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Title: let's all become vegetarians
Post by: Shostakovich on May 24, 2020, 01:18:31 PM
#NoBeef  :doge
Title: Re: let's all become vegetarians
Post by: BIONIC on May 24, 2020, 01:22:55 PM
Eat a dick.
Title: Re: let's all become vegetarians
Post by: Nintex on May 24, 2020, 01:29:26 PM
I thought about becoming a vegetarian just so the other vegetarians I interact with IRL would hate being vegetarians but that lasted about a day
Title: Re: let's all become vegetarians
Post by: BisMarckie on May 24, 2020, 01:54:32 PM
My ex wife was a vegeterian [insert sex joke here], I lived the vegetarian live on and off for  7 years. Don’t think it is for me in the long run though.

I tried to class up your thread with a response instead of acknowledging your little pun. :karen
Title: Re: let's all become vegetarians
Post by: BisMarckie on May 24, 2020, 01:56:55 PM
Suck on my meat stotsy.
Title: Re: let's all become vegetarians
Post by: BisMarckie on May 24, 2020, 02:02:50 PM
I don‘t have beef with little cool young dude sluts.

Why don‘t you change your name again bich?
Title: Re: let's all become vegetarians
Post by: Transhuman on May 24, 2020, 02:08:00 PM
I'm so underweight that excluding foods from my diet might actually kill me.
Title: Re: let's all become vegetarians
Post by: BisMarckie on May 24, 2020, 02:28:23 PM
Truth is, I've always been jealous of you, OttoVonLoggins. I was benji's bottom bitch before you showed up and now I just miss the feeling of his fat rolling over my face as he pounds my ass into the floorboards.

It’s okay, boo. Even you will find your ideological home some day, inshallah.  :blessup
Title: Re: let's all become vegetarians
Post by: BisMarckie on May 24, 2020, 02:31:19 PM
The only post that ever triggered me on the Bore was PD flipping fish in the pan multiple times. :rage
Title: Re: let's all become vegetarians
Post by: Beezy on May 24, 2020, 02:35:41 PM
I'm so underweight that excluding foods from my diet might actually kill me.
...eat more?
Title: Re: let's all become vegetarians
Post by: BisMarckie on May 24, 2020, 02:38:15 PM
Michigan cuisine.

No wonder benji became morbidly obese
Title: Re: let's all become vegetarians
Post by: Transhuman on May 24, 2020, 02:41:21 PM
I'm so underweight that excluding foods from my diet might actually kill me.
...eat more?

What are you a fucking scientist or something?
Title: Re: let's all become vegetarians
Post by: Phoenix Dark on May 24, 2020, 02:46:05 PM
The only post that ever triggered me on the Bore was PD flipping fish in the pan multiple times. :rage

How do you know I'm wrong if you've never done it before, coward.
Title: Re: let's all become vegetarians
Post by: Propagandhim on May 24, 2020, 02:50:13 PM
https://twitter.com/TraderDXB/status/1264526671677358080

 :obama
Title: Re: let's all become vegetarians
Post by: nudemacusers on May 24, 2020, 02:59:06 PM
Quote
You don't have to respond to every dumb post you see.
Mods to never receive responses again :teehee
Title: Re: let's all become vegetarians
Post by: Mr Gilhaney on May 24, 2020, 05:26:11 PM
jordan peterson taught my about hog only diet and as a result my liver is currently curing itself
Title: Re: let's all become vegetarians
Post by: EchoRin on May 24, 2020, 05:31:07 PM
I'm having an Impossible Whopper on Tuesday thanks to T-Mobile Tuesdays. But I have to spend at least 1 dollar so I'll probably buy a second burger that does have meat in it  :-\.
Title: Re: let's all become vegetarians
Post by: Lonewulfeus on May 24, 2020, 06:01:45 PM
Bacon cheeseburger is $1.79 where I live, can’t go wrong with that
Title: Re: let's all become vegetarians
Post by: Tasty on May 24, 2020, 06:41:10 PM
On my plate:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meet_Your_Meat

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earthlings_(film) (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earthlings_(film))

Other historical vegan media (books/films specifically) recommendations would be appreciated! :)

Looking to convert (:teehee) to pescatarianism. I find nearly every kind of sea or freshwater creature absolutely delicious, but that's not really the point since I will always enjoy a good steak more. It's more about the industrial meat industry conditions, the difficulty/potential hypocrisy in only consuming from "cruelty-free" sources, and some bit of research I've done on pain in fish (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pain_in_fish).

I admit I'm seeking to confirm some of my own biases in order to continue enjoying seafood guilt-free, but I also partly feel this is a stepping stone to full vegetarianism/veganism. (Maybe like... 10 years down the line...) I've been following the synthetic meat industry like Beyond Burger and Impossible Burger for a few years almost in prep for this it feels like. Very excited at where it's at and where it's going. :D

That all said I was also raised in a fairly rural area and don't think I'll ever be prepared to drop whole (cow) milk. :heart

(https://i.imgur.com/6i6Idgt.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/xVFD7Nc.jpg)
Title: Re: let's all become vegetarians
Post by: Tasty on May 24, 2020, 06:43:15 PM
Note: probably can't switch diets until I move into my own place, but fine with waiting a bit.
Title: Re: let's all become vegetarians
Post by: Occam on May 24, 2020, 06:52:01 PM
Let's not. I like meat, fish, eggs.
I am omnivorous, just as my genes intended.

If there was actual lab grown meat (consisting of real cells) I'd have no problem switching, but until then I'll keep eating the real thing.
There is no substitute for sushi/sashimi, chicken, bacon and the occasional steak.
Title: Re: let's all become vegetarians
Post by: EchoRin on May 24, 2020, 06:54:35 PM
Let's not. I like meat, fish, eggs.
I am omnivorous, just as my genes intended.

If there was actual lab grown meat (consisting of real cells) I'd have no problem switching, but until then I'll keep eating the real thing.
There is no substitute for sushi/sashimi, chicken, bacon and the occasional steak.

 :drool :itagaki
Title: Re: let's all become vegetarians
Post by: Beezy on May 24, 2020, 06:57:30 PM
Tasty, industrial fish conditions aren't great either and its not always easy to confirm if your seafood was fresh caught.
Title: Re: let's all become vegetarians
Post by: Tasty on May 24, 2020, 07:00:14 PM

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earthlings_(film) (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earthlings_(film))

Other historical vegan media (books/films specifically) recommendations would be appreciated! :)


Earthlings is intense lol, interested to see what your reaction to that. As far as historical media, Howard Lyman's Mad Cowboy is a great read.


:rejoice
Title: Re: let's all become vegetarians
Post by: Occam on May 24, 2020, 07:03:25 PM
Yes, it's the same old problem. There are too many people on this planet. If we go back to maybe a billion, none of this would matter.
Title: Re: let's all become vegetarians
Post by: Tasty on May 24, 2020, 07:05:48 PM
Tasty, industrial fish conditions aren't great either and its not always easy to confirm if your seafood was fresh caught.

I know, it's "halfway step" for now. :doge But I think anything in that direction is progress, and right now I just feel more kinship with my mammalian and avian relatives that makes it increasingly difficult to justify eating them.
Title: Re: let's all become vegetarians
Post by: Occam on May 24, 2020, 07:06:06 PM
Yes, it's the same old problem. There are too many people on this planet. If we go back to maybe a billion, none of this would matter.
https://youtu.be/GM-e46xdcUo

You keep telling that to yourself.
Title: Re: let's all become vegetarians
Post by: Tasty on May 24, 2020, 07:07:27 PM
Deep sea trawling has also completely destroyed the ocean and every ecosystem is in collapse in part because of unsustainable seafood consumption

Freshwater only then? :idont
Title: Re: let's all become vegetarians
Post by: naff on May 24, 2020, 07:12:35 PM
reminds me i've never eaten suckling pig and im meant to make a reservation at a chinese place that serves them roasted whole with heaps of pancakes and sides to eat it with for a friends bday. you must eat the whole hog  :rash
Title: Re: let's all become vegetarians
Post by: thisismyusername on May 24, 2020, 07:20:12 PM
you must eat the whole hog  :rash

Newsfeed.

@Andy: Don't do this half-step shit. If you're going to get off meat (:teehee ) go whole hog (:teehee :teehee ) on it.

Honestly the problem for me is that I like Sushi and while I can make "vegan" Sushi (cutting fish out, using other ingredients) it's not the same. Plus Beyond Meats is stupid pricey (compared "normal" meat) right now, so it's hard to justify economically going Vegan. Though I know a few Vegan folks (Esch included in this loosely) that make some bomb-ass meals. I'm still angry that like the first Vegan restaurant in the area got killed by change in ownership as they had this bomb Pho that was better than the "normal" one IMO. Big serving that would keep you full for like the entire day. So good. I miss it daily. :(
Title: Re: let's all become vegetarians
Post by: Tasty on May 24, 2020, 07:23:32 PM
I'll never let someone else dictate how much hog I should be inhaling :bolo

Never again :bolo
Title: Re: let's all become vegetarians
Post by: Occam on May 24, 2020, 07:24:56 PM
You keep telling that to yourself.
It doesn't matter if it's a billion or ten billion, if you don't respect the land you live on or the water you drink from you'll always run into problems. Without countervailing institutions and science informed discipline, human resource consumption is completely unbounded and you'll just run into the same problem, just at some later limit.

Having more people is always better for society anyway because most sectors have economies of scale. Having less people wouldn't decrease the burden of society, it would lower the standard of living for everyone else. To prove this to yourself, imagine a society with 10,000 people. Is that enough to support the diversity of modern civilization and all of its industries, even if only for those ten thousand?
I know, that's why I said a billion.
While there are 8 billion of us, nothing we do is sustainable.
Title: Re: let's all become vegetarians
Post by: Occam on May 24, 2020, 07:29:24 PM
Broaden your horizon a little, kid.
Maybe you'll eventually get it, maybe you won't. I don't care.
Title: Re: let's all become vegetarians
Post by: OnlyRegret on May 24, 2020, 07:31:12 PM
Yes, it's the same old problem. There are too many people on this planet. If we go back to maybe a billion, none of this would matter.

americans stuff their fat faces, better kill africa basically
Title: Re: let's all become vegetarians
Post by: Tasty on May 24, 2020, 07:33:36 PM
stost join me in ignoring occam :klob
Title: Re: let's all become vegetarians
Post by: thisismyusername on May 24, 2020, 07:34:22 PM
While there are 8 billion of us, nothing we do is sustainable.

I dunno if I buy that. There's tech in the works for sustainable agriculture and the like.

I do feel the population boom is a problem (and why I'm on Team #GREATNEWSEVERYONE about the US birth-rate falling) but I don't think it's insurmountable. The issue is that humanities adaption comes at the expense of everyone elses. We might be able to "un-acidify" the water, but at the expense of fish that adapted or thrive in it.
Title: Re: let's all become vegetarians
Post by: OnlyRegret on May 24, 2020, 07:36:08 PM
Yeah, the oceans are going to be bare soon, we won't adapt in time. Sucks but pointing it out is the first step to helping people turn the corner on ocean agriculture
yeah but how do you reverse algae apocalypse and deadzones? Is the science there? Do they just revert back when we fix the runoff?

Probably, the planet started a desolate, volcanic blob. It'd bounce back, probably. 10,000 years, +/- a few millions. After the end of Man of course.
Title: Re: let's all become vegetarians
Post by: Occam on May 24, 2020, 07:50:19 PM
I would actually turn most of the planet into nature reserves that are off limits to humans.
Let's say, 150 million people per continent in pre-defined areas.
Title: Re: let's all become vegetarians
Post by: OnlyRegret on May 24, 2020, 07:50:48 PM
stost join me in ignoring occam :klob

You're missing out.

You dense motherfucker :rage

Silly Shota, didn't you accept the Georgia Guidestones as your world view yet?
Title: Re: let's all become vegetarians
Post by: thisismyusername on May 24, 2020, 08:00:47 PM
I would actually turn most of the planet into nature reserves that are off limits to humans.
Let's say, 150 million people per continent in pre-defined areas.

(https://i.imgur.com/VfqcTOj.gif)

Let's make the Sprawl, bb.
Title: Re: let's all become vegetarians
Post by: Great Rumbler on May 24, 2020, 08:04:39 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3Z9cjKkqn4
Title: Re: let's all become vegetarians
Post by: EchoRin on May 24, 2020, 08:14:22 PM
150 million per continent? Ok, but as a weeb I demand Japan does not have to concede anyone. So that leaves about 25 million for the rest of Asia.

One stipulation. Japan will kill anyone who eats shark fin soup or provides it.

 :expert
Title: Re: let's all become vegetarians
Post by: Oblivion on May 24, 2020, 08:19:42 PM
after a lifetime of eating garbage, i finally decided to cut out all the processed and fast food from my diet and go vegetarian. my timing was quite terrible as i was able to do so for a grand total of a whole month before the pandemic hit. but hey, i tried :yeshrug:
Title: Re: let's all become vegetarians
Post by: Occam on May 24, 2020, 08:29:15 PM
We now have 8 billion people. Who all want good food, a big house, personal transportation, travel, smartphones and so on. And last but not least they want kids, too (which they claim is a "human right").
You can either keep telling yourself that this is fine and can go on forever, because science will magic the shit out of everything (or the flying spaghetti monster or space aliens will save us from ourselves), or you can realize that it is not sustainable.

See, you say 1 billion cows are a problem for the planet because they eat so much and produce so much methane, and the cow population should be reduced. But you have no problem with 8 billion humans?
Title: Re: let's all become vegetarians
Post by: EchoRin on May 24, 2020, 08:35:37 PM
Eh I wouldn't mind if 2 billion people that I decided should die would die, but that's too much power.

I mean really big families in first world countries are tough for me to understand cause I feel as a parent I wouldn't be able to give enough attention or love (or finances lol) to any more than 3. But that's a whole different topic I guess.
Title: Re: let's all become vegetarians
Post by: Phoenix Dark on May 24, 2020, 08:43:49 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JYgmpW6e9Ek
Title: Re: let's all become vegetarians
Post by: OnlyRegret on May 24, 2020, 11:14:28 PM
So Occam, where would you cull 7 billion people from?
Title: Re: let's all become vegetarians
Post by: naff on May 24, 2020, 11:21:46 PM
And last but not least they want kids, too (which they claim is a "human right").

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sub-replacement_fertility



Title: Re: let's all become vegetarians
Post by: naff on May 24, 2020, 11:25:26 PM
I mean really big families in first world countries are tough for me to understand

yeah, like, generally this is the case. so much so where we absolutely have to have immigration to make up for the fact that the west is not growing to keep a stable/slightly growing pop. this leads to all that stuff like racist freaks harping on about the "great replacement" like people of pure anglo descent slowly dying off is a bad thing.
Title: Re: let's all become vegetarians
Post by: naff on May 24, 2020, 11:38:48 PM
i'll be fully into the future sustainable fuck food made from dairy like caseins produced in giants fermentation vats, easy to grow low water legumes that fill the plains and tru-meat™ being something riotous tries to low key brag about buying once a week still for him and his harem of precariat sloots.

in the meantime, while people continue to live it up on the fumes of our current system, im going to keep enjoying things in relative moderation and keep travelling occasionally when i can.
Title: Re: let's all become vegetarians
Post by: Great Rumbler on May 24, 2020, 11:39:36 PM
So Occam, where would you cull 7 billion people from?

Getting rid of all the Disney stans would take a pretty big dent outta that number.
Title: Re: let's all become vegetarians
Post by: Coax on May 25, 2020, 12:37:11 AM
See, you say 1 billion cows are a problem for the planet because they eat so much and produce so much methane, and the cow population should be reduced. But you have no problem with 8 billion humans?

Do 8 billion humans fart as much as 1 billion cows?

Researchers have found that adding less than 2% of a certain kind of seaweed to diets cuts methane emissions from cows by 99%. I know there are various US companies working to produce the seaweed.

Other benefits include 'improved milk production, increased immunity, improved food conversion ratio' from one such company working on growing it.
Title: Re: let's all become vegetarians
Post by: Transhuman on May 25, 2020, 12:53:59 AM
Do we really want to risk turning strong American cows into sushi-loving weebs?
Title: Re: let's all become vegetarians
Post by: EchoRin on May 25, 2020, 01:34:33 AM
I would pay 2x the price I pay for milk if someone starts a brand called Kawaii Milk.
Title: Re: let's all become vegetarians
Post by: BIONIC on May 25, 2020, 08:09:03 AM
edit: fuck this, I'm not going to argue with Occam :lol

cool young dude slut DESTROYED by facts and logic  :bedroomeyes
Title: Re: let's all become vegetarians
Post by: nudemacusers on May 25, 2020, 08:21:58 AM
So Occam, where would you cull 7 billion people from?
People with a music library 20% composed of videogame soundtracks
Title: Re: let's all become vegetarians
Post by: Mr Gilhaney on May 25, 2020, 10:18:02 AM
Was reading up on some German culture (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armin_Meiwes) today while bored at work.


Quote
Meiwes then ran Brandes a bath, before going to read a Star Trek book, while checking back on Brandes every fifteen minutes, during which time Brandes lay bleeding in the bath.

Quote
While in prison, Meiwes has since become a vegetarian.



Just say no.
Title: Re: let's all become vegetarians
Post by: Tasty on May 25, 2020, 11:03:15 AM
cool young dude slut DESTROYED

:gladbron

by facts and logic

:social2
Title: Re: let's all become vegetarians
Post by: naff on May 25, 2020, 11:25:55 AM
Do we really want to risk turning strong American cows into sushi-loving weebs?

https://youtu.be/mXnJqYwebF8
Title: Re: let's all become vegetarians
Post by: CatsCatsCats on May 25, 2020, 11:32:03 AM
Doja Cat is too much for this world, I wasn’t prepared to have a celeb crush at 32
Title: Re: let's all become vegetarians
Post by: Positive Touch on May 25, 2020, 11:34:36 AM
doja cat is a channer, the lowest form of all life
Title: Re: let's all become vegetarians
Post by: naff on May 25, 2020, 11:39:02 AM
ah yes, doja cat must nt troll online or have weird kinks because she must maintain a veneer of black excellence at all times says white dude frm bumfuck nowhere 'murca that jerks off 4 times a day
Title: Re: let's all become vegetarians
Post by: CatsCatsCats on May 25, 2020, 11:42:33 AM
Y’all mad, I just wanna like take her on a date
Title: Re: let's all become vegetarians
Post by: Positive Touch on May 25, 2020, 11:51:09 AM
ah yes, doja cat must nt troll online or have weird kinks because she must maintain a veneer of black excellence at all times says white dude frm bumfuck nowhere 'murca that jerks off 4 times a day

lol wat


waifu is lifu, huh
Title: Re: let's all become vegetarians
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on May 25, 2020, 11:59:07 AM
Maybe just stop eating insane portions of meat. And stop eating factory meat.

You really don't need more then 100/100grams a day (one or two regular mcd patties) or meat every day, for every meal.
Title: Re: let's all become vegetarians
Post by: naff on May 25, 2020, 12:03:00 PM
waifu is lifu, huh

nah, that's Caroline. but imo, people with no right are being very quick to judge
Title: Re: let's all become vegetarians
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on May 25, 2020, 12:35:25 PM
Who has no right to judge
Title: Re: let's all become vegetarians
Post by: Mr Gilhaney on May 25, 2020, 12:37:38 PM
Maybe just stop eating insane portions of meat. And stop eating factory meat.

You really don't need more then 100/100grams a day (one or two regular mcd patties) or meat every day, for every meal.

If I based what I eat on what I need, I wouldn't be fat would I.
Title: Re: let's all become vegetarians
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on May 25, 2020, 12:45:06 PM
Did you comfort eat after that OB goal?
Title: Re: let's all become vegetarians
Post by: CatsCatsCats on May 25, 2020, 12:46:29 PM
I comfort eat to survive
Title: Re: let's all become vegetarians
Post by: Mr Gilhaney on May 25, 2020, 12:47:52 PM
Did you comfort eat after that OB goal?

No I giffed it and took it on twitter, where fucking Jakob Ellemann Jensen commented on it. After that, I comfort ate
Title: Re: let's all become vegetarians
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on May 25, 2020, 12:49:26 PM
Venstre :-X

Bet he is a fckboi

Title: Re: let's all become vegetarians
Post by: nudemacusers on May 25, 2020, 01:13:43 PM
cool young dude slut DESTROYED

:gladbron

by facts and logic

:social2
Facts and Logic are the stage names for these two tho :drool

(https://s.abcnews.com/images/International/brothers-empire-ht-jpo-190216_hpEmbed_15x16_992.jpg)
Title: Re: let's all become vegetarians
Post by: Tasty on May 25, 2020, 01:36:11 PM
PD: "Check please!"