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Title: Which is the superior Robocop theme?
Post by: headwalk on May 30, 2020, 05:42:51 PM
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the movie features basil poledouris iconic theme, which represents all the near future corpora-fascist pomp and rigour that verhoevan so joyously lampoons for the runtime:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kb1_38445vA

the c64 game takes an entirely different approach, representing the methadone like fugue state that murphy enters as he becomes consumed by the machine and embarks on an slow gradual divorce from the fabric of analog reality:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFgXGw_kXpc&feature=emb_title

together they are a beautiful diptych.

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Title: Re: Which is the superior Robocop theme?
Post by: bork on May 30, 2020, 05:46:52 PM
https://twitter.com/Th3_Ajaxx/status/1264629341427826695
Title: Re: Which is the superior Robocop theme?
Post by: GreatSageEqualOfHeaven on May 30, 2020, 06:01:20 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rhZBDNQ3gas

slower tempo, more melancholy :delicious
Title: Re: Which is the superior Robocop theme?
Post by: Great Rumbler on May 30, 2020, 06:46:58 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-e3LziX4CU
Title: Re: Which is the superior Robocop theme?
Post by: VomKriege on May 31, 2020, 03:26:28 AM
Why so sad ?

https://youtu.be/S_WTIzscD5Q
Title: Re: Which is the superior Robocop theme?
Post by: chronovore on June 14, 2020, 09:31:54 PM
I had either forgotten or never known there was a tv show.  :o
Title: Re: Which is the superior Robocop theme?
Post by: bork on June 14, 2020, 09:48:32 PM
I had either forgotten or never known there was a tv show.  :o

Same.  Don't remember this at all.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5RO7ZaZdsU
Title: Re: Which is the superior Robocop theme?
Post by: VomKriege on June 15, 2020, 06:04:23 AM
You're not missing anything not knowing the TV show. If you thought the third film was watered down... The OCP CEO is borderline nice whimsical grandpa in this.
Title: Re: Which is the superior Robocop theme?
Post by: SmokyDave on June 15, 2020, 09:58:59 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1d8FFt37wSI

I mean, it's that one. That one there.
Title: Re: Which is the superior Robocop theme?
Post by: Tasty on June 15, 2020, 10:24:47 AM
OK, but which is the superior X-Men theme?
Title: Re: Which is the superior Robocop theme?
Post by: Great Rumbler on June 15, 2020, 01:02:55 PM
OK, but which is the superior X-Men theme?

Any answer other than the theme from the 90s cartoon is wrong.
Title: Re: Which is the superior Robocop theme?
Post by: CatsCatsCats on June 15, 2020, 01:04:51 PM
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=McDjaLgrrRg

This thread without this song is half baked
Title: Re: Which is the superior Robocop theme?
Post by: Joe Molotov on June 15, 2020, 01:09:59 PM
OK, but which is the superior X-Men theme?

The one with the Japanese anime opening.
Title: Re: Which is the superior Robocop theme?
Post by: HardcoreRetro on June 15, 2020, 01:26:29 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9UyTLn_M2FA
Title: Re: Which is the superior Robocop theme?
Post by: headwalk on June 15, 2020, 02:13:55 PM
OK, but which is the superior X-Men theme?

Any answer other than the theme from the 90s cartoon is wrong.

nice hummable tune for sure, but it doesn't slap your shit like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QIib0aUojbs
Title: Re: Which is the superior Robocop theme?
Post by: bork on June 15, 2020, 02:38:22 PM
WRONG

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ZDSkkQNrNc
Title: Re: Which is the superior Robocop theme?
Post by: TEEEPO on June 15, 2020, 03:44:22 PM
what is this garbage bork
Title: Re: Which is the superior Robocop theme?
Post by: recursivelyenumerable on June 15, 2020, 03:46:13 PM

the movie features basil poledouris iconic theme, which represents all the near future corpora-fascist pomp and rigour that verhoevan so joyously lampoons for the runtime:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kb1_38445vA

i haven't heard this before or seen the movie, but this honestly comes off as kind of a parody to me, because, like ... where is the actual theme? it seems to be presenting all the orchestral trappings and big epic statement of the chord progression you'd expect to accompany a hero melody, but the melody never shows up.

in spite of this I still unironically enjoyed it mainly because parts of the orchestral arrangement reminded me of chrono trigger
Title: Re: Which is the superior Robocop theme?
Post by: thisismyusername on June 15, 2020, 03:48:09 PM
I had either forgotten or never known there was a tv show.  :o

Same.  Don't remember this at all.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5RO7ZaZdsU

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RoboCop_(1994_TV_series)

"Made to appeal primarily to children and young teenagers, it lacks the graphic violence that was the hallmark of RoboCop (1987) and its sequel RoboCop 2 (1990)."

:mike
Title: Re: Which is the superior Robocop theme?
Post by: Great Rumbler on June 15, 2020, 04:41:08 PM
So, it was basically a live-action version of the Robocop cartoon.
Title: Re: Which is the superior Robocop theme?
Post by: Joe Molotov on June 15, 2020, 04:52:07 PM

the movie features basil poledouris iconic theme, which represents all the near future corpora-fascist pomp and rigour that verhoevan so joyously lampoons for the runtime:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kb1_38445vA

i haven't heard this before or seen the movie, but this honestly comes off as kind of a parody to me, because, like ... where is the actual theme? it seems to be presenting all the orchestral trappings and big epic statement of the chord progression you'd expect to accompany a hero melody, but the melody never shows up.

in spite of this I still unironically enjoyed it mainly because parts of the orchestral arrangement reminded me of chrono trigger

Here you go:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MwKggVeuhLo
Title: Re: Which is the superior Robocop theme?
Post by: VomKriege on June 15, 2020, 05:12:49 PM
So, it was basically a live-action version of the Robocop cartoon.

Yeah, though that was also the time we got a lot of low budget TV shows based on some big action / SF movies names (Nikita, Total Recall, Stargate, Buffy, Dead Zone). Nikita and RoboCop are Canadian productions officially too. Twin Peaks and X-Files pushed the envelope for production value. It was the golden years of shooting up there, I guess everyone took a shot in hopes of getting big somehow like Stargate and Buffy did.

Reading the synopsis of the episodes (I've seen some but I couldn't tell you much from memory), some of the original bite was still there at the writing level -just like RoboCop 3 premise doesn't read too bad- but it's just way too cheap and soft to really carry it.

Also this :

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When his sexist views anger feminists, The OCP Chairman is kidnapped by a band of shapely rebels and forced to do housework, while Chip Chayken and his sexy partner plan to rip-off OCP.
Title: Re: Which is the superior Robocop theme?
Post by: Steve Contra on June 15, 2020, 07:57:21 PM
The second live action Robocop tv show Robocop: Prime Directives is more violent and way more low budget than the Canadian one. It’s worth watching for a holy shit how did this get made vibe.
Title: Re: Which is the superior Robocop theme?
Post by: Joe Molotov on June 15, 2020, 08:19:11 PM
Prime Directives is the Canadian one

I think they were all Canadian.
Title: Re: Which is the superior Robocop theme?
Post by: bork on June 15, 2020, 08:31:45 PM
what is this garbage bork

The Konami X-Men arcade game
:rejoice
Title: Re: Which is the superior Robocop theme?
Post by: Steve Contra on June 15, 2020, 09:01:25 PM
Prime Directives is the Canadian one

I think they were all Canadian.
yeah looks like this is right. Why did Canada make even one Robocop show?
Title: Re: Which is the superior Robocop theme?
Post by: recursivelyenumerable on June 15, 2020, 09:53:36 PM

the movie features basil poledouris iconic theme, which represents all the near future corpora-fascist pomp and rigour that verhoevan so joyously lampoons for the runtime:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kb1_38445vA

i haven't heard this before or seen the movie, but this honestly comes off as kind of a parody to me, because, like ... where is the actual theme? it seems to be presenting all the orchestral trappings and big epic statement of the chord progression you'd expect to accompany a hero melody, but the melody never shows up.

in spite of this I still unironically enjoyed it mainly because parts of the orchestral arrangement reminded me of chrono trigger

Here you go:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MwKggVeuhLo

lol, but in context that section felt more like a B-melody or transitional supporting variation. so it still felt like the main theme was MIA ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Title: Re: Which is the superior Robocop theme?
Post by: chronovore on June 16, 2020, 12:32:58 AM
Apparently there were two animated series as well. Wow!
Title: Re: Which is the superior Robocop theme?
Post by: VomKriege on June 16, 2020, 01:23:41 AM
Prime Directives is the Canadian one

I think they were all Canadian.
yeah looks like this is right. Why did Canada make even one Robocop show?

Not to belittle Le Canada but I'd imagine there's some financial tap dancing involved.
Title: Re: Which is the superior Robocop theme?
Post by: Don Rumata on June 16, 2020, 02:19:12 AM

the movie features basil poledouris iconic theme, which represents all the near future corpora-fascist pomp and rigour that verhoevan so joyously lampoons for the runtime:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kb1_38445vA

i haven't heard this before or seen the movie, but this honestly comes off as kind of a parody to me, because, like ... where is the actual theme? it seems to be presenting all the orchestral trappings and big epic statement of the chord progression you'd expect to accompany a hero melody, but the melody never shows up.

in spite of this I still unironically enjoyed it mainly because parts of the orchestral arrangement reminded me of chrono trigger

Here you go:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MwKggVeuhLo

lol, but in context that section felt more like a B-melody or transitional supporting variation. so it still felt like the main theme was MIA ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
That is the part i whistled as a kid, so it's clearly the main melody. :ufup

Anyway, Poledouris is the best at cheesy epic music.
I mean his score for Conan is just on another level.
Title: Re: Which is the superior Robocop theme?
Post by: recursivelyenumerable on June 16, 2020, 03:14:42 AM
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That is the part i whistled as a kid, so it's clearly the main melody. :ufup

well it's the only actual melodic part! but it feels like it SHOULD be supporting another main melody, one that's having some wardrobe issues or something and didn't make it on stage.
Title: Re: Which is the superior Robocop theme?
Post by: VomKriege on June 16, 2020, 06:23:26 PM
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That is the part i whistled as a kid, so it's clearly the main melody. :ufup

well it's the only actual melodic part! but it feels like it SHOULD be supporting another main melody, one that's having some wardrobe issues or something and didn't make it on stage.

Not to get all fanwank but it's not a very heroic world, or even character in a sense, he's only half of a man and he's never really free from his programming or corporate masters though not soulless

I mean it's just random musings but Poledouris also scored Starship Troopers and that one is even more overtly playing on being fascist and militaristic propaganda pastiche as a companion piece of a movie about individuals getting ground into replaceable jarheads. And while it's not a very precise description, the most famous part of that soundtrack (Klendathu drop) also is strong without having a strong theme.