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General => Video Game Bored => Topic started by: Nintex on August 11, 2020, 03:10:23 PM

Title: Microsoft capitulates! Armistice signed at noon
Post by: Nintex on August 11, 2020, 03:10:23 PM
Microsoft has delayed HALO Infinite

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EfKVapCU8AAb79n?format=jpg)

The biggest and most powerful console in history will now launch this holiday season with exciting games such as

 :idont
Title: Re: Microsoft capitulates! Armistice signed at noon
Post by: Don Rumata on August 11, 2020, 03:18:49 PM
Another next gen launch, another amazing launch line up.  ::)
So far we got... a Spiderman expansion and? Unless that's also cross gen?

Although it's clearly the best choice, given the state of the game.
Title: Re: Microsoft capitulates! Armistice signed at noon
Post by: Svejk on August 11, 2020, 03:27:22 PM
Craig needs to be more HD-a-fied.

(https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/001/876/178/62e.png)
Title: Re: Microsoft capitulates! Armistice signed at noon
Post by: thisismyusername on August 11, 2020, 03:28:12 PM
Craig going under the knife to become more Brutish: You truly #HateToSeeIt
Title: Re: Microsoft capitulates! Armistice signed at noon
Post by: Nintex on August 11, 2020, 03:29:11 PM
Another next gen launch, another amazing launch line up.  ::)
So far we got... a Spiderman expansion and? Unless that's also cross gen?

Although it's clearly the best choice, given the state of the game.
They should just not bother with their launch this year. They don't even have a new Forza as a graphics showcase, something they managed to do for the Xbox One X.

Microsoft pulled in all these extra teams like The Coalition to help get HALO Infinite out the door and they can't salvage it. So now not only will HALO miss launch their other games will suffer delays as well.
They bought 8 Studios starting 6 years ago with Mojang and they can't even get a single next-gen launch game out the door.  :lol
Title: Re: Microsoft capitulates! Armistice signed at noon
Post by: james on August 11, 2020, 03:40:02 PM
If Nintendo launches BOTW 2 in November it's over. Both Sony and Microsoft will be forced to exit the market in shame. Better luck making mp3 players guys lol
Title: Re: Microsoft capitulates! Armistice signed at noon
Post by: Raist on August 11, 2020, 03:42:36 PM
This has been in development hell for ages but sure, let's blame COVID :lol
Title: Re: Microsoft capitulates! Armistice signed at noon
Post by: thisismyusername on August 11, 2020, 03:43:34 PM
Honestly, they should just release it: bugs and all. It's not like 343 can dig any lower after how piss-poor the MCC has been. :doge
Title: Re: Microsoft capitulates! Armistice signed at noon
Post by: thisismyusername on August 11, 2020, 03:45:48 PM
Is audio still fundamentally broken on PC?  lol

They apparently fixed that six months later for Reach. Though Halo 3's shit hit-register is so hilariously bad that it's really killing the PC community again. :doge
Title: Re: Microsoft capitulates! Armistice signed at noon
Post by: james on August 11, 2020, 03:48:32 PM
Who the fuck is 343 what happened to Bungie
Title: Re: Microsoft capitulates! Armistice signed at noon
Post by: Pissy F Benny on August 11, 2020, 03:51:02 PM
is it a nintex thread without a :shaking riotous post :thinking
Title: Re: Microsoft capitulates! Armistice signed at noon
Post by: Don Rumata on August 11, 2020, 03:56:11 PM
Look, I would love a fucking awesome Halo game. If it takes them delaying it to 2021 to deliver that, good.
It'd probably take them delaying to 2025. :thinking
EDIT: I typed "2025" like some comically far away future date, but realized it's only in 5 years.  :stahp
Title: Re: Microsoft capitulates! Armistice signed at noon
Post by: Pissy F Benny on August 11, 2020, 03:59:25 PM
Imagine what a complete turd it must be for MS to let them delay past the release :doge

Deeper problems than it looking like a 360 game for sure :doge :doge :doge
Title: Re: Microsoft capitulates! Armistice signed at noon
Post by: thisismyusername on August 11, 2020, 04:06:01 PM
Satella not putting his foot in Spencer's ass, that's what.
Title: Re: Microsoft capitulates! Armistice signed at noon
Post by: BisMarckie on August 11, 2020, 04:17:45 PM
You mean Nadella?

Microsoft probably cares as much about Halo Infinite as they do about what's for lunch in the cafeteria.  :doge
Title: Re: Microsoft capitulates! Armistice signed at noon
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on August 11, 2020, 04:21:35 PM
Lol MS first party is straight up trash tier

Except gears and forza ofc

Title: Re: Microsoft capitulates! Armistice signed at noon
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on August 11, 2020, 04:24:33 PM
What

5 is the best Gears since 1

Fight me
Title: Re: Microsoft capitulates! Armistice signed at noon
Post by: thisismyusername on August 11, 2020, 04:25:57 PM
I actually liked 5. But it was very "by the numbers."

The major problem for MS is that they only have 3 (well 4 but one of which is part of another) IP's: Halo, Gears, and Forza (Horizon). Their other stuff like Fusion Frenzy or Wacked! (lol at that last one) never get sequels or get an announcement of one and gets cancelled (Phantom Dust).
Title: Re: Microsoft capitulates! Armistice signed at noon
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on August 11, 2020, 04:29:31 PM
Sorry you have bad taste man

And yes people will buy the series x

Why?

-gamepass
-best looking 3rd party games

Aint nobody waitng for Halo in 2020
Title: Re: Microsoft capitulates! Armistice signed at noon
Post by: james on August 11, 2020, 04:32:24 PM
Imagine thinking the people behind PowerPoint and Access could make a fun game

 :crowdlaff
Title: Re: Microsoft capitulates! Armistice signed at noon
Post by: Lonewulfeus on August 11, 2020, 04:33:32 PM
Satella not putting his foot in Spencer's ass, that's what.

Careful! You'll get labeled a console warrior!

:umad
Title: Re: Microsoft capitulates! Armistice signed at noon
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on August 11, 2020, 04:34:35 PM
Sorry you have bad taste man

And yes people will buy the series x

Why?

-gamepass
-best looking 3rd party games

Aint nobody waitng for Halo in 2020

(https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/043/243/419.gif)

I can take advantage of gamepass just fine on my xbox one.

Me too and I wont upgrade for a while

I dont even have a 4k telly
Title: Re: Microsoft capitulates! Armistice signed at noon
Post by: Don Rumata on August 11, 2020, 04:44:56 PM
Imagine if in 5 years they can get Gamepass on Playstation or Switch.  :lol
Title: Re: Microsoft capitulates! Armistice signed at noon
Post by: Raist on August 11, 2020, 04:49:13 PM
Satella not putting his foot in Spencer's ass, that's what.

Spencer's been saying "we're heavily investing in 1st party" for like what, 6 years now?
They ended up buying a bunch of C-tier studios last year, that they'll no doubt run into the ground. It's quite amazing.
Title: Re: Microsoft capitulates! Armistice signed at noon
Post by: james on August 11, 2020, 04:50:20 PM
Imagine thinking the people behind PowerPoint and Access could make a fun game

 :crowdlaff

They did... over a decade ago. It was called Viva Pinata.

I'll allow Skifree
Title: Re: Microsoft capitulates! Armistice signed at noon
Post by: brawndolicious on August 11, 2020, 04:53:36 PM
To be honest, I'm happy about this. It was clear that they didn't have a chance to make it a truly next-gen upgrade by launch but it was the first Halo in a long while that seems to nail the gameplay, art, and world-building. Hopefully it revives the MP community as Halo was one of the most competitive yet not-super-toxic MP communities I've ever seen. Those clans would ban teabaggers in the game that invented it.

I half suspect 5 years from now MS will be selling / killing off Xbox personally.

But they don't need current Xbox owners to upgrade.. so you have to think about people currently outside the ecosystem to see their plan for success.  Granted not having Halo Infinite to sell them sucks, but a lot of these people never played the latest Gears/Forza/whatever, and want a cheap way to check out 3rd party games on Gamepass too.

I don't see them killing off xbox unless the whole world converts to playing on an Azure server, which would be ridiculous. And this surprised the hell out of me but the only semi-exclusive game that I can see being a system seller is Roblox. That game/platform is HUGE with young gamers and for some reason Sony won't open up their cross-play policy to allow it on their system.

There's no other game I can think of that is that popular and provides enough content to be the primary reason somebody buys new hardware. But of course it has potato graphics so you don't need to run it on a next-gen console.
Title: Re: Microsoft capitulates! Armistice signed at noon
Post by: thisismyusername on August 11, 2020, 04:54:05 PM
Satella not putting his foot in Spencer's ass, that's what.

Spencer's been saying "we're heavily investing in 1st party" for like what, 6 years now?
They ended up buying a bunch of C-tier studios last year, that they'll no doubt run into the ground. It's quite amazing.

Exactly. Spencer is dicking around. He dicked around with Phantom Dust fans (*cough cough*) by announcing a CGI trailer, never materialized because of executive meddling (probably for the best from what I've read) and then threw a bone to series fans by re-releasing it on X-box and PC (though on PC as a UWP/Windows 10 exclusive. *SIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIGH*).

Spencer is better than whateverhisnameisthatworksatZynga/last guy, but he's been pretty poor in terms of actual "interest" in the X-box.

They need to get J. Allard, Seamus Blackley, etc. back and doing weird-shit like the early-00's X-box was doing.

I actually liked 5. But it was very "by the numbers."

The major problem for MS is that they only have 3 (well 4 but one of which is part of another) IP's: Halo, Gears, and Forza (Horizon). Their other stuff like Fusion Frenzy or Wacked! (lol at that last one) never get sequels or get an announcement of one and gets cancelled (Phantom Dust).

Sony isn't swimming in IP either. Unsharted, God of Bore, Last of Puss, Ratchet? What else? Spoider-Man?

I can't decide which 1st party I hate more, honestly.

Thing is: Sony's IP's generally aren't coming out bi-yearly like X-box's was. Halo, Forza, and Gears were announced in a rotation during the 360 era. The next X-box's fuck-ups were what caused that to delay.

Uncharted is now buried (more than likely) since 4 was supposed to be the last one and Henning left/etc.

God of War got rebooted, so it's not the same as the past 6 titles [which Halo attempted and failed at].

Last of Us only has had 2 titles a generation apart.

Ratchet is one that was on a cycle like X-box (nearly) but then Insomniac started to branch out, and now they have to do Ratchet [possibly] in addition to Spider-man because Sunset Overdrive and Fuse both bombed.
Title: Re: Microsoft capitulates! Armistice signed at noon
Post by: Rufus on August 11, 2020, 04:54:14 PM
How the fuck is Psychonauts 2 not out yet?
Tim Schafer.
Title: Re: Microsoft capitulates! Armistice signed at noon
Post by: Tuckers Law on August 11, 2020, 05:00:28 PM
Rumbler’s monthly release thread traditions must continue into the new generation!
Title: Re: Microsoft capitulates! Armistice signed at noon
Post by: Pissy F Benny on August 11, 2020, 05:35:13 PM
Worst thing that happened Sony from a creativity stand point was uncharted getting hot imo, especially as someone who’d later come to realise I’d had enough of it halfway through 3.

Uncharted 4 is one of my most hated games of all time, I finished it out of pure spite :killme
Title: Re: Microsoft capitulates! Armistice signed at noon
Post by: nudemacusers on August 11, 2020, 05:36:08 PM
well yeah that demo looked rough as fukk. you really can't talk about your powerful machine and show off your banner IP as a cross-plat pop-in fest w/o raytracing and expect a warm welcome.

oh well i don't really care about halo tbh gimme that obsidian shit.

edit: and yeah they're still paying for their identity crisis a few years ago.
Title: Re: Microsoft capitulates! Armistice signed at noon
Post by: BisMarckie on August 11, 2020, 05:39:49 PM
Weird Sony was the best with titles like Tokyo Jungle. Now it's all sad dad walking sims :walkaway

Does really anyone care about Halo in 2020, after every non Bungie game was a major disappointment?

Love me some Forza and Forza Horizon though, especially since Polyphony can't release one full fledged GT in an entire console cycle and Driveclub, which I liked, bombed and was immediately buried as an IP.
Title: Re: Microsoft capitulates! Armistice signed at noon
Post by: Pissy F Benny on August 11, 2020, 05:41:28 PM
It’s crazy there’s no forza 8 for series x release, wtf have turn 10 being doing for the last 3-4 years :lol :yeshrug
Title: Re: Microsoft capitulates! Armistice signed at noon
Post by: thisismyusername on August 11, 2020, 05:41:46 PM
Does really anyone care about Halo in 2020, after every non Bungie game was a major disappointment?

*ahem* Halo Wars 1.
Title: Re: Microsoft capitulates! Armistice signed at noon
Post by: james on August 11, 2020, 05:57:42 PM
I think i'm just really done with games that have such a heavy focus on narrative. Its usually pretty awful and aggravating.

Just... more Viva Pinata. PLEASE.

I think the last game I played with a heavy focus on narrative was Mario Sunshine
Title: Re: Microsoft capitulates! Armistice signed at noon
Post by: who is ted danson? on August 11, 2020, 05:58:11 PM
fuck 343. it doesn't matter if it release or not, they cannot make a playable halo game.
also fuck Sabre Interactive too
Title: Re: Microsoft capitulates! Armistice signed at noon
Post by: headwalk on August 11, 2020, 06:06:13 PM
imagine one of the biggest companies on earth putting the centrepiece of their generational hardware launch in the hands of a racist estranged scot with a untreatable addiction to message boards dedicated to making minorities feel uncomfortable.
Title: Re: Microsoft capitulates! Armistice signed at noon
Post by: Raist on August 11, 2020, 06:10:23 PM
It’s crazy there’s no forza 8 for series x release, wtf have turn 10 being doing for the last 3-4 years :lol :yeshrug

But drivatars.
Title: Re: Microsoft capitulates! Armistice signed at noon
Post by: Trent Dole on August 11, 2020, 06:11:38 PM
Look, I would love a fucking awesome Halo game. But Bungie's not involved anymore so it's not happening.
:teehee
Title: Re: Microsoft capitulates! Armistice signed at noon
Post by: tiesto on August 11, 2020, 06:19:04 PM
Weird Sony was the best with titles like Tokyo Jungle. Now it's all sad dad walking sims :walkaway

Does really anyone care about Halo in 2020, after every non Bungie game was a major disappointment?

Love me some Forza and Forza Horizon though, especially since Polyphony can't release one full fledged GT in an entire console cycle and Driveclub, which I liked, bombed and was immediately buried as an IP.

Same, I missed all the wacky-ass and varied first-party Sony games from the PS1/2, and even early PS3 era... PaRappa, Jumping Flash, Wild Arms, those weird-ass Artdink games, Arc the Lad, Intelligent Cube, Tokyo Jungle, Wipeout, Mark of Kri, obscure games like Velldeselba Senki (an RPG/flight sim hybrid with steampunk airship designs).

Does Sony even have a Japan team anymore aside from Polyphony?
Title: Re: Microsoft capitulates! Armistice signed at noon
Post by: demi on August 11, 2020, 06:28:56 PM
Game wasnt ready, lol
Title: Re: Microsoft capitulates! Armistice signed at noon
Post by: Nintex on August 11, 2020, 06:44:40 PM
Fable looking like it hasn't even really begun development:

https://www.playground-games.com/careers/

Not abnormal to have more than one "lead", but they are looking for both a Chief Enginner and a Co-Chief Engineer for Fable, and the ads talk about getting into the project early on.
Tom from Eurogamer said it best
https://twitter.com/tomphillipsEG/status/1293271625182437376 (https://twitter.com/tomphillipsEG/status/1293271625182437376)
Title: Re: Microsoft capitulates! Armistice signed at noon
Post by: Great Rumbler on August 11, 2020, 06:51:22 PM
Fable looking like it hasn't even really begun development:

https://www.playground-games.com/careers/

Not abnormal to have more than one "lead", but they are looking for both a Chief Enginner and a Co-Chief Engineer for Fable, and the ads talk about getting into the project early on.

Microsoft's 2023 lineup is gonna be pretty great!
Title: Re: Microsoft capitulates! Armistice signed at noon
Post by: naff on August 11, 2020, 06:51:37 PM
oops.

maybe xsx will release with their killer app Windows. they've been out of the antitrust lawsuits for a while (unlike GAFA), clearly they need to up their efforts to monopolize the market a little
Title: Re: Microsoft capitulates! Armistice signed at noon
Post by: Don Rumata on August 11, 2020, 06:58:28 PM
Weird Sony was the best with titles like Tokyo Jungle. Now it's all sad dad walking sims :walkaway

Does really anyone care about Halo in 2020, after every non Bungie game was a major disappointment?

Love me some Forza and Forza Horizon though, especially since Polyphony can't release one full fledged GT in an entire console cycle and Driveclub, which I liked, bombed and was immediately buried as an IP.
That was from Japan Studio, i don't think they're on the dad walking sim bandwagon yet.
But i'm still here waiting on that WiLD though. Any day now.

I just wanna turn into a bear and fuck a snake giantess.  :fbm
Title: Re: Microsoft capitulates! Armistice signed at noon
Post by: Joe Molotov on August 11, 2020, 10:10:48 PM
I just wanna turn into a bear and fuck a snake giantess.  :fbm

Sure, but I'm not sure why you posted this in the gaming forum ???
Title: Re: Microsoft capitulates! Armistice signed at noon
Post by: paprikastaude on August 11, 2020, 10:43:48 PM
Imagine thinking the people behind PowerPoint and Access could make a fun game

 :crowdlaff

Minesweeper :bolo
Title: Re: Microsoft capitulates! Armistice signed at noon
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on August 11, 2020, 11:21:44 PM
Man I cant get over how funny this is.

Clearly someone at MS thought the game was good enough to show and launch before the unveil.

Now suddenly 3-4 months before launch they delay their only big game.

Imagine the atmosphere at 343 now

Title: Re: Microsoft capitulates! Armistice signed at noon
Post by: kingv on August 12, 2020, 02:40:20 AM
To be honest, I'm happy about this. It was clear that they didn't have a chance to make it a truly next-gen upgrade by launch but it was the first Halo in a long while that seems to nail the gameplay, art, and world-building. Hopefully it revives the MP community as Halo was one of the most competitive yet not-super-toxic MP communities I've ever seen. Those clans would ban teabaggers in the game that invented it.

I half suspect 5 years from now MS will be selling / killing off Xbox personally.

But they don't need current Xbox owners to upgrade.. so you have to think about people currently outside the ecosystem to see their plan for success.  Granted not having Halo Infinite to sell them sucks, but a lot of these people never played the latest Gears/Forza/whatever, and want a cheap way to check out 3rd party games on Gamepass too.

I don't see them killing off xbox unless the whole world converts to playing on an Azure server, which would be ridiculous. And this surprised the hell out of me but the only semi-exclusive game that I can see being a system seller is Roblox. That game/platform is HUGE with young gamers and for some reason Sony won't open up their cross-play policy to allow it on their system.

There's no other game I can think of that is that popular and provides enough content to be the primary reason somebody buys new hardware. But of course it has potato graphics so you don't need to run it on a next-gen console.

My fucking kid is obsessed with Roblox.

I will say this though.... it sucks shit on Xbox. Most of the game run better on an iPad. And the interface is usually bad on a controller. My 8 year old is a true gamer that plays on PC.

There are like exactly 2-3 games that I don’t mind playing with her on it, because they are almost all terrible:
1- Arsenal (this basically an old school arena shooter, that is not good exactly but it’s not awful)
2- theme park tycoon. This is basicsllly roller coaster tycoon, but simpler mechanically. However, the ride building stuff is surprisingly robust. Like impressively so imo
3- some game where you just shoot at towers and blow them up. I forget what it’s called. Doomspire or something?

Most of the games are really low effort and amateurish
Title: Re: Microsoft capitulates! Armistice signed at noon
Post by: Pissy F Benny on August 12, 2020, 09:57:03 AM
that game is a big steaming turd anyway who gives a fuck :trumps
Title: Re: Microsoft capitulates! Armistice signed at noon
Post by: Don Rumata on August 12, 2020, 10:22:13 AM
that game is a big steaming turd anyway who gives a fuck :trumps
Control was last year's GOTY, fool.
Title: Re: Microsoft capitulates! Armistice signed at noon
Post by: Pissy F Benny on August 12, 2020, 10:24:42 AM
:rash
Title: Re: Microsoft capitulates! Armistice signed at noon
Post by: bork on August 12, 2020, 10:27:35 AM
Next gen gets better and better

:rofl

https://www.resetera.com/threads/control-will-not-support-smart-delivery-free-next-gen-upgrade-only-with-purchase-of-the-ultimate-edition.266829/ (https://www.resetera.com/threads/control-will-not-support-smart-delivery-free-next-gen-upgrade-only-with-purchase-of-the-ultimate-edition.266829/)

WHY WOULD THEY DO THIS?!?!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7AL44keDZw

Oh yeah.
Title: Re: Microsoft capitulates! Armistice signed at noon
Post by: Nintex on August 12, 2020, 11:49:17 AM
Microsoft saying: "You will get your remastered games free!" always seemed a bit strange to me.

Many third parties are just not going to do that. It has to be the exact same game, so if they only release the Ultimate Edition on Xbox Series X and PS5 and not the standard you won't 'auto-upgrade' from your original version.
Square Enix will likely do the same thing. Final Fantasy VII R Tifa Edition, sorry, this is a different game no update for you.  ;)
Title: Re: Microsoft capitulates! Armistice signed at noon
Post by: BIONIC on August 12, 2020, 11:59:29 AM
that game is a big steaming turd anyway who gives a fuck :trumps

More like Piss Baby  ::)
Title: Re: Microsoft capitulates! Armistice signed at noon
Post by: Pissy F Benny on August 12, 2020, 12:06:16 PM
More like the fisherman 🎣 :pimp

(https://i.imgur.com/BIBZgCL.png)
Title: Re: Microsoft capitulates! Armistice signed at noon
Post by: mormapope on August 12, 2020, 02:14:29 PM
that game is a big steaming turd anyway who gives a fuck :trumps
Control was last year's GOTY, fool.

Control has all the ingredients of a great game but gave me next to no enjoyment. Remedy makes fun and serviceable games, but besides Max Payne, I've never enjoyed their storytelling.

Title: Re: Microsoft capitulates! Armistice signed at noon
Post by: Joe Molotov on August 12, 2020, 02:38:00 PM
Microsoft saying: "You will get your remastered games free!" always seemed a bit strange to me.

They never said this.

You think Nintex would do that? Just go on the Internet and tell lies?
Title: Re: Microsoft capitulates! Armistice signed at noon
Post by: Don Rumata on August 12, 2020, 02:54:55 PM
that game is a big steaming turd anyway who gives a fuck :trumps
Control was last year's GOTY, fool.

Control has all the ingredients of a great game but gave me next to no enjoyment. Remedy makes fun and serviceable games, but besides Max Payne, I've never enjoyed their storytelling.
I hated every Remedy game post Max Payne 2 (this includes Alan Wake, despite being a Lynch fanboy).
I went into Control with very low expectations, aside from it looking very good, but in the end i loved pretty much everything about it.
It could've used a bit more polish in some design aspects (difficulty curve is off, the bosses mostly suck, some visual elements are hard to read, and the checkpoint system is dog shit) but i loved the world, the visual design, and the gameplay was the most fun i've had with a 3rd person shooter since... well, Max Payne 2.

Although 90% of the quality in the writing department was merely for the world building, because the main plot itself was kind of whatever and ended abruptly, but you could say a similar thing for Witcher 3, for example.
Title: Re: Microsoft capitulates! Armistice signed at noon
Post by: Pissy F Benny on August 12, 2020, 05:32:01 PM
that game is a big steaming turd anyway who gives a fuck :trumps
Control was last year's GOTY, fool.

Control has all the ingredients of a great game but gave me next to no enjoyment. Remedy makes fun and serviceable games, but besides Max Payne, I've never enjoyed their storytelling.
I hated every Remedy game post Max Payne 2 (this includes Alan Wake, despite being a Lynch fanboy).
I went into Control with very low expectations, aside from it looking very good, but in the end i loved pretty much everything about it.
It could've used a bit more polish in some design aspects (difficulty curve is off, the bosses mostly suck, some visual elements are hard to read, and the checkpoint system is dog shit) but i loved the world, the visual design, and the gameplay was the most fun i've had with a 3rd person shooter since... well, Max Payne 2.

Although 90% of the quality in the writing department was merely for the world building, because the main plot itself was kind of whatever and ended abruptly, but you could say a similar thing for Witcher 3, for example.

So it’s shit then :yeshrug
Title: Re: Microsoft capitulates! Armistice signed at noon
Post by: Don Rumata on August 13, 2020, 01:08:00 AM
that game is a big steaming turd anyway who gives a fuck :trumps
Control was last year's GOTY, fool.

Control has all the ingredients of a great game but gave me next to no enjoyment. Remedy makes fun and serviceable games, but besides Max Payne, I've never enjoyed their storytelling.
I hated every Remedy game post Max Payne 2 (this includes Alan Wake, despite being a Lynch fanboy).
I went into Control with very low expectations, aside from it looking very good, but in the end i loved pretty much everything about it.
It could've used a bit more polish in some design aspects (difficulty curve is off, the bosses mostly suck, some visual elements are hard to read, and the checkpoint system is dog shit) but i loved the world, the visual design, and the gameplay was the most fun i've had with a 3rd person shooter since... well, Max Payne 2.

Although 90% of the quality in the writing department was merely for the world building, because the main plot itself was kind of whatever and ended abruptly, but you could say a similar thing for Witcher 3, for example.

So it’s shit then :yeshrug
By the degree that every videogame is shit, yes. :thinking
But it's more like cute lil' rabbit shit marbles, compared to other game's piles of Mammoth's diarrhea.
Title: Re: Microsoft capitulates! Armistice signed at noon
Post by: bork on August 13, 2020, 09:08:05 AM
https://twitter.com/dark1x/status/1293893455056437251
https://twitter.com/dark1x/status/1293894372682076160

He really needs to just get off all social media.   :-\
Title: Re: Microsoft capitulates! Armistice signed at noon
Post by: Don Rumata on August 13, 2020, 09:40:32 AM
A console launch is not a religious ritual, let these things come out, people will enjoy them eventually, lol.
Besides, consoles at launch are nothing anybody ever enjoys in the first place, because they only have shit games.
Title: Re: Microsoft capitulates! Armistice signed at noon
Post by: Great Rumbler on August 13, 2020, 09:50:52 AM
I've only ever bought two consoles at launch: Gamecube and Wii.
Title: Re: Microsoft capitulates! Armistice signed at noon
Post by: Pissy F Benny on August 13, 2020, 09:53:41 AM
i got a wii u at launch like a fucking idiot  :yuck :yuck :yuck

if you like sportz games launches aren't too bad cos at least they'll tide you over til the hot hot shit comes out :trumps
Title: Re: Microsoft capitulates! Armistice signed at noon
Post by: thisismyusername on August 13, 2020, 10:03:41 AM
Buying launch consoles that have a high failure rate. :donot
Title: Re: Microsoft capitulates! Armistice signed at noon
Post by: Joe Molotov on August 13, 2020, 10:12:15 AM
Buying launch consoles that have a high failure rate. :donot

I also have a high failure rate so I can sympathize.
Title: Re: Microsoft capitulates! Armistice signed at noon
Post by: MMaRsu on August 13, 2020, 10:14:35 AM
My entire life has a high failure rate
Title: Re: Microsoft capitulates! Armistice signed at noon
Post by: Pissy F Benny on August 13, 2020, 10:23:28 AM
my launch ps4 poor is still going strong :whew
Title: Re: Microsoft capitulates! Armistice signed at noon
Post by: demi on August 13, 2020, 11:43:46 AM
Nah fuck that gimme my 60 frames Destiny, launch that Xbox right now
Title: Re: Microsoft capitulates! Armistice signed at noon
Post by: Nintex on August 13, 2020, 12:53:43 PM
I bought at launch

Nintendo DS
For a while I only had the Metroid demo and my GBA library. It was ok-ish but the screen sure took a beating from using the infamous 'Touch Strap' in Super Mario 64 DS. The DS was basically a prototype lol.
Luckily the DS Lite came out pretty quickly and fixed most if not all of the problems. Got the DSi too once that came out.

Wii
Zelda Twilight Princess was fantastic and Wii Sports bowling was fun. Other games arrived shortly after and the first year was awesome with the likes of Metroid Prime 3, Mario Galaxy and Smash Bros. dropping one after the other.
Coming from the GameCube it was a very exciting time to see so many games release on a Nintendo platform even if there was a lot of shovelware.

3DS
The 3DS was a nice piece of hardware but again there weren't many games at launch. OOT 3D arrived pretty quickly after launch, so I didn't really understand the backlash against the 3DS. Sure, the price was a bit too high for a Nintendo machine of this caliber ($250 I believe) but I greatly enjoyed it. Even more so when we got all those free GBA games to ease the pain of jumping in at launch. The launch line-up aside it was a great system (especially compared to the 'prototype' DS.

Wii U
Finally next gen Nintendo was here. New Super Mario Bros U was great, that game got too much hate. Nintendo Land was an ok pack-in experience. Although even then it was clear that the hardware gimmicks of the Wii U didn't add much to the overall experience.
After that it became a trickle of a new game once every 4 - 6 months and even many first party Nintendo games weren't really great and without third party support I certainly regretted buying the Wii U at launch and it stopped me from getting the Switch at launch.

It's fun to be part of that launch experience. I'm as of yet undecided if I want to do a Zen 3 PC upgrade or go with the Xbox Series X or PlayStation 5.
Title: Re: Microsoft capitulates! Armistice signed at noon
Post by: headwalk on August 14, 2020, 08:53:39 AM
dark1x always seems so chill in videos, like a balanced good dude who enjoys his work, then his posts and social media and shit are borderline apocalyptic.
Title: Re: Microsoft capitulates! Armistice signed at noon
Post by: bork on August 14, 2020, 09:19:05 AM
dark1x always seems so chill in videos, like a balanced good dude who enjoys his work, then his posts and social media and shit are borderline apocalyptic.

For the most part, his Twitter feed seems to be pretty chill, too.  He just needs to stop bothering with fanboy idiocy:

(https://i.imgur.com/rP0M0ht.png)
https://twitter.com/dark1x/status/1294223253871960065
Title: Re: Microsoft capitulates! Armistice signed at noon
Post by: Let's Cyber on August 14, 2020, 09:53:50 AM
Buying launch consoles that have a high failure rate. :donot
Or, god forbid, buying a 360 at any point  :'(
Title: Re: Microsoft capitulates! Armistice signed at noon
Post by: Let's Cyber on August 14, 2020, 09:56:46 AM
dark1x always seems so chill in videos, like a balanced good dude who enjoys his work, then his posts and social media and shit are borderline apocalyptic.
For sure. Even back in the day when I only knew him on GAF, I always thought he was an annoying blowhard.

I love his work for DF tho. His DF Retro vids are great. 
Title: Re: Microsoft capitulates! Armistice signed at noon
Post by: Trent Dole on August 14, 2020, 03:02:11 PM
Buying launch consoles that have a high failure rate. :donot
Or, god forbid, buying a 360 at any point  :'(
Hey the slim doesn't have a 100% failure rate!
Title: Re: Microsoft capitulates! Armistice signed at noon
Post by: bork on August 16, 2020, 09:10:21 PM
https://twitter.com/Pvt_Biscuit/status/1295145938839834630
Title: Re: Microsoft capitulates! Armistice signed at noon
Post by: remy on August 16, 2020, 10:02:49 PM
Having one S and series S on the shelf at the same time is some Wii U type shit
Title: Re: Microsoft capitulates! Armistice signed at noon
Post by: tiesto on August 17, 2020, 12:20:42 AM
https://twitter.com/Pvt_Biscuit/status/1295145938839834630

I interviewed for Zebra, most grueling interview of my life (had to interview with 5 separate people and it took a whole day... and I still didn't get it :/)
Title: Re: Microsoft capitulates! Armistice signed at noon
Post by: Raist on August 17, 2020, 04:06:21 PM
Xbone S/X

Xbone Series S/X

I'm sure no one will get confused. Worked out real smooth with the WiiU after all.
Title: Re: Microsoft capitulates! Armistice signed at noon
Post by: Nintex on August 17, 2020, 07:38:33 PM
Xbone S/X

Xbone Series S/X

I'm sure no one will get confused. Worked out real smooth with the WiiU after all.
Don't worry, the game boxes say: "XBOX" and "SMART DELIVERY"

that should clear everything up.
Title: Re: Microsoft capitulates! Armistice signed at noon
Post by: kingv on August 17, 2020, 10:51:42 PM
But doesn’t the series s play all the Xbox one games and also the new ones?

Biggest thing they need to avoid is making damn sure that both aren’t on the shelf at the same time so grandma doesn’t buy Noah a one s for Christmas when he wanted a series s.
Title: Re: Microsoft capitulates! Armistice signed at noon
Post by: bork on August 20, 2020, 08:44:40 AM
https://505games.com/control-ultimate-edition-an-explanation/
Quote
I own the Control base game and Season Pass. Is this not the same as Control Ultimate Edition?

The objective of Control Ultimate Edition was not to release new exclusive content on the next gen platforms, but to offer the full Control gameplay experience to new Control players in a single, easy-to-find product. The PlayStation 5/Xbox Series X versions of Control contain the same content as the current gen game, though they do take full advantage of the power and features provided by these new consoles.

The upgrade path that we are offering is only possible when upgrading from the same version of the game. As we are only doing additional development on Control Ultimate Edition on the next gen platforms, we are unfortunately unable to offer an upgrade path to all existing Control players. We understand how this might upset a number of players but you will still be able to play the 2019 edition of Control and each Expansion on the new platforms.
:gaas

So why can't people who have the digital deluxe/game+season pass not just be upgraded to the Ultimate Edition?  :doge
Title: Re: Microsoft capitulates! Armistice signed at noon
Post by: Svejk on August 20, 2020, 09:09:10 AM
Xbone S/X

Xbone Series S/X

I'm sure no one will get confused. Worked out real smooth with the WiiU after all.
But doesn’t the series s play all the Xbox one games and also the new ones?

Biggest thing they need to avoid is making damn sure that both aren’t on the shelf at the same time so grandma doesn’t buy Noah a one s for Christmas when he wanted a series s.
To be quite honest, I'm already confused... Which one's supposed to be the "nex genz" one?? 
spoiler (click to show/hide)
Not that I ever plan on getting an XB ever again
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Title: Re: Microsoft capitulates! Armistice signed at noon
Post by: kingv on August 20, 2020, 10:37:48 AM
The rumour I think is that series s is just the series X with a cut down GPU that is more like “same graphics settings at 1080P instead of 4K” but it hasn’t been officially announced, so who knows really
Title: Re: Microsoft capitulates! Armistice signed at noon
Post by: brawndolicious on August 20, 2020, 02:46:47 PM
The rumour I think is that series s is just the series X with a cut down GPU that is more like “same graphics settings at 1080P instead of 4K” but it hasn’t been officially announced, so who knows really

Yeah, less GPU and RAM, same CPU, so basically having 3 times less graphics power but aiming for 4 times lower resolution. I think the Switch is proof that most people don't care or can live without high resolution. The only thing that matters is who gets to $300 first.
Title: Re: Microsoft capitulates! Armistice signed at noon
Post by: Nintex on August 20, 2020, 03:12:33 PM
The rumour I think is that series s is just the series X with a cut down GPU that is more like “same graphics settings at 1080P instead of 4K” but it hasn’t been officially announced, so who knows really

Yeah, less GPU and RAM, same CPU, so basically having 3 times less graphics power but aiming for 4 times lower resolution. I think the Switch is proof that most people don't care or can live without high resolution. The only thing that matters is who gets to $300 first.
I read it runs at less than 4TF, which would mean it is slower than Xbox One X(6TF). But also this won't hold back next-gen in any way according to the Microbots(?)

From what I've heard it's also unlikely to ship this year, globally at least. I've got no clue what MS is doing and these rumors aren't helping.
Also having 343i people come out and post Star Wars The Last Jedi gifs or community manager posts on Reddit to debunk rumors that Phil admitted to in his chat with Gary Whitta in Animal Crossing doesn't help to clear things up.
Title: Re: Microsoft capitulates! Armistice signed at noon
Post by: brawndolicious on August 20, 2020, 04:01:57 PM
The rumour I think is that series s is just the series X with a cut down GPU that is more like “same graphics settings at 1080P instead of 4K” but it hasn’t been officially announced, so who knows really

Yeah, less GPU and RAM, same CPU, so basically having 3 times less graphics power but aiming for 4 times lower resolution. I think the Switch is proof that most people don't care or can live without high resolution. The only thing that matters is who gets to $300 first.
I read it runs at less than 4TF, which would mean it is slower than Xbox One X(6TF). But also this won't hold back next-gen in any way according to the Microbots(?)

From what I've heard it's also unlikely to ship this year, globally at least. I've got no clue what MS is doing and these rumors aren't helping.
Also having 343i people come out and post Star Wars The Last Jedi gifs or community manager posts on Reddit to debunk rumors that Phil admitted to in his chat with Gary Whitta in Animal Crossing doesn't help to clear things up.

Everything about it is a rumor but I've always heard 4 TF (3.97 TF according to Tom Warren):

https://twitter.com/tomwarren/status/1295638725272141825?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1295638725272141825%7Ctwgr%5E&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fs9e.github.io%2Fiframe%2F2%2Ftwitter.min.html1295638725272141825

Also, teraflops are only useful I think when comparing within the same architecture. X1X used GCN 4.0 (roughly RX 580 equivalent) while these new consoles are going to be under the RDNA2 family. For reference, an RX 5500 XT is an RDNA1 card (so less advanced than RDNA2) and it has up to 10% better gaming performance than a RX 580:

https://www.techspot.com/review/1958-amd-radeon-rx-5500-xt/

GPU|RX 580|RX 5500 XT
Architecture|GCN 4.0|RDNA1
Teraflops|6.175|5.197

So you're getting 30% better performance per flop when comparing RDNA1 with GCN4, although this is probably a shitty way of calculating it. The most important thing is that the XSS is supposed to have the same ray tracing and machine learning architecture as the big brothers, just on fewer cores. So any lighting or ML resolution tools should hopefully scale over proportionally.
Title: Re: Microsoft capitulates! Armistice signed at noon
Post by: Pissy F Benny on August 20, 2020, 05:32:55 PM
Stop making shit up liartous :smug
Title: Re: Microsoft capitulates! Armistice signed at noon
Post by: kingv on August 20, 2020, 10:51:13 PM
I think the bigger thing that would hold next gen back is if the CPU is slower. The ones in ps4 and Xbox one are pretty old, even when they launched
Title: Re: Microsoft capitulates! Armistice signed at noon
Post by: bork on August 23, 2020, 09:09:45 PM
Seeing rumors now that Halo Infinite will not be coming out for Xbox One.  Bullshit?
Title: Re: Microsoft capitulates! Armistice signed at noon
Post by: nudemacusers on August 23, 2020, 09:48:35 PM
I can see them making it a delayed release for older peasant systems but i get the impression halo is the flagship testbed for M$'* push for the 'play on anything' initiative so having it be sequestered to just their best shit would run counter to that.

then again i don't care about halo so it could release on the zune :trumps


*:smug
Title: Re: Microsoft capitulates! Armistice signed at noon
Post by: Pissy F Benny on August 23, 2020, 10:22:00 PM
It sounds like bullshit on the surface but the game seems like a total mess so it wouldn’t shock me. Maybe they can make it look like a 360 game without the Xbox one specs holding it back :doge
Title: Re: Microsoft capitulates! Armistice signed at noon
Post by: MMaRsu on August 24, 2020, 07:12:22 AM
https://505games.com/control-ultimate-edition-an-explanation/
Quote
I own the Control base game and Season Pass. Is this not the same as Control Ultimate Edition?

The objective of Control Ultimate Edition was not to release new exclusive content on the next gen platforms, but to offer the full Control gameplay experience to new Control players in a single, easy-to-find product. The PlayStation 5/Xbox Series X versions of Control contain the same content as the current gen game, though they do take full advantage of the power and features provided by these new consoles.

The upgrade path that we are offering is only possible when upgrading from the same version of the game. As we are only doing additional development on Control Ultimate Edition on the next gen platforms, we are unfortunately unable to offer an upgrade path to all existing Control players. We understand how this might upset a number of players but you will still be able to play the 2019 edition of Control and each Expansion on the new platforms.
:gaas

So why can't people who have the digital deluxe/game+season pass not just be upgraded to the Ultimate Edition?  :doge


Oh you have the Digital Deluxe Edition?

FUCK YOU PAY ME

https://youtu.be/8L4HHPTiZN8
Title: Re: Microsoft capitulates! Armistice signed at noon
Post by: Nintex on August 24, 2020, 10:58:48 AM
What I'm hearing is that the plan is to push HALO Infinite back as far as holiday 2021 or 2022(with a meaty multiplayer beta by the end of 2021) so that would explain dropping the Xbox One version. :doge
Title: Re: Microsoft capitulates! Armistice signed at noon
Post by: MMaRsu on August 24, 2020, 01:07:32 PM
I already suggested doing as such in a fine Neogaf thread I created awhile back. The turd version is severely holding them back obviously
Title: Re: Microsoft capitulates! Armistice signed at noon
Post by: Raist on August 24, 2020, 01:19:11 PM
Or you know 343i is just fucking garbage.
Title: Re: Microsoft capitulates! Armistice signed at noon
Post by: MMaRsu on August 24, 2020, 01:39:08 PM
Well yeah also that
Title: Re: Microsoft capitulates! Armistice signed at noon
Post by: Nintex on August 27, 2020, 06:23:33 AM
They brought Joseph Staten on board to try and salvage this mess.  :lol

https://twitter.com/joestaten/status/1298822686420819968 (https://twitter.com/joestaten/status/1298822686420819968)
Title: Re: Microsoft capitulates! Armistice signed at noon
Post by: thisismyusername on August 27, 2020, 08:01:24 AM
They brought Joseph Staten on board to try and salvage this mess.  :lol

Looking at his twitter feed, he's been all over MS studios. So I'm thinking this is more consulting (despite the "foodnipple" tweet) than anything.

https://twitter.com/joestaten/status/1298822908253364225
Title: Re: Microsoft capitulates! Armistice signed at noon
Post by: Nintex on August 27, 2020, 08:06:41 AM
They brought Joseph Staten on board to try and salvage this mess.  :lol

Looking at his twitter feed, he's been all over MS studios. So I'm thinking this is more consulting (despite the "foodnipple" tweet) than anything.

https://twitter.com/joestaten/status/1298822908253364225
They made a big deal out of it in their PR and some other guy was put in charge of the Free to play multiplayer.
Also don't listen to the rumors that are usually 100% on the mark because 343i is not just a sinking but also a leaky boat.

The last time they called upon Staten to fix something late in development was the hit video game Crackdown 3. 
Also Certain Affinity made it official they are co-dev on this. Again another studio that helped out with Crackdown 3.
Title: Re: Microsoft capitulates! Armistice signed at noon
Post by: benjipwns on August 27, 2020, 10:13:06 AM
Certain Affinity has been one of the Halo/CoD developers, especially for multiplayer, pretty much since they opened. They've got lots of ex-Bungie and ex-Microsoft.