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General => The Superdeep Borehole => Topic started by: Shostakovich on August 16, 2020, 03:21:52 PM

Title: Is Trump the most peaceful president since Jimmy Carter?
Post by: Shostakovich on August 16, 2020, 03:21:52 PM
I just noticed that the Taliban signed a peace deal in March, thus ending the single longest war in American history. Trump's reward for this was an onslaught of negative news about Russian sponsored assassinations in Afghanistan. Similarly, Trump was the first president since Bill Clinton to walk on North Korean soil. This gesture ultimately failed but rather than encourage the president to succeed, the media ridiculed him as a dictator lover. Trump aborted a global effort to oust Nicolas Maduro in Venezuela. And Trump tried so hard to normalize relations with Russia that he suffered years of libelous abuse for it from sniveling cowards like Mandark and Great Rumbler.

Love him or hate him, I can't think of a president who has tried harder to secure peace overseas in the past 40 years than the current occupant of the White House. If Obama can get the Nobel Peace Prize for starting a secret war in Yemen, shouldn't Trump get at least some recognition as a lover of peace?
Title: Re: Is Trump the most peaceful president since Jimmy Carter?
Post by: BIONIC on August 16, 2020, 03:29:18 PM
Donald The Dove  :trumps
Title: Re: Is Trump the most peaceful president since Jimmy Carter?
Post by: OnlyRegret on August 16, 2020, 03:41:43 PM
I did like the North Korea story arc, that was full of twists, and the Syrian withdrawal.
Knocking Juan G only for Biden to leap to his defence :goty
Title: Re: Is Trump the most peaceful president since Jimmy Carter?
Post by: VomKriege on August 16, 2020, 03:44:07 PM
https://foreignpolicy.com/2020/05/22/obama-drones-trump-killings-count/

"He didn't start any large scale needless war"
:engel
Title: Re: Is Trump the most peaceful president since Jimmy Carter?
Post by: OnlyRegret on August 16, 2020, 03:44:32 PM
One day, maybe the mystery of Damascus Steel will be solved. For that Damascus must stand.
Title: Re: Is Trump the most peaceful president since Jimmy Carter?
Post by: VomKriege on August 16, 2020, 03:49:02 PM
https://foreignpolicy.com/2020/05/22/obama-drones-trump-killings-count/

"He didn't start any large scale needless war"
:engel

(https://foreignpolicy.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/dronestrikechart.png?w=800&h=594&quality=90)

Quote from: From my link
As of May 18, the Trump administration had launched 40 airstrikes in Somalia in 2020 alone. That figure is made all the more staggering by the fact that, from 2007 through 2016, the administrations of George W. Bush and Barack Obama conducted 41 airstrikes in Somalia total, according to reporting from Airwars.

And Suleimani too.
Title: Re: Is Trump the most peaceful president since Jimmy Carter?
Post by: Mandark on August 16, 2020, 03:49:48 PM
"since Jimmy Carter" is the underrated part of this
Title: Re: Is Trump the most peaceful president since Jimmy Carter?
Post by: Pissy F Benny on August 16, 2020, 03:53:10 PM
I feel like trump shockingly has the lowest body count of recent US presidents but that’s a hunch not a fact :trumps
Title: Re: Is Trump the most peaceful president since Jimmy Carter?
Post by: OnlyRegret on August 16, 2020, 03:54:10 PM
I feel like trump shockingly has the lowest body count of recent US presidents but that’s a hunch not a fact :trumps

Instead he wracked up a body count of Americans, to mix things up.
Title: Re: Is Trump the most peaceful president since Jimmy Carter?
Post by: Pissy F Benny on August 16, 2020, 03:55:32 PM
KAG 2020 :killme
Title: Re: Is Trump the most peaceful president since Jimmy Carter?
Post by: OnlyRegret on August 16, 2020, 03:57:10 PM
I think in the future, historians will rate Trump's presidency much more positively than people do right now.

The global juche superstate will reminisce fondly :jeb
Title: Re: Is Trump the most peaceful president since Jimmy Carter?
Post by: Pissy F Benny on August 16, 2020, 03:57:52 PM
I feel like trump shockingly has the lowest body count of recent US presidents but that’s a hunch not a fact :trumps

Instead he wracked up a body count of Americans, to mix things up.

I don’t wanna come off like a trump dickrider here, but I suspect America would be in largely the same position re: the rona with Hillary or anyone else in charge as they are now :yeshrug
Title: Re: Is Trump the most peaceful president since Jimmy Carter?
Post by: curly on August 16, 2020, 04:05:36 PM
I think in the future, historians will rate Trump's presidency much more positively than people do right now.

Well I know a guy who thinks that Trump is the greatest president ever, so it's going to be hard to go beyond that
Title: Re: Is Trump the most peaceful president since Jimmy Carter?
Post by: Mandark on August 16, 2020, 04:07:17 PM
Well I know a guy who thinks that Trump is the greatest president ever
it's something you're hearing more and more

spoiler (click to show/hide)
I remember seeing some middle aged guys on FB say this back in 2017 or 2018 and being a little surprised they'd throw Reagan under the bus that quickly.
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Title: Re: Is Trump the most peaceful president since Jimmy Carter?
Post by: Himu on August 16, 2020, 04:07:54 PM
What the fuck is this thread
Title: Re: Is Trump the most peaceful president since Jimmy Carter?
Post by: Mandark on August 16, 2020, 04:09:29 PM
it's just trollin'
Title: Re: Is Trump the most peaceful president since Jimmy Carter?
Post by: Don Rumata on August 16, 2020, 04:09:44 PM
Why are you doing this
:putin
Working his ass for a dose of that vaccine.
Title: Re: Is Trump the most peaceful president since Jimmy Carter?
Post by: VomKriege on August 16, 2020, 04:11:53 PM
Well I know a guy who thinks that Trump is the greatest president ever
it's something you're hearing more and more

spoiler (click to show/hide)
I remember seeing some middle aged guys on FB say this back in 2017 or 2018 and being a little surprised they'd throw Reagan under the bus that quickly.
[close]

Reagan is pretty worn out at that point to qualify as a "recent patch of greatness". Trump is certainly memorable, the rose-tint version they'll paint of him in a decade is going to be  :doge
Title: Re: Is Trump the most peaceful president since Jimmy Carter?
Post by: team filler on August 16, 2020, 04:16:42 PM
german women hate him  :shaq
Title: Re: Is Trump the most peaceful president since Jimmy Carter?
Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on August 16, 2020, 04:21:33 PM
Well duh. Why do you think Clinton, Bush, and Obama hate him?
Title: Re: Is Trump the most peaceful president since Jimmy Carter?
Post by: VomKriege on August 16, 2020, 04:26:42 PM
Well duh. Why do you think Clinton, Bush, and Obama hate him?

They're German women ?  :ohhh
Title: Re: Is Trump the most peaceful president since Jimmy Carter?
Post by: curly on August 16, 2020, 04:28:53 PM
Well I know a guy who thinks that Trump is the greatest president ever
it's something you're hearing more and more

spoiler (click to show/hide)
I remember seeing some middle aged guys on FB say this back in 2017 or 2018 and being a little surprised they'd throw Reagan under the bus that quickly.
[close]

Reagan didn't end the Obama depression and give us the greatest economy ever

I assume that's his reasoning
Title: Re: Is Trump the most peaceful president since Jimmy Carter?
Post by: Himu on August 16, 2020, 04:30:30 PM
it's just trollin'

I know but still
Title: Re: Is Trump the most peaceful president since Jimmy Carter?
Post by: Mandark on August 16, 2020, 04:33:21 PM
Reagan didn't end the Obama depression and give us the greatest economy ever

I assume that's his reasoning

Reagan brought down the Communist regime in Russia but Trump brought down the Communist regime in America, so.
Title: Re: Is Trump the most peaceful president since Jimmy Carter?
Post by: curly on August 16, 2020, 04:37:52 PM
We still ended up with Putin and Obama so obviously it didn't stick
Title: Re: Is Trump the most peaceful president since Jimmy Carter?
Post by: Nintex on August 16, 2020, 05:03:51 PM
Yeah if it wasn't for COVID-19 Trump's body count would be very low, his economy fine and he wouldn't have had any trouble getting re-elected.
In fact, the news right now would be the FBI lawyer pleading guilty to falsifying evidence against Carter Page and the Middle East peace deal.

It's crazy how Corona-Chan fucked everything up for him in such a short period of time.
And mostly because Jared Kushner thought it would hurt local and state governments more politically than the federal government.
Title: Re: Is Trump the most peaceful president since Jimmy Carter?
Post by: Pissy F Benny on August 16, 2020, 05:10:01 PM
We’ve all been gold pilled :trumps
Title: Re: Is Trump the most peaceful president since Jimmy Carter?
Post by: Trent Dole on August 16, 2020, 05:13:08 PM
Yeah if it wasn't for COVID-19 Trump's body count would be very low...
Obama was notoriously drone happy and Trump is even more so? Unless you mean deaths of Americans.
Title: Re: Is Trump the most peaceful president since Jimmy Carter?
Post by: Nintex on August 16, 2020, 05:20:03 PM
Yeah if it wasn't for COVID-19 Trump's body count would be very low...
Obama was notoriously drone happy and Trump is even more so? Unless you mean deaths of Americans.
Obama early on had the intervention of Libya which puts him at a disadvantage.
Title: Re: Is Trump the most peaceful president since Jimmy Carter?
Post by: Mandark on August 16, 2020, 05:24:21 PM
Yeah if it wasn't for COVID-19

But other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, what did you think of the play?
Title: Re: Is Trump the most peaceful president since Jimmy Carter?
Post by: samir on August 16, 2020, 05:55:17 PM
American's got a taste of their own medicine for once and they immediately start crying and shitting their pants

(https://i.imgur.com/w3hUyFC.gif)
Title: Re: Is Trump the most peaceful president since Jimmy Carter?
Post by: Great Rumbler on August 16, 2020, 06:07:05 PM
Not today, Satan!
Title: Re: Is Trump the most peaceful president since Jimmy Carter?
Post by: team filler on August 16, 2020, 06:07:06 PM
 :kermit
Title: Re: Is Trump the most peaceful president since Jimmy Carter?
Post by: Lonewulfeus on August 16, 2020, 06:21:33 PM
TIL Shosta shares his account with Assimilate
Title: Re: Is Trump the most peaceful president since Jimmy Carter?
Post by: ToxicAdam on August 16, 2020, 06:26:28 PM
If you measure effectiveness by foreign death per dollar spent, he’s one of the worst ever. Very inefficient.

Title: Re: Is Trump the most peaceful president since Jimmy Carter?
Post by: headwalk on August 16, 2020, 06:37:28 PM
this is absolute S+ tier shitposting and i can but stand in awe.
Title: Re: Is Trump the most peaceful president since Jimmy Carter?
Post by: recursivelyenumerable on August 16, 2020, 08:04:18 PM
 :goty2
Title: Re: Is Trump the most peaceful president since Jimmy Carter?
Post by: Lonewulfeus on August 16, 2020, 08:05:27 PM
I dare anyone in this thread to quantify Obama's foreign policy against Trump's, in detail, and show that I'm wrong.

(http://To whoever is quoting this: you are so easy to bait :lol)

Number of MOABs dropped:

Obama: 0
Trump: 1

Checkmate college intellectual.
Title: Re: Is Trump the most peaceful president since Jimmy Carter?
Post by: Joe Molotov on August 16, 2020, 09:41:26 PM
Number of MOBAs dropped:

Obama: 40+
Trump: I dunno, 5 or 6 probably.
Title: Re: Is Trump the most peaceful president since Jimmy Carter?
Post by: benjipwns on August 16, 2020, 10:44:45 PM
 :hmm

You've given me a lot of think about, can I pass up the one chance that peace actually is on the ballot and my vote will decide the election?
Title: Re: Is Trump the most peaceful president since Jimmy Carter?
Post by: team filler on August 16, 2020, 10:51:59 PM
you can't even spell it on this messageboard  :wut
Title: Re: Is Trump the most peaceful president since Jimmy Carter?
Post by: Human Snorenado on August 17, 2020, 12:00:17 AM
I mean sure if you're not an American civilian or a foreign journalist on American soil or an American journalist on American soil or a refugee or...
Title: Re: Is Trump the most peaceful president since Jimmy Carter?
Post by: bork on August 17, 2020, 09:15:00 AM
Is this a practice run for an Era thread? :awesome
Title: Re: Is Trump the most peaceful president since Jimmy Carter?
Post by: Uncle on August 17, 2020, 03:27:57 PM
Love him or hate him, I can't think of a president who has tried harder to secure peace overseas in the past 40 years than the current occupant of the White House. If Obama can get the Nobel Peace Prize for starting a secret war in Yemen, shouldn't Trump get at least some recognition as a lover of peace?

https://twitter.com/dril/status/831805955402776576
Title: Re: Is Trump the most peaceful president since Jimmy Carter?
Post by: Boredfrom on August 17, 2020, 03:49:00 PM
Why are you doing this

Bernie.
Title: Re: Is Trump the most peaceful president since Jimmy Carter?
Post by: Boredfrom on September 08, 2020, 09:00:28 PM
But he is also selling weapons to the Saudis and has ties with the military complex...
Title: Re: Is Trump the most peaceful president since Jimmy Carter?
Post by: benjipwns on September 08, 2020, 09:09:34 PM
FACT CHECK:
Quote from: joebiden.com
End Forever Wars: Biden will end the forever wars in Afghanistan and the Middle East, which have cost us untold blood and treasure. As he has long argued, Biden will bring the vast majority of our troops home from Afghanistan and narrowly focus our mission on Al-Qaeda and ISIS. And he will end our support for the Saudi-led war in Yemen. Staying entrenched in unwinnable conflicts only drains our capacity to lead on other issues that require our attention, and it prevents us from rebuilding the other instruments of American power.

Restore and Reimagine Partnerships: A Biden administration will do more than restore our historic partnerships; it will lead the effort to reimagine them for the future. This means keeping NATO’s military capabilities sharp, while also expanding our capacity to take on new, non-traditional threats like weaponized corruption, cyber theft, and new challenges in space and on the high seas; calling on all NATO nations to recommit to their responsibilities as members of a democratic alliance; and strengthening cooperation with democratic partners beyond North America and Europe by reaching out to our partners in Asia to fortify our collective capabilities and integrating our friends in Latin America and Africa. When the United States hosts the next Summit of the Americas in 2021, President Biden will harness this opportunity to rebuild strong hemispheric ties based on respect for democracy, human rights, and the rule of law. We will also strengthen our alliances with Japan, South Korea, Australia and other Asian democracies, while sustaining an ironclad commitment to Israel’s security.
Title: Re: Is Trump the most peaceful president since Jimmy Carter?
Post by: team filler on September 08, 2020, 09:52:06 PM
If I recall it wasn't long ago he was bragging about how many munitions and bombs he bought for the military because they had no bullets left thanks to Obama. And he's repeatedly asked about dropping a nuke just because and instead settled on the MOAB to show how tough he was.
that wasn't trumpy, that was the military  :mods trumpy dodged the draft he's against war so much  :dobbs
Title: Re: Is Trump the most peaceful president since Jimmy Carter?
Post by: team filler on September 09, 2020, 08:43:29 AM
https://twitter.com/StarBreaksNews/status/1303628600697131013

https://twitter.com/EmmaParkerUK/status/1303635043772960768


 :playa
Title: Re: Is Trump the most peaceful president since Jimmy Carter?
Post by: Joe Molotov on September 09, 2020, 08:56:03 AM
Quote
A member of the pro-Israel parliamentary caucus Friends of Israel in the Parliament of Norway, Tybring-Gjedde has made appearances in pro-Israel demonstrations, and has criticised Foreign Minister Børge Brende for being "unbalanced" and "naive" in his approach to the conflict in Gaza.[38] He has called for rejecting any pressure to follow Sweden's move in 2014 of recognising Palestine prior to an agreement has been reached between the two parties in the conflict.[39] When Mads Gilbert was denied entry to Gaza through Israel the same year, Tybring-Gjedde voiced his understanding of Israel's decision, stating that the country had the full right to deny Gilbert entrance.[40] His fierce defence of Israel and rhetoric on Islam has led him to be compared to Dutch politician Geert Wilders by the Norwegian Centre Against Racism.

You two should hang out sometime, filler, I think you'd really get along.
Title: Re: Is Trump the most peaceful president since Jimmy Carter?
Post by: Great Rumbler on September 09, 2020, 09:14:20 AM
Didn't realize filler was z i o n i s t.  :kermit
Title: Re: Is Trump the most peaceful president since Jimmy Carter?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on September 09, 2020, 09:20:07 AM
It's hard to know what filler is when dank memes have rotted his soul. 
Title: Re: Is Trump the most peaceful president since Jimmy Carter?
Post by: Pissy F Benny on September 09, 2020, 10:33:42 AM
Make The World Peaceful Again

:trumps :playa :piss :whew :piss2
Title: Re: Is Trump the most peaceful president since Jimmy Carter?
Post by: ToxicAdam on September 09, 2020, 11:33:59 AM
Did the question to the thread ever get answered? I need closure.

Title: Re: Is Trump the most peaceful president since Jimmy Carter?
Post by: Joe Molotov on September 09, 2020, 11:43:20 AM
Did the question to the thread ever get answered? I need closure.

It was answered on the Discord.
Title: Re: Is Trump the most peaceful president since Jimmy Carter?
Post by: BIONIC on September 09, 2020, 11:50:15 AM
Did the question to the thread ever get answered? I need closure.

It was answered on the Discord.

:rage
Title: Re: Is Trump the most peaceful president since Jimmy Carter?
Post by: Nintex on September 09, 2020, 12:16:39 PM
Quote
"Trump has broken a 39-year-old streak of American Presidents either starting a war or bringing the United States an international armed conflict."

Donald the Dove!  :preach


2026

*feeeewwwpp BOOMMMM*

*ratatatata*

"NO we lost jimmy... Jimmy get up please... jimmy....."

"I'm sorry Mike we lost him"

"Noooooo... it's been 4 years... 4 years fighting against Iran.... the last member of my squad.... why tell me... why did we vote against Trump?"

"Well, he was generally a blowhard and insulted women and no one could've predicted Kamala Harris would hire John Bolton"

"Really NO ONE? FUCK"

"Excuse me Mike, I know you are going through a thing right now because you lost your white cis-gendered friend
but we have some audiosensitive people in our tank so please keep down the language yes?"
Title: Re: Is Trump the most peaceful president since Jimmy Carter?
Post by: Nintex on September 09, 2020, 07:14:58 PM
Do you ever feel bad about your posts
When it is over 30 characters and I get less than 4 likes  :fbm
Title: Re: Is Trump the most peaceful president since Jimmy Carter?
Post by: benjipwns on September 10, 2020, 08:00:59 PM
stost explain

https://twitter.com/justinamash/status/1303737162358292481
Title: Re: Is Trump the most peaceful president since Jimmy Carter?
Post by: Nintex on September 12, 2020, 08:53:55 AM
I wonder what type of weapons they are and if Don Jr. will post a selfie at the test site to disclose them and #ownthelibs.
Title: Re: Is Trump the most peaceful president since Jimmy Carter?
Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on September 12, 2020, 01:04:25 PM
Jimmy Carter’s family > Donald Trump’s family

https://mobile.twitter.com/thedailybeast/status/1304538400763113473