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General => The Superdeep Borehole => Topic started by: Transhuman on September 16, 2020, 11:16:36 AM

Title: With the rise in automation and AI do you see a point in doing anything now?
Post by: Transhuman on September 16, 2020, 11:16:36 AM
https://youtu.be/WXuK6gekU1Y

When we rapidly approach the point where A.I. can drive, translate, sort, design, diagnose, teach better than any human, and robotics can farm, cook, build, and fuck better, hasn't life changed in a tectonic way that redefines what it means to live in society where work reaches a point where it's pointless outside of a bare few industries?
Title: Re: With the rise in automation and AI do you see a point in doing anything now?
Post by: tiesto on September 16, 2020, 11:29:14 AM
Well, I'm in the field of accounts payable automation so, so far, yeah...
Title: Re: With the rise in automation and AI do you see a point in doing anything now?
Post by: Crash Dummy on September 17, 2020, 06:48:10 AM
"when"
Title: Re: With the rise in automation and AI do you see a point in doing anything now?
Post by: Don Rumata on September 17, 2020, 07:01:44 AM
Get some UBI going, and i'll be doing that stuff for my own amusement, sounds like heaven.
Title: Re: With the rise in automation and AI do you see a point in doing anything now?
Post by: team filler on September 17, 2020, 07:15:20 AM
what does the ai think?
Title: Re: With the rise in automation and AI do you see a point in doing anything now?
Post by: thisismyusername on September 17, 2020, 07:30:26 AM
Get some UBI going, and i'll be doing that stuff for my own amusement, sounds like heaven.

Exactly. I, for one, welcome our Android future.
Title: Re: With the rise in automation and AI do you see a point in doing anything now?
Post by: Transhuman on September 17, 2020, 07:37:20 AM
Struggle is what gives life meaning and the struggle is coming to an end

Also, even though Lee Sedol says at the end of that documentary that he would keep playing Go, he eventually realised it was pointless now because of A.I and has quit
Title: Re: With the rise in automation and AI do you see a point in doing anything now?
Post by: thisismyusername on September 17, 2020, 08:17:08 AM
Struggle is what gives life meaning and the struggle is coming to an end

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gzh35ADgc64

Also, even though Lee Sedol says at the end of that documentary that he would keep playing Go, he eventually realised it was pointless now because of A.I and has quit

Sounds like a quitter, to be quite honest with you. It'd be like you quitting your terrible stand-up after having the epiphany that you're really not good at it and never getting that Netflix special. :kermit
Title: Re: With the rise in automation and AI do you see a point in doing anything now?
Post by: Transhuman on September 17, 2020, 08:58:03 AM
Nah i'm pretty good. You'll just have to trust me. But the struggle to improve is important to me too, just like any sport/art/hobby/pursuit. The commonality between being a chef or a runner or a musician is that they are always chasing perfection, which is always a satisfying goal because you you can get closer but it's impossible to catch. Sedol realised A.I makes Go as meaningless as tic-tac-to. That's very sad. He not a quitter, he played until the very end.
Title: Re: With the rise in automation and AI do you see a point in doing anything now?
Post by: SmokyDave on September 17, 2020, 10:46:03 AM
"When we rapidly approach the point where A.I. can drive, translate, sort, design, diagnose, teach better than any human, and robotics can farm, cook, build, and fuck better"

I don't believe we're anywhere near this point in any widespread way, nor do I think it's guaranteed that our recent rates of progress in these areas will continue. I don't believe there will be meaningful automation of labour in my lifetime.
Title: Re: With the rise in automation and AI do you see a point in doing anything now?
Post by: ToxicAdam on September 17, 2020, 10:55:41 AM
AI is the flying car of the 60's. It's 'right around the corner" and then 40 years pass and you've seen marginal improvements towards the goal, but it's nowhere near where there futurists envisioned it.

Not diminishing the problems you present, but they're the problems of future generations. So, it's kind of pointless to speculate on a future we won't be a part of.




Title: Re: With the rise in automation and AI do you see a point in doing anything now?
Post by: Joe Molotov on September 17, 2020, 11:18:19 AM
there's no point in doing anything ever
Title: Re: With the rise in automation and AI do you see a point in doing anything now?
Post by: Nintex on September 17, 2020, 11:25:14 AM
We are using AI to better render video games and that is what it has been most successful at so far.

As it stands, AI still needs a human hand to function and work the way it is supposed to.
Computers are still dumb dumb without the right instructions no matter how you much you learn them.

I would say the solution will only be found if we find a different way to give instructions to computers or when computers can create their own instructions.
What we're dong now is learning computers patterns and calling it AI.
Title: Re: With the rise in automation and AI do you see a point in doing anything now?
Post by: Transhuman on September 17, 2020, 12:07:24 PM
We are using AI to better render video games and that is what it has been most successful at so far.

As it stands, AI still needs a human hand to function and work the way it is supposed to.
Computers are still dumb dumb without the right instructions no matter how you much you learn them.

I would say the solution will only be found if we find a different way to give instructions to computers or when computers can create their own instructions.
What we're dong now is learning computers patterns and calling it AI.

AI is just a tool but the way it gets exponentially better and teaches itself to be a better tool is unique. You just wait, one day they'll have the hand dexterity issues solved, the next there will be robotic competors crushing Athletes at sport.