THE BORE
General => Video Game Bored => Topic started by: Tasty on March 12, 2021, 02:19:36 PM
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The Nintendo Switch is the company's greatest system they've ever made.
:miyamoto
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I don't think the library matches up to SNES yet, but as an overall package I agree.
Blending a handheld with a home console was clearly great decision.
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Wii U development continuing to pay dividends. :rejoice
Now we just need to get us on Switch some Etrian Odyssey’s, Rocket Slimes, and Metroids.
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What are some of the must own exclusives that arent on the WiiU?
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I don't think the library matches up to SNES yet, but as an overall package I agree.
Blending a handheld with a home console was clearly great decision.
A handheld whose controls fuck themselves because dust is a shitty handheld.
The Nintendo Switch is the company's greatest system they've ever made.
:miyamoto
Those drifting Joycons made me miss the WiiU. Until they fix that, the Switch to me is worse than a WiiU.
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What are some of the must own exclusives that arent on the WiiU?
Mario Odyssey, [insert indie game here], FE3H if you're a weeb
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What are some of the must own exclusives that arent on the WiiU?
Splatoon 2
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What are some of the must own exclusives that arent on the WiiU?
Mario+Rabbids (not kidding).
Cadence of Hyrule.
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Animal Crossing: New Horizons
Arms
Astral Chain
Bravely Default 2
Clubhouse games
Deadly Premonition 2
Fire Emblem: Three Houses
Ghost n Goblins Resurrection
Golf Story
Hyrule Warriors: Age of Calamity
Luigi's Mansion 3
Mario + Rabbids plus the expansion
Paper Mario: The Origami King
Ring Fit Adventure
Snipperclips
Splatoon 2 plus the expansion
Super Mario Odyssey
Super Smash Bros Ultimate
Link's Awakening Remake
Super Mario 3D All-Stars
Xenoblade Chronicles Definitive Edition are good as well. Not really exclusive though.
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I mean I like it more than Wii U & Wii
I feel like it had more quality software than GC/N64, but I also feel like those systems had more classic amazing original games. Like F-Zero GX, Baten Kaitos 1/2, Pikimin 1/2, Metroid Prime don’t really have non-port equivalents yet. N64 obviously 3d Zelda/Mario/F-zero.
I probably still like SNES & GC best, but maybe after that for my tastes.
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"#1" ::)
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Animal Crossing: New Horizons
Golf Story (?)
Luigi's Mansion 3
Mario + Rabbids plus the expansion
Paper Mario: The Origami King
Super Mario Odyssey
Super Smash Bros Ultimate
Link's Awakening Remake
Ok these are the only ones that interest me, but these are good Nintendo games probably. In the end its mostly whats best on Nintendo systems anyway. Its worth getting the system for but at this point I might as well wait for the Switch Pro or whatever
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It's certainly the best Nintendo system since the SNES... not sure if it outdoes the NES or SNES for me yet.
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What are some of the must own exclusives that arent on the WiiU?
Why must a console be judged by its exclusives? Judge it by its overall experience.
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"#1" ::)
Tasty thinks you actually need to own a Switch be it’s #1 fan.
Typical classist yt ::)
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As the Bore's Nintendo Co., Ltd Ambassador I would like to clarify that all Nintendo products are in fact 'the best' at the moment they were released.
Superseded only by better Nintendo products.
Because Nintendo will exist eternally not a single Nintendo product can ever be considered the best and thus the brand itself is the only entity that exists in the known and unknown universe that is close to perfection.
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Animal Crossing: New Horizons
Golf Story (?)
Luigi's Mansion 3
Mario + Rabbids plus the expansion
Paper Mario: The Origami King
Super Mario Odyssey
Super Smash Bros Ultimate
Link's Awakening Remake
Ok these are the only ones that interest me, but these are good Nintendo games probably. In the end its mostly whats best on Nintendo systems anyway. Its worth getting the system for but at this point I might as well wait for the Switch Pro or whatever
Yeah unless you have a burning desire to play one of these games ASAP, I’d hold off until whatever the next Switch will be is announced and details are out there.
I fucking swear to god if backwards compatibility isn’t there and my digital catalog doesn’t carry over like what happened with Wii U to Switch...
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Did Nintendo's $60,000 shilling check clear?
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The truly funny thing about this is that as the forum's # 1 google fanboi, you'd be MORE RIGHT with a similar thread about Stadia :teehee
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Animal Crossing: New Horizons
Golf Story (?)
Luigi's Mansion 3
Mario + Rabbids plus the expansion
Paper Mario: The Origami King
Super Mario Odyssey
Super Smash Bros Ultimate
Link's Awakening Remake
Ok these are the only ones that interest me, but these are good Nintendo games probably. In the end its mostly whats best on Nintendo systems anyway. Its worth getting the system for but at this point I might as well wait for the Switch Pro or whatever
Yeah unless you have a burning desire to play one of these games ASAP, I’d hold off until whatever the next Switch will be is announced and details are out there.
I fucking swear to god if backwards compatibility isn’t there and my digital catalog doesn’t carry over like what happened with Wii U to Switch...
Wrong, there will be shortages of this new machine so there's no better time than to buy a Switch than today.
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Did Nintendo's $60,000 shilling check clear?
Tasty Meat Defiant! :teehee
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3DS and DS were much much better. The only reason the Switch is so highly regarded is that the other consoles are really dead right now.
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Gamecube was better
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DS
Switch
SNES
The rest
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Did Nintendo's $60,000 shilling check clear?
Don't hate the playa hate the game :trumps
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"#1" ::)
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What are some of the must own exclusives that arent on the WiiU?
Why must a console be judged by it's exclusives? Judge it by its overall experience.
For a Nintendo system thats mostly what im gonna be interested in tbh
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What are some of the must own exclusives that arent on the WiiU?
Why must a console be judged by its exclusives? Judge it by its overall experience.
Switch ain't winning that one then.
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It's a great system.
I doubt it'll top the sheer quality of the SNES or the experimentation of the DS, though. It'll be a solid #3, honestly that's good enough.
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What are some of the must own exclusives that arent on the WiiU?
Why must a console be judged by its exclusives? Judge it by its overall experience.
Switch ain't winning that one then.
By overall experiences, the 3Ds reigns supreme. I’m surprised in how little effort Nintendo is putting in the user experience and other features for the console on the Switch, their focus seem to be in the Virtual Console service and the dying online Apps.
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I think DS had the most creative output but in retrospect a lot of the games suck and I'd never touch them today. It's just way too tech limited and anything 3d on DS is fucking gross. I feel like the Layton games, 999 and Ouendan are some of the only DS games that still hold up.
3DS might've had a softer library in originality but I'm playing DQVIIr 3DS now and enjoying it just fine in terms of the 3d holding up. I also play FF Theaterhythm here and there and it holds up fine.
I think can just admit that every Nintendo system has its charm outside Wii U, which still had a dozen good games, but just too short of lifespan to be interesting.
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Don't you rarely replay games though? Are you going on instinct (how you feel it might be the case) or fact?
As for ds 3d there's always emulation.
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What are some of the must own exclusives that arent on the WiiU?
Why must a console be judged by its exclusives? Judge it by its overall experience.
Switch ain't winning that one then.
The fact that I can start a game on the TV, pick it up and play on the couch away from the TV, move to my bed and then go back to the TV later on says Switch wins hands down against ANY console I've ever played since the Atari 2600
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:snore
:goty remembering they once did hardcore games like Fzero GX, Prime, Wave Race and Eternal Darkness plus moneyhats like Resident Evil and Rogue Squadron between all the predictable mascot and pedo weeb content, so the output wouldn't become stale. With the best graphics of the time. Or when a lacklustre DS 1st party output was completely compensated and beyond by an onslought of 3rd party exclusives. But then again, that's why fanboys are the worst judges even for the things they shill. Downplay true classics to hype whatever their chosen company does at the moment.
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It's probably my favorite Nintendo console. Also did hit a sweet spot with me though, when I was often not at home, so it is pretty perfect for me. The custom firmware helps too.
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Don't you rarely replay games though? Are you going on instinct (how you feel it might be the case) or fact?
As for ds 3d there's always emulation.
What are some good 3d ds games that still would hold up today?
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:snore
:goty remembering they once did hardcore games like Fzero GX, Prime, Wave Race and Eternal Darkness plus moneyhats like Resident Evil and Rogue Squadron between all the predictable mascot and pedo weeb content, so the output wouldn't become stale. With the best graphics of the time. Or when a lacklustre DS 1st party output was completely compensated and beyond by an onslought of 3rd party exclusives. But then again, that's why fanboys are the worst judges even for the things they shill. Downplay true classics to hype whatever their chosen company does at the moment.
Using terms like these pretty much invalidates your opinion for me. I'm multiplatform and have been for decades. I don't "shill" for anybody. The Switch is what I've wanted since I got a GameBoy way back when. Nintendo delivered it and I love it.
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What are some of the must own exclusives that arent on the WiiU?
Why must a console be judged by its exclusives? Judge it by its overall experience.
Switch ain't winning that one then.
The fact that I can start a game on the TV, pick it up and play on the couch away from the TV, move to my bed and then go back to the TV later on says Switch wins hands down against ANY console I've ever played since the Atari 2600
Until your joycon drifts...
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What are some of the must own exclusives that arent on the WiiU?
Why must a console be judged by its exclusives? Judge it by its overall experience.
Switch ain't winning that one then.
The fact that I can start a game on the TV, pick it up and play on the couch away from the TV, move to my bed and then go back to the TV later on says Switch wins hands down against ANY console I've ever played since the Atari 2600
Until your joycon drifts...
I own 4 sets of joycons. 1 set drifts...a little. My kids have used and abused them though. Plenty of other options out there if you want though.
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What are some of the must own exclusives that arent on the WiiU?
Why must a console be judged by its exclusives? Judge it by its overall experience.
Switch ain't winning that one then.
The fact that I can start a game on the TV, pick it up and play on the couch away from the TV, move to my bed and then go back to the TV later on says Switch wins hands down against ANY console I've ever played since the Atari 2600
Until your joycon drifts...
I own 4 sets of joycons. 1 set drifts...a little. My kids have used and abused them though. Plenty of other options out there if you want though.
Lucky you. But keep eyes on that set because it’s going to get worse. Mines drift like there is no tomorrow and also started with small drifts. I can’t afford to replace them right now with first party ones, using the ProController.
This console is not a handheld.
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What are some of the must own exclusives that arent on the WiiU?
Why must a console be judged by its exclusives? Judge it by its overall experience.
Switch ain't winning that one then.
The fact that I can start a game on the TV, pick it up and play on the couch away from the TV, move to my bed and then go back to the TV later on says Switch wins hands down against ANY console I've ever played since the Atari 2600
Until your joycon drifts...
I own 4 sets of joycons. 1 set drifts...a little. My kids have used and abused them though. Plenty of other options out there if you want though.
Lucky you. But keep eyes on that set because it’s going to get worse. Mines drift like there is no tomorrow and also started with small drifts. I can’t afford to replace them right now with first party ones, using the ProController.
This console is not a handheld.
Yet I have used it handheld for probably 70% of the time...
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What are some of the must own exclusives that arent on the WiiU?
Why must a console be judged by its exclusives? Judge it by its overall experience.
Switch ain't winning that one then.
The fact that I can start a game on the TV, pick it up and play on the couch away from the TV, move to my bed and then go back to the TV later on says Switch wins hands down against ANY console I've ever played since the Atari 2600
Until your joycon drifts...
I own 4 sets of joycons. 1 set drifts...a little. My kids have used and abused them though. Plenty of other options out there if you want though.
Lucky you. But keep eyes on that set because it’s going to get worse. Mines drift like there is no tomorrow and also started with small drifts. I can’t afford to replace them right now with first party ones, using the ProController.
This console is not a handheld.
Yet I have used it handheld for probably 70% of the time...
I used it like you until it started to drift. My 3Ds, Vita and DS work just fine.
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The drift is really shit, but at least you can replace them. I remember using a broken psp nub for like 5 years :-\
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Don't you rarely replay games though? Are you going on instinct (how you feel it might be the case) or fact?
As for ds 3d there's always emulation.
What are some good 3d ds games that still would hold up today?
I think this is the wrong question you should be asking. The Nintendo DS was mostly made for its hardware. The games don't look nice but I guarantee they're killer. Games like Dragonball Origins and Ninja Gaiden DS are great. Bringing up 3D games no sense because I guarantee the 3d games it does have aren't trying to be 3d console games.
So am I correct in that this is a feeling, and not observational fact? You talk about 3D when a lot of the best games like TWEWY or Ghost Truck aren't even 3d. Nintendo DS is a top 5 system, 3d or not.
https://youtu.be/iT7Y7aWjtDI
https://youtu.be/J-vyGQO6ea8
https://youtu.be/LfioFxOEHKA
https://youtu.be/0Fn_CcWgDu4
https://youtu.be/c51m5pKPEl0
Good Lord I love this system.
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I do try to mess with DS games from my large DS library occasionally, but outside the Layton stuff and some good 2d stuff like Contra 4 I can't deal with it.
The 3d quality is worse than PS1/N64/Saturn which is like wowowwwww. It's just too damn low tech that I can't enjoy 3d games on DS even on an emulator. Saga 2 in your vids is a good example. Not only is the 3d rough but the framerates are really rough for 3d games.
PSP 3d? Still pretty bad, just about PS1 level where only the best of the best hold up like Metal Gear Ac!d/Peace Walker/God of War games.
Now Vita/3DS? Still pretty ugly but can still enjoy the low poly 3d stuff.
Now 2d games, sure? Although I think the DS screen itself is just too small to enjoy even 2d games anymore. Even the launch 3DS screens feel too small these days. I replaced both my USA and JP 3DS with the XL versions because of that.
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Again, emulate.
Go throughout this thread and see the tech evolve. The problem with nds is resolution which emulation entirely fixes.
https://www.neogaf.com/threads/nintendo-ds-games-in-hd.798812/
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I vehemently disagree that ds games haven't "aged well" especially regarding graphics - they never looked good, and nobody cared at the time either. I seriously do not care about graphics but I have supplied emulated examples of higher res. graphics since it means so much.
I promise that if you can get past the graphics that the DS has one of the widest sleections of creative output ever made for a system. I sometimes consider it on par or even better than the SNES or PS2 because of the sheer amount of ideas they tried for it. All that in a tiny little system with a drawing app in it. DS fucking owns. Speaking of which, I need a new DS lite.
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Tbf its way more fun playing a DS or 3DS game on its original hardware than emulating it on pc imo.
Yeah the game looks like ass but its still a more tactile experience
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I agree. But I am debating bebpo's protestations that the DS isn't good because of graphics, which emulation fixes.
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In any case, Switch has a lot of work to do before it's Nintendo's best system. They have to bring their A game to other key franchises besides Mario and Zelda, for one. On SNES, their best system, Nintendo brought it across their entire library of games from Mario to Metroid. They brought in Rare to make a new Donkey Kong platforming series, made classic RPGs like Mother 2/Earthbound. Switch has some classics but it's mostly BOTW and Mario Odyssey propping everything else up while the third party does most of the work. Much of their releases have been outright Wii U ports. It's a great system, but what, exactly, are its claims to best Nintendo system, in a real way, beyond fun water cooler chat? Don't get me wrong as the potential is there in order for switch to be the best it needs to show more originality and more quality. Where's Mario Kart 9? Where's a top tier nintendo rpg? Where's Metroid?
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A majority of DS essentials have an inoffensive mix of 2D and little 3D anyway. Bowser's Story, all Castlevania, Sonic Rush, 999, Ninja Gaiden (prerendered), Ghost Trick, Contra, Legend of Kage, Tetris, Space Invaders, World Ends With You... I guess Square Enix big IP was one of the outliers and a few others like GTA.
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And games like Okamiden look great too.
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The SNES is an interesting one. Let's look at it from a US/EU perspective how it evolved.
I've tried to compare a random 25 Best SNES Games list with Switch releases. Of course there's some apples and oranges.
For example Contra was the popular hardcore shoot bang thing and now DOOM is.
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles IV: Turtles in Time >> Marvel Ultimate Alliance
Harvest Moon >> Animal Crossing
Super Mario All-Stars >> Super Mario 3D All Stars
F-Zero >> FAST RMX
Contra III: The Alien Wars >> DOOM Eternal
Secret of Mana >> Dragon Quest XI
Super Mario Kart >> Mario Kart 8 Deluxe
ActRaiser(quintet RPG's) >> Xenoblade Series
Street Fighter II >> ??
Super Castlevania IV >> Dark Souls Remastered
Donkey Kong Country 2 >> Donkey Kong Country: Tropical Freeze
NBA Jam >> Splatoon 2
Tetris Attack >> Puyo Puyo Tetris
Super Punch-Out!! >> ARMS
Kirby Super Star >> Super Smash Bros.
Final Fantasy II >> Octopath Traveler
Super Mario RPG >> Mario + Rabbids Kingdom Battle
Mega Man X >> Bayonetta 2
EarthBound >> Undertale
Super Mario World 2: Yoshi’s Island >> Super Mario Odyssey
Final Fantasy III >> Bravely Default 2
Super Mario World >> Super Mario 3D World + Bowsers Fury
Chrono Trigger >> Fire Emblem: Three Houses
The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past >> Breath of the Wild
Super Metroid >> ??
The Switch also has its fair share of quirky and experimental games like the SNES such as Star Fox and Astral Chain.
I would say the Switch is about equal or has just passed the SNES. You have to take into account that the SNES didn't get most of its best games (Chrono Trigger, Terranigma, Mario RPG, Super Metroid, DKC2, Harvest Moon) until 1994 - 1997.
The first 2 years of Switch is no contest compared to the SNES. It really depends on what Nintendo's drops in the latter half of the Switch generation and how the pandemic has an impact on that.
If they manage to get out Metroid Prime 4, BOTW2, Bayo 3, Splatoon 3 and drop another Xenoblade, Fire Emblem plus revive F-Zero or Earthbound in some fashion next to the usual Mario Sports and mascot platform games (DK/Yoshi etc.)
SNES will be left in the dust by the end of 2022. And that's not even counting the yet to be released indie or third party games. The big missing pieces at this time are Metroid and fighting games.
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Notice how you directly compare a lot of snes exclusives to games like Doom Eternal, DQXI, and Undertale which aren't exclusive to Switch? That's precisely why Switch isn't as good as SNES and also kind of undoes your own argument. Then there's the fact you listed multiple ports like DKCTF and Mario Kart 8 which lowers the your switch list even further. Even more telling is when you compare entire series. You list FE 3H but SNES had three? Four? Fire Emblems? Is 3H as good as FE3? 4?
Switch is a great system but you're grasping at straws putting it on par with the super nintendo and list wars won't solve that. Switch needs far more time to be even able to be in the same discussion as SNES much less the DS but that's my opinion. Thankfully Nintendo agrees and aren't ending the Switch any time soon. With longer development cycles it's pretty hard to take seriously the idea Switch could even possibly be in the same discussion as the Super Nintendo and I don't see why it even needs to be better than the SNES to be a great system.
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Like, dark souls remastered is a legit example as to why the switch is on par with the snes? A ten year old game? Lol ok.
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If Dark Souls 1 and Doom make you better than SNES, what does that make all those platforms that run them better and also offer a multitude of sequels and genre equivalents? :rogan lol Undertale.
Nintendo isn't where you are going for multiplats as the main attraction, unless they have the best versions like on Gamecube. Or at the very least, not be ten years late.
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Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles IV: Turtles in Time >> Marvel Ultimate Alliance
Contra III: The Alien Wars >> DOOM Eternal
Secret of Mana >> Dragon Quest XI
ActRaiser(quintet RPG's) >> Xenoblade Series
Super Castlevania IV >> Dark Souls Remastered
NBA Jam >> Splatoon 2
Tetris Attack >> Puyo Puyo Tetris
Super Punch-Out!! >> ARMS
Kirby Super Star >> Super Smash Bros.
Super Mario RPG >> Mario + Rabbids Kingdom Battle
Mega Man X >> Bayonetta 2
Chrono Trigger >> Fire Emblem: Three Houses
genres, how do they work
:brain
What kind of comparisons are these? :lol
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The Switch just shits all over anything with the name "Wii" in the title and I really like the system, but I don't know if I'd call it the best Nintendo console. It is their best console released in the past 20 years, IMO. It's a fantastic platform and I play it way, way more than my PS4.
Nintendo isn't where you are going for multiplats as the main attraction, unless they have the best versions like on Gamecube. Or at the very least, not be ten years late.
It is if you want portable versions of these games.
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What would make it the GOAT is a unified digital library of all Nintendo exclusives (and some third party games) from NES to Wii-U. This won't happen due to releasing ports for full price makes way too much money.
This is genuinely a problem with Japanese publishers in general though. Konami could've released MGS 1-3 on a hundred different platforms by now, but risk aversion has a death grip on older games being officially supported on more platforms.
So far, Microsoft is the only console manufacturer/publisher that has unified their entire platform.
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It is if you want portable versions of these games.
Then a significantly higher portion of these ports needed to be much more current. Excluding single-system-sluts, you don't wait out on games that interest you for a decade in hopes that one day they could come out on a more powerful Gameboy. And even if you were inclined to make your fifth replay of Dark Souls on Switch for a change, in the future you won't remember it as a great Switch game. It will always be a PS360 title.
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It is if you want portable versions of these games.
Then a significantly higher portion of these ports needed to be much more current. Excluding one-system-manbabies, you don't wait out on games that interest you for a decade in hopes that one day they could come out on a more powerful Gameboy. And even if you were inclined to make your fifth replay of Dark Souls on Switch for a change, in the future you won't remember it as a great Switch game. Because it's a PS360 game.
There's plenty of 'current' ports on the system, too. The amount of games available for the Switch is not one of its problems.
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What would make it the GOAT is a unified digital library of all Nintendo exclusives (and some third party games) from NES to Wii-U. This won't happen due to releasing ports for full price makes way too much money.
This is genuinely a problem with Japanese publishers in general though. Konami could've released MGS 1-3 on a hundred different platforms by now, but risk aversion has a death grip on older games being officially supported on more platforms.
So far, Microsoft is the only console manufacturer/publisher that has unified their entire platform.
There's also the half assing. Like they really released Mario 64 and didn't give it a new camera or anything in 2020.
It's amazing how Nintendo treats its earlier 3d efforts. They have Mario 64 ds and the OoT 3ds remake and I doubt the OoT switch release will have the features of the 3ds version nor look as good.
Wii U did a good job unifying their systems by including gamecube, gba; etc. Games on the virtual console but yeah. Switch, today, still doesn't even let you play n64 games.
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What would make it the GOAT is a unified digital library of all Nintendo exclusives (and some third party games) from NES to Wii-U. This won't happen due to releasing ports for full price makes way too much money.
This is genuinely a problem with Japanese publishers in general though. Konami could've released MGS 1-3 on a hundred different platforms by now, but risk aversion has a death grip on older games being officially supported on more platforms.
So far, Microsoft is the only console manufacturer/publisher that has unified their entire platform.
There's also the half assing. Like they really released Mario 64 and didn't give it a new camera or anything in 2020.
It seems like they really rushed that collection out, and I don't understand why. I also don't understand what the point of making it a limited release, even on the eShop, is.
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What would make it the GOAT is a unified digital library of all Nintendo exclusives (and some third party games) from NES to Wii-U. This won't happen due to releasing ports for full price makes way too much money.
This is genuinely a problem with Japanese publishers in general though. Konami could've released MGS 1-3 on a hundred different platforms by now, but risk aversion has a death grip on older games being officially supported on more platforms.
So far, Microsoft is the only console manufacturer/publisher that has unified their entire platform.
There's also the half assing. Like they really released Mario 64 and didn't give it a new camera or anything in 2020.
It seems like they really rushed that collection out, and I don't understand why. I also don't understand what the point of making it a limited release, even on the eShop, is.
Limited scarcity to build hype. Just laziness and greed.
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What would make it the GOAT is a unified digital library of all Nintendo exclusives (and some third party games) from NES to Wii-U. This won't happen due to releasing ports for full price makes way too much money.
This is genuinely a problem with Japanese publishers in general though. Konami could've released MGS 1-3 on a hundred different platforms by now, but risk aversion has a death grip on older games being officially supported on more platforms.
So far, Microsoft is the only console manufacturer/publisher that has unified their entire platform.
There's also the half assing. Like they really released Mario 64 and didn't give it a new camera or anything in 2020.
It seems like they really rushed that collection out, and I don't understand why. I also don't understand what the point of making it a limited release, even on the eShop, is.
Limited scarcity to build hype. Just laziness and greed.
But it's MARIO. It doesn't need hype! :dizzy
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Seriously though, can we talk about comparing NBA Jam with Splatoon 2? WTF?
:rofl
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What would make it the GOAT is a unified digital library of all Nintendo exclusives (and some third party games) from NES to Wii-U. This won't happen due to releasing ports for full price makes way too much money.
This is genuinely a problem with Japanese publishers in general though. Konami could've released MGS 1-3 on a hundred different platforms by now, but risk aversion has a death grip on older games being officially supported on more platforms.
So far, Microsoft is the only console manufacturer/publisher that has unified their entire platform.
There's also the half assing. Like they really released Mario 64 and didn't give it a new camera or anything in 2020.
It seems like they really rushed that collection out, and I don't understand why. I also don't understand what the point of making it a limited release, even on the eShop, is.
Limited scarcity to build hype. Just laziness and greed.
But it's MARIO. It doesn't need hype! :dizzy
Hence greed
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Seriously though, can we talk about comparing NBA Jam with Splatoon 2? WTF?
:rofl
NBA Jam was an arcade take on a popular genre at the time focused on multiplayer (Sports).
Splatoon 2 is an arcade take on a popular genre at the time focused on multiplayer (Shooting).
Super Castlevania IV was in a way a remake of the first Castlevania.
I would say the closest thing we have to the Castlevania games (always known for their high difficulty) are the 'souls' games.
Like I said, it's apples and oranges because there has been in a change in popular genres and game studios.
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yamauchi never would have allowed for some of this chit :tocry
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All lists of "best [insert whatever] ever!" are inherently subjective and valid for whoever is making them. In my head I just add "for me, Tasty the ninthing/googlething" or whatever as appropriate whenever I see any of these.
Having said that, it's interesting to see how different people weigh different factors in determining stuff. Like, I hate handhelds so the fact that Switch is portable is completely irrelevant to me but so many of you care about it for whatever reason.
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What would make it the GOAT is a unified digital library of all Nintendo exclusives (and some third party games) from NES to Wii-U. This won't happen due to releasing ports for full price makes way too much money.
Wii 15 years ago offered NES, SNES and N64 games on day1. Mario64 was significantly cheaper to get than it is now. They localized games like Sin & Punishment for the first time, while they were at it. Added MegaDrive, NeoGeo, TurboGrafx/PC Engine and others. Realistically, if they continued from there, they'd have a huge Virtual Console by now - from all generations. But Nintendo mostly works backwards, so currently they have their weakest Virtual Console to date. :doge And why not, when manchildren sperge over a fullpriced Skyward Sword port dump as summer season's big release.
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All lists of "best [insert whatever] ever!" are inherently subjective and valid for whoever is making them. In my head I just add "for me, Tasty the ninthing/googlething" or whatever as appropriate whenever I see any of these.
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#1 :doge
I don't get the console I guess. seems solidly middle of the road.
I don't care about portability, smash and animal crossing don't really resonate with me, I didn't get that into splatoon and I still haven't finished odyssey. I think nearly every other Nintendo console I've ever purchased (snes, gc, wii, wii u) had released more games in its first 3/4 years that resonated with me than this. not even considering handheld here.
snes and gc are both comfortably better in terms of creativity and great software. can see switch catching up, but at the moment it ain't got it. its just port city
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All lists of "best [insert whatever] ever!" are inherently subjective and valid for whoever is making them. In my head I just add "for me, Tasty the ninthing/googlething" or whatever as appropriate whenever I see any of these.
Having said that, it's interesting to see how different people weigh different factors in determining stuff. Like, I hate handhelds so the fact that Switch is portable is completely irrelevant to me but so many of you care about it for whatever reason.
I do not own a tv. The only reason I've been able to play video games the past few months is the Switch.
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I play Switch docked on my LG OLED :lawd
For me there's enough Switch games to keep me busy but it'll depend on the rest of this year and next year where this thing will end on the Nintendo tier list.
Overall I just love the Pro Controller, short loading times and fast UI. Nintendo could've done better though, the first 2 years were just one release after the other and after they delayed Fire Emblem things significantly slowed down.
I hope they get back on a roll with Splatoon 3, Metroid Prime 4, Bayo 3 and BOTW 2. But it has also been 3 years since games like Kirby Star Allies came out. Not to mention the growing list of untouched IP's like Golden Sun, Donkey Kong and Star Fox.
So either they're dragging their feet because sales are this good or they're doing more than just direct sequels to their 1st and 2nd batch of Switch games.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JwrrwSmo0yU
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Seriously though, can we talk about comparing NBA Jam with Splatoon 2? WTF?
:rofl
NBA Jam was an arcade take on a popular genre at the time focused on multiplayer (Sports).
Splatoon 2 is an arcade take on a popular genre at the time focused on multiplayer (Shooting).
That is the broadest description ever. The two games are absolutely nothing alike. Nor would I call Splatoon "arcade" anything.
This is like comparing Mario 64 with Resident Evil. Nobody would do th--
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7f8ht4AZ7sg
:awesome
Super Castlevania IV was in a way a remake of the first Castlevania.
I would say the closest thing we have to the Castlevania games (always known for their high difficulty) are the 'souls' games.
:mindblown
Bloodstained is the apt comparison to Castlevania, not Dark Souls. :dizzy Circle Of The Moon 1 and 2 are the platform-style CVs and Ritual Of The Night is the SOTN analogue.
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#1 :doge
I don't get the console I guess. seems solidly middle of the road.
I don't care about portability, smash and animal crossing don't really resonate with me, I didn't get that into splatoon and I still haven't finished odyssey. I think nearly every other Nintendo console I've ever purchased (snes, gc, wii, wii u) had released more games in its first 3/4 years that resonated with me than this. not even considering handheld here.
snes and gc are both comfortably better in terms of creativity and great software. can see switch catching up, but at the moment it ain't got it. its just port city
Switch is my favourite Nintendo console since the SNES, but that's partly because I never owned a Wii U (or Wii for that matter). I can't deny that this would be a much worse experience if I had owned a Wii U. Like 70% percent of my boxed games are Wii U/Wii ports or at least had a similar version on Wii U. The Wii U ports generally also seem to be better games than the new original Switch games.
We'll see what Nintendo has in store for the next 2-3 years. One would hope with how much they relied on ports in the first 4 years that they still have some cards close to their chest. Although I kinda fear that save for Botw 2 and Metroid Prime 4 (if Retro gets their shit together) we won't see that many ambitious games. System and games seem to sell like hotcakes anyway so Nintendo probably doesn't even care.
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i think i own more physical wii u games than switch :p i bought it late in the gen though when switch had just released and everything was (relatively) cheap
i got bayo and bayo 2, xeno x, 3d world, botw, smash (my friends dig it, bought the switch version for the same reason), smb u, mk8, dkc tropical freeze, zombi u, ww hd. it's a good console to have around, being able to hack it easily means you'll always have a console able to play gc and wii and have access to all the virtual console titles even if nintendo shut down access from their digital storefront. wii u rules.
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The SNES was absolutely ridiculous concerning it's library of games. I like the Switch, but I don't think I could say it's better and keep a straight face. Maybe if you weren't old enough during that period of time to remember just how dominant it was then maybe it's different.
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Seriously though, can we talk about comparing NBA Jam with Splatoon 2? WTF?
:rofl
NBA Jam was an arcade take on a popular genre at the time focused on multiplayer (Sports).
Splatoon 2 is an arcade take on a popular genre at the time focused on multiplayer (Shooting).
That is the broadest description ever. The two games are absolutely nothing alike. Nor would I call Splatoon "arcade" anything.
This is like comparing Mario 64 with Resident Evil. Nobody would do th--
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7f8ht4AZ7sg
:awesome
Super Castlevania IV was in a way a remake of the first Castlevania.
I would say the closest thing we have to the Castlevania games (always known for their high difficulty) are the 'souls' games.
:mindblown
Bloodstained is the apt comparison to Castlevania, not Dark Souls. :dizzy Circle Of The Moon 1 and 2 are the platform-style CVs and Ritual Of The Night is the SOTN analogue.
Different type of game. Like I said, apples and oranges.
Bloodstained is an indie game, not as popular as Castlevania was at the time. Which was the medieval fantasy hardcore action game. Now that torch has passed to the Souls like games.
Again, not a 1:1 comparison that I was looking to do. Some genres didn't exist on the SNES and some genres don't exist anymore on the Switch.
So really it's about being a consumer walking into a videogame store and trying to find a game.
What would a clone of someone who would buy Castlevania in 1992 purchase in 2021 that is of similar quality and popularity. I would say Dark Souls is quite an accurate guess of the type of game they would pick.
A parent looking to buy a licensed game probably bought Turtles back in the day. Now they would pick Disney/Marvel.
That makes the list difficult but also interesting. I mean, maybe the 'new' Donkey Kong Country is actually Splatoon and the 'new' NBA Jam is Smash Bros. .
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Different type of game. Like I said, apples and oranges.
Bloodstained is an indie game, not as popular as Castlevania was at the time. Which was the medieval fantasy hardcore action game. Now that torch has passed to the Souls like games.
...NO. Just...no. :lol "medieval fantasy hardcore action game" doesn't describe Castlevania. You just described Ghouls N' Ghosts. :doge
and some genres don't exist anymore on the Switch.
NO. What are you talking about? :dizzy
So really it's about being a consumer walking into a videogame store and trying to find a game.
What would a clone of someone who would buy Castlevania in 1992 purchase in 2021 that is of similar quality and popularity. I would say Dark Souls is quite an accurate guess of the type of game they would pick.
...They would go buy Bloodstained. Probably from the eShop since this is 2021 and people can buy games online. They can also go google to find out about the kind of games they might like. Then they might find that there's a Castlevania collection available and just get that.
A parent looking to buy a licensed game probably bought Turtles back in the day. Now they would pick Disney/Marvel.
Yes, in that sense. But they would go buy whatever the hell was popular that their kid likes. Might still be Spongebob. Regardless, you can keep trying to swing as "apples and oranges," but somebody looking for a straight up beat-em-up is not going to go get Marvel Ultimate Alliance with the likes of Streets Of Rage 4, Fight 'N Rage, The Takeover, and others exist.
That makes the list difficult but also interesting. I mean, maybe the 'new' Donkey Kong Country is actually Splatoon and the 'new' NBA Jam is Smash Bros. .
:mindblown
WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? :dizzy
The big 'new' platformer would be Mario Odyssey. Smash Bros. would be the replacement for Street Fighter. Learn what genres are.
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But is Halo guy a kid or a squid now?