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General => Video Game Bored => Topic started by: mormapope on February 01, 2022, 12:34:32 PM

Title: Yakuza vs. Final Fantasy
Post by: mormapope on February 01, 2022, 12:34:32 PM
This is actually a pretty easy question, it's Yakuza.  :-*
Title: Re: Yakuza vs. Final Fantasy
Post by: tiesto on February 01, 2022, 12:46:32 PM
I've played all except the online FFs and only played Like A Dragon so I'm not really equipped to answer but Yak seems like it would be a lot more consistent.

DQ vs FF would be a better (although completely one sided) match for consistency.

Another interesting thread would be... which long-lived series is the most consistent? DQ, Ys, Yakuza are potentials for that one.
Title: Re: Yakuza vs. Final Fantasy
Post by: demi on February 01, 2022, 01:17:21 PM
I'd say Final Fantasy personally

If you asked any generic Yakuza normie, they'd reply "Just play 0 and dont bother with the rest"

You ask any generic Final Fantasy normie they'd reply "Oh man, final fantasy 6, final fantasy 4, final fantasy 7, god there's so much to pick"
Title: Re: Yakuza vs. Final Fantasy
Post by: Akala on February 01, 2022, 02:02:00 PM
I love Yak but it can get a bit samey, actually plan on giving LaD a spin soon.

FF rocks, giant and sprawling and gets my vote overall.
Title: Re: Yakuza vs. Final Fantasy
Post by: Bebpo on February 01, 2022, 03:00:02 PM
FF, but Yakuza series is great.
Title: Re: Yakuza vs. Final Fantasy
Post by: Himu on February 01, 2022, 03:50:01 PM
Wtf kinda question
Title: Re: Yakuza vs. Final Fantasy
Post by: Rahxephon91 on February 01, 2022, 04:06:36 PM
This is a pretty bad comparison honestly. Both series just occupy such different areas.
Title: Re: Yakuza vs. Final Fantasy
Post by: tiesto on February 01, 2022, 04:10:23 PM
Is there any game series that differs so much between core entries as FF does? Mario maybe?

This is a pretty bad comparison honestly. Both series just occupy such different areas.

The funny thing is you tell people in the late 2000s that in the late 2010s, Yakuza would be turn based and FF would be action and they'd laugh at you.
Title: Re: Yakuza vs. Final Fantasy
Post by: Nintex on February 01, 2022, 05:03:44 PM
Square Enix is the better buy  ;)
Title: Re: Yakuza vs. Final Fantasy
Post by: mormapope on February 01, 2022, 05:14:08 PM
It's a worthwhile and meaningful comparison because the franchise that gets a shoestring budget in comparison along with a lot less development time between entries, is somehow better as a whole versus a franchise that gulps down money, time, different producers or directors, and is wildly inconsistent between every entry.

Title: Re: Yakuza vs. Final Fantasy
Post by: Rahxephon91 on February 01, 2022, 06:12:17 PM
Better is your opinion.

But you just said why it’s a terrible comparison.

One is on a yearly schedule almost. Has less ambition. Has no problem re-using content adnausem to achieve that release schedule. And also probably has entire different set of standards and goals it tries to meet for fans and for the development size.

The other positions its main series a as big unique experience and production. Each game is basically a new AAA jrpg, with some offering unique visions from the different development teams.

They are different beasts. This comparison is really pointless beyond trying to say “my preferred series is better than yours”. Beyond the joke that the previous games had rpg like presentation, they weren’t really rpgs and instead urban brawlers. So why even put them up against FF?

You want to compare this to something comparable to FF then compare it to XIV which as a whole is better than any Yakuza game.

I’ve played them all since the 1st on PS2. 3 is pretty long and boring. So are 5 and 6. Not interested in the rpg ones. It’s hardly some untouchable series despite the Jonny come latleys who discovers 0.
Title: Re: Yakuza vs. Final Fantasy
Post by: bork on February 01, 2022, 06:38:48 PM
Yakuza Like A Dragon is a more appealing game to me than any Final Fantasy.

https://youtu.be/QDVe7oYGndY

But the FF games are more varied, this one aside.
Title: Re: Yakuza vs. Final Fantasy
Post by: mormapope on February 01, 2022, 07:09:59 PM
Better is your opinion.

But you just said why it’s a terrible comparison.

One is on a yearly schedule almost. Has less ambition. Has no problem re-using content adnausem to achieve that release schedule. And also probably has entire different set of standards and goals it tries to meet for fans and for the development size.

The other positions its main series a as big unique experience and production. Each game is basically a new AAA jrpg, with some offering unique visions from the different development teams.

They are different beasts. This comparison is really pointless beyond trying to say “my preferred series is better than yours”. Beyond the joke that the previous games had rpg like presentation, they weren’t really rpgs and instead urban brawlers. So why even put them up against FF?

You want to compare this to something comparable to FF then compare it to XIV which as a whole is better than any Yakuza game.

I’ve played them all since the 1st on PS2. 3 is pretty long and boring. So are 5 and 6. Not interested in the rpg ones. It’s hardly some untouchable series despite the Jonny come latleys who discovers 0.

I don't know what point you're trying to make besides belly aching about the thread existing. For someone that rags on people here for being negative and stifling conversation, you seem to be the king of poo poo posting mister.
Title: Re: Yakuza vs. Final Fantasy
Post by: Rahxephon91 on February 01, 2022, 07:12:55 PM
The point was clear. These two series are very different and it’s very random and stupid to compare them.

What part didn’t you get?
Title: Re: Yakuza vs. Final Fantasy
Post by: Himu on February 01, 2022, 07:31:43 PM
So when you say Final Fantasy you really mean modern Final Fantasy as opposed the legacy of the Final Fantasy franchise as a whole.

Okay. I go with Yakuza then.
Title: Re: Yakuza vs. Final Fantasy
Post by: Pissy F Benny on February 02, 2022, 12:35:06 PM
Final Fantasy could take lessons from Like a Dragon on how to make turn based combat look dynamic and cool for future entries.
Title: Re: Yakuza vs. Final Fantasy
Post by: Rahxephon91 on February 02, 2022, 03:23:32 PM
Is Like A Dragon even good? It looks really lame(the characters and so on) and full of the goofy stuff I dont like about the Yakuza games.
Title: Re: Yakuza vs. Final Fantasy
Post by: demi on February 02, 2022, 03:43:39 PM
Yes, it's very good
Title: Re: Yakuza vs. Final Fantasy
Post by: tiesto on February 02, 2022, 03:49:14 PM
Is Like A Dragon even good? It looks really lame(the characters and so on) and full of the goofy stuff I dont like about the Yakuza games.

I've had more fun with it than any FF since 9.
I love the minigames and such, but the game is pretty tongue and cheek and goofy at parts (especially in the side content).
Biggest issues I had with it were some pathfinding issues in battle when the characters were running to attack enemies around the corner or down the street, a few difficulty spikes, and the job system feeling pretty under-utilized.
Title: Re: Yakuza vs. Final Fantasy
Post by: Pissy F Benny on February 02, 2022, 04:11:42 PM
Is Like A Dragon even good? It looks really lame(the characters and so on) and full of the goofy stuff I dont like about the Yakuza games.

it's the best yakuza game hands down, you just need to try it and give it a chance.
Title: Re: Yakuza vs. Final Fantasy
Post by: Rufus on February 03, 2022, 06:38:00 AM
Is Like A Dragon even good? It looks really lame(the characters and so on) and full of the goofy stuff I dont like about the Yakuza games.
Yes, but it is probably the goofiest game in the series.
Title: Re: Yakuza vs. Final Fantasy
Post by: remy on February 03, 2022, 07:20:23 AM
Feel like even the ff devs are aware of yakuza's greatness/ffness judging by some of the very yakuza quests ive done in endwalker
Title: Re: Yakuza vs. Final Fantasy
Post by: chronovore on February 10, 2022, 10:20:25 AM
FF Art Mooks without playing any of the damned games.