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Title: BEST KUBRICK MOVIE EVER
Post by: Cheebs on February 11, 2007, 12:44:52 PM
My Barry Lyndon thread devolved into ranking Kubrick movies so I am curious what everyone's is. To make things more interesting, pick three!
Title: Re: BEST KUBRICK MOVIE EVER
Post by: Solo on February 11, 2007, 12:45:37 PM
2001: A BEST GODDAMN THING EVAR
Title: Re: BEST KUBRICK MOVIE EVER
Post by: Cheebs on February 11, 2007, 12:46:19 PM
2001: A BEST GODDAMN THING EVAR
2010 was better of course.
Title: Re: BEST KUBRICK MOVIE EVER
Post by: Solo on February 11, 2007, 12:47:56 PM
Get that shit outta here
Title: Re: BEST KUBRICK MOVIE EVER
Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 11, 2007, 12:48:15 PM
Spartacus is the only won I've seen from beginning to end, and it's classic. 2001 was ok from what I saw, but so fragmented it shouldn't even be considered
Title: Re: BEST KUBRICK MOVIE EVER
Post by: Solo on February 11, 2007, 12:48:53 PM
You're so fragmented you shouldnt even be considered
Title: Re: BEST KUBRICK MOVIE EVER
Post by: The Miles Trahan Burger Experiment on February 11, 2007, 12:49:14 PM
This is very difficult for me, but I'd have to go with Clockwork for being the most rewatchable and straight-up fun.

Or Dr Strangelove...
Title: Re: BEST KUBRICK MOVIE EVER
Post by: Cheebs on February 11, 2007, 12:49:40 PM
I have to admit I am a BIT surprised the rest of the 2001 "saga" never got made into films.
Title: Re: BEST KUBRICK MOVIE EVER
Post by: The Fake Shemp on February 11, 2007, 12:50:01 PM
2001 is boring.

Also, where is EYES WIDE SHUT? :lol

Dr. Strangelove ftw!
Title: Re: BEST KUBRICK MOVIE EVER
Post by: Cheebs on February 11, 2007, 12:50:41 PM
2001 is boring.

Also, where is EYES WIDE SHUT? :lol

Dr. Strangelove ftw!
EYES WIDE SHUT IS UNDER THE OTHER OPTION. It doesn't deserve to be on here.
Title: Re: BEST KUBRICK MOVIE EVER
Post by: The Fake Shemp on February 11, 2007, 12:51:13 PM
Tom Cruise murdered Stanley Kubrick.
Title: Re: BEST KUBRICK MOVIE EVER
Post by: The Miles Trahan Burger Experiment on February 11, 2007, 12:52:18 PM
Eyes Wide Shut doesn't deserve to be on any Kubrick lists, ever.
Title: Re: BEST KUBRICK MOVIE EVER
Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 11, 2007, 12:52:47 PM
I'm sorry but 2001 was pretty boring. No character development, no logical conclusions, and it skips from story to story without explaining what happened to the previous one.

All the parts with actual people talking to each other were good imo, but the movie builds up all this suspense with the dramatic music yet nothing ever happens. It's like a Goosebumps episode if you took out all the "shock" endings before commercial breaks but left in the heart pumping music
Title: Re: BEST KUBRICK MOVIE EVER
Post by: whiteACID on February 11, 2007, 12:53:20 PM
Full Metal Jacket

Probably my favorite movie ever
Title: Re: BEST KUBRICK MOVIE EVER
Post by: Cheebs on February 11, 2007, 12:53:41 PM
I'm sorry but 2001 was pretty boring. No character development, no logical conclusions, and it skips from story to story without explaining what happened to the previous one.

All the parts with actual people talking to each other were good imo, but the movie builds up all this suspense with the dramatic music yet nothing ever happens. It's like a Goosebumps episode if you took out all the "shock" endings before commercial breaks but left in the heart pumping music
Check out the sequel!
(http://ec2.images-amazon.com/images/P/B00004VVN8.01._SS500_SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg)
Title: Re: BEST KUBRICK MOVIE EVER
Post by: The Miles Trahan Burger Experiment on February 11, 2007, 12:54:06 PM
I'm sorry but 2001 was pretty boring. No character development, no logical conclusions, and it skips from story to story without explaining what happened to the previous one.

All the parts with actual people talking to each other were good imo, but the movie builds up all this suspense with the dramatic music yet nothing ever happens. It's like a Goosebumps episode if you took out all the "shock" endings before commercial breaks but left in the heart pumping music

::)
Title: Re: BEST KUBRICK MOVIE EVER
Post by: Solo on February 11, 2007, 12:54:56 PM
I'm sorry but 2001 was pretty boring. No character development, no logical conclusions, and it skips from story to story without explaining what happened to the previous one.

All the parts with actual people talking to each other were good imo, but the movie builds up all this suspense with the dramatic music yet nothing ever happens. It's like a Goosebumps episode if you took out all the "shock" endings before commercial breaks but left in the heart pumping music

Stick to Robert Zemeckis and Ron Howard films then. They are more than happy to paint by numbers for you.
Title: Re: BEST KUBRICK MOVIE EVER
Post by: The Miles Trahan Burger Experiment on February 11, 2007, 12:55:21 PM
Forrest Gump > 2001, AMIRITE GUYS?
Title: Re: BEST KUBRICK MOVIE EVER
Post by: The Fake Shemp on February 11, 2007, 12:57:41 PM
I've got no problems with the atmosphere or the theme or the ending or Kubrick's standard gloom 'n doom bullshit - it's just boring.

The effects are pretty brilliant for its time, so it's cool to watch for that.  But the pacing blows and it's incredibly boring.
Title: Re: BEST KUBRICK MOVIE EVER
Post by: Solo on February 11, 2007, 12:59:11 PM
I guess this is why film is SUBJECTIVE. Ive never been bored watching a Kubrick film, whereas Im frequently bored watching, say, a Michael Bay film.
Title: Re: BEST KUBRICK MOVIE EVER
Post by: The Miles Trahan Burger Experiment on February 11, 2007, 12:59:35 PM
I guess this is why film is SUBJECTIVE. Ive never been bored watching a Kubrick film, whereas Im frequently bored watching, say, a Michael Bay film.

Ain't that the truth.
Title: Re: BEST KUBRICK MOVIE EVER
Post by: The Fake Shemp on February 11, 2007, 01:01:11 PM
I guess this is why film is SUBJECTIVE. Ive never been bored watching a Kubrick film, whereas Im frequently bored watching, say, a Michael Bay film.

That's because Michael Bay films are boring.
Title: Re: BEST KUBRICK MOVIE EVER
Post by: Solo on February 11, 2007, 01:02:07 PM
Although I do think the man CAN set up and execute action scenes well. I swear, Bay should hook up with Chris Nolan. Bay can do the action, and Nolan the rest.
Title: Re: BEST KUBRICK MOVIE EVER
Post by: APF on February 11, 2007, 01:02:23 PM
Voted for Clockwork because I loves it so much, but Strangelove is totally oss
Title: Re: BEST KUBRICK MOVIE EVER
Post by: The Fake Shemp on February 11, 2007, 01:04:08 PM
Although I do think the man CAN set up and execute action scenes well. I swear, Bay should hook up with Chris Nolan. Bay can do the action, and Nolan the rest.

He's hooking up with SPIELBERG for TRANSFORMERS.  Oscar winner written all over it.
Title: Re: BEST KUBRICK MOVIE EVER
Post by: Cheebs on February 11, 2007, 01:04:45 PM
Although I do think the man CAN set up and execute action scenes well. I swear, Bay should hook up with Chris Nolan. Bay can do the action, and Nolan the rest.

He's hooking up with SPIELBERG for TRANSFORMERS.  Oscar winner written all over it.
spielberg has nothing to do with transformers. Exec. producing means very little. He exec produces just about anything.
Title: Re: BEST KUBRICK MOVIE EVER
Post by: The Fake Shemp on February 11, 2007, 01:05:41 PM
spielberg has nothing to do with transformers. Exec. producing means very little. He exec produces just about anything.

a) Thanks for the lesson I was unaware

b) That's not true - he's actually on set
Title: Re: BEST KUBRICK MOVIE EVER
Post by: Cheebs on February 11, 2007, 01:06:33 PM
spielberg has nothing to do with transformers. Exec. producing means very little. He exec produces just about anything.

a) Thanks for the lesson I was unaware

b) That's not true - he's actually on set
eh? He is just exec. producing it. Exec. Producer doesn't do anything.
Title: Re: BEST KUBRICK MOVIE EVER
Post by: The Fake Shemp on February 11, 2007, 01:08:51 PM
Again, I know what an executive producer is - thanks.

The other thing is that, you're wrong, he actually is working on Transformers.  Obviously not to the extent that Tom DeSanto is, but why do you think ILM is involved?  That's probably the core of the credit, and yet, he's reportedly talking to Bay about effects and movie crap.  Hell, they presented the trailer together.
Title: Re: BEST KUBRICK MOVIE EVER
Post by: Van Cruncheon on February 11, 2007, 01:09:10 PM
Spielberg hasn't made a truly inspirational directorial appearance since Close Encounters. FACT. He just picks accessible scripts with themes that twiddle geek glands and gets big budgets to back 'em. He's not a great director; he's just one that won't bungle a big budget.
Title: Re: BEST KUBRICK MOVIE EVER
Post by: Cheebs on February 11, 2007, 01:10:06 PM
Spielberg hasn't made a truly inspirational directorial appearance since Close Encounters. FACT.

RAIDERS.
Title: Re: BEST KUBRICK MOVIE EVER
Post by: The Fake Shemp on February 11, 2007, 01:10:38 PM
Whew, that was a close one.  For a second there, I thought you'd might buck your iconoclastic nature.  Close call.
Title: Re: BEST KUBRICK MOVIE EVER
Post by: Cheebs on February 11, 2007, 01:12:10 PM
I love how this turned from kubrick to spielberg. It seems any topic about a director devolves into a spielberg or lucas thread.
 
Title: Re: BEST KUBRICK MOVIE EVER
Post by: Van Cruncheon on February 11, 2007, 01:12:19 PM
Raiders is awesome; my favorite film of all time. It's also rife with questional acting, gimped effects shots, and a little too much adherence to the pulp sensibility so hopelessly (and pointlessly) adored by Lucas. It's a GEEK MOVIE.
Title: Re: BEST KUBRICK MOVIE EVER
Post by: The Fake Shemp on February 11, 2007, 01:13:18 PM
Not really.  Raiders has a pretty broad audience.  You don't make that much money off of geeks alone, they just help merchandise sales and Internet traffic nowadays.
Title: Re: BEST KUBRICK MOVIE EVER
Post by: Cheebs on February 11, 2007, 01:14:36 PM
Raiders was a cultural event. It got nominated for best director and best film remember
Title: Re: BEST KUBRICK MOVIE EVER
Post by: The Miles Trahan Burger Experiment on February 11, 2007, 01:16:33 PM
Raiders is a classic, but its definitely been blown out of porportion by net geeks and general audiences.
Title: Re: BEST KUBRICK MOVIE EVER
Post by: The Fake Shemp on February 11, 2007, 01:17:39 PM
Raiders is a classic, but its definitely been blown out of porportion by net geeks and general audiences.

Yeah, damn those Internet geeks that made it such a huge hit and award winn- OH WAIT THERE WAS NO INTERNET THEN LOL
Title: Re: BEST KUBRICK MOVIE EVER
Post by: The Miles Trahan Burger Experiment on February 11, 2007, 01:18:13 PM
Raiders is a classic, but its definitely been blown out of porportion by net geeks and general audiences.

Yeah, damn those Internet geeks that made it such a huge hit and award winn- OH WAIT THERE WAS NO INTERNET THEN LOL

I'm talking about now, dude. Don't play dumb.
Title: Re: BEST KUBRICK MOVIE EVER
Post by: The Fake Shemp on February 11, 2007, 01:19:07 PM
But Raiders has been a huge hit since its release.  It was one of the reason people bought VCRs.  It was one of the highest grossing films of all time.

DAMN THOSE INTERNET GEEKS!
Title: Re: BEST KUBRICK MOVIE EVER
Post by: Van Cruncheon on February 11, 2007, 01:19:28 PM
So do a lot of films that don't demonstrate any unique directorial vision or qualities, but instead possess themes that tweak the geek glands of the Oscar committee. For example: want to garner an undeserved best actress nomination? Be an innocent-looking pretty-young thing, and take on a sexually controversial role. The Oscars are a joke, and most so-called cinemaphiles are just comic book dorks with an expanded vocabulary, unable to separate a movie's theme from it's directorial qualities.
Title: Re: BEST KUBRICK MOVIE EVER
Post by: The Miles Trahan Burger Experiment on February 11, 2007, 01:20:12 PM
But Raiders has been a huge hit since its release.  It was one of the reason people bought VCRs.  It was one of the highest grossing films of all time.

DAMN THOSE INTERNET GEEKS!

Did you totally miss my point, or what?
Title: Re: BEST KUBRICK MOVIE EVER
Post by: Van Cruncheon on February 11, 2007, 01:21:50 PM
But Raiders has been a huge hit since its release.  It was one of the reason people bought VCRs.  It was one of the highest grossing films of all time.

DAMN THOSE INTERNET GEEKS!

You always posit this fallacy, Willco. Popular opinion does not equate to a movie's directorial quality. It just means it was accessible and didn't have any gross failings.

As ever: is Britney Spears a musical genius? Is the Ford Explorer a sterling example of modern automotive design? What would Orson Welles have thought of Armageddon? Toshinden sold people Playstations!
Title: Re: BEST KUBRICK MOVIE EVER
Post by: The Fake Shemp on February 11, 2007, 01:23:18 PM
That wasn't my point Drinky, shame you lost it while trying to carefully word your way out of your original argument.

I wasn't arguing whether or not Raiders was awesome.  And certainly because it was a hit.  I was arguing that the so-called "geek crowd" is too small, and certainly not as organized as when Raiders was released due to the lack of the Internet, to be the only reason why it was such a huge hit.

Answer: IT HAD A BROAD AUDIENCE.
Title: Re: BEST KUBRICK MOVIE EVER
Post by: The Miles Trahan Burger Experiment on February 11, 2007, 01:26:13 PM
Obviously you either deliberately missed my point or can't read, Willco, because I was talking about how net geeks THESE DAYS -- such as yourself -- give the film more than due credit, heralding it as some sort of masterpiece of the modern cinema.
Title: Re: BEST KUBRICK MOVIE EVER
Post by: The Fake Shemp on February 11, 2007, 01:27:20 PM
Nobody hails it as a masterpiece, just as an awesome film.  Yet, you yourself state is a classic.  So it's a classic, but you dislike how people claim it to be a classic?  I think you're confusing yourself.
Title: Re: BEST KUBRICK MOVIE EVER
Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 11, 2007, 01:28:46 PM
Raiders is a classic, but its definitely been blown out of porportion by net geeks and general audiences.

Yeah, damn those Internet geeks that made it such a huge hit and award winn- OH WAIT THERE WAS NO INTERNET THEN LOL
:lol :lol :lol

Raiders is a classic movie. It's perhaps the best adventure movie of the last 30 years. Perfectly paced, well written, and fully engrossing.
Title: Re: BEST KUBRICK MOVIE EVER
Post by: The Miles Trahan Burger Experiment on February 11, 2007, 01:28:54 PM
Nobody hails it as a masterpiece, just as an awesome film.  Yet, you yourself state is a classic.  So it's a classic, but you dislike how people claim it to be a classic?  I think you're confusing yourself.

Its a classic, but not the life-changing, flawless film many make it out to be. Its littered with horrible acting, cheese, and poor directorial decisions.
Title: Re: BEST KUBRICK MOVIE EVER
Post by: whiteACID on February 11, 2007, 01:29:24 PM
Willco, shutup.
Title: Re: BEST KUBRICK MOVIE EVER
Post by: The Fake Shemp on February 11, 2007, 01:30:48 PM
Its a classic, but not the life-changing, flawless film many make it out to be. Its littered with horrible acting, cheese, and poor directorial decisions.

Who calls it a life-changing, flawless film?  I've never heard anyone refer to Raiders as that.  And if it has so much of the latter, how is it a classic?

You're talking in circles.  Drinky can pull it off, but this is ridiculous!
Title: Re: BEST KUBRICK MOVIE EVER
Post by: The Miles Trahan Burger Experiment on February 11, 2007, 01:32:47 PM
Its a classic for the way it influenced the adventure genre, not because its a flawless film up there with Citizen Kane, The Godfather, etc.

Quit playing dumb.
Title: Re: BEST KUBRICK MOVIE EVER
Post by: Van Cruncheon on February 11, 2007, 01:32:53 PM
That wasn't my point Drinky, shame you lost it while trying to carefully word your way out of your original argument.

I wasn't arguing whether or not Raiders was awesome.  And certainly because it was a hit.  I was arguing that the so-called "geek crowd" is too small, and certainly not as organized as when Raiders was released due to the lack of the Internet, to be the only reason why it was such a huge hit.

Answer: IT HAD A BROAD AUDIENCE.

Duuuuude, that's not my point at all. My point is that SOME CRITICS WILL LET MIDDLING DIRECTORIAL EFFORTS OFF THE HOOK IF THE MOVIE TINGLES THEIR NERD CENTERS. Most people have a nerd center, and if something hits 'em just right, they'll forgive any number of flaws, or will at least try to elevate a middling effort due to personal bias. The original Star Wars is a TECHNICALLY AWFUL AND UTTERLY AMATEURISH MOVIE but it became a legend because it hit people in the right way at the right time, critics and audiences alike.

I let Raiders off the hook because I CONSIDER IT FUCK AWESOME TOTAL. It makes me nerdgasm. But does that mean it's a technically well-drected movie with sophisticated writing and high quality acting? Not in the fuckin' SLIGHTEST.
Title: Re: BEST KUBRICK MOVIE EVER
Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 11, 2007, 01:34:01 PM
Its a classic for the way it influenced the adventure genre, not because its a flawless film up there with Citizen Kane, The Godfather, etc.

Quit playing dumb.

Well duh. No one compares it to Godfather in that respect. As far a adventure movies go, it's the perfect blueprint.
Title: Re: BEST KUBRICK MOVIE EVER
Post by: The Miles Trahan Burger Experiment on February 11, 2007, 01:35:03 PM
So what was all this you yourself posted before about it being "Perfectly paced, well written, and fully engrossing."

In fact, what rating would you give the film?
Title: Re: BEST KUBRICK MOVIE EVER
Post by: The Fake Shemp on February 11, 2007, 01:36:18 PM
But Raiders wasn't just a critical darling and unlike Shake, you're old enough to know how big of a hit that film was.  Soccer moms like it.  That's as far from a "nerd center" as you can get.  You called it a geek movie, and it's really not.  It was a huge hit across age and gender.  You know that!

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Its a classic for the way it influenced the adventure genre, not because its a flawless film up there with Citizen Kane, The Godfather, etc.

Who is saying this?  This is just as outlandish as your claim that more people quote The Evil Dead than The Godfather.
Title: Re: BEST KUBRICK MOVIE EVER
Post by: Mupepe on February 11, 2007, 01:37:28 PM
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Title: Re: BEST KUBRICK MOVIE EVER
Post by: Van Cruncheon on February 11, 2007, 01:37:33 PM
Its a classic for the way it influenced the adventure genre, not because its a flawless film up there with Citizen Kane, The Godfather, etc.

Quit playing dumb.

Well duh. No one compares it to Godfather in that respect. As far a adventure movies go, it's the perfect blueprint.

No it isn't. It could use less jarring scene transitions and less slavish adherence to a very dated pulp sensibility, for starters. It's very much rooted in the era it plays homage to, which makes it better fodder for satire than duplication.
Title: Re: BEST KUBRICK MOVIE EVER
Post by: The Miles Trahan Burger Experiment on February 11, 2007, 01:37:52 PM
Oh, please. You know there are legions of nerds who will place Raiders above just about any film ever made, save for Star Wars.
Title: Re: BEST KUBRICK MOVIE EVER
Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 11, 2007, 01:38:05 PM
So what was all this you yourself posted before about it being "Perfectly paced, well written, and fully engrossing."

In fact, what rating would you give the film?

Well it is. It's a 10/10 in my book for what it is. Not all 10/10s are equal. I think Raiders is the perfect adventure movie, but not a perfect movie like something like To Kill a Mockingbird or Godfather.

As I've said before, Empire Strikes Back is a 10/10 in my book too, for what it is. It's like when you go see a movie called SNAKES ON A PLANE you know what you're getting, and you judge it based on what it is.

Title: Re: BEST KUBRICK MOVIE EVER
Post by: Van Cruncheon on February 11, 2007, 01:38:42 PM
Willco, re-read my point. EVERYONE has a geek center, where theme overrides any ability to critically evaluate the technical quality of the movie itself. See: Armageddon.
Title: Re: BEST KUBRICK MOVIE EVER
Post by: The Miles Trahan Burger Experiment on February 11, 2007, 01:39:53 PM
Don't bring up SoaP, you'll just get Willco excited again. ;)

You see, in my book, 10/10 equates to calling a film a flawless masterpiece. Raiders is most certainly not, no matter which way you slice it.
Title: Re: BEST KUBRICK MOVIE EVER
Post by: The Fake Shemp on February 11, 2007, 01:40:18 PM
Oh, please. You know there are legions of nerds who will place Raiders above just about any film ever made, save for Star Wars.

No, not really.  The "nerd legions" represent a fraction of that Indy audience too, which was my point made at Drinky.  Internet geeks really don't do much business at the box office.  They're vocal and make a lot of noise, but when dollars count - theirs count the least.
Title: Re: BEST KUBRICK MOVIE EVER
Post by: The Miles Trahan Burger Experiment on February 11, 2007, 01:40:59 PM
Tell that to George Lucas. ::)
Title: Re: BEST KUBRICK MOVIE EVER
Post by: The Fake Shemp on February 11, 2007, 01:41:58 PM
You think Internet geeks were the only ones that watched Star Wars? :lol

I guess that's why the original was nominated for Best Picture or that the score played on the radio or that the prequels audience make-up was mostly FAMILIES.

Again, Internet geeks are vocal - they don't make films money.
Title: Re: BEST KUBRICK MOVIE EVER
Post by: Himu on February 11, 2007, 01:42:40 PM
I loved Full Metal Jacket, and from what I've seen of 2001, I love that movie too. I'm loving me some Kubrick and those are the only films of his I've seen but I plan on seeing the rest.
Title: Re: BEST KUBRICK MOVIE EVER
Post by: Van Cruncheon on February 11, 2007, 01:43:08 PM
Where on earth am I talking about Internet geeks?
Title: Re: BEST KUBRICK MOVIE EVER
Post by: The Miles Trahan Burger Experiment on February 11, 2007, 01:43:13 PM
So you're trying to tell me geeks make up a fraction of the people who paid to see the prequels in theaters?

Geeks, children, and a few scattered cinema hounds made Lucas his money. Fact.
Title: Re: BEST KUBRICK MOVIE EVER
Post by: The Fake Shemp on February 11, 2007, 01:43:27 PM
I was directing that at Shake, not you.
Title: Re: BEST KUBRICK MOVIE EVER
Post by: The Fake Shemp on February 11, 2007, 01:45:39 PM
So you're trying to tell me geeks make up a fraction of the people who paid to see the prequels in theaters?

Uh, duh.

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Geeks, children, and a few scattered cinema hounds made Lucas his money. Fact.

Uh, that's not a fact.  Children, families and teenagers made Lucas his money.  Not geeks.  Now, geeks can fall into some of those categories, but geeks alone do not make movies money.  They don't.  It's great when you can win 'em over to your side, but you don't need 'em.

Star Wars is a pop culture phenomenon.  My parents saw the prequels.  My younger sibilings saw the prequels.  My grandparents saw the prequels.  It wasn't a geek event for anyone after opening night, dude.
Title: Re: BEST KUBRICK MOVIE EVER
Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 11, 2007, 01:46:10 PM
Don't bring up SoaP, you'll just get Willco excited again. ;)

You see, in my book, 10/10 equates to calling a film a flawless masterpiece. Raiders is most certainly not, no matter which way you slice it.

That's a valid way of looking at things. With Raiders imo, the "flaws" in the movie don't matter as much as they would in a movie like Godfather or Citizen Kane, which rely on great acting and a steller script. An adventure movie doesn't necessarily require those things in spades to be good. It would be like complaining about Lion King because it's "unrealistic" or "childish"; it's a fucking cartoon lol, the same rules don't apply.

At least, that's how I look at it
Title: Re: BEST KUBRICK MOVIE EVER
Post by: The Fake Shemp on February 11, 2007, 01:46:31 PM
Now geeks do make Lucas money in merchandise, which is what I said like a page ago, and you wonder which one is more profitable.  That's another discussion.
Title: Re: BEST KUBRICK MOVIE EVER
Post by: Van Cruncheon on February 11, 2007, 01:47:04 PM
Good Lord, I'm agreeing with Shake: a 10/10 is reserved for a technical masterpiece, and Spielberg is a perfectly consistent 7/10 director when it comes to technical quality. Of course, the AICN/Wilco/FoC film student set hates that, because it means most comic book movies, which have ticket sales and little else to qualify them, will never reach that echelon. OH TEH NO!

I don't consider "accessibility" a sterling directorial quality, anyhow, The best movies require people change to consider them, and that requires abandoning some of the familiar and comfortable and actually pushing the boundaries of technical style.
Title: Re: BEST KUBRICK MOVIE EVER
Post by: The Miles Trahan Burger Experiment on February 11, 2007, 01:47:28 PM
:-*
Title: Re: BEST KUBRICK MOVIE EVER
Post by: The Fake Shemp on February 11, 2007, 01:47:39 PM
When did I say Raiders was classic, nor had any flaws?  I never said that, nor did I argue that point.
Title: Re: BEST KUBRICK MOVIE EVER
Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 11, 2007, 01:48:41 PM
Good Lord, I'm agreeing with Shake: a 10/10 is reserved for a technical masterpiece, and Spielberg is a 7/10 director when it comes to technical quality. Of course, the AICN/Wilco/FoC film student set hates that, because it means most comic book movies, which have ticket sales and little else to qualify them, will never reach that echelon. OH TEH NO!

I don't consider "accessibility" a sterling directorial quality, anyhow, The best movies require people change to consider them, and that requires abandoning some of the familiar and comfortable and actually pushing the boundaries of technical style.

I disagree. Halloween 1 is a perfect horror movie, but from a film perspective it's far from perfect.
Title: Re: BEST KUBRICK MOVIE EVER
Post by: The Miles Trahan Burger Experiment on February 11, 2007, 01:49:13 PM
When did I say Raiders was classic, nor had any flaws?  I never said that, nor did I argue that point.

But others do, and you jumped to defend them. So pipe down if you don't actually agree with them. ::)

PD: The original Halloween is far more "perfect" than Raiders, imo.
Title: Re: BEST KUBRICK MOVIE EVER
Post by: Van Cruncheon on February 11, 2007, 01:49:18 PM
Where did I say this wasn't going to be a banner year for Drinky Crow elitism!
Title: Re: BEST KUBRICK MOVIE EVER
Post by: The Fake Shemp on February 11, 2007, 01:49:27 PM
Yeah, from a film perspective it's Halloween 3 that is perfect.
Title: Re: BEST KUBRICK MOVIE EVER
Post by: The Fake Shemp on February 11, 2007, 01:50:29 PM
But others do, and you jumped to defend them. So pipe down if you don't actually agree with them. ::)

Uh, no I didn't.  Both you and Drinky made inaccurate statements, although Drinky made a far better case for his original argument then you did.  You're just all hyperbole and immaturity.
Title: Re: BEST KUBRICK MOVIE EVER
Post by: Van Cruncheon on February 11, 2007, 01:51:09 PM
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I disagree. Halloween 1 is a perfect horror movie, but from a film perspective it's far from perfect.


Halloween 1 isn't a perfect horror movie, much less a good one, and makes an awful template. A classic should stand apart, even from its imitators, and Halloween is largely unwatchable these days, it's so dull. More Session 9s and less cheeseball slasher flicks, anyhow!
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Post by: The Fake Shemp on February 11, 2007, 01:52:18 PM
The original Halloween rocks, Drinky.  You shut your dirty whore mouth.  I do agree with you on one point, because it's not the template for the slasher genre.  That goes to Black Christmas.
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Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 11, 2007, 01:55:05 PM
I don't even like slasher movies but the first Halloween movie is steller. Made me suspicious of my little brothers :(
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Post by: Himu on February 11, 2007, 01:58:03 PM
Jacob's Ladder is the best horror film ever, and my favorite movie.
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Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 11, 2007, 01:58:46 PM
Jacob's Ladder is the best horror film ever, and my favorite movie.

Alien is my favorite simply because it freaks the shit out of me
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Post by: Van Cruncheon on February 11, 2007, 02:03:06 PM
Jacob's Ladder :bow :bow

Himuro, for advocating that classic, I forgive you watching an animu of your choice

Alien is also awesome

and to keep this on topic, The Shining is great largely for Nicholson's dead-on -- literally! lolz -- performance.
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Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 11, 2007, 02:06:58 PM
Yea Alien scared me like crazy. It might not be a traditional horror movie, but it's far more effective than any horror movie I've seen. I'm not afraid of some mummy with a kitchen knife "chasing" me. I know to NOT go in the house and NEVER listen to my white friends when they say it's safe. Jason never killed nobody on the bus :punch

But the idea of being impregnated by an insectoid freaks me out, especially since there are insects that actually do that to smaller animals.
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Post by: The Fake Shemp on February 11, 2007, 02:08:08 PM
Jacob's Ladder is great, but it's not in the same subgenre as Halloween.  It's like comparing apples to oranges.  Alien comes the closest, but it's really horror sci-fi.  I love Alien, though.

Eh, I think The Shining is okay.  It's not very faithful to the source material, in my opinion.
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Post by: The Fake Shemp on February 11, 2007, 02:08:47 PM
Jason never killed nobody on the bus.

Yes, but he did kill people on a boat!
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Post by: Van Cruncheon on February 11, 2007, 02:09:03 PM
ohhh, nerds and their categorizations and canons
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Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 11, 2007, 02:09:53 PM
Jason never killed nobody on the bus.

Yes, but he did kill people on a boat!

Luckily black people are afraid of the water :bow

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Post by: Bacon on February 11, 2007, 02:10:46 PM
Clockwork is the best. Full Metal Jacket is best during the bootcamp stuff. The rest isn't as good.

Eyes Wide Shut rules too cause of all the orgy shit, especially in the Euro cuts. Nicole Kidman's ass looked delicious in it.
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Post by: Van Cruncheon on February 11, 2007, 02:11:12 PM
Willco: the source material for The Shining isn't very good. Frankly, I think slavish adherence to a novel's plot and characterizations typifies an unambitious director. Even Spielberg didn't stick to PKD's Minority Report, which is the case of a mediocre director translating from a brilliant writer's work, unlike the opposite with The Shining, and it turned out to at least be, well, accessible.
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Post by: The Fake Shemp on February 11, 2007, 02:37:51 PM
Spielberg is a mediocre director?  That's laughable.

I'm not saying King's novel is classic literature, but I felt the movie would've been better served to use more of its cues.  As is, it's just okay.  I find nothing frightening about it.
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Post by: Van Cruncheon on February 11, 2007, 02:39:04 PM
apparently you've never had a family!
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Post by: The Fake Shemp on February 11, 2007, 02:39:35 PM
I'm 23-years-old, so of course not.  What, do you think I'm hispanic?
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Post by: Van Cruncheon on February 11, 2007, 02:42:23 PM
okay, i :lol'd at that one
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Post by: Flannel Boy on February 11, 2007, 02:43:34 PM
I'm 23-years-old, so of course not.  What, do you think I'm hispanic?
:lol :lol
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Post by: CajoleJuice on February 11, 2007, 03:24:29 PM
I'm 23-years-old, so of course not.  What, do you think I'm hispanic?

I've got some catching up to do.
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Post by: Polari on February 11, 2007, 08:47:29 PM
Paths of Glory. I haven't seen The Killing yet though.
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Post by: ferrarimanf355 on February 11, 2007, 09:05:18 PM
Full Metal Jacket

Probably my favorite movie ever
Ditto. Anyone who disagrees with this gets a big, "WHAT IS YOUR MAJOR MALFUNCTION, NUMBNUTS?!?!?!?!?!"
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It's the only one I've seen, though...
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Post by: Madrun Badrun on February 11, 2007, 10:17:40 PM
clock work.  its one of my favorite movies.  but I haven't watched it in months because I have memories of a girl attached to it.  :'( Fucking Rachel messing up how great clockwork is!   :punch
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Post by: The Miles Trahan Burger Experiment on February 12, 2007, 07:51:04 AM
Yeah! Fuck Rachel! :'(