2001 sucks, so this person was probably right.
Kubrick is easily the most overrated director of all-time, and seems to be the chic pick for people wanting to seem like they enjoy edgy cinema, but he's not a hack and he has several good films.
Film Elitists in general are assholes.
Even more overrated than Lucas?
Who, Kubrick or Lucas? I guess critics have a soft spot for Lucas, but they never mention his directing skills, but rather his storytelling skills. He's often praised as a visionary, but a barely competent director.Kubrick of course.
Kubrick is easily the most overrated director of all-time, and seems to be the chic pick for people wanting to seem like they enjoy edgy cinema, but he's not a hack and he has several good films.
learn to read, plz
Kubrick never seemed interested in directing actors, it seems. 2001 is the greatest example of this; the film hardly needed actors, or a script even. Yet Kubrick still managed to make it a haunting visual masterpiece.
Kubrick never seemed interested in directing actors, it seems. 2001 is the greatest example of this; the film hardly needed actors, or a script even. Yet Kubrick still managed to make it a haunting visual masterpiece.
That's because he was a photogrpaher. I'll give him credit for having some beautiful viduals in his movies.
i added "in really challenging ways" 'cuz while i like what he did in 2001, i don't find kubrick films make me think much.
[So being a photographer is some kind of excuse? There are plenty of photographers with horrible visual flare; its not something you can learn in school (TUT TUT). ;)
Kubrick is the director that wannabe film enthusiasts pick as their favorite director.
Plus, weren't you the one who was hating on 2001 for having no story? Yet you praise a director for having a beautiful visual style, while condemning his greatest visual masterwork. ::)
I could show you a series of 10 random pictures and ask you to connect it with a made up story. That doesnt make me a great storyteller.
You don't need to have a character telling you what's going on if you allow yourself to be guided through the story by the director, and in 2001's case, the visuals.
........HAL didn't malfunction because of the monolith. He knew that the trip to Jupiter would make human so significant and powerful they wouldn't need him any longer. That's why he said he was skeptical about the mission to Dave" at one point. Also, his "malfunction" was logical human error, after all, he was designed to have human logics.
goddamn you people take your movies seriouslyyou take black people too seriously.
These Kubrick threads are getting old, Himuro. You're always gonna find some asshole that wants to shit on your taste in everything. Kubrick isn't a new topic in this little game.
And FoC, why the fuck did you just cite Kevin Smith as a great storyteller? :lol
He's told one good story five times, man.
KEVIN SMITH > KOOBRIK
LOLZ
But in all honesty, how did you weasle your way into a film school? :rofl
I never ever said they are the gods of cinema. Not even close.
God forbid my favorite movie is a movie i enjoy and watched alot.
my favorite movie -- Raiders -- ain't so hot on a technical level. i wish Kubrick had directed it!
Who even argues that Lucas is a mastermind director? The best Star Wars is the first one he didn't direct - Empire Strikes Back. As Willco said, he's respected as a great storyteller in film. I just wish he would have gotten together with Spielberg for more stuff; let Steven direct, George come up with the story, and whoever wrote RAIDERS write it. Over and over again. That would be awesome.
lmao your obsessed with megoddamn you people take your movies seriouslyyou take black people too seriously.
Who even argues that Lucas is a mastermind director? The best Star Wars is the first one he didn't direct - Empire Strikes Back. As Willco said, he's respected as a great storyteller in film. I just wish he would have gotten together with Spielberg for more stuff; let Steven direct, George come up with the story, and whoever wrote RAIDERS write it. Over and over again. That would be awesome.
Dude, do you think your average moviegoer knows this? They think Lucas directed all six Star Wars films, and thus is a genius beyond all reasonable doubt. The hard truth -- most people are fucking morons.
You actually believe that crap? Lucas has been talking about doing other projects for decades, yet always comes back to retinker the Star Wars universe. Its hard to believe he's still capable of anything else.
Lucas's influence has even managed to come onto his game company Lucasarts. They used to do top of the line non Star Wars shit and hten all of a suddent Ep1 comes and they stop and only develop/publish SW games. Fuck Lucas. I hate him.
Shake Lucas DID direct ROTJ. He isn't credited for it however. It turned out Marquand was in over his head and Lucas took over un-credited. The direct of ESB and the actors all cite this but Lucas won't go on record out of respect to the dead director. But it is safe to say ROTJ is directed by Lucas.
so who gets paid is more important than who did the work?Shake Lucas DID direct ROTJ. He isn't credited for it however. It turned out Marquand was in over his head and Lucas took over un-credited. The direct of ESB and the actors all cite this but Lucas won't go on record out of respect to the dead director. But it is safe to say ROTJ is directed by Lucas.
I've already had this argument at GAF. If he's not credited at all as Director, then I don't consider him the director.
Im late to this distinguished mentally-challenged debate. My 2 cents: who gives a shit? I love Kubrick dearly, despite the fact that many people love to hate on him. Yes, his films are cold and detached, but thats always been part of his charm for me.I am curious what your view is on the ROTJ directing "debacle" a post are two up. Do you agree that whoever is paid and is in the credits deserves the title of director of a film or the one who does all the directing but remains un-credited for it due to reasons of paying Marquand and the like?
In conclusion: like what you like, Himu, and fuck what others think.
I think I wouldnt want my name attached as director of ROTJ either :lol WELL PLAYED GEORGEI said ignoring your views on the film! :lol Thinking about as films as a WHOLE not your views on star wars. Which would you consider the director(assuming you knew someone elese directed the film un-credited) on a film?
The Marquand stuff has always struck me as revisionist bullshit, to try and undermine whatever work he DID do on the film so as not to hit any snags on the SE versions.No it is not. This has been said since the film came out. The ESB director has stated Marquand did not direct it but Lucas with help from his(the esb director's) assistant. Carrie Fisher continues to call Lucas the director of ROTJ, and a camera man on ROTJ quit saying he did not like how Lucas took over the project from Lucas. Lucas refuses to officially say anything out of respect but he has a few times slipped and called himself the director.
I agree. I think he did it because Marquand was not in the best of health and died a few short years after it hit theaters. But Alan Smithee would make the most sense, but in the end Lucas did not direct the best directed episode in the saga as is.
do you actuale think your gonna change it others minds
do you actuale think your gonna change it others minds
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I said Lucas did NOT direct the best episode in the saga.I agree. I think he did it because Marquand was not in the best of health and died a few short years after it hit theaters. But Alan Smithee would make the most sense, but in the end Lucas did not direct the best directed episode in the saga as is.
Whoa... RotJ, the best episode? Have you seen Empire Strikes Back or what?
But, officially, he didn't direct RotJ either. ;)He directed the movie even though his name is not on it. Superman II never mentioned Donner's name yet he still directed 45%~ of the film.
That's because James Earl Jones was ashamed to be in Revenge of the Sith. It was his worst moment in movie history...James Earl Jones rambled about how excited he was for that one scene for like 5 years before ROTS even came out, it was getting weird.
"NOOOOOOOOOOOooooooooooooOOOOOOOOOOO!"