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General => The Superdeep Borehole => Topic started by: Phoenix Dark on February 13, 2007, 06:53:45 PM

Title: Scorsese, Leone, and Kubrick
Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 13, 2007, 06:53:45 PM
That's right fuckers, I went to Hollywood Video and got three movies

The Departed
Once Upon a Time in the West
Paths of Glory

 :bow

ALL REVIEWS WILL GO HERE. No more multiple threads >:(
Title: Re: Scorses, Leone, and Kubrick
Post by: The Miles Trahan Burger Experiment on February 13, 2007, 06:54:51 PM
Scorse? :rofl
Title: Re: Scorses, Leone, and Kubrick
Post by: Mupepe on February 13, 2007, 06:55:27 PM
If it's going to be an official thread then perhaps it should say "Official Thread" in the title
Title: Re: Scorses, Leone, and Kubrick
Post by: TVC15 on February 13, 2007, 06:56:10 PM
Leone has this one in the bag.
Title: Re: Scorsese, Leone, and Kubrick
Post by: The Miles Trahan Burger Experiment on February 13, 2007, 06:56:53 PM
Scorsese :-[
Title: Re: Scorsese, Leone, and Kubrick
Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 13, 2007, 06:57:21 PM
Is it better than The Good the Bad and the Ugly?

Also, how come Eastwood wasn't in this movie?
Title: Re: Scorsese, Leone, and Kubrick
Post by: The Miles Trahan Burger Experiment on February 13, 2007, 06:57:56 PM
Did you rent Departed?
Title: Re: Scorsese, Leone, and Kubrick
Post by: TVC15 on February 13, 2007, 06:58:25 PM
For a Few Dollars More is the best, in my opinion.
Title: Re: Scorsese, Leone, and Kubrick
Post by: The Black Stallion on February 13, 2007, 07:00:33 PM
Who ever directed Pootie Tang should get the Presidential Medal of Freedom.
Title: Re: Scorsese, Leone, and Kubrick
Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 13, 2007, 07:02:52 PM
Did you rent Departed?

Yeah. I'm not buying something if I've never seen it before. Plus I didn't have a lot of money after being cheated at Home Depot with their overly expensive shovels >:(
Title: Re: Scorsese, Leone, and Kubrick
Post by: beelzebozo on February 13, 2007, 07:06:20 PM

i'm gonna have to stick to convention and say that the good, the bad, and the ugly is the best of the trilogy.  eli wallach takes that flick to another level.
Title: Re: Scorsese, Leone, and Kubrick
Post by: Robo on February 13, 2007, 07:13:57 PM
I think you're going to overdose on FUCK AWESOME.

As far as Once Upon a Time in the West being better than TGtBatU... I'll say it's a tossup.  I wouldn't even dare argue it.  Charles Bronson is a suitable replacement for Eastwood and Henry Fonda is the fucking man.  You'll have no complaints about the cast, that's for damn sure.
Title: Re: Scorsese, Leone, and Kubrick
Post by: The Fake Shemp on February 13, 2007, 07:45:37 PM
Henry Fonda rocks in that movie.  I love it so much.  I even made Disposable White Guy buy it.
Title: Re: Scorsese, Leone, and Kubrick
Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 13, 2007, 07:46:19 PM
I'm gonna watch it tonight. It's snowing outside, and we're expecting 8 inches, so I'm praying for a snow day :lol
Title: Re: Scorsese, Leone, and Kubrick
Post by: TVC15 on February 13, 2007, 07:49:28 PM

i'm gonna have to stick to convention and say that the good, the bad, and the ugly is the best of the trilogy.  eli wallach takes that flick to another level.

I dunno, The Good the Bad and the Ugly has the best ending of the 3, but I like the other 2 best all around.
Title: Re: Scorsese, Leone, and Kubrick
Post by: The Fake Shemp on February 13, 2007, 07:50:04 PM
The Good, The Bad and The Ugly is the best.
Title: Re: Scorsese, Leone, and Kubrick
Post by: Himu on February 13, 2007, 07:51:18 PM
My pubes are really itchy tonight. PD rent Clockwork Orange.
Title: Re: Scorsese, Leone, and Kubrick
Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 13, 2007, 07:51:37 PM
The Good, The Bad and The Ugly is the best.

It's easily my favorite western
Title: Re: Scorsese, Leone, and Kubrick
Post by: The Fake Shemp on February 13, 2007, 07:53:40 PM
I think Once Upon a Time in the West has a slight edge on it - I just enjoy the protagonist and his backstory with the villain more than I do with The Man With No Name and his antagonists.

Henry Fonda is truly an evil sonofabitch and Harmonica will make you believe musical instruments are cool.
Title: Re: Scorsese, Leone, and Kubrick
Post by: TVC15 on February 13, 2007, 07:54:14 PM
That's your opinion, man.  The setting always irked me.  It doesn't really feel like the Civil War.  I wish they would've just worked around that plot element because it makes the movie seem, well, unauthentic.

Eh, I'd probably put TGTBTU ahead of a Fistful of Dollars since it is van cleefless.
Title: Re: Scorsese, Leone, and Kubrick
Post by: The Fake Shemp on February 13, 2007, 07:54:55 PM
Also, Claudia Cardinale is the hottest babe in any of the Leone films.  They don't build whores like they used to!
Title: Re: Scorsese, Leone, and Kubrick
Post by: The Fake Shemp on February 13, 2007, 07:55:59 PM
That's your opinion, man.  The setting always irked me.  It doesn't really feel like the Civil War.  I wish they would've just worked around that plot element because it makes the movie seem, well, unauthentic.

What, do you want Leone does Glory with Clint Eastwood?
Title: Re: Scorsese, Leone, and Kubrick
Post by: The Fake Shemp on February 13, 2007, 07:57:33 PM
PD, this is what you have to look forward to tonight:

(http://www.leninimports.com/claudia_cardinale_gallery_30.jpg)

 :hyper
Title: Re: Scorsese, Leone, and Kubrick
Post by: TVC15 on February 13, 2007, 07:58:22 PM
That's your opinion, man.  The setting always irked me.  It doesn't really feel like the Civil War.  I wish they would've just worked around that plot element because it makes the movie seem, well, unauthentic.

What, do you want Leone does Glory with Clint Eastwood?

No.  It's just that the setting is clearly not the United States.  The Civil War was inessential enough to the plot that they could've done things differently.  It pulls me out of the movie a bit.
Title: Re: Scorsese, Leone, and Kubrick
Post by: Himu on February 13, 2007, 08:01:14 PM
I agree with White Man. As much as I enjoyed The Good Bad And Ugly, the civil war parts felt so unnecessary.
Title: Re: Scorsese, Leone, and Kubrick
Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 13, 2007, 08:03:30 PM
PD, this is what you have to look forward to tonight:

(http://www.leninimports.com/claudia_cardinale_gallery_30.jpg)

 :hyper

 :hyper

Oh shit...
Title: Re: Scorsese, Leone, and Kubrick
Post by: captainbiotch on February 13, 2007, 09:31:22 PM
For a Few Dollars More is the best, in my opinion.

  :heart
Title: Re: Scorsese, Leone, and Kubrick
Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 13, 2007, 10:16:49 PM
Holy shit I feel asleep :lol

I was playing WoW around 8:30pm and felt like my body was shutting down, so I hopped in the bed right quick. I woke up a couple minutes ago and thought it was 10am, not 10pm :lol

Apparently my dad tried to come over but I was sleep when he was at the door. Ok I feel better now, I'll watch Leone.

...

But I kinda want to watch the Michigan/Michigan ST game
Title: Re: Scorsese, Leone, and Kubrick
Post by: The Miles Trahan Burger Experiment on February 13, 2007, 10:17:54 PM
No, you kinda wanna watch the Departed, shit stain!!!1 :punch :punch :punch

 :-*
Title: Re: Scorsese, Leone, and Kubrick
Post by: Mupepe on February 13, 2007, 10:19:25 PM
No, you kinda wanna watch the Departed, shit stain!!!1 :punch :punch :punch

 :-*
I'm going to buy The Departed in about an hour.
Title: Re: Scorsese, Leone, and Kubrick
Post by: The Miles Trahan Burger Experiment on February 13, 2007, 10:19:53 PM
:bow

I assure you, it is better than Kids.
Title: Re: Scorsese, Leone, and Kubrick
Post by: Mupepe on February 13, 2007, 10:23:33 PM
:bow

I assure you, it is better than Kids.
I know it is.  I've seen it a bunch of times :heartbeat
Title: Re: Scorsese, Leone, and Kubrick
Post by: The Miles Trahan Burger Experiment on February 13, 2007, 10:25:54 PM
Oh. :-[
Title: Re: Scorsese, Leone, and Kubrick
Post by: The Fake Shemp on February 13, 2007, 10:26:44 PM
Once Upon a Time in the West > Caddyshack 2 > The Departed
Title: Re: Scorsese, Leone, and Kubrick
Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 13, 2007, 10:26:58 PM
When I rent movies I always watch the one I want to see most last. That way I don't watch a sweet movie then two boring ones lol - unless of course I misjudge the last movie. The Departed looks good so I'm not too worried
Title: Re: Scorsese, Leone, and Kubrick
Post by: The Miles Trahan Burger Experiment on February 13, 2007, 10:28:06 PM
Lolz, Willco and TVC trolling The Departed without ever seeing it is amusing.
Title: Re: Scorsese, Leone, and Kubrick
Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 13, 2007, 10:29:23 PM
They haven't seen it? I thought you guys saw it in the theater?
Title: Re: Scorsese, Leone, and Kubrick
Post by: The Miles Trahan Burger Experiment on February 13, 2007, 10:30:27 PM
They haven't seen it? I thought you guys saw it in the theater?

No, Willco insists that its an IA clone and won't see it, and TVC is just being obnoxious.
Title: Re: Scorsese, Leone, and Kubrick
Post by: TVC15 on February 13, 2007, 10:46:06 PM
Once Upon a Time in the West > Caddyshack 2 > The Departed

Ghostbusters 2 > Caddyshack 2 > Stop or My Mom Will Shoot > The Departed = Casino
Title: Re: Scorsese, Leone, and Kubrick
Post by: The Miles Trahan Burger Experiment on February 13, 2007, 10:46:42 PM
You guys are hilarious!
Title: Re: Scorsese, Leone, and Kubrick
Post by: The Fake Shemp on February 13, 2007, 10:48:30 PM
Once Upon a Time in the West > Caddyshack 2 > The Departed

Ghostbusters 2 > Caddyshack 2 > Stop or My Mom Will Shoot > The Departed = Casino

I think that is an insult to Stop or My Mom Will Shoot! to be placed after Caddyshack.  And also, Police Academy 5 is better than Casino.
Title: Re: Scorsese, Leone, and Kubrick
Post by: TVC15 on February 13, 2007, 10:49:36 PM
Once Upon a Time in the West > Caddyshack 2 > The Departed

Ghostbusters 2 > Caddyshack 2 > Stop or My Mom Will Shoot > The Departed = Casino

And also, Police Academy 5 is better than Casino.

Depends how you look at it.  Police Academy 5 is the better drama, but Casino is the better comedy.
Title: Re: Scorsese, Leone, and Kubrick
Post by: The Fake Shemp on February 13, 2007, 10:52:49 PM
O SNAP
Title: Re: Scorsese, Leone, and Kubrick
Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 14, 2007, 01:36:39 AM
Just finished the movie. Looks like The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly's spot as best western ever is secure.






Bronson :-*
Title: Re: Scorsese, Leone, and Kubrick
Post by: EvilBoris on February 14, 2007, 06:51:43 AM
 Uh, Charles Bronson is in the other one..
Title: Re: Scorsese, Leone, and Kubrick
Post by: The Miles Trahan Burger Experiment on February 14, 2007, 07:56:45 AM
The Wild Bunch ftw
Title: Re: Scorsese, Leone, and Kubrick
Post by: Solo on February 14, 2007, 08:25:47 AM
Of course I am biased, it being my favorite film ever and all, but The Good, The Bad, And The Ugly can't be topped. Not just in westerns, but in GREAT FUCKING FILMS. Anyways, 3 great picks. OUATITW is pretty great, but it cant touch TGTBATU or even For A Few Dollars More. Van Cleef + Wallach + Eastwood is an untouchable trio.

Anyways, The Departed is the WORST of your 3 rentals, so thats saying something for how well you did.
Title: Re: Scorsese, Leone, and Kubrick
Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 14, 2007, 11:44:49 AM
Of course I am biased, it being my favorite film ever and all, but The Good, The Bad, And The Ugly can't be topped. Not just in westerns, but in GREAT FUCKING FILMS. Anyways, 3 great picks. OUATITW is pretty great, but it cant touch TGTBATU or even For A Few Dollars More. Van Cleef + Wallach + Eastwood is an untouchable trio.

I agree. To me The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly is the perfect western. After watching OUATITW I truly couldn't put it up there as one of the top three westerns. I found the movie to be good, but as some have said, it drags on in many areas. The plot also seemed like a mess for much of the movie.

Yet despite these shortcomings the movie amazed me on many levels. While TGTBATU is my favorite western, it doesn't give the viewer an impression of the western setting. At times it feels more like three people who happen to be in the west. OUATITW instead takes a differnt approach, showing the viewer what the west was like outside of bank robberies and gun fights. The cinematography is simply stunning and really shows the beauty of the west; Leone brings these environments to life with amazing shots throughout the movie which almost seem to make the beautiful environments a co-star of the film.

I'm not going to give a full review right now, but I think the movie is an 8/10. Starts off great and ends great, but many parts in between left me expecting a bit more. Still, it's a grea movie
Title: Re: Scorsese, Leone, and Kubrick
Post by: The Miles Trahan Burger Experiment on February 14, 2007, 11:50:48 AM
Have you ever seen The Wild Bunch?
Title: Re: Scorsese, Leone, and Kubrick
Post by: The Fake Shemp on February 14, 2007, 11:57:16 AM
Once Upon a Time in the West has a hottie and a harmonica and a dude named Harmonica.  It wins!
Title: Re: Scorsese, Leone, and Kubrick
Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 14, 2007, 12:15:01 PM
Have you ever seen The Wild Bunch?

No. My favorite westerns tend to be...

The Good the Bad and the Ugly
The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance
The Cowboys
True Grit
The Sons of Katie Elder
Fist Full of Dollars
For a Few Dollars More

No particular order
Title: Re: Scorsese, Leone, and Kubrick
Post by: The Miles Trahan Burger Experiment on February 14, 2007, 12:17:32 PM
GO WATCH WILD BUNCH
Title: Re: Scorsese, Leone, and Kubrick
Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 14, 2007, 12:32:18 PM
Another thing I really liked about OUATITW was the sound design. There are many scenes with no talking, yet the sound creates more intensity and drama than any dialogue could achieve.

For instance, the part towards the beginning where the family is killed. You hear the chirping of bugs in the background and almost don't even pay it any mind, that is until it suddenly disappears. At which point you know something is about to happen.
Title: Re: Scorsese, Leone, and Kubrick
Post by: The Fake Shemp on February 14, 2007, 12:51:27 PM
The best part of the sound design is that you can hear the whore moans.
Title: Re: Scorsese, Leone, and Kubrick
Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 14, 2007, 01:10:56 PM
 :drool


She looked like Eva Mendez
Title: Re: Scorsese, Leone, and Kubrick
Post by: TVC15 on February 14, 2007, 01:16:50 PM
Watch High Noon, PD.  It's where 24 rips off its concept from.
Title: Re: Scorsese, Leone, and Kubrick
Post by: Solo on February 15, 2007, 06:45:36 AM
I also must buck the trend and say I LOVE the Civil War scenes in TGTBATU, and dont think they feel out of place at all. Hell, the films tagline was "For three men the Civil wasn't hell. It was practice!". Besides, if we didnt have the civil war scenes, then we wouldnt have the other great scenes where Angel Eyes is having his thug beat information out of Tuco in the war camp.

By the way, Eli Wallach really did the stunt where he laid across the traintracks to cut his handcuffs. He was alsmot decapitated doing it. That was one of several times he almost died during production.
Title: Re: Scorsese, Leone, and Kubrick
Post by: beelzebozo on February 15, 2007, 07:17:19 AM
i could barely believe the dude wasn't really mexican.  when i found out it completely blew my mind.
what do you think of the extended cut?
it's probably the one director's cut i've seen where i'll take all i can get, content-wise.  i can't get enough tortured eastwood with cracked lips being drug through the desert
Title: Re: Scorsese, Leone, and Kubrick
Post by: Verboten on February 15, 2007, 07:37:06 AM
Once Upon a Time In the West is a western, so don't go into it expecting a spagetti western. It's still damned good. Hope you enjoy one of the baddest dudes in cinema that goes by the name of Harmonica (portrayed by charles bronson). That tune, can't get it out of my head now.
Title: Re: Scorsese, Leone, and Kubrick
Post by: Verboten on February 15, 2007, 07:48:06 AM
You heard this music, it meant your ass:

http://download.yousendit.com/397E6A76634D81B2
Title: Re: Scorsese, Leone, and Kubrick
Post by: Solo on February 15, 2007, 10:32:55 AM
i could barely believe the dude wasn't really mexican.  when i found out it completely blew my mind.
what do you think of the extended cut?
it's probably the one director's cut i've seen where i'll take all i can get, content-wise.  i can't get enough tortured eastwood with cracked lips being drug through the desert

I actually prefer the US cut, SIMPLY because Eastwood's and Wallach's (and the Van Cleef wannabe) voices in the reinserted scenes really kill the continuity (especially Wallach, who sounds incredibly frail), and because I really dont feel the 18 minutes or so that was trimmed was important stuff. And that is what breaks my heart. I mean, here you have TGTBATU, my all time favorite film, and yet I cant watch it the way I want to. I can pop in my older MGM disc, and watch the cut I prefer, but with lousy A/V presentation. Or I can pop in the SE, and watch (what I see as) an inferior cut, but with an incredible restoration job done on the transfer. Why couldnt they have given us the option of watching either cut? :(

Also, I always thought, especially for 1966, that the makeup effects in the movie, especially on Clint's sunburnt face, were totally awesome.
Title: Re: Scorsese, Leone, and Kubrick
Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 15, 2007, 10:41:15 AM
I also must buck the trend and say I LOVE the Civil War scenes in TGTBATU, and dont think they feel out of place at all. Hell, the films tagline was "For three men the Civil wasn't hell. It was practice!". Besides, if we didnt have the civil war scenes, then we wouldnt have the other great scenes where Angel Eyes is having his thug beat information out of Tuco in the war camp.

By the way, Eli Wallach really did the stunt where he laid across the traintracks to cut his handcuffs. He was alsmot decapitated doing it. That was one of several times he almost died during production.

I agree. Although it might be as great as other parts of the movie, it includes some amazing scenes. Tuco getting the shit beat out of him is great, as is that first scene where Eastwood and Tuco meet the army and realize they're not confederate :lol

Or the prison scene with that music :hyper
Title: Re: Scorsese, Leone, and Kubrick
Post by: Solo on February 15, 2007, 10:45:11 AM
Yup. Not only is it my favorite movie ever, it has my favorite score ever. Morricone is just incredible. The main theme, the prison camp song, The Ecstasy of Gold (Tuco running through the cemetary), and The Trio (the final shootout) are all just incredible pieces of music. Hell, the main theme still pops up all the time today. They play it several times a year during NFL telecasts!
Title: Re: Scorsese, Leone, and Kubrick
Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 15, 2007, 12:26:17 PM
The Departed (Scorsese, 2006)

In the last 6 months I've done a lot of catching up with respect to watching movies I should have seen earlier. While many lived up to the hype created by more hardcore film buffs - such as Brazil and Die Hard - others didn't, and instead rubbed me as either just good (Heat) or simply ok (Reservoir Dogs, Blade Runner). Like many of the movies mentioned earlier, The Departed was introduced to my consciousness with an interesting trailer and lots of hype. I must say I was somewhat skeptical going into the movie, but after watching it I can truly say this is not only one of the best crime movies I've ever seen, it's also one of the best movies I've ever seen.

When I watch movies I look for two things: great acting and great writing. The Departed not only does both of these things very well, it knocks them out the park. Leonardo DiCaprio and Matt Damon give wonderful preformances as undercover "rats" - the former as an undercover cop and the other as an undercover mob informant. Both are seperated by more than just career desisions; on one hand DiCaprio's character Cortigan is the blacksheep in a family knee deep in crooks, while Damon's character Sullivan is the product of a stable, calculated good life. Yet despite their contradictary differences they are brought together by a central, powerful similarity: Frank Costello. Nicholson's portrayal of the mob boss is brilliantly chilling. A true force of power, Costello is the main man involved in a plan to bring down the Boston mob.

The preformances of all three are simply magnificant. DiCaprio especially shines and effortlessly portrays a fragile, scared man who simply wants to do the right thing, yet is afraid that doing it could lose him his life. Throughout the movie he effortless shows a wide range of emotions, from anger to manic fear to vulnerability. Although I haven't seen the other movies featuring best actor nominees for the oscar, it's hard to imagine anyone giving a preformance more real and stunning as DiCaprio's. Likewise Nicholson's preformance is also stunningly real and effortless; it's hard for me to understand why he wasn't nominated for best supporting actor. Alec Baldwin and Martin Sheen also give standout preformances which serve to further balance the movie.

The script is simply amazing in nearly every aspect and really compliments the great acting. Yet the force which brings it to life the most is Scorsese, who masterfully orchastrates this tour de force. It's amazing how he's able to use short scenes to flesh out each character without anything seeming rushed or looked over. The opening of the movie is simply brilliant, and truly sets the view up for the next two hours. It's as if he gives you a slight tease of what's to come before finally pulling up the curtain and revealing his magic trick. Yet once he does show his hand it's impossible to look away; the story simply draws you in and never lets go. Even the more emotional scenes that seem to drag other crime dramas down are handled with a superior level of intensity.

Everything comes together perfectly and leads right to the shocking climax and ending, as DiCaprio and Damon finally meet, the story in the balance. I was left impressed over and over again by the movie.

If I have any complaints it would have to do with the rather forced, gratuitous profanity towards the beginning of the movie and well as a few puzzling plot holes. Yet these are minor flaws when compared to just how much the movie gets right. I simply cannot express how much I was impressed by this movie - it's a balanced, perfectly acted blueprint of how to make a compelling crime movie.

9.5/10
Title: Re: Scorsese, Leone, and Kubrick
Post by: Solo on February 15, 2007, 12:29:59 PM
Did
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Leo's
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death make you just about crap your pants with surprise, PD? Ive seen IA, knew it was coming, and yet I swear I still jumped in my seat in the theatres.
Title: Re: Scorsese, Leone, and Kubrick
Post by: The Miles Trahan Burger Experiment on February 15, 2007, 12:32:57 PM
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Leo's death was so fucking well done, its unbelievable. One second he's standing there, victorious, the next blood splatters the back of the elevator and he's down, a bullet in his head. Perhaps my favorite death scene in any Scorsese film, ever.
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Title: Re: Scorsese, Leone, and Kubrick
Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 15, 2007, 12:34:35 PM
Did
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Leo's
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death make you just about crap your pants with surprise, PD? Ive seen IA, knew it was coming, and yet I swear I still jumped in my seat in the theatres.

Sadly that was spoiled for me by am nintenho a month ago; but it still was a bit of a shock at how casual it happened. God dammit. But I was definitely shocked by the deaths of

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Sheen and Damon's characters, especially the GRAPHIC nature of Sheen's demise
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I definitlely didn't see that coming.
Title: Re: Scorsese, Leone, and Kubrick
Post by: Solo on February 15, 2007, 12:34:57 PM
That was probably the most shocking/sad moment for me in a film in 2006.

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EDIT: That scene PD, with Sheen's demise, was THE best scene in the entire film for me. Leo is called on to do all the acting, without a single word. He conveys the feelings of shock, then extreme sadness (and hopelessness, as his only connection to his real life has effectively been cut off), all with his face. Then he has to quickly switch into indifference as to not make Costello's thugs suspicious. Incredible acting, and my favorite scene. I think this is why I REALLY loved Leos performance, and feel hes being robbed of Best Actor: because the performance is largely an interal one, relying more on body language and facial expressions, than on loads of dialogue and scene chewing.
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Title: Re: Scorsese, Leone, and Kubrick
Post by: The Miles Trahan Burger Experiment on February 15, 2007, 12:35:46 PM
The am nintenho smear compaign is sickening. >:(
Title: Re: Scorsese, Leone, and Kubrick
Post by: Solo on February 15, 2007, 12:38:37 PM
Edited my previous post for PD.
Title: Re: Scorsese, Leone, and Kubrick
Post by: The Miles Trahan Burger Experiment on February 15, 2007, 12:39:57 PM
That was probably the most shocking/sad moment for me in a film in 2006.

EDIT: That scene PD, with Sheen's demise, was THE best scene in the entire film for me. Leo is called on to do all the acting, without a single word. He conveys the feelings of shock, then extreme sadness and hopelessness, all with his face. Then he has to quickly switch into indifference as to not make Costello's thugs suspicious. Incredible acting, and my favorite scene. I think this is why I REALLY loved Leos performance, and feel hes being robbed of Best Actor: because the performance is largely an interal one, relying more on body language and facial expressions, than on loads of dialogue and scene chewing.

:bow

But, for me, nothing beats the awesome introduction scene. 11/10 if there ever was one; Nicholson's narration is so unsettling.
Title: Re: Scorsese, Leone, and Kubrick
Post by: Solo on February 15, 2007, 12:48:54 PM
I have a problem with the intro, actually.
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Nicholson is awesome, no doubts there. My problem is that it doesnt have any relevance to the rest of the picture. I mean, the images Marty shows + Jack's VO almost set the film up as a study of racial tension/social classes, yet the film itself has none of that. So I really like it, but it feels like its part of another movie.
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Title: Re: Scorsese, Leone, and Kubrick
Post by: Cheebs on February 15, 2007, 12:49:19 PM
PD see Paths of Glory yet?
Title: Re: Scorsese, Leone, and Kubrick
Post by: Robo on February 15, 2007, 12:52:52 PM
Solo and Shake, spoiler tag your shit, yo.
Title: Re: Scorsese, Leone, and Kubrick
Post by: The Miles Trahan Burger Experiment on February 15, 2007, 01:01:47 PM
Solo and Shake, spoiler tag your shit, yo.

Uhh, I did. ???
Title: Re: Scorsese, Leone, and Kubrick
Post by: The Miles Trahan Burger Experiment on February 15, 2007, 01:02:38 PM
I have a problem with the intro, actually.
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Nicholson is awesome, no doubts there. My problem is that it doesnt have any relevance to the rest of the picture. I mean, the images Marty shows + Jack's VO almost set the film up as a study of racial tension/social classes, yet the film itself has none of that. So I really like it, but it feels like its part of another movie.
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I see it as more of a prologue to the film, introducing us to an abbreviated history of South Boston.
Title: Re: Scorsese, Leone, and Kubrick
Post by: Solo on February 15, 2007, 01:07:04 PM
As I say, I really like it too (Gimme Shelter is perfect), and I dont feel it detracts from the movie. It just feels oddly out of place consider what comes in the next 2.5 hours. The only other thing that I thought Marty didnt use too well was Comfortably Numb. Both in the version he used (why use a shitty live cover, when the original is perfection?), and in the context he used it. Didnt seem to fit.
Title: Re: Scorsese, Leone, and Kubrick
Post by: The Miles Trahan Burger Experiment on February 15, 2007, 01:08:25 PM
As I say, I really like it too (Gimme Shelter is perfect), and I dont feel it detracts from the movie. It just feels oddly out of place consider what comes in the next 2.5 hours. The only other thing that I thought Marty didnt use too well was Comfortably Numb. Both in the version he used (why use a shitty live cover, when the original is perfection?), and in the context he used it. Didnt seem to fit.

IMO, the entire love scene was unnecessary. I would have preffered a fade out after they lock lips on the kitchen counter.
Title: Re: Scorsese, Leone, and Kubrick
Post by: Robo on February 15, 2007, 01:09:43 PM
Solo and Shake, spoiler tag your shit, yo.

Uhh, I did. ???

I meant Solo's quote in your first post on the page.
Title: Re: Scorsese, Leone, and Kubrick
Post by: Solo on February 15, 2007, 01:10:35 PM
Or that would have worked too. I think it was another excuse to get Leo's shirt off  :lol, since he seemed to be in great shape in this movie, for the first time in several years.

EDIT: robo, I will change that now.
Title: Re: Scorsese, Leone, and Kubrick
Post by: CajoleJuice on February 15, 2007, 01:12:33 PM
As I say, I really like it too (Gimme Shelter is perfect), and I dont feel it detracts from the movie. It just feels oddly out of place consider what comes in the next 2.5 hours. The only other thing that I thought Marty didnt use too well was Comfortably Numb. Both in the version he used (why use a shitty live cover, when the original is perfection?), and in the context he used it. Didnt seem to fit.

IMO, the entire love scene was unnecessary. I would have preffered a fade out after they lock lips on the kitchen counter.

I agree with Shake that the scene was unnecessary. And I agree with Solo that the version of "Comfortably Numb" that was used is terrible.
Title: Re: Scorsese, Leone, and Kubrick
Post by: The Miles Trahan Burger Experiment on February 15, 2007, 01:58:54 PM
If anything, the main fault with The Departed I have is the editing. Most of it is fantastic (Thelma <3), but there are a few times when it gets a bit... erm, sloppy. :(
Title: Re: Scorsese, Leone, and Kubrick
Post by: CajoleJuice on February 15, 2007, 02:01:22 PM
If anything, the main fault with The Departed I have is the editing. Most of it is fantastic (Thelma <3), but there are a few times when it gets a bit... erm, sloppy. :(

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Achievement in film editing
     “Babel” (Paramount and Paramount Vantage)
Stephen Mirrione and Douglas Crise
     “Blood Diamond” (Warner Bros.)
Steven Rosenblum
     “Children of Men” (Universal)
Alex Rodríguez and Alfonso Cuarón
     “The Departed” (Warner Bros.)
Thelma Schoonmaker

     “United 93” (Universal and StudioCanal)
Clare Douglas, Christopher Rouse and Richard Pearson
Title: Re: Scorsese, Leone, and Kubrick
Post by: The Miles Trahan Burger Experiment on February 15, 2007, 02:02:33 PM
 :lol

As I said, like 90% of it is bliss. But that other 10%... :/
Title: Re: Scorsese, Leone, and Kubrick
Post by: Solo on February 15, 2007, 02:08:09 PM
Its funny. As much is its predictable that Marty gets shafted, its always predictable that Thelma will get a nom.
Title: Re: Scorsese, Leone, and Kubrick
Post by: The Miles Trahan Burger Experiment on February 15, 2007, 02:09:11 PM
Its funny. As much is its predictable that Marty gets shafted, its always predictable that Thelma will get a nom.

Ugly bitch :punch

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