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Title: PS3 sucks? We blame society - Sony in the latest EGM
Post by: MrAngryFace on February 13, 2007, 10:34:52 PM
The interview with Jack Tretton from Sony of America in the latest EGM is just painful to read. This is the first issue of EGM I think is a keeper. Make sure to pick it up cause the interview is legendary as EGM calls Sony out on some pretty obvious WTF:

EGM basically asks what happened with the launch, why the negative press?

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"The problem we have... it's society in general"


and to paraphrase the rest of the Wahh session

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"We were on top now EVERYONE hates us and wants us dead".
  ::)


NEXT

EGM asks 'WTF is with PS3's online component? Wasnt it supposed to be like Xbox Live Gold?!'

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"It's (the online component) not where we want it to be, but we THINK its compelling"

 :rofl :rofl

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"But I think we have a VERY ROBUST online experience"

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"I dont think we've held up the xbox live gold experience as what we want to be"

 :rofl :rofl :rofl

backpeddal faster.

Then earlier in the interview he challenges the interviewer to find PS3s in stock on the shelf in a retail location and he'll buy it for like 1200, then EGM goes oh but we called 18 retailers and most of them had them, then he said

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"I CANT POSSIBLY KNOW HOW MANY UNITS ARE IN STORES AT ANY GIVEN MOMENT!"

I will give him credit however, for being honest about why UMD failed 'Studios had no clue what the audience wanted from releases' and then EGM inserted a picture from On Golden Pond UMD lololol. Least Sony is honest about that. Their comment on blu-ray also made sense, but god damn if there isnt some CROW EATING going on. Also this interview was done a while back so the bickering over ps3 in stock earlier in the interview isnt based off of performance so far this year.

To balance this hilarious interview, VF5 got stunning reviews from the magazine, and while I know it'll show up on 360 eventually, PS3 owners at this forum can rest easy knowing im at least a LITTLE jealous.
Title: Re: PS3 sucks? We blame society - Sony in the latest EGM
Post by: The Fake Shemp on February 13, 2007, 10:37:58 PM
You would be banned for this on other forums, infidel!
Title: Re: PS3 sucks? We blame society - Sony in the latest EGM
Post by: MrAngryFace on February 13, 2007, 10:39:24 PM
WE JUST WONT TELL, besides considering I hated the last three issues I got in the mail, I love this issue.
Title: Re: PS3 sucks? We blame society - Sony in the latest EGM
Post by: The Fake Shemp on February 13, 2007, 10:40:47 PM
I'm going to withhold comments on the PS3, or all of the next gen units, for about 12 months.  I'm pretty sure the next gen landscape should settle by then and we'll know who will take the lead, and then I'll take the plunge.  The consoles are just too expensive this time around for me to make a blind buy; I don't want to throw my money away on another lame duck console.
Title: Re: PS3 sucks? We blame society - Sony in the latest EGM
Post by: Van Cruncheon on February 13, 2007, 10:42:14 PM
I'm going to withhold comments on the PS3, or all of the next gen units, for about 12 months.  I'm pretty sure the next gen landscape should settle by then and we'll know who will take the lead, and then I'll take the plunge.  The consoles are just too expensive this time around for me to make a blind buy; I don't want to throw my money away on another lame duck console.

HAHA YOU BOUGHT A GAMECUBE
Title: Re: PS3 sucks? We blame society - Sony in the latest EGM
Post by: The Fake Shemp on February 13, 2007, 10:42:45 PM
 :'(
Title: Re: PS3 sucks? We blame society - Sony in the latest EGM
Post by: MrAngryFace on February 13, 2007, 10:48:01 PM
So did I, I like my gamecube :(
Title: Re: PS3 sucks? We blame society - Sony in the latest EGM
Post by: Christopher on February 13, 2007, 10:51:17 PM
ps3 :bow
Title: Re: PS3 sucks? We blame society - Sony in the latest EGM
Post by: MrAngryFace on February 13, 2007, 10:52:07 PM
Chris must not be a member of society.
Title: Re: PS3 sucks? We blame society - Sony in the latest EGM
Post by: The Sceneman on February 13, 2007, 10:54:45 PM
Christopher is only telling himself he likes PS3 because his dad wasted 600 clams on one.

And the interview = lol

Sony are so fucked its not even funny
Title: Re: PS3 sucks? We blame society - Sony in the latest EGM
Post by: The Fake Shemp on February 13, 2007, 10:56:42 PM
So did I, I like my gamecube :(

You bought yours late in its life cycle, when they practically gave them away.  I bought one at launch.  And after a promising start, it lost steam quick.

It's easy to predict a victor around the beginning of a console cycle, but you really don't know until about 12 - 18 months out.  PS3 could score another GTA (in terms of a game that comes out of nowhere to become a huge system seller) or maybe the 360 will get that title to push its system over the edge.  I don't know.
Title: Re: PS3 sucks? We blame society - Sony in the latest EGM
Post by: MrAngryFace on February 13, 2007, 10:57:35 PM
It doesn't really matter, Society will decide the victor.
Title: Re: PS3 sucks? We blame society - Sony in the latest EGM
Post by: Christopher on February 13, 2007, 10:58:06 PM
Christopher is only telling himself he likes PS3 because his dad wasted 600 clams on one.

And the interview = lol

Sony are so fucked its not even funny

And your just saying that because your an n-thing who limits himself to one system.

I like the PS3 - I have almost every other console sans an Xbox360, I just don't feel the need to troll it.  I enjoy it - buy one then rant/bitch.

So Sony's NOW fucked after about 10 years of spanking Nintendo?  If anything there pretty set because they can just re-release the PS3 next gen - with some added distinguished mentally-challenged gimmick, and just eat their loses from this gen.

...wait that sounds familar.
Title: Re: PS3 sucks? We blame society - Sony in the latest EGM
Post by: The Fake Shemp on February 13, 2007, 10:59:13 PM
It doesn't really matter, Society will decide the victor.

SOCIETY IS TRYING TO PICK ON SONY, THEY ALWAYS ROOT FOR THE UNDERDOG.  NINTENDO WILL WIN BECAUSE THEY'RE THE UNDERDOG.  WHOA.  WHAT THE FUCK.  NINTENDO'S THE UNDERDOG?  IT'S COSMIC.
Title: Re: PS3 sucks? We blame society - Sony in the latest EGM
Post by: MrAngryFace on February 13, 2007, 11:00:13 PM
As long as you can survive your fall from fame, you'll get another chance when society decides it.
Title: Re: PS3 sucks? We blame society - Sony in the latest EGM
Post by: The Fake Shemp on February 13, 2007, 11:01:10 PM
PS3

LIVE IN YOUR SOCIETY, PLAY IN OURS LOLZ
Title: Re: PS3 sucks? We blame society - Sony in the latest EGM
Post by: Christopher on February 13, 2007, 11:01:15 PM
as long as i know how to love I know I will stay alive
Title: Re: PS3 sucks? We blame society - Sony in the latest EGM
Post by: The Sceneman on February 13, 2007, 11:04:45 PM
Hey Im a big fan of many consoles, I dont really give a shit if Nintendo made it or not. The PS2, for instance is an excellent machine. Its just that right now the 360 can do everything that a PS3 can plus 100 things more at half the price. Maybe if some exclusive, ground breaking software came out for PS3 (which it wont) I'll give a shit. And dont go throwing that Blu-Ray shit back at me because no one gives a fuck about that
Title: Re: PS3 sucks? We blame society - Sony in the latest EGM
Post by: Christopher on February 13, 2007, 11:06:06 PM
Hey Im a big fan of many consoles, I dont really give a shit if Nintendo made it or not. The PS2, for instance is an excellent machine. Its just that right now the 360 can do everything that a PS3 can plus 100 things more at half the price. Maybe if some exclusive, ground breaking software came out for PS3 (which it wont) I'll give a shit. And dont go throwing that Blu-Ray shit back at me because no one gives a fuck about that

:lol ok SCENESTER it's been out for 4 months, and now no "breaking software" will ever come out for it.

have fun with PSP-Wii ports - now THAT is breaking software.
Title: Re: PS3 sucks? We blame society - Sony in the latest EGM
Post by: brawndolicious on February 13, 2007, 11:10:34 PM
PS3 has a moderate chance (due to playstaion brand name being brought down for high price because of bluray) but it has absolutely horrible marketing.  I mean what is this interview?  Either fire the guy or don't make him something that gets interviewed.
Title: Re: PS3 sucks? We blame society - Sony in the latest EGM
Post by: Robo on February 14, 2007, 12:10:23 AM
MAF, what are you trying to do here?  Emulate the worst of GAF's gaming forum discussions?
Title: Re: PS3 sucks? We blame society - Sony in the latest EGM
Post by: MrAngryFace on February 14, 2007, 12:20:26 AM
Lol someone likes ps3!
Title: Re: PS3 sucks? We blame society - Sony in the latest EGM
Post by: The Sceneman on February 14, 2007, 12:26:18 AM
Have you heard the latest gossip? Several dudes porked their PS3s
Title: Re: PS3 sucks? We blame society - Sony in the latest EGM
Post by: Robo on February 14, 2007, 12:27:15 AM
Lol someone likes ps3!

It's the only console with VF5 right now...  :(
Title: Re: PS3 sucks? We blame society - Sony in the latest EGM
Post by: MrAngryFace on February 14, 2007, 01:40:27 AM
:(
Title: Re: PS3 sucks? We blame society - Sony in the latest EGM
Post by: demi on February 14, 2007, 01:41:57 AM
MAF, what are you trying to do here?  Emulate the worst of GAF's gaming forum discussions?

He is emulating EviLore
Title: Re: PS3 sucks? We blame society - Sony in the latest EGM
Post by: MrAngryFace on February 14, 2007, 01:43:33 AM
Emulating? What if I AM evilore?! *spins into vortex*
Title: Re: PS3 sucks? We blame society - Sony in the latest EGM
Post by: demi on February 14, 2007, 01:45:03 AM
I wouldn't put it past you.
Title: Re: PS3 sucks? We blame society - Sony in the latest EGM
Post by: Mondain on February 14, 2007, 02:53:32 AM
how ridiculous is that for a magazine written by supposed game journalists to feature a fourteen pages-long editorial article disguised as news that is basically dedicated to infantile system trolling... there goes any sense of neutrality and professionalism

God how low EGM has fallen, never reading another issue again
Title: Re: PS3 sucks? We blame society - Sony in the latest EGM
Post by: Yeti on February 14, 2007, 03:21:07 AM
how ridiculous is that for a magazine written by supposed game journalists to feature a fourteen pages-long editorial article disguised as news that is basically dedicated to infantile system trolling... there goes any sense of neutrality and professionalism

God how low EGM has fallen, never reading another issue again

 ::)
Title: Re: PS3 sucks? We blame society - Sony in the latest EGM
Post by: BlackMage on February 14, 2007, 04:17:24 AM
bah, who cares about the console market! Handhelds FTW
Title: Re: PS3 sucks? We blame society - Sony in the latest EGM
Post by: CajoleJuice on February 14, 2007, 10:11:43 AM
PS2  :bow
Title: Re: PS3 sucks? We blame society - Sony in the latest EGM
Post by: MrAngryFace on February 14, 2007, 10:47:19 AM
Id agree with you jotaro if half of the incriminating text didnt come from the president of Sony of America lol
Title: Re: PS3 sucks? We blame society - Sony in the latest EGM
Post by: VALIS on February 14, 2007, 03:02:00 PM
how ridiculous is that for a magazine written by supposed game journalists to feature a fourteen pages-long editorial article disguised as news that is basically dedicated to infantile system trolling... there goes any sense of neutrality and professionalism

God how low EGM has fallen, never reading another issue again

Wow. And what did you think about Shoe and EGM when they blasted Peter Moore around this time last year for a 360 launch riddled with problems? I despise this 14-year old, "the media iz biased" dumbfuck mentality that has spread throughout most gaming forums these days. THIS, and the Peter Moore thing last year, are among the few examples of video game journalists actually acting like journalists.
Title: Re: PS3 sucks? We blame society - Sony in the latest EGM
Post by: Saint Cornelius on February 14, 2007, 04:02:41 PM
I love my 360, my DS, my Dreamcast and my Vectrex

oh and you should all play Phantom Dust

*claps hands* that should about cover it
Title: Re: PS3 sucks? We blame society - Sony in the latest EGM
Post by: MrAngryFace on February 14, 2007, 05:07:22 PM
The responses are what make the interview, and the questions asked are honestly no brainers. EGM knows Sony won't back away from the press with these questions cause right now Sony needs all the friends they can get, even if these 'friends' are parading them around asking the tough questions.
Title: Re: PS3 sucks? We blame society - Sony in the latest EGM
Post by: Van Cruncheon on February 14, 2007, 05:23:52 PM
these are the articles EGM should be writing. Sony has made it clear that they wanna coast on brand name, just as MS tried to excuse a totally borked launch. none of the questions were biased. in another three months, i expect them to ask Nintendo WHERE DA GAMES AT.
Title: Re: PS3 sucks? We blame society - Sony in the latest EGM
Post by: Mondain on February 14, 2007, 05:26:18 PM
how ridiculous is that for a magazine written by supposed game journalists to feature a fourteen pages-long editorial article disguised as news that is basically dedicated to infantile system trolling... there goes any sense of neutrality and professionalism

God how low EGM has fallen, never reading another issue again

Wow. And what did you think about Shoe and EGM when they blasted Peter Moore around this time last year for a 360 launch riddled with problems? I despise this 14-year old, "the media iz biased" dumbfuck mentality that has spread throughout most gaming forums these days. THIS, and the Peter Moore thing last year, are among the few examples of video game journalists actually acting like journalists.

the last comment was more in referrence to EGM's 14 pages-long PlayStation 3 feature and its cover with the splashed tomato

concerning the Peter Moore interview of last year, it seemed like a good initiative though I didn't think much of it, and it's same thing with this interview with the Sony guy, it's not any different from the typical rosy replies that any businessman doing his job would say, so I don't understand why anyone goes apeshit over it

but the crew who does them is now piss-poor when it comes to credibility-- these are the same 1UP editors that do news articles where they gloat and give their opinions when they'd be supposed to be neutral and strictly informative-- also, the few of them who post on GAF basically all seem to be huge, infantile Xbots, a trait that they clearly show in EGM articles in places where journalists normally shouldn't
Title: Re: PS3 sucks? We blame society - Sony in the latest EGM
Post by: VALIS on February 14, 2007, 05:54:25 PM
how ridiculous is that for a magazine written by supposed game journalists to feature a fourteen pages-long editorial article disguised as news that is basically dedicated to infantile system trolling... there goes any sense of neutrality and professionalism

God how low EGM has fallen, never reading another issue again

Wow. And what did you think about Shoe and EGM when they blasted Peter Moore around this time last year for a 360 launch riddled with problems? I despise this 14-year old, "the media iz biased" dumbfuck mentality that has spread throughout most gaming forums these days. THIS, and the Peter Moore thing last year, are among the few examples of video game journalists actually acting like journalists.

the last comment was more in referrence to EGM's 14 pages-long PlayStation 3 feature and its cover with the splashed tomato

concerning the Peter Moore interview of last year, it seemed like a good initiative though I didn't think much of it, and it's same thing with this interview with the Sony guy, it's not any different from the typical rosy replies that any businessman doing his job would say, so I don't understand why anyone goes apeshit over it

but the crew who does them is now piss-poor when it comes to credibility-- these are the same 1UP editors that do news articles where they gloat and give their opinions when they'd be supposed to be neutral and strictly informative-- also, the few of them who post on GAF basically all seem to be huge, infantile Xbots, a trait that they clearly show in EGM articles in places where journalists normally shouldn't

I assume you're talking about Luke Smith? Because Garnett, Mielke, Greg Ford, they hardly ever seem to post there, and Jared Rea/alkaline black doesn't really strike me as an Xbot. And you're wrong about the "strictly informative" thing. If they're just reporting news, okay. But an interview is an entirely different matter. Interviews should be probing, and the questions should reflect recent events. Most of Sony's recent events have been negative. I know a lot of dyed in the wool Sony fans are sick of hearing about it, but it is what it is. Their recent missteps really have been the biggest story in gaming in the past 12+ months, and this is going to continue to be a hot topic until it changes.

So...

a. What does Luke Smith have to do with EGM having a pointed interview with Tretton or recapping the PS3's missteps? He works under the same parent company, sometimes even writes for EGM, but had nothing to do with those two pieces.

b. Why shouldn't they write those pieces when they're legitimate stories/trends? I long for the day when more traditional/mainstream journalism methods take over the field instead of endless preview puff pieces and fanboy slobbers we usually get now.

And as far as Luke goes, while he can be trollish sometimes, he gives it to MS just as hard when they do or allow something that's consumer unfriendly.

Title: Re: PS3 sucks? We blame society - Sony in the latest EGM
Post by: MrAngryFace on February 14, 2007, 06:09:18 PM
how ridiculous is that for a magazine written by supposed game journalists to feature a fourteen pages-long editorial article disguised as news that is basically dedicated to infantile system trolling... there goes any sense of neutrality and professionalism

God how low EGM has fallen, never reading another issue again

Wow. And what did you think about Shoe and EGM when they blasted Peter Moore around this time last year for a 360 launch riddled with problems? I despise this 14-year old, "the media iz biased" dumbfuck mentality that has spread throughout most gaming forums these days. THIS, and the Peter Moore thing last year, are among the few examples of video game journalists actually acting like journalists.

the last comment was more in referrence to EGM's 14 pages-long PlayStation 3 feature and its cover with the splashed tomato

concerning the Peter Moore interview of last year, it seemed like a good initiative though I didn't think much of it, and it's same thing with this interview with the Sony guy, it's not any different from the typical rosy replies that any businessman doing his job would say, so I don't understand why anyone goes apeshit over it

but the crew who does them is now piss-poor when it comes to credibility-- these are the same 1UP editors that do news articles where they gloat and give their opinions when they'd be supposed to be neutral and strictly informative-- also, the few of them who post on GAF basically all seem to be huge, infantile Xbots, a trait that they clearly show in EGM articles in places where journalists normally shouldn't

It is impossible to review videogames or PROVIDE COMMENTARY ON THE INDUSTRY IF YOU ARE NEUTRAL! dumbass.
Title: Re: PS3 sucks? We blame society - Sony in the latest EGM
Post by: Oblivion on February 14, 2007, 08:12:15 PM
So did I, I like my gamecube :(

You bought yours late in its life cycle, when they practically gave them away.  I bought one at launch.  And after a promising start, it lost steam quick.

Luigi's Mansion was a promising start?  :lol
Title: Re: PS3 sucks? We blame society - Sony in the latest EGM
Post by: The Sceneman on February 14, 2007, 08:13:47 PM
Yes it was. Rogue Leader and REmake were good too.
Title: Re: PS3 sucks? We blame society - Sony in the latest EGM
Post by: The Fake Shemp on February 14, 2007, 08:18:57 PM
Luigi's Mansion was a promising start?  :lol

Who the fuck bought Luigi's Mansion.  Shit like Wave Race, Rogue Leader, Super Monkey Ball, Super Smash Bros. Melee and a bunch of third-party support (like Capcom!) came on pretty early, but evaporated quickly.
Title: Re: PS3 sucks? We blame society - Sony in the latest EGM
Post by: Oblivion on February 14, 2007, 08:24:51 PM
Luigi's Mansion was a promising start?  :lol

Who the fuck bought Luigi's Mansion.  Shit like Wave Race, Rogue Leader, Super Monkey Ball, Super Smash Bros. Melee and a bunch of third-party support (like Capcom!) came on pretty early, but evaporated quickly.

Oh, right. THOSE games. When I think of GC's launch the first thing that comes to mind is LM, so that's what I assumed you was getting at. CARRY ON THEN SIR
Title: Re: PS3 sucks? We blame society - Sony in the latest EGM
Post by: Idioteque on February 14, 2007, 08:48:14 PM
I own one and I've enjoyed it, but I wouldn't of bought a PS3 if I hadn't gotten one as christmas gift.The system just needs more games. I've played the hell out of Resistence and the Gran Turismo HD demo and need a new game really badly!

Thank god VF5 is coming out next week!
Title: Re: PS3 sucks? We blame society - Sony in the latest EGM
Post by: MrAngryFace on February 15, 2007, 03:01:48 AM
VF5 is the ps3 game TO OWN.. too bad I dont want a ps3 lol