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General => Video Game Bored => Topic started by: mojovonio on February 14, 2007, 07:18:37 PM

Title: so.... in MGS4 Snake is old, but there's a new clone?
Post by: mojovonio on February 14, 2007, 07:18:37 PM: or what?

I've been reading through all of the plot summaries for the game, and just can't understand why Snake would suddenly turn old.

Fuck Kojima knows how to fuck with people.
Title: Re: so.... in MGS4 Snake is old, but there's a new clone?
Post by: The Sceneman on February 14, 2007, 07:20:50 PM: I saw the pictures of old Snake and naturally I assumed that the game takes place a while after MGS2. Makes sense....
Title: Re: so.... in MGS4 Snake is old, but there's a new clone?
Post by: AdmiralViscen on February 14, 2007, 07:24:43 PM: Fuck the plot of this series.
Title: Re: so.... in MGS4 Snake is old, but there's a new clone?
Post by: The Fake Shemp on February 14, 2007, 07:36:37 PM: Did you guys not play the games? Snake is a genetic clone, that like Solidius, will rapidly age.
Title: Re: so.... in MGS4 Snake is old, but there's a new clone?
Post by: Idioteque on February 14, 2007, 08:40:10 PM: I thought the reason he ages rapidly, is because he was infected with foxdie?
Title: Re: so.... in MGS4 Snake is old, but there's a new clone?
Post by: The Fake Shemp on February 14, 2007, 08:48:39 PM: Apparently, the rapid degeneration effect is from the cloning process, hence Snake's new look in MGS4. I guess as someone said, that you're looking for coherency and answers in a MGS storyline - you're not going to get it.
Title: Re: so.... in MGS4 Snake is old, but there's a new clone?
Post by: Mupepe on February 14, 2007, 09:29:14 PM: Quote from: Willco on February 14, 2007, 07:36:37 PM
Did you guys not play the games? Snake is a genetic clone, that like Solidius, will rapidly age.
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Title: Re: so.... in MGS4 Snake is old, but there's a new clone?
Post by: Himu on February 14, 2007, 09:31:14 PM: No wonder you guys don't understand MGS's plot, you don't even bother paying attention. The reason Snake is old is because he's the failed clone of Big Boss, and he has Big Boss's recessive genes. So while he is awesome, he gets old quicker.
Title: Re: so.... in MGS4 Snake is old, but there's a new clone?
Post by: Himu on February 14, 2007, 09:51:09 PM: I dunno. I've been on media blackout for almost a year now. I haven't seen the TGS trailer.
Title: Re: so.... in MGS4 Snake is old, but there's a new clone?
Post by: The Fake Shemp on February 14, 2007, 10:05:45 PM: I don't think there's a new clone - just the same three as before: Liquid, Solid and Solidius.
Title: Re: so.... in MGS4 Snake is old, but there's a new clone?
Post by: BlueTsunami on February 14, 2007, 10:07:54 PM: Well the last released vid showed a character that looks like a younger Snake. Its probably Kojima trying to mindfuck the fanbase again but yeah.

and I also believe that its always been known that Snake being a clone has caused him to age faster.
Title: Re: so.... in MGS4 Snake is old, but there's a new clone?
Post by: Himu on February 14, 2007, 10:09:07 PM: Yes, indeed. It has been since the first MGS. Not just because he's a clone, but because he has BB's recessive genes.
Title: Re: so.... in MGS4 Snake is old, but there's a new clone?
Post by: The Sceneman on February 14, 2007, 10:13:09 PM: Metal Gear Solid 6 on PS5 is gonna be awesome
Title: Re: so.... in MGS4 Snake is old, but there's a new clone?
Post by: Himu on February 14, 2007, 10:15:22 PM: I really really hope this is the last MGS.

You fucks need to let Kojima move the fuck on. I cannot WAIT for his collab. project with Suda 51. HISTORY IN THE MAKING.
Title: Re: so.... in MGS4 Snake is old, but there's a new clone?
Post by: BlueTsunami on February 14, 2007, 10:16:54 PM: This game is just the perfect culmination of things (when it comes to the story)

We HAD the prequel...learned about Big Boss and now where in the future and we'll have closure. I agree this needs to be the last one.
Title: Re: so.... in MGS4 Snake is old, but there's a new clone?
Post by: The Fake Shemp on February 14, 2007, 10:18:09 PM: They should just do sidestories on the PSP forever. I'm realy enjoying Metal Gear Solid: Porable Ops.

spoiler (click to show/hide)
I just fought the RAXA, the prototype of the first Metal Gear - woo!
[close]
Title: Re: so.... in MGS4 Snake is old, but there's a new clone?
Post by: Himu on February 14, 2007, 10:21:16 PM: Get MGA, Willco.
Title: Re: so.... in MGS4 Snake is old, but there's a new clone?
Post by: The Sceneman on February 14, 2007, 10:24:04 PM: Quote from: Himuro on February 14, 2007, 10:15:22 PM

You fucks need to let Kojima move the fuck on. I cannot WAIT for his collab. project with Suda 51. HISTORY IN THE MAKING.

Holy shit has this been confirmed? It would undoubtledy be one of the best games ever made. I love Suda 51 :-[
Title: Re: so.... in MGS4 Snake is old, but there's a new clone?
Post by: Himu on February 14, 2007, 10:25:48 PM: Yes. They're doing a collab. after their respective current projects are complete.
Title: Re: so.... in MGS4 Snake is old, but there's a new clone?
Post by: BlueTsunami on February 14, 2007, 10:28:05 PM: It seems like Kojima will end the series here too. I remember him stating that he wants to get "This monster out of the way" (referring to the MGS series). In a way...I would love him to take like a decade break away from the game...and come out with the next iteration on PS4 :lol

and do that for the rest of his life! One MGS per generation

Actually...thats what he kinda does already...I mean release one far far down the line...
Title: Re: so.... in MGS4 Snake is old, but there's a new clone?
Post by: The Sceneman on February 14, 2007, 10:32:17 PM: He will probably make in prequel trilogy in 20 years time.
Title: Re: so.... in MGS4 Snake is old, but there's a new clone?
Post by: Beezy on February 15, 2007, 12:14:11 AM: Quote from: Himuro on February 14, 2007, 09:31:14 PM
No wonder you guys don't understand MGS's plot, you don't even bother paying attention. The reason Snake is old is because he's the failed clone of Big Boss, and he has Big Boss's recessive genes. So while he is awesome, he gets old quicker.

Didn't Liquid said that he got all of Big Boss's recessive genes? ???
Title: Re: so.... in MGS4 Snake is old, but there's a new clone?
Post by: Himu on February 15, 2007, 12:18:29 AM: Liquid was mistaken. It was a ploy to make him attempt to get Big Boss's remains and shit for Ocelot if I remember. Why do you think Liquid always survived all those times? Because he's stronger. He just wouldn't fucking die.
Title: Re: so.... in MGS4 Snake is old, but there's a new clone?
Post by: BlueTsunami on February 15, 2007, 12:20:26 AM: I just want to state how fucken AWESOME the Wiki fo the Metal Gear Solid series is...wow...just wow...

This is just the list of recurring characters

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_recurring_Metal_Gear_characters

:bow

and Himu is correct, Liquid has the dominant genes
Title: Re: so.... in MGS4 Snake is old, but there's a new clone?
Post by: The Fake Shemp on February 15, 2007, 12:21:42 AM: I typed this on my PSP, just wanted you guys to know that.
Title: Re: so.... in MGS4 Snake is old, but there's a new clone?
Post by: Himu on February 15, 2007, 12:22:28 AM: will get mga.
Title: Re: so.... in MGS4 Snake is old, but there's a new clone?
Post by: Beezy on February 15, 2007, 12:26:57 AM: Quote from: Himuro on February 15, 2007, 12:18:29 AM
Liquid was mistaken. It was a ploy to make him attempt to get Big Boss's remains and shit for Ocelot if I remember. Why do you think Liquid always survived all those times? Because he's stronger. He just wouldn't fucking die.

Oh, okay. I first played MGS1 for PS this past summer and I didn't get a chance to beat Liquid because I had to give it back to my friend. I guess they tell you that at the end.
Title: Re: so.... in MGS4 Snake is old, but there's a new clone?
Post by: The Fake Shemp on February 15, 2007, 12:28:20 AM: Card games are for losers. Also, I lost 3 out of 4 of my squad playing Cyber-Survival :(
Title: Re: so.... in MGS4 Snake is old, but there's a new clone?
Post by: Himu on February 15, 2007, 12:30:58 AM: Quote from: Beezy on February 15, 2007, 12:26:57 AM
Quote from: Himuro on February 15, 2007, 12:18:29 AM
Liquid was mistaken. It was a ploy to make him attempt to get Big Boss's remains and shit for Ocelot if I remember. Why do you think Liquid always survived all those times? Because he's stronger. He just wouldn't fucking die.

Oh, okay. I first played MGS1 for PS this past summer and I didn't get a chance to beat Liquid because I had to give it back to my friend. I guess they tell you that at the end.

Yeah.
Title: Re: so.... in MGS4 Snake is old, but there's a new clone?
Post by: brawndolicious on February 15, 2007, 01:35:51 AM: Actually clones are supposed to live longer then the real things but they usually fuck it up I guess and they die quickly.

Of course there's no reason why one clone will live longer than another.

Or why they would look different, isn't that extra effort?
Title: Re: so.... in MGS4 Snake is old, but there's a new clone?
Post by: BlueTsunami on February 15, 2007, 01:40:55 AM: Well, it seems as though they are not exact carbon copy clones. The genes were split in some way (Hence one getting the represive, the other dominant etc)?

I've forgotten my MGS lore.
Title: Re: so.... in MGS4 Snake is old, but there's a new clone?
Post by: TVC15 on February 15, 2007, 02:01:56 AM: You fegs need to keep in mind that Kojima said he was stepping down from MGS after 2 and again after 3. He always comes back. By shitty animu standards, the MGS story isn't near convoluted. He can do these games forever.
Title: Re: so.... in MGS4 Snake is old, but there's a new clone?
Post by: brawndolicious on February 15, 2007, 02:03:21 AM: but you don't split them like pluses and minuses, there are like 6 acids, they make templates for everything in the body to be built on, there's no reason to make stronger genes by making a weaker clone.

why the fuck would they even make a clone if they seperated out everything they need, wouldn't you have to start everything over just to make shit?