Because most rappers are illiterate, self-serving cunts with no musical ability.
As are alot of rockers.
::)
I'd pretty much file you in the "wannabe" illiterate, self-serving cunt category.
However, even in the worst raps you will find a bit of wit in there.
racism old white men cant stand to see blacks successfulThat is sofa king we todd did
Seriously... I like rock and rap. But one thing that's bothered me about rock is that the lyrics are so fucking boring/mundane/un-clever. However, even in the worst raps you will find a bit of wit in there. So why do people, particularly white people, shit all over rap lyrics?
Seriously... I like rock and rap. But one thing that's bothered me about rock is that the lyrics are so fucking boring/mundane/un-clever. However, even in the worst raps you will find a bit of wit in there. So why do people, particularly white people, shit all over rap lyrics?
Maybe because rock includes actual musicians who actually know how to write music and use intruments?
I've wondered about this too.I ANSWERED! MY ANSWER IS SERIOUS AND CORRECT!
Yeah, but I'm pretty sure that rap lyrics got shat on even back then.
Yeah, but I'm pretty sure that rap lyrics got shat on even back then.
Rap will always be shat on more than other genres because of its lack of any sort of intrumental/musical intergrity. Is a rapper a musician? Can the great rap producers like Dr Dre and Timbaland be compared to Quincy Jones, who actually composed his own music instead of taking it from others and looping it? These are questions serious music fans ask, fair or not fair.
I have yet to hear a rock song that falls anywhere near the level of ignorance or plain stupidity as Laffy Taffy. Sorry.
One of the pillars of rap is lyricism. In the 80's guys in the city would attempt to best each other with the best and wittiest lyrics they could come up with; guys like Rakim really personified this. In the 90s the tradition was carried on by Nas, Biggie, etc. Today, the majority of rap is filled with cats who simply cannot rap, period. It's pathetic
Both producers you named are classically trained musical artists. Also, you forget to mention Kanye West, who has quite a few musical arrangements to his credit. It goes without saying that most successful producers are pretty damn good at playing regular instruments. If making beats is so easy, why don't you do it? There is plenty of musical integrity in rap. I think there's just a lot of racist/ignorant bias that lends it to be shat on.
Laffy taffy has some pretty clever use of poetic devices. Not to mention it all rhymes, and it's said to a beat. Again, if the lyrics in these songs are so bad, and so easy to make why don't you do it yourself and make some quick money and at the same time score some pussy?
:lol poetic device :lol
tbs is to educated literary analysis what pd is to movie criticism and political observation
i'm seein' a pattern here
Yea the stuff he did with dre was fantastic.
What about the beastie boys?
Let freedom ring with a buckshot, but not just yet
First we need to truly understand the nature of the threat
And a pale man walks in the threshold of darkness
Roughly 20,000 years ago the first humans evolved
With the phenotypical trait, genetic recessive
Blue eyes, blonde hair and white skin
Albinism apparently was a sin to the original man, africans
So the mutants traveled north of the equator
Called europeans later, the first race haters
So heres the devils alpha to the beta
Cause historys best qualified to teach one
Quoting german philosopher schopenhauer
Every white man is a faded or a bleached one
Migration created further mutation
Genetic drifts, evolution through recombination
Adaptation to the climate
As the caucus mountain man reverted to that of a primate
Savage neanderthals, until the late paleolithic age
Thats when the black grimaldi man came
With the symbol of the dragon, fire and art
Check cave paintings in france and spain to the venus of willendorf
Around 2000 b.c. southern russians migrate in small units
Those who travel west populated europe
Those who went east settled in iran, known as aryans
1500 b.c. some crossed the khyber pass into india and
Created hinduism, the first caste system, the origins of racism
A white dot on the forehead meant elite
The black dot - defeat; untrustable, untouchables
They wrote the holy vedas in sanskrit
Thats the language that created greek, german, latin and english
Wait, who the fuck are we kidding, you're as white as Shake, Ken.
spoken like the suburban white kid you are
LOL, is that a popular song? That is hilarious.
YAHH BITCH YAHH
Is there an mp3 of that? LOL
God, you're such a loud mouthed little bitch. :lol
I have yet to hear a rock song that falls anywhere near the level of ignorance or plain stupidity as Laffy Taffy. Sorry.
One of the pillars of rap is lyricism. In the 80's guys in the city would attempt to best each other with the best and wittiest lyrics they could come up with; guys like Rakim really personified this. In the 90s the tradition was carried on by Nas, Biggie, etc. Today, the majority of rap is filled with cats who simply cannot rap, period. It's pathetic
I have yet to hear a rock song that falls anywhere near the level of ignorance or plain stupidity as Laffy Taffy. Sorry.
One of the pillars of rap is lyricism. In the 80's guys in the city would attempt to best each other with the best and wittiest lyrics they could come up with; guys like Rakim really personified this. In the 90s the tradition was carried on by Nas, Biggie, etc. Today, the majority of rap is filled with cats who simply cannot rap, period. It's pathetic
qft
True enough, but is that shit mainstream rock? I don't know... When I compare mainstream rock and rap together, both are shit with a few exceptions, but the thing that sticks out with mainstream rap is that the lyrics (the foundation behind rap) is often really really really bad. When you compare that to say, rock, usually you'll find a jam that's at least listenable, but when you hear bs like chicken noodle soup you want to kill yourself.
Now you're abandoning your original point completely.
True enough, but is that shit mainstream rock? I don't know... When I compare mainstream rock and rap together, both are shit with a few exceptions, but the thing that sticks out with mainstream rap is that the lyrics (the foundation behind rap) is often really really really bad. When you compare that to say, rock, usually you'll find a jam that's at least listenable, but when you hear bs like chicken noodle soup you want to kill yourself.
Re-read my initial post. I'm on my original point.
True enough, but is that shit mainstream rock? I don't know... When I compare mainstream rock and rap together, both are shit with a few exceptions, but the thing that sticks out with mainstream rap is that the lyrics (the foundation behind rap) is often really really really bad. When you compare that to say, rock, usually you'll find a jam that's at least listenable, but when you hear bs like chicken noodle soup you want to kill yourself.
Chicken Noodle Soup isn't even rap! I don't know what that shit is!
Re-read my initial post. I'm on my original point.
No, your original point is that even the worst rap lyrics best rock lyrics, which you claim are spared by the obvious racist media. Everyone called you on your bullshit and now your point is that the best rap lyrics are superior to the best rock lyrics.
You were called on your ignorance - now man up, say you were wrong.
Mainstream hip hop lyrics are most comprised of inspirational lines telling listeners to make money, get women and use violence to solve problems. In hip hop, making money used to be a byproduct of making music, but now they're told that you should make music to make money. It's garbage. I've been told this firsthand by legitimate black artists who I've had the pleasure of speaking with candidly off stage, including Sage Francis and DJ Kool. I don't speak from experience, but I will speak from their experience.
Was hip hop at its peak more creative than rock in its peak? Who the fuck knows, as it's completely subjective.
But if you wonder why nobody respects hip hop, especially in terms of lyrics, over modern day rock, the answer is pretty simple - the message it sends out is complete garbage.
PD obviously hasn't heard to Industrial music or Death metal.
As an aside every once in a while you hear a rapper trying to "do" rock and it's always complete trash. Point me to anything that demonstrates otherwise.
Uh
Because rap overglorifies the worst aspects of man, and gives an awful sterotype to black people. I hate rap videos, if only for the hot girls:drool but still it's just so fucking trash.
mainstream rap imo is so trashy and stupid no wonder it's getting the flack it does, I mean just compare rap/hip hop to ten years ago where it was fun, fresh, and didnt' make black people seem like gangsters who care about drugs and fucking bitches.
Because rap is shit.
What? you wanted an answer, you got the right one.
Did I say anything racist?Because rap is shit.
What? you wanted an answer, you got the right one.
Didn't I say racist weren't allowed? You look like the type of person that mutters "n!gger" under his breath after being slighted or bested by a black person in any way.
Rob the jewelry store and tell 'em make me a grill.
Dirrty, R&B.
Add da whole top diamond and the bottom Row's gold.
[J.D.]
Yo we bout to start a epidemic wit dis one
Ya'll know what dis is... So So Def
[Nelly]
Got 30 down at the bottom, 30 mo at the top
All invisible set in little ice cube blocks
If I could call it a drink, call it a smile on da rocks
If I could call out a price, let's say I call out a lot
I got like platinum and white gold, traditional gold
I'm changin grillz errday, like Jay change clothes,
I might be grilled out nicely (oh) In my white tee (oh),
On South beach (oh) in my wife beat.
V V and studded you can tell when they cut it
Ya see my granmama hate it, but my lil mama love it
Cuz when I...
[Woman]
Open up ya mouth, ya grill gleamin (say what)
Eyes stay low from da cheifin'
[Nelly]
I got a grill I call penny candy you know what that means,
It look like Now n Laters, gum drops, jelly beans
I wouldn't leave it for nothin only a crazy man would
So if you catch me in ya city, somewhere out in ya hood just say
[Chorus:]
Smile fo me daddy
(What you lookin at)
Let me see ya grill
(Let you see my what)
Ya, ya grill ya, ya, ya grill
(Rob da jewelry store and tell 'em make me a grill)
Smile fo me daddy
(What you lookin at)
I want to see your grill
(You wanna see my what)
Ya, ya grill ya, ya, ya grill
(Had a whole top diamonds and da bottom Row's gold)
[Paul Wall]
What it do baby
It's da ice man Paul Wall
I got my mouth lookin somethin like a disco ball
I got da diamonds and da ice all hand set
I might cause a cold front if I take a deep breath
My teeth gleaming like I'm chewin on aluminum foil
Smilein showin off my diamonds sippin on some Pinot Noir
I put my money where my mouth is and bought a grill
20 carrots 30 stacks let 'em know im so fo real
My motivation is them 30 pointers V VS the furniture my mouth
Piece simply symbolize success
I got da wrist wear and neck wear dats captivatin
But it's my smile dats got these on-lookers spectatin
My mouth piece simply certified a total package
Open up my mouth and you see mo carrots than a salad
My teeth are mind blowin givin everybody chillz
Call me George Foreman cuz I'm sellin everybody grillz
[Chorus]
[Gipp]
Gipp got dem yellows, got dem purples, got dem reds
Lights gon hit ya and make you woozie in ya head
You can catch me in my 2 short drop
Mouth got colors like a fruit loop box
[Ali]
Dis what it do when da lou
Ice grill Country Grammar
Where da hustlas move bricks
and da gangsta's bang hamma's
Where I got em you can spot them
On da top in da bottom
Gotta bill in my mouth like im Hillary Rodham
[Gipp]
I ain't dissin no body but lets bring it to da lite
Gipp was da first wit my mouth bright white
Yeah deez hos can't focus cuz they eyesight blurry
Tippin on some 4's you can see my mouth jewelry
[Ali]
I got fo different sets its a fabolous thang
1 white, 1 yellow, like Fabolous chain
and da otha set is same got my name in da mold
(Had a whole top diamonds and da bottom Row's gold)
[Chorus]
[Woman]
Boy how you get grill that way and
How much did you pay
Every time I see you
Tha first thing I'm gon' say hey.....
[Chorus]
Call me George Foreman cuz I'm sellin everybody grillz
Er, um, we need a name that's witty at first, but that seems less funny each time you hear it.
I guess I'll add that every rap concert I've ever been to has been boring as fuck. No band members playing music. You'll be lucky if there's even a D.J. with turntables now. Most just bring recordings and press play. All you have to entertain you is some guy talking with a funny accent. Do you want to know why Jay-Z has 50 people dancing around him when he's onstage? It's because he doesn't want you to notice that all he's doing is walking around and talking. He's quite the entertainer in mainstream rap.
I hate it when people say "They have no talent" That's just distinguished mentally-challenged.
You try rhyming and doing it well. I bet you couldn't come close to making shit sound good like Nas, or Pac, or JayZ.
Doubt you can do it. Even if you play guitar. :P
I hate it when people say "They have no talent" That's just distinguished mentally-challenged.
You try rhyming and doing it well. I bet you couldn't come close to making shit sound good like Nas, or Pac, or JayZ.
Doubt you can do it. Even if you play guitar. :P
Yeah I could if I was a swagga jacka!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bED9wMqQ1i8
:lol
I hate it when people say "They have no talent" That's just distinguished mentally-challenged.
You try rhyming and doing it well. I bet you couldn't come close to making shit sound good like Nas, or Pac, or JayZ.
Doubt you can do it. Even if you play guitar. :P
Yeah I could if I was a swagga jacka!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bED9wMqQ1i8
:lol
:lol :lol :lol touche home boy.
I retract my mention of JayZ and substitute him w/ Lil Wayne. That work? :)
I hate it when people say "They have no talent" That's just distinguished mentally-challenged.
You try rhyming and doing it well. I bet you couldn't come close to making shit sound good like Nas, or Pac, or JayZ.
Doubt you can do it. Even if you play guitar. :P
Yeah I could if I was a swagga jacka!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bED9wMqQ1i8
:lol
:lol :lol :lol touche home boy.
I retract my mention of JayZ and substitute him w/ Lil Wayne. That work? :)
Lil Wayne? >:(
I can't believe so many people consider him to be omg amazing. I WILL ADMIT that he's impressed me recently with some stuff, but then there's the Fiya Man single ughh. Maybe I should download one of his so called classic albums...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AkKaK9DAz7M
I can't help but like this song
I hate it when people say "They have no talent" That's just distinguished mentally-challenged.
You try rhyming and doing it well. I bet you couldn't come close to making shit sound good like Nas, or Pac, or JayZ.
Doubt you can do it. Even if you play guitar. :P
Yeah I could if I was a swagga jacka!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bED9wMqQ1i8
:lol
:rofl
nicca what'chu gotta say bout the king of yo city now?
:rofl
nicca what'chu gotta say bout the king of yo city now?
King of my city? I was never a big Jay-Z fan. I liked some of his songs, but I never understood why people always acted like he was the greatest ever/alive. That just made me hate him even more.
:rofl
nicca what'chu gotta say bout the king of yo city now?
King of my city? I was never a big Jay-Z fan. I liked some of his songs, but I never understood why people always acted like he was the greatest ever/alive. That just made me hate him even more.
Nas>Jay-Z?
Don't get me wrong, Jay-Z is a great rapper. But overall I don't think he touches Nas in terms of lyrics. Jay has a better catalog imo though. Nas has Illmatic, then a bunch of mediocre (to say the least) stuff although I haven't heard it all. HHID is good. Haven't heard the other stuff.
But THIS is fuckin amazing
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yHkx3ETjSK4
Don't get me wrong, Jay-Z is a great rapper. But overall I don't think he touches Nas in terms of lyrics. Jay has a better catalog imo though. Nas has Illmatic, then a bunch of mediocre (to say the least) stuff although I haven't heard it all. HHID is good. Haven't heard the other stuff.
But THIS is fuckin amazing
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yHkx3ETjSK4
"Illmatic" is a classic.
"And It was Written" Has some of the best rhyming I've ever heard.
Don't get me wrong, Jay-Z is a great rapper. But overall I don't think he touches Nas in terms of lyrics. Jay has a better catalog imo though. Nas has Illmatic, then a bunch of mediocre (to say the least) stuff although I haven't heard it all. HHID is good. Haven't heard the other stuff.
But THIS is fuckin amazing
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yHkx3ETjSK4
"Illmatic" is a classic.
"And It was Written" Has some of the best rhyming I've ever heard.
Illmatic is amazing. So many classics.
Haven't heard all of And It was Written. But all that bling bling rap Nas started doing was omg wtf
Illmatic is amazing. So many classics.
Haven't heard all of And It was Written. But all that bling bling rap Nas started doing was omg wtf
I hate it when people say "They have no talent" That's just distinguished mentally-challenged.
You try rhyming and doing it well. I bet you couldn't come close to making shit sound good like Nas, or Pac, or JayZ.
Doubt you can do it. Even if you play guitar. :P
Yeah I could if I was a swagga jacka!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bED9wMqQ1i8
:lol
:lol :lol :lol touche home boy.
I retract my mention of JayZ and substitute him w/ Lil Wayne. That work? :)
Lil Wayne? >:(
I can't believe so many people consider him to be omg amazing. I WILL ADMIT that he's impressed me recently with some stuff, but then there's the Fiya Man single ughh. Maybe I should download one of his so called classic albums...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AkKaK9DAz7M
I can't help but like this song
No dude, it's pretty good. Aside from Fire Man or whatever the fuck, and some other song I forgot, the album is pretty damn good.
Check out Earthquake. I tried to get a youtube of it, but alas. THere's only this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JV2VDoraVEU
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