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General => The Superdeep Borehole => Topic started by: omg_lemurs on March 02, 2007, 12:53:52 AM

Title: Getting a new MP3 player.
Post by: omg_lemurs on March 02, 2007, 12:53:52 AM: Do I get a new iAudio X5... or do I get a Cowon D2.

My X5 done broke. I put it in and out of my pocket in my jeans a lot and there's a large 1/8 plug on my headphones and it fucked up my MP3 player. The X5 is pretty much the greatest MP3 player ever... it served me well. I want to get a new one.

BUT I also want to try my hand at a flash based MP3 player. I was never interested before until I saw this:

http://www.cowonamerica.com/products/cowon/d2/

It is another Cowon player yes. But I've never been interested in any of their other flash based MP3 players either. The thing that caught my eye about this one is the battery life (52 hours for music), touch screen UI, high quality video playback, SD card slot, 4gb, uber functionality.

It's a do everything player like the X5 and that's what I love. I need something that lets me fiddle around and tweak various aspects of the playback and this player offers that. But... it's a flash based player and I like having a player that can carry all my music. However the fact that this has an SD card slot which not a whole lot of players these days have... makes things much more interesting. I could certainly spend a shit load of money and buy multiple 4 GB SD cards but... that's expensive.

If only the X5 had such a nice screen and 52 hours of playback. :[

I have my mind settled on one of these two players but if there's something else out there as functional I'd love to know about it.
Title: Re: Getting a new MP3 player.
Post by: Vizzys on March 02, 2007, 01:05:35 AM: that looks so much like the iriver clix

http://www.amazon.com/iRiver-CXW-4G-Digital-Music-Player/dp/B000KTHYQ4/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/103-8615502-6342225?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1172813958&sr=8-1
Title: Re: Getting a new MP3 player.
Post by: Van Cruncheon on March 02, 2007, 01:06:44 AM: just give it up and get an iPod like the rest of the civilized world you silly thing
Title: Re: Getting a new MP3 player.
Post by: Vizzys on March 02, 2007, 01:08:52 AM: ipods are terrible

lemurs the cowon d2 isnt out yet (or I cant find it)
Title: Re: Getting a new MP3 player.
Post by: xnikki118x on March 02, 2007, 01:59:45 AM: Quote from: Drinky Crow on March 02, 2007, 01:06:44 AM
just give it up and get an iPod like the rest of the civilized world you silly thing

Go eff yourself, lemming.
Title: Re: Getting a new MP3 player.
Post by: bagofeyes on March 02, 2007, 02:00:57 AM: Quote from: Drinky Crow on March 02, 2007, 01:06:44 AM
just give it up and get an iPod like the rest of the civilized world you silly thing

Yeah, do this
Title: Re: Getting a new MP3 player.
Post by: Itch on March 02, 2007, 05:30:45 AM: I've been looking at the Cowon D2 for the past two weeks now. I'm about to make my purchase but I'm still trying to get a few things cleared up before I take the plunge. I don't have a ton of music files so I'm not too worried about the limited storage of a flash player. Right now I use my phone as my portable music player but the video functions of my phone are lacking and having a dedicated PMP would be nice since I no longer have my iPod. The only thing I'm unclear about right now is what resolution the video has to be for playback. All my videos are in MP4 format at iPod video resolution and I don't want to have to re-encode all my videos if I can avoid it.

It would have been easy to get the iPod Nano but it doesn't have video playback (might as well stick with my phone in that case), not to mention that the ability to add additional storage to the D2, among other nice features, puts it several notches above the Nano and other flash players. Also the fact that the D2 doesn't look like shit is a huge plus for me. I'm very style concious when it comes to these things and I wouldn't buy something if it didn't at least look good.

Quote from: Viz on March 02, 2007, 01:08:52 AM
ipods are terrible

lemurs the cowon d2 isnt out yet (or I cant find it)

You can get them on eBay for around $200.

Check it, http://stores.ebay.com/iAUDIO-Store
Title: Re: Getting a new MP3 player.
Post by: Vizzys on March 02, 2007, 05:43:51 AM: for around that price be better getting a creative zen vision:m which I have and rocks. :bow

I think its 230$ hdd based though
Title: Re: Getting a new MP3 player.
Post by: Van Cruncheon on March 02, 2007, 01:54:18 PM: you don't know ROCKS until you've owned an iPod

wah wah wah wah sound quality what the fuck your scabby nerd ears aren't missin' a thing
Title: Re: Getting a new MP3 player.
Post by: Saint Cornelius on March 02, 2007, 01:58:24 PM: I love this anti-iPod stance people have... it's so hilarious to me

"I'm an individual, goddamnit!" :lol
Title: Re: Getting a new MP3 player.
Post by: Flannel Boy on March 02, 2007, 01:59:04 PM: Quote from: Saint Cornelius on March 02, 2007, 01:58:24 PM
I love this anti-iPod stance people have... it's so hilarious to me

"I'm an individual, goddamnit!" :lol

I'm just poor.

$34 Lyra :pimp
Title: Re: Getting a new MP3 player.
Post by: Van Cruncheon on March 02, 2007, 02:00:16 PM: when you're a TEEN, it's important to NOT CONFORM

ironically, every teen hatin' on the ipod has a myspace
Title: Re: Getting a new MP3 player.
Post by: Saint Cornelius on March 02, 2007, 02:01:16 PM: Okay, being poor is one thing... but have you checked out Apple's refurbished store? Hella good discounts on iPods.

People who dismiss the iPod out of spite though, that's ridiculous. Assert your individuality via your DAP!
Title: Re: Getting a new MP3 player.
Post by: whiteACID on March 02, 2007, 02:08:05 PM: Speaking of, I need to get a new Ipod
Title: Re: Getting a new MP3 player.
Post by: Van Cruncheon on March 02, 2007, 02:20:53 PM: i'm rockin' out to A YOUNG JAMES HETFIELD on my nano right now
Title: Re: Getting a new MP3 player.
Post by: Itch on March 02, 2007, 03:47:36 PM: Quote from: Drinky Crow on March 02, 2007, 02:00:16 PM
when you're a TEEN, it's important to NOT CONFORM

ironically, every teen hatin' on the ipod has a myspace

Sure, if you aren't one of the popular kids.

Save the statements about "idividuality" for college.
Title: Re: Getting a new MP3 player.
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on March 02, 2007, 04:56:30 PM: I used to have a Nomad Zen. Then I sold it and got an iPod. Then I was much much much happier.
Title: Re: Getting a new MP3 player.
Post by: Mupepe on March 02, 2007, 05:10:44 PM: I love my ipod. But if you have the money, there are better things out there.
Title: Re: Getting a new MP3 player.
Post by: Saint Cornelius on March 02, 2007, 05:13:33 PM: ...like?
Title: Re: Getting a new MP3 player.
Post by: The Fake Shemp on March 02, 2007, 05:16:08 PM: iPods are great. I still use my G4 for long trips, but I've been using my PSP as an all around media player for everyday use.
Title: Re: Getting a new MP3 player.
Post by: Mupepe on March 02, 2007, 05:19:16 PM: Quote from: Saint Cornelius on March 02, 2007, 05:13:33 PM
...like?

read the first post
Title: Re: Getting a new MP3 player.
Post by: Saint Cornelius on March 02, 2007, 05:21:32 PM: A Cowon doesn't cost as much as an iPod. In fact, I'm pretty sure that iPods are the most expensive DAPs around - another reason why certain people don't like them.
Title: Re: Getting a new MP3 player.
Post by: bluemax on March 02, 2007, 06:12:28 PM: Quote from: Itch on March 02, 2007, 03:47:36 PM
Quote from: Drinky Crow on March 02, 2007, 02:00:16 PM
when you're a TEEN, it's important to NOT CONFORM

ironically, every teen hatin' on the ipod has a myspace

Sure, if you aren't one of the popular kids.

Save the statements about "idividuality" for college.

Everyone in college has an ipod, except all them wacky foreign kids.

Student discount on apple products + bookstore sales FTW.
Title: Re: Getting a new MP3 player.
Post by: Vizzys on March 02, 2007, 06:14:51 PM: Quote from: Drinky Crow on March 02, 2007, 01:54:18 PM
you don't know ROCKS until you've owned an iPod

wah wah wah wah sound quality what the fuck your scabby nerd ears aren't missin' a thing
mine broke for no reason lol
Title: Re: Getting a new MP3 player.
Post by: omg_lemurs on March 02, 2007, 09:23:52 PM: Quote from: Drinky Crow on March 02, 2007, 01:06:44 AM
just give it up and get an iPod like the rest of the civilized world you silly thing

1. I don't want a player that fucking imprints onto one computer so I can't use it on any other PC.
2. I'm not paying apple $30 for an accessory (wall plug adapter) that should come packed in with the player.
3. I'm not using a fucking player that I need proprietary software in order to use. Shitty proprietary software that automatically syncs shit that hey... maybe I don't want to have synced?
4. I don't want to download shitty 3rd party software as a replacement for the shitty iTunes software.
5. Did I miss anything? Oh yeah... limited codec support, shitty battery life, overpriced accessories.
6. I don't want a fucking player that won't let me drag and drop music from my player back onto my PC or any other PC.
7. Fuck iPod.

The only thing that ever tempted me was the 80 GB. But since it's such a hassle and you can't use it as a plug and go mass storage device... and it imprints onto one computer fuck it. There's no point.
Title: Re: Getting a new MP3 player.
Post by: omg_lemurs on March 02, 2007, 09:26:42 PM: Quote from: Viz on March 02, 2007, 01:08:52 AM
ipods are terrible

lemurs the cowon d2 isnt out yet (or I cant find it)

They are. Check out Cowons' website or look on www.jetmall.com

I might want to get the CLIX2 8GB when it comes out in the states. I don't know how long that's going to be though. I'm waiting for Cowon to release their follow up to the X5 already but it doesn't look like that's going to happen anytime soon.

Shit I'm still waiting for a followup to the iRiver H300. :/ All these companies seem to be focused on releasing smaller flash based devices rather than DAPs with massive HDD storage.
Title: Re: Getting a new MP3 player.
Post by: Vizzys on March 02, 2007, 09:27:09 PM: drm am bad, very true
Title: Re: Getting a new MP3 player.
Post by: omg_lemurs on March 02, 2007, 09:31:24 PM: I wouldn't hate the iPod if it wasn't a piece of shit. I like Apple's overpriced computer hardware but to see all the faults in the iPod and pretend they don't exist is a load of horse shit. The UI isn't all that important to me, I couldn't give a shit about a click wheel, and iTunes is a piece of shit. These two selling points I'm indifferent to along with all the stuff I listed does not make for a good purchase in my eyes. I don't care about conformity or non-conformity, I care not to spend $250-350 on a smelly turd of a player when there's so much else out there.

I love how Apple sheep sit with such smugness and self satisfaction. It's as though they relish every moment and every thrust of Apples hard cock as it ravages their wallets and assholes. Apple makes some decent hardware. When it comes to audio and video editing their shit is second to none. To not see a little humor or shittyness in the fact that there's a new MAC OS every 6 fucking month is absurd, and to not mind the restrictiveness of the iPod is just low standards.
Title: Re: Getting a new MP3 player.
Post by: Saint Cornelius on March 02, 2007, 09:34:56 PM: Great, you managed to call it a piece of shit repeatedly without any more of an argument other than... it's a piece of shit.

In the meantime, you're replacing the cheap Korean DAP you speak so highly of, while I'm rocking my 5G iPod with no difficulties - other than the fact that it's scratched as fuck.
Title: Re: Getting a new MP3 player.
Post by: bagofeyes on March 02, 2007, 09:36:34 PM: :lol angry teens. Ipods are awesome.
Title: Re: Getting a new MP3 player.
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on March 02, 2007, 09:36:52 PM: I buy all my audio on physical CDs and rip to 320VBR MP3.

My iPod plays this audio without any DRM restrictions.

Yay!
Title: Re: Getting a new MP3 player.
Post by: omg_lemurs on March 02, 2007, 09:41:20 PM: Quote from: Saint Cornelius on March 02, 2007, 09:34:56 PM
Great, you managed to call it a piece of shit repeatedly without any more of an argument other than... it's a piece of shit.

In the meantime, you're replacing the cheap Korean DAP you speak so highly of, while I'm rocking my 5G iPod with no difficulties - other than the fact that it's scratched as fuck.

Maybe you missed the post where I gave... I think 7 reasons why I didn't want an iPod and ordered them numerically. I made the thread saying I didn't want an iPod and people come in and say iPod. I don't need those shenanigans. People here think they're being funny and ironic but really it's just obnoxious. Seriously, shut the fuck up.

Go back and read my post again you ADD illiterate douchebag. I had your number the minute I read any of your posts. When you were in school did you switch classes or did you have all your subjects in the same classroom? How big was your bus? Did you call your teacher by his or her first name?

Get the fuck out of my thread Saint Cornelius. You're giving me a headache trying to understand your distinguished mentally-challenged thought process. Go fuck yourself. I hate you.
Title: Re: Getting a new MP3 player.
Post by: omg_lemurs on March 02, 2007, 09:44:50 PM: Quote from: Synthesizer Patel on March 02, 2007, 09:36:52 PM
I buy all my audio on physical CDs and rip to 320VBR MP3.

My iPod plays this audio without any DRM restrictions.

Yay!

Can you hook your iPod up to more than one computer?

Can you use the iPod without iTunes or some other third party software?

Can you rip music off of the iPod onto your computer?

How many hours are you getting out of your battery?

Do you get FLAC or OGG support?
Title: Re: Getting a new MP3 player.
Post by: Vizzys on March 02, 2007, 09:55:31 PM: Lemurs is winning. lol @ teeny comments. Itunes blows, drm blows.
Title: Re: Getting a new MP3 player.
Post by: Van Cruncheon on March 02, 2007, 10:01:45 PM: Quote from: omg_lemurs on March 02, 2007, 09:44:50 PM

Can you hook your iPod up to more than one computer?

Can you use the iPod without iTunes or some other third party software?

Can you rip music off of the iPod onto your computer?

How many hours are you getting out of your battery?

Do you get FLAC or OGG support?

Yes; sorta but why would you, especially if you own a Mac; no idea but why would I want to; 40 hours on my nano, 30 on my video, do you spend more than 40 hours awake and listening to music; who the fuck cares, you can't tell the difference between audio formats in any practical way you dumb beezy
Title: Re: Getting a new MP3 player.
Post by: bagofeyes on March 02, 2007, 10:02:48 PM: Why would you put FLAC on a portable music player?
Title: Re: Getting a new MP3 player.
Post by: omg_lemurs on March 02, 2007, 10:23:06 PM: Quote from: Drinky Crow on March 02, 2007, 10:01:45 PM
Quote from: omg_lemurs on March 02, 2007, 09:44:50 PM

Can you hook your iPod up to more than one computer?

Can you use the iPod without iTunes or some other third party software?

Can you rip music off of the iPod onto your computer?

How many hours are you getting out of your battery?

Do you get FLAC or OGG support?

Yes; sorta but why would you, especially if you own a Mac; no idea but why would I want to; 40 hours on my nano, 30 on my video, do you spend more than 40 hours awake and listening to music; who the fuck cares, you can't tell the difference between audio formats in any practical way you dumb beezy

Bullshit. 30 hours? 20 hours is the maximum the company itself advertises and trust me, they aren't going to advertise the low end. Those tests are performed under the most insane perfect conditions ever. You'd have to try very hard to get what the Apple claims is the battery life, and there's nothing you could do to get a 10 hour improvement. If you could Apple would say 30 hours instead of twenty.

Why would you want to? Because iTunes is a bloated piece of resource hogging shit? Who cares? Maybe so you can move your library of music from one computer to another? I just know that I did this kind of stuff a lot with my X5. Putting assignments and whatnot onto my X5 and hooking it up to a computer at school to work on and vice versa. You can tell plenty of difference between the audio formats you stupid git, if you use headphones that aren't the crappy ones packed in with the player. Which cost $30 on the aftermarket BTW if I recall correctly.

Clearly our tastes differ simply because you have lower standards. You don't care about features that I care about and don't mind the extremely limited nature of the iPod. That's fine you get what you like, just get the fuck off my thread with that shit. I said I don't want an iPod and you're not going to convince me otherwise.
Title: Re: Getting a new MP3 player.
Post by: bagofeyes on March 02, 2007, 10:24:47 PM: So much rage
Title: Re: Getting a new MP3 player.
Post by: Van Cruncheon on March 02, 2007, 10:39:38 PM: i spend about 4 hours a day at work listening to my nano. it goes well over a week -- and sometimes up to two -- before i hafta charge it. plus JESUS FUCK you're an invalid just plug the fucker into yer USB port and charge it while you listen. sorry my real world estimate conflicted with your gaf-esque list of anti-ipod talking points. fortunately, i'm never 8 hours away from a computer or a space of time where i can charge it.

second, buy a decent PC or a Mac. don't be a useless poor. sorry that the 4-5% resources used by iTunes on yer 700 mHz P3 eats into the software rendering needed by Counterstrike; maybe yer dad shoulda dummied up another kid on the welfare application and bought an eMachines box with an actual GPU.

third, you can DL yer iTunes music library on up to 5 machines OH TEH NO ONLY 5. i have my library on my work machine, my Mac, my main PC, and my laptop. syncing up is a menu item away. you suck at iTunes.

fourth, i have $200 sony xbr studio monitors. you listen to the fucking beatles, which even a high khz sample rate can't make into quality. ogg is for open source foolios, like the gaf mods. are you like the gaf mods? no, you're less than the gaf mods, because you aren't even good at codec geekery.

buy an iPod and upgrade to civilization.
Title: Re: Getting a new MP3 player.
Post by: Vizzys on March 02, 2007, 10:43:33 PM: lolz pentium 3

those were horrible days
Title: Re: Getting a new MP3 player.
Post by: omg_lemurs on March 02, 2007, 11:20:48 PM: Quote from: Drinky Crow on March 02, 2007, 10:39:38 PM
i spend about 4 hours a day at work listening to my nano. it goes well over a week -- and sometimes up to two -- before i hafta charge it. plus JESUS FUCK you're an invalid just plug the fucker into yer USB port and charge it while you listen. sorry my real world estimate conflicted with your gaf-esque list of anti-ipod talking points. fortunately, i'm never 8 hours away from a computer or a space of time where i can charge it.

second, buy a decent PC or a Mac. don't be a useless poor. sorry that the 4-5% resources used by iTunes on yer 700 mHz P3 eats into the software rendering needed by Counterstrike; maybe yer dad shoulda dummied up another kid on the welfare application and bought an eMachines box with an actual GPU.

third, you can DL yer iTunes music library on up to 5 machines OH TEH NO ONLY 5. i have my library on my work machine, my Mac, my main PC, and my laptop. syncing up is a menu item away. you suck at iTunes.

fourth, i have $200 sony xbr studio monitors. you listen to the fucking beatles, which even a high khz sample rate can't make into quality. ogg is for open source foolios, like the gaf mods. are you like the gaf mods? no, you're less than the gaf mods, because you aren't even good at codec geekery.

buy an iPod and upgrade to civilization.

You don't know what I listen to. Yes. I listen to the Beatles, but that's not all I listen to fucknut. So stop right there.

And I use $300 Shure E4 IEMs. Your point?

My computer is fine. Just because my computer CAN handle the program doesn't mean that I want it to. Could you be suckling from the Apple cock any harder Drinky? iTunes is a resource hog, you might be fine with that but I'm not. I wouldn't download off of iTunes anyway. I'm not going to pay money for lossy DRM infected MP3s.

USB charging takes much longer and is much more inconvenient for my purposes.
Title: Re: Getting a new MP3 player.
Post by: Saint Cornelius on March 02, 2007, 11:23:38 PM: :lol

Lemurs, I don't even know why I bother wasting my time on your fishie floop oog ass; go ahead and buy the awesome mp3 player that isn't an iPod, what the fuck do I care?
Title: Re: Getting a new MP3 player.
Post by: omg_lemurs on March 02, 2007, 11:30:42 PM: Yes yes, good. Now move along. Play in the street or something.
Title: Re: Getting a new MP3 player.
Post by: Van Cruncheon on March 02, 2007, 11:32:54 PM: if she bought an MP3 (or OGG, or FLAC, or whatever format is cool with the terminally -- pun intended -- uncool these days) player that just worked, she'd have nothing to do except lay there and listen to her catheters drip with the only marginally less appealing sound of john lennon and his monkey sidekicks droning fuckwit melodies as accompaniment

buy the MP3 equivalent of the GP32 and she gets to BITCH ONLINE AS EXTRA BONUS PLUS COMBO for us all!
Title: Re: Getting a new MP3 player.
Post by: Saint Cornelius on March 02, 2007, 11:33:19 PM: So how come your money isn't being spent on, like, pills and tubes to replace and herbal remedies? How can you afford these dope DAPs and headphones and whatever else you claim to have? Is this some nippon parents shit that my cracker ass that works for a living can't ever hope to understand?

And before you cry about the way this horrible ginger monster fat fucking taco is talking to you, understand this: I don't like you because you talk AT people. You don't give a shit what anyone has to say, you just want fucking attention. Go make a deadjournal, you snively little tween
Title: Re: Getting a new MP3 player.
Post by: Van Cruncheon on March 02, 2007, 11:33:51 PM: Quote from: The Voice of Truth in These Times(tm)
I don't like you because you talk AT people. You don't give a shit what anyone has to say, you just want fucking attention. Go make a deadjournal, you snively little tween

:bow :bow corny tells it all :bow :bow
Title: Re: Getting a new MP3 player.
Post by: omg_lemurs on March 02, 2007, 11:51:01 PM: That's a pretty dark place for you to go Drinky, for something so trivial. I'm hurt.

Saint Cornelius... if you don't care why do you keep posting in this thread? Seriously. Nobody likes you. I don't want to come off as a bitch but really, you should consider suicide. I remember how they ran you off of Opa-Ages for being the titanic taco you are.

I talk AT people?

What a fucking distinguished mentally-challenged fellow. I wish you were here right now so I could put my hand on your face and push you backward. Symbolically representing every girl and social circle that has ever rejected you.
Title: Re: Getting a new MP3 player.
Post by: Madrun Badrun on March 02, 2007, 11:54:48 PM: Whats going on in here?
Title: Re: Getting a new MP3 player.
Post by: Vizzys on March 02, 2007, 11:56:58 PM: THIS THREAD JUST GOT AWESOME
Title: Re: Getting a new MP3 player.
Post by: Van Cruncheon on March 02, 2007, 11:57:44 PM: darker than suggesting suicide? yer the female olimario, minus the moderate talent in photography!
Title: Re: Getting a new MP3 player.
Post by: Saint Cornelius on March 03, 2007, 12:07:56 AM: Quote from: omg_lemurs on March 02, 2007, 11:51:01 PM
Symbolically representing every girl and social circle that has ever rejected you.

Wondergook powers, activate! In the form of a fish!!

???
Title: Re: Getting a new MP3 player.
Post by: omg_lemurs on March 03, 2007, 12:08:24 AM: Quote from: Drinky Crow on March 02, 2007, 11:57:44 PM
darker than suggesting suicide? yer the female olimario, minus the moderate talent in photography!

I never suggested you commit suicide. I will now, but I didn't before. I'm shocked. I didn't expect this from you of all people Drinky. This really deviates from your pattern of banal unfunny uninteresting posts.

I'd say you went to the dark place first, and I demand an explanation. Not that I really care... I just want to challenge myself to see if I can stay awake through the entire post. I've already hit some kind of record and I want to keep it going.
Title: Re: Getting a new MP3 player.
Post by: Saint Cornelius on March 03, 2007, 12:11:25 AM: uh, you suggested suicide to me, which is the point he's trying to make. i think? i don't know, i'm talking at him too!
Title: Re: Getting a new MP3 player.
Post by: Van Cruncheon on March 03, 2007, 12:12:18 AM: what what

anyway, buy a fuckin' ipod you pretentious flip
Title: Re: Getting a new MP3 player.
Post by: bagofeyes on March 03, 2007, 12:15:28 AM: Shit you're an annoying twat lemurs. Go study for your fucking algebra test or something.
Title: Re: Getting a new MP3 player.
Post by: omg_lemurs on March 03, 2007, 12:22:37 AM: Quote from: Saint Cornelius on March 03, 2007, 12:07:56 AM
Quote from: omg_lemurs on March 02, 2007, 11:51:01 PM
Symbolically representing every girl and social circle that has ever rejected you.

Wondergook powers, activate! In the form of a fish!!

???

Has anyone ever told you that you're really funny? Because I have big lips right? What else? My eyes are far apart?

Sorry I'm just trying to get the joke you just made. It went over my head at first but I think I get it now. You're comparing me to a fish because of my physical appearance. Is that correct? I usually pride myself in my ability to get a joke but this really confused me at first. I guess that's usually the trend with new and groundbreaking comedy. Have you ever heard of Lenny Bruce? You should check him out. His unique form of observational humor that I find similar to yours. If you want to check him out I'd suggest starting with The Law, Language, and Lenny Bruce and The Lenny Bruce Originals Vol. 2.

Another similarity between him and you is that people really didn't "get" him in his time. He got banned from performing at a lot of night clubs and blacklisted in a few cities. He was arrested a few times for obscenity and some think this led to his eventual death from a heroin overdose. He wasn't able to practice his craft because the general public hadn't caught up yet. Turns out he was one of the most influential humorists/comedians whose ever lived. They made a movie about his life called Lenny starring Dustin Hoffman. I'd check that out too if I were you. There's a valuable lesson to be learned from his life. Even though people might not get you at first... stick it out and time will tell. If that joke is any indication you're a really funny guy. Don't let anyone else tell you otherwise.

Good luck man.
Title: Re: Getting a new MP3 player.
Post by: Saint Cornelius on March 03, 2007, 12:24:26 AM: yawn

pretentious? really? i'm like twice yer age, ya cunt

yes, i'm making fun of you based on your appearance. go ahead and check some of the things you've said about me before you put on the shocked kabuki - or should i say, bukkake - mask on.

and you suck at the gee-tar. cunt.
Title: Re: Getting a new MP3 player.
Post by: Van Cruncheon on March 03, 2007, 12:28:01 AM: in before comparisons to ignatius c. reilly, and various references to The Only Book Lemurs Has Read Above Her Grade Level. (god i hope she never picks up atlus shrugged.)
Title: Re: Getting a new MP3 player.
Post by: omg_lemurs on March 03, 2007, 12:29:52 AM: I have a few book suggestions for you so that you can start honing and harnessing your natural talent.

Creating Your Monolog:
http://www.amazon.com/Creating-Your-Monologue-Glenn-Alterman/dp/1581150385

And for your eventual movie and sitcom deal:

The Writer's Guide to Writing Your Screenplay: How to Write Great Screenplays for Movies and Television
http://www.amazon.com/Writers-Guide-Writing-Your-Screenplay/dp/0871161915/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/002-5686703-8474436?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1172898214&sr=1-1
Title: Re: Getting a new MP3 player.
Post by: Madrun Badrun on March 03, 2007, 12:30:21 AM: Lemurs if I join your side of the fight - because it's rather looking like you need some allies here - will you PM hot pics?
Title: Re: Getting a new MP3 player.
Post by: bagofeyes on March 03, 2007, 12:31:35 AM: Start getting angry Father_Mike! Its fun! GGGGGARRRRRRRGGGGGHHHHH HORMONESSSSSSSS
Title: Re: Getting a new MP3 player.
Post by: omg_lemurs on March 03, 2007, 12:33:02 AM: Just because two fegs are ganging up on me doesn't mean I need help. What are they saying besides calling me a fish and a cunt? How is that supposed to be hurtful or even creative or funny?

Shit.

Join in if you like.

For a little backstory. My hostility toward Saint Cornhole goes back to other forums where he was taken to stalk trolling me before he was ran off the boards for being a tremendous taco.
Title: Re: Getting a new MP3 player.
Post by: Madrun Badrun on March 03, 2007, 12:33:26 AM: Quote from: bagofeyes on March 03, 2007, 12:31:35 AM
Start getting angry Father_Mike! Its fun! GGGGGARRRRRRRGGGGGHHHHH HORMONESSSSSSSS

I've been angry all day. I want to punch some asshat in the face. :punch :punch :punch :punch
Title: Re: Getting a new MP3 player.
Post by: Van Cruncheon on March 03, 2007, 12:34:15 AM: Quote from: blub blub
Creating Your Monolog:
http://www.amazon.com/Creating-Your-Monologue-Glenn-Alterman/dp/1581150385

how can you misspell "monologue" when the correct spelling is right in the url you pasted

i mean, i'm not one for spelling flames cuz wot da fuck, but now i know why you're struggling with this "buy an ipod?" question that several million people seem to answer effortlessly

we really need a down's syndrome smiley for lemurs' posts it seems, ecrofirt get on it
Title: Re: Getting a new MP3 player.
Post by: Madrun Badrun on March 03, 2007, 12:34:53 AM: Quote from: omg_lemurs on March 03, 2007, 12:33:02 AM
Join in if you like.

and the hot pics? I consider my self a mercenary and that i don't take sides. So if I were to help with out fee - in the form of hot pics - I would be breaking my own moral code.
Title: Re: Getting a new MP3 player.
Post by: omg_lemurs on March 03, 2007, 12:35:15 AM: Quote from: Drinky Crow on March 03, 2007, 12:34:15 AM
Quote from: blub blub
Creating Your Monolog:
http://www.amazon.com/Creating-Your-Monologue-Glenn-Alterman/dp/1581150385

how can you misspell "monologue" when the correct spelling is right in the url you pasted

i mean, i'm not one for spelling flames cuz wot da fuck, but now i know why you're struggling with this "buy an ipod?" question that several million people seem to answer effortlessly

we really need a down's syndrome smiley for lemurs' posts it seems, ecrofirt get on it

How do you never use a question mark, period, or capitalize the first letter of any of your sentences? Critiquing someones spelling (especially when you have questionable spelling and grammar yourself) is usually a last ditch effort to strike back when you don't have an argument.
Title: Re: Getting a new MP3 player.
Post by: Van Cruncheon on March 03, 2007, 12:36:35 AM: you are also bad at meta
Title: Re: Getting a new MP3 player.
Post by: Vizzys on March 03, 2007, 12:39:03 AM: oh dear, lemurs fell into a trap
Title: Re: Getting a new MP3 player.
Post by: Van Cruncheon on March 03, 2007, 12:40:26 AM: lemurs is dumb that way; teens are bad at irony
Title: Re: Getting a new MP3 player.
Post by: omg_lemurs on March 03, 2007, 12:41:07 AM: You never answered my question.
Title: Re: Getting a new MP3 player.
Post by: Van Cruncheon on March 03, 2007, 12:41:45 AM: do i need to, or can you just do a search on my name here and get the joke yourself
Title: Re: Getting a new MP3 player.
Post by: omg_lemurs on March 03, 2007, 12:43:01 AM: I'm not going to do a search to get some asinine in-joke. You've taken so much time already you might as well explain it to me.
Title: Re: Getting a new MP3 player.
Post by: omg_lemurs on March 03, 2007, 12:43:48 AM: Are you boycotting the period, the question mark, and the shift key?
Title: Re: Getting a new MP3 player.
Post by: omg_lemurs on March 03, 2007, 12:45:13 AM: And while we're asking questions. Why am I arguing with myself?
Title: Re: Getting a new MP3 player.
Post by: Van Cruncheon on March 03, 2007, 12:45:29 AM: nope. let's get back to discussing why a) you're too stupid to get an ipod; and b) why you really overextend your sorely limited faculties in flamewars when you'd be much better off just trying to get along ala the other 99% of the forum that isn't me and corny
Title: Re: Getting a new MP3 player.
Post by: Madrun Badrun on March 03, 2007, 12:45:46 AM: Quote from: omg_lemurs on March 03, 2007, 12:43:48 AM
Are you boycotting the period, the question mark, and the shift key?

we can see your not boycotting the period lemurs.

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Title: Re: Getting a new MP3 player.
Post by: Van Cruncheon on March 03, 2007, 12:47:04 AM: okay, i lol'd :lol
Title: Re: Getting a new MP3 player.
Post by: omg_lemurs on March 03, 2007, 12:49:22 AM: Quote from: Drinky Crow on March 03, 2007, 12:45:29 AM
nope. let's get back to discussing why a) you're too stupid to get an ipod; and b) why you really overextend your sorely limited faculties in flamewars when you'd be much better off just trying to get along ala the other 99% of the forum that isn't me and corny

You're starting the flame wars but when I call you on your bullshit you want to move on. I don't want an iPod. Don't like it? Don't bother continuing to suggest it or at least try to sell me on the idea rather than insult me for my preference. I really hope folks can see you're the one being the douche bag here. You're the one dragging this shit out.
Title: Re: Getting a new MP3 player.
Post by: bagofeyes on March 03, 2007, 12:50:30 AM: Nah, we like Drinky
Title: Re: Getting a new MP3 player.
Post by: Van Cruncheon on March 03, 2007, 12:52:03 AM: indeed i am the one dragging it out -- i'm also the one enjoying myself

ask the doctor to put a little FUN in the ol' feeding tube and maybe we can roll on; i don't like the needy tbs-esque twist this one-sided firefight has taken

buy an ipod and rediscover joy
Title: Re: Getting a new MP3 player.
Post by: omg_lemurs on March 03, 2007, 12:55:31 AM: I'll concede enough to ask you this: Why should I buy an iPod?
Title: Re: Getting a new MP3 player.
Post by: Van Cruncheon on March 03, 2007, 01:15:10 AM: why shouldn't you? it's well-designed, well-supported, and well-manufactured. its only downside for some folks -- and i'll leave the moral assessment to the readers -- is that pirating mp3s, while not prevented, isn't actively encouraged by the platform. an mp3 player is an mp3 player, and its primary function is primarily served by reliability and convenience, which is exactly what the ipod continues to do best.
Title: Re: Getting a new MP3 player.
Post by: omg_lemurs on March 03, 2007, 01:19:18 AM: And if I find iTunes and the inability to drag and drop files onto and OFF of the player inconvenient? Maybe I'm looking for something that does more than just play MP3s?
Title: Re: Getting a new MP3 player.
Post by: Van Cruncheon on March 03, 2007, 01:21:48 AM: why would you drop them OFF the player?
Title: Re: Getting a new MP3 player.
Post by: Flannel Boy on March 03, 2007, 01:22:13 AM: Oh
My
God
LEMURS
Title: Re: Getting a new MP3 player.
Post by: omg_lemurs on March 03, 2007, 01:39:19 AM: Quote from: Drinky Crow on March 03, 2007, 01:21:48 AM
why would you drop them OFF the player?

Not just MP3s. Text files, video files, files I RECORD ON THE PLAYER ITSELF.

I drag stuff off of my player ALL THE TIME.
Title: Re: Getting a new MP3 player.
Post by: Van Cruncheon on March 03, 2007, 01:42:34 AM: whoa hey thumb drives
Title: Re: Getting a new MP3 player.
Post by: omg_lemurs on March 03, 2007, 01:44:06 AM: whoa hey I don't want a thumb drive. I want an MP3 player that doesn't force me into artificial restraints.
Title: Re: Getting a new MP3 player.
Post by: Van Cruncheon on March 03, 2007, 01:48:37 AM: last i checked, an "mp3 player" wasn't trying to be a thumb drive or a home recording studio -- and the ones that do are usually korean-made suck. buy an mp3 player for mp3 playback. buy a thumb drive for file transfer. buy a mac for home studio work.
Title: Re: Getting a new MP3 player.
Post by: omg_lemurs on March 03, 2007, 01:51:37 AM: What other players have you owned besides iPod?
Title: Re: Getting a new MP3 player.
Post by: Van Cruncheon on March 03, 2007, 01:55:05 AM: iRiver and a Zen. Both had cumbersome, buggy software and kludgy interfaces. Ironically, I have no experience with a Zune.
Title: Re: Getting a new MP3 player.
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on March 03, 2007, 02:00:54 AM: Quote from: omg_lemurs on March 03, 2007, 01:39:19 AM
Quote from: Drinky Crow on March 03, 2007, 01:21:48 AM
why would you drop them OFF the player?
Not just MP3s. Text files, video files, files I RECORD ON THE PLAYER ITSELF.

You can set up a portion of your iPod to use as a portable HDD that can store any kind of data JUST SAYIN NOT SPRAYIN
Title: Re: Getting a new MP3 player.
Post by: omg_lemurs on March 03, 2007, 02:06:14 AM: It doesn't do you much good if you can't easily drag and drop it back onto any desktop without software.
Title: Re: Getting a new MP3 player.
Post by: omg_lemurs on March 03, 2007, 02:06:58 AM: Quote from: Drinky Crow on March 03, 2007, 01:55:05 AM
iRiver and a Zen. Both had cumbersome, buggy software and kludgy interfaces. Ironically, I have no experience with a Zune.

I don't like Zen, but what model iRiver did you have?

I'll also go on record as saying that I prefer the file tree system.
Title: Re: Getting a new MP3 player.
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on March 03, 2007, 02:11:50 AM: Quote from: omg_lemurs on March 03, 2007, 02:06:14 AM
It doesn't do you much good if you can't easily drag and drop it back onto any desktop without software.

You can drag and drop data from the data HDD partition you set up just fine. You just can't drag and drop MP3s from the music partition. Which makes sense.
Title: Re: Getting a new MP3 player.
Post by: Van Cruncheon on March 03, 2007, 02:31:54 AM: yup, it appears on the PC like any other sort of external media device. drag-and-drop FILES to your heart's content.
Title: Re: Getting a new MP3 player.
Post by: bluemax on March 03, 2007, 03:15:02 AM: Quote from: omg_lemurs on March 03, 2007, 01:39:19 AM
Quote from: Drinky Crow on March 03, 2007, 01:21:48 AM
why would you drop them OFF the player?

Not just MP3s. Text files, video files, files I RECORD ON THE PLAYER ITSELF.

I drag stuff off of my player ALL THE TIME.

I use my iPod as a portable HDD. Best way for transferring a dvd or cd image around if needs be.
Title: Re: Getting a new MP3 player.
Post by: Saint Cornelius on March 03, 2007, 01:45:44 PM: If your shit is tagged properly, like mine is - you can totally search through your music folder on the iPod and get songs off of there. If you're not a hysterical twat, I mean
Title: Re: Getting a new MP3 player.
Post by: Cheebs on March 03, 2007, 02:01:30 PM: All I want out of a mp3 player is something I can put songs onto and then listen to them on. iPods do that so I use one.

Nothing else matters, nor should anything else fucking matter to anyone else for that matter.
Title: Re: Getting a new MP3 player.
Post by: Cheebs on March 03, 2007, 06:48:30 PM: Quote from: Spencer on March 03, 2007, 02:20:51 PM
What a shit storm of what could have been a simple discussion :lol
she wasn't looking for a discussion. Just an excuse to bash things that are mainstream to seem cool.
Title: Re: Getting a new MP3 player.
Post by: Vizzys on March 03, 2007, 06:49:56 PM: lol morons
Title: Re: Getting a new MP3 player.
Post by: omg_lemurs on March 03, 2007, 06:52:51 PM: Quote from: Cheebs on March 03, 2007, 06:48:30 PM
Quote from: Spencer on March 03, 2007, 02:20:51 PM
What a shit storm of what could have been a simple discussion :lol
she wasn't looking for a discussion. Just an excuse to bash things that are mainstream to seem cool.

Hey, you stupid fuck. I'm the one who started the thread saying I didn't want an iPod. I posted the two MP3 players that I was looking into and twats come into my thread and tell me to get an iPod. I said I didn't want one. I was looking for a "get the D2 or X5 or (other player besides iPod)".

Who's looking for an argument when they purposefully come into my topic and troll my shit. I said I didn't want a fucking iPod so why keep suggesting it to me? Fucking asshole.
Title: Re: Getting a new MP3 player.
Post by: Cheebs on March 03, 2007, 07:08:43 PM: You are one of only 10 people who don't use a iPod for their mp3 player in this entire world, what did you expect?
Title: Re: Getting a new MP3 player.
Post by: Vizzys on March 03, 2007, 07:12:38 PM: I expect my mp3 player to use drag and drop not have to install itunes on any computer I grab music from. Ipods are overpriced and some of the flash based ones dont even come with a fucking screen. I can get a better player with more features for less and not have drm bullshit. Ipods therfore are overrated.

lolz teenager making a statement, idiots.
Title: Re: Getting a new MP3 player.
Post by: BobbyRobby on March 03, 2007, 07:34:29 PM: Lemurs and Viz seem to have some pretty valid complaints. Things that have bothered me as an iPod owner. Why do you care if they do research to get a product that suits their needs?

You guys are being pretty obnoxious, "Buy an iPod," "Why do you care?," "Don't be poor."
Title: Re: Getting a new MP3 player.
Post by: omg_lemurs on March 03, 2007, 07:38:49 PM: Quote from: Cheebs on March 03, 2007, 07:08:43 PM
You are one of only 10 people who don't use a iPod for their mp3 player in this entire world, what did you expect?

People not to troll my shit...
Title: Re: Getting a new MP3 player.
Post by: omg_lemurs on March 03, 2007, 07:39:51 PM: Quote from: BobbyRobby on March 03, 2007, 07:34:29 PM
Lemurs and Viz seem to have some pretty valid complaints. Things that have bothered me as an iPod owner. Why do you care if they do research to get a product that suits their needs?

You guys are being pretty obnoxious, "Buy an iPod," "Why do you care?," "Don't be poor."

Not to mention the fact that the iAudio X5 when it first came out was nearly $400 because of how technologically superior it was/is. Being poor? Bullshit. People who like the players I like are the kinds of people who liked minidisk recorders.

iPod doesn't come with a built in radio when it could be easily done, but the attachment costs something like $30-50.

35 hour long battery.
Built in FM tuner.
Build in video.
Microphone Recording
Line In Recording
Alarm (Set a time, player turns on automatically and records selection of line in or radio. People use this to do things like record radio shows like Howard Stern on Sirius. It's very useful.)
USB On the Go
5 Band EQ and various enhancement settings. Considered to be at or near the top of the food chain when it comes to sound quality.
Picture Viewer and Text Viewer (Useless to me)
MP3, OGG, WMA, WAV files, and FLAC
USB Storage
M3U (I like this. If you organize your shit you should be fine.)
Bookmarking (Rather than fast forward through a 5 hour long recorded radio show to get to the point where you left off you book mark it and listen later from whatever point)
Windows, Mac, and Linux. I don't know if iPod is Linux compatible

The player was released several months before the iPod Video. I'd say the player was well ahead of it's time and no other HDD DAP (besides various PMPs) have matched it in terms of features.
Title: Re: Getting a new MP3 player.
Post by: Itch on March 03, 2007, 07:52:34 PM: LOL. Sure are lots of bitter pussies up in here.
Title: Re: Getting a new MP3 player.
Post by: Vizzys on March 03, 2007, 07:53:37 PM: lol