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Title: Solo, you going to any late night stores at midnight to pick up CASINO ROYALE?
Post by: The Fake Shemp on March 12, 2007, 07:10:23 PM
Well, are you?

You should start warming up your DVD player right about now!
Title: Re: Solo, you going to any late night stores at midnight to pick up CASINO ROYALE?
Post by: Junpei the Tracer! on March 12, 2007, 07:13:28 PM
Circuit City is selling this for 20 or 15$
Title: Re: Solo, you going to any late night stores at midnight to pick up CASINO ROYAL
Post by: Vizzys on March 12, 2007, 07:21:45 PM
I watched it last night on my creative zen vision.
Title: Re: Solo, you going to any late night stores at midnight to pick up CASINO ROYAL
Post by: TakingBackSunday on March 12, 2007, 07:22:58 PM
Just by the way, I got those Bond Collection DVDs (all volumes) for Christmas and have just recently started watching from the beginning.  It's pretty ridiculous how incredibly mediocre and laughable You Only Live Twice is compared to the next one, On Her Majesty's Secret Service.  I love Connery, but holy shit Lazenby rocks.
Title: Re: Solo, you going to any late night stores at midnight to pick up CASINO ROYAL
Post by: The Fake Shemp on March 12, 2007, 07:24:32 PM
I think the real travesty is Octopussy.  I contend that is easily one of the worst films of all-time.  It deserves to be MST3K'd.
Title: Re: Solo, you going to any late night stores at midnight to pick up CASINO ROYAL
Post by: TakingBackSunday on March 12, 2007, 07:38:15 PM
I'm getting to that one soon–the thing I REALLY am NOT looking forward to is watching the Moore Bonds.  Seriously, was there any...any GOOD Bond flicks during Moore's time?
Title: Re: Solo, you going to any late night stores at midnight to pick up CASINO ROYAL
Post by: Cheebs on March 12, 2007, 07:41:35 PM
I'm getting to that one soon–the thing I REALLY am NOT looking forward to is watching the Moore Bonds.  Seriously, was there any...any GOOD Bond flicks during Moore's time?
For Your Eyes Only is considered a great bond movie by bond-whores like me and solo.


The Spy Who Loved Me also tends to get a lot of praise.
Title: Re: Solo, you going to any late night stores at midnight to pick up CASINO ROYAL
Post by: TakingBackSunday on March 12, 2007, 07:43:51 PM
Okay, good.  It's been forever since I watched a Moore Bond, but I've seen the Connery ones and OHMSS tons of times.  Connery=sex.
Title: Re: Solo, you going to any late night stores at midnight to pick up CASINO ROYAL
Post by: Robo on March 12, 2007, 07:59:09 PM
Octopussy worse than Moonraker?  No way.
Title: Re: Solo, you going to any late night stores at midnight to pick up CASINO ROYAL
Post by: The Miles Trahan Burger Experiment on March 12, 2007, 08:08:19 PM
$13.99 at Circuit City, I'll probably bite for that price.
Title: Re: Solo, you going to any late night stores at midnight to pick up CASINO ROYALE?
Post by: BlueTsunami on March 12, 2007, 09:01:34 PM
Its gotta look hot in HD :drool to bad I don't have a PS3. Loved it in theaters, will probably grab it sometime this week.
Title: Re: Solo, you going to any late night stores at midnight to pick up CASINO ROYAL
Post by: Mr. Gundam on March 12, 2007, 09:07:54 PM
My copy on Blu Ray shipped today, it should be here tomorrow or Wednesday.
Title: Re: Solo, you going to any late night stores at midnight to pick up CASINO ROYAL
Post by: The Fake Shemp on March 12, 2007, 09:12:53 PM
Octopussy worse than Moonraker?  No way.

He dresses up as a clown to stop a bomb at a circus!  A CLOWN!  The soundtrack is awful, the story is beyond awful and it looks like a low budget film.  He arrives in a hot air balloon for Christ's sake.
Title: Re: Solo, you going to any late night stores at midnight to pick up CASINO ROYAL
Post by: Phoenix Dark on March 12, 2007, 09:43:26 PM
Might get it, might not. Most likely I won't get it this month
Title: Re: Solo, you going to any late night stores at midnight to pick up CASINO ROYALE?
Post by: G The Resurrected on March 12, 2007, 10:00:38 PM
Getting it tonight at Blockbuster cause of the 3 free fullsize theatrical posters and poker set.
Title: Re: Solo, you going to any late night stores at midnight to pick up CASINO ROYALE?
Post by: Solo on March 13, 2007, 06:34:41 AM
Lolz, no. I'm not that hardcore. I'll be going today after my one class (Tuesdays rock), at 10 in the morning, AKA 2.5 hours from now I'll have it.
Title: Re: Solo, you going to any late night stores at midnight to pick up CASINO ROYALE?
Post by: Solo on March 13, 2007, 10:27:49 AM
I've now got it Willco. Are ye satisfied? Still think the choice of cover art was awful. They should have used the teaser poster art. Oh well, too late now.

Also, Shake, why would you buy this? All we've heard from you is how mediocre CR was. I don't know about you, but I usually don't buy movies I don't like.
Title: Re: Solo, you going to any late night stores at midnight to pick up CASINO ROYAL
Post by: Bloodwake on March 13, 2007, 10:32:41 AM
Amazon.com says it's thirty miles away from my house.

:D
Title: Re: Solo, you going to any late night stores at midnight to pick up CASINO ROYAL
Post by: Cheebs on March 13, 2007, 10:45:32 AM
I've now got it Willco. Are ye satisfied? Still think the choice of cover art was awful. They should have used the teaser poster art. Oh well, too late now.
I really wish the boxart matched the ultimate editions
Title: Re: Solo, you going to any late night stores at midnight to pick up CASINO ROYAL
Post by: makaveli on March 13, 2007, 11:16:20 AM
cranks better
Title: Re: Solo, you going to any late night stores at midnight to pick up CASINO ROYAL
Post by: Solo on March 13, 2007, 11:26:48 AM
I've now got it Willco. Are ye satisfied? Still think the choice of cover art was awful. They should have used the teaser poster art. Oh well, too late now.
I really wish the boxart matched the ultimate editions

That too. But then, the UE cover art is EVEN WORSE. They look like someone with about 2 days of Photoshop experience created them.
Title: Re: Solo, you going to any late night stores at midnight to pick up CASINO ROYAL
Post by: Cheebs on March 13, 2007, 12:11:44 PM
I've now got it Willco. Are ye satisfied? Still think the choice of cover art was awful. They should have used the teaser poster art. Oh well, too late now.
I really wish the boxart matched the ultimate editions

That too. But then, the UE cover art is EVEN WORSE. They look like someone with about 2 days of Photoshop experience created them.
I know but consistency and all that.
Title: Re: Solo, you going to any late night stores at midnight to pick up CASINO ROYALE?
Post by: Solo on March 13, 2007, 12:12:32 PM
Thats one thing the SE's have easily over the UE's: better box and DVD menu design.
Title: Re: Solo, you going to any late night stores at midnight to pick up CASINO ROYAL
Post by: Cheebs on March 13, 2007, 12:31:36 PM
Thats one thing the SE's have easily over the UE's: better box and DVD menu design.
Yeah, but I am so glad I upgraded. All of them outside of Goldeneye which is rather messed up looking look FANTASTIC compared to the SE's. I tried to go back the SE of OHMSS the other day just to compare personally and it was painful. The first 10 or so movies cleaned up damn nicely.
Title: Re: Solo, you going to any late night stores at midnight to pick up CASINO ROYAL
Post by: Mr. Gundam on March 13, 2007, 01:23:28 PM
My Blu Ray copy arrived at my house this morning according to UPS. Just five more hours of work...
Title: Re: Solo, you going to any late night stores at midnight to pick up CASINO ROYAL
Post by: The Miles Trahan Burger Experiment on March 13, 2007, 01:58:04 PM
I'd pick it up because, despite my thoughts on the actual film, I'm a DVD whore. :-[
Title: Re: Solo, you going to any late night stores at midnight to pick up CASINO ROYAL
Post by: Phoenix Dark on March 13, 2007, 02:30:09 PM
Ayo Jacob bring it over to my house so we can watch it. Also bring Kingdom of Heaven SE cause I don't want to buy it :-*
Title: Re: Solo, you going to any late night stores at midnight to pick up CASINO ROYAL
Post by: Mr. Gundam on March 13, 2007, 08:33:33 PM
Got my Blu Ray copy of Casino Royale in the mail today... looks absolutely incredible.
Title: Re: Solo, you going to any late night stores at midnight to pick up CASINO ROYAL
Post by: beelzebozo on March 13, 2007, 09:33:38 PM
got mine in the mail from amazon today.
watching it now.

so awesome.
Title: Re: Solo, you going to any late night stores at midnight to pick up CASINO ROYALE?
Post by: G The Resurrected on March 14, 2007, 04:42:38 AM
If this is what they call a two disc set i'm feel sorry. And its false advertising to say that there are more than 90 minutes of extras when in face its two 25 minute documentaries and a music video. The rest of the bullshit on the disc has nothing to add that is relevant to JamesBond.

Oh well at least the movie rocks.
Title: Re: Solo, you going to any late night stores at midnight to pick up CASINO ROYALE?
Post by: Solo on March 14, 2007, 07:49:01 AM
Rocks just as hard on DVD  :heartbeat
Title: Re: Solo, you going to any late night stores at midnight to pick up CASINO ROYAL
Post by: The Fake Shemp on March 14, 2007, 01:16:28 PM
Casino Royale should've gotten an Oscars for best film... ever.
Title: Re: Solo, you going to any late night stores at midnight to pick up CASINO ROYALE?
Post by: Solo on March 14, 2007, 02:27:49 PM
I'll drink to that! Vespers for everyone!
Title: Re: Solo, you going to any late night stores at midnight to pick up CASINO ROYAL
Post by: The Fake Shemp on March 14, 2007, 02:36:46 PM
When is the sequel coming? God, it feels weird asking that since there's actual continuity in Bond films now!
Title: Re: Solo, you going to any late night stores at midnight to pick up CASINO ROYALE?
Post by: Solo on March 14, 2007, 02:37:30 PM
November 2008. 2 years all told. Not too bad.
Title: Re: Solo, you going to any late night stores at midnight to pick up CASINO ROYAL
Post by: The Fake Shemp on March 14, 2007, 02:40:35 PM
I can't wait that long.  They're not using CG anymore, so what's the hold up?
Title: Re: Solo, you going to any late night stores at midnight to pick up CASINO ROYALE?
Post by: Solo on March 14, 2007, 02:46:11 PM
2 years has been pretty standard for the franchise, aside from the first 4 films, which were obviously cheaper and faster to shoot, which were released a year apart. Also, they actually had a vast amount of Fleming material at their fingertips back then. Theres still a fair bit they havent used, but they've pretty much mined most of it.
Title: Re: Solo, you going to any late night stores at midnight to pick up CASINO ROYALE?
Post by: Yeti on March 14, 2007, 04:38:49 PM
What is the sequel going to be based on?
Title: Re: Solo, you going to any late night stores at midnight to pick up CASINO ROYALE?
Post by: G The Resurrected on March 14, 2007, 04:41:22 PM
What is the sequel going to be based on?
well if anything they'll get things figured out with Mr White and possibly go back to Spectra Organization.
Title: Re: Solo, you going to any late night stores at midnight to pick up CASINO ROYAL
Post by: Cheebs on March 14, 2007, 04:44:29 PM
No spectre or smersh ever again. They made that very clear. Vesper WILL be in it even though she is dead and play a imporant part:

spoiler (click to show/hide)
The actress said she recorded a scene for the movie, a recording for bond revealing some important information that he needs.
[close]
Title: Re: Solo, you going to any late night stores at midnight to pick up CASINO ROYAL
Post by: The Fake Shemp on March 14, 2007, 04:44:52 PM
Solo says no S.P.E.C.T.R.E. due to licensing, but how I want it.
Title: Re: Solo, you going to any late night stores at midnight to pick up CASINO ROYAL
Post by: Cheebs on March 14, 2007, 04:46:03 PM
I believe Craig is contracted through 2012 so we will only get 4 with him it seems ala Brosnan  :-\
Title: Re: Solo, you going to any late night stores at midnight to pick up CASINO ROYAL
Post by: G The Resurrected on March 14, 2007, 04:48:44 PM
Solo says no S.P.E.C.T.R.E. due to licensing, but how I want it.

There is still posibilities, remember how they got Casino Royale out of the lawsuit or something? I wouldnt doubt that things have been cleared up by now. I just dont want to wait another 2 years for a great bond film. I just hope they keep it gritty and realistic.

And yes Eva Green did film several scenes for the next movie. As well as Mr White before his untimely demise.

I'll take 4 gritty James bonds with Craig over 4 shitty bond films with a great bond (Pierce).
Title: Re: Solo, you going to any late night stores at midnight to pick up CASINO ROYAL
Post by: Cheebs on March 14, 2007, 04:55:58 PM
It's not just that, they also seem to not WANT to use it. They say no Q again in the next film however moneypenny is a possibility.
Title: Re: Solo, you going to any late night stores at midnight to pick up CASINO ROYALE?
Post by: Yeti on March 14, 2007, 11:33:50 PM
I hate to say it but I kind of miss the Q gadgets.  :-\  I kind of wish they would return, but not be quite so outlandish.

I don't get the Moneypenny hate though, I always thought she had an interesting dynamic with Bond.
Title: Re: Solo, you going to any late night stores at midnight to pick up CASINO ROYAL
Post by: The Fake Shemp on March 14, 2007, 11:39:30 PM
She was a slut.
Title: Re: Solo, you going to any late night stores at midnight to pick up CASINO ROYALE?
Post by: Junpei the Tracer! on March 14, 2007, 11:52:48 PM
I shouldn't have check this thread I just spoiled myself.
Title: Re: Solo, you going to any late night stores at midnight to pick up CASINO ROYAL
Post by: Yeti on March 15, 2007, 12:59:08 AM
She was a slut.

No she wasn't. She just had a crush on Bond.


I can sympathize.  :-[
Title: Re: Solo, you going to any late night stores at midnight to pick up CASINO ROYAL
Post by: Bloodwake on March 15, 2007, 01:26:07 AM
This is the first time since Goldeneye released that I've been looking forward to the next Bond in the series.

Hopefully they can keep their shit together.
Title: Re: Solo, you going to any late night stores at midnight to pick up CASINO ROYAL
Post by: HyperZoneWasAwesome on March 15, 2007, 03:25:27 AM
It felt kinda weird to not be at all disappointed in a Bond film.  I didn't have to use any qualifiers when telling people I liked it.
"at least that one scene was kinda cool."
"man, that chick was smoking, eh."

None of that.  So yeah, its here I join the love train for Casino Royale.
Title: Re: Solo, you going to any late night stores at midnight to pick up CASINO ROYALE?
Post by: Solo on March 15, 2007, 06:35:44 AM
Guys, Mr. White didn't meet his demise, or at least not that we know of. Bond shot him in the leg, and presumably was gonna press him for information.

Also, you'll never see Blofeld or SMERSH or SPECTRE again. Well, I guess I shouldnt say never, since McClory DID just die this past year, so perhaps those rights are more up for grabs now.
Title: Re: Solo, you going to any late night stores at midnight to pick up CASINO ROYALE?
Post by: Ichirou on March 16, 2007, 03:49:47 AM
If we don't see SPECTRE or SMERSH or Blofeld, I hope we see an organization in that vein...Bond needs a truly massive, overwhelming agency to fight against - that way we can have several movies where he's fighting that organization's agents while slowly working his way up to the top.
Title: Re: Solo, you going to any late night stores at midnight to pick up CASINO ROYALE?
Post by: Solo on March 16, 2007, 07:34:56 AM
That is definately the plan, it seems. It looks like Craig's 3 films will be a trilogy of sorts, presumably working his way up the food chain.
Title: Re: Solo, you going to any late night stores at midnight to pick up CASINO ROYAL
Post by: Cheebs on March 16, 2007, 08:04:35 AM
I hope they get Paul Haggis back. Apparently his re-write on CR more or less changed the entire script from scratch.
Title: Re: Solo, you going to any late night stores at midnight to pick up CASINO ROYALE?
Post by: Solo on March 16, 2007, 09:41:17 AM
That is what is real scary about CR and the future of the Bond series. I mean, the team behind the dreadful DAD was the same team behind the awesome CR, writers and all (exluding Haggis). Thats why I am fearful about Bond 22. Sure, its the team that made CR, but its also the same team that made TWINE and DAD. Lets hope they learn from CR's success to keep making movies like that.
Title: Re: Solo, you going to any late night stores at midnight to pick up CASINO ROYAL
Post by: Cheebs on March 16, 2007, 09:47:19 AM
I remember reading that Craig turned down the role after reading the script from the DAD guys and only accepted the role after the Haggis re-write. They NEED Haggis back.

It also helps that Royale was the closest to a Fleming novel since the Connery films so it had that as well to keep it going. The problem also is, excluding Connery, no great Bond film has ever been followed up by another great bond film.

OHMMS -> Diamonds Are Forever
The Spy Who Loved Me -> Moonraker
For Your Eyes Only -> Octopussy
The Living Daylights -> Licence To Kill(not bad like the last two but nowhere near TLD)
Goldeneye -> Tomorrow  Never Dies
Title: Re: Solo, you going to any late night stores at midnight to pick up CASINO ROYALE?
Post by: Solo on March 16, 2007, 09:49:06 AM
And I'll bet dimes to donuts they wont get him. This was definately a one-shot deal for Haggis. Probably a boyhood fantasy to write a Bond flick. I can't fathom him returning. Neither will Campbell. So at the very least we're gonna have the crappy old writers and a new director.
Title: Re: Solo, you going to any late night stores at midnight to pick up CASINO ROYAL
Post by: Cheebs on March 16, 2007, 09:50:45 AM
And I'll bet dimes to donuts they wont get him. This was definately a one-shot deal for Haggis. Probably a boyhood fantasy to write a Bond flick. I can't fathom him returning. Neither will Campbell. So at the very least we're gonna have the crappy old writers and a new director.
And no Fleming novel to keep the plot from growing out of control. The only thing that keeps me optimistic is that the two writers said no Q and no gadgets for Bond 22 again.
Title: Re: Solo, you going to any late night stores at midnight to pick up CASINO ROYALE?
Post by: Solo on March 16, 2007, 09:53:31 AM
Still, expect something the caliber of TWINE (I cant see them going as far out as DAD for some time) for Bond 22. Probably passable, but utterly disappointing as a CR follow up.
Title: Re: Solo, you going to any late night stores at midnight to pick up CASINO ROYAL
Post by: Cheebs on March 16, 2007, 10:18:48 AM
it also helps that this a a DIRECT sequel to CR continuing the story from that. It has Mathias, Vesper..etc still and has the same storyline. It will be hard for it to take a total 180 in style.

Also my gut feeling is that Craig is a type of bond actor that could make a generally weak Bond film still enjoyable due to his presence of the character. Unlike a Moore or Brosnan.
Title: Re: Solo, you going to any late night stores at midnight to pick up CASINO ROYALE?
Post by: Solo on March 16, 2007, 03:24:38 PM
Actually, a lot of people feel that way about Moore too. Not me obviously, since I consider him the very worst, but Im in the vast minority. Ive often heard that people love Moore because he could carry those awful movies with his charisma.
Title: Re: Solo, you going to any late night stores at midnight to pick up CASINO ROYAL
Post by: The Fake Shemp on March 16, 2007, 03:32:09 PM
No, not really.

Seriously, Octopussy is so bad it makes me want to pee on Ian Fleming's corpse.
Title: Re: Solo, you going to any late night stores at midnight to pick up CASINO ROYALE?
Post by: Solo on March 16, 2007, 03:39:58 PM
I said I wasn't one of those people!  :lol But seriously, Ive heard lots of people say that over the years. They are obviously idiots, but still!
Title: Re: Solo, you going to any late night stores at midnight to pick up CASINO ROYAL
Post by: The Fake Shemp on March 16, 2007, 03:42:21 PM
Roger Moore raped Bond.
Title: Re: Solo, you going to any late night stores at midnight to pick up CASINO ROYALE?
Post by: Solo on March 16, 2007, 03:45:04 PM
Roger Moore was basically Austin Powers. I vote that we rescind the Bond line to 5 actors, and bump the AP line to 2 actors, with Mike Myers picking up the torch from Moore.
Title: Re: Solo, you going to any late night stores at midnight to pick up CASINO ROYAL
Post by: TakingBackSunday on March 16, 2007, 05:30:34 PM
I haven't read the novels, but in terms of the film comparing to the novel, how close was CR?  And was the next novel (I think it was Live and Let Die) a continuation of CR or was it a brand spanking new story?  I wouldn't mind them going in order of the books, but that won't EVER happen.
Title: Re: Solo, you going to any late night stores at midnight to pick up CASINO ROYALE?
Post by: G The Resurrected on March 16, 2007, 05:37:10 PM
wait they lost the writers from CR for the next bond? Is the director going to be back? Cause he gets bond just look at CR and GE. Damnit wtf sony shell out the money you poor fucks. You give millions to make horrible sam rami spiderman crap. Give some big money to 007 for a change.
Title: Re: Solo, you going to any late night stores at midnight to pick up CASINO ROYAL
Post by: Cheebs on March 16, 2007, 05:41:27 PM
The writer and director will not be back.
Title: Re: Solo, you going to any late night stores at midnight to pick up CASINO ROYAL
Post by: Tauntaun on March 16, 2007, 05:45:00 PM
is it me or does craig look like a monkey?

(http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/mgm/casino_royale/daniel_craig/royale10.jpg) <~~~monkey

I mean, I loved the movie, but COME ON! say I'm right.
Title: Re: Solo, you going to any late night stores at midnight to pick up CASINO ROYAL
Post by: Cheebs on March 16, 2007, 06:09:12 PM
is it me or does craig look like a monkey?

(http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/mgm/casino_royale/daniel_craig/royale10.jpg) <~~~monkey

I mean, I loved the movie, but COME ON! say I'm right.
Bond is basically a hitman for the government. He looks like a rough brute, which is what someone in his job WOULD look like.

And not this:
(http://www.superchefblog.com/images/rogermoore_dining360x360.png)
Title: Re: Solo, you going to any late night stores at midnight to pick up CASINO ROYAL
Post by: G The Resurrected on March 17, 2007, 02:25:49 AM
The writer and director will not be back.

GOD DAMNIT havent they learned with 21 films and other franchises doing well with one director and single writing group? FUCK FUCK FUCK god damnit. They need to get back the writer and director cause thats the only thing that will save bond 22
Title: Re: Solo, you going to any late night stores at midnight to pick up CASINO ROYAL
Post by: Solo on March 17, 2007, 08:47:39 AM
I haven't read the novels, but in terms of the film comparing to the novel, how close was CR?  And was the next novel (I think it was Live and Let Die) a continuation of CR or was it a brand spanking new story?  I wouldn't mind them going in order of the books, but that won't EVER happen.

It is a pretty darn straight adaptation. Things have been changed (like Le Chiffre's motives), obviously, since the Cold War is long gone, but the structure of the book and film are remarkably similar, and there is some dialogue lifted straight from the book ("the bitch is dead"). It's easily the most faithful adaptation of any of the Bond novels, although thats not saying much, since Dr. No, From Russia With Love, Goldfinger, and Thunderball aside, the Bond films aren't even remotely faithful adaptations.

Live And Let Die is the next book, and would make a GREAT movie (the LALD movie they already made is totally different from the book, which is a travesty since the book was so awesome), and features lots of Felix Leiter. But they wont be remaking that. They are determined to write their own crap stories, when theres still a lot of good Fleming material they havent touched.
Title: Re: Solo, you going to any late night stores at midnight to pick up CASINO ROYALE?
Post by: Solo on March 17, 2007, 08:51:23 AM
wait they lost the writers from CR for the next bond? Is the director going to be back? Cause he gets bond just look at CR and GE. Damnit wtf sony shell out the money you poor fucks. You give millions to make horrible sam rami spiderman crap. Give some big money to 007 for a change.

They didn't lose the writers. On the contrary, they GAINED a writer for CR, who just so happened to be Paul Haggis. Who I can guarantee wont be back. So we're stuck with the shitty writing duo of the previous 3 Bond films. As for the director, Martin Campbell isn't much of one, really. He can do a decent Bond flick, but outside of that, hes done nothing very good. Anyways, he has stated that he doesnt like doing huge movies like this back to back, so its not a matter of money, but a matter of Campbell not having interest.

Also, the Bond franchise has TONS of money behind it. You dont get to make 22 films without having a fat payroll.
Title: Re: Solo, you going to any late night stores at midnight to pick up CASINO ROYAL
Post by: Solo on March 17, 2007, 08:57:15 AM
The writer and director will not be back.

GOD DAMNIT havent they learned with 21 films and other franchises doing well with one director and single writing group? FUCK FUCK FUCK god damnit. They need to get back the writer and director cause thats the only thing that will save bond 22

Take it easy. First of all, the Bond films have NEVER had a single director (there are directors who did several, like Terence Young and John Glen, but theres hardly a director who has done all 21) or writing crew (pretty much different on every film, though writers like Richarm Maibaum wrote several, and currently Purvis and Wade have written a few, but they wont last forever). The head honchoes, Michael G. Wilson and Barbara Broccoli, seem to like change, and pretty much shake up the creative team, cast, and crew for each film to keep things fresh. As for Martin Campbell, like I said, hes a journeyman director at best, and Purvis and Wade aren't great writers.

As for what will "save" Bond 22, its quite simple. They just need to realize from the overwhelming success of CR that people want more Bond films like this, and continue down that road.
Title: Re: Solo, you going to any late night stores at midnight to pick up CASINO ROYAL
Post by: Cheebs on March 17, 2007, 09:19:10 AM
22 isn't going to be some total switch in style. I am not TOO worried. It still won't have gadgets and is a direct sequel to CR. I am remaining optimistic.
Title: Re: Solo, you going to any late night stores at midnight to pick up CASINO ROYALE?
Post by: Solo on March 17, 2007, 09:21:05 AM
I'd love to see them get Matthew Vaughn do to a Bond movie. He's British, so he fits the bill, he has a relationship with Craig, and I loved Layer Cake.
Title: Re: Solo, you going to any late night stores at midnight to pick up CASINO ROYAL
Post by: Cheebs on March 17, 2007, 09:24:46 AM
I'd love to see them get Matthew Vaughn do to a Bond movie. He's British, so he fits the bill, he has a relationship with Craig, and I loved Layer Cake.
That would be nice. I wonder if they will ever break their must-be-english rule for directors since they turned down both Spielberg and Tarintino cause of this rule.
Title: Re: Solo, you going to any late night stores at midnight to pick up CASINO ROYALE?
Post by: Solo on March 17, 2007, 09:40:37 AM
I don't think its a "must be British" so much as "must be non-American or be European"  :lol I mean, Lee Tamahori. That name sounds awfully Asian to me. And Martin Campbell is an Australian I believe.
Title: Re: Solo, you going to any late night stores at midnight to pick up CASINO ROYAL
Post by: Cheebs on March 17, 2007, 09:51:11 AM
well then the "can't be american" rule lol
Title: Re: Solo, you going to any late night stores at midnight to pick up CASINO ROYALE?
Post by: Solo on March 17, 2007, 10:55:45 AM
Personally Im glad Tarantino will never be allowed within a mile of the Bond franchise. Spielberg, on the other hand, I think could deliver an awesome Bond movie, but we know that will never happen.
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Post by: Cheebs on March 17, 2007, 11:18:30 AM
In part I am glad about Spielberg as well. Lucas was working on his Raiders of the Lost Ark storyline when he was on vacation with Spielberg when Spielberg was talking about how he wished Cubby Broccoli would let him do a Bond. Lucas let Spielberg direct the Indiana Jones films to fufill his desires to do a Bond like episodic action-adventure series. Which is also why Connery is in the franchise, Spielberg uses Indiana Jones to fulfill his Bond desires. Spielberg is blunt about that on the Indy dvd's. He said Connery is in it because James Bond HAD to be Indiana Jones's dad in his mind.

If Broccoli let Spielberg direct (I believe it was Octopussy that Spielberg was trying to get on?) then Lucas would have directed Raiders and my gut instinct is that it not would have been not as good as a franchise.

Plus why waste Spielberg during the Roger Moore years?
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Post by: Solo on March 17, 2007, 11:23:36 AM
Id like to see the current day Spielberg direct Craig in one. I mean, they've already worked together, and I could see Spielberg working well with a movie akin to CR. But this is just wishing, since we know it'll never happen. They already had a director lined up for Bond 22 (whose name escapes me), but he's since left the project.
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Post by: Cheebs on March 17, 2007, 11:26:37 AM
You know what would be interesting? Christopher Nolan. Mainly because of his history with Bond. Nolan calls OHMSS his favorite film of all time and credits watching the 60's Bond films as a kid the main reason he got into film. I would find it very interesting to see a director who calls OHMSS his favorite movie period do a Bond film. Especially a Craig era movie.
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Post by: Solo on March 17, 2007, 11:39:02 AM
Yeah, that would be cool too. I dont know if Nolan would ever do one, though.
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Post by: Himu on March 17, 2007, 11:50:30 AM
I got this movie.
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Post by: TakingBackSunday on March 17, 2007, 12:15:08 PM
I just found out that for Live and Let Die they originally wanted Burt Reynolds.  :lol
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Post by: Solo on March 17, 2007, 12:19:37 PM
There have been a lot of several awful almost-Bonds. James freaking Brolin had the part at one point before Moore returned.
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Post by: Cheebs on March 17, 2007, 12:42:38 PM
My one disappointment is Dalton for Goldeneye. Goldeneye was written FOR Dalton. Which is obvious when you see the change in tone after goldeneye with the last 3 brosnan ones. Dalton backed out thinking he was too old and the wait was too long(though he looked better than Moore did in his later films and better than Brosnan did in DAD).

How I wish he did it. :(
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Post by: Solo on March 17, 2007, 12:43:26 PM
Dalton and Bean would be too much awesomeness for one film.
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Post by: Cheebs on March 17, 2007, 12:45:28 PM
Still someone needs to slap Dalton for turning it down. Also it would likely mean no Brosnan ever since by the time they would be looking for a new Bond with TND he would probably be too old to be a fresh bond.

Dalton was offered LALT wasn't he, before Moore?
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Post by: Solo on March 17, 2007, 12:50:37 PM
Dalton was offered the role as early as OHMSS!
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Post by: Himu on March 17, 2007, 12:51:18 PM
Watching this now. The menu music is awesome.
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Post by: Himu on March 17, 2007, 03:30:23 PM
Holy CHRIST. One of the best action films EVER.
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Post by: The Fake Shemp on March 17, 2007, 03:30:50 PM
Yeah, Casino Royale is pretty awesome.
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Post by: The Fake Shemp on March 17, 2007, 03:33:02 PM
Also, when will Martin Campbell get his due as the best Bond director of all-time (GoldenEye, Casino Royale).  He's arguably the most important person working on the franchise since its inception, as he has managed to keep the series afloat when it starts sinking.
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Post by: Cheebs on March 17, 2007, 03:58:39 PM
Also, when will Martin Campbell get his due as the best Bond director of all-time (GoldenEye, Casino Royale).
Terence Young, son.
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Post by: The Fake Shemp on March 17, 2007, 04:28:37 PM
Martin Campbell has eclipsed him.  Sorry, it's true.  It's one thing to help cultivate the Bond persona during its inception, but it's another to basically resurrect it not once, but twice!
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Post by: TakingBackSunday on March 17, 2007, 05:05:46 PM
I'd say Guy Hamilton was pretty good, too–but he did do two pretty meh ones.  Goldfinger was good though!
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Post by: Cheebs on March 17, 2007, 05:24:42 PM
I'd say Guy Hamilton was pretty good, too–but he did do two pretty meh ones.  Goldfinger was good though!
Goldfinger was great but he is the one who invented silly over-the-top bond.
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Post by: Cheebs on March 17, 2007, 05:33:58 PM
After re-watching Royale and having the newness gone from it what what is your top 5 Bond movies now?

Mine are:
1. On Her Majesty's Secret Service
2. Casino Royale
3. From Russia With Love
4. The Living Daylights
5. Goldfinger
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Post by: Mupepe on March 17, 2007, 05:43:59 PM
After re-watching Royale and having the newness gone from it what what is your top 5 Bond movies now?

Mine are:
1. On Her Majesty's Secret Service
2. Casino Royale
3. From Russia With Love
4. The Living Daylights
5. Goldfinger
check yer damn pm's!
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Post by: Ichirou on March 17, 2007, 09:35:03 PM
I don't think its a "must be British" so much as "must be non-American or be European"  :lol I mean, Lee Tamahori. That name sounds awfully Asian to me. And Martin Campbell is an Australian I believe.

Tamahori's Maori.  Also, I think he got arrested a while back for cross-dressing prostitution or somesuch.  :lol
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Post by: Himu on March 18, 2007, 01:25:52 AM
When is the sequel coming? God, it feels weird asking that since there's actual continuity in Bond films now!

There's actual continuity? Where did they say that?
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Post by: The Fake Shemp on March 18, 2007, 05:19:12 AM
Like, everywhere.  The sequel picks up right after Casino Royale, with Bond hopefully uncovering another S.P.E.C.T.R.E.-like organization.
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Post by: Cheebs on March 18, 2007, 08:33:33 AM
Like, everywhere.  The sequel picks up right after Casino Royale, with Bond hopefully uncovering another S.P.E.C.T.R.E.-like organization.
We know he uncovers a organization and their leader(not Mr. White), so don't worry about that. It is just not SPECTRE. More of a Spectre-lite.

It was already said Mattias plays a important part in this one as well.
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Post by: Solo on March 18, 2007, 09:21:27 AM
Sorry, Willco, Terence Young is the only correct answer. Not only did he mold Connery (who by all accounts was pretty much a hard-nosed thug prior) into Bond (Young himself was and is still considered by many to be James Bond, if he were to have existed, suave, cultured, charming, etc), but he set the standard for what Bond movies should be, and most importantly, he directed 3 of the very best films in the series.
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Post by: The Fake Shemp on March 18, 2007, 12:31:32 PM
I still contend that Martin Campbell has now saved the series not once, but twice, and deserves more credit.
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Post by: Solo on March 18, 2007, 12:39:37 PM
Ill give him credit for CR, because the series was off the rails post DAD. But GE? After a 6 year hiatus, Uwe Boll could have directed GE and it would have been a hit.

So I wont give him GE, but I will give him CR.
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Post by: Cheebs on March 18, 2007, 12:42:10 PM
The franchise wasn't dead at the time of GE. There was a 6 year break due to legal issues. They wanted to do Goldeneye with Dalton back in 91 or 92. Hell it would have been BETTER. On the UE DVD they said the kept the Dalton script but made some changes to make it a bit lighter to suit Brosnan over Dalton. GoldenEye could have been one of the 5 best, but damn legal issues caused problems and thus we got the Brosnan verision.

Goldeneye was MADE for Dalton it is so obvious that is depressing. :(
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Post by: The Fake Shemp on March 18, 2007, 12:43:04 PM
No way. GoldenEye was a rebirth for a franchise that had sunken to the box office doldrums following Dalton's reign.  There was no betting on it to be a huge success.
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Post by: Solo on March 18, 2007, 12:47:35 PM
I would contend that there was. First, there was the 6 year break which I mentioned, so people were salivating for a new one. Second, and more importantly, Brosnan was now Bond, and lets face it, he had been the popular choice of the vast majority for years (myself exlcuded, since I wanted Dalton and not Brosnan). People wanted Brosnan to be Bond. They didnt want Dalton. So then you finally get a new Bond flick starring the 1986 almost-Bond Pierce Brosnan, and you get success.
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Post by: Cheebs on March 18, 2007, 12:48:47 PM
I honestly don't care if it bombed. Goldeneye was meant to be Dalton's and it would have been soooo good. :(
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Post by: The Fake Shemp on March 18, 2007, 12:56:15 PM
I think it would've fared well better because Brosnan was the preferred choice of soccer moms, but GoldenEye was a huge success for more reasons than that.  You forget the key movie demographic, teenagers and those in their early 20s, had probably never even seen a Bond film in theatres.  That franchise was as hokey and defunct as no other at that point.  The movie was a rebirth; it introduced Bond to a whole new generation and instilled some Hollywood credibility with a series that was in decline, commercially, up until that point.  I think with Brosnan in the driver seat, you could've had bet that it would've done better than Dalton's films, but nobody saw how big of a success it would be.
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Post by: Solo on March 18, 2007, 01:00:08 PM
I think it would've fared well better because Brosnan was the preferred choice of soccer moms, but GoldenEye was a huge success for more reasons than that.  You forget the key movie demographic, teenagers and those in their early 20s, had probably never even seen a Bond film in theatres.  That franchise was as hokey and defunct as no other at that point.   The movie was a rebirth; it introduced Bond to a whole new generation and instilled some Hollywood credibility with a series that was in decline, commercially, up until that point.  I think with Brosnan in the driver seat, you could've had bet that it would've done better than Dalton's films, but nobody saw how big of a success it would be.

Yes, but are you forgetting that GE (unlike CR, which is a drastic shake up) is pretty much THE safest Bond movie ever made? Its pretty much a "greatest hits" Bond movie. They wanted to get the fans back, so they basically pulled out the old cookie cutter again and churned GE out. GE is just as hokey, silly, cheesey, etc as all the previous entries to the "defunct" series were.
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Post by: The Fake Shemp on March 18, 2007, 01:11:00 PM
I don't think it's nearly as cheesy as the Moore films.  It's not very cheesy at all!  It has some Cold War camp, but it's played off pretty well.  I really like it.
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Post by: Solo on March 18, 2007, 01:13:31 PM
I dunno. For the most part its okay, but pretty much anything from Onatopp's mouth, or any Bond-female dialogue leans towards cringe-worthy. Other than that, I like the script, namely the Bond-Trevelyn moments.
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Post by: Cheebs on March 18, 2007, 01:28:45 PM
The music in GE was reaaallly weird and techno 90's nonsense. Watching the UE of the DVD made realize just how badly that soundtrack aged.
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Post by: The Fake Shemp on March 18, 2007, 01:29:48 PM
The title track is awesome, but other than that, it's a time capsule.
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Post by: TakingBackSunday on March 18, 2007, 01:30:30 PM
I feel like I'm playing the videogame whenever I hear the music from GE.
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Post by: Solo on March 18, 2007, 01:31:44 PM
It stinks. Thats why Eric Serra was never given the job to score a Bond movie again. David Arnold isnt much better though. We need John Barry to return for one more film.
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Post by: Bloodwake on March 18, 2007, 01:35:44 PM
November 2008. 2 years all told. Not too bad.

:D

God, I'm so pumped. Thank god they made Bond awesome again.

David Arnold did pretty good. The music in Casino Royale, where it repeats the movie's main theme, reminded me of the older films where you heard the original theme 80 times throughout the film. John Barry, though, would be a godsend.

I'm not too critical of Goldeneye's music. There's parts like the tank chase that are pretty good.
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Post by: The Fake Shemp on March 18, 2007, 01:36:25 PM
I like David Arnold.  He's pretty good.
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Post by: Cheebs on March 18, 2007, 01:37:00 PM
I LOVED hearing the title thing repeated throughout the movie. That was something lacking from Bond movies for a long time, I loved that it returned.
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Post by: Solo on March 18, 2007, 01:37:58 PM
His CR score is good, but its still not enough to make me forget about his bad ones from TND and TWINE.
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Post by: The Fake Shemp on March 18, 2007, 01:38:24 PM
I think Arnold more or less did that because he couldn't blast out the full on Bond theme 'till that very special point, and opted to go that route instead. It wouldn't surprise me if he returned to his old ways with the next film.
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Post by: Solo on March 18, 2007, 01:40:08 PM
TWINE's score was especially bad. What the hell was that techno garbage during the Thames chase? CR actually had a strong theme, which I enjoyed hearing whenever it was reprised.
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Post by: Bloodwake on March 18, 2007, 01:42:15 PM
TWINE's score was especially bad. What the hell was that techno garbage during the Thames chase? CR actually had a strong theme, which I enjoyed hearing whenever it was reprised.

Believe me, I agree. The music in the three films before this were complete garbage. Arnold definitely redeemed himself with Casino Royale though.

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Post by: The Fake Shemp on March 18, 2007, 01:43:29 PM
Arnold, from what little I know of him, is a very soldier-like composer.  He doesn't really come up with new material as much as stuff is mandated to him from the producers and whomever helms the production.  I wouldn't be surprised if he was told, "Put some techno garbage in this scene!"

Also, I don't get how they royally fucked up The World is Not Enough. Y'know, with some good casting and better direction and tightening of the script, that movie could've been a great Bond film.  The concept is great, even for the villain, and in terms of world destruction plots, it's one of the more plausible ones.
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Post by: Bloodwake on March 18, 2007, 01:45:05 PM
Arnold, from what little I know of him, is a very soldier-like composer.  He doesn't really come up with new material as much as stuff is mandated to him from the producers and whomever helms the production.  I wouldn't be surprised if he was told, "Put some techno garbage in this scene!"

Also, I don't get how they royally fucked up The World is Not Enough. Y'know, with some good casting and better direction and tightening of the script, that movie could've been a great Bond film.  The concept is great, even for the villain, and in terms of world destruction plots, it's one of the more plausible ones.

Exactly. The movie was a pretty good concept. I enjoyed it, but it still wasn't holy shit awesome like it could have been.
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Post by: The Fake Shemp on March 18, 2007, 01:46:00 PM
I think the casting really undoes most of the film.
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Post by: Solo on March 18, 2007, 01:46:05 PM
TWINE's bigest problem for me is its far too long and bloated. Should have been 20 mins shorter.

CR is too long too, but its actually, you know, good, so its run time doesnt bother as much.
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Post by: Himu on March 18, 2007, 01:49:08 PM
Can someone explain this supposed continuity in the films now?
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Post by: Bloodwake on March 18, 2007, 01:53:00 PM
I think the casting really undoes most of the film.

The only good cast was Sophie Marceau.

In other words, I agree.
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Post by: Ichirou on March 19, 2007, 02:43:36 AM
Can someone explain this supposed continuity in the films now?

The films gave up any pretense of cohesive continuity long, long ago.  It's such a mess, it's better to not even bother with it.

Personally, I don't see why anyone would try to get into Bond...there are a few really cool Bond movies, but most of them are really terrible and have aged really badly.  All the Roger Moore ones are hokey, the Brosnan ones are uniformly terrible aside from Goldeneye...so what you're left with is the Connery ones that have aged well (From Russia With Love, Goldfinger, Thunderball...and that's it), the two Dalton ones, On Her Majesty's Secret Service, and Casino Royale.  That's...7 movies out of 21.
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Post by: The Fake Shemp on March 19, 2007, 02:45:32 AM
No, he's talking about the continuity that will exist between Casino Royale and its sequels, but I've already explained it to him!
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Post by: Solo on March 19, 2007, 08:24:14 AM
Can someone explain this supposed continuity in the films now?
Personally, I don't see why anyone would try to get into Bond...there are a few really cool Bond movies, but most of them are really terrible and have aged really badly. 

I didn't try, personally. I just happened to grow up watching the movies and reading the books, and now its just part of my personality. I will fully admit that at least half of the movies are stinkers, yet I still have nothing but love for the series. I guess its just one of those things. Everyone has theirs.
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Post by: Bloodwake on March 19, 2007, 08:35:39 AM
Can someone explain this supposed continuity in the films now?
Personally, I don't see why anyone would try to get into Bond...there are a few really cool Bond movies, but most of them are really terrible and have aged really badly. 

I didn't try, personally. I just happened to grow up watching the movies and reading the books, and now its just part of my personality. I will fully admit that at least half of the movies are stinkers, yet I still have nothing but love for the series. I guess its just one of those things. Everyone has theirs.

After GoldenEye 007 came out for N64 I watched all the movies. It was a large part of my childhood.

Even most of the shitty ones I like because of nostalgia reasons mainly. Octopussy, however, and Die Another Day have never been among those films I liked.
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Post by: Cheebs on March 19, 2007, 08:49:25 AM
I remember when I was about 7-8 I rented every movie one by one each week.  Which is why even now I "enjoy" watching Diamonds Are Forever, Moonraker, Live And Let Die...etc. Some I can't bear to watch though but those are just a few. A View To A Kill & Die Another Day are the only ones I can't sit down and enjoy to a certain extent.
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Post by: Ichirou on March 19, 2007, 08:57:04 AM
I know what you guys mean.  I grew up with both Dalton movies and he's still my favorite Bond, so I have a lot of affection for those particular entries in the franchise.

But I think, if you didn't grow up with it, you shouldn't bother trying to get into the series as an adult, because it's really not all that good, aside from a few entries.  Better to start off fresh with the brilliance of Casino Royale and look ahead instead of looking back.
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Post by: Solo on March 19, 2007, 08:59:41 AM
This is true too. I wouldnt go out and try to "recruit" fans for the series. I think that if you dont have some personal attachment to the films, then you would be much better served to just see the series highs, then move on to other films.

Most huge Bond fans I have met basically have the same background - they started watching the movies at a very young age, and they just clicked with them and they have been pretty much lifelong fans since. I dont hear much of people just randomly picking up the series later in life.
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Post by: Ichirou on March 19, 2007, 09:04:39 AM
I have my guilty pleasures too - I used to think Star Wars was just brilliant, and look what a clusterfuck that turned out to be.  :lol

I own about a dozen of the Bond movies on VHS, but Casino Royale is the first one I'm planning to buy on DVD...if the UE's are sold in stand-alone versions I might get the Dalton ones and maybe a couple of the Connery ones, as well as the Lazenby one, but that's it.

I mean, I like the original Trek movies and all, but the only ones I own on DVD are II, III, IV and VI - the others are awful, and I have no desire to be a completist...same with Bond.  I'll get the ones I really like, but no desire to complete the series.

EDIT: VI, not V!  The Undiscovered Country, not The Final (shitty) Frontier.
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Post by: Cheebs on March 19, 2007, 09:53:10 AM

I mean, I like the original Trek movies and all, but the only ones I own on DVD are II, III, IV and V - the others are awful, and I have no desire to be a completist...same with Bond.  I'll get the ones I really like, but no desire to complete the series.
What the fuck? Star Trek VI is considered the best one alongside II(and for many IV). The fact you own V and not the one that is arguably nearly as good as II is absurd.
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Post by: Ichirou on March 19, 2007, 09:55:04 AM

I mean, I like the original Trek movies and all, but the only ones I own on DVD are II, III, IV and V - the others are awful, and I have no desire to be a completist...same with Bond.  I'll get the ones I really like, but no desire to complete the series.
What the fuck? Star Trek VI is considered the best one alongside II(and for many IV). The fact you own V and not the one that is arguably nearly as good as II is absurd.

FUCK, that was a typo.  I own II, III, IV, and VI.  I DO NOT OWN STAR TREK V.  I think it's an AWFUL movie.
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Post by: Cheebs on March 19, 2007, 12:14:00 PM
My view is V is under-rated. It had fantastic kirk/spock/mccoy banter. My rankings and ratings of the 6 would be:

1. II (10/10)
2. VI (9.5/10)
3. IV (9/10)
4. III (8/10)
5. V (7.5/10)
6. I (6/10)
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Post by: The Fake Shemp on March 19, 2007, 01:12:49 PM
No, Star Trek V is not underrated.  It is horrible and a sin against God.
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Post by: Cheebs on March 19, 2007, 02:49:17 PM
I like watching kirk, spock, and mccoy run around the enterprise for 2 hours chatting with eachother. So sue me.
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Post by: The Fake Shemp on March 19, 2007, 02:50:47 PM
I won't sue you, but God will!
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Post by: Cheebs on March 19, 2007, 02:51:22 PM
Come on Kirk trying to out-logic God = film greatness
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Post by: The Fake Shemp on March 19, 2007, 02:51:53 PM
He used lightning powers on them?  What the fuck - is he Emperor Palpatine?
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Post by: Cheebs on March 19, 2007, 02:53:43 PM
He sent out rock monsters as well! But that scene got cut out lol
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Post by: Solo on March 19, 2007, 02:57:41 PM
I have never watched a full episode of any of the Star Trek shows, nor a single frame of any of the movies.

Oogami, the UEs ARE being sold as singles. Have been for a while now.
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Post by: The Fake Shemp on March 19, 2007, 03:46:48 PM
You should watch Wrath of Khan and a few others, Solo.  They're good films and don't rely on anyone being a Trekkie to enjoy them.
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Post by: Cheebs on March 19, 2007, 03:55:18 PM
The even numbered Treks(outside Nemesis) are all very good sci-fi action films regardless of its franchise. Well other than IV, thats just a fun comedy.

You should see Wrath of Khan and The Undiscovered Country. They are the two Nicholas Myer directed and they are VERY good movies.
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Post by: brawndolicious on March 19, 2007, 08:24:01 PM
I gave this movie a chance.

(http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/mgm/casino_royale/_group_photos/judi_dench1.jpg)

It's shit.
Title: Re: Solo, you going to any late night stores at midnight to pick up CASINO ROYALE?
Post by: Ichirou on March 19, 2007, 08:31:26 PM
I have never watched a full episode of any of the Star Trek shows, nor a single frame of any of the movies.

Oogami, the UEs ARE being sold as singles. Have been for a while now.

Oh, man, I gotta pick up a few of 'em, then: Goldfinger, From Russia With Love, Thunderball, On Her Majesty's Secret Service, Living Daylights, Licence to Kill, and Casino Royale.
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Post by: TakingBackSunday on March 19, 2007, 09:12:31 PM
I gave this movie a chance.

(http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/mgm/casino_royale/_group_photos/judi_dench1.jpg)

It's shit.

Yeah, I'm gonna go with no.
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Post by: brawndolicious on March 19, 2007, 09:17:15 PM
Yeah, I'm gonna go with no.
you do that taco.
Title: Re: Solo, you going to any late night stores at midnight to pick up CASINO ROYAL
Post by: TakingBackSunday on March 19, 2007, 10:10:08 PM
Yeah, I'm gonna go with no.
you do that taco.

It's wonderful to be gay at the moment!
Title: Re: Solo, you going to any late night stores at midnight to pick up CASINO ROYAL
Post by: brawndolicious on March 19, 2007, 10:17:02 PM
It's wonderful to be gay at the moment!
Seriously, I don't get the praise Casino Royale gets.

All bond movies are either above-average or they suck.  As a bond movie, it sucked.  Apparantly making the "bond look" a zoolander look is good.
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Post by: Ichirou on March 19, 2007, 10:19:22 PM
It's wonderful to be gay at the moment!
Seriously, I don't get the praise Casino Royale gets.

All bond movies are either above-average or they suck.  As a bond movie, it sucked.  Apparantly making the "bond look" a zoolander look is good.

Casino Royale was a really cool film, dude.  I mean, not just as a Bond movie - it's just a really cool movie.

What Bond movies do YOU think are above average?
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Post by: TakingBackSunday on March 19, 2007, 10:21:28 PM
People just don't realize (I'm now reading the original novel lol) that Casino Royale is the most faithful film to the whole series of novels.  That's why it's good.
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Post by: brawndolicious on March 19, 2007, 10:27:41 PM
I personally didn't like the novels and I liked:

Goldeneye and that's all I can remember.
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Post by: TakingBackSunday on March 19, 2007, 10:39:23 PM
I personally didn't like the novels and I liked:

Goldeneye and that's all I can remember.

Well then I'm forgetting you ever posted in this thread!
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Post by: brawndolicious on March 19, 2007, 10:51:04 PM
Well then I'm forgetting you ever posted in this thread!
Honestly, I don't remember the fucking titles!

It just didn't feel like a bond movie to me.  I thin reanimated on OA summed it up the best when he said it felt too much like bourne.
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Post by: TakingBackSunday on March 19, 2007, 10:56:19 PM
Honestly, I'm fine with that.  From reading half of Casino Royale, it does indeed seem to edge the line more towards a Bourne type of story than a campy Goldfinger-type Bond flick.  I want it to stay that way.  The first two Bond films and Casino Royale seem to be the best because they are sooo much less corny.
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Post by: brawndolicious on March 19, 2007, 10:59:04 PM
But you have to consider that it wasn't being like the first couple movie that made this series live for so long...

Casino Royale seems to be liked because it tries to resurrect Bond by at least trying not to have a crappy storyline and a lot of people liked that (I personally was not a fan of the plot twists) but how long can they keep doing that?
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Post by: TakingBackSunday on March 19, 2007, 11:04:52 PM
As long as they have writers thats want to capitalize on THAT certain success and don't want to Golfinger the next one up.  And get a director who does the same.  There are two vital parts of the Bond film origins: The Terrence Young Part and the Guy Hamilton Part.  To many Bond fans, Young was the true shaper of the character, and Hamilton was the man who got it to where it is today.  Unfortunately, Hamilton was the one who made the series known for its campyness, as awesome as Goldfinger was.  With Dr. No and From Russia with Love Young created the two most realistic Bond flicks that to many still hold up as the best.  I just want something currently that falls in line with the Young philosphy rather than the Hamilton way.

And I wish Hunt directed another Bond film.  :(
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Post by: brawndolicious on March 19, 2007, 11:09:22 PM
Maybe if I go into the next bond expecting it to be different I'll appreciate it more but Casino Royale's story never felt it really went anywhere.  The plot twists just seemed random.  I'd prefer either a so-bad-it's-good story or something very serious.
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Post by: G The Resurrected on March 19, 2007, 11:15:02 PM
I gave this movie a chance.

(http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/mgm/casino_royale/_group_photos/judi_dench1.jpg)

It's shit.

Where the fuck is that scene in the movie? I've seen it several times and not seen that.
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Post by: brawndolicious on March 19, 2007, 11:16:32 PM
He's talking to M after being fucked up.  I don't know.
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Post by: The Fake Shemp on March 19, 2007, 11:22:58 PM
I'm pretty sure it's when he goes back to the beach side villa, where the one guy's wife was murdered, shortly after the airport sequence.
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Post by: G The Resurrected on March 19, 2007, 11:23:48 PM
Oh thats right its just a unusual angle.
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Post by: Solo on March 20, 2007, 06:38:20 AM
I personally didn't like the novels and I liked:

Goldeneye and that's all I can remember.

Goldeneye isn't a Fleming novel. Casino Royale rocks. You do not.
Title: Re: Solo, you going to any late night stores at midnight to pick up CASINO ROYAL
Post by: brawndolicious on March 20, 2007, 12:59:13 PM
You suck my dick.
Title: Re: Solo, you going to any late night stores at midnight to pick up CASINO ROYAL
Post by: Cheebs on March 20, 2007, 01:01:27 PM
You suck my dick.
well he is right there is no goldeneye book in the bond series. It was a movie made from scratch.
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Post by: brawndolicious on March 20, 2007, 01:06:45 PM
I didn't like Casino Royale that much, mainly because it does a bond movie, which in general are mediocre, wrong.  And the story made no sense.  WTF was that with the building blowing up at the end?
Title: Re: Solo, you going to any late night stores at midnight to pick up CASINO ROYALE?
Post by: Vizzys on March 20, 2007, 01:52:30 PM
god youre distinguished mentally-challenged
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Post by: brawndolicious on March 20, 2007, 02:03:22 PM
(http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/mgm/casino_royale/_group_photos/judi_dench1.jpg)

Wouldn't I like that if I was distinguished mentally-challenged?
Title: Re: Solo, you going to any late night stores at midnight to pick up CASINO ROYALE?
Post by: Vizzys on March 20, 2007, 02:05:11 PM
let me explain , those tanks were holding the building up because it was floating on water, they go, the building goes.
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Post by: brawndolicious on March 20, 2007, 02:16:31 PM
I know that.  Why would he blow them up if he's IN THE BUILDING?
Title: Re: Solo, you going to any late night stores at midnight to pick up CASINO ROYALE?
Post by: Vizzys on March 20, 2007, 02:18:23 PM
im pretty sure the guy he shot with the machine gun fired on them as he was dying
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Post by: brawndolicious on March 20, 2007, 02:20:01 PM
I still don't get why the fuck you would make a rickety warehouse building float.
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Post by: TakingBackSunday on March 20, 2007, 06:05:33 PM
I still don't get why the fuck you would make a rickety warehouse building float.

I don't know, you better take that up with the architects of Rome.
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Post by: brawndolicious on March 20, 2007, 06:10:01 PM
I thought they were in venice?
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Post by: Yeti on March 21, 2007, 12:12:25 AM
I still don't get why the fuck you would make a rickety warehouse building float.

You're just being silly now.  :)
Title: Re: Solo, you going to any late night stores at midnight to pick up CASINO ROYAL
Post by: brawndolicious on March 21, 2007, 01:19:05 AM
It was a serious movie up til then and then a fucking building is sinking.
Title: Re: Solo, you going to any late night stores at midnight to pick up CASINO ROYAL
Post by: TakingBackSunday on March 21, 2007, 06:48:32 AM
It was a serious movie up til then and then a fucking building is sinking.

Let's just look at this now shall we?

Old building
Guns a-firin'
On water with bad supports
on fucking water
WAATER

What the shit is there to be confused about?
Title: Re: Solo, you going to any late night stores at midnight to pick up CASINO ROYALE?
Post by: G The Resurrected on March 21, 2007, 07:26:18 AM
Obvliously nintenho just doesnt understand the building sinking. They removed the support pylons from the bed so they can replace the timbers with composite ones that dont fall apart. The house is temporarly supported by the air bladders. Then after the pylons are put back and the house is rested and connected to them. They then redo the home and it looks fantastic and new. The whole city has to replace thousands upon thousands of the pylons. Costing millions upon millions of dollars. Its crazy, but that house was not really sunk. Its all CGI and a huge set that moves on actuaters and has a tank for water.

I thought that scene was handled very well.
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Post by: littlemathletics on March 21, 2007, 07:43:29 AM
I really thought the pacing went to shit after the car chase. Other than that, it was great.
Title: Re: Solo, you going to any late night stores at midnight to pick up CASINO ROYALE?
Post by: Ichirou on March 21, 2007, 08:14:49 PM
Obvliously nintenho just doesnt understand the building sinking. They removed the support pylons from the bed so they can replace the timbers with composite ones that dont fall apart. The house is temporarly supported by the air bladders. Then after the pylons are put back and the house is rested and connected to them. They then redo the home and it looks fantastic and new. The whole city has to replace thousands upon thousands of the pylons. Costing millions upon millions of dollars. Its crazy, but that house was not really sunk. Its all CGI and a huge set that moves on actuaters and has a tank for water.

I thought that scene was handled very well.

Someone needed to write this post.  Thank you!  Let's hope am nintenho understands.
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Post by: brawndolicious on March 21, 2007, 08:28:49 PM
Okay, but how does a building sinking fit in with the movie?  It's supposed to be serious.  Not random.
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Post by: Ichirou on March 21, 2007, 08:55:13 PM
Okay, but how does a building sinking fit in with the movie?  It's supposed to be serious.  Not random.

...it's an action movie.  The building sinking is not random.  The scene takes place in a building that's in the process of being rebuilt.  In Venice.  City of water.
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Post by: brawndolicious on March 21, 2007, 09:02:22 PM
Oh, action movies have homoerotic zoolander stares now.

Want to see it again?

(http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/mgm/casino_royale/_group_photos/judi_dench1.jpg)

THIS IS SO AWESOME.

(http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/mgm/casino_royale/_group_photos/judi_dench1.jpg)

FEEL YOUR TESTOSTERONE PUMP.

(http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/mgm/casino_royale/_group_photos/judi_dench1.jpg)

IT'S LIKE FUCK.

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and well mother of fuck, not all of venice is water.  Sure as fuck no MOTHERFUCKING WAREHOUSES.
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Title: Re: Solo, you going to any late night stores at midnight to pick up CASINO ROYALE?
Post by: Ichirou on March 21, 2007, 09:24:02 PM
I'm pretty sure all of Venice is built on water, dude.  That includes homes, warehouses, etc.
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Post by: TakingBackSunday on March 21, 2007, 09:24:09 PM
You're probably the most ignorant fucking person I've met in regards to CR.

"WHY ARE PLANES SPLODING?"
"Well, actually, the plane doesn't explode, Bond stops the g-"
"THEN WHAT POINT IS THERE?  LET ME TRASH MORE BY POSTING A PICTURE OF A SCEEN WHERE BOND LOOKS SILLY 50 TIMES."
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Post by: brawndolicious on March 21, 2007, 10:50:42 PM
You realize venice is a metropolis with only the historical buildings and restaraunts on water?

And pretty much any building is built a couple dozen feet away from edge of the street because the waves do a lot of damage over the centuries (that's the only part of venice I know of being rebuilt).
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Post by: Yeti on March 21, 2007, 11:34:56 PM
You realize venice is a metropolis with only the historical buildings and restaraunts on water?

And pretty much any building is built a couple dozen feet away from edge of the street because the waves do a lot of damage over the centuries (that's the only part of venice I know of being rebuilt).

Because all the tourists would want to go visit those buildings that are NOT built on the water. Which is what Bond and Vesper are.
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Post by: brawndolicious on March 22, 2007, 01:02:48 AM
The warehouse isn't on the water?
Title: Re: Solo, you going to any late night stores at midnight to pick up CASINO ROYALE?
Post by: Yeti on March 22, 2007, 02:52:10 AM
What warehouse are you talking about? It was an abandoned building scheduled for renovation, which coincidentally would make a good place for villains to have a secret meeting, hence the reason they were there.
Title: Re: Solo, you going to any late night stores at midnight to pick up CASINO ROYALE?
Post by: Solo on March 22, 2007, 06:36:58 AM
Nintendo, are you actually this distinguished mentally-challenged or just joking around?
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Post by: littlemathletics on March 22, 2007, 06:50:21 AM
It's like he's a joke character for 75% of the time, but then sometimes he'll pull out an intelligent and productive comment.

Sadly, this is not one of those times.
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Post by: brawndolicious on March 22, 2007, 10:17:53 AM
I said it didn't really feel like a bond movie or feel like a serious movie and you all said "No no I want to suck zoolander cock", to which I replied "why?".
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Post by: TakingBackSunday on March 22, 2007, 03:51:48 PM
I said it didn't really feel like a bond movie or feel like a serious movie and you all said "No no I want to suck zoolander cock", to which I replied "why?".

You don't even make SENSE anymore.
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Post by: Cheebs on March 22, 2007, 03:58:22 PM
what does zoolander have to do with anything? Is he trying to say that Craig acted like a pretty boy and did that model face for the camera? Isn't Daniel Craig the OPPOSITE of that?
Title: Re: Solo, you going to any late night stores at midnight to pick up CASINO ROYAL
Post by: TakingBackSunday on March 22, 2007, 04:37:20 PM
what does zoolander have to do with anything? Is he trying to say that Craig acted like a pretty boy and did that model face for the camera? Isn't Daniel Craig the OPPOSITE of that?

Bu-bu-but WHY WAS A BUILDING ASSPLODIN
Title: Re: Solo, you going to any late night stores at midnight to pick up CASINO ROYALE?
Post by: Catz on March 22, 2007, 04:47:33 PM
It wasn't a warehouse. It was a an abandoned house going through renovation in Venice. That's why there were industrial sized air-filled supports underneath to help keep it afloat. The building wasn't key to the plot, the location was just there to intestify the action.
Title: Re: Solo, you going to any late night stores at midnight to pick up CASINO ROYAL
Post by: brawndolicious on March 22, 2007, 05:32:08 PM
I don't see why you can't take a little criticism of the movie.  Daniel Craig, Bond, anything is the opposite of zoolander so you have that look and you'll automatically annoy me and pretty much anbody else.  The house was annoying to me because they could at least try something more interesting then a big abandoned building to blow up.
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Post by: Cheebs on March 22, 2007, 05:33:01 PM
Daniel Craig, Bond, anything is the opposite of zoolander so you have that look and you'll automatically annoy me and pretty much anbody else.
I didn't understand a word of that sentence.
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Post by: The Fake Shemp on March 22, 2007, 05:33:17 PM
It didn't even blow up.  I don't think you watched the movie.
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Post by: Cheebs on March 22, 2007, 05:44:00 PM
if it blew up they'd all be dead!
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Post by: brawndolicious on March 22, 2007, 05:50:39 PM
Nothing about the movie was good.  I highly doubt anybody here has watched it the whole way through in one sitting.  How the fuck can you praise the movie?
Title: Re: Solo, you going to any late night stores at midnight to pick up CASINO ROYAL
Post by: Cheebs on March 22, 2007, 05:55:02 PM
I highly doubt anybody here has watched it the whole way through in one sitting.
Except all those people who saw it in theaters. That made it you know, the biggest Bond film at the box office of all time and was one of the top 5 highest grossing movies of year.


Or did all of them walk out the movie? The movie was a GIGANTIC success at the box office, extremely high reviewed(the highest reviewed mainstream movie of the year, period) and beloved by the public.

You can't see why it met all of these?
Title: Re: Solo, you going to any late night stores at midnight to pick up CASINO ROYAL
Post by: Bloodwake on March 22, 2007, 05:57:10 PM
I've sat through it several times.

It kicks ass.

You are wrong.
Title: Re: Solo, you going to any late night stores at midnight to pick up CASINO ROYAL
Post by: brawndolicious on March 22, 2007, 06:05:40 PM
Okay, and why is it good?
Title: Re: Solo, you going to any late night stores at midnight to pick up CASINO ROYAL
Post by: The Fake Shemp on March 22, 2007, 06:06:48 PM
You are all being trolled by the world's most incoherent poster.
Title: Re: Solo, you going to any late night stores at midnight to pick up CASINO ROYAL
Post by: brawndolicious on March 22, 2007, 06:18:09 PM
Actually when you go through my posts it's funny.

I never even gave a shit about the series.

I just don't get why there's fans of it (it's fucking Bond) and I at least expected half the thread to be criticism of it (I didn't read it because I knew I didn't share Willco's or Solo's opinion) so I threw out a funny picture.  It's just a dumb summer movie to me.
Title: Re: Solo, you going to any late night stores at midnight to pick up CASINO ROYAL
Post by: Cheebs on March 22, 2007, 06:27:24 PM
Plus why would half the press be criticism? ALMOST NO ONE DISLIKED THE MOVIE. It had some of the best reviews of all movies this year.


How is Bond any different than other franchises with fans be it Star Wars or whatever? Why can't it have fans? (other than the fact its more of a "sexy" franchise in its perception)
Title: Re: Solo, you going to any late night stores at midnight to pick up CASINO ROYAL
Post by: brawndolicious on March 22, 2007, 06:29:55 PM
Star Wars is pretty crappy actually.  Bond movies are repetitive and about the explosions, that's pretty obvious.

And I expected people in this thread to dislike this in comparison to other Bond movies.
Title: Re: Solo, you going to any late night stores at midnight to pick up CASINO ROYAL
Post by: Cheebs on March 22, 2007, 06:34:09 PM

And I expected people in this thread to dislike this in comparison to other Bond movies.
Based on what? Cookie cutter explosion filled Bond movies are rarely as well liked as the darker, serious stuff.
Title: Re: Solo, you going to any late night stores at midnight to pick up CASINO ROYAL
Post by: brawndolicious on March 22, 2007, 06:35:30 PM
Yeah but this one didn't have impressive story or action so I can't see why anybody would like it unless you have a hard-on for Bond in general.
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Post by: TakingBackSunday on March 22, 2007, 07:11:06 PM
Yeah but this one didn't have impressive story or action so I can't see why anybody would like it unless you have a hard-on for Bond in general.

Do you even know what the true basis of Bond is about?  Read fucking Casion Royale.  Bond was NEVER supposed to be the Roger Moore-like type in the books, nor was he even portrayed that way in the first few Bond flicks.  Connery in Dr. No, From Russia with Love, and partialy Goldfinger was always smooth and cool, but hardly EVER lame and cheesy–he was a badass.  Those first few films are the CLOSEST to coming near the book's quality in the whole effing series, because Bond in the novels was a hardass as well.  He was calm yet sort of an asshole, not some pansy ass clown like in the 70s Bond flicks.  He has a very basic view on life (until
spoiler (click to show/hide)
Vesper's death
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) and a pretty primitive nature wrapped up in an English gentlemen front.

That's why the Casino Royale movie is one of the best in the series.  It's the closest we've gotten to Bond's original character with an actual believable story.  None of that THERES A LASER ON THE MOOM BRB GONNA GO POOP ON IT crap.

And how can you say there was no impressive action in the film?  The chase sequence with the black dude was one of the best effing actions sequences EVER.
Title: Re: Solo, you going to any late night stores at midnight to pick up CASINO ROYAL
Post by: brawndolicious on March 22, 2007, 07:19:55 PM
What's so impressive about a spy who takes himself seriously?
Title: Re: Solo, you going to any late night stores at midnight to pick up CASINO ROYAL
Post by: Cheebs on March 22, 2007, 07:26:13 PM
Because he is a FUCKING HITMAN FOR THE GOVERMENT, that is basically all he is at the time of CR. It's apparent you want the Batman & Robin of the James Bond franchise, not the Batman Begins. The public, the critics, and the fans all disagree yet you continue this odd odd argument.
Title: Re: Solo, you going to any late night stores at midnight to pick up CASINO ROYAL
Post by: brawndolicious on March 22, 2007, 07:29:32 PM
Batman is an orphan who dresses up in a costume and beats the shit out of random people, this is bond:




spoiler (click to show/hide)
Oh if you're that gay just go to the last page.
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Title: Re: Solo, you going to any late night stores at midnight to pick up CASINO ROYAL
Post by: Cheebs on March 22, 2007, 07:33:39 PM
It seems that if a movie is a blockbuster you want it to be more "exciting" and less serious.

Why can't a mainstream blockbuster be serious and dramatic?
Title: Re: Solo, you going to any late night stores at midnight to pick up CASINO ROYAL
Post by: brawndolicious on March 22, 2007, 07:35:49 PM
There's no problem with that, I don't get why people here think it's a great movie.
Title: Re: Solo, you going to any late night stores at midnight to pick up CASINO ROYAL
Post by: Cheebs on March 22, 2007, 07:36:33 PM
you have said no reasons why it is bad other than its serious and a building sinks though.
Title: Re: Solo, you going to any late night stores at midnight to pick up CASINO ROYAL
Post by: brawndolicious on March 22, 2007, 07:38:03 PM
That it tries to be serious and it ties together the ending of it's failed effort with a building sinking.
Title: Re: Solo, you going to any late night stores at midnight to pick up CASINO ROYAL
Post by: TakingBackSunday on March 22, 2007, 07:47:46 PM
That it tries to be serious and it ties together the ending of it's failed effort with a building sinking.

I'm seriously contemplating pooping in your mouth, but it would be a waste considering you're already full of shit.

Here's what happens dick:
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Vesper was a double-agent.  She was being blackmailed to be such.  She needed the money to pay off the secret organization so she could have her old love back.  Bond and Vesper were in Venice while traveling.  She goes to the bank to get more funds, only really she went to deposit all of the winnings out of the bank to give it to Black-Patch dude, who's rendevous point is at an abandoned building somewhere on the outskirts of the main area in the city.  Bond realizes what the shit is up and follows.  He makes himself seen to Black-Patch, and then they shoot at Bond.  Bond follows them in the building, and shoots the supports that make the building go fuck-shit insane.  Vesper is put into an elevator shaft that is locked.  Bond kills the baddies and tries to save her, but the building is collapsing, thus taking Vesper down with it.  Bond calls M, "The bitch is dead," end of fucking movie.
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How....HOW can you be so fucking confused over this shit?  The building collapsing was just PART of the damn sequence that MADE Vesper die.  They filmmakers weren't just like "oh yeah Vesper's a double-agent and she'll be going to give the guys the money, SO LETS BLOW UP A FUCKING BUILDING."  Besides, the building COLLAPSED, but "blown-up."
Title: Re: Solo, you going to any late night stores at midnight to pick up CASINO ROYAL
Post by: brawndolicious on March 22, 2007, 07:56:55 PM
That's not a good story.
Title: Re: Solo, you going to any late night stores at midnight to pick up CASINO ROYAL
Post by: Cheebs on March 22, 2007, 08:09:53 PM
then blame fucking ian fleming the creator of bond for doing it, the story was damn close to the novel.
Title: Re: Solo, you going to any late night stores at midnight to pick up CASINO ROYAL
Post by: TakingBackSunday on March 22, 2007, 08:16:37 PM
That's not a good story.

Okay, what's a good story for YOU, hm?
Title: Re: Solo, you going to any late night stores at midnight to pick up CASINO ROYAL
Post by: brawndolicious on March 22, 2007, 08:35:05 PM
Ronin was in the same genre and it was infinitely better.
Title: Re: Solo, you going to any late night stores at midnight to pick up CASINO ROYAL
Post by: TakingBackSunday on March 22, 2007, 08:39:02 PM
Ronin was in the same genre and it was infinitely better.

...They're both action movies.  There's like 200 actions flicks a YEAR.  You seriously fail, stop posting in this thread.
Title: Re: Solo, you going to any late night stores at midnight to pick up CASINO ROYAL
Post by: brawndolicious on March 22, 2007, 08:40:46 PM
Ronin had a more interesting story with better plot twists.

Casino Royale had one line:

"bitch is dead"

and you 'gasmed all over it.
Title: Re: Solo, you going to any late night stores at midnight to pick up CASINO ROYAL
Post by: Cheebs on March 22, 2007, 08:43:39 PM
vesper being a bad guy wasn't a twist?
le chiffre only being a lowly person, not the main bad guy isn't a twist?
Title: Re: Solo, you going to any late night stores at midnight to pick up CASINO ROYAL
Post by: TakingBackSunday on March 22, 2007, 08:54:57 PM
Ronin had a more interesting story with better plot twists.

Casino Royale had one line:

"bitch is dead"

and you 'gasmed all over it.

We like the line because it's a line taken STRAIGHT out of the novel, which hardly EVER happens.
Title: Re: Solo, you going to any late night stores at midnight to pick up CASINO ROYAL
Post by: brawndolicious on March 22, 2007, 08:57:33 PM
I said it had worse plot twists.  None of the story was ever interesting to me.  Only interesting part was a one-liner at the end.
Title: Re: Solo, you going to any late night stores at midnight to pick up CASINO ROYALE?
Post by: Solo on March 23, 2007, 07:40:59 AM
I hereby suggest we instate a minimum IQ requirement for browsing the internet.
Title: Re: Solo, you going to any late night stores at midnight to pick up CASINO ROYAL
Post by: Cheebs on March 23, 2007, 08:12:40 AM
I still don't get why he brought up Zoolander so many times.
Title: Re: Solo, you going to any late night stores at midnight to pick up CASINO ROYAL
Post by: brawndolicious on March 23, 2007, 10:20:31 AM
To troll...
Title: Re: Solo, you going to any late night stores at midnight to pick up CASINO ROYAL
Post by: Cheebs on March 23, 2007, 10:34:27 AM
why zoolander though?
Title: Re: Solo, you going to any late night stores at midnight to pick up CASINO ROYALE?
Post by: brawndolicious on March 23, 2007, 01:31:50 PM
Because he looks like him.
Title: Re: Solo, you going to any late night stores at midnight to pick up CASINO ROYAL
Post by: Cheebs on March 23, 2007, 01:34:15 PM
(http://www.empireonline.com/images/magazine/promotions/207/bond_1280x1024.jpg)

(http://www.gamerevolution.com/images/misc/zoolander.jpg)

no?
Title: Re: Solo, you going to any late night stores at midnight to pick up CASINO ROYALE?
Post by: brawndolicious on March 23, 2007, 01:37:45 PM
I'm not going post that picture again.  I'm on a mac, I don't know how to do that.

They took possibly my favorite taco actor and metro'd him up.

They can't be forgiven for that.
Title: Re: Solo, you going to any late night stores at midnight to pick up CASINO ROYAL
Post by: Cheebs on March 23, 2007, 01:55:35 PM
taco actor? Daniel Craig is not gay, if he was the media would have made a HUGE deal about it. I know he is not married but that means nothing
Title: Re: Solo, you going to any late night stores at midnight to pick up CASINO ROYAL
Post by: TakingBackSunday on March 23, 2007, 02:07:23 PM
Who teh fuck did you want for Bond, effing Nicholson or something?
Title: Re: Solo, you going to any late night stores at midnight to pick up CASINO ROYALE?
Post by: brawndolicious on March 23, 2007, 03:32:21 PM
I thought he was gay because he had a huge gay fanbase.
Title: Re: Solo, you going to any late night stores at midnight to pick up CASINO ROYAL
Post by: Cheebs on March 23, 2007, 03:56:59 PM
wtf you are very odd.

Title: Re: Solo, you going to any late night stores at midnight to pick up CASINO ROYALE?
Post by: brawndolicious on March 23, 2007, 04:05:59 PM
Yeah this was the article:
http://www.femalefirst.co.uk/entertainment/Gay+Bond-22839.html

The guy did some onscreen homoin' so I got some respect for him.
Title: Re: Solo, you going to any late night stores at midnight to pick up CASINO ROYAL
Post by: Cheebs on March 23, 2007, 04:09:36 PM
You fool. He said he wouldn't mind bond having a gay relationship. You realize that doesn't make him gay right? He has a daughter(though he has never been married).
Title: Re: Solo, you going to any late night stores at midnight to pick up CASINO ROYAL
Post by: brawndolicious on March 23, 2007, 05:33:55 PM
I said he was a taco actor, not a taco.
Title: Re: Solo, you going to any late night stores at midnight to pick up CASINO ROYAL
Post by: TakingBackSunday on March 23, 2007, 05:35:32 PM
I said he was a taco actor, not a taco.

Do you seriously have this as an opinion?  He has a gay fanbase...so he's a bad Bond?  Are you...are you kidding me?  EVERY actor has a gay fanbase.  I'm pretty sure the 60s gays (there were lots of them) wanted to fuck Connery harder than any man they've met.  Big deal!
Title: Re: Solo, you going to any late night stores at midnight to pick up CASINO ROYAL
Post by: brawndolicious on March 23, 2007, 05:39:06 PM
I said I liked the fact that they got a guy that didn't act like Bond to play him bu that they then "purtied" him up for no reason.
Title: Re: Solo, you going to any late night stores at midnight to pick up CASINO ROYAL
Post by: TakingBackSunday on March 23, 2007, 05:46:29 PM
*shakes head*
Craig in some 2001 movie (probably Lara Croft)
(http://www.indepundit.com/archive2/newbond.JPG)
Craig in Bond:
(http://www.filmweb.no/bilder/multimedia/archive/00099/Daniel_Craig_som_Jam_99362o.jpg)

I don't see a difference in gayness.  The only thing is that he bulked up quite a bit.  I can't see your reasoning, as usual.
Title: Re: Solo, you going to any late night stores at midnight to pick up CASINO ROYAL
Post by: Cheebs on March 23, 2007, 05:52:29 PM
How did he not act like Bond? He is the closet to Ian Fleming's character out of ALL the actors so far. Craig is easily the most Bond like person to play Bond so far. Followed by Dalton and Connery.
Title: Re: Solo, you going to any late night stores at midnight to pick up CASINO ROYAL
Post by: brawndolicious on March 23, 2007, 05:55:01 PM
*shakes head*
I don't see a difference in gayness.  The only thing is that he bulked up quite a bit.  I can't see your reasoning, as usual.
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I think we'll have to agree to disagree.

How did he not act like Bond? He is the closet to Ian Fleming's character out of ALL the actors so far. Craig is easily the most Bond like person to play Bond so far. Followed by Dalton and Connery.

He didn't act like the Bond in the movies.
Title: Re: Solo, you going to any late night stores at midnight to pick up CASINO ROYAL
Post by: TakingBackSunday on March 23, 2007, 06:06:09 PM
*shakes head*
I don't see a difference in gayness.  The only thing is that he bulked up quite a bit.  I can't see your reasoning, as usual.
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I think we'll have to agree to disagree.

How did he not act like Bond? He is the closet to Ian Fleming's character out of ALL the actors so far. Craig is easily the most Bond like person to play Bond so far. Followed by Dalton and Connery.

He didn't act like the Bond in the movies.

Okay okay...you keep posting a shot of him where he's posing in an odd way.  Big fucking deal.  That makes him less Bond-like?

And holy SHIT, you just don't understand.  Bond fans DONT WANT to see another Bond-character be infected by the Roger Moore curse.  We DON'T want to see him act like that, we want to see a faithful representation.
Title: Re: Solo, you going to any late night stores at midnight to pick up CASINO ROYAL
Post by: brawndolicious on March 23, 2007, 06:12:33 PM
I said I wanted him to act differently than he did in the other movies and so I was dissappointed when they still made him stupid-looking.

I didn't like the story either.
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Post by: Cheebs on March 23, 2007, 06:14:47 PM
He wasn't like the Bond of the movies in the past. NO ONE WANTED THAT. This is the Bond of the Ian Fleming original. The movie bond evolved into a jokey caricature. No one wants to keep that old hokey movie bond that was of the Brosnan ilk. No one but you it seems.
Title: Re: Solo, you going to any late night stores at midnight to pick up CASINO ROYAL
Post by: brawndolicious on March 23, 2007, 06:24:50 PM
I said that the last movies had decent action as their only good thing and that's something that was missing from CS (aside from a few scenes).  I always hated James Bond even when I was a kid and that's why CS should have been a lot better than it was.  It was ruined by a crappy story (I'm not comparing this to the past Bonds now) and no drama whatsoever.  It really felt like a dumb summer movie, when it was supposed to be a lot fucking better than a dumb summer movie.
Title: Re: Solo, you going to any late night stores at midnight to pick up CASINO ROYAL
Post by: TakingBackSunday on March 23, 2007, 06:31:52 PM
No drama?  The whole end WAS drama.  Take it up, like Cheebs I think said earlier, with Ian Flemings dead corpse if you hate the story so much.  It's no fault of the filmmakers–even though it rocked (sorry, you're just wrong).  I can't take your opinion seriously anyway, considering you never liked Bond in the first place.  Just leave this thread.

(http://tinypic.com/ejzl20.jpg)
"Well then you're and idiot."
(http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r58/holistic845/Home-cinnamonkey.jpg)
"What?"
(http://www.mi6.co.uk/sections/articles/images/daniel_craig_4.jpg)
"I SAID YOU'RE A BLOODY IDIOT!"
Title: Re: Solo, you going to any late night stores at midnight to pick up CASINO ROYAL
Post by: brawndolicious on March 23, 2007, 06:37:27 PM
"The bitch is dead."

"'GASM.  DRAMA.  I'M 'GASMING.  IT'S BOND.  AND I'M A BOND FAN."

Shut the fuck up you fucking idiot.
Title: Re: Solo, you going to any late night stores at midnight to pick up CASINO ROYAL
Post by: Cheebs on March 23, 2007, 06:45:16 PM
you haven't read the novel so you don't get why that line being in the movie is a big deal.
Title: Re: Solo, you going to any late night stores at midnight to pick up CASINO ROYAL
Post by: brawndolicious on March 23, 2007, 07:05:30 PM
Am I missing a part of the story or the relevance to people who read the book?
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Post by: TakingBackSunday on March 23, 2007, 07:32:55 PM
Am I missing a part of the story or the relevance to people who read the book?

In the book the line was used a bit differently.  Like in the movie, Bond does fall for her and he's about ready to marry her until he notices questionable things about her personality–she starts to get cold and doesn't really consult in Bond anymore.  They then talk things out and make love, yada yada, and she says she'll tell him the truth the next day.  He goes into her room the next morning and she killed herself with some poison.  He is really depressed for some moments then realizes from the note she left that she was playing him the whole time.  He gets angry at this and this makes his character evolve into the non-trusting Bond that shows up in the next few novels.  He calls up MI6 and to tell them that she was a double agent.  The other end asked "was?" and Bond replies, "Yes dammit, was.  The bitch is dead now."  So they're extremely similar to each other, both medium's lines, but there's just a small difference.

I'm just saying that the line is just cool.  He says it in the movie in a way like: "Welp, the girl was a player, but the bitch is dead now.  Give me another fucking assignment."  He's going to be a cool character next movie along.
Title: Re: Solo, you going to any late night stores at midnight to pick up CASINO ROYAL
Post by: The Fake Shemp on March 23, 2007, 07:40:08 PM
Bond has no more armor - he's just dead inside now.
Title: Re: Solo, you going to any late night stores at midnight to pick up CASINO ROYAL
Post by: brawndolicious on March 23, 2007, 07:43:21 PM
That's completely different than the movie.
Title: Re: Solo, you going to any late night stores at midnight to pick up CASINO ROYAL
Post by: The Fake Shemp on March 23, 2007, 07:44:05 PM
No, not really.  I applaud the fact that you've managed to troll not one, but two people in your stupid scheme for so many pages, though.
Title: Re: Solo, you going to any late night stores at midnight to pick up CASINO ROYAL
Post by: brawndolicious on March 23, 2007, 07:50:17 PM
One died by suicide and left a note.  The other had a buidling collapse onto them underwater.

They could've done what was in the book and have her do a suicide and that's the end of the story, but they didn't because they didn't want to sacrifice their fanbase.
Title: Re: Solo, you going to any late night stores at midnight to pick up CASINO ROYAL
Post by: Cheebs on March 23, 2007, 08:26:18 PM
she killed yourself you idiot. She refused to let bond open the door she LOCKED it soon as he swam to her and then opened up her mouth and gulped down water. SUICIDE.
Title: Re: Solo, you going to any late night stores at midnight to pick up CASINO ROYAL
Post by: brawndolicious on March 23, 2007, 08:34:45 PM
I know she commited suicide but obviously the creators of the script felt it was very important to add a lot of action to it.
Title: Re: Solo, you going to any late night stores at midnight to pick up CASINO ROYAL
Post by: Phoenix Dark on March 23, 2007, 08:56:45 PM
taco actor? Daniel Craig is not gay, if he was the media would have made a HUGE deal about it. I know he is not married but that means nothing

Didn't he say he wouldn't mind doing homosexual scenes in the next Bond?
Title: Re: Solo, you going to any late night stores at midnight to pick up CASINO ROYAL
Post by: TakingBackSunday on March 24, 2007, 12:16:27 AM
I know she commited suicide but obviously the creators of the script felt it was very important to add a lot of action to it.

So how is that a problem?
Title: Re: Solo, you going to any late night stores at midnight to pick up CASINO ROYAL
Post by: Phoenix Dark on March 24, 2007, 12:24:04 AM
I know she commited suicide but obviously the creators of the script felt it was very important to add a lot of action to it.

That entire part was horrible. It seemed like once they left the casino for good the movie got considerably worse.
Title: Re: Solo, you going to any late night stores at midnight to pick up CASINO ROYAL
Post by: brawndolicious on March 24, 2007, 01:58:07 AM
So how is that a problem?
Well they seemed to have an apparantly decent-ass ending and fucked it up completely.
Title: Re: Solo, you going to any late night stores at midnight to pick up CASINO ROYAL
Post by: Ichirou on March 24, 2007, 02:55:00 AM
So how is that a problem?
Well they seemed to have an apparantly decent-ass ending and fucked it up completely.

Please stop trolling this thread, Mr. O'Reilly.
Title: Re: Solo, you going to any late night stores at midnight to pick up CASINO ROYAL
Post by: brawndolicious on March 24, 2007, 03:04:55 AM
Please stop trolling this thread, Mr. O'Reilly.
Oh so I trolled you into thinking you're a taco.  Well, you little uppity bitch, I'll leave you with some wank material.

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Title: Re: Solo, you going to any late night stores at midnight to pick up CASINO ROYAL
Post by: Ichirou on March 24, 2007, 03:34:08 AM
I came.  Right on your face, nintenho.  Sorry about that.  You didn't swallow much, did you?  :-*
Title: Re: Solo, you going to any late night stores at midnight to pick up CASINO ROYALE?
Post by: Vizzys on March 24, 2007, 04:05:11 AM
I owned amnintenho four pages back lol
Title: Re: Solo, you going to any late night stores at midnight to pick up CASINO ROYALE?
Post by: Solo on March 24, 2007, 07:29:47 AM
am nintendo, I do believe you have taken the crown for the biggest idiot I've come across on the internet, and I've met quite a few, so congratulations. Not because you hate a movie I love, as that is no big deal, everyone has different tastes. No, you are an idiot because the "arguments" you state against the movie are borderline distinguished mentally-challenged and have nothing to with the actual, you know, movie.

How to criticize a movie:
- complain about the acting, writing, pacing, direction, originality/creativity of the piece, the cinematography, the message the film is sending, etc.

How not to criticize a movie: Or how I learned to stop thinking and become am nintendo:
- complain about the "gayness" of the actors (WTF?), complain about stupid miniscule shit in a movie that has no bearing on anything whatsoever (ZOMG DA HOUSE SUNK IN DA VENICE LOLZ), complain that a film based on a book isn't faithful enough to the recent movies in the franchise, which themselves were complete bastardizations.
Title: Re: Solo, you going to any late night stores at midnight to pick up CASINO ROYAL
Post by: Cheebs on March 24, 2007, 08:07:44 AM
He was owned when he said he read most of the novels and his favorite was goldeneye  :lol

(Goldeneye was made up for film, no novel)
Title: Re: Solo, you going to any late night stores at midnight to pick up CASINO ROYAL
Post by: TakingBackSunday on March 24, 2007, 10:44:05 AM
I think he needs banned personally...can you get away with posting that fucking picture like 50 times in one single post?  Honestly.
Title: Re: Solo, you going to any late night stores at midnight to pick up CASINO ROYAL
Post by: brawndolicious on March 24, 2007, 03:29:48 PM

Solo, I said the story wasn't good.

I said Bond wasn't good.

I said the book was a hell of a lot better.

I asked what was good and people said it was close to the book (but not really apparantly).
Title: Re: Solo, you going to any late night stores at midnight to pick up CASINO ROYALE?
Post by: Solo on March 24, 2007, 03:39:25 PM
You haven't read the book you halfwit.
Title: Re: Solo, you going to any late night stores at midnight to pick up CASINO ROYAL
Post by: brawndolicious on March 24, 2007, 03:45:48 PM
Well apparantly they thought the story needed to be dumbed down.  Very dumbed down.  That makes me assume the book is better.
Title: Re: Solo, you going to any late night stores at midnight to pick up CASINO ROYAL
Post by: TakingBackSunday on March 24, 2007, 04:00:45 PM
Well apparantly they thought the story needed to be dumbed down.  Very dumbed down.  That makes me assume the book is better.

YOU SAID YOU READ THE FUCKING NOVELS YOU FUCKTARD.  This is YOU on page 5:
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I personally didn't like the novels and I liked:

Goldeneye and that's all I can remember.

So not only did you LIE about reading the novels and then have us EXPLAIN the story of CR to you (thus proving you being bull-fucking-shit), but you also lied about Goldeneye being your favorite novel....when it's not a Fleming book at all.
Title: Re: Solo, you going to any late night stores at midnight to pick up CASINO ROYAL
Post by: brawndolicious on March 24, 2007, 04:04:16 PM
Read it in elementary school.  Never read Casino Royale.