Why did you change the topic title?
We won't?Why did you change the topic title?
I know now we all look stupid! I say we all edit our posts saying how we wont have gay sex with him!
Yes.
A lot of women dont have to HAVE kids, adoption is a nice middle ground.That makes no sense at all.
You know, pushing a screaming child out of their crotch. Makes perfect sense.
Yes.
Do you still want kids if Nick won't be the father?
What if the kids' biological parents are PD and Lemurs. Who wants to raise that!
What if the kids' biological parents are PD and Lemurs. Who wants to raise that!
That would be the craziest fucking kid ever. BTW malek, SEND ME YOUR ESSAY! :)
Only if you write my paper on 'truth'. You do know what the correspondence theory of truth is, right?What if the kids' biological parents are PD and Lemurs. Who wants to raise that!
That would be the craziest fucking kid ever. BTW malek, SEND ME YOUR ESSAY! :)
IMO the only reason to adopt would be because you were unable to conceive, would have trouble carrying out the pregnancy or birthing or had a genetic predisposition to certain diseases.Or because there are kids who need to be adopted.
Not because you can't be bothered coping with pain.
1-3 kids
Read mine yet?
Only if you write my paper on 'truth'. You do know what the correspondence theory of truth is, right?
1-3 kids
What happened to the other 3 kids you were given?
I'd prefer to conceive a kid on my own, you know, blood relations and all that.
Are you a woman?No I'm gay so that means I can't speak on these issues? ::)
Furthermore there are plenty of children out there that need homes.
Who the cares? If the mother does not want to deal with the birthing process (which is more than just labor pain) and neither parent is intent on having a biological child, by all means, adoption is a great choice. Again, there are tons of kids who need to be adopted. Does it really matter how the parents reach that decision?Are you a woman?No I'm gay so that means I can't speak on these issues? ::)
Furthermore there are plenty of children out there that need homes.
What I read MAF to be implying was that women wanted to adopt simply because they did not want to cope with the pain. Really with all the medical help available and the fact that birthing has happened for many thousands of years naturally that seems a bit stupid.
Unless there is medical reason or you want to adopt for humanitarian reasons (which I forgot about).
What if the kids' biological parents are PD and Lemurs. Who wants to raise that!
No, it's a what if... like Descartes malevolent trickster in the Meditations.What if the kids' biological parents are PD and Lemurs. Who wants to raise that!
Are you implying PD and Lemurs are having sex?
What if the kids' biological parents are PD and Lemurs. Who wants to raise that!
I love kids. I'd love to raise a kid.
I've never had a problem with children. I don't see why people "hate" them. That seems to be going too far, haha.
Do you want to rasie the children of a man who has a mullet?
I hate the PARENTS of the brat children, not the kids themselves lolThe shared home environment is responsible for 0% of the variation in behavioral traits of grown children. If children resemble their parents, it's because they share the same genes, bot because of their upbringing.
Because if you're good enough with kids, you can make them act good.
Two parents in a house hold is the healthiest thing. Right Dr. Malek?Even if the parents are you and Lemurs? Or mullet and fatty?
Two parents in a house hold is the healthiest thing. Right Dr. Malek?Even if the parents are you and Lemurs? Or mullet and fatty?
Two parents in a house hold is the healthiest thing. Right Dr. Malek?Even if the parents are you and Lemurs? Or mullet and fatty?
If I had children with Lemurs I'd be very wary of Beezy who has made his unhealthy obsession with blasians public
Id rather be dead. Actually being dead would be so sweet. No more work, no more thinking and doing stuff...
I want one kid, my wife wants two. She'll probably win that argument.
But, not for another 4 or 5 years.
Id rather be dead. Actually being dead would be so sweet. No more work, no more thinking and doing stuff...
I want one kid, my wife wants two. She'll probably win that argument.
But, not for another 4 or 5 years.
being a single child - have two.
IMO the only reason to adopt would be because you were unable to conceive, would have trouble carrying out the pregnancy or birthing or had a genetic predisposition to certain diseases.Or because there are kids who need to be adopted.
Not because you can't be bothered coping with pain.
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I was at a McDonals the other day and saw three annoying girls. Right away I knew the mother weighed 200 pounds and the father had a mullet. NAILED IT. Do you want to raise the children of a man who has a mullet?
i have one, and she is a worthy heir. there shall be no others.
i don't want kids ever. i'll pass on the months of being huge, stretch marks, crankiness/morning sickness and the experience of pushing a screaming human being out of my cunt for the sole reward of having to support them for 18 years, probably more. i'll use the money i saved to buy myself a porsche or something. i'll make sure to wave at you parents when i drive by you on the highway.
i don't want kids ever. i'll pass on the months of being huge, stretch marks, crankiness/morning sickness and the experience of pushing a screaming human being out of my cunt for the sole reward of having to support them for 18 years, probably more. i'll use the money i saved to buy myself a porsche or something. i'll make sure to wave at you parents when i drive by you on the highway.
i don't want kids ever. i'll pass on the months of being huge, stretch marks, crankiness/morning sickness and the experience of pushing a screaming human being out of my cunt for the sole reward of having to support them for 18 years, probably more. i'll use the money i saved to buy myself a porsche or something. i'll make sure to wave at you parents when i drive by you on the highway.See I can respect this. I don't understand how a woman wanting to avoid the 9 months of 'insert rant' will then adopt a child to put up with 18 years of bullshit, heartache etc - makes no sense to me.
i don't want kids ever. i'll pass on the months of being huge, stretch marks, crankiness/morning sickness and the experience of pushing a screaming human being out of my cunt for the sole reward of having to support them for 18 years, probably more. i'll use the money i saved to buy myself a porsche or something. i'll make sure to wave at you parents when i drive by you on the highway.See I can respect this. I don't understand how a woman wanting to avoid the 9 months of 'insert rant' will then adopt a child to put up with 18 years of bullshit, heartache etc - makes no sense to me.
Some women aren't as selfish as you, and are mature and loving enough to want to do it?I would say such women are immature or illogical because they don't want to deal with 9 months of 'rant' but then adopt and think the 18 years (and more) will be a lot easier the pregnancy.
Do you have a problem understanding that some people actually enjoy those 18 years? With your logic the human race would have ended a long time ago. Some people do in fact enjoy raising kids and supporting a family. Some don't. Christ...Some women aren't as selfish as you, and are mature and loving enough to want to do it?I would say such women are immature or illogical because they don't want to deal with 9 months of 'rant' but then adopt and think the 18 years (and more) will be a lot easier the pregnancy.
Do you have a problem understanding that some people actually enjoy those 18 years? With your logic the human race would have ended a long time ago. Some people do in fact enjoy raising kids and supporting a family. Some don't. Christ...No the point was brought by the pain of childbirth so I brought up the point of pain through raising a child. Don't try to attempt to constrew the line of thought.
Some people don't view it as a "pain" to raise a kid. I don't know why you're trying to establish that there is a legitimate reason for not wanting to have a child. If someone doesn't want to, cool. That's their choice. It's silly to judge (http://www.evilbore.com/forum/index.php?topic=7351.msg175416#msg175416) a decision like that.Do you have a problem understanding that some people actually enjoy those 18 years? With your logic the human race would have ended a long time ago. Some people do in fact enjoy raising kids and supporting a family. Some don't. Christ...No the point was brought by the pain of childbirth so I brought up the point of pain through raising a child. Don't try to attempt to constrew the line of thought.
If I were to take your line of thought alot of people here view pregnancy and childbirth as simply a biological function, while others see it as something more emotional and spiritual connection with their child that can never be broken.
I think this point has been confused since I have always been talking about MAF's point, while others (PD) have set to confuse or broaden the issue.Some people don't view it as a "pain" to raise a kid. I don't know why you're trying to establish that there is a legitimate reason for not wanting to have a child. If someone doesn't want to, cool. That's their choice. It's silly to judge (http://www.evilbore.com/forum/index.php?topic=7351.msg175416#msg175416) a decision like that.Do you have a problem understanding that some people actually enjoy those 18 years? With your logic the human race would have ended a long time ago. Some people do in fact enjoy raising kids and supporting a family. Some don't. Christ...No the point was brought by the pain of childbirth so I brought up the point of pain through raising a child. Don't try to attempt to constrew the line of thought.
If I were to take your line of thought alot of people here view pregnancy and childbirth as simply a biological function, while others see it as something more emotional and spiritual connection with their child that can never be broken.
You can't compare stress and a different lifestyle to physical pain, which is what a lot of women are afraid of in birth. People like to feel needed, which is why the weight of the load those 18 years is greatly reduced. I don't think the two are comparable.I think this point has been confused since I have always been talking about MAF's point, while others (PD) have set to confuse or broaden the issue.Some people don't view it as a "pain" to raise a kid. I don't know why you're trying to establish that there is a legitimate reason for not wanting to have a child. If someone doesn't want to, cool. That's their choice. It's silly to judge (http://www.evilbore.com/forum/index.php?topic=7351.msg175416#msg175416) a decision like that.Do you have a problem understanding that some people actually enjoy those 18 years? With your logic the human race would have ended a long time ago. Some people do in fact enjoy raising kids and supporting a family. Some don't. Christ...No the point was brought by the pain of childbirth so I brought up the point of pain through raising a child. Don't try to attempt to constrew the line of thought.
If I were to take your line of thought alot of people here view pregnancy and childbirth as simply a biological function, while others see it as something more emotional and spiritual connection with their child that can never be broken.
In MAF's scenario a woman decides to adopt a child to simply forego pregnancy and birth citing that it is too difficult. All I am saying that everything being equal 18 years + of raising a child is probably more difficult than 9 months of pregnancy and birth. Such that I consider these women are stupid and possibly feeding into some celebrity worship shop and adopt scheme.
Yes. I am a only child and wish I didn't grow up a only child. It gets very lonely. :-\I want one kid, my wife wants two. She'll probably win that argument.
But, not for another 4 or 5 years.
being a single child - have two.
Yes. I am a only child and wish I didn't grow up a only child. It gets very lonely. :-\I want one kid, my wife wants two. She'll probably win that argument.
But, not for another 4 or 5 years.
being a single child - have two.
i don't want kids period. i hate them. i may be selfish but at least i'm smart enough to realize i'd make a shitty mother. plus, you know, lesiure time.
i don't want kids period. i hate them. i may be selfish but at least i'm smart enough to realize i'd make a shitty mother. plus, you know, lesiure time.
I'd want to get one when I was comfortable with where I was in life - career, living, and all that. Early-Mid 30s, maybe? It's not likely given my rate with women, but a man can dream.
I'd want to get one when I was comfortable with where I was in life - career, living, and all that. Early-Mid 30s, maybe? It's not likely given my rate with women, but a man can dream.
No, never want to have them. Had a vasectomy years ago to ensure that I wouldn't ever be saddled with them.
For me and my fiance (and wife in a couple of weeks, yay!), it was more of a lifestyle choice than anything else. For her, it was two things-one, she's getting up there in years (she turns 39 on Saturday), and two, she doesn't like the notion of being saddled for the next two decades with the responsibility of raising a child, which GREATLY reduces your capability to do whatever the hell you want. This includes the following favorites:
A) sex on demand
B) sleeping in until 1:00 PM on a weekend if you feel like it.
C) Going on an impromptu vacation if there is a super-rare bird spotting or raptor irruption somewhere.
D) Moving somewhere else whenever you feel like it.
E) Peaceful, quiet evenings reading or playing games.
Some of these things you can still do if you have a kid, it's just tons tons harder. I prefer easy mode.
For me, it was all that plus the financial and freetime aspects. I've seen what parenting has done to some of the people I work with, and it's pretty scary to me. They are always running around doing stuff and have virtually no identity that's not invested in their children. Yes, they take it to the extremes but I does really scare me off from children. Also, I want to retire early ( due to the age difference between my fiance and I) from rat-race activities and, thanks to dual professional income and no children, that's looking very possible.
I have a feeling most people in this thread will have changed their opinion 100% in say, 5 yearsBy the time everyone in this topic is 40 I expect 90% of them to have had a kid, regardless what they say now.
No, never want to have them. Had a vasectomy years ago to ensure that I wouldn't ever be saddled with them.
For me and my fiance (and wife in a couple of weeks, yay!), it was more of a lifestyle choice than anything else. For her, it was two things-one, she's getting up there in years (she turns 39 on Saturday), and two, she doesn't like the notion of being saddled for the next two decades with the responsibility of raising a child, which GREATLY reduces your capability to do whatever the hell you want. This includes the following favorites:
A) sex on demand
B) sleeping in until 1:00 PM on a weekend if you feel like it.
C) Going on an impromptu vacation if there is a super-rare bird spotting or raptor irruption somewhere.
D) Moving somewhere else whenever you feel like it.
E) Peaceful, quiet evenings reading or playing games.
Some of these things you can still do if you have a kid, it's just tons tons harder. I prefer easy mode.
For me, it was all that plus the financial and freetime aspects. I've seen what parenting has done to some of the people I work with, and it's pretty scary to me. They are always running around doing stuff and have virtually no identity that's not invested in their children. Yes, they take it to the extremes but I does really scare me off from children. Also, I want to retire early ( due to the age difference between my fiance and I) from rat-race activities and, thanks to dual professional income and no children, that's looking very possible.
good post. pretty much exactly how i feel.
there was a point in time where my doctor thought i might be infertile due to some problems i was having with my reproductive system. i was psyched about that for a while, but it turned out to be untrue. :-\ :'(
my parents were all worried that i wouldn't be able to ever find a husband if i was unable to have children, but i thought they were being stupid. i wish they knew there were more people like you. besides, if you find yourself unable to love someone just because they can't give birth, then you're an asshole. and in my case, won't means can't. i couldn't bring myself to do it. the mere thought repulses me.
I have a feeling most people in this thread will have changed their opinion 100% in say, 5 yearsBy the time everyone in this topic is 40 I expect 90% of them to have had a kid, regardless what they say now.
NINE COMMON REASONS GIVEN FOR HAVING CHILDREN:
1. Personal experience - to have the experience of being a parent
2. Personal pleasure - the fun and joy of raising children
3. Personal extension - carrying on the genetic heritage or family name
4. Relationship - the close bond which is shared with children
5. Personal status - culture affords some respect just for being a parent
6. Personal competence - gratification from facing the challenge of parenting
7. Personal responsibility - the opportunity to look out for the welfare and education of another
8. Personal power - some find the power they have over children gratifying
9. Moral worth - some feel it is a good and selfless act to put the life of another first, or that it is a moral obligation to have children
THIRTEEN COMMON REASONS GIVEN FOR NOT HAVING CHILDREN:
1. Time together - more time each other and for other interests
2. Freedom - more opportunity to pursue other areas of life
3. Other children - can enjoy other children, and can help children who are already here through foster parenting or charity work with children
4. Dual careers - both people may pursue careers full time, a person (woman) does not have to quit, and a child is not raised by day care
5. Financial security - more money to pursue other interests
6. Community welfare - greater opportunity to get involved in community organizations
7. Difficulty - parenthood is a demanding and difficult job which is not always enjoyable
8. Strain on environmental resources - the world is already overpopulated and is unable to support the people who are already here
9. Increase in overpopulation - having children geometrically increases this problem and all of the problems that come with it
10. Choice not mandate - parenthood has to be a choice, not everyone is meant to be a parent
11. Irrevocable decision - once the decision is made it cannot be changed, so people must be sure it is what they want
12. Failure - some people had unhappy or abusive childhoods and fear that they would not be a good parent
13. Danger - the world is a dangerous place and it is not right to bring a child into it
I think you're just looking at it from a narrow - maybe selfish - point of view. You don't want kids so you have more time for yourself?
Having children is probably one of the most enjoyable experiences in life. Pregnancy is a beautiful thing. Having your own kids SEEMS like it's a nice experience. I mean, it's your own flesh and blood. Just think of how much love you'll receive from your child, and vice versa.
Holy shit, this is FOXNEWS-esque propaganda.
Holy shit, this is FOXNEWS-esque propaganda.
well, those are actual answers from a survey done by spencer rathus and jeffery nevid, two psychologists who have done a lot of surveys related to sexuality and reproduction. i can't make this shit up!
Holy shit, this is FOXNEWS-esque propaganda.
well, those are actual answers from a survey done by spencer rathus and jeffery nevid, two psychologists who have done a lot of surveys related to sexuality and reproduction. i can't make this shit up!
But you can make a baby.
Haha, I have an appointment with a cardiologist tomorrow (which I just canceled because of an accounting test) to make sure that nothing is wrong with my heart. Your posts in this thread have broken it. :'(Holy shit, this is FOXNEWS-esque propaganda.
well, those are actual answers from a survey done by spencer rathus and jeffery nevid, two psychologists who have done a lot of surveys related to sexuality and reproduction. i can't make this shit up!
But you can make a baby.
this topic actually comes at a funny time because i have a doctor's appointment to switch birth control methods tomorrow.
Someday, Dragona will have my baby.
...I think this means she's just going to get an abortion.
don't player hate, just because i get more ass than you guys!
don't player hate, just because i get more ass than you guys!
Not all of us can be stalkers that travel to other continents to get laid.
don't player hate, just because i get more ass than you guys!
Not all of us can be stalkers that travel to other continents to get laid.
come visit me, cajole :-*
:loldon't player hate, just because i get more ass than you guys!
Not all of us can be stalkers that travel to other continents to get laid.
come visit me, cajole :-*
To travel that far, I need to see a written contract that guarantees I will get the opportunity to put that birth control to the test. :hump
don't player hate, just because i get more ass than you guys!
Not all of us can be stalkers that travel to other continents to get laid.
come visit me, cajole :-*
To travel that far, I need to see a written contract that guarantees I will get the opportunity to put that birth control to the test. :hump
write me in on that contract please. or just tell me that you and I can still hold hands and watch tv. I'll be fine with that. i like holding hands.don't player hate, just because i get more ass than you guys!
Not all of us can be stalkers that travel to other continents to get laid.
come visit me, cajole :-*
To travel that far, I need to see a written contract that guarantees I will get the opportunity to put that birth control to the test. :hump
we might be able to arrange this.
write me in on that contract please. or just tell me that you and I can still hold hands and watch tv. I'll be fine with that. i like holding hands.don't player hate, just because i get more ass than you guys!
Not all of us can be stalkers that travel to other continents to get laid.
come visit me, cajole :-*
To travel that far, I need to see a written contract that guarantees I will get the opportunity to put that birth control to the test. :hump
we might be able to arrange this.
i'm not haggling. we agreed to the hands thing months ago. i'm just making sure it's still good. i'm sexually satisfied by my girlfriend.
She better :(i'm not haggling. we agreed to the hands thing months ago. i'm just making sure it's still good. i'm sexually satisfied by my girlfriend.
I wonder if she feels the same! :P
you have kids for completely selfish reasons -- you're egotistical enough to think that your genetic material is worth passing on and to live vicariously through them when your youth is lost. you want them to succeed where you failed. or you're trying to intellectual justify a primitive need. either wat, it's all utterly selfish.I just completely disagree with that...
my wife and i had a daughter because we were curious and naive -- could we actually raise a kid? that got answered pretty quick -- yes, we can -- and now we have a good 16 years (probably more, if some of you are anything to go by) of utterly decimated free time, additional financial obligations, and a whole new source of pure razor-in-the-guts stress. i love my daughter dearly -- she is super smart and super cute and i see a lot potential in her -- but did we have her out of some sort of enlightened rationale? no, we had her out of ignorance. we're living with the consequences of that ignorance, and refactoring our lives to make sure our selfishness doesn't impede her, but until you've had a child, you'll never know the high cost of that refactoring.
you have kids for completely selfish reasons -- you're egotistical enough to think that your genetic material is worth passing on and to live vicariously through them when your youth is lost. you want them to succeed where you failed. or you're trying to intellectual justify a primitive need. either wat, it's all utterly selfish.
my wife and i had a daughter because we were curious and naive -- could we actually raise a kid? that got answered pretty quick -- yes, we can -- and now we have a good 16 years (probably more, if some of you are anything to go by) of utterly decimated free time, additional financial obligations, and a whole new source of pure razor-in-the-guts stress. i love my daughter dearly -- she is super smart and super cute and i see a lot potential in her -- but did we have her out of some sort of enlightened rationale? no, we had her out of ignorance. we're living with the consequences of that ignorance, and refactoring our lives to make sure our selfishness doesn't impede her, but until you've had a child, you'll never know the high cost of that refactoring.
I'm sure your daughter won't appreciate being called a mistake.
More reason to have a kid, then.
Ok, so about the people who don't want kids:
Where do you think you'll see yourself in 20, 30 years? When you're 50 or 60 or something. Will you still be having the wild lifestyle you're enjoying now? Going out, meeting people? Having unlimited, unprotected, hot steaming SEX? No. So what will you have left? Nothing. Your husband/wife will be old and unattractive, you can't make friends easily. But if you made some babies, you would have these loving people that you would call your son or daughter. And they will nearly always cuddle up to you and say
I love you mommy/daddy :-*
Come the fuck on.
cloud needs the super birth control. :-*
you have kids for completely selfish reasons -- you're egotistical enough to think that your genetic material is worth passing on and to live vicariously through them when your youth is lost. you want them to succeed where you failed. or you're trying to intellectual justify a primitive need. either way, it's all utterly selfish.
my wife and i had a daughter because we were curious and naive -- could we actually raise a kid? that got answered pretty quick -- yes, we can -- and now we have a good 16 years (probably more, if some of you are anything to go by) of utterly decimated free time, additional financial obligations, and a whole new source of pure razor-in-the-guts stress. i love my daughter dearly -- she is super smart and super cute and i see a lot potential in her -- but did we have her out of some sort of enlightened rationale? no, we had her out of ignorance. we're living with the consequences of that ignorance, and refactoring our lives to make sure our selfishness doesn't impede her, but until you've had a child, you'll never know the high cost of that refactoring.
Are there pictures of genitalia on that link? 'Cuz I'm at work...
The IUD doesn't look very comfortable.
Yeah, but you don't leave a tampon in yourself for up to ten years. :/
The IUD doesn't look very comfortable.
neither do tampons, but millions of women use them
looks can be deceiving bacon :-\
how am i gonna get pregnant in 6 years if i get an IUD which can stay inside of me for up to 10 years? you guys are dumb.
It's not fullproof. It says so on that wikipedia page. 0.6% is very high. The chance of getting Asperger Syndrome is only at 0.4%, AND LOOK WHAT HAPPENED TO ME
how am i gonna get pregnant in 6 years if i get an IUD which can stay inside of me for up to 10 years? you guys are dumb.
It's not fullproof. It says so on that wikipedia page. 0.6% is very high. The chance of getting Asperger Syndrome is only at 0.4%, AND LOOK WHAT HAPPENED TO ME
I thought you were losing weight G?
And I want to hear more about how many guys tested out Cloud's pill failure rate :-*
why is it that I hate it when any girl talks about guys shes been with? Its disturbing, and I feel unmanly for feeling like I do. :'(
Maybe I'm just a gentlemen. :tophat
how am i gonna get pregnant in 6 years if i get an IUD which can stay inside of me for up to 10 years? you guys are dumb.
It's not fullproof. It says so on that wikipedia page. 0.6% is very high. The chance of getting Asperger Syndrome is only at 0.4%, AND LOOK WHAT HAPPENED TO ME
0.6 percent is hardly high. i was on the pill with perfect use for ages and it has a higher failure rate. no problems whatsoever.
why is it that I hate it when any girl talks about guys shes been with? Its disturbing, and I feel unmanly for feeling like I do. :'(
Maybe I'm just a gentlemen. :tophat
I only hate hearing about guys a girl I'm going to get with has fucked. Since I'll never have cloud, I have no qualms about hearing about her apparently active sex life. It's a turn on :-*
I want kids one day...but only one. Or maybe two.
I want kids one day...but only one. Or maybe two.
That's why they have sperm banks.I want kids one day...but only one. Or maybe two.
But who will donate. :-*
Whoa your still around. Hey best of luck Dori.
Especially with BBQ sauce.Whoa your still around. Hey best of luck Dori.
I'm actually at a USO in St. Louis. lol
But kids are great, wtf.
Especially with BBQ sauce.
Whoa your still around. Hey best of luck Dori.
I'm actually at a USO in St. Louis. lol
But kids are great, wtf.
Ok, so about the people who don't want kids:
Where do you think you'll see yourself in 20, 30 years? When you're 50 or 60 or something. Will you still be having the wild lifestyle you're enjoying now? Going out, meeting people? Having unlimited, unprotected, hot steaming SEX? No. So what will you have left? Nothing. Your husband/wife will be old and unattractive, you can't make friends easily.
But if you made some babies, you would have these loving people that you would call your son or daughter. And they will nearly always cuddle up to you and say
I love you mommy/daddy :-*
Come the fuck on.
What your kids end up being depends on how you raise them...
Behavioral genetic research is also consistent in indicating that nonshared
rather than shared environmental factors constitute the major source of environmental
influence on behavior. The adoptive sibling correlation provides a
direct estimate of shared environmental influences, and for many psychological
traits this correlation is near zero,
The IQ correlations for the latter
(a direct estimate of the shared environmental contribution to variance) average
only .04 in the four studies of adult samples (Loehlin et al 1997, Scarr &
Weinberg 1978, Scarr et al 1993, Teasdale & Owen 1984).
Bouchard (1994) reported similar
estimates of heritability (average of .41 for these five basic dimensions of
personality) and shared environmental effects (average of .07) in a combined
analysis of MISTRA reared apart twin correlations and correlations on reared
together twins.
Scarr & Weinberg (1981) included a measure of
authoritarianism in an adoption study on the expectation that it would show
little heritability and a large shared environmental influence. Contrary to expectation,
the measure of authoritarianism was substantially heritable,
Genetic influences on measures of religious interests, attitudes, and valueshttp://www.psych.umn.edu/faculty/mcgue/mcgue%20pubs/115%20mcgue%20&%20bouchard%20annual%20review%201998.pdf (http://www.psych.umn.edu/faculty/mcgue/mcgue%20pubs/115%20mcgue%20&%20bouchard%20annual%20review%201998.pdf)
have also been explored. Using data on reared together and reared apart adult
twins, Waller and associates (1990) reported a heritability estimate of .59 for
religious leisure time interests and .41 for religious occupational interests; in
both cases shared environmental influences were not statistically significant
from zero.
Malek, why do you hate freedom?I don't know, but it has nothing to do with how my parents raised me. :D
Malek, why do you hate freedom?I don't know, but it has nothing to do with how my parents raised me. :D
prost, you yourself said you wanted to have a kid so you can "die happy" and "complete". sounds pretty selfish to me!Raising them well is the biggest factor for me. That's what would make me die happy.
kids will never thank you for having them. raising them well? maybe. but that's hardly a factor at the time you choose to have them, eh?
See that's why I'm going to teach my kid that working hard is important, no matter how smart they might be. I don't care as much if they're dumb or genius.. I just want them to work hard.
1) Living on their own, and, given our highly mobile and busy culture, you might talk on the phone with them every week or so and see them two or three times a year at most.
2) They are semi-successful, and live in your hometown because they went to college there and found a job there. You see them quite often.
3) They are failures and are still "finding their way", and you get to deal with them still living in your house after all these years.
If I have children with a woman she'll have to be an extrovert without any personality disorders. Heaven forbid I have a kid that's scared of people like I am.
On the other hand I should be happy if I can get anything at all. :(
I think we should get married at Disney World, Malek.You seem like an introvert.
I think we should get married at Disney World, Malek.You seem like an introvert.
Sorry.
I think we should get married at Disney World, Malek.You seem like an introvert.
Sorry.
I don't have a good imagination.I think we should get married at Disney World, Malek.You seem like an introvert.
Sorry.
Yes, but I figure with kids out of the equation, that req could be tossed, too. Just like I will toss your salad.
Also, if it makes you feel any better, you can pretend I have a uterus.
What about you?I think we should get married at Disney World, Malek.You seem like an introvert.
Sorry.
What about me? :'(
I don't see how not wanting kids is selfish. To make it sound "selfish" you would have to make the definition so broad that the label could apply to just about anything in life. "You go to church? THAT'S SO SELFISH!"
I don't see how not wanting kids is selfish. To make it sound "selfish" you would have to make the definition so broad that the label could apply to just about anything in life. "You go to church? THAT'S SO SELFISH!"
I think it's selfish to limit yourself to just dick, and you should look at the broader picture.
I don't have a good imagination.I think we should get married at Disney World, Malek.You seem like an introvert.
Sorry.
Yes, but I figure with kids out of the equation, that req could be tossed, too. Just like I will toss your salad.
Also, if it makes you feel any better, you can pretend I have a uterus.What about you?I think we should get married at Disney World, Malek.You seem like an introvert.
Sorry.
What about me? :'(
I don't see how not wanting kids is selfish. To make it sound "selfish" you would have to make the definition so broad that the label could apply to just about anything in life. "You go to church? THAT'S SO SELFISH!"
I think it's selfish to limit yourself to just dick, and you should look at the broader picture.
I think it's selfish of you to limit yourself to fat men.
From my experience, fit men tend to reject me... <bitter tears>
Oh yeah, well, at least I didn't fail the uh... test thing.I think people should start taking digs at me for not having sex in three years instead.
Oh yeah, well, at least I didn't fail the uh... test thing.I think people should start taking digs at me for not having sex in three years instead.
Only because I'd get struck down badly. I haven't tried to lift 500 pounds over my head either, and that's because I can't.Oh yeah, well, at least I didn't fail the uh... test thing.I think people should start taking digs at me for not having sex in three years instead.
You haven't even hit on a chick though. It's not like you're trying.