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General => The Superdeep Borehole => Topic started by: TVC15 on April 17, 2007, 05:15:15 PM

Title: The Irrelevant Obama compares the VT massacre to Imus
Post by: TVC15 on April 17, 2007, 05:15:15 PM
http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0407/Obama_on_Virginia_Tech_and_Violence.html

But while Obama mourns the slain students, he takes the massacre more as a theme than as a point of discussion.

"Maybe nothing could have been done to prevent it," he says toward the end.

So he moves quickly to the abstract: Violence, and the general place of violence in American life.

"There's also another kind of violence that we're going to have to think about. It's not necessarily the physical violence, but the violence that we perpetrate on each other in other ways," he said, and goes on to catalogue other forms of "violence."

There's the "verbal violence" of Imus.

There's "the violence of men and women who have worked all their lives and suddenly have the rug pulled out from under them because their job is moved to another country."

There's "the violence of children whose voices are not heard in communities that are ignored,"

And so, Obama says, "there's a lot of different forms of violence in our society, and so much of it is rooted in our incapacity to recognize ourselves in each other."

Many politicians would avoid, I think, about suggesting that outsourcing and mass-murder belong in the same category.

From there, he mourns again the Virginia dead, and then says, "This is an opportunity I think that all of us have today to reflect," and then heads into his stump speech -- education, healthcare, energy policy, politics being broken -- but returning to the Virginia Tech shootings.

Title: Re: The Irrelevant Obama compares the VT massacre to Imus
Post by: The Fake Shemp on April 17, 2007, 05:18:44 PM
Maybe he should talk about the violent assault on my eyes after I had to read Cho Seung-Hui's Mr. Brownstone.
Title: Re: The Irrelevant Obama compares the VT massacre to Imus
Post by: TVC15 on April 17, 2007, 05:19:43 PM
You know his plays will be movies of the week within a month, right?  Probably starring former 7th Heaven cast members.
Title: Re: The Irrelevant Obama compares the VT massacre to Imus
Post by: The Fake Shemp on April 17, 2007, 05:20:49 PM
If I don't get a call back from The Creative Group in an hour, I'm so making a MR. BROWNSTONE movie poster.
Title: Re: The Irrelevant Obama compares the VT massacre to Imus
Post by: TVC15 on April 17, 2007, 05:21:51 PM
Starring AXL ROSE as the title character (or Scott Weiland if Axl is unavailable) and uh, 3 kids from 7th Heaven!
Title: Re: The Irrelevant Obama compares the VT massacre to Imus
Post by: TakingBackSunday on April 17, 2007, 05:25:03 PM
Errr...this is more him making a point that there's evil shit everwhere.  He's not being a Jack Thompson about it.
Title: Re: The Irrelevant Obama compares the VT massacre to Imus
Post by: Van Cruncheon on April 17, 2007, 05:25:10 PM
oh, obama. uncomfortable and forced political segues wound us all.
Title: Re: The Irrelevant Obama compares the VT massacre to Imus
Post by: Phoenix Dark on April 17, 2007, 05:27:49 PM
Obviously that's an interesting point of view that holds a lot of truth, but I don't think mentioning it alongside this story was the greatest political move. Many politicians use moments like this to point out the way we treat our fellow man, and that's fine...but here it seemed like he was trying too hard.

A rare mistake (albiet slightly) on Obama's part with respect to articulation.
Title: Re: The Irrelevant Obama compares the VT massacre to Imus
Post by: TVC15 on April 17, 2007, 05:30:42 PM
IMUS IS THE METAPHORICAL KOREAN KILLING ALL OF OUR BEAUTIFUL NATION'S METAPHORICAL ENGINEERING STUDENTS!
Title: Re: The Irrelevant Obama compares the VT massacre to Imus
Post by: MrAngryFace on April 17, 2007, 05:58:17 PM
WHAT IMUS SAID WUZ STUPID AND IDIOTIC AND MAKES PEOPLE USE GUNS!
Title: Re: The Irrelevant Obama compares the VT massacre to Imus
Post by: Van Cruncheon on April 17, 2007, 06:02:16 PM
there's also the violence phoenix dark does to investigatory thought, said obama. and the violence he does to the body of cinema criticism. there's the violence done to good evilboreans by contrarian idiots absent all cogent arguments. we are not so far from this virginia campus, my friends; there is a little phoenix dark in all of us.
Title: Re: The Irrelevant Obama compares the VT massacre to Imus
Post by: The Fake Shemp on April 17, 2007, 06:03:05 PM
there's also the violence phoenix dark does to investigatory thought, said obama. and the violence he does to the body of cinema criticism. there's the violence done to good evilboreans by contrarian idiots absent all cogent arguments. we are not so far from this virginia campus, my friends; there is a little phoenix dark in all of us.

 :lol
Title: Re: The Irrelevant Obama compares the VT massacre to Imus
Post by: TVC15 on April 17, 2007, 06:06:08 PM
A little KOREAN phoenix dark!
Title: Re: The Irrelevant Obama compares the VT massacre to Imus
Post by: Flannel Boy on April 17, 2007, 06:10:00 PM
Is this PhoenixDark day at Evilbore?
Title: Re: The Irrelevant Obama compares the VT massacre to Imus
Post by: Cheebs on April 17, 2007, 06:10:13 PM
Is this PhoenixDark day at Evilbore?
isn't it always?
Title: Re: The Irrelevant Obama compares the VT massacre to Imus
Post by: TVC15 on April 17, 2007, 06:10:41 PM
Is this PhoenixDark day at Evilbore?

You mean "Is this PhoenixDark Day at KoreanBore?"
Title: Re: The Irrelevant Obama compares the VT massacre to Imus
Post by: Van Cruncheon on April 17, 2007, 06:14:59 PM
it's always phoenix dark day. the line between effective stupidity and effective trolling is a thin and very red one, but he treads it just so

wait

no

he's clearly on the side of stupidity. good trolling has a point that makes the biters react with obvious dissonance. stupidity can't successfully interpret eastwood's unforgiven.

:gloomy
Title: Re: The Irrelevant Obama compares the VT massacre to Imus
Post by: Phoenix Dark on April 17, 2007, 06:21:20 PM
Mere stupidity is not worth the constant threads and posts that go towards silencing me. No good sir, this is good trolling. I have succeeded in disgusting people so much that they must combat me at every turn. The sheer idea of agreeing with me on any issue must make you all depressed, sick, and homicidal
Title: Re: The Irrelevant Obama compares the VT massacre to Imus
Post by: Van Cruncheon on April 17, 2007, 06:22:58 PM
Mere stupidity is not worth the constant threads and posts that go towards silencing me.

makaveli, the dark shake, catalyst and the black stallion all disagree
Title: Re: The Irrelevant Obama compares the VT massacre to Imus
Post by: The Fake Shemp on April 17, 2007, 06:23:58 PM
Oh, he's not that bad.
Title: Re: The Irrelevant Obama compares the VT massacre to Imus
Post by: Phoenix Dark on April 17, 2007, 06:24:23 PM
You must admit that I am far more impressive than all of them - except for Stallion. My penis became hard with disgust whenever I read his shit
Title: Re: The Irrelevant Obama compares the VT massacre to Imus
Post by: demi on April 17, 2007, 06:25:36 PM
You must admit that I am far more impressive than all of them - except for Stallion. My penis became hard with disgust whenever I read his shit

Typical african american behavior.
Title: Re: The Irrelevant Obama compares the VT massacre to Imus
Post by: Van Cruncheon on April 17, 2007, 06:26:05 PM
catalyst tyrannized oa with his hillbilly breed of dumb far more than you've tortured us, pd. you're just a couple of white kids playing doom when compared to his methodical, super-efficient counterstrike-trained korean troll ass.
Title: Re: The Irrelevant Obama compares the VT massacre to Imus
Post by: Phoenix Dark on April 17, 2007, 06:28:21 PM
It's a shame I wasn't on OA to see his reign of terror
Title: Re: The Irrelevant Obama compares the VT massacre to Imus
Post by: demi on April 17, 2007, 06:40:20 PM
Reign of terror isn't really the phrase I'd use
Title: Re: The Irrelevant Obama compares the VT massacre to Imus
Post by: Van Cruncheon on April 17, 2007, 06:42:25 PM
reign of HYUCK
reign of acne
Title: Re: The Irrelevant Obama compares the VT massacre to Imus
Post by: Scurvy Stan on April 17, 2007, 07:09:31 PM
There should a required week ban on all spin pitched in lieu of national tragedies by talking heads on TV. It's really getting disgusting.
Title: Re: The Irrelevant Obama compares the VT massacre to Imus
Post by: captainbiotch on April 17, 2007, 07:20:27 PM
Jesus Christ, that is some fuckin' commie propaganda if I've ever seen any.
Title: Re: The Irrelevant Obama compares the VT massacre to Imus
Post by: The Fake Shemp on April 17, 2007, 07:23:24 PM
There should a required week ban on all spin pitched in lieu of national tragedies by talking heads on TV. It's really getting disgusting.

We'd never hear the Bush administration speak again... ever.
Title: Re: The Irrelevant Obama compares the VT massacre to Imus
Post by: APF on April 17, 2007, 08:01:34 PM
Spinning national tragedy into talking points from your standardized stump-speech?  Now that's what I call a new kind of politics!
Title: Re: The Irrelevant Obama compares the VT massacre to Imus
Post by: TVC15 on April 17, 2007, 08:04:09 PM
I understand the point Obama was trying to make, but that doesn't lessen the fact that using a tragedy like this makes the whole thing feel cheap, especially when Imus is mentioned, too.  I bet he was one drink away from writing Anna Nicole Smith into the speech, too.
Title: Re: The Irrelevant Obama compares the VT massacre to Imus
Post by: Phoenix Dark on April 17, 2007, 08:07:59 PM
Spinning national tragedy into talking points from your standardized stump-speech?  Now that's what I call a new kind of politics!

Ban guns lol
Title: Re: The Irrelevant Obama compares the VT massacre to Imus
Post by: xnikki118x on April 18, 2007, 02:29:20 AM
Starring AXL ROSE as the title character (or Scott Weiland if Axl is unavailable) and uh, 3 kids from 7th Heaven!

lulz