white pople :D:wstupid
Hip-hop isn't dead.
Record execs and dumbass ignorant "rappers" like Cam'ron.
white pople :D:wstupid
Gee Himuro, blanket statements are so awesome!
going back to the topic i do think that white suburbia killed mainstream hip hop in the u.s.
going back to the topic i do think that white suburbia killed mainstream hip hop in the u.s.
white pople :D:wstupid
oh you called somebody who made a typo stupid (i must admit posting on message boards while you are trying to work and when you got million other things to do is not working for me so i'll excuse myself and just go back to lurking like i usually do) you must be feeling so cool now i guess taun. how cool is tauntaun? super witty cool ::)
going back to the topic i do think that white suburbia killed mainstream hip hop in the u.s.
Himuro have you ever been to a hip-hop show in your life?
No, but I'm not talking about the enthusiasts who like good music, I'm talking about Mr. Joe Scmoe, the everyday cunt who listens to horrible music. Talk to any rap fan my age and you'll see that they're dolts and have the attention span of a squirrel.
Record execs and dumbass ignorant "rappers" like Cam'ron.
The fans are just as much to blame as them. Hip hop fans are stupid.
No, but I'm not talking about the enthusiasts who like good music, I'm talking about Mr. Joe Scmoe, the everyday cunt who listens to horrible music. Talk to any rap fan my age and you'll see that they're dolts and have the attention span of a squirrel.
You're painting with too broad a stroke to be taken seriously, duder.
No, but I'm not talking about the enthusiasts who like good music, I'm talking about Mr. Joe Scmoe, the everyday cunt who listens to horrible music. Talk to any rap fan my age and you'll see that they're dolts and have the attention span of a squirrel.
You're painting with too broad a stroke to be taken seriously, duder.
No I am really not.
And it's not just white execs: black execs are the ones dictating what's played on BET and who gets signed now. The white execs for the most part write the checks, although some like Jimmy Iovine do much more. But even Jimmy doesn't have much control over his bigger artists. Before the Marshal Mathers LP came out Jimmy had Em go back in the studio and create a better single (The Real Slim Shady). Do you think he could tell Em to get his shit together now? Same with 50. They're the ones signing artists now
alsoAnd it's not just white execs: black execs are the ones dictating what's played on BET and who gets signed now. The white execs for the most part write the checks, although some like Jimmy Iovine do much more. But even Jimmy doesn't have much control over his bigger artists. Before the Marshal Mathers LP came out Jimmy had Em go back in the studio and create a better single (The Real Slim Shady). Do you think he could tell Em to get his shit together now? Same with 50. They're the ones signing artists now
Naw dude. BET only sold out when Viacom bought them. I don't think there's a coincidence, but yeah you're right.
I think Phoenix Dark killed hip-hop.
Himuro have you ever been to a hip-hop show in your life?going back to the topic i do think that white suburbia killed mainstream hip hop in the u.s.
i disagree.
It's a bigger market, of course it had an effect. I wouldn't put all the blame on them though. Last time I checked white kids are supporting real hip hop far more than black kids. Ever seen Roots/Mos Def/etc concert? Filled with white people.
they(white suburbia) turned a semi-underground genre of music into multi billion dollar mainstream commercialism fest. i'm not denying that there are still some amazing hip hop artists out there or the fact that this commercial hip hop empire has many positive effects on the scene and on the communities. i'm just saying that as a music aficionado, i'm not feeling the spirit of hip hop that i fell in love with during 85-95 era anymore and i believe this all started when white kids from suburbs started to pour their money into label execs' pockets.
ANDERSON COOPER: If your record label said to you, "Look, we're not going to promote you, we're not going to distribute you, if you keep calling Curtis Jackson a snitch, or [if] you keep writing about guns and selling drugs," would you stop?
CAM'RON: No record company in the world would say, "We're not going to promote you if you call somebody a snitch." They know what makes money. A record company would never be that stupid. Never.
Also, if Himuro wants to just ask PD who killed hip-hop, maybe this should've been better kept to PMs, instead of me pouring out my heart about something I actually do care about
Also, if Himuro wants to just ask PD who killed hip-hop, maybe this should've been better kept to PMs, instead of me pouring out my heart about something I actually do care about
It's a bigger market, of course it had an effect. I wouldn't put all the blame on them though. Last time I checked white kids are supporting real hip hop far more than black kids. Ever seen a Roots/Mos Def/etc concert? Filled with white people.
It's a bigger market, of course it had an effect. I wouldn't put all the blame on them though. Last time I checked white kids are supporting real hip hop far more than black kids. Ever seen a Roots/Mos Def/etc concert? Filled with white people.
well yeah but that is just one side of the story, what about those kids that made 50cents game a million seller? what about millions and millions of kids who don't know shit about music but are ready to consume what ever mtv's execs feeding them because they wanna be a part of this "urban/cool/badass/trendy" lifestyle that is called hip-hop nowadays? just compare how many albums roots have sold lately and how many "videogames" 50cent sold, you'll se what i mean. also i don't have nothing against white suburbanites or anything, i just feel like when massess of white young suburbia (excluding white suburban music enthusiasts) got into hip hop is also the point in time that mainstream hip hop started to sound more and more like pop music.
It's a bigger market, of course it had an effect. I wouldn't put all the blame on them though. Last time I checked white kids are supporting real hip hop far more than black kids. Ever seen a Roots/Mos Def/etc concert? Filled with white people.
well yeah but that is just one side of the story, what about those kids that made 50cents game a million seller? what about millions and millions of kids who don't know shit about music but are ready to consume what ever mtv's execs feeding them because they wanna be a part of this "urban/cool/badass/trendy" lifestyle that is called hip-hop nowadays? just compare how many albums roots have sold lately and how many "videogames" 50cent sold, you'll se what i mean. also i don't have nothing against white suburbanites or anything, i just feel like when massess of white young suburbia (excluding white suburban music enthusiasts) got into hip hop is also the point in time that mainstream hip hop started to sound more and more like pop music.
You think all of the people who made the 50 Cent game a million seller are white? Sorry to tell you this, but the truth is that most of them people are black. My cousin and all of his friends have that game. The whole gangster image affects the black kids way more so than the white ones because it makes them think that's the way they're supposed to act, and if they don't, they aren't black.
The black people perpetuate this stereotype WAY more than the white ones. A wigger is rare, while a good majority of black youth act that way.
I dont get why white suburban kids relate to hip hop, the music doesnt even come from their type of environment.
Yes, but just because you're white and like rap doesn't make you a wigger. Corny's a big fan and he's certainly no wigger.
I dont get why white suburban kids relate to hip hop, the music doesnt even come from their type of environment.
sure it does. get picked on in school, feel better about yourself by pumping "Fuck the Police". and believe me, the type of hip-hop *I* listen to, I can relate to. People Under the Stairs songs usually consist of references to getting drunk, getting stoned and playing videogames. I know what they mean!
hahahahaha, that all depends on who you ask
I dont get why white suburban kids relate to hip hop, the music doesnt even come from their type of environment.
These types of white kids wind up actually forming their understandings of black cuture off of what they see in the rap culture, and that's definitely not a good thing
It's a bigger market, of course it had an effect. I wouldn't put all the blame on them though. Last time I checked white kids are supporting real hip hop far more than black kids. Ever seen a Roots/Mos Def/etc concert? Filled with white people.
I dont get why white suburban kids relate to hip hop, the music doesnt even come from their type of environment.
I dont get why white suburban kids relate to hip hop, the music doesnt even come from their type of environment.to be fair, most black people don't live in that type of environment either.
Crunk started because Lil' Jon liked the house and trance he heard at strip clubs, and wanted to mold those sounds to a hiphop structure, hence the snappy 808 snares and 303s you hear in his productions.
Funky jazz stuff, basically. The songs that your favorite hip-hoppers sampled.
Speaking of crunk, what do you think of DJ Shadow's latest? Talk about pissing on ones' fanbase.
[youtube=425,350]8f4la3t1Uok[/youtube]Funky jazz stuff, basically. The songs that your favorite hip-hoppers sampled.
Got any suggestions from this genre?
I still haven't bothered checking it out since you told me it sucks.
I dunno, I cant find anything to relate to in hip hop.
I dunno, I cant find anything to relate to in hip hop.
I dont like games that much! Its a hobby! Listening to game inspired music makes me groan.
Are there songs about drinking lots of scotch?
I dunno, I cant find anything to relate to in hip hop.
What category would your typical pop music fall under?Is pop even a musical genre? All it means is popular, so you can have pop music which is rock, rap, easy listening, etc.
What category would your typical pop music fall under?dunno.
This was obtained (not by me) using the General Social Survey with a vocabulary test which is highly g-loaded.
Musical taste and Mean IQs--whites
Opera 108.2
Classical 108.2
New Age 107.5
Jazz 107.2
Showtunes 107.0
Blues 106.3
Big Band 105.2
Folk 104.6
Latin 103.3
Oldies 102.3
Contemporary Rock 101.1
Easy Listening 100.2
Reggae 99.7
Heavy Metal 98.5
Bluegrass 98.1
Country 97.1
Gospel 96.0
Rap 93.5
But it would probably rank right above rap on the IQ list because at least no pop fan is deluding himself into thinking that his crappy music is "art".
you didn't notice the "lol" in spoilers? I'm a rap fan :btw if you haven't noticed me chime in in most rap threads.But it would probably rank right above rap on the IQ list because at least no pop fan is deluding himself into thinking that his crappy music is "art".
*sigh*
This was obtained (not by me) using the General Social Survey with a vocabulary test which is highly g-loaded.
Musical taste and Mean IQs--whites
Opera 108.2
Classical 108.2
New Age 107.5
Jazz 107.2
Showtunes 107.0
Blues 106.3
Big Band 105.2
Folk 104.6
Latin 103.3
Oldies 102.3
Contemporary Rock 101.1
Easy Listening 100.2
Reggae 99.7
Heavy Metal 98.5
Bluegrass 98.1
Country 97.1
Gospel 96.0
Rap 93.5
you didn't notice the "lol" in spoilers? I'm a rap fan :btw if you haven't noticed me chime in in most rap threads.
Also Malek that isn't credible when you consider rap most rap fans are much younger than opera and classical music aficionadosThe vast majority of respondents are over the age of 19 (97 or 98%). Most of those under 19 are over 15 (when age no longer factors in determining IQ scores).