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General => The Superdeep Borehole => Topic started by: brawndolicious on April 25, 2007, 04:10:30 AM

Title: Giuliani says 9/11 will happen again if Dems win.
Post by: brawndolicious on April 25, 2007, 04:10:30 AM: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0407/3684.html

How anybody can support this douchebag I don't know, hopefully he won't be nominated so the campaign ads aren't as embarassing.
Title: Re: Giuliani says 9/11 will happen again if Dems win.
Post by: Candyflip on April 25, 2007, 07:24:32 AM: :lol He mirrors Bush way too much in that regard. "We must stop the terrorists. They're a threat to our country. Blah blah blah"
Title: Re: Giuliani says 9/11 will happen again if Dems win.
Post by: Cheebs on April 25, 2007, 08:33:15 AM: Thats the scary thing of Rudy. He may be a social moderate but his stances on the patriot act/the iraq war/terrorism are far far far more conservative than even John McCain or Bush
Title: Re: Giuliani says 9/11 will happen again if Dems win.
Post by: Tauntaun on April 25, 2007, 10:05:08 AM: Don't you know that all elections are between a douche and a turd sandwich?

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Title: Re: Giuliani says 9/11 will happen again if Dems win.
Post by: Cheebs on April 25, 2007, 10:28:53 AM: Quote from: Tauntaun on April 25, 2007, 10:05:08 AM
Don't you know that all elections are between a douche and a turd sandwich?

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meh. If its hillary vs. rudy I'd take hillary. Rudy's neoconish tendencies of a Dick Cheney level scare the hell out of me. It will be Richard Nixon all over again, enjoyable to watch but scary.
Title: Re: Giuliani says 9/11 will happen again if Dems win.
Post by: Mandark on April 25, 2007, 10:29:05 AM: There's nothing really wrong with bringing up 9/11, per se. "There's a better chance of an attack if you elect the other guy" is just an inversion of "You'll be safer with me." Everyone who's campaigning will claim they have the best, safest national security policy.

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“They were at war with us before we realized it, going back to ’90s with all the Americans killed by the PLO and Hezbollah and Hamas,” he said. “They came here and killed us in 1993 [with the first attack on New York’s World Trade Center, in which six people died], and we didn’t get it. We didn’t get it that this was a war. Then Sept. 11, 2001, happened, and we got it.”

That's the scary part, for me. Hello, perpetual state of war against a vaguely defined enemy!
Title: Re: Giuliani says 9/11 will happen again if Dems win.
Post by: MrAngryFace on April 25, 2007, 10:43:43 AM: WORLD WILL MELT AND DIE IF PUBS WIN!

I would also take Crazy batshit hillary over WAR WAR OMG TERROR Rudy.
Title: Re: Giuliani says 9/11 will happen again if Dems win.
Post by: Cheebs on April 25, 2007, 10:46:41 AM: Quote from: MrAngryFace on April 25, 2007, 10:43:43 AM
WORLD WILL MELT AND DIE IF PUBS WIN!

I would also take Crazy batshit hillary over WAR WAR OMG TERROR Rudy.
Yes sir. Hillary is insane and I just don't like her in my gut but Rudy...ugh

Another 4 years of 9/11 9/11 TERROR 9/11 9/11 TERROR 9/11 9/11 TERROR TERROR TERROR 9/11 9/11 TERROR 9/11 9/11 TERROR 9/11 9/11 9/11 TERROR will make me go insane
Title: Re: Giuliani says 9/11 will happen again if Dems win.
Post by: Cheebs on April 25, 2007, 10:52:35 AM: Obama's response to Rudy's speech:
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"Rudy Giuliani today has taken the politics of fear to a new low and I believe Americans are ready to reject those kind of politics. America’s mayor should know that when it comes to 9/11 and fighting terrorists, America is united. We know we can win this war based on shared purpose, not the same divisive politics that question your patriotism if you dare to question failed policies that have made us less secure. I think we should focus on strengthening our intelligence, working with local authorities and doing all the things we haven't yet done to keep Americans safe. The threat we face is real, and deserves better than to be the punchline of another political attack."
(http://www.mensvogue.com/images/business/2006/08/21/buar01_obama.jpg)
Title: Re: Giuliani says 9/11 will happen again if Dems win.
Post by: MrAngryFace on April 25, 2007, 10:57:05 AM: I dont like it when politicians try to manipulate the emotions I dont like.
Title: Re: Giuliani says 9/11 will happen again if Dems win.
Post by: Mandark on April 25, 2007, 11:03:35 AM: Quote from: MrAngryFace on April 25, 2007, 10:57:05 AM
I dont like it when politicians try to manipulate the emotions I dont like.

*Obligatory and lame MrAngryFace joke*
Title: Re: Giuliani says 9/11 will happen again if Dems win.
Post by: Tauntaun on April 25, 2007, 12:39:30 PM: Quote from: Cheebs on April 25, 2007, 10:52:35 AM
Obama's response to Rudy's speech:
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"Rudy Giuliani today has taken the politics of fear to a new low and I believe Americans are ready to reject those kind of politics. America’s mayor should know that when it comes to 9/11 and fighting terrorists, America is united. We know we can win this war based on shared purpose, not the same divisive politics that question your patriotism if you dare to question failed policies that have made us less secure. I think we should focus on strengthening our intelligence, working with local authorities and doing all the things we haven't yet done to keep Americans safe. The threat we face is real, and deserves better than to be the punchline of another political attack."
*obama pic*

he is sort of magical though in that pic, u know? :-*
Title: Re: Giuliani says 9/11 will happen again if Dems win.
Post by: Cheebs on April 25, 2007, 12:41:15 PM: Quote from: Tauntaun on April 25, 2007, 12:39:30 PM
Quote from: Cheebs on April 25, 2007, 10:52:35 AM
Obama's response to Rudy's speech:
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"Rudy Giuliani today has taken the politics of fear to a new low and I believe Americans are ready to reject those kind of politics. America’s mayor should know that when it comes to 9/11 and fighting terrorists, America is united. We know we can win this war based on shared purpose, not the same divisive politics that question your patriotism if you dare to question failed policies that have made us less secure. I think we should focus on strengthening our intelligence, working with local authorities and doing all the things we haven't yet done to keep Americans safe. The threat we face is real, and deserves better than to be the punchline of another political attack."
*obama pic*

he is sort of magical though in that pic, u know? :-*
the magic negro?
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Title: Re: Giuliani says 9/11 will happen again if Dems win.
Post by: Trent Dole on April 25, 2007, 12:44:32 PM: Hussein Osama is so the next prez. :pimp
Title: Re: Giuliani says 9/11 will happen again if Dems win.
Post by: Van Cruncheon on April 25, 2007, 01:00:55 PM: (http://www.gaming-age.com/specials/xavier/7.jpg)
Title: Re: Giuliani says 9/11 will happen again if Dems win.
Post by: PhoenixWright on April 25, 2007, 01:06:22 PM: because Republicans prevented it before... Oh wait.
Title: Re: Giuliani says 9/11 will happen again if Dems win.
Post by: Van Cruncheon on April 25, 2007, 01:21:11 PM: ah, but they invaded iraq so they know how to punish the middle east for having the blanket religion that the extreme fanatical minority that sponsored and endorsed 9/11 emerged from, and that sure taught 'em good AM I RITE, now everyone over in the middle east says OMG AMERICA SO AWESOME SO SCARY LET'S NEVER BE TERRORISTS AGAIN

uh

WHY DO YOU HATE THE TROOPS AND/OR FREEDOM

in the distance, phoenixdark pipes up "supporting the troops isn't bringing them home! it's letting them get shot at on an unwinnable battleground you myopic randi rhodes worshipping jerks! if we leave, we hate the troops because we're telling them that, uh, er, uh, well, it's, uh, not that we want them to keep getting killed for no reason, but, er, um, but that they fight for a country led by assholes, er, that's not right, help me out here glenn reynolds"
Title: Re: Giuliani says 9/11 will happen again if Dems win.
Post by: Beezy on April 25, 2007, 01:28:05 PM: Quote from: Tauntaun on April 25, 2007, 12:39:30 PM
he is sort of magical though in that pic, u know? :-*
:lol
Title: Re: Giuliani says 9/11 will happen again if Dems win.
Post by: brawndolicious on April 25, 2007, 09:57:30 PM: Seriously, I don't think america is embarassed by raghead attacks anymore (get-the-fuck-out-of-iraq sentiment) to elect the stereotypical choice. I doubt he'll even get nominated.
Title: Re: Giuliani says 9/11 will happen again if Dems win.
Post by: Phoenix Dark on April 25, 2007, 10:33:15 PM: Quote from: Tauntaun on April 25, 2007, 12:39:30 PM
Quote from: Cheebs on April 25, 2007, 10:52:35 AM
Obama's response to Rudy's speech:
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"Rudy Giuliani today has taken the politics of fear to a new low and I believe Americans are ready to reject those kind of politics. America’s mayor should know that when it comes to 9/11 and fighting terrorists, America is united. We know we can win this war based on shared purpose, not the same divisive politics that question your patriotism if you dare to question failed policies that have made us less secure. I think we should focus on strengthening our intelligence, working with local authorities and doing all the things we haven't yet done to keep Americans safe. The threat we face is real, and deserves better than to be the punchline of another political attack."
*obama pic*

he is sort of magical though in that pic, u know? :-*

Well, he is the magical negro
Title: Re: Giuliani says 9/11 will happen again if Dems win.
Post by: Scurvy Stan on April 25, 2007, 10:56:03 PM: They all suck.
Title: Re: Giuliani says 9/11 will happen again if Dems win.
Post by: Bloodwake on April 26, 2007, 10:33:46 AM: My vote's with Obama.

Giuliani just makes me shake my head with sadness.
Title: Re: Giuliani says 9/11 will happen again if Dems win.
Post by: Phoenix Dark on April 26, 2007, 01:16:32 PM: None of the candidates impress me to be honest. Obama is the only one that strikes me as "real" so to speak, but of course he's directly cut out of the "talk big, do nothing" cloth of previous charasmatic Democrats. Maybe he'll proove me wrong - I can't wait for the debate omg.

McCain is trying far to hard to appeal to traditional conservatives while also appealing to the faar right, when in reality both groups hate him.

Guliani is also caught in a dilemma as he wants to cover up his liberal social record with hardline warhawk positions that went out of style a couple years ago

Hillary has never been herself, as we all know

Despite controversies (Coulter's comments) and personal tragedies (his wife's cancer) that helped his campaign, Edwards has no traction - and his shift to the left isn't very believable.
Title: Re: Giuliani says 9/11 will happen again if Dems win.
Post by: Cheebs on April 26, 2007, 01:18:26 PM: Edwards just plain cant find a place in polls. My gut reaction is anti-Hillary democrats are trying to rally around Obama(of course his charm and speaking ability...etc helps) purely to stop her.

He surfaced at the right time with the right amount of newness for the anti-Hillary dem's to jump aboard.
Title: Re: Giuliani says 9/11 will happen again if Dems win.
Post by: Phoenix Dark on April 26, 2007, 01:29:10 PM: Obama is also seen as more electable compared to Edwards (in the eyes of anti-Hillary dems). I think many dems might still be upset with the 2004 election, and it's hard for them to put their trust in Edwards now. That campaign was very poorly run, and while it's certainly not Edwards fault he's the fall guy because of his involvment in the 2008 elections now.

In the end Obama seems to be the man who came out of nowhere and (possibly) ruined the status quo for the dems. This was supposed to be Hillary's year. Right after November 2004 every pundit agreed that Hillary was in the best position for the 2008 race, and her path was reletively clear. Obama was a factor, but at that time no one thought he was going to run; I remember people billing him as a 2012 shoe in.

Now Hillary actually has to work for the nomination. Many reports from within her inner circle throughout the years have painted her as a very brooding, manipulative person with a horrible temper - she must be fuming about Obama right now. I just wonder if we'll get to see even a glimpse of it during the debates, where Obama is going to truly shine. At the end of the day even Hillary supporters aren't going to be able to say she was victorious in the debate. Obama is out of her league, period.
Title: Re: Giuliani says 9/11 will happen again if Dems win.
Post by: Cheebs on April 26, 2007, 01:33:06 PM: It also helps Obama that on election day in primaries democrats tend rebel against the front runner.

Howard Dean was leading in the polls when he shockingly lost Iowa(and this was pre-scream) remember.