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Title: Spiderman 3 or Pirates 3 which will be the better film?
Post by: Christopher on April 29, 2007, 09:11:08 PM
Film snobes go away - I'm actually excited to see both.  :-*
Title: Re: Spiderman 3 or Pirates 3 which will be the better film?
Post by: HyperZoneWasAwesome on April 29, 2007, 09:12:56 PM
Spider-Man 3 in a walk.

first Pirates sucked and felt like it was four hours long.  Not even the presence of Chow Yun-Fat could make the third one any good.
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Post by: The Miles Trahan Burger Experiment on April 29, 2007, 09:13:59 PM
S-M 3, just cuz I'm not a big fan of the Pirates films.
Title: Re: Spiderman 3 or Pirates 3 which will be the better film?
Post by: Christopher on April 29, 2007, 09:15:31 PM
Why the pirates hate guys?  Great popcorn flicks...
Title: Re: Spiderman 3 or Pirates 3 which will be the better film?
Post by: Vizzys on April 29, 2007, 09:19:00 PM
Spiderman 3 is distributed by sony pictures so you would probably enjoy it more.

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Title: Re: Spiderman 3 or Pirates 3 which will be the better film?
Post by: The Miles Trahan Burger Experiment on April 29, 2007, 09:19:12 PM
Why the pirates hate guys?  Great popcorn flicks...

Yes, they are. But they don't do much for me other than being something fun to kill two (three?) hours with.
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Post by: Melissa on April 29, 2007, 09:19:45 PM
SPIDER-MAN 3!  Support all Sony / Columbia / Tri-Star releases!

Besides, Pirates 2 was a snoozefest.
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Post by: Van Cruncheon on April 29, 2007, 09:21:29 PM
i'll probably enjoy pirates 3 more, but neither is a movie i'd see unless my company was paying for my ticket
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Post by: Madrun Badrun on April 29, 2007, 09:22:25 PM
Love pirates. 
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Post by: BobbyRobby on April 29, 2007, 09:23:20 PM
Probably Spider-Man 3
Title: Re: Spiderman 3 or Pirates 3 which will be the better film?
Post by: Powerslave on April 29, 2007, 09:33:39 PM
BOTH ARE GAY
Title: Re: Spiderman 3 or Pirates 3 which will be the better film?
Post by: TVC15 on April 29, 2007, 09:34:32 PM
Keith Richards is only in one of these movies.
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Post by: HyperZoneWasAwesome on April 29, 2007, 09:36:43 PM
Keith Richards is only in one of these movies.
is it the same one Orlando Bloom is in?
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Post by: TVC15 on April 29, 2007, 09:37:44 PM
Keith Richards is only in one of these movies.
is it the same one Orlando Bloom is in?

Yes, but as usual, you can barely tell Orlando Bloom is ever there.
Title: Re: Spiderman 3 or Pirates 3 which will be the better film?
Post by: Human Snorenado on April 29, 2007, 09:39:37 PM
This isn't even close.  Pirates 3 ftw.
Title: Re: Spiderman 3 or Pirates 3 which will be the better film?
Post by: Van Cruncheon on April 29, 2007, 09:42:35 PM
also gore verbinski >>> sam raimi
Title: Re: Spiderman 3 or Pirates 3 which will be the better film?
Post by: Phoenix Dark on April 29, 2007, 11:10:46 PM
POTC3>>>>>>>>>>Spiderman 3

At least with respect to my anticipation level
Title: Re: Spiderman 3 or Pirates 3 which will be the better film?
Post by: G The Resurrected on April 29, 2007, 11:18:05 PM
Keith Richards is only in one of these movies.

This is the right answer.
Title: Re: Spiderman 3 or Pirates 3 which will be the better film?
Post by: FlameOfCallandor on April 29, 2007, 11:19:14 PM
Pirates has pirates, thus it will be a better film.
Title: Re: Spiderman 3 or Pirates 3 which will be the better film?
Post by: Mupepe on April 30, 2007, 12:05:24 AM
SPIDER-MAN 3!  Support all Sony / Columbia / Tri-Star releases!

Besides, Pirates 2 was a snoozefest.
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Post by: Ichirou on April 30, 2007, 12:07:12 AM
I'm going to watch and enjoy both.  So there.
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Post by: Mupepe on April 30, 2007, 12:08:51 AM
It was impossible for me to enjoy Pirates 2, so I probably can't enjoy Pirates 3
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Post by: brandonh83 on April 30, 2007, 12:14:23 AM
Both are going to kick ass... I'm honestly hyped about them equally. I couldn't pick. Loved Spider-man 2, loved Dead Man's Chest... great entertainment. I've yet to be let down by any Spider-man or Pirates movie. I thought Dead Man's Chest improved on the first in every possible way, same with Spider-man 2.
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Post by: brawndolicious on April 30, 2007, 01:15:14 AM
who gives a fucking shit?  both had really shitty prequels.  if you were happy the shittiness was going to end I could see that but you're asking which one is the better film, not worse film which implies you think it's good.
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Post by: xnikki118x on April 30, 2007, 01:23:58 AM
I'm saying Spidey 3 because I've seen the first two, and I haven't seen either Pirates movie.
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Post by: Solo on April 30, 2007, 06:11:43 AM
Ill get some enjoyment out of both, but lets be honest: S-M3.
POTC2 was a FUN theatre experience, but revisiting the film on DVD, its an almost unwatchable piece of bloat that runs on an hour too long. S-M2 has stood up very well, and is still a very good film.
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Post by: Human Snorenado on April 30, 2007, 06:38:36 AM
Ill get some enjoyment out of both, but lets be honest: S-M3.
POTC2 was a FUN theatre experience, but revisiting the film on DVD, its an almost unwatchable piece of bloat that runs on an hour too long. S-M2 has stood up very well, and is still a very good film.

Yeah, but that has nothing to do with the almost assured train wreck that will be Spider hyphen Man 3.  I mean, Christ it looks terrible.

Plus PotC3 has Keith.  Come on now!
Title: Re: Spiderman 3 or Pirates 3 which will be the better film?
Post by: Solo on April 30, 2007, 06:45:01 AM
Im not basing my judgement on S-M3 as much as I am POTC3, which is set to run on EVEN longer than POTC2, and no doubt just as uselessly.
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Post by: captainbiotch on April 30, 2007, 07:20:57 AM
i'll probably enjoy pirates 3 more, but neither is a movie i'd see unless my company was paying for my ticket
Title: Re: Spiderman 3 or Pirates 3 which will be the better film?
Post by: Cheebs on April 30, 2007, 09:06:26 AM
Keith Richards as Jack Sparrow Sr. is the only thing I am excited about for Pirates 3.


Apparently Disney won't let him as part of any of the press of the movie, since he doesn't represent Disney "values" well enough.  :lol
Title: Re: Spiderman 3 or Pirates 3 which will be the better film?
Post by: whiteACID on April 30, 2007, 10:28:27 AM
I'm more excited to see Pirates this summer than spiders, ick
Title: Re: Spiderman 3 or Pirates 3 which will be the better film?
Post by: Cheebs on April 30, 2007, 10:57:41 AM
I'm more excited to see Pirates this summer than spiders, ick
there are no spiders in spider-man 3 lol
Title: Re: Spiderman 3 or Pirates 3 which will be the better film?
Post by: Bloodwake on April 30, 2007, 10:59:40 AM
Ill get some enjoyment out of both, but lets be honest: S-M3.
POTC2 was a FUN theatre experience, but revisiting the film on DVD, its an almost unwatchable piece of bloat that runs on an hour too long. S-M2 has stood up very well, and is still a very good film.

I won't go to the degree you have on POTC2, but yeah, I was feeling the same thing whenever I revisited POTC2: it just wasn't as good on the second showing out of the theatre. S-M3 all the way.

I'm looking forward to both with equal hype at this moment though.
Title: Re: Spiderman 3 or Pirates 3 which will be the better film?
Post by: whiteACID on April 30, 2007, 11:01:04 AM
really?
Title: Re: Spiderman 3 or Pirates 3 which will be the better film?
Post by: Cheebs on April 30, 2007, 11:02:18 AM
really?
have you seen any spider-man movies? There is a spider in one scene of spider-man 1 and thats it. Spider-Man has nothing  do with spiders after his origin.
Title: Re: Spiderman 3 or Pirates 3 which will be the better film?
Post by: MrAngryFace on April 30, 2007, 11:03:06 AM
SPIDERMAN is the SNOOZEFEST. Jesus christ the emo shit the 'character development' the too short fight scenes....

At LEAST PotC2 had some interesting action sequences. I do agree it runs a bit too long, as did PotC1.
Title: Re: Spiderman 3 or Pirates 3 which will be the better film?
Post by: CajoleJuice on April 30, 2007, 11:03:31 AM
Spidey 3

Not a big fan of the Pirates movies at all.
Title: Re: Spiderman 3 or Pirates 3 which will be the better film?
Post by: MrAngryFace on April 30, 2007, 11:03:54 AM
I cant even bring myself to buy the spiderman movies, and I own X3!
Title: Re: Spiderman 3 or Pirates 3 which will be the better film?
Post by: Cheebs on April 30, 2007, 11:05:16 AM
SPIDERMAN is the SNOOZEFEST. Jesus christ the emo shit the 'character development' the too short fight scenes....

At LEAST PotC2 had some interesting action sequences. I do agree it runs a bit too long, as did PotC1.
the problem with spidey 3 is that it doesnt have ENOUGH character development and is rushed action scene after rushed action scene. Spidey 2 will be the best of the 3 due to its focus on Parker and his life.
Title: Re: Spiderman 3 or Pirates 3 which will be the better film?
Post by: MrAngryFace on April 30, 2007, 11:07:57 AM
Spidey 2 is the best of the three because of Doc Oc, the rest of the movie was lame "eye yam spidyrman NO MORE *emo*"
Title: Re: Spiderman 3 or Pirates 3 which will be the better film?
Post by: whiteACID on April 30, 2007, 11:12:20 AM
really?
have you seen any spider-man movies? There is a spider in one scene of spider-man 1 and thats it. Spider-Man has nothing  do with spiders after his origin.
Still, i hate spiders
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Post by: Beezy on April 30, 2007, 11:13:34 AM
pirates
Title: Re: Spiderman 3 or Pirates 3 which will be the better film?
Post by: brandonh83 on April 30, 2007, 12:11:44 PM
SPIDERMAN is the SNOOZEFEST. Jesus christ the emo shit the 'character development' the too short fight scenes....

At LEAST PotC2 had some interesting action sequences. I do agree it runs a bit too long, as did PotC1.
the problem with spidey 3 is that it doesnt have ENOUGH character development and is rushed action scene after rushed action scene. Spidey 2 will be the best of the 3 due to its focus on Parker and his life.

See, the way I look at it -- and it's understandable if you don't agree -- to me in an ongoing story, I think it's okay if most of the character development and whatnot lies in the first two movies. To me I kinda see it as chapters in a book. This is the final chapter of this part of the Spider-man movie story, and I already feel as if I know the characters well enough to just get down to business. And it's not like Spider-man 3 won't have its own development aspects, such as Peter becoming something of an asshole when he gets infected by the symbiote and him having to overcome that, as well as Harry's and Mary Jane's own personal dilemmas.

I dunno, I know the characters, now give me the craziness.

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I won't go to the degree you have on POTC2, but yeah, I was feeling the same thing whenever I revisited POTC2: it just wasn't as good on the second showing out of the theatre. S-M3 all the way.

WTF you make no fucking sense.  :lol Despite your not liking of Pirates 2,  you saw the trailer for Pirates 3 and promptly shit your pants. However, you've been pretty much at the forefront of skepticism for Spider-man 3, yet you're looking forward to Spider-man 3 more than Pirates? And then you say you're looking forward to both of them equally?

Goddamn it. Your mind is like a fucking washing machine of chaos.  :lol
Title: Re: Spiderman 3 or Pirates 3 which will be the better film?
Post by: Cheebs on April 30, 2007, 12:22:33 PM
(http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/1497/voldancemt3.gif) whats all these harry potter avatars you use? Don't tell me you love those movies...  :-\ 1, 2, & 4 were bad films.
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Post by: brandonh83 on April 30, 2007, 12:26:06 PM
What's with your obsession over what avatars I use?  :lol

If they bother you I don't care to change them. Not a big deal.
Title: Re: Spiderman 3 or Pirates 3 which will be the better film?
Post by: Cheebs on April 30, 2007, 12:27:29 PM
cause they are for the harry potter movies! No harry potter movie(outside of 3) deserves avatars. It would be like giving an avatar to stuff like the fantastic four movie or x-men 3.
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Post by: brandonh83 on April 30, 2007, 12:33:07 PM
cause they are for the harry potter movies! No harry potter movie(outside of 3) deserves avatars. It would be like giving an avatar to stuff like the fantastic four movie or x-men 3.

Yeah ok we definitely don't see eye-to-eye about the Potter films, but I do agree that Prisoner of Azkaban is the best directed of them. I consider X-men 3 one of the worst movies I've ever seen though.
Title: Re: Spiderman 3 or Pirates 3 which will be the better film?
Post by: FlameOfCallandor on April 30, 2007, 12:35:00 PM
All of you fail to realize that Pirates 3 has PIRATES!!!

(http://wickedstageact2.typepad.com/life_on_the_wicked_stage_/WindowsLiveWriter/AaarghHappyTalkLikeAPirateDay_759B/pirate%5B3%5D_1.jpg)
Title: Re: Spiderman 3 or Pirates 3 which will be the better film?
Post by: Cheebs on April 30, 2007, 12:37:51 PM
All of you fail to realize that Pirates 3 has PIRATES!!!

(http://wickedstageact2.typepad.com/life_on_the_wicked_stage_/WindowsLiveWriter/AaarghHappyTalkLikeAPirateDay_759B/pirate%5B3%5D_1.jpg)
yeah but so did pirates 2 and that was nowhere near as good as 1.
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Post by: brandonh83 on April 30, 2007, 12:38:12 PM
Exactly FOC. Also it has someone in it that actually snorted the creamated remains of a corpse. That alone makes it superior to the first two.

Oh now Cheebs, does the first Pirates movie have a GIANT FUCKIN SEA MONSTER? The Kraken makes Pirates 2 > Pirates 1 BY ITSELF.
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Post by: Cheebs on April 30, 2007, 12:39:52 PM
Exactly FOC. Also it has someone in it that actually snorted the creamated remains of a corpse. That alone makes it superior to the first two.
What is likely is 1 will go down as a classic with 2 and 3 being the lesser sequels if 3 is anything like 2. Similar to the Matrix.

A very good 3 can retro-actively pull up the much weaker part 2, hopefully.
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Post by: Cheebs on April 30, 2007, 12:40:30 PM

Oh now Cheebs, does the first Pirates movie have a GIANT FUCKIN SEA MONSTER? The Kraken makes Pirates 2 > Pirates 1 BY ITSELF.
Er like every single critic and basically every person on the interwebs who saw 2 say 1>>>2.
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Post by: brandonh83 on April 30, 2007, 12:42:58 PM
I guess I just liked the story more in the second (Davy Jones and all that jazz), the effects more, the soundtrack more, the photography, I found just about everything in Pirates 2 far superior than the first. I saw the first as nothing more than a good time, and that's fine, but when I saw the second I think I was just a bit more drawn into the universe that they're establishing. There's nothing about the first one that I can say was handled better.

And also, that's exactly why the interwebs is the last source of opinions I seek on just about everything.  :lol
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Post by: Phoenix Dark on April 30, 2007, 12:46:24 PM
POTC2>>>>>>>>>>>POTC1
Title: Re: Spiderman 3 or Pirates 3 which will be the better film?
Post by: Cheebs on April 30, 2007, 12:46:39 PM
I guess I just liked the story more in the second (Davy Jones and all that jazz), the effects more, the soundtrack more, the photography, I found just about everything in Pirates 2 far superior than the first. I saw the first as nothing more than a good time, and that's fine, but when I saw the second I think I was just a bit more drawn into the universe that they're establishing. There's nothing about the first one that I can say was handled better.

And also, that's exactly why the interwebs is the last source of opinions I seek on just about everything.  :lol
go by just print reviews then lol

Pirates 1: Fresh: 79% (RT)
Pirates 2: Rotten: 54% (RT)

Pirates 2 was panned by the critics compared to 1. It is not THAT bad, 2 was good but the general consensus that 2 is a much weaker film than 1 is pretty much spot on.

Title: Re: Spiderman 3 or Pirates 3 which will be the better film?
Post by: Cheebs on April 30, 2007, 12:46:58 PM
POTC2>>>>>>>>>>>POTC1
you said otherwise in the summer.
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Post by: brandonh83 on April 30, 2007, 12:49:10 PM
Well sequels generally review worse than originals, again I just can't think of a single reason why the first is better. And critics, meh. If anything that RT score just shows that, just like every other movie on the face of the planet besides Uwe Boll stuff and Van Helsing, is that some people like it, some people don't.
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Post by: Cheebs on April 30, 2007, 12:52:44 PM
the second had more and better action scenes but the first had far more heart and originality.
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Post by: Phoenix Dark on April 30, 2007, 12:53:42 PM
POTC2>>>>>>>>>>>POTC1
you said otherwise in the summer.

I did? Show me the post.

I also said Superman Returns was better than Batman Begins, so it was probably an exaggeration.
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Post by: brandonh83 on April 30, 2007, 12:57:58 PM
the second had more and better action scenes but the first had far more heart and originality.

Well of course it had more "originality," it was the first one. Also, about the first having more heart, well, I thought the second one had some really good stuff in it, like the relationship between Will and Bootstraps, and besides I don't really go to these movies for "heart and soul," I mean they're adventure flicks based on a Disneyworld ride.  :lol

Again when all is said and done I simply felt Dead Man's Chest was just a much better movie in every regard.
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Post by: Phoenix Dark on April 30, 2007, 01:00:24 PM
POTC1 dragged along and seemed too long. POTC2 was pure action from start to finish. Jack's first appearance on camera was badass, and caused the entire audience to cheer lol. The only bad thing about the movie is that it's extremely shallow. As my brother said, it's a giant chase scene. The inclusion of the savages was really stupid, and that part served no purpose.

The ending of the movie was great though
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Post by: Cheebs on April 30, 2007, 01:01:50 PM
POTC1 dragged along and seemed too long. POTC2 was pure action from start to finish. Jack's first appearance on camera was badass, and caused the entire audience to cheer lol. The only bad thing about the movie is that it's extremely shallow. As my brother said, it's a giant chase scene. The inclusion of the savages was really stupid, and that part served no purpose.

The ending of the movie was great though
The shallowness hurt badly. It just felt so so so cookie cutter blockbuster after the first movie. I enjoyed it, but its a empty summer blockbuster.
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Post by: brandonh83 on April 30, 2007, 01:07:36 PM
How is the first one not a cookie-cutter summer flick? It really didn't have much of a plot and the script definitely didn't really get you to try to really care about the characters... thank christ, and rightfully so, because it's a fucking pirate movie with sea monsters. That's it. Sea monsters, shit getting killed and exploded, special effects, huge scale battles and Bill Nighy playing one of the coolest villains ever. And sea monsters. Seriously I have longed for movies with giant ass sea monsters and Pirates 2 delivers.

When the Kraken pulled the ship underwater breaking it in half, I didn't need critics telling me that it was a bad movie. Fuck that shit.
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Post by: Cheebs on April 30, 2007, 01:12:56 PM
1 didnt have sea monsters. The baddie in 2 was a one-note fish thing. The baddie in second was Geoffry Rush acting awesome.
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Post by: brandonh83 on April 30, 2007, 01:15:02 PM
The baddie in the second was badass Bill Nighy playing a much cooler villain. Besides Rush is kinda good guy/bad guy now anyway. Davy Jones is the real badass baddie now. Barbossa is awesome though, love him. I just don't really consider him a "villain" anymore.

And I know the first one didn't have sea monsters, which is one of the many reasons the second is better.
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Post by: FlameOfCallandor on April 30, 2007, 01:19:32 PM
I think we can all agree that Pirates are better than Ninjas, especially ninjas masquerading as spandex wearing emo teenagers acting like spiders.