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Title: Etrian Odyssey - DS GOTY?
Post by: MrAngryFace on June 01, 2007, 11:18:04 AM: (http://www.ebgames.com/common/images/lbox/180273b.jpg)

Yes.

Fun: Check
Good Use of Stylus: Check
Better than Odin Sphere: Check
Fancy 3D graphix: Check
F.O.E.: Check

Required box-art pic for appreciation thread: Check
Title: Re: Etrian Odyssey - DS GOTY?
Post by: Lhadatt on June 01, 2007, 11:27:34 AM: Please sir, tell us more about this "fun" you speak of.
Title: Re: Etrian Odyssey - DS GOTY?
Post by: Van Cruncheon on June 01, 2007, 12:15:29 PM: amen. why this game gets low scores from egm and pokeyman gets 8s and 9s is beyond me.
Title: Re: Etrian Odyssey - DS GOTY?
Post by: MrAngryFace on June 01, 2007, 12:32:39 PM: Pokeyman has weaker gameplay mechanics.
Pokeyman has ugly graphics.
Pokeyman isn't fun.
Pokeyman is completely unoriginal.
Pokeyfans are lame.
Title: Re: Etrian Odyssey - DS GOTY?
Post by: Himu on June 01, 2007, 01:03:50 PM: That doesn't say much about ds' 2007 line up. Ds' 2007 line up is pathetic.
Title: Re: Etrian Odyssey - DS GOTY?
Post by: MrAngryFace on June 01, 2007, 01:04:24 PM: Man last night was awesome, I was on an extended F.O.E. hunt on dungeon level B2, you know, just cleaning up the 'hood as it were. Anyway this F.O.E. comes from around the corner and my party is like wtf omg.

(http://img399.imageshack.us/img399/9803/4128728670zb0.jpg)
OMG!!! WTF BBQ!!!!!!!!1

So immediately im like ok lets take this guy down so my Landsknecht Franc is like OK LETS GO and does his Warcry shit cause he wants to get fucking PUMPED to take this motherfuckin Horned-Pig thing down. My Defender Jolien was like oh shiat I better let Franc get PUMPED so she uses Provoke to piss that big Horned-Pig thing off.

My Alchemist Jane in the back-row knows whats up and whips out her super duper poison potion! Medical Man Dean defends and my Troubador Seele knows that Horned-Pig bastard is gonna hit fuck hard and begins to perform the song of D-FENCE!

OH SHIT Horned-Pig lashes out at Franc. OMG Franc is down already. Song of Defense is not enough! Has the party got in over their heads?!?!?

In a panic Jolien rushes to defend the rear line as Jane tosses her poison potion at the hooves of the Horned-Pig beast. OMG HE AM PZNED! OWNED! Oh shit the pig ignored the rear line and fuckin nailed Jolien in the FACE. Her stats as a Defender keep her upright as Dean casts Cure II to bring her up to full power.

Change of strategy. Seele sings the song of Quickness while Jean prepares a level 4 potion of VOLT. Realizing the Horned-Pig is ignoring the back line Jolien uses her parry skill to negate the Horned-Pig beasts attacks while the Alchemist unleashes potion after potion of Volt. Meanwhile Dean hides and Seele plucks away for extra damage with her ebony bow.

THE BEAST FALLS, but alas poor Franc missed out on the MEGA experience. Maybe nex time Franc -- maybe next time ...
Title: Re: Etrian Odyssey - DS GOTY?
Post by: Himu on June 01, 2007, 01:09:52 PM: :lol

I may give the game a shot whenever I buy a new ds. Whenever that is.
Title: Re: Etrian Odyssey - DS GOTY?
Post by: MrAngryFace on June 01, 2007, 01:42:58 PM: F.O.E.

[youtube=425,350]Kbnu0NKs86Y[/youtube]
Title: Re: Etrian Odyssey - DS GOTY?
Post by: hyp on June 01, 2007, 02:08:11 PM: i must admit.. it's been a lot easier to get into Etrian Odyssey than Odin Sphere. but i still fall asleep playing both. EO in bed, OS on the couch
Title: Re: Etrian Odyssey - DS GOTY?
Post by: MrAngryFace on June 01, 2007, 02:10:02 PM: I dunno, the FOE stuff in EO keeps me on my toes, and I love the mapping. Auto mapping for the lose. Manual mapping is a lot of fun.
Title: Re: Etrian Odyssey - DS GOTY?
Post by: Error2k4 on June 01, 2007, 04:32:37 PM: Quote from: Bubblicious Panda on June 01, 2007, 01:04:24 PM
Man last night was awesome, I was on an extended F.O.E. hunt on dungeon level B2, you know, just cleaning up the 'hood as it were. Anyway this F.O.E. comes from around the corner and my party is like wtf omg.

(http://img399.imageshack.us/img399/9803/4128728670zb0.jpg)
OMG!!! WTF BBQ!!!!!!!!1

So immediately I'm like ok lets take this guy down so my Landsknecht Franc is like OK LETS GO and does his Warcry shit cause he wants to get fucking PUMPED to take this motherfuckin Horned-Pig thing down. My Defender Jolien was like oh shiat I better let Franc get PUMPED so she uses Provoke to piss that big Horned-Pig thing off.

My Alchemist Jane in the back-row knows whats up and whips out her super duper poison potion! Medical Man Dean defends and my Troubador Seele knows that Horned-Pig bastard is gonna hit fuck hard and begins to perform the song of D-FENCE!

OH SHIT Horned-Pig lashes out at Franc. OMG Franc is down already. Song of Defense is not enough! Has the party got in over their heads?!?!?

In a panic Jolien rushes to defend the rear line as Jane tosses her poison potion at the hooves of the Horned-Pig beast. OMG HE AM PZNED! OWNED! Oh shit the pig ignored the rear line and fuckin nailed Jolien in the FACE. Her stats as a Defender keep her upright as Dean casts Cure II to bring her up to full power.

Change of strategy. Seele sings the song of Quickness while Jean prepares a level 4 potion of VOLT. Realizing the Horned-Pig is ignoring the back line Jolien uses her parry skill to negate the Horned-Pig beasts attacks while the Alchemist unleashes potion after potion of Volt. Meanwhile Dean hides and Seele plucks away for extra damage with her ebony bow.

THE BEAST FALLS, but alas poor Franc missed out on the MEGA experience. Maybe nex time Franc -- maybe next time ...
:lol

man the second stratum introduces some AWESOME gameplay mechanics to dungeon exploration that I wont spoil. I'm in the third stratum now clearing the logs of quest I had.

but yeah this game is motherfucking awesome and superior to Odin Sphere by a fair margin. the game is extremely well balanced as long as you have a decent party setup, the exploration is also extremely rewarding and while the 'draw map' shit might sound lame it's actually an AWESOME and CLEVER way to use the touch screen without compromising the core gameplay with lame gimmicks. music is ZOMG Koshiro FM which is excellent and fits the game very well. boss fights are omg omg omg R&D1 awesomeness.

I forgot that the game is also crack on cart. I agree with DS goty so far.
Title: Re: Etrian Odyssey - DS GOTY?
Post by: Himu on June 01, 2007, 04:34:49 PM: Meh. By the time I get another ds it'll probably be rare as fuck . :-\
Title: Re: Etrian Odyssey - DS GOTY?
Post by: MrAngryFace on June 01, 2007, 04:48:57 PM: Its already kinda rare I think
Title: Re: Etrian Odyssey - DS GOTY?
Post by: Scurvy Stan on June 01, 2007, 05:06:40 PM: Your definition of fun is a lot different than my definition of fun.
Title: Re: Etrian Odyssey - DS GOTY?
Post by: Vizzys on June 01, 2007, 05:38:43 PM: weirdest fucking video ive seen in a while

ill try this game.
Title: Re: Etrian Odyssey - DS GOTY?
Post by: The Sceneman on June 01, 2007, 06:18:30 PM: looks tight, that sceenshot with the zany beast sold me I think. Might grab this next time I buy a DS game
Title: Re: Etrian Odyssey - DS GOTY?
Post by: MrAngryFace on June 01, 2007, 06:27:46 PM: Grab it soon. If the gamecrazy I go to hadn't accidently lost their shipment in their own back room, I might not even have the game right now.
Title: Re: Etrian Odyssey - DS GOTY?
Post by: Beezy on June 01, 2007, 07:00:12 PM: I've been to Gamestop multiple times in the past two weeks and I've never seen this game.
Title: Re: Etrian Odyssey - DS GOTY?
Post by: MrAngryFace on June 01, 2007, 07:02:04 PM: Its a shame the magazines gave Pokemon Donkey/Punch props but slapped stupid ass 5s and 6s on this game just cause theyre fuckin morons.
Title: Re: Etrian Odyssey - DS GOTY?
Post by: The Sceneman on June 01, 2007, 07:08:13 PM: I try not to think about gaming journalists, their shit pisses me off to the max :maf
Title: Re: Etrian Odyssey - DS GOTY?
Post by: MrAngryFace on June 01, 2007, 07:08:55 PM: God damn if EGM subscription wasnt free id never read it.

Looks like Brick stores may not have Etrian in stock, but ebgames.com is still shipping in 24 hours!

http://www.ebgames.com/product.asp?product%5Fid=180273
Title: Re: Etrian Odyssey - DS GOTY?
Post by: Scurvy Stan on June 02, 2007, 02:50:11 AM: Quote from: Scenester on June 01, 2007, 07:08:13 PM
I try not to think about gaming journalists, their shit pisses me off to the max :maf

There's no such thing as gaming journalists.
Title: Re: Etrian Odyssey - DS GOTY?
Post by: The Sceneman on June 02, 2007, 03:41:50 AM: Just a pack of dickcheeses who dont actually play games for the right reasons
Title: Re: Etrian Odyssey - DS GOTY?
Post by: tiesto on June 02, 2007, 11:33:37 AM: I saw a buncha copies at a local FYE, you might wanna try there, it's the same price as EB ($30) and you don't have to worry about gutted stuff. Of course, YMMV.
Title: Re: Etrian Odyssey - DS GOTY?
Post by: MrAngryFace on June 02, 2007, 11:41:41 AM: I wish FYE was a bit more fair on their prices all around tho. Still EO EO EO
Title: Re: Etrian Odyssey - DS GOTY?
Post by: pancakesandsex on June 02, 2007, 05:19:32 PM: FYE has it for 30 bucks like everyone else, thats where i got mine
Title: Re: Etrian Odyssey - DS GOTY?
Post by: Vizzys on June 02, 2007, 05:58:30 PM: I gots the game.

So far the music am good.

Made my party and have yet to enter the labyrinth
Title: Re: Etrian Odyssey - DS GOTY?
Post by: Beezy on June 02, 2007, 09:37:18 PM: MAF and Error, I bought the last copy of this game at FYE today just because of you two. It better not suck! :maf
Title: Re: Etrian Odyssey - DS GOTY?
Post by: Vizzys on June 02, 2007, 09:46:58 PM: I liked setting up my party but the game is looking pretty grindfest.

MAP YOUR PROGRESS BY HAND

GENIUS

Auto map - yes please and thank you.
Title: Re: Etrian Odyssey - DS GOTY?
Post by: Himu on June 02, 2007, 10:09:44 PM: If it's grind fest, I'm not bothering. I want it, but alas, no DS no more.
Title: Re: Etrian Odyssey - DS GOTY?
Post by: demi on June 02, 2007, 10:21:20 PM: Um, it's been pretty known to be a grinding roguelike type game. Borrrrring.
Title: Re: Etrian Odyssey - DS GOTY?
Post by: Himu on June 02, 2007, 10:40:40 PM: O rly? Failure.
Title: Re: Etrian Odyssey - DS GOTY?
Post by: Error2k4 on June 02, 2007, 10:54:33 PM: Quote from: Himuro on June 02, 2007, 10:09:44 PM
If it's grind fest, I'm not bothering. I want it, but alas, no DS no more.
it's a first person dungeon crawling game... of course grinding is part of the game, but you don't grind like walking back and forth in the same spot. you can do quests, defeat FOEs, bosses (they respawn), go to hidden areas in floors you haven't gone before AND you will of course gain levels in the process while doing some cool shit.

I had to grind for awhile to get 3 dudes up to respectable levels, but that's because I made some shitty decisions while building my old party and I had to replace my old front row.

like I said if you have a decent party setup (like for example my party is built around Bind skills) and if you cover your bases pretty well you wont have to do some crazy powerlevelling in the game often.
Title: Re: Etrian Odyssey - DS GOTY?
Post by: Himu on June 02, 2007, 10:56:18 PM: So it's basically grinding to the people with no imaginations, but for the people who like to explore and never run away from battles in the first place it won't feel like you're grinding? Kinda like Dragon Quest VIII? People said you had to grind for DQVIII but I never grinded once except at the very very very beginning of the game, because all the other times I was exploring and didn't notice.
Title: Re: Etrian Odyssey - DS GOTY?
Post by: Beezy on June 02, 2007, 10:57:04 PM: Quote from: Dick Frost on June 02, 2007, 10:21:20 PM
Um, it's been pretty known to be a grinding roguelike type game. Borrrrring.

I liked Pokemon Mystery Dungeon (for the short time that i had it :() and Izuna.
Title: Re: Etrian Odyssey - DS GOTY?
Post by: Himu on June 02, 2007, 10:58:05 PM: I love me some dungeon crawling, pretty much the only rpgs I fully enjoy these days are dungeon crawlers, but grinding is the bane of my existence.
Title: Re: Etrian Odyssey - DS GOTY?
Post by: Error2k4 on June 02, 2007, 11:33:05 PM: Quote from: Himuro on June 02, 2007, 10:56:18 PM
So it's basically grinding to the people with no imaginations, but for the people who like to explore and never run away from battles in the first place it won't feel like you're grinding? Kinda like Dragon Quest VIII? People said you had to grind for DQVIII but I never grinded once except at the very very very beginning of the game, because all the other times I was exploring and didn't notice.
it's kinda like that yeah, I honestly never feel like I had to grind because it's absolutely impossible to make some progress otherwise.

there are also ways to make gaining exp easier, if you take only 2 characters to battle they will gain a lot more exp than if you take 3 for example. also the bard/trobadour class has a skill that lets you gain a lot more exp in battles too. the game does it job trying to make 'grinding' easy and not tedious, it's really up to the player imo.
Title: Re: Etrian Odyssey - DS GOTY?
Post by: Himu on June 02, 2007, 11:39:54 PM: Sounds good.
Title: Re: Etrian Odyssey - DS GOTY?
Post by: Error2k4 on June 03, 2007, 05:53:43 PM: just got my ass kicked by an insanely strong enemy in floor 3.

to put it into perspective Im on floor 11 now, so even after having long cleared floor 3 there is still new shit and fucking hard enemies there.
Title: Re: Etrian Odyssey - DS GOTY?
Post by: Beezy on June 03, 2007, 09:10:25 PM: Before I open my copy, can someone tell me what exactly the game is about?
Title: Re: Etrian Odyssey - DS GOTY?
Post by: Himu on June 03, 2007, 10:40:38 PM: Quote from: Beezy on June 03, 2007, 09:10:25 PM
Before I open my copy, can someone tell me what exactly the game is about?

Dungeon crawling and kicking monster ass. If you don't like it, give it to me so I can have a copy when I get a new ds.
Title: Re: Etrian Odyssey - DS GOTY?
Post by: Scurvy Stan on June 03, 2007, 11:15:41 PM: Quote from: Himuro on June 02, 2007, 10:58:05 PM
I love me some dungeon crawling, pretty much the only rpgs I fully enjoy these days are dungeon crawlers, but grinding is the bane of my existence.

Does not compute.
Title: Re: Etrian Odyssey - DS GOTY?
Post by: Himu on June 03, 2007, 11:18:22 PM: Quote from: Scurvy Stan on June 03, 2007, 11:15:41 PM
Quote from: Himuro on June 02, 2007, 10:58:05 PM
I love me some dungeon crawling, pretty much the only rpgs I fully enjoy these days are dungeon crawlers, but grinding is the bane of my existence.

Does not compute.

What?
Title: Re: Etrian Odyssey - DS GOTY?
Post by: Vizzys on June 03, 2007, 11:47:52 PM: just got my ass kicked by an F.O.E. :lol alchemists :bow helped a lot
Title: Re: Etrian Odyssey - DS GOTY?
Post by: Vizzys on June 04, 2007, 02:00:30 AM: Beat that fucker easy after some leveling. Encountered that beast in the above picture and met my demise however.

I've come across 4 F.O.E's thus far, I wasnt expecting this many per level...currently my strategy is to run like a bitch.

Maybe my party is too odd.
Title: Re: Etrian Odyssey - DS GOTY?
Post by: Error2k4 on June 04, 2007, 05:40:34 AM: what's your party?

edit: the 3rd stratum has giving me a lot less trouble than the second one.
Title: Re: Etrian Odyssey - DS GOTY?
Post by: MrAngryFace on June 04, 2007, 10:35:05 AM: I assume youre supposed to avoid MR BUG?

My main party of

Land-Def
Alch-Med-Troub

am cry at that boss lols :(
Title: Re: Etrian Odyssey - DS GOTY?
Post by: MrAngryFace on June 04, 2007, 10:36:19 AM: Quote from: Beezy on June 02, 2007, 10:57:04 PM
Quote from: Dick Frost on June 02, 2007, 10:21:20 PM
Um, it's been pretty known to be a grinding roguelike type game. Borrrrring.

I liked Pokemon Mystery Dungeon (for the short time that i had it :() and Izuna.

Right on, Brother.
Title: Re: Etrian Odyssey - DS GOTY?
Post by: Vizzys on June 04, 2007, 04:08:20 PM: my party is

Protector -Dark Hunter - Survivalist
Alchemist - Healer

I think I need a landshark or whatever they be called... dark hunter seems mostly useless atm.

Made it to bf3 and got torn to shreds by a stalker in a couple rounds.
Title: Re: Etrian Odyssey - DS GOTY?
Post by: MrAngryFace on June 04, 2007, 05:36:52 PM: Yeah you went 3 in front I see. I tried training a Dark Hunter for the front line cause Drinky said his does great but mine mostly sucks ass :(

Protectors are so fucking useful. I'd go 3 in front with 2 protectors to spam protect rear and protect front between them if need be while the Landsnkct whatever the fuck unleashes major damage but the troubadour is crazy useful I think, and has a decent ranged attack amount.

Im trading a fire spec alchemist (my main is volt spec) , survivalist, and dark hunter on the side, but my main team gets the job done pretty nicely.

Also I think on level 3 youre supposed to avoid that main bad guy, cause I tried fighting it and omg slaughter even at level 12 across the board.
Title: Re: Etrian Odyssey - DS GOTY?
Post by: Beezy on June 04, 2007, 05:44:38 PM: I forgot that I had lent my DS to a friend, so I still haven't played or even opened the game yet. I'm gonna have to take my nephew's DSlite later on tonight.
Title: Re: Etrian Odyssey - DS GOTY?
Post by: Error2k4 on June 04, 2007, 07:57:45 PM: dark hunters are alright, their bind skills are really really useful but I wouldnt recommend using one because you have to build them in certain ways, they are the fastest class in the game iirc.

a good party could be:
- front row: protector, swordsman whatever the name is land something
- back row: trobadour (with defense/attack buffs), medic and alchemist.

oh yeah there are some FOEs that you are not supposed to beat right on, you just wait till you are strong enough and then you try to beat them. the best way is to just avoid them if you are too weak.
Title: Re: Etrian Odyssey - DS GOTY?
Post by: MrAngryFace on June 05, 2007, 10:41:49 AM: Wow Error, your good party just described my party haha. Seriously tho its a great combination. The protector and troub are awesome support and the alch and lands can dish out DMG and well the healer, why buy potions? lololol

I skipped the FOE's in 1B3 or whatever cause theyre both those weird praying manitis things, dicked around in level 4 for a while killing wolves and mapping a bit. Everyones level 15 right now I think.

Thor is a badass spell :D
Title: Re: Etrian Odyssey - DS GOTY?
Post by: Beezy on June 05, 2007, 07:58:06 PM: So I just started playing this a little over an hour ago. What exactly are boost points? And do you have to place a monster icon on the map every time you get into a fight or just when you encounter a new monster?
Title: Re: Etrian Odyssey - DS GOTY?
Post by: Beezy on June 05, 2007, 08:04:33 PM: At the moment my party is:

Protector - Landwhatever - Dark Hunter
Medic - Survivalist

I really need an Alchemist though, so I'm gonna change my party to:

Protector - Landdude
Alchemist - Medic - Survivalist

What exactly do troubadours do?
Title: Re: Etrian Odyssey - DS GOTY?
Post by: MrAngryFace on June 05, 2007, 08:07:19 PM: I dont place icons for randoms, i'll post monster points in general 'areas' where FOE's show up but thats as far as I go. Ill give you some FOE advice for Floor 3.

When you enter, go straight south until you are one space from the wall, then turn west and head straight without stopping till you get to the door. It may LOOK like the FOE will get you, but it will not. Enter the door and stop.

If your encounter gauge is red move one space north and one space south until you encounter. Fight. Win. I tell you to do this because if you random encounter near a FOE, the FOE still takes movement turns and CAN intrude into a random encounter. This is NOT ideal. Ever.

At this point move north to the wall/face west. Move west until you see the FOE ahead of you and its indicator on the map is red. At this point move east to the wall, then move two blocks south then move straight west to the wall, then north to the wall, then face west to the door, open and enter.

Basically what this will do is completely sidestep the FOE in the first room of floor 3, and in the second room, lure the FOE away from the door to the third room where its relatively safe.

This will get you past the two high level FOEs that you can't beat for a very long time. The rest of the map is fairly standard proceedure, just higher level stuff.
Title: Re: Etrian Odyssey - DS GOTY?
Post by: MrAngryFace on June 05, 2007, 08:08:48 PM: Quote from: Beezy on June 05, 2007, 08:04:33 PM
At the moment my party is:

Protector - Landwhatever - Dark Hunter
Medic - Survivalist

I really need an Alchemist though, so I'm gonna change my party to:

Protector - Landdude
Alchemist - Medic - Survivalist

What exactly do troubadours do?

Troubadours sing songs, all of which enhance stats in a fight. Not only do they enhance stats but they also can negate negative stats placed on the party. Their later songs also sound kinda crazy. I mostly buff the song of Shelter for now. I have also found that a Troub with a bow hits as hard as a normal survivalist bow attack. Which makes them useful between songs to a degree.
Title: Re: Etrian Odyssey - DS GOTY?
Post by: Beezy on June 05, 2007, 08:31:47 PM: Hmm, I'll probably switch my survivalist for a troubadour then.

Thanks for the FOE advice. You forgot one question though. What are boost points?
Title: Re: Etrian Odyssey - DS GOTY?
Post by: Error2k4 on June 05, 2007, 09:59:20 PM: at level 15 you could take out those FOEs on b3f without much problems, btw if you are low on money you SHOULD try to take one of those mantis FOEs on b3f, it's good stuff what they drop.

the boss of that stratum is very cool and the second stratum rocks (although a little rough at first).

trabadours also have a great skill which boost the exp gained in each battle and makes it less tedious if you are going to grind for exp or build up new party members or something.
Title: Re: Etrian Odyssey - DS GOTY?
Post by: Van Cruncheon on June 05, 2007, 10:10:21 PM: how many levels per stratum, and how many levels total?
Title: Re: Etrian Odyssey - DS GOTY?
Post by: Error2k4 on June 05, 2007, 10:19:04 PM: Quote from: Professor Prole on June 05, 2007, 10:10:21 PM
how many levels per stratum, and how many levels total?
5 floors per stratum, 30 floors in total
Title: Re: Etrian Odyssey - DS GOTY?
Post by: tiesto on June 06, 2007, 09:56:11 AM: 'bout how long does this game take to finish? I'm gonna pick it up when I'm done with Gurumin.
Title: Re: Etrian Odyssey - DS GOTY?
Post by: MrAngryFace on June 06, 2007, 10:44:13 AM: Money is not a problem, things to buy is a problem :(

Troubs are badass.
Title: Re: Etrian Odyssey - DS GOTY?
Post by: Error2k4 on June 06, 2007, 07:10:32 PM: Quote from: tiesto on June 06, 2007, 09:56:11 AM
'bout how long does this game take to finish? I'm gonna pick it up when I'm done with Gurumin.
I'll give a rough estimate, I say 50 hours or maybe more depending on your playing style.

this is the kind of game where you cant and probably wont be able to rush through it. you just take it slowly and explore every inch and corner, do every quest etc.. etc..
Title: Re: Etrian Odyssey - DS GOTY?
Post by: Vizzys on June 07, 2007, 04:20:09 AM: hmm

Ive played this almost inhuman amounts of hours the past two days...

boost points, I believe are obtained from defeating FOE's, not sure but they are pretty helpful.

I switched out my dark hunter for a landschnekt and have leveled him up to 14ish. Most of my characters are near 17 I believe, too lazy to check atm

My current party is

Protector - Landsknecht - Survivalist
Alchemist -Medic

My protector does well, the protecting. F.Shield and B.Shield are really handy, as is the provoke/parry combo when it works.

Landsknecht is the power guy, does more damage at a lower level then all my other people when it comes to physical damage. Tornado is pretty handy move.

Survivalist has that move that lowers enemy accuracy which has kept him around so far. Multihit and Trueshot are pretty powerful as well.

Alchemist - well Ive made him center around fire, he has fire/flare/inferno as well as basic ice/volt in case they are needed. Probably my most powerful character.

My medic has cure 1/2/3 and salve, which is soo much better then cure considering it cost only one more tp to use atm and heals everyone. pretty much a given to have a medic around. Still need revive however, working on that

So far I have gotten to Fenrirs lair and got my ass kicked pretty hard. Probably because after a while the other wolves (skolls? i noticed they are harder then regular wolves, if only enough to be more annoying) join in and fuck me up. I need to kill those fucks off first.

A cheap way to get money I read somewhere is to make five survivalists and use all their skill points on chop, go to that wood area on bf1 (through that secret passage way if you have found it) and chop to your hearts content. Sell all the stuff you get and you will make roughty 500-800 a day. it costs 8en to sleep at the inn for all your low level survivialists and you make a huge fucking profit.

very handy. maybe even game breaking. :)

I have done all the quests so far but the lvl 20 landschnekt one.
Title: Re: Etrian Odyssey - DS GOTY?
Post by: Vizzys on June 07, 2007, 06:56:06 AM: anyway about boost points since I didnt elaborate, they seem to add damage to your attacks, both physical and elemental

also attacks with a percentage of doing something extra seem greatly increased

I believe an alchemist using boost can poison anything 100% of the time, and thats just one usage of boost.
Title: Re: Etrian Odyssey - DS GOTY?
Post by: MrAngryFace on June 07, 2007, 10:49:35 AM: There's potions for boost points.

My groups level 16 across the board, only things I cant beat on level 3 are two slashers whatever at a time. I ALSO have too much money. 3000 right now and nothing to buy. I did get a new charm from the scythe item but other than that..

I grind a lot tho, going to run through the 4th floor tonight maybe, but .Hack is calling me.
Title: Re: Etrian Odyssey - DS GOTY?
Post by: Beezy on June 07, 2007, 11:17:15 AM: I haven't had time to play as much as you guys yet. My 5 main party members are all level 7-8 and the last thing that I did was kill the first FOE that you encounter. His confusion move pissed me off, but I still kept everyone still survived.

The game is extremely addictive though. I dropped everything else that I've been playing for this.
Title: Re: Etrian Odyssey - DS GOTY?
Post by: MrAngryFace on June 07, 2007, 11:21:05 AM: 2nd FOE type is easier, he just hits hard. 3rd FOE type required my party be at level 15, but I cant take two of them on at once. the FOE on level 4 are easy but also travel in packs.
Title: Re: Etrian Odyssey - DS GOTY?
Post by: Error2k4 on June 08, 2007, 06:23:28 AM: Quote from: Viz on June 07, 2007, 04:20:09 AM

A cheap way to get money I read somewhere is to make five survivalists and use all their skill points on chop, go to that wood area on bf1 (through that secret passage way if you have found it) and chop to your hearts content. Sell all the stuff you get and you will make roughty 500-800 a day. it costs 8en to sleep at the inn for all your low level survivialists and you make a huge fucking profit.

very handy. maybe even game breaking. :)
not at all, actually the game encourages you to have a party for dungeon clearing and another for item gathering.
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Post by: MrAngryFace on June 08, 2007, 06:11:37 PM: Some games actually want you to min/max
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Post by: Vizzys on June 08, 2007, 08:44:47 PM: I suppose its not game breaking since you must obtain the materials to get the better items to buy. So you are still forced to venture out there.

I dont play many games like this so whateva
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Post by: The Sceneman on June 08, 2007, 09:35:43 PM: Man this game sounds cool. I'll have to track down a copy
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Post by: MrAngryFace on June 08, 2007, 10:03:18 PM: I dont see why you need to, I never run out of money these days.
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Post by: Beezy on June 12, 2007, 01:53:57 PM: This game owns my soul. I really need to get to the next stratum though. I'm getting tired of seeing the same green background over and over.

Can someone tell me where to find Pyroxene? I found it once earlier on in the game and sold it, but now that I need it for a quest, I can't find it anywhere. I can't get enough gum hides either.
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Post by: Vizzys on June 12, 2007, 04:07:49 PM: you have to mine for it on the 5th floor i believe.

gum hides are from those armadillo lookin things
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Post by: Beezy on June 12, 2007, 05:29:57 PM: Hmm, I could've sworn that I got pyroxene before. I guess I was mistaking something else for it. Oh well. I'm up ot the 5th floor anyway. I finally got enough gum hides too from fighting war bulls. My party is level 17 now.
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Post by: disgruntled_jojo on June 14, 2007, 10:20:57 PM: 'THE BEAST FALLS, but alas poor Franc missed out on the MEGA experience. Maybe nex time Franc -- maybe next time ...'

pwnt

Actually your description makes me want to try this game...
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Post by: MrAngryFace on June 14, 2007, 10:44:28 PM: Its a fun game! If it wasnt for my .HACK CHALLENGE id be playing it more. I FOLLOW THROUGH ON MY PROMISES!
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Post by: bluemax on June 17, 2007, 11:59:24 PM: So I got this from Gamefly on Saturday. Seems pretty fun and addicting in that old school sort of way. I'm tempted to buy it so I can give it to my dad, he loves this sort of game (he used to play Bard's Tale on C64 all the time).
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Post by: MrAngryFace on June 18, 2007, 12:17:04 AM: Buy it before its hard to find lol.
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Post by: Vizzys on June 21, 2007, 12:57:17 AM: Played some more. LOTS more.

beat fenrir, second stratum was waaaay easier, even the boss. On the third now. And I have an itching suspicion my party will be fighting that ronin and hexer down the line some time. I'm 99% sure of it.
spoiler (click to show/hide)
100% now that i checked. :lol
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Anyway I fucking hate the third stratum.

goddamn ants. fuck them.

I went into their lair and probably killed 16 of them FOEs (bloodants who call for deathant support) more FOE's kept joining in again and again until I ran like a bitch after a few good hours of holding them off.)

My party is around level 34 each. Got the scroll to allow ronin making but I wont bother until I can use 6 people. If or when that ever happens. does it?
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Post by: The Sceneman on July 04, 2007, 06:26:52 AM: Sweet my copy of this arrived today. Seems like a really great game so far (Im about 1/2 an hour in) Loving the music, rockin' 16-bit style tunes are always sweet. Was cruising around the first stratum grinding those rattata lookalikes and bugs and shit filling out out the map for the first mission, then the game asks me if I want to relax in the flowers so I say yes, then 3 badass venom bugs bust out and waste my whole party. This is the kind of shit you want in games

edit: lol Viz my party is identical to yours

And from the gaf thread:

Quote from: sporks
Although, I think mostly it has to do with the fact I wasted all my money on buying weapons and stuff without even checking to see if I already had them. Also I didn't realize putting people in the back lessened their ATK and upped their DEF.

Is this the first rpg he's played or something? :sp0rsk1
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Post by: MrAngryFace on July 04, 2007, 11:27:07 AM: Sporks am special total lol
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Post by: The Sceneman on July 04, 2007, 06:50:17 PM: well he clearly doesnt know shit about gaming, and is a loser. The sporks show is a testament to that.

Well Im at work now and Im dying for my lunch break so I get an hour in on this... only played for about 45 mins since I got it and Im already pretty addicted.

Should I swap out my Survivalist for a Troub? If their attacks have the same power it seems like a pretty good idea. My party isnt actually 100% like Viz's, instead of a Protector I have one of thise Dark attackers or what ever they are called. I read earlier on that these guys you have to build them specifically or else they are kinda useless... should I swap this guy for a protector? Tips would be appreciated
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Post by: Beezy on July 04, 2007, 07:07:04 PM: My Protector has saved my crew from dying in FOE and boss battles countless times. I can't imagine trying to play through the game without one.
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Post by: Vizzys on July 04, 2007, 07:15:01 PM: survivalist become really handy, not sure about troubs but I wouldnt switch them out personally

keep a protector for sure
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Post by: The Sceneman on July 04, 2007, 07:23:07 PM: Sweet as I'll keep my Survivalist, mines called 'Big Ray' so I want to keep him lol. My dark dude 'Steve' can get the chop I think, I'll replace him with a protector. My crew is only level 3-4 so its no biggie
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Post by: Vizzys on July 04, 2007, 07:26:32 PM: I remember a time when getting jumped by three moles meant death.

That time has long since passed.

Now I can take on multiple F.O.E.'s (youll see what I mean)
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Post by: The Sceneman on July 05, 2007, 07:39:07 PM: Okay Ive pretty much mapped out the 2nd floor now, killed all the stupid Jackalope FOE characters roaming around. This game has got me by the balls for real. Soooo damn addictive. And good!
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Post by: Vizzys on July 05, 2007, 08:32:30 PM: if you encounter a stalker on b3, best run away, they will rape you
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Post by: The Sceneman on July 05, 2007, 08:54:04 PM: yeah the game even warned me about those fuckers with some text and some evil music and shit. What level do you have to be at to take them down?
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Post by: Vizzys on July 05, 2007, 09:12:50 PM: I would not suggest it till you reach a few more levels down

i dont know the exact level they become easy honestly, but they are tougher then most of the FOE's in the first stratum
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Post by: Error2k4 on July 05, 2007, 11:49:44 PM: picked this up again couldnt play for almost a month because of work. almost done with the 3rd stratum, I like how the game still throws some new stuff at different floors.

b14f is pretty fucking tricky btw. if the battle last for more than 2 turns a FOE will join the battle automatically making a normal battle go from easy to 'omg Im going to die here'

still my goty so far.
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Post by: The Sceneman on July 08, 2007, 04:00:00 AM: I mananged to beat a stalker fairly comfortably at lvl 17. Fenrir is giving me a hard time though, Ive manged to drop him in battle but then his cronies rape me :( Oh well, back for another go
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Post by: Vizzys on July 08, 2007, 04:04:45 AM: yeah, kill all the skolls (wolves) you can before fenrir, some are behind him and are unreachable however
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Post by: The Sceneman on July 08, 2007, 07:29:27 PM: sweet Im up to the 2nd stratum now, this game owns my soul, I played for about 7 hours yesterday, this shit is soooo damn good. Any of you guys finished it yet? Is there a play time counter?
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Post by: Error2k4 on July 16, 2007, 07:40:39 PM: ditching my alchemist and probably the dark hunter too but Im not sure yet. really need a bard now, the alchemist is awesome for clearing dungeons floors and stuff but for actual boss fights, the alchemists sucks because you really need a character that can provide support to the whole party like a bard.

grinding in this game is not that tedious specially when you can fight bosses again for some sweet exp. my ronin went from level 15 to level 25 when I fought the 3rd stratum boss again but this time with 3 party members only (a hell of a fight too)

4th stratum has kicks ass music and a new battle theme.
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Post by: The Sceneman on July 16, 2007, 11:24:54 PM: Didnt play this for a week and picked it up agian today. AAAAArrgghHH gotta remember to not take on unfamiliar FOEs when I havent saved in 40 minutes... got my party up two levels, got a heap more of the map uncovered and got to B9F. Then this Red snuffleupagus elephant motherfucker jumps my party, just aobut killed him, then he raped my medic so I was like oh fuck better run... but my 8 escape attempts failed and he totals my party :'( explorers guild 'Hang On' got PWNED
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Post by: hyp on July 17, 2007, 01:14:00 PM: fuck this game. i ended up sleeping at 4am after a crazy grind session.

man, that fucker in B3F is pissing me off. so many times i accidentally ran into him after a load of progress. is there any way to warp back to town besides the warp wire (which i used already). i'd create a new character for that spell alone.
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Post by: Error2k4 on July 17, 2007, 02:29:59 PM: I think the bard has a move that transports you to the previous floor or something. you should always have a warp wire, they are cheap anyway.
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Post by: Beezy on July 17, 2007, 02:49:54 PM: Quote from: hyp on July 17, 2007, 01:14:00 PM
besides the warp wire (which i used already).
???

So buy more. They're cheap enough.
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Post by: Error2k4 on July 17, 2007, 03:11:39 PM: you only need one actually, more than 1 would just take space in an already limited inventory.
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Post by: The Sceneman on July 17, 2007, 07:14:50 PM: I find my main problem is forgetting to pack a warp wire lol. Ive had a few times where Ive pretty much run my party ragged and opened up the item screen to warp, then helloooooo I forgot to buy one last time I was in town. And I didnt have enough TP or items to survive the trip back on foot :'(
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Post by: The Sceneman on July 17, 2007, 07:15:59 PM: I wasted that Elephant motherfucker last night, for revenge
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Post by: hyp on July 18, 2007, 01:37:19 PM: Quote from: Beezy on July 17, 2007, 02:49:54 PM
Quote from: hyp on July 17, 2007, 01:14:00 PM
besides the warp wire (which i used already).
???

So buy more. They're cheap enough.

glad they'll be available to buy. that's been my main gripe w/ the game so far, backtracking is a bitch
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Post by: The Sceneman on July 18, 2007, 07:02:27 PM: ?? They should be available to buy, providing you reported your success of the 1st mission (mapping to 1st floor) to Radha Hall. the guy gives you a letter to hand to Shilleka, who in turn will start selling you warp wires for 100en. They are under the Items menu in her shop.
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Post by: Error2k4 on July 18, 2007, 10:02:04 PM: the other side of b7f is ridiculous. there was a shortcut there and when I was going to open it, I got killed arghhhhhhhhhhh

now I have to go to b11f and keep going up till I reach b7f again :(
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Post by: Error2k4 on July 18, 2007, 11:42:27 PM: I like how the shortcuts are in the places where they make the most sense.
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Post by: The Sceneman on July 19, 2007, 04:36:10 AM: FUCK THIS SHIT whatever you do dont do the other half of B5, 4, and 3 :( Spend about an hour grinding and mapping out all the extra shit then BAM this Golem mutherfucker turns up and rapes me and I cant fucking escape! Im not playing this for a while :maf :maf :maf :maf
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Post by: Error2k4 on July 19, 2007, 05:02:20 AM: dude it's a black sphere, of course it's going to be one tough motherfucker. tho I'm not sure if he jumps on you and attacks right away or if he lets you go.

pretty sure it's the latter tho, since I saw it once then went back healed my party and fought him later got my ass kicked of course.

there are three types of FOEs in the game

orange - these are most of the time pretty easy and you can beat them without much trouble if you are careful

red - these ones are tough tho, they can kill you if you are not well prepared to face one. they usually guard a specific area.

black - toughest of all, the boss-level baddies in the game.
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Post by: The Sceneman on July 19, 2007, 05:38:16 AM: Hey I didnt know about the colours of FOE... thanks for the tip.

But yeah I might 'rest' this game for a few days to get back to the other carts marinating in my backlog. Age of Empires is pretty damn attractive right now. I completed 60% of the campaign missions, might go back and try and complete the game. Cooking Mama can go to hell. Ouendan 2 is only coming out once Ive been puffing some serious green shit
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Post by: The Sceneman on July 19, 2007, 05:44:16 AM: FOE, FOE, All I want for christmas is an FOE
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Post by: Beezy on July 19, 2007, 09:30:54 AM: Quote from: Scenester on July 19, 2007, 05:38:16 AM
Age of Empires is pretty damn attractive right now. I completed 60% of the campaign missions, might go back and try and complete the game.
I told you it was great. :D
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Post by: hyp on July 19, 2007, 12:58:16 PM: Quote from: Scenester on July 18, 2007, 07:02:27 PM
?? They should be available to buy, providing you reported your success of the 1st mission (mapping to 1st floor) to Radha Hall. the guy gives you a letter to hand to Shilleka, who in turn will start selling you warp wires for 100en. They are under the Items menu in her shop.

hmmm, don't think they're available yet and i'm way past that part. i'll have to check again, maybe my eyes are tweakin' out.
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Post by: Error2k4 on July 19, 2007, 06:12:30 PM: 4th section of the Labyrinth is very confusing and awesome. totally makes you adjust because the floors here are not as straightfoward as the previous ones.

this section remind me of Nocturne's dungeons.
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Post by: The Sceneman on July 19, 2007, 07:04:21 PM: Quote from: hyp on July 19, 2007, 12:58:16 PM
Quote from: Scenester on July 18, 2007, 07:02:27 PM
?? They should be available to buy, providing you reported your success of the 1st mission (mapping to 1st floor) to Radha Hall. the guy gives you a letter to hand to Shilleka, who in turn will start selling you warp wires for 100en. They are under the Items menu in her shop.

hmmm, don't think they're available yet and i'm way past that part. i'll have to check again, maybe my eyes are tweakin' out.

Please do, Im really concerned about this, hyp. Let me know how you get on
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Post by: The Sceneman on July 19, 2007, 07:07:16 PM: Quote from: Beezy on July 19, 2007, 09:30:54 AM
Quote from: Scenester on July 19, 2007, 05:38:16 AM
Age of Empires is pretty damn attractive right now. I completed 60% of the campaign missions, might go back and try and complete the game.
I told you it was great. :D

Damn skippy. Im up to the Saladin campaign now which Im finding to be pretty enjoyable. Only gripe with this game is the Music, too damn repetitive. They should have had a playlist of like 15 tracks or something like the PC game, I dont see why they didnt do it, it sucks having the same muisc play over and over and over
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Post by: Beezy on July 19, 2007, 09:02:23 PM: True. The music is good, but it gets boring when you have to hear the same song for 5-6 missions straight. Especially since some of the missions can take hours to complete.
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Post by: The Sceneman on July 26, 2007, 06:53:02 PM: Time to bump this thread, bitches.

This game honestly keeps getting better and better. B14F is amazing! Basically Im desperate to get to the 5th stratum as Error says the music rocks and theres a new battle theme.
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Post by: tiesto on July 26, 2007, 07:41:37 PM: Got this for my birthday, gonna play later tonite :D
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Post by: The Sceneman on July 26, 2007, 07:50:00 PM: Get ready for a WILD RIDE. This is one the best DS games ever
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Post by: Error2k4 on July 27, 2007, 02:52:50 AM: 5th stratum is completely different from the rest, you'll see.
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Post by: The Sceneman on August 01, 2007, 06:03:18 AM: I was just reading the game credits in the instruction manual. You know why the musics so damn good? Its by YUZO FUCKING KOSHIRO, one the all time great game composers, responsible for the 'tracks for Revenge of Shinobi and The Streets of Rage series
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Post by: Error2k4 on August 01, 2007, 07:57:10 AM: yeah, the music in the game is zomg.
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Post by: tiesto on August 01, 2007, 08:28:26 AM: Quote from: Scenester on August 01, 2007, 06:03:18 AM
I was just reading the game credits in the instruction manual. You know why the musics so damn good? Its by YUZO FUCKING KOSHIRO, one the all time great game composers, responsible for the 'tracks for Revenge of Shinobi and The Streets of Rage series

:bow :bow :bow
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Post by: jiji on August 02, 2007, 02:22:26 AM: Just started the game today.

...

My hourlong bus commute has never gone faster. :bow :bow :bow
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Post by: Error2k4 on August 02, 2007, 07:55:49 AM: you are going to start wishing they were longer.
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Post by: The Sceneman on August 02, 2007, 06:17:16 PM: How well is this game selling anyways? The forum love is pretty strong but I imagine sales arent too good, this being a niche title and all
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Post by: Error2k4 on August 02, 2007, 06:19:03 PM: it's pretty niche and not accessible, I dont expect this game to sell that well.