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Title: the legitimately awful things you like
Post by: Van Cruncheon on June 07, 2007, 04:15:11 PM
in the interest of demonstrating that i'm not a total fuckin' snob, i'm gonna list four things i like that are legitimately BAD (not schlocky amusing bad, like a hot topic sort of hipster ironic affectation). most of these i excuse with nostalgia.

movie: the rock (hans zimmer hyperbombast ftw!)

teevee series: brimstone (i can't not watch shows about the occult)

book: the elfstones of shannara by terry brooks (almost indefensible, frankly)

band: matchbox 20 (i have no fuckin' idea)

NOW YOU DO THE SAME PAPANGUSES. or just mock me instead! i like the attention!
Title: Re: the legitimately awful things you like
Post by: MrAngryFace on June 07, 2007, 04:15:54 PM
The Fall Guy APPARENTLY *glare*
Title: Re: the legitimately awful things you like
Post by: Phoenix Dark on June 07, 2007, 04:17:06 PM
Matchbox 20 vs The Beatles GO

Movie: See for yourself!
http://mupepe.com/forum/showthread.php?t=803

Books: The Bible

TV: the first Mortal Kombat live action series on WB

/thread
Title: Re: the legitimately awful things you like
Post by: Vizzys on June 07, 2007, 04:17:17 PM
music: Static x - I love wisconsin death trip / start a war, however most of their other albums are really shit

TV: anime lol

all part of beeing a teen~~
Title: Re: the legitimately awful things you like
Post by: Van Cruncheon on June 07, 2007, 04:17:40 PM
hahaha, i actually did not make this thread with the fall guy in mind! BUT NOW THAT YOU MENTION IT
Title: Re: the legitimately awful things you like
Post by: MrAngryFace on June 07, 2007, 04:17:53 PM
*glare*
Title: Re: the legitimately awful things you like
Post by: Cheebs on June 07, 2007, 04:18:05 PM
Matchbox 20 vs The Beatles GO

Movie: See for yourself!
http://mupepe.com/forum/showthread.php?t=803

Books: The Bible

TV: the first Mortal Kombat live action series on WB

/thread
you seriously give matilida a 10/10 when Blade Runner, 2001, & Unforgiven range from 6 to 6.5?
Title: Re: the legitimately awful things you like
Post by: BlackMage on June 07, 2007, 04:19:36 PM
movie: Dawn of the Dead Remake

teevee series: I'll watch Real World sometimes.

book: I only read books that are good, sorry.
 
music: Avril Lavigne (I KNOW)

video game: Spongebob squarepants: the movie
Title: Re: the legitimately awful things you like
Post by: MrAngryFace on June 07, 2007, 04:23:12 PM
Movie:
Over the Top - Sly Stallon Arm Wrestles to gain custody of his child.

Book:
Where the Red Fern Grows - Stupid emotionally manipulative story about a boy and his idiot 'coon hounds.


Music:
Jefferson Starship - COME ON! SAAARA! SAAAAAARRRRAA! (im so sorry)

TV:
The Fall Guy :(

Videogame:
EvilZone - Ugly shallow anime style fighting game for the PSOne
Title: Re: the legitimately awful things you like
Post by: Phoenix Dark on June 07, 2007, 04:23:15 PM
Matchbox 20 vs The Beatles GO

Movie: See for yourself!
http://mupepe.com/forum/showthread.php?t=803

Books: The Bible

TV: the first Mortal Kombat live action series on WB

/thread
you seriously give matilida a 10/10 when Blade Runner, 2001, & Unforgiven range from 6 to 6.5?

Haven't seen the movie in years so I'd have to re-rate it, but as a kid it was a 10/10. Up there with Toy Story in terms of classic cinema for children :bow

Blade Runner...I'll give it another chance. I was unfair.

Music: Hmmm...
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spoiler (click to show/hide)
As a kid I liked NSYNC and Britney Spears...and I borrowed a girl's CD of No Strings Attatched
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Title: Re: the legitimately awful things you like
Post by: TVC15 on June 07, 2007, 04:26:42 PM
Movie:  I enjoy tons of so bad its good cinema, but I don't think that counts.  Neither does all the shitty low budget horror.  Hmm, Time After Time?  Is that considered a bad movie?  I love that.

teevee:  I have a soft spot for trashy reality TV.  And 90210.  And if I am given free afternoons, I will rapidly get addicted to soap operas.  

Books:  Hahaha, Drinky likes Terry Brooks.  I'm not sure there's anything bad I like.  I like a lot of legit gothic writing, and some of that comes across as hokey and dated.  I kinda like Douglas Coupland, although he is kinda one note and hacky.  I wouldn't say I'm a fan, but if I were in an airport and one of his books were in the book shop. . .

band:  I have the entire Smashing Pumpkins library on my iPod, including bootlegs and rare shit.  Same goes for NIN.  Also got Jeezy and some REM.
Title: Re: the legitimately awful things you like
Post by: Cheebs on June 07, 2007, 04:27:28 PM


Haven't seen the movie in years so I'd have to re-rate it, but as a kid it was a 10/10. Up there with Toy Story in terms of classic cinema for children :bow
It if is indeed a "classic" up there with  Toy Story why has toy story's popularity remained consistant and is a dvd staple for all children while maltilda fell off the face of the earth with no one remembering it?

and TVC Time After Time is fucking awesome.
Title: Re: the legitimately awful things you like
Post by: Van Cruncheon on June 07, 2007, 04:28:38 PM
i don't like terry brooks -- even elfstones is legitimately terrible. i like it for reasons wholly unrelated to the novel itself. :-[
Title: Re: the legitimately awful things you like
Post by: Phoenix Dark on June 07, 2007, 04:29:02 PM
teevee:  I have a soft spot for trashy reality TV.  And 90210.  And if I am given free afternoons, I will rapidly get addicted to soap operas. 

This week I've been looking at this one soap that has fantasy elements; it has blown my mind. I turned it on as this blind priest tried to get this woman to confess her sins, and you could only see the back of her head. Her voice sounded evil, then she turned around and BAM SHE HAS A DEMENTED CLOWN MASK ON
Title: Re: the legitimately awful things you like
Post by: TVC15 on June 07, 2007, 04:29:38 PM

and TVC Time After Time is fucking awesome.

Is it?  For whatever reason I thought nobody liked it.
Title: Re: the legitimately awful things you like
Post by: TVC15 on June 07, 2007, 04:31:53 PM
teevee:  I have a soft spot for trashy reality TV.  And 90210.  And if I am given free afternoons, I will rapidly get addicted to soap operas. 

This week I've been looking at this one soap that has fantasy elements; it has blown my mind. I turned it on as this blind priest tried to get this woman to confess her sins, and you could only see the back of her head. Her voice sounded evil, then she turned around and BAM SHE HAS A DEMENTED CLOWN MASK ON

Was this Passions?
Title: Re: the legitimately awful things you like
Post by: CajoleJuice on June 07, 2007, 04:33:39 PM
Movie: The Rock is considered a bad movie?  :(

TV: King of Queens seems to be hated on quite a bit. I enjoy the reruns that I've seen.

Book: I used to read a bunch of Michael Crichton.

Band: I still listen to older Incubus once in a while.

Title: Re: the legitimately awful things you like
Post by: BlueTsunami on June 07, 2007, 04:34:34 PM
Movie:
Legend - Extremely cheesy to some but I love the cinematography and the simple story. Theres also nostalgia factor but still!

Book:
Great Expectations - I don't know if its liked or not but its really...girly...with emotions and stuff. Still struck a cord with me...omg....


Music:
Enigma - Is considered Gregorian Club Pop or something :lol I love the sound Cretu has with Enigma ever since I was in my early teens.

TV:
No lie, I actually like watching Yes Dear!...why? I don't know...maybe cause the petite mom is hot...maybe not...oh god no...

Videogame:
Xenogears...nuff said
Title: Re: the legitimately awful things you like
Post by: Van Cruncheon on June 07, 2007, 04:35:43 PM
"nobody liked it" doesn't mean it's bad; and conversely, quite a few people like matchbox 20. :-\

really, what i mean by "bad" is that you recognize it as utterly technically inferior or manufactured, but you like it because it preys on nostalgia or a fanboy quality you possess.
Title: Re: the legitimately awful things you like
Post by: TVC15 on June 07, 2007, 04:35:58 PM
What the FUCK!  How could you say Great fucking Expectations is awful!?!?!?!@/122/!/21?@12!?2??  I don't even LIKE Dickens much!
Title: Re: the legitimately awful things you like
Post by: Phoenix Dark on June 07, 2007, 04:37:01 PM
teevee:  I have a soft spot for trashy reality TV.  And 90210.  And if I am given free afternoons, I will rapidly get addicted to soap operas. 

This week I've been looking at this one soap that has fantasy elements; it has blown my mind. I turned it on as this blind priest tried to get this woman to confess her sins, and you could only see the back of her head. Her voice sounded evil, then she turned around and BAM SHE HAS A DEMENTED CLOWN MASK ON

Was this Passions?

Yup, I think that's the name. And there were three witche omg

[youtube=425,350]SZKBkeMkekw[/youtube]
OMG
Title: Re: the legitimately awful things you like
Post by: Himu on June 07, 2007, 04:37:23 PM
tv: I watch good tv, but I can admit I used to have a soft spot for The Real World.

games: Shenmue and Xenogears.

movie: I am a proud lover of "so bad it's good" movies. Street Fighter the movie ftw.

books: Harry Potter. It's just so damn charming.

music: Can't think of any bad music I listen to.
Title: Re: the legitimately awful things you like
Post by: Van Cruncheon on June 07, 2007, 04:38:20 PM
what is it with you black people and harry potter? jk rowling's never even seen a black person in her life!
Title: Re: the legitimately awful things you like
Post by: Phoenix Dark on June 07, 2007, 04:39:20 PM
what is it with you black people and harry potter? jk rowling's never even seen a black person in her life!

She used to be poor remember!
Title: Re: the legitimately awful things you like
Post by: Saint Cornelius on June 07, 2007, 04:39:27 PM
Nintendo and Dogma are my crosses to bear, I suppose
Title: Re: the legitimately awful things you like
Post by: TVC15 on June 07, 2007, 04:40:34 PM
what is it with you black people and harry potter? jk rowling's never even seen a black person in her life!

Au contraire, mon Drinky!  She was on the UK equivalent of welfare.  I am sure she had to go to the offices at least once.  
Title: Re: the legitimately awful things you like
Post by: Van Cruncheon on June 07, 2007, 04:40:43 PM
pd: so was jewel, and i don't see you humming "only kindness matters"
Title: Re: the legitimately awful things you like
Post by: Van Cruncheon on June 07, 2007, 04:41:11 PM
nintendo isn't bad, per se. dogma, though: yeah. :-\
Title: Re: the legitimately awful things you like
Post by: Saint Cornelius on June 07, 2007, 04:42:36 PM
i'm sorry, but the leet tastemakers at EB aren't going to keep me from enjoying what i like. bad enough that TVC almost ruined Heroes for me.
Title: Re: the legitimately awful things you like
Post by: Himu on June 07, 2007, 04:42:38 PM
what is it with you black people and harry potter? jk rowling's never even seen a black person in her life!

I DON'T KNOW  :'(
Title: Re: the legitimately awful things you like
Post by: Phoenix Dark on June 07, 2007, 04:42:45 PM
[youtube=425,350]dpbKu1nF8Co[/youtube]

Needs to be posted again. Justin's got the blues :'(
Title: Re: the legitimately awful things you like
Post by: Saint Cornelius on June 07, 2007, 04:43:36 PM
pd: so was jewel, and i don't see you humming "only kindness matters"


oh god. jewel is a CUNT.
Title: Re: the legitimately awful things you like
Post by: Human Snorenado on June 07, 2007, 04:44:16 PM
Movies:  Will Ferrell flicks.  Can't help it, I just think he's funny.

Books:  This is probably my strongest category.  I can't think of anything I read that's shameful or low-brow, to be honest.  I do read a lot of current events, political books, some of which are very poorly written but I think it's important to be informed.

TV:  24.   :-\

Music:  I have a pronounced weakness for cheesy 80's/late 70's shit.  Stuff like Total Eclipse of the Heart, Meatloaf, etc.  I like to sing it in my terrible voice.
Title: Re: the legitimately awful things you like
Post by: Phoenix Dark on June 07, 2007, 04:45:30 PM
pd: so was jewel, and i don't see you humming "only kindness matters"

I have all of Jewel's book actually
Title: Re: the legitimately awful things you like
Post by: BlueTsunami on June 07, 2007, 04:46:36 PM
What the FUCK!  How could you say Great fucking Expectations is awful!?!?!?!@/122/!/21?@12!?2??  I don't even LIKE Dickens much!

I don't know! I mean...I got my balls busted by people I actually know for liking the book. But its probably testosterone filled laughter. But yeah :-\
Title: Re: the legitimately awful things you like
Post by: Saint Cornelius on June 07, 2007, 04:50:37 PM
I have all of Jewel's book actually


You are NOT black.
Title: Re: the legitimately awful things you like
Post by: Mupepe on June 07, 2007, 04:58:10 PM
Yes, Dear is an awesome fucking television show.  It's hilarious.  So is King of Queens.
Title: Re: the legitimately awful things you like
Post by: MrAngryFace on June 07, 2007, 05:00:11 PM
Haha King of Queens, that shit is so manufactured. Its like it comes out of a fucking Sitcom Factory in China.
Title: Re: the legitimately awful things you like
Post by: Saint Cornelius on June 07, 2007, 05:00:20 PM
The only good King of Queens episodes are the ones that have Spence in it.
Title: Re: the legitimately awful things you like
Post by: Van Cruncheon on June 07, 2007, 05:03:33 PM
I have all of Jewel's book actually


You are NOT black.

srsly. jewel's book is pure bad vagina poetry.
Title: Re: the legitimately awful things you like
Post by: Van Cruncheon on June 07, 2007, 05:04:27 PM
Haha King of Queens, that shit is so manufactured. Its like it comes out of a fucking Sitcom Factory in China.

it's awful, but leah remini is smokin'. well, i thought she was until i discovered that she was a devout scientologist. :-\
Title: Re: the legitimately awful things you like
Post by: Phoenix Dark on June 07, 2007, 05:04:49 PM
I have all of Jewel's book actually


You are NOT black.

srsly. jewel's book is pure bad vagina poetry.

The savages are upon me
and I feel my flesh
Burn
beneath the teeth
of their indifference
Title: Re: the legitimately awful things you like
Post by: Mupepe on June 07, 2007, 05:06:28 PM
Haha King of Queens, that shit is so manufactured. Its like it comes out of a fucking Sitcom Factory in China.

it's awful, but leah remini is smokin'. well, i thought she was until i discovered that she was a devout scientologist. :-\
that just means she's probably a freak in the sack.
Title: Re: the legitimately awful things you like
Post by: Tauntaun on June 07, 2007, 05:08:35 PM
Videogame:
Xenogears...nuff said

good game  :-*
Title: Re: the legitimately awful things you like
Post by: Saint Cornelius on June 07, 2007, 05:10:24 PM
that just means she's probably a freak in the sack.


i hear scientologists find sex repulsive.
Title: Re: the legitimately awful things you like
Post by: Phoenix Dark on June 07, 2007, 05:11:08 PM
I am not from here,
my hair smells of the wind
and is full of constellations,
and I move about this world
with a healthy disbelief.
And I approach my days and my work
with vaporous consequence
a touch that is translucent,
but can violate stone.
Title: Re: the legitimately awful things you like
Post by: Saint Cornelius on June 07, 2007, 05:12:40 PM
seriously, what the fuck is that tripe? i scrawled doper lyrics on my peechee folders.
Title: Re: the legitimately awful things you like
Post by: Van Cruncheon on June 07, 2007, 05:13:10 PM
(http://www.leahremini.net/photogallery/Bold.jpg)
OT LEVEL WHAT
Title: Re: the legitimately awful things you like
Post by: Van Cruncheon on June 07, 2007, 05:13:53 PM
jesus, pd, that's ghastly. it can't even keep its metaphors straight -- it's just ostentatious random teenaged musings!
Title: Re: the legitimately awful things you like
Post by: bluemax on June 07, 2007, 05:14:52 PM
Videogame:
Xenogears...nuff said

good game  :-*

No its pretty much shit.

Movies: I've seen more b-movies than quality cinema that you guys watch. Its not that I'm like PD and think the classics are bad, they just don't entertain me as much as a lo grade zombie flick.

Music: I have Sublime on my iPod and I don't know why. Also the Catch 22 album about Communism.

Too lazy to think of other stuff.
Title: Re: the legitimately awful things you like
Post by: Phoenix Dark on June 07, 2007, 05:15:30 PM
jesus, pd, that's ghastly. it can't even keep its metaphors straight -- it's just ostentatious random teenaged musings!

Burn her eyes, without hope of understanding them.
Kiss her mouth, that you may fathom its strange tongue.
Indulge in her brown skin because it reminds you of mother.
Rape her mind, because it is not your own,
but so sweet, so familiar.
Like coming home to a native land
your pale and inbred hands can only faintly fathom.
Title: Re: the legitimately awful things you like
Post by: Mupepe on June 07, 2007, 05:15:37 PM
(http://www.leahremini.net/photogallery/Bold.jpg)
OT LEVEL WHAT
oh.my.god

you know kevin james has hit it.  

and sorry, king of queens is still hilarious.  spence and deacon make the show.

"she doesn't give it to you ONLY on your birthdays, right?"
"you'll see...."
Title: Re: the legitimately awful things you like
Post by: Cheebs on June 07, 2007, 05:25:16 PM
a RON HOWARD movie. And I adore it.  :-\

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Title: Re: the legitimately awful things you like
Post by: BlueTsunami on June 07, 2007, 05:27:31 PM
Haha King of Queens, that shit is so manufactured. Its like it comes out of a fucking Sitcom Factory in China.

it's awful, but leah remini is smokin'. well, i thought she was until i discovered that she was a devout scientologist. :-\

I discovered this recently too. It made me real sad. I wonder if her latin husband did this.
Title: Re: the legitimately awful things you like
Post by: Cheebs on June 07, 2007, 05:28:04 PM
Haha King of Queens, that shit is so manufactured. Its like it comes out of a fucking Sitcom Factory in China.

it's awful, but leah remini is smokin'. well, i thought she was until i discovered that she was a devout scientologist. :-\

I discovered this recently too. It made me real sad. I wonder if her latin husband did this.
other way around iirc
Title: Re: the legitimately awful things you like
Post by: BlueTsunami on June 07, 2007, 05:28:32 PM
Haha King of Queens, that shit is so manufactured. Its like it comes out of a fucking Sitcom Factory in China.

it's awful, but leah remini is smokin'. well, i thought she was until i discovered that she was a devout scientologist. :-\

I discovered this recently too. It made me real sad. I wonder if her latin husband did this.
other way around iirc

:( :( :(
Title: Re: the legitimately awful things you like
Post by: CajoleJuice on June 07, 2007, 05:34:53 PM
So many....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Scientologist_celebrities

:-\
Title: Re: the legitimately awful things you like
Post by: Saint Cornelius on June 07, 2007, 05:39:53 PM
I had to call it off with Catherine Bell because of that shit. My heart still aches  :'(
Title: Re: the legitimately awful things you like
Post by: CajoleJuice on June 07, 2007, 05:41:38 PM
I had to call it off with Catherine Bell because of that shit. My heart still aches  :'(

Yeah, looking over the list...maybe it's not THAT many, but Catherine Bell, Leah Remini and that hot middle eastern chick in Season 6 of 24...  :gloomy
Title: Re: the legitimately awful things you like
Post by: Cyanista on June 07, 2007, 05:43:30 PM
Sailor Moon

The Rocky Horror Picture Show


and omg I could never stop loving The Secret of the Unicorn Queen books.
Title: Re: the legitimately awful things you like
Post by: Saint Cornelius on June 07, 2007, 05:44:45 PM
Yeah, looking over the list...maybe it's not THAT many, but Catherine Bell, Leah Remini and that hot middle eastern chick in Season 6 of 24...  :gloomy


Laura Prepon too, but she's dead to me ever since she went blond.
Title: Re: the legitimately awful things you like
Post by: MrAngryFace on June 07, 2007, 05:44:49 PM
Curious George > *
Title: Re: the legitimately awful things you like
Post by: brawndolicious on June 07, 2007, 07:35:52 PM
games: I'm getting a wii.

books: I really like Wicked.  pretty meh book in some places.

TV: Heroes.

Movies: Well it changes a lot because if it's bad I won't like it anymore but I like Boondock Saints a little.

Music: I can't think of any bad music I like to listen to.
Title: Re: the legitimately awful things you like
Post by: TVC15 on June 07, 2007, 07:38:17 PM
Slaughterhouse-Five is a bad book?  Am Nintenho am distinguished mentally-challenged rererereconfirmed.
Title: Re: the legitimately awful things you like
Post by: CajoleJuice on June 07, 2007, 07:38:41 PM
Slaughterhouse-Five is a bad book?  Am Nintenho am distinguished mentally-challenged rererereconfirmed.

Wow.
Title: Re: the legitimately awful things you like
Post by: brawndolicious on June 07, 2007, 07:40:02 PM
I'll finish it but it's absolutely awful so far.  I don't get why this gets praise.  I know what the basic plot is about because somebody told me but it's sounding pretty predictable and pointless so far.
Title: Re: the legitimately awful things you like
Post by: brawndolicious on June 07, 2007, 07:43:00 PM
edit: I don't see anything good in slaughterhouse 5.  I'll edit that.
Title: Re: the legitimately awful things you like
Post by: etiolate on June 07, 2007, 07:43:39 PM
The Fall Guy is awesome >|
Title: Re: the legitimately awful things you like
Post by: tiesto on June 07, 2007, 08:00:24 PM
movie: Mallrats
teevee series: The War At Home
book: Xanth series
music: Eurodance
game: Mighty Bomb Jack
Title: Re: the legitimately awful things you like
Post by: warcock on June 07, 2007, 08:36:22 PM
movies: Big stallone fan, albeit aside from the original rocky his formulaic action induced clusterfucks are completely cinematically incompetent. Also something bothersome about my movie watching rhetoric is how much i appreciate passable mediocre movies. For one i believe Ridley Scott's works to be comparable eye candy as to laying my eyes on monica belluchi's silhouette at a distance of 2 meters. Black hawk down is simply put, visual poetry. An amalgam of the most elegant physical action frames a camera could possibly record. AND THE SOUND. It really elevates the medium.

Books: i enjoy some of RA salvatore's forgotten realm works. It is probably the only english fiction i read. My library is otherwise composed of books that are french or that i cant understand.

Music: The offspring. Although i must say that they "have" been musically significant as a counter point to all the h8 over here, it perhaps couldnt be labeled as positive... I totally love them though, their music makes want to act crazy and stupid.

Games: I only play the very best of games.

Title: Re: the legitimately awful things you like
Post by: TVC15 on June 07, 2007, 08:37:38 PM
Oh jesus fuck.
Title: Re: the legitimately awful things you like
Post by: warcock on June 07, 2007, 08:39:34 PM
I'll finish it but it's absolutely awful so far.  I don't get why this gets praise.  I know what the basic plot is about because somebody told me but it's sounding pretty predictable and pointless so far.

Aside from mark twain american literature is totally subpar, dont listen to them. Fool the declaration of independence is probably as far as verbose new world erudition goes and it is partially copy pasted from two treatise of government.
Title: Re: the legitimately awful things you like
Post by: Phoenix Dark on June 07, 2007, 08:41:28 PM
Black Hawk Down is extremely bad. A disgraceful taken on a serious subject. Let me set you straight, lost sheep. Mr. Scott has three good movies.

Alien: 10/10
Thelma and Lousise: 10/10
Gladiator: 7.5/10

You can forget about everything else for it is either appauling (Kingdom of Heaven) or treasonous (Black Hawk Down)
Title: Re: the legitimately awful things you like
Post by: TVC15 on June 07, 2007, 08:43:42 PM
I'll finish it but it's absolutely awful so far.  I don't get why this gets praise.  I know what the basic plot is about because somebody told me but it's sounding pretty predictable and pointless so far.

Aside from mark twain american literature is totally subpar, dont listen to them. Fool the declaration of independence is probably as far as verbose new world erudition goes and it is partially copy pasted from two treatise of government.

(http://www.historyplace.com/specials/calendar/docs-pix/faulkner.jpg)

"You are distinguished mentally-challenged.  Am Nintenho style."
Title: Re: the legitimately awful things you like
Post by: Cheebs on June 07, 2007, 08:44:36 PM
Black Hawk Down is extremely bad. A disgraceful taken on a serious subject. Let me set you straight, lost sheep. Mr. Scott has three good movies.

Alien: 10/10
Thelma and Lousise: 10/10
Gladiator: 7.5/10

You can forget about everything else for it is either appauling (Kingdom of Heaven) or treasonous (Black Hawk Down)
you havent seen KoH lol
Title: Re: the legitimately awful things you like
Post by: warcock on June 07, 2007, 08:47:07 PM
Black Hawk Down is extremely bad. A disgraceful taken on a serious subject. Let me set you straight, lost sheep. Mr. Scott has three good movies.

Alien: 10/10
Thelma and Lousise: 10/10
Gladiator: 7.5/10

You can forget about everything else for it is either appauling (Kingdom of Heaven) or treasonous (Black Hawk Down)

Kingdom of heaven's director's cut was fucking masterful and it also depicted accurately my feelings towards christian theology. Black hawk down was "treasonous"? Did you not see every fucking soldier racking a fucking K:D ratio of about 20:1. Also note in the credits how it goes on with the sentence

"During the raid 19 american soldiers sacrificed their lives and over 1000 somalies lost their lives."

Then they go on displaying the names of every soldier that died in memorium totally ignoring the fact that 1000 "skinnies" actually did DIE. If that does not spell pumpous imperialistic narcisism i do not know what does.
Title: Re: the legitimately awful things you like
Post by: Phoenix Dark on June 07, 2007, 08:49:40 PM
You're right, it's quite disgusting
Title: Re: the legitimately awful things you like
Post by: warcock on June 07, 2007, 08:52:23 PM
I'll finish it but it's absolutely awful so far.  I don't get why this gets praise.  I know what the basic plot is about because somebody told me but it's sounding pretty predictable and pointless so far.

Aside from mark twain american literature is totally subpar, dont listen to them. Fool the declaration of independence is probably as far as verbose new world erudition goes and it is partially copy pasted from two treatise of government.

(http://www.historyplace.com/specials/calendar/docs-pix/faulkner.jpg)

"You are distinguished mentally-challenged.  Am Nintenho style."

Dude if i was to post pictures of every significant French,english and german authors in the past 200 years the server's bandwith capacity would assplode. Quit wasting your time and move on to greener pasture! :P

"NEWTON INVENTED KALCULOUS!"
Title: Re: the legitimately awful things you like
Post by: Mupepe on June 07, 2007, 08:53:14 PM
F Scott Fitzgerald :bow

I love him.
Title: Re: the legitimately awful things you like
Post by: TVC15 on June 07, 2007, 08:55:32 PM
I'll finish it but it's absolutely awful so far.  I don't get why this gets praise.  I know what the basic plot is about because somebody told me but it's sounding pretty predictable and pointless so far.

Aside from mark twain american literature is totally subpar, dont listen to them. Fool the declaration of independence is probably as far as verbose new world erudition goes and it is partially copy pasted from two treatise of government.

(http://www.historyplace.com/specials/calendar/docs-pix/faulkner.jpg)

"You are distinguished mentally-challenged.  Am Nintenho style."

Dude if i was to post pictures of every significant French,english and german authors in the past 200 years the server's bandwith capacity would assplode. Quit wasting your time and move on to greener pasture! :P

"NEWTON INVENTED KALCULOUS!"

As far as novels go, Americans are second only to English authors.
Title: Re: the legitimately awful things you like
Post by: warcock on June 07, 2007, 08:58:47 PM
LAWL. French literature shits all over both.

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Title: Re: the legitimately awful things you like
Post by: Mupepe on June 07, 2007, 09:00:27 PM
LAWL. French literature shits all over both.

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Well I have to give it to French artists.  I've never seen so much emotion expressed with the word "ribbit".
Title: Re: the legitimately awful things you like
Post by: TVC15 on June 07, 2007, 09:00:55 PM
LAWL. French literature shits all over both.

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There aren't many great French novelists or dramatists.  There are a considerable number of good French poets (probably more than American poets, but both pale before the mass of great Brit poets).

If you want to get in a list war, I can rape you six ways from Sunday.
Title: Re: the legitimately awful things you like
Post by: warcock on June 07, 2007, 09:02:41 PM
Dude quit using 1900-2007 as your search engine restriction. The french single handedly sparked the enlightment era.
Title: Re: the legitimately awful things you like
Post by: Phoenix Dark on June 07, 2007, 09:03:31 PM
The French wrote books? I thought all they did was lose wars
Title: Re: the legitimately awful things you like
Post by: Flannel Boy on June 07, 2007, 09:07:24 PM
Dude quit using 1900-2007 as your search engine restriction. The french single handedly sparked the enlightment era.
Not really. The French were, more or less, the ones that carried the Enlightenment, but they were sparked by the Scientific Revolution and also the philosophy of John Locke, among others.
Title: Re: the legitimately awful things you like
Post by: Mupepe on June 07, 2007, 09:08:39 PM
I fucking hate John Locke.  All he ever does is fucking whine about destiny. 
Title: Re: the legitimately awful things you like
Post by: Van Cruncheon on June 07, 2007, 09:09:14 PM
voltaire, sartre, montaigne, camus, moliere, uhhhhhhhh

frogs make better philosophers and surrender monkeys
Title: Re: the legitimately awful things you like
Post by: CajoleJuice on June 07, 2007, 09:10:02 PM
(http://etext.library.adelaide.edu.au/o/orwell/george/orwell.jpg)

:bow
Title: Re: the legitimately awful things you like
Post by: Flannel Boy on June 07, 2007, 09:11:20 PM
I fucking hate John Locke.  All he ever does is fucking whine about destiny. 
I think you are 'Lost'.

voltaire, sartre, montaigne, camus, moliere, uhhhhhhhh

frogs make better philosphers and surrender monkeys
voltaire, sartre, montaigne, camus, moliere, uhhhhhhhh

frogs make better philosphers and surrender monkeys
Well, I dislike most 20th century French Philosophers. I think the English/Scots have had the best philosophers.

Title: Re: the legitimately awful things you like
Post by: TVC15 on June 07, 2007, 09:12:32 PM
Warcock is just trying to pretend to be elite.  I think America might even edge out the UK for best lit of the 20th century.  France?  Nobody gives a fuck about French lit.
Title: Re: the legitimately awful things you like
Post by: Flannel Boy on June 07, 2007, 09:16:31 PM
Occam
Burke
Hobbes
Hume
Locke
Bacon
Mill
Benthem
Russell
Moore
Austin
Ayer
Ryle
Strawson
Germany is out of the running because of Hegel
Title: Re: the legitimately awful things you like
Post by: warcock on June 07, 2007, 09:19:07 PM
I LOSE.
Title: Re: the legitimately awful things you like
Post by: Van Cruncheon on June 07, 2007, 09:19:36 PM
let me finger fuck you
Title: Re: the legitimately awful things you like
Post by: TVC15 on June 07, 2007, 09:28:58 PM
I want to fuck David Hume.  For whatever reason, I think David is a funny name for a philosopher.  I just think of that DAVE'S NOT HERE Cheech and Chong bit and stuff.
Title: Re: the legitimately awful things you like
Post by: Flannel Boy on June 07, 2007, 09:31:53 PM
I want to fuck David Hume.  For whatever reason, I think David is a funny name for a philosopher.  I just think of that DAVE'S NOT HERE Cheech and Chong bit and stuff.
I love his turban.

(http://www.smccd.edu/accounts/colombetti/hume.jpg)
Title: Re: the legitimately awful things you like
Post by: TVC15 on June 07, 2007, 09:33:52 PM
He kind of reminds me of my LOTRO character:

(http://www.indarktrees.com/pics/lotr/2.jpg)

except hume is not a magical hobbit and I am
Title: Re: the legitimately awful things you like
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 07, 2007, 09:36:21 PM
I want to fuck David Hume.  For whatever reason, I think David is a funny name for a philosopher.  I just think of that DAVE'S NOT HERE Cheech and Chong bit and stuff.
I love his turban.

(http://www.smccd.edu/accounts/colombetti/hume.jpg)

 :lol
Title: Re: the legitimately awful things you like
Post by: Flannel Boy on June 07, 2007, 09:42:08 PM
Are you laughing at Hume?  :maf
Title: Re: the legitimately awful things you like
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 07, 2007, 09:54:51 PM
Are you laughing at Hume?  :maf

I am.  If he were black and a woman I would ask him to make me pancakes!


I like his shirt though. 
Title: Re: the legitimately awful things you like
Post by: Phoenix Dark on June 07, 2007, 09:56:08 PM
Gotta cover up them hair rollers somehow!
Title: Re: the legitimately awful things you like
Post by: ToxicAdam on June 07, 2007, 10:36:55 PM

book: the elfstones of shannara by terry brooks (almost indefensible, frankly)


Holy shit, I think thats worse than the fact that I love 'The Wizards and the Warriors' by Hugh Cook.


I think I have the worst taste in television here. I watch a lot of reality tv (American Idol, Next Top Model, Big Brother, Survivor). America's Next Top Model being the most embarassing one.

Title: Re: the legitimately awful things you like
Post by: TVC15 on June 08, 2007, 12:38:07 AM

book: the elfstones of shannara by terry brooks (almost indefensible, frankly)


Holy shit, I think thats worse than the fact that I love 'The Wizards and the Warriors' by Hugh Cook.


I think I have the worst taste in television here. I watch a lot of reality tv (American Idol, Next Top Model, Big Brother, Survivor). America's Next Top Model being the most embarassing one.



That's. . .my favorite one.  I think it peaked in the first or second season, but it is always trashy enough.
Title: Re: the legitimately awful things you like
Post by: FlameOfCallandor on June 08, 2007, 12:55:04 AM
I find a guilty pleasure in the wayne's brother's humor.
Title: Re: the legitimately awful things you like
Post by: Stocky on June 08, 2007, 01:22:21 AM
Movie:
The Seven Year Itch

Book:
Eyes of The Dragon

Music:
Nelly

TV:
Cribs

Game:
Sneak King
Title: Re: the legitimately awful things you like
Post by: Cyanista on June 08, 2007, 01:23:16 AM
Eyes of the Dragon was a good book.  WTH.
Title: Re: the legitimately awful things you like
Post by: brawndolicious on June 08, 2007, 02:58:29 AM
Aside from mark twain american literature is totally subpar, dont listen to them. Fool the declaration of independence is probably as far as verbose new world erudition goes and it is partially copy pasted from two treatise of government.
yeah mark's pretty down but I believe people here said it was a good book but this is the farthest thing from good literature.  I KNOW what to pay attention to in the story and it's boring me to tears.
Title: Re: the legitimately awful things you like
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 08, 2007, 03:07:56 AM
Besides anime I have no bad tastes  :tophat
Title: Re: the legitimately awful things you like
Post by: Human Snorenado on June 08, 2007, 03:43:56 AM
Aside from mark twain american literature is totally subpar, dont listen to them. Fool the declaration of independence is probably as far as verbose new world erudition goes and it is partially copy pasted from two treatise of government.

yeah mark's pretty down but I believe people here said it was a good book but this is the farthest thing from good literature.  I KNOW what to pay attention to in the story and it's boring me to tears.

You should pretty much just be shot.
Title: Re: the legitimately awful things you like
Post by: TVC15 on June 08, 2007, 03:45:41 AM
Aside from mark twain american literature is totally subpar, dont listen to them. Fool the declaration of independence is probably as far as verbose new world erudition goes and it is partially copy pasted from two treatise of government.
yeah mark's pretty down but I believe people here said it was a good book but this is the farthest thing from good literature.  I KNOW what to pay attention to in the story and it's boring me to tears.

You're basically distinguished mentally-challenged though, as you have proven many, many times over.
Title: Re: the legitimately awful things you like
Post by: Phoenix Dark on June 08, 2007, 04:04:28 AM
Mark Twain is no RL Stein!
Title: Re: the legitimately awful things you like
Post by: CajoleJuice on June 08, 2007, 04:05:05 AM
Mark Twain is no RL Stein!

*Drops Xbox*
Title: Re: the legitimately awful things you like
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 08, 2007, 04:07:27 AM
Some one needs to teach me about American lit; I've read of mice and men, which was good, and tried to read Twains translations of joan of ark, which wasn't so great, thats all I know about out. 

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Title: Re: the legitimately awful things you like
Post by: TVC15 on June 08, 2007, 04:10:15 AM
Read some Papa.  You can't hate Hemmingway.  A man's man.
Title: Re: the legitimately awful things you like
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 08, 2007, 04:10:59 AM
Read some Papa.  You can't hate Hemmingway.  A man's man.

Should I start with Bell or Oldman? 
Title: Re: the legitimately awful things you like
Post by: Phoenix Dark on June 08, 2007, 04:13:22 AM
Some one needs to teach me about American lit; I've read of mice and men, which was good, and tried to read Twains translations of joan of ark, which wasn't so great, thats all I know about out. 

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Here's my list:

Huck Finn - Mark Twain, great writer and inventor of sarcasm and that literary phenomena where you say something crazy and don't mean it, but are just trying to show how crazy something is.

The Bible - Jesus, one of the greater white American authors. Invented the question mark

Battlefield Earth - L Ron Hubbard, the famed author and favorite artist of our next president, Mitt Romney

Title: Re: the legitimately awful things you like
Post by: TVC15 on June 08, 2007, 04:17:13 AM
Read some Papa.  You can't hate Hemmingway.  A man's man.

Should I start with Bell or Oldman? 

Between the two, Old Man and the Sea.  He has a fairly distinct writing style, and Old Man at least doesn't feature a ton of characters or dialogue, and it is one of the ones thatmost people have read due to its brevity.  All of his novels are great, and he was also an accomplished short story writer.  He has a shitton of short stories, and I honestly don't know where to tell you to start there.
Title: Re: the legitimately awful things you like
Post by: CajoleJuice on June 08, 2007, 04:17:40 AM
Some one needs to teach me about American lit; I've read of mice and men, which was good, and tried to read Twains translations of joan of ark, which wasn't so great, thats all I know about out. 

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British  :heartbeat :heartbeat :heartbeat Dickens  :-*
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Here's my list:

Huck Finn - Mark Twain, great writer and inventor of sarcasm and that literary phenomena where you say something crazy and don't mean it, but are just trying to show how crazy something is.

The Bible - Jesus, one of the greater white American authors. Invented the question mark

Battlefield Earth - L Ron Hubbard, the famed author and favorite artist of our next president, Mitt Romney



Don't forget

(http://www.salon.com/mwt/feature/2006/06/02/maddox_qa/cover.jpg)
Title: Re: the legitimately awful things you like
Post by: TVC15 on June 08, 2007, 04:20:30 AM
Steinbeck is also really worthwhile.  Not as consistent as Hemmingway, overall, but his subject matter was more varied.

I'd like to recommend Faulkner right off the bat, but he is an incredibly talented, difficult writer, and I have a feeling that one should have a fairly nice understanding of 19th century American history before getting into his classics.  Faulkner is, by a very very wide margin, the best American writer in the country's history.
Title: Re: the legitimately awful things you like
Post by: etiolate on June 08, 2007, 04:21:44 AM
I like Steinback's shorts about the California valley.
Title: Re: the legitimately awful things you like
Post by: CajoleJuice on June 08, 2007, 04:23:55 AM
What would you recommend first out of Faulkner's works, TVC? I'm fairly certain The Sound and the Fury is his most famous, right?
Title: Re: the legitimately awful things you like
Post by: Fragamemnon on June 08, 2007, 04:26:31 AM
Movie:

Waterworld/Postman - I liked both of these movies, especially the latter. I can't get enough post-apoc or Kevin Costner, apparently.

Books:

Shitty Harry Turtledove alt history and David Weber space opera. Also, Glen Cook's Black Company stuff-fuck, the loose video game adaptation (Myth) was better told. I read them all and liked it anyway.

Music:

Secret Garden (new age duo). It's formulaic, sometimes poorly executed genre stuff and I love it. Why on earth I listen to that alongside late 80s-90s LA punk and british shoegazer is beyond me, I think I got my wires crossed somewhere in high school.

TV:

never really watched too much TV in my life. 24 is pretty formulatic and shitty, but it's fun and I've seen a few seasons on DVD.

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I'd like to recommend Faulkner right off the bat, but he is an incredibly talented, difficult writer, and I have a feeling that one should have a fairly nice understanding of 19th century American history before getting into his classics.  Faulkner is, by a very very wide margin, the best American writer in the country's history.

Totally agree. Also, 19th century US history is also the only really interesting period of US history outside of the immediate post-independence era, so brushing up on that is an added bonus.
Title: Re: the legitimately awful things you like
Post by: TVC15 on June 08, 2007, 04:32:26 AM
What would you recommend first out of Faulkner's works, TVC? I'm fairly certain The Sound and the Fury is his most famous, right?

The Sound and the Fury may be his best.  There are other contenders, like a Light in August, As I Lay Dying, and Absalom Absalom, but I think Sound and the Fury wins out due to its whole Rashomon-y four different storytellers thing, couple with four drastically different styles.  Once you finish the book, and finally piece everything together, it feels like you, the reader, have accomplished something.  The first 80 or so pages of the novel are a total gauntlet.  Then there's a brief reprieve before things get crazy again in the second quarter.  The last half of the novel goes down a bit easier, but it's a challenge to get there, and it all means nothing if you didn't decipher the first half.

Faulkner, like most early 20th century American writers, is best started via short stories. A Rose for Emily is probably taught in every US fiction class that covers short stories.  As far as novels go, Sanctuary is a good starting point, even if Faulkner hated the book.  It is flashy, and also gets readers accustomed to Faulkner's downright biblical writing style.

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Also, 19th century US history is also the only really interesting period of US history outside of the immediate post-independence era, so brushing up on that is an added bonus.

I agree 100%>  I find it incredibly strange that 19th century US history is basically skipped over in high school, aside from the Civil War.  We all know the We Are the Mediocre Presidents bit from the Simpsons, but I doubt many Americans can say why they were mediocre, or indeed give any defining details of what was going on during their terms. 
Title: Re: the legitimately awful things you like
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on June 08, 2007, 04:35:24 AM
I've never been able to read Faulkner. I always get like 60 pages into his novels then lose interest. The whole shared universe thing is kind of offputting. Any suggestions for a good starting point?
Title: Re: the legitimately awful things you like
Post by: CajoleJuice on June 08, 2007, 04:38:10 AM
I've never been able to read Faulkner. I always get like 60 pages into his novels then lose interest. The whole shared universe thing is kind of offputting. Any suggestions for a good starting point?

I just asked that and he answered.  :P

Thanks for the info, TVC.
Title: Re: the legitimately awful things you like
Post by: TVC15 on June 08, 2007, 04:41:02 AM
I've never been able to read Faulkner. I always get like 60 pages into his novels then lose interest. The whole shared universe thing is kind of offputting. Any suggestions for a good starting point?

There's not really a shared universe.  Some of the novels take place in the same location, and some of them have overlapping characters, but it's not like there's a certain order you have to read anything in. 

I'd recommend The Sound and the Fury first.  I know you like reading, Patel, and you can always use the challenge factor to motivate yourself.
Title: Re: the legitimately awful things you like
Post by: Error Macro on June 08, 2007, 04:48:13 AM
I think As I Lay Dying is more straightforward and accessible, but you can't go wrong either way.
Title: Re: the legitimately awful things you like
Post by: etiolate on June 08, 2007, 07:46:59 AM
I just finished reading Slaughterhouse 5 and enjoyed it.  Odd storytelling style.  I started off reading it, not being all that enthralled with the book and then you're in the middle of Billy Pilgrim's ramblings and you're like "how did I get here?", but that sort of mirrors Billy Pilgrim, so it's cool.
Title: Re: the legitimately awful things you like
Post by: ferrarimanf355 on June 08, 2007, 10:19:55 AM
I think that Days of Thunder is an awesome movie. Top 3, along with Talladega Nights and Snakes on a Plane. I try to act sophisticated at parties, talking about Ayn Rand, Adam Smith, and all that, but when I'm asked for my favorite movie, I say Days of Thunder. And all of the sophisticates look at me like I'm distinguished mentally-challenged. And I quote the "rubbin's racin'" line, and they assume that I had a lobotomy.
























I never saw Top Gun, though. I've been meaning to do that...  :-*
I just finished reading Slaughterhouse 5 and enjoyed it.  Odd storytelling style.  I started off reading it, not being all that enthralled with the book and then you're in the middle of Billy Pilgrim's ramblings and you're like "how did I get here?", but that sort of mirrors Billy Pilgrim, so it's cool.
I had to read that in grade school, but I never finished it. I've always been meaning to pick it up again, though...
Title: Re: the legitimately awful things you like
Post by: CajoleJuice on June 08, 2007, 12:07:51 PM
I think that Days of Thunder is an awesome movie. Top 3, along with Talladega Nights and Snakes on a Plane.

I think you just won the thread. Holy shit.
Title: Re: the legitimately awful things you like
Post by: brawndolicious on June 08, 2007, 02:45:26 PM
You should pretty much just be shot.
the story has good parts and if you reconstructed it, it could make a film worth watching.  the way it was written is pointless and there's really nothing for the reader to get out of it.  it's a gimmicky book but the whole aliens idea was good and they could have used that in a much better way.  I thought you'd hear about the aliens at the end, not the first 50 pages.
Title: Re: the legitimately awful things you like
Post by: Bloodwake on June 08, 2007, 03:44:20 PM
Everything, according to this elitist forum.

 :P
Title: Re: the legitimately awful things you like
Post by: TVC15 on June 08, 2007, 04:52:35 PM
You should pretty much just be shot.
the story has good parts and if you reconstructed it, it could make a film worth watching.  the way it was written is pointless and there's really nothing for the reader to get out of it.  it's a gimmicky book but the whole aliens idea was good and they could have used that in a much better way.  I thought you'd hear about the aliens at the end, not the first 50 pages.

How is the way it is written pointless?  The way it is written is structured after how the tralfamadorians view/experience time.  This is even said in the book, I believe.
Title: Re: the legitimately awful things you like
Post by: brawndolicious on June 08, 2007, 07:22:27 PM
which would be impressive in a movie because it could show the way a reader would interpret what's going on and contrast that with the alien's philosohpies.  that's not really something the WORDS in the book do.
Title: Re: the legitimately awful things you like
Post by: aoi tsuki on June 08, 2007, 08:22:26 PM
tv: Melrose Place
movies: motherfuckingTRON
music: Linkin Park (occasionally)
food: liver pudding and skins (although skins in the south are far superior the the pork-flavored styrofoam you get in the north)
women: crazy ones
Title: Re: the legitimately awful things you like
Post by: TVC15 on June 08, 2007, 08:30:10 PM
which would be impressive in a movie because it could show the way a reader would interpret what's going on and contrast that with the alien's philosohpies.  that's not really something the WORDS in the book do.

Most people think it works fine.  You're just simple-minded and probably shouldn't be talking about books.
Title: Re: the legitimately awful things you like
Post by: brawndolicious on June 08, 2007, 08:32:39 PM
I'm simple minded because I think this simplifies it's whole concept too much?
Title: Re: the legitimately awful things you like
Post by: TVC15 on June 08, 2007, 08:39:46 PM
I'm simple minded because I think this simplifies it's whole concept too much?

You're simple-minded because you prefer pictures when words do the job better than a movie could.  Here's a hint:  There is a S5 movie.  It sucks ass.  Because its structure is impossible to translate into a movie. 
Title: Re: the legitimately awful things you like
Post by: brawndolicious on June 08, 2007, 08:46:20 PM
I'm saying take the ideas on how life and death works to them and restructure the whole story (maybe even leave out WW2) to make a story that actually works.  if what he says about trying to write a war story is true in the first chapter, then he's an idiot if this is the book he got out of it.  he could have done it much better.
Title: Re: the legitimately awful things you like
Post by: TVC15 on June 08, 2007, 10:34:58 PM
Listen, the story DOES WORK.  Just because you didn't like doesn't mean it DEFINITIVELY DOES NOT WORK.  Believe it or not, the book is widely acclaimed, not just by critics, but by tons and tons of readers out there.  The defect, my friend, is with you.
Title: Re: the legitimately awful things you like
Post by: Mandark on June 08, 2007, 11:03:16 PM
Music: The Doors, lots of old-school rap

Film: Wild Things.  This was probably my ideal movie at 15.

Lit: The Spencer novels.  I bought an armful of paperbacks one summer and it completely exposed how cookie-cutter they are.  Still, really smooth reads.

TV: Muppets and House.
Title: Re: the legitimately awful things you like
Post by: Van Cruncheon on June 08, 2007, 11:04:20 PM
House is fuckin' good, though!
Title: Re: the legitimately awful things you like
Post by: CajoleJuice on June 08, 2007, 11:05:02 PM
I fail to see how House is "legitimately awful." Sure, it's formulaic as hell, but it's a damn good TV show!
Title: Re: the legitimately awful things you like
Post by: CajoleJuice on June 08, 2007, 11:05:27 PM
You beat me Drinky, but I don't feel like editing.
Title: Re: the legitimately awful things you like
Post by: Van Cruncheon on June 08, 2007, 11:07:04 PM
i'd let hugh laurie stucker my pucker, fer sure.
Title: Re: the legitimately awful things you like
Post by: Mandark on June 08, 2007, 11:19:01 PM
I love House, but it's not a well-crafted show or anything.  It has one actually well-written and well-acted character, and some decent medical puzzles (which are relying more and more on Agatha Christie resolutions).

The character stuff is just as super-formulaic as the medical stuff.  I mean, how many scenes do we need where House and Wilson take turns analyzing the other's motive for the last line of dialog?  I'm not saying the whole writing staff is made up of robots, but at least 40%.


Oh, add Star Trek: TNG to my list too.  That show has NOT aged well, but I tend not to change the channel when it's on.
Title: Re: the legitimately awful things you like
Post by: etiolate on June 08, 2007, 11:25:26 PM
I think TNG has aged well, just because of the characters and actors.
Title: Re: the legitimately awful things you like
Post by: etiolate on June 09, 2007, 12:01:18 AM
movie: tromaville stuff

tv: some of the scifi dramas that last like one season, invisible man, dresden files, etc

book: I'm too selective with books to have trash yet

games: fifa soccer is thought of as the inferior soccer game, but I've played my gc one raw.  I also like Eighting fighters like first Bloody Roar on PS2 and the GC one. I think they make the Naruto/One Piece fighters too.

None of it is really awful except tromavilla movies.
Title: Re: the legitimately awful things you like
Post by: TVC15 on June 09, 2007, 12:01:56 AM
Star Trek TNG is just as campy as the original series now, except instead of wacky campy you get (mostly) dated serious PC stuff.
Title: Re: the legitimately awful things you like
Post by: etiolate on June 09, 2007, 12:03:43 AM
I know TNG is a low slower in comparison to modern scifi, but I was watching the 3 Lights episode the other day and it's still great.  Didn't feel campy to me.
Title: Re: the legitimately awful things you like
Post by: brawndolicious on June 09, 2007, 01:02:32 AM
Listen, the story DOES WORK.  Just because you didn't like doesn't mean it DEFINITIVELY DOES NOT WORK.  Believe it or not, the book is widely acclaimed, not just by critics, but by tons and tons of readers out there.  The defect, my friend, is with you.
A. I am trying to give a very "unique" perspective only to piss people off.
B. I picked up the book for that reason.  Think about that.
C. I don't think it worked at all.
Title: Re: the legitimately awful things you like
Post by: ferrarimanf355 on June 09, 2007, 01:11:42 AM
I think that Days of Thunder is an awesome movie. Top 3, along with Talladega Nights and Snakes on a Plane.

I think you just won the thread. Holy shit.
Hey, it's got pre-crazy Tom Cruise and some great racing action.  :-*
Title: Re: the legitimately awful things you like
Post by: TVC15 on June 09, 2007, 01:35:25 AM
Listen, the story DOES WORK.  Just because you didn't like doesn't mean it DEFINITIVELY DOES NOT WORK.  Believe it or not, the book is widely acclaimed, not just by critics, but by tons and tons of readers out there.  The defect, my friend, is with you.

C. I don't think it worked at all.

Because you are functionally illiterate.
Title: Re: the legitimately awful things you like
Post by: brawndolicious on June 09, 2007, 01:45:23 AM
Because you are functionally illiterate.
no the reasons I gave actually made sense.  putting them in this thread made no sense.  that would be a point against my common sense, politeness, etc. but not against my literacy.
Title: Re: the legitimately awful things you like
Post by: TVC15 on June 09, 2007, 02:02:03 AM
Because you are functionally illiterate.
no the reasons I gave actually made sense.  putting them in this thread made no sense.  that would be a point against my common sense, politeness, etc. but not against my literacy.

You made no points about the book that made sense.
Title: Re: the legitimately awful things you like
Post by: brawndolicious on June 09, 2007, 02:12:09 AM
not in this thread, no.  If I actually made a thread explaining the problems I found throughout the book because of the way it was written then it would make sense.  I'm saying that it took an idea about life and death and rather than look for a way to explain it using literature, it tried to make a book that had aliens, WW2, and a optometrist.  there's better ways to explain life and death.  you really have a lot more freedom.
Title: Re: the legitimately awful things you like
Post by: TVC15 on June 09, 2007, 02:22:16 AM
Jesus fuck, I give up.  You are like using some sort of moon language or something.
Title: Re: the legitimately awful things you like
Post by: MrAngryFace on June 09, 2007, 02:25:22 AM
House is Matlock for this generation, which is fine, cause I loved Matlock too.
Title: Re: the legitimately awful things you like
Post by: brawndolicious on June 09, 2007, 02:32:54 AM
Jesus fuck, I give up.  You are like using some sort of moon language or something.
moon, my ass.
Title: Re: the legitimately awful things you like
Post by: Mandark on June 09, 2007, 02:38:05 AM
House is Matlock for this generation, which is fine, cause I loved Matlock too.

MAF is old before his time.


Are You Being Served? gets thrown on to my pile, too.
Title: Re: the legitimately awful things you like
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 09, 2007, 02:40:15 AM
Jesus fuck, I give up.  You are like using some sort of moon language or something.
moon, my ass.

Was that a pun?   :lol
Title: Re: the legitimately awful things you like
Post by: brawndolicious on June 09, 2007, 02:43:57 AM
no not really.
Title: Re: the legitimately awful things you like
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 09, 2007, 02:50:46 AM
no not really.

Well I found it funny.   
Title: Re: the legitimately awful things you like
Post by: Phoenix Dark on June 09, 2007, 02:51:26 AM
House is Matlock for this generation, which is fine, cause I loved Matlock too.

Don't forget Murder She Wrote!