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General => The Superdeep Borehole => Topic started by: Madrun Badrun on June 08, 2007, 08:32:06 PM

Title: Whiteman make a reading list.
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 08, 2007, 08:32:06 PM: I will then try and read it. Your favorite books or books you think should be read.
Title: Re: Whiteman make a reading list.
Post by: Flannel Boy on June 08, 2007, 08:47:49 PM: Quote from: Father_Mike on June 08, 2007, 08:32:06 PM
I will then try and read it. Your favorite books or books you think should be read.
So you will read the list? :P
Title: Re: Whiteman make a reading list.
Post by: Phoenix Dark on June 08, 2007, 09:15:09 PM: RL Stein!
Title: Re: Whiteman make a reading list.
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 08, 2007, 09:37:57 PM: Quote from: Malek: King of Kings on June 08, 2007, 08:47:49 PM
Quote from: Father_Mike on June 08, 2007, 08:32:06 PM
I will then try and read it. Your favorite books or books you think should be read.
So you will read the list? :P

Not will, but "try" -- as the titles of the books whiteman likes might be hard words. :dur

Answer my PM BTW.
Title: Re: Whiteman make a reading list.
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 08, 2007, 09:38:56 PM: Quote from: Billy Rygar on June 08, 2007, 09:07:16 PM
What kind of books do you like?

That doesn't matter as I want to try and venture out from what I normally read.
Title: Re: Whiteman make a reading list.
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 08, 2007, 09:46:18 PM: Quote from: Billy Rygar on June 08, 2007, 09:39:52 PM
Quote from: Father_Mike on June 08, 2007, 09:38:56 PM
Quote from: Billy Rygar on June 08, 2007, 09:07:16 PM
What kind of books do you like?

That doesn't matter as I want to try and venture out from what I normally read.
Kind of hard if no one knows what you normally read.

Thats why I asked whiteman his favorites, so my taste doesn't matter only his.

I love epic poetry, I'm digging the philosophy I'm reading now, actually I like most none fiction stuff. I mostly read "classics".
Title: Re: Whiteman make a reading list.
Post by: CajoleJuice on June 08, 2007, 09:53:10 PM: Epic poetry? Isn't that defined by The Odyssey and The Iliad? Have you read those?
Title: Re: Whiteman make a reading list.
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 08, 2007, 09:56:14 PM: lol, yes I've read those a long time ago.
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Post by: CajoleJuice on June 08, 2007, 09:57:33 PM: Just making sure. :P
Title: Re: Whiteman make a reading list.
Post by: TVC15 on June 08, 2007, 10:30:09 PM: Give me a day or so to decide how I want to do this.
Title: Re: Whiteman make a reading list.
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 08, 2007, 10:34:56 PM: Sure. I wont be getting anything for a week or two anyways.

also I'm already getting less than zero.
Title: Re: Whiteman make a reading list.
Post by: Flannel Boy on June 08, 2007, 10:54:52 PM: Quote from: Father_Mike on June 08, 2007, 09:37:57 PM
Answer my PM BTW.

What is the will to power?
Well, Nietzsche was heavily influenced by Schopenhauer’s notion of the will. For Schopenhauer the overriding concern of the will is survival; the will to live. Nietzsche disagrees with him and believes it is the will to power. What he means exactly is not exactly clear. However, he is not talking about simple power over others (like the Nazis interpreted). For Nietzsche, the will to power is a life-affirming drive. The will to power is a force which is creative, energizing, and about overcoming various obstacles; a force which is responsible for all great human accomplishes. So, for Nietzsche, an artist creating something would be displaying a will to power.

As for my life
Interview went poorly.
Got my last rejection letter (Queen's)
Title: Re: Whiteman make a reading list.
Post by: CajoleJuice on June 08, 2007, 10:56:51 PM: Malek :(
Title: Re: Whiteman make a reading list.
Post by: Flannel Boy on June 08, 2007, 10:58:25 PM: Quote from: CajoleJuice on June 08, 2007, 10:56:51 PM
Malek :(
I also asked a girl out. She agreed to go out with me, but cancelled later.

Oddly, I haven't had a drink in two weeks.
Title: Re: Whiteman make a reading list.
Post by: CajoleJuice on June 08, 2007, 11:03:13 PM: I might have a prospect. We'll see. :-*

:-\
Title: Re: Whiteman make a reading list.
Post by: drozmight on June 08, 2007, 11:05:26 PM: I'll probably read the books on the list too. The last book I read is Invisible Monsters by Chuck Palahnuk (spelled right?). The fight club dude.
Title: Re: Whiteman make a reading list.
Post by: Flannel Boy on June 08, 2007, 11:09:29 PM: Quote from: CajoleJuice on June 08, 2007, 11:03:13 PM
I might have a prospect. We'll see. :-*

:-\
We will. :-\

Quote from: drozmight on June 08, 2007, 11:05:26 PM
I'll probably read the books on the list too. The last book I read is Invisible Monsters by Chuck Palahnuk (spelled right?). The fight club dude.

I won't read any of the books on the list as I'm trying to juggle too many as it is. Though, without a social life and without a job, maybe I can manage.
Title: Re: Whiteman make a reading list.
Post by: CajoleJuice on June 08, 2007, 11:10:38 PM: I'll probably try to read as many of them as I can.
Title: Re: Whiteman make a reading list.
Post by: Flannel Boy on June 08, 2007, 11:12:02 PM: Quote from: CajoleJuice on June 08, 2007, 11:10:38 PM
I'll probably try to read as many of them as I can.
I better see Voltaire on that list. >:(
Title: Re: Whiteman make a reading list.
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 08, 2007, 11:15:43 PM: Sorry about that Malek, why did the girl cancel? :(
What are you reading now?

And I still don't think I grasp the concept of power being primal, lol, hopefully it's more illustrated in his latter books.
Title: Re: Whiteman make a reading list.
Post by: Flannel Boy on June 08, 2007, 11:28:16 PM: Quote from: Father_Mike on June 08, 2007, 11:15:43 PM
Sorry about that Malek, why did the girl cancel? :(
What are you reading now?

And I still don't think I grasp the concept of power being primal, lol, hopefully it's more illustrated in his latter books.

Going to the cottage with friends.

Social and Political Philosophy: A contemporary introduction, the McGraw Handbook of English, some Russell essays.
Title: Re: Whiteman make a reading list.
Post by: tiesto on June 09, 2007, 10:42:09 AM: I like alt. history books and books about Africa... any recommendations? Not just TVC, anybody can feel free to reply. I haven't picked up a good book in a while.
Title: Re: Whiteman make a reading list.
Post by: FlameOfCallandor on June 09, 2007, 12:55:56 PM: (http://www.souloflife.com/beach.jpg)
Title: Re: Whiteman make a reading list.
Post by: Mr. Gundam on June 09, 2007, 11:44:58 PM: My summer reading list is comprised of Zimbardo's new book, Harry Potter 7, and a ton of books by people who regularly contribute to This American Life.

I'm a total NPR nerd.
Title: Re: Whiteman make a reading list.
Post by: Ichirou on June 10, 2007, 06:31:21 AM: Father_Mike, I will make you a truly awesome reading list if you want. First you should start by reading Blood Meridian.

(http://g-ec2.images-amazon.com/images/I/41RmcHSRGeL._SS500_.jpg)

Will you take up my challenge? If you do, I will write up an incredible list sometime this week.
Title: Re: Whiteman make a reading list.
Post by: TVC15 on June 10, 2007, 06:39:05 AM: That probably would have been on my list, too, but I have no idea if it would be too difficult for him. That's some pretty difficult fiction.
Title: Re: Whiteman make a reading list.
Post by: Himu on June 10, 2007, 06:41:23 AM: I want a reading list as well.
Title: Re: Whiteman make a reading list.
Post by: Ichirou on June 10, 2007, 06:44:30 AM: My preliminary list, if he were to take up my challenge:

Blood Meridian, by Cormac McCarthy

As I Lay Dying, by William Faulkner

Red Harvest, by Dashiell Hammett

The Crying of Lot 49, by Thomas Pynchon

Jude the Obscure, by Thomas Hardy

Tristram Shandy, by Laurence Sterne

The Female Quixote, by Charlotte Lennox

Pedro Páramo, by Juan Rulfo

Chronicle of a Death Foretold (Cronica de una Muerte Anunciada), by Gabriel Garcia Marquez
Title: Re: Whiteman make a reading list.
Post by: BlackMage on June 10, 2007, 11:51:14 AM: I'm down with this topic. White Man has crazy taste! Plus, I need to read more.
Title: Re: Whiteman make a reading list.
Post by: CajoleJuice on June 10, 2007, 11:55:33 AM: I've seen Blood Meridian come up many a time...I think that just might be the next book I read.
Title: Re: Whiteman make a reading list.
Post by: Ichirou on June 10, 2007, 12:04:08 PM: Quote from: BlackMage on June 10, 2007, 11:51:14 AM
I'm down with this topic. White Man has crazy taste! Plus, I need to read more.

What about my recommendations, babycakes? :D
Title: Re: Whiteman make a reading list.
Post by: BlackMage on June 10, 2007, 12:13:45 PM: Quote from: Ichirou on June 10, 2007, 12:04:08 PM
Quote from: BlackMage on June 10, 2007, 11:51:14 AM
I'm down with this topic. White Man has crazy taste! Plus, I need to read more.

What about my recommendations, babycakes? :D

ok blood meridian it is!
Title: Re: Whiteman make a reading list.
Post by: Ichirou on June 10, 2007, 12:31:30 PM: Awesome. I actually brought a copy with me. I will re-read it with you guys when you start, we can go through it together like a book club or something. :D
Title: Re: Whiteman make a reading list.
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 11, 2007, 12:28:49 AM: Ichi! :)

Quote from: TVC 15 on June 10, 2007, 06:39:05 AM
That probably would have been on my list, too, but I have no idea if it would be too difficult for him. That's some pretty difficult fiction.

Don't worry about difficulty. Despite my inability to spell I read very well and have read a lot. I read Shakespeare, Milton, and Dickens with ease. The only thing that ever gave me any trouble was Divine comedy in grade 10, which was manly not knowing the historical stuff - I need to get back to that someday as I didn't get passed the third canto.
Title: Re: Whiteman make a reading list.
Post by: Ichirou on June 11, 2007, 12:50:59 AM: Father_Mike, read the stuff on my list. If you find yourself frustrated by Blood Meridian, feel free to switch it with All The Pretty Horses or No Country for Old Men, by the same author. I think White Man will agree that my list is all good stuff.
Title: Re: Whiteman make a reading list.
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 11, 2007, 01:29:30 AM: Ok Blood Meridian is on my amazon list; ill order in a day or two.

also the American lit anthology that ecro sent has Snows of Kilimanjaro, and a few faulkener short stories so I plan on reading those too,
Title: Re: Whiteman make a reading list.
Post by: Ichirou on June 11, 2007, 01:42:47 AM: The Crying of Lot 49, Chronicle of a Death Foretold, and Pedro Páramo are relatively short. You should have no trouble with them. Plz read them. :)

Also, As I Lay Dying may be the easiest of Faulkner's works to get into, which is why I recommended it (ditto Lot 49 for Pynchon).
Title: Re: Whiteman make a reading list.
Post by: BlackMage on June 11, 2007, 04:30:24 PM: I picked up Blood Meridian at work yesterday. :-*
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Post by: Nick on June 11, 2007, 04:40:52 PM: White Man will you add me to last.fm.
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Post by: warcock on June 11, 2007, 04:49:00 PM: DONT FORGET THE FRENCH BOOKS :-*
Title: Re: Whiteman make a reading list.
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 12, 2007, 10:34:19 PM: List whiteman! :-*

Ok I think I'm going to get

-Blood Meridian: Or the Evening Redness in the West
- Journey through Genius: The Great Theorems of Mathematics
- Men of Mathematics
-The Basic Works of Aristotle
-Spinoza: Complete Works
- Why I Am Not a Christian
- From So Simple a Beginning: Darwin's Four Great Books (Voyage of the Beagle, The Origin of Species, The Descent of Man, The Expression of Emotions in Man and Animals)
- Faust: Part One and two
- Less Than Zero
- Metamorphoses
- Prometheus Bound and Other Plays: Prometheus Bound, The Suppliants, Seven Against Thebes, The Persian
- The Oresteia: Agamemnon; The Libation Bearers; The Eumenides
- The Complete Plays of Sophocles
- Ten Plays by Euripides
- In Praise of Idleness: And other essays

I'll also pick up a few more from whitemans list once he makes it.

....Savings :'(
Title: Re: Whiteman make a reading list.
Post by: Robo on June 12, 2007, 10:43:30 PM: Savings? Surely, you're not gonna BUY all those? Library, fool, library!
Title: Re: Whiteman make a reading list.
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 12, 2007, 11:40:44 PM: never! I want to buy. Theres something nice about and nice new book and your own library.

I'm reading snows of Kilimanjaro right now. It's really good. It feels like I've already read the better part of a full lenght novel and I'm only half way though.
Title: Re: Whiteman make a reading list.
Post by: Robo on June 12, 2007, 11:46:43 PM: There's something nicer about having lots of extra money to spend on beer to accidentally spill on your free public library books.
Title: Re: Whiteman make a reading list.
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 13, 2007, 12:00:37 AM: beers shit, now if you would have said scotch, I might have listened. :P

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Title: Re: Whiteman make a reading list.
Post by: Robo on June 13, 2007, 12:14:54 AM: YOU NEVER SPILL SCOTCH

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Title: Re: Whiteman make a reading list.
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 13, 2007, 12:35:42 AM: :lol

Just finished reading Snows. That was beautiful. I don't think I've ever read a short story I liked till this.
Title: Re: Whiteman make a reading list.
Post by: Ichirou on June 13, 2007, 02:21:09 AM: Why did you only pick one book off my list? :(
Title: Re: Whiteman make a reading list.
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 13, 2007, 02:30:32 AM: Quote from: Ichirou on June 13, 2007, 02:21:09 AM
Why did you only pick one book off my list? :(

because if we do reading groups I wouldn't know which one will be our next read :-*

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Title: Re: Whiteman make a reading list.
Post by: Ichirou on June 13, 2007, 02:32:11 AM: Quote from: Father_Mike on June 13, 2007, 02:30:32 AM
Quote from: Ichirou on June 13, 2007, 02:21:09 AM
Why did you only pick one book off my list? :(

because if we do reading groups I wouldn't know which one will be our next read :-*

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But literature was my university major. I know what I'm talking about here, I'm not just pulling books out of my ass. :-\
Title: Re: Whiteman make a reading list.
Post by: TVC15 on June 13, 2007, 02:34:42 AM: Give me another day or so. It's been a crazy week so far.
Title: Re: Whiteman make a reading list.
Post by: Ichirou on June 13, 2007, 02:35:53 AM: White Man, back me up here - my list was pretty good, wasn't it?

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Blood Meridian, by Cormac McCarthy

As I Lay Dying, by William Faulkner

Red Harvest, by Dashiell Hammett

The Crying of Lot 49, by Thomas Pynchon

Jude the Obscure, by Thomas Hardy

Tristram Shandy, by Laurence Sterne

The Female Quixote, by Charlotte Lennox

Pedro Páramo, by Juan Rulfo

Chronicle of a Death Foretold (Cronica de una Muerte Anunciada), by Gabriel Garcia Marquez
Title: Re: Whiteman make a reading list.
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 13, 2007, 02:38:15 AM: Quote from: Ichirou on June 13, 2007, 02:32:11 AM
Quote from: Father_Mike on June 13, 2007, 02:30:32 AM
Quote from: Ichirou on June 13, 2007, 02:21:09 AM
Why did you only pick one book off my list? :(

because if we do reading groups I wouldn't know which one will be our next read :-*

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But literature was my university major. I know what I'm talking about here, I'm not just pulling books out of my ass. :-\
I didn't know that. And it has been noted.
Quote from: TVC 15 on June 13, 2007, 02:34:42 AM
Give me another day or so. It's been a crazy week so far.
Tomorrow? It doesn't need to be a complete list (just keep up dating it) by any means I just want a few more fiction novels to go a long with all the non-fiction I've been reading.
Title: Re: Whiteman make a reading list.
Post by: Ichirou on June 13, 2007, 02:42:35 AM: From what I know of White Man's tastes, he would probably recommend something by Pynchon, and the book I recommended (Crying of Lot 49) is undoubtedly the most accessible of all his works. Pedro Páramo and Chronicle of a Death Foretold are great examples of Latin American fiction, and they're also relatively short, so you should have no trouble getting through them. C'mon, Father_Mike. I'm pimping you some quality shit here. :-*
Title: Re: Whiteman make a reading list.
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 13, 2007, 02:46:05 AM: I promise I'll pick up two on the next lot

probably Crying of Lot 49, and As I Lay Dying.
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Post by: Ichirou on June 13, 2007, 02:47:47 AM: Picking up the white writers, huh? No surprise there. You make mupepe's mexican side cry. :maf
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Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 13, 2007, 08:48:08 PM: Ok placed my order -- I'll pick up whitemans sugestions in the next one.

1      "Journey through Genius: The Great Theorems of Mathematics"
William Dunham; Paperback; $10.17

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   1    "Prometheus Bound and Other Plays: Prometheus Bound, The Suppliants, Seven Against Thebes, The Persian (Penguin Classics)"
Philip Vellacott; Paperback; $9.35

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   1    "Metamorphoses (Penguin Classics)"
Ovid; Paperback; $8.80

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   1    "Faust: Part One (Oxford World's Classic)"
Johann Wolfgang von Goethe; Paperback; $9.95

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   1    "Faust: Part Two (Oxford World's Classics)"
Johann Wolfgang von Goethe; Paperback; $10.16

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   1    "Basic Writings of Kant (Modern Library Classics)"
Immanuel Kant; Paperback; $11.53

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   1    "From So Simple a Beginning: Darwin's Four Great Books (Voyage of the Beagle, The Origin of Species, The Descent of Man, The Expression of Emotions in Man and Animals)"
Charles Darwin; Hardcover; $26.37

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   1    "The Basic Works of Aristotle"
Richard Mckeon; Hardcover; $32.97

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   1    "In Praise of Idleness: And other essays (Routledge Classics)"
Bertrand Russell; Paperback; $11.96

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   1    "The Complete Plays of Sophocles"
Sophocles; Mass Market Paperback; $5.99

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   1    "Ten Plays by Euripides"
Euripides; Mass Market Paperback; $6.95

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   1    "Blood Meridian: Or the Evening Redness in the West (Modern Library)"
Cormac Mccarthy; Hardcover; $14.93

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   1    "Less Than Zero"
Bret Easton Ellis; Paperback; $10.36

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   1    "Sun Also Rises (Scribner Classics)"
Ernest Hemingway; Hardcover; $16.50

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   1    "The Complete Short Stories of Ernest Hemingway: The Finca Vigia Edition"
Ernest Hemingway; Paperback; $13.60

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   1    "Spinoza: Complete Works"
Benedictus de Spinoza; Hardcover; $71.25

   1    "The Oresteia: Agamemnon; The Libation Bearers; The Eumenides (Penguin Classics)"
Aeschylus; Paperback; $8.80

1    "Men of Mathematics (Touchstone Book)"
Title: Re: Whiteman make a reading list.
Post by: CajoleJuice on June 13, 2007, 09:17:47 PM: Dude, that's like $300. Holy shit.

Out of that list, I've only read the Oresteia and some of Euripides' and Sophocles' plays.
Title: Re: Whiteman make a reading list.
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 13, 2007, 09:18:45 PM: :-[

Funny thing is I had to stop my self from getting a $100 Shakespeare set too.
Title: Re: Whiteman make a reading list.
Post by: CajoleJuice on June 13, 2007, 09:20:32 PM: I LIKE YOU

BUT YOU'RE CRAZY
Title: Re: Whiteman make a reading list.
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 13, 2007, 09:22:09 PM: Quote from: CajoleJuice on June 13, 2007, 09:20:32 PM
I LIKE YOU

BUT YOU'RE CRAZY

Says the man with a chainsaw wielding man in his avatar.