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Title: Satoshi Kon > Disney
Post by: MrAngryFace on June 17, 2007, 11:24:25 PM: Watched Perfect Blue and Paprika this weekend. OMG.

Disney just doesnt know how to make animated movies anymore lol.

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/5/52/Pblue.jpg/200px-Pblue.jpg)(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/5/54/Mactres.jpg/200px-Mactres.jpg)(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/7/7d/Paprika_%282006_film%29.jpg/200px-Paprika_%282006_film%29.jpg)
Title: Re: Satoshi Kon > Disney
Post by: Junpei the Tracer! on June 17, 2007, 11:42:07 PM: I wanna see Paprika....but Perfect Blue is really good.
Title: Re: Satoshi Kon > Disney
Post by: Ichirou on June 17, 2007, 11:45:03 PM: I'm trying to imagine Disney making Perfect Blue. They'd make the pop idol's goldfish into talking sidekicks, I bet.
Title: Re: Satoshi Kon > Disney
Post by: MrAngryFace on June 18, 2007, 12:18:25 AM: Haha. Perfect Blue was really good, its amazing how well he shifts scenes. I mean its something I would consider complicated but all three movies above do it with so little effort and its still done so well.
Title: Re: Satoshi Kon > Disney
Post by: Phoenix Dark on June 18, 2007, 01:44:35 AM: I've never seen these movies but I support the notion that Satoshi Kon>Pixar
Title: Re: Satoshi Kon > Disney
Post by: Himu on June 18, 2007, 01:46:33 AM: You're a dumbass. I have told you to see Millennium Actress and Perfect Blue for ages.
Title: Re: Satoshi Kon > Disney
Post by: Phoenix Dark on June 18, 2007, 01:47:59 AM: I'd rather have the FALL GUY endorse it. Sorry Himu I don't trust your opinions
Title: Re: Satoshi Kon > Disney
Post by: Himu on June 18, 2007, 01:49:43 AM: :lol
Title: Re: Satoshi Kon > Disney
Post by: Phoenix Dark on June 18, 2007, 01:55:13 AM: (http://img102.imageshack.us/img102/9531/colthp5.jpg)
Title: Re: Satoshi Kon > Disney
Post by: Himu on June 18, 2007, 01:56:04 AM: You don't trust MY opinion when everyone else has been spooging over Kon's shit for the past few months? lmao. It takes COLT SEAVERS to get your dumbass interested when we have have praised these movies to high heaven and back for months?

Get off your high horse, chico. I'm buying you Unforgiven for Christmas, faggo.
Title: Re: Satoshi Kon > Disney
Post by: Human Snorenado on June 18, 2007, 01:56:57 AM: It's a shame that ManaByte won't read this thread. It might kill him.
Title: Re: Satoshi Kon > Disney
Post by: Himu on June 18, 2007, 01:57:46 AM: Mickey Mouse sucks. Take that ManaByte.
Title: Re: Satoshi Kon > Disney
Post by: Ichirou on June 18, 2007, 02:04:14 AM: I PM'ed ManaByte a couple of days ago telling him to start posting here. Don't scare him off, you guys.
Title: Re: Satoshi Kon > Disney
Post by: MrAngryFace on June 18, 2007, 02:07:01 AM: I dont think I can pretend Disney is better.
Title: Re: Satoshi Kon > Disney
Post by: Himu on June 18, 2007, 02:08:02 AM: Mamoru Oshii > Disney

This is coming from someone who hates Ghost in the Shell movies
Title: Re: Satoshi Kon > Disney
Post by: Ichirou on June 18, 2007, 02:08:43 AM: Quote from: Himuro on June 18, 2007, 02:08:02 AM
Mamoru Oishii > Disney

This is coming from someone who hates Ghost in the Shell movies

I think you mean Oshii. Oishii means "delicious" in japanese. :lol

I hate everything he's done outside of Patlabor, though. He just doesn't have the humanist touch required to make you care about the characters in his films.
Title: Re: Satoshi Kon > Disney
Post by: Himu on June 18, 2007, 02:10:31 AM: Still better than Disney. Didn't he direct Stand Alone Complex? That gives him kudos. Top 5 material.

I thought Jin Roh was amazing.
Title: Re: Satoshi Kon > Disney
Post by: Ichirou on June 18, 2007, 02:13:59 AM: His films are visually stunning but they have no heart.
Title: Re: Satoshi Kon > Disney
Post by: Phoenix Dark on June 18, 2007, 02:14:53 AM: spoiler (click to show/hide)
Toy Story: 10/10
Incredibles: 10/10
Toy Story 2: 9/10

Leave me aloooone :shh
[close]
Title: Re: Satoshi Kon > Disney
Post by: Himu on June 18, 2007, 02:16:50 AM: I think he works better as a writer than a director.

Isao Takahata > Disney
Title: Re: Satoshi Kon > Disney
Post by: Ichirou on June 18, 2007, 02:21:55 AM: Perfect Blue: 9/10
Millennium Actress: 10/10
Tokyo Godfathers: 10/10

Satoshi Kon is a true auteur.
Title: Re: Satoshi Kon > Disney
Post by: Human Snorenado on June 18, 2007, 02:24:00 AM: Quote from: Ichirou on June 18, 2007, 02:04:14 AM
I PM'ed ManaByte a couple of days ago telling him to start posting here. Don't scare him off, you guys.

That was poorly thought out. We would destroy him if he started posting here.
Title: Re: Satoshi Kon > Disney
Post by: Himu on June 18, 2007, 02:24:48 AM: Quote from: Ichirou on June 18, 2007, 02:21:55 AM
Perfect Blue: 9/10
Millennium Actress: 10/10
Tokyo Godfathers: 10/10

Satoshi Kon is a true auteur.

:bow :bow :bow
Title: Re: Satoshi Kon > Disney
Post by: Yeti on June 18, 2007, 02:26:25 AM: Quote from: Ichirou on June 18, 2007, 02:04:14 AM
I PM'ed ManaByte a couple of days ago telling him to start posting here. Don't scare him off, you guys.

Why would you do such a thing? :'( :maf
Title: Re: Satoshi Kon > Disney
Post by: Fresh Prince on June 18, 2007, 02:28:02 AM: I tried to watch Paprika but I was dozing off at the restaurant scene.

Anyway this is an unfair comparison since Disney is for the children, or family friendly whatever.
I want to see Brad Bird make something more geared toward the adult market, that would be awesome.
Title: Re: Satoshi Kon > Disney
Post by: Ichirou on June 18, 2007, 02:41:32 AM: Quote from: Yeti on June 18, 2007, 02:26:25 AM
Quote from: Ichirou on June 18, 2007, 02:04:14 AM
I PM'ed ManaByte a couple of days ago telling him to start posting here. Don't scare him off, you guys.

Why would you do such a thing? :'( :maf

Because I love him.
Title: Re: Satoshi Kon > Disney
Post by: Human Snorenado on June 18, 2007, 02:57:05 AM: Quote from: Ichirou on June 18, 2007, 02:41:32 AM
Quote from: Yeti on June 18, 2007, 02:26:25 AM
Quote from: Ichirou on June 18, 2007, 02:04:14 AM
I PM'ed ManaByte a couple of days ago telling him to start posting here. Don't scare him off, you guys.

Why would you do such a thing? :'( :maf

Because I love him.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v180/Triumph/colbertturnmh9.gif)
Title: Re: Satoshi Kon > Disney
Post by: Yeti on June 18, 2007, 12:04:31 PM: Quote from: Ichirou on June 18, 2007, 02:41:32 AM
Quote from: Yeti on June 18, 2007, 02:26:25 AM
Quote from: Ichirou on June 18, 2007, 02:04:14 AM
I PM'ed ManaByte a couple of days ago telling him to start posting here. Don't scare him off, you guys.

Why would you do such a thing? :'( :maf

Because I love him.

Man, I even like posters like PD and FlameofCallendor that you all seem to dislike and even I find Manabyte obnoxious.
Title: Re: Satoshi Kon > Disney
Post by: Mr. Gundam on June 18, 2007, 12:09:36 PM: Quote from: Himuro on June 18, 2007, 02:10:31 AM
Still better than Disney. Didn't he direct Stand Alone Complex? That gives him kudos. Top 5 material.

Kenji Kamiyama directed Stand Alone Complex.
Title: Re: Satoshi Kon > Disney
Post by: bud on June 18, 2007, 12:10:45 PM: beauty and the beast
alladin
lion king (musafa :()
lots more

:bow disney when they were still awesome :bow
Title: Re: Satoshi Kon > Disney
Post by: MrAngryFace on June 18, 2007, 01:29:54 PM: They'd be good movies without the lame musical shit.
Title: Re: Satoshi Kon > Disney
Post by: bluemax on June 18, 2007, 01:32:27 PM: Quote from: bud on June 18, 2007, 12:10:45 PM
beauty and the beast
alladin
lion king (musafa :()
lots more

:bow disney when they were still awesome :bow

It is Mufasa...
Title: Re: Satoshi Kon > Disney
Post by: MrAngryFace on June 18, 2007, 01:35:40 PM: MUPHASA
Title: Re: Satoshi Kon > Disney
Post by: Himu on June 18, 2007, 02:09:31 PM: lol maf

i found tenchi universe at best buy the other day when i picked up roots for my father man. i saw they had tenchi muyo! (the ova) or something, but they had volume..3 instead of a big boxset. I was gonna get that, then I saw Tenchi Universe, which is like the next best thing.

you like tenchi?
Title: Re: Satoshi Kon > Disney
Post by: Mr. Gundam on June 18, 2007, 02:58:30 PM: I don't hate Tenchi, but I don't like it, either. Never could get into the harem stuff.
Title: Re: Satoshi Kon > Disney
Post by: Himu on June 18, 2007, 02:59:51 PM: Tenchi is one of the few "harem" anime I've ever liked, and it never really feels like a real harem show. There's little fan service at all.
Title: Re: Satoshi Kon > Disney
Post by: Mr. Gundam on June 18, 2007, 03:08:48 PM: Quote from: Himuro on June 18, 2007, 02:59:51 PM
Tenchi is one of the few "harem" anime I've ever liked, and it never really feels like a real harem show. There's little fan service at all.

Eh, I still didn't care for it. But, that's no knock against you if you like it.
Title: Re: Satoshi Kon > Disney
Post by: Vizzys on June 18, 2007, 03:41:36 PM: d.u.a.l. am the sequel to tenchi
Title: Re: Satoshi Kon > Disney
Post by: MrAngryFace on June 18, 2007, 03:54:10 PM: Tenchi Universe is probably the least fanservice-y of them all. It actually was a lot more fun because of it and sorta reminded me of Slayers in a way. Wacky ensemble cast in wacky adventures.
Title: Re: Satoshi Kon > Disney
Post by: Himu on June 18, 2007, 03:55:08 PM: Quote from: Colt Seavers on June 18, 2007, 03:54:10 PM
Tenchi Universe is probably the least fanservice-y of them all. It actually was a lot more fun because of it and sorta reminded me of Slayers in a way. Wacky ensemble cast in wacky adventures.

Hell yeah.
Title: Re: Satoshi Kon > Disney
Post by: MrAngryFace on June 18, 2007, 03:56:02 PM: OVA was ok until the baby and bizzare furry ep
Title: Re: Satoshi Kon > Disney
Post by: Vizzys on June 18, 2007, 03:59:23 PM: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dual%21_Parallel_Trouble_Adventure
fun little show
Title: Re: Satoshi Kon > Disney
Post by: MrAngryFace on June 18, 2007, 04:04:33 PM: Im glad publishers are coming around to the older anime again. FLCL, Slayers, Irresponsible Captain Tylor, are all getting proper releases on DVD to make up for the rush releases they got years ago.
Title: Re: Satoshi Kon > Disney
Post by: Himu on June 18, 2007, 04:06:12 PM: Haha. Really? I own FLCL on dvd. It wasn't a rush job at all. They were actually really good dvds. I know some can't justify the 30 dollars for 2 eps for a 6 ep series thing, but it was worth it, and I got it all for like 20 dollars a disc.

Tyler is getting proper dvd release? What was wrong with the original release?

Old anime :bow
Title: Re: Satoshi Kon > Disney
Post by: Mr. Gundam on June 18, 2007, 04:12:37 PM: [NERD MODE]Old? Really? That shit's not even close to being old.

Let's see some good old Space Pirate Captain Harlock, Galaxy Express 999, Space Runaway Ideon, Mobile Suit ZZ Gundam, etc. get released over here![/NERD MODE]
Title: Re: Satoshi Kon > Disney
Post by: Himu on June 18, 2007, 04:17:49 PM: Quote from: distantmantra on June 18, 2007, 04:12:37 PM
[NERD MODE]Old? Really? That shit's not even close to being old.

Let's see some good old Space Pirate Captain Harlock, Galaxy Express 999, Space Runaway Ideon, Mobile Suit ZZ Gundam, etc. get released over here![/NERD MODE]

I agree but like...what I meant was by OLDER anime, not more recent stuff, since I'm not a big fan to be honest.

Captain Harlock and Galaxy Express 999 <3
Title: Re: Satoshi Kon > Disney
Post by: MrAngryFace on June 18, 2007, 05:57:43 PM: You didnt see the latest Tylor releases? By rushed releases I mean video quickly thrown on DVD with no aim to remaster or anything. (ie slayers :( )

The Tylor box sets are omg nice. I just have the OVA one, I have the original dvds for the tv series. The FLCL bonuses with the ultimate set are nice :)
Title: Re: Satoshi Kon > Disney
Post by: hyp on June 18, 2007, 06:25:06 PM: perfect blue was genius. i expected it to be bad, but fell in love with it. i've probably watched it 5 times already.
Title: Re: Satoshi Kon > Disney
Post by: Himu on June 18, 2007, 07:37:38 PM: Quote from: Colt Seavers on June 18, 2007, 05:57:43 PM
You didnt see the latest Tylor releases? By rushed releases I mean video quickly thrown on DVD with no aim to remaster or anything. (ie slayers :( )

The Tylor box sets are omg nice. I just have the OVA one, I have the original dvds for the tv series. The FLCL bonuses with the ultimate set are nice :)

What are the bonuses for the FLCL set?

How much does the Tylor tv set cost?
Title: Re: Satoshi Kon > Disney
Post by: MrAngryFace on June 18, 2007, 08:23:15 PM: 60 or so, its cheaper to find the old dvds used if you can. The Tyler sets are just so well done tho. Nice n small tasteful. FLCL has a book that has a portion of the manga and other fun fact crap in it, some post cards, blah blah usual. What is nice is the 4th DVD that has custom music videos created with clips from the show with some of the better songs. There may be more im not sure. Plus the packaging looks awesome ;-)
Title: Re: Satoshi Kon > Disney
Post by: Himu on June 19, 2007, 12:22:49 AM: Old FLCL dvds came with the manga as well.

btw MAF. You seen Paranoia Agent? it's another Kon directed piece.
Title: Re: Satoshi Kon > Disney
Post by: MrAngryFace on June 19, 2007, 12:23:20 AM: Im going to check it out
Title: Re: Satoshi Kon > Disney
Post by: etiolate on June 19, 2007, 12:24:58 AM: Yes, Parannoia Agent should be next on your list.
Title: Re: Satoshi Kon > Disney
Post by: Ichirou on June 19, 2007, 12:37:58 AM: Is Paranoia Agent available in cheap box set form?
Title: Re: Satoshi Kon > Disney
Post by: Mr. Gundam on June 19, 2007, 12:43:26 AM: Quote from: Ichirou on June 19, 2007, 12:37:58 AM
Is Paranoia Agent available in cheap box set form?

I don't know if it's cheap (this is Geneon we're talking about), but there is a box set.
Title: Re: Satoshi Kon > Disney
Post by: MrAngryFace on June 19, 2007, 12:44:04 AM: I think ive seen it at Best Buy, cant be too bad.
Title: Re: Satoshi Kon > Disney
Post by: Mr. Gundam on June 19, 2007, 12:45:45 AM: Deep Discount doesn't have the box set, nor do they have the single volumes, for that matter.

Amazon has it for $100, and DVD Empire has it for $75.
Title: Re: Satoshi Kon > Disney
Post by: Ichirou on June 19, 2007, 12:47:58 AM: $75 for a 13 episode series? :tbslol
Title: Re: Satoshi Kon > Disney
Post by: Mr. Gundam on June 19, 2007, 12:48:39 AM: Quote from: Ichirou on June 19, 2007, 12:47:58 AM
$75 for a 13 episode series? :tbslol

Like I said, it's Geneon. They don't understand the concept of "cheap anime."
Title: Re: Satoshi Kon > Disney
Post by: Ichirou on June 19, 2007, 12:51:54 AM: Well, that's one show I'll never watch, then. I'll just stick to Bandai and ADV, their stuff is cheaaaap.
Title: Re: Satoshi Kon > Disney
Post by: Mr. Gundam on June 19, 2007, 12:53:48 AM: Quote from: Ichirou on June 19, 2007, 12:51:54 AM
Well, that's one show I'll never watch, then. I'll just stick to Bandai and ADV, their stuff is cheaaaap.

The Right Stuf is having a sale right now where you can get 10 Geneon selected titles for $50. Paranoia Agent is on the list of selected titles.

www.therightstuf.com
Title: Re: Satoshi Kon > Disney
Post by: Ichirou on June 19, 2007, 01:03:22 AM: Does this apply to the box set, or only the individual releases?
Title: Re: Satoshi Kon > Disney
Post by: Mr. Gundam on June 19, 2007, 01:07:00 AM: Quote from: Ichirou on June 19, 2007, 01:03:22 AM
Does this apply to the box set, or only the individual releases?

Just the individual releases. There aren't any extras in the box set.
Title: Re: Satoshi Kon > Disney
Post by: MrAngryFace on June 19, 2007, 09:17:55 AM: I musta remembered the price wrong :(
Title: Re: Satoshi Kon > Disney
Post by: Van Cruncheon on June 19, 2007, 10:34:36 AM: i got hellsing (geneon, 13 eps) at best buy for $34.99.
Title: Re: Satoshi Kon > Disney
Post by: MrAngryFace on June 19, 2007, 11:15:25 AM: pretty sure there's a 13 ep box set of paranoia agent for around that price.
Title: Re: Satoshi Kon > Disney
Post by: Himu on June 19, 2007, 11:56:44 AM: Quote from: distantmantra on June 19, 2007, 12:48:39 AM
Quote from: Ichirou on June 19, 2007, 12:47:58 AM
$75 for a 13 episode series? :tbslol

Like I said, it's Geneon. They don't understand the concept of "cheap anime."

My Tenchi Universe boxset cost like 40 dollars
Title: Re: Satoshi Kon > Disney
Post by: MrAngryFace on June 19, 2007, 12:13:18 PM: Where did you get this boxset, I want :(
Title: Re: Satoshi Kon > Disney
Post by: Himu on June 19, 2007, 12:35:05 PM: Best Buy!
Title: Re: Satoshi Kon > Disney
Post by: MrAngryFace on June 19, 2007, 01:10:58 PM: I never see that at mine!
Title: Re: Satoshi Kon > Disney
Post by: Himu on June 19, 2007, 01:20:46 PM: It was the first time I saw Tenchi stuff at mine.
Title: Re: Satoshi Kon > Disney
Post by: MrAngryFace on June 19, 2007, 01:23:07 PM: They have the new OVA stuff but im not interested.
Title: Re: Satoshi Kon > Disney
Post by: Junpei the Tracer! on June 19, 2007, 01:24:17 PM: MAF quit changing your name.
Title: Re: Satoshi Kon > Disney
Post by: Mr. Gundam on June 19, 2007, 01:25:57 PM: Tenchi (along with Hellsing, Lain and a few others) is part of Geneon's budget line.
Title: Re: Satoshi Kon > Disney
Post by: Junpei the Tracer! on June 19, 2007, 01:36:01 PM: How much would a complete series like Cowboy Bebop/Trigun/Samurai Champloo cost?
Title: Re: Satoshi Kon > Disney
Post by: MrAngryFace on June 19, 2007, 01:37:11 PM: Quote from: Junpei the Tracer! on June 19, 2007, 01:24:17 PM
MAF quit changing your name.

Ill quit changing my name if you quit posting.
Title: Re: Satoshi Kon > Disney
Post by: Mr. Gundam on June 19, 2007, 01:39:27 PM: Quote from: Junpei the Tracer! on June 19, 2007, 01:36:01 PM
How much would a complete series like Cowboy Bebop/Trigun/Samurai Champloo cost?

Bebop is one of Bandai's cash cows, it's still full price after being out on DVD for almost eight years now.

Trigun is part of Geneon's budget line now, so it can't be too much.

Join the Columbia House DVD club and get all of Samurai Champloo for like $12. That's what I did last year.
Title: Re: Satoshi Kon > Disney
Post by: Junpei the Tracer! on June 19, 2007, 01:52:40 PM: Quote from: Douglas Wambaugh on June 19, 2007, 01:37:11 PM
Quote from: Junpei the Tracer! on June 19, 2007, 01:24:17 PM
MAF quit changing your name.

Ill quit changing my name if you quit posting.

Lies dance from your tongue in ecstasy.

Quote from: distantmantra on June 19, 2007, 01:39:27 PM
Quote from: Junpei the Tracer! on June 19, 2007, 01:36:01 PM
How much would a complete series like Cowboy Bebop/Trigun/Samurai Champloo cost?

Bebop is one of Bandai's cash cows, it's still full price after being out on DVD for almost eight years now.

Trigun is part of Geneon's budget line now, so it can't be too much.

Join the Columbia House DVD club and get all of Samurai Champloo for like $12. That's what I did last year.

Alright cool.