lolbubububu without illegal immigrants you'd have to pay $400 for a pair of jeans. Oh wait, nevermind.
granting amnesty to criminals is ridiculous.
and i'm as left as they come.
I bet 90% of the 20% of those americans that want it to pass aren't even americans. fucking mexicans.
not mine! My family has papers to prove their legality ;)I bet 90% of the 20% of those americans that want it to pass aren't even americans. fucking mexicans.
I think anyone with even a drop of mexican blood should be sent back across the border. Their ancestors probably crossed over here illegally anyway.
Was this another one of Bush's delusions. And why do you have to support amnesty to win the hispanic vote? Are you saying that hispanic-Americans can't get past crude ethnic nepotism?
Remember when people were talking up the Republican Party mining the latino vote for decades to come? That was fun while it lasted.
Was this another one of Bush's delusions.
And why do you have to support amnesty to win the hispanic vote? Are you saying that hispanic-Americans can't get past crude ethnic nepotism?
I'm really amazed sometimes when I debate with some of my hispanic friends about immigration. They refuse to believe that immigration laws exist for logical reason
44% for a pro-amnesty president who speaks Spanish. Outside that election and outside Cubans in Florida, most Hispanics vote Democrat. Hispanics are not as socially conservative as Republicans claim (explain why over 50% of Hispanics in America are born out of wedlock?) and they are not, on average, fiscally conservative (various Pew poll show they lean heavily to the left). There is no reason to believe that they would be long term GOP voters.
This was Rove, Bush, and some of the other GOP leadership. Here's a Salon story from 2000 about it. (http://archive.salon.com/politics2000/feature/2000/01/13/latinos/index.html) Also the last paragraph of this interview with Rove. (http://www.pbs.org/pov/pov2004/lastmanstanding/special_myth_kr.html)
The basic argument was that hispanic immigrants tended to be religious and culturally conservative, and border state Republicans had some success at getting good chunks of that demographic. Bush got 44% of the hispanic vote in 2004. (http://www.usatoday.com/news/politicselections/2004-11-10-hispanic-voters_x.htm) At the very least they wanted to (and felt they could) keep it in play.
I dunno. Immigrants definitely pay sales and payroll taxes (Social Security in particular benefits from this). I'm sure they receive more in benefits than they pay, but that's because they're predominantly poor, and that's how the system is meant to work.Many of the illegals are high school drop outs. On average a high school drop out receives $20 000 more in services than he pays in taxes per year. So you lettuce picker is being subsidized by tax payers. His low wages are illusory.
What particularly are you thinking of? In terms of services that should be available for US citizens but not for non-citizen residents?
I dunno. Immigrants definitely pay sales and payroll taxes (Social Security in particular benefits from this).
. As the debate over Social Security heats up, the estimated seven million or so illegal immigrant workers in the United States are now providing the system with a subsidy of as much as $7 billion a year.
Households headed by illegal aliens imposed more than $26.3 billion in costs on the federal government in 2002 and paid only $16 billion in taxes, creating a net fiscal deficit of almost $10.4 billion, or $2,700 per illegal household.
California's nearly 3 million illegal immigrants cost taxpayers nearly $9 billion each year
Mandark, it's a good thing that the only program that any level of government pays for is Social Security. OH WAIT!QuoteHouseholds headed by illegal aliens imposed more than $26.3 billion in costs on the federal government in 2002 and paid only $16 billion in taxes, creating a net fiscal deficit of almost $10.4 billion, or $2,700 per illegal household.
http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.html (http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.html)
And that is just at the federal level. Much of the burden is at the local level.QuoteCalifornia's nearly 3 million illegal immigrants cost taxpayers nearly $9 billion each year
http://www.nctimes.com/articles/2004/12/06/news/top_stories/19_56_5812_5_04.txt (http://www.nctimes.com/articles/2004/12/06/news/top_stories/19_56_5812_5_04.txt)
I dunno. Immigrants definitely pay sales and payroll taxes (Social Security in particular benefits from this). I'm sure they receive more in benefits than they pay, but that's because they're predominantly poor, and that's how the system is meant to work.
What particularly are you thinking of? In terms of services that should be available for US citizens but not for non-citizen residents?