i used to play back in the 90s but the fact that the people with the most money would win kind of annoyed me.
When I was at college, my little brother traded the whole thing for a case of beer.
I like Magic, I just don't have
-money
-decent enough card knowledge
-people to play that don't team up against me in chaos games EVERY GODDAMN TIME FUCK YOU TEHJAYBO.
I like Magic, I just don't have
-money
-decent enough card knowledge
-people to play that don't team up against me in chaos games EVERY GODDAMN TIME FUCK YOU TEHJAYBO.
This is when you steal his deck setup and post it on a forum and ask how to counter it ;)
I used to play. Got where it was too expensive to go to tournies.
I used to play Magic. I got into it when Beta was the current set, and played until shortly after Ice Age was released. This isn't a slam on anyone who still plays, but I personally lost all interest in it and other CCGs (I also played Marvel Overpower and Star Wars) when I got a girlfriend sophomore year of high school.
I'm sure all my cards are still in my parents' attic. I had some pretty good stuff.
I'd be down for a free apprentice tourney.
I used to play Magic. I got into it when Beta was the current set, and played until shortly after Ice Age was released. This isn't a slam on anyone who still plays, but I personally lost all interest in it and other CCGs (I also played Marvel Overpower and Star Wars) when I got a girlfriend sophomore year of high school.
I'm sure all my cards are still in my parents' attic. I had some pretty good stuff.
If you have some Beta cards still in that stash, I'd look through them. The Power 9 (if you don't know what those are, they're the 9 most powerful cards made) each book for around $900 a piece.
But you know, if you don't play anymore and feel like giving your cards away.... :hyper
I used to play Magic. I got into it when Beta was the current set, and played until shortly after Ice Age was released. This isn't a slam on anyone who still plays, but I personally lost all interest in it and other CCGs (I also played Marvel Overpower and Star Wars) when I got a girlfriend sophomore year of high school.
I'm sure all my cards are still in my parents' attic. I had some pretty good stuff.
If you have some Beta cards still in that stash, I'd look through them. The Power 9 (if you don't know what those are, they're the 9 most powerful cards made) each book for around $900 a piece.
But you know, if you don't play anymore and feel like giving your cards away.... :hyper
Are the Power 9 stuff like Mox's, Black Lotus, etc.? I still have a Mox Emerlard, I think...
Mox Emerald (Beta) ($474.99)^ Price that Troll and Toad is selling that. I was a bit off, but it's still a chunk of change.
I used to play Magic. I got into it when Beta was the current set, and played until shortly after Ice Age was released. This isn't a slam on anyone who still plays, but I personally lost all interest in it and other CCGs (I also played Marvel Overpower and Star Wars) when I got a girlfriend sophomore year of high school.
I'm sure all my cards are still in my parents' attic. I had some pretty good stuff.
If you have some Beta cards still in that stash, I'd look through them. The Power 9 (if you don't know what those are, they're the 9 most powerful cards made) each book for around $900 a piece.
But you know, if you don't play anymore and feel like giving your cards away.... :hyper
Are the Power 9 stuff like Mox's, Black Lotus, etc.? I still have a Mox Emerlard, I think...
Yup. The five Moxes, Black Lotus, Time Walk, Timetwister, and Ancestral Recall.
I used to play Magic. I got into it when Beta was the current set, and played until shortly after Ice Age was released. This isn't a slam on anyone who still plays, but I personally lost all interest in it and other CCGs (I also played Marvel Overpower and Star Wars) when I got a girlfriend sophomore year of high school.
I'm sure all my cards are still in my parents' attic. I had some pretty good stuff.
If you have some Beta cards still in that stash, I'd look through them. The Power 9 (if you don't know what those are, they're the 9 most powerful cards made) each book for around $900 a piece.
But you know, if you don't play anymore and feel like giving your cards away.... :hyper
Are the Power 9 stuff like Mox's, Black Lotus, etc.? I still have a Mox Emerlard, I think...
Yup. The five Moxes, Black Lotus, Time Walk, Timetwister, and Ancestral Recall.
I always wanted a Time Walk, blue was my favorite color to use. I remember when the Icy Manipulator was one of the big cards, and then they added it to Ice Age. Lots of butthurt elitist Magic fans out there because of that one.
Did Dual Lands ever come back? Those were awesome.
What is this apprentice thing you're talking about? If it's about playing magic with you guys, I might be down for that soon.
Did Dual Lands ever come back? Those were awesome.
Never to the glory of the unlimited/revised ones-They either hurt you when you tapped them for colored mana or had a delay attached to them or some other mechanic. I don't play anymore but I think someone said the new versions were usable without being overpowered like the original ones were.
Yeah, I have 4 Isos and 4 Counterspell/Snap/Boomerang in my Tinker deck... :lol So much fun.
I might take you up on that Apprentice offer since its free. Would take alot to remember some of the crazy decks I made up and played with friends for shits and giggles.
But what cards would be allowed? All? Only current tournament standard? etc.
Yeah, I have 4 Isos and 4 Counterspell/Snap/Boomerang in my Tinker deck... :lol So much fun.
yeah the win condition of my deck is lock their ass down (Ive go Heidar rimewind master and rimewind mages or whatever theyre called, tap and untap perms if you have snow permanents, all islands are snow covered) then animate all my islands with Balduvian frostwaker then kill them with 2/2 flying snow covered islands. Its pretty funny.
I might take you up on that Apprentice offer since its free. Would take alot to remember some of the crazy decks I made up and played with friends for shits and giggles.
But what cards would be allowed? All? Only current tournament standard? etc.
another good combo is Enchanted Evening and Cleansing Meditation, especially if you have threshold, lol.(http://i43.tinypic.com/2pslgsn.jpg)
Probably my favorite thing to do in the Mirrodin/Darksteel times was to make Platinum Angel indestructible and laugh as the poor smuck's dreams of victory died in his eyes before me.(http://i42.tinypic.com/2m5ggpl.jpg)or(http://i40.tinypic.com/2e655k1.jpg)
another good combo is Enchanted Evening and Cleansing Meditation, especially if you have threshold, lol.(http://www.trollandtoad.com/images/products/pictures/79843.jpg)
My friend runs a deck where Enchanted Evening/Aura Thief is his main combo, paired with an Auratog.. haha.Probably my favorite thing to do in the Mirrodin/Darksteel times was to make Platinum Angel indestructible and laugh as the poor smuck's dreams of victory died in his eyes before me.(http://www.trollandtoad.com/images/products/pictures/93782.jpg)or(http://www.trollandtoad.com/images/products/pictures/93010.jpg)
Just because it's indestructable doesn't mean it can't be the target of spells or abilities. :-*spoiler (click to show/hide)(http://www.trollandtoad.com/images/products/pictures/111607.jpg)
I use Platinum Angels and Darksteel Forges too. :teehee[close]
I had/have a pretty good artifact deck, though it's been awhile and can't totally remember all the cards.
A few metal workers
Staff of Domination
Mycosynth Golem
Nuissance Engine
Clock of Omens
Extruder
Arcbound Ravager
A fireball
Myr Incubator
Bosh, Iron Golem
Couple of Ornithopters
Mephitic Ooze
A few card drawing artifacts (jayameade tome, urza's blueprints)
3 planeswalkers I can't remember the name of (the two that came in pre-construct set, and another blue one)
and a few others.
The deck probably sucks in reality, but in my small circle it was pretty awesome :D
They were showing up at work. Sorry! Will do in a minute. I'm digging out my decks and constructing them on Anycraze for easy grabbing.
I play a Barack Obama deck: Half-black, half-white.
Not a single rare, and just 2 uncommons.
Tehjaybo, where and when in Berea. Might be road trip time.
Cool, I'll most likely see ya Friday barring something on my end.
Anyone ever use the storage lands from Fallen Empires? I loved those things, probably the only good cards to come from that horrible expansion.
Anyone ever use the storage lands from Fallen Empires? I loved those things, probably the only good cards to come from that horrible expansion.Best discard spell in the game, pump knights, High Tide... hardly a horrible expansion. Just narrow in its use, which is pretty much every early expansion set.
Compared to stuff like Legends and Antiquities that came out only a bit before-yeah, it was a letdown.Antiquities, sort of. Legends, ahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.
Fucking nerds. SMH.spoiler (click to show/hide)8)[close]
Fucking nerds. SMH.spoiler (click to show/hide)8)[close]
Attempted to look through post history to find something to fake mock you back, but after the first post or two I got really bored, so maybe later.
Edit: btw, it looks like either that .rar is corrupt or my transfer to my flash drive is bad. :-\ Why were mornings made... ugh
LOLRE-EDIT: It was my usb transfter. You now have 9 downloads. :D
EDIT: NM :D
EDIT: NM :D
Fix those financial issues there then? I see a Kentucky Bore magic tourny soon.
EDIT: NM :D
Fix those financial issues there then? I see a Kentucky Bore magic tourny soon.
Tehjaybo for the win, that's all I'm saying here.
EDIT: NM :D
Fix those financial issues there then? I see a Kentucky Bore magic tourny soon.
Tehjaybo for the win, that's all I'm saying here.
The Magic gods require his presence.
SMH @ tehjaybo.
Showing off his neck ::)
Btw, Greetings from EvilBore Magic: The Gathering League, Kentucky Chapter!
(http://i43.tinypic.com/2w4k0fc.jpg)
Pictured, left to right: Bloodwake, T234, new member BillyOfCourse, and tehjaybo.
Are Elven Archers really sharing the same table as Underground Sea? It's bad enough they share the same decade.
Cool idea, mind if I actually make the deck legal?
kara, you play on apprentice? I'd like to fuck around with some of the new cards/decks out there.I'll grab it tonight and input some Standard decks. :-*
I'll never forgive Wizards for not printing Armageddon anymore.Land destruction + "wrong" color + low CC + splashability = RIP Armageddon :'( :'( :'(
I understand that gold is making a comeback, and 5 color is viable again, but christ, overall winner? I just don't get it. I could never play three color, much less a five color CONTROL deck. What the shit.They've been pretty liberal with the multicolor stuff for a while now. This is kind of the apex of it I think. I imagine the days of all 8 pain lands being in the base set are numbered.
Also, got two more of my decks posted.What is Xblob 180 Boat Game playing?
Elf Ball: http://www.anycraze.com/deck_viewer.asp?id=377501
Psychatog: http://www.anycraze.com/deck_viewer.asp?id=377771
Help Bloodwake beat them, and help me improve them.
The following card sets are permitted in Standard tournaments:
* Tenth Edition (until July 17, 2009)
* Magic 2010 (effective July 17, 2009)
* Lorwyn
* Morningtide
* Shadowmoor
* Eventide
* Shards of Alara
* Conflux
* Alara Reborn (effective April 30, 2009)
Man, actually coming up with an idea is going to be my issue though. I don't know squat about the new sets really. But, Bloodwake, BillyOfCourse, me, and our local Magic guru are getting together today to discuss some deck archtypes. We're going to try to build four decks that we can take to tourneys and hopefully take 1-4 on. I just dread buying these cards. It's gonna break me, haha.
You seem to like absurd combos as win conditions, which while cool usually isn't feasible. Hasn't worked since... gosh, Prosperous-Bloom?Illusions-Donate :shh
Okay, so what sets exactly are we using, for serious? I'll throw something together tomorrow at work (lol).
Okay, so what sets exactly are we using, for serious? I'll throw something together tomorrow at work (lol).
karakand suggested using fifth edition, alliances and mirage- they were all out in '96, for us oldsters.
I'm down for whatever, tho, and would gladly play some type 2 with folks. I'd just snag some decks off of a site and dump 'em into apprentice, whatever.
Fourth has some cards I don't want to deal with. Including new sets adds synergy but also lets people netdeck and I wanted everyone to have to at least be semi-original with this as it's just for fun.
But the year is young! Can't wait for FE-HLD-LGD constructed. 8)
So, I had nearly talked myself into building the type 2 faerie deck I'd been considering for a week or so when I was informed that a bunch of the cards I'd be ordering will be phased out in the fall. This kind of sucks as I don't want to waste money on a type 2 deck I can only use for a few months. Back to the drawing board I suppose.It'll still be playable in Extended. At least at some point. (Very few Standard decks don't survive that transition.) Only problem there is that the only people that play that format are professionals.
The wording thing isn't just you. When I was going through the sets for this round of constructed I was like WTF at some of them.
Then there's phasing. :yuck
The wording thing isn't just you. When I was going through the sets for this round of constructed I was like WTF at some of them.
Then there's phasing. :yuck
I think it's funny that they're going back and digging up old mechanics like time counters... haha. Magic R&D lazy maybe? Also, if we do block decks, can we skip Kamigawa? I fucking hated all that samurai shit. That's actually the set I stopped playing on. I went to the first Kamigawa prerelease, and that was the last tourney I played.
The wording thing isn't just you. When I was going through the sets for this round of constructed I was like WTF at some of them.
Then there's phasing. :yuck
I think it's funny that they're going back and digging up old mechanics like time counters... haha. Magic R&D lazy maybe? Also, if we do block decks, can we skip Kamigawa? I fucking hated all that samurai shit. That's actually the set I stopped playing on. I went to the first Kamigawa prerelease, and that was the last tourney I played.
SHITTE SHITTE SHITTE
Best artifact since Cursed Scroll.That isn't even the best piece of equipment ever printed. :-*
I've never played before but you can play online for freeee you say?
I kind of want to play, but if I do, I want REAL cards.
Anyone else up for a game or two?I gotta do some tune ups on my decks... got some valuable data from Jay.
I kind of want to play, but if I do, I want REAL cards.
Fly to Kentucky. I'll play you. I have ~20 decks.
I kind of want to play, but if I do, I want REAL cards.
Fly to Kentucky. I'll play you. I have ~20 decks.
I don't even know how to play. But collecting cards and strategy tickles my nerd fancy.
I kind of want to play, but if I do, I want REAL cards.
Fly to Kentucky. I'll play you. I have ~20 decks.
I don't even know how to play. But collecting cards and strategy tickles my nerd fancy.
I kind of want to play, but if I do, I want REAL cards.
I kind of want to play, but if I do, I want REAL cards.
I'll sell you my binder of magic cards
For nudes
Man I hate building a deck, then firing it up in solitaire and realizing it just fucking sucks and is un-savable.
I think 7 of the top 8 at Kyoto ran white. :lol
Yeah, I'm in but I've actually got some work this week so I've been kind of busy. Probably be able to work on a deck tonight/tomorrow and be ready to play Friday.
Also :bow milling :bow2.
I'm all about it when I get home from work. given, that'll be a few hours. Hit me up on messenger / email me about 5:45pm if I haven't gotten up with you. I'm distinguished mentally-challenged when it comes to remembering things.
Frag- AIG is always ready to play. I'm hoping "The Senate" is a mostly all white deck that stone walls.
how is this thread so long?
It's pretty fun. Well designed to be fun is a more precise way of putting it.
Had you played the game before?
lol at Nemesis of Reason. Would be another fun addition to a Dmir U/B mill deck. That Szadek cunt was hilarious
I last played back in 1996 when "Ice Age" was out. I started when "The Dark" was released.
I'm more excited about this one:
(http://www.wizards.com/mtg/images/tcg/products/alarareborn/ddvzzkt636_EN.jpg)
(http://www.wizards.com/mtg/images/tcg/products/alarareborn/6hzspmgf3a_EN.jpg)
PLUS
(http://resources.wizards.com/Magic/Cards/RAV/en-us/Card89116.jpg)
=
OMGWTFBBQ
seeing these new magic cards (I stopped playing at Kamigawa my second time) makes me ge tthe itch to play again :(
I'm trying not to get sucked back in.
[img]http://www.wizards.com/mtg/images/tcg/products/alarareborn/o14g6okk6m_EN.jpg[img]
sweet jesus
I'm cool with whatever is thrown up. I have a black deck made from the torment/mirrodin/mirage thing, I just haven't been on much at night to play.
That being said, billyofcourse is over right now and we just made some pauper decks. I made "Tiny Tim, the poor man's ping". It's a red/blue tap/1 damage deck. billyofcourse, of course, took my idea and ran with it. He made a solid blue control/tim deck. And laughed at me while I lost.
Let me go on record to say I hate mother may I. fml.
Does Magic Online work well? That's probably the only way I'd play again.
Good luck offloading your old cards, I couldn't get jack for mine. I even had some semi-decent ravnica cards but the bot wanted nothing to do with them. :'(
I love gold cards and all, but isn't this just going crazy with it? I always wanted them brought back, but not so in-your-face.
All this new stuff reminds me of why I stopped playing magic in the first place though. I like the stuff I'm familiar with. I don't have the time to read up on every new card from every new set, especially when they don't match my playstyle. I like fast, cheap cards. I used to play burn because shocks and lightning bolts are one drops, and ball lightning is 6 for 3. Cards that take three different kinds of mana to cost annoy me.
All this new stuff reminds me of why I stopped playing magic in the first place though. I like the stuff I'm familiar with. I don't have the time to read up on every new card from every new set, especially when they don't match my playstyle. I like fast, cheap cards. I used to play burn because shocks and lightning bolts are one drops, and ball lightning is 6 for 3. Cards that take three different kinds of mana to cost annoy me.
Then Draft. Drafting is the best way to learn new stuff because you have to use what's in front of you and find a way to make it work. It's also a fun way to acquire cards.
I love gold cards and all, but isn't this just going crazy with it? I always wanted them brought back, but not so in-your-face.
I dunno jaybo, they're always going to introduce new cards/gimmicks/mechanics with every set.
kara- I agree with everything written there except that both Ravnica and Alara blocks kind of got me back into the game. I'll habitually peek at the wizards site every couple months to check out what they're doing. I must be a sucker for multi-color blocks, I guess. Just love having lots of options- must be the reverse jaybo.
I dunno jaybo, they're always going to introduce new cards/gimmicks/mechanics with every set.
kara- I agree with everything written there except that both Ravnica and Alara blocks kind of got me back into the game. I'll habitually peek at the wizards site every couple months to check out what they're doing. I must be a sucker for multi-color blocks, I guess. Just love having lots of options- must be the reverse jaybo.
Don't get me wrong. I love having options. And I love gold cards. But I like two-color gold cards. Things that you can run in a deck without having to have $30-$50/ea NBLs to fuel them. NBLs being so expensive is horseshit. If it weren't for that, I'd gladly play just about any deck in T2, because while some of the beatsticks might be $10-$25/ea, I could stomach that as long as my landbase stays under $200.
uhhhh this is cool I guess
(http://www.wizards.com/mtg/images/tcg/products/alarareborn/70nvnl6jk8_EN.jpg)
Set seems pretty Timmyrific.
A 7/7 flyer with haste is NEVER bad in draft.
terminate is cool , but it has a pretty key problem in that for a lot of the decks where it would be run over terror, it can't hit the all-important Burrenton Forge-Tender, which makes it somehow into damn near anything weenie.
This is hot:
Anathemancer
1BR
Creature - Zombie Wizard
When Anathemancer comes into play, it deals damage to target player equal to the number of nonbasic lands that player controls.
Unearth 5BR
2/2
#33/145
This is hot:
Anathemancer
1BR
Creature - Zombie Wizard
When Anathemancer comes into play, it deals damage to target player equal to the number of nonbasic lands that player controls.
Unearth 5BR
2/2
#33/145terminate is cool , but it has a pretty key problem in that for a lot of the decks where it would be run over terror, it can't hit the all-important Burrenton Forge-Tender, which makes it somehow into damn near anything weenie.
That guy's days in Standard are numbered though, right?
The way that NBLs are all that is used anymore, this is awesome.
Anyone know what some good creature removal / kill would be in standard? I'm splashing black in my mill deck, and need something to protect myself.
I read the rest of the spoilers, they're up at http://mtgsalvation.com/alara-reborn-spoiler.html
Gotta say I really like the shard specific 2cc "______blade" cycle of common critters that get pumped with other gold critters in play.
:bow pauper :bow2
You on mtgo right now frag?
The R/B ones disappointed me. One of them should have had double strike. Haste on a 2 drop that requires a gold card to have haste is just wonky.
went to the pre-release event this weekend and walked out with
sen triplets
maelstrom pulse
dragoon broodmother foil promo
dragon broodmother
enigma sphinx foil
filigree angel x 2
nemesis of reason
meddling mage
sovereigns of lost alara
those are just the rares from the new set that I picked up, not to mention a bunch of cards to build a pretty beastly blue/white/black artifact deck
filigree angel and master transmuter ftw
i bought my friend a conflux starter deck pack (40 card deck with a 15 card booster inside) this weekend. What does he get? Conflux. The set card.
i bought my friend a conflux starter deck pack (40 card deck with a 15 card booster inside) this weekend. What does he get? Conflux. The set card.
I had Billy buy me one of the Alara Reborn precons because there's a 4/7 critter that if you attack with it, even if it doesn't deal combat damage, it mills 10 cards. That thing is like my Christ.
lol paper cards lol
(http://gatherer.wizards.com/Handlers/Image.ashx?multiverseid=188962&type=card)
Godddddddddd yessssssssssssssssssss
lol paper cards lol
Shuffling is way too much fucking work.
Especially if you're a deck stacker.
Speaking of... I played poker with a bunch of pretty proficient MtG players Saturday night (one of them is PT)... let's just say I have a newfound cynicism of "great" players. What is the point of playing strategic games with chance elements if you're going to make them as predictable as possible? Go play chess or something.
You're running awfully low on lands.
Type 2 Mill Deck
Sanity Grinding (http://magiccards.info/eve/en/29.html) x4
Countersquall (http://magiccards.info/cfx/en/103.html) x4
Shriekmaw (http://magiccards.info/lw/en/139.html) x4
Sigil Tracer (http://magiccards.info/mt/en/49.html) x3
Grimoire Thief (http://magiccards.info/mt/en/35.html) x3
Traumatize (http://magiccards.info/10e/en/119.html) x3
Memory Erosion (http://magiccards.info/ala/en/50.html) x3
Mind Funeral (http://magiccards.info/arb/en/26.html) x3
Nemesis of Reason (http://magiccards.info/arb/en/28.html) x3
Mirrorweave (http://magiccards.info/shm/en/143.html) x3
Drowner of Secrets (http://magiccards.info/lw/en/58.html) x2
Merrow Reejerey (http://magiccards.info/lw/en/74.html) x2
Stonybrook Angler (http://magiccards.info/lw/en/90.html) x2
Ink Dissolver (http://magiccards.info/mt/en/36.html) x2
Jace Beleren (http://magiccards.info/lw/en/71.html) x1
Island x 10
Swamp x 4
Underground River x 4You're running awfully low on lands.
I honestly don't know what else to cut. The rest is too useful. And I usually do pretty well on land. But that's why I'm bringing the listing here. I'd love to hear more suggestions on what to add, and what to remove. After all, the original splash black idea for creature removal was from right here. And it opened the door for more than just creature removal, as the beatstick that mills 10 every swing shows.
Edit: UPDATE FOR MWS TO INCLUDE ALARA REBORN.
http://www.mtgthesource.com/forums/showthread.php?t=13537
Follow the instructions. It's a little confusing, but you'll get there.
There's also no reason not to be running Broken Ambitions in that deck.
I'm probaby going to try out both a R/G elves tribal deck and a pure R/G haste deck when Alara Reborn comes up on MTGO. I like the elf idea better because with some pump elf shenanigans you actually board in volcanic fallout against token-heavy decks.
I built an Esper deck that got FUCKING CORNHOLED REAL BAD at my local "everything that wizards ever printed except for Unglued and Unhinged" tournament by Affinity with all the good shit and Aggro-Without-any-Control-or-Mill Merfolk. Thinking about dumping the whole lot. Any ideas about how to build a strong Esper deck?
Wait does this format have no B/R list? Esper is DOA in something like that.
I played in a draft last night and got all of these cards.
(http://sales.starcitygames.com/cardscans/MAGALARA_REBORN/NemesisofReason.jpg)
(http://sales.starcitygames.com/cardscans/MAGALARA_REBORN/LichLordofUnx.jpg)
(http://sales.starcitygames.com/cardscans/MAGALARA_REBORN/MindFuneral.jpg)
And 4 of these!
(http://sales.starcitygames.com/cardscans/MAGALARA_REBORN/EsperStormblade.jpg)
It's all luck of the draw, depending on what comes out of the packs. Apparently I was stupid for not playing black/red when I pulled three Terminates. But that was all I pulled for the colors.
I ended up playing Green Red White, which I had much better colors for. I got top 8. Look who's laughing now!
http://draft.bestiaire.org/ for all your draft practice needs
We should try using this to play some games... it exports to MWS for you. 8)
You can run a 5 man... don't think we'd ever get 8 here.
It's all luck of the draw, depending on what comes out of the packs. Apparently I was stupid for not playing black/red when I pulled three Terminates. But that was all I pulled for the colors.
I ended up playing Green Red White, which I had much better colors for. I got top 8. Look who's laughing now!
Yeah dude you should have played black red. Terminate is a first pick.
is there a way i can get in on some of this action?
no problem. if we can get enough people to use that draft tool page frag posted, we can export our draft decks to mws and play a draft online!:hyper :hyper :hyper :hyper :hyper
Me: anytime. Ok, not anytime- before noon would suck, as I like to sleep in. But I don't have any projects lined up for 2-3 weeks, so I'm available. One possible caveat is that I'm thinking of playing in a pauper tournament on MTGO tonight, so tonight might be out.
I figured this was appropriate.
(http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/3748/1197567884047.jpg)
Basking Root was the fucking shit. Man I miss U/G Madness...
Basking Root was the fucking shit. Man I miss U/G Madness...
I don't. Fuck netdecks and everyone playing 'em.
boo hoo, guess you don't like WINNING
Yeah, limited is a lot of fun- but I'm a fair to mediocre limited player and a pretty good constructed player.
The problem is that there are only so many effective archetypes out there for decks, and new cards pretty much will get shoehorned into pre-existing archetypes out of habit. That and wizards sometimes sucks at designing new sets.
I don't. Fuck netdecks and everyone playing 'em.
:-\I don't. Fuck netdecks and everyone playing 'em.
that hurts, man
jay: yeah but it's kinda shitty. you can't play instants / abilities while damage is on the stack.
just spent way too much money...needed a playset of rafiq of the many, and decided to finally bite the bullet and order a playset of birds of paradise....ugh.
just spent way too much money...needed a playset of rafiq of the many, and decided to finally bite the bullet and order a playset of birds of paradise....ugh.
gonna play that bant finest hour deck that's been going around?
As we set out to create the forthcoming Magic 2010 core set—which is a completely new approach to the core set ideal, as announced earlier this year—we opened up everything about how we make Magic cards to scrutiny in an attempt to make that set, and the game as a whole, more accessible.
Every Magic set we release—perhaps each individual card—adds complexity to the game. New terms are introduced, new bits of lingo, new names to memorize, new potential gameplay scenarios that hadn't existed before. This "complexity creep" is all but impossible to stop; it is the nature of a game with ever-expanding content. Just because we can't stop the constant addition, however, doesn't mean that we shouldn't take occasional long hard looks at everything and try to find ways to strip complexity out of the system. As we can't "unprint" cards, the best way to accomplish that goal is through updating the rules—clearing out and cleaning up overly confusing bits.
Magic's rules haven't gone under any radical changes in a decade; the last big shift was attached to the release of the Classic Sixth Edition core set in 1999. With all the re-imagining we put into Magic 2010, we took time to reexamine the rules as well. While the changes we arrived at don't approach the scope of the Sixth Edition rules changes, we did find room for improvement in a few fundamental areas.
1) Simultaneous Mulligans
The Reality: Outside of tournament play, most players do not obey the by-the-book protocol for handling mulligans in which one player resolves all of his or her mulligans before the next player resolves any of his. Instead, players mulligan more or less at the same time.
The Fix: Mulligans will now officially be handled simultaneously. This will significantly cut down on time spent shuffling before each tournament game.
2) Terminology Changes
While Magic is full of flavorful and resonant terms (graveyard, library, spell, sorcery, combat, etc.), some of our terminology is generic, vague, and/or misleading. We are making four distinct terminology changes, both in printed card sets going forward and in Oracle, to make the game both clearer and more evocative.
2A) Battlefield
The Reality: Some players are confused by the subtle difference between "play" and "put into play." The name "in-play zone" breaks the metaphor the rest of the game tries to establish.
The Fix: The in-play zone is renamed the "battlefield," which brings it in line with other flavorful zone names like "graveyard" and "library." Permanents now "enter the battlefield" or are "put onto the battlefield" as opposed to "come into play" or "put into play."
2B) Cast, Play, and Activate
The Reality: Again, some players are confused by the subtle difference between "play" and "put into play." The term "cast" was retired from game rules at the time of Classic Sixth Edition for reasons I no longer believe are relevant—to streamline the rules and condense the number of terms down at the cost of flavor. Most players today who played pre-Sixth (and some who didn't!) still use the term "cast." It makes sense for spells to be "cast" as opposed to "played."
The Fix: "Cast" is being reinstated as the verb used when referring to the act of playing spells or types of spells. "Play" is being kept as the verb associated with lands (and with cards of unspecified types). Activated abilities are also no longer "played" but rather "activated."
2C) Exile
The Reality: "Removed from the game" is increasingly a misnomer as we design more cards that use the removed-from-the-game zone as a temporary holding cell for cards that are very much still in the game. Like the "in-play zone," the name "removed-from-the-game zone" does a poor job of maintaining the game's fantasy metaphor.
The Fix: The phrase "remove from the game" is being changed to "exile," which is shorter, more flavorful, and not at all misleading about actually being in the game. The zone is now called the "exile zone" and cards in it will be referred to as "exiled cards."
2D) Beginning of the End Step
The Reality: The subtle but important difference between the phrases "at end of turn" and "until end of turn" in our card templates is a constant source of confusion for players. "At end of turn" really means "at the beginning of the end-of-turn step," which is not the actual end of the turn. In fact, it is often strategically correct to take certain actions during the end-of-turn step after "at end of turn" triggers are processed, which many players have trouble wrapping their heads around. Compounding this is the fact that "until end of turn" effects, like that of Giant Growth, last until the actual end of the turn.
The Fix: This one didn't involve the creation of any new terminology. Instead, it involves a minor rules update (changing the name of the "end-of-turn step" to the "end step") and a change in how we are templating cards. We will now refer to the time when such triggers happen as what it actually is: "at the beginning of the end step." Hopefully this will more clearly convey the existence of a window in the turn after these triggers occur during which more spells and abilities can be used. "Until end of turn" will still be used for effects with durations such as Giant Growth.
3) Mana Pools and Mana Burn
3A) Mana Pools Emptying
The Reality: Many players can't clearly distinguish between phases and steps. The fact that mana remains in pools from step to step but not phase to phase is arbitrary. The concept of floating mana from step to step is hard to understand. Mana pools, in general, should be empty most of the time that players pass priority for ease of keeping track of the game state.
The Fix: Mana pools now empty at the end of each step and phase, which means mana can no longer be floated from the upkeep to the draw step, nor from the declare attackers step to the declare blockers step of combat.
3B) Mana Burn Eliminated
The Reality: Many players aren't aware of the existence of mana burn as a game concept. Discovering it exists, especially via an opponent manipulating his own life total for gain, can be jarring. Its existence impacts game play in a negligible way, whereas its existence impacts card design space somewhat significantly.
The Fix: Mana burn is eliminated as a game concept. Mana left unspent at the end of steps or phases will simply vanish, with no accompanying loss of life.
4) Token Ownership
The Reality: The current "token ownership" rule is poorly understood, mainly because it doesn't make a ton of sense. Currently, the owner of a token is "the controller of the effect that put it into play." That means I own the tokens put into play under your control due to my Hunted Dragon or Forbidden Orchard, which allows me to do unintuitive tricks with cards like Brand or Warp World. Few people are aware of this rule, and assume that the owner of the tokens is the player under whose control they entered the battlefield.
The Fix: We are matching most players' expectation by changing the rule such that the owner of a token is, in fact, the player under whose control it entered the battlefield.
5) Combat Damage No Longer Uses the StackWHAT WHAT WHAT WHAT WHAT WHAT WHAT WHAT WHAT WHAT WHAT WHAT
The Reality: The intricate system via which combat is currently handled creates many unintuitive gameplay moments. For starters, "the stack" is a difficult concept, even after all these years, so it is no wonder that many players go about combat without invoking it at all. Second, creatures disappearing after damage has been put on the stack leads to a ton of confusion and disbelief: How is that Mogg Fanatic killing two creatures? How did that creature kill mine but make your Nantuko Husk big enough to survive? How can you Unsummon your creature and have it still deal damage? While many of us may be used to the way things are now, it makes no sense in terms of a game metaphor and only a bit more sense as a rule.
The Fix: As soon as damage is assigned in the combat damage step, it is dealt. There is no time to cast spells and activate abilities in between; the last time to do so prior to damage being dealt is during the declare blockers step.
This was a particularly tricky change to implement, as it had the potential to create bad experiences in situations where double blocking occurs and the defending player has access to a damage prevention ability (or anything similar). If damage was prevented to one creature, the attacker would just kill the other, which is unintuitive. Players expect to be able to use their healing spells to save creatures that are actually going to die. To solve problems like these, during the declare blockers step, if a creature is blocked by multiple creatures, the attacker immediately announces an order in which that attacking creature will be assigning damage to the blockers. When it comes time to actually deal the damage, lethal damage must be assigned to the first blocker before any can be assigned to the second, and so on. Now, in complex combat situations there will be some foreknowledge of which creatures are in the most danger before damage is dealt.
This is not as sweeping as it sounds. In the majority of cases, creatures attack, creatures block, and combat looks the same way it did before—minus the chance for counterintuitive tricks after "damage on." The majority of the explanation below covers multiple blocks.
6) Deathtouch
The Reality: There are two problems with deathtouch. One, the fact that it is a triggered ability leads to instances where a single creature needs to regenerate twice from a single source with deathtouch, which is unnecessarily hard to intuit. Second, the deathtouch ability as currently worded doesn't work well under the new combat rules. If a creature with deathtouch, like Kederekt Creeper, is double-blocked by two 3/3s, the new rules wouldn't allow the division of damage between the blockers, which kind of defeats the point of the card and fails to live up to expectations of how deathtouch should function.
The Fix: First, deathtouch is becoming a static ability. Creatures dealt damage by a source with deathtouch will be destroyed as a state-based effect at the same time lethal damage would kill them. As a side effect, multiple instances of deathtouch will no longer be cumulative. Second, deathtouch allows a double-blocked creature to ignore the new damage assignment rules and split its damage among any number of creatures it's in combat with however its controller wants to.
7) Lifelink
The Reality: The fact that lifelink is a triggered ability leads to situations where the controller of a blocker with lifelink dies from combat damage before lifelink can grant that player enough life to stay alive. Many players get this interaction wrong; the subtle difference in timing is unfortunate.
The Fix: Lifelink, like deathtouch, is turning into a static ability. If a source with lifelink deals damage, its controller gains that much life as that damage is being dealt. This brings the timing much closer to spells like Consume Spirit and Lightning Helix. As a side effect, multiple instances of lifelink are no longer cumulative.
The new combat damage stack rules are garbage. Less shenanigans means less clever ways to use spells like unsummon.
(http://gatherer.wizards.com/Handlers/Image.ashx?multiverseid=183017&type=card) + (http://gatherer.wizards.com/Handlers/Image.ashx?multiverseid=126215&type=card) + (http://gatherer.wizards.com/Handlers/Image.ashx?multiverseid=189649&type=card)
= infinite turns
I dont think the combo is as fragile as it looks. All you need is one sword of the meek one thopter foundry and the time sieve.
You can tutor the cards using this
(http://www.mtgotraders.com/store/media/products/ravnica/Muddle_the_Mixture.jpg)
And then just sac a sword to get a thopter sword comes back repeat 5 times sac 5 artifacts to take an extra turn rinse wash repeat. Your opponent wont be able to take another turn again.
Its definitely a good combo but once your opponent knows about it... theres aways going to be untapped mana and a ______ kill spell waiting
How the fuck are you supposed to beat ichorid decks?!?!?! That shit is OBSCENE. I actually won a game against ichorid, but I had THE GOD DRAW (10/10 lifelink flyer turn one), and they had the shittiest possible draw.
someone buy magic XBLA and boost with me or play co-op (at least i think it has online co-op)
someone buy magic XBLA and boost with me or play co-op (at least i think it has online co-op)
eh I got the game on XBLA. If some of you Borritos want a play through and I'm online message me or something.
eh I got the game on XBLA. If some of you Borritos want a play through and I'm online message me or something.
How is it? i have 800 points in limbo. If enough people here would buy it, I'd jump in.
eh I got the game on XBLA. If some of you Borritos want a play through and I'm online message me or something.
How is it? i have 800 points in limbo. If enough people here would buy it, I'd jump in.
I'm enjoying it so far. It's fairly simplified though. A distinguished mentally-challenged monkey could play it, but you know the saying about monkeys, typewriters, and Shakespeare.
Limited customization on decks is going to lead to cookie-cutter playstyles on XBL, which is going to lead to shit for originality, because there's going to be one deck type that everyone plays with exactly the same cards. If you have been to a T2 tournament recently, you know exactly what this feels like. Only when you play IRL, you have to buy the cards. On the XBLA game, you just play a little longer, get some unlockables, and put them in your deck.
That being said, I'll probably be playing it when I get home. I haven't activated my Gold account yet, but if someone wants to play, I might. I'm gonna try to beat single player first though so I can get all the unlockable cards. But, I would like some two-headed ogre play. Especially since I've been swinging for around 25-30 a turn with the deck I'm playing. Green fatties yay. A 12/12 bear is nothing to laugh about.
eh I got the game on XBLA. If some of you Borritos want a play through and I'm online message me or something.
How is it? i have 800 points in limbo. If enough people here would buy it, I'd jump in.
I'm enjoying it so far. It's fairly simplified though. A distinguished mentally-challenged monkey could play it, but you know the saying about monkeys, typewriters, and Shakespeare.
Limited customization on decks is going to lead to cookie-cutter playstyles on XBL, which is going to lead to shit for originality, because there's going to be one deck type that everyone plays with exactly the same cards. If you have been to a T2 tournament recently, you know exactly what this feels like. Only when you play IRL, you have to buy the cards. On the XBLA game, you just play a little longer, get some unlockables, and put them in your deck.
That being said, I'll probably be playing it when I get home. I haven't activated my Gold account yet, but if someone wants to play, I might. I'm gonna try to beat single player first though so I can get all the unlockable cards. But, I would like some two-headed ogre play. Especially since I've been swinging for around 25-30 a turn with the deck I'm playing. Green fatties yay. A 12/12 bear is nothing to laugh about.
Yea, jaybo hit it on the head. Yea that green deck is nasty with the fatties. I hit with a 26/26 Grizzly Bears one game. Got an achievement for it too :)
eh I got the game on XBLA. If some of you Borritos want a play through and I'm online message me or something.
How is it? i have 800 points in limbo. If enough people here would buy it, I'd jump in.
I'm enjoying it so far. It's fairly simplified though. A distinguished mentally-challenged monkey could play it, but you know the saying about monkeys, typewriters, and Shakespeare.
Limited customization on decks is going to lead to cookie-cutter playstyles on XBL, which is going to lead to shit for originality, because there's going to be one deck type that everyone plays with exactly the same cards. If you have been to a T2 tournament recently, you know exactly what this feels like. Only when you play IRL, you have to buy the cards. On the XBLA game, you just play a little longer, get some unlockables, and put them in your deck.
That being said, I'll probably be playing it when I get home. I haven't activated my Gold account yet, but if someone wants to play, I might. I'm gonna try to beat single player first though so I can get all the unlockable cards. But, I would like some two-headed ogre play. Especially since I've been swinging for around 25-30 a turn with the deck I'm playing. Green fatties yay. A 12/12 bear is nothing to laugh about.
Yea, jaybo hit it on the head. Yea that green deck is nasty with the fatties. I hit with a 26/26 Grizzly Bears one game. Got an achievement for it too :)
I was playing one game against Jace with the green deck, and had ten lands out. I used the card that gave a 2/2 wolf token for every forest you control, and then next turn double-overran. Not to mention the two 5/4 wurms with the +1/+1 for every forest you control enchantments on them. Let me do some quick calculations.
2 5/4 wurms with +10/+10
10 2/2 Wolf tokens
Everything gets +6/+6 and trample until end of turn
Swing out.
That's 42 DMG with just the two wurms, iirc.
80 with just the wolves.
That's 122 damage, trampling.
Eat your heart out, Jace.
Man that situation desperately cries out for a Fog. Or Evacuation.
eh I got the game on XBLA. If some of you Borritos want a play through and I'm online message me or something.
How is it? i have 800 points in limbo. If enough people here would buy it, I'd jump in.
I'm enjoying it so far. It's fairly simplified though. A distinguished mentally-challenged monkey could play it, but you know the saying about monkeys, typewriters, and Shakespeare.
Limited customization on decks is going to lead to cookie-cutter playstyles on XBL, which is going to lead to shit for originality, because there's going to be one deck type that everyone plays with exactly the same cards. If you have been to a T2 tournament recently, you know exactly what this feels like. Only when you play IRL, you have to buy the cards. On the XBLA game, you just play a little longer, get some unlockables, and put them in your deck.
That being said, I'll probably be playing it when I get home. I haven't activated my Gold account yet, but if someone wants to play, I might. I'm gonna try to beat single player first though so I can get all the unlockable cards. But, I would like some two-headed ogre play. Especially since I've been swinging for around 25-30 a turn with the deck I'm playing. Green fatties yay. A 12/12 bear is nothing to laugh about.
Yea, jaybo hit it on the head. Yea that green deck is nasty with the fatties. I hit with a 26/26 Grizzly Bears one game. Got an achievement for it too :)
I was playing one game against Jace with the green deck, and had ten lands out. I used the card that gave a 2/2 wolf token for every forest you control, and then next turn double-overran. Not to mention the two 5/4 wurms with the +1/+1 for every forest you control enchantments on them. Let me do some quick calculations.
2 5/4 wurms with +10/+10
10 2/2 Wolf tokens
Everything gets +6/+6 and trample until end of turn
Swing out.
That's 42 DMG with just the two wurms, iirc.
80 with just the wolves.
That's 122 damage, trampling.
Eat your heart out, Jace.
Yea, my games never really lasted that long. Usually if I had 6-7 mana out the game was nearly over or over in the next 2-3 turns. Although I will say that the second time through against the green deck you play with at the start is a bitch for me for some reason. The guy plays a land and monster every fracken turn.
What I want, more than anything... is a MTG game where you have basic cards from every set, with the possibility of unlocking everything else in that set by playing through it. I want to play with any deck I put together.
It'd be broken, yeah. Hella broken. But so much fun.
I've only done the first one so far. I stared at it for about five minutes before trying it, but I got it right on the first go. I'm just kinda lazy when it comes to challenges. I may go in and do them tonight. But I think I'm going to just do single player first. I have yet to lose a match.
It's complicated.
eh? the challenges were fucking cake. Ive done all but one, most on the 1st try. I guess I have played the cardboard game for 14 years or so...
Im stuck on the one where youre playing the mono-blue deck. Cant figure out how to get that last point of damage in!
Captain of the Watch:drool Insta-3 2/2's with Vigilance. Kind of a high cost for much play, but it's definitely interesting.
Creature - Human Soldier 4WW
Vigilance
Other Soldier creatures you control get +1/+1 and have vigilance.
When Captain of the Watch enters the battlefield, put three 1/1 white Soldier creature tokens onto the battlefield.
Illus. Greg Staples #6/249 3/3
Hive Mind
Enchantment 6U
Whenever a player casts an instant or sorcery spell, each other player copies that spell. Each of those players may choose new targets for his or her copy.
"All consciousness is one, separated only by a thin veil of the physical." -Jace Beleren
Illus. Steve Argyle
Protean Hydra
Creature - Hydra XG
Protean Hydra enters the battlefield with X +1/+1 counters on it.
If damage would be dealt to Protean Hydra, prevent that damage and remove that many +1/+1 counters from it.
Whenever a +1/+1 counter is removed from Protean Hydra, put two +1/+1 counters on it at the beginning of the end step.
Illus. Jim Murray 0/0
Elvish Archdruid
Creature - Elf Druid 1GG
Other Elf creatures you control get +1/+1.
T: Add G to your mana pool for each Elf you control.
Illus. Karl Kopinski 2/2
It is complicated and we just discovered weed vaporization a week ago. That BTW, IS GLORIOUS
It's complicated.
:lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol
Magic: The Gathering is a card game where the two (or more) players play as opposing wizards, and their decks of cards are considered their mind, from which they pull spells and creatures that they may use against the other player in order to reduce their life total to zero, make them run out of cards in their deck, or another alternate win strategy. It is a strategy game, and a pretty fun one at that.
Here's a few good links that explain the basis. I'd link videos, but I'm at work and they've got it locked down tighter than Auschwitz in here.
http://www.howtodothings.com/hobbies/a3413-how-to-play-magic-the-gathering.html
http://www.ehow.com/how_2090329_play-magic-gathering.html
Official rulebooks:
http://www.wizards.com/Magic/TCG/Article.aspx?x=magic/rules
It's complicated.
:lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol
Magic: The Gathering is a card game where the two (or more) players play as opposing wizards, and their decks of cards are considered their mind, from which they pull spells and creatures that they may use against the other player in order to reduce their life total to zero, make them run out of cards in their deck, or another alternate win strategy. It is a strategy game, and a pretty fun one at that.
Here's a few good links that explain the basis. I'd link videos, but I'm at work and they've got it locked down tighter than Auschwitz in here.
http://www.howtodothings.com/hobbies/a3413-how-to-play-magic-the-gathering.html
http://www.ehow.com/how_2090329_play-magic-gathering.html
Official rulebooks:
http://www.wizards.com/Magic/TCG/Article.aspx?x=magic/rules
Well, that's one large world of Magic. I can see why people are so immersed in it.
1:41am
Billy
anyways
bed is summoning me.
1:41am
Jason
good plan
1:41am
Billy
and since I'll be summoning sick
1:42am
Billy
I won't be able to do anything
until my next turn
which will be sometime tomorrow
1:42am
Jason
lawl
pz
1:42am
Billy
god
did I really just say that?
1:42am
Jason
yes
yes you did
and I might paste it to EB
1:43am
Billy
we shall never speak of this again >_>
1:43am
Jason
until we speak of it in the MTG thread, that is
1:43am
Billy
no
lol
never means never
Quote
1:41am
Billy
anyways
bed is summoning me.
1:41am
Jason
good plan
1:41am
Billy
and since I'll be summoning sick
1:42am
Billy
I won't be able to do anything
until my next turn
which will be sometime tomorrow
1:42am
Jason
lawl
pz
1:42am
Billy
god
did I really just say that?
1:42am
Jason
yes
yes you did
and I might paste it to EB
1:43am
Billy
we shall never speak of this again >_>
1:43am
Jason
until we speak of it in the MTG thread, that is
1:43am
Billy
no
lol
never means never
Just because you want to watch.
So I made a LD/Sligh deck that I believe could run with just about anything.
Tehjaybo, I do hereby challenge you to a Magic: The Gathering duel!
RED DECK WINS! RED DECK WINS!
You son of a bitch I JUST filed my card away in the garage. Next time I'm out there I'll grab my number.
Also, anyone else going to a release party tonight?
And M10 as a whole feels really comfortable to come home to, as compared to how esoteric the expansions seem to get.
Also, since this thread hasn't been up here in a while, what is everyone playing at the moment?
I'm going to be playing my warp world deck.
I'll trade you a ball for any dual land other than the Red-Black or Green-White one.
I'm gonna get creamed at the PTQ, but I really want to just go and have fun.
I'm going to be playing my warp world deck.
I'm going to be playing my warp world deck.
I grabbed a Warp World while drafting last Friday. I'd love to know how you're going to use it!
FoC, I think we have two Blue-Black duals up for trade. What would get you to throw in a BL or two?
EDIT: Also, Lorwyn Reflecting Pools. Billy doesn't want the Ball Lightnings, but I do... :teehee
FoC, I think we have two Blue-Black duals up for trade. What would get you to throw in a BL or two?
EDIT: Also, Lorwyn Reflecting Pools. Billy doesn't want the Ball Lightnings, but I do... :teehee
I only have one ball lightening.
How many relentless rats do you have?
Do you have any volcanic fallouts for trade?
Path to Exiles?
Do you any of you have any goofball multiplayer styles of play worth sharing? I just started playing what I guess is called "Mini-Masters"... a fun way to play around with the boosters instead of just cracking 'em open.
Each player opens two booster packs. Add three of each color land to it, and that's it! You play with what you got. For spice, each player can throw in a booster pack for the winner to keep.
It's goofy but it's a nice change o' pace. :P
Do you any of you have any goofball multiplayer styles of play worth sharing? I just started playing what I guess is called "Mini-Masters"... a fun way to play around with the boosters instead of just cracking 'em open.
Each player opens two booster packs. Add three of each color land to it, and that's it! You play with what you got. For spice, each player can throw in a booster pack for the winner to keep.
It's goofy but it's a nice change o' pace. :P
Official Elder Dragon Highlander (EDH) Rules
We do something with some of our friends where we pull out 12 random stupid good enchantments, then roll a D12 at the beginning of the game, and then roll a D6 to see how many turns the enchantment stays out. One turn is ticked down for every player turn. The enchantment counts for everyone as though it were theirs, but can not be removed from the game with any card. It gets kinda funny.
Necropotence :drool
And Mental Magic :-Xspoiler (click to show/hide)I just suck at it, it's really fun if you can remember older cards. :-\[close]
FoC, we have two Blue-Black duals for trade, and 6 Relentless Rats from 2010, maybe more from other sets if I actually look.
Have any messengers? I don't think you can PM on here.
Official Elder Dragon Highlander (EDH) Rules
Yeah I looked up the site that you're quoting from and... I still don't get it. What is a "general"?We do something with some of our friends where we pull out 12 random stupid good enchantments, then roll a D12 at the beginning of the game, and then roll a D6 to see how many turns the enchantment stays out. One turn is ticked down for every player turn. The enchantment counts for everyone as though it were theirs, but can not be removed from the game with any card. It gets kinda funny.
Necropotence :drool
That sounds fun! I'll have to try that sometime.
I got your message, but I can't respond. I used to be able to. Not sure what happened. Anyway I'm still up for the trade if you are.
What kind of deck are you building?
I got your message, but I can't respond. I used to be able to. Not sure what happened. Anyway I'm still up for the trade if you are.
What kind of deck are you building?
I think the question would be what kind of decks are tehjaybo, myself, and our friend brandon not building. We currently have jund/mannequine, sig/jund, sanity grinding/mill, time sieve, cruel control, naya/turbo fog, combo elves, master transmuter, and bant/finest hour. (given a few decks have to have stuff swapped back and forth, but we're taking 8 complete decks with us tomorrow to play.
WTF Baneslayer is a mythic???
Bought my first singles since getting back in. :hyper
- 2x Indestructibility, Magic 2010
- 3x Lightning Bolt, Magic 2010
- 2x Lightwielder Paladin, Magic 2010
- 3x Razorfoot Griffin, Magic 2010
- 3x Rhox Pikemaster, Magic 2010
- 4x White Knight, Magic 2010
- 4x Serra Angel, Magic 2010
- 4x Sigiled Paladin, Shards of Alara
Did anyone bother to reserve a copy of this "From the Vaults: Exiled"... I dunno, is it a BOOSTER pack or something? 15 cards, all banned or restricted... reprinted, foil style. MSRP = $34. Local stores selling them for over $100 ON THE DAY IT CAME OUT. :(
Did anyone bother to reserve a copy of this "From the Vaults: Exiled"... I dunno, is it a BOOSTER pack or something? 15 cards, all banned or restricted... reprinted, foil style. MSRP = $34. Local stores selling them for over $100 ON THE DAY IT CAME OUT. :(
Blood Extractor - BB
Creature - Vampire Spirit
Blood Extractor can't block.
Blood Extractor has haste if an opponent has 10 life or less.
Landfall - Whenever a land enters the battlefield under your control, you may return Blood Abomination from your graveyard onto the battlefield.
Lavaball Trap - 6RR
Instant - Trap
If an opponent had two or more lands enter the battlefield under his or her control this turn, you may pay 3RR rather than pay Lavaball Trap’s casting cost.
Destroy two target lands. Lavaball Trap deals 4 damage to each creature.
Valakut, the Molten Pinnacle
Land Rare
Valakut, the Molten Pinnacle enters the battlefield tapped.
Whenever a Mountain enters the battlefield under your control, if you control five other Mountains, Valakut, the Molten Pinnacle deals 3 damage to target creature or player.
{T}: Add {R} to your mana pool.
I *really* do not like taplands in mono-red, and a tapland that needs five other lands in mono-red? Man, if the dude isn't dead by the time you hit six lands playing as mono-red you lose anyway, this thing isn't going to help.
QuoteValakut, the Molten Pinnacle
Land Rare
Valakut, the Molten Pinnacle enters the battlefield tapped.
Whenever a Mountain enters the battlefield under your control, if you control five other Mountains, Valakut, the Molten Pinnacle deals 3 damage to target creature or player.
{T}: Add {R} to your mana pool.
Hellooooooooooooooooooo mono-red comeback.
Warp world with this land means game over.
Morph rocked you take that back.
Morph rocked you take that back.
Morph rocked you take that back.
meh so cancel is getting printed in zen. garbage.
This, however, is damn nice. Welcome back Harrow! A great early play, you get an extra land drop and they come in untapped so you can still do something else that turn. Fantastic in control decks for obvious reasons but with the (so far) weak mana bases green and control just won't work out I don't think.
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Just out of curiousity why do you always refer to yourself in magic threads as "we"
Don't you ever build decks by yourself to compete with whoever this other person is?
Anyone getting Planechase? I'm going to the presale event this weekend just to get the Tezzum promo planecard, but I don't know if I want to shell out lots of money for WotC's answer to Chaos Magic. We'll see once I play it.
I'm kinda confused as to why one of my local stores is having a Planechase pre-release tonight for $20, yet a different store is having it for $25. I think the more store selling them for $25 is having the extra $5 go towards prizes, but I thought Planechase was all about the casual format.
Huh. I'll probably be out $50 when it's all over with ;)
:omg :omg :omg
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Pfft. Old and busted. Meet the new hotness:
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Can you say double Siege Gang Commander on turn three, boys and girls? Can you imagine the hole in your opponents' anoos when you do that? I knew you could, boys and girls!
alright, pre-ordered a box of Zendikar. Will open it with 2 friends, 1 gram of speed and at least 40 beers
Good luck getting four Warren Instigators out of two boxes!
So the store that I played Planechase in on Friday for $20 - all I got was the Planechase set, no promo card or anything (he gave the promo cards to the people who won their matches, which I thought was odd since this was supposed to be all about casual, but whatever). On Saturday I played at a different store for $25... got the promo card AND a M10 booster. The owner was also giving a booster to everyone who won a match.
I bought the R/G Elemental one and the mono-black Zombie one. Good fun!
Yeah, over my dead Master of Etheriums :lolI'm kinda confused as to why one of my local stores is having a Planechase pre-release tonight for $20, yet a different store is having it for $25. I think the more store selling them for $25 is having the extra $5 go towards prizes, but I thought Planechase was all about the casual format.
Huh. I'll probably be out $50 when it's all over with ;)
Some stores just suck less... :lol
Cosmic Oasis had Standard + Planechase for 24. I was totally down with that. Played 5CC Cruel Archangel, did okay, no top 8 though. Got the zombie Planechase deck, it's pretty fun. We had a ton of fun with the planechase games. In the main tournament, I got first place with planechase.
Packs :rock
I just kind of wish that they'd have the balls to print useful lands at uncommon. Assembling a manabase is one of the most cost prohibitive things stopping me from really getting back in the game. I do like the synergy between the fetch lands and the landfall mechanic, tho- wonder if rampant growth sees print in this set too. Probably not, as harrow is being reprinted and that would kind of be too many of a similar spell I guess.
Well, assuming they stick to the 5 planeswalkers per set rule, I guess the Blue planeswalker could be pretty awesome. A preview card being shown on daily mtg tomorrow is supposedly "the most broken card printed in years" so take that for what it's worth.
Although, Shards had Nicol Bolas appear in the middle expansion. So maybe the 3 planeswalkers we've already seen are all we're gonna get. Who knows.
I just can't win a fucking draft on MGTO or IRL to save my life
why do I play this stupid fucking game
http://draft.bestiaire.org/
Practice drafting, dog.
Turn one bird/elf. Turn two play the cobra before land drop, drop a fetchland to get another land. Play a two drop. Fucking gross implications. Works with Rampant Growth and Harrow too. Jesus Tittyfucking Christ this card is broken in all formats.unbelievably broken. Seriously...after dropping it turn to in that scenario you have three available mana to spend in addition to the snake you just played.
Turn three Baneslayer Angel.
TURN THREE BANESLAYER ANGEL.
I mean Jesus Fucking Christ. Sooooooo broken.
Everyone better stock up on them creature removal spells. Looks like the legs are prevailing this set. Also fuck for the broken card to be green. Fucking green.
Everyone better stock up on them creature removal spells. Looks like the legs are prevailing this set. Also fuck for the broken card to be green. Fucking green.
Everyone better stock up on them creature removal spells. Looks like the legs are prevailing this set. Also fuck for the broken card to be green. Fucking green.
b/g ramp control, dude. Toss down lands to play your spells and keep them lands untapped to counter anything your bitch ass opponent does.
Still wanna see if there's gonna be a blue planeswalker, tho.
Hedron Crab U
Creature - Crab Uncommon
Landfall - Whenever a land enters the battlefield under your control,
target player puts the top three cards of his or her library into his
or her graveyard.
0/2
Trapmaker's Snare
1u
Instant Uncommon
Search your library for a Trap card, reveal it,
and put it into your hand.
Then shuffle your libary.
also you might mention (in as non-dickish of a way as possible) that another store you play at has no trouble updating the info. HINT HINT.
That (and the fact that my town doesn't have even a FNM game at any of the shops in town) are why I'm a MTGO exclusivo.
Plus, I like having physical cards. It's awesome to be able to play anyone, anytime, anywhere online... but it sucks to not be able to do anything other than your basic standard Magic. Can't play any variants outside of the approved ones on MTGO, can't cube draft...
Do the events have atleast 8 people in them? Anything under 8 can't be DCI sanctioned, so they wouldn't be able to give points for that. Other than that, tell them to get off their asses.
And what's your DCI number? I wanna see how I rank up against the rest of MagicBore.
What are you building?
Also, is anyone trading Zendikar stuff? Even though we got the boxes, we are still looking for some more cards, not to mention some 2010 stuff still. Will post a list later.
What are you building?
Working on a mill deck!
I've got a long ways to go before I make anything really playable, but I'm hella intrigued by blue's Archive Trap and Hedron Crab possibilities... maybe throw in some Tome Scours and a Traumatize? And a bunch of counter / bounce shit to send any threats back to my opponents' hand.
punish ignorance is a terrible card.
Just a rule in general, worrying about life totals is for noobs. You win by making your opponent get to 0, not by gaining life.
Kitchen Finks
Just a rule in general, worrying about life totals is for noobs. You win by making your opponent get to 0, not by gaining life.
you clearly never watched cruel control rape kithkin....there's a reason it was a better deck. This deck is modeled after cruel control. Also, the punish ignorance is not so much about the gaining three life as it is them losing three life...not to mention, a six point life swing totally fucks with the tempo of a weenie deck.
You're gonna sit there for 2 or 3 turns waiting to cast it on my"bomb" while I destroy you with my riverboa.
Just a rule in general, worrying about life totals is for noobs. You win by making your opponent get to 0, not by gaining life.
you clearly never watched cruel control rape kithkin....there's a reason it was a better deck. This deck is modeled after cruel control. Also, the punish ignorance is not so much about the gaining three life as it is them losing three life...not to mention, a six point life swing totally fucks with the tempo of a weenie deck.
What tournament level deck used punish ignorance? I went to the PTQ in san antonio and beat 3 5CC decks and didnt see one punish ignorance.
Here is my rundown of Standard counterspells
Negate>Essence Scatter>Cancel>Spell Pierce>Counter Squall>Double Negative>>>>>>>>>Punish Ignorance
Warp World decks are a lot better in theory than in execution
Time Sieve and warp world have interesting and unique game interactions punishing ignorance does not.
Well I mean yeah, given Chieftain would come out first, but Coat is more of a "Late Game Holy Shit Button" card.
I can't PM unless you PM me first. :-\
You open the packs, you sort the cards (alphabetically, or by card type, or some other way. The tournament officials will tell you how to do it), you write down the cards (known as a card pool), and then… they take the cards away from you.
Why, because it time for the A deck swap.
The great thing about a deck swap, is that one person will record exactly what cards are in a card pool, without knowing who will actually get to use those cards in the tournament. This means that if this person were to cheat, and add good cards, they would be helping someone at random, not themselves. If a player tries to add a card after the deck swap, the judges will have the decklist to prove that the cards added were not originally opened by the first person who registered the card pool. This will be discovered when the judges perform a deck check.
I'm going to my first PTQ tomorrow. Any advice?
I've been reading the FAQs (http://cascadegames.com/pages/new_to_events) for the event, and they mention something I've never dealt with before:QuoteYou open the packs, you sort the cards (alphabetically, or by card type, or some other way. The tournament officials will tell you how to do it), you write down the cards (known as a card pool), and then… they take the cards away from you.
Why, because it time for the A deck swap.
The great thing about a deck swap, is that one person will record exactly what cards are in a card pool, without knowing who will actually get to use those cards in the tournament. This means that if this person were to cheat, and add good cards, they would be helping someone at random, not themselves. If a player tries to add a card after the deck swap, the judges will have the decklist to prove that the cards added were not originally opened by the first person who registered the card pool. This will be discovered when the judges perform a deck check.
So I'm going to open my six boosters, give them to an official, then they'll give me 90 cards that someone else opened?
You'll open your six packs, sort them out, and record what was pulled. You don't keep these. Then, an official will give you a pack that someone else sorted just like you did, and that is what you will build with.
The format of the ptq is Zendikar sealed, right? Well, if you're not familiar with it I'd suggest going to some good sites and read up on it.
:piss sealed
...if there's interest, I'd be more than willing to start it up, maybe even with prizes?
Limited is another story altogether, tho. I must have gotten really, really good at evaluating draft picks, because I'm consistently winning drafts now. I guess it helps when people in my pod inexplicably DON'T DRAFT BLACK AT ALL when it's easily the best color in triple Zendikar draft. Yesterday I drafted a SICK mono black deck- 3 disfigures, 2 hideous ends, gatekeeper of malakir, vampire nighthawk, malakir bloodwitch etc etc. I've been piling up store credit from my draft wins and am gonna put together a White Weenie deck and probably a Vampires deck. Stupid fetchlands are expensive, tho.
Limited is another story altogether, tho. I must have gotten really, really good at evaluating draft picks, because I'm consistently winning drafts now. I guess it helps when people in my pod inexplicably DON'T DRAFT BLACK AT ALL when it's easily the best color in triple Zendikar draft. Yesterday I drafted a SICK mono black deck- 3 disfigures, 2 hideous ends, gatekeeper of malakir, vampire nighthawk, malakir bloodwitch etc etc. I've been piling up store credit from my draft wins and am gonna put together a White Weenie deck and probably a Vampires deck. Stupid fetchlands are expensive, tho.
I tried going monoblack in a sealed tourney online and got my fucking ass handed to me. I'm on a bad luck streak right now :'(
How high do you value a Trusty Machete? I'll pick that up over just about anything.
I'd take a Machete over just about anything not named Vampire Nighthawk.
I'm having second thoughts on going to Extended PTQ honestly.. I don't think I'm good enough to place, and while I enjoy playing, I really like playing in a slower format where the game isn't over with me at negative one million life in three turns. I may just hold out for Worldwake and hang out with womenfolk this weekend. :pimp
But that being said, I'm very tempted to make a blue white mill deck. I just need to wait for the rest of Worldwake to HURRY UP AND BE SPOILED so I can check out the Allys. It will probably be a Ally mill deck, because I have some unreasonable hardon for mill.
M:TG's constructed format is so great because of the diverse metagame-when they don't have too much degenerate cards in the rotating sets, there's a whole swath of valid decks, and unless you are playing in a PTQ or something you can bring in homebrew and do OK as long as you test it well.
FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
Selective Memory
3U (rare)
Remove any number of nonland cards in your library from the game, then shuffle your library.
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It's only cruddy for Standard, really. For limited it will be really fun, and honestly I like limited more than constructed anyhow.
This set is FANTASTIC in my playgroup/legacy/vintage though! (No banned/restricted list)
Honestly, I'm kind of disappointed that Rise of the Eldrazi is supposedly going to abandon the stuff (landfall, allies, etc) that have made Zendikar block so awesome so far. Allies especially, just another relatively cheap White ally that got +1/1 counters would have made it a valid WW deck.
This set is FANTASTIC in my playgroup/legacy/vintage though! (No banned/restricted list)
Ugh, that's such a turn-off. HEY I'VE BEEN PLAYING THE LONGEST/SPENT THE MOST MONEY, WHO WANTS TO LOSE TO A CHANNEL/FIREBALL???
So did yawl do the prerelease? I did! Pulled a Abyssal Persecutor and a Bazaar Trader - holy shit, I wanted to pull off that combo so badly but it never happened (I did beat my 1st opponent by smashing them with the 'Persecutor until they were -1, and then I used my own removal spells on it). It was 7 rounds, swiss, and I went 2-3 before I dropped.
I'll be playing again tomorrow... hope I do better!
Did you pull any Amulet of Vigors? I want them bad.
NERD
I'm pretty sure PD has never sexed anybody
I'm drafting tomorrow night, then Saturday is the release event and I guess I'll probably play in the sealed.
Dude opened a box today with THREE Jaces in it. Everyone wanted to punch him.
I'm drafting tomorrow night, then Saturday is the release event and I guess I'll probably play in the sealed.
Dude opened a box today with THREE Jaces in it. Everyone wanted to punch him.
opened my four boxes yesterday and was thrilled that I got one in every box. That's just ridiculous.
Khalni Hydra (yeah right, I'm gonna cast an eight green mana spell in limited)ty sick.
How the fuck did he put together a mono green deck with six packs? Dude probably traded with someone else at his table.
Just as a worthless contribution, I'm an oddball in that I like playing Magic, but I hate building decks.
fuck I just discovered the EDH format this week. Soooooo much fun.
Made a very nasty Black/Red deck with Kaervek the Merciless as commander. Was quite effective but not enough synergy with the cards. Having a Pandemonium on the board with Kaervek was insane though.
Working on a Black/Blue/White EDH deck now with Zur the Enchanter as commander. It's got the potential to set up some crazy combos and locks.
Do you play EDH, Creepy Old Guy?
Magoose got bored with a hobby that requires money? Tell me more.
so what's the top tier deck these days? i searched for a while and read there is some R/G thingie that can lay the beatdown pretty fast thanks to some devotion mechanic or something?
Yeah, that's modern for you. I got pissy when they banned Seething Song (had a Storm-Ascension deck) and sold all my shit. I haven't played in about a year and have no real urge to, despite the fact that I basically make my living off of this stuff. Familiarity breeds contempt, etc etc.
Yeah, that's modern for you. I got pissy when they banned Seething Song (had a Storm-Ascension deck) and sold all my shit. I haven't played in about a year and have no real urge to, despite the fact that I basically make my living off of this stuff. Familiarity breeds contempt, etc etc.
You own a shop or something?
Yeah, that's modern for you. I got pissy when they banned Seething Song (had a Storm-Ascension deck) and sold all my shit. I haven't played in about a year and have no real urge to, despite the fact that I basically make my living off of this stuff. Familiarity breeds contempt, etc etc.
You own a shop or something?
No, but I work for one of if not the largest 3rd party resellers for MTGO, so basically I work for a shop. The game has gotten insanely popular in the last year and a half, and we're doing gangbusters for sales, but our customer base online is... god bless them, they're special.
Yeah, that's modern for you. I got pissy when they banned Seething Song (had a Storm-Ascension deck) and sold all my shit. I haven't played in about a year and have no real urge to, despite the fact that I basically make my living off of this stuff. Familiarity breeds contempt, etc etc.
You own a shop or something?
No, but I work for one of if not the largest 3rd party resellers for MTGO, so basically I work for a shop. The game has gotten insanely popular in the last year and a half, and we're doing gangbusters for sales, but our customer base online is... god bless them, they're special.
Ah. Academy?
But yeah, when WotC fixes MTGOs shit, I'll be going back there.
Hex is an unplayable mess right now. As much as I hate the mtgo client, it's at least usable 90% of the time. I use online card game clients for a living, and trust me when I say- Hex is an unusable clusterfuck of epic proportions. I wish I could get my KS money back.
Sometimes I really feel like MtG succeeds IN SPITE OF the people making it. Although, apparently everyone else loves that spells have been nerfed and creatures buffed, so wtf do I know. Creatures are disgusting and usually only good if they come attached to lands so that they have some marginal value otherwise. And, of course, Snapcaster Mage.
Sometimes I really feel like MtG succeeds IN SPITE OF the people making it. Although, apparently everyone else loves that spells have been nerfed and creatures buffed, so wtf do I know. Creatures are disgusting and usually only good if they come attached to lands so that they have some marginal value otherwise. And, of course, Snapcaster Mage.
Sometimes I really feel like MtG succeeds IN SPITE OF the people making it. Although, apparently everyone else loves that spells have been nerfed and creatures buffed, so wtf do I know. Creatures are disgusting and usually only good if they come attached to lands so that they have some marginal value otherwise. And, of course, Snapcaster Mage.
I think anyone who's played through a dark time in Magic (and I mean an actual dark time like Mirrodin block pre-bannings, not whatever you fucking noobs are whining about in Standard) knows that the people running the game really aren't as professional as they think they are. Video game studios don't routinely tap up MLG for talent, but Magic constantly goes back to the Pro Tour for R&D instead of sifting through PhDs or designers of competing product.
R&D can design to satisfy focus testing instead of designing fresh ideas. May they have all the continued success in the world, I'm not going to take a version of the game where Mana Leak is considered OP sersiously.
As someone who's last Magic pack happened to be purchased before the 4th edition. What is up with Magic? I bought a 2014 battle booster set to try out some new cards. I'm still a new even to this day. Things seem much more organized than they were back in 95, thanks internet. I'm building a deck of ice age/betas/fallen empires/unlimited to show of this friday. What are some good boosters or decks to be on the lookout for? Also what is up with the console game and physical cards? Someone told me you can get decks from playing that.
Just bought duels of the planeswalkers/magic 2014.
Pretty fun. I missed playing this.
Sometimes I really feel like MtG succeeds IN SPITE OF the people making it. Although, apparently everyone else loves that spells have been nerfed and creatures buffed, so wtf do I know. Creatures are disgusting and usually only good if they come attached to lands so that they have some marginal value otherwise. And, of course, Snapcaster Mage.
I think anyone who's played through a dark time in Magic (and I mean an actual dark time like Mirrodin block pre-bannings, not whatever you fucking noobs are whining about in Standard) knows that the people running the game really aren't as professional as they think they are. Video game studios don't routinely tap up MLG for talent, but Magic constantly goes back to the Pro Tour for R&D instead of sifting through PhDs or designers of competing product.
R&D can design to satisfy focus testing instead of designing fresh ideas. May they have all the continued success in the world, I'm not going to take a version of the game where Mana Leak is considered OP sersiously.
Really, I don't mind the Mana Burn being gone. The spell-stack change is just :what worthy, though. I should be able to counter a counter to my counter to your creature spell if I have the cards and mana to burn. It made sense since they even made the instruction manual (paraphrasing) "roleplay your casts" kind of thing. Now you have to go "okay, well if you're bringing that thing in. I'm gonna counter now," stop-turn a la the DotP apps.
The create buff while spell nerf I don't have a huge opinion on since I play super casually but I HATE that the creature buff screws with some older legacy cards so unless you sharpie over stuff like Elves or other fodder that are now 2/2 instead of 1/1 it's hard to remember all these changes for legacy.
Someone compared Magic to Marvel vs Capcom 3 and the comparison is kinda apt.
My friend is trying to get me back into Magic. I opened a pack and got a Planeswalker, and I'm like the fuck is this? I ain't played MtG since 5th Edition and Tempest, we didn't have this back in my day. I need some help building a bomb ass deck that I can use to smite the Yugioh kidz at the local card shop.
Planeswalkers are fuckstupid Timmy bullshit, never play with one if you have any self-respect.
Planeswalkers are fuckstupid Timmy bullshit, never play with one if you have any self-respect.
:ufup
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:lawd
This was the one that I got.
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This was the one that I got.
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What is this thing? it looks like a cross between a creature and an enchantment
Planeswalkers are fuckstupid Timmy bullshit, never play with one if you have any self-respect.
So... Magic. Where's a good place to start?
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For those of you who are anti-social, MTGO (magic the gathering online) is a great place to start. You can also always, always find a draft within like 15 minutes. Further also, if you need any singles for constructed MTGO play, check out www.mtgotraders.com and pay my rent, why dontcha.
So... Magic. Where's a good place to start?
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Local friends got my slightly into MTG since they kill time with it between classes during the week, so I picked up a Mardu Khans intro pack. They hooked me up with some more cards to replace the garbage filler those tend to have, with some extras and some sleeves on the way.
What are some good Mardu cards from Fate Reforged? I haven't played MTG since Alara Reborn so I don't know jack about what's out there.
Mono Red Aggro
4x Monastery Swiftspear
4x Goblin Rabblemaster
3x Mardu Scout
3x Foundry Street Denizen
3x Satyr Firedrinker
2x Purphoros, God of the Forge
4x Stoke the Flames
4x Hordeling Outburst
3x Wild Slash
3x Searing Blood
2x Lightning Strike
2x Outpost Siege
2x Break Through the Line
21x Mountain
I built it for Friday night just to dick around with, but I ended up coming in 2nd, so I figured what the heck I'd give it another go. Made a few tweaks, and it didn't hurt that the guy that wrecked my shit in the finals on Friday night didn't make the cut to Top 8 today. :P
I ran some Great Revels out of the sideboard. That look on your opponents face when you drop a turn 2 Revel off the play before they even get a card out.
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I went to a Dragons of Tarkir prelease event but got destroyed. I pulled a Dromoka in my intro pack but got jack shit for my sealed packs. Ran three impact tremors, but didn't have enough dashers to make it worthwhile. :'( Wish I'd gotten something better than Zurgo Bellstriker for my promo too, though the Kolaghan dice is pretty sweet.
I went to a Dragons of Tarkir prelease event but got destroyed. I pulled a Dromoka in my intro pack but got jack shit for my sealed packs. Ran three impact tremors, but didn't have enough dashers to make it worthwhile. :'( Wish I'd gotten something better than Zurgo Bellstriker for my promo too, though the Kolaghan dice is pretty sweet.
Have you been to many prereleases? After my third or fourth I stopped trying to be productive and just had a dumb good time.
I am famously awful at limited, however.
I went to a Dragons of Tarkir prelease event but got destroyed. I pulled a Dromoka in my intro pack but got jack shit for my sealed packs. Ran three impact tremors, but didn't have enough dashers to make it worthwhile. :'( Wish I'd gotten something better than Zurgo Bellstriker for my promo too, though the Kolaghan dice is pretty sweet.
Have you been to many prereleases? After my third or fourth I stopped trying to be productive and just had a dumb good time.
I am famously awful at limited, however.
I never bought into the more skill thing. :yeshrug
Yeah drafting is like one of the biggest skill testers in Magic. They do it at the pro-tours and players championships for good reason!
Yeah drafting is like one of the biggest skill testers in Magic. They do it at the pro-tours and players championships for good reason!
Yeah drafting is like one of the biggest skill testers in Magic. They do it at the pro-tours and players championships for good reason!
It's really too bad it costs so much to do in Magic online. If I could pay $1 per draft or so, I'd totally do it.spoiler (click to show/hide)lol sounds like I'm going to a bar during Happy Hour for that.[close]
Yeah drafting is like one of the biggest skill testers in Magic. They do it at the pro-tours and players championships for good reason!
It's really too bad it costs so much to do in Magic online. If I could pay $1 per draft or so, I'd totally do it.spoiler (click to show/hide)lol sounds like I'm going to a bar during Happy Hour for that.[close]
Yeah drafting is like one of the biggest skill testers in Magic. They do it at the pro-tours and players championships for good reason!
It's really too bad it costs so much to do in Magic online. If I could pay $1 per draft or so, I'd totally do it.spoiler (click to show/hide)lol sounds like I'm going to a bar during Happy Hour for that.[close]
XMage - free online drafts all day
1x Silumgar, the Drifting Death
2x Qarsi Sadist
1x Pitiless Horde
1x Elusive Spellfist
1x Hand of Silumgar
1x Minister of Pain
1x Ojutai Interceptor
1x Rakshasa Gravecaller
1x Kolaghan Skirmisher
1x Blood-Chin Rager
1x Risen Executioner
1x Silumgar Butcher
1x Updraft Elemental
1x Taigam's Strike
1x Butcher's Glee
1x Duress
1x Sight Beyond Sight (Thunder...Thunder...Thunder...Thundercats HOOOO!)
1x Illusory Gains
1x Douse in Gloom
1x Negate
1x Spidersilk Net
1x Contradict
10x Swamp
7x Island
Yeah drafting is like one of the biggest skill testers in Magic. They do it at the pro-tours and players championships for good reason!
It's really too bad it costs so much to do in Magic online. If I could pay $1 per draft or so, I'd totally do it.spoiler (click to show/hide)lol sounds like I'm going to a bar during Happy Hour for that.[close]
XMage - free online drafts all day
http://gawker.com/i-won-a-5-000-magic-the-gathering-tournament-on-shroo-1705333524
:neogaf
Pro MTGers get anally devestated on Twitter because some dude rare-drafts a foil Tarmogoyf (a card currently valued at ~$330 on TCGPlayer) in the Top 8 at GP Vegas, passing on a card that would have given him a better chance to win the tournament (with a 1st Place payout of $4000).
Dude puts the card on Ebay, offers to give 50% to charity, it's now up to $12,000. :neogaf
http://www.ebay.com/itm/MTG-Foil-Tarmogoyf-MM2-Stamped-GP-Vegas-Top-8-Pascal-Maynard-/261911963536
16k and counting wtf :neogaf
This is a real card. MaRo, pls.
(http://i.imgur.com/LF3C5y7.jpg?1) (http://i.imgur.com/ygQatyj.jpg?1)
#rememberwhen Wizzos released an "enchantment" set that just had a bunch of creatures that were enchantments? :stahp
(http://i.imgur.com/91B8hUh.png)
:dead
The changes are basically "let's make it cost more to enter events and give out shittier prizes for winning" because good players were winning enough packs to play for free.
Planeswalkers are fuckstupid Timmy bullshit, never play with one if you have any self-respect.
They took the cleanest method for dealing with planeswalkers and replaced it with a gimped version that has a limited mechanic stapled onto it.
(http://i.imgur.com/HDy0CuG.jpg) becomes (http://i.imgur.com/ShC9Eio.jpg)
They took the cleanest method for dealing with planeswalkers and replaced it with a gimped version that has a limited mechanic stapled onto it.
(http://i.imgur.com/HDy0CuG.jpg) becomes (http://i.imgur.com/ShC9Eio.jpg)
Why the hell would anyone pay the Awaken 4 for that cost? Wizard's is dumb. Their power creep has pretty much made the game "GOTTA GO FAST" instead of some thought processing involved at times.
I'm not anti-PW, but I think it's pretty gross seeing PWs be an automatic 4-of in any deck with access to the colors. The only 4-ofs you need are Dark Ritual and Necropotence. :bolo
...why is that card white. It being green as a color pie conceit to justify trample is bad enough.
Won my first FNM standard constructed on Friday :lawd
Bant Hardened Scales is so sickin. Was running Abzan Scales with Drana but I had an ass manabase with all the tap/pain lands. This bant version is the real deal.
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/23-11-15-bant-scales/
Playing curated eternal formats and being able to mostly ignore the present. :bow2
Playing curated eternal formats and being able to mostly ignore the present. :bow2
:usacry :nintendo :umad
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"flying, trample, protection from blue"
uh alright then
Haha a new release is like, every 3 months. So yeah always a good time to play MTG! Just get some drafting in or something.Nerd/Geek humor is always low-hanging fruit because it deals with inclusion/exclusion. We are always happy when we recognize an inside joke AND get it. There's also some portion of us which has embraced how much we've been othered and rejoices in the finding of another member of the tribe.
Anyhooo I'm gonna shill my new tumblr here: http://thoptersocialnetwork.tumblr.com/
Basically I saw some Game of Thrones "humor" which had a zillion likes which was "What if Game of Thrones characters had facebook?". It was so excruciatingly unfunny (ie. Jofffrey added life event: DEAD - That was the "joke") I thought I'd go ahead and do some Magic jokes. Turns out nerd humour is real low hanging fruit!
"flying, trample, protection from blue"
uh alright then
"flying, trample, protection from blue"
uh alright then
Blue? you can still counter it... protection from the scant few instant removal spells that would deal to it in standard? most shit is sorcery speed now, don't see this ever seeing play outside EDH/standard.
>Saying a stupid Timmy creature won't be played.
"flying, trample, protection from blue"
uh alright then
Blue? you can still counter it... protection from the scant few instant removal spells that would deal to it in standard? most shit is sorcery speed now, don't see this ever seeing play outside EDH/standard.
Pretty all much... although most popular hard removal in modern is instant speed, so ol tentacool here could see some Modern action imo. Probably as a sideboard card in a Tron deck?
Uh, the past year of standard wants a word with you...
Power Creep has made former cards worthless in Legacy for anyone that wants to play older sets because you pretty much have newer cards that'll stomp them dry and/or make them utterly worthless because they can't keep base rules for cards and have to "creep" everything up to make the game interesting.
Weren't you trying to own me on the previous page because fuckstupid Eldrazi from a current block were shitting up Type 1.5? (When that format sucks I just go play Pauper, fyi.) Do you get paid to eat MaRo's ass, or is it just a top 8 sex event for you?
Type 1 players
Weren't you trying to own me on the previous page because fuckstupid Eldrazi from a current block were shitting up Type 1.5? (When that format sucks I just go play Pauper, fyi.) Do you get paid to eat MaRo's ass, or is it just a top 8 sex event for you?
My group of friends were looking for a board game to play whenever we have gatherings, and one of them mentioned this "magic card game" one guy at his workplace was talking about. After managing to avoid this stuff due to the stigma during my entire life, I'm about to pop my magic cherry in about a hour from now with a friend. We each picked up a starter pack and I watched a bunch of videos explaining how to play.
Power Creep has made former cards worthless in Legacy for anyone that wants to play older sets because you pretty much have newer cards that'll stomp them dry and/or make them utterly worthless because they can't keep base rules for cards and have to "creep" everything up to make the game interesting.
:what :confused
Power Creep has made former cards worthless in Legacy for anyone that wants to play older sets because you pretty much have newer cards that'll stomp them dry and/or make them utterly worthless because they can't keep base rules for cards and have to "creep" everything up to make the game interesting.
:what :confused
Outside of broken cards like Jace the Mindslayer and the like, try to play some older (read: Alpha-5th edition) cards against some more modern cards. You won't be able "stand with" those later sets due to creep. Especially if the cards you've chose (as unlikely as it may be) haven't been reprinted/errata'd to power-creep as well. Which is my point: Unless you're playing a bunch of the obviously "must-pick" cards from some sets, the power-creep screwed up Legacy for kitchen Magic.
But, to be fair: It's a problem that hits most any card-game the longer it runs. Older sets become "crap" because newer ones have to fix a problem that an earlier set made and it continues in perpetuity.
but mah craw wurm tho
Do any of you engage in bluffing your opponents like it's Poker? Holding mid- to late-game Land cards in reserve so they think you've got a counterspell, etc.?
(http://gatherer.wizards.com/Handlers/Image.ashx?multiverseid=962&type=card)
^ there were still some legit aggro creatures back in the day. i run these dudes in modern, and the ape still smashes face. <3 my arabian nights kird apes
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That OG Kird Ape art is the best, it looks like they just traced over a photo of a gorilla. :lawd
Joe, if you want to get them to abandon EDH, just build a red deck with all of the "random shit happens to random players, lolz" cards.
Couldn't help but notice that Wizzos both (1) dropped some Type 2 bans and (2) banned an uncommon in Type 2.
SO much better at making a balanced game these days. :ahnuld2
Now if you'll excuse me, talking about uncommon bans has suddenly given me the urge to play some Pauper Affinity. :esports
we talking red aggro jank Joe? almost won a modern gpt the other week with burn, lost to abzan midrange in the semis, Finks, Rhino and Collective Brutality main are pretty difficult to play around... haven't played any new standard competitively, keep going away when the tournaments are being held.
Opponent chooses to play first.
Opponent mulligans to 6 cards.
Karakand mulligans to 6 cards.
Opponent keeps this hand.
Karakand mulligans to 5 cards.
Karakand mulligans to 4 cards.
Karakand keeps this hand. (Silhana Ledgewalker, Natural State, Ethereal Armor, Gladecover Scout.)
Opponent put a card on the bottom of the library.
Karakand put a card on top of Karakand's library. (Crumbling Vestige.)
Opponent skips their draw step.
Opponent plays Island.
Turn 1: Karakand.
Karakand plays Crumbling Vestige.
Karaknd puts triggered ability from Crumbling Vestige onto the stack. (When Crumbling Vestige enters the battlefield, add 1 mana of any color to your mana pool.)
Opponent casts Though Scour targeting Karakand. (Two Forests are put into the graveyard.)
Kara, why r u playing crumbling vestige over aether hub?
Ice Age Snow-Covered Mountains :lawd:preach
Wizzos cancelled their phantom Mirage-Tempest Type 2 tournament (http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/magic-online/flashback-standard-gauntlets-mirage-tempest) because MODO is a hunk of junk that prints money in spite of itself. :snoop
There were some truly awful decks in there, but having to play Prosperous Bloom under rules where death was a state-based effect was amusing enough for me to be interested. Plus white weenies with shadow were an option.
Hatred was a rad card, and they don't make 'em like Unholy Strength or Bad Moon anymore. And of course there's shadow. (On a tangent, when I watch the latest version of Death's Shadow in Modern I get a serious Suicide Black vibe, though of course it's described as Jund midrange instead.)
Well, they didn't see an issue in the current block with having a race identify outside the gender binary (which, hey, props for) but making sure that race was black-aligned, participated in unsavory trade (or outright criminality) and handled the tough moral space of being sentient but short-lived by living trite lives of excess (no black mana cliche) so...
Fatal Push is better than Path to Exile in like, 9/10 feasible cases in modern. It's basically second only to bolt in terms of removal now.
The Damnation memes are very funny, but I've gotten tired of them.
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spoiler (click to show/hide)Pauper rant: Downshifting Burning-Tree Emissary to common was a bad idea.[close]
You weren't passed the Ballista and the Battle at the Bridge I hope. :lol
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:jeanluc Teach your damn kids how to use countermagic, Wizzos.
But did you Shock a (cat) monkey (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CnVf1ZoCJSo)? (>ლ)
Weren't Path to Exile and Bloodbraid Elf pricy uncommons once upon a time, too?
Magic is a flat circle. Every 7-8 years they hit a rough patch, fuck up some shit, bleed off customers and then scramble to fix shit. When they manage to do something right, people come back and bring newbies with them.
:lol The Snapcaster alternate is the splash screen on MODO atm.spoiler (click to show/hide)(http://i.imgur.com/BOrJ95W.jpg)[close]
http://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/if_the_light_music_club_played_magic_the_gathering_ch01#1
It would only be a band-aid in this shitty Standard season anyway, it's not like there are a bunch of good decks out there on the fringes that are being pushed out. Wizards listed Temur Dynavolt (:lol) as one of their reasons for not banning anything, because they thought it was making a push toward being Tier 1 (pro tip: it's not) but that deck just eats shit to artifact removal.
It will 100 percent be started with Origins though. Also, I hate anybody who bitches about fetchlands. If you had shuffling that much, maybe don't play a card game. Turbonerds.
Karakand casts Glint Hawk.
Opponent casts Counterspell targeting Glint Hawk.
[Counterspell resolves.]
Karakand casts Firebolt from graveyard targeting Opponent.
Karakand casts Galvanic Blast targeting Opponent.
Karakand casts Galvanic Blast targeting Opponent.
Opponent has left the game.
anyone citing InQuest for anything is automatically wrong
Maro's main mistake is this: He claims that he won't comment on the T1 metagame, but then he does make a very strong assumption about said metagame by repeating the old (and long-debunked) canard that T1 is the most expensive format because you have to have Moxes, Ancestral Recall, and Black Lotus to win. Any decent Suicide, Sligh, Stompy, or Parfait player (and that's just a few decks off the top of my head), could set him straight that you, in fact, do not.
In fact, competitive Type 2 becomes far more expensive after a single set rotation (nevermind two, three, or more) than Type 1 will ever be, even if your were to build and play fully-Powered Keeper.
But even if I lost every game, it was all worth it for the play I was able to make Match 1, Game 1. I'm on the play. I mulligan to 6, look at my top card. Keep on top. Play a mountain, go. Next turn, windmill slam a Thunderous Wrath MIRACLES EVERY DAY, PURE MOTHERFUCKING MAGIC! :bow2
Oh, and those brick-looking counters on the punch card? They're actual brick counters. They help you build things . . .
There's flashback for creatures because, you know, it's not fair for spells to have something that creatures can't. Did I mention that it's an activated ability so it's more difficult to use counter magic on too? Because little Timmy gets sad when you counter his wurm. :( :( :( :( :( :( :(
Turn 2: Karakand.
Karakand plays Ancient Den.
Karakand casts Ichor Wellspring.
Opponent casts Daze targeting Ichor Wellspring.
Turn 3: Opponent.
Opponent plays Swamp.
Opponent casts Exhume targeting Ulamog's Crusher.
Turn 3: Karakand.
Karakand plays Journey to Nowhere targeting Ulamog's Crusher.
I'm gonna be real- as gross as the new masterpieces are (both in selection of what to print and presentation) the concept of flashback creatures is far more disgusting. So glad I don't play this game anymore.
stoketheflavor asked: Before Kaladesh released, you said (I believe) that it was your best set since original Innistrad. How do you feel about Kaladesh now?
I’m still very proud of it, but it wasn’t received quite as well as I hoped.
I have come to the conclusion that MaRo wields too much power. There's a pronounced and unfortunate imbalance between design and development in design's favor, and it makes the game shittier as a result. It should be development's job to catch shit like the Saheeli Rai-Felidar Guardian combo, but more importantly to be in a position to tell design "no" when it tries to have all the candy in the world with shiny new keywords and interactions. (specifically thinking of Stoneforge Mystic in a world of powerful equipment, but especially Batterskull.)
I'm gonna be real- as gross as the new masterpieces are (both in selection of what to print and presentation) the concept of flashback creatures is far more disgusting. So glad I don't play this game anymore.
With Wizards, there's the possibility that they're so worried about this breaking the game that they make them all completely unplayable (Madness in SoI) and then miss some other broken interaction.
I'm gonna be real- as gross as the new masterpieces are (both in selection of what to print and presentation) the concept of flashback creatures is far more disgusting. So glad I don't play this game anymore.
With Wizards, there's the possibility that they're so worried about this breaking the game that they make them all completely unplayable (Madness in SoI) and then miss some other broken interaction.
This is a common. Going out on a limb here and saying Embalm is pushed as heck.
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Fuck off and retire, Mark.
It's strange coz Bolas likes control strategies, but embalm, if properly constructed playable en masse, will make swift work of any kind of traditional control. Guess you can use disallow to counter half a card lol.
Renewed Faith is being reprinted... dare we dream about an Astral Slide one too? That would sure deal with all these flashback creature tokens.
Also from its flavor text Gideon is going to go native lol.
(http://mythicspoiler.com/akh/cards/prowlingserpopard.jpg)
seems like this set will have a focus on hate cards. i like it.
Aven mindcensor and fetchable lands? So we're going to be getting a bunch of land cycling cards.
Cartouche is a good word, probably Top 10 if I'm being honest.
The problem with that BUG is that it was supposed to have a good shot against Miracles but Miracles just adapted (like it always does). Solid runner-up deck, and one that can navigate a field of unknowns (e.g. a Grand Prix).
We ruled out blue Zombies because we felt Innistrad had set the flavor that blue Zombies were created through science/magic, and mummies didn't feel at all like Frankenstein-style creatures. Red Zombies didn't feel right as mummies don't really have a red mindset. Green Zombies seemed odd, as mummification seemed a very unnatural process. That brought us to white. Mummification had a ritualistic and orderly aspect to it. Was there a way to make white Zombies work?
So, we went to the creative team and asked what they thought of white and black Zombies. It turns out they had created a society within the city where Zombies served as servants and outside the city where they became abominations. White and black were perfect fits. To differentiate between the two, we made the black Zombies destructive and the white Zombies constructive. The black Zombies were vicious in combat and had effects that often would injure or kill other creatures. In exploratory design, we had played around with wither, so I added it to a bunch of the black mummies. (The set had -1/-1 counters. I'll be getting to this in future weeks. I'll also be getting to how wither got added and then removed.) The white Zombies, in contrast, were made to be mechanically helpful to portray their servant status.
Hmmm, imo Sneak and Show is a better copper. Anyway, welcome to pet deck hell. :)
sneak and show is the villain! the ultimate big bad with a big ol' target on its forehead that everyone packs hate for. not the police! I do quite like omnitell though. too much karakas in our meta for regular ol' sneaky emrakul beats.
They printed a 1/1 with lifelink for W that flashes back for W at common. Good grief.
colorshifted Unstable Mutation :phil
Betcha Gideon dies this block. Sam and MaRo both have complained about lack of design space. Two back to back pushed cards ahead of a plane that allows him to come back if they need? I think they're going to off him.
Tormod's Crypt is back, but in creature form! (and not as good)
The tears of butthurt nerdlingers when they lost complaining that the deck was so simple a moron could run it despite it having more decisions/math than literally any other deck in the era
:success
I just want Supreme Verdict to be a viable card in modern. Somehow, someway.
@Joe I'm game if you are. Deviant behavior is always better with another. :cody
I only play Magic in the meatspace, but in spirit we can be together. :heart
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Translator's Note: Kamigawa means "Godgawa".
On Yahoo Auctions Japan, the mother listed them as “Various Old Cards,” stating that since they were old, some had scratches, folds, or were even stinky. “But, objectively, I think they are beautiful,” she stated.
From one of the writers of "Magic Story":
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kara help
Don't believe the anti-hype. It's all the usual speculators talking about how it's not that great. It'll be expensive as fuck before long.
Who are we talking about?
Speaking of Kamigawa, I want to play Commander just to run this sweet Samurai deck.
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/samurai-saskia/
on another note, i just swapped path with chained to the rocks in my burn sb. it's a tempo hit not being able to end step the path in response to a fattie, but often i'm finding giving them that extra land to cast coco, fix their greed and cast fatties too relevant, too often. i think sorcery speed removal might be an alright trade off. on top of that it gets rid of the nonbo with molten rain which is now there due to the rise of ponza, eldrazi tron and u tron. getting 2 for 1s on their land + utopia sprawl :rejoice
Almost got all my cards for Storm in. Hopefully I'll be able to FNM it this week. Just waiting for Grapeshot, Manamorphose, and a Merchant Scroll.
(Homelands of course, so I can get people like "Wait, is this a Modern legal card?" "Oh, I'm sorry, you didn't know Homelands was in Modern, you poor pleb? Let me summon my Autumn Willow. :snob )
"Hello, Jace," [Liliana] said. "Brunch?"
"It's past midday," he said.
"It's a late brunch."
He gritted his teeth.
"That's . . . just . . . lunch."
"You're planning to follow me," she said.
"Obviously."
"And if I tell you not to follow me," she said, "you'll turn invisible and follow me anyway."
Jace shrugged. "It crossed my mind."
"So the only difference is whether I have to look at you along the way?"
"Uh . . . I guess?"
"Fine," said Liliana. "Come on then."
She walked away, following the shade.
Jace sighed and followed after her, muttering, "So does that mean you want to look at me, or . . . ?"
She sighed.
"Promise you won't be mad?"
"No."
"Promise you won't tell Gideon?"
"Uh, extra no."
"Then you figure it out, cloak boy."
He walked next to her, thinking.
"You're trying to find Nicol Bolas," he said.
"I'd just as soon not."
"You're going to betray us to Nicol Bolas."
"Tempting, but no."
Turn 6: Karakand
Karakand casts Goblin Electromancer.
Karakand casts Desperate Ritual.
Karakand casts Desperate Ritual.
Karakand casts Pyretic Ritual.
Karakand casts Desperate Ritual.
Karakand casts Manamorphose.
Karakand draws a card with Manamorphose.
Karakand casts Grapeshot targeting Mandark.
Karakand puts triggered ability from Grapeshot onto the stack (6 spells cast before Grapeshot this turn.) Storm
Karakand casts Gifts Ungiven targeting Mandark.
Mandark casts Counterflux targeting Gifts Ungiven.
Karakand casts Empty the Warrens.
Karakand puts triggered ability from Empty the Warrens onto the stack (9 spells cast before Empty the Warrens this turn.) Storm
Mandark has conceded from the game.
Why are we making this call now and why didn't we make it in our regular B&R announcement on Monday? The answer is data. We knew going into Monday that the Saheeli-Felidar combo was a significant issue for Standard and were watching it closely. Our rationale for waiting was to make sure we only needed to take one and only one action to correct the Standard environment. Our plan was to monitor early play behavior and pro competition and make a call following Pro Tour Amonkhet.
Since the initial announcement, for the first time ever, we pre-released a new card set on Magic Online before the formal release date. This happened on Monday. What we expected to take a few weeks to understand has ended up taking two days to form a clear picture of a metagame unbalanced by the Copy Cat combo, as even its natural predator, Mardu Vehicles, fell behind. Couple this with consensus among a wide sampling of pros and feedback (and pizza) from our community and we decided to take action.
Saheeli-Felidar's win-loss ratio and metagame share has actually increased since the release of Amonkhet. In Magic Online Standard Leagues since Monday, Saheeli combo has made up approximately 40% of 5-0 and 4-1 decklists—up from prior to Amonkhet's release. While we never take decisions like this lightly and recognize this is a change from the norm, when a plurality of the data points in a clear direction, we will take action.
Spergs that play modo 18 hours a day
:preach
On a serious note, I hope that the banning methodology used in January is never used again in Type 2.
If the format is bad enough that you have to ban, just ban the fucking stupid cards like Marvel instead of trying to keep archetypes alive with neutering bans (guess what the #3 deck was on MODO? Copy Cat Marvel), and don't preemptively ban cards like Reflector--you never know what stupid combo your development team missed in the new set. Type 2 isn't Modern and that's OK.
On a design note, much has been made about the removal crisis but I think the more important lesson is that it would be wise to lay off flickering for a long time. With the way creatures are made now the mechanic generates too much value and it creates too many possibilty storms to navigate for balancing purposes. And let's be honest, flickering that doesn't last until the beginning of the end step has minimal contribution to the game as an intellectual entertainment medium.
And for the love of Urza, figure out a way to punish greedy mana bases that you can live with. The game is choking on this issue in multiple formats.
WotC has a long history of banning the enablers instead of the true offending cards, tho, soooooo...
702.28
When we decided that the extra words in "whenever you cycle or discard" helped to point newer players to the cycling deck, we realized that some might think that these extra words got you two triggers for cycling a card and one for discarding a card in other ways. That would be crazy good. I added this rule to assure you that it's not quite that good.
So, I went to my LGS for FNM last week. I was all set to play a little Storm, bring the drizzle on some unwitting victims. I set down for my first match and my opponent plays a Canopy Vista. Okay, kinda weird, must be a budget brew. I play a Steam Vent and cast Serum Visions. My opponent is like "uhhhhh.....I'm playing Standard". I check the pairings, and yep, I accidentally got registered in the Standard event.
When embalm became a mechanic, we changed [Embalmer's Tools] to embalm any creature card in your graveyard. I believe that version got killed in development, as embalming any creature was much more abusable than just allowing you to embalm creatures we designed for you to embalm.
Magic, as it turns out, has a lot of math in it. Richard Garfield was a math professor, after all. Interestingly, one of my jobs as a Magic designer has been trying to reduce the impact of math on the players. I'm not talking about reducing the math that can be opted into (if you want to run spreadsheets to optimize your land mix, have a great time), but rather the math required to simply play the game.
New set is pretty sweet. Not sure I love the draft format. Drafting aggressive decks seems the way to go though.
4 Aether Hub
4 Botanical Sanctum
2 Cinder Glade
1 Evolving Wilds
4 Forest
2 Island
2 Lumbering Falls
1 Mountain
2 Spirebluff Canal
4 Aetherworks Marvel
4 Attune with Aether
1 Baral's Expertise
1 Bounty of the Luxa
3 Chandra, Torch of Defiance
1 Nissa, Vital Force
4 Harnessed Lightning
1 Sweltering Suns
4 Rogue Refiner
4 Servant of the Conduit
4 Ulamog, the Ceaseless Hunger
3 Whirler Virtuoso
4 Woodweaver's Puzzleknot
Sideboard:
1 Bounty of the Luxa
1 Chandra, Torch of Defiance
2 Dispel
2 Glimmer of Genius
2 Magma Spray
1 Manglehorn
2 Negate
1 Prowling Serpopard
3 Tireless Tracker
4 Aether Hub
4 Blooming Marsh
4 Botanical Sanctum
2 Evolving Wilds
3 Forest
1 Island
2 Swamp
4 Aetherworks Marvel
4 Attune with Aether
1 Bounty of the Luxa
1 Demon of Dark Schemes
4 Fatal Push
2 Ishkanah, Grafwidow
3 Liliana, Death's Majesty
4 Rogue Refiner
4 Servant of the Conduit
1 Tireless Tracker
1 Traverse the Ulvenwald
3 Ulamog, the Ceaseless Hunger
4 Vessel of Nascency
4 Woodweaver's Puzzleknot
Sideboard:
1 Bounty of the Luxa
1 Bristling Hydra
2 Dispel
2 Dispossess
2 Negate
2 Shielded Aether Thief
2 Tireless Tracker
2 Transgress the Mind
1 World Breaker
Combo winter, brehs
http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/magic-online/throwback-standard-gauntlet-2-combo-winter-urza-block-2017-05-04
:lawd
Combo winter, brehs
http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/magic-online/throwback-standard-gauntlet-2-combo-winter-urza-block-2017-05-04
:lawd
This starts today.
Not sure how I feel about it, TBH. Obviously I'm going to play and I'm looking forward to (possibly) being assigned a deck with multiple copies of Yawgmoth's Win, but the fact that we're mixing Tempest-Urza's decks with Urza's-Masques doesn't sit well with me. It's not possible to replicate a season that was sundered by bannings, but this amalgamation doesn't resemble any point of either season and that sort of defeats the whole purpose of the product; there's already too much mythology about this era.
Related: Thinking about what was good in Mirage-Tempest and Tempest-Urza's (i.e. the same Tempest cards), I think they should have started the gauntlet on 2 ends of a timeline and worked towards a midpoint instead of proceeding in a linear fashion.spoiler (click to show/hide)I better not get freaking Tinker. I never want to play that deck again.[close]
Burn is a confirmed 9+ on the Storm Scale. Ban Lightning Strike next, just to be sure.
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#RESIST
I pulled a Kara and drafted removal tribal in my first RIX draft. :lawd
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Except I went 3-0. :P
https://www.mtggoldfish.com/archetype/legacy-u-45071
Teferi's Realm, Defense Grid, Meditate?
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Are there Eternal Command decks that don't use Aether Vials? (I'm not super familiar with the archetype, though I do want to try this deck (https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/937737#paper).)
Tbh tho I don't think Jace will warp the Modern metagame. Sure, slow it down as people durdle with making brainstorm decisions, it's not gonna break it. Unbanning Rite of Flame and/or Seething Song or all of the artifact lands would lead to a new dominant deck in the format but JTMS? Nah.
I'm talking decks, not UI. Matchmaking puts you against obvious T1 decks while you own basically no cards. :doge
Still no key. Fuck this noise. Imma go play Shandalar :lawd
Still no key. Fuck this noise. Imma go play Shandalar :lawd
1) Did you sign-up early?
2) Did you play Magic Arena and log-in to Wizards.com to tie it?
3) Did you/do you have a DCI number to put in?
Any of these would get you in early.
Also if you complained like... 3-4 weeks ago when I got a spare key since I signed up with 2 e-mails, I'd have given you the spare.
Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #32385 on: 09 April 2018, 22:33:19 »
But I gave it out on 4chan
Still no key. Fuck this noise. Imma go play Shandalar :lawd
1) Did you sign-up early?
2) Did you play Magic Arena and log-in to Wizards.com to tie it?
3) Did you/do you have a DCI number to put in?
Any of these would get you in early.
1) Like, 3 month ago or something.
2) How would I play without a key...? Unless you mean Duels? If so, no.
3) lol no.QuoteAlso if you complained like... 3-4 weeks ago when I got a spare key since I signed up with 2 e-mails, I'd have given you the spare.
http://www.thebore.com/forum/index.php?topic=30371.msg2411686#msg2411686QuoteRe: What are you playing?
« Reply #32385 on: 09 April 2018, 22:33:19 »
:boloQuoteBut I gave it out on 4chan
Modsplsban
Sheeeit, i've got lyk, 20 tokens with access keys on 'em at home. Will post after work.
Not sure if these tokens were only available at the pre-release, or if you can purchase any DOM pack and get one.... Haven't bought any DOM boosters. Fuck standard.
forgot i said id post those codes
in case y'all still lookinspoiler (click to show/hide)8ju-95a8-fsj
n6c-efs9-78a
p94-mo3q-1ug
5uo-h6oo-t95
juy-1pg3-s9z
s5k-j9rk-438
are-8hd9-tcj
yrb-fmtk-74m
qq5-srad-6qs
xf8-anrr-8e3
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6pr-1b35-kz5[close]
p sure they're all active :P
forgot i said id post those codes
in case y'all still lookinspoiler (click to show/hide)8ju-95a8-fsj
n6c-efs9-78a
p94-mo3q-1ug
5uo-h6oo-t95
juy-1pg3-s9z
s5k-j9rk-438
are-8hd9-tcj
yrb-fmtk-74m
qq5-srad-6qs
xf8-anrr-8e3
caj-zwt3-8cu
6pr-1b35-kz5[close]
p sure they're all active :P
I'm guessing you live in New Zealand where they're doing that "plz play Arena :(" thing in boosters?
All gone now, sadly
I like b/w vamps and if I keep fucking around with the game enough that's probably what I'll sink resources into next.
(https://i.imgur.com/UVHvXjD.png)(https://i.imgur.com/TZVpayR.png)(https://i.imgur.com/eDwAYHD.png)
I ironically love that we have an :esports expansion now.spoiler (click to show/hide)Why are all the cards referencing actual sports blue? :lol[close]
Battlebond looks like really good fun.
(http://mythicspoiler.com/bbd/cards/arenarector1.jpg)
(http://mythicspoiler.com/bbd/cards/thrillingencore.jpg)
(http://mythicspoiler.com/bbd/cards/mindseye.jpg)
(http://mythicspoiler.com/bbd/cards/truenamenemesis.jpg)
Nice crop of new cards with solid reprints.
Battlebond looks like really good fun.
(http://mythicspoiler.com/bbd/cards/arenarector1.jpg)
(http://mythicspoiler.com/bbd/cards/thrillingencore.jpg)
(http://mythicspoiler.com/bbd/cards/mindseye.jpg)
(http://mythicspoiler.com/bbd/cards/truenamenemesis.jpg)
Nice crop of new cards with solid reprints.
Not posting the new Morphling. :ufup
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Anyway, in general it looks like a fun set and I'm going to try to go to a pre-release event, but the keyword mechanics are very uninteresting and there's just too much EDH shite coming off Dominaria which was full of EDH shite.
Finally got around to opening my Dominara packs for new accounts:
Pack 1: [[Shield of the Realm]], [[Siege-Gang Commander]], [[Cast Down]], [[Llanowar Scout]], [[Gaea's Protector]], Common Wildcard, [[Stronghold Confessor]], [[Short Sword]].
Pack 2: Uncommon Wildcard, [[Karn's Temporal Sundering]], [[Knight of Grace]], [[Caligo Skin-Witch]], [[Homarid Explorer]], [[Blessed Light]], [[Fiery Intervention]], [[Feral Abomination]]
Pack 3: [[Slimefoot, the Stowaway]], [[Yawgmoth's Vile Offering]], [[Wizard's Retort]], [[Keldon Raider]], [[Opt]], [[Ancient Animus]], [[Befuddle]], [[Drudge Sentinel]].I can't fap to thisI can't build a deck with this.jpg
I guess I can use the Wildcards that I've collected so far for more Dominara stuff, but with the next block on the horizon... :/
I only play extreme competitive EDH
I pretty much only play EDH now :P I have a few modern decks, and used to play standard. But i realised i would rather just draft occasionally and play 100 card singleton. I was always so derisive, but played a lot because i had some old friends who have played since the 90s and i just borrowed their decks. Now i've built a few (Sygg Merfolk, 8 1/2 tails, Saskia and Animar), i see how fun the format is.
I pretty much only play EDH now :P I have a few modern decks, and used to play standard. But i realised i would rather just draft occasionally and play 100 card singleton. I was always so derisive, but played a lot because i had some old friends who have played since the 90s and i just borrowed their decks. Now i've built a few (Sygg Merfolk, 8 1/2 tails, Saskia and Animar), i see how fun the format is.
I know that it's fun*; it is still (nominally) Magic, a game that is fun. I'm just over every product having to cater to the format, especially since it often shits up limited (and will only do it more so now that Masters sets are no longer format specific) with paint by numbers commanders.
*Fun of course as defined by the unwritten rules of your group of friends who oftentimes implement them ex post facto.
Pissing off people playing EDH side events at a GP by winning turn 1 is what I live for
Thee's no reason not to play mono-blue Azami wizards Palinchron combo if you're going to play EDH. For one, if you can play mono-blue, you do. For another, killing all your opponents by decking them is intensely satisfying. Finally, "flash in Teferi at your eot, take a 10 minute turn where you all just have to sit and watch me durdle, win" is the rudest possible thing you can do, so you might as well do it.
The whole "state of the MTG Arena economy" thing is so hilarious. It's obvious that switching from Wild Cards to dusting would solve all of their problems but they're so committed to this dumb Wild Card strategy they'll never do it.
The whole "state of the MTG Arena economy" thing is so hilarious. It's obvious that switching from Wild Cards to dusting would solve all of their problems but they're so committed to this dumb Wild Card strategy they'll never do it.
Honestly, the Wildcard system isn't bad but the rate you get them is so fucking dismal and that you get over 4-ofs that don't automatically turn into Wild Cards, is BANANAS.
SCG is doing Regional Championships this weekend too because :idont
The whole "state of the MTG Arena economy" thing is so hilarious. It's obvious that switching from Wild Cards to dusting would solve all of their problems but they're so committed to this dumb Wild Card strategy they'll never do it.
Honestly, the Wildcard system isn't bad but the rate you get them is so fucking dismal and that you get over 4-ofs that don't automatically turn into Wild Cards, is BANANAS.
It's not bad but it FEELS BAD and any solution to the over 4 of problem that makes any sort of sense and keeps wild cards is rife for fuckery- if you're giving out WCs for cards someone already has 4 of, if I'm the end user there's no reason for me to spend gold on packs of anything other than a set I've got mostly completed, as that will end up in more wild cards. Say you give out "wild card shards" for over 4 ofs, that you can piece together to form an actual wild card... at that point you've basically created dusting but you're just so committed to NOT CALLING IT DUSTING that it's absurd.
The real reason they won't do it IMO is that most of the cards are fucking useless and they don't want to highlight that. Everyone would immediately dust all of their trash if they could. It's what I did in Eternal.
Pro tour is mostly trash anyway. Standard :lol BDM, Rich, Maria, Riley and that other guy :-X :yuck SCG coverage is far superior.
Cheon was great today. It would be a lot nicer if the other presenters could hold an interesting conversation about meta analysis, not just try to compensate with bad jokes and laughs.
Pro tour is mostly trash anyway. Standard :lol BDM, Rich, Maria, Riley and that other guy :-X :yuck SCG coverage is far superior.
Cheon was great today. It would be a lot nicer if the other presenters could hold an interesting conversation about meta analysis, not just try to compensate with bad jokes and laughs.
Da youf love Riley but I find him to be an unbearable meme kid. When he commentates with Marshall the Struggle // Survive has never been more real.
Cedric and P-Sullivan are the best duo but they're in a unique situation of working together forever and P-Sullivan is prone to grouchy grouch rants that don't add very much to the experience. The rest of the SCG Tour crew is just dire though.
Paul and everyone on Play Design (except Melissa) are great at play-by-play. Having them in the Team Super Leagues has improved the experience so much.
So is this game any good? I keep seeing the thread get bumped, and some cool people post in it. Not trying to spend a bunch of money on anything though. Any way to try it out casually for free or almost free?
It's pretty okay but mtgo still better (and I don't even have mtgo)
So Standard is like you would play with your permanent collection, hence new people would get wrecked by people who actually have a collection with some good cards?
I saw mention of a draft format - that sounds newbie friendly, to the extent that a deep game can be.
So Standard is like you would play with your permanent collection, hence new people would get wrecked by people who actually have a collection with some good cards?
I saw mention of a draft format - that sounds newbie friendly, to the extent that a deep game can be.
Yep. Draft is fairly newbie friendly, but you still need a basic understanding of the game and why some cards are better than others, and general draft strategy.
The most newbie friendly format is sealed, where each player gets a random cardpool to make a deck from, which basically guarantees everyone is playing a pretty bad deck, and you can easily win games off luck alone.
Your LGS will usually have learn 2 magic events occasionally too where they supply casual decks.
We're going to be giving every player one of every rare and mythic rare in Kaladesh block, two of every common and uncommon, and four of each of the following cards:
With the update you'll be able to order simultaneous triggers
Pour one out for my Ramunap Ruins
:tocry
AER-AER-KLD drafts are tough. Most cards feel like junk.
I met my first WotC staffer and luckily I drew a near perfect hand. A turn three Maulfist Revolutionary boosted by a turn five Verdurous Gearhulk. During my other turns I could clear a path with cheap removal spells.
Why is there no emote for "fuck mana auto-tap"
Why is there no emote for "fuck mana auto-tap"
Grand Prix Las Vegas, a.k.a. WHEN BORE CON 2018 SHOULD HAVE BEEN. :maf
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Catching up on Core Set 2019 spoilers:
1. Reprint Man-o'-War but as a wizard brehs. >:(
2. The Lili-chan planeswalker card is illustrated by someone who did Lili-chan fan art. What a world.
3. Blood Divination rules. Dark Bargain might be my favorite card in Dominaria after Seal Away so I'm glad it looks like Black is going to be a little less boring going forward.
How would that work with a sorcery card requiring X mana like fireball?Wouldn't X be 0?
How would that work with a sorcery card requiring X mana like fireball?
How would that work with a sorcery card requiring X mana like fireball?Wouldn't X be 0?
Fucking hell, anything outside of Singleton and Draft on MTGA is unbearable. It's the same fucking 3 decks everywhere.
(https://i.imgur.com/QixCMHa.png?1)
You don't need lands, just build lol.spoiler (click to show/hide)Doing Aether Revolt poverty drafts, to try to get more gems for Core 2019. :'(spoiler (click to show/hide)Two Fatal Pushes tho. Too bad this wasn't a paper draft. :lol[close][close]
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You don't need lands, just build lol.spoiler (click to show/hide)Doing Aether Revolt poverty drafts, to try to get more gems for Core 2019. :'(spoiler (click to show/hide)Two Fatal Pushes tho. Too bad this wasn't a paper draft. :lol[close][close]
Why is it that the UI only seems to fuck me in drafts? Plus I had two back-to-back server game freezes
Sparktongue Dragon is an awesome red common (in draft). Wow. :whew
Too expensive IMO. 3RR for a plain 3/3 flyer is a bit steep, the lightning strike effect should be way cheaper than 2R. Like, just as much as good old bolt IMO.
Hey brehwalkers, remember my "Why did you counter this?" running gag? It's back, in Core Set 2019 form.
(https://i.imgur.com/lra00GS.jpg)
Essence Scatter trades up SO MUCH why why why why why.
Of course it's a myth. Shuffling is fucking broken. I lost count of how many times I get a hand of 7 with just one (or even no) lands, mulligan, then get 5 lands and some shit.
The rate at which it happens defies the laws of probability.
Also, great idea to have a stress test.
"Guys, we're getting reports that the game is crashing/freezing all the fucking time, for no reason. What do?"
"Dunno man, can't figure it"
"Any ideas? Guys?"
"Stress test?"
"YAY STRESS TEST"
The art is pretty, though. :yeshrug
Don't hate the painter, hate the game. :pacspit
It's like, what should I play this turn, a creature that doubles as a pump spell or a pump spell that doubles as a creature (Heroic Reinforcements)?
::)
(https://i.imgur.com/g3NN09e.png)
I also miss the days when all cards got flavor text.
I've been Duress'd four times today. Kara, help. :mjcry
I just drafted a red / white deck with Ajani, Adversary of Tyrants; Lena, Selfless Champion; Angel of the Dawn; 2x Heroic Reinforcements; 2x Militia Buglers; and 2x Pegasus Coursers. Can't wait to go 0-1 drop with this sucker.
It's almost like maybe they should just make good cards instead of worrying about how cards fit into the "story" and whether they're on theme or not. :idont
It's back to Dominaria again?
FFS, Ixalan hasn't been on draft for like ever.
There was some grumbling when it was first revealed, even though it was widely thought to be unplayable in Standard. The grumbling got quite a bit louder after a couple of pros tried to break it at the PT last weekend and it's spiked up to almost half the price of a box. :lol
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It's a month late but here's the deck I played at New Zealand Nationals for a respectable 4-1 in the Standard. I bricked the draft unfortunately (Jason Chung was in my draft pod so gg).
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/keld-red-w-black-splash/
I got so much stick for playing Dismissive Pyromancer but the card is is a house in a midrange matchup. As far as I can tell the only shit matchups are the mirror or vs. stock RB with scrapheaps, hearts of kiran, phoenix etc. Shreds control and midrange
The new set will be available btw. And anything pre-ixalan will be shitcanned.
Oh, and Sealed will be added.
Wizards/Hasbro are out of their goddamn minds.
Stop playing 5c goodstuff. That's not a viable strategy.
Stop playing 5c goodstuff. That's not a viable strategy.
Used to be back in the day. REEEEEEEE.
Stop playing 5c goodstuff. That's not a viable strategy.
Used to be back in the day. REEEEEEEE.
When the fuck did you play, Unlimited?
Fuck Teferi.
That's all.
TIMU is Oscar Tan, confirmed.
Fuck Teferi.
That's all.
Fuck Teferi.
That's all.
Could be worse: Could ramp up into "if I put one damage on you, you lose the game." Planeswalkers were a mistake, they're nothing but trash. (Along with "lose the game" clauses, but that's another discussion)
Going to pre-release tomorrow, if only for the sealed code and to see if I can grab (read: steal... pyohohoho</kidding>) someones preconstructed deck code for Arena.
Fuck Teferi.
That's all.
Could be worse: Could ramp up into "if I put one damage on you, you lose the game." Planeswalkers were a mistake, they're nothing but trash. (Along with "lose the game" clauses, but that's another discussion)
Going to pre-release tomorrow, if only for the sealed code and to see if I can grab (read: steal... pyohohoho</kidding>) someones preconstructed deck code for Arena.
Maybe, but at least those don't involve the game turning into a 45mins shitfest of "neither of us will now put anything on the board till I've drawn my second sun / milled you to death / exiled all your shit into oblivion lololololol"
Fuck Teferi.
That's all.
Could be worse: Could ramp up into "if I put one damage on you, you lose the game." Planeswalkers were a mistake, they're nothing but trash. (Along with "lose the game" clauses, but that's another discussion)
Going to pre-release tomorrow, if only for the sealed code and to see if I can grab (read: steal... pyohohoho</kidding>) someones preconstructed deck code for Arena.
Maybe, but at least those don't involve the game turning into a 45mins shitfest of "neither of us will now put anything on the board till I've drawn my second sun / milled you to death / exiled all your shit into oblivion lololololol"
If an opponent has assembled their soft lock/control state, it is incumbent on you as their opponent to mentally go over the possible outs from the situation that your deck can present to you. If there aren't any, you're the one wasting time by not conceding.
splashing some dimir surveil action with golgari undergrowth is very nice. prob good the other way round too.
If anyone wants a code for a free sealed event on Arena let me know. I got 6, but you can only use one per account. Man I thought I was so smart getting all these codes off people at the prerelease
Code 1: kry-oru9-6g6
Code 2: zba-j4f9-hzo
At midnight prerelease I took Dimir and bombed hard. I had more of a Golgari deck somehow (seeded packs eh :doge) but I forced Dimir because I'm a clown. I did win every game where I cast Nightveil Predator, but that's sort of why that card exists. Thanks to a bye in the last round I got prized out even though I never won a match. :money
I went to the spike prerelease yesterday evening and ended up with this.spoiler (click to show/hide)(https://i.imgur.com/kkr1z7Y.jpg)[close]
I rolled so hard. :lawd
Fire Urchin is really more of a Boros card. I would have liked a Wee Dragonauts instead.
Selective Snare is really weird but I liked it a lot because there are a lot of creatures that incidentally share a type. (Once I was able to get an enchantment off one of my own creatures and clear the way for some others casting it for 3.)
Sonic Assault and Direct Current are great. I thought the latter was bad when I saw the spoiler but no, it's not at all.
playing arena for the first time in a long time. this shit still has the worst interface I have used of any mtg digital client for building constructed decks. painful. how has this not been improved yet.
playing arena for the first time in a long time. this shit still has the worst interface I have used of any mtg digital client for building constructed decks. painful. how has this not been improved yet.
Jesus they still havent fixed this? The deckbuilder is almost as efficient as sorting paper cards into a deck
And fuck the damn nightveil predator in 2hg. We just couldnt touch it nor interact profitably, so we lost to it over many agonising turns. Great card!
Ultimate Masters is looking pretty packed. Karn, Lili, Emmy, Through the Breach, Goryo's Vengeance, Noble Hierarch, Goyf, Cavern of Souls, Bitterblossom, Snappy, all the greatest hits. They upped the MSRP to $14 a pack, but I'm just planning on buying singles anyway.
http://mythicspoiler.com/newspoilers.html
Ultimate Masters is looking pretty packed. Karn, Lili, Emmy, Through the Breach, Goryo's Vengeance, Noble Hierarch, Goyf, Cavern of Souls, Bitterblossom, Snappy, all the greatest hits. They upped the MSRP to $14 a pack, but I'm just planning on buying singles anyway.
http://mythicspoiler.com/newspoilers.html
I'm curious as to why Manamorphose isn't in here, perhaps it's on a watch list we're not privy to.
iirc you can't target a spell that can't be countered in MODO. The fact that you can in Arena is pretty silly, even with the existence of cards in Standard that have a pseudo Storm effect.
Also, we laugh about the Demotion misplays but it's going to lead to no more cards like Demotion, cards that "improve" Demotion by including triggered abilities that cost significantly more mana, or a pulling back on answers to creature abilities because they're "confusing." Not excited about any of those possibilities tbh.
https://www.reddit.com/r/magicTCG/comments/adl3r9/alex_bertoncini_banned_for_life/
It's still only beta right?Arena? It's in open beta and there won't be any more account wipes. Now is a good time to jump in.
If you have no bombs and no good synergies, that’s when you drop and then go home and get drunk.
Is sealed supposed to be shit or something?
>Open packs
>Nothing synergizes
WTF.
Krark-Clan Ironworks is banned. And nothing of value was lost.
Off-hand, I would cut at least 2 of those Dead Revels and play Light up the Stage and Clear the Stage. I would also cut the Deface, and add the Plague Wight. Replace a Gravel-Hide Goblin with Priest of Forgotten Gods.
All that matters is that 2-3 years after saying that Lightning Strike was too powerful for Standard, they’ve accidentally printed Lightning Bolt again in the same Standand as Shock and Lightning Strike. Pyromancers rise up!
All that matters is that 2-3 years after saying that Lightning Strike was too powerful for Standard, they’ve accidentally printed Lightning Bolt again in the same Standand as Shock and Lightning Strike. Pyromancers rise up!
Speaking of the Mythic Championship announcement, my #brand at the store I draft at is that all my shit is prehistoric (Hobby Japan deck box from 2002, old formula KMCs in colors you can't get anymore, et cetera). At the paper prerelease I went to I mentioned MODO during a conversation between games with my opponent and they replied, "Magic Online? You mean Arena?" Welcome to my shitty #brand, MODO. 8)
I beat several Azorius drafters, but Gruul took me to poundtown with Fires of Yavimaya 2.0: This Time it Stacks. Let me play this 2/2 creature, just kidding, it’s a 4/4 Big Chungus with haste.
Nothing gives me greater joy than curbstomping the idiots playing mill and gate decks in the casual play section of Arena with precons as I'm getting my daily quests out of the way for dat gold
(https://i.imgur.com/q0Z5Pvp.png)
:snob
Unranked, but still. I haven't played Standard in a minute and I wanted a paper deck for under $20 to fart around with at FNM.
(https://i.imgur.com/q0Z5Pvp.png)
:snob
Unranked, but still. I haven't played Standard in a minute and I wanted a paper deck for under $20 to fart around with at FNM.
(https://i.imgur.com/q0Z5Pvp.png)
:snob
Unranked, but still. I haven't played Standard in a minute and I wanted a paper deck for under $20 to fart around with at FNM.
In all honesty I should be just sleeving up this weapon :lol I have all the cards so why not lol
(https://i.imgur.com/q0Z5Pvp.png)
:snob
Unranked, but still. I haven't played Standard in a minute and I wanted a paper deck for under $20 to fart around with at FNM.
In all honesty I should be just sleeving up this weapon :lol I have all the cards so why not lol
is 4 guttersnipe and 2 risk factor a concession to not having the rares?
What's more, each of these 36 Planeswalkers will have a planeswalker card in War of the Spark. (The card art will be different, though—in fact, these stained-glass versions aren't appearing on cards at all!)
I guess they're moving planeswalkers back to rare from mythic at least for one set :thinking
I hope they overcompensate and accidentally make New Tibalt the most broken planeswalker ever.
Is having no sideboards but multiple decks better for an accessibility and "e-sports" perspective?
Owen Turtenwald was removed from the Mythic Invitational for unstated reasons. There are rumors that he may be a sex pervert.
Is having no sideboards but multiple decks better for an accessibility and "e-sports" perspective?
I'm guessing it's to speed up the process than searching your deck, removing cards, adding cards, etc.
You basically scoop, put it in the deck box, break out the next deck box, and shuffle.
Is having no sideboards but multiple decks better for an accessibility and "e-sports" perspective?
I'm guessing it's to speed up the process than searching your deck, removing cards, adding cards, etc.
You basically scoop, put it in the deck box, break out the next deck box, and shuffle.
But its all in Arena, all digital ???
This format is an abortion
Wait, there's seriously no way to gain loyalty? Is that the first planeswalker to do that?
Lili's passive ability. Hawt damn
Apparently there are only 3 mythic planewalkers btw (out of 36).
One is Tezzeret, last one isn't known yet but I'm gonna guess Nicky Bobby.
Apparently there are only 3 mythic planewalkers btw (out of 36).
One is Tezzeret, last one isn't known yet but I'm gonna guess Nicky Bobby.
Yeah, Bolas and Shiteon are the other two. Bolas’ passive is that he has the loyalty abilities of all other PWs on the board, lol.
Nü Tibalt being banned would probably be the funniest thing in the history of the game.spoiler (click to show/hide)Let's recreate the relevant text of a banned card but slap it on a type of permanent that is artificially difficult to remove from play. :sabu[close]
Second Sun combo deck.
Second Sun combo deck.
Mods, ban this filth.
Things had not changed and it didn’t seem like the MPL was happening in good faith.
Mark: Modern Horizons is going to be a love letter to Time Spiral block!
*Modern Horizons has snow lands and changeling in it*
:confused
Mark: Modern Horizons is going to be a love letter to Time Spiral block!
*Modern Horizons has snow lands and changeling in it*
:confused
They're completing the Horizon Canopy cycle. :whew
NIMBLE MONGOOSE IS GOING TO BE MODERN LEGAL :hyper :hyper :hyper
Ursinemic Assault
(https://i.imgur.com/MJwcccJ.jpg)
I'm confused, why are they advertising this set on MTGA?
https://www.forbes.com/sites/laurenorsini/2019/05/30/all-36-magic-the-gathering-war-of-the-spark-planeswalkers-ranked-by-datability/amp/
Kara, help :stahpspoiler (click to show/hide)Nissa being above Lili, I demand a recount.[close]
https://www.forbes.com/sites/laurenorsini/2019/05/30/all-36-magic-the-gathering-war-of-the-spark-planeswalkers-ranked-by-datability/amp/
Kara, help :stahpspoiler (click to show/hide)Nissa being above Lili, I demand a recount.[close]
Speaking of the worst card type in Magic, I know I joked about Tibalt being a banned card but Narset can fuck the hell off for replicating the worst part of Leovold on a type of card that's artificially difficult to remove from play.
mOdeRn HoRiZOnZ iS jUst an eDH sEt
https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/mtgo-standings/modern-league-2019-06-12 (https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/mtgo-standings/modern-league-2019-06-12)
Creature (15)
3 Hooting Mandrills
4 Nimble Mongoose
1 Nimble Obstructionist
3 Snapcaster Mage
4 Tarmogoyf
Sorcery (2)
2 Faithless Looting
Instant (16)
4 Lightning Bolt
2 Mana Leak
4 Skred
2 Spell Snare
4 Thought Scour
Enchantment (3)
3 Blood Moon
Land (14)
4 Misty Rainforest
1 Scalding Tarn
3 Snow-Covered Forest
3 Snow-Covered Island
1 Snow-Covered Mountain
1 Steam Vents
1 Stomping Ground
Other (10)
1 Fiery Islet
4 Prismatic Vista
1 Waterlogged Grove
4 Ice-Fang Coatl
Sideboard (15)
2 Ancient Grudge
2 Ceremonious Rejection
2 Dismember
3 Flusterstorm
2 Grim Lavamancer
2 Scavenging Ooze
2 Surgical Extraction
a cheap strong aggro deck is required in every standard format to keep things honest. without it control/combo/good stuff gets out of hand. they're currently pushing red, and rdw will always have it's diehard fans that will play it even if it's not that great. it does change, i've played standard formats in the recent ish past where the top aggressor was mono white, bant, golgari, gruul etc.
is their boner for it in regards to all the baller red stuff they printed in Ravnica Allegiance? or is it that you're getting smushed by people playing red in best of 1 in arena? red will probably always feel pushed there.
a cheap strong aggro deck is required in every standard format to keep things honest. without it control/combo/good stuff gets out of hand. they're currently pushing red, and rdw will always have it's diehard fans that will play it even if it's not that great. it does change, i've played standard formats in the recent ish past where the top aggressor was mono white, bant, golgari, gruul etc.
is their boner for it in regards to all the baller red stuff they printed in Ravnica Allegiance? or is it that you're getting smushed by people playing red in best of 1 in arena? red will probably always feel pushed there.
Here's a pretty good summary of what monored has become.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_9xebrxxfY&t=23m5s (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_9xebrxxfY&t=23m5s)
As a draft dork it cracks me up that a deck with 4 copies of Viashino Pyromancer and 4 of Fanatical Firebrand has been the scourge of Type 2 for months. Especially when you have that white / blue / black Hero of Precinct One deck floating around that costs $600. :lol
a cheap strong aggro deck is required in every standard format to keep things honest. without it control/combo/good stuff gets out of hand. they're currently pushing red, and rdw will always have it's diehard fans that will play it even if it's not that great. it does change, i've played standard formats in the recent ish past where the top aggressor was mono white, bant, golgari, gruul etc.
is their boner for it in regards to all the baller red stuff they printed in Ravnica Allegiance? or is it that you're getting smushed by people playing red in best of 1 in arena? red will probably always feel pushed there.
Here's a pretty good summary of what monored has become.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_9xebrxxfY&t=23m5s (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_9xebrxxfY&t=23m5s)
(https://i.imgur.com/vh6hn22.gif)
The "other one" = Risk Factor?
Mindless aggro decks are always going to be big on Arena, because you can get a shit ton of games in, win or lose, and get your daily quests and rewards done quicker. If you're grinding f2p, aggro is the way to go.
I've got mono red, mono blue curious obsession, u/r phoenix, and a janky ass white-green proliferate deck on Arena and although mono red is like my 3rd favorite to actually play out of that, I play it the most because I can get the best results in the least amount of time. Phoenix is, for me, the most fun to play but the win rate is worse and games take longer.
The main problem with mono red is rampaging steam kin with draw spells like light up the stage and experimental frenzy and the other one I can't remember right now. Giving red ramp and card draw when it already aggros the best and burns your face off on top of it is kinda dumb.
:notlikethis
Also, is that Regulator a chastity belt...?
I pretty much just draft U/R spells on Arena ranked, cause you can get the good shit mid to late pick even. My last draft tho I had P1P1 Sarkhan, then my next pick was Tibalt. I just drafted like 5 or 6 on color Planeswalkers (including two Saheelis, cause there is no god) and would just do stupid shit. 6-3'd that one, tho.
They are going to be announcing a new format soon where you can build decks with previous Arena sets.
I just want Modern Horizons on Arena. :'(
I just want Modern Horizons on Arena. :'(
lol, Arena still can't even auto-update and you want Modern cards in it.
No, I mean when I click Arena it says "your client is out of date, please launch a different executable that we hide in Program Files to update it."
Oh that. :lol Yeah, it ate my shortcut. So at this point I know where that launcher in C: is.
No, I mean when I click Arena it says "your client is out of date, please launch a different executable that we hide in Program Files to update it."
(http://mythicspoiler.com/m20/cards/rottingregisaur.jpg)
:isthis power creep?
The fact that this doesn't say "or destory it" makes this an insane top-end for some Black aggro deck.
Kai is competing at the Arena Pro Tour this weekend. :gladbron
It's closed to the public. :goty
Sharpie off the "sacrifice 2 lands on entering the battlefield" clause, and you got a Black Lotus (when you want a white Lotus).
Murder is a common in Core Set 2020. RIP draft / sealed.
Triumph, you don't have to dish any trade secrets but it seems like the MODO market is bouncing back a bit (based solely on market price and not volume). Noticing lots of cards currently in print that are more expensive than they are in paper. Am I just getting really lucky here?
Modern Horizons not being on Arena has helped a lot. Long term prognosis of the program is dire however, not many people bother to draft or play standard, so eventually it's going to die and I'll need to find a new job. Or also die, whichevs.
Planeswalkers were a mistake, they're nothing but :trash
-I got to Man-o'-War a Marit Lage token 8)
-I got to Man-o'-War a Marit Lage token 8)
OOF :dead
:notlikethis
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:notlikethis
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this is a Planeswalker deck card to fetch its planeswalker. Its weird and bad as per usual. News at 11
:notlikethis
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this is a Planeswalker deck card to fetch its planeswalker. Its weird and bad as per usual. News at 11
Huh, didn't realize, was just scrolling through the spoilers. Are these non-playable in regular formats then?
3 free random mythics from GRN, RNA, and WAR on Arena with the code MYTHICMAGIC
good take man - enjoyed those picks. Yeah that black common is ooooohhhhweee. Gonna make a splash in pauper?!
Not sure on that lizard - on paper it looks ideal for the brew I just posted, but it just feels too low impact. If it had haste it would replace Fanatical Firebrand RIGHT NOW. I remember being lukewarm on ol Viashino P when I first saw him so lizard may surprise me.
Amonket and Kaladesh blocks will not be legal for Historic. Smell you later, Kaladesh.
Arena collections won't wipe at rotation.
They're making a pretend format that doesn't rotate for Arena called Historic even though it's the youngest format and there's a mechanic called historic in the game.
Amonket and Kaladesh blocks will not be legal for Historic. Smell you later, Kaladesh.
Arena collections won't wipe at rotation.
They're making a pretend format that doesn't rotate for Arena called Historic even though it's the youngest format and there's a mechanic called historic in the game.
Amonket and Kaladesh blocks will not be legal for Historic. Smell you later, Kaladesh.
I fully support keeping Kaladesh and energy out of as much of the game as possible, so that part is fine with me.
MagicFest, bitches. 8)
Just finished getting my butt kicked in a single-elimination sealed WAR GPT. I had a decent deck (I think) but I mulled to 5 in game 3 then kept a bad hand because I didn’t want to mull again. My opponent curved out perfectly and I died before casting a spell. That’s Magic.
:trumps
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Now I’m just browsing the vendors, trying to not buy any of these waifu Narsets.
Now I’m just browsing the vendors, trying to not buy any of these waifu Narsets.
Just finished getting my butt kicked in a single-elimination sealed WAR GPT. I had a decent deck (I think) but I mulled to 5 in game 3 then kept a bad hand because I didn’t want to mull again. My opponent curved out perfectly and I died before casting a spell. That’s Magic.
:trumps
(https://i.imgur.com/lx9JYZe.jpg)
Now I’m just browsing the vendors, trying to not buy any of these waifu Narsets.
Mission failed. :juicyspoiler (click to show/hide)(https://i.imgur.com/WaGk6f1.jpg)spoiler (click to show/hide)I actually didn’t directly buy Narset, but I did buy 5 packs of JPN WAR and opened a Narset and nothing else of interest or value, so you can decide for yourself if that is less pathetic or more.[close][close]
I got drunk this weekend, did a Modern Horizons draft (??) and drafted the blue / red "draw more than 1 card a turn" trap deck?? Somehow I'm 1-1??
4x copies of Spinehorn Minotaur, 3x copies of Urza's Rage, 1x Pyrophobia, 1x Magmatic Sinkhole... yeah, this is a deck I'd draft if I was not thinking clearly.spoiler (click to show/hide)Tectonic Reformation in the blue red "draw more than 1 card a turn" trap deck. :whew[close]spoiler (click to show/hide)1x Viashino Sandsprinter is a heads up filler pick. Not bad, me. :obama[close]
I won a game with Ravenous Giant. :lol
With the new set out, people are playing ABSOLUTE JANK on the ranked standard section of Arena, like r/g elementals with no/very little removal, and I'm still just jamming RDW and crushing them with no mercy, dat ranking gonna be good this month fam
:aah
Where are you seeing all that jank? Bronze league?
I keep running into the usual lame'o esper superfriends / monobored / lifelink kitties.
I'm in bronze. Haven't played anything but draft and sealed on Arena for a long, long time.
I'm in bronze. Haven't played anything but draft and sealed on Arena for a long, long time.
Are you made of money?
If it’s another “No changes” announcement, there’s gonna be so much salt. :lol
Ban Teferis. All of them.
So when we discard those cards, we aren't actually discarding a card: since that card can still be played, and the equity we spend to play it from the graveyard is the same as the equity we would spend if played from hand, that card can still be thought of as in our hand.
This post is fairly long so I'm going to cut it short here. I'm going to postface this article by reminding the reader that the power level of Modern cantrips has been decided that [[Ponder]] and [[Preordain]], which are always simple card equity (draw 1 discard 1) are banned.
It's a fine card and it shouldn't ever be banned.
Two copies of Planebound Accomplices in a Modern Horizons draft. FOH. :lol
Two copies of Planebound Accomplices in a Modern Horizons draft. FOH. :lol
Two copies of Planebound Accomplices in a Modern Horizons draft. FOH. :lol
Round 1 of this draft was pretty memorable. :lol
Game 1:
(https://i.imgur.com/tbmeygR.png)
Game 3:
(https://i.imgur.com/PfByTnQ.png)spoiler (click to show/hide)tfw you have to draft red / green slivers because there are two red / green lands matter drafters at your table. :belispoiler (click to show/hide)tfw you have Tempered Sliver plus Sword of Truth and Justice in your red / green slivers deck. :obama[close]spoiler (click to show/hide)tfw you have a sub-subtheme in your red / green lands matter deck that's 2 copies of Squirrel Nest, a Bogardan Dragonheart, and a Bellowing Elk. :neo[close][close]
Half of Arena is so horny for that Flash deck.
:snore
very nice horizons draft list. what result?
https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/making-magic/project-booster-fun-2019-07-20
"Shit, what can we do to boost sales" is what I get from this.
:bow Overpriced cosmetics, blunt AI, and whizzbang visual / audio effects covering up what a piece of shit Arena still is. :bow2
Half of Arena is so horny for that Flash deck.
:snore
Half of Arena is so horny for that Flash deck.
:snore
What do you play?
Seems you're always mad at whatever the meta deck du jour is at any given time. That's competitive magic. Best to get used to it and learn to meta game or be stuck in gold forever.
:bow Overpriced cosmetics, blunt AI, and whizzbang visual / audio effects covering up what a piece of shit Arena still is. :bow2
And people want it to kill MODO because MODO isn't F2P. :doge
:bow Overpriced cosmetics, blunt AI, and whizzbang visual / audio effects covering up what a piece of shit Arena still is. :bow2
And people want it to kill MODO because MODO isn't F2P. :doge
It's not a great program to stream and every match is a grind so I can see why streamers and pros would prefer it went away but Arena is going to run worse and worse as they cram in more and more cosmetic malarkey and over-ambitious levels.
Leave it to Wizards to screw the pooch...
Anyone play with Monored Phoenix? I heard it described as the better Infect deck in Modern and that piqued my interest, especially as I already own almost all of the deck in paper already.
Anyone play with Monored Phoenix? I heard it described as the better Infect deck in Modern and that piqued my interest, especially as I already own almost all of the deck in paper already.
I've only played Izzet Phoenix, aka the better Storm deck in Modern.
Surveil?
Card draw is too powerful to wall off in the color pie. It's a struggle, no doubt.
Good creature removal too, tbh. Part of the reason why black is the most boring color by far is that reason alone.
My initial draft of (https://i.imgur.com/lQv9Jrl.png) All Chandras.
White / green Infect? :leon
https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/2117542
DORKCASTER MAGE :lol :rage
that deck is about as perfect for snap as a deck can be.
Proliferate works on Planeswalker's... :brain :brain :brain :brain
Proliferate works on Planeswalker's... :brain :brain :brain :brain
That's why it's in War of the Spark. :lol
OK Borewalkers: box of Modern Horizons or buy the singles I need to finish Monored Phoenix. Leaning towards the former.
e: I know boxes suck but I like 75% of the cards in the set.
New Arena client updater is nice.
Not having disk space (that I only found out about due to the wrapper "fix" I had to make since the "OOPS! CAN'T UPDATE!" error gave me jack-shit to go on): https://forums.mtgarena.com/forums/threads/58489 is not good. :doge
Cleared the space, and it's downloading a 1gig update (so now I know where some of the drive space seems to be needed), but the installer doesn't seem to be doing the "delete and reinstall EVERYTHING" now so that's good. Baby steps...
You're good, you can sac in response and fizzle their spell. Activated abilities are assumed to be instant speed unless it specifically says "Activate this ability only any time you could cast a sorcery",
Who's Hogaak?
Am I LSV?
:isthis
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2-0 right now... 3-0 would be pretty sweet.
When you splice onto Magmatic Sinkhole you can delve more than 5 to reduce the cost added by the spliced card as well.
ITT: Horrible/ Useless Rare
[[Drinker of Sorrow]], [[Kezzerdrix]], [[Lava Hounds]]
>>67808986
>>67808842
>>67808965
You're probably too young to remember this, but back in the day cards were allowed to have drawbacks in order to offset comparatively low mana costs.
>>67809278
Yeah back when removal was good and these things would be easily destroyed.
>>67809437
Most of the people who say that didn't play back then either. Removal as a whole wasn't particularly exceptional back then, it was just standout cards like Swords and Lightning Bolt. A 4/4 black creature was very hard to deal with back then as it dodged most cheap burn and virtually all black removal. As a thought exercise, look through Tempest and take note of how many answers there are for Kezzedrix that cost less than 4 mana.
>>67809652
>circle of protection: black
>counterspell
>diabolic edict
>time ebb
Also you picked black which was the one weakness of black back then was dealing with other black creatures. Whereas the only good removal that's been printed lately was that Ob Nixilis' Wrath or whatever that gave -5/-5 for 2B.
>>67810475
Diabolic edict lets the opponent chose the creature yo sacrifice. so its a bargain and you usually had to plan for it along with a nekrataal or by using wave of terror or other removal with less conditions that would damage you too (wrath with splash, trying to get your opponent to discard things with duress or hymn to tourach, etc).
Circle of protection of a color was usually a dead card in hand, unless you were playing against that particular color or you were using Story Circles, wich was 3 cmc and needed untapped lands for each source anyways.
White had the best targeted removals, but swords, wrath of god, topple or even exile had drawbacks.
Blue had to try to bounce things back to the hand or hard counter things when "in the stack", but usually any deck with creatures like black sucide or Winnie had something like 18+ creatures, so you would only hope to delay or counter the strongest of them and try to assemble your combo/ put your finisher in the game and porotect it before being overrun by little elves of other horrible things.
Even red with things like incinerate, disintegrate, bolts, fireballs, fireblast and the like was in trouble when something like blastoderm hit the table, a 5/5 with a drawback that you could not target,
as >>67809652 has said, strong creatures where hard to kill back then if you didnt draw a Wrath or used two card (two bolts o whatever). your opponent with more life). And they mostly had drawbacks or where multicolor (terminate, pernicius deed...)
>>67809437
Yes, removal was even better and these were good creatures, because having p/t equal to CMC beyond 2 meant you had a drawback.
Up until Invasion, your options for 3/3 (or better) for 3 were the vanilla Trained Armadon or the tricolor Tetsuo Umezawa, or something with a drawback. Cathodian lost its drawback when mana burn stopped existing
The first drawbackless 4/4 for 4 was in Onslaught (Ravenous Baloth), though Su-Chi's in the same boat as Cathodian.
Five mana is funny. You get the five-color Queen at Tempest (and then three more five colors in Cromat, Atogatog and Sliver Overlord in Apocalypse, Odyssey and Scourge), a vanilla 5/5 in not-legal tempest and then reprinted in 8th (making it a Real Magic Card at the time) in Silverback Ape, and then their first time thinking that yes, a 5/5 for 5 is fine without drawbacks is in Saviours of Kamigawa with Arashi, the Sky Asunder.
And really, with it, the fivecolors, and Tetsuo, Legendary is a drawback, just one of the least relevant ones, so that means true no-drawbacks 5/5 or better for 5 doesn't come until fuckan LORWYN with Chameleon Colossus
Six mana gets us either the Invasion Dragons or Ravnica's Gleancrawler, depending on how much one cares about Legendaryness. Amusingly, no vanilla til Innistrad.
You begin the game by shuffling your deck. Then, cut your opponent's deck, and turn over the top card as ante (p.7). Draw seven cards from your own deck for your hand, and determine who goes first (p.7).
but were we really expecting StoneForge Mystic getting UNBANNED?! I thought that was never gonna happen.
1 Captain of the Watch
4 Elite Vanguard
1 Gideon's Avenger
2 Gideon's Lawkeeper
4 Glory Seeker
2 Kitesail Apprentice
2 Kor Duelist
3 Kor Hookmaster
3 Kor Outfitter
2 Serra Angel
1 Stoneforge Mystic
1 Brave the Elements
1 Infiltration Lens
2 Kitesail
1 Pennon Blade
1 Strider Harness
2 Trusty Machete
3 Arrest
24 Plains
OFC 'Gaak got banned but were we really expecting StoneForge Mystic getting UNBANNED?! I thought that was never gonna happen.
It's a difficult problem to tackle, but to do so, we're changing how Wildcards work for Historic cards.
Starting after an update in November, crafting a Historic card will require you to redeem two Wildcards of the appropriate rarity instead of one. If a Historic card also appears in a current Standard set, players will be able to redeem one Wildcard for one copy of the Standard version, however, the Historic version will still require two.
For example, you can play Luminous Bonds in Historic whether it's the Rivals of Ixalan version or the Guilds of Ravnica version, but starting in November the Rivals of Ixalan version will cost two common Wildcards, while the Guilds of Ravnica version will cost one common Wildcard. Both versions will be playable in both Historic and Standard.
I thought about that. I didn’t see there was an official response. :lol
I thought about that. I didn’t see there was an official response. :lol
(https://img.fireden.net/v/image/1527/85/1527858700477.png)
I thought about that. I didn’t see there was an official response. :lol
(https://img.fireden.net/v/image/1527/85/1527858700477.png)
Speaking of which:
"2:1 Historic."
WTF Wizards.
"Ok, ok, we 'hear you', we'll 1:1 it!"
You've done this song and dance before, Wizards. At least 5 times now, are you sure this isn't planned on your part?
Mill is going to be a thing huh.
(https://img.scryfall.com/cards/normal/front/d/a/daff1c8d-0f25-4bec-bd50-208ae2ac0aac.jpg)
(https://img.scryfall.com/cards/normal/front/6/a/6afc67d1-1018-4a15-ab5f-377fd11dcd3d.jpg)
I mean, they're gonna try to get away with it if they can.
Mill is going to be a thing huh.
(https://img.scryfall.com/cards/normal/front/d/a/daff1c8d-0f25-4bec-bd50-208ae2ac0aac.jpg)
(https://img.scryfall.com/cards/normal/front/6/a/6afc67d1-1018-4a15-ab5f-377fd11dcd3d.jpg)
Narrator: "In fact, mill was never going to be a thing."
Mill is going to be a thing huh.
(https://img.scryfall.com/cards/normal/front/6/a/6afc67d1-1018-4a15-ab5f-377fd11dcd3d.jpg)
Gotta get them whales. :zzz
im sure having a wrath of god with a 7/7 attached for later cured a lot of ills....
im sure having a wrath of god with a 7/7 attached for later cured a lot of ills....
It didn't come in handy that often tbh. Lots of giants in this set
im sure having a wrath of god with a 7/7 attached for later cured a lot of ills....
It didn't come in handy that often tbh. Lots of giants in this set
:rkelly
that sucks. wraths are typically so good in sealed, I didn't realise the giant clause was a big deal
Also, MTG fans getting triggered on Twitter are missing the point, the real outrage is that "Pony" isn't even a valid creature type in MTG. :trigger
"Oh yeah, what about Dwarven Pony?" It was errata'd into a horse!! Read Gatherer! :ufup
(https://i.imgur.com/je76Q02.png)
...seems like ramp is king, which makes me sad because I hate it :-\
Wish there was a good aggro deck
In true Timmy fashion, I bought a couple of Collector's Edition packs at Wal-Mart this weekend. :lol They were $26 each. :'( I do love the showcase frames. I think they're amazing. Prices of the singles are starting to tank online now that the set is out there and the initial hype is dying down, so don't think I'll be cracking anymore packs of that, but I do think it's a cool product that's way overpriced.
Letting Oko start with 6 loyalty is also pretty wtf. It’s a 3cmc walker, and I can’t even Fry it the turn it comes down?
Nuke Teferi from orbit.
oko ban or just golos / field ?
oko ban or just golos / field ?
Ban Fires of Invention too, free spells should be verboten, especially if you're casting planeswalkers for free that will effect the game for turns down the line.
I don't think Oko needs to be banned. I would be happier if he cost 4 or started at 3 loyalty, tho
Ban on MTGA will only be applied on Oct 24th :notlikethis
NuModern format (starts with RTR, fetches banned).
But there's a gap. A sizeable one. The oldest Modern set came out in 2003—sixteen years ago. And now that Modern's card pool is this large, it no longer serves the needed role of "format where you can use your Standard cards after rotation."
Everyone else: A 3cmc, 4 loyalty PW that can be very easily dropped on T2 in standard, with a +1 ability that can turn ANY creature or artefact on the board turn into a vanilla 3/3 might be a bit much.
WotC: :pika
4x Scorch Spitters (Foil)
4x Fervent Champion (Extended Foil)
4x Runaway Steam-Kin (Foil)
4x Rimrock Knight (Showcase Foil)
4x Bonecrusher Giant (Showcase Foil)
2x Torbran, Thane of Red Fell (Extended Foil)
4x Shock (FNM Promo)
4x Light up the Stage (FNM Promo)
4x Slaying Fire (FNM Promo)
4x Skewer the Critics (Foil)
2x Experimental Frenzy (Foil)
17x Mountain (Eldraine Foils)
3x Castle Embereth (Extended Foil)
Joe you ain't playing with foil Unhinged mountains?
(https://www.thecoli.com/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/scust.png)
Those lands on the other hand. :snoop
Whoever made witch's oven ability an interrupt-like one should be fed to a cat. Shit's obnoxious.
Oh shit, I think I might have 1-2 of those from the starter '99 set. Are the foils actually worth something? :lol
>Ban him from casual events
>don't ban him from the format you're hawking that is a flaming dumpster fire 10-15 years running
What did Wizards of the Coast mean by this?
But booster sales.
New supplemental set Mystery is just a bunch of random-ass cards from almost every set, old cards have old frames, and there are fake playtest cards. I don't even know what to make of this. Reprint value doesn't seem great, but there is stuff like Mana Crypt in it.
:mindblown
That one might be real.
New supplemental set Mystery is just a bunch of random-ass cards from almost every set, old cards have old frames, and there are fake playtest cards. I don't even know what to make of this. Reprint value doesn't seem great, but there is stuff like Mana Crypt in it.
:mindblown
Edit: Apparently this is about the artist ( Terese Nielsen ) is who they're protesting so all these cards are by that artist.
Still... :doge
She originally doodled on Terese Neilsen lands, but she was told she couldn’t use them if the writing covers the mana symbol, so she switched to full art lands where the mana symbol is smaller.
https://mobile.twitter.com/AutumnLilyMTG/status/1192953657102389248
Also, these Guru lands are worth about $500.
They'll ban Once Upon a Time before Oko if you look at the usage numbers there. :doge
But where's #PermanantBrawlMode tho?
Can't have permanent brawl, can't have Chandra and Nissa lezzing out, but here's Historic mode that nobody wants.
I don't understand why they don't include Kaladesh etc in Historic. It's not like they have to implement those sets from scratch.
What Happened? On November 14, 2019, we learned that an internal database file from a decommissioned version of the Wizards of the Coast website login had inadvertently been made accessible outside the company.
https://www.reddit.com/r/magicTCG/comments/dx0p5t/apparent_wizards_security_breach_copied_from/QuoteWhat Happened? On November 14, 2019, we learned that an internal database file from a decommissioned version of the Wizards of the Coast website login had inadvertently been made accessible outside the company.
Nice.
Oko, Once Upon a Time, and Veil of Summer are all banned in Standard. It's the fourth time in three years they've banned a mythic or a combo involving a mythic. (Emrakul, Aetherworks, Saheeli/Cat). :notlikethis
Ultimately, we did not properly respect his ability to invalidate essentially all relevant permanent types, and over the course of a slew of late redesigns, we lost sight of the sheer, raw power of the card, and overshot it by no small margin.
we did not properly respect his ability to invalidate essentially all relevant permanent types
we did not properly respect
his ability to invalidate essentially all relevant permanent types
I built Izzet Flash for FNM, but I ended up with a splitting headache and didn't go this week. :fbm
I had intended to build Jeskai Fires, but I decided I wanted something with a little more interaction and Izzet Flash speaks to me. I'm using this decklist to start with.
https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/2515364#paper
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As someone who dislikes playing against someone using alters I guess I'm happy that there are more official "alters" in the wild but man. :donot
StarCity Games cut Tom Ross and it's spilled out (more) onto the internet.
https://www.reddit.com/r/magicTCG/comments/e1ae6h/tom_ross_my_statement_regarding_being_cut_from/
"Someone wrote ‘cute cats’ on the whiteboard. The whole room was like, ‘Yep, obviously, ship it.’"
StarCity has had paywall content since I was a grinder, unless you mean almost all their mediocre free content has now gone away too. I don't go the the site very much because their tour doesn't go out west and I buy almost all my singles from Channel Fireball (they collect California sales tax) so I wouldn't know if that's changed.
StarCity Games cut Tom Ross and it's spilled out (more) onto the internet.
https://www.reddit.com/r/magicTCG/comments/e1ae6h/tom_ross_my_statement_regarding_being_cut_from/
My face when I see they went with Serum Visions instead of Brainstorm for the blue spell
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what's going on in play design is confusing. their explanation for oko in that they didn't really use it on their opponents stuff that much ??? how did they not use repeatable beast within on their opponents permanents and realise it's very, very good.
What's going on in play design is that they have no clout to derail the Rosewater/Forsythe Express, and as time goes by they're probably getting dumber and less likely to recognize broken shit/interactions, so it likely gets worse from here.
To me, Rosewater is actually not awful at his job. It's his job to shit out a million ideas. Forsythe is the unforgivable one, his job is to curb the nonsense and he doesn't seem to give a shit. I remember his explanation for having Stoneforge Mystic and Batterskull in the same format was that "Scars was a heavy artifact block, and the direct sequel to the block that introduced equipment, so we didn't want to let the existence of Stoneforge Mystic stop us from doing cool equipment" or something along those lines. Dude has been trash for at least a decade, fire him.
are you a lawyer timu?
Even in Magic Junior, white gets screwed. Blue gets a slightly worse Ancestral Recall, Red gets Lightning Bolt, Green gets Regrowth, and White gets a worse Healing Salve.
WotC: "Oh but of course, feel free to distribute this, as long as you don't sell it. :heart fan-made stuff :heart"
"Thanks for your free help converting fresh souls to our IP. We'll be delighted to get their pocket money ASAP.
Also, if this is successful, we'll totally rip it off."
"Gee, our mini-commander mode seems popular on Arena! What can we do to make it more popular than being Wednesday only, my dudes?"
"Make our customers pay 10,000 in gold(!!!!! -Editor) to enter it on non-Wednesdays, my dudes."
"PERFECT!"
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Why does Wizard's hate their customers so fucking much?
colour pie restrictions on functionality are so important.
lol https://www.playmagiclegends.com/en
I just don't really know who the intended core for this is. so many supplemental products already.
I signed up. :yeshrug
re:pioneer. my (hot) take: ban thoughtseize, ouat, oko, t3feri, field and nexus :pimp
maybe copter and mutavault too.
rip the bandaid off.
as long as seize is around, the format will be skewed towards black. just like theros block standard. formats with such terrible card selection can't handle thoughtseize. it's too crushing.
Fuck over how
That secret lair thing was such a bad joke, you knew that foiling was gonna be terrible but hey.
Some cool spoilers coming out for Theros 2. I'm liking the silly fish subtheme:
(http://mythicspoiler.com/tbd/cards/wavebreakhippocamp.jpg)
I really wanna give this a crack in limited
:lol Printing an insanely pushed piece of equipment in an enchantment set. :doge
Check out the first trailer for Magic: Legends, coming to PS4, Xbox and PC in 2020.:rofl
Oh, I didn't know it was actually a mobile game.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLqYT9CSYZAspoiler (click to show/hide):roflQuoteCheck out the first trailer for Magic: Legends, coming to PS4, Xbox and PC in 2020.:rofl[close]
Nice flavor since it doesn’t kill the Theros Gods.
They have indestructible.
Now I can get out my Nissa, Who Shakes the World and Nyxbloom Ancient faster! :hyper
New stuff coming up on Arena:
- cards from boosters will have a "First" tag if you don't own a copy of it yet (no1curr).
- history ranked will go on holidays for a while - i.e. until Ikoria is about to drop (because why not). Instead they'll add the constructed events (Bo1 and Bo3, with entry cost, same as the standard ones).
- The Brawlidays event is coming back for a whole month (10k gold entry cost lolz).
At this point, just ban Modern Horizons.
Opal breaks the rules more than Urza! Urza is one of the most powerful cards in the game, but it's also 4cmc.
Opal breaks the rules more than Urza! Urza is one of the most powerful cards in the game, but it's also 4cmc.
Opal breaks rules that have been broken forever (i.e. the game has absorbed the transgressive behavior). Urza is a stupid pushed creature that has a win condition AND lets you cast any spell for 5 generic mana repeatedly AND turns any artifact into a Mox Sapphire.
https://www.reddit.com/r/MagicArena/comments/ep28qm/dear_wotc_the_official_subreddit_for_your_game/
Mono red comin back boys
:lawd
During the Oko era. :doge :doge :doge
Previews for Ikoria: Lair of the Behemoths don’t start until April 2, but I’ve been getting a lot of requests from people cooped up at home that are eager for any content, so I decided to do something I used to do all the time back in my column in The Duelist. I’m going to be giving you a Maro Teaser where I give tiny hints of things to come. Note that I’m only giving you partial information.
:picard
:picard
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EUnEfanUcAA-lYS.jpg:large)
:corona_mj
:picard
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:corona_mj
Wizards needs to stop apologising for this shit and just let people get over it
Mixing mammals and reptiles; you're tampering in God's domain, Wizards. :wag
This the most powerful card in the game rn? At least in arena? What I'm reading is the 7 cost isn't that high a barrier atm :lol
https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/mtgo-standings/standard-challenge-2020-05-10
Out of 32 decks, 11 are playing 80 cards. #WorkingAsIntended
https://www.reddit.com/r/magicTCG/comments/gj4y4c/magic_in_100_years_modern_2120/
What the... how does that work past the first round? Yorion is Island/Plains (U/W), that deck is full mono-Mountain/R. How doesn't the opponent catch the bluff? Also is 40 the minimum in best-of-three?
Here’s the WotC playbook on this, in case anyone is wondering:
1 .Reduce payout for the PT Season by ~2.5 million USD
2. Move the tournaments to Arena without God accounts
3. When people freak out about both, correct #2 only.
4. Claim victory as everyone puts down their pitchforks. Now, no one is talking about the $2.5mm in missing prize money anymore.
Now, no one is talking about the $2.5mm in missing prize money anymore.
What the... how does that work past the first round? Yorion is Island/Plains (U/W), that deck is full mono-Mountain/R. How doesn't the opponent catch the bluff? Also is 40 the minimum in best-of-three?
It only works for Game 1. Basically just plop down Yorion as your Companion, your opponent is like "Okay, U/W Control or Jeskai Fires, I can keep this hand", then you go "Mountain, Fervent Champion, attack" and your opponent's head explodes. :lol
In Games 2 and 3, you side out 14 cards and name Obosh as your Companion.
"Companions are all banned, we fired Mark Rosewater. Be happy! Pleasebuyournextset."
Are they actually returning wildcards on banned cards like they did two years ago? I might craft Agent of Treachery and the Companions in that case. :lol
I don't think they'll outright ban companions, probably change it to either 1) reveal companion at start of game, shuffle into deck or 2) reveal companion at start of game, draw one fewer card and then decide on mulligan, add companion to starting hand when you've made a decision
I don't think they'll outright ban companions, probably change it to either 1) reveal companion at start of game, shuffle into deck or 2) reveal companion at start of game, draw one fewer card and then decide on mulligan, add companion to starting hand when you've made a decision
A leak (aka rumor, lie) that I heard was that you'll have to pay (3) to move your companion to your hand whenever you're able to cast a sorcery.
However, there may still be bans. A lot of people are done with Fires. :lol
Players who have Fires of Invention and/or Agent of Treachery as a part of their in-game collection on MTG Arena prior to the game update on June 4 will receive an equal number of rare Wildcards added to their collection as part of the update. Players will receive an in-game notification when the ban takes effect.
Yeah, Dog is now the preferred nomenclature at WotC; all Hounds are errata'd. Apparently it's been one of Maro's pet (no pun intended) issues.
Yeah I mean by that logic they could also come up with a 1GG 15/15 trample haste create 10 3/3 tokens when it attacks and you could provide the same answer. Doesn't make the card any less dumb.
Breaking news: Green is still dumb.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YzHtePuz13U
After spoiling "Trapped in the tower" on 9/11, and the Death Corona shenanigans, WotC / maro can't keep getting away with it.
https://twitter.com/maro254/status/1270464726716215297
I mean, Invoke Prejudice's art and Gatherer coded number (1488) is "oh damn" bad luck/really bad art.
I mean, Invoke Prejudice's art and Gatherer coded number (1488) is "oh damn" bad luck/really bad art.
lol, are you actually implying the card invoke prejudice isn't intentionally racist? the card id'd later with 1488 and drawn by an overt neo-nazi?
shit like having
Cleanse: Destroy All Black Creatures
The clouds broke and the sun's rays burst forth; each foul beast in its turn faltered, and was gone.
vs.
Virtue's Ruin: Destroy All White Creatures
All must fall, and those who stand highest fall hardest.
wotc have a checkered af past and present
I can't wait to see the geniuses on MTGA try to blink this with their Yorion and whatnot to reset the counters.
(https://i.redd.it/16absznmy2551.png)
I can't wait to see the geniuses on MTGA try to blink this with their Yorion and whatnot to reset the counters.
(https://i.redd.it/16absznmy2551.png)
Wouldn't that not work and the counters stay?
Cryptic-er Command
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could be a pioneer pillowfort deck in there (solemnity etc)Cryptic-er Command
(https://i.imgur.com/jqd0vZw.jpg)
big U :heartbeat
Especially since they're probably counterfeit.
Burning tree emissary is banned, while nonsense like Wilderness Reclamation is OK? All right then :lol
im interested in what magic raist actually likes. dont think ive ever read a post from them that isn't whinging about some cards or archetype.
With all these reprintings soon my Spanish book promo Mana Crypt will be worth nothing at all, not that I can figure out what it's supposed to be worth atm
Also funny to see great players make the correct decision under nü Magic theory when it's very wrong under old (stack) Magic theory.
https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/news/august-8-2020-banned-and-restricted-announcement
:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
Burning tree emissary is banned, while nonsense like Wilderness Reclamation is OK? All right then :lol
But TIMU, they were keeping Wilderness Reclamation decks in check!
We've often heard the feedback that the repetitive play patterns and reduced capability for interaction that Teferi, Time Raveler can create feel oppressive and limiting.
I'm surprised Commander hasn't banned him. I mean, only Legacy and Vintage haven't yet. Which is a little funny since Vintage banned Lurrus.
I'm surprised Commander hasn't banned him. I mean, only Legacy and Vintage haven't yet. Which is a little funny since Vintage banned Lurrus.
not as powerful in multiplayer, though still very good imo.
chulane itself deserves a ban much more than oko in edh. card is ridiculously busted and i feel bad playing it, i just really wanted to make a goodstuff value town deck that had reasonable answers to everything. well, i achieved it. reminds me of when i first started playing edh and i brought mono white eight and a half tails prison deck focussing on land d and stax effects feat. humility to my (at the time) very casual meta and had to endure constant groans. usually my goodstuff deck is my aggro-midrange saskia, but that's actually just genuinely fair fun (with some infinite combats possibilities, but still have to win via combat). simic in general in edh is busted and a bit boring (kinnan, yarok, golos, chulane, muldrotha, vannifar etc etc).
Yami: "And now, I play New Stone Rain."
Kaiba: "Hah, you're as pathetic as always, Yugi. Can you not even see what I've played? I control only basic lands, so your New Stone Rain is worthless."
Yami: "Ah, but I'm not targeting YOUR lands, Kaiba. I target my own Darksteel Citadel!"
Kaiba: *shocked*
Yami: "You see, Kaiba, not only does my Darksteel Citadel SURVIVE the New Stone Rain, but now I may place an additional land from my deck onto the battlefield and draw an additional card. ... Ah, just the card I needed, Lightning Bolt. Using the mountain I put on the battlefield, I now play Lightning Bolt, targeting your final blocker!"
Kaiba: "How could I have lost?"
Yami: "Hmm. You played well, Kaiba. But you sacrificed your creatures and your life points. I'm afraid this game ends now. I attack with all of my creatures, bringing your life total to zero!"
An homage to classic adventuring parties, the new party mechanic highlights four specific creature types: Cleric, Rogue, Warrior, and Wizard. The number of creatures in your party is how many of those roles you can fill with a creature you control. Each creature you control can fill a maximum of one role.
Abilities that care about the number of creatures in your party simply look for a number between 0 and 4. You never have to identify which creature is filling which role. Nothing will ask for the Cleric in your party, for example. Those abilities will use that number in various ways. Kabira Outrider uses it to calculate its bonus as its ability resolves. Other cards do . . . you know, other things. You'll see.
Some cards have bonuses if you have a "full party." That means all roles are filled—you control a Cleric, a Rogue, a Warrior, and a Wizard. Remember each of those creatures must be different creatures in case a creature has more than one party-relevant creature type.
Coveted Prize
We D&D now.
Yeah, the new duals are pretty sweet for decks that don't want CIPT lands.
What is Raist's beef with Forest/Green? :thinking
:lol
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Mill will always be a thing. ::)
Moar Mill
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/371402051080683522/752565397714370620/image0.jpg)
Moar Mill
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I'm gonna triplesleeve from now on, just to trick someone into paying the kicker when I have 14 cards left
Probably a weird take but I think Mill is less obnoxious than the classic UW control bullshit :lol
Mill will always be the ultimate trap for scrubs
The mythic rare rarity had just started the year before in Shards of Alara. I'd written the article about it and had spent a lot of time laying out a general philosophy of how we were planning to treat the mythic rare rarity. I didn't personally think that Lotus Cobra fit the philosophy I'd laid out. That said, the mythic rare rarity was a new thing and R&D was still trying to let it evolve as we better understood it in the context of new cards and new sets. R&D was split down the middle between the rare camp and the mythic rare camp. For the next couple months, there were many arguments, but in the end, there wasn't a better choice to replace it with, so it stayed a mythic rare. My one suggestion, once it was determined that the rarity shift was not changing, was to switch the name to Lotus Cobra. If it was going to be mythic rare, it at least deserved to have a name that sounded mythic. (Longtime readers know I'm a big believer in "power" words—aka words that excite players because they're associated with powerful cards.)
Ban new product, get excited for old (pre-mending) product!
I never thought I'd say it but green has been too overpowered for too long. Ramp needs to be neutered.
I never thought I'd say it but green has been too overpowered for too long. Ramp needs to be neutered.
I never thought I'd say it but green has been too overpowered for too long. Ramp needs to be neutered.
Raist is crying tears somewhere and he doesn't know why.
I never thought I'd say it but green has been too overpowered for too long. Ramp needs to be neutered.
Raist is crying tears somewhere and he doesn't know why.
Maybe next time you'll listen :hmph
I think that R&D have convinced themselves that they can get several "new" standard environments per expansion by banning stuff and shifting the meta. It seems to be settling into a pattern of:
1. New set releases, shortly after ban problematic cards from previous set while ignoring NEW problematic cards (like last year when they banned Field of the Dead right after Throne of Eldraine but ignored Oko, now with Uro but ignoring Omnath/Cobra)
2. Wait a month or so and ban SOME of the new problematic cards (Oko, probably Omnath in a month or so)
3. Repeat when next set comes out
Also the design philosophy just results in NOT FUN games of magic. If I want to play aggro and put together the best aggro deck in the format, I should be able to be an overwhelming favorite to win if I get an ideal draw. In current standard, If I'm playing RDW or Stompy, I can lose no matter when my opponent just does something insane like casts a turn 4 or 5 Ugin.
I never thought I'd say it but green has been too overpowered for too long. Ramp needs to be neutered.
I had four copies of Escape to the Wilds for my jank satyr deck.
Wizards of the Coast president Chris Cocks announced on Thursday the launch of Universes Beyond, a new series of cards that will feature crossovers with other franchises. They will include the Warhammer 40,000 franchise and character’s from J.R.R. Tolkien’s Middle-earth.
It has come to our attention that the card Crux of Fate from the Strixhaven: School of Mages Mystical Archive may overtly feature Magic: The Gathering fan art and the contracted artist did not receive permission for this incorporation. These actions do not reflect the values of Wizards, and, as a result, we will be suspending future work with Jason Felix until we have been able to bring this matter to successful conclusion.
This set looks so bad, and this isn’t helping. :dead
There's always that one guy that's been playing the same deck since 2017 and he's not about to stop now. :rejoiceStarted playing in 1994, sold everything in 2001 when I moved back to Japan. This online app was on the verge of dragging me back in. I was enjoying it, but man -- it would be difficult to keep that monkey off my back if I fell back into the game.
Segovian Angel (C)
Stalwart Valkyrie (C)
Serra Angel (U)
Youthful Valkyrie (U)
Emancipation Angel (U)
Angel of Vitality (U)
Righteous Valkyrie (R)
Valkyrie Harbinger (R)
Angel of Destiny (M)
Resplendent Angel (M)
Angel of Invention (M)
Angel of Sanctions (M)
Resplendent Marshal (M)
Enduring Angel (M)
Sigardian Savior (M)