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Title: Combat sports (MMA, boxing, etc) thread
Post by: Hollywood on July 30, 2009, 01:39:46 AM
This board needs a combat sports thread so the 3 people here, including myself, can rant on Fedor and UFC.

Apparently this is the offer given, that Fedor won't accept:


Originally Posted by yacobod:
"What M-1 meant by the UFC's"very generous offer"....

By: Carmichael Dave
CBS Radio MMA Host
Twitter.com/Carmichaeldave

So we all know the deal with M-1 and what they are saying about co-promotion. I'm not here to say who's right and wrong in this deal, but I can tell you some of the specifics that were offered to Fedor.....

- The UFC offered Fedor a 6 fight, 30 million dollar contract. That's 5 mil a fight

- The UFC offered Fedor an immediate title shot

- Lesnar/Fedor would be the biggest PPV in MMA history (we assume), and the UFC offered M-1 Global a cut of the PPV on top of Fedor's purse.

- Fedor was free to wear as many M-1 logoed items as he wished.

- The UFC also relented on allowing Fedor to compete in combat sambo."


If Fedor indeed rejects this offer, fuck him. Although I think what Dana should do is buy part of M-1 Global, at least a majority share, and put this to bed. Fedor is quickly becoming the Floyd Mayweather of MMA.
Title: Re: Combat sports (MMA, boxing, etc) thread - PLEASE JOIN UFC FEDOR!
Post by: OptimoPeach on July 30, 2009, 01:45:27 AM
Copy/pasting my GAF shit since I'm lazy:

Quote from: OptimoPeach
Haha, Fedor is too nationalistic to admit to himself that his manager is just another greedy snake. That's a shame. I doubt Coker will be any more malleable in his negotiations in terms of co-promotion, though, so I'm curious to see where Vadim goes from here. I suppose DREAM and Sengoku could put together a pretty decent HW GP.

Quote from: whytemyke
his legacy is hurt just as much as anyones cuz in the prime of his career he ducked the only legit HW competition still out there.
That's a bit of an exaggeration.

Quote from: OptimoPeach
Zuffa could sell shit in a box and make it seem like they're doing you a favor. Just because Affliction was inept at marketing and promoting their fighters and events doesn't mean that the UFC wouldn't be able to hype Fedor and make him a legitimately profitable expenditure. Think of what they could do with all the old PRIDE footage.

They would be totally fucked if he lost his first fight in the Octagon though :lol

Oh and on the last bit of your post: M-1 isn't publicly traded, so that's not going to happen.
Title: Re: Combat sports (MMA, boxing, etc) thread - PLEASE JOIN UFC FEDOR!
Post by: Hollywood on July 30, 2009, 02:01:31 AM
Copy/pasting my GAF shit since I'm lazy:

Quote from: OptimoPeach
Haha, Fedor is too nationalistic to admit to himself that his manager is just another greedy snake. That's a shame. I doubt Coker will be any more malleable in his negotiations in terms of co-promotion, though, so I'm curious to see where Vadim goes from here. I suppose DREAM and Sengoku could put together a pretty decent HW GP.

Quote from: whytemyke
his legacy is hurt just as much as anyones cuz in the prime of his career he ducked the only legit HW competition still out there.
That's a bit of an exaggeration.

Quote from: OptimoPeach
Zuffa could sell shit in a box and make it seem like they're doing you a favor. Just because Affliction was inept at marketing and promoting their fighters and events doesn't mean that the UFC wouldn't be able to hype Fedor and make him a legitimately profitable expenditure. Think of what they could do with all the old PRIDE footage.

They would be totally fucked if he lost his first fight in the Octagon though :lol

Oh and on the last bit of your post: M-1 isn't publicly traded, so that's not going to happen.

I was hoping there were others besides the seedy Russian guys who owned m-1.

The problem is they want co-promotion, as if their promotion has equal value to UFC. Why do they not see that isn't the case? UFC draws a crapload of buys every month, and they think they're entitled to half if they slap their worthless name on the banner?

I say UFC should humor them to a degree and maybe call their bluff. And allow fighters from the WEC (which UFC owns), Strikeforce, King of the Cage, Pancrase, DREAM, and whoever else that wants in on it to 'co promote' a PPV as well and cut the pie in about 8 ways. I'm not saying this is a realistic offer, but throw this in their face so when they balk at it that it proves all they want out of it is to leech off the UFC and they're not in the business of "equality."

The thing about this is, if UFC is crafty with it, they can find a way to turn this in their favor. If M-1 indeed wants to do this, this could be an "Unscheduled" UFC PPV whenever Fedor fights. So they just put on an extra PPV each year to offset this one. Also if this is a co promotion, then M-1 needs to put up half their fighters as well. UFC wouldn't have to waste any major undercard fighters on a Fedor PPV.

I'm not saying any of this will happen, but I would love to see UFC just sorta throw this put there to expose M-1's promoters as hypocrites. They want co-promotion as far as it benefits them. Yet if a really small outfit like King of the Cage or something offered them the same deal, they would laugh at it.
Title: Re: Combat sports (MMA, boxing, etc) thread - PLEASE JOIN UFC FEDOR!
Post by: OptimoPeach on July 30, 2009, 02:09:38 AM
Yeah, it would be great to see them work out some sort of deal, but I think that White & crew are just going to tell M-1 to go fuck themselves, because in the end all this hassle won't even be worth the trouble. Dana has always been right; the UFC doesn't need Fedor (and they definitely don't need M-1 leeching off their profits), and as much as they would like to have such a lauded figure with their organization, they aren't going to bend any further than they already have.
Title: Re: Combat sports (MMA, boxing, etc) thread - PLEASE JOIN UFC FEDOR!
Post by: OptimoPeach on July 30, 2009, 02:20:38 AM
On a sidenote, I'll never question Dana White again :lol
Title: Re: Combat sports (MMA, boxing, etc) thread - PLEASE JOIN UFC FEDOR!
Post by: Hollywood on July 30, 2009, 02:41:48 AM
You're right, Dana has went way out of his way to land this guy. This is the most unprecedented deal in the history of mixed martial arts, and they don't think its enough. what fucking right do these morons have to try to ask for HALF of the profits of the PPV?

When people buy the pay per view they're buying the UFC. Not M-1. Why don't those fucking Russian distinguished mentally-challenged fellows get it? And the sad thing is, their so fucking distinguished mentally-challenged, a deal like this does nothing except HELP them. Fedor will make more in two fights in the UFC than the rest of his career combined I'm guessing. AND on top of it M-1 gets a cut. Holy fucking shit. Really, can Fedor be this stupid to just believe what his handlers are saying?

I really hope this is posturing and they take the deal. It's whats best for the UFC. It's whats best for them. It's whats best for MMA. It's whats best the fans. This shit reminds me of boxing how they're acting, and I really don't want MMA going down that road.
Title: Re: Combat sports (MMA, boxing, etc) thread - PLEASE JOIN UFC FEDOR!
Post by: OptimoPeach on July 30, 2009, 03:14:18 AM
The funny thing is that Fedor has had (monetary) issues with shady managers in the past. I really wish I knew what he was thinking.
Title: Re: Combat sports (MMA, boxing, etc) thread - PLEASE JOIN UFC FEDOR!
Post by: pilonv1 on July 30, 2009, 09:04:32 AM
apparently one of the sticking points is that fedors guys wanted elbows on the ground banned

pretty obvious they have no intention of getting fedor fighting in the UFC, they just want to control him
Title: Re: Combat sports (MMA, boxing, etc) thread - PLEASE JOIN UFC FEDOR!
Post by: OptimoPeach on July 30, 2009, 09:13:53 AM
:lol Seriously? What a ridiculous request.

That's kinda strange though, considering that ground elbows are allowed in combat sambo. Where did you hear that?

edit:
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“The offer which was made by the UFC is not interesting for us,” said Emelianenko. “I completely trust Vadim and I completely trust our team in M-1 Global."

Quotes like this make me wonder if Fedor is even fully aware of what the UFC has offered. Were the specifics about their negotiations revealed in that press conference? Like, did White even have the opportunity to speak to Fedor personally?
Title: Re: Combat sports (MMA, boxing, etc) thread - PLEASE JOIN UFC FEDOR!
Post by: pilonv1 on July 30, 2009, 09:54:00 AM
:lol Seriously? What a ridiculous request.

Meltzer is hinting about it but not saying it completely. Apparently it will come out eventually.

It's not that ridiculous - if your only loss was a cut stoppage you'd want them banned. They were banned in Pride too.

Quote
Quotes like this make me wonder if Fedor is even fully aware of what the UFC has offered. Were the specifics about their negotiations revealed in that press conference? Like, did White even have the opportunity to speak to Fedor personally?

Apparently he wants to fight Randy really badly, but Vladim his manager and his cronies control him. Check around for what his brother Aleks thinks of them.
Title: Re: Combat sports (MMA, boxing, etc) thread - PLEASE JOIN UFC FEDOR!
Post by: OptimoPeach on July 30, 2009, 10:11:56 AM
That's true, his skin is like paper. I really don't understand, though, because from what I remember it's the athletic commissions that determine what is and isn't allowed, and I don't think Zuffa has any say in that. And yeah, I saw that Aleks interview a few days ago. It's been made pretty clear that Vadim is his puppeteer, but I'm still curious about how much he is kept in the dark.
Title: Re: Combat sports (MMA, boxing, etc) thread - PLEASE JOIN UFC FEDOR!
Post by: Himu on July 30, 2009, 10:53:09 AM
Wish they'd show boxing on tv more often. UFC is good and all but it's far less interesting than boxing to me.
Title: Re: Combat sports (MMA, boxing, etc) thread - PLEASE JOIN UFC FEDOR!
Post by: chronovore on July 30, 2009, 10:58:39 AM
apparently one of the sticking points is that fedors guys wanted elbows on the ground banned

pretty obvious they have no intention of getting fedor fighting in the UFC, they just want to control him

"Yes. We can maybe play. First, change rules of de sport. Then we talk."  ???
Title: Re: Combat sports (MMA, boxing, etc) thread - PLEASE JOIN UFC FEDOR!
Post by: OptimoPeach on July 30, 2009, 11:43:12 AM
[youtube=560,345]lVVrNOQtlzY[/youtube]

[youtube=560,345]v3M4VacJ4NU[/youtube]
Title: Re: Combat sports (MMA, boxing, etc) thread - PLEASE JOIN UFC FEDOR!
Post by: Hollywood on July 31, 2009, 01:06:37 AM
From a thread over on Sherdog:

M-1 is AWESOME!!! Vadim Outlines M-1's Future Business Plans

M-1 and Marvel Films present: Iron Man 2

M-1 and Arum present: Pacquiao versus Mayweather

M-1 and NFL present: NFL Superbowl 2010

M-1 and 19 Entertainment present: American Idol 2010 Season

M-1 and NASA present: Mars expedition


 :lol :lol
Title: Re: Combat sports (MMA, boxing, etc) thread - PLEASE JOIN UFC FEDOR!
Post by: Hollywood on July 31, 2009, 01:08:38 AM
Wish they'd show boxing on tv more often. UFC is good and all but it's far less interesting than boxing to me.

Uh, boxing is on every Friday night on ESPN.
Title: Re: Combat sports (MMA, boxing, etc) thread - PLEASE JOIN UFC FEDOR!
Post by: chronovore on July 31, 2009, 01:14:00 AM
From a thread over on Sherdog:

M-1 is AWESOME!!! Vadim Outlines M-1's Future Business Plans

M-1 and Marvel Films present: Iron Man 2

M-1 and Arum present: Pacquiao versus Mayweather

M-1 and NFL present: NFL Superbowl 2010

M-1 and 19 Entertainment present: American Idol 2010 Season

M-1 and NASA present: Mars expedition


 :lol :lol


Flawless victory.
Title: Re: Combat sports (MMA, boxing, etc) thread - PLEASE JOIN UFC FEDOR!
Post by: pilonv1 on August 01, 2009, 02:33:46 AM
From a thread over on Sherdog:

M-1 is AWESOME!!! Vadim Outlines M-1's Future Business Plans

M-1 and Marvel Films present: Iron Man 2

M-1 and Arum present: Pacquiao versus Mayweather

M-1 and NFL present: NFL Superbowl 2010

M-1 and 19 Entertainment present: American Idol 2010 Season

M-1 and NASA present: Mars expedition


 :lol :lol


first entertaining thing to come out of sherdog ever
Title: Re: Combat sports (MMA, boxing, etc) thread - PLEASE JOIN UFC FEDOR!
Post by: Hollywood on August 01, 2009, 03:40:37 AM
Wow Dana is PISSED.  :lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6X1TdAp_hs&feature=player_embedded


He just straight up says he did everything he can to get him, and is over it. I agree too. Fuck Fedor. I hope he joins another organization that Dana buries too, since he's been such a fucking distinguished mentally-challenged fellow.
Title: Re: Combat sports (MMA, boxing, etc) thread - PLEASE JOIN UFC FEDOR!
Post by: etiolate on August 01, 2009, 04:41:01 AM
My question is how did Affliction get Fedor to roll with them, but Fedor's people turned down UFC.

It is making Fedor look scared.
Title: Re: Combat sports (MMA, boxing, etc) thread - PLEASE JOIN UFC FEDOR!
Post by: chronovore on August 01, 2009, 11:47:59 PM
I don't think Fedor's scared, but his management may be. Or they're just buying into some weird little world where they're in charge of everything, like that "M-1 and NASA presents: MARS EXPEDITION" comment above. Fedor is a great fighter. He's really impressive. And after watching Lesnar dismantle my two most respected fighters, Couture and Mir, I don't think Fedor's got more than a 60% chance of beating Lesnar. His management may realize that as well, but they should be capitalizing on making the most out of the limited environment in which they can choose.

What options are there now? Japan?
Title: Re: Combat sports (MMA, boxing, etc) thread - PLEASE JOIN UFC FEDOR!
Post by: Boogie on August 01, 2009, 11:50:43 PM
My question is how did Affliction get Fedor to roll with them, but Fedor's people turned down UFC.

It is making Fedor look scared.

Because Affliction needed Fedor, and so Affliction was willing to bend over for M-1.  And now Affliction is dead.

UFC, on the other hand, does not need Fedor, and will not bend over for Finkelstein.

And now Finkie is looking for someone else who will bend over for M-1.
Title: Re: Combat sports (MMA, boxing, etc) thread - PLEASE JOIN UFC FEDOR!
Post by: Hollywood on August 02, 2009, 03:16:55 AM
Fedor talking about Lesnar:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DK_rNzb0xsY&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.sherdog.net%2Fforums%2Ff2%2Ffedor-talks-lesnar-1025132%2F&feature=player_embedded

 :lol
Title: Re: Combat sports (MMA, boxing, etc) thread - PLEASE JOIN UFC FEDOR!
Post by: Phoenix Dark on August 02, 2009, 04:03:36 AM
Don't know much of anything about mma. Looked up Brock Lesnar...holy shit he was in the WWE, now he's dominating the UFC?
Title: Re: Combat sports (MMA, boxing, etc) thread - PLEASE JOIN UFC FEDOR!
Post by: chronovore on August 02, 2009, 11:38:11 AM
Don't know much of anything about mma. Looked up Brock Lesnar...holy shit he was in the WWE, now he's dominating the UFC?

Yeah, it's funny. People focus on his WWE run, and then draw a parallel to UFC (OMGz0r! It's FAKE!) without recognizing that he was a real wrestling champion before that, and even played some pro football. He's a real athlete, very competitive, and every inch the jockstrap he appears to be according to WWE's JR and his post-victory antics (dojo honor am cry for poor Mir). He's made himself out to be the jerk, and everyone's waiting to see someone take him out; he's a great heel. I lost a hunnerd bux hoping to see Mir make him tap again last time. :japancry
Title: Re: Combat sports (MMA, boxing, etc) thread - PLEASE JOIN UFC FEDOR!
Post by: Eel O'Brian on August 02, 2009, 11:55:41 AM
none of this really changes the fact that dana white is the scummiest of scum, though
Title: Re: Combat sports (MMA, boxing, etc) thread - PLEASE JOIN UFC FEDOR!
Post by: chronovore on August 02, 2009, 12:03:24 PM
In what way?
Title: Re: Combat sports (MMA, boxing, etc) thread - PLEASE JOIN UFC FEDOR!
Post by: Eel O'Brian on August 02, 2009, 12:15:30 PM
indentured servitude of his fighters
Title: Re: Combat sports (MMA, boxing, etc) thread - PLEASE JOIN UFC FEDOR!
Post by: chronovore on August 03, 2009, 02:58:19 AM
You mean that he asks them to sign exclusive contracts while they fight in the UFC, or is it the lifelong image rights for videogames?
Title: Re: Combat sports (MMA, boxing, etc) thread - PLEASE JOIN UFC FEDOR!
Post by: Hollywood on August 03, 2009, 03:05:34 AM
No more under contract than a player in other professional sports like MLB, NFL, or anything else.

http://sports.yahoo.com/mma/news?slug=ki-fedorufc073109&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

Good article placing the blame where it needs to be in this Fedor situation. This quote kind of disturbs me:

Finkelchtein released a statement on Friday before the UFC news conference in which he said, in part, “All we are asking is that there is give-and-take in the negotiations and that they are not one-sided.”


It sounds like that UFC just put it all out on the table and made a good deal, and this douchebag thought 'hmm maybe I can milk a little more out of this, since they offered this great deal right off the bat, maybe I can get some more out of it.' It's stupid. Since he saw UFC's offer as a starting point instead of them just trying to make the best offer they could, the douchebag wanted to try to fuck them over. What else is new.

Let the asshole rot in Strikeforce or somewhere else. And BTW, Strikeforce doesn't exactly have money to throw around like Affliction, or near as much as what UFC offered. Hopefully when the M-1 guys and Fedor see whats out there isn't even as much as Affliction, that they come back to the table with their tail between the legs and take the deal.
Title: Re: Combat sports (MMA, boxing, etc) thread - PLEASE JOIN UFC FEDOR!
Post by: chronovore on August 03, 2009, 04:24:00 AM
I suspect Fedor will fight in Japan, demand equal drug testing (apparently non-mandatory here), and scrap with Barnett as the article suggests. In the west, he will continue being unknown outside of MMA fans, and he'll likely laugh all the way to the bank as he continues his win streak.

I wonder if he's even curious how he'd fare against Lesnar, or if he just likes winning more than competing.
Title: Re: Combat sports (MMA, boxing, etc) thread - PLEASE JOIN UFC FEDOR!
Post by: Prost on August 03, 2009, 05:44:08 AM
[youtube=560,345]_n6Z_2CgcuY[/youtube]
Title: Re: Combat sports (MMA, boxing, etc) thread - PLEASE JOIN UFC FEDOR!
Post by: OptimoPeach on August 03, 2009, 01:58:42 PM
http://www.sherdog.com/news/news/fedor-signs-with-strikeforce-18883

At least he's not just going back to Japan :-\
Title: Re: Combat sports (MMA, boxing, etc) thread - PLEASE JOIN UFC FEDOR!
Post by: Hollywood on August 03, 2009, 05:35:17 PM

"Fedor is a f---ing joke," UFC President Dana White responded Monday after learning that Emelianenko had signed with Strikeforce. “He turns down a huge deal and the opportunity to face the best in the world to fight nobodies for no money!"

 :lol
Title: Re: Combat sports (MMA, boxing, etc) thread - PLEASE JOIN UFC FEDOR!
Post by: pilonv1 on August 03, 2009, 10:49:42 PM
fedor* is officially irrelavent in todays mma. fuck him
Title: Re: Combat sports (MMA, boxing, etc) thread - PLEASE JOIN UFC FEDOR!
Post by: Flannel Boy on August 03, 2009, 10:52:13 PM
The grapes are sour. I didn't want to eat them anyway.

Title: Re: Combat sports (MMA, boxing, etc) thread - PLEASE JOIN UFC FEDOR!
Post by: Eel O'Brian on August 03, 2009, 11:00:49 PM
one of these days he's gonna talk shit about the wrong guy and they're going to cripple him

can't wait to see the youtube after that
Title: Re: Combat sports (MMA, boxing, etc) thread - PLEASE JOIN UFC FEDOR!
Post by: Hollywood on August 03, 2009, 11:23:58 PM
one of these days he's gonna talk shit about the wrong guy and they're going to cripple him

can't wait to see the youtube after that


Dana speaks the truth.
Title: Re: Combat sports (MMA, boxing, etc) thread - PLEASE JOIN UFC FEDOR!
Post by: pilonv1 on August 03, 2009, 11:46:18 PM
Dana lives in Vegas and knows people. I think he's fine.

And yes everything out of his mouth is 100% truth
Title: Re: Combat sports (MMA, boxing, etc) thread - PLEASE JOIN UFC FEDOR!
Post by: Eel O'Brian on August 04, 2009, 01:12:33 AM
he's a scumbag, a week ago you couldn't pry his lips off fedor's dick with a crowbar, and now all of a sudden fedor's a joke

crybaby throws another public tantrum because he doesn't get what he wants

fuck him
Title: Re: Combat sports (MMA, boxing, etc) thread - PLEASE JOIN UFC FEDOR!
Post by: Eel O'Brian on August 04, 2009, 01:16:37 AM
and every hypocrite pissing on fedor now will have their eyes glued to a torrent or stream of his next fight, like a person who talks shit about gays and then goes home to jerk it to cheeseburger porn

Title: Re: Combat sports (MMA, boxing, etc) thread - PLEASE JOIN UFC FEDOR!
Post by: Phoenix Dark on August 04, 2009, 01:23:58 AM
wut
Title: Re: Combat sports (MMA, boxing, etc) thread - PLEASE JOIN UFC FEDOR!
Post by: pilonv1 on August 04, 2009, 01:25:17 AM
eel has snapped

ill watch fedors* next fight. doesnt mean i think he's great
Title: Re: Combat sports (MMA, boxing, etc) thread - PLEASE JOIN UFC FEDOR!
Post by: Eel O'Brian on August 04, 2009, 01:26:50 AM
no snap here, just calling out the hypocrisy

he's irrelevant, he's a joke, but dude did you catch that last bout
Title: Re: Combat sports (MMA, boxing, etc) thread - PLEASE JOIN UFC FEDOR!
Post by: OptimoPeach on August 04, 2009, 01:40:37 AM
I'll be riding his dick until the end, even if he is a brainwashed dope.

But I can understand people being a little bitter.
Title: Re: Combat sports (MMA, boxing, etc) thread - PLEASE JOIN UFC FEDOR!
Post by: Hollywood on August 07, 2009, 03:03:48 AM
UFC in a couple days. Also Gina returns to fighting next week.  :D

(http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii205/on205th/on205th-1/ginatowel2.gif)

Tig ole bitties!
Title: Re: Combat sports (MMA, boxing, etc) thread - PLEASE JOIN UFC FEDOR!
Post by: chronovore on August 08, 2009, 05:01:18 PM
Yum@Gina.

I don't have any idea what Strikeforce paid to get Fedor in, but the whole franchise is propped up by its Showtime contract, isn't it? Showtime has money but like any network there's the even chance that the contract would not be renewed or the show canceled with any change of exec. brass, leaving Strikeforce in the lurch.

More than that, I think UFC is looking at one more fight with Couture, and then his contract's up, right? He likely has a limited amount of no-compete time on his contract (though dismissing that could have been part of the terms of his kiss-and-make-up with UFC). Randy's not said anything about post-UFC yet (no surprise there), but even if a Couture/Fedor match is the goal here, Strikeforce has to realize that one good fight does not make a franchise.
Title: Re: Combat sports (MMA, boxing, etc) thread - PLEASE JOIN UFC FEDOR!
Post by: OptimoPeach on August 09, 2009, 12:54:16 AM
ANDERSON FUCKING SILVA HOLY SHIT ASLDKFJ;DF
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Post by: OptimoPeach on August 09, 2009, 12:59:40 AM
He fucking knocked him out by the time I got done packing a bowl. FUCK
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Post by: E-DuB on August 09, 2009, 01:05:17 AM
ANDERSON FUCKING SILVA HOLY SHIT ASLDKFJ;DF
Yeah I said holy God damn too. And I laughed pretty hard when Forrest ran the hell out of there afterward.
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Post by: E-DuB on August 09, 2009, 01:08:00 AM
Also found this on GAF like four minutes after the fight finished....just wow...first for the KO and then for getting the GIF so quickly
(http://i30.tinypic.com/s5ixp0.gif)
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Post by: OptimoPeach on August 09, 2009, 01:13:45 AM
Yeah, I'm really in disbelief that he ran out like that :lol omfg

I hope Penn/Florian can measure up. BJ looks like he's in amazing shape.
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Post by: OptimoPeach on August 09, 2009, 01:42:39 AM
Welp, BJ is still the king of LW. I can't say I'm surprised.
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Post by: Hollywood on August 09, 2009, 02:19:19 AM
I missed the PPV, but apparently I didn't miss much. Anderson and BJ dominated as expected, and the undercard sounded like shit. One thing I hate about the UFC though is it will probably take another 4 months to see Silva and BJ back in the octagon. With Anderson at least, sounds like he didn't even break a sweat. We shouldn't have to wait that fucking long.
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Post by: BlackMage on August 09, 2009, 02:21:55 AM
I missed the PPV, but apparently I didn't miss much. Anderson and BJ dominated as expected, and the undercard sounded like shit. One thing I hate about the UFC though is it will probably take another 4 months to see Silva and BJ back in the octagon. With Anderson at least, sounds like he didn't even break a sweat. We shouldn't have to wait that fucking long.

there's just so many fighters to nowadays. The spotlight needs to be shared!
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Post by: Hollywood on August 09, 2009, 02:27:46 AM
I missed the PPV, but apparently I didn't miss much. Anderson and BJ dominated as expected, and the undercard sounded like shit. One thing I hate about the UFC though is it will probably take another 4 months to see Silva and BJ back in the octagon. With Anderson at least, sounds like he didn't even break a sweat. We shouldn't have to wait that fucking long.

there's just so many fighters to nowadays. The spotlight needs to be shared!

Which I've thought about as well. The undercard often falls to the background, and UFC needs to expand its SpikeTV offering. Boxing has Friday Night Fights every Friday night, why can't UFC have something similar? Not even a week, just every month would be nice, in addition to the PPV's and Ultimate reality show. It just sucks to think Anderson's next fight will likely be against Henderson, who he dominated the last time they faced each other, then possibly against Machida after that. Meaning, we could be waiting until next summer to see a real fight we want to see Silva in. He needs to either have GSP move up in weight and face him, or he needs to stay LHW and take on Machida.

It sucks to think that a Leites snoozefest where the guy ran like a bitch the whole fight, and a 1:30 destruction are the only two Silva fights this year. This guy is supposedly the P4P best fighter in the world and all he's handed is chumps with a multiple month wait until the next fight. Shit.
Title: Re: Combat sports (MMA, boxing, etc) thread - PLEASE JOIN UFC FEDOR!
Post by: Hollywood on August 09, 2009, 03:08:39 AM
Also, reading Sherdog makes my head hurt. So many suggesting UFC was fixed tonight. What fucking distinguished mentally-challenged fellows.
Title: Re: Combat sports (MMA, boxing, etc) thread - PLEASE JOIN UFC FEDOR!
Post by: Hollywood on August 09, 2009, 04:19:02 PM
This is why UFC events shouldn't be in Philly  :lol

[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rytx0ZIqYdQ[/youtube]

I like the guy yelling "KICK HIS ASS SEA BASS!"
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Post by: chronovore on August 14, 2009, 07:14:12 PM
UFC 101 - my most epic fail in my MMA hobby to-date: I just got back from a trip to Hawaii, and was even on The Big Island on the night of the fight. I was Kona-side, not Hilo, but the whole island is huge into MMA and of course everyone's rooting for BJ. I'm there with family who have converged from all over the USA, but I warn them that I'm going to borrow my bro-in-law, head for a sports bar, and be gone for the duration of the event.

The morning after we arrive, I find a sports bar, it's got the flyers for a viewing event in the windows. US$10 cover, no problem, lots of Kona Brewing Company on tap -- this looks like it'll be heaven. I flag a waitress - "Hey, what time does the UFC thing start today? When should I show up?"

"It was last night. It was Saturday night" -- yeah, and today being Sunday, it appears I missed the boat. Holy. Fucking. Shit.
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Post by: BlackMage on August 14, 2009, 08:39:26 PM
ginnnaaaaaa unf unf  :hump
(http://i28.tinypic.com/2qlqvpx.jpg)
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Post by: Human Snorenado on August 14, 2009, 08:43:46 PM
 :o :hump :o
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Post by: OptimoPeach on August 14, 2009, 09:51:38 PM
UFC 101 - my most epic fail in my MMA hobby to-date: I just got back from a trip to Hawaii, and was even on The Big Island on the night of the fight. I was Kona-side, not Hilo, but the whole island is huge into MMA and of course everyone's rooting for BJ. I'm there with family who have converged from all over the USA, but I warn them that I'm going to borrow my bro-in-law, head for a sports bar, and be gone for the duration of the event.

The morning after we arrive, I find a sports bar, it's got the flyers for a viewing event in the windows. US$10 cover, no problem, lots of Kona Brewing Company on tap -- this looks like it'll be heaven. I flag a waitress - "Hey, what time does the UFC thing start today? When should I show up?"

"It was last night. It was Saturday night" -- yeah, and today being Sunday, it appears I missed the boat. Holy. Fucking. Shit.
:lol I'm sorry
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Post by: chronovore on August 15, 2009, 02:56:10 AM
UFC 101 - my most epic fail in my MMA hobby to-date: I just got back from a trip to Hawaii, and was even on The Big Island on the night of the fight. I was Kona-side, not Hilo, but the whole island is huge into MMA and of course everyone's rooting for BJ. I'm there with family who have converged from all over the USA, but I warn them that I'm going to borrow my bro-in-law, head for a sports bar, and be gone for the duration of the event.

The morning after we arrive, I find a sports bar, it's got the flyers for a viewing event in the windows. US$10 cover, no problem, lots of Kona Brewing Company on tap -- this looks like it'll be heaven. I flag a waitress - "Hey, what time does the UFC thing start today? When should I show up?"

"It was last night. It was Saturday night" -- yeah, and today being Sunday, it appears I missed the boat. Holy. Fucking. Shit.
:lol I'm sorry

Yeah, pretty much epic suckitude. The rest of the vacation was tremendously good, digestive failure, jetlag, lava injuries and all, but this incident really did hurt. Seriously. In HAWAII, near-ish Hilo, while their homeboy defends his championship? Go on, get out. "Yesterday..."   :-\  :'(
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Post by: Phoenix Dark on August 15, 2009, 04:00:13 AM
ginnnaaaaaa unf unf  :hump
(http://i28.tinypic.com/2qlqvpx.jpg)

What's wrong with her big breasts, they look unnatural. She needs to lose 20 pounds

-fistfullofmetal
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Post by: chronovore on August 15, 2009, 04:54:59 AM
Well, far be it from me to cast dispersions on such lovely items, but didn't she say something like, "Yeah, they're mine. I paid for them! Hahahah!" in an interview?
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Post by: BamYouHaveAids on August 15, 2009, 05:31:21 AM
(http://www.cdn.sherdog.com/_images/pictures/20090814052503_02carano.JPG)
(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2566/3821364351_0fbbb4c2ff_o.jpg)


 :omg :omg :omg
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Post by: CajoleJuice on August 16, 2009, 12:56:42 AM
She's gonna get her pretty face ruined by the cheeseburger. :(
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Post by: fistfulofmetal on August 16, 2009, 01:29:05 AM
gina is too pretty for this.
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Post by: CajoleJuice on August 16, 2009, 01:29:33 AM
she got destroyed :(
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Post by: fistfulofmetal on August 16, 2009, 01:30:41 AM
at least she looked good. doesn't she always have trouble making weight? she looked pretty slimmed down. she looked fantastic.
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Post by: CajoleJuice on August 16, 2009, 01:31:26 AM
Yeah, she definitely did. She had no chance versus Mickey Rourke.
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Post by: Hollywood on August 16, 2009, 02:18:35 AM
Too bad Gina lost. I watched UFC 100 replay tonight though, again rather than getting a feed. Wow, after seeing it again it boggles the mind how stupid Mir is. All the Lesnar ass kissing, but Mir had to make two of the stupidest moves I've ever seen. A jumping knee knowing he was going to fall on his back versus a guys who's only strength is to get on top of you and beat the shit out of you. Then after he's on the ground he turns his BACK to him. Man this fight just gets stupider the more I look at it. Frank Mir, you're a fucking distinguished mentally-challenged fellow.

In other news. Roy Jones Jr is still fighting and beat bum Jeff Lacy to retain some title I have barely heard of. It's like more obscure than any of the 4 or 5 main recognized titles. Just retire dude.
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Post by: chronovore on August 16, 2009, 10:38:27 AM
Yeah, she definitely did. She had no chance versus Mickey Rourke.

:rofl

Neither did this reporter:
[youtube=560,345] BVhEbTIExrk[/youtube]
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Post by: Hollywood on August 18, 2009, 04:12:01 AM
Yeah, she definitely did. She had no chance versus Mickey Rourke.

:rofl

Neither did this reporter:
[youtube=560,345] BVhEbTIExrk[/youtube]

I think that was staged.
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Post by: OptimoPeach on August 18, 2009, 04:30:16 AM
I wonder how long before Cyborg gets popped for roids
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Post by: chronovore on August 18, 2009, 05:30:12 AM
Or for being a guy.

But seriously, that reporter looks like he really goes out. I think Cyborg held it longer than he expected, or he didn't know what was coming. That's a typical "all the way out" response.
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Post by: Ellrick on August 18, 2009, 04:37:49 PM
Holy shit @ Gegard Mousasi making Babalu look like a fuxxing scrub, and after making Mark Hunt look like a scrub only 2 months ago. I hope he only learns MMA from fedor, and not how to manage his career though, so he can wind up in the UFC someday.
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Post by: etiolate on August 20, 2009, 02:36:54 AM
I'm new to MMA

Why do WEC fights have less KOs and submissions? Most of the WEC fights I see go all five rounds. When I watch UFC, it rarely goes to the third round.
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Post by: OptimoPeach on August 20, 2009, 05:41:56 AM
Well for starters, only championship bouts go 5 rounds. You've probably been catching a lot of the most recent title fights on Versus, and I think those (other than the Torres fight a few weeks ago) just happened to be decisions.

The WEC divisions are also all really light. I think they cover Flyweight to Lightweight (125-155), while the UFC goes from Lightweight to Heavyweight (155-265). When it first started up the WEC had heavier weight classes and it was sort of like a training ground for fighters that weren't yet UFC ready, but they recently merged all the higher weight classes with the UFC.

Anyway, the lighter guys don't throw as much power, so it's only natural that you aren't going to see as many 1 hit KOs, but fighters still get TKOd. I don't really think there's that big of a difference in the finishing rate between the UFC and the WEC. You probably just happened to catch some really shitty WEC fights.

Holy shit @ Gegard Mousasi making Babalu look like a fuxxing scrub, and after making Mark Hunt look like a scrub only 2 months ago. I hope he only learns MMA from fedor, and not how to manage his career though, so he can wind up in the UFC someday.

It's already come out that his manager apparently bullshitted him about what the UFC was offering before he went with Strikeforce, so yeah.

Quote
"I just touched base with Joe Silva and he explained this is basically what happened regarding Mousasi:"

"Mousasi called him Saturday because he suspected he had been lied to by his manager, Appy Echteld, regarding an offer of $40,000/$40,000 from the UFC and then encouraged to accept an offer from Strikeforce. According to what Mousasi shared, that amount was less than half of the purse agreement he had with Affliction but he trusted his manager and signed with Strikeforce. The UFC would have honored the Affliction deal of $125,000 purse plus win bonus had Mousasi signed with them."

"Contrary to the claim made today by M-1 that Mousasi was on the phone during negotiations with Joe Silva for his services, Joe adamantly denies that is true. Had that been the case, there would have been no reason for Mousasi to call Joe to question Echteld’s claim of a $40,000/$40,000 offer from the UFC."
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Post by: Hollywood on August 20, 2009, 08:49:20 PM
LESNAR YOU'RE NEXT!

In an interview this morning, UFC president Dana White confirmed that Brock Lesnar will face Steve Carwin at UFC 106 in November:

"Brock is ready to go now and wants to fight. Carwin makes the most sense. He's 11-0 and he's been kicking the shit out of everybody. Gonzaga destroyed Cro Cop and he (Carwin) totally destroyed Gonzaga. Plus, he hates Brock Lesnar. It's going to be two huge guys going at it. He's got the power to knock anybody out and he's got great wrestling, too. He's one of the guys that has the size to match up with Brock, too."
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Post by: OptimoPeach on August 20, 2009, 09:08:41 PM
It's going to be two huge guys going at it.
I can almost see the dollar signs in his eyes :lol

Who knows, maybe Carwin will get lucky, but I don't see him doing much better than Mir. I do like this better than Velasquez at least
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Post by: BlackMage on August 20, 2009, 09:12:00 PM
plus cane is fighting ben rothwell which will be a good matchup.
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Post by: Boogie on August 21, 2009, 12:09:48 AM
It's going to be two huge guys going at it.
I can almost see the dollar signs in his eyes :lol

Who knows, maybe Carwin will get lucky, but I don't see him doing much better than Mir. I do like this better than Velasquez at least

Oh, there's little doubt in my mind Carwin will do better than Mir, simply due to style.

Carwin and Lesnar are almost carbon copies of each other.  Both are huge, massive wrestlers with heavy hands.  Carwin isn't going to flop to his back and concede the takedown like Mir.  This fight is going to be a battle of wrestling and slugging.  Brock will definitely have a strength and wrestling advantage.  Will it be enough to take Carwin down?  I'm not so sure, especially when Couture pretty much drew even with Brock in the wrestling aspect of their fight.  And who will have the striking/heavy hands advantage?  That's the question in my mind.

Carwin is a perfect 11-0, with no fights going to decision.  He clearly has heavy hands, and so does Brock.  If this one ends in the first round, it will be because of a big overhand right, not because someone was taken down and pounded on, imo.


edit:  Agreed with Blackmage.  Losing the Cain/Carwin fight is completely made up by seeing Carwin take on Brock, and Cain against Rothwell.  Rothwell will be a very good test for Cain.
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Post by: OptimoPeach on August 21, 2009, 12:22:09 AM
I duno. I'm not all that familiar with Carwin's wrestling credentials, so maybe I'm underestimating him, but is he really comparable to Couture? I mean, yeah, I was surprised that Lesnar had as much trouble taking and keeping Randy down as he did, but I was mostly just inclined to give credit to Randy for being a beast.  I think Carwin will take it if they keep it on the feet, but I'm still expecting Lesnar to pound him out eventually.

And yeah, the Rothwell/Cain match-up is sweet. Is that going to be on the same card?
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Post by: chronovore on August 21, 2009, 04:35:30 AM
Sweet: looks like the UFC is going to broadcast the undercard for free, prior to airing the pay-per-view.
http://punch.freedomblogging.com/2009/08/20/ufc-103-undercard-to-be-telvised-on-spike-tv/6361/

Hope it works out; this could further increase awareness of MMA.
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Post by: BamYouHaveAids on August 21, 2009, 04:05:41 PM
I duno. I'm not all that familiar with Carwin's wrestling credentials, so maybe I'm underestimating him, but is he really comparable to Couture? I mean, yeah, I was surprised that Lesnar had as much trouble taking and keeping Randy down as he did, but I was mostly just inclined to give credit to Randy for being a beast.  I think Carwin will take it if they keep it on the feet, but I'm still expecting Lesnar to pound him out eventually.

And yeah, the Rothwell/Cain match-up is sweet. Is that going to be on the same card?
Gonzanga took him down. I think Carwin's only chance is to land a shot before Lesnar can shoot because I don't think his wrestling even approaches Lesnar's or Couture's and if he gets taken down I see him getting controlled and dominated similar to Herring.
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Post by: Hollywood on August 21, 2009, 05:44:35 PM
Sweet: looks like the UFC is going to broadcast the undercard for free, prior to airing the pay-per-view.
http://punch.freedomblogging.com/2009/08/20/ufc-103-undercard-to-be-telvised-on-spike-tv/6361/

Hope it works out; this could further increase awareness of MMA.

Really smart move, but I'm really kind of disappointed that UFC didn't put together a really big card to go really head to head with boxing. It's an okay card:


Rich Franklin (No. 7 LHW) vs. Vitor Belfort (No. 8 MW)
Junior dos Santos vs. Mirko "Cro Cop" Filipovic
Martin Kampmann (No. 5 WW) vs. Mike Swick (No. 9 WW)
Josh Koscheck (No. 7 WW) vs. Frank Trigg


But feels more like a lot of guys who have lost a lot of name value over the years. Franklin feels like an also ran, Belfort fought nobodies in Strikeforce, Cro Cop hasn't been anything in UFC. Feels more like a Fight Night card, which is actually 3 days earlier in the week. Really wish UFC put together a stacked card with a title fight or two to really take it to boxing. It's a golden opportunity to take a chunk out of them.
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Post by: chronovore on August 23, 2009, 08:53:50 AM
If it were really about names, a stacked undercard would be stellar, but what I think they're trying to do is woo the boxing audience who doesn't yet know about MMA. If that assumption is correct, it's more about the action than the reputation, and this undercard will likely deliver.
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Post by: pilonv1 on August 23, 2009, 09:26:45 AM
i know im late but loul @ gina getting destroyed
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Post by: E-DuB on August 27, 2009, 12:41:46 AM
FightLine.com is reporting that UFC star Quinton ‘Rampage’ Jackson will be playing the role of B.A. Baracus, made famous by Mr. T, in a remake of The A-Team scheduled to be filmed next year.

Yeah I laughed. He has to have a scene where he's dry humping something though :hump
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Post by: OptimoPeach on August 27, 2009, 01:09:24 AM
He was so awful in Midnight Meat Train. I'll be looking forward to this one.

Oh, and for whoever cares, Fedor/Rogers is confirmed :-\
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Post by: Phoenix Dark on August 27, 2009, 02:06:05 AM
any videos of the gina fight?  :'(
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Post by: pilonv1 on August 27, 2009, 02:18:25 AM
Oh, and for whoever cares, Fedor/Rogers is confirmed :-\

Hope Rogers ko's him early. Then Fedor* can go away with Gina and I never hear of them again
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Post by: OptimoPeach on August 27, 2009, 03:24:14 AM
Oh, and for whoever cares, Fedor/Rogers is confirmed :-\

Hope Rogers ko's him early. Then Fedor* can go away with Gina and I never hear of them again
Don't get your hopes up, Rogers was already looking shaken in the press conference

any videos of the gina fight?  :'(
http://www.worldofcombat.net/index.php?id=883&z=manprev
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Post by: chronovore on August 27, 2009, 04:17:20 AM
Huh? It looks like the bell rang, the ref steps in to stop Cyborg as an end-of-round move, and Cyborg takes that as a win. Was everyone just so afraid to tell her that they just gave her the win?

Yeah, I think it would have ended soon in Round 2: Carano seemed ineffectively defensive the entire first round... but the bell's the bell, what?
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Post by: OptimoPeach on August 27, 2009, 12:55:39 PM
They showed a slow-mo replay and it looked like the ref went to pull her off like a nanosecond before the bell rang. Besides that, Gina didn't seem to upset about it, so whatever lol.
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Post by: OptimoPeach on August 27, 2009, 03:01:32 PM
(http://i25.tinypic.com/2uqbr40.jpg)
:duh :duh :duh
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Post by: chronovore on August 29, 2009, 12:02:48 PM
They showed a slow-mo replay and it looked like the ref went to pull her off like a nanosecond before the bell rang. Besides that, Gina didn't seem to upset about it, so whatever lol.

Yeah, that's pretty much how I resolved it in my head as well. Gina wasn't up and saying "OMG NO! I was just about to spring into action!"

I'm still waiting for the ruling to be overturned when Cyborg tests positive for penis.
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Post by: Hollywood on August 29, 2009, 11:51:38 PM
HOLY shit Maia just got fucked up!
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Post by: OptimoPeach on August 29, 2009, 11:54:03 PM
:lol So much for his "improved striking". That was brutal
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Post by: OptimoPeach on August 30, 2009, 12:01:37 AM
:rofl Leben

Rosholt looks a little better since the last time I saw him. He used to block punches with his face in the WEC
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Post by: Hollywood on August 30, 2009, 12:13:59 AM
Damn the ref completely missed that tapout, fucking distinguished mentally-challenged fellow.
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Post by: OptimoPeach on August 30, 2009, 12:18:16 AM
I know. I really don't get how they fuck up as frequently as they do.
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Post by: OptimoPeach on August 30, 2009, 12:27:48 AM
I hate Thiago Silva's face
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Post by: OptimoPeach on August 30, 2009, 12:36:56 AM
Nighty night, Jardine. No chin :(
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Post by: OptimoPeach on August 30, 2009, 12:51:36 AM
:lol :lol :lol Rogan was just staring off into space. That guy is so high
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Post by: Hollywood on August 30, 2009, 12:52:07 AM
A lot of ownage tonight. Guy gets put to sleep the the point he's twitching, quickest KO in UFC with 7 seconds, someone get fucked up coming out with a knee injury, and Marquardy has one of the best KO's I've ever seen. Screw the GAFags bitching about this card. GO COUTURE.
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Post by: OptimoPeach on August 30, 2009, 12:56:37 AM
Yeah, I was hoping the Jardine/Silva and Maia/Marquardt fights were going to be a little more competitive, but whatever. I didn't really have high expectations for this card, so I'm happy.

I have a feeling Randy is going to pound Nogueira through the mat, though.
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Post by: OptimoPeach on August 30, 2009, 01:09:47 AM
THAT IS WHY HE IS CAPTAIN AMERICA :rofl :rofl :rofl

edit: Holy shit, this is a war
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Post by: OptimoPeach on August 30, 2009, 01:26:24 AM
Well, Nogueira clearly won that. Glad to see that he's "back", but it sucks that it came at the price of another loss for Randy
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Post by: Hollywood on August 30, 2009, 01:28:10 AM
Lame. Nog won it for sure, but if this was 5 rounds, this would have possibly been one of those big fights Couture could have maybe pulled out. I think all UFC main events should be 5 rounds, don't think title fights should be the only ones.
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Post by: OptimoPeach on August 30, 2009, 01:32:37 AM
I totally forgot it wasn't going to be 5 rounds until Goldberg said that. I'm not sure if Randy would have won that. He was getting tagged on the feet and was repeatedly swept on the ground. If anything I think Nogueira would have gotten a sub eventually.

But that was still an awesome fight, maybe the best of the year (that I can remember at least).
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Post by: Hollywood on August 30, 2009, 01:43:05 AM
Nog and Carwin should be a good fight  ;)
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Post by: OptimoPeach on August 30, 2009, 04:20:47 AM
Heh. I don't see Carwin making it past Lesnar, but I am glad that suddenly Brock's reign as champ isn't so definite.
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Post by: pilonv1 on August 30, 2009, 08:29:32 PM
So sick of Coutures boring fights. Big Nog is awesome
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Post by: OptimoPeach on August 30, 2009, 08:36:02 PM
So sick of Brandon Vera's boring fights
Fixed
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Post by: Hollywood on September 20, 2009, 03:35:22 AM
Didn't even bother watching boxing OR UFC tonight. I kinda figured they both were going to suck, and it didn't disappoint.
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Post by: OptimoPeach on September 20, 2009, 03:47:37 AM
103 was awesome!

Floyd won via decision, big surprise there. I hear it was a beating, though
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Post by: pilonv1 on September 20, 2009, 10:14:58 AM
So sick of Brandon Vera's boring fights
Fixed

well if there's one dude who can make me cheer for randy it's shitty very

103 was pretty good. the undercard shown on Spike was fucking amazing, the Story fight ruled. Efrain had an awesome knockout too.

Don't want to see Mirko again though. Let him go to Japan and take the Fedor* route of fighting cans
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Post by: OptimoPeach on September 20, 2009, 08:34:20 PM
Don't want to see Mirko again though.
:( He stated in a Croatian interview after the fight that he's pretty much done. He basically said he's mentally out of it, washed up, and was owned last night. He also said that the last punch tore the inside of his eyelid, and he had to have 4 stitches.  At least he can acknowledge that he needs to hang it up unlike some of the other guys (Chuck, Wanderlei).

I'm jizzing at the prospect of Belfort/Silva:

(http://i36.tinypic.com/33p3vo0.gif)

Are they planning on making it a habit of showing some of the undercard on Spike, or was that just to compete with the boxing PPV?
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Post by: pilonv1 on September 21, 2009, 03:58:25 AM
Think it was just for the boxing. But if they get a bunch of late buys they may want to continue it.
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Post by: Hollywood on October 25, 2009, 01:48:57 AM
 :lol :lol :lol

Machida wins with a screwjob, amazing! How did he win this fight? LOL. Hey i'm glad he won, but he was getting his ass kicked the entire fight with body and leg kicks.

Also icing on the cake is Evilore had some big bet over like several fights apparently or something and this was the last fight and the prick lost. That's what you get.  :lol
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Post by: Stoney Mason on October 25, 2009, 01:54:33 AM
I thought the early rounds were close and could have gone either way but I still thought Rua won and he definitely won the later rounds.
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Post by: E-DuB on October 25, 2009, 02:01:51 AM
Yeah that was pretty BS. The thing that got me was the fact that it was a unanimous decision. smh
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Post by: OptimoPeach on October 25, 2009, 02:09:25 AM
Such fucking HORSESHIT -- and I picked Machida to win! Clearly the bookies paid off the judges, because there's no way any honest spectator could have scored 3 rounds for Machida.

The thing that got me was the fact that it was a unanimous decision. smh
:rofl I KNOW
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Post by: E-DuB on October 25, 2009, 02:10:45 AM
Wasn't the line like +500 at one point for Shogun?
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Post by: OptimoPeach on October 25, 2009, 02:14:39 AM
Yeah, and I don't think it ever went any lower than 350 between then and fight night.
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Post by: Stoney Mason on October 25, 2009, 02:17:33 AM
Wasn't the line like +500 at one point for Shogun?

Yes but it wasn't surprising. Almost nobody picked Rua and certainly no one was betting for him in significant numbers after his fairly weak performances and Machida's dominance.

It was a bad ref job but that happens in any combat sport. It's not surprising to me that one judge may have given Machida a 48-47. It's that all the judges did.

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Post by: OptimoPeach on October 25, 2009, 02:21:00 AM
To call the judging "bad" is an understatement. I mean, I think I was even rooting for Machida a little bit, and I also think Rogan's commentary was a tad biased towards Shogun, but WTF.
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Post by: OptimoPeach on October 25, 2009, 04:18:10 AM
http://fightmetric.com/fights/Machida-Shogun.html

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Yahoo Sports / Cagewriter: 48-47 Rua
BloodyElbow : 48-47 Rua
USAToday: 48-47 Rua, 49-46 Rua
MMA Fanhouse / Michael David Smith: 48-47 Rua
MMATorch : 48-47 Rua
MMAJunkie : 49-46 or 48-47 Rua
MMAMania : 50-45 Rua
5 Ounces of Pain : Rua (no score given)
Fightlinker -- Rua (no score given)
ProMMA.Info: 50-45 Rua
Sherdog:
Jordan Breen scores the round 10-9 Rua (48-47 Rua)
Brian Knapp scores the round 10-9 Rua (48-47 Rua)
Mike Fridley scores the round 10-9 Rua (50-45 Rua)

PVT Users (biggest brazilian MMA community) = 80% Shogun
Sherdog Users = 90% Shogun

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(http://i36.tinypic.com/mlm38.jpg)

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SHENANIGANS
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Post by: Hollywood on November 08, 2009, 10:07:35 PM
Strikeforce last night was pretty good, despite the horrible commentary. Gus Johnson is the most exciting commentator in sports but he doesn't seem to know jack shit about mixed martial arts ("Shields is too good to be submitted by an elementary guillotine choke!" WTF?)

The Fedor fight was closed than expected and I thought Rogers may have had him when he was pounding him up against the cage. Just makes me wish more for the Brock-Fedor fight that won't happen.
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Post by: chronovore on November 08, 2009, 11:18:42 PM
I'm hearing that Fedor doesn't really develop a gameplan for a fighter, but I suspect in Lesnar's case it would be: submission, submission, submission. Get one of those Sambo leglocks on and Brock would be playing pitty-pat on the the mat.
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Post by: pilonv1 on November 09, 2009, 05:28:23 AM
Gus Johnson is terrible for MMA

Fedor looked pretty poor.

Never want to see Jake Shields again
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Post by: OptimoPeach on November 10, 2009, 12:31:28 AM
Gus Johnson is terrible for MMA

Fedor looked pretty poor.

Never want to see Jake Shields again
Agreed on all three.

I'm sure Fedor getting married had something to do with it, but I also think his entourage of yes men are doing a great job of inflating his ego. He definitely looked a little uncomfortable against the cage. But whatever, he still KTFO Rogers

Then again, Rogers looked better than I thought he would. Even though most of his shots landed were in that brief GNP session, I was at least impressed with his composure rolling out of the kimura and armbar (even though being against the cage helped). Whatever respect gained was lost when he started crying on the mic, though.

I really hope Strikeforce can hit Overeem up in between roid cycles so they can match him with Fedor, because Werdum looked like garbage last night

edit: Oh, and allegedly Fedor's translator censored out a bunch of his Jesus worshiping in the post-fight interview
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Post by: chronovore on November 10, 2009, 08:15:06 AM
Pretty sure I'd cry on the mic after a fight with Fedor, too.
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Post by: OptimoPeach on November 15, 2009, 12:45:39 AM
Pretty much the entire UFC sucked, and the boxing undercard sucked, but fuck my ass if Pacquiao/Cotto wasn't worth sitting through 5 hours of shitty fights and almost an hour of ceremonial flag-waving horseshit. Pacquiao is fucking amazing; I have to give props to Cotto just for lasting as long as he did, but it was pretty crazy to see him dominated so hard in virtually every round except for the first.

Back to MMA, though: After all the news about the heavyweight division (Lesnar out indefinitely with an unnamed career-threatening illness and mono, Carwin needs knee surgery, and Nogueira hospitalized with a fucking staph infection -- again), I'm actually glad Fedor was brainwashed into turning down Dana's offers.
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Post by: chronovore on January 22, 2010, 03:48:52 AM
Just found this .gif elsewhere:
spoiler (click to show/hide)
(http://i.imgur.com/zt5eI.gif)
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Who's fighting in this epic display of self-abuse?
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Post by: Boogie on January 22, 2010, 10:32:57 AM
Pretty sure that's Josh Neer punching himself in the face.  Not sure who the opponent is.

The extended version of that gif is hilarious too, because it shows that after he hits himself, he sorta waves his arms as if to say "what else am I supposed to do? He's just hugging me"
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Post by: chronovore on January 22, 2010, 11:37:21 PM
Or maybe he was waving his arms in a panic, as if to say "HELP! He's got an extra arm!"
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Post by: Boogie on January 23, 2010, 10:21:29 AM
(http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv235/iamboog/neerdumbasssb6.gif)
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Post by: chronovore on January 26, 2010, 08:06:15 PM
Nice.

I've been watching TUF lately, LTTP I know. Watching season 2, I'm starting to like Rashad and Joe Stevenson more than I did previously. And Matt Hughes even less than I already did.
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Post by: chronovore on February 26, 2010, 04:43:28 AM
(http://i26.tinypic.com/2em280i.jpg)
:rofl

Apparently there's a site which originated from this "fleeing fame"
http://www.watchkalibrun.com/
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Post by: chronovore on March 28, 2010, 08:09:22 PM
Oh, man. Mir got KTFO'd... again? I haven't seen the fight yet, but MAN I think he's just never going to stand against people who are that much stronger. He doesn't need bulk to throw with them, he needs speed to avoid being hit by them. :SAD
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Post by: WrikaWrek on March 28, 2010, 08:50:24 PM
The ref almost let Mir die in that ring. The guy was getting full blown illegal shots to the back of the head while he was knocked out, and while the ref was there watching.
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Post by: Stoney Mason on March 28, 2010, 08:52:47 PM
Yeah Mir was weird. He seems really passive against aggressive guys for some reason.
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Post by: OptimoPeach on March 29, 2010, 12:26:02 AM
The ref almost let Mir die in that ring. The guy was getting full blown illegal shots to the back of the head while he was knocked out, and while the ref was there watching.
Yeah, I think any ref worth a shit would have stopped it 3-4 punches after it hit the ground. Miragliotta actually has a long history of terrible reffing mistakes; moron shouldn't be anywhere near the octagon. If it was anyone other than Mir I would feel bad
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Post by: chronovore on March 29, 2010, 09:16:44 PM
The other day, I finally watched the Jon Jones vs Matt Hammill fight, and I was ready to climb in the cage and drop Mazzagatti -- what an ass-hat.

Jones had already destroyed Hammill, clearly Hammill had no way to get out, no plan, no hope, and Jones is looking at Steve for a stoppage. Nope. How much damage is going to have to happen? Finally Jones gets one or two strikes that mazzagatti doesn't like and THEN the match is over -- a DQ for Jones? WTF
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Post by: WrikaWrek on March 30, 2010, 12:06:04 AM
The other day, I finally watched the Jon Jones vs Matt Hammill fight, and I was ready to climb in the cage and drop Mazzagatti -- what an ass-hat.

Jones had already destroyed Hammill, clearly Hammill had no way to get out, no plan, no hope, and Jones is looking at Steve for a stoppage. Nope. How much damage is going to have to happen? Finally Jones gets one or two strikes that mazzagatti doesn't like and THEN the match is over -- a DQ for Jones? WTF

Yeah i don't understand.

Hammill had his shoulder all fucked up, his face blown to pieces, the best he was managing was getting hit straight in the face, and Jones was like "The fuck, do i need to kill him?"

Comedy ensues, Hammil is declared the winner while looking like he came out of a car crash, Jones was ready for another fight.

What's up with people all up in the arms about Palhares? The guy got the other dude in a submission, and it ain't training, it's over when when the ref says so.

Dude looks like a mini hulk.
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Post by: Stoney Mason on March 31, 2010, 09:09:12 PM
UFC Fight Night on now on Spike. Florian versus Gomi as the main event.
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Post by: chronovore on April 01, 2010, 10:06:43 AM
UFC Fight Night on now on Spike. Florian versus Gomi as the main event.

Yeah saw the results on that. So much for PRIDE as a barometer of talent. Florian is really good, and I like his attitude.


Comedy ensues, Hammil is declared the winner while looking like he came out of a car crash, Jones was ready for another fight.

What's up with people all up in the arms about Palhares? The guy got the other dude in a submission, and it ain't training, it's over when when the ref says so.

Dude looks like a mini hulk.

Yeah, the ref has to stop it. There are "no, no, I wasn't tapping" incidents going all the way back to UFC 1. One. As in, "from the very beginning of the league." So, hey. Leave it up to the Ref. Nothing wrong with Hendo's superman finisher on Bisping, either -- the ref needs to move in, dammit.
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Post by: Stoney Mason on April 01, 2010, 11:41:21 AM
Yeah saw the results on that. So much for PRIDE as a barometer of talent. Florian is really good, and I like his attitude.

I think the sport has just moved on. A lot of those pride fighters are either getting old or just were never very technical in the first place. Gomi's striking compared to Florian looked awful.
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Post by: chronovore on April 01, 2010, 12:36:03 PM
True enough, maybe I'm just imagining a larger pattern, when the real pattern is simply "time has passed."

It's just that so many of these guys who are hot in Japan appear in the Octagon and just get wasted. Crocop was obliterated in his Gonzaga fight, which made me think that Gonzaga was an utter badass, but he's looking like a wash for title contention.

Then again, ex-UFC champs aren't necessarily holding their own as the sport evolves. Despite their history, Sylvia and Arlovsky seem to have no place in the league any longer. It leaves me wondering the same thing Randy Couture recently speculated: is Fedor ducking a chance to prove his mettle, because he'd actually have a hard time facing someone like Brock or Carwin?
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Post by: Stoney Mason on April 01, 2010, 12:39:55 PM
True enough, maybe I'm just imagining a larger pattern, when the real pattern is simply "time has passed."

It's just that so many of these guys who are hot in Japan appear in the Octagon and just get wasted. Crocop was obliterated in his Gonzaga fight, which made me think that Gonzaga was an utter badass, but he's looking like a wash for title contention.

Then again, ex-UFC champs aren't necessarily holding their own as the sport evolves. Despite their history, Sylvia and Arlovsky seem to have no place in the league any longer. It leaves me wondering the same thing Randy Couture recently speculated: is Fedor ducking a chance to prove his mettle, because he'd actually have a hard time facing someone like Brock or Carwin?

I definitely see the new wave as simply being more perfected than the old wave. Look at a striker like Anderson Silva or a grappler like GSP. They are fucking incredible athletes and damn awesome and world class at their strengths and not too bad at the other facets of the game. The old guys were generally pretty good at one thing and incredibly weak at a lot of the other aspects.
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Post by: pilonv1 on April 02, 2010, 08:49:28 AM
Gomi :(

re: PRIDE guys, a lot of them fought so many times on short notice or multiple times on one night and with no athletic commission testing/regulations so their bodies are going much earlier than the UFC guys are.

Unfortunately this is a sport where once your body goes you're fucked. Unless you're a freak like Randy (who got into the sport late) there's only so much your body can take before your chin goes, or you just can't keep up with the current guys at their peak.
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Post by: Stoney Mason on April 10, 2010, 04:11:38 PM
Huge upset.


I'll be curious to see the fight metrics on it.
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Post by: OptimoPeach on April 10, 2010, 04:15:15 PM
Lazy, chubby BJ has returned :(

At least I can have rest assured that Anderson will deliver an assbeating
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Post by: Stoney Mason on April 10, 2010, 04:17:46 PM
I only caught two rounds on it so I can't really comment until I see the full thing.

Weird that BJ just didn't decide to take a clearly smaller fighter down and submit him or beat him up though.

Not that Sherdog matters but they had the fight as clearly for Penn.

http://www.sherdog.com/news/news/UFC-112-Results-amp-Live-Play-by-Play-23744
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Post by: OptimoPeach on April 10, 2010, 04:19:57 PM
Seemed like his pride was hurt and he wanted to make a point that he was better on the feet. After the third round his corner actually told him to take it to the ground and he just ignored him lol. And by then he was already gased. I dunno what was up. Maybe his knee was fucked, maybe he took training lightly, or maybe Edgar's footwork was just giving him trouble. Certainly disappointing though, cuz Edgar has zero charisma

I sorta felt like I was watching an extended, less dynamic version of Brian Bowles vs Dominic Cruz
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Post by: Stoney Mason on April 10, 2010, 04:22:59 PM
I don't think Edgar will be champ for very long either way. Nothing against the dude. He seems like a very nice guy but I highly doubt he would beat Penn in a rematch.

I also expect that Florian could beat him among others.
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Post by: Stoney Mason on April 10, 2010, 04:46:31 PM
It's weird and a little disappointing that Anderson just doesn't seem to care anymore. He just seems bored. He doesn't give a fuck anymore. He doesn't want to finish off fighters. He's the best in the world but he just doesn't care anymore.
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Post by: OptimoPeach on April 10, 2010, 04:53:17 PM
I was dying from all his clowning until it became clear that Silva wasn't gonna bother finishing.

And yeah, Edgar doesn't really have that aura of invincibility like Penn. Melendez vs Aoki next week is even more interesting now
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Post by: Stoney Mason on April 10, 2010, 04:56:31 PM
I thought it was humorous the first time but now its a full blown trend. Dude doesn't want to finish fights anymore and its never good to have a dominant champion who blows off opportunities to finish fights and to actually impress people. If he wants to go box he should go box. 

I've always been a big Silva fan but that is slowly become impossible to be.

Dana White is almost certainly pissed and he has good reason to be.
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Post by: BamYouHaveAids on April 10, 2010, 05:18:18 PM
need to set up anderson vs toney just so they can stand in the middle of the ring trying to bait each other into attacking by talking trash neither can  understand.
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Post by: Skidmark on April 10, 2010, 06:30:22 PM
I think that Anderson understood what the fans didn't like about GSP's fight with Hardy so he tried to take more risks than he usually does to satisfy the fans, but this time he ended up just being disrespectful to his opponent and exhausting himself from dancing.
Acting like a clown isn't really taking risks, fighting your opponent where he is best at is putting your belt at risk for the sake of a more exciting fight.
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Post by: Stoney Mason on April 10, 2010, 07:07:46 PM
I'm normally the guy who hates conspiracy theory people but I think there is something extra going on here that we as the public aren't seeing. It's like he is in some weird dispute with Dana White where he says fuck it. I'll beat whoever you put in front of me and I'll do it in the least fan friendly way possible while still outclassing my opponent so it hurts your business or something.

I don't know if he's mad about not being able allowed to box by Dana or mad about his choice of opponents or something but it just feels like something extra is going on here.
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Post by: Skidmark on April 10, 2010, 07:20:33 PM
I haven't been following ufc for a very long time to tell if if what you are saying is true or not but just from looking at the fight Anderson seemed to think that this is what the fans wanted to see and was surprised by who the fans reacted in the later rounds.
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Post by: BamYouHaveAids on April 10, 2010, 07:34:33 PM
I think that Anderson understood what the fans didn't like about GSP's fight with Hardy so he tried to take more risks than he usually does to satisfy the fans, but this time he ended up just being disrespectful to his opponent and exhausting himself from dancing.
Acting like a clown isn't really taking risks, fighting your opponent where he is best at is putting your belt at risk for the sake of a more exciting fight.
i doubt he was tired. rogan was just trying to rationalize why he was preforming like that.

i agree, with stoney he clearly has some agenda.
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Post by: Stoney Mason on April 10, 2010, 07:38:47 PM
I think what's common to most combat sports fans is that they like knockouts and people who finish. Probably overly so. It's why somebody like Mike Tyson still casts a shadow over boxing and combat sports in general. You could say the same about Fedor.

And the weird thing is that Silva was right in that mold. Before Cote he had 7 fights in the UFC and they all ended in the 1st or 2nd round. But starting with Cote he started to fight way differently. The old Silva re-emerged in the Griffin fight but that's mainly because Griffin fought a real straight ahead (i.e. dumb) match.

Everybody knows and understands he's way better than these guys which is why it's weird when he stops fighting during a match. He could have easily finished Maia earlier in the fight. But he let off for some reason. That's hard to accept as a fight fan of any kind.

And he didn't let off because he was worried about Maia which would be an understandable situation in most champion/challenger situation. I don't really understand why he let off. And later in the fight he barely threw anything.

That's not why he got so popular and impressed people. He impressed people by finishing them and by being elusive and entertaining. He's dropped the finishing them part which just makes for 5 boring rounds.

It's understandable when you face better competition that they are harder to finish but I don't think anybody has the sense that these guys are challenging for Silva or that he couldn't finish them. He just doesn't for some reason now.

Also that Hughes, Gracie fight was god awful also.      
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Post by: Skidmark on April 10, 2010, 07:49:00 PM
I think what's common to most combat sports fans is that they like knockouts and people who finish. Probably overly so. It's why somebody like Mike Tyson still casts a shadow over boxing and combat sports in general. You could say the same about Fedor.

And the weird thing is that Silva was right in that mold. Before Cote he had 7 fights in the UFC and they all ended in the 1st or 2nd round. But starting with Cote he started to fight way differently. The old Silva re-emerged in the Griffin fight but that's mainly because Griffin fought a real straight ahead (i.e. dumb) match.

Everybody knows and understands he's way better than these guys which is why it's weird when he stops fighting during a match. He could have easily finished Maia earlier in the fight. But he let off for some reason. That's hard to accept as a fight fan of any kind.

And he didn't let off because he was worried about Maia which would be an understandable situation in most champion/challenger situation. I don't really understand why he let off. And later in the fight he barely threw anything.

That's not why he got so popular and impressed people. He impressed people by finishing them and by being elusive and entertaining. He's dropped the finishing them part which just makes for 5 boring rounds.

It's understandable when you face better competition that they are harder to finish but I don't think anybody has the sense that these guys are challenging for Silva or that he couldn't finish them. He just doesn't for some reason now.

Also that Hughes, Gracie fight was god awful also.      
It sounds more likely to be true now that you have explained why you think so, I also felt that Dana over reacted a bit from reading those tweets.
I don't know enough to tell so I will stay neutral but I really hope that it is not true and that there is a better explanation to why he is behaving this way.
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Post by: Stoney Mason on April 10, 2010, 07:55:17 PM
I don't think anyone of us will know the truth unless we are there for the conversation between the two. I know Silva really wanted to fight Roy Jones and was upset when Dana wouldn't allow it.

Of course it could be anything. Silva could want more money or the chance the bounce around weight divisions or who knows. It could also legit be that for what ever reason he thinks its a good idea to fight the way he's been fighting recently. But from a marketing and money perspective I can certainly say it isn't.
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Post by: Skidmark on April 10, 2010, 07:57:46 PM
check out Dana white's recent tweets if you haven't done so already:
http://twitter.com/danawhite  :lol
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Post by: BamYouHaveAids on April 10, 2010, 07:57:50 PM
sad that the best fight on the card was Grove/Munoz, especially with how much talent was on it. can't believe BJ reverted back into being a lazy unmotivated lump of mass again, he gets complacent way too easy.

I don't think anyone of us will know the truth unless we are there for the conversation between the two. I know Silva really wanted to fight Roy Jones and was upset when Dana wouldn't allow it.

Of course it could be anything. Silva could want more money or the chance the bounce around weight divisions or who knows. It could also legit be that for what ever reason he thinks its a good idea to fight the way he's been fighting recently. But from a marketing and money perspective I can certainly say it isn't.
he could be trying to get out of his contract. possibly the reason he preformed like he did at 101 is because jones was in attendance and he believed the fight had a realistic chance of happening.
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Post by: WrikaWrek on April 10, 2010, 10:34:57 PM
Anderson Silva did his Dural from Virtua Fighter thing with Maia, impersonating other fighters.

Anyway, people can bitch on all they want, the guy busted Maia's face and then stopped attacking his face have you noticed that? He felt bad, that he had clowned around so much, and busted this dude's face that had done nothing worth of being disrespected. Regret, pity, that's what made Anderson Silva completely change halfway through.

Give him a real challenge.
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Post by: BamYouHaveAids on April 10, 2010, 10:52:30 PM
Anderson Silva did his Dural from Virtua Fighter thing with Maia, impersonating other fighters.

Anyway, people can bitch on all they want, the guy busted Maia's face and then stopped attacking his face have you noticed that? He felt bad, that he had clowned around so much, and busted this dude's face that had done nothing worth of being disrespected. Regret, pity, that's what made Anderson Silva completely change halfway through.

Give him a real challenge.
don't buy that at all. he continued to taunt until the end of the fourth even though he wasn't engaging. he acted like an ass and deserves criticism.

running away from your opponent a entire round isn't the way to show you want a challenge, beating them decisively is.
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Post by: WrikaWrek on April 10, 2010, 10:55:51 PM
Anderson Silva did his Dural from Virtua Fighter thing with Maia, impersonating other fighters.

Anyway, people can bitch on all they want, the guy busted Maia's face and then stopped attacking his face have you noticed that? He felt bad, that he had clowned around so much, and busted this dude's face that had done nothing worth of being disrespected. Regret, pity, that's what made Anderson Silva completely change halfway through.

Give him a real challenge.
don't buy that at all. he continued to taunt until the end of the fourth even though he wasn't engaging. he acted like an ass and deserves criticism.

running away from your opponent a entire round isn't the way to show you want a challenge, beating them decisively is.

The point is, he completely stopped hitting Maia, aside from some "get back" kicks.

He beat Maia decisively, Anderson doesn't have one scratch. Maia had his eye shut and his nose broken. I love how Anderson fights like this are more about "I demand to see Silva kill somebody" and not "I demand to see a fight". Because what did Maia do aside from getting his face fucked up, throw himself on the ground and then at the end go for broke on 2 moments.

Give me a break.
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Post by: BamYouHaveAids on April 10, 2010, 11:04:46 PM
Anderson Silva did his Dural from Virtua Fighter thing with Maia, impersonating other fighters.

Anyway, people can bitch on all they want, the guy busted Maia's face and then stopped attacking his face have you noticed that? He felt bad, that he had clowned around so much, and busted this dude's face that had done nothing worth of being disrespected. Regret, pity, that's what made Anderson Silva completely change halfway through.

Give him a real challenge.
don't buy that at all. he continued to taunt until the end of the fourth even though he wasn't engaging. he acted like an ass and deserves criticism.

running away from your opponent a entire round isn't the way to show you want a challenge, beating them decisively is.

The point is, he completely stopped hitting Maia, aside from some "get back" kicks.

He beat Maia decisively, Anderson doesn't have one scratch. Maia had his eye shut and his nose broken. I love how Anderson fights like this are more about "I demand to see Silva kill somebody" and not "I demand to see a fight". Because what did Maia do aside from getting his face fucked up, throw himself on the ground and then at the end go for broke on 2 moments.

Give me a break.
what point are you arguing? i don't think anyone is saying maia won, just that anderson put on a bad fight and acted like a douche. if you can beat someone beat them, don't just taunt and humiliate them, it's disrespectful and a waste of time.
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Post by: WrikaWrek on April 10, 2010, 11:08:29 PM
But he beat him.

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Post by: Boogie on April 11, 2010, 02:56:36 AM
After all the bullshit spouted about GSP after 111, this event was poor karma for me.  BJ looks like shit, and Anderson Silva throws a fucking temper tantrum like a four year old and just fucking quits after the second round.

By the time the crowd started chanting GSP I was laughing my ass off.
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Post by: OptimoPeach on April 11, 2010, 04:50:30 AM
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@danawhite you should have built that stadium in russia instead, the best p4p doesn't play around, gas out or disrespect the fans like that.
Dana actually agreed with this tweet :dizzy
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Post by: Stoney Mason on April 11, 2010, 11:10:10 AM
Fight Metrics says Penn won. I'll watch the fight this evening.

http://www.fightmetric.com/fights/Edgar-Penn.html
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Post by: OptimoPeach on April 11, 2010, 11:38:54 AM
Yeah Breen and De Santis on the Sherdog radio show were pretty emphatic in their disagreement with the decision. I dunno. I was watching on a low quality stream, but I thought Edgar stole rounds 3, 4, and 5. Maybe I mistook Edgar's activity for damage. Regardless, Penn looked like shit as the fight wore on and he was visibly worried before the decision was announced. If anything I think it could have easily been a draw
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Post by: Stoney Mason on April 11, 2010, 11:59:14 AM
Like I said, I'll comment after I see the whole thing but I do think the judge who gave every round to Edgar was insane.
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Post by: OptimoPeach on April 11, 2010, 12:05:59 PM
Oh yeah :lol That was unreal
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Post by: Stoney Mason on April 17, 2010, 01:10:46 PM
Couple of good bouts tonights free on CBS.


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Middleweight Championship bout:  Jake Shields (c) vs.  Dan Henderson[1]
Light Heavyweight Championship bout:  Gegard Mousasi (c) vs.  Muhammed Lawal[1]
Lightweight Championship bout:  Gilbert Melendez (c) vs.  Shinya Aoki[1]
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Post by: Stoney Mason on April 17, 2010, 09:54:12 PM
About to come on CBS.
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Post by: OptimoPeach on April 17, 2010, 10:08:26 PM
Yup. Lots of big fights.

Can't wait to see Shields get smashed
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Post by: Stoney Mason on April 17, 2010, 10:12:35 PM
Yeah hendo should crush him.

Feeding King Mo to Mousasi is stupid. Dude has 6 fights. Why not try to build up a prospect instead of throwing him to the wolves.
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Post by: Stoney Mason on April 17, 2010, 10:19:09 PM
King Mo already gassed round 1.
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Post by: CajoleJuice on April 17, 2010, 10:26:49 PM
I'd be watching if the Mets game weren't in the 16th inning.
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Post by: Stoney Mason on April 17, 2010, 10:29:00 PM
Wow. Even though he will probably win it, this hasn't been a good fight at all for Mousasi. He looks like shit himself. He keeps getting taken down by an exhausted King Mo. King Mo doesn't do anything when he has him on the ground but still.
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Post by: Stoney Mason on April 17, 2010, 10:33:49 PM
Uh... King Mo is winning this fight and it's round 4. If Mousasi loses this will be hilarious. People had anointed this dude the next big thing.
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Post by: Stoney Mason on April 17, 2010, 10:41:58 PM
3 minutes left in the 5th round. Kingo Mo is easily winning this fight. Mousasi just also just got 1 point deducted.  :lol
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Post by: OptimoPeach on April 17, 2010, 10:43:28 PM
Yeah ended up being quite the snoozefest. Disappointed with Mousasi but oh well
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Post by: Stoney Mason on April 17, 2010, 10:45:00 PM
Yeah ended up being quite the snoozefest. Disappointed with Mousasi but oh well

It was a boring fight but this is tremendously embarrasing for Mousasi.

King Mo had no expectations on him. Everybody expected him to lose me included. God Damn awful performance from baby Fedor.  :lol

Strikeforce has no LHW division.
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Post by: Stoney Mason on April 18, 2010, 12:14:29 AM
Props to Jake Shields in this round 2.
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Post by: Stoney Mason on April 18, 2010, 12:24:25 AM
lol. Shields is gonna lay and pray his way to win over Hendo here.

:lol

Been a bad night for strikeforce.
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Post by: Bloodwake on April 18, 2010, 03:11:50 AM
I didn't watch strikeforce tonight, but it couldn't have been as bad as that Silva fight in UFC 112

lmfao. The sad thing is that if I saw Silva in real life I would run the other direction. I'm literally terrified of the dude. It's a fucking shame he has decided to basically coast the rest of the fights on his contract.
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Post by: Stoney Mason on April 18, 2010, 03:15:11 AM
It was a worse card than UFC 112.
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Post by: OptimoPeach on April 18, 2010, 03:17:45 AM
Wasn't too thrilled with anyone other than Melendez. Strikeforce was definitely worse than the UFC :(  What was supposed to be the best month of MMA all year has become a bunch of forgettable and disappointing decisions -- at least with the marquee fights.

So glad I can count on Jose Aldo to lay an ass whooping on Urijah next week
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Post by: Bloodwake on April 18, 2010, 03:22:50 AM
I'm glad I skipped out on it then. I watched the rest of 112 tonight and I was pretty pissed off.

Whether Penn won or not is another matter, but the judging was BS. That should have been judged a lot closer than it was.
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Post by: Stoney Mason on April 18, 2010, 03:26:16 AM
Yeah Melendez seems like the real deal. Unfortunate there is so little competition over there for him.

Henderson came in with a world of hype and name recognition after defecting from the UFC and then promptly gets handled.

Shields is probably gonna try to leave.

The most credible LHW they had just looked shitty.

The LWH champion they do have is very inexperienced and green.

And their next big HW fight is Overeem versus Brett Rogers.



Not exactly a great position to be in for Strikeforce.
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Post by: chronovore on April 19, 2010, 07:55:54 PM
I haven't seen it yet; what happened with the Diaz-initiated "brawl" I'm hearing about?
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Post by: pilonv1 on April 19, 2010, 10:03:36 PM
Couple of good bouts tonights free on CBS.

:lol

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I haven't seen it yet; what happened with the Diaz-initiated "brawl" I'm hearing about?

Miller interrupted Sheilds interview, Melendez pushed him, Miller laughed and sort of shoved him back and then it was on, with the Diaz brothers going quite hard.
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Post by: chronovore on April 19, 2010, 10:08:24 PM
Hm. I keep hearing that it's an embarrassment for MMA as a sport, but don't brawls break out in other sports. I mean, even sports that aren't defined as "Beating the crap out of the other guy"?
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Post by: OptimoPeach on April 19, 2010, 10:28:04 PM
Kevin Garnett was throwing elbows at basketball players a few hours before this even happened, so I think Strikeforce is okay
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Post by: pilonv1 on April 19, 2010, 10:57:36 PM
It's not an embarassment, it's no different to that time the Diaz brothers flipped off KJ Noons.

Thank god it actually happened because otherwise it would be a dull as fuck show.
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Post by: Stoney Mason on April 24, 2010, 10:52:47 AM
First WEC ppv card tonight.

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Featherweight Championship bout:  Jose Aldo (c) vs.  Urijah Faber
Lightweight Championship bout:  Ben Henderson (c) vs.  Donald Cerrone
Featherweight bout:  Mike Brown vs.  Manvel Gamburyan
Lightweight bout:  Anthony Njokuani vs.  Shane Roller
Bantamweight bout:  Antonio Banuelos vs.  Scott Jorgensen
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Post by: Bloodwake on April 24, 2010, 11:12:24 AM
First WEC ppv card tonight.

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Featherweight Championship bout:  Jose Aldo (c) vs.  Urijah Faber
Lightweight Championship bout:  Ben Henderson (c) vs.  Donald Cerrone
Featherweight bout:  Mike Brown vs.  Manvel Gamburyan
Lightweight bout:  Anthony Njokuani vs.  Shane Roller
Bantamweight bout:  Antonio Banuelos vs.  Scott Jorgensen

I'm probably going to give this a watch. The headlining fight should be worth it.
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Post by: Stoney Mason on April 24, 2010, 10:46:47 PM
Crazy WEC prelim fight on Spike.
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Post by: Boogie on April 24, 2010, 10:47:52 PM
Crazy WEC prelim fight on Spike.

If people are watching this, it HAS to help the buyrate for this event.  Crazy ass fight!
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Post by: OptimoPeach on April 24, 2010, 11:36:27 PM
They probably all changed their minds after that awful decision from the judges.

Can't wait for the main event. I'm actually from Sac but Jose is gonna shit shit shit all over Faber
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Post by: Stoney Mason on April 24, 2010, 11:44:38 PM
lulz. Dana with Jake Shields at the WEC ppv.
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Post by: CajoleJuice on April 24, 2010, 11:59:10 PM
They probably all changed their minds after that awful decision from the judges.

^^

Forgot to post in here after that insane fight.
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Post by: Stoney Mason on April 25, 2010, 12:42:34 AM
Been a great card so far. Deservers a decent buy rate.
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Post by: Stoney Mason on April 25, 2010, 01:21:01 AM
Urijah faber 

 :lol
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Post by: WrikaWrek on April 25, 2010, 11:06:52 PM
Aldo killed that leg.
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Post by: pilonv1 on April 26, 2010, 02:25:21 AM
Fucking amazing show, that is the new Takayama-Frye fight that all brawls will be judged on. WEC always delivers
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Post by: WrikaWrek on April 26, 2010, 01:26:35 PM
Korean Zombie vs Garcia was the craziest shit ever.
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Post by: Bloodwake on April 26, 2010, 03:07:49 PM
WEC FTW.
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Post by: Stoney Mason on April 26, 2010, 06:00:19 PM
In shocking news an ex porn star and a mma fighter are having problems.

http://www.tmz.com/2010/04/26/jenna-jameson-tito-ortiz-pressing-charges/
http://www.tmz.com/2010/04/26/tito-ortiz-arrested-for-domestic-violence-jeanna-jameson/
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Post by: chronovore on April 26, 2010, 08:15:45 PM
Maybe he was trying to train her. "KEEP YOUR GUARD UP! KEEP YOUR GUARD UP!"
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Post by: Bloodwake on April 30, 2010, 01:25:22 AM
Lol, and he's one of the current coaches on Ultimate Fighter.
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Post by: Stoney Mason on May 08, 2010, 12:00:47 PM
UFC 113 tonight

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Light Heavyweight Championship bout:  Lyoto Machida (c) vs.  Mauricio Rua
Welterweight bout:  Josh Koscheck vs.  Paul Daley
Heavyweight bout:  Kimbo Slice vs.  Matt Mitrione
Middleweight bout:  Patrick Côté vs.  Alan Belcher
Lightweight bout:  Sam Stout vs.  Jeremy Stephens
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Post by: WrikaWrek on May 08, 2010, 08:55:16 PM
Went to see how much it cost to stream the event online, 45 dolars.

You gotta be shitting me. I mean seriously? I was thinking "If it's like 5$ i might try it...might.." but 45$? There are people who pay that kind of shit?

Good god.
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Post by: Arbys Roast Beef Sandwich on May 08, 2010, 09:48:29 PM
kimbo has a fight tonight? :lol
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Post by: bud on May 08, 2010, 09:49:44 PM
there's a video of kimbo called ''in the vip'' or something and he's looking all :o at all dat ass :lol
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Post by: WrikaWrek on May 08, 2010, 10:06:39 PM
Anybody has some links for streams?
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Post by: CajoleJuice on May 08, 2010, 10:15:51 PM
http://atdhe.net/15526/watch-ufc-113-machida-vs-shogun-2

need to download veetle, but that's no problem
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Post by: WrikaWrek on May 08, 2010, 10:25:07 PM
Thanks Cajole
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Post by: WrikaWrek on May 08, 2010, 10:26:06 PM
Bam

Choked him out!
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Post by: Stoney Mason on May 08, 2010, 10:28:43 PM
Pedigree for the win!
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Post by: CajoleJuice on May 08, 2010, 10:48:03 PM
Kimbo is AWFUL

He's lucky this white guy has no idea how to submit. :lol
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Post by: FatalT on May 08, 2010, 10:52:18 PM
Kimbo got wtfowned.
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Post by: WrikaWrek on May 08, 2010, 10:55:56 PM
End of 2nd round both guys couldn't handle the weight of their own arms.
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Post by: WrikaWrek on May 08, 2010, 11:51:53 PM
Diving in the UFC?  :lol
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Post by: CajoleJuice on May 08, 2010, 11:53:14 PM
what a bitch
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Post by: WrikaWrek on May 09, 2010, 12:05:45 AM
This ain't no fight.

One day UFC really has to start score fights as fights and not as wrestling matches.
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Post by: WrikaWrek on May 09, 2010, 12:06:01 AM
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA


He fucking punched him
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Post by: CajoleJuice on May 09, 2010, 12:06:33 AM
:rofl
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Post by: WrikaWrek on May 09, 2010, 12:07:34 AM
Wish he had knocked him out though. That would be going out in style.

That ended up being just a lil bitch punch
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Post by: CajoleJuice on May 09, 2010, 12:09:58 AM
Kos is an awesome heel holy shit :lol :lol
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Post by: WrikaWrek on May 09, 2010, 12:14:59 AM
Fuck.

I feel it. Machida is gonna lose  :'(
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Post by: CajoleJuice on May 09, 2010, 12:26:03 AM
Fuck.

I feel it. Machida is gonna lose  :'(

welp, you were right

HOLY SHIT
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Post by: WrikaWrek on May 09, 2010, 12:26:15 AM
Damn.

Machida got owned. The two punches to the temple. Too much, the guy was finished as soon as hit the floor.
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Post by: Arbys Roast Beef Sandwich on May 09, 2010, 12:28:49 AM
:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
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Post by: WrikaWrek on May 09, 2010, 12:29:37 AM
Well, Shogun is just bad match for Machida.

Hope Anderson Silva moves up and cleans the division with break dancing skills
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Post by: CajoleJuice on May 09, 2010, 12:30:00 AM
Shogun is a mama's boy
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Post by: Stoney Mason on May 09, 2010, 12:33:14 AM
Damn impressive Shogun win. No doubt about that one.
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Post by: CajoleJuice on May 09, 2010, 12:55:37 AM
(http://i39.tinypic.com/vfldvp.jpg)

GodDAMN

When he just holds Machida's head up to fucking SMASH...
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Post by: Boogie on May 09, 2010, 01:21:21 AM
This ain't no fight.

One day UFC really has to start score fights as fights and not as wrestling matches.

Oh, stuff it.  How does "scoring it as a fight" change the outcome compared with "scoring it as a wrestling match"?

When you can have your way with an opponent like Kos did in this fight, you win.

Or put it another way, when the only way that Daley can land a punch is to chase Kos after the fight is over and throw a sucker punch, then in no conceivable way can you say that Kos didn't deserve to win.
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Post by: chronovore on May 09, 2010, 12:07:26 PM
I'm hearing Daly also kneed Kos in the head getting up from a ground position. What's with that?
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Post by: Stoney Mason on May 09, 2010, 12:13:12 PM
I'm hearing Daly also kneed Kos in the head getting up from a ground position. What's with that?

He didn't. Kos faked an over-reaction to what looked like a knee on the ground but wasn't. He has a history of phony reactions.

(http://i41.tinypic.com/23v1dag.jpg)
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Post by: Skidmark on May 09, 2010, 01:08:57 PM
Both Daley and Kimbo are gone from the ufc now.

http://www.mmafighting.com/2010/05/09/ufc-113-post-fight-press-conference-video/
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Post by: WrikaWrek on May 09, 2010, 01:10:41 PM
This ain't no fight.

One day UFC really has to start score fights as fights and not as wrestling matches.

Oh, stuff it.  How does "scoring it as a fight" change the outcome compared with "scoring it as a wrestling match"?

When you can have your way with an opponent like Kos did in this fight, you win.

Or put it another way, when the only way that Daley can land a punch is to chase Kos after the fight is over and throw a sucker punch, then in no conceivable way can you say that Kos didn't deserve to win.

All i'm saying is, just taking people down without doing damage is the most boring shit ever. Rashad Evans did it, Fitch did it, Kos did it.

It's not what it's supposed to be about. It's like anti fighting.
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Post by: OptimoPeach on May 09, 2010, 07:03:28 PM
(http://i40.tinypic.com/1zdq239.jpg)

Karma's a bitch

This ain't no fight.

One day UFC really has to start score fights as fights and not as wrestling matches.

Oh, stuff it.  How does "scoring it as a fight" change the outcome compared with "scoring it as a wrestling match"?

When you can have your way with an opponent like Kos did in this fight, you win.

Or put it another way, when the only way that Daley can land a punch is to chase Kos after the fight is over and throw a sucker punch, then in no conceivable way can you say that Kos didn't deserve to win.

All i'm saying is, just taking people down without doing damage is the most boring shit ever. Rashad Evans did it, Fitch did it, Kos did it.

It's not what it's supposed to be about. It's like anti fighting.
I don't think Evans got past Thiago Silva's half guard a single time throughout the fight, and Fitch is only a few notches above him when it comes to looking for a finish on the ground. Koscheck was constantly improving his position and attempted a submission or two as well; moreover, that was his first decision win in nearly 2 years, and Lytle got his ass beat in that fight. I don't think Koscheck has looked that boring since his TUF days. It's absolutely not exciting, but you can just as easily blame Daley's inability to do anything on the ground other than hang on for dear life and stall.
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Post by: chronovore on May 09, 2010, 07:22:13 PM
I'm hearing Daly also kneed Kos in the head getting up from a ground position. What's with that?

He didn't. Kos faked an over-reaction to what looked like a knee on the ground but wasn't. He has a history of phony reactions.

(http://i41.tinypic.com/23v1dag.jpg)

Yoinks! That looks like a full-on whiff!

Let's hope no Octagon Girls lose their careers in the aftermath of this one (http://www.rawvegas.tv/watch/ufc-octagon-girls-natasha-wicks-and-logan-stanton-say-josh-koscheck-faked-injury-at-ufc-106/fb52fc060c8a49412b1418c47f5a17).
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Post by: pilonv1 on May 10, 2010, 01:56:28 AM
This was an awesome show if only for Kos and his great promo after.

Also Matt Mitrione is a fantastic man.
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Post by: Skidmark on May 10, 2010, 11:03:08 AM
This will be interesting!
[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3n0nPUOW0ik[/youtube]

[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RnUKkWNeI60[/youtube]

[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0I86M_3MZg[/youtube]
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Post by: Stoney Mason on May 10, 2010, 12:51:46 PM
[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQSveKmmupQ[/youtube]

 :bow2

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Post by: Skidmark on May 10, 2010, 01:51:09 PM
I am starting to like this guy  :lol
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Post by: Bloodwake on May 10, 2010, 01:56:07 PM
UFC 113 tonight

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Light Heavyweight Championship bout:  Lyoto Machida (c) vs.  Mauricio Rua
Welterweight bout:  Josh Koscheck vs.  Paul Daley
Heavyweight bout:  Kimbo Slice vs.  Matt Mitrione
Middleweight bout:  Patrick Côté vs.  Alan Belcher
Lightweight bout:  Sam Stout vs.  Jeremy Stephens

I got this for free on the internet store, probably will watch it later tonight.
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Post by: WrikaWrek on May 10, 2010, 09:53:48 PM
Pretty big Machida fan, but his attitude as of late was shit.

Shogun is complete opposite, http://www.sherdog.com/videos/recent/Shogun-Hoping-to-Square-Off-With-Couture-Next-2423. Makes it impossible to not be happy for the guy. His translator is a douchebag though.
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Post by: chronovore on May 10, 2010, 10:26:28 PM
Pretty big Machida fan, but his attitude as of late was shit.
Me too; I like Lyoto from the first fight I saw him in, that Heath fight. Evade, evade, evade, and then MT clinch, knees to the head, what was it, 7 in a row?

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Shogun is complete opposite, http://www.sherdog.com/videos/recent/Shogun-Hoping-to-Square-Off-With-Couture-Next-2423. Makes it impossible to not be happy for the guy. His translator is a douchebag though.
I don't see the douchebaggery. He seemed to be doing his job alright.
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Post by: WrikaWrek on May 10, 2010, 10:34:08 PM
Pretty big Machida fan, but his attitude as of late was shit.
Me too; I like Lyoto from the first fight I saw him in, that Heath fight. Evade, evade, evade, and then MT clinch, knees to the head, what was it, 7 in a row?

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Shogun is complete opposite, http://www.sherdog.com/videos/recent/Shogun-Hoping-to-Square-Off-With-Couture-Next-2423. Makes it impossible to not be happy for the guy. His translator is a douchebag though.
I don't see the douchebaggery. He seemed to be doing his job alright.

Not in that video, that video was more to show Shogun happy face. In the countdown, in other interviews, the guy is too full of himself.
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Post by: chronovore on May 11, 2010, 08:42:56 AM
Yeah, a lot of people who get caught up in the entourage rarely realize that it isn't about them.
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Post by: Bloodwake on May 13, 2010, 04:16:45 AM
113 > 112, that's for sure.

Well, Shogun definitely won the belt he should've had months back. Good for him, and in the first fucking round too!
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Post by: Stoney Mason on May 15, 2010, 10:21:11 AM
Not an especially great slate of fights but there is a Strikeforce on Showtime card tonight.

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Heavyweight Championship bout:  Alistair Overeem (c) vs.  Brett Rogers
Heavyweight bout:  Andrei Arlovski vs.  Antonio Silva
Middleweight bout:  Ronaldo Souza vs.  Joey Villaseñor
Light Heavyweight bout:  Roger Gracie vs.  Kevin Randleman
Light Heavyweight bout:  Rafael Cavalcante vs.  Antwain Britt
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Post by: OptimoPeach on May 15, 2010, 03:02:38 PM
I will be absolutely shocked if Rogers doesn't leave the cage on a stretcher, but nothing would make me happier than to see Rogers somehow win and walk away with the title, meaning Strikeforce would be stuck with Fedor vs Rogers 2 -- and it would serve them right for letting the Russians bend them over like they have.

Couldn't be any less interested in Arlovski vs Antonio Silva.

Randleman is gonna get choked out, probably in under 3 minutes

edit: I forgot that Jacare is on the card as well!
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Post by: WrikaWrek on May 15, 2010, 04:28:53 PM
Rogers packs a punchers chance, but Ubereem just seems like he has the tools to K.O Rogers.
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Post by: OptimoPeach on May 16, 2010, 12:07:07 AM
Heh I liked Overeem calling out Fedor's posse at the end. Hopefully Fedor isn't too far over the hill to beat that ass
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Post by: Stoney Mason on May 16, 2010, 03:01:20 PM
Just watched the Strikeforce Card. Arlovski as usual disappoints. Dude has a lot of talent but very rarely shows it.

Overeem versus Rogers was a mauling as I expected. It's weird that we have to wait for a Werdum/Fedor fight which will be a foregone conclusion instead of Overeem/Fedor right away but whatever I guess. 
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Post by: pilonv1 on May 18, 2010, 01:39:24 AM
I can't get excited for Strikeforce. I will admit I was into the Cung Le/Shamrock fight, but that's about it. There's no depth of talent and no fights that get me excited.
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Post by: Skidmark on May 18, 2010, 09:57:19 PM
http://www.bjpenn.com/video/rampage-and-evans-go-off-on
 :lol
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Post by: BamYouHaveAids on May 19, 2010, 07:54:09 AM
I can't get excited for Strikeforce. I will admit I was into the Cung Le/Shamrock fight, but that's about it. There's no depth of talent and no fights that get me excited.
good fights are good fights. heavy artillery was better than the last couple ufcs.

overeem going king kong and sending a 280 pound man airborne :bow2
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Post by: Stoney Mason on May 29, 2010, 09:55:49 AM
Tonight is black on black crime.

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Main card
Light Heavyweight bout:  Quinton Jackson vs.  Rashad Evans
Middleweight bout:  Michael Bisping vs.  Dan Miller
Heavyweight bout:  Todd Duffee vs.  Mike Russow
Light Heavyweight bout:  Antônio Rogério Nogueira vs.  Jason Brilz
Welterweight bout:  Diego Sanchez vs.  John Hathaway

Preliminary card (Spike TV)
Welterweight bout:  Amir Sadollah vs.  Dong Hyun Kim
Lightweight bout:  Efrain Escudero vs.  Dan Lauzon
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Post by: WrikaWrek on May 29, 2010, 07:56:47 PM
Feeling it again.

Rampage is gonna beat Rashad.
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Post by: OptimoPeach on May 29, 2010, 08:25:49 PM
Have to agree.

I'm not really pulling for anyone on this card, though. Just hope there's some good finishes. Nick Diaz winning last night was enough to sate me, even if that dipshit ref did ruin Sakuraba's chance at collecting another Gracie skull
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Post by: WrikaWrek on May 30, 2010, 12:56:00 AM
The future of UFC ladies and gentlemen.

Dry humping
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Post by: Stoney Mason on May 30, 2010, 01:01:26 AM
To be fair I give Rashad props. Those first two rounds were typical boring ass lame evans but the third round he really showed up. He took a hard shoot. And then came back and dominated Rampage. No shame in that imo.
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Post by: OptimoPeach on May 30, 2010, 01:43:44 AM
Meh. Oh well. Barring 5 rounds of LNP, Shogun should annihilate him.

At least Rampage had an excuse for looking shitty. Did Big Nog fill in for his little brother? Because that's the only logical explanation I can think of for that performance.
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Post by: Stoney Mason on June 12, 2010, 01:04:59 PM
Not an especially good card tonight but a card is a card I guess...

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Light Heavyweight bout:  Chuck Liddell vs.  Rich Franklin
Heavyweight bout:  Mirko Filipović vs.  Pat Barry
Welterweight bout:  Paulo Thiago vs.  Martin Kampmann
Heavyweight bout:  Ben Rothwell vs.  Gilbert Yvel
Welterweight bout:  Carlos Condit vs.  Rory MacDonald

Preliminary card (Spike TV)
Lightweight bout:  Tyson Griffin vs.  Evan Dunham
Lightweight bout:  Mac Danzig vs.  Matt Wiman
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Post by: chronovore on June 12, 2010, 07:59:10 PM
I'm anxious to see if CroCop can exit with any dignity left, i.e. win.

He's a tough guy, sure, but he really appears to have failed to adapt to the UFC.
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Post by: OptimoPeach on June 12, 2010, 08:02:53 PM
I have a really bad feeling that he's gonna get demolished :(
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Post by: chronovore on June 12, 2010, 08:05:52 PM
I think that's why they chose Barry. When the UFC wants to send someone out the door, they go big. Tito vs. Lyoto? C'mon!
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Post by: Stoney Mason on June 12, 2010, 08:06:20 PM
Honestly I don't even understand why Crocop is still fighting. There is no way he is ever going to be capable of making another title run. And his UFC stint has been mostly embarrassing.
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Post by: OptimoPeach on June 13, 2010, 12:05:52 AM
Man I'm so happy for Crocop
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Post by: Stoney Mason on June 13, 2010, 12:07:10 AM
I'm happy because he's a legend and its always nice to see legends win but dude really needs to retire. He still looked pretty bad for a lot of that fight.

This would be a perfect win for him to retire on. But I know he won't.
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Post by: OptimoPeach on June 13, 2010, 12:12:37 AM
Yeah I'm interested to see what happens after this -- especially after he was all like "Hey Dana I know you're stingy but I'm expecting that fight bonus, thanks" :rofl
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Post by: Stoney Mason on June 13, 2010, 12:15:59 AM
Chuck should win here...

But I'm rooting for Franklin. Always one of my favorite fighters and one of the classiest MMA guys.
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Post by: OptimoPeach on June 13, 2010, 12:28:16 AM
:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl

Say what you want about Mirko needing to hang it up, but I will never EVER get tired of watching Chuck get KTFO
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Post by: Stoney Mason on June 13, 2010, 12:29:22 AM
FUCK YEAH!!!!


ACE!!!
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Post by: Stoney Mason on June 13, 2010, 12:33:36 AM
Maybe they actually give Ace some respect and stop scheduling him in these half ass catch weights and last minute fights.

He's never gonna be the LHW champ but he deserves a bit more respect than they've showed him.
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Post by: OptimoPeach on June 13, 2010, 12:34:44 AM
Funny how it's always these shitty looking cards that end up being the best

edit: Yeah he's kinda been the redheaded stepchild ever since Anderson demolished him twice. He could at the very least be a consistent gatekeeper
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Post by: Stoney Mason on June 13, 2010, 12:36:58 AM
The sad bit for chuck is that he was actually looking pretty good until then. He did a takedown. He was using his kicks. I was kinda impressed.

But his chin is just gone. That didn't even look like an especially hard punch from Franklin but once it connected it was like Chuck had been hit with dynamite.

Despite all of Rogan's talk I doubt he is retiring. I still see a Chuck/Tito fight somewhere down the road.
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Post by: Stoney Mason on June 13, 2010, 01:00:28 AM
(http://i48.tinypic.com/2n1w0t2.gif)
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Post by: Bloodwake on June 13, 2010, 01:03:08 AM
Yeah, this ended up being a pretty good PPV. All the fights went to the third round (didn't watch the preliminaries) except for Franklin and Chuck, but that still was a good fight. Chuck looked good, he even broke Rich Franklin's arm with one of those kicks. Still, about the only other fight I would want to see from Chuck would be against Tito one more time.
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Post by: OptimoPeach on June 13, 2010, 01:09:54 AM
(http://i48.tinypic.com/2zheadv.jpg)
:lol

Man that lip is fucked
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Post by: OptimoPeach on June 13, 2010, 02:09:47 PM
Someone on Sherdog just brought up the possibility of Mirko vs Nogueira 2. I would actually want to see that.

I'd have no problem with the UFC keeping their over-the-hill legends around to fight each other if they didn't constantly make them the main events on PPV. They should do UFC: Senior Circuit cards on Spike
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Post by: Stoney Mason on June 13, 2010, 02:12:31 PM
The UFC is in a slightly weird position in that they have a lot of old ass fighters who can't contend for titles anymore but who are fan favorites from the "good old days" and people still like to see them fight. They almost could run a seniors circuit at least for the LHW and HW division.

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Post by: chronovore on June 13, 2010, 07:08:09 PM
Yeah, I never know if I'm cheering for Rich because he's a self-made talent, or because he's a smart, nice guy. Getting knocked out by The Spider isn't much of a knock against him, looking back now across Silva's record.
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Post by: Bloodwake on June 13, 2010, 07:24:24 PM
Yeah, I never know if I'm cheering for Rich because he's a self-made talent, or because he's a smart, nice guy. Getting knocked out by The Spider isn't much of a knock against him, looking back now across Silva's record.

No, it really isn't. It's Anderson Fucking Silva. If he's not dancing around like a dumbass he's usually the best fighter active right now.
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Post by: Stoney Mason on June 13, 2010, 07:29:02 PM
Rich is a really nice dude and a good fighter. The problem is the UFC won't let him fight at the weight he should be fighting at. He's just a really good gatekeeper at LHW. He won't beat the top guys in that division. And he's a little small for a LHW.

But he's a much better fighter at middleweight where he is a big middle-weight. He's probably top three in the UFC at middleweight but he can't fight Silva again and they don't want him beating up the up and comers in that division who can eventually fight Silva. So he's in a weird spot. He has to fight in a division he is less suited for because of UFC matchmaking.

Rich has lost to 4 dudes in his career. Anderson Silva, Lyoto Machida, Vitor Belfort, and Dan Henderson. And the Dan Henderson fight could have gone either way. That's not a bad list.
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Post by: chronovore on June 22, 2010, 04:16:22 AM
So just how badly is James Toney going to get his ass handed to him? I think Randy's only got to get him to the ground (likely not a problem) and lock in any kind of submission (perhaps a little less easy for Randy). The only way I see this going Toney's way is if Couture gets caught in the clinch, and even there I think Toney's going to have a career's worth of ingrained instincts working against him.
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Post by: Boogie on June 22, 2010, 04:22:55 AM
Ya, the clinch won't save Toney.  That's where Couture made a career out of eating people up and spitting them back out.
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Post by: OptimoPeach on June 22, 2010, 04:36:46 AM
Anyone that missed the WEC card on Sunday should try to catch a rerun or check out the fights on mma-core. Another one of those cards that looked kinda eh on paper but ended up being awesome. The Hominick/Jabouin fight was especially great. Hominick has come a long way from eking out a decision in a stand-up fight with Jorge Gurgel, no doubt thanks to Shawn Tompkins. The only fight I was dissatisfied with was the main event, and that was partly because it was marred by some terrible judging. But hey, these days it seems impossible to have an event without myopic judges or a bad stoppage, so what can you do
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Post by: Boogie on June 22, 2010, 04:44:11 AM
Ya, I caught the Hominick and Horodecki fights online.  Good stuff.

. Hominick has come a long way from eking out a decision in a stand-up fight with Jorge Gurgel, no doubt thanks to Shawn Tompkins.

Bit of an odd statement, since Hominick has always trained under Tompkins, going back at least six years before the Gurgel fight.  I think the Gurgel fight was just an off-night for Mark.
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Post by: OptimoPeach on June 22, 2010, 04:51:19 AM
Man I didn't think he hooked up with him until after his UFC days. I can't recall Tompkins being in his corner during the Gurgel fight, but it's been so long that I'm probably wrong.

Are there any Canadians that HAVEN'T trained under Tompkins at some point? I think he was cornering someone in every other fight on Sunday lol
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Post by: Boogie on June 22, 2010, 04:55:51 AM
Man I didn't think he hooked up with him until after his UFC days. I can't recall Tompkins being in his corner during the Gurgel fight, but it's been so long that I'm probably wrong.

Naw, Hominick has been with Tompkins his entire career.

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Are there any Canadians that HAVEN'T trained under Tompkins at some point?

Nope.  Hell, I've trained under Tompkins.  :smug
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Post by: OptimoPeach on June 22, 2010, 05:01:08 AM
:lol That's crazy!
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Post by: Boogie on June 22, 2010, 05:07:47 AM
:lol That's crazy!

Ya.  I started martial arts with Shawn, back when he was just teaching karate in a small town in southern Ontario.  He gradually got into kickboxing, then MMA.  So I trained karate and a bit of kickboxing under him for six years.  Then I went off to university, where I started BJJ, but during the summers I came back to my hometown and trained MMA at Shawn's London club with Horodecki, Hominick, and Stout.  This was just before Shawn made the move to the States full-time.

It's been about 3 years since I last trained with them all.  Never would have thought when I started karate at age 12 that my sensei would end up living in Las Vegas and training the likes of Dan Henderson, Randy Couture, Forrest Griffin, and Wanderlei Silva.  :lol
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Post by: chronovore on June 22, 2010, 11:29:57 AM
Badass.  :-*
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Post by: Skidmark on June 26, 2010, 03:08:21 AM
[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PjCuzvgV8Tk[/youtube]
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Post by: chronovore on June 26, 2010, 09:00:38 AM
What are the odds on Werdum at this point? I'm tempted to put money on him, just on the off chance that he wins, because 1000-to-1 payoffs are so few and far between?
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Post by: Stoney Mason on June 26, 2010, 10:11:48 AM
Not a great card tonight but Fedor is fighting.

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Main Card
Heavyweight bout:  Fedor Emelianenko vs.  Fabricio Werdum
Middleweight bout:  Cung Le vs.  Scott Smith
Women's Featherweight Championship bout:  Cristiane Santos(c) vs. Jan Finney
Lightweight bout:  Josh Thomson vs.  Pat Healy

Preliminary Card
Catchweight (175lb) bout:  Ron Keslar vs.  Chris Cope
Middleweight bout:  Yancy Medeiros vs.  Gareth Joseph
Lightweight bout:  Bobby Stack vs.  Derrick Burnsed
Welterweight bout:  Brett Bergmark vs.  Vagner Rocha
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Post by: cubicle47b on June 26, 2010, 10:18:19 AM
Cyborg versus Cuddles.  Wonder how that will go...
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Post by: Skidmark on June 26, 2010, 10:22:16 AM
What are the odds on Werdum at this point? I'm tempted to put money on him, just on the off chance that he wins, because 1000-to-1 payoffs are so few and far between?
I don't really know much about odds, I think stoney can help you with that.
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Post by: Stoney Mason on June 26, 2010, 10:27:50 AM

I don't gamble but the last line I saw was something like

Fedor Emelianenko -550         
Fabricio Werdum    +325     
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Post by: Stoney Mason on June 26, 2010, 10:56:55 PM
It was a foregone conclusion it was going to happen but jesus cyborg just murdered somebody.
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Post by: Stoney Mason on June 26, 2010, 11:27:23 PM
Pretty good night of fights for what looked like a bad card.
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Post by: Stoney Mason on June 26, 2010, 11:46:09 PM
Holy shit Werdum beat Fedor. Submission.
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Post by: Stoney Mason on June 26, 2010, 11:51:21 PM
I'm gonnna love hearing from all the Sherdog and GAF Fedor nuthuggers.

Not because this invalidates Fedor or his amazing reign. Everybody gets beat. And if they rematched I would still favor Fedor. Werdum just had excellent anticipation and was able to capitalize. 

Its just that those people were so fucking annoying.

This turned out to be a damn fine card. Maybe card of the year.
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Post by: CajoleJuice on June 26, 2010, 11:51:58 PM
My feed cut out and I missed it. :'(
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Post by: Stoney Mason on June 26, 2010, 11:53:42 PM
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CajoleJuice‎: *subscribes to Dana White's Twitter feed* *waits*
Twitter - 4 minutes ago
:lol
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Post by: Stoney Mason on June 26, 2010, 11:57:19 PM
lol. Reading that GAF thread is sweet. It's like somebody ran over their puppy.
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Post by: Stoney Mason on June 27, 2010, 12:07:20 AM
(http://i49.tinypic.com/okyud.gif)


http://twitter.com/danawhite/status/17139197135
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Post by: CajoleJuice on June 27, 2010, 12:26:19 AM
So I finally get to see it here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ZyzeQ6Arls#t=1m40s

That was really fucking dumb on Fedor's part. Wow.
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Post by: Stoney Mason on June 27, 2010, 12:30:11 AM
So I finally get to see it here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ZyzeQ6Arls#t=1m40s

That was really fucking dumb on Fedor's part. Wow.

It was a bad mistake but I think he just thought he was going to finish him right then and there. It happens. Everybody gets careless eventually. And Werdum was just set up perfectly. I'm not going to say it was lucky because dude has excellent bjj but if these guys fought 10 more times I would be doubtful that would be the final result many of those times.

Btw while you can knock Anderson Silva for some things this is why MMA fans are idiots for knocking him for not getting on the ground with people like Maia and Leites. Because that is what easily can happen if you are not careful.
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Post by: CajoleJuice on June 27, 2010, 12:32:24 AM
I totally agree with that regarding Silva. I think he got embarrassing in his last fight, but mostly I have zero problem with him and love watching him fight.

Also, you're right. Fedor kinda does that ALL the time. The guy is just relentless. This is the first time it's come back to bite him.
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Post by: Stoney Mason on June 27, 2010, 12:39:25 AM
Yeah it was kind of the best of both worlds for Werdum. He got hit and knocked down but it wasn't a very damaging hit. And the scramble after Fedor jumped in there was a perfect setup. A lot of people will try to spin this as being very damaging for the Fedor Legend. I kinda don't see it that way. I mean if he loses a few more times after this then yeah he is clearly on the decline, but this was just one of those things. He got careless and he got beat. Everybody gets beat in MMA. The only difference was that people thought those rules didn't exist for Fedor.
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Post by: pilonv1 on June 27, 2010, 01:06:04 AM
(http://i50.tinypic.com/8wiq34.jpg)

:rofl Sherdoggers suiciding
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Post by: OptimoPeach on June 27, 2010, 01:13:07 AM
Ugh

just UGH
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Post by: Boogie on June 27, 2010, 01:22:33 AM
Well fuck.
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Post by: pilonv1 on June 27, 2010, 02:02:03 AM
GOOD JON M1
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Post by: WrikaWrek on June 27, 2010, 08:23:33 AM
Wait what, am i still sleeping?

Didn't watch this because it was later and i mean...it's Fedor...he won't lose against some nobody.

He lost? What the fuck, he losT?


 :fbm
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Post by: Stoney Mason on June 27, 2010, 08:27:19 AM
While I certainly didn't expect him to win and fully expected Fedor to roll all over him, Werdum isn't a nobody at all.
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Post by: WrikaWrek on June 27, 2010, 08:37:27 AM
While I certainly didn't expect him to win and fully expected Fedor to roll all over him, Werdum isn't a nobody at all.

Next to the God of MMA? Yes he was.

Now Werdum shall be seen as the man who beat a god.
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Post by: Stoney Mason on June 27, 2010, 08:54:16 AM
While I certainly didn't expect him to win and fully expected Fedor to roll all over him, Werdum isn't a nobody at all.

Next to the God of MMA? Yes he was.

Now Werdum shall be seen as the man who beat a god.

Fedor's last 5 fights were against the following.

Brett Rogers
Andrei Arlovski
Tim Sylvia
Hong-Man Choi
Matt Lindland

All of which who if they beat him would have been considered nobody's. So if he was going to lose, he was going to lose to a "nobody" based on who he was fighting. A more appropriate observation would be maybe he should be fighting better people but that's a side debate.

Fabricio Werdum is a top notch BJJ guy with relatively weakish stand-up. He has beat Overeem, Fedor's brother, Gonzaga twice, etc.  So if the fight was going to go any way it was probably Werdum getting knocked out in the stand-up or Werdum submitting Fedor. Like I said, I'm not trying to pretend anybody was saying Werdum was going to win, but its a fight. And anything can happen in a multi-discipline combat sport where you can't be the best in everything. Fedor nailed all the foolish people imo with a great quote.

"The one who doesn't fall never stands up. It happened that people made me an idol. But everybody loses. I'm just a human being. And if it's God's will next fight, I'll win."

The thing to do is appreciate great fighters and respect how rare they lose. Not pretend they are unbeatable.

<Takes off rant hat>
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Post by: pilonv1 on June 27, 2010, 10:57:30 AM
Of course people lose in MMA. The issue here is that they've probably thrown away tens of millions of dollars by not having him fight in UFC.
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Post by: Boogie on June 27, 2010, 12:11:35 PM
 
Of course people lose in MMA. The issue here is that they've probably thrown away tens of millions of dollars by not having him fight in UFC.

ya the hilarious part of this for me is fedor consoling his entourage.

His M-1 groupies are going to cry themselves to sleep for a while now that they just lost all of their leverage for the millions they've been able to make off Fedor.

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Post by: WrikaWrek on June 27, 2010, 12:16:58 PM
Fedor really over committed on that one. He had him down, but he needed to pace it. He almost got caught, and instead of backing out he pushed. Even he thought he was invincible.
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Post by: pilonv1 on June 28, 2010, 02:12:54 AM
 
Of course people lose in MMA. The issue here is that they've probably thrown away tens of millions of dollars by not having him fight in UFC.

ya the hilarious part of this for me is fedor consoling his entourage.

His M-1 groupies are going to cry themselves to sleep for a while now that they just lost all of their leverage for the millions they've been able to make off Fedor.



He'll be lucky to get 50k/50k to win from Dana now. No value whatsoever.
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Post by: Boogie on June 28, 2010, 02:17:27 AM
 
Of course people lose in MMA. The issue here is that they've probably thrown away tens of millions of dollars by not having him fight in UFC.

ya the hilarious part of this for me is fedor consoling his entourage.

His M-1 groupies are going to cry themselves to sleep for a while now that they just lost all of their leverage for the millions they've been able to make off Fedor.



He'll be lucky to get 50k/50k to win from Dana now. No value whatsoever.

I wouldn't go that far, but he sure as fuck isn't getting any potential $5 million per fight deals.
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Post by: pilonv1 on June 28, 2010, 02:38:40 AM
This is seriously why you don't fuck around making fights. If you have a money making fight MAKE IT NOW
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Post by: chronovore on June 28, 2010, 11:30:31 AM
 
Of course people lose in MMA. The issue here is that they've probably thrown away tens of millions of dollars by not having him fight in UFC.

ya the hilarious part of this for me is fedor consoling his entourage.

His M-1 groupies are going to cry themselves to sleep for a while now that they just lost all of their leverage for the millions they've been able to make off Fedor.

Yeah, this is likely the biggest thing right now. I feel like Fedor is just doing his thing, and unfortunately believing what his crew tells him. Meanwhile they're working the whole entourage scenario to its hilt. And now the whole "UNDEFEATED EXCEPT FOR THAT ONE LOSS THAT MAYBE WASN'T EVEN A LOSS"  -- yeah, yeah. Sit down. He's got a real loss now.
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Post by: Stoney Mason on June 28, 2010, 11:33:12 AM
Honestly it sort of depends on what motivates this guy. And I think if it was purely money he would have taken the original UFC deal. I agree that he has lost a lot of bargaining power if he ever wanted to go to the UFC but I don't believe that was ever his aim.

It's not like he's broke. I'm sure he's a multi-millionaire many times over. It's more about whether M-1 has any actual longevity once he is gone and whether he can make money via that route even after he retires. I think that is what is questionable.
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Post by: Stoney Mason on July 01, 2010, 12:10:09 PM
http://www.sherdog.com/news/news/Strikeforce-Releases-Shields-Shields-Wants-Shot-at-Anderson-Silva-25435
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Post by: WrikaWrek on July 01, 2010, 12:18:18 PM
Goddammit, just let Silva move up. These bitches are keeping him down with all these challenges.

You guys ain't good enough!
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Post by: Stoney Mason on July 03, 2010, 10:06:01 AM
Card tonight.

Quote
Heavyweight Championship bout:  Brock Lesnar (c) vs  Shane Carwin (ic)
Middleweight bout:  Yoshihiro Akiyama vs.  Chris Leben
Welterweight bout:  Chris Lytle vs.  Matt Brown
Light Heavyweight bout:  Krzysztof Soszynski vs.  Stephan Bonnar
Lightweight bout:  George Sotiropoulos vs.  Kurt Pellegrino[1]

[edit]Preliminary card (Spike TV)
Heavyweight bout:  Brendan Schaub vs.  Chris Tuchscherer
Light Heavyweight bout:  Seth Petruzelli vs.  Ricardo Romero

Surprised a bit to see how many pros picked Carwin

http://www.sherdog.com/news/articles/3/Pros-Pick-Lesnar-vs-Carwin-25450
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Post by: WrikaWrek on July 03, 2010, 11:38:41 AM
If Brock can get Carwin in the ground right away, and just handle him with some GNP i think he will take this. But if he lets Carwin hit him, i don't care how big and athletic Lesnar is, Carwin will just knock him out.
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Post by: OptimoPeach on July 03, 2010, 08:12:48 PM
Carwin's gonna git raped  :(
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Post by: WrikaWrek on July 03, 2010, 08:35:21 PM
Highly highly doubt it.
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Post by: Stoney Mason on July 03, 2010, 08:58:49 PM
Anything can happen. And I give Carwin's a puncher chance. But I gotta go with Brock.
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Post by: OptimoPeach on July 03, 2010, 09:30:19 PM
Poor Seth. He looked way better than I thought he would, but the ending was about how I imagined it going.

My picks:

Heavyweight Championship bout:  Brock Lesnar (c) vs  Shane Carwin (ic)
Middleweight bout:  Yoshihiro Akiyama vs.  Chris Leben
Welterweight bout:  Chris Lytle vs.  Matt Brown
Light Heavyweight bout:  Krzysztof Soszynski vs.  Stephan Bonnar
Lightweight bout:  George Sotiropoulos vs.  Kurt Pellegrino

Preliminary card
Heavyweight bout:  Brendan Schaub vs.  Chris Tuchscherer

I'm least decided on Lytle/Brown
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Post by: OptimoPeach on July 03, 2010, 09:42:23 PM
(http://i50.tinypic.com/2ilev5e.gif)

Sexyama making the ring girls orgasm at the weigh-ins yesterday in case anyone missed it
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Post by: Stoney Mason on July 03, 2010, 09:57:31 PM
Hell of a slam right there.
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Post by: OptimoPeach on July 03, 2010, 10:11:05 PM
Yeah that was sweet.

Pellegrino is gonna lose a limb here
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Post by: OptimoPeach on July 03, 2010, 10:32:28 PM
I'm gonna lol so hard if they score that a 10-8 and it's a draw.

edit: Thank god. Still shitty scoring, but at least they got the winner right
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Post by: OptimoPeach on July 03, 2010, 10:57:36 PM
Goddamn Pollacks suck at everything.

My Veetle stream died but I found another. If anyone needs one: http://xxxpremium.blogspot.com/2010/05/veetle-2.html
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Post by: CajoleJuice on July 03, 2010, 10:58:19 PM
Yeah my stream died but then it came back. I'll keep that link in mind if the stream dies once the Lesnar fight starts like it did with Fedor.
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Post by: OptimoPeach on July 03, 2010, 11:06:45 PM
Ha yeah it's nice having more than one Veetle option. :bow Veetle :bow2
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Post by: WrikaWrek on July 03, 2010, 11:20:17 PM
Says its off air.....

Isn't it supposed to have started by now?
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Post by: OptimoPeach on July 03, 2010, 11:27:19 PM
It started over an hour ago. Keep hitting the power button if it says it's off, or if you have to just get a shitty stream from atdhe.net or p2p4u.net
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Post by: CajoleJuice on July 03, 2010, 11:42:06 PM
Holy shitttttttttttt at that round
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Post by: Stoney Mason on July 03, 2010, 11:45:26 PM
No cardio at all but especially none for Akiyama. 2nd fight in a row he gassed in badly.
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Post by: CajoleJuice on July 03, 2010, 11:49:41 PM
They were pummeling each other pretty badly, though. Leben pulled that out of his ass. Entertaining fight.
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Post by: OptimoPeach on July 03, 2010, 11:51:20 PM
WTF

Chris Leben submitting Akiyama was about as unlikely as Fedor losing to Werdum.

edit: I don't remember Akiyama gasing like that against Belcher -- or at least certainly not as soon. But then that was a year ago, so maybe I'm wrong.
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Post by: Stoney Mason on July 03, 2010, 11:51:45 PM
They were pummeling each other pretty badly, though. Leben pulled that out of his ass. Entertaining fight.

True. I just kinda hate to see fighters gas that badly as all technique tends to go out the window. And Akiyama is really bad on that count. Good fight though. Good card and we haven't even got to the main event yet. Leben is absolutely silly trying to call out Silva though. Dude already whipped his ass and would have dusted the Leben of tonight too.  

EDIT: I now realize Leben was probably calling out Wanderlei Silva rather than Anderson Silva. My bad.
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Post by: Stoney Mason on July 03, 2010, 11:54:39 PM
Anthony Kiedis looks like an old man now.


I'm old and sad.  :'(
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Post by: Stoney Mason on July 04, 2010, 12:02:55 AM
Fuck my stream went down. Anyone got one?
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Post by: CajoleJuice on July 04, 2010, 12:03:40 AM
http://www.atdhe.net/20040/watch-ufc-116-lesnar-vs-carwin
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Post by: WrikaWrek on July 04, 2010, 12:10:57 AM
No way Lesnar comes back from that.
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Post by: WrikaWrek on July 04, 2010, 12:12:26 AM
Can't believe he's still conscious.
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Post by: Stoney Mason on July 04, 2010, 12:13:49 AM
Great job of not stopping that.
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Post by: CajoleJuice on July 04, 2010, 12:15:15 AM
Holy jesus, Lesnar is an animal. What Wrika said.
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Post by: WrikaWrek on July 04, 2010, 12:17:08 AM
Bow motherfuckers.

BOW
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Post by: Stoney Mason on July 04, 2010, 12:17:59 AM
Holy Shit.
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Post by: Stoney Mason on July 04, 2010, 12:18:40 AM
Utterly amazing. Card of the year.
 :bow :bow2
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Post by: CajoleJuice on July 04, 2010, 12:19:05 AM
WOW

Lesnar is not fucking human.
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Post by: WrikaWrek on July 04, 2010, 12:19:14 AM
How strong is this asshole, goddamn. He's like the Hulk.

He took a beating, and still had the monstrous strength to choke Carwin.
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Post by: OptimoPeach on July 04, 2010, 12:19:26 AM
Damn that was nice
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Post by: Stoney Mason on July 04, 2010, 12:23:32 AM
That was some amazing shit. I won't lie. That was one of the most intense matches I've ever seen.
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Post by: pilonv1 on July 04, 2010, 12:25:01 AM
LESNAR IS A FUCKING MONSTER

Cain looks shit scared :lol

Best UFC show I've seen in YEARS. Almost as good as the WEC PPV this year.

Leben v Wanderlei could be amazing
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Post by: WrikaWrek on July 04, 2010, 12:28:11 AM
Well now Velazquez knows the plan.

Lay and pray baby, lay and pray. If a dude with the power of mjolnir in his hands can't finish the hulk, don't expect your puny human hands to be able to do it.

You just gotta...pray son.
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Post by: Boogie on July 04, 2010, 12:46:22 AM
Amazing fight!

Well now Velazquez knows the plan.

Lay and pray baby, lay and pray. If a dude with the power of mjolnir in his hands can't finish the hulk, don't expect your puny human hands to be able to do it.

You just gotta...pray son.

On the contrary.  What I saw was that Brock reacts ridiculously poorly to getting hit.  What failed Carwin was his gas tank, as he punched himself out.

We know Velasquez has good cardio, and that his striking technique is very good, crisp and fast.  Cain's path to victory very well could be in outstriking Brock, if he can shrug off a few takedowns.

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Post by: Stoney Mason on July 04, 2010, 12:51:50 AM
It's amazing to think that a couple of years ago the heavyweight division was a real albatross for the UFC and now their most lucrative fights coming up are probably in that division.
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Post by: Boogie on July 04, 2010, 12:55:38 AM
It's amazing to think that a couple of years ago the heavyweight division was a real albatross for the UFC and now their most lucrative fights coming up are probably in that division.

Indeed.

Though we probably wouldn't have been saying that if Carwin won tonight.  :lol
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Post by: Stoney Mason on July 04, 2010, 01:30:16 AM
Quote
In his first appearance in almost a year, Brock Lesnar left the Octagon with the undisputed heavyweight championship around his waist and hefty lump of money in his bank account.

Lesnar submitted the previously unbeaten Shane Carwin with a second-round arm-triangle choke in the UFC 116 “Lesnar vs. Carwin” main event on Saturday at the MGM Grand Garden Arena in Las Vegas. The victory, his first since an intestinal disorder nearly ended his career in late 2009, earned him a $75,000 “Submission of the Night” bonus.

Carwin had Lesnar on the run in the first round, after his heavy hands put the champion on his back. The 6-foot-3, 265-pound former World Wrestling Entertainment superstar weathered the attack and tired Carwin in the process. At the start of round two, it became clear Carwin had little left in the gas tank.

Meanwhile, Chris Leben and Yoshihiro Akiyama pocketed a $75,000 bonus for “Fight of the Night,” as did “The Ultimate Fighter” Season 1 finalist Stephan Bonnar and Krzysztof Soszynski. Leben finished Akiyama with a third-round triangle choke in the co-headliner. Bonnar put away Soszynski with a second-round knee strike and follow up punches in a featured light heavyweight attraction.

Finally, Carwin’s Grudge Training Center teammate, Gerald Harris, banked a $75,000 bonus for “Knockout of the Night” after he rendered Dave Branch unconscious with a powerful slam in the third round. Harris, 30, has rattled off 10 consecutive victories, nine of them finishes.
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Post by: Smooth Groove on July 04, 2010, 01:32:53 AM
"This isn't about me tonight," said Lesnar, who made his first appearance in nearly a year. "This is about my family. This is about my doctors. This is about my training partners, my training staff. I am blessed by God. Ladies and gentlemen, I stand before you a humble champion. And I'm still the toughest SOB around, baby."

What a narcissistic idiot.  I hope someone knocks him the fuck out soon. 
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Post by: pilonv1 on July 04, 2010, 02:30:19 AM
(http://img682.imageshack.us/img682/9002/hahaq.jpg)
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Post by: Smooth Groove on July 04, 2010, 02:34:40 AM
Doesn't change the fact that he got knocked out by an old and crippled Steve Austin. 

Once a jobber, always a jobber.  :patel
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Post by: pilonv1 on July 04, 2010, 02:53:41 AM
Dude Brock F-5d a shark
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Post by: chronovore on July 04, 2010, 08:58:06 AM
Man, that card absolutely did not go as I'd thought. I'd have lost on almost every fight, except for betting on Lytle just because I like him.
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Post by: OptimoPeach on July 04, 2010, 05:24:26 PM
We know Velasquez has good cardio, and that his striking technique is very good, crisp and fast.  Cain's path to victory very well could be in outstriking Brock, if he can shrug off a few takedowns.


Yep. If Cain can avoid the mat and get Lesnar running scared a la Kalib Starnes like Carwin did, Cain is gonna beat that ass. I was pretty surprised at how mediocre Brock's striking defense still is. Guess that's just not something he's gonna excel it
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Post by: OptimoPeach on July 04, 2010, 05:27:57 PM
This turned out to be a damn fine card. Maybe card of the year.
Maybe for the UFC, but I don't think it trumps WEC 49.
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Post by: Skidmark on July 06, 2010, 09:47:00 AM
[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L4Spg2vn-XM[/youtube]

best interview ever  :lol
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Post by: chronovore on July 07, 2010, 01:28:12 AM
That is the first MMA interview where I've laughed out loud. The man's got a good attitude.

Randy's going to destroy him, but hey.
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Post by: WrikaWrek on July 07, 2010, 07:58:34 AM
I don't understand half of what he says.
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Post by: chronovore on July 07, 2010, 08:22:31 AM
I don't understand half of what he says.
That's because you don't speak jive.
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Neither did I.  :-\
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Post by: OptimoPeach on July 10, 2010, 05:27:36 PM
(http://imgur.com/gtM5D.jpg)

:lol
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Post by: Stoney Mason on August 01, 2010, 03:03:03 PM
UFC card tonight free on versus.


Quote
Preliminary card
Middleweight bout:  Rob Kimmons vs.  Steve Steinbeiss
Lightweight bout:  Darren Elkins vs.  Charles Oliveira
Middleweight bout:  Brian Stann vs.  Mike Massenzio
Light Heavyweight bout:  James Irvin vs.  Igor Pokrajac
Catchweight (172 lb) bout:  DaMarques Johnson vs.  Matthew Riddle
Lightweight bout:  Paul Kelly vs.  Jacob Volkmann

Main card
Lightweight bout:  Tyson Griffin vs.  Takanori Gomi
Welterweight bout:  John Howard vs.  Jake Ellenberger
Middleweight bout:  Mark Muñoz vs.  Yushin Okami
Light Heavyweight bout:  Jon Jones vs.  Vladimir Matyushenko
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Post by: chronovore on August 01, 2010, 09:24:14 PM
Holy hell, Gomi's fight didn't go as I expected.
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Post by: chronovore on August 01, 2010, 10:57:12 PM
It looked like Munoz took the 2nd round and Okami was clearly dominant in the 3rd. I bet both fighters wish they'd turned it up a little more in the first. Does Okami's ground game look that bad compared to Munoz'?
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Post by: Stoney Mason on August 07, 2010, 12:15:48 PM
tonight

Quote
Preliminary card
Welterweight bout:  Ben Saunders vs.  Dennis Hallman
Heavyweight bout:  Stefan Struve vs.  Christian Morecraft
Welterweight bout:  Johny Hendricks vs.  Charlie Brenneman
Light Heavyweight bout:  Tim Boetsch vs.  Todd Brown
Light Heavyweight bout:  Phil Davis vs.  Rodney Wallace
Welterweight bout:  Dustin Hazelett vs.  Rick Story
Main card
Heavyweight bout:  Roy Nelson vs.  Junior dos Santos
Welterweight bout:  Matt Hughes vs.  Ricardo Almeida
Lightweight bout:  Clay Guida vs.  Rafael dos Anjos
Catchweight bout (171.5 Ibs):  Jon Fitch vs.  Thiago Alves
Middleweight Championship bout:  Anderson Silva (c) vs.  Chael Sonnen
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Post by: Bloodwake on August 07, 2010, 02:34:53 PM
Either Anderson Silva knees the fuck out of Sonnen's face in the first ten seconds, or we get five rounds of the Silva Dancing Clinic. Either way, Silva wins.
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Post by: E-DuB on August 07, 2010, 03:55:03 PM
I really don't care who wins the Silva fight, I just want to see a fight and no bullshit
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Post by: Stoney Mason on August 07, 2010, 09:48:45 PM
I detest Sonnen which is rare for me when it comes to fighters. I hope Silva crushes him tonight.
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Post by: chronovore on August 07, 2010, 10:17:31 PM
Silva's deadly, and Sonnen's got a big mouth. I don't think his expectations are realistic, but after the weird showboating and rules-lawyering (win 3 rounds, coast 2), I'm hoping to see Silva ousted.
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Post by: Stoney Mason on August 07, 2010, 10:39:56 PM
I admit it. If there was one dude I would be gay for it would be Randy Couture. Dude always looks like a pimp.
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Post by: E-DuB on August 07, 2010, 11:28:32 PM
Man Clay has some crazy energy :lol
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Post by: Stoney Mason on August 07, 2010, 11:50:26 PM
Please beat fitch Alves. I know he's a good fighter but he's the most boring fighter on the planet.
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Post by: Stoney Mason on August 08, 2010, 12:06:43 AM
Alves needs to move up a weight class. He can't beat Fitch. He can't beat GSP. And he struggles to make weight.
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Post by: chronovore on August 08, 2010, 12:10:17 AM
Alves seriously looks like he's in the wrong weightclass. I mean, even when he does make weight, he looks like he showed up at the wrong fight.
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Post by: Stoney Mason on August 08, 2010, 12:23:17 AM
Good start Sonnen
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Post by: Stoney Mason on August 08, 2010, 12:25:23 AM
Amazing first round to Sonnen. You can't take that away from him.
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Post by: Bloodwake on August 08, 2010, 12:25:46 AM
HOLY SHIT THIS IS A FIGHT
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Post by: Stoney Mason on August 08, 2010, 12:29:30 AM
Silva is in legit trouble. Olympic level wrestler here.
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Post by: Stoney Mason on August 08, 2010, 12:34:09 AM
Silva is going to lose this fight. He can't stop the takedown. He is tired. Sonnen isn't.

Gotta give credit to Sonnen.
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Post by: Stoney Mason on August 08, 2010, 12:43:43 AM
Stunning. Complete domination. But honestly you could see it coming in the second round.
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Post by: Stoney Mason on August 08, 2010, 12:46:57 AM
I hate Chael Sonnen as a human being but there was no doubt about this one. He completely decimated Silva in this one. He talked the shit and he backed it up. That's what you are supposed to do. 

 :'(
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Post by: Stoney Mason on August 08, 2010, 12:49:41 AM
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Post by: E-DuB on August 08, 2010, 12:51:45 AM
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yeah what he said :lol
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Post by: Bloodwake on August 08, 2010, 12:55:06 AM
What a fucking fight. Holy mother fuck.
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Post by: E-DuB on August 08, 2010, 12:56:29 AM
This card delivered
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Post by: Stoney Mason on August 08, 2010, 12:57:18 AM
Sonnen only helped himself with this fight. Even with the loss. There will be a rematch at some point even if it isn't the very next fight. He performed better and let's be honest here. He dominated the fight like very few thought he could or would. Sonnen is known for letting himself get caught in subs and the name of the game is to win and he didn't but honestly he's a much bigger draw now than he ever was. He can actually make real money and the eventual rematch is going to be a big time money fight.

Dana White can do no wrong. Everything he touches turns to money.
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Post by: Stoney Mason on August 08, 2010, 01:06:26 AM
Man now I wish I owned Undisputed 2010. I feel like playing a UFC videogame now.
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Post by: Stoney Mason on August 08, 2010, 01:42:50 AM
One final comment before I go to bed. Even though Sonnen gets a lot of respect from me for this fight tonight he needs to stop that bs I didn't tap kinda shit he does. If you tap fucking tap. Don't try to pull some half bull shit and then keep fighting as if you didn't tap. That's how people get hurt.
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Post by: Boogie on August 08, 2010, 10:06:25 PM
(http://i36.tinypic.com/2vn2muq.jpg)
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Post by: OptimoPeach on August 08, 2010, 10:35:47 PM
Stoney's string of posts during the fight pretty much sums up my series of reactions. The rematch will be interesting.
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Post by: CajoleJuice on August 08, 2010, 11:21:02 PM
that was the most amazing fucking shit i have ever seen

oh my fucking god

silva > fedor
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Post by: OptimoPeach on August 09, 2010, 12:39:14 AM
It was pretty entertaining thinking about what turmoil in the P4P rankings was going to be caused by Chael's victory
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Post by: OptimoPeach on August 09, 2010, 12:52:20 AM
Also I pretty much lost my mind at the end of the Hughes fight. I was in mid-sip when he knocked down Almeida, so I ended up spitting beer all over my t-shirt in my yelling OHHH SHIT OHHH OHHHHHHHHH OH FUCK like a distinguished mentally-challenged fellow
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Post by: Boogie on August 09, 2010, 08:24:43 PM
Notwithstanding whatever effects Silva's injury had on his performance, I want to see GSP/Silva more than ever now.  GSP sure as fuck ain't getting triangled.
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Post by: CajoleJuice on August 09, 2010, 08:31:57 PM
"According to CompuStrike, in his first 11 UFC fights, Silva was hit 208 times. Sonnen hit him a total of 289 times."

LOL
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Post by: Boogie on August 09, 2010, 08:34:46 PM
"According to CompuStrike, in his first 11 UFC fights, Silva was hit 208 times. Sonnen hit him a total of 289 times."

LOL

Most insane comeback ever.  Tops Fedor/Fujita, Fedor/Randleman, and Nog/Crocop for sure.
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Post by: pilonv1 on August 10, 2010, 07:28:25 AM
SILVA IS GOD :bow2
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Post by: pilonv1 on August 10, 2010, 07:35:11 AM
(http://i34.tinypic.com/amva09.gif)
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Post by: Stoney Mason on August 21, 2010, 10:03:46 PM
Forgot to mention it which kinds of shows my low interest level but there is a strikeforce showtime card on right now.

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Light Heavyweight Championship bout:  Muhammed Lawal (c) vs.  Rafael Cavalcante
Middleweight Championship bout:  Ronaldo Souza vs.  Tim Kennedy
Lightweight bout:  KJ Noons vs.  Jorge Gurgel
Heavyweight bout:  Bobby Lashley vs.  Chad Griggs
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Post by: ManaByte on August 21, 2010, 11:47:15 PM
Tickets for UFC 121 just went on sale. May end up going.
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Post by: Stoney Mason on August 22, 2010, 12:09:16 AM
lol

Lashley and Lawal lost last night.


Strikeforce has almost no marketable fighters at this point.
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Post by: OptimoPeach on August 22, 2010, 12:12:24 AM
MOOOOOOOOO :'(

He'll be back. Mousasi has a better shot at getting the belt back now too. I'm interested to see how they sort out the contender picture
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Post by: Boogie on August 28, 2010, 02:01:54 AM
As much as I hope and pray for Edgar to strike with his lightning twice, I don't see it happening.

Nonetheless, it shall be satisfying to see Couture pound Toney out, though I foresee an "Art Jimmerson" moment where Toney punks out and taps as soon as he gets taken down.

Really hyped for Florian/Maynard though.  Cheering for Florian.  I think he's the clear #2 at lightweight, just not sure he has what it takes to beat BJ.

also:

[youtube=560,345]vS8HQ74mfbg[/youtube]

:rock :rock :rock
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Post by: Boogie on August 28, 2010, 02:06:33 AM
also:  can't believe how ridiculously pudgy Toney came in.  Other than Roy Nelson, I don't think I've EVER seen someone with that big a belly come in for a UFC fight in the past ten years.



On another note, I don't believe I made any comment on the news that Ontario would be sanctioning MMA next year.  It's been a well known fact that in all of North America, Toronto has been the #1 per capita market for MMA.  And if, next year, the UFC comes to the Skydome with GSP headlining, to sell out over 60k seats, I will be buying myself floor seats for the event.  Can't wait. :rock
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Post by: chronovore on August 28, 2010, 04:37:40 AM
I'm praying Toney doesn't land something nasty early on. Randy's got a good chin, and he probably hasn't been over-training, but that phrase "a puncher's chance" keeps ringing in my ears.
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Post by: Stoney Mason on August 28, 2010, 12:29:37 PM
Not overly interested in this card. Especially the Toney Couture fight which seems to only function as a point of pride with MMA fans for some reason. Completely meaningless that one is although as much as I love Randy and think Toney is in over his head, a part of me wants Toney to win just to see the meltdowns even though that is unlikely to happen.

If Penn just actually tries here and secure a few takedowns he should win easily but lately Penn just wants to box which is how he got the first fight stolen from him. Flordian and Maynard is a good fight. I really like KenFlo. Anyway here is the card.

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Preliminary card
Welterweight bout:  Mike Pierce vs.  Amilcar Alves
Welterweight bout:  Nick Osipczak vs.  Greg Soto
Middleweight bout:  Dan Miller vs.  John Salter
Preliminary card (Spike TV)
Lightweight bout:  Andre Winner vs.  Nik Lentz
Lightweight bout:  Joe Lauzon vs.  Gabe Ruediger
Main card
Welterweight bout:  Nate Diaz vs.  Marcus Davis
Lightweight bout:  Kenny Florian vs.  Gray Maynard
Middleweight bout:  Demian Maia vs.  Mario Miranda
Heavyweight bout:  Randy Couture vs.  James Toney
Lightweight Championship bout:  Frankie Edgar vs.  B.J. Penn
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Post by: Stoney Mason on August 28, 2010, 10:14:11 PM
I can't believe Nate Diaz has gone up in weight class. Dude is like a stick. He's not going to be able to beat the big top 170 guys.
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Post by: ManaByte on August 28, 2010, 10:43:36 PM
(http://a.yfrog.com/img163/2460/boxv.jpg)
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Post by: Stoney Mason on August 28, 2010, 11:05:03 PM
sigh. Kenflo lost to the boring wrestler. Maynard deserves it but I just kinda sometimes wish the ocatagon was bigger so the cage and putting a person on it and dragging them down wasn't the biggest factor in a fight. But it is what it is.
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Post by: chronovore on August 28, 2010, 11:38:22 PM
(http://a.yfrog.com/img163/2460/boxv.jpg)
So Chuck can only score outside the cage now?
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Post by: Stoney Mason on August 28, 2010, 11:42:54 PM
here comes the freakshow fight. Supposedly Toney is getting a million bucks for this.
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Post by: Stoney Mason on August 28, 2010, 11:55:10 PM
And that was just as pointless as I thought it would be. No more of these bullshit fights please.
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Post by: Stoney Mason on August 29, 2010, 12:25:02 AM
I can't believe BJ can't take this little guy down.
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Post by: Stoney Mason on August 29, 2010, 12:28:00 AM
BJ is gonna lose this fight in the exact same way he did the first one. It's the same fight again.
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Post by: WrikaWrek on August 29, 2010, 12:30:19 AM
I don't understand how dumb BJ is.

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Post by: Stoney Mason on August 29, 2010, 12:38:12 AM
BJ had such a shitty gameplan. He should have been trying to take him down all fight. I guess he's scared to do it because of his poor cardio.
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Post by: WrikaWrek on August 29, 2010, 12:39:24 AM
It's over, Penn tried in the last round though!
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Post by: Stoney Mason on August 29, 2010, 12:42:30 AM
I don't think BJ won a round.

edit: And all three judges agreed.
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Post by: Bloodwake on August 30, 2010, 03:39:29 PM
Jesus, BJ Penn.

He didn't even look like he was interested in fighting Edgar.
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Post by: chronovore on August 30, 2010, 07:04:33 PM
I feel like a wave of UFC legends and heroes has peaked, and we need to be looking for whomever is next. This isn't like the WWE where they can trot out grandpa Ric Flair and have the fans still go wild.

Penn's unstoppable nature has been stopped. Couture is unlikely to make heavyweight champion again; I don't see him doing well against Carwin or Lesnar. Liddell is going to get killed if he goes out again. Anderson Silva will probably go down in the next fight if he goes up against someone who both has a ground game -and- can avoid subs.
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Post by: WrikaWrek on August 30, 2010, 07:42:22 PM
It's time for Jon Jones, Aldo, etc
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Post by: Stoney Mason on August 30, 2010, 07:46:44 PM
I think things looks very good. You have a group of young heavyweights who are emerging or are contenders. You have Brock Lesnar as a monster in the heavyweight division.

GSP controls the welterweight division.

LHW is a bit muddled right now but then that's only because the annointed king in Machida was disposed but you still have a bunch of relatively good guys in the mix.

Anderson Silva has some competition for probably the first time in years in the UFC which is a good thing.

Lightweights have a new champ who say what you will about him, he won't coast like BJ was prone to do. Even if he loses his next fight against maynard.

I consider people like Couture, Liddell, Ortiz, etc part of the seniors circuit. They will always be popular and people will always want to see them fight whether they are relevant or not.

If anything I'd like to get away from anointing people as the next big thing and let it come when it comes. 

My only issue currently with the UFC is the dominance of grapplers. I would like to see some changes made to even the playing field a bit but I'm not exactly sure what those changes would be. I don't want to get rid of wrestling or demean it. But currently I sort of feel that grapplers are overwhelming the product. But that might strictly be a preference thing on my part.
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Post by: chronovore on August 30, 2010, 09:33:28 PM
Yeah, it's nutty to see the effect wrestlers' ground game has had on the sport. Not quite as unbalancing as BJJ used to be (when no-one else was doing BJJ, it seemed to be unstoppable), but in terms of the footwork, min/maxing their weight advantage, and cardio, wrestlers style of training seems very effective for the regimented weight-classes of UFC.

It's sad, I'm one of those dojo-crybabies who prefers to see honorable behavior. KenFlo is awesome, GSP is a hero, Mir is one of my favs... I enjoy seeing fighters give proper respect to each other, win or lose. Wrestling seems to generate the kind of permanent hard-on, go-bro, homophobic attitude that really gets on my nerves. Then again, I can point to some pretty traumatizing times in high school wrestling that have soured me on the athletes who prefer that particular discipline.
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Post by: Stoney Mason on August 31, 2010, 11:48:18 AM
There are some grapplers who really work to do damage. But I just get bored when I see some grapplers who basically can control their opposition but don't end up inflicting any real damage. Turns matches into wrestling exhibitions.

But maybe this is to be expected. There are so many great wrestling programs especially in the united states and kids who go into wrestling tend to do it from a relatively early age and progress all the way up to college. So they legit have years of training. In a full body combat sport where your back isn't too far away from a cage, it just seems like wrestling is the best base for controlling an opponent. I know others would say well people just need to learn to stop the takedown or learn wrestling and use it in reverse or work their own discipline but easier said than done in many cases.
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Post by: chronovore on August 31, 2010, 06:34:03 PM
Yeah, there's that too, fer shure. It pleases no-one. You see a lot of people whining about lay-n-pray tactics, even from fighters who are pretty damned dynamic.
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Post by: pilonv1 on September 02, 2010, 11:41:37 PM
Jon Fitch should be publicly stoned and hung. He's terrible
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Post by: Boogie on September 03, 2010, 07:11:40 AM
Jon Fitch should be publicly stoned and hung. He's terrible

Just have GSP give him another shitkicking.  Same effect.
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Post by: chronovore on September 03, 2010, 07:36:13 AM
I go back and re-watch PRIDE, I gotta say, there is a lot of great setup and direction, but I think most MMA fans who say it was better than the UFC is now are suffering from acute nostalgia.
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Post by: OptimoPeach on September 03, 2010, 09:32:39 AM
I think the impact of the big fights the UFC puts on these days is sorta lessened by the fact that we're spoiled with all the MMA we have to watch now. Bellator, UFC, WEC, Strikeforce, DREAM, and Sengoku all have regular cards ranging from okay to great. I didn't start seriously following the sport until the twilight of PRIDE, but looking back at some of those massive events they were putting on (Shockwave 2004, Bushido 9, Final Conflict 2005, etc) I can understand why some people might feel that way
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Post by: chronovore on September 04, 2010, 09:40:25 AM
I agree, "looking back," they're pretty incredible. It's amazing what they were doing at the time. But people who are claiming that the fights themselves were better than what we get at UFC PPV level now are just viewing the past through rose-colored glasses.

I'd say if there's anything that was more interesting then, was that the sport had not evolved as much into its own discipline then. When it was mostly a test of one martial discipline against another, sumo vs. karate, ninjitsu vs. kung fu, boxing vs. pencak silat, and the Gracies were able run roughshod over everyone because BJJ was unknown.

Now that there are more rigorous rules, like strikes against the crown or back of head or spine, no slamming an opponent on his head (Sorry, Cote!), and everyone is operating with -some- level of understanding of stand-up, ground, and submission games, there's not as much chance of seeing a boxer -desperately- trying to avoid going to ground. Anymore, it seems like the new trend is the dominance of the amateur wrestler's ground game, even as their strength rarely seems to prove out in submission wins.
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Post by: chronovore on September 06, 2010, 06:16:37 AM
However, I would like to put an exception in for any Shogun Rua fight. Holy hells, the man was on fire. Never a dull moment.
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Post by: chronovore on September 07, 2010, 03:22:10 AM
What is the deal with Brazil and MMA, anyway?

I know BJJ is a strong component of MMA, but BJJ is based off judo, but if there was ever supposed to be an advantage in early exposure to a grappling sport, it seems like Japan should be making a stronger showing in the world stage.

I guess the presence of the gi limits the applicability of the judo commonly learned here, but it's not like it cannot be overcome with continued training. There are -so- many Brazilians in the sport, it's just surprising to me, I guess.
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Post by: Stoney Mason on September 07, 2010, 12:38:32 PM
What is the deal with Brazil and MMA, anyway?

I know BJJ is a strong component of MMA, but BJJ is based off judo, but if there was ever supposed to be an advantage in early exposure to a grappling sport, it seems like Japan should be making a stronger showing in the world stage.

I guess the presence of the gi limits the applicability of the judo commonly learned here, but it's not like it cannot be overcome with continued training. There are -so- many Brazilians in the sport, it's just surprising to me, I guess.

I think it has to do with simply the dominance and influence of the gracie's

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitsuyo_Maeda
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carlos_Gracie
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Post by: Stoney Mason on September 15, 2010, 11:17:26 AM
Free card tonight on spike.


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Preliminary card
Welterweight bout:  Brian Foster vs.  Forrest Petz
Welterweight bout:  Anthony Waldburger vs.  David Mitchell
Middleweight bout:  Rich Attonito vs.  Rafael Natal
Middleweight bout:  Tomasz Drwal vs.  Dave Branch
Light Heavyweight bout:  Jared Hamman vs.  Kyle Kingsbury
Lightweight bout:  Yves Edwards vs.  John Gunderson

Main card
Lightweight bout:  Ross Pearson vs.  Cole Miller
Lightweight bout:  Jim Miller vs.  Gleison Tibau
Catchweight (159lbs) bout:  Efrain Escudero vs.  Charles Oliveira
Middleweight bout:  Nate Marquardt vs.  Rousimar Palhares
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Post by: pilonv1 on September 19, 2010, 05:29:23 AM
http://www.sherdog.com/news/news/CSAC-Sonnen-Positive-for-PEDs-at-UFC-117-26978

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Sunday, September 19, 2010
by Greg Savage

According to California State Athletic Commission Executive Officer George Dodd, Chael Sonnen has been notified that he failed post-fight drug screening following his loss to Anderson Silva at UFC 117, which was held Aug. 7 at the Oracle Arena in Oakland, Calif.

“[Sonnen] received his notice yesterday,” Dodd told Sherdog.com shortly after the Shane Mosley-Sergio Mora boxing match ended Saturday night in Los Angeles.

In a conversation the day before, Dodd declined to comment on the situation, other than answering that all fighters from UFC 117 had passed drugs-of-abuse scans, but that the commission was still waiting on performance-enhancing drug screens from the event.

Dodd did not state which banned substance was red-flagged, but with a clean drugs-of-abuse scan it is clear the positive test was for a performance-enhancing substance.

The last major UFC banned-substance case in the state centered on UFC 73’s lightweight title match, which saw both competitors -- Sean Sherk and Hermes Franca -- test positive for PEDs. Both fighters were suspended for one year and fined, though Sherk appealed and had his suspension shortened to six months.

Sonnen is staring at a long layoff if he elects not to appeal or is denied. He was scheduled to rematch Silva Feb. 6 in Las Vegas, but that fight may be delayed or scrapped in light of these allegations.

Text messages to Sonnen went unreturned.

His manager Matt Lindland told Sherdog.com that he was cornering a fighter on the East Coast and had no knowledge of the positive test results.

Silva’s manager Ed Soares, who engaged in some heated exchanges via the media in the build up to the fight, was stunned when asked for his reaction.

“If it’s true, I feel really bad for him,” said Soares. “I know he did it to himself but it is really sad, he put on such a great performance that night it is just a shame it will be tarnished.”

:rofl

Anderson Silva still the fucking man :rock
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Post by: OptimoPeach on September 19, 2010, 04:30:15 PM
Saw that this morning :rofl Love the faux pity from Soares too
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Post by: Bloodwake on September 19, 2010, 05:02:45 PM
Well, that sucks. I was so excited someone could go with Anderson Silva, even if it was a total fucking douchebag.

God I fucking hate Chael Sonnen.
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Post by: Stoney Mason on September 19, 2010, 05:23:10 PM
 :rofl
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Post by: pilonv1 on September 19, 2010, 07:33:56 PM
This is even funnier when you consider he said that Lance Armstrong gave himself cancer
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Post by: OptimoPeach on September 19, 2010, 08:01:43 PM
:lol I totally forgot about that. Hoooooly shit

So who's next? I guess Marquardt? I'd still like to see Belfort
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Post by: pilonv1 on September 19, 2010, 10:13:25 PM
Depends, could be winner of Belfort/Okami (I think that's the fight), or they could do Bisping if he beats Sexyama. Or just give Marquardt the fight again but I don't know if that's a draw at this point.

I'd go with whoever looks the best out of Bisping/Belfort if they win.
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Post by: Stoney Mason on September 19, 2010, 10:14:57 PM
Yushin Okami am cry.
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Post by: chronovore on September 20, 2010, 12:40:54 AM
FFFUUUUUUUU... I thought we were over the PED era of this sport. Jesus, guys. Seriously.
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Post by: pilonv1 on September 20, 2010, 08:19:12 AM
FFFUUUUUUUU... I thought we were over the PED era of this sport. Jesus, guys. Seriously.

:lol

50%+ guys are on something. The only ones you find out about are the stupid ones, or the ones who don't get it out of their system in time. In a sport where you know your drug test date it's basically an IQ test.
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Post by: Stoney Mason on September 20, 2010, 08:24:34 AM
I saw some post over at neogaf in the mma thread where somebody was saying that Sonnen doesn't seem the type to do PED's.

 :lol
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Post by: Stoney Mason on September 22, 2010, 11:00:01 PM
http://content.usatoday.com/communities/mma/post/2010/09/sonnen-suspension-bumps-belfort-to-no-1-contender-status/1

Yushin Okami am cry
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Post by: Stoney Mason on September 22, 2010, 11:40:24 PM
Hilarious


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Middleweight contender Chael Sonnen tested positive for abnormally high levels of testosterone following an Aug. 7 UFC championship fight against titleholder Anderson Silva, the California State Athletic Commission informed SI.com on Monday.
Sonnen, 33, of West Linn, Ore., was apparently concerned enough about the possibility that he would render a positive test that he told CSAC executive director George Dodd he used an illegal substance leading up to the biggest fight of his life.


"He only indicated that he was taking it but he never indicated why," Dodd said of a conversation he and Sonnen shared during drug testing conducted by the state a day prior to the fight in Oakland.
Sonnen "just let me know he was taking [something] and that's when I called over an inspector to get it documented. But when you do take it you still have to show a medical reason."
According to Dodd, Sonnen wrote on a pre-fight drug screening form that he used "testosterone." Sonnen also indicated the manner in which he ingested the drug, though Dodd declined to answer whether that was in pill or injectable form.


Despite making the CSAC aware that he'd taken a banned substance, the commission could not prevent Sonnen from competing because of Rule 303 C in its regulations.
"A positive test which has been confirmed by a laboratory utilized by the commission ... shall be used as conclusive evidence of a violation of the subsection," Dodd said. "We have to have confirmation from a labratory before we can say 'yay' or 'nay.'


"Remember, we don't know what levels or anything else he was going to be tested for when the results came back. What happens if they were at normal levels? If his levels were normal, and you actually didn't have a reason why, then we actually stopped somebody from earning a living. Health and safety is our No. 1 priority but you have to weigh everything. And our rules do say you have to have confirmation from a laboratory.


"It was just a weird situation. But you follow what your rules and guidelines tell you to do, and that's what they told us to do."
As reported by Sherdog.com over the weekend, Sonnen was notified Friday of his positive test. The CSAC first received results on Sept. 2 and waited for confirmation of a second sample tested at the World Anti-Doping Agency affiliated UCLA Olympic Analytical Laboratory before informing Sonnen.
Per CSAC guidelines, Sonnen has 30 days to file an appeal with the state. On Tuesday, MMAFighting.com quoted Sonnen's manager Mike Roberts as saying the fighter would file a formal appeal with California. The next CSAC commission meeting is scheduled for Dec. 2 in Sacramento, Calif. If Sonnen does not file an appeal, he will be subject to an automatic one-year suspension and $2,500 fine.


Though Sonnen mentioned using testosterone, the veteran mixed martial artist failed to note it on a pre-fight questionnaire with commission doctors or provide documentation about the use of testosterone in a medical context, according to Dodd.
"Whenever you're taking an enhancing drug you have to let the commission know prior to even taking the test that you're taking, and what the medical reasons are why you're taking the drug," Dodd said. "That way we can verify with our commission doctors that the reason you're taking that is the reason you should be on that type of drug. You can't just come in and say, 'Hey, I'm taking this,' and think that's going to get you off."


The eight-year MMA veteran received an immense amount of press leading up to his fight against Silva because of his willingness to make outlandish comments, including several regarded as controversial. Speaking of American cyclist Lance Armstrong, Sonnen suggested Armstrong's bout against testicular cancer was a direct result of his cheating and using illegal drugs. Armstrong has fought off numerous allegations that he used banned performance-enhancing drugs, and has not yet yielded a positive test.


The fight between Silva and Sonnen (24-11-1) on Aug. 7 was one of the year's best. Sonnen dominated Silva, a pound-for-pound top-ranked fighter and MMA's No. 1 middleweight since 2006, over the course of four rounds. Sonnen appeared well on his way to taking the UFC title when Silva stunned the wrestler, who competed collegiately at the University of Oregon, with a triangle choke submission at 3:10 of Round 5. Because of Sonnen's ability to sell a fight that turned out to be extremely competitive, Silva-Sonnen captivated not only close watchers of mixed martial arts but casual viewers as well. UFC officials planned to capitalize off the middleweights' initial encounter by scheduling an immediate rematch for Feb. 6 in Las Vegas. That bout is now in jeopardy.
Sonnen has not responded to repeated requests for comment by SI.com. He is expected to make his first public statements Thursday on ESPN2's "MMA Live."


http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/mma/09/20/sonnen.drugtest/index.html
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Post by: chronovore on September 23, 2010, 09:36:07 AM
http://content.usatoday.com/communities/mma/post/2010/09/sonnen-suspension-bumps-belfort-to-no-1-contender-status/1

Yushin Okami am cry
Is Okami doomed?
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Post by: Stoney Mason on September 24, 2010, 01:51:20 PM
[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_7A_AK7WY8c&feature=player_embedded#![/youtube]

Dana is so full of shit.

And to be clear I'm not saying that because I'm some aggressive anti-steroid person. I think tons of athletes in all sports are doing it. The thing is he acts like he has no power to influence things. When he is the dude who continually signs these guys after they have been popped taking steroids in the first place. It's a pretty clear message how unimportant getting caught with steroids is when you're the first guy to welcome them back and resign them.

Is Okami doomed?

Okami is the fighter the UFC loves to screw since sometimes his fights aren't exciting. Of course watching Jon Fitch fight is like watching paint dry and he is nearing his second title shot.
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Post by: chronovore on September 24, 2010, 09:49:56 PM
So do you think Okami can get past Belfort? I don't but I didn't think Gomi stood a chance against Griffin.
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Post by: Stoney Mason on September 24, 2010, 11:11:08 PM
So do you think Okami can get past Belfort? I don't but I didn't think Gomi stood a chance against Griffin.

I would probably pick Belfort against Okami but its not like Belfort is some consistent guy. He always has his striking skills but its sort of funny to me how Belfort has been able to resurrect his career despite only fighting once in 2008 and twice in 2009.
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Post by: Boogie on September 25, 2010, 01:05:37 AM

Okami is the fighter the UFC loves to screw since sometimes his fights aren't exciting. Of course watching Jon Fitch fight is like watching paint dry and he is nearing his second title shot.

Disagree.  Okami and Fitch are basically being treated the same.  The difference is, Dana can't find anyone to beat Fitch, so for the integrity of the division, he might be forced to feed Fitch a second shot.  But I could still see Shields jumping ahead of him if he beats Kampmann.

Okami, on the other hand, got decisively beaten by Sonnen in the not-too-distant past, so there's a legitimate argument for forcing him to put together a better string of wins before getting a shot.  Of course, that doesn't explain Belfort getting a shot without ever having a win at Middleweight in the UFC, but, eh.
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Post by: Boogie on September 25, 2010, 01:07:01 AM


I would probably pick Belfort against Okami but its not like Belfort is some consistent guy. He always has his striking skills but its sort of funny to me how Belfort has been able to resurrect his career despite only fighting once in 2008 and twice in 2009.

I agree with this though.  Waaaay too dangerous and premature to jump on the Belfort wagon when the dude has fought so seldomly in the past two years.
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Post by: chronovore on September 25, 2010, 09:35:23 AM
It's probably PRIDE history, appealing to the fans there, though it seems like more often than not PRIDE alumni have a hard time with the cage and elbows.
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Post by: Stoney Mason on September 26, 2010, 01:55:02 PM
Awful card last night. Fucking cut Crocop please.
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Post by: Boogie on September 29, 2010, 10:02:13 PM
(http://i470.photobucket.com/albums/rr64/Patboyslim/GSPTheRoof.gif)
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Post by: chronovore on September 30, 2010, 12:04:25 AM
What a damned stud that lad is.
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Post by: Stoney Mason on September 30, 2010, 02:31:54 PM
WEC card tonight.

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Preliminary Card

Bantamweight bout:  Demetrious Johnson vs.  Nick Pace
Bantamweight bout:  Antonio Banuelos vs.  Chad George
Featherweight bout:  Tyler Toner vs.  Diego Nunes
Lightweight bout:  Chris Horodecki vs.  Ed Ratcliff
Featherweight bout:  Mike Brown vs.  Cole Province
Featherweight bout:  Zhang Tie Quan vs.  Pablo Garza

Main card

Featherweight bout:  Leonard Garcia vs.  Mark Hominick
Featherweight bout:  Chan Sung Jung vs.  George Roop
Bantamweight bout:  Miguel Torres vs.  Charlie Valencia
Lightweight bout:  Jamie Varner vs.  Donald Cerrone
Featherweight Championship bout:  Jose Aldo (c) vs.  Manvel Gamburyan
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Post by: Boogie on September 30, 2010, 07:39:20 PM
Card tonight is crazy stacked.

I mean, Mike Brown is on the fucking prelims!

I'm rooting for my buddies Hominick and Horodecki.  :punch
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Post by: OptimoPeach on September 30, 2010, 07:55:13 PM
Wow I didn't know the Korean Zombie was on this too. Looks pretty solid
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Post by: OptimoPeach on September 30, 2010, 10:17:11 PM
God where's Kenny Florian? Bonnar sounds like he's from Sesame Street
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Post by: Boogie on September 30, 2010, 10:19:16 PM
Hominick wins!  8)

But that judge who scored the fight for Garcia must have been smoking crack.
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Post by: E-DuB on September 30, 2010, 10:53:13 PM
Card tonight is crazy stacked.

I mean, Mike Brown is on the fucking prelims!

I'm rooting for my buddies Hominick and Horodecki.  :punch
Might have to give this card a look. The way you're talking about it, it might be better than UFC 119
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Post by: Boogie on September 30, 2010, 10:54:08 PM
Card tonight is crazy stacked.

I mean, Mike Brown is on the fucking prelims!

I'm rooting for my buddies Hominick and Horodecki.  :punch
Might have to give this card a look. The way you're talking about it, it might be better than UFC 119

Better than 119?  You're setting the bar pretty low there.  :lol

But ya, event has been pretty damn good so far.
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Post by: Boogie on September 30, 2010, 10:55:41 PM
and round 1 of Varner/Cerrone was insane!
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Post by: Stoney Mason on September 30, 2010, 11:35:09 PM
Aldo is such a badass.
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Post by: E-DuB on September 30, 2010, 11:36:57 PM
Mmmmmm...that was a nice uppercut
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Post by: pilonv1 on October 03, 2010, 08:11:15 AM
What whole show was awesome.

Poor Zombie :(
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Post by: Stoney Mason on October 09, 2010, 09:19:32 AM
Strikeforce card tonight

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Main Card
Welterweight Championship bout:  Nick Diaz (c) vs.  KJ Noons
Women's Welterweight Championship (135 lbs) bout:  Sarah Kaufman (c) vs.  Marloes Coenen
Lightweight bout:  Josh Thomson vs.  Gesias Cavalcante
Welterweight bout:  Tyron Woodley vs.  André Galvão


Preliminary Card
Welterweight bout:  James Terry vs.  Bret Bergmark
Middleweight bout:  Ron Keslar vs.  Josh McDonald
Lightweight bout:  Jess Bouscal vs.  Luis Mendoza
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Post by: Boogie on October 09, 2010, 11:54:28 AM
Nick Diaz:  one of the few fighters I always pray gets horribly clowned.  F'ing thug.

 Unfortunately, he's too good, especially in Strikeforce's small pond.

I did like that he retired Frank Shamrock though.  That was a fight that I was going to be satisfied with either one of those douches getting their ass kicked.
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Post by: chronovore on October 09, 2010, 11:58:08 AM
Yeah, it's funny watching Frank open his mouth. Nothing intelligent ever comes out of it. I'd like to hire a guy to stand behind him with a vuvuzela and blow it whenever it looks like Frank is going to talk.

Wasn't Nick in a very stupid fight inside the ring recently? I mean, like, after the official match had ended, and not one that he'd even been a participant in?
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Post by: Stoney Mason on October 09, 2010, 12:31:32 PM
Yeah, it's funny watching Frank open his mouth. Nothing intelligent ever comes out of it. I'd like to hire a guy to stand behind him with a vuvuzela and blow it whenever it looks like Frank is going to talk.

Wasn't Nick in a very stupid fight inside the ring recently? I mean, like, after the official match had ended, and not one that he'd even been a participant in?

It was the last Strikeforce event on network TV. Which is why there hasn't been another strikeforce event on network tv recently.


I always like watching Nick fight but otherwise this is a weak card.
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Post by: Boogie on October 09, 2010, 12:32:21 PM

Wasn't Nick in a very stupid fight inside the ring recently? I mean, like, after the official match had ended, and not one that he'd even been a participant in?

Ya, after the Shields/Henderson fight in April.  Jason Miller came into the cage during the postfight interview and challenged Shields, trying to hype a rematch between them.  Then Diaz and all of Cesar Gracie's camp jumped Miller like the thugs they are.
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Post by: Boogie on October 09, 2010, 12:34:29 PM

It was the last Strikeforce event on network TV. Which is why there hasn't been another strikeforce event on network tv recently.


Eh, it's generally accepted that the reason there hasn't been another CBS event is because the ratings for that April show bombed.  The brawl was just a good excuse to throw on top of that for CBS to say they didn't want that sort of thing on their network.  If the ratings had been good I doubt that little brawl would have stopped future network events from happening.
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Post by: OptimoPeach on October 09, 2010, 02:14:23 PM
I can't root against Nick Diaz ever. He and his brother may be (huge) distinguished mentally-challenged fellows, but they're never involved in a boring fight, which is more than I can say for most of the other guys in the sport that are always running their mouths.

Unfortunately, I have a gut feeling that KJ is gonna beat his ass

I always like watching Nick fight but otherwise this is a weak card.
Josh Thomson vs JZ should be great. Probably gonna skip the rest and go back to watch if there's good buzz

[youtube=560,345]6oGwJEZNYZE[/youtube]
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Post by: Stoney Mason on October 09, 2010, 11:04:09 PM
Hell of a first round there.
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Post by: Stoney Mason on October 10, 2010, 12:00:32 AM
meh. I find this diaz noons fight boring. The announcers are going nuts but to me it's like watching two sub-par boxers.
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Post by: Boogie on October 10, 2010, 12:01:45 AM
meh. I find this diaz noons fight boring. The announcers are going nuts but to me it's like watching two sub-par boxers.

Agreed, it's not doing much for me either.
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Post by: Stoney Mason on October 10, 2010, 12:05:40 AM
I think they are both trying....it's just a little pathetic.


Diaz has no takedown ability. And Noons is good enough on his feet (although incredibly wild with his punches) to give Diaz problems there so Diaz can't even look as good as he normally does in strikeforce. And pretty much no power behind either's punches. It was pretty obvious from the get go this was going to go 5 rounds.
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Post by: pilonv1 on October 10, 2010, 06:38:11 AM
If Strikeforce had good fights I could justify watching them. Right now? Utter waste of my time.
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Post by: Stoney Mason on October 16, 2010, 08:25:59 AM
Free Tape Delayed ppv on spike tv tonight.

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Preliminary card
Light Heavyweight bout:  James McSweeney vs.  Fabio Maldonado
Lightweight bout:  Spencer Fisher vs.  Kurt Warburton
Lightweight bout:  Paul Sass vs.  Mark Holst
Heavyweight bout:  Rob Broughton vs.  Vinicius Queiroz
Light Heavyweight bout:  Cyrille Diabaté vs.  Alexander Gustafsson

Main card
Welterweight bout:  James Wilks vs.  Claude Patrick
Heavyweight bout:  Cheick Kongo vs.  Travis Browne
Welterweight bout:  John Hathaway vs.  Mike Pyle
Welterweight bout:  Dan Hardy vs.  Carlos Condit
Middleweight bout:  Michael Bisping vs.  Yoshihiro Akiyama
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Post by: chronovore on October 16, 2010, 10:26:22 AM
I'd really like to see Akiyama choke out Bisping.
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Post by: Stoney Mason on October 16, 2010, 07:58:09 PM
I'd really like to see Akiyama choke out Bisping.

I don't like how Akiyama seems to gas out everytime he fights. I'm going to pick Bisping for the win and I haven't seen any reports of who won or loss any of the fights.

Going to start in a couple of minutes.
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Post by: Boogie on October 16, 2010, 08:11:54 PM
Not going to get to watch it, so spoilered results:

spoiler (click to show/hide)
Soooooooooooo satisfying to read that smug douche Hardy got KTFO'd by a "boring" Greg Jackson fighter.
[close]
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Post by: Stoney Mason on October 16, 2010, 08:54:09 PM
Kongo is garbage.
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Post by: chronovore on October 16, 2010, 09:20:52 PM
Kongo has been garbage since entering the UFC. I couldn't believe that first fight; he looked like a fish out of water the instant it went to the ground, even against an opponent who couldn't capitalize on it effectively. Since then, he hasn't managed to close the gaps in his game.

He'd be a real threat in K-1, where there is no  ground game, or even in a less competitive MMA league, but he's not really in the UFC class of MMA fighters.
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Post by: Stoney Mason on October 16, 2010, 10:09:36 PM
lol at Hardy. I've never liked him.
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Post by: Stoney Mason on October 16, 2010, 10:59:26 PM
yeah that went about as expected with bisping.
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Post by: OptimoPeach on October 17, 2010, 02:14:15 PM
(http://i56.tinypic.com/efly6h.gif)

:lol
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Post by: pilonv1 on October 19, 2010, 11:06:34 PM
Was a terrible show overall. I could watch Akiyama fight all the time, he's fantastic. You're lucky you didn't get the Wilkes fight
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Post by: Stoney Mason on October 22, 2010, 11:37:23 AM
[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rRK1x5rgruw[/youtube]

Biggest fight of the year tomorrow. I really like Cain Velasqeuz but sadly I think Lesnar will win simply because of the size difference. I've always thought it was bogus Lesnar isn't in a higher weight class. Sort of BS when you can outweigh your opponent by 30 pounds in a weight class and nobody considers that a problem.
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Post by: chronovore on October 22, 2010, 12:37:45 PM
Yeah, but then you'd have to have Super-Heavyweight "monster" matches like PRIDE, and it would just be Brock, Butterbean, and "Makebono."
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Post by: Stoney Mason on October 22, 2010, 01:01:42 PM
Oh I understand why it doesn't exist. Because a lack of talent. But it still bugs me.
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Post by: Boogie on October 22, 2010, 05:36:36 PM
I don't like the "lesnar is too huge" meme.  Yes, there's not enough superheavyweight talent to make a division out of it, but also, 80% of the time the normal sized heavyweight will beat the superheavy.

And besides, it doesn't apply to Lesnar now anyway.  He and his camp have repeatedly said he wont be cutting almost any weight to hit 265 for this fight. 

Few made the same calls for a superheavy division when Tim Sylvia ruled the ufc's hw division, and he's always cut weight to hit 265.

Much ado about nothing, IMO.
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Post by: Stoney Mason on October 22, 2010, 06:04:10 PM
For what its worth I've never liked the big discrepancy in weight for the heavyweight divisions in MMA. Whether its Sylvia or Lesnar. I'm definitely not faulting Lesnar. He has no power over the situation anyway.

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Post by: OptimoPeach on October 22, 2010, 07:42:23 PM
So let's see

Randy, although stylistically totally different than Cain, still gave Lesnar some trouble inasmuch as he couldn't just ragdoll him like he can with Mir
Lesnar couldn't take Carwin down until he gassed (right?)
Lesnar is coming in lighter
And although managing to refine his game mostly everywhere with each subsequent fight, Lesnar's striking is still pretty awful

Cain TKO 4:30 rd 1

Oh how far the UFC has come from the days of Justin Eilers fighting for the belt
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Post by: chronovore on October 22, 2010, 08:08:20 PM
Yeah, it's been interesting. It started out as a "my kung fu is stronger than tae kwon do" peen competition, primarily organized by the Gracies IIRC so they could prove that BJJ had the largest peen. Which it did, for a long time, but with the introduction of rules, and a LOT of water under the bridge, it's evolved into its own thing. Just bringing any one discipline to the mat is a sure way to lose to a stoppage. Fighters now to have to be skilled in stand-up, ground, and be very physically fit* to have any chance of getting into the UFC, and it wouldn't surprise me if the b-tier leagues are becoming nearly equally competitive.

* Roy Nelson has me confused here as well.
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Post by: Boogie on October 22, 2010, 09:47:00 PM
Optimo:  all that analysis is true, but I wonder how wise it is to make predictions based on lesnar's past performances.  He's an exceptional case because in spite of his accomplishments, he's still so green.

So I'm not sure how useful it is to go back and look at Lesnar's performance in the couture fight.  I mean, that was brock's FOURTH MMA fight.  He was still learning the game, eight years after leaving the amateur wrestling world.  And yet, he still beat couture in his fourth fight EVER.

So I just think it is difficult to use brock's past fights when he is still vastlyimproving his skills.
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Post by: OptimoPeach on October 22, 2010, 10:51:26 PM
Yeah he's definitely improving greatly from fight to fight. Lately that's why it's so hard for me to pick against Brock, but I still think that Cain has the best shot out of anyone in the UFC at taking him out
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Post by: Boogie on October 22, 2010, 11:53:58 PM
I would agree with that.  Style-wise, and assuming cain's gameplan is to keep things standing, I cannot see JDS faring any better than Cain against Brock.  Cain is far and away the biggest challenge on the horizon for Brock, barring a carwin who doesn't gas out after five minutes, or Overeem jumping over to the ufc.
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Post by: Stoney Mason on October 23, 2010, 01:58:59 PM
Brock previewed his entrance walk for tonight.


[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDmdf46JZZ0[/youtube]

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Post by: OptimoPeach on October 23, 2010, 05:24:32 PM
Brock previewed his entrance walk for tonight.


[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDmdf46JZZ0[/youtube]


rofl fucking wrestling
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Post by: WrikaWrek on October 23, 2010, 09:51:55 PM
Cain has my dollar
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Post by: Stoney Mason on October 23, 2010, 10:10:38 PM
Gabriel Gonzaga is fighting. Let me guess. He's going to be disappointing in this match as always.
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Post by: Stoney Mason on October 23, 2010, 10:41:57 PM
Tito talks so much shit for an over the hill fighter.
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Post by: Stoney Mason on October 23, 2010, 11:07:06 PM
Retire fucker.

For those keeping track Ortiz hasn't won a fight since 2006. Against Frank Shamrock.


His win before that. Was also against Frank Shamrock
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Post by: Stoney Mason on October 23, 2010, 11:37:58 PM
Very nice fight there from Diego


(http://i53.tinypic.com/2h6yhrm.jpg)
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Post by: Stoney Mason on October 23, 2010, 11:39:02 PM
hmmm... I have a feeling Shields could get upset here. We'll see.
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Post by: Stoney Mason on October 24, 2010, 12:03:55 AM
Shields wins this fight via boring wrestling exhibition and gases badly.

He has no chance against GSP and I doubt any chance against Koscheck.

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Post by: Stoney Mason on October 24, 2010, 12:12:11 AM
My heart says Cain. My brain says Brock.

 :-\
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Post by: OptimoPeach on October 24, 2010, 12:24:20 AM
I was close enough
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Post by: Stoney Mason on October 24, 2010, 12:24:34 AM
FUCK YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by: WrikaWrek on October 24, 2010, 12:24:46 AM
See, Cain won.

Easy pick, he punches too hard for the kind of speed and cardio he has.
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Post by: Stoney Mason on October 24, 2010, 12:25:10 AM
So fucking happy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 :spin :spin :spin :spin :spin :spin :spin :spin :spin :spin :spin :spin :spin :spin :spin :spin

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Post by: OptimoPeach on October 24, 2010, 12:26:40 AM
So badass

Most satisfying main event since Shogun Machida 2
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Post by: Stoney Mason on October 24, 2010, 12:28:14 AM
So badass

Most satisfying main event since Shogun Machida 2

yeah. I really like Cain. Classy guy. Well rounded fighter. Not an asshole.

Pretty much everything you want.

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Post by: Stoney Mason on October 24, 2010, 12:49:47 AM
(http://i52.tinypic.com/2jcedcp.jpg)
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Post by: Boogie on October 24, 2010, 01:24:01 AM
Retire fucker.

For those keeping track Ortiz hasn't won a fight since 2006. Against Frank Shamrock.


His win before that. Was also against Frank Shamrock

Ken.  Ken shamrock.

Tonight showed us that once GSP gets past koscheck (who will be a challenge) there will be nothing left for him at 170.

Jon fitch again?  Please.  That's just another five round beating waiting to happen.

And, notwithstanding any weight cutting and injury issues, shields showed he has the grand total of fuck all for gsp.

Great performance by Cain.  The revolving door of ufc heavyweight champions continues.
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Post by: Stoney Mason on October 24, 2010, 01:24:42 AM
Ken.  Ken shamrock.

 :-[
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Post by: OptimoPeach on October 24, 2010, 02:57:59 AM
(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs004.snc4/33566_10150276764825262_549660261_15219155_2350283_n.jpg)

:lol
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Post by: CajoleJuice on October 24, 2010, 03:05:41 AM
Completely forgot about the card tonight. So awesome that Cain won.
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Post by: pilonv1 on October 24, 2010, 08:24:49 AM
brock :(
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Post by: Stoney Mason on October 29, 2010, 11:03:58 AM
Quote
UFC President Dana White made the landmark announcement on a Thursday conference call: World Extreme Cagefighting will merge with Zuffa LLC’s flagship promotion in 2011, absorbing the WEC’s considerable talent pool in the process.

Several of the WEC’s most prominent fighters have weighed in on the folding of the blue cage, speaking exclusively to Sherdog.com on the matter.

“I was speechless [when I heard the news] this morning. It’s crazy,” said lightweight title contender Anthony Pettis. “I was training hard, but now I’m pushing even harder. There’s so much to look forward to in this next year.”

Pettis will headline the WEC’s final event, WEC 53 on Dec. 16, when he takes on lightweight champion Benson Henderson to determine the brand’s final 155-pound king. White said the winner of that matchup will face the victor of Frankie Edgar’s UFC title defense against Gray Maynard in 2011.

Currently, WEC talent appears almost exclusively on the Versus network, a fact that will soon change. Starting next year, the fighters will regularly compete on pay-per-view, just like the rest of the UFC roster.

“It’s crazy,” Pettis said. “It’s not even real yet, and it’s not going to be real until it finally happens. I’ve heard the rumors for a year and a half. The possibility of headlining a pay per view is huge.”

His opponent, however, takes the merger in stride. Henderson claims the medium in which he performs is not as important as the performance itself.

“I’m not so affected by the pay-per-view stuff. No matter the venue, I still have to go out there and perform and get my hand raised,” Henderson told Sherdog. “I could be fighting in the back of a 7-11, and I still have to go out and do my best.”

However, Henderson admits the prospect of fighting on the biggest stage in mixed martial arts is inspiring. If he manages to get past Pettis in December, the unification fight sits on the horizon.

Regardless of who wins in the Edgar-Maynard contest at UFC 125 on New Year’s Day, Henderson says he will be prepared to prove himself inside the Octagon.

“It would mean a lot [to become the UFC lightweight champion],” he said. “It’d be a dream come true. I want to be the best on the planet, so I’ll probably eventually fight both guys. I want to beat everybody -- not my buddies, but everybody else.”

While Henderson and Pettis are relatively new additions to the WEC roster, Urijah Faber and Miguel Torres are not. They were longstanding champions in their respective divisions, and both men helped grow the brand by putting on action-filled fights. For Torres, the merger has produced mixed feelings.

“It’s definitely bittersweet, because I’ve been with the WEC a while, and I’ve been fighting since ’98. I think I’m a pioneer, but now the future is open to me,” said Torres. “I think it’s really good. It’s going to give us lighter guys more attention. We’ve sort of been viewed as second-tier fighters, and now we’ve got the opportunity to show the world that we belong in the UFC.”

Faber, on the other hand, looks wholeheartedly toward the future and even feels a sense of relief that the brands have finally merged.

“I’m excited, man. I’ve been pushing for [the merger] for a while now. We WEC guys haven’t been getting the credit or the exposure that we deserve. It’s also going to mean better paydays, which is obviously great,” Faber said. “Not having to explain the difference, or lack of a difference, to the fans is going to be nice. I’m looking forward to the satisfaction of there finally being no difference between the UFC and the WEC. I didn’t think there was a difference before, except the initials, but now it’s official.”

One fact all four men can agree on is that the new surroundings of the UFC’s massive, 30-foot Octagon will not negatively impact the action for which WEC combatants are known.

“I don’t think [the larger space will affect the action]. The WEC is known for putting on exciting fights. There are potential ‘Fight of the Year’ nominees on almost every card, and that’s because WEC fighters go out there and get after each other,” said Henderson.

“You could put us in the middle of the ocean or the desert, and we’re still going to push forward and have an exciting fight.”

http://www.sherdog.com/news/articles/WECs-Best-Thrilled-by-UFC-Merger-27829
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Post by: chronovore on October 29, 2010, 11:09:09 AM
That's nothing but good news. Very cool that the lighter weightclasses will hopefully stop being shortchanged on payday.
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Post by: Bloodwake on October 31, 2010, 05:51:27 PM
So awesome. Should have happened a long time ago.
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Post by: Stoney Mason on November 13, 2010, 10:00:24 AM
One of those free overseas cards on Spike TV tonight. Not a great set of matches but its free.


Quote
Preliminary card
Welterweight bout:  Kris McCray vs.  Carlos Eduardo Rocha
Light Heavyweight bout:  Seth Petruzelli vs.  Karlos Vemola
Welterweight bout:  Duane Ludwig vs.  Nick Osipczak
Welterweight bout:  Pascal Krauss vs.  Mark Scanlon
Light Heavyweight bout:  Vladimir Matyushenko vs.  Alexandre Ferreira
Middleweight bout:  Kyle Noke vs.  Rob Kimmons

Main card
Light Heavyweight bout:  Krzysztof Soszynski vs.  Goran Reljic
Welterweight bout:  Amir Sadollah vs.  Peter Sobotta
Lightweight bout:  Dennis Siver vs.  Andre Winner
Middleweight bout:  Jorge Rivera vs.  Alessio Sakara
Middleweight bout:  Nate Marquardt vs.  Yushin Okami
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Post by: OptimoPeach on November 14, 2010, 08:54:14 PM
Yeah last night mostly sucked. Pacquiao/Margarito was much more entertaining, even if it was a one-sided beating. It was cool watching fighters that can actually throw a punch for a change
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Post by: Boogie on November 14, 2010, 09:12:27 PM
A buddy had tickets to a Leafs game, so I got to watch NHL hockey live, and missed the fights.  And didn't regret it a second.  On paper, that card looked worse than a Fight Night, and sounds like it played out worse.


Yeah last night mostly sucked. Pacquiao/Margarito was much more entertaining, even if it was a one-sided beating. It was cool watching fighters that can actually throw a punch for a change

Okay, c'mon man.  Boxers are the best at boxing, shock.  But there's no point in decrying the striking skills in MMA for someone who has the knowledge for why MMA striking doesn't look like a boxing match. 
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Post by: ManaByte on November 16, 2010, 01:02:33 PM
[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NaDGBFB4ZOA[/youtube]

Rampage is fucked.
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Post by: OptimoPeach on November 16, 2010, 07:55:49 PM
Yeah last night mostly sucked. Pacquiao/Margarito was much more entertaining, even if it was a one-sided beating. It was cool watching fighters that can actually throw a punch for a change

Okay, c'mon man.  Boxers are the best at boxing, shock.  But there's no point in decrying the striking skills in MMA for someone who has the knowledge for why MMA striking doesn't look like a boxing match. 
That bit was just tongue-in-cheek -- though I have to say that I AM pretty much done with MMA outside of the top 10 or so in each division. Watching the Jose Aldos, Cain Velasquezs, Shinya Aokis, Anderson Silvas, GSP's, etc is easily as awesome as anything any other sport has to offer, but the influx of lower tier "well-rounded" (read: wholly average and unremarkable at every discipline and will remain so forever) guys just bore me to tears lately. Like seriously, it gets to the point where I'd even rather be watching baseball or something. I mean I understand that there's always going to be a huge talent gap between the middling fighters and the best of the best, but does it have to be SO goddamn huge? Is that just the way it is?

Maybe the problem is just me and my ever-shortening attention span.

[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NaDGBFB4ZOA[/youtube]

Rampage is fucked.
:lol There was almost identical footage of Anderson with Seagal before his fight with Sonnen.  I remember Seagal made Anderson address him as sensei looool. I still don't get if it's like a big Brazilian joke and they're all just clowning on the poor guy or what
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Post by: WrikaWrek on November 16, 2010, 08:11:49 PM
Seagal would be world champion if he was in the UFC
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Post by: chronovore on November 16, 2010, 09:38:36 PM
Seagal would get DQ for going for too many cup-checks. Or cupcakes.
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Post by: Skidmark on November 19, 2010, 12:47:58 AM
[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bmi7tI8Aot4[/youtube]
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Post by: Stoney Mason on November 20, 2010, 11:24:54 AM
Card tonight


Quote
Preliminary card

Lightweight bout: Tyson Griffin vs. Nik Lentz
Lightweight bout: Paul Kelly vs. T.J. O'Brien
Lightweight bout: Edson Barboza vs. Mike Lullo
Welterweight bout: Karo Parisyan vs. Dennis Hallman
 
Spike TV card

Middleweight bout: Aaron Simpson vs. Mark Muñoz
Welterweight bout: Matt Brown vs. Brian Foster
 

Main card

Lightweight bout: George Sotiropoulos vs. Joe Lauzon
Light Heavyweight bout: Phil Davis vs. Tim Boetsch
Middleweight bout: Gerald Harris vs. Maiquel Falcão
Welterweight bout: Matt Hughes vs. B.J. Penn
Light Heavyweight bout: Quinton Jackson vs. Lyoto Machida
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Post by: OptimoPeach on November 20, 2010, 02:57:04 PM
Lightweight bout: George Sotiropoulos vs. Joe Lauzon
Light Heavyweight bout: Phil Davis vs. Tim Boetsch
Middleweight bout: Gerald Harris vs. Maiquel Falcão
Welterweight bout: Matt Hughes vs. B.J. Penn
Light Heavyweight bout: Quinton Jackson vs. Lyoto Machida
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Post by: chronovore on November 20, 2010, 07:24:21 PM
How one-sided was the Rampage/Machida fight?
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Post by: Stoney Mason on November 20, 2010, 09:55:26 PM
Good Lord Karo Parisyan is pitiful at this point.
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Post by: Stoney Mason on November 20, 2010, 11:29:14 PM
This harris fight is the worst thing I've ever seen. God damn awful.
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Post by: OptimoPeach on November 20, 2010, 11:46:05 PM
:lol BJ fleeing the scene like when he murdered Caol Uno
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Post by: Stoney Mason on November 20, 2010, 11:47:46 PM
BJ by destruction.
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Post by: Stoney Mason on November 21, 2010, 12:31:03 AM
3 round fights suck in the ufc between high level guys. Wish main events were mandatory 5.
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Post by: Stoney Mason on November 21, 2010, 12:45:44 AM
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_zz3p63WSXZE/TOilS0_xDZI/AAAAAAAAAa8/EKW3T51wiAk/s1600/111111111111111111111.gif)
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Post by: OptimoPeach on November 21, 2010, 12:59:05 AM
Man that looked Liddell-esque. I've never been a big fan but I felt pretty bad for Hughes. He sounded shattered in that interview

Main event was pretty predictable. And yeah, any fight with contender implications should be a five rounder

edit: Wait what? I hopped on Starcraft before they read the decision. They gave that to Rampage? :lol
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Post by: WrikaWrek on November 21, 2010, 07:59:55 AM
Yup.

Basically, the scoring sistem dictates that the winner of the fight might not be the winner of the sum of the rounds.
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Post by: Stoney Mason on November 21, 2010, 12:42:26 PM
Yup.

Basically, the scoring sistem dictates that the winner of the fight might not be the winner of the sum of the rounds.


This. I easily see how Rampage could have won it.

The first two rounds there weren't a lot of decisive shots landed. The third round Machida won but people almost never give 10-10 rounds and the first two were so close but I could see them going to Rampage.

The 10 must system as currently practiced in MMA has never honestly been a good way to judge a fight. It works for boxing where you have so many rounds but not in MMA in 3 round affairs. Plus the nature of what is damage in MMA is so different than boxing. 

If a guy wins two extremely close rounds. And then the second guy decisively wins the 3rd, then the guy who won the first two extremely close rounds is the winner in a 10 point must system.  That system is the problem in MMA. And also the fact that main events aren't 5 rounds. Hell I wish every fight was 5 rounds. Push all the people out of the sport who have no gas tank.

http://blog.fightmetric.com/2010/11/rampage-vs-machida-fightmetric-report.html
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Post by: Boogie on November 21, 2010, 06:00:57 PM
The unconventional ad for GSP/Kos II that aired during the PPV.  I rather like it.

[youtube=560,345]eqQxz49gT_Q[/youtube]

Oh yeah, did I mention I'm going to be there in Montreal for my first live UFC event?   :hyper :hyper :hyper
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Post by: pilonv1 on November 21, 2010, 06:13:16 PM
jon fitch v BJ Penn in Sydney.

fuck off fitch
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Post by: Boogie on November 21, 2010, 07:06:41 PM
jon fitch v BJ Penn in Sydney.

fuck off fitch

I actually like that fight.  It forces Penn to stick around at WW if he wants to make a run at GSP.  Style-wise, it might force Fitch into an entertaining fight due to BJ's combination of excellent takedown defence and striking.  And if BJ wins, it gets rid of Fitch as a title contender and thorn in Dana's side.

Would have rather had BJ vs. Alves tho.
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Post by: WrikaWrek on November 21, 2010, 08:57:47 PM
I kinda want Kosheck to win just because he's good at being an asshole, but i think he's just playing the fun villain that you kinda root for but know that in the end...he can't beat the hero.
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Post by: Stoney Mason on November 21, 2010, 09:13:41 PM
I like Kosh. He seems like a smart asshole. Which I distinguish from someone like Brock Lesnar who just seems like an asshole. It's why I also like Frank Mir because he strikes me as a similar type.

My brain logically says he has no chance against GSP. But I'm still hoping for a good fight either way.
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Post by: OptimoPeach on November 22, 2010, 08:44:21 PM
[youtube=560,345]cYpuxp-s7jU[/youtube]

UFC "helping" their prospects confirmed? Is the on-screen clock synced with the official timekeeping clock? Not usually one to cry outrage at every minor controversy, but this is ridiculous if so
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Post by: OptimoPeach on November 23, 2010, 08:39:35 PM
Dana with the damage control: http://www.fightline.com/fl/news/2010/1123/534112/dana-white/

And they apparently just cut Gerald Harris despite him riding a three (UFC) fight win streak coming into this fight. Wow :lol

The unconventional ad for GSP/Kos II that aired during the PPV.  I rather like it.

[youtube=560,345]eqQxz49gT_Q[/youtube]

Oh yeah, did I mention I'm going to be there in Montreal for my first live UFC event?   :hyper :hyper :hyper
I missed this somehow during the PPV. Never have actually seen it. Pretty badass.

I don't think Koscheck stands a chance, but I also think he's one of the few MMA heels that is actually worthy of the hype he generates, so I'm conflicted. I dunno. I can barely remember what their last fight looked like. I guess Koscheck at least has a puncher's chance now

spoiler (click to show/hide)
So where are all the highlights from the Dan Hardy fight in that video? :smug
[close]
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Post by: Stoney Mason on November 23, 2010, 10:48:23 PM
While that Harris fight was fucking shit, I'm always a little dissappointed when the UFC pulls the trigger that quick to cut somebody.

I wish they had lower tier shows for prospects to actually try to develop instead of immediately expecting everybody to be great really quickly.


That was a terrible fight though.
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Post by: Skidmark on November 24, 2010, 03:37:07 PM
I like Kosh. He seems like a smart asshole. Which I distinguish from someone like Brock Lesnar who just seems like an asshole. It's why I also like Frank Mir because he strikes me as a similar type.

My brain logically says he has no chance against GSP. But I'm still hoping for a good fight either way.
Watch the ultimate fighter, that guy is stupid even when he is trying not to be an ass.
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Post by: Stoney Mason on November 24, 2010, 05:55:28 PM
I like Kosh. He seems like a smart asshole. Which I distinguish from someone like Brock Lesnar who just seems like an asshole. It's why I also like Frank Mir because he strikes me as a similar type.

My brain logically says he has no chance against GSP. But I'm still hoping for a good fight either way.
Watch the ultimate fighter, that guy is stupid even when he is trying not to be an ass.

I don't believe you! You just love GSP!!

 :P
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Post by: chronovore on November 24, 2010, 06:27:28 PM
Who doesn't? GSP is super awesome. And dreeeeamy. (Despite the Frenchy accent.)
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Post by: Skidmark on November 25, 2010, 08:31:40 PM
[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ikL43tV-A_U[/youtube]
[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nJ0yPNh4Nwg[/youtube]
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Post by: Boogie on November 25, 2010, 08:54:38 PM
[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ikL43tV-A_U[/youtube]
[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nJ0yPNh4Nwg[/youtube]

Heh, what a coincidence, I watched that vid last night.

Best Highlight video ever. Especially the bits showing how GSP has, one way or another, made his opponents and critics eat their words over the course of his career.  :bow2

GSP  :drool
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Post by: OptimoPeach on November 27, 2010, 11:03:19 PM
My favorite remains Frank Trigg calling GSP a B-level fighter in the pre-fight hype and then being the victim of one of the most one-sided beatdowns I've ever seen.

I think I want to see an upset. It would at least make WW a little more interesting, right? Then they could feed Shields to GSP, give him another title shot, and Kos gets smashed in the rubber match
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Post by: Boogie on November 28, 2010, 12:15:01 AM
No. 

GSP must reign forevermore.  Beat Kos, then Shields, then superfight with Anderson Silva.

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Post by: Boogie on December 03, 2010, 10:36:26 PM
ITT:  yacobod and Eggo act like ignorant asses, even given my insufferable GSP-man-love.  :-*

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=414876
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Post by: Stoney Mason on December 04, 2010, 09:43:10 AM
Two cards tonight.


Strikeforce: St. Louis


Quote
Official Fight Card

Preliminary Card
Welterweight bout:  Fernando Bettega vs.  Wayne Phillips
Lightweight bout:  Justin Lawrence vs.  Max Martytniouk
Light Heavyweight bout:  Terrell Brown vs.  Patrick Cummins
Middleweight bout:  Lucas Lopez vs.  Cortez Coleman
Light Heavyweight bout:  Lee Brousseau vs.  Mike Glenn
Lightweight bout:  Tom Aaron vs.  Matt Ricehouse
Middleweight bout:  Booker DeRousse vs.  Coltin Cole
Catchweight (130 lbs) bout:  Josh Epps vs.  J.W. Wright

Main Card
Light Heavyweight bout:  Benji Radach vs.  Ovince St. Preux
Heavyweight bout:  Antonio Silva vs  Mike Kyle
Welterweight bout:  Paul Daley vs.  Scott Smith
Middleweight bout:  Robbie Lawler vs.  Matt Lindland
Light Heavyweight bout:  Dan Henderson vs.  Renato Sobral



TUF 12 finale


Quote
Official fight card


Preliminary card
Middleweight bout:  Rich Attonito vs.  Dave Branch
Featherweight bout:  Fredson Paixão vs.  Pablo Garza
Catchweight (138 lb) bout:  Will Campuzano vs  Nick Pace
Lightweight bout:  Sako Chivitchian vs.  Kyle Watson
Featherweight bout:  Tyler Toner vs.  Ian Loveland
Lightweight bout:  Cody McKenzie vs.  Aaron Wilkinson

Main card
Featherweight bout:  Leonard Garcia vs.  Nam Phan
Welterweight bout:  Rick Story vs.  Johny Hendricks
Middleweight bout:  Demian Maia vs.  Kendall Grove
Light Heavyweight bout:  Stephan Bonnar vs.  Igor Pokrajac
Lightweight bout:  Jonathan Brookins vs.  Michael Johnson

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Post by: pilonv1 on December 04, 2010, 06:15:58 PM
:yawn strikeforce

:hyper Stephen Bonnar

:hyper :hyper LEONARD GARCIA
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Post by: Stoney Mason on December 05, 2010, 07:19:59 PM
The UFC card was meh but the strikeforce card had some crazy knockouts. Good card. Good stuff.

(http://i56.tinypic.com/2ueplsi.jpg)
(http://i52.tinypic.com/2dvu4g6.jpg)
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_zz3p63WSXZE/TPsrE46nhRI/AAAAAAAAApY/ke2zgwLid70/s1600/bf4.gif)
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_zz3p63WSXZE/TPsvjPh-UBI/AAAAAAAAAqc/VEzs6Pbt2VE/s1600/hhh.gif)
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Post by: Boogie on December 05, 2010, 07:21:00 PM
This fight didn't air, but what a CRAZY sub:

(http://i52.tinypic.com/2cnflty.gif)

edit: didn't see the Strikeforce event (can't get it in Canada), but Holy Shit at Lawler delicately placing Lindland's feet on the canvass after the KO.  Dude's all class.  :lol :lol
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Post by: chronovore on December 05, 2010, 09:30:40 PM
Holy crap. In that guy's defense, he can claim that he lost because he'd never seen that sub before. Wow.
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Post by: Skidmark on December 08, 2010, 05:32:23 AM
The UFC card was meh but the strikeforce card had some crazy knockouts. Good card. Good stuff.
Agreed!
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Post by: Skidmark on December 08, 2010, 08:39:05 AM
Can you guys recommend me a good strikeforce card to watch? I feel like watching some MMA right now.
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Post by: Stoney Mason on December 08, 2010, 09:35:09 AM
Can you guys recommend me a good strikeforce card to watch? I feel like watching some MMA right now.

Download the last one.
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Post by: Skidmark on December 08, 2010, 10:55:56 AM
Can you guys recommend me a good strikeforce card to watch? I feel like watching some MMA right now.

Download the last one.
I have watched the latest one with henderson (the reason why I want to watch another one) and I believe I have watched another one a couple of months ago with you.
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Post by: Stoney Mason on December 08, 2010, 11:30:20 AM
Can you guys recommend me a good strikeforce card to watch? I feel like watching some MMA right now.

Download the last one.
I have watched the latest one with henderson (the reason why I want to watch another one) and I believe I have watched another one a couple of months ago with you.

Most of them aren't remotely that good. Here is a list of their events.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Strikeforce_events

The last significant one was Strikeforce: Diaz vs. Noons II but that was kind of meh. The Fedor Werdum card I seem to remember as decent but maybe that was just because of that fight. Also there was a UFC card last weekend if you haven't seen that. 
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Post by: pilonv1 on December 08, 2010, 06:05:13 PM
Any Strikeforce show with Gilbert Melendez is good. Otherwise they're pretty shit.
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Post by: Boogie on December 08, 2010, 09:22:00 PM
The one thing about Strikeforce cards:  You're almost always better off watching them on mute.
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Post by: chronovore on December 08, 2010, 09:23:26 PM
Why? Who does their commentary?
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Post by: Boogie on December 08, 2010, 09:54:22 PM
Why? Who does their commentary?

Frank Shamrock and Mauro Ranallo.  :yuck
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Post by: OptimoPeach on December 08, 2010, 11:22:33 PM
You can't forget Gus "Shank Tark" Johnson
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Post by: pilonv1 on December 09, 2010, 12:01:22 AM
Their commentary is horrible. Frank isn't too bad but Mauro and Gus are shocking.
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Post by: chronovore on December 09, 2010, 09:33:57 AM
Why? Who does their commentary?

Frank Shamrock and Mauro Ranallo.  :yuck

OK, so the same two guys they've got doing the commentary in EA Sports MMA, that makes sense with the Strikeforce license.

I've been re-watching PRIDE vids and enjoying Bas Rutten and Stephen Quadros' commentary style. They're clearly having a lot of fun.
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Post by: Stoney Mason on December 09, 2010, 09:48:04 AM
Actually that's probably what I should have suggested to skidmark. To download and watch some of the old pride competitions.
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Post by: Stoney Mason on December 11, 2010, 12:36:34 PM
Card tonight



Quote
Official fight card

Preliminary card

Lightweight bout:  Pat Audinwood vs.  John Makdessi
Welterweight bout:  TJ Grant vs.  Ricardo Almeida
Welterweight bout:  Matt Riddle vs.  Sean Pierson
Middleweight bout:  Jesse Bongfeldt vs.  Rafael Natal

Preliminary card (UFC.com live stream)
Lightweight bout:  Mark Bocek vs.  Dustin Hazelett
Middleweight bout:  Joe Doerksen vs.  Dan Miller

Main card
Welterweight bout:  Thiago Alves vs.  John Howard
Lightweight bout:  Joe Stevenson vs.  Mac Danzig
Lightweight bout:  Jim Miller vs.  Charles Oliveira
Heavyweight bout:  Stefan Struve vs.  Sean McCorkle
Welterweight Championship bout:  Georges St-Pierre (c) vs.  Josh Koscheck
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Post by: OptimoPeach on December 11, 2010, 07:40:49 PM
Prelims are being streamed on ufc.com due to the VGAs on Spike
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Post by: Stoney Mason on December 11, 2010, 09:59:10 PM
[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQSveKmmupQ[/youtube]

 :bow2
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Post by: chronovore on December 11, 2010, 11:13:44 PM
He's an excellent heel, but he's going to be enjoying the taste of shoe leather in just a little bit.
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Post by: Stoney Mason on December 11, 2010, 11:29:20 PM
He has very little chance tonight although I would be lying if I said I wasn't rooting for him a little bit.

Maybe a lucky knockout could get Kosh the title tonight but outside of that its hard to see him winning.

I think it will go the distance though.
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Post by: Stoney Mason on December 11, 2010, 11:41:58 PM
Stefan Struve has the weirdest body ever.
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Post by: OptimoPeach on December 11, 2010, 11:43:35 PM
Wowow I thought that fight was gonna be so bad

And wow they're airing a prelim fight that they already showed on ufc.com wtf wtf
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Post by: Stoney Mason on December 12, 2010, 12:10:29 AM
Kosh is already busted up in that eye.
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Post by: Stoney Mason on December 12, 2010, 12:13:59 AM
Kosh ain't got shit for GSP. This is a dusting.
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Post by: OptimoPeach on December 12, 2010, 12:15:52 AM
4th round TKO for GSP barring a miracle punch from Koscheck
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Post by: Stoney Mason on December 12, 2010, 12:19:48 AM
You can already see Kosh's gameplan has devolved into looking for a miracle shot.
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Post by: OptimoPeach on December 12, 2010, 12:33:22 AM
Man Koscheck might have been reduced to a human punching bag but I'm still impressed at his being able to avoid the ground
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Post by: Stoney Mason on December 12, 2010, 12:35:22 AM
That went about as expected.

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Post by: pilonv1 on December 12, 2010, 07:44:44 AM
GSP is like Jon Fitch if he were a good striker.
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Post by: Boogie on December 12, 2010, 06:16:05 PM
ahem:

WOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

OLE OLE OLE OLE

FUCK YOU KOSCHECK *CLAP CLAP CLAPCLAPCLAP* FUCK YOU KOSCHECK

So much fun!  Crowd was insane! :D

Shame there was no finish, but embarrassing kos for five rounds, uglying him up, and breaking his orbital bone is a good consolation result.

GSP is like Jon Fitch if he were a good striker.

and if Fitch ever tried to pass guard.
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Post by: Stoney Mason on December 12, 2010, 06:20:16 PM
Congrats Boogie.


I'm sure it was a fun event.
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Post by: pilonv1 on December 12, 2010, 10:41:52 PM
GSP is like Jon Fitch if he were a good striker.

and if Fitch ever tried to pass guard.

true.
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Post by: Skidmark on December 13, 2010, 03:27:41 AM
I showed the UFC fight between kos and gsp to my father who watches mostly boxing and k1, he enjoyed it especially the first round, but after that when it continued to be one sided round after round it became a bit uneventful to him if you can say so.
I seem to have enjoyed it more than him probably because I have been following the interviews, the count down, the ultimate fighter, weigh ins, trash talk and the hype so its probably why it seemed far more exciting for me to watch Kos being defenseless to those jabs. It wasn't a boring fight for me but I can't deny that I too was hoping that GSP would knock kos out when kos lost his depth of field/view due to the swollen eye.
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Post by: chronovore on December 13, 2010, 07:34:18 AM
ahem:

WOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

OLE OLE OLE OLE

FUCK YOU KOSCHECK *CLAP CLAP CLAPCLAPCLAP* FUCK YOU KOSCHECK

So much fun!  Crowd was insane! :D

Shame there was no finish, but embarrassing kos for five rounds, uglying him up, and breaking his orbital bone is a good consolation result.

:lol

I was wondering how festive the atmosphere there would become when (not if) the GSP victory was secured. Still, as you say it's too bad it wasn't a stoppage. Koscheck has balls for miles though, fighting with an eye like that. No wonder he was flinching so bad in the last two rounds.
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Post by: Skidmark on December 15, 2010, 05:33:13 PM
Great article:
http://www.mmafighting.com/2010/12/14/dominance-of-georges-st-pierre-is-in-the-details/
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Post by: pilonv1 on December 17, 2010, 12:20:32 AM
What a way for WEC to go out

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_zz3p63WSXZE/TQrst99qWTI/AAAAAAAAA-4/pduzoiHqZww/s1600/12.gif)

:bow WEC :bow2
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Post by: Vizzys on December 17, 2010, 01:07:58 AM
i just came here to mention that kick

fucking awesome
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Post by: chronovore on December 17, 2010, 01:57:05 AM
Holy moly, that's out of the freakin' Matrix.
spoiler (click to show/hide)
The first one. The good movie.
[close]
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Post by: OptimoPeach on December 17, 2010, 09:07:15 AM
Wowowow that is so sick

Went to sleep early last night after watching two rounds of the bantamweight title fight
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Post by: Boogie on December 17, 2010, 09:29:26 AM
It's one of those things where, if it doesn't land, you're a silly jackass.  But ifit does, you're an instant mma legend. :bow
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Post by: OptimoPeach on December 17, 2010, 09:34:09 AM
Glad I'm not the only one that instantly thought of Sean Salmon vs Rashad
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Post by: CajoleJuice on December 17, 2010, 11:53:14 AM
I watched MMA Live (analysis show) on the ESPN 360 app last night. So cool. Whenever GSP-Silva is mentioned, I start unconsciously frothing at the mouth. NEEDS TO HAPPEN
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Post by: Stoney Mason on January 02, 2011, 12:28:05 AM
Frankie Edgar is a tough little son of a bitch. He's gonna get a lot of respect for this fight whether he wins or loses.
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Post by: Stoney Mason on January 02, 2011, 12:35:32 AM
Was surprisingly good for a fight I had no interest in going into.
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Post by: Skidmark on January 03, 2011, 01:12:35 AM
(http://ezpicshare.com/images/bongos.gif)
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Post by: Stoney Mason on January 03, 2011, 02:01:50 AM
Yeah Thiago pretty much crushed Vera. And his broken nose was just.....disgusting.


(http://cdn3.sbnation.com/imported_assets/624620/vera_nose_medium_medium.jpg)
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Post by: Stoney Mason on January 04, 2011, 03:27:18 PM
(http://i54.tinypic.com/mtr2aw.jpg)


http://www.sherdog.com/news/news/Sonnen-Pleads-Guilty-to-Money-Laundering-Charge-29170
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Post by: Stoney Mason on February 04, 2011, 10:07:38 PM
[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=keaNO4J6EK4[/youtube]

 :bow2



Good Card

Quote
Official fight card

Preliminary card
Welterweight bout:  Mike Pierce vs.  Kenny Robertson
Light Heavyweight bout:  Kyle Kingsbury vs.  Ricardo Romero
Lightweight bout:  Paul Taylor vs.  Gabe Ruediger


Preliminary card (Facebook Stream)
Bantamweight bout:  Norifumi Yamamoto vs.  Demetrious Johnson

Preliminary card (Spike TV)
Featherweight bout:  Chad Mendes vs.  Michihiro Omigawa
Lightweight bout:  Donald Cerrone vs.  Paul Kelly

Main card
Bantamweight bout:  Miguel Torres vs.  Antonio Banuelos
Light Heavyweight bout:  Jon Jones vs.  Ryan Bader
Welterweight bout:  Jake Ellenberger vs.  Carlos Eduardo Rocha
Light Heavyweight bout:  Forrest Griffin vs.  Rich Franklin
Middleweight Championship bout:  Anderson Silva (c) vs.  Vitor Belfort
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Post by: Boogie on February 05, 2011, 12:55:36 AM
Damn good card.

But I worry about the potential for the main event to become a staring contest between two counter-punchers who don't want to be the first to pull the trigger...

edit:  then again, I wrote that before watching that video of the staredown.  holy shit.
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Post by: chronovore on February 05, 2011, 09:26:07 AM
I want to see Silva lose. I'm amazed by his level of skill, but the last fights prior to Sonnen really soured me on him.

And what's the deal with Bader/Jones. I think Jones is going to smoke him, but it sounds like Bader's favored?
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Post by: Boogie on February 05, 2011, 10:32:02 AM
No, Jones is the betting favourite, and most "journalists/experts" are picking him.
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Post by: Stoney Mason on February 05, 2011, 10:39:25 AM
I think Jones should win but I won't underestimate Bader's ability to get in there and tie up jones and lay and pray his way to victory especially in a 3 round fight.

Silva should beat Belfort since he's a much better technical striker than him but Belfort is still dangerous. One good clip and he could get get the win.
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Post by: OptimoPeach on February 05, 2011, 02:31:14 PM
I'm picking Anderson to just straight up embarrass Vitor, but you never know with Anderson, I guess. It would be nice to see Vitor catch a break. That staredown though OMFG

Preliminary card (Facebook Stream)
Bantamweight bout:  Norifumi Yamamoto vs.  Demetrious Johnson

Preliminary card (Spike TV)
Featherweight bout:  Chad Mendes vs.  Michihiro Omigawa
Lightweight bout:  Donald Cerrone vs.  Paul Kelly

Main card
Bantamweight bout:  Miguel Torres vs.  Antonio Banuelos
Light Heavyweight bout:  Jon Jones vs.  Ryan Bader
Welterweight bout:  Jake Ellenberger vs.  Carlos Eduardo Rocha
Light Heavyweight bout:  Forrest Griffin vs.  Rich Franklin
Middleweight Championship bout:  Anderson Silva (c) vs.  Vitor Belfort

No, I didn't pick everyone on the left just because

Sherdog had a good podcast on this event: http://www.sherdog.com/radio/Roundtable-UFC-126-1793 Gross + Breen :drool
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Post by: Stoney Mason on February 05, 2011, 02:37:20 PM
Why do you think Forrest will beat Rich?


size?

Serious question.
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Post by: OptimoPeach on February 05, 2011, 03:34:20 PM
Pretty much, although that's my least confident pick after the Torres fight
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Post by: Boogie on February 05, 2011, 05:17:01 PM
I think Forrest has the advantage in size and better kicks.

I think he'd also be better in the clinch and on the ground, though there's less tangible proof I can point to for those.

Rich has the better boxing and power in his hands.
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Post by: Stoney Mason on February 05, 2011, 05:43:08 PM
First UFC card in awhile I've been excited for. Can't wait for tonight.

For those that don't know the whole mask thing at the weigh in was a response to a quote belfort made about Silva wearing a mask to try to intimidate him. Of course he meant mask not in the literal sense so Silva was mocking him with the white mask.

Quote from: Vitor Belfort
How do you know if a piece of fruit is good, you have to bite it. His actions speak louder then his words. Sure I think he respects me, a side of him. He wears the mask though, tries to intimidate. He can see in my eyes though, I am a fighter. I don't get intimated by anyone. Even if I knock him out, or I get knocked out, I am here to put on a show for you guys. So, I am not going to get intimidated by anyone and he knows that...so I think he respects me.
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Post by: chronovore on February 05, 2011, 10:09:42 PM
Well, testosterone enhancement or not, Silva was losing the fight against Sonnen, so we know he's not invincible. Sonnen has been caught in subs repeatedly, it's a hole in his game. I don't think Belfort has that same hole, and I think he'll bring plenty of heat on Silva.
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Post by: Stoney Mason on February 05, 2011, 11:25:33 PM
Jones
 :bow2
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Post by: Stoney Mason on February 05, 2011, 11:29:06 PM
Wow they just gave Jones the title shot at Rua

 :o
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Post by: Stoney Mason on February 05, 2011, 11:49:39 PM
Yeah Forrest is just too big for Rich. Rich shouldn't be fighting at 205. But because Silva beat him twice that's where he is stuck.  >:(
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Post by: Stoney Mason on February 06, 2011, 12:22:05 AM
Destruction silva

Fuck that was a nasty kick.
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Post by: E-DuB on February 06, 2011, 12:39:20 AM
I'm in awe of what just happened...Silva is a damned monster.
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Post by: Stoney Mason on February 06, 2011, 12:41:34 AM
I know this sounds stupid but my first instinct was that the kick was somehow illegal. Like it was so brutal and so obvious that I thought somehow this wasn't right. Like my mind imagined that Belfort was on the ground and it was an illegal kick or something. Not even kidding.
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Post by: Stoney Mason on February 06, 2011, 12:48:04 AM
Also if they are going to do the GSP Silva superfight now is the time to do it. Neither guy could be higher right now in the public's mind. If they get the UFC hype machine behind it, this could be fucking huge.

I mean really, who wants to see GSP dust Jake Jake Shields which is what it would be. I'm less interested in that fight than I was to see GSP dust Kosh.

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Post by: Stoney Mason on February 06, 2011, 01:12:30 AM
(http://www.mmainterplay.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/anderson-silva-front-kick-vitor-belfort1.gif)


Also


Quote
Dana White was asked tonight in the UFC 126 post-fight press conference if Anderson Silva’s next opponent would be Georges St. Pierre. White answered, “If Georges wins his fight, that’ll probably be the fight we do”.

I totally think this is the right move but poor Yushin Okami gets screwed again.
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Post by: Boogie on February 06, 2011, 01:33:40 AM
I mean really, who wants to see GSP dust Jake Jake Shields which is what it would be. I'm less interested in that fight than I was to see GSP dust Kosh.



Who wants to see GSP dust Shields?  I DO!  'course, I'm selfish, 'cause I'll be seeing it live.

But, really, GSP-Shields makes sense, because Shields is the last and final WW contender before GSP has well and truly cleaned out the division for the time being. And because there is a segment of the fanbase that calls GSP boring, and so a Fitch-esque drubbing of Shields would help hype GSP up a bit more.

And because Toronto is going to be a massive live event which could itself help the momentum for a GSP-Silva fight.
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Post by: Stoney Mason on February 06, 2011, 01:40:44 AM
I mean really, who wants to see GSP dust Jake Jake Shields which is what it would be. I'm less interested in that fight than I was to see GSP dust Kosh.



Who wants to see GSP dust Shields?  I DO!  'course, I'm selfish, 'cause I'll be seeing it live.

But, really, GSP-Shields makes sense, because Shields is the last and final WW contender before GSP has well and truly cleaned out the division for the time being. And because there is a segment of the fanbase that calls GSP boring, and so a Fitch-esque drubbing of Shields would help hype GSP up a bit more.

Oh I agree and technically Silva still has unfinished business with Sonnen and Okami. It's just one of those things where I give Shields no hope at all which colors my opinion. At least Hardy could punch. At least Kosh is like a much much much lesser version of GSP. I guess Shields has his BJJ but its such a foregone conclusion he's not going to be able to get into position to utilize it that I just don't care about the fight. And he just looked like shit in his first fight in the UFC. I don't even think he deserves a title shot. But I get why they are doing it.


In other news

(http://i51.tinypic.com/348hh5j.jpg)

 
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Post by: CajoleJuice on February 06, 2011, 02:15:54 AM
You're right, Stoney, Silva-GSP needs to happen now. God, that shit was fucking disgusting. Joe Rogan couldn't stop saying I'VE NEVER SEEN A KNOCKOUT WITH A FRONT KICK TO THE FACE, he was so shocked. Jones-Shogun is cool, too. Jones was just a beast. Reminded me a bit of Silva, only with wrestling ability.
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Post by: Boogie on February 06, 2011, 02:18:25 AM
I foresee an August/Sept date if GSP beats Shields.

Question is, what should the venue be?

Madison Square Garden, if the UFC can get MMA legalized in NY in time?

Cowboy Stadium?

return to Toronto for the Skydome?

Vegas?
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Post by: CajoleJuice on February 06, 2011, 02:21:27 AM
I would buy a ticket if it were at MSG. God, that'd be fucking incredible.
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Post by: pilonv1 on February 06, 2011, 02:35:17 AM
:bow SILVA :bow2

what an amazing man, GSP is doomed
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Post by: CajoleJuice on February 06, 2011, 02:39:06 AM
change the title to SILVA VS GSP PLEASE
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Post by: Boogie on February 06, 2011, 02:41:07 AM
change the title to SILVA VS GSP PLEASE

DO EEET!

:bow SILVA :bow2

what an amazing man, GSP is doomed

Yes, because Silva KO'ing a headcase who hadn't fought in 15 months, had NEVER fought in the UFC at 185lbs, and had a history of wilting under pressure, and has nothing in common style-wise with GSP, means that GSP has no chance against SIlva.  huh  ???
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Post by: CajoleJuice on February 06, 2011, 02:42:44 AM
Oh god, Hollywood made this thread, title ain't gonna change
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Post by: pilonv1 on February 06, 2011, 04:05:10 AM
Yes, because Silva KO'ing a headcase who hadn't fought in 15 months, had NEVER fought in the UFC at 185lbs, and had a history of wilting under pressure, and has nothing in common style-wise with GSP, means that GSP has no chance against SIlva.  huh  ???

Silva is also a much larger guy than anyone GSP has fought. I just want anyone involved with Greg Jackson to lose.
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Post by: CajoleJuice on February 06, 2011, 02:04:59 PM
What does Silva do after a GSP fight if he wins? Go up to LHW and get an immediate title shot? :lol
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Post by: Stoney Mason on February 06, 2011, 03:43:13 PM
I think it would be a fascinating fight. The conventional wisdom is that Silva's size will create problems for GSP but then GSP is such an amazing wrestler which is the weakness of Silva.

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Post by: OptimoPeach on February 06, 2011, 05:46:08 PM
That was one of the most surreal, bizarre moments I can recall in MMA, right up there with the Newton/Hughes double KO

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Post by: chronovore on February 06, 2011, 08:45:40 PM
Destruction silva

Fuck that was a nasty kick.
http://sports.yahoo.com/mma/blog/cagewriter/post/Steven-Seagal-helped-Anderson-Silva-with-KO-fron?urn=mma-317407

:rofl
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Post by: Stoney Mason on February 06, 2011, 09:04:47 PM
Destruction silva

Fuck that was a nasty kick.
http://sports.yahoo.com/mma/blog/cagewriter/post/Steven-Seagal-helped-Anderson-Silva-with-KO-fron?urn=mma-317407

:rofl

[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w9tNw-KSzVI[/youtube]
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Post by: E-DuB on February 06, 2011, 09:18:15 PM
I foresee an August/Sept date if GSP beats Shields.

Question is, what should the venue be?

Madison Square Garden, if the UFC can get MMA legalized in NY in time?

Cowboy Stadium?

return to Toronto for the Skydome?

Vegas?
Cowboy's Stadium. If they can do a boxing match there, they can do GSP/Silva there no problem
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Post by: chronovore on February 07, 2011, 12:08:21 AM
Destruction silva

Fuck that was a nasty kick.
http://sports.yahoo.com/mma/blog/cagewriter/post/Steven-Seagal-helped-Anderson-Silva-with-KO-fron?urn=mma-317407

:rofl

[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w9tNw-KSzVI[/youtube]

I shuttled through the whole video but didn't see that kick. At any point, does that fat bastard do ANYTHING that looks like Silva's face-level front snap-kick? I saw him kicking under knee level. I don't think Belfort's face was at knee-level until after the kick.
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Post by: Stoney Mason on February 07, 2011, 12:15:42 AM
No there's nothing there about the kick. I just posted it because I thought it was funny to see Seagal in that environment. As far as the kick who knows. Silva could just be trolling people.
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Post by: chronovore on February 07, 2011, 12:21:03 AM
I suspect Silva is a fan of his movies, and is able to glean movement skills from him. Sure. And Seagal does have some slick combat aikido moves, no doubt. As out of shape as he is, I wouldn't want to be forced to face him unarmed.

With a donut in each hand, I'm pretty sure I could take him though.
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Post by: Boogie on February 09, 2011, 06:38:00 PM
(http://cdn3.sbnation.com/imported_assets/651640/5430929833_369fd96d84_z_medium.jpg)

(http://legendsrevealed.com/entertainment/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/birdo.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/Lw8qO.jpg)
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Post by: Boogie on February 10, 2011, 10:08:45 PM
Entire 42,000 tickets for UFC: Toronto sold out on first day of the pre-sale.

http://www.tsn.ca/mma/story/?id=353297

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Toronto's appetite for the UFC is proving to be near insatiable.

The mixed martial arts juggernaut enjoyed a record day at the box office Thursday, selling more than 42,000 tickets -- its entire original ticket block -- for UFC 129 on April 30 at the Rogers Centre.

"I LOVE CANADA!" UFC president Dana White told The Canadian Press in a text message.

The previous UFC attendance record was UFC 124 in Montreal, which drew 23,152 to the Bell Centre in December. White often refers to Canada as the mecca of mixed martial arts.

"To say the response was overwhelming would be an understatement," said Tom Wright, the UFC's director of Canadian operations.

"In less than an hour we were pretty well down to some singles (tickets)."

It took the UFC even less time -- just seven or eight minutes after tickets went on sale to members of the UFC Fight Club at 10 a.m. ET -- to decide it needed to make several thousand more tickets available so there would be some left when the general public gets a chance to buy them Saturday.

On Friday, another pre-sale is set for those who subscribe to the UFC newsletter.

Wright would not detail the possible total number of seats on sale but said 50,000 would be "pushing it."

"I'd love to see a first digit (of) five but time will tell."

...I did not get tickets.  :'(
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Post by: Stoney Mason on February 12, 2011, 09:59:23 AM
Not an especially interesting card but Fedor fights tonight.


Heavyweight Grand Prix quarterfinal bout:  Fedor Emelianenko vs.  Antonio Silva
Heavyweight Grand Prix quarterfinal bout:  Andrei Arlovski vs.  Sergei Kharitonov
Heavyweight Grand Prix reserve bout:  Shane Del Rosario vs.  Lavar Johnson
Heavyweight Grand Prix reserve bout:  Chad Griggs vs.  Gianpiero Villante
Heavyweight Grand Prix reserve bout:  Valentijn Overeem vs.  Ray Sefo
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Post by: OptimoPeach on February 12, 2011, 04:36:39 PM
WTF Canada. That is crazy

And yeah, I didn't even know about this Strikeforce card until a week ago lol
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Post by: Stoney Mason on February 12, 2011, 11:55:47 PM
Fedor just got beat again. Fight stopped before the 3rd round because of fucked up eye on Fedor. Silva ground and pounded him and dominated the second round and fucked up his eye.
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Post by: OptimoPeach on February 13, 2011, 12:02:43 AM
 :'( Talking about retiring
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Post by: Stoney Mason on February 13, 2011, 12:08:22 AM
I have very mixed feelings about Fedor. Not about his legacy which is more than secure. But about how he handled the whole UFC thing. Not that I'm saying he had to sign. He didn't. I would have respected it more if his management had just been more open about things.

But his legacy is secure. And honestly at this point, its becoming clear he wouldn't have dominated the UFC like some people thought. I mean he can continue fighting those guys in strikeforce which I have a feeling he will but it certainly doesn't have the same mythical drawing element to it that it once did.

edit: I didn't see the interview. I missed the interview talk but I guess some people are saying that he retired?
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Post by: Stoney Mason on February 13, 2011, 12:31:41 AM
(http://sportsnickel.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/Fedors-Face.jpg)
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Post by: pilonv1 on February 13, 2011, 05:47:45 AM
ahahahahahahahahah

also

(http://www.abload.de/img/sergei_arlonrt9.gif)

(http://www.games-ranch.com/forum/images/smilies/fight.gif) :lol
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Post by: chronovore on February 13, 2011, 10:31:24 AM
Andrei neeeds to retiiiire.
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Post by: pilonv1 on February 13, 2011, 05:18:32 PM
(http://oi56.tinypic.com/11jxg1d.jpg)

:bow DANA :bow2
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Post by: Stoney Mason on March 12, 2011, 06:51:30 PM
I said wow

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Strikeforce is no longer the UFC’s biggest competitor.

In a video interview with Ariel Helwani posted to MMAFighting.com on Saturday morning, UFC President Dana White announced that Zuffa has purchased the San Jose, Calif.-based fight promotion.

“It's literally official right now. We literally just purchased Strikeforce,” said White. “I don't want to disclose any of the details on how the deal was done, but the reality is that we now own Strikeforce.”

White explained the reasons behind the purchase in the interview, stating that expanding Zuffa's talent pool was a necessary step to take as the promotion ventures into more international endeavors.

“As we go out and [continue to expand], we need more fights. Let's face facts. Strikeforce is a brand that fans have come to like and [the fans] enjoy the fights that they're putting on. So it made sense to us,” said White. “Our job is to put on the big fights that fans want to see, and as we continue to travel [abroad], we have to put on the right fights in these other countries.”

While White would not disclose the exact length of the negotiation period, the UFC boss did confirm that the buyout “happened quickly,” when asked if the talks lasted less than six months.

White then revealed that while Strikeforce is now the property of Zuffa, Scott Coker's promotion would not be dissolved. Rather, Strikeforce will continue to operate independently under the supervision of its new parent company.

“Strikeforce is going to continue to run -- business as usual. There are contracts in place, and we honor contracts. These guys pull good ratings on Showtime, and all of those contracts are going to be honored. These guys are going to remain Strikeforce fighters.”

White then elaborated on that concept, asserting that Coker would continue in his role as Strikeforce head, maintaining the promotion's operations and managing the talent. According to White, this means that Coker will have license to re-sign fighters at his discretion, including talents with whom White takes issue, such as Paul Daley and Josh Barnett.

“We've signed a deal with Scott Coker. He's staying on. You've seen me battle with guys over the years, but I’ve never had a bad thing to say about Scott Coker. I’ve known Scott since the K-1 days. Scott is a good guy.”



http://www.sherdog.com/news/news/Zuffa-Purchases-Strikeforce-30800
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Post by: OptimoPeach on March 12, 2011, 07:32:40 PM
O m g

I expect them to at least poach some of the prospects if not just dissolve them anyway in the nearish future
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Post by: chronovore on March 12, 2011, 08:48:22 PM
Holy shit.

So... EA Sports MMA 2 will have EXCLUSIVELY imaginary fight franchises? :lol
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Post by: pilonv1 on March 12, 2011, 09:47:21 PM
EA MMA was dead 3 months ago, now Dana is skull fucking it in front of EA.

I'm guessing they'll be run separately like WEC was until some of the stupider contracts & the showtime deal expires then they'll be merged.
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Post by: Boogie on March 14, 2011, 09:39:14 PM
From Dave Meltzer via Fightlinker:

http://www.fightlinker.com/how-strikeforce-ended-up-for-sale (http://www.fightlinker.com/how-strikeforce-ended-up-for-sale)

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Elsewhere, Wrestling Observer writer Dave Meltzer is reporting that the financial relationship between Strikeforce and M-1 Global proved so burdensome to the former that they were forced to seek outside funding, allowing potential buyers in.

That's right.  From that perspective, Fedor killed yet another MMA promotion.

Pride
Bodog
Affliction
Strikeforce

 :piss M-1 Global!  :piss2

edit:  or....MAYBE....

M-1 Global has been working for Dana all along!  They've been his long-term Trojan Horse to bring down competing promotions from within!  Damn, Dana is one devious motherfucker!
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Post by: Stoney Mason on March 19, 2011, 11:00:38 AM
Intriguing title fight tonight.


Quote
Official fight card

Preliminary card
Catchweight (195 lb) bout:  Nick Catone vs.  Constantinos Philippou
Featherweight bout:  Erik Koch vs.  Raphael Assunção
Bantamweight bout:  Joseph Benavidez vs.  Ian Loveland


Preliminary card (Facebook)
Lightweight bout:  Kurt Pellegrino vs.  Gleison Tibau
Welterweight bout:  Ricardo Almeida vs.  Mike Pyle


Preliminary card (Spike TV)
Lightweight bout:  Edson Barboza vs.  Anthony Njokuani
Light Heavyweight bout:  Eliot Marshall vs.  Luiz Cane


Main card
Heavyweight bout:  Brendan Schaub vs.  Mirko Filipović
Middleweight bout:  Nate Marquardt vs.  Dan Miller
Lightweight bout:  Jim Miller vs.  Kamal Shalorus
Bantamweight bout:  Urijah Faber vs.  Eddie Wineland
Light Heavyweight Championship bout:  Maurício Rua (c) vs.  Jon Jones
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Post by: CajoleJuice on March 19, 2011, 01:05:54 PM
Yeah, huge fight. I might miss it, and if I do, I will ignore forums and twitter until I download and watch it.
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Post by: pilonv1 on March 19, 2011, 07:22:45 PM
I'm more interested in seeing Faber than the title fight.
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Post by: OptimoPeach on March 19, 2011, 08:46:14 PM
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=424867

WTF :lol
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Post by: Stoney Mason on March 19, 2011, 09:46:58 PM
I'm more interested in seeing Faber than the title fight.

Good Lord why?
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Post by: pilonv1 on March 19, 2011, 10:14:51 PM
Faber is dreamy :heart
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Post by: Stoney Mason on March 19, 2011, 10:25:39 PM
Why the fuck are we forced to watch these cro-crop fights. Is he desperately in need of money or something? Just fucking retire already.

Edit: oh lord. Schaub just got a point deducted. Which means cro-cop may win and I'll have to see him fight again.  :'(
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Post by: Stoney Mason on March 19, 2011, 10:35:48 PM
Sad to say but thank you. Fucking retire already.
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Post by: chronovore on March 20, 2011, 12:06:24 AM
He should be running for office in Croatia by now. How many fights left on his UFC contract?

BTW, what was the point deduction for? I didn't see it in the live blogging of the fight.
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Post by: Stoney Mason on March 20, 2011, 12:08:04 AM
He should be running for office in Croatia by now. How many fights left on his UFC contract?

BTW, what was the point deduction for? I didn't see it in the live blogging of the fight.

I assume it was for a punch to the back of the head. Schaub was doing that a lot.
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Post by: chronovore on March 20, 2011, 12:25:09 AM
Sounds like the KO punch was behind the ear, so it is apparently a strategy which works well for him.  :-[
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Post by: Stoney Mason on March 20, 2011, 12:29:38 AM
Shogun already looks gassed and its the first round.
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Post by: Stoney Mason on March 20, 2011, 12:33:25 AM
Jones is outclassing shogun big time.
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Post by: OptimoPeach on March 20, 2011, 12:39:26 AM
Raped. Shogun looked kinda fat lol. I didn't think he would be coming back after a third knee surgery
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Post by: Stoney Mason on March 20, 2011, 12:40:13 AM
Jones by rape!
 :bow2
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Post by: Stoney Mason on March 20, 2011, 12:41:41 AM
lol at the nuthuggers in that gaf thread who thought shogun was gonna own jones.
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Post by: chronovore on March 20, 2011, 12:47:40 AM
Holy schnikies, what a Cinderella story for Jones. I bet he's going to hold onto it for awhile. He's sharp.
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Post by: Stoney Mason on March 20, 2011, 12:49:07 AM
Raped. Shogun looked kinda fat lol. I didn't think he would be coming back after a third knee surgery

I think shogun style wise was the perfect matchup for machida. But his striking was never that impressive to me. It's that wild looping style that use to work in mma when you had less good technical strikers. Add in the fact that jones is such a better wrestler than Shogun and it was an ugly fight. I thought it was gonna be closer than that but in hindsight of course I guess this was the obvious conclusion.
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Post by: Stoney Mason on March 20, 2011, 01:50:06 AM
(http://www.mediafire.com/imgbnc.php/3e54372f3d3051a35b6a2ca3105fa494a49ced7d90f98a7e359a32d221cc7b664g.jpg)
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Post by: Smooth Groove on March 20, 2011, 02:16:21 AM
The OA dummies actually got it right.  Maybe I should use their picks to put down some money next time. 
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Post by: Stoney Mason on March 20, 2011, 10:46:26 AM
Quote
Rashad Evans: I'm Done With Greg Jackson's Gym


http://www.mmafighting.com/2011/03/20/rashad-evans-im-done-with-greg-jacksons-gym/
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Post by: Skidmark on March 20, 2011, 11:29:37 AM
lol at the nuthuggers in that gaf thread who thought shogun was gonna own jones.

:(
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Post by: Stoney Mason on March 20, 2011, 11:46:43 AM
lol at the nuthuggers in that gaf thread who thought shogun was gonna own jones.

:(

Nah I'm not referencing you skidmark. I mean a lot of people did think Shogun would win because of his experience. Even I kinda thought Shogun would win even though I knew Jones had a real shot at it. That's a legit take. But some mma asshats think a guy is going to win by simply riding his nuts as hard as they can.
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Post by: Skidmark on March 20, 2011, 11:51:31 AM
Me and my friends were close to betting our pizza money on shogun winning the fight. We were just expecting it to be a gsp vs shields kind of a fight.  :lol
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Post by: CajoleJuice on March 20, 2011, 12:41:44 PM
Jones is a fucking freak. He's just way too big for anyone at light heavyweight. Holy fuck.
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Post by: Boogie on March 20, 2011, 02:17:13 PM
lol at the nuthuggers in that gaf thread who thought shogun was gonna own jones.

In spite of following MMA for years and being very "knowledgable" about the sport, yacobod is pretty much distinguished mentally-challenged.
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Post by: Boogie on March 20, 2011, 05:45:17 PM
Also, the UFC ad guys have been on FIYAH lately.

The GSP/Kos ad was great, and then this one:

[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WbvpdWpqQw4[/youtube]

FUCK YEAH.  GSP IN TORONTO :rock

Very theatrical and dramatic, beats to hell the traditional "Monster Truck Rally"-esque ads.
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Post by: chronovore on March 20, 2011, 06:00:58 PM
That's tight as hell. And LAWL at the brief shot of Josh "GSP is afraid to stand and bang with me" Koscheck's eye.
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Post by: OptimoPeach on March 20, 2011, 06:02:02 PM
LOL I just sat here for ten minutes typing up and then deleting posts

I don't know what to say. Yesterday feels like a dream. We saw a Chute Boxe fighter tap to strikes from some kid that has been training MMA for three years WTFFFFFFF

So how many more big names does he destroy like that before people start flirting with the GOAT label? Two? Three?
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Post by: Boogie on March 20, 2011, 06:08:20 PM
If Jones keeps wrecking people, I vote he stick around at LHW for two years, then bulk up and head to HW.
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Post by: Stoney Mason on March 20, 2011, 07:13:42 PM
The thing that is nasty about this new breed of mma fighter likes jones, or Velasquez, or even to a degree GSP is that their striking is generally better than most people at their weight class. So they can use their wrestling to dictate where ever the fight happens so its advantageous to them. They aren't just lay and pray style wrestling guys thank god. They can use their wrestling to not go down but take it there if they want to deliver some nasty ground and pound. I really like these guys.
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Post by: Boogie on March 20, 2011, 07:21:46 PM
The crazy part is, I think Jones is only just now coming into his own with his striking and learning how to effectively use his monstrous reach advantage. 

Optimo put it right.  If this kid is a champion now when he's green and only trained MMA for three years, how good can he get?  I'm not annointing him the next Fedor yet, but I don't think anyone at 205 is eager to fight him.
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Post by: chronovore on March 21, 2011, 04:14:00 AM
Yeah, he's just nuts.

And this makes me feel like putting Steve Mazagatti into the personnel catapult for that lame ass DQ call. Come on.
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Post by: Stoney Mason on March 26, 2011, 04:51:49 PM
Free Card tonight on Spike TV

Quote
Preliminary Card
Lightweight bout:  Waylon Lowe vs.  Nik Lentz
Middleweight bout:  Mario Miranda vs.  Aaron Simpson
Welterweight bout:  Johny Hendricks vs.  TJ Waldburger



Preliminary Card (Facebook)
Heavyweight bout:  Sean McCorkle vs.  Christian Morecraft
Bantamweight bout:  Michael McDonald vs.  Edwin Figueroa
Welterweight bout:  John Hathaway vs.  Kris McCray
Heavyweight bout:  Jon Madsen vs.  Mike Russow
Featherweight bout:  Alex Caceres vs.  Mackens Semerzier

Main Card
Featherweight bout:  Leonard Garcia vs.  Chan Sung Jung
Welterweight bout:  Amir Sadollah vs.  DaMarques Johnson
Welterweight bout:  Dan Hardy vs.  Anthony Johnson
Light Heavyweight bout:  Antônio Rogério Nogueira vs.  Phil Davis
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Post by: WrikaWrek on March 26, 2011, 10:04:46 PM
That GSP vs Shields promo is awesome.

Hope Shields puts up a fight.
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Post by: Boogie on March 26, 2011, 10:30:33 PM
JUNG BY TWISTER!

GAWDAMN!

EAT IT, GARCIA!
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Post by: BlackMage on March 27, 2011, 01:21:03 PM
JUNG BY TWISTER!

GAWDAMN!

EAT IT, GARCIA!
I want a korean zombie shirt :S
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Post by: Skidmark on April 06, 2011, 03:05:08 PM
[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMnX9J_PDUk[/youtube]
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Post by: OptimoPeach on April 06, 2011, 08:54:37 PM
I'm officially off the GSP bandwagon if he can't finish Shields. Sorry, Boogie. I've been patient enough!

FOTN will be Aldo and Hominick
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Post by: Boogie on April 06, 2011, 09:00:36 PM
bu-bu-bu what if it's a Fitch-esque drubbing?  :'(
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Post by: OptimoPeach on April 06, 2011, 09:16:55 PM
I could live with that. Then again, I almost think I want to see Shields finished more than I want to see GSP get a finish

Honestly, I'm more excited for the return of Aldo than anything else. I know Hominick's your boy, but I've been riding Aldo's jock ever since the Cub Swanson double knee TKO, and I would sooooo love to see him move up to LW after a few more title defenses and wreak havoc there. Seems like everyone forgot about him since he had to pull out of that last fight and Jon Jones stole the prospect spotlight

edt: Actually I dunno about that last part. Probably talking out my ass. I really don't even read any MMA forums or threads these days. The only reason I go to Sherdog anymore is for the video game forum :lol
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Post by: Stoney Mason on April 07, 2011, 05:14:40 PM
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UFC light heavyweight contender Thiago Silva on Thursday had his fight license revoked for one year and was fined $33,750 by the Nevada State Athletic Commission for tampering with his UFC 125 drug screen

The commission ruled that Silva's license will be revoked for one year from his Jan. 1 fight date and that the fighter must fork over 25 percent of his $55,000 fight purse ($13,750), as well as $20,000 of a $55,000 win bonus that he earned for dominating Brandon Vera at the MGM Grand Garden Arena in Las Vegas. That win has been changed to a no contest on Silva’s record. The earliest he will be allowed to reapply for a fight license is Jan. 2, 2012.

After Silva’s “A” test sample was flagged for banned substances by the commission following UFC 125, the fighter’s “B” sample was then tested. An inconclusive outcome resulted, and the NSAC filed a complaint against Silva, alleging that his sample was “not consistent with human urine” and therefore must have been altered.

One day after the commission filed its complaint, Silva issued a statement admitting his guilt in the matter.

“I re-injured my back 45 days before the fight with Brandon Vera. After not fighting for a year, I made the decision to not pull out of the fight,” wrote Silva. “I also decided that the only way I could continue with the fight was to take injections in my back and spine that contained substances prohibited by the Nevada Athletic Commission. I also made the decision to use a product to hide the presence of these substances in a urine test.”
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Post by: Stoney Mason on April 09, 2011, 09:16:21 AM
Strikeforce Card tonight


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Welterweight Championship bout:  Nick Diaz (c) vs.  Paul Daley[
Lightweight Championship bout:  Gilbert Melendez (c) vs.  Tatsuya Kawajiri
Light Heavyweight bout:  Gegard Mousasi vs.  Keith Jardine
Lightweight bout:  Shinya Aoki vs.  Lyle Beerbohm
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Post by: Stoney Mason on April 09, 2011, 11:37:11 PM
Daley Diaz was an entertaining fight.
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Post by: OptimoPeach on April 10, 2011, 12:27:46 AM
1. Nick Diaz is the most consistently entertaining fighter in the sport. Anyone that says otherwise is a butthurt prude

2. Gilbert Melendez would shit all over the UFC LW's

3. Aside from that awful, awful majority draw, that event couldn't have gone better for Zuffa. I'm expecting Dana's "We respect Strikefarce's contracts" bs to go out the window any day now

Why numbers? Idk
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Post by: chronovore on April 10, 2011, 12:32:42 AM
What can they do other than respect the contracts? Just trust that any fighter who wants to stay in the game is too afraid to sue them?
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Post by: OptimoPeach on April 10, 2011, 12:43:05 AM
Yeah I dunno. I'm clueless as to what contractual obligations are actually in place other than Showtime is still owed a certain amount of Strikeforce events (right?). All I know is the big merge can't come soon enough, and I thought it was funny how much they were pushing this already with Gus Johnson asking about unifying title fights and that poll at the end of the event

Also want to say that this was the best crowd ever :bow Booing that crap decision, booing Jake Shields, booing Cecil Peoples :bow2
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Post by: Boogie on April 10, 2011, 12:45:47 AM
was only able to half-watch the event, but


1. Nick Diaz is the most consistently entertaining fighter in the sport. Anyone that says otherwise is a butthurt prude

I am an unabashed Diaz hater, and that clouds me from acknowledging his entertainment value.  But, of course, a year from now, I will gladly  pay $60 (or $400, if the event is in Canada) to see GSP wrestlefuck Diaz into oblivion.

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2. Gilbert Melendez would shit all over the UFC LW's

Missed the Gil fight, but.....please.

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3. Aside from that awful, awful majority draw, that event couldn't have gone better for Zuffa. I'm expecting Dana's "We respect Strikefarce's contracts" bs to go out the window any day now


Trying to decipher the code of what will really happen with Strikeforce is anyone's guess at this point, I think.
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Post by: OptimoPeach on April 10, 2011, 01:10:05 AM
Come on, Boogie! Diaz is absolutely a shit-for-brains distinguished mentally-challenged fellow, but you can't deny his talent
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k so I'm (mostly) joking there. Serious as cancer regarding Melendez, though. Why not? At the risk of sounding like a UFC promo voice-over, he's shown marked improvements in every facet of his game from fight to fight since that '08 loss to Josh Thomson, and you're nuts if you think Frankie Edgar or Gray Maynard are going to have a GSP or Silva-esque reign in that division -- equally nuts if you'd even consider favoring anyone else (Florian? Jim Miller? Clay effing Guida?!) over him right now

I'm convinced this is all anti-Cesar Gracie camp hate stemming from your GSP crush and his upcoming fight with Shields :-*
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Post by: Boogie on April 10, 2011, 01:25:24 AM
Come on, Boogie! Diaz is absolutely a shit-for-brains distinguished mentally-challenged fellow, but you can't deny his talent
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k so I'm (mostly) joking there. Serious as cancer regarding Melendez, though. Why not? At the risk of sounding like a UFC promo voice-over, he's shown marked improvements in every facet of his game from fight to fight since that '08 loss to Josh Thomson, and you're nuts if you think Frankie Edgar or Gray Maynard are going to have a GSP or Silva-esque reign in that division -- equally nuts if you'd even consider favoring anyone else (Florian? Jim Miller? Clay effing Guida?!) over him right now

I'm convinced this is all anti-Cesar Gracie camp hate stemming from your GSP crush and his upcoming fight with Shields :-*

heh, interesting theory, but I don't hate Shields other than him being GSP's next victim.

And I have nothing against Gil.  I think he's undoubtedly a top 10 fighter, I just can't see how he has demonstrated that he could be the #1 guy.  He has a skillset that a half-dozen UFC guys have, and it's just hard to objectively see how his is better than Edgar/Maynard/Miller et al.  I think it's possible that Gil's ranking is inflated because SF's LW division is a tad on the thin side, and the UFC's has been a shark tank recently. But that's why they fight.  I do look forward to seeing where he does stack up.

The Diaz hate looooong predates GSP/Shields.  I hate his whole thug personality and his whining about money and wrestlers.  But I hate Daley just as much, so tonight was a wash for me.  :lol
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Post by: Stoney Mason on April 10, 2011, 10:07:45 AM
I've always enjoyed Diaz as a fighter which is separate debate from whether I think he could ever be a UFC champ in his weight class. (I don't). I would also like to see Melendez get a shot at the top UFC lightweights. He's been the most impressive fighter in all of Strikeforce for awhile now.

lol at the Mousasi draw last night. I have nothing against the man but I always love it when the nuthuggers get dealt a blow. (whether its a deserved blow or not)
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Post by: BlackMage on April 10, 2011, 10:14:51 AM

2. Gilbert Melendez would shit all over the UFC LW's


that's a pretty bold statement, dude. LW is one of UFC's deepest weight classes, imo.
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Post by: OptimoPeach on April 10, 2011, 03:30:17 PM
Yeah I'll admit I've sorta taken a liking to Melendez after hearing him a few times on the SRN. He's actually a pretty sharp guy despite what his after-fight verbal diarrhea on the mic would have you think

I dunno. I'm just not too high on anyone than Maynard and Edgar right now save for maybe Jim Miller, and I'd have to pick Melendez over any three of them. I can't volunteer much of an objective explanation for that, so call it a gut feeling lol. I'm a believer!

The division is deep, sure, but I think there's a pretty big void between that top three (maybe not so much Miller) and guys like Guida, Guillard, Pettis, Cerrone, Sotiropoulos, Henderson, and whoever else. Who else even is there anyway? Siver? lol. Sherk? Don't see him putting together a title run at this point in his career. I forgot that Florian is dropping to 145, and who knows what BJ is doing now

lol at the Mousasi draw last night. I have nothing against the man but I always love it when the nuthuggers get dealt a blow. (whether its a deserved blow or not)
I love good schadenfreude as much as anyone else, but this is getting ridiculous. Makes it very difficult to argue with the anti-wrestling Shertards and Gaffots when decisions like this are a regular occurrence. Apparently all you have to do to negate being outstruck 3:1 is land a couple takedowns, stall for 15 seconds, never attempt to pass or mount ANY offense at all, and then let your opponent stand back up. Oh yeah, can't forget the hick ref immediately deducting a point on an accidental infraction that did virtually no damage
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Post by: pilonv1 on April 10, 2011, 07:39:45 PM
1. Nick Diaz is the most consistently entertaining fighter in the sport. Anyone that says otherwise is a butthurt prude

I am an unabashed Diaz hater, and that clouds me from acknowledging his entertainment value.  But, of course, a year from now, I will gladly  pay $60 (or $400, if the event is in Canada) to see GSP wrestlefuck Diaz into oblivion.

I hate Diaz with a passion, but I too would pay money to see him beaten the fuck up.
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Post by: Boogie on April 15, 2011, 09:00:48 PM
[youtube=560,345]0LI7ic7ox88[/youtube]

side note:  this is the "combat sports" thread, but in 17 pages, has anyone ever actually discussed boxing within?  smh @ boxing
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Post by: Stoney Mason on April 15, 2011, 10:51:53 PM
http://www.hulu.com/watch/232618/ufc-primetime-st-pierre-vs-shields
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Post by: Boogie on April 15, 2011, 11:09:57 PM
http://www.hulu.com/watch/232618/ufc-primetime-st-pierre-vs-shields

Sucks that it aired at midnight for the States.

Sportsnet in Canada aired it at 8:30.

Although it didn't have a lot of meat, what with it being GSP's third Prime Time show, and Shields being boring, it was still pretty good.

Jon Danaher. :bow2

Also loved GSP not-so-subtly throwing Kos and Hardy under the bus: ""It’s the first guy for a while that I’m gonna fight that really is worth the challenge"

People say GSP is bland and boring, but it's little lines like that that make him awesome. :bow

also, was awesome to see all the Strikeforce footage when following Shields.
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Post by: Stoney Mason on April 23, 2011, 10:52:41 AM
http://www.hulu.com/watch/234934/ufc-primetime-episode-2
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Post by: dicklaurent on April 24, 2011, 07:47:39 PM
just caught up with the last year and a half of ufc the last two days. wow, the bones shogun fight. seemed like shogun wasn't that interested in fighting. but jon jones is really awesome.

some good stuff. brandon vera's nose against silva. some fat blonde guy against.. can't remember who "there's something in my eye. it's your eyelid" :lol andersonsilva vitor frontkicked the fuck out :drool (fat seagal before the silva fight :drool)
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Post by: Boogie on April 25, 2011, 09:53:24 PM
[youtube=560,345]HOx3q1nJCVk[/youtube]
 :lol
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Post by: Stoney Mason on April 25, 2011, 10:09:52 PM
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The grudge match will have to wait. So will Jon Jones' first title defense.

A hand injury has knocked the new UFC light-heavyweight champion out of action for the time being, leaving the UFC without a main event for its upcoming return to Philadelphia in August. As a result, the promotion has booked a fight pitting Jones' scheduled opponent Rashad Evans against rising star Phil Davis.

The UFC 133 fight was confirmed by the UFC on Monday morning. It was first reported by the Canadian Press.

The full extent of Jones' injury and his rehabilitation time is not yet known, according to a source with knowledge of the situation, though it is believed to be a torn ligament. The uncertain timetable was a key factor in the change.

Evans (15-1-1) has not fought since last May when he defeated Quinton "Rampage" Jackson via unanimous decision. Afterward, he was supposed to fight Mauricio "Shogun" Rua, choosing to wait for Rua to recover from knee surgery to fight him. As Rua neared healthy though, Evans suffered an injury of his own. He was replaced in the fight by Jon Jones, who knocked out Rua to become the youngest UFC champion ever.

As members of Team Greg Jackson, Evans and Jones had originally promised never to face each other, but that bond fractured even before Jones won the belt. In the weeks since, Evans left his longtime camp of Team Jackson and the two have traded barbs online.

The friendship turned into a grudge match, but Jones' injury will sideline it at least for the time being. The UFC has yet to announce whether Davis would become the No. 1 contender with a win over Evans.

The unbeaten Davis is 9-0, and most recently defeated Antonio Rogerio Nogueira via unanimous decision at a Fight Night event in March.

UFC 133 takes place on August 6 at the Wells Fargo Center.
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Post by: chronovore on April 26, 2011, 12:24:29 AM
Countdown to Rashad complaining about having to wait in 5, 4, 3, 2..
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Post by: pilonv1 on April 26, 2011, 08:10:33 AM
He's not waiting, he's going to fight Phil Davis, winner gets Jones.
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Post by: chronovore on April 26, 2011, 07:30:15 PM
Yeah, I'm sure it's no different in his head, going from a title shot to a #1 contender shot.  ::)
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Post by: Boogie on April 28, 2011, 07:36:39 PM
48 HOURS TO THE EVENT!!!!!!

GSP/SHIELDS FIGHTING IN FRONT OF 55,000 FANS IN THE SKYDOME!!!!!

A DUDE I'VE ACTUALLY TRAINED WITH FIGHTING FOR A GAWDAMNED UFC TITLE IN THE CO-MAIN!!!!!

AM I HYPED?   FUCK YEAH!!!!!!!!

[youtube=560,345]xC5UBQOUVOI[/youtube]
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Post by: Stoney Mason on April 28, 2011, 07:39:46 PM
lol. Good for you Boogie.

I can say I'm very excited for the main title fight but I actually think Couture Machida might be interesting and it seems a solid card overall.

It should be fun to see such a large crowd at an mma event.
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Post by: CajoleJuice on April 28, 2011, 07:46:05 PM
Wow, that's kinda insane for such a small octagon
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Post by: Boogie on April 28, 2011, 07:48:26 PM
Wow, that's kinda insane for such a small octagon

And my seats are shit.  :lol

Hell, my parents won kickass seats in a draw.  Soooo fucking jealous.  I should buy them out of one of them.  :lol

I'll be bringing binos and likely watching the screens the whole time otherwise.
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Post by: Boogie on April 28, 2011, 07:50:28 PM
lol. Good for you Boogie.

I can say I'm very excited for the main title fight but I actually think Couture Machida might be interesting and it seems a solid card overall.

It should be fun to see such a large crowd at an mma event.

The top three fights on the card are crazy.  Two title fights, and a fight between two former champions.  Everything after that is just icing.

Vladdy/Brilz is the only fight that is kinda meh and really shouldn't be on the main card.
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Post by: OptimoPeach on April 28, 2011, 07:52:49 PM
Hype hype hype

Are you going to the weigh-ins, Boogie?
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Post by: Boogie on April 28, 2011, 07:54:10 PM


Are you going to the weigh-ins, Boogie?

hells yeah

booked the day off of work, and just printed off my UFC fight club RSVP for the Q&A

AWKWARDLY WATCHING NEARLY NAKED MEN STANDING ON A SCALE :rock
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Post by: CajoleJuice on April 28, 2011, 07:57:03 PM
haha

I'll be watching on my friend's (dad's) new 55" HDTV. :rock
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Post by: Stoney Mason on April 29, 2011, 11:33:43 AM
[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FzmUhhB8SmA&feature=feedu[/youtube]
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Post by: Stoney Mason on April 29, 2011, 04:08:34 PM
http://sports.espn.go.com/extra/mma/columns/story?columnist=mcneil_franklin&id=6424823

 ::)

Why do they bother to write these kind of stories. So his stand-up has suddenly improved in a couple months after being shit his entire career inlcuding his last fight.
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Post by: Stoney Mason on April 30, 2011, 10:28:15 PM
Holy shit Machida just crane kicked Couture Karate Kid style and knocked him out.

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Post by: WrikaWrek on April 30, 2011, 10:31:38 PM
(http://www.sobrecarga.com.br/images/news0805/patmorrita.jpg)
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Post by: chronovore on April 30, 2011, 10:33:32 PM
Someone upload a .gif for us dirty foreigners.
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Post by: pilonv1 on April 30, 2011, 10:42:10 PM
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-3JpHX4OKbRI/TbzGYu9lOiI/AAAAAAAACkk/jA5QS1DzdpU/s1600/laters.gif)

there are places to watch online chrono
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Post by: chronovore on April 30, 2011, 11:04:01 PM
Really? I know not of these things. I'll d/l after the fact, I just wanted to see Machida take a chance on putting BOTH feet off the ground on a takedown artist like Randy. What a gamble!

Thanks for the .gif!
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Post by: pilonv1 on April 30, 2011, 11:17:41 PM
THERE IS A MUTANT ON MY SCREEN
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Post by: Stoney Mason on April 30, 2011, 11:22:40 PM
Homnick is gonna lose this fight but that was a heck of a 5th round after that massive head trauma
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Post by: pilonv1 on April 30, 2011, 11:25:26 PM
LOL 50-43 fucking idiot judges
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Post by: pilonv1 on April 30, 2011, 11:33:34 PM
well it was a mistake
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Post by: Stoney Mason on April 30, 2011, 11:49:31 PM
Look at that improved Shield's striking!


 ::)
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Post by: Stoney Mason on April 30, 2011, 11:56:16 PM
sigh. Well this boring.

Shields has nothing to offer here.
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Post by: Stoney Mason on May 01, 2011, 12:02:29 AM
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-3JpHX4OKbRI/TbzGYu9lOiI/AAAAAAAACkk/jA5QS1DzdpU/s1600/laters.gif)

there are places to watch online chrono


(http://www.pohrani.com/f/42/gv/3vqiZibw/seagal-kick.gif)
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Post by: Stoney Mason on May 01, 2011, 12:15:57 AM
Really boring fight which is why I never wanted to see this match-up. Not because either guy wasn't trying but because their styles were destined to create this match. Shields has shit stand up and a great ground game so GSP wasn't going to get in a ground war with him. He was going to slowly pick him apart on the feet but shields was going to be uber defensive on his feet so he didn't really get hurt. It felt like those Silva fights versus Leites and Maia which were also boring style matchups.  Shields was completely outclassed and couldn't do anything better than GSP so it lead to an ugly style fight. the fact that it wasn't GSP's most impressive performance didn't help either. Hopefully this spurs them to do the superfight. Does anybody really want to see GSP maul another outclassed welterweight for 5 rounds. 

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Post by: WrikaWrek on May 01, 2011, 12:21:36 AM
Worst main event i've ever seen. It was a sparring session.
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Post by: OptimoPeach on May 01, 2011, 12:21:54 AM
smh @ GSP. Mentally weak, and I don't care what anyone says. Worse than the worst of Anderson's bullshit. Hominick impressed me infinitely more

Machida's career-ending Karate Kid KO was worth the PPV price, though
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Post by: WrikaWrek on May 01, 2011, 12:24:28 AM
smh @ GSP. Mentally weak, and I don't care what anyone says. Worse than the worst of Anderson's bullshit. Hominick impressed me infinitely more

Machida's career-ending Karate Kid KO was worth the PPV price, though

The Dragon really gave Captain America an honorable death.
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Post by: Stoney Mason on May 01, 2011, 12:28:28 AM
Just to be clear I don't have anything against GSP fights. I think he fights smart. I don't think he necessarily needs to knock out his opponents for me to be entertained. I think normally he does very damaging stuff on the ground. All you generally have to do is look at his opponent after the fight to know they've gotten their ass kicked. That's impressive to me whether he stops them or not. Tonight wasn't a great looking fight in that regard. But every fighter even champions occasionally have a less than impressive outing.
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Post by: Skidmark on May 01, 2011, 12:36:39 AM
I am joining the gsp haters.
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Post by: Skidmark on May 01, 2011, 01:30:15 AM
(http://mit.zenfs.com/212/2011/04/bighominick.jpg)
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Post by: pilonv1 on May 01, 2011, 02:18:25 AM
GSP is the worst fucking fighter I've ever seen. I walked away after the second round, I wasn't keen on another 3 rounds of shadowboxing
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Post by: Boogie on May 01, 2011, 11:49:57 AM
GSP fight was shit.

Yep, I can admit it.  First time that I have been genuinely bored by GSP.  The eye injury can explain some of it, but he was fighting tentative and awkward even before that.  Those winging overhand rights?  I mean, it shows that you're throwing power shots trying to finish, but what happened to your varied striking game, Georges?

Anyway, outside of the ME, the event was INCREDIBLE.  Obviously the Canadian fighters all got pops.  Rory Macdonald started out with just a slight crowd reaction, but picked up enthusiasm throughout, and when he hit those slams?  OHMYGAWD the place went insane! 

Couture might have gotten the biggest reaction of the night.  Everyone was on their feet for his retirement sendoff. 

And my boy Hominick.  Fought his heart out, did better than a lot thought he would do.  And though he lost, that fifth round was a hell of a moral victory.  Crowd was ridiculous for that whole round.

Great experience.  If the main event had even been decent, it might have been the best UFC card ever.
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Post by: Stoney Mason on May 01, 2011, 11:55:55 AM
[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YCLGOYqmNxw[/youtube]


 :lol


I just can't tell if Machida and Anderson are trolling us or what.
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Post by: chronovore on May 01, 2011, 06:21:11 PM
(youtube=560,345)

 :lol


I just can't tell if Machida and Anderson are trolling us or what.


(http://i.imgur.com/SRlAE.jpg)
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Post by: Boogie on May 01, 2011, 08:21:12 PM
and damn if I wasn't wearing my heart on my sleeve for Mark's fight.

He got great cheers just for being a Canadian in a title fight at the start, but by that fifth round, he became a legitimate Canadian MMA favourite.  I wish he could have won the fight, but if he had to lose, this was the best it could have happened.  And I'm so glad my brotha got PAID for that fight.

Same for Rory Macdonald.  Mild pop to start with, but he earned his cheers by the end.

Two new Canadian stars were made last night, at least for this country.


And I think it definitely proved that the UFC can handle stadium shows.  The experience was just as good as in Montreal.  Better, actually, by virtue of a much stronger card and more amazing fights, even though I was further up (in the 500s).
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Post by: dicklaurent on May 01, 2011, 09:13:14 PM
hehehe. nice interview with seagal
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Post by: Stoney Mason on May 02, 2011, 02:51:26 PM
That's a pretty bad eye poke right there. I don't blame GSP for not being able to see.

(http://www.abload.de/img/gsp-eye-poke-om7rl.gif)
[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JEDAHzU5sr4[/youtube]
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Post by: pilonv1 on May 03, 2011, 11:28:24 PM
A one eyed GSP should still be able to fuck Shields over.
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Post by: T234 on May 04, 2011, 05:28:58 AM
Any word yet on how bad GSP's eye really is, like is there permanent damage?
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Post by: Skidmark on May 04, 2011, 05:40:41 AM
Any word yet on how bad GSP's eye really is, like is there permanent damage?
http://mmajunkie.com/news/23460/champ-georges-st-pierre-ok-after-ufc-129-eye-injury-expected-to-recover.mma
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Post by: Stoney Mason on May 07, 2011, 11:57:34 PM
Pacquiao versus Mosely is about to start. Should be an obvious dusting of Mosley by Pac but that's why they fight.
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Post by: Boogie on May 07, 2011, 11:58:34 PM
Pacquiao versus Mosely is about to start. Should be an obvious dusting of Mosley by Pac but that's why they fight.

Will be following the PBP with interest.
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Post by: Stoney Mason on May 08, 2011, 12:52:17 AM
Fight is over. As expected it was utterly one sided. They each got a knockdown but Pac being knocked down was more a wrestling move.
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Post by: Stoney Mason on May 12, 2011, 06:03:25 PM
http://sports.espn.go.com/extra/mma/news/story?id=6535275
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Post by: Skidmark on May 12, 2011, 08:34:19 PM
http://sports.espn.go.com/extra/mma/news/story?id=6535275
Chicken salad out of chicken shit, amiright?
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-QbvzElr-kqU/TctHdkRLqlI/AAAAAAAACyk/jTNW5j6DLvA/s1600/ccdance.gif)
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Post by: pilonv1 on May 12, 2011, 10:09:44 PM
poor brock :(
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Post by: Stoney Mason on May 28, 2011, 09:12:58 AM
Not an especially good card tonight.

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Preliminary card (Facebook)

Bantamweight bout:  Renan Barão vs.  Cole Escovedo
Bantamweight bout:  Michael McDonald vs.  Chris Cariaso
Lightweight bout:  Gleison Tibau vs.  Rafaello Oliveira



Preliminary card (Spike TV)

Middleweight bout:  Kendall Grove vs.  Tim Boetsch
Bantamweight bout:  Miguel Torres vs.  Demetrious Johnson



Main card

Middleweight bout:  Brian Stann vs.  Jorge Santiago
Welterweight bout:  Thiago Alves vs.  Rick Story
Heavyweight bout:  Stefan Struve vs.  Travis Browne
Heavyweight bout:  Frank Mir vs.  Roy Nelson
Light Heavyweight bout:  Quinton Jackson vs.  Matt Hamill
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Post by: Skidmark on May 28, 2011, 07:20:28 PM
My picks:
Jackson
Nelson
Struve
Thiago
Santiago
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Post by: Skidmark on May 29, 2011, 12:53:32 AM
Mir to hospital with broken jaw, Struve, Santiago to hospital to be checked. Stann has a broken thumb but doesn't care. #typicalMarine

http://twitter.com/#!/ufc/status/74688805352914944
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Post by: chronovore on May 29, 2011, 07:04:12 AM
I saw your broken jaw comment and was seriously worried for a moment or two.
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Post by: Boogie on June 01, 2011, 07:47:04 PM
GSP/Diaz, October 29th, in Vegas.

Nick Diaz, prepare to get wrestlefucked. :rock
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Post by: Stoney Mason on June 01, 2011, 11:01:22 PM
Good on Dana for making the fight. And I like Diaz and will root for him for the upset but it seems highly unlikely he will be able to deal with the wrestling of GSP.
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Post by: chronovore on June 02, 2011, 12:06:52 AM
What are your guys' thoughts on Fedor vs. Hendo?
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Post by: Stoney Mason on June 02, 2011, 10:05:39 PM
What are your guys' thoughts on Fedor vs. Hendo?

It's hard to get a sense on how much Fedor really has left. But at this point I think Hendo could beat him.
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Post by: Boogie on June 02, 2011, 10:10:38 PM
What are your guys' thoughts on Fedor vs. Hendo?

I'm surprisingly indifferent on the fight.
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Post by: chronovore on June 02, 2011, 10:49:22 PM
One thing's for sure, Hendo is definitely going to be training his ass off.
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Post by: Stoney Mason on June 18, 2011, 09:14:57 PM
Good HW fight tonight

Heavyweight Grand Prix Quarterfinal bout:  Alistair Overeem vs.  Fabricio Werdum
Heavyweight Grand Prix Quarterfinal bout:  Josh Barnett vs.  Brett Rogers
Lightweight bout:  K.J. Noons vs.  Jorge Masvidal
Heavyweight bout:  Daniel Cormier vs.  Jeff Monson
Heavyweight bout:  Valentijn Overeem vs.  Chad Griggs
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Post by: Stoney Mason on June 19, 2011, 12:00:40 AM
Shit fight between Overeem and Werdum. Both of these guys would get dusted in the UFC by the top guys.
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Post by: chronovore on June 19, 2011, 02:04:08 AM
Yeah, the PRIDE guys are largely past their prime now. Rampage and Anderson Silva withstanding.
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Post by: pilonv1 on June 20, 2011, 02:43:15 AM
Shit fight between Overeem and Werdum. Both of these guys would get dusted in the UFC by the top guys.

Werdum got dusted by 2007-08 UFC heavyweights.
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Post by: pilonv1 on June 27, 2011, 09:02:02 AM
everyone needs to go out of their way to check out the UFC on Versus main event of Barry v Kongo

also :lol @ Marquardt
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Post by: chronovore on June 27, 2011, 09:06:59 AM
So... Marquardt was having a little trouble reaching his ideal weight? Maybe he was investing in protein supplements?
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Post by: pilonv1 on June 28, 2011, 02:04:49 AM
Not a weight cutting issue, it's a medical issue. Will be revealed tomorrow, Penn has some stringent privacy laws regarding medical stuff
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Post by: chronovore on June 28, 2011, 09:21:34 AM
Marquardt's a transsexual?! I knew Dana hated the idea of women in the Octagon, but I never thought he'd take it this far!
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Post by: pilonv1 on June 28, 2011, 07:33:44 PM
Turns out he's just a dumbshit
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Post by: chronovore on June 29, 2011, 07:54:15 AM
What's the deal with "Testosterone Replacement Therapy"...? I'd never heard of it before MMA, and here there seem to be a number of these fighters being treated for it. Is it just an easy, theoretically legal loophole in the rules against doping?
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Post by: Stoney Mason on June 29, 2011, 07:59:23 AM
I've been late to this story since I've been out of town.  Not exactly sure what happened. Why is Dana so upset here versus the Sonnen situation which didn't seem to bother him at all?
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Post by: chronovore on June 29, 2011, 08:01:41 AM
Because Dana doesn't like Anderson Silva and Chael almost kicked Anderson's ass? And Nate is almost always the almost-top-contender?

There is a very biased but insightful article, here:
http://www.mmamania.com/2011/6/29/2249566/nate-marquardt-chael-sonnen-and-testosterone-replacement-therapy-in
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Post by: Stoney Mason on June 29, 2011, 08:14:53 AM
Yeah that's what bothers me. Admittedly I haven't read up about everything on this issue but it seems like Nate handled this situation comparatively well to someone like Sonnen. And all Dana does is kiss Sonnen's ass and he seems to have thrown Nate under the bus here.
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Post by: pilonv1 on June 29, 2011, 08:43:49 AM
What's the deal with "Testosterone Replacement Therapy"...? I'd never heard of it before MMA, and here there seem to be a number of these fighters being treated for it. Is it just an easy, theoretically legal loophole in the rules against doping?

Right, here's the deal

If you go to a doctor and have low testosterone (pay attention later), you can get a doctor to prescribe you shots to raise your testosterone to your normal level. Nate was taking this therapy, took some shots a number of weeks before the fight and by the time he had to take his medical the levels were still too high.

Only two fighters in Nevada history have been licenced for testosterone replacement - Dan Henderson and Todd Duffee. The Sonnen situation was completely different, he made up about 100 stories including he had talked to Nevada State Athletic Commision head Keith Kizer (he didn't) who said it was ok for him to take it, he didn't put his therapy on the pre-fight medical sheet, also claimed he was having the therapy twice a week which is more regular than usual as well. This is also along with his real estate licence fiasco.

So anyway what can cause your testosterone to drop? Cycling off steroids, since your testosterone levels are through the roof when you're using them. Why is this important?

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Although his debut ended in success – Marquardt earned a decision victory over UFC veteran Ivan Salaverry – post-fight drug testing controversy led to Marquardt's suspension by the Nevada State Athletic Commission. Marquardt tested positive for high levels of nandrolone, an anabolic steroid, which led the commission to file for his suspension. Marquardt maintains that he only used over-the-counter supplements in preparation for his fight.

Common way of getting legal testosterone replacement for wrestlers is to get tested when they're off their cycle so their testosterone is at it's lowest.

Almost everyone in MMA is on something. Current drug testing which is at weigh ins or day of the fight is basically an IQ test.
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Post by: chronovore on June 29, 2011, 08:55:14 AM
Ah, thanks.

So you're saying they're both on drugs.  :-\
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Post by: pilonv1 on July 31, 2011, 07:51:01 AM
ahahahahhahahahaha

title change pls
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Post by: Stoney Mason on July 31, 2011, 12:07:18 PM
Didn't see the fight but yeah, you know it's bad when Fedor losing again isn't even big news.
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Post by: CajoleJuice on July 31, 2011, 12:53:43 PM
God is dead, Boogie
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Post by: pilonv1 on July 31, 2011, 11:21:15 PM
CHANGE THE TITLE FFS
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Post by: CajoleJuice on July 31, 2011, 11:37:20 PM
i don't think any mods enter this thread

and the OP is gone
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Post by: pilonv1 on August 01, 2011, 02:56:10 AM
awesome work _b
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Post by: chronovore on August 03, 2011, 07:29:35 PM
Fedor's -got- to retire now, right? I bet those M-1 entourage dicks are peeing in their pants now.
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Post by: Boogie on August 03, 2011, 08:58:38 PM
God is dead, Boogie

I worship at the altar of GSP now.
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Post by: pilonv1 on August 03, 2011, 09:43:50 PM
God I hope Diaz talks some shit
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Post by: CajoleJuice on August 04, 2011, 09:09:10 PM
God is dead, Boogie

I worship at the altar of GSP now.

Silva > GSP

HOLY WAR
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Post by: Skidmark on August 06, 2011, 01:12:58 PM
Here are my picks for tonight:
http://www.combatpicks.com/user/Exposed_knees#ufc-133-evans-vs-ortiz
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Post by: OptimoPeach on August 06, 2011, 01:16:51 PM
Hope someone's there to hide Boogie's gun after Nick Diaz gogoplatas GSP :teehee

Probably won't even watch tonight. This could have easily been a Spike card, and Tito vs Rashad is all but guaranteed to be another snoozetacular crapfest
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Post by: Stoney Mason on August 06, 2011, 02:03:52 PM
Not a good card but I'll watch this evening.
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Post by: T234 on August 06, 2011, 10:34:00 PM
Daaamn.
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Post by: Boogie on August 15, 2011, 12:07:57 AM
Yesterday, renowned MMA trainer, and my karate sensei growing up, Shawn Tompkins, died.

Rest in Peace, Sensei Shawn. :(
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Post by: chronovore on August 15, 2011, 07:53:03 AM
 :'(

That's some sad news. I wonder what my old instructors are doing at this point.
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Post by: pilonv1 on August 16, 2011, 02:22:37 AM
sad news

meanwhile Ben Henderson is an animal
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Post by: chronovore on August 16, 2011, 07:26:52 AM
I'm sad to see Lytle go. He was never going to be a champ, but he always put on a hell of a show. I think he's leaving it for all the right reasons, though.
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Post by: Bildi on August 17, 2011, 01:33:26 AM
I thought the Lytle-Hardy fight was a little boring.  Nice to see Lytle go out on a win though.

It was interesting to see Henderson walk all over Miller.
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Post by: Stoney Mason on August 18, 2011, 09:28:54 PM
http://espn.go.com/mma/story/_/id/6874530/ufc-reaches-seven-year-broadcast-deal-fox-networks
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Post by: pilonv1 on August 19, 2011, 02:20:24 AM
Joe isn't commentating UFC 134 :(
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Post by: chronovore on August 19, 2011, 08:28:52 AM
Joe isn't commentating UFC 134 :(

WAT? WAT?
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Post by: T234 on August 19, 2011, 11:04:28 AM
Getting his tonsils taken out.
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Post by: chronovore on August 19, 2011, 06:29:44 PM
Getting his tonsils taken out.

Ah, OK. That would put a damper on things.
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Post by: Stoney Mason on August 27, 2011, 09:53:09 AM
UFC Rio is tonight.

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Preliminary Card (Facebook)
Bantamweight bout:  Yves Jabouin vs.  Ian Loveland
Featherweight bout:  Yuri Alcantara vs.  Felipe Arantes
Welterweight bout:  Erick Silva vs.  Luis Ramos
Bantamweight bout:  Raphael Assunção vs.  Johnny Eduardo
Welterweight bout:  Paulo Thiago vs.  David Mitchell


Preliminary Card (Televised)
Middleweight bout:  Rousimar Palhares vs.  Dan Miller
Lightweight bout:  Thiago Tavares vs.  Spencer Fisher


Main Card
Light Heavyweight bout:  Luiz Cane vs.  Stanislav Nedkov
Lightweight bout:  Ross Pearson vs.  Edson Barboza
Heavyweight bout:  Antônio Rodrigo Nogueira vs.  Brendan Schaub
Light Heavyweight bout:  Maurício Rua vs.  Forrest Griffin
Middleweight Championship:  Anderson Silva (c) vs.  Yushin Okami
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Post by: CajoleJuice on August 27, 2011, 09:53:36 AM
I just want my power is stay on long enough to see Silva-Okami. :(
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Post by: chronovore on August 27, 2011, 09:54:38 AM
Does Okami have a chance? He's not injecting testosterone into his ass like Chael, nor does he appear fueled by homophobic, nationalistic rage like Chael...
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Post by: Stoney Mason on August 27, 2011, 10:24:54 AM
I'm glad the UFC finally rewarded Okami with the title shot. He was one of their top whipping boys for years now.
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Post by: CajoleJuice on August 27, 2011, 11:06:36 PM
lol okami

silva vs jones plz
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Post by: chronovore on August 27, 2011, 11:57:49 PM
Damnit.
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Post by: Stoney Mason on August 28, 2011, 07:12:37 AM
Just watched the okami versus Silva fight.
 :lol :lol :lol
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Post by: Stoney Mason on August 28, 2011, 07:54:03 AM
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-rl6Sii6o5qk/TlmwjRYXTRI/AAAAAAAAEv8/hJTb7x3EN2c/s1600/3.gif)
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-NrlVZaPG0L0/TlmwlYotztI/AAAAAAAAEwA/q-5py5XVHFU/s1600/4.gif)
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-bCYIHgya41w/TlmwtOfe2mI/AAAAAAAAEwE/_FtUszg2MV4/s1600/5.gif)
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-4A3MlymUC9o/Tlmw0rHOcOI/AAAAAAAAEwI/JFH1-bLFZQg/s1600/6.gif)
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Post by: pilonv1 on August 28, 2011, 08:03:01 AM
:bow ANDERSON :bow2
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Post by: chronovore on September 07, 2011, 04:17:45 AM
http://espn.go.com/mma/story/_/id/6937472/brock-lesnar-alistair-overeem-fight-set-dec-30-vegas
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Post by: Boogie on September 07, 2011, 07:42:33 PM
Nick Diaz no shows to two press conferences after Dana spends 15k on airline tickets for him and his posse.

Cesar Gracie even went so far as to leave his own son's birthday party in order to try and drive Diaz to the airport.

Dana says "Fuck this" and pulls Diaz, gives the title shot to Condit.

 :lol @ Nick Diaz.

Just hope BJ gets a good replacement opponent.
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Post by: BlackMage on September 07, 2011, 07:48:36 PM
Nick Diaz no shows to two press conferences after Dana spends 15k on airline tickets for him and his posse.

Cesar Gracie even went so far as to leave his own son's birthday party in order to try and drive Diaz to the airport.

Dana says "Fuck this" and pulls Diaz, gives the title shot to Condit.

 :lol @ Nick Diaz.

Just hope BJ gets a good replacement opponent.

the best part is. A lot of people are blaming Dana for ruining the card.  :lol
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Post by: Stoney Mason on September 07, 2011, 08:49:47 PM
lame
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Post by: pilonv1 on September 07, 2011, 09:54:30 PM
lol Diaz

no one wants to see Carlos Condit :(
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Post by: Boogie on September 07, 2011, 10:11:18 PM
Too busy to make a phone call to Dana White.

Too busy to let his trainer drive him to the airport.

Not too busy to film a video in his car and post it on youtube.

[youtube=560,345]a4EbRnFn0Tg[/youtube]

Diaz, you stupid fuck:

[youtube=560,345]4KoKWf6pLs8[/youtube]
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Post by: OptimoPeach on September 07, 2011, 10:21:01 PM
Career over

And now we're stuck with fucking Condit? I knew yesterday with Overeem vs Lesnar was too good to last
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Post by: Stoney Mason on September 07, 2011, 10:26:51 PM
I thought GSP would wrestlefuck Diaz pretty easily and win anyway and maybe actually conduit is a better fight for GSP but I still would have preferred to see the diaz fight.
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Post by: BlackMage on September 07, 2011, 10:29:04 PM
Career over

And now we're stuck with fucking Condit? I knew yesterday with Overeem vs Lesnar was too good to last

I think Condit/GSP is a better fight, personally.
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Post by: OptimoPeach on September 07, 2011, 11:28:39 PM
I don't think Condit offers much more if anything on the feet, and we all know what would happen on the ground. GSP probably would have driven Diaz through the mat like he probably will Condit, but I'd still much rather watch Diaz work off his back

Also, in that video he pronounced Condit's name as Conduit :lol
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Post by: chronovore on September 08, 2011, 05:18:22 AM
Another angry young man has no-one but himself to blame for his situation. What an idiot.
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Post by: Stoney Mason on September 08, 2011, 10:50:37 AM
I don't think Condit offers much more if anything on the feet, and we all know what would happen on the ground. GSP probably would have driven Diaz through the mat like he probably will Condit, but I'd still much rather watch Diaz work off his back

Also, in that video he pronounced Condit's name as Conduit :lol

lulz. I think I've always thought and spelled it conduit for some reason also.
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Post by: Skidmark on September 08, 2011, 01:02:04 PM

[youtube=560,345]a4EbRnFn0Tg[/youtube]

Category:
Education
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Post by: OptimoPeach on September 08, 2011, 11:15:42 PM
http://www.sherdog.com/news/news/Penn-Diaz-On-for-UFC-137-in-Las-Vegas-35424

lol

Oookay
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Post by: Himu on September 11, 2011, 08:29:40 PM
Boogie suggests I check out and research the most popular mma fighters so i can get into it.

UFC is the most popular mma league, right?

List some names, niccas. Especially boogie. I'm researching the rules of MMA right now.
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Post by: Boogie on September 11, 2011, 08:46:51 PM
Boogie suggests I check out and research the most popular mma fighters so i can get into it.

UFC is the most popular mma league, right?

List some names, niccas. Especially boogie. I'm researching the rules of MMA right now.

UFC is the big dog, the NFL, of MMA.

Strikeforce is the #2 league, Bellator the #3.

From 97-2007, the Japanese organization Pride was actually bigger than the UFC.  You'll probably like Pride events for the showmanship and spectacle, himu.  They had some all time great fights.

Current top fighters:

Heavyweight

Heavyweight champion of the world is Cain Velasquez.  Exciting wrestler with good striking.  He destroyed Brock Lesnar in a comical fight last year to win the title.  His fights against Nogueira and Cheick Kongo were also very good.

Velasquez is fighting Junior Dos Santos on Fox in November.  Dos Santos is primarily a boxer.  Check out his fights against Fabricio Werdum and Shane Carwin.

Next two heavyweights are Brock Lesnar and Alistair Overeem.  They'll be fighting each other December 30.

Light Heavyweight

Champ is Jon "Bones" Jones.  Young gun, only been in the sport a few years, but is a wrecking machine.  Check out any of his fights, they are all one-sided destructions.

Lyoto Machida is a former champ.  He's very "Ryu from street fighter"-esque, you might like him. 

Quentin "Rampage" Jackson is fighting Jones for the title in just a couple weeks.

Middleweight

Anderson Silva.  That's all.  Check out his destruction of Yushin Okami, Vitor Belfort, Forrest Griffin, and his amazing come from behind fight against Chael Sonnen.  Anderson has had some stinkers too, but his best performances are amazing.

Welterweight

Georges St. Pierre.  My mancrush.  Second best in the world pound-for-pound next to Anderson.  Check out his trilogy against Matt Hughes, his beating of Jon Fitch and BJ Penn.  The two Matt Serra fights to see him lose and get revenge.

BJ Penn.  Former lightweight and welterweight champion.  Always exciting.

Lightweight

Current champion is Frankie Edgar.  Will fight Gray Maynard for a third time soon.  Check out their second fight, it's an all-time classic.

Featherweight

Champ is Jose Aldo.  All of his fights are great, but his most recent fight against Hominick is a classic.



Classic fighters

Fedor Emelianenko used to be THE heavyweight no one could beat.  He's fallen apart in the past year, but before that, he was amazing.  Watch his three matches against Nogueira, his fight against Mirko Crocop Filipovic, and Kevin Randleman and Fujita.

Mirko "Crocop" Filipovic.  When he was in Pride, he scared people shitless.  In one interview, when asked what happens when someone gets kicked by him.  He shrugged and said "It depends.  Right leg, hospital.  Left leg, cemetary."

Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira.  Watch his fights against Mirko and Fedor.  Classics.
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Post by: Himu on September 11, 2011, 08:48:57 PM
Thanks a lot. In boxing I always gravitated towards lightweights, probably because I like fast fighters. So I'll start there first.

Do MMA rules change depending on the league?
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Post by: Boogie on September 11, 2011, 08:52:35 PM
Thanks a lot. In boxing I always gravitated towards lightweights, probably because I like fast fighters. So I'll start there first.

Do MMA rules change depending on the league?

Other lighter weight fighters to check out then would be:  Kenny Florian, Urijah Faber, Takanori Gomi (his fights in Pride, he's fallen off lately)

Rules are pretty uniform now, but they used to vary.

Pride allowed soccer kicks, stomps, and knees to an opponent on the ground, while UFC did not allow those techniques.  UFC allowed elbows to an opponent's head on the ground, while Pride did not.  The UFC's rules are the ones that continue to be in use.  Pride rules have pretty much died out.
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Post by: pilonv1 on September 11, 2011, 08:54:29 PM
No mention of Clay Guida for lighter fighters? Guy never has a bad fight.
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Post by: Boogie on September 11, 2011, 08:56:19 PM
online sites to follow:

bloodyelbow.com is a very good catch-all blog for news and analysis.

fightlinker.com is the "snarky shit-talking" blog of MMA.

middleeasy.com is a quirky MMA blog.

and the most entertaining historical MMA articles are the cracked.com articles by Seanbaby.

sherdog.com is the biggest MMA news site, but is kinda lame.  It does have a complete fight database, so you can look up fighters' records.
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Post by: Boogie on September 11, 2011, 08:57:56 PM
No mention of Clay Guida for lighter fighters? Guy never has a bad fight.

Okay, yeah, I should have mentioned Clay.  (though he does have a couple of snoozers on his record.  The Pettis fight was not so exciting, neither was his fight against Nate Diaz.)
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Post by: pilonv1 on September 11, 2011, 09:04:21 PM
Yes those sucked, but more often than not they're good.

Also Himu check out some WEC events, I don't think there was ever a WEC that wasn't at least good and most were awesome.

Some Kid Yamamoto fights from Pride/K1 are good too, he was super over.
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Post by: CajoleJuice on September 11, 2011, 09:06:22 PM
Bloody Elbow rocks

/SBNation homer
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Post by: Boogie on September 11, 2011, 09:07:53 PM
Yeah, pretty much every WEC event from the last three years of its existence rocked.

(himu, WEC was a second-tier league that was bought by and eventually incorporated into the UFC.  It mostly featured lighter fighters)
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Post by: Himu on September 11, 2011, 09:51:48 PM
edgar vs maynard :o
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Post by: Himu on September 12, 2011, 09:13:23 PM
[youtube=560,345]QGI5WvtDVk0[/youtube]

oh my GAWD :rofl
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Post by: Stoney Mason on September 12, 2011, 09:28:45 PM
[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iyhsDZna6AE[/youtube]
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Post by: Himu on September 12, 2011, 09:35:54 PM
[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iyhsDZna6AE[/youtube]

 :o
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Post by: BlackMage on September 12, 2011, 09:44:58 PM
my favorite fighter is Stephan Bonnar.. he's hilarious
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Post by: pilonv1 on September 13, 2011, 08:51:22 AM
Yes, Bonnar is so great. Loved his work on the WEC shows
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Post by: Himu on September 15, 2011, 10:38:04 PM
Watched WEC tonight. Very impressed. I'm going to be sticking with this stuff.

Really interesting fights tonight: tapouts, leg locks, leg lock escapes, and lefts so powerful they knock opponents to the ground with one square hit to the jaw.

Amazing display of athleticism, this sport. Just like I thought: wrestling without the bullshit, but more interesting than standard boxing.
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Post by: chronovore on September 16, 2011, 03:56:10 AM
http://sports.yahoo.com/mma/news?slug=mmajunkie-Diaz_St-Pierre_UFC_137
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"I'm not trying to make all these little excuses," Diaz today told MMAjunkie.com (www.mmajunkie.com). "If I'd have known the fight was going to be off, I would have [expletive] gone to the press conference, or I would have told somebody, 'Hey, if I don't make it to this stupid [expletive], I'm not fighting.' I think that people would have gotten me there. I think people would have come and gave two [expletive] and gotten me to that press conference."

There were reasons that didn't happen, but Diaz wants to make it perfectly clear he's not trying to shift the blame. There was the lost passport that prevented him from making it Canada, and to be honest, Diaz admits he really didn't even realize why he was supposed to be getting on the plane. Had he known his shot at St-Pierre depended on his attendance, there certainly would have been a little more importance placed on compliance. However, Diaz thought it was little more than a video shoot that was more distraction than destination.

"I didn't even know there was a press conference," Diaz said. "I thought it was some PR thing. People were trying to tell me, 'You're going to do this skit' and that I was going to be a part of some PR skit where I had this part where I was walking through a hall, kind of like that scene Jake Shields did. I was like, 'What the [expletive]? Are you kidding?' So I'm thinking, 'Somebody better come over here and tell me what I'm doing and get me ready to go do it so I don't look like an [expletive].' That's how I feel when you're coming to get me ready for something I'm not ready for.

I dunno, I think, if I were a fighter who was going up for the belt in a fight worth several hundreds of thousands of dollars, I probably would have consulted my manager to make sure my DayPlanner was filled with all the stuff I have to do.

Because, you know:
- BELT.
- DOLLARS.

Edit: moar dollars than I thought...
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/851657-ufc-137-nick-diaz-loses-one-million-dollars-in-swith-to-bj-penn-fight
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Post by: Boogie on September 16, 2011, 09:07:23 AM
Glad to see you're getting hooked, himu.

Remember, there's a live UFC event on Versus tomorrow night.  Though the card is kind of mediocre.

But next weekend has the Jones/Rampage championship PPV.


Also:  Nick Diaz is functionally distinguished mentally-challenged.
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Post by: chronovore on September 16, 2011, 10:29:28 AM
If by that you mean "he can function as a fighter, but he's distinguished mentally-challenged," you may be on to something, Boogiez.
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Post by: Himu on September 18, 2011, 01:03:08 AM
Ellenberger knocked the SHIT out of Shields  :lol
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Post by: Positive Touch on September 18, 2011, 01:44:01 AM
 :bow MAYWEATHER FUCK YEAH :bow2
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Post by: Himu on September 18, 2011, 01:45:58 AM
:bow MAYWEATHER FUCK YEAH :bow2

my entire facebook front page is all on this  :lol
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Post by: Positive Touch on September 18, 2011, 01:58:38 AM
"oh boo hoo that was a waste of money!!  sob he's such a bitch"  NO PEOPLE THAT WAS AWESOME

oritz got stupid and mayweather fuckin crushed him.  WHOOPS

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Post by: Stoney Mason on September 18, 2011, 03:50:20 AM
There are very few human beings I would say I'd be glad to have dead. Evil dictators, crazy murders, are the types who fit into that category for me along with Floyd Mayweather. Great fighter. Complete shitbag of a person.

[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1zPNsdRzsmk[/youtube]
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Post by: pilonv1 on September 19, 2011, 02:30:56 AM
How is he scared? Manny is the one who won't take the drug tests.

Not saying that knock out isn't classless but I hate the "Floyd is scurred" attack. If you were clean you'd take the tests.
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Post by: OptimoPeach on September 23, 2011, 11:23:08 PM
Rampage is gonna get fucked UP tomorrow

Jon Jones can snitch on all the stoners he wants as long as he keeps demolishing everyone
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Post by: Boogie on September 23, 2011, 11:33:56 PM
Rampage is gonna get fucked UP tomorrow

Jon Jones can snitch on all the stoners he wants as long as he keeps demolishing everyone

Pretty much.

The GAF douche brigade keeps saying the same things for Jones/Rampage that they were for Jones/Shogun.  They're soooo butthurt that Jones beat Shogun that it is clouding the fact that it is unlikely Rampage is going to win.
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Post by: Stoney Mason on September 23, 2011, 11:52:55 PM
Rampage is gonna get fucked UP tomorrow

Jon Jones can snitch on all the stoners he wants as long as he keeps demolishing everyone

I love Rampage but he is going to get smashed by Jon Jones.
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Post by: Boogie on September 23, 2011, 11:56:17 PM
Here's the style problem for Rampage as I see it:

Jones' freaky reach means a striking battle at range is not going to go well for the 'Page.

So, in theory, Rampage would want to get inside and work punches from in close.

But *oops*, you can't get into clinch range with Jones, because his Greco/Judo style throws are God-tier.  So if Rampage does that he just gets dumped on his back.

Now, Rampage has very underrated defence on the ground, but almost no one attacks on the ground like Jones does.

It's not that Rampage has no chance.  It's just that he's not the smart bet.
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Post by: Stoney Mason on September 24, 2011, 12:02:36 AM
My problem with Rampage is that his UFC game has simply become the better striking version of Chuck Liddell and I think against really balanced fighters that style won't work or more accurately will be tough to implement against a top flight elite like Jones. He doesn't take anybody down anymore. He doesn't use leg kicks. He uses his superior striking to stay away and look for the big shots.

I just think Jones is bigger and stronger. And while Rampage tends to have pretty good take down defense in recent times and can take a punch he starts so slow I just don't see him having a chance against Jones. I think it will either be a crushing by jones or a fairly boring defense fight where neither guy takes a lot of damage but Jones does the superior striking and damage via his all around game.

I am pumped for the fight as I like both guys but Jones seems too young and too good for Rampage.

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Post by: Boogie on September 24, 2011, 12:22:24 AM
My problem with Rampage is that his UFC game has simply become the better striking version of Chuck Liddell and I think against really balanced fighters that style won't work or more accurately will be tough to implement against a top flight elite like Jones. He doesn't take anybody down anymore. He doesn't use leg kicks. He uses his superior striking to stay away and look for the big shots.


You know, I'm quite surprised at how spot-on that comparison is, because I've never made the connection.

Rampage = Chuck Liddell with tighter boxing fundamentals.

Both had a sprawl and brawl style, with a gameplan of solid takedown defence and powerful punches on offence.

Neither use kicks practically at all.

When taken down, both defend submissions well, but their priority and skill is in getting back to their feet.

Both have proven very vulnerable to leg kicks.

Both rely heavily on their chins to make up for holes in their boxing defence (though obviously Liddell's chin failed him at the end of his career, and Liddell had greater holes in his defence)

I think you nailed it there, Stoney.
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Post by: Himu on September 24, 2011, 03:41:17 AM
Tomorrow is my first UFC PPV  :-[
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Post by: T234 on September 24, 2011, 04:02:22 AM
Watching the PPV over STANK BLUNTS tomorrow. I am excite.

Either way it goes, I think the main event is gonna be a beating on the level of Black-on-Black crime.

I hope Koschek gets beat like a drum.
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Post by: pilonv1 on September 24, 2011, 06:50:41 AM
Tomorrow is my first UFC PPV  :-[

Make sure you catch the prelims on Facebook and Spike TV
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Post by: pilonv1 on September 24, 2011, 06:51:59 AM
Here's the style problem for Rampage as I see it:

Jones' freaky reach means a striking battle at range is not going to go well for the 'Page.

So, in theory, Rampage would want to get inside and work punches from in close.

But *oops*, you can't get into clinch range with Jones, because his Greco/Judo style throws are God-tier.  So if Rampage does that he just gets dumped on his back.

Now, Rampage has very underrated defence on the ground, but almost no one attacks on the ground like Jones does.

It's not that Rampage has no chance.  It's just that he's not the smart bet.

If Jones has been training leg kicks of any sort its going to be a demolition. I cannot wait
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Post by: Stoney Mason on September 24, 2011, 10:30:50 AM
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Preliminary Card (Facebook)
Light Heavyweight bout:  James Te Huna vs.  Ricardo Romero
Bantamweight bout:  Takeya Mizugaki vs.  Cole Escovedo
Featherweight bout:  Junior Assunção vs.  Eddie Yagin


Preliminary Card (televised)
Middleweight bout:  Nick Ring vs.  Tim Boetsch
Lightweight bout:  Tony Ferguson vs.  Aaron Riley


Main Card
Lightweight bout:  Nate Diaz vs.  Takanori Gomi
Heavyweight bout:  Travis Browne vs.  Rob Broughton
Heavyweight bout:  Ben Rothwell vs.  Mark Hunt
Welterweight bout:  Matt Hughes vs.  Josh Koscheck
Light Heavyweight Championship:  Jon Jones (c) vs.  Quinton Jackson
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Post by: pilonv1 on September 24, 2011, 10:56:36 AM
So excited for this show

Plus Hunt (NZ) and Te Huna (AUS), some locals to cheer for.
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Post by: OptimoPeach on September 24, 2011, 09:21:54 PM
AHAHAHA

I love the Diaz brothers. Fuck the haters. Fuck Gomi

I wish I wasn't banned from GAF right now

Complete ownage. Now he just needs to learn how to talk
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Post by: OptimoPeach on September 24, 2011, 11:26:29 PM
How utterly predictable

and yet still entertaining!

Kinda funny seeing Jones not able to just throw his opponent around, though. For all of his supposed versatility, he missed so many opportunities in the clinch to drive his knees through Rampage's fat head. But I guess he'll have plenty of time to hone his craft. At this point, I don't give anyone at 205 a chance against him except for Machida, and I can't believe I'm saying that.

Those heavyweight fights were uh...disappointing, but still a decent event
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Post by: CajoleJuice on September 24, 2011, 11:28:52 PM
Yeah, Jones is too much for LHW.
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Post by: pilonv1 on September 24, 2011, 11:38:45 PM
MARK HUNT :bow2
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Post by: Boogie on September 25, 2011, 01:30:02 AM
How utterly predictable

and yet still entertaining!

Pretty much the perfect summary of the night.

Quote
Kinda funny seeing Jones not able to just throw his opponent around, though. For all of his supposed versatility, he missed so many opportunities in the clinch to drive his knees through Rampage's fat head.

I know what you mean.  Watching Jones, you can see tons of what you *think* are vulnerabilities and weaknesses.  His somewhat plodding footwork.  His lack of setting up his high kicks with punches.  His seemingly lackadaisical pace (I thought he could have turned on the engine and finished it far before he did).

But in spite of all of that, how can you argue with the results?  It's like a man against a child in every fight, but the "man" is only 23 years old.  How can you fault him for not finishing the fight in the first round, when he comes out in the 4th like a bat out of hell and ends it almost at will?

You said that only Machida could give him a challenge, but I doubt even that.  Machida likes to wait out of range and leap in, or counter-punch, at times of his choosing.  I think Jones' reach would be kryptonite for Machida's style, because Jones can simply launch jabs and high-kicks at will at Machida outside of Machida's preferred range.
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Post by: Boogie on September 25, 2011, 01:30:45 AM
Also, haven't checked the GAF thread yet, but I look forward to the bitter tears from yacobod et al who gave Jones no chance due to their collective delusion.
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Post by: pilonv1 on September 25, 2011, 05:27:23 AM
i cant even read their mma threads. worse than sherdog
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Post by: Stoney Mason on September 25, 2011, 11:26:03 AM
Rampage jones went as expected. I like Rampage so it was hard for me to watch but yeah he has no chance against some one like jones. Rampage is post peak and he's not capable of beating a guy like Jones.

I almost felt he gave up there at the end and just walked into the choke to end it.
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Post by: Skidmark on September 27, 2011, 01:48:11 PM
(http://27.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lgm6g6sMAv1qaspmko1_500.jpg)
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Post by: chronovore on September 28, 2011, 11:28:35 AM
:rofl
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Post by: Skidmark on September 28, 2011, 01:40:35 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/aL9Hq.jpg)
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Post by: chronovore on September 28, 2011, 08:46:51 PM
nice.

I saw this pic in the UFC mailer, and thought "both these guys are trying to be tough, but it just looks like they don't know what to do with their eyebrows..."

(http://i.imgur.com/vDHPR.jpg)
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Post by: OptimoPeach on October 07, 2011, 08:21:51 PM
UFC 136 is about 24 hours from now

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Main Event:
Lightweight Championship: Frankie Edgar (c) vs. Gray Maynard

Main Card:
Featherweight Championship: José Aldo (c) vs. Kenny Florian
Middleweight bout: Chael Sonnen vs. Brian Stann
Lightweight bout: Melvin Guillard vs. Joe Lauzon
Featherweight bout: Leonard Garcia vs. Nam Phan

Preliminary Card (Spike TV):
Middleweight bout: Demian Maia vs. Jorge Santiago
Lightweight bout: Anthony Pettis vs. Jeremy Stephens

Preliminary Card (Facebook):
Heavyweight bout: Joey Beltran vs. Stipe Miocic
Featherweight bout: Zhang Tie Quan vs. Darren Elkins
Middleweight bout: Aaron Simpson vs. Eric Schafer
Middleweight bout: Steve Cantwell vs. Mike Massenzio

I didn't realize how many prelims are on Facebook now. That's cool I guess.

This will be the first and last time I ever root for Sonnen
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Post by: Stoney Mason on October 07, 2011, 10:13:54 PM
Good main card. I didn't even realize they had given Florian a shot at Aldo.
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Post by: Stoney Mason on October 08, 2011, 09:23:13 PM
Once a knucklehead, always a knucklehead. Melvin Guillard

 :maf
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Post by: Stoney Mason on October 08, 2011, 11:36:05 PM
Frankie is a little bad ass

 :bow2


(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-gDSAMXLB5So/TpEXZtt3miI/AAAAAAAAFYg/Ns8E6PXawIc/s1600/11.gif)
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Post by: Boogie on October 10, 2011, 12:52:32 AM
Frankie Edgar is my hero. :rock

Jose Aldo deserves the win, but that's two wins in a row in which he has looked very average.

And Guillard?  Godammed, man, what the fuck?  So disappointing.

Finally, Sonnen looked very impressive.  Give him what he wants, a Silva rematch for the superbowl weekend.  It will be legendary.
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Post by: Stoney Mason on October 10, 2011, 01:03:57 AM
The Silva Sonnen rematch will be HUGE.


And honestly as much as I love Silva, Sonnen might be his Kryptonite.

And you don't know how much it pains me to say that.  :'(
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Post by: chronovore on October 10, 2011, 08:18:17 AM
Oh, c'mon. It'd be great to have a total heel as the middleweight champeen.
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Post by: Stoney Mason on October 19, 2011, 12:15:34 AM
Sonnen was on Jim Rome today.

[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fvEXedbMVcU[/youtube]
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Post by: Stoney Mason on October 28, 2011, 10:39:23 AM
UFC 137 tomorrow. Not really a great card outside of the main event which is interesting.

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Preliminary card (Facebook)
Middleweight bout:  Dustin Jacoby vs.  Clifford Starks
Middleweight bout:  Chris Camozzi vs.  Francis Carmont
Lightweight bout:  Ramsey Nijem vs.  Danny Downes
Light Heavyweight bout:  Brandon Vera vs.  Eliot Marshall


Preliminary card (Spike TV)
Featherweight bout:  Tyson Griffin vs.  Bart Palaszewski
Lightweight bout:  Dennis Siver vs.  Donald Cerrone

Main card
Featherweight bout:  Hatsu Hioki vs.  George Roop
Bantamweight bout:  Scott Jorgensen vs.  Jeff Curran
Heavyweight bout:  Mirko Filipović vs.  Roy Nelson
Heavyweight bout:  Cheick Kongo vs.  Matt Mitrione
Welterweight bout:  B.J. Penn vs.  Nick Diaz
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Post by: pilonv1 on October 28, 2011, 07:36:15 PM
Siver Cerrone could be hot shit.

Also go Mitrione
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Post by: Stoney Mason on October 28, 2011, 07:42:11 PM
Siver Cerrone could be hot shit.

That's the only other match that really interests me. I wish it was on the main card.
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Post by: OptimoPeach on October 28, 2011, 07:45:11 PM
BJ is gonna come in fat and lose on points

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Post by: chronovore on October 28, 2011, 10:30:25 PM
BJ is gonna come in fat and lose on points



BJ is going to get KTFO'd before he can submit Diaz.
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Post by: Boogie on October 28, 2011, 10:43:31 PM
BJ is gonna come in fat and lose on points



BJ is going to get KTFO'd before he can submit Diaz.

BJ has never been KO'd ever.  He's been stopped twice.  Hughes via alleged fluke rib injury, and GSP taking his will.

Don't see that happening here.  As I said on GAF:

Fun fact: Total number of top 10 WW opponents that Nick Diaz has defeated in his entire career: 1.

Fun fact: Total Number of fighters currently ranked in the top 25 of the BE/USA today consensus rankings in the WW division that Nick Diaz has faced: Zero

Diaz has very good cardio, great recovery, unorthodox striking, and solid jits.

Although Penn is a better matchup for Diaz than most of the rest of the UFC's WW division, BJ still has to be the favourite just based on having fought fighters who are worth a damn for the past five years.
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Post by: chronovore on October 28, 2011, 10:58:34 PM
I don't like Diaz at all. I'm one of those dojo-dorks that thinks martial artists should behave themselves and present themselves respectfully. So I hope that BJ gets a definitive win over Diaz. I just have a feeling that Diaz' "puncher's chance" is going to be in his favor.
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Post by: Boogie on October 28, 2011, 11:13:02 PM
I don't like Diaz at all. I'm one of those dojo-dorks that thinks martial artists should behave themselves and present themselves respectfully. So I hope that BJ gets a definitive win over Diaz.

Oh, I'm the same way, and I agree.  I hate the douchenozzles who cheer for the thugs (yes, that means you, yacobod).  I am an unabashed hater of Diaz.

Diaz has an impressive aura about him, and he *could* be as good as the hype train suggests.  And BJ might be the best matchup for Diaz in the UFC's WW division.

 But it's not rational to think so.  For five years, he has been the dictionary definition of the big fish in a small pond.

Since beating Gomi (at 160 lbs), he has not faced a single fighter who could wrestle worth a damn.

Think about that for a second.  In a division that, at the top ranks, has GSP, Matt Hughes, Koscheck, Jake Shields, Jon Fitch, Jake Ellenburger, Ben Askren, Anthony Johnson, etc, etc, etc.

The best wrestler that Nick Diaz has faced in five years is......shit, I just looked at his record, and I don't even fucking know.  Diaz has not faced a single quality wrestler since Sean Sherk in 2006.

And people are trying to tell me that he's the number 5 fighter at 170 lbs?  Get the fuck outta here.

Whip up any fighter with above-average wrestling and passable sub defence, and that fighter beats Diaz. 
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Post by: OptimoPeach on October 28, 2011, 11:32:09 PM
I actually forgot this isn't going to be five rounds. I also forgot today is Friday and the weigh-ins were today :lol

I'll still be hoping for a Diaz win simply due to the troll factor. The thought of someone so uncouth and socially awkward being anywhere near the title picture is just too good to not want to see actualized. Also, as much as I like BJ, his insufferable fanboys coughohimdumcough sometimes make it difficult for me to root for him

edit: Yeah, for the record, I don't TRULY think either Diaz bro will ever hold a strap, but I can dream!
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Post by: pilonv1 on October 29, 2011, 07:23:36 PM
About to head to a bar in waikiki to watch this. My first UFC bar show, I am excited.
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Post by: chronovore on October 29, 2011, 09:30:34 PM
I am überjelly.
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Post by: OptimoPeach on October 29, 2011, 11:40:40 PM
lol BJ took quite a beating. Out of shape and no apparent gameplan. Seems so familiar....

edit: DAMN I was thinking he looked like he didn't want to be there after that second round, but I didn't see that coming. RIP BJ :(
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Post by: chronovore on October 30, 2011, 12:55:15 AM
Darn it, that's sad.
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Post by: OptimoPeach on October 30, 2011, 01:20:25 AM
Diaz vs GSP back on. Apparently GSP is furious
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Post by: Stoney Mason on October 30, 2011, 02:30:43 AM
I love Nick Diaz!  :D

Still doesn't stand a chance against GSP but I love to watch that dude fight. Always will. I think boogie is overly harsh on him. He probably wouldn't stand a chance against Fitch and probably even Koscheck but dude can hang with most of the others in that weight class imo.
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Post by: pilonv1 on October 30, 2011, 03:19:18 AM
Can't wait to see Diaz get destroyed
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Post by: OptimoPeach on October 30, 2011, 03:44:11 AM
This was probably all just an elaborate troll job designed by Dana to coax a finish out of GSP
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Post by: pilonv1 on October 30, 2011, 03:48:54 AM
I'm happy if it is. It's made me interested in a gsp fight
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Post by: Skidmark on October 31, 2011, 03:38:58 PM
GSP is going to get a hurt!
Title: Sportsmanship.
Post by: chronovore on October 31, 2011, 06:11:18 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/0qcpO.jpg)
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Post by: Boogie on October 31, 2011, 06:46:25 PM
GSP is going to get a hurt!

aww, that's cute.
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Post by: OptimoPeach on October 31, 2011, 06:57:43 PM
Dawww!

BJ's eye looked pretty nasty from the side. Ugliest case of swelling since Starnes vs Aldo?

The presser was...awkward.

edit: I was wondering where you were, Boogie! Thought you might have anger stroked on us after the post-fight interview
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Post by: Boogie on October 31, 2011, 07:18:00 PM
Dawww!

BJ's eye looked pretty nasty from the side. Ugliest case of swelling since Starnes vs Aldo?

The presser was...awkward.

edit: I was wondering where you were, Boogie! Thought you might have anger stroked on us after the post-fight interview

GSP himself summed up my thoughts on Diaz calling Georges scared:

(http://i41.tinypic.com/2jhbox.gif)

That presser was hilarious!  Dana gives Diaz a title shot and Diaz.....reacts like Dana just shot his dog.  wtf is wrong with you, Diaz?

Was a good win by Diaz, but as I said elsewhere, Penn was one of the best matchups for Diaz at WW in the UFC.  All of that time trading in the pocket against Penn just translates as "double-leg range" against Georges.
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Post by: Skidmark on November 01, 2011, 11:19:22 AM
GSP is going to get a hurt!

aww, that's cute.

Really bad!
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Post by: Stoney Mason on November 12, 2011, 07:59:32 AM
Huge Heavyweight fight tonight and its free on Fox.

Alot of people are picking Dos Santos but I'm going with Cain.



Quote
Preliminary card (Facebook and FoxSports.com)
Light Heavyweight bout:  Aaron Rosa vs.  Matt Lucas
Welterweight bout:  Mike Pierce vs.  Paul Bradley
Bantamweight bout:  Alex Caceres vs.  Cole Escovedo
Featherweight bout:  Mackens Semerzier vs.  Robert Peralta
Bantamweight bout:  Norifumi Yamamoto vs.  Darren Uyenoyama
Welterweight bout:  DaMarques Johnson vs.  Clay Harvison
Featherweight bout:  Cub Swanson vs.  Ricardo Lamas
Featherweight bout:  Dustin Poirier vs.  Pablo Garza
Lightweight bout:  Ben Henderson vs.  Clay Guida


Main event
Heavyweight Championship bout:  Cain Velasquez vs.  Junior dos Santos
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Post by: Boogie on November 12, 2011, 09:42:17 AM
How psyched am I?

SO psyched!


Cain if he's healthy and healed from his injury.
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Post by: OptimoPeach on November 12, 2011, 10:06:08 AM
Cain > Junior

Ben Henderson > Clay Guida

I don't think I know anything about the opponents of Cub Swanson, Cole Escovedo, or Kid Yamamoto, and I'm completely unfamiliar with everyone else. Still infinitely better than UFC 138!

Have they explained why only the main event is being televised? It doesn't make any difference to me but it seems like a strange decision, even accounting for the casual fan's love of heavyweights. I can imagine so many scenarios where this just ends in disaster
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Post by: CajoleJuice on November 12, 2011, 10:15:55 AM
Cain > Junior

Ben Henderson > Clay Guida

I don't think I know anything about the opponents of Cub Swanson, Cole Escovedo, or Kid Yamamoto, and I'm completely unfamiliar with everyone else. Still infinitely better than UFC 138!

Have they explained why only the main event is being televised? It doesn't make any difference to me but it seems like a strange decision, even accounting for the casual fan's love of heavyweights. I can imagine so many scenarios where this just ends in disaster

The official deal between FOX and UFC doesn't start until next year. This is like a last-minute preview they put together, I think. I totally agree that it could turn out really badly.
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Post by: Boogie on November 12, 2011, 10:18:48 AM
Cain > Junior

Ben Henderson > Clay Guida

I don't think I know anything about the opponents of Cub Swanson, Cole Escovedo, or Kid Yamamoto, and I'm completely unfamiliar with everyone else. Still infinitely better than UFC 138!

Have they explained why only the main event is being televised? It doesn't make any difference to me but it seems like a strange decision, even accounting for the casual fan's love of heavyweights. I can imagine so many scenarios where this just ends in disaster

The official deal between FOX and UFC doesn't start until next year. This is like a last-minute preview they put together, I think. I totally agree that it could turn out really badly.

Yes, but it being a "last-minute bonus" thing doesn't explain why they couldn't make it 90 minutes and throw Guida/Henderson on too.
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Post by: CajoleJuice on November 12, 2011, 10:20:17 AM
Cain > Junior

Ben Henderson > Clay Guida

I don't think I know anything about the opponents of Cub Swanson, Cole Escovedo, or Kid Yamamoto, and I'm completely unfamiliar with everyone else. Still infinitely better than UFC 138!

Have they explained why only the main event is being televised? It doesn't make any difference to me but it seems like a strange decision, even accounting for the casual fan's love of heavyweights. I can imagine so many scenarios where this just ends in disaster

The official deal between FOX and UFC doesn't start until next year. This is like a last-minute preview they put together, I think. I totally agree that it could turn out really badly.

Yes, but it being a "last-minute bonus" thing doesn't explain why they couldn't make it 90 minutes and throw Guida/Henderson on too.

Not sure they would have needed to stretch it to 90 minutes for that, honestly.

But yeah it sucks. I was hyped for the first event on FOX and then I find out it's just the heavyweight fight. uhhh
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Post by: Stoney Mason on November 12, 2011, 11:44:20 AM
The one fight thing is stupid. Especially since they are introducing the fox audience to mma. But at least that one fight is probably the biggest fight of the year on paper.
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Post by: Boogie on November 12, 2011, 05:32:54 PM
I also heard one analyst say that it is self-defeating in terms of getting good ratings, since for many fight events (that don't end up sucking), the audience grows over the course of a broadcast.

So they could possibly get worse ratings for an hour show, than a two-hour one that builds excitement towards the main event over a longer period.
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Post by: Stoney Mason on November 12, 2011, 06:35:51 PM
Yeah I would have shown at least 2 or three fights and have long lengthy setup video pieces to set up who Dos Santos and Velasquez are. Kind of the way HBO use to do their boxing stuff. A lot of new people are going to be watching this. It would be nice to inform and educate them why this is a big bout instead of just assuming they already know it is.
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Post by: Positive Touch on November 12, 2011, 08:09:17 PM
so anybody else watching the pacquiao marquez fight?

shits gonna be awesome
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Post by: Stoney Mason on November 12, 2011, 09:41:12 PM
That was quick
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Post by: Boogie on November 12, 2011, 09:44:05 PM
That was quick

And unfortunate.

Can't really complain about the stoppage, Cain was face down and not doing shit when Big John stepped in.
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Post by: Boogie on November 12, 2011, 09:45:54 PM
Can't hate on Cigano though.

Damn that guy's heart is big.  Gotta love him.
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Post by: Boogie on November 12, 2011, 09:56:54 PM
lol, dana sounds pissed in the post-fight analysis.
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Post by: OptimoPeach on November 12, 2011, 11:42:58 PM
Yeah he reportedly threw a fit ahaha

Pretty abrupt way to end the night after all that hype. They definitely need a couple fights leading in. The production overall was surprisingly not that horrible but they have to get the NFL music out of there
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Post by: CajoleJuice on November 12, 2011, 11:50:58 PM
Yeah he reportedly threw a fit ahaha

Pretty abrupt way to end the night after all that hype. They definitely need a couple fights leading in. The production overall was surprisingly not that horrible but they have to get the NFL music out of there

They started using the NFL music for every sport this year. I fucking HATED it when they used it for baseball. Fucking garbage.
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Post by: OptimoPeach on November 13, 2011, 12:50:38 AM
Marquez robbed
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Post by: CajoleJuice on November 13, 2011, 12:51:45 AM
lololololol boxing

the worst shit is HBO sucking Pacquiao's dick

I feel like Kellerman tried to be a bit less embarrassingly biased during the broadcast
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Post by: pilonv1 on November 13, 2011, 06:43:36 AM
We got 3 fights on the UFC show - Guida/Heno, the main event and DeMarcus Johnson fucking some dude up. Was a great one hour.
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Post by: Skidmark on November 13, 2011, 11:58:07 AM
lol, dana sounds pissed in the post-fight analysis.
What's up with him talking shit about the new champion's gas tank? what was that about?
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Post by: Stoney Mason on November 14, 2011, 10:41:24 AM
Quote
The Ultimate Fighting Championship’s first live bout on network television lasted only 64 seconds, but nonetheless managed to become one of the most-watched fights of the new millennium.

Junior dos Santos and Cain Velasquez’s heavyweight title fight attracted 5.7 million viewers and a 3.1/5 household rating to Fox on Saturday night, according to figures released Sunday by Fox Sports Media Group. The statistic makes UFC on Fox 1 the most-watched event in the 18-year history of the UFC, as well as the most-watched professional fight since 2003, when 7 million viewers tuned in to watch Lennox Lewis defeat Vitali Klitschko on HBO.

The UFC on Fox rating also eclipsed the 4.9 million viewers which EliteXC drew to CBS in May 2008 with a heavyweight bout between Kimbo Slice and James Thompson.

In an official release, Fox projected the UFC event to win its 9:00-10:00 p.m. time slot for Saturday, despite heavy competition from a trio of college football games on ABC, NBC and ESPN. UFC on Fox pulled strong numbers in key demographics, including 4.3 and 4.0 in Men 18-34 and Men 18-49, respectively. According to Fox officials, the Men 18-34 rating was higher than all but one college football game thus far this season, bested only by the Nov. 5 showdown between top-ranked Louisiana State and No. 2 Alabama.

The show, which took place at the Honda Center in Anaheim, Calif., was highest-rated in the UFC’s hometown of Las Vegas, where it earned a 5.3/9. Other successful local markets included Dallas (5.1/10), Phoenix (5.1/9) and San Antonio (5.1/8).
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Post by: Boogie on November 14, 2011, 04:32:09 PM
Ratings turned out pretty good after all.

Wonder what the peak rating for the hour will hit.
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Post by: pilonv1 on November 14, 2011, 07:10:21 PM
Cain sucks

Also LOL @ Shields/Sexyama for UFC in Japan

RIP Japan
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Post by: chronovore on November 15, 2011, 02:58:13 AM
Cain sucks

Also LOL @ Shields/Sexyama for UFC in Japan

RIP Japan

UFC might do well in Japan if a single local manages to come out on top. Lately, that hasn't been the trend, has it?
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Post by: pilonv1 on November 15, 2011, 05:42:32 AM
The only guy who was winning was Okami and he got clowned by Anderson Silva.
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Post by: chronovore on November 15, 2011, 11:53:36 PM
The only guy who was winning was Okami and he got clowned by Anderson Silva.

That wasn't "clowned," that was like the whole clown car.
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Post by: Polyh3dron on November 18, 2011, 07:56:04 PM
sup yall.. fucking scale was acting all nutty today for 139, CSAC is run by dumbfucks
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Post by: pilonv1 on November 18, 2011, 11:30:16 PM
CSAC is run by dumbfucks

Bill Douglas knew what he was doing, but by and large yes it's run by distinguished mentally-challenged fellows.
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Post by: Boogie on November 19, 2011, 05:25:10 PM
sup yall.. fucking scale was acting all nutty today for 139, CSAC is run by dumbfucks

Welcome poly.  Please stick around.  Not a lot of quantity in MMA discussion here, but we do allright.
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Post by: Stoney Mason on November 19, 2011, 11:32:37 PM
Crazy shogun henderson fight going on!
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Post by: Boogie on November 19, 2011, 11:41:49 PM
I didn't think any fight had a chance of matching Edgar/Maynard III for fight of the year.

BUT GAWDAMN!  WHAT A FIGHT!!!!
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Post by: Stoney Mason on November 19, 2011, 11:44:45 PM
Yeah that was epic. Both guys showed a ton of heart.
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Post by: Boogie on November 19, 2011, 11:55:41 PM
It's also frustrating that, from lack of star power, this event probably barely did 300k buys.

There have been so many awesome events this fall that have bombed in buyrates.  A damn shame.
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Post by: Skidmark on November 20, 2011, 12:26:43 AM
Dana is full of himself, I just hate his ignorance. He talks way more than he should.
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Post by: Boogie on November 20, 2011, 12:29:42 AM
Dana is full of himself, I just hate his ignorance. He talks way more than he should.

I love Dana 80% of the time.

He's as much a fan as he is a President, which is his strength.
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Post by: Skidmark on November 20, 2011, 12:38:03 AM
Dana is full of himself, I just hate his ignorance. He talks way more than he should.

I love Dana 80% of the time.

He's as much a fan as he is a President, which is his strength.

He is really making this press conference about his opinions. He is also clearly biased and when Ariel got him cornered he just went on in circles and then ignored him and went on about him and judges.

Those presser are perfect for point out the logical fallacies games. You didn't create a sport, your argument is invalid, SHUT UP!
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Post by: Boogie on November 20, 2011, 12:44:40 AM
Dana just has difficulty accepting the thick sexual tension between him and Ariel, 'tis all.
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Post by: pilonv1 on November 20, 2011, 05:05:49 AM
Fight should have been a draw. How the last round wasn't a 10-8 is beyond me
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Post by: Polyh3dron on November 20, 2011, 08:31:42 AM
Can someone lamp me for the Fedor fight?
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Post by: CajoleJuice on November 20, 2011, 09:19:18 AM
Fight should have been a draw. How the last round wasn't a 10-8 is beyond me

Agreed.

Amazing fight. I feel bad for Shogun. If only this were the fight on FOX.
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Post by: Stoney Mason on November 20, 2011, 10:14:51 AM
Dana is full of himself, I just hate his ignorance. He talks way more than he should.

I love Dana 80% of the time.

He's as much a fan as he is a President, which is his strength.

He is really making this press conference about his opinions. He is also clearly biased and when Ariel got him cornered he just went on in circles and then ignored him and went on about him and judges.

Those presser are perfect for point out the logical fallacies games. You didn't create a sport, your argument is invalid, SHUT UP!

Dana is Dana. He's one of those guys who has a tough time saying any decision he made wasn't absolutely perfect.

Hey Dana shouldn't you have added Guida and Henderson to the fox show?

"Of course not. That night was perfect!"

Hey Dana this Shogun Henderson fight would have also been perfect for Fox and easy to arrange.

"Stop asking me dumb questions!"

That's Dana.

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Post by: pilonv1 on November 22, 2011, 06:05:02 PM
Can someone lamp me for the Fedor fight?

let me get my time machine so we can go back to 2005 when Fedor was relevant
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Post by: OptimoPeach on December 07, 2011, 06:44:59 PM
GSP is "injured" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dv-tPXlNdlg#t=4s)

But really, am I overreacting in thinking his career is in jeopardy here? Two knee injuries in under two months and almost a year-long layoff at the peak of his career and his physical prime....RIP

edit: Might as well give my picks for 140.

Jon Jones vs. Lyoto Machida
Frank Mir vs. Antônio Rodrigo Nogueira
Tito Ortiz vs. Antônio Rogério Nogueira
Claude Patrick vs. Brian Ebersole
Mark Hominick vs. Chan Sung Jung

Wouldn't be too shocked if Machida walks away with the strap but it's hard to pick anyone vs Jones after the year he's had. One of the most impressive string of victories in recent memory if he puts away Machida. Still don't think it's so much of a foregone conclusion as people are making it out to be. Machida will probably get ragdolled in two rounds and make me look dumb, though.

Picking Mir AND Tito to win on the same card makes me sick but the Nogs look terrible these days :(
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Post by: Flannel Boy on December 07, 2011, 07:14:17 PM
This is especially bad news tonight for any criminal who finds himself on the wrong end of a certain Mountie's taser-gun.

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Post by: pilonv1 on December 07, 2011, 07:24:49 PM
GSP is a pussy, Frank Shamrock fought on a torn ACL.
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Post by: Stoney Mason on December 09, 2011, 03:19:23 PM
Dana White fires Torres for an admittedly lame twitter joke yet he calls somebody a pussy and a taco and keeps his job. That's fair.
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Post by: OptimoPeach on December 09, 2011, 07:33:24 PM
A joke plagiarized from a sitcom on FOX's own FX, even.

Pretty excited for tomorrow. And in case anyone forgot, we still have the NYE event with Overeem vs Lesnar (omgomgomgomg) and Nate Diaz vs Donald "Brokeback" Cerrone. Jon Fitch is on there too if anyone cares
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Post by: OptimoPeach on December 10, 2011, 10:09:12 PM
HAHA F Tito and his deformed head

edit: I can't stand Mir but that was awesome. Nasty nasty nasty
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Post by: Stoney Mason on December 10, 2011, 10:35:55 PM
That was fucking nasty.
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Post by: Stoney Mason on December 10, 2011, 10:59:56 PM
Good first round for Machida. He won it.
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Post by: OptimoPeach on December 10, 2011, 11:05:06 PM
O M F G

CHoked him unconscious and walked away like a boss

Unreal
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Post by: Stoney Mason on December 10, 2011, 11:06:22 PM
OMFG holy Shit!
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Post by: OptimoPeach on December 10, 2011, 11:20:02 PM
24 years old

Most excited I've been for a fighter's future since seeing GSP at UFC 50

Crazy

Who the hell is this on the SRN with TJ? I need my BREEEN

Another line break for moar emphasis
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Post by: Stoney Mason on December 11, 2011, 12:25:02 AM
Was a great card tonight.
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Post by: Stoney Mason on December 11, 2011, 12:29:43 AM
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-m3SXh014zCg/TuQtcRa2FFI/AAAAAAAAGsY/m9JuOl_4ah4/s1600/7.gif)
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Post by: OptimoPeach on December 11, 2011, 12:58:56 AM
Awesome card for sure.

GAFfots already looking for their next hero to slay the evil Jon Jones in Dan Henderson :rofl  Good God. Coming from someone who has been a fan of Hendo since people were deriding him as Decision Dan, it'll never, ever, EVER EVER EVER EVER happen WTF PEOPLE. Might as well give Rashad his shot now that he's been screwed over twice.

The only way I see Jones losing at LHW is by getting TKOed on the feet, and I don't see anyone being able to take it that far before they're on their back getting worked
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Post by: pilonv1 on December 11, 2011, 04:33:07 AM
need a "and not a single fuck was given" gif of Jones walking away

Jones will fucking slay Henderson. Rogan made a good point about someone needing to kick his chicken legs. Would be an interesting strategy, and nothing else has worked so far so try something new
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Post by: OptimoPeach on December 11, 2011, 02:45:48 PM
So much hate all over the internet right now. MMA fans are the worst
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Post by: chronovore on December 11, 2011, 08:22:43 PM
What kind of hate? People hating on Jones for a clean win?
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Post by: OptimoPeach on December 11, 2011, 09:02:32 PM
People are complaining he's sanctimonious, two-faced, arrogant, blah blah blah. He does sometimes come off as a goody-goody but there are much more detestable personalities in the sport.

My favorite whine thread from Sherdog went something like, "If Jon Jones were really such a great guy, he would have lowered Machida gently to the canvas instead of just dropping him."

But I guess the fanboy backlash is to be expected. In a single year he has walked through some of the most popular fighters in the division.

Meanwhile, there are rumors flying around that Overeem vs Lesnar might be compromised:
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@JoshGrossESPN
Josh Gross White denies Overeem is off the Lesnar card. But Alistair is on Mon.'s NSAC agenda. I've heard possibly in connection w/ prefight drug test.

Overroid NOOOOOO! He says all is well, though:
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But to my fans who are worried that I will not be 100 percent ready to rip Brock Lesnar apart on December 30 at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas, let me promise you: coming back to Holland for this camp will not be a factor at all. ... I say to MMA fans, again, don't worry, I will be sending this guy back to WWE for you.
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Post by: chronovore on December 11, 2011, 09:15:54 PM
Lesnar doesn't like getting hit, and Overeem has got sick reach. And Overeem has decent ground, doesn't he?
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Post by: T234 on December 11, 2011, 11:51:02 PM
Last night was CURRRAAAAAAZZZEEEEEEEE. First time I've ever seen a man get hung by another man just with his arms. And the SNAP! I ain't going within 20 feet of Frank Mir, I don't care we're in line at the same damn movie theater. And the Korean Zombie is def a fave for me now.
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Post by: pilonv1 on December 13, 2011, 06:18:07 PM
Lesnar doesn't like getting hit, and Overeem has got sick reach. And Overeem has decent ground, doesn't he?

Not good ground but he's got a sick guillotine. He's undoubtedly the better striker but the question is can he defend Lesnar's takedown long enough to stand with him?

Also

(http://www.mmaconvert.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/alistair_overeem_timeline.jpg)

:teehee
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Post by: chronovore on December 13, 2011, 08:19:01 PM
When he was young, he was a sexy beast. Now he's just a beast.

What are the odds of Lesnar's takedown being intercepted via that guillotine, though? That's where I think Lesnar will have problems.

Plus, again, the reach -- Lesnar doesn't like being poked on the chin, though I'm still stunned he weathered Carwin's assault back then.
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Post by: pilonv1 on December 14, 2011, 12:08:53 AM
Depends how healthy he was when he fought Cain, and how healthy he is now.
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Post by: OptimoPeach on December 14, 2011, 12:38:51 AM
Overeem has looked basically helpless against fighters with equatable or worse top control than Lesnar in the past, though that was always at LHW. I think Werdum (obviously not a fair comparison to Lesnar) briefly had him on his back and he managed to get up with relative ease.

Heart says Lesnar eats an Uberknee shooting for a takedown and wakes up in the hospital a week later, head says we see a Lesnar/Mir 2 repeat
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Post by: chronovore on December 19, 2011, 08:44:21 PM
(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7166/6540588593_a2a1a1972d.jpg)

I got a picture with "the crazy PRIDE lady," Lenne Hardt.
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Post by: chronovore on December 20, 2011, 10:54:48 PM
http://www.cracked.com/blog/the-10-worst-mma-fights-of-all-time/
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Anderson Silva vs. Demian Maia UFC 112

Demian Maia is one of the many people smart enough not to attack Anderson Silva. In fact, if that was the measure of intelligence, Demian Maia might be the smartest man alive. He stood almost perfectly still in front of Silva for almost 25 minutes, but he's not the villain in this story. This is the fight where Anderson Silva earned his black belt in High School Bully.
Once he saw that Maia wasn't doing anything, Silva teased the fellow Brazilian with little dances and Portuguese racial slurs. It looked like two children playing video games with Anderson Silva being controlled by a racist little brat and Demian Maia controlled by a kid whose Internet kept going out. This wasn't a fight. This was a boy jamming fireworks into a helpless cat while a crowd booed.

Despite the slow pace of the fight, it seemed like 15 minutes of making fun of white people and doing The Macarena was too much for the champ. He spent the last 2 rounds retreating in a circle and catching his breath. And while Silva didn't find the time to throw many attacks during this dance recital, one of the shots still fractured something near Maia's eye. When this happens and you blow your nose, your eye swells shut like an air mattress. Demian Maia blew his nose. That meant that for the rest of the fight, Demian had to watch this shimmying dickhead taunt him through an eye that looked like a body builder's vagina. At the risk of inventing an Internet fetish, his entire field of vision must have looked like Chyna giving birth to a boxing glove.
:rofl

I nearly peed. Seanbaby is pretty funny most of the time, but he's at his best when he knows his shit.
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Post by: pilonv1 on December 21, 2011, 12:57:31 AM
:o you met the dragon lady? So jealous :(

I may be the only one who enjoys bad Anderson Silva fights. Dude is so talented it's scary
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Post by: CajoleJuice on December 21, 2011, 03:32:33 AM
I enjoyed it for the first three rounds but then it got ridiculous.
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Post by: Skidmark on December 22, 2011, 04:28:01 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/dTqkc.png)
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Post by: Boogie on December 22, 2011, 06:43:18 AM
It's kind of sad that the President of the UFC types like a 14-year old girl.
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Post by: pilonv1 on December 22, 2011, 07:28:04 AM
so rape jokes are no go

incest? ok
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Post by: Stoney Mason on December 31, 2011, 12:21:37 AM
Brock Lesnar  :lol

Fuck you dana

For what its worth I thought it was stopped too early although the result would have been the same.
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Post by: Stoney Mason on December 31, 2011, 12:28:11 AM
Apparently Brock retired after the fight. I'm gonna assume that surgery was pretty serious and he realizes he can't compete anymore after it.
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Post by: chronovore on December 31, 2011, 01:40:02 AM
Fitch needs a new nickname if he was KO'd 12 seconds into his fight.
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Post by: pilonv1 on December 31, 2011, 05:33:56 AM
Apparently Brock retired after the fight. I'm gonna assume that surgery was pretty serious and he realizes he can't compete anymore after it.

Of course it was serious. You could see his heart wasn't in it and he said if he'd won he would have retired after the title fight anyway. All the best to him, his run was short and it's crazy that a guy could do what he did so late in his career.

Johnny Hendricks is my new favourite fighter for fucking up Jon Fitch
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Post by: Skidmark on December 31, 2011, 08:04:36 AM
Hendricks has a left hand like a Jon Fitch fight. It could put anyone to sleep.
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Post by: Skidmark on December 31, 2011, 08:15:22 AM
Brock Lesnar  :lol

Fuck you dana

For what its worth I thought it was stopped too early although the result would have been the same.


What did he say this time?
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Post by: pilonv1 on December 31, 2011, 08:36:38 AM
Hendricks has a left hand like a Jon Fitch fight. It could put anyone to sleep.

:lol stealing this
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Post by: Stoney Mason on December 31, 2011, 12:42:10 PM
Brock Lesnar  :lol

Fuck you dana

For what its worth I thought it was stopped too early although the result would have been the same.


What did he say this time?

Nothing. I just never liked the meathead contingent that Lesnar drew in and Dana milked. Never had anything personally against Brock.
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Post by: OptimoPeach on December 31, 2011, 12:56:27 PM
Nice card to cap off the year.

Johnny Hendricks is my new favourite fighter for fucking up Jon Fitch
YES!

I wasn't expecting Brock to retire. Pretty disappointing. This division doesn't have very many top-tier fighters to spare. I'm actually looking forward to the return of Werdum now lol.

Nate Diaz treating Cerrone like a punching bag was probably my highlight of the night. :bow Diaz bros :bow2 This is exactly how Nick Diaz vs Condit will go.

edit: Holy crap Chronovore! Missed the pic at the top. That's awesome
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Post by: chronovore on December 31, 2011, 06:17:55 PM
edit: Holy crap Chronovore! Missed the pic at the top. That's awesome
;)

Was Brock a top-tier fighter? I mean, yeah, Heavyweight Champion and all that, but it looked like he wasn't even in the same weightclass as Couture in that fight. He's 5-3-0, and I think he was given the championship shot ABSURDLY early.
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Post by: Stoney Mason on December 31, 2011, 06:29:48 PM
edit: Holy crap Chronovore! Missed the pic at the top. That's awesome
;)

Was Brock a top-tier fighter? I mean, yeah, Heavyweight Champion and all that, but it looked like he wasn't even in the same weightclass as Couture in that fight. He's 5-3-0, and I think he was given the championship shot ABSURDLY early.

At the time when he won the title people were thinking he was a monster because of his weight and speed and athleticism. A lot better and more balanced breed of heavyweight stars was coming on the scene and have exposed his weaknesses.
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Post by: pilonv1 on December 31, 2011, 06:39:22 PM
(http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/975/lolfitch.jpg)

:lol
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Post by: Skidmark on January 14, 2012, 04:38:51 PM
(http://memegenerator.net/cache/instances/400x/12/12887/13196933.jpg)
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Post by: Stoney Mason on January 14, 2012, 11:45:39 PM
(http://www.abload.de/img/496250330smqrq.gif)
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Post by: Stoney Mason on January 14, 2012, 11:54:53 PM
That was an amazing Aldo finish.
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Post by: Skidmark on January 15, 2012, 12:04:18 PM
That was an amazing Aldo finish.

What are your thoughts on the Mario/Rogan situation with the disqualification due to the back of the head strikes?
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Post by: Stoney Mason on January 15, 2012, 01:25:59 PM
It was a bad way to end the fight. The ref should have hopped in there quicker if he was hitting the back of the head enough to be DQ'ed but honestly that sort of thing always happens in that situation. Guys often hit the back of the head as they just start throwing flurries. But yeah it was a bad and confusing result.

As far as what Rogan said some people might say its unprofessional to toss refs under the boss like that but I don't really have a problem with it. People were going to have the discussion anyway. Might as well start it.
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Post by: T234 on January 21, 2012, 04:24:41 PM
:drudge BOOGIE ALERT :drudge

http://www.mmafighting.com/2012/01/21/dana-white-gsp-hates-nick-diaz-will-be-ready-to-fight-him-by-s/ (http://www.mmafighting.com/2012/01/21/dana-white-gsp-hates-nick-diaz-will-be-ready-to-fight-him-by-s/)


Dana White: GSP Hates Nick Diaz, Will Be Ready to Fight Him by Summer


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"He says, 'I am praying every night when I go to bed that Nick Diaz wins this fight,'" White said. "I have never seen Georges St. Pierre hate somebody. He hates Nick Diaz. I've never seen him so motivated to fight somebody and to beat somebody like Nick Diaz."


MOTIVATED GSP? Oh god, the beating he will hand out shall be delicious!
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Post by: pilonv1 on January 21, 2012, 06:13:58 PM
I eagerly await the 5 round blanketing by GSP
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Post by: CajoleJuice on January 21, 2012, 07:05:41 PM
I eagerly await the 5 round blanketing by GSP

:lol
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Post by: Skidmark on January 22, 2012, 10:04:49 PM
http://www.ufc.com/ seems to be hacked
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Post by: Stoney Mason on January 26, 2012, 10:38:58 PM
Apparently Dana White just got into a twitter argument with anonymous and they gave out his personsal info.


http://www.reddit.com/r/MMA/comments/oyhpw/dana_white_and_anonymous_debate_via_twitter/
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Post by: Boogie on January 26, 2012, 11:04:35 PM
Dana may know MMA, but there are two things he doesn't know shit about:

The Internet, and how to write a sentence properly.
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Post by: Stoney Mason on January 26, 2012, 11:12:36 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rYZdmzLL47Q
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Post by: Skidmark on January 27, 2012, 09:26:20 PM
http://deadspin.com/5879953/ufc-president-dana-white-compares-anti+sopa-activists-to-911-terrorists

''You go out there and start acting like a terrorist, you're gonna get Osama Bin Ladden'ed''

I bet his asshole is jealous of the amount of shit that comes out his mouth.
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Post by: Boogie on January 27, 2012, 10:19:00 PM
http://deadspin.com/5879953/ufc-president-dana-white-compares-anti+sopa-activists-to-911-terrorists

''You go out there and start acting like a terrorist, you're gonna get Osama Bin Ladden'ed''

I bet his asshole is jealous of the amount of shit that comes out his mouth.

wait wait wait.

Dana just compared Anonymous hacking his website, and releasing his personal info to......the 9/11 attacks?!

 :rofl
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Post by: Boogie on January 27, 2012, 10:28:17 PM
I eagerly await the 5 round blanketing by GSP

Although I would of course cream my pants if GSP TKO's Diaz, I would only be marginally less ecstatic for him to wrestlefuck Diaz for 5 rounds, for I shall drink the bitter tears of the haters with glee, round by round.

The only question marks for such a potential matchup is GSP's recovery, and ring rust.  Diaz himself is not a factor.
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Post by: Stoney Mason on January 27, 2012, 10:28:36 PM
I'm not a fan of leaking personal information on the net. But when you poke a hornets nest stuff like this is bound to happen. Not to mention Dana always will go overboard on whatever position he takes.

On topic I'm very excited for the Sonnen Bisping fight. I wish that was the main event.
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Post by: Boogie on January 27, 2012, 10:33:04 PM
When you basically provoke the Internet with a "COME AT ME, BRO", I basically say, fuck it, Dana has earned everything that comes at him in this saga.  Plus, y'know, he supports SOPA because people stream his PPVs.  Fuck you, Dana, I can't even watch the FX or Fuel content without changing my cable package.

errr, that was kinda rambling.  I can only rest easy because I've changed credit card numbers since I became a UFC Fight Club member over a year ago, so my info is safe. :lol
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Post by: Stoney Mason on January 27, 2012, 10:37:05 PM
errr, that was kinda rambling.  I can only rest easy because I've changed credit card numbers since I became a UFC Fight Club member over a year ago, so my info is safe. :lol

That's my problem is that sometimes regular people's information is released when they pull this shit not to mention I'm not a fan of the idea that you should get punished by leaking personal information just because you say something stupid or somebody doesn't agree with you. But like I said its the internet. This is the way of the world. It's not gonna stop Dana from continuing to say and do what he's going to do. Although as usual his hyperbole is over the top.
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Post by: Boogie on January 27, 2012, 10:41:05 PM
I'm interested in finding out more about Dana's criminal file.  It said something about a tax lien?

It would be hilarious in his hypocrisy if Dana rails against piracy for "stealing" his money, while at the same time he skimped on paying his taxes, or something.
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Post by: Boogie on January 27, 2012, 10:42:40 PM
Also, ya, Sonnen/Bisping is going to have a lot more heat to it than Davis/Evans.

I don't really see how Bisping has a chance here though.

Am slightly disappointed Munoz had to pull out though, because Maia/Weidman doesn't really do anything for me.
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Post by: Stoney Mason on January 27, 2012, 10:46:55 PM
I think everybody is for the correct reasons picking Sonnen but I would laugh my ass off if Bisping wins and Sonnen doesn't get his rematch.

Evans and Davis are both good fighters. They are both just boring as toast.
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Post by: Boogie on January 27, 2012, 11:27:01 PM
I won't laugh if Bisping wins, because it will mean the next title fight sucks.

Bisping has no heat with Anderson, and also has no chance of beating him.

Whereas, four months of Chael-hype of a Sonnen/Silva rematch will be fuck awesome, AND he's the only man outside of a prime GSP who has a chance of dethroning Silva.
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Post by: Stoney Mason on January 28, 2012, 11:34:52 PM
Snoozer fights as expected.
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Post by: pilonv1 on January 29, 2012, 01:24:16 AM
Terrible show, Sonnen is a complete parody now to the point where I just want him to go away.
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Post by: Boogie on January 29, 2012, 02:57:49 PM
Yeah, pretty mehtastic event.  Watched it at a bar, so didn't have any sound to hear Sonnen's chirping.  Seemed like there was a lot of talk between Sonnen and Bisping during the fight.

Also, wtf was up with Phil Davis throwing kicks?  Every time Davis threw a kick, Rashad caught it and took him down.  And yet, even by the fifth round, Davis was still throwing kicks and getting taken down from them.  Way to adjust on the fly, Phil.  ::)
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Post by: Stoney Mason on January 29, 2012, 03:39:02 PM
What struck me was how relatively poorly Bisping fought and he still had a chance. If he had just actually tightened up his technique and stopped all those obvious spinning kicks.

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Post by: chronovore on January 29, 2012, 05:58:31 PM
Bisping's problem is his overconfidence. He keeps thinking he's smarter than the other guy, and he's clearly not. Once the surprise attack has failed twice, probably best to put that aside for a bit. Or maybe he thought it landed? I dunno. He thought he won the fight, it was ridiculous; did he think the judges were scoring pitty-pat strikes from the bottom as hits?
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Post by: Stoney Mason on January 29, 2012, 06:08:08 PM
wrong thread
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Post by: Boogie on January 29, 2012, 08:52:10 PM
Bisping's problem is his overconfidence. He keeps thinking he's smarter than the other guy, and he's clearly not. Once the surprise attack has failed twice, probably best to put that aside for a bit. Or maybe he thought it landed? I dunno. He thought he won the fight, it was ridiculous; did he think the judges were scoring pitty-pat strikes from the bottom as hits?

Hey, I'm not sure it's so outrageous, because apparently a sizeable portion of the internet also thinks he won the fight, so.....
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Post by: Stoney Mason on January 29, 2012, 09:18:04 PM
I thought Sonnen clearly won. I mean it was a bad performance for him too but he did enough to win it in a wrestle fuck kind of way.

I mean Bisping performed better than most people thought he would especially in the first two rounds but still I thought Sonnen easily won the third even if the first two rounds were split.

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Post by: chronovore on January 30, 2012, 01:23:25 PM
By the way, after all this time in Japan, this was my first UFC event seen on an American TV at something close to live broadcast. I was at a bar in San Jose mid-town, enjoying a pint of Doublejack and some cajun sausage. (AMERICA! FUCK YEAH!)

It wasn't live, was it? It didn't show "LIVE" anywhere on the screen. t was watching on the west coast, and it was in IL, right?
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Post by: pilonv1 on February 01, 2012, 12:54:24 AM
pretty sure Fox showed it live across the USA, since they're treating it as a sporting event and not staggering it.
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Post by: chronovore on February 01, 2012, 01:50:29 AM
Sweet! Then I've seen my first UFC live event, in a bar, with good beer, and good friends. Only one other table seemed to be paying attention, but even they left before the final fight.

What the hell was a "title eliminator" match? I thought Rashad was the champ, because it was 5-rounds... but it wasn't even an interim champ match?
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Post by: Boogie on February 01, 2012, 06:12:28 AM
Sweet! Then I've seen my first UFC live event, in a bar, with good beer, and good friends. Only one other table seemed to be paying attention, but even they left before the final fight.

What the hell was a "title eliminator" match? I thought Rashad was the champ, because it was 5-rounds... but it wasn't even an interim champ match?

As of the Shogun-Hendo fight last year, the UFC has decided that the main event for all PPV and Fox cards will be 5-rounds, even if a non-title fight.
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Post by: chronovore on February 01, 2012, 10:52:19 AM
As of the Shogun-Hendo fight last year, the UFC has decided that the main event for all PPV and Fox cards will be 5-rounds, even if a non-title fight.

Oh, hey. News to me! Thanks for that.
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Post by: pilonv1 on February 01, 2012, 05:00:59 PM
Sweet! Then I've seen my first UFC live event, in a bar, with good beer, and good friends. Only one other table seemed to be paying attention, but even they left before the final fight.

What the hell was a "title eliminator" match? I thought Rashad was the champ, because it was 5-rounds... but it wasn't even an interim champ match?

As of the Shogun-Hendo fight last year, the UFC has decided that the main event for all PPV and Fox cards will be 5-rounds, even if a non-title fight.

Thankfully the rescinded that for the FX/Fuel shows. No one wants to see Alves v Kampmann for 5 rounds.
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Post by: Boogie on February 05, 2012, 12:55:39 AM
Oh God, so many lulz at Diaz' epic meltdown tonight.

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Post by: Stoney Mason on February 05, 2012, 01:22:42 AM
Utterly boring fight but Condit won it. If Diaz wasn't a lunkhead and so macho about his fighting style I actually think he could have easily won it. But he's too "cool" to chase or try to take somebody down to the ground.
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Post by: Skidmark on February 05, 2012, 10:57:49 AM
Utterly boring fight but Condit won it. If Diaz wasn't a lunkhead and so macho about his fighting style I actually think he could have easily won it. But he's too "cool" to chase or try to take somebody down to the ground.

Wow, I thought that it was orgasmic. I believe I just discovered my gag reflex for mma fights, had to pause it after the first round and do something else for a while. I just couldn't take it in, it was too much for me.

It was as if the main event of a ufc card has been changed into a bullfighting event in the ufc octagon.

Now here is my rant about the whole thing, which is not a response to you or your comment:

Diaz is a crazy mother fucker and I have nothing but respect for him. When Diaz says what he really thinks about this scoring system he is called a goof, a whiner, a baby, an angry girlfriend, a bad loser, crying like a little bitch so on and so on.. But when Dana white swears and calls reporters fegs, hardcore fans idiots, internet users no-lifers and compares script kids with 9/11 terrorist attackers people look up to him and praise his alpha fat ass for having the courage to tweet.

I have nothing against leg kicks and I am not underestimating them or their importance in the sport of mma, but you gotta admit that sometimes they are just like the take downs that can give a fighter a whole round although aside from some wrinkling on the opponents shorts do nothing.

He basically said what everyone thinks when the scoring system doesn't favour them. So whatever, the cocksuckers will continue to act like little bitches to get to sit on Dana's lap for some free tickets on twitter.

There is an element of ''alphaness'' to mma, it's celebrated by both ufc as an organization and it's fans alike, it's celebration and presence in advertising is what helps its growth as a spot in todays media and it is reflected in everything they do from weigh-ins, prime-times, commercials, commentaries, highlights to t-shirts and posters. We were all promised a crazy slug fight and Diaz delivered what he promised even though Condit came in prepared for a chess match and treated the fight as such.

To Diaz, he mentally made Condit his little bitch all 5 rounds, something that most mma fans do enjoy on this level of competitiveness and is the kind of crap that Dana white would gobble day and night to sell fights, Diaz didn't even try to avoid anything that Condit brought to the fight meanwhile Condit has been running with his heels up his ass every time Diaz reached him. Not smart of Diaz, but it is still damn impressive and entertaining and if he would have won, which he was very close to, everyone would be standing in line to suck his dick.

In the beginning of the last round, we see Diaz attempt the winning a round by points from leg kicks and it worked until he shortly chose to abandon it. It is just not him and not the way he would want to win. He has a passion for fighting and vision of winning and it is not by doing what he is told to do like an adult actress.

The reason White is intimidated by Diaz is because he can run his mouth and act with no regard to what others think of him which is probably the only thing that makes Dana stand out as a promoter. It is as if every single aspect of a fighter, his life and personality and even craziness will be celebrated in every way possible in the UFC as long as it does not step on it's feet or comes in the way of Dana.

Fuck you Dana, fuck you and fuck your doughnut gobbling prostate licking smughole.
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Post by: Boogie on February 05, 2012, 11:55:54 AM




Diaz is a crazy mother fucker and I have nothing but respect for him. When Diaz says what he really thinks about this scoring system he is called a goof, a whiner, a baby, an angry girlfriend, a bad loser, crying like a little bitch so on and so on.. But when Dana white swears and calls reporters fegs, hardcore fans idiots, internet users no-lifers and compares script kids with 9/11 terrorist attackers people look up to him and praise his alpha fat ass for having the courage to tweet.

Noooo, I pretty much consider Dana to be a complete douche when he does those things too.
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Post by: chronovore on February 05, 2012, 12:03:04 PM
The fighters generally hate to leave anything in the hands of the judges, even the ones who usually win by decision. They never have a clear idea of who has won, when they go to a decision. You can see so many fights which were clearly one-sided, and yet the loser will raise his hands, thinking he's won -- or in many cases the winner will be going back to his corner, frustrated that he's lost (or maybe just that a longed-for stoppage was unattainable).

I haven's seen the Diaz/Condit fight yet, so I won't talk out of my ass about it, but Diaz is truly a fireball, and sometimes that doesn't work. If he was unable to adapt to the game Condit brought, then Condit has managed to "impose his will" on Diaz, and maybe it is time for Diaz to evolve or get out.
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Post by: Skidmark on February 05, 2012, 12:12:06 PM

Noooo, I pretty much consider Dana to be a complete douche when he does those things too.
Not trying to start a flame war. I was just in rant mode and honestly that's how mma fans generally act like, at least that's how i see them.
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Post by: chronovore on February 05, 2012, 12:15:02 PM
Most people are just as you've said. I didn't take it to be a disrespectful swipe at your fellow boritos, but rather a swipe at the TapOut Bros and couch jiujitsu experts worldwide who are riding Dana's prong.
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Post by: Skidmark on February 05, 2012, 12:21:17 PM
Most people are just as you've said. I didn't take it to be a disrespectful swipe at your fellow boritos, but rather a swipe at the TapOut Bros and couch jiujitsu experts worldwide who are riding Dana's prong.
I just showed the fight to my dad and my younger brother, they both have seen an mma match or two before but are not really fans of the sport. They watch more K1 on Eurosport but they found this one really entertaining and where fully engaged in conversations about the fight and how it ended.
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Post by: Stoney Mason on February 05, 2012, 12:23:45 PM
My thoughts on the fight was that it was very boring and I was very excited before it coming into it. It had two fatal flaws.

Condit decided to employ a very boring Greg Jackson style let's turn this into a technical olympic style scoring event. I can't blame him for doing it but its not something I like watching or find entertaining. It's basically the same reason I don't like watching Rashad evans fights. It's not why I watch MMA. I'm not some lunkhead who needs every fight to be a  knockout in the first round but I'm also not a fan of a light leg kicking exhibition for 5 rounds.

The second fatal flaw is that while I really love watching Diaz fight, he has become a slave to his style. Sort of the same way that a lot of good stand up fighters become a slave to their style. If Condit isn't going to stand there and fight with you then fucking chase him or fucking grapple him. You have to make it obvious that you are the fighter and the other dude is just running away. Diaz refused to do it. He just stalked him around the 5 ring for 5 rounds and taunted. Which is more "manly" I guess but its a fucking sport and you gotta do what you gotta do to win a fight.

Condit gains very few fans with a win like that. The only bright side is that he won't be able to do that against GSP.

 
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Post by: Stoney Mason on February 05, 2012, 12:33:09 PM
Also I think I was in a crabby mood in general last night because a lot of the usual stuff that always happens and never bothers me was annoying me last night.

Especially Rogan and Goldberg. I'm so tired of the way they feel they have to hype up every fight by lying about the fighters. ex. This guy has amazing ju-jitsu and amazing striking and amazing blah blah. Not he fucking doesn't. Most MMA fighters have one thing they do really well. They are utterly average in other categories. That's what makes the elite fighters so special is that they actually are good at a few things. I don't have to be told that every matchup is two Superman going at each other.


Also the pre fight hype talk each fighter does is laughable. They say stuff like I'm going to rip off his head and shit down his neck before the fight. And then we get a final fight like that.
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Post by: Skidmark on February 05, 2012, 04:04:16 PM
I mean I agree with your analysis on the fight, spot on, intelligent and well put but I still can't help but feel the way I do about the whole thing.
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Post by: Boogie on February 05, 2012, 08:50:38 PM
Yeah, I didn't think the main event was boring.

Not a barn burner, of course, but I enjoyed the drama of Condit clowning Diaz for five rounds.
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Post by: pilonv1 on February 05, 2012, 11:34:58 PM
I didn't watch it but I would have enjoyed seeing Diaz losing to his own strategy. Guy is a headcase
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Post by: Stoney Mason on February 08, 2012, 02:28:50 PM
http://www.mmafighting.com/ufc/2012/2/8/2784104/dana-white-carlos-condit-accepts-rematch-with-nick-diaz


rematch
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Post by: Skidmark on February 08, 2012, 05:35:50 PM
http://www.mmafighting.com/ufc/2012/2/8/2784104/dana-white-carlos-condit-accepts-rematch-with-nick-diaz


rematch
(http://gifsoup.com/webroot/animatedgifs4/1571472_o.gif)
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Post by: pilonv1 on February 08, 2012, 06:15:04 PM
rematch for fight won decisively

UFC turning into Boxing
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Post by: Boogie on February 08, 2012, 06:51:55 PM
http://www.mmafighting.com/ufc/2012/2/8/2784104/dana-white-carlos-condit-accepts-rematch-with-nick-diaz


rematch

no rematch.

rumblings is that Nick got busted for weed on the drug test again. lololol
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Post by: chronovore on February 09, 2012, 01:52:27 AM
http://www.mmafighting.com/ufc/2012/2/8/2784104/dana-white-carlos-condit-accepts-rematch-with-nick-diaz


rematch

no rematch.

rumblings is that Nick got busted for weed on the drug test again. lololol

That boy is a train wreck.
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Post by: Boogie on February 09, 2012, 06:55:31 PM
Diaz pissed for weed confirmed

Most self-destructive fighter in MMA this side of War Machine and Junie Browning.
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Post by: Stoney Mason on February 09, 2012, 10:20:23 PM
Its hilarious to me that people need weed so badly they can't even take a break from it when they know they are being drug tested.
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Post by: pilonv1 on February 26, 2012, 06:54:37 AM
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:heart  :heartbeat :heart
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Post by: Stoney Mason on February 26, 2012, 10:27:50 AM
Good fight card and I love the Japanese MMA crowd. Good title fight. A lot of technical skill shown.

Rampage is done as an elite fighter if it wasn't already obvious before.

Frankie should probably drop down a weight class. He is a tiny lightweight.

Dana White: "I think Frankie Won"

(http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3576538/frankedgar.png)



edit: Note this isn't a diss at frankie who I really like and always shows a ton of heart.
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Post by: Stoney Mason on March 01, 2012, 01:04:29 PM
So when is the scam that testosterone-replacement therapy will be banned in MMA going to happen?

Oh never. Carry on.

http://www.mmamania.com/2012/2/29/2834413/rampage-jackson-used-testosterone-before-his-fight-against-ryan-bader

And not a diss at Rampage. Everyone is using it. What a scientific phenomenon that MMA fighters all have low testosterone levels.

http://mmajunkie.com/news/24201/medical-beat-in-mma-testosterone-replacement-therapy-is-too-ripe-for-abuse.mma
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Post by: Skidmark on March 01, 2012, 05:25:48 PM
It's not only the fighters, It's the president, the owners and the commentators too if I remember correctly.
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Post by: pilonv1 on March 01, 2012, 10:20:54 PM
Baseball players use it too.
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Post by: Stoney Mason on March 04, 2012, 12:12:18 AM
Ronda Rousey beat Miesha Tate. Her 5th first round submission. Impressive win.
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Post by: pilonv1 on March 04, 2012, 02:49:19 AM
Yeah she's for real. Shame Mrs. Cyborg was on the gas
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Post by: Sho Nuff on March 05, 2012, 02:43:23 AM
Went to BJJ class this morning and everyone was talking about Tate-Rousey. I was like "How did it end?" and the Prof was like "Uurrrrrrrrrrrrrrgggggggggggh" and shook his head. Just tracked it down and watched it. GOD DAMN OW OW OW OW OW.

Coincidentally, this morning we drilled armbars for 1.5 hours
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Post by: chronovore on March 10, 2012, 09:09:50 PM
DAY-UM.

http://mobile.mmamania.com/2012/3/9/2859075/gif-pat-curran-absolutely-annihilates-joe-warren-at-bellator-60-with

Ref should have called this MUCH earlier. Jesus, what an ass-whupping.
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Post by: Skidmark on March 22, 2012, 06:21:24 PM
http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2012/3/22/2893170/ufc-dana-white-soccer-least-talented-sport-on-earth

son of a whore
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Post by: Boogie on March 22, 2012, 08:14:57 PM
http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2012/3/22/2893170/ufc-dana-white-soccer-least-talented-sport-on-earth

son of a whore

Soccer may require skill, but they're still the biggest pansies around.

http://thechive.com/2011/08/22/hilarious-soccer-dives-12-gifs/
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Post by: pilonv1 on March 22, 2012, 08:44:39 PM
lol Dana

right before he runs a soccer stadium in Brazil
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Post by: Stoney Mason on March 26, 2012, 03:06:15 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PfhVbsDpU44\

Nice promo. Then again anything using James Brown automatically becomes awesome.
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Post by: Skidmark on March 26, 2012, 03:13:56 PM
They really are not showing UFC Sweden any love. :(
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Post by: Stoney Mason on March 26, 2012, 03:18:51 PM
They really are not showing UFC Sweden any love. :(

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AHriqqJHSbE
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Post by: Stoney Mason on March 27, 2012, 01:17:12 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EKJxwg6QVmw
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Post by: Boogie on April 04, 2012, 10:24:32 PM
Overeem pissed hot.

Man, the UFC has really been cursed the past year and a half...
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Post by: Stoney Mason on April 04, 2012, 11:51:42 PM
lulz.

At this point honestly I think pretty much everybody is juicing in MMA illegally or "legally".

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Post by: pilonv1 on April 06, 2012, 05:37:59 AM
Pretty much. The only difference is that some are smarter than others on beating the test.
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Post by: chronovore on April 06, 2012, 08:06:54 AM
I sure wish Dana'd agree to implement random drug testing. It would increase legitimacy of the sport. Other sports have it; any idea why Dana doesn't do it?
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Post by: pilonv1 on April 06, 2012, 09:25:52 AM
This was a random drug test. Overeem was to be randomly tested twice before the match as one of the conditions of him being granted a licence.

But there's not enough of it being done. I think UFC want to have the commissions do it since they handle it at events, but none of them have enough money to do so.
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Post by: Skidmark on April 06, 2012, 11:18:10 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GAz0LI4FBVY

He really wants the ufc to fire him
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Post by: chronovore on April 06, 2012, 03:27:32 PM
That Rampage thing is all manner of foolish tastelessness.

This was a random drug test. Overeem was to be randomly tested twice before the match as one of the conditions of him being granted a licence.

But there's not enough of it being done. I think UFC want to have the commissions do it since they handle it at events, but none of them have enough money to do so.

Yeah, I mean anyone is signed to a match, they should be ready for random drug tests, administered by ZUFFA/UFC at any time during the 90 days leading up to the match.
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Post by: Stoney Mason on April 06, 2012, 03:31:11 PM
At this point I literally don't even care about steroids. It's more the hypocrisy of the powers that be that really bothers me. I hate the fake lip service about how serious they are about it. Especially coming out of Dana's mouth.
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Post by: Skidmark on April 13, 2012, 03:03:03 AM
Any predictions on the main event Alexander vs Silva? I am on my way to Stockholm now to watch the event, my first UFC. Btw, If I get to ask tito ortiz a question in the Q&A what should I ask him?
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Post by: Stoney Mason on April 13, 2012, 07:49:50 AM
Any predictions on the main event Alexander vs Silva? I am on my way to Stockholm now to watch the event, my first UFC. Btw, If I get to ask tito ortiz a question in the Q&A what should I ask him?

Ask him about his porn star wife Jenna Jameson and then wait to get punched.  Have a good time dude. I envy you.  :)
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Post by: Stoney Mason on April 14, 2012, 03:36:53 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZ9cBX3WZEU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5UY2OJTLseU
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Post by: OptimoPeach on April 14, 2012, 04:34:20 PM
One of the few matches I can think of in a long, long time where the animosity between the two fighters isn't just manufactured drama. Yeah, looking forward to this one.

Boy has MMA sucked this year. Not very many highlights so far outside of Joe Warren getting his smug face beat in
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Post by: Stoney Mason on April 18, 2012, 12:31:27 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjNe4ONncPY
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Post by: Steve Youngblood on April 18, 2012, 12:43:29 PM
I haven't been following terribly closely as of late, but does anyone think Evans has a chance, here?
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Post by: Stoney Mason on April 18, 2012, 01:05:03 PM
Almost nobody really does. Most people consider jones a phenom and just too physically gifted for anybody in the division at the moment.

Evans big and maybe only advantage is his speed. He's probably the fastest light heavy weight in the division. And jones showed a weakness to speed against Machida (until he crushed him) So if he implements a gameplan of hit and run attacks and constantly keeps moving maybe he could outpoint jones.
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Post by: Skidmark on April 20, 2012, 09:52:37 AM
I think Rashad has a very good chanse of winning. I will make an update on UFC Sweden when I come back home.
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Post by: Stoney Mason on April 20, 2012, 06:30:52 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mGqDtJBo9ns
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vIVLYXJaBR4
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Post by: Boogie on April 20, 2012, 07:13:51 PM
I think Rashad has a very good chanse of winning. I will make an update on UFC Sweden when I come back home.

I think Rashad has almost zero chance of winning.

Rashad's record is great, but when you look at how he wins, he barely wins.

Barely beats Thiago Silva.
Barely beats Rampage.
Gets KTFO'd by Lyoto.
Even had moments of struggling against Tito early on.

Whereas Jones:
Curbstomps Rampage.
Chokes Lyoto unconscious.
Outside of a close first round against Machida, hasn't had a moment in his UFC career where he wasn't winning the fight.

I say Rashad is getting steamrolled.  Might take until round 4 for the finish, but it's going to happen.

Wildcard is the psychological game.  Outside chance that Rashad is in Jones' head.
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Post by: Boogie on April 20, 2012, 07:18:37 PM
Also, excited to see a bunch of Canucks on this card.  Especially the two former Tompkins guys who I used to train with.

Funny to see Chris Clements making his UFC debut.  Six years ago he was a guy with no ground game, who I would easily outgrapple in training, and now he's in the UFC.  (all of them were always miles ahead of me in striking, though :lol)  Makes me wonder what might have been if I had dedicated myself to that path, tho.  I don't think there's any way I'd be UFC-calibre, but I grew up training under someone who turned out to be a world-class MMA coach, but training never became more than a hobby for me.
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Post by: Stoney Mason on April 21, 2012, 02:30:20 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aHrW6jCzP7c
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Post by: Skidmark on April 21, 2012, 05:28:14 AM
I think Rashad has a very good chanse of winning. I will make an update on UFC Sweden when I come back home.

I think Rashad has almost zero chance of winning.

Rashad's record is great, but when you look at how he wins, he barely wins.

Barely beats Thiago Silva.
Barely beats Rampage.
Gets KTFO'd by Lyoto.
Even had moments of struggling against Tito early on.

Whereas Jones:
Curbstomps Rampage.
Chokes Lyoto unconscious.
Outside of a close first round against Machida, hasn't had a moment in his UFC career where he wasn't winning the fight.

I say Rashad is getting steamrolled.  Might take until round 4 for the finish, but it's going to happen.

Wildcard is the psychological game.  Outside chance that Rashad is in Jones' head.

MMAth doesn't work
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Post by: Stoney Mason on April 21, 2012, 11:42:30 PM
Good card tonight. Some impressive wins. Especially by MacDonald. Now its time for the big one.


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Post by: Stoney Mason on April 22, 2012, 12:10:18 AM
Relatively close round. I give it to Jones but it was pretty close. Evans had a nice flurry at the end.
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Post by: Stoney Mason on April 22, 2012, 12:16:01 AM
Round 2 easily Jones. Evans had no answer for that offense.
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Post by: Stoney Mason on April 22, 2012, 12:21:55 AM
Not much happened in the 3rd. I'd still give it to Jones. Evans is pretty much in trouble because he's always struggled with his offense and he can't out wrestle Jones to try to steal it.
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Post by: Stoney Mason on April 22, 2012, 12:28:37 AM
meh. Boring fight. Evans is utterly outclassed and has no offense. Jones is fighting conservatively since he knows evans is outmatched but doesn't want to lose to a lucky shot. Therefore its boring. Evans tends to create these kind of fights.
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Post by: Stoney Mason on April 22, 2012, 12:35:49 AM
Shit fight. Evans acts like he wants to fight in the last 20 seconds after not doing anything the entire rest of the fight. Jones was very conservative aka boring which is rare for him but won every round imo
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Post by: CajoleJuice on April 22, 2012, 12:43:35 AM
Yeah, I'm surprised that Jones didn't try harder to end it. He needs to move up to heavyweight.
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Post by: Stoney Mason on April 22, 2012, 12:50:38 AM
I think he should stay at light heavy weight for at least another year or so. I'm not overly a fan of mma fighters jumping around weight classes. Unless they clearly aren't suited for the weight class they are at. It's hard to see who is going to beat him in that division though without getting lucky.

I mean Dan Henderson is probably next but does anybody think he can really beat Jones. He couldn't beat Rampage a few years back.

They were trying to hype up Gustafsson during the last pay per view and I like the kid but he's not close to being ready for somebody like Jones yet.
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Post by: Skidmark on May 02, 2012, 04:58:18 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4V2in_2zE-0
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Post by: pilonv1 on May 03, 2012, 06:24:12 AM
Very subtle
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Post by: CajoleJuice on May 06, 2012, 12:54:12 AM
Mayweather-Cotto was a really entertaining fight. Mayweather is just too fucking good, though.
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Post by: Polyh3dron on May 18, 2012, 06:11:32 PM
Bellator starts soon, streaming live here beginning at 4pm Pacific / 7pm Eastern: http://www.spike.com/shows/bellator-fighting-championships/live

Maiquel Falcao vs. Andreas Spang for the MW final should be good, but Falcao had a tough weight cut so he may gas early.

Some of MMA-GAF will be chatting in here if you care to join: http://cbe004.chat.mibbit.com/?channel=#MMA-GAF
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Post by: Stoney Mason on May 23, 2012, 08:50:53 AM
I don't think Mir has a chance in hell but here you go

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GNBE8z9W_yY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZtSwI3iwiE
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Post by: Skidmark on May 26, 2012, 06:25:01 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bcpdwPWgkos
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Post by: Boogie on May 27, 2012, 12:07:03 AM
Well, that main event was predictable.

Still, decent card.  Good to see all finishes on the main card.  The heavyweights mostly delivered.
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Post by: Stoney Mason on May 27, 2012, 12:49:58 AM
Yeah it was a pretty good card. And hopefully we never have to see Frank Mir in another title fight again. He shouldn't have been in this one. And I actually really like Mir as a person. He's entertaining to me. But after that curb stomping by Brock Lesnar, I could never take him seriously as a title contender level fighter again.
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Post by: Boogie on May 27, 2012, 01:06:58 AM
In a perfect world, yeah.

But there was really no one else they could have given the fight to on such a short notice after the Overeem clusterfuck.

Mir was the best choice of a bad situation.
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Post by: Stoney Mason on June 10, 2012, 01:37:27 AM
Everybody seems to be going nuts about this Pacquiao decision. I didn't catch the fight. How was it?
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Post by: DCharlieJP on June 10, 2012, 02:04:16 AM
All commentary on the fight is "Pacquiao dominated, Bradly -possibly- shaded two rounds - wtf is this shit?!"

Just watched a quick last round vid - the tv pundit score cards predict Pacman up by -NINE- rounds.

Not that they are without fault of course, but seems incredible that we get 115-114 splits lol.

Boxing is fucked - has been for a while.

p.s. i see a lot of people bringing up that Marquez "beat" Pacman and was robbed which i'd completely agree with - however, counteracting a shit judgement with another shit judgement? That solves nothing.

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Post by: Beezy on June 10, 2012, 08:21:07 AM
Watched the fight from the beginning. I'm not a huge boxing fan, but it was obvious that Pac dominated this fight and had Bradley looking like he was ready to collapse a couple of times. It wasn't even close.
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Post by: Momo on June 10, 2012, 08:25:40 AM
So yeah guys boxing is officially dead. They can just pack up their shit and fuck off. The one time I decide boxing may be worth my time post Lennox and I walk into this bullshit.
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Post by: Boogie on June 10, 2012, 11:55:18 PM
So yeah guys boxing is officially dead. They can just pack up their shit and fuck off. The one time I decide boxing may be worth my time post Lennox and I walk into this bullshit.

blah blah fucking blah.

Same thing is said about boxing every six months or so, after a shit-tastic decision.

You're trying to tell me that, after not watching any boxing since Lennox Lewis stopped fighting, Pacquiao-Bradley is the first fight you decided to give the sport a second-chance on?  Get the fuck out of here with that bullshit.  Come the fuck on, son.
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Post by: Momo on June 11, 2012, 12:15:07 AM
Obvious hyperbole.

I've been watching Pac and Mayweather matches the last few years, even watched some shitty Klitchko matches after Lennox left. I was really into boxing before but when the HW division fell apart I have been less interested and this isnt helping.
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Post by: Stoney Mason on June 26, 2012, 11:47:29 AM
And now the hype begins for the fight of the year.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmwTcaWq7Fo
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Post by: Boogie on June 28, 2012, 10:39:43 PM
I'm just rooting for Sonnen for the lulz.
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Post by: Polyh3dron on July 02, 2012, 02:51:51 AM
In a perfect world, yeah.

But there was really no one else they could have given the fight to on such a short notice after the Overeem clusterfuck.

Mir was the best choice of a bad situation.
dude everyone knew that Mir was going to get destroyed exactly like he did which was why there were so many people pulling for Mark Hunt, he would've put up a better fight and don't give me shit about rankings and MMAth, it's all about the stylistic matchups.  But he got injured too anyways.

Regardless, I'm hyped now for this Silva/Sonnen 2 fight, shit is gonna be NUTS when Sonnen shatters the myth that was Anderson Silva.
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Post by: Stoney Mason on July 03, 2012, 11:00:45 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JARcd81xkFs
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Post by: Skidmark on July 03, 2012, 02:13:19 PM
It is soon time! tune in.
UFC 148 SILVA vs SONNEN II Pre-fight Press Conference
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0HDUNUcJkl0
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Post by: Stoney Mason on July 04, 2012, 03:39:31 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rPy003iUuVc
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Post by: Stoney Mason on July 07, 2012, 08:33:26 AM
Tonight's the night.

  :hyper

First ppv I'll actually buy in quite awhile.

I love Silva. I hate Sonnen. But its close. Silva's weakness is great wrestling which Sonnen has and its wasn't any rib injury that caused what happened in the first fight to happen. That being said I thought Sonnen looked terrible against Bisping and if he let Bisping clip him and hurt him then Silva absolutely can. It's a 50/50 fight but my heart will be with Silva.
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Post by: chronovore on July 07, 2012, 01:39:12 PM
Silva's going to win it. If Sonnen wins, it'll be reversed by drug test results anyway. What a jerk.
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Post by: Stoney Mason on July 08, 2012, 12:38:28 AM
Regardless, I'm hyped now for this Silva/Sonnen 2 fight, shit is gonna be NUTS when Sonnen shatters the myth that was Anderson Silva.


Silva baby.

:smug
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Post by: Stoney Mason on July 08, 2012, 12:52:21 AM
(http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/23060251.jpg)


(http://www.abload.de/img/untitled-12cwluh.gif)
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Post by: Stoney Mason on July 08, 2012, 01:29:00 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/RZAve.jpg)

 :patel
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Post by: OptimoPeach on July 08, 2012, 02:48:22 AM
GOAT
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Post by: pilonv1 on July 08, 2012, 10:09:53 AM
Fael Sonnen
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Post by: Stoney Mason on July 08, 2012, 12:03:33 PM
(http://fansided.com/files/2012/07/hey-shale.png?2e2030)


For what its worth I think Silva owes Sonnen a great debt in the sense that Sonnen was a viable, worthy opponent with a viable worthy gameplan that gave Silva a good deal of mainstream credibility in a way that Silva never had. You want your favorite fighters to have rivals and opposition. Ali needs a Frazier. The Lakers need the Celtics. And MMA has been kinda missing that dynamic recently. This fight mattered in a way that most MMA fights don't. Whether that was manufactured is another debate but it felt real and that's what matters.
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Post by: Stoney Mason on July 08, 2012, 01:24:00 PM
whoops wrong thread
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Post by: Skidmark on July 09, 2012, 10:54:25 AM

For what its worth I think Silva owes Sonnen a great debt in the sense that Sonnen was a viable, worthy opponent with a viable worthy gameplan that gave Silva a good deal of mainstream credibility in a way that Silva never had. You want your favorite fighters to have rivals and opposition. Ali needs a Frazier. The Lakers need the Celtics. And MMA has been kinda missing that dynamic recently. This fight mattered in a way that most MMA fights don't. Whether that was manufactured is another debate but it felt real and that's what matters.

This is why I keep visiting this thread.

It was my first pay per view too!
Edit:
(http://fightlinker.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/andychael.jpg)
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Post by: OptimoPeach on July 09, 2012, 05:54:46 PM
For what its worth I think Silva owes Sonnen a great debt in the sense that Sonnen was a viable, worthy opponent with a viable worthy gameplan that gave Silva a good deal of mainstream credibility in a way that Silva never had. You want your favorite fighters to have rivals and opposition. Ali needs a Frazier. The Lakers need the Celtics. And MMA has been kinda missing that dynamic recently. This fight mattered in a way that most MMA fights don't. Whether that was manufactured is another debate but it felt real and that's what matters.
http://www.sherdog.com/news/articles/Viewpoint-Farewell-to-a-Partnership-44033
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Post by: Stoney Mason on July 21, 2012, 02:11:14 PM
UFC card tonight although not an especially interesting one. I'm not sure how Faber keeps getting title shots so quickly.  >:(

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Main Card

Chris Clements vs. Matt Riddle
Brian Ebersole vs. James Head
Cheick Kongo vs. Shawn Jordan
Hector Lombard vs. Tim Boetsch
Urijah Faber vs. Renan Barao



Preliminary Card

Mitch Clarke vs. Anton Kuivanen
Antonio Carvalho vs. Daniel Pineda
Bryan Caraway vs. Mitch Gagnon
Ryan Jimmo vs. Anthony Perosh
Roland Delorme vs. Francisco Rivera
Court McGee vs. Nick Ring
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Post by: Stoney Mason on July 22, 2012, 11:35:56 AM
Just an awful night of matches. Supposedly prelims were pretty good but I didn't catch those.
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Post by: E-DuB on July 22, 2012, 09:47:04 PM
I only watched bits and pieces of this, but it was the first UFC I didn't watch to the end. In the card's defense it did have a number of issues but there was  nothing there.
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Post by: pilonv1 on July 22, 2012, 11:03:42 PM
Boogie ruined UFC

(I just assumed he was there and jinxed the card even more)
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Post by: Skidmark on August 07, 2012, 11:35:54 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rg9oV2fyJKc
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Post by: Stoney Mason on August 11, 2012, 01:43:22 PM
Good card tonight especially the main event.

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Main Card
Henderson vs Edgar
Cerrone vs Guillard
Shields vs Herman
Okami vs Roberts
Lawrence vs Holloway

Prelims
Bermudez vs Hayden
Hamman vs Kuiper
Stone vs Perez
Pague vs Camus
Lentz vs Mitsuoka
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Post by: Stoney Mason on August 11, 2012, 11:38:53 PM

Melvin Guillard is the dumbest fighter and biggest waste of talent going in the ufc.
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Post by: Stoney Mason on August 12, 2012, 12:27:46 AM
Close fight. I'm not sure who actually won.

For what its worth Sherdog had it

Jordan Breen scores the round 10-9 Edgar (49-46 Edgar)
TJ De Santis scores the round 10-10 (48-48 Draw)
Chris Nelson scores the round 10-9 Edgar (49-46 Edgar)

I kinda agree with TJ. It was very close. Maybe I was edging towards edgar
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Post by: Skidmark on August 23, 2012, 07:53:29 PM
Huge UFC drama!

UFC 151 news from Dana: "This is one of my all-time lows as president... For the first time in 11 years we're gonna cancel an event."
Jon Jones refuses to fight Chael Sonnen. Sonnen asked for the fight and accepted. Jones wouldn't.
Dana White on Greg Jackson: "This guy is a f**king sport-killer"
Bisping owns Jon Jones - "fighting chael on 8 days notice. I did... Just sayin"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=809Gw18yNq4

/r/mma is full of all kinds of discussions regarding this turn of events.
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Post by: Boogie on August 23, 2012, 08:03:41 PM
Hey, how did Jon Jones get his original title shot, anyway......?
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Post by: Boogie on August 23, 2012, 08:04:29 PM
But yeah, if Jon Jones is too chicken to fight a middleweight who would only have 8 days to train for a fight, I can't allow myself to be a Jon Jones fan anymore.
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Post by: Skidmark on August 23, 2012, 08:27:44 PM
Interview with Chael Sonen:

http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=8297478
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Post by: Boogie on August 23, 2012, 08:29:27 PM
ya, Sonnen nailed it.
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Post by: Skidmark on August 23, 2012, 08:42:46 PM
I still think Dana white and the UFC fucked up here. This is poor management. Injuries do happen and the UFC cannot force fighters to have fights that they didn't sign contracts for. Fighters at the end of the day fight for themselves and not for the UFC. Knowing this they, the UFC, should have been better prepared, especially when they put only one very interesting fight.

If this would have happened in a boxing organization we would be seeing Dana White right now shoving his nose in the middle of their business and ''teaching'' them how to do things the way the UFC does things.

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Post by: Skidmark on August 23, 2012, 08:50:14 PM
Hey, how did Jon Jones get his original title shot, anyway......?

I think it was against shogun with 42 days notice but I might be wrong.

Edit: I thought this was a very well written post by Joe Lauzon:

"Not only has this screwed over all the fans that bought tickets, non refundable airfare, took off work, made arrangements, etc… but think of all the fighters. Fighters that put in full camps, flew people in that helped them trains, etc. By the time I am actually fight, I spend close to 20k between corners, flights, expenses, coaches, etc… and then to have the whole show cancelled because ONE guy didn’t want to fight. This ONE guy that had trained an entire camp, who was the CHAMP and at the top of his weight class, who was going to fight someone who didn’t do the camp, and was fighting UP a weight class.
I have always been a big Jon Jones supporter… but I would be FURIOUS if this happenned to me and I was on the card. To call is scorched earth wouldn’t do it justice."

http://joelauzon.com/blog/2012/08/scorched-earth/
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Post by: Boogie on August 23, 2012, 09:08:24 PM
Hey, how did Jon Jones get his original title shot, anyway......?

I think it was against shogun with 42 days notice but I might be wrong.

Exactly.

Jones got his shot when the champ's opponent got injured, and the champ accepted a fight against an opponent on short notice.

And then, when the shoe is on the other foot, Jones won't do the same.  Even though, with the notice being that much shorter, it's MORE to Jones' advantage.

Yes, the UFC is to blame for putting such a shit undercard on 151.  But they tried to salvage the card.  And it doesn't change the fact that Jones' actions are bullshit.
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Post by: Skidmark on August 23, 2012, 09:23:06 PM
This poor guy is getting a lot hate even though he is not the same UFC Jon Jones.  :D

https://twitter.com/jonjones
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Post by: Skidmark on August 24, 2012, 01:07:05 AM
Jones vs. Belfort to Headline UFC 152 After Lyoto Machida Turns Down Title Shot

http://www.mmafighting.com/2012/8/24/3264645/jones-vs-belfort-to-headline-ufc-152-after-lyoto-machida-turns-down
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Post by: pilonv1 on August 24, 2012, 08:47:03 AM
Quote from: Boogie
Yes, the UFC is to blame for putting such a shit undercard on 151.  But they tried to salvage the card.  And it doesn't change the fact that Jones' actions are bullshit.

Weak undercards are due to having too many shows. It's not Jones' fault, I don't blame him for not taking a fight that has no upside for him. I would think twice about my boss asking me to do something on very short notice that could damage my earning power or career
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Post by: Stoney Mason on August 24, 2012, 11:25:14 AM
Unfortunate situation but I don't believe fighters should be forced to take very late notice fights without preparation. If they are willing to do it then props on them but I understand a person not wanting to do that. 
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Post by: Stoney Mason on August 24, 2012, 12:32:39 PM
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Greg Jackson didn’t think Jon Jones should accept a short-notice bout against Chael Sonnen, and the trainer hasn’t changed his view despite strong criticism from UFC President Dana White.

“When it was brought to me, it was a question of, ‘Do you think we should fight Chael Sonnen on basically three days’ notice?’ The fight week doesn’t count,” Jackson told the Sherdog Radio Network’s “Jordan Breen Show.” “It’s not eight days’ notice. You’re not training and preparing for somebody on that week. You’re cutting weight and doing the media and basically not training at all. You get like 15 minutes. So that was the question that was asked -- ‘Should we fight somebody at Sonnen’s level with three days’ notice? -- and as a trainer I thought absolutely not. I didn’t know that like an entire card was in the balance or anything like that. [Jones] came to me as a trainer and asked me a question, and I advised Jon and I stand by that.”

Jones had been scheduled to fight Dan Henderson on Sept. 1 in the UFC 151 main event. However, Henderson suffered a partial MCL tear. Sonnen, a training partner, agreed to replace him, but Jones declined the bout and the UFC cancelled the event. White blamed Jackson for Jones’ decision, calling the trainer a “sport killer” and adding that he shouldn’t be interviewed by anyone other than a psychiatrist.

“I was asked an opinion,” Jackson said. “I gave it. I gave my advice. I still think that it’s a valid opinion. Again, I’m not a promoter, so I don’t have to deal with the things [he] deals with. I guess part of that is, he’s in his world and I’m kind of in my world. Our worlds are very much the same. We do do a lot of fights in his organization, but he comes at it from he’s got a lot of people to take care of. … He’s also a very passionate guy. I come at it from I want my guys to win as quickly as possible and I want them to be smart in there and treat it as a sport. I guess that the conflict comes there. We just have different personality types. I’m no good at talking bad about people. I never really have been.”

Jackson said he didn’t know the event would be cancelled if Jones declined to fight Sonnen, but that he still stood by his opinion.

“[Sonnen] knows what he’s doing, and obviously he’s been training with Dan Henderson, so he’s been right there in the entire camp helping him get ready for Jones,” Jackson said. “I know he’s in good shape, and it just didn’t seem to me like a smart thing to do on three days’ notice, to fight somebody of that caliber. I feel that it’s a professional sport and it’s the world championship. Fighting somebody on three days’ notice is not something Jon needs to do. That was my opinion, and it still is today. I won’t change it or turn it around. There’s a lot of people that think Jon could blow Chael out of the water, and maybe he could, but preparing for somebody for a world title on three days’ notice, for me, is not something that’s wise.”

Getting on White’s bad side might not be wise either, but Jackson is hoping there won’t be any repercussions for him or his camp because he gave Jones honest advice.

“I gave my two cents,” he said. “I gave my opinion. If Dana hates me because of that, then there’s nothing I can do about it. I certainly hope he doesn’t punish other people because that’s the way I feel about it. I think he’s a better guy than that, but I have no idea. At this point I’m a little taken aback by the whole thing.”

http://www.sherdog.com/news/news/Greg-Jackson-It-Was-a-Valid-Opinion-45135
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Post by: chronovore on August 24, 2012, 02:59:05 PM
Hey, wow. Greg Jackson sounds more reasonable, level-headed, and clear-thinking than Dana. :feignedshock
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Post by: Boogie on August 24, 2012, 08:57:14 PM
Quote from: Boogie
Yes, the UFC is to blame for putting such a shit undercard on 151.  But they tried to salvage the card.  And it doesn't change the fact that Jones' actions are bullshit.

Weak undercards are due to having too many shows. It's not Jones' fault, I don't blame him for not taking a fight that has no upside for him. I would think twice about my boss asking me to do something on very short notice that could damage my earning power or career

I blame Jones because it's an easy win.  He turned down an easy fight.  Quite possibly the most talented fighter of our generation, a man people are saying could end up moving up and becoming heavyweight champion, turned down a fight against a middleweight because he didn't have enough time to gameplan for him?  Absolutely ridiculous.

Unfortunate situation but I don't believe fighters should be forced to take very late notice fights without preparation. If they are willing to do it then props on them but I understand a person not wanting to do that.

And guess what?  Jones wasn't forced to fight anyone.  He was offered a fight, which he declined.  He is now taking, in my opinion, justly deserved shit for that decision.  But no one forced him to do anything.

Remember, folks, a year and a half ago, Jones tweeted that he had never turned down an opponent, and "never will."


If I was a Jones hater, you all could dismiss me.  But it's the opposite.  I was becoming a huuuuge Jones fan.


It all comes down to the culture of the sport.  MMA is a sport where one of the cardinal sins is to try and cherry-pick opponents, to turn down opponents.  That is something that the fans rarely forgive.  I would imagine it has to do with the sport's tournament style roots.

Can you imagine Jones in the days of UFC tournaments?  Or later Pride tournaments.

"Sorry, I can't participate in these tournaments.  I won't have ninety days to gameplan for my second round opponent."

The legends of MMA were made in tournaments which either occurred all in one night, or at least had multiple rounds in one night.  Jones has proved that he never would have been cut out for that legacy with his decision.
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Post by: Stoney Mason on August 26, 2012, 12:47:51 PM
I typed up a longer response to this and my fucking computer crashed so this is the shorter version.

Not saying you aren't entitled to your opinion Boogie. It's just that I don't come from that era of fandom for MMA where people fought injured and fought multiple times in a night. So I share no affection for that age or that type of attitude towards the sport. There is a sort of machoness that certain mma fans want from the sport that I don't really have. All I want is for the best fighter and the best gameplan to win when two good fighters fight each other. If its a serious title fight I like the idea of people having enough time to feel comfortable to come up with the correct strategy to fight another opponent. And if they are signing contracts to such a thing I even more especially feel that way.
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Post by: Skidmark on August 30, 2012, 09:11:31 PM
I just started MMA and had my first workout session last night. MMA is so much more fun when you practice it yourself especially with friends and a whole gym with like minded people. I do not think I have ever gotten that sweaty. We were all literally dripping sweat half way through the workout. At the end, we got to roll around with the experienced fighter and it was impossible to do anything with your feet, kind of like wrestling on a water slide.

The guy that i rolled around with was so fucking good, when i noticed that he has my wrist and i tried to defend it i give him my neck, when i defend my neck i realized he got my back, when i defend my back i find out he has a foot lock. He even looked like Anderson Silva. He had control over me the entire time and i was wrestling him, pushing him off me, sweeping him with all my might but with no success. I possessed no threat to him what so ever but i at least was able to defend some of his attacks/advances/submissions thanks to Joe Rogan.

Yeah and my overweight friend choked me out simply by laying on top of me from side control and shoving his forearm down on my throat. I felt silly for tapping to that.
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Post by: chronovore on August 30, 2012, 09:29:27 PM
Glad your overweight friend is trying something active; is he the guy from the other thread? If so, martial arts may give him some self-respect, start him on a path to healthiness.
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Post by: Skidmark on August 30, 2012, 09:38:14 PM
Glad your overweight friend is trying something active; is he the guy from the other thread? If so, martial arts may give him some self-respect, start him on a path to healthiness.
Yeah it is him, I really liked that he didn't give a flying fuck about how he looked and just worked out with us. He is motivated and is planning to continue.
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Post by: chronovore on August 30, 2012, 11:01:27 PM
That's great!

Physical exertion releases endorphins; he may become inclined to work out just for the rush.

Glad to hear you had a good time as well.
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Post by: Momo on October 07, 2012, 04:36:04 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4yoQmEoVl8

 :yuck :yuck :yuck :yuck :yuck :yuck :yuck :yuck :yuck :yuck :yuck :yuck :yuck :yuck :yuck
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Post by: Stoney Mason on October 14, 2012, 12:31:21 AM
 :lol

If you're watching, you know what I'm talking about.
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Post by: CajoleJuice on October 14, 2012, 01:09:20 AM
silva has to fight jones

HAS TO

COME ON

PLEASE
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Post by: Stoney Mason on October 14, 2012, 01:20:21 AM
Neither guy wants to fight each other. The GSP fight is much more likely although I'm pretty sure GSP isn't too keen on doing that one so who knows if it will ever happen either.

For what its worth I think Jones would smash Anderson simply because he's too big and strong and athletic. Which is to take nothing away from Silva.
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Post by: Stoney Mason on October 14, 2012, 01:24:26 AM
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Post by: CajoleJuice on October 14, 2012, 01:33:10 AM
Neither guy wants to fight each other. The GSP fight is much more likely although I'm pretty sure GSP isn't too keen on doing that one so who knows if it will ever happen either.

For what its worth I think Jones would smash Anderson simply because he's too big and strong and athletic. Which is to take nothing away from Silva.

I know the reasons why they won't. YOU ALWAYS WANT WHAT YOU CAN'T HAVE

I think Jones is too big as well, but I want to see him prove it. Ughhhh
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Post by: Stoney Mason on October 14, 2012, 01:46:28 AM
I think you do the Silva versus GSP super fight first and if Silva wins that then basically you offer so much money for the Jones Silva superfight that they would kinda have to be crazy to turn it down. I think that's the only potential way it could happen.
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Post by: CajoleJuice on October 14, 2012, 01:51:39 AM
I think you do the Silva versus GSP super fight first and if Silva wins that then basically you offer so much money for the Jones Silva superfight that they would kinda have to be crazy to turn it down. I think that's the only potential way it could happen.

Do people still talk about Silva-GSP? I guess it might start up again if he beats Condit.

Silva isn't exactly getting any younger, though. :(
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Post by: Stoney Mason on October 14, 2012, 01:57:52 AM
The casual public has moved on to Jones versus Silva but that's partially due to GSP being out of the public eye for so long with the injury. He's back next month when he defends against condit. Silva is also far more open to that fight (let's be honest because he has a much better shot at winning it). GSP has historically shown far less interest in it, but if Dana wheels up the money truck, he might be a company man for a catch-weight fight.
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Post by: CajoleJuice on October 14, 2012, 02:03:40 AM
The casual public has moved on to Jones versus Silva but that's partially due to GSP being out of the public eye for so long with the injury. He's back next month when he defends against condit. Silva is also far more open to that fight (let's be honest because he has a much better shot at winning it). GSP has historically shown far less interest in it, but if Dana wheels up the money truck, he might be a company man for a catch-weight fight.

As usual, you are the voice of reason.
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Post by: Stoney Mason on October 14, 2012, 02:13:10 AM
The problem is I think Silva is getting close to quitting and really is starting to want to look at shaping his legacy. And he's probably not too fond of the idea of going out and getting wrecked by a young lion like Jon Jones.
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Post by: Skidmark on October 14, 2012, 10:52:09 AM
Jon Fitch and Damian Maia are some of my favorite fighters and I'm happy to see them put on such good fights and win.

Fabio Maldonado took a beating so bad I was close to turning off the tv. The guy just doesn't want to get knocked out.

Maddog got robbed big time, he was chasing christiano for two and a half rounds and got take downs and everything.

Big Nogs fight was boring and Herman was as dumb as he looks. If your opponent is slow you should capitalize on speed to gain control of the range, not stand still and stretch your arm out.

And as always, I feel stupid for believing that someone had a chance against Anderson Silva. I am actually happy to see some of the Brazilians lose because the butt hurt crowd was booing every non-Brazilian.

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Post by: OptimoPeach on October 14, 2012, 04:24:31 PM
Pretty sure MMA "fans" are among the worst in any sport. This guy has been fighting for 15 years, has not only cleaned out his division in the UFC but was also considered a top 3 170-pounder A DECADE AGO -- which, by the way, makes the already meaningless "Where was Anderson when he was Jon Jones' age?" career comparisons all the more idiotic -- and is rapidly approaching middle age and the twilight of his career. NO SHIT he's going to balk at the prospect of moving up in weight to fight Jones, who is 25, has the frame of a HW and a distinct size and strength advantage over most natural LHWs, and could very well go on to supplant Anderson/GSP/whoever as the most dominant fighter the sport has seen. Bonnar is a scrub for sure, and a win over him is clearly not a career-defining moment, but that doesn't mean I can't appreciate Anderson's performance in a just-another-notch-in-his-belt kind of way, much like with BJ/Pulver 2, or BJ/Stevenson, or BJ/Diego, or GSP/Hardy, or GSP/Koscheck 2, or Fedor/Coleman 2, or Fedor/Sylvia, or whatever gimme fights Jones will inevitably have throughout his career.

That said, I would love to see Jones/Silva, but I have Jones ragdolling Silva.

Miscellaneous thoughts!

-Fitch on the winning end of an entertaining fight? What?
-Was hoping Big Nog would retire last night. He's right on the threshold of a Liddell-esque crash-and-burn career end.
-Glover/Maldonado was brutal. I actually welcomed the doctor stoppage.

I'm a little bored with MMA in general lately, to be honest
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Post by: OptimoPeach on October 16, 2012, 08:53:07 PM
or whatever gimme fights Jones will inevitably have throughout his career.

AHEM

http://www.sherdog.com/news/news/Jon-Jones-Chael-Sonnen-to-Coach-TUF-17-on-FX-Prior-to-April-27-Title-Bout-on-PPV-46571

I wouldn't even care if this were not a TUF fight.

:piss TUF :piss2
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Post by: Stoney Mason on October 18, 2012, 12:45:28 AM
The tyranny of the masses. In no way does Sonnen deserve this shot over some other people. But "people" want to see it so that's what we're getting.
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Post by: Skidmark on October 18, 2012, 06:07:07 PM
AHEM

http://www.sherdog.com/news/news/Jon-Jones-Chael-Sonnen-to-Coach-TUF-17-on-FX-Prior-to-April-27-Title-Bout-on-PPV-46571

I wouldn't even care if this were not a TUF fight.

:piss TUF :piss2

 :lol :lol
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Post by: Skidmark on November 06, 2012, 12:56:38 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rkN8V2Xogsw
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Post by: Stoney Mason on November 06, 2012, 01:42:16 PM
 :lol
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Post by: OptimoPeach on November 07, 2012, 10:42:36 PM
:rofl Everything wrong with TUF and MMA bro culture summed up in a 30-second clip.

Btw, looks like Anderson/GSP is happening: http://www.bjpenn.com/dana-white-says-yes-anderson-silva-will-challenge-georges-st-pierre-following-ufc-154-ufc-news/
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Post by: CajoleJuice on December 09, 2012, 06:04:06 AM
So no one cares about this thread anymore, right?

I thought about posting after the GSP UFC event, but never bothered.

But now, holy shit.

(http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/300012_10200203014423275_630930447_n.jpg)

I went back and skimmed the GAF thread BECAUSE I FUCKING FELL ASLEEP ON MY COUCH AND MISSED THE FIGHT and Ninja Scooter fucking killed me.

"Paq just becamse the new Coli dead smiley " :lol
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Post by: Stoney Mason on December 09, 2012, 11:59:21 AM
Was too busy playing Black ops to watch the UFC event or PAC being destroyed.
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Post by: cool breeze on December 09, 2012, 12:00:33 PM
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I don't know if there are more angles of it.
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Post by: Boogie on December 09, 2012, 11:43:08 PM
I always get the weirdest boners whenever BJ Penn or a Diaz brother catches a beating...
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Post by: Beezy on December 09, 2012, 11:47:40 PM
I love what this has spawned. :lol
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Post by: chronovore on December 10, 2012, 06:00:24 PM
I always get the weirdest boners whenever BJ Penn or a Diaz brother catches a beating...

The Diaz brothers are brainless thugs who unconsciously sabotage themselves due to a low self esteem issue common to all playground bullies. People like them are the reason I learned how to fight; I constantly feel lucky that I didn't get into some weird Kobra Kai dojo which would have turned me into a bully with a sense of entitlement and power, but no control.

I don't get your BJ Penn dislike though, other than he's kind of a whiner.
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Post by: Stoney Mason on March 13, 2013, 02:13:20 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKhZhRyNubQ

First Fight with a compelling backstory probably since Silva Sonnen.
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Post by: chronovore on March 13, 2013, 08:24:10 PM
Diaz is such a self-victimizing train wreck. I hope GSP gives him new reasons to implode.
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Post by: OptimoPeach on March 13, 2013, 09:18:50 PM
I'm not gonna go as far as GAF or the Shertards in the GSP hate but I won't be shedding any tears if he takes an ass whooping.

Diaz by punches -> gogoplata a la Diaz/Gomi baby.

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Post by: Stoney Mason on March 13, 2013, 10:07:25 PM
I'm not gonna go as far as GAF or the Shertards in the GSP hate but I won't be shedding any tears if he takes an ass whooping.

Diaz by punches -> gogoplata a la Diaz/Gomi baby.

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I fully admit I want Diaz to win. I like him despite him being an idiot.

That being said no way in the world it happens. GSP is way too good and smart a fighter to lose to Diaz.
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Post by: Stoney Mason on March 17, 2013, 12:39:14 AM
Well this was a pointless fight to no one's surprise.

 :piss2

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Post by: Stoney Mason on March 17, 2013, 12:49:08 AM
And its over. Thank God.

 :piss


It was a typical GSP fight.


GSP was utterly dominant. The fight was incredibly boring. And it goes 5 rounds and to a decision. (GSP hasn't finished anybody since BJ Penn back in 2009)


I don't know. I don't think he should be forced into a superfight with Anderson Silva if he doesn't want it and it certainly seems like he doesn't want it but its the only interesting fight they could make for GSP imo. The welterweight division is utterly & clearly cleaned out and boring. Johny hendricks you say? Please. Does anyone really want to see that fight.

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Post by: OptimoPeach on March 17, 2013, 01:33:48 AM
One more notch in the belt. Boogie found passed out in a puddle of his own love juice ;)

The Anderson fight makes the most sense for the UFC and for the fans, but he's not even going to be available until the tail-end of the year after his fight with Weidman, and they already screwed Hendricks out of a title shot once. I don't see Hendricks having much more then a puncher's chance but that's probably a better chance than GSP's last few opponents have had.

asdfasfasaghhhhhhhhhhhhhh goddamnit GSP
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Post by: Stoney Mason on April 28, 2013, 12:18:02 AM
No more fucking gimmick Chael Sonnen fights ever please. What a fucking waste of time.
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Post by: Stoney Mason on April 28, 2013, 12:32:20 AM
Jones injured his toe apparently. Some people are saying it happened in a post fight in the ring celebration. So now he's probably on the shelf for awhile , all for this stupid fight.

edit: they showed it happen. Apparently it occurred when Jon was leveraging himself during the fight. 

 :nsfw
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Post by: chronovore on April 28, 2013, 12:54:49 AM
WHY DID I CLICK THAT?!?!  :yuck
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Post by: Stoney Mason on April 28, 2013, 01:05:37 AM
WHY DID I CLICK THAT?!?!  :yuck

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Click this one.


 :crazybron
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Post by: Stoney Mason on April 28, 2013, 02:13:04 PM
After surgery

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BI7Iq2XCEAAHXsD.jpg:large)
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Post by: chronovore on April 28, 2013, 10:15:18 PM
Good as new?

One of the teachers at my dojo has this problem, and it keeps recurring. I worry for Jon Jones' future in the sport. Maybe he can join PRIDE DREAM WHATEVER FC, where he can wear wrestling shoes to keep his foot together.
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Post by: Stoney Mason on July 06, 2013, 07:20:15 PM
Big fight tonight.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U4MOaypEKLE
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Post by: Boogie on July 06, 2013, 08:33:54 PM
C'mon Weidman, end Silva's reign....

(I don't really have faith that he will end Silva's reign.)
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Post by: Mupepe on July 06, 2013, 08:45:06 PM
I'm surprised by how many people call still call Silva a fraud. Good fucking lord. Good lookin card tonight though.
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Post by: Stoney Mason on July 06, 2013, 08:46:42 PM
I'm surprised by how many people call still call Silva a fraud

The world is full of idiots.
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Post by: ToxicAdam on July 06, 2013, 10:19:14 PM
anyone haz stream? firstrowsports is garbage

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Post by: fistfulofmetal on July 06, 2013, 10:28:28 PM
anyone haz stream? firstrowsports is garbage

http://nutjob.eu/
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Post by: ToxicAdam on July 06, 2013, 10:44:06 PM
nice. danke
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Post by: fistfulofmetal on July 07, 2013, 12:31:59 AM
HHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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Post by: Stoney Mason on July 07, 2013, 12:32:43 AM
Anderson got cute and got caught.  :-\
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Post by: Positive Touch on July 07, 2013, 12:33:46 AM
well i fell asleep and woke up to my wife going "HOLY SHIT"

oops


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Post by: ToxicAdam on July 07, 2013, 12:37:16 AM
What a stupid fight. Anderson's 38 years old now, he can't fuck around like that and not expect to pay.

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Post by: Stoney Mason on July 07, 2013, 12:37:39 AM
I think Anderson will win the rematch but he shouldn't have played. He was clearly more tired after the first round than he usually is anyway. He took Weidman for granted and that's what can happen when you screw around.

Like I said I think Anderson will win the rematch but why not just fight normal and finish the dude.
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Post by: fistfulofmetal on July 07, 2013, 12:39:19 AM
I can't wait for all the people saying Anderson threw the fight.
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Post by: Stoney Mason on July 07, 2013, 12:40:06 AM
I can't wait for all the people saying Anderson threw the fight.

What sort of idiot would say that. It's pretty clear what happened.
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Post by: fistfulofmetal on July 07, 2013, 12:48:49 AM
I can't wait for all the people saying Anderson threw the fight.

What sort of idiot would say that. It's pretty clear what happened.

I mean. Dude basically parodied himself in the fight. He's done this shit before but not this over the top. One can look at his actions as being purposeful. Obviously he wouldn't have known he was going to get knocked out but he sure as hell didn't do anything to prevent it and did everything in his power to make it happen. Then he goes on to say he doesn't want a rematch? Even I admit it looks super weird.

Do I actually think he did throw the fight? Nah. But it's not crazy to envision a situation where that would happen.
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Post by: Stoney Mason on July 07, 2013, 12:51:24 AM
Anderson says a lot of stuff. Most of it you can generally ignore as its bs. We'll see what happens down the road and whether a rematch happens or not. I'm betting it will.

He's embarrassed at the moment. And he's definitely been bored as a fighter for awhile now based on his antics in the ring in nearly every fight as they've mostly been goof off exercises but I have a feeling he's not going to go out on that fight.
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Post by: ToxicAdam on July 07, 2013, 12:57:17 AM
I think he's tired of fighting people that are perceived as cans. It must be annoying for him to train for fights and then hear the chirping that his opponents are shitty when he beats them. When it was his talent that made them look shitty.

 I think that's where he was coming from in the post-fight where he said 'people don't respect him'.

He really should retire though. There isn't much else to prove out there and hes quickly approaching 40.



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Post by: Boogie on July 07, 2013, 01:01:30 AM
Dude fought Stephan Bonnar 9 months ago, clowned around all fight, and got away with it.

From that fight, he clearly thought "hey, this was fun, let's do this some more"

The difference is, Stelhan Bonnar was a top 30 LHW.

A top 5 MW > a top 30 LHW
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Post by: Boogie on July 07, 2013, 01:02:25 AM
Also: WOOOOOOOOOOO !!!!!!!! :rock
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Post by: Stoney Mason on July 07, 2013, 01:05:18 AM
As much as I love Anderson and impressive as his career has been the last X number of fights have just been honestly a goof-athon. If you have that talent even if you think you are above the competition and are above the competition, just go out there and crush them. I just don't understand the thing about goofing around for the entire fight to an extreme degree just for the hell of it. As much as I detest Mayweather as a human being, he goes out there and takes care of business. He doesn't clown around. He takes it seriously like its a job and payday.

Early Anderson was inconsistent. Then there was one phase of Anderson's career where he was deadly serious for a good long while. Then he added in some of the showboating stuff which was fine, and then he turned it into a parody. I think that happened around the Forrest Griffin fight and he just never actually tried anymore because he didn't have to. He clearly should have beat Weidman tonight. But when you are 38 and more tired than usual, even Silva can get caught.

Dana would be nuts to not get a rematch. That instantly becomes the biggest ppv of the year.
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Post by: Boogie on July 07, 2013, 01:11:44 AM

He really should retire though. There isn't much else to prove out there and hes quickly approaching 40.

Of course he has something to prove.  He was just completely humiliated, and now 3 of his 5 career losses are complete embarrassments. :P
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Post by: CajoleJuice on July 07, 2013, 11:58:01 AM
He humiliated himself, really. :lol
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Post by: Momo on July 07, 2013, 12:21:39 PM
Did that really fucking happen, i had to rewind to be sure :rofl
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Post by: Mupepe on July 07, 2013, 08:41:49 PM
That fight was so damn disappointing. A stupid fucking loss. Oh well.  A reminder for keeping your hubris in check
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Post by: Stoney Mason on July 14, 2013, 12:24:58 AM
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The much-anticipated UFC middleweight rematch between champion Chris Weidman and former titleholder Anderson Silva is set for Dec. 28 at UFC 168 in Las Vegas, promotion president Dana White told ESPN on Saturday.
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Post by: Mupepe on July 15, 2013, 12:28:41 PM
Damn that's a long ways away.  Hopefully he won't take the fight so lightly this time
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Post by: Stoney Mason on September 22, 2013, 12:32:59 AM
Great fight here between Jones and Gustafsson. Big surprise.
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Post by: CajoleJuice on September 22, 2013, 12:37:48 AM
holy fuck what a fight

i think jones took it, but it was so close
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Post by: Stoney Mason on September 22, 2013, 12:40:50 AM
Jones wins it. But it was a much better battle than anyone expected.
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Post by: CajoleJuice on September 22, 2013, 12:41:21 AM
don't know how that judge went 49-46. i thought gus definitely took the 1st and 3rd
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Post by: Boogie on September 22, 2013, 01:46:29 AM
Yeah, I "gut instinct'd" it for Gustaffson, but it was damned close no matter how you saw it. 


But even if you called it a Jones win, he sure as hell didn't look like the destroyer who would just waltz up to heavyweight and take the belt from Cain or JDS...
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Post by: Stoney Mason on September 22, 2013, 01:00:16 PM
http://blog.fightmetric.com/2013/09/jones-vs-gustafsson-official-ufc.html
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Post by: Stoney Mason on November 12, 2013, 07:12:37 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BuWNgI9HWWM#t=1247
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Post by: CajoleJuice on November 12, 2013, 07:16:39 PM
hype hype hype

go hendricks
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Post by: Mupepe on November 12, 2013, 07:36:56 PM
Can't wait. :hyper
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Post by: Stoney Mason on November 14, 2013, 04:09:44 PM
I think Hendricks will tire out by the 3rd round and we will see another fairly boring 5 round wrestle-fuck. That's my take.
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Post by: Stoney Mason on November 16, 2013, 11:29:45 PM
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-f2a_8rxbZ9s/Uog9aKyjV2I/AAAAAAAADls/dsafk7dCl_M/s400/TYRON2.gif)
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Post by: Stoney Mason on November 16, 2013, 11:46:21 PM
rashad evans destroys Sonnen.
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Post by: CajoleJuice on November 16, 2013, 11:47:24 PM
sonnen is fucking awful

i give him credit for getting as much out of a steroid-fueled fight with silva as possible.
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Post by: Stoney Mason on November 16, 2013, 11:48:13 PM
sonnen is fucking awful

He has one skill and that's it. He's always been overblown. The good matchup with Silva and his trash talking meant Dana was going to push him hard because of that.
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Post by: CajoleJuice on November 16, 2013, 11:49:23 PM
sonnen is fucking awful

He has one skill and that's it. He's always been overblown.

oh, totally, but he utilized it on the greatest fighter in UFC history. he's just a smart self-promoter.

edit: i see we are on the same page
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Post by: Stoney Mason on November 16, 2013, 11:56:35 PM
(http://gyazo.com/d9fa429cf0939cc772e9d5a0a6b86a81.gif)
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Post by: Stoney Mason on November 17, 2013, 12:02:17 AM
GSP is a greek god of a physical specimen. Just saying.
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Post by: Stoney Mason on November 17, 2013, 12:10:43 AM
I thought Hendricks won the first round.
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Post by: CajoleJuice on November 17, 2013, 12:13:34 AM
yes yes yes hendricks
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Post by: Stoney Mason on November 17, 2013, 12:13:49 AM
This is a fight. Hendricks is tough. And winning the second round 2 imo.
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Post by: Stoney Mason on November 17, 2013, 12:15:25 AM
Hendricks is already tired though which is a big problem. Close 2nd round. Could have gone either way.
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Post by: Stoney Mason on November 17, 2013, 12:21:37 AM
Hendricks technique is gone because he's tired. He needs to go for takedowns. GSP won third round. Easily.
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Post by: Stoney Mason on November 17, 2013, 12:26:49 AM
Hendricks was incredibly dumb to just let him up there.
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Post by: Stoney Mason on November 17, 2013, 12:29:14 AM
Hendricks just won round 4. GSP is in deep shit.
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Post by: Stoney Mason on November 17, 2013, 12:36:06 AM
GSP wins the last round. Hendricks won the fight imo. We'll see if Hendricks gets screwed by the judges.
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Post by: CajoleJuice on November 17, 2013, 12:36:15 AM
If the judges give GSP this one, fuck UFC.
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Post by: Stoney Mason on November 17, 2013, 12:38:14 AM
wow
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Post by: CajoleJuice on November 17, 2013, 12:39:50 AM
sports with judges aren't even sports jesus christ
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Post by: meni stronk on November 17, 2013, 12:40:35 AM
what a stupid fucking sport

robbed
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Post by: Stoney Mason on November 17, 2013, 12:43:42 AM
SHERDOG SCORES

Jordan Breen 48-47 Hendricks
Chris Nelson 48-47 Hendricks
Mike Whitman 48-47 Hendricks

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Post by: Stoney Mason on November 17, 2013, 12:49:02 AM
Hendricks won the first.
Second round to me would be the one in dispute.
GSP won third round clearly.
Hendricks won 4th round clearly.
GSP won 5th round clearly.

I thought Hendricks edged the 2nd round. And at worse it was a 10-10 round which would have been a draw.
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Post by: Stoney Mason on November 17, 2013, 12:52:25 AM
I didn't watch the post fight interview. Did GSP suddenly retire or something?
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Post by: meni stronk on November 17, 2013, 12:57:40 AM
he just kept saying, "I have to go away for a while." who knows

judges' scorecards

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BZQCuFYCcAAI__a.jpg:large)

they gave GSP the first round hahaha. I thought Hendricks very obviously took 1, 2, and 4.

wow
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Post by: Stoney Mason on November 17, 2013, 01:21:25 AM
Fight Metrics


Overall fight

(http://i39.tinypic.com/152hpuw.jpg)



1st round

(http://i43.tinypic.com/s6lvn8.jpg)


2nd round

(http://i42.tinypic.com/25k3fb5.jpg)
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Post by: Stoney Mason on November 17, 2013, 01:29:17 AM
Dana dropping bombs. Holy Shit!
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Post by: Mupepe on November 17, 2013, 02:27:54 AM
Crazy ass press conference. What the fuck
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Post by: Skidmark on November 17, 2013, 10:11:39 AM
Is it just me or does dana white act like an internet troll?

For me, Henricks won this fight. This is my opinion. I don't care for how it should have been scored, it's just a headache.
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Post by: Skidmark on November 17, 2013, 10:21:32 AM
I have always wondered how the UFC would be with a different president than Dana White. Maybe a more european style of leadership and presentation. Maybe it's just me, but I can't take his act seriously. I always feel that I have to read him or interrept what he says through a filter to understand what he is doing or trying to do.
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Post by: Stoney Mason on November 17, 2013, 02:35:04 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2G9fFlsg5Vg
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Post by: chronovore on November 17, 2013, 05:40:08 PM
That's all well and good, but did anyone get the license plate number of the truck that hit him?
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Post by: Stoney Mason on November 17, 2013, 09:37:19 PM
I showed my nephew the fight. And then I showed him that clip from the press conference. The moment GSP appeared on screen saying he thought he won the fought looking the way he did my nephew busted out laughing like it was an SNL skit or something.
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Post by: Skidmark on November 19, 2013, 09:41:47 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zmhi1qJP4oo
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Post by: Stoney Mason on December 09, 2013, 01:47:11 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=flVBvmPs9ao

This is why mma is great. Because its not just about the title fights. Neither of these two guys will ever win the ufc title. But what a gutty fight.
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Post by: Stoney Mason on December 14, 2013, 01:07:08 AM
Quote
UFC welterweight champion Georges St-Pierre announced Friday that he will step away from fighting for an undetermined period of time.

As such, St-Pierre will relinquish the UFC belt one month after retaining his title for the ninth time in a controversial decision over Johny Hendricks in Las Vegas.

UFC president Dana White announced that, in lieu of St-Pierre, Hendricks has been tabbed to fight Robbie Lawler for the vacant strap March 15 in Dallas.

St-Pierre, 32, cited personal issues and a severe reaction to the intensifying pressure of being a star athlete for his decision to walk away at this time.

"My life is a frickin' zoo right now," the Montreal native said during a teleconference.

St-Pierre refused to explain the nature of his personal issues. During a question-and-answer session at an event in Quebec City following the announcement, he said he will consult with his family about the direction of his career.

The three-time Canadian athlete of the year will continue to train and improve on his considerable skills, he said. However, he did not wish to think about fighting at this time and didn't consider it fair to hold up an expansive list of contenders beneath him.

"I'm content," St-Pierre said. "It's a lot of things I wanted to do. I wanted to be the greatest, and also I said before when I do things, I want to do things to be remembered, to make a difference in the sport, make the sport reach another level. I'm trying to do it during my last fight. Unfortunately, it did not work. These people are not ready for it. I tried to do my best."

St-Pierre was alluding to his disappointment regarding the scope of drug testing leading up to his fight with Hendricks on Nov. 16 in Las Vegas, the fighter's manager, Rodolphe Beaulieu, told ESPN.com.

St-Pierre said he hoped for a normal life and that he didn't "want people thinking about me."

He has been outstanding as a competitor for the UFC, standing as champion twice since 2006 while posting a 25-2 record. The fighter said he was 100 percent healthy and ready to physically compete, but mentally he was ill-prepared to step in the cage at this time.

St-Pierre is the most successful draw on pay-per-view for the UFC, but White noted this is part of the business.

"He's got these issues that he needs to deal with, and once he deals with them, he can focus on training and being a fighter again," White said.

St-Pierre left the door wide open to returning.

"If I decide to come back, I will be at the top of the game," he said.

How odd.
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Post by: pilonv1 on December 14, 2013, 05:26:05 PM
Couldn't even finish his career, went out by decision.
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Post by: chronovore on December 15, 2013, 05:44:43 PM
Meh. The sport has rules, he played within the rules and won every time. Now that he's feeling at his peak, and he should be feeling it, he is staring at the descent and not wanting to go out like Liddell. Nothing wrong with that.
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Post by: Stoney Mason on December 15, 2013, 06:13:24 PM
Obviously his career and his health so I'm fine with the decision. I'm not a fan of a fighter going out on essentially a fight he lost on that he was rewarded a victory on. Especially one that is supposed to be an all-time great. Goes against the warrior code and such all these guys are typically spouting on about. But whatever.

He was a great fighter. Not especially one I enjoyed watching towards the latter part of his career but it is what it is.
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Post by: Skidmark on December 15, 2013, 07:51:11 PM
Couldn't even finish his career, went out by decision.
:lol :lol
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Post by: Stoney Mason on December 27, 2013, 10:08:28 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-mGYL7eWDxk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JiB7lwe99ZM

The most anticipated and most unpredictable fight of the year takes places in 24 hours.
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Post by: Mupepe on December 27, 2013, 10:40:28 PM
any decent place to stream it live (preferably one that works in the x1 or 360 browser)? Ill be babysitting tomorrow so I can't hit up a bar like I usually do
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Post by: Stoney Mason on December 27, 2013, 10:43:57 PM
I assume you are just talking about a bootleg stream.

Most stream sites use some version of flash and I don't think most console browsers support that. So I would just use a laptop or something like that.

A site like this will always have it up.

http://firstrowus1.eu/
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Post by: Mupepe on December 27, 2013, 10:52:58 PM
Ah ok. Cool. I'll use that one. Thank you
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Post by: Skidmark on December 28, 2013, 08:48:55 PM
I got my ass beat by some idiots and my moron friend didn't help me but my buddies are coming over to watch ufc ppv live! who is watching it live too? :)
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Post by: Stoney Mason on December 28, 2013, 08:57:57 PM
Should be an interesting evening. Literally you could tell me anything happened in the fight tonight and I would be inclined to believe you. Anderson knocks him out in the 1st round. Anderson gets knocked out in the first round. Anderson decides not to show up for the fight tonight. Anderson decides to show up but not fight and instead put on a break-dancing exhibition. It's all fair game. Anderson Silva is one of the most enigmatic guys in all of sports.
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Post by: ToxicAdam on December 28, 2013, 10:02:26 PM
Year-end UFC is always a must watch for me. Can't wait.



edit: Sad to see Leben get rocked tonight. I still held out hope he could came back and be the exciting fighter he once was. But all warriors end their careers in ugly fashion.


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Post by: Stoney Mason on December 28, 2013, 11:09:33 PM
Those were some nasty elbows on Barnett there.
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Post by: ToxicAdam on December 28, 2013, 11:11:19 PM
Well, that escalated quickly. (Barnett fight)
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Post by: ToxicAdam on December 28, 2013, 11:37:15 PM
I'd rather watch top-level women fight than featherweight men fight.
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Post by: Stoney Mason on December 28, 2013, 11:42:16 PM
Fun first round. Rhonda is so strong. And dat judo.
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Post by: ToxicAdam on December 28, 2013, 11:42:49 PM
Fun first round. Rhonda is so strong. And dat judo.

Yea, the way she can snap those hips on a takedown is pretty amazing.

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Post by: Stoney Mason on December 28, 2013, 11:48:45 PM
Crazy first two rounds. Even with the complete domination by Rousey its been fun.
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Post by: ToxicAdam on December 28, 2013, 11:51:03 PM
Fight of the Night. Really shocked at how exciting that was.


I bet Dana didn't expect his prized woman fighter to become a heel after this match.



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Post by: Stoney Mason on December 28, 2013, 11:52:08 PM
Amazing performance by Rousey. The main problem is that honestly I don't think tate should actually be in the same weight class as her. But UFC hasn't expanded their women divisions yet.
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Post by: Stoney Mason on December 28, 2013, 11:56:17 PM
I bet Dana didn't expect his prized woman fighter to become a heel after this match.

The heel thing has kind of been building for awhile. I didn't watch it but apparently she was not very likable on The Ultimate Fighter thing they did before the fight.
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Post by: pilonv1 on December 28, 2013, 11:57:41 PM
Ronda is a fucking mental
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Post by: Stoney Mason on December 28, 2013, 11:59:17 PM
Honestly I don't really care about the drama stuff or the shaking hands stuff. She's paid to be a fighter. It would be nice if she wasn't a dick but it is what it is.
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Post by: Mupepe on December 29, 2013, 12:07:48 AM
Tate's game plan was pretty idiotic. That didn't help.
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Post by: fistfulofmetal on December 29, 2013, 12:09:54 AM
I just happened to remember there was a fight tonight and ended up tuning in time for the Rousey fight. Such an incredible fight. Chick is a monster.
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Post by: ToxicAdam on December 29, 2013, 12:11:49 AM
I think she did the best she could considering she was technically/physically outmatched by Rousey.

She didn't want to get in close with Rousey, but if she did, she wasn't going to run away. That just plays into Rousey's hands of grabbing that arm and pulling.



I really have no idea how this Silva fight is going to play out ... the last one was so weird.



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Post by: Mupepe on December 29, 2013, 12:18:15 AM
Well so far its definitely not going silvas way at all. Jesus. If his confidence wasn't shot before it is now probably
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Post by: ToxicAdam on December 29, 2013, 12:18:34 AM
Christ, Weidman is just manhandling him.


Dude is a smart fighter.


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Post by: Stoney Mason on December 29, 2013, 12:21:51 AM
Weidman wins the first round. Initially I thought Silva was in deep shit there with those head punches but he seemed to weather it.
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Post by: Mupepe on December 29, 2013, 12:22:31 AM
What the fuck!
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Post by: ToxicAdam on December 29, 2013, 12:22:50 AM
The second I heard compound fracture I clicked that shit off.


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Post by: Stoney Mason on December 29, 2013, 12:23:15 AM
wtf
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Post by: Stoney Mason on December 29, 2013, 12:24:15 AM
unfucking real. unfucking real. I mean you can't script this shit.
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Post by: fistfulofmetal on December 29, 2013, 12:24:29 AM
WOW
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Post by: Mupepe on December 29, 2013, 12:25:16 AM
Unbelievable fucking ending. The what ifs are gonna be debated for a long time. Silva is done.
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Post by: Mupepe on December 29, 2013, 12:25:54 AM
That replay was shudder inducing.
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Post by: ToxicAdam on December 29, 2013, 12:26:13 AM
At least it didn't happen in the first round. I saw enough in the first round to declare Weidman the better fighter.

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Post by: Stoney Mason on December 29, 2013, 12:26:31 AM
This is like the worst case of fucking blue balls ever. EVER!

So unsatisfying.

 :'(
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Post by: fistfulofmetal on December 29, 2013, 12:27:10 AM
I'm not the most knowledgeable but it seems Weidman was able to react to the leg kick fast enough and defended against it. Which resulted in what we see here.
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Post by: Stoney Mason on December 29, 2013, 12:28:09 AM
At least it didn't happen in the first round. I saw enough in the first round to declare Weidman the better fighter.

The same thing happened in the first fight and Silva was winning the second round (in the prior fight I mean) before the craziness happened. Just my opinion but one round of not very damaging ground and pound doesn't mean a guy is going to win the fight.

But what does it really matter at this stage.

meh I'm going to bed.
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Post by: Mupepe on December 29, 2013, 12:28:52 AM
This is like the worst case of fucking blue balls ever. EVER!

So unsatisfying.

 :'(
for real real. 

Weidman definitely proved his talent though. Still frustrating because there was so much time left
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Post by: Mupepe on December 29, 2013, 12:31:29 AM
I feel fucking icky. I wanna take a shower
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Post by: ToxicAdam on December 29, 2013, 12:33:33 AM
Yea, that ending was a bummer but it was a fantastic card pretty much throughout.

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Post by: Mupepe on December 29, 2013, 12:34:48 AM
Yea, that ending was a bummer but it was a fantastic card pretty much throughout.
yeah it was. But its like a really good fuck that gets interrupted during climax by your mom busting in.
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Post by: Stoney Mason on December 29, 2013, 12:37:04 AM
Also a pretty shitty way to end a career. No way Anderson is coming back from that shit. He's too old.  :'(


Well he gave me a lot of good memories. And he was most entertaining/perplexing/dazzling/bewildering fighter of this generation.

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Post by: CajoleJuice on December 29, 2013, 12:40:07 AM
i am pretty depressed right now. wow.

that rousey fight was awesome though. she is a beast.
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Post by: ToxicAdam on December 29, 2013, 12:40:27 AM
Rogan-forumites are such savages. They're already plastering that broken leg gif all over the forum.

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Post by: Mupepe on December 29, 2013, 12:43:31 AM
Also a pretty shitty way to end a career. No way Anderson is coming back from that shit. He's too old.  :'(


Well he gave me a lot of good memories. And he was most entertaining/perplexing/dazzling/bewildering fighter of this generation.
yeah I hate to see him go out like this. I was hoping that even if he was knocked out again he would eventually end his career fighting. But between both Weidman fights he is going out on a really sour note.
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Post by: Skidmark on December 29, 2013, 07:19:28 AM
At least it didn't happen in the first round. I saw enough in the first round to declare Weidman the better fighter.

The same thing happened in the first fight and Silva was winning the second round (in the prior fight I mean) before the craziness happened. Just my opinion but one round of not very damaging ground and pound doesn't mean a guy is going to win the fight.

But what does it really matter at this stage.

meh I'm going to bed.

You are just hard to impress  ;)
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Post by: Stoney Mason on January 02, 2014, 05:08:31 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MboBKexhjTU
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Post by: Skidmark on January 02, 2014, 05:16:13 PM
If anybody is interested in the details of the surgery the UFC has put a video where the doctor explains the procedure.
http://www.ufc.com/media/ufc-dr-sanders-breakdown

The more that I think about what has happened the more that I realize that I do not really fully understand people who were upset about how the silva fight ended. I was a bit upset about seeing Silva go away for a while because of this but I think other fans wanted to see a proper finish or a lengthier fight to feel satisfied about who the winner really is.

To me, I find it actually kind of poetic how in order to beat Silva Weidman had to do the unimaginable or the unexpected. It makes the story even greater, the competition is high and fierce that it went to such lengths to determine the winner. It just makes the whole thing more special, out of the ordinary and memorable.

I don't think this was a freak accident, I think Weidman knew what was up and he even baited him into kicking him.

So to be honest, I do not really feel bad about how it ended. The sport is still evolving and we are all learning from it.
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Post by: chronovore on January 05, 2014, 06:19:33 AM
I don't understand how anyone can see that as anything other than a definitive ending. It's a horrific injury, to be sure, and I am surprised that it doesn't happen more in the sport.

But what you appear to be saying, Skidmark, is that Weidman baited Silva into attacking in a manner which would allow him to inflict that kind of injury? Did I get that right?
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Post by: Skidmark on January 05, 2014, 09:20:24 AM
I don't understand how anyone can see that as anything other than a definitive ending. It's a horrific injury, to be sure, and I am surprised that it doesn't happen more in the sport.

But what you appear to be saying, Skidmark, is that Weidman baited Silva into attacking in a manner which would allow him to inflict that kind of injury? Did I get that right?

Yup, that is what I fully believe. It is really hard for me to look at the fight and see the kicks that Weidman did to Silva anything else than an invite for a response. I will try to find some gifs of Weidmans kicks.
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Post by: Skidmark on January 05, 2014, 09:25:32 AM
Just look at them yourself, he wasn't on a hunt for anything more when he threw them and he was ready check immediately:

(http://s3.amazonaws.com/br-cdn/temp_images/2013/12/30/AS2.gif)

(http://s3.amazonaws.com/br-cdn/temp_images/2013/12/30/AS3.gif)

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1904314-ufc-168-how-chris-weidman-buried-the-legend
Title: Re: Combat sports (MMA, boxing, etc) thread
Post by: Skidmark on January 05, 2014, 09:30:17 AM
Also, keep an eye on which foot he rests his body weight, he is anticipating a kick from Silva and that is why he has his weight rested on the foot further away from Silva. Usually you would want your weight distributed to move faster in any direction. He looks very prepared to me.
Title: Re: Combat sports (MMA, boxing, etc) thread
Post by: Stoney Mason on January 05, 2014, 12:54:05 PM
Checking kicks is quite common in mma. It's not a big deal. By that I mean its part of strategy like any other but its not an amazing or shocking thing that people do. I can tell you for a fact that nobody plans to shatter somebody's leg on a checked kick. It was a fluke. Weidman planned to check the kick. He didn't plan for Silva's leg to break apart. I'm not sure what the point here is... Yes he aimed to check the kick. The end result of the fight ending was still not something planned as part of a strategy.

This is not to take anything away from Weidman as if he is a bad person or an evil man or a bad fighter or to say he may not have eventually won the fight. But it also wasn't a master plan strategy of now I check kick and and shatter his leg to end the fight.

That is what people are responding to when they say they are disappointed in what happened. They wanted a conclusive finish on either side. Nobody is saying Weidman didn't win the fight. They are saying it wasn't the type of finish that conclusively determines who is the better fighter like a knockout or a submission or  a 5 round decision.
Title: Re: Combat sports (MMA, boxing, etc) thread
Post by: Skidmark on January 27, 2014, 07:34:00 AM
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-6ClDfE1jRtA/UuR6_qxgznI/AAAAAAABBb0/V_5xMhmJ9Hw/s1600/3.gif)
Move of the fight if you ask me. I want to be able to do this too, better than a knock out. :D
Title: Re: Combat sports (MMA, boxing, etc) thread
Post by: Stoney Mason on February 23, 2014, 12:05:19 AM
Well that was a bullshit stoppage. Herb Dean was really off his game completely tonight.
Title: Re: Combat sports (MMA, boxing, etc) thread
Post by: Skidmark on February 23, 2014, 12:22:27 AM
i would never have paid for it. It just didn't have much value to me.
Title: Re: Combat sports (MMA, boxing, etc) thread
Post by: Skidmark on February 23, 2014, 02:17:27 PM
A lot of people seem to agree with the stoppage, including and not surprisingly Dana white. I wonder what would have happened if this happened to Rousey instead.

On a technical level i can understand the argument and why its justifiable, I still feel that it was quick. I mean you fall down to the mat from a body shot, nothing strange here, and you turn your face away too to protect it until you get up again, intelligent defense if you ask me, just like putting your hand or knee on the floor to avoid knees and kicks to the head, here you put the back of your head in the way. Also do not feel that she has taken dangerous amount of damage either, it must have hurt but feeling sharp pain doesn't necessarily mean the end to a fight.

Title: Re: Combat sports (MMA, boxing, etc) thread
Post by: chronovore on June 04, 2014, 09:42:08 AM
(http://27.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lgm6g6sMAv1qaspmko1_500.jpg)

Old, but I think I forgot to share it here.
Title: Re: Combat sports (MMA, boxing, etc) thread
Post by: Stoney Mason on August 04, 2014, 06:47:27 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rf_WWMTR9LU

 :jawalrus
Title: Re: Combat sports (MMA, boxing, etc) thread
Post by: chronovore on August 04, 2014, 07:57:02 PM
I dunno, that "thunk" qualifies more as a headbutt than just facing off. I don't know how JJ thought that'd go over, but a push back is about the least offensive response I can think of.
Title: Re: Combat sports (MMA, boxing, etc) thread
Post by: Mupepe on August 04, 2014, 08:00:55 PM
DC has got this
Title: Re: Combat sports (MMA, boxing, etc) thread
Post by: chronovore on August 04, 2014, 08:03:56 PM
DC has got this

I hope so, just because I like to see the belt move around. That Spider Silva and GSP crap was frustrating, as they began to fight to retain the belt rather than definitively show their superiority.
Title: Re: Combat sports (MMA, boxing, etc) thread
Post by: Mupepe on August 04, 2014, 08:09:07 PM
Same here. I want him to win just for the shake up
Title: Re: Combat sports (MMA, boxing, etc) thread
Post by: Stoney Mason on August 04, 2014, 08:59:40 PM
Jon Jones 4 lyfe

 :rejoice
Title: Re: Combat sports (MMA, boxing, etc) thread
Post by: CajoleJuice on August 04, 2014, 09:10:01 PM
I would not have tried to get in between them :lol
Title: Re: Combat sports (MMA, boxing, etc) thread
Post by: chronovore on August 04, 2014, 10:19:48 PM
I would not have tried to get in between them :lol

Yeah, that was my next thought: "Wow, I wouldn't want to work Security at one of those events."
Title: Re: Combat sports (MMA, boxing, etc) thread
Post by: Stoney Mason on August 05, 2014, 01:26:15 AM
On a serious note though this is the most interesting, exciting fight in a long time in the UFC for me. I think both guys are great fighters. Should be fun.
Title: Re: Combat sports (MMA, boxing, etc) thread
Post by: Himu on August 05, 2014, 02:01:17 AM
i cannot wait for the jj and dc fight. dc all the way. fuck jj he's a dick.

just watched the video. dc you aren't allowed to do that after i called jj a dick you asshole
Title: Re: Combat sports (MMA, boxing, etc) thread
Post by: Mupepe on August 05, 2014, 10:56:42 AM
On a serious note though this is the most interesting, exciting fight in a long time in the UFC for me. I think both guys are great fighters. Should be fun.
yep.  Both are incredibly talented and it seems like a legitimate competition this time.  Most recent UFC fights are already decided as soon as they announce them
Title: Re: Combat sports (MMA, boxing, etc) thread
Post by: Stoney Mason on August 13, 2014, 01:49:30 AM
Quote
Ariel HelwaniVerified account
‏@arielhelwani
Official: Jon Jones injured, Daniel Cormier fight moved to Jan. 3.

 :fbm
Title: Re: Combat sports (MMA, boxing, etc) thread
Post by: CajoleJuice on August 13, 2014, 03:52:17 PM
Quote
Ariel HelwaniVerified account
‏@arielhelwani
Official: Jon Jones injured, Daniel Cormier fight moved to Jan. 3.

 :fbm

uggggggghhhhhhhhh
Title: Re: Combat sports (MMA, boxing, etc) thread
Post by: Stoney Mason on September 20, 2014, 07:43:13 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7HvZPUewM68&list=UUJI_sbgvugk-x3NlY6n8_UQ
Title: Re: Combat sports (MMA, boxing, etc) thread
Post by: chronovore on September 20, 2014, 08:04:00 PM
I haven't finished watching the video, but I will later. I didn't know Wanderlei had done bare-knuckle fighting. That shit is hella scary. I also agree with what I've seen so far: the fighters are consistently underpaid for the level of risk they take. It's harsh to see someone like Dana consistently manipulate and shortchange the fighters. Sad.

Though maybe Wanderlei's talking about a different group...? The other franchises are ALWAYS full of promises, but short on money and common sense.
Title: Re: Combat sports (MMA, boxing, etc) thread
Post by: Stoney Mason on December 29, 2014, 12:11:28 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CsT_cJCJi-0

The big one. Finally.
Title: Re: Combat sports (MMA, boxing, etc) thread
Post by: Stoney Mason on January 04, 2015, 02:16:16 AM
Was an interesting fight.

The first three rounds were great. Back and forth action. They both gassed by the 4th and 5th round but cormier had gassed more and couldn't effectively put up offense any more. I wish the ref had separated them more in the last two rounds as there was a lot of hanging on each other in those two rounds.

I still feel a little letdown though. While Jones won the fight clearly, neither guy landed the definitive damage my blood lust demands. 
Title: Re: Combat sports (MMA, boxing, etc) thread
Post by: ToxicAdam on January 04, 2015, 02:30:33 AM
Whenever you have a size mismatch like that, it always comes down to if the smaller guy can get inside and land big shots. That just never really happened as Jones was in control pretty much the whole time.

Title: Re: Combat sports (MMA, boxing, etc) thread
Post by: Skidmark on January 04, 2015, 05:28:42 AM
I felt that Cormier handled Jones size very well. I never felt that Jones was allowed to utilize his height and the reach advantage the way we are used to see him do. Cormier was fighting like a beast and he was able to execute his game plan very well the first three rounds. I even loved the lift-up in the air slam down take down he did in the last round.

To me, Cormier won the first three rounds. That is my opinion and how i feel and I know that the scores and stats show otherwise. His combos were landing and they were brutal. To me a solid two or three punch combo counts more than three separate kicks or three jabs that have no follow ups or sway.
Title: Re: Combat sports (MMA, boxing, etc) thread
Post by: Skidmark on January 07, 2015, 04:17:31 PM
Ok I just rewatched the match and I feel now that I was seeing only what i wanted to see the first time around. Either way, this is how I was while watching it the first time. :D

(http://i28.tinypic.com/2r4ho2e.gif)

In other news, someone tested suspeciously low on testo before his fight:

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B6xf1HuCcAA3nWo.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/jpF1TB8.jpg)

Also, the viking has a message for all of us today:

(http://i.imgur.com/zkfHsgj.png)
Title: Re: Combat sports (MMA, boxing, etc) thread
Post by: chronovore on January 07, 2015, 07:54:59 PM
So... cocaine?
Title: Re: Combat sports (MMA, boxing, etc) thread
Post by: Skidmark on January 10, 2015, 10:10:40 AM
So... cocaine?

Yeah, that too.  :D

(http://i.imgur.com/aVurwC7.png)
Title: Re: Combat sports (MMA, boxing, etc) thread
Post by: Mupepe on January 10, 2015, 11:22:39 AM
DC is still awesome. He will come back with a vengeance. :believe
Title: Re: Combat sports (MMA, boxing, etc) thread
Post by: Skidmark on October 09, 2016, 08:59:14 AM
What the fuck is going on here?

(http://i.imgur.com/qkzG5B0.png)

Also, the main fight is HORSE SHIT!!

spoiler (click to show/hide)
The one guy moves like his lower half is made out of Legos and the other still hasn't learned to protect his chin with his shoulder despite having the UFC's most famous getting knocked out gif ever from the same dude he is facing. FUCKING HORSE SHIT!!
[close]
Title: Re: Combat sports (MMA, boxing, etc) thread
Post by: Stoney Mason on April 05, 2018, 04:05:22 PM
http://www.espn.com/mma/story/_/id/23041711/conor-mcgregor-makes-appearance-ufc-223-media-day

classy
Title: Re: Combat sports (MMA, boxing, etc) thread
Post by: ToxicAdam on April 05, 2018, 05:04:19 PM

Dana White statement.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KjBGMAE7GBU&feature=youtu.be

Mcgregor is fucked. He could be facing some serious crimes here.

Title: Re: Combat sports (MMA, boxing, etc) thread
Post by: chronovore on April 05, 2018, 10:41:07 PM
Dana outright lying: There is no warrant. NYPD has stated this to multiple reporters. This is a straight up NWO angle.  :lol :lol



(https://i.imgur.com/jmBM1i9.gif)



 :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol
http://calgarysun.com/sports/mma/conor-mcgregor-causes-a-stir-at-ufc-223-media-day
People have said from the match-ups and championship opportunities that UFC has long been less of a sport and more about theater. I had no idea it'd gone this far.
Title: Re: Combat sports (MMA, boxing, etc) thread
Post by: Stoney Mason on April 05, 2018, 11:06:18 PM
Dana outright lying: There is no warrant. NYPD has stated this to multiple reporters. This is a straight up NWO angle.  :lol :lol



(https://i.imgur.com/jmBM1i9.gif)



 :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol
http://calgarysun.com/sports/mma/conor-mcgregor-causes-a-stir-at-ufc-223-media-day
People have said from the match-ups and championship opportunities that UFC has long been less of a sport and more about theater. I had no idea it'd gone this far.

Dana has let Conor basically run the UFC and had a separate set of rules for him. The promotion has been run terribly in the last few years. Something Something chickens coming home to roost.

http://www.espn.com/mma/story/_/id/23045391/three-fights-ufc-223-called-following-bus-incident-involving-conor-mcgregor
Title: Re: Combat sports (MMA, boxing, etc) thread
Post by: Stoney Mason on April 05, 2018, 11:31:36 PM
Quote
NBC News: Champion UFC fighter Conor McGregor is in custody and is expected to be charged with assault by the NYPD following an incident in Brooklyn, NY earlier today, @jonathan4ny & @SarahWallace4NY report.

https://twitter.com/Tom_Winter/status/982087755592290305
Title: Re: Combat sports (MMA, boxing, etc) thread
Post by: nachobro on April 06, 2018, 11:52:40 AM
https://twitter.com/bokamotoESPN/status/982253230531919872

:sabu

Just cancel the show, Dana
Title: Re: Combat sports (MMA, boxing, etc) thread
Post by: Stoney Mason on April 06, 2018, 01:18:30 PM
lol

get fucked dana
Title: Re: Combat sports (MMA, boxing, etc) thread
Post by: Stoney Mason on April 06, 2018, 04:47:21 PM
Quote
UFC 223 main event is official. Al Iaquinta will face Khabib Nurmagomedov in five round title fight. Nurmagomedov is eligible to win the undisputed title, Iaquinta is not because he did not weigh in at 155 pounds this morning.

 :trash
Title: Re: Combat sports (MMA, boxing, etc) thread
Post by: warcock on April 06, 2018, 05:28:53 PM
Ggg canelo got canceled.  I am furious. Could of just shut your stupid whore mouth and win , golovkin. Wtf do i have to look forward to now. Watch a distinguished mentally-challenged fellow flail around at  joshua and quite possibly win??
Title: Re: Combat sports (MMA, boxing, etc) thread
Post by: HardcoreRetro on April 07, 2018, 10:00:45 AM
World Boxing Super Series?

Guess the Joshua thing is about Deontay Wilder.
Title: Re: Combat sports (MMA, boxing, etc) thread
Post by: Momo on April 07, 2018, 10:02:49 AM
can we merge the other two threads into this one? I didnt know we had a combat sports thread and i very much want to use this one going forward
Title: Re: Combat sports (MMA, boxing, etc) thread
Post by: warcock on April 07, 2018, 12:57:33 PM
World Boxing Super Series?

Guess the Joshua thing is about Deontay Wilder.

Hrmm ill look forward to that.
Title: Re: Combat sports (MMA, boxing, etc) thread
Post by: Momo on April 09, 2018, 02:29:42 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2JuaBoFrgM&feature=youtu.be

Honestly it's time for Joe to fuck off and do fight companions with his stoner cronies, it's what he wants to do anyway and his fans like that dumb shit more anyway (https://i.imgur.com/bDhzicT.png)

Bonus - Joe's explanation https://www.instagram.com/p/BhVkUgKnexE/
Quote
joerogan It is insanely rare to have a fighter as dominant as @khabib_nurmagomedov. In one of the most talent stacked divisions to go 25 and 0 is incredible, but to do it without even having a rough moment in a fight is completely unheard of.
The closest thing to adversity he’s had to face in the Octagon before Saturday was one solid punch that was landed by Michael Johnson in a fight that was otherwise a horrifically one-sided mauling. When I’m commentating on someone that dominant I am constantly looking for cracks in their armor, and on Saturday night we saw the first of those cracks exposed by an incredibly game Al Iaquinta.
Most people, myself included, expected the highly favored Khabib to rag doll his last minute opponent the way he’s done to everyone else he faced in the Octagon, and that was the case in the early going, but as the fight got into the later rounds Al was able to keep the fight standing and we saw some possible flaws in Khabib’s defense. Make no mistake about it, Khabib won that fight by a landslide, but it went to a decision, and that in and of itself was an upset.
When I’m looking at a fighter as spectacularly talented as Khabib fighting a guy like Al who is an almost impossible underdog I’m not just looking at this fight, but I’m looking at openings that can possibly be exploited by the best fighters in the division. I saw some of those openings Saturday night, and I certainly found them interesting. In no way am I biased against Khabib, in fact I’m a massive fan of his and he’s one of my all time favorite fighters. If any of you were annoyed by my concentrating on that aspect of an incredibly dominant performance by one of the most impressive guys in the history of the division, please accept my sincere apology.
When I commentate on fights my goal is to highlight the action and make it more exciting for the fans at home. Obviously all this is done live in real time, and if I had to go back and do it again I would often be able to do a better job. Even after all the years I’ve been commentating I still learn something new about the position with each and every event, and when that stops happening that will most likely be when I quit.
Title: Re: Combat sports (MMA, boxing, etc) thread
Post by: agrajag on April 09, 2018, 02:47:55 PM
This Zabit guy is the real deal
Title: Re: Combat sports (MMA, boxing, etc) thread
Post by: Momo on April 09, 2018, 02:51:11 PM
This Zabit guy is the real deal
Yeah he's insanely talented. I hope he sorta reigns it in a bit though, he's going to get himself Weidman'd with all the spinning and fancy shit, other than that there's no limit for him.
Title: Re: Combat sports (MMA, boxing, etc) thread
Post by: agrajag on April 09, 2018, 03:02:53 PM
Yeah, but Weidman was out of his element. He merely adopted the spinning shit; Zabit was born in it, molded by it.
Title: Re: Combat sports (MMA, boxing, etc) thread
Post by: Momo on April 16, 2018, 02:31:47 AM
SUG #7
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QBNetU9MUxY

Anyone watch the fight cards this weekend?
Title: Re: Combat sports (MMA, boxing, etc) thread
Post by: warcock on April 16, 2018, 07:48:50 AM
This Zabit guy is the real deal

His kicks looked more impressive than jon bones. That spinning up kick to the chin was right up therr with pettis cage bounce kick. His hands were AIGHT tho, wasnt too impressed seem to lack snap and power but who knows not on the receiving end. Hes kind of a freak for division, seemed to gas out at end. All in all im excited to welcome our eastern european overlords in all combat sports  :-*  Fueled by class warfare :noah
Title: Re: Combat sports (MMA, boxing, etc) thread
Post by: Snoopycat_ on April 17, 2018, 02:40:36 PM
Joanna Jedrzejczyk still running around claiming she won the fight. Now she's saying Rose's coach told her she won the fight

https://www.bloodyelbow.com/platform/amp/2018/4/17/17246056/jedrzejczyk-on-ufc-223-loss-to-namajunas-dana-white-was-disgusted-by-the-decision-mma?utm_campaign=bloodyelbow&utm_content=chorus&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter&__twitter_impression=true (https://www.bloodyelbow.com/platform/amp/2018/4/17/17246056/jedrzejczyk-on-ufc-223-loss-to-namajunas-dana-white-was-disgusted-by-the-decision-mma?utm_campaign=bloodyelbow&utm_content=chorus&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter&__twitter_impression=true)

I like Joanna but she got to face reality and learn from her losses.

Title: Re: Combat sports (MMA, boxing, etc) thread
Post by: Momo on April 17, 2018, 04:16:21 PM
It was close enough where I could easily score it for JJ (and did) and it wouldn't be a Diaz/Chael type delusion, however yes, it's time to let go JJ.
Title: Re: Combat sports (MMA, boxing, etc) thread
Post by: Snoopycat_ on April 18, 2018, 05:14:06 AM
It was definitely 2-2 but I give Rose the last round, mostly because of her last minute takedown
Title: Re: Combat sports (MMA, boxing, etc) thread
Post by: warcock on April 18, 2018, 07:10:39 AM
Bad decision. Not the worse ever. Rua machida 1 or byrd ggg canelo score rofl
Title: Re: Combat sports (MMA, boxing, etc) thread
Post by: Momo on April 18, 2018, 07:24:12 AM
It was definitely 2-2 but I give Rose the last round, mostly because of her last minute takedown
They need to do something about that in scoring, there is no sense in scoring a takedown where the person getting taken down gets up immediately or pulls the wrestler straight into a guard and works them from below. It's fucking dumb, if they do that then they need to start counting submission attempts as well. That being said the takedown wasnt the difference maker for me.
Title: Re: Combat sports (MMA, boxing, etc) thread
Post by: Momo on May 07, 2018, 12:48:17 AM
Great weekend of MMA!

One FC launched an app (https://onefc.com/download-app/http://) that will allow you to stream their events free. This will be usefull for the card coming up this weekend ;) There's some full matches available to watch already.

At LFA39 this happened - Rivera vs Royval (https://streamable.com/pslbj) warning not safe for LIFE finish. Pearl Gonzales won over at Invicta (https://streamable.com/8kcdn), she's coming on after her horrible UFC run. Highlight of the weekend Uncle Creepy vs The Gooch (https://streamja.com/vVlz) some controversy here, but god damn.

Bonus: Evil Fedor was in action (https://twitter.com/ZPGIFs/status/992820618813845504) and in a murderous rage as usual.
Tenshin continues to crush (https://twitter.com/Jolassanda/status/993086019053543425) (seriously this guy is fucking amazing)
John Gotti III  (https://streamable.com/zsie5)wins :doge
Title: Re: Combat sports (MMA, boxing, etc) thread
Post by: Momo on May 07, 2018, 01:16:37 AM
And no, I'm not going to comment on GGG murdering a bum :lol
Title: Re: Combat sports (MMA, boxing, etc) thread
Post by: warcock on May 07, 2018, 11:58:44 AM
Holy shits aleks looks in shape.
Title: Re: Combat sports (MMA, boxing, etc) thread
Post by: Stoney Mason on May 08, 2018, 10:04:43 AM
Quote
Rumours of a Nate Diaz versus Georges St-Pierre fight have been doing the rounds in the MMA media over the last few days and UFC President Dana White has today confirmed that they are true.

Speaking on the UFC Unfiltered podcast earlier today, White confirmed that the UFC are targeting a lightweight bout between St-Pierre and Diaz

 :comeon
Title: Re: Combat sports (MMA, boxing, etc) thread
Post by: Momo on May 08, 2018, 10:38:35 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/T2U16Ur.png)
Title: Re: Combat sports (MMA, boxing, etc) thread
Post by: Momo on May 08, 2018, 01:21:32 PM
http://www.ufc.com/news/UFC-ESPN-Groundbreaking-Agreement?sf88202595=1
Title: Re: Combat sports (MMA, boxing, etc) thread
Post by: Momo on May 11, 2018, 04:24:23 AM
https://twitter.com/latimespugmire/status/994800998622343171

And Bellator said thanks
Title: Re: Combat sports (MMA, boxing, etc) thread
Post by: Momo on May 11, 2018, 09:28:18 AM
https://streamable.com/05ces (https://streamable.com/05ces)

MACKENZIE (great) FATASS DERN

L

M

F

A

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Jesus Christ girl, best part you can hear someone int he crowd say 'Jeeeeeeesus' right after it's announced  :neogaf


https://twitter.com/lthomasnews/status/994921161044701187
Title: Re: Combat sports (MMA, boxing, etc) thread
Post by: warcock on May 12, 2018, 10:30:58 PM
loma

:noah  :noah  :noah  :noah  :noah  :noah  :noah  :noah  :noah  :noah
  :lawd :lawd :lawd :lawd :lawd :lawd :lawd :lawd :lawd
:putin :putin :putin :putin putin putin :putin :putin
Title: Re: Combat sports (MMA, boxing, etc) thread
Post by: Snoopycat_ on May 13, 2018, 09:07:11 AM
I can't believe Pennington's corner put her into the 5th round. I wouldn't be surprised if she changes camps cos that was some bullshit
Title: Re: Combat sports (MMA, boxing, etc) thread
Post by: Momo on May 13, 2018, 10:56:38 AM
Yeah she need to move, that was ridiculous
Title: Re: Combat sports (MMA, boxing, etc) thread
Post by: Momo on May 13, 2018, 11:20:23 AM
It was a hell of a fight :rejoice
It was on TV here
Title: Re: Combat sports (MMA, boxing, etc) thread
Post by: agrajag on May 13, 2018, 01:20:55 PM
Loma  :rejoice
Title: Re: Combat sports (MMA, boxing, etc) thread
Post by: Stoney Mason on May 13, 2018, 01:29:35 PM
I can't believe Pennington's corner put her into the 5th round. I wouldn't be surprised if she changes camps cos that was some bullshit

I've never liked that macho element of the sport where people continue to fight in mma fights when they are hopelessly outclassed. People should be more willing to throw in the towel versus taking a ridiculous beating with no hope of winning.

Then again the matchmaking also creates some of these situations.
Title: Re: Combat sports (MMA, boxing, etc) thread
Post by: Snoopycat_ on May 13, 2018, 07:24:27 PM
I can't believe Pennington's corner put her into the 5th round. I wouldn't be surprised if she changes camps cos that was some bullshit

I've never liked that macho element of the sport where people continue to fight in mma fights when they are hopelessly outclassed. People should be more willing to throw in the towel versus taking a ridiculous beating with no hope of winning.

Then again the matchmaking also creates some of these situations.

I was amazed Cooper's team didn't pull out when Dern couldn't make weight. 7 pounds is a big advantage at that level. I like UFC but they're hard to take seriously when they allow bum fights like that
Title: Re: Combat sports (MMA, boxing, etc) thread
Post by: Momo on May 27, 2018, 04:25:05 PM
lmao wonderboy vs till. nice robbery judges :lol
Title: Re: Combat sports (MMA, boxing, etc) thread
Post by: Snoopycat_ on May 28, 2018, 02:46:46 PM
That was a crap card, topped off by a crap headliner. Thought I was watching Strictly Come Dancing. 48 strikes in a 5 round match is terrible.
Title: Re: Combat sports (MMA, boxing, etc) thread
Post by: team filler on June 15, 2018, 04:08:46 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNlQQ-SX3X4
Title: Re: Combat sports (MMA, boxing, etc) thread
Post by: HardcoreRetro on June 15, 2018, 08:22:22 AM
Sounds like the Joshua vs Wilder shitfest'll happen this fall.
Title: Re: Combat sports (MMA, boxing, etc) thread
Post by: Momo on July 06, 2018, 12:42:10 AM
I just want DC to win :(

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M0CfNA12aFw
Title: Re: Combat sports (MMA, boxing, etc) thread
Post by: nachobro on July 08, 2018, 12:00:56 AM
wtf was that trash ass fight? :maf worst hw fight ever?

rogan with the "this should be a double loss" :lol
Title: Re: Combat sports (MMA, boxing, etc) thread
Post by: nachobro on July 08, 2018, 12:03:21 AM
no post fight interview :rofl
Title: Re: Combat sports (MMA, boxing, etc) thread
Post by: Stoney Mason on July 08, 2018, 12:36:30 AM
Great achievement for Cormier after the Jon Jones stuff.
Title: Re: Combat sports (MMA, boxing, etc) thread
Post by: Stoney Mason on July 08, 2018, 12:38:14 AM
I don't blame Lewis for that fight. I think he gave what he could. Ngannou just was nothing there. I didn't understand. I was guessing he had to have been hurt or something.
Title: Re: Combat sports (MMA, boxing, etc) thread
Post by: nachobro on July 08, 2018, 01:04:35 AM
Good shit to DC there. That was a well fought match. That WWE stuff after though :doge
Title: Re: Combat sports (MMA, boxing, etc) thread
Post by: nachobro on July 08, 2018, 01:06:05 AM
I think Brock still has to serve his suspension so I imagine we'll get a rematch before Brock is able to actually fight.
Title: Re: Combat sports (MMA, boxing, etc) thread
Post by: Momo on July 08, 2018, 01:53:44 AM
 :rejoice :rejoice :rejoice
Title: Re: Combat sports (MMA, boxing, etc) thread
Post by: warcock on July 29, 2018, 01:29:23 PM
Kovalev fight on the 4th.

Can't find the Mikey Garcia fight torrent :(.

Anything else exciting coming up soon?
Title: Re: Combat sports (MMA, boxing, etc) thread
Post by: Momo on July 29, 2018, 02:22:28 PM
This weekend had 4 excellent mma cards
Title: Re: Combat sports (MMA, boxing, etc) thread
Post by: agrajag on July 29, 2018, 02:38:22 PM
How can UFC masquerade as a legitimate sporting league when they pull circus acts like Brock getting a completely undeserved title shot? The dude got forcibly retired in an embarrassing fashion, came back years later a completely uneventful fight with an over the hill Mark Hunt where he just smothered him for three rounds, and subsequently got popped by USADA. And then that cringeworthy WWE promo with Cormier.
Title: Re: Combat sports (MMA, boxing, etc) thread
Post by: warcock on July 29, 2018, 03:38:37 PM
Yeah i dunno wtf is this fixation with lesnar. The great white hope narrative i guess will garner an especially virulent dedicated fan base that will fork over money for pay per views but fuck. Dont know much about the garbrandt feud but will watch. Boxing has got me pretty amped up of late tbh despite GGG having a hymen.
Title: Re: Combat sports (MMA, boxing, etc) thread
Post by: Momo on July 29, 2018, 03:42:04 PM
Canelo buying some judges to call his loss a draw then trying to PED to get GGG the next time is an interesting sequence of events to lead to calling GGG a hymen, I hope GGG never gives that bum another fight. 
Title: Re: Combat sports (MMA, boxing, etc) thread
Post by: warcock on July 29, 2018, 03:46:21 PM
Canelo buying some judges to call his loss a draw then trying to PED to get GGG the next time is an interesting sequence of events to lead to calling GGG a hymen, I hope GGG never gives that bum another fight.

GGG beats roided canelo 7 times out of 10. In fact GGG already beat roided canelo. That is why. I wanted it in may. Now i have to wait.
Title: Re: Combat sports (MMA, boxing, etc) thread
Post by: Momo on July 29, 2018, 03:50:15 PM
I mean it's the same as the Lesnar shit, why reward this absolute clown with a marque fight? In the Lesnar case I can at least understand it from DC's point of view as he wants one last payday before he retires, if GGG doesnt want to deal with that fuck soon again I say good for him.
Title: Re: Combat sports (MMA, boxing, etc) thread
Post by: Momo on August 06, 2018, 01:04:21 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/GXGh6pm.jpg)
Title: Re: Combat sports (MMA, boxing, etc) thread
Post by: Momo on September 20, 2018, 12:38:30 AM
Boxing is corrupt as fuck, but fuck Jon Jones and fuck USADA.
Title: Re: Combat sports (MMA, boxing, etc) thread
Post by: Momo on October 06, 2018, 04:30:33 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/Dkpodoa.png)
Title: Re: Combat sports (MMA, boxing, etc) thread
Post by: team filler on October 07, 2018, 01:12:39 AM
khabib da gawd
Title: Re: Combat sports (MMA, boxing, etc) thread
Post by: Momo on October 07, 2018, 02:40:09 AM
:bow2
Title: Re: Combat sports (MMA, boxing, etc) thread
Post by: Stoney Mason on October 07, 2018, 02:43:35 AM
Dana White is full of shit
Title: Re: Combat sports (MMA, boxing, etc) thread
Post by: team filler on October 07, 2018, 03:10:27 AM
like apollo creed vs ivan drogo
Title: Re: Combat sports (MMA, boxing, etc) thread
Post by: Skidmark on October 07, 2018, 03:21:49 AM
https://twitter.com/ramgilboa/status/1048808154111336448?s=21
Title: Re: Combat sports (MMA, boxing, etc) thread
Post by: Skidmark on October 07, 2018, 03:28:27 AM
https://www.instagram.com/p/BonyLR2g04z/
Title: Re: Combat sports (MMA, boxing, etc) thread
Post by: team filler on October 07, 2018, 03:58:33 AM
https://twitter.com/dont_tell_kay/status/1048831553629970433?s=19
Title: Re: Combat sports (MMA, boxing, etc) thread
Post by: Momo on October 07, 2018, 05:56:43 AM
OH WOW. So the Team Eagle guy was just trying to follow Khabib to get in/stop that action till the drunkishman interfered? :lol
Title: Re: Combat sports (MMA, boxing, etc) thread
Post by: Propagandhim on October 07, 2018, 11:45:22 AM
Was just thinking back to that time  when everyone wanted Mayweather to fight Ronda Rousey.  Like, they were actually serious about it. 

 :lol :lol :lol
Title: Re: Combat sports (MMA, boxing, etc) thread
Post by: HardcoreRetro on October 07, 2018, 12:03:34 PM
https://youtu.be/X2QgDWSfQik

What'd happen if that actually went through. (Lucia Rijker was the undefeated women kickbox champion at the time. Versus basically a nobody.)
Title: Re: Combat sports (MMA, boxing, etc) thread
Post by: Momo on October 07, 2018, 12:18:58 PM
The Khabib memes are glorious, I'd post some but I'm on my phone and it's aids to try to deal with
Title: Re: Combat sports (MMA, boxing, etc) thread
Post by: Skidmark on October 07, 2018, 01:19:01 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Do4bqWnU8AALnpf.jpg:large

Edit: I got a stupid idea to write down the score card in text and then my adhd meds kicked in and yeah.. I will leave it here anyway. Most formatted table on the bore?

WHITE
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4
 
 
  Round Score  |  Score Total  |  Round  |  Score Total  |  Score Round  ||
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4
 
 
  Round Score  |  Score Total  |  Round  |  Score Total  |  Score Round  ||
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4
 
 
  Decision: Normagedov won by tap out 3:03 of the 4th round - rear naked choke

Title: Re: Combat sports (MMA, boxing, etc) thread
Post by: Skidmark on October 08, 2018, 02:46:30 AM
Conor telling Khabib “It’s only business” at the end of the third round. Not sure what that means, was the whole buss attack incident only business too?


https://www.reddit.com/r/ufc/comments/9m3adl/mcgregor_its_only_business_khabib_guess_so/
Title: Re: Combat sports (MMA, boxing, etc) thread
Post by: team filler on October 08, 2018, 03:03:35 AM
well he sure got the business from khabib  8)
Title: Re: Combat sports (MMA, boxing, etc) thread
Post by: Momo on October 08, 2018, 09:12:45 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/SmVFymU.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/WkoSbku.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/NPO3KPW.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/XjjFOCa.jpg)
Title: Re: Combat sports (MMA, boxing, etc) thread
Post by: Skidmark on October 09, 2018, 01:49:24 PM
A few updates here:

Some people are claiming that Conor didn’t say “It’s only business”. What he said was “Don’t kiss us”. It’s hard to tell what he actually said. Both versions of what he might have said have gotten support by different groups of people.

Some also argue that the “It’s only business” interpretation was simply about the cheating that Conor did during that round, specifically about him hooking his fingers into the inside of Khabib’s glove, and in that context it is basically him saying to Khabib that by doing what he did he is just looking out for his own interest, as in basically saying something like I got to do what I got to do. That is the argument anyway.

The initial claim, which is also the counter argument to that interpretation, is that Conor said “It’s only business” to get Khabib to understand that the beef and all the insults leading up to the fight weren’t personal and it was just to promote the fight. This interpretation has its support and its own criticism as well. The incident took place Right after the third round just ended, which was the first round that the judges scored in Conor’s favor. So why would he say that when the fight started going in his favor? To play mind games? The previous round is also when Khabib did the most ground and pound punishment on him and was also talking to him during the beating, basically telling Conor things like “Let’s talk now!!”, “Talk now!!” Which is audiable in some clips online. Some people also argue that Conor tried to touch gloves in the beginning of the third round which Khabib dismissed to which some people have said that it only looked that way on the broadcast camera angle but it wasn’t the case from the different views.

Anyway, that was the “It’s only business” discussion.

Some people claim that Conor’s corner was shouting insults at Khabib during the fight, and according to TMZ things like “Fucking Muslim rat” were also shouted out by them.

Apparently Conor has already called Dana White to ask for a rematch. Dana didn’t answer whether Conor would get an immediate rematch or not, he said that they will first see what happens to Khabib and the commission ruling regarding the post fight riot first. Dana also mentioned that Tony and Pettis have been in the line for a title shot as well.

Dana also suggested a minimum of 4 and a maximum of 6 months suspension for Khabib with a $250,000 fine. This is of course not something up to Dana but there is actually a lot of cooperation between the UFC and the commissions since it is more of a partnership rather than a party ruling over the other.

Some good videos that highlight the latest updates below:

The latest updates as of today:
https://youtu.be/L6OlSXqMOcA

UFC community and UFC fighters reactions to the fight and the incident that followed it:
https://youtu.be/bXqkGcigIAY

A summary of what took place inside and outside the ring the night of the fight:
https://youtu.be/S9-67cVE9n4

A video highlighting some of the cheating that Conor did during the fight that went unpunished and mostly missed or dismissed:
https://youtu.be/pjZjz9YY48I

A compilation of a few interesting videos after the fight and a bunch of memes about the whole thing:
https://youtu.be/ImgkUf2VXlY

A bonus video of two dudes reviewing Conor’s whiskey. Jump to 4 minutes if you want to skip the intro talk and all the glass sniffing:
https://youtu.be/yzpv3V0jnCs
Title: Re: Combat sports (MMA, boxing, etc) thread
Post by: Skidmark on October 09, 2018, 02:01:36 PM
The clear implication was "don't work yourself into a shoot, brother"

I couldn’t quite understand that, could you elaborate a bit more on it?
Title: Re: Combat sports (MMA, boxing, etc) thread
Post by: Skidmark on October 10, 2018, 03:40:38 AM
Yeah that’s what I take as. I added the different interpretations and arguments just to share them.
Title: Re: Combat sports (MMA, boxing, etc) thread
Post by: Assimilate on October 10, 2018, 08:38:56 AM
After watching the fight again on replay, I gotta say I didn't think Conor lost as bad as I initially thought.The guy hasn't fought an MMA fight in 2 years, and in between those 2 years it was a bullshit boxing match with Mayweather.

Title: Re: Combat sports (MMA, boxing, etc) thread
Post by: Momo on October 10, 2018, 09:31:38 AM
The fight was ridiculously one sided, only difference between this and Barbosa was that Khabib decided he wanted to end it.
Title: Re: Combat sports (MMA, boxing, etc) thread
Post by: El Babua on November 04, 2018, 10:51:11 PM
Floyd fighting kickboxer Tenshin Nasukawa

https://www.bjpenn.com/mma-news/rizin/breaking-floyd-mayweather-to-battle-kickboxing-star-tenshin-nasukawa-in-tokyo/

Live press conference:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iKkh6k9IQZg
Title: Re: Combat sports (MMA, boxing, etc) thread
Post by: agrajag on November 04, 2018, 10:52:39 PM
Yo, the Jacare fight was ridic
Title: Re: Combat sports (MMA, boxing, etc) thread
Post by: Momo on November 05, 2018, 07:59:05 AM
Tenshin will fucking kill Floyd
Title: Re: Combat sports (MMA, boxing, etc) thread
Post by: nachobro on November 06, 2018, 02:35:50 PM
no rules set yet, no weight set yet, this thing is supposedly happening in a month, and it'll be broadcast at like 5am in the US? i'm doubtful it even happens tbh. or it'll be some 3-5 round exhibition boxing thing.
Title: Re: Combat sports (MMA, boxing, etc) thread
Post by: Momo on November 06, 2018, 03:39:24 PM
If it's under any other ruleset but boxing I'm putting 10k on Tenshin
Title: Re: Combat sports (MMA, boxing, etc) thread
Post by: nachobro on November 06, 2018, 04:23:48 PM
theres no way it's anything other than boxing :lol
Title: Re: Combat sports (MMA, boxing, etc) thread
Post by: nachobro on November 07, 2018, 07:58:29 PM
https://www.instagram.com/p/Bp49AUphcLu/

Fight isn't happening. Floyd said that it was supposed to be a 3 round private exhibition, not what Rizin was advertising :lol

aka they wanted to rules to be something other than boxing
Title: Re: Combat sports (MMA, boxing, etc) thread
Post by: agrajag on November 07, 2018, 08:10:34 PM
Wtf, Floyd was hyping the fight on his own Instagram acct.
Title: Re: Combat sports (MMA, boxing, etc) thread
Post by: HardcoreRetro on December 03, 2018, 03:35:09 PM
That Wilder vs Fury fight. A big old load of bullshit that was.
Title: Re: Combat sports (MMA, boxing, etc) thread
Post by: Momo on December 03, 2018, 03:52:07 PM
Refuse to watch boxing post ggg canelo
Title: Re: Combat sports (MMA, boxing, etc) thread
Post by: HardcoreRetro on December 03, 2018, 04:29:22 PM
You should give the Briedis vs. Mikaelian fight a watch. Now that was some real bullshit.
Title: Re: Combat sports (MMA, boxing, etc) thread
Post by: Momo on December 31, 2018, 12:52:16 AM
Rizin14 starts in 8 minutes you fucks.

YOU FUCKS.
Title: Re: Combat sports (MMA, boxing, etc) thread
Post by: Snoopycat_ on December 31, 2018, 11:50:38 AM
Lol. The mad yellow midget didn't last 3 minutes. 1 tiny jab and Tenshin was knocked on his ass.
Title: Re: Combat sports (MMA, boxing, etc) thread
Post by: nachobro on February 17, 2019, 11:55:07 PM
https://twitter.com/GIFSkull/status/1097358184203771904

and now cain should retire but he won't
Title: Re: Combat sports (MMA, boxing, etc) thread
Post by: Momo on February 18, 2019, 01:43:21 AM
cain velastquezt
Title: Re: Combat sports (MMA, boxing, etc) thread
Post by: agrajag on February 18, 2019, 01:46:54 AM
Francis "Abel" Nnganou
Title: Re: Combat sports (MMA, boxing, etc) thread
Post by: Momo on February 25, 2019, 12:25:26 AM
https://gfycat.com/viciousbitteriberiannase-ufc-fight-night-blachowicz-jan-blachowicz


looooooooooooooooooooooooooool
Title: Re: Combat sports (MMA, boxing, etc) thread
Post by: El Babua on March 18, 2019, 06:47:36 PM
lol wtf

:dead
Title: Re: Combat sports (MMA, boxing, etc) thread
Post by: Momo on March 20, 2019, 02:04:41 PM
Dillashaw you fucking brainlet :lol
Title: Re: Combat sports (MMA, boxing, etc) thread
Post by: chronovore on March 20, 2019, 10:31:23 PM
UFC PPVs will be exlusively provided through ESPN+ going forward. Not included with ESPN+, but only able to be purchased through ESPN+.

So they want you to pay for an OTT monthly subscription streaming app to be allowed to pay $65 for their PPVs.

(https://www.lowkickmma.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/DanaWhiteConfused.jpg)


Oh, you also need to have a Fight Pass subscription to watch most of the other shows.

EDIT:

https://twitter.com/latimespugmire/status/1107736822770073600


 :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-wntX-a3jSY
Title: Re: Combat sports (MMA, boxing, etc) thread
Post by: Momo on April 14, 2019, 04:17:57 AM
unbelievable, I didnt expect to see Holloway lose for many years unless he came up against Khabib
Title: Re: Combat sports (MMA, boxing, etc) thread
Post by: team filler on May 24, 2019, 02:59:51 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMsiOSej-nI
Title: Re: Combat sports (MMA, boxing, etc) thread
Post by: Momo on May 24, 2019, 03:03:06 AM
yeah that motherfucker got fucked.

unrelated
https://streamable.com/8mrxk
Title: Re: Combat sports (MMA, boxing, etc) thread
Post by: team filler on June 02, 2019, 12:26:38 AM
https://twitter.com/DAZN_USA/status/1135021917134557185

 :pitbull
Title: Re: Combat sports (MMA, boxing, etc) thread
Post by: nachobro on June 02, 2019, 12:56:09 AM
:leon :playa
Title: Re: Combat sports (MMA, boxing, etc) thread
Post by: team filler on June 02, 2019, 12:57:26 AM
we got every flag emoji but the mexican one  :thinking :thinking :thinking :maf
Title: Re: Combat sports (MMA, boxing, etc) thread
Post by: nachobro on June 02, 2019, 01:00:58 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/VTw8Qbd.png)
Title: Re: Combat sports (MMA, boxing, etc) thread
Post by: team filler on June 02, 2019, 01:54:46 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/6KDs1Li.jpg)
Title: Re: Combat sports (MMA, boxing, etc) thread
Post by: Momo on June 02, 2019, 02:36:32 AM
AJ :rejoice
Gus :fbm
Title: Re: Combat sports (MMA, boxing, etc) thread
Post by: Momo on July 15, 2019, 02:15:52 PM
frick :fbm
Title: Re: Combat sports (MMA, boxing, etc) thread
Post by: ToxicAdam on July 23, 2019, 02:02:57 PM
A Russian junior welterweight died from injuries he suffered during a televised fight (ESPN).

Quote
Junior welterweight Maxim Dadashev died Tuesday morning as a result of brain injuries suffered during an 11th-round knockout loss to Subriel Matias on Friday night at the MGM National Harbor in Oxon Hill, Maryland. Dadashev was 28.

I never heard of the guy, but reading his story made me sad. He started boxing when he was 10 and racked up 300 amateur fights (going 280-20). He finished top 3 in the Russian national tournament for three years in a row. He moved to the US shortly after and began training with Top Rank. He went 13-0 with 11 KO's as a pro and was in-line to get a title match if he won this last match.

But he was pretty thoroughly beaten by Matias on Friday, was immediately hospitalized after the match and died soon after. To be so close to your dreams and then to fall short and die in the process. Ouch.

Title: Re: Combat sports (MMA, boxing, etc) thread
Post by: team filler on July 23, 2019, 02:18:04 PM
 :-\
Title: Re: Combat sports (MMA, boxing, etc) thread
Post by: Momo on August 18, 2019, 02:08:18 AM
Got all my picks wrong Lmao

https://youtu.be/_hXs1RptCqw
Title: Re: Combat sports (MMA, boxing, etc) thread
Post by: Tripon on April 24, 2020, 03:03:50 PM
https://twitter.com/arielhelwani/status/1253752528057106441
Title: Re: Combat sports (MMA, boxing, etc) thread
Post by: nachobro on April 24, 2020, 04:41:01 PM
https://twitter.com/bokamotoespn/status/1253758045475074048

:rejoice
Title: Re: Combat sports (MMA, boxing, etc) thread
Post by: Momo on April 24, 2020, 06:15:54 PM
Fuck Tony vs Gaethje, fuck it up it's stupid ass
Title: Re: Combat sports (MMA, boxing, etc) thread
Post by: Tripon on May 08, 2020, 10:30:30 PM
https://twitter.com/arielhelwani/status/1258943537007263744
https://twitter.com/IKFriedman/status/1258948803094347776
https://twitter.com/arielhelwani/status/1258967129229008896
Title: Re: Combat sports (MMA, boxing, etc) thread
Post by: nachobro on May 09, 2020, 11:24:11 AM
Dana is currently ignoring all calls from Disney/ESPN hq :lol
Title: Re: Combat sports (MMA, boxing, etc) thread
Post by: Pissy F Benny on May 09, 2020, 11:39:06 AM
he looks so fucking terrible that its come back around to being a strong as fuck look :rejoice
Title: Re: Combat sports (MMA, boxing, etc) thread
Post by: nachobro on May 09, 2020, 05:46:24 PM
https://youtu.be/Yrj-m1rQB34

goddamn chael hitting the adderall hard in quarantine
Title: Re: Combat sports (MMA, boxing, etc) thread
Post by: Pissy F Benny on May 09, 2020, 09:02:04 PM
https://twitter.com/jedigoodman/status/1259273182541824001

:tocry
Title: Re: Combat sports (MMA, boxing, etc) thread
Post by: nachobro on May 09, 2020, 11:34:32 PM
francis lmao

https://twitter.com/Pat_Egan/status/1259326009431777280
Title: Re: Combat sports (MMA, boxing, etc) thread
Post by: Tripon on May 09, 2020, 11:37:50 PM
francis lmao

https://twitter.com/Pat_Egan/status/1259326009431777280
https://twitter.com/slavisa_janjic/status/1259325907686350849
Title: Re: Combat sports (MMA, boxing, etc) thread
Post by: Tripon on May 10, 2020, 01:03:30 AM
You don't have to worry about Fugerson vs. Khabib no more.
Title: Re: Combat sports (MMA, boxing, etc) thread
Post by: nachobro on May 10, 2020, 11:52:07 AM
that ppv fucking sucked lmao
Title: Re: Combat sports (MMA, boxing, etc) thread
Post by: Tripon on May 13, 2020, 09:11:14 PM
Apparently, there's another UFC fight night tonight?

Title: Re: Combat sports (MMA, boxing, etc) thread
Post by: nachobro on May 16, 2020, 11:16:59 AM
yep, solid card too

(https://i.imgur.com/2f2irdr.png)
Title: Re: Combat sports (MMA, boxing, etc) thread
Post by: ToxicAdam on July 11, 2020, 11:46:15 PM
Masvidal is on tonight, anyone else watching?

Title: Re: Combat sports (MMA, boxing, etc) thread
Post by: El Babua on July 12, 2020, 03:02:27 AM
Disappointing ass event.

Masvidal got mauled. Had no answers once Usman got his wrestling going. Usman also has a toe fetish apparently.
Title: Re: Combat sports (MMA, boxing, etc) thread
Post by: Potato on July 11, 2021, 11:35:43 PM
This thread still alive?

How 'bout that Conor McGregor fight then?


Also, how about this legend?


https://youtu.be/a4qt2DVqkxQ
Title: Re: Combat sports (MMA, boxing, etc) thread
Post by: Snoopycat_ on July 13, 2021, 06:27:17 AM
McGregor should go fight TikTokers or New Jersey housewives. I actually wouldn't be surprised if he fought Cerrone again.
Title: Re: Combat sports (MMA, boxing, etc) thread
Post by: Pissy F Benny on July 13, 2021, 06:44:47 AM
he'll get dropped by Jake Paul in his next fight :heh
Title: Re: Combat sports (MMA, boxing, etc) thread
Post by: Snoopycat_ on July 13, 2021, 07:22:36 AM
Ronda Rousey had more dignity

 :lol