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Title: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on December 19, 2006, 09:50:26 PM
I created a new character today in WoW. He's a warrior dwarf and his name is Goinio.

The game is pretty interesting. I played for more than an hour, completed a few quests, and got up to level 5. After one long quest (I had to murder 15 trolls) I was given different choices for my reward. I chose this badass hammer, but when I tried to use it I realized IT REQUIRES TWO HANDS. I can only use one I quess. Oh well. I'll keep it and use it when I can.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: cubicle47b on December 19, 2006, 10:56:16 PM
Good story.  Would read again.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Van Cruncheon on December 19, 2006, 10:58:36 PM
this adventure thrills me deeply
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Flannel Boy on December 19, 2006, 11:13:39 PM
I can barely wait for the next update. I said WoW!
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on December 20, 2006, 12:14:09 PM
Last night Goinio's fame grew. I'm now level 7 and I also learned some cool new moves including Thunder Clap and this one move where I can stab someone and cause them to bleed for 10 seconds.

The quests are getting much more interesting. At first it was just kill x amount of baddies, but last night I did some kickass stuff. I entered an ice cave, my mission to kill the great ice troll leader and take the journal he stole from its rightful owner.

Yet when I got inside I realized it was filled with trolls, many in bunches. So what I'd do is jump from a higher area into a group of three trolls. Then I'd use Thunder Clap to stun them all; after that I'd Bleed two of them, and as they rapidly lost health I'd start fighting the other troll. By the time he was dead the other two would be nearly dead, so all I had to do was hit them a couple times.

It's not hard to see why some get too into this game. Many times I'll want to do somethng else (LIKE SLEEP) but I'll look at my XP bar and see I'm 1/4 away from another level. So I'll fight baddies until I gain a level, THEN run all the way to the dwarf hideout and see if I can learn any new skills.

This game is far more interesting than Guild Wars, which I tried for a few hours and then forgot about.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Disposable White Guy on December 20, 2006, 12:17:01 PM
I TRIED TO WARN YOU THERES NO TURNING BACK NOW ITS TOO LATE FOR ME SON TELL YOUR SISTER YOU WERE RIGHT ABOUT ME
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on December 20, 2006, 12:24:44 PM
NO I CAN CHANGE

I'm hoping that once my trial is up I won't have the urge to buy the game. But...

By the time my trial ends I'll have a bunch of Christmas money...god damn what a coincidence. I just thought about that :lol :(
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: cubicle47b on December 20, 2006, 12:53:13 PM
You get new abilities every even numbered level.  Enjoy your addiction.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on December 20, 2006, 01:15:53 PM
At level 10 you start getting talent points every level lol.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Disposable White Guy on December 20, 2006, 01:21:55 PM
OH HEY ME AGAIN DONT FORGET THAT WARRIORS ARE REALLY GEAR DEPENDANT SO HAVE FUN ALWAYS UPGRADING SHIT LOL FORCE LIGHTNING
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on December 20, 2006, 01:23:33 PM
Every even level? Hm.

Also I have a question about the battle system: is there anything else to fighting than just pointing at an enemy and walking up to it? I pushed the left/right buttons on my mouse at the same time and it seemed like Goinio did a thrust move or something.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: cubicle47b on December 20, 2006, 02:35:10 PM
There are no button combo attack moves.  I have no idea what you mean by thrust move.  Maybe heroic strike, I don't know.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: GilloD on December 20, 2006, 03:03:27 PM
Every even level? Hm.

Also I have a question about the battle system: is there anything else to fighting than just pointing at an enemy and walking up to it? I pushed the left/right buttons on my mouse at the same time and it seemed like Goinio did a thrust move or something.

At level 31, clicking the Left Mouse Button three times in a row and hitting "W" or "Up" will do a Heroic Combo, allowing you to use any of your skills for free for 10 seconds. Better start leveling!
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Disposable White Guy on December 20, 2006, 03:58:01 PM
Warriors get the Charge ability at....level 6 or something, which is exactly what it sounds like.  Pretty much every class has a signature "opener" ability, except for Shaman and Paladins who just run up to shit and clobber away.  Things get more interesting when you get more abilities/spells to play around with.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on December 20, 2006, 03:59:40 PM
Once you figure out where the AH is you'll be spending some time looking at the boards haha.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Disposable White Guy on December 20, 2006, 04:08:06 PM
MORE LIKE WAIT UNTIL YOU SEE ALL THE HAWT NELF CHIX DANCIN IN IF YOULL BE STARIN AT TITS
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: whiteACID on December 20, 2006, 04:08:40 PM
Should have rolled a mage man.
What server are you on?
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on December 20, 2006, 04:11:33 PM
PD will be fappin at AH
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Disposable White Guy on December 20, 2006, 04:13:19 PM
(http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/contests/05-06-09/images/lifesize-ne.jpg)
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: CajoleJuice on December 20, 2006, 04:45:49 PM
Fuck WoW
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: cubicle47b on December 20, 2006, 04:58:53 PM
Oh man, I wonder what Goinio is doing right now.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on December 20, 2006, 05:06:58 PM
Probably sitting in AH
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on December 21, 2006, 12:04:13 AM
DAMN

Goinio died twice today. This was the first time I experienced death in this game, and it was quite interesting. The idea of turning into a spirit and having to find your body is rather cool. I'll admit it was very annoying the first time, and it took me awhile to find my body. The second time was much faster.

The first time I died was truly a sad affair. I found this level 7 bear and decided to fight it. Once I had its health down a good bit this big ice tiger jumped out of nowhere and started raping me from behind. I used THUNDER CLAP to hit them both at the same time, but by the time I killed the bear I was dead as well.

I'm still level 7 because I didn't get to play as much as I wanted to; had company a few hours ago, and me and my dad fixed the furnace in the house. I'm going to try to get to level 10 before I get to bed.


So far the only major beef I have with the game is the map. It's not very easy to read when compared to the one in Guild Wars. Having a sense of North/South/West/East obviously helps, but I wish it was easier to just glance at the map and no what town/area you're heading towards
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on December 21, 2006, 12:12:12 AM
well there's arrows on the sides of the map when youre near a town, there's a map hotkey to the full map, there's roadsigns, you can also zoom out on the mini-map if you need to.

Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on December 21, 2006, 12:29:34 AM
Should have rolled a mage man.
What server are you on?

Ravenholdt?
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Shuri on December 21, 2006, 01:01:41 AM
i wanna see a pic of Goignio  :-*
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on December 21, 2006, 02:36:12 AM
How do I take pics?
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: etiolate on December 21, 2006, 02:38:16 AM
screenshots? print screen key

If theres a group of forumers starting up new in wow I might go back for a bit. I need something to do during break.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: FlameOfCallandor on December 21, 2006, 02:47:34 AM
alliance is for pussies and fegs
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: rocketman on December 21, 2006, 03:36:12 AM
alliance is for pussies and fegs
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on December 21, 2006, 03:41:15 AM
(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e86/PhoenixDark1/GOINIO.jpg)
A MODEST BADASS

Notice the poor quality of the screen; the game looks really good on my computer but for some reason the screen came out rather MEH. But Goinio's awesome-ness prevails. Although I have very little equitment. I had some snow boots and after about an hour I realized their durability was depleted, so I bought some new kickass ones. My defense is like 263 now. OMG

Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on December 21, 2006, 04:44:02 AM
You wanna get level 10 dude, thats when talents kick in :D
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on December 21, 2006, 05:25:39 AM
OMG

It's past 5 in the morning and I just stopped playing. Wow. I haven't played a game this far into the night in ages. Maybe since Baldur's Gate Dark Alliance (on the day before Christmas Eve 2004 lol). I'm too tired to go over everything I did, but I joined a group, which allowed me to finish off my quests much faster (and without dying).

I expected to prefer just soloing through the game, but playing with other people opened up a lot of opportunities. God damn...

Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: bork on December 21, 2006, 07:22:22 AM

I expected to prefer just soloing through the game, but playing with other people opened up a lot of opportunities. God damn...



I don't give a lick about these kinds of games, but seriously...what is the point of playing a MASSIVELY MULTIPLAYER ONLINE role-playing game by yourself?
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: whiteACID on December 21, 2006, 07:34:19 AM
I had some snow boots and after about an hour I realized their durability was depleted, so I bought some new kickass ones. My defense is like 263 now. OMG
When the durability of your equipment goes down you get it repaired...you don't have to buy new ones.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Disposable White Guy on December 21, 2006, 10:20:12 AM
I wish Ravenholdt was in my PVP battlegroup :( I could help you quit.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on December 21, 2006, 10:30:50 AM

I expected to prefer just soloing through the game, but playing with other people opened up a lot of opportunities. God damn...



I don't give a lick about these kinds of games, but seriously...what is the point of playing a MASSIVELY MULTIPLAYER ONLINE role-playing game by yourself?

Ive almost entirely solo'ed two level 60s. Its not an insane idea considering every day im able to leave my house and do many things without finding someone to do it with. Most people drag down my quest grind anyway with wanting to 'look around' and talk too much or wanna become friends over the internet.

Lame.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: whiteACID on December 21, 2006, 10:39:49 AM
So JANUARY 16TH
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on December 21, 2006, 10:53:31 AM
FOR REALZ THIS TIME
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Prost on December 21, 2006, 12:12:08 PM

I expected to prefer just soloing through the game, but playing with other people opened up a lot of opportunities. God damn...



I don't give a lick about these kinds of games, but seriously...what is the point of playing a MASSIVELY MULTIPLAYER ONLINE role-playing game by yourself?
Because most of the other people who play just plain suck, so you don't have to deal with distinguished mentally-challenged fellows if you just level on your own through the earlier levels....

then when you hit 60 you get to deal with the people who have leveled MULTIPLE 60s................. AND STILL SUCK!
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on December 21, 2006, 01:00:59 PM

I expected to prefer just soloing through the game, but playing with other people opened up a lot of opportunities. God damn...



I don't give a lick about these kinds of games, but seriously...what is the point of playing a MASSIVELY MULTIPLAYER ONLINE role-playing game by yourself?

Ive almost entirely solo'ed two level 60s. Its not an insane idea considering every day im able to leave my house and do many things without finding someone to do it with. Most people drag down my quest grind anyway with wanting to 'look around' and talk too much or wanna become friends over the internet.

Lame.

True. Last night I was having some trouble against these level 9-10 trolls and this guy came up and proposed that we work together in a group. So three of us started kicking ass. It was helpful at first because many of my quests last night dealt with killing x amount of trolls or gnomes or taking items from them. But all through this they'd run off at various times for stupid things. Like one guy would always run up and mountain and then jump off and say "sry thought I saw a tear of ore". WTF? How could anyone see something like that on the top of a mountain >:(

When I need help for quests I'm going to play more with other people. When I'm doing simple fetch quests or leveling up, I'll solo. Leveling up with other players seemed rather slow. When I kill an enemy on my own I get around 60xp, but in a three man group I wound up getting around 29xp for each kill, if that. But we cleared out an entire troll cave full of enemies, which was a lot of fun and got me alot of xp when all was said and done.

I didn't get to level 9 last night, despite playing for around 4 or 5 hours. I was running around so much lol, and I also died two more times. Now that I'm level 9 and have a shitload of defense I doubt I'll die as much; plus I bought a new axe which is much better than my old one
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: whiteACID on December 21, 2006, 01:14:47 PM
But all through this they'd run off at various times for stupid things. Like one guy would always run up and mountain and then jump off and say "sry thought I saw a tear of ore". WTF? How could anyone see something like that on the top of a mountain >:(

when you are tracking herbs or ore, you'll see a little yellow blip on your minimap to show the location of them. He probably saw that and tried to run up the mountain to get it.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on December 21, 2006, 02:03:37 PM
most PUGs you get are gonna suck lol.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on December 21, 2006, 02:17:06 PM
I should be level 10 by the end of the day. Or...around 3 in the morning. Christmas break FTW

After Christmas...I might seriously consider buying this game. I'll have the money, and I plan on getting a job for the winter semester anyway...

Or I could just get FFV or a similar RPG and play through that.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on December 21, 2006, 02:21:11 PM
If you wanna play an MMORPG at all this is the one to saddle up to, honestly. Haters can bark clever "people still play that" quips, but the game does have like three times the subscribers of anything else out there.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on December 21, 2006, 02:24:57 PM
My only concern is with myself and my binge mentality. A lot of times I'll get something and just play/watch/eat/etc it for a long period of time, and then drop it. This happens most with music. For instance, I'll listen to say The Beatles for a month straight, then get tired of them and move to something else. Basically the only game I play religiously is Wolfenstein ET, in part because I'm in a clan.

I'm thinking that once I buy the game and start reading the game manuals (something I LOVE to do lol) I'll get more excited about the game, even more so than I am now. Everyday I learn something new about the game, and with the manuals I could get better faster. Plus of course the WoW boards
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: whiteACID on December 21, 2006, 02:30:50 PM
I'm telling you man, once the Burning Crusade comes out I'm creating a new character on a fresh server. We should play togethor.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on December 21, 2006, 02:34:29 PM
Well if you think it'll become addictive you might not wanna, your choice.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on December 21, 2006, 02:37:33 PM
I don't think it'll be addictive, I just don't want to play it like mad for a month and then grow tired of it.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: etiolate on December 21, 2006, 06:13:15 PM
My only concern is with myself and my binge mentality. A lot of times I'll get something and just play/watch/eat/etc it for a long period of time, and then drop it. This happens most with music. For instance, I'll listen to say The Beatles for a month straight, then get tired of them and move to something else. Basically the only game I play religiously is Wolfenstein ET, in part because I'm in a clan.

I'm thinking that once I buy the game and start reading the game manuals (something I LOVE to do lol) I'll get more excited about the game, even more so than I am now. Everyday I learn something new about the game, and with the manuals I could get better faster. Plus of course the WoW boards

You don't want to get addicted.  I think one would get bored of it though.  I didn't mind the first 20 levels, but once you start really grinding then it becomes tiresome. Teh game alwasy felt more like work than fun.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on December 21, 2006, 06:42:35 PM
I got to level 10 today after some pretty cool questing. Although the quests were more of the same in terms of "kill x amount of baddies" or "take x to y", it felt new because of some of the new skills and weapons I got. Last night I got this kickass axe and I was able to use it today; looks like I don't have to worry about being killed by level 10 trolls/bears anymore lol.

The last quest I did required me to take a letter to the king in IRONFORGE. When I turned up the mountain and saw the entrance to the place I was blown away

(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e86/PhoenixDark1/Ironforge.jpg)
 :o

Pretty badass. The city is so fucking huge. I didn't have much time to look around, but what I saw was killer. Later tonight I plan on fully exploring the place and seeing what everything has to offer. I noticed many profession trainers in there. Maybe I'll choose one tonight.

When I turned level 10 I was given the ability to learn one of three talents. I chose Improved Rend, which now increases the bleed damage done by Rend by 25%. It's a great thing to do when you're fighting two enemies: you Rend one of them and then start fighting the other; by the time you're down with him the other enemy has bleed out a lot of HP.

OMG
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Disposable White Guy on December 21, 2006, 09:22:43 PM
I don't think it'll be addictive, I just don't want to play it like mad for a month and then grow tired of it.

What you should do is create an account via game cards.  That way, when you run out of time at 4 in the morning and all of the stores that carry game cards are closed, you have to turn it off cold turkey.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on December 21, 2006, 10:26:41 PM
I don't think it'll be addictive, I just don't want to play it like mad for a month and then grow tired of it.

What you should do is create an account via game cards.  That way, when you run out of time at 4 in the morning and all of the stores that carry game cards are closed, you have to turn it off cold turkey.

I plan on getting those 60 day game cards from Gamestop if I buy the game.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: whiteACID on December 22, 2006, 10:18:52 AM
hehe, I made a character on your server PD
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: cubicle47b on December 22, 2006, 10:47:42 AM
I may do that too since I have time to kill before the expansion.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: whiteACID on December 22, 2006, 10:56:32 AM
Do it now! and tell me the name
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: cubicle47b on December 22, 2006, 11:40:42 AM
I'm at work right now.  If I do this it'll be tonight or tomorrow afternoon.  Maybe a mage named Pent.  I'll let you know.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: whiteACID on December 22, 2006, 12:23:05 PM
I made a mage named Zinla on his server.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: cubicle47b on December 22, 2006, 12:46:22 PM
Maybe I'll make a priest then.  I'd like to make a druid but fuck night elves.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on December 22, 2006, 12:49:38 PM
PD: you'll wanna pick a talent tree to follow so you can focus and get the higher point value talents.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: whiteACID on December 22, 2006, 12:55:24 PM
I would pick fury for leveling
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on December 22, 2006, 01:06:42 PM
Last night was a blast. I explored Ironforge some more and talked to as many people as possible. After entering this huge building in the War Room-esque part of the city I found this military table surrounded by all these badasses. I talked to one and he took a look at me and said I was too much of a sissyboy warrior to join in on their talk. In order to prove myself he told me to leave Ironforge and journey deep to the steps of the mountain and challenge a certain troll; "bring me his head, and then I will know you're AWESOME" he said (well not really, but that's the King James translation).

So after awhile I finally found the troll and fought him. He kept using this spell that lowered my armor by like 300, but I was able to kill him. I got his head and started looting his hut. During this I decided to go to the back of the hut and look around; nothing was there, so I walked back to the front of the hut, intending to return to Ironforge. But then WTF I saw he had respawned, and I fought him again and killed him.

At that point I had an idea. Both times I killed him I got 100XP and a bunch of copper. So I went down the mountain a bit, waited for him to respawn, and then ran up to kill him again. Once again I got 100XP and a bunch of gold. I did this countless amounts of time, and then I started getting very strong armor, a powerful two handed hammer (which I STILL can't use), some swords I can't use, and a fucking GUN. OMG.

After doing this tons of times and getting to level 11 (I haven't spent this talent point yet) I returned to Ironforge with the troll's head. The warrior dude told me that I now deserved a more kickass weapon, so he sent me to the blacksmith. But of course I have to do a quest for him before I can get the weapon.

Instead of going on the quest at that time I decided to pick a profession: blacksmith. GOINIO THE SMITTY. Basically I chose this after visiting some of the shops in Ironforge and seeing how fucking expensive all the good stuff was. I figure as a blacksmith I'll be able to make some of my own equitment and also sell much of it for money so I can buy more goodies. Now I just need to find a place where I can get the ingrediants needed for the job: I bought all the tools, but now I need stuff like iron bricks, which I can't find anywhere.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: whiteACID on December 22, 2006, 01:31:46 PM
If you're going to go blacksmith get mining too. You can mind your own ore and turn it into the bricks.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on December 22, 2006, 01:44:22 PM
If you're going to go blacksmith get mining too. You can mind your own ore and turn it into the bricks.

Really? That's a good idea. I always see places you can mine in the caves
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: tale on December 22, 2006, 02:00:25 PM
I love this thread.

I wish I could wipe my memory of WoW and play it all over again.  It's such an awesome game - just the first 10 levels have so many cool moments.

* Sniff * PD, please keep up your stories - it's great.

I think I might just "roll a toon" (<3 ya, Drinky) on Ravenholdt too.  Maybe a Warlock or Druid.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: cubicle47b on December 22, 2006, 03:28:22 PM
I created a dwarf priest called Gloitre and added Phoenix/Redwood to my friends list.  I have to go back to work, though.  Will play later.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on December 22, 2006, 06:49:26 PM
Does anyone know if I'll be able to transfer my character from the free trial once I buy the game? I don't want to have to start all over again

EDIT:
Quote
You may upgrade your account at any time to a
full version by purchasing a retail copy of
the game at most software and video
game retailers. When you upgrade,
all trial restrictions are removed,
and you are free to explore the
full depths of this amazing
online world.
https://signup.worldofwarcraft.com/trial/QS5.htm

That's good to know
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: etiolate on December 22, 2006, 08:52:26 PM
Maybe I'll make a priest then.  I'd like to make a druid but fuck night elves.

druid m fun
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on December 23, 2006, 03:53:59 AM
Wow today was a blur. I played for a few hours during the afternoon, during which I accomplished some things. I started by taking whiteAcid's advice and learning the mining profession. In no time I crafted my first chain mail; this is a pretty good way to earn money.

After this I took on the quest given to me by the blacksmith: apparently his mentor was killed by jealous dwarves, and since he was too pussy to avenge him he wanted me to do the deed. It took me awhile to find the mentor's shop, and when I did I saw that it was filled with dwarves. I avenged the mentor and headed back to Ironforge; once there I was given this kickass axe which could be used with one hand. That  allowed me to use a shield also.

With my newfound wealth and weapons I decided to level up a bit in a cave troll. Interestingly cubicle47b was able to talk to me, although I never saw him in the game; he said he's still in the earler areas. Anyway while I was in the cave I joined a group and started leveling. Due to some stupid mistakes we wound up going too far into the cave and we both died. When I returned to my body I noticed it was surrounded by trolls. Once I revived myself I was quickly killed again. This happen a couple more times before I could get out the cave alive, and it sucked. Once your spirit returns to your body you have like half of your health, which isn't much help when you're surrounded by enemies who have ranged attacks.

So today I only did one quest; hell I haven't accepted any new ones since the blacksmith one. Tomorrow I plan on going on more quests and leveling up. I'm level 13
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: etiolate on December 23, 2006, 04:12:41 AM
I think I'll re-up and join you guys.  I'm just deciding between a druid and a paladin. I like druids, but I go NE I'll have to trek across the map to where you guys are.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: etiolate on December 23, 2006, 07:56:13 AM
Alright, I just made a Druid named Emptybox (lol) even though I didn't want to do the traveling.  I'm level 6 right now. You can message me if you want.

PS: Did I see that right? Is this a RP server??
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: cubicle47b on December 23, 2006, 10:30:16 AM
I died a couple times in the trogg cave SE of Ironforge.  I was invited into a group and decided to accept only to find out traveling in a PUG as a priest is more dangerous than going solo if you actually heal people because the fuckers will all kill one mob and watch all the others they managed to pull kill you because of healing aggro.  After the first respawn death I decided to spirit rez because it's basically impossible unless you wait for a group to come through and wipe out half room.  I should have made a paladin instead.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on December 23, 2006, 02:35:11 PM
You can use fade, and there's talents to reduce threats. You also have PW Shield. You should be able to find ways to survive. I've dealt with some PRETTY stupid PUGs in the stockades so far and have only died maybe once because they didnt know how to pull aggro off me. Fade works really well, the cooldown requires you know when to fire it off tho.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: cubicle47b on December 23, 2006, 03:55:18 PM
It's not that they didn't know how to pull aggro off me, it's that they didn't try.  They just kind of stood around.  I managed to survive a good 30 seconds between PW Shield, Renew, and a few other things (use of ledges).
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on December 23, 2006, 04:15:12 PM
when they start doing that threaten to leave.

PUG tend to forget exactly why Priests do for them, wanna teach em a lesson? Deal with it halfway then hearth out. It wont hurt your rep. Almost everyone who plays wow has the attention span of a gnat anyway.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: cubicle47b on December 23, 2006, 04:44:35 PM
If it was an instance run I wouldn't have put up with it and I did leave the group immediately after that happened.  It's just not a hopeful sign and leveling is already becoming a real pain in the ass.  I'm trying out a pally right now and liking it so far so I'll probably run with that.  At least until the Burning Crusade comes out and I switch back to my warlock main (unless my guild falls apart *crosses fingers*).
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on December 23, 2006, 06:24:48 PM
What level are you? Im not shadow spec despite the correct suggestion TO be shadowspec, but even spirit tap + heavy wand usage makes it easy to grind when I need to and my spells still pack a pretty good whallop for big fights. Im big on solo-quest grinding.

The only hitch I hit was level 28-30 when quests got a little dry. Had to grind some Seletal Wardens n crap with rest exp and I hit 30 and 31 I hit with some questing in the wetlands. The key to quest grinding is straddling ironforge/stormwind trees.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: whiteACID on December 25, 2006, 10:40:25 AM
Can't believe I made a character to play with PD and I haven't seen him online once.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: FlameOfCallandor on December 25, 2006, 11:00:43 AM
Thats what you get for making an allience character.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on December 25, 2006, 11:59:56 AM
Doesnt matter much anymore. Dumb Alliance players will flock the Horde at expansion for the stupid belfs, and the good Horde players will run to alliance to either kill belfs or just escape them.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Disposable White Guy on December 25, 2006, 07:14:57 PM
Thats what you get for making an allience character.

A what character?
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on December 26, 2006, 01:29:30 AM
Can't believe I made a character to play with PD and I haven't seen him online once.

Shut up fool!

My trial ran out, and I've been gone for Christmas. I'm buying the game with my Christmas monies
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: cubicle47b on December 26, 2006, 12:11:59 PM
I was only level 10 or 11 on my priest.  I switched to a paladin and I'm loving it so far.  Being able to solo without having to rely heavily on mana and being able to heal, tank, or dps within a group is great.

I grouped with a really good feral druid last night and that combo is ridiculous.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on December 26, 2006, 04:22:30 PM
I played with whiteAcid last night for a bit, but I was lagging terribly. Eventually she got off and I decided to tackle some quests.

I found a great place to level grind against these high level troggs. The good thing about fighting them instead of the basic bears/cats/etc is that troggs drop a LOT of money. When I entered the area I had very little money; in fact I couldn't afford the First Aid power when whiteAcid tried to get me to learn it. By the time I was done for the night I had around 30 pieces of silver (1 silver=100 copper). Dammnn.

And as I anticipated, being a blacksmith/miner allows me to sell many of the items I make for lots of money. But I seemed to get a lot of that money from finding various weapons I couldn't use, which confuses me. As a warrior I'm supposed to be able to use most weapons right? But right now I still can't use two handed swords or staffs; I actually sold two very powerful staffs last night. When I look at my weapon propertites I saw I can use axes, maces, and similar weapons. I don't see any option to learn how to use swords. :-\

Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: cubicle47b on December 26, 2006, 04:33:29 PM
You have to go to a weapons trainer and buy the ability to use those weapons just like you buy warrior abilities.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: whiteACID on December 26, 2006, 08:12:23 PM
You can use everything I think.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: tale on December 27, 2006, 12:48:09 AM
You can use everything I think.

... after you see a weapons trainer and train in that class of weapon (2h Axes, 1h Swords, Polearms etc.).

Weapons sell to vendors for more than armor does - so if you need cash and are leveling up your Blacksmithing, go for weapons over armor.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on December 27, 2006, 01:18:06 AM
My acount ran out. I plan on buying the game tomorrow, along with some other games.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Yeti on December 27, 2006, 04:04:34 AM
Waiting to find out what happens to Goinio is as bad as waiting to find out what happens in the next Harry Potter book.  :-\
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: whiteACID on December 28, 2006, 09:59:08 AM
Did you pick up the game yet PD?
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: cubicle47b on December 28, 2006, 10:25:46 AM
PD was online last night.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: whiteACID on December 28, 2006, 10:39:22 AM
oh ok, I was for a minute but I didn't see him.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on December 28, 2006, 02:13:53 PM
I played for a couple hours last night, maybe more.

I've been leveling against some high level troggs lately instead of taking quests. Last night did a lot of leveling in a cave too. I started a party with this level 8 gnome (bad idea). At first it was working very well, and I was close to getting to level 14. But then we both jumped off this cliff further into the cave and landed right in the middle of a fucking trogg orgy. Like 10 troggs surrounded us. While they attacked him I decided to try to run away (Goinio is a bitch) but I killed in the process. At the graveyard the gnome told me to fuck off and quit the party :lol

I journeyed back to the cave, found my body, and revived in time for more ass kicking. By the time I got out of the cave I was level 14 and had a TON of money.

So I decided to go sell some weapons to a trader in the nearby dwarve camp, but as I talked to him the game disconnected. I reconnected and found that I was in the cave instead of in the dwarve camp. And as if it was all a big joke I noticed I was surrounded once again by 10 troggs. I got killed again lol. Hm that's the first time the game has disconnected.

I've been in the same area (Don Morogh, near Khagahas and Ironforce moutain) for awhile now, and I noticed there are few quests left in the area. Tonight I plan on leaving that area and going somewhere else.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: whiteACID on December 28, 2006, 02:17:22 PM
You're level 14, go to Westfall.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on December 28, 2006, 02:31:24 PM
Alright.

Before I do I might go back to Ironforge and learn some new weapon abilities. The ones that were offered (gun, dagger) aren't interesting to me, but I'm guessing I have to learn them first before getting the sword option.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: rocketman on December 28, 2006, 02:33:50 PM
PD, want a level 60 rogue? I'm selling. 100 bucks.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: whiteACID on December 28, 2006, 02:35:59 PM
Alright.

Before I do I might go back to Ironforge and learn some new weapon abilities. The ones that were offered (gun, dagger) aren't interesting to me, but I'm guessing I have to learn them first before getting the sword option.
Just learn all of your weapon abilities.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on December 28, 2006, 02:37:30 PM
PD, want a level 60 rogue? I'm selling. 100 bucks.

Do you think I'm stupid?
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: cubicle47b on December 28, 2006, 02:43:28 PM
Quote
but I'm guessing I have to learn them first before getting the sword option.

No, weapon trainers don't have the ability to train you in every weapon.  Try the trainer in Stormwind.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: rocketman on December 28, 2006, 02:48:53 PM
PD, want a level 60 rogue? I'm selling. 100 bucks.

Do you think I'm stupid?

What the fuck are you talking about, son? I don't want my rogue anymore, and I'm selling it. 100 bucks.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: whiteACID on December 28, 2006, 02:52:15 PM
PD, want a level 60 rogue? I'm selling. 100 bucks.

Do you think I'm stupid?

What the fuck are you talking about, son? I don't want my rogue anymore, and I'm selling it. 100 bucks.
What race?
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on December 28, 2006, 03:04:03 PM
PD, want a level 60 rogue? I'm selling. 100 bucks.

Do you think I'm stupid?

What the fuck are you talking about, son? I don't want my rogue anymore, and I'm selling it. 100 bucks.

I'm not buying a fucking digital character for $100. Anyone who does it distinguished mentally-challenged.

Get out of my thread  >:(
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: rocketman on December 28, 2006, 03:09:28 PM
PD, want a level 60 rogue? I'm selling. 100 bucks.

Do you think I'm stupid?

What the fuck are you talking about, son? I don't want my rogue anymore, and I'm selling it. 100 bucks.
What race?

Undead.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: rocketman on December 28, 2006, 03:10:28 PM
PD, want a level 60 rogue? I'm selling. 100 bucks.

Do you think I'm stupid?

What the fuck are you talking about, son? I don't want my rogue anymore, and I'm selling it. 100 bucks.

I'm not buying a fucking digital character for $100. Anyone who does it distinguished mentally-challenged.

Get out of my thread  >:(

You better change your tone with me, boy.

You can spend 100 dollars to get a 'fucking digital character' and save your ass the 30 FULL days played it will take you to level to 60.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: whiteACID on December 28, 2006, 03:55:02 PM
undead are the best for pvp
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on December 28, 2006, 04:24:35 PM
I'd rather get to lv60 by my own accord thank you very much. Besides what's the fun at started with a lv60 character?
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Yeti on December 28, 2006, 06:49:30 PM
Yeah, it would be like buying a Final Fantasy that starts at the last boss of the game.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: cubicle47b on December 28, 2006, 07:06:04 PM
There's nothing like warping straight to the raid or die part of a MMORPG without ever having developed any skills.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: rocketman on December 28, 2006, 07:14:20 PM
undead are the best for pvp

orc, for stun resist. makes a big difference.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: rocketman on December 28, 2006, 07:14:55 PM
Yeah, it would be like buying a Final Fantasy that starts at the last boss of the game.

Uh, no. You're an idiot.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on December 29, 2006, 12:37:37 AM
NO YOU ARE
 :punch
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on December 29, 2006, 02:08:23 AM
Jesus fucking Christ this fucking lag

Every fucking time I try to play late at night I get crippling lag. It's so bad I can't do anything. Everything works fine for an hour an a half, but once it get's around 1:30-2am things to go hell. I don't have anything else running either.

btw what is the "Blizzard Background Downloader"? Everytime I get off I see it downloading, yet it's always at 0%
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: etiolate on December 29, 2006, 03:46:43 AM
I think Blizzard is trying a streaming update service like ANets.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: whiteACID on December 29, 2006, 07:32:56 AM
Cubicle made a Paladin and he seems to love it. He's already 10 levels higher than us.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: cubicle47b on December 29, 2006, 11:35:16 AM
Human males look stupid.  I'm a total mangina.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: whiteACID on December 29, 2006, 11:40:00 AM
Human males look stupid.  I'm a total mangina.
They do look stupid, short and stocky with huge shoulders.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on December 29, 2006, 02:24:45 PM
Last night I died at least 12 times :lol :(

I finally left the snowy areas and journeyed south, where I found this South Pass tunnel that led me to Loch Modan. TREES. GRASS. JUNGLE. Everything looks so beautiful, and perhaps this brings me back to my fascination with the game: everytime I get tired of something I discover something else that's even more interesting.

I talked to a mountainer who gave me a quest that he said would require more than one person to finish. Instead of doing it right away I decided to explore the area and meet some new people. Suprisingly I found a lot of people who I had seen around the snowy environments for a last couple weeks. Eventually I was able to start a group and do a couple kill quests. The enemies in this area and very tough and they give a lot of XP. This was made easier for me at first because I grouped with a dwarve priest. We died a couple times together but I thought nothing of it.

Later in the night I accepted some more kill quests and expected them to be just as easy. I had to kill 10 Shamans and 10 uber troggs. My WCIII intelligence helped me remember that Shamans use Bloodlust a lot, but I figured I could still kill them. I was wrong. After I finally found one I engaged it. Everything was going  well, but right when I was about to kill the Shaman it HEALED itself fully. I had like half my health and got killed. After I found my body I decided to run back to town, but these Seer Troggs surrounded me and killed me. This happen over and over again basically.

At one point I saw this Night Elve having trouble with a Shaman trogg. I jumped to the rescue and killed it right in time, at which point the Elve (female) thanked me. Since I needed to kill more I decided to follow her and her group into the Shaman cave. I helped out a bit but they never asked me to join their group. Finally I asked.

Goinio: I need to kill these Shamans but my powers are not great enough. Can I join your group?
Night Elve: *no answer*
Goinio: HARKEN TO ME
Night Elve: Oh, we're done here. Good bye. And thanks for the help
Goinio: AW SHIT!

At that point a fucking Shaman came out of NOWHERE and started raping me while the Night Elve and her entire group slowly walked away. I will never trust Night Elves again

So I died there, and then I died again after I found my body. At that point just said fuck it and decided to have my body revived; I had more than enough money to get everything repaired. I then decided to get better armor before trying to fight the Shamans again. After that I found this small gnome and we formed a group. We agreed to help each other with our quests but at that point my computer started lagging. He told me to turn the settings down so I did; the game looks ugly now (well the trees/bushes do) but it works better. I'll try to see if I can fix that.

After I helped him kill the Seers he needed for his quest I escorted him back to town where he got his reward. At that point he said "lol I have to go to bed" and left. ARRRGHHHGHAAH

Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on December 29, 2006, 02:26:05 PM
Haha, its cool youre getting into it. Ive played so much im at the point where its all mechanical, no more adventures. Just quest grind. Ive sorta taken a break till the expansion comes out tho, just got a gamecube with a buncha games so what are ya gonna do.

Also Night Elf players are some of the dumbest around.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: whiteACID on December 29, 2006, 04:28:48 PM
Stranglethorn Vale?
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: cubicle47b on December 29, 2006, 04:49:32 PM
Dustwallow Marsh, maybe.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: tale on December 29, 2006, 07:06:17 PM
I think he might mean the Wetlands.

PD - Never trust Night-Elves.  Generally the worst players are night-elves - in my personal experience. When I'm playing Horde PvP I'm always ganked by bloody Night Elf hunters  :( :( :(, and in a couple of weeks the worst players will be Blood Elves too.

The lag thing might be something to do with the servers being backed up while they are live - it's a new thing they are trying so that people can play 24/7 (the servers used to shut down every Tuesday morning for maintenance and back-up).  If you have less than a 1 gig of memory in your computer, that might be part of the lag problem too.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on December 30, 2006, 01:00:58 AM
Today was an entire debacle. I died just as much it seemed, if not more. It's clear that I'm going to either need a priest to back me up or a shit ton of potions. Ugh

I'm level 15 and I'm struggling against level 13-16 trogg shamans/seers/Bonecrushers. I can beat them one on one, but the ones I need to kill (Bonecrushers) are always in a group; I simply can't take them alone. I've begged people to help me, even going out of my way to help them finish their own quests. Alas, Goinio is now seen as the Dwarve Jesus: I save everyone but these bastards don't give a shit about me.

I formed groups with around 5 different people; in the process I helped them finish all their quests, but no one seems interested in helping me. And when they do help we get assraped due to their stupidity. I grouped with this rogue human and he just sat back and watched me die on two occassions straight :lol

Oh well. I'll try again tonight. The only good thing is that I'm gaining alot of XP
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Himu on December 30, 2006, 01:03:09 AM
PD to turn into non gamer. Mmorpg players stop buying consoles and other games. So long buddy lol
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on December 30, 2006, 01:44:03 AM
PD: yeah the fine art of pulling and learning mob aggro ranges will come in time lol.

Thats nothing tho, I was in this PUG in stockades that had the mage pulling. I mean thats cool, but the mage was pulling by INCHING TOWARDS MOBS till they ran at him then running back at the group.

*sigh*

Then they got in this big fight over who's pet aggro'ed the room opposite of the one we died in.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: cubicle47b on December 30, 2006, 03:30:03 AM
I pull using proximity aggro on my paladin..., not that I have much of a choice.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on December 30, 2006, 11:43:46 AM
PD to turn into non gamer. Mmorpg players stop buying consoles and other games. So long buddy lol

I do have around $200 in Christmas monies and haven't really thought about buying any games :lol

Well, I did want FFV but couldn't find it
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Disposable White Guy on December 30, 2006, 11:53:11 AM
What level are you up to now?  You guys should get together some night and show PD the WSG ropes.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: whiteACID on December 30, 2006, 12:22:36 PM
ya, i'm level 21. I wouldn't mind taking him at 28-29
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on December 30, 2006, 06:52:32 PM
Last night was pretty awesome. After searching for ages I finally found a kickass person to help with my quest. He was a dwarven Paladin and he was BADASS. We finished my quest and then proceded to clear out a big cave. Sadly we both got killed after about an hour of AWESOME-ness, and he signed out shortly after. Luckily I put him in my friends list.

Later I wound up doing another kill quest with a couple gnomes. We worked really well together. Around 3am one of them shared a "dungeon" quest with me, but said we'd need 3-5 people to do it. Sounds interesting. I got an "elite" quest as well, which I plan on doing tonight if I can find some people to help.

The community aspect of the game reminds me of college a bit. Right now I'm trying to get into the school of Business, so I noticed like 5-7 people who were in some/most of my classes. We didn't talk much at the time, but I'm sure next semester as things get harder we'll have to work together. With WoW I'm seeing a lot of players I saw in passing during the early stages of the game. Now they're lv14-16 and we seem to be moving along at the same pace. Perhaps one day we shall protect our dwarven homeland
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Disposable White Guy on December 30, 2006, 08:15:32 PM
Omgz what's the guild name?  It should be memorable, like <Willco Fanclub> or <The Disney Channel>.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: etiolate on December 30, 2006, 09:25:41 PM
Last night was pretty awesome. After searching for ages I finally found a kickass person to help with my quest. He was a dwarven Paladin and he was BADASS. We finished my quest and then proceded to clear out a big cave. Sadly we both got killed after about an hour of AWESOME-ness, and he signed out shortly after. Luckily I put him in my friends list.

Later I wound up doing another kill quest with a couple gnomes. We worked really well together. Around 3am one of them shared a "dungeon" quest with me, but said we'd need 3-5 people to do it. Sounds interesting. I got an "elite" quest as well, which I plan on doing tonight if I can find some people to help.

The community aspect of the game reminds me of college a bit. Right now I'm trying to get into the school of Business, so I noticed like 5-7 people who were in some/most of my classes. We didn't talk much at the time, but I'm sure next semester as things get harder we'll have to work together. With WoW I'm seeing a lot of players I saw in passing during the early stages of the game. Now they're lv14-16 and we seem to be moving along at the same pace. Perhaps one day we shall protect our dwarven homeland

Now I know why you picked an RP server.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: tale on December 30, 2006, 11:11:15 PM
With warriors - it's best to play them like you are playing Final Fantasy, use potions if you are getting low - and it's good to have a healer around.  Use bandages lots - especially to heal quickly and keep your rage up.  Get buffs from food, and don't be scared of whispering people for buffs like Prayer of Fortitude from priests and Mark of the Wild from Druids.

Remember in a group, it's not too important to do the most damage as a warrior, it's more important that the mob is hitting you and not the other guys.  Learn to switch stances as the need arises - start in Battle Stance, charge in, and switch to Defensive stance once you've landed a Sunder Armor or two.

Glad to here you are still having fun - the "teens" are the sucky bit of WoW - I hate taking any class through levels 11 - 15, it's the only part of the game where I think the balancing is a little off.  However from 16 onwards, you'll really start getting cool abilities.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on December 30, 2006, 11:36:00 PM
Another AWESOME night.

I started off by helping this lv13 do a quest; no one was helping him so I decided to go ahead and bail him out. He was very fun to play with and we were able to kick much trogg arse.

About 30min later I noticed someone was begging people to join a quest with him, concerning ogres. I actually chose that quest yesterday but didn't pursue it since I needed help; it's labeled an "elite" quest, which means it's pretty fucking hard. Well I told him I'd join as well as my lv13 buddy. We headed over and met the guy; then we proceded to spend the next 20min begging people to join us. No one seemed interested at first, and the higher level players thought the entire mission was a joke.

Some #18: lol noobs, the boss ogre is lv20, and his minions are all lv19
Goinio: lol coward!

Finally we got a group ready and set off. We didn't have any priests or paladins lol, so I told everyone I'd make a shit ton of band aids and heal people.
(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e86/PhoenixDark1/drgoinio.jpg)

We then entered The Loch and started our quest. Basically we had to kill 4 brute ogres (all lv20), 4 shaman ogres (all lv19), and 4 regular ogres (all lv19). I think I was our highest lv player at 16 lol. We were able to take out most of the regular ogres with little trouble, and everything seemed like it was going our way. Until of course we got closer to the caves and people started shooting every ogre in sight. We got gangraped countless times lol and then tempers started flaring. Hell I was pissed that people wouldn't WAIT for everyone to heal before shooting another ogre.

After about an hour we had killed everything except the brutes and 2 shamans, but we lost one of our players. A warlock gnome joined a bit later and really saved our asses. He would use his summon monster to aggro a ogre and then lead it to us. This worked for awhile although we were still getting killed constantly. Finally we were able to kill the shamans with this strategy. Those Brutes though..shit. Our plan for them consisted of the warlock luring it to us, then the hunters (we had two) would have their pets attack it while they shot, and I'd charge it. Through some luck we were able to win lol and I got to lv17. Holy shit that was hard, depressing, and yet it was hilariously awesome at the same time. The teamwork was shaky but we pulled through.

I put them all on my friends list lol, and maybe we can do some more elite quests; the reward was 20 silver.  :D
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on December 30, 2006, 11:43:28 PM
lol need a priest
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on December 31, 2006, 04:19:53 AM
Paladins are AWESOME

My next character will be one
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Prost on December 31, 2006, 06:36:13 PM
Another AWESOME night.

I started off by helping this lv13 do a quest; no one was helping him so I decided to go ahead and bail him out. He was very fun to play with and we were able to kick much trogg arse.

About 30min later I noticed someone was begging people to join a quest with him, concerning ogres. I actually chose that quest yesterday but didn't pursue it since I needed help; it's labeled an "elite" quest, which means it's pretty fucking hard. Well I told him I'd join as well as my lv13 buddy. We headed over and met the guy; then we proceded to spend the next 20min begging people to join us. No one seemed interested at first, and the higher level players thought the entire mission was a joke.

Some #18: lol noobs, the boss ogre is lv20, and his minions are all lv19
Goinio: lol coward!

Finally we got a group ready and set off. We didn't have any priests or paladins lol, so I told everyone I'd make a shit ton of band aids and heal people.
(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e86/PhoenixDark1/drgoinio.jpg)

We then entered The Loch and started our quest. Basically we had to kill 4 brute ogres (all lv20), 4 shaman ogres (all lv19), and 4 regular ogres (all lv19). I think I was our highest lv player at 16 lol. We were able to take out most of the regular ogres with little trouble, and everything seemed like it was going our way. Until of course we got closer to the caves and people started shooting every ogre in sight. We got gangraped countless times lol and then tempers started flaring. Hell I was pissed that people wouldn't WAIT for everyone to heal before shooting another ogre.

After about an hour we had killed everything except the brutes and 2 shamans, but we lost one of our players. A warlock gnome joined a bit later and really saved our asses. He would use his summon monster to aggro a ogre and then lead it to us. This worked for awhile although we were still getting killed constantly. Finally we were able to kill the shamans with this strategy. Those Brutes though..shit. Our plan for them consisted of the warlock luring it to us, then the hunters (we had two) would have their pets attack it while they shot, and I'd charge it. Through some luck we were able to win lol and I got to lv17. Holy shit that was hard, depressing, and yet it was hilariously awesome at the same time. The teamwork was shaky but we pulled through.

I put them all on my friends list lol, and maybe we can do some more elite quests; the reward was 20 silver.  :D

It's so fun to see you talking about all this stuff.  I remember back ~march or april of '04 doing all this stuff with my little mage.

But back then mages were absolute gods with sleep.  (You could fire a nuke, then sleep the mob, and the sleep spell's power would never depreciate).  So I soloed that whole ogre quest at level 18, but died a ton doing it... though man it was a blast!

That damn game is so fun.....   Wish I could play it these days....  but it's over now ;(
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: etiolate on December 31, 2006, 10:14:07 PM
I can't believe PD took a bunch of low levels against elites.  We shuold have him start random deadmine pugs.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on January 01, 2007, 06:18:29 AM
We were able to pull it off lol.  :lol

Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: whiteACID on January 01, 2007, 11:03:02 AM
yay!
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on January 02, 2007, 02:06:33 PM
LV 19 BABY

I think I'm going to leave Loch Modan/Theslnar now. Although...I want to get to a level where I can take out an ogre by myself.

And maybe I'm too fucking nice while playing the game. Anytime I look at the chat log and see someone needs help I'll help. Even if I've done the quest already; yesterday I helped about 3 people do an elite quest where you have to kill Chok'Sul and bring his head back to town. He's deeeeeep inside this cave full of lv18-20 ogres, so it's very hard. I absolutely love joining a party and entering the ogre caves. Perhaps that's why I've stayed in that area so long.

But...when I need help no one wants to lol Although yesterday someone helped me kill Ol Sootie :punch
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: tale on January 02, 2007, 02:08:56 PM
Pro-tip:  Go back to Ironforge and look on the map from the Gnome area - there's a train there that will lead you to even greater adventures ...
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on January 02, 2007, 02:15:05 PM
Pro-tip:  Go back to Ironforge and look on the map from the Gnome area - there's a train there that will lead you to even greater adventures ...

Sounds to me like you're trying to get Goinio raped.  >:(


 :lol :-*
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: whiteACID on January 02, 2007, 02:19:13 PM
The Deep Run Tram, it will take you to Stormwind.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on January 02, 2007, 02:34:27 PM
Hm Etiole told me to go there, and I do have to deliver a letter there anyway
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: tale on January 02, 2007, 06:03:24 PM
Pro-tip:  Go back to Ironforge and look on the map from the Gnome area - there's a train there that will lead you to even greater adventures ...

Sounds to me like you're trying to get Goinio raped.  >:(


 :lol :-*

If there is raping going on, you'll be the one doing it to a misguided pirate called Edwin Van Cleef.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: etiolate on January 02, 2007, 07:47:35 PM
I use to want to name a guild Deep Run Tramps but I knewit would get banzored.

edit: We should run Deadmines with PD.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on January 02, 2007, 09:50:16 PM
Two landmarks earlier today

I GOT GOOOOOOLLLLDDD (one piece)

I SAW AND KILLED ORCS

I'm suprised I got a piece of gold considering my AUCTION DEBACLE. Betted 36 silver on an uber weapon, then I realized it said "bid". So I thought "hmmm if it's a bid I can take it back if I find something better". I found a similar weapon that I was able to buy from the auction without bidding. When I tried to take my previous bid back I realized I couldn't...leaving me with two similar weapons and 70 less silver. NEVER AGAIN :lol

I then decided to leave Loch Modan and journey to the Wetlands. On my way there I saw orcs for the first time. They were all level 20 so I wasn't confident I could kill them, but I was able to take them out; they aren't nearly as tough as the ogres.

I should be lv20 by the end of the night
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on January 03, 2007, 12:00:31 PM
I've been obsessed with being able to kill an ogre by myself. Last night, I DID IT

Once I got to lv20 I decided to challenge a lv18 Ogre Enforcer, and I was able to beat him down. Well...I had 200HP left, but who cares. Goinio was victorious

With my new found clout and money I decided to head to IF and get some new abilities/gear. I found some very nice armor, but more interestingly I got new warrior abilities. Now my Thunder Clap and Heroic Strike are both lv3, and I also go this ability where I can yell at an enemy and drop their melee attack by like 30. Plus I can now disarm enemies for up to 30sec, which IS VERY USEFULL.

Now that I'm in the Wetlands I'm kinda bummed though. The area is very drab, and I don't see many players running around.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on January 03, 2007, 12:05:41 PM
Wetlands are gay, I think the only worse place is Westfall
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on January 03, 2007, 12:09:36 PM
Yeah :-\

I was really excited when I saw Orcs, but when I got to the Wetlands all I saw was blobs and little frog people. I'll train there a bit more, and then quickly head off to a better area. Stormwind perhaps
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on January 03, 2007, 12:11:37 PM
Wetland quests are lame too, they have you walking all over creation. Some of the quest areas are hard to find too. Like the dig site, wtf its not even ON my map. I had to have a guy show me where it was.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on January 03, 2007, 12:17:43 PM
HAY A CROCIDILE KILLED MY HUSBAND I'M LV 30 BUT COULD YOU PLEASE AVENGE HIM FOR ME FOR 5 SILVER?

 >:(
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: cubicle47b on January 03, 2007, 12:23:57 PM
I'm taking you to the Deadmines and teaching you how to tank this week, PD.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on January 03, 2007, 12:47:29 PM
I definitely need to get better at that. I'm ok at it I suppose, but I get impatient when my health starts going down. So I wind up coming out of defensive stance and trying to use my various spells.

Finding a good group is always a problem too because it seems like everyone on my friends list and everyone else I see are all hunters/warriors/warlocks. Warlocks really help because of their ranged attacks, and of course hunters have pets to help, but it's clear to me that a paladin/priest is needed. Hell paladins must be the most sought after characters in the game, or at least to me.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: cubicle47b on January 03, 2007, 01:03:10 PM
If whiteacid is online tonight we'll go as a group (assuming she's willing) and I'll teach you how to pull, how to best tank single and multiple mob pulls, why snap aggro moves should be trained (*sigh*) and how they're useful, why hamstring is one of the most important warrior abilities, and how to watch over your group.  As the tank, you have to do your best to maintain control over the fight.  If you can't, things go to shit pretty quickly with elite mobs in tight spaces.

Tanking can be addictive if you have a good group.

edit: I'm watching Children of Men at 8 so maybe around 10 EST.  Make sure you have a decent one handed weapon, shield, and a bow with a fair amount of ammo.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: whiteACID on January 03, 2007, 01:56:55 PM
If whiteacid is online tonight we'll go as a group (assuming she's willing) and I'll teach you how to pull, how to best tank single and multiple mob pulls, why snap aggro moves should be trained (*sigh*) and how they're useful, why hamstring is one of the most important warrior abilities, and how to watch over your group.  As the tank, you have to do your best to maintain control over the fight.  If you can't, things go to shit pretty quickly with elite mobs in tight spaces.

Tanking can be addictive if you have a good group.

edit: I'm watching Children of Men at 8 so maybe around 10 EST.  Make sure you have a decent one handed weapon, shield, and a bow with a fair amount of ammo.
ya, I'll come. You guys wanna do it around 6pm EST? Name a better time if you can't do it then.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: cubicle47b on January 03, 2007, 02:05:49 PM
I'm working until 7 EST then watching a movie with friends so the earliest I can do this is 10 EST.  If you're both online at that time we can go for it.  Otherwise, it won't hurt to wait a day or two.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on January 03, 2007, 02:14:03 PM
Well all I have is a two handed axe, but it's kickass. When I get to Stormwind I'll go to the weapons master there and learn swords.

The boiler man should be gone by the time you guys are ready to play lol. I'll probably get on around 8pm and I know I'll still be on at 10.

Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: whiteACID on January 03, 2007, 02:19:09 PM
10est is fine.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on January 03, 2007, 03:49:14 PM
PeeDee:

Have you ever played a Warcraft game? Like Warcraft III or something.

Started with WarCraft II years ago. Signed up for the WarCraft III beta, and my friend actually got accepted; played at his house for days lol. In the beta there was a different weather system and it actually rained lol.

I was more of a StarCraft guy though
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Prost on January 03, 2007, 06:00:31 PM
I think this thread is just awesome.

You get to see all the different things that he just misses, like going to stormwind.  He hasn't even gone on the tram and he's level 19!

Right around 20 is when all of the nice wetlands/duskwood/cool redridge quests kick in.

i used to love doing those quests, then when you get ~30 you can do shimmering flats, which i just love.

Then 40 it's tanaris baby!  ogre grinding ftw.

unfortunately since you're a warrior you'll have to gear yourself up in instances....  if that's how things still work anyways.

you're making me want to play you bastard
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: whiteACID on January 03, 2007, 06:31:46 PM
I think this thread is just awesome.

You get to see all the different things that he just misses, like going to stormwind.  He hasn't even gone on the tram and he's level 19!

Right around 20 is when all of the nice wetlands/duskwood/cool redridge quests kick in.

i used to love doing those quests, then when you get ~30 you can do shimmering flats, which i just love.

Then 40 it's tanaris baby!  ogre grinding ftw.

unfortunately since you're a warrior you'll have to gear yourself up in instances....  if that's how things still work anyways.

you're making me want to play you bastard
Ya, it makes me kinda want to go back to the days when I was a noob, and everything was new and exciting.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: etiolate on January 03, 2007, 06:40:31 PM
Wetlands are gay, I think the only worse place is Westfall

Westfall is big but it's at least full of quests you can double up on in an area.  Wetlands is one quest per area, including the trifling "finish quest, walk back to quest giver for another quest in area, walk back to quest area and repeat over and over" routine, which Westfall has some of, too, but balances it out with the doubling up in one area. The benefit of going Westfall over the dwarf and elf areas for that level is really the quest line leading up to Deadmines, then getting the quest item from Deadmines that gets you that ring.

I don't really like the post 20 areas.  The coolest thing I remember is seeing Stitches for the first time and fighting him. PD is going to be introduced to ganking once he hits Redridge or Darkshire.  But there is payback..

Last night I went exploring through the horde/elf continent to gather some flight paths and do some small "go here" quests. I ended up doing a lot of horde killing, especially once I got to Stonetalon Peak. Stonetalon Mountains is like the horde equivalent to Redridge, and I ended up corpse camping and going 1 on 2 against similiar levels. Normally, I'd feel bad about it, but I was lvl 25 and going against levels 21-27 and going against two at a time.  I got about 9 HKs off of 5 different peolpe.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: tale on January 03, 2007, 10:19:29 PM
Well if he continues on his path northwards, he's going to end up in Hillsbrad in his late 20s - then he'll learn have some adventures ...

Speaking of which, when I was playing my rogue on another PvP server, I used to stealth up behind people so they heard the "Wooo" stealth noise, then run away and just watch them panic.  Is that mean?
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on January 04, 2007, 02:15:27 AM
So much awesome stuff happened today/tonight...god damn. I'm so tired I can't post the entire story, but me and some other people from EvilBore kicked ass (and got our asses kicked). I'm not a good tank, but I damn learned some things tonight. Goinio grew up today.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: etiolate on January 04, 2007, 02:20:01 AM
You were okay. We just had everyone getting disconnects.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: cubicle47b on January 04, 2007, 03:19:03 AM
Thanks for running the instance without me, BTW.

I ended up in a decent SM group and we pulled out a 5 minute Herod kill (he's a 40 elite, the highest level members of our group were 35, it took forever).
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: etiolate on January 04, 2007, 06:49:47 AM
You weren't on yet! We're going to run it again and we'll wait for yee.  Especially since you'll make it faster. :shh

Had a 2 hour WSG tonight.  That was painful.
(http://www.mapored.com/etiolate/wsg.jpg)


And my personal highlight from deadmines.
(http://www.mapored.com/etiolate/markofpd.jpg)
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: whiteACID on January 04, 2007, 08:36:07 AM
Sorry for the DC last night guys. PD was cracking me up though, I met him in Stormwind when he got off the tram and he was like "holy shit, this place is awesome".

fuck VC, let's do the Stocks, we're a more suitable level for it.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: cubicle47b on January 04, 2007, 09:48:28 AM
Quote
You weren't on yet!

I logged on when I said I would.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: whiteACID on January 04, 2007, 09:56:34 AM
Quote
You weren't on yet!

I logged on when I said I would.
That's my fault. I get you and etoiliate mixed up and I thought you were emptybox, so when I saw him log on at 9 I said let's do VC.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: cubicle47b on January 04, 2007, 11:41:17 AM
It's fine, I didn't care about the run.  I just wanted to teach PD how to tank.  In our SM group the tank pulled with proximity aggro and never used hamstring so we ended up unintentionally chain-pulling most big rooms in the instance.  Since the group was really good other than that it was fun and chaotic instead of being a disaster but I shudder to think what the cathedral would have been like (if we'd been 2-3 levels higher).
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on January 04, 2007, 02:41:25 PM
Ok now that my brain is active again, I must say HOLY SHIT.

I had been in the game killing orcs with another group when etiolate/whiteacid/cubicle signed in. I left my group and flew to Iron Forge, and after some confusion I finally found the train that leads to Stormwind. The train is pretty badass, and next time I get on I want to try to jump off or something.

Then I finally got to the exit and saw whiteAcid, who kindly put up with my lag (I always lag a bit in huge areas full of other players/NPCs). We turned a corner and then I saw it. HOLY SHIT STORMWIND IS AMAZING. And I thought Iron Forge looked awesome lol. This was like leaving Africa and coming to America or something lke that. THE ROADS ARE PAVED IN STONE. And they had a bank! I wasn't able to explore the town at that time though because I had to follow whiteAcid.

Eventually we were teleported to Westland, where we met the other players in the group. Outside of etiolate and whiteAcid (lv 25 and 26 or so) I was the highest lv in the group at 20. We also had a lv17 and lv16 lol, but they were pretty awesome.

Before I go on I must say everything I saw last night - from Stormwind to Westland to the Deadmines - all looked 10 times better than the Wetlands, and I can't possibly imagine going back there for long period of time. I'll turn in some quests there and then come back to the Deadmines lol.

The Deadmines is a very cool environment. It's like an underground gold mine or something, and there are a lot of enemies around. We were able to kick their asses pretty easily for the most part - the human NPC characters in there were a joke. But there were these little ass goblin things that gave us trouble. Since I was supposed to tank I always tried to Rend them, use Demoralizing Shout, and then disarm them; that would cut their attack power down a lot. I didn't use Hamstring enough, and I noticed that after I would stun an enemy, it would just walk past me and charge everyone behind me. Ugh :(

We died a couple times in that area, but for the most part we were able to get to the center of the area without trouble. That's where the problems began. We saw this bigass ship, and the area leading to it was filled with PIRATES OMG. Got by them pretty easy, after which we saw one of the boss's minions. He was a HUGE minotar, and his name was MR SNIDE. What a complete bastard. First time we fought him he killed us, in part because he'd stun us and yell "oh no you didn't, now I'm gonna get HARDCORE" and run and get duel wield blades from a chest. Second time we killed him.

Sadly as we moved up the ship people started having connection problems. whiteAcid got disconnected; she was saving all our asses with healing powers and this really cool snowflake spell, but we thought we could carry on with our other mage. We did for a bit, then HE got disconnected lol.

So then Etiole decided to give me his gun and have me pull enemies towards us, but as I loaded the gun all the pirates and goblins (like 10) charged us. I have no idea what happened, but I guess one of our players went too far up the ship and aggro'd them. SHIT. I tried jumping off the ship like a pussy, but they got me in mid air :lol

After that the party slowly disappeared, and me and Eti were left. He went one way and I went the other.  Apparently he attacked the main boss and got killed lol. I was able to make my way all the way out of the Deadmines alive, but I certainly wasn't helped by the scores of players I passed by. I'd fucking save all their lv17 asses but when I was in trouble they'd run by. Then when I asked to be in their group they didn't want me. "Nah, we only have 3 people but we're good." LIKE HELL YOU ARE DUMBASS. >:(
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: whiteACID on January 04, 2007, 03:55:54 PM
Lol, I don't have healing powers, that was emptybox healing you. Mage's can't heal, only priest's, druids and paladins can. The snowflakes were Blizzard, an AOE (Area of Effect) spell.

Ironforge also has a bank, you should check it out sometime.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: whiteACID on January 04, 2007, 06:30:16 PM
Did you make a character on our server?
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Prost on January 04, 2007, 11:49:40 PM
lol this sounds like so much fun....
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on January 05, 2007, 02:25:01 AM
SHIT

I was in the Deadmines for about 4 and a half hours, half of which consisted of me being on a real shitty "team". My eyes... :lol

Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: cubicle47b on January 05, 2007, 02:39:57 AM
I did 2 SM Armory runs tonight.  The first time through we had a good priest and things went extremely smoothly.  On the second run we were supposed to pick up a main healer but ended up with another paladin instead.  I volunteered to do the healing and told the other paladin to back me up if needed.  On a bad pull I went OOM and the other pally was (of course) OOM because he'd been spamming judgments and consecration.  He dies, the tank dies, but the rest of us survive.  When we get to Herod I tell the other pally that I'm not single healing this fight and he has to help me and I get a "FINE" in party chat.  So what happens?  First thing he does is get killed by Herod's whirlwind.  Seriously, the first one.  So I single heal the fight, running OOM and having the tank die at 5% but finishing Herod off.  Before all the suicide cultists or w/e make their way down someone loots (probably the hunter).  This is before rezes of course.  The helm drops (+13 str, +8 sta, and +14 crit rating) and I ask in party chat if I should roll.  The warrior, who is the only person who can actually wear the item ATM tells me to go for it so I do.  I win and the hunter / pally are incredulous.  The level 35 hunter, who actually asked before we started the dungeon if we'd give him the helm if it dropped, gives me shit for rolling because "in a few levels I'll be wearing plate."  5 levels away from being able to use something with the primary stat of strength on it and he gives me shit...

Anyway, I was relatively proud of myself for healing that group through the armory.  Not bad for a full ret (for leveling) pally with few +int items at level 35.  And the new helm is pretty nice although I can't wear it for another level and a half.  I need Mograine's mace now.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: cubicle47b on January 05, 2007, 02:42:43 AM
Hah, you finally got out of there.  I think you were in the Deadmines when I logged on and I almost went from lvl 34 - 36 in that time.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Wobedraggled on January 05, 2007, 08:00:26 AM
I'm "" <------that close to hopping back into WoW


I just need more self control.

Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on January 05, 2007, 11:20:48 AM
Hah, you finally got out of there.  I think you were in the Deadmines when I logged on and I almost went from lvl 34 - 36 in that time.

I gained one level last night lol; I'm almost to lv23. Kinda hard when you're sharing XP with 4 people

The Deadmines are easily my favorite place to level right now. Grinding can be rather uneventful, but grinding while making your way through the mines with a group is very fun. Basically if you stand around in Westfall long enough someone will run up to you, begging you to join. Which is what happened yesterday.

The first group I joined was very good. It was lead by a lv23 paladin who really knew how to play. We got through the enemies pretty easily; all our problems were with people not getting together lol. I admit, I was greedy. We kept finding these kickass swords (2), and I needed on both; I want to level my sword skills up, and I planned on doing it after I got out the mines. Then we found this even more kickass axe that was better than the one I had. I needed again, at which point the paladin got pissed.

Paladin: Why did you need there? You needed on the swords
Goinio: I just wanted them I'm sorry. My sword rating sucks
Paladin: You aren't using them
Goinio: I use them outside the cave; didn't want to have to buy swords
Paladin: wtf I think Goin is a niglit
Everyone: LOL
Goinio: I'm sorry. I will give you the axe if you want. I won't do it again
Paladin: This really makes me mad.

He said something like "niglit" I can't remember exactly what. It wasn't a play on the N word though.

I offered to give him the axe and he threatened to kick me out the group. He kept bitching for 5 more minutes, after which I checked his gear and found out he had a hammer that did twice as much damage as the weapon I took. For the rest of the night I passed everytime someone found a good item.

Anyway we got to VC and disposed of him quite easily, after which point we left the mines and disbanded. I made my way back to Westland to find another group. Worst decision of 2007 so far

So this lv19 mage asked me to help tank with his group. I agreed, and pretty soon the group was ready. We only had one healer but we made it to the underground ship quite easily. Then things went to shit, over and over again. Basically the ship is connected to a dock full of pirates. Once you kill them all you have to face VC's first minion, Mr Smide; that was easy enough. After that we made it to the highest part of the ship where we were quickly killed. Never got to fight VC either. Some dumbass arrgo'd the entire area.

This proceded to happen for the next two hours basically. We'd get all the way to the top of the ship and get killed due to some dumbass. Or two people would get killed after not listening to me and the mage, who'd tell everyone to jump on the canons (can't be attacked there). First we'd lose healers, then we got this level 22 paladin who didn't know how to rez and proceded to get us raped. Finally around 2am we killed VC. Wow :lol
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Himu on January 05, 2007, 01:03:17 PM
I've wanted to try out WoW but I don't know.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Himu on January 05, 2007, 01:39:29 PM
I'm getting the trial now. What server should I get on..
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: whiteACID on January 05, 2007, 01:46:46 PM
Ravenholdt
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: cubicle47b on January 05, 2007, 01:47:49 PM
I hope Himu gets corpse camped.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: whiteACID on January 05, 2007, 01:54:47 PM
Make sure roll Alliance Himu
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Himu on January 05, 2007, 02:03:26 PM
4 more hours left till it's done.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: TVC15 on January 05, 2007, 04:32:40 PM
PD, are you really playing at 800x600?  Is it 1998?  That's a WOMAN'S resolution:

(http://indarktrees.com/pics/runestone.jpg)

<3 belf
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: TVC15 on January 05, 2007, 04:51:54 PM
Yeah, I might jump on tonite and hang with you guys.  How do I go about contacting you gays?  Put all yr names in one post.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: cubicle47b on January 05, 2007, 05:14:29 PM
Real men play at 1920x1200.

We have a guild called Divided Path.  There's Goinio (PD), Emptybox (Etiolate), Zinla? (whiteacid), and Esmi (me).
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: TVC15 on January 05, 2007, 05:20:42 PM
What are the classes? Goino is a warrior, right?

Eh I should probably finish reading the thread.  I got offended when I saw the 800x600 and had to reply.  I mean that is shameful.  I can barely see that.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: cubicle47b on January 05, 2007, 05:26:27 PM
PD - Warrior
Etiolate - Druid
whiteacid - Mage
me - Paladin

They're between level 23 and 26, I'm about to hit level 36.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: whiteACID on January 05, 2007, 06:06:40 PM
Yes, my name is Zinla. our guild is Divided Path. I am the prophet
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: TVC15 on January 05, 2007, 06:13:50 PM
I forget, do you need to be level 10 to join a guild?
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: cubicle47b on January 05, 2007, 06:35:51 PM
Level doesn't matter for joining a guild.  I don't know if you can create a guild under level 10, though.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: etiolate on January 05, 2007, 08:32:31 PM
The quests in wow suck, are they changing that for Burning Crusade?
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: TVC15 on January 05, 2007, 09:40:43 PM
The quests in wow suck, are they changing that for Burning Crusade?

I haven't played since December, but the quests did indeed seem better.  I thought the writing moved up a notch or two, too.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: TVC15 on January 05, 2007, 09:55:31 PM
Also, my character is named CARMACKIA, and she is a warlock.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on January 05, 2007, 10:26:09 PM
I'm not using 800x600 but I do have many effects turned off
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Himu on January 05, 2007, 11:48:06 PM
Installing now.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Himu on January 06, 2007, 12:50:22 AM
Okay, fuck this shit. I can't play the goddamn trial without entering my fucking credit/debit card shit? NO. That should be optional. Right now I don't have a valid card so now I'm unable to play. Well shit muffins, that's just fine and dandy! 
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on January 06, 2007, 02:12:53 AM
Okay, fuck this shit. I can't play the goddamn trial without entering my fucking credit/debit card shit? NO. That should be optional. Right now I don't have a valid card so now I'm unable to play. Well shit muffins, that's just fine and dandy! 
wtf

You sure you downloaded the trial lol? It's fucking free.
https://signup.worldofwarcraft.com/trial/10dayfreetrial.htm
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: TVC15 on January 06, 2007, 02:53:04 AM
Yo guys.  I'm prolly not going to be on until late tonite because I want to finish up Dexter.  I'll catch up with you on the weekend.  Do you guys have an official playing time?
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: cubicle47b on January 06, 2007, 02:56:29 AM
There's no official playing time, just log on whenever.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Himu on January 06, 2007, 02:56:36 AM
Okay, fuck this shit. I can't play the goddamn trial without entering my fucking credit/debit card shit? NO. That should be optional. Right now I don't have a valid card so now I'm unable to play. Well shit muffins, that's just fine and dandy! 
wtf

You sure you downloaded the trial lol? It's fucking free.
https://signup.worldofwarcraft.com/trial/10dayfreetrial.htm

Thanks.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: TVC15 on January 06, 2007, 02:58:54 AM
There's no official playing time, just log on whenever.

I forget, how do I go about joining a guild?  Do I have to go to the guild place in the big cities?
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: etiolate on January 06, 2007, 07:01:33 AM
You just get invited.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: whiteACID on January 06, 2007, 11:02:16 AM
Yo guys.  I'm prolly not going to be on until late tonite because I want to finish up Dexter.  I'll catch up with you on the weekend.  Do you guys have an official playing time?
No official playing time, but most of us usually play at night. After 5 or so.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on January 06, 2007, 02:20:07 PM
Yesterday me and whiteAcid (Zinla) quested together for a pretty long time; it's now very clear to me that the best and most entertaining way to grind is to do quests (especially kill quests) while killing creeps along the way. I got so much XP for every quest it wasn't funny, and plus lots of money. At one point I had 3 gold :hyper

I was eager to use some of my new tank skills while playing with her. I've improved, but I'm still not that great at it, but the guides I found (and cubicle provided) are helping. While playing with her my strategy consisted of:

Using Taunt to get the enemies attention and then Sundering their armor. After that I'd use Demoralizing Shout. With whiteAcid it was hard because she was doing so much damage to the enemies that they'd ignore me after awhile and run to her. But luckily we both never died during our quests, which had us doing everything from killing dinosaurs, murdering Orcs, and escorting NPCs. Very nice.

Later that night I joined a big group and started another Orc quest; this one required us to kill a certain Orc leader and bring back his head. We died a couple times in part because I wasn't tanking that well. But once I started using the Tab button to switch from enemy to enemy things got better.

We then set off to kill a human warlock named Margoth (or something like that). He was located at the top of this tower filled with enemies. Basically he was surrounded by around 4 minions. We decided to sheep them and solely attack him since he could summon this HUGE undead Abomination. Right before we killed him he summoned it. At that point my tanking became pretty easy as I taunted him and then used Demoralizing Shout; he only attacked me for the entire battle, which seemed to last forever due to his insane amount of HP. We had a very good paladin who healed me throughout the battle. Amazing.

I gained two levels yesterday and now I'm lv25
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: tale on January 06, 2007, 04:48:19 PM
Using Taunt to get the enemies attention and then Sundering their armor. After that I'd use Demoralizing Shout. With whiteAcid it was hard because she was doing so much damage to the enemies that they'd ignore me after awhile and run to her. But luckily we both never died during our quests, which had us doing everything from killing dinosaurs, murdering Orcs, and escorting NPCs. Very nice.

Often this isn't your fault - other players have to understand not to go in with "all guns blazing" straight away.  When I group with my tank, I tell the group  not to attack until after I do a thunderclap - that gives me enough time to build aggro, and stop them from stealing it from me in case they get a bit over-enthusiastic.  Or just ask them not to use high damage attacks/spells until you've got at least 3 sunders on the beastie.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: etiolate on January 06, 2007, 07:33:11 PM
I try to save one of my taunts or shouts for after the ranged dps hits. You'll get more aggro drawing stuff as you level. So you could have like taunt, demoralizing, an aoe taunt shout, sunder, and intercept at a later level and be able to pull the stragglers back to you.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Himu on January 06, 2007, 11:44:24 PM
My nick is crystalvalley
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: etiolate on January 06, 2007, 11:48:37 PM
is your character a girl?
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Himu on January 07, 2007, 12:01:49 AM
nope. it's a place in the world of suikoden <3
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: cubicle47b on January 07, 2007, 01:46:16 AM
I have you on my friends list, TVC.  As soon as I see you on, I'll throw you a ginvite.  Even if your character's name produces disturbing mental images.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Himu on January 07, 2007, 03:30:34 PM
GET ON WOW. I'M ABOUT TO GET ON WOW NOW PD. omg
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on January 07, 2007, 04:01:55 PM
Now?

I'll only be able to play for like 20 minutes probably lol
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Himu on January 07, 2007, 04:05:37 PM
Nevermind. Goddamn WoW has me dling another patch.  ::)
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: whiteACID on January 07, 2007, 04:58:22 PM
I pvp'ed with Emptybox today, out of about 15 games or so we only lost 1. PvP is awesome.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: whiteACID on January 07, 2007, 06:50:29 PM
So I'm getting WoW monday. Should I immediately get TBC on the 12th or what?
It comes out on the 16th doesn't it?
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Stocky on January 07, 2007, 07:06:37 PM
(http://img182.imageshack.us/img182/3497/wowscrnshot010607035308wh4.jpg)

Maybe you'll be as good as me one day.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on January 07, 2007, 09:19:31 PM
I'm not. I just got this one!
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: whiteACID on January 07, 2007, 09:51:27 PM
You're pretty much going to have to get the Burning Crusade expansion pack if you want to hit lvl 70 and play with your friend in the Outlands or even try out one of the new races.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on January 07, 2007, 10:03:12 PM
Eventually I'll get it no doubt. But it's sort of like StarCraft. I bought StarCraft pretty late when everyone had the Brood War expansion. I decided to finish the game and get good at it before moving on to the expansion (which rocks btw).

Right now there's so much shit I don't know that I want to take my time and discover things
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on January 07, 2007, 10:14:00 PM
Himu: I'll be on in a few minutes, after my nightly stop to Interracial Frenzy
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: etiolate on January 07, 2007, 10:39:26 PM
Had a good pvp run with whiteacid, owning in WSG.  We should get PD to try it once.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: etiolate on January 08, 2007, 05:05:20 AM
I don't get Arathi resource point scoring.  A team can hold 3 bases for most of the match, then lose 2 in the final minute and lose by 60-80 points? That is messed up.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: whiteACID on January 08, 2007, 07:25:11 AM
I can't believe I did all that pvp yesterday and only got 545 honor.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: etiolate on January 08, 2007, 09:49:44 AM
That blows, I think I got 700 or so.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: cubicle47b on January 08, 2007, 11:12:31 AM
My hard drive failed Sunday morning and replacing it is proving to be a problem since loading my motherboard's SATA drivers during the windows install makes it crash.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Disposable White Guy on January 08, 2007, 11:13:25 AM
The quests in wow suck, are they changing that for Burning Crusade?

Hi guys, late to the party here.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5334081216597205637&q=bc+bombing+run&hl=en

lulz
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: whiteACID on January 08, 2007, 12:47:05 PM
Using Taunt to get the enemies attention and then Sundering their armor. After that I'd use Demoralizing Shout. With whiteAcid it was hard because she was doing so much damage to the enemies that they'd ignore me after awhile and run to her. But luckily we both never died during our quests, which had us doing everything from killing dinosaurs, murdering Orcs, and escorting NPCs. Very nice.

Often this isn't your fault - other players have to understand not to go in with "all guns blazing" straight away.  When I group with my tank, I tell the group  not to attack until after I do a thunderclap - that gives me enough time to build aggro, and stop them from stealing it from me in case they get a bit over-enthusiastic.  Or just ask them not to use high damage attacks/spells until you've got at least 3 sunders on the beastie.
I was like 5 levels higher than him dude, wtf you want me to do? I could have stood back and did pussy shots with my wand, but with my guns a blazin we downed the enemies about 5x faster.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Stocky on January 08, 2007, 12:50:04 PM
(http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/4756/turismohr8.jpg)

See if you can notice it.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: whiteACID on January 08, 2007, 01:10:26 PM
wow
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: cubicle47b on January 08, 2007, 02:16:57 PM
Alright, I'm back up and running.  I grabbed a windows media version copy from work that had the drivers I needed and did the install, then got network and video drivers, and am downloading the 1.12 and 2.0 patches.  I should be in game a few hours after I get home.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: whiteACID on January 08, 2007, 02:48:18 PM
Well I probably won't be on tonight. The Big game and homework to do.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: cubicle47b on January 08, 2007, 03:16:21 PM
I'm just going to run SM over and over again, anyway.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on January 08, 2007, 03:33:55 PM
Well I probably won't be on tonight. The Big game
:bow

Fuck Flordia
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Stocky on January 08, 2007, 03:47:09 PM
Well I probably won't be on tonight. The Big game
:bow

Fuck Flordia

Yea, fuck Flordia. Go Florida.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Vizzys on January 08, 2007, 04:49:05 PM
Incognito :punch
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on January 08, 2007, 08:45:32 PM
Today I finished up the Stockades quests and got to lv26. I was in a pretty good group. Although having a healer is a must, I'm beginning to realize that mages are VERY important in group play. Our mage was very good at pulling, thus we didn't have to constantly fight 3-5 enemies at the same time.

I think I'm getting better at tank although I noticed in the bigger battles I still get lost a bit. To me, you know when you're doing a good job at tank when you're the only person being healed. This was the case for most of the Stockade quests, which was a good thing.

After the Stockades I decided to go buy some new gear; I bought some very nice stuff yesterday, but I still needed chest armor. I saw some cool armor at the auction that was like 247; it also was +25 health and added +14 to my defense rating. I thought it was a steal so I spent most of my hard earned cash on it, took my other armor off, and FUCK

Realized the armor I bought was actually WORSE than the armor I had. My armor rating before: 1015. Now: 1009 wtf. What a waste :lol >:(
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: etiolate on January 08, 2007, 09:26:28 PM
The quests in wow suck, are they changing that for Burning Crusade?

Hi guys, late to the party here.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5334081216597205637&q=bc+bombing+run&hl=en

lulz

Thati's cool, but I meant more like are the quests something other than "go kill these things and come back".  Go here, kill shit gets boring and it doesn't ever change much in the game. Two of my favorite quests are the one where you find a necklace in the lake for some little girl, and the Legend of Stalvan, because most of the quest is exploring or doing things other than repeatitive killing.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: cubicle47b on January 09, 2007, 04:06:08 AM
I did SM Armory and Cathedral tonight and good god was it awful.  Some asshole in my house is seeding torrents (although I'm not sure who) because my latency ranged from 750 ms to 2000 ms.  Sadly, I still managed to outdps everyone because the only other person who didn't suck was the healer.  And for my troubles I got herod's shoulder, the aegis of the scarlet commander, and the triune amulet.  Basically all the loot but no one else rolled on it so w/e.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Disposable White Guy on January 09, 2007, 08:48:36 AM
The quests in wow suck, are they changing that for Burning Crusade?

Hi guys, late to the party here.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5334081216597205637&q=bc+bombing+run&hl=en

lulz

Thati's cool, but I meant more like are the quests something other than "go kill these things and come back".  Go here, kill shit gets boring and it doesn't ever change much in the game. Two of my favorite quests are the one where you find a necklace in the lake for some little girl, and the Legend of Stalvan, because most of the quest is exploring or doing things other than repeatitive killing.

Then you should probably stick to Oblivion.  The majority of experience gains in WoW, or any MMO, is from killing things or other players.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Stocky on January 09, 2007, 11:16:16 AM
Today I finished up the Stockades quests and got to lv26. I was in a pretty good group. Although having a healer is a must, I'm beginning to realize that mages are VERY important in group play. Our mage was very good at pulling, thus we didn't have to constantly fight 3-5 enemies at the same time.

I think I'm getting better at tank although I noticed in the bigger battles I still get lost a bit. To me, you know when you're doing a good job at tank when you're the only person being healed. This was the case for most of the Stockade quests, which was a good thing.

After the Stockades I decided to go buy some new gear; I bought some very nice stuff yesterday, but I still needed chest armor. I saw some cool armor at the auction that was like 247; it also was +25 health and added +14 to my defense rating. I thought it was a steal so I spent most of my hard earned cash on it, took my other armor off, and FUCK

Realized the armor I bought was actually WORSE than the armor I had. My armor rating before: 1015. Now: 1009 wtf. What a waste :lol >:(

6 armor doesn't really make a difference, bubba.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on January 09, 2007, 07:56:26 PM
HELP :lol :-\

So today I was exploring the Redridge Mountains and came across the Burning Steppe. I ventured JUST close enough to arrgo one of the huge stone monster things, and he wound up stunning and killing me. So I figured fuck it, I'll rez in the graveyard instead of coming back here to find my body and possibly being killed again. But when my spirit was released I wasn't in the Lakeshire graveyard; I was in a graveyard deeper inside the Burning Steppe; I can't remember the name of where I am exactly, but I need help getting out. Everytime I tried running a huge monster would kill me in a couple hits. Hell I don't even have to be near them; they come out of nowhere.

All my armor is in the red now, and I don't know what to do. I don't have any stones that could teleport me. :(
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on January 09, 2007, 08:13:12 PM
No. Hell I've never gotten any
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on January 09, 2007, 10:04:19 PM
I only have like 1 silver :lol

I'll sell some of my stuff
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: etiolate on January 10, 2007, 07:02:46 AM
Okay finished getting all my pvp gear. People now think I'm a cool young dude, but pfah.  Then I leveld to 30 quick and did a buttload of quests, including the elite in alterac which was 37 elites.  Still didn't level me though.  (grrrind) Level 30 skills cost me about 5 gold, but I made back 4 gold with the quests thankfully. I now get tranquility at 30, but I would like to say what they did to Druids with this last patch sucks.  They took away track humanoids and it suddenly feels like I'm moving slower.  Plus, I didn't realize they switched up things and refunded my talent points until I was in a BG.  Then I hastily reinputted my talents, but messed up and wasted 1 talent point. I don't want to spend the money to relearn them either.  I don't understand why they took away track humanoids.  That was incredibly useful. It's like they went "oh you can talk to NPCs when you're a kitty now! Oh but we also nerfed cat form kkbi" Fuckem.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: whiteACID on January 10, 2007, 09:20:39 AM
No. Hell I've never gotten any
PD there is a white stone with blue markings in your bag somewhere. Go to an inn in any city and talk to the innkeeper to have your stone set to there. When you click it, it will hearth you to whichever inn you have it set too.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: cubicle47b on January 10, 2007, 10:45:40 AM
(http://i11.tinypic.com/2qmdjc1.jpg)

Yay, level 40.

http://i18.tinypic.com/2vmd0km.jpg
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: whiteACID on January 10, 2007, 02:37:18 PM
Esmi is looking pretty damn sexy man. Zinla just hit 30 last night.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on January 10, 2007, 03:57:27 PM
I was able to get out last night. Luckily a buddy of mine got on and led a group of high level characters deep into the Flame Crest to save me :lol

SAVING PRIVATE GOINIO

But holy shit did I see some things. There was this one Volchan thing that was bigger than most of the buildings in the game! After I got out of there I was shocked to see it on the bridge in Lakeshire, fighting (and killing) guards. It disappeared after awhile though, which was strange.

My journey to lv30 will take a bit longer due to school. I won't be able to play much on Tues and Thurs, and I certainly won't be able to play at night on Mon/Wed. Luckily MLK day is coming up so I'll be able to play a shit ton for that entire holiday weekend.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: whiteACID on January 10, 2007, 06:02:29 PM
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y6/mssmojorising/zinla.jpg)
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: etiolate on January 10, 2007, 08:09:57 PM
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y6/mssmojorising/zinla.jpg)

How do you get the camera to stay in that poisition? My camera always sticks behind my character.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: whiteACID on January 10, 2007, 09:49:51 PM
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y6/mssmojorising/zinla.jpg)

How do you get the camera to stay in that poisition? My camera always sticks behind my character.
In Interface Options change your Camera Follow Style to Never.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on January 10, 2007, 10:02:21 PM
All you have to do is hold down the left click on your mouse and rotate it.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Yeti on January 10, 2007, 10:56:51 PM
I want to see some more pictures of Goinio.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: etiolate on January 10, 2007, 11:24:29 PM
I'm distinguished mentally-challenged.  I'm just so use to using right click to change camera angle.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: whiteACID on January 11, 2007, 09:41:51 AM
I decided to get on my priest for the first time in a long time and check out the Dark Portal:
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y6/mssmojorising/darkportal.jpg)

I started to get attacked, but luckily I had help.
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y6/mssmojorising/dp2.jpg)

Oh, shit I better heal myself. Those hounds hit pretty hard and are immune to fear.
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y6/mssmojorising/dp3.jpg)

I ventured into the heart of the Dark Portal and died immediately.
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y6/mssmojorising/dpdead.jpg)
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: etiolate on January 11, 2007, 09:45:27 PM
The 32 Druid
(http://www.mapored.com/etiolate/emptybox2.jpg)
(http://www.mapored.com/etiolate/emptybox3.jpg)
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on January 11, 2007, 10:32:18 PM
Looking at you guy's pics is really educational for me. I haven't used that side action bar, although I just recently activated it. I also just started using the bar that sits on top of the main action bar. Currently I just have all my food/potions/First Aid/etc there for quick access
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: etiolate on January 12, 2007, 12:38:08 AM
Okay, I'm getting pretty tired of grouping with RP people.  I guess all Dwarves are Scottish now. L'est I be mistaken, AYE.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: cubicle47b on January 12, 2007, 01:35:26 AM
I went by the Dark Portal today with my lock and got the tabard which is the same tabard as the Argent Dawn one which I already had.  Lame.  And the portal felguards hit like girls.  I drain tanked 3 at the same time.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Disposable White Guy on January 12, 2007, 11:33:15 AM
Yeah they could've done a newer design on the tabard.  Using it and having a Holy Nova come out of your wang is kinda neato completo though.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: whiteACID on January 12, 2007, 02:42:28 PM
Well guys, looks like I won't be playing with you much longer. When the xpac comes out I will be playing a horde blood elf. That was the only way Megafoo would play again is if we played Horde. And honestly I want to try it out, I have yet to play a Horde Character past level 7, and it will be nice not logging into Ironforge anymore. So we will probably both roll Mages.

I’m trying to think of cool names for us. There were two rogues on my old server named Zyk and Zya, so something similar.  Any ideas?

I’ll update everyone on the server once I pick one.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Bacon on January 12, 2007, 02:48:21 PM
Didn't you break up with Megafoo the first time around cause he played WoW too much?
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: whiteACID on January 12, 2007, 02:56:55 PM
Didn't you break up with Megafoo the first time around cause he played WoW too much?
There’s a difference between playing casually every other day and running a guild and being on 10-14 hours a day. He quit playing when he realized it ruined our relationship before, he hasn’t played in about 6 months. He actually doesn’t want to start back up again, but I wanted to play with him on a casual basis.

Like it’s any of your business anyways.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: cubicle47b on January 12, 2007, 03:11:17 PM
I'm playing horde side on Khaz Modan in the expansion if you would like to try a PVE server.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: whiteACID on January 12, 2007, 03:21:23 PM
I'm playing horde side on Khaz Modan in the expansion if you would like to try a PVE server.
Thanks, but I would never play anything other than pvp.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: whiteACID on January 12, 2007, 03:22:02 PM
:lol :lol :lol How can WoW ruin a relationship? Oh boy.

Sounds like Megafool doesn't know how to prevent a relationship from being stale.
It wasn't WoW, it could have been anything that took that much time out of a day.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on January 12, 2007, 04:51:51 PM
Zinla RIP :(



Anyway I'm in Darkshire/Duskwoods now. This is a very good place to level because most of the creeps give out a lot of XP and money when you kill them. Also a lot of the quests center around killing things so it makes leveling even faster.

I've also noticed a lot of chain quests in the area. Hell today I tried helping this one group but it became clear that I wasn't benefitting. They were killing all these elites and crap but I wasn't qualified for the quest. So now I'm accepting every quest I can in preparation to go on some of these more elite quests.

(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e86/PhoenixDark1/moneyshot.jpg)
Goinio during a quick visit to Stormwind; I need to get my mining/blacksmithing ratings up. Like, WAY up lol
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on January 12, 2007, 07:18:50 PM
Dude you need to stop playing WoW so much. What do you do outside of playing WoW?

Give you new siblings
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on January 12, 2007, 07:32:53 PM
I like those demon women things with wings/tails. I told this one guy "I want to fuck your pet" and he left my group
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on January 12, 2007, 08:40:51 PM
If your avatar shows up - sure!
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: cubicle47b on January 13, 2007, 12:49:46 AM
I took my pally to the dark portal today and couldn't get the quest for the tabard.  Screw you Blizzard.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Bacon on January 13, 2007, 02:14:31 AM
Didn't you break up with Megafoo the first time around cause he played WoW too much?
Like it’s any of your business anyways.

I only know about it because you posted about it on a forum before.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Zethca on January 13, 2007, 06:46:05 PM
I'm in the best guild on Khadgar (US) Alliance side.

Scion. We're on Sapphiron. /flex
Sadly we won't see a KT kill before TBC.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Prost on January 14, 2007, 11:41:25 PM
Well guys, looks like I won't be playing with you much longer. When the xpac comes out I will be playing a horde blood elf. That was the only way Megafoo would play again is if we played Horde. And honestly I want to try it out, I have yet to play a Horde Character past level 7, and it will be nice not logging into Ironforge anymore. So we will probably both roll Mages.

I’m trying to think of cool names for us. There were two rogues on my old server named Zyk and Zya, so something similar.  Any ideas?

I’ll update everyone on the server once I pick one.

Horde leveling fucking sucks.  I HATE barrens leveling....  The tauren place is pretty cool for the first few levels, and you'll just kill yourself by the time you hit 20 from leveling in the barrens....

Personally no matter what my race, I always went over to azeroth and did all of the undead shit instead just because it's way cooler.  I guess you have that early ass instance at like level 14 you can do that's inside ogrimmar... 

I'm basically just warning you for the barrens......    it SUCKSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Prost on January 14, 2007, 11:46:59 PM
I'm in the best guild on Khadgar (US) Alliance side.

Scion. We're on Sapphiron. /flex
Sadly we won't see a KT kill before TBC.
I don't even know how you stand raiding.  I raided for like 2 weeks before I couldn't stand it anymore....  all of the people, people screwing up... it's just not worth it.

After a while I remember jumping around in Ironforge doing NOTHING, and getting all these tells to do group in the guild and outside the guild.... telling them "nah, I'm sorry kinda busy" and just continuing to jump around IF making sure I didn't step or land on any of the cracks in the floor......... yeah................

Fuck WoW... lol

Leveling is cool, exploiting = the only fun thing to do in the game.. like finding ways to mass kill mobs in a cheap ass way or bugging some instance to give you an awesome item...

and raiding is when the fun ends.  then you have to play with more than a few people, and if they don't suck... they're assholes.

I'd switch off and play with people who sucked ebcause they were nice, then I'd get fed up with their shit so I'd go play with better players... then all of the better players are total dicks so I'd go back.  90% of the time I didn't even play, I was just jumping in IF or talking on vent.

WoW is useless!
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: etiolate on January 15, 2007, 08:33:21 AM
Yeah Barrens sucks. I didn't find playing a Horde to be any better really. Durator is a rather bland starting area and Ogrimarr is by far my least liked City. Undercity is a little confusing at first, but when you get it, it works.  Ogrimarr is just way too big and spread out. UC, IF, SW and the Tauren city are all much easier to say, grab your mail, visit your profession trainer and hit the AH or bank.  Ogrimarr its a fucking adventure to do that.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: cubicle47b on January 15, 2007, 10:54:56 AM
Durotar is a horrible starting area.  It's just so bland and the Sen'jin Village quests suck.  Elwynn Forest and Tirisfal Glades are easily the best areas to start.

That said, Org is my favorite city in the game.  The big open area just within the gates is the best spot to meet / hang out in the game and the city has plenty to offer for a bored (and mounted) player after a raid.  And it lacks male humans and night elves which is a big plus.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: whiteACID on January 15, 2007, 11:34:12 AM
Well guys, looks like I won't be playing with you much longer. When the xpac comes out I will be playing a horde blood elf. That was the only way Megafoo would play again is if we played Horde. And honestly I want to try it out, I have yet to play a Horde Character past level 7, and it will be nice not logging into Ironforge anymore. So we will probably both roll Mages.

I’m trying to think of cool names for us. There were two rogues on my old server named Zyk and Zya, so something similar.  Any ideas?

I’ll update everyone on the server once I pick one.

Horde leveling fucking sucks.  I HATE barrens leveling....  The tauren place is pretty cool for the first few levels, and you'll just kill yourself by the time you hit 20 from leveling in the barrens....

Personally no matter what my race, I always went over to azeroth and did all of the undead shit instead just because it's way cooler.  I guess you have that early ass instance at like level 14 you can do that's inside ogrimmar... 

I'm basically just warning you for the barrens......    it SUCKSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!
Blood Elves start in the Eastern Kingdom and they will have their own starting area with quests no one (except beta) has done before.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: whiteACID on January 15, 2007, 11:36:21 AM
I'm in the best guild on Khadgar (US) Alliance side.

Scion. We're on Sapphiron. /flex
Sadly we won't see a KT kill before TBC.

Fuck WoW... lol


WoW is useless!


The game doesn't have more than 8 million subscribers because everyone shares the same opinion as you.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Prost on January 15, 2007, 12:24:00 PM
I'm in the best guild on Khadgar (US) Alliance side.

Scion. We're on Sapphiron. /flex
Sadly we won't see a KT kill before TBC.

Fuck WoW... lol


WoW is useless!


The game doesn't have more than 8 million subscribers because everyone shares the same opinion as you.

You have to realize I was kidding.  I personally think WoW is the greatest game of all time.  I just hate how you can spend so much time wasting away on it.  I played for like ~2 years (alpha/beta) and just spent way too much freakin time on it.  I know the amount of subscribers, and I know why they subscribe....  it's just annoying that I personally can sit here and still want to play, yet when I think about what I did most of the time in the game.....  I start getting depressed.  Weird eh?

Expansion sounds like fun, but I'll just ask my old friends in about a month or two when they have their 60s and have completed all the raid content.

I had to laugh at all of them when they realized all of the shit they were wearing became completely obsolete when the cap increased (I think like all 40-50 of them, excluding maybe 2-3 people, had the expansion beta).

The green gear was better than their purples... hahah.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: whiteACID on January 15, 2007, 01:17:47 PM
That's why I stopped playing on more than a casual level for the past 5-6 months. I mean, wtf, why? It's a waste of time, when the xpac comes out I can get green gear better than purples that took months of raiding to get. I used to be hardcore . But you really can play just casual with some of your friends, an hour or two a night every other night and have fun, just questing and pvp'ing and shit. It's a lot about community too.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Prost on January 15, 2007, 02:09:38 PM
That's why I stopped playing on more than a casual level for the past 5-6 months. I mean, wtf, why? It's a waste of time, when the xpac comes out I can get green gear better than purples that took months of raiding to get. I used to be hardcore . But you really can play just casual with some of your friends, an hour or two a night every other night and have fun, just questing and pvp'ing and shit. It's a lot about community too.
Since you're actually able to control it to 1-2 hours a night... which must mean ya don't instance much because 1-2 hours is like the wait-time for a raid.. lol, but as long as you can do that and have fun.. wow I salute you ;)  :pirate
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: cubicle47b on January 15, 2007, 02:59:36 PM
What guild has a 1-2 hour wait for a raid to start?  We showed up 10-15 minutes before the raid and first pull was usually on time and no more than 10 minutes late.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: whiteACID on January 15, 2007, 03:45:31 PM
Guilds that are still doing MC and ZG probably.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: etiolate on January 16, 2007, 07:17:10 AM
Quote
I know the amount of subscribers, and I know why they subscribe....  it's just annoying that I personally can sit here and still want to play, yet when I think about what I did most of the time in the game.....  I start getting depressed.  Weird eh?

I think it's becaue the mmorpg formula as it started was a really horrible setup. I quit WoW when it goes from fun to work, and that happens rather easily in the mmo formula.  It's just that it had been so bad, that wow's improvement of the formula was welcome in constrast.  But really, the carrot on a stick approach is crap and the artificial time extensions are horrible, too.  Other games are coming along and finding better ways to do things, but because online gaming communities normally run to just one game, you probably won't see a real step into 'good' quality with an MMO.  The subscrptions based fees is another deterrent as well.  The more artificial time extenders, the longer they have to play. 
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: etiolate on January 16, 2007, 04:25:18 PM
I had been looking for a recipe for Greep Whelp Armor and finally found one, and now my Druid is even more nutty.  I had 3 on me at once, and all 3 fell asleep. It's a great anti-rogue.

http://www.thottbot.com/?i=12103
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: TVC15 on January 16, 2007, 08:31:49 PM
Yo bitches, I rolled a drainy pally on your server.  The name is Grognard.  Hook me up, negroes!
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: TVC15 on January 16, 2007, 08:57:22 PM


SHUDDUP RACIST

Why, you'd have to be a NATIVE AMERICAN to think I'm a racist!
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on January 16, 2007, 09:33:25 PM
I'll play with you tomorrow hopefully; tonight I want to watch 24 plus I realized I left Limewire on and it downloaded a bunch of awesome porn I had on waitlist
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: TVC15 on January 16, 2007, 09:54:56 PM
Why the fuck are you using Limewire?  That's like as insecure as anything dude.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on January 16, 2007, 10:00:01 PM
Why the fuck are you using Limewire?  That's like as insecure as anything dude.

If something is corrupt it tells me. I've had no problems, although it does get glitchy and shit

What's better? I'd love to use something that didn't take up as much space
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: TVC15 on January 16, 2007, 10:52:04 PM
(http://indarktrees.com/pics/bcrtm.jpg)
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: etiolate on January 17, 2007, 12:45:15 AM
Can you guys help out? My druid is now using daggers but I don't have an off-hand item yet. Where do I get one? Its for stat boosting, I assume.

I can get one from a quest, but are there many items like this? What are they called?


Orbs.  There's probably some on at your AH under "held in off hand".

I'll send TVC some armor kits and bags. 

Has anyone seen if the dranei have a different looking ghost wolf form like tauren/ne have different cat forms?
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: TVC15 on January 17, 2007, 02:57:21 AM
If I turned down a guild invite tonite, apologies.  There are TONS of people in the Draenei area spamming out guild invites.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: etiolate on January 17, 2007, 02:59:23 AM
Yeah I sent you a guild invite.

My character is currently bugged in the middle of a flightpath to darkshire and it kicks me out everytime I log in.  So I'm waiting on a fix for that.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: TVC15 on January 17, 2007, 03:24:58 AM
Are you serious?  That's a pretty shitty bug.  Is there some way you can report it?
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: etiolate on January 17, 2007, 04:10:17 AM
I went on another character and made a ticket.  They just fixed it and put my Druid in Darnassus.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on January 17, 2007, 11:11:54 AM
Well if you're a nightelve I probably won't see you anytime soon lol
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: TVC15 on January 17, 2007, 12:49:13 PM
I'm a drainy you dumpster slut.  I hit level 10 before logging off last night.  Drainy starting area is most sexcellent.  I didn't want to stop playing.  So I didn't.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Prost on January 17, 2007, 05:22:00 PM
Guilds that are still doing MC and ZG probably.
well when everybody starting putting in times and everything was unorganized initially, that's when the shit took forever.

10-15 minute waits times sounds nice.. but I quit before anything organized happened.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: etiolate on January 17, 2007, 06:37:04 PM
I'm a drainy you dumpster slut.  I hit level 10 before logging off last night.  Drainy starting area is most sexcellent.  I didn't want to stop playing.  So I didn't.

What's their city like?
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: TVC15 on January 18, 2007, 12:07:46 PM
I'm a drainy you dumpster slut.  I hit level 10 before logging off last night.  Drainy starting area is most sexcellent.  I didn't want to stop playing.  So I didn't.

What's their city like?

Similar to belf's silvermoon, it's pretty, but it seems like it was designed to not be intuitive, or something.  It's not as bad as Silvermoon, though.

Here is my belf, in case you people aren't looking at the otehr thread.  I call her Buubserella:

(http://indarktrees.com/pics/buubs.jpg)
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: etiolate on January 19, 2007, 12:04:32 AM
what pix plz
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: etiolate on January 21, 2007, 06:51:34 PM
I'm the only still playin on the server pretty much. If anyone still wants invite let me know.

I've been avoiding turning lvl 40, because I want my pvp gear, which means grinding ally losses. I can win WSG, but the Arathi is another story. I can never make enough for the fear trinket either. I love how Blizzard changed the pvp system without fixing it. I did see my first belf in BGs yesterday, a 39 Hunter.  It was kind of disturbing.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on January 21, 2007, 11:54:30 PM
Pfft I play >:(

Just been busy recently
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: cubicle47b on January 23, 2007, 10:32:24 AM
I'm having great difficulty deciding whether I want a male Blood Elf mage or a female Blood Elf rogue.

WHAT THE FUCK DO I DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Kill yourself.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: cubicle47b on January 23, 2007, 01:07:53 PM
YER WELCUM
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: TVC15 on January 24, 2007, 03:42:06 PM
I'm the only still playin on the server pretty much. If anyone still wants invite let me know.

I've been avoiding turning lvl 40, because I want my pvp gear, which means grinding ally losses. I can win WSG, but the Arathi is another story. I can never make enough for the fear trinket either. I love how Blizzard changed the pvp system without fixing it. I did see my first belf in BGs yesterday, a 39 Hunter.  It was kind of disturbing.

I've been playing with my Drainy.  Usually an hour or so a night, at midnight PST.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on January 24, 2007, 09:54:55 PM
Blackfathom Deeps :bow
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: whiteACID on January 24, 2007, 10:12:21 PM
Speaking of Blackfathom Deeps

(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y6/mssmojorising/vaiyamage.jpg)
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: etiolate on January 25, 2007, 12:45:34 AM
Yah is that Grognard? I saw that pop online and couldn't remember if that was you or not.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on January 25, 2007, 12:22:17 PM
I'll have the full story later, but I went there with a 5 person group between the levels of 25-30 (I'm lv29). It was very easy to me, but the XP was AMAZING
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on January 25, 2007, 01:22:36 PM
Hit level 20 last night. AM AWESOME DRAENEI WARRIOR
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Van Cruncheon on January 25, 2007, 01:51:08 PM
Level 20 decimated the 2g I earned. I need a new stave BAD!
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on January 25, 2007, 06:45:51 PM
It seems like those Draeni things are EVERYWHERE now lol. There were 2 in my group last night lol

But yeah the Blackfathom Deeps were easy to me in terms of the enemies we fought against, but my group was very hard to get along with. When I play WoW I like being nice to everyone in hopes that they'll return the favor. But last night it seemed like everyone was acting like a dumbass.

I was invited to join this group planning on doing the Blackfathom Deep and since I had three quests in that area I agreed. But once we got in the cave I saw the group was being run poorly. There was this one DUMBASS in the group who kept needing on every freaking thing we found. I've never seen anyone act like that lol.

Draeni Priest: God dammit STOP NEEDING everything
Draeni Hunter: I'm sorry lol, I didn't think anyone needed it

Motherfucker you could have ASKED.  :lol

So the group leader decided to kick him out the group in the middle of the cave so he wouldn't be able to get out by himself lol. After that we got this new person, but even more issues popped up. To me he seemed like a good guy, and I feel it's never a good idea to kick a paladin out of your group...but this guy was a dumbass. He'd watch everyone fighting and not help, then after the battle he'd buff everyone wtf. You can't do two things at the same time??! So he got kicked out lol.

Finally we got to our quest (kill Lord Krelis and take his head). So at that point I started looking around the room and then out of nowhere BAM there's like 10 huge ass turtles in the room. Apparently I triggered some kind of booby trap...and got everyone killed :( :lol

But we were able to get back to the area and clean it out luckily. After we left that room we entered this room above a body of water where this huge three headed hydra was shuffling around. Holy shit. I should have taken a pic. I was able to keep it's attention while everyone hit it with spells, and in the end we killed him pretty easily.

I bet I would have had a better time doing the dungeon if I was a lower level. Basically there wasn't much challenge in the area; most of the enemies were lv22-26
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on January 25, 2007, 06:55:13 PM
Level 20 decimated the 2g I earned. I need a new stave BAD!

This is why I rolled on a server with my 60! Even if you just cool young dude with gold and bags, boy howdy! Fun times.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Stocky on January 26, 2007, 10:16:12 PM
Wow PeeDee is only level 29? I bought WoW two weeks ago and my Paladin is level 26, my Druid level 23. And I spent a lot of time cooking and fishing, herbaling and alcheming with my Paladin.

Anyways. I NEED TO FIGURE OUT A GOOD NAME FOR MY FEMALE BLOOD ELF ROGUE!!!!

Spicoli
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on January 26, 2007, 11:56:13 PM
Wow PeeDee is only level 29? I bought WoW two weeks ago and my Paladin is level 26, my Druid level 23. And I spent a lot of time cooking and fishing, herbaling and alcheming with my Paladin.

Anyways. I NEED TO FIGURE OUT A GOOD NAME FOR MY FEMALE BLOOD ELF ROGUE!!!!

I play rather casually, and recently I haven't been playing much. Usually I play 2 hours a day or so
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: etiolate on January 27, 2007, 04:22:29 PM
Leveling very fast is kind of scary to me. I like diversifying, so I quest/level, but do my profession stuff and BGs. And for the past week it was grinding out gold for my mount. The economy on this server is certainlya buyer's market.  I had to sell Shadowskin gloves at 8g when they're priced at 50g on my old server and sell for at least 20g normally according to ye olde thottbot.

My Druid at 43
(http://www.mapored.com/etiolate/emptybox5.jpg)
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on January 27, 2007, 09:20:19 PM
Today I was in Don Modr again. Basically the area is covered with elite Dark Iron Dwarves who show no mercy to passers by. Yesterday I joined a pretty decent group and wound up finishing the big kill quest in the area (all in all we had to kill around 30 of the dwarves).

The area also holds an elite quest in which you have to kill this dwarven mage and take his ear. I couldn't find anyone to help me yesterday, and today I started with little luck too. Eventually I joined a group with 2 rogues, but rather quickly it became apparent that this wasn't a good idea. One of the rogues was lv38 while the other was 26; because of the low level he wound up arrgo'ing everything in the area on many occassions. Eventually we started pulling 1-2 dwarves out of the area and to this wagon that was surrounded by NPCs who actually would fire at the enemies.

But alas, we couldn't get into the base to kill the mage. It sucked because everytime we tried I was the only person who died. Eventually I stopped using Taunt and other tank standards, but the enemies still kept attacking me solely. Once again I was reminded just how important healers are in the World of Warcraft. We never found one, but we eventually got another warrior to help us, and after 2-3 tries we got the ear.

What followed next was basically me following the group around as we finished off quests in the Wetlands.


I plan on playing more tonight and getting my damn profession skills up to par, which are currently embarrassing.  :lol
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: etiolate on January 27, 2007, 11:27:40 PM
I use a dagger for my Druid. Much better.

Also how do you get the PvP Epic set or something for female Druids? How do you get those sets? Is it insanely hard and rare or is it somewhat difficult but doable when you're level 60-70?

I like staves and maces.  If I go dagger, I have to carry a goofy off hand and the daggers don't nromally carry intellect or healing boosts.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on January 28, 2007, 10:07:34 PM
Well my 30 day free trial finally expired. I have the gamers cards, but....I don't think I'm going to renew yet. Tomorrow I absolutely HAVE to do some homework, and the rest of the week I need to catch up. Although I don't have any tests for another 3 weeks I still want to get shit done.

I'll renew this upcoming Thursday, after school
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Disposable White Guy on January 29, 2007, 04:30:04 PM
This is what all the cool kids do in WoW

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=F99YSU54
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: etiolate on January 29, 2007, 09:37:59 PM
Thanks to whiteacid for the gold.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on January 30, 2007, 01:33:57 AM
Hit level 24 tonight, god damn a warrior can be a beast.

(http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/1399/auchps2.jpg)

Its funny playing a ranged hunter and playing a Warrior, both are pretty different. I kept waiting for raptor strike to cooldown as fast as heroic strike lol.



Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on January 30, 2007, 02:28:08 AM
lol I used to have that armor
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on January 30, 2007, 02:51:01 AM
Fortified, really the best you can get at level 24 that isnt blue.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on January 30, 2007, 03:48:17 AM
Damn lv24? You might surpass me since I'm not renewing my account until Thursday :-\
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on January 30, 2007, 01:29:58 PM
I dunno, after solo-ing two 60s I sorta have the quest grind down to a science. I have a hunter I started last week a few days after I started my warrior at level 14 too.

Speaking of...well ill just add this. How are jewelcrafters making money. Im a miner, and i've been making tons of gold off BRONZE, motherfucking BRONZE. I've seen buyouts as high as 4 gold go. I usually undercut at 1.5 - 2 gold per stack and sell it rather quickly. Copper sells stupid fast too. Silver even faster.

Point being I see all the shit they make from the stacks and they sell it for so cheap I wonder where they actually make money. I mean, im making gobs of money for very little effort.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Van Cruncheon on January 30, 2007, 01:51:58 PM
change this title to EVILBORE SEZ WOW and sticky it!
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on January 30, 2007, 01:56:57 PM
PDark: Would you mind if I converted this into a stickied WoW topic? Im tired of deciding where to put my WoW shit.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Disposable White Guy on January 30, 2007, 02:59:41 PM
I dunno, after solo-ing two 60s I sorta have the quest grind down to a science. I have a hunter I started last week a few days after I started my warrior at level 14 too.

Speaking of...well ill just add this. How are jewelcrafters making money. Im a miner, and i've been making tons of gold off BRONZE, motherfucking BRONZE. I've seen buyouts as high as 4 gold go. I usually undercut at 1.5 - 2 gold per stack and sell it rather quickly. Copper sells stupid fast too. Silver even faster.

Point being I see all the shit they make from the stacks and they sell it for so cheap I wonder where they actually make money. I mean, im making gobs of money for very little effort.

The bread and butter's in 60+ mercantilism.  I probably dropped about 350g twinking jewelcrafting to 300, but between mining, prospecting, cutting, and doing an instance here and there, I've made triple that back.  People will spend insane amounts of money on cut green quality gems, and a literal fuckton on the blue stuff.  There's one I can make that has a chance to make your next spell cast an instant every time you cast a spell, and the mats are pretty easy to come by.  I don't charge for it, but people throw around 100g at me whenever I cut the thing, because they're just like that.

Plus, getting a stranglehold on the raiders from your server will help, since a lot of their shit is socketed and they need ubar bufz 4 purpz and all that.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on January 30, 2007, 03:20:36 PM
Im just really lazy when it comes to MAKING things with my raw goods. Its easier for me just to mine and gather shit.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: etiolate on January 30, 2007, 04:01:42 PM
Mining makes so much money because it is used by 3 professions. Once you get to 30s, you can go in a circle around Alterac mountain grinding ogres and mining all the veins.  I made a lot of money off of selling tin, silver and iron that way,
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: etiolate on January 31, 2007, 04:38:34 AM
I have two favorite flag runs as a druid.

The first was when whiteacid was playing with me and the horde had 4 or 5 in base and I was running solo.  I thought it would be tricky, but they were just so bad.  I steallthed into the tunnel, shifted out of form, used their speed boost, flew in and pass them, clicked the flag, ran out, switched to cat, dash and ran all the way back untouched. This is only great because I can imagine all of them sitting on D and then watching the flag just zip right out.

The second was tonight, even though it was in a losing effort. I normally always run right, out of the flag room to enemy gy and then up our ramp.  It makes them have to go across the map and most players are so used to mid and tunnel runs it normally works.  This time though I saw about 4 Horde go out that side and I think one might have notice me stealth in.  So I grabbed flag, went tunnel and found it empty, found their speed boost, shifted to bear form barreling out of the tunnel just to see a lot of horde infront of me at mid field.  So I switched cat form, dashed mad to the right and flew by them, then to travel form, natures swiftness instant heal and score.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: whiteACID on January 31, 2007, 10:56:34 AM
I miss pvp'ing with you...we were a hella of a team.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: whiteACID on January 31, 2007, 10:57:46 AM
btw, did you get my mail?
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: etiolate on January 31, 2007, 04:01:42 PM
btw, did you get my mail?

Yup

Quote
Thanks to whiteacid for the gold.[
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: etiolate on February 01, 2007, 01:58:47 AM
(http://www.mapored.com/etiolate/emptybox6.jpg)
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 01, 2007, 02:01:23 AM
(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e86/PhoenixDark1/posin.jpg)

I was in a group doing Gnomeragan or whatever for like 3 hours, and we only finished ONE QUEST. God damn that place is fucking huge. I'll post the story tomorrow (well...actually today lol) but dammit.

A story of NINJAS, POTIONS, AND DISCONNECTS
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: whiteACID on February 01, 2007, 03:07:43 PM
I hate Gnomer and refuse to do it.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: cubicle47b on February 01, 2007, 04:59:04 PM
That's fucking sad.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on February 01, 2007, 05:14:58 PM
I could never get a group for gnomer, everyone hated it ;(
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: etiolate on February 01, 2007, 08:59:16 PM
This Druid is the first character I've finished Gnomer on.  Actually I want in the backfoor and beat the boss the first run, then went back later and soloed the other quests and bosses. Triprunner Dungarees are worth getting through it for.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 02, 2007, 03:21:42 AM
GOD DAMN

Well today ends as my second day of trying and failing to finish Gnomer with a group. This time we got within view of the final boss, but before we could fight him a bunch of mobs respawned behind us and OWNED us. I'm too tired to go on, but this was a good group. One of the best I've been involved with in ages
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on February 02, 2007, 03:41:39 AM
Gnomer sucks dude :(
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Disposable White Guy on February 02, 2007, 11:20:47 AM
Just skip it and get to the mid/late-30s for Scarlet Monastery.

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Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on February 02, 2007, 01:35:41 PM
Scarlet ftw. I got my hunter to level 17, my Warrior is still level 24. I love the crab as a pet. I hate how everyones using ravagers as pets. I hate ravagers. Crab power!
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 02, 2007, 02:15:04 PM
We got so close though :(

I started searching for a group doing Gnomer and eventually was invited to enter a group featuring two...rogues. Now I don't know about you, but rogues piss me off like no other class. It seems like every rogue I meet thinks he's so badass because OMG LOOK AT MY RED SCARF FROM JC PENNEYS AND LOL I CAN DOO 150 DAMAGE >:(

They always challenge me to duels and always kick my ass, mainly because they're so damn fast; Goinio must have arthiritis from being born in the snow. Anyway, we found a couple more members(a low level paladin and a druid) and entered the area. At first everything was going great. I must note that this was around...9PM or so. 15 minutes later the most asinine (and powerful) rogue in the group just disappeared out of thin air. I swear, I didn't see the "dumbass has left the group" note at the bottom of the screen or anything - he was just gone.

Because there's no way to beat this area without a full party we had to once again leave the dungeon and search for members. We got real lucky and found a SWEET lv30 priestess as well as another druid. With our new members we journeyed into the unknown again. Now it was like...9:30PM.

The enemies in the area are very powerful elites. It seemed like we were constantly fighting 3-5 deep mobs at every turn. I shared tank duties with one of the druids. Basically she would do most of the damage while I would stand in front of all the enemies rapidly pusing the "Tab" button to cycle through enemies and sunder their armor. I'd also make sure to try to keep arrgo by Tauting as many enemies as possible and shouting while running into the middle of mobs. This worked very well; this was a good group. We died a couple times early but it wasn't a big deal because we'd just re-enter the instance and no repops would be in the way.

As we got further into the area the group seemed to get more reckless. At this point we'd be attacking groups of lv28 mobs and barely surviving, only to do it again.

A couple days ago Etiole warned me that deep inside Gnomer there were dwarves who dropped very powerful mines. I tried telling the group this, and everyone listened except one of the druids

Me: Hey guys remember there are mines down here. Destroy them
Druid Dumbass: Actually if you don't step on them they won't blow up
Me: What the fuck? You have to destroy them. I WAS HERE LAST NIGHT
Druid Dumbass: LOL calm down shorty. Besides I have 1050 hit points lolz.
Rogue: ...
Me: ...

So we go down there and everyone is trying to kill the dwarves while watching the mines and the dumbass druid is running around arrgo'ing the entire area. Before we know it there are scores of mines on the ground then out of nowhere BAM. WTF I turn around and our priestess is DEAD. So then I try running away only to see the dumbass druid get hit by a mine and fall off the higher level we were on to his death. Dumbass :lol

I'm running around and then get BAM I'm down from a mine. God damn you'd think that after watching so many Vietnam movies I'd know how to survive such an area.

Dumbass Druid: Damn if I didn't fall I could have gotten away
Rogue: Mother fucker you got us killed
Dumbass Druid: I didn't tell you to run into the mines lol
Me: ...

But we had to keep him in the group. As MAF said, it's hard to find people who want to do Gnomer. Anyway we got back to that area quickly; there were no repops luckily. With a new plan we were able to kill the dwarves and get to the final area. We opened the door, and at the end of the hall we saw the final boss. But there were like 5 elites in the way. We attacked them but then I switch the camera and notice our priestess is getting owned in the back by a respawned group of mods. Rather quickly our tank druid died. At that point I died too. Damn we got so close.

We decided to try again and started running back as ghosts...then once we've entered the instance we see that our priestess RESPAWNED AT THE GRAVEYARD.

Rogue: Why did you do that?
Priestess: I need a break, and some smokes
Dumbass Druid: I have a meeting in the morning...
Rogue: We can try one more time!
Me: Definitely

Finally she gets to the instance, but once we turn a corner we notice the entire area has repopped. At that point we had to give up. It was 2:30AM...god damn.

I need to try again tonight. I put the rogue and priestess on my friends list, and hopefully they'll be on tonight. Despite the dumbass druid we were a good group.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: whiteACID on February 02, 2007, 03:30:34 PM
Lol because rogue isn't overused
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: etiolate on February 02, 2007, 05:03:15 PM
I did Mauradon for the first time on any character yesterday. Managed to get the only druid gear to drop and that was good.  The only odd bit was that there was a Paladin and a Warrior in the group and I was asked to tank. I said I would, but the Warrior would be much better at it. It turns out the Warrior just didn't want to tank, which means he didn't want to have to carry a shield.  So I did the tanking, but the warrior in Fury mode out-aggroed me most of the time.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 02, 2007, 08:14:32 PM
I did Mauradon for the first time on any character yesterday. Managed to get the only druid gear to drop and that was good.  The only odd bit was that there was a Paladin and a Warrior in the group and I was asked to tank. I said I would, but the Warrior would be much better at it. It turns out the Warrior just didn't want to tank, which means he didn't want to have to carry a shield.  So I did the tanking, but the warrior in Fury mode out-aggroed me most of the time.

I was just about to ask a question concerning this. In every group play instance I've done I have used a two handed axe. The one I currently have is like 68-108 damage or something like that. Awhile ago I got this really powerful shield as a quest reward. As a tank, would it be best for me to use a shield and ditch the uber powerful axe? I only have one sword, and it's signifigantly less powerful than my axe. But at the time time, when I'm not using a shield by defense is like 1230. When I use it my defense is around 1860.

?

It just always seemed to me that as a tank my job was also to keep the enemy arrgo any way possible. If I'm doing 100-150 damage with each hit on an enemy that's going to get its attention. With my sword that's not possible.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: etiolate on February 02, 2007, 09:05:53 PM
Well I've seen Warriors tank with 2h weapons.  It's good to keep the shield around though, for tanking a tough boss or a tight situation you can switch between the two.  I don't tank much though, so I'm not the best source of knowledge.

BTW the Darkmoon faire is coming on our server and being new to wow you should check it out.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: cubicle47b on February 03, 2007, 03:01:07 AM
Tanks use shields for better damage mitigation.  In lower level dungeons you might not take enough damage for it to matter (and with gear at that level it might not make a difference).  Later on, it's necessary unless you're extremely overgeared for the instance.  The way you keep aggro despite low damage with your weapon is through smart use of your abilities.  The shield block + revenge combo is your god, use it.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: etiolate on February 03, 2007, 03:34:22 AM
Mauradon is too fucking long.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Disposable White Guy on February 03, 2007, 12:43:41 PM
Lol because rogue isn't overused
I hardly see any night elf rogues on this server.

They're all level 70 and farming gold for selling to the AMERICAN PIGS.  If you wanted to be unique, you should've made like a draenei priest or a female dwarf paladin or something.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 03, 2007, 01:54:19 PM
Tanks use shields for better damage mitigation.  In lower level dungeons you might not take enough damage for it to matter (and with gear at that level it might not make a difference).  Later on, it's necessary unless you're extremely overgeared for the instance.  The way you keep aggro despite low damage with your weapon is through smart use of your abilities.  The shield block + revenge combo is your god, use it.

I'll use the shield later tonight in Gnomer and see how it goes. I guess I've always been of the thought that when fighting elites, the best thing to do is to give out as much damage as possible in order to kill them quickly.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on February 03, 2007, 02:52:43 PM
I solo all the time so fuck shields! ARMS FTW
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 03, 2007, 03:11:38 PM
I solo all the time so fuck shields! ARMS FTW

Do you honestly solo dungeons tho? :lol
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on February 04, 2007, 02:16:09 AM
(http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/9769/crabcakeod4.jpg)

(http://img365.imageshack.us/img365/6648/crab2op1.jpg)

crabcake takes on ALL CHALLENGERS
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: cubicle47b on February 04, 2007, 02:31:44 AM
Mini-Nefarian, eh?  Does it fear?
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on February 04, 2007, 02:39:13 AM
its probably the easiest elite i've fought haha. CrabCake ALMOST solo'ed it. What boggles me is there is a level req of 19 on the quest and labels it as a group quest lol. Course my pet absorbs 40% of the dmg so it probably makes it look easy. I remember it being easy with my warrior tho.

To be honest every 'boss' in draenei land is pretty laughable.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Prost on February 04, 2007, 06:26:02 AM
its probably the easiest elite i've fought haha. CrabCake ALMOST solo'ed it. What boggles me is there is a level req of 19 on the quest and labels it as a group quest lol. Course my pet absorbs 40% of the dmg so it probably makes it look easy. I remember it being easy with my warrior tho.

To be honest every 'boss' in draenei land is pretty laughable.
LOL OH MY GOD LAUGHABLE!
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on February 04, 2007, 12:52:19 PM
Following my posts around at 3am is actually pretty sad too.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 04, 2007, 01:01:31 PM
So I started using the shield yesterday and it works very well. I take a lot of damage now lol. I tried this while in Gnomer for like the 5th time, and guess what? For like the 5th time the group disbanded before we got close to the end. Fuck Gnomer, I'm not going back until I get to a higher level. I'm lv32 now. The reason I want to do it is because the last boss drops these really good mail pants that I want.

So instead of wasting my time arguing with distinguished mentally-challenged group members I decided to run a business last night. I bought and mined a bunch of ores, as well as other stuff, and started increasing my blacksmith skillz. But instead of selling things to NPCs, I decided to put them up for auction. I put up some Runed Chain Pants (113 defense) for around 10s. When I got back on WoW I saw that all of them had been taken. So now I decided to INFLATE THE PRICES. I need money and I'm willing to overcharge shit. If someone is flimsy enough to pay $15 a month to play a videogame than they're flimsy enough to buy 20 bars of bronze for 35 SILVER :violin

Before I went to bed I put up even more pants, as well as the awesome 2H axe I used. The suggested sell price was 60s, but I put it up for 5g; it does a bunch of damage. I'm going to sign on in a few to see if anyone fell for it

Pretty soon I'll change my name to Goinstein
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on February 04, 2007, 01:27:51 PM
(http://img385.imageshack.us/img385/337/l33tuh9.jpg)

Lol l337 haxx0r armor rating.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 04, 2007, 02:21:08 PM
Lv 25 wtf

How the hell did you do that? My armor without my shield is like 1260 (with the shield it's 1850) and I'm level 32 >:(
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 04, 2007, 02:53:14 PM
FUCK BOTH OF YOU








 :(
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Prost on February 04, 2007, 02:54:12 PM
Following my posts around at 3am is actually pretty sad too.
Did you lose your dick 20 years ago playing pong or something because god damn you get butt hurt.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on February 04, 2007, 03:20:03 PM
Fuck shield, ill stick two handed and go for the massive crits at end game omg omg. Anyway I dunno I use heavy armor kits, that helps a lot...I buy equipment very often too. If I dont have the best at AH there's PROBLEMz.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 04, 2007, 03:45:11 PM
Before I can upgrade like that I need money.

But like I said, the final boss at Gnomer drops this very awesome leg mail with like 350 armor (soulbound). I want that so bad.

Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on February 04, 2007, 03:50:58 PM
Im telling ya, take up mining and get in on the mineral market. I make betweeen 1.5 - 3 gold per stack of BRONZE, and dont get me started on how fast my silver has been selling.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: etiolate on February 04, 2007, 06:01:35 PM
PD I can give you armor kits to up your armor.  What is the average level of your equipment?
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on February 04, 2007, 06:41:36 PM
Armor Kits are pretty essential ya
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 04, 2007, 11:55:24 PM
Im telling ya, take up mining and get in on the mineral market. I make betweeen 1.5 - 3 gold per stack of BRONZE, and dont get me started on how fast my silver has been selling.

Mineral market wtf? You mean at an auction house? I recently sold some bronze for like 30s. People will buy it at 3g? :lol

eti: I'll check tonight when I play
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on February 05, 2007, 12:11:12 AM
the jewelcrafter trade has made mineral prices skyrocket, its pretty absurd really. Got 75 silver for a stack of COPPER today..TWICE! Then I sold some bronze for 1.5 gold cause I was underselling the tons of people trying to get 4 gold lol.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 05, 2007, 12:15:07 AM
Holy shit I had no idea of this. And I just sold a bunch of bronze too :(

I'll mine some more tonight and sell it
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: TVC15 on February 05, 2007, 12:17:28 AM
So, is leatherworking really useless?  Because I haven't made anything good yet.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 05, 2007, 12:20:00 AM
You can get mages/priests to pay lots of silver/gold for some of the better leather armor
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on February 05, 2007, 12:25:32 AM
really you make better money early mid game with just raw materials. The actualy creation trades dont become money makers till late game when your skill is high enough to make stuff people actually want.

PD: Just do a search on AH for bronze bars and undersell everyone by say..10 silver. You can chance pricing with them but then it REALLY depends on demand.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: etiolate on February 05, 2007, 03:22:49 AM
The economy is a little slow and low on his server, so I'd say underprice.

My leatherowrking is 265. It's really good for me as a Druid and I have a lot of non-AH repeat customers.  That is, people who come to me to craft things for them.  Since people do the non-producing professions like mining and skinning, and then sell the materials on AH to make gold, they need someone to actually make their stuff eventually. I make money selling rogue/hunter gear and armor kits almost always sell on the AH. The blues rogue gear always sells. On older servers you can get 15g for Shadowskin gloves.  Before that you can sell Toughened Leather Gloves and Barbaric Bracers. Also, an Ally quest requires Hillmans cloak, so you can always sell those easily. One of the more pricey leatherworkign items is the Helm of Fire, which I just learned, but the materials are hard to get and expensive to buy. You can then turn around and sell it at a high price. I'm guessing maybe up to 50g.

Early items that sold for me:
armor kits
+agility gear
fletcher gloves

20-30s stuff that sells:
barbaric bracers
barbaric shoulderpads
Hillman's Cloak
Toughened Leather Gloves
Shadowskin Gloves
rogue sets(dark leather)
Green Whelp Armor(recipe is a drop, materials are in Swamp of Sorrrows, but this always sells and is great pvp gear)

I don't make and sell the +agility pants at this level much, because the Triprunner Dungarees from the Ally Gnomer quest are better than pretty much anything for many levels, so demand for rogue and hunter pants is low.

Right now anything i make of the Mail armor variety for hunters sells quickly. So the Scorpid sets work. I've outfitted most of the druids on my server, since I can make the Voodoo items and things like Wolfshead Helm.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: etiolate on February 05, 2007, 07:14:50 AM
I was ready to strangle this dumbass hunter in wsg.  We're already up 2-0, both teams have the other's flag and we're trying to get ours back.  Horde are all by gy with the flag, they have a priest and I'm trying to get everyone to go as a group with the rogues and druids taking out priest then killing fc, but this Hunter keeps going WHO IS THE PRIEST WHERE IS THE PRIEST? I'm ilke, "the priest that is always standing right by the FC?" And then he asks me, the druid, to put a mark ont he priest.  Fucking idiot. I didn't even feel like telling him Hunter's Mark is a Hunter's only skill. Last I saw he ran in against the entire horde team by himself and got killed, he quit, then our rogue came in and did exactly what I was asking and we won.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: whiteACID on February 05, 2007, 08:38:25 AM
I hate doing Arathi Basin with nubs. It pisses me off when we are up and then people just leave a base undefended because they want to get more kills ending in our loss.

but the horde win a majority of the time, it's good to be Horde
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 05, 2007, 02:01:07 PM
Finally got to the last boss in Gnomer and killed it. Unlike the previous times this time I joined a great group; the priest who I tried a Gnomer with a couple times previously was the group leader. We died around three times collectively but never had to deal with repops. There's actually a nice shortcut jump you can make which allows you to skip lots of needless trogg annoyances.

I finally got the pants I've been creaming over for three days; they're pretty awesome. :hyper
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on February 05, 2007, 02:06:48 PM
Im telling ya, Alliance sucks at Warsong and Arathi because they are better at raiding. This is why Alliance is better at Alterac. Raid gear. That will of course change now that raid gear < pvp gear lololol.

Too bad my latest character is alliance, ill have to try to deal :(
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 05, 2007, 06:14:23 PM
Speaking of Arathi, I discovered it today

(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e86/PhoenixDark1/Arathi.jpg)

Mere minutes after taking that pic I went inside Stormgrade expecting it to be contested like Lakeshire, only to be killed by invisible rogue elites within seconds. :lol

I died around 3 times against the horde today. Shortly after entering Arathi I saw this lv29 undead warrior running around in circles so I chased him. I was pretty confident that I could own him and so I started building up rage/getting potions out. Then he disappeared behind this rock, and when I turned the corner OMG lv40 tauren warrior and a lv36 shaman. IT WAS A TRAP. I got killed rather quickly, and the lv29 warrior laughed at my corpse! >:(

I found him again later, and he decided to face me one on one. But he killed me wtf. I'm lv32 and I couldn't beat a lv29 warrior. My problem seems to be that I stand around too much, like I'm fighting NPCs
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Van Cruncheon on February 05, 2007, 06:24:20 PM
he might also be twinked by his guild, but chances are you're just a NUB
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 05, 2007, 06:38:20 PM
 :(

I've maybe won one PVP match against a horde player, and that was kinda cheap because I delivered the finishing blow. In duels I rarely win either. I don't like PVP :-\
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: etiolate on February 05, 2007, 09:58:34 PM
I took PD on a pvp trip to Hammerfall.  I think I got him killed a lot, but the lad needed some HKs.

Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: whiteACID on February 05, 2007, 10:32:34 PM
FUKKIN GEEZUS

I need some help.

I've deleted my level 17 night elf rogue. This is the third time I've deleted my night elf.

I just can't take it. I can't be satisfied with another character anymore... there's always something that makes me just want to quit. Is this because it's not dependant on my class or race, but because it's my second character? I don't know... but I just want another character. You know, to switch a bit now and then.

Never thought about deleting my paladin for even a split sec. Akanthus rox. :-[
roll a mage
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 05, 2007, 11:46:41 PM
I took PD on a pvp trip to Hammerfall.  I think I got him killed a lot, but the lad needed some HKs.



"A lot" is an understatement :lol :-*

We basically hung out towards the entrance to Hammerfall, picking on horde as they came and went. Eti was doing a good job with the healing imo but my low level made it harder. I just couldn't stay alive. At first I tried staying in defense stance but then I needed to use hamstring...so I changed to battle stance. Didn't work much.

At least I got an HK. After Eti left I was able to get two more with the help of a couple players; we got owned so many times though.

And I showcased my stupidity with Eti lol

Eti: So what's your honor rating for today?
Me: Let me check...hmm I guess that's -7
Eti: Actually that's probably a sign for approx. (~)
Me: ...I'm distinguished mentally-challenged

 :-\
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Van Cruncheon on February 05, 2007, 11:52:17 PM
I got 62 HK in Arathi the other night. Not a great night, but frost rooting and arcane spam = guaranteed 3rd place on the leaderboard.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 06, 2007, 12:41:13 AM
I got to lv33 also :hyper

This is a very good area to solo/grind. I absolutely love everything about the area except the horde presense; reminds me of Hyrule Field lulz

I've made a lot of progress in my blacksmith/mining skills over the last three days, during which I've put huge emphasis on them. What are some areas with lots of minerals to mine? Redridge Mountains has a lot of copper mines as well as a few tin ones.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on February 06, 2007, 01:59:17 AM
My GOD the PVP tonight was rancid until the last fight in warsong. Basically horde side for two rounds had 4 or even 5 rogues and a few priests, basically each rogue would ambush a second after the other one a warrior then they would all do eviscerate n shit. Didnt even have time to fight em. You could never tell where that many rogues were at any one time. I ended up following two mages around cause they cast a lot of arcane explosion.

And my god the twinks. Ive never seen a level 29 take so much damage or dish out as much. The third and last round was actually fair. Very few twinks, only TWO rogues, if that..Only ended up with 54hks for the night, only maybe 7-10 of those were killing blows. The first two rounds didnt allow for much fighting back at all, but the third round rocked. Kept getting in two-hander fights with this tauren warrior. It felt awesome, both of us in the tunnel just DUKEN' it out with damage numbers popping up all over.

Actually I think the biggest help in the third round were the healers that HEALED.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: etiolate on February 06, 2007, 05:28:37 AM
Healing is the only way to be effective in the cool young dude levels as a non-cool young dude,  Heal your twinks so they outlast the others and pray to god their twinsk are too dumb to realize it.

I finally got enough honor for the damned fear trinket.  Now I have none left for my gear. Does it matter much if yuo go into the 50 bracket as a low 50 level? I want to level, but I want honor.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on February 06, 2007, 09:16:00 AM
yeah I need my god damned trinket, I just started pvping with my warrior and fuck if im not getting feared every 5 fuck seconds
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: whiteACID on February 06, 2007, 01:30:30 PM
Played the best game of my life in WSG last night. Capped 2 flags. Ran into the alliance base frost nova and blast waved everyone. Blinked out and popped a speed potion to get away from the hunter following me. Polymorphed a rogue mid-field, another blink and a frost nova to stop a warrior and a rogue near the tunnel of my base.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: whiteACID on February 06, 2007, 01:34:27 PM
I want to be the best pvp mage ever. I think I can do it, I'm pretty damn good.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 06, 2007, 02:07:40 PM
I want to be the best pvp mage ever. I think I can do it, I'm pretty damn good.

(http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/4151/ash10fm9.jpg)
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on February 07, 2007, 02:01:17 AM
Ok, I havent been a warrior long, so I wanna ask the ALL IMPORTANT QUESTION.

What in GODS name do I do against a ranged hunter? Is there anything? Aside from running away? Anyway 2 of my 4 bgs tonight were a lot of fun, but a couple of them were full of so many belf twinks with dumb wapanese names I wanted to barf. Im sorry but a level 29 pally should not be soaking 3 mages direct fire, thats dumb.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 07, 2007, 02:06:01 AM
When people attack me I bow and ask them to stop. It has worked.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on February 07, 2007, 02:07:56 AM
haha, I dunno, battlegrounds are pretty nuts. They might not hear me over the belf rogues slicing into me.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Van Cruncheon on February 07, 2007, 02:29:27 AM
you can't ask them to stop since /say turns into gibberish between factions! nice try...nub!
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Van Cruncheon on February 07, 2007, 02:30:35 AM
I couldn't believe the twinking on that fuckin' belf pally. Me and two gnome mages were spammin' arcane missles/fireblast like mad and she shrugged it all off. LAME. I wound up just rooting and sheeping her, but then her friends arrived. BOO.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: etiolate on February 07, 2007, 03:43:54 AM
belf pallies are the worst
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 07, 2007, 05:10:10 AM
you can't ask them to stop since /say turns into gibberish between factions! nice try...nub!

Bah they know what I mean. Usually I bow whenever I see a horde because I know I'll get owned. Today I saw a horde shaman getting owned by an ogre so I saved him, and then bowed. Later when I was in Boulder'gash or whatever I was fighting an ogre and he helped me a bit. Badass.

Ruzbah gave me the idea

Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on February 07, 2007, 09:55:00 AM
dont be a pussy for the horde, kill em
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: whiteACID on February 07, 2007, 10:33:50 AM
Ok, I havent been a warrior long, so I wanna ask the ALL IMPORTANT QUESTION.

What in GODS name do I do against a ranged hunter? Is there anything? Aside from running away? Anyway 2 of my 4 bgs tonight were a lot of fun, but a couple of them were full of so many belf twinks with dumb wapanese names I wanted to barf. Im sorry but a level 29 pally should not be soaking 3 mages direct fire, thats dumb.
You have to keep hamstring and piercing howl on them. Intercept if they get the range on you, which they will do by feigning death and laying a freezing trap. Intimidating shout the pet, hamstring always on the hunter, piercing howl (fury spec only) if he gets off hamstring. If a hunter can't get away from you he will not be able to kill you.

Warriors are actually the hardest class for a hunter to beat, so if you are always losing to them then you sux lol
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: whiteACID on February 07, 2007, 10:35:28 AM
you can't ask them to stop since /say turns into gibberish between factions! nice try...nub!

Bah they know what I mean. Usually I bow whenever I see a horde because I know I'll get owned. Today I saw a horde shaman getting owned by an ogre so I saved him, and then bowed. Later when I was in Boulder'gash or whatever I was fighting an ogre and he helped me a bit. Badass.

Ruzbah gave me the idea


Wow you guys are pussies. My philosophy is that if they are flagged red then I kill it. If I happen to die then it just taught me how to play that class a little better.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: whiteACID on February 07, 2007, 10:36:47 AM
I couldn't believe the twinking on that fuckin' belf pally. Me and two gnome mages were spammin' arcane missles/fireblast like mad and she shrugged it all off. LAME. I wound up just rooting and sheeping her, but then her friends arrived. BOO.
Paladins are the hardest class for me, they have tons of armor and seem to have an infinite mana supply. and their fucking shields piss me off!
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on February 07, 2007, 10:51:33 AM
When I ran Bloodpact my warlock in PVP I couldnt ever believe how many horde it took to down one alliance paladin. I suspect that a lot of alliance players moved to belf pallies for their crazy ass racial spells which makes them that much more annoying.

I also hate all those 'spits' and 'laughs' macros the idiots use when they attack you. I mean grow up.

WhiteAicd: Yeah ive learned the value of hamstring big time. It just seems like if I dont get the jump on a hunter with a flank im screwed. Its not like a caster of some sort vs a rogue, I mean a warrior vs ranged hunter the hunter in most cases will never be able to even touch the ranged hunter.

That being said maybe its better to just run and try to flank a minute or two later when they're distracted. They have speed, range, and a pet on their side tho :/

Additionally im talking RANGED hunters, not the weird melee hunters or the pet focused hunters. Im talking about the hunters with the range boost talent, the improved aspect of hawk, the improved concussive blast. At range they attack WITH RANGE, they dont get close enough for a hamstring.

If for some reason I can get close enough to hamstring I do, and ignore the pet cause well, wtf they absorb like 40% dmg vs their level half the time and have stupid resistances, no point in focusing on them almost ever. Handled hunters the same way as a lock except I had RANGE back then and all my wonderful DoTs.

SO if you cant give me better advice other than 'hamstring the guy yards away from you stunning you with a gajillion arrows' then maybe U sux lol. ;P
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on February 07, 2007, 11:13:35 AM
owned
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: whiteACID on February 07, 2007, 11:44:57 AM
When I ran Bloodpact my warlock in PVP I couldnt ever believe how many horde it took to down one alliance paladin. I suspect that a lot of alliance players moved to belf pallies for their crazy ass racial spells which makes them that much more annoying.

I also hate all those 'spits' and 'laughs' macros the idiots use when they attack you. I mean grow up.

WhiteAicd: Yeah ive learned the value of hamstring big time. It just seems like if I dont get the jump on a hunter with a flank im screwed. Its not like a caster of some sort vs a rogue, I mean a warrior vs ranged hunter the hunter in most cases will never be able to even touch the ranged hunter.

That being said maybe its better to just run and try to flank a minute or two later when they're distracted. They have speed, range, and a pet on their side tho :/

Additionally im talking RANGED hunters, not the weird melee hunters or the pet focused hunters. Im talking about the hunters with the range boost talent, the improved aspect of hawk, the improved concussive blast. At range they attack WITH RANGE, they dont get close enough for a hamstring.

If for some reason I can get close enough to hamstring I do, and ignore the pet cause well, wtf they absorb like 40% dmg vs their level half the time and have stupid resistances, no point in focusing on them almost ever. Handled hunters the same way as a lock except I had RANGE back then and all my wonderful DoTs.

SO if you cant give me better advice other than 'hamstring the guy yards away from you stunning you with a gajillion arrows' then maybe U sux lol. ;P
It's called intercept to get in their range. I played a hunter to level 60 and got to Marshall in pvp. It's much harder to get away from warriors than that. Unless you are just completely obvlivious to your surrounding and don't see the hunter sniping away at you until its to late. Always be aware of your surrounding, when you see a hunter start moving towards them, there are other tricks too.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 07, 2007, 11:59:38 AM
Last night I was killed about 5 times in a row by this lv40 horde druid. A bunch of horde were right outside Refuge Pointee and none of the aliance wanted to help. So basically me and this lv31 hunter kept trying to ward them off. Finanally the horde killed us again and invaded RP. They killed a lot of guards before being driven back by a few players.

I spend most of my playing time in defense stance, but when PVP that doesn't seem to be a good idea. You gotta hamstring people or they'll walk all over you. Sundering armor is also a good idea
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: whiteACID on February 07, 2007, 12:02:37 PM
I'll ask Megafoo what else you can do to fight hunters. We both leveled a hunter and warrior together to 60 and did mad pvp with them. He's actually pretty damn good.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: whiteACID on February 07, 2007, 12:02:57 PM
I need a good name for my new human female rogue...
Ming


lol
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: whiteACID on February 07, 2007, 12:05:15 PM
Name her Gogetalife
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 07, 2007, 12:09:13 PM
Arwinia
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on February 07, 2007, 12:42:53 PM
Intercept Range vs Ranged Hunter firing range is a pretty big difference. I intercept lots, but with the right talent a range hunter gains 12 yards on a range thats already greater than intercept.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: whiteACID on February 07, 2007, 01:31:26 PM
Intercept Range vs Ranged Hunter firing range is a pretty big difference. I intercept lots, but with the right talent a range hunter gains 12 yards on a range thats already greater than intercept.
What level is your warrior?
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on February 07, 2007, 01:35:50 PM
25
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 07, 2007, 01:39:22 PM
Would it be possible for me to move my character to MAF's server so I could duel him, and then come back to my server?
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on February 07, 2007, 01:41:07 PM
haha, only cost 50 bux!

Not sure how arenas work, I think your assignment to opponents over the cross-server network am total rando
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Van Cruncheon on February 07, 2007, 01:41:34 PM
MAF would raperape you. It's not worth the shame.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on February 07, 2007, 01:42:17 PM
Unless PD is a range hunter, then I would just sorta fall over. Im good against everything but range hunters :(
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: whiteACID on February 07, 2007, 02:10:44 PM
25
oh geez, Warriors are pretty weak at the low levels, and hunters are pretty tough, just wait till you get higher. Also warriors depend ALOT on armor and gear, it's pretty easy to pick you off at this level
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on February 07, 2007, 02:36:50 PM
Ok, well thats at least a little comforting.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 07, 2007, 04:07:14 PM
I'm a lv33 warrior  :punch

I dueled Eti last night. Wasn't pretty :( :lol
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Prost on February 07, 2007, 04:07:19 PM
Warriors are shit until they get geared up.

Unless you have the high end shit, or at least some whoop ass weapon/weapons, a warrior will get beat down every time.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on February 07, 2007, 04:08:58 PM
Yeah end-game youre probably right. Have there been any reactions from Warriors over the higher-end PVP gear? I dont really want to devote the time to raiding even if I dont have to.

I may just do what I did with bloodpact for a while and camp level 59 bgs to avoid facing people with higher end raid equipment until I have the higher end pvp equipment.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: etiolate on February 07, 2007, 07:12:43 PM
I hit 50 with my druid. I never got to 50 on my lock, so this is my first 50 character.  It's rather uneventful for a druid though, just higher ranks in the same old skills.  I saw Gift of the Wild on AH and bid on it, thinking that it stacked with MOW, but I looked it up and it doesn't. =/  So I think I just may have wasted 15g on a spell thats just naother version of MotW.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on February 07, 2007, 09:46:12 PM
Etio: Ive tried like three druids but they honestly wear too many hats for me to appreciate. Thats not a bad thing, I just like a bit more focus.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: etiolate on February 07, 2007, 09:57:33 PM
Well at 50, I'm getting bored. I'm not sure if it's the Druid or the game. I got bored late 40s with my lock and I was feeling the same thing here, but I thought 50 would liven things up.  Not really. It's just the same old quests and articificial time extenders. I got a Druid quest(the first since lvl 16) and it involves drop rates from hell.

I also have no new talents to look forward to, unless I totally abondon healing or totally abondon feral.  I can't do either, as I need feral for soloing and I need healing to get me into dungeons.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on February 07, 2007, 10:08:51 PM
Well at level 50 youre starting to get close to all that new outland shit. The quests youre on now are the old quests, all the expansion quests are quite a bit better.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: BlackMage on February 08, 2007, 12:01:48 AM
Well at level 50 youre starting to get close to all that new outland shit. The quests youre on now are the old quests, all the expansion quests are quite a bit better.

he's right. outland really is a change of pace. you can start doing outlands at 58.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on February 08, 2007, 12:21:55 AM
I kinda wish they revamped ALL the quests, the expansion quests are on such a different level. The starting areas for the new races are way more efficient and fun.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: etiolate on February 08, 2007, 12:37:00 AM
Well I liked the starting areas, actually always preferred them to later on, because the quests were more varied and the areas had more personality. There is only so much I can take of bleak and desolate lands.  I think thats why I liked Feralas.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Homemade Milk on February 08, 2007, 01:52:12 AM
what server u on nukkah?
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 08, 2007, 02:12:25 AM
(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e86/PhoenixDark1/shitfaced.jpg)

A completly shitfaced Goinio shamelessly advertising the site while at the fair. Damn I didn't know alcohol makes the game look like a Wii game on an HD set lolz
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on February 09, 2007, 01:53:09 AM
My hunter and pet CrabCake made their debut tonight. Kicked some ASSSSSSS in pvp woo
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: The Sceneman on February 09, 2007, 03:12:13 AM
wait, people are still playing this game? I thought wow was just a fad like yugioh or something. is the game still fun after all these years?
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: etiolate on February 09, 2007, 04:42:55 AM
Phoenix, since we're the only two still playing, I think I'm disbanding the guild and merging it with people I play with.  I'm waiting to see if you want to join the other guild too, because it would be lame to leave you in the guild alone. The other guild has more players, so you might get more groups.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: whiteACID on February 09, 2007, 08:19:10 AM
Long live DIVIDED PATH
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 09, 2007, 09:48:03 AM
Phoenix, since we're the only two still playing, I think I'm disbanding the guild and merging it with people I play with.  I'm waiting to see if you want to join the other guild too, because it would be lame to leave you in the guild alone. The other guild has more players, so you might get more groups.

Sounds good to me. Are they all high levels tho?
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on February 09, 2007, 10:42:41 AM
Scene: Only like 8 million people are with WoW. Get with the program lol.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 09, 2007, 12:22:16 PM
World of WarCraft>MySpace

Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: etiolate on February 09, 2007, 03:27:58 PM
Phoenix, since we're the only two still playing, I think I'm disbanding the guild and merging it with people I play with.  I'm waiting to see if you want to join the other guild too, because it would be lame to leave you in the guild alone. The other guild has more players, so you might get more groups.

Sounds good to me. Are they all high levels tho?

They range from 20s to 50s, with probably more in your level than at mine.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: whiteACID on February 09, 2007, 09:20:13 PM
Ya, don't do quests way below your level.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 10, 2007, 12:41:42 AM
 :lol
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: etiolate on February 10, 2007, 02:04:39 AM
Only reason to do those quests is for reputation.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: etiolate on February 10, 2007, 03:47:22 AM
I just did Alterac Valley for the first time. What the hell does that bg have to do with pvp? I hardly fouhgt Horde. I just followed groups and healed, then watch the alliance screw up at the end.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Van Cruncheon on February 10, 2007, 12:34:58 PM
not if they're so low you can't start 'em!
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: whiteACID on February 10, 2007, 12:49:01 PM
I just did Alterac Valley for the first time. What the hell does that bg have to do with pvp? I hardly fouhgt Horde. I just followed groups and healed, then watch the alliance screw up at the end.
Mostly for the reputation awards you get.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 10, 2007, 06:25:31 PM
Last night I was reminded just how fun WoW can be.

For the last couple days I had been anticipating doing the Alterac Mountains. There was this quest I wanted to do REALLY badly that required a full group to go into the mountains and kill a shit ton of lv37-40 elite Crushridge Warmongers (ogres). Finally yesterday I put together a group and set out.

This was the first group I have ever started, and perhaps the best I've played with in a LONG time. Surprisingly the makeup was rather...odd. For instance, including myself the group consisted of 3 warriors. Usually that doesn't seem like a good idea, but since we were going against extremely powerful ogres having 3 warriors who all had enough HP to tank was a good also. We also had two paladins, one of which was the healer.

We made our way up to the mountain after dealing with some horde and then quickly took out some of the regular, non elite ogres. But like 10 minutes later we realized our attacks weren't doing anything - in fact, we could attack anything. The game had bugged out, and invisible enemies wound up taking us all out. When we found our bodies the bugs were gone, so we finished off the regular ogres and made our way to the Warmongers.

These things were fucking HARD to take down. I noticed my attacks were doing like 20-35 damage at various points against the lv40 ones. Also I noticed my Taunt didn't work against them a lot either; they kept resisting Intiminating Shout too. But it didn't matter much because we had three warriors kicking ass lolz.

The main reason I wanted to do the quest was to get the AMAZING shield at the end. Like 965 defense rating OMG. It's sooo badass. I also bought another one hand axe that's better than the one I had.  :bow
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: whiteACID on February 10, 2007, 07:42:16 PM
I'm 39, should be 40 by the end of the night. I have a purple hawkstrider!
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Disposable White Guy on February 10, 2007, 08:36:34 PM
http://ctolpin.googlepages.com/pitchforks.html

You guys wanna buy a level 70 warlock?  :-\
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 10, 2007, 08:42:31 PM
I'm 39, should be 40 by the end of the night. I have a purple hawkstrider!

He wasn't asking you. Zinla cries bitter tears because of you!


I'm lv34, almost 35.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: whiteACID on February 10, 2007, 10:48:45 PM
Vaiya just got her mount!

(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y6/mssmojorising/mount.jpg)
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: etiolate on February 11, 2007, 12:23:21 AM
belfs are still evil
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 11, 2007, 01:53:37 AM
Vaiya just got her mount!

(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y6/mssmojorising/mount.jpg)

You're lv40 already WTF? That expansion came out a few weeks ago...wow how is that possible.

Plus you have 17 GOLD? The most I've had is 9
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Van Cruncheon on February 11, 2007, 03:51:47 AM
belfs are lame, 'specially belf pallies. let's pray for a nerf!
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on February 11, 2007, 03:55:08 AM
http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=75430888&sid=1

im honestly just baffled by the slaughter I see on my server. Its not about one player being bad or good, its about complete lack of balance.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: cubicle47b on February 11, 2007, 05:45:57 AM
Paladins are ridiculously overpowered in their 20s.  At level 35 with a fiery war axe I was killing yetis in Hillsbrad in 7-8 seconds with a couple Seal of Command procs.  At level 64 I'm watching mages 3 shot mobs that take me 20-30 seconds to kill.  As for the racial, it's extremely annoying in close quarters (WSG flag rooms) when multiple players have it.  However, it has a really limited range, a 2 minute cooldown, and it's centered on the blood elf so it's not nearly as annoying as something like counterspell which is a 30 yard instant cast shut down of your holy tree for 10 seconds if you do something stupid like try to heal.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: etiolate on February 11, 2007, 07:01:32 AM
the belf racials are proof blizzard is pvp distinguished mentally-challenged

Was there noone in their brain trust who thought "this might be overly exploitable..."

The paladins are bad and the most common, but just wait till a belf warlock drains all your mana in a couple of seconds with their racial and drain mana.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: whiteACID on February 11, 2007, 10:31:25 AM
Vaiya just got her mount!

(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y6/mssmojorising/mount.jpg)

You're lv40 already WTF? That expansion came out a few weeks ago...wow how is that possible.

Plus you have 17 GOLD? The most I've had is 9
I did have 109 gold until I had to buy my spells and mount training :(

You just have to play the auction house. Every green drop you get sell look up on the AH to see what other people are sellling it for....ah you'll learn.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: whiteACID on February 11, 2007, 10:37:26 AM
I have some really cool mods you guys should check out.

Bongo's I used for my interface, it's much easier than CT and user friendly.

Of course I have Atlas, which shows me the maps of all the instances and the loot that drops in them. I also have Atlas Loot Enhanced, that shows me all the pvp gear, all the Tier Gear, even Tier 4 and 5 and the Arena pvp gear.

Gathering mod. Any herbs or ore you gather shows on your map after you have gathered it. It's much nicer than just running around looking for gromsblood when you can just look on your map and immediately know where it spawns.

A cooldown timer mod, which is nice. All my keybound buttons I have at the bottom of my screen and they are pretty small so it's hard to see the cooldown on them. Now I have bars on the side that show me the cooldown of all the spells I've used and potions, mana jade's etc.

Enemy cast bar, when I have an enemy targeted I can see what they are casting. I can counterspell Mage's trying to sheep me or priests trying to heal. Great mod for pvp.

Also scrolling combat text, also good for pvp, it says when i've had the killing blow, It's like Blizzards SCT but better.

I can find the links for these if any of you guys are interested.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on February 11, 2007, 11:25:15 AM
Dont the mods get to be a pain after each patch or has that changed.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: whiteACID on February 11, 2007, 12:49:47 PM
Dont the mods get to be a pain after each patch or has that changed.
Some of them are, but it's not that big of a hassle to redownload them
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 11, 2007, 01:09:29 PM
Yea I try to sell all the green stuff I get on AH. Usually I find leather armor sells far easier and for much more than anything else. Even stuff with like 70 defense.

Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: cubicle47b on February 11, 2007, 01:46:06 PM
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but just wait till a belf warlock drains all your mana in a couple of seconds with their racial and drain mana.

Are you serious?  Mana tap at level 64 is 114 mana, has a 30 second cooldown, and invokes the global cooldown.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on February 11, 2007, 01:48:41 PM
I honestly just wish gift of the naru was useful outside of pve
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Van Cruncheon on February 11, 2007, 02:14:11 PM
yeah, GotN is utterly useless in PvP.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: whiteACID on February 11, 2007, 03:05:16 PM
What does Gift of the Naru do?

Horde always have better PvP racials. Blizzard likes Horde more, that's no secret.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on February 11, 2007, 03:09:54 PM
Gift of the Naru is sorta like a Renew spell for Draenei, its not instant cast and has a 3 minute cooldown, thus making it completely useless in battlegrounds. The decent thing about it is the amount healed and rate healed at rises with levels to compensate with rising HP sinks but god damn if that doesnt mean SHIT in bg ;)

Yeah that perception racial, I think humans have it, is pretty fuck useless haha. In order for it to work you have to be PSYCHIC to know when a rogue MIGHT be in the area before firing it off so if a rogue IS in the area you can see it RIGHT before it backstabs you lolol.

Oh blizzard.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on February 11, 2007, 04:57:42 PM
Finally starting to dominate the board in pvp. Its amazing how few warriors are running around tho.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Van Cruncheon on February 11, 2007, 05:07:30 PM
GotN rocks for grinding, though!
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: etiolate on February 11, 2007, 07:18:22 PM
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but just wait till a belf warlock drains all your mana in a couple of seconds with their racial and drain mana.

Are you serious?  Mana tap at level 64 is 114 mana, has a 30 second cooldown, and invokes the global cooldown.

Doesn't it stack? I just knove I've seen it happen.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: whiteACID on February 11, 2007, 07:59:43 PM
Stacks up to 3 times, then you use Arcane Torrent, which silences the target and you gain the mana from mana tap.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 11, 2007, 10:39:23 PM
Damn it seems like my defense isn't doing much. Currently my rating is 2730, but it doesn't seem like I've improved. I was so hyped to get that badass shield yet I'm still losing lots of health against lv31-34 creeps. Ugh
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on February 11, 2007, 10:48:20 PM
lol enchants.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 12, 2007, 12:40:34 PM
Damn son, get some new armor. 2700 for level 35 is nothing.

I thought mine was AWESOME :(
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on February 12, 2007, 12:43:30 PM
What armor do you have?
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 12, 2007, 06:32:52 PM
(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e86/PhoenixDark1/armor.jpg)

My chest armor is highlighted because of how strong it is for that level. It has a higher def rating than many of the higher lv chest armors on the AH
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: etiolate on February 12, 2007, 08:10:35 PM
PD do you have this quest yet?

http://thottbot.com/?qu=1791

Because you get a badass axe once you finish it.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 12, 2007, 09:04:58 PM
PD do you have this quest yet?

http://thottbot.com/?qu=1791

Because you get a badass axe once you finish it.

Hm what kind of axe? That sight is kinda confusing, but I should be able to find him.

Also, I don't even have beserker stance yet. How do I get it?
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: etiolate on February 13, 2007, 12:32:51 AM
You should have gotten berseker stance from trainer at level 30, then you get the quest and at the end you get: http://thottbot.com/?i=4187 or sword or hammer.  I'm not sure. I know I got the axe for another warrior before by doing the quests.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 13, 2007, 01:26:07 AM
It's a 2H weapon :(
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on February 13, 2007, 01:30:12 AM
2H rox ftw crit fantastical! I love the Arms tree :D

Just spam hamstring till they dodge then whip out an improved overpower + impale = MEGA DAMAGE NEVAR MISS OMG
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 13, 2007, 01:49:16 AM
2H rox ftw crit fantastical! I love the Arms tree :D

Just spam hamstring till they dodge then whip out an improved overpower + impale = MEGA DAMAGE NEVAR MISS OMG

But I'm a tank :(

I need a shield...
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on February 13, 2007, 02:00:16 AM
I know, but I barely group and in BG Warriors pretty much stand alone, so im all about DPS and crippling.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: whiteACID on February 13, 2007, 02:20:58 AM
Been having fun ganking lowbies in Lakeshire and Duskwood at night after I'm done questing. Tonight they called in a lvl 60 paladin and me, another mage and a rogue (all lvl 42) took this newb out a few times. wtf, my 60 priest never would have let that happen.

lol
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 13, 2007, 02:48:56 AM
I know, but I barely group and in BG Warriors pretty much stand alone, so im all about DPS and crippling.

I would love to see a video of you doing a dungeon/hard area alone, like say Stormgrade. Impossible.

I'll probalby wind up puttin that weapon on AH, although it's probably soulbound dammit
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: etiolate on February 13, 2007, 04:16:24 AM
PD I'd suggest you go with a damage weapon when you solo and save the shield and 1h for dungeons. You take more damage minus the shield, but you kill faster as well, so it balances out when you're just soloing/grinding.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 13, 2007, 06:42:00 AM
PD I'd suggest you go with a damage weapon when you solo and save the shield and 1h for dungeons. You take more damage minus the shield, but you kill faster as well, so it balances out when you're just soloing/grinding.

That makes sense actually.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on February 13, 2007, 09:29:48 AM
PD: I got two levels to 60 without high level instances. No big :)

I actually take very little REAL damage while solo-ing since I crit so often and so hard.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 13, 2007, 10:33:00 AM
PD: I got two levels to 60 without high level instances. No big :)

I actually take very little REAL damage while solo-ing since I crit so often and so hard.
:o

I remember you said you didn't do Gnomer; did you skip stuff like Black Fathom Deeps? Well then again BFD isn't that hard outside of the last parts. I'm assuming you didn't do Scarlet Monnesary?

I went there once with a group. The journey there was pretty cool, but like 5 minutes before we got there the group leader (who BEGGED us to go with him) declared he only had 30min left. Why the fuck would anyone do an instance if they knew they didn't have a lot of time? Anyway once we got there we saw like two groups of Horde at the summon stone :lol

They killed us with ease. Once we got into the SM we didn't last long because of the Horde and elites. I'm not going back ever >:( :(
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on February 13, 2007, 10:45:20 AM
I did scarlet but never beat it and thats it haha. The PUGs I did find were kinda bad. Then again thats horde, bad at PVE, great at BG.

I did a lot of grinding and a TON of PVP back when it actually got you experience. Then I just sorta mucked around in higher level areas, but I never play enough to get an instance group going. I play maybe 2 hours at a time, 4 on rare occations.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: cubicle47b on February 13, 2007, 11:53:27 AM
I love Scarlet Monastery.  It's relatively short (winged dungeons!), easy, and the loot is good.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Prost on February 13, 2007, 07:40:13 PM
I love Scarlet Monastery.  It's relatively short (winged dungeons!), easy, and the loot is good.
Isn't Monastary in game?  Or they may have changed it.

The SM is the best!  One of the coolest instances of all time.  I love blasting through there with a 60 and just completely taking over the place.

I wonder what's cooler though, going through the stockades with two 70 mages just spamming arcane explosion, or going and soloing doan till ya get the illusion on like a 50 priest, hahah.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 13, 2007, 07:44:59 PM
Today I hung out with a pretty cool paladin and we did a somewhat small quest together in the Arathi highlands. Later he invited me to a group and we did Stormgrade; it was my first time doing the giants in the lower area of the city. VERY good group. We finished the ogre quest in no time, but didn't have a chance to do the rest of Stormgrade after people started leaving. To make matters worse the horde showed up lol.

I was in Stormgrade for at least 40min without being bothered by horde, which was remarkable. They showed up at the last minute :(
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Homemade Milk on February 14, 2007, 01:37:59 AM
dude, my assassination set shit ALWAYS drops for my guildies and never for me.

and horde arent bad on stonemaul, dont gank much. Im trasnfering back to Daggerspine though cause stonemaul is gay cause all my friends quit
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on February 15, 2007, 12:28:44 AM
YEAH LOL LIKE CANT SPELL WOW SHIT! U MUST FAIL AT LIFE.

lol wtf ruz, who cares.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 15, 2007, 03:02:42 AM
STORMGRADE SOUNDS MORE FANTASY-ESQUE :punch

Nazis and dragons!
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on February 15, 2007, 03:05:55 AM
Im level 29 now, just dominating WSG tonight after a false start in my first match. Its amazing how useful Intimidating Shout and Hamstring can be :)
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 15, 2007, 10:23:13 AM
I journeyed to horde territory for the first time yesterday. A long time ago I accepted this warrior quest that required me to go to Fray Island, located off the coast of the Barrens; finally decided to do it yesterday. For some reason I thought the barrens would be near the plaugelands in alliance territory, but after asking a lv60 paladin I realized it was on the other continent.

Took me forever to get there lol. Horde territory is very...different. And I couldn't help be amused that the Barrens looked like fucking Africa, giraffes and all. Does this mean the orcs are supposed to be black people? :punch

Anyway I was happy that the Horde didn't fuck with me. The majority of players I saw were low levels, and I couldn't attack them (but they could attack me). A lv33 paladin gave me shit once, but other than that it was smooth sailing. And when I say sailing I mean it, because there was a LOT of swimming involved in getting to the island lol. I noticed I had to go all the way around certain parts of the Great Sea and Merchant Coast because a fatigue bar would show up whenever I entered dark waters. I didn't want to see what happened when that bar emptied lolz.

FINALLY I got to Fray Island and found the guy I was looking for: a warrior trainer. He gave me this challenge to beat a bunch of people in combat, and once I did I got Bezerker stance. BADASS. I haven't been able to use it yet, but it looks sweet.

Currently I have 24 talent points in arms and 2 in defense, but I really want to build up some points in fury now. I'm obviously primarily arms, but there are some key things in defense/fury that I need. For instance in defense there's this talent that allows you to keep a certain amount of rage after you switch stances. Very important imo, so I want to put as many points in that as possible.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: cubicle47b on February 15, 2007, 12:00:33 PM
Ruzbeh, quit being an annoying fuck.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on February 15, 2007, 04:00:16 PM
Cruelty is all I want from Fury.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: etiolate on February 16, 2007, 07:41:14 PM
My Druis is 54, romping through Winterspring.
(http://www.mapored.com/etiolate/emptybox7.jpg)
(http://www.mapored.com/etiolate/emptybox8.jpg)


I've learned two things about RPers.

1. To signify you are RP, you walk slow.  It's confusing at first, because you think they're an NPC, but no they are just RPers showing their slow walking RP pride.  This can be very frustrating if you happen to get an RPer in your group at Sunken Temple and they're slow walking means they can't keep up.

2. They refer to their level as their age. As in "Can you help me? This is tough at my young age of 11."
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on February 17, 2007, 12:19:44 AM
Hahah RPers and walking slow is so true.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Homemade Milk on February 17, 2007, 06:10:58 AM
why the fuck would you play on a RP server? if you play on anything but a PVP realm you're a panzy.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: whiteACID on February 17, 2007, 11:18:49 AM
He plays on a RPPVP realm...
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: BlackMage on February 17, 2007, 04:31:01 PM
why the fuck would you play on a RP server? if you play on anything but a PVP realm you're a panzy.

pvp servers are full of immature little fucktards.. oh wait.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: etiolate on February 17, 2007, 06:31:16 PM
Having played on three different ones, there's really nothing better about a pvp server.  The hope is you go there to play with/against real pvp players or better pvpers, but all you get is the bad pvpers who rely on ganking.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: whiteACID on February 18, 2007, 11:46:35 PM
Just hit 47. STV is the worst place for ganking.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on February 19, 2007, 11:50:28 AM
Hell, I dont even LIKE World PVP and I ganked people in STV lol.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 19, 2007, 12:09:12 PM
I have like 11 gold :bow

Auction House :bow

Wow people who use cloth armor will pay anything for that weak stuff. I sold some chest armor with like a 40 defense rating for around 1.5 gold
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: whiteACID on February 19, 2007, 12:10:09 PM
I got Auctioneer about a week ago and I went from 13 gold to 130 now.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: whiteACID on February 19, 2007, 12:11:05 PM
Do you mean it's the worst place because it's a known place where people get ganked or are you saying that it's a bad spot to gank if you want to gank?
What I meant was that if you are a pussy and cry when you get ganked it's the worst place for ganking. If you are like me and kill on sight then it's the best.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 19, 2007, 12:12:14 PM
I got Auctioneer about a week ago and I went from 13 gold to 130 now.

WHAT THE HELL

You need to share your secrets
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: whiteACID on February 19, 2007, 12:13:35 PM
I got Auctioneer about a week ago and I went from 13 gold to 130 now.

WHAT THE HELL

You need to share your secrets
Get the auctioneer mod, it's not secret.

http://wow-en.curse-gaming.com/files/details/78/auctioneer/
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on February 19, 2007, 12:14:22 PM
I make tons off of minerals, kinda silly really.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 19, 2007, 12:16:45 PM
Yea it's amazing how much people will pay for iron bars. My mining rating is pretty high now, but my blacksmithing is low because I wind up just mining and then selling the shit (after smelting it) instead of turning it into armor/weapons
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Van Cruncheon on February 19, 2007, 01:27:34 PM
AB really has only one strategy -- have pairs hold 3-4 bases, and have a roaming death squad circle the map.

WSG is where the action is.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on February 19, 2007, 01:43:23 PM
Ive played WSG for a very long time, its hard to not. I think its the best BG by far.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: whiteACID on February 19, 2007, 01:51:55 PM
WSG is the most intense BG
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Megafoo on February 19, 2007, 02:06:31 PM
Love your warrior. I miss the class more than anything. I spent hours hamstringing nubs with my toon before i called her quits at rank 10 to take time off before the expansion.

<3 my zinny.

(http://www.dividedpath.com/blackacid.jpg)

sadly i didn't record any PVP videos with her just my guilds Rag kills. and now it's off to be a mage to annoy people in the 5 v 5 arena when i finally get to 70.

R.I.P. Acid.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: whiteACID on February 19, 2007, 02:11:02 PM
Blackacid and Whiteacid we're fun leveling up togethor!

(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y6/mssmojorising/getalife.jpg)

We'll have a blast with Vaughn and Vaiya though.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on February 19, 2007, 02:13:48 PM
Ill post a pick of my warrior tonight, he's pretty cool.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Megafoo on February 19, 2007, 02:47:01 PM
i'll post a video of me tanking rag back when it was actually cool in this old guild i used to run. Hopefully it will give you some inspiration to not only level your toon but a better understanding why the warrior is the best class in the game. Your whole guild looks up to you. you control the fights. Granted i don't know how this will play out in the BC because around the time AQ40 and Naxx came out the role of the "main tank" isn't what it used to be in MC/BWL. also shows why 40 man raiding in world of warcraft is the most intense gaming experience i've had in my 24 years of being a gamer.

People talk so much shit about wow, and how it's a waste of time, but they've never experienced the rush of leading 40 people to conquer something in a video game.

Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 19, 2007, 03:12:20 PM
i'll post a video of me tanking rag back when it was actually cool in this old guild i used to run. Hopefully it will give you some inspiration to not only level your toon but a better understanding why the warrior is the best class in the game. Your whole guild looks up to you. you control the fights. Granted i don't know how this will play out in the BC because around the time AQ40 and Naxx came out the role of the "main tank" isn't what it used to be in MC/BWL. also shows why 40 man raiding in world of warcraft is the most intense gaming experience i've had in my 24 years of being a gamer.

People talk so much shit about wow, and how it's a waste of time, but they've never experienced the rush of leading 40 people to conquer something in a video game.


:bow

I have a lv35 warrior and I tank. I'm pretty decent at it but when lots of elites are involved it's hard for me to keep arrgo
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Disposable White Guy on February 19, 2007, 06:48:05 PM
i'll post a video of me tanking rag back when it was actually cool in this old guild i used to run. Hopefully it will give you some inspiration to not only level your toon but a better understanding why the warrior is the best class in the game. Your whole guild looks up to you. you control the fights. Granted i don't know how this will play out in the BC because around the time AQ40 and Naxx came out the role of the "main tank" isn't what it used to be in MC/BWL. also shows why 40 man raiding in world of warcraft is the most intense gaming experience i've had in my 24 years of being a gamer.

People talk so much shit about wow, and how it's a waste of time, but they've never experienced the rush of leading 40 people to conquer something in a video game.


:bow

I have a lv35 warrior and I tank. I'm pretty decent at it but when lots of elites are involved it's hard for me to keep arrgo

Get used to it :-\ Warriors had a pretty decent shot at tanking multiple things, but ever since BC, it's all kind mehhhh.  You'll still be the best thing to soak up damage on bosses and such.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: etiolate on February 19, 2007, 07:01:12 PM
I need to start making more gold, I only have 120 at 56. Mining mats really are where the money is at.

Anyways, finally won Alterac Valley after about 11 tries.  I didn't expect to this time, because I was drunk and mostly screwing around for the first half of the match, playing hide and go seek with Horde.

I am still an aswesome healbot, even half assed.

(http://www.mapored.com/etiolate/healbot.jpg)

I also got me idol of fercity on second BRD run.  I'm also glad I'll be able to skip most of these dungeons due to BC greens being generally better, because these long ass instances are the anti-fun.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: etiolate on February 19, 2007, 09:01:56 PM
It was very long yes. I thought it was going to be a quick loss, because there was only four of us on offense, but somehow the four of us got to frostwolf graveyard.  That part was actually funny. I managed to have IB gy npcs chase me towards frostwolf where I died, I rezed at frostwolf after someone on alliance had ninja'd it.  Then, not knowing this and being drunk, I walked right into the elite guards at the graveyard and they chased me back to the rez spot where a Paladin just rezed.  He grabbed their aggro, I healed him and he managed to kill most of them except one until our guards spawned at the flag and we dragged the elite npc to them.

But anyways, it was just a handful of us screwing around at the southern end until our defense actually turned all the horde back and came to help us on O and then it ended rather quickly after that.  It just took a long time for that to happen.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: whiteACID on February 19, 2007, 10:02:52 PM
I'm Vaiya, Megafoo's Vaughn

(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y6/mssmojorising/vaiyawins.jpg)
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Megafoo on February 19, 2007, 10:04:17 PM
I'm Vaiya, Megafoo's Vaughn

(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y6/mssmojorising/vaiyawins.jpg)

 :-*
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on February 19, 2007, 10:08:01 PM
(http://img506.imageshack.us/img506/6672/auch30mf2.jpg)

That's my 30 right now, he am rox total.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on February 19, 2007, 10:09:41 PM
i'll post a video of me tanking rag back when it was actually cool in this old guild i used to run. Hopefully it will give you some inspiration to not only level your toon but a better understanding why the warrior is the best class in the game. Your whole guild looks up to you. you control the fights. Granted i don't know how this will play out in the BC because around the time AQ40 and Naxx came out the role of the "main tank" isn't what it used to be in MC/BWL. also shows why 40 man raiding in world of warcraft is the most intense gaming experience i've had in my 24 years of being a gamer.

People talk so much shit about wow, and how it's a waste of time, but they've never experienced the rush of leading 40 people to conquer something in a video game.


:bow

I have a lv35 warrior and I tank. I'm pretty decent at it but when lots of elites are involved it's hard for me to keep arrgo

Get used to it :-\ Warriors had a pretty decent shot at tanking multiple things, but ever since BC, it's all kind mehhhh.  You'll still be the best thing to soak up damage on bosses and such.

What's funny is Druids in bear form generally generate more rage at the higher levels and do a better job taunting after BC. Warriors are getting pissed cause they arent ALLOWED to tank if a feral druid is in the group.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Megafoo on February 19, 2007, 10:17:35 PM
nice MAF. love the dranei warriors. they are hot
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on February 19, 2007, 10:18:19 PM
They're easy to spot at least ;)
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Disposable White Guy on February 19, 2007, 10:20:51 PM
Well, like... I dunno.  I think the mobs that can bleed, warriors am fuckt.  Undead and demon mobs with a paladin around, warriors am fuckt.  It's really weird to see druids and paladins overpowered again  :lol
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Megafoo on February 19, 2007, 10:21:00 PM
all these people talking shit about warriors not being tanks is just the case in some of the 5 mans. i promise you a druid isn't tanking gruul :)
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on February 19, 2007, 10:23:00 PM
For all the bitching I see from warriors, a few warriors have posted a few interesting how-tos on tanking. While the prot spec is a big problem for warriors in PVE, I think my main issue with the Warrior class is in PVE. I mean if I do anything other than WSG its impossible to flank ranged hunters/mages/warlocks without getting fucked with bad. I wish charge got a little bit of a range boost. I mean the whole point is to get into melee range where I can melee. :(
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Disposable White Guy on February 19, 2007, 10:23:13 PM
A druid's tanking the trash leading up to Gruul  ;)
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Megafoo on February 19, 2007, 10:24:20 PM
A druid's tanking the trash leading up to Gruul  ;)

MT's don't want to tank trash  8)
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on February 19, 2007, 10:24:59 PM
Lol
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Megafoo on February 19, 2007, 10:32:13 PM
intercept and piercing howl will be like a warm blanket to soothe your range problems real soon MAF.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on February 19, 2007, 10:39:26 PM
I lub furbolg wand, never gonna finish the quest. I WANNA KEEP WAND!

(http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/3785/furbolgnb5.jpg)
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: whiteACID on February 19, 2007, 11:33:08 PM
Just had my best AB ever. The more I play my mage the better I get.

(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y6/mssmojorising/vaiyarox.jpg)

I must say, while WSG is more intense, AB is more fun when you have a mount.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: etiolate on February 20, 2007, 12:03:14 AM
As to the Druid tank thing, I'm not to the point where I have lacerate yet and a Warrior can hold aggro better than me, AND I'm mostly rest spec, but I have found myself tanking dungeons more than anything lately. I tanked and healed for ST and BRD, but mostly tanked.  Normally I'm pulled in as just the Druid, to do whatever, but then they ask and my stats actually outweight their intended tank.

(http://www.mapored.com/etiolate/feralgear.jpg)
Higher armor than some paladins my level, with 4k health. With buffs I get to near 8k armor, but I really rely on taunt and feral charge for aggro control.

Meanwhile, most of my good stuff is for healing.
(http://www.mapored.com/etiolate/healgear.jpg)

But I feel a full fledged holy priest would be better than me.  I just end up doing both jobs due to a lack of Warriors and a lack of holy priests.

Preferabbly, I'd love to be catform as I can do the most as the wild card in a group.  DPS in catform and shift to help heal or to bear form and grab aggro. I feel like a wipe saver in catform, as I can adjust to a problematic situation more easily.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on February 20, 2007, 01:04:07 AM
Yeah a restodruid is never going to outtank a warrior, you have to be feral or whatever to get the numbers required to piss off the warriors in the group. The key point is you can still be a GOOD TANK as a resto druid, you just cant piss off the warriors ;-)
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: cubicle47b on February 20, 2007, 11:56:00 AM
Feral druids are pretty absurd.  When I put together a group to kill Durn the Hungerer the druid tanking did over 50K damage (the mage did ~70K), healed himself 8K because of improved leader of the pack, and took very little damage because of his high armor/dodge numbers.  Then he shifted into cat form to go rape caster mobs in 4 seconds.  And he can still main heal quite a few instances.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on February 20, 2007, 02:15:22 PM
Yeah druids need a nerf pretty bad, feral spec anyway. I dunno why they got such a nutso boost. Blizzard hasnt made any indication to fix it either.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Disposable White Guy on February 20, 2007, 02:48:38 PM
I liked it before when Balance druids would just put Moonfire on all of their buttons and hotkey each one, so they'd just run around and headbutt the keyboard from time to time.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on February 20, 2007, 03:19:18 PM
I still see quite a few druids go moonkin and just spam that moonfire lol
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Fragamemnon on February 20, 2007, 03:29:38 PM
Man, that didn't work back before TBC boosted hit points out the wazoo. I can't imagine that it would be effective at all now.

Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on February 20, 2007, 03:33:25 PM
Frag: the moonkin thing? Well since TBC ive only seen it once and he had a few people buffing him in the background to keep him going.

There's a debate on the WoW warrior forums right now over the validity of Slam or Imp Slam. Imp Slam's casting time is nice but the rage cost is freakin 25 and the damage, at least when you first get it is LESS than heroic strike. Then again as Arms I dont even USE heroic strike since I dont generate rage quit like a fury spec, instead depending on normal strikes and spamstring + improved overpower.

I felt sorta robbed by Slam.

Foo: I just got intercept but im kinda at a loss as to how it should be use. Im used to charge that doesnt require rage to use, and stance dancing without the talent from prot tree fucks with my rage gain bad. Whats a good way for an Arms spec to use zerk stance?
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Fragamemnon on February 20, 2007, 03:56:10 PM
MAF: Yeah, the moonfire spam thing. I can't think of a single class that actually worked on reliably, at least at level 60.

Unless they changed the mechanics a lot with slam in the expansion or through some sort of talent review in the last six months, I can't see it being useful. NONE of the warriors I was guilded with back when I played used it, not even as a rage dump. Most just used other abilities instead.

Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on February 20, 2007, 04:01:23 PM
Some people are arguing that its useful in PVE but I cant really see how as most warriors in PVE are busy trying to generate some actual threat.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Megafoo on February 20, 2007, 04:07:44 PM
Foo: I just got intercept but im kinda at a loss as to how it should be use. Im used to charge that doesnt require rage to use, and stance dancing without the talent from prot tree fucks with my rage gain bad. Whats a good way for an Arms spec to use zerk stance?

Blood Rage.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Fragamemnon on February 20, 2007, 04:11:34 PM
Some people are arguing that its useful in PVE but I cant really see how as most warriors in PVE are busy trying to generate some actual threat.

Totally depends on the situation. There were as many warri ors back when I was playing that were 'DPS' warriors and did everything they could to reduce the amount of threat they generated. They were dual weiding/2H beasts and pumped out HUGE damage, especially once the mob got into execute range. They couldn't use heroic strike because they'd get aggro and get two-rounded.

Slam over heroic strike seems silly if you're actually trying to generate threat.

Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Megafoo on February 20, 2007, 04:16:16 PM
Heroic Strike is worthless. Slam is worthless. All you want to do is boost your strength and ap to ungodly numbers and unleash overpowers, mortal strikes and whirlwinds. Save rage for your excute and that doesn't drop them then blood rage for another execute. I perfer two handed swords over maces, polearms and axes because sword spec is amazing for the extra chance to hit. You will be amazed by it. Always save your blood rage for when you bust into bersker stance. and becareful with your hamstrings. no need to spam it if it's already on them, you gotta manage your rage to a T to get the most out of your warrior in battles.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on February 20, 2007, 04:19:40 PM
Foo: Does it seem ok that ill be primarily arms spec, and only going up to piercing howl in fury tree? Are there specific talents in the fury tree I should aim for aside from Cruelty and Piercing Howl?

I currently spam hamstring because its a cheap move that forces them into dodges. Rend has the same cost, is that as easy to dodge?

Now that I have zerker stance should I be spending more time in it even IF im arms spec?

Frag: Well im a 2H and I do focus on DPS and crits since I play WoW like Diablo, meaning mostly alone ;-) Im not concerned with threat but it doesnt mean I try to avoid it. I mean in most situations my hardest fights are in PVP and threat doesnt really matter there.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Disposable White Guy on February 20, 2007, 04:29:07 PM
You might want to consider Enrage in the Fury tree.  It's not necessary or anything, but helps with classes that rely almost entirely on burst damage like rogues and paladins.  I haven't played with a warrior in a while though, so...
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on February 20, 2007, 04:30:05 PM
Rogues I dont have a problem with, Pallies tho..jesus christ they are hard to kill.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Disposable White Guy on February 20, 2007, 04:31:53 PM
They're more manageable when you get that one Prot talent or the other thing that you train.  I dunno what the fuck they call that one these days.  You can almost 'warrior stunlock' a paladin and just run away when he tries to stomp you.

If it's a Holy paladin though, lol have fun!
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on February 20, 2007, 04:33:36 PM
haha, well I just mean wearing the paladin down. I havent really met a Paladin (yet) that can give me a run for my money DPS wise but he always bubbles and runs and does a full heal then fights again, which STILL isnt a problem but I wish there was a way to freaking kill a paladin faster. Battlegrounds still has groups of 3 people trying to kill one paladin who isnt even fighting back, just bubbling and healing and chugging potions lol.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Fragamemnon on February 20, 2007, 04:34:49 PM
Sword spec is definitely A+++++++ WOULD BUY FROM AGAIN material for a warrior. The extra chance to hit is so awesome.

The advice foo gives on AP/Strength uber allies is also what my old warrior friends did to a T, save for the protection tank who just loved to tank and not much else.

Regarding paladins-they are strong at lower levels and good against warriors, so the deck is kind of stacked against you. I can say that you should at least try to pummel them-I've seen my fiance live forever with a warrior/rogue beating on her because she can cast right through their attacks and they never bothered to kick or pummel.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Megafoo on February 20, 2007, 04:36:30 PM
Foo: Does it seem ok that ill be primarily arms spec, and only going up to piercing howl in fury tree? Are there specific talents in the fury tree I should aim for aside from Cruelty and Piercing Howl?

I currently spam hamstring because its a cheap move that forces them into dodges. Rend has the same cost, is that as easy to dodge?

Now that I have zerker stance should I be spending more time in it even IF im arms spec?

Nope, Cruelty, Enrage, and PH are what you want from the fury tree when you spec into arms. Oh, definitely will be spending a lot of time in zerker stance, it ups your crit chance and it's the only stance that lets you whirlwind. LOVE the whirlwind. You'll be taking on 3 nubs vs yourself in no time.



Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Megafoo on February 20, 2007, 04:38:05 PM
You want to hit so hard that your white damage makes warlocks and mages cry. all other classes are my litttle pwnies.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Megafoo on February 20, 2007, 04:43:30 PM
A rough sketch of how i would spec my two handed sword Warrior.

http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/warrior/talents.html?053020213520105200211400505010400400000000000300000000000000000000 (http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/warrior/talents.html?053020213520105200211400505010400400000000000300000000000000000000)

Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Disposable White Guy on February 20, 2007, 04:46:17 PM
haha, well I just mean wearing the paladin down. I havent really met a Paladin (yet) that can give me a run for my money DPS wise but he always bubbles and runs and does a full heal then fights again, which STILL isnt a problem but I wish there was a way to freaking kill a paladin faster. Battlegrounds still has groups of 3 people trying to kill one paladin who isnt even fighting back, just bubbling and healing and chugging potions lol.

Just the way it's been since...well, release :-\  I always see people bitching about how useless it is because of the cast time, but I'd think that Gift of the Naaru would be really nice when a paladin bubbles and starts the healing, on account of the paladin not trying to kill you.  It's almost like Cannibalize, but not as cool!

A rough sketch of how i would spec my two handed sword Warrior.

http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/warrior/talents.html?053020213520105200211400505010400400000000000300000000000000000000 (http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/warrior/talents.html?053020213520105200211400505010400400000000000300000000000000000000)



I think that's what the warrior on my arena team's spec'd at the moment, only without Imp Rend since he likes to IS -> bandage, despite the pocket healers we have.  Old habits die hard, I guess.  Imp MS is sex :drool
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on February 20, 2007, 04:47:55 PM
Hrm, assuming I end up doing WSG PVP at end game a lot i'd probably put points into improved charge and hamstring tho. That's a pretty nice looking build tho. I really need to spend some time learning when to switch stances tho. Def Proc seems so busted I havent switched stances in 30 levels and dont have the skills trained lol.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Megafoo on February 20, 2007, 04:57:57 PM
you won't be doing wsg at end game. Eye of the storm and the Arena is where it's at buddy. Gladiator sets are omg....

Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Megafoo on February 20, 2007, 04:59:44 PM
mother of god just imagine having it. http://www.thottbot.com/?i=54587 (http://www.thottbot.com/?i=54587)
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Megafoo on February 20, 2007, 05:01:34 PM
http://www.thottbot.com/?i=60071 (http://www.thottbot.com/?i=60071) jesus fuck i bet this procs a shit ton too. Plus whatever enchant you put on it. I was always a fan of crusader pre expansion.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on February 20, 2007, 05:05:25 PM
You have no idea how long ive been playing WSG, I LOVE IT! :-(
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Megafoo on February 20, 2007, 05:06:27 PM
we all do. Nothing better than straight up CTF
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Fragamemnon on February 20, 2007, 05:26:53 PM
Reading those thottbot comments for those weapons was funny. YOU HSOULD LET PALLIES ROLL ON IT BECASE THEY DO MORE THAN HAEL TOO!!!

It's like, the same shitty comments there that have been on every 2h weapon thread since people first started getting stuff for arcanite reapers back when the game came out. NO ONE CARES.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on February 20, 2007, 05:29:11 PM
Belf Pallies are the new things I hate. I've never seen a pally jump the fuck around so much in all my life.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on February 20, 2007, 06:10:37 PM
Lol I beat the shit outta this raptor, check it out:

(http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/1953/raptormd8.jpg)
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on February 21, 2007, 02:59:00 PM
Well, to be honest you shouldnt be basing your DPS around how often you get hit ;-)
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on February 21, 2007, 03:14:40 PM
Oh, so its not a skill like priests have then. Well I dunno. In general maces arent THAT much slower than swords. Things dont get REAL slow until you get to two-handers, where 'fast' is one attack every 2.8 seconds. That is of course cheated with Slam I found out the other day, but thats a rage hog so for maybe two turns you get an attack at .5-1.5 seconds.

ANYWAY, I think if youre focusing on survivability over DPS a fast sword will beat a mace, but ive found in most cases that unless you find something really good the higher speed weapons will put out damage thats equal persecond wise to a slower mace. There are a few fast maces out there iirc. A lot of Combat spec rogues use maces.

In short, if you want to get healed a lot by that talent, then go for a faster weapon, but I think it will actually be harder to keep DPS up with MOST faster weapons unless you are a beast with criticals. Honestly tho as a paladin youre sorta almost required to go survivability > DPS. I rarely fight paladins that come close to my Warrior's DPS at my level, but god damn can they TAKE what I dish out.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: cubicle47b on February 21, 2007, 04:09:27 PM
I'm not completely sure but I think blessing/judgment of light, wisdom, and justice are normalized (% chance of a proc based on attack speed).  Really slow weapons may miss out because of a high proc rate though (say it's 20 PPM, anything slower than 3.0 attack speed would be missing out).  Unless you're AOE grinding with protection I'd judge crusader and use seal of righteousness or seal of command depending on your spec.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on February 21, 2007, 04:33:41 PM
That's interesting, I never suspected 'chance' on talents were relative to anything. Then again ive always been a little lost on the idea of resiliance and things like that. I know a lot of items at the top levels have that and im just not sure how thats quantified for the player through the UI
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: BlackMage on February 21, 2007, 04:35:32 PM
Played my druid a little in outlands today, after a month off from him. was good times.

here is a picture of his hotness:
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y96/stinkyfishtaco/drood.jpg)

 :bow :bow
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on February 21, 2007, 04:44:37 PM
lol get a new PC ;)
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: BlackMage on February 21, 2007, 04:46:28 PM
dont be hatin. i have a really good PC. its just that stupid full screen glow effect.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on February 21, 2007, 04:47:00 PM
No the textures am cry :(

Thats ok I shouldnt make fun anyway.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: BlackMage on February 21, 2007, 04:48:03 PM
No the textures am cry :(

Thats ok I shouldnt make fun anyway.

ohh i have everything at default. i could up it but im too lazy to screw around with it.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on February 21, 2007, 04:51:16 PM
If your pc is decent its as easy as sliding all the bars to the far right ;)

The difference is worth it IMO
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: whiteACID on February 21, 2007, 04:51:54 PM
so mean MAG
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: BlackMage on February 21, 2007, 05:07:35 PM
with everything turned up.

(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y96/stinkyfishtaco/drood2.jpg)

hmm not much different. maybe i need to adjust something in my video card options. i have a 7900GS
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: BlackMage on February 21, 2007, 05:13:18 PM
nevermind. converting it to jpeg is making it look worse.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: BlackMage on February 21, 2007, 05:16:44 PM
here's my chillin in outlands!

(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y96/stinkyfishtaco/interface.jpg)
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: whiteACID on February 21, 2007, 05:22:48 PM
it looks fine
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on February 21, 2007, 05:29:44 PM
well the second pic does look better, its just I run everything maxed on my PC through a LCD with DVI so im a snob.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: BlackMage on February 21, 2007, 05:30:49 PM
well the second pic does look better, its just I run everything maxed on my PC through a LCD with DVI so im a snob.

im using an old CRT monitor :(
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on February 21, 2007, 05:32:08 PM
:(
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: BlackMage on February 21, 2007, 06:02:59 PM
CRTs are a lot better than LCDs for gaming so it's all good. But why don't you have the glow effect? Your card should support it... WoW looks average without the glow.

its too fucking bright with the glow
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on February 21, 2007, 06:03:33 PM
I dunno my LCD has an insane response time, I dont know what youre talking about.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: whiteACID on February 21, 2007, 06:53:12 PM
MY first pvp video!!!


http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-869327217114485296
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Disposable White Guy on February 21, 2007, 07:03:24 PM
 :lol

:-*
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: whiteACID on February 21, 2007, 07:04:52 PM
you like that shit don't you?
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Disposable White Guy on February 21, 2007, 07:08:53 PM
Shit baby, you just stomped all the yards you ran into.

spoiler (click to show/hide)
I'm actually a pretty big PVP vid nerd :shh
[close]
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: BlackMage on February 21, 2007, 09:23:47 PM
MY first pvp video!!!


http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-869327217114485296

let the bodies hit the floor? is that a joke?!?! also, wtf man, i can't see shit it's so blurry. I give you an F
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: whiteACID on February 21, 2007, 09:47:47 PM
MY first pvp video!!!


http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-869327217114485296

let the bodies hit the floor? is that a joke?!?! also, wtf man, i can't see shit it's so blurry. I give you an F
ya its a joke dumbass, have you EVER seen a pvp video? they are all blurry as shit
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Van Cruncheon on February 21, 2007, 11:53:40 PM
you wuz makin' that frost mage do all the work! BET HE DIDN'T GET HALF THE HKs THE POOR BASTARD
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: whiteACID on February 21, 2007, 11:58:32 PM
you wuz makin' that frost mage do all the work! BET HE DIDN'T GET HALF THE HKs THE POOR BASTARD
that was Megafoo  :lol
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Megafoo on February 22, 2007, 12:03:58 AM
i speced fire today, dinged 48, got my jewelcrafting to 260 and made me one of these. http://www.thottbot.com/?i=54294 (http://www.thottbot.com/?i=54294)

finally critting over 1000 :)
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on February 22, 2007, 02:49:55 AM
Nice, I picked up my new weapon today. Switched from sword to two-hand mace. I kept the sword tho cause its faster and the dps difference while significant, may lose out to more opportunities to crit. Its about a half second slower so its not a big issue, but this new weapon is pure novelty and omg the crits from this weapon make me teh happy:

(http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/686/shovelne9.jpg)
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on February 22, 2007, 02:51:03 AM
I dunno why but wow textures never look good in the character select menu. Sorry BM :-(
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: BlackMage on February 22, 2007, 03:05:23 AM
MY first pvp video!!!


http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-869327217114485296

let the bodies hit the floor? is that a joke?!?! also, wtf man, i can't see shit it's so blurry. I give you an F
ya its a joke dumbass, have you EVER seen a pvp video? they are all blurry as shit

listen, biotch. I have seen a lot of pvp videos and most of them aren't recorded at 2x1 resolution so suck it
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: whiteACID on February 22, 2007, 03:19:45 AM
My video was recorded in 1280x1024 and was compressed to wmv in 640x480. If it's blurry to your garbage eyes it's because i'm still figuring how to best compress my videos, it's called LEARNING cockfag
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: BlackMage on February 22, 2007, 09:41:21 AM
lol yer fun to argue with.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: BlackMage on February 22, 2007, 11:14:57 AM
sorry whiteACID. i was just messing around.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: whiteACID on February 22, 2007, 12:28:21 PM
so was I, friends still?
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Megafoo on February 22, 2007, 09:50:37 PM
here's some more pvp action i recorded. Video Editing was done in Sony Vegas Video 7.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o6K-ffqUY1E (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o6K-ffqUY1E)
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: etiolate on February 23, 2007, 04:45:58 AM
you guys use a fuckload of mods
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Van Cruncheon on February 23, 2007, 09:13:21 PM
everyone and their mother is a female blood elf pally, warlock, or rogue.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: etiolate on February 23, 2007, 10:33:10 PM
if its belf, it is common

I need to decide what to make my dranei.  I decided against priest, because I don't want to make another healer.  So I'm thinking Shammy or Hunter.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Van Cruncheon on February 23, 2007, 10:33:59 PM
90% of drainies are shammies. go for mage or warrior!
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: etiolate on February 23, 2007, 10:37:44 PM
On my server, most of the dranei are pallies still. Paladins outnumber shaman 4-1 for dranei. A dranei mage might be hawt.

It's hard to resist the dranei totems though.  It's like dropping little rocketships.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on February 24, 2007, 12:26:46 AM
Warriors are finally getting some attention:

http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html;jsessionid=77339F1D3C0A6B6A2807AC7C3D5CE351?topicId=78517913&sid=1
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on February 24, 2007, 02:23:12 AM
OK, i've had a few days with 'The Shoveler'. I wisely kept 'Combatant Claymore' around just in case this rather expensive test run of two handed maces didnt work out.

It didnt work out, there's just too many problems with two-handed maces and an arms build, at least at this level. For one, despite the DPS gain from The Shoveler over Combatant Claymore, the extra half second between hits actually mitigates much of this power. Sure the crits hit harder, but they hit less often, and the extra damage I get in the crit is about 100 over what I get from the combatant claymore.

That's not the only problem. As a two-handed arms warrior im pretty dependant on critical burst damage, and one of the best way to get yer foot in the door that way is spamstring, and this technique really only works with a weapon under 3 seconds unless maybe youre fury. Reason being with a REALLY slow weapon in arms, even with anger management you just dont generate the rage needed to spamstring fast enough to force dodges or the rage required to follow-up with improved overpower.

Then there's the argument that the speed of slow weapons can be artifically boosted with the Slam skill, but there's a lot of drawbacks to that. First off the rage issue, as mentioned above, in fact thats probably the biggest issue. Run into a fight, do your opening shit, then expect 15 rage to pop up quickly from a weapon thats hitting so fucking slow, then you blow the 15 rage on Slam only to get a 1.5 second attack thats actually less powerful than your heroic strike, generates no threat, and requires you to stand completely still till it goes off.

The claymore on the other hand rests at 2.9 per second, and the result is much faster rage generation, I NEVER need to use the expensive talents like heroic strike or slam because normal hits are hitting often enough and dodge is being forced for some still impressive improved overpowers. Hell, I crit normal hits more often because of the speed increase.

I'd also like to add that to anyone who thinks spamstring is dumb since it doesnt do any damage, it CAN crit and cause deep wounds, nice for an Arms tree guy. Granted if Sunder Armor was cheap id spam that instead. I COULD spam rend for the same cost but I have a sneaking suspicion based off of lots of use that hamstring honestly forces dodge more often.

Im keeping The Shoveler for now because it was expensive and im planning to straddle the arms AND fury tree. Once rage is no longer completely dependant on my weapons damage output maybe ill switch to something heavier and a little slower. Using slam is so much work tho, the timing is too involved.

THATS MY TWO CENTS
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: BlackMage on February 24, 2007, 02:26:21 AM
they were quick to nerf druids.. fuckers!
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on February 24, 2007, 02:28:28 AM
Druids are getting nerfed? I know warriors are getting a buff to intercept/charge that lets them escape snares or something.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: BlackMage on February 24, 2007, 02:33:38 AM
 The rage normalization equation has been adjusted to grant more rage.
The typical player should see an increase of 15% to 20% in their
rage generation.

The typical druid will lose a great deal of rage because a great deal of a druids rage came from crit on swipes. Expect roughly 40% of your current rage.
- "Savage Fury" no longer affects "Mangle (Bear)".
- "Savage Fury" no longer applies to "Maul" or "Swipe".
This is what kills the druid rage, adding the rage will help those protection warriors get rage, which is great for them. Imagine your rage as slightly better than a protection warriors because that is what we will now be getting as rage.


- "Dire Bear Form" now grants 25% increased stamina instead of 25%
increased health. In addition, the armor bonus has been reduced from
450% to 400%.
Kiss a few k hp goodbye.
Most druids will lose around 2k armor. The ones near the cap will lose about 5k armor. if you have decent gear you can probably just subtract about 3k from your current armor total.

- The multiplier on base weapon damage for "Mangle (Bear)" ability has
been changed from 130% to 100%. In addition, the bonus damage has
been reduced by the same ratio.
Subtract 33% from your current Mangles.


- The critical damage bonus on "Predatory Instincts" reduced from
3/6/9/12/15% to 2/4/6/8/10%.
Subtract 5% from your current crit totals (even cats). Also, subtract 38% from your current Mangles, thats your new total.

- "Improved Leader of the Pack" can no longer get critical heals.
so our less rage, less swipe bears get even less hp back, which was already nurfed by having less HP.

So in essence..
Druids lose
a ton of rage
a ton of HP
a ton of armor
a ton of damage
some hp regin on leader of the pack.

100% every single aspect of druids being a tank was nurfed. Good druids will still be good druids and bad ones will still be bad ones. Bottom line fact is, this was a huge nurf.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on February 24, 2007, 02:36:33 AM
Druids were also completely OPed, being better healers than priests and better tanks than Warriors. IMO as long as Druids are where they were pre TBC things are ok with the world.

A class shouldnt make two other classes completely useless ;-)
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: BlackMage on February 24, 2007, 02:39:05 AM
Druids were also completely OPed, being better healers than priests and better tanks than Warriors. IMO as long as Druids are where they were pre TBC things are ok with the world.

A class shouldnt make two other classes completely useless ;-)

yes, i agree we were a little OP, however, you don't think this is a bit much?
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on February 24, 2007, 02:41:05 AM
a little OP? lol

I think the changes are big, I think the amount of changes goes against blizzards statement that they wouldn't be doing complete class reviews and I think Druids should get a free respec, but Warriors NEED to be Warriors or wtf are we? Feral druids as they were caused Warriors to be IGNORED in PVE for a role they were CREATED FOR.

I dont care if you guys are better than priests tho. I cant find a Holy Priest out there to heal me to save my fuckin life.

Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: BlackMage on February 24, 2007, 02:44:23 AM
a little OP? lol

I think the changes are big, I think the amount of changes goes against blizzards statement that they wouldn't be doing complete class reviews and I think Druids should get a free respec, but Warriors NEED to be Warriors or wtf are we? Feral druids as they were caused Warriors to be IGNORED in PVE

well if this patch goes through, you definitely wont have to worry about it anymore. We will be as viable a tank as a hunter's pet. FYI, this makes us a worse tank then pre BC.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on February 24, 2007, 02:56:23 AM
Well now Druids get to have the 'forum where everyone hates their class'.

Warriors were never on top, I dont know why they had to hit the very bottom at all. In the World of Rangecraft we have enough problems as it is.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: BlackMage on February 24, 2007, 03:01:00 AM
This is why i quit my warrior. It's like a rollercoaster ride with them. Blizzard never balances them properly. It's either gimp or "OP".
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on February 24, 2007, 03:03:08 AM
Warriors are never OP they're just in the middle or the bottom ;-)
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: BlackMage on February 24, 2007, 03:08:03 AM
Warriors are never OP they're just in the middle or the bottom ;-)

thats why i put it in quotes. here's the thing. Warriors are completely dependent on gear. Pre-nerf, warriors were, i thought, pretty balanced. Then, higher level gear came out, and the whopping 1% of the warrior population became decked out and started making pvp videos of them owning everything. then the whining came, and blizzard, of course, caters to the whiners. the end.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on February 24, 2007, 03:11:04 AM
Well then you have the frost mages two-three shotting warriors in Eye of the Storm apparently lol. Things are pretty fucked PVP wise. Blizzard has created a smokescreen saying they balance for the Group PVP not the 1v1 PVP which is hilarious cause balancing for Group PVP is way harder to balance since it depends on class popularity.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Disposable White Guy on February 24, 2007, 04:11:57 AM
The only problem I had with warriors way back when was the way Sweeping Strikes worked.  All Blizzard had to do was fix that and shrug off all the whiners whining about how the gear made warriors unstoppable whirlwinds of carnage and mayhem.  Instead, they gave everyone a class that has the highest potential with the biggest crutch.

PVP itself has just gotten progressively worse.  It's definitely more casual now, which is both good and bad.  Good because, well, grinding out ranks was just fucking distinguished mentally-challenged with the way it worked before they instituted the "Honor Point purchasing" system.  Bad because these people ultimately dictate the way the game works now, and if you can't beat every single class in every single situation every single time, then there's obviously something wrong with the class that needs to be nerfed or buffed or whatever.  Even the Arena, where having or not having a paladin on your team virtually dictates the victory or loss of a match, has horrible, horrible balancing issues because there's no buffer zone to give certain players the edge they've always had over other players, like using the terrain or engineering.  It's just a who can blow their cooldowns faster and can crit more festival.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: etiolate on February 25, 2007, 01:13:30 AM
The rage normalization equation has been adjusted to grant more rage.
The typical player should see an increase of 15% to 20% in their
rage generation.

The typical druid will lose a great deal of rage because a great deal of a druids rage came from crit on swipes. Expect roughly 40% of your current rage.
- "Savage Fury" no longer affects "Mangle (Bear)".
- "Savage Fury" no longer applies to "Maul" or "Swipe".
This is what kills the druid rage, adding the rage will help those protection warriors get rage, which is great for them. Imagine your rage as slightly better than a protection warriors because that is what we will now be getting as rage.


- "Dire Bear Form" now grants 25% increased stamina instead of 25%
increased health. In addition, the armor bonus has been reduced from
450% to 400%.
Kiss a few k hp goodbye.
Most druids will lose around 2k armor. The ones near the cap will lose about 5k armor. if you have decent gear you can probably just subtract about 3k from your current armor total.

- The multiplier on base weapon damage for "Mangle (Bear)" ability has
been changed from 130% to 100%. In addition, the bonus damage has
been reduced by the same ratio.
Subtract 33% from your current Mangles.


- The critical damage bonus on "Predatory Instincts" reduced from
3/6/9/12/15% to 2/4/6/8/10%.
Subtract 5% from your current crit totals (even cats). Also, subtract 38% from your current Mangles, thats your new total.

- "Improved Leader of the Pack" can no longer get critical heals.
so our less rage, less swipe bears get even less hp back, which was already nurfed by having less HP.

So in essence..
Druids lose
a ton of rage
a ton of HP
a ton of armor
a ton of damage
some hp regin on leader of the pack.

100% every single aspect of druids being a tank was nurfed. Good druids will still be good druids and bad ones will still be bad ones. Bottom line fact is, this was a huge nurf.

jesus wtf

I was thinking of going feral because I had been tanking lately due to my increased health and armor, but now..

Blizzard is just pvp distinguished mentally-challenged.  All their pvp brain trust obviously went to GW. Just balance things and understand that balance is a flatline idea, not this stock market rise and crash viability thing they do, where certain classes destroy at levels and after certain updates, then become nothing later. Seriously.  WoW has only 9 classes and those 9 classes, in the end, all use the same three types of damage, aoe, direct damage and dot.  The only thing that changes between a hunter's sting and a Warlock's curse is the type and number.  So you already have all this similarity helping you balance... and yet you can't do it?
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on February 25, 2007, 01:23:15 AM
Sorry druids, this is exactly what Warriors have been going through. Hope you enjoyed yer OPed feral form for a few weeks ;-)

Consequently I started a druid, pointers etiolate?
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: etiolate on February 25, 2007, 01:53:34 AM
Well they needed to do something to feral, but what they needed to do was drop the damage a bit, not the HP/Armor bonus.  A warrior will out aggro a bearform, so that is one advantage, if you make it so Warriors outdo damage wise, then you have an even tradeoff between a feral druid and a Warrior. Damage vs Extra Armor, and the reduced damage would balance out ferals in pvp, who can dps and heal, would then be moderate dps and heal. I just don't like the reduced armor and health. Plus, unless the druid has the nice middleground gear (wildheart, pvp sets, this new dreanic set) then they lose either a lof of mana or a lot of damage if they are in the wrong gear.  Feral gear = 2k mana for me. Caster gear = 30dps loss in damage as feral. I was fighting a frost mage and I either couldn't do enough damage or he could outlast me(duh) because of which gear I used.

As for starting a druid, its like other classes where you decide what type you want to be and then go with that. I like druid, because you need to know how to play every class and then adjust to the situation. I've made 3 druids, one to like lvl 20, one to 30 and now this 60.  For everyone, I invested at least 1 point into nature's grasp as a talent, even if I wasn't Balance.  It's just a handy little trick to have. Early on, you'll rely on casting spells and rooting enemies. Then soloing with bear, then soloing with cat. 

PvP wise, feral is/was nice. What I dod a lot is land the first hit in cat form, maybe stick my bleeds onto the target, shift out and heal if I need to, then go to bear form and finish them off. Moonkin spam is for runners/finishing someone off, but is mana costly. If you go far with the druid, you'll need two sets of armor,  Casting and Feral. Balance is kind of nice because then you can just rely on one set mostly, with int and +spell damage boosts. You will get asked to tank AND to heal eventually.  Even though I'm mostly rest, I've both tanked and healed ievery nstance from SM to BRD.

Also another talent I like, which I think they should put back in balance, is Omen of Clarity. It gives you a free skill use on proc, and is very useful in bear and catform, and nice in moonkin.  Pretty useless as a healer though.  Most of my soloing and pvp damage relies on two rest talents, Omen of Clarity procs and another that gives +10% damage in all forms.

Druid tanking you need to use your taunt, and when you lose aggro and they run, your bash and then retaunt.  Druid healing you rely on Healing over Time spells like rejuv and regrowth.  Early on, Healing touch is okay, but the 3 sec cast(with talent reduction that is, longer than that without the talent investment) is too long for important heals. Regrowth is like a healing touch split in half, so that plus rejuv and you can heal over various damages.  You still will use healing touch when you need emergency big heals, and I think it's rather lame Tree form can't use Healing Touch, but blah. Catform is just playing a rogue without vanish and saps. Shred = backstab, ferioucs bite = eviscerate, ravage = ambush.  But early on your cat skills are limited and you're one finishing move a dot.

Oh and of course, druids are the best flagrunners in WSG.  You invest in the feral speed boost and you can pwn the 20, 30 and maybe 40 brackets. You stealth in, grab flag, kitty/cheetah zoom across the map and then protect yourself in bear form.  You run in like a rogue, out like mr. speed boots and back home like a warrior. And all those dots you use to put on runners as a warlock? Well druid can hot right over them. Just get use to quickly shapeshifting to free yourself of movement slowing effects. SHapeshifting gets rid of every movement effect except a freeze trap or stun. So if a mage frost novas you, just shift out, if you have crippling poison on you, shift out, curse of exhaustion, shift out. Just don't overshift yourself out of mana.  Cheetah form is pretty cheap mana wise, so its easier to cheetah shift back and forth, but bear and cat get costly.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on February 25, 2007, 02:22:33 AM
Feral performance as it currently stands makes warriors useless in PVE, and combined with the druids already nuts healing abilities, makes them pretty cheesy in PVP.

Druids had a nerf coming.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: cubicle47b on February 25, 2007, 02:33:52 AM
Bear form needed a serious damage nerf but Blizzard didn't make up for the damage loss with threat multipliers so druid tanks are going to be nearly as viable.  Fix that and druids are now fine.  Mangle + ILoTP crit heals + outlands gear was just absurd.  My friend would come out of fights with 5-6 mobs his level with full health.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: etiolate on February 25, 2007, 02:58:37 AM
Yeah feral druids needed a nerf, I am just saying they didn't need to nerf everything about it, just the damage they did. Part of their survivalbility was critting + ilotp heals. Blizz just nerfed every aspect of feral without putting much thought into it.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on February 25, 2007, 03:20:12 AM
Blizzard doesnt know how to nerf one broken thing. They know how to nerf a whole area that includes that thing, and then gasp when people freak out lol.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: etiolate on February 25, 2007, 09:33:36 AM
I'm going to start spamming Guild Wars love gpp all over the place now because of this druid castration. 
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on February 25, 2007, 11:26:03 AM
real mature
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Disposable White Guy on February 25, 2007, 05:08:45 PM
Ferlol druids didn't need to be nerfed back to being an extra person to de-curse and run WSG flags  :lol

omgomg armr n stam n stuf is way op u fuks r asshols cuz u can tnk raid bosses n live lng tiem n shit

Like it's been said a million times before, all they needed was a damage nerf in bear form.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on February 25, 2007, 05:45:47 PM
SOMEONE was a druid lol
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Disposable White Guy on February 25, 2007, 06:21:31 PM
No, but considering I started the game as an Alliance warlock, easily the most amfukt combo when the game released, I sympathize when classes become close to useless.

They're taking away the shadow priest crit healing thinger too, I think.  That kinda blows too.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Fragamemnon on February 25, 2007, 06:33:00 PM
Worst nerf Blizzard ever did was to Necromancers in D2!

That being said, I would hate having to manage the nerfs against priests, one of the two classes in the game (other being rogues) that seem to have a community existing solely of insane prima donnas.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Disposable White Guy on February 25, 2007, 06:36:36 PM
And how!
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on February 25, 2007, 06:43:12 PM
Haha well im mostly teasing anyway. I just hang out in the WoW Warrior forums too much where in a day it went from Druids saying we needed a buff to them cursing us for being nerfed.

How did they THINK it was going to happen? Classes cant just get buffed into the infinite.

And also yes, the Necromancer situation in Diablo II was bad for most of its lifetime until they buffed poisons in that one patch so they did hilariously buffed damage.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Disposable White Guy on February 25, 2007, 07:05:37 PM
Just like warlocks!

I think your problem is that you actually read the official class forums, where people go to blow off steam when their shit doesn't drop in The Molten Temple of Shadowed Time & Space Arboretum.  Like this one guy who posts here!
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on February 25, 2007, 08:31:36 PM
theyre fun to read, and sometimes informative..that is if you can parse through the 'lrn2play' replies.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: BlackMage on February 26, 2007, 12:12:45 AM
+10% resistance oh my!... worthless
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: BlackMage on February 26, 2007, 02:44:27 PM
It's not worthless.

you'll see.. or rather you won't see
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 26, 2007, 02:45:53 PM
I haven't been able to play all week lol
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Disposable White Guy on February 26, 2007, 02:49:34 PM
Last night, I came to the conclusion that the Arena kinda blows :-\ Dueling with teams got old pretty quick, though I do like how you're not required to grind it endlessly in order to make progress.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Van Cruncheon on February 26, 2007, 10:59:54 PM
you fuckin' suck is why. lrn2play indeed. how you suck at being a pally is beyond me; my carebear sis-in-law can still own in bg with her pally, and she's honestly terrible.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: etiolate on February 27, 2007, 08:49:09 AM
As a pally you should learn to keep your mana up pretty good, as you mostly outlast things. You can go for the big judgment bombs or whatever if you want I suppose. I've never playd a pally past lvl 20 though.

A fight between me and a pally takes forever.  Rest druid vs pally lasts long enough till someone else comes along to double team the other. Unfortunately for me, I'm always the one who gets doubel teamed after a 5 minute tank-out.

Rogues are no problem until they get very high and just keep me stunlocked forever. Until that point, the battle lasts long enough till I put on hots and go bear form adn then it's over. Mages depend on their spec, frost mages are tough due to survivability and dps. Hunters I destroy, Warriors I just root and keep them rooted. Warlocks depend on their type, afflic is annoying right now and its double annoying with the belf racial. I hardly fight priests alone so I don't know.

Today I had a little raid in Hillsbrad.  First time as a 60, which use to mean more, but now just means I'm one of the higher levels but not the highest. I still was destroying shit alll over and they could just not kill me, they had a 59 hunter and 64 pally and I had guards on me and lowbies and I just bear'd them down.  The pally pulled the bubblehearth. Things turned when horde 70s showed up. Untilt hat point I was one hitting 45s and just outlasting everything. I killed the 70 rogue twice with a few other lower lvl feral druids helping, but they had a 70 balance druid that was hitting me for 2k+ on starfire.

I also figured out how to solo take down towers in AV.  I burned four towers as the ONLY person on offense.  Alliance *shakes head*.  Anyways, as a druid its pretty easy.  You either nuke the normal npc infront of the tower flag, or if it's an elite guard you have them chase you out of the base, root them outside and then stroll back in to cap the flag.

And Outlands questing is way better than high level dungeons.  I really don't find the overly long dungeon runs that take hours fun at all.  I do them because theres hardly any healers at my level bracket, but I rather just quest in Outland and give the quest gear and green drops. The last instance I enjoyed was ZF. I've run two of the hellfire instances already, and it's just feels like more of the same old crap.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on February 27, 2007, 10:50:30 AM
PVP takes a lot of time to get good at. I've done well over a years worth as a rogue and a warlock and some as a warrior. Stick to WSG and learn the ropes. Arathi Basin doesnt get interesting until 40s when people have mounts.

Traditionally tho a Paladin rarely kills me. They just dont have the DPS to really put down good players on their own without wiping out their cooldowns and whatnot. What I HAVE seen is 3 horde warriors chasing a paladin all over the map just trying to kill him because its just that hard against a good player.

Paladins are about survivability, which can be capitalized on in WSG tremendously. Any other battleground I recommend you find yourself a warrior buddy, it works pretty well.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: BlackMage on February 27, 2007, 05:14:27 PM
I made a hunter :x
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Disposable White Guy on February 27, 2007, 06:11:03 PM
Arathi Basin doesnt get interesting until 40s when people have mounts.

Arathi Basin sucks without a premade, or at least a handful of friends to dick around with :-\
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on February 27, 2007, 06:15:34 PM
I think games of AB before level 40 depend on having a set group of friends, but the addition of mounts at level 40 make it MUCH easier to compensate for people dicking around because they arent in a cohesive group.

WSG is my home tho, forever. Its the dedust of WoW.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: etiolate on February 27, 2007, 08:13:14 PM
WSG is still the most fun for me.  AB follows the same pattern no matter if I warn people of exactly whats going to happen or not.  Alliance grabs stables, lm and mine. Horde grabs farm and blacksmith, everytime they zerg stables right afterwards and ally leaves nobody there.  Then it quickly turns into a slaughter after that.

Alterac Valley isn't even pvp, it's just a pug raid.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: etiolate on February 27, 2007, 09:01:30 PM
since I tarnished the thread with bitching, here's a video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-kfr3602ANI
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 28, 2007, 09:14:49 PM
 :(

Wow I'm still in Arathi trying to find people to do Stormgrade. Every group I join runs into horrible luck, whether it's the "hey guys I have to go to a meeting..." curse or the god damn Horde ganking us
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on February 28, 2007, 09:24:51 PM
Yeah the Horde and Alliance insignias are sorta essential
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on February 28, 2007, 09:41:01 PM
Id buy the bandages if youre a melee and potions if youre a caster. To be honest the health potions wont make a huge differencei n PVP because you have more than enough time to just bandage up with supplies from WSG or AB instead of chug a potion which iirc costs more...relatively speaking.

As a warrior I really only buy bandages for WSG, but now I can make bandanges better than WSG bandages so I stopped buying those too.

Honest to god tho if your team isnt keeping you healed, thats bad. Which means you really just would want mana potions I guess ;)
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on February 28, 2007, 09:49:52 PM
I thought they were cheaper, dont potions cost honor marks AND money?
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on March 01, 2007, 12:58:55 AM
oh, 1 hp? I thought it was more, potion then all the way ya.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Disposable White Guy on March 01, 2007, 02:25:32 AM
So Team Super Awesome is in the top ranks for our battlegroup now and I think we're going to call it quits due to the utter cheese factor.  Basically, people put together groups that consist of 1 druid, 1 paladin, 1 priest, 1 warrior, and 1 LOLDOESNTEVENMATTER, but usually a rogue.  The druid chains Cyclone on our paladin, which can't be removed since it's unclassified, the priest hits Prayer of Mending on people before getting one-shotted and shelling out free heals from its super angel healy thing, the paladin cleanses everything until he sees Unstable Affliction then bubbles and then cleanses everything, the warrior moves from target to target and bitches each one, and the rogue sits around in stealth listening to hardcore West Side rap music and getting a free crit in before the match ends.  I don't even know why I log on anymore.

So yeah, don't rush to 70.  Ever.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on March 01, 2007, 02:27:15 AM
Haha, I DO hear endless bitching about Arenas on the WoW forums.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Disposable White Guy on March 01, 2007, 02:30:55 AM
It was a really good idea on paper, and it was honestly lots of fun for a while, until all of the "zomgs bst pvparz in teh intarbutt" started showing up and raining on my fucking parade.  In the 19 matches we've done this week, the only really fun part was fighting Ming's team and bending them over.  It was kinda like going back in time and punching Hitler in the uterus.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: whiteACID on March 01, 2007, 08:55:01 AM
Ah you fought Ming's team. I played on the same server as Ming and I remember doing bg's and dueling him. He's good, but he's not the best. He's just cocky and has a big mouth.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Disposable White Guy on March 01, 2007, 10:38:33 AM
I thought he was pretty terrible lol

First one to die.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: cubicle47b on March 01, 2007, 12:52:35 PM
Armory is fucking absurd.  It not only shows my character sheet, talent information, and all my guild members.  It has my current aura buff.

http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/#character-sheet.xml?r=Khaz+Modan&n=Esmi
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on March 01, 2007, 12:57:15 PM
it keeps throwing an error at me.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: cubicle47b on March 01, 2007, 01:13:54 PM
I changed the link slightly.  The search wasn't working for me so I used the query strings and instead of a '+' for the space in Khaz Modan I used '%20' at first.

If you're having a problem with the search too, just change the query string in the URL.  r=your realm, n=character name
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Disposable White Guy on March 01, 2007, 01:30:50 PM
That's weird.  I could've sworn we renamed the group to Team Super Awesome.  Oh well, here's us.

http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/#team-info.xml?b=Vindication&ts=5&t=Team+Serious+Business&select=Team+Serious+Business&fl=1 (http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/#team-info.xml?b=Vindication&ts=5&t=Team+Serious+Business&select=Team+Serious+Business&fl=1)

Not too terrible and not too great.  Most of us only care about quality matches, which so far has only been from Paradox and East Side Nagas.

http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/#character-sheet.xml?r=Eonar&n=Redeyees (http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/#character-sheet.xml?r=Eonar&n=Redeyees)

That's me in my nerdy glory.  So geeky that I traded my old Alliance lock for a Horde one lol
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on March 01, 2007, 01:49:40 PM
http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/#character-sheet.xml?r=Muradin&n=Auchentoshan is my warrior
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: cubicle47b on March 04, 2007, 02:03:44 AM
(http://i12.tinypic.com/484cttw.jpg)

I grabbed the robe from the last boss in Steamvaults because it looked cool so here's me standing around bored in Org.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: etiolate on March 04, 2007, 11:29:16 AM
cubicle left us to make a belf

*shakes head*

I got a story though.

Sometimes I forget that most everyone in this game is far under the age of 18. Yesterday, a pally from our guild and I were 2-man-ing Dire Maul and found a 'rare' spawn Razaa in the Maul area.  We were 62 and 61 and it was a 60 elite, so we thought we'd give it a try.  It went rather well and we got two blue boe items from it.  So today, after spending all night in Scholo trying to finish off his Paladin quest and getting nothing but shaman tier gear and cloth tier stuff, which the Warlock in the group got, and still not finishing his quest, we decide to go back to DM and kill Razaa again.  So we get there, we're doing the same routine of alternately tanking and healing, and he's going down faster this time and then this dwarf hunter shows up.  The dwarves pet attacks the pally, which I giess was a snafu on the hunter's part and then we both die and the hunter is just kiting the boss.  So we come back and now there's a 60 dwarf Pally there, and I remark to him not to kill us as we jump down and we go back to killing Razaa.  Then a 70 priest shows up and he and the pally kill us. Then the priest whispers me to leave because he's corpse camping us. And I'm like wtf? Why for? He says we ganked him, which I asked how and he says he thought the hunter was with us and I said no, but he and the pally still decide to corpse camp us. So we end up rezing and attacking them, because they keep ganking us and the priest keeps whispering me that they aren't even bothering with razaa.and just camping our corpses. I then notice it's the same guild that I've helped heal for and the guild the warlock was in that we got his tier stuff for. So I tell him it makes no sense and it doesn't look good on him or his guild. And so he says "We're the best, it doesn't matter".  I'm like... what are you on a WoW box of cerial or something? Anyways, they are afraid to attack razaa because we'll return the favor and jump them, so they wait for a 70 pally to come help them and then they start on Razaa and kill him. The priest then whispers me the loot they got and is rather proud of themselves for it.  So I say, grats on the stolen blues.  I guess this pissed them off, because then I have another person from their guild whispering me and talking trash. I tell him the story, and then their story changes over and over and it's obvious they were there to gank the hunter and us and whoever was there and that there was no fair play about it. Meanwhile, their supposed GM of their guild is angry because I said they stole the blues. "We're not ninjas! We're awesome!" etc etc.  So I say fine, whatever I don't care, I'll kill him tomorrow. But he keeps whispering me and so I say I'm not healing for his guild's groups anymore because his guildies made up bad stories for lame tactics. Then he goes off on how awesome they are again and I'm not even responding to him much anymore.  I just type the ... in response to his rant and he puts me on ignore. This whole time he is typing, likes this ?? ok !! to me butthurts cry cry.

Anyways, if theres only 1 or 2 healers in a level bracket, don't piss them off or you won't get dungeon runs anymore. Especially if you don't trust your 70 shadowpriest to heal for something two 60s were doing by themselves.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: cubicle47b on March 04, 2007, 03:07:57 PM
Actually, I started my alliance character as a test to see whether I liked paladins enough to switch mains.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on March 04, 2007, 03:37:24 PM
I love my warrior despite people saying they suck a lot, I still clean up in PVP....if im willing to die a bit ;)
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Disposable White Guy on March 04, 2007, 04:22:27 PM
The very well-hidden secret of the World of Warcraft is that warriors > * when it comes to PVP.  The catch is that you need gear.  You might also need to be Korean too, I'm not sure.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on March 04, 2007, 04:26:27 PM
my gear IS pretty nice for my level. Its all from AH tho, about half blues, half nice greens. Havent been able to find decent equipment upgrades for a while. Im level 35 and STILL using Combatant Claymore just cause its dps and stats are so nice.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Disposable White Guy on March 04, 2007, 07:36:55 PM
But are you Korean?  I'm pretty sure that's the secret weapon to becoming and unstoppable killing machine at higher levels.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on March 04, 2007, 07:50:39 PM
Haha, no, ill probably still be somewhat stoppable.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Disposable White Guy on March 04, 2007, 11:46:21 PM
You also need, like 50 gazillion trinkets.  It's kinda lame, really.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on March 05, 2007, 12:18:15 AM
one for every occation :(
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Disposable White Guy on March 06, 2007, 01:38:14 PM
I think you need more barrel rolls.

Why are you agility+strength and not stamina+strength?
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on March 06, 2007, 01:53:24 PM
Tiger is agility strength.

Dont make the mistake of going for crit chance all the way tho. A warrior can get an extra 5% from cruelty and have SOME agility to hover around a decent percentile. The mistake most warriors make is that they dont know when to stop.

Im currently resting at 12.33% chance to crit, and you know what? Thats ENOUGH. As long as my weapon speed is decent and im spamstringing im getting plenty of opportunities for a good crit and Imp Overpower gets that extra what...60% chance?

That being said I currently have a stat bonus distribution of Strength and Stamina being even, and agility being half that. The armor bonus from agility isnt really worth it since you'll be getting all the armor that matters from items, and that critting only REALLY hurts if you hit hard in the first place ;)
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Disposable White Guy on March 06, 2007, 02:34:15 PM
The distribution of agility points into crit % is 20:1 on a warrior, if I'm not mistaken.  This is why warriors usually go with gear that's stamina/strength/crit, as the distribution of points is typically better than gear with stam/str/agi.  This number doesn't change with levels, except maybe after 60 where Critical Rating decreases your actual crit % by a fraction for every level after 60.

Keeping that in mind, MAF's right.  A little agility here and there is alright (something that has stamina, strength, and agility all on one piece for example) but for the most part, you want to stick with stam and str as your primary stat choices.  There just isn't enough "quality" gear at pre-60+ levels to warrant taking agility over either other stat.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on March 06, 2007, 03:52:57 PM
I only really gain agility from rings and my cloak. I think ive found the perfect balance in gear with agil/str and gear with stam/str so as I level up I will continue only replacing stam/str armor with stam/str armor, and the same with agil/str.

My crit chance will most likely continue to hover around 12-15%, but I hear of warriors aiming for like 19% but not keeping DPS where it needs to be just for that extra 5% chance. I also agree about the lack of quality gear pre-60. I almost always have 12-20 gold from mining and im not only finding a lack of skills I actually use at even levels to buy, but also an extreme lack of equipment variety for an arms warrior.

Here's what I have right now (actually it looks like it still needs to update for last nights new sword and boots):

http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/#character-sheet.xml?r=Muradin&n=Auchentoshan

I finally upgraded from combatant claymore, which was a FANTASTIC two-hand sword from levels 28-36. My new sword has a very slight speed loss but the DPS is still higher (ever so slightly) but instead of good stamina and a useless spirit gain I get NICE stam/str gain from the new sword.

There are so few GOOD weapons to buy between 28-36
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on March 06, 2007, 05:27:27 PM
OMG warriors getting a buff. According to tseric on the Warrior forums the latest patch (I think its todays in fact)

Makes Thunderclap usable in Def stance AND it generates more rage. This makes Arms tanking even more viable if its called for.

Also Unbridled Wrath apparently scales UP in percentage chance with slower weapons.

They also recalculated rage generation so warriors of any tree should be generating 15-20% more rage :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: etiolate on March 06, 2007, 05:32:50 PM
I just checked my stats in Dire Bear to see the reductions. My armor dropped by 1k and my hp by 400. I had been the makeshift tank for the guild until the Warrior levels up(he's about 4-5 lvls below me), but now my stats aren't any better than his and my aggro drawing ability much less. I think that cuts it out for scholo runs for now.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on March 06, 2007, 05:42:04 PM
I dont get why they took away armor and HP from the druid, thats kinda silly.

Druids in PVP wont give a shit tho, they usually just use cat form for its DPS, bear is rarely used effectively unless they are camping the flag in a cold war situation and need someone that will survive a massive assault.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Disposable White Guy on March 06, 2007, 05:58:16 PM
Actually, until today, druids would PVP in bear form and do rather well, what with the way their damage abilities worked stacked with insanely high armor and HP.  I guess now they're back to rogues that cast Entangling Roots then run away once they get hit a few times.

When I logged on a night or two ago, the tank for this guild was talking about how Improved Battle Shout works with Commanding Shout now.  I think it adds like 1080 HP at 70 now or something.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Disposable White Guy on March 06, 2007, 07:25:23 PM
Stamina's never useless in PVP!  Armor means jack shit when you're fighting a caster.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on March 07, 2007, 12:12:44 AM
Eh, id try and limit your tiger equipment to a few items, you want stam/str to make up most of your armor set. Also if your 2H just put the points into the parry talent and leave it at that. You don't really want a warrior that dodges a lot since it makes you weak against other warriors and does jack shit against casters, while stamina adds hp that will soak caster bolts.

Im a 2H warrior and dodge really means jack shit to me in PVP and I dominate. I mean my armor still soaks up 32% which is honestly fine because I kill things REALLY fast. If youre trying to be a tank for PVE youre the wrong spec anyway.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Disposable White Guy on March 07, 2007, 12:25:16 AM
Elemental mages are still nuts, even though everyone's bitching about stuff that I haven't kept up with over the past month.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on March 07, 2007, 12:44:54 AM
Im actually more afraid of mages right now than locks. Fear chaining sucks n all, but some of the mage nukes that have been critting me have made me cry for mercy.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on March 07, 2007, 01:12:17 AM
Ugg just fought a group in PVP that was nothing but twinked out mages, and of course alliance brought all their warriors. Level 30-39 bracket you can just GUESS who won that exchange :(
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Disposable White Guy on March 07, 2007, 01:16:00 AM
I think I'm going to make a mage on a PVP server and just disappear from my old one.  They're all cockfags anyway :-\
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on March 07, 2007, 11:45:30 AM
Dunno. I started a pally on the side since ive NEVER made one. No clue what to do with it when I hit 10 lol.

I would say to, as a rule, keep armor above 30% always, and focus on DPS if youre going to go 2-hand arms or fury.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: cubicle47b on March 07, 2007, 01:11:21 PM
Defense is useful if you're tanking higher level instances.  A defense of 490 (max defense at 70 is 350) will keep you from being crit by level 73 mobs which in many cases would instagib you.  It also ups your dodge, block, and parry by .04% per defense over the max defense for your level.  It's not that useful outside of instances as you'd much rather have damage gear than mitigation and I'm pretty sure it's ignored in PVP.

Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: cubicle47b on March 07, 2007, 01:14:52 PM
I haven't played a warrior in a year and a half but I couldn't live without tactical mastery.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on March 07, 2007, 01:55:00 PM
I dont change stances that often, I probably will at higher level battlegrounds, but right now it isnt required.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Disposable White Guy on March 07, 2007, 03:18:33 PM
You don't switch to Defensive when a mage or warlock is about to nuke you? :wag
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on March 07, 2007, 03:35:46 PM
No, PVP is way too fluid for multiple stance changes right now. Im usually fighting a mage a rogue a hunter a hunter a warlock. Group PVP is a little too hairy to random to kit or play to defeat a specific class. The mage that nuked me in the previous story was behind me, I was off trying to finish off a hunter.

Plus def stance robs me of almost all of my favorite things which is annoying. TC moving to def is nice but even so. I usually deal 30k damage a WSG match right now, swapping stances would probably hurt my output and destroy any chances I have of beating twinks HP down to 0.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: cubicle47b on March 07, 2007, 03:55:17 PM
You've got to be changing between berserker and battle stance, though.  Berserker has intercept, whirlwind, and berserker rage.  Battle stance has charge and overpower.  Rage management is essential and stance dancing is one of the keys to being a good warrior.  I just don't see how anyone can live without that 3 point talent.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on March 07, 2007, 04:47:28 PM
I havent needed to yet really. You can ask Drinky but im usually top of the charts.

Im sure that'll change at higher levels, but thats when i'll probably change too. Right now the situation just isnt calling for it.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Van Cruncheon on March 07, 2007, 05:27:08 PM
he's usually top of the charts, especially for damage.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on March 07, 2007, 05:42:01 PM
Well if it makes the WoW nerd gods happy im in the WoW Warrior forum getting educated on how to use zerk stance. Doesnt hurt I guess.

If tactical mastery is in the prot tree im not sure I wanna do it, its gonna be hard enough stradling fury and arms.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Disposable White Guy on March 07, 2007, 06:18:35 PM
You don't get any really cool build choices until 60+ anyway, so you might as well pick up TM, get 5/5 Cruelty and put the rest into Arms.

Quote
A nice trick I have learned is if their pet is near them when charging hit challenging shout to force the pet to break the ice trap.

That's pretty slick advice btw lol
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on March 07, 2007, 06:37:37 PM
Haha I was in the warrior forum, some guy was bitching cause a mage cast detect magic on him when he used spell reflect so he could see all their buffs as they destroyed him with magic.

Im actually going to opt out on Tact Mast and just do my Arms/Fury build. I REALLY want piercing howl for pvp, and maybe enrage to boot. Ill climb up the Arms tree for MS and stop there probably.

A lot of warrior builds I see poo poo BOTH Rampage and Endless Rage. After the latest rage buff for warriors I pretty almost got a 25% increase in rage generation for free anyway.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Disposable White Guy on March 07, 2007, 10:03:57 PM
So I made a new mage on one of those fresh new PVP servers, The Underbog (lulz ran out of names I guess) and I've found out that, literally, all of the best PVPers from Skullcrusher transferred to this server when the free transfer was made available.  CORPSE CAMPED ALL THE TIEM OMG
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on March 10, 2007, 06:28:59 PM
Started a pally for kicks. My warrior is 37 right now but I wanted an alt while the warrior is generating rest exp ;)

Ive never made a pallywinbutton class but im finding there's actually a lot of work to being a pally :(

Pointers?
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on March 10, 2007, 07:02:40 PM
Made lots of progress today. I need to get my blacksmithing skills up, so I worked on that and now I'm almost to 100 (lol). But mainly I did a LOT of mining and put a bunch of stuff on auction.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on March 10, 2007, 08:52:50 PM
I hadn't been playing much cause I need RAM, but right now I can't buy it; have more important things to buy right now :(

Plus I got real bored. I'm in Southshore/Arathi/Alterac reigons, and I didn't really know where I should go next. I was told that horde territory is the next place to go, but I don't want to go there until I get more RAM. Basically my screen starts going hella slow and freezing whenever lots of horde are in the area.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on March 10, 2007, 09:05:21 PM
I got owned by a level 33 blood elf paladin today; I'm lv36. That pissed me off so much that I went and bought a good 2H axe which I'll now using for solo'ing; I'll use the shield/weak ass 1H axe for groups.

Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: etiolate on March 10, 2007, 10:00:44 PM
I got owned by a level 33 blood elf paladin today; I'm lv36. That pissed me off so much that I went and bought a good 2H axe which I'll now using for solo'ing; I'll use the shield/weak ass 1H axe for groups.



Dude, just do your warrior quest for that hurricane axe!
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on March 10, 2007, 11:06:50 PM
I got owned by a level 33 blood elf paladin today; I'm lv36. That pissed me off so much that I went and bought a good 2H axe which I'll now using for solo'ing; I'll use the shield/weak ass 1H axe for groups.



Dude, just do your warrior quest for that hurricane axe!

It's too hard.  :lol
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on March 10, 2007, 11:15:30 PM
Hurricane axe sux, I beat up a bunch of people using that weird looking thing all the time. They am lose total.

Combatant Claymore was my 2-H weapon of choice from levels 28-35. Its high speed for a 2h couldnt be beat and the stam boost was decent. I mainly liked it for the lubly dps.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: etiolate on March 11, 2007, 09:03:59 PM
ruzbeh, they aren't dolls

Some pics

(http://www.mapored.com/etiolate/treeme.jpg)
Yes, I am a tree now. Level 64 treeing it up. I'm not sure if I will keep this spec or respec and stay heal.  Tree is just so GIMPED. The healing 41 point talents seem to suck for Druid and Priest. I have a mana reduction cost and some bonus healing, but I can only cast HoTs and have a speed reduction.

I was racing lowbies in Goldshire for 20 silver if they beat me in tree form. After losing to a level 6 Paladin, I realized I would never win such a race. So I switched it to dueling me in tree form as a I wielded a fishing pole.  That I could win.

(http://www.mapored.com/etiolate/kateground1.jpg)
My lvl19 Shaman.  So far the name hasn't been reported.

(http://www.mapored.com/etiolate/angryhorde.jpg)
This was weird. in my defense, all I had killed that day was a 55 Tauren in Eastern Plaguelands while I was trying to take one of the towers.  He was only 4 levels below me, but I guess it really pissed him off.

Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: whiteACID on March 12, 2007, 10:06:09 AM
So stop playing jesus fuck. It doesn't matter what your warrior looks like, if you ever actually get a character past lvl 40 you'll get gear that covers up their features anyways.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on March 12, 2007, 01:21:03 PM
I GOT CHEATED I'M A DUMBASS :lol

Ok so I was in SW minding my own business when I noticed someone was offering enchants on armor. Approached him and asked what the prices were, and he said he'd enchant my cloak and shield for 3g. I figured cool, I have 7g and a bunch of stuff on the AH, so this will be fine.

So he asks me to pay him the 3g, and I did. THEN he's like "oh, I need to go get the propers mats brb" so he runs to the AH. He procedes to continuing coming back to me than running back to the AH, over and over. Finally he has his mats and asks me to give him my cloak. I do, and he enchants it. Then when I say "ok, now for the shield" he asks for 3g. Being a complete DUMBASS I give him the gold, utterly forgetting I already paid him half an hour ago. He enchants it and runs off.

Only later do I realize shit, I'm out of 6 gold! Now I'm poor as fuck, and almost lv37. To make matters worse my stuff on the AH hasn't sold lol omg. 
 :rofl
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Disposable White Guy on March 12, 2007, 06:43:39 PM
My paladin is level 41, miss negative nancy. And it's boring total.

I can't stand little things in games that are just plain WRONG. When I had a long hair night elf, and I have a 2H sword, the sword would go right into my hair. That's just fucking wrong, man. It's almost like a bug.

You certainly seem a bit agitated over the fact that I deleted my character... but whatever. I canceled my WoW subscription because I'm bored by it. I'm gonna play some Guild Wars. I don't think I'll ever get back in WoW because I've already seen so much of the world already.

You're essentially playing the same fucking game now, with a shittier world environment :-\
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: etiolate on March 12, 2007, 08:37:01 PM
My paladin is level 41, miss negative nancy. And it's boring total.

I can't stand little things in games that are just plain WRONG. When I had a long hair night elf, and I have a 2H sword, the sword would go right into my hair. That's just fucking wrong, man. It's almost like a bug.

You certainly seem a bit agitated over the fact that I deleted my character... but whatever. I canceled my WoW subscription because I'm bored by it. I'm gonna play some Guild Wars. I don't think I'll ever get back in WoW because I've already seen so much of the world already.

You're essentially playing the same fucking game now, with a shittier world environment :-\

Nah Guild Wars is better and rather different from WoW.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Disposable White Guy on March 13, 2007, 12:21:38 AM
I guess there have been drastic changes to Guild Wars since I left it.  The whole Ender's Game thing where groups run at each other and "PVP" not only got boring extremely fast (CTF oh I mean Capture the Relic thing was poorly designed with horrible maps) but it's also what the PVP system in WoW has become; Duels.  Duels with groups!  JAWESOME!

Considering that the Arena system wasn't implemented back then, I'll agree that GW was slightly different from WoW, otherwise I saw little difference.  Oh, it was prettier.  And really Asian.  And the default UI sucked.

SHOW ME WHAT I HAVE MISSED ALL THIS TIME
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: cubicle47b on March 13, 2007, 02:40:15 AM
Quote
I can't stand little things in games that are just plain WRONG. When I had a long hair night elf, and I have a 2H sword, the sword would go right into my hair. That's just fucking wrong, man. It's almost like a bug.

Kill yourself.  Or at the very least don't breed.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: etiolate on March 13, 2007, 09:23:50 AM
I guess there have been drastic changes to Guild Wars since I left it.  The whole Ender's Game thing where groups run at each other and "PVP" not only got boring extremely fast (CTF oh I mean Capture the Relic thing was poorly designed with horrible maps) but it's also what the PVP system in WoW has become; Duels.  Duels with groups!  JAWESOME!

Considering that the Arena system wasn't implemented back then, I'll agree that GW was slightly different from WoW, otherwise I saw little difference.  Oh, it was prettier.  And really Asian.  And the default UI sucked.

SHOW ME WHAT I HAVE MISSED ALL THIS TIME

I don't know how to show you as you seem to have missed it all.  The pvp is miles beyond WoW.  At this point I'm ready to declare WSG the only worthwhile and real wow pvp to partake in.  Guild Wars has Guild vs Guild, which gets to be so intense that I actually quit it, then theres the tournament/tombs/heroes ascent(keeps changing name) that is a 6v6/8v8(keeps changing too =/) ladder tournament with different maps and victory scenarios, then theres random, team and challenge arena. There's Hero Battles that allow you to bring Heroes(self customized and controllable AI bots) and control tiny nodes for points and kills for points.  There's also alliance battle which is 12 v 12 node control battle with the nodes granting defense or attack boost, and the middle node granting the holder a dragon.

But outside of the variations of pvp, its just that the gameplay and battle system is so much better it makes any form of the pvp better. And there's balance, quick fixes and constant tweaking.  Everything has a counter and you can't 'one shot' anyone.

As for how it's different than WoW, well it's a just totally different idea from WoW.  You build your WoW character through a long leveling process and then through gear and stats, but in the end you play the character pretty much like everyone else does and you hope for big crits.  GW is a short leveling process, everyone can easily get the same armor and armor stats, but you really build your character through attributes, skill selection and how you play. Imagine WoW if pvp rewards were easy to get and there were far more talent trees and your talent selection meant everything. Now speed up WoW by about 1000%. One of the differences I always saw between the games is that in WoW a lot of characters look different from each other, but they play the same.  In Guild Wars all the characters look the same, every necro looks like the next necro, but they play so diferently.  There's four Necromancer attribute lines. You can play the blood attribute line in four different ways at least.  You can be a blood spiker, a degen siphoner, an 'Order' Necro that buffs everyone,  or a self sacrificing energy battery for your teammates. That is just one of the attribute lines for one class. You then also have the two class system which adds even more combinations. In comparison, the wow Warlock class which is similiar to a Necro has about 3 ways to play it and they all mostly use the same skills.

BUT SINCE THIS IS A THREAD ABOUT WOW

My healbitch Druid is coming around with some nicer gear now.  I got the Cloak of Healing Rays, and a blue 3 socket chestpiece. I can also still crit for 3k in feral gear in catform.  Tree form seems to benefit best by having more than one healer.  It really lacks in emergency heals, or save heals, with no bubble and no natures swiftness+healing touch boom heal.  It does a lot of tank healing with the HoTs and boosts your other healers healing as well. Right now my tree form spirit boost is about +75 to heals. I also conserve more mana. It just gets tricky when I have switch out to decurse, depoison or use a healing touch and then waste mana switching back into tree form.  There's no game balance reason for the form to be so restricted/gimped. I think it's just a dumb lore based gameplay idea, like no entangling roots inside(though mobs can do such).
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on March 13, 2007, 04:21:51 PM
Ok later tonight I definitely need to go to Thelgan Rock. I've been searching for good places to mine, and this area sounds VERY good. The WoW forum is pretty helpful lolz.

It's pretty easy to find tin, and this helps with my blacksmithing now that I can make bronze stuff. Much easier than copper because with copper it might take 10 bars to make one thing. With bronze you might need 6 or less bars. :bow
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Disposable White Guy on March 13, 2007, 05:23:22 PM
I guess there have been drastic changes to Guild Wars since I left it.  The whole Ender's Game thing where groups run at each other and "PVP" not only got boring extremely fast (CTF oh I mean Capture the Relic thing was poorly designed with horrible maps) but it's also what the PVP system in WoW has become; Duels.  Duels with groups!  JAWESOME!

Considering that the Arena system wasn't implemented back then, I'll agree that GW was slightly different from WoW, otherwise I saw little difference.  Oh, it was prettier.  And really Asian.  And the default UI sucked.

SHOW ME WHAT I HAVE MISSED ALL THIS TIME

I don't know how to show you as you seem to have missed it all.  The pvp is miles beyond WoW.  At this point I'm ready to declare WSG the only worthwhile and real wow pvp to partake in.  Guild Wars has Guild vs Guild, which gets to be so intense that I actually quit it, then theres the tournament/tombs/heroes ascent(keeps changing name) that is a 6v6/8v8(keeps changing too =/) ladder tournament with different maps and victory scenarios, then theres random, team and challenge arena. There's Hero Battles that allow you to bring Heroes(self customized and controllable AI bots) and control tiny nodes for points and kills for points.  There's also alliance battle which is 12 v 12 node control battle with the nodes granting defense or attack boost, and the middle node granting the holder a dragon.

But outside of the variations of pvp, its just that the gameplay and battle system is so much better it makes any form of the pvp better. And there's balance, quick fixes and constant tweaking.  Everything has a counter and you can't 'one shot' anyone.

As for how it's different than WoW, well it's a just totally different idea from WoW.  You build your WoW character through a long leveling process and then through gear and stats, but in the end you play the character pretty much like everyone else does and you hope for big crits.  GW is a short leveling process, everyone can easily get the same armor and armor stats, but you really build your character through attributes, skill selection and how you play. Imagine WoW if pvp rewards were easy to get and there were far more talent trees and your talent selection meant everything. Now speed up WoW by about 1000%. One of the differences I always saw between the games is that in WoW a lot of characters look different from each other, but they play the same.  In Guild Wars all the characters look the same, every necro looks like the next necro, but they play so diferently.  There's four Necromancer attribute lines. You can play the blood attribute line in four different ways at least.  You can be a blood spiker, a degen siphoner, an 'Order' Necro that buffs everyone,  or a self sacrificing energy battery for your teammates. That is just one of the attribute lines for one class. You then also have the two class system which adds even more combinations. In comparison, the wow Warlock class which is similiar to a Necro has about 3 ways to play it and they all mostly use the same skills.

I'll give you this, since I obviously lack the amount of Guild Wars experience that you have, but in all fairness, I still see no difference between either game, other than the time in which data is updated in GW over WoW.  Class customization seems more detailed, as opposed to class and character customization.  PVP is entirely objective-based, as opposed to objective PVP and 'survival' PVP in a more interactive world environment.  As for playstyle, come on.  Nobody forces a mage to spend his points in Fire, or a warrior in Arms, or a priest in Shadow, it's just what people are fed to go for based on the successes of others.  Additionally, with the inclusion of Resilience and gear that's way overboard on stamina, it's becoming increasingly more difficult to 'one shot' anything, which is forcing the entire playerbase to come up with new strategies, new gear choices, new talent specs, and new class desires in team environments.  There are problems with with the Resilience stat vs. critical chance (which GW definitely has over WoW with faster updates and bug fixes) and there are still various talents that are virtually useless in any PVP environment, which mostly stems from the more dungeon-crawling....y aspect of the game (which I suppose one could say GW wins over, as it doesn't even bother with such things outside of a leveling experience), but what I find interesting is that you don't point out how much of an incessant grind WoW becomes at higher levels.  Does GW not do this?  Is it the equivalent of an RPG Battlefield in which you just put a little time into it and then pick it up whenever you feel like messing around?  If so, then yeah I'll shut up about it forever and praise the game to anyone who asks.  If not, then they'll both be the same game with very minor differences between them.

Oh, you can find lots of tin in Redridge too, PD :P
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: etiolate on March 13, 2007, 05:43:51 PM
Quote
but what I find interesting is that you don't point out how much of an incessant grind WoW becomes at higher levels.  Does GW not do this?  Is it the equivalent of an RPG Battlefield in which you just put a little time into it and then pick it up whenever you feel like messing around?

I didn't mention the difference in grind for I thought it was obvious.  GW is pick up at anytime and play sort of pvp.  I can go into GW and make any character class combo I want and instantly pvp with all the things I need.  Doing that does take some faction grinding, but you can skip that by making a pve character and getting the skills through that.  It's more about unlocking skills than getting gear, and theres two ways to unlock skillls.  Get them through a pve character or buy them with faction pvp.  Either way unlocks the skills globally. YOu can also skip all of that if you want and just pay a fee to unlock all skills immediatly.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Disposable White Guy on March 13, 2007, 07:22:13 PM
I guess it is different enough to be better than WoW :-\
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: etiolate on March 13, 2007, 08:50:39 PM
And PD if you ever need anything you can always ask me. And if you want a more trushworthy enchanter next time, the guy Lucif in our guild should be able to help you.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on March 13, 2007, 09:24:33 PM
BADASS

I've finally found the ultamite mining run, which will guarentee I'll never have to waste money buying copper/tin ores at the AH. I found Thelgan Rock today, and just as the WoW guide said there were a bunch of veins in there. I got almost 30 pieces of tin in about 30min or less. Next I traveled to Redridge Mountains. It's a very good place to find copper, and after I was done searching the orc cave I had around 20-25 copper. But my most successful area was easily Loch Modan. Hot damn there's a lot of copper there. There's a bunch in the trogg caves, and also along the various mountains.

By the time I was finished mining I had around 60+ copper and 47 tin. I could have sold all of that on the AH, but I've been working on increasing my blacksmith rating. Today it rose from lv115 to lv134 :bow

But the real sucky thing is that no one is buying my stuff. I made a lot of these very nice bronze leggings (defense of around 149, +5 agility and +3 spirit) too. I have so much shit on the AH right now it's not funny. I played for at least 2hrs today, and in that span only 3 of my items sold: a moonstone, jade, and a copper belt.

I doubt this will be a problem once I get my blacksmithing skill up some more. Once I get to around 150 I should start making the big bucks on the AH.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: etiolate on March 14, 2007, 12:34:55 AM
It will be hard for you to sell the stuff with spirit. Pay attention to what sells fast and what doesn't and make those.  If nothign sells, just vendor it.  Selling the minerals will make you money, but then you aren't upping your blacksmithing.



Anyways, a 66 rogue ganking in Southshore and I bring you a moment of zen.

(http://www.mapored.com/etiolate/kraden.jpg)
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: BlackMage on March 14, 2007, 12:58:23 AM
you people need to stop playing gay ass alliance.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on March 14, 2007, 02:28:56 AM
Got my blacksmithing up to 150! So today I gained a total of 35 blacksmithing levels :bow

Most of my stuff isn't selling on AH, which is fine: I can get 10-15s from vendors. And now that I'm lv150 I can make blue letter armor like this:
http://thottbot.com/i2870

That should sell lol. I've been looking at that site, and apparently the pearls needed to make that armor cost a lot on the AH, but can be found on the murlocs in Wetlands. Or in Gnomer apparently.

Tomorrow I need to head to Booty Bay to get the higher blacksmithing ability and then start looking for the pearls.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: etiolate on March 14, 2007, 05:12:07 AM
you people need to stop playing gay ass alliance.

How else am I going to kill belfs?
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Prost on March 14, 2007, 11:21:27 AM
you people need to stop playing gay ass alliance.
honestly... whoever has the patience to do the barrens deserves the use as much war stomp as he wants.  I could level 7 alliance guys to 60, but after just my 2nd horde char i was just too bored.  tauren bluff owns though, even if it's for 5 levels
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: etiolate on March 14, 2007, 11:17:21 PM
Nagrand is like the Barrens + STV.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on March 15, 2007, 11:36:08 AM
How much does a mount usually cost? Like, what's the cheapest?

I'm lv37 and I've been doing a lot of running around for minerals. Late last night I wound up getting more than 60+ copper and 45+ tin, but I haven't turned it into anything yet. I've been thinking...it's pretty clear most of my blacksmith stuff doesn't sell on AH, but there's always a market for selling minerals. I can get around 50s-80s off bronze, and even more for silver. Should I just stop blacksmithing for a bit, and instead work on making money to get my mount? Right now I have more than 7g, and once my stuff on AH expires and I vendor it I'll have around 8g.

I'm at lv160 with my blacksmithing. Right now I really want to make this:
http://thottbot.com/i2870

The sucky thing is that it's hard as hell to find those pearls. I plan on going to Gnomer to search for some; I'd hate to buy them on AH because they cost so much. I have all the other mats
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: cubicle47b on March 15, 2007, 11:52:37 AM
The 75 riding skill (level 40) costs 90g and the mounts themselves cost 10g.  I have no idea why you're so poor.

edit: I'm never going to play my alliance paladin again so I might log on and send what I have.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on March 15, 2007, 11:55:23 AM
FUCK :lol
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on March 15, 2007, 04:21:01 PM
What's the easiest way to get to the Swamp of Sorrows? Meier on GAF said it's a good place to look for pearls. Are the mobs too strong for me (lv37)?
http://thottbot.com/?z=62
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: etiolate on March 16, 2007, 10:26:49 PM
I can't decide between two quest items from The Ring of Blood chain.  I am a resto druid, but the feral staff is so goooood.

http://www.thottbot.com/i25759
Healiing Mace

vs

http://www.thottbot.com/i25761
Staff Of Beasts

The mace is better than what i have now
http://www.thottbot.com/i25836

But the staff is a LOT better than the feral staff I have now, which makes the choice hard.  The staff would make my soloing and the occasional tanking much better, but I am resto and the Mace is maybe the best healing item till 70.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: etiolate on March 16, 2007, 10:29:11 PM
Phoenix, I can send you those pearls and some gold for mount. You need to up your gold though.  You won't even be abel tobuy all your skills in awhile.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: cubicle47b on March 17, 2007, 02:42:04 AM
Get the staff to level with.  There are plenty of good healing staves and maces to choose from in level 70 instances.  I think the mace from Shattered Halls (227 healing, 12 sta, 11 int, 8mp5) dropped 3x in a row when we were grinding for rep with Thrallmar a few days ago.

I ran Heroic Mechanar and Ramparts tonight.  Hopefully Kara tomorrow but it depends on people logging in.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: etiolate on March 17, 2007, 07:23:47 AM
@(&#^#

So that quest is bugged if you don't turn in the quest right away, it will say failed when you log back in and you have to repeat it.  It's not an easy quest. At all. Fuckin Blizzard.  Also Bogorrok bugged in Furnace and the trampoline quest bugged in Nagrand.  All in one day. 

See I was thinking that there would be better maces, but I couldn't find any better ones until level 70. I know theres a better feral staff in heroic colfang, but I don't know how long that will take to get to and do. Is the +60 more healing worth forgoing one of the better feral staves to get? I need to decide by tomorrow when we do it again.


Tonight I did Halaa, or the pvp stuff with Halaa, sort of spontaneously. Was grinding Kurenai rep with a 69 Shaman when some horde killed off the last alliance guards and we decided to jump the party. It turned out to be a 70 Shaman and 70 Warrior who were bombing.  Anyways, we capped the wyvern stands, they landed, we kicked their ass.  First time they ignored me and went after the Shaman. I was basically tree form all fight. Heal heal heal, Shammy took them down.  Second time the two Shamans battled and the Warrior went after me.  Could not kill me.  HoT and Kite and he barely scratched me. The routine was basically me kiting so slowly in Tree and hoting the two of us until the shaman gunned down both. Then they brought a third and that was too much for us.  So we came back with more later, kicked their ass again.  We were farming them until they finally got about 8-9 to take us out. They'd send a ton after me and I'd just tree tank and the rest would just kill them.  My tree of life + wraith of air = so much bonus healzomg.

Oh and I hit 66 and the sound effect for Lacerate is lame. It doesn't sound like your ripping anything, it sounds like your pushing the air out of a pillowcase.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: whiteACID on March 19, 2007, 08:56:42 PM
I think you guys will enjoy this:

http://www.landoverbaptist.org/news1006/christianguildcharter.html
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Disposable White Guy on March 19, 2007, 09:04:26 PM
http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=81958808&sid=1

From the PVP server I've been messing around on lately.  The guy's pretty entertaining when he trolls general chat.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on March 19, 2007, 09:16:39 PM
Get the staff to level with.  There are plenty of good healing staves and maces to choose from in level 70 instances.  I think the mace from Shattered Halls (227 healing, 12 sta, 11 int, 8mp5) dropped 3x in a row when we were grinding for rep with Thrallmar a few days ago.

I ran Heroic Mechanar and Ramparts tonight.  Hopefully Kara tomorrow but it depends on people logging in.

Thanks for the money dude!

I haven't spend much of it, except for 1 gold on this total steal: these bracers with 201 armor
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: etiolate on March 21, 2007, 11:16:06 PM
Well anyways I took the Mace and I kind of regret it, because heal weapons drop way more than feral staves.  I just got this from Auch: http://www.thottbot.com/i27412 which is nice, but a toss up between it and the mace + offhand.  Staff is less +healing, but so much more in other stats. I have too much useful gear that eats up my inv.  Having to always carry two sets sucks as well.  I get a nice off-hand from a shitty escort quest in bone wastes which might make me switch back to the mace.  I kind of like having a staff though, instead of running around with a big nasty pally mace in one hand and a flower or whatever in my off-hand.

I still can't find shoulders worth a damn for resto.  Still using my Living Shoulders at level 67. I finally replaced my lvl 45 Wildfeather Leggings, but the sockets for them only make them slightly better for healing.  They're really oomkin leggings. I might just get the pvp shoulders, but doing high level arathi kind of sucks. Halaa has leggings that I could use, but alliance never wants to take halaa.

All i've learned is Blizzard doesn't really bother to design feral gear and if feral worthy gear is available, take it no matter what.  Otherwise you have to go with rogue gear and fight angry rogues for it.

Oh and the guild that ganked me and stole our rare boss spawn kill, and subsequently my idol of the moon, the guild that got pissed that I said they stole it and I told themt hat I would never help them, and they said they don't need help because they're so awesome.... just tried recruiting me because they need a raid healer. So I told them to fuck off in polite terms. Not only did they screw the pooch earlier, but fuck if I want to do long giant raids.  All I hear about raiding is horror stories.  I personally like how short the Outland dungeons are.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on March 25, 2007, 02:12:00 AM
Did SM tonight. Wow we got through pretty easily and took out a couple bosses. I'll have the recap later. But right now it's bragging time:

(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e86/PhoenixDark1/shield.jpg)
 :bow
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: etiolate on March 27, 2007, 08:26:38 AM
Yeah your warrior is starting to get geared out.  SM is good for that.  I have the Scarlet Belt if you want it. You know if you want a good one hander, you should just do the hurrivane quest for warriors.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: etiolate on March 27, 2007, 08:41:57 AM
Some screenies:

First, flightform:
(http://www.mapored.com/etiolate/stormcrow.jpg)

Second, why it's easier to raid Southshore than it is to raid Tarren Mill:
(http://www.mapored.com/etiolate/tmguards.jpg)
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: cubicle47b on March 27, 2007, 10:17:03 AM
I can't believe you rolled on the healing mace off Whitemane in SM, PD.  You really need to learn itemization.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on March 27, 2007, 12:06:09 PM
I can't believe you rolled on the healing mace off Whitemane in SM, PD.  You really need to learn itemization.
:(

It looked so strong to me lol.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: etiolate on March 27, 2007, 07:45:34 PM
Yeah this is the unofficial WoW thread.  Me and Phoenix are on Ravenholdt, cubicle is on another server, as is redwood and MAF.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on March 28, 2007, 01:55:31 AM
Our server is pretty slow, economy wise. But I guess this can be a benefit because it's always easy to find the mats you need, whether it's ores or something else - without having other people take them.


Once again I journeyed into SM today/tonight, and it was good. I've found a lv45 hunter who really loves doing the instance for her quests, so we've gone together two days in a row; we plan on going again tomorrow. The first time we went through the Cathedral with a really great priest and a mage. I will say that the only thing that irks me about this hunter is that she doesn't listen, AT ALL. For instance when we got to the final boss the priest and I started telling everyone what to expect. But before we could finish she charged the boss. This of course triggered the elite monks from the left and right of the room, and we all died. We were able to beat him on the next try though, so I didn't say anything.

After that we decided to do the armory, which is pretty tough due to the sheer amount of mobs you have to go through; you can skip many mobs in the Cathedrel. Our badass priest left so we had to find new members. We replaced that lv42 awesome priest with a lv35 priestess, as well as her lv35 warrior boyfriend (ugghghgh).

She was very good at healing, but I was amazed at how dumb she played at times. For instance she's stand in the middle of a battle and heal us instead of standing way back. The lv35 must have had some nice armor because he could withstand lots of damage from the elites; of course in part because I was keeping lots of the threat.

So we finally get to the boss, and the freaking hunter shoots at him before anyone is ready. Once again we get mobbed by a bunch of minions, and everyone dies. THAT annoyed me. But since we were so close I figured what the hell, who cares. But then when we got back into the instance...everything had repopped. DAMN. We once again fought through everything and got to the boss, where I said fuck it I'm in charge now.

I had the lv35s stay in the hallway while I entered the circular boss chamber and got his attention. I then led him out into the hallway, where we began taking him on; he's probably the easiest SM boss for me to keep the threat on. When he did he Blade of Light whirlwind move I made sure to tell everyone GET THE FUCK BACK. We beat him pretty easily, and then killed the mobs that come out of nowhere after he dies.



Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: etiolate on March 28, 2007, 02:49:35 AM
Once you find a good group of players, keep up with them. I get good groups because 1. I can heal, 2. I've kept up with the same list of players for 30 levels.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: BlackMage on March 28, 2007, 02:52:38 AM
Once you find a good group of players, keep up with them. I get good groups because 1. I can heal, 2. I've kept up with the same list of players for 30 levels.

you aren't half the druid i am!!!!
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on March 28, 2007, 03:48:18 AM
Once you find a good group of players, keep up with them. I get good groups because 1. I can heal, 2. I've kept up with the same list of players for 30 levels.

That's what I wanted to do. I remember doing the Deadmines with a couple people and had a great time, even put them in my friends list. Now they don't come on, or they're so high (or low) a level that I can't really group with them.

This hunter is pretty cool though. She's 6 levels ahead of me, but it'll be 5 by tomorrow; I'm almost lv40.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: cubicle47b on March 28, 2007, 09:52:45 AM
Yeah, I'm on Khaz Modan where I rerolled after the expansion.  About 3 weeks ago my small group (of 5) splintered off from the guild we were in to start our own as the GM was a douche and we wanted to raid under our own rules.  5 full days and we killed Shade of Aran which I'm pretty happy about (and we're 2nd in horde-side progression on our server which is pretty laughable).

(http://i9.tinypic.com/4486bfn.jpg)

I'm the blood elf.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: whiteACID on March 28, 2007, 10:18:07 AM
Is your character already 70?

Mine is still stuck at 52, I haven't had the time to play much.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: cubicle47b on March 28, 2007, 12:15:33 PM
Yeah.  Before the expansion came out I put together a small cache of good weapons including a Fiery War Axe.  And when I hit 40 one of my roommates started playing again (the druid in the picture).  A feral druid / retribution paladin combo is really great for leveling.  We're both melee with frontloaded damage who can heal, tank, and have great buffs.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on March 29, 2007, 03:49:40 AM
Scarlet Monastery is my favorite dungeon since the Deadmines; I've done it 3-5 times this week and each time has been successful. Everytime I go in something good happens. I either get a really good item or I gain a level like today when I finally hit 40.

Now that I'm lv40 I can get a mount, but it's not that simple. I have 86g but I don't have a high enough reputation to even buy a mount. I'm honored in Ironforge and almost exhalted. Tomorrow I plan on heading to some of the early areas to horde linen cloth, and I need to get silk cloth from SM. I'll trade it in for the commendation points and then exchange that for rep.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: BlackMage on March 29, 2007, 04:27:25 AM
PD.. umm.. being honored is enough to get your mount. you just need 90g total. Reputation means nothing with getting your regular mount (except for the 10% cost reduction for being honored).
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on March 30, 2007, 12:12:33 AM
PD.. umm.. being honored is enough to get your mount. you just need 90g total. Reputation means nothing with getting your regular mount (except for the 10% cost reduction for being honored).

Found that out today. I just found the dwarve trainer and got the skill. After that I had like 6g so I started grinding on ogres. I'm about to get on again; last time I have 8g, and I'm sure the stuff I put on AH has sold by now
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on March 30, 2007, 12:18:19 PM
(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e86/PhoenixDark1/horizon.jpg)
Bring me that horizon!
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: dsn2k on April 01, 2007, 09:42:37 PM
Im about to pay for my mount with Bronze bar's on Auction :D, stack of 20 could go for at most 8-10g :lol I didnt even need to mine much either...I simply got copper,tin ore or bars on auction for cheap then made the bronze myself, ive got about 150 gold at lvl 34, Im thinking I might buy a set of plate armor for when I hit 40.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on April 01, 2007, 09:44:48 PM
Im about to pay for my mount with Bronze bar's on Auction :D, stack of 20 could go for at most 8-10g :lol I didnt even need to mine much either...I simply got copper,tin ore or bars on auction for cheap then made the bronze myself, ive got about 150 gold at lvl 34, Im thinking I might buy a set of plate armor for when I hit 40.

Holy shit wtf? Wow the economy on my server sucks; I get like 60-90s for that.

Do you ever have trouble finding ore veins since they're so many people on your server? I would imagine lots of people would wind up mining before you get there
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: dsn2k on April 01, 2007, 09:53:41 PM
Im about to pay for my mount with Bronze bar's on Auction :D, stack of 20 could go for at most 8-10g :lol I didnt even need to mine much either...I simply got copper,tin ore or bars on auction for cheap then made the bronze myself, ive got about 150 gold at lvl 34, Im thinking I might buy a set of plate armor for when I hit 40.

Holy shit wtf? Wow the economy on my server sucks; I get like 60-90s for that.

Do you ever have trouble finding ore veins since they're so many people on your server? I would imagine lots of people would wind up mining before you get there

early morning Mining runs... :lol you would be surprised how empty certains areas can get, dont even need long if you know where the ore is specifically.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on April 01, 2007, 11:50:28 PM
omg lol

My prepaid card ran out today. Hell I almost wanted to run out to get another card but it was too late. Damn :(
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: cubicle47b on April 02, 2007, 10:23:34 AM
You don't lose anything when your subscription runs out, just access until you pay again.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on April 02, 2007, 06:02:17 PM
You don't lose anything when your subscription runs out, just access until you pay again.

I know that lol; this will be the second time I've bought the card. I was going to buy it today but then I figured meh, I'm going to watch the game later tonight and I have tests to study for. :-\
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: etiolate on April 03, 2007, 08:33:34 AM
I just made a riding crop (omg primal might you cost me so) and discovered it doesn't improve druid flight form speed at all.  So basically I'll only be using my riding crop outside of Outlands. Luhame.

I keep considering respeccing, but I don't know how.  Tree of Life is just really gimped and over-specialized. The lack of utility and healing touch hurts once you start hitting the 70s dungeons.  The hots are great covers, but it can not handle the huge damage increase that suddenly jumps in at the 70 point.  I tried The Mechanar, and it pretty much seemed like if I wasn't a priest with prayer of mending, then my party wasn't surviving. One of my problem's with WoW is how formulaic it becomes that it starts to boil down to the stoic priest, warrior, mage and rogue required setup. 

The thing is, I got nothing I want to respec to. I don't want to go balance, and I don't want to go feral as I have setup all my gear around resto and would have to go back and grab all the feralish gear I missed.  Plus, theres already feral and balance druids.  Being the one and only resto druid is my niche, but it is a niche for a reason.. it fucking sucks at the end. The only other option is the hybrid healer, but it seems so stupid that a character with more balance points would be a better healer than a character with more resto points.  The third option is going entirely resto which is like giving up on ever doing anything solo because you can't do shit but heal that way.The whole problem is the heals aren't big enough unless you use the ultra slow healing touch and secondly, you're the squishiest thing around without mana shield or inner fire to buff you up.  There's like an 80 armor point difference between leather caster and cloth caster at level 70, but a 200 armor difference between leather caster and mail caster.  If I get any aggro, I just die. If I switch to bear, then I can't heal. If I keep switching in and out of forms because Tree is so gimped and caster form is so sqishy then I am wasting a ton of mana.

So it's basically talent tree and armor that makes Druid healing a pain.  I have no flash heal or lesser healign wave, no bubble, no fade or aggro protection.  For all the bitching about feral, the resto tree was weak to begin with and now it has feral to join it's ranks.  Most druids I see are Balance now, which is like a battlemage who will be skipped over for a mage or shaman anyday for the mage's aoe + crowd control and the shamans totems.  Though moonkin is fine for pvp as you have all that damn armor and can single target nuke things down.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on April 03, 2007, 07:31:46 PM
Couldn't wait: I got the card earlier today, and I'll probably be playing all night lol
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: dsn2k on April 03, 2007, 09:18:00 PM
Im fed up of being ganked by lvl 70 hord in Stranglethorn Vale >:(, cant get any quests done without having to watch my back 24/7.

Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on April 03, 2007, 09:49:09 PM
I went there once and just gave up. Have to do a warrior quest there but I doubt I can do it without being ganked again and again
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: BlackMage on April 04, 2007, 03:46:57 AM
I just made a riding crop (omg primal might you cost me so) and discovered it doesn't improve druid flight form speed at all.  So basically I'll only be using my riding crop outside of Outlands. Luhame.

I keep considering respeccing, but I don't know how.  Tree of Life is just really gimped and over-specialized. The lack of utility and healing touch hurts once you start hitting the 70s dungeons.  The hots are great covers, but it can not handle the huge damage increase that suddenly jumps in at the 70 point.  I tried The Mechanar, and it pretty much seemed like if I wasn't a priest with prayer of mending, then my party wasn't surviving. One of my problem's with WoW is how formulaic it becomes that it starts to boil down to the stoic priest, warrior, mage and rogue required setup. 

The thing is, I got nothing I want to respec to. I don't want to go balance, and I don't want to go feral as I have setup all my gear around resto and would have to go back and grab all the feralish gear I missed.  Plus, theres already feral and balance druids.  Being the one and only resto druid is my niche, but it is a niche for a reason.. it fucking sucks at the end. The only other option is the hybrid healer, but it seems so stupid that a character with more balance points would be a better healer than a character with more resto points.  The third option is going entirely resto which is like giving up on ever doing anything solo because you can't do shit but heal that way.The whole problem is the heals aren't big enough unless you use the ultra slow healing touch and secondly, you're the squishiest thing around without mana shield or inner fire to buff you up.  There's like an 80 armor point difference between leather caster and cloth caster at level 70, but a 200 armor difference between leather caster and mail caster.  If I get any aggro, I just die. If I switch to bear, then I can't heal. If I keep switching in and out of forms because Tree is so gimped and caster form is so sqishy then I am wasting a ton of mana.

So it's basically talent tree and armor that makes Druid healing a pain.  I have no flash heal or lesser healign wave, no bubble, no fade or aggro protection.  For all the bitching about feral, the resto tree was weak to begin with and now it has feral to join it's ranks.  Most druids I see are Balance now, which is like a battlemage who will be skipped over for a mage or shaman anyday for the mage's aoe + crowd control and the shamans totems.  Though moonkin is fine for pvp as you have all that damn armor and can single target nuke things down.

you can always do the 33/0/28 Dreamstate Build. It's a mana efficient healing build, or so I hear. Don't put yourself in a situation where you have to have some sort of niche. Play for yourself, or its becomes a job more than a game.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on April 04, 2007, 09:54:36 AM
Right now I have most of my points in arms, although recently I've been putting some in protection. Basically there are a couple important things in protec that I've been building up: the one proficiency that allows me to keep more rage after changing stances, and another that increases my defense rating.

I've been changing stances whiling tanking much more recently. Last night while tanking SM I would basically start in Basic by charing an enemy, then I use Demoralizing Shout. After that I switch to Defense stance and start using Taunt to keep attention, all while sundering as much armor as possible. And when I can't take all the arrgo I'll disarm the enemies that are fighting my group members. Also I use Revenge whenever I can; supposedly using Shield Bash is a good way to set up Revenge, but it doesn't work that way lol. I just use the bash on magic users to take them out of the picture for 6 seconds.

Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: BlackMage on April 04, 2007, 01:27:10 PM
Right now I have most of my points in arms, although recently I've been putting some in protection. Basically there are a couple important things in protec that I've been building up: the one proficiency that allows me to keep more rage after changing stances, and another that increases my defense rating.

I've been changing stances whiling tanking much more recently. Last night while tanking SM I would basically start in Basic by charing an enemy, then I use Demoralizing Shout. After that I switch to Defense stance and start using Taunt to keep attention, all while sundering as much armor as possible. And when I can't take all the arrgo I'll disarm the enemies that are fighting my group members. Also I use Revenge whenever I can; supposedly using Shield Bash is a good way to set up Revenge, but it doesn't work that way lol. I just use the bash on magic users to take them out of the picture for 6 seconds.



shield BLOCK sets up revenge. not shield bash
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: cubicle47b on April 04, 2007, 01:37:28 PM
Only use taunt when you need to pull a mob off of someone else.  You're just wasting it if you're using it on mobs that are hitting you.  It's a snap aggro ability, it doesn't actually generate threat.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on April 05, 2007, 12:44:55 AM
That's what I try to do.

I've been doing SM nearly every day that I get to play WoW, but I never get to pull. So I just try to run in after the pull and establish as much arrgo as possible. It's pretty easy for me to keep arrgo against 1-3 enemies, and I've been able to keep the attention of all the bosses rather easily. But then again most of my groups have featured at least 1 member who's lv45+ which makes things easier. I'd love to do SM with just poeple lv38-41 or so
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: etiolate on April 06, 2007, 02:47:18 AM
I'm really tired of dealing with beggers.  Every non-flist whisper ends in "can you give me gold?" or "can you run me through ___?"  I especially dislike that our guild is suddenly full of low levels who constantly bug me.  I like helping people, but this goes beyond lending a hand.  It's lke I'm adopting invalids. This is PD's first WoW charactter and he's far more self-suffecient and capable than a lot of these idiots.  I don't even know who invited them to our guild or where they come from.  My favorites are the one who start off asking "How did you get to 70?" and I say "By soloing and doing things myself" and their response is "kk will you run me thru gnomer i need dagger". 

I swear, I've had people spend a gold I lend them in a day at level 8.  What are they even buying?
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: cubicle47b on April 06, 2007, 12:50:06 PM
I think etiolate needs a little time off and probably a new guild.

I'm kind of waiting for my guild to explode right now.  The GM and MT really don't like each other and I'm tired of dealing with both of them.  Tension is building because we suck at Shade of Aran and have been stuck there for 2 weeks now (we did kill him once but late on a Monday night).  I'll see what happens then pick up the pieces or take some time off.  I'm also tired of seemingly handling way too much of our healing responsibilities.  On our Kara run last night I did something like 50% more healing than our regular priest and he was ahead of the resto druid by a bit.  I went through 3 mana pots and 2 Night Dragon's breaths on the Curator and was OOM and using flash of light for the last 8%.  It's a tad stressful.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: etiolate on April 06, 2007, 07:07:08 PM
My healing stats are always fuxxed over because direct heals overwrite my hots and I don't get credit for the back kick of lifebloom, which is the majority of that spell's heal.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on April 06, 2007, 11:38:59 PM
I'm really tired of dealing with beggers.  Every non-flist whisper ends in "can you give me gold?" or "can you run me through ___?"  I especially dislike that our guild is suddenly full of low levels who constantly bug me.  I like helping people, but this goes beyond lending a hand.  It's lke I'm adopting invalids. This is PD's first WoW charactter and he's far more self-suffecient and capable than a lot of these idiots.  I don't even know who invited them to our guild or where they come from.  My favorites are the one who start off asking "How did you get to 70?" and I say "By soloing and doing things myself" and their response is "kk will you run me thru gnomer i need dagger". 

I swear, I've had people spend a gold I lend them in a day at level 8.  What are they even buying?
:lol

I've realized I'm far too nice in real life, and it crosses over in the game. I've given money to very low level characters, most of whom seem to hang around the bank in Stormwind. At least once a week someone will whisper "hey can I have 10s plz". Ugh. Yesterday I also wound up running a guildie through the Deadmines. Well, I tried...

Basically he begged me to help and I figured I should since I haven't done much with the other guild members. Once we got in he asked if he could have all the loot. I said yes because I didn't really need the money and DM drops stuff that can't help me anyway. Then he asked for some money. I gave him 1g lol, and he didn't even say thank you; I had to say "um aren't you going to say thanks..." before it crossed his mind. Less than halfway through he says "hey I'm gonna have a lv68 (Caro) run me through..." I just laughed and said alright. As I'm running out he runs past me yelling help because the mobs were after him. I saved his ass and then left. Ungrateful snotball.

I'm not giving out money again. But what really confuses me is the idea of high levels running low levels through instances. When I was lv18 I got in a fucking group and did Deadmines over and over again; it's no doubt written about 7 pages back in this very thread. I was able to raise around 70g for my mount, with Cubicle giving me the other 20g. What's the point of playing if you're just going to have other people inflate your success lol?
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on April 08, 2007, 01:19:17 PM
Figured I'd take a new pic

(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e86/PhoenixDark1/stats.jpg)

Is that good? :D
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on April 08, 2007, 11:35:33 PM
STFU

Were you a warrior? :-\
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on April 10, 2007, 02:10:38 PM
I did RFD last night. While it's not nearly as tedious and annoying as Gnomer I still found it a bit..boring. Most of the enemies were lv35 elites, which I could no doubt solo one on one. But as you get deeper into the dungeon things start getting harder. For instance, you have to worry about these summoner things that revive dead mobs.

The group was pretty good, but we had three low lv players. They were pretty good though, but constantly drew arrgo which lead to the healer dying a couple times. We had a lv45 player (from my guild; I've gone through about 3 instances with him) who pulled, and then I'd run in and get attention. He died a few times actually though. I would have preferred to charge in a get the arrgo first.

I doubt I'll do this instance again. There wasn't any good loot for my class, and I also didn't find much stuff I could AH. I plan on just continuing to do SM, which I really like (except for the graveyard)
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on April 10, 2007, 04:15:30 PM
My armor is high. STFU!!!!!

Guild Wars was boring to me in the demo. It's so...bland
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on April 10, 2007, 06:44:26 PM
My armor is higher now STFU OMG. It's past 4300 now
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: BlackMage on April 11, 2007, 12:56:06 AM
Didn't I tell you I quit WoW?

I could give a fuck about your armor rating, bro. >:(

People who quit WoW act like born again Christians. So fucking preachy and condescending.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on April 11, 2007, 08:19:50 PM
I did Uldaman for the first time last night, but we didn't finish; earler today I was able to finish it. Once again I was able to join a good group, and bring along a really good Gnome mage from my guild, who I do a lot of instances with.

While SM is still my favorite instance, Uldaman is getting up their as a favorite. The one bad thing I guess is that it's HUGE. There are so many bosses and mini bosses, the various paths to take. The entire feel really gave me a Greek/Clash of the Titans vibe, which is a good thing.

There are many high level mobs in there. I was the lowest level in the group at lv42 but it wasn't much of a problem since I'm a tank and can take lots of damage. We had two mages so they'd just polly a couple mobs, leaving us with 1-2 to deal with at a time instead of 4.

I got lots of good stuff, and put it all on AH lol. Damn I've got well over 12g worth of stuff on AH, in part thanks for the Uldaman drops. Got some mithril ore (4g) and even some silver bars (4g as well). Plus like I always say, silk cloth is a big seller
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: etiolate on April 12, 2007, 02:14:34 AM
Bask in the glory of my glowing man bewbs

(http://www.mapored.com/etiolate/glowingmanbewbs.jpg)
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: etiolate on April 12, 2007, 08:31:17 AM
MAYBE THE GREATEST WOW SCREENSHOT EVER

(http://www.mapored.com/etiolate/madeofwin.jpg)

ps: people don't tip level 70 naked dancers =/
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: etiolate on April 12, 2007, 09:50:12 AM
Okay my dance troupe grew larger.

(http://www.mapored.com/etiolate/madeofawesome.jpg)

btw, the dranei is level 70 as well and I got him to go naked

The best thing about this was that I was sick of beggars, so I decided to do the stuff myself and what shows up in the middle of my dancing but a level 1 female warrior named Realgurl!  She starts begging for gold because "she's a real girl" and I proceed to play with her and tell her she's got to work for it ilke I do.  At one point I actually had her standing at the opposite corner dancing for tips and me at my corner dancing with a crowd of people around me and her all alone.  Then she came back to where I was to beg and I told her to get off my corner. They actually ragequit because I was drawing all the attention away from her spamming for gold.  It was awesome.  And I got tipped! With gems!
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Stocky on April 12, 2007, 08:12:05 PM
PD, just for you <3

WHORESOFWARCRAFT.COM
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on April 13, 2007, 03:10:28 PM
Went to Desolace last night. I was told that there's a lot of good xp and loot there but I didn't find any; I got to lv43 but I was pretty close anyway. At first I saw a lot of lv32-35 mobs, but eventually I found some lv39s. They gave out like 300+ xp but you can get that in Alterac fighting ogres.

I actually wound up fighting my way all the way to an instance (Mauradan). I was fighting some centaurs than I noticed there was a meeting stone ahead of me lol. I went in and found some lv42 mobs and took some on; very nice. Then I forgot where I was going and arrgo'd a lv42 elite; I had like two thirds of my health so I got killed.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: dsn2k on April 13, 2007, 08:13:30 PM
Blizzard have ruined DW Fury warriors  >:( >:(

Ive had enough with the nerfing of warriors, may just go back to my Warlock whats bound to get taken apart as well at some point.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: etiolate on April 14, 2007, 01:44:24 AM
You got nerfed because warriors cried their brains out over druids, but now I'm getting crit for 2300+ on Mortal Strikes and Warriors are pretty much pvp death machines.  I don't know about Fury, but Arms is nasty now.  If warriors would have just waited to get their 'epix' or 70 weapons then they wouldn't have cared that Druids temporarily had dps, because they pretty much murder everything at this point.  Mortal Strike is crazier than bear Maim ever was, and I can't even keep warriors cc'd anymore.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on April 14, 2007, 03:35:22 AM
One day I will be awesome then :hyper
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: etiolate on April 14, 2007, 05:10:37 AM
Aren't you prot?
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on April 14, 2007, 05:21:34 AM
No, arms. I wound up putting a lot of points in there before I did my first instance, and kept with it. Recently I've been putting some points in prot too. Mainly in stance mastery so I can change stances without losing all my rage.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: etiolate on April 15, 2007, 01:18:00 AM
How lazy my guild members are

Whisper from random guildie I've never heard of: I'm leaving the guild. Okay?
Me: Why?
him: I need a guild with more people at my level who can help.
Me: Okay, I understand. We have some people your level but not an entire group's worth.
Him: I need a Scarlet Monastery group.Can you run?
Me: Uh ask Goinio and the 37 hunter in the guild.
Him: *silence*
Him: Can you remove me from guild?
Me: You can't be arsed to even leave the guild yourself?
Him: Remove me please

btw, he's still in guild, because I haven't kicked him yet

TOO LAZY TO EVEN LEAVE THE GUILD BY THEMSELVES

wtf
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on April 15, 2007, 02:21:32 AM
 :lol

Barely any of people around my level ever want to do anything. There are a couple guys that I do a lot of stuff with, but other than that meh. In fact, there's this guy who contacts me every week asking me to run him through the Deadmines. Now I don't understand why people can't just get in a group and do that kind of stuff, but according to this guy he's a "cool young dude" and needs higher levels to run him through. Um, whatever that means. I know it's a low level with like powerful gear (or something like that), but come on.

I love SM and I don't mind doing it when I'm not doing something else. Of course I'm not too keen on running lv35 people through there but outside of that I'm good with it.


Anyway...I almost have 60g. I'm making more money now than I ever have it seems. Selling silk cloth is very helpful, and you can get it in all the instances. Also I find that mining in Alterac nets me lots of iron and some mithril, both of which sell very well on AH. Recently I haven't done much blacksmithing, instead opting to just sell the minerals. To tell the truth I don't know what I'm going to do with the money. My armor is pretty good right now, and there aren't any good 1H axes on AH for my level.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: cubicle47b on April 15, 2007, 02:46:56 PM
Arms warriors are insane so they nerf Fury.  Blizzard works in mysterious ways.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on April 15, 2007, 09:14:04 PM
I did battleground for like the 3rd time ever today. On my first try:

(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e86/PhoenixDark1/battleground.jpg)
 :hyper

I still suck though, in part due to the lag. But overall today I had like 85 kills and 290 honor
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on May 29, 2007, 03:38:49 AM
THREAD REVIVE

So now that I have more time I'm back to WoW. Me and Etiole switched guilds to one which was an offshoot of our previous one. It's cool because I know many people already.

Anyway tonight I did Maraudan for the first time. Wow, that place kicked my ass. I'm lv44, but luckily the group consisted of pretty high levels including a lv66 and 54. I died around 4 times.

But most importantly I found this:
http://thottbot.com/i2100

So after we finished the instance I decided to put in on the AH for 10g. Once I advertised it on the trade channel someone told me he'd buy it for 12g. At that point I started wondering if I could get more, so I asked the guild. They said the gun was listed at up to 150g, but since our server has a weak economy I couldn't sell it for that much. They suggested 70g, so I put it back on the AH for that amount. Less than 5 minutes later it sold. HOLY SHIT I could have fucking made the biggest dumbass decision of the month:lol

So now I have 166g
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: etiolate on May 29, 2007, 07:30:11 AM
Yeah that gun is a hot seller, the agility bonus makes it worth it to hunters and rogues. I'm surprised you survived Mara at all at 44.  I normally hit Mara at around 50.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on May 29, 2007, 12:08:05 PM
Early on I was getting owned. We ran into these green blob things that were doing like 170 damage a hit to nearly everyone; they'd gang up on you, so you could easily lose 300-400 health in no time. Overall I think I died 4 times.

My armor is the best I can find for my level, plus I've used armor kits on everything. Now I just need to find a better 1H weapon, which is a shame. I've had the same one for many levels lol. Since I don't see any good ones on AH I'm looking in instances now
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on May 30, 2007, 02:27:05 AM
Did ZF for the first time tonight, and got this:
http://thottbot.com/i9478

OMG YES. I've been looking for a 1H axe for tanking and this is just perfect.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on June 09, 2007, 01:39:45 PM
(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e86/PhoenixDark1/homophobe.jpg)

wtf :'( :maf

The guild masters eventually got the situation under control, but it was pretty nasty for a couple minutes
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: etiolate on June 10, 2007, 02:19:38 AM
I wasted like an hour waiting for a Gruul run just to see it fall apart because the people we were waiting for bailed.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on June 10, 2007, 03:23:52 AM
Usually I'm able to get people together for instances, although tonight no one my level was on (and I was too tired to do an instance actually). Yesterday I went through Uldaman fully with guildies, then immediately afterward joined another group of guildies who needed help on that last boss. Both times I didn't get anything good :-\
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: etiolate on June 10, 2007, 06:58:32 AM
Well I could always get people for instances before, I was just at the right level bracket. Like I said I've played with some of these people for 20-30 levels.  But Gruul is a 25 man raid, and we had like 23 and just needed these two others to finish karazhan, but they never did.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Van Cruncheon on June 10, 2007, 03:47:21 PM
i am now playing lotro, and it is like wow but possibly even more solo-friendly. i miss the deep skill systems of wow, but omg hobbitses
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on June 10, 2007, 06:23:25 PM
I wish I could get into lotro but the art style really turns me off. It looks so bland...and uninspired.  :'(

After listening to the music I must say it's not bad at all. If the art style looked better I could see myself giving it a chance, despite the lack of Shore's orgasmic musica
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Van Cruncheon on June 10, 2007, 06:25:32 PM
what's wrong with the art style? the environments look gorgeous.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on June 10, 2007, 06:32:41 PM
I have no qualms about the environments, but the characters look so bland to me; the items/clothes also look meh. Basically I have the same complaints about other MMO's that have more realistic art styles like Lineage, or FFXI.

I like the kiddie cartoony look, I admit :-\
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Van Cruncheon on June 10, 2007, 06:49:44 PM
the characters look good, and the texture detail on the gear is nuts. they're trying to be more realistic, sure, but it's also pretty stylish -- although apparently not enough so for your nintendo-addled juvenile sensibilities!
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on June 10, 2007, 07:11:52 PM
lulz that's the thing. I prefer a more cartoony look with certain types of games. Personally I think PS3 Home is realllly ugly, and would do better with a more stylized look.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: FatalT on June 10, 2007, 07:24:21 PM
I still kinda play WoW. I'm on Baelgun with 1up's guild though, "Can't Quit You." If you've ever listened to the Legendary Thread podcast from 1up, it's the guild they talk about. I'm a 48 gnome rogue named "Turdnugget" :D
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: etiolate on June 10, 2007, 08:05:55 PM
I haven't tried LOTRO because I don't want something modeled so closely to wow.  Waiting for Conand and potbs, or until someone does something better with the gameplay and battles.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Nikashi on June 10, 2007, 09:06:40 PM
I have a level 70 Undead Rogue, a level 31 Belf Paladin and a level 23 Belf Mage, all on Deathwing. If anyone is gonna start a new toon, my character names are:

Bellamuerte

Bellarosa

Aerilis.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on June 11, 2007, 03:56:06 AM
Why is it so hard to sell 20 bars of GOLD? You'd think that stuff would be flying off the AH omg; first I had it up for 12g, then 8g...I'm not going any lower. This week my selling has been going pretty well outside of the gold. Mithril sells very well for high prices; up to 7-8g. Iron ore can net me around 4 gold, which is great.

I've noticed heavy stone sells mere minutes after I put it on AH. As time has gone by its prices have gone up from liek 50s to 80s now, which is good. Silk cloth still sells well also.

I have like 226g overall, which is impressive to me
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Fragamemnon on June 11, 2007, 04:09:07 AM
I have a level 70 Undead Rogue, a level 31 Belf Paladin and a level 23 Belf Mage, all on Deathwing. If anyone is gonna start a new toon, my character names are:

Bellamuerte

Bellarosa

Aerilis.

Deathwing's a fun place to play, I liked my time there. It's a good choice if you want a more advanced server with less of the been-here-since-release snobbery of some of the other older servers.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: etiolate on June 14, 2007, 02:53:46 AM
Arrgh.  This is just me whining.

I have the raiding guilds on my server asking me to join. The guild I'm in now is nice and friendly and laid back. The only thing is, I do want to try raiding. I still get invited to 25 man raids(which fall apart from not enough peeps), based on being friends with the other guilds, but getting into Kara and stuff as a non-guildie is harder. If I stop playing, the guild I'm in is better and chill. I think PD likes it too.  If I do go back to playing, the main thing left is raiding and I'd need to be in a raid guild. There's no choice I'd be totally happy with.  Even on which guild I choose.  I could go to the top guild on the server, but they are very regulated and systematic and I don't know if I'd like that.  I could go to one of the second guilds guilds that split off from the top guild, but I know less people in those guilds.  Or I could join the newer guild full of people I know well, but they are smaller in size and ability to raid.  I feel like I'm going to hurt someone's feelings by whatever I choose, unless it is to do nothing, but I might get bored again that way.  I have wow-pals in all the guilds that I've played with for awhile.  Personality wise, I'm not a follower or leader, mostly a rogue in-between sort.  So I solo and do my own thing a lot of the time, and I float from one thing to the other and have no qualms with people. This was great through most of the game, as I was always just the non-guildie healer on call.  I avoid a lot of gay drama that way.  I don't want to start gay drama now.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on August 09, 2007, 06:40:08 PM
BUMP +5

Since this is the official Evilbore World of Warcraft thread I figured it needed a bump. :hyper

For the last few days I've been doing Blackrock Depths trying to get certain gear. The XP is great, and it's a challenging instance. Yes it's hella annoying once you realize you've been inside the dungeon for 4 hours, but I really want a few items in here, mainly:
http://thottbot.com/i11669 (Naglering - ring)
http://thottbot.com/i11745

Armory:
http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Ravenholdt&n=Goinio

I got the helm, cape, and wrist armor in BRD.


Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on August 09, 2007, 06:41:49 PM
PVP! PVP!
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on August 09, 2007, 06:48:34 PM
Too much lag :-\

Plus I'm a protection spec warrior, which means I'm basically useless in PVP :'(
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on September 23, 2007, 04:20:58 AM
ELITE BUMP


I finally got to lv58 tonight. After a Stratholme group fell apart since we couldn't find a healer, I decided to head to the outlands. Eventually I made my way to the place where the portal is. Before going in I watched the huuge battle going on among NPCs, to the east of the portal. After awhile I noticed the enemies were all gone except this HUGE pit master or whatever. Naturally I decided to run down there and shoot him with my gun, but once the shot was fired a bunch of huge elites spawned on top of me and took me out with 2 hits lol

I must say I was confused inside the portal. I ran across these enemies who I would take down to like 10hp, then after that I couldn't hurt them anymore; it said something about a stone near them, but I couldn't touch it for some reason. MEH. I decided to just explore around and wtf I saw lv44 people. I thought it was just for lv58+? I was in the Blasted Lands btw.

Was I in the wrong place?
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on September 23, 2007, 12:56:00 PM
*shrug* I made level 43 and got my BIRD MOUNT. On my way to 44 :D
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Van Cruncheon on September 23, 2007, 01:01:01 PM
thanks for the gold, maf! my eq is kickin' now. got some good deals on lvl10-13 eq in ah this morning, and now i can roll through these last eversong quests.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on September 23, 2007, 01:04:12 PM
haha, make sure you do the staff one, lemme know if you need help for it.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Van Cruncheon on September 23, 2007, 01:05:01 PM
i literally doubled my mana, which makes grinding ever so much less of a pain.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on September 23, 2007, 01:06:16 PM
Mana am important total. The AH has been better over the weekend in terms of low level gear. Kinda sucked for high level lol.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on September 23, 2007, 01:13:08 PM
Nothing worse than having a low mana healer. I've died so many times due to that

Skilly: I'm out of mana!
*Goinio has died*
*group wipes except the hunter*
Skilly: Whoops, lol I don't know how to rez either

 :maf
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: cubicle47b on September 23, 2007, 01:17:35 PM
That's not necessarily why healers go out of mana.  Sometimes it's an undergeared tank, not being at full mana on the pull, an overall lack of crowd control or just lack of control of the fight, pulling multiple groups, etc.  Or they might just be bad healers who don't know what heals to use and when.

Have you started an alt on MAF's server yet, PD?  I'm thinking about playing a couple hours this afternoon.

edit: If they don't know how to rez they're fucking idiots, though.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Van Cruncheon on September 23, 2007, 01:31:09 PM
i'm a belf priest named "medeane". belfs suck, but i hadn't seen their starting areas.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on September 23, 2007, 01:45:57 PM
Belf starting area > draenei starting area tho. Easier and nicer to look at.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: cubicle47b on September 23, 2007, 01:47:35 PM
The blood elf starting area is fantastic.  It makes it hard to start a character of any other race because vanilla WoW is so lacking in comparison.  I'm trying to think of what class to play.  I'm kind of leaning towards another paladin because they do everything well up until the mid-30s and are really fun to play because of it.  A druid would work too but they suck until level 20 and I don't plan to play often.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on September 23, 2007, 01:51:44 PM
Mulgore is perhaps the worst starting area ever. Quests that start and end at opposite sides of the area, aggro mobs all over the place. Takes hours to get to level 10.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: cubicle47b on September 23, 2007, 01:54:45 PM
I hate the Orc/Troll starting area the worst.  Durotar is so fucking bland.  At least Mulgore is pretty.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on September 23, 2007, 01:56:12 PM
Haha, its a pretty Hell.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on September 23, 2007, 02:08:39 PM
Alright I'll start today.

EDIT: Wait, I'd have to change servers? I want Goinio to stay on the server I'm at now  :-\
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: cubicle47b on September 23, 2007, 02:29:58 PM
You don't change Goinio's realm by clicking the change servers button.  I started a paladin named Ismaire.  PD, roll a dps class.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on September 23, 2007, 03:28:22 PM
I figured it out, and rolled a pally before I saw your post. I'm already lv5; I'm assuming you'll go holy spec right? I'll just pick something else  :-\

I'm Azelion.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on September 23, 2007, 03:46:04 PM
ill send you guys a couple gold each to help get the ball rolling, post yer name cub. Or are you guys alliance? I hope not cause the pop is already horribly skewed on muradin towards alliance lol.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on September 23, 2007, 03:48:28 PM
Blood Elf: they call me Azelion

Also don't send me moneys yet. I want to see how long it takes for me to make 1g this time around
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on September 23, 2007, 04:54:11 PM
Sure sure, just lemme know if you guys need help.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Van Cruncheon on September 23, 2007, 05:06:55 PM
man, the troll area in eversong was droppin' greens like mad -- i got like five decent greens. shoulda gone enchant after all. :'(
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on September 23, 2007, 05:12:10 PM
yeah 3 dropped for me right when I logged on, boggle
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Candyflip on September 23, 2007, 06:48:00 PM
Still trying to sell my stupid account ::)
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: cubicle47b on September 23, 2007, 08:14:49 PM
Omg dual wield.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on September 23, 2007, 08:28:34 PM
10 levels and nearly 2g in one play session. Not bad

Haven't picked a profession yet
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on September 24, 2007, 02:50:06 AM
Got to lv12; looks like I may be ready for an instance tomorrow night. We'll see though: I got homework and MNF

Being able to heal myself is soo awesome. I can take on multiple mobs and grind 2-3 times as fast lol. And skinning gives me an excuse to grind lol. I figured going leatherworking/skinning would be the best thing to do; I can sell the mats and make stuff for Cubicle's rogue.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: cubicle47b on September 24, 2007, 03:08:06 AM
I'd prefer to keep my playtime to the weekends.  I don't want to get into the habit of coming home from work and playing until I have to go to bed again.  When you dream about your character at night and spend part of your workday on wowhead it's gone way too far and as Frag said, it's a dangerous game for me.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on September 24, 2007, 03:11:07 AM
I'll get around lv15 and wait a bit, for you and Drinky. In the meantime I'll get some homework done, and get Goinio to lv60
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on September 25, 2007, 01:52:45 PM
I'm at lv14 now. Right now I'm still getting a grip on the class. Being able to heal myself is pretty helpful, but you have to time it correctly - especially when fighting enemies who are higher levels. Once my health starts getting near the half way point I start the heal. I need to get faster but it's going good so far.

And damn, skinning is cool. It goes a lot faster than mining, and it gives me the perfect excuse to grind. Plus my health/mana regenerates as I do it, allowing me to skin and then run into battle immediately
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: cubicle47b on September 25, 2007, 01:59:57 PM
I'm now an overpowered level 7 warlock.  Probably the only level 7 (or non-raiding) warlock on the server with a quartz cast bar and a /stopcasting /cast shadow bolt macro for bringing the pain.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Van Cruncheon on September 25, 2007, 02:48:03 PM
i'll try to get 14 tonight
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: cubicle47b on September 25, 2007, 03:01:13 PM
I'll play tonight and try to get to 13-14 since I have a couple books coming in this weekend that I need to focus on.  Oh fuck, I wonder what the express edition of Oracle 10g is going to do to my framerate.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on September 26, 2007, 01:57:53 AM
I'm kinda bummed with both my characters. Since I renewed my account I've had a horrible time finding groups for instances. It's like no one does Stratholme, LBRS, etc. Instances keep my attention far more than grinding alone slowly, and it's the way I find gear. I hate asking my guild because some low level always wants to come, and if I say no the GM will be like "ahem!"   :-\

Azelion is coming along fast, and is lv15. But the server seems so dead. I was in the LFG que most of my playtime today trying to do the Deadmines or something, and no one was looking. When I was this level with Goinio there were always tons of groups doing DM and having a great time together. And that was when the server was "low" in population.

The weekend has to be better
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on September 26, 2007, 02:19:46 AM
The new patch had a lot of backlash, its kept some people off I think. On the other hand I have a purple and a really good blue I cant sell to save my life. Its bullshit but AH is fucked and everyones hates it now, and that makes it hard.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Van Cruncheon on September 26, 2007, 02:31:07 AM
yeah, folks are real pissy about the patch. general chat was rage against the ah changes and the mage pvp nerfs.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on September 26, 2007, 02:39:31 AM
Yea the whole "someone is thinking about buying your item!" thing is dumb. I still made a good deal of cash on the AH today. I had the linen cloth market in a clear monopoly, and I capitalized on the high demand for light leather (90s for 20) before it dropped significantly (45s for 20) a few hours ago. Usually I undercut the accepted price in order to outsell the competition and redirect the market, but since I'm a poor, lowly lv15 I played ball straight up. AH is fun just for the economics imo

and omg, wtf does "nerfs" mean
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Van Cruncheon on September 26, 2007, 02:42:26 AM
nerf = a skill/class was softened, ruining its effectiveness. there's balancing, which is reducing the strength of an overpowered ability/class; and nerfing, which is reducing a class/ability nobody really considers to be overpowered
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on September 26, 2007, 02:47:01 AM
Someone made the INTELLIGENT suggestion to just list the item as SOLD in our Auction tab and remove it from the Auction List instead of sending us goddamned mails. Now we get mail spam for selling shit.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on September 26, 2007, 02:53:34 AM
VERY annoying, especially since I sell so much stuff on AH. I also like the idea of not sending it to the mail box

btw do you guys use macros? I played around with them for the first time today, and was wondering what are the advantages you guys see in them.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: cubicle47b on September 26, 2007, 05:40:08 AM
Also, I'm guessing a lot of people played Halo 3 until 5 AM to beat the campaign instead of playing WoW.

I use a macro to cut down on the time between casts because I have high latency.  I have a casting bar that tells me how bad my latency is at that moment and the macro uses /stopcasting (so I can send the server a new command without the client rejecting it because I'm already doing something) and then the spell I want to cast.  By the time these commands reach the server I've already cast my last spell.  This probably takes an average of .25 seconds off my shadow bolt cast times.  I also had quite a few macros for communicating during raids.  Most other things are taken care of by mods.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on September 26, 2007, 11:13:47 AM
yeah im hoping my stuff sells today, then again there isnt much I could buy. AH is a wasteland.

And no I dont use any macros.

Edit: Lol, it looks like the latest patch is causing even more framerate issues for players. Blizzard is still doing the Mods/Soundcard shuffle.

http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=1778045575&sid=1&pageNo=1
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on September 26, 2007, 12:20:11 PM
Whiney bastard! When I stand in Shattrath I get around 5fps, if not less >:(
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on September 27, 2007, 06:57:32 PM
Just got out of the absolute worse group I've ever been in. Who would think that taking a freaking lv70 rogue to Stratholme would end in a two and a half hour disaster   >:(
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: cubicle47b on September 27, 2007, 07:10:46 PM
I'll be on tonight.  I need to relax and grind for a while after work.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Van Cruncheon on September 27, 2007, 07:27:42 PM
I'll be on tonight. I made 13 last night and am in a good groove in the ghostlands. ping me if you wanna group and knock out some quests.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on September 27, 2007, 09:02:08 PM
So I was trying to finally get a group together for Stratholme earlier, and finally found 3 people to help. We were looking for a DPS class to come along when a lv70 rogue whispered me, saying he wanted to come. I'm always wary about doing stuff with 70s because you get far less XP. I said ok though because I figured hey, at least I should get some cool items with this guy helping. WRONG

When I'm group leader I stress very few things, but each is important. First, I go into battle first. Second, after battles I don't attack again until everyone is ready (I even ask). Most people understand this strategy and go along with it, but the lv70 seemed to think that since he was such a high level we could simply throw out the gameplay. WRONG

Right after we cleared a mob he'd run head first into another - not giving our healer enough time to build up mana. So often the healer would run out of mana causing major problems. To make matters worse the rogue couldn't keep arrgo, so after a few seconds the mob would run to the healer. I was able to fix this later by making clear that I'm the fucking tank, but the problems continued. Even when the healer went afk this lv70 tard would run into battle lol. OMG

All I got was this necklace:
http://www.wowarmory.com/item-info.xml?i=18728

Nice stamina increase
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on October 01, 2007, 02:14:42 AM
(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e86/PhoenixDark1/view.jpg)

(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e86/PhoenixDark1/dead.jpg)

 :lol
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on October 01, 2007, 05:06:31 AM
I finally spent some time in the outlands and damn, looks like people were right about its awesome-ness. Within that 1hr+ amount of time I started three quest chains and got these items:
http://www.wowarmory.com/item-info.xml?i=29945
http://www.wowarmory.com/item-info.xml?i=29919
!!

Both were huge upgrades in terms of my armor rating; the shield added like 600+ armor. I replaced blue items but hey.

No wonder I can never find anyone for Stratholme lol, everyone's in outlands.


btw I did Dire Maul last night with a lv70 and 69, as well as a lv60. The lv69 mage needed help to get his epic mount so he didn't refuse my entry into the group heh. Mostly I watched the high lv players own shit...
(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e86/PhoenixDark1/mythology.jpg)

Amazing instance; I can't wait to get to lv60-61 so I can do it with similar leveled people. It reminded me of something straight out of greek mythology, even moreso than Uldaman.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Ellrick on October 01, 2007, 09:21:16 AM
Dire Maul was my favorite of the high end instances back in the day. Especially the ogre side, where you get a loot bonus for defeating all of the bosses before the final boss. Upper and Lower Blackrock Spire were terrible.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on October 01, 2007, 10:55:38 AM
Im almost level 47, the cold held me back quite a bit. Still boom fire mage crits omg
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on October 01, 2007, 01:21:45 PM
I'll get Azelion up to lv18 today but I'll be focusing on Goinio; today's far too rainy for me to go to school
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on October 02, 2007, 01:01:36 AM
New mage changes in 2.3 patch make MAF frown kinda:

Evocation: Return locked at 15% of mana every 2 seconds. Evocation is 8 seconds, locking return at 60% of total mana. Gay. If you cant figure out how to scale the skill at least let mages compensate by spirit dumping. Motherfuck.

No more detect magic: WHO CARES. Now I can automatically see crap I never needed to see in the first place. FIX OTHER STUFF!

Also: 47, booyah. Also respecced:

http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Muradin&n=Vynitha
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on October 02, 2007, 10:01:50 AM
Wooo, new patch finally added two new GYs to Tanaris. No more insanely stupid walks to corpse.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on October 02, 2007, 10:17:14 AM
Nice mage. I'll get on Azelion later today hopefully but omg I'm distracted by the outlands.

http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Ravenholdt&n=Goinio
(you have to click on the helmet to see what it is; must be a glitch)

My armor rating is insane. Ever since I got the new shield/helmet/chest armor I've been able to take out 2-3 lv58 hellboars at the same time. On many occassions I'll have less than 50% of my health and still be able to beat the enemy without using a potion and/or running. I'm still using that axe; the Foe Reaver is much better but I need to get my sword rating up higher. By the end of today it should be high enough for me to capitalize on it. It's at 273/295 right now
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on October 02, 2007, 11:05:44 AM
Yeah, the mage forum talked me out of the frost/ice armor talent buff and convinced me to go as clearcasting in arcane then max out fire instead of dicking around with ice since fire mages almost never REALLY use ice. I guess fire/ice mages are pretty durable but lose a lot of DPS potential. Most mages argue that fire in end game PVP still isnt viable..in that you can't be one of the best. A good player can still do OK with fire spec, but not nearly as well as the usual ice/arcane builds.

Oh well ill give it a go anyway ;-)

Ive never been to the outlands. I have a level 60 character on Gilneas but like most of my early characters he's kinda busted. Each new character I make tends to be more thought out than the last in terms of professions, completed quests, equipment, and talent build.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Prost on October 02, 2007, 09:19:26 PM
Yeah, the mage forum talked me out of the frost/ice armor talent buff and convinced me to go as clearcasting in arcane then max out fire instead of dicking around with ice since fire mages almost never REALLY use ice. I guess fire/ice mages are pretty durable but lose a lot of DPS potential. Most mages argue that fire in end game PVP still isnt viable..in that you can't be one of the best. A good player can still do OK with fire spec, but not nearly as well as the usual ice/arcane builds.

Oh well ill give it a go anyway ;-)

Ive never been to the outlands. I have a level 60 character on Gilneas but like most of my early characters he's kinda busted. Each new character I make tends to be more thought out than the last in terms of professions, completed quests, equipment, and talent build.

just level to 70 then raid with pickups (maybe the most frustating situation a person can be in).

get some good gear, then go apply to some high level guilds where the leader thinks he has a 12 incher and you just play bitch for gear.

then you're all maxed out, and if you want to make a name for yourself go camp some low level pvp area for days on end until someone on the forum bitches about you and then boom you're famous.

easy right
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on October 04, 2007, 03:06:51 PM
I got to lv60 last night :D
http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Ravenholdt&n=Goinio

I'm surprised at how much I'm able to accomplish in the outlands, in short periods of time.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: whiteACID on October 05, 2007, 10:01:01 AM
Still trying to sell my stupid account ::)
what character/class/race do you have? and what server? what level? how much are you asking?

i'm just curious...   :spin
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: cubicle47b on October 07, 2007, 01:38:19 AM
Brewfest is awesome.  I want my pair of lederhosen so bad.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on October 07, 2007, 02:25:12 AM
Im enjoying brewfest a lot. Got my mug and my invisible pet. Need to get the hat and stuff too.

Also hit 48 with my mage tonight, ding ding.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: cubicle47b on October 07, 2007, 02:33:31 AM
I got the hat, mug, and pet.  And projectile vomited a lot.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on October 07, 2007, 02:41:45 AM
im having trouble with the ram task for the orcs but other than that its been fun.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: cubicle47b on October 07, 2007, 04:31:56 AM
I can now summon my skank.  Yay.

edit: My unit frames seems to think she's a VW.  Also, ew at my latency.

(http://i22.tinypic.com/2rxibn6.jpg)
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on October 07, 2007, 06:17:21 AM
lol I never participate in the fests, maybe I should. I was in a group doing the Ramparts and our main tank wouldn't stop drinking. After complaining about the healer (who was doing his best) the dude was like "i'm goin back to beerfest...hic"

Bastard. He got kicked out our guild ages ago and I vowed to never play with him again, but finding people for ramparts is tough


Edit: cub your UI is weird  :o
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on October 07, 2007, 11:43:08 AM
brewfest is a lot of fun. Im usually drinking while I wow, too lol
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: cubicle47b on October 07, 2007, 12:40:36 PM
Edit: cub your UI is weird  :o

Yeah, I copied my paladin's raid interface when I started this character (which was heavily specialized) and have made a few quick modifications but haven't spent any time on it.  Here's my paladin's interface for comparison -

(http://i24.tinypic.com/5zgooy.jpg)

I needed a ridiculous amount of information to heal / cleanse / buff well and troubleshoot boss attempts.  Even at 1920x1200 and a reduced UI scale it's tough to get everything you need without filling up your entire screen.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on October 07, 2007, 12:52:59 PM
Damn. Do you click all the spells or use hotkeys?
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: trh on October 07, 2007, 01:06:22 PM
(http://xs220.xs.to/xs220/07400/full6559.jpg)

What about Grid? That's what I used back when I played a Pala, works perfectly.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: cubicle47b on October 07, 2007, 01:26:40 PM
My healing and some of my utility spells were tied to clique, a mod that allowed me to use modifier keys and click on a unit frame to cast a spell.  I put important fight specific macros / spells on the 1-4 keys, but clicked while attacking (which was rare). edit: You can see my Vashj hotkeys above.


Grid would reduce the size of my raid frames but I didn't like them that small and sRaidFrames had a few features that I loved like a very clear indicator when people were out of range, letting me know when a tank used last stand or shield wall, and it would display multiple debuffs that I could cleanse instead of just one.  I tried Grid and wanted to like it but it just didn't work for me.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: trh on October 07, 2007, 01:33:27 PM
My healing and some of my utility spells were tied to clique, a mod that allowed me to use modifier keys and click on a unit frame to cast a spell.  I put important fight specific macros / spells on the 1-4 keys, but clicked while attacking (which was rare). edit: You can see my Vashj hotkeys above.


Grid would reduce the size of my raid frames but I didn't like them that small and sRaidFrames had a few features that I loved like a very clear indicator when people were out of range, letting me know when a tank used last stand or shield wall, and it would display multiple debuffs that I could cleanse instead of just one.  I tried Grid and wanted to like it but it just didn't work for me.
It's pretty clear when they're out of range since the square will be all darkish, and I've done some heavy raiding with Grid and I never had a problem with debuffs. Probably just takes some getting used to. It doesn't show mana though which is a shame.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: cubicle47b on October 07, 2007, 01:55:40 PM
I didn't think the range check indicator was clear enough.  The only thing that I missed by not having grid was incoming heals and not many other people were using grid so it was kind of useless.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: trh on October 07, 2007, 02:06:54 PM
I didn't think the range check indicator was clear enough.  The only thing that I missed by not having grid was incoming heals and not many other people were using grid so it was kind of useless.
I don't know, personally I never had any problems seeing who's out of range really.

And I just remembered that there's this too:
(http://www.wowace.com/mediawiki/images/f/f4/Grid-description.png)

Didn't actually know all this stuff when I used it. :lol
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: cubicle47b on October 07, 2007, 02:15:46 PM
I forgot about the shield and renew indicators but we had one holy priest so w/e.  Aggro on sRaidFrames outlines the entire frame in red.  It's just much easier for me to see things quickly on.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: whiteACID on October 07, 2007, 06:09:38 PM
Damn. Do you click all the spells or use hotkeys?
I pretty much bind all of my spells and abilities except for ones that I rarely use. I have all the keys on the left side of my keyboard bound plus shift+those keys. It makes game play so much easier.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on October 08, 2007, 05:52:08 PM
I put my most important spells in the 1-4 keys. So taunt, sunder, shield block, and revenge are the top 4. Most of my instant shouts and rage generate spell are in the top right of the screen
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Disposable White Guy on October 08, 2007, 07:14:12 PM
I put my most important spells in the 1-4 keys. So taunt, sunder, shield block, and revenge are the top 4. Most of my instant shouts and rage generate spell are in the top right of the screen

Do you still use the keyboard to turn?  When I would play, I reset all of my keys so that ASDX were strafe left, move forward, strafe right, move backward respectively. QWERTYFGZCVB were all bound to offensive or CC abilities, trinkets, bandages, and pots.  1-6 I usually left as defensive abilities, and then I used Shift+ and Ctrl+ variations of each bind for even more abilities.

Once you pick up mouse turning, the game becomes a little different imho.  It ends up becoming gear vs. gear/reaction time vs. reaction time.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Synbios459 on October 08, 2007, 07:43:12 PM
(http://i24.tinypic.com/5zgooy.jpg)
I'm going to save and post this screen for whenever you talk of girl difficultys:)
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on October 09, 2007, 04:19:56 AM
Clearly I need to use macros. These sound awesome
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Mouseover sunder: cc breaking early? - this macro will sunder the mob your mouse pointer is over without losing your current target (the mob must still be in melee range, of course). It also checks if the target is actually hostile and alive before doing this.

      #show Sunder Armor
      /cast [target=mouseover, harm, nodead] [] Sunder Armor
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#show Sunder Armor
/cast [target=mouseover, harm, nodead] Sunder Armor

This macro will sunder the mob your mouse pointer is over without losing your current target (the mob must still be in melee range, of course). It also checks if the target is actually hostile and alive before doing this. Theoretically, since Sunder Armor does not do any damage, it should even be possible with this macro to sunder a sheeped or shackled mob without breaking sheep or shackle, though I haven't tried this yet.

The same macro can of course be used with other instant abilities (Revenge, Shield Bash, Shield Slam, Concussion Blow, Disarm) by simply replacing Sunder Armor in the macro text with a different ability. Note that Concussion Blow does not generate any threat, but may still be useful for damage mitigation purposes



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Tab sunder: seamlessly tab to the nearest target, sunder them and switch back to your current target – you won't even see the switch but they'll be sundered... ;)

      /targetenemy
      /cast Sunder Armor
      /targetlasttarget
http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html;jsessionid=4A14E9CC1B9C35E18F212180948E03FD?topicId=55820235&sid=1

That first one sounds awesome.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on October 09, 2007, 04:48:33 AM
The only I've used was one for stance dancing lol. Damn I feel pretty nooby, even moreso than usual. This would have really helped me earlier. I'll make sure to do implement this tomorrow in instances

I signed on right quick to check out the sundering macro. I pulled a couple mobs in hellfire pen and it worked nicely.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Candyflip on October 09, 2007, 05:05:26 AM
I used macros to play dressup only. It was fun. Lol. :-[

It was cool. I'm very stylish like that. I did this the first time in a different MMORPG I played before WoW was out, called Lineage 2. I was walking around with my brandished sword and shield and heavy armor and I was like "WTF is this shit. Real warriors don't constantly walk around in their gear like this". So I bought some awesome mage armor. The game is a shit standard Korean grindfest game but the designs of some of the mage armors completely floor me. So I was extremely stylish like that, as a warrior, walkin' around in some decent fucking clothes like a PIMP. I simply caried this over tradition to World of Warcraft. I gotta say in Lineage 2 it was easier to switch around equipment, but in World of Warcraft it was possible too, using macros that I had to make myself.

Totally worth it. It's really fun.
Sorry to break it to you, but there was no reason to make all those macros :(
http://www.curse.com/downloads/details/1482/
Makes life so much easier for a variety of classes, most notably warriors. And people who like to walk around naked sometimes.

Also PD, you should take a look at some of these macros: http://www.wowwiki.com/Useful_macros/Warrior

I think I'm going to keep my account and start leveling up my Warrior. I actually had a real life friend who's an officer in my guild tell everyone I got hit by a car so I could get out of raiding without having everyone pissed at me for transferring, taking T5 and other SSC/TK gear and then quitting. They're trying Kael'thas now, but I have a hard time giving a shit about progression when there's already another expansion on the horizon. It feels pointless ::)
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Synbios459 on October 09, 2007, 05:12:06 AM
So what are the must-have mods?
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Candyflip on October 09, 2007, 05:24:48 AM
So what are the must-have mods?
Depends on what you're doing and what you're playing. I really don't use much more than I have to, and as a Hunter I don't need much. Some people are really anal about their mods too. The more popular are Auctioneer, SWStats, BigWigs (or DeadlyBossMods if you like buggy bars), Omen Threat Meter, Item Rack, Atlas Loot, Natur EnemyCastBar, Gatherer, SuperInspect, CT_RaidAssist (I guess),and Cartographer. Then there's still plenty more to fit in for whatever class you're playing. Curse-Gaming is probably one of the better sources for most mods.

Sorry to break it to you, but there was no reason to make all those macros :(
http://www.curse.com/downloads/details/1482/
Makes life so much easier for a variety of classes, most notably warriors. And people who like to walk around naked sometimes.

Doesn't matter, I quit WoW. Shit probably didn't even existed when I was still playin'. BITCH.
Oh. Reading comprehension ftw.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Synbios459 on October 09, 2007, 05:37:59 AM
So what are the must-have mods?
Depends on what you're doing and what you're playing. I really don't use much more than I have to, and as a Hunter I don't need much. Some people are really anal about their mods too. The more popular are Auctioneer, SWStats, BigWigs (or DeadlyBossMods if you like buggy bars), Omen Threat Meter, Item Rack, Atlas Loot, Natur EnemyCastBar, Gatherer, SuperInspect, CT_RaidAssist (I guess),and Cartographer. Then there's still plenty more to fit in for whatever class you're playing. Curse-Gaming is probably one of the better sources for most mods.

Sorry to break it to you, but there was no reason to make all those macros :(
http://www.curse.com/downloads/details/1482/
Makes life so much easier for a variety of classes, most notably warriors. And people who like to walk around naked sometimes.

Doesn't matter, I quit WoW. Shit probably didn't even existed when I was still playin'. BITCH.
Oh. Reading comprehension ftw.
Well right now I'm just a lvl 12 Paladin. Mainly anything that'll help with making finding areas/quests easier.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Candyflip on October 09, 2007, 05:40:14 AM
Oh. Well, Cartographer and MapCoords are good for that. Oh, and www.thottbot.com is your friend for questing too.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: cubicle47b on October 09, 2007, 11:45:53 AM
I'm going to save and post this screen for whenever you talk of girl difficultys:)

Good luck with that.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on October 09, 2007, 11:52:16 AM
 :lol

I've got exams on the 11th so my gaming will be limited for a bit

Thanks for the link Mute  :bow
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on October 09, 2007, 01:22:08 PM
Almost 49 booyah.

Also macros are for scrubs :p
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Synbios459 on October 09, 2007, 02:32:18 PM
Hey thanks. One other thing, is there anyway to make the text pop-up instantly? Like when I'm talking to someone I don't have to wait for it to slowly scroll before I can accept a quest?
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on October 09, 2007, 02:40:56 PM
Yes, its in the interface/advanced options iirc.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on October 09, 2007, 09:38:09 PM
I did the blood furnace earlier, or at least as much as possible. It's hard to progress when you're dumbass lv59 mage doesn't know what poly is. THE DIRECTIONS ARE SIMPLE

Group Leader: ok attack skull, pet tanks x, poly star
Goinio, the healer, the hunter: sounds good
*mage doesn't do anything*
Group Leader: poly the star plz
Mage: what's poly lol?
Goinio: ...
Hunter: sheep?
Mage: Ohhhh ok
*mage poly's the skull*
Mage: which one do I poly again?

 >:(

My sunder macro worked perfectly, and I kept arrgo pretty nicely - that is, except for when the mage poly'd the wrong mob and ran out of mana - at which point he'd run around like a distinguished mentally-challenged fellow. I also used a macro which allowed me to use Revenge on one mob while I attacked the main mob target. Very useful. Despite the mage we got all the way to a boss chamber. This long sequence was unbeatable due to our levels: 3-4 lv62 orcs would come out of jails in the wall, and then after we beat them another group would come out. We took out like 3 groups but couldn't finish them all. Oh well. I'll go back with all lv60 or higher next time
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: etiolate on October 12, 2007, 08:51:24 AM
:lol :lol Oh dear merciful gawd

http://www.dailygaming.net/index.php?name=News&file=article&sid=263

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The ESRB rating on some World of Warcraft servers is about to change during gameplay in a big way. Blizzard announced that they will be releasing several new ERP “Erotic Roleplay” and ERP-PvP “Erotic Roleplaying Player Versus Player” realms that cater to the adult audience in World of Warcraft that’s more comfortable carrying on their sex life in a virtual world than in the real world.

Several old realms will be converted to the new ruleset to test the waters before new servers are opened. Ravenholdt, the server at the center of the ERP debate, will be the first to operate under the new ruleset. Blizzard stated in a blue post that they felt it would be better to try this new ruleset on a server that already has a large existing ERP population. They also hope that the new rules will attract more people to the server, which until now has been suffering from a low population made up mostly of horny blood elves.

Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on October 12, 2007, 09:48:00 AM
49 woo

Also got this for 40 gold

http://www.wowarmory.com/item-info.xml?i=3075
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: cubicle47b on October 12, 2007, 01:54:59 PM
I agree, that can't be real.  How you go from temp bans for swearing in general to this, I don't know.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on October 12, 2007, 01:59:40 PM
While TECHNICALLY about 3:1 Alliance:Horde ratio, it looks like we're getting back to 2:1 on Muradin. Huzzah.

I say technically cause I know half of the horde are Alliance alts :(

Also its depressing to see the level distribution on this server, no wonder its so hard to find a group.

and wow, looks like there's a server where Horde rules

http://www.warcraftrealms.com/census.php?serverid=26&factionid=-1&minlevel=10&maxlevel=70&servertypeid=1
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: cubicle47b on October 12, 2007, 02:15:12 PM
Mal'Ganis is home to Gurgthock / Elitist Jerks.  It's the server Something Awful picked at launch.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on October 12, 2007, 02:26:41 PM
Well that explains that lol
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: etiolate on October 12, 2007, 06:40:07 PM
That can't be real. :o

It is not, just a wink and a nudge at what Ravenholdt has become.  People care more how you flirt in chat than how well you play on this server.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on October 12, 2007, 07:10:34 PM
WTF Ravenholdt 

I might have to move Goinio to another server. This can't be lifee :lol
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on October 12, 2007, 09:29:41 PM
Wow, got the Robes of Insight for 50 gold and Eye of Flame for 40 gold today. Godbless the broken econ of Muradin and the hunters who dont buy purple casting gear :D
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on October 15, 2007, 01:28:31 PM
Due to my ongoing computer problems I'll be off WoW for some time; it's a driver issue or something, so no games work outside of StarCraft (surprisingly). A technician should be out late next week hopefully.

I hope you guys haven't faarr surpassed Azelion. It's been hard to concentrate on him due to me becoming obsessed with the Outlands, but once I get back I'll speed him through some instances. Should be awesome
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on October 15, 2007, 02:07:09 PM
I hit 50, TF2 is taking up my time! Ill be gaining rest xp then hitting WoW again next week!

http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Muradin&n=Vynitha
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: cubicle47b on October 15, 2007, 04:34:51 PM
My lock is level 22 but I haven't played in a week.  I played through Warcraft III last week (for some reason) then played FFT, Portal, and Half-life 2 last weekend.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on October 15, 2007, 04:44:58 PM
I should be able to get there without much trouble, once this damn computer is fixed. I bet it's not even a graphics card issue  :'(
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on October 27, 2007, 07:44:54 PM
(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e86/PhoenixDark1/stats2.jpg)
Good percentage? Healer had the least damage taken  :heart

That was right before we took on the last boss. We finished the instance with little trouble actually. The only thing that made up wipe was the first big boss fight, where cages of orcs are released one after another.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: etiolate on October 27, 2007, 08:53:49 PM
I was using a raid mod for healing that highlighted who was taking damage, who had threat and worked really well.  I forget the name though!

Ah it looks like this:

(http://www.mapored.com/etiolate/voidreaver.jpg)

I use the basic spell bar because I am just use to it and moving the buttons would mess me up.  Plus Tree healing only has three spells.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Disposable White Guy on October 27, 2007, 09:10:20 PM
I was using a raid mod for healing that highlighted who was taking damage, who had threat and worked really well.  I forget the name though!

http://wow.curse.com/downloads/details/4204/

KLHThreatMeter

That one brings back memories of wasting life in Molten Core :-\  It was a handy addon for raiders or anyone interested in party stats.  Its only downside was that it was not entirely accurate all the time, but I think that was changed when Blizzard upgraded their interface to have certain hidden communication channels specifically for such addons; everyone grouped up was in sync with each other every time they grouped.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: cubicle47b on October 27, 2007, 10:09:13 PM
Void Reaver is a fun fight.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on October 28, 2007, 12:17:32 PM
Almmost level 52.Gonna try to get a ZF group again today :p

http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Muradin&n=Vynitha

I need more stam, sigh
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on October 28, 2007, 01:51:08 PM
http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Ravenholdt&n=Goinio
 :bow

I got a better cloak and I'm waiting to get a +120 armor enchant. I'M RICH WITH 613 GOLDS
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Prost on October 29, 2007, 10:57:50 AM
its sad ive been playing some lately and split tapping is still the way to go.

im so disappointed though.... grinding is not nearly as effective as questing now.  a person can pull a level in under 2 hours in their thirties.   

BGs are hella fun, and we alllways win as the horde side, but it gets repetitive.

i just want to be 70 with 'ok' gear and help out lower levels with little tricks, lol
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on October 29, 2007, 11:07:49 AM
Yeah grinding sucks a load these days, even with rest EXP, at the higher levels its more of a chore than it used to be. Up until say 48 or so its very easy to solo quest everything, but from that point on a good 50% of it is group questing and on a server with a really bad horde pop, well...getting a group together for even ZF requires sometimes entire weeks of sitting in lfg screaming at the top of your lungs.

I actually ran some players through RFC with my mage cause I was fuckin bored and I felt sorry for them. Also id like to add the choice of level 50+ mage equip in AH sucks. If you dont have the money for blues or purples youre screwed. Thankfully I did, but I really dont have the patience to do the trade skills for money. I like playing at most 4-5 hours a week.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: cubicle47b on October 29, 2007, 11:20:30 AM
Making questing a better way of leveling is a good thing, at least when the quest objectives are slightly interesting.  The new starting areas + the Outlands are extremely well done.  It's just levels 20-60 that need to be revamped and with the changes coming in 2.3 they shouldn't be too bad.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on October 29, 2007, 11:29:30 AM
Well some of the older areas, like the hinterlands, are kinda screwed up. There are a handful of 'yellow to a 48 ish' mage quests over there that could never be accomplished solo. This quest isnt even marked group. AH yes its that lards lunch or whatever quest. Yeah even on green only a frost specc mage could handle 3 [edit] TROLLS that appear right next to them. Fire speccs depend on prep, and if I dont get that im a sad camper.

Im fine with quests, thats how I level so fast with a small amount of play time, but the level 50+ quests are a whole lot of group bullshit. Im not above groups, but there are literally no people to group with on my server. We're almost 3/1 alliance/horde ratio. :(
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: cubicle47b on October 29, 2007, 11:49:55 AM
I waited until 51-52 to do the eastern hinterlands quests, I think.  I agree, the 50's suck.  2.3 can't get here fast enough.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on October 29, 2007, 11:58:14 AM
2.3 is murdering mages a bit so I can wait :(
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Prost on October 29, 2007, 02:28:43 PM
at this point i'd rather just let someone else level, and then get split tapped.

i'm not down for leveling that much anymore, i've already made so many fucking 60s it's not even funny.  and now that the grind is bullshit, im upset, because i didnt want to run all over zones leveling, i just wanted to sit somewhere, get a level, and leave... but now that that's not efficient and i have thta knowledge... it sucks!

i'll have some level 50 kill level 43 elites for my 39 priest, lol.  i bet i get like 500 a kill, hahah.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on October 29, 2007, 02:31:17 PM
Mages are getting nerf murder patch 2.3.

Blizzard decided to balance for Arena and forget about everything else.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on October 29, 2007, 03:48:09 PM
cub what level are you? And does Drinky still play? Once my computer is fixed I'll speed lv up to you.

Leveling isn't hard for me actually. I hate grinding so instead I just do instances over and over again. Back when I was doing ZF it was pretty easy to get a group, and luckily I had good word-of-mouth in terms of my tanking. But now it takes FOREVER to find a group for a non-outlands instance. I do hellfire ramparts or BF at least once whenever I'm playing Goinio, and groups are easy to find. But fuck, when I look for a Scholo or Strat group there's no one in sight.

I'm kinda dreading getting Azelion to that level because I know it'll be hard to find groups for SM/ZF/etc. SM is still one of my absolute fav instances
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on October 29, 2007, 04:09:30 PM
Drinky doesnt play much. I dont either honestly. Im just fairly efficient at quests and monopolizing rest exp. I havent run a raid ever lol.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on October 29, 2007, 04:28:48 PM
I'm 9 levels away from 70 and already dreading raids. Everyone in the guild is so damn serious about it, and I'm just like meh, it's just a game duders. I'm not spending all weekend "training" for Khara or whatever it's called, like it's a midterm.

When I get to lv70 I'll most likely help lower level people do shit, which I already do. There's nothing like running 11 year olds through the dead mines lol
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on October 29, 2007, 04:39:49 PM
I have the time on Sundays, but its my one day of the week where im home for more than 8 hours, and im not sure I wanna spend that time in a raid with nerds on a chance I might get some decent equipment. Im on a low pop horde server too so PVP kinda = the same kinda waiting for something to happen
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on October 29, 2007, 04:54:09 PM
Sundays are for watching football, cooking pancakes, and half doing house work. Not raids  :violin

Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on October 29, 2007, 05:08:50 PM
Sundays are for sitting on my ass, thats for sure. My saturdays im out most of the day, ditto for weekdays.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: cubicle47b on October 29, 2007, 05:27:43 PM
My lock is still level 20.  I haven't played in a couple weeks because no one else was on or I had obligations to take care of.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on October 29, 2007, 07:26:31 PM
damn dude only 8 hours at home? how many hours do you work a day  :'(
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on October 29, 2007, 08:29:14 PM
Well I work 9-4/5 ish but the to and from commute, depending on the weather, can add 2 to as much as 4 hours to my total workday. Then on the weekends I am out of the house from 11-6/7 with friends or whatever. Sundays are my day of HOME. Of course chores have been slacking lately as work has been more demanding and im too lazy on Sunday to do chores cause I WANNA DO NOTHING AT HOME FOR ONE DAY OMG lol. So when I look at WoW as my way to spend Sunday I kinda groan and do something else.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on November 18, 2007, 11:42:11 PM
Woo, 57!

http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Muradin&n=Vynitha

Edit: argh, armory hasnt updated yet
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Van Cruncheon on November 18, 2007, 11:42:32 PM
GRATZ
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on November 19, 2007, 04:03:41 AM
Nice. In a couple levels you'll be able to fuck own my warrior  :-\
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on November 19, 2007, 06:43:49 PM
Lol, some mages are spreading rumors of an instant scorch, which sounds hilariously broken but even so everyone is all woo what if?!
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on November 20, 2007, 03:06:03 AM
Oh god the outlander gear set makes me look like a god damned Hobo Mage

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Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on November 20, 2007, 03:35:15 AM
One more level and you'll be in outlands.

Are you doing instances? I'm guessing LBRD, assuming you can find people to do it lol. Finding groups in outlands (Ramparts, Blood Furnace) is rather easy, but no one ever does LBRD. I never got far in that instance, and still have quests from there. Same with Scholo and Strat, although I've heard they're not worth the effort when compared to outlands instances
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: etiolate on November 20, 2007, 08:08:09 AM
The old 50s 60s dungeons are a fustercluck of design. Too big and too tedious. Dungeons within dungeons, backtracking and meandering paths. Just hell. The dungeon level design went to shit after ZF, but they got back to straight forward design in BC.  Even a 10 man like Kara is faster feeling than Blackrock.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on November 20, 2007, 04:14:12 PM
Yea LBRD is so massive that it's just confusing. You can fall off a bridge and wind up in the vicinity of a boss battle.  :-\

Ramparts is very straight forward, as is BF. In fact, BF is probably the fastest high level instance I've done. There are basically three boss battles, and only one is hard. Of course I'm referring to the sequence where you have to fight like 5 waves of orc mobs before facing a bigass one eyed squid straight out of DnD. I hate that entire battle.

The last boss is hella easy as long as the healing is going well; spells do a crap ton of damage to me, and having 4 of those spellcasters attacking me at the same time can hurt like hell

btw I liked ZF lol.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on November 21, 2007, 03:08:25 PM
58 boom
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: cubicle47b on November 21, 2007, 05:27:25 PM
The 70 dungeons kick ass, PD.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on November 23, 2007, 02:09:09 PM
60 yey, finally got dragons breath,  yey fire tree crits omg
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on November 23, 2007, 03:39:38 PM
wtf slow down red ranger!
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on November 23, 2007, 04:37:20 PM
Its hard with the new exp boosts from quests 30-60. Ill probably slow down again soon.

http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Muradin&n=Vynitha
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: etiolate on November 24, 2007, 09:34:49 PM
Wow, the belf starting area is so fast and quick for leveling. It almost makes up for being a hermaphrodite.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on November 24, 2007, 11:45:09 PM
The final quest for that area is also easier than the the draenei's lol
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Fragamemnon on November 26, 2007, 04:35:02 PM
owned the game for ten days, level 50 on my warrior already . I highly recommend the new quests in mudsprocket if you are in your late 30s, btw-definite change of pace.

The old endgame guild is still mostly intact minus some members that I hated anyway. I don't think I'll ever raid again but having friends around to do PvP and heroics with is nice.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on November 26, 2007, 04:38:06 PM
The experience changes in 2.3 are badass. My current character:

http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Muradin&n=Vynitha

I've never raided and i've had the game forever. PVP and 5 mans woo :)
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Fragamemnon on November 26, 2007, 04:43:44 PM
The experience changes in 2.3 are badass. My current character:

http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Muradin&n=Vynitha

I've never raided and i've had the game forever. PVP and 5 mans woo :)

Nice!

Yeah the new changes are really great, my wife is working in the late 50s with some characters and XP is a lot faster now.

MMOs are really great after daylight savings time ends. It's all dark out early and it makes long evening sessions of comping out easier to justify.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Van Cruncheon on November 26, 2007, 04:55:30 PM
gonna try this shadow priest pve build. thoughts? http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=bVMhzoZbZxMgtMtRhtVo
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Fragamemnon on November 26, 2007, 05:13:51 PM
gonna try this shadow priest pve build. thoughts? http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=bVMhzoZbZxMgtMtRhtVo


not bad, though I would try to work in 3/3 meditation somehow since shadow priests are such mana hogs. I can't really comment on anything more than that, since I was a prima donna holy priest back when I raided at 60.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on November 26, 2007, 06:30:53 PM
Eventually once your shadow stuff really kicks in post say level 20 or 30, ditch the wand spec. Between levels 30-55 the 'good wands' almost vanish entirely and dont get good till the Wizards Hands start showing up. I'd also back up the meditation comment by Frag. As a mage my talent tree still tries to minimize mana loss and maximize mana gain, and the wand spec is kinda :-/ once the good wands vanish and your mana situation is under control. Then again do priests get a good 'scorch' equivalent? Scorch is like the best mage spell evar!

Also as a mage the only thing I can comment on with any certainty is the Wand Spec and Mana issues, the shadow part of your build is a mystery to me.

Here's another possible build, better past 20-30 tho:

http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=bVMhzoZbZxMgtMtRhtVo

You really wanna take advantage of crits and stay out of the holy tree I think.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Van Cruncheon on November 26, 2007, 06:44:33 PM
what about blackout versus spirit tap
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on November 26, 2007, 06:52:36 PM
Blackout is good for PVP, it's like Impact that way. Stunning other players totally messes up their game. In PvE a LOT of people argue that talents like Impact/Blackout make it harder to pull since you can get a stun out of an attack leaving the mob in range of other mobs that could wander into the stunned mob and take it as a sign to attack.

PERSONALLY, I see it as DPS opportunity in PvE. People who are aware of aggro ranges can pick and choose their targets easily in every area save maybe Outland where mobs are packed so dense. In groups you wouldn't be the one pulling anyway. So as a mage I choose my targets carefully and impact totally works to my advantage. I suspect Blackout could equal the same results.

Spirit Tap is awesome tho, if I had to choose over the two I would always pick Spirit Tap. The build I posted doesnt leave a lot of room to move points around to accomodate both really. If you were group/raid focused you might shift things around to push for reduced thread and fewer crits.

As an aside:

As you get to higher levels and resilience comes into play, a concept I STILL dont fully understand, you may want to make slight adjustments to improve spell penetration or lowering target resists to your school of magic. I know my 10/48/3 build uses the 3 in ice for elemental precision for example. Once youre that far tho you won't need advice from a dumb fire mage :)
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Fragamemnon on November 26, 2007, 07:25:51 PM
what about blackout versus spirit tap

spirit tap is a godsend for solo/duoing pve. blackout is OK if you pvp a lot.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on November 26, 2007, 07:29:04 PM
Yeah, its pretty much impossible to do both anyway, and i'd aways take spirit tap over blackout. I think the biggest knock against blackout is that its at the same tier as spirit tap lol
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: etiolate on November 27, 2007, 02:00:56 AM
I knew some kickass shadow priests and I think they used spirit tap over blackout. At higher levels spill hit becomes important, to go along with what maf was saying.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on November 27, 2007, 02:10:12 AM
The good news is most outland equipment basically pushes players into the proper direction
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Candyflip on November 27, 2007, 02:03:59 PM
http://youreholdingme.blogspot.com/2007/10/raiding-shadow-priest-part-i-spell-hit.html

Obviously you're not raiding any time soon, but if nothing else this gives you a little more insight on some of the mechanics.

Season 3 today. Thank you Blizzard; my alt will now have the potential to hit 1900+ rating with ease even though he just hit 70! Free Gladiator is cool :D
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on November 27, 2007, 02:17:54 PM
I think christmas shit goes up today :D

I dunno what will ever top brewfest tho.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Candyflip on November 27, 2007, 03:21:39 PM
I just hope the servers go up as scheduled. It seems with every new content update they are always 2-3 hours behind when they say will be done.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on November 27, 2007, 03:22:25 PM
Im PST and im at work! wooo!
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Candyflip on November 27, 2007, 04:05:02 PM
"The maintenance is taking a bit longer than previously anticipated..."

1pm.

Big surprise.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on November 27, 2007, 04:11:07 PM
Still at work! wooo!
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: zeergoth on November 27, 2007, 07:26:45 PM
Does anyone use those free servers?
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on November 28, 2007, 11:06:56 AM
Haha wow, Essence of Undeath sells for stupid amounts and drops far more frequently than most elemental consumables. I've made 100 gold in a night, plus got my AD rep up and some more insignias!
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Fragamemnon on November 28, 2007, 02:03:36 PM
the "cool young dude" market on my server is incredible-decent level 66 blue bop tanking human tanking weapon? 50g. level 29-ish dagger? 300g.

I'm 52 now and have almost 400g just mining and skinning and selling the goods on the AH while leveling. Getting my premium mount right when I get 60 will be darn nice.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on November 28, 2007, 02:13:35 PM
Hehe. Ill have loads of money when i've got exhalted with Argent so I can get my purple trinket o ascendance with insignias.

I have no clue why people dont grind essence of undeath, it drops REAL often right next to the Argent Dawn base in EPL

Actually I think ill save my $$$ for the journeyman riding training and level 60 hawkstrider :D
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on November 28, 2007, 02:16:20 PM
are you guys all on the same server
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on November 28, 2007, 02:21:03 PM
Nah im on Muradin, the server with one of the worst Horde/Alliance ratios evar lol
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: zeergoth on November 28, 2007, 02:26:38 PM
Is there a server most EB plays on?
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Fragamemnon on November 28, 2007, 02:29:51 PM
are you guys all on the same server

I play on deathwing, where a lot of people from my old dark age of camelot server moved to when WoW came out.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on November 28, 2007, 02:32:16 PM
I see. I'm mostly on Black Dragonflight right now. I'm wanting to roll up a character to 70 now that the XP changes went in to 2.3.0, but I'm wondering if I should do that on my current server or elsewhere.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on November 28, 2007, 02:52:03 PM
Im a loner so dont join my server. I cant handle groups cause they are so damned inefficient at quests and leveling up. I only get a pug when I absolutely have to.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Fragamemnon on November 28, 2007, 03:05:50 PM
Im a loner so dont join my server. I cant handle groups cause they are so damned inefficient at quests and leveling up. I only get a pug when I absolutely have to.

Leveling up with groups is pretty much bad news bears unless you know the people you are with. Especially now with 2.3.0 introducing massive amounts of leveling boosts, especially in the 50-60 region. I haven't stepped into an instance on my warrior and won't do so until I get to outlands, where the quest rewards and especially rep gains from dungeons make the risk of grouping worth it (it helps that my wife plays healers and I have two good friends with almost limitless resources and tons of alts, so making a group isn't too hard for 65+ stuff).
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on November 30, 2007, 03:02:46 AM
62! Omg Molton Armor + Impact = cheesy stun fun! My fire crit chance is 23%, 26% for Scorch and Fireblast :-0 :-0 up to 293 bonus fire damage! Molton Armor can crit :-0 :-0
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on December 03, 2007, 01:29:32 PM
How's everyone doin? Im closing in on 63. Got my spell damage past 300 finally and have started seeing the +Spell Hit gear finally. Also a 30% chance to crit with Scorch/Fireblast almost :D

http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Muradin&n=Vynitha

Argent Dawn seriously saved my ass last night in Eastern Plagueland. I had gone to one of the towers recently capped by Alliance. I found a level 60 mage/priest (didnt stop to check) unflagged outside the tower. Couldn't be him, so I went in and found the hunter skulking around waiting for his flag to disappear.

He was only two levels under me so I didn't feel too bad about nuking him. After he died I left the tower while the mage/priest watched me leave. I felt pretty awesome, so I went to the Chapel to turn in a few SAVAGE FRONDS and BONE FRAGMENTS when I walk through the front door only to see a level 70 Alliance paladin glowing like the freaking sun. His back was to me so I figured he hadn't seen me. So I walked out backwards and as I turned to run around the corner and teleport the heck away, he comes running around and stuns me with his stupid paladin crap.

So im like ok, 8 levels difference, I can at least slow him down a little (im 62 now) but before I can attempt to put up a fight all of Argent Dawn descends on the paladin, each doing their knock down move in sequence knocking the level 70 paladin up the mountain side behind the chapel and eventually killing him.

Argent Dawn has my back!
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on December 06, 2007, 01:15:15 PM
63! woo! Crit chance is at 25% for fire spells and 31% for scorch and fireblast.

Doing some forum research on critchance vs spellhit vs mana/hp, crit chance may go down but with scorches criting at near 700 woooooo
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Candyflip on December 06, 2007, 01:45:38 PM
I got a 24 hour ban and a forced name change after paying to have my name changed to "Curbstomp" :-\ I guess Blizzard thought it was too severe. I thought it was a good name for a rogue.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on December 06, 2007, 01:53:26 PM
Curbstomp isnt as bad as some things ive seen. Oh blizzard.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on December 06, 2007, 03:46:12 PM
meh haven't been able to play for some time. i'm gonna call compusa AGAIN today
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on December 12, 2007, 11:14:01 AM
Woo, finally got my first piece of Warlord PVP armor. Arena 1 stuff is finally available for non arena folks so when I hit 70 ill start saving for that, but I figure ill go full warlord pvp armor and get the spell blade and tome of destruction before going to 69 where ill camp in AB an murder lowbies in normal gear lol.

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Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: calcifer on December 12, 2007, 07:26:59 PM
reading this thread makes me wanna renew my account and get my level 60 warrrior ready for death knight :-\
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on December 15, 2007, 11:48:25 AM
was up till 1am killing every alliance in sight but I finally got the robe. The hood I think is the only other 13700 honor cost piece of equipment, the rest are only 8400 honor. The dagger and the book are 13700 each so im in it for the long haul. Once I get all of it im back to leveling up till 69, then I start pvpin again to save up for Arena Season 1 gear.

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Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Candyflip on December 16, 2007, 06:55:47 AM
MAF, I did pretty much the same thing as you. After I ebayed my hunter I went and farmed the hell out of AV on my rogue in preperation for Season 3. In less than 3 weeks I completely upgraded my gear from a random assortment of 60 HWL stuff and blues/greens from quests to full Gladiator/Vindicator's. 10.6k hp and 420 resilience was never so easily reached. http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Dalaran&n=Optimopeach

Seeing 60 HWL gear on alts still makes me sad though. I can't believe less than 2 years ago I spent an entire summer obtaining that gear only to have Blizzard announce that it would be rewarded via honor not even 4 months later.

2.3.2's rogue changes are extremely disappointing. Apparently Blizzard feels Rogues should not be have a definitive PVP spec like every other class in arena. Yeah, a buffed Shadowstep will definitely make up for those nerfs  ::)

Basically when Blizzard originally buffed Hemorrhage a month or two ago with 2.3 practically every rogue respecced to some variation of an AR/Preperation build. Omgawd! Rogues were actually valuable in all 3 tiers of arena! Then, one month later Blizzard nerfs Hemorrhage, nerfs AR/Prep, and to make up for it "buffs" Shadowstep, Ambush, and Backstab.

Now rogues have the option of either toughing it out and staying AR/Prep despite it being downgraded or going back to combat or possibly mutilate. Granted, you'll see plenty of rogues claiming LOLstep is godly after they see OMG BIG NUMBERS BACKSTAB CRIT WOO (AND OMG U CAN LYKE TELEPORT THATZ SO KEWL!), but in reality it lacks any real sustained damage output in arenas in comparison to the original AR/Prep (with cooldowns mind you) or even deep combat.

It seems like they're trying to force all rogues into 41pt specs instead of hybrid specs. No clue why. Maybe they should take a look at every warrior that's specced 33/28 for arena. I'll probably end up going 11/43/7 next patch.

/rant (Few of you probably completely understand what I'm babbling about but I really needed to get this all out of my head somewhere and the WoW forums are filled with driveling morons, generally because any complaint no matter how constructive or sensible is met with 3 pages of replies of "qq cigarillo rogues are overpowered lolz")

Oh, and I have to say that playing a well-geared PVE warrior in PVP is ridiculously fun. http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Dalaran&n=Fumblenoob
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on December 16, 2007, 12:29:52 PM
Every rogue specc works in PVP tho, and Rogues do very well. Be a mage where Fire Spec in PVP is only effective when suicidal and Ice Spec while the best still doesnt help deal with the warlocks, hunters, rogues, resto druids...the list is long. I hear Deep Frost is good but the only way to dps in frost is to spam ice lance like a stupid mad fool. But then instead of fixing the other two mage trees they are gutting a TOP TIER spell from the Mage Ice tree (Ice Block) and giving it to every mage in an upcoming patch..and jesus christ dont get me started on the detect magic bullshit. Oh we cant figure out what mages are supposed to do with this spell even tho WE COULD HAVE ASKED THEM so we're going to give detect magic to everyone including rogues and warriors, go the fuck figure.

Mages are actually pretty borked right now as warlocks out dps them at range which was never how it was SUPPOSED TO BE. In fact blizzard went so far as to change the official Mage descript on the website to make us sound MORE like vending machine utility class which makes me AM CRY TOTAL.

The good news is most players in PVP suck, so even a fire spec mage like myself can dish out hurt and leave them wondering wtf went wrong.

On your points, I did notice back in the day on my rogue that subtlety = better kill em in the first few seconds and combat = warrior lite. Assassination always seemed like the 'Discipline' tree of the rogues. Never good deep but a great suppliment to Combat or Subtlety.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Candyflip on December 16, 2007, 06:49:04 PM
Eh. The problem is that ambush and backstab are negated by anyone with a decent amount of resilience, and especially now that everyone is running around in full Season 1 gear. That, and now Blizzard is making it relaint on us Shadowstepping for damage. Hemo next patch without AR up (a 5 minute cooldown that lasts for a whopping 30 seconds) does about as much damage as Shadowstep daggers, if not less. Before it was fine that AR/Prep was entirely cooldown dependant as Preperation fixed everything, but with Blizzard constantly removing certain spells that are affected by it, it's becoming more and more useless.

People say "but removing 1 cooldown from being affected by Prep won't change anything! it's just 1 spell rite lol?" However in arena it generally goes something like this. Keep one target CCd, blow your cooldowns and attempt to burst down the other; someone either vanishes, throws up a bubble, runs away in travel form, ice blocks, or chain fear/death coil. It's never the first AR that kills them.

Quote
S3 weapons, 1850AP

2.3.2 Damage Per 60 Energy (SS/Hemo extrapolated into 60 energy, base crit not considered):

41 Combat Sinister Strike: 1194
30 Sub Hemo (With Debuff) 1175
41 Sub Hemo (With Debuff): 1275
41 Sub Backstab: 1519 (1368 against 400 resilience as +30% crit chance is heavily penalized by -20% damage from 400 resilience)
Opportunity Mutilate (poisoned): 1470
DW Mutilate (poisoned): 1455

Shadowstep dagger is a lot of fun to play, the numbers are jaw dropping especially after you played AR/prep for so long. The problem? Your burst is going to rely on vanish -> shadowstep ambush. With premed->CS->EA, work into a full energy KS then vanish -> shadowstep ambush -> prep -> vanish -> shadowstep ambush again is massive damage. This is obviously a devastating combo for 1v1, but in arena? We all know how reliable vanish is (not!), and to make it worse, it is one of the few root breakers we have. A big part of AR/prep rogue's success is that we can do decent damage even if a mace warrior is all over us like Jared "Noktyn" Fogle over a box of donuts. Another big issue with shadowstep dagger is the hemo debuff itself is equivalent of 200AP for every physical DPS on your team, keeping this debuff up while having enough energy to backstab is almost impossible.

Also, when looking at the numbers above, keep in mind that any combat rogue has Combat Potency and (hopefully) Ruthlessness which both restore an astounding amount of energy.

Frost is all about the shatter combo http://youtube.com/watch?v=VJ9fy9DYRWI. It's amazing how fast my undergeared 2v2 partner can burst down people doing this, and a frost mage's endless amount of CC and survivability can be utilized in arena like no other spec. But if you're not big on arena it doesn't really matter. I stopped calling battlegrounds PVP after cross realms.

I will agree that the majority of people I encounter in battlegrounds are awful though. It's funny how much it has changed since so many more people have started playing.

Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on December 16, 2007, 07:02:46 PM
I can see your point, especially considering the mage situation. Mages are no longer top DPS, and all the people in PVP focus on stam and res, so killing shit is so goddamn hard even with my extra damage and penetration gear. Im really wondering how deathknights will bork PvP
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Candyflip on December 16, 2007, 07:05:37 PM
Ugh. If the Burning Crusade is any indicator, The Frozen Throne will completely rework the entire game again. I'm getting tired of that pattern. I think if anything that will be the reason I can eventually quit for good. Oh well. I'm still having fun with it lol. World of Warcrack indeed.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on December 16, 2007, 07:08:41 PM
Im still having fun playing my own way, but Blizzard never fixes classes really.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: etiolate on December 16, 2007, 11:53:51 PM
wow pvp is just all sorts of bork.

Battlegrounds is rather random and unreliable, but it is at least more allowing of different builds. Arena is full of the same classes/builds and very gear dependent.

I never understood why they had so much trouble fixing/balancing classes when the classes play pretty alike and have similar types of damage. They overcompensate too often I guess. The community is very self centred, always wanting their current character's class to be more and more powerful, the devs indulge this too much and the game has this yo-yo wackiness to game balance.

Speaking of pvp nuttiness, I was playing my 47 Shaman in WSG, where as enhancement build, I normally dominate. Instead our team kept getting murdered by one player. It was some Arms Warrior weilding some insane 2h sword, with enhancement shaman buddies by his side. They'd drop windfury totem, it would trigger on the Warrior's weapon and take out 2.2k hp in a couple seconds. He was basically going around two hitting poor folks.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on December 17, 2007, 12:09:19 AM
PVP has issues in WoW because blizzard listens to the Theorycraft people on the class specific forums.

I have mostly good games thanks to lots of practice, but the small moments where a warlock has me feared and smacked around by a felguard till I die is kinda unnerving
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on December 19, 2007, 02:09:44 AM
I laugh at people who buy game toys, but I kinda want this
http://www.figureprints.com/

Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on December 19, 2007, 02:42:12 AM
Thats pretty neat, even if I wouldnt bother
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on January 15, 2008, 04:31:34 PM
Bump +12 (hopefully this will remain the official WoW thread)

Alright the computer seems to be fixed (for now lol). The tech said it might have been a RAM issue, and possibly a PSU one. I'm going to head out and buy some more RAM and also start looking for a better PSU

After that I'll be able to sign on and work on Goinio and Azelion; what level are you Drinky? And Cubicle

Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on January 16, 2008, 01:54:15 AM
I forgot how much mithril I had, and was able to sell 60 bars for 42g. The server's economy has really picked up in my absence lol

And I got to lv62 in Zangarmarsh. Damn the quests are so tedious there.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on January 16, 2008, 02:13:19 AM
Outland is so easy to level up in lol Ive got Rest XP all the way to  70 on my 69, probably going to hit 70 this weekend and start wearing some of my S1 gear
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Van Cruncheon on January 16, 2008, 03:10:01 AM
i am a mere 23
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on January 16, 2008, 03:11:06 AM
yeah but you have a kid n shit and play like OTHER games once in a while :(

I AM doing pretty well in FF9 tho, to my credit
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on January 16, 2008, 03:12:51 AM
Yeah I should have rest XP for many levels ha. I could be lv65 by the end of this holiday weekend lol.

Drinky: my character on your server is lv17, not too far away
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on January 16, 2008, 03:13:42 AM
rest XP caps at like 2-3 levels worth I THINK
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on January 16, 2008, 05:16:30 PM
Now that I have 1.4G of RAM I was able to do some battlegrounds. I suck at PvP but I was only doin' it for the honor. I held my own with a bunch of lv70s and got a crap ton of honor. :bow
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: T234 on January 16, 2008, 05:51:40 PM
For some reason, I'm carrying around 128 Linen Cloth and fucking 76 Copper Ore and another 23 or so Copper Bars. I have no use for any of that. The copper sells but that linen is gonna gather dust.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on January 16, 2008, 07:30:32 PM
Yup I've got a crap ton of iron ore. I want to wait until the market for it is like 10g; right now it's at 7g
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on January 17, 2008, 02:58:39 AM
I figured I'd shake the rust off today and do an instance. I did ramparts in a 4 man group with a pretty chill lv70 mage - who happened to be 51 years old. Pretty damn badass - she was helping her kids through the instance and let a couple freeloaders tag along :bow

I got this  this (http://thottbot.com/i24094) which I already had, and a blue 1 hand mace, which I put on AH for 60g. Can't find a link to it dammit

Oh, I bought the advanced riding training, and I'm about to get mah epic :bow
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on January 17, 2008, 03:37:39 AM
I sold Axe of the Legion for like 150 gold.

PD: Earn 30 marks WSG,AB, and AV and you can ride the other stuff. You can also get an Alterac Ram with 60 AV marks iirc. PVP is the only REAL way to get the mounts for other races, as the reputation required to BUY an epic mount is much sadness. I currently have three epic mounts, but I wanna grab the other three for pvp.

I only have Swift Hawkstrider, Frostwolf Howler, and the Black War Raptor. I kept my old hawkstrider on the toolbar just cause lol. Plus you can get the Riders Crop to boost your mount speed by 10% and the mithril spurs to boost it a bit more ;)

Ill be 70 this weekend, then I can wear two pieces of my S1 pvp armor and start earning the rest of it and the war staff + gems and accessories. It'll be a while before its complete. Then ill be kinda 'finished' outfitting the character until S2 becomes available to normal PVPers.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: etiolate on January 18, 2008, 07:47:29 AM
Haha I bought PD's hammer and I want Axe of the Legion, too.  There isn't many Enhancement shaman weapons available in pre-70 outlands. There's just the creepjacker and then those two blue boe's. I might see if I can get the epic 60 pvp handaxe.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on January 18, 2008, 11:39:40 AM
I was lucky Axe o Legion even dropped, it had like a 0.01% chance where I found it haha. I hit 70 last night, halfway to my third S1 piece, and its AV WEEKEND this weekend which means Honor comin out my nose omggggggggggg
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on January 18, 2008, 03:15:32 PM
I did Ragefire Chasm with my alt yesterday. It was my first instance as a healer and I did well enough. The tanks kept me out of harm's way so I just sat back and healed.

And on Goinio I did the Slave Pens last night. We were able to get pretty far but around 4:15AM everyone was just too tired to go on. After we beat this gigantic crab boss we started running into elites that kept healing each other, and we couldn't beat them meh. I'm going to get to lv63 before going back there. More than half the group was lv62, so mobs of lv63 elites were tough.

Oh, and I downloaded a damage meter woot. It's hilarious how little damage I do  :lol
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: T234 on January 18, 2008, 03:25:38 PM
The only time I've ever done RFC is when a 70 dude in my guild took me through it. Holy shit at the loot compared with what I had at the time.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on January 18, 2008, 03:37:09 PM
I was lv17 so it was pretty easy. I want to do the dead mines. OMG I did it sooo many times when Goinio was around that level. :bow
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: T234 on January 18, 2008, 03:40:08 PM
I was at 13 and alone.

Where do you trigger the instance in alliance land PD?
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on January 18, 2008, 03:52:24 PM
http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Muradin&n=Vynitha

<3 my new staff, it will allow me to wait on the warstaff till I have all of S1 and some of the gladiator accessories
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on January 18, 2008, 08:17:44 PM
I was at 13 and alone.

Where do you trigger the instance in alliance land PD?

My alt is horde. The instance is in the heart of the orc main city, so I doubt alliance characters can do it lol
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: T234 on January 18, 2008, 09:16:58 PM
Oh. I'm surprised we let you in the cool peoples club.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on January 19, 2008, 02:45:05 AM
I just did BF with this badass Paladin holy shit. He was group leader and told me from the beginning to pull out my 2-hand and start DPSing cuz he was going to tank. Then he proceeded to take like 50-60% of all damage. Granted BF is pretty damn easy except for that one continuous boss sequence, but this paladin was kicking ass while making me feel shitty. I didn't have a damage meter the last time I did BF but I know I wasn't taking 50% of all damage. He let me tank during boss battles, and I did great - but damn I want to run BF again as tank just to see if I can own it like that dude. Paladins have this spell where all their holy attacks' threat is increased by 60%. Damn

And I got this
http://thottbot.com/i24389
 :o
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on January 19, 2008, 03:00:16 AM
AV WEEKEND

If you arent in AV u are missing out on OMG HONOR and PVP GEAR
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on January 19, 2008, 06:17:25 AM
 :lol

I will do it later today. I want to get to lv65 by Tuesday tho

Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on January 20, 2008, 06:25:02 AM
MAF was right, I got 1200+ honor in AV basically by following a bunch of lv70s around ha. I was pretty useless in terms of melee so I just used hamstring to slow down people

But the REAL event of tonight was me re-doing my talents. I'm still prot, but I made it SO much better for tanking, following a build I saw.
http://www.wowarmory.com/character-talents.xml?r=Ravenholdt&n=Goinio

DEVASTATE OMG. I can't wait to use that in an instance. Due to that and the 1H weapon specialization talent (damage increased by 10%) I was speeding through quests/grinding. Finally grinding it actually interesting to me as I try to increase my DPS. I was getting 160-180 DPS at times, which is great for me - in  defensive stance haha.

:bow
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on January 20, 2008, 01:30:51 PM
yup, make sure you take a look at available PVP gear, even some of the old first level epic stuff might have a few good pieces for you. Or you can just save up for the Season 1 stuff at 70. Since you dont do much PVP you might wanna just save up for Season 1. I got my third S1 piece last night, its awesome. Gonna AV while I watch movies today lulz.

Tanks actually do really WELL in AV but not until 69-70 when NPCs dont have the level advantage. Everyone loves a tank in AV, especially Alliance since they have Galv and Drek. You can kill Balinda on horde side with one DPS and a healer lol. Tho it takes forever and someone can make you wipe real easy.

Im thinking about going 17/41 instead of 10/48/3. I want improved counter spell :(
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on January 20, 2008, 05:01:42 PM
Yup we killed Drek last night; luckily I had the quest. 318 honor for that
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on January 20, 2008, 05:11:10 PM
AV is a lot of fun, its kinda broken right now in favor of Alliance, but oh well, ill just switch to AB when AV Weekend is over
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on January 20, 2008, 05:59:52 PM
I'll try to get 2000 more honor later tonight

In the meantime, Zangarmarsh quests. I just got this:
http://thottbot.com/i31734
:bow

Many of the quests reward you with crap I can't use or repetitive items (like similar 2H weapons). But the XP is good, and I want to continue getting used to my new macros/keybinding scheme before taking on Slave Pens
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on January 20, 2008, 06:38:30 PM
outland quest rewards are :-0 by and large, I might go back and finish some outland quests for gold

Got my robe today, gonna wait on the helm for a few days, not sure I can run many more AV trips before brains ooooze outta my ears. Plus I have a lot of movies to watch:

(http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb165/mrangryface_bucket/s1.jpg)
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: etiolate on January 20, 2008, 07:57:58 PM
AV is a lot of fun, its kinda broken right now in favor of Alliance, but oh well, ill just switch to AB when AV Weekend is over

huh? how? The rule changes benefit Horde since turtling at DB does little now. If horde defends IB then Ally is fuxored.  I've been winning this weekend mostly due to bad horde play. If Ally gets snowfall then iceblood easily, then I know we'll win, but if the horde side is smart enough to use iceblood then its a slow death with no tower caps for me. I should have grinded AV on my lock or druid for another s1 armor, but I wanted the epic axe for my shaman.

And despite the fact that I have killer weapons and mean DPS, I keep getting stuck healing in Ramparts and Blood Furnace because there is nothing but retadins who can't heal or tank!
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on January 20, 2008, 08:28:29 PM
IB isnt actually a choke point, you can bypass it pretty easy with a RH zerg, or with a RH ninja, either works well. I've bypassed IBGY plenty when we've lost it to alliance. Alliance argue that IBGY is a killer choke point, but its not the best Horde chokepoint, that award goes to the point between the two final horde towers at the keep. RH Defense drives alliance pretty batty.

The whole RH zerg thing has turned horde wins to like 30% on my battlegroup, its a nightmare, cause if we D RH we get accused of turtling and alliance threatens boycott. Add to that the design of the Horde keep is pretty ineffective if there isn't a D of 10 players in the keep as most of the NPCs can be bypassed. Its not like SPAS where the towers can hit you UP to the flag and the NPCs there rival raid bosses in HP. Plus balinda and vann got their hp buffed and that slows us down a lot now.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on January 20, 2008, 11:49:14 PM
Just finished BF with etoilet's sexy alt

(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e86/PhoenixDark1/bloodfurnace.jpg)

:)
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: etiolate on January 21, 2008, 03:05:32 AM
Yes, I named my Shaman after a porn star. I had 1200 double WF crits in that run and PD managed to not lose aggro much.

As for AV, IB is a better starting point than SH. You can do the RH ninja, but I've seen good horde defensive walls from IB to Galv, which cuts off that bypass. The thing is, SH is pretty easy to take so if you defend IB and make Ally rez and have SH, then they are way back at Stormpike and trapped inside their own fortress.  I did do a FW tower ninja last night for a win. It was rather close, like 46-47, capped a FW tower and held onto it.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on January 21, 2008, 03:25:42 AM
Yea I remember inspecting your gear and thinking "oh shit he's going to take a lot of arrgo". You have two badass weapons heh

Only things about BF that are hard: the mobs that drop bombs and that second boss fight. The bombs SHOULD be easy, but people just step on them, die, and wonder why they got killed. Sigh. Then that second boss sequence is hard as balls, but we got through it without trouble. I was shocked my damage taken % increased during that. The last time I tanked that sequence I had problems. My new spec and keybinding have really helped
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on January 21, 2008, 03:42:47 AM
RH rush is a major problem right now. Its not that you CANT defend against it, it's that Alliance screams Boycott the minute you start thinking about it because a D heavy RH game = LONG and Alliance loses their 70% chance of winning and its back to whether or not they can outplay Horde in a corner, and in most cases they cant because the entrance to the inner keep IS the best chokepoint on the map.

An interesting thread on the situation. AV weekend REALLY brought the issue to the front:

http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=4032678737&sid=1&pageNo=1
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on January 23, 2008, 02:27:56 AM
Got to lv64 earlier today, then did Underbog. We couldn't beat the last boss, but holy shit @ the stuff I snagged

http://thottbot.com/i24461

and

http://thottbot.com/i24456

 :o

Now I need to get the proper gems in there. I want to really focus on stamina and defensive ratings with Goinio.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: etiolate on January 23, 2008, 03:00:36 AM
RH rush is a major problem right now. Its not that you CANT defend against it, it's that Alliance screams Boycott the minute you start thinking about it because a D heavy RH game = LONG and Alliance loses their 70% chance of winning and its back to whether or not they can outplay Horde in a corner, and in most cases they cant because the entrance to the inner keep IS the best chokepoint on the map.

An interesting thread on the situation. AV weekend REALLY brought the issue to the front:

http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=4032678737&sid=1&pageNo=1

Eh it is just a zerg both ways now, who can kill the other boss first. I don't understand why Horde gave up on IBGY. I can't compare battlegroups because I can not account for player quality differences and population balances, but set up wise, IBGY should give Horde an advantage.  It was working till suddenly they stopped defending it and agreed to zerg both ways. These days its a rush to the other base, then someone starts up and as soon as one side hear's their cheif's battlecry they start in and its a burn down competition.

I would put an elite at Stonehearth and an elite in Frostwolf tower/gy area.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on January 23, 2008, 03:04:24 AM
Horde cant win a footrace. We had a 50/50 chance before the bal/van HP buff, now its like a 30-35% chance in a pure Dual O situation. There's honestly too many elite NPCs next to SPAS. Go to FWRH and count how many elites you actually fight. Between using the hill by the outer keep wall to jump the wall, and the fact that horde inner keep towers only hit you part way to the FWRH where SP North/South bunkers can hit you almost the entire way up to the flag and the AS is literally surrounded with raid boss HP elites.

We can't win in a race, we have to stop too often to fight elite NPCs and Alliance mid/end boss got HP buffs. People bitch cause Balinda is easy, and yes, she is 'easy', but time spent > difficulty in a footrace situation. Vann's HP boost isnt as huge a deal because by end game we have everyone there ANYWAY, but I have lost more AVs this past weekend with Vann at 20% health to a Drek death than the entire last few months i've been in AV.

Its kinda silly how borked crap is. If Horde D's HEAVY, which gives a good chance of a win, Alliance Boycotts. Vengeance and a few other battlegroups are RARE in their 3 Minute queue time. Until recently most Alliance boycotted the other battlegroups. The new HP patch and the effective threat of a Boycott against the Stormpike D (aka the stupidly named "Scorched Earth" strategy) has left Horde in a really stupid position.

I dont BLAME Alliance for rushing RH, that's fine, but getting mad cause Horde wants to create a proper defense against the strat is the kind of crying that lead to the boycott that lead to the stupid HP buffs "hotfix". "Hotfix" is short for 'didnt really think about it but we tossed the ol pigskin around on a friday afternoon'
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: etiolate on January 23, 2008, 03:52:14 AM
The proper defense is defending IBGY, which brings up a map imbalance. Ally boycotted because they were getting little honor. Even when Ally wins, I still see Horde with hundreds of bonus honor. That is not what happens when Ally gets shut out at IB. Even in the fastest Ally recent win, SH bunker and Belinda or Icewing is taken for points. It can be a shutout if IB is defended by Horde.

And I have seen Horde win a footrace. Really, Horde were winning a high percentage on my server until they stopped defending Iceblood.  It is initially Blizzard's fault for instituting rule changes to AV without realizing how they hurt one side more than the other, and that one side was ally.  Before the rule changes, ally seemed to turtle a lot because it was their strength.  Turtle, cap backwards and push Horde back. This made long, long games so Blizzard changed things but it made the Ally chokepoint a death trap for ally, not being able to get out in a tower cap war. Now both sides zerg out of some unspoken agreement and it's about burndown speed.   On my server, the Horde I see are pretty well geared so it's not dominated by alliance. On my Warlock I think I went 0-2 in AVs, and on my druid 4-1. I mainly attribute the difference to my Druids gear being better and how much an effect healers have in AV. Overall though it was 4-3, which is better than it was the previous weeks but on par for what it was before the AV rule changes.

My problems with pvp are resil out the wazoo and mace stuns proc'ing all over the place.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Eric P on January 23, 2008, 09:35:50 AM
i did some heavy wow playing this weekend and did Sunken Temple and Zul Far twice (the first time i didn't have the Hunter specific quest queued up).

the first Temple run was amazingly good.  the second run was an absolute nightmare.  my cat was used to off tank and most of time was spent trying to keep our healer alive because he would heal when it wasn't nessecary and draw all aggro to him causing pure pain and lots of death because our tank couldn't listen to directions.

i'm in winterspring now and am currently the highest level i've reached playing wow since beta.  i always got bored in the 30s or 40s and would roll new characters

http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Lothar&n=Fantomas
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on January 23, 2008, 12:44:19 PM
blah blah IBGY WAH WAH is a load of crap, youre like every other alliance on the PVP forum. What battlegroup are you on anyway?
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on January 23, 2008, 01:13:24 PM
Damn Zangarmarsh is so big, and there are sooo many goodies. I want to head to Nagrand soon (looks awesome) but I want a few more of the armor rewards given from Zangarmarsh quests
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on January 23, 2008, 01:55:12 PM
I love Zang, but Nagrand is easily my favorite, its my permanent Hearth
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on January 23, 2008, 02:42:38 PM
I saw pics from the area earlier today and omg it reminds me of Arathi Highlands, which was my favorite zone for many levels. :bow
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on January 23, 2008, 03:21:03 PM
i did some heavy wow playing this weekend and did Sunken Temple and Zul Far twice (the first time i didn't have the Hunter specific quest queued up).

the first Temple run was amazingly good.  the second run was an absolute nightmare.  my cat was used to off tank and most of time was spent trying to keep our healer alive because he would heal when it wasn't nessecary and draw all aggro to him causing pure pain and lots of death because our tank couldn't listen to directions.

i'm in winterspring now and am currently the highest level i've reached playing wow since beta.  i always got bored in the 30s or 40s and would roll new characters

http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Lothar&n=Fantomas

Sunken Temple has that annoying dragon right? I dont really run instances, I PVP 80% of the time. Just keep pressing on cause Outland areas are A LOT of fun and worth hitting 60 for.


Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Eric P on January 23, 2008, 03:47:14 PM
i'm totally a pve guy though.  i like working with people instead of against them

edit: i'm trying to hit 60 before feb.  i don't really play that hardcore
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on January 23, 2008, 03:54:13 PM
You work with people in PVP too. No one wins battlegrounds alone, or most of the Arenas save 1v1, or World PVP, or even town raiding :)
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Eric P on January 23, 2008, 03:57:08 PM
i have never done battlegrounds or anything similar.

mostly because the people who talk about it a lot on gaf come across like elitist dicks
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Fragamemnon on January 23, 2008, 04:11:07 PM
You're not really missing too much, WoW PvP is awful and has been ever since the game came out. The game isn't really built for it, and it's popular despite its terrible design because the alternative choices in the genre are even worse at this point.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on January 23, 2008, 04:14:56 PM
Its as good as it gets, tho I think of all the battlegrounds AB is the best. Im interested to see WoW's take on siege equipment with the upcoming expansion.

WSG = Too many resto-druid flag stand offs. Oh fun. A Resto-Druid with high resilience. Yeah im gonna punch into that easily. Not to mention the FC isnt alone. Im pretty sure the Alliance has the same reaction when we have OUR resto druid cap the flag :p A very good argument that resilience is dumb.

AV = HA HA! BROKEN! Blizzard only recently attempted to balance it because almost every Alliance pop on almost every battlegroup ran a boycott making queue times stretch into the HOURS. That being said the switch from oldschool days long AV to newschool 30 minute long AV was never complete. Things like reinforcements from mines, the ice lord quests, and getting other troops going via quests move as slow as they needed to for oldschool AV, but were never adjusted to be useful in newschool AV.

Wonder why everyone is doing a footrace? mebbey thats all they can do, Blizzard.

EotS = Removes the flag standoff from WSG and adds elements from AB. I havent played this one enough to pass judgement but its not extremely well liked since the entire game hinges on whats going on in the middle.

AB = Probably the most balanced map of them all, and probably the one with the fewest weird exploits like that ledge behind the flag in WSG Alliance base where a FC can hide behind the bush out of attack range of pretty much everyone. Most people dont know that one so its not a huge issue, but its a huge issue when someone does, cause no one knows how to get to him. Why is there even a ledge? Goddamnit Blizzard.

Both AB and WSG, and I suspect EotS suffer from the borked queue system which will not hesitate to pit 4 players against 10, on either side. HAW HAW nice one B.

WorldPVP = Blows if youre on the side with the low population.

In any case, I still enjoy it much more than waiting for raids and listening to people ask me for water and food. I will also say this: Nothing makes you learn your character class more than having to fight your character class at the hands of another player. Learning to live with the idea that there is always someone better is another thing.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Candyflip on January 23, 2008, 04:43:14 PM
You're not really missing too much, WoW PvP is awful and has been ever since the game came out. The game isn't really built for it, and it's popular despite its terrible design because the alternative choices in the genre are even worse at this point.
Sounds like someone is stuck at 1600.

I will agree that arena's mechanics definitely do need some tweaking. Certain team make-ups are ludicrously imbalanced; the influx of PMR teams in 3s since patch 2.3 is just one example of this. It is definitely difficult to balance such a high amount of classes with so many things to factor. Arena is extremely situational and it would take some serious analysis to completely balance it out.

That's not to say I am not happy with it though. Imbalanced team makeups are just part of the game. If you want to advance you will take advantage of everything you can. There is no way to argue that the only reason people are scraping 2400+ rating is "WARRIOR DRUID IS OP BAWWW" or whatever. The people at the top are there because they're the best. Yes, some group configurations are naturally more powerful on average than others. Arena is so situational though this really isn't as big of a problem as people make it out to be. This becomes apparent when you get really up there and you play the same team 4-6 times in a row. Some groups are more popular than others but if it were impossible to get Gladiator without submitting to the cookie cutter formations then there wouldn't be teams such as Rogue/Rogue in 2s or even a quad healer team in 5s. Less traditional play style? Yes. Impossible to win? No.

Sorry for the rant. Hope at least parts of that made sense.

Oh, and as far as battlegrounds go, I've finally learned to not even waste my time. There are too many casual gamers in there simply to cash in on the welfare epics (like my dad lol) to expect any real high level of competition as seen in arena. After having a meltdown in BGchat in 7 subsequent Arathi Basins where we were 4 based every single time I realized that it isn't worth it for me to invest so much energy into something that is ultimately pointless. I can sit there and make a list detailing why someone is bad for the entire length of the game but I doubt any of it even sinks in. For awhile it felt like I was paying 15 dollars a month for the sole purpose of raising my blood pressure by berating every single player not up to my standards.

Yeah, I'm an elitist. Can't help it. With so many people playing this game now battlegrounds are a shell of what they used to be. I can't remember the last time I had an entire team of genuinely good players. Real pvp is still alive in arena though, even if it is riddled with flaws in class mechanics.

I'm the same way in PVE though. I sincerely loathe those "raiding" guilds that are still stuck in SSC. OMGAWD HYDROSS IS SOOOOOOOOO HARD. I can't believe I can take a game so serious. I shit you not I am getting pissed off just sitting here thinking of all the terrible people who play this game.

Blizzard should have separate servers where players of the same level of skill can play so no one gets in anyone's way. Then the elitists don't bitch and moan about the casuals and the casuals can go level up there 10th 70 decked out in greens.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on January 23, 2008, 05:00:42 PM
I'd go Arena but real teams wont take me until I go Ice Spec which is bullshit. I mean yeah, Battlegrounds are rough, but thats cause we have cross realm pugs. Its a gamble. I kinda learn to find the good players in a battleground and we try to make it work. Someone has to represent horde in battlegrounds, and im not gonna let it be a bunch of distinguished mentally-challenged fellows.

Truth be told im a casual and i've got S1 crap, so I dunno..
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Candyflip on January 23, 2008, 05:19:01 PM
Pssh, there's no shame in having welfare epics. In reality the only big upgrades on gear from season to season are the weapons. The difference from s1->s2 in stats is otherwise negligible. The same goes for s2->s3 although slightly less due to the increased armor and the ignore armor.

Yeah, unfortunately forcing classes into specs is one way Blizzard tries to keep arena balanced. They are more able to smooth things out if they know which specs are going to be played at the top end of the competition. Frost is infinitely more utilized in arena than POM/Pyro, especially now that everyone is walking around with upwards of 10k HP and 300 resilience with the s1 so easily accessible. Same with SL/SL being extremely advantageous to, say, destruction.

Again though, that's not to say that you can't reach a high rating with those specs. It will just be much harder and you end up depending a lot on your team set up if you are speccing the "weaker" variation for arena.

It seems like Blizzard likes to switch things up every year or so. And not just a few changes here or there. Looking at how PVP now contrasts to pre-BC, or even PVE (in terms of speccing and playstyle) you can see that they purposely shift what is the more favored to keep players supplied with as much of that fresh content feeling as they can. Ambush/backstab rogues are almost nonexistent in arena now, right along with fire mages, destro locks, and so on.

Hell, if anyone had told me when I was doing BWL that the most viable raiding spec for most hunters in BC would be (by a mile) Beast Mastery I would have loled at them and told them to stop trolling and get back to EQ.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Candyflip on January 23, 2008, 05:25:11 PM
And I just got my Blood Elf hunter back that had been scammed from me earlier this month. WOO! I fucking love french canadians.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Van Cruncheon on January 23, 2008, 05:36:37 PM
ew, raiding. epic gear from raiding is the REAL welfare epics, since most raiders are carebeared through most instances by the 10% of their guilds that are actually good at the game.

raiding is for no-life chumpos. it's for the persistent, not the skilled.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: cubicle47b on January 23, 2008, 05:47:22 PM
ew, raiding. epic gear from raiding is the REAL welfare epics, since most raiders are carebeared through most instances by the 10% of their guilds that are actually good at the game.

raiding is for no-life chumpos. it's for the persistent, not the skilled.

Raiding is for no-lifers, sure, but raids aren't Molten Core anymore.  One idiot will completely fuck you on a boss like Hydross and the level of organization and skill required to kill a boss like Vashj is substantial.  You can epic someone out on farm content without worry but it's absurdly hard to make progress without the vast majority of your raid being competent or better past a certain point.  And at least the guilds I've been in take measures to make sure that people are participating in progression fights before they're handed epics from anything but the 10 mans (or 20 mans pre-BC).

My guild fell apart on Vashj in June-July.  We lost some people and were on a medium population server so we couldn't replace them easily.  We'd end up with 2-3 players every night who were okay but didn't understand the fight well.  They'd be a little slow on DPS on the elementals, not kill a tainted in time, fuck up a core toss, get feared by a strider, or any number of things and the attempt would fall apart.  We had one night 2 weeks in where everyone there knew the fight and were good players who worked together well.  We consistent got to phase 3 had her down under 30%.  We needed another night with the same group to perfect the execution but just couldn't get it and the minor fuckups added up, people got tired, and that was that.  Up until that point we were neck and neck with the other top guild on the server who has just now completed Black Temple.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Candyflip on January 23, 2008, 06:56:06 PM
Vashj was a surprisingly complex fight for how simple the rest of SSC was. My old guild was also stuck on her for a solid month and a half, and then Kael for another month or two. That soured me on raiding. Same story as you. Great 15-20 players but there are always those few that drag everyone down. I ended up ebaying a week before they downed Winterchill. They're now on Archimonde.

But yes. PVE has grown in depth as much as PVP, if not more. Some of the BT and Hyjal encounters are brilliantly designed. Pre-BC raiding was very close though; many players still say Naxx > all. It's a shame that only such a small fraction of people that play the game get to even see those.

With that said, I would honestly give my left foot to understand how some people are able to consistently pull Hydross over the line. Every. Single. Week. How can you even dress yourself if you can't keep yourself from hitting any buttons for a period of 3 seconds? Everyone has done it once (me included, although I wasn't entirely sober) but christ.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: cubicle47b on January 23, 2008, 07:33:44 PM
I never pulled Hydross but I was a healer (not that some of our healers didn't manage to do it).  We had more than one embarrassing night where we pulled Hydross 9 times and some idiot fucked up and left a DoT on too late or one of the healers fell asleep and let their tank die every fucking time.  It felt like a fight made just to piss off people with new members.

I raided pre-BC on my lock and burned out right after we killed Princess Huhuran in AQ40 so I missed out on Naxx.  I'll get to play it when Wrath of the Lich King comes out but it won't be the same.  The 4 Horsemen had the best guilds in the world working on them for 2 months before finally killing them and without difficulty adjustments.  That was the height of skill based WoW.  It's really too bad that MC was the first raid.  I thought Karazhan was a great introductory raid instance.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on January 23, 2008, 07:50:39 PM
My new guild is all PVE and im the only mage, I told them I can only raid on Saturday nights, so maybe ill get the best of both worlds :(

Sides...I need my stupid food tomes
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on January 23, 2008, 07:53:22 PM
Pssh, there's no shame in having welfare epics. In reality the only big upgrades on gear from season to season are the weapons. The difference from s1->s2 in stats is otherwise negligible. The same goes for s2->s3 although slightly less due to the increased armor and the ignore armor.

Yeah, unfortunately forcing classes into specs is one way Blizzard tries to keep arena balanced. They are more able to smooth things out if they know which specs are going to be played at the top end of the competition. Frost is infinitely more utilized in arena than POM/Pyro, especially now that everyone is walking around with upwards of 10k HP and 300 resilience with the s1 so easily accessible. Same with SL/SL being extremely advantageous to, say, destruction.

Again though, that's not to say that you can't reach a high rating with those specs. It will just be much harder and you end up depending a lot on your team set up if you are speccing the "weaker" variation for arena.

It seems like Blizzard likes to switch things up every year or so. And not just a few changes here or there. Looking at how PVP now contrasts to pre-BC, or even PVE (in terms of speccing and playstyle) you can see that they purposely shift what is the more favored to keep players supplied with as much of that fresh content feeling as they can. Ambush/backstab rogues are almost nonexistent in arena now, right along with fire mages, destro locks, and so on.

Hell, if anyone had told me when I was doing BWL that the most viable raiding spec for most hunters in BC would be (by a mile) Beast Mastery I would have loled at them and told them to stop trolling and get back to EQ.


I will say I am happy with the mage buffs last patch. While ice block in PVP is generally only used to stall until your friends show up or remove a bunch of negative conditions, the mana gem buff was OMG.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: etiolate on January 24, 2008, 03:43:26 AM
Frag is right about wow pvp. I don't play WoW for pvp, I play it for the whole basket. I PvP, Raid, dungeon, pve, solo, professions and whatever. I normally mix it up, because not one part of it is strong enough to stand on its own. If you want this sort of game with pvp then you play GW. I just think Blizz doesn't get it, or at least the people in charge don't. Other games have more classes and better balance, so it is not the classes issue. It is simply that WoW was designed as a pve game first and that pve style doesn't fit into pvp. Crowd control skills required for pve become cheap in pvp. Stuff like bubbles, fear, stealth and such just wonk up pvp.


And Nagrand rules. Wait till you get the blue quest rewards from Nagrand PD. Best designed part of BC.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on January 24, 2008, 12:22:25 PM
(http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb165/mrangryface_bucket/vyn3.jpg)

Yeah! Got a cloak that looks cool and got my helm. Taking the rest of the week off from PVP to earn some GOLDZ and help some lowbie guild people with oddball jobs. Bubbles are fine in PVP, paladins are the least of my concern these days. Do you realize as a belf mage I have at LEAST 3 ways to shut a paladin up, and thats not counting the 10% chance to shut him up with impact. Do you also realize pets see rogues through stealth if they've been sent on a rogue that just vanished? Did you realize a dot will keep a rogue out of stealth?

There's LOTS of counters to stuff people WAH WAH about but it demands that they become better players. YES the characters arent completely balanced, but you learn to deal with it and work with other players to pull wins out. Its never a one person show and the good games are never easy.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on January 24, 2008, 01:37:49 PM
I think the best argument to level against PVP is the whole resilience thing. Its a BC addition that really dulled the potential of burst dps classes (rogues/fire mages), and it has done a fairly good job shutting out raid players from high level PVP.

However, most WAH WAH Raiders dont realize that the PVP epics aren't that good for raids, so its not like we're gonna run out and get picked over them in a Raid situation. I honestly dont see a problem with PVP epics, I think Raid types just put a lot of stock into the program management job that they pay 15 dollars a month to do.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on January 24, 2008, 01:50:11 PM
lol do people hit on your character MAF? I did BF last night with this female mage and our DUMBASS hunter wouldn't stop making suspect comments to her.

There's nothing worse than a hunter who - no matter how many times you tell him you're the puller - randomly shoots mobs before the healers/casters have enough mana to do anything. Jeez what a jerk
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on January 24, 2008, 01:53:53 PM
First thing I do when I join a guild is tell them im a dude, if someone hits on me I tell em im a dude.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Eric P on January 24, 2008, 01:54:51 PM
lol do people hit on your character MAF? I did BF last night with this female mage and our DUMBASS hunter wouldn't stop making suspect comments to her.

i just assume that everyone is a guy

Quote
There's nothing worse than a hunter who - no matter how many times you tell him you're the puller - randomly shoots mobs before the healers/casters have enough mana to do anything. Jeez what a jerk

bad party members suck.  it's worse then they think that "surviving" equals a good pull as opposed to merely adaquet.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on January 24, 2008, 01:58:21 PM
The only classes I've had problems with in groups are hunters and rogues. Lots of times hunters want their pets to tank, but they'll pull mobs with their gunz - so the mob rushes at them. Usually it's not hard to steal the arrgo but this becomes annoying as the instance gets harder. Just a few hits will kill a hunter. Then you've got the rogues...sigh.

HAY GUYS I JUST CRIT FOR 3000 LOL LET ME SAP THIS BOSS BRB OH SHIT
*Fancypants has died*
WTF I KNO I'M INVISIBLE BUT CAN I GET HEALZ JEEZ N00B
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on January 24, 2008, 02:02:30 PM
Oh god, last night was classic. So im helping a warlock in my guild with Uldamann or whatever, and we pick up a few other players along the way, a Paladin and Rogue belf. I dont recall much of the place so the three pointed in directions and I carried them through it. Anyway...

On the way out the belf paladin got in a scuff with one of the pvp mobs in the instance, and I helped her out and we both had our flags on as we ran out. So we're heading to the surface and I see this 54 dwarf waddle by and im like LOL. But then I think, the flagged Paladin is only 44. The paladin had dropped behind a ways so I had doubled back, and I found them both staring at each other. I rounded the corner and he turned at me, and just stood there. We all just stood there. Then he turned tail and ran haha.

I kinda wish he attacked the Paladin, I knew he wouldnt have had enough time to do anything damaging before I nuked him into oblivion.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on January 24, 2008, 02:07:35 PM
lol I love doing that. It's so easy to find lv30-40 horde in Arathi Highlands, harassing low level alliance. I just ride up to the alliance players in trouble, and the horde runs away. And if they're fool enough to play I just beat the shit out of them, but I don't enjoy it! I'm rather peaceful with the horde - hell if I see a horde player in trouble against some PvE mob I always help.

Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on January 24, 2008, 02:10:33 PM
Oh i'll help alliance out when theyre knee deep in it, they usually dont appreciate it but oh well. No one picks on the Horde while im around tho, thats bulllshiiit

Most hunters in PVP dont know how to play their character aside from sic pet, fire gun. As a mage all you have to do is blink at them, frost nova, ice lance till nova wears off, fireblast, then hop on top of them in front and behind spamming ice lance till frost nova cools down then pop that again then hop in their face spamming ice lance some more while working in fireblast/DB/BlastWave.

Usually nova/lance/blast is enough, I save DB for when they get frisky or it looks like theyre trying to set an ice trap.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Eric P on January 24, 2008, 02:11:54 PM
hell if I see a horde player in trouble against some PvE mob I always help.

ditto

but i rarely get the complement returned
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on January 24, 2008, 02:15:53 PM
Yeah well most Alliance players are like 12 or something. rite LOL *WoW forums tm*
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Eric P on January 24, 2008, 02:57:30 PM
Yeah well most Alliance players are like 12 or something. rite LOL *WoW forums tm*
it seems that way

but i'd rather have the optimistic friendly 12 year olds instead of the social misfits which seem to hog the horde.

"i am undead because i am METAL!"

but, yeah, the general populace on both sides reminds me why i don't leave the house much

Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on January 24, 2008, 03:12:47 PM
yeah I used to respect undead players a lot more than I do now :(
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: T234 on January 24, 2008, 03:19:04 PM
yeah I used to respect undead players a lot more than I do now :(
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Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on January 24, 2008, 03:29:33 PM
ok ok T234 is still cool
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: T234 on January 24, 2008, 03:52:48 PM
 8) 8)
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on January 25, 2008, 02:36:50 PM
Last night I did Underbog again, and failed. The funny thing is it's not THAT hard. The mobs are easy to cc for me, and the bosses are straight forward if people LISTEN. But people don't LISTEN.

"Ok guys when that guy sprouts mushrooms run away from them ok?"
"k"
"sure"
"don't tell me what to do lol"

If I had fucking cloth leather I'd be doing anything and everything to stay out of harm's way. To make matters worse our healer was too busy typing when he was supposed to be healing. And checking the damage meter wtf

"hay goinio how do i move the damage meter i forgot whut to type i want to see my healz"
*Goinio has died*
"omg woops"


I did BF for the last time 30min ago; I've done it enough and can't really get anymore stuff there, unless I pray for miracles lol. Our healer (priest) was lucky because every boss dropped a blue cloth item. Dude got a whole new wardrobe lol. I wish I was that lucky  :'(
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: T234 on January 25, 2008, 02:44:35 PM
Cloth stuff is lawl worthy to a rogue. Can mages and priests and shit not equip even so much as leather armor? If so, that would explain a lotta things to me.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on January 25, 2008, 02:46:28 PM
It's amazing how weak that stuff is. Just a couple mob hits on a mage can take my "damage taken meter" from like 55% to 50% lol. Usually I ask them to stay back so I can cc
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: T234 on January 25, 2008, 02:52:22 PM
The sad part is, even the gray Mail shit I pick up has almost the same stats as my nice, guildie-made leather stuff :(
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on January 25, 2008, 03:09:17 PM
The trouble is people invite fire mages to instances but dont know how to hold aggro. DPS = Aggro. There arent enough talents in the mage tree to mitigate this reality. Im generally tanking Balinda in AV, but she's a caster and I have a few spells to deal with that, but against melee best I can hope is Impact proccing off of Molton Armor and having my Ice Block ready.

Im usually in the top 3 DPS wise in battlegrounds. Used to be mages were on top, but Warlocks n Hunters have taken that spot from even fire mages :p
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on January 25, 2008, 03:19:38 PM
I haven't had trouble keeping arrgo from mages in some time; most mages are smart enough not to nuke trash mobs before I get good arrgo. Pallies and hunters cause more problems imo. I don't worry if a pally is taking some damage - usually they have the defense and armor to take damage. But hunters who want to pull mobs are a danger. Today in BF the hunter kept shooting mobs the second after I pulled them with my gun. So the mobs would run right at him, but I'd be able to take the arrgo by throwing down a thunderclap/devastate. We ended the instance with him having taken 9% of the damage, and his pet took around 11% which annoyed me but oh well.

My goal is take 55%+ damage and ensure the healer takes as little as possible
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on January 25, 2008, 03:22:46 PM
Well a good fire mage will conserve mana with spell dmg and crit buffed scorch. Scorch crits for like 1100 at 70, and im at the low end of additional spell dmg.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Eric P on January 25, 2008, 05:00:07 PM
i didn't have much time last night so i dicked around with a human pally just to see how hard it was.  low dps output so pve is just so damn time consuming.  i think it would be better if i paired off with someone to act as tank/healer to their dps, but i'll be damned if i'm going to snag a pug to play with at low levels so i think it'll act as my bank

along with my new storage char Bankula.  Bankenstein was sadly taken
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on January 25, 2008, 05:06:18 PM
I know a 70 Paladin that even after 70 levels still hates his dps lol. Im starting a druid AGAIN, hopefully it will stick this time.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: cubicle47b on January 25, 2008, 05:22:53 PM
Paladin leveling is great until you hit level 40.  I flew through levels until that point thanks to good DPS (good to your low-30s, then http://www.wowhead.com/?item=870 pulled me to the early 40s where things got bad) and great survivability.  After that you need a partner or you'll start to hate the character.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on January 25, 2008, 08:48:32 PM
I got to lv65 today. I'll be doing Underbog/Slave Pens as much as possible to get some better gear. And omg Nagrand has some pretty rewarding quests. I got 10g for a kill quest lol :bow

Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Eric P on January 25, 2008, 11:48:18 PM
Paladin leveling is great until you hit level 40.  I flew through levels until that point thanks to good DPS (good to your low-30s, then http://www.wowhead.com/?item=870 pulled me to the early 40s where things got bad) and great survivability.  After that you need a partner or you'll start to hate the character.

that's what happened to me with War right out of beta

that shit was ROUGH back then
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: etiolate on January 26, 2008, 04:27:38 AM
I think most every class hits a wall of suck at 40, except Shaman and Shadow priest which hits pwn city at that point.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on January 26, 2008, 04:52:03 AM
I thought lv40 was cool. After the awesome-ness of SM you get to do more challenging stuff like Uldaman, Mara, and ZF. Those were fun times
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on January 26, 2008, 01:24:09 PM
Mages rock at 40, thats when dps goes WOOOO.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: cubicle47b on January 26, 2008, 01:24:42 PM
I think most every class hits a wall of suck at 40, except Shaman and Shadow priest which hits pwn city at that point.

No class hits a wall like paladins do at 40 unless you decide to level as a resto druid / protection warrior.  I was lucky to level with my roommate who was a feral druid since they work really well with ret paladins.    It did make me incredibly envious, though.  At level 35 our DPS was about equal, by 50 he killed more than twice as fast and did it with a spec that allowed him to tank or dps as well or better than any class.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Eric P on January 26, 2008, 10:11:32 PM
so to tank you should play a druid, essentially?
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on January 26, 2008, 10:36:23 PM
I think the warriors prot spec got fixed and druids got all mad again. I BELIEVE prot spec warrior is viable in raids again. For a time druids were oped in terms of threat generation
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: cubicle47b on January 27, 2008, 02:47:04 AM
If you want to tank while leveling druids do it best.  Otherwise, for endgame raiding, protection warriors win out in almost every situation.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Candyflip on January 27, 2008, 03:57:30 PM
I love farmers. The engrish is so cute.

(http://img116.imageshack.us/img116/7254/rentbuyaccaimconvovu9.th.png) (http://img116.imageshack.us/img116/7254/rentbuyaccaimconvovu9.png)

(http://img122.imageshack.us/img122/9554/rentbuyaccaimconvo2om8.th.png) (http://img122.imageshack.us/img122/9554/rentbuyaccaimconvo2om8.png)

Talk about free money. If I started renting 3 more (which I will eventually) then I'll be pulling in $280 a week for doing absolutely nothing.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on January 27, 2008, 03:59:50 PM
I dunno whats worse, people in town asking me to level them, or people in my guild asking me to level them. I dont mind helping with quests, but im not gonna power level anyone.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Eric P on January 27, 2008, 05:46:41 PM
i don't mind twinking someone through a dungeon or two but powerleveling? ugh
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: T234 on January 27, 2008, 05:52:41 PM
All my guildies have done for me is run me through RFC, do a few quests with me, and make the occasional piece of gear. We've got a master everything but Engineer.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: etiolate on January 27, 2008, 07:27:21 PM
so to tank you should play a druid, essentially?

Druids, Blizzard and endgame don't mix well.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Candyflip on January 27, 2008, 08:31:43 PM
so to tank you should play a druid, essentially?

Druids, Blizzard and endgame don't mix well.
The 4 piece for resto t6 is proof of that. It's like Blizzard is taunting them.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on January 28, 2008, 04:00:36 PM
I ran someone through ZF a couple days ago - a lv63 priest on my friends list asked me to help him run some guildies, and considering he's a good healer I figured having him in my debt would be beneficial down the road.

If it's late and I'm bored, I'll help people do dead mines just because I looove that place.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on January 28, 2008, 04:35:08 PM
http://www.wowarmory.com/item-info.xml?i=18827

omg etoilet  :o

I need that, but 12,000+ honor? That might take forever
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: T234 on January 28, 2008, 04:38:53 PM
WHOAH
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on January 28, 2008, 04:55:57 PM
12,000? Try 27,000 for the staff I want. Halfway there! Once you start working for the PVP 'welfare epics' youre spending a lot of time PVPing as total honor costs are in the hundreds of thousands. Marks are the least of your concern.

http://www.wowarmory.com/item-info.xml?i=24557

Id have to Arena to get the better versions of this staff. I need to bug my guild for spellpower chants and get some accessories and pvp gems
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on January 28, 2008, 05:03:03 PM
Clearly I don't have the patience or fortitude to get this stuff.  :lol

I suck at PvP but I did WSG for the first time last week. It's fun!
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on January 28, 2008, 05:08:08 PM
Basically the way earning PVP gear works is like this:

Work for the marks in AB/WSG first. Once you have the marks needed for the gear you want, totally whore out to the GRIND experience that is AV. AV marks flow like water since youre there all the time for honor, and you'll soon have 100 with a bunch in the mail. That's when you buy the 60 mark mount, battle standard, tabard to try and mitigate the feeling of futility and shame.

On weekends you want to scope out what the BG of the weekend is. IF its WSG just pretend there isnt a BG of the weekend, cause games last too long for the extra 82 honor you get per match. AB weekends aren't a bad idea, and a good way to deal with the time between AB matches is to AV until and AB match goes. You get the honor up to that point in the game as you leave the match and go to AB iirc and this maximizes your honor gain on an AB weekend. However if your AV queues a lot, it could be best to just AV no matter what weekend it is. AV weekends are the weekends you wanna be around for tho.

HOWEVER, there are battlegroups where AV is fuk busted for Alliance and you guys are leaving with 0-188 honor per LONG game, at which point you may just wanna queue AB. Once you hit 70 you will want to do EotS over AB as the games move a lot faster win or lose and there is more potential honor gain via tower caps.

So in short:

If AV on your battlegroup has crap queue times OR Alliance is being sent home with 0-188 honor, get yer marks in WSG and AV, then queue AB.

If AV on your battlegroup isn't crap, get your marks from AB/WSG, then focus on AV. On an AB battleground weekend, queue AV until an AB pops and you accept the join. On AV weekend, queue AV!

Resto-Druid stand-offs + resilience has killed WSG in terms of honor gain, avoid it at all costs. Get yer marks and get out.

When you hit 70, get your marks from AB/WSG, then focus on AV. On an EotS or AB battleground weekend, queue AV until an AB pops and you accept the join. On AV weekend, queue AV!


Keep in mind battleground weekends only provide an extra 82 honor, but also keep in mind this is rewarded even if you lose. EotS marks are used for level 70 accessories currently.

There's also World PVP in Outlands but I havent dabbled with that much SINCE horde pop on my server sucks so getting a group together is fuck hard, but the equipment rewards are pretty nice. Also keep in mind that WoW can over-estimate your gained honor per day by a full 1/8th sometimes if you pvp a lot in one day, so if youre cutting it close for gear, play a few more matches to make sure you'll get the honor. Also note that honor roll-over happens at 3am server time.

Edit: Come to think of it, over-estimated honor game may be the result of my theory that you still get earned honor from an AV match if you leave halfway through, ill have to ask around. I've been doing things that way for a while tho.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: etiolate on January 28, 2008, 09:05:47 PM
People just need to learn how to kill resto druids. Granted, I am just at 168 resil, but thats still a bit of resil and really all it takes is a stun locking rogue, or a mace stun MS warrior, or a fearing walrock with felhunter, or a counterspell before a nuke, or a shaman and I am screwed. Since Druid is such a small part of the population, I just don't think people ever learned how they work and are having trouble adjusting. I get some time of being uber defensive if I throw up some hots, have natural perfection pro and throw on barkskin and BEAR IT, but sweet jebus, thats a lot to throw up. It's like fighting a Holy Pally, it takes awhile but they can't do anything but survive a bit.

In fact, I fought a premade in WSG that had a resto druid on my warlock last night and we beat them 3-1. I just used fel hunter and banished him when he got cocky enough to go tree. That was a crappy premade though.

Sorta like what MAF said, I just sign up for AV + whatever the daily quest is for or the weekend is for. Also, AV is where you can get away with not having arena gear the most easily, since you  fight the NPCs as much as other players and the group is so large you can hide amongst the masses.

http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Ravenholdt&n=Emptybox

That is most of my pvp gear, but it took a long ass time to acquire.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on January 28, 2008, 09:17:00 PM
Yeah, when youre in AV and you DONT have PVP gear, go with O, but dont expect heals till youre at least close to 70. If you are geared well you can take your pick and still have fun.

In a one on one situation I could take out a resto druid, but its never JUST that, and there is where the problem is. PUGs are a mess to start with, and organizing a focused strike is even harder. You wouldnt BELIEVE how many times I saw people attacking a warrior constantly getting healed by a DRUID IN THE BUSHES. KILL THE HEALER I screamed. Oi.

Anyway yeah, anything can be killed, but PVP is an extremely unpredictable beast. One minute im beating a resto druid with silences and burst dps, the next I have a line of 4 alliance hunter focus firing on me while their pets charge in. In any other situation the odds might be in MY favor, but i tell you, as a fire spec I am prepared to die in BGs, but I do as much damage as possible before I go.

Paladins are actually easier to kill than resto-druids now btw. The sheep immune issues with druids drives me nuts and the healing spells are a lot harder to counter spell. Part of the reason I went 17/41/3 was to get improved counter-spell to deal with druid regeneration :(
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: etiolate on January 28, 2008, 09:33:47 PM
How does counterspell work? I am getting counterspelled when not even casting lately. I always thought the target had to be casting for it to work.

And yeah, there is no accounting for dumb teammates. I was on my resto druid for wsg weekend, figuring I could work it easily, but the first BG I go into I had 2-3 horde who stuck like glue to me. A warlock, a hunter and one or two others always on me, even when I wasn't near the flag or the flag carrier. They stood right by the paths leading into horde base waiting for me. I was like 45 yards away from the hunter, so I stealthed and his pet found me. I would try to escort our FC and the followed me, or if I went to their FC, boom they were on me. I figured if I am attracting this much attention, surely my team can take advantage of their numbers right? Nope, couldn't run a flag or return one once. I had 3 or 4 people stalking me the whole game and  my team still just withered.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on January 28, 2008, 09:52:37 PM
Improved Counterspell = 100% chance of 4 seconds silence. Basically it removes my NEED to nail an opponent on a spell cast. HOWEVER, I still get the 8 second silence if I hit them during a spell cast for that particular school of magic.

Basically it took a lot of guess work out of dealing with druids, but I still wanna try and hit the cast period against anyone. Druids just have a lot of really fast regenerations spells n crap, unlike the paladin. Hell, paladins are so predictable you know when their about to bubble.

As a belf mage I have mana torrent, dragons breath, improved counter spell, and the chance of impact from fire spells to jolt an opponent out of a spell cast. Mages are a REAL pain if they focus on their utility spells in group combat. Generally tho I focus on tabbing through opponents and burst dpsing away the last of their life.

Unfortunately we are still really squishy. I was helping some guild guy through BRD the other night (which sucks as fire spec) and he lol'ed at my mana pool, so I had to explain the difference between PVP gear and Raid gear. Its like wtf dude, sorry im not raid equipped dont usually do this crap.

truth be told, I have no clue what to do when I face an alliance mage and warlock at the same time. Definitely a mages worst situation.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on January 29, 2008, 02:07:28 AM
Haha, oh jeeze. I got bored of PVP BGs so I took a chance and wandered out into BARRENS and found a fight. 3 70s and a 46. The 70s were bouncing around between xroads and camp t. They had a warlock, priest, and paladin. A nightmare for a mage alone so I recruited a priest and paladin of my own, along with a 64 warrior from my guild. We beat them down at Camp T, which isnt much to brag about as the guards aggroed. By the end of the fight I was chasing a imp counterspelled priest away from Camp T, a crit fireblast knocking him down. Then our group spread out and hunted them down as they resurrected. Eventually we chased them to xroads where they peeled off to ratchet to catch the boat out of the barrens. We converged on ratchet and met them at the docs hanging by the guards. We didnt have the warrior with us but we attacked them and the guards. They died again, and when the boat showed we watched them limp onto the boat, at which point we waved them off and screamed BURR till they were out of sight.

Oh the lolz. Too bad you get crap honor for that stuff, but its fun.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Invertibrate on January 29, 2008, 04:25:15 PM
Hey all reading this thread got me to sign up and post since I am generally a lurker.

PD grats on leveling through with a Prot spec war.  That is difficult to do, I know with mine I leveled to 70 dps then switched over to Prot.  Though I am currently farming some pvp gear in dps spec again.  Wanted to comment on your Prot build.  Here is a build I use for 5 mans and Kara level stuff. 

http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=Li0cZVZbEtoIMzcxst

The biggest thing I see in your build is Iron Will, Anger Management and Deep Wounds are wasted points.  For Iron Will, most dungeon stuff, particularly bosses you cannot resist their stuns or charms.  On trash those effects are either very temporary or will generally not target you.  Anger Managements gains are very minimal in the full scheme of things and to spend the extra points to get to it are not worth it.  Deep wounds is a nice dot for dps, but your crit chance is so low because you don't have cruelty that the benefits are not really that great.

Get cruelty.  Nothing generates aggro like crits from shield slam and devastate.  Imp def stance is good really in raid situations, but for 5 man stuff it is really not all that useful.  I like the rage cost reductions to sunder armor/devastate as well since deviate will be in your rotation of abilities used.  The rage cost reduction to heroic strike is nice as well since it is a good way to spend rage if you have plenty, generates higher threat and is not on the global cooldown.

If you decide to go down the PVP route I would recommend not doing it as prot spec.  It can be done, and you will be hard to kill, but it starts to get frustrating.  My current spec is fun for PVP if you have a good 2 hander.
http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Kilrogg&n=Lemmywinks

I will say though you will have all the gear you could ever want if you stay prot.  If you are a solid tank you will have opportunities to group and do 5 mans, heroics and 10 man stuff with few issues ever getting a group. 

If you are tanking a dungeon you should be the group leader.  You set the kill order and the cc targets and you initiate all actions.  Initial aggro from a pull is key to you keeping it.  If a hunter is not pulling to you with misdirect, but rather just pulling, throw that fool out of your group and get a replacement.  All that leads to is frustration and multiple wipes.


Last advice I have to give is this.  Get rid of the damage meter, it will just make you crazy.  Measure your success as a tank on people not getting smoked, not on the amount of dmg you or they take.  If you want to run a meter run a Threat meter like Omen.  This will show not only if you are generating threat fast enough and sustaining it, but if people are pulling it off you by playing like fools.  Your job is to generate aggro their job is to not pull it.  My main is a rogue and the biggest thing any dps class has to learn is how to control their aggro so they don't needlessly die.  The only people you need to worry about with aggro should be healers on multiple pulls.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: T234 on January 29, 2008, 04:48:50 PM
Lvl 19 Rogue advice plz.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: cubicle47b on January 29, 2008, 04:57:57 PM
Lvl 19 Rogue advice plz.

Sinister strike the mob a bunch of times.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on January 29, 2008, 05:15:39 PM
Hey all reading this thread got me to sign up and post since I am generally a lurker.

PD grats on leveling through with a Prot spec war.  That is difficult to do, I know with mine I leveled to 70 dps then switched over to Prot.  Though I am currently farming some pvp gear in dps spec again.  Wanted to comment on your Prot build.  Here is a build I use for 5 mans and Kara level stuff. 

http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=Li0cZVZbEtoIMzcxst

The biggest thing I see in your build is Iron Will, Anger Management and Deep Wounds are wasted points.  For Iron Will, most dungeon stuff, particularly bosses you cannot resist their stuns or charms.  On trash those effects are either very temporary or will generally not target you.  Anger Managements gains are very minimal in the full scheme of things and to spend the extra points to get to it are not worth it.  Deep wounds is a nice dot for dps, but your crit chance is so low because you don't have cruelty that the benefits are not really that great.

Get cruelty.  Nothing generates aggro like crits from shield slam and devastate.  Imp def stance is good really in raid situations, but for 5 man stuff it is really not all that useful.  I like the rage cost reductions to sunder armor/devastate as well since deviate will be in your rotation of abilities used.  The rage cost reduction to heroic strike is nice as well since it is a good way to spend rage if you have plenty, generates higher threat and is not on the global cooldown.

If you decide to go down the PVP route I would recommend not doing it as prot spec.  It can be done, and you will be hard to kill, but it starts to get frustrating.  My current spec is fun for PVP if you have a good 2 hander.
http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Kilrogg&n=Lemmywinks

I will say though you will have all the gear you could ever want if you stay prot.  If you are a solid tank you will have opportunities to group and do 5 mans, heroics and 10 man stuff with few issues ever getting a group. 

If you are tanking a dungeon you should be the group leader.  You set the kill order and the cc targets and you initiate all actions.  Initial aggro from a pull is key to you keeping it.  If a hunter is not pulling to you with misdirect, but rather just pulling, throw that fool out of your group and get a replacement.  All that leads to is frustration and multiple wipes.


Last advice I have to give is this.  Get rid of the damage meter, it will just make you crazy.  Measure your success as a tank on people not getting smoked, not on the amount of dmg you or they take.  If you want to run a meter run a Threat meter like Omen.  This will show not only if you are generating threat fast enough and sustaining it, but if people are pulling it off you by playing like fools.  Your job is to generate aggro their job is to not pull it.  My main is a rogue and the biggest thing any dps class has to learn is how to control their aggro so they don't needlessly die.  The only people you need to worry about with aggro should be healers on multiple pulls.

Yeah, generally damage meters are only useful for WoW Forum people who like to play at theory-craft
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on January 29, 2008, 06:08:27 PM
Hey all reading this thread got me to sign up and post since I am generally a lurker.

PD grats on leveling through with a Prot spec war.  That is difficult to do, I know with mine I leveled to 70 dps then switched over to Prot.  Though I am currently farming some pvp gear in dps spec again.  Wanted to comment on your Prot build.  Here is a build I use for 5 mans and Kara level stuff. 

http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=Li0cZVZbEtoIMzcxst

The biggest thing I see in your build is Iron Will, Anger Management and Deep Wounds are wasted points.  For Iron Will, most dungeon stuff, particularly bosses you cannot resist their stuns or charms.  On trash those effects are either very temporary or will generally not target you.  Anger Managements gains are very minimal in the full scheme of things and to spend the extra points to get to it are not worth it.  Deep wounds is a nice dot for dps, but your crit chance is so low because you don't have cruelty that the benefits are not really that great.

Get cruelty.  Nothing generates aggro like crits from shield slam and devastate.  Imp def stance is good really in raid situations, but for 5 man stuff it is really not all that useful.  I like the rage cost reductions to sunder armor/devastate as well since deviate will be in your rotation of abilities used.  The rage cost reduction to heroic strike is nice as well since it is a good way to spend rage if you have plenty, generates higher threat and is not on the global cooldown.

If you decide to go down the PVP route I would recommend not doing it as prot spec.  It can be done, and you will be hard to kill, but it starts to get frustrating.  My current spec is fun for PVP if you have a good 2 hander.
http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Kilrogg&n=Lemmywinks

I will say though you will have all the gear you could ever want if you stay prot.  If you are a solid tank you will have opportunities to group and do 5 mans, heroics and 10 man stuff with few issues ever getting a group. 

If you are tanking a dungeon you should be the group leader.  You set the kill order and the cc targets and you initiate all actions.  Initial aggro from a pull is key to you keeping it.  If a hunter is not pulling to you with misdirect, but rather just pulling, throw that fool out of your group and get a replacement.  All that leads to is frustration and multiple wipes.


Last advice I have to give is this.  Get rid of the damage meter, it will just make you crazy.  Measure your success as a tank on people not getting smoked, not on the amount of dmg you or they take.  If you want to run a meter run a Threat meter like Omen.  This will show not only if you are generating threat fast enough and sustaining it, but if people are pulling it off you by playing like fools.  Your job is to generate aggro their job is to not pull it.  My main is a rogue and the biggest thing any dps class has to learn is how to control their aggro so they don't needlessly die.  The only people you need to worry about with aggro should be healers on multiple pulls.

Thank you for the advice, and welcome to the forums :bow

After I switched my 43 prot talents around I couldn't really think of anything to put the rest in, so I decided to put 12 points in arms and get Anger Management; I'm going to definitely get rid of it now thanks to your advice. I didn't really see an improvement in my rage generation with it. With Iron Will I've been noticing that I'm still getting stunned by enemies, so those points could go somewhere else.

I'm gonna add those extra points to Improved Sunder; I didn't know that effected Devastate as well.

I think I'll keep Goinio prot spec. I'm not particularly interested in PVP that much, and I'd like to tank Kara level stuff. I'll use an alt for PVP.

Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Invertibrate on January 29, 2008, 06:09:44 PM
Lvl 19 Rogue advice plz.

Are you twinking a 19 rogue, or just getting started?

Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on January 29, 2008, 06:11:27 PM
I went Arms with my warrior till 39 then made a mage and havent touched him since. Arms spec is a lot of fun for PVP and solo :D
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Invertibrate on January 29, 2008, 06:20:54 PM
I went Arms with my warrior till 39 then made a mage and havent touched him since. Arms spec is a lot of fun for PVP and solo :D

Yeah that is my alt so I use him to pvp as well when I feel like getting into it.  Arms warriors are just mean in pvp, and if I have a healer I am damn near unkillable, especially against the alt level 70s wearing greens that are often in battlegrounds farming their welfare epics.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on January 29, 2008, 06:43:12 PM
As a prot warrior what do you often do when first engaging a mob? I run in and throw down a thunderclap, then start Devastating each mob with the help of a cool tab macro. And at the same time I constantly shield block, setting up Revenge for use.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: T234 on January 29, 2008, 07:04:03 PM
Lvl 19 Rogue advice plz.

Are you twinking a 19 rogue, or just getting started?


What do you mean? This is my main. I'm in a guild that gives me free greens and enchants and shit on occasion.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Invertibrate on January 29, 2008, 07:48:46 PM
As a prot warrior what do you often do when first engaging a mob? I run in and throw down a thunderclap, then start Devastating each mob with the help of a cool tab macro. And at the same time I constantly shield block, setting up Revenge for use.

Shield slam is your highest aggro generator, but you can also preload a heroic strike on a mob so that lands for the first hit as well.  If you are doing a multi-pull thunder-clap, Demoralizing shout and cleave work well to grab packs.  Usually the biggest thing to make sure of is that you can keep the target being killed on you, so save shield slam for that target, while at the same time ensuring the other mobs stay on you and don't go after the healer.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Invertibrate on January 29, 2008, 08:00:19 PM
Lvl 19 Rogue advice plz.

Are you twinking a 19 rogue, or just getting started?


What do you mean? This is my main. I'm in a guild that gives me free greens and enchants and shit on occasion.

A cool young dude is basically a character that gets to a level, say like 19 but never goes further to play with in battleground for PVP.  These character have the best gear, enchant and other things available at that level to destroy people in battlegrounds. 

The thing with rogues there is no right or wrong way to use them while leveling.  All 3 trees have their uses and all 3 have talents at the top you will want to have.  Most of it is based on what kind of weapons you will be using, but setting up a rogue to a specific weapon while leveling is kinda meh since you essentially should be using the best mace, sword or dagger you have available to you.  The subtlety tree is nice if you solo a lot to be able to stealth around and pick off mobs.  Pure dps comes out of the combat tree, especially if using maces and swords.  Assassination is good use of poisons and such, which I believe you get at 20.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: T234 on January 29, 2008, 08:08:13 PM
I'm going full-bore combat spec. at 70-80, I'm going to go assassination spec so as to try to meet my goal:

KILLING THE KING OF THE GNOMES
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on January 29, 2008, 09:33:07 PM
Arms warriors have some MEAN DPS and can still stance dance to zerk for fear management, I was never good at stance dancing tho, so whutver, but yeah get a good fast two hander on an arms warrior and OMG LOOK OUT. I know jack about laate game warrior tho as I never got mine past 40. The only class I know two shits about is mage.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Candyflip on January 29, 2008, 10:43:10 PM
MAF is your mage 70 yet? Someone transfer a char to the PTR and duel me :(
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on January 31, 2008, 05:46:42 PM
http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Muradin&n=Vynitha

Finally got my pendant. My spell power is meh, luckily fire mage dps is naturally high. Now that I have enough stam to lose (thanks to pvp gear) im going to start earning the gold for spell power chants to get that number up. I also still need the bracers, belt, boots, rings, staff, and the improved insignia before I can really take a break and feel remotely satisfied with where my character is ;)

I WAS going to use the honor for a staff but its been a long week and I had to have something NOW and I wanted to replace the amulete of unstable power anyway since it gave crit/spelldamage boost but no stat boosts. The belt is probably the next thing to go as it is teh sad.

PD: I also saw youre still using the carrot, save up 115-150 gold and get a riding crop at AH
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Invertibrate on January 31, 2008, 05:59:15 PM
He can't use the riding crop till 69.  Though when you do get to 69 definitely get one.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on January 31, 2008, 06:21:17 PM
Do they stack? I've always been curious. Its also amazing how few people have them in AB/AV/EotS. I mean you can still swap it out for insignia once you get to where youre going.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Invertibrate on January 31, 2008, 09:52:32 PM
Do they stack? I've always been curious. Its also amazing how few people have them in AB/AV/EotS. I mean you can still swap it out for insignia once you get to where youre going.

No they don't stack.  They basically made it as an all in one replacement for the previous solution which was the carrot stacked with the glove enchant and mithril spurs.  It also does not stack with Pally crusader aura.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: etiolate on January 31, 2008, 10:53:44 PM
I don't sell/make that many riding crops as a LW. They don't apply to flying mounts and people rather have their fear trinket and a trinket for their class spec.

Currently I need Arcatraz for my lock to get kara keyed, and a primal nether so I can make the awesome engineering goggles. My Shaman needs to run mana tombs for the Creepjacker and Shaman helm.  I completely bypassed the dungeon warlock set, due to its lack of crit. I have two of the arena 1 pieces and have used blues with stam/int/crit/dmg instead. Plus, the 2 set bonus for the dungeon set is pretty useless for me.

I got one Mana Tombs group on my Shaman today, in which I had to heal. It made me wish I had some resto talents invested. I couldn't keep the tank up through the first boss, even when I non-stopped spammed lesser healing wave, which was hitting 1k-1.6k every 1.5 seconds.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on January 31, 2008, 10:56:48 PM
etio: its important to have riding crop for the first few minutes of AB/EOTS and sometimes even AV. Trinkets cant be swapped. Those not using riding crop in these bgs are kinda dumbs.

Also do you know what raid instance drops the tomes to train mage top level foods? I need to get my guild to drag me through it
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Invertibrate on February 01, 2008, 03:56:37 PM
The riding crop works with flying mounts.  If people do not own and use one they are rather foolish.

Yeah the higher level food books are dropped, but you can usually get them out of the AH or just use the refreshment table since I believe it is the same level as the food books, and makes the folks in your BG like you.  Not sure it has any cost if done during the warm up period of the BG as well.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on February 01, 2008, 04:12:48 PM
Pretty sure the only cost during prep time in bg is the reagent, which is a WHOLE 26 SILVAR NO NOES! I seriously need those tomes, ill have to get some gold and camp AH for them. Im BUYING my own food and water right now lol.

Im thinking about going from 17/41/3 to 33/28 but I dunno yet. Im kinda stunned with wowwiki's point allocation in the 17/41 scenario. They throw the extra points not into elemental precision, but arcane fortitude (worthless talent) and talents that ONLY affect arcane spells when 17/41 IS still considered a deep fire spec. So their recommended 17/41 is actually a bizzare 18/43 build. They ignore the arcane missle talent which is probably FAR more useful to a deep fire spec than something than increases crit chance of arcane explosion, which is only used by deep fire at its lowest level for sloppy stealth detection.

IN short wowwiki needs to look over their talent builds.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: T234 on February 01, 2008, 04:16:52 PM
Pretty sure the only cost during prep time in bg is the reagent, which is a WHOLE 26 SILVAR NO NOES! I seriously need those tomes, ill have to get some gold and camp AH for them. Im BUYING my own food and water right now lol.
Is there really any use for food? I use bandages and free potions from mah guildies to heal.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on February 01, 2008, 04:18:08 PM
Bandages require a high first aid level, which I havent bothered with, and potions for my level are $$$. Food is cheaper.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Invertibrate on February 01, 2008, 09:01:37 PM
Bandages require a high first aid level, which I havent bothered with, and potions for my level are $$$. Food is cheaper.

Not leveling first aid is a horrible mistake to make.  I did not do it on one of my toons and I am in the hell of going back and farming lower level cloth.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on February 01, 2008, 10:53:03 PM
blah, so lazy
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Candyflip on February 03, 2008, 02:30:40 AM
Sold two accounts in two days. $150 profit. I LOVE WOW OMG

Oh, and I've spent the last 4 days playing a Gladiator rogue (5/5 Vengeful, full Vindicator's, both weps and sholders). Now, rogues would be my most favorite PvP class by far if not for hunters. With that being said, this is imbalanced. LOL. I realize 95% of everyone that plays a rogue will never play with gear this good, but still. I've beaten ass on every flavor of Gladiator I've come across outside Durotar numerous times. This is MADNESS. Of course, I am specced ShS for dueling, but still. Now I understand why AR/Prep was nerfed.
OOOOOOOOOOPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP

*goes back to killing 3 people at a time in Warsong*
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: etiolate on February 04, 2008, 01:11:16 AM
The riding crop works with flying mounts.  If people do not own and use one they are rather foolish.


Ah it doesn't work on flight form, which is why I didn't think it worked. Still, it has never felt like much a difference to me.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on February 04, 2008, 01:12:11 AM
Well its pretty logical it doesnt work for a druid in flight form ;)
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Eric P on February 04, 2008, 09:11:53 AM
still unable to find a class which suites me better than lock/hunter i rolled a hunter and spent some of my weekend going through the blood elf content.

the blood elf voidwalker quest is an absolute bitch.  you get sent to the ghostlands to get the voidstone, then you take the voidstone to a dead elf city which is haunted and you have to go to the top of a building fighting ghosts with your fairly weak imp and then you summon and fight your voidwalker then you hoof it back to silvermoon.

Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on February 04, 2008, 11:33:13 AM
Im pretty sure 'my class' is Mage. First character I got to 70, mostly decked out in S1 gear, and when I started a Druid I went Balance towards PVP Moonkin so I can pretty much play a NATURE MAGE haw haw :(

I think my problem with Hunters is that their talent tree is largely boring, and their combat is largely boring. Oh im sure there's some skill involved unique to the class that I am not aware of, but it just seems so zzzzzzzz.

Mages spend so much time zipping around and staying alive while messing with cooldowns and effects, it gets complicated.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Eric P on February 04, 2008, 12:08:18 PM
i hear that people complain about  a hunter just being a macro spammer, but they're playing the class safe and boring.

i like to go for multiple targets and just do crowd control making sure my pet doesn't die.

i think that warlock is the "safest" class in the game once you hit level 10 and you get your void walker.  send your pet in, unleash your DoT frenzy, set your wand to autoshoot then go get a sandwich.  your voidwalker will do crowd control for you and has enough hp that if you have gotten an add or two, your voidwalker will probably not be dead by the time you come back

so seeing how i just wanted to play with the new content for blood elf, it was perfect for me.

i have tried pally and that was ok, but that was a fairly boring time, and i don't really like warrior because it's too easy to get fucked if you get even just one add.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on February 04, 2008, 12:19:54 PM
Warlocks can fight WHILE running away, of course they're the safest lol. I've played a warlock pre-bc, back when they werent OMG, I cannot imagine how easy they are to play now. I also heard they nerfed the infernal quest which used to be stupid hard, but worth it. Now just any ol nub can solo it I hear.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Eric P on February 04, 2008, 12:59:55 PM
i don't know i only played warlock to 52 before i got bored with not doing anything and went hunter
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 04, 2008, 01:03:13 PM
Haven't played in some time; been living at my parent's house for a week since my heat went out. It's being fixed today I think. But now I got tests to study for lol
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Fragamemnon on February 04, 2008, 01:47:21 PM
I was way better on my priest than I ever will be on my warrior, but god help me if I ever heal or buff again for the awful lot that play this game.

I did altfest Gruul's Lair this weekend, first time I ever have been in a raid group since I quit the game back in the Naxx days pre-TBC. It was much like I remembered-lots of sitting around and the usual raid mob shenanigans. I'll pass on doing anything more involved, just not worth the awfulness. I did get attuned to Karazhan at least and have a spot for a weekly raid there, which I suppose works.

Speaking of awfulness, AV on my battlegroup is basically 80 people doing a simultaneous D2 pindle run-completely clockwork, fast (10minutes or so start to finish), and if you do it enough you'll get what you want. With my gear it works out (my only decent gear is PvE warrior tanking gear), but man if there ever was a poster child for why instanced PvP is so awful, AV is it.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on February 04, 2008, 03:33:56 PM
The switch from long games to short games to provide a location for more honor faster in a raid environment was not complete. Half of the instance quests can't be completed in the time provided. Summon frost lord? Good luck! Field Veteran/Elite troops? HAW. Get your wolf patrols out? HAHAH Two pre-reqs for that shit, both seperated by almost the entire map. FAT CHANCE. So the result is a game of 'strategy' as Blizzard calls it, dominated by bizzare bottlenecks and footraces.

The fact of the matter is Vengeance battlegroup was doing FINE with the footrace aka (Dual O) prior the 2.3.xx HP HOTFIX to Alliance raid bosses. Balinda WAS easy, but the time saved on Balinda has always been spent on the assorted bunker/field elites and tower kill-zone surrounding the aid station. Van wasn't exactly a push over unless you had a few good tanks or both bunkers had fallen leaving him alone. Again, this required time.

And Alliance back in the day did fine with this. Drek would require more time, but Alliance enjoys at least 3 ways into FW Keep, a location that not only has all Horde elite NPCs seperate from the Relief Hut, but also has a large stretch to the Relief Hut out of reach of Horde archers. Add to this the fact that Horde towers require very little NPC killing, as a person can pretty much run in the hut up top and camp out in a defensive posture that robs casters of their ability to fight (yay close quarters. Bunkers are much easier to take back, I dont care what anyone says to the contrary.

ALL IN ALL, back then I didnt mind the differences between the assault on RH and AS, as the time requirement horde side was mitigated by the midfield play Alliance had to endure.

THEN Horde got greedy, or maybe its not greedy so much as they looked at the event, got bored, and decided to WIN even more by monopolizing the midfield and participating in the 'stormstrike' strategy movement to keep Alliance at 0 honor per game. To be honest I dont understand the full details of this strat aside from people calling it the 'Scorched Earth' strategy to make it sound more dire than it is.

I understand Alliance not queuing for 0 honor matches, but this is probably where Blizzard should have seen the monster that AV has become. Winning no longer means anything in this battleground. Honor does. The battleground itself has NO REWARD aside from the number of honor dished out at the end. That points to major issues with GAMEPLAY. You could blame the issue of PVP epics, but if AV didnt exist, players WOULD adapt. Its existence in the form it currently takes IS the problem.

So Alliance boycotts across battlegroups and instead of taking a long look at things, Blizzard hotfixes in the laziest way possible. They HP Buff Balinda and Vann. The Alliance players rush back to AV in large crowds and resume play.

GUESS WHAT! Dual O doesnt work anymore! Balinda took a lot of time before but OMG now she takes longer than VANN. Alliance STILL gets a crapload of elites all around AS while frostwolf keep requires the same amount of little effort to cap RH in Dual O AND there are still two points where you can jump the pikes into lower fw keep and ride past elites that will probably never attack you unless there are enough Horde to get them into a fight. I mean Alliance moves FAST now. We have ninjas at RH faster than we beat Bal. Additionally Horde has had to start leaving GYs open for Alliance to cap so we don't force a Turtle in their base.

So as a result half the games are long ass turtle games where one side or the other gets 0-188 honor + deminishing return hk honor or you get a super fast win where Alliance gets 400+ honor and horde gets 120-188 which isnt BAD, but its still not as fast as say EotS or AB on busy days. What really makes a low honor loss hurt so bad is the fact that AV is probably the most boring part of WoW right now. Dual O is boring, Turtles are BORING. None of the PVP encounters in AV are even remotely fair since both sides just zerg each other over and over. I think queuing wouldn't be an issue if AV was actually fun and half the shit in it made a difference.

Assuming Blizzard never completely rehauls AV, the best chance Horde has is to mirror alliance strat and skip Balinda like Alliance skips Galv and work AS south like Alliance works RH north. Its REALLY hard to convince horde to do this but it is almost absolutely essential thanks to the NEED to have such a large force to overtake the SP AS.

Ill keep playing cause PVP is kinda what I do. Once I get my S1 set complete I will queue AB and EotS and some WSG maybe even for the rest o my days until S2 becomes available and I must once against enlist for the soul crunching AV marathons. It sucks, but I want to PVP, not raid.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Fragamemnon on February 04, 2008, 04:34:59 PM
more av fun, coming in 2.4:

Quote
Alterac Valley will see a few very significant improvements in the next patch and we wanted to share the details of what we have planned.

The first change will be to move the Horde's starting tunnel back to a more equal distance from the first objectives, which will help evenly distance the starting points for each side across the terrain when the battle commences.

In addition, the General and Warmasters for each faction will receive a stacking buff from each other that boosts their health and damage. The more of them that are still in the battleground, the more dangerous they will all be. This will put a greater focus on destroying (and defending!) the towers that remove the Warmasters as players work toward defeating the appropriate General and conquering the land.

Also Balinda Stonehearth has been studying her spellbooks to become a more challenging opponent to the Horde and will do more damage with her spells. The additional health we recently added to Balinda and General Vanndar Stormpike will no longer be needed with these improvements and will be changed back to their previous amounts with the patch.

With these improvements teamwork and strategy will be more important than ever from beginning to end as the Alliance and Horde battle for victory in Alterac Valley. We'll see you on the battlefield.

Blizzard can keep changing things around, but in the end it's sort of like the dinosaurs in Jurassic Park-the optimal PvE rush always finds a way!
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on February 04, 2008, 05:20:20 PM
Wha?! Horde can barely keep up in a footrace as it is! This means we'll see ninjas at RH or a zerg at RH before we even get halfway done with bal. Booooo.

I do think the Balinda change in the next patch is more thought out than the hp buff tho.

While I dont agree this will fix the fundamental problem with Alliance capping a GY right next to drek within 5 minutes without any elite npcs nearby to help stop them, it does look like they put one whole person on the issue.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Invertibrate on February 04, 2008, 06:56:05 PM
Wha?! Horde can barely keep up in a footrace as it is! This means we'll see ninjas at RH or a zerg at RH before we even get halfway done with bal. Booooo.

I do think the Balinda change in the next patch is more thought out than the hp buff tho.

While I dont agree this will fix the fundamental problem with Alliance capping a GY right next to drek within 5 minutes without any elite npcs nearby to help stop them, it does look like they put one whole person on the issue.

The fundamental change to honor by removing honor decay will help bring AV back.  Now a slugging match will result in better honor for both sides. 

Lost an AV over the weekend to a pre-made alliance group who did not cap a single Tower.  They killed galv, got a flight master back and summoned the forest lord.  They ended up with 50 more bonus honor than the horde for the win. 
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on February 04, 2008, 07:01:14 PM
Maybe remove deminishing HK gains from just AV and World PVP and revert AV to the old AV, but AB/EotS/WSG NEED that control.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: etiolate on February 04, 2008, 07:15:54 PM
The last AV I played was a lost Zerg. Horde were hitting Vann by the time Snowfall had capped. So the distance addition may help that, but I still think FW needs an elite and SH as well. Or SH GY needs to be moved.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: etiolate on February 04, 2008, 07:19:50 PM
Oh and if you think Warlock is always easy mode, spec destruct and suddenly watch you VW not be able to keep aggro and your survivability drop like a rock. =\

My preferred classes are Hybrids, Druid and Shaman. Adaptability is great, which is why Pallies aren't as beloved by me. They have no ranged, but I think I'd like Prot Pally.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on February 04, 2008, 07:27:12 PM
Haha, well Destruct IS a broken branch. As a fire spec mage I laugh at the few Destruct locks I see.

OH btw I was looking at the requirements for Druid flight form and noticed you have to pay for the flight riding training to use the swift flight form. Why is it that makes sense but druids cant use a riding crop. lol
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: etiolate on February 04, 2008, 10:18:50 PM
Ah have you not run into Nether protection? I just respecced my Desto for the 70% avoid pushback and nether protection as well and was killing locks that way outgeared me. I imagine they were pissed when they kept seeing "Immune Immune Immune" pop up. It should have the same effect on fire mages.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on February 04, 2008, 10:28:15 PM
Ive yet to see it, then again not a lot of destruct locks out there.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: etiolate on February 06, 2008, 02:28:50 AM
I just tried 5v5 arena with Dest lock. By the time I got done having my fears resisted, I managed one shadowfury/howl of terror to remove fear wards and maybe one shadowbolt before the match is over. I end up spending most of the match trying to CC and my team wanting me to just dot, but my dots are only minor annoyances. Makes me wish I had a insta cast like pom pyro. I have backlash and Nightfall, but those require luck or getting hit. Even for a PVP class like Warlock, there seems to be only one spec that works right in Arena.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on February 06, 2008, 02:44:39 AM
Yeah, the Arena shit is serious business. Resilience caps at 450+ ish but if you actually max that youre resisting criticals and dot damage non stop. Ill consider arena when im in FULL S1 + trinkets/accessories, and even then I expect to get spanked. Arena strats are boggling. Truth be told burst dps classes are boo'ed out of arenas simply because resilience has killed the burst dps spec. Deep fire is simply NOT a top tier arena spec IN MOST SITUATIONS. A good player or a good team can make up for the fact that youre 25-35% chance to crit with various spells is fucked up by high resilience players.

On the lighter side I will admit a truth, I have been buyin the Fires of Outland booster packs in an attempt to get some of the cool loot "Fishin Chair" and "Spectral Tiger". I wasn't expecting to get the Goblin Gumbo Pot but its a really fun little item. I had all of AV burping as we raced at the Alliance forces. The effect of eating it lasts 5 minutes, random huge burps. The pot lets anyone in your raid/party take from it, and you can only hold one portion at a time, so its good to down the first one and grab some leftovers.

Not sure what im going to do with all the remaining cards tho, I have no interest in the game. Anyone here play it?

(http://wow.tentonhammer.com/files/gallery/albums/album95/image001.jpg)

(http://img104.imageshack.us/img104/1500/burpht4.jpg)
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Van Cruncheon on February 06, 2008, 02:57:51 AM
maf just ran me through sfk, got some nice eq upgrades for my lvl25 priest and some shit OF TEH EAGLE to sell for ridiculous prices to twinx

:bow :bow maf :bow :bow

also BELCHING AT ARUGAL
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on February 06, 2008, 03:13:36 AM
Arugal had it coming
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on February 07, 2008, 01:21:07 AM
http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=4311058635&sid=1&pageNo=1

someone fully documented the issues with FWKeep lol, with pics
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on February 07, 2008, 12:27:01 PM
(http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/4913/gumboom5.jpg)

GUMBOOOO FEAR IT
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Eric P on February 07, 2008, 12:50:41 PM



Not sure what im going to do with all the remaining cards tho, I have no interest in the game. Anyone here play it?




i want to buy the cards for that stuff too

does it transfer to all your toons (like the LE pets) or just to that one?
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on February 07, 2008, 01:35:23 PM
Thats a great question. The way it works is you take the card code to the website, put it in, then you get a Game Code that you provide to Londo in Booty Bay. I suspect its a one time use code just like the original code on the card so I would GUESS not.

The trouble is the odds of the REALLY cool stuff are pretty slim. Im close to giving up on say the spectral tiger mount card which sells for like 800 on ebay. The fishing chair would be the next thing I aim for, in a realistic sense, but ya gotta look at this this way. Sure I could get another loot card, but it'll probably be the Gumbo again, since that and the chair are the two most common of the three. Additionally there are versions of the loot card WITHOUT the code. I have a non-code Goblin Gumbo card. Imagine getting a non-code Spectral Tiger. Oh the rage.

In any case the Fires of Outland boosters have the best loot cards imo. March of the Legion has a lot of short one shot deals like the rocket chicken and paper gyrocopter. The rocket mount is long lost in the booster packs for one of the first sets of WoW TCG so I doubt we'll see that one again. The turtle is neat but it moves slower than a REAL 40 mount and is there mostly for novelty. I think it clocks in at 20%, not the 60% of a 40 mount.

SO yeah I may nix my plans to hunt the spectral tiger beyond simply buying booster packs when and if I see them. You can buy most of the non-mount loot cards for 20-30 on ebay, and that potentially saves you money. It took me 9 booster packs to get the gumbo by chance. Its impossible to find places that sell WoW TCG tho.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Eric P on February 07, 2008, 02:49:39 PM
Its impossible to find places that sell WoW TCG tho.

which is exactly the issue i've run into.  even at gaming stores

Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on February 07, 2008, 05:58:21 PM
You can order decks and boxes from Amazon but they proxy for some off the wall site i've never heard of. They get good feedback but for some reason the stuff not coming DIRECTLY from Amazon makes it seem like more work.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: etiolate on February 09, 2008, 06:57:30 AM
I had an estimated 3k honor due, which would have gotten me the season 1 shoulders. Honor resets and I get... 1200. The estimate was off for more than the actual honor granted. Blizzard is over-promise and under-deliver.

The biggest pisser was, if the estimate was on then I would only be another 3k away from the War Stave I think, which might be better since my shoulders now are blue but have spell hit, and the felshroud has spell crit. I think I need a certain level of spell hit to get good raid dps. The staff has spell hit and crit I am pretty sure, and more damage than my current staff, just less crit. 

My lock is at 637 spell damage and 21%(+ 5% talent bonus) crit. I've been planning out my gear, and due to the inbetween status of the tier 4 set, I only want two pieces for the 2 piece bonus. For the rest I'd use arena or any spell crit cloth epics, plus my engineering goggles which are better than t4 or arena. So 2 t4 +goggles +arena means I need to use gloves and shoulders for the pve 2 set bonus, which is why the arena shoulders are iffy, but resil  is pretty much required for any pvp now. What it all adds up to is that I am going to have to mix and match gear because shadowfrost has NO spell crit, the fire tailoring set does but warlock fire spells get less bonus damage to begin with and do not proc a debuff like shadowbolts do. I checked a bunch of raiding desto locks on my server that only have 17% spell crit, which seems low to me. I guess they rely a lot on food, pots and raid buffs.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on February 09, 2008, 12:07:04 PM
Im not sure what process is involved with estimation. For HKs do they still do this global check and balance against all other players? I mean the BGs return a flat rate, you get what you get, but HKs seem to gum stuff up cause of the deminishing returns

ALSO! Finally got my war staff. Time for another break from PVP to level up my druid. Finally getting that spell damage closer to respectable levels. Still need pants, bracers, belt, rings, trinket...and wand and spell power chants. I also got level 9 food and water and mage table this week. Big week woo

(http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/6133/staffuz6.jpg)

http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Muradin&n=Vynitha
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Eric P on February 10, 2008, 08:44:25 PM
i have lost all desire to play.  i don't want to run with my hunter, i made a lock to do blood elf, but that bored me too

Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on February 10, 2008, 08:53:48 PM
I wanna get my 25 lock up to 70 for Northrend, I'm on Black Dragonflight, you should be too, let's do it, come on
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Eric P on February 10, 2008, 08:58:29 PM
I wanna get my 25 lock up to 70 for Northrend, I'm on Black Dragonflight, you should be too, let's do it, come on
you're about to go to france!

Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on February 10, 2008, 09:01:43 PM
I still have like an hour
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Eric P on February 10, 2008, 09:02:15 PM
lol

what race are you?  i'll think about it
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on February 10, 2008, 09:07:22 PM
I cant stop playing my mage, I love it. Tho I did get a druid to 20 so far, but im playing it like a mage lol
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on February 10, 2008, 09:10:23 PM
I'm a sexy belf
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on February 10, 2008, 09:13:05 PM
WHO ISNT AM I RITE?!
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Eric P on February 10, 2008, 09:13:31 PM
I'm a sexy belf

sure, i'll give it a shot.

what's your char's name?
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on February 10, 2008, 09:43:34 PM
oops I have to go to France

when I return!
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Eric P on February 10, 2008, 09:48:10 PM
BASTARDO!
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Van Cruncheon on February 10, 2008, 10:13:23 PM
i'm trying to rush a sexy belf shadowpriest up through the ranks for northrend myself, just did 26-30 this weekend and may even make 31!

man, though, the econ on my server is borked. good lvl30 eq is priced for twinks in the 5-40g range :'(
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: etiolate on February 10, 2008, 10:48:37 PM
God damned belfs

My server is so imbalanced.

http://www.warcraftrealms.com/census.php?serverid=734&factionid=-1&minlevel=70&maxlevel=70&servertypeid=-1

31% of 70s are Alliance. 27% Are Blood Elves and that number is rising. Close to 3x as many Blood Elves as there are Dranei, Dwarves and Gnomes combined.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on February 10, 2008, 10:51:44 PM
It has more to do with the starting area honestly. Alliance enjoys several great starting areas while only the Undead REALLY enjoys a good starting zone. Trisfall Glades + Silverpine are great, whereas The Barrens is a big armpit and Mulgore is a boring early area that is connected to, you guessed it, the Barrens.

Sure, Horde can choose other races and travel to silvermoon, but why not just make a belf and be done with it.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: etiolate on February 11, 2008, 07:38:58 AM
I didn't like Trisfal too much. too many mobs and too many undead mobs which are immune to various things. Belf area is fast as hell to get to 20 in though, but I don't think that is it.  It's basically the emo look, erp fashion of my lame server and also the fuckin OP racial for pvp. It is actually a nice racial for pve as well, since its like a free mana pot.

And the Dranei area is also fast and has got good early quest rewards, but its still rather low population wise. Out of the ally characters, I only really move the dwarves/gnomes to elwynn since their starter area is too big and quests too spread apart, a la Barrens. But the only real great starter areas are elwynn/westfall and the Dranei area. Night elves second area, Darkshore, is actually a pain in the ass. Then you have Ashenvale next, where Astranaar has Horde in it more often than Alliance.

I think what hurts Dranei is what also hurts the NE area, that Alliance are never in Darnassus or Exador and most of your sides population is on the other continent. And you don't have a nice easy zepp ride to get there, you have to do an hour long corpse run.

Basically its the pretty look, the fast starter area, the pretty look, the racial, the elf factor, the factor that they have some of the most popular classes minus warrior, and the pretty look.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on February 11, 2008, 11:12:09 AM
Horde are NEVER in Silvermoon, mostly in Org and some in UC. Most old world horde areas are still pretty poorly developed in terms of quests and mob density. The belf area is all n all more difficult to solo than the Dranei area, but it has an easier end quest. Dranei area has an easier layout and its quests are mostly easy but its end quest is harder than the belf one.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: etiolate on February 11, 2008, 07:51:18 PM
Yeah Silvermoon is pretty empty. Org is the most pupulated, but its too spread out for me. Thunder Bluff is nice and easy, so I take that or Undercity as home.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Invertibrate on February 11, 2008, 08:03:24 PM
i'm trying to rush a sexy belf shadowpriest up through the ranks for northrend myself, just did 26-30 this weekend and may even make 31!

man, though, the econ on my server is borked. good lvl30 eq is priced for twinks in the 5-40g range :'(

If you are leveling it is pointless to buy gear, especially with the changes to leveling it is just not worth it.  You will be out of that gear in no time flat.  I walked into outland on my SP with a level 40 staff.  It is especially pointless to buy anything given that your first 30 minutes in outland will just about replace every gear slot you have.   

Blues in the 10-19 and 20-29 range are always gonna be pricey.  I see good 29 cool young dude stuff go for 80-100 gold and will always sell at that price.  After you get your flight skills paid off money really is not that important giving people tons of money to throw around at side projects, like twinks. 
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Van Cruncheon on February 11, 2008, 11:29:24 PM
good point. i'm in decent priest kit now at 31, with 1500 hp and 2900 mana. i'll just start saving.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 13, 2008, 06:29:05 PM
Nagrand :bow

I'm getting so much money and XP right now due to these quests.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 13, 2008, 08:53:51 PM
Not on my GeForce 6100  :lol
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Van Cruncheon on February 13, 2008, 10:08:02 PM
do you have a pci-x or agp slot, pd
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: T234 on February 14, 2008, 12:05:12 AM
I can't wait till Sapphire's 3850 512 AGP comes out.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Fragamemnon on February 14, 2008, 11:50:07 AM
Executioner enchant so expensive! :gloomy :gloomy . My gem and enchant bill after two weeks of just farking Kara is going to wind up at or above 1000g, ouch.

My fury PvE is finally getting into decent shape and I have my fast flying mount, so I think I've almost beat the game (for me) at this point since I don't want to do 25 man PvE asshattery or arenas/PvP.

my outland zone ratings, in order from good to bad:

Nagrand
Netherstorm
Zangramarsh
Terrokar Forest
Shadowmoon Valley
Hellfire Peninsula
Blade's Edge Mountains
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on February 14, 2008, 12:28:06 PM
PVP rox f u :(
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Fragamemnon on February 14, 2008, 12:34:43 PM
PVP rox f u :(

wow pvp makes me want to log out and read a book
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on February 14, 2008, 01:45:33 PM
:( I like fireblasting other players more than distributing water :(
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 14, 2008, 01:48:07 PM
do you have a pci-x or agp slot, pd

Yup
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 14, 2008, 01:52:34 PM
:( I like fireblasting other players more than distributing water :(
:lol

Now that I think about it mages in instance groups don't seem to have much fun. Usually the priest wins the cloth drops, and all the mage does is serve water and damage from afar. And poly I guess
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on February 14, 2008, 01:55:18 PM
Mages are fuck boring in group PvE. Everyone just wants me to serve a boring ass utility role that uses 3 of my 80 gajillion spells and they get mad when I generate too much threat but gee golly im a fire mage gtfo if I wasnt you'd probably ditch me for some warlock as soon as I throw you a table at the meeting stone.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Van Cruncheon on February 14, 2008, 02:05:18 PM
do you have a pci-x or agp slot, pd

Yup

boggle

do you have either 1) a pci-x slot; or 2) an agp slot where one might be able to stick a videocard and thus save you from the integrated video hell that is the 6100

pick a number
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on February 14, 2008, 02:33:44 PM
My DPS is tops awesome ultra. I beat out another mage in an AV DPS fest last night. 350,000 dealt! I dont even have my spell power chants or all my PVP gear!
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 14, 2008, 02:43:39 PM
 :lol

I'm sorry guys, my brain hurts. Yes I have a PCI-x slot

Quote
PCI Express (PCIe x16) slot available

So #1
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Van Cruncheon on February 14, 2008, 04:59:50 PM
lemme dig around the fort and see what i got for pci-x cards, i THINK i have a 7600.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 14, 2008, 05:01:22 PM
I dunno if I could accept another generous gift from you dude. You're making me feel like a BUM :(


spoiler (click to show/hide)
I'm going to have to get you something awesome. One day.
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Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Van Cruncheon on February 14, 2008, 11:40:17 PM
if i ain't using it, what's the point of hoarding it
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: etiolate on February 15, 2008, 02:50:31 AM
I am retiring my shaman from mana tombs. Theres always some dungeon my characters are cursed not to get the one special drop from. Mana Tombs is Shaman city, holding 3-5 drops for an enhancement shaman and I've only gotten two in about 3 or 4 weeks of runs.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on February 15, 2008, 02:51:37 AM
im grinding stupid scryer rep so i can get the good inscriptions. Anyone let me know how to get the equipment sets from scryers/aldor?
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: etiolate on February 15, 2008, 07:29:31 AM
equipment sets? I am not sure what you mean.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on February 15, 2008, 10:09:06 AM
there's two vendors in the scryers selling full sets of pve gear
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 15, 2008, 10:19:26 AM
if i ain't using it, what's the point of hoarding it

In that case I'll take it, whenever you find it/have time.

While in Nagrand I constantly notice lv70 horde doing the exact same quests as me. Luckily most have been pretty cool, and one even worked with me to finish a kill quest lol
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on February 15, 2008, 11:21:05 AM
PD: Basically once you hit 70, you get gold instead of exp, so a quick way to make money early at 70 is to run quests in outland. MOST 70s try not to get in the way of anyone lower lol.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 15, 2008, 11:56:19 AM
Ah makes sense. Those quests really give lots of gold. The economy on my server is stalling, and most of my blacksmith stuff isn't selling. So I've been doing well getting 3g-7g rewards for quests, and there are a LOT of minerals in outland too. Adamantite sells pretty well
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on February 15, 2008, 12:03:43 PM
yeah most shadowmoon quests give me 11-12 gold for example
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 15, 2008, 12:05:16 PM
Nice. I've got like 250g now; I recently spent 200g+ on fel iron; I'm getting my blacksmithing skills up, but I'm sort of bummed that a lot of the stuff I'll be able to make binds once I make it - so I won't be able to sell it. MEH
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on February 15, 2008, 12:07:19 PM
im supporting a few friends and an alt and my main so I dont hold on to more than 100 for long lol
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: T234 on February 15, 2008, 12:11:12 PM
Nice. I've got like 250g now; I recently spent 200g+ on fel iron; I'm getting my blacksmithing skills up, but I'm sort of bummed that a lot of the stuff I'll be able to make binds once I make it - so I won't be able to sell it. MEH
At least you're not an engineer. Nearly everything I make is not really marketable. The only major exception is guns.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on February 15, 2008, 12:12:16 PM
Engineers are for people who have been 70 for a while and wanna burn thousands of gold on cool gadgets
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: T234 on February 15, 2008, 12:13:53 PM
I chose engineer because every profession except it is represented by a master in my guild.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on February 15, 2008, 12:14:56 PM
thats cause its so expensive :(

Trust me, I went that path on a pre-70 character, its financial pain
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: T234 on February 15, 2008, 12:16:11 PM
A lotta times I can trade ore for shit with my guildies.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: T234 on February 15, 2008, 12:17:31 PM
For example, coarse stones. I have traded three stacks of copper ore for one stack of coarse stone.

EDIT: It's pretty much the same amount on AH.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on February 15, 2008, 12:23:58 PM
I have to farm the dorks at epscilon or whatever peak, they respawn stupid fast. I just farm there stupid rings and tomes. Want exalted with scryers so I can get the GOOD inscriptions
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: T234 on February 15, 2008, 12:40:02 PM
Maf, will inscription be a money-making profession?
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on February 15, 2008, 12:47:12 PM
I suspect they'll make as much money as enchanting...not sure
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: T234 on February 15, 2008, 01:01:11 PM
By the time wrath of the lich king comes out I will be a 70 with a honkin stack of gold. I should just power level an alt to 375 enchanting just so as to make even more money. and leave the other tradeskill blank just to get to be able to do inscription.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on February 15, 2008, 01:25:15 PM
inscription is for spells, you r-tard
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on February 15, 2008, 01:36:36 PM
And you might not going by Blizzards current example of inscription in Shatt, where you turn in faction items for runes you give to an inscription guy who basically enchants your shoulders. There's really no 'spell' involved.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: T234 on February 15, 2008, 01:43:33 PM
Inscription works on yer spellbook, improving ranges, duration, and power.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: T234 on February 15, 2008, 01:49:14 PM
I read in one of the specific examples in GFW it working on hunter shit, so I'm holding out hope for shit for rogues.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on February 15, 2008, 02:52:53 PM
of course warriors/rogues will benefit from inscription
spells/abilities
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Invertibrate on February 15, 2008, 03:41:25 PM
there's two vendors in the scryers selling full sets of pve gear

This is the Tier 4 and Tier 5 gear that you can get for doing 10 and 25 man raids. 
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Invertibrate on February 15, 2008, 03:47:38 PM
of course warriors/rogues will benefit from inscription
spells/abilities

I'm gonna have to see how this works...is it a permanent enchant or something?  If so, that'd be kind of cool...but getting a -5 sec to intercept cooldown or +10% bleed damage on rend doesn't sound nearly as useful as the improvement I imagine casters are going to get.

That's just my speculation though.  Maybe I'll start playing this again this weekend.

Every class will get benefits.  While 10% of some effect does not sound like a ton, but when you are talking about end game where all you are doing is making small tweaks to gear and such to get more benefit it makes a huge difference.  One of the biggest thing for PVE rogues for example is to have a longer or faster slice n dice since that is an ability while raiding that you always have up.  If you can make that more effective by having it provide 2% more haste every PVE rogue would be all over it.

A big thing from what I can tell is there will be inscriptions that will be more based to pvp and some for pve.  Inscription is basically another level of class specializing beyond just a talent spec that will allow players to further create a character they want to play. 

Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Invertibrate on February 15, 2008, 04:42:43 PM
I've always wondered about that gear in Shattrath as well.  The only way I could ever get good gear was through PVP since I don't really have anyone to play with and I don't want to hold anyone back in a PUG.

:(

If you can get 5 people you like to play with together doing heroic dungeons is a great way to get gear.  The badge loot is at the same level as most SSC/TK 25 man dungeon gear.  The only way to make friends in game though is to group with people.  If you are nice and friendly you will get invited back and eventually have people to play with.  I have been fortunate enough to be able to play with RL friends that got me into a great guild that is now a group I like a lot and have been playing with for years.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: T234 on February 15, 2008, 04:49:41 PM
Yeah, I was lucky. My cousin runs a guild. We're not a hardcore raiding outfit, but we do a lot of things based around economics and PVP.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 15, 2008, 05:01:11 PM
FA: Me and Etoilet are on Ravenholdt (allies), and Drinky/MAF/my alt are on Muradin (horde)
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: T234 on February 15, 2008, 05:02:25 PM
I'm on tychondrius.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 15, 2008, 05:05:19 PM
I'm on the horde in the Ysera server.  Maji is (sorta) there too, but he never levels anyone past 21.
Maybe I'll make an alt sometime.  How often do you play your alt and what classes are they at Muradin?  I'm a warrior.

My alt is lv18 but I don't play on it much; my main (Goinio) always takes my time. Once my housing situation is done I'll have more time to play WoW
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: lordmaji on February 15, 2008, 05:19:40 PM
FA: Me and Etoilet are on Ravenholdt (allies), and Drinky/MAF/my alt are on Muradin (horde)

PD. You're a ball. Pay for my char transfer and I'll bring my lvl 55 night elf hunter over to your server. :lol

Maybe if FA does an alt over on Maf's or Pd's server I may play again. *shrug* who knows.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Van Cruncheon on February 15, 2008, 06:09:57 PM
i'm on muradin with a lvl34 priest
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on February 15, 2008, 06:13:00 PM
there's two vendors in the scryers selling full sets of pve gear

This is the Tier 4 and Tier 5 gear that you can get for doing 10 and 25 man raids. 

Thanks for clearing this up! There's very little indication as to what is required for this stuff.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Invertibrate on February 15, 2008, 06:30:27 PM
I'm trying to get Maji back into the game and I wish I could play with some people here...but I'm destined to only have PVP purples and Quest Reward blues & greens.

ewww :-\

http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Ysera&n=Danturner

That's my character, but it hasn't updated in forever.  I actually have the other PVP 1 handed weapon too instead of Stellaris.


A couple suggestion if you are going Fury.  First you want slow weapons in both hands. Second to not have Enrage and Flurry in your build is a sin against god.  If you are PVPing move the points out of Imp heroic strike, imp thunder clap and put them in iron will and use the left over point toward enrage.  Dump Blood Craze and Imp Cleave for more points toward enrage and flurry.  For the last couple points maybe points out of imp Bezerker stance, that is more of a pve ability.  You really don't need rage saving elements that you have a lot of points in as a DW warrior since you are going to be generating a ton of rage.

Here is an example I whipped up.  http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=LV0tzhbZVVzVxxRVufo
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Invertibrate on February 15, 2008, 06:36:45 PM
Continuation from above.

Though if you are PVPing 2hander really is the way to go.

http://www.wowarmory.com/character-talents.xml?r=Kilrogg&n=Lemmywinks


Hehe hit the wrong button
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on February 15, 2008, 06:46:15 PM
*I could never get the stance switching down in PVP with a warrior.

My current Fire PVP build. Its close to the elementalist build but I REALLY wanted improved counter spell so I lost some fire spec utility (but not a lot of dps) so I could get Imp Counter and keep elemental precision. I may respec a little and put the missile points in arcane into arcane focus to make sheeps more potent and last longer. I dont really use AM anyway. Its weird sites like WoWWiki show talents put into worthless crap like Arcane Fortitude lol.

http://www.wowarmory.com/character-talents.xml?r=Muradin&n=Vynitha

If I ever go arena ill probably research some frost stuff, but ive been playing fire so long im not sure it will be an easy switch
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on February 15, 2008, 06:54:18 PM
Warriors really need a heal-type pal with them to be utterly unstoppable.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Invertibrate on February 15, 2008, 08:00:01 PM
I didn't really like using slow weapons when dual wielding since I don't really have a high hit rate and I miss pretty often.  This is pretty much a PVE build, though I only did go fury for the last 2-3 weeks of playing (quit again in Nov/Dec). 

Since I haven't been able to raid at all, I mostly rely on whatever I can get in quests/AH/PVP, and the best one-handers were the gladiator weapons.  The main hand is pretty slow if I remember, like 2.7secs per hit.

If I hadn't quit, I would've put the points in enrage and flurry for sure.  That was totally a sing against god lol.  I'd probably not use the Iron Will, and instead keep my points in Heroic/Thunder clap, as those are two abilities I find myself using almost every battle.  Heroic Strike is a pretty good rage dump and outside of raiding or PVP I rarely get stunned or charmed.

And yeah, if doing PVP, dual wielding is worthless.  Since everyone's always stunning/freezing/slowing me down and running, I really rely on the quick burst damage of a meaty two-hander.  I only have a crappy Crystalforged War Axe though :-\



The main reason for the change to a slow offhand is that whirlwind now hits with both weapons so you want that high crit on whirlwind.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on February 16, 2008, 01:48:08 PM
LOL I will add you but I dont really group with people. Oh btw everyone its AV weekend. Even if you lose a lot you still get bonus honor lol
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on February 16, 2008, 01:58:14 PM
oh well you can at least chat with prole and myself lol
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on February 16, 2008, 02:08:50 PM
haha, warriors have it hard.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on February 16, 2008, 02:09:50 PM
Let me know when you hit 40 and ill send you the money for mount-training and your mount. Im doin the same for Prole. You guys will have to earn Epic Mount crap on yer own tho huagh huagh huagh!
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 16, 2008, 02:28:28 PM
MAF is too lazy for an epic flying mount, and so am I  :lol

Once my situation is settled I'll be playing more
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Van Cruncheon on February 16, 2008, 02:45:36 PM
my char is named medeane, add me to yer friends
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 16, 2008, 07:36:54 PM
PD, what class are you on Marudin?  You should play there more!  Maji should be coming over too.

lv18 pally belf lol.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Van Cruncheon on February 16, 2008, 08:27:52 PM
oh you! i friended you last night and you were 5 then. ;)
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 16, 2008, 11:06:34 PM
11 levels wtf!  :lol
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: etiolate on February 17, 2008, 12:24:13 AM
I respecced my Shaman to Elemental out of boredom and got her to 67. I just got tired of being CCed in pvp. I could get up in BG Damage charts, but I would have like 3x as many deaths to kills. I would be top in deaths and like 5th in Damage.  Now I am top 3 in Damage and die a lot less. I just walk in, lightning bolt, chain light and crit like mad. I have like +11% chance to crit and +9% chance ot hit on those spells from talents alone. My gear is pretty iffy since I am starting over, but I got a blue dps shield waiting for me at 68 that I got on the cheap at AH.

The only problem is there is no pushback resist talents. =/ I can't get a cast off through anything htting me that isn't say a voidwalker. But by 70 I will have the 40/21 build and have instant nuke with ele mastery and natures swiftness.

I will miss enhance though. So much DPS. The day before respeccing and hitting 67, I solod a 70 resto druid in arena gear at Halaa.

And I thought I would get my War Staff for my lock from this AV weekend but now Ally aren't winning cuz our groups are filled with afkers. We had 5 of our ogues having a campout in a mine one game. I'm a fucking gnolmelock and I am the only one going to ninja FW towers because our stealthies are running around with fishing poles.

Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: etiolate on February 17, 2008, 04:52:24 AM
there's two vendors in the scryers selling full sets of pve gear

Ah you need the tokens that drop off of raid bosses.  The gloves and head tokens drop in Kara, the pants and shoulders in Gruul and the chestpiece off of Magtheridon.

The t6 tokens drop in Tempest Keep's The Eye and Serpentshrine Caverns.



Oh and Engineering makes no money and just costs money, but the epic goggles are awesome.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 17, 2008, 01:32:07 PM
I'm gonna try Mana Tombs tomorrow, if I can find a group. :bow

I need to find actual instance quests though.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Van Cruncheon on February 17, 2008, 04:21:36 PM
no instances? not even shadowfang keep or ragefire chasm? mmmm, shadowfang keep.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 17, 2008, 05:13:16 PM
wtf no instances? that's one of the greatest things about WoW  :'(
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Van Cruncheon on February 17, 2008, 05:15:12 PM
ragefire chasm, gadgetzan and wailing caverns aren't, and i think i'm starting to hate razorfen kraul

but when an instance is awesome, it's *!FUCK AWESOME!*
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Van Cruncheon on February 17, 2008, 05:47:38 PM
i'd do sfk with you!
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 17, 2008, 05:55:22 PM
Tanking is cool! I like knowing I'm the anchor of the group :bow

I loooved Dead Mines. The only instance that I really, REALLY hated was Gnomer; I'll never do it again. I've done RFC a couple times with my alt, and it was rather boring. But I was healing so maybe that's why
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Van Cruncheon on February 17, 2008, 06:00:35 PM
i don't really quit so much as massively scale back, hence i have never gotten a character to 40 :'(
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 17, 2008, 06:02:02 PM
SM :bow

I loved that instance too. ZF is good but extremely tedious, especially the massive wave on the pyramid steps omg.

In Outland I like BF because it's rather easy and fast; outside of the second boss fight (with the waves of orcs) it's a breeze. Ramparts is more challenging and tedious imo. I've only done Underbog a couple times, and it was easy until the final boss. I did Slave Pens once and failed miserably; 5-6 mobs at a time SMH
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 17, 2008, 06:03:52 PM
On being a prot warrior outside of instances: Grinding can definitely take time, but I like using that time to hone my skills. Often I'll fight 2-3 mobs at the same time and just practice getting sunders on them for instance. But now that I'm lv65 I have no problem solo'ing. It doesn't take forever anymore due to Devastate :bow
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Eric P on February 17, 2008, 10:51:21 PM
i got my bloodelf hunter to 18 on Patel's server.

only to find a bunch of you had grouped on a new server.

bastards.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Eric P on February 18, 2008, 12:48:18 AM
i'm only 10 hours into that char

i'll create a new one on that serv just because
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Van Cruncheon on February 18, 2008, 12:50:01 AM
be sure to post yer char name
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: CurseoftheGods on February 18, 2008, 12:54:43 AM
Are you guys Horde? I want to play with you. :hyper
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Van Cruncheon on February 18, 2008, 12:58:10 AM
horde, yeah
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: etiolate on February 18, 2008, 05:37:49 AM
PD I will go back on my mana tombs boycott if you need some DPS.

My Warlock got the Glad War Staff last night ad my Shaman hit 68 tonight.

As for instances, if you have good people to group with instances are a lot more enjoyable than the uncreative mindless questing that makes me smash my head in, The difficult part is finding those people.

I've done: Deadmines, SFK, Ragiefire, Wailing Caverns(which I still get lost in), RFK, RFD, SM, ZF, Sunken Temple, Mara(HATE), Gnomer(Hate), Uldaman, Strath and Scholo(hate), Blackfathom Deeps(which nobody would do if certain classes didn't have quests there), Zul Gurub zerg runs, Blackrock Depths, UBRS and LBRS, a little Molten Core one night, all the outland 5 mans, Black Morass and Old Hillsbrad, Karazhan, Gruul, Magheteridon, Tempest Keep The Eye and Serpentshrine Cavern. The only things I haven't done are Black Temple, Mount Hyjal, Naxx, Zul'Aman and AQ.

My favorites are Deadmines, Zul Furrak, and Old Hilllsbrad. Kara isn't bad either, only 10 man raid and tons of bosses and loot. We'd do an entire run in one night.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: etiolate on February 18, 2008, 06:17:08 AM
As for my Druid...does anyone have experience on them here?  I know I have to do a few things to get my bear form, but I'm not sure what all yet.  I've put my 3 talent points into improving Mark of the Wild, but at this early level that seems like a waste.  A 21% improvement on +50 armor and + 2 stats only improves armor rating by like 12-13 points and doesn't add to the stats at all.



Are you Horde or Ally? On Alliance you have to do some go here, talk to this guy, fetch this quests and then finally kill a moonkin in Darkshore. Why you kill a moonkin to get bear form I do not know. If you get the posion quest you can do that in Darkshore as well, but it is more running around. The aquatic form quest is a major pain in the ass some druids don't ever bother with, but I like having it.

For talents, it depends on what sort of Druid you plan to play. MotW benefits everything, but I normally invest my first talent point into nature's grasp in the Balance tree. It gives you an escape snare and most every spec puts a point into it. But if you're feral, you'll want to just invest in Feral first. Do the reduced cost for swipes and bite attacks.

So if you're resto or balance, put 1 point into Nature's grasp at least. If you're balance then put points into reducing the cast time of Natures Wrath so you get 1.5 second spam. Then the increased moonfire damage, increased crit chance and then insect swarm. If you're resto do imp MotW and then Naturalist. Naturalist is one of the best 2nd level talents for Druids. It reduces the cast time of Healing touch and improves damage in all forms by 10%. It is standard in every Druid build pretty much.

Here are some good Druid builds

A Boomkin Build:
http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=0tcrzicsxuVoZxxcx

Feral:
http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=0zZxGGsfroezioVxhz

You can take a point out of Natures Grasp and put into the stun/fear resist for tanking or pvp value, or move some other points around. You do always want Naturalist. furor and omen of clarity in resto.

Tree/feral pvp build:
http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=0zZxMGoZVEIzcq0Ist

Main difference for the Resto pvp build to PVE, is no imp MOTW and instead furor so you can bash and charge immediatly on shapeshift. Omen of Clarity is there just as a cover buff. OoC is useless to anything not feral and nobody understands why it is in the Resto tree and why before it was in Balance.

Full Tree

Just stick 61 points into Resto and do nothing but raid heal and have useless crap like imp healing touch. Not a fan of this but theres nothing much to help your healing in Balance or Feral at the tree level.

Tree/feral PVE
http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=0zZxMGoZxvsdcq0jst

Again, difference is MOTW instead of Furor, and subtlety points. Druid healing always gave me threat problems and subtlety is supposed to address that but doesn't really. My points there are just based on faith and reduced chance to get my hots dispelled. You can throw some points around from here to there in resto, but every talent I have maxed out is required for the build. Natural Perfection is what makes resto druids tough in 2 man arena. It procs often and makes you harder to kill. That with thick hide gives you some protection if you grab aggro.

Tree/Balance
http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=0tMrzbZZxvsbcq0jst

This will make you able to raid heal or main heal and also do some casting damage on the side. Again, anything not maxed out is movable point wise, but worth putting points into.  You can even go deeper into balance and get Vengeance for solo purposes.

My favorite druid builds:

Resto/Feral Hybrid
http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=0zZxMGsfdoLZIeszcq0bo

Requires you have a hybrid gearset(hardly exist) or carry two gears with you, but you can tank up to Hellfire Ramparts level stuff, and heal just fine. Solo wise you can do decent dps in cat form and have tons of survivalbility. This build will make you outlast many things. Adaptability is its key. Point wise, you can switch furor and motw on which you prefer, and the unmaxed points are always switchable.  One thing you may want to do is put points into the improved threat skill in feral for tanking and the stealth for sneaking around.

Resto/Balance Hybrid
http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=0tMrzicshZZxesocq0ho

You can heal fine, not tree heal, but 5man heal or BG heal just fine. Your hots are weaker than a tree druid, but you have more +healing than a tree druid. Also, you can boom! 2500+ Starfires in my heal gear. Moonfire crits giving you fast as hell wrath spam. Farther reach on your roots for CC and kiting. It's just a fun build and I solo and farm mats with it in heal gear with little problem. Unmaxed talent points in resto are switchable, the Balance side is set.

Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Eric P on February 18, 2008, 09:15:13 AM
Started a Troll Shaman called Bujahideen.

combination of Mujahideen and Buhaina (Art Blakey's Islam Name)
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on February 18, 2008, 10:10:58 AM
I havent done most of the instances in WoW. Some classes just arent fun in them.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: cubicle47b on February 18, 2008, 10:43:01 AM
A lot of old world instances aren't very fun to play.  I still shudder when thinking of LBRS runs.  Good god.  Scarlet Monastery still holds up well but it's the Burning Crusades instances that fucking rock.  Shadow Labyrinth.  :bow

edit: I'm playing again.  My roommate resubscribed, found out some of our friends were playing, I signed up last Monday, and now I have a level 39 mage (I was sick this weekend so I stayed in). *shrugs*
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on February 18, 2008, 11:31:51 AM
My current guild always wants to run pre-60 instances which SUCKS since im fire spec and there aren't really any fire-friendly higher level instances until the BC content. Which I may take them up on once in a while. Im sadly the only mage above 30 in the rather large guild. Hunters and Paladins wherever I look!

Theyre a good group tho and let me decide when I want to stop PVPing and help em out.

Last night the guild leader was helping some lowbie hunter get some invisible cat whatever in Night Elf Land. So I grouped up and we did some raiding along the way killing pretty much everything in Auberdine including the flight master and some 70 mage that for some reason thought he could DPS a paladin down instead of attacking me. I imp counter spelled him and the Paladin and I teamed up for a quick kill. Well ANYWAY everyone but the paladin hopped the wrong boat and on arrival faced a bunch of pissed off 70s near the portal to Darnassus.  So here I was with a, 70 hunter, a 23 hunter, a 40 something warlock and a 60 warrior, facing off against 5 level 70s, most in S3 gear. In the lead of their group was the mage we toasted in Auberdine.
 
As they approached I did the only sane thing there was to do. As we started backing up I popped invisibility and slowly faded away into the pocket dimension. Once there I dropped off the side of the pier and into the water and then positioned myself under the pier so I could breath. I saw everyones life bar drop rather fast and kinda felt bad, but SURVIVAL OF THE FITTEST and no amount of HERO COMPLEX will stop S3 70s with our numbers. I could hear the mage above popping Arcane Nova so I made my way to the end of the pier and as luck would have it the boat from Auberdine had just shown up. I swam underneith and then right behind the boat so that I could get some air. Once my PVP flag was off made my way onto one of the next boats that showed up.

I think that has always been my problem with World PVP. The Horde pop is generally so busted (on most servers) that in the end Horde has to run off when they've pissed off enough Alliance players. Still, it was fun getting them all pissed off.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 18, 2008, 11:36:43 AM
Finding a good group can be tough. It sucks because I had a nice group of people back when I was around lv60, but I ran into computer problems for more than a month, and when I came back they were all lv70 lol. Sort of has happened again because I've been busy with school/house drama and haven't played seriously in a couple weeks. I'm going to try to find a group in a couple hours and do something.

Paladins: I love them, and they always rock in groups. Plus I've noticed that they're fucking awesome tanks, which makes me somewhat jealous lol; granted I haven't run across a tank pally since I respec'd/got Devastate so maybe the tables have turned. And also, I like pally healers because they can take a little damage, so I don't have to worry about protecting them as much as a priest

Rogues: MEH. So many are more concerned with doing a billion DPS than working with the team. But when you find a dedicated rogue they're awesome. Plus I like fighting next to them, so if they start taking damage I can quickly re-gain the arrgo. If a mage is nuking people from far behind me I hate having to run back and save them if they gain arrgo

Hunters: Another meh class. JUST BECAUSE YOU HAVE A GUN/BOW DOES NOT MEAN YOU PULL OMG.

Mages: They provide great DPS, and I rarely run into stupid mages. Plus poly can be a great tool in certain instances

Shamans: I haven't grouped with many Shamans actually. I've done stuff with Etoilet's shaman, which was a DPS monster lol. Are they good healers?

Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on February 18, 2008, 11:43:46 AM
Most mages are they spec they are because they feel the most comfortable with it, but i've seen more than a few strange Mages since starting mine.

Case #1: The lone mage wandering Outlands with Amplify Magic cast on himself.
Case #2: Frost Spec 70 Alliance mage decides to instead spam Arcane Nova in a group.

I mean not all of every class are geniuses, but MOST mages on my server operate solo and group up when they need to. As a class with good DPS and great utility we dont really NEED other players, and most PVP mages skip the bulk of the group quest crap.

Hunters: tend to be the most cocky and loud.
Rogues: dont talk much
Paladins: at least horde side are fairly humble, but they're everywhere.
Warlocks: seem to be aware that their class is OP but dont hesistate to brag.
Shamans: Quiet and generally have my respect. Shamans are a lot of work.
Druids: The most friendly in PVP and PVE so far. I rarely have issues with the fun luvin druids.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 18, 2008, 11:47:04 AM
Yeah Druids are cool. :bow

I never have problems with warlocks. They seem to just do their business and leave. I always get them confused with mages lol
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on February 18, 2008, 11:51:33 AM
well this is horde side and on Muradin, im sure results vary
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 18, 2008, 12:08:14 PM
Ok I'm gonna get on right now. The name is Azelion

Rambow right?
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on February 18, 2008, 12:19:07 PM
phoenix: add my other character sheepmelol if you havent, its my boring balance druid. Gonna be so boring till 40. Ever so boring. I shoulda gone feral till 40 and respec but ive already committed in gear nooessssssssssss
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: cubicle47b on February 18, 2008, 12:22:17 PM
Did you get to lvl  39 from lvl 1 since last Monday?

Yes.  On Saturday I was averaging a level every 2 hours (low to mid 30's).
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on February 18, 2008, 12:25:54 PM
I love how they adjusted kill exp pre-30 and quest exp post-30
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: cubicle47b on February 18, 2008, 12:28:49 PM
Yeah, I actually killed faster on my paladin during those levels and I'm still 50% faster on my mage.  I'm hoping the 50's are 4 hour levels.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Eric P on February 18, 2008, 12:32:26 PM
on second thought, i'm going to just transfer my belf hunter over to maur.  i rather like her and don't want to grind out yet another starting zone
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: cubicle47b on February 18, 2008, 12:38:46 PM
Everyone download this mod.  It is one of the most useful leveling mods in the game.  It basically shows you your quests on the map.  There are icons for the places you complete quest requirements (with a description of what to kill to get what, etc, when you mouse over), icons for where you turn them in, and it draws what it considers to be an optimal line telling you how to chain them (I don't use this part of it).

http://wow.curse.com/downloads/details/9924/
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Eric P on February 18, 2008, 01:03:52 PM
i just use cosmos.  it's what i've used since post beta

i don't really know any better
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: cubicle47b on February 18, 2008, 01:05:19 PM
Quartz cast bar shows your swing timer along with your target's buffs/debuffs related to you and your current latency for /stopcasting macros.  It's pretty amazing.

edit: I use Bartender 3, sRaidFrames, ag Unit Frames, Titan Panel, Quartz, Questhelper, and Clique.  There are a few others that I don't remember the names of like bag mods and a mod that makes my minimap square.  Oh, and DamageMeters.  At any level it's an important feedback mod.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Eric P on February 18, 2008, 01:10:44 PM
looking at auctioneer it's like a stat crunchers wet dream

Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on February 18, 2008, 01:32:19 PM
Cubicle: What path are you going for your mage? Elemental/Deep Fire Scorch+Fireblast makes wands useless and grinding pretty stupid fast.

I dont really use any mods since I got to 70 without one, using one now seems alien.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Van Cruncheon on February 18, 2008, 02:06:02 PM
no mods here, either

i was cleanin' up pretty good in 30-39 arathi basin this weekend, got 400-ish honor and a buttload of marks so's i can get an awesome pair of boots that up my run speed and int/stam. god, alliance is FUCKING AWFUL -- it was all hunters, we were often outnumbered 2-1 (4-1 as MAF remarked, 'cuz of the pets lol), and we'd STILL hold all 5 bases. on top of that, i am probably the most useless class at my level -- a fledgling shadow priest without shadowform -- and i still placed in the top third. lol alliance nubs. go back to raiding, fagbags :punch
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Van Cruncheon on February 18, 2008, 02:10:04 PM
actually, now that i think about it, placing in the top 1/3rd isn't all that good -- it means i was one of the weakest horde players, since ALL of them were the top one-third :'(

oh well, still better than them 39 alliance hunters, yay me?

spoiler (click to show/hide)
no, not yay me :gloomy
[close]
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: cubicle47b on February 18, 2008, 02:28:19 PM
Cubicle: What path are you going for your mage? Elemental/Deep Fire Scorch+Fireblast makes wands useless and grinding pretty stupid fast.

I dont really use any mods since I got to 70 without one, using one now seems alien.

I'm leveling frost.  I like the control over a battle it gives me and the damage with 3/3 frostbite, 5/5 shatter, and 5/5 ice shards is decent now.  I'd like to try some AoE spots but I don't want to do it fulltime and it requires a build change.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 18, 2008, 02:53:39 PM
Just got to lv20 pretty quickly. I'm about to download that mod right now :bow
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Fragamemnon on February 18, 2008, 03:03:14 PM
we need a "it's AV weekend WHAT DID YOU BUY" thread. I got some digusting amount of honor because alliance always wins on the Nightfall cluster and my wife and I decided that the family that catasses together on a friday night stays together.

I have enough honor for the following now, just need EOTS marks which is Bad News Bears since Alliance never wins that BG on my server:

Vindicator's Plate Greaves (http://www.wowhead.com/?item=33812)
Vindicator's Band of Triumph (http://www.wowhead.com/?item=33919)

Next up getting the bracers.

I also am friendly with the Netherwing duders in SMV, so my wife and I are doing the daily quests there for CASH MONEY and eventually get a dragon.

We did Karazhan this weekend, got the shield off nightbane and the 2.4 badge gear for tanks is SMOKIN' so I am going to start stockpiling now. 10 man raids aren't nearly as awful as the old 40 man stuff, though I did one 25 man (Gruul's Lair) and I swear I'll never step foot in those things again, no matter how much free loot gets shoved in my face.

I run auctioneer and use it to save time listing the stuff I gather (I mine/skin as my two tradeskills) and to ensure that whatever I buy is decently priced. Get aucitioneer advanced, it's a ton better.

As for the rest of my UI, off the top of my head:

oRA2, ag UnitFrames, Capping (shows timers for AB/AV tower/flag caps) , Bigwigs+Littlewigs (for 5 man boss warnings), Omen, Bartender 3, Autobar, CooldownCount, Parrot, FuBar+3 million plugins, Cartographer+Data+Routes for sick mining/herb money, Baggins, EkBuffBars, and some other crap I don't remember. I'll post a screenie later.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: cubicle47b on February 18, 2008, 03:09:51 PM
Gruul's Lair is just an awful zone although HKM is an interesting enough fight.  Kara is just a brilliant zone (Aran :bow).
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on February 18, 2008, 03:23:07 PM
we need a "it's AV weekend WHAT DID YOU BUY" thread. I got some digusting amount of honor because alliance always wins on the Nightfall cluster and my wife and I decided that the family that catasses together on a friday night stays together.

I have enough honor for the following now, just need EOTS marks which is Bad News Bears since Alliance never wins that BG on my server:

Vindicator's Plate Greaves (http://www.wowhead.com/?item=33812)
Vindicator's Band of Triumph (http://www.wowhead.com/?item=33919)

Next up getting the bracers.

I also am friendly with the Netherwing duders in SMV, so my wife and I are doing the daily quests there for CASH MONEY and eventually get a dragon.

We did Karazhan this weekend, got the shield off nightbane and the 2.4 badge gear for tanks is SMOKIN' so I am going to start stockpiling now. 10 man raids aren't nearly as awful as the old 40 man stuff, though I did one 25 man (Gruul's Lair) and I swear I'll never step foot in those things again, no matter how much free loot gets shoved in my face.

I run auctioneer and use it to save time listing the stuff I gather (I mine/skin as my two tradeskills) and to ensure that whatever I buy is decently priced. Get aucitioneer advanced, it's a ton better.

As for the rest of my UI, off the top of my head:

oRA2, ag UnitFrames, Capping (shows timers for AB/AV tower/flag caps) , Bigwigs+Littlewigs (for 5 man boss warnings), Omen, Bartender 3, Autobar, CooldownCount, Parrot, FuBar+3 million plugins, Cartographer+Data+Routes for sick mining/herb money, Baggins, EkBuffBars, and some other crap I don't remember. I'll post a screenie later.

I got these:
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=33914

Bout time too, those old imbued netherweave boots were getting ripe. Current character:

http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Muradin&n=Vynitha

Still need to get:
RINGS
BRACERS
BELT
TRINKETS
PANTS

I keep putting off the WSG mark items cause well...WSG :(
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on February 18, 2008, 03:24:58 PM
Cubicle: What path are you going for your mage? Elemental/Deep Fire Scorch+Fireblast makes wands useless and grinding pretty stupid fast.

I dont really use any mods since I got to 70 without one, using one now seems alien.

I'm leveling frost.  I like the control over a battle it gives me and the damage with 3/3 frostbite, 5/5 shatter, and 5/5 ice shards is decent now.  I'd like to try some AoE spots but I don't want to do it fulltime and it requires a build change.

I wont argue against frost, hard to really, but Deep Fire/Elemental is viable in everything except Arena these days, so dont let the groupies tell you otherwise if youre itching for somethin different!
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Fragamemnon on February 18, 2008, 03:35:55 PM
Gruul's Lair is just an awful zone although HKM is an interesting enough fight.  Kara is just a brilliant zone (Aran :bow).

Kara is really long if you are doing a full clear in one day with a mix of geared/undergeared people like we normally do. I wish they had broken it up into two more bitesize places.

Aran is fun though, especially as melee since you pretty much only have to run out when the bigwigs bar says arcane explosion.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: cubicle47b on February 18, 2008, 05:16:46 PM
We'd usually go Attumen, Moroes, Opera, Curator, Aran, Chess, Prince and then call it a day and come back later.  I agree that it's a long clear but it was the raid zone I had the most fun learning (never did Naxx) and still enjoy clearing it every once in a while.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 18, 2008, 05:24:16 PM
That quest mod is AWESOME. I breezed through about 4 quests I had forgotten about in about 40 minutes. Then I did Wailing Caverns for the first time and got a bunch of stuff. I wound up getting a badass shield and a blue mace, which seems me more than a coincidence: is Azelion destined to go protection spec?  :o

Right now I'm retribution, and was thinking about doing a bit of holy too. I might mix prot and holy now
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: cubicle47b on February 18, 2008, 06:04:53 PM
PD, go all Ret until 40.  If you want to change at that point, go for it, but before then you're crazy.  With a good 2 hander and seal of command you can fly through levels until your mid to late 30's.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Eric P on February 18, 2008, 06:32:47 PM
new muradin character to join you all

Fantomas - Belf hunter LvL 21
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on February 18, 2008, 06:34:49 PM
THE EVILBORE WOWATHON HAS BEGUN MUHAHAHAHAH
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Van Cruncheon on February 18, 2008, 07:21:57 PM
me: http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Muradin&n=Medeane

Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Eric P on February 18, 2008, 10:55:32 PM
just set a limit for yourself and stick to it

Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on February 18, 2008, 10:56:01 PM
I play wow as much as I play games, I still go out, make it to work, blah whatever, just another hobby
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on February 19, 2008, 01:15:55 AM
Im never prepared for coming across someone ACTUALLY new to WoW. Tonight I helped Prole and some other Horde warlock out. we finished and I told him I couldd port them to shat and he's like ok, so I open a portal.

Prole goes through, so I look at the warlock and im like ok hop in! I then watch him make three failed attempts to physically jump into the portal. I then explain right click, then I ask the question.

"You dont have the expansion do you"

"I think I need the expansion"

So I escorted him out. He was a good enough sport about all of it, but I thought it was funny.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Van Cruncheon on February 19, 2008, 01:57:49 AM
he's now my best friend :'(
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Van Cruncheon on February 19, 2008, 02:27:04 AM
ding 36 loads o' news spells
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on February 19, 2008, 03:15:04 AM
lol POOR. Ill send you spell money if you need it, but its kinda yer mount money till I get a good day to grind with Vynitha
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Van Cruncheon on February 19, 2008, 04:13:39 AM
nah, i had plenty of gold thanks to a few successful auctions -- still have 12g left over. thanks, though!
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Eric P on February 19, 2008, 08:35:47 AM
last night i found a pug and we rank SFK twice.  the warrior was a greedy, greedy, greedy fuck.  kept skinning everything after repeated requests to not and would "need" roll anything that wasn't cloth.  met a great mage/priest combo though.  very good at what they do.  ended up going to Hillsbrad after that.

lvl 23 now.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: etiolate on February 19, 2008, 09:02:22 AM
I never get my pallies past lvl 20. I even specced ret and didn't like it. I think I'd like prot though. I love prot pally tanks, but they become 3rd banana when you hit raiding unfortunately.

My old guildmates want me to transfer to Korgath or at least one of my 70s to Korgath and start raiding there. Some of them are already there doing Black Temple stuff and wearing tier 6, but raiding life just doesn't interest me anymore.  It'll be sad to see them go, because this server BLOWS and more of the good alliance population transfers off due to the population imbalance getting way out of hand. I don't see why Blizzard doesn't close new player creations on one side when population difference gets past 60-40.   

I mean it is so bad, that I don't play my druid at all unless its a weekly 5v5 for some arena points or someone needs leatherworking.  Every time I log on to my druid and talk in like general ro trade chat, I get recognized and tons of whispers because alliance is that desperate for geared non-distinguished mentally-challenged players. Yesterday I log on to make someone some crafting items, I get called out on trade chat by people I don't even know. Today I log on to my druid for 5v5 and trade chat starts chanting "EMPTY WHERE THE FUCK YOU BEEN"/ Then I get whispers from people, asking for arena team joins or whatever, then my old guild whispers me about the transfer offer and has me join a vent for a meeting on the thing. Nobody knows I still play because I hide on my alts and level them to 70.

Tonight I go into a Durnholde zerg run, healing as elemental shaman, but I knew the people and knew they were geared.  They didn't know who I was. Fifteen minutes they ask me to join their guild, so I say I can't because I am GM of my guild. They say "ironchefz is in your guild dude, bring ironchef with you" and I am like.. I am ironchef. So they ask to merge my guild. I say I am also Emptybox and they go WTF.

It's not that I am awesome, it is just things are so desperate that I have three characters worth recruiting and outside of my druid are averagely geared, but the selection is so few on alliance side that my value is inflated. This is what has basically killed every major alliance guild on my server. Just not enough people to raid, not enough decent 70s for more than one major guild at a time and right now that guild is a guild I could get into, and have plenty of friends who would get me in or try to get me to join, but I don't want to frikken raid anything but 10man. Nor do I want to pay to transfer to raid.

ANYWAYS

PD, I've been saving on to some tanking greens that I don't know if you need or not, but remind me if you log on.

Also, I got my Glad War Staff on my lock from AV weekend, my Shaman has about 12k honor right now building up to buy stuff when she hits 70 and my druid is a week away from arena S3 headpiece to replace my t4 PVE headpiece.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: cubicle47b on February 19, 2008, 12:29:17 PM
Cubicle, is there any way to drag the swing timers and other stuff through quartz?  I try setting the position to "high" or "low" or "free" but I can't get it to where I want it.

Any ideas?  I'd like to have it preferably under my health/mana bar, but at the very least centered somewhat.  It's kinda off-center for me now.

I always leave it attached to my casting bar so no idea.  Sorry.


There's my armory link.  Fear for my health and sanity as I powerlevel my character -
http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Khaz+Modan&n=Serisen

Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Eric P on February 19, 2008, 01:22:55 PM
A warrior with skinning as a profession?  He IS a greedy fuck.

Anywho, I just started doing skinning with my Druid and am not sure of the proper etiquette when in groups.  Should skinners take turns skinning, or should they roll?  Truth be told, I'd probably screw up at first and start skinning everything outta habit.  Don't let me be that guy.

in groups i always try to find out who is skinning then setting up a rotation
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Van Cruncheon on February 19, 2008, 04:00:50 PM
MAF's guild is pretty good from the sounds of it -- it's <Hells Hounds>, i think.

Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Eric P on February 19, 2008, 04:08:30 PM
i'm not in a guild, but wouldn't mind being in a casual one, if only because it's easier to talk to people like that then trying to manage a ton of whispers.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Eric P on February 19, 2008, 04:18:53 PM
indeed

and my pet's name is robur

my naming conventions are after obscure french literary villains.

mwahahahahaha (ubernerd)

Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 19, 2008, 04:28:25 PM
Yeah I prefer guilds where people TALK and casually do stuff, like instances or even quests.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 19, 2008, 04:35:17 PM
I forgot the name of my guild on that server. I'll leave it to join whichever one you guys are in
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Van Cruncheon on February 19, 2008, 04:39:08 PM
i'm gonna scrape together a charter for a guild named either <The Welfare Epics> or <lol wut>.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 19, 2008, 04:39:31 PM
Welfare Epics FTW
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Van Cruncheon on February 19, 2008, 04:47:53 PM
maf's gonna front me the gold for a charter tonight, and i'll have you ratbag hippies sign it, along with any other schlubs i can bribe.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Van Cruncheon on February 19, 2008, 04:50:08 PM
it will be named "The Welfare Epics", then, and there will be no stupid tabard. tabards are for icks and dulls.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: T234 on February 19, 2008, 04:51:30 PM
Prole plz help me on the OT side. Larry Wall is beating me in the face again.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on February 19, 2008, 04:58:02 PM
Welfare Epics are actually PVP rewards. PVE Raiders hate the fact that PVPers get such powerful gear and apparently believe that we are sitting on our thumbs in PVP.

ProTip: PVP Gear sux for PVE, and PVE gear isn't good for PVP till the upper tiers. BOBOBOBOOBOBOBOBO shaddup
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Fragamemnon on February 19, 2008, 05:06:13 PM
ProTip: PVP Gear sux for PVE, and PVE gear isn't good for PVP till the upper tiers. BOBOBOBOOBOBOBOBO shaddup

PvP gear can actually be quite decent for PvE. Gladiator weapons are very good upgrades over 70s blue dungeon loot ( 20 dps difference in a 1H mace, for example), and some of the armor/jewelry isn't bad either. This is more true for melee than casters/healers though-you duders need your spell hit and healers need good mana regen, which PvP gear is not good at.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on February 19, 2008, 05:57:36 PM
Caster PVP Gear is all about dat dem der STAM and Resilience. I've had to use sockets for int boosting gems to compensate. Am sad total.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 19, 2008, 07:42:39 PM
Once again: Quest map mod FTW :bow

I'm almost to lv66 with Goinio. Plus I got a crap ton of goodies today
http://thottbot.com/i28031
http://thottbot.com/i25607

Too bad I won't be able to play until tomorrow dammit

Basically I'm foaming to get to lv66 so I'll be eligible to do the Durn quest in Nagrand, and get this:
http://thottbot.com/i25772   :o

Damn the sword's speed is meh but I still want it :bow
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: cubicle47b on February 19, 2008, 07:57:56 PM
The new Dustwallow Marsh quests add a lot to the region and oh god the XP.  I played for 40 minutes during lunch and averaged 51.5K xp/hour during that time.  I had rested xp but still.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Van Cruncheon on February 19, 2008, 10:29:52 PM
i got a charter; now to bribe some 'mo's to sign it
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on February 19, 2008, 11:29:09 PM
Started a rogue alt for the evilbore guild yey
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Eric P on February 20, 2008, 01:13:33 AM
i could never get into rogues.  they required far too much patience for me to play
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Van Cruncheon on February 20, 2008, 01:37:58 AM
man, NO-ONE will sign my charter, even for 2g each! WHY DO THEY HATE THE TROOPS
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on February 20, 2008, 02:48:09 AM
My guild knows I dont like doing PVE stuff so they just have the warlock summmon me when they get to the boss lol.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Eric P on February 20, 2008, 09:13:44 AM
man, NO-ONE will sign my charter, even for 2g each! WHY DO THEY HATE THE TROOPS

i'll sign on tonight.  i and some people are running BFD tonight.  the priest/mage combo that ran SFK with me.

if you like, i can ask if they'll sign the charter.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Van Cruncheon on February 20, 2008, 11:25:49 AM
that would rule.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Van Cruncheon on February 20, 2008, 11:37:06 AM
send me yer gold before you do, and i'll send you a DRINKY CROW PRIZE PACK
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Eric P on February 20, 2008, 11:37:48 AM
delete and send me your gold

edit: damn you drinky
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 20, 2008, 11:46:46 AM
omg gold  :o
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on February 20, 2008, 11:53:58 AM
Forg if youre gonna do that sell the 70 warrior on ebay, you'll get a good chunk depending on gear. Might as well make some money.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on February 20, 2008, 11:55:27 AM
:drudge account selling :drudge
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on February 20, 2008, 11:56:44 AM
Haha it happens so often I wasnt aware it was illegal
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on February 20, 2008, 12:00:32 PM
I wouldnt sell, apparently its a big NO NO. Why can you just go to blizzards website and shut off your account? Thats what I used to do when I took a break. Plus even if you give it to someone im sure blizzard will assume the worst and suggest money was exchanged anyway. Best not to go down that road
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Eric P on February 20, 2008, 12:40:22 PM
but you can do a paid transfer to another account, can't you?

i was reading about that this past weekend when i joined you all
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on February 20, 2008, 01:19:48 PM
Eric P: That I dunno

My favorite warrior name is still NOTTHEFACE
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on February 20, 2008, 01:34:19 PM
hell I can TAKE your 70 warrior if its legit and it helps you get your life back in order, just not sure how kosher it is. Like good food, throwing away a 70 warrior seems bad. Cant you just close your account on the website, that should be enough to deter you right?
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Eric P on February 20, 2008, 01:37:14 PM
give me your username and password and i'll make certain you don't use it
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Eric P on February 20, 2008, 01:46:25 PM
wait for us to get a vent server then you can talk to us in REAL TIME
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on February 20, 2008, 02:20:31 PM
Yeah I dont really WANT a part of it, so Eric P is your guy. There's too many murky rules about characters and accounts id rather not chance it.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Eric P on February 20, 2008, 02:30:59 PM
i'm going to change the password for now and will do something else with the account later.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: trh on February 20, 2008, 03:39:34 PM
i know the feeling, last time i activated the 10 day resurrection trial i ended up spending on an average like 8 hours per day. burned out completely and i didn't really feel like going for a whole month... but i'll be back the 21st march for another 10 days. :o :'( :angel
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 20, 2008, 07:19:05 PM
Under normal circumstances I'm able to play for a good deal of time without compromising real life stuff. I procrastinate with or without WoW so it's no big deal.

Today I did Sethekk Halls and omg I failed so much. Everything started out so well too. There were two lv70s in the group, including a badass mage - and I was able to hold arrgo rather easily despite being the lowest level (lv66) in the group. Once we got to the final boss though...damn. He'd do this arcane attack, so in order to avoid it you'd have to hide behind these pillars right. Every fucking time he got finished with that attack he'd dive at the healer (lv70 druid) and I'd run over trying to save him. No matter how many sunders/shield slams/devastate/etc I did he'd keep running for the healer at that point. We wiped 3 times, maybe 4. And when we finally did beat him the healer was dead - I told everyone not to loot the body until he got back, but our rogue did it anyway.

Damn I felt sorry for the healer; the stuff he wanted dropped off the boss too. I told him it was all my fault afterward and he was cool about it. I'm not going back there for awhile  :lol  :'(
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on February 20, 2008, 08:18:13 PM
I just stop playing when I have to. WoW just takes up the time id normally spend with all the games I own that I dont play ;)

PD: I was in Sethekk Halls last night I think. They got to the last boss and wiped so they ran out and summoned me in to DPS the fuck outta the guy. Once you get his pattern down you can LOL as 3200 damage pyroblasts hit him in the face.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Van Cruncheon on February 20, 2008, 10:59:11 PM
I'm going to have to never read this thread again. So many tears I'll shed.

And Medeane, I'll never forget Barrens chat and our unrelenting pursuit of true patriots.  America RemembersTM and I will pray to our awesome god that the peasants of Azeroth will learn to embrace WAR.  Godspeed.  You deserve a medal.





:cryingeagle we have lost a patriot and a comrade, america :cryingeagle
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: lordmaji on February 20, 2008, 11:52:13 PM
I'm going to have to never read this thread again. So many tears I'll shed.

And Medeane, I'll never forget Barrens chat and our unrelenting pursuit of true patriots.  America RemembersTM and I will pray to our awesome god that the peasants of Azeroth will learn to embrace WAR.  Godspeed.  You deserve a medal.





:cryingeagle we have lost a patriot and a comrade, america :cryingeagle

I missed out on all the true America patriot fun! :(

God Bless America!
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 21, 2008, 01:12:50 AM
I just stop playing when I have to. WoW just takes up the time id normally spend with all the games I own that I dont play ;)

PD: I was in Sethekk Halls last night I think. They got to the last boss and wiped so they ran out and summoned me in to DPS the fuck outta the guy. Once you get his pattern down you can LOL as 3200 damage pyroblasts hit him in the face.

I made sure to stay as close as possible to the healer the time we won; I'll have to take on the boss again to get his pattern down, but if you fight near a pillar it's MUCH easier.

I'm gonna stick to Underbog/Slave Pens/etc for now though.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on February 21, 2008, 01:19:35 AM
Yeah I can blink behind pillars lol
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: lordmaji on February 21, 2008, 09:12:57 AM
Buy Quality.  Buy American.

:bow

FA... stay true to the red white and blue.

Amen!
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 21, 2008, 10:37:00 AM
blink lol. drarves are so SLOW  :-\
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on February 21, 2008, 11:26:03 AM
I think it also has more to do with you tanking and being the player the furthest distance from a pillar lol.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 21, 2008, 11:53:01 AM
Yeah. The boss loved to teleport and sheep me

http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Ravenholdt&n=Goinio

I'm working on my blacksmithing today lol. I got to lv300 and now I really want to get to lv330 so I can start making REAL armor. Too bad all the high level stuff binds once it's made, which makes NO sense. What's the point of being an armorsmith if you can't sell your best stuff to other players
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on February 21, 2008, 11:55:22 AM
all the trade skills are designed to lose you money endgame noes :(
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 21, 2008, 12:02:02 PM
That's a huge bummer. Another beef about being a blacksmith: not being able to repair your own armor, and other player's armor as well...makes no sense. I hate being in groups with someone who dies once and is like "whoops my armor is all red now gotta hearth to SW lol." UGGHH fix your armor before coming to an instance. But if blacksmiths could fix it that wouldn't be a problem.

Once I get to lv330 I'm going to make this
http://thottbot.com/i30074

:bow
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Fragamemnon on February 21, 2008, 12:49:08 PM
Yeah. The boss loved to teleport and sheep me

http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Ravenholdt&n=Goinio

I'm working on my blacksmithing today lol. I got to lv300 and now I really want to get to lv330 so I can start making REAL armor. Too bad all the high level stuff binds once it's made, which makes NO sense. What's the point of being an armorsmith if you can't sell your best stuff to other players

It's a perk for leveling the tradeskill, which in the case of Blacksmithing is very expensive.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 21, 2008, 02:53:44 PM
I'm at lv329 woot. One more and I'm cruising to awesome armor for ME. But damn I've wasted so much gold today

Just finished Auchenai Crypts
(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e86/PhoenixDark1/tank1.jpg)

We got NO drops from mobs. I've never seen that happen. And all the boss drops were meh, at least to me (mail stuff, cloth, etc). I doubt I'll come back

We wiped a couple times mainly due to not knowing the instance at all. But overall it was pretty easy, plus we had another badass lv70 mage
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 21, 2008, 03:13:16 PM
They are rather noobish according to most, but it works for me  :lol

woot lv331 blacksmith. All I need is a couple more primal earths and I'll have mah armor
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: lordmaji on February 21, 2008, 03:23:28 PM
They are rather noobish according to most, but it works for me  :lol

woot lv331 blacksmith. All I need is a couple more primal earths and I'll have mah armor

That's how I have mine setup PD.

Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: lordmaji on February 21, 2008, 03:51:25 PM
For 1, the bottom left action bar is static regardless of your stance.  You should focus on having abilities that transfer across all stances or else you wind up wasting space on there with abilities you can't use.

You also want to focus on making most of your commands accessible with your left hand (especially commands that you would use more often than every 30 minutes).  This frees your right hand from having to move away from the mouse to hit the keyboard or from having to overstretch your left hand to reach keys past the #6.

Also...ew...F buttons?  Those are too far away for me.  I'd use 1-6 for your main commands for each stance, and Shift+1-Shift+6 for commands that translate across each stance.  I also set hot keys for shift a-s-d-f-space bar and a few others that are close to the left-handed home keys to make sure all of my skills are being represented in reachable hotkeys.  It'd be faster to click on some of your skills than use a hot key the way you have it set up.

Sucks for PVE and is completely uncalled for in PVP.
:maf

:lol :lol jesus christ man. :lol
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 21, 2008, 04:32:36 PM
1-5 is where I keep the spells I use the most, especially Devastate/Shield Block/Revenge. I have big hands so using the f buttons is easier than holding down shift for me; out of those, the main ones I use are F1-F4.

On the top left I've got that question mark, which is a tab macro. It's much easier just clicking that than having to push the tab button along with all the others. I DO need to fix my hot key set up, but the placement of the first four will most likely stay


I got this from the Durn quest in Nagrand
http://thottbot.com/i25772

And I made this
http://thottbot.com/i30074

Today was a good day :bow
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on February 21, 2008, 04:52:17 PM
I wanna play right now. I wanna kill sum scrub rogues in EotS like I did last night. Worst 70 rogues ive ever seen. Oh god and the HUNTERS. I swear half the time they dont even pull out a melee weapon they just spin in place.

How to kill bad Hunters as Mage:

BLINK LOL CANT SHOOT ME
FROST NOVA
ICE LANCE TILL NOVA BREAKS
OMG FIREBLAST OMG CRIT
OMG DRAGONS BREATH LULZ
LOL AT PET
FROST NOVA WHUT?
ICE LANCE ICE LANCE
HA HA HA BLAST WAVE
OH SHITZ FIREBLAST
ICE NOVA LULZ ICE LANCE ICE LANCE

If the fight goes long Ice Block till DB and BlastWave come back then BAM LOL DPS.  You really dont even need to sheep the pet with so much burst dps and cc at yer command. Really the only class I fear are Rogues, cause Cheat Death is a pain the ASS
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: lordmaji on February 21, 2008, 05:12:14 PM
I think I made a terrible mistake.  :(

No turning back now :(

:(

Start a new char w/ me!
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on February 21, 2008, 05:23:30 PM
If only you could control yourself!
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: trh on February 21, 2008, 05:28:02 PM
FA what did you do? I'm not following this very well.

And during my time as a warrior I used 1-3, Q, E, R, F, G, Z, X, C, V and shift/ctrl/shift+ctrl variations for all of them.. :-[
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Eric P on February 21, 2008, 05:55:56 PM
I gave my account to a wonderful, sexy person.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v516/ericprva/jitcrunchaspx.jpg)
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 21, 2008, 10:36:18 PM
TT?

You could just download the 10 day trial and then get a gamer card after the trial time is up
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 21, 2008, 10:46:20 PM
You have to upgrade the trial before getting BC though, iirc. Although I guess you could get the trial than add a gamer card, then download BC
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Eric P on February 21, 2008, 11:00:26 PM
wow client
http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/downloads/wowclient-download.html

prole, how's that guild coming?  i have two competent people to bring in.

in other news

PANTSUIT
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v516/ericprva/fantopantsuit.jpg)
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Van Cruncheon on February 21, 2008, 11:18:26 PM
i have three signatures. i need 6 more! catch me when i'm on, usually between 8-10 pm pst
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Eric P on February 21, 2008, 11:19:38 PM
wow client
http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/downloads/wowclient-download.html

Full game right? Not some gimpy bullshit that will make me download the full game right?

think so

dunno

i went and bought it on dvd when i lost my copy
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: etiolate on February 22, 2008, 06:08:39 AM
all the trade skills are designed to lose you money endgame noes :(

My herb/alchemy buds make nice gold transmuting gems and primals or making flasks and selling them high to raiders.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Eric P on February 22, 2008, 08:42:46 AM
i have three signatures. i need 6 more! catch me when i'm on, usually between 8-10 pm pst

i don't think i know your game name
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Van Cruncheon on February 22, 2008, 12:04:14 PM
medeane
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Eric P on February 22, 2008, 12:37:14 PM
ok, i'll add you. 

yeah, they're damn competent.  last night we ran BFD with a distinguished mentally-challenged fellow hunter and a pally who quit half way in and we still managed to make it out just fine.  Though i think i saw my first ever case of huntardism.

he would use concussion shot for no reason, would forget to use his pet, would constantly not control his aggro so he ended up melee the whole time.  couldn't use ice traps and would "need" roll EVERYTHING.  it got so bad the party leader had to set master looting.

you know it's bad when you and the other members of the party were just whispering mocking the other people.  they were contemplating starting their own guild, but they'd have to find ten competent people first.  I told them about you all and they seem down, but we just have to be on when Drinky is on
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 22, 2008, 01:13:57 PM
I'm currently downloading WoW on one of the computers at my parents house so I should be on more. I'm down for joining this guild

Although I must say I'm dying to use all my new goodies with Goinio, in an instance or something  :hyper
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Eric P on February 22, 2008, 01:27:12 PM
instances rule

i used to hate them but i think it's because i was just playing with the wrong people

now that i have good stable people, they're a lot of fun
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 22, 2008, 01:43:57 PM
Definitely. Instances are really what got me hooked to the game. I had so much fun doing Deadmines over and over again, meeting great people, bragging, etc. So many people were doing that instance, all trying to kill VC lol. Back then I don't remember being much of a tank, I was instead just having a bunch of fun.

On MAF's service I notice no one really does Deadmines which sucks; there were always lots of horde players around the instance when I did it with Goinio.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Eric P on February 22, 2008, 05:35:04 PM
click the change email confirmation link
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Eric P on February 22, 2008, 05:37:09 PM
good news

it's out of your hands

now go outside  or some shit
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Eric P on February 22, 2008, 06:53:15 PM
jesus, where do you live kalamazoo?

*checks wow account*

wow i guess you do
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Eric P on February 22, 2008, 08:33:56 PM
nvm
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Eric P on February 22, 2008, 09:43:56 PM
THAT IS NOT ALL I GOT FROM YOUR WOW ACCOUNT :tophat
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 22, 2008, 10:06:16 PM
Hm so I downloaded the game onto a computer at my parents' house and when I tried to play it crashed after about 5 minutes. I tried a couple more times with the same result. The first time it crashed I got an error result; while I don't remember exactly what it said, I'm pretty sure it looked something like this (found this through google):

ERROR #132 (0x85100084)
Program:        C:\Program Files\World of Warcraft\WoW.exe
Exception:      0xC0000005 (ACCESS_VIOLATION) at 0023:557102CD

EAX=00000000  EBX=55BDFCA8  ECX=00000000  EDX=55BDFBB8  ESI=5E320308
EDI=00000000  EBP=55BDFC08  ESP=55BDFB9C  EIP=557102CD  FLG=00010212
CS =0023      DS =002B      ES =002B      SS =002B      FS =005B      GS=0063

Since the first crash all I get is a black flashing screen.

Anyone know what's up? I'm looking it on on Google as well
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Van Cruncheon on February 22, 2008, 10:08:15 PM
it's a directx issue. reinstall directx 9.0c or later.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 22, 2008, 10:10:04 PM
help me oh computer genius :bow
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Van Cruncheon on February 22, 2008, 10:11:01 PM
sorry, i thought it was directsound, but that was a different error. this is actually a nvidia driver x directx issue.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Van Cruncheon on February 22, 2008, 10:12:01 PM
hm, wrong again: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=10021053&postId=100301129&sid=1

could be ANYTHING, from directx to bogus RAM. yikes!
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 22, 2008, 10:18:23 PM
Looking at that link and thinking about to an earlier problem I had, I'm thinking this had to do with the 3D acceleration. I'm going to download DirectX 9.0 and see what happens
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 22, 2008, 11:12:07 PM
Yup, that seems to have fixed the problem; I played for more than 30 minutes without it crashing, although I wasn't confident enough to help a guy who was begging me to do Slave Pens with his group lol.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on February 24, 2008, 02:35:19 PM
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Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Van Cruncheon on February 24, 2008, 02:36:09 PM
 just ran sm library with a great pally -- awesome cc skills and could hold aggro perfectly, always stunned fleeing mobs et al -- and two of the DUMBEST FUCKING LOCKS EVER. they were always running their fuckin succubi around drawing aggro, and they'd roll need on leather/mail and 2h weapons the pally needed. the pally finally got pissed and kicked the worst offender out, and the other one kinda shaped up after that, but ARGH a normally one hour run strecthed into 2-and-a-half. i have never done more rezzes EVER in an instance run. (me and the pally never wiped once, although it got dicey when we had 3 chaplains + 3 monks on just us, fuckin' healing mobs. thanks, retardolocks.) i got my quest complete at least, although the warlocks made off with all the good cloth shit. grrr.

oh, and the pally asked if they had hunter alts, and one of them said YES -- it WAS pretty obvious that they were playin' their lock alts like hunters. arghdfsljgfdsl;jgfdas

oh, and the other classic moment: when the dumbest of the pair wiped, we sat around waiting for him to soulstone. finally, i got tired and rezzed him, and asked him Y NO SOULSTONE and he said "???????" ghkdhjl;gfdlkfghjdklsdghkdsfghlksdfhfdsklhgfsd

oh oh oh oh, and when we sat in the hall of antiquities or whatever, divvying up mana pots and moonberry juice, because neither of the locks BROUGHT ANY MANA REPLENISHMENT ITEMS wtf srsly wtf boom
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Van Cruncheon on February 24, 2008, 02:45:36 PM
in summation, i learned that a great pally and good support can save a doomed pug, and that HUNTARDEDNESS IS A WAY OF LIFE
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on February 24, 2008, 03:47:22 PM
haha ouch. I blew 200+ gold on major spell power chant ouch, stupid mat costs on our server
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Eric P on February 24, 2008, 03:51:36 PM
my awesome pally and priest continue to dominate instances.  we rolled through RFK twice underpowered.  we were down to three people at one point just rockin' shit.

our second pug was kind of tarded.  the hunter messed up and because of that we all wiped horribly.  i was having the worst luck with greed/need rolls though.  i think i ended up winning something awful.  it's kind of annoying to watch people win item after item after item.  oh well.  i'm still on track to have my mount money as soon as i hit 40
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on February 24, 2008, 04:04:51 PM
I played WSG for 2 hours to get my war kodo marks (collect em all!) and I just dominated WSG. Its amazing how obnoxious a high level mage can be ;)

I might do some quests or something now.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Van Cruncheon on February 24, 2008, 04:22:45 PM
eric, ping me if you need some shadow priest support -- i need to run sm again as well as rfk. i'll be on intermittently all day, finishin' up the grind to 39 and trying to get some gold
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 24, 2008, 04:33:26 PM
The problems came up again but I think I fixed it by running the game in "opengl" windowed hmp. More testing later

Prole: Pallys are indeed awesome. They've made me jealous soo many times
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Eric P on February 24, 2008, 05:53:05 PM
eric, ping me if you need some shadow priest support -- i need to run sm again as well as rfk. i'll be on intermittently all day, finishin' up the grind to 39 and trying to get some gold

ok. will do.

kind of bored right now so i'm going to make some salmon

yum
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Van Cruncheon on February 24, 2008, 11:48:23 PM
made 39, did some ab. 60K xp until 40 yay woo what lol
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: T234 on February 24, 2008, 11:55:09 PM
DRINKY CROW YOU WERE RIGHT READ THE OT REAL QUICK
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: cubicle47b on February 25, 2008, 04:29:54 AM
I'm averaging 70K xp/hr today (levels 54-59).  This quest XP is unreal.  I'm going to wait a week to start outlands as I'm going to level with a druid (currently 48) and paladin (39).
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Eric P on February 25, 2008, 09:44:35 AM
Ran RFK quite a bit this weekend.  I think four runs total.

Ended up with dual thornspikes.  rawr.  Considering I've only purchased the necklace for an early stat bump, i think i'm fairly well geared.

http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Muradin&n=Fantomas

my talent tree is a bit of a mess right now with two points in quick shots and one in ferocity.  I think I should have gone for the one in intimidation instead to give me more aggro control.

in instances i'm using my pet to essentially off tank and protect the magic users.  i've gotten really good at ice traps so fights are much easier for us (assuming someone doesn't AoE or something of that nature).  Financially I've got 80 plus gold.  my decision to take mining and skinning has paid off, i think as i'm well on my way to financial stability.  but then the question is what after i get my mount?  do i keep one and trade the other off for a crafting ability or keep just gathering?

Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on February 25, 2008, 11:09:38 AM
I'm averaging 70K xp/hr today (levels 54-59).  This quest XP is unreal.  I'm going to wait a week to start outlands as I'm going to level with a druid (currently 48) and paladin (39).

Outlands is stupid easy to level through these days lol. I started a hunter cause I like the Crab pet, going to go beast/survivalist. Too many ezmod range hunters out there.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on February 25, 2008, 02:49:00 PM
Jesus Hunters are easy mode for leveling. I made my hunter at 5 last night and its already level 14 lol.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Eric P on February 25, 2008, 02:53:30 PM
 super easy to level with a hunter.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on February 25, 2008, 02:56:44 PM
Yeah im kinda stunned. Kinda nice tho since being a 70 mage so long has made me intollerant of slow early game crap.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Eric P on February 25, 2008, 03:09:39 PM
the best thing bout hunter in my mind is the ability to go so much faster on foot with pathfinding (bonus 8% to speed when coupled with apsect of cheetah)

makes not having a mount much more convenient and you can use it indoors.

Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Fragamemnon on February 25, 2008, 03:41:27 PM
Got a couple of new tanking pieces this week, up to 14k armor/13.5k health unbuffed.

Fun fact for warriors:

Arms PvP >>> Prot PvP > Fury PvP in BGs. I had fun this warsong weekend as prot, makes for a great flag carrier if you don't have a druid around willing to run the thing.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on February 25, 2008, 03:45:28 PM
I picked a Corrupted Crab as my pet cause it looks cool, but aside from the Crabs the Draenei get with the thorns spell, there isn't a special 'Crab' ability which really blows. Its a pretty unpopular pet, but its defense isnt horrible so if I go Beast Mastery with some Survivalist I think I can make something that will work.

I still have to get boots/bracers/pants/rings for my mage, but I may Arena a bit as Fire Spec since according to some of the stuff I heard from people doing Arena in my guild, the lower levels of play are chock full of idiots, so I should do well enough for a time.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 25, 2008, 10:18:15 PM
Frag you're a tank? Lemme see your character :bow
http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Ravenholdt&n=Goinio

I repaired the game a bit earlier so I'll check if it's working in a bit. If not I'll just uninstall it and re-install
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Van Cruncheon on February 27, 2008, 02:38:11 AM
OMG LEVEL 40 SHADOWFORM CUMMMMMMM
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on February 27, 2008, 02:41:56 AM
screenshot or it didnt happen!
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Smooth Groove on February 27, 2008, 02:55:32 AM
(http://www.morearnings.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/05/wow-horde-level-59-1.jpg)

How the hell do you guys learn to play a game like this?  I get dizzy just from looking at all the icons. 
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on February 27, 2008, 02:56:49 AM
I dont use interface mods, standard is fine
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Smooth Groove on February 27, 2008, 02:58:32 AM
They actually allow you to mod stuff in WOW?  Couldn't that lead to possible cheating? 
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on February 27, 2008, 03:06:15 AM
nah its pretty strict
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Smooth Groove on February 27, 2008, 03:08:07 AM
My friend at Blizzard is in charge of the network infrastructure or some crap like that.  You think he has the power to give me a maxed out character?  I think he himself has 4 free accounts. 
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on February 27, 2008, 03:10:27 AM
he'd get in crazy trouble if he did that
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Smooth Groove on February 27, 2008, 03:12:16 AM
 :(

That's no way I could even get halfway to max level then. 
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Van Cruncheon on February 27, 2008, 03:23:40 AM
(http://i29.tinypic.com/2v0lwcg.jpg)

PROOF PAPANGUSES
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on February 27, 2008, 03:26:39 AM
omg 40!
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: cubicle47b on February 27, 2008, 03:29:18 AM
Blizzard provides a scripting language for the interface.

I use mods to provide me with a lot of information and shrink / move everything.  A nice clean center is important.  Obviously my paladin raid interface was involved but most of the time it's pretty straightforward.

My current mage interface (largely copied from one of my old ones and done in 5 minutes) -

(http://i26.tinypic.com/1zf78ci.jpg)
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on February 27, 2008, 03:33:27 AM
Mages Rule #1 on the side of Carl's car.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: cubicle47b on February 27, 2008, 03:56:34 AM
The best thing about being a mage is porting.  It makes questing so much faster as long as you're not in southern fucking Kalimdor.  I'm also working on a hunter (currently level 21) and they are distinguished mentally-challenged.  I kill same level mobs in 10 seconds with no downtime and solo'd the boss of the ghostlands (the 5 person quest).  Utterly ridiculous.  On my mage with my friend who was playing a paladin we failed and had to bring in a third.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on February 27, 2008, 10:59:05 AM
Yeah hunters are ezmode total. Mages are pretty convenient, but there's still a lot of skill involved in fights.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Eric P on February 27, 2008, 11:00:05 AM
gaming with a hunter becomes a sub-game of how high can you get your DPS per fight.

it's really arcade shooter mode
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on February 27, 2008, 01:49:12 PM
Yeah but druid pve is time consuming unless youre feral. Balance before 40 is SNORE
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Eric P on February 27, 2008, 02:10:52 PM
warrior was my first char as well

got it to 42 (the HARD way.  right out the launch gate) and then just gave up on it.  low dps, hard to tank, lots of repairs

the problems were numerous

Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on February 27, 2008, 02:40:40 PM
Arms Warrior is fast! lots of crits, lots of dps! wtf u talkin bout! I was almost always tops in PVP with my arms warrior dps at 39.

Hunter DPS is weaksauce. My mage can pyroblast well into the 3000s, fireblast or fireball into the 2200s, scorch into the 1600s
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on February 27, 2008, 02:53:40 PM
Well Warriors are a gear dependent class so thats kinda expected :p
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Smooth Groove on February 27, 2008, 02:55:54 PM
(http://www.therossman.com/digest/howto/highschool/nerd1.jpg)
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on February 27, 2008, 02:59:43 PM
Thats not WoW!
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Smooth Groove on February 27, 2008, 03:02:05 PM
Analogous example!
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: lordmaji on February 29, 2008, 11:47:55 AM
After playing WoW and loving it. Do some of you guys have a hard time playing any other RPG? Not MMO, but RPG's in general? Other RPG's just can't compare to WoW type of thing?

I'm just curious. :P Either FA is nuts, or it's a common WoW trend. :P


Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: cubicle47b on February 29, 2008, 12:33:05 PM
After playing WoW and loving it. Do some of you guys have a hard time playing any other RPG? Not MMO, but RPG's in general? Other RPG's just can't compare to WoW type of thing?

I'm just curious. :P Either FA is nuts, or it's a common WoW trend. :P

Yeah, I can't really play RPG's anymore.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 29, 2008, 12:41:10 PM
Hm finding work as a blacksmith is harder than I expected. Enchanters get lots of offers, and people even buy half their mats to get the best enchants. But no one wants a lv335 blacksmith  :lol

Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: lordmaji on February 29, 2008, 12:44:55 PM
Hm finding work as a blacksmith is harder than I expected. Enchanters get lots of offers, and people even buy half their mats to get the best enchants. But no one wants a lv335 blacksmith  :lol


Yeah, When you get your enchanting skills maxed you can make bank by enchanting peoples stuff. Just hang out in the main cities and you'll bank. Hell do it just for an hour and you'll make a good chunk of change. Just stock up on mats.

Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: lordmaji on February 29, 2008, 01:06:35 PM
Hm finding work as a blacksmith is harder than I expected. Enchanters get lots of offers, and people even buy half their mats to get the best enchants. But no one wants a lv335 blacksmith  :lol



The gear you can make as a blacksmith kinda sucks tho.  By the time someone's got a lvl high enough for a decent weapon, there's something better/cheaper on the AH or quest rewards.  BS is a very thankless and expensive profession.  If you could freely repair, it'd be worth it...but as it stands, it's really not.

They need to tweak the Blacksmithing skill IMO. It really needs it. It's too expensive for what little you get out of it.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on February 29, 2008, 02:16:58 PM
Hm finding work as a blacksmith is harder than I expected. Enchanters get lots of offers, and people even buy half their mats to get the best enchants. But no one wants a lv335 blacksmith  :lol



The gear you can make as a blacksmith kinda sucks tho.  By the time someone's got a lvl high enough for a decent weapon, there's something better/cheaper on the AH or quest rewards.  BS is a very thankless and expensive profession.  If you could freely repair, it'd be worth it...but as it stands, it's really not.

They need to tweak the Blacksmithing skill IMO. It really needs it. It's too expensive for what little you get out of it.


If you want expensive with eh returns go engineering. WAY more expensive.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: T234 on February 29, 2008, 02:18:32 PM
Hm finding work as a blacksmith is harder than I expected. Enchanters get lots of offers, and people even buy half their mats to get the best enchants. But no one wants a lv335 blacksmith  :lol



The gear you can make as a blacksmith kinda sucks tho.  By the time someone's got a lvl high enough for a decent weapon, there's something better/cheaper on the AH or quest rewards.  BS is a very thankless and expensive profession.  If you could freely repair, it'd be worth it...but as it stands, it's really not.

They need to tweak the Blacksmithing skill IMO. It really needs it. It's too expensive for what little you get out of it.


If you want expensive with eh returns go engineering. WAY more expensive.
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Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 29, 2008, 02:21:59 PM
Just got done doing Deadmines for the first time with Azelion. I did it tons of times with Goinio and it's still very fun. Only suck thing is that I didn't get any drops lol - all the drops were either leather or caster stuff ha. We only had one caster so he had a field day  :lol

It was fun just rampaging through not worrying about anything. Haven't been able to do that in ages
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: lordmaji on February 29, 2008, 02:39:37 PM
Hm finding work as a blacksmith is harder than I expected. Enchanters get lots of offers, and people even buy half their mats to get the best enchants. But no one wants a lv335 blacksmith  :lol



The gear you can make as a blacksmith kinda sucks tho.  By the time someone's got a lvl high enough for a decent weapon, there's something better/cheaper on the AH or quest rewards.  BS is a very thankless and expensive profession.  If you could freely repair, it'd be worth it...but as it stands, it's really not.

They need to tweak the Blacksmithing skill IMO. It really needs it. It's too expensive for what little you get out of it.


If you want expensive with eh returns go engineering. WAY more expensive.

I agree w/ this statement. Engineering and Blacksmithing are the 2 that really needs an overhaul. It sucks. :(
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Eric P on February 29, 2008, 02:41:49 PM
i like the toys you get with engineering.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 29, 2008, 03:01:23 PM
Engineers can't really sell much of anything before they get to the higher levels right?

I've been making a good deal of monies with Azelion (leatherworker/skinner). Light leather sells pretty well, as do armor kits
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: T234 on February 29, 2008, 03:07:31 PM
Engineers can't really sell much of anything period other than guns.

I've been making a good deal of monies with Azelion (leatherworker/skinner). Light leather sells pretty well, as do armor kits
Fixed.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: lordmaji on February 29, 2008, 03:16:58 PM
Engineers can't really sell much of anything before they get to the higher levels right?

I've been making a good deal of monies with Azelion (leatherworker/skinner). Light leather sells pretty well, as do armor kits

Armor kits generally do well.

T234's fix is perfect. :P
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Fragamemnon on February 29, 2008, 03:17:12 PM
Engineering is really great if you are a class with multiple roles that are one equipment change away-warriors, shamans, druids and the like, the fact that the goggles give you a great high item value slot filled for both your gear sets is really powerful. I love my Tankatronic and Furious Gizmatic goggles for PvE, they are pretty much raid quality stuff and it only took about 400g to skill up to it and 200g of mats to make for each.

When paired with mining or herbalism, use of the goggles plus a mote extractor can literally increase the productivity of herb or ore farming sessions by 50-100%. Especially if you use addon combos like Gathermate+Routes to create an optimal path for circling the zone's ore/herb/gas cloud spawn points and have an epic flying mount.

Other than that, most of the engineering stuff isn't very useful. Those two things alone make the profession worthwhile for my warrior, though.

Blacksmithing is just too expensive to level and the desirable recipes drop in places where by the time you get them you don't really need them, save for stuff like the Vortex belts and some of the other stuff. I still think there will be quite a few new blacksmith warriors next patch since people will be able to buy Nether Vortices off the AH/from badges to craft a Stormherald for arena PvP.

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Engineers can't really sell much of anything before they get to the higher levels right?

Again, they sell primals from mote clouds. It's very easy, very good money.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Candyflip on February 29, 2008, 05:44:21 PM
Neilyo is amazing.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on February 29, 2008, 06:09:49 PM
Engineering requires a lot of money to get going. It has ZERO market potential.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: lordmaji on February 29, 2008, 06:26:11 PM
Engineering requires a lot of money to get going. It has ZERO market potential.

Yeah, right now the way BS and ENG is, it's really worthless. Anyone that puts effort into that should just say fuck it and switch. :P

Leather/Enchant/Jewels those are the money makers. Until they re work the BS and ENG.

I'm such a hater. I tried Black Smithing, it was pretty much useless.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on February 29, 2008, 06:28:23 PM
My hunter is already 24 and I started it last friday and I still spent time grinding mount gold and equipment gold on my main lol
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Candyflip on February 29, 2008, 07:01:42 PM
If you really want another account don't pay for one. I have an old one laying around that I don't even use anymore. I don't think it's active anymore though. Just let me know.

I don't know the secret question answer though if you're worried about getting jacked.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Eric P on February 29, 2008, 07:05:42 PM
I think I'm gonna get a new account later today :rofl
Oblivion is fun, but it feels too lonely :'(

tsk tsk tsk

i'm going to mine your personal information and send over some russians to break your fingers
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Candyflip on February 29, 2008, 07:10:42 PM
I don't know if this has been posted before but I figured I may as well put it here since it's not worth making a thread about.

[youtube=425,350]KhGeta8Nqcs[/youtube]

Warhammer looks pitiful. I wish I could try the beta to see if it's really as bad as it looks here.

"No capturing flags because that's dull. We capture things people give a damn about, you know, like strategic points!" What is this guy on? And why does the UI look like they copied WoW pixel for pixel? Even quest tracking :rofl
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Eric P on February 29, 2008, 07:13:37 PM
that's really a damn shame

i was looking forward to this a lot

but goddamn that looks horrible
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on February 29, 2008, 07:17:11 PM
I dunno, I have a lot of faith in Mythic, at least half of the mechanics in WoW were taken from DAoC. The evolution of MMORPGs relies heavily on copying the last successful one. For example the next WoW expansion BGs will have siege equipment, that isnt new kids. DAoC again.

I think the biggest challenge it will face is not looking significantly better than WoW on a technical level (going by the video), and having crappier art.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on February 29, 2008, 07:20:21 PM
Actually the PVP combat looks pretty bad too :(

Say what you want about the endless balance issues in WoW PVP, at least the combat looks visceral.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Candyflip on February 29, 2008, 07:35:51 PM
If 2.4's huge array of class revisions (lol @ locks) and the upcoming 3v3 tournament are any indication, Blizzard is finally paying more attention to PvP. Plus, they allege that with WotLK it will be the most balanced yet.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: lordmaji on February 29, 2008, 07:42:03 PM
Jesus Christ, totally copying WoW.

That guys nuts.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on February 29, 2008, 07:45:41 PM
Well my issue with attention on PVP is that it DOES affect PVE, and to add to that, Arena PVP changes specific to Arena play DO affect Battleground PVP. While the Arena fosters TRUE PVP, it has created yet another faction that will potentially get the shaft due to changes made specifically for PVP/PVE/Arena PVP.

They've BEEN paying attention to PVP and this is the reason PVE people run around screaming welfare epics and bitching and moaning about class changes. PVP gets priority and while this is all well and good, PVE subscribers most likely outnumber PVPers by a large margin.

If they really wanted to balance WoW they would have a balance mentality that was based around the fictional scenario of a player playing all three styles. This balance for the super focused freaks stuff doesnt work for everyone. Sure, I PVP and it currently works for me, but what if that changes? Where do I go?
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on February 29, 2008, 07:46:02 PM
Jesus Christ, totally copying WoW.

That guys nuts.

WoW copied a lot of DAoC. Chicken and Egg argument.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Candyflip on February 29, 2008, 08:46:33 PM
PvE gear is still miles ahead of what is offered from S3, aside from weapons. Of course, when I say PvE gear I mean BT/Hyjal loot. Still. That was the whole point of having a separate season for every tier set. The PvP equivalent. That's how loot scales. Shit gets outdated way fast. You have to keep in mind that content such as Kara and heroics have been around for over a year now. It's not fair to hold back PvP gear simply because people are still stuck in Altazhan.

That's why they keep rolling out the expansions, to deal with the insane scaling of gear. Of course the amount of players that make it to Illidan/Archimonde is smaller than the group of people that will end up walking around in full Vengeful. Any idiot can scrape by all season with a 1400 team and still have enough points to get every piece. That's just the way it is. And look, to appeal to all the terribles who cry about loot because they can't or won't participate in PvE beyond the laughably easy 5 mans there's a whole array of new heroic gear next patch that is more or less on par with T6.

I'd like to say they've done a much better job maintaining the balance of talents between both PvP and PvE in comparison to Pre-BC. If you look back they've definitely widened the gap between specs for the two facets. The whole point of that is to avoid exactly what you're talking about with PvP changes affecting PvE.

Honestly the only way to appease everyone would be to separate the casuals from the hardcores. But that problem exists in a ton of games. It's just more apparent with WoW.

Sorry if this entire post was completely incoherent. After rereading it I feel like I just rambled for 5 minutes.

@Forgotten Ancient. Check your PMs, I sent you the account info anyway. Go ahead and do whatever with it if you end up wanting to play again.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: etiolate on February 29, 2008, 09:09:09 PM
The combat in Warhammer is way too slow, slower than wow even. Faster combat is better for pvp action.

I don't think blizz has done better with pvp, they just find new ways to mess it up. Arena and resil for example. Arena has a small handful of viable specs and those classes get gear others won`t. It's just so broken.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Candyflip on February 29, 2008, 09:20:51 PM
The combat in Warhammer is way too slow, slower than wow even. Faster combat is better for pvp action.

I don't think blizz has done better with pvp, they just find new ways to mess it up. Arena and resil for example. Arena has a small handful of viable specs and those classes get gear others won`t. It's just so broken.
Hmm? They pigeonhole specs on purpose. PvE is not much different. You're not going to find any Shadowstep Hemo rogues in raids just as Destruction in arena has become a joke.

And resilience was pretty much necessary to prevent rogues (along with a plethora of other burst classes) from becoming ridiculously overpowered (http://www.warcraftmovies.com/stream.php?id=33759&stream=Google).

Now I'm interested though. What do you mean when you say "those classes"? According to these rankings (http://www.sk-gaming.com/arena/3/all/all/all/all/) practically any class can go far in arena if you've got the right set up.

I will admit that Hunters were pathetically underutilized throughout S1 and a good portion of S2. Healing debuffs on Aimed Shot and Arcane Shot's purge fixed that though.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: lordmaji on February 29, 2008, 10:07:29 PM
Jesus Christ, totally copying WoW.

That guys nuts.

WoW copied a lot of DAoC. Chicken and Egg argument.

DAoC?? I'm clueless man. :(
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Candyflip on February 29, 2008, 10:10:52 PM
Dark Age of Camelot. Released the year Blizzard announced WoW. Some of the gameplay (or at least the ideas behind it) was very similar to WoW. I was talking more about the similar UIs though when I mentioned Warhammer taking a page out of Blizzard's book.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Invertibrate on February 29, 2008, 10:54:12 PM
Resilience was a great change to PVP to make it viable.  It is evident how necessary it is anytime you run into casters in greens.  They are made of paper and have no survivability in PVP.  A fellow rogue in my guild, who is dagger spec can easily two shot a caster in BGs, as I can on my pvp speced warrior.  6k ambush followed by a 2k+ backstab will kill pretty much any new to 70 pvp caster class.  And PVE epic geared casters are not much better.  Resilience brings in a little more balance to the mix, makes for longer funner fights. 

As far as classes go in arena.  There is now a very clear deliniation between PVP and PVE speced classes.  Before raiders would take their character into PVP and with few if any changes own there.  Now there is a choice, are you PVP or PVE.  Your gear, enchants and gems will all be dictated by that choice, as well as your spec. 

My rogue is for raiding, he is PVE all the way except when I do minimal arenas for the offhand weapons.  I used to do well pvping on him because I had great raid gear in original WoW, now I am squishy in PVP cause my gear and spec are not made for it, and I am fine with it.  If i want to PVP I would pay the respec costs and earn my gear. 

My warrior is a perfect case of this.  I have a great set of tanking gear, I could go and tank the lower level 25 mans in a second on him, but I have also been pvping with him and have a decent set of PVP gear.  The classes are flexable enough that I can go between the 2 specs easily depending on what I want to do that day. 
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: lordmaji on February 29, 2008, 11:05:09 PM
Dark Age of Camelot. Released the year Blizzard announced WoW. Some of the gameplay (or at least the ideas behind it) was very similar to WoW. I was talking more about the similar UIs though when I mentioned Warhammer taking a page out of Blizzard's book.

Ah, alright. I wasn't sure. I heard of DAoC. It just didn't click in my head thats what DAoC was. my bad.

I heard it was good for 5yrs + ago. :P
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on February 29, 2008, 11:06:20 PM
Warhammer's UI theft is pretty damn blatant. they're not even trying to disguise it!
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Eric P on February 29, 2008, 11:08:01 PM
Warhammer's UI theft is pretty damn blatant. they're not even trying to disguise it!

sounds like justice!
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on February 29, 2008, 11:09:15 PM
more like world of warhammer. craft. online.

usually you at least reskin the UI you stole, tho
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on February 29, 2008, 11:28:34 PM
Not sure WoW can get away with wah wah about 'stealing' lol
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on February 29, 2008, 11:29:51 PM
The combat in Warhammer is way too slow, slower than wow even. Faster combat is better for pvp action.

I don't think blizz has done better with pvp, they just find new ways to mess it up. Arena and resil for example. Arena has a small handful of viable specs and those classes get gear others won`t. It's just so broken.

wahhhhhhhhhhhhh
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on March 01, 2008, 01:28:24 PM
I tried Mana Tombs last night and experienced the worst boss fight ever. Even being camped by a group of lv70s was less painful omg

We basically breezed through the instance despite having a horrible healer. It wasn't totally her fault because she wasn't the right druid spec for healing. As Etoilet knows, it's extremely hard to find healers for groups on our server. I mean, REALLY hard. We looked for about an hour for one, and then decided on the druid after she said she could "kinda heal i guess lol." But I figured fuck it, she'll only have to heal me anyway so let's go right? WRONG

The first two bosses were pretty easy. We had a great group leader who warned us what each boss and enemy did so there weren't any surprises. But once we got to the last boss everything went to shit
This guy: http://thottbot.com/c18344

Our original plan was to mark his adds and take them out first, then focus on the boss. But every fucking time I engaged the boss sequence they literally RUSHED past me to the mage and two shotted her. This was odd because she didn't even touch the boss, and besides her DPS was even lower than mine (a capitol crime for anyone but a healer lol). On the next two tries we suffered a similar fate which pissed me off because it seemed like I couldn't do anything to stop them from ignoring me. Finally I was able to hold their arrgo (the casters stayed waay back) but things still went south.

Our main DPS (a rogue) left so we got a lv70 warlock who had like 12K health wtf. On our first try we wiped pretty fast once again. On the second try I decided that I'd focus on the boss while the casters (mainly the warlock) took out the healers. This is the plan I wanted to do from the beginning. Etoilet can also tell you that I constantly ask people if they're ready before engaging mobs/bosses. Everyone says yes, so I run at the boss at which point the warlock is like "wait." WTF I ASKED YOU IF YOU WERE READY. Needless to say I died and then the group wiped. After that I said fuck it and left.

Our original group:
lv66 warrior (me)
lv66 rogue
lv64 mage
lv63 druid (healer)
lv63 druid

The final boss was an elite lv66 and was able to fuck everyone up except me and the rogue. Next time I do Mana Tombs I'm going with a real healer and higher levels. Plus if anyone has tips on how to beat the final boss I'm all ears. The rest of that instance is easy as hell
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on March 01, 2008, 01:29:46 PM
My huntard is 26 booyah!
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Van Cruncheon on March 01, 2008, 02:27:41 PM
my priest is 42!
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on March 01, 2008, 03:12:27 PM
On what server FA? I thought you quit. If you're still on Muradin I'm lv21
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on March 01, 2008, 03:22:46 PM
I don't know whether to chuckle or cry
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: lordmaji on March 02, 2008, 01:20:39 AM
On what server FA? I thought you quit. If you're still on Muradin I'm lv21

I don't think I'll be playing very much for the next 3-4 weeks.  I'll mostly do some random soloing in free time, but I have my work yearly major deadline at the end of this month and my courses are starting to get really stressful.  I'd like to do some instances sometime, but I think your and my schedule don't really match up well.  :(

I don't know whether to chuckle or cry either.  I feel terrible and owe Eric P an apology and a blow job.

Good man! WoW FOREVER! WoW is your addiction, like painkillers are mine. :lol Too each his own. :bow

I'm thinking about playing again. I'm not sure yet though. It's fun bsing w/ people while playing.

PD, you on the horde side yet? or still Alliance? I have a lvl 55 hunter night elf on alliance. I think my highest horde char is 30. :P I'm not sure, it's been a long while since I last played. It started feeling like work. :(
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on March 02, 2008, 01:42:41 AM
Hunter is level 28 rooox
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Eric P on March 02, 2008, 04:22:06 AM
On what server FA? I thought you quit. If you're still on Muradin I'm lv21

I don't think I'll be playing very much for the next 3-4 weeks.  I'll mostly do some random soloing in free time, but I have my work yearly major deadline at the end of this month and my courses are starting to get really stressful.  I'd like to do some instances sometime, but I think your and my schedule don't really match up well.  :(

I don't know whether to chuckle or cry either.  I feel terrible and owe Eric P an apology and a blow job.

tsk tsk tsk

Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: The Fake Shemp on March 02, 2008, 07:52:33 AM
Okay, I'm installing the updates as we speak.  I am down for this MMORPG experience.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: The Fake Shemp on March 02, 2008, 08:34:43 AM
Okay, I created a Blood Elf Hunter named Lotts on the PvP server y'all play on.  Add me and stuff.  I am a total newb.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: etiolate on March 02, 2008, 09:04:51 AM
If they only want certain specs then they should make respeccing free and allow you to interchange gear.  Otherwise it is a grind and expensive to pvp and pve. "Well you can do one or the other" is a big fat fuck you to paying customers.

And certain specs is like sl/sl locks, which is 90 percent of locks I see in pvp. Limited class viability and build viability is BAD for pvp. It makes it boring and redundant. It also doesn't help the image that its the most skill-less specs that become the most viable in pvp, a la the mentioned soul lock specs. 

Again this wouldn't be so bad and the game would be less stale if respeccing and regearing was free and easy.  As it is now, thiings are a bit assbackwards. When I level a character, I follow other players leveling that class around the same level as me. I watched a lot of shamans, and a lot were enhance and loved it. Now they're 70 and all the PVP they did with me was so they could get Elemental gear, because its playable in PVP. Same deal with me.

And just because its the same in PVE doesn't make it right. PVE Raiding and its narrow job list is a big problem as well.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on March 02, 2008, 01:02:14 PM
yeah according to frag only the melee classes can pve in their pvp gear. Casters like myself lose too much sustainability with pvp gear on. I have a feeling it will be a while before you have to ponder that tho, willco
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: The Fake Shemp on March 02, 2008, 01:23:42 PM
Yeah, it's Muradin.  My bad.  My name is Lotts.  I can play after work today (6:30 PST).
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Eric P on March 02, 2008, 01:25:25 PM
willco, i'm going to send you some bags and a small amount of money so you don't have to sweat the most annoying bits of starting out
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: The Fake Shemp on March 02, 2008, 01:29:27 PM
Yay, my newb adventure begins! I don't even know what this particular class does.  I think my first quest is to go by some nearby pillar of green light that looks like Moses from South Park and stab a bunch of creatures until I'm done grinding.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Eric P on March 02, 2008, 01:33:10 PM
for a blood elf hunter your first quest should be to use mana tap on some of the mana wyrms

hit the escape key, go into interface, then choose advanced tab at the top.  make certain all of your action bars options are clicked on except for lock action bars

and are you sure you're a blood elf?  i can't see you online
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: The Fake Shemp on March 02, 2008, 01:41:56 PM
I went offline.  I have to get ready for work.  I'm taking my laptop with me - I might try to play on lunch break.  This thing can play it completely maxed out and with good AA to boot.  A first, for me.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Eric P on March 02, 2008, 01:51:20 PM
ok, i'll send you your care package
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Van Cruncheon on March 02, 2008, 03:48:57 PM
ding 45 i rule
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on March 02, 2008, 03:50:49 PM
i said hi and prole and willco ignored me  :'(

Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on March 02, 2008, 04:41:20 PM
you suck you shoulda joined me and Keith on BDF
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Eric P on March 02, 2008, 04:45:09 PM
you suck you shoulda joined me and Keith on BDF

join us!
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on March 02, 2008, 04:47:58 PM
hum. you can do PVP -> PVE transfer I suppose~
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on March 02, 2008, 04:56:47 PM
BDF is boring gankland
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: T234 on March 02, 2008, 04:57:53 PM
PVP >>>>>>>>>>>> PVE
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Eric P on March 02, 2008, 05:03:56 PM
hum. you can do PVP -> PVE transfer I suppose~

i did

i was on your server but then we never talked

so i joined in the mass migration

did a paid transfer and it was ready within an hour or two
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on March 02, 2008, 05:17:10 PM
PVP >>> PVE if youre in a large guild and like being drug around like a bunch of distinguished mentally-challenged fellows on a short bus.

I know how to PVP, but I also know that it belongs in a controlled environment where people dont circle jerk over beating down a lone player while trolling around in the company of e-thugs.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Eric P on March 02, 2008, 05:27:42 PM
where people dont circle jerk over beating down a lone player while trolling around in the company of e-thugs.

this is the reason i am loathe to do any pvp in wow

or in much of anything, really
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on March 02, 2008, 05:28:26 PM
double check

you're on Muradin? Horde?
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Eric P on March 02, 2008, 05:29:19 PM
oui

named fantomas.  lvl 32 belf
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on March 02, 2008, 05:30:29 PM
hum. okay, I'll transfer over (and encourage Keith to do the same...hopefully he doesn't hate me)

but first I need to send myself 300 gold
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Eric P on March 02, 2008, 05:33:13 PM
we need to get prole to swing around and collect your signatures for the guild
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on March 02, 2008, 05:37:53 PM
okay, it will probably take a few days to finalize, but I'm joining the winning team
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Van Cruncheon on March 02, 2008, 05:38:22 PM
alright, i will recreate the guild -- i tossed the charter to help some dude in a pug sign his
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Eric P on March 02, 2008, 05:40:05 PM
okay, it will probably take a few days to finalize, but I'm joining the winning team

yeah, it said the same thing for me

but it just took a few hours

Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on March 02, 2008, 05:44:47 PM
It'll prolly take a few days for me
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on March 02, 2008, 06:30:40 PM
I am not you
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on March 02, 2008, 06:38:57 PM
okay
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Eric P on March 02, 2008, 07:07:34 PM
alright

I AM VERY DISAPPOINTED IN YOU, SIR

VERY DISAPPOINTED INDEED
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on March 02, 2008, 07:09:56 PM
theirs nothing too be dissapointed about

I got my confirmation mail, I should hopefully be able to get it finalized tomorrow
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on March 02, 2008, 07:31:05 PM
Synth what lv are you and TVC?
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on March 02, 2008, 07:35:30 PM
I'm 22 Warlock, I think TVC is about 26 Rogue.

I'm leaving my 70 main on BDF.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Eric P on March 02, 2008, 07:55:35 PM
theirs nothing too be dissapointed about

I got my confirmation mail, I should hopefully be able to get it finalized tomorrow

not you

FA

Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Eric P on March 02, 2008, 07:55:54 PM
It looks like EB Muradin has a nice diversity of different classes. 

me: druid / Warrior
Maf: Mage/hunter/druid
Synth: Warlock
PD: Paladin
Prolse: Priest
Wil: Hunter
Eric P: Hunter, I think?
If we can get TVC that'll give us a rogue. 

Not Bad :D 

My old server had a bunch of buddies who were ALL rogues. 


GLARE
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Eric P on March 02, 2008, 08:25:31 PM
no mere trinket can restore broken trust

Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on March 02, 2008, 08:43:09 PM
no mere trinket can restore broken trust

at least, not more than once every 30 minutes
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: The Fake Shemp on March 03, 2008, 02:10:36 AM
Awesome, with Patel and (hopefully) TVC transferring over, we can consolidate our nerd efforts on one server.  I am already at LEVEL TWO.  Thank you for the nice gift, Eric!
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Eric P on March 03, 2008, 08:41:16 AM
Awesome, with Patel and (hopefully) TVC transferring over, we can consolidate our nerd efforts on one server.  I am already at LEVEL TWO.  Thank you for the nice gift, Eric!

it will come in handy.

have you given any thought to your crafting?

what i'd suggest, esp as a noob is something like alchemy/herbalism.  you can do a lot with alchemy which will be helpful to your class (healing potions, elixers of agility which help your ranged attack, water breathing potions and the like).  plus you can collect and sell the herbs for a decent amount of money when you hit level 30, which will be very important for getting your mount.

when you hit level ten, go back and snag an elder lynx for your pet.

there are some tougher quests in the ghostlands, so feel free to ask for help.  unfortunately because of time zone differences, we probably won't end up playing much but i'll be happy to assist when i can


Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: The Fake Shemp on March 03, 2008, 08:50:12 AM
As you can see by my quick reply - I don't have regular sleeping patterns.  If we don't play a bunch, it's only because I'm a casual newb.  I completed a couple of quests and got to LEVEL THREE before I head off today.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Eric P on March 03, 2008, 08:54:29 AM
man you are casual

you can get to level 10 in 5 hours or so, from there you'll get your pet and then you really start the game (as that class)
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: The Fake Shemp on March 03, 2008, 08:57:35 AM
No, wait, I'm at level four.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: lordmaji on March 03, 2008, 09:33:44 AM
:lol FA trying to buy Eric's love back.

Folks we have witnessed the mind of a true WoW junkie. :P
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on March 03, 2008, 10:08:03 AM
1-20 is easy in belf area lol, but I have most of it memorized.

My new hunter character btw. Total ezmode. Im actually REALLY undergeared in some key places but its not stopping me from leveling.

(http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/7963/brynithaau3.jpg)
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Fragamemnon on March 03, 2008, 02:33:36 PM
I was never very good at alts!

I got a fancy new tanking sword this weekend so now I look like 80% of the other warrior tanks sitting around Shattrah City (mongoose'd King's Defender). I got the tanking badge pants and the engineer tanking gun and now I am MR PRO PVE MAN or something.

Shit, good enchants and gems are EXPENSIVE. The materials for Mongoose are 550g on my server, the nethercleft hide armor is 215g or so, and my gems ran anywhere from 35-50g a pop. Getting new gear fast = strain on resources.

My wife's paladin got a fancypants netherdrake mount Friday, and I'm getting a matching one tonight.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on March 03, 2008, 05:30:36 PM
Yeah chants are expensive. Thankfully post chanters are sensible about the tip, its the mats, especially on my server's borked horde econ, that cost so much. Getting MAJOR SPELL POWER 2H for Vynitha was QQ more.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on March 03, 2008, 05:37:26 PM
my transfer finished, I'll log on in a few and let you know my name

TVC is coming over, too, though that process is hitting a few snags
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Eric P on March 03, 2008, 05:38:54 PM
my transfer finished, I'll log on in a few and let you know my name

TVC is coming over, too, though that process is hitting a few snags

is his name too erudite?
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on March 03, 2008, 05:44:06 PM
he's putting the Forced in Forced Name Change
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Van Cruncheon on March 03, 2008, 05:47:18 PM
"buubserella" requires a name change? you shit me. and on a server with clans like "Naga Just Don't Know" and "Come Honor Face"? oh, blizzard!
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on March 03, 2008, 05:48:42 PM
that's not it, really. but I am encouraging him to choose a less breast-focused name on his new home
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on March 03, 2008, 06:57:58 PM
lol
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Van Cruncheon on March 03, 2008, 08:04:34 PM
why change it? it's not even remotely offensive.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: TVC15 on March 03, 2008, 08:11:33 PM
My transfer is complete.  There was no prompt to change my name or anything like that, nor was there an option to change my name even if I wanted to.  It's a good thing you never saw my BDF alt, Patel.  She was named Zlutina.

Anyway, I am a level 26 belf rogue.  My equipment is kinda crappy.  I accidentally sold my good dagger some months back, so I am using a sword/dagger combo.  I'm into skinnin'/leathworking, and most of my armor has been kicked up with medium armor kits.

Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on March 03, 2008, 08:11:43 PM
doh, my first choice and second choice names were taken

I am now Cocco, L22 Warlock

Friend me!
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: TVC15 on March 03, 2008, 08:14:45 PM
Cocco?  That is more offensive than Buubserella
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: MrAngryFace on March 03, 2008, 08:29:53 PM
haha zlutina...slutina...
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: TVC15 on March 03, 2008, 08:32:12 PM
I believe the character I already had on Muradin was named Roxy.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: The Fake Shemp on March 03, 2008, 08:38:13 PM
Sweet.  The gang is all here.  I still don't know what the fuck I'm doing. :-\
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Van Cruncheon on March 03, 2008, 08:45:52 PM
roxy the night elf! i remember you taunting some poor schmuck on the boat ride to exodar.
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on March 03, 2008, 09:17:03 PM
send me mail in game so I can be-friend you

I'll try to play some from home tonight
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: TVC15 on March 03, 2008, 09:25:48 PM
I am online now. 
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on March 03, 2008, 09:34:06 PM
I am online now. 

please use my hot new thread and step out of the PD ghetto
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on March 03, 2008, 09:36:15 PM
Is this the biggest thread on EB? :bow
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Phoenix Dark on April 24, 2008, 04:54:08 PM
EPIC BUMP

Finally beat Mana Tombs. The last boss would always fuck me over in the past, but this time I was lucky to do the instance with some people who have beaten him before. Basically you just need a tank on him while everyone else focuses on the adds :bow

Plus I got to lv67 :bow :bow :bow
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Eric P on April 24, 2008, 07:04:42 PM
wait why did this get moved?
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Mupepe on April 25, 2008, 12:41:33 AM
it's moved and i'm still posting!
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: AdmiralViscen on April 25, 2008, 02:14:19 AM
cunt
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: AdmiralViscen on April 25, 2008, 02:16:51 AM
THERE IS NO LAW
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Mupepe on April 25, 2008, 02:23:24 AM
this place needs some sort of order
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: AdmiralViscen on April 25, 2008, 02:24:39 AM
I DECLARE MYSELF THE GOD-KING OF THE HALL OF SHAME

Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: AdmiralViscen on April 25, 2008, 02:31:41 AM
:hump
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: AdmiralViscen on April 25, 2008, 03:37:30 AM
yea that's right
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: Vizzys on April 25, 2008, 04:32:34 AM
feggits
Title: Re: Adventures of GOINIO: WoW
Post by: FatalT on April 25, 2008, 06:09:09 AM
Derp.