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General => Dysfunctional Hall of Fame => Topic started by: Smooth Groove on December 16, 2010, 02:44:59 PM

Title: Wincest is no worse than gay sex?
Post by: Smooth Groove on December 16, 2010, 02:44:59 PM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1339108/David-Epstein-Homosexuals-want-INCEST-different.html?ito=feeds-newsxml

'It's ok for homosexuals to do what they want at home, how is this different?'


David Epstein is charged with third-degree incest over an alleged three-year sexual relationship with his 24-year-old daughter

David Epstein is charged with third-degree incest over an alleged three-year sexual relationship with his 24-year-old daughter

The lawyer representing a professor charged with incest with his 24-year-old daughter has questioned why the alleged affair has been made public.

David Epstein was charged last week with one count of incest for what was allegedly a consensual three-year sexual relationship with his daughter.

The political science professor at Columbia University, 46, allegedly slept with her between 2006 and 2009.

Epstein, who specialises in American politics and voting rights, is also said to have exchanged twisted text messages with the woman during their relationship.

Matthew Galluzzo, defending Epstein, has said that even though his daughter had emerged as a victim in the case, she could 'best be described as an accomplice'.

He told ABCNews.com: 'Academically, we are obviously all morally opposed to incest and rightfully so.

'At the same time, there is an argument to be made in the Swiss case to let go what goes on privately in bedrooms.

'It's ok for homosexuals to do whatever they want in their own home. How is this so different?

'We have to figure out why some behaviour is tolerated and some is not.'

In an interview with the Huffington Post, he added: 'What goes on between consenting adults in private should not be legislated. That is not the proper domain of our law.

'If we assume for a moment that both parties [involved in incest] are consenting, then why are we prosecuting this?'

Epstein, who has taught at Harvard and Stanford, is currently on administrative leave from Columbia.

He was married to another lecturer at the Ivy League institution, Sharyn O'Halloran, but the pair recently divorced.

In an earlier statement Mr Galluzzo called the charges against the professor 'unwarranted and unfair'.

'Professor Epstein is well-respected by his peers and students and he asks that his friends in the Columbia community support him and give him the benefit of the doubt during this trying time,' he added.

Switzerland legislators have proposed decriminalising consensual sexual relationships between first-degree relatives, including siblings and parents and their adult children.

Consensual incest is also legal in China, France, Israel, the Ivory Coast, the Netherlands, Russia, Spain and Turkey, according to a 2007 report from the Max Planck Institute in Germany.


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Title: Re: Wincest is no worse than gay sex?
Post by: Mr. Gundam on December 16, 2010, 02:52:17 PM
Legal or not, why would you even consider it?
Title: Re: Wincest is no worse than gay sex?
Post by: Mupepe on December 16, 2010, 02:52:59 PM
Because cousin loving is hot.
Title: Re: Wincest is no worse than gay sex?
Post by: Third on December 16, 2010, 02:53:04 PM
I'd rather have sex with a man than with my sisters or mother.
Title: Re: Wincest is no worse than gay sex?
Post by: Mupepe on December 16, 2010, 02:54:34 PM
i've roleplayed with a girl as a brother/sister scenario.
Title: Re: Wincest is no worse than gay sex?
Post by: DJ_Tet on December 16, 2010, 03:06:39 PM
I'd rather have sex with a man than with my sisters or mother.

The real question is, would you fuck your dad rather than your mom?
Title: Re: Wincest is no worse than gay sex?
Post by: Mandark on December 16, 2010, 03:09:33 PM
i've roleplayed with a girl as a brother/sister scenario.

At first I read "as a girl in" and I was all  :dizzy then I saw it's "with a girl as" so now it's all :zzz
Title: Re: Wincest is no worse than gay sex?
Post by: Mupepe on December 16, 2010, 03:10:05 PM
 :lol :lol
Title: Re: Wincest is no worse than gay sex?
Post by: Corporal on December 16, 2010, 04:19:32 PM
Ew.

How fucked up they have to be mentally to even consider this, I dare not contemplate.

Also, what a hilarious strawman argument. Even for a lawyer.
Title: Re: Wincest is no worse than gay sex?
Post by: Joe Molotov on December 16, 2010, 05:10:38 PM
Because cousin loving is hot.

Incest is the best, put your sister to the test.
Title: Re: Wincest is no worse than gay sex?
Post by: Smooth Groove on December 16, 2010, 05:11:56 PM
Yup.  Roleplaying is no substitute for the real thing.
Title: Re: Wincest is no worse than gay sex?
Post by: Mupepe on December 16, 2010, 05:14:53 PM
Yup.  Roleplaying is no substitute for the real thing.
I don't have a biological sister :(
Title: Re: Wincest is no worse than gay sex?
Post by: Joe Molotov on December 16, 2010, 05:15:20 PM
Yup.  Roleplaying is no substitute for the real thing.
I don't have a biological sister :(

Time to knock up your mom and make one.
Title: Re: Wincest is no worse than gay sex?
Post by: Mupepe on December 16, 2010, 05:18:32 PM
Yup.  Roleplaying is no substitute for the real thing.
I don't have a biological sister :(

Time to knock up your mom and make one.
i don't dig on mother loving.  just cousin/sister loving.
Title: Re: Wincest is no worse than gay sex?
Post by: Smooth Groove on December 16, 2010, 05:22:36 PM
Or you can wait for your daughter to grow up like Epstein. 
Title: Re: Wincest is no worse than gay sex?
Post by: Mupepe on December 16, 2010, 05:25:04 PM
i should have clarified, not into parental incest.  no vertical loving, only horizontal.
Title: Re: Wincest is no worse than gay sex?
Post by: Mupepe on December 16, 2010, 05:30:20 PM
it is okay.  pussy is pussy.
Title: Re: Wincest is no worse than gay sex?
Post by: pilonv1 on December 16, 2010, 06:56:55 PM
:rofl this thread
Title: Re: Wincest is no worse than gay sex?
Post by: Phoenix Dark on December 16, 2010, 07:53:19 PM
I no longer go to family reunions, but the people who organize ours used to do so by warning us if we didn't know our extended family, we might end up marrying them. Their only example involved my dad, who became good friends with a girl in highschool, and was about to go on a date with her when he found out she was his cousin.

They both grew up to be dentists
Title: Re: Wincest is no worse than gay sex?
Post by: Smooth Groove on December 16, 2010, 08:17:25 PM
PD's family is the whitest black family ever.
Title: Re: Wincest is no worse than gay sex?
Post by: Phoenix Dark on December 16, 2010, 08:20:54 PM
My dad's side of the family is The Cosby Show, my mom's side is Sanford and Son
Title: Re: Wincest is no worse than gay sex?
Post by: OptimoPeach on December 16, 2010, 08:22:49 PM
Pics of daughter?
Title: Re: Wincest is no worse than gay sex?
Post by: Cormacaroni on December 16, 2010, 08:37:00 PM
This all stems from very valid historical taboos designed to prevent inbreeding. On a planet with 7 billion individuals, the risk of a few sickos thinning the gene pool is pretty slim IMHO. Let them do what they want, if it makes them happy, or even less miserable. The issue with any father / daughter scenario, of course, is that it may not really be consensual. It might be the result of years of mental and or physical abuse designed to make the other person consent. i.e. like any Jewish relationship.
Title: Re: Wincest is no worse than gay sex?
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on December 16, 2010, 09:20:45 PM
My dad's side of the family is The Cosby Show, my mom's side is Sanford and Son

This is golden bumper sticker material.
Title: Re: Wincest is no worse than gay sex?
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on December 16, 2010, 09:22:28 PM
This all stems from very valid historical taboos designed to prevent inbreeding. On a planet with 7 billion individuals, the risk of a few sickos thinning the gene pool is pretty slim IMHO. Let them do what they want, if it makes them happy, or even less miserable. The issue with any father / daughter scenario, of course, is that it may not really be consensual. It might be the result of years of mental and or physical abuse designed to make the other person consent. i.e. like any Jewish relationship.

That would be fine and all if it weren't for potentially having misformed and unhealthy children.  It kinda pisses me off the same way seeing a pregnant woman drinking or smoking does.
Title: Re: Wincest is no worse than gay sex?
Post by: Cormacaroni on December 16, 2010, 09:50:06 PM
This all stems from very valid historical taboos designed to prevent inbreeding. On a planet with 7 billion individuals, the risk of a few sickos thinning the gene pool is pretty slim IMHO. Let them do what they want, if it makes them happy, or even less miserable. The issue with any father / daughter scenario, of course, is that it may not really be consensual. It might be the result of years of mental and or physical abuse designed to make the other person consent. i.e. like any Jewish relationship.

That would be fine and all if it weren't for potentially having misformed and unhealthy children.  It kinda pisses me off the same way seeing a pregnant woman drinking or smoking does.

It's a risk if you're a Quaker, living in a community of a few dozen people. If you're living in NYC, a few isolated incidents here and there aren't going to have much of an effect unless there is a serious history of recessive gene disease in the family.
Title: Re: Wincest is no worse than gay sex?
Post by: Smooth Groove on December 16, 2010, 09:55:21 PM
This all stems from very valid historical taboos designed to prevent inbreeding. On a planet with 7 billion individuals, the risk of a few sickos thinning the gene pool is pretty slim IMHO. Let them do what they want, if it makes them happy, or even less miserable. The issue with any father / daughter scenario, of course, is that it may not really be consensual. It might be the result of years of mental and or physical abuse designed to make the other person consent. i.e. like any Jewish relationship.

Incest has always been a part of Jewish culture.  It's all there in the bible. 
Title: Re: Wincest is no worse than gay sex?
Post by: fistfulofmetal on December 16, 2010, 10:00:56 PM
i read incest erotica
Title: Re: Wincest is no worse than gay sex?
Post by: Joe Molotov on December 16, 2010, 10:26:26 PM
My dad's side of the family is The Cosby Show, my mom's side is Sanford and Son

you were born from two great sitcoms?

And that's why PD is a cross between Theo Huxtable and Lamont Sanford.
Title: Re: Wincest is no worse than gay sex?
Post by: pilonv1 on December 16, 2010, 10:31:57 PM
I always saw PD as more Elvin than Theo.
Title: Re: Wincest is no worse than gay sex?
Post by: Van Cruncheon on December 16, 2010, 11:42:47 PM
Doesn't do much for me, but if they're both consenting adults, I don't really see how this should be a prosecutable crime.

what this duder said, with the obvious exception of whatever sexy sexy hijinx brandnew and his fly sister get up to :drool :drool
Title: Re: Wincest is no worse than gay sex?
Post by: lennedsay on December 17, 2010, 12:39:13 AM
Every time I go to my family reunions, I get hit on. So I started taking my bfs when I was old enough, then they started getting hit on, but they got hit on by long-lost family members who recently found us and didn't know anybody, so they assumed we were all family.  :-\

And none of them have teeth. Or all their limbs.
Title: Re: Wincest is no worse than gay sex?
Post by: Cormacaroni on December 17, 2010, 12:40:03 AM
You keep going to the reunions though. Perv.
Title: Re: Wincest is no worse than gay sex?
Post by: lennedsay on December 17, 2010, 12:41:49 AM
You keep going to the reunions though. Perv.

I haven't gone since I became an adult and told my mom NO MEANS NO!

But when a few of them get out of prison.... I dream about that though.  :-*
Title: Re: Wincest is no worse than gay sex?
Post by: Oblivion on December 17, 2010, 01:14:57 AM
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third-degree incest

lol that's awesome
Title: Re: Wincest is no worse than gay sex?
Post by: OptimoPeach on December 17, 2010, 09:27:29 AM
My nieces are too young.
Guess there is no potential for incest right now.
At least you're staying optimistic
Title: Re: Wincest is no worse than gay sex?
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on December 17, 2010, 10:13:19 AM
This all stems from very valid historical taboos designed to prevent inbreeding. On a planet with 7 billion individuals, the risk of a few sickos thinning the gene pool is pretty slim IMHO. Let them do what they want, if it makes them happy, or even less miserable. The issue with any father / daughter scenario, of course, is that it may not really be consensual. It might be the result of years of mental and or physical abuse designed to make the other person consent. i.e. like any Jewish relationship.

The FLDS has seen a huge surge in rare diseases (fumarase deficiency being one) because of all of the incest that goes on.

Title: Re: Wincest is no worse than gay sex?
Post by: Mupepe on December 17, 2010, 10:19:15 AM
Every time I go to my family reunions, I get hit on. So I started taking my bfs when I was old enough, then they started getting hit on, but they got hit on by long-lost family members who recently found us and didn't know anybody, so they assumed we were all family.  :-\

And none of them have teeth. Or all their limbs.
I'd hook up with you if you were my sister.  Just sayin.
Title: Re: Wincest is no worse than gay sex?
Post by: AdmiralViscen on December 17, 2010, 10:39:33 AM
:rofl HoF
Title: Re: Wincest is no worse than gay sex?
Post by: Diunx on December 17, 2010, 12:20:51 PM
Incest is not my thang I find my sister unatractive even though all my friends find her hot.
Title: Re: Wincest is no worse than gay sex?
Post by: Mupepe on December 17, 2010, 01:52:39 PM
pics of sister
Title: Re: Wincest is no worse than gay sex?
Post by: Diunx on December 17, 2010, 03:51:52 PM
Hook me up with a ps3 mang :ninja
Title: Re: Wincest is no worse than gay sex?
Post by: Mupepe on December 17, 2010, 03:53:49 PM
how about a psp?
Title: Re: Wincest is no worse than gay sex?
Post by: Diunx on December 17, 2010, 04:58:53 PM
She is my sister dude! not some ho Olimario met in subway.
Title: Re: Wincest is no worse than gay sex?
Post by: lennedsay on December 17, 2010, 09:41:34 PM
Every time I go to my family reunions, I get hit on. So I started taking my bfs when I was old enough, then they started getting hit on, but they got hit on by long-lost family members who recently found us and didn't know anybody, so they assumed we were all family.  :-\

And none of them have teeth. Or all their limbs.
I'd hook up with you if you were my sister.  Just sayin.

How do you know I'm not your sister.  :-*

:lol Diunx
Title: Re: Wincest is no worse than gay sex?
Post by: brawndolicious on December 17, 2010, 11:21:37 PM
This all stems from very valid historical taboos designed to prevent inbreeding. On a planet with 7 billion individuals, the risk of a few sickos thinning the gene pool is pretty slim IMHO. Let them do what they want, if it makes them happy, or even less miserable. The issue with any father / daughter scenario, of course, is that it may not really be consensual. It might be the result of years of mental and or physical abuse designed to make the other person consent. i.e. like any Jewish relationship.
The FLDS has seen a huge surge in rare diseases (fumarase deficiency being one) because of all of the incest that goes on.

I think that's only within certain sects.  I heard about one guy who took over a compound when his father died and married all of his father's dozens of wives, except for his birth mother.