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General => Video Game Bored => Topic started by: Himu on June 18, 2011, 11:48:36 PM

Title: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: Himu on June 18, 2011, 11:48:36 PM
I MADE UP MY MIND NEVER TO SHED TEARS AGAIN

Comes out June 28th, got my pre-order paid off.

Name your systems. Playing on 360!

Who is getting it and does this have story co-op? :hyper

[youtube=560,345]zwburHwxhBE[/youtube]
[youtube=560,345]Y4emn7UMpSU[/youtube]

You guys better get this because this seems to be last Musuo released stateside in quite some time. :(
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Trent Dole on June 19, 2011, 02:39:12 AM
I still haven't gotten the second round of DLC for DW7 yet and they already haveanother friggin game out. I think there's going to be goofy outfit for all four factions so that'd mean at least three more rounds o' stuff? Think I'll just wait until the rest is all up and then have a all day binge. As for this my knowledge of Gundam is basically none which could be offered as an excuse to opt out except that it was also true of my three kingdoms era China knowledge before getting into these games.  8)
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on June 19, 2011, 02:52:31 AM
Nah, I'm passing on this.  I haven't sunken nearly enough time into DW7 and SW Chronicles, and I still have SW3 to finish.

Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on June 19, 2011, 02:58:06 AM
Guess I'm the only one getting it for 360 then.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on June 19, 2011, 03:00:00 AM
This game looks so slow compared DW7. :(
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Mr. Gundam on June 19, 2011, 01:00:26 PM
This game is SOOO 6 months ago. :lol

I noticed that PSN has changed all of my Gundam Musou 3 trophies into Dynasty Warriors Gundam 3 trophies.

Have fun with it Himumu-chan, it's a good game.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: demi on June 19, 2011, 02:54:43 PM
Guess I'm the only one getting it for 360 then.

Although you will find many superior 360 owners here, only a slim amount care about XXXYYYXXXYYYsucked
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on June 19, 2011, 03:22:16 PM
I'll probably buy it.  I don't have my 360 online so no go on the online coop.

Might be the last 360 game I buy.  I've been thinking about just pitching it in the trash and getting a bluray player instead.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Mr. Gundam on June 19, 2011, 03:32:58 PM
does this have story co-op?

No story co-op. Online co-op is a separate mode with separate, basic missions.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Joe Molotov on June 19, 2011, 03:54:27 PM
I MADE UP MY MIND NEVER TO SHED TEARS AGAIN

This game looks so slow compared DW7. :(

Well, that didn't take long.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Bebpo on June 19, 2011, 04:53:59 PM
Best musou game ever.  LE needs to play this!
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on June 19, 2011, 05:09:09 PM
I MADE UP MY MIND NEVER TO SHED TEARS AGAIN

This game looks so slow compared DW7. :(

Well, that didn't take long.

The first one is a quote in the game, haha.

Best musou game ever.  LE needs to play this!

how so? I thought you didn't play Dynasty Warriors?
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Mr. Gundam on June 19, 2011, 10:02:47 PM
BEST MUSOU GAME EVER
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on June 19, 2011, 10:43:56 PM
WHY AND HOW
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Mr. Gundam on June 20, 2011, 12:19:13 AM
It just is, but I'm sure you've hyped yourself up for it so much that you'll end up finding it "meh," like you do on a regular basis.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Bebpo on June 20, 2011, 12:23:33 AM
Yeah, it just is
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on June 20, 2011, 12:27:15 AM
I'm really not all that hyped. I'm just getting this because it's Gundam and you kill things. I've never played a DW: Gundam outside of DW: Gundam 1's demo.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Mr. Gundam on June 20, 2011, 12:28:18 AM
Have fun with it, even though us real mecha bros spent our Christmas vacation playing the shit out of it.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on June 20, 2011, 01:07:10 AM
I'm not a big mecha fan. I just like Gundam!
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: MCD on June 20, 2011, 02:09:37 AM
I don't like 00 (I want Exia, goddammit) but will give this a try one day.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: MoxManiac on June 20, 2011, 06:38:49 PM
I always get musou games on PS3, sorry himumu :(
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on June 21, 2011, 04:46:39 PM
This game play vid makes the game look so fantastic. Much faster than other vids I saw. Looks about as fast as DW7.

[youtube=560,345]aL8xWw5E0bA[/youtube]
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Bebpo on June 21, 2011, 06:45:45 PM
It's faster than DW7.  Do you have jetpacks on your back in DW7?!!
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on June 21, 2011, 06:46:32 PM
Himu, they're Gundam freaks.  DAT BIAS   :lol ;)

This is also an older title than DW7 is, so it makes sense that it would feel like a step "back."  I have read that the game has shitty mission design, so I will pass.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on June 21, 2011, 07:27:12 PM
It's faster than DW7.  Do you have jetpacks on your back in DW7?!!

Even then, three levels of speed boosts looks 10x faster than any vid of DWG3 I've seen.

Example:

[youtube=560,345]7_2YiDValN0#t=1m20s[/youtube]

Go to 1:20

DW7 is fast as shit. Even "slow" characters are fast and fluid. 

That said, I picked up the DW: Gundam demo and it's a lot more fun when actually playing it. Kinda like Musuo Orochi games. Both are very slow but fun when you learn the movelists.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on June 26, 2011, 03:06:23 AM
Gamestop's have the game.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on June 28, 2011, 02:18:12 AM
omg the dub :rofl

[youtube=560,345]AKPDiZ0u_hQ[/youtube]
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Mr. Gundam on June 28, 2011, 02:31:06 AM
Does it have the original music and Japanese audio? I heard the NA versions of the first two games were missing the original music.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on June 28, 2011, 02:40:45 AM
It has the same soundtrack except for the anime songs, and it has Japanese VA
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Bebpo on June 28, 2011, 04:22:37 AM
Shame the anime songs aren't in, but the koei tracks are really great in this one.  Really get the blood pumping.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on June 28, 2011, 01:42:36 PM
Got it.

Loving this game. So much to do and so many ways to customize. The amount of missions is ridiculous. Fun. :) Also, the game is great with combos, probably more so any Musuo I've played. I have been juggling enemy officers for what seems to feel like a full minute due to Unicorn Gundam's (:rock) moveset.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Mr. Gundam on June 28, 2011, 01:43:24 PM
For the love of God, it's MUSOU.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on June 28, 2011, 01:47:15 PM
Oops.

Anyway, I got like 900 kills on the first mission. :lol
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Bebpo on June 28, 2011, 02:22:56 PM
Got it.

Loving this game. So much to do and so many ways to customize. The amount of missions is ridiculous. Fun. :) Also, the game is great with combos, probably more so any Musuo I've played. I have been juggling enemy officers for what seems to feel like a full minute due to Unicorn Gundam's (:rock) moveset.

Unicorn is sooooooooooooo ridiculously overpowered in this.  You can pretty much stay in Unicorn mode the entire map.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on June 28, 2011, 02:38:15 PM
how?
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Bebpo on June 28, 2011, 02:43:23 PM
Kill stuff and build meter?
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on June 28, 2011, 03:20:46 PM
Oh, the musou? Yeah he builds that meter real fast. Love that Gundam.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on June 28, 2011, 04:58:53 PM
haha i seem to be the only person on the internet who got this

bomba
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Trent Dole on June 28, 2011, 05:28:17 PM
The koei warriors subforum for it was pretty dead yesterday and if there's no enthusiasm there...
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on June 28, 2011, 06:06:42 PM
we've been discussing it quite a bit in the SA Gundam thread, Trent:

http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3420912&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=5
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Trent Dole on June 28, 2011, 06:08:30 PM
Yar, I saw the SA thread was pretty active after posting that. This looks to be similar to Strikeforce in structure. :yuck
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on June 28, 2011, 06:16:24 PM
How so?
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Trent Dole on June 28, 2011, 06:19:10 PM
Going from room full of dudes to kill to room full of dudes to kill.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on June 28, 2011, 06:31:09 PM
It's helped by the fact that the different Mobile Suits all feel so different. But yeah, so far, very little variation in mission design but it's so fun. I think the biggest obstacle is the fact that officers (including yourself) regenerate in battle. I dunno, it's a good thing and bad thing. One one hand, I feel takes away from the strategic nature of Musou, on the other hand, it adds to the strategic nature because simply dying equates to loss in morale (which means you have a bigger chance in losing).

But I'm early in so variety can certainly be coming.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on June 28, 2011, 10:38:53 PM
Trent: http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3420586&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=1
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Mr. Gundam on June 29, 2011, 01:07:39 AM
haha i seem to be the only person on the internet who got this

bomba

Like I said, us awesome mecha-bros bought this back in December.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Van Cruncheon on June 29, 2011, 01:20:53 AM
bought it, hags
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on June 29, 2011, 01:29:13 AM
let's do some online, prole.

btw 00 Raiser is my favorite so far. Full Frontal's MS is beyond awesome, I really like Unicorn Gundam but 00 Raiser is that much better. Finally Garrod's assist fucks everything.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Bebpo on June 29, 2011, 02:10:32 AM
Gundam DX is my favorite unit.  The jump up AIR FUCKING NUKE YOUR GROUND UNITS musou will kill multiple generals instantly.  Not too mention wipe out the entire room.  The GP02 has a similar attack but it's much weaker and smaller radius.  Also DX has some siiiick normal combos.  Throw that MAGNET skill on that pulls enemies towards you and C5 or C6 will almost always trigger it.  So good.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on June 29, 2011, 01:22:31 PM
My biggest complaint about this game is the lack of mission variety. I love the game, but I'm not finding it as fun as Dynasty Warriors 7, where every map was different and every map had a specific goal. Sometimes you have to run away in DW7, maybe you need to take control of a catapult station so you can storm a castle, maybe you need to protect someone, maybe the enemy is planning an ambush and you can sneak up behind them for a sneak attack or just rush in. No matter what it is, every stage on DW7 offers something new.

I enjoy the more large scale battles of DW more than the skirmishes of DWG3. Not only do they make the game feel more "epic" (I hate using that word) but they lend to the game's design as well by giving it a ton of more variety.

I love the whole strategy motif in DWG3, but every map doesn't have to be the same thing with the same goal.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Bebpo on June 29, 2011, 01:51:58 PM
What it offers is new awesome gundams and new awesome pilots shouting in moon language

spoiler (click to show/hide)
it could have some more variety
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Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on June 29, 2011, 01:59:49 PM
On the flip side, the formula does make for very casual play. This morning before my job interview I booted it up and played a short mission. Beat it in 5-6 minutes. On the other hand, I really enjoy those 20-30 minute long missions of Dynasty Warriors and Warriors Orochi.

Another good thing about this game is that the enemies will kick your ass. Just a few hits and you'll be at half health or even in the red, trying to get to safety.

Really fantastic product overall.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on June 29, 2011, 05:18:35 PM
haha i seem to be the only person on the internet who got this

bomba

I bought it today.  Will probably start playing later this week when I have a few hours to play.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on June 29, 2011, 08:12:38 PM
Unlocked Loran and tried Turn A. I had high hopes because the Turn A is my favorite Gundam mobile suit.

And...it didn't disappoint. Pooled like 50k gold into Loran and Turn A.

Loran, my love.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Bebpo on June 29, 2011, 08:22:20 PM
Wat

Did you play GM1/2?  Turn A was great back then, but he's super nerfed now.  I got frustrated everytime I tried to use him because he was so weak.  Turn A vs. mobile armor = CRY ON
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on June 29, 2011, 08:32:26 PM
This is my first GM.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Bebpo on June 29, 2011, 09:02:47 PM
I envy you

40 full mobile suits to use.  All new and exciting with their movelists and musous.  You will get a lot of play out of this.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Van Cruncheon on June 30, 2011, 01:37:22 AM
awesome musou. one of the best yet
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on June 30, 2011, 03:12:10 AM
Jesus Christ, I take back what I say about Turn A. Either that or it's this Memorial Mission I'm trying to complete which is ridiculous. I'm fighting like 4 ace pilots at once and doing shit damage. I find Turn A to be really random. Its level 2 air SP attack is pretty good, and I've killed enemies with almost full bars with it, but on the other hand, it takes forever to get some mobile suits' health down. What the fuck.

For the record this mission is rated 4 stars in terms of difficulty. I'm gonna try with my 00 because this shouldn't be this tough. Maybe I'm underleveled. My Turn A is level 22 and I haven't been able to upgrade the stats due to lack of cash.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Bebpo on June 30, 2011, 11:35:49 AM
Turn A just does weak damage.  It's a bad unit in this one.  Use Turn X instead; much better.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on July 01, 2011, 01:54:34 AM
The more I play this the better it gets. This game will chew your balls and spit them out on your face. The full realization of the strategy elements of Musou. Really, really great. Once again proving that whoever labels these games as mindless is a dumbass.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on July 01, 2011, 01:56:36 AM
Also, online is fucking fun and hilarious. It is such a hilarious kill fest. Everyone goes off on separate parts of the map so we just kill whatever by ourselves.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on July 05, 2011, 03:15:27 AM
From SA :lol

(http://i.imgur.com/IuUJF.jpg)
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on July 17, 2011, 09:50:31 AM
I've spent maybe eight hours playing this game so I'll offer my useless impressions.

The positives:

+ This is yet another departure from the typical Musou fold.  This is just an obligatory complaint that reviewers have been way the fuck wrong about this series since 2003.
+ Most stylistic Gundam Musou.  I don't watch the anime but it looks closer to an anime than the previous entries.
+ The difficulty.  Even on easy, you can find yourself thrown against the wall and destroyed if you're not paying attention.  Probably the most difficult Musou game I've ever played.  You can't really get away with hitting XXXXXXXXXXXX without finding yourself fucked in a large area with lots of enemies, even on the easiest difficulty.
+ Best take on the Strikeforce formula.  I hated DW Strikeforce with a passion but DWG3 makes this formula playable.  I think maybe I hated the extreme jankiness of DW Strikeforce over the formula of the level layout itself.

The negatives:

- The most claustrophobic Gundam Musou.  I liked the original's large areas, even if it was mostly empty.  These areas are so tiny.  I half expect Gundam Musou 4 to just be nothing more than lots of tiny corridors.
- I hate how pilots will respawn several times throughout a stage.  It was my biggest pet peeve with the first two and it seems to have been made worse with this one.

I think it is a great game.  I still find the original to be the best (I even got the 100,000 KO achievement) with this being the second best (sorry, the second one never really clicked with me that well).  After playing these games for nine years, I still love the Musou series and will probably never really get tired of the formula.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: MrAngryFace on August 22, 2011, 10:29:49 AM
Favorite GP suit go!

Mine is the Ginn from Seed. It's got dem battleship bustin torpedoes in it's air super.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on August 22, 2011, 10:30:44 AM
Burning Gundam
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: MrAngryFace on August 22, 2011, 10:35:17 AM
General production mobile suits tho. My favorite custom suit/Gundam is Char's Zaku II...have you seen that motherfucker haul ass with Char as the pilot? Godlike
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on August 22, 2011, 10:38:15 AM
Burning Gundam with Domon is like penis to vag, knife to butter.

Haven't really tried Char Zaku II
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: MrAngryFace on August 22, 2011, 10:40:50 AM
What is your favorite GP suit god damnit
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on August 22, 2011, 11:53:29 PM
GP suit?
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: MrAngryFace on August 22, 2011, 11:55:02 PM
general production- stuff for the red shirt scrub pilots (occationally piloted by an ace just to show how they dont need a gundam to be more awesome than everyone else).

Its actually worth taking some of the GP suits for a spin if you have a level 4 plan for them- some of them are a little crazy im- like any of the GM suits have an INSANELY powerful rifle super which is like wtf.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on August 22, 2011, 11:58:41 PM
I haven't really liked any of the grunt suits. Well, I really like the guncannon because I'm a huge Kai fan. I like how they include Guncannon's awkwardness.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: MrAngryFace on August 23, 2011, 12:05:04 AM
Yeah- to be honest they did a much better job with the movesets- I mean they still dont have a full tree of moves- but the limited tree is much more different between each suit. Worth messing around with them once in a while- course right now im busy unlocking licenses so not much time for goofin around:(
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on August 23, 2011, 12:12:25 AM
Best thing? Plans plan plans plans. what are your stats like
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: MrAngryFace on August 23, 2011, 12:16:43 AM
All I use whenever possible is a maxxed out Unicorn- level 4 plan with full mod slots omgggggggggggggggggggggggggggggg. Unicorn so cheesy.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on August 23, 2011, 12:23:41 AM
unicorn is nuts
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: MrAngryFace on August 23, 2011, 01:03:24 AM
Really is, I mean the 00 suits are close because they also have the trans am period after their musou, but Unicorn essentially keeps ALL of its enhanced capabilities for a time after its musou- so its so easy to just crank up another level 1 musou and extend it over and over. I also like how you can do unicorn's musou far enough away from a boss so that it doesnt trigger their usual musou attack right when they see you on Normal or higher- so you can pretty much hit musou last second and one shot them haha.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on August 23, 2011, 01:07:59 AM
i think one time I was in unicorn mode the entire stage :lol
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: MrAngryFace on August 23, 2011, 01:24:48 AM
and really, who wouldnt wanna be?
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Mr. Gundam on August 23, 2011, 02:34:22 AM
Damn straight. MAF bringing the truth bombs.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: MrAngryFace on August 23, 2011, 11:25:07 AM
Was hoping for another 00 gundam but it looks like 3 more dlc missions today.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on August 23, 2011, 11:31:29 AM
too much 00
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Mr. Gundam on August 23, 2011, 11:53:07 AM
They staggered the mobile suit and mission pack DLC in Japan, I'm sure they'll do it the same way in North America.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: MrAngryFace on August 23, 2011, 11:58:34 AM
Sorry Stringer- but I want Seraphim Gundam so bad
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on August 25, 2011, 10:40:59 AM
MAF

ON FACEBOOK I HAVE KOEI AS A "LIKE" I SAW THEY UPLOADED DW7 XTREME LEGENDS PICS TO THEIR ALBUM.

WE'RE GETTING DW7XL
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: MrAngryFace on August 25, 2011, 11:55:07 AM
nifty- ill take whatever musou they wanna throw at meNOWWHERETHEFUCKISDOMESTICRELEASEOFSAMWARRIORS3Z+EMPIRES?!?!??!
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on August 25, 2011, 11:56:30 AM
I want Empires too!
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: MrAngryFace on August 25, 2011, 12:32:46 PM
I want DW Gundam COLONIES
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: MoxManiac on August 27, 2011, 09:17:23 AM
DW7 XL is PS3 exclusive, btw. I say this because I know you switched to 360 for DW7, himu. It's why I always buy musou games on PS3 whenever possible; it's always the lead platform.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: MrAngryFace on August 27, 2011, 09:39:59 AM
Isnt XL stand-alone though? Ive got DW7 360 too because cheevoz > shitty trophies
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: MoxManiac on August 27, 2011, 09:51:38 AM
Yeah it is. If you don't want to use the XL features with the original DW7 stuff (it adds online co-op to story mode for example, IIRC) or use your built up save it's fine.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: MrAngryFace on August 27, 2011, 10:14:44 AM
I wish they'd localize SW3 and Empires :/
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on August 27, 2011, 03:52:40 PM
i just want sw3 empires :hyper
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on August 27, 2011, 03:53:14 PM
DW7 XL is PS3 exclusive, btw. I say this because I know you switched to 360 for DW7, himu. It's why I always buy musou games on PS3 whenever possible; it's always the lead platform.

DW7 was ps3 exclusive too :smug

in japan anyways
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Mr. Gundam on August 27, 2011, 05:32:37 PM
I wish they'd localize SW3 and Empires :/

Region free PS3, duder. :rock
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on August 27, 2011, 06:01:33 PM
these games have so much kanji you'd have to be fluent or advanced level Japanese speaker to enjoy it. So no. Part of the fun of these games is the dialogue and all the extra shit. This is especially true for an Empires game, which is full of menus extravaganza.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: MrAngryFace on August 27, 2011, 06:32:18 PM
Yeah that's kind of why I havent imported Empires. I can handle standard musou games by familiar indicators alone- but empire games have more going on.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on August 27, 2011, 06:34:43 PM
[youtube=560,345]8VKjlFthmY4[/youtube]

:bow
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on August 27, 2011, 06:38:02 PM
HOLY FUCK, MOX. THIS IS WHAT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT?

So we ARE going to get DW7XL in English but it's ONLY for ps3. wtf?

http://twitter.com/#!/inspchin/status/103507691548311552

"DYNASTY WARRIORS 7: Xtreme Legends is PS3 exclusive. Xbox 360 users are allowed to voice their opinions with #DW7XL360 hash tag to the team."
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Trent Dole on August 27, 2011, 06:42:25 PM
HOLY FUCK, MOX. THIS IS WHAT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT?

So we ARE going to get DW7XL in English but it's ONLY for ps3. wtf?

http://twitter.com/#!/inspchin/status/103507691548311552

"DYNASTY WARRIORS 7: Xtreme Legends is PS3 exclusive. Xbox 360 users are allowed to voice their opinions with #DW7XL360 hash tag to the team."
Yeah, their excuse is that they couldn't fit both japanese and english voices on a 360 disc but can on PS3.  :( If SW3E got brought out internationally and was PS3 only as well that might be enough crap to push me over into getting one of Sony's failboxes.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: MrAngryFace on August 27, 2011, 06:44:02 PM
Did they just not compress the sound files? DWG3 has both languages on 360 and probably has more voice work
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on August 27, 2011, 06:50:26 PM
who gives a fuck about jaapense voices

leave japanese voices out and make it a dlc add on

thanks a lot weeaboos

buying for ps3 then
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: MrAngryFace on August 27, 2011, 06:51:54 PM
at any rate I personally dont think the voice argument makes any sense
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on August 27, 2011, 06:54:50 PM
It really doesn't. they can't just make it a download?

the thing that makes no sense is that dw7 360 outsold ps3 version, and not by a scrimmage either.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Trent Dole on August 27, 2011, 07:07:20 PM
It really doesn't. they can't just make it a download?

the thing that makes no sense is that dw7 360 outsold ps3 version, and not by a scrimmage either.
That makes this decision even more baffling. WTF, Koei?
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on August 27, 2011, 07:11:41 PM
Maybe I'm wrong and ps3 version outsold 360.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: MrAngryFace on August 27, 2011, 07:20:23 PM
le sigh
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: MoxManiac on August 27, 2011, 08:12:10 PM
HOLY FUCK, MOX. THIS IS WHAT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT?

So we ARE going to get DW7XL in English but it's ONLY for ps3. wtf?

http://twitter.com/#!/inspchin/status/103507691548311552

"DYNASTY WARRIORS 7: Xtreme Legends is PS3 exclusive. Xbox 360 users are allowed to voice their opinions with #DW7XL360 hash tag to the team."

Yeah, pretty much. Though I suppose it's not set in stone, it doesn't look good for 360. If Koei was smart they'd do DW7 XL as DLC on 360.

To be honest, we're very lucky to be getting XL at all; musou games are becoming more and more niche in the west and we're  now starting to miss out on entires (the whole PS3 SW3 series, DW strikeforce 2, several PSP games, etc etc) Back when the series was more popular we got EVERY installment and port.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on August 27, 2011, 08:20:05 PM
I'd settle for SW3: E than be snubbed the entire series.

If Koei made one Musou a year, this wouldn't be a problem, which is why they've become less popular in the west in general. I mean, DW7 came out in March/April of this year and we're getting XL already. That's fucked.

In the past year:

- DW7
- DW7XL
- DWG3
- SW3Z
- SW3E
- Troy
- Ken's Rage

that's ridiculous
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: magus on August 27, 2011, 08:23:41 PM
you know this has been bothering me for a while but it was such a stupid question that i didn't know where to ask but since there is now this thread....

why the japanese version of the game is called sengoku musou 6 and the american one dynasty warriors 7,is there a dynasty warriors that's exclusive to america? ??? don't they count the original because from what i know it's a lame soul blade ripoff? ???
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: MoxManiac on August 27, 2011, 08:56:20 PM
you know this has been bothering me for a while but it was such a stupid question that i didn't know where to ask but since there is now this thread....

why the japanese version of the game is called sengoku musou 6 and the american one dynasty warriors 7,is there a dynasty warriors that's exclusive to america? ??? don't they count the original because from what i know it's a lame soul blade ripoff? ???


sangoku musou = dynasty warriors
shin sangoku musou = dynasty warriors 2
shin sangoku musou 2 = dynasty warriors 3
shin sangoku musou 3 = dynasty warriors 4

etc etc and so forth.

sengoku musou is samurai warriors btw
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: MrAngryFace on August 27, 2011, 09:36:13 PM
I imported SW3Z just because it IS playable without an understanding of the language- ditto for DWG3, but empires haha no
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on August 28, 2011, 11:22:10 AM
I'm still grinding through DWG3.

I should be done with it by now since I've owned it for nearly two months although due to a hectic summer of work, I never got the time to sink considerable time into this game.  Anyway, it's still great but my biggest pet peeve with the game is that when a plot line ends, it does not tell me where to go next.  In other words, if I'm playing as Char and I get through all of the stages I can, I have no idea that I'm supposed to play as Banagher and unlock a few more.  I think the game is very polished otherwise but it would be nice to know where to go next vs. checking any relevant characters to see if I should continue to play as them.

Re: Musou 360 expansions getting snubbed, I think the series has already become very niche and maybe Koei doesn't want to spend the money to port these games over to the 360 to only find it selling 5,000 copies in the US.  I could be wrong.  I suppose as a Musoufag, I should own a PS3 to play these games but nah.  In the future, I won't be surprised if we just end up getting mainline Dynasty Warrior games only, with maybe the Gundam entries as well.  I'll just enjoy the games that come out, as per the usual.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: MrAngryFace on August 28, 2011, 11:52:47 AM
I'm at 60 hours and still so many licenses and folks to rep up. I just play a little each night
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on August 28, 2011, 05:06:12 PM
I imported SW3Z just because it IS playable without an understanding of the language- ditto for DWG3, but empires haha no

I'd like to play me some SW3 Empires, but don't feel like breaking out a dictionary every fifth screen, lol.

3Z and Chronicles are enough anyway.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: MrAngryFace on August 28, 2011, 05:15:31 PM
We just haven't had a good empires game since 5
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on August 28, 2011, 05:17:05 PM
at least dw5e is on 360. will get to that when I 100% DW7 and DWG3
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: MoxManiac on August 28, 2011, 06:28:14 PM
sw2e > dw5e
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: MrAngryFace on August 28, 2011, 07:25:22 PM
No yue ying, no sale
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Trent Dole on August 28, 2011, 11:05:14 PM
sw2e > dw5e
I have both. :-[
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: MrAngryFace on August 30, 2011, 01:00:00 AM
http://inspchin.wordpress.com/

Lockon isnt listed so I suspect thats tomorrow. I know thats europe, but dlc dates have matched up to this point so whutever

SEPTEMBER 6-7 – DW GUNDAM 3 DLC “ARIOS GUNDAM PACK”
 —————————————————-
 Unlocks Arios Gundam and its pilot Allelujah Haptism as a playable character. Coming on Xbox Live Marketplace on September 6th (480MSP) and PlayStation Network (Europe) on September 7th (€3.99). More info and screens, please head to the community page @ facebook.com/koeigames on Facebook

—————————————————-
 September 13-14 – DW GUNDAM 3 DLC “SERAVEE GUNDAM PACK”
 —————————————————-
 The final pack of Dynasty Warriors: Gundam DLC. Unlocks Seravee Gundam and its pilot Tieria Erde as a playable character. Coming on Xbox Live Marketplace on September 13th (480MSP) and PlayStation Network (Europe) on September 14th (€3.99). More info and screens, please head to the community page @ facebook.com/koeigames on Facebook.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on August 30, 2011, 10:46:16 AM
(http://www.abload.de/img/capturelcxg.png)

http://www.bandaigames.channel.or.jp/list/newtitle/

Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on August 30, 2011, 11:02:08 AM
Start button looks very DoA-ish

smoke in the background is very Naruto-ish

both feature ninjas and demons
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: MrAngryFace on August 30, 2011, 11:46:25 AM
Dl'ed lockon this morning- rules.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on August 30, 2011, 01:07:54 PM
Start button looks very DoA-ish

smoke in the background is very Naruto-ish

both feature ninjas and demons

Why did you post that here?  I doubt it's going to be a Musou-type game.  Expecting some RPG/Strategy-thing.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Bebpo on August 30, 2011, 01:17:46 PM
Why would anyone think it's not musou.  The only team ups Koei does is for musou games.

Been a while since we've had a new musou franchise, probably will be naruto or something but hope it's Tales of Musou.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Trent Dole on August 30, 2011, 02:02:37 PM
Why would anyone think it's not musou.  The only team ups Koei does is for musou games.

Been a while since we've had a new musou franchise, probably will be naruto or something but hope it's Tales of Musou.
Oh my god. I want this to happen.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: MrAngryFace on August 30, 2011, 03:32:10 PM
Tales of Musou sounds kinda awesome- I mean they did those PSP Tales crossover games so why not
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Bebpo on August 30, 2011, 08:22:52 PM
It's Kamen Rider Musou

I don't follow live-action sentai so zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz for me
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on August 30, 2011, 08:42:56 PM
Kamen...Rider? :wtf
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: MrAngryFace on August 30, 2011, 08:53:07 PM
lol, they have Lorans cross dressing portrait in dwg3 too
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: MrAngryFace on August 30, 2011, 09:03:25 PM
Also omg Cherudim is way fun to pilot
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Bebpo on August 31, 2011, 12:33:25 PM
Actually looks like it might be One Piece Musou

holy shit


Will find out in a few days...
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: magus on August 31, 2011, 12:40:50 PM
if you guys want a one piece action game where you make tons of nameless mook flying there is always one piece unlimited adventure

[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0toS1hhcgAQ&feature=related[/youtube]

Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on August 31, 2011, 12:54:20 PM
Actually looks like it might be One Piece Musou

holy shit


Will find out in a few days...

:wtf

Where are you getting this stuff from?  Kamen Rider?  One Piece?  Is this a Duckroll?   :P
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Bebpo on August 31, 2011, 01:01:47 PM
Unlimited adventure (at least #1, never played #2) sucked.  Not fun or good and definitely not in the same league as a Koei musou game.


Lyte: check the gaf thread on the countdown.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on August 31, 2011, 01:21:52 PM
lol, gaf countdown thread.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: magus on August 31, 2011, 01:33:55 PM
unlimited adventure is an okay game,most people seems to hate it just because there is too much shit to gather around :(

the sequel is pretty much the same game,only it includes brook and it's a 2 parter which is as stupid as it was with .hack

Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on August 31, 2011, 01:38:43 PM
if this is one piece i'm going to DIE

and play it in heaven
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: MrAngryFace on August 31, 2011, 01:45:43 PM
Yeah i'd totally be down for that
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on August 31, 2011, 01:53:08 PM
While I would NOT buy a Naruto Musou, I would be down for One Piece.  Wouldn't know who like 90% of the characters are, but whatever.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on September 01, 2011, 05:12:56 PM
POST THE ONE PIECE MUSOU SCAN
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on September 01, 2011, 05:16:51 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/YGHkQ.jpg)
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: MrAngryFace on September 01, 2011, 05:21:46 PM
PRE ORDERING AND IMPORTING THAT SHIT
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on September 01, 2011, 06:02:59 PM
bebpo tell those idiots in the gaf thread to just read the fucking manga
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Bebpo on September 01, 2011, 06:07:03 PM
hahaha

Yeah.  Manga >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anime, like 90% of manga/anime cases.  But especially so when the anime is 500+eps and will take forever to watch, whereas the manga takes probably about the same time as reading all 5 Song of Ice & Fire books.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Bebpo on September 01, 2011, 06:08:11 PM
ps, I'm guessing Gear 2 will work like Unicorn mode in GM3.  You'll turn pink and steam and stuff.  Gear 3 is probably his lvl.3 musou or combination musou.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on September 01, 2011, 06:08:47 PM
Are there more scans?
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Bebpo on September 01, 2011, 06:10:34 PM
Not yet.  There's at least the other page which might show more characters.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on September 01, 2011, 06:11:13 PM
This guy at gaf says the scans makes him want to use Chopper and Nami when we've only seen Luffy
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: MrAngryFace on September 01, 2011, 06:11:46 PM
I think he just wants to "use" nami, chopper was added to make him look normal.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on September 01, 2011, 06:12:24 PM
I'm going straight for Luffy when i get this game
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: MrAngryFace on September 01, 2011, 06:13:09 PM
Three-Sword Style all the way for me
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Bebpo on September 01, 2011, 06:15:36 PM
Zoro and Shanks will be sick sword fighters.  Maybe Mihawk too, but I doubt he's in.  Too many OP characters!  First game's roster will definitely be missing a lot, but they'll keep adding yearly.

I think he just wants to "use" nami, chopper was added to make him look normal.

hehehe
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: MrAngryFace on September 01, 2011, 06:18:09 PM
Well it'll be popular- judging by the success the DW Gundam titles have had im positive we'll see at least one or two more entries
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Bebpo on September 01, 2011, 06:35:15 PM
One Piece is the most popular anime/manga brand in Japan.  Every new volume of the manga sells like 2-3 million copies.
Musou games on PS3 are some of the best selling games on the system


The combination as a x-mas game is going to be $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ 
I think this will be the highest selling musou game.  Dunno if it'll hit 1 million (Gundam Musou was like 400k iirc), but it'll do A LOT.  Sequels are practically guaranteed.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: MrAngryFace on September 01, 2011, 06:38:24 PM
I can totally believe that- should do well enough in the states too I think
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on September 01, 2011, 06:42:10 PM
i remember one volume of one piece (i think the latest?) is the best selling book (like, period) in Japan's history.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Mr. Gundam on September 01, 2011, 08:08:15 PM
I can't believe you guys didn't make a thread for this.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on September 01, 2011, 08:12:28 PM
there's so many musou games out now and coming that i don't see the point in making a new thread :lol
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Sho Nuff on September 01, 2011, 08:32:33 PM
Why is Luffy wearing a bra
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Trent Dole on September 01, 2011, 08:41:58 PM
Why is Luffy wearing a bra
To show off the fact that he fucked Nami?
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on September 01, 2011, 08:46:52 PM
it's a scar
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Van Cruncheon on September 01, 2011, 10:13:21 PM
I'm going straight for Luffy when i get this game

cosign, i said COSIGN
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Van Cruncheon on September 01, 2011, 10:14:03 PM
Why is Luffy wearing a bra

bro, BRO, BROBROBRO it's where fucking akainu PUNCHED A HOLE IN HIM omg i am such a loser
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Van Cruncheon on September 01, 2011, 10:18:17 PM
also himu if there is co-op play i am gonna nakama up with you and play as IVANKOV-SAMA
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Van Cruncheon on September 01, 2011, 10:19:21 PM
you will be shirahoshi
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: MrAngryFace on September 01, 2011, 10:37:20 PM
Why is Luffy wearing a bra

(http://i.imgur.com/BzDEA.png)
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Mr. Gundam on September 02, 2011, 12:15:02 AM
there's so many musou games out now and coming that i don't see the point in making a new thread :lol

Yes, but it's One Piece, and a bunch of you love jizzing all over it.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Bebpo on September 02, 2011, 12:46:40 AM
But we jizz with tact  8)
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Mr. Gundam on September 02, 2011, 01:39:02 AM
So why is One Piece crossing over with Sangoku Musou characters? Fist of the North Star and Gundam didn't need to do this, why One Piece?
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on September 02, 2011, 01:53:37 AM
what are you talking about? We haven't seen any details in this thread aside from that shitty scan.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Mr. Gundam on September 02, 2011, 02:00:21 AM
what are you talking about? We haven't seen any details in this thread aside from that shitty scan.

I misread the Andria Sang article. The way it's worded makes it sound like it's a crossover game, when all Anoop was trying to convey is that the two companies are crossing over to make the game.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on September 02, 2011, 02:48:54 AM
I never thought that I could ever hate my fellow One Piece brothers but the gaf thread for this thread has managed to do it. TALK ABOUT THE GAME. Is there ANY info on this game on the internets? A clear scan? ANYTHING?
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Madrun Badrun on September 02, 2011, 02:50:42 AM
(http://i411.photobucket.com/albums/pp191/koeiwarriors/BlackKite/sitenews/oppw-n1.jpg)
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on September 02, 2011, 02:51:50 AM
Umm
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on September 02, 2011, 02:55:29 AM
also himu if there is co-op play i am gonna nakama up with you and play as IVANKOV-SAMA

yes yes YES
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Madrun Badrun on September 02, 2011, 03:04:17 AM
:lol I didn't see you post, the image wasn't loading before.  sorry himu.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on September 02, 2011, 03:06:56 AM
I'm sorry Mike. It's...it's just...I'M SO DAMN HAPPY. This year has been amazing for games and now this. It's like it's a sign that there really IS a god!
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: pancakesandsex on September 02, 2011, 09:37:43 AM
I'm sorry Mike. It's...it's just...I'M SO DAMN HAPPY. This year has been amazing for games and now this. It's like it's a sign that there really IS a god!

What religion will you pick this time?
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on September 02, 2011, 12:21:19 PM
It seems Dynasty Warriors 7 Xtreme Legends may end up PS3-only.   :-\
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on September 02, 2011, 01:02:22 PM
I'm sorry Mike. It's...it's just...I'M SO DAMN HAPPY. This year has been amazing for games and now this. It's like it's a sign that there really IS a god!

What religion will you pick this time?

Odaism

It seems Dynasty Warriors 7 Xtreme Legends may end up PS3-only.   :-\

why can't they just 360 version downloadable
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on September 02, 2011, 01:08:19 PM
why can't they just 360 version downloadable

Hope this is the case.  I mean, you don't NEED DW7 to play XL, but I'd like to link that stuff.  May be buying DW7 on PS3...again. 
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on September 02, 2011, 01:11:19 PM
lol
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: MrAngryFace on September 02, 2011, 01:15:38 PM
Im honestly getting kinda tired of these weird quirky decisions to go console exclusive
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on September 02, 2011, 01:21:38 PM
One Piece Musou better come out in America. I know One Piece in USA has been tainted but if every One Piece fan in America doesn't buy that game if it comes over, there will be hell.

It better be on 360 too but I won't complain if they bring it over in general.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Mr. Gundam on September 02, 2011, 02:06:35 PM
Im honestly getting kinda tired of these weird quirky decisions to go console exclusive

XL was more than likely initially developed with Japan in mind. And in Japan, the 360 isn't doing a whole hell of a lot, and I'm guessing they didn't want to develop one for the rest of the world.

One Piece Musou WAS made specifically for the Japanese market, so why bother making a 360 version when it's gonna sell like shit? It might see a European release, but I have a feeling that it won't see the light of the day on NA shelves. Speaking of that, what was the last OP game that actually got localized for NA?
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on September 02, 2011, 02:11:03 PM
DW7 was ps3 exclusive in Japan, got 360 port in the west. Why? Because the games sale about even keel.

The last OP game localized in NA was Unlimited Adventure or whatever on the wii. OP games are Euro exclusivo now. NA fans of One Piece are damned. Funi's not even dubbing the anime past ep 205 now.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Mr. Gundam on September 02, 2011, 02:12:59 PM
DW7 was ps3 exclusive in Japan, got 360 port in the west. Why? Because the games sale about even keel.

They must have their reasons for not porting it to 360 for the rest of the world.

Quote
The last OP game localized in NA was Unlimited Adventure or whatever on the wii. OP games are Euro exclusivo now. NA fans of One Piece are damned. Funi's not even dubbing the anime past ep 205 now.

Good thing PS3 is region free.

Sounds even worse than American Gundam fans. At least they bother localizing Gundam Musou (the only Gundam title that makes it over anymore).
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on September 02, 2011, 02:13:49 PM
At least Gundam gets localized.

They fucked up on both One Piece and Gundam over here.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on September 02, 2011, 02:15:21 PM
DW7 was ps3 exclusive in Japan, got 360 port in the west. Why? Because the games sale about even keel.

They must have their reasons for not porting it to 360 for the rest of the world.

Europe got DW7 on 360 as well.

And iirc, DW7 overwhelmingly sold better on 360 in the west.

So now DW7 XL comes out and it's ps3 exclusive? That kinda makes no sense, which is the "weird" part MAF is talking about.

No biggie for me though, I own both systems, I'll get it.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Mr. Gundam on September 02, 2011, 02:15:43 PM
We used to get 75% of Gundam games localized. Now we get the Musou titles only.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on September 02, 2011, 02:17:48 PM
At least Gundam games have more than fighting games. This is why I'm so pumped for this game. One Piece is prime material for action adventure title in the Zelda vein or something like Musou. Finally, not another fucking Powerstone rip off.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: MoxManiac on September 03, 2011, 12:44:24 PM
DW7 was ps3 exclusive in Japan, got 360 port in the west. Why? Because the games sale about even keel.

They must have their reasons for not porting it to 360 for the rest of the world.

Europe got DW7 on 360 as well.

And iirc, DW7 overwhelmingly sold better on 360 in the west.

So now DW7 XL comes out and it's ps3 exclusive? That kinda makes no sense, which is the "weird" part MAF is talking about.

No biggie for me though, I own both systems, I'll get it.

They might not have wanted to spend the resources porting it to 360; XL is a pretty damn niche product, niche enough that i'm (pleasantly) suprised we're getting it at all.

One piece musou has a good chance. We haven't gotten a FOTN game in ages but we did get FOTN musou.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on September 05, 2011, 02:19:16 AM
(http://www.bandaigames.channel.or.jp/list/opm/img/main.jpg)

(http://www.andriasang.com/blog/2011/09/05/one_piece_musou_screen/2132460038.jpg)
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: MCD on September 05, 2011, 02:41:38 AM
THE ONLY GOOD PS3 GAME

I'd love to play as Akainu hohohoho.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Bebpo on September 05, 2011, 03:04:30 AM
I read that the game covers all of the events from the start of the manga to the new world.  Hmmmm....that's a lot!
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: MrAngryFace on September 05, 2011, 03:29:48 AM
Lets hope the story gets more of a Dynasty Warriors Gundam 1/FotNS treatment and less of a DW Gundam 2/3 treatment.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on September 05, 2011, 03:41:53 AM
i'd prefer dw7 style
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: MrAngryFace on September 05, 2011, 10:48:53 AM
Well I was thinking past anime examples but sure....that's another good example. I'd also dig if they used the team/ character swapping approach from samurai warriors chronicles
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on September 05, 2011, 11:20:33 AM
Well I was thinking past anime examples but sure....that's another good example. I'd also dig if they used the team/ character swapping approach from samurai warriors chronicles

Warriors Orochi style.  Nakama stick together and all that crap, right?

I'm sure that since this is a prime title to be milked to infinite, nobody should be expecting them to cram in all the story.  I don't follow One Piece...is there enough material post time skip for a game story already?
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: MrAngryFace on September 05, 2011, 11:23:07 AM
YeH that's true, that fits better, I guess I just kinda liked the management in chronicles
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Van Cruncheon on September 05, 2011, 02:15:33 PM
they can use pre timeskip material with post-timeskip abilities, i want to destroy arlong or crocodile with king's haki gear 2nd
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Van Cruncheon on September 05, 2011, 02:16:44 PM
i also want to actually BEAT the three admirals at the battle of marineford, too
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Van Cruncheon on September 05, 2011, 02:18:20 PM
chances are, though, they'll have two versions of luffy: pre- and post-timeskip
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: MCD on September 05, 2011, 02:21:21 PM
Well I was thinking past anime examples but sure....that's another good example. I'd also dig if they used the team/ character swapping approach from samurai warriors chronicles

Warriors Orochi style.  Nakama stick together and all that crap, right?

I'm sure that since this is a prime title to be milked to infinite, nobody should be expecting them to cram in all the story.  I don't follow One Piece...is there enough material post time skip for a game story already?
No but they could always use the time skip and fabricate their own story.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: MCD on September 05, 2011, 02:22:11 PM
i also want to actually BEAT the three admirals at the battle of marineford, too
But you can't beat Kizaru.

SPEED OF LIGHT KICKS.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: MrAngryFace on September 05, 2011, 02:53:00 PM
Im sure they can do both- pre and post timeskip- just look at amuro and char
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on September 05, 2011, 02:55:22 PM
Only one arc has been happened post-timeskip and it's not even done
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: MCD on September 05, 2011, 03:13:20 PM
And it's the worst arc too.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on September 05, 2011, 03:14:03 PM
awwww can it :D
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: MCD on September 05, 2011, 03:15:33 PM
Yup.

I will save all my rage till later, when I destroy you with my MARINE JUSTICE.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on September 05, 2011, 03:17:05 PM
They could have so many cool characters in this.

Luffy alone:

Timeskip Luffy
Pre-timeskip Luffy
Afro Luffy
Zombie Luffy
Candle Luffy
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: MCD on September 05, 2011, 03:19:08 PM
Okama Sanji
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on September 05, 2011, 03:27:49 PM
Monster form Chopper
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on September 05, 2011, 07:58:44 PM
(http://images.saiyanisland.com/data/590/One-Piece-Kaizoku-Musou-Luffy.jpg)
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on September 05, 2011, 08:58:15 PM
(http://videogamerx.gamedonga.co.kr/zbxe/files/attach/images/699943/515/661/001/9ed5d0a7daa13828d72b61dc35dc141c.jpg)
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: MrAngryFace on September 05, 2011, 09:04:23 PM
Looks awesome
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: MCD on September 05, 2011, 11:41:47 PM
Yup.

Looks much better than Fist of the North Star Musou.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: MrAngryFace on September 05, 2011, 11:48:20 PM
That aside, FotNS Musou was a pretty solid game. Managed to provide a pretty unique experience.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on September 06, 2011, 06:27:28 AM
[youtube=560,345]6zETa-eXcjA[/youtube]
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on September 06, 2011, 09:04:13 AM
That aside, FotNS Musou was a pretty solid game. Managed to provide a pretty unique experience.

I had more fun with Hokuto Musou than anything else Koei put out last year.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: MrAngryFace on September 06, 2011, 02:51:10 PM
Arios DLC is out today- A weird ass mix of Zeta and Cherudim; personally I still like Cherudim the most out of all the DLC suits; Kshatriya just feels OP and Susanoo falls into that same focused melee trap of a suit that Epyon is in. Not enough range, a little too focused of a strike zone = useless. Burning Gundam gets away with being a melee gundam cause OMG dem burst attacks. All of that aside, mega excited for Seravee next week.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: magus on September 07, 2011, 06:53:01 PM
[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ewYRv4d_lXM[/youtube] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> One piece
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Bebpo on September 07, 2011, 06:58:00 PM
First XB, now hating on OP; I thought you were my friend, magus :(  Where did all your wacky jappy go??
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: MrAngryFace on September 07, 2011, 06:58:12 PM
Lol I'll pass
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: magus on September 07, 2011, 07:01:20 PM
First XB, now hating on OP; I thought you were my friend, magus :(  Where did all your wacky jappy go??

sssshhhh! i'm trying to annoy himuro!
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Bebpo on September 07, 2011, 07:06:48 PM
That's easy, just make a thread about Suikoden.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: MoxManiac on September 13, 2011, 02:48:59 PM
got my DW7 platinum :hyper I'm ready for XL!
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on September 13, 2011, 02:58:13 PM
That's easy, just make a thread about Suikoden.

 :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Mr. Gundam on September 13, 2011, 03:06:05 PM
I'm guessing we'll see a video of One Piece Musou at the Sony TGS conference tonight.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on September 13, 2011, 03:16:23 PM
:hyper :hyper :hyper

WHAT TIME
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: MrAngryFace on September 13, 2011, 03:18:14 PM
last gundam released today *tear* but its awesome *tear---of joy*
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Mr. Gundam on September 13, 2011, 03:37:22 PM
:hyper :hyper :hyper

WHAT TIME

8pm PST is the conference. Don't be upset if it's not there, but last year's conference had Gundam Musou 3 and Sangoku Musou 3907848whatever.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Bebpo on September 13, 2011, 04:40:09 PM
Probably most of the footage will be at the Namco Bandai conference tomorrow along with new Tales and GvG E and stuff.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Mr. Gundam on September 13, 2011, 06:43:34 PM
Probably most of the footage will be at the Namco Bandai conference tomorrow along with new Tales and GvG E and stuff.

Namco Bandai unveiled a ton at Sony's conference last year. Gundam Musou 3, Sangoku Musou, Dark Souls, etc. Wouldn't be surprised if we get trailers for Gundam Extreme Versus and One Piece Musou tonight.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on September 13, 2011, 11:22:35 PM
I just want to know who the final six new characters are in Sengoku Basara 3 Utage!  Is Capcom showing anything in these conferences?
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on September 15, 2011, 01:03:57 AM
One Piece Musou reveal in 30 minutes.

Here's some 2ch rumors.

Quote
So far the agreed characters are 11+2
The characters that are available in the vanilla are the entire Strawhats (Luffy, Zoro, Nami, Usopp, Sanji, Chopper, Nico, Franky, Brook), along with Ace and Whitebeard.
Buggy and Vivi will be also available but through DLCs.

If the sales (both game & DLCs?) are favorable, they may consider adding Enel and Crocodile as well. Their movesets are very detailed for NPCs so they could be brought over as extra DLCs.
And if the sales get even more favorable, they might even consider adding the Three Generals (Aokiji, Kizaru, Akainu) as well.
So if all these are included the maximum number of characters will be 11+7 = 18

There are many characters that can't be cloned, but adding people with Rogia fruits would be difficult since their immunity to long-range attacks could break the game.
People like Kuma also have well-detailed movesets, but they'll just make him NPC.

How the storyline goes is that each of the Strawhats will have their prologue stages, and after that you can play some stages with any of the available crews.
For example in the Alabasta stage, everyone fights on the same stage and you can pick any of the crews at that point as the playable character (Luffy, Zoro, Nami, Usopp, Sanji, Chopper), and after that you move on to a duel event battle with the character restricted to Luffy (vs Crocodile perhaps?)

Quote
There will be Online co-op and you can co-op in the Free mode
There also seems to be stages which look like puzzles, as in completing a picture or such.
He said not to look forward too much on the Online co-op though, as in it's just there just for the sake of it.

Luffy's scarred costume will have special effects (just like Toki's healthy costume in Hokuto), as in his Musou finisher becomes different and Gear 2 lasts longer.
Other characters' post-timeskip costumes are not available, but perhaps they would be added as DLCs?

Regarding in-game costumes though, it seems like there will be around 3 costumes for each Strawhats at least (though I wonder whether there will be real alternate costumes or just alternate colors)

They're projecting March for release.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Bebpo on September 15, 2011, 01:09:30 AM
I get Ace, but of all the 2ndary characters to make playable...Whitebeard?  Buggy makes sense, Vivi makes no sense.  WHERE IS MY SHANKS
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on September 15, 2011, 01:10:36 AM
Vivi makes sense because she's different. her peacock blades are long-ranged.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Bebpo on September 15, 2011, 01:50:16 AM
But who wants to play as vivi wtf
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on September 15, 2011, 01:52:19 AM
Who cares? Maybe she's fun.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on September 15, 2011, 01:52:30 AM
watched the trailer. looks sweet.

edit:

[youtube=560,345]jVitA6ucv4U[/youtube]
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Bebpo on September 15, 2011, 02:51:17 AM
Yep, looks like musou.

Rumor might be true, might not.  We know Strawhats, Ace, 3 generals, Kuma/Pacifista are in so far.  Don't know which are playable and which aren't.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Van Cruncheon on September 15, 2011, 11:16:04 AM
NO IVANKOV-SAMA??????
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: magus on September 16, 2011, 04:53:57 AM
http://www.siliconera.com/2011/09/15/tales-of-the-heroes-twin-brave-headed-to-psp-but-it-isnt-an-rpg/

scan (it's pretty big so i'm putting it in spoiler tags)

spoiler (click to show/hide)
(http://38.imagebam.com/download/Ix1GTmyOPBo6htAxabWyAg/14955/149546093/0443.jpg)
[close]
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on September 16, 2011, 07:03:57 PM
[youtube=560,345]JuchQOlg3zQ[/youtube]
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Bebpo on September 18, 2011, 03:34:54 AM
Fist of the North Star is on sale for $9.99 X360 & PS3 at amazon right now.  At that price I'll finally give this musou a shot.  Should hold me over in anime musou until One Piece.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003NSECW8/ref=pd_1ctyhuc__sbs_02_01
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: MrAngryFace on September 18, 2011, 11:46:47 AM
It's a lot of fun
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: cool breeze on September 18, 2011, 01:01:35 PM
Ordered that last night.  lotta hate for it in the gaf thread.  The demo wasn't great but w/e, I wa shock by that price.

actually, I might have liked the demo.  It's saved in the "demo" folder on my PS3, which is usually a reminder that I need to buy the full game eventually.  Maybe I liked it and forgot.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Bebpo on September 18, 2011, 01:18:46 PM
Hey Lyte Edge, what's the deal with Basara 3 Utage?

Is it an expansion that has new characters/gameplay-systems but is missing all the storylines of Basara 3?  Or is it the superior version of Basara 3 with even more content and better gameplay?


Now that Basara 3 is getting pretty low in price around the world (still not touching the US version because I don't want dub-only Japanese warriors, but asia/jpn have greatest hits out for about $30), I'm thinking about grabbing Basara 3 and then Utage, but I'd rather just get Utage if it replaces Basara 3. 
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: MrAngryFace on September 18, 2011, 01:41:09 PM
Link: gaf is distinguished mentally-challenged- its a really fun game
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on September 18, 2011, 02:00:47 PM
Hey Lyte Edge, what's the deal with Basara 3 Utage?

Is it an expansion that has new characters/gameplay-systems but is missing all the storylines of Basara 3?  Or is it the superior version of Basara 3 with even more content and better gameplay?


Now that Basara 3 is getting pretty low in price around the world (still not touching the US version because I don't want dub-only Japanese warriors, but asia/jpn have greatest hits out for about $30), I'm thinking about grabbing Basara 3 and then Utage, but I'd rather just get Utage if it replaces Basara 3. 

It's an expansion with new characters/content, including 2P modes, new stages, 14 new characters, and some type of tag mode.  Unification mode is also returning.  There are new stories for the new characters and tweaks/new moves for the returning characters.

Nobody seems to be mentioning anything about Utage at TGS, so I guess Capcom still hasn't unveiled the final six new characters on the roster.

OLD video:

[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqQAyGxU_lM[/youtube]
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on September 18, 2011, 02:06:33 PM
Link: gaf is distinguished mentally-challenged- its a really fun game

I loved it, and if the save data from the J version was compatible with the U.S. version, I'd order it for ten bucks.  Awesome game if you are a fan of FoTN, pretty good if you like musou, and OMGHOLYSHIT if you like both.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Bebpo on September 18, 2011, 04:22:09 PM
Hey Lyte Edge, what's the deal with Basara 3 Utage?

Is it an expansion that has new characters/gameplay-systems but is missing all the storylines of Basara 3?  Or is it the superior version of Basara 3 with even more content and better gameplay?


Now that Basara 3 is getting pretty low in price around the world (still not touching the US version because I don't want dub-only Japanese warriors, but asia/jpn have greatest hits out for about $30), I'm thinking about grabbing Basara 3 and then Utage, but I'd rather just get Utage if it replaces Basara 3. 

It's an expansion with new characters/content, including 2P modes, new stages, 14 new characters, and some type of tag mode.  Unification mode is also returning.  There are new stories for the new characters and tweaks/new moves for the returning characters.

Nobody seems to be mentioning anything about Utage at TGS, so I guess Capcom still hasn't unveiled the final six new characters on the roster.

OLD video:

[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqQAyGxU_lM[/youtube]

Yeah but can I just jump straight into Utage and skip Basara 3?  Or is it missing the stories for the old non-Utage characters?  I like the crazy Basara stories so I don't want to only get Utage if it means missing out on all the story mode content from Basara 3.

What I'm asking is if Utage is set to include all the content from Basara 3 + the new content?  Like how SB2: Heroes was on Wii.  Or if it's a pure expansion pack that ditches all the old content and is only about new content like musou expansion packs?

The new character swap mode and gameplay changes seem cool, so it'd be nice to play through the Basara 3 stories using them.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on September 18, 2011, 04:26:43 PM

Yeah but can I just jump straight into Utage and skip Basara 3?  Or is it missing the stories for the old non-Utage characters?  I like the crazy Basara stories so I don't want to only get Utage if it means missing out on all the story mode content from Basara 3.

What I'm asking is if Utage is set to include all the content from Basara 3 + the new content?  Like how SB2: Heroes was on Wii.  Or if it's a pure expansion pack that ditches all the old content and is only about new content like musou expansion packs?

The new character swap mode and gameplay changes seem cool, so it'd be nice to play through the Basara 3 stories using them.


I just answered this for you, dude.  It's an expansion for SB3, so it likely will not include SB3's storylines, only the new ones.  SB2 Heroes on Wii was like this too-- they gave you both the original SB2 and Heroes in the same package was all...still two separate titles.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Bebpo on September 18, 2011, 04:30:23 PM
Hmm, ok.  Thought SB2 Heroes was like "directors cut" with all the SB2 content + Heroes content together. 

Guess will buy SB3 and Utage.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on September 27, 2011, 09:19:21 PM
Anoop just posted that Famitsu is going to reveal the newest Musou Orochi title, due out for PS3 and 360!

He mistook it for Musou Orochi 2 though, lol.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Mr. Gundam on September 27, 2011, 09:35:48 PM
Famitsu lists PS3 only, but that's probably just for Japan.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on September 27, 2011, 10:08:16 PM
:bow

OW3

WANT
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on September 27, 2011, 10:20:59 PM
OW3 will have 120 characters!   :o

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Tecmo Koei is adding social aspects to its Musou Orochi series sequel, Musou Orochi 2. In its reveal article on the game this week, Famitsu details a scenario customization system.

Players can create custom scenarios for the game. These can be uploaded to a server for other players to download. Players can leave comments about user created scenarios, helping to build up a community of Orochi fans.

Famitsu's first report on Musou Orochi 2, the next entry in the series that's known internationally as Warriors Orochi, lists a release time frame of December. Our initial report said that the game is coming to both PS3 and Xbox 360. PS3 is confirmed, but we're not sure about 360 just yet.


Famitsu lists PS3 only, but that's probably just for Japan.

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Here's the final word on the platform status for Musou Orochi 2. The game is coming to both PS3 and Xbox 360. Famitsu lists the two platforms in its reveal article this week.

We originally reported the game as due for both platforms based off some blurry images from Famitsu, but got spooked when none of our usual flying get sources listed 360 along with PS3. We've now seen a clear shot of the magazine, and it does indeed list both platforms.

Platform aside, here's one intriguing gameplay bit to go along with the scenario customization system details we provided earlier. The magazine says that the game will have over 120 characters -- the most for the series.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: MrAngryFace on September 27, 2011, 10:40:58 PM
OW3 = boner academy - also its OW, import total
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Bebpo on September 27, 2011, 10:47:40 PM
Is the Orochi series any good?  Or is it just fanservice of having all these characters in one game?
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Trent Dole on September 27, 2011, 11:11:44 PM
Is the Orochi series any good?  Or is it just fanservice of having all these characters in one game?
Orochi games are fuck awesome and the first two had insane 'cheevs to get. Prior to DW7 being released I'm pretty sure WO2 was the go to game for musouage.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: MrAngryFace on September 27, 2011, 11:23:59 PM
Orochi games rule - Hell, even the OW2 port on PSP isnt HORRIBLE
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on September 29, 2011, 02:07:02 PM
http://www.famitsu.com/news/201109/29051014.html

OW3 pics
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: MrAngryFace on September 29, 2011, 02:09:28 PM
Hot damn that looks good
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on September 29, 2011, 03:58:31 PM
So weird that they are calling it "Musou Orochi 2" in Japan. 
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Bebpo on September 29, 2011, 04:39:18 PM
Should I play a mainline DW game before Orochi so I know who these characters are and go "OMG I GET TO SEE CHA CHA FIGHT WONG XUI!!!" when I play Orochi?  I've only played the first Samurai Warriors and the spinoff musou games.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: MrAngryFace on September 29, 2011, 05:47:24 PM
7 is a really good entry, and has an excellent story mode.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: MrAngryFace on September 29, 2011, 05:48:01 PM
So weird that they are calling it "Musou Orochi 2" in Japan. 

Did one of the first two get released under a different name?
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on September 29, 2011, 05:57:01 PM
So weird that they are calling it "Musou Orochi 2" in Japan. 

Did one of the first two get released under a different name?

Yup...Musou Orochi and Musou Orochi: Maoh Sairin are the Japanese names. 

Should I play a mainline DW game before Orochi so I know who these characters are and go "OMG I GET TO SEE CHA CHA FIGHT WONG XUI!!!" when I play Orochi?  I've only played the first Samurai Warriors and the spinoff musou games.

I don't think it matters much, TBH.  I'd say get Musou Orochi Z on PS3, but with the third game hitting in December, might as well wait!
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Bebpo on September 29, 2011, 07:00:03 PM
7 is a really good entry, and has an excellent story mode.

Been waiting for a price drop since release.  It's still $50-60!

When it's $30 or less I'm all over it.

I don't think it matters much, TBH.  I'd say get Musou Orochi Z on PS3, but with the third game hitting in December, might as well wait!

The thing is that most crossover games aren't that fun unless you know the material being crossed over.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Trent Dole on September 29, 2011, 07:10:54 PM
Uh, the basic story of Dynasty Warriors is a bunch of different Chinese dudes want to run China and kill lots of other dudes whilst vying for said privilege. Samurai Warriors is the same story except swap out Japan/Japanese for China/Chinese. 8)
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on September 29, 2011, 07:14:46 PM
lol @ DW7 being 30 dollars or less

Bebpo are you in the dark? Just get a used copy of DW7.

DW7's story mode owns and is great fan service if you remotely enjoy the novel/story. It's the only DW I've played where the story is actually something that resembles having a plot.

Samurai Warriors is a Japan's greatest warriors greatest hits.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on September 29, 2011, 08:56:07 PM

The thing is that most crossover games aren't that fun unless you know the material being crossed over.

The story in the Orochi games is self-contained...DW and SW base themselves on historical events.  Orochi is all fantasy.  What is there to know besides picking characters that interest you and beating the shit out of enemies?
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on September 29, 2011, 09:04:40 PM
i kinda get what bebpo means. I've never really invested time into a samurai warriors game so I tend to lean on the DW side when I played WO2.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: MrAngryFace on September 29, 2011, 09:38:38 PM
SW3z rules, wish it got localized
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: MoxManiac on September 30, 2011, 07:23:09 PM
Orochi 3  :drool :drool :drool :drool

Deng Ai/Guo Huai/Kanbei Kuroda all day long
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Trent Dole on September 30, 2011, 08:16:48 PM
December in Japan for Orochi 3 with a dual platform release.  Can't make its way over here soon enough. :hyper
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Bebpo on October 01, 2011, 05:03:52 AM
lol @ DW7 being 30 dollars or less

Bebpo are you in the dark? Just get a used copy of DW7.


Do musou games not drop price or go on sale?

I know Fist of the North Star took FOREVER, but when it did drop it was $10!  And it had been at $20 a few times.  I'm not in a rush so I can wait for a good DW7 price unless you are saying it's not going to drop.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on October 01, 2011, 05:39:04 AM
they rarely drop in price. ken's rage bombed iirc, look at how much warriors orochi 2 costs. you're better off just buying it now for like 40 dollars.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: MoxManiac on October 02, 2011, 12:45:46 PM
A 360 version in japan all but confirms a NA release.  :hyper

Not that I really thought it wouldn't, but Koei has been kinda random about localizing shit lately.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Mr. Gundam on October 02, 2011, 02:03:12 PM
[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2KsaZ-jP9v8&feature=player_embedded[/youtube]
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on October 02, 2011, 04:14:36 PM
:hyper Orochi 3 :hyper

Part 2 was amazing and given the trend of newly released Musou titles, I can't wait for this one.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on October 06, 2011, 02:20:22 PM
[youtube=560,345]ohRMRDfE1Xk[/youtube]
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on October 06, 2011, 02:59:23 PM
:drool

I'm gonna end up importing this, I can feel it.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: MrAngryFace on October 06, 2011, 05:04:12 PM
me too
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on October 15, 2011, 04:25:38 AM
holy shit bonertown

[youtube=560,345]Yy2rrtrnOCY[/youtube]
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Bebpo on October 20, 2011, 01:30:31 AM
I tried to get DW7 during the TRU sale since Himuro says the game won't drop in price and I do want to check it out, but no luck.  Was sold out. 

New plan is wait for Black Friday sales and see if any place discounts it, otherwise just pick it up after that at full price so I can play my first mainline DW since like...5 (it's the only other one I played and just briefly)?
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on October 20, 2011, 04:05:14 PM
Skipping 6 is not a bad thing!
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Bebpo on October 20, 2011, 04:45:05 PM
I never played 1-4 either :P  5 is the only one I played and I used maybe 2 characters.

I've mostly stuck to Samurai Warriors and musou spinoffs.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Trent Dole on October 20, 2011, 04:54:45 PM
The only cool thing about DW6 is this:
[youtube=560,345]CABw-9DW4L0[/youtube]
spoiler (click to show/hide)
Lu Bu's final stage is literally vs. EVERYONE ELSE :rock
[close]
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: MoxManiac on October 26, 2011, 06:35:38 PM
6 had a good OST
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Trent Dole on October 26, 2011, 11:44:05 PM
6 had a good OST
Every DW has a good ost. ALL BUTT ROCK ALL THE TIME~
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: MoxManiac on October 31, 2011, 09:45:42 PM
(http://i411.photobucket.com/albums/pp191/koeiwarriors/wo3-n4.jpg)

Stolen from koeiwarriors.co.uk

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This week's Famitsu has specific new info on Warriors Orochi 3 (Musou Orochi 2), which confirms the guest characters that are appearing from non-main Warriors games. The confirmed characters are Achilles from Warriors: Legends of Troy, Jeanne d'Arc from Bladestorm: The Hundred Years War, and Ryu Hayabusa from Ninja Gaiden.

White Power :bow2
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Bebpo on October 31, 2011, 10:25:40 PM
Oh fuck

Ninja Gaiden Musou
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on November 01, 2011, 03:21:44 PM
Sengoku Basara 3 Utage comes out next week!  :hyper

The Asian version is like $44 at Play-Asia.

Utage will feature 30 playable characters (all 16 from SB3 plus 16 "new" characters), although only eight have actual story modes.  Unification mode is where it's gonna be at anyway! 

01. Tokugawa Ieyasu
02. Ishida Mitsunari
03. Otani Yoshitsugu
04. Saika Magoichi
05. Kuroda Kanbei
06. Tsuruhime
07. Date Masamune
08. Sanada Yukimura
09. Maeda Keiji
10. Chosokabe Motochika
11. Mouri Motonari
12. Shimazu Yoshihiro
13. Honda Tadakatsu
14. Fuma Kotaro
15. Oichi
16. Oda Nobunaga
17. Matsunaga Hisahide
18. Katakura Koujuurou
19. Sarutobi Sasuke
20. Kobayakawa Hideaki
21. Tenkai / Akechi Mitsuhide
22. Mogami Yoshiaki
23. Tachibana Muneshige
24. Otomo Sorin
25. Uesugi Kenshin
26. Kasuga
27. Maeda Toshiie
28. Matsu
29. Takeda Shingen
30. Hojo Ujimasa

#17-24 have story modes.  The level cap is now 200 and you can buy materials at shops instead of grinding stages!

Intro:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJ24U29INew&feature=player_embedded
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on November 02, 2011, 02:41:17 AM
i still haven't gotten basara for ps3
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on November 02, 2011, 09:42:38 AM
i still haven't gotten basara for ps3

If you don't care about story mode stuff, just import the Asian version of Utage for $44.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on November 15, 2011, 01:06:57 PM
Got Sengoku Basara 3 Utage last night.  A number of new characters need to be unlocked by completing the story modes for the new characters that have them available.  Have read that the unlockable characters don't even have three additional moves that can be selected for R2; just one each.  Lazy, lazy Capcom.

Other new modes like tag are also locked and have to be unlocked by completing the story mode with everyone.  That's not something that will be difficult, but I wanted to focus on the unification mode and not bother with the story modes for what are mostly "d-list" joke character types. 

I started playing Sasuke's story mode.  While some stages from SB3 are recycled, they changed some of the layouts a bit and there are new/different enemies encountered and different bosses.

Looks like the game is pretty packed with modes/level paths/items once everything is unlocked.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Bebpo on November 15, 2011, 01:46:00 PM
That sounds kind of lazy on Capcom's part.  Locking almost everything to extend game game length. 

So are you saying ALL the new characters don't have 3 additional moves for R2?  Or just some of the more minor ones?
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on November 15, 2011, 04:12:24 PM
That sounds kind of lazy on Capcom's part.  Locking almost everything to extend game game length. 

So are you saying ALL the new characters don't have 3 additional moves for R2?  Or just some of the more minor ones?

All the added playable characters with story modes (10 of them, I think) have full move sets.  The extra six do not, which is lame.  I want to unlock at least one of them first to see if that's the only thing missing from their move sets.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on November 19, 2011, 01:21:29 PM
Ayane is going to be playable in Musou Orochi 2.  The model is based on the Ninja Gaiden 2 version, but they're listing her as being from DOA.  There will also be a DOAX beach stage...wtf?   :lol
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Van Cruncheon on November 19, 2011, 01:22:48 PM
even money says she has kunoichi or nene's move set
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on November 19, 2011, 01:27:35 PM
Nemea from the Zill 0' series is also in.

So that's Dynasty Warriors, Samurai Warriors, Warriors Of Troy, Bladestorm, Ninja Gaiden, and DOA represented.  What's left...Crimson Sea maybe?
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on November 20, 2011, 10:32:19 AM
Got back to Sengoku Basara 3 Utage last night and beat Sasuke and Sorin's story modes then went to Unification Mode.  Each story mode is only three stages long, so clearing them all won't take any time.  I did have trouble on Sasuke's last stage (two bosses at once, plus their annoying guards kept getting me), so I had to drop the difficulty level down.   :-[

So while Sasuke's story is just regular ol' serious story stuff, Sorin's is...

Well holy shit.  Words cannot describe it.  It's too awesome.   :lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYd0V9ZZUwU

I unlocked Kasuga and Matsu.  The lack of additional R2 attacks doesn't hurt them at all...they still feel like complete characters.  Everyone also has an additional (chargeable) attack when you hold down square now, too.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: magus on November 20, 2011, 11:29:05 AM
the version of dynasty warrior i played had no character surfing on an aquarium

i suddenly feel very sad :fbm
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on November 20, 2011, 01:34:43 PM
Basara is the Saint's Row of Musou games.  Totally crazy, over-the-top and weird fun.

Utage isn't coming out in English or on 360, but you can always pirate the Wii version.   :P
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: magus on November 20, 2011, 01:40:46 PM
mmm you know what,you convinced me,is there any difference version between wii and ps3 besides the obvious?

what if i wanted to try one of those orochi games on the psp? are they the same as the 360 version?
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Momo on November 20, 2011, 01:52:12 PM
I have SB3, havent played it yet, just installed (PS3)
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Bebpo on November 20, 2011, 02:05:19 PM
mmm you know what,you convinced me,is there any difference version between wii and ps3 besides the obvious?

what if i wanted to try one of those orochi games on the psp? are they the same as the 360 version?

Only difference in Basara is clean visuals (no jaggies) and trophies.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on November 20, 2011, 02:06:59 PM
the version of dynasty warrior i played had no character surfing on an aquarium

i suddenly feel very sad :fbm

I told you about Basara. It has a dude who travels on a jet powered man. Yes, MAN. He jumps on him and rides him like a flying surfboard.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: magus on November 20, 2011, 02:28:28 PM
the version of dynasty warrior i played had no character surfing on an aquarium

i suddenly feel very sad :fbm

I told you about Basara. It has a dude who travels on a jet powered man. Yes, MAN. He jumps on him and rides him like a flying surfboard.

ehy one dynasty warrior like game was enough when i was grinding 7 for the 1000/1000
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on November 20, 2011, 03:55:37 PM
mmm you know what,you convinced me,is there any difference version between wii and ps3 besides the obvious?

Nope; it's just the visuals.  Capcom used MT Framework Lite for this game and the Wii version is actually pretty damn impressive in comparison to the PS3 version. 

Basara is also a more streamlined game with actual levels instead of huge open battlefields.  Grinding for stuff, if needed, doesn't feel like a chore.

Keep in mind that if you want to use SB3 save data with SB3 Utage, you need to play the Japanese version.

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what if i wanted to try one of those orochi games on the psp? are they the same as the 360 version?

Obvious (major) visual downgrade aside, they're the same games.  There's a few small things missing in WO1 PSP, but WO2 PSP is pretty much the same as the console versions.  It actually has more content than the PS2 and 360 versions do, in fact, plus a Japanese voice option.

Too much Musou is overkill though.   I sold off DW7 when I got Utage...especially with Musou Orochi 2 next month.  :drool  Will get back to DW7 with the Vita port next year.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: magus on November 20, 2011, 05:29:22 PM
well allright i guess the last question is how much i'm going to be screwed by not knowing a lick of japanese? basing on my experience of DW7 i guess not that much but you can never know
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on November 20, 2011, 06:39:58 PM
well allright i guess the last question is how much i'm going to be screwed by not knowing a lick of japanese? basing on my experience of DW7 i guess not that much but you can never know

There's plenty of FAQs and info out there.  It's pretty straightforward...again, linear stages not open battlefields like Koei games.

You could also just play Basara 3 in English then get Utage and forget the save transferring later on if you like SB3.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Momo on November 20, 2011, 07:00:41 PM
I have Basara 3 in English iirc (subs at least). There was an online co op mode right? I confess I only bought it cause it was on sale >.>
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on November 20, 2011, 09:44:17 PM
The U.S. version is dubbed.

No online co-op, just split-screen offline.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: magus on November 21, 2011, 05:23:08 PM
mmm after playing for a while i'm not sure i really want to play this in japanese,guess i'll skip the extra character
too bad because they seems to rock,this one is almost as good as sorin! :bow

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqP_BC-jdrY

the character rocks

oda shotgunada :bow
double chainsaw guy :bow
robbo guy :bow
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Don Flamenco on November 21, 2011, 05:27:28 PM
how does DW7 stack up with SWChronicles on 3DS?  character switching somehow bumped the game from "solid but boring" to "holy fuck" for me
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on November 22, 2011, 03:13:07 PM
Lyte Edge, is DW7XL worth it

how does DW7 stack up with SWChronicles on 3DS?  character switching somehow bumped the game from "solid but boring" to "holy fuck" for me

owns
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Bebpo on November 22, 2011, 03:15:51 PM
Oh yeah, it's BF week.  Maybe DW7 will finally drop in price so I can play it!
I'm getting Basara 3 (vanilla JP PS3 version) in a shipment in mid-December.  If I really like it I'll get Utage down the line.

I'm guessing we'll see/hear more about One Piece Musou at Jump Fiesta next month  :hyper
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on November 23, 2011, 10:40:17 AM
I still prefer Samurai Warriors to Dynasty Warriors.  Also in DW7 you are forced to play as specific characters in story mode.  If you like the character-switching thing, try the Warriors Orochi series.

Lyte Edge, is DW7XL worth it

No idea...I didn't get it.  I sold off DW7 and I'm not sure if I am going to get this or not, since  plan to buy DW on Vita in a few months and Musou Orochi 2 is just weeks away.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: magus on November 23, 2011, 12:04:04 PM
allright i got the vanilla english sengoku basara 3,played a little with date masamune,since i tought he would be the ryu of the game but i'm not sure i like him,i picked missions at random but i seems to understand there is a logic to follow behind it? i noticed that a lot of mission here are the same of what i got from utage when i was selecting stage's at random so i guess utage has the original stage's too? anyway

- playing the japanese version i had no idea the selection after selecting your character was the difficulty,no wonder i got my ass kicked once in a particular mission,i selected hard without realizing it
- i seems to understand that in the original accessories are created but in utage they are handed out without much cerimony? that sucks a little
- also you can only buy power up in utage while in the original money is only spent on accessories?
- aaaand what's the deal with weapon getting powered up in utage but not in the original? another difference? i noticed that in utage weapon have a level but here they don't... but it seems the character have more weapon at their disposal?
- is hero mode basicaly just bullet time? had no idea i could trigger it before... you know... playing the game in english
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Bebpo on November 23, 2011, 12:17:44 PM
This is why it's more fun to play games in a language you don't understand  8)
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: magus on November 23, 2011, 07:30:51 PM
american sorin :fbm

EDIT: aaaaahhh you know what? fuck it! i like the rpg element in utage but in the original they suck! hard! i'm going back to utage,there isn't a lot of plot to miss and most accessories give pointless effect anyway

and as a bonus i get proper sorin again,instead of tough girl sorin
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: magus on November 26, 2011, 02:50:02 PM
you know i was wondering which could be the joke weapon of sorin and i'm very pleased with the answer
spoiler (click to show/hide)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KH9RPsjBJcY
[close]

i finished story mode for 4 character and have been stuck on this one,he's almost on par on his wacky scale with sorin

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mY_3g61qT7U

one of his move goes like "look! behind you!" and distracts all the soldier in front of you and then you can beat retreat while they are distracted :lol :lol :lol
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on December 05, 2011, 12:24:07 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vtuzqF6BnFs

:rock
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on December 05, 2011, 12:59:56 PM
SO HYPE

 :hyper :hyper :hyper :hyper :hyper out of :hyper :hyper :hyper :hyper :hyper on the scale!
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Bebpo on December 05, 2011, 01:25:05 PM
When does Orochi 2 come out? 

You know, I ordered DW7 on BF and it never shipped :(  No luck with DW games I suppose.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on December 05, 2011, 01:47:10 PM
Ask them to ship it then
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Bebpo on December 05, 2011, 02:05:24 PM
I sent an e-mail.  Ordered it through one of Amazon's 3rd parties for $51 since it was the cheapest it will ever get.

What is DW7 XL?  Should I have bought that one instead?
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on December 05, 2011, 02:42:43 PM
xl is for ps3, requires dw7 original, has a few new characters, weapons, story mode co-op and not much else I think.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Bebpo on December 05, 2011, 02:44:00 PM
so you didn't get it?
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on December 05, 2011, 02:45:38 PM
nope, i'd get it it were for 360 though
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on December 05, 2011, 03:03:30 PM
When does Orochi 2 come out? 

You know, I ordered DW7 on BF and it never shipped :(  No luck with DW games I suppose.

Orochi 2 comes out in Japan this month, on the 22nd IIRC.  If you're up for importing, I'd skip DW7 and get that instead at this point.

I sent an e-mail.  Ordered it through one of Amazon's 3rd parties for $51 since it was the cheapest it will ever get.

What is DW7 XL?  Should I have bought that one instead?

xl is for ps3, requires dw7 original, has a few new characters, weapons, story mode co-op and not much else I think.

It doesn't require DW7, but you can transfer DW7 save data.  Bebpo, it's an expansion with new stages/characters/weapons, but no story for the returning characters.  I think it has new story segments for the new characters, however, and possibly some wacky side-story stuff.

I no longer own DW7 but would have picked this up, if not for Orochi 2 and the Vita DW coming out.  The Vita DW7 should end up having all the DW7+XL content and Orochi has all the characters anyway.

Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Bebpo on December 07, 2011, 10:46:14 PM
Ok, this is crap.  I just got an e-mail from play-asia that the BASARA 3 THE BEST (PS3) that I ordered 2 months ago that was supposed to ship next week with some other stuff is now "out of print".  Same with non-best version.  So Basara 3 PS3 JP is now totally out of print. 

So I can deal with crappy dub for Japanese feudal anime action beat-em-up and get US version for $16 shipped (and not have anything carry over to Utage if I buy it later).  Or I have to track down a copy on Ebay for $70 or something and then hope it even arrives.  Or I can buy Utage for $50 and miss out on all the story campaigns for the characters I like.  :|

Bleh.  Guess I'll pass on Basara 3 and wait for Basara 4 at this point.  DW7 (finally shipped, yay) and One Piece Musou and maybe Orochi 2 should hold me over.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on December 08, 2011, 11:49:27 AM
YesAsia has it.

http://www.yesasia.com/us/sengoku-basara-3-bargain-edition-japan-version/1024254813-0-0-0-en/info.html

So does GameBaz.  Never heard of them though.

http://www.gamebaz.com/?a=i&i=77925

And the expensive alternative would be NCSX...I think they still have the original for $70.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Bebpo on December 08, 2011, 04:12:25 PM
Eh, maybe I'll just stick with the Wii version.  Seems like too much of a hassle just for trophies and better graphics :|
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on December 08, 2011, 06:32:10 PM
(http://www.pepsi.co.jp/premium/download/musou_960.jpg)

 :lol

Eh, maybe I'll just stick with the Wii version.  Seems like too much of a hassle just for trophies and better graphics :|

It's a hassle to order from another website?   ???
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on December 08, 2011, 06:33:26 PM
LU BU FUCKING LOVES PEPSI, GODDAMIT
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Bebpo on December 08, 2011, 06:49:59 PM
Lyte, it's expensive for an old ass game that would be like $20 at every used store if I was living in Japan.

The only reason I was finally buying it was on the idea I'd throw it in with some other stuff on a shipment and at least not have to pay shipping.  $40 + $5 off coupon, no shipping.  Ehh, a little more reasonable.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: MrAngryFace on December 08, 2011, 06:53:23 PM
Id literally shit myself if they could pilot gundams in Orochi 3
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on December 08, 2011, 10:11:56 PM
Lyte, it's expensive for an old ass game that would be like $20 at every used store if I was living in Japan.

The only reason I was finally buying it was on the idea I'd throw it in with some other stuff on a shipment and at least not have to pay shipping.  $40 + $5 off coupon, no shipping.  Ehh, a little more reasonable.

But you're not living in Japan and it's not quite an "old ass" game yet.  I'd still go after the Japanese version with those English voices though.   :yuck
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on December 08, 2011, 10:12:49 PM
Id literally shit myself if they could pilot gundams in Orochi 3

It would be cool to have a Gundam Musou where you fight both in and outside of the mechs.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on December 11, 2011, 02:29:12 PM
http://andriasang.com/comzaq/one_piece_bundle/

one piece musou has an adventure mode that's platforming stages
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Bebpo on December 11, 2011, 06:28:05 PM
OP Musou honestly sounds like it's by the Fist of the North Star Musou staff and will be pretty similar in design and gameplay.  This makes me a little nervous, since FoTNS musou is probably the weakest musou title by a longshot this gen.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on December 11, 2011, 09:29:11 PM
OP Musou honestly sounds like it's by the Fist of the North Star Musou staff and will be pretty similar in design and gameplay.  This makes me a little nervous, since FoTNS musou is probably the weakest musou title by a longshot this gen.

I completely disagree with you on that, and regardless, that dishonor goes to Dynasty Warriors 6.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Bebpo on December 12, 2011, 05:56:00 PM
My DW7 showed up today at work.  Which faction should I start with if I'm a DW story-noob?
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: magus on December 12, 2011, 06:14:10 PM
My DW7 showed up today at work.  Which faction should I start with if I'm a DW story-noob?

chronologicaly the order would be wei then shu then wu,wei has also the most kickass plot as they are the only faction that do not go on rant about friendships and love

so go with wei
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Bebpo on December 12, 2011, 06:25:47 PM
Wei it is then.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on December 12, 2011, 06:27:41 PM
Wei -> Wu -> Shu -> Jin

Also, Jin is the best one but it should be done last. Wei and Wu are great, Shu sucks.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Bebpo on December 13, 2011, 12:11:26 AM
DW7 sux

Where is my boost cancel ability to dash out of combos?  It's so sloooooow here and boring.  Compared to DWG3 it's a joke.  In DWG3 I do my combos and I boost cancel out of them at any time to dodge and counter with a new combo.  Here I'm locked into a combo and I can't follow it up with anything.  Doing tiny little combos for no damage and getting injured along the way.  This game sucks.

Proof once again, Gundam makes everything better.  DWG3 >>>>>>>>>>>>> this.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on December 13, 2011, 12:30:01 AM
Wrong. It depends on who you're playing as and what weapon you're using. You can't cancel unless you have three star weapons. Then you can double jump and air cancel. Also, use weapon switch to string combos.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y2l6n1ypnAk

Baka.

DWG3 has bland maps and every stage is the same.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Bebpo on December 13, 2011, 12:31:52 AM
So basically it's a grind and the game unlocks at 15 hours of play???

laaaaaame.

DWG3 is fun from the minute you start it!
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on December 13, 2011, 12:34:34 AM
No, look at what weapons your characters use. Look for three stars. Some characters have three star weapons out the gate.

Once more.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_eSQxQkF1M

DW7 > DWG3
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Bebpo on December 13, 2011, 12:39:33 AM
Nope.  Don't buy it.  Gundam makes everything better! :P

Alright, will give DW7 another shot after I finish Zelda.  It's just that upon first glance, using the Wei campaign, the game is kind of sucky compared to the excellence that is DWG3.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on December 13, 2011, 12:46:21 AM
Oh please spare me.  ::) They're both fantastic games for completely different reasons.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Bebpo on December 13, 2011, 12:49:01 AM
Maaaybe.

But you have to admit that on first glance, DWG3 with it's combo -> boost -> combo -> boost -> combo -> boost -> musou give you a lot more to play with off the bat.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Bebpo on December 13, 2011, 12:49:55 AM
If the "X" button in DW7 let me boost/dash/slide out of a combo it'd make me A LOT more happy off the bat.  Without that it really feels a bit limited.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on December 13, 2011, 12:50:48 AM
It also has sterile maps and copy pasta mission design with extremely poor level variety.

Musou is about more than combos. If it was all about combos I'd just stick with fighters.

If I recall, Xiahou Dun starts with three star level sword and he's the first character you play as in Wei. That means you can cancel. Attack and quickly switch to jump. There's your cancel. Also, double jump if you've got three level weapon and the character is a 'mobile' character.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Bebpo on December 13, 2011, 12:53:38 AM
>3333

thank you himuro-chaaan
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on December 13, 2011, 09:13:03 AM
I don't have DW7 any more to check, but if you do the conquest-style mode, doesn't that let you start off with three star weapons right off the bat?  No story and characters have to be unlocked for use in that mode though.

TBH I didn't feel like playing through the DW7 story modes.  Didn't like being forced to use specific characters.  I still want DW7 XL, but with Musou Orochi 2 so close and the Vita DW on the horizon (will wait for the U.S. release), I'm sticking with passing on it.

MO2 is gonna annihilate everything else anyway.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: magus on December 13, 2011, 09:49:52 AM
it's not the weapons that have 3 stars,it's the character that have different amount of stars on different kind of weapons

and you can increase them by learning more skill on the skill tree
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on December 13, 2011, 07:50:59 PM
Went back DW7 360. Still on story mode.

Just about to beat Wu campaign then it's Shu time.  :yuck

Jin > Wu > Wei >>>>>>>>> Shu
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: magus on December 13, 2011, 07:58:31 PM
you just don't have enough BENEVOLENCE himuro
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Bebpo on December 13, 2011, 11:57:42 PM
Played some more DW7 and I have some questions and complaints.  First of all the framerate fucking sucks!  I thought DW6 was the one with the shit framerate and this was supposed to be a stable 60fps?  After the 60fps Gundam Musou 3 this always changing janky framerate makes the game annoying to play.  Plus the graphics suck on top of it!

Also the reason the lack of a dash button really bothers me is because you move fricken slow and the maps are big.  Unlike Gundam Musou and the Basara series where you are always fighting, here it feels like most of the time I'm just running between generals.

So uh, since everyone can use every weapon, does that mean despite there being like 4000 characters, they all play the same?  One of the main reasons I like musou games/basara games is because there are a ton of characters and everyone has a completely unique and different movelist so it's fun playing as them all.  Is the moveset just based on the weapons?

The starting weapons are 2 star in story mode with Wei.  Will the combat get more fluid and better at 3 stars?  I like my combat to feel good and fluid in musou/basara types.  It feels really janky and slow at the start here.

So far DWG3 >>>>>> Basara 2/3 >>>>>>FoTNS > DW/SW games to me.  If the Orochi 2 has sub 60 framerates and slow combat/movement, I can't see it being that great.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on December 14, 2011, 12:00:58 AM
Use a horse if you're on a big map. Use the horse to travel fast with B/Circle. Also, DWG3 isn't isn't that much faster. Like I said, it depends on the character and weapon.

Also, characters aren't the same, some are better with certain weapons, and each character has their own EX/Musou. This can change a lot.

Compare:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xlPH4hjdF0s

vs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BbpV079vma8

How is DWG3 faster? It isn't. The only way it's "faster" is covering long distances with dash. If you expected a game that takes place in Three Kingdoms-era China to have dash, I don't know what to say. But DW7 is hardly slow.

But that's what mounts are for:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QC7533MsYI8
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: MrAngryFace on December 14, 2011, 01:48:30 AM
Lockon is the best DWG3 DLC- soooo much fun to use.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Bebpo on December 14, 2011, 02:10:51 AM
Hmm, the hits are not satisfying at all in that girl video.  I dunno if it's the sound effects or graphics, but it barely feels like you're hitting the enemies unlike DWG.  The next video with the guy the combat seems more satisfying.  Maybe it just depends on the character.

And uh, because it's 3 Kingdoms, the characters can't dash?  That makes no sense, running fast is not strange capability when these guys and girls can do flaming jump kicks and shoot fireballs.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on December 14, 2011, 02:15:08 AM
It's not the sound effects or graphics. It's the fact that mobile suits explode when you kill them. What kind of dash do you want? Get speed upgrades.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: MrAngryFace on December 14, 2011, 02:17:27 AM
Do what I do, play em all
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Bebpo on December 14, 2011, 02:17:50 AM
I want the ability to cancel a combo like most good action games.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: MrAngryFace on December 14, 2011, 02:20:03 AM
If you cant appreciate Dynasty Warriors we don't want your kind!
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on December 14, 2011, 02:22:03 AM
You play Musou for the action? You're doing the same thing for 50-100 hours but you play it...for the...action? There are far better action titles than Musou. Why bother with Musou games AT ALL then? Musou games are great because of:

1. Tactical real time strategy elements mixed with hack and slash gameplay
2. RPG elements (skills, weapons, levels, abilities, stats) that are a proverbial carrot being dangled to incite continual interest.
3. Fun dialogue/fan service
4. Roasting dudes in style.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Bebpo on December 14, 2011, 02:23:25 AM
DWG games have good action
Basara games have good action

Nothing wrong with wanting a large scale battle game to have combat with some depth.  Doesn't have to be up there with DMC3, but it should have basic things like being able to link combo chains.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on December 14, 2011, 02:28:53 AM
I played a bit of DWG1 and it's slow as fuck, considerably more slow than Dynasty Warriors 7. How about you stop bitching, play the game, learn some skills, level up some weapons, and then do your combo chains? It's not like you CAN'T do combo chains WITHOUT cancelling either. DWG3 is easy as hell in chaining combos. Get the Unicorn Gundam, set it to Unicorn mode, and you've got 50-100 hit combo right there without any effort.

Sounds to me you're just mad DW7 requires some manner of skill and you have to work for getting awesome, whereas, you're awesome off the bat in DWG3. And so, DWG3 is an outlier in Muosu games for me, in that other games, ESPECIALLY Warriors Orochi 2, you have to work your ass off to get beast characters.

You are taking these games like they're pure action games, when you should be embracing them like they're rpgs, since they have similar character progression.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on December 14, 2011, 02:41:39 AM
I mean, in order to do this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9qdanTAXUIU

You have to pool points into your character. What's so wrong about that? ???

Finally, are you HOLDING weapon change? Weapon change is another cancel. So you can go do one combo with one weapon, then hold weapon change at the end of the combo, release it, and you'll do an animation that will keep you locked in your combo, follow up. Just like in that video I posted.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Bebpo on December 14, 2011, 02:50:45 AM
That looks fun!
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on December 14, 2011, 03:16:42 AM
btw if you like the story AT ALL check out the novel and/or the Chinese television serial:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tYJD5L5Vi9Y

Hundreds of characters, a timeline spanning over 100 years (the game takes place over the course of 110 or so years, but the characters don't age), it is the epic of all epics.

Another suggestion is Red Cliff.

(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/519-ri%2BnkGL._SL500_AA300_.jpg)

This is a four hour John Woo film detailing the Battle of Chibi and all the players involved. Fantastic film. It is the highest grossing Chinese film of all time. Well deserved.

Getting into the Three Kingdoms is a hobby unto itself.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: MrAngryFace on December 14, 2011, 10:32:23 AM
Haters of DWG can suck dicks imo
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on December 14, 2011, 02:32:54 PM
DWG3 is awesome.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: brob on December 14, 2011, 02:44:27 PM
what, they made a red cliff 2?? shiiieeeee~ I need to see that. I totally forgot how the first one just fucken ends
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Bebpo on December 14, 2011, 03:10:30 PM
Does Red Cliff make any sense if you don't know the lore?
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: brob on December 14, 2011, 03:11:14 PM
too long since I saw it, but prolly not.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on December 14, 2011, 03:12:12 PM
Does Red Cliff make any sense if you don't know the lore?

Yes, each and every character and their motivations are explained
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Bebpo on December 14, 2011, 03:17:00 PM
k, will watch.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on December 14, 2011, 03:18:11 PM
get the international version from amazon. the other version trims to film to like 2 hours
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on December 14, 2011, 11:23:11 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_mNbkvBN4Fc
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Bebpo on December 15, 2011, 12:16:30 AM
Looks good.  Speed is more like Gundam Musou 3.  Very fast and fluid combat. 
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on December 15, 2011, 01:18:18 AM
Not enough fodder imo
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Bebpo on December 15, 2011, 01:20:24 AM
It's the tutorial area.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on December 15, 2011, 02:27:57 PM
 :lol
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: MrAngryFace on December 15, 2011, 02:29:59 PM
not enough tutorial area
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on December 15, 2011, 02:30:32 PM
NOT ENOUGH

In any case, DW7 and DWG3's tutorial areas have lots of enemies.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: MrAngryFace on December 15, 2011, 02:34:26 PM
I suspect this will be more FotNS and less DW7/DWG
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Trent Dole on December 15, 2011, 09:06:20 PM
We need western dates for OP and Orochi 3 already. :hyper
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Van Cruncheon on December 16, 2011, 01:06:17 AM
omg, a post timeskip attack
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Owl-faced Wizard on December 16, 2011, 01:10:54 AM
Are all the Straw Hats gonna be playable?
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Bebpo on December 16, 2011, 01:17:17 AM
Yes.

Hope they're all fun to play as. 
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Owl-faced Wizard on December 16, 2011, 02:19:07 AM
yesssssss
Chopper is gonna be boss
This isn't coming out of Japan, is it?
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on December 16, 2011, 02:28:54 AM
It should.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Bebpo on December 17, 2011, 03:26:52 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5cYVgVmhOCE

~8min mark new trailer

has LOTS OF GRUNTS JUST FOR HIMURO

Also
-Buggy stage + boss fight
-QTE Don Kreig stage + Mihawk fight playing as Zoro
-Arlong stage + Arlong boss fight + playing as Sanji

Guessing each arc will get 1 stage and they'll keep releasing trailers with 3-4 stages at a time.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on December 17, 2011, 02:21:03 PM
oh my GODDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on December 17, 2011, 02:23:59 PM
THEY TAKE THE BEST PARTS OF THE SERIES IN THIS AND PUT IT IN THE GAME. LUFFY'S GUM GUM AXE KICK THAT OWNS ARLONG OMG :hyper AND THEN, AND THEN, YOU GET TO FIGHT AS ZORO AGAINST MIHAWK. :hyper :hyper

They're doing the whole story so far too!  :o GAME OF THE YEAR 2012
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Bebpo on December 17, 2011, 02:40:32 PM
haha, yeah it looks neat :)
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: MrAngryFace on December 18, 2011, 11:54:43 PM
Is the camera any different in DW7 XL? Just seems a smidge closer than it should be all of a sudden
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on December 19, 2011, 02:23:20 PM
Musou Orochi 2 is out Thursday!  :hyper
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: MrAngryFace on December 19, 2011, 03:41:26 PM
fuuuuk, so expensive to import shit these daysssss tho :(
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: MrAngryFace on December 22, 2011, 01:53:08 AM
caved- ordered orochi 2 ps3, steam sales suck this year anyway
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on December 22, 2011, 12:15:33 PM
caved- ordered orochi 2 ps3, steam sales suck this year anyway

What's your PSN ID?  The game has online co-op! 

I only popped the disc in for a minute last night and went to free mode.  Looked to be set up like DW7, putting you in an NPC-populated area where you can buy weapons and such.  Only three characters available by default.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Bebpo on December 22, 2011, 01:42:50 PM
caved- ordered orochi 2 ps3, steam sales suck this year anyway

What's your PSN ID?  The game has online co-op! 

I only popped the disc in for a minute last night and went to free mode.  Looked to be set up like DW7, putting you in an NPC-populated area where you can buy weapons and such.  Only three characters available by default.

Out of like 150?

That's a lot of unlocking.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on December 22, 2011, 02:05:33 PM
The other Orochi games are like that too.  You get multiple characters per stage.

Someone will likely also have a hacked save file with everyone available from the start soon enough.   :P
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: MrAngryFace on December 22, 2011, 02:41:42 PM
hey lyte- did you play dw7 xl? is it just me or is the camera kinda fucked up at times? Just seems like im doing a lot more camera realignment than DW7
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on December 22, 2011, 03:06:03 PM
Nah I didn't play XL.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: MrAngryFace on December 22, 2011, 03:06:59 PM
the missions are fun but it seems claustraphobic- I suspect if I hadnt played so many musou games and know how to anticipate where juggles go id be kinda pissed
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Van Cruncheon on December 22, 2011, 03:15:19 PM
i noticed that too with xl. weird. i spend WAY more time babysitting the camera than in other musou games -- it was REALLY apparent after playing sw3z previous.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: MrAngryFace on December 22, 2011, 03:19:20 PM
Yeah-  I checked settings for camera options and there are none- its also bad cause like the first missions i yellow turban which takes place in a map with high cliffs so its a real bitch
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on December 22, 2011, 08:05:39 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FvlM7wwVQPs&hd=1
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on December 22, 2011, 08:11:41 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-j7EN6mOibY

ayane and nehza :o
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on December 22, 2011, 08:23:38 PM
http://ja.twitch.tv/m3angra/b/303289874

Justin.tv WO3 gameplay! This guy plays 2 hours of it!

btw characters have their own unique weapons in WO3. It's back to WO2 where each character has unique weapons and unique move sets. Also weapon crafting and leveling is back! :)
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: MrAngryFace on December 22, 2011, 09:22:05 PM
my copy is stalled in stupid land- oh well plenty of other crap to play.

That said, I noticed DW7 XL has 3D support on ps3, did DW7 have that? Wonder if thats possibly the cause- even if its 'off'
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on December 22, 2011, 09:22:45 PM
iirc yes it had 3d
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: MrAngryFace on December 22, 2011, 09:27:43 PM
I dunno wtf is up then- cause the camera IS kinda fucked now in some weird subtle way
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on December 22, 2011, 09:31:06 PM
well here's guo xia gameplay so I can see wtf you're talking about in regards to the camera.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j6XHkuU03Y4

The camera really isn't pulled closer compared to DW7 so I don't understand the complaint?

Maybe you're too used to DWG3?
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: MrAngryFace on December 22, 2011, 09:33:58 PM
DWG3's camera is also close up- I dumped many hours into DW7 but it never required so much camera recentering- thats all I do now
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on December 22, 2011, 09:59:08 PM
Looks awesome.  I'm pooped and have to work tomorrow, but maybe I'll try to get in some time before bed.  Still haven't had a chance to play this yet.   :'(
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: MrAngryFace on December 22, 2011, 11:48:48 PM
DW games are the best comfort gaming
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Bebpo on December 23, 2011, 12:10:05 AM
DW games are the best comfort gaming

I use this statement a lot in my daily life.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Trent Dole on December 23, 2011, 02:09:59 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FvlM7wwVQPs&hd=1
FUCK YEAH FUCKIN' ASIANS FUCKIN' MURDERING FUCKIN' EVERYTHING :hyper :hyper :hyper
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on December 23, 2011, 07:46:53 PM
Okay, Musou Orochi 2 is good.  Really good. 

-The game suffers a bit visually; DW7, Hokuto Musou, and I think even the ported-up Sengoku Musou 3Z look better, but MO2 seems to have way more enemies on the map and on-screen compared to those games.  The first stage you play even has a giant multi-headed Orochi-serpent blowing fire down onto the map as an additonal hazard.  The frame rate fluctuates, but it's nowhere near as bad as DW7.

-Only played a few stages, but haven't seen any new enemies yet.  It's essentially the same line-up from the previous game. 

-Between stages, you move around a small "home base" area similar to Dynasty Warriors 7.  You can speak with other characters, buy weapons/upgrades, get info, change characters, etc.

-There's only one campaign mode now, but it seems to be HUGE.  After the intro stage, the game seems to have divided itself into two paths.  One takes you back to previous events in the main(?) characters' lives.  I was skipping through a lot of the story, but it appears that new character Kaguya appears and allows them to go back to the past to change the outcome of events that led to a lot of other characters' deaths at the hands of the Orochi forces.  You must have whoever's stage it is on your team in these levels but can choose whoever you want for the remaining teammates.  I started playing these levels, and just like the previous games, you get Dynasty or Samurai Warriors-themed stages, with Orochi elements "invading" the landscape.  Got three more characters for clearing one of these stages.  The other path looks like it's going to progress the main story further.

-There are power, speed, technique, and wonder character classes.  Not sure if there's anything more.  So far my favorite character is Samurai Warriors 3's Hanbei, who is awesome here just like he was in that game.

-Each character retains the techniques from his/her game, complete with musou super attacks themed in the same style as the game they came from, so you get different effects depending on whether or not the character is from DW, SW, or MO.

-The game play feels more like the other Orochi games/Samurai Warriors/Dynasty Warriors up until DW5 than Dynasty Warriors 7; the controls feel tighter and you feel like you have more control over your character, plus everyone can do jump+triangle attacks again.

Can't wait to play this more.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: MrAngryFace on December 24, 2011, 12:41:57 AM
Yue yings second musou has always been my favorite, it's so absurd and effective
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Trent Dole on December 24, 2011, 01:35:39 PM
How are the 'cheevs/trophies for Orochi 3? I'm all for another epic grind to do absolutely everything on every difficulty.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on December 24, 2011, 02:19:23 PM
dude at SA says they're less grindy.

He leveled his weapon from G to E in like one session.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on December 24, 2011, 05:00:13 PM
It definitely doesn't feel very grind-oriented so far. 

Got Ryu Hayabusa and Ayane playable!  Two levels pop up and stand out from the rest- One has some resemblance to the first stage in Ninja Gaiden 2 and the other looks like something you would see in DOAX.  The majority of these stages still look like Musou battlefields though.

Ryu appears:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-IEhomEc9w
Yoshistune wonders what the hell this stuff is on the beach and meets Ayane.  The reaction is what you'd expect.   :lol
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=luaGw9VJl8I
Both of them are awesome awesome AWESOME to play as.  Izuna droppin' fools all over the place.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: MrAngryFace on December 24, 2011, 05:20:08 PM
wish I preordered earlier fuuuuuh fence sitting
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on December 24, 2011, 06:52:16 PM
So I was wrong about having to use characters in certain stages.  You can still use your own team, but it looks like using the recommended team will unlock side-stages. 

The grinding comes from character relationships.  I'm not even sure what leveling this up does (maybe makes the team Musou attack charge up faster?), but there's like 130 characters in this game and all of them would need to have leveled-up relationships with other characters before everything could be considered "complete." 

Seems like something that be ignored if you don't care though.  For me it's all about getting through all the levels and unlocking all the characters, then choosing my favorites and leveling them up like crazy.

This game >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all other Musous in my book.  So much damn fun.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on December 24, 2011, 07:33:28 PM
How's the game difficulty
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on December 24, 2011, 08:45:15 PM
I'm playing on normal difficulty and may need to bump it up a notch.  One and two star missions are a joke; three star is getting a little challenging but I always tend to have at least one character one is already super-powerful and can own the stage on his/her own.  I think there's a long way to go though.  Been playing for hours and it still feels like things are just getting started!

Ran into some more guest characters.  A lot of characters you encounter first start off as enemies, under a spell, then turn good when you knock some sense into them.  Achilles is the first one I've encountered whose stayed as an enemy so far.

Some moves are also insanely overpowered, like Sun's R1 attack.  I juggled four of those giant warthog sub-generals at once and killed them all with it.   :lol

The side-stages appear to be modified versions of regular levels.  Beating them puts a kanji mark over a normal stage, and then replaying that stage with the suggested character combination unlocks something...not sure if that's how I've earned certain characters or if it's just increases the friendship system.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on December 26, 2011, 02:32:33 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g5O-SpgGMos
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: cool breeze on December 26, 2011, 02:41:13 AM
maybe I'm crazy, but I think that looks really nice visually.  there's a lot of character to the animations, effects, and all that.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on December 26, 2011, 02:49:59 AM
they took a lot from the anime and the manga
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: MrAngryFace on December 28, 2011, 10:55:12 AM
Yay, my copy of Orochi 2 shipped
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on December 28, 2011, 11:49:05 AM
I haven't been able to play Orochi 2 since the weekend and am having withdrawals. 
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: MrAngryFace on December 28, 2011, 06:17:31 PM
I HATE WAITING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: MrAngryFace on December 29, 2011, 11:05:23 AM
It's in Canada!!!! If I get it tomorrow I'll be so pumped
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: MrAngryFace on December 30, 2011, 10:54:40 AM
Yessssssss getting it todayyyyy
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on December 30, 2011, 11:34:28 AM
WELCOME TO THE AWESOME
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on December 30, 2011, 03:38:51 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/ehGZ9.png)
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on December 30, 2011, 03:40:34 PM
No way I'd play it dubbed.   :yuck
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on December 30, 2011, 03:47:49 PM
Funimation would provide the dub, and they do a very excellent One Piece dub. ???
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on December 30, 2011, 05:46:46 PM
 :yuck
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on December 30, 2011, 05:58:40 PM
wow, you're such a weeaboo
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Trent Dole on December 30, 2011, 06:23:38 PM
No way I'd play it dubbed.   :yuck
So you're hoping for a PS3 only release then since they can fit both languages on-disc that way.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Bebpo on December 30, 2011, 06:28:01 PM
Don't all the musou games released in the US on PS3 have dual-audio?  I only have FotNS & DW7 but both are dual-audio.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: magus on December 30, 2011, 06:29:25 PM
mark my words,original voice acting DLC for 1$ :smug
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on December 30, 2011, 06:35:26 PM
DW7 did not originally have dual audio, they released a free dlc that had Japanese language track though.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: MrAngryFace on December 30, 2011, 06:37:47 PM
All I gotta say is Orochi 3 is awesome so far.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Bebpo on December 30, 2011, 06:49:06 PM
DW7 did not originally have dual audio, they released a free dlc that had Japanese language track though.

But that was just because of time constraints so they had to add it later.  It was planned to be in from the start and they added it for free.

I think Koei is pro-dual language.  Which is good because it saves me money from having to import.


Still importing One Piece Musou.  Pre-ordered today for ONE HUNDRED AND TWENTY DOLLARS holy shit.  I am so angry at the exchange rate right now.  At $120 games, I'm going to be importing like 2 games a year.  But I love One Piece and I love anime musou so I gotta buy it.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Van Cruncheon on December 31, 2011, 11:58:51 AM
where you pre-orderin' it from?
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on December 31, 2011, 12:13:36 PM
Bebpo, you can pre-order the Asian version from Play-Asia for $79.90. 

wow, you're such a weeaboo

You throw that term around too much, which is weird coming from, you, HIMURO.   :lol

I prefer the original language in games/movies/TV shows from any country.  It's not some Japan thing.

No way I'd play it dubbed.   :yuck
So you're hoping for a PS3 only release then since they can fit both languages on-disc that way.

I'd only get it on PS3 anyway...if I get this game at all, that is.  My J360 is retired.

Don't all the musou games released in the US on PS3 have dual-audio?  I only have FotNS & DW7 but both are dual-audio.

A large number of games are only in English.  Some games will have both, then the sequels will be English-only.  And then sometimes one version of a game (Warriors Orochi 2) will be English only on consoles, then a later port (the PSP version) will have Japanese available.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Bebpo on December 31, 2011, 01:33:05 PM
Lyte, I go asian version for a lot of stuff, but games with heavy DLC I get the JPN version since I don't even know how to buy stuff off the HK store.  I'm sure OP Musou will get lots and lots of DLC like Gundam Musou 3.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on December 31, 2011, 03:43:51 PM
Is my nick Himuro? Right now? It isn't? :smug
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: MrAngryFace on December 31, 2011, 03:45:28 PM
Lyte: What do the little orbs next to my characters portrait signify?
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on December 31, 2011, 06:55:13 PM
Is my nick Himuro? Right now? It isn't? :smug

Oh, you're asking me to change it back for you? You got it champ!  :smug

Lyte: What do the little orbs next to my characters portrait signify?

Do you mean in-game?  The multi-colored orbs on the bottom left are related to equipped item slots, IIRC.

TONS of information, including character unlocking, is here: http://s13.zetaboards.com/koeiwarriors/topic/6869430/1/#post9065434
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: MrAngryFace on December 31, 2011, 07:25:35 PM
Thanks, I got through basic stuff by guessing and remembering menu layouts from previous games but there's a few new things here n there
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on January 01, 2012, 12:47:36 AM
Got Sangoku Musou Next for Vita.  It's clearly based on DW7+XL, but has some differences:

-You no longer have a lifebar.  Instead Koei went for a system like Gears Of War/Uncharted/various FPS titles, in which the screen starts turning red when you're low on health, and refills itself when you're not taking damage.

-Multiple musous per character.  There's the regular one, plus two touch-screen based types.

-There are times when you'll be ambushed by enemies jumping at you.  The screen shifts to a first-person view and you have to touch the enemies (in Matrix-slow-mo) to stop them from landing blows.

-Character edit is back (or was this already available in DW7 XL?) and as always, is pretty lacking in customization options.  Seems just like DW6 Empires character customization.

-Story mode and conquest modes are available, but story mode looks like it's just one main path focusing on a specific character with each chapter. 

-As always, pretty much everybody is locked from the start.  I wish they'd stop doing this.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: MrAngryFace on January 01, 2012, 01:03:33 AM
Sounds rushed and built around features. Somehow they made it work for samurai warriors on 3DS
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on January 01, 2012, 02:00:30 AM
Sounds rushed and built around features. Somehow they made it work for samurai warriors on 3DS

Not at all; it's pretty polished and runs at a nice, steady framerate.  Typical Koei musou pop-up/draw in is still there, but the character models are pretty close to DW7's.  Best-looking portable musou without question.  The maps also seem to be new.  There's different types of touchscreen attack/defense stuff that can happen, including one-on-one duels with generals.  Pre-stage map stuff seems to have a bit of a strategy element to it as well.

I cleared a few story stages and it unlocked more edit parts.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: MrAngryFace on January 01, 2012, 02:05:18 AM
I wish the touch stuff wasnt there :(

I still buy it tho; if it makes it stateside
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on January 01, 2012, 09:22:02 AM
Is Samurai Warriors 3Z coming to the US?

What about the new Orochi?
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Trent Dole on January 01, 2012, 10:54:37 AM
Is Samurai Warriors 3Z coming to the US?

What about the new Orochi?
No. :maf

Yes (because why the fuck would they bother with a Japan only 360 release? They wouldn't.), but no release date yet. :hyper
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: MrAngryFace on January 01, 2012, 12:06:23 PM
Imported 3Z totally worth it.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: MCD on January 01, 2012, 01:02:54 PM
Which one of these games have Ryu/Ayane? Is it out on the 360 (US)?
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on January 01, 2012, 01:52:19 PM
Imported 3Z totally worth it.

Where did you get it from?
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: MrAngryFace on January 01, 2012, 01:58:02 PM
Playasia, usually who I order from. Got the Asia version since it apparently has more english in the menus. Most people here use some other site I think tho
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: MrAngryFace on January 01, 2012, 02:34:02 PM
Omg full team musouuuuu
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on January 01, 2012, 02:37:16 PM
fuck 3Z, i want SW3: E :(
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: MrAngryFace on January 01, 2012, 03:11:02 PM
Dw7 empires would rock. DW6 empires is sad
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on January 01, 2012, 03:44:43 PM
Which one of these games have Ryu/Ayane? Is it out on the 360 (US)?

Musou Orochi 2 (Warriors Orochi 3).

No U.S. announcement has been made yet, but it's got to be coming out in English.

I think Ayane is the more powerful of the two in this game.  They really seemed to have focused on making some of the females overpowered as hell.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: MrAngryFace on January 01, 2012, 03:57:23 PM
They also seemed focus on making the female seem as airheaded as hell lol
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on January 01, 2012, 04:13:00 PM
Playasia, usually who I order from. Got the Asia version since it apparently has more english in the menus. Most people here use some other site I think tho

I ordered it from PA.  I don't mind the menus a whole hell of a lot since I played a shitload of DW5 Special, which was a J-360 launch title only.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: MrAngryFace on January 01, 2012, 04:14:09 PM
Yeah if youre a musou veteran you can feel your way through menus- its the just the more subtle tweaks that are hard to suss out without a guide (see lyteedges link). Generally musou games are all ill import since I know I can pretty much play them without learning japanese
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on January 01, 2012, 04:41:04 PM
Musou Orochi 2 seems really straight-forward compared to the other games.  You shouldn't have much of a problem playing the main game.  Don't know about the level-editor stuff though.

They also seemed focus on making the female seem as airheaded as hell lol

Well, Kaihime in particular screams "airheaded," but she's a made-up feudal Japan version of a modern-day gyaru anyway.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: MrAngryFace on January 03, 2012, 11:04:39 AM
Orochi 3 is amazing :bow - later stages with shifting mazes n shit- Ryu is also awesome
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on January 03, 2012, 12:39:16 PM
Will get back to it soon, but I ended up spending the whole weekend playing Sangoku Musou Next instead.  Another different from DW7- Most stages allow you to select from different characters to use instead of being forced to use a specific character.  A few stages do make you use a character in particular, though.

The most annoying part of this game?  The forced one-on-one touch screen battles.  Some of the enemies can be brutal and parry fucking EVERYTHING YOU DO.  The game lets you immediately restart these battles if you fail, and fortunately you do not have to replay the entire stage.  There's also these horse-riding mini-stages that I find annoying.  They're not difficult...just boring.  Controls are different and feel like a weird racing game.

I think I'm nearing the end of the story mode, BUT I haven't played anything with the new faction (from DW7) and have yet to see the DW7 XL characters pop up yet.  Once I've cleared story I'll go through conquest once or twice and I'm done with it.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: MrAngryFace on January 03, 2012, 12:48:34 PM
So I noticed using the set characters intead of your custom team in Orochi 3 lets you complete additional objectives? Some of the timed objectives in Orochi 3 remind me of Samurai Warriors 2's insane time requirements, its likes HOW THE FUUUUUUUUUk am I sposed to!?

Oh well, only one mission I lost because of that- its the one with the three forts across the map- 3 star fight.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on January 03, 2012, 01:10:47 PM
I think some of that stuff won't be possible until those characters are leveled way the fuck up and the game has been cleared.

There's regular and "true" endings, btw.  Not sure what the conditions are.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: MrAngryFace on January 03, 2012, 01:54:43 PM
im force feeding my crew pork buns every intermissions whether theyre hungry or not. get those affectionz up!
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Momo on January 04, 2012, 12:07:50 AM
So I finished Sengoku Basara 3 (PS3) with all the chars (twice for new path) and I get stuck at like 80/90% campaign completion for most of them. Anyone know of a helpful guide I can use to complete all of the campaigns 100% ?
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on January 07, 2012, 09:05:12 PM
https://twitter.com/#!/inspchin/statuses/155557678180077568

WARRIORS OROCHI 3 ANNOUNCED FOR STATESIDE. MAF WEEPS FOR IMPORTING A GAME FOR OVER 100 BUCKS THAT'S PROBABLY COMING OUT IN THE STATES IN 2 MONTHS.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Trent Dole on January 07, 2012, 09:09:16 PM
Thank God, can't stand waiting. If I had a system that plays J-games I'd have imported the fucker myself.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: MrAngryFace on January 08, 2012, 12:21:42 AM
https://twitter.com/#!/inspchin/statuses/155557678180077568

WARRIORS OROCHI 3 ANNOUNCED FOR STATESIDE. MAF WEEPS FOR IMPORTING A GAME FOR OVER 100 BUCKS THAT'S PROBABLY COMING OUT IN THE STATES IN 2 MONTHS.


MAF feels awesome for supporting DW series no matter what
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on January 08, 2012, 09:57:26 AM
https://twitter.com/#!/inspchin/statuses/155557678180077568

WARRIORS OROCHI 3 ANNOUNCED FOR STATESIDE. MAF WEEPS FOR IMPORTING A GAME FOR OVER 100 BUCKS THAT'S PROBABLY COMING OUT IN THE STATES IN 2 MONTHS.


MAF feels awesome for supporting DW series no matter what

Me n MAF will be done with the game well before then and have already moved onto the next Musou.  :smug
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: MrAngryFace on January 08, 2012, 11:15:35 AM
actually ill prolly just play it all over again lol- ive got a condition or something
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on January 08, 2012, 11:17:12 AM
it's called aspergers, buddy. don't worry, i probably have it too
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Trent Dole on January 08, 2012, 05:35:40 PM
Playing Musou repeatedly is called having taste/being awesome. :rock
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Joe Molotov on January 08, 2012, 09:10:17 PM
So how awesome is DW7: XXXTREME EDTION?
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: pancakesandsex on January 09, 2012, 03:58:32 PM
So DW7 and XL have some confusing DLC.  There is a stage pack for Vanilla and for XL that appear to be the same, one says it unlocks stages for conquest in vanilla, one says it unlocks them in legend mode for XL.  Do I need to buy both or can I just play with remix mode and buy only the vanilla dlc?

edit:  How the fuck am I still a junior here after 5 years lol.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: MrAngryFace on January 09, 2012, 04:04:48 PM
I dont have much dlc experience since I had DW7 on 360, and XL on ps3- thanks tecmo koei
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on January 10, 2012, 12:34:45 AM
Back on Musou Orochi 2 after a week (or longer) hiatus.  Crazy shit that I am still unlocking characters and still have a bunch of gaiden stages to unlock!
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: MrAngryFace on January 10, 2012, 12:48:28 AM
Yeah I need to get back to it but ive been playing FAR too much old republic- I am failure
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on January 11, 2012, 06:01:23 PM
Playasia, usually who I order from. Got the Asia version since it apparently has more english in the menus. Most people here use some other site I think tho

I ordered it from PA.  I don't mind the menus a whole hell of a lot since I played a shitload of DW5 Special, which was a J-360 launch title only.

Well, PA finally told me that it shipped today, 10 days after ordering.

5-6 years ago when I imported games somewhat regularly, I'd have it in my hands by now.  Their service has really gone downhill.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on January 11, 2012, 07:33:39 PM
Playasia, usually who I order from. Got the Asia version since it apparently has more english in the menus. Most people here use some other site I think tho

I ordered it from PA.  I don't mind the menus a whole hell of a lot since I played a shitload of DW5 Special, which was a J-360 launch title only.

Well, PA finally told me that it shipped today, 10 days after ordering.

5-6 years ago when I imported games somewhat regularly, I'd have it in my hands by now.  Their service has really gone downhill.

Sounds like they were sold out and you had to wait for the next shipment. 
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: MrAngryFace on January 11, 2012, 07:47:15 PM
That's exactly what happened- happened to me too; and I pre-ordered a few days before release.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on January 18, 2012, 08:15:11 PM
Bebpo, heads-up on Basara...a PS3 SB3/SB3 Utage combo pack is coming out in March.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Mr. Gundam on January 18, 2012, 08:49:41 PM
So that Nobunaga's Pokemon Ambition game was originally going to be Pokemon Musou. That would've been interesting.

Bebpo, heads-up on Basara...a PS3 SB3/SB3 Utage combo pack is coming out in March.

Oooh. Might have to snag that.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Trent Dole on January 23, 2012, 04:31:11 AM
WO3 March 20th in NA March 30th in UK :hyper :hyper :hyper
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on January 23, 2012, 09:11:28 AM
WO3 March 20th in NA March 30th in UK :hyper :hyper :hyper

mog :hyper
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on January 23, 2012, 09:14:46 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uA-7MLpIwF4

omg

this will be the ultimate one piece game. I have a HARD ON.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on January 23, 2012, 09:34:05 AM
One Piece is looking awesome!

EDIT: 8,190 yen MSRP?   :lol  Guess they know they can get away with it.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on January 23, 2012, 11:42:27 AM
http://www.gamecity.ne.jp/sangokushi/12/

Romance of the Three Kingdoms XII comes out March in Japan.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on January 23, 2012, 11:50:36 AM
Warriors Orochi 3 won't have a dub in the western release for budget reasons. JP only. This sucks balls bu at least we're getting the game.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: MrAngryFace on January 23, 2012, 11:56:02 AM
Yeah just be happy we're getting it at all. Even though I will miss Mr. AMAZING! YOU DO NOT REQUIRE STRATEGY?!
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Van Cruncheon on January 23, 2012, 12:33:57 PM
ONE'S HEAD IS NOT JUST FOR FILLING A HELMET
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Bebpo on January 23, 2012, 01:13:35 PM
Cool, will buy WO3 for a US price.

Basically with musou:
If anime I like -> import
Else -> buy domestic
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: MCD on January 23, 2012, 01:15:44 PM
DO NOT PURSUE LU-BU!
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: MrAngryFace on January 23, 2012, 01:42:25 PM
DW dubs are fucking hilarious- they will be missed
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: MrAngryFace on January 23, 2012, 01:46:27 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VNxOh2DDWQU
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on January 23, 2012, 10:07:20 PM
That's exactly what happened- happened to me too; and I pre-ordered a few days before release.

It has been about two weeks since they said the game has shipped and I ordered the 3-5 day shipping choice or whatever one it is that is in that general timeframe.  Still no game.

At this point, I'm wondering if I'm even getting the game at all.  I sent an e-mail to Play Asia so we'll see if they even bother to give me a response.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on January 23, 2012, 10:33:59 PM
OLDMAN? OLDMANnnnnnnnnnnnnn
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: MrAngryFace on January 24, 2012, 03:04:28 AM
Oldmaaaaaan
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on January 24, 2012, 12:01:39 PM
That's exactly what happened- happened to me too; and I pre-ordered a few days before release.

It has been about two weeks since they said the game has shipped and I ordered the 3-5 day shipping choice or whatever one it is that is in that general timeframe.  Still no game.

At this point, I'm wondering if I'm even getting the game at all.  I sent an e-mail to Play Asia so we'll see if they even bother to give me a response.

If you don't go with Fedex or UPS, it could take a while to get there.  They also may not respond due to the Chinese new year...looks like they are on hiatus until 1/26.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on January 25, 2012, 05:45:35 PM
Man I forgot how fucking fun Pang Tong is.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on January 27, 2012, 03:53:46 PM
That's exactly what happened- happened to me too; and I pre-ordered a few days before release.

It has been about two weeks since they said the game has shipped and I ordered the 3-5 day shipping choice or whatever one it is that is in that general timeframe.  Still no game.

At this point, I'm wondering if I'm even getting the game at all.  I sent an e-mail to Play Asia so we'll see if they even bother to give me a response.

If you don't go with Fedex or UPS, it could take a while to get there.  They also may not respond due to the Chinese new year...looks like they are on hiatus until 1/26.

Got it today.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on January 27, 2012, 03:56:15 PM
:rock

http://s13.zetaboards.com/koeiwarriors/topic/6869430/1/#post9065434 for info/translations if you need it.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on January 27, 2012, 04:00:46 PM
Thanks for the link.  I'm planning on catassing it this weekend.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on January 29, 2012, 01:43:05 PM
Sengoku Basara HD Collection announced!  :rock

(http://andriasang.com/comzsw/sengoku_basara_hd/23q3a.jpg)
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Bebpo on January 29, 2012, 02:45:56 PM
?
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Bebpo on January 29, 2012, 02:49:05 PM
Oh, you mean like DMC ports. 

Meh.  Why would you want to play SB1/2 when 3/Utage exists?  Plus the Capcom HD collections are just straight iso dumps.  Won't look any better.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on January 30, 2012, 04:36:02 PM
Sengoku Musou 3Z is so fucking awesome :rock :hump :rock
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: MrAngryFace on January 30, 2012, 06:23:20 PM
indeed
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: MrAngryFace on January 30, 2012, 06:28:10 PM
http://www.play-asia.com/PlayStation3_Slim_Console_One_Piece_Kaizoku_Musou_Gold_Edition_H/paOS-13-71-bo-49-en-70-4ige.html

lol- a bit overboard
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Joe Molotov on January 30, 2012, 07:24:08 PM
You know you're F5ing, waiting for pre-orders to open.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: MrAngryFace on January 30, 2012, 07:37:53 PM
hahaha no---now if they had released a SLAYERS PSP for Heroes of Phantasia...maybe.

Still stuck on the fusion boss in chapter 5- what a bitch of a fight when you dont understand japanese lol
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Mr. Gundam on February 08, 2012, 12:35:26 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/0Ugf8.jpg)
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Bebpo on February 08, 2012, 02:15:44 PM
Kind of a plain boxart.  But hey, it's Luffy punching and that is probably representative of 90% of the game.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on February 08, 2012, 03:26:00 PM
Koei Tecmo are going OVERBOARD.

Just recently announced Sangoku Musou Versus for 3ds. It's basically Musou Orochi with Dynasty Warriors 7 characters. So, basically an expansion on Samurai Warriors Chronicles? They are making TOO MUCH MUSOU.

In the past year I have bought DW7, DWG3, and I'm going to buy WO3 and One Piece Warriors. If I had a 3ds I'd have Samurai Warriors Chronicles. TOO MUCH MUSOU.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Mr. Gundam on February 08, 2012, 03:31:41 PM
TOO MUCH MUSOU is nothing new.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on February 08, 2012, 03:46:40 PM
I know it isn't but still
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Bebpo on February 08, 2012, 04:10:53 PM
I don't mind having too much musou.  You just get to pick and choose which ones you like. 
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on February 08, 2012, 06:25:48 PM
Koei Tecmo are going OVERBOARD.

Just recently announced Sangoku Musou Versus for 3ds. It's basically Musou Orochi with Dynasty Warriors 7 characters. So, basically an expansion on Samurai Warriors Chronicles? They are making TOO MUCH MUSOU.

In the past year I have bought DW7, DWG3, and I'm going to buy WO3 and One Piece Warriors. If I had a 3ds I'd have Samurai Warriors Chronicles. TOO MUCH MUSOU.

They didn't just announce it...they announced it was delayed a month to use Nintendo's new online service.  Versus' hook is that it's four players playing against one another.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Joe Molotov on February 08, 2012, 08:16:01 PM
So then, I guess I bought DW7:XL and stuff...

Teach me how to mash buttons, MAF/Gundam/Bebpo!
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on February 08, 2012, 08:18:01 PM
Bebpo doesn't like DW7 because he's a cigarillo.

Biggest tip is have your finger on the weapon change button. ALWAYS. So you can do awesome combos.

I play DW7 like this:

combo -> weapon change string which strings the combo -> combo -> weapon change string -> advanced combo

Usually I can get 30-60 hit combos this way.

See:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ob5dTiX4G1Y
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Bebpo on February 08, 2012, 09:01:30 PM
Bebpo doesn't like DW7 because he's a cigarillo.


 :lol
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Joe Molotov on February 08, 2012, 10:29:54 PM
Hmmm...I died 2 seconds into the first fight. I'm sure it's because I picked a bad character.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on February 08, 2012, 10:46:05 PM
Hmmm...I died 2 seconds into the first fight. I'm sure it's because I picked a bad character.

Maybe you should have started with the regular DW7...
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Bebpo on February 08, 2012, 10:55:06 PM
Do easy difficulty until you get comfortable, then move up.  The cool thing about DW is you can usually change difficulty per mission so as you level your character and get more powerful you can up the challenge to match it.  Or just massacre everyone on easy with a max level character!
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Joe Molotov on February 08, 2012, 11:40:53 PM
I was playing on Chaos because it said I had to do that to unlock some stuff. Probably won't try that again to start off with.

Hmmm...I died 2 seconds into the first fight. I'm sure it's because I picked a bad character.

Maybe you should have started with the regular DW7...

I thought XL was the same as DW7 with extra characters, like Ultimate MvC3 or whatever, then it tells me "Put your DW7 disc in here to play Story Mode".  OH WELL.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on February 10, 2012, 02:55:28 PM
Dynasty Warriors Next on Vita just got the "Wara Wara Patch."  It makes multi worldwide and now displays more enemies on screen!
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on February 16, 2012, 09:43:21 PM
Warriors Orochi 3 will be a download-only title for PS3:

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Tecmo Koei's upcoming myth-based hack-n-slash action title, Warriors Orochi 3, will be launching for PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360 next month, in North America on March 20 and in Europe on March 30. The game will be a full-price retail title on 360, but thanks to a little-known quirk in Sony's localization regulations, it will only be available on the PlayStation Network -- not on a Blu-ray Disc.

The voice acting in Warriors Orochi 3 hasn't been localized into English: the audio for the entire game is in Japanese, with English subtitles. Sean Corcoran, Marketing Manager for Tecmo Koei America, told me last week that Sony doesn't allow games without English voice acting to be released in the West on retail discs. So PS3 owners will have to buy the game on the PlayStation Store; Corcoran said that the download will cost less than $59.99, but Tecmo Koei hasn't yet decided how much less.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Bebpo on February 16, 2012, 10:05:11 PM
Just played the demo for DW Next and woaaaaah is it pretty rad.  Feels so much better playing than the 20fps 3DS launch musou.  Very smooth and was doing all kinds of awesome combos.  Looks great too. 

Shame about all the silly touch stuff for stage boss fights.  Otherwise it seems like a great portable musou.  Might pick up the full game.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Trent Dole on February 16, 2012, 11:17:23 PM
Warriors Orochi 3 will be a download-only title for PS3:

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Tecmo Koei's upcoming myth-based hack-n-slash action title, Warriors Orochi 3, will be launching for PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360 next month, in North America on March 20 and in Europe on March 30. The game will be a full-price retail title on 360, but thanks to a little-known quirk in Sony's localization regulations, it will only be available on the PlayStation Network -- not on a Blu-ray Disc.

The voice acting in Warriors Orochi 3 hasn't been localized into English: the audio for the entire game is in Japanese, with English subtitles. Sean Corcoran, Marketing Manager for Tecmo Koei America, told me last week that Sony doesn't allow games without English voice acting to be released in the West on retail discs. So PS3 owners will have to buy the game on the PlayStation Store; Corcoran said that the download will cost less than $59.99, but Tecmo Koei hasn't yet decided how much less.
Was going to say 'but 7XL had a retail release' except that was multilingual. What a bizarre, stupid regulatory rule. I guess now the PS3 kids have something to be annoyed by. Physical release on both formats in the EU per https://twitter.com/#!/inspchin/status/170254614145413120 So if PS3 folks really want a disc they can import.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Mr. Gundam on February 17, 2012, 01:42:22 AM
BULLSHIT. Yakuza games get released w/o English audio on PS3.
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Post by: Himu on February 17, 2012, 01:50:02 AM
import from europe. europe ps3 version is disc based
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Post by: Trent Dole on February 17, 2012, 03:16:40 AM
BULLSHIT. Yakuza games get released w/o English audio on PS3.
Sega moneyhat to look the other way maybe?
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Mr. Gundam on February 17, 2012, 12:07:39 PM
import from europe. europe ps3 version is disc based

I don't really care, wasn't going to buy it anyway. I just found their reasoning funny when there are other games that broke these rules.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on February 17, 2012, 12:13:36 PM
DYNASTY WARRIORS NEXT looks like the ultimate version of DW7, aside from the from touch crap.

Gonna wait for DW7: Empires.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Trent Dole on February 17, 2012, 01:54:29 PM
DYNASTY WARRIORS NEXT looks like the ultimate version of DW7, aside from the from touch crap.

Gonna wait for DW7: Empires.
Watch the Giant Bomb quick look, Next IS Empires.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on February 17, 2012, 01:55:31 PM
Are you shitting me? Nooooooooooo. I want the town feature from SW3E
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on February 17, 2012, 03:27:42 PM
DYNASTY WARRIORS NEXT looks like the ultimate version of DW7, aside from the from touch crap.

Gonna wait for DW7: Empires.

To be fair I haven't tried the game since the patch dropped (displays more enemies on screen), as it this point I'm done with the J-version and am waiting for the U.S. version next week, but while DW Next is fun, the touch screen crap brings it down and it does not have the large maps and HUGE number of enemies present that DW7 has, particularly when looking at the DLC stages.

But it is hands-down the best portable Musou yet.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Bebpo on February 17, 2012, 04:29:03 PM
Smaller maps is a plus for me.  I like my maps DWG3 size where you can get around them super quick and you're always in the action.  Don't want to be riding riding riding to the next combat point.  I mean what's the point of musou when you're not slashing dudes?

Enemy count seemed pretty good to me, but yeah it might've been less than DW7.

What I really want after playing the NEXT demo is DWG3 PORTABLE.  Get that on Vita and 60fps and holyyyy shit will I put 100 hours in.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on February 17, 2012, 05:23:35 PM
Smaller maps is a plus for me.  I like my maps DWG3 size where you can get around them super quick and you're always in the action.  Don't want to be riding riding riding to the next combat point.  I mean what's the point of musou when you're not slashing dudes?

Enemy count seemed pretty good to me, but yeah it might've been less than DW7.

What I really want after playing the NEXT demo is DWG3 PORTABLE.  Get that on Vita and 60fps and holyyyy shit will I put 100 hours in.

There are still parts where nothing is going on and you're riding to the next combat point.  And there are also these ZZZZZZZZZZzzzzz levels where you're on horseback and have to get one from end of the map to the other, avoiding obstacles, while a timer counts down.

I was so impressed with one of the DW7 bonus stages I played...it was not only a huge map, but it was absolutely filled to the brim with shitloads and shitloads of enemies.  There's nothing even remotely close to that in Next, but again, despite its shortcomings (touchscreen crap...especially boss fights) it's still awesome.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on February 17, 2012, 08:27:37 PM
I love DW7's huge maps. DWG3's maps suck and are boring. There's not much tension when you can get to a base in 5 seconds to protect it.

I prefer DWG1's maps. DwG3 has the benefit of having a very strategic system, but the map repitition makes the game sometimes become one dimensional. One of the reasons I prefer story mode in DW7 is that the campaigns are long and you make full use of the maps, from flooding gates to making surprise attacks to goin through mazes before your ally gets defeated. In conquest mode it's so simplistic and you can usually beat a map in like 3 minutes. There is no tension at all.

Musou without tension is boring. I love having to assist my allies before they die when I'm halfway actress the map and having to deal with surprise attacks.

Not that DWG3 style isn't great, but I prefer bigger maps. They tend to bring out the personality of the games more.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on February 21, 2012, 03:01:44 PM
The Ultimate One Piece video game.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPGaDdkT3bg
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Van Cruncheon on February 22, 2012, 11:33:58 PM
hey peeny slicklers, riddle me dis: how the fuck do boss battles in dw next work? i get that i swipe when the ui prompts me to SWIPE! but i'm not sure what else i'm supposed to do. this is like infinity blade if infinity blade was designed by JAPPIES OH WAIT
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Bebpo on February 23, 2012, 12:08:24 AM
going by the demo tutorial you then tap tap tap tap tap
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Van Cruncheon on February 23, 2012, 12:16:12 AM
how do i dodge/block? cuz guan yu is makin' me his bitchycakes
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: cool breeze on February 23, 2012, 12:49:54 AM
the demo had you tapping to block, like all those little bubbles on screen.  and at one point it said swipe, but I don't know if that was attack or defend.  and even though my character was attacking, the game tells me there's an opening once I stopped the enemy's attack? it's confusing
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Van Cruncheon on February 23, 2012, 02:09:27 AM
this game is the hot hot himusex out behind the taco bell <3
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on February 23, 2012, 03:01:30 PM
It's really good shit, wish the touch-boss-battles weren't there but I can deal with them.  At least you get to retry from that point if you lose.

I played through almost all of the story mode in the J-version; gonna try to run through to get back to where I was quick since I doubt the J-save will work. 

Just to note, you receive more custom parts and fighting styles as you go through story mode.  Love the bomb-throwing style. 
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Trent Dole on February 24, 2012, 03:09:19 AM
http://www.xbox360achievements.org/game/warriors-orochi-3/achievements/
Oh god five weeks can't wait hnnnnnggg
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on February 26, 2012, 02:31:48 PM
Kaizoku Musou is this week!  Who else is paying the LOLOL price of $100 to get it?  :hyper
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Bebpo on February 26, 2012, 02:34:28 PM
meeeeeee
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on February 26, 2012, 03:05:11 PM
*high-five*

Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on February 26, 2012, 03:05:23 PM
WHERE IS MY KAIZOKU MUSOU DEMO
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on February 29, 2012, 11:23:32 AM
Looks like I'll have the game tomorrow.

I've only read the first volume or two of One Piece and have watched a chunk of the series (around 2006-2007 when it was airing), plus seen some of the movies.  I have a feeling I might be a little lost with some of the characters.  I know the main cast but everyone else is just  ??? to me.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Mr. Gundam on February 29, 2012, 12:45:54 PM
Kaizoku Musou is this week!  Who else is paying the LOLOL price of $100 to get it?  :hyper

I'm even crazier.

Dropping $85 + shipping on a half-assed Gundam game (Unicorn) that has already announced DLC that should've been included with the game. And I'm buying that, too. :lol
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on March 02, 2012, 05:23:57 PM
Got Kaizoku Musou...time for some GOMU GOMU ACTION!
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on March 03, 2012, 11:42:18 AM
Played this for a bit yesterday.

The main story mode definitely is more along the lines of Hokuto Musou, in that you're not on huge maps, but more linear Sengoku Basara style stages, beating up waves of enemies. There's also platforming sections where Luffy uses his stretch abilities to jump/fly around levels with large amounts of water.

The game looks great, but has frame rate issues. It's kind of disappointing when the in-game cut scenes look beautiful, then the action starts and the frame rate feels like it's going at half the speed.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Bebpo on March 05, 2012, 11:23:59 PM
Got mine today.  Game seems really good.

The combat seems like the most advanced ever in a musou game.  The characters have large movelists and not just [][][][][] with a triangle attack at the end.  You get stuff like []/\[] or /\/\[]/\, so lots of canned combos + your musou attacks + an assignable super attack to R1 that you can change mid-gameplay with the d-pad left/right + partner attacks on L2.  It's not Devil May Cry but for a musou game it seems to have good combat depth.

The stages are nice and long and feel like a full anime episode each.  Great cutscenes, fun mini-game/platforming segments, God of War/Asura's Wrath style QTE's mid-battle or mid-stage; sometimes it switches which character you're controlling to re-enact how it played out in the manga.  Overall seems to be throwing some good variety at you.

Then there's also a bog standard musou mode based on every environment where you can take any character in and beat dudes up while leveling.  All the bosses have a unique dialogue depending on the character you're controlling.  The more in-depth move lists + stuff like that makes the smaller cast list a lot more ok.


I agree with Lyte though that the only really negative is the framerate.  It's not bad, and always above 30fps.  But it's annoying that it's 60fps and looks really really good and then drops all the time in an unstable framerate.

Still, lots of fun, lots of fanservice and in the end it's MUSOU.

Will play more over the weekend!
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on March 06, 2012, 12:55:19 AM
i want it so hard
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Bebpo on March 06, 2012, 01:08:06 AM
Luffy plays so well, but that kind of makes sense since this is one of the first musou games where you have a "main" character that you're going to be using most of the time (guess Hokuto was like that too, but didn't play Hokuto much; was slow).  Zoro is a solid sword fighter and Nami has a lot of traps but her physical game is pretty no-range bad at the start.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: MrAngryFace on March 06, 2012, 01:49:16 AM
Between Samurai Warrior Chronicles and DW Next I kinda want this crap on portables from now on- so many neat new things going on in these
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Post by: bork on March 06, 2012, 03:11:55 PM
Hokuto Musou has individual story modes for five characters (Ken, Rei, Mamiya, Toki, and Raoh), although Ken's is way, way bigger than the others'.

I think Kaizoku Musou may be the first Musou game to have a single story mode where you play as this small an amount of characters, but it's okay, because as Bebpo said they all seem to have a nice amount of moves.

Bebpo, Hokuto Musou isn't slow...it's Kenshiro.  He plays that way for whatever reason...other characters do not.  As you level him up, Ken does get better.  I ended up liking Mamiya the best in that game...found her crossbow to be the most effective.  You can just keep blasting enemies from long range before they even get to you!   :lol
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Bebpo on March 06, 2012, 05:43:06 PM
Yeah, I'll get to it eventually.  Seems fun.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: cool breeze on March 14, 2012, 02:09:45 PM
Dynasty Warriors Vs (3DS) is finally a Zelda game the bore can enjoy!

(http://i.imgur.com/k1MPm.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/1ZSbd.jpg)
http://i.imgur.com/0q6CR.jpg
(http://i.imgur.com/60MYt.jpg)
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Mr. Gundam on March 14, 2012, 02:13:40 PM
Palette swaps? I was hoping they'd be new characters.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on March 14, 2012, 02:13:43 PM
Good god look at those tiny screens. What is it, 2005?
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Mr. Gundam on March 14, 2012, 02:14:27 PM
Good god look at those tiny screens. What is it, 2005?

I take it you don't read Japanese gaming websites, they still give small screenshots.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Bebpo on March 14, 2012, 04:51:32 PM
Gackt Link?
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Trent Dole on March 14, 2012, 11:27:01 PM
WO3's release has been delayed a week per its official sites in NA and EU. I smoulder with generic rage.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Bebpo on March 22, 2012, 02:26:17 PM
Picked up Warriors Orochi 3.  Left the PS3 doing the 11gig download.

First WO game, hope it's the Marvel v Capcom of DW!


Musou backlog is now:
-One Piece Musou
-Fist of the North Star Musou
-Dynasty Warriors 7
-Warriors Orochi 3

I'm probably set with musou for a long time  :lol
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on March 22, 2012, 02:39:40 PM
WO3 > *
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: pancakesandsex on March 22, 2012, 03:46:01 PM
Picked up Warriors Orochi 3.  Left the PS3 doing the 11gig download.

First WO game, hope it's the Marvel v Capcom of DW!


Musou backlog is now:
-One Piece Musou
-Fist of the North Star Musou
-Dynasty Warriors 7
-Warriors Orochi 3

I'm probably set with musou for a long time  :lol

WO games are even better than that implies
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on March 22, 2012, 05:05:16 PM
wish i had the cash for wo3
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Bebpo on March 22, 2012, 10:46:35 PM
Just played WO3 for a bit.  Pretty fun!  Probably the most fun off the bat Musou I've played besides DWG3. 

Sima Zhao is COOL BRO
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on March 22, 2012, 10:50:59 PM
Wait until you get Ryu and Ayane.  They are so damn good. 

Warriors Orochi 3 = The real Ninja Gaiden 3!
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on March 23, 2012, 12:52:23 AM
Does Sima Zhao still have his rockin' ex? he and his lady wang yuanji are my favorites in dw7

jin fo lyfe
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Eel O'Brian on March 23, 2012, 12:57:09 AM
i played the dynasty warriors next demo on vita tonight, it wasn't bad!  i was impressed with the sheer number of people they crammed on the screen.  i had no idea what i was doing, since i'd never played a dw game before, but i still had a good time with it. i might pick it up if i can snag it on sale later on.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Bebpo on March 23, 2012, 02:49:02 AM
Does Sima Zhao still have his rockin' ex? he and his lady wang yuanji are my favorites in dw7

jin fo lyfe

I dunno, but I was riding people like surfboards Dante style and kicking giant Gundam balls and it was badass.

Plus he has the same voice actor as Noel from XIII-2.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on March 23, 2012, 05:42:36 AM
That's his ex
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on March 23, 2012, 08:36:58 AM
i played the dynasty warriors next demo on vita tonight, it wasn't bad!  i was impressed with the sheer number of people they crammed on the screen.  i had no idea what i was doing, since i'd never played a dw game before, but i still had a good time with it. i might pick it up if i can snag it on sale later on.

It's good stuff...they also released an update that displays more enemies on-screen for the J-version.  I don't know if this was already-available for the U.S. release/demo.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Bebpo on March 23, 2012, 01:38:20 PM
That's his ex

I don't understand in this context.

I thought you meant "ex" as in "his ex-wife" who is a different character.

But now it sounds like "ex" as in "EX version of a character with a different moveset"


I don't play these DW games featuring of China, so I'll need some help here.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on March 23, 2012, 01:39:26 PM
That's his ex move.

Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Bebpo on March 23, 2012, 01:41:00 PM
What is an EX move in DW?


I only play Gundam Musou.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on March 23, 2012, 01:45:19 PM
In DW7, an  Ex Attack is a move you can only use if you have your ex weapon equipped. Sima Zhao's weapon is the regular sword, so with that weapon you can use his EX which is a unique command.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UmepYgYaZXM
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Bebpo on March 23, 2012, 01:47:54 PM
Ah, so I'm guessing the DW7 characters in WO3 all have their EX weapon equipped, which makes sense.

Game seems HOT.  So many characters, so many moves, fast combo-flowing combat; great stuff.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on March 23, 2012, 01:48:17 PM
JIN KINGDOM

:bow

BOW THE FUCK DOWN

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yoZ3TLN64_4
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on March 23, 2012, 01:50:28 PM
Wait, do characters still only have one musou like in WO2 or do characters have multiple musous like in DW7/DWG3?
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Bebpo on March 23, 2012, 01:52:01 PM
Can't answer that since I haven't leveled anyone yet.  They start with 1 musou.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on March 23, 2012, 09:15:27 PM
2 hours later and WO3 is still only at 65% completion.  Yet I was able to download Saints Row 3 from Steam in less than an hour.

Fuckin' Sony, I tell ya.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Trent Dole on March 23, 2012, 10:54:47 PM
but it's totally better cause it's free! :dur
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on March 23, 2012, 11:16:56 PM
4 hours...77% complete!!!  :dur

Fuck Sony.  I wanted to spend a couple of hours playing this game tonight.

Next time someone asks why a digital distribution only console is a bad idea, here's some proof, fuckers.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on March 23, 2012, 11:25:09 PM
Either that or sony's network suck balls.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Trent Dole on March 24, 2012, 12:32:53 AM
Honestly it's a bit of both in this case. :-[
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on March 24, 2012, 12:48:01 AM
He dled sr3 in an hour so no it isn't
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Bebpo on March 24, 2012, 12:55:23 AM
I get ok speeds from Sony.  Not great, but I started WO3 download and went to work, came back 8 or 9 hours later and it was done and installed.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: magus on March 24, 2012, 07:22:24 AM
i tought dynasty warriors 7 was just an okay game but maybe i'm going to get WO3 just to join you guys
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on March 24, 2012, 01:53:56 PM
I played WO3 for a couple of hours this morning and wow!

This is probably the most epic in scope Musou game I've played yet.  I've only went through the first two levels but it is a very impressive game.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: MrAngryFace on March 24, 2012, 01:55:21 PM
The shifting maze level a little later on is awesome- whole level layout changes as you fight through it.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: MoxManiac on March 24, 2012, 02:02:20 PM
Still waiting for my 360 copy to ship since i wanted a physical disc  :'(
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Bebpo on March 25, 2012, 02:13:36 AM
Didn't realize it was game over if a single character dies on your team :(

Dude who attacks with a paintbrush is rad though. 
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on March 27, 2012, 05:00:24 PM
Dammit, gamestop said Warriors Orochi 3 has been delayed AGAIN?
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Bebpo on March 27, 2012, 05:12:56 PM
You could get it on ps3

spoiler (click to show/hide)
but then you'd have to turn your ps3 on
[close]
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on March 27, 2012, 05:20:51 PM
Fuck, I can't wait to play Orochi 3. Fucking people stealing my copy of Orochi 2. Leveling up characters in Orochi is by far the funnest in any Musou I've played.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on March 27, 2012, 05:34:26 PM
If anyone wants the English version on disc for PS3, NCSX is going to stock the Euro version for $69.

Fuck, I can't wait to play Orochi 3. Fucking people stealing my copy of Orochi 2. Leveling up characters in Orochi is by far the funnest in any Musou I've played.

Get it on PS3 dude...it's better on there anyway, plus no worries of lack of DLC support.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on March 27, 2012, 05:38:30 PM
How is it better on ps3 and what is this about lack of worry for dlc support? You talking about the DW7XL situation? Because 360 has all the dlc, but no XL.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Van Cruncheon on March 27, 2012, 07:55:41 PM
orochi 3 is fuck amazing and better than the entire 3ds catalog combined
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Trent Dole on March 27, 2012, 08:04:34 PM
orochi 3 is fuck amazing and better than the entire 3ds catalog combined
Himu and I are both tragically stuck waiting until at least tomorrow when it'll hopefully show up in stores. :(
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on March 27, 2012, 08:17:42 PM
This game continues to be fucking awesome.

It might end up being my favorite Musou of all time, supplanting Dynasty Warriors 5.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on March 28, 2012, 10:28:21 AM
Godammit lyte edge how is it better on ps3 you bastard! I'm torn between just getting it on ps3 and waiting it out to see if I can pick it up today
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: MoxManiac on March 28, 2012, 10:41:21 AM
If anyone wants the English version on disc for PS3, NCSX is going to stock the Euro version for $69.

Fuck, I can't wait to play Orochi 3. Fucking people stealing my copy of Orochi 2. Leveling up characters in Orochi is by far the funnest in any Musou I've played.

Get it on PS3 dude...it's better on there anyway, plus no worries of lack of DLC support.

Isn't the game the same on both? And the DLC doesn't make sense, the DLC is/will be for both platforms.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on March 28, 2012, 11:11:31 AM
Seriously, you don't make posts like that without evidence backing your claim. People are DYING HERE. And he teases us with information that makes no sense when we just want to play Orochi 3.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on March 28, 2012, 03:40:09 PM
Aw Goddammit, my bad guys...this was a DW7 comparison that somebody mentioned elsewhere...in a WO3 thread...not for WO3 itself.    :(  Blame GAF.  :p


Isn't the game the same on both? And the DLC doesn't make sense, the DLC is/will be for both platforms.

See: DW7 XL.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on March 28, 2012, 03:43:44 PM
XL was not dlc but an expansion. I doubt Orochi 3 will have a big major expansion though I could be wrong.

In any case, I picked up the game during lunch.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on March 28, 2012, 04:16:41 PM
Himu, going by previous 360 Koei releases, XL should have been DLC.

After what happened with DW7 XL I am sticking with Koei games on PS3.  They didn't even release One Piece on 360.

Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on March 28, 2012, 05:09:19 PM
Any suggestions on how to handle weapons in this iteration? I got a lot of loot from the first battle, including a sword for Zhao with some skills attached. Afterwards, I went to camp and saw the weapon dealer.

I noticed a lot of the weapons had skills attached. How does the skill system work in this game? Do you learn them like in DW7/DGW3 or is it just like in WO2? Should I keep using the same weapon for a bit and grind it out or should I try to experiment with as many weapons with skills allotted as possible?
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on March 28, 2012, 05:45:24 PM
It's like WO2.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on March 28, 2012, 06:47:55 PM
Thanks.

Holy fuck balls this game is amazing. It's like the best of WO2 married with what they learned in DW7. Amazing.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on March 28, 2012, 06:54:57 PM
Just pulled a Bebpo and bought the 360 version.  LEZ DO SOME CO-OP
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on March 28, 2012, 07:32:41 PM
I only have Silver for the time being.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: MoxManiac on March 28, 2012, 08:02:24 PM
Aw Goddammit, my bad guys...this was a DW7 comparison that somebody mentioned elsewhere...in a WO3 thread...not for WO3 itself.    :(  Blame GAF.  :p


Isn't the game the same on both? And the DLC doesn't make sense, the DLC is/will be for both platforms.

See: DW7 XL.

1. There is not going to be a WO3 XL.

2. The reason there is no DW7 XL on 360 is because there was no DW7 on 360 in Japan. There is a WO3 on 360 in Japan. Therefore, logic suggests that support for the game will be at parity on both systems, and if there is a WO3 XL, both platforms will get it.

Since I have defeated your arguement lyte, as penance you must play WO3 with me when I receive the 360 version next week :P
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on March 28, 2012, 09:09:16 PM
Aw Goddammit, my bad guys...this was a DW7 comparison that somebody mentioned elsewhere...in a WO3 thread...not for WO3 itself.    :(  Blame GAF.  :p


Isn't the game the same on both? And the DLC doesn't make sense, the DLC is/will be for both platforms.

See: DW7 XL.

1. There is not going to be a WO3 XL.

2. The reason there is no DW7 XL on 360 is because there was no DW7 on 360 in Japan. There is a WO3 on 360 in Japan. Therefore, logic suggests that support for the game will be at parity on both systems, and if there is a WO3 XL, both platforms will get it.

Since I have defeated your arguement lyte, as penance you must play WO3 with me when I receive the 360 version next week :P

Nah dude, doesn't work...it wouldn't have been difficult for them to make XL for 360.  Not to mention that SW2 XL was DDL only in the States but a disc release in Japan.  They've done it before.

Anyway, the 360 version looks pretty much the same as PS3, but the CG quality is worse.  That's about all that I can tell.

Also no DLC is available.  Japan has outfit packs (some are free!), stages, music, etc.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Bebpo on March 28, 2012, 09:12:26 PM
I only have Silver for the time being.

This just keeps getting stranger. 
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on March 28, 2012, 09:20:55 PM
Who knows with Himu.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on March 28, 2012, 10:00:40 PM
I don't see why I need online to enjoy this game. Don't be distinguished mentally-challenged. I have played DW7 online maybe 5 times total and DWG3 online sucked balls.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on March 28, 2012, 10:25:47 PM
I'm starting to encounter the Troy Musou stages and enemies to fight.

This game just keeps getting better...
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Trent Dole on March 28, 2012, 10:29:48 PM
I don't see why I need online to enjoy this game. Don't be distinguished mentally-challenged. I have played DW7 online maybe 5 times total and DWG3 online sucked balls.
DW7 online was crap too. You both had soldiers in different locations so you could watch your co-op partner slashing around at what was seemingly nothing when on their screen they're killing dudes. ::) Also your new thread title is missing the s at the end of WARRIORS.  :P
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on March 29, 2012, 12:18:50 AM
Holy shit, this could very well be the definitive Musou. It has DW's tactical edge, the fast pace of DWG3, lots of funny writing, a (surprisingly) interesting story - especially if you know the characters backgrounds, and the character leveling system from past Orochi games makes it as fun as ever. There's tons of stuff to unlock, and every time I play a map, I'm finding a new move or something added to my move list or a new and cool way to pull a 1000 hit combo.

Speaking of maps, it's so refreshing to have multiple armies fighting each other. My favorite map so far was a struggle between three (not two!) factions forcing my own army to split up. I'd go back and forth on the front to handle any incoming threats. I tried the map on hard and it was balls to the wall tension that felt like a real time strategy game with back and slash added in. Holy fuck.

I'm really enjoying the new special attributes they gave each unit type as well. Stringing combos as a Wonder character never ceases to be fun.

It doesn't have the difficulty curve WO2 had but aside from that this game is Beat em Up crack. If people gave this game a shot it could easily be recognized as being one of the best beat em ups the genre has to offer.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Bebpo on March 29, 2012, 03:53:48 AM
The pace is still slower than DWG3.  At least until you get mounts, which I don't have yet.  Running from one group to the next still takes some time and I keep wishing I had a dash button like DWG3 has boost button. 

Otherwise it's good stuff.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on March 29, 2012, 03:54:31 AM
It's not that slow. Is 20-30 seconds really too long for you?
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Bebpo on March 29, 2012, 04:02:50 AM
Nah, but it's pointless.  Why spend a half dozen 20-30 seconds each map of doing absolutely nothing but holding forward?  Like, I just don't understand the design philosophy behind it on these musou games.  DWG3 shows that they understood people buy these games to BEAT STUFF UP and so they made a boost + small levels so that you're flying from one area to the next in <5 seconds and always kicking ass.  I don't understand why they don't implement the same thing (with bigger levels) in DW/SW/WO.  Even the horses in DW aren't that fast.

Then again Basara has that same problem too.  A lot of time spent running between fights.  Not a fan of downtime in musou games. 
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on March 29, 2012, 04:18:05 AM
I don't like DWG3 small levels. I think DWG3's levels are forgettable and atrocious.

I like large maps, large scale battles. DWG3 battles feel like skirmishes, not war battles. There is nothing in DWG3 that is remotely like the Hydra stage in WO3. Nothing. And that's just the FIRST STAGE.

I'll just chalk it up to you have a lack of patience. You like things fast, fast, fast and don't like things that have downtime. Understandable.

DWG3 also lacks any sense of tension. I ended up have a game over in WO3 tonight because I had to travel from half way across the map to assist an ally. He [Taishi Ci] ended up dying, which is against the victory conditions and I had to start over and this was on normal mode.

If it were DWG3, it wouldn't even matter because for the most part, if you boost it up, you'll always reach there in time to kick ass and defend your zone.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Bebpo on March 29, 2012, 04:23:52 AM
I like games having downtime in games where downtime makes sense for pacing reasons.  What I don't get is why there should be downtime, every 20 seconds in a BEAT UP 1 MILLION SOLDIERS games.  I guess it wouldn't be as bad if it took longer to kill the enemy groups, but literally it goes like this:

Run to group for 5-20 seconds
Do 1 combo or 2 that kills entire group and general;  Takes maybe 15-20 seconds

Run to next group for 5-20 seconds
repeat.

I feel in most musou games that do that, it makes the pacing all kinds of goofy and inconsistent.  I want to be FIGHTING DUDES for minutes straight.  I feel like I hardly ever get that in musou games.  At least in DWG3 you kill a group in 20 seconds, but you're at the next group in 3 seconds so it's almost like you're always fighting.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Bebpo on March 29, 2012, 04:26:30 AM
DWG3 traded the "tension" that was in DWG1-2 for a game that is the equivalent of Shinobi PS2, it's a pure speed running combat musou.  The fun is trying to finish the stages as fast as possible.  That's the challenge and it's a fun one.

Don't know why you're trying to be a hater, I was under the impression DWG3 was almost universally loved by musou fans.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on March 29, 2012, 04:31:52 AM
If these games were just pure beat em ups, I probably wouldn't like them. I like the kill 1000's dudes element, but I like the light strategy elements and war elements just as much.

To me, this sounds like a case of expectations. It sounds like you want it to be a genre it really isn't. In other words, it sounds like you want Ninja Gaiden.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on March 29, 2012, 04:32:34 AM
DWG3 traded the "tension" that was in DWG1-2 for a game that is the equivalent of Shinobi PS2, it's a pure speed running combat musou.  The fun is trying to finish the stages as fast as possible.  That's the challenge and it's a fun one.

Don't know why you're trying to be a hater, I was under the impression DWG3 was almost universally loved by musou fans.

I love DWG3. I'm not being a hater. I just don't understand the complaint that Musou games are "slow", or at least, modern Musou games.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Bebpo on March 29, 2012, 04:40:52 AM
They aren't slow!  I just think they have odd pacing issues.

I really like WO3 :P  Great game, and it feels much faster than DW7.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: magus on March 29, 2012, 04:45:21 AM
i can understand where bebpo is coming from,walking from one group of enemy to the other most of the time is a pointless chore,that's why missions where they stick you inside an arena are nice
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on March 29, 2012, 06:03:51 PM
Right now my team is Hanbei, Zhou Tai, and Tachibana and I am wrecking shit. Zhou Tai in particular is a fucking beast compared to DW7.

Surprisingly, I'm not big on Wang Yuanji in WO3 even though she is my main in DW7. In DW7, she's really fun mostly because of weapon change. I find Wang Yuanji with her throwing knives with a bow as her secondary weapon makes some of the most beastly and creative combos in the game. Not so much in WO3, you really don't really need to work to get creative with Yuanji in this one and she's boring to play as.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Trent Dole on March 29, 2012, 08:07:29 PM
Picked this up and played a few missions. There's definitely a bit of running around back and forth on the maps but taking a speed character with you/riding a horse negates some of the tedium there. Having played SW3 on Wii it's nice to get the Sengoku peeps in proper HD again, and thus far I think the declaration that this is the new top musou game over DW7 could be a valid one. I'd play more if I didn't feel like passing out from the flu. :-X
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on March 29, 2012, 08:24:50 PM
Warriors Orochi has always been the best Koei musou game.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Van Cruncheon on March 29, 2012, 08:31:48 PM
zhou tai is the MAN. he is an unstoppable iaigiri monster. boost his reach and the attribute for strong attacks and JESUS CHRIST 3000+ KILLS/MAP.

i also use nemea for poking the generals to death (and for chucking his motherfucking NIBELUNG VALESTI musou into crowds of nasty archers), and nene to speed run across maps/tie up huge combos.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on March 29, 2012, 10:10:28 PM
One downside I don't like is that if you lose the stage, your characters lose all progress made throughout that level.

I was playing a level on Chaos and got defeated during an enemy's musou attack.  About 40 minutes of progress gone :(
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on March 29, 2012, 11:34:25 PM
Sun Xiang Shang's R1/RT attack = instant death

I forgot how overpowered she was since I haven't played the J version in a few months.  I put her on my team without leveling her up first and STILL beat the shit out of everyone on the stage I played with that attack.  :lol
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on March 30, 2012, 12:27:26 AM
Himiko just butt raped me 4 times fml
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Van Cruncheon on March 30, 2012, 12:37:53 AM
himiko on hard is a cunnifred. her pot lasers are a one-shot kill, and her musou comes out FAST
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Van Cruncheon on March 30, 2012, 12:38:26 AM
just replaced nene with nuwa. nuwa is ABSURD.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on March 30, 2012, 01:31:42 AM
himiko on hard is a cunnifred. her pot lasers are a one-shot kill, and her musou comes out FAST

yep, even on normal. I'm thinking of bumping it to hard. what level are you?

and zhou tai continues to rape faces
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Van Cruncheon on March 30, 2012, 02:55:17 AM
chars are level 44. hard is perfect -- poop troops are a credible threat, but not annoyingly so.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Trent Dole on March 30, 2012, 12:22:00 PM
I've died a few times on Normal. :o
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Spurgeon on March 30, 2012, 03:39:05 PM
I just picked this up on account of you guys. I haven't touched the series since Dynasty Warriors 4.

You all better be telling the truth.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Trent Dole on March 30, 2012, 04:31:57 PM
Yes, come join us in the wonderful world of musou faggotry. Join uuuuus. There's a menu in the base camp where you can look over your characters and listen to monologues from them. People in the most recent battle will be celebratory of all their ko's and some people who haven't been used in a while/at all will lament that fact. :lol
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on March 30, 2012, 04:50:07 PM
Everyone knows Luo Guanzhong's Romance of the Three Kingdoms, and likewise, Chen Shou's Records of the Three Kingdoms.

But what's good literature (mostly non-fictional) that someone interested in Sengoku Period Japan can use to read up on the background on all the characters featured in Samurai Warriors? I'm familiar with Nobunaga Oda because I was obsessed with the figure in High School thanks due in part because of Nobunaga's Ambition line of games. But I never really learned much beyond the battles he fought, the people who supported him, and his general historicity. I even wrote a paper on one of his famous rain battle campaigns in History class.

Gosh I have a hard on for history. And people say you can't learn from games!
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Bebpo on March 30, 2012, 05:30:33 PM
Yes, come join us in the wonderful world of musou faggotry. Join uuuuus. There's a menu in the base camp where you can look over your characters and listen to monologues from them. People in the most recent battle will be celebratory of all their ko's and some people who haven't been used in a while/at all will lament that fact. :lol

It's crazy how much detail they put into some of these games.  Just having like 150+ famous voice actors in one game is something you'd never see anywhere else in the world.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on March 30, 2012, 06:46:46 PM
I've died a few times on Normal. :o

It can happen, depending whether you get caught up in a Musou attack.

I've been alternating between Hard and Chaos.  If I'm trying to build up a new character, I will play on Normal.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on March 30, 2012, 07:10:54 PM
Hard mode is the best balance ever. Archers can FUCK YOUR SHIT UP. MUSOUS WILL ONE HIT KILL YOU. But at the same time, it's not annoying and it's not a grind and it brings out the full potential of the combat system.

Even the Easy-tier missions are a challenge because staying above 30% health isn't as easy as you think on hard mode.

Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on March 30, 2012, 07:16:29 PM
PS: Hayabusa, Zhou Tai, and Tachibana is the team that keeps giving.

:bow
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Trent Dole on March 30, 2012, 10:54:14 PM
Just stuck with recommended teams but I'll second the hell out of Zhou Tai and Ginchiyo being fucking badass. Zhou's always badass.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on March 31, 2012, 12:04:09 AM
I didn't know that you could converse with generals and have them unlock additional stages.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Spurgeon on March 31, 2012, 08:39:27 AM
Any beginner tips? Seems like I'm clearing maps in spite of myself. I haven't bothered with the features in the camp like weapon creation and such.

Should I stick with recommended teams or go for someone in particular?
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on March 31, 2012, 09:17:59 AM
General tips:

- First check out move lists. Go to officer info in the menu and press X (360) or Square (ps3). You'll see their move lists. Move lists expand as characters level up (for the most part).
- DW characters have ex attacks. they'll unlock their ex after a certain level.
- SW characters are mostly charge attack based.
- DW characters do a musou that uses up a portion of their musou gauge and it's just one animation.
- SW characters don't require you to do a musou. Press B/Circle to activate it. You can do anything you want, but if you want to activate the musou, hold the musou button.
- When you unlock new characters do what I do, if you think they look cool, put them on your team, go to battle of Yiling (first stage) and set it to normal (or easy if you prefer). If you like their base move set, keep them and level them up. If you don't, drop them.
- Using "suggested officers" is only good for story purposes (aka these are the characters this map involves) and because it'll make the game more challenging.
- Use triple musou on enemy officers as much as possible for gems and crystals.

Weapons/loot:

- don't bother with buying weapons until you get access to four star weapons and lots and lots of crystals.
- completing maps will unlock better loot just beating them, and this will be more than enough without resorting to wasting precious gems.
- for weapon fusion, just pick the base weapon you want the other weapon to fuse into. First, you want lots of skill slots for your weapon of choice. Check out the skills on each weapon before you fuse and do this with a plan. So if you have a character who's real fucking strong (Zhou Tai) put some Courage on that sword (Courage increase attack). You can also stack skills. So if one weapon has courage and the next also has courage +2, your fused weapon will have Courage +3. Keep doing this until you have the weapon you want.
- Low level weapons are great for fusing to create more slots and that's their greatest benefit. So if you have a bunch of leftover shitty weapons with shitty skills, fuse them until they have 8 skill slots, saving your weapon list some room for the really good shit.

Bonds:

- Fighting with characters raises bonds, whether they're on your team or if they're just friendly officers in battle.
- On chapter 2, you unlock the teahouse. Use that to raise bonds with gems earned in battle.
- Change characters frequently while in camp because sometimes officers will show up, talk to them and you'll raise your bond with them.
- Some stages require high bond in order to unlock. Do all of the above until the stage unlocks. So if your bond with three characters is low, try making a team of those three characters and play a few maps with them and abuse the teahouse until the stage unlocks.

Playing the game in general:

This is a good video that shows that Koei makes more than button mashers

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_FNdaJmYzOA

Action starts at 1:59

Enjoy!
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on March 31, 2012, 09:19:49 AM
Oh, and when you find your footing and start to massacre stages on normal, bump it to hard for a real treat. You'll appreciate the game even more.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: magus on April 02, 2012, 03:21:59 PM
i've decided to check it out to join you guys but yeah after finishing the first chapter,my experience is really close to dynasty warrior 7 in that i enjoy all the unlocking aspect and the character but find the rest of the game to be just kind of monotonus and dull,actualy dynasty warrior 7 had that kickass story mode,now there is this non-sense stuff about demons and hydra :(

i've been playing on normal but i don't think i would get much more of a kick if i bumped it to hard,using recomended team on each level,i don't really get SW characters... you do their musou simply by keeping B pressed right? cause they feel a lot weaker than DW musou

at least there is no liu bei :smug
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on April 02, 2012, 04:08:08 PM
play on hard
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: magus on April 03, 2012, 04:28:20 PM
well allright i tried a mission on hard and i don't really see the appeal of that,the enemies have huge health bar and 3 hits take almost all my life bar,but that just encourage me to use hit and run tactic since the musou gauge and health of unactive member recharge while i'm escaping which makes the game even worse

besides the problem isn't "the game is too easy,button masher hur dur" it's just that it doesn't feel there's enough variety to hold everything together,it's especialy bad when you do a 20 minute missions with one of the character "dying" in it (like the one with lianshi) and then the game goes "ehy now re-do it again!" in dynasty warrior 7 there was the story mode to distract me from that but here,there's nothing,there is not even the excuse of the character since a lot of them aren't much different from dynasty warrior 7 anyway

maybe i should have jumped ship completly and tried that gundam game,didn't they remove all the animu music tough?
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on April 03, 2012, 04:40:18 PM
I like WO3 story mode a lot, but I'm familiar with all the characters. Musou games are all about fanservice. You'd be hard pressed to get into Dynasty Warriors GUndam without having watched most of the shows involved.

The fun in Wo3 story is seeing your favorite characters and their allegiances and how they band together to kick demon ass.

If you're doing bait and run tactics to increase musou gauge, you may be the problem and not the game, since I never have to do that.

If story is your issue, DWG3 won't do you any favors. Its story mode is far worse than WO3's, and their stories are similar in that it's a mass pile of characters from different series' in one big awesome sandwich, but whereas WO3's story is fun and interesting, DWG3's story is atrocious and I'd go out of my way to skip scenes.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: magus on April 03, 2012, 04:49:04 PM
i have never watched anything gundam related (maybe a few episode of gundam wing because they did it on tv) but i think i can dig giant anime robot more than ancient chinese warriors (except cao cao,none can rule his mustaches)

besides making such a switch involve every character being new,where here i keep getting stuck with familiar character which is another reason why i'm not enjoying myself much with WO3
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on April 03, 2012, 05:02:21 PM
The characters may be familiar but for the most part they have different move sets than they did in DW7 so I don't see how it's really relevant.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: magus on April 03, 2012, 05:07:49 PM
well if there are character with different move sets than what they had in DW7 i haven't seen them,sima zhao still surf on people,sun shang has still a shitty musou......
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on April 03, 2012, 07:09:31 PM
Is there a game that magus isn't a contrarian douchebag about?
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on April 03, 2012, 07:28:34 PM
well if there are character with different move sets than what they had in DW7 i haven't seen them,sima zhao still surf on people,sun shang has still a shitty musou......

If you want different movelists, play with Samurai Warriors characters, they have more variety.

For example, Hanbei is very charge attack based. So you'll often go normal -> charge -> charge -> charge or even charge -> charge -> charge. Combined with RB/R1 attacks and you have a very wide move palette. Each move has its own strengths and uses and finding how and when to use them to do the coolest fucking combos is fun.

Tachibana is very normal attack based but every single one of her normals can be canceled into a charge.

There should be enough Samurai Warriors characters and other characters to interest you. As for DW7 characters with different move lists, Jia Xu for instance seems pretty helluva different. The only characters I think that are still clones are Wang Yuanji and Zhu Rong but that's because they both use knives.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on April 03, 2012, 07:35:40 PM
at the very least, unlock ayane and ryu before you fully judge it.

Last night I had the hardest time on Magoichi Saika's map with Joan of Arc. Holy shit, I died at least 10 times and this was on hard. You have to defend Joan of Arc, Saika, AND make sure that Saika's troops aren't all taken out. So you're zipping across the map protecting at least four different forces from being overwhelmed by the orochi rear guard.

Fucking amazing map.

Clearing it felt like a real accomplishment.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: magus on April 03, 2012, 07:38:03 PM
wouldn't that break the recomended character tough?

besides as i said,the musou of every SW character feels really weak,to the point i'm still not sure if i'm doing something wrong or if it's just because they are level 1,you just keep the musou button pressed right?

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at the very least, unlock ayane and ryu before you fully judge it.

eh already did it tough i haven't had the chance to use them,the ninja gaiden remix was a nice change of pace in music
i stopped playing after unlocking those two because the game went "ehy,you should totaly replay this map and go rescue lu meng"
seriously that's the worst part of the game >:(
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on April 03, 2012, 07:41:25 PM
Why the fuck are you using recommended character and not who you want to use? On hard mode, that doesn't matter.

Level 1 characters aren't that great. My Tachibana can clear mobs almost as well as my Zhou Tai.

I don't mind replaying maps because that's how I play. Whenever I unlock a new character, I go to Yiling (the first map) and try them out on it.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on April 03, 2012, 07:43:08 PM
That's why you're having to use bait tactics, you're using level 1 recommended officers on hard mode.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: magus on April 03, 2012, 07:49:38 PM
i tought there was some sort of advantage into playing with the recomended team?
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Van Cruncheon on April 03, 2012, 07:51:04 PM
the character musou has two purposes: 1) break a juggle; 2) cancel an enemy general's musou. damage/crowd control is secondary.

you take down generals with the trinity attack. you clear crowds with EX strings and R1 "special" attacks. build your character wepons and items to boost normals, strongs (ESPECIALLY strongs), and specials. fuck musous.

Y U MUSOU NOOB?
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: MrAngryFace on April 03, 2012, 11:18:41 PM
God damn Omega Force has been on a roll lately. Ginchiyo is still awesome, gonna get Yue Ying going on, Pang De is just too OMG
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on April 04, 2012, 09:18:57 PM
Last night I had the hardest time on Magoichi Saika's map with Joan of Arc. Holy shit, I died at least 10 times and this was on hard. You have to defend Joan of Arc, Saika, AND make sure that Saika's troops aren't all taken out. So you're zipping across the map protecting at least four different forces from being overwhelmed by the orochi rear guard.

Fucking amazing map.

Clearing it felt like a real accomplishment.

Speaking of Magoichi Saika. He has the COOLEST move list.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on April 04, 2012, 10:04:40 PM
Holy shit, the Battle of Xuchang
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Trent Dole on April 05, 2012, 04:30:51 PM
Nobunaga's Pokemons is coming to NA as Pokemon Conquest on June 18th. :hyper
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on April 05, 2012, 04:34:56 PM
Who gives a fuck. Give me a REAL Nobunaga. Nobunaga's Ambition: Tendou is on 360 and ps3. PLEASE BRING THAT OVER.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Trent Dole on April 05, 2012, 10:35:14 PM
Who gives a fuck. Give me a REAL Nobunaga. Nobunaga's Ambition: Tendou is on 360 and ps3. PLEASE BRING THAT OVER.
If it's on 360 the outlook of it coming west is promising.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on April 05, 2012, 11:17:47 PM
I have Zhou Tai, Ginchiyo Tachibana, and Nemea to over level 50.  Now I'm clearing stages on Chaos like it is nothing.

Also, lottery tickets are awesome.  I was able to get three and four star weapons relatively early on, turning the three generals above into killing machines :hyper
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on April 06, 2012, 02:50:21 AM
Who gives a fuck. Give me a REAL Nobunaga. Nobunaga's Ambition: Tendou is on 360 and ps3. PLEASE BRING THAT OVER.
If it's on 360 the outlook of it coming west is promising.

no it's not the game came out in 2010
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Trent Dole on April 06, 2012, 12:29:54 PM
welp :-[ :-\
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: pancakesandsex on April 06, 2012, 03:05:23 PM
I hope the EU version of WO3 is compatible online wise with the US version.  I decided to import the EU ps3 version because I don't really want to be chained to a  digital only copy.  Guess I'll be nabbing some PSN cards for DLC.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on April 07, 2012, 12:05:20 PM
Tell Koei Tecmo Japan (in English!) how you like WO3 and your past Warriors games history.

http://www.gamecity.ne.jp/form/wo3_na
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on April 07, 2012, 12:47:51 PM
Tell Koei Tecmo Japan (in English!) how you like WO3 and your past Warriors games history.

http://www.gamecity.ne.jp/form/wo3_na

Done.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: MrAngryFace on April 07, 2012, 01:29:25 PM
WO3 is pretty amazing.
DW7 is pretty amazing.
DW Next is pretty amazing.
Samurai Warriors Chronicles is pretty amazing.

Omega Force is rockin it these days
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Bebpo on April 07, 2012, 05:00:24 PM
You forgot DWG3!

And I agree, the teams are on the top of their game these days.  Except for the team that did FoTNS & One Piece.  Those are ok, but definitely B/C-tier musou games.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: MrAngryFace on April 07, 2012, 05:37:54 PM
Ah good catch also Samurai Warriors 3Z is pretty awesome too.

I gotta disagree on FotNS, it was great considering the source material. I havent played one piece though.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Van Cruncheon on April 07, 2012, 08:00:07 PM
is kaizoku musou america-bound?
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Bebpo on April 07, 2012, 08:32:10 PM
I think so.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on April 07, 2012, 10:02:23 PM
is kaizoku musou america-bound?

trademarked, yesh
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on April 08, 2012, 04:43:08 PM
I gotta disagree on FotNS, it was great considering the source material. I havent played one piece though.

FoTNS is good, Bebpo said he hasn't played much of these games at all so no idea why he is ranking them.

One Piece does feel more shallow in terms of content and while still enjoyable enough, I think it's the "worst" of all these Musou games.  However I'm also a way bigger FoTNS fan than I am a One Piece fan.   :)
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Bebpo on April 08, 2012, 05:29:33 PM
Eh, FoTNS is good for FoTNS fans and very accurate to the show.  One Piece is good for OP fans and very accurate to the show.  If you aren't a fan of either series and just look at them as musou games, they don't really compare to the quality of something like WO3.

I don't think they are bad games, but in the lower tier than the A team games.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on April 08, 2012, 09:10:08 PM
Eh, FoTNS is good for FoTNS fans and very accurate to the show.  One Piece is good for OP fans and very accurate to the show.  If you aren't a fan of either series and just look at them as musou games, they don't really compare to the quality of something like WO3.

I don't think they are bad games, but in the lower tier than the A team games.

How much of those two games have you played?
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: MrAngryFace on April 08, 2012, 10:40:30 PM
FotNS was great, the demo was meh but I finished the main story of the game and loved it.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on April 08, 2012, 10:44:01 PM
I thought bebpo said OP Musou is great
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Bebpo on April 08, 2012, 10:50:05 PM
It has good parts and bad parts.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on April 09, 2012, 11:35:45 AM
Eh, FoTNS is good for FoTNS fans and very accurate to the show.  One Piece is good for OP fans and very accurate to the show.  If you aren't a fan of either series and just look at them as musou games, they don't really compare to the quality of something like WO3.

I don't think they are bad games, but in the lower tier than the A team games.

How much of those two games have you played?

.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on April 09, 2012, 04:20:45 PM
Guess not much at all.   >:(

So why are you ranking them? 
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Bebpo on April 09, 2012, 06:49:22 PM
Played them enough to see what is good/bad about them.

Are you seriously going to argue that license aside, FoTNS is as good as the best DW/WO games?  I love OP and I'm certainly not going to argue OP is as good as those.  FoTNS/OP have tiny rosters compared to the big meaty DW/SW/WO/GM games.


You seem to be ignoring that I think FoTNS & OP are good musou games.  Just between the team that does SW/DW/WO/GM and the team that does FoTNS/OP, I think the former is the A-team and the latter is the B-team.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on April 09, 2012, 06:50:51 PM
dwg1 wasn't that great either
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Trent Dole on April 09, 2012, 06:53:27 PM
Apparently the Musou Battlefields feature is kinda busted on 360 since there's supposedly NO created stages up to DL.  :(
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Bebpo on April 09, 2012, 07:00:32 PM
dwg1 wasn't that great either

I agree.  It didn't really reach A-tier quality until DWG3.  I'm sure if they do more OP/FoTNS it'll just keep getting better and better.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: MrAngryFace on April 09, 2012, 07:02:06 PM
Has anyone tried the custom orochi 3 map stuff? Good bad? I havent bothered- grindan bonds in main campaign.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: MrAngryFace on April 09, 2012, 07:03:57 PM
WAIT. A fuck second. DWG1 was better than 2 entirely, and in some ways is better than 3.

DWG1 has the superior story and charactarization. In mission events meant more and the game was just incredibly charming. DWG3 is superior to all three in terms of mechanics, but like 2, without a soul.

I traded in DWG2, kept 1 and 3.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on April 09, 2012, 07:05:18 PM
agreed about story in regards to dwg1. but we're talking about the gameplay for the most part.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: MrAngryFace on April 09, 2012, 07:06:36 PM
DWG2 gameplay was busted weird asian grinding adventure. The mechanics weren't that much more evolved either. Playing it was a CHORE.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on April 09, 2012, 07:07:21 PM
haven't played dwg2
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: MrAngryFace on April 09, 2012, 07:12:57 PM
Its really bad imo
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Bebpo on April 09, 2012, 07:20:07 PM
DWG2 was terrible, yeah.  I liked 1 a lot, but overall 3 is a way better game.  The only place where 3 is weaker is story.  The roster & gameplay are sooooo much better than DWG1.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJChDGcLmoA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YEhfcx5bkYo

DWG1 has my favorite cutscenes in any musou game to date.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on April 09, 2012, 07:21:40 PM
DW7 has the best cutscenes.

SUN CE.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: MrAngryFace on April 09, 2012, 07:28:56 PM
1 and 3 are worth owning- 2 is not. I hated 2 the more I played it. I had to defend 1 though- it was a fun ride.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on April 09, 2012, 11:41:26 PM
I thought DWG1 was the best because I like the large, expansive maps, even if some concepts appeared half baked.  DWG3 felt claustrophobic by comparison but was otherwise an excellent game.  DWG2 was a really awful version of DWG3.  I think we can all agree that part 2 is the worst.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on April 09, 2012, 11:45:31 PM
Holy shit chapter 3 in WO3 is AMAZING.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on April 09, 2012, 11:49:26 PM
Played them enough to see what is good/bad about them.

You said a few pages back that these games were in your backlog.  I still want to know how much you played...playing some of Ken's story mode and not playing the other main mode is not enough when it comes to FoTNS, for example.

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Are you seriously going to argue that license aside, FoTNS is as good as the best DW/WO games?  I love OP and I'm certainly not going to argue OP is as good as those.  FoTNS/OP have tiny rosters compared to the big meaty DW/SW/WO/GM games.

FoTNS has HUGE skill trees for its characters though.  It takes way, way longer to build someone up and the difference between the characters is more noticeable. 


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You seem to be ignoring that I think FoTNS & OP are good musou games.  Just between the team that does SW/DW/WO/GM and the team that does FoTNS/OP, I think the former is the A-team and the latter is the B-team.

I'm not ignoring it...I'm still waiting for you to say how much you have played these games.   :lol  I played the shit out of FoTNS -and still have a bunch of stuff I could do in the game- and actually do put it up there with the best.  I loved it...bought all the DLC for it too...some of the challenge maps are brutal. 

I haven't played enough of One Piece, on the other hand, to completely judge it, but while it seems to be a fun little romp, it really feels lacking compared to pretty much all the other musou games that I have played.  Gundam and Hokuto did it better.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: MrAngryFace on April 10, 2012, 12:28:13 AM
I thought DWG1 was the best because I like the large, expansive maps, even if some concepts appeared half baked.  DWG3 felt claustrophobic by comparison but was otherwise an excellent game.  DWG2 was a really awful version of DWG3.  I think we can all agree that part 2 is the worst.

I'll give you all of that- I did like the larger maps of the original. DWG1 was a lot of oldskool musou- where 3 borrows from a lot of the empires and later dw/sw games. I will say they totally did us a solid by including so many dlc gundams from the latest series
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Bebpo on April 10, 2012, 12:28:34 AM
Played them enough to see what is good/bad about them.

You said a few pages back that these games were in your backlog.  I still want to know how much you played...playing some of Ken's story mode and not playing the other main mode is not enough when it comes to FoTNS, for example.

Probably ~5 hours.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: MrAngryFace on April 10, 2012, 12:28:59 AM
I honestly think FotNS Musou is as good as a FotNS game will EVER get.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on April 10, 2012, 08:12:44 AM
Played them enough to see what is good/bad about them.

You said a few pages back that these games were in your backlog.  I still want to know how much you played...playing some of Ken's story mode and not playing the other main mode is not enough when it comes to FoTNS, for example.

Probably ~5 hours.

But what did that entail?  Was it just the story mode?

A lot of people wrote the game off because of how Kenshiro plays in the beginning of the story mode or seem to think everyone plays like he does. 

Anyway, the big thing here is that FoTNS has a Musou mode....One Piece seems to just be the story mode and that's it.  That's disappointing. 

I honestly think FotNS Musou is as good as a FotNS game will EVER get.

The Arc System Works fighting game had way more fan service going on, but yeah, FoTNS by Koei really nailed some stuff.  I guess they could do another game based on the later storylines but I'd rather see them Musou-ify something else.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: MrAngryFace on April 11, 2012, 02:00:48 AM
Ginchiyo's laser sword shit is so fuckin awesome. Fucking arc, range, AND invincible during the animation. just pump up her musou gauge max and go to town
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on April 11, 2012, 02:02:26 AM
Nobunaga is the MAN.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: MrAngryFace on April 11, 2012, 02:05:40 AM
They totally re-tuned the battle of Yiling though- in the original version the maze had a shitload of annoying traps and you had to fight Yue Ying iirc. Probably for the best, the maze was just endless dart traps n shit. Maybe its all there in the hardest mode? I dunno
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on April 11, 2012, 12:27:42 PM
HOLY FUCK AT THE BOAT WEAPON

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_gsSCFf_hE
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on April 11, 2012, 12:34:28 PM
Damn, might be time to buy DW7 XL!   :lol
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on April 11, 2012, 01:55:50 PM
http://www.siliconera.com/2012/04/11/one-piece-pirate-warriors-stretching-to-north-america/
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on April 11, 2012, 05:34:05 PM
Looks to be digital download only again for PS3 in North America.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: MrAngryFace on April 11, 2012, 05:36:26 PM
im glad they're taking the cheaper localization route if it means 360 actually gets stuff brought over. I mean yeah id love the hilarious dubs but you take what you can get I guess :(
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on April 11, 2012, 06:57:58 PM
Looks to be digital download only again for PS3 in North America.

they're fighting for both physical and digital because One Piece is popular enough for it in america
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on April 12, 2012, 12:08:59 PM
http://www.joystiq.com/2012/04/11/one-piece-pirate-warriors-sails-to-north-america-this-year/

ps3 only, digital only :(
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Mr. Gundam on April 12, 2012, 12:14:36 PM
Why would it get a 360 version? That doesn't exist.

This digital only BS is stupid.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: MrAngryFace on April 12, 2012, 12:28:44 PM
Im talking about Orochi 3- mostly- there wasn't a 360 version and then they made a cheap one for us.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on April 12, 2012, 12:34:36 PM
DW7 jp didn't have a 360 version either.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: MrAngryFace on April 12, 2012, 12:50:14 PM
but dw7xtreme didnt come over on 360 fuuuuuu
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on April 12, 2012, 01:02:18 PM
it was also an expansion, so not much was lost!
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on April 12, 2012, 04:18:11 PM
Im talking about Orochi 3- mostly- there wasn't a 360 version and then they made a cheap one for us.

 ???

(http://image4.play-asia.com/640/bf/pa.205725.1.jpg)

AFAIK DW7XL and Kaizoku Musou are the only two musou games that the 360 didn't get, with DW7 not being released in Japan for 360 for whatever reason.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on April 12, 2012, 04:20:54 PM
DW7 didn't come out in Japan on 360.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on April 12, 2012, 04:21:55 PM
DW7 didn't come out in Japan on 360.

Which makes no sense.

"Fuck 360 for our biggest musou, but let's give 'em Orochi Musou 2!"   ???

Then you have Capcom, who releases Sengoku Basara for like every platform EXCEPT the 360.   :lol :-\
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: MrAngryFace on April 12, 2012, 04:46:56 PM
didnt they say XL didnt come to 360 cause of voice loc costs- yet DWGundam 3 which has way more (and probably more expensive) voice came over
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on April 12, 2012, 04:59:45 PM
why couldn't they put it on xbla
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: MrAngryFace on April 13, 2012, 12:18:33 AM
Anyone having trouble with the battle near the end with the two hydra heads and the lame cannon?
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on April 13, 2012, 01:36:52 AM
No, I beat it without beating chapter 3, got the normal ending. Just takes patience.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on April 14, 2012, 02:46:49 PM
Maxed out my Zhou Tai 8)  Ginchiyo and Nemea aren't far behind.  There is still a lot of game left for me to go through.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Mr. Gundam on April 17, 2012, 11:58:44 AM
So One Piece Musou isn't a digital only release in North America...

Quote
Arriving in November 2012 as a simultaneous digital and Blu-ray release, PS3-exclusive One Piece: Pirate Warriors takes the insanely popular manga/anime series to new heights in this stylized brawler.

http://blog.us.playstation.com/2012/...kuni-and-more/
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on April 17, 2012, 05:59:21 PM
November?  Guess I don't mind having imported after all.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on April 21, 2012, 04:53:10 PM
Maxed out my Zhou Tai 8)  Ginchiyo and Nemea aren't far behind.  There is still a lot of game left for me to go through.

Maxed out Zhou Tai, Ginchiyo Tachibana, and Nemea.

I decided to go with an all female group: Joan of Arc, Nene, and Sun Shang Xiang.  Joan of Arc and Sun Shang Xiang already have four star weapons with lots of attributes courtesy of the lottery so I'm kicking ass with this trio already.

I'm about a third of the way through the Story Mode.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Trent Dole on April 22, 2012, 10:59:04 PM
Spent several hours getting the rare items with a guide today and I still have like 10+ more to get. This game never ends. :rock
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Mr. Gundam on May 08, 2012, 10:28:17 PM
Sengoku Basara HD Collection this August.

http://andriasang.com/con0xb/sengoku_basara_hd_date/
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on May 08, 2012, 11:20:14 PM
 :hyper
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on May 08, 2012, 11:28:26 PM
Musou Orochi 2 (Warriors Orochi 3) is coming out this summer for...

...PSP.   :-\  Rachel from Ninja Gaiden will be added.

http://andriasang.com/con0xc/musou_orochi_2_psp/

First Sengoku Musou 3Z for PSP, now this.  Damn it Koei- release this for VITA.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on May 08, 2012, 11:30:50 PM
3Z was a pretty solid title but I think it will be hard to go back to any Musou title after Orochi 3.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Bebpo on May 09, 2012, 12:20:23 AM
Sengoku Basara HD Collection this August.

http://andriasang.com/con0xb/sengoku_basara_hd_date/

I dunno why anyone would play SB1/2 when 3 exists.

I guess SB2 for the stories and any characters that didn't make it over to 3, but there is zero reason to ever touch SB1.  It's such an inferior game to 2/3.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on May 09, 2012, 12:46:42 PM
SB2/Heroes for the stories and more playable characters and modes.

Definitely no point in playing SB1.  I didn't even like that game very much when I tried it.  Capcom improved parts of it when they localized as Devil Kings.  Never played that version so I don't know what was changed.

And why not make it a complete package by throwing in Basara X?
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on May 09, 2012, 12:58:26 PM
http://andriasang.com/con0y1/images/23xz2/full.jpg
(http://andriasang.com/con0y1/images/23xz2/full.jpg)

 :-\
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Bebpo on May 09, 2012, 02:36:43 PM
SB2/Heroes for the stories and more playable characters and modes.

Definitely no point in playing SB1.  I didn't even like that game very much when I tried it.  Capcom improved parts of it when they localized as Devil Kings.  Never played that version so I don't know what was changed.

And why not make it a complete package by throwing in Basara X?

I agree Basara X would be nice, but 2d assets don't scale all that well!  No way to make them "HD"
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on May 09, 2012, 03:16:02 PM
S'fine at 480P and "upscaled" when playing enhanced on the PS3 already.  The game would look perfectly fine.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on May 30, 2012, 03:24:03 AM
http://andriasang.com/con179/dw7_empires_announced/

FUCK YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Trent Dole on May 30, 2012, 03:40:17 AM
What're the odds on a international release? We didn't get SW3E.  :(
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on May 30, 2012, 03:52:54 AM
we didn't get sw3 for ps3 either

chances are high
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Bebpo on June 02, 2012, 04:00:13 AM
So, Warriors Orochi 3 is like the best party game ever.

Had some friends over and we did some split screen story mode and it was lololol so fun trying out all these crazy characters.  Like OMG I AM HITTING PEOPLE WITH NINJA DARTS WTF.  LOOK AT MY DOUBLE AXES CATCHING EVERY GUY IN THE WAY.  AHHHHHHHH LIGHTSABER JUST BECAME A GUNDAMSABER ZOMGGGGGG.

And after every map you unlock like 3-5 new guys so everyone keeps getting new crazy cast members to try out.  We compared it to Diablo 3 where you're always getting new loot you wanna try.  WO3 is hard to put down because you just want 1 more map to try out the new characters.


The older musou games were never really a big hit with friends in multi-player, but because of the structure of WO3, it's a great party game.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on June 02, 2012, 12:54:12 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/GWUqP.png)

STEAM
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on June 02, 2012, 01:10:39 PM
I wish that was WO3 on Steam.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on June 02, 2012, 01:35:16 PM
I'll buy DW7 again if it is on steam
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on June 02, 2012, 01:55:11 PM
I wish that was WO3 on Steam.

phht.

i want dw7E on steam
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: cool breeze on July 18, 2012, 09:38:44 PM
One Piece Pirate Warriors is coming out as a PSN game on September 25th

http://www.siliconera.com/2012/07/18/one-piece-pirate-warriors-set-for-september-release-as-a-psn-download/

I know some of these niche games are digital download only (Way of the Samurai 4, Warrior Orochi 3 PS3) but it's odd for a One Piece game.  It's the type of game you'd expect kids to nag their parents to buy based on the cover alone....assuming One Piece is popular in America.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on July 18, 2012, 09:41:17 PM
assuming One Piece is popular in America.

:rofl
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Trent Dole on July 18, 2012, 11:01:23 PM
One Piece being digital only is kind of an odd/dumb move, yes.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Mr. Gundam on July 18, 2012, 11:41:23 PM
One Piece Pirate Warriors is coming out as a PSN game on September 25th

http://www.siliconera.com/2012/07/18/one-piece-pirate-warriors-set-for-september-release-as-a-psn-download/

I know some of these niche games are digital download only (Way of the Samurai 4, Warrior Orochi 3 PS3) but it's odd for a One Piece game.  It's the type of game you'd expect kids to nag their parents to buy based on the cover alone....assuming One Piece is popular in America.

They don't have English audio. so Sony says digital only even though Yakuza is allowed to come out on a disc without English audio. Fucking assholes.

http://www.play.com/Games/PlayStation3/4-/31403815/0/One-Piece-Pirate-Warriors/ListingDetails.html?searchstring=one+piece&searchsource=0&searchtype=allproducts&urlrefer=search

~$62 right now.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on July 19, 2012, 10:24:37 AM
Anyone want to buy my import copy of One Piece?  I'm probably never going to play through it at this point...don't think it's as good as the other musou games.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Mr. Gundam on July 19, 2012, 11:49:11 AM
Anyone want to buy my import copy of One Piece?  I'm probably never going to play through it at this point...don't think it's as good as the other musou games.

How much?
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on July 19, 2012, 12:58:00 PM
Anyone want to buy my import copy of One Piece?  I'm probably never going to play through it at this point...don't think it's as good as the other musou games.

How much?

Shoot me an offer!
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on July 20, 2012, 09:54:27 AM
Eh, might as well keep the game and try to get something out of it.  Too much damn DLC though.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on October 30, 2012, 12:48:56 PM
Shin Sangoku Musou 7 (Dynasty Warriors 8 ) was announced in Famitsu.

(http://gematsu.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/Dynasty-Warriors-8-Announce.jpg)

PS3-only this time?
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on October 30, 2012, 12:50:42 PM
Really? :wtf

What about Samurai Warriors 4?
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on October 30, 2012, 02:03:07 PM
I thought they said SW4 was still a few years off.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Trent Dole on October 30, 2012, 04:43:37 PM
Shin Sangoku Musou 7 (Dynasty Warriors 8 ) was announced in Famitsu.

http://gematsu.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/Dynasty-Warriors-8-Announce.jpg

PS3-only this time?
Awww sheeeit. DW7 was PS3 exclusive in JP land and was thrown on 360 for its international release. If it's PS3 only everywhere then it'll be time I buy a PS3.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on October 30, 2012, 09:20:56 PM
http://www.siliconera.com/2012/10/30/dynasty-warriors-8-has-storm-rush-variable-counter-and-awakeing-actions/

Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on November 02, 2012, 12:53:39 PM
Yup, it's DW.

(http://gematsu.com/gallery/albums/dynasty-warriors-8/november-2-2012/Dynasty-Warriors-8_2012_11-02-12_012.jpg)
(http://gematsu.com/gallery/albums/dynasty-warriors-8/november-2-2012/Dynasty-Warriors-8_2012_11-02-12_019.jpg)

More at http://gematsu.com/gallery/dynasty-warriors-8/november-2-2012/
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Takao on November 02, 2012, 11:26:42 PM
English dub of the Basara animu movie is streaming for free this weekend on Youtube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tkOGc5r306Q
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on November 28, 2012, 10:36:57 PM
Fist Of The Northstar: Ken's Rage 2 is coming out on February 5th in North America.  Disc release for 360, download on PS3.  That's only a bit over a month after the Japanese release.  I still may import though...would prefer to have the game on a disc and if it's like the original, the PS3 version will be better.

Dynasty Warriors 7 Empires is February 26th...PS3-only download.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: MrAngryFace on November 28, 2012, 11:10:33 PM
I will buy it all- pour it in my mouth
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on November 29, 2012, 02:54:39 PM
Fist 2 demo up on J-PSN!  :hyper

Quote
Tecmo Koei has released a demo for Fist of the North Star: Ken’s Rage 2 on PlayStation Network in Japan.

Available now, the demo offers a full playthrough of the story mode’s “Z Invasion” chapter, and a portion of the “Anger with the Heavens” chapter.

Fist of the North Star: Ken’s Rage 2 will launch for PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360 on December 20 in Japan, February 22 in Europe, and February 26 in North America.
http://gematsu.com/2012/11/fist-of-the-north-star-2-demo-hits-japanese-psn
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on December 02, 2012, 08:43:15 PM
Samurai Warriors > Dynasty Warriors

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/d0/Samurai_Warriors_2.jpg)

:bow

I'm not sure how anyone can say anything otherwise unless they're willing to admit combat is better, especially if we're talking DW7, but even then, SW2's characters are far more unique in their movesets which makes combat more fun than the weapon switching in DW7.

While Dynasty Warriors 7 was great and my favorite game of 2011, Samurai Warriors 2 is the real deal. Things I think SW2 (and by extension, SWC) does better than DW7:

- Battle management. You really feel like you're one against many as you turn the tide of battle in this game. In one Yukimura stage, you have to help Mitsunari build a castle to attack Odawara. You have to beat the guys holding the castle, jet to the southwest corner, defeat the guard for ease of access to the engineers, then you'll find that guys from the south part of the map are heading towards the castle and it's your job to stop them. You have to take two-three guys in blazing fast speed, then help out the engineers, escort them, and allow the castle to built. This gives strategic advantage to winning the map, allowing a fast shortcut and your troops access to attack Odawara.

I failed getting this castle built a few times and beating the mission was extremely tough. My security and backup for Toyotomi was non existent as he was routed in a pincer attack from the opposing army's main forces. With no one to slow them down, this resulted in a fast game over. These maps have far more tension, strategy, and actual level design compared to Dynasty Warriors 7's maps. I am thoroughly impressed.

- You have to work for upgrades. In DW7 you start out with a horse period. You don't buy one, either. But in SW2, in order to have your own horse you have to buy it with your own money. Skills? You buy them, which makes them feel more rewarding than them being drops as they are in Warriors Orochi 2 and 3 or learning them in an rpg-style fashion like in DW7. I really like this, because it gives weight to the currency beyond upgrading weapons and smithing.

- Enemies do not fuck around. These generals will block my shit, constantly. I'll have to actually evade (I love this button) and block because they will wittle my health down even on normal mode.

I'm not sure if past Dynasty Warriors were like what I described because 7 was my first, but I've played DW7, DWG1 and 3, Warriors Orochi 2 and 3, Ken's Rage, and from a gameplay standpoint, this is easily at the top with Warriors Orochi 3. I'm actually annoyed Koei announced DW8, and I have to wait till 2014 to play Samurai Warriors 4 now. If SW4 combines DW7 and WO3's next gen polish with what makes SW2 so great, it could easily be a contender best Musou game.

Now, back to slaughtering samurai.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on December 03, 2012, 08:58:54 PM
Yup, always like Samurai Warriors more myself.  But gimme SW3 now...it, Ken's Rage, and Warriors Orochi (all of them) are my favorites from Koei.

Tried the new Hokuto Musou demo.  They let you play the entire first storyline battle against Zeed and his army, then the beginning of the next chapter where you fight up until one of Shin's henchmen.

Nice improvement over the original- Kenshiro controls better and doesn't feel so stiff.  They ditched the jump button in favor of a Kaizoku Musou style dash for avoiding attacks, and the game play overall feels faster.  It also looks like they got rid of the sections where you just walk forward with nothing happening- good idea!  The story is incredibly faithful to its source material and is told in mainly slightly-animated comic-style panels.  I have a feeling I will probably give in and import this in a few weeks. 
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on December 03, 2012, 09:11:40 PM
Is kens rage 2 demo on 360
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on December 03, 2012, 10:12:40 PM
Maybe on gold J-XBL?  I dunno.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on December 05, 2012, 05:12:05 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/ZOXeZ.jpg)

 ::)
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Madrun Badrun on December 05, 2012, 05:36:45 PM
did the first one ever get to north america?
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on December 05, 2012, 05:41:14 PM
On ps3, yes
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on December 05, 2012, 07:20:51 PM
Why the  ::), himu?  We all knew this was coming.  Omega Force always cranks 'em out.

Although I mentioned this at work today and the girl next to me had no idea the original even existed. 
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on December 05, 2012, 08:02:15 PM
Well, I guess it's because I haven't played 1 yet and the chances of this going to 360 are slim.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Mr. Gundam on December 05, 2012, 08:12:55 PM
Well, I guess it's because I haven't played 1 yet and the chances of this going to 360 are slim.

That's being kind. :lol Did you really think they'd release a One Piece game on the 360?

Did you sell your PS3 or something, you sound annoyed.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on December 05, 2012, 08:28:05 PM
No, I still have it but I haven't gamed on it in a year and I only use it for blu ray. Why did Ken's Rage 2 and Gundam 2 come to 360 and One Piece didn't? Shit is inconsistent and annoying. In February, we are getting Ken's Rage 2 for 360, but NOT Dynasty Warriors 7: Empires, IN THE SAME MONTH. ??? Meanwhile, we got Warriors Orochi 3 for 360. ???
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Mr. Gundam on December 05, 2012, 10:35:08 PM
Dude, if you have a PS3, buy the fucking game.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on December 05, 2012, 10:43:59 PM
Dude, if you have a PS3, buy the fucking game.

.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Bebpo on December 06, 2012, 12:30:54 PM
I'm guessing OPM2 will be the "real" OP Musou.  It'll probably ditch the pointless platforming stages, double the roster, and improve the musou-ness.  The first game had a lot of solid foundations but it definitely felt like a beta version. 
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on December 06, 2012, 12:32:31 PM
Glad I didn't buy any content for the original.  Likely will get the sequel on Vita this time around.  But where is a port of Warriors Orochi 3 Hyper to Vita, Koei?

I did go nuts and buy EVERYTHING they had for Hokuto Musou...will probably do the same for the sequel.   :lol
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on December 11, 2012, 02:49:22 AM
oh my god

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IckAI_1_3bI
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on December 11, 2012, 11:51:06 AM
(http://cdn.motinetwork.net/demotivationalposters.net/image/demotivational-poster/small/0902/the-cup-cup-demotivational-poster-1233885765.jpg)
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Van Cruncheon on December 11, 2012, 02:20:05 PM
put it in me now, put it in me hard
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on December 11, 2012, 02:34:46 PM
call the peta on zhao yun plz
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on December 14, 2012, 12:47:12 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-GKC7WHSY0g
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on December 20, 2012, 01:31:07 AM
http://www.famitsu.com/news/201212/20026191.html

First Jin (GOAT KINGDOM) pics

(http://i.imgur.com/gT9pH.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/QnHOh.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/HGsZT.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/NtIaq.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/fDdiv.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/gA9LG.jpg)


(http://i.imgur.com/BSVRg.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/vQu0O.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/UxqE4.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/2zm4u.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/yfzx3.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/XX6mr.jpg)
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on December 21, 2012, 11:22:13 AM
Looks great- must avoid the temptation to import DW8.

Although my copy of Hokuto Musou 2 should be here today!  :hyper
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: MrAngryFace on December 21, 2012, 11:34:29 AM
looks great
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: MrAngryFace on December 21, 2012, 11:37:28 AM
That said, they better not fuck up yue ying with any uguu lookin shit
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on December 21, 2012, 04:06:57 PM
UPS got my package from HK to Atlanta no problem...then posted a delivery exception due to someone leaving the package behind at the sort facility.  :'(
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Trent Dole on December 21, 2012, 07:40:01 PM
Oh hi don't mind me just bein' a gay vampire.
                                                           /
(http://i.imgur.com/gA9LG.jpg)
I'm there day one for the western release of this shit. :hyper
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on December 21, 2012, 09:08:40 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wcCypisQFzE
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on December 21, 2012, 09:10:54 PM
holy shit dian wei
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on December 22, 2012, 02:02:20 PM
Looks pretty awesome.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on December 24, 2012, 03:41:32 PM
Shin Hokuto Musou has arrived!

Holiday break musou commences again! :hyper
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on December 31, 2012, 11:47:21 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hL0mbsIVGZw
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Mpl90 on December 31, 2012, 12:00:25 PM
Can't wait for One Piece: Pirate Warriors 2 :D
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on December 31, 2012, 01:00:55 PM
just saw gum gum ufo in that vid
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on January 10, 2013, 04:59:51 AM
May have to buy Ken's Rage 2  :o

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tAiXBqPUc0A
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on January 21, 2013, 08:23:16 PM
One Piece 2 has been confirmed for a U.S. release.  PS3-only and PSN-only.

Will definitely be importing now.
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Post by: Madrun Badrun on January 21, 2013, 10:05:28 PM
PSN is good.  The first one is 74$ + shipping on amazon.ca  fuck that.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: MCD on January 22, 2013, 01:58:14 AM
Whenever I want to buy one of these games, I say nah...maybe later.

Then they announce the sequel and the cycle continues.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Trent Dole on January 22, 2013, 02:18:37 AM
Orochi 3 is like $20 on Amazon duder. Buy or die! :gun
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Post by: MCD on January 22, 2013, 02:30:15 AM
Price isn't the issue, time is.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: MoxManiac on January 24, 2013, 10:44:46 AM
I wonder if DW8 will get an english dub? Koei seems to be moving towards keeping the jp voices lately.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on January 24, 2013, 10:57:59 AM
Only for smaller titles it seems. DW8 will probably be dubbed it is the flagship.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Trent Dole on January 26, 2013, 11:21:49 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5OgZQFmb9Sg
:hyper :hyper :hyper
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on January 27, 2013, 12:12:33 AM
Omg :hyper
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on January 27, 2013, 11:33:08 AM
I hope we get it in English quickly enough...I think DW *7* Empires finally comes out here when DW8 releases in Japan. 
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Momo on January 27, 2013, 12:40:31 PM
Ooh, I can talk about One Piece in here? Loved the game, looking forward to part 2. Hope they drop those shitty QTE traversal sections though, they were pretty shit for an otherwise awesome game
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on January 27, 2013, 12:45:34 PM
Whatever happened to the supposed PC/Steam port?
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on January 30, 2013, 10:33:51 AM
It HAD a pc port but those idiots at KT won't put it on steam
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Mr. Gundam on February 07, 2013, 01:51:48 AM
(http://cdn01.animenewsnetwork.com/thumbnails/max500x500/cms/interest/59561/untitled.png)
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Post by: Momo on February 07, 2013, 02:17:42 AM
7up :bow2

Mountain Dew :piss2
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Post by: Himu on February 07, 2013, 02:18:31 AM
First Lu Bu with a Pepsi and now Zhao Yun with 7up! What's next?! Cao Cao with root beer?! Sima Yi with PEPSI BLUE?
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Bebpo on February 07, 2013, 03:14:39 AM
Hey Himuro, did you hear that Law & Smoker are playable in OP Musou 2?
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on February 07, 2013, 03:17:40 AM
:o
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Bebpo on February 07, 2013, 03:20:11 AM
Yeah, there's a Punk Hazard stage too.  Which I'm kind of surprised since it's so recent.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on February 07, 2013, 03:27:41 AM
PUNK HAZARD?!?!?!?!
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on February 07, 2013, 08:20:34 AM
Did any of you guys get Ken's Rage 2?
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on February 07, 2013, 09:30:51 AM
I want it but still going through samurai warriors 2
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on February 07, 2013, 10:42:24 AM
DW8 is going to have a new feature that will allow you to play as the opposing forces against Shu/Wu/Wei/etc.  Crazy!

Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on February 07, 2013, 10:44:08 AM
Opposing forces? You mean like the Yuans or Yellow Turbans?
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on February 07, 2013, 10:44:34 AM
Hey Himuro, did you hear that Law & Smoker are playable in OP Musou 2?

Man, I have no idea who any of these One Piece characters are.   :(  I want to read the manga but it just seems so overwhelming now.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on February 07, 2013, 10:44:58 AM
Opposing forces? You mean like the Yuans or Yellow Turbans?

Seems to be, yeah.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: hampster on February 07, 2013, 11:32:01 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2e3AXMFtpxU

The best Luigi's Mansion conversation you'll hear all week :rofl
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on February 08, 2013, 12:04:15 AM
Oh great. A giant bomb quick look of a Musou game.

I think I'll click.

Wait, I think i'll save myself the hassle and blood pressure spike.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Trent Dole on February 08, 2013, 01:18:54 AM
Dude, all of the North American press is wrong about musou games. Seriously. Practically all the positive Metacritic scores the series gets are from Euroland. The video is useful to see some gameplay footage and that's about it. I'd honestly rather see/hear them prattle on about other shit instead of further showing off their utter ignorance of the series and its mechanics. For a 360 only peep like myself it's been a while since a musou game's been out there. What was our last one, Orochi 3? I'm kind of fiending for a new fix but this ...eh looks like something I'd grab for $20 but that's about it.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on February 08, 2013, 06:35:21 AM
Going to download the Wii U version this weekend.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on February 08, 2013, 10:36:57 AM
Oh great. A giant bomb quick look of a Musou game.

I think I'll click.

Wait, I think i'll save myself the hassle and blood pressure spike.

I didn't watch all of it, but they seemed to be looking at it fairly-enough.  I agree with them that there are things the original game does better (the original game was developed by Omega Force, Ken's Rage 2 is not), but I don't agree that people who like Musou and don't know/care about FoTNS wouldn't like it.  The game's story mode is straight-forward and linear (which makes sense), but the extra scenario modes are more typical Musou style.  The original was like this too.  They also complain about seeing the same enemy over and over...uh...welcome to Musou?   :lol  It depends on the stage for who you fight.  Of course the beginning just has the same dumb punk-types...it's supposed to be that way. 
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Bebpo on February 08, 2013, 12:14:18 PM
Who was this developed by?
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on February 08, 2013, 01:20:16 PM
I'm kind of fiending for a new fix but this ...eh looks like something I'd grab for $20 but that's about it.

FUCK NO

May have to buy Ken's Rage 2  :o

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tAiXBqPUc0A
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on February 08, 2013, 03:48:56 PM
Who was this developed by?

I'm not sure.  I've seen some people say it was the same team who made One Piece Kaizoku Musou.  With the added dash mechanic, I can certainly see that.

I also don't get the complaints about the lack of enemies in the original- it's like people only played the story modes and never touched the other, more traditional Musou-style mode that does have more enemies and stuff going on during game play. 
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Sho Nuff on February 08, 2013, 08:07:48 PM
I love the Quick Look for Ken's Rage 2. They just start talking about Luigi's Mansion, Fucks Given: 0
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Bebpo on February 08, 2013, 08:58:33 PM
Omega Force didn't make One Piece?

Uhh, suddenly this makes sense.  Fuck, I hope they are making OPM 2.  I don't think I want to play non-Omega Force musou games...
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: mjemirzian on February 09, 2013, 02:13:03 AM
Played a little of Ken's Rage 2 on 360. Seems about the same as the first game. I think they should have hard capped the frame rate at 30. The load times are pretty atrocious. Almost a minute to load a mission even w/ HD install, and 15-20 secs to load a still frame cutscene. Is it any better on PS3? I don't own a Weeoo so that's out.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on February 09, 2013, 02:32:35 AM
Omega Force didn't make One Piece?

Uhh, suddenly this makes sense.  Fuck, I hope they are making OPM 2.  I don't think I want to play non-Omega Force musou games...

I checked the PS3 cases I have.  Don't have time to put the discs in...One Piece and BOTH Hokuto games do NOT have the "Produced By Omega Force" logos on them like Sengoku Musou 3Z and both Orochi games do.

Hmm...

Regardless, to me Hokuto 1 and 2 feel different enough that someone saying two different teams made both games makes sense.  Hokuto 2 feels like an improved version of One Piece.

And frankly, I think Dynasty Warriors 8 is going to destroy them all.  So tempted to import but will wait.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on March 06, 2013, 03:07:15 PM
So Senran Kagura Shinovi Versus may be the most-perverted game I've ever played, but damn if it isn't also a GOOD musou-style game.  I would describe it as a fusion of Sengoku Basara Battle Heroes with Samurai Warriors 3- the main point of battles is your chosen character battling against another main character, but there's also squads of grunts on the field assisting the enemy character.  The amount of characters on screen is much fewer in number than a typical musou, but this really isn't a problem since new enemy squads spawn the instant another squad is taken out.

The game has typical musou-style controls: two attacks, a jump button, block, a musou button, and a dash button, which allows you to do fast "ninja runs," dash through incoming attacks, or use it to extend combo chains both on the ground and in the air.  Before you can do super attacks, you have to first power-up your character by pressing the musou button.  Doing this will also refill your life bar (the same goes for your opponent), and also gives you a (perverted, of course!) "magical transformation" scene.  You can then use the musou button with square, triangle, or circle to do one of three different super moves of varying damage.  The third level super has to be unlocked.  There's also an additional power-up mode where you hold R and use your fingers on the touch screen to rip-off your clothes and get a strength boost, but I haven't been able to do this and am assuming it needs to be unlocked as well. 

The game's skill trees are also done musou style.  It doesn't appear that weapons can be powered-up or that there are different weapons/armor/items available.

And yeah, again, it's perverted at hell.  Totally  :nsfw all the way.  Damage an enemy enough (or get damaged) and you get a close up shot of the chest and/or rear area clothing getting ripped off until nothing is left but underwear.  Get strong enough and when you defeat another main character, you will knock all of her clothes clean off...the game censors boobs with little angry faces.  You can also, thankfully, choose to skip these in-game cut scenes, including the transformation scenes, completely by pressing X or O, because the novelty of seeing this happen over and over again gets old quick.  You can also unlock and buy various clothing articles and parts to customize characters with.  Similar to Soul Calibur V, you can put parts pretty much anywhere...and you can already imagine what people have come up with.   :lol

This game includes an online pass, so online play and DLC are only available on Japanese PSN accounts.  You can play multiplayer locally or against the CPU if you want the trophies, so there's really not much reason to bother unless you want the DLC (outfits and two additional characters).

I'd recommend importing Senran Kagura if you like or can stand the absurd, ridiculous amount of ecchi that is all over this game.  It's doubtful this will ever be localized unless they censor the hell out of it.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on March 06, 2013, 03:14:57 PM
lack of pics and videos  :punch


edit: love musou but this...is insulting. I couldn't support this.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on March 06, 2013, 03:19:04 PM
lack of pics and videos  :punch

Yeah, for a good reason!   :lol

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edit: love musou but this...is insulting. I couldn't support this.

You can create the musou dickgirl of your dreams, himu!  :hyper
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on March 06, 2013, 03:35:03 PM
One Piece Kaizoku Musou 2 is getting a playable demo on PS3 soon!

Meanwhile, Bandai/Namco has yet to show footage of the Vita port.  Bad sign?
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on March 06, 2013, 03:42:05 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pYg-AqbRo7k
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on March 25, 2013, 02:38:14 PM
One Piece Kaizoku Musou 2 is some legit Omega Force musou!  Good shit.  It may be the same old formula, but it works way better than what they did in the first game.
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Post by: MoxManiac on April 03, 2013, 06:32:16 PM
http://dynastywarriors8.eu/uk/#home

:bow :bow

From koei warriors:

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We are very pleased to report that Dynasty Warriors 8 is making its way to the West. It is due to be released on both the 360 and PS3 on the 12th of July in Europe and the 16th of July in North America. Additional details revealed by Tecmo KOEI Community Manager, Chin Soon Sun, in an interview on the GAMRs Podcast include that the game will have both English and Japanese voice others and will be released as a physical copy in all territories.
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Post by: Trent Dole on April 03, 2013, 08:46:39 PM
Ah, good to have a proper release date for the west finally. :hyper
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on April 03, 2013, 11:46:14 PM
FUCKIN' FINALLY!

Capcom announced Sengoku Basara 4 for PS3, too!
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on April 03, 2013, 11:48:06 PM
Ps3 version please. For now I'm on Sony exclusivo for Musou. Tired of missing out on shit.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Trent Dole on April 03, 2013, 11:53:03 PM
FUCKIN' FINALLY!

Capcom announced Sengoku Basara 4 for PS3, too!
For the west? I thought the one they put out here on Wii/PS3 sold so well that they're not going to bother bringing any over so I'm guessing you mean a JP release. :gloomy
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on April 03, 2013, 11:53:45 PM
Same here, even if it means importing a disc version. 

I again must recommend One Piece Kaizoku Musou 2 to everyone.  Try the demo on JPSN!
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on April 03, 2013, 11:54:50 PM
FUCKIN' FINALLY!

Capcom announced Sengoku Basara 4 for PS3, too!
For the west? I thought the one they put out here on Wii/PS3 sold so well that they're not going to bother bringing any over so I'm guessing you mean a JP release. :gloomy

Japan, yeah.  I didn't even bother with the lone English release SB (not counting Devil Kings) got...I imported SB3 and then imported SB3 Utage.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Bebpo on April 04, 2013, 12:21:44 AM
Same here, even if it means importing a disc version. 

I again must recommend One Piece Kaizoku Musou 2 to everyone.  Try the demo on JPSN!

I'll get it fo' sure when I get some time to game again and catch up on some stuff.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: mjemirzian on April 04, 2013, 09:47:29 AM
I was thinking Fist of the Northstar 2 was a bit too easy with Kenshiro mowing down dumb exploding grunts (this is early in the game), so I tried setting it to the hardest mode (Chaos I think?). I died almost immediately to a hail of chucked spears and molotovs, not to mention the grunt kicks take off 1/3 life. Oops?
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Post by: Van Cruncheon on April 04, 2013, 10:25:47 AM
is one piece musou 2 coming here?
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Mr. Gundam on April 04, 2013, 11:24:41 AM
is one piece musou 2 coming here?

Yep. Digital release like the first one.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on April 04, 2013, 11:26:49 AM
is one piece musou 2 coming here?

Yep. Digital release like the first one.

Only the PS3 version is coming here.  Vita is Japanese-only...not even Europe is getting it.

I was thinking Fist of the Northstar 2 was a bit too easy with Kenshiro mowing down dumb exploding grunts (this is early in the game), so I tried setting it to the hardest mode (Chaos I think?). I died almost immediately to a hail of chucked spears and molotovs, not to mention the grunt kicks take off 1/3 life. Oops?

Typically people wait to level up characters a bunch before trying chaos difficulty.  But yeah, if you want a challenge...crank that difficulty up!   :lol
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on May 09, 2013, 10:18:51 AM
Got One Piece Kaizoku Musou 2 for PS3 this morning. P-A had the Asian/Japanese version on sale and were giving away 25% off coupons, so even though I already have the Vita version, I decided to get this. It will make using the DLC easier (no account switching needed!) and the game offers cross-save functions.

(http://i.imgur.com/yHIXnQB.jpg)

Haven't put that much time into the game since I've been working on other stuff first (Senran Kagura is boobtastically-awesome musou), but OP2 is damn good.
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Post by: Bebpo on May 14, 2013, 12:05:05 PM
OPM2 Japanese version is on sale at P-A for $45 today.  Looks like more gomu gomu punch in my future.

http://www.play-asia.com/One_Piece_Kaizoku_Musou_2_Japanese_Version/paOS-13-71-bp-49-en-70-5waj.html
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Post by: bork on May 14, 2013, 12:42:04 PM
OPM2 Japanese version is on sale at P-A for $45 today.  Looks like more gomu gomu punch in my future.

http://www.play-asia.com/One_Piece_Kaizoku_Musou_2_Japanese_Version/paOS-13-71-bp-49-en-70-5waj.html

Nice!  Guess it wouldn't have mattered if I wanted, since I used a 25% off coupon before.  Both would be around $60 with Fedex shipping.

I think the PS3 version has more framerate issues than the Vita version, however.  Be prepared for some pretty bad spots on some levels.  Other than that, the game is top-notch.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Bebpo on May 18, 2013, 03:55:29 AM
Yeah, played a bit of OPM2 and it's fun!  Feels like a real musou game.  Lots of character, collectibles, moves, big battlefields, 1000+ kills easy, grinding grinding grinding.  Didn't play much of the first because it wasn't too good, but can see myself enjoying this one.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on June 18, 2013, 11:55:22 PM
Warriors Orochi 3 Ultimate (following WO3, WO3 Special on PSP, and WO3 Hyper on Wii U) has been announced for PS3 and Vita.  They may be milking the hell out of this game, but I will definitely pick this up.  No word on whether or not it's going to come out in English.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on June 18, 2013, 11:56:01 PM
What the fuck is in WO3U :wtf
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on June 18, 2013, 11:57:32 PM
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Update: In addition to Tamomo-no-Mae, Warriors Orochi 3 Ultimate will be getting the expert swordsman Xu Shu from the Dynasty Warriors series. Warriors Orochi 3 Ultimate will also have a brand new story. Additionally, the game will be adding new elements that were seen in the PSP and Wii U versions, both of which were released a good while after the original PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360 version.

It's more than just a straight port...nice!  So that's two more characters in addition to the ones that were added in Special and Hyper.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on June 19, 2013, 12:10:20 AM
guan xing :o :o :o

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OWIZ8kTvBfY
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Trent Dole on June 19, 2013, 12:47:13 AM
I don't really have anything to say about DW8 besides 'Shut up and take my money' along with noting that I am sad cause it is not out and I can't play it yet. :(
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on June 19, 2013, 12:49:14 AM
trent i'm getting dw8 on ps3. how bout u
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Trent Dole on June 19, 2013, 02:10:16 AM
I tragically do not have a PS3 just yet so for musou time there's no power greater than X here.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on June 19, 2013, 11:46:13 AM
8 looks so much better and more fun than 6 and 7 combined were.  First Dynasty Warriors game I've been pumped to play in a long time.  It feels like it's taking forever for it come out.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on July 05, 2013, 09:08:10 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqPM2vpPwTM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96cpxxIcGEI
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Trent Dole on July 05, 2013, 11:22:51 PM
10 DAYS MOTHERFUCKERS :hyper :hyper :hyper
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: mjemirzian on July 06, 2013, 09:34:26 AM
Never played Dynasty Warriors, what's making 8 so much better than the others?

The only musou game I've played was Fist of the North Star which was mildly entertaining, but really repetitive.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on July 06, 2013, 11:23:11 AM
Bringing back features and stuff they dropped on the next Gen shift.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on July 06, 2013, 04:34:45 PM
8 is packed with characters, modes and features.  It's gonna be the ultimate musou game.

Hype!
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: MoxManiac on July 06, 2013, 05:26:55 PM
musouuuuuu
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on July 06, 2013, 07:24:57 PM
8 is packed with characters, modes and features.  It's gonna be the ultimate musou game.

Hype!

That isn't WO3 :p
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Trent Dole on July 06, 2013, 07:32:42 PM
Ha, I was gonna say, is it even possible to be more kitchen sink than WO3? There's a even more ultimate version of that on the way to the PS3 in Japaland.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on July 07, 2013, 11:42:13 AM
From what I've read, DW8 has stuff other musou games have never even had before, like being able to play maps from the enemy side's perspective and a faster/smoother battle system, so yeah, I'm sticking with that claim.  I've actually never been hyped for a Dynasty Warriors game before and usually enjoy all the other musou games more.  This one is different.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on July 07, 2013, 12:20:21 PM
:obama can't wait
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on July 09, 2013, 12:34:49 PM
Kasumi from Dead Or Alive is gonna be in MO3 Ultimate. 

Why don't they just make a DOA Musou game?   :P

Anyway, here's the stolen GAF "OT" for DW8:
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[INDENT]Developer: Omega Force
Publisher: Koei Tecmo
Platforms: PS3 (All regions) / PSN (All regions) / X360 (NA, EU, AU only)
Release Date:
JP: 02/28/2013
NA: 07/16/2013
EU: 07/19/2013
AU: 07/25/2013
MSRP: $59.99/ £39.99
Audio: Dual Audio (JPN voices on a free DLC)
Website: JP (http://"http://www.gamecity.ne.jp/smusou7/") NA (http://"www.tecmokoeiamerica.com/dw8/") EU (http://"http://dynastywarriors8.eu/au/#home/")
Pre-Order Bonuses:
UK Only: GAME - A Random Phone Pouch (http://"http://i.imgur.com/Gt2JkMD.jpg")
EU: Almost every other store: DW1 Outifts (http://"http://i.imgur.com/XYvFt1X.jpg"), Sun Shangxiang's ROTK12 outfit (http://"http://i.imgur.com/j6zYkuL.jpg") and Zhao Yun's ROTK12 outfit (http://"http://i.imgur.com/0iZRHks.jpg")
NA: Gamestop - Sun Shangxiang's ROTK12 outfit (http://"http://i.imgur.com/j6zYkuL.jpg"), Zhao Yun's ROTK12 outfit (http://"http://i.imgur.com/0iZRHks.jpg"), Guan Yu's DW1 outfit (http://"http://i.imgur.com/DoA98wD.jpg") and Lu Xun's DW1 outfit (http://"http://i.imgur.com/VzNFm5B.jpg")

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Story Mode
  • Retains the Kingdom mode from DW7
  • Reintroduces "Others" Kingdom mode
  • More characters to choose per stage
  • Hypothetical stages - allows you to alter events, save characters and go to different routes
Free Mode
  • Returns from DW6, allowing you to use whatever character you want in whichever stage
  • Reintroduces the ability to play as the opposing sides in stages
Ambition Mode
  • Updated version of Legends mode from DW7XL
  • Create your own tower, raise its status through battles, gain new weapons, characters and more!
Gameplay Additions
  • New weapon affinity system. Every weapon has its own affinity and you'll be at an advantage or disadvantage depending on the enemy's weapon affinity.
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  • Storm Rush: When at advantage, delpete the blue bar above the enemy and you'll be able to rush in and perform a multi-hit attack.
  • Switch Counter: When at a disadvantage, press the switch attack when the enemy is using a charged attack and you'll be able to evade, counter, switch your weapon and gain a temporary power up.
  • Rage Awakening: Fill up the Awakening Gague and you can go into Rage mode, where your stats will raise and you can use the Awakening Musou which is similar to the old style of Musous pre-DW7.
  • Every character now has three musou attacks, two ground and one air.
  • Leveling returns to this game. Gain new moves and stats from defeating enemies, picking up exp scrolls or buying levels.
  • The introduction of the skills system from the Warriors Orochi games. Do certain things during battle to learn new and level up new skills.
  • The introduction of weapon skills and the weapon crafting system from the Warriors Orochi games.
  • The delconement of every character. Everyone has their own EX weapons now, many of them having returning weapons from old games while others have new weapons. Existing weapons from DW7 also got changed.

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Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on July 09, 2013, 12:36:43 PM
And man, this game's graphics are so clean!  Are these really screenshots or Team Ninja-style bullshots?

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Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on July 09, 2013, 12:39:50 PM
I know! Those character models are so good! Zhu Rong's design :gladbron

Hopefully she's in the story.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Trent Dole on July 09, 2013, 02:29:10 PM
Wow, there really is a lot going on with this iteration of the series. Should I even mention that all the links in your stolen OP are broken since I know you're just going to :yeshrug in response? Looks like I just did.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on July 09, 2013, 03:13:31 PM
Wow, there really is a lot going on with this iteration of the series. Should I even mention that all the links in your stolen OP are broken since I know you're just going to :yeshrug in response? Looks like I just did.

 :yeshrug :yeshrug :yeshrug :yeshrug :yeshrug :yeshrug :yeshrug :yeshrug :yeshrug :yeshrug

:umad

The Youtube trailers work.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on July 11, 2013, 07:40:32 AM
Here's a review. And it is awesome.

http://wonderpierrot.blogspot.com/2013/07/dynasty-warriors-8-review.html?m=1
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on July 12, 2013, 12:47:46 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wcXCniIt83o

BENEVOLENCE!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: magus on July 12, 2013, 01:00:43 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wcXCniIt83o

BENEVOLENCE!!!!!!!

is there an alternative scenario where you hit liu bei so hard he ends up on the moon or something?
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on July 12, 2013, 01:03:05 PM
There's an alternative scenario that's what if Caocao won Chibi. May be a what if scenario of Liu Bei being killed by his men. I hope so at least. Well, maybe not. Jiang wei is way worst than Liu Bei.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on July 12, 2013, 01:05:25 PM
Wonder Pierrot's DW8 combo compilation

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=907GQJUxHSU
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on July 14, 2013, 12:14:06 AM
Seeing reports that the 360 version has some pretty bad framerate problems and gets downright choppy.  The PS3 version does not have these issues.

Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: magus on July 14, 2013, 09:23:36 AM
i got this,i played trough the tutorial 4 times for the achievement (ugh,who the heck tought this was a good idea?) and proceeded to start the wei campaign,i got to mission 2 then lu bu appearead from somewhere and i died >:(
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Trent Dole on July 14, 2013, 01:12:56 PM
Seeing reports that the 360 version has some pretty bad framerate problems and gets downright choppy.  The PS3 version does not have these issues.
Well as someone who only has a 360 at the moment that kind of sucks a lot.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: pancakesandsex on July 15, 2013, 10:23:45 AM
Does anyone know if the strategy layer makes a return in this one?  I felt it was largely missing from 7.  5 was the last one where I felt I had real control over the outcome of the stages and who lived or died in story mode.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on July 15, 2013, 10:37:24 AM
Well, the game does have a bar for enemy/ally morale. Not sure how deep the rabbit hole goes though.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: magus on July 15, 2013, 10:43:07 AM
Well, the game does have a bar for enemy/ally morale. Not sure how deep the rabbit hole goes though.

frankly it feels like it doesn't make much of a difference but i'm playing on normal so....
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on July 15, 2013, 10:44:43 AM
It should, whether it's on normal or whatever. In Samurai Warriors games and the Gundam games, morale means everything.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: pancakesandsex on July 15, 2013, 10:45:36 AM
IIRC so does 7.

I'm talking about not being locked out of entire sections of the map because "story", having full control of the battlefield from the beginning.  Being able to alter the flow of the stage by fulfilling certain sub objectives, or not fulfilling them.  Like maybe my fire attack at chi bi fails or something.  All that was possible in 5 and 6.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on July 15, 2013, 10:49:01 AM
7 doesn't have a morale bar. It has morale but it's under the hood and is inconsequential to the gameplay.

And yeah, 7 was really poor at that. 7 in general has really bad replay value.

TBH everything you're describing sounds like Samurai Warriors and not Dynasty Warriors (at least in its modern incarnation) Pancakes. Everything you listed is why I prefer SW.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on July 15, 2013, 11:22:26 AM
GUYS

FUCK YES

FUCK YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

http://youtu.be/d5wakhCbFeM

anyone know if koei fixed this?!?!?!?!? PLEASE TELL ME THEY DIDN'T.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: pancakesandsex on July 15, 2013, 11:24:58 AM
Samurai Warriors has the "pop up events", but that's different from what I'm talking about.

Back to the chi bi example.  The fire attack in 5 and 6 would fail if you let Huang Gai die, so it was to your advantage not to let him.  But in 7, they game puts you in control of Huang gai for that segment and you have no choice but to win in that one particular way.  Playing from the other side, your job was to kill him, preventing the attack, but there was no "play from the other side" in 7.  That scenario was just not possible, Wei got different stages.

The removal of this aspect made the game a lot more Sengoku Basara and a lot less Dynasty Warriors.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on July 15, 2013, 11:26:13 AM
Well, in 8, you can choose between characters. You aren't railroaded like in 7.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: pancakesandsex on July 15, 2013, 11:33:16 AM
Listen Himumu, Can Huang Gai die or not?  THIS IS IMPORTANT.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on July 15, 2013, 11:34:25 AM
I DON'T KNOW. I HAVEN'T PLAYED IT! :lol
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: pancakesandsex on July 15, 2013, 11:40:16 AM
WHAT GOOD ARE YOU!?

::pout::
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on July 15, 2013, 01:09:26 PM
Tomorrow :hyper
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on July 16, 2013, 09:23:56 AM
Even some journos are loving this game- 9/10 from Jim Sterling at Destructoid!   :o

http://www.destructoid.com/review-dynasty-warriors-8-258103.phtml
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UvDF-Hf-G18
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on July 16, 2013, 09:58:41 AM
AHAHAHAHAHAHA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFew25NwTqk

Good news Pancakes, this is SSX at Chibi. Seems you have to help Huang Gai set the ships on fire.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on July 16, 2013, 10:32:58 AM
Multiple musous!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qjLkpQIVTDU
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on July 16, 2013, 12:47:03 PM
UPS WHERE ARE YOUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: magus on July 16, 2013, 12:54:48 PM
AHAHAHAHAHAHA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFew25NwTqk

Good news Pancakes, this is SSX at Chibi. Seems you have to help Huang Gai set the ships on fire.

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i got to the battle where dian wei ends up dead and you recruit whathisname (the strategist guy with the sickle) and you have to rescue 2 guys,i failed to rescue them and it unlocked the battle where you flood lu bu castle,so i assume the battle of chibi has a similiar thing regarding it,i have other stage that apparently hold more unlockable stuff but the game doesn't tell you what to do so i didn't bother
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Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Trent Dole on July 16, 2013, 01:44:45 PM
AHAHAHAHAHAHA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFew25NwTqk

Good news Pancakes, this is SSX at Chibi. Seems you have to help Huang Gai set the ships on fire.
Oh wow, I dunno if I wanna pick this up now. :gloomy
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on July 16, 2013, 01:49:15 PM
Trent, get it. They'll patch it.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Trent Dole on July 16, 2013, 09:17:38 PM
Yeah I did. There was a 464kb thing to snag before starting but I don't think it was any fix or anything significant. There's definitely some death of the frame rate here and there and it is noticeable and bothersome but I've yet to experience anything as bad as what's shown in that video.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: magus on July 17, 2013, 06:55:54 AM
atelier character in warrior orochi 3 :lol

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Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on July 17, 2013, 08:40:02 AM
ATELIER MUSOU INCOMING!   :o

 :lol

Dynasty Warriors 8: FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK this game is some good shit. They really ramped up the style/animations and made everyone flashier and more fun to use. The engine is built on what was used in DW7, but the game plays so much more smoothly and there's tons and tons of enemies on screen coming at you now. I also like that there's way more enemy officers/generals coming at you instead of too many generic grunts. Level design is better too.

I can see why people say this is the best Dynasty Warriors since DW3. They nailed it with this one.  The only real complaint I have is that the framerate could be better, but it's more consistent compared to DW7.

Started playing as Liu Bei in story mode.  He's OK, but I prefer Zhao Yun when he's available for use.  The spear attack animations are sick now.  Lots of attention to detail; love the way it bends.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: archnemesis on July 17, 2013, 08:44:15 AM
I would probably buy an Atelier Musou and the only similar games I've ever enjoyed were Bladestorm: The Hundred Years' War and Kessen II. Then again I've mostly played demos and I imagine RPG mechanics are a lot more fun in the full versions.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: pancakesandsex on July 17, 2013, 09:33:05 AM
I got my copy yesterday but I'll be busy with FFXI stuff till later in the week.  SOMEONE TELL ME ABOUT STRATEGY IN STORY MODE STAGES.

@ video of SSX: Doesn't tell me if I can let the fire attack fail or not!
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on July 17, 2013, 09:46:08 AM
SOMEONE TELL ME ABOUT STRATEGY IN STORY MODE STAGES.

1. Beat the shit out of dudes
2. Beat the shit out of generals
3. Run away from Lu Bu
4. Run to a spot on the map when notified
5. Repeat

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The real strategy is trying to figure out what needs to be done to have certain allies survive battles.  Too early for me to tell what to do yet!
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Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on July 17, 2013, 12:05:01 PM
Koei DON'T STOP:

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Koei Tecmo announced that Sengoku Musou 2 with Moushouden & Empires HD Version [Samurai Warriors 2, with Xtreme Legends & Empires HD Version] will be coming to PS3 and PS Vita on Oct 24. The game is a HD Remaster of Sengoku Musou 2, Sengoku Musou 2 Moushouden and Sengoku Mosou 2 Empires. The three HD remakes will be available in several formats:

PS3 - Sengoku Musou 2 with Moushouden & Empires HD Version Three Game Pack - 5040 yen
PS3 - Sengoku Musou 2 with Moushouden & Empires HD Version Premium Box - 8190 yen
PS3 - Sengoku Musou 2 with Moushouden & Empires HD Version Download Version - 4500 yen
PS3 - Sengoku Musou 2 with Moushouden HD Version Download Version - 3000 yen
PS3 - Sengoku Musou 2 with Empires HD Version Download Version - 2700 yen
PS Vita - Sengoku Musou 2 with Moushouden HD Version Download Version - 3000 yen
PS Vita - Sengoku Musou 2 with Empires HD Version Download Version - 2700 yen
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on July 18, 2013, 09:17:29 AM
Getting close to finishing up Liu Bei and crew's campaign.  Sat down to play this again for a bit last night and 3 hours just flew by. 

There is a new character (actually from DW7 Empires), Xu Shu, with a hood that reminds me so much of an assassin from Assassin's Creed for some reason, lol.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzHRI4KvjmE

The feel of shear bad-assery in this game is just off the charts.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: pancakesandsex on July 18, 2013, 09:24:15 AM
Lol.  Don't ever run from Lu Bu.  Kill his wife and then kill him.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on July 18, 2013, 09:44:16 AM
Lol.  Don't ever run from Lu Bu.  Kill his wife and then kill him.

Fuck that shit, Lu Bu is one scary bitch again.  Imma run if I have the chance, lol.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: mjemirzian on July 18, 2013, 10:05:57 AM
I've never played a Dynasty Warriors game before, always avoided the series because it looks like you mow down grunts all day. Should I try this one?
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on July 18, 2013, 10:13:46 AM
How is the stage design in this game? Is it passive like DW7 or active like WO3, SW2, DW5?
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: magus on July 18, 2013, 11:04:51 AM
How is the stage design in this game? Is it passive like DW7 or active like WO3, SW2, DW5?

game gives you objective,if you fail to do them usualy some asshole tries to infiltrate your base and you have to intercept him and of course certain stage holds bonus stage if you do stuff that the game won't tell you

bork are you playing on normal? i'm playing on normal and i regret it because it's beyond easy,the affinity system makes it even more easier because as you carry 2 weapon around there's no reason to ever be at disadvantage so it either favors you and gives you tons of free extra damage or it does nothing
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on July 18, 2013, 11:17:08 AM
bork are you playing on normal? i'm playing on normal and i regret it because it's beyond easy,the affinity system makes it even more easier because as you carry 2 weapon around there's no reason to ever be at disadvantage so it either favors you and gives you tons of free extra damage or it does nothing

I am playing Shu on normal right now.  Might switch to a harder difficulty with the other factions or may play all the story modes on normal and then go through the other modes on the harder and above settings.  My goal right now is just to unlock characters and then start leveling my favorites up, and that's when I'll definitely want to switch to the harder difficulty modes.  I find most musou games a bit too easy on normal in general.

I've never played a Dynasty Warriors game before, always avoided the series because it looks like you mow down grunts all day. Should I try this one?

Well, you DO mow down grunts all day -it's a beat em up game- but this is best DW in years, easily, and you can definitely have a challenge if you crank the difficulty up.  Things also get harder when you have to stop an event from happening or if you need to meet certain conditions to unlock characters or change the outcome of a level.  There are stages where something might fail to happen or someone is defeated on your faction, but the game will allow you to keep going.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on July 18, 2013, 11:57:10 AM
What makes Warriors games challenging on normal modes for me are accomplishing the objectives. It should be tough accomplishing every goal and side goal on a map. The game should also have you continuously doing something new in terms of objectives. What I love about Samurai Warriors is how you'll often get like 3 or side objectives in one map. Fuck up? Oh well, restart map.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on July 18, 2013, 12:10:19 PM
What makes Warriors games challenging on normal modes for me are accomplishing the objectives. It should be tough accomplishing every goal and side goal on a map. The game should also have you continuously doing something new in terms of objectives. What I love about Samurai Warriors is how you'll often get like 3 or side objectives in one map. Fuck up? Oh well, restart map.

There really isn't much in the way of side goals in the story mode from what I've played.  It's pretty straight-forward, BUT doesn't feel as linear as DW7 did in the sense that you can go around the map and take out enemy areas that the game doesn't mention or keep on going if some main objectives have failed.  However if you do complete all the objectives, in a level, you get the Hypothetical option for the stage in Free Mode- A "What If" scenario that deviates from the historical storyline and changes up who appears in the stage, dialogue, and objectives.

And don't forget that there is another mode entirely with different objectives, Ambition Mode:

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A new game mode, called the "Ambition Mode", has been introduced.[15] In it, the player is tasked to create a social base for peasants called the "Tongquetai Tower" and to make Emperor Xian visit it. To raise the tower's status, the player must partake in three different kind of battles; Skirmish battles which give materials to construct the tower, Raid battles which increase fame, and Large-scale battles which can recruit new partners. Players start out with the weapon shop as their sole base facility. More can be added or expanded upon as the town gradually becomes populated with people. These include a food market, a trade shop, a menagerie, etc..

So there's a lot of stuff to do!
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on July 18, 2013, 12:12:20 PM
OK, checking into this more, the hypothetical scenarios actually ARE in the main storyline, so you can actually go in a completely different direction from what is initially intended and play a different set of levels instead!   :o

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'Hypothetical' is a what-if stage that can be unlocked by completing certain conditions in Story Mode. For example..

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The Wei 'hypothetical' stage is Chibi. If you've completed all the optional conditions in the stages before Chibi, then Guo Jia, Dian Wei and Xu Shu will be present for the Wei side in the battle. This will allow you to foil Wu's fire attack and actually defeat them rather than fleeing. If you complete that stage, you unlock extra stages that continue along Wei's path to conquest rather than the historical status quo ending.
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In Free Mode, you get the choice of doing the 'normal' or 'hypothetical' version of the stage. That's what the option is for. Of course, if you haven't unlocked the 'hypothetical' version, the option doesn't yet do anything for you!
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: magus on July 18, 2013, 12:20:19 PM
i posted this in a spoiler so probably nobody readed that but i failed an objective on the mission where you recruit jia xu and somehow it actualy unlocked an extra stage (the canon battle where you go kill lu bu) you can see which stage have special condition by selecting them with the "free stage" option but the game doesn't tell you what you need to do,i was hoping the game would spill it's secret after finishing the campaign

Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on July 18, 2013, 12:34:45 PM
There's a hypothetical stage guide already up on the Koeiwarriors forums. (http://s13.zetaboards.com/koeiwarriors/topic/7080371/1/)

That was fast!   :lol

And there's your alternate objectives!
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: magus on July 18, 2013, 04:41:04 PM
i finished wei story mode,the game does indeed tells you all of the alternate objective after finishing

the story mode of this game sucks,DW7 got me because it was my first time playing a romace of the three kingdom game and i tought the story was really well done,in this game you don't even get to see cao cao death... the story mode ends after
spoiler (click to show/hide)
the battle where guan yu die's
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and then you just get to see him spout some non-sense about the future >:(
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on July 18, 2013, 06:11:05 PM
Koei DON'T STOP:

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Koei Tecmo announced that Sengoku Musou 2 with Moushouden & Empires HD Version [Samurai Warriors 2, with Xtreme Legends & Empires HD Version] will be coming to PS3 and PS Vita on Oct 24. The game is a HD Remaster of Sengoku Musou 2, Sengoku Musou 2 Moushouden and Sengoku Mosou 2 Empires. The three HD remakes will be available in several formats:

PS3 - Sengoku Musou 2 with Moushouden & Empires HD Version Three Game Pack - 5040 yen
PS3 - Sengoku Musou 2 with Moushouden & Empires HD Version Premium Box - 8190 yen
PS3 - Sengoku Musou 2 with Moushouden & Empires HD Version Download Version - 4500 yen
PS3 - Sengoku Musou 2 with Moushouden HD Version Download Version - 3000 yen
PS3 - Sengoku Musou 2 with Empires HD Version Download Version - 2700 yen
PS Vita - Sengoku Musou 2 with Moushouden HD Version Download Version - 3000 yen
PS Vita - Sengoku Musou 2 with Empires HD Version Download Version - 2700 yen

One of my favorite Musou games.  How easy is it to download Japanese Vita games onto an American one?
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on July 18, 2013, 06:34:12 PM
SW2 :rejoice
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on July 18, 2013, 07:26:44 PM
i finished wei story mode,the game does indeed tells you all of the alternate objective after finishing

the story mode of this game sucks,DW7 got me because it was my first time playing a romace of the three kingdom game and i tought the story was really well done,in this game you don't even get to see cao cao death... the story mode ends after
spoiler (click to show/hide)
the battle where guan yu die's
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and then you just get to see him spout some non-sense about the future >:(

Do we really need to spoiler tag this game's story?  It's the same one since the original game and a couple...hundred...years before that.   :lol

That's just one part of the story, Magus.  But make sure you play the Jin faction last.   ;)

One of my favorite Musou games.  How easy is it to download Japanese Vita games onto an American one?

You will need:

1. A Japanese PSN account.  Easy enough to make and 100000 walkthroughs out there if you don't read Japanese and/or have an address to use.
2. Another memory card specifically for this account.
3. Funds.  Your credit card won't work.  You'll need to buy PSN cards to charge your PSN wallet.  You can get these codes online from plenty of sellers, albeit at marked-up prices.

You then have to remove the memory card with your U.S. account and do a system restore.  Now you can access your Japanese PSN account and go through the set up, then download the game.  This whole process really doesn't take more than a few minutes, but what sucks is that when you switch back to your primary account, repeating the process again, your icon placement gets fucked up and some game icons or content might get randomly deleted.  You won't lose game saves AFAIK but it helps to back everything up.

Basically it's just annoying enough to do that I don't generally bother doing it.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: magus on July 18, 2013, 08:44:07 PM
it was more to not spoil how long is the wei campaign

and i know that's one part of the story bork,i played DW7 (even 1000/1000) but really compare

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZirRYCglclo

(http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/4409/icwg.jpg)

DW8 ending

spoiler (click to show/hide)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=13qkvyDiusI

blablablablabla :derp
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the first make me think that romance of three kingdom would make a really kickass jrpg and the second it's just.... there...
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on July 18, 2013, 09:01:07 PM
Dw7's story has different goals I think. It is about Jin's rise to dominance as the old heroes die out, and Jin bring about a new age with new blood that doesn't follow the mistakes of their ancestors. Since jin is no longer new that is no longer necessary. Sounds like Wei's ending ends abruptly like Wu's in 7.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on July 18, 2013, 09:05:17 PM
Also play rotk strategy games Magus.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on July 19, 2013, 01:28:13 PM
There are two endings for each faction now.  Magus got the "bad" ending.  Maybe the "good" endings are that much better.  I don't want to spoil myself!

Almost done with Shu's normal path.  Just four more stages to go.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Trent Dole on July 19, 2013, 02:46:11 PM
Yeah I got the meh ending for Wei last night. Going to play through all four factions first then go back and get their good endings.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on July 19, 2013, 03:55:31 PM
Does anyone know if you can get the objectives completed for the alternate paths in free mode?  Would be nice to be able to use any character...
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on July 31, 2013, 08:10:01 AM
http://gematsu.com/2013/07/soulcaliburs-sophitia-joins-warriors-orochi-3-ultimate

(http://gematsu.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/Sophitia-WO3U.jpg)

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Sterk and Kasumi won’t be the only guest characters in Warriors Orochi 3 Ultimate.

Famitsu this week reveals a collaboration with Namco Bandai to bring Soulcalibur fighter Sophitia Alexandra to the game.

Another new character was also revealed. Wielding a fire-tipped spear, the magazine introduces the Taoist protection deity Nezha.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: pancakesandsex on July 31, 2013, 09:43:29 AM
I miss base and checkpoint capture :/
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: jiji on July 31, 2013, 02:30:35 PM
The framerate in this =  :kobeyuck :holeup :badass :dead

Did Koei just give up on optimizing Musou games?
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on July 31, 2013, 02:41:31 PM
Are you playing it on 360?
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: jiji on July 31, 2013, 02:49:03 PM
PS3. The lady and I got it last night, and it was miserable in both SP and coop.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on July 31, 2013, 02:51:37 PM
Did you install it?

I dunno what to say- haven't played it split-screen but it plays smoothly enough for me.  Don't see anyone else complaining about it on PS3 either. 
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: jiji on July 31, 2013, 02:53:58 PM
Did you install it?

I dunno what to say- haven't played it split-screen but it plays smoothly enough for me.  Don't see anyone else complaining about it on PS3 either.

I didn't, but how would that affect in-level framerates? Even the pre-stage talk-to-guys sequences were choppy as hell. The game looks like Kingdom Under Fire: The Crusaders. This used to be a 60fps series.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on July 31, 2013, 02:56:29 PM


It hasn't been a constant 60 FPS for a while.

Did you install it?

I dunno what to say- haven't played it split-screen but it plays smoothly enough for me.  Don't see anyone else complaining about it on PS3 either.

I didn't, but how would that affect in-level framerates? Even the pre-stage talk-to-guys sequences were choppy as hell. The game looks like Kingdom Under Fire: The Crusaders. This used to be a 60fps series.

 ???
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Van Cruncheon on August 01, 2013, 10:12:48 AM
when's one piece musou 2 out in the states bagin?
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on August 01, 2013, 10:49:16 AM
They keep pushing it back- I see it listed as "Q3 2013" now (digital download only), but the retail Euro versions are listed for late August, so maybe around that time?
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: jiji on August 01, 2013, 11:38:05 AM
I tried the game with an install last night. Not sure if it was my imagination, but it did seem to run slightly better after that. Framerate is still all over the place, though.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on August 21, 2013, 12:51:53 PM
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Dynasty Warriors 8: Xtreme Legends is coming to PlayStation 3 and PS Vita in Japan on November 28, Tecmo Koei revealed in this week’s Famitsu.

On PlayStation 3, the game will cost 5,040 yen at retail and 4,500 yen via digital download. A PlayStation 3 set also including the original Dynasty Warriors 8 will cost 7,560 yen at retail and 6,600 yen via digital download. On PS Vita, the game will cost 7,140 yen at retail and 6,300 yen via digital download.

In addition to new characters Chen Gong and Zhu Ran, the game will offer multiplayer, downloadable content, cross-play, and cross-save support. If Scenarios, an enhanced Commander Mode, new actions, and an online ranking are also present.

Koei going full Musou overload now- Musou Orochi 3 Ultimate in September, Sengoku Musou 2 HD Collection in October, and now Sangoku Musou 7 XL in November.

:dead

Why not release a next-gen version of DW8+XL, with improved graphics and a rock-solid 60 FPS frame rate?
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: MoxManiac on August 21, 2013, 06:31:59 PM
Hard to get excited about games i'll never get to play due to them staying in japan :-\
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Trent Dole on August 21, 2013, 10:10:40 PM
XL came over last time PS3 only. As for the others, yeah, might wanna start brushing up on your hiragana.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on August 21, 2013, 10:52:52 PM
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Dynasty Warriors 8: Xtreme Legends is coming to PlayStation 3 and PS Vita in Japan on November 28, Tecmo Koei revealed in this week’s Famitsu.

On PlayStation 3, the game will cost 5,040 yen at retail and 4,500 yen via digital download. A PlayStation 3 set also including the original Dynasty Warriors 8 will cost 7,560 yen at retail and 6,600 yen via digital download. On PS Vita, the game will cost 7,140 yen at retail and 6,300 yen via digital download.

In addition to new characters Chen Gong and Zhu Ran, the game will offer multiplayer, downloadable content, cross-play, and cross-save support. If Scenarios, an enhanced Commander Mode, new actions, and an online ranking are also present.

Koei going full Musou overload now- Musou Orochi 3 Ultimate in September, Sengoku Musou 2 HD Collection in October, and now Sangoku Musou 7 XL in November.

:dead

Why not release a next-gen version of DW8+XL, with improved graphics and a rock-solid 60 FPS frame rate?

I got Dynasty Warriors 5 Special with my 360.  It was fucking sweet.  We might get a Dynasty Warriors 8 Special.  Given how Koei is pumping out Musou updates likes a motherfucker, I wouldn't put it past them.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on August 22, 2013, 12:46:07 AM
Yeah, Koei milks these games hard, so I think it's almost inevitable that DW8 gets a next-gen port at some point.

Hard to get excited about games i'll never get to play due to them staying in japan :-\

So import them if they don't come out here.  It's not like they're hard to play and guides go up quick.  I'm not waiting on a Musou 3 Ultimate announcement -that is getting imported immediately and I might double-dip on it- but I will wait on DW8 XL and will likely skip SW2 HD anyway. 
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on August 22, 2013, 12:48:35 AM
When the fuck are they showing samurai warriors 4
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on August 22, 2013, 12:11:11 PM
After you buy Samurai Warriors 2 HD, of course!  :smug
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on August 22, 2013, 12:18:34 PM
My favorite non-Orochi Muosou? GLADLY.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on August 22, 2013, 12:19:17 PM
oh and prole, wan pisu musou 2 is coming to psn on september 8
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on September 04, 2013, 01:43:24 PM
One Piece Pirate Warriors 2 should be on PSN now.  9/3 release date,  I thought?

And Koei isn't done!
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Weekly Famitsu revealed that Shin Gundam Musou [New Dynasty Warriors Gundam] is in development for PS3 and PS Vita, the game will be released in Japan on Dec 19, for 7980 yen (PS3) and 6980 yen (Vita). Shin Gundam Musou will return to the realistic style graphics, the Official Mode will return with original story for each character, and there is an Ultimate Mode with an original storyline. The game will have over 100 Mobile Suits, some of the confirmed ones are:

    Mobile Suit Gundam - RX-78-2 Gundam, MS-065 Char’s Zak, MSN-02 Zeong
    Mobile Suit Zeta Gundam - MSZ-006 Z Gundam, AMX-004 Qubeley
    Char's Counterattack - RX-93 v Gundam, MSN-04 Sazabi
    Mobile Suit Gundam 00 - GN-0000 + GNR-010 00 Raiser
    Turn A Gundam - Concept-X 6-1-2 Turn X
    Gundam Unicorn - RX-0 Unicorn Gundam, MSN-065 Sinanju, NZ-666 Kshatriya, RX-0 Banshee
    Gundam Seed - GAT-X105 Strike Gundam, GAT-X303 Aegis Gundam
    Gundam Seed Destiny - ZGMF-X20A Strike Freedom Gundam, ZGMF-X19A Infinite Justice Gundam, ZGMF-X425 Destiny Gundam
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on September 04, 2013, 01:44:45 PM
So that is now:

September: Musou Orochi 3 Ultimate
October: Sengoku Musou 2/XL/Empires HD
November: Sangoku Musou 7 XL
December: Shin Gundam Musou

:dead
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Mr. Gundam on September 04, 2013, 02:18:12 PM
Shin Gundam Musou is the only one that matters. Will preorder as soon as Ami Ami puts it up.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on September 04, 2013, 02:21:31 PM
So that is now:

September: Musou Orochi 3 Ultimate
October: Sengoku Musou 2/XL/Empires HD
November: Sangoku Musou 7 XL
December: Shin Gundam Musou

:dead

:snoop

And Sengoku Musou 4 next year.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Mr. Gundam on September 04, 2013, 02:25:17 PM
So that is now:

September: Musou Orochi 3 Ultimate
October: Sengoku Musou 2/XL/Empires HD
November: Sangoku Musou 7 XL
December: Shin Gundam Musou

:dead

:snoop

And Sengoku Musou 4 next year.

You meant Basara 4, right?

I wonder if Capcom will bother localizing it this late in the PS3's life? We never got Utage, and I'm sure 3 sold terribly over here.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: mjemirzian on September 04, 2013, 02:32:22 PM
Maybe I'll give the series a try on PS4 when it'll prob. be 60 FPS solid.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on September 04, 2013, 02:54:09 PM
So that is now:

September: Musou Orochi 3 Ultimate
October: Sengoku Musou 2/XL/Empires HD
November: Sangoku Musou 7 XL
December: Shin Gundam Musou

:dead

:snoop

And Sengoku Musou 4 next year.

You meant Basara 4, right?

I wonder if Capcom will bother localizing it this late in the PS3's life? We never got Utage, and I'm sure 3 sold terribly over here.

Nope, they have Sengoku 4 in the works, announced it last year or earlier this year and expect a release/reveal Feb 2014.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Mr. Gundam on September 04, 2013, 03:17:50 PM
Sounds like around the same timeframe as the Basara 4 release. I'm guessing March or April.

Cannot wait to buy cheap used games in Japan next April.  :hyper
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Trent Dole on September 04, 2013, 05:24:20 PM
So that is now:

September: Musou Orochi 3 Ultimate
October: Sengoku Musou 2/XL/Empires HD
November: Sangoku Musou 7 XL
December: Shin Gundam Musou

:dead

:snoop

And Sengoku Musou 4 next year.

You meant Basara 4, right?

I wonder if Capcom will bother localizing it this late in the PS3's life? We never got Utage, and I'm sure 3 sold terribly over here.
I'm pretty sure that they've declared no more of the Basara games are going to be localized cause the one they brought over this gen didn't meet whatever lofty expectation they had for it.  :(
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Mr. Gundam on September 04, 2013, 11:59:13 PM
Add another kickass game to my Japan shopping list.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on September 05, 2013, 01:44:09 PM

(http://i.imgur.com/aHTkk70.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/MiCOxvm.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/rGZyfeR.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/UNuMaqA.jpg)

This looks fucking awful. Why did they get rid of Gundam Musou 3's kick ass cel shading?
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Mr. Gundam on September 05, 2013, 02:54:45 PM
Looks good enough to me. Give me Gundams fightin' other Gundams and I'm set.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Bebpo on September 05, 2013, 06:11:12 PM
It's pretty bad when even the initial reveal doesn't have any new assets since the last game.

Gundam Musou 3 had basically every Gundam if you counted the DLC, was only missing AGE and manga and obscure ones.  Really doesn't seem like there's enough to make a #4, hence why this is "Shin".  Probably a cash grab since the franchise is basically over.  Will skip it.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on September 05, 2013, 06:12:18 PM
Everything indicates skip but it may look good in trailer form.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on September 09, 2013, 09:42:16 AM
Koei continues the musou madness- Shin Sangoku Musou 7 XL (Dynasty Warriors 8 Xtreme Legends) was announced for Playstation 4.  Looks like a minor visual upgrade; I hope it's at least a solid 60 FPS now.

Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: magus on September 09, 2013, 12:32:07 PM
i posted some one piece musou 2 impression in the WAYP thread and since i'm an asshole who needs validation you get them in this thread too :heh

Quote from: Me
One Piece Musou 2

i don't care much for either one piece or dynasty warrior but somehow i'm having fun with this,i'd put my money on...

A) the character all feel different enough (i especialy like nami who has a gimmick where some of her attack create clouds which you can then detonate with R2 and jinbei who's really slow but has the ability to summon a wave that cover all the screen and a one-strike punch that deals a shitload of damage,blows enemies away and look super cool)
B) the animation are really well done and colorfull
C) there is really a shitload of enemies on screen,i find myself using the lock option simply to keep track of the boss

i tought the game would follow the anime plot but i guess there still isn't enough time skip plot to do it so you get a token plot where all of the straw hat become evil except luffy and nami (yes,even chopper,especialy chopper) so luffy has now to hunt them and punch them in the face until they become good again oh and you get to start with smoker too for some reason (i guess because he's popular?)

there is no weapon system and instead you get coins,you equip coins to your stat and if you put 2 coins related to each other together they boost each other (so say... put straw hat pirates coins together,put nami coin with nami weapon coin) missions have objective where you can unlock more powerfull coins but it's usualy just to get 1000 kill,get the S rank,and finish the stage with no NPC dying

mmm... so what's bad about it? well the character all sort of feels underpowered,i mean they make a lot of explosions and have attack that makes enemy fly everywhere and blow them away which also have huge range but the damage you do to small grunt is pitifull and they usualy need more than 1 combo to end up dead,this is particulary annoying because you get ranked on your kill count and i've lost count how many times the game told me "oh yeah,you finished the stage quickly,you didn't take a lot of damage but whooooops! you didn't kill enough people! no full remark for you!" the stage are also sooooooooooooo long,i had a stage that took like 24 minutes
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on September 09, 2013, 12:33:40 PM
"the stage are also sooooooooooooo long,i had a stage that took like 24 minutes"

fuck yes

"so what's bad about it? well the character all sort of feels underpowered,i mean they make a lot of explosions and have attack that makes enemy fly everywhere blow away which also have huge range but the damage you do to small grunt is pitifull and they usualy need more than 1 combo to end up dead"

fuck yes
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on September 09, 2013, 12:37:48 PM
So Koei has announced Sengoku Musou 4 officially for ps3 and vita.

Good news. Hopefully we'll see it at TGS and hopefully it'll be cel shaded and look like the SW3XL intro:

http://youtu.be/ltUQyJTocpg

Magus, I think you'd like Samurai Warriors. It's the superior series.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: magus on September 09, 2013, 12:49:32 PM
i tought there wasn't a modern samurai warrior game? like the last one was in 2010? i mean surely by now after 3 years of other musou game it's pretty outdated no?

besides basara has soren and yoshiaki,you can't beat sorin and yoshiaki! :wag

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mY_3g61qT7U
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on September 09, 2013, 01:02:23 PM
I haven't played SW3 because Koei are distinguished mentally-challenged fellows who put it on the wii and we're never getting 3Z or 3XL or 3E in English.

However, I imagine SW4 will be crazy as shit given the past few years of Musou: Gundam Musou 3, DW8 (still haven't played :(), and WO3. If it's as fast-paced as those games, we're in for a treat.

However, I HAVE played SW2XL, SW: Chronicles, and vastly prefer Samurai Warriors characters in both Orochi's.

Samurai Warriors characters are very cartoony. Like, you got Tokugawa who has a giant...cannon, you've got Fuma who is a ninja with arms that stretch like Stretch Armstrong. The characters are more memorable and have more unique movesets, the stages are better designed because they're open ended and usually with a lot of goals and things to micromanage while on the battlefield. It's also more challenging, even on normal.

That "characters feel underpowered" and "stages are long" thing very similar to Samurai Warriors.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: magus on September 09, 2013, 01:12:00 PM
the funny thing about one piece musou 2 is that you get a musou bar and a rage bar (it's called style bar but whatever... it's the rage bar) so you can use your musou move on the boss,then go into style mode which slows down time and power up all your normal move,then when you get to the end of style mode you can pull off another musou attack,but wait! this musou attack let you tag with another character so he gets to slap the boss for a while too,then he gets to pull his own musou on the boss,then the thing ends and your musou bar get filled to whole again so you get to pull another musou attack on the boss again... then you pick one of those items that fill your style bar to full again and you get to do the whole thing again

your normal attack might not be much strong but it's really easy to rip bosses apart by spamming supers like there is no tomorrow

oh and that reminds me,everytime you want to add someone to the list of possible tag partners you have to prove yourself worthy by doing a short mission where you defeat them,that's another thing that annoy's me a lot
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on September 09, 2013, 01:20:06 PM
All you need to know about Pirate Warriors 2 is that it's now a traditional-style musou game and is very good, but Dynasty Warriors 8 is the better of the two titles released this year. 

DW8 (still haven't played :()

 :dead

WHAT.  THE.  FUCK.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on September 09, 2013, 02:18:48 PM
SMT4 and DW8 came out on the same day. :( Been busy.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on September 09, 2013, 02:30:42 PM
 :comeon

And you didn't play Saint's Row IV, either. 

 :what

Turn in your gamer badge and gun, himu.  It's over.

 :beli
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on September 09, 2013, 02:31:51 PM
I pre-ordered Musou Orochi 2 (Warriors Orochi 3) Ultimate

spoiler (click to show/hide)
On both Vita and PS3
[close]

 :-[ :-[ :-[
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on September 09, 2013, 02:33:50 PM
Huh? No Bork, I bought DW8 day one.

Just haven't popped it in the ps triple. Haven't turned on the triple in months.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on September 09, 2013, 02:34:59 PM
Huh? No Bork, I bought DW8 day one.

That's just as bad.   :fbm

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Just haven't popped it in the ps triple. Haven't turned on the triple in months.

 :comeon

So like I said-

And you didn't play Saint's Row IV, either. 

 :what

Turn in your gamer badge and gun, himu.  It's over.

 :beli
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on September 09, 2013, 02:41:17 PM
:yeshrug

3ds and pc take up my gamer time.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on September 09, 2013, 03:09:41 PM
'Tis a sad day in Musou Land.   :'(
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on September 09, 2013, 09:36:19 PM
Koei needs to join the bandwagon (my fantasy bandwagon) and start releasing Musou games on Steam.  They've released Musou games on PC before.  Now that the Xbone and PS4 are PCs, hopefully we'll see some ports.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on September 09, 2013, 09:48:33 PM
Seriously.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Van Cruncheon on September 10, 2013, 09:02:47 AM
is one piece pirate warriors 2 out stateside yet
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on September 10, 2013, 09:33:12 AM
is one piece pirate warriors 2 out stateside yet

 :'(

One Piece Pirate Warriors 2 should be on PSN now.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: MoxManiac on September 10, 2013, 06:16:35 PM
Sick of all these exciting musou announcements being irrelevant to me because they aren't leaving Japan. I hate my life.

DW8 XL - likely staying JP exclusive
SW2 rerelease - staying JP exclusive
Gundam 4 - likely staying JP exclusive
Orochi 3 Ultimate - likely staying JP exclusive
DW8 +XL PS4 - likely staying JP exclusive
SW4 - who knows at this point, i'm sure as hell not counting on it

No, I will not import. I'm through wading through moon language and paying excessive import prices.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: archnemesis on September 10, 2013, 07:00:20 PM
You don't think the first PS4 Dynasty Warriors will make it over? It would probably sell quite well in the post-launch drought.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: MoxManiac on September 10, 2013, 07:06:01 PM
I dunno, it would essentially be a PS3 up-port, so who knows if they'd bother (or if Sony would even let them). If Koei was doing a proper PS4 DW game i'd certainly expect it to be released here.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on September 10, 2013, 07:07:18 PM
We got fucking One Piece Warriors, Mox. One Piece has no audience in the US. We'll get Samurai Warriors.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Trent Dole on September 10, 2013, 07:07:50 PM
XL has always come over previously, as has Gundam and SW. The remakes and port ups chances of making it over are dubious at best but it's still an exciting time for western based musou fans.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: MoxManiac on September 10, 2013, 09:47:27 PM
I think XL might not come over this time  :gloomy
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on September 10, 2013, 10:08:05 PM
We got fucking One Piece Warriors, Mox. One Piece has no audience in the US. We'll get Samurai Warriors.

This.  If they actually brought out One Piece Pirate Warriors 2, I see no reason why the others won't come out (digitally). 

I'm importing Orochi 3 Ultimate.  Maybe Gundam on Vita and maybe Samurai Warriors 4 too.  The others will wait.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on September 10, 2013, 10:37:46 PM
DW8 XL Playstation 4 screenshots.  Spoiler-tagging since they're 1920x1080.

spoiler (click to show/hide)
(http://gematsu.com/gallery/albums/dynasty-warriors-8-xtreme-legends/september-10-2013/Dynasty-Warriors-8-Xtreme-Legends_2013-09-10-13_003.jpg)
(http://gematsu.com/gallery/albums/dynasty-warriors-8-xtreme-legends/september-10-2013/Dynasty-Warriors-8-Xtreme-Legends_2013-09-10-13_002.jpg)
(http://gematsu.com/gallery/albums/dynasty-warriors-8-xtreme-legends/september-10-2013/Dynasty-Warriors-8-Xtreme-Legends_2013-09-10-13_001.jpg)
[close]

 :mouf
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on September 10, 2013, 10:44:24 PM
OH MY GOD.

GOD IS REAL.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Trent Dole on September 10, 2013, 10:46:58 PM
fuuuuu gonna need a PS4 sooner rather than later if that shit makes its way over here :rejoice
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: archnemesis on September 11, 2013, 07:40:48 AM
I just started playing my first non-demo Musuo and figured I'd ask some veterans for advice. Right now I'm completing missions very fast and I still get top ranked. Would it be better to kill as many enemies as possible before I try to accomplish the mission goals, provided I have enough time?

Is there anything else I need to know about Bladestorm? I've completed three missions and now I need to decide if I want to spend my ~5000 gold on equipment, consumables, units, or all of the above.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on September 11, 2013, 08:50:58 AM
depends on how many goals and if the goals are time based (usually are).

good jon on picking up bladestorm though.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on September 11, 2013, 09:47:00 AM
Yeah, in some games you have to race from one end of the map to the other.  In DW8, for example, you can't even do some of the side missions unless you have multiple musou stocks available to use when riding a horse, for a turbo-boost.  Some side missions also require you to ignore what the game is telling you to do to properly complete them.   :dizzy

For the most part, everything is pretty straight forward, which is why I generally have no problems when importing.  Dynasty Warriors is usually the exception.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on September 13, 2013, 10:14:12 AM
DW8 on PS4 is now confirmed to be the original plus XL in one package.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on September 18, 2013, 02:42:13 PM
http://gematsu.com/2013/09/warriors-orochi-3-ultimate-unlimited-mode-introduction-video

Quote
One of Warriors Orochi 3 Ultimate‘s new features is a new “Unlimited Mode.”

In this mode, players assemble a party of five characters and seize dungeons made up of multiple battlefields.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UMQkcBLMuMw


 :lawd :rejoice :mouf
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on September 18, 2013, 02:43:30 PM
SENGOKU MUSOU 4 REVEAL PLEASE
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on September 18, 2013, 02:44:03 PM
http://gematsu.com/2013/09/warriors-orochi-3-ultimate-unlimited-mode-introduction-video

Quote
One of Warriors Orochi 3 Ultimate‘s new features is a new “Unlimited Mode.”

In this mode, players assemble a party of five characters and seize dungeons made up of multiple battlefields.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UMQkcBLMuMw


 :lawd :rejoice :mouf

sweet merciful fuck
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Mr. Gundam on September 18, 2013, 02:56:44 PM
Basara 4 end of January. Rock on.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on September 18, 2013, 03:25:16 PM
Basara 4 end of January. Rock on.

I'm sure I'm still gonna get it, but I'm pretty un-hyped for this.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on September 18, 2013, 03:26:33 PM
Where is a trailer for basara 4
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on September 18, 2013, 03:32:57 PM
Where is a trailer for basara 4

These are the latest videos.  The game looks like SB3 but with less characters (at least from what they've shown).   :-\  Looks combo-crazy though.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CEF8WW05-QA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iWmKFvCzrgw
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Mr. Gundam on September 18, 2013, 03:45:00 PM
Basara 4 end of January. Rock on.
I'm sure I'm still gonna get it, but I'm pretty un-hyped for this.

I'm kinda indifferent, but it's on my shopping list for the April trip to Osaka/Tokyo.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on September 18, 2013, 04:39:52 PM
The SB HD Collection is on my list whenever I'm there next time, too.  But if it gets dumped cheap at P-A I guess there's no point in waiting.

I'm actually more interested in getting rid of some shit the next time I'm there.   :lol

So far nobody wants to buy my copy of JoJo's for PS3.   :'(
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Mr. Gundam on September 18, 2013, 05:57:51 PM
I'll give you $5.

The HD Collection is also on my list.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on September 18, 2013, 11:41:00 PM
 :comeon

spoiler (click to show/hide)
$5?  I wouldn't want to rip you off.
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Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Mr. Gundam on September 19, 2013, 12:44:03 PM
:comeon

spoiler (click to show/hide)
$5?  I wouldn't want to rip you off.
[close]

I was going to originally suggest you pay me $5 to take it off your hands.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on September 19, 2013, 02:40:02 PM
It's actually coming out Stateside now!  LOL, I'm never gonna be able to get rid of it  :lol


 :-\
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Mr. Gundam on September 19, 2013, 02:45:01 PM
It's actually coming out Stateside now!  LOL, I'm never gonna be able to get rid of it  :lol


 :-\

Half Price Books take import games. Are they in Atlanta?
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on September 19, 2013, 02:51:20 PM
LOL, no.  I might try Play-Asia's trade-in system.  I want to dump EX Troopers too (another GAF hyped-up turd).
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Mr. Gundam on September 19, 2013, 03:13:45 PM
LOL, no.  I might try Play-Asia's trade-in system.  I want to dump EX Troopers too (another GAF hyped-up turd).

I really liked EX Troopers. Wish there would've been more rail shooter mecha segments though.

I'm sure you could sell that one in the GAF Buy/Sell/Trade thread.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: magus on September 19, 2013, 04:56:25 PM
i'm continuing with my one piece musou 2 playthrough once in a while and this is so much better than dynasty warriors 8 that words can't describe,the characters feel diverse (for example i unlocked mihawk who has an infinite square combo,and crocodile who has the power of draining enemy to increase his rage bar so you can basicaly be in rage mode forever as long as you keep draining enemies) and on the screen there is just utter plain chaos,there was a moment where i used crocodile musou attack twice and somehow ended up scoring 250 kills with those 2 attack alone... it also never feel like there is a moment where i'm just walking toward my next objective

Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on September 26, 2013, 10:39:49 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/CHXDSVPl.jpg)

 :hyper :hyper :hyper :hyper

I think my original MO2 save is on my J-account, which means no Vita support (I'm not doing account switching).  So I think I'm gonna start over.  And I don't mind!   :hyper
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on September 26, 2013, 12:12:19 PM
Quote
Musou Orochi 2 Ultimate


Changes
Everyone has been tweaked to play slightly different than the original game a la Warriors Orochi 2. Strong characters have been weakened. The maximum level cap is 100 instead of 99. Character growth is influenced by weapon enhancements and character parameters, meaning that even maximum leveled characters can still be altered to a degree.
Each character is given a second personal skill that contributes to the team's overall stats.

Includes new items and weapon attributes.

"Triple Rush", a stronger variation of Switch Combos, launches foes into the air for greater combo freedom. It is easier to cancel attacks using this skill. Unique versions are triggered by performing the attack using a specific set of characters, with more than 50 team combinations available.

Mitsunari Ishida, Kiyomasa Katō, Masanori Fukushima
Yoshihiro Shimazu, Ginchiyo Tachibana, Muneshige Tachibana
Sun Jian, Nene, Sophitia

"Midair Tie Up Action" is a new aerial R1 attack which drains a portion of the Musou gauge to use. The action performed is reliant on the user's type (Power, Speed, Technique, Wonder).

Technique types have a new ability: press X while being attacked to shift behind the opponent.

Two players can activate their teams' Musou to have all six characters attack with a special energy effect. This is called "Shin Musou Burst".
Dynasty Warriors 8's version of horse whistling is present.

Includes new five-star weapons and unique "mystic weapons" for the entire cast which can be acquired by completing specific requirements within Story or Free Mode.
Characters can now carry four to six items instead of two. A separate slot is available for saddles.

The maximum K.O. count is now 10,000 while stock experience is capped at 999,999 as opposed to 99,999.

A Samurai Warriors 3-like color editor is available to customize characters' appearances.

Downloadable content has been noted to appear but not confirmed yet. Save data and DLC from Warriors Orochi 3 can be transferred to Ultimate.
ModesEdit

The modes in the original game and Hyper's Duel Mode return with the following changes.

Story Mode

Four new chapters are added to this entry which highlight two major story arcs:
The Tale of the Latter Day - Takes place after Hydra's defeat.
The Tale of the Former Day - Explains Orochi's origins.

Various new side stories for the playable cast are also included. These stories showcase characters who had few appearances in the main story arc.

Unlimited Mode

A new addition focusing on a five man team. The overall goal is to have these characters survive various trials in order to escape a multi-leveled dungeon; if a character within the players' team perishes, players may choose to wait for their natural resurrection or proceed onwards to the next level without them. All characters in a player's team can fight on the field simultaneously in this mode. Players cannot save until they have completed at least one level and difficulty gradually increases based on their progression. Co-op within this mode has two players control two characters within a single team with the freedom to swap with a single button tap; unused members are controlled by the AI.
Players may select a designated team formation for their party. Effects for this ability are reliant on the party's character and composition, but players generally gain special bonuses or techniques when these formations are activated by at least three characters in their team. Certain techniques may yield different effects when used together. "Dragon spots" are scattered within each map, and they can either restore health, provide buffs, or warp the party to a different part of the map.

Weapons, levels, and experience earned within this mode can be kept for other modes. An option to further strengthen weaponry can be accessed within this mode via rare materials collected from treasure chests throughout the battlefield. These chests may be laden with various traps. Materials can be earned by completing missions given by a female mystic at the main camp.

Shin Musou Battlefields

A renewal of the Musou Battlefields feature. Warriors now cost nothing to change, and in-battle quotes and notifications can be customized by players.

Characters

The entire cast from Hyper and Xu Shu will appear with the following new additions.
Mae Tamamo
Yinglong
A younger Nezha
Kyubi no Kitsune
Hundun
Kasumi from Dead or Alive 5
Sterkenburg Cranach from Atelier Meruru: The Apprentice of Arland
Sophitia Alexandra from Soulcalibur IV

 :mouf
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on September 29, 2013, 11:01:45 PM
I've put a bit over 13 hours into Musou Orochi 2 Ultimate this past weekend.  Used the recommended teams for the first few hours, but once I got Sun Shangxiang unlocked, that extra ground R1 attack was too good to let go of, and she pretty much stayed on my team to bail out the other two characters or to clear out generals in a hurry if needed.  I think she's already at level 70.  Currently using an all Ninja Gaiden/DOA team consisting of Hayabusa, Ayane, and Kasumi.  The extra features are nice- everyone has a new air attack with R1 and you can someone the horse to you and immediately start riding by holding up on the d-pad, similar to DW8.

I double-dipped on the game and have been playing it on both PS3 and Vita.  The Vita version is a great port, but does have some noticeable downgrades.  It seems to be running at a lower framerate (although this keeps things more stable), there's noticeable missing detail and less enemies on-screen, and something just looks weird with water (screens below), but overall there's really not much to complain about it.

Some screens of the Vita version:

(http://i.imgur.com/ZwDzxjj.jpg)(http://i.imgur.com/dT0IK7b.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/6EctGOS.jpg)(http://i.imgur.com/Abiw1XY.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/7KIJGp5.jpg)(http://i.imgur.com/Wmk4oIo.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/YO5Efzg.jpg)(http://i.imgur.com/tcuAOmw.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/H4Jb5e1.jpg)(http://i.imgur.com/8SxTHkr.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/rqF06Bs.jpg)(http://i.imgur.com/b3MwnRu.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/d7O2AxS.jpg)(http://i.imgur.com/AUSeIvt.jpg)

Here's the water visuals I was talking about.  Basically when there's no lighting, water is dull and lifeless.  It looks pretty bad.  When there's lighting of any kind, then it looks better and is animated.  I can't tell if this was intentional or is a glitch of some sort.  The two screens from the same area.

(http://i.imgur.com/WbkAHGF.jpg)(http://i.imgur.com/2BXTuQh.jpg)

And for comparison, here are some screenshots of One Piece Kaizoku Musou 2 on Vita.  It looks cleaner and sharper in comparison and I think is the more-impressive port.

(http://i.imgur.com/qD4FyAJ.jpg)(http://i.imgur.com/I4p88Bz.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/pPUhRGj.jpg)(http://i.imgur.com/37vScy6.jpg)
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on September 29, 2013, 11:03:52 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/YO5Efzg.jpg)

who is this?!
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on September 29, 2013, 11:12:55 PM
Abe No Seimei (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abe_no_Seimei), who I notice is missing from the list of new characters on the Koei wikias.  Weird...you get him fairly early on after Xu Shu. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i9togIQEBcg
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on September 29, 2013, 11:18:23 PM
I think he must have been added in Hyper.

Here's the new/added characters to Ultimate, from Koei's site:
(http://i.imgur.com/76sBkZc.jpg)

Then the second set of new additions are from Special (Rachel) and Hyper:
(http://i.imgur.com/K49C7CC.jpg)
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on September 29, 2013, 11:21:35 PM
Abe No Seimei (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abe_no_Seimei), who I notice is missing from the list of new characters on the Koei wikias.  Weird...you get him fairly early on after Xu Shu. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i9togIQEBcg

He flies?!
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on September 29, 2013, 11:23:50 PM
That video shows the special attacks he has.   :)  The added air R1 stuff gives some characters a lot more of an air game.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on September 29, 2013, 11:25:34 PM
His cheekbones and blush :lol he's so pretty
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on September 29, 2013, 11:28:04 PM
 :lol

Also, Kasumi is fucking INSANE.  I got a 300+ hit combo going, with her alone,  like it was nothing the first time I tried her.  That was after leveling her to around 30 with stock points and doing some weapon fusion stuff first though.  Like Ayane, her second outfit type is totally different- it's the ninja armor from NG3/DOA5.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on September 29, 2013, 11:42:59 PM
And this is the best-looking musou game on the Vita, but it has waaaaay less going on (much, much smaller stages) and less characters on-screen. 

(http://i.imgur.com/WCYWWUV.jpg)(http://i.imgur.com/cRLhhxK.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/TAEpmaH.jpg)(http://i.imgur.com/9xO6LaH.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/l97fRfL.jpg)(http://i.imgur.com/CbVjnCT.jpg)
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on September 29, 2013, 11:51:21 PM
I'll take more enemies over better character models.

In Senran Kagura's case, the visual aesthetic certainly lends to it looking better. One Piece Musou for instance is blah 3d. Would look better if it looked like Gundam Musou 3.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on September 30, 2013, 12:06:29 AM
I'll take more enemies over better character models.

Well, another thing Senran Kagura has going for it is the much higher and smoother framerate.  You get less enemies, but it's still enough for a musou game and more pop in right as one batch is defeated.  But SK is nowhere near as deep or as challenging as the Koei musous can be.  It's more of a flashier, simpler -insanely pervered- musou.   :lol

Quote
In Senran Kagura's case, the visual aesthetic certainly lends to it looking better. One Piece Musou for instance is blah 3d. Would look better if it looked like Gundam Musou 3.

Yeah, if any game should have been cel-shaded...it's One Piece.  All the anime games, for that matter.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on October 01, 2013, 09:31:25 AM
17 hours clocked in and I'm still only on chapter 3 (out of 8 chapters).   :o  More and more side missions keep opening up!

Got Sophitia.  She's a technical character and seems pretty strong.  Moves and combos are taken right from Soul Calibur (the triangle attack is the 'face ride' throw  :lol) and you meet her on the stage from the original Soul Edge.  Both Soul Edge and Soul Calibur can be unlocked as weapons.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on October 02, 2013, 08:33:24 PM
Quote
Koei Tecmo announced Sengoku Musou 4 [Samurai Warriors 4] for PS3 and PS Vita, the game will due out in Japan in spring 2014. The story mode will be based on Nobuyuki Sanada's perspective on the history of unifying the country. There will be over 50 playable characters, and you can switch between two characters in each stage, similar to Sengoku Musou: Chronicles. There will be a custom mode for you to create your own warrior. New Godspeed Action and Secret Musou moves will be available.

I'm going to buy all these musou games, aren't I?   :stahp
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Trent Dole on October 02, 2013, 08:37:55 PM
Why does that get a  :stahp More musou is a glorious thing :rejoice
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on October 03, 2013, 08:13:37 AM
My wallet  :stahp
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on October 03, 2013, 11:06:40 AM
oh my god, two characters :rejoice
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on October 17, 2013, 12:20:25 PM
Started Dynasty Warriors 8. So far it's pretty good. The stages are passive and boring so far, but the combat is good and the story mode allows for more replayability compared to 7 in that you can choose who you want to play on any given stage. That's cool. It stands to reason though that I just find plain jane Dynasty Warriors flat out meh now after Warriors Orochi 3. It doesn't help I prefer Samurai Warriors a large amount. At this point I'm more interested in getting One Piece Warriors 2.

Also got Basara 3 for ps3. I...don't think Basara is for me. This is boring. The movelists are extremely limited, I literally only have like three moves total so far. I picked my Samurai Warriors mainstay, Magoichi Saika - who is a girl in this  :mindblown - and I'm so bored. There's no combos to be done, or cancels, or anything. It's just square, square, square, square, triangle now and then. Dynasty Warriors moveset, even at the outset, is far more fluid and allows for experimentation. Maybe it gets better down the line, but this feels this is a pretty bad knock off so far. For all the talk of Basara's emphasis on action over Dynasty Warriors, the action is far lesser than that of Dynasty Warriors, and the strategy element of traditional Warriors games is absent. It's there in the form of bases, but even then there's absolute zero tension so far.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: MoxManiac on October 18, 2013, 04:48:28 PM
Obligatory complaining about SW4's chances of coming out in NA.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Trent Dole on October 18, 2013, 04:54:44 PM
Obligatory complaining about SW4's chances of coming out in NA.
What, 100%?
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on October 18, 2013, 04:56:02 PM
Mox. It will come.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: MoxManiac on October 18, 2013, 08:05:35 PM
You guys :'(
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on October 19, 2013, 12:47:43 AM
This stage design continues to be boring as fuck in DW8. This may be my last Dynasty Warriors unless they change it up for DW9. Samurai Warriors, all the way. Fuck linear stages and lack of ANY tension.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Yulwei on October 19, 2013, 01:00:36 AM
Is WO3U really that good? thread title got me interested
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on October 19, 2013, 01:03:21 AM
It's just for fun because unlimited mode is a dungeon crawler and since Musou is bout dat loot, it was a fun comparison. However, WO3 was my favorite game in 2012, so yeah, I'd say it's that good.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on October 19, 2013, 01:14:22 AM
It seems like a blessing I didn't start playing DW8 until recently. The more I put in, the more I don't like it. I'll beat story mode first, but after playing some of Ambition Mode, I'm leaning on "sucks" as my verdict which is disappointing. It just isn't clicking with me. Game is baaaad. You'd have to only like mindless hack and slash element of Dynasty Warriors to enjoy this, I think. Either that, or combos.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on October 19, 2013, 04:30:49 PM
Also got Basara 3 for ps3. I...don't think Basara is for me. This is boring. The movelists are extremely limited, I literally only have like three moves total so far. I picked my Samurai Warriors mainstay, Magoichi Saika - who is a girl in this  :mindblown - and I'm so bored. There's no combos to be done, or cancels, or anything. It's just square, square, square, square, triangle now and then. Dynasty Warriors moveset, even at the outset, is far more fluid and allows for experimentation. Maybe it gets better down the line, but this feels this is a pretty bad knock off so far. For all the talk of Basara's emphasis on action over Dynasty Warriors, the action is far lesser than that of Dynasty Warriors, and the strategy element of traditional Warriors games is absent. It's there in the form of bases, but even then there's absolute zero tension so far.

Basara has combos up the ass, so I'm not getting where you're coming from.  It's much more linear, crazier, Samurai Warriors.  And please tell me you're cranking the difficulty up in all these games if there's "zero tension" for you. 

This stage design continues to be boring as fuck in DW8. This may be my last Dynasty Warriors unless they change it up for DW9. Samurai Warriors, all the way. Fuck linear stages and lack of ANY tension.

Again, what difficulty level are you playing on?  Are you going for the stars?  That's where the challenge comes from- unlocking the extra stages and alternate paths is where the real meat of the game is. 

Obligatory complaining about SW4's chances of coming out in NA.

Mox, it's time to stop this silly no-import restriction you've placed on yourself.

Is WO3U really that good? thread title got me interested

The Warriors Orochi games are easily my favorite out of all the Koei musou titles.  I like the game play system and settings/story (mystical/mythical characters instead of just historical characters, and in WO3, characters from other games like Ninja Gaiden.)

As for the 'Diablo' part mentioned in the thread title, Himu can't comment on that.  I'm the only one here with Ultimate AFAIK and I have barely touched that part of the game.  I just put in 37+ hours to finish up the vanilla WO3 content and am now on the new stuff.  The Unlimited Mode really isn't going to be something like Diablo, however.  That's a bit misleading.

Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on October 19, 2013, 05:55:35 PM
Basara has combos up the ass? At the outset at least, there's not much you can do.m with your character. When can you do combos?

Re: DW8 what stars?

As for difficulty, I have it on normal. I've found my favorite Musou games are fine on normal, until a certain point when you should bump it up to hard.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on October 19, 2013, 06:07:49 PM
Basara has combos up the ass? At the outset at least, there's not much you can do.m with your character. When can you do combos?

Like...right away?  It's tough to find combo videos that show stuff in SB3 vanilla from the outset; everyone moved onto SB3 Utage.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-7tQHsRqB-w

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Re: DW8 what stars?

Stars as in the conditions on certain stages to change the outcome of the battles and open up extra levels- eventually resulting in a certain point where the entire level progression path will split off and different levels or scenarios of levels will open up, leading to that faction's "true" ending.  Basically, DW8's focus is on changing the historical and/or Romance Of The Three Kingdoms storylines up and giving each faction a happy ending.  With the true level paths opened up, everybody lives and wins in the end.  Don't consider anything "beaten" until you have both paths, all extra levels, and all stars filled in.  That's also how you get all the characters unlocked.

You can see the stars listed on the stage selection screen.  Initially they are blank and the description will fill in once you beat a faction's story and get the normal (or in this game, the "bad") ending.  Some of them you will get just by playing.

And this is what opens the game up- to fulfill some of those conditions, you break free of the linear paths and have to do stuff on your own to win.  I definitely suggest a FAQ for some of them as finding out some conditions is pretty damn hard.

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As for difficulty, I have it on normal. I've found my favorite Musou games are fine on normal, until a certain point when you should bump it up to hard.

OK, well...if there's no "tension...." TURN IT UP NOW.   :P
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on October 19, 2013, 06:27:55 PM
Story mode seems pretty thorough then. That's good. Thanks for the Basara video.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Trent Dole on October 19, 2013, 06:35:59 PM
There's a really good guide for getting all the hypothetical stages in DW8 on the koeiwarrios forums. When I get home I'll throw the link up (it may already be in this thread somewhere).
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on October 19, 2013, 06:52:49 PM
That Basara vid is the tits btw. Gonna see what I'm doing wrong later.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on October 19, 2013, 07:06:34 PM
One thing i love about Basara is that it has a lot of personality. Like, the one map with Toshiie and his sister when you're playing as Magoichi.

edit: Okay, yeah. The game simply doesn't tell you your full move list. I can do different moves if I charge the move, for instance. Need a full movelist. Why wouldn't they include one? ???
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Trent Dole on October 19, 2013, 10:45:05 PM
Ya go here for yr DW8age http://s13.zetaboards.com/koeiwarriors/topic/7080371/1/ I still need to finish this, lol. Musou games never end. :rock
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on October 25, 2013, 01:56:44 AM
One Piece Pirate Warriors 2 > Dynasty Warriors 8

 :whoo :whoo :whoo

Helps that it's my favorite comic book of all time, but :lawd
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: magus on October 25, 2013, 06:05:37 AM
told ya :smug

what character are you using? if you aren't using
spoiler (click to show/hide)
kuzan
[close]
you are doing it wrong
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on October 25, 2013, 08:46:02 AM
One Piece Pirate Warriors 2 > Dynasty Warriors 8

It's really good but I don't know if I like it more than DW8.  I really like the weapon switching stuff and the partner system in OP doesn't make up for it.

Also Musou Orochi 2 Ultimate >>>>>>>>> Both of those games
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on October 25, 2013, 12:22:43 PM
I'm not sure why you're telling us that, dude. Warriors Orochi 3 > all Musou that aren't Samurai Warriors 2 XL :lawd

Partner switching in OP isn't really a replacement for weapon switching for me. Problem with weapon switching in DW8 is the affinity crap. It makes the game too unpredictable and repetitive. See a blue icon? Kick his ass until you're doing that rapid move. Watch, as you deplete their life in 5 seconds, without a means to stop it. See a guy with an exclamation mark? Parry his attacks and build your rage meter. Then, when you get to an enemy officer, unleash your true rage, deplete their health in 2 seconds. Broke as fuck. :neogaf and in the case of the blue icons, takes control completely out of your hands. Equip a heaven type and a man type each stage, and you'll more than likely encounter most enemies as Man weak type. The affinities are awful.

Compared to One Piece's system where each and every character can achieve style action mode, its emphasis on dodging, and counters (if a Logia is logia mode, counter while in style mode). This makes it reasonably balanced, granted you aren't overleveled.

But this combined with the stage design, mission variety, and replay value of the stages (coins) make it kick DW8's ass.

I can tell this was by Dynasty Warriors Gundam team because of the interface of the maps. They're identical DWG3. They've REALLY improved since that game. It lacks the repetition of that game while still holding some of its core fundamentals.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on October 25, 2013, 12:23:16 PM
told ya :smug

what character are you using? if you aren't using
spoiler (click to show/hide)
kuzan
[close]
you are doing it wrong

Haven't unlocked Aokiji yet but I'm leaning on playing as Marco.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: magus on October 25, 2013, 01:52:59 PM
all of his attack freeze people and have huge range,if you press R2,he threws a kick and all the minor enemy shatter and die,it's awesome
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on October 25, 2013, 03:42:03 PM
I like DW8 more than One Piece.  Maybe I'd feel different if I were more of a fan.  But that said, I like both games.  And you can find broken shit in any of these titles.

Warriors Orochi 3 > all Musou

Fixed.
  :mynicca
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on October 25, 2013, 03:44:30 PM
Warriors Orochi 3 :bow :bow :bow

my nicca

:bow

Best Musou game :rejoice
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on October 25, 2013, 11:39:01 PM
Yep, they perfected the formula with that game.  The gameplay, the atmosphere, the massive size of the levels, the unlockables, etc.  The Joan of Arc stage made it seem like some epic shit was going down.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on October 26, 2013, 02:40:26 AM
GOTY 2012

Haven't seen WO3U intro before :obama

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AoaJ89oNX_c

Need to rebuy for ps3 for DAT MUSOU :punch I'm sure I could trade dw8 for it. I'm just not interested in dw8 at all. WO3 spoiled me.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: pancakesandsex on October 28, 2013, 10:58:26 AM
Ok so, what games are on the horizon confirmed for US and EU release, and in what format (physical / digital only)?

Upcoming games I have not heard an announcement about:

Warriors Orochi 2 Ultimate (3 Ultimate)
Samurai Warriors 4
Dynasty Warriors 8 XL

Anyone know what's up?
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on October 28, 2013, 11:04:41 AM
No games confirmed for the U.S. yet AFAIK.

At this point I'm pretty much set on importing everything.  Will hold off on DW8 XL in the hopes that the PS4 DW8+XL gets released here.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on October 28, 2013, 12:57:18 PM
No way are we getting WO2U. We MIGHT get DW8xl. We are deffo getting SW4.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on October 28, 2013, 01:50:55 PM
No way are we getting WO2U. We MIGHT get DW8xl. We are deffo getting SW4.

The only reason Samurai Warriors 3 came out over here is because Nintendo published it.  Sengoku Musou 3Z and the second Chronicles game for 3DS never made it out here, nor did the 3DS Dynasty Warriors Vs. game. 

My plan now is to just import these games on Vita, especially with the Vita TV coming.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on October 28, 2013, 01:54:40 PM
Samurai Warriors Chronicles 2 is on the 3ds which likely was never a good audience for the game to begin with. You have a point with 3Z, but they have a new start with 4. It makes no sense to bring over One Piece Pirate Warriors 2 and Ken's Rage 2 and not Samurai Warriors 4. Stop killing my optimism, Lyte. I love Samurai Warriors!!! I want 4 in English! STAHP.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Trent Dole on October 28, 2013, 02:03:17 PM
Oh, four's coming over, come on. The localisations for these usually don't get announced until after they've shipped in their home country usually anyways, right?
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: pancakesandsex on October 28, 2013, 03:22:34 PM
Honestly I figured all 3 of those games to be a lock for localization, just not sure on what platform and whether it will be digital only or not.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on November 11, 2013, 02:40:34 PM
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Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on November 11, 2013, 02:41:23 PM
Sengoku Musou 4 is coming out in March, BTW.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on November 11, 2013, 02:47:28 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kF6Qh0RBez0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yxX48JFAcqk
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on November 11, 2013, 02:48:06 PM
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Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on November 11, 2013, 02:54:28 PM
I.

DON'T.

GIVE.

A.

FUCK!!!

ABOUT.

DYNASTY WARRIORS 8 XL!!

SENGOKU MUSOU FOUR REVEAL.

NOW!!!
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Bebpo on November 11, 2013, 04:03:56 PM
Game looks so terrible lol

I like DW and I'm sure it'll be good fun, but graphically they aren't even trying.  Not even one bit.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on November 11, 2013, 04:27:15 PM
Looks like Warriors Orochi 3 Ultimate may be getting an English release....

...in Summer 2014.   :lol ::)

I can't commit to buying English versions of these games if they're gonna take that damn long to localize stuff.  Especially when the majority of Ultimate is ALREADY DONE IN ENGLISH.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on November 11, 2013, 04:29:10 PM
Game looks so terrible lol

I like DW and I'm sure it'll be good fun, but graphically they aren't even trying.  Not even one bit.

It looks like the typical port-up I'd expect from them, kind of like the first Xbox 360 port-ups they did, only without the huge difference in resolutions.  We're not gonna see anything that screams "next-gen" until they actually switch to the PS4 as the lead platform.  Expecting lots of port-ups in 2014.  Probably Samurai Warriors 4+XL reveal in Fall 2014.

Right now I'm planning on getting the new Gundam Musou and SW4 on Vita only.  No need for console versions with the Vita TV.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on November 11, 2013, 04:45:20 PM
I think the graphics look good. Nice and clear resolution. It's like SamWar2 360 and Dynasty Warriors 5 360. Shouldn't expect that much better graphics beyond slightly better lighting/effects.

And yeah, WO3U taking that long is pretty :lol
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on November 12, 2013, 09:07:56 AM
Yamanaka Shikanosuke at 2:30 :rofl

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oY0znlrlPeo
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: pancakesandsex on November 12, 2013, 10:48:16 AM
Looks like Warriors Orochi 3 Ultimate may be getting an English release....

...in Summer 2014.   :lol ::)

I can't commit to buying English versions of these games if they're gonna take that damn long to localize stuff.  Especially when the majority of Ultimate is ALREADY DONE IN ENGLISH.

Will it be physical in the US this time?
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on November 12, 2013, 10:59:35 AM
That basara 4 trailer kicks ass.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on November 12, 2013, 11:06:16 AM
Looks like Warriors Orochi 3 Ultimate may be getting an English release....

...in Summer 2014.   :lol ::)

I can't commit to buying English versions of these games if they're gonna take that damn long to localize stuff.  Especially when the majority of Ultimate is ALREADY DONE IN ENGLISH.

Will it be physical in the US this time?

(http://blogs.reuters.com/globalinvesting/files/2008/10/laugh3.jpg)
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: pancakesandsex on November 12, 2013, 11:30:08 AM
 :goty
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on November 25, 2013, 12:21:51 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0zc_3yz-M4

Didn't know there was a Gundam called "BearGGuy."  Sounds like the official Gundam of the Bore!
 :neogaf
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Mr. Gundam on November 25, 2013, 02:43:58 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0zc_3yz-M4

Didn't know there was a Gundam called "BearGGuy."  Sounds like the official Gundam of the Bore!
 :neogaf

Bearguy is from the Gunpla Builders Beginning G OVA.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on November 25, 2013, 02:51:40 PM
That doesn't look too bad. Anymore good Shin Gundam vids?
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Bebpo on November 25, 2013, 02:57:12 PM
It's the same game as the last one but with the graphics of GM2 instead of GM3.  The only new units are b-tier Seed and Unicorn units and now MA's that have been in the series for a few games are playable + Bear guy whose a pre-order bonus from Gunpla Builders OAV.

I love the series, but this game is pointless.  But that's what happens when GM3 already had through Unicorn/OO and the only new Gundam show since then has been AGE which no one wants in a game and now Build Fighters.  They should put the series on hold for a generation until a couple more real Gundam series come out and come back with their stuff included.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on November 25, 2013, 03:00:19 PM
Oh wow. Skip.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on November 25, 2013, 03:10:12 PM
Totally importing for the Vita.  Portable GUNDAMIN' :rock

It's the same game as the last one but with the graphics of GM2 instead of GM3.  The only new units are b-tier Seed and Unicorn units and now MA's that have been in the series for a few games are playable + Bear guy whose a pre-order bonus from Gunpla Builders OAV.

I love the series, but this game is pointless.  But that's what happens when GM3 already had through Unicorn/OO and the only new Gundam show since then has been AGE which no one wants in a game and now Build Fighters.  They should put the series on hold for a generation until a couple more real Gundam series come out and come back with their stuff included.

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Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on November 25, 2013, 03:14:01 PM
That's what I'm finding on the game.  I'm getting it as I have never played through any of these before.

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Called Shin Gundam Musou in Japanese, the new title marks a return to a more realistic graphical style for the series after Dynasty Warriors: Gundam 3's cel-shaded look. This will allow for things like spot damage on Mobile Suits, and you'll get ample chance to see this in action, given that NBGI is planning for over 100 MS units to be playable between Official Mode (which recreates the original story from several Gundam anime) and Ultimate Mode (which features an all-new story).

New units include the RX-0 Banshee from Gundam UC and the GAT-X105 Strike Gundam and GAT-X202 Aegis Gundam both from Gundam SEED. In addition, Shin Gundam Musou will feature controllable Mobile Armors, mech units that are generally much larger than your typical MS unit.

The new Gundam game, currently pegged at 80 percent complete, is due out Dec. 19 in Japan. The PS3 version will cost 7980 yen (approximately $80), while the Vita game will go for 6980 yen (about $70).

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Official Mode Returns: MSG, Zeta, CCA, UC, Seed, Seed Destiny Only

Ultimate Mode instead of story mode :/

Over 120 suits, most ever in the series

New Upgrade System (Suits and Weapons)

Taking all the best aspects of the first three games and cramming them into this game before the jump to Next Gen

New units spotted:

Super Gundam: Zeta Gundam
Strike Gundam (All Four Packs): Gundam Seed
Freedom Gundam: Gundam Seed
Impulse Gundam (Force Pack): Seed Destiny
Zaku Warrior (Green Color): Seed Destiny
Mobile Armors are now playable!!

Maybe Mu La Flaga will be a playable pilot ^_^

New Confirmations 10/01/13:

Bearguy First Edition Bonus DLC

Legend Gundam (most likely Rey as also)
Destroy Gundam MA (most likely Stella as well)
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on November 25, 2013, 03:16:00 PM
But before that, Shin Sangoku Musou 7+XL is out for PS3 and Vita this week.  The PS3 version will offer the option to upgrade to the PS4 version for 1000 yen, although my eye is on the Vita version.  But I've already played a shit-ton of of DW8 on PS3.  SO TORN OVER MUSOU
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Bebpo on November 25, 2013, 03:17:30 PM
Yeah, if you've never played any before it could be the best one.  Then again I really liked the cell-shaded look of GM3 and the speedy smaller battlefields so I doubt this will top GM3 for me.  But if you've played them all it doesn't really seem worth an upgrade.  Hell they're not even calling it GM4 because it's such an incremental advancement. 
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on November 25, 2013, 03:18:40 PM
Yeah, if you've never played any before it could be the best one.  Then again I really liked the cell-shaded look of GM3 and the speedy smaller battlefields so I doubt this will top GM3 for me.  But if you've played them all it doesn't really seem worth an upgrade.  Hell they're not even calling it GM4 because it's such an incremental advancement.

Are you going to apply this Infamous Second Son and not bother with that either? 
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on November 25, 2013, 03:21:43 PM
Where is a Sengoku Musou 4 trailerrrrrrrrrrr? :(

<-- been waiting for months
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on November 25, 2013, 03:22:27 PM
They got two musous out before that.  Patience!
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Bebpo on November 25, 2013, 05:00:37 PM
Yeah, if you've never played any before it could be the best one.  Then again I really liked the cell-shaded look of GM3 and the speedy smaller battlefields so I doubt this will top GM3 for me.  But if you've played them all it doesn't really seem worth an upgrade.  Hell they're not even calling it GM4 because it's such an incremental advancement.

Are you going to apply this Infamous Second Son and not bother with that either?

That doesn't even make any sense Lyte.  The reason they are not calling this GM4 is that it has no new Gundam franchises or stories.  It's the same as the last game but with some new B-tier units from existing series.  It's the equivalent to a Musou expansion pack (which they do all the time for DW and SW games) that they're selling for full price.

Infamous is an entirely new game in a new city, with a new character and new powers and new graphics engine and new missions and new moves and new physics and wait, why am I even replying to this post.  I know you love musou Lyte and you feel like you gotta defend each and every one of them, but you just said you've never even played a Gundam Musou game, so obviously you don't really care about the franchise and you're not knowledgeable about the franchise, so why are you defending this one again?  Just because it's the one you're going to buy and you want to justify your purchase?  I already said it's probably going to be the best one in the series if you haven't played any before, which is you but not most of us who've played 3 games in the franchise already and are figuring out if this is worth getting on top of that.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on November 26, 2013, 11:15:24 AM
Sure it makes "sense."  I'm just going by what you posted!


Infamous looks like Infamous with better graphics, more powers, more destruction.  If you liked Infamous 2 (like a lot of people did), this will be fun.  If you are an Infamous hater, you will hate this.


Game will score mainly 8s like Infamous 1 & 2 did.  It's the same damn game.  Not expecting it to change anyone's minds.

That Gundam game has new characters, powers, maps, and all that crap, and is more of the same too.  I'm not defending anything- I'm just pointing out what you said.   ;)
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Mr. Gundam on November 26, 2013, 11:55:09 AM
I don't even care if it's incremental. It's Gundam. I'm buying it.

spoiler (click to show/hide)
I also have SRW OG Infinite Battle LE preordered
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Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on November 26, 2013, 11:56:21 AM
I don't even care if it's incremental. It's Gundam. I'm buying it.

I think "incremental" and "musou" go hand in hand.  These games are like sports titles.

This Gundam looks pretty cool to me.   The Gundam Breaker demo I tried was  :yuck.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Mr. Gundam on November 26, 2013, 12:03:33 PM
Gundam Breaker ruled.  :maf
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on November 26, 2013, 07:39:36 PM
Ordered DW8+XL for Vita.  Sigh.  I'm hopeless. 

Apparently the PS4 version is coming out in December- in Asia.

Gundam Breaker ruled.  :maf

Loved the concept- build a Gundam and fight dudes on a pool table!?  Sounds awesome!

But then I tried the demo and it sucked.  It played like a bad musou game where you fight 4-5 enemies at a time.  Zzzzzz.

That said, I can see the appeal for Gundam fans.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on December 03, 2013, 11:28:57 PM
DW8+XL came in today.  Only had time to mess around and play a few levels.  Lu Bu's daughter is pretty fun to play as.  That crazy cross weapon is back!  Gonna try the new Lu Bu storyline route but then focus mainly on the new XL stuff in this port I think.  Although you have to go through the story modes to unlock levels, I like that all of the characters are available right off the bat to use in the other modes.  Speaking of which, Challenge Mode has been added.

The Vita version looks a bit better than some of the other Koei ports.  Definitely better than Warriors Orochi 3 Ultimate, for example, but unfortunately it suffers from some pretty bad framerate drops.  The console version has this problem too, but it's noticeably worse on Vita.  Still completely playable (it's a musou game- nothing particularly precise is needed here), but the other Koei Vita musou games perform better in comparison.  Maybe a patch will fix things up.  For now I'd definitely recommend getting this on PS3 or PS4 instead.

Some pics of the Vita port.  As always, Vita captures look shittier than the real thing.

(http://i.imgur.com/QUXh06C.jpg)(http://i.imgur.com/pRuMPnY.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/RcN3Fux.jpg)(http://i.imgur.com/1WPpA6X.jpg)

For comparison, here's WO3U:
(http://i.imgur.com/7KIJGp5.jpg)(http://i.imgur.com/ZwDzxjj.jpg)

And One Piece Kaizoku Musou 2:

(http://i.imgur.com/qD4FyAJ.jpg)(http://i.imgur.com/37vScy6.jpg)

One Piece is Koei's best port to the Vita, IMO.  It may be more simplistic visually, but it looks the best.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on December 03, 2013, 11:33:01 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iKHRZZtR-yc
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: pancakesandsex on December 04, 2013, 09:47:12 AM
Has there been any word on DW8XL coming to the US yet on ps3 or vita?
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on December 04, 2013, 12:54:40 PM
Has there been any word on DW8XL coming to the US yet on ps3 or vita?

Nothing yet.  They only just recently announced that Warriors Orochi 3 Ultimate would be coming out in Summer 2014.  Pretty much why I'm back to importing these games again.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on December 06, 2013, 11:26:25 AM
HIMU PREPARE FOR BONER

http://gematsu.com/2013/12/samurai-warriors-4-debut-trailer-screenshots
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on December 06, 2013, 11:29:04 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJcAkbryUj0

Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on December 06, 2013, 12:29:04 PM
FINALLY
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: pancakesandsex on December 06, 2013, 12:31:31 PM
Has there been any word on DW8XL coming to the US yet on ps3 or vita?

Nothing yet.  They only just recently announced that Warriors Orochi 3 Ultimate would be coming out in Summer 2014.  Pretty much why I'm back to importing these games again.

What platforms and formats?
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on December 06, 2013, 12:33:05 PM
Oh my god first musou I import. I will know 2000 kanji before this game comes out and it will be my victory lap. :rejoice

Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on December 06, 2013, 12:34:59 PM
The part where my Oda PARRIES with that sword. :rejoice

Also Ranmaru's new model is so pretty. :heart hopefully he is faster in this one.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Mr. Gundam on December 06, 2013, 01:39:25 PM
Two weeks until Shin Gundam Musou. :rock
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on December 06, 2013, 01:49:50 PM
Man, I gotta work on my Kanji.  I focused on the language when I studied and as a result suck at Kanji reading.  Easy enough to look stuff up, though.

Has there been any word on DW8XL coming to the US yet on ps3 or vita?

Nothing yet.  They only just recently announced that Warriors Orochi 3 Ultimate would be coming out in Summer 2014.  Pretty much why I'm back to importing these games again.

What platforms and formats?

You know what?  It's not 100% official yet.  Fuckin' gaffots.  No platforms mentioned.

https://twitter.com/koinuma_p/status/399756363888218114

Clearly very likely, however.  Plus Tecmo is releasing the WO3 Ultimate outfits for Kasumi, Ayane, and Momiji in for USA/Euro DOA5 Ultimate next week. (http://inspchin.wordpress.com/2013/12/06/dead-or-alive-5-ultimate-warriors-orochi-3-ultimate-costume-set-dlc-tkfamily-doa5u-wo3u/)
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on December 06, 2013, 01:50:49 PM
Two weeks until Shin Gundam Musou. :rock

:drool
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: MoxManiac on December 10, 2013, 04:58:00 PM
One piece 2 on sale for plus members for $12.50  :phil
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Akala on December 10, 2013, 07:29:13 PM
One piece 2 on sale for plus members for $12.50  :phil

been kinda looking at a musou....this one good? I have no attachment to the anime or anything, but also don't really want to spend more than 20 buxxx.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on December 10, 2013, 07:40:03 PM
It fucking owns. Story is fanfic bullshit, but as someone who hasn't read the comic or watched the animu this won't bother you. Gameplay rocks.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Akala on December 10, 2013, 09:44:03 PM
Sweet. Thanks.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on December 10, 2013, 10:34:51 PM
Yeah, you don't need to know anything about One Piece; it's just a good musou game.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Mr. Gundam on December 11, 2013, 10:44:20 AM
Two weeks until Shin Gundam Musou. :rock

:drool

One week until Shin Gundam Musou :rock

Except I'll be in Nebraska when it arrives and won't get back home to Seattle until the 28th.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on December 11, 2013, 12:10:42 PM
They are still revealing more Gundams for that game.  The character count is gonna be totally insane.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Mr. Gundam on December 11, 2013, 12:21:55 PM
They are still revealing more Gundams for that game.  The character count is gonna be totally insane.

Sounds like there will be a ton of DLC, too.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on December 11, 2013, 01:25:25 PM
I'll probably avoid that.  One good thing about playing these games on my American account means that I can't buy the content for the Vita versions.  That's good for me since it stops me from wasting money on dumb extra crap.   :P  The amount of DLC that some of these games have is absolutely massive in size.  Extra costumes, wallpapers, edit missions, etc. 
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: hampster on December 18, 2013, 09:11:04 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-dehlxzHk0

Well that was unexpected :o
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: magus on December 18, 2013, 09:22:00 AM
aren't you guys happy that it will now be you three guys and all of the nintendo fans that have suddenly become huge musou fans? (http://www.thecoli.com/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/pachah1.png)

you know the thing i don't get is that musou game have huge cast and there aren't enough relevant character in zelda game to make for a standard 8 character fighting game let alone a musou cast! what the heck are they going to put? play as malon? the guy with the trombone that plays the song of storm? a chicken? play as navi and annoy everyone to submission? the number of relevant zelda character is so low that they had to put toon link in smash bros just to add more zelda characters
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on December 18, 2013, 11:37:30 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-dehlxzHk0

Well that was unexpected :o

:dead

I don't see anything stating that this is being made by Omega Force, though. 

Looks pretty cool but I'd need to see more.  And what characters will be playable?  It's Zelda- you got Link, Zelda (maybe Shiek), Gannon, and uh...uh...generic guard guy?  Moblin?   :lol
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on December 18, 2013, 11:59:48 AM
NAME NOT FINAL
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on December 18, 2013, 12:15:22 PM
HIMU I SAW YOU PLAYING DW8 LAST NIGHT

I SEEN IT
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on December 18, 2013, 12:48:01 PM
I enjoy it more afrer taking pancakes tips. I don't ever fight officers with a strong weapon. I hate Storm Rush. It ruins the game for me. So I don't use those weapons. It is a lot more fun this way. Storm Rush sucks PATCH IT TO MAKE IT OPTIONAL, FUCK.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on December 18, 2013, 01:38:23 PM
Shin Gundam Musou will be here tomorrow :hyper

I really think this was "the year of the musou" for me.  Was never this much into these Koei games -past Warriors Orochis aside- before 2013.  Although I did play a lot of the first Hokuto Musou.  I hope Shin Gundam Musou is good and is not like the disappointment that the second Hokuto Musou, released around this time last year, was.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: pancakesandsex on December 18, 2013, 04:44:06 PM
aren't you guys happy that it will now be you three guys and all of the nintendo fans that have suddenly become huge musou fans? (http://www.thecoli.com/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/pachah1.png)

you know the thing i don't get is that musou game have huge cast and there aren't enough relevant character in zelda game to make for a standard 8 character fighting game let alone a musou cast! what the heck are they going to put? play as malon? the guy with the trombone that plays the song of storm? a chicken? play as navi and annoy everyone to submission? the number of relevant zelda character is so low that they had to put toon link in smash bros just to add more zelda characters

Real talk.  If you can play as a chicken, I will buy a wii U.


Unrelated, I played One Piece warriors 2 since it was 13 bucks on psn.  I love it, it's really vibrant and energetic, and the movesets are interesting.  I wish the framerate was a little more stable on the DW8 engine, but I'll take it.  Seems much more true to the formula than Fist was, but it's not as open from the get go as gundam.  If you haven't picked it up yet, do it.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Mr. Gundam on December 18, 2013, 06:08:39 PM
My copy of Shin Gundam Musou should be here Monday, but I'll out of town until the 28th. Oh well.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Takao on December 18, 2013, 06:58:47 PM
I think I might buy the new Gundam Muso but I'll wait a while to see if it gets localized.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on December 18, 2013, 07:18:19 PM
Fire Emblem would have made way more sense as a musou game.  Hell, Link could have been thrown in as a bonus character.

But I'm still interested in seeing how the game turns out. 
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: cool breeze on December 18, 2013, 07:43:32 PM
yeah, I'm interested in it.  I like Zelda and Musou games.

I think they should've gone full on Nintendo Musou.  Link fighting goombas, Mario fighting Ridley, etc.  but Nintendo is oddly stingy about mixing franchises past Smash Bros.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on December 18, 2013, 08:04:10 PM
Nintendo Musou makes more sense to me.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Bebpo on December 18, 2013, 10:13:21 PM
They seriously just need to f-ing make Berserk musou already.  It's the most obvious one since it has a great large playable cast with varied moves and is all about slicing through armies of 1000 and "best of" story modes for the arcs would be pretty neat.  The PS2 Berserk game was great and musou Berserk would be the best fit.  Hell they did FoTNS and Berserk is like the spiritual sequel.


Otherwise, yeah Fire Emblem is Nintendo's best fit.  I could see a Shin Megami Tensei one where you're using swords and guns and your combo finishers are summoning demons to attack mobs. 


Realistically?  I think now that they've caught up with Gundam and One Piece and FoTNS, the next franchise musous will be Kenshin, Attack on Titan, and Berserk?.  If they want to keep using popular manga series, the problem is some of them are already tied up with other developers.  Like Naruto already has musou-rip offs and yearly games from CC2, so I can't see Koei getting the license for a Naruto musou.  Bleach isn't popular anymore, plus it has games from Sony, or at least had them while it was popular.  Jojo's is with CC2 now.  FMA is with Square-Enix because the manga is owned by their manga publishing department.  I bet CC2 & Koei-Tecmo are in a bidding war for acquiring popular manga licenses to turn into games these days.  Then you have Bandai stuff which Namco does themself and won't let anyone else touch at all because they're stingy fucking Scamco.  I'd see Koei-Tecmo's picks are a bit limited...which means maybe Berserk is actually more likely than not to really happen! 
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on December 18, 2013, 10:15:43 PM
Kenshin Musou would make me cream.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Bebpo on December 18, 2013, 10:22:19 PM
With the new movies (live action & animated), it's popular enough that I can see it at some point.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on December 18, 2013, 10:32:10 PM
I would rather see a J-Stars style game with tons of Jump characters teaming up to beat the shit out of all their series baddies.  Basically Warriors Orochi with anime and manga characters.

Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: MoxManiac on December 18, 2013, 11:14:50 PM
I wonder if link will be mute as usual? Musou games also have lots of chatter and talky talk so i dunno how a silent protaginist will work.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on December 19, 2013, 12:23:33 AM
lyte play dw8 coop with me
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: magus on December 19, 2013, 06:33:44 AM
I wonder if link will be mute as usual? Musou games also have lots of chatter and talky talk so i dunno how a silent protaginist will work.

"link the castle is under siege! save us!"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A1vnJVWERH4
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on December 19, 2013, 08:46:43 AM
Wow, Koei already announced DW8 XL for North America/Europe- Spring 2014 (likely April) release on PS3, PS4, and Vita.  No info on whether or not North America gets this retail or if it's gonna be download only yet.  If they can't go for closer releases, I'm still going to import DW8+XL on PS4 in February, especially with the Vita version to sync data with.  Plus Sengoku Musou 4 will be out before then.

Himu- sure, never tried online co-op before although I read it was broken.  Hit me up if you see me online.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: pancakesandsex on December 19, 2013, 10:23:17 AM
Kenshin Musou would make me cream.

You know, I'm not really a fan of Kenshin.  Even in it's heyday it never clicked with me. However, I would totally play a musou version.  The characters are weird enough that this could be really fun.  "Rurouni Kenshin: Bakumatsu Musou".  I'd better be able to set folks on fire with burn mummy though.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: MoxManiac on December 19, 2013, 11:06:21 AM
Wow, Koei already announced DW8 XL for North America/Europe- Spring 2014 (likely April) release on PS3, PS4, and Vita.  No info on whether or not North America gets this retail or if it's gonna be download only yet.  If they can't go for closer releases, I'm still going to import DW8+XL on PS4 in February, especially with the Vita version to sync data with.  Plus Sengoku Musou 4 will be out before then.

Himu- sure, never tried online co-op before although I read it was broken.  Hit me up if you see me online.

 :dead :dead

I knew i just needed to be patient!
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Mr. Gundam on December 19, 2013, 11:48:22 AM
Just do a Shonen Jump Musou.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Bebpo on December 19, 2013, 12:22:15 PM
Too many licenses, some held by other companies like Naruto & Bleach.

Also decreases the licenses they can use for seperate musou series over the years.  A lot of these manga have enough characters for 2-3 musou games as is.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Mr. Gundam on December 19, 2013, 12:48:44 PM
Too many licenses, some held by other companies like Naruto & Bleach.

Also decreases the licenses they can use for seperate musou series over the years.  A lot of these manga have enough characters for 2-3 musou games as is.

Bandai managed to get them all in for the upcoming Jump fighting game, so it doesn't seem like it would be a problem. I personally don't have an interest in the game myself, just figured it would probably do well.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Bebpo on December 19, 2013, 01:15:42 PM
I dunno, I think any license from Koei would have to license from Jump & Bandai because bandai holds so many licenses.  Not sure it'd be worth it.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on December 19, 2013, 01:17:29 PM
The Chinese version of Dynasty Warriors 8+XL is out for PS4.  Being streamed here: http://www.twitch.tv/lizardman19
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Bebpo on December 19, 2013, 01:24:49 PM
Looks clean, looks PS3, can't tell framerate from stream.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on December 19, 2013, 02:41:50 PM
Archive: http://www.twitch.tv/lizardman19/b/488588821
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on December 19, 2013, 02:43:07 PM
Looks clean, looks PS3, can't tell framerate from stream.

I see little extra effects and stuff like footprints being left in the snow, but yeah it's what one would expect from a Koei port up.  Reminds me of the PS2-to-360 ports they used to do.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on December 19, 2013, 04:41:20 PM
Gundam finally came in.  Fedex late as fuck WHAT THE HELL.

Anyway, just had enough time to load it up and confirm that there's no major framerate issues on Vita.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: MoxManiac on December 19, 2013, 07:17:39 PM
Is it 60fps on PS4?
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on December 19, 2013, 07:33:40 PM
Haha. Told you, Mox. Why'd you sweat? :heh
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on December 19, 2013, 07:46:07 PM
never saw this opening for dw8xl but holy shit

http://youtu.be/4GWQQcQQh3g
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on December 19, 2013, 11:57:50 PM
Very impressed with Shin Gundam Musou's performance on Vita.  The framerate is very stable and shits all over the DW8 port.  No compressed sound quality issues either.

(http://i.imgur.com/pMP6pmL.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/Szf8FPZ.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/XWGsu3d.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/G0ss2Wn.jpg)
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on December 20, 2013, 12:18:52 AM
Also, this game has a partner system.  When you go into hyper mode, your character will do his/her musou, and then your partner will appear in his/her mobile suit to wreak more havoc.  You have control over the partner character during this time.  Was surprised to see that there's no limit to size on this- you can even have a giant spaceship come down and reign down all over the place!   :lol

Did any of the previous Gundam Musous use this system?  It's similar to One Piece Pirate Warriors 2.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: pancakesandsex on December 20, 2013, 12:22:55 AM
Also, this game has a partner system.  When you go into hyper mode, your character will do his/her musou, and then your partner will appear in his/her mobile suit to wreak more havoc.  You have control over the partner character during this time.  Was surprised to see that there's no limit to size on this- you can even have a giant spaceship come down and reign down all over the place!   :lol

Did any of the previous Gundam Musous use this system?  It's similar to One Piece Pirate Warriors 2.

They did not, that's lifted from one piece.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Bebpo on December 20, 2013, 12:56:07 AM
Yeah, they had partner system like your buddies are running around the map with you and you can do powered up musous in conjunction with them, but that sounds like One Piece Musou 2 system for sure.  Which is cool, I like that system.

Glad to hear it runs well on Vita.  Could be fun to have a portable musou. Graphically it looks like it took a big downgrade from the console version.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on December 20, 2013, 09:56:21 AM
Yeah, they had partner system like your buddies are running around the map with you and you can do powered up musous in conjunction with them, but that sounds like One Piece Musou 2 system for sure.  Which is cool, I like that system.

Glad to hear it runs well on Vita.  Could be fun to have a portable musou. Graphically it looks like it took a big downgrade from the console version.

PS3 shot below.  Looks like the backgrounds took the biggest hit, unless I just haven't gotten to a stage like this yet. 
(http://cdn2.dualshockers.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/19-shin-gundam-musou-7.jpg)
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on December 20, 2013, 11:12:20 AM
(http://gematsu.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/DW8-XL-PS4-PS3-Compare-Ruliweb_001.jpg)
(http://gematsu.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/DW8-XL-PS4-PS3-Compare-Ruliweb_002.jpg)
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on December 20, 2013, 01:42:15 PM
Some good Gundam impressions from GameFAQs:

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Since my copy arrived earlier than I expected (I was tempted to give the FedEx guy a tip because he had a huge smile on his face when he knocked on my door--one of the perks of living near FedEX world headquarters), I thought I'd share an initial impression/review of about an hour of gameplay.

For those on the fence about importing, consider this a WAY more polished DW Gundam 3. KT definitely took their time with this, and it shows with the suit models, story modes, and how battles play out.

Each pilot has unlockable skills as they level up, but now the skills can be leveled up too (three levels) with the in-game currency (there's two types: pilot points and team points). Combat's been refined to make the suits more responsive and effective against large mobs starting out, so you won't feel pressured by beam/rocket spam. EDIT--You no longer level up your mobile suit like in DW Gundam 3, but attach better parts to it, and the materials you have determine the parts you can equip.

Official Mode is impressive! I'm currently playing the Unicorn story (since it's my fave series) and it's almost like it was taken exactly from the movies with the exact same scenes, but with narration that bridges over most of each of the episodes. Expect to spend about 2-5 hours clearing each series, depending on whether you rush through it or take your time.

Customization--is VERY simple. As you fight, you'll get plans from defeated suits. The options are easy to understand, as each part you get SHOWS you what changes from your base suit and EXPLAINS in English the attributes that change as well. Better parts require more materials that you gain from beating levels, so expect to grind for the best stuff. Each suit has a list of it's weapons (in Japanese), and so far I'm not sure if you can switch out weapons with others (i.e. Beam Rifle with Beam Magnum).

Gameplay/Combat: Like DW Gundam 3, you can have a partner assist you in battle, but now they help you through combined musou attacks instead of various perks like giving you funnels or having the Satellite Cannon blast enemies near you. I'm hoping the favorite partner feature isn't like the previous games where you have to worry about being liked or disliked by other characters you meet (you can have up to five favorite partners and one dedicated partner for battle).

Music: Notable theme remixes from flagship series such as "Within the Flash (Zeta)", "Unicorn, Mobile Suit, Mad-Nug, Banshee (Unicorn), "Char's Theme (forgot the name--MSG) along with brand new tunes for this game work really well in the interludes. The custom BGM feature is fairly straight forward, as you can use your own music that's on your PS3 that you set up from the options menu.

Characters/Mobile Suits: I'm already surprised at the Mobile Suit Variation include (in the gallery, you can see the unlocked characters, suits, music, and famous scenes from each series), even if it's only one person (I haven't downloaded Bearguy yet).

***For the Gundam Wing fans--There's seven characters that are in-game (not sure if just playable or operator only--(i.e. Relina), so counting the Operation Meteor pilots, that's all of them along with Zechs/Milliardo and Treiz.

Thankfully, there's quite a few characters for ZZ Gundam (9), only two for Victory, five for Turn A, two for X, and that's all I can remember at the moment.

Anyhow, overall, this is definitely the best DW Gundam game in a LONG time and runner-up for best of the year (between this and Gundam Breaker).

EDIT--The card feature is new. I have no idea what it's for, but I'm guessing that they can be equipped to boost various stats or give you bonuses as you play.

I'll add more stuff as I uncover it, but feel free to ask questions if you're curious!
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on December 20, 2013, 09:36:11 PM
Holy shit. Battle Of Tong Gate in DW8.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on December 21, 2013, 10:27:45 AM
DW8 :obama

Later stages are so fucking baller. I have no clue what they were thinking with those earlier stages. Were straight DOG SHIT.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on December 21, 2013, 11:47:25 AM
Wait until you get to the later stages with starred actions to complete...some of them make shit just get INSANE.   :D

Gundam- still going with Amuro and the old RX-78, or as I like to think of it, Optimus Prime beating the shit out of multiple Shockwaves.   :P  Love the launcher/air-combo system that he has and hope everyone gets something similar as they level up.  I'm not much of a Gundam fan, but this game is just awesome.  Love how polished the game play/performance is, especially after DW8's framerate fluctuation issues.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on December 22, 2013, 12:07:22 PM
Cleared the original Gundam scenario.  There was a bonus side-stage where you play a previous level as Zabi in his massive mobile suit.  Was kind of boring since all it can do is kick and shoot a laser.   :P

Just noticed that the Omega Force logo is nowhere to be found in this game.  Holy shit...did a "B Team" do a better job of getting one of these games running on Vita than they have?!   :o
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: mjemirzian on December 22, 2013, 01:55:23 PM
DW8 PS4/Vita is confirmed for NA and Europe. (http://www.playstationlifestyle.net/2013/12/19/dynasty-warriors-8-xtreme-legends-coming-to-ps4-ps3-ps-vita-in-spring-2014/)

Anyone know how it runs on PS4?
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: pancakesandsex on December 23, 2013, 10:21:53 AM
DW8 :obama

Later stages are so fucking baller. I have no clue what they were thinking with those earlier stages. Were straight DOG SHIT.

I think the problem is that every time you play story mode, it's essentially designed as if it were your first DW.  I think they need to scale back the tutorial-ness though.  One stage per kingdom is more than enough.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on December 23, 2013, 10:36:39 AM
DW8 PS4/Vita is confirmed for NA and Europe. (http://www.playstationlifestyle.net/2013/12/19/dynasty-warriors-8-xtreme-legends-coming-to-ps4-ps3-ps-vita-in-spring-2014/)

Anyone know how it runs on PS4?

Old news, check the last few pages, etc. etc.

The game was being streamed last week:

Archive: http://www.twitch.tv/lizardman19/b/488588821
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on December 23, 2013, 10:37:22 AM
DW8 :obama

Later stages are so fucking baller. I have no clue what they were thinking with those earlier stages. Were straight DOG SHIT.

I think the problem is that every time you play story mode, it's essentially designed as if it were your first DW.  I think they need to scale back the tutorial-ness though.  One stage per kingdom is more than enough.

There's no need for this anyway- DW8 has a tutorial mode already!  :dead
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on December 26, 2013, 11:52:51 AM
http://gematsu.com/2013/12/samurai-warriors-4-character-gameplay

:drool
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on December 26, 2013, 08:41:24 PM
So glad we still have musou strings. Fuck the haters. Some of Oda's moves have been nerfed but damn does he look sexy to play as.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on December 27, 2013, 12:52:06 AM
mox i told you stop worrying

https://twitter.com/koinuma_p/status/415605459576303617
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on January 14, 2014, 12:30:09 PM
Money-Hat Magazine has 'reviewed' Sengoku Basara 4: 9/9/9/8 [35/40].

The game comes out next week!  Who's getting it? HIMUS IS U WIT' ME?
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on January 14, 2014, 12:33:47 PM
Naw I'm still waiting for FFX HD from play Asia. Shit is ridic. I'll import Basara 4 by year end tho. Looks amazing. :drool
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on January 14, 2014, 12:46:09 PM
Naw I'm still waiting for FFX HD from play Asia. Shit is ridic. I'll import Basara 4 by year end tho. Looks amazing. :drool

Why would you order FFX HD, which is coming out here in March, over a game that has little chance of coming here?   ???

(http://i.imgur.com/SWxyN.gif)
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on January 14, 2014, 01:04:35 PM
To practice Japanese on it. I've played FFX about three times and X-2 three times. I know the story and I know the dialogue. This makes easier to understand. Versus Basara 4 which is uncharted land are far more challenging.  Plus, I was going to get FFX HD anyways and doing this breathes new life into the game. I don't want to play FFX the same way the fourth time. This time it'll be different.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on January 14, 2014, 04:04:14 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/Pl3Xz.gif)

Seriously, I think Basara would be waaaaaay easier to practice on than a huge RPG.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on January 14, 2014, 06:53:47 PM
What about the kanji? Game that take place in that era tend to be kanji oriented and I'm still not there yet.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Mr. Gundam on January 14, 2014, 06:59:16 PM
Both are gonna be kanji heavy, but Basara is way less text heavy in comparison.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on January 14, 2014, 10:44:12 PM
Basara is going to be way easier to do some translation stuff with than FFX will be.  Are you really going to spend hours and hours translating video game text on-screen?  That would drive me insane.  Would be way easier to do with comics or something.  But then I think we've had this discussion before, haven't we?  I'm not up on what you're trying to do here- have you been learning the spoken language or just memorizing kanji?
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on January 15, 2014, 04:18:04 PM
Hype has gotten to me- ordered the Sengoku Basara HD Collection from Amazon.  It's pretty awesome being able to buy an import game without any real markups like that.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on January 15, 2014, 06:11:31 PM
Fuck it. I ordered FFX HD almost three weeks ago. It still hasn't shipped.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on January 15, 2014, 06:15:22 PM
The problem Lyte, is that you assume I am a Basara fan. I'm not. I've only played 3 and think it is pretty good. But I'm not really attached though 4 looks great. I will be spending 80 dollars on risk. I do not like playing with risk. I have played FFX and X-2 and am familiar with FF item names, weapon names;etc. On the other hand, I am not a Basara fan. You should be convincing me to buy Basara 4 for 80 dollars and not saving it for Sengoku Musou 4.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on January 15, 2014, 06:41:04 PM
Watching a 24 minute Basara 4 vid. The claim that Basara has less kanji is bullshit. Especially since FFX/X-2 have a shit load (ie. MOST) of items in katakana. FFX menus are in full katakana. Basara 4 menus, I see kanjikanjikanjikanji.

lol Fuck this. Basara is at least high school/college level especially since it's a period game with crazier kanji. FF is for middle schoolers.

FF it is.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on January 15, 2014, 07:25:56 PM
The problem Lyte, is that you assume I am a Basara fan. I'm not. I've only played 3 and think it is pretty good. But I'm not really attached though 4 looks great. I will be spending 80 dollars on risk. I do not like playing with risk.

THIS IS FOR THE GREATER MUSOU GOOD I THOUGHT YOU UNDERSTOOD THIS VISION   :gun :punch :punch

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I have played FFX and X-2 and am familiar with FF item names, weapon names;etc.

Right- so what's the point in importing the game then?  You're "cheating" by being familiar with the content and I'd be surprised if you actually commit to trying to translate the game story as you go along.  You still haven't answered my question, either- have you been studying the actual language or just memorizing kanji/kana?

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On the other hand, I am not a Basara fan. You should be convincing me to buy Basara 4 for 80 dollars and not saving it for Sengoku Musou 4.

Nah, I can't do that until I play it for myself and see how I like it after the year of [Koei] musou that was 2013.  At work there's a dude who loves musou games but never imports them- he told me already pre-ordered SB4, because it's just (sadly that obvious that this game has little chance of coming out here.  Out of all these games (FF, Basara, Sengoku), this is easily the one to import for that very reason.

Watching a 24 minute Basara 4 vid. The claim that Basara has less kanji is bullshit. Especially since FFX/X-2 have a shit load (ie. MOST) of items in katakana. FFX menus are in full katakana. Basara 4 menus, I see kanjikanjikanjikanji.

lol Fuck this. Basara is at least high school/college level especially since it's a period game with crazier kanji. FF is for middle schoolers.

FF it is.

Dude.  Think about how much shorter Basara is going to be than freaking FINAL FANTASY.  There's way less to translate here.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on January 15, 2014, 07:36:41 PM
Good. More vocab. I won't be learning shit while I play Basara. Action is too quick, dialogue pops up too fast. When I look up words, don't want to have to deal with this.

How is it cheating by doing something you're familiar with? :what I'm familiar with DQ1. I've beaten it multiple times. 冒 was one of the first vocab and kanji I learned. When I started DQ1, I was greeted with ぼうけんのしょをつくる。 I knew that 冒 (bouken) meant risk, but I didn't know that it also meant adventure. A quick question thrown to Oscar and a tour through my mobile dictionary solved that pretty quickly. It was the first vocab word I learned from a Japanese video game, in a game I've beaten multiple times. With 'adventure' out of the way, I could quickly solve that combined with tsukuru - which is to create - it mean Create New Adventure, something I'm very familiar with in the English versions of DQ. Nay, sources you're familiar with are the best language learning sources.

And since I'm familiar with Musou and RGG, I'm importing that Sengoku Musou 4 and Ryu Ga Gotoku: Ishin. I'll get Basara 4 when it hits The Best and I have a better handle on the language.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on January 16, 2014, 08:18:41 AM
Good. More vocab. I won't be learning shit while I play Basara. Action is too quick, dialogue pops up too fast. When I look up words, don't want to have to deal with this.

Er...of course.  You would be looking them up on menus and between levels.  Are you really going to sit there with a what....40+ hour RPG like FFX and constantly look stuff up?  Can you even pause the dialogue when the characters are speaking?  It's been so long since I played that game that I don't remember.

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How is it cheating by doing something you're familiar with? :what

"Cheating" because you're already familiar with so much of it.  But that's just me.  I still don't get why you aren't practicing by translating manga or something, but whatever.  Back to musou.

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And since I'm familiar with Musou and RGG, I'm importing that Sengoku Musou 4 and Ryu Ga Gotoku: Ishin. I'll get Basara 4 when it hits The Best and I have a better handle on the language.

You totally don't need any kind of handle on Japanese to play Sengoku Basara games.  You just aren't hyped for it.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Trent Dole on January 16, 2014, 10:09:26 AM
Himu y u no put yr guns on :japancry
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Mr. Gundam on January 16, 2014, 10:11:44 AM
I still don't get why you aren't practicing by translating manga or something, but whatever.  Back to musou.

Plus Japanese manga is crazy cheap.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Rufus on January 16, 2014, 11:21:56 AM
For free if you download raw scans. :larry
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on January 16, 2014, 12:09:13 PM
 :mynicca
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on January 16, 2014, 01:57:46 PM
I imported Yotsubato and Dragonball manga volumes from Yes Asia months ago. I'm still going to get FFX/X-2 HD. Win-win. Who cares.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on January 16, 2014, 03:34:51 PM
You're not getting Sengoku Basara 4.

U LOSE, HIMU CHAN
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: magus on January 16, 2014, 03:48:41 PM
You're not getting Sengoku Basara 4.

U LOSE, HIMU CHAN

does this have sorin and/or mogami? if this doesn't have sorin and/or mogami i see no reason anybody would play this

EDIT: oh fuck it does :o
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on January 17, 2014, 01:42:42 PM
Went back to Basara yesterday.

Tried SB2 and SB2 Heroes on the HD Collection first.  They run great-- everything is widescreen apart from in-game cut scenes and CG movies.  The latter I understand, but not the former.  Makes no sense when those cut scenes are already in a letterboxed 16:9 format.   :dizzy  But the game play definitely feels dated now.  A bit too simplistic.  Still offers a nice challenge on hard mode.

Then I played some SB3 Utage.  It still holds up nicely after so much Koei musou.  Took a bit to get used to the game play differences (SB being more free-form in everything and Koei games feeling more 'rigid', with set chains), but was having a blast again playing on hard.  I really did not play enough of this version of the game- Only a handful of characters were leveled-up.   :-[

I just hope that SB4 has its own identity and doesn't end up feeling like another SB3 update.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on January 22, 2014, 08:58:55 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5wKltYwjc7A#t=203

 :mouf
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on January 22, 2014, 10:15:40 PM
OH MY GOD!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Trent Dole on January 22, 2014, 11:43:01 PM
So much murder. :hyper :hyper :hyper
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: pancakesandsex on January 23, 2014, 01:28:35 PM
Looks like most the DW8 dlc is already downloadable on the psvita.  Can't get the game yet, but it's good to know that it's gonna be cross buy.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Mr. Gundam on January 23, 2014, 01:39:19 PM
Basara 4 is out this week in Japan, right?
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on January 24, 2014, 02:55:17 PM
Basara 4 is out this week in Japan, right?

Yup, got my copy today!
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on January 24, 2014, 02:56:47 PM
Looks like most the DW8 dlc is already downloadable on the psvita.  Can't get the game yet, but it's good to know that it's gonna be cross buy.

Really?  Maybe it will come out sooner than expected.  Might hold off on importing the PS4 version on 2/22 then.

And I have to warn everyone again about DW8 XL on Vita- it suffers from HORRENDOUS framerate issues.  Unbelievably bad. Only purchase if you have to have DW8 on the go no matter what.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: MoxManiac on January 24, 2014, 04:51:59 PM
Been playing a lot of One Piece 2, it really is a great musou title. But as someone who is completely unfamiliar with OP, it has been a surreal and jarring experience. I can only imagine what kind of drugs the creators were on when creating the characters.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on January 24, 2014, 04:59:32 PM
"One Piece" actually refers to the pill the artist took when he came up with it.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on January 24, 2014, 05:20:04 PM
Been playing a lot of One Piece 2, it really is a great musou title. But as someone who is completely unfamiliar with OP, it has been a surreal and jarring experience. I can only imagine what kind of drugs the creators were on when creating the characters.

It isn't surreal or jarring when you're familiar with the characters. The games story is basically fan fiction. So it is a bunch a random events that dont make sense even to a vet like me.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: MoxManiac on January 24, 2014, 07:16:02 PM
I dunno, no amount of familiarity would prepare me for Ivankov.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on January 24, 2014, 09:38:07 PM
Think Freddie mercury meets rocky horror picture show.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: MoxManiac on January 24, 2014, 11:51:53 PM
...Meets M.O.D.O.K.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Yulwei on January 25, 2014, 02:13:24 AM
What is the best Musou game?

What is the best Basara game?
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on January 25, 2014, 10:25:02 AM
What is the best Musou game?

What is the best Basara game?

My favorite musou is Musou Orochi 2 Ultimate (Warriors Orochi 3 Ultimate).  Love the massive character roster and guest character line up.  Ultimate isn't out in English yet.

The best Basara is the just-released Sengoku Basara 4, easily.  They have definitely improved it over SB3.  It isn't a huge leap visually, but there's more enemy variety, crazier stages, and more moves/customization added.  This is a weird thing to praise, but I LOVE the way you go from stage to stage in this game now- I'm playing as Date Masamune, and between stages, it's presented as a real-time third-person view on him riding his horse, while he gets reports of other battles/alliances that are going on in Japan- complete with mini real time cut scenes to show this!  It's so much nicer than just a typical map.

You can get the entire (mainline) Basara series on PS3, BTW.  1, 2, and 2 Heroes are in the SB Collection, followed by 3, 3 Utage, and now 4.  Same with Musou Orochi, since Musou Orochi Z is an "HD Collection" with the first two games.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on January 25, 2014, 11:52:38 AM
What is the best Musou game?

What is the best Basara game?

Warriors Orochi 3.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Yulwei on January 25, 2014, 02:00:22 PM
Ahh Orochi 3 eh? Good thing, I've been waiting for ultimate to come out before picking it up.

Do you need to know much Japanese to play the Basara games? I was just looking at some SB4 gameplay vids and it looks crazy good as well
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Mr. Gundam on January 25, 2014, 03:15:49 PM
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/614ib9H8r%2BL._SL500_300_.jpg)(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/61Kg4HVr8UL._SL500_300_.jpg)(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/61PevlKk6ML._SL500_300_.jpg)

All you need right there.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on January 25, 2014, 05:45:27 PM
Do you need to know much Japanese to play the Basara games? I was just looking at some SB4 gameplay vids and it looks crazy good as well

You don't need to know Japanese to play any of these games, really.  You will obviously miss out on dialogue if that matters to you though.

Sengoku Basara 4 has already gotten all of its menus and item names translated.

You can find everything you need here (http://www.raindropsanddaydreams.co.uk/2013/11/sengokubasara4guide.html) and here (http://pastebin.com/pLt32HBG).

(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/614ib9H8r%2BL._SL500_300_.jpg)(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/61Kg4HVr8UL._SL500_300_.jpg)(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/61PevlKk6ML._SL500_300_.jpg)

All you need right there.

And unlike the Koei musou games, Basara games get different stories and locations in each game. 

SB3 Utage doesn't have the story mode stuff from SB3 though.  It's very much a companion game to SB3, like Heroes was to SB2.

As for what's missing here, there's Basara X, which was a 2D fighting game developed by Arc System Works for Capcom (got a PS2 port), and the two PSP Basara games, which were more like Gundam Vs. Gundam with a SB skin than Sengoku Basara.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on January 25, 2014, 05:55:23 PM
Well, he's new to Musou, so bringing up that Musou games don't use as MANY new locations - while also suggesting Warriors Orochi which has a totally different take on traditional Musou stages - is irrelevant and quite stupid since he won't know either way.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on January 25, 2014, 07:11:14 PM
Warriors Orochi 3 is the best Musou by far.

In my opinion, it is the ultimate realization of Musou games.  Huge amounts of characters, lots of stages that are large and epic in scope (the Joan of Arc stage is my favorite), lots of ways to rack up high KO counts, and lots of unlockables but if you opt to just play through the game without exploring those secret stages, it is still a huge game.

As a heads up, the PS3 version is download only.  The Wii U and 360 versions are available on disc for about $30.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on January 25, 2014, 07:12:47 PM
The Joan of Arc stage is fucking amazing. WO3 stage design :lawd

Also, if you want a boxed WO3 you can import from Europe for ps3.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on January 25, 2014, 11:47:36 PM
SB4.  Man.

Capcom, why did I doubt you?  This game is too fucking good.  They just built on SB3 and added more moves, weapon customization/leveling/fusion, and continued to to give us crazy stages and enemies to fight.  Enemies can now group and attack you in various formations too, like building a human pyramid or turning themselves into giant spinning wheels.   :lol  There's also more enemy variety per stage.

Played one of Ii Naotora's routes, going the "drama" path, once.  She has a large sword and plays slower than most other characters.  At first she seemed pretty limited, but then you quickly earn her unique ability, which lets you use R1 as an attack modifier, effectively doubling her moveset.  I was doing crazy custom combos all over the place! 

Next up was Shima Saikon.  I'm not the biggest fan of his design -his outfit is a bit too revealing for my tastes and would look better on a female, but hey, this is BASARA- This dude is INSANE.  He also has what amounts to two movesets, which you can access by pressing R1 to switch stances (blades and a more kick-oriented style), and the kick style reminds me very much of a Kenshiro/Rei Fist Of The North Star fusion.  You can do a lot of his stuff in the air too, so there's a lot of juggling and air combos going on.

The only mistake I've made so far was trying out one of the game modifiers-- I equipped an item that makes all the enemies' health bars regenerate.  If you beat them, you get more money than usual, but it made one of the stages I played completely impossible...my level was too low to beat one of the sub-generals and advance to the next area of the stage.  I forgot that I had equipped this item and was going crazy wondering why I couldn't make a dent in this enemy's armor.    :lol

This is also the first SB game with DLC.  Currently there's two Date Masamune outfits (one came with the game) up; one of them is a DMC1 Dante outfit.  Had to buy it!

Absolutely having a blast playing this.  I like it so much more than SB3. 
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on January 25, 2014, 11:49:43 PM
Mitsunari is getting a Vergil outfit.   :)
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Yulwei on January 25, 2014, 11:51:22 PM
Damn... now you got me hyped for this series... !
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on January 26, 2014, 12:51:14 AM
Damn... now you got me hyped for this series... !

It's a hell of a lot of fun.  They're really getting pretty creative with the character designs and attacks now.  Lots of crazy shit all over the place!   :lol

Let me try to sum these games up for you.  The biggest differences between Capcom's Sengoku Basara series and Koei's Musou games are that the Koei games typically take place on large, open battlefields and there's tons of stuff going on.  You'll be running all over the map and might have to quickly go from one point to another to stop an enemy's movements or to trigger an event.  Game play is more chain combo like.  Depending on the series you try, you'll have either single characters with weapons they can switch between, dashes/dodges instead of jumps, and teams instead of single characters.

Sengoku Basara, on the other hand, has generally smaller stages and progression is more like traditional beat-em-ups, generally feeling more linear (although depending on the stage, you might also be running all over the place), with locked areas that open after you clear a boss or all of the enemies out.  Game play is more open and free form, with actual Street Fighter-style special  moves (although these are just done with a button or two button press or forward and a button press).  SB4 features at least five special moves per character, three super moves, and a bodyguard who you can command to attack or team up with to unleash an incredibly powerful dual super move with.  To do this, all your meters must be full, and the game then goes into this black and white beyond-SF4 style ink and paint sequence with shit just going nuts.  I one hit killed a stage boss using this attack.

 Like I said earlier, Koei games typically retell the same story over and over again and feature the same locations, but that's not to say that they're exactly the same.  The way everything is presented and the stage designs are of course different each time.    Sengoku Basara changes everything up from each game with new stories.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Mr. Gundam on January 26, 2014, 02:27:51 PM
I was kinda iffy on getting SB4 in April, but now it's definitely on my shopping list.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on January 26, 2014, 04:27:59 PM
SB4 is also improved, graphically, over SB3 (I usually game on a 23" monitor- hooked the PS3 up to my 42" HDTV and was surprised at how clean the picture looked), although it does still the problem where regular enemy NPCs have noticeably less-detailed faces and no mouth movement when speaking.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on January 27, 2014, 09:25:28 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iRWj73ws3RE
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on February 07, 2014, 10:10:35 AM
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Dynasty Warriors 8: Xtreme Legends Complete Edition for PlayStation 4 and PS Vita, and Dynasty Warriors 8: Xtreme Legends for PlayStation 3 will launch simultaneously across North America on March 25 and Europe on April 4, Tecmo Koei announced.
Read more at http://gematsu.com/2014/02/dynasty-warriors-8-xtreme-legends-release-date-set#CyPI51z0lyQpOJ5I.99

Pretty speedy release this time around.  I'm tempted to just wait instead of importing the PS4 version in two weeks. 

Hmm...
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Mr. Gundam on February 07, 2014, 11:38:43 AM
That's fast. Wonder if Shin Gundam Musou will see a retail release or just digital?
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: MoxManiac on February 07, 2014, 12:29:21 PM
They probably want to get it out before summer since either Orochi 3 Ultimate or SW4 will release around that time...I hope.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Mr. Gundam on February 07, 2014, 01:05:12 PM
They probably want to get it out before summer since either Orochi 3 Ultimate or SW4 will release around that time...I hope.

The first three were always Summer releases outside Japan.

Doesn't really matter to me, though. I've got the Japanese version.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on February 20, 2014, 09:50:01 AM
tres fab  :lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cmqH38wtZ0Y
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on February 20, 2014, 09:51:31 AM
goty
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on February 20, 2014, 09:52:33 AM
I still have the import DW8XL pre-ordered at Play-Asia, but I really just want to play Sengoku Musou 4 at this point.  Emailed Play-Asia to ask what was up with the release date (PS4 releases this Saturday in TEH NIPPON) and got a somewhat rude "we don't know, be patient and we'll tell you later nerdo" kind of response back from.  It's pretty obvious at this point that it's not coming early though.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: demi on February 25, 2014, 12:55:38 PM
Dynasty Warriors Gundan Reborn coming to PSN digital this summer - physical in Europe
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on February 25, 2014, 12:59:17 PM
Got DW8XL for PS4 today.  DAT NEXT-GEN MUSOU!   :o

(Not really...and this is yet another game I got on PS4 that's just a port-up.  I have one game, KZ Shadowfall, that isn't also on PS3.  :lol )

Here's Vin Diesel demoing the game.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IEABK1YmucI

Dynasty Warriors Gundan Reborn coming to PSN digital this summer - physical in Europe

Let me guess...PS3-only in English, too?
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on February 25, 2014, 08:22:00 PM
OMG so many enemy NPCs on the field all at once.  It's so beautiful!   :o :'( :D
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: MoxManiac on February 25, 2014, 11:07:11 PM
Yeah, no vita release in the west. Supposedly its scamco's fault.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on February 26, 2014, 12:02:52 AM
Yeah, no vita release in the west. Supposedly its scamco's fault.

Makes sense.  We never got One Piece either.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on February 28, 2014, 11:24:09 AM
This video shows the differences in DW8XL on PS3 and PS4. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQjCMimGzg8
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on February 28, 2014, 11:54:15 AM
That's a big graphical upgrade for me, surprisingly. Better lighting, shaders, and effects really make the ps4 version a beaut. Can't wait for the Samurai Warriors 4 up port.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on February 28, 2014, 12:07:27 PM
Why am I the only one here to think this Pang De cutscene is the best cutscene?

It's amazing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ofWlt7I4zQY

1:41

Best cutscene ever. He drops the coffin and this badass rock music plays. And I'm just :dead by that time.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on February 28, 2014, 12:45:07 PM
That's a big graphical upgrade for me, surprisingly. Better lighting, shaders, and effects really make the ps4 version a beaut.

The biggest thing going from PS3 to PS4 is just seeing the number of enemies on screen at the same time.  It's so awesome to FINALLY have no pop-in issues.

Can't wait for the Samurai Warriors 4 up port.

:drool

I really, really should be waiting on this because you know it's inevitable, but I just can't.   :lol :-[

Speaking of which, some more videos popped-up, showing some alternate costumes.  I really like the stage music. 


spoiler (click to show/hide)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GO_UAlyJtMM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CbtU6NxKLqs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zhE4vH7mt5I
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kSPWyKFq7X8
[close]

The very end of Nene's video is  :lol.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on February 28, 2014, 12:56:37 PM
Fuck YES. Those SW4 vids are perfect. Stage music and enemy numbers are great. No huge DW enemy numbers! WOOT WOOT! YES!!!! :hyper

Why aren't there any Sengoku Musou 4 vids on youtube. Didn't this come out 8 days ago? I want to look at a full stage.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on February 28, 2014, 05:38:18 PM
Fuck YES. Those SW4 vids are perfect. Stage music and enemy numbers are great. No huge DW enemy numbers! WOOT WOOT! YES!!!! :hyper

Why aren't there any Sengoku Musou 4 vids on youtube. Didn't this come out 8 days ago? I want to look at a full stage.

No dude, it comes out on 3/20.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on February 28, 2014, 05:41:56 PM
Oh.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on March 02, 2014, 09:36:39 PM
Just pre-ordered SM4 for Vita only.  Hope the port is good and doesn't end up with the framerate problems that DW8XL has.

Will probably end up giving in and getting it on PS3 later, but for now I'm double-dipping on J-Stars Victory Vs. instead, since it doesn't seem to have cross-play.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on March 02, 2014, 09:54:30 PM
Importing SM4.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on March 02, 2014, 10:25:19 PM
I'm waiting for the inevitable PS4 port.

On another note, I think I'm finally tired of playing Warriors Orochi 3.  This is the third go around and I'm starting to get bored halfway.  I must have put over 100 hours into it between all of the playthroughs so no big deal but I'm waiting for DW8XL for PS4 in the next three weeks.  Can't wait!  :hyper
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on March 02, 2014, 11:04:53 PM
I'm waiting for the inevitable PS4 port.

That's the big reason why I'm trying to hold off, although it probably won't come out until an XL version in the late fall.

Quote
On another note, I think I'm finally tired of playing Warriors Orochi 3.  This is the third go around and I'm starting to get bored halfway.  I must have put over 100 hours into it between all of the playthroughs so no big deal but I'm waiting for DW8XL for PS4 in the next three weeks.  Can't wait!  :hyper

Three times?  Holy shit, dude.  Do you mean you've replayed it multiple times, or do you mean different versions? 

I powered through Ultimate last year, to get to the new stages...and then burned out.   :lol  I need to go back to it already.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on March 04, 2014, 01:21:53 PM
I'm waiting for the inevitable PS4 port.

That's the big reason why I'm trying to hold off, although it probably won't come out until an XL version in the late fall.

Quote
On another note, I think I'm finally tired of playing Warriors Orochi 3.  This is the third go around and I'm starting to get bored halfway.  I must have put over 100 hours into it between all of the playthroughs so no big deal but I'm waiting for DW8XL for PS4 in the next three weeks.  Can't wait!  :hyper

Three times?  Holy shit, dude.  Do you mean you've replayed it multiple times, or do you mean different versions? 

I powered through Ultimate last year, to get to the new stages...and then burned out.   :lol  I need to go back to it already.

Once on PS3, once on the Wii U, and a third time on the Wii U when I bought it again.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on March 04, 2014, 01:40:48 PM
 :dizzy
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on March 04, 2014, 01:51:25 PM
Share some of that money.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on March 04, 2014, 02:01:43 PM
I'm much worse.  My Musou madness:

Bought Warriors Orochi 1 (JPS2) -> Sold and bought Warriors Orochi 1 (J360) -> Sold and bought Warriors Orochi 1 (JPSP) -> Bought Warriors Orochi 2 (JPS2) -> Sold and bought Warriors Orochi 2 (J360) -> Sold it and Warriors Orochi 1 (JPSP) and bought Warriors Orochi 2 (JPSP) -> Sold it and bought Warriors Orochi 2 (PSP Digital) > Bought Musou Orochi Z (PS3) -> Bought Warriors Orochi 3 (JPS3) -> Bought Warriors Orochi 3 (360) -> Sold Warriors Orochi 3 (360) -> Bought Warriors Orochi 3 Ultimate (JPS3 and JVita)

:dead

Don't even want to think about how I bought and sold the other games.   :dizzy

My current collection:

Koei:

-Dynasty Warriors 8 (PS3)
-Shin Sangoku Musou 7 With Moushouden (PS4)
-Shin Sangoku Musou 7 With Moushouden (Vita)
-Sengoku Musou 3 (Wii)
-Sengoku Musou 3Z (PS3)
-Warriors Orochi 2 (PSP Digital)
-Musou Orochi Z (PS3)
-Musou Orochi 2 (PS3)
-Musou Orochi 2 Ultimate (PS3)
-Musou Orochi 2 Ultimate (Vita)
-Hokuto Musou (PS3)
-Shin Hokutou Musou (PS3)
-One Piece Kaizoku Musou (PS3)
-One Piece Kaizoku Musou 2 (PS3)
-One Piece Kaizoku Musou 2 (Vita)
-Shin Gundam Musou (Vita)

Note that in Japan, Musou Orochi 2 is Warriors Orochi 3.  The second game was called Musou Orochi Maou Sairin.  Musou Orochi Z is a PS3 compilation of the first two MO games, with the visual enhancements from the 360 versions, additional stages, more enemies on screen, and IIRC 1-2 more characters added to the second game.

Would like to get rid of DW8, SM3 Wii, Shin Hokuto Musou, One Piece 1, and Musou Orochi 2.  DW8 would be no problem but I have no idea who would take the Japanese games.  Suppose I don't really need SM3Z anymore either once SM4 is out.

Capcom:

-Sengoku Basara 2 (PS2)
-Sengoku Basara 2 Heroes (PS2)
-Sengoku Basara Double Pack (Wii)
-Sengoku Basara Battle Heroes (PSP) (Is more like Gundam Vs. Gundam than a musou)
-Sengoku Basara X (PS2) (2D fighting game)
-Sengoku Basara HD Collection (PS3) (SB1, SB2, and SB2 Heroes)
-Sengoku Basara 3 (PS3)
-Sengoku Basara 3 Utage (PS3)
-Sengoku Basara 4 (PS3)

SB2, SB2 Heroes, and SB Double Pack need to go.

Other:

-Senran Kagura Burst (3DS) (2D musou-style game play)
-Senran Kagura Shinovi Versus (Vita) (3D!)
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on March 04, 2014, 02:25:01 PM
You're not much worse. He bought a wii u. Sold it, bought another wii u. Gimma dat payola.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on March 04, 2014, 02:32:38 PM
You're not much worse. He bought a wii u. Sold it, bought another wii u. Gimma dat payola.

Wii U twice?  Oh, that's much worse.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Mr. Gundam on March 04, 2014, 03:39:14 PM
Would like to get rid of DW8, SM3 Wii, Shin Hokuto Musou, One Piece 1, and Musou Orochi 2.  DW8 would be no problem but I have no idea who would take the Japanese games.  Suppose I don't really need SM3Z anymore either once SM4 is out.


Do you have Half Price Books in ATL? I see Japanese games there from time to time.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on March 04, 2014, 04:09:03 PM
Nah, they're not in Atlanta.  There's not even a lot of used bookstores left here.   I think Play-Asia might take imports, but I don't know if they take everything and how much shipping would be.

Last time I went to Japan, I took a bag full of old crap and sold it all off for a few man.  Not sure when I'll be back there again though...those ticket prices.   :o
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on March 04, 2014, 09:47:39 PM
You're not much worse. He bought a wii u. Sold it, bought another wii u. Gimma dat payola.

:fbm

In the defense of myself, I thought Mario 3D World was going to be a really good game.  Had I known it was a B+ title at best, I would have saved my money.

Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on March 04, 2014, 09:50:53 PM
Can't blame you. I rebought a wii to play Mario Galaxy years after selling my wii.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on March 05, 2014, 09:09:52 AM
http://gematsu.com/2014/03/samurai-warriors-4-third-trailers-nationwide-tv-spots

Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on March 06, 2014, 09:44:33 AM
Even more character footage:

http://gematsu.com/2014/03/samurai-warriors-4-character-footage-inahime

These are the two best videos -Yagyu Munenori and Ii Naotora- both characters are from the never-localized second SW Chronicles game on 3DS.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-WlNnWg8gE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUYHkFusYxs

And with that, I caved and added the PS3 version to my pre-order list.   :lol :-\ :-[
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on March 06, 2014, 01:12:53 PM
Lord have mercy. Game looks amazing.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: MoxManiac on March 06, 2014, 07:29:30 PM
I fucking need SW4 right now
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on March 06, 2014, 11:33:26 PM
 :lawd :lawd :lawd

JOIN ME IN THE CULT OF MUSOU, BROTHERS AND SISTERS

:rejoice
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Positive Touch on March 07, 2014, 01:30:49 AM
wheres a cheap place to start
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Rahxephon91 on March 07, 2014, 03:17:16 AM
Hell I'm interested in getting DW8 on PS4. It looks pretty good graphically and well what else is on the system other then FPS?
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on March 07, 2014, 09:27:42 AM
wheres a cheap place to start

Warriors orochi 3 for ps3.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on March 07, 2014, 10:43:53 AM
If we're going to play as Jubei's father, is there a chance we'll play as Jubei in SW4XL? I know the timelines are off but DON'T CARE. :hyper
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on March 07, 2014, 12:34:07 PM
Hell I'm interested in getting DW8 on PS4. It looks pretty good graphically and well what else is on the system other then FPS?

Since you get XL with it, the game content is HUGE.  Definitely a lot of stuff to do and modes to play.  Plus it looks very nice.

wheres a cheap place to start

Warriors orochi 3 for ps3.

Yeah, Warriors Orochi is a good start as it lets you play with a huge amount of characters from Dynasty Warriors and Samurai Warriors, plus extra characters from other games (like Ryu Haybusa).
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on March 13, 2014, 12:19:53 PM
More Sengoku Musou 4 character footage. (http://gematsu.com/2014/03/samurai-warriors-4-character-footage-ishida-nene)

NEXT WEEK!!  :hyper

#CULT OF MUSOU

:rejoice
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on March 17, 2014, 08:50:50 AM
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Dynasty Warriors 8: Xtreme Legends (Dynasty Warriors 8 included) is coming to PC in Japan on May 23 for 7,800 yen, Tecmo Koei announced.

The PC version will feature the same basic content as the console version, but with the ability to freely adjust the graphics quality (including super low). Additionally, Dynasty Warriors 8 and Dynasty Warriors 8: Xtreme Legends‘ free downloadable content, such as additional scenarios and background music, will be included on-disc.

Here are some specs:

    CPU: at least Core2Duo 2.4GHz (Core i7 860 recommended)
    Memory: at least 512MB (1GB recommended)
    Hard-Drive: at least 18GB of free space
    Video Card: at least VRAM256MB (512MB recommended), at least DirectX 9.0c, as well as Pixel Shader 3.0 support and a 3D Accelerator Chip
    Soundboard: One that supports at least DirectX 9.0c
    Gamepad: Supported


Read more at http://gematsu.com/2014/03/dynasty-warriors-8-xtreme-legends-coming-pc#g1OX8dO1Vp6XcXBs.99

Put this on Steam, Koei! :punch
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Trent Dole on March 17, 2014, 11:05:42 AM
:o :o :o :hyper :hyper :hyper
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on March 17, 2014, 11:06:51 AM
Don't get excited. They did the same shit for DW7 and WO3 iirc. Still no steam port because KT are distinguished mentally-challenged
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Trent Dole on March 17, 2014, 11:08:38 AM
Yeah I saw in the comments that they never bothered bringing over 6 and 7's PC ports. :maf
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on March 20, 2014, 09:38:48 AM
Finally found some footage of Samurai Warriors 4 for Vita.

Looks good!  Looks like DW8XL was a fluke.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mr4-FArA44k

Play-Asia shipped my order...hopefully it arrives tomorrow!  :hyper

Playing video games instead of packing for the move on Saturday :rock
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on March 20, 2014, 10:10:05 AM
Vita :zzz Finding ps3 footage.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on March 21, 2014, 09:55:39 AM
:hyper
(http://i.imgur.com/do0emAz.jpg)


Vita :zzz Finding ps3 footage.

NO HIMU U  :punch :punch :punch

PS3 footage is what's been shown for months.  They didn't show anything for Vita, so I was concerned that it was gonna have problems like DW8XL did.

Now I'll be engrossed in Sengoku Musou 4 all over the place.  Cross-save :rock
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on March 21, 2014, 10:41:39 AM
Just tried it briefly on Vita (since I'm in the middle of packing to move tomorrow).  It's an excellent port, to the point that if I knew this for sure I probably would have only have purchased the portable version, but hey, PS3 means it's easy to access DLC and will obviously look better.

Most of the characters are locked out and the game is set up with scenarios similar to Dynasty Warriors 8 now.  Looks and runs awesome.  Was surprised to see that jump is still mapped to X- all those dash moves shown in preview videos are mapped to triangle.

Can't wait to start playing this!
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on March 21, 2014, 11:27:38 AM
SENGOKU MUSOU FOUR

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l43rEUYA7vs

SHIN SANGOKU MUSOU 8 XL COMPLETE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5tHTr7y3PTU

Why isn't complete edition also on ps3
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Mr. Gundam on March 21, 2014, 11:57:14 AM
How's J-Stars? Thinking about picking it up in a couple weeks along with Basara 4 and a bunch of other janky PS3 games.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on March 21, 2014, 02:16:13 PM
Why isn't complete edition also on ps3

I think Japan got it...they just didn't want to bundle DW8+XL together in the U.S. for whatever reason.

How's J-Stars? Thinking about picking it up in a couple weeks along with Basara 4 and a bunch of other janky PS3 games.

It's very similar to Gundam Vs. Gundam.  I haven't had time to play these games yet to really offer any impressions.  Need to kick my own ass and get this packing done and finished already.   :punch :punch
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Mr. Gundam on March 21, 2014, 02:17:35 PM
Why isn't complete edition also on ps3

I think Japan got it...they just didn't want to bundle DW8+XL together in the U.S. for whatever reason.

How's J-Stars? Thinking about picking it up in a couple weeks along with Basara 4 and a bunch of other janky PS3 games.

It's very similar to Gundam Vs. Gundam.  I haven't had time to play these games yet to really offer any impressions.  Need to kick my own ass and get this packing done and finished already.   :punch :punch

Also, does it come with an online pass like Full Boost? Helps when deciding whether to buy new or used over there.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on March 21, 2014, 04:00:15 PM
No online pass needed.  Also note that like the latest GvG, there's a more expensive version...that has extra BGM tracks from the shows.  It's like 3000-4000 yen more, but here's the best part: the game suports custom soundtracks.  :lol

Importers are furious over it. :rofl Suckers.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Mr. Gundam on March 21, 2014, 05:06:32 PM
Full Boost also supports custom soundtracks. The annoying part is you're limited to only so many songs.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on March 23, 2014, 09:23:57 PM
FINALLY got to spend a little time with Sengoku Musou 4 after several days of packing/moving/unpacking.  I was wrong about triangle attacks being completely replaced by the dash attacks-- what they've done is make it so that you get two different attack points to start from, each with its own branching chain attack paths (so regular attacks/combos starting with square, then dashing attacks starting with triangle).

The game allows you two pick characters and swap between them at any time.  The difference between this and Musou Orochi is that your partner is on the battlefield with you and will be off doing his/her own thing, similar to the Chronicles games on the 3DS.  You can stop the game play at any time and pull up a mini map that allows you to command your partner to target a specific point/general on the map.

Sengoku Musou 4 is hands-down the best-looking PS3 musou game yet.  It's bright, colorful, and has the most detailed character models and stages yet.  The framerate stutters here and there, but is otherwise pretty stable on both the PS3 and Vita.  Both games offer the now-stand cross-save option, and now include an option to auto-upload saves to the cloud.

I've only tried the main story mode so far and picked Takeda Shingen's path.  You get six characters to select from the start (went with Sanada Yukimura's big brother, Noboyuki, with Kunoichi as back up) and four stages for this scenario were shown.  Can't wait to play more!
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on March 23, 2014, 09:28:47 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rsy5nUmf8Ho

 :o :o :o
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on March 24, 2014, 09:30:41 AM
Sengoku musou.

The superior musou.

8)

can't wait.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on March 24, 2014, 01:16:52 PM
It's beautiful Himu.  It's so beautiful.   
:uguu
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Trent Dole on March 24, 2014, 05:02:24 PM
Holy shit. Western release when? :hyper
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on March 24, 2014, 05:32:22 PM
Summer.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on March 25, 2014, 08:05:09 AM
Musou MADNESS continues: Musou Orochi 2 Ultimate (Warriors Orochi 3 Ultimate) is coming out for the PS4 this summer!  No new content, but like DW8XL it should look a lot better.
 
Quote
Warriors Orochi 3 Ultimate is coming to PlayStation 4, Tecmo Koei reveals in this week’s issue of Famitsu magazine.

Due out in Japan on June 26 for 6,800 yen at retail and 6,000 yen via download, the PlayStation 4 version can display over 150 soldiers on screen, has improved graphics, lighting, and backgrounds, rebuilt effects, and is cross-save and cross-play compatible with the PlayStation 3 and PS Vita versions.

The game is currently 55 percent complete.

Read more at http://gematsu.com/2014/03/warriors-orochi-3-ultimate-coming-playstation-4#hqrxaxtZWRf0arsw.99

Holy shit. Western release when? :hyper
Summer.

I don't think that's official.  They are beyond slow with these releases in English.   :-\
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on March 25, 2014, 10:05:57 AM
if i havent played dynasty warriors in forever is the one that came out today good
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: MoxManiac on March 25, 2014, 04:33:33 PM
if i havent played dynasty warriors in forever is the one that came out today good

The PS4 version, yes. The PS3 is an expansion pack, so you'd want to get DW8 regular with it if you can't go PS4.

Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Bebpo on March 25, 2014, 10:46:29 PM
Why don't they stop releasing ports and release a new musou concurrently with PS4 version  :maf
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Trent Dole on March 25, 2014, 11:00:15 PM
Expecting effort with Musou games? New to this :poop ain't ya.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on March 26, 2014, 07:58:02 AM
Why don't they stop releasing ports and release a new musou concurrently with PS4 version  :maf

For the same reason that all the other companies released ports to PS4/Xbone.  Not enough users yet.  Might as well go cross-platform/console generation until then.

Come on, this isn't your first rodeo, Bebpo.  Koei did the same thing last gen and started out porting PS2 games to 360.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on March 28, 2014, 09:27:12 AM
WO3 Ultimate PS3 shots. 

(http://www.famitsu.com/images/000/050/499/l_533170a6759f2.jpg)
(http://www.famitsu.com/images/000/050/499/l_533170a5ae42d.jpg)
(http://www.famitsu.com/images/000/050/499/l_533170a4a7b1a.jpg)
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on March 28, 2014, 10:04:30 AM
Sengoku Musou 4 Vita screenshots:

spoiler (click to show/hide)
(http://i.imgur.com/THEq6am.jpg)(http://i.imgur.com/gGis63T.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/9DvPgA4.jpg)(http://i.imgur.com/bstykcG.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/6G6dFD7.jpg)(http://i.imgur.com/HHfjOO2.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/EZVyewp.jpg)(http://i.imgur.com/Mv3FMYd.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/U1XLhy3.jpg)(http://i.imgur.com/lCIN2wq.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/QNL2Ii0.jpg)(http://i.imgur.com/7DRG8n3.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/cW5m5Hz.jpg)(http://i.imgur.com/LhSrVjA.jpg)
[close]

Koshoushou is just so totally FABULOUS and ridiculously out of place.   :lol
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Mr. Gundam on March 28, 2014, 10:52:25 AM
Hey Bork,

How was Basara 4? Worth picking up a used copy?
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on March 28, 2014, 12:17:11 PM
Hey Bork,

How was Basara 4? Worth picking up a used copy?

It's a great game and is right up there with Sengoku Musou 4.  I think I have a preference for Musou's character designs this time around, but Basara's game play still rocks.  Definitely a good pick-up since it has an incredibly low chance of coming out here.  You can probably get the whole series on the cheap at this point (The HD Collection with 1, 2, and Heroes, SB3, and SB3 Utage too!).

Would also recommend adding J-Stars to your shopping list.  Totally going off-topic, but the only one you may want to hold off on is Oneechanbara Kagura Z.  It's supposedly lacking in content since they decided to make a ton of stuff (paid) DLC instead.  I still kind of want it but not for a high price. (EDIT- I see that there is a cheaper re-release coming in April.  Hmm...)
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on March 28, 2014, 12:40:35 PM
WO3 Ultimate PS3 shots. 

(http://www.famitsu.com/images/000/050/499/l_533170a6759f2.jpg)
(http://www.famitsu.com/images/000/050/499/l_533170a5ae42d.jpg)
(http://www.famitsu.com/images/000/050/499/l_533170a4a7b1a.jpg)

it looks beautiful :uguu
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Mr. Gundam on March 28, 2014, 12:49:41 PM


Would also recommend adding J-Stars to your shopping list.  Totally going off-topic, but the only one you may want to hold off on is Oneechanbara Kagura Z.  It's supposedly lacking in content since they decided to make a ton of stuff (paid) DLC instead.  I still kind of want it but not for a high price. (EDIT- I see that there is a cheaper re-release coming in April.  Hmm...)

When's the re-release? Didn't see anything for it on Amazon JP. I'll be over there until the 13th.

I'll probably pick it up if I can find it cheap. I mean, instant gratification as opposed to ordering online and waiting.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on March 28, 2014, 04:11:09 PM
I saw it on P-A.  Didn't have a date listed...just "April."
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Rahxephon91 on March 28, 2014, 06:35:50 PM
Those are shots of the PS4 version.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on March 28, 2014, 06:50:52 PM
i may have to get a ps4 for musou ports

join us Rah.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Bebpo on March 28, 2014, 07:38:42 PM
i may have to get a ps4 for musou ports

join us Rah.

You'll need it for MGS anyhow, come join the family :)
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Rahxephon91 on March 28, 2014, 07:43:06 PM
I thought about getting DW8 on PS4. It looks good and there's not much else on the system right now. I'm not against this genre. I have and liked Sengoku Basra 3, 999 Nights 1/2, and Onichanbara. So I guess there's no reason play the originator of this type of game.

I'll wait till it's under $40.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Bebpo on March 28, 2014, 07:46:13 PM
They're fun but they get boring pretty fast and it's not like the graphics push anything on PS4.

Then again I'm not ashamed to admit that if they ported Shin Gundam Musou to PS4 I'd probably grab it.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on March 28, 2014, 07:50:59 PM
I thought about getting DW8 on PS4. It looks good and there's not much else on the system right now. I'm not against this genre. I have and liked Sengoku Basra 3, 999 Nights 1/2, and Onichanbara. So I guess there's no reason play the originator of this type of game.

I'll wait till it's under $40.

fuck dw8, wait till warriors orochi 3 ultimate ps4.

and bebpo i am not buying mgs5.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Bebpo on March 28, 2014, 07:57:40 PM
I thought about getting DW8 on PS4. It looks good and there's not much else on the system right now. I'm not against this genre. I have and liked Sengoku Basra 3, 999 Nights 1/2, and Onichanbara. So I guess there's no reason play the originator of this type of game.

I'll wait till it's under $40.

fuck dw8, wait till warriors orochi 3 ultimate ps4.

and bebpo i am not buying mgs5.

Why?  It's the best MGS game, best stealth game and best sandbox game in 10+ years.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on March 28, 2014, 08:01:55 PM
You got all that from a 30 dollar demo?
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Bebpo on March 28, 2014, 08:09:37 PM
From 12 hours+ of playing to clear all the objectives on normal mode, aka longer than my first run through MGS1, yeah.  I'm not even talking about PP either, GZ standing on its own is the best MGS in a decade.

GZs has better MGS gameplay than the entirety of MGS4 and better stealth gameplay than anything in the genre in forever.  Also the area in GZ is the best sandbox area I've played in any sandbox game.  There's just so much to do in it and I'm still discovering new things.   It's basically flashbacks to the first time you discovered all of the underlying mechanics, abilities, toys and easter eggs in MGS3.  GZ is MGS3 for this decade and that means PP is likely to be the best MGS*



*not counting story because the story might suck and MGS3's story is pretty hard to beat.  Plus MGS1's story is good too.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on March 29, 2014, 11:33:55 AM
They're fun but they get boring pretty fast

GTFO :punch :P

The great thing about these games is that you can get as much time out of them as you want.  Play through with one or a few characters?  Totally works.  Level like crazy and grind for everything?  You can do that too.  That's why I always enjoy these games.  They're accessible on all levels.

And these games are a way better value than a $30 demo.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on March 29, 2014, 11:37:25 AM
I thought about getting DW8 on PS4. It looks good and there's not much else on the system right now. I'm not against this genre. I have and liked Sengoku Basra 3, 999 Nights 1/2, and Onichanbara. So I guess there's no reason play the originator of this type of game.

I'll wait till it's under $40.

DW8XL is a good game to start with and is absolutely overflowing with content.  Bestsku.com is selling the PS4 version for $45 btw.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on March 29, 2014, 01:14:07 PM
Musou games do not get boring what is this blasphemy talk
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on March 29, 2014, 05:29:52 PM
Musou games do not get boring what is this blasphemy talk

Yes, musou gets boring, but not replaying a demo over and over again for 12 hours.   :dizzy
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on March 31, 2014, 01:31:33 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X5sqBXCthEs&t=11m12s

(http://i.imgur.com/uBjuVOX.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/IFVtAKp.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/JzzFvtq.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/rvA9fla.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/cF5KZZz.jpg)

 :lol :lol :lol :lol
:bow :bow2
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on March 31, 2014, 01:33:13 PM
:rofl
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on March 31, 2014, 02:09:59 PM
btw every vid I'm seeing of SW4 builds my hype. Lower enemy numbers, large stages, missions and sidequests, it's all here! :rejoice
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on April 01, 2014, 10:49:43 AM
Pretty much, although there's still a lot of enemies.  It's fun though, since you can use Shinsoku to clear 'em all out and build up meter super-quick.   8)

I'm still working my way through the story mode.  Cleared the Nobunaga route (eight stages) last night- was surprised that
spoiler (click to show/hide)
you play as his enemies on the last stage.
[close]

Tried the mercenary mode briefly- it has original stages!  :hyper
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on April 02, 2014, 07:55:52 AM
Keep getting my ass kicked on the second stage of the Kinki (Nagamasa) story route.  The star rating isn't even that high, but it's populated by too many damn powerful officers.  Almost beat it last night on the third attempt, then the CPU-controlled Nagamasa got himself killed before I could switch to him and heal.   :'(
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on April 02, 2014, 08:48:11 AM
Sounds amazing.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on April 04, 2014, 09:02:03 PM
I spent some time with DW8XL Complete for PS4.  I never got around to getting DW8 when it originally came out so I don't have much basis to compare.

My verdict: it's ok

+ The best looking Musou game, obviously
+ No slowdown as far as I know of but who knows as I get further into the game
+ Some pretty combos to use that are flashy to mix things up
+ Some pretty good music so far

- No Japanese voices.  I don't care how shitty they were, I hate the English voices for this game.  I kept them to the lowest settings because I found no voices to be weird as well
- For some reason, they stripped a good deal of functionality out of the menus.  I can't exit and go back to the menu whenever I feel like it.  Using the touch pad like a button is a strange decision as well.
- Powerful characters are a bit too powerful.  Having Lu Bu on his horse is extremely difficult to control.  Having been a Musoufag since Dynasty Warriors 3, this is the worst horse controls I've seen in a Musou title.

I'll still play this game to completion of course so I'll update if my impressions of the game change.  If you're not a huge Musoufag and need a Dynasty Warriors fix, it's probably best to skip this one and wait for Samurai Warriors 4.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: archie4208 on April 17, 2014, 08:51:55 AM
https://twitter.com/tecmokoeieurope/status/456775267302637569

DW8XL coming to PC in May.  :omg
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on April 17, 2014, 09:11:06 AM
:pimp
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Trent Dole on April 17, 2014, 12:39:09 PM
Toaster probly won't be able to run  it tho.  :-[
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on April 17, 2014, 12:41:38 PM
YES. FINALLY
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Mr. Gundam on April 17, 2014, 01:07:56 PM
Started Basara 4 last night. The mine cart rail shooter component was unexpected.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on April 17, 2014, 03:16:07 PM
You know, even after all the time I've spent on Basara 4...I never played that minecart level.   :lol  Always picked other stages.   :-[

Toaster probly won't be able to run  it tho.  :-[

Looks like you can scale it pretty low.  They even have options to change the amount of enemies that appear on the screen.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on April 17, 2014, 06:54:44 PM
If you like musou and don't get dw8xl for steam :maf
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Trent Dole on April 17, 2014, 10:30:08 PM
My toaster has a fan in need of replacing and is only 6gb ram man. :badass
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on April 17, 2014, 10:35:12 PM
I only have 4gb ram. You can play PSO2, you can play Musou. I doubt the requirements are that high, this is Dynasty Warriors. These games aren't graphical beasts.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on April 18, 2014, 07:55:52 AM
It will run, Trent.  I can't find the screenshot, but the lowest settings makes the game look worse than these titles did on PS2.   :lol  You can scale it all over the place.

Benchmark: http://www.gamecity.ne.jp/smusou7m/bench/
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on April 18, 2014, 07:58:35 AM
Ah, here we go.

High settings:

(http://www.inside-games.jp/imgs/morezoom/466316.jpg)

Low settings:

(http://www.inside-games.jp/imgs/morezoom/466317.jpg)

It looks like the PS3 version to me- why not use the PS4 version?  But if you can run this at a constant 60 FPS... :drool
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Joe Molotov on April 18, 2014, 08:41:34 AM
:lol @ low settings

Now I have something to play on my Pentium III!
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Trent Dole on April 18, 2014, 01:12:08 PM
Yeah,  I saw those low settings screens. :lol I have to run PSO2 in a 1024 x 600 window for it to not kill my shit.  :-X
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on April 18, 2014, 01:14:42 PM
The low settings version looks like Dynasty Warriors 64 or something.

Wait...too high res for N64 :teehee
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on April 18, 2014, 02:12:33 PM
Fuck yeah. Got 45 fps in the benchmark.

Trent, you need a new computer before you go next gen, buddy. :what
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on April 18, 2014, 02:41:38 PM
We need to get ourselves co-op partners for DW8XL Steam :hyper

A few weeks till the bang!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4GWQQcQQh3g
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Trent Dole on April 18, 2014, 06:38:33 PM
Well I could figure out some more of the bloatware on it and kill that stuff off. But yeah I'll build me a monster someday.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on April 18, 2014, 10:56:00 PM
Sengoku Musou 4 artbook out.

And some of the art is amazing.

Mod-edit: HUGE FUCKIN' PIC
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(http://i.imgur.com/5YRU5fI.jpg)
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Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on April 23, 2014, 01:51:51 AM
I just cannot get over how many new features are in XL.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=egBRDNBBD80

:heart
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on April 23, 2014, 01:18:22 PM
I ordered Oneechanbara Z Kagura With NoNoNo yesterday.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on April 23, 2014, 01:30:35 PM
I just cannot get over how many new features are in XL.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=egBRDNBBD80

:heart

Lots of new stuff, yeah.  I really haven't spent much time at all on XL ('cuz fuckin' Sengoku Musou 4 :rock) and will probably end up dropping the PS4/Vita versions in favor of the PC version at this point.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on April 28, 2014, 01:25:44 PM
Change of plans- transferred my DW8 save data to the cloud..got XL on PS4 and Vita.   :-[ 

Now to see about getting rid of the Japanese versions...
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on April 28, 2014, 05:31:44 PM
I really like this game, which is better than the lukewarm opinion I had on the game at first.  This game has a ton of stages and the stages they do repeat keep it fresh enough to where you're not just wandering around either.  There are so many objections and tasks going on, more than before I believe, that keeps the pace hopping.  It is an OCD thing with me but I still have a hard time dealing with the fact that you can no longer seal off enemy respawn points, so you could be at the end of the level and all of a sudden, at the opposite corner of the map, you see shitloads of enemies pouring out of a respawn point.  In the past Musou games, I'd wipe out every soldier and enemy officer before finishing the stage.  Not the case with this game.

There is a shitload of content in this game and it feels like I got a long way to go.  I'll be playing this one for a while, probably until the inevitable port of Samurai Warriors 4 hits the PS4.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on April 28, 2014, 05:47:12 PM
Are you talking about DW8XL?
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on April 28, 2014, 06:19:41 PM
Yes.  Sorry, should have specified.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on April 29, 2014, 11:56:10 AM
There is a shitload of content in this game and it feels like I got a long way to go.  I'll be playing this one for a while, probably until the inevitable port of Samurai Warriors 4 hits the PS4.

Warriors Orochi 3 Ultimate on PS4 first!  I eagerly wait DAT UPGRADE and will resume playing it in June.

The amount of content some of these recent games have is staggering.  Warriors Orochi 3 Ultimate and DW8XL are definitely at the top of that list. 

I've taken a little break from Sengoku Musou 4 (musou'd out) and will get back to it soon.  Only a few more stages and the story mode is fully-complete...then it's edit mode time.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on April 29, 2014, 12:00:26 PM
I'm not sure what to do.

I'll be getting DW8XLCE on Steam, but I want WO3 and SW4 on ps4. I don't want the inferior versions. I don't have a ps4 yet.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on April 29, 2014, 01:49:19 PM
I may still get DW8XL on PC, too- it depends on how it runs and how quickly people are able to hack a save with all the story crap cleared.  I'd be happy to fuck around in ambition mode.

The PC version doesn't appear to have the visual enhancements that the PS4 version got, but if it's a constant 60 FPS, who gives a shit?  Also to note, the U.S. PS4 version doesn't have the option to remove or tone down the field of view blur, so the game looks like a 1080P N64 game right now.   :-\

And let's clarify-- there is no SW4 on PS4.  I mean, I think it's inevitable that an XL version will be released for PS4, but that's gonna be a long, long time from now if you're planning on waiting for an English version, which may or may not come out.  We never did get SW3Z and Chronicles 2 translated. 
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on April 29, 2014, 01:57:01 PM
There is no SW4 on ps4, but there WILL be SW4 on ps4.

And we are getting SW4. That was confirmed earlier this year.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on April 29, 2014, 02:46:54 PM
And we are getting SW4. That was confirmed earlier this year.

That Twitter?  It's not official.  They haven't confirmed anything other than Gundam right now.  And Hyrule Warriors, of course.  And yes I'm being way too anal about this.   :P
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on April 29, 2014, 02:48:02 PM
 :larry

If they don't announce soon I may have to import.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on April 29, 2014, 10:24:38 PM
Warriors Orochi 3 Ultimate has been rated in Australia.  No platforms named yet.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: MoxManiac on May 03, 2014, 10:19:45 AM
Austrailia is considered the same region as europe right? That's encouraging, that means good chance for a NA as well.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Joe Molotov on May 08, 2014, 08:57:41 PM
http://store.steampowered.com/app/278080/

4 days, 16 hours.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on May 08, 2014, 09:00:19 PM
Someone be my co-op partner.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Trent Dole on May 08, 2014, 11:32:01 PM
Those system reqs :lol They literally dumped the PS3 code to PC didn't they...
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on May 08, 2014, 11:43:09 PM
Dude, those recommended system specs are like...5 years ago, dude. It suggests a GTX 400 when we're up to GTX 800.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on May 09, 2014, 08:02:52 AM
Those system reqs :lol They literally dumped the PS3 code to PC didn't they...

Yup- the Tecmo Koei community guy who said it was the equivalent of the PS4 version is full of shit.  The game is based on the PS3 version, so it will not have the updated visuals, but the trade-off is a potentially-better framerate.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on May 09, 2014, 08:07:43 AM
Quote
Save data from the PlayStation 3 or PS Vita versions of Warriors Orochi 3 Ultimate will unlock additional goodies in the PlayStation 4 version, this week’s Famitsu reveals.

Unlocked bonuses include:

    Unlimited Mode, which tasks a team of five characters with surviving various trials to escape a multitier dungeon, has added three additional scenarios.
    Growth points, stock experience points, and in-game gold presents.
    20 original desktop wallpapers.
    Previous title background music.
    Two of all raw materials obtained in Unlimited Mode.

Additionally, Tecmo Koei announced the game would support viewer comment functionality when live streaming. If a user comments “recover,” a recovery item will appear on the field. And commenting “protect” will damage surrounding enemies with fire and thunder. There are other hidden commands, too.

First-run copies of the PlayStation 4 version will ship with Toukiden-themed character costumes. The game is due out on June 26.

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Following our report from Famitsu earlier this week, Tecmo Koei has released first screenshots of Warriors Orochi 3 Ultimate live streaming from PlayStation 4.

As previously reported, when live streaming, viewers will be able to interact with the player via specific comments. Commenting “protect,” for example, will induce one of five damage types (thunder, wind, ice, fire, or arrow rain) to surrounding enemies. Or by commenting “recover,” viewers can help players in a pinch by dropping a random recovery item on the field.

First-print copies of Warriors Orochi 3 Ultimate for PlayStation 4 will include a set of Toukiden-themed costumes for Kaguya, Taigong Wang, and Nuwa. You’ll also find those pictured.

Read more at http://gematsu.com/2014/05/warriors-orochi-3-ultimate-ps4-streaming-screenshots#OKBOCfzMCjR6cxD4.99

(http://gematsu.com/gallery/albums/warriors-orochi-3-ultimate/may-9-2014/Warriors-Orochi-3-Ultimate_2014_05-09-14_001.jpg)
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on May 09, 2014, 08:36:00 AM
And in Europe, Warriors Orochi 3 Ultimate has popped in up databases for Vita and PS3 only.  No PS4 listing.   :dizzy
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: mjemirzian on May 09, 2014, 08:48:26 AM
I'm going to try my first Dynasty Warriors ever on the Steam version. Didn't really feel like playing on consoles with meh framerates.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on May 09, 2014, 12:00:10 PM
Mj I need a co-op partner. I will help you get through the initial tutorial stages. Interested in seeing your opinions on the end game level design.

I'm going to be doing the story in this order:

Wei > Wu > Shu > Jin > Other > Lu Bu
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on May 09, 2014, 01:50:12 PM
Woah, now.  Don't get ahead of yourself- you gotta wait and see if online co-op isn't totally borked first.   :-\
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on May 11, 2014, 10:24:18 AM
Went back to Sengoku Musou 4 and finished the story mode after a several week hiatus.  Cleared all the story routes in just under 29 hours total.  That was a really, really fun campaign mode!  The last two levels were Osaka Castle -again- from each Sanada bro's perspective.  Was way easier since the characters I used were properly-leveled.  Actually in Yukimura's version, I barely even used him since Koshosho was available and I had her leveled a good 10 levels higher than everyone else.  Steamrolled that level pretty much solo.

Four character slots were still missing, so Okuni, Mushashi, Goemon, and the fourth whose name I forget never appear in anyone's story.  I encountered them all immediately, in the first two levels. when starting the CAW mode though, and see that they are now selectable characters.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on May 11, 2014, 12:27:38 PM
Fuck CAW.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: MoxManiac on May 11, 2014, 02:11:35 PM
It'd be nice if we got a disc version of WO3 ultimate this time. SCEA seems to have relaxed the 'no dub no disc' policy, considering the new Jojo game..
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on May 11, 2014, 06:41:25 PM
Fuck CAW.

It's fun this time around.  New levels, better customization, and new fighting styles.  Good way to extend the life of the game.  You can even use your CAW in the story mode.

It'd be nice if we got a disc version of WO3 ultimate this time. SCEA seems to have relaxed the 'no dub no disc' policy, considering the new Jojo game..

Here's hoping!
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on May 11, 2014, 07:15:37 PM
something about CAW turns me off in relation to musou. I want to play as a legendary chinese/japanese warrior. why the fuck would i want to create my own warrior?
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on May 11, 2014, 09:10:31 PM
something about CAW turns me off in relation to musou. I want to play as a legendary chinese/japanese warrior. why the fuck would i want to create my own warrior?

Yes, totally doesn't fit in with LEGENDARY WARRIORS like KUNOICHI.   
:dead

It's fun to mess with the different extra styles and interact with the other characters.  My first CAW, LORD MUNE KYUN SAMA, FROM CLAN AHOGE, WILL BE LEGEND! 
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on May 11, 2014, 09:16:57 PM
True about Kunoichi.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on May 11, 2014, 10:06:24 PM
...Not to mention all the aristocrats/wives and others who never took part in any kind of combat.

EDIT: Removed that last post.  I was getting Matsu and Nene mixed up as the same person!   :-[
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on May 11, 2014, 10:25:45 PM
Eh. I still like to play as historical figures.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: MoxManiac on May 11, 2014, 11:53:49 PM
I loved running into my Burt Reynolds CAW in SW2 Empires.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on May 12, 2014, 10:16:41 AM
Eh. I still like to play as historical figures.

OK...make a character and name him/her after a historical figure.   :P
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on May 12, 2014, 12:22:35 PM
(http://abload.de/img/k1iehw.jpg)

Don't release price and release date until like 5 days until release and then ask people to buy the game brehs.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on May 13, 2014, 01:17:01 PM
On steam. Bought.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on May 13, 2014, 01:21:02 PM
Will provide video of gameplay to show what it looks like and provide tips for the newbies.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on May 13, 2014, 01:25:41 PM
Jim Sterling says the PC port is garbage, just a heads-up.

(http://i.imgur.com/1UhTl1Z.jpg)

http://steamcommunity.com/app/278080/discussions/0/558755530592143022/

Glad I didn't pre-purchase.  Will stick with it on consoles.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on May 13, 2014, 01:34:02 PM
Ah, so he says that the day of release? What the fuck, Jim.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: a slime appears on May 13, 2014, 01:35:51 PM
There had to have been an embargo.

Also a Japanese game being shitty on PC? What a shock.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on May 13, 2014, 01:37:46 PM
Also, Jim's being hyperbolic.

Gameplay videos show that the game is totally fine and what I expected:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-oWLlSTT-IA

Graphic options are barebones, but does it allow you to play DW8XLCE? Yes. Finally, broken how? Everyone is reporting the game is fine.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Trent Dole on May 13, 2014, 01:43:08 PM
Looks like DW8 to me. Would like to hear how it runs on toasters...
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on May 13, 2014, 01:44:23 PM
As of right now, Jim is the only one reporting that the game is broken. :spin
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on May 13, 2014, 01:47:18 PM
There's no online co-op on PC, either.  WTF, Koei?  A PS3 port with missing features? 
:dead

As of right now, Jim is the only one reporting that the game is broken. :spin

Jim is a HUGE fan of Dynasty Warriors.  I would trust his opinions on port quality/technical issues.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on May 13, 2014, 01:53:13 PM
Steam thread on the co-op. (http://steamcommunity.com/app/278080/discussions/0/558755530615210698/#p1)

Please tell me they're wrong.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: a slime appears on May 13, 2014, 01:53:31 PM
HEY DUDES,

I played Dynasty Warriors 2 and thought it was super fun but hadn't touched the series since outside of a demo or two. Am I correct in assuming 8XLCE this is the best game in the series?
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on May 13, 2014, 01:57:38 PM
HEY DUDES,

I played Dynasty Warriors 2 and thought it was super fun but hadn't touched the series since outside of a demo or two. Am I correct in assuming 8XLCE this is the best game in the series?

No, it's not. But it's the best modern game in the series.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on May 13, 2014, 01:58:21 PM
HEY DUDES,

I played Dynasty Warriors 2 and thought it was super fun but hadn't touched the series since outside of a demo or two. Am I correct in assuming 8XLCE this is the best game in the series?

Best one post-DW5 and since the game essentially tells the same story in each entry, but keeps adding to it, you're not missing anything and can jump right in.

I was always more into the other musou games and never spent huge amounts of time with the Dynasty Warriors games until this one.  Really enjoyed 8 and XL offers a lot of extra content.  Having just completed the story mode in Samurai Warriors 4, I'm looking forward to playing it.   :)
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on May 13, 2014, 01:59:44 PM
Steam thread on the co-op. (http://steamcommunity.com/app/278080/discussions/0/558755530615210698/#p1)

Please tell me they're wrong.

They're wrong. It has co-op.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on May 13, 2014, 02:02:04 PM
Steam thread on the co-op. (http://steamcommunity.com/app/278080/discussions/0/558755530615210698/#p1)

Please tell me they're wrong.

They're wrong. It has co-op.

 :whew
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on May 13, 2014, 06:09:14 PM
Here's the gameplay footage I promised.

New chick is :o She has TWO Ex attacks?!?!?!

http://youtu.be/M8OcRuVpvno

Performance in this vid may not be perfect cuz I'm running fraps. Lemme know what you think!
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on May 13, 2014, 06:13:27 PM
Guess your setup isn't powerful enough for 60 FPS?

I'm gonna have to play graphics whore here and say that I'll be sticking with the better-looking PS4 version.  That level looks absolutely barren compared to the massive amounts of enemies on-screen on PS4. 
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on May 13, 2014, 06:14:49 PM
Well that, and like I said, fraps while recording a high gig video file.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on May 13, 2014, 06:27:46 PM
Lyte: you're graded in free mode? Was that in regular DW8? Don't remember. I got a C for that. Apparently there's a fire attack? :what You also have to fulfill conditions for each free mode stage. :lawd

CHALLENGE MODE!!! :lawd  Shit ton of enemies!
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on May 13, 2014, 07:25:59 PM
:lawd

This game is fantastic! A lot of the changes and new modes really make it 10x better than DW8. Two ex attacks! :rejoice And my performance so far pretty much 50 fps non stop. :bow
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on May 14, 2014, 10:05:42 PM
Apparently setting the windows compat. mode to 98 fixes the black screen issue. :)
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: a slime appears on May 15, 2014, 12:47:32 PM
Thanks for the responses guys, I'm going to play 8XLCE when GameFly feels like sending it to me.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on May 15, 2014, 02:01:22 PM
Someone please explain how to set the central square on fire in Escape from Luoyang in free mode. ??? No one mentions a fire trap. Ever!
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on May 15, 2014, 04:11:24 PM
Lyte: you're graded in free mode? Was that in regular DW8? Don't remember. I got a C for that. Apparently there's a fire attack? :what You also have to fulfill conditions for each free mode stage. :lawd

CHALLENGE MODE!!! :lawd  Shit ton of enemies!

I don't have vanilla DW8 to check anymore!   :-[
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on May 15, 2014, 05:01:15 PM
The way Challenge mode, Free Mode, Ambition Mode, and Story mode all blend together is perfection. You can chill and play challenge mode a bit for example and get PHAT LOOT for a low level character and then continue playing story mode, use that character and not have to deal with a level 1 character. :lawd Then you can go in Free Mode and fuck around and complete some goals and level them up even MORE. :gladbron This is my first XL so I've never had all characters unlocked from the get go before. It completely revamps how you enjoy the games structure.

This is a top tier Musou for me. On par with Samurai Warriors 2 and Warriors Orochi 3. Could be Goty and Samurai Warriors 4 isn't out yet. :lawd

And I haven't even brought up Ambition Mode yet. It is a tremendous improvement on the one in 8 and shits on 7's Conquest mode by a great height. They've finally done it! Fantastic mode with lots of meaty stages and variety while building up a castle Suikoden style. oOOH MY GOD musouuu :lawd
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on May 18, 2014, 04:25:55 PM
Look at that turnaround from vanilla DW8!   :lol

Samurai Warriors 4 is better, so you have that to look forward to.   :)
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on May 18, 2014, 04:30:45 PM
To be fair, vanilla DW8 had much, much less options here and the game structure didn't flow nearly as well. DW8XL feels the most Diablo Musou has probably has ever been. I highly recommend it!

What modes does SW4 have? I've been on media blackout.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on May 18, 2014, 04:39:00 PM
To be fair, vanilla DW8 had much, much less options here and the game structure didn't flow nearly as well. DW8XL feels the most Diablo Musou has probably has ever been. I highly recommend it!

What modes does SW4 have? I've been on media blackout.

It's just story (divided into multiple campaigns) and mercenary (where you use a CAW but also have a partner) modes.  The levels and game play are better than DW8, though.  A bit smaller in scale but so much more fun IMO.  Feels really, really polished and I can't wait to see how the inevitable XL version turns out.

Right now my musou-hype-focus is on Orochi Musou 2 Ultimate for PS4 at the end of next month.  :drool 
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on May 18, 2014, 04:47:55 PM
Samurai Warriors generally is more fun than DW. Can't wait! How is free mode?
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: a slime appears on May 19, 2014, 09:07:42 PM
I got 8XLCE+α from GameFly today.

It's pretty fun!
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Trent Dole on May 20, 2014, 12:58:54 PM
Hyrule Warriors is out Aug 14th in JPland, Team Ninja are involved with it a bit alongside Omega Force.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on May 20, 2014, 01:05:59 PM
Samurai Warriors generally is more fun than DW. Can't wait! How is free mode?

It's...free mode.   :)  What did you mean exactly?

Hyrule Warriors is out Aug 14th in JPland, Team Ninja are involved with it a bit alongside Omega Force.

Uh-oh.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on May 21, 2014, 08:34:40 AM
(http://www.tecmokoeiexpo.com/banner4.jpg)

 :o
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: a slime appears on May 21, 2014, 08:51:46 AM
Very cool. These games are fun!

Bork, you're saying SW4 is better than DW8XLCE?
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on May 21, 2014, 11:15:10 AM
Very cool. These games are fun!

Bork, you're saying SW4 is better than DW8XLCE?

I like it more than DW8, yeah, but think DW8 is awesome.  I generally prefer Samurai Warriors to Dynasty Warriors and Warriors Orochi to both of them.

SW4 plays so much faster than DW8 does with the new dash-attack system.  It's weird going back to DW8XL and not having that available.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on May 21, 2014, 11:32:21 AM
Samurai Warriors has more varied characters, more mechanical depth, better movesets, more in depth maps that feature various goals to accomplish, stage design that requires more strategy, planning, and timing, has higher replay value. It is the superior franchise. DW8XL is the closest I've.ever seen a DW get to SW quality.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: MoxManiac on May 21, 2014, 11:36:34 AM
Damn. I want a PS4 now.

Lyte, you said the vita version of SW4 was good, right?
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on May 21, 2014, 11:37:56 AM
I didn't see the ps4 logo. I want one too.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on May 21, 2014, 01:45:27 PM
Damn. I want a PS4 now.

PS4 musou is fucking awesome musou.  Yeah, DW8XL's framerate is the same as PS3, but those visual upgrades/1080P/MASSIVE AMOUNTS OF ENEMIES ON SCREEN just spoils the hell out of you. 

This is why I decided not to go back to Musou Orochi 2 Ultimate on PS3/Vita (I still need to do the majority of the new stages from Hyper and Ultimate) and will be finishing it on PS4 instead.  It's going to be glorious. 
:rejoice

Fuck The Last Of Us, THIS is the port-up to get excited for! :rock

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Lyte, you said the vita version of SW4 was good, right?

Yes, YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

(http://37.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lkbwcieljz1qczgbjo1_500.gif)

The only Vita port I wouldn't recommend is DW8XL.  Framerate problems and shit-sound quality.  It's not unplayable, but unless you have to have the game on the go, stick to console.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on May 21, 2014, 01:46:13 PM
Feels weird posting Nintendo stuff in here, but this is a musou game, so...!

(http://i.imgur.com/QgV9S07.jpg)(http://i.imgur.com/c3R5Ql0.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/4hnG6l3.jpg)(http://i.imgur.com/5uZF3Un.jpg)

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From Shinobi;

-August 14th
-Retail - 7,980 yen, eShop - 6,980, Premium Box Set - 11,664
-Premium set comes with a Triforce shaped clock, and serial codes for 6 special costumes.
-Will also be a 'Treasure Box' version available on Amazon and Tecmo Koei's online store 'GAMECITY', but no details yet on what it includes.
-Developed by ωForce, Team NINJA, supervised by Aonuma.
-Story is Link an in-training soldier must rescue the Princess Zelda from the witch Shia who has been turned evil somehow.
-2 player mode where one person is on the GamePad, while another is on the TV. When playing alone the GamePad acts as a menu.
-Equipping different weapons onto characters will change the way they fight, including speed focused one-handed swords to heavier weapons that focus on damage.
-Weapon upgrade system and character growth/improvement
-Musou action combined with the Zelda series' Z-targeting means you can avoid attacks and focus on enemy weak spots.
-Zelda series' spin attack appears instead of the Musou Ranbu (?) of the musou franchise.
-Bombs make an appearance, won't just be used for throwing at enemies.
-Impa, a captain of the Royal Army, appears as a playable character wielding a giant long sword.
-Several other characters are playable too. Aonuma was surprised by how many.
-Playable at E3.
-Development is 70% complete.
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ω-Force & Team NINJA are the specific developers of Hyrule Warriors.

Download copy will be cheaper than the retail copy, but at around 10,000 yen, there's apparently a premium box to be for sale. (Prices aren't clear. Retail starts with a 7, Download with a 6 and Premium with a 10. I doubt it's a round number)

The magazine has an interview with producers Koinuma Hisashi & Hayashi Yosuke and the supervisor, Eiji Aonuma.

Leaving details of the story to StreetsAhead. I can't translate at all :p
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Producer: Hisashi Koinuma, Yosuke Hayashi
Supervisor: Eiji Aonuma
Developer: ω-Force・Team NINJA

Link sets off to rescue Princess Zelda, who has been kidnapped by the evil witch Shia.

The magazine introduces Link, Impa, Shia, and some of her minions.

Location includes Hyrule Field

Interview with the three people above. Says there's some unexpected playable characters.

http://blog.hokanko-alt.com/archives/38930908.html#more
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on May 21, 2014, 01:49:29 PM
I hope to God Koei gets to mooch off some of that money they are using for that Zelda Musou game so they can use its engine for future Musou Entries People Will Actually Play. :drool Imagine that engine for DW9.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: a slime appears on May 21, 2014, 02:12:42 PM
Y'know, I though the idea of a Zelda musou game was kind of a let down but after playing 8XLCE I'm pretty excited for this game.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on May 21, 2014, 04:15:51 PM
It's worth checking out all the recent musou games from the past few years to see which one might appeal to you the most, Slime.   Just avoid the first One Piece game (the sequel is great) and the second Fist Of The North Star game.

I hope to God Koei gets to mooch off some of that money they are using for that Zelda Musou game so they can use its engine for future Musou Entries People Will Actually Play. :drool Imagine that engine for DW9.

Come on, Himu- A Zelda Musou stands a chance of being the most popular one of these games released in the last decade.  Even trapped on the Wii U!   :P

Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on May 22, 2014, 02:20:29 AM
No, it doesn't. Mario Gold did like 15k. Musou usually sells 200-300k units in Japan, much less in abroad, and Wii U's base doesn't seem interested in even buying first party Nintendo titles. Not going to happen.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Trent Dole on May 22, 2014, 03:48:14 AM
I'd buy it if I had a WiiU. :-[ What else is there to buy/play on it anyway?
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: magus on May 22, 2014, 06:33:59 AM
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-Several other characters are playable too. Aonuma was surprised by how many.

can't wait to play as epona,that weirdo in the windmill with the gramophone and tingle!
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on May 22, 2014, 08:01:15 AM
(http://www.tecmokoeiexpo.com/banner3.jpg)
 :o :o :o :o :o :o KOEI DROPPIN XBONER BOMBS

No, it doesn't. Mario Gold did like 15k. Musou usually sells 200-300k units in Japan, much less in abroad, and Wii U's base doesn't seem interested in even buying first party Nintendo titles. Not going to happen.

Mario Golf doesn't factor in here.  I think, Worldwide, Hyrule Warriors has a better chance of selling more copies than the other musou games do.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on May 22, 2014, 08:37:02 AM
Hey. Maybe you're right. I hope it does well and people can finally realize Musou games are some of the funnest on the block. GJ xbone. Hahaha.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: a slime appears on May 22, 2014, 09:47:48 AM
:rofl

I picked a good time to get into the franchise, it seems. I went from not playing at all to checking out four Musou games this year! :hyper
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on May 22, 2014, 09:48:27 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CXhS4gUZwzk

 :mouf
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on May 22, 2014, 09:57:04 AM
:lawd :lawd :lawd

:mouf

PUT IT IN ME
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on May 22, 2014, 10:00:08 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CXhS4gUZwzk

 :mouf

It says there's cross play, so if I buy it on ps3, I can get it on ps4? ???
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on May 22, 2014, 11:16:37 AM
No, that's cross-buy.

This game has cross-save options and cross-play for online.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on May 22, 2014, 11:22:28 AM
Oh. I don't know what cross play is. Why show a ps3 version then?
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Trent Dole on May 22, 2014, 11:28:43 AM
Fuck, man. I NEED a PS4 and don't even have a PS3 yet. :o
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on May 22, 2014, 12:31:43 PM
FUCK YEAH :rock :rock :rock
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: MoxManiac on May 22, 2014, 02:55:12 PM
PS4 orochi coming west??? :o :o

Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on May 22, 2014, 03:17:50 PM
Oh. I don't know what cross play is. Why show a ps3 version then?

Cross-Play = Online multiplayer, in the same game, via PS3, PS4, and/or Vita.
Cross-Save = Cloud save system, Plus not required, letting you upload and download the same data for PS3/PS4/Vita versions of the same game.
Cross-Buy = Typically has meant buy on PS3, get the Vita version free.

PS4 orochi coming west??? :o :o

I made them do it for you, Mox.   :-*
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Trent Dole on May 26, 2014, 01:38:22 PM
http://derbymuso.jp/
Samurai Warriors horse racing browser game  :o :lol
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on May 26, 2014, 11:54:17 PM
I can't beat Azai in the race :lol
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on May 28, 2014, 02:53:29 PM
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Famitsu has gone live with its first preview of the PlayStation 4 version of Samurai Warriors 4, providing us our first look at how it compares to the PlayStation 3 version.

Samurai Warriors 4 - PlayStation 4 Version Samurai Warriors 3 - PlayStation 3 Version

The PlayStation 4 version will offer enhanced graphics, better lighting and shadows, and a greater number of enemies on screen. It will also support cross-save between PlayStation 3 and PS Vita.

First-print copies of the PlayStation 4 version will include a set of 18 costumes based off the first generation Samurai Warriors.

The game is due out in Japan on September 4 and in North America and Europe this fall (alongside the PlayStation 3 and PS Vita versions).

Read more at http://gematsu.com/2014/05/first-look-playstation-4-version-samurai-warriors-4#CUQJkFb7wBq1fiJG.99

(http://gematsu.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/SW4-PS4_05-28-14_001.jpg)(http://gematsu.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/SW4-PS4_05-28-14_002.jpg)
(http://gematsu.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/SW4-PS4_05-28-14_003.jpg)(http://gematsu.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/SW4-PS4_05-28-14_004.jpg)

 :lawd
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: MoxManiac on May 30, 2014, 01:04:31 PM
I hope its 60fps this time.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on May 30, 2014, 03:25:32 PM
Even if it's not, SW4 already has a pretty stable framerate. 
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Bebpo on May 30, 2014, 04:24:36 PM
That looks pretty nice.  Wonder when we'll get the first Gundam or One Piece or FoTNS musou on PS4.  That's what'll get me back to musou, some nice 1080p/4xAA anime cell-shaded musou.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on June 03, 2014, 12:29:11 PM
DW8 Empires got announced.  MUSOU TRAIN DOESN'T STOP RUNNING
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on June 03, 2014, 12:46:50 PM
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Samurai Warriors 4 will be released on October 21st in North America and October 24th in Europe for PlayStation 3, PlayStation 4 and PlayStation Vita, Tecmo Koei have announced.

The game will feature over 50 playable characters and the ability to switch between two characters in real-time. Additionally, the PlayStation 4 version of the game will feature better visuals and “significantly” more enemies on-screen.

Additionally, co-op gameplay and cross-save functionality in Samurai Warriors 4 will be supported across all three systems.

Update: In North America, Tecmo Koei say the PS3 and Vita versions of the game will be available exclusively as downloads for $49.99 and $39.99. The PS4 version will be available at retail and will cost $59.99.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Trent Dole on June 03, 2014, 12:50:45 PM
God, fuck off with your download only shit. :punch :gun
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: MoxManiac on June 03, 2014, 02:13:40 PM
Two musou up-ports are making me buy a PS4 this fall. God help me.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on June 03, 2014, 02:29:34 PM
Two musou up-ports are making me buy a PS4 this fall. God help me.

CULT OF MUSOU

:rejoice
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: MoxManiac on June 07, 2014, 12:00:25 AM
Hey lyte, is the framerate in ps4 dw8 better than ps3 or about the same? Thinking of getting the ps4 version when i get a ps4 and selling dw8 + xl since those two combined still seem to be worth money.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on June 07, 2014, 08:38:35 PM
Hey lyte, is the framerate in ps4 dw8 better than ps3 or about the same? Thinking of getting the ps4 version when i get a ps4 and selling dw8 + xl since those two combined still seem to be worth money.

About the same.  It's still better because of the improved visuals though.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: MoxManiac on June 13, 2014, 12:01:01 PM
SW4 PS4 E3 gameplay by gamespot:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0bf7BZUWVg0

EDIT: It's interesting that the TK guy said that PS4 version is targeting the west.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on June 13, 2014, 12:04:44 PM
Tell them to release on PC to target the west too.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on June 13, 2014, 12:14:50 PM
That in-game video quality is ass, but it looks like they're using the same FOV blur filter than DW8XL has.  Didn't really look like there were more enemies on-screen compared to PS3, either. 

Obviously it's going to be the version to get for you guys, but I dunno if I'm gonna bother with it.  I shouldn't, having finished the game and all...

..but knowing me I will end up with it anyway.   :'( :-[
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: MoxManiac on June 14, 2014, 12:55:14 PM
Possible clue to Orochi 3 Ultimate release date?

http://www.amazon.de/Warriors-Orochi-3-Ultimate-PS4/dp/B00KIKK40S/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1401907716&sr=8-5&keywords=warriors+orochi+3+ultimate

I find it odd that WO3U was MIA at E3, with SW4 being shown and dated. Kind of annoying.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on June 14, 2014, 04:01:19 PM
SW4 shown in ENGLISH, at that.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on June 24, 2014, 10:31:39 PM
DW8XL for Vita just got a free upgraded audio DLC pack.  Weighs in at around 400 MB and really helps the game to not sound as shitty as before.  Voices are much, much better in quality, but sound effects still suck.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on June 25, 2014, 07:57:26 AM
Musou Orochi 2 Ultimate PS4 shipped!   :o :hyper

Finally something to play on PS4!
:rejoice
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: MoxManiac on June 25, 2014, 02:26:50 PM
Musou Orochi 2 Ultimate PS4 shipped!   :o :hyper

Finally something to play on PS4!
:rejoice

Please post impressions on frame rate asap. I really, really want this to be 60fps locked. No reason it shouldn't be since WO3 is less advanced graphically than DW8.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Takuan on June 25, 2014, 02:30:16 PM
Have any of you played Basara 4? Thoughts/opinions? I enjoyed the shit out of 3. I had a good time with the first PS3 Orochi game, but Basara combat felt superior.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on June 25, 2014, 06:46:47 PM
Please post impressions on frame rate asap. I really, really want this to be 60fps locked. No reason it shouldn't be since WO3 is less advanced graphically than DW8.

I wouldn't bank on it.   :P  But I would expect it to be much better than DW8/XL, since WO3 Ultimate on Vita/PS3 performs better than DW8XL Vita/PS3/PS4.

Have any of you played Basara 4? Thoughts/opinions? I enjoyed the shit out of 3. I had a good time with the first PS3 Orochi game, but Basara combat felt superior.

Oh yeah!  It's great and I still need to go back to it and sink a lot of time into it.  The game got kind of pushed aside for me due to other stuff.  Would also recommend Sengoku Basara 3 Utage, which is a Japanese-only stand-alone expansion to SB3 with more playable characters added.  You can import data from SB3 but it's not required.

I didn't post that much on SB4 in this thread.  Thought I posted more.  The amount of variety in character movesets and stage designs is still much more varied compared to the Koei games, too.


The best Basara is the just-released Sengoku Basara 4, easily.  They have definitely improved it over SB3.  It isn't a huge leap visually, but there's more enemy variety, crazier stages, and more moves/customization added.  This is a weird thing to praise, but I LOVE the way you go from stage to stage in this game now- I'm playing as Date Masamune, and between stages, it's presented as a real-time third-person view on him riding his horse, while he gets reports of other battles/alliances that are going on in Japan- complete with mini real time cut scenes to show this!  It's so much nicer than just a typical map.
SB4.  Man.

Capcom, why did I doubt you?  This game is too fucking good.  They just built on SB3 and added more moves, weapon customization/leveling/fusion, and continued to to give us crazy stages and enemies to fight.  Enemies can now group and attack you in various formations too, like building a human pyramid or turning themselves into giant spinning wheels.   :lol  There's also more enemy variety per stage.

Played one of Ii Naotora's routes, going the "drama" path, once.  She has a large sword and plays slower than most other characters.  At first she seemed pretty limited, but then you quickly earn her unique ability, which lets you use R1 as an attack modifier, effectively doubling her moveset.  I was doing crazy custom combos all over the place! 

Next up was Shima Saikon.  I'm not the biggest fan of his design -his outfit is a bit too revealing for my tastes and would look better on a female, but hey, this is BASARA- This dude is INSANE.  He also has what amounts to two movesets, which you can access by pressing R1 to switch stances (blades and a more kick-oriented style), and the kick style reminds me very much of a Kenshiro/Rei Fist Of The North Star fusion.  You can do a lot of his stuff in the air too, so there's a lot of juggling and air combos going on.

The only mistake I've made so far was trying out one of the game modifiers-- I equipped an item that makes all the enemies' health bars regenerate.  If you beat them, you get more money than usual, but it made one of the stages I played completely impossible...my level was too low to beat one of the sub-generals and advance to the next area of the stage.  I forgot that I had equipped this item and was going crazy wondering why I couldn't make a dent in this enemy's armor.    :lol

This is also the first SB game with DLC.  Currently there's two Date Masamune outfits (one came with the game) up; one of them is a DMC1 Dante outfit.  Had to buy it!

Absolutely having a blast playing this.  I like it so much more than SB3.
SB4 features at least five special moves per character, three super moves, and a bodyguard who you can command to attack or team up with to unleash an incredibly powerful dual super move with.  To do this, all your meters must be full, and the game then goes into this black and white beyond-SF4 style ink and paint sequence with shit just going nuts.  I one hit killed a stage boss using this attack.
SB4 is also improved, graphically, over SB3 (I usually game on a 23" monitor- hooked the PS3 up to my 42" HDTV and was surprised at how clean the picture looked), although it does still the problem where regular enemy NPCs have noticeably less-detailed faces and no mouth movement when speaking.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on June 26, 2014, 11:07:26 AM
:rock :hyper :hyper :drool :drool
(https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2905/14511620464_c1819cb6ea_b.jpg)

Can't play it for another 6-7 hours.   :'(
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: MoxManiac on June 26, 2014, 11:14:42 AM
 :omg :hyper :drool

Hurry!
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on June 26, 2014, 11:37:58 AM
Uh...um...I'm...feeling...sick.  YEAH!  SICK!  Major fever and chills need to go home ASAP!   :P

Naw, I'm not that crazy.  But it's gonna suck during lunch, lol.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on June 26, 2014, 06:48:00 PM
Initial impressions are that this is a straight port-up.  Doesn't really look like anything was enhanced along the same lines as DW8XL (and the upcoming SW4 port).  There's still the same enemy pop-in as on PS3 and detail levels don't look like anything was vastly improved, if at all.  None of the field of view "enhancements" like DW8 has are in the game, either, although most people will probably find that welcome. 

At first glance it doesn't seem like they did anything more than make the resolution 1080P...and that's it.  Framerate seems to be same, too.  I did notice it hitting 60 FPS on occasion, but for the most part it still fluctuates like on PS3/Vita.

Does this mean that you shouldn't get this on PS4?  Absolutely not-- even if the only big difference is the resolution, this is still the best version of the game available.  But if you're like me and already own Musou Orochi 2 Ultimate on PS3, I wouldn't recommend upgrading.  The difference just isn't as big as the other musou PS4 ports.

Going to keep playing and see if anything else sticks out.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: MoxManiac on June 26, 2014, 08:30:03 PM
Is the frame rate at least better, even if it does fluctuate?

Koei  :-\
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on June 26, 2014, 08:32:58 PM
Is the frame rate at least better, even if it does fluctuate?

Koei  :-\

Seems pretty much the same to me.  There's no real problems like DW8 has in that regard anyway.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: MoxManiac on June 26, 2014, 09:24:49 PM
I'm getting a PS4 in september anyways, so there's no reason for me not to get the PS4 version, but what is Koei's problem. WO3 already looks underwhelming on PS3, it couldn't take that much effort to at least have it up to 60fps if they aren't going to do anything to the game. Is the peon count increased at least? You said there is still pop in.

I hope the PS4 version of SW4 fares better.

Koei sucks.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on June 26, 2014, 10:14:15 PM
I'm getting a PS4 in september anyways, so there's no reason for me not to get the PS4 version, but what is Koei's problem. WO3 already looks underwhelming on PS3, it couldn't take that much effort to at least have it up to 60fps if they aren't going to do anything to the game. Is the peon count increased at least? You said there is still pop in.

It's hard to tell if it has been increased or not.  I thought it wasn't, but it could just be the pop-in.  It's definitely less than DW8XL PS4, though.  That is for certain.

Gonna put up some screenshots in a minute.

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I hope the PS4 version of SW4 fares better.

Koei sucks.

Well, one thing about this game is that it's three and a half years old already.  Koei's games from 2013/2014 look noticeably better than their previous titles.  Samurai Warriors 4 on PS3 is, IMO, the best-looking Musou game, period, and there's footage of the PS4 version that shows it got the DW8 PS4 treatment.  SW4 also already has a great framerate-- but I still wouldn't expect 60 out of it on PS4.  :P :-\
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on June 26, 2014, 10:36:26 PM
Warriors Orochi 3 Ultimate PS4 screenshots.  The funny thing is that some of these actually look pretty good.  Some of the fire effects look noticeably better in this game.

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For comparison, here's a few screenshots of Dynasty Warriors 8 XL Complete.  You can see farther into the distance, there's more character detail, and the picture/textures are much cleaner/detailed as well.

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Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on June 26, 2014, 11:16:22 PM
I just booted up the PS3 and Vita versions of Ultimate for comparison and am happy to report that the PS4 version definitely has more characters on-screen than those versions, but it still feels like less than what DW8XL can display.  They also did add some small details here and there to the stages.  It just overall doesn't feel like as big a leap as DW8 was going from PS3 to PS4.  Which makes sense, I suppose.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: The Legend of Sunblade on June 27, 2014, 12:16:19 AM
PS4 Orochi 3 still looks slightly better than I remember it looking on PS3, so that's a good enough reason to pick it up. Dunno if I have the patience to get the Platinum for it again if it involves grinding out every single character to S proficiency again.  :stahp
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: MoxManiac on June 27, 2014, 11:05:27 AM
PS4 Orochi 3 still looks slightly better than I remember it looking on PS3, so that's a good enough reason to pick it up. Dunno if I have the patience to get the Platinum for it again if it involves grinding out every single character to S proficiency again.  :stahp

The trophies for ultimate are different. I did look at them, didn't see any proficiency/wallpaper related ones.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: MoxManiac on June 27, 2014, 12:42:06 PM
North American release date confirmed: September 2nd.

Source: front page of http://koeiwarriors.co.uk/

Only a week before I get my PS4  :hyper
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on June 30, 2014, 08:12:55 AM
Post-vanilla WO3 stage impressions so far feel kind of mixed.  I liked all the new stages that were added to the vanilla campaign, but chapter 5 was three stages long (WTF LOL, hope something more pops up there later) and chapter six was like seven stages long, gave me an ending, then allowed to do an alternate stage route which appears to be another six stages.  The problem here, however, is that they're now just recycling levels and it feels a bit stale.  The difficulty is challenging for lower-level characters, at least.  I usually keep a level 100 character on a team just in case.

EDIT:

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Wow, so chapters 5 and 8 are pretty light on stages.  Still is at least another 10+ hours of game play total and there's that other mode to tackle. 
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: MoxManiac on June 30, 2014, 05:20:56 PM
It looks like there is more stages in chapters 1-4 then in vanilla WO3. Is that content that was added in special/hyper or did ultimate add it?
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on July 01, 2014, 12:11:11 AM
It's content from Special, Hyper, and new levels for Ultimate as well. 
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on July 10, 2014, 08:29:11 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LaPHNiXpkGA

 8)
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on July 23, 2014, 11:27:44 AM
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Samurai Warriors 4 Gets A Collector’s Edition On PS4 In The West

By Ishaan . July 23, 2014 . 6:43am
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Samurai Warriors 4 is getting a 10th anniversary collector’s edition exclusively on PlayStation 4 in North America and Europe. The collector’s edition will include the following items:

    “Special Anime Pack” 10th anniversary Collector’s Edition packaging

    Samurai Warriors: Legend of the Sanada anime (Blu-ray Disc)

    Samurai Warriors 4 game (PlayStation 4)

    Samurai Warriors 4 Official Soundtrack (CD)

    Special Costume Pack 4: Garcia, Ina, Nene and Oichi (DLC)

    Old Costume Pack 1: Yukimura, Mitsuhide, Nobunaga, Noh, Oichi, and Ranmaru (DLC)

    Edit Parts Pack 1 which allows facial and Western themed armor customization (DLC)

In addition, Koei Tecmo have also announced two collections of pre-order DLC incentives in North America. The first is exclusive to GameStop and will include:

 Scenario Pack 1: New stages “Sinister Beauties” and “Men of Charm and Courage”, new items “Gold Lacquered Box” and “Lion Censer”
 Special Costumes for: Mitsunari Ishida and Toyohisa Shimazu

Meanwhile, the other pre-order incentives can be gained through Amazon and Best Buy:

    Weapon Pack 1: New weapons for over 25 characters
    Old Costume Pack 2: Costumes inspired by the original Samurai Warriors for Keiji Maeda, Kenshin Uesugi, Kunoichi and Shingen Takeda

Samurai Warriors 4 will be available on October 21st in North America and October 24th in Europe for PlayStation 4, PlayStation 3 and PS Vita.

Read more at http://www.siliconera.com/2014/07/23/samurai-warriors-4-gets-collectors-edition-ps4-west/#0Du2K0V6liCtB0SK.99
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: MoxManiac on July 23, 2014, 04:29:57 PM
I will buy it   :bow2
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Trent Dole on July 25, 2014, 02:26:41 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2c8EEXL3L8c
How the fuck do I want a Wii U? GODDAMNIT NINTENDO!
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on July 25, 2014, 03:13:25 PM
That's because Wii U is the system to get this and next year.

Also, game looks game. Koei shitting on haters with their :bow ness
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: The Legend of Sunblade on August 14, 2014, 07:25:50 PM
So Ken's Rage 2 is pretty bad.

The same friend that asked me to pick it up during the Anime sale had warned me that the game was pretty poop (but wants to round up peeps for the online trophies), but man hearing it is different from playing it. Probably the most egregious aspect so far is all these god damn enemy arenas where the game wants me to clear out 70+ thugs before I can move on. It'd be fine if I only have to do it once, but they want me to do it like 6 times per "stage". Despite increasing the movement speed from the first game, those arenas make the game feel like I'm barely making progress.

Story mode is annoying. Being interrupted every couple of seconds with unskippable "cutscenes" is awful, and using static 3D models as manga panels comes across as super lazy.

I went into Dream mode and this is the only character I can use. His attacks are kind of amusing but none of them stagger officers so he's effectively 100% useless.

(http://i.imgur.com/hKbuWcE.jpg)

The fuk where the priorities for the people who made this? This was supposed to celebrate the series' 30th anniversary.  :what
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Joe Molotov on August 14, 2014, 08:10:37 PM
Why does Dream Mode force you to play as "Outlaw"? Who's dream was that? If I'm playing a Hokuto no Ken game, I just want to play as Ken and make guys' heads explode, this game sounds like bullshit.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: The Legend of Sunblade on August 14, 2014, 08:21:54 PM
Exactly. I only just now unlocked Shin after trudging through Legend mode long enough, but I still can't play as Kenshiro in Dream mode. I don't get what they were thinking.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on August 14, 2014, 09:44:21 PM
You probably have to clear more of the story.

The real question is why the hell are you still playing it?  Get the original and delete that other shit off your HDD.   :yuck
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: The Legend of Sunblade on August 14, 2014, 09:48:10 PM
Been there already.  :jawalrus

(http://i.imgur.com/Yqlf5vB.png)

I mean it's playable and not the worst game I've ever gone through. I figure I'll at least suffer through Legend mode before getting rid of it.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on August 15, 2014, 10:06:50 AM
Then why are you continuing to torture yourself?   :lol

Did you play One Piece 2?  That's way better than this shitpile.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: The Legend of Sunblade on August 15, 2014, 12:11:43 PM
One Piece.  :-\

I'll  suffer through mediocrity for the HNK license, but it'd take a herculean effort to get me to play a One Piece game.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on August 15, 2014, 12:23:37 PM
*grabs knife*
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on August 15, 2014, 12:34:06 PM
One Piece.  :-\

I'll  suffer through mediocrity for the HNK license, but it'd take a herculean effort to get me to play a One Piece game.

 :goty2

I'm not exactly a big One Piece fan, but that doesn't matter.  The second game is straight-up musou awesomeness.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: The Legend of Sunblade on August 15, 2014, 12:57:06 PM
 :beli

I don't mean that as "One Piece is bad", I mean that as "I don't care much for One Piece". Told you already that the main reason I bought Ken's Rage 2 anyway was because a friend wanted my help in getting the online stuff.

If OP2 is that good, I'll consider it once I'm done with 8XL and SW4.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Joe Molotov on August 15, 2014, 03:09:39 PM
I forgot Pirate Warriors 2 was on sale, I should get that.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on August 15, 2014, 04:25:14 PM
I forgot Pirate Warriors 2 was on sale, I should get that.

Yes, please buy and enjoy the fine wine of musou instead of throwing money away for the rancid fecal water of musou.   :tophat

#musousnobbery
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Joe Molotov on August 15, 2014, 06:21:41 PM
Crazy that it's $5 cheaper than Ken's Rage 2, even though it's newer, better, and has the hotter license.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: The Legend of Sunblade on August 15, 2014, 07:52:32 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/MBbE7eH.png)

Only because I know I'm gonna get pestered about it until I fix my mistake.  :shh

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Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on August 16, 2014, 01:00:29 PM
Haha, sucker.  One Piece is garbage. 

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Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on August 16, 2014, 01:01:04 PM
Crazy that it's $5 cheaper than Ken's Rage 2, even though it's newer, better, and has the hotter license.

Makes no sense.   :dizzy
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on August 16, 2014, 01:43:38 PM
WAN PISUUUUUU
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: MoxManiac on August 16, 2014, 09:21:38 PM
Lyte, you didnt import hyrule warriors? I am dissapointed.  :stahp
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on August 16, 2014, 11:00:09 PM
Lyte, you didnt import hyrule warriors? I am dissapointed.  :stahp

I was crazy enough to buy a Japanese 3DS, but I'm not about to import a Wii U.   :P
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: The Legend of Sunblade on August 17, 2014, 01:50:56 PM
Got to try out DW Gundam Reborn at a friend's place. Although I'm in no position to afford it (not that I should get it, since I still need to finish 8XL, Ken's Rage 2 and now PW2), I was glad to see that they improved the awful mission variety from 3, as well as expanded the actual locations where missions could take place (space, air, ground, etc as opposed to only ground missions). Hell, it even had a proper Official mode instead of the weird stuff 3 had. I was right on the verge of putting the game back on my "to buy" list in the future...

...But then I noticed that not only did they remove the ZZ story from Official mode, they added campaigns for BOTH SEED series. So now the Cosmis Era entries are the big shit and can have 26 NEW SUITS to play as from them but they can't even be bothered to add even one new suit from other non-UC eras like G/Wing/TurnA/etc. Unforgivable.  :maf

 :gun SEED  :trash
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on August 19, 2014, 08:38:04 AM
Don't know or care about the story stuff, was just glad to see how well Shin Gundam Musou ran on Vita and beat up waves of Optimus Primes and Shockwaves.  :rock
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on August 28, 2014, 08:39:11 AM
One Piece Kaizoku Musou/Pirate Warriors 3 has been announced for PS3/PS4/Vita!  Will be at TGS. 

And holy shit, Sengoku Musou 4 comes out for PS4 next week.  :dizzy  I want to get it even though I really don't need it. 
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: MoxManiac on August 28, 2014, 10:26:37 AM
You have a contractual obligation to get the PS4 and report on the quality of the port.  :-*
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on August 28, 2014, 10:27:35 AM
Fuck SamWar 4 coming out in October. Been waiting forever. FUck ps4 version for delaying.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on August 28, 2014, 12:45:49 PM
You have a contractual obligation to get the PS4 and report on the quality of the port.  :-*

I dunno...if I wait, I could get the U.S. PS4 and Vita versions for the same price as it would cost to import the PS4 version.   :dizzy
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: MoxManiac on September 01, 2014, 08:58:25 AM
Dragon Quest Musou!!!!  :o :o :o :omg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YebkU-6ILLE&list=UU6SmH9mR82nj28_NNg_rZvA
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: a slime appears on September 01, 2014, 10:02:09 AM
YES!!!!

This is a LE PS4 they're releasing with the game:

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Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: MoxManiac on September 02, 2014, 08:56:30 AM
Apparently they are saying its not a musou game, but it sure looks like one to me.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Joe Molotov on September 02, 2014, 09:00:59 AM
99 Dragon Quest Nights
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on September 02, 2014, 10:30:23 AM
Sengoku Musou 4 PS4 ordered.  Damn my musou addiction. 

Apparently they are saying its not a musou game, but it sure looks like one to me.

"It's not a musou game, but Omega Force is developing it for us."   :lol ??? :lol
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on September 02, 2014, 05:58:43 PM
With Warriors Orochi 3 Ultimate out, the Fall of Musou has begun!
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on September 02, 2014, 07:39:51 PM
With Warriors Orochi 3 Ultimate out, the Fall of Musou has begun!

It's really weird how this game took almost a full year to get localized.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: MoxManiac on September 06, 2014, 12:31:29 PM
Gonna wait here for Lyte's SW4 PS4 impressions  8)
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on September 06, 2014, 03:23:13 PM
Gonna wait here for Lyte's SW4 PS4 impressions  8)

Well...

Sengoku Musou 4 is by far the best-looking musou game to date (I have not played Hyrule Warriors yet, though) and the PS4 enhancements are pretty noticeable. The models and lighting/effects are much-improved over the already-awesome PS3 version. I also noticed some nice new effects like slight character reflections on rain-slicked ground. Like DW8XL, there's more enemies on-screen and no enemy pop-in. The frame rate seems about the same as the PS3 version, which is fine since it was already pretty stable. This is by far the definitive version of the game.

Will post some screenshots shortly.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on September 06, 2014, 03:50:16 PM
So yeah, it's pretty.  It's so pretty.  Nice effects n' lighting. 

(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3868/15158809592_cf9c3674dc_b.jpg)

 :lawd

Here's 20 screen captures.  Putting them in a spoiler since they're in glorious 1920x1080.
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Also for comparison, here's Dynasty Warriors 8XL and Warriors Orochi 3 Ultimate.  Note that the DW8 picture is from before the patch, which allows the background fog effect to be toned down/turned off.  Really shows how lazy Koei was with WO3U.

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And here's the Vita version and the PS4 versions:

(http://i.imgur.com/U1XLhy3.jpg)
(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5581/15159207025_885f16b281_b.jpg)
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: MoxManiac on September 07, 2014, 09:40:50 AM
Why does that character look sad during her musou attack?
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on September 07, 2014, 11:59:32 AM
Why does that character look sad during her musou attack?

:uguu

She's apologizing for the musou attack.  That kind of character.

(PS3 footage)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qwpJrNM9rk8

The funny thing is that Capcom's version of her, in Sengoku Basara 4, is like the complete opposite.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_ejlv8aHsI

Not just in personality and design, but the moveset, too- SW Naotora is one of the faster characters and fights with kick-based attacks; SB Naotora is actually more of a slow 'powerhouse' character, with a huge sword, and she has attacks that can be modified or canceled into other attacks. 
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on September 07, 2014, 12:29:25 PM
Why does that character look sad during her musou attack?

:uguu

She's apologizing for the musou attack.  That kind of character.

:rofl
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: TreIII on September 08, 2014, 05:15:50 PM
Apparently they are saying its not a musou game, but it sure looks like one to me.

They could technically say it's "not", in the same way that Trinity: Souls of Zill O'll wasn't a Musou game, either. Sure, it had a lot in common with traditional Musou games, but it was definitely more of an "action-rpg" than the usual Musou style that's more of a stage-based hack-n-slash with mild strategy elements.

The thing I like most about about DQ Heroes thus far is that it looks like it may take what I like about Zelda Musou a few steps further. I just hope those gigantic boss fights are more fun than they are in Zelda. A few weeks later, and the lasting impression I get from fighting those bosses is that they're more annoying than fun.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: demi on September 09, 2014, 12:29:50 PM
Here we go again,

Exclusive bundle @ Nintendo World Store

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BxGoGRHCIAAOFi9.jpg)
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: tiesto on September 22, 2014, 06:43:41 PM
The remixed battle tunes are awesome...
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on September 23, 2014, 08:20:16 AM
Hyrule Warriors is out Friday!

Paid DLC packs on the way!

 :'(
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on September 23, 2014, 01:23:27 PM
Dynasty Warriors 8 Empires has been announced for North America and Europe.  PlayStation 3, PlayStation 4 and Xbox One in Q1 2015.

Toukiden Kiwami is also coming out in early 2015 for Vita.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: MoxManiac on September 26, 2014, 07:30:00 PM
Escorting an engineer unit while a unit from the other side of the map goes toward my main camp.. Hyrule warriors is a musiu game alright.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on September 26, 2014, 09:17:01 PM
Escorting an engineer unit while a unit from the other side of the map goes toward my main camp.. Hyrule warriors is a musiu game alright.

Played the first few levels.

Everything is locked at first, but just play a stage or two and stuff starts opening up.  This game reminds me a lot of Fist Of The North Star: Ken's Rage, actually, in that while it's very much a musou game, it has a slightly different feel to it because of the added Zelda elements.  Even little touches like slashing at grass to get rupees and hearts and crazy cuckoos are there.  The huge stage bosses are awesome and I would love to see something like that pop up in the traditional musou games.  Skulltulas pop up in every stage and you can beat them for bonuses...only when I go to where they're supposed to be, I'm not finding anything.

Also similar to Ken's Rage are character skill trees, divided up into offensive/defensive/assist sections.  You can get new weapons, armor, make items, and fuse items/weapons together too.

Visually, it's hard to say if this is the best musou out of all the PS3/360/Wii U games.  I want to say it is, but Samurai Warriors 4 on PS3 is also very impressive.  The game doesn't beat the PS4 Samurai Warriors 4 in this area, although the framerate is pretty solid for the most part.  The audio seems to go in and out of sounding like a regular Zelda game and sounding like a generic musou butt rock track.  It's weird.  There's also no spoken dialogue, except for the narration between levels.  Also weird.

I like this game a lot...but Samurai Warriors 4 is still better.  :pimp
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on September 26, 2014, 09:30:00 PM
Sounds great.

do nintendo fans like it?
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: demi on September 27, 2014, 12:18:54 AM
This game is dope. As a diehard Musou fan, it is the best ever. I'm a huge Musou fan. I've always liked Musou.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on September 27, 2014, 12:29:04 AM
:lol
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on September 27, 2014, 05:48:21 PM
Something some people may miss-- if you want to start running, hit B to dodge and hold the button down to go right into running animation. 

Finished what I guess could be considered the "light" side of the game and beat Cia.  The Temple Of Souls stage, which looks like a twisted haunted house of sorts, is easily the best-looking stage in the game.  Totally different than any other musou game...wish more stages looked like it did.

Now I'm playing as Gannondorf.  He seems more powerful than all the characters right out of the gate, but is slower.  How much more powerful?

spoiler (click to show/hide)
Well, on his first stage, you have to fight all three of the "giant monster" bosses that the game made you fight one at a time before...all at the same time.  I mowed them down pretty easily.
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Big G is crazy fucking strong.  Slow, but strong.

Sounds great.

do nintendo fans like it?

Seems to be mixed, and yup, there really are some posts like Demi's out there.   :lol
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Trent Dole on September 27, 2014, 07:05:00 PM
Well SW3 was Wii only in the west.  :-[
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Himu on September 27, 2014, 07:30:21 PM
Well SW3 was Wii only in the west.  :-[

don't fucking remind us
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on October 04, 2014, 04:39:52 PM
So I discovered the Gauntlet Mode on WO3 Ultimate and wow, this mode can kick the shit out of you.  Fortunately you keep any items and growth points you get when your team eventually gets wiped out.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on October 06, 2014, 10:19:02 PM
WO3 Ultimate has a shitload of post game content :o
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3, Dragon Quest Heroes!
Post by: bork on October 07, 2014, 07:57:50 AM
 :pimp
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: SAMURAI WARRIORS 4! OUT TODAY!
Post by: Himu on October 21, 2014, 01:31:00 AM
LET YOUR SOUL BURN

ARE YOU READY SAMURAI WARRIORS?!?!
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: SAMURAI WARRIORS 4! OUT TODAY!
Post by: bork on October 21, 2014, 08:25:34 AM
 :jawalrus :obama :sabu :mynicca
(http://legunaselitegamers.freeforums.org/images/smilies/108129279.png)

Enjoy it, guys!  My crazy ass would probably even buy it again in English if Bayonetta 2 weren't coming out this week.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: SAMURAI WARRIORS 4! OUT TODAY!
Post by: Cheddahz on October 21, 2014, 10:07:47 AM
I got WO3 Ultimate for my Vita for super cheap thanks to some glitch..what the hell am I suppose to do (it's my first musou game)
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: SAMURAI WARRIORS 4! OUT TODAY!
Post by: Trent Dole on October 21, 2014, 11:15:48 AM
I got WO3 Ultimate for my Vita for super cheap thanks to some glitch..what the hell am I suppose to do (it's my first musou game)
KILL ALL THE THINGS :hyper :punch :gun
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: SAMURAI WARRIORS 4! OUT TODAY!
Post by: bork on October 21, 2014, 11:32:51 AM
I got WO3 Ultimate for my Vita for super cheap thanks to some glitch..what the hell am I suppose to do (it's my first musou game)

Start off by progressing further and getting more characters unlocked.  You'll have to get the friendship bonds up between certain characters to unlock side missions, which also leads to more characters, too.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: SAMURAI WARRIORS 4! OUT TODAY!
Post by: Himu on October 21, 2014, 12:08:18 PM
Why didn't anyone tell me that Samurai Warriors 4 ps3 was going to be psn only?
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: SAMURAI WARRIORS 4! OUT TODAY!
Post by: bork on October 21, 2014, 12:13:59 PM
Why didn't anyone tell me that Samurai Warriors 4 ps3 was going to be psn only?

I thought it was common knowledge that only the PS4 version was getting a retail release?
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: SAMURAI WARRIORS 4! OUT TODAY!
Post by: bork on October 21, 2014, 03:45:08 PM
http://www.siliconera.com/2014/10/21/samurai-warriors-chronicle-3-introduces-new-time-attack-stage-mode/

Koei recycling models again- LU BU RETURNS FOR YOU TO RUN AWAY FROM IN SENGOKU MUSOU!
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: SAMURAI WARRIORS 4! OUT TODAY!
Post by: Himu on October 22, 2014, 01:16:00 AM
Impressions:

- I love the combat, it's traditional Samurai Warriors slow, but strikes a balance between that and Warriors Orochi 3 esque combat.
- Hyper mode makes the SW move list even more awesome. Yes. YESSSS.
- The cutscenes where the character talk in between maps are great. There's no decisions or anything, but you get a lot of good story exposition and since I love Samurai Warriors for the characters in a lot of ways, It really enhances the game for me.
- I hate the fact that objectives are prompts now and you have some huge ass map. It breaks the flow. Also, Samurai Warriors usually feels hectic despite the slower pace than Dynasty Warriors because you've got mission after mission to complete and you have to prioiritize, strategize, and act quick. So far, it's very relaxed and feels DW-ish. I don't like that. It doesn't have the iconic SamWar tension and I'm a few maps into Oda's.
- I'm split on the fact that there's now a clan-based story mode. On one hand it breaks up the pace, on the other, it just feels wrong for SW for me. At the very least, we have way more options than we did in DW7 and 8 in regards to what characters we want to play as, so if you want to you can play as the same character the whole mode like in the past, it seems. But on the flip side, story mode is way shorter.

The games content also feels...basic. In SamWar 2 - my favorite Musou - you had that board game thing, you had a fighter game mode, you have the roguelike-esque mode where you went from floor to floor and engaged in insane situations, on top of free and story mode. This just has a shorter story-mode, a free mode, and some Conquest mode. That's it.

I like the game so far, but it's missing a couple of things that makes Samurai Warriors the superior Warriors series for me.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: SAMURAI WARRIORS 4! OUT NOW! ATATATATAATATATAATATATATATA
Post by: Himu on October 22, 2014, 01:52:13 AM
Gosh combat may be the best its ever been in a musou. :whew Hyper attacks. :whew
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: SAMURAI WARRIORS 4! OUT NOW! ATATATATAATATATAATATATATATA
Post by: Himu on October 22, 2014, 03:10:48 AM
Those who hate the objectives popping up on the screen and ruining the game flow, go to options and then gameplay settings and turn that shit off, it's awful.

Chronicle mode is fun. Really fun, despite featuring CAW. I usually don't like CAW in my Warriors games, but this is great.

Still not liking the DW-ized difficulty. Sigh.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: SAMURAI WARRIORS 4! OUT TODAY!
Post by: bork on October 22, 2014, 11:20:09 AM
But on the flip side, story mode is way shorter.

Nah, not all of the routes are open to you yet.  There's more than what is initially shown and some routes are much longer than others.  The difficulty also starts to ramp up with the later/longer routes.

It took me 30 or so hours to clear the game.

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The games content also feels...basic. In SamWar 2 - my favorite Musou - you had that board game thing, you had a fighter game mode, you have the roguelike-esque mode where you went from floor to floor and engaged in insane situations, on top of free and story mode. This just has a shorter story-mode, a free mode, and some Conquest mode. That's it.

The rogue-like mode you're referring to looks like it's going to be in Sengoku Musou Chronicle 3...which is Vita and 3DS only for whatever reason.  I'm hoping we get an XL version with this kind of additional content.

Anyway, between the story and conquest mode, I'm happy with the game.  Plenty of content.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: SAMURAI WARRIORS 4! OUT NOW! ATATATATAATATATAATATATATATA
Post by: Bebpo on October 22, 2014, 03:09:30 PM
So SW4 is worth picking up on PS4?
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: SAMURAI WARRIORS 4! OUT NOW! ATATATATAATATATAATATATATATA
Post by: bork on October 22, 2014, 03:24:16 PM
So SW4 is worth picking up on PS4?

Yup.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: SAMURAI WARRIORS 4! OUT NOW! ATATATATAATATATAATATATATATA
Post by: Himu on October 22, 2014, 05:25:18 PM
Have a day off today so I'm playing SW4. I bumped it to hard, and the maps are still shit.

It's a great game because the combat system is amazing, but it isn't what I want from Samurai Warriors. They have completely Dynasty Warrior-ized this series and took away its identity to make it more accessible. Honestly, it makes me want to import Samurai Warriors 3Z and play that instead.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: SAMURAI WARRIORS 4! OUT NOW! ATATATATAATATATAATATATATATA
Post by: Himu on October 22, 2014, 05:52:58 PM
I think this may be my last Musou for a long time. I can't get over what they've done to SW. It's pretty clear they're chasing Basara money and have decided to make the game reflect that by making stages linear as fuck.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: SAMURAI WARRIORS 4! OUT NOW! ATATATATAATATATAATATATATATA
Post by: bork on October 22, 2014, 10:13:47 PM
I am assuming you are referring to SW2, which I haven't played in forever.  What seems so different and more DW-like to you?

It's nothing like Basara is.  The stages do not have that kind of straight linear feel to them.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: SAMURAI WARRIORS 4! OUT NOW! ATATATATAATATATAATATATATATA
Post by: Himu on October 22, 2014, 10:54:33 PM
I am assuming you are referring to SW2, which I haven't played in forever.  What seems so different and more DW-like to you?

It's nothing like Basara is.  The stages do not have that kind of straight linear feel to them.

Watch this video. Then play Samurai Warriors 4.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7aFaaMJfxIc

This video has event after event after event. You have to protect all enemy officers or risk game over. But at the same time, you have to halt the enemies retreat. After that, when reinforcements come, Tadakatsu is heading towards your main camp, Ina's heading towards the Shimazu army - your ally, and Naomasa Ii and Watanabe are headed for ANOTHER ally. But remember: GAME OVER IF ONE OF YOUR ALLIES DIES, so ya know, no pressure, so you better hurry the fuck up. So you have to balance three different missions at once. Actually, make that four. There's SO MUCH stuff going on and it becomes a tense delicate balancing act of priorities with hacking and slashing. I loved it. Even Samurai Warriors Chronicles has all of this. Swamping the player with insane amount of priorities that they have to shuffle around is Samurai Warriors tradition.

And SW4 ain't that. So far, and I'm pretty much done with Oda's campaign, it's just really boring, generic mission conditions with barely anything in the way of the mission prioritization that was in earlier games. Even morale doesn't seem to do shit in this one, and finding the standard bearer is far too easy. More than that, look at the map of the video I just posted. It's confusing. So far every map I've encountered in SW4 is pretty basic. It's very static and very action-focused and not tactical. DW and Basara make a perfect comparison. Even the crowd control triangle moves feel like a DW-esque thing because it makes mobs die like a hot knife against butter, when traditionally, mobs have always been MUCH stronger in SW than in DW. Archers and gunmen FUCK YOU UP in SW2. But a couple of triangle moves against a giant mob in SW4? Pssh. Koei Tecmo have made one of their more unique Musou series' into a homogeneous Dynasty Warriors retread without being in China.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: SAMURAI WARRIORS 4! OUT NOW! ATATATATAATATATAATATATATATA
Post by: bork on October 22, 2014, 11:47:07 PM
I think you need to play some of the other routes first.

That said, it sounds like what you want is what Chronicles 3 looks to be.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: SAMURAI WARRIORS 4! OUT NOW! ATATATATAATATATAATATATATATA
Post by: Himu on October 23, 2014, 12:25:24 AM
Chronicle Mode is the best thing about this game besides the revamped combat. It's excellent. On hard mode especially.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: SAMURAI WARRIORS 4! OUT NOW! ATATATATAATATATAATATATATATA
Post by: Himu on October 23, 2014, 09:48:23 PM
Hmmm.

I think I've played enough of SW4 to give it a fair review. Note that I did not play SW3. Thanks a lot for that KT.

+ Usual Samurai Warriors great move set system and variety between characters.
+ Excellent presentation, aside from the Free Mode character select, which isn't the usual flash Musou way at all. Pretty vanilla, in fact, considering the rest of the games sleek UI.
+ Really good music, but that's not unusual for the series.
+ Chronicles Mode is a pretty fantastic mode and the games saving grace. There's a lot of options, tons of content, and lots of interesting/cute character interactions you wouldn't normally see. The character relationship system is nice, and the cutscenes that happen when raising a characters friendship are full of personality and funny choices. It's a really charming game mode.
+ The exposition in between maps in Story mode is a welcome addition. You get some exposition on why Mitsunari probably did what he did, and the way the clans stories' unfold and connect to each other is pretty sweet.
+ Story mode in general is pretty decent, story-wise, because it continuously builds upon established relationships and telling a STORY and not just map after map of goodness without much cohesion.

That's all I can say for the games positives.

- Story mode, besides telling the story, is a huge step back. The fact that the story isn't told through characters decreases the amount of maps in the game a tremendous amount, and this isn't a quality over quantity thing either. This makes Chronicles mode the main mode due to how little content is actually in story mode.
- The skill system is awful. In past Warriors games you'd get a giant list of skills, and customize weapons so that your character had whatever skills you deemed necessary. In this, you cannot customize skills. They come hard locked on to weapons. You can't take them out or anything. You can't add skills to a weapon. You can't change the skills that are on a weapon. If you want to have a specific weapon with specific skills, you're going to be grinding for loot drops.
- Speaking of loot drops, the loot is dog shit. I've been playing on hard and nightmare and I've yet to get any good weapons or skills. I repeatedly get the same 33's and 50's or 55's. Just basic shit. Normally, higher difficulties renders better drops. Not in this case.
- Speaking of difficulty, this game is butt easy. I put it on hard and it's still easy as all hell. There's very little balance. Enemy officers rarely, if ever, use their musou on you. I've played about 20 hours so far, and I've only had one enemy officer use their musou on me. The new hyper attacks make the trademark Samurai Warriors gameplay in to a Musou-fest, which is exactly what DW has turned itself into. You can gain musou gauge without any effort. In past Samurai Warriors games that I've played (1, 2, Chronicles), gaining a musou takes a bit more effort. Just now I was playing as Nobunaga and fighting two officers. I hit one with a musou, and refilled my gauge in less than five seconds, and then wasted the other officer with another one. This is on Hard mode. Objectives are easy, officers are easy, maps are easy.
- Due to the randomness of Chronicles mode, the mission objectives start to get canned and repetitive.
- Objectives are nonsensical and generic "kill the officer!" There's nothing in the way of interesting map design, like taking out cannons that are hitting your army hard affecting morale, or trying to save the peasants so they can help you later on, or anything. Boring.
- SW's unique maps like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8hu8tqkreNs Have been completely taken out.
- The combo system has been ruined. Hyper attacks are flashy, but lead to very little in the way of cohesive combos due to how fast you're going and how little control you are alloted. I can rack up 1000 combo without any effort at all just mashing.
- Hyper attacks in general. While at first they're cool when loading up the game, they end up being a hindrance than anything else. They make characters in Samurai Warriors, who have been prided for their individuality into something more Dynasty Warriors-ish that makes them homogeneous. It makes no sense the Okuni, a bloody heavenly and graceful Goddess teleports and moves as fast as the Oda, who is billed as a demon conqueror. The final move separates each character, but ultimately, the look is still same-y. This is without mentioning how effortless hyper attacks make taking out waves of enemies even on harder modes, it's nothing but slashing butter. This is what helps build up the aforementioned musou gauge at rapid pace.
- Rage mode is broken to hell. I can take out an enemy officer's hp 75% on hard and nightmare.
- Enemy variety has gone out of the window. In SW2, you'd regularly fight enemies that throw bombs, bowmen, gunmen, giant sumo dudes that fuck you up. They rarely show up in this and aren't nearly as strong as they used to be.
- No officer duel intro/exits/death animations. I always loved those.

Ultimately, this is Samurai Warriors that is a shell of its former self. Less content, less heart and what made it unique from Dynasty Warriors. I can only recommend this to people who play Musou just for the action and mashin'. Maybe story too. If you're someone who enjoys the more technical stuff in the series, avoid this at all costs. This isn't for you. At its heart, SW4 has the makings of a good game. The execution is a highly flawed piece of software and I can only with a brave face describe it as decent at best.

I'll enjoy the rest of the games content, but from here on out, I'm done. Thanks for the memories, KT.

If you have a ps3 and want a Samurai Warriors game, I suggest getting SW2 off of psn instead. If you have a ps4, skip Samurai Warriors 4 altogether and just buy Warriors Orochi 3 Ultimate. Support good games, not cynical rip offs.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: SAMURAI WARRIORS 4! OUT NOW! ATATATATAATATATAATATATATATA
Post by: bork on October 23, 2014, 10:14:31 PM
I completely disagree with most of your points.  Loved the fast-paced, more action-oriented take on the game.

Please tell me that you're not trashing this just based on the Oda route.  The more challenging levels are the routes that open up after you clear the default ones.

Also seems rather extreme to give up on the genre because you didn't like one particular title. 
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: SAMURAI WARRIORS 4! OUT NOW! ATATATATAATATATAATATATATATA
Post by: Himu on October 23, 2014, 10:46:43 PM
It's based on more than the Oda route. It's based on four routes, actually, and I shouldn't have to play through every single route on the hardest modes just to get a sliver of challenge or encounter an interesting stage, Lyte. That's bullshit and you know it.

And it's not just one title. It's this combined with DW8 vanilla. I feel like I should give them another chance, with DW8 Empires or SW4 XL but it just seems clear that they want to make Musou more action-focused to help out limping sales. I want to give them another chance. But SW is my favorite Musou series and I don't like this direction. If I don't like this direction, why should I bother with others? Looking online, I'm just about the only person who feels this way, so it feels futile to keep throwing money at KT, when it's obvious most of their fanbase are perfectly fine with their new direction.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: SAMURAI WARRIORS 4! OUT NOW! ATATATATAATATATAATATATATATA
Post by: bork on October 23, 2014, 10:52:53 PM
It's based on more than the Oda route. It's based on four routes, actually, and I shouldn't have to play through every single route on the hardest modes just to get a sliver of challenge, Lyte. That's bullshit and you know it.

I have no idea what you've played.  Hence why I suggested playing more of the game first.

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And it's not just one title. It's this combined with DW8 vanilla. I feel like I should give them another chance, with DW8 Empires or SW4 XL but it just seems clear that they want to make Musou more action-focused to help out limping sales. I want to give them another chance. But SW is my favorite Musou series and I don't like this direction. If I don't like this direction, why should I bother with others? Looking online, I'm just about the only person who feels this way, so it feels futile to keep throwing money at KT, when it's obvious most of their fanbase are perfectly fine with their new direction.

Yeah, you kind of are.  If you want more of a strategy focus, why wouldn't you wait for empires games?  And who cares about DW8 when you liked XL, right?  They fixed your problems with it, I thought.

Maybe you should just stop buying the vanilla releases or check out some of the other games.  Did you ever try the last Gundam Warriors or One Piece 2?

BTW, a lot of people hated Samurai Warriors 3.  4 is very different compared to it and that's probably why.  One thing those videos you posted did was made me realize that now I can pick up Sengoku Musou 2 XL HD on Vita, since I have a system for my J-account (it's download only on Vita).  They also have Empires HD. 
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Post by: Himu on October 23, 2014, 11:03:36 PM
yeah, I didn't like 8 vanilla. I thought 8 xl was great, though.

I guess getting vanilla ones should be out for me like you say. And I felt I shouldn't wait for Empires because strategy is integral to SW's experience for me. It's even in SW: Chronicles, so I thought it'd be in this too. I didn't get the new Gundam game and One Piece Warriors 2 eventually gets a bit boring. I guess I'll have to wait for SW3XL or whatever. When does DW8 Empires come out?
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Post by: Bebpo on October 23, 2014, 11:08:30 PM
Are the maps smaller?  I want a musou like gundam musou 3 again.
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Post by: Himu on October 23, 2014, 11:12:37 PM
The maps in Chronicles mode are small. I think you'd like it Bebpo.
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Post by: bork on October 24, 2014, 08:04:56 AM
yeah, I didn't like 8 vanilla. I thought 8 xl was great, though.

I guess getting vanilla ones should be out for me like you say. And I felt I shouldn't wait for Empires because strategy is integral to SW's experience for me. It's even in SW: Chronicles, so I thought it'd be in this too.

Makes sense to me to give the game more of an action focus, since there is already Chronicles and Empires.  But I really think you need to go through all the story routes before judging the game.  I don't think it will sway your opinion, but the last two unlockable routes the longest and have the most challenging levels in the game.

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I didn't get the new Gundam game and One Piece Warriors 2 eventually gets a bit boring. I guess I'll have to wait for SW3XL or whatever. When does DW8 Empires come out?

Empires isn't even out in Japan yet, so it's gonna be a while.  Chronicles comes out in December in Japan.  I think I'm gonna import the Vita version.  Probably doesn't seem like a surprise but I wasn't planning on it initially.  I wanted there to be a console version but with the Vita TV that doesn't matter anymore, I suppose.

I mention Gundam because it does have a bit more of a strategy focus, what with holding/conquering zones and rushing to aid allies and all that.  I need to get back to that game.  Stopped because I wanted to start it all over again on my Japanese account for DLC use.
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Post by: bork on October 24, 2014, 08:06:57 AM
Are the maps smaller?  I want a musou like gundam musou 3 again.

The story mode maps are a bit smaller (and the Chronicle mode maps are much smaller, like Himu said), plus with the game's speed and character switching system, you're able to zip around the maps waaaaay faster than all the other musou games.
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Post by: Himu on October 24, 2014, 10:50:17 AM
Wow. Chronicles mode becomes a breeze once you get to a certain level of have the right weapon. I'm like level 20 and have an upgraded 110 or weapon and I'm just mowing through enemies and it's ridiculous and this is on hard mode. I may need to bump it to Nightmare. This game has zero sense of balance wtf.
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Post by: Himu on October 24, 2014, 04:28:46 PM
http://youtu.be/1YX9aTRCfJw

Great launch trailer. :obama
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Post by: Himu on October 24, 2014, 10:01:49 PM
Ways to fix Samurai Warriors 4 in the XL expansion:

The core premise of a more action-focused SW is fine, but there needs to be balance.

1. Only hyper attack-based characters can use hyper attacks as they are now and they should be horrifically nerfed.
2. All other characters, change their triangle hyper to a normal charge move. This gives all characters a normal moveset and a charge moveset.
3. Enemy officers should use musous. Enemy AI in general needs to be upped.
4. A Tachibana clan campaign. Why is there no Tachibana campaign? My poor Ginchiyo.
5. Skills should be removable and capable of being added to every weapon. Skills should be drops or learned ala DW8.
6. Loot drops should be much better than we're getting in vanilla SW4.
7. Drop the gem system, it's stupid and easily abusable.
8. Bring back bodyguards. Sumo bodyguard, ninja bodyguard, samurai bodyguard, priest bodyguards, whatever. Have a mode that allows you to level them.
9. More side missions on maps.
10. More diversity among characters. Ninja paths for example should be in every single stage.
11. Intros and exits for every enemy officer when duels happen. Make the duel intros dynamic that give off the feeling of a true samurai duel like the stand off in this:

(http://i.imgur.com/hC4d8qB.gif)

Before a big confrontation, I want my character to have a stare off with person whose butt I'm about to kick.

12. Officer death animations need to come back. When I kill officers I want to see a grisly death scene with a memorable quote like,"I...I thought they said there would be white!?!" *collapse*



The potential is there.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: SAMURAI WARRIORS 4! OUT NOW! ATATATATAATATATAATATATATATA
Post by: Van Cruncheon on October 24, 2014, 10:03:29 PM
hyper attacks need to be nerfed. there is no reason to mash anything other than triangle save during the initial officer confrontation, and then it's square once, triangle x 100000000 (with some X presses thrown in to combo link).

pretty as sw4 is, sw3 xl was the better game.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: SAMURAI WARRIORS 4! OUT NOW! ATATATATAATATATAATATATATATA
Post by: Himu on October 24, 2014, 10:05:09 PM
Hyper attacks are dog shit. :pacspit
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: SAMURAI WARRIORS 4! OUT NOW! ATATATATAATATATAATATATATATA
Post by: Van Cruncheon on October 24, 2014, 10:07:23 PM
by "dog shit" you better mean "horribly overpowered in a gamebreaking way" or i'mma make of your mouth such a toilet
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: SAMURAI WARRIORS 4! OUT NOW! ATATATATAATATATAATATATATATA
Post by: Himu on October 24, 2014, 10:11:40 PM
the first one :pacspit

Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: SAMURAI WARRIORS 4! OUT NOW! ATATATATAATATATAATATATATATA
Post by: Himu on October 24, 2014, 11:46:32 PM
Takeda campaign > Oda campaign

wonder how they'll handle tokugawa's.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: SAMURAI WARRIORS 4! OUT NOW! ATATATATAATATATAATATATATATA
Post by: bork on October 25, 2014, 12:42:03 AM
hyper attacks need to be nerfed. there is no reason to mash anything other than triangle save during the initial officer confrontation, and then it's square once, triangle x 100000000 (with some X presses thrown in to combo link).

Yeah, they do need nerfing-- don't think anyone is arguing the opposite.  But as you progress, you should find that you're not going to be able to mash triangle like that because the frequency of officers will increase and they will repel those attacks more.

pretty as sw4 is, sw3 xl was the better game.

SW3 (all versions) was not very well-received, which I suspect is why SW4 turned out so differently.  It's funny seeing some of the criticisms you guys have for SW4 when many felt that SW3 was too repetitive, with the same types of mission goals throughout the majority of the stages and crappy extra game play modes.  Diehard fans prefer SW1 and SW2 over SW3 by quite a bit.  I suspect Himu would feel that SW2 is a much better game based on previous posts.

I like the crazy-fast action focus SW4 has.  With so many of these musou games out, it's good that they are trying different things with these titles.

Anyway, next up is Chronicles 3. 
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: SAMURAI WARRIORS 4! OUT NOW! ATATATATAATATATAATATATATATA
Post by: bork on October 25, 2014, 01:17:49 AM
Chronicle is sounding more and more like the "XL" version of this game.  But this is Koei so I expect to see an XL version for the consoles.   :P

http://koei.wikia.com/wiki/Sengoku_Musou_Chronicle_3

Himu, have you checked out videos of Hyrule Warriors game play?  Might be more to your liking.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: SAMURAI WARRIORS 4! OUT NOW! ATATATATAATATATAATATATATATA
Post by: eleuin on October 25, 2014, 09:12:05 PM
Chronicle is sounding more and more like the "XL" version of this game.  But this is Koei so I expect to see an XL version for the consoles.   :P

http://koei.wikia.com/wiki/Sengoku_Musou_Chronicle_3

Himu, have you checked out videos of Hyrule Warriors game play?  Might be more to your liking.

I hope this gets localized, rather not buy any more warriors games for the PS3 and I need another reason to own a vita.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: SAMURAI WARRIORS 4! OUT NOW! ATATATATAATATATAATATATATATA
Post by: Himu on October 27, 2014, 12:37:42 AM
Kai owns. Lover her personality, love her move set. I'm enjoying the game more by using the characters by their type. For example, Ina is a special type, so I use her special all the time. Yukimura is a power type, so I use his charge move set. Kai is a normal type so I use her normals a lot. I'm try to use hyper only when I need to, for example, for crowd control, or when I need to get a way FAST, or when I need musou NOW. The game is much more enjoyable that way when you leave hyper moves for mostly hyper characters. It takes restraint because hyper attacks have NO downside at all and can be easily abused, but it's making the game much more enjoyable for me.

Sanada storyline can be surprisingly tough too.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: SAMURAI WARRIORS 4! OUT NOW! ATATATATAATATATAATATATATATA
Post by: Himu on October 27, 2014, 04:07:53 AM
Finished Sanada story.

The storytelling in this game is pretty bad. There's barely any sense of flow. Most stages have no purpose or the purpose isn't explicitly told. In the Sanada storyline, I was expecting this great build up to Nobuyuki v Yukimura given the fact that's what Koei is mostly advertising story-wise with this one, and it never happened. There's no reason given for Nobuyuki to join with Ieyasu. One map he's with the Sanada's, next map he's married to Ina and on the Tokugawa side. Then it skips 15 years to Siege of Osaka and I'm just left with a vocal "what". The end result feels half assed given that this took two Clans just to tell, without any motivations given. Historically, there are a lot of ideas and theories on why Masayuki and Yukimura joined the Toyotomi, none of which are explored here. In past Samurai Warrior warriors games, noticeably 2, they give the excuse of friendship with Mitsunari. Here? Nothing. Nobuyuki's reasoning is even more vague given his previous care for his family name and brother. He meets Ina just once in the story, weapons drawn, makes no mention of Tokugawa again, but suddenly joins him. It's poorly explained.

spoiler (click to show/hide)
More than that, the finale duel cutscene between Yukimura and Nobuyuki was pretty lame. In history and folklore, it's been said that Yukimura became injured gravely, and became too tired to fight, so he ended up telling his opponents his clan and name, that he was injured, and that he would wish to die as an honorable warrior, to which his head was cut off. Past games did this pretty well (see: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=um_lwaplL08). Here, Nobuyuki and him fight. Nobuyuki doesn't even hit Yukimura with a blow. Yukimura doesn't even look tired. He just cartoonishly runs towards his death. it's fucking hilarious.
[close]

Given that this was Koei's main advertised story for the story mode, I'm not too impressed. Oda's story campaign was similarly bad. I just can't help but feel like story mode is rushed. From the map design, to the actual story writing. It lacks that Koei zeal for me, which is striking because Dynasty Warriors 7 and 8 particularly do a pretty great job of presenting their characters, their goals, and their stories, unlike Samurai Warriors 4.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: SAMURAI WARRIORS 4! OUT NOW! ATATATATAATATATAATATATATATA
Post by: bork on October 28, 2014, 07:59:18 AM
Dragon Quest Heroes will be coming out on 2/26.

The metal slime PS4 "bundle" is actually coming out on 12/11 this year and will come with a voucher to download Heroes on 2/25.

Why not just wait for the retail release and sell it as a (real) bundle?   ???
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: SAMURAI WARRIORS 4! OUT NOW! ATATATATAATATATAATATATATATA
Post by: bork on October 29, 2014, 08:53:45 AM
That shaky cam  :-X

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TTdxGf1TVts
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: DW8 Empires Out 1/27 In U.S. On STEAM/PS3/PS4/XBone
Post by: bork on October 30, 2014, 09:48:50 AM
Tecmo Koei just confirmed that Dynasty Warriors 8 Empires will be getting an English releases on 1/27 on PS3, PS4, XBone, and...STEAM.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: DW8 Empires Out 1/27 In U.S. On STEAM/PS3/PS4/XBone
Post by: bork on November 06, 2014, 12:07:27 AM
The Sengoku Musou Chronicles 3 demo is up on J-PSN and the J-eShop.  The 3DS version has a pretty steady framerate with 3D off (noticeably worse with it on, which is disappointing on the N3DS), but looks pretty bad and is missing a lot of detail, from the flat stage layout to the missing close-up animations when doing musou attacks.  The Vita version looks pretty much like Sengoku Musou 4 and the difference is like night and day when compared to the 3DS version. 

The demo limits you to eight minutes of play time (and only three tries on 3DS  :lol), so it's hard to get a feel for everything, but the game is pretty much a more strategy-oriented version of SM4, as expected.  Switching and commanding characters is different, but apart from that the game play is the same.  I think this is probably the version of the game that those disappointed with the more straight-out action version of SW4 will like, but for whatever reason this game is currently only on the portables, so Himu is out and Van Cruncheon would have to switch his Vita to a Japanese account, which is a pain in the ass and requires a second memory card.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Samurai Warriors 4 II Announced
Post by: bork on November 17, 2014, 08:24:40 AM
Sengoku Musou 4 II has been announced.  Well, not officially but this magazine image was just released:

(http://puu.sh/cUnyw/8e41286bfd.jpg)

Speculation is that they're dropping the XL name and expansions in general due to a lawsuit by Capcom, claiming patent ownership over expansion discs.  Because Capcom would rather sue for money instead of making new games.  Please understand.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Samurai Warriors 4 II Announced
Post by: bork on November 17, 2014, 09:10:34 AM
Wow, that's a pretty fast release...Chronicles 3 is out in December!  Wonder if that's worth skipping now...

Quote
戦国無双4 - II
Sengoku Musou 4 - II

Created by: KOEI
Console: PlayStation 3, PlayStation Vita & Playstation 4
Release Date: 11 February 2015 [JP]


New Characters

井伊直政 Ii Naomasa (Seiyuu: Konishi Katsuyuki, aka Maeda Toshiie)
Weapon: Longspear
Description: TBD

Misc. Information
TBD
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Samurai Warriors 4 II Announced
Post by: Joe Molotov on November 17, 2014, 10:59:00 AM
Square-Enix should sue them for putting numbers after other numbers.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Samurai Warriors 4 II Announced
Post by: bork on November 17, 2014, 01:07:38 PM
Square-Enix should sue them for putting numbers after other numbers.

Watch it happen!
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Samurai Warriors 4 II Announced
Post by: bork on November 18, 2014, 08:16:39 AM
Quote
Though titled Samurai Warriors 4-II, the game is less a sequel, and more so “another Samurai Warriors 4.” (Think Xtreme Legends.) It will feature new military commander Ii Naomasa (CV: Katsuyuki Konishi, Weapon: Spear), as well as new stages Koshu, Osaka Castle, Honzugawa Gate, Oshu, and Kuisegawa. The game’s Musou Enbu story mode will be ‘reborn’ with a new story different from the previous game.

Additionally, the Infinite Castle survival mode from the original Samurai Warriors will return. And the game will offer reforms of its Godspeed Action system, weapons and warhorse growth systems, and enemy military commander AI adjustments. Event scene backgrounds have been 3D-ified in that you can now move the camera around.

Development is currently 85 percent complete.

So the Infinite Castle is in this game too.  Again...what is the point of Chronicles 3?   :dizzy
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Samurai Warriors 4 II Announced
Post by: MoxManiac on November 19, 2014, 06:54:07 PM
New story? I wonder how that will work
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Samurai Warriors 4 II Announced
Post by: Bebpo on December 01, 2014, 11:36:40 PM
You know, I'm trying to play this Zelda musou 2p but the framerate is SO BAD that I can't even do my combo strings because the I keep getting 3 light -> strong when I want to do 2 light -> strong.  I can't remember the last time I played a game so choppy it affected the actual controls.

Why??  The game looks just as ugly as sin as most musou games on PS3 and Wii U is just as powerful as PS3/X360.  Why does the game run like crap.  With the visuals it has, I honestly expected 60fps like Gundam Musou 3.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Samurai Warriors 4 II Announced
Post by: bork on December 02, 2014, 07:56:55 AM
Play it 1P.

 :yeshrug

None of the musou games on Wii U run as well as their PS3 counterparts, AFAIK.  Zelda looks good and runs pretty well in single player though.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Samurai Warriors 4 II Announced
Post by: Bebpo on December 02, 2014, 12:31:08 PM
When I played 1p, it was still under 30fps...again, how is this not 60fps??


Just don't understand how people can say Hyrule is a good warriors game when the framerate is dogshit.  It really affects the playability when it's so choppy.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Samurai Warriors 4 II Announced
Post by: HyperZoneWasAwesome on December 02, 2014, 01:44:43 PM
what's a good gateway for these games.

I haven't really tried any sort of Warriors game since the PS2 .  Should I try out any of the spin offs first (Gundam, Fist of the North Star), or Sengoku Basara, or what.  This shit seems impenetrable to a guy who's been out of it for a decade plus.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Samurai Warriors 4 II Announced
Post by: Bebpo on December 02, 2014, 03:14:39 PM
Warriors Orochi 3 is cool if you have no preference. 


If you like a particular franchise that there is a version of (Fist, Gundam, One Piece, Zelda) go for that.  Sengoku Basara is a pretty different type of game.  A lot of people for some inexplicable reason prefer Basara because they think it's more of a character action game, but it's still shallow as fuck compared to DMC/Bayo/NG/MGR and closer in combat depth to Streets of Rage.  Still, it's slightly more combat depth than Musou games which are just doing pre-set chains and linking them with dashes and super attacks, BUT the good musou games have a real strategic element to the overall map domination that's totally missing in Basara, so personally I'll take the strategy w/mindless combat over slightly better but still mindless and hardly any strategy Basara.

Basara has better characters/story/cutscenes/art though.  It's goofy and ridiculous and has giant mech dudes and I enjoy it for that, but I'm a musou fan.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Samurai Warriors 4 II Announced
Post by: bork on December 02, 2014, 03:17:46 PM
When I played 1p, it was still under 30fps...again, how is this not 60fps??

Wii U?  Koei?  I dunno.  It runs pretty smoothly in 1P to me.  I have no complaints there.  If you want the best framerate, play DW8XL on PC.  Not even SW4 on PS4 hits a constant 60 FPS.

Just don't understand how people can say Hyrule is a good warriors game when the framerate is dogshit.  It really affects the playability when it's so choppy.

It's not dogshit in single player.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Samurai Warriors 4 II Announced
Post by: bork on December 02, 2014, 03:29:15 PM
what's a good gateway for these games.

I haven't really tried any sort of Warriors game since the PS2 .  Should I try out any of the spin offs first (Gundam, Fist of the North Star), or Sengoku Basara, or what.  This shit seems impenetrable to a guy who's been out of it for a decade plus.

I agree with Bebpo- Start with Warriors Orochi 3.  There's multiple versions of this game out there-- the most recent -and last- version of the game is Warriors Orochi 3 Ultimate, which is available on PS3, PS4, Vita, and Xbone.  Warriors Orochi 3 has all the characters from Dynasty Warriors (up to DW7XL/Empires) and Samurai Warriors (up to SW3XL), plus its own unique characters and guest characters from other games, including all of the playable characters from Ninja Gaiden 1-3.

Dynasty Warriors 8 XL and Samurai Warriors 4 are both new starts for their respective series.  You could also start with either of those, but I'd still go with WO3U simply because it offers a massive character roster and hours upon hours of game play, plus feels like a good mix of older and newer musou game play. 

TBH you really can't go wrong with any of the recent Koei musou games.  They're all pretty well made and you'll know what to expect from any of them.  The main differences are in the game play systems and how action or strategy oriented they are.  Samurai Warriors 4 is more action-oriented, which I loved, but some of the other members here were turned off by this.  I would avoid the second Fist Of The North Star game (it's total crap) and would skip the first One Piece game in favor of its much better sequel.  If you have a Wii U, Hyrule Warriors is also an excellent title and good fusion of Zelda and musou game play.

Sengoku Basara is made by Capcom and doesn't quite play the same way as the Koei games do.  It's much more of a straight-out beat-em-up compared to most of the Koei games, and also completely insane/over-the-top in a lot of its design.  Only the first game, heavily changed up and released as "Devil Kings" on PS2, and the third game, released on PS3 and Wii, made it over here, though.  The third game got a Japanese-only expansion and Sengoku Basara 4, which is easily the best in the series, came out earlier this year.

Fist Of The North Star: Ken's Rage is also more beat-em-up like in its story mode level progression, although it does offer a more traditional musou-style mode where you have to capture/defend territory points too.  I enjoyed it quite a bit, although I like I said, avoid the shitty sequel.

Also, when you typically see someone bash these games as "mindless button-mashers," it's because they're playing them on normal or easier difficulty levels.  These games are better served on harder difficulties, otherwise there isn't as much challenge, if any.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Samurai Warriors 4 II Announced
Post by: The Legend of Sunblade on December 02, 2014, 04:05:09 PM
Thirding Orochi 3 as a gateway game for the rest of the series. I'd never given the main Dynasty Warriors series a shot because I was always intimidated by the gargantuan cast of unfamiliar characters, but knew the Samurai ones from playing the first game (and some general Japanese history). After playing Orochi 3, I felt much more confident in buying DW7, 7XL, 8 and 8XL after it since I knee what to expect.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Samurai Warriors 4 II Announced
Post by: bork on December 02, 2014, 04:19:36 PM
Thirding Orochi 3 as a gateway game for the rest of the series. I'd never given the main Dynasty Warriors series a shot because I was always intimidated by the gargantuan cast of unfamiliar characters, but knew the Samurai ones from playing the first game (and some general Japanese history). After playing Orochi 3, I felt much more confident in buying DW7, 7XL, 8 and 8XL after it since I knee what to expect.

Eh, I don't think being really familiar with the characters matters when the DW games are essentially retelling the same story over and over again.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Samurai Warriors 4 II Announced
Post by: The Legend of Sunblade on December 02, 2014, 04:36:39 PM
Oh I know that much, but at that time I had absolutely zero knowledge of ROTTK and felt a little intimidated by the thought of buying into a game with such a huge cast of characters whom I knew nothing about. It sounds a little silly, but it's the reason I never bought a DW before it! I figured that if I liked the gameplay, I may as well play the spin-offs of properties I was familiar with instead.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Samurai Warriors 4 II Announced
Post by: demi on December 08, 2014, 09:57:59 AM
Hyrule Warriors $48 (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00KWEHBAG/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=B00KWEHBAG&linkCode=as2&tag=thbo09f-20&linkId=4THK5XOC7AI4BBMC)
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Samurai Warriors 4 II Announced
Post by: Bebpo on December 14, 2014, 01:22:34 AM
After playing some more Hyrule Warriors (which is alright) I popped in One Piece Musou 2 for comparison since I hadn't played that one more than a few hours.  Framerate sucks in OPM2 as well but man, some of the OPM2 characters are damn fun to play as.  Was playing as Marco, the bird guy and flying around doing huge radius all enemy attacking at fast speed was badass.  Forgot how fun musou games can be.  I should get back to playing OPM2.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Samurai Warriors 4 II Announced
Post by: bork on December 18, 2014, 08:03:51 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8AOPEjwhrg

Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Samurai Warriors 4 II Announced
Post by: Bebpo on December 18, 2014, 05:45:37 PM
That actually looks pretty nice coming from Hyrule Warriors and One Piece M2.  I skipped SW4 sine Prole and a lot of you hated the balance, but maybe if this one is more balanced it'll be fun to jump in.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Samurai Warriors 4 II Announced
Post by: Himu on December 18, 2014, 06:05:53 PM
Looks like you can still beast through entire groups of enemies with just hyper moves. They show a clip with a shield minion blocking the hyper move, but all it does is push back the character, and they go and hyper around the shield guys anyways.

Nothing in that video gives confidence they've fixed really, anything about SW2's awful balance. I'm pretty sure that the hardest mode will be the equivalent of easy mode this time as well.

The DW/Basara-ificiation of SW continues.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Samurai Warriors 4 II Announced
Post by: bork on December 18, 2014, 10:25:33 PM
The godspeed (hyper) attacks that you don't like are being nerfed in SW4 II.  More soldier types will now be able to block it, too.  The change in effectiveness to those attacks, plus the new weapon upgrading system and the redone story mode are the big changes in the game.  The infinite castle mode from SW Chronicles 3 will also be available. 
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Samurai Warriors 4 II Announced
Post by: bork on December 18, 2014, 10:30:59 PM
More detailed:

Quote
    Story Mode reverts to a style reminiscent to previous titles. Stories have a distinguished protagonist and partner with results different from the ones seen in the vanilla title. Cleared individual stories can be experienced in Free Mode.
    Hyper attacks will be more effective when ally morale is high. Certain areas on the battlefield are fortified to inhibit these attacks.
    Enemy AI has been further reworked to match the player character's movements. Maps should have friendlier camera work for horse riding than before.
    Character attributes receive a special boost if equipped armaments share the same attributes. It is possible to surpass maximum capacity for weapons and so forth in this title.
    War scrolls can be used to instantly implement weapon skills onto a weapon. The pace for adding skills have been altered. New skills are in the game.
    Mounts can be strengthened to have additional attributes.
    The Dream Castle Mode from Chronicle 3 shall be present. New areas for this mode are being added to distinguish itself from the portable versions.
    Offline and online co-op is available for all modes.
    Event scenes have rotatable 3D backdrops and revised special effects.
    Downloadable content so far includes costumes.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Samurai Warriors 4 II Announced
Post by: Himu on December 18, 2014, 10:51:55 PM
So the lesson is don't buy main line warriors games unless it's an XL.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Samurai Warriors 4 II Announced
Post by: bork on December 18, 2014, 11:10:15 PM
So the lesson is don't buy main line warriors games unless it's an XL.

They're supposedly not doing XL games anymore.   :lol
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Samurai Warriors 4 II Announced
Post by: Himu on December 19, 2014, 12:11:54 AM
Well 2 might as well be titled XL I mean, in terms of feature set.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Samurai Warriors 4 II Announced
Post by: bork on December 19, 2014, 07:52:59 AM
Don't think we would have gotten that kind of full reworking in an XL pack.  So this Capcom XL-patent-bullshit thing might be good for us.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Samurai Warriors 4 II Announced
Post by: bork on December 21, 2014, 11:39:42 PM
One Piece Pirate Warriors 3 was announced for the U.S....with one additional platform listed: PC (Steam)!
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Samurai Warriors 4 II Announced
Post by: MoxManiac on December 23, 2014, 08:08:32 AM
I hope Pirate Warriors 3 is as good as 2.

Apparently DW8 Empires is getting a physical release in february  :o
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Samurai Warriors 4 II Announced
Post by: bork on December 23, 2014, 08:16:06 AM
I hope Pirate Warriors 3 is as good as 2.

Apparently DW8 Empires is getting a physical release in february  :o

1/27 is the current release date.  I might get Empires on PC this time around.  Just picked up DW8XL in the Steam sale for $16 and am looking forward to trying it at a supposedly rock-solid 60 FPS.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Samurai Warriors 4 II Announced
Post by: Bebpo on December 23, 2014, 10:37:16 AM
Is DW8 XL PC worth picking up on sale if you already have WO3, DW7, and are planning on gonna getting SW4XL? 
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Samurai Warriors 4 II Announced
Post by: Himu on December 23, 2014, 10:44:43 AM
Drop DW7. DW8XL is much much better. Play WO3, it's probably the GOAT musou. Stop buying games because you have the money and play the ones you have.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Samurai Warriors 4 II Announced
Post by: archie4208 on December 23, 2014, 11:18:51 AM
Why does the DW8 "Complete Edition" on Steam have $200 of DLC?  ???
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Samurai Warriors 4 II Announced
Post by: Bebpo on December 23, 2014, 11:57:17 AM
Drop DW7. DW8XL is much much better. Play WO3, it's probably the GOAT musou. Stop buying games because you have the money and play the ones you have.

Wasn't playing DW7, just saying if you have WO3, any reason to play DW8 over that?
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Samurai Warriors 4 II Announced
Post by: bork on December 23, 2014, 12:13:49 PM
Drop DW7. DW8XL is much much better. Play WO3, it's probably the GOAT musou. Stop buying games because you have the money and play the ones you have.

Wasn't playing DW7, just saying if you have WO3, any reason to play DW8 over that?

Besides the obvious (different characters, levels, and story), the play mechanics are a little different.  The two-weapon system from DW7 is back.  Plus there's the Ambition mode which could be a whole game by itself and is a little more strategy-oriented.  DW8XL is a great game...the question is how much musou do you want?  But it's hard to say no to a $16 price.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Samurai Warriors 4 II Announced
Post by: Himu on December 23, 2014, 01:58:20 PM
Why does the DW8 "Complete Edition" on Steam have $200 of DLC?  ???

Because fuck you :yeshrug
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Samurai Warriors 4 II Announced
Post by: Trent Dole on December 23, 2014, 02:47:29 PM
Why does the DW8 "Complete Edition" on Steam have $200 of DLC?  ???

Because fuck you :yeshrug
Yeah that's one answer, the other is that it's the complete two discs of DW8 and DW8 Xl sammiched together and the DLC for the two is a separate thing.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Samurai Warriors 4 II Announced
Post by: Bebpo on December 23, 2014, 09:03:53 PM
Drop DW7. DW8XL is much much better. Play WO3, it's probably the GOAT musou. Stop buying games because you have the money and play the ones you have.

Wasn't playing DW7, just saying if you have WO3, any reason to play DW8 over that?

Besides the obvious (different characters, levels, and story), the play mechanics are a little different.  The two-weapon system from DW7 is back.  Plus there's the Ambition mode which could be a whole game by itself and is a little more strategy-oriented.  DW8XL is a great game...the question is how much musou do you want?  But it's hard to say no to a $16 price.

Thanks Bork, can't ever have enough Musou (plus I wanna see how Musou games look/run on PC to decide whether to get One Piece 3 on Steam or PS4) so picked it up.  Gonna slash up some dudes tonight!
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Samurai Warriors 4 II Announced
Post by: a slime appears on December 31, 2014, 11:59:47 AM
Looks like I'll be sticking to only off-brand Musou games. Hyrule Warriors was fun as fuck and I'll be buying Dragon Quest Heroes day one.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Samurai Warriors 4 II Announced
Post by: bork on December 31, 2014, 12:48:36 PM
I need to get back to Hyrule Warriors.  It's been neglected.   :-[  Well, I do have a few days off after today...
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Samurai Warriors 4 II Announced
Post by: archie4208 on December 31, 2014, 01:04:09 PM
I've never been a huge fan of musou games, but I've been addicted to Hyrule Warriors lately due to the fanservice and soundtrack.

:bow https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wzi7UobHpAg :bow2
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Samurai Warriors 4 II Announced
Post by: MoxManiac on December 31, 2014, 05:55:28 PM
I need to get back to Hyrule Warriors.  It's been neglected.   :-[  Well, I do have a few days off after today...

Adventure mode can be obnixious about grinding due to the slow as molasses leveling system, but there are some scenarios in there that do execute the core musou appeal really well: army and time management and deciding where to focus on the map under pressure.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Samurai Warriors 4 II Announced
Post by: a slime appears on December 31, 2014, 08:24:38 PM
Musou is just fun as fuck in general. I'm a super casual fan though, I pick a game once every couple of years.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Samurai Warriors 4 II Announced
Post by: bork on January 08, 2015, 11:37:39 AM
SUPER-SEXY COSTUME~

(http://gematsu.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/SW4-II_Presentation_01-07-15_001-600x334.jpg)
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Samurai Warriors 4 II Announced
Post by: bork on January 08, 2015, 11:39:18 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3Y-qKQxkr8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OoceyKGVGPg
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Samurai Warriors 4 II Announced
Post by: Himu on January 08, 2015, 01:07:16 PM
SUPER-SEXY COSTUME~

(http://gematsu.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/SW4-II_Presentation_01-07-15_001-600x334.jpg)
:yuck
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Samurai Warriors 4 II Announced
Post by: Trent Dole on January 08, 2015, 01:24:01 PM
SUPER-SEXY COSTUME~

(http://gematsu.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/SW4-II_Presentation_01-07-15_001-600x334.jpg)
:yuck
TEAM NINJA'S SAMURAI WARRIORS
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Samurai Warriors 4 II Announced
Post by: bork on January 08, 2015, 02:22:10 PM
SUPER-SEXY COSTUME~

(http://gematsu.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/SW4-II_Presentation_01-07-15_001-600x334.jpg)
:yuck
TEAM NINJA'S SAMURAI WARRIORS

Exactly what I thought  :lol :lol :lol

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Totally using that catgirl costume :3  :uguu
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Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Samurai Warriors 4 II Announced
Post by: bork on January 20, 2015, 07:13:58 AM
Capcom announced Sengoku Basara 4 Sumeragi for PS3 and PS4.  Details coming soon.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Samurai Warriors 4 II Announced
Post by: bork on January 20, 2015, 01:13:03 PM
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Today, Capcom announced Sengoku Basara 4: Sumeragi, an updated version of the game, which will also be on PS4. Details from this week’s issue of Famitsu magazine reveal that the game will have a collaboration with Tales of Zestiria. [Thanks, Game Jouhou.]

While the magazine didn’t go too far into specific details, it reports that the collaboration with Tales of Zestiria will include costumes of Sorey, Mikleo, and others for Sengoku Basara 4: Sumeragi.

We’ve yet to hear anything about a Sengoku Basara collaboration on the Tales of Zestiria side, but with the game releasing in two days, we might hear of one last surprise before its launch.

Additionally, the magazine reveals three new generals that will be playable in Sengoku Basara 4: Sumeragi.

Ashikaga Yoshiteru: He was an NPC in the original game, but he’ll be back using a sceptor as a special form-changing weapon with different modes between katana, spear, and bow. A certain skill will bring out a roulette, which changes the style depending on what you get.

Sen no Rikyu: Rikyu will fight using a fan, and is said to have some sort of split-personality disorder going on, which changes according to the type of move you use.

Kyugoku Maria: She was also an NPC in the original game, but she’ll be playable this time around, using her long cloths as whip-like weapons.

Finally, the game will also introduce a “Battle Roulette” system. This system will have a roulette appear on the screen upon meeting certain conditions, and depending on what you get, it’ll give you a different way to play. You can collect medals from the roulette, and can be exchanged for special items, with a total of 167 of them to collect.

Sengoku Basara 4: Sumeragi will release in Japan this summer for PlayStation 4 and PlayStation 3. The PS4 version will run in full HD and 60fps.

Read more at http://www.siliconera.com/2015/01/20/sengoku-basara-4-sumeragi-collaborates-tales-zestiria/#fQSzcJPkEOx0Lc8Z.99
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Sengoku Basara 4 Sumeragi And SW4-II Announced
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on January 22, 2015, 10:48:38 PM
I decided to replay Hyrule Warriors and give it another chance.  I initially did not like it because it seems so simple compared to WO3 Ultimate.  I'm liking it a lot better the second time around but it is a B-tier Musou game.  Reminds me a lot of Dynasty Warriors 8: kind of a step back but it's good enough.  It probably doesn't help that I don't give two shits about Zelda lore or fan service.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Sengoku Basara 4 Sumeragi And SW4-II Announced
Post by: bork on January 23, 2015, 08:01:23 AM
It has a lot more content than it seems, which I like.  All the DLC adds up to essentially be a $20 'XL' pack for the game.  I need to get back to it and play through the challenge maps, since there's more weapons to unlock (some of them essentially turn Link into different characters), but we're coming up on more musou in February and I don't want to burn out on these games.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Sengoku Basara 4 Sumeragi And SW4-II Announced
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on January 24, 2015, 07:45:28 AM
True.  I think that was another reason why I didn't care much for Hyrule Warriors the first time: I just started playing it right after I was done with WO3 Ultimate.  This time around, I took a couple month break from gaming before getting into it again.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Sengoku Basara 4 Sumeragi And SW4-II Announced
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on January 28, 2015, 08:16:33 AM
I beat the main game and that was decent but short lived (took me maybe 8 hours).  Got the 1,000 KO Gold Skulltulas on all of the stages.  The Challenge maps are kind of annoying, mostly because in some of the stages, you are limited to who you can use.  Naturally for the most part they tend to be characters I barely use and I get my ass kicked.  I can go to the Training Dojo to boost their levels but it seems like what I have to do eventually is replay stages over and over again until they're leveled enough to win their stages.  Musou games can be massive time sinks and I'm not sure Hyrule Warriors is worth the probable 80-100 hour investment to clear the maps.

Also for the Twilight Princess map, why does the map use NES/8-bit sprites?  I bought the overall DLC so I believe we're getting a Majora's Mask stage next month if I recall correctly.

I think I'm ready to shelve this game for a while.  I'll return to it later, complete the challenge maps, and get the hard mode gold skulltulas.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Sengoku Basara 4 Sumeragi And SW4-II Announced
Post by: bork on January 28, 2015, 08:34:03 AM
Yep, next month is Majora's Mask stuff including playable Kid Link and...Tingle.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Sengoku Basara 4 Sumeragi And SW4-II Announced
Post by: bork on February 02, 2015, 08:27:52 AM
New Dragon Quest Heroes footage.  This has no Western release date yet.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ANmUthdkCsM
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Sengoku Basara 4 Sumeragi And SW4-II Announced
Post by: bork on February 02, 2015, 08:30:32 AM
The attacks in this game are just getting crazier and crazier.   :lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hHCgRR6dJ0A
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Sengoku Basara 4 Sumeragi And SW4-II Announced
Post by: bork on February 12, 2015, 09:20:45 AM
Sengoku Musou 4-II is out, but I can't get an early read on how the game is.  I checked the KoeiWarriors forum for the game and just found some dude bitching and whining that the game sucks because you can't transfer your SM4 data over.  Not sure why anyone would have expected that when this game completely changed up the leveling/progression system and weapon attritubes.   :dizzy  You can import your edit characters though.

My copies just arrived and I do have my Vita with me at work, so maybe I'll get a chance to check it on during a break or at lunch.

Refresher on the changes:

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    Hyper attacks will be more effective when ally morale is high. Certain areas on the battlefield are fortified to inhibit these attacks.
    Enemy AI has been further reworked to match the player character's movements. Maps appear to have friendlier camera work for horse riding than before.
    Stats and personal skills can be learned for each character by using experience points on a grid in a manner resembling Conquest Mode.
    Character attributes receive a special boost if equipped armaments share the same attributes. It is possible to surpass maximum capacity for weapons and so forth in this title.
    War scrolls can be used to instantly implement weapon skills onto a weapon. The pace for adding skills have been altered. New skills are included in the game.
    Mounts can be strengthened to have additional attributes.
    Edit characters from the vanilla title can be transferred into this game through save data. They can be used in Free Mode and Infinite Castle Mode.
    Offline and online co-op is available for all modes.
    Event scenes have rotatable 3D backdrops and revised special effects.
    Downloadable content so far includes costumes.

Disregarding the edit characters, players cannot directly transfer their Samurai Warriors 4 save data into this game; having it at the start of their game rewards 10,000 gold and all twenty war scrolls.

Playable character debuting in this entry:

    Naomasa Ii

Stages

New stages include:

    Kuzegawa
    Honzugawa Gate
    Kizugawa
    Kai Province
    Koshu

Story Mode reverts to a style reminiscent to previous titles with thirteen character centric stories. Each chapter has a distinguished protagonist with partner interactions different from the vanilla title. Players are still free to choose whoever they desire for the five stages seen in each narrative.

Infinite Castle Mode

Fusion of previous games' Survival and Challenge Modes. It is split into two sub-headings: Main and Annex. Both regulate players to one character.

Main is a survival based experience. Complete various objectives on each floor to proceed up the castle. Enemies become stronger on higher levels yet they drop better rewards if defeated. Players can quit the castle climb by choosing the escape option available every ten levels.

Annex is the challenge section with four selections available.

    Warrior Room - Defeat as many enemies as possible within the time limit.
    Gold Room - Hit enemies to collect a mountain of gold before time runs out.
    Tempest Room - Race for record time whilst avoiding or stopping any obstacles in the way.
    Deathmatch Room - High difficulty room where enemies can instantly kill players in a single hit. Complete the other three rooms with a certain score to unlock.

Players can post their rankings online and compete for high scores. War scrolls can be easily purchased in this mode's shop.

Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Sengoku Basara 4 Sumeragi And SW4-II Announced
Post by: kick51 on February 12, 2015, 10:25:22 AM
bought Hyrule Warriors, haven't played it yet.  seems like a shallow but fun + addicting game with lots of content.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Sengoku Basara 4 Sumeragi And SW4-II Announced
Post by: bork on February 13, 2015, 08:19:00 AM
Did not get much of a chance to play SM4-II last night-- we've been house hunting and had to rush out to see a place right when I wanted to settle in and start playing this, lol.  It's funny...I got Sengoku Musou 4 right when we were moving into our current place...and now I'm getting 4-II as we're moving out.

Anyway, had enough time to mess around in the Infinite Castle and played through a stage in Naotora Ii's route.  (I know this is a normal thing in Koei musou games and we've seen this before in Dynasty Warriors, but it's just weird how Naomasa is running around with his adopted mother Naotora, who looks younger than him.)  At first glance, the game seems largely the same.  You pick a route and then can choose two characters from a group on each level.  The big difference that is apparently right away is the level progression system.  Each character now has a HUGE stat board that can be leveled up.  It's nothing like SM4 and it makes sense why data doesn't carry over because of this.  It's been said that enemy AI was improved, but on normal, I didn't see a difference.  Will try a harder setting next time.  Infinite Castle is pretty fun.  The main castle seems to a survival mode of sorts with multiple floors and a time limit counting down. 

Visually the game looks unsurprisingly the same as SM4.  Maybe it has just been a while, but it seemed like the Vita version looked a bit better.  The framerate actually seemed a little worse on both the PS4 and Vita versions, but was good overall.

I still need to play a lot more to get a real feel for this, or rather to determine exactly how much -or how little- it really differs from its predecessor.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Sengoku Basara 4 Sumeragi And SW4-II Announced
Post by: archie4208 on February 16, 2015, 11:47:55 AM
Just hit 50 hours in Hyrule Warriors.  :fbm

Shit's addictive.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Sengoku Basara 4 Sumeragi And SW4-II Announced
Post by: archie4208 on February 19, 2015, 09:26:13 PM
https://steamdb.info/sub/60128/

SW4-II might be coming to PC.  :omg
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Sengoku Basara 4 Sumeragi And SW4-II Announced
Post by: bork on February 20, 2015, 08:10:45 AM
 :jawalrus
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Sengoku Basara 4 Sumeragi And SW4-II Announced
Post by: bork on February 20, 2015, 12:52:51 PM
Next week!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rnz-gbK_Wgk
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Sengoku Basara 4 Sumeragi And SW4-II Announced
Post by: demi on February 25, 2015, 09:09:39 AM
DQ Heroes confirmed for English release

http://eu.square-enix.com/en/blog/dragon-quest-heroes-coming-west
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Sengoku Basara 4 Sumeragi And SW4-II Announced
Post by: kick51 on February 25, 2015, 10:13:48 AM
nice!  but now i don't want to play my copy of Hyrule Warriors because I feel like if I get heavily into one of them, I'll burn out and won't want to play the others  :'(
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Sengoku Basara 4 Sumeragi And SW4-II Announced
Post by: demi on February 25, 2015, 10:14:23 AM
Why? This isnt coming out for a while yet.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Sengoku Basara 4 Sumeragi And SW4-II Announced
Post by: archie4208 on February 25, 2015, 10:41:53 AM
PS4 exclusive in the west.  :fbm
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Sengoku Basara 4 Sumeragi And SW4-II Announced
Post by: bork on February 25, 2015, 10:47:03 AM
Understandable, but you'd think they'd release the PS3 version digitally over here.

My import copy is supposed to arrive tomorrow.  I bet the weather problems will delay that by a day or three.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Sengoku Basara 4 Sumeragi And SW4-II Announced
Post by: cool breeze on February 25, 2015, 01:21:24 PM
missed opportunity to release it as Dragon Warriors
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Sengoku Basara 4 Sumeragi And SW4-II Announced
Post by: kick51 on February 25, 2015, 01:36:52 PM
Why? This isnt coming out for a while yet.

from what I understand, these games have unlimited content but are kinda shallow, so I might get sick of the gameplay style with just one of them. 
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Sengoku Basara 4 Sumeragi And SW4-II Announced
Post by: bork on February 25, 2015, 01:56:30 PM
Why? This isnt coming out for a while yet.

from what I understand, these games have unlimited content but are kinda shallow, so I might get sick of the gameplay style with just one of them.

Do you get sick of other genres like that?  If not and you play Hyrule Warriors now, I doubt you're going to feel burnt out on musou when you try DQH months down the road.  There are also subtle differences in the way all these Omega Force/Koei developed games play from one another.  Hyrule Warriors has some familiar Zelda elements to it that none of these other games have.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Sengoku Basara 4 Sumeragi And SW4-II Announced
Post by: bork on February 25, 2015, 02:08:27 PM
Dragon Quest Heroes stream: http://www.twitch.tv/asami85
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Sengoku Basara 4 Sumeragi And SW4-II Announced
Post by: kick51 on February 25, 2015, 03:25:10 PM
I can get burnt out, but ill give hyrule warriors a try at so.e point.

And i remember asami85 from some fgc stream...finestko maybe?  The weeb to end all weebs :lol
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Sengoku Basara 4 Sumeragi And SW4-II Announced
Post by: bork on February 26, 2015, 11:36:34 PM
Played Dragon Quest Heroes for the first time tonight.  This has to be the slowest-paced musou game, in terms of getting all the various game play elements, that I've ever played.  It took a solid hour for all of the mechanics to be introduced and initially I was pretty bored with the game.  You start out killing a few enemy types with a very limited moveset and then mindlessly slash away at a dragon boss after a few levels.  But as various systems started getting introduced, things got a lot more fun. 

You start off by selecting either a male or female main character.  These appear to be essentially the same characters; the male character has flame-based attacks and the female has ice-based attacks, but the combos and spells appeared to be essentially the same. 

After things start opening up, the game plays like this:

-You have typical Koei musou game-style combos.

-You can dodge-roll with R2.  X is jump.  Some air combos are possible.

-R3 is a lock-on, but only for boss or general-type enemies.

-R1 brings up a spell list.  You can have up to four spells at a time.  Spells can be done off of combos.

-L1 is guard. however you cannot move and guard at the same time.

-The familiar musou gauge is available.  Right now It's just one bar that takes longer to fill up than other musou games.  I've only seen the main female's musou-- she powers up and her hair changes, Dragonball-style, and gets stronger attacks, then finishes it off with a super move.  It looks pretty cool!

-You can switch between your party members with L2.  It looks like it's possible to do multi-character combos, assuming the party members are close enough to the same enemy/enemies.

-When enemies are killed, monster coins will sometimes be dropped.  You can pick these up and then use them, just like using items in Samurai Warriors games, to summon these enemies back to fight on your side.  You can summon multiple monsters at the same time to assist you.  This is fucking awesome.

In between levels, you go back to a camp and can talk to NPCs, buy/sell items, upgrade your skills, and all that good stuff.  I'm not sure how much of this is like Dragon Quest but it was pretty easy for me to get a handle on everything as a seasoned musou game player.

Visually the game is impressive in that there can be a large amount of characters on screen with minimal frame rate drops and no enemy pop-in, but the environments I've played in have all been pretty small in scale so far.  One level was a giant open field with a large hill.  There's a lot of attention to detail, like cloth moving in the background and even enemies relaxing when they're out of range, but the game still reminds me a lot of an "uprezzed PS3 game." 

I'm liking this game right now, but I was definitely more impressed with Hyrule Warriors in comparison and so far Hyrule Warriors has this game beat in terms of boss battles.  I also miss being able to run or summon a horse.  The characters in DQH move just a bit too slow.  Maybe another mechanic will be introduced for this.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Sengoku Basara 4 Sumeragi And SW4-II Announced
Post by: kick51 on February 27, 2015, 02:37:39 PM
i decided to try out Hyrule Warriors last night and it seems pretty awesome, though hard mode seems really easy so far (I just beat the deku tree level)
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Sengoku Basara 4 Sumeragi And SW4-II Announced
Post by: Bebpo on February 27, 2015, 03:08:27 PM
I'll never be able to really get into Hyrule Warriors until there's a Wii U emulator that can runs this at 60fps.  All the other musou games & basara games run smooth lately so it's really difficulty playing a sub-30fps musou these days :(  It's not just visuals, it effects the combat when it's got that choppy feel.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Sengoku Basara 4 Sumeragi And SW4-II Announced
Post by: Bebpo on March 03, 2015, 03:18:23 AM
Well, after an hour with Dragon Quest Heroes I can safely say it's a wonderfully nostalgic window dressing for a musou and I have no doubt this will be my favorite musou game since Gundam Musou 3.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Sengoku Basara 4 Sumeragi And SW4-II Announced
Post by: bork on March 03, 2015, 09:15:32 AM
DQH has frame rate issues, too.  Obviously a higher frame rate than Hyrule Warriors, but I don't get that you can play DQH that but not stand Hyrule Warriors. 

I still have mixed thoughts on DQH.  I'm certain that if I were more into DQ I'd be foaming at the mouth all over it, but the game has been almost boring on some stages, like the non-story missions you can select.  It's not exactly barrels of fun to go back to the same repeated field map and kill endless slime hordes.

I even found one level that appeared to be a literal grind-fest.  You can just slash away at waves of the same enemies until you get tired of it and quit out the level.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Sengoku Basara 4 Sumeragi And SW4-II Announced
Post by: Bebpo on March 03, 2015, 01:41:16 PM
DQH has frame rate issues, too.  Obviously a higher frame rate than Hyrule Warriors, but I don't get that you can play DQH that but not stand Hyrule Warriors. 

I still have mixed thoughts on DQH.  I'm certain that if I were more into DQ I'd be foaming at the mouth all over it, but the game has been almost boring on some stages, like the non-story missions you can select.  It's not exactly barrels of fun to go back to the same repeated field map and kill endless slime hordes.

I even found one level that appeared to be a literal grind-fest.  You can just slash away at waves of the same enemies until you get tired of it and quit out the level.

Yeah, I'm not even a huge DQ fan (only played about half of them), but it's enough that it makes the experience awesome.  Everything from the fonts to the sound effects when you pick up herbs or a spell is cast make the game 1,000 time better.  And it's pretty lame it can't keep 60fps. 

A huge part of musou seems to be how much you care about the characters/setting.  I'm a lot more forgiving with the often sub-30fps in One Piece Musou because it's OP and OP is rad than the sub-30fps in Zelda because although I like a good Zelda game when I see one, I really don't give a shit about Zelda trappings (I like WW old man Ganandorf & WW boat king and WW link, that's about it for Zelda characters; Tingle is ok as a joke character) and I hate the Zelda fanbase because they're loud and annoying as fuck and prop up what are, most of the time, completely average games.  Hell, no matter how many times I try I can never get into mainline DW because RoTTK does nothing for me as well.  Whereas Samurai Warriors is at least about Japanese history and I major'd in that so I at least find that interesting and have familiarity with the cast.  Never got into FoTNS so that musou does nothing for me, but I love Gundam and the Gundam Musou games (1 & 3) are amazing.

So yeah, musou is musou.  Some have better gameplay than others, but whether you love a musou or get bored after an hour or two really comes down to if you're a fan of the characters/setting/trappings.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Sengoku Basara 4 Sumeragi And SW4-II Announced
Post by: bork on March 03, 2015, 01:42:55 PM
:obama

And yet as much as I agree with what you're saying, my problems with DQH come from game design.  It's just too simplistic, even for musou, and there is zero strategy from what I have played.  I hope this changes.  Maybe I just need to crank up the difficulty level some more.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Sengoku Basara 4 Sumeragi And SW4-II Announced
Post by: Mr. Gundam on March 03, 2015, 01:43:17 PM
DQH import prices dropped as soon as the localized version was announced.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Sengoku Basara 4 Sumeragi And SW4-II Announced
Post by: Bebpo on March 03, 2015, 01:53:05 PM
:obama

And yet as much as I agree with what you're saying, my problems with DQH come from game design.  It's just too simplistic, even more musou, and there is zero strategy from what I have played.  I hope this changes.

Really?  I mean the very first boss fight with the dragon in the first stage had more strategy than most musou I've played.  Its attacks did high damage, your character had almost no ranged moves so you actually had to block or roll dodge its fire breathing attack and block the claw swipes.  Felt closer to an action game boss than a musou boss and I thought that was quite cool.  Otherwise yeah, common enemies are brainless and it's more about stat grinding this time around because it's trying to be more rpg-ish.

Also the one thing I don't like about DQH is that you have to kill "every single enemy" to advance, whereas most musou games you can run towards the next objective and avoid enemies; which is how I like my musou because I like speedrunning the maps.

DQH import prices dropped as soon as the localized version was announced.

Second hand?  I mean the game just came out so new prices are just the price of the game with the current exchange rate +~$5 import markup.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Sengoku Basara 4 Sumeragi And SW4-II Announced
Post by: bork on March 03, 2015, 02:03:06 PM
:obama

And yet as much as I agree with what you're saying, my problems with DQH come from game design.  It's just too simplistic, even more musou, and there is zero strategy from what I have played.  I hope this changes.

Really?  I mean the very first boss fight with the dragon in the first stage had more strategy than most musou I've played.  Its attacks did high damage, your character had almost no ranged moves so you actually had to block or roll dodge its fire breathing attack and block the claw swipes.  Felt closer to an action game boss than a musou boss and I thought that was quite cool.  Otherwise yeah, common enemies are brainless and it's more about stat grinding this time around because it's trying to be more rpg-ish.

We must have played two different games.   :lol  That dragon fight was mindless button mashing.  It lumbers around very slowly and its attacks were very easy to see coming.  You don't even have to really dodge anything.  That boss is exactly what I was talking about earlier in the thread when I was saying it felt mindless for the first hour.  The next boss you fight really isn't much better-- the giant cyclops also just lumbers around and you avoid his footstomps, slash slash slash, use the canons when able, rinse, repeat.

Now compare this to Hyrule Warriors, where you also get to fight huge bosses, only they have actual attack patterns and strategy must be used to beat them-- mashing away will literally not work.

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Also the one thing I don't like about DQH is that you have to kill "every single enemy" to advance, whereas most musou games you can run towards the next objective and avoid enemies; which is how I like my musou because I like speedrunning the maps.

Wait until you get to some of the side missions and this is all you do, in a small (for musou) area over and over again for 20 minutes until the level is over.   :lol :-\

But I'm still not going to put this game on the chopping block because I've been having fun with it, too, and it's still opening up as I play it.  Also I really like the princess chick who fights bare-handed.  She reminds me a lot of a Hokuto No Ken character.   :)
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Post by: Bebpo on March 03, 2015, 02:10:39 PM
:obama

And yet as much as I agree with what you're saying, my problems with DQH come from game design.  It's just too simplistic, even more musou, and there is zero strategy from what I have played.  I hope this changes.

Really?  I mean the very first boss fight with the dragon in the first stage had more strategy than most musou I've played.  Its attacks did high damage, your character had almost no ranged moves so you actually had to block or roll dodge its fire breathing attack and block the claw swipes.  Felt closer to an action game boss than a musou boss and I thought that was quite cool.  Otherwise yeah, common enemies are brainless and it's more about stat grinding this time around because it's trying to be more rpg-ish.

We must have played two different games.   :lol  That dragon fight was mindless button mashing.  It lumbers around very slowly and its attacks were very easy to see coming.  You don't even have to really dodge anything.  That boss is exactly what I was talking about earlier in the thread when I was saying it felt mindless for the first hour.  The next boss you fight really isn't much better-- the giant cyclops also just lumbers around and you avoid his footstomps, slash slash slash, use the canons when able, rinse, repeat.

Weird.  One hit of its fire breath attack would get me down to flashing HP so the next hit would kill me.  I couldn't afford to just slash, slash, slash.  I had to block or dodge each incoming attack while doing mindless slashes between.
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Post by: bork on March 03, 2015, 02:23:24 PM
Why were you standing near its mouth?  That thing moves so slowly that I was able to just stay away from its head and mash those buttons.  Powered-up and musou'd it for the win.  Nothing but mashing.  That dragon fight is a part of what is essentially the game tutorial.  The first real boss is the cyclops.
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Post by: Bebpo on March 03, 2015, 02:39:15 PM
Because it said the head and tail were the weakpoints, so I was hitting the head.  I dunno, was more fun that way anyhow, blocking and dodging and slashing.
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Post by: Mr. Gundam on March 04, 2015, 12:35:19 PM
:obama

And yet as much as I agree with what you're saying, my problems with DQH come from game design.  It's just too simplistic, even more musou, and there is zero strategy from what I have played.  I hope this changes.

Really?  I mean the very first boss fight with the dragon in the first stage had more strategy than most musou I've played.  Its attacks did high damage, your character had almost no ranged moves so you actually had to block or roll dodge its fire breathing attack and block the claw swipes.  Felt closer to an action game boss than a musou boss and I thought that was quite cool.  Otherwise yeah, common enemies are brainless and it's more about stat grinding this time around because it's trying to be more rpg-ish.

Also the one thing I don't like about DQH is that you have to kill "every single enemy" to advance, whereas most musou games you can run towards the next objective and avoid enemies; which is how I like my musou because I like speedrunning the maps.

DQH import prices dropped as soon as the localized version was announced.

Second hand?  I mean the game just came out so new prices are just the price of the game with the current exchange rate +~$5 import markup.

Play Asia has the PS4 version in the clearance section right now.
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Post by: Bebpo on March 04, 2015, 01:09:09 PM
:obama

And yet as much as I agree with what you're saying, my problems with DQH come from game design.  It's just too simplistic, even more musou, and there is zero strategy from what I have played.  I hope this changes.

Really?  I mean the very first boss fight with the dragon in the first stage had more strategy than most musou I've played.  Its attacks did high damage, your character had almost no ranged moves so you actually had to block or roll dodge its fire breathing attack and block the claw swipes.  Felt closer to an action game boss than a musou boss and I thought that was quite cool.  Otherwise yeah, common enemies are brainless and it's more about stat grinding this time around because it's trying to be more rpg-ish.

Also the one thing I don't like about DQH is that you have to kill "every single enemy" to advance, whereas most musou games you can run towards the next objective and avoid enemies; which is how I like my musou because I like speedrunning the maps.

DQH import prices dropped as soon as the localized version was announced.

Second hand?  I mean the game just came out so new prices are just the price of the game with the current exchange rate +~$5 import markup.

Play Asia has the PS4 version in the clearance section right now.

It's $66 right now for a new copy of the JPN version at PA.  I just checked my invoice and it was $65 when they shipped it on release date :P
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Post by: bork on March 04, 2015, 02:46:38 PM
I checked my receipt, too- I paid $65.99.  The game is listed for $66.99 right now.
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Post by: Mr. Gundam on March 04, 2015, 02:57:34 PM
Weird, I was doing some bargain bin shopping over the weekend and saw it in there for $55. Must have been a short sale or something.
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Post by: Bebpo on March 05, 2015, 11:54:52 PM
Don't know if I'll get around to playing DQ Heroes more than 2-3 hours (aka my limit for musou outside Gundam & One Piece).  I'm really not down with the idea of musou stages where you have to kill every enemy and the framerate is extremely inconsistent which sucks which makes me really sad (guess I'm getting OPM3 on PC since they still have problems with anywhere near locked 60fps on PS4 hardware).  I'm still playing some rpgs and stuff and SRW Z3-2 is out in less than a month so it looks like it'll get lost in the backlog.
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Post by: bork on March 06, 2015, 07:41:43 AM
Don't know if I'll get around to playing DQ Heroes more than 2-3 hours (aka my limit for musou outside Gundam & One Piece).

:what

Bebpo™
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Post by: archie4208 on March 06, 2015, 08:01:14 AM
DW8XL sold about 131k on Steam (http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2015/03/steam-gauge-measuring-the-most-popular-steam-games-of-2014/3/)

That probably explains why DW8E is on Steam and why One Piece Warriors 3 is coming.
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Post by: Trent Dole on March 06, 2015, 09:40:31 AM
I'm one of those sales. :rock Already had the base game on 360 but we didn't get XL on that platform so 16 or whatever it was for the XL stuffs alongside what I've already had at was a no brainer. SW4 II has apparently shown up in someDBs for steam so hopefully we get a complete set of that and SW4, uh, I in the near future as well.
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Post by: bork on March 06, 2015, 10:08:29 AM
You don't really need the original SW4.  SW4-II pretty much replaces it.
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Post by: Trent Dole on March 06, 2015, 10:10:14 AM
Well in that case it's a sale either way. :hyper
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Post by: kick51 on March 06, 2015, 11:34:51 AM
what's the best musuo on PS4 currently?   Warriors Orochi 3?
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Post by: Rise on March 06, 2015, 01:57:01 PM
what's the best musuo on PS4 currently?   Warriors Orochi 3?
wo3u or dw8xlce. it's hard to decide between the two. wo3u definitely has better stage design but dw8xl has slightly superior combat mechanics, since WO3U is based on the DW7 engine. depends on what you value more, i think stage design is more important in musou though. also wo3u runs better on ps4
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Post by: bork on March 06, 2015, 02:05:06 PM
what's the best musuo on PS4 currently?   Warriors Orochi 3?

In terms of graphics and performance, Samurai Warriors 4.  Warriors Orochi 3 Ultimate runs pretty well, but didn't get that much of a visual upgrade from PS3.  Dynasty Warriors 8XL got a nice visual boost, but the framerate is all over the place.  Would get it on PC if you have a capable machine.

In terms of content, you have to decide for yourself.  I'd probably still go with Warriors Orochi 3 Ultimate, because WO is a great introduction to musou games and has a huge cast, with tons of levels, even though I enjoyed Samurai Warriors 4 more.  Himu and Prole did not, mainly because SW4 is more action-oriented.  I like this focus and much faster pace. 

If you're interested in Dynasty Warriors 8 Empires (which reportedly has the same framerate problems as XL), wait on it since a free-to-play version is coming soon.

Finally, if you're fine with the import route, Sengoku Musou 4-II and Dragon Quest Heroes are out, and One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3 and the GOAT Senran Kagura Estival Versus is coming out on 3/26.
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Post by: kick51 on March 06, 2015, 03:34:59 PM
I didn't know Senran Kagura was a musuo game heh

i might just stick with hyrule warriors for now.  just hate booting up the wii u sometimes!
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Post by: bork on March 06, 2015, 03:46:30 PM
I didn't know Senran Kagura was a musuo game heh

i might just stick with hyrule warriors for now.  just hate booting up the wii u sometimes!

It's a really perverted beat-em-up with musou-style game play.  The last game, SK2 on 3DS, was legit (as in improved game play and a good challenge level), so I'm pretty hopeful on this new game.
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Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on March 06, 2015, 06:47:41 PM
I'm hyped to play the Bladestorm remake.  I skipped the original.  Any impressions on the PS4 remake yet?  I see it came out a month ago in Japan.
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Post by: Rise on March 06, 2015, 06:51:54 PM
I'm hyped to play the Bladestorm remake.  I skipped the original.  Any impressions on the PS4 remake yet?  I see it came out a month ago in Japan.
there's a US demo up. last i checked people couldn't access it from the ps4 store, only the webstore.

link: https://store.sonyentertainmentnetwork.com/#!/en-us/games/bladestorm-nightmare-demo/cid=UP4108-CUSA02086_00-BLADE0NIGHTDEMO0

i'm a big musou fan, but i never played this before, so when i first played the demo i thought it was confusing and weird as fuck. but then i watched somebody i know who was good at it play it and tried it again and learned how to play it. it's really fun once it clicks.

framerate isn't great, but it's not as bad as people said it was. i think the bad framerate impressions came from people playing the ps3 demo or something.
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Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on March 08, 2015, 12:56:28 AM
I forgot how addicting the Empires games are.  "Just one more raid/invasion..."  If it wasn't for the DS4's short battery life, I'd probably still be playing.
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Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on March 14, 2015, 03:01:18 PM
I finished all of the empire scenarios in Dynasty Warriors 8 Empires.  I'm considering this game beat.

I had a lot of fun with this game but there were some weird glitches in some places.  In some battles, the officers were named a bunch of numbers instead of their actual names, which I thought was funny.  Also they had FF7 and FF8 characters.  Not officially I presume but they had the names and looked close to the character designs.

I see there is DLC for additional scenarios but nothing has been uploaded yet.  I'd be interested to see what they upload.  That reminds me that I probably should go back to Hyrule Warriors and download the Majora's Mask DLC that I already paid for.

This game is a good 8 out of 10.  I'm going to play other games and then I'm going to get Bladestorm, return back to Hyrule Warriors, and then crack open Samurai Warriors 4.
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Post by: bork on March 14, 2015, 03:57:59 PM
Which platform did you play it on?  PS4?
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Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on March 14, 2015, 04:09:03 PM
Yes
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Post by: Trent Dole on March 15, 2015, 02:20:19 AM
DW8E has had a few patches because of various issues, and the version released internationally is NOT caught up with all the patches in the JP version inexplicably, so that'd be why you ran into various random weird shit.
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Post by: MrAngryFace on March 16, 2015, 05:19:38 PM
SW4 on PS4 is so good arhghghgghg - is there anothing Gundam coming? I guess I could pretend the SW cast is a bunch of gundams
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Post by: Mr. Gundam on March 17, 2015, 01:37:41 PM
SW4 on PS4 is so good arhghghgghg - is there anothing Gundam coming? I guess I could pretend the SW cast is a bunch of gundams

Nothing announced. They're normally unveiled at TGS and then come out in December of that year.
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Post by: archie4208 on March 18, 2015, 10:58:42 AM
Anyone importing One Piece Pirate Warriors 3?  It isn't coming to the west until summer.  :fbm
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Post by: bork on March 18, 2015, 11:47:54 AM
Anyone importing One Piece Pirate Warriors 3?  It isn't coming to the west until summer.  :fbm

I am.  If I was smart, I'd wait.  But I'm a sucker!  Getting it on PS4.  If I really like I'm gonna double-dip and get it on Vita too, but it comes out next week with Senran Kagura Estival Versus, and I know I'm going to be playing that a lot more.
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Post by: Bebpo on March 18, 2015, 12:34:33 PM
Would have, but with Steam version this time, much rather wait for that.  Locked 60fps in musou is nice and who knows if they'll be able to hit that in the PS4 version.  The PS3 OPM games run pretty bad.
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Post by: bork on March 18, 2015, 03:36:04 PM
Would have, but with Steam version this time, much rather wait for that.  Locked 60fps in musou is nice and who knows if they'll be able to hit that in the PS4 version.  The PS3 OPM games run pretty bad.

60 FPS is nice, but the trade-off -going by DW8XL and now DOA5LR- is that you get PS3-level graphics/missing effects and enemy pop-in all over the place.  There is no perfect version.

The One Piece Kaizoku Musou games run fine on PS3 (and Vita) anyway.  The only musou I've played where I really felt like the framerate dips actually affected the game play was DW8XL on PS4 and Vita. 
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Post by: MrAngryFace on March 18, 2015, 04:00:55 PM
I just pretend that framerate drops are when my character is getting awesome and the armies just cant handle it.
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Post by: bork on March 18, 2015, 04:12:24 PM
 :aweshum
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Post by: Bebpo on March 18, 2015, 04:43:52 PM
Damn, had no idea DW8XL on PC had problems.  Thought it looked good and played smooth.
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Post by: kick51 on March 18, 2015, 05:13:24 PM
I just pretend that framerate drops are when my character is getting awesome and the armies just cant handle it.

it's where the slow mo kicks in on purpose to show off the beautiful animation

if it's a game I don't like, it's lazy devs
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Post by: Rufus on March 18, 2015, 05:25:35 PM
I just pretend that framerate drops are when my character is getting awesome and the armies just cant handle it.

it's where the slow mo kicks in on purpose to show off the beautiful animation

if it's a game I don't like, it's lazy devs
That's how I rationalized SotC' framerate issues. Giants are trying to smash me, the ground is shaking and everything slows down? Checks out.
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Post by: Rise on March 18, 2015, 07:34:17 PM
Damn, had no idea DW8XL on PC had problems.  Thought it looked good and played smooth.
koei pc ports have been pretty bad. dw8e was the same as dw8xl too — don't see it changing. sticking to ps4 seems like the safer option.
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Post by: bork on March 18, 2015, 07:40:45 PM
Damn, had no idea DW8XL on PC had problems.  Thought it looked good and played smooth.

I wouldn't call what I'm saying problems, it's just that they pretty much ported the PS3 version over instead of the PS4 version, so all the enhancements are lost.  There's also no online multiplayer.

I was thinking about getting Empires but saw too many people saying it was broken and not running correctly on PC.
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Post by: Rise on March 18, 2015, 07:47:56 PM
Damn, had no idea DW8XL on PC had problems.  Thought it looked good and played smooth.

I wouldn't call what I'm saying problems, it's just that they pretty much ported the PS3 version over instead of the PS4 version, so all the enhancements are lost.  There's also no online multiplayer.

I was thinking about getting Empires but saw too many people saying it was broken and not running correctly on PC.
they also lack basic modern pc port features like automatic controller support. having to manually map controls in 2015  :-\
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Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on March 18, 2015, 10:16:09 PM
I lied, I'm playing Samurai Warriors 4.

On one hand, this game is ridiculously well designed.  The levels are very well crafted, the game runs smoothly, and some of the graphical effects are amazing, even though they are long overdue in Musou games.  On the other hand, Samurai Warriors 2 I think is still the better game.  I liked the impact of missing out on missions and how you need to take missions very seriously in SW2.  SW4 is like the others: you can miss missions and aside from a couple of obvious ones (like don't let your commander die), who gives a fuck if you fail them or not.  In SW2, this wasn't the case and I really liked it as it gave the game an edge.  It's lacking here.  Also the way the story mode is structured is kind of annoying.  I want to build up an insanely powerful general but being limited to just a small handful of levels won't let me do that (unless I do multiplayer I suppose but fuck that).

Still a 8.5/10 game so far.
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Post by: Bebpo on March 18, 2015, 10:16:13 PM
Ok, guess I'm getting OPM3 next week on PS4 then.  The PC versions being based on the PS3 version when it comes to enemy count and effects is lame.
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Post by: Trent Dole on March 18, 2015, 10:56:53 PM
Hey for those of us who are inexplicably without a PS3 or 4 these PC dumps are appreciated. :-[
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Post by: Bebpo on March 19, 2015, 12:08:09 AM
Played some more Hyrule Warriors.  Don't like how much HP the bosses have.  Feels like a boring grind to get them dead as opposed to normal musou bosses.  Also don't like that there's no real combo chain and it's just like "you can use roll to interrupt any combo and start a new one fresh so sort of infinite combo but no real chain"; I like the spells and the characters chaining is nice and helps the grind since you can use all your MP/tension switch to the next character and repeat and switch and repeat to take them down faster.

It's not bad, not great so far.  Decent musou with some good ideas kind of like OPM1.
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Post by: bork on March 19, 2015, 09:02:48 AM
Played some more Hyrule Warriors.  Don't like how much HP the bosses have.  Feels like a boring grind to get them dead as opposed to normal musou bosses.

Huh?  You fight them Zelda-style- hit the weak point, wail away, rinse, repeat.  Usually takes three times to down them just like Zelda.

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Post by: Bebpo on March 19, 2015, 01:49:47 PM
Typo, meant DQH as you can tell from the other stuff I was describing. 
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Post by: bork on March 19, 2015, 02:19:37 PM
No, not really.   :lol

But yeah, I agree.  I'm really not very taken with Dragon Quest Heroes.  Will probably sell it off when I go to Japan in a few months.
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Post by: Bebpo on March 19, 2015, 11:30:08 PM
I dunno, I mean most musou games aren't that great.  They're fun enough, but it's only the occasional one that's really great stuff.


At first DQH seemed kind of fluffy, and lacked that intense strategic depth that the good musou ones have.  But then you realize the game is mostly a tower defense game where you get monster coins and set up monsters to block enemy groups while efficiently taking out the magic circles and mini-bosses all while changing characters constantly because there's not much MP on any individual and MP attacks are your BnB.  I like that tension takes forever to build up so you're not constantly going musou and only towards the end of longer maps; makes it more satisfying when you use it at just the right time to make the most of infinite MP to blast those attacks and then finish with a musou attack.

Basically once I got far enough in to find that, yes, the game does feature the same birds-eye view strategy rushing from one place to another that good musou games have, and does have enough flavor to keep it original (also you die really fucking fast which is kind of different) + quests + alchemy + etc...; it's a legit musou game for sure.  But I'm sure DQH2 with improvements and more characters will be where it really great top-tier musou if it's going to get there.
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Post by: Bebpo on March 24, 2015, 11:00:34 PM
DW8 XL on PS4 is free now on JPN PS+; already have it on PC, but downloading it to compare since I know now the PC version is based on the PS3 version.  Haven't really put much time into the PC version so if I play it maybe I'll play it on PS4 now.

Japan PS+ is pretty cool if you don't import much these days.  Only started using it since January, but already got EX Troopers, Clannad, Blazblue Chronophantam, Tales of Symphonia on PS3, Shinobi Versus, Tokiden on Vita, and Akiba Strip 2 and DW8XL.  For $50 USD, that's a lot of import goodness to mess around with.

And unlike US PS+ which gives free games all at once, once a month, JPN PS+ seems to give new free games every week or two.
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Post by: bork on March 25, 2015, 10:35:58 AM
If you think the framerates in other musous are bad, wait until you see how DW8XL runs on PS4.   :lol
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Post by: bork on March 25, 2015, 10:52:55 AM
Here's One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3 on Vita.  Looks pretty smooth.  I was going to switch my PS4 order to Vita but that would have likely delayed the package, so I'm sticking with PS4 for now.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zOPSFUgYwCo
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Post by: Bebpo on March 25, 2015, 12:32:04 PM
You can still play on Vita with remote play!  Best of both worlds.
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Post by: bork on March 25, 2015, 04:05:07 PM
You can still play on Vita with remote play!  Best of both worlds.

Remote play is ass for me, even at my new place.  Not that I'm surprised since I'm forced to use wireless.  But the good news is that I asked AT&T to check my line and they found problems, so I have a glimmer of hope that my speeds will be improved.  Am currently paying for 45 Mbps down and am getting half that.   :'(

At my previous place, even with everything wired, it was still ass.  In the same room.  :lol
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Post by: bork on March 25, 2015, 07:49:25 PM
Man.  Tried testing a laptop wired connection...got 50 Mpbs.  Wirelessly...about 30 Mpbs in the living room.  In my game/nerdo room...17 Mpbs.   :'(  I need a way to get a wired connection in here.
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Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on March 25, 2015, 11:13:44 PM
Is it confirmed that Samurai Warriors 4-II is coming to the US?
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Post by: bork on March 26, 2015, 09:01:20 AM
I'm an impatient idiot and bought Senran Kagura Estival Versus digitally, because it appeared that the physical versions were going to be delayed until next week.  But then I got a shipping notice this morning LOLOL.   :dizzy

Anyway, I went for the Vita version.  Will be getting the physical PS4 version from Play-Asia possibly tomorrow but I still think it will be next week.  I got a chance to try it very briefly before work and it's pretty impressive.  Runs at native res and 30 FPS.  Has more detail and enemies on-screen than before.  Is way more  :nsfw than before.   :lol  The PS4 version runs at 1080P/60 FPS.  Pretty impressive technically.  I watched a stream last night and didn't see any slowdown.  Come on, Koei, get your shit together...these guys can make musou run at a much more constant framerate on both platforms...why can't you?

Is it confirmed that Samurai Warriors 4-II is coming to the US?

Officially, no, but if it's being listed for Steam, then you know it's getting localized!
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Sengoku Basara 4 Sumeragi And SW4-II Announced
Post by: bork on March 26, 2015, 09:30:46 AM
Shanks!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APj9KmlBV64
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Sengoku Basara 4 Sumeragi And SW4-II Announced
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on March 29, 2015, 08:15:21 AM
I finished the Story Mode and am about halfway through the Chronicle Mode in Samurai Warriors 4 (PS4).  I will keep going through Chronicle Mode (should be done with it this week) but these are my overall final impressions:

+ By far the best looking Musou game yet.  There is some slowdown but it's rare.
+ Some good level variety.  I never really felt that the stage variety was all that repetitive.
+ Good stage design.  There aren't too many open fields of nothing going on.
+ Does a good job in keeping a "manic" feel to the game.  In the other Musou games, I generally like to wipe out the entire battlefield but this game was too fast acting for me to do this.  It kept me busy without wanting to kill off all of the Barracks Captains.
+ This was a minus to me at first but is a plus.  I did end up liking the multiple story lines.  I didn't like it at first because I generally want to keep 2-3 fighters and use them during the whole game but I wound up enjoying a lot of the characters that I was forced to play, like Koshōshō

- Unskippable cutscenes.  Inexcusable in the year of our lord 2015.
- None of the tense feelings that came with fucking up a mission like in Samurai Warriors 2.
- Dumb AI.  I would assign my secondary to go to an officer and more than a few times the character didn't move.  Or halfway through, it would stop.  I'd switch over to the character and it was just standing in an open field with nothing around them.  Most of the time it worked exactly as planned but it should work all the time, especially if there aren't any obstacles in the way like a closed gate.
- Sluggish mission progression.  I'd kill off an enemy officer and 2-3 minutes later, it tells me that I'm supposed to lure them into an area so of course I'd fail that mission right away.  The mission objectives need to be a lot tighter.  If there is a mission objective with an officer, it needs to tell me right away, not minutes after I killed them off.

I've warmed up to this game over time.  I think I gave it a 8.5 before but now it'd be around a 9.  I still Samurai Warriors 2 better but SW4 is a very good game.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Sengoku Basara 4 Sumeragi And SW4-II Announced
Post by: MoxManiac on March 29, 2015, 01:22:35 PM
Hey Lyte, does OPM3 still play like a traditional musou game? I know OPM did things a little differently (platforming etc) and then OPM2 basically went full musou style. Is 3 more like 2 or 1?
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Sengoku Basara 4 Sumeragi And SW4-II Announced
Post by: Bebpo on March 29, 2015, 01:56:35 PM
3 is "GOTY Edition" of 2 from everything I'm reading (my copy's still in the mail).  Same exact game as 2 but about 8 more playable characters, better stages, tweaks to some existing characters, new story mode, 60fps on PS4.  Most people are liking it but are pissed at lack of "sequel" content.  It really should've been an XL expansion, but I guess they justified it as a numbered sequel because of the PS4 1080p/60fps improvement.  But yeah, same game 8 new characters, the end.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Sengoku Basara 4 Sumeragi And SW4-II Announced
Post by: bork on March 29, 2015, 02:11:01 PM
Hey Lyte, does OPM3 still play like a traditional musou game? I know OPM did things a little differently (platforming etc) and then OPM2 basically went full musou style. Is 3 more like 2 or 1?

It's full-on musou, like 2.

3 is "GOTY Edition" of 2 from everything I'm reading (my copy's still in the mail).  Same exact game as 2 but about 8 more playable characters, better stages, tweaks to some existing characters, new story mode, 60fps on PS4.  Most people are liking it but are pissed at lack of "sequel" content.  It really should've been an XL expansion, but I guess they justified it as a numbered sequel because of the PS4 1080p/60fps improvement.  But yeah, same game 8 new characters, the end.

Who is saying that?  I just started playing it and level-wise, it's a new game.  The original game followed the One Piece story up to a point.  The sequel had an original game.  The new game goes back to following the manga story and starts from the beginning-- the first level has you playing as Luffy and saving Zorro, with a "cameo" from Nami.  The story mode IS the main game here.  It's not something that was shoehorned in.  You also get a new original mode where you can choose any character and conquer territory.  Game play wise, it's similar to 2, but welcome to musou.    The biggest difference I've noticed is that you now can have more than one partner to do assist attacks/assist supers with. 

From what I have played, this is absolutely not "One Piece Kaizoku Musou 2 XL."  It's definitely a brand new entry and I have no idea why anyone would be calling it otherwise.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Sengoku Basara 4 Sumeragi And SW4-II Announced
Post by: Bebpo on March 29, 2015, 02:13:15 PM
Oh yeah, it has a full new story mode, sure.  But I just mean in terms of gameplay additions.  Most people wanted more characters (I mean the show has like 300+ to pick from, so 8 or so is not a lot).
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Sengoku Basara 4 Sumeragi And SW4-II Announced
Post by: bork on March 29, 2015, 02:16:04 PM
Oh yeah, it has a full new story mode, sure.  But I just mean in terms of gameplay additions.  Most people wanted more characters (I mean the show has like 300+ to pick from, so 8 or so is not a lot).

Complaints on characters, sure.  The roster is already pretty huge though.  But calling it the "GOTY" version 2 is absolutely wrong.

Anyway, remote play is now working pretty decently for me, but I still went ahead and ordered the Vita version too.   :-[
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Sengoku Basara 4 Sumeragi And SW4-II Announced
Post by: Bebpo on March 30, 2015, 12:36:39 AM
I tried DW8 PS4 and holy cowwww at that RE_ENACT PLAYING WHILE BLIND depth of field filter wow.  Game is totally fucking unplayable.  Glad the PC version I bought is based on the PS3 version and doesn't have that!


How did they ever think that was a good idea?  Are they all blind?
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Sengoku Basara 4 Sumeragi And SW4-II Announced
Post by: MoxManiac on March 30, 2015, 07:19:33 AM
I tried DW8 PS4 and holy cowwww at that RE_ENACT PLAYING WHILE BLIND depth of field filter wow.  Game is totally fucking unplayable.  Glad the PC version I bought is based on the PS3 version and doesn't have that!


How did they ever think that was a good idea?  Are they all blind?

It can be turned off.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Sengoku Basara 4 Sumeragi And SW4-II Announced
Post by: bork on March 30, 2015, 07:49:35 AM
Or turned down.  You're way too quick to judge stuff, Beps.  Check the options!   :)
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Sengoku Basara 4 Sumeragi And SW4-II Announced
Post by: Bebpo on March 31, 2015, 12:17:02 AM
Damn, One Piece Musou 3 is legit awesome.  Really refined gameplay systems traditional big battle musou and 60fps feels and looks so nice compared to the previous games.  And yeah it's cool having a good production-value story mode that tells the whole story of One Piece so far.  Game is basically what OPM1 should have been, but it took 3 games.  Gundam Musou also took 3 games to get really awesome.  Maybe DQ Heroes 3 and Hyrule Warriors 3 will be amazing.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Sengoku Basara 4 Sumeragi And SW4-II Announced
Post by: bork on March 31, 2015, 09:54:15 AM
I'm not really sure what's so refined about it when it plays very much like Kaizoku Musou 2.  It just runs better in general and has the kind of story mode that the original should have had.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Sengoku Basara 4 Sumeragi And SW4-II Announced
Post by: Bebpo on March 31, 2015, 01:30:15 PM
The partner system, in particular, is still the same concept as the previous games, but the way they executed it where you can add them at the end of combos and switch between them mid-battle is a really fun improvement.  The stages are much better and the treasure hunt hidden secrets/hidden story scenes is cool and adds a little more to do. 

The systems I'm not sure about are the kizuna rush where you get temporary access to higher level moves you haven't unlocked yet.  It's fine, but I feel like by using the moves you're about to get in the next 5-15 levels it kind of takes away from the fun of actually getting the moves since you've used them a bunch already.  Also not really big on the comic panel team supers during partner rush, would rather just have multiple regular supers per character.

And not sure if the coin system is an improvement in this one.  But otherwise the rest seems improved.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Sengoku Basara 4 Sumeragi And SW4-II Announced
Post by: bork on March 31, 2015, 10:36:27 PM
The Vita port is fantastic; runs incredibly smooth like Shin Gundam Musou does.  I wonder if the same team ported both?

Sure there's the obvious enemy pop-in, but it doesn't affect anything.  I would have been happy with just the portable version TBH.

Footage:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zOPSFUgYwCo
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Sengoku Basara 4 Sumeragi And SW4-II Announced
Post by: bork on April 01, 2015, 03:41:12 PM
Well, that was quick.   :lol

(http://i.imgur.com/KLUTNdd.jpg)
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Sengoku Basara 4 Sumeragi And SW4-II Announced
Post by: bork on April 01, 2015, 06:28:18 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hHCgRR6dJ0A

Maria's moves are  :lol :lol :lol

EDIT: Derp, this is old.  Anyway, the game comes out in July and will have 40 playable characters.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Sengoku Basara 4 Sumeragi And SW4-II Announced
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on April 04, 2015, 07:26:25 AM
I'm done with Samurai Warriors 4.  I'm about 70% done with Chronicle Mode.  I don't really feel like grinding through a few dozen more battles to get to 100%.  The battle maps are starting to get repetitive to me since it seems like there are about a half dozen generic battle maps that I keep going through.  Still a great game, I recommend it and hope that Samurai Warriors 4-II eventually comes to the US.  I'm sure it will so I'm not too worried about that.

Edit - If I were to rank the games, it'd be like this:

SW2 > SW4 = SW3Z > SW Chronicles Games > SW1
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Sengoku Basara 4 Sumeragi And SW4-II Announced
Post by: MoxManiac on April 06, 2015, 05:15:57 PM
Yeah, Chronicle mode is kind of a drag.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Sengoku Basara 4 Sumeragi And SW4-II Announced
Post by: Rise on April 06, 2015, 06:41:21 PM
i ordered estival versus  :goty2
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Sengoku Basara 4 Sumeragi And SW4-II Announced
Post by: bork on April 07, 2015, 09:12:31 AM
i ordered estival versus  :goty2

 :rejoice
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Sengoku Basara 4 Sumeragi And SW4-II Announced
Post by: bork on May 07, 2015, 05:17:35 PM
The Heroic Legend Of Arslan is getting a musou game.  Looks to have designs based on the recent manga series by the Full Metal Alchemist guy.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Sengoku Basara 4 Sumeragi And Arslan Musou Annonced
Post by: Bebpo on May 07, 2015, 06:57:58 PM
I think I'm over these games tbh, there's just too many of them now.  Gonna try to get through OPM3, Hyrule Warriors and DQH and then I'm probably not touching any more musou games for a few years until they do a new and exciting franchise (like when they did Fist of the North Star) or do some major combat changes.  I like the games, but there's how many musou a year coming out lately?  It's freaking nuts.

I remember reading some Arslan back in the day, but don't remember anything about it so don't care about this one.  Also kind of surprised they're doing a series that is extremely Japan-centric and will have zero sales chance in the USA.  At least Fist of the North Star, One Piece, Gundam are somewhat popular anime in the world outside of Japan.


Also I'm kind of butthurt because I've been saying for YEARS that the perfect musou fit is Berserk since there's a ton of cool characters and tons of faceless grunts and tons of story and it's decently popular worldwide (I mean it just got 3 movies).  It'd be nice because manga fans would finally get to see some of the story scenes post-PS2 game animated with voices and motion, and it'd be great as a musou because there's just so much to work with.  But it's medieval fantasy musou and now I feel like Arslan is going to be too similar so it's gonna knock Berserk's chances out :\
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Sengoku Basara 4 Sumeragi And Arslan Musou Annonced
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on May 07, 2015, 10:09:48 PM
Your loss.  Koei has been on fire the past 3 years with their Musou games, with the exception of maybe Ken's Rage 2.  If it was between 2006-2011, I would have agreed with you.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Sengoku Basara 4 Sumeragi And Arslan Musou Annonced
Post by: Trent Dole on May 08, 2015, 12:52:30 AM
Well if you're playing literally ALL of them then yeah, you're going to get burnt out. There's like one every month now practically.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Sengoku Basara 4 Sumeragi And Arslan Musou Annonced
Post by: bork on May 08, 2015, 09:06:27 AM
I think I'm over these games tbh, there's just too many of them now.  Gonna try to get through OPM3, Hyrule Warriors and DQH.

"I think I'm over these games but I'm going to play through three of them."

:dead

Also confusing after you said:
Damn, One Piece Musou 3 is legit awesome.  Really refined gameplay systems traditional big battle musou and 60fps feels and looks so nice compared to the previous games.  And yeah it's cool having a good production-value story mode that tells the whole story of One Piece so far.

:bolo

Your loss.  Koei has been on fire the past 3 years with their Musou games, with the exception of maybe Ken's Rage 2.  If it was between 2006-2011, I would have agreed with you.

Yup.  I used to not care about these games anywhere near as much as I have over the last few years.

The two bad titles they've released in the past four or so years are One Piece Pirate Warriors 1 and Ken's Rage 2.  Both were not made by Omega Force, IIRC.  I'm also kind of mixed on Dragon Quest Heroes.  I played it for a bit and really wasn't feeling it.  It's been shelved since February but I need to go back and try it out some more to see if it gets better.  If I still can't get into it it's getting sold off when I go to Japan this summer.

I don't know anything about Arslan so I'll wait to see what the game looks like after more characters are revealed.  I don't know much about Gundam but that didn't stop me from enjoying some of those games.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Sengoku Basara 4 Sumeragi And Arslan Musou Announced
Post by: bork on May 19, 2015, 08:33:31 AM
Sengoku Basara 4: Sumeragi (PS3/PS4) is getting bonus Resident Evil costumes.   :lol

(http://i.imgur.com/D5icjzx.jpg)
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Sengoku Basara 4 Sumeragi And Arslan Musou Announced
Post by: bork on May 20, 2015, 11:35:18 AM
Koei announced localized versions of Samurai Warriors Chronicles 3 for 3DS and Vita (June 30) and Samurai Warriors 4-II (September 29).  Kinda late on this.  Will pick up Chronicles 3 since I skipped the Japanese release.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Samurai Warriors 4 Empires Announced
Post by: bork on June 02, 2015, 08:29:24 AM
Sengoku Musou 4 Empires just got announced.  PS3/PS4/Vita.  The Koei train doesn't stop.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Samurai Warriors 4 Empires Announced
Post by: The Legend of Sunblade on June 02, 2015, 08:48:45 AM
I'm often in awe at how absolutely solid Koei's niche for both main Warriors series is that they can go constantly go "Main game > Expansion > Empires" for almost every entry without missing a beat.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Samurai Warriors 4 Empires Announced
Post by: Himu on June 02, 2015, 01:32:10 PM
Sengoku Musou 4 Empires just got announced.  PS3/PS4/Vita.  The Koei train doesn't stop.

Any reports on features? sengoku musou 4 sucked donkey balls but there is hope for Empires
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Samurai Warriors 4 Empires Announced
Post by: bork on June 02, 2015, 02:19:45 PM
I'm often in awe at how absolutely solid Koei's niche for both main Warriors series is that they can go constantly go "Main game > Expansion > Empires" for almost every entry without missing a beat.

This one is like main game > spin-off #1 (Chronicles) > remake of main game > spin-off  #2 (Empires)  :lol

Sengoku Musou 4 Empires just got announced.  PS3/PS4/Vita.  The Koei train doesn't stop.

Any reports on features? sengoku musou 4 sucked donkey balls but there is hope for Empires

1. YOU CRAZY

2. I think most of your complaints were addressed in 4-2 anyway.  I dunno if they've said anything about game features.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Samurai Warriors 4 Empires Announced
Post by: Himu on June 02, 2015, 02:39:40 PM
Naw it was trash

What did 4-II add?
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Samurai Warriors 4 Empires Announced
Post by: bork on June 02, 2015, 02:44:13 PM
Naw it was trash

:punch :punch :punch

What did 4-II add?

Quote
Hyper attacks will be more effective when ally morale is high. Certain areas on the battlefield are fortified to inhibit these attacks.
    Enemy AI has been further reworked to match the player character's movements. Maps appear to have friendlier camera work for horse riding than before.
    Stats and personal skills can be learned for each character by using experience points on a grid in a manner resembling Conquest Mode.
    Character attributes receive a special boost if equipped armaments share the same attributes. It is possible to surpass maximum capacity for weapons and so forth in this title.
    War scrolls can be used to instantly implement weapon skills onto a weapon. The pace for adding skills have been altered. New skills are included in the game.
    Mounts can be strengthened to have additional attributes.
    Edit characters from the vanilla title can be transferred into this game through save data. They can be used in Free Mode and Infinite Castle Mode.
    Offline and online co-op is available for all modes.
    Event scenes have rotatable 3D backdrops and revised special effects.
    Downloadable content so far includes costumes.

Disregarding the edit characters, players cannot directly transfer their Samurai Warriors 4 save data into this game; having it at the start of their game rewards 10,000 gold and all twenty war scrolls.

Playable character debuting in this entry:

    Naomasa Ii

Stages

New stages include:

    Kuzegawa
    Honzugawa Gate
    Kizugawa
    Kai Province
    Koshu

Story Mode reverts to a style reminiscent to previous titles with thirteen character centric stories. Each chapter has a distinguished protagonist with partner interactions different from the vanilla title. Players are still free to choose whoever they desire for the five stages seen in each narrative.

Infinite Castle Mode

Fusion of previous games' Survival and Challenge Modes. It is split into two sub-headings: Main and Annex. Both regulate players to one character.

Main is a survival based experience. Complete various objectives on each floor to proceed up the castle. Enemies become stronger on higher levels yet they drop better rewards if defeated. Players can quit the castle climb by choosing the escape option available every ten levels.

Annex is the challenge section with four selections available.

    Warrior Room - Defeat as many enemies as possible within the time limit.
    Gold Room - Hit enemies to collect a mountain of gold before time runs out.
    Tempest Room - Race for record time whilst avoiding or stopping any obstacles in the way.
    Deathmatch Room - High difficulty room where enemies can instantly kill players in a single hit. Complete the other three rooms with a certain score to unlock.

Players can post their rankings online and compete for high scores. War scrolls can be easily purchased in this mode's shop.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Samurai Warriors 4 Empires Announced
Post by: Himu on June 02, 2015, 03:28:47 PM
"Hyper attacks will be more effective when ally morale is high. Certain areas on the battlefield are fortified to inhibit these attacks."

But it's almost impossible to make your morale low.


The only real improvement I'm seeing in that list is infinite castle. :yeshrug maybe longer stories but that's not a guarantee just because there's more maps. On the other hand, character based story mode fits samurai warriors more than clan based.

Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Samurai Warriors 4 Empires Announced
Post by: bork on June 02, 2015, 04:07:02 PM
"Hyper attacks will be more effective when ally morale is high. Certain areas on the battlefield are fortified to inhibit these attacks."

But it's almost impossible to make your morale low.

Changed-up game.


Quote
The only real improvement I'm seeing in that list is infinite castle. :yeshrug maybe longer stories but that's not a guarantee just because there's more maps. On the other hand, character based story mode fits samurai warriors more than clan based.

It's not really "character-based stories."  It's still pretty similar to how SW4 worked, but there's more story routes now.  Infinite Castle is pretty fucking awesome.  They ripped it right out of SW3 Chronicles though.   :lol  Basically SW4-II is a reworking of SW4 and it feels less like an XL version.  I'd probably pass on it if you didn't like SW4 and/or had your fill with the first game.

I mean, One Piece Pirate Warriors 3 is out in August and is pretty awesome.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Samurai Warriors 4 Empires Announced
Post by: Himu on June 02, 2015, 04:56:33 PM
SW4 made me all musou'd out

Next musou for me is dw8e
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Samurai Warriors 4 Empires Announced
Post by: bork on June 02, 2015, 10:44:09 PM
SW4 made me all musou'd out

Next musou for me is dw8e

What are you waiting for?  That's been out for a little while...
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Samurai Warriors 4 Empires Announced
Post by: Himu on June 02, 2015, 10:47:27 PM
meh.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Samurai Warriors 4 Empires Announced
Post by: bork on June 03, 2015, 08:40:08 AM
:ufup
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Samurai Warriors 4 Empires Announced
Post by: bork on June 04, 2015, 10:38:21 AM
Sengoku Basara 4 Sumeragi is getting Street Fighter IV costumes!

http://www.siliconera.com/2015/06/03/close-up-with-sengoku-basara-4-sumeragis-street-fighter-iv-outfits/
(http://i.imgur.com/i693DpJ.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/Iup1tam.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/fwC1Gew.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/Lox1oNG.jpg)
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Samurai Warriors 4 Empires Announced
Post by: demi on June 10, 2015, 10:53:52 AM
Hyrule Warriors 3DS

https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=28&v=C2L8Cfafrvc
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Samurai Warriors 4 Empires Announced
Post by: archie4208 on June 10, 2015, 11:03:47 AM
 :zzz

Give me HW2.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Samurai Warriors 4 Empires Announced
Post by: Himu on June 10, 2015, 11:14:29 AM
How are those graphics for 3ds possible
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Samurai Warriors 4 Empires Announced
Post by: demi on June 10, 2015, 04:01:21 PM
Dragon Quest Heroes on Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00TUFUD0S/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=B00TUFUD0S&linkCode=as2&tag=thbo09f-20&linkId=GL6KE733MM24PWS6)
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Samurai Warriors 4 Empires Announced
Post by: bork on June 11, 2015, 08:35:13 AM
How are those graphics for 3ds possible

Looks like it could be cel-shaded possibly?  Or whatever it is that Smash 3DS does.  Looks pretty impressive though.  On par or better than One Piece Pirate Warriors 2 and 3 on Vita.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Samurai Warriors 4 Empires, Hyrule Warriors 3DS
Post by: eleuin on July 01, 2015, 10:06:09 PM
Bork did you buy SWC3

I'm enjoying it, just wished they'd let you know who was in your party before you start a mission

Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Samurai Warriors 4 Empires, Hyrule Warriors 3DS
Post by: bork on July 02, 2015, 01:53:17 AM
Bork did you buy SWC3

I'm enjoying it, just wished they'd let you know who was in your party before you start a mission

Yeah, downloaded but haven't had a chance to try it yet.  Plan on messing around with it during the exceedingly long travel time that I'll have tomorrow on the way back to the States.  Gotta be almost a full day of straight travel.   :-\
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Sengoku Basara 4 Out 7/24 - PUT YA GUNS ON
Post by: bork on July 19, 2015, 08:33:45 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V7EEmKKrOH0

Basara 4 Sumeragi is out this week.  I switched up my pre-order to the PS4 Limited Edition, since it comes with all the DLC outfits.  They now have outfits from Street Fighter, Biohazard, PRORESU, Monster Hunter, and the new Tales Of game.  The LE comes with them all.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Sengoku Basara 4 Sumeragi Out 7/23 - PUT YA GUNS ON
Post by: Bebpo on July 23, 2015, 04:30:50 AM
Really enjoying One Piece Musou 3.  As a musou game it's kind of average, not the best, not the worst playing.  But as a One Piece game it's really great and there's a lot of attention to detail (like how Sanji's team super changes when he's paired with a female; or Luffy becoming tiny Luffy after a Gear 3 musou attack).  They did a nice job with the story scenes and the roster and move list is solid.  About the only problem I have with the game is requiring replaying the same stage with a bunch of characters to unlock their second musou attack or alternate outfits or other moves.  Adds a little bit waste of time repetition when filling out the movelists.  Also yeah, the dream log making you play like 30 generic musou stages just to unlock a handful of characters that they don't give you in story mode is a bit of waste of time too.  On the plus side you get to have support characters on your team who are antagonists in the main story, so that's cool.

They definitely have enough characters who are support only (fully rendered model with 3 attacks) to last like 3 more games if they wanted to slowly make them all playable. While I wish the roster was bigger, I do appreciate being able to do team musous with giant snow bunnies. 

Since sales are down, I'm guessing this is the last OP for a while and they'll probably come back to it in a few years, just like I expect them to come back to Gundam musou in a few years when there's more new material to cover.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Sengoku Basara 4 Sumeragi Out 7/23 - PUT YA GUNS ON
Post by: bork on July 27, 2015, 02:27:17 PM
My copy of Sengoku Basara 4 Sumeragi came in today.  Looks insane!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ij90i5kgOGU

Took longer to get mine since I ended up switching back to the regular edition.  P-A had no idea when the LE was going to be in stock.  Checked their site just now and it still says that the stock is pending arrival. 
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Sengoku Basara 4 Sumeragi Out 7/23 - PUT YA GUNS ON
Post by: bork on July 27, 2015, 02:43:31 PM
This video can be played in 60 FPS and shows how smooth the game runs on PS4.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RUyPOLdMd68

I like that the roulette wheel turns Kasuga into a bomb-laying NPC for a while.   :lol
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Sengoku Basara 4 Sumeragi Out 7/23 - PUT YA GUNS ON
Post by: Bebpo on July 27, 2015, 06:56:11 PM
Forget costumes, they should just put other Capcom characters in these games.  Like they get sucked into a time portal or something and end up in Sengoku.  Add the real Chun-li, add Ryu, add Dante, etc... just like how Warriors Orochi had Hayabusa, Ayane and stuff.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Sengoku Basara 4 Sumeragi Out 7/23 - PUT YA GUNS ON
Post by: bork on July 28, 2015, 08:32:33 AM
SB4 Sumeragi:

Played through Kasuga's drama route last night on hard.  Had Kenshin as my partner.  Capcom has managed to make this game even more insane-- One stage was a battle against forest animals.  You have to defeat Yamanaka Shikanosuke's deer, who is being protected by bears, moles, and other creatures.  Those bears do a shitload of damage if they get to you.   :lol  Some stages now have a roulette wheel symbol on them.  When you play these levels, you'll come across enemies who make the wheel spin or you'll get it when defeating enemies holding an outpost.  This causes all kinds of craziness.  You might turn into one of those giant 'spider' tanks and can smash through enemies.  You might turn into a bomb-throwing enemy NPC.  On one level, I turned into a samurai who caused large gold coins to drop everywhere.  His attacks were one-hit kills...even against the stage bosses!   While the game play is still the same from SB4, there are some new moves for the older characters and you can now switch and play as your partner right from the start-- in SB4 you couldn't do this until getting a character to level 50.  This can make harder fights much more bearable, since if either character is defeated, they can be brought back with full energy (their lifebar fills back up slowly, but if you stand near them it goes up much faster) and the game will not end until both characters are down.  Some battles can be pretty challenging at a lower level, however, with certain enemy attacks killing you in just a few hits.  It took me a while to win a fight against Fuuma Kotaro and Matsunaga, for example, since my characters were way underleveled. 

Didn't try any of the new characters (well, Kasuga and Kenshin are newly-playable in Sumeragi, but there are a few new or newly-playable characters who weren't in previous games) yet.  Will do that tonight.  The returning characters also feel more "complete" compared to their SB3 Utage versions, with full movesets and multiple supers like everyone else this time around.

I don't know about the PS3 version (assuming it's the same), but the PS4 version of Sumeragi also contains all of the content from vanilla SB4.  If you have SB4 on PS3, you can update the game and upload your save data for use on PS4, much like Koei does with their musou games, carrying over all your progress.  They've raised the level caps to an insane 999 now.

The game runs buttery smooth on PS4.  It's 1080P and a rock-solid 60 FPS, which looks great and is more impressive than Koei's titles given the speed of everything, although the models can look a bit dated in close-ups and it appears that some small in-game cut scenes are using video instead of being done in real-time. 

Sumeragi is definitely worth picking up.  Chances of it coming out in English are pretty slim, however.

Forget costumes, they should just put other Capcom characters in these games.  Like they get sucked into a time portal or something and end up in Sengoku.  Add the real Chun-li, add Ryu, add Dante, etc... just like how Warriors Orochi had Hayabusa, Ayane and stuff.

Would love to see this.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Sengoku Basara 4 Sumeragi Out 7/23 - PUT YA GUNS ON
Post by: Trent Dole on July 28, 2015, 09:49:19 PM
Pretty sure Capcom said NO more SB outside of Nippon cause literally nobody bought the one they put out on Wii and PS3. :gloomy
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Sengoku Basara 4 Sumeragi Out 7/23 - PUT YA GUNS ON
Post by: bork on July 29, 2015, 08:40:04 AM
Tried out Kyougoku Maria.  Despite her name and appearance, she was not a foreigner and is Azai Nagamasa's sister.  The name comes from her conversion to Christianity.

And this character is straight-up crazy.  Kooky walk, skipping instead of running, and lots of fun attacks using her ribbons, which remind of both Rose from Street Fighter (she also has Rose's outfit as DLC) and Koshoushou from Sengoku Musou.  In fact, her super is very similar to Koshoushou's musou attack, only crazier-- she swings from a ribbon while 'dance' music plays and disco lights flash, and you can press buttons to send out neon light attacks.   :lol  You can also toss ribbons at enemies and make them twirl around.  Fun as hell.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=og6TF1qdwzI

Pretty sure Capcom said NO more SB outside of Nippon cause literally nobody bought the one they put out on Wii and PS3. :gloomy

Well, this is the fourth Basara game (following SB3 Utage, SB Chronicle Heroes, and SB4) to come out since SB3, so I can believe that. 
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Sengoku Basara 4 Sumeragi Out 7/23 - PUT YA GUNS ON
Post by: bork on July 29, 2015, 08:47:24 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=el6z3dBRYTw

 :sabu
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Sengoku Basara 4 Sumeragi Out 7/23 - PUT YA GUNS ON
Post by: bork on July 30, 2015, 09:11:37 AM
Arslan is getting an English release!  PS3, PS4, and Xboner.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydUI3gLnsNY
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Arslan Coming Out In English!
Post by: Himu on July 30, 2015, 01:19:45 PM
What the fuck is Arslan
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Arslan Coming Out In English!
Post by: Trent Dole on July 30, 2015, 01:32:47 PM
Some old shit that recently got revived I guess
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Heroic_Legend_of_Arslan
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Arslan Coming Out In English!
Post by: bork on July 30, 2015, 01:47:39 PM
What the fuck is Arslan

An awesome anime that you can watch on Hulu!

:bow Arlsan :bow2

I guess this one falls under the "best show that nobody is watching" category.  We've now watched the first 13 episodes of the series and it has been absolutely fantastic the whole way through.  Great characters, great story, and excellent art/animation.  I never saw the original OVAs or read the book/comics this is based on, so I have no idea how much this deviates from the source material, if at all, but this is essentially an anime version of Middle Eastern characters outsmarting and beating the shit out of European crusaders.   :lol  Nobody actually looks like whatever country they're supposed to be from, but it's pretty obvious that this is the case.  The big bad also wears a silver mask on his face and gives me kind of a Char vibe, although he's pretty much 100% evil.

The other vibe I get from this show...is musou.  I can absolutely see why Koei is making a musou game out of this series, because it fits perfectly.  Pretty much every main character is a total badass who has no problem going through numerous grunts and is only matched by other 'generals.' 

Watch it!

And it is indeed based on an old Persian story.

Let me also mention that everyone is a badass...except for Arslan.  But that makes sense in the context of the story.  Thankfully the focus is not solely on him and every episode is an ensemble story.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Arslan Coming Out In English!
Post by: bork on July 30, 2015, 01:53:08 PM
In addition to the four shown in the English trailer, Gieve and Farangis have been announced.  Gieve is a wandering, womanizing minstrel and Farangis is a bad-ass warrior priestess sent to help Arslan.

(http://i.imgur.com/nuvQBC5.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/Dwg1YfB.jpg)

The game also has a new musou gimmick where you can have an entire army attack the enemies on-screen!

(http://i.imgur.com/lGEDdpw.jpg)
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Arslan Coming Out In English!
Post by: Himu on July 30, 2015, 02:00:03 PM
You're telling me they could have went with amano design and didn't? :snoop
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Arslan Coming Out In English!
Post by: bork on July 30, 2015, 02:08:01 PM
You're telling me they could have went with amano design and didn't? :snoop

Why would they go with an old design and not the current ones, from the anime airing right now and the manga that's drawn by the guy who did Full Metal Alchemist?

:what
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Arslan Coming Out In English!
Post by: Himu on July 30, 2015, 02:11:26 PM
At least it looks like an anime this time. One piece warriors looked like shit.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Arslan Coming Out In English!
Post by: bork on July 30, 2015, 02:13:33 PM
At least it looks like an anime this time. One piece warriors looked like shit.

Looks pretty good to me.

(http://cdn4.dualshockers.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/One-Piece-Pirate-Warriors-3-1.jpg)

:idont
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Arslan Coming Out In English!
Post by: Himu on July 30, 2015, 02:25:07 PM
That must be 3, 1 and 2 look bad
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Arslan Coming Out In English!
Post by: Rufus on July 30, 2015, 03:06:54 PM
You're telling me they could have went with amano design and didn't? :snoop

Why would they go with an old design and not the current ones, from the anime airing right now and the manga that's drawn by the gal who did Full Metal Alchemist?

:what
Fixed
(http://cdn.anisearch.com/images/person/cover/full/6/6911.jpg)

 :heartbeat
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Arslan Coming Out In English!
Post by: bork on July 30, 2015, 03:16:49 PM
That must be 3, 1 and 2 look bad

Kaizoku Musou 2 looked good, too, if a bit simple.  Maybe it's 1?

(http://nerdreactor.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/one-piece-pirate-warriors-2.jpg)
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Arslan Coming Out In English!
Post by: Himu on July 30, 2015, 03:39:00 PM
I just think this new game gets the style of the anime more. One piece games feel like 3d blobs compared to the anime and manga
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Arslan Coming Out In English!
Post by: Bebpo on July 30, 2015, 05:54:00 PM
You're crazy.  One Piece Musou look great and very much like the manga brought to life.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Arslan Coming Out In English!
Post by: Himu on July 30, 2015, 06:17:52 PM
No it doesn't. It's just standard 3d with barely any stylization. They look good because they're bright and well animated but they don't look like One Piece. The exception seems to be 3, which I've never played. 1 and 2 have flat, boring 3d characters. Where's the thick character outlines? How come the game doesn't look like it was inked via manga style? That new animu Musou looks straight out of an anime. I want One Piece Musou to look like THAT. 3 probably does. I haven't been paying attention to that game at all.

Compare that last OP shot to the one Lyte posted from OP3. Night and day, OP Musou 1 and 2's art direction was :trash 3 is much more like it.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Arslan Coming Out In English!
Post by: Bebpo on July 30, 2015, 07:44:39 PM
Ok, sorry, I'll back down on this.  I forgot OPM1 looked very plastic-y.  I don't remember what OPM2 looked like, but 3 looks very manga-ish and the story scenes are straight up manga panels brought to life with color and voice.  It's good stuff.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Arslan Coming Out In English!
Post by: Himu on July 30, 2015, 09:04:23 PM
Really? May have to get it
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Arslan Coming Out In English!
Post by: Bebpo on July 31, 2015, 01:02:20 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tAzjbrtEu4o&feature=youtu.be

To me, especially with the story panel style of storytelling, it has a very manga-ish feel.  The game doesn't look "anime" to me, but rather manga-ish and that's fine cause I don't watch OP anime and I just read the manga.  The story mode is great and covers the entire story from chapter 1 through Dressrosa's start (skips some small arcs, but keeps others.  Having not watched the anime it's kind of cool seeing colors for certain characters (never knew Orz was red) or hearing voices (Hate Doflamingo's voice, I thought he'd have a high pitched crazy voice, but it's deep and manly which strikes me as weird given his looks and dialogue).
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Arslan Coming Out In English!
Post by: Himu on July 31, 2015, 01:05:07 AM
Not bad. Unfortunately the next musou I buy is DW8 empires
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Arslan Coming Out In English!
Post by: Trent Dole on July 31, 2015, 01:17:03 AM
Still waiting on a good steam sale for that, it went on during the summer stuffs but was still kinda high for a side game.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Arslan Coming Out In English!
Post by: bork on July 31, 2015, 07:11:42 AM
Not bad. Unfortunately the next musou I buy is DW8 empires

Skip it if you're thinking about PC.  It has issues.  Don't know if One Piece Pirate Warriors 3 is based on the PS4 version, but Samurai Warriors 4-II will be.  SW4 is getting an Empires game too btw.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Arslan Coming Out In English!
Post by: Himu on July 31, 2015, 08:15:01 AM
I want DW8E for ps4. Will get it when I get a ps4.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Arslan Coming Out In English!
Post by: bork on July 31, 2015, 09:34:22 AM
I want DW8E for ps4. Will get it when I get a ps4.

I see the price has dropped on it a bit (unless it was always $40, in which case never mind) which makes me interested in picking it up, but I have a full plate with Basara 4 Sumeragi, Samurai Warriors Chronicles 3, Sengoku Musou 4-II (still pretty much unplayed), and One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3 (ditto).  I probably should have just held off on the latter and waited for the American release since I got it with Senran Kagura EV and spent all my time with that game, which I'm still not done with yet...have 30 hours or so put in now.

Also getting back into Basara with Sumeragi has once again proven that Basara is the better action-musou.  Obviously not where to go if you want strategy elements though.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Arslan Coming Out In English!
Post by: Mr. Gundam on July 31, 2015, 12:53:31 PM
My wife was like "what do you want for your birthday?" I had no clue, so I said "Basara 4 Sumeragi for PS4." Should be here Monday.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Arslan Coming Out In English!
Post by: bork on July 31, 2015, 12:56:19 PM
My wife was like "what do you want for your birthday?" I had no clue, so I said "Basara 4 Sumeragi for PS4." Should be here Monday.

 :itagaki

Sites of interest that will help with translation and character abilities:

http://www.raindropsanddaydreams.co.uk/2015/04/sengoku-basara-4-sumeragi-reference.html
http://cuhrayzee.wikia.com/wiki/Sengoku_Basara_%28series%29
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Arslan Coming Out In English!
Post by: Mr. Gundam on July 31, 2015, 12:58:27 PM
I shouldbe fine. My nihongo-skills were mad enough to get through vanilla Basara 4. Well, the little I played of it.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Arslan Coming Out In English!
Post by: bork on July 31, 2015, 03:38:03 PM
I shouldbe fine. My nihongo-skills were mad enough to get through vanilla Basara 4. Well, the little I played of it.

You're gonna want to check that stuff for assistance on what the weapon add-ons/elements and items are and for the stages where there are certain "requirements" to get through areas if things pop up.  The raindrops site also gives tips on finding some of the hidden routes.  This game is full of kanji, kanji, everywhere.  I don't recall any spots even having the characters' names in hiragana, let alone all those items and modifiers.  But apart from that stuff, everything is pretty straight-forward, sure.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Arslan Coming Out In English!
Post by: Mr. Gundam on July 31, 2015, 04:20:29 PM
More kanji than before? Huh. Thanks!!
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Arslan Coming Out In English!
Post by: bork on July 31, 2015, 05:05:35 PM
More kanji than before? Huh. Thanks!!

It was already pretty heavy, but there's more sub-menus now, lol.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Arslan Coming Out In English!
Post by: bork on August 05, 2015, 02:36:54 PM
Sengoku Basara 4 Sumeragi inscription translations!

http://daviziu.bplaced.net/SB4/

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Jcdyh01ybCQQd9ZVKavdOF7qPA9wBtm63TpsEbRL0nk/edit?pli=1#gid=0
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Arslan Coming Out In English!
Post by: Bebpo on August 28, 2015, 03:41:36 AM
Apparently the PC version of One Piece Musou 3 is based off the...vita version....wow.  Major warning for anyone considering getting it on PC. 

http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/140253


I wonder how many years until Koei will stop fucking up their PC ports.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Arslan Coming Out In English!
Post by: bork on August 28, 2015, 10:09:08 AM
:dead
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Arslan Coming Out In English!
Post by: Himu on August 28, 2015, 12:19:21 PM
:dead
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Arslan Coming Out In English!
Post by: bork on September 18, 2015, 08:19:16 AM
Koei is bringing out Samurai Warriors 4 Empires in English early next year.  PS3, PS4, and Vita listed...no PC.  Hmm.

Attack on Titan is looking :zzz.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MI1C_nw_Ex4
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Arslan Coming Out In English!
Post by: Mr. Gundam on September 18, 2015, 03:59:55 PM
Attack on Titan is looking :zzz.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MI1C_nw_Ex4

What did you expect? Musou? It's pretty much what I thought it would be.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Samurai Warriors 4 Empires Coming To 'Murica
Post by: studyguy on September 18, 2015, 04:05:04 PM
Looks real weak.
Also I've been thinking of buying Nobunaga's Ambition. Have a thing for Romance of the Three Kingdoms but at the same time I'm a dumbass at 4x games.
What a struggle.
 :brazilcry
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Samurai Warriors 4 Empires Coming To 'Murica
Post by: Bebpo on September 18, 2015, 05:51:48 PM
Maybe Attack on Titan would be better as a Monhun type Tokiden game?
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Samurai Warriors 4 Empires Coming To 'Murica
Post by: bork on September 19, 2015, 07:45:11 AM
Maybe Attack on Titan would be better as a Monhun type Tokiden game?

Yeah, I think that would work better.  Although it would need to be faster-paced.

What did you expect? Musou? It's pretty much what I thought it would be.

Something not so empty and boring-looking? 
:idont
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Samurai Warriors 4 Empires Coming To 'Murica
Post by: bork on September 25, 2015, 11:51:06 AM
Arslan is looking good!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fbMt5Kmb7cw

Comes out next week.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Samurai Warriors 4 Empires Coming To 'Murica
Post by: bork on September 30, 2015, 02:14:14 PM
Samurai Warriors 4-II is out.  I ended up getting it on PS4/Vita since I spent so little time with the import.  Might as well try it in English for once.

And the PC version is another big 'lie' like One Piece.  It's not based on the PS4 version.  :-\
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Samurai Warriors 4 Empires Coming To 'Murica
Post by: Mr. Gundam on September 30, 2015, 03:59:05 PM
Maybe Attack on Titan would be better as a Monhun type Tokiden game?

Yeah, I think that would work better.  Although it would need to be faster-paced.

What did you expect? Musou? It's pretty much what I thought it would be.

Something not so empty and boring-looking? 
:idont

Aren't the battles in the anime pretty empty aside from the kids and the titans?
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Samurai Warriors 4 Empires Coming To 'Murica
Post by: Bebpo on September 30, 2015, 06:07:23 PM
Arslan looks cool.  Since I'm not interested in the IP, I'll wait a couple more games until the playable cast is bigger.  But the art style and combat looks nice.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Samurai Warriors 4 Empires Coming To 'Murica
Post by: bork on September 30, 2015, 11:21:59 PM
Maybe Attack on Titan would be better as a Monhun type Tokiden game?

Yeah, I think that would work better.  Although it would need to be faster-paced.

What did you expect? Musou? It's pretty much what I thought it would be.

Something not so empty and boring-looking? 
:idont

Aren't the battles in the anime pretty empty aside from the kids and the titans?

I dunno; I never watched all of it.  It's not something I really got into as much as I thought I would.

Arslan looks cool.  Since I'm not interested in the IP, I'll wait a couple more games until the playable cast is bigger.  But the art style and combat looks nice.

The game has all of the main characters playable.  There really isn't much of anyone left to add apart from 'scrubs'...this is not like One Piece.  Am wondering how they will handle the game's story since the anime is over and was left very open-ended.  I don't know how much farther ahead the manga is, if at all.

Interestingly enough, there is an Asian PS3 version out with English text and subtitles.  I wonder why PS4 didn't get this?
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Samurai Warriors 4 Empires Coming To 'Murica
Post by: bork on October 01, 2015, 10:21:39 PM
Got this on PS4; Arslan seems like it would probably be way more impressive on PS3, although I've read that the PS3 version has a lot of slowdown. It really feels like an uprezzed PS3 title and doesn't look as good as Samurai Warriors 4-II does, nor One Piece Pirate Warriors 3, for that matter. I also didn't see the Omega Force logo anywhere, which means this was developed by a 'B-Team'.

The game isn't bad by any means, but it's a little on the slow side and feels like a pretty average musou game so far. Similar to Dynasty Warriors 8, right down to switching between two weapons. It has a shit-ton of storyline, following the anime pretty closely. Most of it is told via semi-animated 2D cut scenes, which also play while the next stage loads. There appears to be a pretty good roster available and a good number of looks for the characters. I'd say this is worth getting if you really like Arslan, but otherwise I wouldn't bother from what I've played. Disappointingly-average so far.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Samurai Warriors 4 Empires Coming To 'Murica
Post by: Bebpo on October 02, 2015, 01:28:22 AM
Shame.  Especially the slow stuff.  Musou's should be high-speed exciting action.  The slow ones always turn me off like OPM1, FoTNS, a bunch of the DW games with big maps and only a slow horse to get around, etc...
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Samurai Warriors 4 Empires Coming To 'Murica
Post by: bork on October 02, 2015, 09:04:38 AM
I get a OPM1 vibe from this.  But I will keep going and see how the game opens up.  I did enjoy the first Ken's Rage, however.  It was more like a regular beat em up.  Arslan is clearly a musou game that is too heavily story driven for its own good.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Samurai Warriors 4 Empires Coming To 'Murica
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on October 03, 2015, 11:07:08 AM
Another Fall of Musou for me :rejoice
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Samurai Warriors 4 Empires Coming To 'Murica
Post by: bork on October 06, 2015, 06:06:43 PM
Played the game a bit more.  A "Produced By Omega Force" screen does come up in the beginning...but I'm guessing that it's just that- produced by them, because in game it lacks polish.

I think the game is a bit better than I initially though, but it's still pretty average and I don't like how some characters, at least initially, don't have two weapons to use.  The menus seem to indicate that they can get more weapons, but I'm unsure.

I started just skipping the story sequences entirely because they're A) entirely too numerous and B) just semi-animated versions of the story I already watched in the anime series.  The levels follow the story pretty closely, which I like, but a lot of levels I played feel like you can just run past everyone and get to a goal and/or take out one guy to end everything.  There's nothing really strategic going on here so far.

Also had a nasty glitch, when playing on Gieve's first stage, where the camera stopped and stayed in a fixed, static position.  I was still able to move around freely and managed to beat the level by using the mini map, lol.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Samurai Warriors 4 Empires Coming To 'Murica
Post by: bork on November 07, 2015, 09:27:13 PM
Dynasty Warriors 8 Empires is $19 on Amazon.  Ordered a copy...in for that price!

I never did play more of Arslan.  It's just a disappointment.  Uninstalled it and will be selling it off next time I'm in Japan early next year.  I suppose I should look into selling stuff back to Play-Asia instead of just waiting though.

Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Samurai Warriors 4 Empires Coming To 'Murica
Post by: bork on November 07, 2015, 10:33:11 PM
And wooooow Empires is a huge visual downgrade from 8XL.   :-\  And the framerate still sucks.

Don't buy this.  Wait for Samurai 4 Empires.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Samurai Warriors 4 Empires Coming To 'Murica
Post by: Rise on November 08, 2015, 02:58:44 PM
I like DW8E  :( it runs badly, but usually there's a lot more going on with the AI and battles in Empires games

how are import impressions of SW4E, anyways?
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Samurai Warriors 4 Empires Coming To 'Murica
Post by: bork on November 08, 2015, 07:50:31 PM
I'm 'stuck' with it so will probably keep on going.  I see that the Vita port -which apparently has all the DLC and some extra new features- is coming out here in a few weeks.  I should have waited for that.

No idea how Sengoku Musou 4 Empires is.  I just know it will run well.   :doge
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Samurai Warriors 4 Empires Coming To 'Murica
Post by: bork on November 09, 2015, 12:18:39 PM
I played it some more last night and started having fun with it, because of the custom characters.  You can make someone and then give them different weapons and different special moves, mixing and matching stuff.  That's pretty cool.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Samurai Warriors 4 Empires Coming To 'Murica
Post by: Trent Dole on November 12, 2015, 12:43:04 PM
So uh my steam update splash page is an advertisement for a forthcoming port of Dragon Quest Heroes, but clicking this to preorder/obtain details merely send me to steam's frontpage! ???
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Samurai Warriors 4 Empires Coming To 'Murica
Post by: archie4208 on November 12, 2015, 12:53:06 PM
:omg :omg :omg
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Samurai Warriors 4 Empires Coming To 'Murica
Post by: bork on November 12, 2015, 02:13:43 PM
I wouldn't get so excited with Koei-Tecmo's PC port track record.   :doge
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Samurai Warriors 4 Empires Coming To 'Murica
Post by: Trent Dole on November 12, 2015, 06:29:10 PM
Yeah it'll probably be a dump of the Vita version that they'll want $50 bones for. :maf But hey just wait for the first major sale and scoop it up then.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Samurai Warriors 4 Empires Coming To 'Murica
Post by: archie4208 on November 12, 2015, 06:42:15 PM
The only English version is PS4.  I wanna believe it'll be based off that version, but knowing KT it's going to be the PS3 version.   :gloomy
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Samurai Warriors 4 Empires Coming To 'Murica
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on November 29, 2015, 09:21:36 AM
Wound up finishing Samurai Warriors 4 II.  Good game, I liked the survival tower (got up to the 100th level).  In hindsight, it's best to level up through the survival tower.  There were some amazing weapons and mounts that were dropped, as well as strategy tomes.  I remember going through the survival tower twice (the first time I stopped because it was about 2 AM) and in both times, I wound up getting hundreds of strategy tomes.  Then you can unlock the ability for more tomes to be dropped.

Next on tap is DQ Heroes.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Samurai Warriors 4 Empires Coming To 'Murica
Post by: bork on December 17, 2015, 09:44:11 AM
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Capcom has released the first screenshots and information for its newly announced Sengoku Basara: Sanada Yukimura-Den for PlayStation 4 and PlayStation 3.

Sengoku Basara: Sanada Yukimura-Den is a lengthy drama that depicts the life of Sanada Yukimura. Military leaders are expressed in their original historical view, and different from previous entries in the series, the story develops closer to historical fact. Players will follow Sanada’s growth to adulthood until the summer campaign of the siege of Osaka.

Read more at http://gematsu.com/2015/12/sengoku-basara-sanada-yukimura-den-first-screenshots-synopsis#vXedKMxVptQAKBaB.99

And then I look at the screenshots and it looks just like SB4 and shows a playable Date Masamune.
:huh
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Samurai Warriors 4 Empires Coming To 'Murica
Post by: Trent Dole on December 17, 2015, 12:19:33 PM
The stages of the game will also be based on famous battles which actually took place in japan.
So here's this giant enemy crab.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Samurai Warriors 4 Empires Coming To 'Murica
Post by: bork on December 17, 2015, 12:46:13 PM
The stages of the game will also be based on famous battles which actually took place in japan.
So here's this giant enemy crab.

They're actually recreating that famous Playstation 2 Genji moment.  :doge
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Samurai Warriors 4 Empires Coming To 'Murica
Post by: MoxManiac on January 10, 2016, 01:11:52 PM
Arslan demo coming to US playstation store this tuesday.

Despite Lyte's lukewarm impressions I really want to try it.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Samurai Warriors 4 Empires Coming To 'Murica
Post by: bork on January 10, 2016, 11:08:57 PM
Arslan demo coming to US playstation store this tuesday.

Despite Lyte's lukewarm impressions I really want to try it.


:donot
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Samurai Warriors 4 Empires Coming To 'Murica
Post by: MoxManiac on January 13, 2016, 12:48:06 PM
Okay, I admit it. Based on the demo it's pretty underwhelming.  :-\

Why is a PS4 game that looks this bad not 60fps?
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Samurai Warriors 4 Empires Coming To 'Murica
Post by: bork on January 13, 2016, 01:07:37 PM
Lazy PS3 port, I guess.  Such an underwhelming game and a real shame since the license is absolutely perfect for musou.  :-\

In other news, Dragon Quest Heroes 2 now has a release date of May in Japan.

Hyrule Warriors is out on 3DS next week (also in J-land).  I will probably get it digitally because I'm impatient and stupid.  :doge
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Samurai Warriors 4 Empires Coming To 'Murica
Post by: bork on January 18, 2016, 11:59:58 PM
Hyrule Warriors 3DS got a demo in Japan.  I just tried it out and it runs pretty smoothly on the N3DS with 3D off (noticeable drop with it on).  Wouldn't want to play this on a regular 3DS after seeing that comparison video that's floating around.  :doge

It's the same ol' Hyrule Warriors play-wise, only now it uses the same system as Samurai Warriors Chronicles, allowing you to switch between and control multiple characters on the battlefield.  So in stage one, you're not just playing as Link, but now Zelda and Impa too.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Samurai Warriors 4 Empires Coming To 'Murica
Post by: Bebpo on January 19, 2016, 01:13:26 AM
Considering the game runs like shit on Wii U, I am not surprised that it struggles to run on inferior hardware even with cutting back on stuff.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Samurai Warriors 4 Empires Coming To 'Murica
Post by: bork on January 20, 2016, 06:13:52 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wh4e2omN9Aw
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Samurai Warriors 4 Empires Coming To 'Murica
Post by: Bebpo on January 24, 2016, 10:09:12 PM
So Lyte and everyone agree that Arslan sucks and I totally believe them.  But man, Koei knows how to make a good trickery demo!  I finally tried the PS4 demo and it basically was an anime version of DW8.  Huge war maps, dual weapon gameplay, horses.  Hell it basically seemed like a reskinned DW8 with cell-shaded graphics and attack on titan-type epic anime score.  Which I mean, if I was into mainline DW, I'd really be into.  But apparently the main game is no good for some reason?

Was just surprising since all the other musou spin-offs play pretty different from mainline DW, so was interesting to play one that basically felt just like DW8.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Samurai Warriors 4 Empires Coming To 'Murica
Post by: bork on January 24, 2016, 11:22:39 PM
Take DW8 and make it super linear and eliminate needing to go take out various generals or use any real strategy on most maps, instead having you just run forward and slash some dudes, but generally just get to the end.  Now make it play worse.  Now add in some nasty camera glitches.  And top it off with tons and tons of barely-animated cut scenes.  That's Arslan.

I uninstalled that shit months ago and will be selling it off when I'm in Japan next month.  Good riddance.  I don't know how it's possible they could fuck up a musou game like this...but they did it.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Samurai Warriors 4 Empires Coming To 'Murica
Post by: MoxManiac on February 24, 2016, 09:18:02 PM
Looks like SW4 Empires hits NA next month, 3/15. Best Buy has a cover art, so the physical version is coming.

(http://pisces.bbystatic.com/image2/BestBuy_US/images/products/4683/4683305_sa.jpg;canvasHeight=360;canvasWidth=640)

Any word on how this was? It's been out in Japan a while, right?
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Samurai Warriors 4 Empires Coming To 'Murica
Post by: Mods Help on February 25, 2016, 12:43:26 AM
Supposedly disappointing?
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Samurai Warriors 4 Empires Coming To 'Murica
Post by: bork on February 25, 2016, 10:47:37 AM
No idea how it is.  I am planning on picking it up...looks good to me!  AFAIK all these games still get physical releases over here...on PS4.  Vita and PS3 are digital.

Dragon Quest Heroes II is also looking very good and appears to be ditching the tower defense crap.  It will also have 4P cross-play co-op.  I'm definitely gonna get it now.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Samurai Warriors 4 Empires Coming To 'Murica
Post by: Bebpo on February 25, 2016, 02:19:02 PM
Are you getting Attack on Titan?
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Samurai Warriors 4 Empires Coming To 'Murica
Post by: bork on February 25, 2016, 02:38:38 PM
Nah, not my thing.  I'm not really big on the series and the gameplay looks kinda boring to me.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Samurai Warriors 4 Empires Coming To 'Murica
Post by: archie4208 on March 21, 2016, 01:13:34 PM
DW8XL is $20 and Samurai Warriors 4-II is $25 on Steam this week.

Which one bois?  I haven't played a musou since Hyrule Warriors (and I was honestly thinking about getting HW for 3DS for the new maps, but I'll wait until the season pass content comes out).
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Samurai Warriors 4 Empires Coming To 'Murica
Post by: bork on March 21, 2016, 05:36:35 PM
DW8XL is $20 and Samurai Warriors 4-II is $25 on Steam this week.

Which one bois?  I haven't played a musou since Hyrule Warriors (and I was honestly thinking about getting HW for 3DS for the new maps, but I'll wait until the season pass content comes out).

Without knowing what SW4-II's performance is like on PC, I'm not sure on the technical front, but it really boils down to whether or not you want the Chinese setting or the Japanese setting.  Personally I like SW4 more than DW8 for its faster-paced playstyle and characters.

EDIT: Looks like SW4-II is like DW8XL was, I.E. it's the Playstation 3 version on PC, but with a better framerate.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Samurai Warriors 4 Empires Coming To 'Murica
Post by: Trent Dole on March 21, 2016, 08:49:58 PM
Yeah, get both if you can. Otherwise 4-II is more recent so maybe that one? As FA says it's more down to do you wanna mow down China or Japan lots.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Samurai Warriors 4 Empires Coming To 'Murica
Post by: bork on April 05, 2016, 11:23:09 AM
Dynasty Warriors: Eiketsuden got announced for Japan.  PS3/PS4/Vita.  They're following Capcom here and making it a game based around Zhao Yun as the main character.  However, this is not an action game, but will instead be a turn-based strategy/RPG where Zhao Yun goes to a parallel world and builds up an army.  Not my cup of tea from the description.

EDIT: Apparently it will have musou-style action scenes too, which can be...skipped?   ???

Meanwhile, Sengoku Basara: Legend of Sanada Yukimura comes out in September and will have Capcom's version of Sanada Nobuyuki as a playable character, plus their father Sanada Masayuki.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Samurai Warriors 4 Empires Coming To 'Murica
Post by: MoxManiac on April 09, 2016, 11:28:35 AM
Zhao Yun is like the most boring DW character ever. :zzz

Arslan is $26.72 on amazon at the time of this post. Kinda tempted even though we all agreed it was sucky.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Samurai Warriors 4 Empires Coming To 'Murica
Post by: bork on April 10, 2016, 06:05:00 PM
Arslan is $26.72 on amazon at the time of this post. Kinda tempted even though we all agreed it was sucky.

Best to forget it even exists.  Just watch the anime.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Dragon Quest Heroes II!
Post by: bork on May 24, 2016, 01:36:42 PM
Dragon Quest Heroes II is out this week in J-land for PS3, PS4, and Vita.  Anyone else importing?

Famitsu gave it a money hat review of 39/40.

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Koei Tecmo has announced its lineup for E3 2016, which includes Nioh and Attack on Titan, as well as confirmed it will “reveal an unannounced, top-secret title at the show, currently in development at Omega Force.”

Star Wars musou coming?
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Dragon Quest Heroes II!
Post by: Bebpo on May 24, 2016, 04:18:10 PM
Dragon Quest Heroes II is out this week in J-land for PS3, PS4, and Vita.  Anyone else importing?

Famitsu gave it a money hat review of 39/40.

Quote
Koei Tecmo has announced its lineup for E3 2016, which includes Nioh and Attack on Titan, as well as confirmed it will “reveal an unannounced, top-secret title at the show, currently in development at Omega Force.”

Star Wars musou coming?

Nah, DQH was too boring after 5 hours.  If it plays totally different and there's no tower defense stuff, maybe I'll pick up the US release.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Dragon Quest Heroes II!
Post by: bork on May 24, 2016, 09:21:13 PM
Dragon Quest Heroes II is out this week in J-land for PS3, PS4, and Vita.  Anyone else importing?

Famitsu gave it a money hat review of 39/40.

Quote
Koei Tecmo has announced its lineup for E3 2016, which includes Nioh and Attack on Titan, as well as confirmed it will “reveal an unannounced, top-secret title at the show, currently in development at Omega Force.”

Star Wars musou coming?

Nah, DQH was too boring after 5 hours.  If it plays totally different and there's no tower defense stuff, maybe I'll pick up the US release.

Have you not been following it?  It's pretty different now.  There's an overworld map to traverse, an endless dungeon, online multiplayer, big boss battles where you control giant ogres and fight dragons, etc.  I'm pretty pumped for it.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Dragon Quest Heroes II!
Post by: AdmiralViscen on May 24, 2016, 11:51:16 PM
Is it going to be localized?
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Dragon Quest Heroes II!
Post by: Trent Dole on May 25, 2016, 02:35:41 AM
The first one was, and was even ported over to steam. Don't see why II wouldn't be brought over.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Dragon Quest Heroes II!
Post by: bork on May 25, 2016, 10:29:15 AM
GET HYPED BREHZ

Trailer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-uWwxDnfsdQ

Online Co-Op
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=US7IO3E3nWo

PS4 gameplay (1080P/60 FPS)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-GCLcD5RAM

Vita gameplay (720P)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d1dvXoxKuEU

Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Dragon Quest Heroes II!
Post by: bork on May 25, 2016, 10:38:52 AM
Opening:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vz1OHML-_E8

Playing as Atlas:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YV4Ul6UPI8I

Info on multiplayer.  The space-time labrynth lets you use characters from DQH1!
http://www.siliconera.com/2016/05/18/dragon-quest-heroes-ii-recaps-youll-get-team-friends/

Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Dragon Quest Heroes II!
Post by: bork on May 26, 2016, 09:56:36 AM
Here's 30 minutes of footage from the Vita port.  Really liking how this looks to be a fusion of action/RPG and musou now and not just tower defense musou.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPRbav9Osak

Getting my copies tomorrow.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Dragon Quest Heroes II!
Post by: bork on May 27, 2016, 03:17:00 PM
Got the game and have been checking out the Vita version on my lunch break.  Looks and run damn well on the portable.  Definitely more impressive visually (and framerate-wise) than previous Koei musou games.  Must be that Square Enix budget helping them out.  You do have to use the touch screen to make up for the lack of L2 and R2, but it's for rolling mainly and this is thankfully easy to hit with your thumb.

I'm sure it will look much nicer on PS4 (and it runs at twice the framerate), but this seems good enough that I think I could have held off on the console version instead of double dipping.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Dragon Quest Heroes II!
Post by: Rahxephon91 on May 27, 2016, 07:32:45 PM
Yeah I'm interested in this one because it seems more of an actual ARPG and kind of like Zills Oll PS3.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Dragon Quest Heroes II!
Post by: Bebpo on May 27, 2016, 10:25:52 PM
Here's 30 minutes of footage from the Vita port.  Really liking how this looks to be a fusion of action/RPG and musou now and not just tower defense musou.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPRbav9Osak

Getting my copies tomorrow.

I'm weird in that I like rpgs and I sorta-like musou but rpg musou just sounds boring as fuck to me.  The musou games I like best are stuff like Gundam Musou 3 (my favorite musou of all time) with really small stages where you move quickly and smash through a ton of enemies.  The worst part of every musou game to me is the downtime when you're running between mobs.  Although tower defense is pretty bad too because it's more stressful than fun imo. 

I find musou games are very replayable, especially when they have good loot drops, so the smaller and shorter the stages the better.  Even though I like OPM2/3, the bigger stages really just meant more time wasted doing the long stuff over and over to get the specific characters or outfit drops I wanted.  I wish there were more musou games like Gundam Musou 3.  But I guess sales have shown that musou fans want big stages and lots of riding horses around, so I'll never get what I want.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Dragon Quest Heroes II!
Post by: bork on May 28, 2016, 10:25:28 AM
Here's 30 minutes of footage from the Vita port.  Really liking how this looks to be a fusion of action/RPG and musou now and not just tower defense musou.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPRbav9Osak

Getting my copies tomorrow.

I'm weird in that I like rpgs and I sorta-like musou but rpg musou just sounds boring as fuck to me.  The musou games I like best are stuff like Gundam Musou 3 (my favorite musou of all time) with really small stages where you move quickly and smash through a ton of enemies.  The worst part of every musou game to me is the downtime when you're running between mobs.  Although tower defense is pretty bad too because it's more stressful than fun imo. 

I find musou games are very replayable, especially when they have good loot drops, so the smaller and shorter the stages the better.  Even though I like OPM2/3, the bigger stages really just meant more time wasted doing the long stuff over and over to get the specific characters or outfit drops I wanted.  I wish there were more musou games like Gundam Musou 3.  But I guess sales have shown that musou fans want big stages and lots of riding horses around, so I'll never get what I want.

I see where you're coming from and I'll have to play more to let you know how much it's worth it.  Right now I'm impressed and other impressions are overwhelmingly-positive.  I need to get more of a challenge before I can decide where this ranks on the musou scale.  One thing I can say about DQH1 is that it did have some challenging levels at times, so I hope this follows suit.

You know what musou-style game has smaller-style levels like what you're describing?

...Senran Kagura.  ;)  Valkyrie Drive, too.  Get your perv on, Beps.  :doge
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Dragon Quest Heroes II!
Post by: bork on May 28, 2016, 10:27:38 AM
Yeah I'm interested in this one because it seems more of an actual ARPG and kind of like Zills Oll PS3.

It's right up your alley, I think.  This is definitely more "action" than "RPG" from what I've played.  It's nice having an open area to traverse through with different monsters to mess with.  Want to ignore all the slimes and just go for enemies that fight back?  No problem.  Want to kill everything?  Sure.  Want to just run through to the next area?  You can do that too.  I even noticed some kind of 'rare' monster types that popped up when I did a little backtracking...and this was right in the beginning!
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Dragon Quest Heroes II!
Post by: bork on June 06, 2016, 05:34:39 PM
Fate is looking good!  No sound in the video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNK3lOZ9_50
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Dragon Quest Heroes II!
Post by: Bebpo on June 12, 2016, 11:35:10 PM
So the countdown for the next Omega Force Musou was actually BERSERK MUSOU like we all dreamed but didn't think it actually would be because there's no way we'd be that lucky to get a new Berserk game in a genre that fits it near-perfectly.

More info on June 23rd when the website opens.  Already confirmed for localization.  PS3/PS4/Vita in Japan, PS3/PS4/Steam in the west.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Dragon Quest Heroes II!
Post by: Trent Dole on June 12, 2016, 11:37:18 PM
I was hoping for Orochi 4 from the hints but Berserk is a pretty natural fit for a Musou game so I'm hype anyway.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Dragon Quest Heroes II!
Post by: bork on June 12, 2016, 11:39:03 PM
I was hoping for Orochi 4 from the hints but Berserk is a pretty natural fit for a Musou game so I'm hype anyway.

I would rather have that than another licensed game, but if Berserk is a musou and not gimmicky shit like Attack on Titan or the first One Piece, I'm on it.

I'm also extremely skeptical after what happened with Arslan.  Forget Berserk being a "perfect fit" for musou...that was Arslan.  Watch the anime and it SCREAMS musou all over the place.

And the game came out and totally sucked.  :-\
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Dragon Quest Heroes II!
Post by: bork on July 14, 2016, 01:51:36 PM
http://gematsu.com/2016/07/samurai-warriors-sanada-maru-first-details-screenshots

Yup, another Samurai Warriors game.  :lol  They're following Capcom's lead with a game focused on Sanada.  This one looks kind of ambitious, with some open-world elements and time progression.

Looks way more interesting than that upcoming DW strategy game.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Dragon Quest Heroes II!
Post by: MoxManiac on August 01, 2016, 07:52:35 PM
everything was sanada.gif

What DW strategy game?

Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Dragon Quest Heroes II!
Post by: bork on August 01, 2016, 08:46:05 PM
everything was sanada.gif

What DW strategy game?

Shin Sangoku Musou: Eiketsuden.  Stars Zhao Yun.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Musou Stars Announced!
Post by: bork on September 13, 2016, 09:28:46 AM
Musou Stars just got announced for PS4 and Vita.  Guess they're finally done with PS3.  Crossover game with characters from various Tecmo-Koei titles including Ninja Gaiden, DOA, Toukiden, and Atelier.  So just them expanding on what they already started in Warriors Orochi 3, which is fine with me-- the guest characters were almost all I used.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VMBSSRqzR70

Looks good and will have Dynasty Warriors and Samurai Warriors characters, too.  So why just call this Orochi 4?
:heh
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Musou Stars Announced!
Post by: Bebpo on September 13, 2016, 02:40:33 PM
I wish KT had more interesting IPs, because cross-overs are fun.  Would've liked it if the game was a cross-over between ALL their musou games so far.  So you get like Luffy, Exia Gundam, Fist of the North Star guy, Arlsan person + the people in this game.  I'm assuming at least the Nioh guy will join this game since that's their new IP.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Musou Stars Announced!
Post by: Trent Dole on September 13, 2016, 10:02:34 PM
Once I figured out what MS was I kind of wondered why they didn't just make it Orochi 4. Whatever, giant crossover musou is best musou either way. :hyper
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Musou Stars Announced!
Post by: bork on September 14, 2016, 07:46:17 AM
Once I figured out what MS was I kind of wondered why they didn't just make it Orochi 4. Whatever, giant crossover musou is best musou either way. :hyper

Seems like this is Orochi 4...just with a name change.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Musou Stars Announced!
Post by: bork on September 14, 2016, 07:47:23 AM
I wish KT had more interesting IPs, because cross-overs are fun.  Would've liked it if the game was a cross-over between ALL their musou games so far.  So you get like Luffy, Exia Gundam, Fist of the North Star guy, Arlsan person + the people in this game.  I'm assuming at least the Nioh guy will join this game since that's their new IP.

That would probably be a licensing nightmare.

I would like to see a Jump Musou or a Dragonball Musou (that really seems like it would be a perfect fit) at some point...
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Musou Stars Announced!
Post by: Trent Dole on September 14, 2016, 10:12:25 PM
Yeah, this is basically Orochi 4 except not, and my wife asked if Gundam's were in it too. :lol
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Musou Stars Announced!
Post by: Bebpo on September 14, 2016, 10:17:44 PM
I wish KT had more interesting IPs, because cross-overs are fun.  Would've liked it if the game was a cross-over between ALL their musou games so far.  So you get like Luffy, Exia Gundam, Fist of the North Star guy, Arlsan person + the people in this game.  I'm assuming at least the Nioh guy will join this game since that's their new IP.

That would probably be a licensing nightmare.

I would like to see a Jump Musou or a Dragonball Musou (that really seems like it would be a perfect fit) at some point...

Sure but it's Japan and they seem able to handle those licensing things.  Like with Super Robot Wars.  Would probably fuck up the US release.  But then we got Tatsunoko v Capcom so who knows?
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Musou Stars Announced!
Post by: archie4208 on September 15, 2016, 10:15:53 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GREzfETwRbA

Berserk comes out Feb 21 in murrica.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Musou Stars Announced!
Post by: bork on September 15, 2016, 12:14:29 PM
I wish KT had more interesting IPs, because cross-overs are fun.  Would've liked it if the game was a cross-over between ALL their musou games so far.  So you get like Luffy, Exia Gundam, Fist of the North Star guy, Arlsan person + the people in this game.  I'm assuming at least the Nioh guy will join this game since that's their new IP.

That would probably be a licensing nightmare.

I would like to see a Jump Musou or a Dragonball Musou (that really seems like it would be a perfect fit) at some point...

Sure but it's Japan and they seem able to handle those licensing things.  Like with Super Robot Wars.  Would probably fuck up the US release.  But then we got Tatsunoko v Capcom so who knows?

Yup.  And lemme clarify that last statement- We didn't get Tatsunoko Vs. Capcom.  We got Tatsunoko Vs. Capcom Ultimate All-Stars.  "OK, but so what?"  You might ask.  And the difference is that Ultimate All-Stars was missing a character that Capcom couldn't get a license to use outside Japan and had a ton of music removed.  So such a game might have to be changed up.

Also...would you really want this?  Like, if they changed the character design to make everyone animu~, I guess it could work.   :doge
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Musou Stars Announced!
Post by: Bebpo on September 29, 2016, 01:56:23 AM
Berserk Musou confirmed to only have 8 playable characters.  Sounds like One Piece Musou 1 or Fist of the North Star Musou 1.

Then again, to be fair outside of making bosses playable, there isn't a big roster of protag or support protag characters in Berserk.  There's the Band of the Hawk crew, the new rpg party of 5 or 6, zodd and skullknight and that's about it.  Couple of those are surprisingly missing (Skullknight, Isidrio), but well hope the game doesn't bomb so they at least make 1 more with the missing characters.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Musou Stars Announced!
Post by: Trent Dole on September 29, 2016, 03:10:14 AM
So it might be hot garbage then? Since the western release is a few months after the eastern I suppose we'll know if it's worth while or not by then. (and some of you will import and report your findings I'm sure.)
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Musou Stars Announced!
Post by: bork on September 29, 2016, 07:26:55 AM
If it's like the first Hokuto Musou, then it's gonna be good.  If it's like the first One Piece, then it's gonna be worth waiting for the sequel.  :doge

I'm not gonna import this straight-up.  Hell, I may not get it at all like how I passed on Attack On Titan.

Am way more interested in Musou Stars.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Musou Stars Announced!
Post by: MoxManiac on October 09, 2016, 01:06:22 PM
How is musou stars different from an Orochi game? Is it just an excuse to dump 90% of the roster?
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Musou Stars Announced!
Post by: bork on October 09, 2016, 03:53:40 PM
The story is different.  Why they've shown so few characters...who knows.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Musou Stars Announced!
Post by: bork on October 26, 2016, 02:39:34 PM
Now I'm feeling tempted to download Berserk Musou for Vita.  Footage looks good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xA1oUrmCBMw

HALP PLS
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Musou Stars Announced!
Post by: Trent Dole on October 26, 2016, 05:33:25 PM
When is that out over here, February? Don't have a Vita or PS4 so I'm stuck waiting for the Steam release.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Musou Stars Announced!
Post by: bork on October 26, 2016, 10:59:58 PM
Yeah next year sometime.

I'm taking one for the team and am downloading the Vita version now.  Hope it's better than Arslan.  I watched someone streaming the PS4 version briefly.  It looked like a typical musou and no better than a PS3 title.

I'd be wary of the game on Steam.  Koei doesn't do well with their PC games.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Musou Stars Announced!
Post by: Trent Dole on October 26, 2016, 11:58:43 PM
SW4-II has a more complicated control scheme than previous games and setting the prompts for a 360 pad on pc is a confusing nightmare. What the fuck is button 12 etc. There's a fan made patch that fixes this bullshit and I just use some of the KB controls as well, but yeah. KT really needs to get their heads out of their asses regarding several aspects of pc porting.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Musou Stars Announced!
Post by: bork on October 27, 2016, 07:39:52 AM
Heh, and SW4-II is supposed to be one of the better ports.

The only musou I have on PC is Dynasty Warriors 8XL.  It runs well and it's nice having such a great framerate...but it looks like PS3 and I've had some control issues with it.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Musou Stars Announced!
Post by: Trent Dole on October 27, 2016, 12:49:54 PM
SW4 uses the PS4 models but still has inexplicable slowdown here and there like XL does. :idont I'll probably get 8 Empires or a OP musou during the upcoming sale anyway. :-[
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Musou Stars Announced!
Post by: bork on October 31, 2016, 09:55:28 PM
Just realized I never talked about Berserk Musou.

It's not bad.  I'm not a big Berserk fan and I suspect if I were, I'd probably be bigger on it.  There's really not much to say here...it's a musou game.  Not crap like Arslan, but also not really awesome either.  It's a solid DW-style game with similar maps and objectives, and some fully-voiced anime cut scenes inbetween levels.  Not sure if these are from the recent anime or not.

Would say to get it if you like Berserk and musou, but don't expect to be blown away by it.  IMO the best licensed musou games are easily One Piece Pirate Warriors 2 and 3 and the first Fist Of The North Star game, followed by the Gundam games.  I'd probably slot this game in after those.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Musou Stars Announced!
Post by: Bebpo on October 31, 2016, 10:41:27 PM
Thanks for the impressions Bork.  Yeah I'm a big Berserk fan and I like good musou games, but all the rapey marketing was pretty off-putting and the gameplay videos had looked pretty bad.  Going to hold off and pick up the US release when it's on sale I think.  My favorite licensed musou games are Gundam Musou 1/3, OP2/3 & Hyrule Warriors.  Couldn't get into Hokuto and the Arsland demo was pretty dull.

I wonder if they'll do another Gundam Musou soon.  They had to stop around 3/Shin (shin didn't add much) because they pretty much ran out of stuff to use.  But there's been a ton of new Gundam stuff over the last few years, lots of new units.  Would be fun to have another GM.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Musou Stars Announced!
Post by: bork on October 31, 2016, 11:04:31 PM
Was referring to the anime-licensed games- sorry, should have been more specific,  Hyrule Warriors definitely kicked ass.

Worth waiting anyway since Koei is claiming that the western version will have more gore.  Not sure what else they're gonna add since there's already plenty of blood and body parts getting hacked up.

This game is thankfully not another Arslan, so I think you'll find it a solid effort, Bebpo, but nothing to rush out to buy unless something changes with more play time.

Will I get this again in English?  Dunno...really depends on if Musou Stars is out by then.  I suspect that will be much better than this game.

Anyway, next up is that Fate musou game coming out next week.  Like I did with Berserk, I think I'm gonna get it digitally and if I like it, I will see about getting the physical U.S. version on another platform.

I just realized I never said anything about the Sengoku Basara Sanada Yukimura-focused game that came out over the summer.  Nobody did though.  :lol 
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Musou Stars Announced!
Post by: Trent Dole on November 01, 2016, 03:52:48 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHJgE9Z3obs
Guessing it was ass. Ah well. I watched the original season of Berserk and dug it's retro super dark vibe so I'd probably dig the game. Rapey-marketing isn't really inappropriate considering the source material. :lol
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Musou Stars Announced!
Post by: bork on November 01, 2016, 07:25:20 AM
Guessing it was ass. Ah well.

Basara?  Naw, it's good.  The thing is, it's also very much just another version of Sengoku Basara 4, this time focusing on a select group of characters.  There have been changes made to them and new moves/abilities added, but otherwise it's basically SB4 expansion disc #2.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oBWJjqFqA10e.

If you don't have SB4 Sumeragi, get that instead.  If you played through that and want more, then check this game out.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Musou Stars Announced!
Post by: Himu on November 02, 2016, 12:18:40 AM
What's the best musou of the past few years

Is it zelda

How is Zelda warriors 3ds
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Musou Stars Announced!
Post by: bork on November 02, 2016, 08:17:46 AM
I'd go with:

-One Piece Pirate Warriors 3: All-around well-done game that follows the OP storyline up through the Doflamingo story.  The game came out before that finished, so it has its own original ending.  Play mechanics are solid.

-Samurai Warriors 4-II or Empires: You know what to expect here since you played SW4 as I recall.  Refined versions of that game.

-Hyrule Warriors: Also all-around well-done with some nice boss battles and some play mechanics from the Zelda games added in.  You get multiple subweapons to use in addition to your main weapons.  Has framerate issues compared to the PS4 games mentioned above, but nothing that stops it from being playable.

Also Dragon Quest Heroes II but you got that already.

Hyrule Warriors Legends on 3DS has some new content over the Wii U version.  If you're playing it on a New 3DS or New 3DS XL, it will run nicely given the platform, but it will have a lot more framerate issues on a regular 3DS.  Koei was supporting this pretty regularly and the last DLC pack just came out this past Monday.

The 3DS version got a number of new characters added.  Some are part of paid DLC packs.  There's Linkle (female Link), Toon Link, Tetra, King Daphnes, Skull Kid, Ravio, Yuga, Toon Zelda, Medli, and Marin, plus new weapons for various characters in these packs (that change their playstyles), in addition to new maps for the Adventure mode.  It's a pretty sizable amount of extra content, although you will have to pay extra to get it all.  You can pay extra on top of that to get these characters for use in the Wii U version, but I'm not sure if they get the Adventure Mode maps or not.  Note that all these DLC characters do not have storylines of their own -Except for Linkle in the 3DS version- and are for use in the other modes.  Adventure Mode is a big thing though and you can spend a shitload of hours playing that mode alone. 

I haven't touched the game on Wii U since it came out on 3DS.  There's also more DLC packs that are on the Wii U version, adding Epona, adult Midna, Tingle, Young Link, extra challenge modes, outfits, and more weapons into the game.  IIRC the Wii U DLC packs are already in the 3DS version.

The 3DS version also lets you play as multiple characters on maps, just like how Samurai Warriors Chronicles plays and adds faeries.  I forget what they do at the moment though, lol.  They also increased level caps, but this may be on Wii U as well.

I would not be surprised in the slightest if the Switch gets an updated version of this game with all the DLC added in.  Would bank on it, in fact.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Musou Stars Announced!
Post by: Bebpo on November 02, 2016, 01:08:54 PM
I forgot DQH2 came out.  So it's worth picking up?  I dropped the first game after about 6-10 hours.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Musou Stars Announced!
Post by: Bebpo on November 02, 2016, 03:41:42 PM
So Berserk Musou sold like total shit in Japan and every musou games has been selling dramatically fewer and fewer over there.  Unless the western sales are picking up some slack, I wonder if eventually musou is going to die as a genre.  Hyrule Warriors sells because Nintendo, so that'll keep them a float for a few more games, but I don't see anyway they can turn around the fact that people are tired of musou in Japan.  Maybe a musou reboot?  Completely refresh the franchise with a brand new concept for gameplay like how Sengoku Basara was a new concept of musou?
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Musou Stars Announced!
Post by: bork on November 02, 2016, 07:15:02 PM
I forgot DQH2 came out.  So it's worth picking up?  I dropped the first game after about 6-10 hours.

I dropped the first game, too. Too much tower defense for me.  Funnily enough I may pick it back up again if I find out that it can run decently enough on my new GPD WIN handheld PC, though. 

DQH2 is waaaaaaaaaaaay better than the original.  It's now more of an action RPG/musou hybrid.  Also has online co-op for up to 4P as well.  I actually have yet to even try that.  It takes place in a different set of dungeons from what I understand.  I put this game on hiatus a bit back and really need to get back to it. 

So Berserk Musou sold like total shit in Japan and every musou games has been selling dramatically fewer and fewer over there.  Unless the western sales are picking up some slack, I wonder if eventually musou is going to die as a genre.  Hyrule Warriors sells because Nintendo, so that'll keep them a float for a few more games, but I don't see anyway they can turn around the fact that people are tired of musou in Japan.  Maybe a musou reboot?  Completely refresh the franchise with a brand new concept for gameplay like how Sengoku Basara was a new concept of musou?

They haven't released a regular (non-licensed) musou game in a while.  Not counting that strategy game crap.  I bet a new Dynasty Warriors would do well.  Ditto for Musou Stars next year.

But certainly I hope that they try something new.  I'm hoping that's what is taking Dynasty Warriors 9 so long to be announced.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Musou Stars Announced!
Post by: bork on November 09, 2016, 10:19:16 PM
Fate/Extella is out in Japan.  Downloading now on both platforms.  Hope I like it a lot more than Berserk.  :p
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Musou Stars Announced!
Post by: bork on November 09, 2016, 11:42:28 PM
OK, so really quick Fate impressions:

-Looks like Type Moon is sole developer here. I thought that maybe Tamsoft or someone else might be involved, but didn't see any other logos.

-The game is pretty story-heavy and is told visual novel style, complete with different responses you can give. No idea what the hell is happening since I'm not all that familiar with Fate and am general just skipping through it. The cut scenes are both 2D and real-time.

-I love this game's aesthetic. It's bright and colorful with some unique-looking stages (For a musou game, anyway). The character models are pretty cartoony, but that fits in with the general Fate design.

-You can choose between a male or a female character, but this is just for the story; this character is the "Master" and you're playing as the servants in-game.

-The game play is typical musou style- You get two attacks, jump, dash, block, and super move buttons. You can also use different items (abilities?) with the d-pad and can also switch characters. I'm not sure if later levels will allow you to choose the partner, but on the first main level, I was playing as Nero (Saber) and had Archer as my partner. Didn't see anything come up that allowed for any kind of dual attack moves. Not sure if that's in this game or not. Don't remember it from previews.

-The PS4 version has a nice, generally smooth framerate that seems to be 60 FPS. Drops just a bit here and there, at least from the intro and first stages. There's TONS of enemies on-screen to beat up. More than a lot of other musou games, although most are all the same enemy model.

-The Vita version appears to be running at less than half the framerate of the PS4 version. I'd say maybe around 25 FPS? But before you decide to drop this version, it plays smoothly and seemed pretty stable from what I tried. I need to play more of this version though. There's also far, far less enemies on-screen and the resolution and effects are noticeably low-res. If you're only going to get one version, definitely get this on PS4, but the Vita version doesn't seem too bad- it's on par with say, Samurai Warriors 4 on Vita, but retains more details on the characters and levels. I'm not sure if it's PSTV compatible, but it would probably look pretty ugly on the big screen.

Should you import this? I'd definitely recommend holding off for the English release given the large amount of focus on the story.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Musou Stars Announced!
Post by: bork on November 16, 2016, 02:58:14 PM
Fate/Extella was the number one-selling game in Japan last week.  Good debut...hope this becomes a new series for Type-Moon.

I've been playing more of it and am loving the crazy fast-paced speed of the battles and general level design aesthetic.  Really nice use of colors on some levels.  Also more crazy gameplay stuff- You can fill up a meter that seems to have different effects depending on your character.  Archer just went into "hyper mode" and got stronger, but when I did this with Saber, she got a full-on cinematic transformation sequence, changed outfits, and got a set of flaming gauntlets.  She was then insanely-strong and I was able to rip through a stage boss that had been giving me problems in seconds.  :lol

You can craft armor that gives you enhanced abilities in battle, and set them to slots that are accessible with the d-pad.  The character-switching mechanic is one of these.  You can get health items, defensive items (summons another character to come out and assist) and more.  Then you can slot in power-up items that increase speed or add enhancements like flame or lightening effects, just like the Koei musou games.

I'm pretty impressed, especially since this is the first game of its type from Type-Moon.  My only complaints are typical with musou titles, I.E. not enough enemy variety (so far) and the difficulty could stand to be harder.  I tried playing on hard and didn't find the AI any more aggressive, but instead enemy boss types were just much stronger and required a shitload more hits to take down.  This was just the first level and it made it take forever to finish at level 1, so I switched to normal and had no trouble clearing it.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Musou Stars Announced!
Post by: bork on November 30, 2016, 08:38:21 AM
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Koei Tecmo’s Samurai Warriors: Sanada Maru opened at a total of 50,771 units across PlayStation 4, PS Vita, and PlayStation 3.
Read more at http://gematsu.com/2016/11/media-create-sales-112116-112716#9MLEWp0VuvSgPovS.99

[PS4] Samurai Warriors: Sanada Maru (Koei Tecmo, 11/24/16) – 26,682 (New)
[PSV] Samurai Warriors: Sanada Maru (Koei Tecmo, 11/24/16) – 13,049 (New)
[PS3] Samurai Warriors: Sanada Maru (Koei Tecmo, 11/24/16) – 11,040 (New)

Ouch.  That's pretty low.  I don't think that this means the musou bubble has burst, but rather that people are tired of Koei rehashing these games.  This is the fifth version of Samurai Warriors 4 already.

For comparison, Fate/Extella sold three times as many units -158,814 copies- on only two platforms when it came out a few weeks back.

[PSV] Fate/Extella: The Umbral Star (Marvelous, 11/10/16) – 73,019 (New)
[PS4] Fate/Extella: The Umbral Star (Marvelous, 11/10/16) – 67,356 (New)
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Musou Stars Announced!
Post by: bork on December 01, 2016, 12:04:19 PM
Musou Stars has furries.

http://gematsu.com/2016/12/musou-stars-details-mitsunari-ishida-wang-yuanji-horo-original-characters-tamaki-shiki-setsuna

 :brazilcry :noooo :stahp :oreilly
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Musou Stars Announced!
Post by: Rufus on December 01, 2016, 12:07:09 PM
Nyan~
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Musou Stars Announced!
Post by: bork on December 01, 2016, 01:11:23 PM
:stahp
:stahp
:stahp
:stahp
:stahp :stahp :stahp
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Musou Stars Announced!
Post by: Bebpo on December 01, 2016, 01:14:56 PM
So they were like:

"let's make a game of characters from all our games!"

"ok, but we should make a few original characters.  How do we differentiate them from our all-star cast?"

"How about if they were all furries living a furry world where these guest characters all came to save!"*


*I don't know if that's the actual plot but w/e furries  :yuck
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Musou Stars Announced!
Post by: Himu on December 01, 2016, 01:19:21 PM
Someone has a key necklace that says furry festival.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Musou Stars Announced!
Post by: Rufus on December 01, 2016, 02:07:01 PM
One of them looks like he could be related to Crystal.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Musou Stars Announced!
Post by: Trent Dole on December 01, 2016, 04:28:41 PM
Wow, and they aren't just ears and tails furries either. :yuck
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Musou Stars Announced!
Post by: bork on December 01, 2016, 10:59:16 PM
R.I.P. Musou 2000-2016.  :'(

spoiler (click to show/hide)
Hey, maybe they'll have cool play styles.  I'm still hyped for the game.  :doge
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Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Musou Stars Announced!
Post by: bork on December 02, 2016, 07:47:05 AM
Oh yeah- Did you guys see that it looks like Dragon Quest Heroes II is finally getting localized?  Best Buy put up a page with an April 2017 release date.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Musou Stars Announced!
Post by: bork on December 02, 2016, 01:44:44 PM
There's some crazy shit going on in this trailer!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3qyZY1FVbv4
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Musou Stars Announced!
Post by: archie4208 on December 02, 2016, 02:06:28 PM
I'm still plying Hyrule Warriors
spoiler (click to show/hide)
on the 3DS :-\
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I hope there is a HW2 on the Switch.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Musou Stars Announced!
Post by: bork on December 02, 2016, 02:07:20 PM
I keep wanting to play more of Hyrule Warriors on 3DS, but it's so hard after all the time I put into the Wii U version.  Thanks for not coming up with some kind of cross-save feature, Nintendo.  :-\

BTW, Dragon Quest Heroes II is the Hyrule Warriors KILLAH.  Rocks on both Vita and PS4.  And has cross save/play. 
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Musou Stars Announced!
Post by: bork on December 06, 2016, 02:38:41 PM
Maybe this explains the furry characters that got unveiled for Musou Stars.  :doge

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CzA-aLzXUAQlWbH.jpg)
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Musou Stars Announced!
Post by: a slime appears on December 10, 2016, 08:32:40 PM
Star Fox Musou would've turned out to be a better game than the hot garbage Platinum shit out.

BTW, Dragon Quest Heroes II is the Hyrule Warriors KILLAH.  Rocks on both Vita and PS4.  And has cross save/play.

What does DQH2 do better than the first one?
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Musou Stars Announced!
Post by: bork on December 10, 2016, 08:56:56 PM
The game is now more like an action RPG/musou hybrid instead of a tower defense game.  Also has online play for up to four players.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Musou Stars Announced!
Post by: bork on December 11, 2016, 09:24:30 PM
Back on Fate/Extella- Started Tamano No Mae's story.  The first stage took me a whopping 86 minutes to finish.
:dead

When you're playing the game, the way things generally work is that you beat the shit out of grunt enemies in the various zones you can go to on the map, which then leads to the stronger "general" style enemies (Called Aggresives) popping up.  Beat them and you clear the zone and get keys.  Get the maximum amount of keys needed and you clear the stage.  However, the enemy can get keys too, by invading your conquered territory and taking it back.  This happens when another enemy type, called "Brands," pop up.  Brands look like flying saucers and don't attack...they are more like support enemies that spew out this weird black smoke.  When Brands pop up in an enemy zone, they control where a potential invasion of another zone will take place.  You are shown on the map which zone is going to get invaded by a yellow line.  Destroy the Brand and the invasion stops.  Head to a zone in dispute and take it back to regain your potentially-lost keys.  Simple enough, right?

Now, I don't know if this is a coincidence, but this crazy-long level playtime happened to me last night after downloading an update.  Did it break shit or did I just get unlucky?  I did not have this problem on Nero's (Saber) first story.

So what happened is that I got stuck in a tug of war for control of a few zones.  I'd rush to a zone and start trying to clear it, then a Brand would appear in another zone on the far side of the map.  If I tried to conquer the current zone as quickly as possible, too much time was taken and the Brand would send an invasion force to another zone.  If I stopped what I was doing and rushed to the Brand's zone as quickly as possible, ANOTHER Brand would instantly pop up in a different zone and the cycle would repeat itself.  :dizzy

Eventually it got to the point that I had leveled up enough and gotten strong enough to take out enemies faster.  I was able to get things down to just two enemy zones left and used a power-up move to destroy one zone and just barely make it to the other one before the Brand got an invasion force out.  Crazy shit.  Levels should not take anywhere near this long to clear.  :lol
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Dynasty Warriors 9 Announced!
Post by: bork on December 17, 2016, 09:03:02 AM
Dynasty Warriors 9 was finally announced.  It will be "open-world".  This isn't the first time Koei has done this -Toukiden 2 and Sengoku Musou Sanada Maru have open-world elements- so I'm hoping this hat means this game will be very polished.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4eCJQEjYSZc

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cz4NiHoVQAAJLEl.jpg)
Quote

- Open world

- There will be towns in the vast fields that players can freely enter and exit, and the map will have considerable differences in elevation.

- All 83 characters that appeared in Dynasty Warriors 8 Empires will appear in the game

- No platforms announced yet (although Sony's Morita was there)

New character:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cz4OYG4UkAEQS7Q.jpg)

Zhou Cang
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Dynasty Warriors 9 Announced!
Post by: Bebpo on December 17, 2016, 10:58:46 AM
Lol

DW maps are already big and boring areas you run through to fight the next boss/mob.  This sounds like a really bad idea.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Dynasty Warriors 9 Announced!
Post by: MoxManiac on December 17, 2016, 03:11:53 PM
what the hell is this

(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/pcY9In7u6mI/maxresdefault.jpg)
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Dynasty Warriors 9 Announced!
Post by: bork on December 18, 2016, 08:55:10 AM
The turn-based strategy game.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BFcorgIj6lg
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Dynasty Warriors 9 Announced!
Post by: Bebpo on December 18, 2016, 11:36:14 AM
So instead of making Fire Emblem musou, they made musou Fire Emblem  ;)
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Dynasty Warriors 9 Announced!
Post by: bork on December 18, 2016, 08:20:51 PM
So instead of making Fire Emblem musou, they made musou Fire Emblem  ;)

Which I guess is only fair, since they started it first with Romance of the Three Kingdoms.  :doge
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Dynasty Warriors 9 Announced!
Post by: Trent Dole on December 19, 2016, 04:37:17 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Wz_UjmcLU8
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Dynasty Warriors 9 Announced!
Post by: Bebpo on December 19, 2016, 05:22:06 PM
Ok, now I'm tempted.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Dynasty Warriors 9 Announced!
Post by: Himu on December 19, 2016, 06:13:12 PM
Open world musou could really be good if it's anything like dqh2
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Dynasty Warriors 9 Announced!
Post by: bork on December 19, 2016, 09:51:35 PM
Open world musou could really be good if it's anything like dqh2

Heh, I didn't even think of this game like that, but yeah...it's kind of open world, too.  And it works great.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Dynasty Warriors 9 Announced!
Post by: Ichirou on December 22, 2016, 05:14:23 AM
I want Gundam Musou 4, and I'd like it not to suck - Shin Gundam Musou was pretty bad.

I don't mind if they start from scratch and make less units next time as long as they get visual facelifts.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Dynasty Warriors 9 Announced!
Post by: bork on December 22, 2016, 07:15:49 AM
I want Gundam Musou 4, and I'd like it not to suck - Shin Gundam Musou was pretty bad.

I don't mind if they start from scratch and make less units next time as long as they get visual facelifts.

I thought Shin was pretty good.

:idont

But I didn't play 2 and 3.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Dynasty Warriors 9 Announced!
Post by: bork on December 22, 2016, 07:27:05 AM
Killing bitches with POKER CHIPS?  This game is gonna be amazing.  :lol

(http://www.siliconera.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/31682700041_5792f3ecba_o.jpg)
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Dynasty Warriors 9 Announced!
Post by: Ichirou on December 22, 2016, 08:16:29 AM
I want Gundam Musou 4, and I'd like it not to suck - Shin Gundam Musou was pretty bad.

I don't mind if they start from scratch and make less units next time as long as they get visual facelifts.

I thought Shin was pretty good.

:idont

But I didn't play 2 and 3.

2 was bad. 3 was great but the stages were too small - Shin's stages are too large and empty, so they made the opposite mistake. It also just feels like a cash-in.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Dynasty Warriors 9 Announced!
Post by: VomKriege on December 22, 2016, 10:56:01 AM
I read that as "Goldseekers"  :doge
Deafeat all sugar daddies
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Dynasty Warriors 9 Announced!
Post by: bork on December 22, 2016, 02:38:35 PM
I read that as "Goldseekers"  :doge
Deafeat all sugar daddies

(http://www.siliconera.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/31651687202_c67b1bdddf_o.jpg)
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Dynasty Warriors 9 Announced!
Post by: Bebpo on December 22, 2016, 02:41:28 PM
I like that they're going silly and fun.  That's a nice change for musou.  I just wish they owned more interesting IPs because their character pull is limited at best.  They should do a Capcom x SNK or Capcom x Namco type musou crossover with another company so they get access to their characters. 
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Dynasty Warriors 9 Announced!
Post by: bork on December 22, 2016, 03:05:01 PM
I like that they're going silly and fun.  That's a nice change for musou.  I just wish they owned more interesting IPs because their character pull is limited at best.  They should do a Capcom x SNK or Capcom x Namco type musou crossover with another company so they get access to their characters.

They could really go nuts if they wanted to.  You've got characters from IPs like Mighty Bomb Jack, Monster Rancher, Rygar, Fatal Frame, Angel Eyes, Solomon's Key, and hell...even Gallop Racer on the Tecmo side for added wackiness, and then Koei has the likes of Gitaroo-Man, Winback, Crimson Sea, Mystic Heroes, Yanya Caballista, and more.  I wonder if they'll throw any of them in and or it will be more furries instead.  :doge
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Dynasty Warriors 9 Announced!
Post by: Mr. Gundam on December 22, 2016, 05:06:20 PM
If they put Gitaroo Man in Musou Stars I'd buy it.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Dynasty Warriors 9 Announced!
Post by: bork on December 23, 2016, 09:18:52 AM

The Musou Fever mechanic is also nice and nuts.  :)  I don't know if there's any movies of it yet, but it appears to turn the game into a "rave" and all the enemies' weapons glow red while yours glows blue.  Your other teammates then pop-up on the screen and cheer you on and provide commentary, then break the fourth wall and reach into the game screen to attack with you.  :lol
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Dynasty Warriors 9 Announced!
Post by: Trent Dole on December 23, 2016, 07:22:06 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hCiM9tAiIAI
 ??? :doge
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Dynasty Warriors 9 Announced!
Post by: MoxManiac on January 05, 2017, 04:11:08 PM
Godseekers looks fun. Digital only though :gloomy
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Dynasty Warriors 9 Announced!
Post by: bork on January 17, 2017, 12:14:49 AM
Fate/Extella is out in 'Murica tomorrow!

Looking forward to starting over in English and playing it again.  Really enjoyed my time with the import way more than I thought I would. 

Even with the Switch coming out on 3/3, I find myself the most-hyped for Musou Stars, which comes out on 3/2.  I kind of forgot about that when I pre-ordered the Switch and now I wonder if I should have held off, because Zelda is gonna take a backseat to the musou madness.  :doge
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Dynasty Warriors 9 Announced!
Post by: archie4208 on January 17, 2017, 09:24:40 AM
https://twitter.com/NintendoAmerica/status/821356411582038017

I'd bet Nintendo will give some FE Warriors info tomorrow.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Dynasty Warriors 9 Announced!
Post by: bork on January 19, 2017, 07:50:42 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/giG4kQT.jpg)
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Dynasty Warriors 9 Announced!
Post by: bork on January 19, 2017, 07:52:10 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UYnAE-Pv3Og

More characters announced!

(http://gematsu.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/Musou-Stars_01-19-17_001.jpg)(http://gematsu.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/Musou-Stars_01-19-17_002.jpg)
(http://gematsu.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/Musou-Stars_01-19-17_003.jpg)(http://gematsu.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/Musou-Stars_01-19-17_004.jpg)
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Post by: Bebpo on January 19, 2017, 04:42:32 PM
Cool.  This just keeps reminding me that Koei Tecmo has really uninteresting IPs, but I appreciate the diversity of characters.  If this was any other publisher's all-star cast musou I'd be day 1, but I might buy it when it's like $20 on a steam sale at some point and play for a few hours.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Dynasty Warriors 9 Announced!
Post by: The Legend of Sunblade on January 19, 2017, 06:19:12 PM
Yeah, i can't say Musou Stars is doing much for me. Doesn't help that it features characters from the series who i really don't care for rather than the ones I do.

I'll be there for DW9 though!
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Dynasty Warriors 9 Announced!
Post by: bork on January 19, 2017, 07:33:46 PM
:crazy

I'm all over this wacky fest.  Looks so much fun!
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Dynasty Warriors 9 Announced!
Post by: Trent Dole on January 20, 2017, 06:14:21 AM
Super stupid musou is best musou. :hyper
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Dynasty Warriors 9 Announced!
Post by: bork on January 24, 2017, 07:40:46 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J9GirXpATAc
 :aweshum

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5d_yifIBwI
 :sabu :obama :whoo
:bow Nobunyaga :bow2
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Dynasty Warriors 9 Announced!
Post by: Trent Dole on January 31, 2017, 03:33:19 AM
tfw delayed :gloomy
http://www.siliconera.com/2017/01/31/musou-stars-delayed-month-japan-march-30-2017/
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Dynasty Warriors 9 Announced!
Post by: bork on January 31, 2017, 07:09:33 AM
Fuuuuuuuck.

My guess is they just don't want to compete with all the Switch release stuff.  :doge
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Dynasty Warriors 9 Announced!
Post by: Trent Dole on January 31, 2017, 12:59:48 PM
I guess Zeruda would eat into sales some. Launches are never worth dealing with but there'll always be kids that ain't learned that yet buying into the hype.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Dynasty Warriors 9 Announced!
Post by: Trent Dole on February 18, 2017, 06:02:08 AM
Double posting like an asshole a boss. :doge
http://www.siliconera.com/2017/02/17/samurai-warriors-spirit-sanada-heads-west-may/
Think this was said to be kinda crap, surprised they're bringing it over. Yukimura's a lameo imo but if we can play as Kunoicihi a bit I guess I'll bite on sale down the line.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Dynasty Warriors 9 Announced!
Post by: bork on February 18, 2017, 11:05:57 AM
Double posting like an asshole a boss. :doge
http://www.siliconera.com/2017/02/17/samurai-warriors-spirit-sanada-heads-west-may/
Think this was said to be kinda crap, surprised they're bringing it over. Yukimura's a lameo imo but if we can play as Kunoicihi a bit I guess I'll bite on sale down the line.

What is surprising about this is that they are not localizing the Vita port.  It's not like they've dropped the Vita, either, since other multi-plat titles like Toukiden 2 and Berserk are getting Vita releases.  They seem to have swapped Vita with PC for this game.

No idea how this title is apart from it not having sold so well.  I didn't import it and I'm not sure how much I'm gonna care about it since Musou Stars is out at the end of March.  But maybe the 'open-world' stuff will make this game stand out a bit.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Dynasty Warriors 9 Announced!
Post by: bork on February 20, 2017, 09:22:56 AM
(http://gematsu.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/William-Nioh-Playable-Musou-Stars-600x338.jpg)
Quote
Musou Stars adds William from Nioh

Final playable character announced.


William Adams from Nioh is the final playable character in Musou Stars, Koei Tecmo announced during a Nioh live stream today.

The full playable lineup is as follows:

    Zhao Yun from Dynasty Warriors
    Ouka from Toukiden
    Sophie from Atelier Sophie: The Alchemist of the Mysterious Book
    Yukimura Sanada from Samurai Warriors
    Ryu Hayabusa from Ninja Gaiden
    Hajime Arima from Harukanaru Toki no Naka de
    Kasumi from Dead or Alive
    Millenia from Deception
    Plachta from Atelier Sophie: The Alchemist of the Mysterious Book
    Mitsunari Ishida from Samurai Warriors
    Wang Yuanji from Dynasty Warriors
    Horo from Toukiden
    Tamaki
    Shiki
    Setsuna
    Darius form Harukanaru Toki no Naka de
    Opoona from Opoona
    Marie Rose from Dead or Alive
    Honoka from Dead or Alive
    Rio from Rio
    Zhou Cang from Dynasty Warriors
    Lu Bu from Dynasty Warriors
    Naotora Ii from Samurai Warriors
    Nobunyaga Oda from Samurai Cats
    Laegrinna from Deception
    Tokitsugu from Toukiden
    Ayane from Ninja Gaiden
    Arnice from Nights of Azure
    Christophorus from Nights of Azure
    William Adams from Nioh

Musou Stars is due out for PlayStation 4 and PS Vita on March 30 in Japan.

Read more at http://gematsu.com/2017/02/musou-stars-adds-william-nioh#PYDAMXToHD0cs66y.99
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Dynasty Warriors 9 Announced!
Post by: MoxManiac on February 20, 2017, 10:02:02 AM
So how is Berserk?
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Musou Stars Announced!
Post by: bork on February 20, 2017, 10:26:44 AM
I never played it again after trying a few levels when it came out last year.  I'd pass on it, but I'm also not into Berserk. 

Just realized I never talked about Berserk Musou.

It's not bad.  I'm not a big Berserk fan and I suspect if I were, I'd probably be bigger on it.  There's really not much to say here...it's a musou game.  Not crap like Arslan, but also not really awesome either.  It's a solid DW-style game with similar maps and objectives, and some fully-voiced anime cut scenes inbetween levels.  Not sure if these are from the recent anime or not.

Would say to get it if you like Berserk and musou, but don't expect to be blown away by it.  IMO the best licensed musou games are easily One Piece Pirate Warriors 2 and 3 and the first Fist Of The North Star game, followed by the Gundam games.  I'd probably slot this game in after those.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Dynasty Warriors 9 Announced!
Post by: MoxManiac on February 20, 2017, 12:13:28 PM
Honestly, I just want a traditional as balls musou game right now. Berserk looks like a literal DW reskinned with blood. Is that accurate? If so, I'm interested.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Dynasty Warriors 9 Announced!
Post by: bork on February 20, 2017, 01:16:16 PM
Honestly, I just want a traditional as balls musou game right now. Berserk looks like a literal DW reskinned with blood. Is that accurate? If so, I'm interested.

Yeah, pretty much.

I'd take Type Moon's Fate/Extella over it, though.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Dynasty Warriors 9 Announced!
Post by: Bebpo on February 20, 2017, 04:58:42 PM
Nioh dude in Musou All Stars is good.  $20 someday here I come.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Dynasty Warriors 9 Announced!
Post by: Bebpo on February 21, 2017, 04:15:33 PM
Hmm, one of the early steam reviews for Berserk Musou says you can decap and cut people/monsters in half.  If I can verify that it's not censored like the JP version I'll grab it.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Dynasty Warriors 9 Announced!
Post by: bork on February 21, 2017, 08:54:01 PM
Hmm, one of the early steam reviews for Berserk Musou says you can decap and cut people/monsters in half.  If I can verify that it's not censored like the JP version I'll grab it.

:lol You want to wait for Musou Stars to drop to twenty bucks but would buy this at full price? 
:cmonson

This game is One Piece Pirate Warriors 1 and Arslan-level musou.  Don't get it unless it's on the cheap.  It's insanely average.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Dynasty Warriors 9 Announced!
Post by: Bebpo on February 21, 2017, 09:51:48 PM
Yeah, but I like Berserk and couldn't give a crap about Tecmo characters.

That being said I'll probably wait until Berserk hits $20 too ;)
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Dynasty Warriors 9 Announced!
Post by: The Legend of Sunblade on February 21, 2017, 09:58:42 PM
Character rosters are pretty important for musou games. Musou stars looks alright mechanically, but the playable roster puts me to sleep. with Lu Bu and Yuanji being the only two people I give a shit about. Couldn't even get characters from the actually popular Gust games rather than the Nights of Azure chick, Sophie and her teacher.  ???

Would rather go back and play Warriors Orochi 3 Ultimate, which I passed on when it came out.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Dynasty Warriors 9 Announced!
Post by: Bebpo on February 21, 2017, 10:05:04 PM
Character rosters are pretty important for musou games. Musou stars looks alright mechanically, but the playable roster puts me to sleep. with Lu Bu and Yuanji being the only two people I give a shit about. Couldn't even get characters from the actually popular Gust games rather than the Nights of Azure chick, Sophie and her teacher.  ???

Would rather go back and play Warriors Orochi 3 Ultimate, which I passed on when it came out.

Opoona and Cat Nobunaga tho

But otherwise I agree with you :)
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Dynasty Warriors 9 Announced!
Post by: bork on February 21, 2017, 10:23:38 PM
Character rosters are pretty important for musou games. Musou stars looks alright mechanically, but the playable roster puts me to sleep. with Lu Bu and Yuanji being the only two people I give a shit about. Couldn't even get characters from the actually popular Gust games rather than the Nights of Azure chick, Sophie and her teacher.  ???

Couldn't disagree more.  This is what we have:

Quote
Zhao Yun from Dynasty Warriors
Ouka from Toukiden
Sophie from Atelier Sophie: The Alchemist of the Mysterious Book
Yukimura Sanada from Samurai Warriors
Ryu Hayabusa from Ninja Gaiden
Hajime Arima from Harukanaru Toki no Naka de
Kasumi from Dead or Alive
Millenia from Deception
Plachta from Atelier Sophie: The Alchemist of the Mysterious Book
Mitsunari Ishida from Samurai Warriors
Wang Yuanji from Dynasty Warriors
Horo from Toukiden
Tamaki
Shiki
Setsuna
Darius form Harukanaru Toki no Naka de
Opoona from Opoona
Marie Rose from Dead or Alive
Honoka from Dead or Alive
Rio from Rio
Zhou Cang from Dynasty Warriors
Lu Bu from Dynasty Warriors
Naotora Ii from Samurai Warriors
Nobunyaga Oda from Samurai Cats
Laegrinna from Deception
Tokitsugu from Toukiden
Ayane from Ninja Gaiden
Arnice from Nights of Azure
Christophorus from Nights of Azure
William Adams from Nioh

That's pretty varied, if a bit waifu-heavy.  I like that they are going for more out-there characters and movesets.  There's already plenty of games with the same old characters in them.

They're clearly going for over-the-top crazy...and I like that.  A lot.  I haven't been this excited to try a new musou since, well...Warriors Orochi 3.

Would rather go back and play Warriors Orochi 3 Ultimate, which I passed on when it came out.

:dead

Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Dynasty Warriors 9 Announced!
Post by: bork on February 21, 2017, 10:31:59 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wGgPzt7RhZU
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Dynasty Warriors 9 Announced!
Post by: The Legend of Sunblade on February 21, 2017, 11:30:58 PM
It's not like I passed on it willingly.  :P I'd already played the vanilla version of PS3, and I think it was competing with another Musou I was interested in getting at the time, so I opted for the one I hadn't played over the one I'd already technically had.

I've never played Toukiden or DoA, so half the cast already doesn't really sell me on it, neither does Opoona, the Otomo game series or the furry OCs. It kinda comes across as a bit of a heavy handed attempt to sell their current games (with some choice fan picks) than anything, as evidenced by William just barely sneaking in hot on the heels of Nioh's release and Marie Rose/Honoka getting in over literally any other DoA vet. Not that that's a bad thing, it just doesn't make me chomp at the bit for the game.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Dynasty Warriors 9 Announced!
Post by: Trent Dole on February 22, 2017, 02:51:37 AM
I like Berserk. I like Musou. I'd like Berserk Musou. I'd maybe even buy it RIGHT NOW if Avid didn't need to be renewed in the next few days. :-[
Have some footage of the Jimquistion guy mucking about:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RD69bDveE0M
Looks like Berserk Musou alright.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Dynasty Warriors 9 Announced!
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on February 22, 2017, 09:05:09 AM
Warriors Orochi 3 Ultimate pretty much has another game added on to it.  You missed out, bryh
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Post by: archie4208 on February 22, 2017, 09:08:45 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wGgPzt7RhZU

Dat Ki pulse at 0:07.  :drool

edit: That isn't William's original VA.  I want my Irish accent husbando back.  :fbm
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Dynasty Warriors 9 Announced!
Post by: bork on February 22, 2017, 10:25:13 AM
Warriors Orochi 3 Ultimate pretty much has another game added on to it.  You missed out, bryh

:respect

Yeah.  They added a lot more to it.  It's still one of the top musou games.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wGgPzt7RhZU

Dat Ki pulse at 0:07.  :drool

edit: That isn't William's original VA.  I want my Irish accent husbando back.  :fbm

I know, right?  Wassupwiddat?  At least fake an accent.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Dynasty Warriors 9 Announced!
Post by: bork on February 22, 2017, 01:26:00 PM
Dragon Quest Heroes II is coming out for PC in North America on the same day as the PS4 version, 4/25.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Dynasty Warriors 9 Announced!
Post by: bork on February 24, 2017, 12:09:54 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dr96qJ2Avko

I...I like Oopona Marie Rose.  :-[
:uguu
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Dynasty Warriors 9 Announced!
Post by: MoxManiac on February 24, 2017, 02:23:02 PM
Wait isn't Zhou Cang the new guy shown for DW9? He's in musou stars too?
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Dynasty Warriors 9 Announced!
Post by: bork on February 24, 2017, 02:41:00 PM
Wait isn't Zhou Cang the new guy shown for DW9? He's in musou stars too?

Yeah, he's just sort of randomly in there with everyone else.  I think his and Mitsunari's spots should have gone to other characters.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Dynasty Warriors 9 Announced!
Post by: bork on March 14, 2017, 07:10:38 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5GqKpTjuxk0
:hyper
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Dynasty Warriors 9 Announced!
Post by: bork on March 27, 2017, 02:32:08 PM
Musou Stars is out this week.

Feels like it has been forever since I got a (good) Koei musou game, what with Arslan being shit, Attack On Titan getting a pass, and then Berserk being mediocre and forgettable.

So hoping that that this is a return to form.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Dynasty Warriors 9 Announced!
Post by: Bebpo on March 27, 2017, 02:50:46 PM
I would say good luck with that, but 2017's been a great year for breathing new live in old franchises, so maybe this will be the game for Koei.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Dynasty Warriors 9 Announced!
Post by: bork on March 27, 2017, 08:19:12 PM
I would say good luck with that, but 2017's been a great year for breathing new live in old franchises, so maybe this will be the game for Koei.

Eh, I've only been disappointed with two of the recent licensed games I played from them.  For all I know, Attack On Titan is awesome, but that's just not something I'm interested in. 

And they certainly struck gold with Dragon Quest Heroes II.  I just keep putting that game off as I wait to start it over on the right platform.  :lol
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Dynasty Warriors 9 Announced!
Post by: bork on March 27, 2017, 10:06:18 PM
But I would say that the past year or so has largely been disappointing- I'm not counting Valkyrie Drive since it's a 2015 game (and is good), and without that...I got:

Uppers
Sengoku Basara Sanada Yukimura-Den
Arslan
Berserk
Fate/Extella

Out of those, only Fate/Extella was really enjoyable.  Uppers could have been something awesome, but falters with shitty braindead enemies.  Sengoku Basara isn't bad, but is just sort of...there.  It's just like a big story mode expansion for Yukimura and a couple of others.  Arslan = crap and Berserk = eh.

Oh, I did also get Drive Girls on Vita, which I barely even touched.  It's another Senran Kagura style game with the gimmick being that the characters transform into cars.  It's...weird, lol.  It went pretty much ignored at release and I don't even recall seeing it on PSN for download.  Makes me wonder if it will be a rare game someday.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Dynasty Warriors 9 Announced!
Post by: bork on March 28, 2017, 10:03:52 AM
Koei focusing on important details for Musou Stars.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S2-alZVdZfE

 :obama
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Dynasty Warriors 9 Announced!
Post by: Trent Dole on March 29, 2017, 06:23:26 AM
Importing a bit of Team Ninja's tech I see.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Dynasty Warriors 9 Announced!
Post by: bork on March 29, 2017, 07:29:45 AM
Tomorrow! :hyper
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Dynasty Warriors 9 Announced!
Post by: bork on March 30, 2017, 10:33:51 AM
LET'S DO THIS
(http://i.imgur.com/7vst3H6.jpg)
MUSOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Dynasty Warriors 9 Announced!
Post by: bork on March 30, 2017, 12:49:41 PM
OMG, one of the option menus started playing an orchestrated version of the MIGHTY BOMB JACK theme.  I marked the hell out!  :lol
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Dynasty Warriors 9 Announced!
Post by: bork on March 30, 2017, 02:33:05 PM
The curse of Bebpo strikes- this game has framerate problems.  Some really, really bad ones.   :-\  Sucks, because otherwise it's awesome.  Import games letting me down lately.
:stahp
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Dynasty Warriors 9 Announced!
Post by: Bebpo on March 30, 2017, 02:59:49 PM
The curse of Bebpo strikes- this game has framerate problems.  Some really, really bad ones.   :-\  Sucks, because otherwise it's awesome.  Import games letting me down lately.
:stahp

Maybe just needs a patch.  Aren't their PS4 and especially PS4 Pro musou games fairly smooth?  I don't remember framerate issues in musou in a while.

If the game has a PC version, that should fix that.  Outside of framerate does the game seem any good?
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Dynasty Warriors 9 Announced!
Post by: Trent Dole on March 30, 2017, 03:55:04 PM
The curse of Bebpo strikes- this game has framerate problems.  Some really, really bad ones.   :-\  Sucks, because otherwise it's awesome.  Import games letting me down lately.
:stahp
Slowdown in a Musou game? Well I never!
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Dynasty Warriors 9 Announced!
Post by: bork on March 30, 2017, 06:31:31 PM
Maybe just needs a patch.  Aren't their PS4 and especially PS4 Pro musou games fairly smooth?  I don't remember framerate issues in musou in a while.

They've never been stable, but Pro has helped.  Just not with this game, which is kind of hilarious since this is the first PS4 (and not PS3) musou title.

If the game has a PC version, that should fix that.  Outside of framerate does the game seem any good?

Yeah, it will run better on PC if gets a port...and then be fucked up with everything else.  :lol  Always follow the golden rule and don't buy Koei musou games on PC.  ;)

Apart from the framerate problems...yeah, I'm digging what they're doing in terms of it being a musou all-star fest.

Slowdown in a Musou game? Well I never!

Not the normal framerate stuff you'd see.  I wouldn't complain about that- this game has levels where you feel like you're moving and fighting underwater.  It's really, really bad.  Haven't seen it that bad ever in fact.  Since it happens in the exact same places on both PS4 and Vita, I'm hoping that means it is something they can patch.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Dynasty Warriors 9 Announced!
Post by: bork on March 30, 2017, 11:03:45 PM
Seeing a lot of the same opinions on this game, I.E. that it's really fun but that framerate can really bring things down.

I just played for a while and had some fun after getting used to the technical issues.  You can do some insane damage since you can chain up to five members of your team together and attack as one (which first appeared in Warriors Orochi 3, but was restricted to a bonus mode), plus go nuts with fever mode. 

The game world also looks to be pretty massive.  There's already a bunch of missions available -and even 'hidden' ones that pop up when you move around the overworld- and I just noticed that this is all happening in just one section of a what appears to be a giant island or continent.  Am pretty sure that some of the stages are recycled from other games, which is kind of par for the course.  I played on the yellow turban rebellion stage from DW8 and it played an orchestrated version of a classic yellow turban DW thing.  There's some nice music here.

The game play is a little different than other musou games, especially compared to Warriors Orochi 3, which is is basically the successor to.  Gone are individual character skills/attributes and instead the game uses a card system to enhance abilities.  You cannot switch characters and instead can either summon your teammates to do attacks or call them out for a chain attack, which lasts for a little while.  When you do this, you switch to playing as the character you last chained with and doing a musou will do their attack as well.  There's no horses, but you run pretty fast so it doesn't really matter.

Also came across some enemy officers who do insane damage to YOU.  Not something you see often in musou games, apart from someone like Lu Bu (who has already popped up a few times and is all nasty).

I really hope they address the framerate issues.  Otherwise I wouldn't recommend that anyone buy this unless they are a hardcore musou fan.  If they fix things, this could turn out to be a real blast.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Dynasty Warriors 9 Announced!
Post by: Trent Dole on April 01, 2017, 03:16:34 AM
There's a mobile game that's out in Eng now.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Dynasty Warriors 9 Announced!
Post by: bork on April 01, 2017, 09:08:12 AM
There's a mobile game that's out in Eng now.

Was actually impressed by what I saw, and I usually avoid mobile games.  Dem graphix
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Dynasty Warriors 9 Announced!
Post by: bork on April 02, 2017, 10:58:51 PM
Maybe I'm going crazy here, but disabling boost mode on PS4 Pro seems to help with Musou Stars' performance!  Didn't feel like I was underwater when I tried that first Kasumi level.  Hmm...

First Pro game I've played where boost mode seems to be bad thing.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Dynasty Warriors 9 Announced!
Post by: bork on April 02, 2017, 11:25:11 PM
I think my new favorite character is Millennia from Kagero: Deception II.  All the trap-based attacks brought into a musou game are just fuckin' awesome.  Summoning guillotines mid-air and spikes, and even making pumpkins fall onto enemies' heads, disorienting them, is just too good.  I ran a train on the first level I tried her on, literally- her musou attack summons a locomotive that runs over people.  :lol  Gonna go for Laegrinna, from Deception IV, next.

I also got William from Nioh.  I like that he speaks entirely in English and there's even an option to make his dialogue subtitles display English, lol.

This game has little chance of getting localized, right?

 It seems it'd be trickier getting the rights than it was for Orochi.

Why do you say that?  Koei-Tecmo localizes all their own stuff.  There's no reason why this wouldn't get an English release.  I expect them to release it at least by E3, maybe after the latest Samurai Warriors game comes out here.
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Post by: bork on April 02, 2017, 11:44:35 PM
Why do you say that?  Koei-Tecmo localizes all their own stuff.  There's no reason why this wouldn't get an English release.  I expect them to release it at least by E3, maybe after the latest Samurai Warriors game comes out here.
I wasn't sure if it'd be harder since they're pulling characters from so many different IPs. Character rights can be a mess sometimes, with characters being partially owned and rights changing on international releases.

 Maybe it seems a bit weird considering Koei has been more forward with porting to NA, but I think that might be expected since it's targeted largely at JP audiences. I'm looking forward to playing this regardless at some point.

 ??? All of the IPs in this game are Koei-Tecmo IPs, dude!  :)  There won't be any problems.  There weren't any issues with the few guest characters in WO3, to my knowledge, either.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Dynasty Warriors 9 Announced!
Post by: Trent Dole on April 03, 2017, 09:46:03 PM
They brought all the Orochi stuff over, this is totally coming.

King Arthur Warriors incoming?
http://gematsu.com/2017/04/koei-tecmo-trademarks-seiken-musou-japan
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Dynasty Warriors 9 Announced!
Post by: bork on April 04, 2017, 07:24:06 AM
NOBUNYAGA >>>> NOBUNAGA

The little cat version of this dude is totally badass and way too damn good with his gun.  Really starting to enjoy the game now that performance is at least adequate (I.E. typical for musou) with boost mode off.  Also really enjoyed the stage based on Deception IV.  Rooms had traps and all that good stuff.  Fun level.  I also played on a stage taken right out of Toukiden, but there wasn't much going on in the way of monsters from that game. 
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Dynasty Warriors 9 Announced!
Post by: Trent Dole on April 07, 2017, 12:44:36 AM
http://gematsu.com/2017/04/koei-tecmo-trademarks-warriors-stars-europe
is habbeding
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Dynasty Warriors 9 Announced!
Post by: archie4208 on April 11, 2017, 09:23:43 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0JcvDCmHyvs
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Dynasty Warriors 9 Announced!
Post by: bork on April 11, 2017, 09:30:13 AM
8/29 for 'Murica.

The notable thing here is a PC port on Steam and no Vita version in English.  Hope the PC port is good, because that would mean no framerate issues.
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Post by: Trent Dole on April 11, 2017, 04:46:10 PM
PC day one means I don't have to buy a PS4 for this. :hyper
8/29 for 'Murica.

The notable thing here is a PC port on Steam and no Vita version in English.  Hope the PC port is good, because that would mean no framerate issues.
That's uh, a pretty iffy thing. :yeshrug
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Post by: bork on April 11, 2017, 08:43:58 PM
:confused
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Post by: Trent Dole on April 12, 2017, 03:50:21 AM
(omega force pc ports tend to be not very good)
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Dynasty Warriors 9 Announced!
Post by: bork on April 12, 2017, 07:27:16 AM
Ah, yeah, am well aware of that fact.  Koei games in general, really.  But they've done OK recently.  Fingers crossed!
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Dynasty Warriors 9 Announced!
Post by: MoxManiac on April 12, 2017, 07:04:10 PM
I get that "Warriors" has historically been the western term KOEI uses for musou games but goddamn if "Warriors All Stars" isn't the worst, most generic name for a game ever.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Dynasty Warriors 9 Announced!
Post by: Rufus on April 12, 2017, 07:15:02 PM
I get that "Warriors" has historically been the western term KOEI uses for musou games but goddamn if "Warriors All Stars" isn't the worst, most generic name for a game ever.
Horizon: Zero Dawn is up there. It doesn't even evoke anything.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Dynasty Warriors 9 Announced!
Post by: bork on April 12, 2017, 10:03:44 PM
Fate/Extella is coming to the Switch this summer.  I might end up buying it again.  :-[
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Dynasty Warriors 9 Announced!
Post by: Bebpo on April 25, 2017, 11:37:19 PM
Any reason to get DQH2 on PC over PS4?  Does it look/run better?  Guessing no.  I can probably pick up DQH2 on PS4 for <$30 used JPN copy these days, so probably should get that over steam $60 version.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Dynasty Warriors 9 Announced!
Post by: bork on April 26, 2017, 07:21:51 AM
Any reason to get DQH2 on PC over PS4?  Does it look/run better?  Guessing no.  I can probably pick up DQH2 on PS4 for <$30 used JPN copy these days, so probably should get that over steam $60 version.

I've been looking at early Steam reviews and while the game seems to run fine for most people, it doesn't look to be any better than it is on PS4.  Doesn't look like you can even downsample it.  But that could change.

I'm still holding off buying it and waiting for the English Switch port.  Although the game doesn't run as well on Switch, it has a few extras over the PS4/PC versions and I like having portable versions of these games.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Dynasty Warriors 9 Announced!
Post by: a slime appears on April 27, 2017, 09:26:39 AM
Yep, I'm in the same boat.

I'd like to have it on PS4 because I already own DQH for PS4 but the portability of the Switch is a huge bonus for me. Wish they would hurry up and announce a release date for the Switch version.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Dynasty Warriors 9 Announced!
Post by: bork on May 10, 2017, 12:05:52 PM
Finally, some real DW9 info:

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Dynasty Warriors 9

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Famitsu has gone up with its first online preview of Dynasty Warriors 9, providing the first direct-feed screenshots of the PlayStation 4 sequel.

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Dynasty Warriors 9 uses an open-world format. Players will experience Musou action in world of Three Kingdoms era China that stretches from one end of the land to the other.

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The game promises further evolved stages and action. The world of Three Kingdoms era China is represented by a single, vast map. Each area has its own climate and culture, making simply visiting its various places an enjoyable experience. Warlords will fight fierce battles in this open-world.

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The December 2016-announced Dynasty Warriors 9 is a PlayStation 4 title, the latest issue of Weekly Famitsu reveals.

The first open-world game in the Dynasty Warrior series, Dynasty Warriors 9 will of course feature actions that let players toss around large armies, as well as various other actions such as shooting at enemies from a distance and invading castles with a grappling hook. The mechanisms behind attack actions are being completely changed, and new characters and various “innovations” are also being added. One of the new warlords being added is Cheng Pu, whose weapon is a dual spear.

A release date for Dynasty Warriors 9 has yet to be announced.

Thanks, Famitsu.

Update 7:25 a.m.: New information has leaked from Weekly Famitsu.

The latest entry in the Dynasty Warriors series uses an open-world format. The continent of China of the Three Kingdoms period is represented by a single, vast map.

By making the game open-world, capture methods are also powered up. Since you can roam the map freely, you can even circumvent castles and attack from high places. There is also an extreme variety of attack methods that tests the power of the player’s conception. Can you infiltrate the castle without the enemy noticing and take out your target?

Long distance attacks using bows will return. Any character can use a bow to attack.

Time and weather change in real-time. The enemy’s field of vision is poor during the night or when it’s raining, making it harder to be discovered.

Here’s an overview of the game flow: among the missions that appear all over the map, there are also “main missions.” By clearing main missions, history will greatly advance forward, but these missions have a high degree of difficulty. By clearing missions associated with main missions, you can lower the degree of difficulty.

“State Combo” is a new system that lets players react in different ways depending on the situation. The combo starts with a trigger attack, follows up with a flow of consecutive attacks that change based on the state of the enemy, and ends with a strong finish attack.

“Interactive Actions” are actions that change depending on the surrounding terrain and objects. You can use grappling hooks to climb up high mountains and walls. Or you can unleash attacks that use certain things on the spot.

Development is currently 40 percent complete.

Thanks, Hachima Kikou.

Update 8:35 a.m.: Here are some tidbits from Weekly Famitsu’s interview with producer Akihiro Suzuki and director Jun Miyauchi.

    The main flow of the game will follow the history of the Records of the Three Kingdoms, just like previous games.
    Battles aren’t broken up into stages, but various battles that correspond to the era will occur all over the land, which you will participate in.
    For example, if we’re talking about the Yellow Turban Rebellion, you can fight with the Yellow Turbans in a place where Zhang Jiao can be found. If you go to the south-east, you can hear gossip of Zhang Jiao and company. When you defeat Zhang Jiao, history will progress to the Campaign Against Dong Zhuo era, and whatever is occurring on the map at that time will change completely to match the new period.
    Stories are being planned for each warlord, but since there are no branches that change history, the overall flow is the same.
    The era and period that each warlord plays a role in are different. If you start with Zhao Yun, you can play the period in which he was active, but if you choose Wang Yuanji, you’ll play in an era set after the life of Zhao Yun.
    The ability to switch between warlords is under consideration. Since the era changes so significantly depending on the characters you switch between, we would need to explain the background of the period. We’re currently looking for a solution.
    It takes about five minutes to swim across the Yangtze River and Yellow River, since it’s a wide place. There are also ports that you can move to instantly.
    Major cities such as Luoyang are smaller than they are in reality, but since one side is about one kilometer, it is an experience of considerable scale.
    There are more than 10 cities. General-purpose cities and villages are also being prepared.
    Movement is mainly by horse. Fast travel, which will allow you to instantly travel to places you have already visited, is also being prepared.
    Urban areas will have buying and selling elements.
    The warlords’ costumes are being updated. This time, we’re cutting back on the flashiness and aiming for something that more realistically matches that period.
    There are various missions such as hunting wild animals with a bow and battles against different races with dedicated visuals.
    Development seems to still have some way to go. I don’t think it will be released at least until it’s cold out.

Thanks, Hachima Kikou.

Read more at http://gematsu.com/2017/05/dynasty-warriors-9-ps4-title-adds-cheng-pu#KZdsbH3g36euWFWh.99
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Dynasty Warriors 9 Announced!
Post by: Trent Dole on May 11, 2017, 04:47:31 PM
http://www.koeitecmoamerica.com/dw9/
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Dynasty Warriors 9 Announced!
Post by: Bebpo on May 12, 2017, 07:58:13 PM
Bork, what are your thoughts on how DW9 sounds?  Seems similar to allstars, right?
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Post by: bork on May 13, 2017, 10:12:53 PM
Bork, what are your thoughts on how DW9 sounds?  Seems similar to allstars, right?

Cautiously-optimistic.  I'm not the biggest fan of open-world, but if they do it right...OK.  Also not thrilled by what sounds like "auto-combat", like it automatically propelling you into the air for combos and such.  But we'll see.

This is nothing like Musou All-Stars.  All-Stars is more like the current crop of games.  Pretty straight-forward and even less strategy-oriented in some ways, in fact.  If All-Stars were a DW or SW game with the regular cast, I probably wouldn't care about it or like it.  It's the cast that makes it fun.  I'm really hoping that the PC version coming out will have good framerates, because it really does still need a lot of work on PS4 and runs like shit on Vita.
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Post by: bork on May 14, 2017, 08:48:44 PM
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Dynasty Warriors 9 will have 4K resolution / 30 frames per second and 1080p resolution / 60 frames per second modes on PlayStation 4 Pro, director Atsushi Miyauchi revealed during an interview with Gamer.com.tw.

Here are a few more details from the interview (via Google Translate – Chinese is not our strong suit):

The PlayStation 4 version of Dynasty Warriors 8 was an improved port of the PlayStation 3 base version. But for Dynasty Warriors 9, the game is being developed for and tailored to PlayStation 4.

The game engine has been completely revamped and practically tailored to Dynasty Warriors 9. Some existing resources will be also used, but improved upon.

All 83 warlords that appeared up until Dynasty Warriors 8: Xtreme Legends will appear in Dynasty Warriors 9. New warlords such as Cheng Pu and Zhou Cang will also appear, but they’re not announcing the number of new warlords being added. That number, however, does include new female characters. (Update: There will be over 90 playable characters, according to a separate interview.)

There are no plans to include online multiplayer elements. (Update: They’re unable to implement local co-op as well.) This includes asynchronous online elements such as those featured in Nioh and Toukiden.


Read more at http://gematsu.com/2017/05/dynasty-warriors-9-4k-30-fps-1080p-60fps-modes-ps4-pro#B2E728lDybP1r19T.99

 :jawalrus
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Dynasty Warriors 9 Announced!
Post by: archie4208 on May 30, 2017, 07:40:27 AM
https://www.famitsu.com/news/201705/30134077.html

(http://i.imgur.com/kvtScGY.jpg)
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Switch killer app baby.  :lawd
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Dynasty Warriors 9 Announced!
Post by: bork on May 30, 2017, 12:26:12 PM
 :gladbron
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Dynasty Warriors 9 Announced!
Post by: archie4208 on May 30, 2017, 12:35:06 PM
http://gematsu.com/2017/05/fire-emblem-warriors-adds-twin-original-protagonists-marth-chrom

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The characters that appear are generally from Fire Emblem: Shadow Dragon and the Blade of Light and Fire Emblem Awakening, as well as Fire Emblem Fates. This won’t be a gathering of the protagonists from across the series.

No Ike, Hector or Epharim.  :fbm

I guess that's what the season pass is for, though.  :lol
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Dynasty Warriors 9 Announced!
Post by: archie4208 on June 01, 2017, 10:17:24 AM
http://nintendoeverything.com/fire-emblem-warriors-screenshots-and-art-anna-seems-to-be-making-an-appearance/

Looking good. 
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Post by: bork on June 01, 2017, 12:19:07 PM
Nice, I expect this to be good in case DW9 ends up flopping.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Dynasty Warriors 9 Announced!
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on June 03, 2017, 05:22:50 PM
This might actually sell me on a Switch if it's good
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Dynasty Warriors 9 Announced!
Post by: bork on June 22, 2017, 07:23:31 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lqkz6-O-DvU
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Dynasty Warriors 9 Announced!
Post by: Trent Dole on August 14, 2017, 07:59:15 AM
SOON, y'all. :hyper
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Liv6Hpm7bB8
Haven't been exited for an impending release of well, any game prior to this one for a while now. Cuphead is the next hype thing after this I think.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Dynasty Warriors 9 Announced!
Post by: bork on August 14, 2017, 03:40:56 PM
Guess you missed my impressions on the import-- the game is brought down by performance issues and is kind of "shallow" even for a musou.

Am really hoping that the PC version turns out well and runs at a good, steady framerate.
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Post by: archie4208 on August 14, 2017, 04:33:53 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L4mm80e5Nww
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Dynasty Warriors 9 Announced!
Post by: Trent Dole on August 14, 2017, 05:02:35 PM
Guess you missed my impressions on the import-- the game is brought down by performance issues and is kind of "shallow" even for a musou.

Am really hoping that the PC version turns out well and runs at a good, steady framerate.
Aw it kinds sucks huh. But I haven't rocked a mainlineish musou in a minute now. :-[
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Post by: bork on August 15, 2017, 10:12:01 AM
The last really good musou they released was Dragon Quest Heroes II.  I'd get that if you don't have it.  If you want something more traditional, Samurai Warriors 4-II or Empires or One Piece Pirate Warriors 3.  I don't know about that SW Sanada game.  It looks OK I guess?  And Marvelous' Fate/EXTELLA is good if you want a musou with a heavy visual novel-style story focus and waifu~.

All-Stars has flashes of brilliance (some of the characters are just super-fun to play as) and I'd be fine with the dumbed-down play mechanics (I.E. it being less strategy oriented and more beat-em-up like in some ways) if it didn't have performance issues.  It is almost unplayable on Vita at times (which isn't being localized) and playable on PS4, but with framerate issues up the wazoo.  PS4 Pro actually makes it worse with Pro mode on.

So I'm hoping that it's good on PC and/or maybe that they actually fix the localized PS4 version.  I just kind of doubt it.  Koei did a really good job of making me a lot less of a fan over the past year or so.  I'm not really feeling the open-world DW9 stuff right now, TBH.

But hey, Fire Emblem should be good.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Dynasty Warriors 9 Announced!
Post by: bork on August 15, 2017, 10:19:13 AM
IMO the best musous of the last few years are:

Warriors Orochi 3 Ultimate
SW4/II/Empires
Dynasty Warriors Gundam Reborn
One Piece Pirate Warriors 2
One Piece Pirate Warriors 3
Dragon Quest Heroes II
Hyrule Warriors
Sengoku Basara 4/Sumeragi (Capcom's Japanese-only musou-like.  If you get this...make sure it's Sumeragi on PS4 and NOT the Sanada Yukimura game, which feels like an expansion pack)

I wouldn't get anything else apart from Fate.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Dynasty Warriors 9 Announced!
Post by: Trent Dole on August 15, 2017, 03:51:33 PM
I have 4-II but ain't really delved into the licensed games much, oh and Estival Versus which I've barely delved into. I remember the one Basara that got localized on the Wii/PS3, that shit was amazing and it's a goddamn shame it sold too poorly for them to bring any other entries over.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Dynasty Warriors 9 Announced!
Post by: Himu on August 15, 2017, 04:30:41 PM
Any new updates on dw9?
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Dynasty Warriors 9 Announced!
Post by: Trent Dole on August 15, 2017, 05:28:58 PM
Most recent Gematsu post on it was the 10th and that's more recent than any discussion of the game in detail here.
http://gematsu.com/2017/08/dynasty-warriors-9-details-xun-xiahou-yuan-xiaoqiao-daqiao-zhang-fei-zhuge-liang-lu-lingqi-story
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Dynasty Warriors 9 Announced!
Post by: bork on August 15, 2017, 08:36:32 PM
I have 4-II but ain't really delved into the licensed games much, oh and Estival Versus which I've barely delved into. I remember the one Basara that got localized on the Wii/PS3, that shit was amazing and it's a goddamn shame it sold too poorly for them to bring any other entries over.

I don't count Senran Kagura as a musou.  It's a straight beat-em-up.  Estival Versus is good stuff...check out Valkyrie Drive too on PC.  It's better than the Vita version with a rock solid framerate and the game play is deeper than SK.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Dynasty Warriors 9 Announced!
Post by: Trent Dole on August 25, 2017, 11:22:52 PM
DW8: Empires, Samurai Warriors: Spirit of Sanada, And Warriors Orochi 3 Ultimate Headed To Switch
http://www.siliconera.com/2017/08/25/dw8-empires-samurai-warriors-spirit-sanada-warriors-orochi-3-ultimate-headed-switch/
November 9th in Japan. Maybe they'll dump them over to the states too. Only thing I've sort of played out of the three is standard WO3.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Dynasty Warriors 9 Announced!
Post by: Himu on August 25, 2017, 11:37:30 PM
Wtf is spirit of sanada

Put WO3 da GOAT on Steam and ps4.

Wait WO3U is on ps4?!?!?!

Omg
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Dynasty Warriors 9 Announced!
Post by: Trent Dole on August 26, 2017, 04:59:02 AM
Spirit of Sanada is an almost all Yukimura all the time game that goes through his entire life featuring multiple models of him as he ages or whatever. I didn't play it cause I think he's Zzz. Seconding whatever the Ult/final ver of WO3 is on steam, there was enough content added after the initial release I own that there's practically an entire second game in there.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Dynasty Warriors 9 Announced!
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on August 26, 2017, 06:46:34 AM
Warriors Orochi 3 Ultimate is the best Musou game out there.  Buy it, dorks.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Dynasty Warriors 9 Announced!
Post by: archie4208 on August 28, 2017, 05:52:12 PM
https://twitter.com/NintendoAmerica/status/902285893427499009
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Dynasty Warriors 9 Announced!
Post by: bork on August 28, 2017, 10:47:39 PM
Warriors All-Stars is out in the U.S. tomorrow.  Am waiting for the PC version to see if it has a good framerate and is a decent port.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Warriors All-Stars Actually GOOD on PC! :O
Post by: bork on August 29, 2017, 10:52:08 PM
Warriors All-Stars actually runs GREAT on PC and is staying at a smooth 60 FPS on my setup.  :o  Amazing.  Koei actually did a good PC port for once.

Avoid the console version; get this one!
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Warriors All-Stars Actually GOOD on PC! :O
Post by: bork on August 30, 2017, 07:19:20 AM
And continuing the trend of good news- Fire Emblem Warriors will run at 30 FPS at the default docked 1080P option...but you can also choose to lower the resolution to 720P and it will run at 60 FPS.
:itagaki
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Warriors All-Stars Actually GOOD on PC! :O
Post by: Trent Dole on September 01, 2017, 03:04:00 AM
Warriors All-Stars actually runs GREAT on PC and is staying at a smooth 60 FPS on my setup.  :o  Amazing.  Koei actually did a good PC port for once.

Avoid the console version; get this one!
Played a couple hours earlier, runs super great on my mid tier rig. :hyper
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Warriors All-Stars Actually GOOD on PC! :O
Post by: bork on September 01, 2017, 07:36:52 AM
It doesn't scale down well at all, unfortunately.  Crashed when I tried it on the GPD WIN and has a pretty bad framerate on the lowest settings at 640x400 (lol) on a Surface Pro 4.  But that's OK...as long as it runs well on a more capable setup!
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Warriors All-Stars Actually GOOD on PC! :O
Post by: Trent Dole on September 01, 2017, 01:46:54 PM
Hah, still better than most Musou ports. :-[
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Warriors All-Stars Actually GOOD on PC! :O
Post by: archie4208 on September 13, 2017, 07:18:45 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHHgwxD2mrs

Lyn :lawd
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Warriors All-Stars Actually GOOD on PC! :O
Post by: Trent Dole on September 20, 2017, 11:08:45 PM
Early 2018 worldwide :hyper
https://youtu.be/as1iB6SQJLM
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Switch Up To Fire Emblem!
Post by: bork on September 27, 2017, 04:02:31 PM
Fire Emblem is out in Japan and it runs so well on Switch!
:lawd
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Switch Up To Fire Emblem!
Post by: bork on September 30, 2017, 06:06:30 PM
SW Spirit Of Sanada for PS4 is $20 on Amazon.  Might grab it for that price.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Switch Up To Fire Emblem!
Post by: Bebpo on October 05, 2017, 02:21:25 PM
Fire Emblem is out in Japan and it runs so well on Switch!
:lawd

Gaf is pretty harsh on the game. But I think a lot of that is the roster picks.

As someone who hasn't played an FE game since Gamecube, and isn't going to remember/recognize any of the cast, how is this one as a musou game?
Fwiw I prefer shorter stages (like Gundam Musou 3), large movelists, good combo flexibility, loot systems and flashyness.
Things I don't care about in musou - AI, story
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Switch Up To Fire Emblem!
Post by: bork on October 05, 2017, 03:00:25 PM
Fire Emblem is out in Japan and it runs so well on Switch!
:lawd

Gaf is pretty harsh on the game. But I think a lot of that is the roster picks.

I read some people complaining that there's a number of clone characters, but even then the number of characters with unique movesets is higher than Hyrule Warriors, plus more are coming as DLC.

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As someone who hasn't played an FE game since Gamecube, and isn't going to remember/recognize any of the cast, how is this one as a musou game?
Fwiw I prefer shorter stages (like Gundam Musou 3), large movelists, good combo flexibility, loot systems and flashyness.
Things I don't care about in musou - AI, story

So I know pretty much nothing about Fire Emblem and am just approaching this as a musou game.  Story stuff is kind of light; I think the two main characters are original (?) and they escape their kingdom getting taken over or destroyed or whatever, and their mother being (presumably) killed and carry a family crest that gets jewels encrusted in it from...the spirits of the warriors they encounter...?  It's weird and I've kind of skipped that shit.  Maybe I'll check it when the American version is out.  What I do like is that dialogue sequences play during loading screens.  You can skip by them too if you'd like.

I haven't had as much time to play it as I'd like, but progressed several stages in and got to where the game play systems start opening up.  So far, the stages haven't been too long and have felt "just right" length wise.  Not too short, but not too long either.  You can get new weapons/armor/abilities and characters have some pretty flashy moves.  Combos are pretty good from the start but am not sure how expansive it will get.  Not seeing any mounts to ride, but some characters are already on horses and the movement speed is fast enough where it doesn't feel necessary.

There is some strategy that opens up after a couple of levels.  The game's strategy elements are similar to Samurai Warriors Chronicles 3 and Hyrule Warriors Legends, in that you can have a party of multiple playable characters and the AI will take over for characters you aren't controlling, and pausing the game brings up a map screen with little Fire Emblem-style 8-bit sprite versions of the characters that you can command to assist you, go to an area on the map, or go attack an area/enemy general.

I like what I have played a lot and this feels like a quality musou after a number of disappointments from Koei.  This is 100 times better than Arlsan and 10 times better than Berserk.
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Post by: Bebpo on October 05, 2017, 03:21:37 PM
Oh yeah, I really like the meta strategy stuff in the stages in good musou games. Keeps it exciting and always something you’re rushing at.
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Post by: bork on October 10, 2017, 01:42:23 PM
Something I did not know- this game has two framerate settings- one lowers visual quality/resolution in favor of 60 FPS (!!!!), the other is the standard setting at 30 FPS.
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Post by: bork on October 11, 2017, 07:56:32 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xICxmB1wGng
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Post by: archie4208 on October 17, 2017, 11:24:21 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n16aNy1O65Y&feature=youtu.be

Three days.  :rock
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Post by: bork on October 17, 2017, 10:31:31 PM
Can't wait...it's great! :drool
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Post by: archie4208 on October 18, 2017, 12:31:17 PM
73 on Metacritic.  Take away the musou penalty and that's like a 93.  :drool
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Post by: Jenkem on October 18, 2017, 07:17:18 PM
I like good musou games but hate the focus on nu-fire emblem waifu bullshit casual ass fuckery, is it good if you aren't a post awakenings newcomer fanboy scum?
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Post by: bork on October 18, 2017, 08:32:39 PM
73 on Metacritic.  Take away the musou penalty and that's like a 93.  :drool
:heyman

I like good musou games but hate the focus on nu-fire emblem waifu bullshit casual ass fuckery, is it good if you aren't a post awakenings newcomer fanboy scum?

I don't know squat about Fire Emblem.  It's just a good musou game.  Taking a lot for me not to play the J-version right now.
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Post by: archie4208 on October 18, 2017, 08:35:21 PM
My waifu Camilla made the cut and that's all that matters. 
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Post by: archie4208 on October 19, 2017, 05:10:35 PM
Season pass characters revealed

http://nintendoeverything.com/fire-emblem-warriors-dlc-characters-revealed-azura-tharja-more/

No Epharim, Roy or Ike.  :fbm
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Post by: Jenkem on October 19, 2017, 05:49:19 PM
Season pass characters revealed

http://nintendoeverything.com/fire-emblem-warriors-dlc-characters-revealed-azura-tharja-more/

No Epharim, Roy or Ike.  :fbm

meh... the season pass is shit... for a game that's supposed to be "a celebration of the fire emblem series" not sure why they focus only on latest shit (+shadow dragon scraps) for the DLC as well... also the apologists are out in full force with "just wait for the sequel for classic characters" after shifting from "just wait for more reveals for classic characters" and "just wait for the dlc for classic characters"

I'm still buying it because I want a musou and from that perspective it looks great, but its use of the FE franchise outside of the mechanics is trash. Doubt I'll get the season pass at all given the characters listed here.

edit: and some of those people in the DLC packs are actually already in the game as NPCS?  :lol
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Post by: archie4208 on October 20, 2017, 08:57:12 AM
Unless I'm missing something, handheld mode is locked at 30 FPS which is disappointing as I loved playing Hyrule Warriors 3DS in bed.  :fbm

Otherwise it's a warriors game with a Fire Emblem skin which means I like it.
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Post by: demi on October 20, 2017, 09:00:02 AM
Better or worse than Hyrule Warriors or Dragon Quest?

I enjoyed Hyrule Warriors (of what I played) and enjoyed Dragon Quest Heroes a bunch (finished that game). Dragon Quest did a very good job of not making it "feel" like a Musou game.
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Post by: archie4208 on October 20, 2017, 09:09:19 AM
I've only played ~an hour but it's much closer to HW than DQH.  The gameplay in FEW is your typical musou with Fire Emblem mechanics (most notably weapon triangle and pair up/support).  It doesn't have that slower, more weighty, feel that DQH has.  The AI is much better in FEW compared to HW though, and you can send them off to capture bases easily, assuming they have an advantage in the weapon triangle.  I'm still in the main story of FEW so I haven't got a chance to do its equivalent of Adventure Mode, where I spent like 80% of my time in HW.

To say if its better or worse really depends on how much you like the franchise.  I got over 100 hours between both versions of HW, whereas I only played about 20 hours of DQH as I'm not as much of a fan of that series.  I assume my FEW playtime will wind up being between those two games.
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Post by: bork on October 20, 2017, 09:12:12 AM
It's very much the "sequel" to Hyrule Warriors and has some of the same strategy stuff that Hyrule Legends on 3DS does. 

Unless I'm missing something, handheld mode is locked at 30 FPS which is disappointing as I loved playing Hyrule Warriors 3DS in bed.  :fbm

Otherwise it's a warriors game with a Fire Emblem skin which means I like it.

Yeah, appears to be locked when not docked.  Which is OK, because on the smaller screen and it looks and runs great at 30 FPS.  I never played the J-version undocked so I had no idea that the performance mode was a docked-only option.

There's a Japanese voice pack up on the eShop, BTW.  I think it's about 2.5 GB.
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Post by: Jenkem on October 20, 2017, 06:56:32 PM
Better or worse than Hyrule Warriors or Dragon Quest?

I enjoyed Hyrule Warriors (of what I played) and enjoyed Dragon Quest Heroes a bunch (finished that game). Dragon Quest did a very good job of not making it "feel" like a Musou game.

because it's not.. it's a tower defense game with hack and slash
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Post by: archie4208 on October 21, 2017, 07:04:13 AM
I played FEW like 5 hours yesterday.  Good shit.

Better or worse than Hyrule Warriors or Dragon Quest?

I enjoyed Hyrule Warriors (of what I played) and enjoyed Dragon Quest Heroes a bunch (finished that game). Dragon Quest did a very good job of not making it "feel" like a Musou game.

because it's not.. it's a tower defense game with hack and slash

DQH 2 is much closer to a typical musou than the prequel.
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Post by: MoxManiac on October 21, 2017, 07:35:17 PM
Is the 3DS version servicable? I want to play this but I can't see myself getting a switch any time soon.
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Post by: archie4208 on October 21, 2017, 08:08:05 PM
I haven't played it, but it's New 3DS exclusive, and just looking at videos it looks really, really bad.

I'd honestly wait until you can get a Switch because it's amazing on that system. 
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Post by: demi on October 22, 2017, 01:20:52 AM
Better or worse than Hyrule Warriors or Dragon Quest?

I enjoyed Hyrule Warriors (of what I played) and enjoyed Dragon Quest Heroes a bunch (finished that game). Dragon Quest did a very good job of not making it "feel" like a Musou game.

because it's not.. it's a tower defense game with hack and slash

There were hardly any levels that felt like Tower Defense. It was a non-issue.
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Post by: Cerveza mas fina on October 22, 2017, 01:27:15 AM
i never played a game like this before

is this button masher fighter with tons of enemies?
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Post by: demi on October 22, 2017, 01:27:58 AM
Yup, more or less. You run around big maps to do goals, while just beating up tons of enemies, using your "super move" and eventually having to beat a boss character.
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Post by: Jenkem on October 22, 2017, 06:29:26 AM
I got FE Warriors despite my misgivings of the cast and I am loving it.. It was a little confusing at first because of being able to send units to places, but once I got the hang of it, it's fucking great... they've also taken that into account with how the maps are designed and often have multiple things going on right at the start.. playing on hard and it's still pretty easy if you are dilligent in sending troops or anticipating where they will be needed, and adhering to the weapon triangle... I put it on casual mode because it's a musou and why would I want permadeath, but I don't think I've had anyone die yet and I'm on chapter 9... just want to finish this shit to get to the history/mission mode and waste the hours away!
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Post by: archie4208 on October 22, 2017, 02:59:00 PM
I finished the first history map and harder battles showed up afterwards.  :omg

History mode is so much better than adventure mode in Hyrule Warriors.  There's less content overall, but I'll trade that for no "grind a shitty map to get an item to get to the next part".
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Post by: Kiryu on October 22, 2017, 07:22:05 PM
So how do the Strong Attack weapon skills work? Strong Attack IV says "Increases Strong Attack IV damage". Does that mean Y,Y,Y,X does more damage?
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Post by: Jenkem on October 24, 2017, 01:00:38 AM
So how do the Strong Attack weapon skills work? Strong Attack IV says "Increases Strong Attack IV damage". Does that mean Y,Y,Y,X does more damage?

yes

I just beat the story mode on hard and it was great, now to move on to the actual game in the history mode maps!
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Post by: pancakesandsex on October 24, 2017, 11:55:48 AM
Is the 3DS version servicable? I want to play this but I can't see myself getting a switch any time soon.

Anyone else taking a chance on the 3ds version of FE warriors?  I'm taking the plunge.  I guess I'll post some impressions when it makes it in.  Zelda didn't turn out too bad on the system.
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Post by: bork on October 24, 2017, 10:16:36 PM
Post impressions...am curious how it runs.
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Post by: Para-Medic on October 24, 2017, 11:55:32 PM
Tharja isn't in Warriors so I can't support it yet. DLC hopefully. (Not that I have a Switch yet, but hopefully sooner rather than later.)

Did anybody like Fate/Extella when that came out? It's already getting a sequel since it did so well stateside and in Japan. It had some interesting mechanics for a musou, like how power enemies could spawn randomly around the map even in already conquered zones...
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Post by: archie4208 on October 25, 2017, 09:25:32 AM
So who are your favorite FEW characters?  My top 3 are Robin, Rowan and Camilla.  I hear Lyn and Anna have awesome movesets, but I haven't unlocked them yet.  I'd like Tiki more if she didn't feel so freaking weak.
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Post by: bork on October 25, 2017, 11:52:46 AM
Tharja isn't in Warriors so I can't support it yet. DLC hopefully. (Not that I have a Switch yet, but hopefully sooner rather than later.)

She will be in the second set of DLC, IIRC.

Did anybody like Fate/Extella when that came out? It's already getting a sequel since it did so well stateside and in Japan. It had some interesting mechanics for a musou, like how power enemies could spawn randomly around the map even in already conquered zones...

Yup; enjoyed it quite a bit overall, although the story dragged on way too much.  Looking forward to the sequel.
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Post by: pancakesandsex on October 25, 2017, 03:10:30 PM
Post impressions...am curious how it runs.

Will do.  I'm expecting it to go a little smoother than zelda if only because it's N3DS only.
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Post by: archie4208 on October 25, 2017, 09:06:27 PM
Has FEW crashed frequently for anyone else?  I'm like ~20 hours I've had 4 crashes, one of which was when I was doing the final story chapter on lunatic.   :maf
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Post by: Jenkem on October 25, 2017, 09:13:05 PM
Has FEW crashed frequently for anyone else?  I'm like ~20 hours I've had 4 crashes, one of which was when I was doing the final story chapter on lunatic.   :maf

are you using performance mode? I've heard there are crashes using that mode with lots of effects and scrubz gettin owned on screen
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Post by: Para-Medic on October 26, 2017, 12:00:56 AM
Tharja isn't in Warriors so I can't support it yet. DLC hopefully. (Not that I have a Switch yet, but hopefully sooner rather than later.)

She will be in the second set of DLC, IIRC.

Did anybody like Fate/Extella when that came out? It's already getting a sequel since it did so well stateside and in Japan. It had some interesting mechanics for a musou, like how power enemies could spawn randomly around the map even in already conquered zones...

Yup; enjoyed it quite a bit overall, although the story dragged on way too much.  Looking forward to the sequel.

Hohoho, well if Tharja is confirmed DLC than once I get a Switch I have to get FEW.  :teehee

I actually thought Fate/Extella's story was kinda small compared to Fate/Extra. It certainly drags because it's the same story told from 3 different perspectives, but eh, maybe people aren't used to wordy stories in Musou games.  :lol

I'd be happy if they just make the sequel a little less grindy. Took me like a month+ to platinum it, and some stages could take an hour+ because of having to recapture zones from the constantly spawning Plants.
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Post by: bork on October 26, 2017, 08:09:18 AM
Extella to me was like 50% visual novel and 50% game play.  And yeah, it was having the same story basically three times that got old quick.  Plus too much waifu shit, even for me.

The constant enemy respawns could get ridiculous.  There were a few sessions where one level took me like two hours to complete because the enemies kept coming back and reclaiming zones before I could get back to them fast enough, lol.

I still need to go back and play some of the other side story characters' levels, but dunno if that will ever happen at this point.

Hopefully the sequel has more playable character variety in the main story and has more varied enemy types.
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Post by: Para-Medic on October 26, 2017, 12:04:33 PM
I agree on every front. Even the Waifu stuff. Just kinda started skipping past a lot of the mushy scenes, and I love waifu shit normally. :lol

I guess the sequel has a proper name, http://typemoon.wikia.com/wiki/Fate/Extella_Link And it looks like the only new character so far is Charlemagne. Hope they got some more up their sleeve. Would love to see some more Fate/Apochrypha characters.
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Post by: pancakesandsex on October 27, 2017, 11:02:44 PM
FE Warriors arrived.  It has permadeath mode?  Hahaha that's amazing.

Initial impression from tutorial mission is that it runs great, it's a solid 30, with slight drops if it gets too crazy.  Models are terrible, it's definitely not a looker, but it sure plays A-OK.

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Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on October 28, 2017, 01:53:54 AM
Played about five hours of FE Warriors.  It's a great game.  I was listening to The Cruncheons and other podcasts so I didn't listen to the voice acting or the soundtrack.  It's probably better that way.
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Post by: archie4208 on October 28, 2017, 07:25:40 AM
The VA isn't bad, but it isn't memorable.  Darios is the only one that stands out as being very good.  It's a shame too because I thought FE Echoes had some of the best VA for any game this year.

FE Warriors arrived.  It has permadeath mode?  Hahaha that's amazing.

Initial impression from tutorial mission is that it runs great, it's a solid 30, with slight drops if it gets too crazy.  Models are terrible, it's definitely not a looker, but it sure plays A-OK.
In classic mode you have to pay to revive a dead unit.  I haven't actually had any units die so I don't know how much it costs.

Also there is an option to toggle performance mode to get 60 FPS at the cost of a lower resolution.  It's a worthwhile tradeoff in my opinion.
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Post by: pancakesandsex on October 28, 2017, 10:49:39 AM
One thing that bugs me is it seems there's no way to turn on life bars for the standard mooks?
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Post by: Jenkem on October 28, 2017, 07:59:56 PM
One thing that bugs me is it seems there's no way to turn on life bars for the standard mooks?

 ???

why would you want this?
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Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on October 28, 2017, 10:12:44 PM
Finished chapter 12 and cleared all chapters at all difficulty levels up to 12.  About 13 hours in.

+ The most competent team AI I've seen in a Musou game.  A frequent issue is that your generals or other characters can have a tendency to stand around with a thumb up their ass while a few seconds away the enemy is about to take your fort.  This is not the case with this game.  In addition to that...
+ The team AI actually deals damage to the enemy.  Another issue with many past Musou games is that you have some beast of a character just poking once in a while at an enemy.  With this game, I can send them over to a fort and within a couple minutes they'll likely have it taken down.  Not to say it is perfect and it happens that way every time because it definitely doesn't.  However this was impressive to me as someone who has played these games since Dynasty Warriors 3 on Xbox.
+ I did eventually turn up the volume to hear the music and VA.  The Musou buttrock I love with competent VA.  Not bad.
+ The game will let you keep experience that you gain if you lose and decide to quit.
+ I'm glad you can skip cutscenes.  I do it every time :bobby

~ If the map is manic enough, it can be difficult sometimes to see certain objectives.  Most of the time it is ok but sometimes it is hard to see without having to pause.  They could have shrunk down some of the generic soldier icons or let you customize it.  A nitpick for sure.
~ If you're forging a weapon, you shouldn't just be limited to one attribute that can be forged to the other.

- Maps are pretty bland looking.  Reminded me a lot of the first Gundam Musou game, which reminded me a lot of the PS2 era Musou games.
- Dumb waifu dialogue.  I guess this is modern Fire Emblem so I don't know what I was expecting.

Great Musou game.  I'm a little over halfway done and already bought the season pass.  Looking forward to playing through the rest of it.
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Post by: Rise on October 28, 2017, 11:08:26 PM
Got FE for $40 with ebay coupon. Hope it can get me back into Musou, the over-saturation of mediocrity has made me stay away for the past almost 2 years :(

Ever since that horrible Arselan game they've slid downhill in quality  :yuck I liked SW4E a lot but that was still just an expansion from an old game.
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Post by: bork on October 29, 2017, 02:44:41 AM
Fire Emblem is a return to greatness for them.  I'm looking forward to getting back to it, but for now..MARIO.

Arslan was total garbage...I was incredibly disappointed by it, because when I watched the anime, I kept thinking "holy shit!  This is like a Dynasty Warriors-style anime!" and then when they announced a game, I figured it would be perfect.  And they ruined it.  :-\  How you can fuck up your umpteenth musou game is beyond me, but they succeeded.  And then Berserk was just another snoozer.  Better than Arslan, but so mediocre.

Dunno what happened, but it was like things were going well up until Dragon Quest Heroes 2 came out.  Pretty much everything that followed up until this was either mediocre or crap from what I played.  I did skip the Attack On Titan game, so maybe that was good, but I just didn't care.   

Then there was Warriors All-Stars.  Looking at it as a beat-em-up, it's not bad and has some really fun characters.  The problem is that it feels rushed, is lacking in the roster department, and has little in the way of strategy.  I think it's still a good game, but it's so much worse compared to Warriors Orochi 3 and runs like dogshit on consoles.  However, if you have a good PC setup, it runs great and I'd recommend getting it on that platform.

But I'd get Fire Emblem over that as well.

If you do want something else that's awesome, check out Capcom's Sengoku Basara 4 Sumeragi on PS4.  It's the base game and the expansion together and it's another excellent game, although it's only in Japanese.  Avoid Sengoku Basara Sanada Yukimura-Den, which came out afterwards.  Like Koei's Spirit Of Sanada, this focuses on Sanada and crew and has only a few playable characters in the story, and just felt like DLC that could have been sold for SB4 for $20.
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Post by: Rise on October 29, 2017, 03:01:25 AM
All-Stars looked decent, but it seems like such a huge step back from WO3U. Don't know why they just didn't build off of that and add the new Koei characters in. Didn't really wanna drop $60 on it.

Berserk was....  :doge I kinda lost faith after they managed to fuck up a Berserk Musou (and I don't even like Berserk, it just seemed like one of those things that would be easy to adapt to Musou), but FE's reception gives me hope. DW9 looks interesting but I really hope the PC port is good cause the PS4 framerate looks godawful.
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Post by: bork on October 29, 2017, 03:10:37 AM
I'm not really that hyped for DW9.  Hope it's good, but am not thrilled with what I've seen...I don't think I like the open-world aspect of it.
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Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on October 29, 2017, 08:42:54 AM
I haven't been impressed with a mainline Dynasty Warriors game since Dynasty Warriors 5.  7 was a pretty nice reboot but the mainline series hasn't been good for a while.
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Post by: pancakesandsex on October 29, 2017, 03:22:26 PM
I haven't been impressed with a mainline Dynasty Warriors game since Dynasty Warriors 5.  7 was a pretty nice reboot but the mainline series hasn't been good for a while.

I'm sorta with you on that.  8 was a better version of 7 all around, but still lacks the meta layer that made 5 great.  I really think they've lost the plot a little in terms of what made the series great on ps2.  DW5, SW2, and Warriors Orochi 1-2 (and from what I understand 3) were the last ones that felt "right".  Maybe they have shuffled some of that off to empires for the most part, to keep the mainlines more story focused to appease modern experience gamers and western press which never liked the games anyway?  I've got a backlog of SW4-42-Empires and DW8 empires to try still.
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Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on October 29, 2017, 09:50:50 PM
For FE Warriors, I beat the mainline game on the first three difficulty levels.  Finished at a little over 19 hours.

I am going through Lunatic mode and getting the next set of scrolls (or whatever they are called) from Anna.  I won't be grinding to max out everyone's skill trees.  Not going to farm for hours to get enough dragon claws (or whatever).

I think this is a really good Musou game.  I still like Warriors Orochi 3 Ultimate better but this one is up there.

Edit: One chapter I really disliked was the...

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...chapter with Xander and Ryoma where you had to make sure their bases were taken down at around the same time as each other.  This was manageable and easy with the first two difficulties but it seemed way too arbitrary on the hard difficulty.  I could do everything right and then one of them would die.  It was a pure chance of luck that I was able to clear that stage.  I had to replay it a few times which gets frustrating after a couple of times.
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Post by: Himu on October 29, 2017, 10:00:54 PM
DW9 looks bleh. I might just get Warriors Orochi 3 Ultimate and replay that. :doge
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Post by: FatRiker on October 29, 2017, 10:06:35 PM
One Piece Warriors 3 is getting a Japanese Switch port, so I'm wondering how that game was?
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Post by: Bebpo on October 29, 2017, 10:09:07 PM
Quite good if you like One Piece and Musou. Best of the 3 for sure.
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Post by: Bebpo on November 08, 2017, 10:48:54 PM
Dosukebe/Lyte, PS+ JP had Basara 4 & Sanada free this month. Which is better? I think the last Basara I played was 3? Should I skip 4 and jump into Sanada or play 4 because its better?
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Post by: bork on November 09, 2017, 10:56:51 AM
My copy of Musou Orochi 2 Ultimate for Switch arrived this morning.

Surprisingly, the back of the box states that the DLC is included.  Booted it up and sure enough, a large number of DLC levels were available in free play.  The initial three starting characters also had several DLC costumes ready for use.  Not sure if it's all of them, since some had more than others.

The game basically looks like the PS3 version (expected) and seems to run well (tested undocked).  Assuming it's 30 FPS, since it's definitely not going at 60 FPS.  Pretty much what I expected on this end, I.E. blows the previous portable (PSP and Vita) versions out of the water and looks/runs well given the platform. 
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Post by: bork on November 09, 2017, 12:28:24 PM
Dosukebe/Lyte, PS+ JP had Basara 4 & Sanada free this month. Which is better? I think the last Basara I played was 3? Should I skip 4 and jump into Sanada or play 4 because its better?

4 is much better and feels like a complete game.  Sanada is basically a story expansion pack for SB4 that they sold separately...it should have just been some DLC or something and felt unnecessary after SB4 Sumeragi got released.  You get a  few new characters but only play as the Sanadas and a little bit as Date.  You also play as Date and Yukimura as kids.  It's not bad or anything, but underwhelming compared to the insanity that is SB4.  I guess they made this to cash in whatever thing was up with Sanada around this time, because Koei also made their own Sanada game and there was a TV drama.

Is that SB4 or SB4 Sumeragi that's free, BTW?
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Switch Up To Fire Emblem!
Post by: Bebpo on November 09, 2017, 02:04:31 PM
Sumeragi.

Thanks, will check out SB4 this weekend.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Switch Up To Fire Emblem!
Post by: a slime appears on November 09, 2017, 10:17:11 PM
Fire Emblem Warriors is pretty great, better than Hyrule Warriors.

Would like to see what Nintendo franchise they use for the third game in the series.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Switch Up To Fire Emblem!
Post by: deepest throat on November 10, 2017, 12:07:03 AM
Fire Emblem Warriors is pretty great, better than Hyrule Warriors.

Would like to see what Nintendo franchise they use for the third game in the series.
kid icarus is the only other franchise that i can think of that'd work well
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Switch Up To Fire Emblem!
Post by: Bebpo on November 10, 2017, 04:14:05 AM
Dosukebe/Lyte, PS+ JP had Basara 4 & Sanada free this month. Which is better? I think the last Basara I played was 3? Should I skip 4 and jump into Sanada or play 4 because its better?

4 is much better and feels like a complete game.  Sanada is basically a story expansion pack for SB4 that they sold separately...it should have just been some DLC or something and felt unnecessary after SB4 Sumeragi got released.  You get a  few new characters but only play as the Sanadas and a little bit as Date.  You also play as Date and Yukimura as kids.  It's not bad or anything, but underwhelming compared to the insanity that is SB4.  I guess they made this to cash in whatever thing was up with Sanada around this time, because Koei also made their own Sanada game and there was a TV drama.

Is that SB4 or SB4 Sumeragi that's free, BTW?

Ok, so I tried SB4 Sumeragi and it was like a brick wall for someone who hasn't played SB in a decade. I had no idea wtf was going on gameplay-wise, the movelists seemed really limited at the start, I kept turning into a giant tank and some boring ass dude who makes money come out and the new cast all seemed pretty lame compared to the originals and great SB3 designs of Monkey dude and stuff. Really wasn't feeling it at all.

Then tried Sanada and for what it is, and skipping all the cutscenes/story, it was pretty fun. Graphics/art direction seemed a big step up, I liked the movelists of all the characters in the first few stages, and the stages seemed a bit more designed with different sections split by boss fights and character swapping. The Onymouji dude had a pretty cool movelist teleporting around with knives and Sanada felt a lot better than when I tried him at the start of SB4 Sumeragi earlier in the night. Maybe SB4 is just a game where you need to grind everyone up to unlock their moves to make them feel good, whereas Sanada starts with more stuff unlocked so feels better off the start. Dunno.

Probably not gonna play either, I think I'm getting out of musou. The repetition is getting old for me.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Switch Up To Fire Emblem!
Post by: Bebpo on November 10, 2017, 04:49:42 PM
Ok, so I went back to SB4 Sumeragi and tried to speed max Sanada to see how he feels compared to the Sanada game which I like how he feels there. After I got his R2 ougi unlocked it was closer, but yeah in the Sanada game he starts pretty close to maxed out SB4 Sumeragi moveset plus feels like he moves better. In general playing SB4 Sumeragi, the movement/combat controls feel pretty stiff and I feel like Sanada improves that a little? Like the L1 dodge is more standard dodge in Sanada instead of block and sorta dodge in SB4. Idk, just random thoughts.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Switch Up To Fire Emblem!
Post by: bork on November 10, 2017, 04:59:34 PM
Dunno who you used in SB4 to get that kind of impression initially.  The game play is going to be different depending on who you use.  It's different than how Koei does it and some characters can be very different than others, game play wise.  My favorite in SB4 is Naotora Ii, who is vastly different than the Koei take on her in both design and abilities.  She has different type of move enders you can do that make her feel almost like a full-fledged fighting game character.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0DIs5ZjVbIM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Q5MjM8ZMw4

The Sanada game plays the same -it's the same engine- but Yukimura himself did get changed up a bit.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Switch Up To Fire Emblem!
Post by: Bebpo on November 10, 2017, 05:28:21 PM
The problem is the basic movesets are extremely limited. You get like 2-3 moves for the first few maps and the combat is extremely shallow. I don't remember SB2/3 being that bad off the bat.

The Sanada game definitely plays a little better, but a big part of that may be that far more moves are unlocked from the start for each character. Like in SB4 you don't even have your L1+triangle or R1 attack at the start and your triangle attack & directional + triangle attack is lvl.1. In the Sanada expansion you start with L1+triangle, R1 and your triangle attacks are boosted up. Like Yukimura's triangle attack without directional juggles upwards and if you hold it does a flaming kick dive down after. Lvl.20+ into SB4 Yukimura can only juggle upwards and doesn't have the flaming kick.

I don't really have the time to grind out levels for everyone just to get them to be fun to play, so the Sanada expansion where they are fun off the bat feels a lot better imo.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Switch Up To Fire Emblem!
Post by: Himu on November 10, 2017, 07:52:17 PM
The problem is the basic movesets are extremely limited. You get like 2-3 moves for the first few maps and the combat is extremely shallow. I don't remember SB2/3 being that bad off the bat.


I played SB3 and it was exactly like that and made me laugh at any person telling me Basara was betting than Musou. I think Basara is :trash because of it.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Switch Up To Fire Emblem!
Post by: Bebpo on November 10, 2017, 08:05:19 PM
In general I think the musou mechanic of a million characters with half a movelist and you play each of them to slowly get a full moveset is lame. Prefer where you have a mostly a full moveset but you get alternative selectable moves as you go like different musou attacks you can swap in.

Then again, the more musou I play the more I think for my personal tastes I need to enjoy the story/dialogue that's running throughout the maps because otherwise it's just beating up enemies with simple combat for a while which is boring. But if it's a fanservice crossover thing like the Gundam Vs, or One Piece Musou or Hyrule Warriors, it's fun seeing the characters interact with each other as the maps play out.

I have like zero interest in any of the Basara characters or Dynasty Warriors/SW characters anymore, so I just skip all the cutscenes and without the drama stuff going on, the games are kinda not for me though I don't think they're bad.

I would pick up Fire Emblem but I can't recognize a single FE characters despite playing like 3-4 of the games (but that was 10-15 years ago). Looking forward to the next musou based on something I actually am a fan of. Berserk should have been, but didn't turn out that great.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Switch Up To Fire Emblem!
Post by: bork on November 10, 2017, 09:09:48 PM
The problem is the basic movesets are extremely limited. You get like 2-3 moves for the first few maps and the combat is extremely shallow. I don't remember SB2/3 being that bad off the bat.

Yes, there's progression and character leveling...like in all those RPGs you like to play.  :doge

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I don't really have the time to grind out levels for everyone just to get them to be fun to play, so the Sanada expansion where they are fun off the bat feels a lot better imo.

Did you even try using some of the other characters, like Naotora? 
 :cmonson

It doesn't take long at all to get more stuff, either.

Bizarro world here that you like the Sanada game better though.  That's not gonna be a popular opinion among SB fans, heh.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Switch Up To Fire Emblem!
Post by: bork on November 10, 2017, 09:12:28 PM
The problem is the basic movesets are extremely limited. You get like 2-3 moves for the first few maps and the combat is extremely shallow. I don't remember SB2/3 being that bad off the bat.


I played SB3 and it was exactly like that and made me laugh at any person telling me Basara was betting than Musou. I think Basara is :trash because of it.

Musou = More "serious" and more strategy-oriented
Basara = More comical/crazy and more like a traditional beat-em-up

Basara also tends to have characters that can greatly differ from each other in play style and an almost Mega Man-like gimmick going on on certain levels, where you have the boss character's personality influencing the stage design.

I bet if you tried SB4 and used Naotora, you'd really like her.  Really gives off a fighting game vibe.
:idont
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Switch Up To Fire Emblem!
Post by: bork on November 10, 2017, 09:14:14 PM

I would pick up Fire Emblem but I can't recognize a single FE characters despite playing like 3-4 of the games (but that was 10-15 years ago). Looking forward to the next musou based on something I actually am a fan of. Berserk should have been, but didn't turn out that great.

I don't know anything about Fire Emblem.  It doesn't matter...it's a great musou.  One of the best, easily.  I would say the same thing about Hyrule Warriors. 

I had a period of musou burnout for a while there, too- mainly because releases flat-out sucked or were mediocre and I got tired of it.  But they're back now. 
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Switch Up To Fire Emblem!
Post by: Bebpo on November 10, 2017, 09:23:28 PM
The problem is the basic movesets are extremely limited. You get like 2-3 moves for the first few maps and the combat is extremely shallow. I don't remember SB2/3 being that bad off the bat.

Yes, there's progression and character leveling...like in all those RPGs you like to play.  :doge

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I don't really have the time to grind out levels for everyone just to get them to be fun to play, so the Sanada expansion where they are fun off the bat feels a lot better imo.

Did you even try using some of the other characters, like Naotora? 
 :cmonson

It doesn't take long at all to get more stuff, either.

Sure, just tried the first stage as the new bad guy from SB4 who looks like Nobunaga-lite. Here is his movelist in stage 1:

Square combo
standing triangle = a single uppercut that you can't do much after and does little damage
direction + triangle = a forward dash strike, useful for gaining ground and single attack but not for combo-ing
hold square = walk slow and twirl sword, multi-hit but standing still

So basically the only actual combo he has for bosses/mini-bosses is square infinitely with occasional dash strikes. At the end of the stage after I already beat it I unlocked at lvl.10 shooting arrows into the sky that come down a bit away.

Was ok. Haven't found a good fun combo character right off the bat in SB4 Sumeragi

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Bizarro world here that you like the Sanada game better though.  That's not gonna be a popular opinion among SB fans, heh.

To be honest, Sanada wins automatically for not having the fucking roulette spin wheel. I don't know if that's new for Sumeragi, and if it is maybe SB4 >> Sumeragi, but I really dislike in Sumeragi how like half the map I'm forced to play as either bomb dropping guy, giant mecha ship or silver samurai. Like I picked my character for a reason, I want to play as that character. But everytime I kill a final area general in a map the roulette wheel pops. It's a super annoying mechanic.

But at the end of the day, I'll defer to you when it comes to musou since you have way more experience. Sanada might not be great, but I think it's "newbie-friendly"
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Switch Up To Fire Emblem!
Post by: bork on November 10, 2017, 09:44:03 PM
You didn't try Naotora?  Bruh.
 :nope

There's some really fun characters to play as, but not everyone is going to gel with you.  I'm certainly a not a fan of some characters' play styles, even if I like their designs.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Switch Up To Fire Emblem!
Post by: Himu on November 10, 2017, 09:58:05 PM
The problem is the basic movesets are extremely limited. You get like 2-3 moves for the first few maps and the combat is extremely shallow. I don't remember SB2/3 being that bad off the bat.


I played SB3 and it was exactly like that and made me laugh at any person telling me Basara was betting than Musou. I think Basara is :trash because of it.

Musou = More "serious" and more strategy-oriented
Basara = More comical/crazy and more like a traditional beat-em-up

Basara also tends to have characters that can greatly differ from each other in play style and an almost Mega Man-like gimmick going on on certain levels, where you have the boss character's personality influencing the stage design.

I bet if you tried SB4 and used Naotora, you'd really like her.  Really gives off a fighting game vibe.
:idont

i like musou gameplay *because* of the strategy element.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Switch Up To Fire Emblem!
Post by: Bebpo on November 10, 2017, 10:51:22 PM
My ideal musou is Chaos Legion  :shh

I'm not even joking. CL is one of the only musou-like games that actually has weight to the attacks and feels like a character action game/legit beat-em-up.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8eNawDCzxY

Also if you played the USA Chaos Legion, keep in mind this youtube comment:

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I wish i had the actual fucking version of this game from Japan and not the "lets up the difficulty and fuck your life over" version that came in the states. I could barely get past the third level with its unfair health differences and extra XP required to upgrade legions.

They totally fucked over some of the USA versions during that era. I remember Shin Onimusha (#4) which was actually good was another victim of that with 9999 damage sponge lifebars added to everything. Because USA = HARDCORE ONLY GAMERS is what Capcom thought during 2000-2005. Which is funny looking at the iphone gaming audience now  :lol

If I could make a perfect musou game it'd have:

-Character action combat with weight (I'm ok with a smaller cast if they have quality CA movesets and combo-ability)
-Ability to dash cancel out of stuff (this is one thing I really like about most koei musou games; when I'm doing a combo in Basara I hate how I can't dash out of it and instead need to use like a charge triangle move to gain distance between combos and keep the flow)
-Strategy element of koei's best musou games so there's the larger meta game; but maps not too damn big you gotta ride a horse everywhere. Would rather have fast running movement
-Decent boss/mini-boss fights like Hyrule Warriors
-An entertaining story

Now it might be nostalgia speaking but I feel like N3 Ninety-Nine Nights on Xbox came close to that outside the long stages with no checkpoints. I remember liking the combat in that.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Switch Up To Fire Emblem!
Post by: Himu on November 11, 2017, 01:55:24 AM
Bebpo no you remind me of going to gamestop with my teenage crush and he bought the game and I haven't talked to him in years now and fuck you :maf
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Switch Up To Fire Emblem!
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on November 11, 2017, 08:13:43 AM
If WO3 Ultimate for the Switch comes out in the US, I will probably have to play it again.  That would make it the fourth time I played the game (PS3, Wii U, PS4, Switch).  WO3 is still my favorite Musou and for Ultimate, they added several more levels/chapters to the game.  IMO it's worth playing again if you just played vanilla WO3 a few years ago.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Switch Up To Fire Emblem!
Post by: bork on November 11, 2017, 10:48:52 PM
I think I'm gonna need to go boot up SB4 Sumeragi so I can get reacquainted with some things and recommend some characters.  Himu skipping such an awesome game is a shame, but oh well.  Beps...I dunno what to say man.  Especially after this:

My ideal musou is Chaos Legion  :shh

 :nope :hhh :jeanluc :trigger :insane

I had the import, when it came out, and sold that crap off ASAP.  :yuck

Obviously we all have very different tastes here.  :lol

If WO3 Ultimate for the Switch comes out in the US, I will probably have to play it again.  That would make it the fourth time I played the game (PS3, Wii U, PS4, Switch).  WO3 is still my favorite Musou and for Ultimate, they added several more levels/chapters to the game.  IMO it's worth playing again if you just played vanilla WO3 a few years ago.

I have purchased this game a ridiculous number of times.  :lol  Got the vanilla version imported on PS3.  Got the American Xbox 360 version.  Then later on I sold that off when Ultimate came out in Japan and imported that for PS3 and Vita.  I think I may have had just a little bit left to do when the PS4 port hit and I got that just because.  And now I have the Switch version, lol.  I never did get WO Hyper on Wii U.  It's pretty unnecessary at this point but I may get it one day just for the hell of it too. 

Love the game and love the Orochi series in general.  It's my favorite overall from Koei.  I have Musou Orochi Z on PS3 still, which is a port of the first two games for PS3 with upgraded visuals and some extra content. 

Warriors All-Stars is really only similar in how it keeps the theme of characters from multiple series together, but it doesn't play the same, loses a lot of the strategy element, has a much smaller roster, and is just disappointing compared to the perfection that was Warriors Orochi 3.  It's still fun enough as a beat-em-up and for some of the characters, but it's not on the level of WO3.  If you ever want to try it, make sure to get the PC version since it has an awful framerate on PS4 (and is almost unplayable on Vita, which may be why they didn't bother localizing it) but on a good PC will run at a pretty solid 60 FPS.  I wish they'd port it to Switch now since it seems to be a good console for musou.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Switch Up To Fire Emblem!
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on November 12, 2017, 04:52:21 PM
Still playing FE Warriors.  Got the second set of Anna's mementos in the story mode and beat all but the last couple stages on Lunatic.  Not that I thought it was hard, I just haven't got to them yet.

I finally decided to crack open history mode and got through the first map.  I completed one of the pictures so Anna's stage showed up and the difficulty was level 80 and Validar was at level 90 :lol  Rowan was at level 85 and Lianna was level 79.  The timer ran out but if I had 5 more minutes, I would have beat it.  I just need to keep playing through to level up the characters more.

I'll probably beat FE Warriors before playing Mario.  Still a great Musou game.  Not as good as WO3 Ultimate but still very good.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Switch Up To Fire Emblem!
Post by: Trent Dole on November 13, 2017, 06:11:22 AM
http://www.siliconera.com/2017/11/13/next-samurai-warriors-works-wont-release-sometime-september-2018/
This headline is a bit confusing since the article itself says 'sometime in 2019 at the earliest', but yeah. SW5 is coming, eventually.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Switch Up To Fire Emblem!
Post by: bork on November 13, 2017, 07:25:38 AM
Sure, they're gonna focus on putting out the beta test, aka Dynasty Warriors 9, before the real deal SW5 hits a year or so later.  :doge
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Switch Up To Fire Emblem!
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on November 18, 2017, 08:54:00 AM
Still playing Fire Emblem Warriors.  Maxed out Rowan and Lianna.  Beat Story Mode on lunatic and am halfway through History Mode.  About 51 hours in.  I'm going to try to catass it today and be done with it until the DLC comes out.

Just want to finish the game out before moving onto Mario.
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Post by: Himu on November 18, 2017, 09:42:06 AM
http://www.siliconera.com/2017/11/13/next-samurai-warriors-works-wont-release-sometime-september-2018/
This headline is a bit confusing since the article itself says 'sometime in 2019 at the earliest', but yeah. SW5 is coming, eventually.

Hopefully it doesn't suck like 4. But knowing modern musou I'm sure it will.
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Post by: bork on November 18, 2017, 10:34:11 AM
Still playing Fire Emblem Warriors.  Maxed out Rowan and Lianna.  Beat Story Mode on lunatic and am halfway through History Mode.  About 51 hours in.  I'm going to try to catass it today and be done with it until the DLC comes out.

Just want to finish the game out before moving onto Mario.

I'm back on this now and it's so good.

Nice to see free content coming alongside the DLC stuff too.  1.2.0 patch added a few things.

http://www.siliconera.com/2017/11/13/next-samurai-warriors-works-wont-release-sometime-september-2018/
This headline is a bit confusing since the article itself says 'sometime in 2019 at the earliest', but yeah. SW5 is coming, eventually.

Hopefully it doesn't suck like 4. But knowing modern musou I'm sure it will.

Well, since 4 is one of the best musous ever made, I guess if it "sucks" like that game did, it will be pretty awesome.
:ohyeah
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Switch Up To Fire Emblem!
Post by: Himu on November 18, 2017, 11:35:46 AM
We will never agree about SW4 lol. SW is my fave musou series so I have high expectations for it and they ruined everything I like about SW. So we'll never see eye to eye on that game.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Switch Up To Fire Emblem!
Post by: bork on November 18, 2017, 01:13:41 PM
You also shit on Basara, so I dunno.  SB4 is so good...too bad you don't have PSN+ for Japan.  I certainly wouldn't recommend buying it to try it since you hated SB3 and all that.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Switch Up To Fire Emblem!
Post by: Himu on November 18, 2017, 01:35:21 PM
SW4 felt more Basara than Musou. :yeshrug That's a problem because I don't play Musou for Basara and if people wanted Basara they can play that. SW was the hardest Musou series, and arguably the most strategic. Turned more in a hack and slash. Different strokes.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Switch Up To Fire Emblem!
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on November 18, 2017, 02:59:10 PM
Finally got Anna.  Uguu~~~
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Switch Up To Fire Emblem!
Post by: bork on November 18, 2017, 05:43:58 PM
SW4 felt more Basara than Musou. :yeshrug

Not at all.  Still had a strategy element and if you wanted more strategy...you have SW4 Empires and SW3 Chroniclrs.
:idont

Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Switch Up To Fire Emblem!
Post by: Bebpo on November 18, 2017, 07:28:36 PM
Played a few more stages in Berserk Musou this morning (I play a stage or two every month for some mindless action), and after playing Basara last week, Berserk Musou actually feels...pretty good. Like the combat system is a bit too simplistic and the additional systems are lacking (only equipment which is very minor stats), and sure there aren't a lot of characters, so content-wise it's definitely not a huge game.

But the actual in-map smashing people feels pretty good for a musou. Like for once it actually feels like there's some weight to everything instead of everyone just being made out of paper. I also enjoy the frenzied bloodbath musou mode. Game moves pretty damn fast too, maps are good size and horse gets around the whole map in like 20-30 secs max.

Idk, it's too repetitive for me to keep playing it, plus I'm so tired of Golden Age Berserk (even though its good stuff) and just want to get past it and into the latter fantasy manga material. But don't think I'll delete it anytime soon and if they ever made an improved sequel (which they won't because it bombed) I think I'd jump in day 1.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Switch Up To Fire Emblem!
Post by: bork on November 18, 2017, 09:10:59 PM
Did you ever play Musou Orochi 2 Ultimate, Bebpo?  If not, delete that Berserk shit and get it on Switch (for all the included DLC) to experience greatness.
:rejoice
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Switch Up To Fire Emblem!
Post by: Bebpo on November 18, 2017, 09:57:29 PM
Yeah, I like WO2U. Definitely my favorite of the DW/SW series.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Switch Up To Fire Emblem!
Post by: Himu on November 18, 2017, 10:05:24 PM
you mean 3U?
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Switch Up To Fire Emblem!
Post by: Bebpo on November 18, 2017, 10:07:45 PM
Idk, one of them! WO is pretty fun after the first one because it feels like the Marvel v Capcom of DW. A ton of characters with flashy moves and stuff.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Switch Up To Fire Emblem!
Post by: Himu on November 18, 2017, 10:24:12 PM
Idk, one of them!

 :lol

Nice and honest
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Post by: bork on November 18, 2017, 11:36:50 PM
Speaking of SW4, Spirit Of Sanada is $19.99 new on Amazon.  Bought...will try it for that price.
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Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on November 22, 2017, 07:35:51 AM
Two more history mode maps left.  Almost everyone is level 70 or higher with six characters reaching maximum level.  I decided to just hold onto all of the Master Seals so I got over a half dozen of them waiting to be used.  I want to see if the DLC characters are any good before using them elsewhere.  So I'd say I'm about 90% done with the game.  About 67 hours in.  Pretty good game.  I just need one more day to catass through the rest of it and I should be done.  Then I can move on to Mario.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Switch Up To Fire Emblem!
Post by: bork on November 22, 2017, 07:49:33 AM
Are you planning to get the DLC too?
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Switch Up To Fire Emblem!
Post by: bork on November 22, 2017, 09:41:16 AM
Speaking of SW4, Spirit Of Sanada is $19.99 new on Amazon.  Bought...will try it for that price.

Got this yesterday.  I also threw in a used copy of Samurai Warriors 4, which I sold off when Samurai Warriors 4-II came out, to complete the SW4 set.  And they sent me...Samurai Warriors 4 Empires.  :lol
:dead

Not sure how you can botch that when the game says "EMPIRES" in large font across the case.   :doge
At least with Amazon it's no hassle.  Will drop it off in the UPS box down the street and ordered a new copy of SW4 to hopefully avoid confusion again.
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Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on November 22, 2017, 07:01:12 PM
Are you planning to get the DLC too?

I already bought the season pass.  I probably won't revisit it until all the DLC comes out.
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Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on November 23, 2017, 11:02:43 PM
I completed the history maps.  As I mentioned before, I wasn't going to spend hours farming dragon claws or manakete tails (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32QEENKpDbk) so I did not unlock all of the crests.  Oh well, you don't need to do that at all for this game.

Finished at over 79 hours.  I will revisit for the season DLC, of which the first pack is to be released next month with the last one released in March.  Some items to note:

- Some of the latter history map battles can be trickier.  There is a tendency to where the game will send waves of enemies to defeat the allied commander or the allied base.  Some of them are called Ruffians and if you don't defeat them within a minute they take over the base and the battle is over.  Sometimes the enemies will pop up in the base itself and if your ass isn't there defeating the soldier, monster, etc. within 30 seconds, the battle is lost.  So sometimes in some stages, you need to have someone there at all times and you can switch to play as that character to defeat them.  The AI alone will not do it, you will have to defeat them with a playable character in my experience.

- Some characters are just useless at any level.  Any mounted character or character using a stone fits here.  The former is clunky to use (Camilla is an exception...sometimes) and the latter is often too weak to do any real damage by themselves.  For the lulz, I had Tiki at level 80 and she was fuck worthless compared to Lyn at level 35.  I'm sure someone will correct me and insist that Tiki is actually the most powerful character in the game but it certainly did not feel that way to me.

- Despite clearing the history maps I got a lot of crest items that still had ??????????????? for them.  So I have no idea what those items are.  Maybe they are items you get if connections are strong enough between the characters.  Again, I was not about to spend even more time farming for items.  I'm sure an FAQ or a Youtube video has them somewhere.

- The team AI still impressed me.  Sending them to take out a fort or an officer is great.  In many Musou games, it's all up to you because your team AI will just stand around except for the occasional poke at a grunt.

I still consider WO3 to be my favorite Musou but FE Warriors might actually be my second favorite.  I definitely consider it an upper tier Musou title, which I think WO3, DW5, SW2-4, and this game falls into.  I'm glad to be done with the game for now but look forward to revisiting when the DLC gets released.

Now onto Mario!
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Switch Up To Fire Emblem!
Post by: Trent Dole on November 24, 2017, 02:03:23 AM
DW 9 Feb 8 in Nippon Feb 13th USSA/EU if that's not been mentioned before.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Switch Up To Fire Emblem!
Post by: Bebpo on December 01, 2017, 12:08:50 AM
Tried out DQ Heroes II on PS4 since it was $25 over BF. Straight from the start the production values are pretty nice. You can tell these games get $$ budgeting. Would be cool if they made an FF one someday.

So from the page or two of impressions, it sure sounds like I should pick up Fire Emblem Warriors when it's discounted at some point. Does the US version have dual audio?
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Switch Up To Fire Emblem!
Post by: bork on December 21, 2017, 08:15:27 AM
Fire Emblem DLC #1 is up.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Switch Up To Fire Emblem!
Post by: bork on December 26, 2017, 08:34:54 AM
Am full-on back into Fire Emblem now (stopped playing it when Mario came out) and am up to chapter 19 in the story mode.  Seems like I'm nearing the end?  Really, really enjoying the game and the strategy elements of commanding multiple characters and switching between them is always fun.  About the only problem I've had are some of the later stages being so chaotic that I couldn't get to Anna's shop or hit up a treasure chest before the end of the level.  Tons and tons of battles going on while retaining a good framerate!   Loving teaming up with another character and unleashing a crazy dual-musou attack.
:lawd

Also what is up with the roster?  I've unlocked a ton of characters but the game keeps defaulting to the same few playable ones every time.  I went with Lianna as the main character and in the later stages, every time the other playable characters are Lissa, Camilla, and Elise.  I assume if you pick Rowan you get three dudes with you?  On some levels you can change your main starting character, but I don't see a way to do it for everyone, not even in the History Mode.  Weird that you get all these characters and don't get a chance to make your own team.  I have yet to even use some of the characters that were unlocked early on.  :lol

EDIT: Oh snap, there's more characters to unlock History Mode too?  I see Celica, Lyn, and Anna listed.
:leon
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Switch Up To Fire Emblem!
Post by: bork on December 26, 2017, 08:51:35 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBpILLpXatQ
:crazy

That's...gonna take a while.  :lol
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Switch Up To Fire Emblem!
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on December 26, 2017, 09:06:41 AM
I unlocked Anna and it’s a pain in the ass to do unless your characters are level 90 or over
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Switch Up To Fire Emblem!
Post by: bork on December 26, 2017, 09:16:06 AM
I got a (brand new!) copy of Fist Of The North Star: Ken's Rage last week for PS3.  I previously played through the Japanese version and always wanted the English version, which has added violence and some other minor tweaks.  There was also Hokuto Musou International that had this stuff, but I was never able to find a copy.  Loaded it up and checked out a level.  It has been like 6-7 years since I last played this and...holy shit, time has not been kind to this game.  That framerate.  :lol :dizzy 

Even though it's not very good, I also ordered a copy of Ken's Rage 2 on PS3.  It got a physical release in Europe and I wouldn't mind having it for collecting purposes.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Switch Up To Fire Emblem!
Post by: demi on December 30, 2017, 11:09:26 PM
Fire Emblem is $44 on Amazon, used some credit to get it for $11

http://amzn.to/2Enu95W
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Switch Up To Fire Emblem!
Post by: Bebpo on December 31, 2017, 12:11:01 AM
$44 is still a lot! Then again, Musou games don't drop much... ;_;
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Switch Up To Fire Emblem!
Post by: Trent Dole on December 31, 2017, 01:58:03 AM
NOTHING published by Ninty drops much.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Switch Up To Fire Emblem!
Post by: bork on December 31, 2017, 12:01:13 PM
Did I mention anything about One Piece Kaizoku Musou 3 for Switch?  It's another great port just like Musou Orochi 2 Ultimate was, complete with all the DLC.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Switch Up To Fire Emblem!
Post by: archie4208 on January 11, 2018, 09:14:16 AM
https://youtu.be/a_u7g5BlfiY?t=224

I'm buying Hyrule Warriors for a 3rd time.  :fbm
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Switch Up To Fire Emblem!
Post by: bork on January 11, 2018, 11:53:22 AM
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Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Switch Up To Fire Emblem!
Post by: Bebpo on January 11, 2018, 03:56:21 PM
Probably pick Hyrule Warriors up again.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Switch Up To Fire Emblem!
Post by: Himu on January 11, 2018, 04:34:26 PM
never played it. Now's my chance. Switch is shaping up to be a good Wii U port machine for those of us who weren't stupid enough to buy Wii U's.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Switch Up To Fire Emblem!
Post by: Trent Dole on January 12, 2018, 05:29:43 PM
The day my DS copy of Hyrule Warriors arrives the Switch port is announced. :lol Figured this wasn't going to happen when they announced the Fire Emblem one. I'll just buy it again someday I guess!
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Switch Up To Fire Emblem!
Post by: Trent Dole on January 18, 2018, 05:47:19 AM
https://youtu.be/oDV9TIstedU
Each of the 90 playable people have their own ending? There's definitely going to be some overlap in cinematics and such.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Switch Up To Fire Emblem!
Post by: bork on January 18, 2018, 07:37:00 AM
Hope it turns out well.  Am feeling more optimistic about the game now and will probably pick it up at launch.  Surprised to see that it is being released in English so quickly...I think it's less than a week after the Japanese version?
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Switch Up To Fire Emblem!
Post by: bork on January 18, 2018, 11:44:23 AM
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This week’s issue of Famitsu had some new info on Hyrule Warriors: Definitive Edition, including confirming the total roster of 29 characters, as well as confirming the inclusion of mid-battle character switching, which was introduced in Hyrule Warriors Legends. [Thanks, BlackKite on Twitter!]


The game will have all 29 characters from the base game and DLC of Hyrule Warriors Legends, as well as the characters’ various weapon playstyles. Definitive Edition also have features introduced in Legends, such as a now-fully-3D ‘My Fairy’ mode, and the popular character switching feature that was also present in last year’s Fire Emblem Warriors. However, the game does not have Fire Emblem Warriors’ pair-up mechanic.

Challenge Mode, where Ganon’s beast form was available to play as, was removed in Hyrule Warriors Legends, but is making a full return in this game.

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Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Switch Up To Fire Emblem!
Post by: Trent Dole on January 19, 2018, 01:15:53 AM
Surprised to see that it is being released in English so quickly...I think it's less than a week after the Japanese version?
Yeah, the 8th in Japan and then the 13th for the US/EU including PC. :rejoice HW DE sounds pretty damn hype, didn't know Legends was missing something from the original version, DE is on the list when/if we Switch it up.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Switch Up To Fire Emblem!
Post by: Bebpo on January 19, 2018, 02:04:04 AM
https://youtu.be/oDV9TIstedU
Each of the 90 playable people have their own ending? There's definitely going to be some overlap in cinematics and such.

Is it weird that this looks super fucking bad to me?

Like wow, that's just what DW needed, COLLECT ITEMS TO CRAFT ITEMS
or shitty hunting
or running between bases
...and the environment graphics still kinda suck so exploring doesn't look particularly pleasing.

Basically it looks like a standard DW game with an ugly hub that's just gonna make stuff tedious and a bunch of terrible open world grind crap.

But yeah I'm not a musou expert like some of ya, so I might be wrong.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Switch Up To Fire Emblem!
Post by: Himu on January 19, 2018, 02:09:58 AM
I'll reserve my opinion for when it comes out. There are some elements that are concerning, but I don't want to be a negative nancy about it. It has potential, but it also might not work out. There are certainly some cool things I see like slowly taking over China's camps. That sounds fun. Ideally, it'd be best if it had a mix of Empires and regular DW in it.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Switch Up To Fire Emblem!
Post by: bork on January 28, 2018, 06:23:49 PM
I never mentioned anything about Gintama Rumble. 

Seems really solid!  Great, solid framerate and some old fashioned musou-style game play.  There's a shitload of story inbetween the levels and this is the negative for me, because it's told in still panels with a narrator.  Kind of reminds of the Arslan game.  But thankfully the gameplay segments are actually good.

This has kind of been pushed to the side with other releases and I'll get back into it soon.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Switch Up To Fire Emblem!
Post by: bork on February 10, 2018, 12:01:52 PM
Reading some bad things about Dynasty Warriors 9.  Mainly huge framerate issues on both the released Japanese PS4 version and preview versions on PC.  Bad enough to be deemed unplayable in some cases.  Note that this is on O.G. PS4s, not Pro.

Koei claims a patch is already in the works for the performance issues and there may be a "day one" patch for the U.S. release next week.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Switch Up To Fire Emblem!
Post by: bork on February 10, 2018, 12:04:17 PM
Wow.  :lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJBguR2KDKA
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Switch Up To Fire Emblem!
Post by: bork on February 10, 2018, 12:07:37 PM
However, to the contrary, here is the game on PS4 Pro:

PS4 Pro 4K 30FPS Gameplay, or "Movie" Mode

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7naKffCH3YE

PS4 Pro 1080P 60FPS Gameplay, or "Action" Mode

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GNTGudpTgnc

Looks...pretty good on Pro? 
:idont

Definitely avoiding the PC version now, at any rate.  Will not buy day one like I did with Warriors All-Stars- someone else can take a gamble and see if it's good on Steam.  I'll get it on PS4.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Switch Up To Fire Emblem!
Post by: BobFromPikeCreek on February 12, 2018, 10:57:52 AM
Been getting back into Musou with a vengeance. Been binging hard on Hyrule Warriors the last couple weeks and am grabbing a copy of Dragon Quest Heroes 2 tonight. If I'm not completely burned out and the impressions are good I'll scoop up DW9 next.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Switch Up To Fire Emblem!
Post by: bork on February 12, 2018, 05:32:39 PM
I saw some positive early impressions from some who got DW9 early.

But then you have people like Jim Sterling who think the game is a piece of shit.  I'll be very interested in seeing what Jim has to say about it tomorrow.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Switch Up To Fire Emblem!
Post by: kingv on February 12, 2018, 08:07:07 PM
I hate that fat fuck Jim Sterling.

He looks like he eats some other dudes load out of his wife.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Switch Up To Fire Emblem!
Post by: Trent Dole on February 13, 2018, 06:47:26 AM
Jim is a genuine fan of the series so if he is down on it that's a bit worrisome. Giant Bomb have a 'quick look' of it up where they barely delve into the new mechanics and ponder how so many of these keep getting made. Again.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Switch Up To Fire Emblem!
Post by: bork on February 13, 2018, 07:27:43 AM
He absolutely hates it and refers to it as "Dynasty Warriors Nein."  :lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fE12Z9YJJtg

Am seeing other people posting positive impressions, so it may be a polarizing game.  But Jim has some pretty legit gripes here:

-The "open world" is a bland, lifeless, mostly-flat landscape with next to nothing to do.

-You run for miles and miles to get to what might be a one-minute fight, then run for miles and miles to another event.  Later you can fast-travel but it still feels incredibly tedious and like they spread out a smaller level to a huge, empty map for no reason.

-Unique weapons for a lot of characters have been removed (again!?  WTF, Koei?  :lol).  He does note that they do have unique animations for the same weapons, so characters at least don't all do the same attacks as each other.

-The new game play system is very "button mashy" and makes everyone feel the same.  You basically just mash a single button now.

-Everyone has a grappling hook, so walls and locked gates?  DOESN'T MATTER! You can just climb right over!  :lol
:dead

-Bad English voice acting.  Not DW3 LOL-bad...just bad.  Some actors don't even pronounce names correctly.

-He speculates that the missing 'unique' weapons from DW8 will probably be sold as DLC and if this happens, he's going to be very pissed off.

A lot of what he's describing and what I'm seeing gives off a major Dynasty Warriors 6 vibe, which is not a good thing.  Will keep checking out impressions and reviews today.  As of right now I'm actually seeing more positive than negative -Jim is the big negative one- and if it stays that way, I'll try the game.  Otherwise I'm just gonna return it and wait to see what happens with updates or a new version down the line.

Oh, and PC version is shit, confirmed.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Switch Up To Fire Emblem!
Post by: bork on February 13, 2018, 07:38:17 AM
Jim is a genuine fan of the series so if he is down on it that's a bit worrisome. Giant Bomb have a 'quick look' of it up where they barely delve into the new mechanics and ponder how so many of these keep getting made. Again.

It's hard to argue with Giant Bomb saying that with how a lot of recent games have turned out.  Fire Emblem Warriors is the best of the recent releases by far (can't comment on DW9 yet!).
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Dynasty Warriors...Nein?
Post by: BobFromPikeCreek on February 13, 2018, 10:05:41 AM
Oof that Jimpressions... Yeah, doesn't really sound like it focuses on the stuff I like about Musou.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Dynasty Warriors...Nein?
Post by: eleuin on February 13, 2018, 11:10:28 AM
Yeah there was no way the open world was going to be interesting with that engine and no budget

A shame, time to make another Orochi Musou
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Switch Up To Fire Emblem!
Post by: kingv on February 13, 2018, 12:59:59 PM
Jim is a genuine fan of the series so if he is down on it that's a bit worrisome. Giant Bomb have a 'quick look' of it up where they barely delve into the new mechanics and ponder how so many of these keep getting made. Again.

It's hard to argue with Giant Bomb saying that with how a lot of recent games have turned out.  Fire Emblem Warriors is the best of the recent releases by far (can't comment on DW9 yet!).

Is fire emblem better than Zelda? I want to try a Musou, but not sure which one to start with.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Dynasty Warriors...Nein?
Post by: archie4208 on February 13, 2018, 01:15:58 PM
FE:W is a better game, but the roster is less interesting.  HW is still my favorite game because I'm a giant Zelda mark and the fan service is 10/10.  The Switch version of HW is supposed to carry over some improvements from FE:W which will probably make it the best Warriors game.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Switch Up To Fire Emblem!
Post by: bork on February 13, 2018, 01:39:11 PM
Jim is a genuine fan of the series so if he is down on it that's a bit worrisome. Giant Bomb have a 'quick look' of it up where they barely delve into the new mechanics and ponder how so many of these keep getting made. Again.

It's hard to argue with Giant Bomb saying that with how a lot of recent games have turned out.  Fire Emblem Warriors is the best of the recent releases by far (can't comment on DW9 yet!).

Is fire emblem better than Zelda? I want to try a Musou, but not sure which one to start with.

Fire Emblem Warriors and Hyrule Warriors (Legends, the 3DS version and the one coming to Switch) are pretty similar to each other.  I would pretty much call Fire Emblem the "sequel" to Hyrule Warriors, but like Archie said, the roster is less interesting in that there's less character variety.  Hyrule Warriors has a more diverse roster and also some nice little 'Zelda' like touches thrown in.  You can't go wrong with either game and fundamentally both are more classic-style musou and would be good starter choices. 
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Dynasty Warriors...Nein?
Post by: bork on February 13, 2018, 11:33:12 PM
Very early initial Dynasty Warriors 9 impressions.  Noting that I'm playing on a PS4 Pro and with hard difficulty.  Might switch to chaos.

-Do not even attempt to play this on "Movie" mode.  Just don't.  The framerate is atrocious and borderline unplayable.

-"Action" mode seems fine on Pro for the most part.  Is it 60 FPS?  LOL, no.  But playable.  I did however see it dip to a ridiculously low level when I rushed into a battle.  It was still playable, but noticeable low.

-I both get and do not get a Dynasty Warriors 6 vibe from this game.  It being similar in that this is kind of like Omega Force starting over again with new mechanics and gameplay systems, and not similar in that so far, at least...I like the game.  It's not jaw-droppingly awesome and is very rough around the edges (total musou-jank), but it's actually been fun to play.

-Combat has kind of been reworked and there's still enough attack combos to pull off.  It is simply done differently than before.  You hold down R1 to bring up a modifier list that allows you to choose different type of attack follow-ups using the face buttons.  It also appears that you can change these up with moves earned or items crafted.  It's actually pretty awesome how you can chain together multiple square and R1+button attacks, then run up to the enemy when they get knocked back and keep right on doing it.  Really makes your character look like a bad-ass. 

-Total menu/stat overload.  There is a LOT of information coming at you at once, especially when you start playing. 

-Movement feels pretty good for a Koei musou.  You can roll, (double) jump, lock-on with R3 and circle-strafe officers, musou attack, guard/strafe, use available items like health power-ups, and call your horse. There's also a focus on countering using triangle now.  When not in combat, holding R1 will let you run and tapping it uses a grappling hook to climb over walls.  I got a bit of a wire-fu kung-fu movie vibe when running and jumping between rooftops in towns, too.

-You can run pretty quickly (and your horse runs even quicker), although you have a stamina meter, so it's not infinite.  This combined with fast travel doesn't seem too bad, but I still found myself taking a minute or two to run through barren land towards the first major battle, which made me chuckle.  I can see this getting annoying.

-When traveling, you can hit L2 to auto-run with your horse and your character will move automatically to a set waypoint.  Helps to not feel so tedious when going to a far away destination, but I would have preferred an option to just teleport right to where a mission is.  So far I have encountered random little battles while traveling, so at least it's not entirely barren.

-Dunno how bad the English voices are because you get Japanese and Chinese voices too.  Tried Chinese and people sound into their roles for the most part.

-There's various crafting materials all over the map.  You just run over stuff to pick it up so it's not a big deal to get into crafting items.  But if you need to find something specifically, that can be annoying.  Had to run around for a little bit to find a specific ingredient to make an item for an NPC request, for example.  Still, if you have a location on the map, you can set a marker and arrows will point the way.

I'm not big on open-world games in general and would have preferred set maps/levels like most other Koei musou games, but this doesn't seem too bad.  They need to work on getting the framerate improved and I think it will be fine.  But again, these are very initial impressions so I might end up getting annoyed with other quirks or problems yet to come. 

It's cool to see them trying something different, but this game definitely lacks the polish of releases like Hyrule Warriors, Fire Emblem Warriors, One Piece Pirate Warriors 3, and Dragon Quest Heroes II.  If you're OK with trying something new and different, understand that it will lack polish and feel 'janky,' and have a Pro or XBone X, I'd give this a shot.  I don't want to recommend this to vanilla PS4 or Xbone owners based on early videos I've seen.  The framerate just looks awful.  And the jury is still out on PC AFAIK.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Dynasty Warriors...Nein?
Post by: bork on February 14, 2018, 12:17:42 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1qYCNNSyAcg
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How did you do the side steps between each juggles? Just realized you could do that from this video. This changes everything.
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which specific ones? The air ones? With fire wheels accessory, you can jump cancel any frame of your attacks, so if you airdash cancel and attack immediately you can do extended air juggles.
:gladbron :mynicca :whoo
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Switch Up To Fire Emblem!
Post by: Trent Dole on February 14, 2018, 01:26:18 AM
He absolutely hates it and refers to it as "Dynasty Warriors Nein."  :lol
He's so angry he's doing The Jimquisition on KT this Monday! :dead The slowdown he showed at the end of the impressions video on Pro is pretty ridiculous but that's DW for ya. This looks like a regression in some ways while being a new thing in some others. It's been a while since we've had a mainline DW game but the main team hasn't been working on this the entire time, they were on the Nintendo Warriors projects etc. Looks like it's a wait for a sale kind of game, I gave them the full entry price for All Stars expecting it to be the new Orochi (lol NOPE aside from it being a uber crossover game).
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Dynasty Warriors...Nein?
Post by: bork on February 14, 2018, 07:40:07 AM
They released a patch already:
(https://i.imgur.com/mX8JAjt.png)

Will be interesting to see if this actually helps with performance on anything.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Dynasty Warriors...Nein?
Post by: Bebpo on February 14, 2018, 10:58:45 PM
 Saw DW9 took like a 50%+ hit in sales in Japan. If the open world gambit doesn't attract more WW sales, mainline series is kinda fucked. Probably just some cheap expansions and focus on crossover games that sell instead for the next few years.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Dynasty Warriors...Nein?
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on February 14, 2018, 11:03:48 PM
They should have just made Warriors Orochi 4 instead.  Has anyone given a shit about the mainline series in over a decade?  The last mainline DW game I really liked was the fifth one and that was 13 years ago.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Dynasty Warriors...Nein?
Post by: bork on February 14, 2018, 11:30:44 PM
Saw DW9 took like a 50%+ hit in sales in Japan.
:whoo

Maybe it will light a fire under someone's ass to get some better quality control going and stop the Omega Force sweatshop from cranking out so many games so quickly.

They should have just made Warriors Orochi 4 instead.

Unfortunately, we got Warriors All-Stars in place of that.  Another game that had major performance issues (way worse than DW9 IMO) on consoles.

Has anyone given a shit about the mainline series in over a decade?  The last mainline DW game I really liked was the fifth one and that was 13 years ago.

I've never really big that big on Dynasty Warriors and like their other series a lot more.  My favorites have been DW5 and DW8.  I actually would put DW9 over DW6 and DW7 right now. 
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Dynasty Warriors...Nein?
Post by: Bebpo on February 15, 2018, 01:39:13 AM
Why do these games still have performance issues? The graphics aren’t particularly impressive. Can’t they just use UE4?
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Dynasty Warriors...Nein?
Post by: bork on February 15, 2018, 07:26:08 AM
To clarify the sales:
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The PlayStation 4 version of Dynasty Warriors 9 launched at 117,495 first week sales in Japan and was the top selling new release last week, the latest Media Create sales reveal.

For comparison’s sake, Dynasty Warriors 8 for PlayStation 3 debuted at 203,224 sales, and Dynasty Warriors 7 for PlayStation 3 debuted at 253,090 sales.

Although Dynasty Warriors 9 was the top selling new release this week, it was still outsold by Monster Hunter: World for PlayStation 4, which moved an additional 159,613 units.

So it has been steadily declining with each new iteration.

Monster Hunter World is a juggernaut over there, holy shit- it's almost at two million units sold already. 

Why do these games still have performance issues? The graphics aren’t particularly impressive. Can’t they just use UE4?

I don't get it either.  In DW9's case, there are areas where there is a ton of shit happening and soldiers pouring into the battle area, so I can understand some performance hits, but not in general across the board.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Dynasty Warriors...Nein?
Post by: Svejk on February 15, 2018, 08:31:58 AM
Soooooo basically there's no point getting this if you only have a base PS4?  Love SW4 and it was pretty solid on there.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Dynasty Warriors...Nein?
Post by: bork on February 15, 2018, 08:56:29 AM
Soooooo basically there's no point getting this if you only have a base PS4?  Love SW4 and it was pretty solid on there.

Dunno because of the patch they released yesterday.  Saw some people saying the framerate is a lot better, but the graphics took even more of a hit because of it.

Fire Emblem Warriors got new DLC last night.  I went to load it up this morning and check it out, and holy shit does Fire Emblem look and run so much smoother in comparison, lol.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Dynasty Warriors...Nein?
Post by: Trent Dole on February 16, 2018, 01:22:43 AM
Quote from: Angry Steam Reviewer
Most devs makes patchs to fix issues, KOEI makes patchs to break and lock contents instead. now users cant enable chinese dubs even though the game data is all there, good job! Wish I could refund this game
:rofl
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tqn3wipYcMM
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Dynasty Warriors...Nein?
Post by: bork on February 16, 2018, 07:15:45 AM
Wait...is he playing the PC version?  I thought it was the PS4 version.

Jim, you know better.   :doge
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Dynasty Warriors...Nein?
Post by: Rufus on February 16, 2018, 08:58:48 AM
The first video was of the PS4 version.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Dynasty Warriors...Nein?
Post by: archie4208 on February 18, 2018, 08:33:39 AM
https://nintendoeverything.com/hyrule-warriors-definitive-edition-has-an-event-scene-viewer-other-tidbits-and-new-screenshots/

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Another new feature is the Item Card Shop. Item cards you’ve previously obtained in Adventure Mode can be purchased with rupees.
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Another new feature is the Item Card Shop. Item cards you’ve previously obtained in Adventure Mode can be purchased with rupees.
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Another new feature is the Item Card Shop. Item cards you’ve previously obtained in Adventure Mode can be purchased with rupees.

GOAT musou confirmed
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Dynasty Warriors...Nein?
Post by: BobFromPikeCreek on February 18, 2018, 02:44:59 PM
https://nintendoeverything.com/hyrule-warriors-definitive-edition-has-an-event-scene-viewer-other-tidbits-and-new-screenshots/

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Another new feature is the Item Card Shop. Item cards you’ve previously obtained in Adventure Mode can be purchased with rupees.
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Another new feature is the Item Card Shop. Item cards you’ve previously obtained in Adventure Mode can be purchased with rupees.
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Another new feature is the Item Card Shop. Item cards you’ve previously obtained in Adventure Mode can be purchased with rupees.

GOAT musou confirmed

Fuuuck I wish the Wii U version had this. Will rebuy for sure now whenever I get a Switch. Would've played so much more Adventure Mode if there weren't the Item Card grind.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Dynasty Warriors...Nein?
Post by: bork on February 20, 2018, 11:53:50 AM
Here's Jim doing an entire episode on Dynasty Warriors, as promised:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4u3Kf274iOk

So much like before, I'm with him on things like tons of asset recycling, inexcusable performance issues, 'last-gen' graphics, etc.  The problem here is that all this stuff is as per usual for Koei musou and I just can't help but think that Jim made this video because he doesn't like DW9...and one of the big reasons he doesn't like DW9 is because they changed the weapon on his favorite character, something he mentioned more than once.  I played a bunch more of the game last night and I just don't agree with him.  DW9 is a highly-flawed game to be sure, but it's still fun.

Some crazy fucker also responded to this video with a death threat to Jim, btw.
:crazy
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Dynasty Warriors...Nein?
Post by: bork on February 20, 2018, 09:47:21 PM
Depends on where you are and what is going on.  You might be in an open space with a few enemies or you might be inside some fortress walls with shitloads of them.  The craziest battle I've had so far was outside in a wide-open area, within the confines of a "base camp" sector.  Tons and tons of enemy generals kept pouring in.  In fact like Jim I may drop the difficulty down to normal, because holy shit do some fights take way too long on hard.

One thing that still hasn't been a problem for me is traveling around.  Just open the map and fast-travel to the closest spot, call the horse, ride to the destination, kick ass, rinse, repeat.  I've done just about everything big in the yellow turban rebellion chapter and now just need to go to the main castle and end it.  Tried this yesterday but the boss just wrecked me in like two hits.  :lol
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Dynasty Warriors...Nein?
Post by: Trent Dole on February 21, 2018, 03:32:08 AM
Nothing he says is actually wrong, musou is bad, viva musou. :-[
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Dynasty Warriors...Nein?
Post by: bork on February 21, 2018, 07:37:38 AM
Went and re-purchased Dynasty Warriors 8 XL for PS4.  It is getting harder to find (at least new) and the price has increased a bit.  I got rid of it towards a trade-in for the PS4 Pro so I'm interested in seeing how it runs with boost mode.  I don't usually go back and buy older musou games but with 9 being such a different game I'd like to have both.  Would be more interested in Empires but I hate how it's a straight PS3 port that literally looks like a PS3 musou and has none of the visual boosts that 8XL got.   :-\

Nothing he says is actually wrong, musou is bad, viva musou. :-[

It's the last part.  He's not implying that anymore...it's like he had no problem with any of the stuff he talked about, for years, until DW9 got to him.  That's my problem with it all.  Like, dude...you love these games and didn't say anything before, but now suddenly the floodgates are open?  He basically went from "fuck DW9" to "fuck DW9 and all these games in general" in like a week. Come on.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Dynasty Warriors...Nein?
Post by: bork on February 21, 2018, 01:17:11 PM
Senran Kagura Burst Re:Newal came out today.  Is it musou?  Eh, close enough...if Basara is included in this thread, Senran can be too.   :P

Re:Newal is a remake of Senran Kagura (Burst), which is the first game in the series, for PS4.  The game originally came out on the 3DS and was a 2.5D beat-em-up.  This version of the game puts it in line with the other 3D versions on Sony platforms and in fact it pretty much feels like it could have just been an Estival Versus expansion pack.  Lots of re-used assets all over the place and some of the same stages are back as well.  The game does have different enemy types and so far even feels a little more difficult than the other games, which is a good thing.

The graphics look a bit better than the other games -currently am playing on a Vita with remote play but glanced at it on TV real quick- while the models look about the same, it looks like the environments and effects may have been improved a bit, plus there's some filtering going on that gives the game a softer, but cleaner look.

The big problem with this game is not with the gameplay...it's that Honey Parade Games/Marvelous got greedy.  The original Senran Kagura only had one school playable (5-6 characters) and Burst added their rival school for a total of 12 playable characters.  Then came Shinovi Versus on the Vita which added in two more schools and doubled that roster.  Estival Versus added some more characters including some DLC characters who unfortunately had no story modes of their own.

This time, there's stories and levels for the DLC characters and that's great.  But what sucks here is that they took characters who have been in the past Sony/PC platform SK games and made them DLC.  Like...WTF?  You get the main two schools from the original Burst and while initially they made it look like Yumi, added in Shinovi Versus, would be a bonus extra character, as it turns out both the other two main schools and possibly more characters on top of that are all in the game as paid DLC.  And that sucks.  It feels like they took the content from Estival Versus and cut it out just to re-sell it.
 :cmonson

This hasn't been announced for a western release yet, but I am sure it's coming since the trophies are already popping up in English.  I think this should be like $40 over here to account for all the DLC this is sure to have.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Dynasty Warriors...Nein?
Post by: Bebpo on February 21, 2018, 02:42:45 PM
I kinda hope DW9 being a failure means more spinoffs. The spinoff series are fun even if it sometimes takes them a few games to get it right. Too bad Berserk Musou is probably not gonna get a sequel with the sales it got. Could use a One Piece Musou -> OPM2 update.

I'm guessing with the success of Zelda/FE, they probably have a team now devoted to only Nintendo franchise musou titles. Unfortunately I think some of their better talent are there, so who knows if they'll make a good non-Nintendo musou spinoff in the near future. Arslan and Berserk were not so good. DQ Heroes is ok.

Could use a quality FF musou.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Dynasty Warriors...Nein?
Post by: bork on February 21, 2018, 03:19:28 PM
There has got to be multiple teams making these games and I wish we knew who did what games so that the mediocre or crappy ones could be skipped.  :doge

My thing with Berserk is that it was just average.  Nothing horrible, but nothing amazing either and since I didn't care about the source material, I dropped it pretty quickly.  Arslan, though.

Oh man, Arslan.  :-\

If you've ever seen the anime series that came out a few years back, it absolutely screamed "musou the anime."  This would be have been perfect for it.  So I went nuts when I saw that Koei was making a game.  Imported it and found it to be the biggest piece of shit that they've released in a long, long time.  Maybe the worst one period.  Could not believe that they fucked Arslan of all things up.
:mindblown

Dragon Quest Heroes is good/great overall.  I kind of waffled on the original being tower-defense oriented but the way you can use the monster coins makes it pretty fun in the end.  DQH II went action-RPG and that's pretty awesome, too.  I never did play through it and really need to already.

I'd be down for a Final Fantasy musou.  That could work.  I still think that they should do a Jump musou.  Make it play like Warriors Orochi and have three-man teams of characters mowing down bad guys from all kinds of manga.  A Goku/Luffy/Naruto team mowing down muthafuckaz and doing team attacks?  Fuckin' gold.  Insane sales.  DO IT KOEI.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Dynasty Warriors...Nein?
Post by: bork on February 21, 2018, 03:21:07 PM
Cleared the Yellow Turban Revival in DW9.  Was playing the game via remote play on my Vita.  It actually looks great and runs smoother at 30 FPS that way.  :doge  I didn't notice that the main bad guy's throne room had these pots in it that were giving him extra power the first go-round.  Smashed them and he went down easily.  Then it unlocked a shitload of characters.

So up...some hours in and I'm still enjoying this.  Jim, what happened man, seriously?
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Dynasty Warriors...Nein?
Post by: Bebpo on February 21, 2018, 04:00:50 PM
Jump anything would be great. Kinda a shame only got those DS games. Jump Fighter by Arc Sys = awesome. Jump Musou by Koei = awesome. Jump SRW = awesome.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Dynasty Warriors...Nein?
Post by: Trent Dole on February 25, 2018, 02:00:54 AM
https://twitter.com/truongasm/status/964700690487525376
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Dynasty Warriors...Nein?
Post by: bork on February 27, 2018, 02:14:02 PM
DW9 got a big 'ol patch.

1.04:
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    Eased the conditions for unlocking officers.
    Eased conditions for sending letters from Hideaways.
    Improved the movement of soldiers and officers during battle.
    Adjusted the price of items.
    Adjusted the positioning of clusters.
    Added Watchtowers and Waymarks.
    Adjusted the hit points of gates, weapons, and buildings.
    Corrected an issue that occurred rarely in which parts of some models would break.
    Corrected an issue in which unnatural weather occurrences would not revert to their original state.
    Corrected an issue that occurred rarely in which floodgates could not be opened during chapter 4 – “Reclaim Xiapi.”
    Corrected an issue concerning the display of some rivers.
    Corrected a number of other minor issues.

The Japanese patch notes added more clarifications to some of the fixes mentioned above.

    On the conditions for unlocking officers (playable characters), it specifies that clearing the tutorial will unlock officers from the respective kingdoms. This means clearing it as Liu Bei will instantly unlock Guan Yu and Zhang Fei. Likewise, Cao Cao will unlock Xiahou Dun and Xiahou Yuan, and Sun Jian unlocks Huang Gai, Cheng Pu, and Han Dang.
    On sending letters from Hideaways, this update patch will now enable the player to send letters to officers who are participating in battles as well.
    On the positioning of clusters, this patch will now make them respawn each time the player enters a new chapter.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Dynasty Warriors...Nein?
Post by: bork on March 02, 2018, 07:57:12 AM
Maybe it's just me, but that recent DW9 patch seems to have made the game look a bit sharper and run at a more stable framerate (action mode) than before.

They weren't kidding about new characters getting unlocked much faster than before.  I loaded my game up and completed a quest, then got a ton of character unlocks.  Tried another faction and when I finished the first little 'tutorial' mission it also unlocked a crapload of characters- I went from having like three playable to 53.  :lol

Tried some other characters but it felt weird using them since their stories take place at different times.  It seems like a lot of them are basically locked to certain chapters and there's no free mode kind of thing to keep using them more.  That was a stupid design choice. 

Also dumb- I got some alternate outfits for some of the characters for pre-ordering the game.  Found out that they apparently cannot actually use these outfits when playing the game; you can only wear other clothes when inside the little villa-type houses you can buy and customize. WTF?   <<<< EDIT: This appears to be bullshit.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Dynasty Warriors...Nein?
Post by: Trent Dole on March 02, 2018, 09:58:26 AM
Also dumb- I got some alternate outfits for some of the characters for pre-ordering the game.  Found out that they apparently cannot actually use these outfits when playing the game; you can only wear other clothes when inside the little villa-type houses you can buy and customize. WTF?
lmao, that's so pointless.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Dynasty Warriors...Nein?
Post by: bork on March 02, 2018, 10:22:50 AM
OK, wait a minute.

Wait, wait, wait.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9WEECI3Rcs

This clearly shows some characters fighting in alternate costumes.  So somebody out there in Internetz land is full of shit.  Maybe it's just certain outfits (like the casual wear) that are restricted like that.
:huh

But I see no place to equip the alternate costumes so maybe you have to have a house purchased for everything?
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Dynasty Warriors...Nein?
Post by: bork on March 02, 2018, 12:09:58 PM
OK, you do need a house/hideaway to change equipped outfits in general.

Definitely a performance improvement:
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Latest patch on PS4 fixed frame rate a little bit more, made some major QoL changes like the horse not bucking at zero stamina, officers and enemies move and attack more......A LOT more. I went into a base on PS4 and there was nearly 5 times more base and assault captains than before, counters work as intended now with enemies attacking more.

Overall we have had 3 patches since launch and it’s only got more and more on par to a standard warriors game. Honestly the stories and characters feel a but more fleshed out with how everything is told. Also battles are a bit more accurate due to map design.

Overall this is slowly turning into my favorite warriors game.

Koei is actually fixing this game with patches...for once.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Dynasty Warriors 9 Getting Better With Patches!
Post by: bork on March 09, 2018, 10:07:46 AM
One Piece: Pirate Warriors 3 Deluxe Edition for Switch is getting localized and will be released in May!  One week before Hyrule Warriors.  :lol  This is the base game with all DLC and it looks and runs great on the Switch.

'Murica is getting it digital-only but Europe and Asia will get retail releases.  Guess I need to get rid of my Japanese copy now.

Hope they do the same thing with the other Switch musous...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SRAzJWlQFxA
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Dynasty Warriors 9 Getting Better With Patches!
Post by: Trent Dole on March 09, 2018, 07:43:18 PM
I would definitely get the port of Orochi 3 even more super ultimate or whatever the final expanded version is called since I've only played the 'base' version (which is still a pretty massive game) on 360.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Dynasty Warriors 9 Getting Better With Patches!
Post by: MoxManiac on March 11, 2018, 07:18:52 PM
How does it run on the Switch in portable mode?

I actually will probably rebuy OPW3 again to have it in portable form. It's funny because I loved the game despite knowing absolutely nothing about OP going in.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Dynasty Warriors 9 Getting Better With Patches!
Post by: bork on March 11, 2018, 08:33:32 PM
How does it run on the Switch in portable mode?

I actually will probably rebuy OPW3 again to have it in portable form. It's funny because I loved the game despite knowing absolutely nothing about OP going in.

Runs fantastic.  Not a surprise because the Vita version also ran really well. 
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Dynasty Warriors 9 Getting Better With Patches!
Post by: kingv on March 12, 2018, 08:33:52 AM
How does it run on the Switch in portable mode?

I actually will probably rebuy OPW3 again to have it in portable form. It's funny because I loved the game despite knowing absolutely nothing about OP going in.

I only have heard of one piece, that trailer makes it look like a really wild property.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Dynasty Warriors 9 Getting Better With Patches!
Post by: bork on March 12, 2018, 11:50:09 AM
How does it run on the Switch in portable mode?

I actually will probably rebuy OPW3 again to have it in portable form. It's funny because I loved the game despite knowing absolutely nothing about OP going in.

I only have heard of one piece, that trailer makes it look like a really wild property.

You can add me to the club- I know about One Piece and the characters, but still have yet to really sit down and read it or watch much beyond some of the movies (would like to one day!).  But the game is fantastic as a musou title.  Pirate Warriors 2 was pretty good as well.  It's only the first game that was kinda garbage.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Dynasty Warriors 9 Getting Better With Patches!
Post by: bork on March 14, 2018, 01:47:43 PM
Pre-ordered a physical copy of Pirate Warriors 3 Switch at Play-Asia.  :pimp

Attack On Titan 2 is out next week...like the original, gonna pass.  There's just something about AoT in general that I don't like.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Dynasty Warriors 9 Getting Better With Patches!
Post by: kingv on March 14, 2018, 04:55:57 PM
Is warriors pro hi ultimate 3 (or something like that) any good? I just realized I own it on xbone.

Edit: this is another example of Japanese companies being pure garbage at naming their games. Like what the fuck is a warrior orochi ultimate 3?
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: Dynasty Warriors 9 Getting Better With Patches!
Post by: bork on March 14, 2018, 05:12:13 PM
Is warriors pro hi ultimate 3 (or something like that) any good? I just realized I own it on xbone.

Edit: this is another example of Japanese companies being pure garbage at naming their games. Like what the fuck is a warrior orochi ultimate 3?

That's one of the best, if not the best musous, period.  Check this thread...praise about all over the place!  :)

I don't get what you're talking about with the name.  :lol  The game series is called "Warriors Orochi" in the west.  The "Warriors" part refers to the type of game and "Orochi" is the big bad.  Ultimate was the last and most-content packed version of the game.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: WARRIORS OROCHI ***4*** ANNOUNCED
Post by: bork on March 17, 2018, 03:27:25 PM
HOLY SHIT HOLY SHIT HOLY SHIT HOLY SHIT HOLY SHIT

Musou Orochi 3 (Warriors Orochi 4) got announced!  :o

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjOcGq-8EWA
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Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: WARRIORS OROCHI ***4*** ANNOUNCED
Post by: kingv on March 17, 2018, 05:34:51 PM
My problem with the naming is just the naming of Japanese properties in general. It’s like unless you
Mainline weeb forums it’s hard to figure out what any of that shit is.

Like, wtf kind of name is One Piece or Senran Kagura, or God Eater?

The names are just very indescriptive and don’t give many clues to what any of them actually are.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: WARRIORS OROCHI ***4*** ANNOUNCED
Post by: bork on March 17, 2018, 06:07:28 PM
If I just saw titles like "Mirror's Edge" or "Titanfall" or "Horizon Zero Dawn" I'd think the same thing. 
:idont

They also pretty much always do the "Warriors" font in the same style on all these games (Japan uses the same "Musou" font).  So someone who played Dynasty Warriors would recognize it if they saw a box for Gundam Warriors or Warriors Orochi.  I also can't think of many other games with those spear-wielding dudes on them.

One Piece- The name of a big, legendary pirate treasure.  Explained in the intro to the TV show.  Anyone familiar with that series knows what it is and One Piece is pretty big.

God Eater- The term describes the protagonists who can use the weapons in the game to kill the monsters, from what I understand.  Never played it.

Senran Kagura- A bit more complex.  "Kagura" is the highest rank a ninja can achieve and this is a game about ninja girls fighting each other.  It's the "senran" part that is up for debate.  It's not a normal Japanese word AFAIK.  "Sen" is flash and "Ran" is revolt/rebellion/war.  So usually people kind of say it as "flash war/uprising to be Kagura" or whatever.  The anime version uses the subtitle "Ninja Flash!" which probably would have made for a good localized title, but they decided to keep the original title. 

I also saw a post suggesting that "senran" (閃乱) could be a word play on "inran" (淫乱), which means "lewd."  Knowing the game's perverted producer, that makes a whole a lot of sense.  :lol

Now go play Warriors Orochi 3
:bolo
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: WARRIORS OROCHI ***4*** ANNOUNCED
Post by: kingv on March 17, 2018, 07:01:30 PM
Yeah, I guess western titles are just as bad. Maybe it’s just that weeb games don’t get the advertising budget, so I never know what they are.

I’ll get to orochi soon!

I need to beat yakuza kiwami soon. I need Nishiki to have redemption. I’m tired of seeing him bow to everyone and crying.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: WARRIORS OROCHI ***4*** ANNOUNCED
Post by: MoxManiac on March 18, 2018, 05:55:47 PM
HOLY SHIT HOLY SHIT HOLY SHIT HOLY SHIT HOLY SHIT

Musou Orochi 3 (Warriors Orochi 4) got announced!  :o

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjOcGq-8EWA
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DYfIMwxVwAEw2gc.jpg)

DW9 newcomers in an actual good game? I hope so!  :hyper
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: WARRIORS OROCHI ***4*** ANNOUNCED
Post by: bork on March 18, 2018, 07:03:28 PM
Didn't like DW9, Mox?
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: WARRIORS OROCHI ***4*** ANNOUNCED
Post by: Trent Dole on March 19, 2018, 01:51:51 AM
Western release this year confirmed as well. https://gematsu.com/2018/03/warriors-orochi-4-coming-west-2018
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: WARRIORS OROCHI ***4*** ANNOUNCED
Post by: Svejk on March 19, 2018, 07:48:06 PM
 :betty

https://youtu.be/-z5PbO2_rAY
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: WARRIORS OROCHI ***4*** ANNOUNCED
Post by: bork on March 19, 2018, 08:44:11 PM
 :lol  They already have movies like that though.  ???
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: WARRIORS OROCHI ***4*** ANNOUNCED
Post by: archie4208 on March 21, 2018, 09:58:20 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jr3wVVYi6k0

Hyrule Warriors at 60 FPS.  It's like I've died and gone to heaven.  :lawd
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: WARRIORS OROCHI ***4*** ANNOUNCED
Post by: Trent Dole on March 22, 2018, 02:43:58 AM
Take the 0 away and that's about the framerate legends runs at a lot of the time on my 2DS. :-[
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: WARRIORS OROCHI ***4*** ANNOUNCED
Post by: bork on March 22, 2018, 08:06:10 AM
Take the 0 away and that's about the framerate legends runs at a lot of the time on my 2DS. :-[

Wow  :lol

They should have made that N3DS-only, lol.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: WARRIORS OROCHI ***4*** ANNOUNCED
Post by: Svejk on March 22, 2018, 10:22:35 AM
Wonder what the fps will be with split screen. 
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: WARRIORS OROCHI ***4*** ANNOUNCED
Post by: MoxManiac on March 24, 2018, 02:04:23 PM
Is it 60fps in portable mode too?
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: WARRIORS OROCHI ***4*** ANNOUNCED
Post by: bork on May 02, 2018, 07:27:57 AM
Robin Hood and Francis Drake in Fate/EXTELLA Link!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ifqxTh0EZ7E

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VPUftyUPebk

Holy shit at her move set!  :lol
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: WARRIORS OROCHI ***4*** ANNOUNCED
Post by: Svejk on May 02, 2018, 08:42:53 AM
Bork, How's that DW9 going.  Sounds like it's fallen off the map already.  :doge
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: WARRIORS OROCHI ***4*** ANNOUNCED
Post by: bork on May 02, 2018, 08:51:56 AM
Bork, How's that DW9 going.  Sounds like it's fallen off the map already.  :doge

Too much going on and not enough time to play all these games.  :'(

Am waiting to see what the upcoming DLC is going to do.  They're adding more weapons in, which has already set off Jim Sterling.  :lol
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: WARRIORS OROCHI ***4*** ANNOUNCED
Post by: bork on May 09, 2018, 07:45:58 AM
Warriors 4 info!

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Update 05/08/18 at 11:39 p.m.: A few additional details have come in.

 A PC version of Warriors Orochi 4 will also be released, albeit at a later date than the console versions in Japan.

Of the 170 playable characters in Warriors Orochi 4, five are new and have still yet to be revealed. The enemy this time is Zeus. The five new characters are likely to be chosen from the Twelve Olympians such as Athena and Poseidon.

The new “Divine Art Action” system adds new elements such as Divine Arts and Deification.

Collaboration characters such as Ryu Hayabusa will not appear in the game.

Quote
Update 05/09/18 at 12:35 a.m.: More details have come in.

Summary: The heroes who defeated Orochi returned to the places where they belong. All of their memories were lost. However, their worlds will once again come together. The eight bangles are the keys to return to their original worlds. And it appears that Zeus is behind it all. What is his purpose?

    Equipping the sacred treasures enables the use of Divine Arts. These have various effects, such as attacks that round up several enemies.

    One of the new stages is in the style of the Parthenon temple in Greece.

    Collaboration characters will not appear in the game because the goal is to return to roots and greater depict the relationship between the Warring States and Sengoku periods.

    Yoshitaka Murayama is supervising the game’s setting and story.

    Orochi will be a key player this time. Orochi and True Orochi exist simultaneously. The details are still a secret.

    Familiar controls, like Square + Square, and Square + Square + Triangle, will return.

    By progressing through the “Deification” story, key characters will become available for use, and by meeting certain conditions during battle, their appearance and actiosn will power up.

    The game uses a three person per group system.

    Elements like Free Mode will be included.

    Share multiplayer (likely meaning one Joy-Con per player) is still under consideration for the Switch version, mainly because there is a lack of buttons.

    Warriors Orochi 4 is targeting a fall release in Japan. Development is currently 50 percent complete.

Seems all good with the exception of them leaving out guest characters.  That sucks.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: WARRIORS OROCHI ***4*** ANNOUNCED
Post by: Svejk on May 09, 2018, 10:44:21 AM
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    Warriors Orochi 4 is targeting a fall release in Japan. Development is currently 50 percent complete.
:what 
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: WARRIORS OROCHI ***4*** ANNOUNCED
Post by: bork on May 09, 2018, 01:32:59 PM
It's an Omega Force joint which means recycled assets up the wazoo.  I'm sure it will make it.
:idont

Something that comes to mind about the lack of guest characters- watch Koei exclude them from the base game but then offer them as DLC.  :-\
:rage
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: WARRIORS OROCHI ***4*** ANNOUNCED
Post by: Bebpo on May 09, 2018, 09:41:17 PM
Yeah, even when these games have declining sales, the budget on them has got to be pretty small. They just crank them out in a year each re-using tons of assets. When they were selling at their prime, you can bet Koei was getting rich on these games.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: WARRIORS OROCHI ***4*** ANNOUNCED
Post by: bork on May 10, 2018, 11:01:44 AM
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Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: WARRIORS OROCHI ***4*** ANNOUNCED
Post by: Trent Dole on May 10, 2018, 04:57:57 PM
:lawd them screens.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: WARRIORS OROCHI ***4*** ANNOUNCED
Post by: bork on June 06, 2018, 10:55:22 PM
Fate/Extella Link is out in Japan on PS4 and Vita.  I picked up the digital PS4 version since the American release isn't due out until Winter.

The game looks like it got a pretty nice overhaul from the original and looks a lot nicer.  I'm just doing the beginning tutorial area but it's already showing more depth since they've added a number of attacks (you can now press R1 to bring up a menu of four special moves to select) for each character, increased the roster, and even added 4P co-op online multiplayer.  Good stuff!

EDIT:

Did a couple more levels.  Man, they really improved this game in pretty much every way possible over the original!  Just about every complaint I had about the first game has been addressed here.  Don't know if there's going to be more than one story route, but unlike the original, it appears to be one big story with multiple playable characters.  No more sticking with one servant for the entire storyline and you can select who you want to use between levels!  I've generally been skipping the story but they've put more effort into even the visual novel stuff and it seems to be more streamlined now.  In-between levels, you play as the master character and can walk around a little base camp area and interact with servants, upgrade skills, change characters, and more. 

In-game, you travel between zones and conquer them like in the original, but you no longer have to fight the enemy for the key/music note-looking items (forget what they were called) and instead it appears to be all about the combat, which is a welcome change.  I don't miss some levels taking hours to complete because the enemy would get the upper hand in one zone and I'd race over to it only to find they took over another one on the other side of the map over and over again.  Your new moves allow you to kick a lot more ass more quickly.  There's also better enemy variety this time around including "shadow servant" enemy clones of the main characters to fight.

This game looks absolutely gorgeous and is a huge upgrade over the first game visually.  I really wonder how the Vita port is- it has got to be a big downgrade in this area.  I don't think there's any footage or even screenshots of it up anywhere yet, which makes me wonder if it's a shit port.

So yeah, this is a big surprise to me.  Am really impressed with how much it has been improved over the first game!  Hoping this gets a Switch port by the time the English version is released too.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: WARRIORS OROCHI ***4*** ANNOUNCED
Post by: bork on June 07, 2018, 09:41:32 AM
Curiosity got the best of me- downloading the Vita version now. 
:stahp
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: WARRIORS OROCHI ***4*** ANNOUNCED
Post by: bork on June 07, 2018, 10:15:23 AM
Well shit- the Vita version is pretty good!
:leon

Obvious big visual downgrade and looks on par with the first game.  Noticeably lower framerate and less enemies on-screen, but I'm pretty sure there's still more than the first game and the game plays smoother on there.  They did some changes to the button mappings to make up for the lack of L2 and R2, but it all works pretty well.  Good job, Marvelous.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: WARRIORS OROCHI ***4*** ANNOUNCED
Post by: bork on June 08, 2018, 03:17:16 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HhlrUyQa-bU
 :gladbron
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: WARRIORS OROCHI ***4*** ANNOUNCED
Post by: Trent Dole on June 19, 2018, 04:27:45 AM
https://youtu.be/jDr1mW_8exw
October 16th :hyper
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: WARRIORS OROCHI ***4*** ANNOUNCED
Post by: bork on June 19, 2018, 07:10:29 AM
Only a couple of weeks after the Japanese version...awesome!  Dunno if I'm gonna be able to hold out but I'll try.  :lol

Switch version:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQatbcQksCA

They're aiming for 60 FPS and 720P undocked/1080P docked, so that means obvious visual downgrade, but it basically looks like a PS3 musou so that's OK with me.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: WARRIORS OROCHI ***4*** ANNOUNCED
Post by: bork on September 21, 2018, 09:46:25 PM
Orochi 4's "godspeed" version is up now for J-PSN pre-orders.  Lets you play the first 10 chapters of the game and 30 characters a week before release, IIRC.

Some footage.  Looks to be running nice and smooth on PS4, thankfully.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LlcMPmAfjO0

Am passing on importing this since the American version is only a few weeks after the official release next week.
Title: Re: Warriors/Basara Thread: WARRIORS OROCHI ***4*** ANNOUNCED
Post by: bork on September 28, 2018, 07:37:23 AM
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170 characters!
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: Trent Dole on October 01, 2018, 05:23:15 PM
About two weeks away for NA :hyper Wait how are they outdoing 3 for character # if it's primarily Dynasty/Samurai people. :thinking
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: Himu on October 01, 2018, 05:32:30 PM
zeus is so hot

fuck me zeus
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: Tektonic on October 03, 2018, 12:17:02 AM
wait fate etc series is musou? or only extella? time to get the vita out..
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: bork on October 03, 2018, 08:21:50 AM
wait fate etc series is musou? or only extella? time to get the vita out..

Fate/Extella and its sequel Fate/Extella Link (coming out in English next year!) are the only two musou-type games in the series.  Extella is a sequel of sorts to Fate Extra on the PSP but you don't need to have played it to play Extella.

If you have a capable PC, PS4, or Switch, I'd get Extella on those platforms over Vita for performance reasons.  Extella Link is a nice improvement on the original, but I'd recommend playing Extella first since the story is a direct continuation.
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on October 07, 2018, 09:53:36 PM
I've been grindan away on Hyrule Warriors for Switch and I'm getting pretty bored/tired of all of the dumb rules on the adventure mode.  I don't like to ignore large swaths of content but I think I'm going to have to make an exception for this one.  Also some of the characters really suck and being forced to play as some of them in some of these levels is a huge pain in the ass, regardless of what level they are at or how powerful their weapons are.  I definitely consider Fire Emblem Warriors to be the superior Musou game.  Game clock shows I've put in over 90 hours in this game and I think it would be 200+ if I go through all of the stages.  Not worth it in my opinion.
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: bork on October 16, 2018, 05:00:35 PM
OROCHI 4 IS OUT GONNA PLAY NOW
:phil
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: bork on October 16, 2018, 05:03:17 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U4E1e65V0F8

:hyper
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: bork on October 16, 2018, 09:31:39 PM
Warriors Orochi 4 impressions after playing for a bit:

-Got this on the Switch.  For the most part, it looks and runs really well (docked).  Appears to be running at 1080P and runs at 30 FPS with dips here and there.  Looks on par with Samurai Warriors 4 on PS3, I.E. has some pretty nice character models.  Some stages may have more dips than others.  IIRC it's 60 FPS on Steam, Xbone, and on PS4.  Have already seen some complaints about the PC port so would recommend checking this out on the consoles to be on the safe side. 

-There's two game modes- Story and Battle Arena.  Battle Arena is a 2P vs. (or 1P vs. the CPU) game where you run around a small battlefield trying to conquer and hold onto points throughout.  For whatever reason, this mode runs noticeably worse than the Story mode does, even though there's way less going on and the map is much smaller.  Weird.

-Saw some complaints on Steam that the game seems lower budget than WO3, that it's missing cut scenes and the like, and has no connection to the previous games.  This is 100% bullshit.  It still has movie cut scenes, mentions the events of the previous game right in the beginning, and it's easily on par with WO3 so far from a quality standpoint.

-There's no more camp area where you walk around.  Instead it's menu-based and works much faster because of it.  You can also do mock battles inbetween levels to test out character moves and new abilities.

-The game plays in the 'old school' musou style, I.E. just like WO3 and on set maps.  No Dynasty Warriors 9 type open-world or completely changed up gameplay going on here.  Initially it feels just like WO3, although the Samurai Warriors cast play like their SW4 versions. 

-After you clear the intro stage and start playing the first "real" level, however, the characters get magic items, which give you three unique special attacks to use for each character (and an additional magic gauge, which autofills pretty quickly and drains a bit for weak attacks, takes a whole gauge for strong attacks, and takes the whole gauge plus the musou gauge for the strongest attacks), basically giving the game a kind of Sengoku Basara play style (or DW9...in a good way!) and giving you even more attacks to use for combos.  Combine this with switching characters in the middle of combos and you can go nuts! :hyper 

-Was wondering where mounts were initially.  They're now part of the magic system and can be summoned!

Back to it!
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: bork on October 16, 2018, 09:57:09 PM
Sun Quan's medium magic attack is a Kamehameha blast!  :lol

:bow This game :bow2
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: bork on October 16, 2018, 11:58:06 PM
Seven-man group magic attacks
 :dsp
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: Trent Dole on October 17, 2018, 01:51:52 AM
Downloading now! :hyper
But my card might be too low for it. :doge
I'll just run it on minimum. :teehee
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: Trent Dole on October 17, 2018, 04:09:24 AM
Seems to run fine, game is an Orochi, which means it's friggin great.
Seven-man group magic attacks
 :dsp
Shit is hilarious, love all the new absurd special moves everyone has.
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: bork on October 17, 2018, 07:32:09 AM
I love how they all do different poses like a group of Power Rangers :lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wb0oS7ELZAs
:lawd
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: bork on October 17, 2018, 07:39:08 AM
Koei just announced Dynasty Warriors 8: Xtreme Legends Complete Edition DX for Switch.  Out in Japan in December- Guess they realized they forgot to port that over.  Wonder if Samurai Warriors 4 or 4-II are next?   :lol
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: Svejk on October 17, 2018, 08:57:25 AM
Dynasty Warriors 8: Xtreme Legends Complete Edition DX
 :dead
Any other subtitles they can throw in there?  :doge
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: bork on October 17, 2018, 12:09:47 PM
Should be "Dynasty Warriors 8 XL: Now Including All The Shit We Sold As DLC That Should Have Been Free LOL We Charged Like $50 For OUTFITS Ha Ha Edition"
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: Trent Dole on October 17, 2018, 03:58:39 PM
Should be "Dynasty Warriors 8 XL: Now Including All The Shit We Sold As DLC That Should Have Been Free LOL We Charged Like $50 For OUTFITS Ha Ha Edition"
$50 you say? Doing some quick maths ( :teehee ) via the DW8XL Steam page outfit pack DLC adds up to about $89. :lol
Costume DLC is generally for suckers, but I'll admit I'm probably going to do the WO4 Season Pass since it includes some more scenarios and those separately will end up costing about the same so may as well do the few bucks extra for some dumb outfits/mounts/etc. :doge
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: bork on October 17, 2018, 05:59:44 PM
Should be "Dynasty Warriors 8 XL: Now Including All The Shit We Sold As DLC That Should Have Been Free LOL We Charged Like $50 For OUTFITS Ha Ha Edition"
$50 you say? Doing some quick maths ( :teehee ) via the DW8XL Steam page outfit pack DLC adds up to about $89. :lol
Costume DLC is generally for suckers, but I'll admit I'm probably going to do the WO4 Season Pass since it includes some more scenarios and those separately will end up costing about the same so may as well do the few bucks extra for some dumb outfits/mounts/etc. :doge

I already got the season pass for it. 
 :woooo

spoiler (click to show/hide)
And all the outfits that were put up
 :joker
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Most of the outfit sets for sale kinda suck.  The SW cast just get a bunch of yukata and that's it.  I'm sure they're going to be selling more recycled outfits later on for suckers like me.
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on October 20, 2018, 07:09:39 AM
I managed to play a couple of hours of this game on the switch.  WO3 was one of my favorite games of all time and I liked what I saw from WO4.  I hope to dig in deeper these next few days.
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: bork on October 22, 2018, 09:47:17 AM
Am currently into Chapter 4 and loving the hell out of the game.   My go-to character ended up being Kai, who I've never really used too much before.  Her magic attack is water-based and IMO anyone with this kind of magic is a top-tier character because of it.  The R+Y magic attack for these characters surrounds them with a water field that attacks enemies non-stop until it dissipates.  You can take out multiple officers and magic enemies with ease and keep doing normal attacks/musous or even switch to another character while this is going on.  Feels OP as hell.  :lol  I have her a good 15-ish levels higher than everyone else and have a maxed-out weapon...she's basically an unstoppable tank so I just use two other characters to get leveled or check out their movesets and then bring out Kai to clean house or stop a more powerful officer. 

Tried one of the Hundun stages (he pops up and then a random cleared stage will have a special "Pandemonium" difficulty level available) and got whupped pretty quick.  Did OK with Kai in there but you don't heal so I ended up taking too much damage and got KO'd after switching characters. 

Is it just me or did they really spread out the character unlocks this time around?  I remember getting the majority of the characters in Warriors Orochi 3 much faster than how things have been progressing here.  Crazy that after so many levels I still am missing 'normal' characters.  I forgot Zhao Yun was even in the game -lol- until he popped up as an enemy and then didn't get him until sometime the next chapter IIRC. 
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: bork on October 25, 2018, 08:58:54 AM
More Warriors Orochi 4:

Checked for updates yesterday and a patch installed that added a challenge mode, the DLC levels from the season pass, and some extra outfits.  I bet this was up like a day or two after the game released.  :lol :dizzy

Still getting new stuff unlocked- now some (I assume everyone after they hit a certain level) characters have additional magic weapons you can equip!  Same style of magic but different attacks.  Seems to make the magic more like some other types of magic weapons, I.E. I changed Kunoichi's and her wind magic now functions the same way as Kai's, Honda's, and Xing Cai's water magic, I.E. super-awesome and useful.

And now the story is introducing Norse mythology into the mix and Loki has popped up.  It really would have been nice to have had way more Greek and Norse gods in this game instead of the small handful they have now.  Would have preferred more of them as new characters, plus the guest characters from WO3 and WAS instead of it being 90% DW and SW.  Still doesn't stop the game from being a fuckin' blast in the end at least.

And still don't have everyone playable.  Some characters haven't even shown up in the game at all yet!
:dead

I also like that one of the enemy officers who shows up is named Kratos, lol. :doge
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on October 28, 2018, 08:10:10 AM
I've been so busy that I finally got a chance to spend most of yesterday afternoon playing this game.  Finished the second chapter.  One thing I noticed is that for the higher difficulty levels, if you want to S rank the level, you are pretty much depending on using magic the whole time.  The game so far appears to have cut out most of the fluff outside of the levels themselves, which I think is a positive change from WO3.  The biggest gripe I have is that when you have a low level character, it feels like the game is a slideshow.  I'm playing it docked on the Switch which yeah I know it's going to be the inferior version but it seems like after you build your character level up high enough, the "slideshow" effect seemingly goes away.
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: bork on October 28, 2018, 01:20:28 PM
The biggest gripe I have is that when you have a low level character, it feels like the game is a slideshow.  I'm playing it docked on the Switch which yeah I know it's going to be the inferior version but it seems like after you build your character level up high enough, the "slideshow" effect seemingly goes away.

Do you mean the framerate?  Can't say I noticed that- some stages are just worse-performing than others.  Doesn't have anything to do with character levels.
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: bork on October 29, 2018, 10:39:53 AM
Am still missing some characters in Warriors Orochi 4.  Got some more in the last couple of stages including a few that I forget even existed.  :lol  At this point I'm still waiting to try the actual new characters who have been added and would really like to get SW4 favorite Koshoushou added.  I think I'm close to hitting Chapter 5 and she pops up in the first side stage that unlocks after finishing the first level of that chapter.  It's pretty insane how spaced out some of these character unlocks are.  I just got Cao Cao in a recent level and he's a pretty big part of the DW games.
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: bork on October 31, 2018, 09:34:50 AM
Am now several stages into Chapter 5 and still don't have everyone unlocked yet.  :lol  Did finally get my girl Koshoushou at least.  :heart  Was thinking that Athena would be playable once she joined the good guys' side, but nope...just like Perseus, she's staying an NPC for now.  Am told that I should be close to getting one of them playable soon at least.

Chapter 5 has also been ramping up the amount of stage unlocks.  Got two new stages after finishing one, plus another two side stories.  Why they didn't space things out more in the previous chapters is beyond me.

My thoughts on the game overall haven't changed much:

+ The game play is just awesome.  Magic gives you more moves and it's a welcome addition!
+ So many characters to play as!  Just about everyone has a fun move set.
+ Tons of weapons and weapon enhancements are available.
+ They make it pretty easy to level characters up between stages.  With enough built-up experience points, you can take a newly-unlocked character and get him/her up like 15-20+ levels and give them some nice weapon enhancements.
+ Characters can be further upgraded to get additional abilities like air musous.
+ The new "monster" type enemies are welcome and some of them are huge, but more variety would have been nice.

- Stage recycling is insane.  They don't just re-use levels from other Warriors games, but you'll end up playing on the same maps multiple times. 
- I've seen one actual new level so far that had an ancient-Greece theme to it.
- For a game that has Greek and Norse gods as the big-bads, you'd think that there would at least be more of those themes in the levels, but instead you get the same Chinese/Japanese-style levels and Koei just threw in some visible Greek-style buildings off in the distance.  :lol
- Magic-based enemies are annoying.  For example, there's a "chaos" enemy officer type who doesn't attack, but if in the area, will summon magic grunt soldiers and/or add magic protection to regular enemies and officers so that regular attacks won't hurt them.  Magic kills these guys quick so most of the time they're just a minor useless annoyance as you wait to fill up meter to take them out.  Maybe they're more of a threat on higher difficulty levels.
- You have to buy DLC to get additional game modes and even extra magic abilities for characters.  This is the kind of thing that should have been free.
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on October 31, 2018, 10:16:08 PM
I hate that I'm so busy right now with work and my girlfriend that I can't really dig into this game.  I guess I'm going to have to vicariously live through your playthrough, bork.
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: bork on November 01, 2018, 07:42:18 AM
LOL, works out for me since my wife tends to go to bed early, so around 8-9...off I go.  Hoping to beat the game today but I still have the DLC levels to go through and more should be coming this month. 

Felt leveled up enough to try a Hundun stage and took him out in just a couple of hits, but then got owned and lost to some non-officer types.
:dead

Finally got NEW CHARACTERS  :o :o :o to play as with Athena and Ares.  Both are super-fun and have some cool move sets- Athena generates huge "light-blade" style discs and beams and Ares can call out a huge dragon to ride around on.  Just made me wish they had been playable much earlier that much more.  :'(
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: bork on November 01, 2018, 11:55:48 PM
Finished the game.  Or rather, finished playing through the story mode.  Unsure how long it took, but the Switch says it was played for 30 hours or more.

Clearing the game unlocked chaotic difficulty, unique weapons, some more characters, and two more side stages (why I have no idea...they're nothing post-game related), but funnily enough...that's STILL not all of the characters playable!  :lol 
:dead

I think I have 4-5 more to unlock.  You apparently get them by leveling up your camp more, plus you gotta fight and defeat Hundun when he pops up post-game.  Out of those, at least one of them (or both if both her forms are in there) is not in the game at all, story-wise. 

So I still have one side stage and then five DLC stages to do before messing around in chaotic and seeing about getting some weapons.  Dunno how much of that I'm gonna do with so many other games to play. 

Was absolutely addicted to this game until I finished it just now.  Bring on the next musou! :hyper
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on November 03, 2018, 03:00:51 PM
I played a few hours today.  I'm in Chapter Three and even on the easy difficulty setting, the game has some challenge to it.  I also got spoiled by Hyrule and Fire Emblem Warriors allowing you to keep EXP if you have to restart a stage or exit a stage.  I think it is BS that they don't have it here :maf
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: bork on November 03, 2018, 03:06:18 PM
easy difficulty setting

 :noooo
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: Trent Dole on November 03, 2018, 05:34:05 PM
Ha I've been steamrolling things on normal, but then I'm only on chapter 2.
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on November 03, 2018, 10:40:04 PM
easy difficulty setting

 :noooo

I start off on the Easy setting and then replay it again on Normal and then again on Hard and if a Chaos-type difficulty is available, play it again there.  Yes, I don't consider a playthrough complete until I beat it four times.
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: bork on November 03, 2018, 11:22:42 PM
Why easy though?  It's generally easy enough the first time through on normal in these games.
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: BobFromPikeCreek on November 06, 2018, 04:21:30 PM
Pandemonium Mode is hard :'( It keeps landing on the longest most difficult missions.
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: Himu on November 06, 2018, 04:49:27 PM
Is WO4 legit?
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: bork on November 06, 2018, 08:31:05 PM
Is WO4 legit?

Look at all those posts I made above about it.  :rogan


.....


YES IT KICKS ASS

I still think that WO3 Ultimate is the all-time classic but this one is right behind it.  Tons of fun.
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on November 11, 2018, 06:42:55 PM
Got some time this weekend to finish Chapter 4.

I agree with bork that I give the edge to Warriors Orochi 3 Ultimate but this is probably the next best Musou game.  With Fire Emblem Warriors rounding out the top 3.
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: Himu on November 12, 2018, 03:32:14 AM
how is WO3U better
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: bork on November 12, 2018, 09:33:59 PM
how is WO3U better

More level variety, better character selection (because of all the guest characters), and better progression (unlocks and such), IMO.
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on November 17, 2018, 10:25:18 PM
Those challenges can be so frustrating because some of those timed events I miss them by a couple of seconds :maf

Also I'm kicking myself for not bringing on Gan Ning earlier.  His magic attacks cut through enemies like a hot knife through butter.
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: bork on November 17, 2018, 10:37:49 PM
So many great characters
:lawd
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on November 21, 2018, 09:53:52 PM
Completed the game and side story chapters on both Easy and Normal.  Currently debating whether to go back and beat the game again with Hard and Chaotic settings.  I really liked the "fuck it" factor in WO3 Ultimate that is really missing here.  Remember those really crazy chapters that got added on WO3U?  That would have been good to have in here, especially if we were fighting Greek Gods.  I think that is the downside is that it is too tame for my preferences.  I'm sure there will be various additions to WO4 over time so maybe I'll get my wish.
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: bork on November 22, 2018, 09:38:46 AM
I need to check to see if the second batch of DLC side stories have been added yet.  Not sure what's in the pipeline for this game after that.  They're still focusing a lot on Dynasty Warriors 9.
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: bork on November 22, 2018, 09:41:13 AM
11/29 for the next scenario pack.
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on November 23, 2018, 04:11:29 PM
Finished all of the DLC campaigns, unlocked everything for the camp upgrades, got Hundun (which was really easy thanks to Gan Ning's magic attacks), and am halfway through Chapter 3 for getting S ranks on all difficulty levels.  I think once the next DLC campaign comes out, I will complete it and then move on.  I have a large backlog.  Switch gaming log shows that I've spent over 65 hours on this game.  Sounds about right.
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: bork on November 23, 2018, 04:12:07 PM
Finished all of the DLC campaigns, unlocked everything for the camp upgrades, got Hundun (which was really easy thanks to Gan Ning's magic attacks), and am halfway through Chapter 3 for getting S ranks on all difficulty levels.  I think once the next DLC campaign comes out, I will complete it and then move on.  I have a large backlog.  Switch gaming log shows that I've spent over 65 hours on this game.  Sounds about right.

:bow :bow2
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on November 29, 2018, 09:41:28 PM
There was supposed to be some DLC to come out today and I didn't see it.  Was anyone else able to download it on Switch?  I was hoping to just catass the new stages and put this game to rest.
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: bork on November 29, 2018, 10:51:59 PM
There was supposed to be some DLC to come out today and I didn't see it.  Was anyone else able to download it on Switch?  I was hoping to just catass the new stages and put this game to rest.

I have them- didn't see them on the DLC list but I have the season pass, downloaded a game update, and they popped up.  Koei also added an additional challenge mode.
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: Svejk on November 30, 2018, 12:47:24 PM
What does this mean...
https://www.gamecity.ne.jp/new20181206/
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: Trent Dole on December 01, 2018, 02:30:02 AM
Something on December 6? :thinking
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on December 01, 2018, 11:53:36 AM
There was supposed to be some DLC to come out today and I didn't see it.  Was anyone else able to download it on Switch?  I was hoping to just catass the new stages and put this game to rest.

I have them- didn't see them on the DLC list but I have the season pass, downloaded a game update, and they popped up.  Koei also added an additional challenge mode.

For some reason the DLC didn't download until this morning.

I beat all the new DLC stages but the DW vs. SW stage takes forever.  Racked up about 14,000 KOs though :doge

Now I can finally put this game to rest.  I maintain my earlier opinion that WO3 Ultimate is still by far the better Musou game.  I like a lot of things about WO4 but I'd like to see them take the ideas to another level or two.  Highly recommend buying it.
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: bork on December 01, 2018, 10:53:11 PM
If that announcement is a musou game, it's probably going to be a new Samurai Warriors.
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on December 02, 2018, 12:36:48 PM
I'm ready for a Samurai Warriors 5
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: bork on December 03, 2018, 05:44:13 AM
Sengoku Musou 4DX just got announced for Switch and PS4.  :thinking
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: Trent Dole on December 03, 2018, 05:54:33 AM
If that's the announcement then :doge
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: bork on December 03, 2018, 07:48:09 AM
If that's the announcement then :doge

Nah, the announcement is still a few days away.   :)
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: bork on December 03, 2018, 08:53:27 AM
The teaser site now shows horses, so this is either a musou title or Winning Post Deathmatch 2018.
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: Trent Dole on December 04, 2018, 02:56:16 AM
Oh man I hope it's a horse racing sim so all the western fans will roll their eyes in disappointment and irritance. :lol
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: bork on December 04, 2018, 07:20:41 AM
Oh man I hope it's a horse racing sim so all the western fans will roll their eyes in disappointment and irritance. :lol

That seems to be more likely the case now.  :lol
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: bork on December 05, 2018, 07:51:27 AM
It's Winning Post 9
:neogaf
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: Svejk on December 05, 2018, 09:38:37 AM
Dem horses spit dat hot FIYA.  :doge
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: bork on December 05, 2018, 10:23:27 AM
Dem horses spit dat hot FIYA.  :doge

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tl_fSF5ZRoU

spoiler (click to show/hide)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=koD971N1j1w
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Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: Himu on December 05, 2018, 01:50:21 PM
samurai warriors 2 hd ps4 plz
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: bork on December 05, 2018, 07:47:41 PM
samurai warriors 2 hd ps4 plz

They already did this...on PS3 and Vita.  :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kNE-OFB7I70

Looks and runs better than the PS3 Samurai Warriors 3 port!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yL9bCpMVEOw

:dead
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: Himu on December 05, 2018, 08:10:06 PM
That’s why I said ps4 and they never released it in english and although I know Japanese I am not confident in playing a Musou in the language.
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: Svejk on December 05, 2018, 09:39:13 PM
Some Winning Post 9 leaked images...
spoiler (click to show/hide)
(https://thumbs.gfycat.com/VillainousHiddenIberianchiffchaff-small.gif)

(https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/593/401/5a9.gif)

(https://media.giphy.com/media/vVkjJVHHcc8vu/giphy.gif)
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Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: bork on December 05, 2018, 09:56:49 PM
WHERE IS POONIKINS WARRIORS!?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rt4p9A-U4Ko

:bow :bow2
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: bork on December 06, 2018, 09:15:18 AM
Koei just released Dynasty Warriors 7: Xtreme Legends Definitive Edition on Steam.  That's pretty random.  :lol

https://store.steampowered.com/app/968790/DYNASTY_WARRIORS_7_Xtreme_Legends_Definitive_Edition___with__DX/

Not sure I'd want to go back to 7.  8 was way more fun.
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: Himu on December 06, 2018, 10:09:47 AM
DW7 awww

The game that got me into Musou. :heartbeat

DW8XL is one of my favorite Musou games. I need to replay one day.

I’m also willing to give SW4 another chance but they really did DW-size SW and SW was my favorite Musou series. I haven’t bought a Musou since SW4 :( It really disappointed me.
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: Himu on December 06, 2018, 02:44:06 PM
Installed DW8XL Complete on Steam. I could never run it well on my old computer. This runs like butter. And I still love Musou. Hate the rock paper scissors crap in DW8 still because all you have to do is switch to a different weapon and beat the shit out of them until you still a blitz and kill them but it was really fun.

Here's hoping WO4 doesn't have a rush/blitz mechanic.

Hyrule Warriors will be my first Warriors game since SW4.
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: Himu on December 06, 2018, 02:55:21 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4u3Kf274iOk

DW9 looks :lol
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: Trent Dole on December 09, 2018, 12:14:06 AM
$20 is a more than fair price and since I've only played vanilla 7 on 360 I'll jump on that some day, but for now I've still barely played Orochi 4. :doge
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: bork on December 09, 2018, 09:58:38 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4u3Kf274iOk

DW9 looks :lol

It's not anywhere near as bad as he makes it out to be and they patched it quite a bit (adding more content) since then.  Still, it's very different than the other games and has some pretty glaring flaws.  Going open-world was a mistake.
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: Himu on December 27, 2018, 12:47:47 AM
Holy crap.

I got SW4-2 on sale on Steam because I really had the Samu itch. I bought it with reservation because I didn’t like SW4. And if I didn’t like it I’d get a refund.

But I just cleared a few maps and it’s fixed every issue I had with the orignal.

The lack of large objective based gameplay that was trademark of Samurai warriors gameplay, the hyper attacks which made the game mindless, the small maps. This has done everything to correct that. I’m playing on easy and clearing it like how Olivia does and I’m having so much fun.

Good shit. I missed you SW. it even has survival mode from SW2.
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: Himu on December 27, 2018, 01:55:21 AM
Omfg survival OWNS. This is true Samurai Warriors and not that watered down dog shit 4 was. I’m so glad I just took a gamble on this! :hyper

I played this game for three hours tonight. :hyper MUSOU!
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: bork on December 27, 2018, 07:14:41 AM
:rejoice

spoiler (click to show/hide)
BUT WHY EASY MODE
 :rage
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The survival mode in 4-II is actually lifted right from Samurai Warriors Chronicles 3 (3DS/Vita), IIRC.  SW4 spawned the following games, because Koei gonna Koei:

SW4
SW Chronicles 3
SW 4-II
SW4 Empires
SW4 Spirit Of Sanada

I still have yet to play the last one at all. 
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: bork on December 27, 2018, 07:15:58 AM
Dynasty Warriors 8XL Complete Edition is up on the Switch eShop now. 
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: Nintex on December 27, 2018, 07:24:28 AM
Playing the Fire Emblem Warriors game. My first 'Warriors' since that Ninety Nine Nights rip off from Xbox.

I'm enjoying it quite a bit but it feels like a game best played in short bursts. Otherwise it could get boring rather quickly.
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: Himu on December 27, 2018, 08:36:42 AM
Easy mode to see what the game has to offer at its lowest. Turning on normal today.

All this game needs is the officer entrance/death/retreat movies from old SW. I really can’t wait to start playing it again!
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: bork on December 27, 2018, 08:41:52 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-K5CeXp4JM
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: bork on December 27, 2018, 08:43:01 AM
Playing the Fire Emblem Warriors game. My first 'Warriors' since that Ninety Nine Nights rip off from Xbox.

I'm enjoying it quite a bit but it feels like a game best played in short bursts. Otherwise it could get boring rather quickly.

If you really start enjoying it, you'll find that suddenly those short bursts turn into hours at a time!
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: bork on December 27, 2018, 08:54:24 AM
Easy mode to see what the game has to offer at its lowest. Turning on normal today.

All this game needs is the officer entrance/death/retreat movies from old SW. I really can’t wait to start playing it again!

You picked the best PC port, too.  Some of their other PC ports are...just don't.  Don't buy them.   :lol 

Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: bork on December 27, 2018, 12:37:24 PM
So this is interesting- just booted Dynasty Warriors 8XL (Switch) up and it started giving me bonus gold for having other musou game save data. One of the messages said "Save data for WARRIORS OROCHI 3: Ultimate has been detected."  Interesting since this game has not been localized on Switch.

Very well could mean nothing, but that's the first time I can remember the U.S. version of a Koei Switch game detecting the sava data for a Japanese game and listing its name in English like that.  Koei's games are not the same in each region (they have different languages/don't share the same region DLC) like some other releases are, too.

It also says you can get more data if you have a save for DW8 Empires and Spirit Of Sanada.  Two more games only available in Japan. Hmm...

:thinking
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: Himu on December 27, 2018, 12:53:22 PM
DW8XL intro is still one of the top 5 Musou intros! SW2 intro is still top and WO3 intro is number 2!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VAUk3vjqoCM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6YMvU3A7Xs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J95v1ilt24M

In fact, I might put DW8XL as number 2. SO HYPE.
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: Nintex on December 27, 2018, 02:00:12 PM
So this is interesting- just booted Dynasty Warriors 8XL (Switch) up and it started giving me bonus gold for having other musou game save data. One of the messages said "Save data for WARRIORS OROCHI 3: Ultimate has been detected."  Interesting since this game has not been localized on Switch.

Very well could mean nothing, but that's the first time I can remember the U.S. version of a Koei Switch game detecting the sava data for a Japanese game and listing its name in English like that.  Koei's games are not the same in each region (they have different languages/don't share the same region DLC) like some other releases are, too.

It also says you can get more data if you have a save for DW8 Empires and Spirit Of Sanada.  Two more games only available in Japan. Hmm...

:thinking
Switch sold a fuck ton this holiday. Already outsold base PS4+Slim in Japan.
I suspect more of those games will be ported and released digitally.
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: bork on December 27, 2018, 02:23:03 PM
Sengoku Basara openings
:lawd

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=upsaCqiX93k

That music :rock
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: Himu on December 27, 2018, 04:43:03 PM
That looks super cool. I wish I could get into Basara.
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: bork on December 27, 2018, 09:02:06 PM
That looks super cool. I wish I could get into Basara.

4/Sumeragi is so good.
:lawd

Just the play style for characters like Naotora Ii alone shit on anything Koei has done, tbh.  Their Sanada Yukimura game was pretty meh though.
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: Himu on December 28, 2018, 02:49:06 AM
This game!

(https://giant.gfycat.com/LittleElatedHare.gif)

It truly is SamuWar! Put it on Normal, neglected Ina and she's level 1. On the final mission for Nobuyuki's story she gets wrecked in five seconds by regular spear mooks. This game isn't the mindless Musou I was afraid KT turned the franchise into! So I leveled her up in survival and now she's ready!

I. Love. this. game!

(https://media.giphy.com/media/Ek61AvsTykm6k/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: bork on December 28, 2018, 07:42:48 AM
Himu has seen the SW4 light
:rejoice :lawd
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: bork on January 31, 2019, 12:24:22 PM
Got Fate/Extella Link for Switch (digital)- it's not out in 'Murica yet and got delayed until sometime in March for some reason.  Doesn't make sense to me when the game was fully localized months ago and released in English on PS4 and Vita in Asia regions.  Would have just imported for PS4 but decided to wait for the Switch port, which offers full English.  The first game turned out really well on the Switch and the sequel is just as good -if not better- of a port, so glad I waited.  It runs at a very smooth framerate (appears to be 30 FPS, but may be higher) and seems to be running 1080P docked.  It really doesn't look like that much of a visual downgrade from the PS4 version overall and looks nice.  Lots of enemies on-screen at the same time, too.

Like the original game, Fate/Extella Link is a musou-style action game that takes place in a digital word.  It's Musou Matrix!  Everyone is back from the original, with Nero Claudius and Tamamo No Mae as the main characters again, but Altera has been replaced with newcomer Charlemagne, who seems to be a total bro, lol.  There's a lot of assets being re-used here including some of the same stages as the original game, but everything feels much more refined now.  Fate/Extella had an exhausting amount of visual novel-style storyline between stages and the story bits alone were hours and hours of the game, which you had to play through four times to finish.  It also didn't allow for all of the characters to be played in the story modes and instead characters got unlocked for use in side stories that generally were a few levels each.

While there's still visual novel-type cut scenes, they are generally short and the game instead focuses on getting you right back into the action.  Whereas the first game felt like 50% VN and 50% action game, this feels like it's 100% action now.  Instead of going through long conversations to choose a path, clearing a stage opens up several levels that you can choose to play, broken down by day (I.E. day one is one stage, day two has two, etc.).  You can go back and play (or replay) all of the stages available as well- so far, each has generally had the same storyline, but with a few differences and boss/general types.  It's not necessary to play all of the stages to progress, but is useful for level grinding if needed.

The original game's four stories had you playing as one character throughout.  You can now choose from multiple characters to play as and can use in-game currency earned from playing levels to raise all characters' levels to match up with your highest-leveled character.  You still can 'craft' accessories that give you attack/defense/health regen/etc. options in battle, but now you also have four special move slots per character and can earn and switch up attacks inbetween battles.  The added special moves really help the game play to feel more varied and a bit less button-mashy like musou games can be.

Unless something unlocks, character side stories and free modes are gone- instead you get the story mode, extra battles that unlock as you play, and there's now a multiplayer mode which I haven't tried yet.  On Switch, this appears to be local multiplayer only.  Pretty sure it's online on PS4 and can't remember how it works on Vita.

DLC stuff currently being offered includes a bunch of outfits/swimsuits, disturbing 'chibi' character models for some of the main characters (got some of this stuff for free from having an Extella 1 save), and one playable character- Young Altera, who has not shown up in the story mode yet as a playable or enemy character, but from using her in the Extra Battle mode, seems to be the best character in the game by far.  Bit too loli for me with her half-nekkid design, though.  Might have to see if she has an alt costume to cover up with available.
:exxy

Overall, the improvements made to the game fix just about all my complaints on the original.  If you like musou games, this is worth checking out!
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: Trent Dole on March 07, 2019, 09:56:49 PM
Koei Tecmo Steam sale this weekend if there's anything you've missed and want for semi cheap. :doge
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: bork on March 07, 2019, 10:16:07 PM
Koei Tecmo Steam sale this weekend if there's anything you've missed and want for semi cheap. :doge

How about that DOA6 season pass for a reasonable price?
:neogaf
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: Trent Dole on March 07, 2019, 11:55:08 PM
Still $92.99. :doge If you want anything from that wait until it's available piecemeal, no sane person should pay more than a $60 games base price for add on shit.
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: bork on March 08, 2019, 03:08:21 PM
Still $92.99.

:rage

I will reveal a dark, dirty secret.  I bought one or two of those similarly-priced season passes for DOA5 Last Round.
:stahp

THE SHAME

Not happening again.
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: VomKriege on March 19, 2019, 02:54:53 PM
Not really the correct thread but does anyone has some feedback on Nobunaga : Sphere of Influence. I kinda want something to scratch my strategy sore patch but I only have the PS3.

I read a couple reviews and listened to the 3MA podcast but I'm still a bit fuzzy on it.

Was curious about Romance of the 3 kingdoms but apparently the PS store has nothing for the PS3 there (in English)...
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: Himu on March 19, 2019, 03:00:24 PM
Not really the correct thread but does anyone has some feedback on Nobunaga : Sphere of Influence. I kinda want something to scratch my strategy sore patch but I only have the PS3.

I read a couple reviews and listened to the 3MA podcast but I'm still a bit fuzzy on it.

Was curious about Romance of the 3 kingdoms but apparently the PS store has nothing for the PS3 there (in English)...

Check steam. There's more options there in english i believe. I can't tell you how these games are because I haven't played them but they have intrigued me.
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: VomKriege on March 19, 2019, 03:04:05 PM
Not really the correct thread but does anyone has some feedback on Nobunaga : Sphere of Influence. I kinda want something to scratch my strategy sore patch but I only have the PS3.

I read a couple reviews and listened to the 3MA podcast but I'm still a bit fuzzy on it.

Was curious about Romance of the 3 kingdoms but apparently the PS store has nothing for the PS3 there (in English)...

Check steam. There's more options there in english i believe. I can't tell you how these games are because I haven't played them but they have intrigued me.

No PC for games.  >:(
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: Himu on March 19, 2019, 03:06:51 PM
sry
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: VomKriege on March 19, 2019, 03:10:14 PM
sry

I should get a PC soon but probably not one to run anything over Invisible Inc. ( :lol ).

I'll probably try to watch a LP on YouTube or something.
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: VomKriege on March 20, 2019, 10:16:03 AM
Nobunaga... looks a bit like a Paradox game.
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: Himu on March 20, 2019, 12:49:47 PM
Is that good or bad
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: VomKriege on March 20, 2019, 01:11:48 PM
Is that good or bad

Depends if you like Paradox games I guess. :lol It's a solid formula but it's more about the management, grand strategy, and your middlemen than the wargaming (as far as I can tell, the battles are more fleshed out in Nobunaga... than in most Paradox games I played). It's a bit on the busywork side too, which can have its charm : most of the playing time appears to be on the Japan map and in submenus. ROTTK has more of a passing similarity to Civ (managing your cities and the battles happens on the same map).

I'll maybe buy that off the PS store, there's no ROTTK game on PS3 available in English or so it seems (digital or disk).
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: Himu on March 20, 2019, 01:22:05 PM
I mean, ROTK/Nobunaga are all about management. It's a simulation as much as it's a strategy game. So this sounds good.
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: bork on March 20, 2019, 01:24:25 PM
Fate/Extella Link is out now in 'Murica.

IT IS GOOD MUSOU
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: Himu on March 20, 2019, 01:26:25 PM
For fwiw, the game on steam (I know, I know) is reviewed very positively.

https://store.steampowered.com/app/392470/NOBUNAGAS_AMBITION_Sphere_of_Influence/#app_reviews_hash
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: Trent Dole on March 20, 2019, 06:14:07 PM
Fate/Extella Link is out now in 'Murica.

IT IS GOOD MUSOU
I have it installed (and bought the tropical set dlc :teehee ) but haven't had a chance to have it yet. I'll probably be pretty damn free in April if I haven't gotten to it by then. :doge
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: bork on March 20, 2019, 08:32:40 PM
Fate/Extella Link is out now in 'Murica.

IT IS GOOD MUSOU
I have it installed (and bought the tropical set dlc :teehee ) but haven't had a chance to have it yet. I'll probably be pretty damn free in April if I haven't gotten to it by then. :doge

I need to get back to it- I stopped after clearing all the story mode levels and the first few EX levels, but there's a shitload more of the latter to go.  It's so much better than the first game- improved game play and way less story shit.  Gone are the visual novel sequences that went on and on in the original.  Now you just get in and KICK ASS.  Note if you want a crazy-awesome character to play as, get the child Altera DLC character.  She's OP as hell though.  :lol

I got the physical U.S. version too- it's not compatible with the Japanese version (the save data and DLC aren't shared, boo, hiss), but still keeping it because it's a really nice package from XSeed.
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: Trent Dole on March 21, 2019, 01:35:22 AM
Ha but she's like 10 bux and the game itself cost me $50. :doge I guess if she's OP that's sort of a fair price. :lol
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: Trent Dole on July 05, 2019, 11:24:40 PM
https://youtu.be/NoWQKfjluYo
One Piece Pirate Warriors 4 2020 on the 3 consoles and PC
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: Bebpo on July 06, 2019, 12:15:08 AM
Hmmm, ok I'll take it.
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: bork on August 20, 2019, 07:13:11 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cTkpfd7pmAc
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: bork on August 27, 2019, 08:14:40 PM
Quote
Amazon Japan has listed Warriors Orochi 4 Ultimate for PlayStation 4.

While the listing has since been removed, the product description mentioned new playable character Gaia and the return of earlier playable characters such as Joan of Arc (who was last playable in Warriors Orochi 3). It also mentioned other additions including a new story, new side scenarios, new modes, and new actions.

An official announcement is planned for August 29. While the Amazon Japan listing was only for the PlayStation 4 version, like the original Warriors Orochi 4 before it, Warriors Orochi 4 Ultimate is likely due out for Xbox One, Switch, and PC as well.

:phil
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: Trent Dole on August 27, 2019, 10:50:59 PM
Oh man I never finished the regular ass version. :-[
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: bork on August 28, 2019, 07:21:17 AM
(https://www.siliconera.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/WarriorsOrochi4Ultimate.jpg)

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Following the reveal of Warriors Orochi 4 Ultimate on PS4, more info has surfaced from this week’s Famitsu, where Koei Tecmo confirmed that it is also coming to Switch and PC in Japan. [Thanks, Ryokutya2089.]

The game is set to release in Japan this December for both PS4 and Switch versions, while the PC version is expected to release in February. It is priced at 7,800 yen. Those with the original Warriors Orochi 4 will get to purchase the Upgrade Pack as a download for 4,800 yen.

In Warriors Orochi 4 Ultimate we’ll see over 170 characters from previous titles. Tomohiko Sho is the producer of the game. He previously worked as the lead planner of Dynasty Warriors 3 to Dynasty Warriors 6. He then worked as the director of Dragon Quest Heroes and development producer for Dragon Quest Builders 2. He says that he’s looking to use the experience from having worked with Dragon Quest series creator Yuji Horii for the development.

As for new characters, the first is a brand-new character named Gaia. She fights using a Hecatoncheires, basically a giant with multiple arms. She’s a favorite of the producer, and is said to be even more powerful than Zeus.

The other confirmed character is Joan of Arc (Yumi Touma) who debuted in Bladestorm. She is said to have been added as a way to please fans from the West.

New Sacred Treasures will be featured in the game as well as a new type of cooperative move called “Musou Switch Combo” that brings out continuous Musou Attacks from three characters, plus more experience points gained when used.

In addition to more for its story and characters, the overall feel and playability has been improved as well as the UI. There are new side stories consisting of stories that didn’t make it into the original game. Players will also get to switch Sacred Treasures.

There are also new modes such as Challenge Mode that supports rankings and Infinite Mode that will let you party with three people to aim for records.

There will be some sort of save data bonus, but more information will be shared later. Koei Tecmo aren’t thinking about DLC other than  first-print and retailer bonuses, as they want to make it a game you can properly enjoy on its own.

Warriors Orochi 4 Ultimate releases for PlayStation 4 and Nintendo Switch in Japan in December 2019. The PC version releases in February 2020. While an Xbox One version wasn’t announced for Japan it’ll likely be announced for the West.
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Post by: Trent Dole on August 28, 2019, 04:55:37 PM
Having an upgrade path for OG buyers is cool af. 8)
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: Trent Dole on August 30, 2019, 05:13:31 PM
I'M DOUBLE POSTING AND YOU CAN'T STOP ME
https://gematsu.com/2019/08/warriors-orochi-4-ultimate-coming-west-in-february-2020
Orochi 4 Ult in the USSA in February :rock :rock :rock
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: bork on September 03, 2019, 11:34:27 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8mllkiNM9FI

:phil :phil
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: bork on September 11, 2019, 07:07:37 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iOpZLftfiJ8

Wano setting = One Piece Samurai Warriors
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: Himu on September 11, 2019, 10:05:15 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8mllkiNM9FI

:phil :phil

Why is the camera all the way back what the fuck
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: bork on September 11, 2019, 10:21:48 AM
To show off the special attacks.
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: Himu on September 11, 2019, 10:29:13 AM
Bad way to do it imo
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: Trent Dole on September 20, 2019, 07:47:58 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Do5uFMjPhpE
Feb 14  8)
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: bork on November 14, 2019, 07:49:58 AM
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Publisher Koei Tecmo and developer Omega Force have released the second official trailer for Warriors Orochi 4 Ultimate.

The updated release adds all-new characters Gaia, Hades, and Yang Jian, as well as returning characters Ryu Hayabusa from Ninja Gaiden, Joan of Arc from Bladestorm: The Hundred Years’ War, and Achilles from Warriors: Legends of Troy. This is in addition to new scenarios, game modes, and side activities.

Warriors Orochi 4 Ultimate is due out for PlayStation 4 and Switch on December 19 in Japan, and for PlayStation 4, Xbox One, Switch, and PC via Steam on February 14, 2020 in North America and Europe.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bIYWKj66wyM

Hope there's more characters that were added than just the ones they've shown so far...but expectations are low.  Was hoping for everyone (except say, Sophitia) from WO3 Ultimate coming back at the least.
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: Svejk on November 14, 2019, 07:59:25 AM
It's Warriors Orochi 4 Ultimate , but the video says it's Warriors Orochi 3 Ultimate?   :whatisthis
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: bork on November 14, 2019, 10:10:48 AM
It's Warriors Orochi 4 Ultimate , but the video says it's Warriors Orochi 3 Ultimate?   :whatisthis

What we got as Dynasty Warriors 2 was "Shin (New) Sangoku Musou" over there, followed by Shin Sangoku Musou 2 which was Dynasty Warriors 3 for us and so on.

Same thing happened with Orochi.

In Japan, the first game was followed by Musou Orochi: Maou Sairin (Rebirth of the Demon Lord), which makes more sense to me since that game was heavy on asset re-usage and felt like more of an expansion than a brand new title.  They still called it "Warriors Orochi 2" in English, however, so the Dynasty Warriors naming convention applies here too, with Musou Orochi 2 being Warriors Orochi 3 and so on.

:expert
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: bork on November 20, 2019, 04:30:25 PM
Musou Orochi 3 Ultimate popped up on the Japanese eShop does now- was like WAT WAT WAT WAT IT'S OUT!?  But naw, looks like you can buy it and get the vanilla content now, then Ultimate on 12/19.

And it shows English language support.  Now I'm gonna be tempted to buy the J-version so I can play it two months early.  But that means I'd have to replay the vanilla content, I assume.  But I also wouldn't mind doing that again  :lol  :dizzy
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: Trent Dole on November 20, 2019, 09:49:53 PM
I didn't play all that much of vanilla 4 on PC and might just snag Ult on Switch. :-[
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on November 20, 2019, 10:33:44 PM
In hindsight, WO4 is a pale shadow of WO3. I’m hoping WO4 Ultimate is a strong enough package. WO3 Ultimate was pretty much a whole new game added.
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: bork on November 24, 2019, 11:22:50 PM
https://twitter.com/Wario64/status/1198782850742403072
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: bork on December 07, 2019, 08:32:08 PM
Bit the bullet and got the Japanese Musou Orochi 3 Ultimate pre-order.  Can confirm it runs in full-English on Switch, so why Koei is waiting two months to release this elsewhere is beyond me.

It downloaded Vanilla WO4 so I plan to re-play that before Ultimate drops on the 19th.
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: Trent Dole on December 15, 2019, 05:00:29 PM
US WO3 is on the bone and fairly inexpensive, I only played the very base version and some of its DLC cause that's all that was on 360, I'm tempted even though 4 Ult is like two months away, might as well have an actual disc for the thing alongside all the free gamepass stuffs.
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: bork on December 15, 2019, 07:45:01 PM
It goes a lot quicker when you skip all the cut scenes and stuff, lol.  Almost done with Chapter 3.  Just using mainly Kaihime as a tank and crushing everyone with her magic like I did on the first play-through. 
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: Himu on December 15, 2019, 08:45:01 PM
How does 4 ultimate compare to 3
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: bork on December 15, 2019, 09:26:13 PM
How does 4 ultimate compare to 3

Ultimate content isn't out yet.  Will be later this week! :hyper
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: bork on December 17, 2019, 07:32:47 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUAMZVZHz5E
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: bork on December 18, 2019, 10:56:39 AM
I'll see about getting this whenever it drops in price- it's digital only, AFAIK, and is $84.99 on PSN. :dizzy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lv78w5z9pGA

Sucks that they don't have an "all DLC bundle" for sale, too.  You can get a physical DW9 for $29. It's more expensive to get the DLC packs stand-alone.
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: bork on December 18, 2019, 08:29:11 PM
Warriors Orochi 4 Ultimate content just downloaded from the J-eShop.  :hyper

I haven't finished the base story yet, but upgrading gave me a ridiculous 600,000+ growth points to use, unlocked a few characters you get post-game (IIRC), and is letting me switch out magic for characters- the latter already makes the game 10 times better since you're no longer stuck with magic for a specific character.  FINALLY.  Don't think I can access the new story content yet, but what has been added is going to make finishing up the WO4 vanilla content a lot more fun.  :)

They also redid the character select screen.  It's more like Warriors Orochi 3 Ultimate now and much easier to navigate.

EDIT: Yeah, can't get to the new content beyond what was added immediately yet- Infinite Mode won't let me play it until the WO4 vanilla story is cleared.
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: bork on December 20, 2019, 08:27:53 AM
Getting close to finishing up WO4 vanilla content for the second time around- on chapter 5 now.  I forgot that a side story or two opens up in chapter 4 after chapter 5 unlocks.  Weird. 

Still mainly using super-OP Kaihime tank to steamroll through the game- really need to check out how some of the other characters are now that you can use any magic with anyone, but am more interested in checking out the Ultimate characters, so whatever.  They also added two new DLC magic equips- one that summons a giant dog and the other that uses plant-binding moves.  The latter is pretty useful.
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: bork on December 24, 2019, 09:04:30 PM
Finally cleared the vanilla WO4 content for the second time and am now in the Ultimate content.  Impressions so far:

-Have four of the added characters unlocked right now- Hayabusa, Joan Of Arc, Achilles, and newcomer Yang Jian.  It's nice having the returning WO3 guests, but more new characters or at least all of the previous guests being there would have been a lot better.

-In addition to selectable magic for everyone and some DLC magic, a new magic ability got unlocked after a few stages.  Maybe more are there?  You can also now "chain" musou attacks together and do all three of your characters' in a row. 

-You can take characters up to level 100 and then kind of do a CoD-style "prestige", where you start back at level one, but retain abilities unlocked.  This can be done up to five times.

-You can get Upgrade Stones to boost abilities.  Haven't gotten any yet.

-You can craft new weapons- can't say anything about this yet because it's done by getting materials in the Infinity Mode, which I haven't tried yet.  Probably should do that after this post!

-EDIT: Infinity Mode is kind of a different game.  Your characters keep their weapons/levels/etc. but you are starting over, roster-wise, and get to select seven characters to start with.  It's got its own small storyline in which you have to clear 12 challenge towers and will become the new ruler of Olympus at the end.  You can set your team members to search, attack, or protect you and the maps have loot boxes that appear.  Seems fun!

-No new maps (yet?)- the Ultimate content starts with a new Chapter 6 and has stages that are just recycled from WO4- themselves already recycled from other games.  Lame.  I remember loving how WO3 and its upgrades had cool stuff like a Ninja Gaiden-themed level for Ryu and cool intro cut scenes.  None of that is here.  It does appear that there are some new maps later on, however.  I think I've played on on one but am not 100% sure. 

-The story kind of ignores the vanilla ending and continues on with Da Ji and crew still being a-holes and Odin still the bad guy.  Loki switches sides and is your buddy and Gaia, who appears as a soul without a body, leads everyone to stop him and blah blah blah.  More side-story levels also get unlocked including ones that take place during Chapter 5.

-There's a subplot where you can gather 21 "pieces" of the real Perseus to resurrect him.  Unsure if this means he'll pop up as a new character or just Loki clone.  From a gameplay standpoint, what this means is re-playing older levels , but with challenges and time limits in place to get to a Perseus clone, and then you have to complete the level.  This would have been much better if you just did the challenge and that was it- this is basically like Hundun 2.0 and is kind of lame.

WO4 Ultimate so far is good stuff, but does it dethrone WO3 Ultimate as the champ?  Nope.  Still not as good to me- WO3U had better map variety and I liked all those guest characters.  WO4U is definitely #2 in my book though.
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: bork on December 24, 2019, 11:32:45 PM
Got 'grandmama' Gaia, who looks like a teenager (of course), complete with bonus schoolgirl outfit.   :doge  Seems like every new god character looks younger than the last- Hades looks like a teenager too, lol.

She's OP as hell.  Only level eight and already destroying everyone with ease.  She isn't like the other characters and has a magic attack made with her weapon- gives her more attacks using the giant flying hand she rides on.  Basically this character is flying around on a mecha-hand and can shoot mecha-hand missles and shit.  Insane.  :lol

Hoping Hades gets playable soon.  Dunno how long Ultimate's story is but I want to get Perseus before finishing it, not after.
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: bork on December 25, 2019, 06:28:11 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8EgQNbQOfRQ
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: bork on December 28, 2019, 11:24:02 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EM4wqTsUUAcgn_E?format=jpg&name=large)

 :nugenix
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: Trent Dole on January 04, 2020, 03:17:55 AM
Orochi 3 Ult is on its way. 360 never got any of the expansions so even having played that there's a ton of new stuff in it. There's not any listings of how much the 4 - Ult costs that I've seen, there's a 'deluxe' version that mostly just includes some level boosting stuff as well.
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: bork on March 15, 2020, 12:27:29 PM
Finally picked Dynasty Warriors 9 back up after all the patches, and more importantly, discounts- got it on Steam with all DLC for $60.

And then refunded it after 30 minutes of play time, lol.  It was having issues on my desktop PC (due to the ultra widescreen monitor) and forcing 1920x1080 for it it was a pain in the ass.  Tried it on my laptop and despite it being 16:9, the display still looked 'off', like it was squished.

So guess I'll check it out on PS4 again...maybe.
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: bork on March 23, 2020, 11:46:44 PM
Went back and finished up Orochi 4 Ultimate tonight- well, the story stuff, anyway.  Still have so much I could do, but having spent so much time on it, I'm more than ready to move onto Pirate Warriors 4 this week.
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: bork on March 26, 2020, 12:00:52 PM
Started up Pirate Warriors 4- holy crap, this game got a nice boost in the graphics department from PW3.  Playing this on Switch and it looks like a PS4 game, albeit at 30 FPS, lol.  Could be the best-looking Omega Force musou game yet.
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: bork on March 26, 2020, 12:06:41 PM
They changed up the game play for the better- it's now got multiple special attacks available like recent Basara games/Dragon Quest Heroes/Fate Extella Link- press R and then a face button to use them.  Looks like they have different cooldown times depending on how powerful they are.  The musou button lets you do a quick burst/dash forward move that can cause damage to enemies. 

They added destructable elements to stages- it all looks great.  Fuck, brehs, am so impressed with this right now.

:lawd
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: bork on March 26, 2020, 12:21:16 PM
Big Mom popped up- the screen zooms out when the larger characters come up.  Fought her and then Kaido came from outta nowhere and punched her away.  :o
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: bork on April 02, 2020, 07:27:13 AM
https://www.siliconera.com/one-piece-pirate-warriors-4-debuts-with-the-series-lowest-sales-in-japan/

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in its first week on store shelves, One Piece: Pirate Warriors 4 has sold 137,569 units at retail. Namco chose to release the game on both PlayStation 4 and Nintendo Switch, and it’s the Switch version that helped prevent an even steeper decline. While the PS4 version of Pirate Warriors 4 sold 75,998 units, the Switch version was close behind at 61,571 units sold, accounting for 48% of total sales. It makes for the highest debut Pirate Warriors has seen on a portable platform, outselling the PlayStation Vita versions of One Piece: Pirate Warriors 2 and Pirate Warriors 3.

In essence, One Piece: Pirate Warriors 4’s lower sales come from the PlayStation 4 version, which is having trouble keeping up with the home console versions of the prior games.

Sucks, because this is easily one of the best musou games ever made, and looking at the comments section in the article, I see I'm not alone with this opinion.
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: bork on June 26, 2020, 08:15:49 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tsBz2WtoZpY

Why are they taking so long to reveal the DLC characters?  Still got six more to go. :dizzy
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: bork on July 20, 2020, 11:53:34 PM
First set of DLC is finally out.

https://twitter.com/lyteedge/status/1285421725119705088
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on July 21, 2020, 06:45:24 AM
If I have no experience with the anime, will I enjoy One Piece Pirate Warriors 4?

Warriors Orochi 4 Ultimate was very weak coming off of a streak of excellent Musou titles. I’m hoping that was just a one off.
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: bork on July 21, 2020, 07:41:27 AM
If I have no experience with the anime, will I enjoy One Piece Pirate Warriors 4?

Yeah- I don't watch it (although I know the stories because my wife is a big fan), but it doesn't matter.  It's a musou game with a One Piece skin.

Pirate Warriors 2, 3, and 4 are all really good Warriors games.  (The less said about the original, the better.)

Warriors Orochi 4 Ultimate was very weak coming off of a streak of excellent Musou titles. I’m hoping that was just a one off.

:trigger
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on July 21, 2020, 06:20:32 PM
4 Ultimate really rubbed me the wrong way. The last time I was disappointed in a Musou title that much was Strikeforce.
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: Trent Dole on July 21, 2020, 07:05:23 PM
I didn't play Orochi 4 a ton and haven't gotten around to the Ult version yet. Guess I ought to keep chilling on that until it's 20.
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: bork on July 22, 2020, 07:44:35 AM
4 Ultimate really rubbed me the wrong way. The last time I was disappointed in a Musou title that much was Strikeforce.

How so?  I really enjoyed it, apart from too much re-use of older levels.

The last time I was disappointed with one of these games was with Warriors All-Stars.  Liked the added characters from other Tecmo-Koei series, but the game ran like crap on consoles (Especially Vita- it's unplayable on there).  At least it was much better on PC.  I wonder if it runs any better on PS4 Pro with boost mode on?
 :thinking
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: bork on July 22, 2020, 07:59:03 AM
Have Sengoku Basara 4: Sumeragi Anniversary Edition coming- nothing new here, but this version of the game contains all of the DLC (there was a lot of it) on the disc.

I wish Capcom would make a new one.  :(
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on July 23, 2020, 05:21:19 PM
I see One Piece Warriors 4 is on sale so I bought it.
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: bork on July 24, 2020, 08:17:20 AM
Got Sengoku Basara 4: Sumeragi Anniversary Edition- comes with a nice 80 page artbook...

...and a DLC voucher.  :lol
:dead

To be fair, all the previous content IS included on the disc, but they appear to have added some additional weapon skins that you can download.  I just don't understand why they didn't include this on there, too.
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: bork on September 27, 2020, 12:43:27 PM
https://youtu.be/-Y31fmSWClw

Coming out for everything- PS4, PS5, Xbone, Xbox Series, PC, and Switch

Will not be open world. 
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: Trent Dole on September 27, 2020, 02:22:29 PM
I'd say give us an Orochi Empires so we can be everyone at once but considering how they did with the last mainline game of that series...eh. At least this means they are moving on from trying to make DW9 be considered good and towards making something decent from the ground up.
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: bork on September 27, 2020, 02:26:27 PM
I'd say give us an Orochi Empires so we can be everyone at once but considering how they did with the last mainline game of that series...eh. At least this means they are moving on from trying to make DW9 be considered good and towards making something decent from the ground up.

I've read they really improved DW9 after a lot of updates and patches, but I was over it and had long since sold it off by that point.  I did pick it up again in a Steam sale, but refunded it due to the open world stuff just really being "meh."

This appears to be a new game just using the assets from DW9.  I guess it will depend on if it still plays like DW9 in combat or if they ditch that and go back to the DW8 style.
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on November 21, 2020, 01:28:57 PM
I spent about three hours playing the new Hyrule Warriors. I like it a lot. The game has some slowdown when the game gets very active. The difficulty isn’t too bad but it will require you to use a lot of different weapons and making sure your other characters are in the right places (you can direct them to go where you want them to go). I’m liking it quite a bit.

Update: Got to the section with Vah Ruta. This game is awesome :win
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: bork on November 22, 2020, 10:04:07 AM
It's a blast, yeah.  Right now I'm feeling like Link is too OP (got him several levels higher than everyone else) and some of the characters need a bit of grinding to catch up, lol.
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on November 23, 2020, 07:08:09 PM
I’m well into Chapter 2 and I can’t say enough good things about this game. Definitely a top tier Musou title. I highly recommend it.
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on November 27, 2020, 09:50:10 PM
I’m about 30 hours in and it’s starting to get pretty grindy. I like the game a lot but fuck having to grind to kill five more Lynels to get a new recipe.
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: Bebpo on November 28, 2020, 12:04:39 AM
Yeah, the reviews I read liked it but said it was a bit more grindy than usual for a musou game. One of the reason I didn't pick it up day 1. Still probably play it at some point. Might as well wait for more character DLC. The original got like double the cast by the end between the different versions.
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: bork on November 30, 2020, 12:15:29 AM
I didn't try equipping other weapons for Link until this last play session when some training quests unlocked- didn't know when he uses a spear or club that his play style (normals and musous) changes up completely.  Pretty awesome- spears in particular are a lot of fun to use.
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on December 01, 2020, 11:24:20 AM
About 40 hours in. Looking ahead, looks like I’m almost done with the game. So a few more thoughts:

- A lot of meaningless characters. I’m sure there will be more via DLC but I wish they kept it to a simpler roster.

- There are stages where you can farm Hinoxes and Lynels quickly so they mitigated some of the grinding. I also just changed my strategy to clean out out the stock of the shops when they pop up. That way when I need 30 Durians I’m ready to go. I’m sure I’m wasting money in some regards but I’m at the point where I have more money than I know what to do with so it’s fine.

- Korok seeds are less annoying here than BOTW. They tend to be in obvious places and I believe there are only about 150 to collect vs 900 like in BOTW.

I think I have to continue giving the nod to Fire Emblem Warriors as my favorite Nintendo Musou property but Age of Calamity is a close second.

Sounds like this game is already the best selling Musou of all time: https://www.nintendolife.com/news/2020/11/hyrule_warriors_age_of_calamity_is_already_the_best-selling_warriors_game_of_all_time
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: Bebpo on December 01, 2020, 02:56:22 PM
If you don't care about either IP, which is a better musou game? FE or Zelda?
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: bork on December 01, 2020, 03:40:42 PM
If you don't care about either IP, which is a better musou game? FE or Zelda?

I look at these games as being part of the same series, since the way they play is fundamentally similar, I.E. controlling controlling more than one character during game play.  So to me, it goes Samurai Warriors Chronicles -> Samurai Warriors Chronicles 2 -> Samurai Warriors Chronicles 3 -> Hyrule Warriors (DX) -> Fire Emblem Warriors -> Hyrule Warriors AoC.  (Samurai Warriors 4 has this too, but that's only two characters whereas these games can go up to four and feel more strategic in that sense.)

Fire Emblem feels more like a traditional musou game with a set story mode.  There's more than just story, but that's a separate mode (where it's kind of like FE in that you have a small map with units you move around, but the fights are musou stages). 

AoC, like Hyrule Warriors before it, retains elements from the Zelda series and like BoTW, you're on one giant map that you can "fill in" with new quests as you go.  These quests are either smaller battles or just providing items/ingredients to clear the quest and get more items, power-ups, or character upgrades (health or combo extenders).  It's more grindy than other musou games because of this, since you might need to replay levels or quests to get items or currency.  That's not to say that there isn't a grind in some other musou games, but it's more like post-game or other modes for those titles and in this one, you'll want to grind to ensure that you're powerful enough to tackle the main story.

Another thing is performance- Fire Emblem runs better than AoC does, especially with its 60 FPS performance mode.  AoC looks very much like BoTW and takes a perfomance hit because of it.  It's not bad at all, but noticeably worse than the first Hyrule Warriors and Fire Emblem because of it.  Really, those two games are standouts for running so smoothly since most musou games tend to have lower frame rates or framerate issues.

If you want something more akin to traditional musou, go with Fire Emblem.  Hyrule Warriors (both games) is a bit different, but in a good way. 
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on December 01, 2020, 04:01:54 PM
My wishy washy answer is that it depends.

Age of Calamity is definitely the most modern Musou game and fully puts to bed that you can just mash Y to win. I never bought into it to begin with but you’re going to need to use the elemental rods, stasis, remote bombs, etc. to get anywhere. Change in weapons as Bork pointed out changes the characters us. Some of the more main characters will have a couple weapon types.

Fire Emblem Warriors resembles to me the classic PS2 era of Musou, which I love but is not for everyone. It’s been a while since I played the game but I liked the maps, story mode, etc. I don’t have a whole lot more to say except I enjoyed the grind/progression here a lot more than Age of Calamity.

Both are far better than the original Hyrule Warriors.
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: bork on December 02, 2020, 10:53:45 AM
Hyrule Warriors AoC has post-game content! Definitely sounds like a big grind, but tackling it will unlock the true ending and one more playable character.

Spoilers:
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https://www.inverse.com/gaming/hyrule-warriors-age-of-calamity-secret-ending-unlock-terrako/amp
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Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on December 03, 2020, 07:49:41 AM
Got to the credits about 43 hours in. There’s a good amount of post game content but nothing you haven’t seen before in terms of missions, recipes, etc. I’m a big enough masochist to keep grinding for the true ending.
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: pancakesandsex on December 06, 2020, 10:16:18 PM
Can anyone who got a ps5 pop in DW8 and tell me if it runs better than on a ps4 pro?

I'm very curious about this and no place is going to do that test on their own.
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: Bebpo on December 06, 2020, 11:55:37 PM
Can anyone who got a ps5 pop in DW8 and tell me if it runs better than on a ps4 pro?

I'm very curious about this and no place is going to do that test on their own.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/ps5-backwards-compatibility-all-ps4-games-with-benefits.322747/

I'm assuming DW8 Empires would run the same? Says locked 60fps on PS5.
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: pancakesandsex on December 07, 2020, 09:14:37 PM
I feel like that 50-60 fps on pro is a lie.  I'm going to have to try it again to make sure I'm not bonkers, but I could have sworn it was regularly sub 40 even on pro.
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: bork on December 08, 2020, 12:40:20 AM
I feel like that 50-60 fps on pro is a lie.  I'm going to have to try it again to make sure I'm not bonkers, but I could have sworn it was regularly sub 40 even on pro.

I don't have the game to test, but I remember it being much smoother on the Pro when I tried it with boost mode enabled.
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on December 12, 2020, 05:45:44 PM
Finished Age of Calamity and got 100% of everything. The clock was 73 hours but I’d say several hours was going back and getting all the Korok seeds. You get two post-game characters*, which is ok. As mentioned before, I still like Fire Emblem Warriors more but this is still a very good game.

*
spoiler (click to show/hide)
Terrako and Calamity Ganon
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Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: Svejk on March 08, 2021, 04:17:15 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4DH4GMQ_A3Y&t=64s
 :doge
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: bork on March 08, 2021, 08:39:08 PM
I love how over the top that is.   :lol 

Looks 100 times better than that Monster Hunter movie.  :doge
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: Bebpo on March 08, 2021, 08:45:05 PM
I'm surprised they haven't made a DW movie yet.
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: bork on April 28, 2021, 11:59:14 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KvHNjNaVYRI
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: Bebpo on April 28, 2021, 12:23:46 PM
Looks pretty nice.

Using that Zelda money  ;)
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: bork on June 01, 2021, 10:30:34 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vooPh4t5D5I

:lawd
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: bork on June 16, 2021, 06:30:14 PM
Sengoku Musou 5 demo is up on the Japanese stores for Switch, PS4, and Xbox One!

https://twitter.com/lyteedge/status/1405297060941746178

The visuals look GREAT on the Switch -very vibrant and crisp- but the framerate feels like...well...it's musou, yeah.  LOL.  If they don't screw up the port, I may get this one on Steam.
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: bork on July 21, 2021, 11:19:09 PM
Samurai Warriors 5 demos are now up.

No improvements on Switch over the Japanese version- it feels like it's running at sub 30-fps, but is still quite playable and feels "stable" once you get used to this.

Tried the Steam demo.  It took so long to start that I thought it had frozen up on the first try.  Once it actually loaded, it had some decent graphics options and I was glad to see 1440P support.  Runs at a rock-solid 60 fps.  Even has mouse/kb support now.  One problem- couldn't get my Xbox One gamepad to work with it.  Will try again, but I have a feeling this might be another Koei PC mess so I'll probably just stick with the Switch version despite the worse performance.
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: Trent Dole on July 21, 2021, 11:55:34 PM
Yikes, I have the demo, guess I better make sure it works with my wireless sx pad before throwing 60 at it! :lol Hearing about that kind of blows, I wanted to play it on steam with a friend.
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: bork on July 25, 2021, 10:57:28 PM
Yikes, I have the demo, guess I better make sure it works with my wireless sx pad before throwing 60 at it! :lol Hearing about that kind of blows, I wanted to play it on steam with a friend.

Just tried it on another PC (GPD Win 3) and not only did it recognize the controller with no issues, but the demo also loaded right up.  Wonder what it is about my desktop that's giving the demo issues.  So now am tempted to get the full version on Steam and see how it runs- can always refund it anyway.
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: bork on July 26, 2021, 09:31:57 PM
SW5 is already up on Steam- downloading now.

Decided to give it a shot after I realized the reason my controller wasn't working is because a fightpad was already plugged in! :lol :dizzy
:dead :neogaf
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: bork on July 26, 2021, 10:36:46 PM
Decided to refund it on Steam- there's no cloud save support, so it would be a bit of pain to go back and forth between PCs.  Will just get it on Switch and deal with the lower framerate for easy big screen/portable play.

The game is very solid- nothing you haven't seen before, but the character redesigns and new story perspective help to make it feel a bit fresh. 
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: Bebpo on July 27, 2021, 12:53:06 AM
No cloud save support on Steam in 2021 is crazy. These Koei Tecmo ports are such a mixed bag for PC.
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: bork on July 27, 2021, 07:06:32 AM
No cloud save support on Steam in 2021 is crazy. These Koei Tecmo ports are such a mixed bag for PC.


Forgot to mention that when the game was running, I was unable to adjust the volume on my USB speakers, from both a dial on the keyboard and directly on the speakers themselves.  And when I tried to use a newer Xbox Series controller (bluetooth) with the game, the button mappings were all messed up.  An older Xbox One (USB wireless) controller worked just fine.  These are all pretty minor issues, but it was enough to just do a refund and stick with Switch.

But yeah, Koei ports are really hit or miss on PC and because of that, I usually will get their games on console.
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: pancakesandsex on July 27, 2021, 08:26:03 AM
It has full controller support though!

You can alt tab out to adjust volume, which is definitely weird, but workable.  Trial also has no quit button, so alt +f4 seems to be the preferred method to close, even has a dialog prompt.

The info box on steam SAYS it supports steam cloud btw.

ugh apparently this has dw7-8 style weapon switching?
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: bork on July 27, 2021, 12:07:28 PM
It has full controller support though!

You can alt tab out to adjust volume, which is definitely weird, but workable.  Trial also has no quit button, so alt +f4 seems to be the preferred method to close, even has a dialog prompt.

You can thankfully quit out in the full version with a button,

The info box on steam SAYS it supports steam cloud btw.

 :iface

ugh apparently this has dw7-8 style weapon switching?

No,doesn't look like it- but you can equip any character with any weapon.  Everyone has a preferred weapon that will work best and offer more abilities, IIRC.
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: pancakesandsex on July 28, 2021, 01:21:49 PM
It has full controller support though!

You can alt tab out to adjust volume, which is definitely weird, but workable.  Trial also has no quit button, so alt +f4 seems to be the preferred method to close, even has a dialog prompt.

You can thankfully quit out in the full version with a button,

The info box on steam SAYS it supports steam cloud btw.

 :iface

ugh apparently this has dw7-8 style weapon switching?

No,doesn't look like it- but you can equip any character with any weapon.  Everyone has a preferred weapon that will work best and offer more abilities, IIRC.

turns out i missed the help text, i see the prompt on the demo

re: steam cloud, just meant maybe they will patch it or something, like it was supposed to have it but they effed up.

I got this to run on low on a laptop with a 940mx so i'm not exactly evaluating performance atm, but man it would be nice if they touched up the controller support and such on some of their older titles on pc.
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: bork on July 28, 2021, 02:15:50 PM
It's Koei, so you never know if they will fix things or just leave it in a messy state. 
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: pancakesandsex on July 28, 2021, 07:32:02 PM
I'm still kinda miffed at how DW8 looks/ performs on pc, and the lack of controller button prompts despite being well into the xinput is king generation on release.  no mods either?
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on August 08, 2021, 01:34:52 PM
Finally getting around to playing SW5 on Switch. I like it. Each new SW game feels very distinctive from the previous and this is no exception.
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: bork on August 11, 2021, 07:46:12 AM
https://twitter.com/Nibellion/status/1425415515766411269

Finally getting around to playing SW5 on Switch. I like it. Each new SW game feels very distinctive from the previous and this is no exception.

Haven't had time to play it since last month. 
:stahp
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: Trent Dole on August 12, 2021, 05:41:16 AM
I have it but haven't started yet. :-[
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: bork on October 05, 2021, 10:30:59 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EY4owbSeCpY

Quote
Dynasty Warriors 9 Empires will launch for PlayStation 5, Xbox Series, PlayStation 4, Xbox One, Switch, and PC via Steam on February 25, 2022 in North America and Europe, publisher Koei Tecmo and developer Omega Force announced. The PlayStation 5 version will be a digital-only release, but users who purchase the physical PlayStation 4 version will receive a free upgrade to the PlayStation 5 version.
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: bork on January 27, 2022, 03:35:05 PM
DW9 Empires demo is up.

Tried it on Switch- it is absolutely HORRENDOUS.  Quite possibly the worst musou game I've played on the platform.  Awful visuals, bad framerate, and a low resolution.  It's ugly as hell.   :yuck

Gonna try it on PS5 next. 
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: pancakesandsex on January 27, 2022, 06:26:42 PM
It has full controller support though!

You can alt tab out to adjust volume, which is definitely weird, but workable.  Trial also has no quit button, so alt +f4 seems to be the preferred method to close, even has a dialog prompt.

You can thankfully quit out in the full version with a button,

The info box on steam SAYS it supports steam cloud btw.

 :iface

ugh apparently this has dw7-8 style weapon switching?

No,doesn't look like it- but you can equip any character with any weapon.  Everyone has a preferred weapon that will work best and offer more abilities, IIRC.

Apparently it has cloud save support now.

(https://i.imgur.com/uTLDaq6.png)
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: bork on January 27, 2022, 06:56:09 PM
It has full controller support though!

You can alt tab out to adjust volume, which is definitely weird, but workable.  Trial also has no quit button, so alt +f4 seems to be the preferred method to close, even has a dialog prompt.

You can thankfully quit out in the full version with a button,

The info box on steam SAYS it supports steam cloud btw.

 :iface

ugh apparently this has dw7-8 style weapon switching?

No,doesn't look like it- but you can equip any character with any weapon.  Everyone has a preferred weapon that will work best and offer more abilities, IIRC.

Apparently it has cloud save support now.

(https://i.imgur.com/uTLDaq6.png)

:stahp

Oh well, maybe next time.
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: bork on January 27, 2022, 11:18:31 PM
DW9 Empires on PS5 runs much better.  I went with the action mode option for a more stable framerate- it looks pretty much like I remember it on PS4.  Maybe a little better?  But the game has screen-tearing which I don't think I've seen on a Playstation game in a long time.  Not sure if I'm feeling the game play either.  Might be a pass.
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: VomKriege on May 02, 2022, 09:23:02 AM
Which one of DW was an open world that people really didn't feel worked well ? 8 or 9 ?
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: bork on May 02, 2022, 10:39:04 AM
Which one of DW was an open world that people really didn't feel worked well ? 8 or 9 ?

DW9.  Wouldn't get it or 9 Empires at this point.
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on May 08, 2022, 05:39:20 PM
I bought DW9 Empires on Switch day one but haven’t taken it out of the box yet 😬

I just got a few pockets of free time again and playing SW5. This is a great game.
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: bork on May 09, 2022, 10:58:25 PM
I bought DW9 Empires on Switch day one but haven’t taken it out of the box yet 😬

Don't open it- return it!
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: Polident Hive on May 09, 2022, 11:37:21 PM
DW9 Empires demo is magical on Switch. Nailed that early PS3/Xbox 360 nostalgia. PS5 demo is a little too smooth, but at least it's wildly inconsistent with plenty of screen tearing.
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on May 11, 2022, 12:43:52 PM
How and why did they botch the DW9 games so badly? It really felt like Omega Force was hitting their stride the last few years…then we get this. Maybe they need to be wrangled by Nintendo or someone.
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: bork on July 12, 2022, 10:18:01 PM
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1879330/WARRIORS_OROCHI_3_Ultimate_Definitive_Edition/

:lawd
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: Trent Dole on July 12, 2022, 10:25:32 PM
I already have WO3 Ult on 1X but if you don't have this yet you need to.
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: bork on July 12, 2022, 10:29:06 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKYDffvAKfM
:bow :bow2
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: Trent Dole on July 29, 2022, 05:19:58 AM
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1013220/River_City_Saga_Three_Kingdoms/
lol wut
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: bork on July 29, 2022, 08:34:22 AM
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1013220/River_City_Saga_Three_Kingdoms/
lol wut

People seem to like it a lot, too- got a physical copy coming from Play-Asia to check out.
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on September 05, 2022, 01:15:17 PM
Finally getting around to playing SW5 on Switch. I like it. Each new SW game feels very distinctive from the previous and this is no exception.

I finally finished SW5 on Switch :lol

I really liked this one and thought it was very well done. The downside is that some missions require using scrub characters you’ll never want to play again but most of the main characters are fun to play with. I’ve always liked the effort put into the SW games and think it’s a great entry to the series.
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: bork on September 05, 2022, 10:40:26 PM
Finally getting around to playing SW5 on Switch. I like it. Each new SW game feels very distinctive from the previous and this is no exception.

I finally finished SW5 on Switch :lol

I really liked this one and thought it was very well done. The downside is that some missions require using scrub characters you’ll never want to play again but most of the main characters are fun to play with. I’ve always liked the effort put into the SW games and think it’s a great entry to the series.

It fell off for me, too.  I started over on the PC version but I'm super behind on video games in general.  Got the new Fire Emblem Warriors still waiting too!
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on September 08, 2022, 11:18:25 AM
I just started that game, only having time to play one mission. I like what I’ve played so far lol.
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on September 11, 2022, 08:12:20 PM
This weekend I was able to play about ten hours of the new Fire Emblem Warriors. It’s really good.
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on September 19, 2022, 12:18:53 PM
I’m on chapter 12 of 16 chapters, about 32 hours in per the game clock. This game is very good and much like Age of Calamity, demonstrates a significant effort to make it closely resemble the Nintendo mainline game. Like the original FEW, it is very simplified in combat, which I like sometimes. I’m only going to play one storyline though and maybe there are hidden chapters or levels but this is a good effort. I also saw an article a few weeks ago saying it sold a million copies. Seems like the Nintendo Musou games the only strong sellers in the Musou series, which if I recall, the series peaked with DW4, DW5, and the original Samurai Warriors in terms of sales.
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on September 24, 2022, 01:36:08 PM
Finished in about 43 hours and a few hours were instances I was playing late at night and dozing so maybe a 35-40 hour game. I S-ranked all the stages. There were still about 200 (out of 500) achievements I needed to get but it’s not worth it. I’ll be curious what kind of DLC will come out for this game. It’s good but actually wound up impressing me less than both Age of Calamity and the original Fire Emblem Warriors.
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on September 27, 2022, 12:51:00 PM
I wound up starting up with a second house and just turned up the difficulty. You’re allowed to transfer leveled up characters, your facility upgrades, etc. So a lot of the grind is not necessary.
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on October 02, 2022, 04:10:43 PM
Starting up the third house on hard mode lol. Let’s do this.
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on October 16, 2022, 08:31:03 AM
Finished all three houses, 124 hours. Each house was just different enough. I wound up getting 324 achievements out of 450. It’s not my favorite Musou but I like it quite a bit.
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: Himu on October 16, 2022, 02:44:32 PM
Went back to SW4-II after years away. Has some flaws (I dislike how it takes DW7 and 8 group story structure instead of via character) but still fun af.
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: Himu on October 16, 2022, 07:42:47 PM
Never played it before but Spirit of Sanada seems to fix my problems with 4-2 and seems like a GOAT Musou game. Wow. I completely missed out on this. The story looks fantastic. The game actually ages up Yukimura and gives him a beard and shit.
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: Bebpo on October 16, 2022, 08:38:08 PM
Finished all three houses, 124 hours. Each house was just different enough. I wound up getting 324 achievements out of 450. It’s not my favorite Musou but I like it quite a bit.

How's the story if you liked Three Houses?
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on October 16, 2022, 08:55:12 PM
Finished all three houses, 124 hours. Each house was just different enough. I wound up getting 324 achievements out of 450. It’s not my favorite Musou but I like it quite a bit.

How's the story if you liked Three Houses?

I haven’t played Three Houses yet lol.
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on October 20, 2022, 08:13:40 AM
I bought DW9 Empires on Switch day one but haven’t taken it out of the box yet 😬

I just got a few pockets of free time again and playing SW5. This is a great game.

I decided to start playing DW9E out of curiosity and wow, it is garbage. PS2-era visuals, awkward controls, and the gameplay itself sucks too. Some of the character models are creepy looking too :lol
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: bork on October 20, 2022, 10:09:36 AM
I bought DW9 Empires on Switch day one but haven’t taken it out of the box yet 😬

I just got a few pockets of free time again and playing SW5. This is a great game.

I decided to start playing DW9E out of curiosity and wow, it is garbage. PS2-era visuals, awkward controls, and the gameplay itself sucks too. Some of the character models are creepy looking too :lol

Yeah, it's super awful.  The PS4 version looked like crap too.
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on October 22, 2022, 06:01:00 PM
I’m done with this game. The problem I have with it now is that I lose a province almost immediately after gaining one. When I had to reconquer this province for the sixth time (I verified), that was it. I’ve played DW Empires games before and this was by far the most frustrating to play. Even the game’s translations are as sloppy as the rest of the game. bork warned me but I had to experience it for myself.
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: bork on October 22, 2022, 06:05:38 PM
I’m done with this game. The problem I have with it now is that I lose a province almost immediately after gaining one. When I had to reconquer this province for the sixth time (I verified), that was it. I’ve played DW Empires games before and this was by far the most frustrating to play. Even the game’s translations are as sloppy as the rest of the game. bork warned me but I had to experience it for myself.

 :walkaway
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: Himu on October 26, 2022, 07:35:21 AM
Another year, another playthrough of SW2 +XL on 360.
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on October 27, 2022, 07:40:02 AM
Because I must hate myself, I kept playing and finally beat the game. I got lucky: I was able to get out of the cycle of one territory lost and one territory gained by having someone join me as an ally and one year where nobody successfully took over a territory. So that was enough momentum to capture the remaining couple of territories and that was that. I wound up getting married and having a baby. I will never play this game again, it reminds me of that DW6/Strikeforce era of DW where they half assed everything. The upside is after that we got the very excellent DW7 and Warriors Orochi 3 so here’s hoping DW10 is similar.
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: bork on October 27, 2022, 07:47:57 AM
Because I must hate myself, I kept playing and finally beat the game. I got lucky: I was able to get out of the cycle of one territory lost and one territory gained by having someone join me as an ally and one year where nobody successfully took over a territory. So that was enough momentum to capture the remaining couple of territories and that was that. I wound up getting married and having a baby. I will never play this game again, it reminds me of that DW6/Strikeforce era of DW where they half assed everything. The upside is after that we got the very excellent DW7 and Warriors Orochi 3 so here’s hoping DW10 is similar.

Why did you do this to yourself!?   :lol :dizzy

Definitely hoping DW10 is good.  I feel like they don't know what to do with their own games and are putting more work into the licensed stuff instead.  SW5 is solid from what I've played of it, but nothing really new.  Just them starting over with new designs again.
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on October 27, 2022, 11:09:12 AM
The licensed stuff also sells a lot better than their DW/SW series so not surprised more attention is given to those. I think Age of Calamity sold more than three million and Three Hopes more than a million. I don’t think a mainline DW or SW game has hit those numbers since the mid 2000s. I’m sure a DW10 is coming at some point so hopefully they take the time and get it right.
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: Himu on October 27, 2022, 12:23:09 PM
Ordered DW5 for PS2.
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on October 27, 2022, 02:36:33 PM
Ordered DW5 for PS2.

That’s still my favorite mainline DW game. Good choice!
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: Himu on October 27, 2022, 04:18:18 PM
I never played DW3, 4, or 5. I started with 7 which I liked a lot but then got Warriors Orochi 2, Dynasty Warriors Gundam, and Samurai Warriors 2 and never looked back. I love DW8 but the RPS shit, the fact every character can use every weapon, and the faction crap with so many characters not getting shine makes me think DW is inferior to SW in every way possible. Apparently DW5 is SW caliber so I'm looking forward to it.

Feels like DW itself peaked with 4 and 5 and the other series have been better ever since. DW has too much bloat and the characters don't play unique or have thei own movesets. It's easily the worst Musou series. I'd rather get Hyrule Warriors (which I haven't played yet despite being a big Zelda fan) or Fire Emblem Warriors (a franchise I don't care much about) than DW10.
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: bork on October 27, 2022, 10:06:31 PM
There was a Dynasty Warriors 5 Xbox 360 port- do you not have a 360 anymore?  It looks and runs better on there from what I remember.

I'd rather get Hyrule Warriors (which I haven't played yet despite being a big Zelda fan) or Fire Emblem Warriors (a franchise I don't care much about) than DW10.

Don't think that anyone is going to argue against this.  :P

BTW, Hyrule Warriors (DX) and Fire Emblem Warriors are really the evolution of the Samurai Warriors Chronicles games, if you've ever played any of those. 
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: Himu on October 28, 2022, 12:37:08 AM
360 does not have DW5. Xbox does. But Xbox has DW5 but not XL. DW5 Special is on 360 has has vanilla 5 and XL content but is exclusive to Japan and Taiwan. Yes, I'm playing on 360. I say I'm playing SW2 XL 360 above. 360 DOES have Dynasty Warriors 5 Empires.

Loved SWC.
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: bork on October 28, 2022, 10:47:29 AM
My bad- I had a Japanese 360 and didn't realize it never got localized.  It does look like there's a patched English version floating around to use on modded systems at least.

There's a number of ports like this they never released in English, for whatever reason, particularly on PS3, PSP, and Vita.  Samurai Warriors 2 got a nice HD port to PS3 and Vita which contains 2, XL, and Empires all together.  Samurai Warriors 3Z on PS3 was a lot better than the Wii version (although that one can possibly be explained by Nintendo having some kind of exclusive on it on Wii) and then there's Warriors Orochi Z on PS3, which contains HD ports of WO1 and WO2 with some new content, to name a few.

The Switch also got several releases that were never localized.  I have the Warriors Orochi 3 Ultimate and Samurai Warriors 4 DX ports and they are really, really awesome -all the DLC was included and they run GREAT- still wish they got English versions, but at least WO3U finally hit Steam and works on the Deck.
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: Himu on October 28, 2022, 12:35:19 PM
I've always wanted Samurai Warriors 3Z but have questioned if I could play it because Warriors games are so fast paced and hectic and even if I know Japanese I'm not confident in my ability to play it at such a fast speed. It's a shame because it always looked so fantastic to me. :fbm

Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: bork on October 28, 2022, 12:56:56 PM
It's pretty straight-forward, but TBH to me it's just skippable because of Warriors Orochi 3 Ultimate anyway.  Although I feel that way about most of the older games.  Would rather just play the Orochi titles.
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on October 31, 2022, 06:43:30 AM
I had DW5 Special on 360. It did look slightly better and have less slowdown than the PS2 version. The “Asian” version also had English text available if I recall correctly.

I had Samurai Warriors 3Z for PS3 and while it was entirely in Japanese, any Musou player can get around fine for the most part without knowing much of the language. There were a couple missions that required knowing the language but GameFAQs if I recall had a guide and was able to go through those missions with no problem afterwards. I think Samurai Warriors 4 and 5 are much better games. I think each mainline SW game gets better and better; more care seems to be put into those games than the DW mainline series. So I’d feel SW3Z would be outdone by subsequent entries into the series.

My bad- I had a Japanese 360 and didn't realize it never got localized.  It does look like there's a patched English version floating around to use on modded systems at least.

There's a number of ports like this they never released in English, for whatever reason, particularly on PS3, PSP, and Vita.  Samurai Warriors 2 got a nice HD port to PS3 and Vita which contains 2, XL, and Empires all together.  Samurai Warriors 3Z on PS3 was a lot better than the Wii version (although that one can possibly be explained by Nintendo having some kind of exclusive on it on Wii) and then there's Warriors Orochi Z on PS3, which contains HD ports of WO1 and WO2 with some new content, to name a few.

The Switch also got several releases that were never localized.  I have the Warriors Orochi 3 Ultimate and Samurai Warriors 4 DX ports and they are really, really awesome -all the DLC was included and they run GREAT- still wish they got English versions, but at least WO3U finally hit Steam and works on the Deck.

Yeah the logic of what gets ported or not by KT is a head scratcher sometimes. I would have bought the ports in English day one. I think 10-15 years ago the Musou games were at a low point and therefore Koei didn’t think it was worth the effort to sell maybe a few thousand copies. The Switch ports make less sense in that regard because the Musou games have had a second wind thanks to the popularity of the licensed games, plus they translated and released DW8XL.
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: Himu on November 01, 2022, 01:16:12 PM
Can you check to see if it DW5 SPECIAL Asian version has English text?

How is SW5 better than 2, 3, or 4? I've heard bad things about 5.
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: bork on November 01, 2022, 04:17:16 PM
I don't recall there being an Asian version of Dynasty Warriors 5 that was on Xbox 360. I don't see anything when I look it up- just the Japanese version.  Not even sure if there's English patches now after googling, too. Was a Windows version as well but it's apparently not very playable or playable at all in English Windows machines. And there's some sketchy sites out there saying they have English patches that I don't trust.  Maybe the best way to play it is on a PS2 emulator with widescreen hacks?

My time with SW5 is limited (I'm so behind on games  :cry), but it seems pretty solid, albeit just more of what SW4 did with a redesigned cast.
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: Himu on November 01, 2022, 04:32:29 PM
It's so weird how SW3 was just left to the ether. Fuck the Wii. I saw videos of the Wii version of SW3 and it legit looks unplayable.
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: bork on November 01, 2022, 06:19:24 PM
It's so weird how SW3 was just left to the ether. Fuck the Wii. I saw videos of the Wii version of SW3 and it legit looks unplayable.

I played through it back then and it was fine- how it runs now I shudder to think, although maybe emulation fixes that too?
:thinking

Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: Himu on November 01, 2022, 06:30:26 PM
It's so weird how SW3 was just left to the ether. Fuck the Wii. I saw videos of the Wii version of SW3 and it legit looks unplayable.

I played through it back then and it was fine- how it runs now I shudder to think, although maybe emulation fixes that too?
:thinking

It looks so slow. I don't understand how.
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on November 01, 2022, 10:46:01 PM
Thanks for correcting me, I swore it was an Asian version of DW5 Special with English text. It must have been Japanese then. I did play the PS2 version first and then I got it on the 360 so maybe my aging mind has conflated the two lol.
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: bork on November 02, 2022, 07:17:23 AM
It's so weird how SW3 was just left to the ether. Fuck the Wii. I saw videos of the Wii version of SW3 and it legit looks unplayable.

I played through it back then and it was fine- how it runs now I shudder to think, although maybe emulation fixes that too?
:thinking

It looks so slow. I don't understand how.

You'd have to ask 2009 me that- dunno! 

But I remember it being a solid game that was unfairly trashed by some of the review sites at the time.  IGN gave it a 3.0.  The game was Wii-exclusive because Nintendo had a hand in funding it, IIRC, and there was a Muramasa Castle mode based on the old Famicom game with the character from that game being made playable. 

Despite this, they released Sengoku Musou 3Z for PSP and PS3 later on.  I still don't get how that happened.

Thanks for correcting me, I swore it was an Asian version of DW5 Special with English text. It must have been Japanese then. I did play the PS2 version first and then I got it on the 360 so maybe my aging mind has conflated the two lol.

I swear there was an English version too!  :lol  Been too long and too many musous!
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: Himu on November 02, 2022, 07:57:24 PM
DW5 is pretty dope. The English VA is hilarious af
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: Himu on November 03, 2022, 04:32:34 AM
DW5 is hard as shit. Holy fuck. Hu Lao Gate in itself is shocking. I've died multiple times with Zhao Yun. It could be even argued it's too hard. Dong Zuo is way harder than I thought he'd be. This is night and day from modern Musou and even Samurai Warriors 2.

I had to put it on easy lol.

This seems to be a top tier Musou for so many reasons though.
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: pancakesandsex on November 11, 2022, 02:30:50 PM
I've been singing the praises of the DW5 / SW2 era of musou for years.  Easily some of the best in the series.

Realized DW8 on pc does not have cloud support which makes playing it on deck kinda meh.  Oh well.
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: Himu on November 11, 2022, 03:04:36 PM
DW5 is def amazing.
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on November 19, 2022, 08:53:23 PM
I’m playing One Piece Warriors 4. It’s fun even though I know nothing about One Piece. The world isn’t really captivating to me either to learn more, unlike the Gundam Warriors games. I’d love to play another one of those. The third Gundam Warriors game was fantastic.
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: bork on November 19, 2022, 09:03:19 PM
I’m playing One Piece Warriors 4. It’s fun even though I know nothing about One Piece. The world isn’t really captivating to me either to learn more, unlike the Gundam Warriors games. I’d love to play another one of those. The third Gundam Warriors game was fantastic.

Pirate Warriors 2-4 are all solid musous!  The less said about the original, the better.
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: Bebpo on November 19, 2022, 10:53:37 PM
How's DW All-Stars? I signed up for PS Extra and I saw it's on the list and wonder if it's worth a download or if it's a shitty musou.
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: bork on November 21, 2022, 09:07:08 AM
How's DW All-Stars? I signed up for PS Extra and I saw it's on the list and wonder if it's worth a download or if it's a shitty musou.

Do you mean Warriors All-Stars?

I'm kinda mixed on it.  On one hand, it feels like a huge downgrade compared to the Orochi games.  Very small roster and you only get to control one character in battles. 

One the other hand, some of the characters they added to this game are fun as hell to play as.  Seeing as how it's 'free', I'd check it out and mess around with the non-Warriors characters (I.E. the DOA crew, William from Nioh, Deception characters, etc.) and skip using the standard Warriors characters.  There's even a cat version of Nobunaga and Rio from the Super Blackjack series.  Wacky stuff.

The game also ran like dogshit on PS4, but it should be much, much better on PS5.  Let's not even talk about the Vita version.
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on November 28, 2022, 06:15:27 AM
I’m playing One Piece Warriors 4. It’s fun even though I know nothing about One Piece. The world isn’t really captivating to me either to learn more, unlike the Gundam Warriors games. I’d love to play another one of those. The third Gundam Warriors game was fantastic.

I wound up finishing the story in about 16 hours. I’m going through to S rank all the levels in the main story and treasure modes. A pretty solid Musou title. Unfortunately I don’t really connect with the One Piece lore like I did the other licensed games. Not sure why but oh well, I’m still having fun with this game.
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: bork on November 28, 2022, 08:17:03 AM
I’m playing One Piece Warriors 4. It’s fun even though I know nothing about One Piece. The world isn’t really captivating to me either to learn more, unlike the Gundam Warriors games. I’d love to play another one of those. The third Gundam Warriors game was fantastic.

I wound up finishing the story in about 16 hours. I’m going through to S rank all the levels in the main story and treasure modes. A pretty solid Musou title. Unfortunately I don’t really connect with the One Piece lore like I did the other licensed games. Not sure why but oh well, I’m still having fun with this game.

It's one of the better licensed games for sure.
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on January 20, 2023, 06:57:30 AM
As an update:

- I S-ranked the stages in One Piece 4 and ended up around 60 hours.

- Playing Dragon Quest Heroes 2. I remember not being overly impressed with the first one but I really like the second one. Per various walkthroughs I perused, I’m about halfway through.
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: bork on January 20, 2023, 07:52:09 AM
I actually kinda enjoyed DQ Heroes 1, although I never finished it.  Found the sequel much more impressive and played through a chunk of the import, but then never started over in English.  Kept waiting for a localized Switch version that never ended up happening.  Should check that out again on the Steam Deck!

My musou backlog is getting ever-larger:

-DQ Heroes II
-One Piece Pirate Warriors 4 (am at the end and just need to finish it up)
-Hyrule Warriors Age Of Calamity (am maybe halfway done)
-Samurai Warriors 5
-Fire Emblem Warriors Three Hopes

Was also thinking about playing through the original Hyrule Warriors again since I never finished the bad guy side campaign on Wii U.  And then there's all that added DX content. :dizzy
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on January 21, 2023, 10:15:25 AM
I too was hoping an English version of DQ Heroes I and II would come out for the Switch.

I never was a big fan of Hyrule Warriors despite playing it twice on the Wii U and Switch :lol
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on January 29, 2023, 04:53:18 PM
Finished DQ Heroes 2 at around 40 hours and this game impressed me a lot. I’d consider it on the cusp of the upper tier Musou games. There were a few obnoxious items, like some side quests where I had to collect items from monsters with low drop rates. Sometimes the characters moved too slow to my liking but the fast travel zoom stones made this pretty tolerable at the time.

Considering it’s been 6-7 years since Heroes 2 came out, I doubt there will be a part 3. I recommend it, it’s available on PS Plus.
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on February 11, 2023, 09:54:25 AM
I’ve been playing Warriors All Stars and it’s very middling. Feels like Omega Force puts in much more of an effort with the licensed games than the original games. Maybe Square Enix, Nintendo, et. al hold them accountable and thus produce better Musou games than when they’re on their own.
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: bork on February 11, 2023, 11:21:35 AM
I’ve been playing Warriors All Stars and it’s very middling. Feels like Omega Force puts in much more of an effort with the licensed games than the original games. Maybe Square Enix, Nintendo, et. al hold them accountable and thus produce better Musou games than when they’re on their own.

This game was such a disappointment, especially with it following up on the excellent WO3U.  It did have some pretty fun character additions, but was otherwise very mediocre at best. Major performance issues pre-ps4 pro, too.  It runs great on PC, but there's issues with the display because the options available are very limited.
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on March 06, 2023, 09:43:48 PM
I beat All Stars with 70 hours on the clock but a few of those hours were me taking a nap or walking my dog. The game grew on me but the sparse number of stages was tiresome, the gameplay was way too simple for a 2017-era Musou, and the furries were disturbing. I might need to take a break from Musou games for a while :lol
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: bork on March 06, 2023, 10:25:23 PM
I beat All Stars with 70 hours on the clock but a few of those hours were me taking a nap or walking my dog.

:dead

The game grew on me but the sparse number of stages was tiresome, the gameplay was way too simple for a 2017-era Musou, and the furries were disturbing. I might need to take a break from Musou games for a while :lol

I don't blame you- you're all musou'd out!
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: Bebpo on August 01, 2023, 02:04:18 PM
So I saw PS+ now has DW9 and SW5 on it.

Either of these ones good for musou?
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: pancakesandsex on August 01, 2023, 06:07:24 PM
So I saw PS+ now has DW9 and SW5 on it.

Either of these ones good for musou?

SW5 is good.
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: bork on August 01, 2023, 06:21:54 PM
So I saw PS+ now has DW9 and SW5 on it.

Either of these ones good for musou?

SW5 is good.

And DW9 is bad! 

Easy decision.

One Piece Pirate Warriors 4 is also getting new DLC BTW.
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on August 02, 2023, 07:44:10 AM
I had a lot of fun with SW5. It’s considered a reboot of the series for whatever reason.

Not sure what happened with DW9 but I’m glad they’re taking their time with releasing DW10. Their flagship series is now their weakest. I think DW9 was such a change because there was such minimal change between 7 and 8. When 10 does come out, they need to focus on making it fun to play. Omega Force has had such a strong track record with Musou featuring other property so we know they can do better.
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on August 06, 2023, 10:24:03 PM
I downloaded DW9 too for PS Plus and some of the ideas seemed nice but the execution is just bad. The PS2 era assets are mindblowing to me and there is a mode to cap it at 30 fps :lol Still looked much better than the switch version of DW9 Empires which was just awful. I’m playing this game out of sheer morbid curiosity. I played DW Strikeforce, which is the worst DW game I’ve ever played on a console; my tolerance for shit tier Musou has always been high but DW9 and DW9 Empires is really testing me :lol
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: bork on August 07, 2023, 12:53:12 PM
I downloaded DW9 too for PS Plus and some of the ideas seemed nice but the execution is just bad. The PS2 era assets are mindblowing to me and there is a mode to cap it at 30 fps :lol Still looked much better than the switch version of DW9 Empires which was just awful. I’m playing this game out of sheer morbid curiosity. I played DW Strikeforce, which is the worst DW game I’ve ever played on a console; my tolerance for shit tier Musou has always been high but DW9 and DW9 Empires is really testing me :lol

I couldn't with DW9.  Tried it twice and even with a huge discount on the PC version the second time around, I just couldn't play it and refunded it.
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on August 13, 2023, 07:57:02 PM
DW9 has hooked me for the weekend :lol

This game is not good but I spent 20 hours this weekend on it. My hands are sore from the PS5 controller.
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: bork on August 13, 2023, 11:50:18 PM
DW9 has hooked me for the weekend :lol

This game is not good but I spent 20 hours this weekend on it. My hands are sore from the PS5 controller.

(https://media.tenor.com/ciOgj_3LvKoAAAAd/vomit-jim-carrey.gif)
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on August 29, 2023, 07:25:03 PM
Update: I continue to actually like Dynasty Warriors 9. It’s dull and repetitive but it’s a great game to fritter away an hour or two to take on a few missions, explore all the little things on the map. I understand that this means I have terrible taste as this is a 6/10 Musou game.
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: bork on August 30, 2023, 08:40:39 PM
:dizzy
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on September 04, 2023, 09:27:55 AM
I finished the game and got almost all the trophies. Spent 85 hours on the game, racked up 130,000 KOs and checked out all the landmarks. I’m not going to lie, the game really grew on me and really wound up digging a lot of the concepts in the game, even though there were major flaws.
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: bork on September 04, 2023, 05:05:44 PM
I finished the game and got almost all the trophies. Spent 85 hours on the game, racked up 130,000 KOs and checked out all the landmarks. I’m not going to lie, the game really grew on me and really wound up digging a lot of the concepts in the game, even though there were major flaws.

:salute

I don't think I'd be able to stick with the game for that long!
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on September 06, 2023, 12:32:03 PM
I think the only Musou I hated was Strikeforce and a lot of that is because the console version was a really sloppy port of the PSP original. I was disappointed in Warriors Orochi 4 but I’m going to buy a cheap copy on PS4 and give it another shot. I think the issue is that the Switch version is pretty lazy and poorly optimized.

Update: ordered WO4U and Samurai Warriors Spirit of Sanada, which I’ve never played before.
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: bork on September 06, 2023, 12:47:47 PM
I didn't play Spirit Of Sanada, but read it was kinda bad. 

I played through WO4 and WO4U on Switch.  Definitely doesn't run the best but I still enjoyed it a lot.  The WO3U port is so much better, but now it doesn't matter since it's on Steam and that's the best version for sure.
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: Bebpo on September 06, 2023, 12:51:03 PM
Bandainamco be like "why make One Piece Warriors 5 when we can just keep making DLC forever"

announces 3 new DLC packs coming.
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: bork on September 06, 2023, 01:05:55 PM
Bandainamco be like "why make One Piece Warriors 5 when we can just keep making DLC forever"

announces 3 new DLC packs coming.

https://youtu.be/sD_sWU2zD9Y

One Piece Pirate Warriors 4 is also getting new DLC BTW.
:bolo

This is OK to me if they're good DLC packs.  OPW4 was really good.
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: Bebpo on September 06, 2023, 01:13:31 PM
Hmmm, I never played 4 because it was an original story instead of recreating the manga storylines like 1-3. Plus I think they removed characters from 2/3.

Maybe I should grab it when it's on sale.
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on September 06, 2023, 08:39:38 PM
I agree, One Piece Warriors 4 was very good.

I didn't play Spirit Of Sanada, but read it was kinda bad. 

I played through WO4 and WO4U on Switch.  Definitely doesn't run the best but I still enjoyed it a lot.  The WO3U port is so much better, but now it doesn't matter since it's on Steam and that's the best version for sure.

WO3U is still the best Musou in my opinion.
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: bork on September 06, 2023, 09:11:29 PM
Hmmm, I never played 4 because it was an original story instead of recreating the manga storylines like 1-3. Plus I think they removed characters from 2/3.

I thought it did adapt the manga storyline, but the ending is different because it wasn't finished yet?  Like what they did with 3.  2 is the one with the original story IIRC.

OPM 2-4 are all great games.  We can just forget the first one exists.  :P

Maybe I should grab it when it's on sale.

I actually bought it for a second time- originally on Switch where I played through almost all of it (was at the end), and then again on Steam a few months ago.  It was on sale with all the DLC included for a ridiculously low price- $13.49!  Would recommend wishlisting and seeing if it hits a price that low again.

WO3U is still the best Musou in my opinion.

It's definitely still at the top of my list for sure. 
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: Bebpo on September 06, 2023, 09:22:48 PM
Actually still $13.49 for the deluxe edition. Picked it up!
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: bork on September 06, 2023, 09:31:10 PM
Actually still $13.49 for the deluxe edition. Picked it up!

Nice!  It's a bargain at that price.
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: Bebpo on September 07, 2023, 03:07:28 AM
Played a bit of this. Combat is...pretty different than the old ones. It moves really fast, which is kind of cool but also makes the camera more of a headache for bosses.

Not sure about this shield armor thing. Don't quite understand it. Says you basically need to get behind an enemy when they attack to do shield damage or something but hard to keep track of positioning given the speed.

Everyone seems really strong off the start.
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: bork on September 07, 2023, 09:13:56 AM
Played a bit of this. Combat is...pretty different than the old ones. It moves really fast, which is kind of cool but also makes the camera more of a headache for bosses.

Not sure about this shield armor thing. Don't quite understand it. Says you basically need to get behind an enemy when they attack to do shield damage or something but hard to keep track of positioning given the speed.

Everyone seems really strong off the start.

Don't forget that you can lock onto them, which might help!
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: bork on September 13, 2023, 12:02:48 AM
The first wave of the new OP DLC will be out on 9/14.
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: Bebpo on September 14, 2023, 12:44:59 AM
Yeah, I'm a decent amount of hours into OPW4 now and it's a pretty solid musou.

I like that upgrading the general character map increases stats for every playable character, so you don't have to upgrade everyone from scratch. The sub-missions are fun and the speed of the game is great.

Main story mode is a decent best of moments of a few arcs. The original story part is just for the final Wano arc since the manga arc was still running.

Character unlocks aren't too bad, some of the characters are really distinct and fun to play as. Especially some of the sky type characters that just air dash and air combo non-stop for half the map. Some characters seem pretty shitty tier though. I feel like this is a musou that would benefit from character swapping. Maybe in OPM5.

Overall worth $13. Might pick up the new DLC pack but $30 for like 9 characters is steep, and by the time packs 2/3 come out I'll probably be done with this and moved on, so eh, doubt I'll pick it up.
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: Bebpo on September 23, 2023, 12:28:55 AM
Almost done with the story mode and trying/unlocking all the characters in OPW4. Some of these stages get looong.

If you've read the manga or watched the anime, the story mode is actually a pretty decent recap of the entire series. Refreshed my memory on a lot of arcs I'd forgotten.

I've been mildly addicted to it and keep playing a few more stages each day. Reminds me of what I like and dislike about musou. I can't remember the last musou game I played more than a few hours of and actually unlocked everyone/finished the story mode. Maybe Gundam Musou 3? I played OPW1/2 but I didn't finish either of them. Didn't play 3. Played maybe 5-6 hours of Zelda musou but didn't finish it or get super far. Played a few hours of Berserk/Fist of the North Star.

I think I could probably enjoy a musou game more than once a decade, but maybe not yearly haha. Needs to be the right IP, have decent variety movelists and character build progression, and stages need to be pretty quick (I like that most stages in OPW4 are ~10 mins).

Wouldn't mind going back to Zelda musou at some point or trying the Fire Emblem one (that one was good, right?). But will probably just wait until they do an interesting IP. I don't see a One Piece Warriors 5 in the near future and Gundam Warriors seems pretty dead at the moment.
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on September 23, 2023, 05:53:01 PM
Both Fire Emblem Warriors games are excellent. They are very different games though.

I found myself continuing to play DW9 but deleted it off the drive due to needing file space. I believe I spent over 126 hours on the game and had a KO count of over 250,000. I wound up really liking the game a lot but it was time to finally move on. Playing WO4 Ultimate currently.
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: Bebpo on September 23, 2023, 06:45:25 PM
Yeah, that's another thing. Before I started OPW4 I read you can clear the main story campaign and unlock all the characters in like 20ish hours. That was appealing.

I'd rather play a musou game that's like 20 hours long and then I'm good and move on then a 50-100+ hour one.
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: Bebpo on September 25, 2023, 08:12:39 PM
So I did a mission and lost a territory and it was game over. Never had that happen before. I then spent like 10 mins trying to find what "losing conditions" are in a mission in this game and I can't find it. I only see "victory condition". So like, how do you even tell how you can lose a mission (outside dying)?

Kind of pointless now as I'm done with the story and unlocked all the characters and I'm just going through the treasure log side missions to try everyone, but still seems weird that I can't find what losing conditions are for a map.
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: bork on September 25, 2023, 08:26:38 PM
Did the map not shoe that a territory was being swarmed?  What about NPCs asking for help?
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: Bebpo on September 25, 2023, 08:42:59 PM
Did the map not shoe that a territory was being swarmed?  What about NPCs asking for help?

I mean I think the map always says when a territory is about to be lost, but normally it's not a fail condition if you lose a territory? Never had that happen before.

The game throws out like a new message every 5 seconds so I don't really pay attention besides who I need to punch next.
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: Bebpo on September 26, 2023, 02:52:28 PM
So I've never played any of these games on the higher difficulties/endgame.
I don't really know how to play musou games when I can't just overpower everything  :lol

I'm trying to get all the achievements in OPW4 which means beating the hardest optional stage, almost there and making it ok. I have a maxed out character stat-wise. But boss enemies kill me incredibly fast.

So my strategy is basically putting all the defensive survivability skills I can find on, beat up grunts -> dash near boss and unload all my i-frame cutscene musou attacks -> dash away -> beat up grunts until I fill my musou bar -> dash in and repeat cutscene musous.

It's kind of boring but kiting in and out seems the only way I've figured out how to survive.


Is there a strategy in musou games for the higher difficulties?
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on October 09, 2023, 10:24:15 AM
Kiting in and out was how I did it. I don’t remember what character I used but it worked for me. Maxing out characters too of course.

I’ve been playing WO4U on PS4 and I’m enjoying it a lot. I don’t recall why it didn’t click with me on the Switch but I’m liking it a lot here. I don’t think it’s up to the level of WO3U but I consider that to be the best of the series.
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on November 18, 2023, 04:17:07 PM
Finished WO4U on PS4. I’m glad I replayed it as I was very down on the game the first time but this replay is pretty good. It still lacked the epic feel of WO3U even though Omega Force definitely tried, but missed the mark, in trying to make it more epic. I suspect a WO5 will eventually come out but I appreciate them taking a bit of a break here. I’m sure some Musou games are being worked on.
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: Bebpo on November 18, 2023, 04:33:33 PM
I’m sure some Musou games are being worked on.

With how well they keep selling, yeah, musou ain't ever going to end  :lol

I kind of fell off OPW4. Like I finished the main story and tried most of the cast, but still about a dozen characters I never messed with. I think it's because I ran out of money from the story to be able to unlock the full moveset for each character and it was either grinding coins or trying out characters with their limited moveset which doesn't really give a good feel for them.

Still enjoyed OPW4 a good amount. Will play more musou games in the future, but I need strong SP gameplay loops to get me to stick with them.
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on November 19, 2023, 06:44:29 PM
I played Spirit of Sanada a bit and it’s okay. The Musou gameplay itself is pretty mediocre and the additional single player items are just basic things you’d see on many other Musou games like WO3U and All Stars. The strategem addition, which is providing assistance to other officers during a battle to help meet objectives, is not particularly impressive. This has a mid-to-low tier Musou feel to it, like bork said earlier. I’ll keep playing and see if there’s potential. If I can get something out of DW9, I probably can here :lol
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: bork on November 19, 2023, 07:13:58 PM
I played Spirit of Sanada a bit and it’s okay. The Musou gameplay itself is pretty mediocre and the additional single player items are just basic things you’d see on many other Musou games like WO3U and All Stars. The strategem addition, which is providing assistance to other officers during a battle to help meet objectives, is not particularly impressive. This has a mid-to-low tier Musou feel to it, like bork said earlier. I’ll keep playing and see if there’s potential. If I can get something out of DW9, I probably can here :lol

:salute
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: bork on November 22, 2023, 05:44:09 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5TsAO9F8IQ
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on December 03, 2023, 11:23:39 PM
I finished Spirit of Sanada. Just a little under 45 hours. I liked it quite a bit but I had a lot of issues with the game too:

- Unskippable cutscenes, which is egregious
- Unlike WO4 where you can have pop ups to see how you’re progressing against goals, this doesn’t exist here so you have no idea until it’s too late to see if you failed a mission or not
- Some missions you will fail unless you are in the exact right spot when they pop up. If you’re in the wrong spot, an officer will be too fast or die too quickly
~ The six coin strategems are kind of innovative but kind of dumb too
~ There are many side levels that can slow down the pace but I appreciate the attempts at innovation. However some are going to require lots of grinding to get everything and frankly it’s not worth it
+ The day time and night time mechanics are decent and attempt to be balanced
+ I like the return of functionality of commanding your partner to go elsewhere based on location or officer. They took it out of the games for a long time except for here

I like this game a lot but man there are some big flaws with this game. This is the guy that liked DW9 so my taste is questionable. I can’t say I recommend this game but maybe if it’s free on PS Plus someday lol.
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: bork on December 18, 2023, 12:33:52 PM
https://youtu.be/_-Zv63jJenk

Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on December 20, 2023, 09:24:16 AM
I’m playing through the Berserk Musou title and this one is pretty bad. I’ve never checked out Berserk but I heard some good things about it so I figured I’d check out the Musou title.

- Some of the cutscenes are from the anime and others are in game and it just looks cheap to not be consistent
- The game mechanics are terrible. Why do the horses act like shit when they’ve had the formula for this down pat since the PS2 era?
- Many of the time limit objectives don’t have a visible countdown nor does the game tell you what the time limit is; I had to go online to see best guesses from the community
- Some of the levels are pure aggravation due to how poorly the game is designed. The level where we first encounter Femto might be the worst Musou level/stage I’ve ever played.

Looking at the information online it seems like I’m halfway through. I paid $70 for this C-level Musou game. Feel free to laugh at me.
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: Let's Cyber on December 20, 2023, 05:58:34 PM
I paid full price and didn't even finish it.  :-\
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: bork on December 21, 2023, 08:27:22 AM
but I heard some good things about it so I figured I’d check out the Musou title.

:mindblown

Never listen to whoever told you that again.   :P  And if you're curious about more musou, stay away from the Arslan game- it's also crap.
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on December 21, 2023, 11:53:24 PM
I’ve heard bad things about Arslan too. I have Persona 5 Strikers left and other else than I feel caught up with all the games.
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: bork on December 22, 2023, 08:38:18 AM
The thing about Arslan that still gets to me all these years later is that the show was so much like "Musou: The Series" at times.  When the game got announced I was pretty hyped for it and then it was just crap.  :cry
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on December 25, 2023, 11:09:28 AM
Finished Berserk. Boy, did that game suck. It is the worst Musou game I’ve played since Strikeforce. The last stage in story mode was pretty good and that’s even worse because it shows it could’ve been a competent Musou title. 70 bucks well spent :lol

Samurai Warriors 5 is free on PS Plus so I’m going to play that again.

Edit: SW5 is a breath of fresh air compared to Berserk.
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: Himu on January 18, 2024, 02:39:58 AM
WO3U still the GOAT next to SW2 :bow
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on January 21, 2024, 07:40:15 AM
I S-ranked everything in Samurai Warriors 5. The PS4 version was a lot better looking and performing than the Switch version, at least to me. This is a really good Musou, better than I thought the first time I played this game on the switch.

I think the only Musou title I got in the queue is Persona 5 Strikers. I believe I beat all the PS4 and Switch titles except Arslan which sounds like it’s trash.
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: bork on January 21, 2024, 07:54:09 PM
I S-ranked everything in Samurai Warriors 5. The PS4 version was a lot better looking and performing than the Switch version, at least to me. This is a really good Musou, better than I thought the first time I played this game on the switch.

I think the only Musou title I got in the queue is Persona 5 Strikers. I believe I beat all the PS4 and Switch titles except Arslan which sounds like it’s trash.

I still think it's solid on switch, but no doubt it's better on other platforms. I got it on PC but still need to get to it!
Title: Re: Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors Thread
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on January 27, 2024, 06:45:24 PM
Persona 5 Strikers is not for me. I can’t say it’s a bad game, it’s just the Musou gameplay is not interesting and few and far between all the story elements. I might keep playing every once in a while, we’ll see.