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General => Video Game Bored => Topic started by: Great Rumbler on January 11, 2012, 09:04:42 PM

Title: Sales Bore | Media Create And Other Sale Numbers |OT|
Post by: Great Rumbler on January 11, 2012, 09:04:42 PM
Because nobody likes sales talk in non-sales talk threads.

Notes from Japan for Jan. 2-8:

-3DS has 3 million sellers [Mario Kart 7, Super Mario 3D Land, and Monster Hunter 3 G]
-All 3 titles are the top sellers for the week
-Vita seems to be stabilizing at 42k per week
-3DS sold another 250k units
-No Vita titles in the top 20 [top-selling game sold less than 15k]

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2012-01-11/monster-hunter-3-g-is-japan-latest-3ds-million-seller
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Momo on January 12, 2012, 03:45:26 AM
Does Vita have any killer apps coming for Japan soon?
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Post by: Eel O'Brian on January 12, 2012, 08:21:21 AM
Hmmm, I am thinking Vita bundle around August with game + 4GB card for the same $250. I no longer think they'll drop the base unit price (maybe next holiday), but they'll certainly drop a mid-selling (lol) title and the lowest capacity card in the box.
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Post by: Eel O'Brian on January 12, 2012, 08:29:00 AM
Hell, a 4GB card plus a download code card for your choice of 1-2 games (from a list of everything but something you'd really want, of course) seems the more likely scenario. That way you'd fill the card up right off the bat and have to buy  another.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: T-Short on January 12, 2012, 09:12:47 AM
Famitsu 2011 Top 100 stats was nice

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Top 100 Stats (Famitsu)

Total Software/# of games

PSP - 7,959,421 - 31
PS3 - 6,674,346 - 24
WII - 6,386,085 - 21
3DS - 5,206,558 - 11
NDS - 3,183,597 - 13


Total 3rd-party software/# of games

PSP - 7,689,160 - 29
PS3 - 6,510,080 - 23
3DS - 1,895,218 - 6
NDS - 1,517,658 - 6
WII - 1,198,197 - 6


Total 1st-party software/# of games

WII - 5,187,888 - 15
3DS - 3,311,340 - 5
NDS - 1,665,939 - 7
PSP - 270,261 - 2
PS3 - 164,266 - 1


Publisher Breakdown

1. Nintendo - 9,031,126 - 23
2. Namco Bandai Games - 4,264,346 - 16
3. Square Enix - 3,358,444 - 8
4. Capcom - 3,287,315 - 9
5. Level 5 - 1,653,550 - 7
6. SEGA - 1,507,957 - 6
7. Konami - 1,463,271 - 7
8. Koei-Tecmo - 1,292,169 - 5
9. Nintendo/Pokemon Co. - 1,134,041 - 4
10. SCEI - 434,527 - 3

Others - 1,983,261 - 12

PSP beastin' in the top 100. Also. wow @ Nintendo firstparty sales. talk about domination
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Great Rumbler on January 12, 2012, 10:29:32 AM
PSP's software sales probably get a big bump from Monster Hunter and a combination of the death of the DS and the slow start of the 3DS.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: pilonv1 on January 12, 2012, 05:16:09 PM
Today will be fun...
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Damian79 on January 13, 2012, 01:53:03 AM
I was thinking, in terms of sales there is a greater divide among gamers than ever before(aside from the atari crash).  Making it less of a good thing to cater to the niche market.  Heck even JRPG's are like FF are niche now.  Devs talk about the iphone as the renaissance of gaming.  Do you think thats true.  Should as gamers we be supporting the iphone?
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Stoney Mason on January 13, 2012, 02:18:33 AM
There is no "we" as in gamers. And even if there was it wouldn't matter if "we" "supported" the iphone or not. Hardcore gamers are certainly a decent and money spending part of the market but they don't determine the market. So its best not to talk about these terms in group actions as if we are all one monolithic group in solidarity. The problem with sales talk (and this isn't necessarily aimed at you) is when people mix their desires with their analysis. What is going to happen is going to happen. And it doesn't matter if a certain segment is pro or against that action.

But the point you are really getting at is probably whether tablet/ios gaming/facebook gaming/motion control gaming, etc hurts the hardcore market. I can only speak personally. I like ios gaming. Not too big a fan of the others, but obviously they are filling a need in the market that exists. I don't think its an either or situation. I think the overall market of people defined as playing games increases. Alot of the people who like those kind of games were never going to play hardcore games anyway. The problem isn't necessarily the people who play those things. It's that the people who play certain genres find themselves in a dwindling market for those specific kind of games. The people who use to play certain genres have either lessened in numbers (and this is for lots of reasons. Not just those other forms of gaming) or the rising budgets have made the small amount of people who use to play those games not able to cover the higher production costs that it now takes to make those games.

I think catering to a niche market is fine. Lots of people are making lots of money catering to certain niche markets. The issue is you have to budget your game correctly and really hit the specific needs that target market actually wants.

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Post by: Damian79 on January 13, 2012, 02:26:48 AM
Good post i agree with that.  And just for clarification i was asking whether iphone is such a good thing that we should be supporting it or not.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on January 13, 2012, 07:37:40 PM
You didn't read what he posted.  I'd suggest finding a hobby that doesn't require someone else to make your toys for you.  Or accept jrpgs outside of japan will only live on through Pokemon.

So, uh, Oscar... not asking for specifics, but I have been kind of curious how Kinect performed throughout the year considering its second wave of software came out a year later.  Again, I know numbers is a nono, but did it maintain momentum?  I guess it may be hard to gauge with the bundles MS has going on, I'll admit my bias has diverted my attention if the topic ever came up.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Damian79 on January 13, 2012, 10:03:33 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on January 13, 2012, 07:52:50 PM
Kinect has continued to do very, very well.  It has made fools of most sales hounds, including myself. 

Damian, support games you like.  If they're on the iPhone, then go nuts.  It's not the customer's responsibility to steward the industry to the safest economic paths.  If iPhone's pricing model ends up being bad for the industry, that'll be their problem to solve, not ours.

I am looking to buy an ios device for a game called "the shadow sun" but i have big hands.  I've had a horrendous experience with the ipod touch.  Clearly it wasnt designed for people above the age of 15.  So i dotn knwo if i should get an Ipad or an Iphone.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: tiesto on January 13, 2012, 10:11:16 PM
Quote from: EmCeeGrammar on January 13, 2012, 07:37:40 PM
You didn't read what he posted.  I'd suggest finding a hobby that doesn't require someone else to make your toys for you.  Or accept jrpgs outside of japan will only live on through Pokemon.

That's bullshit and you know it.

Personally, I'm looking forward to the day the IOS/social gaming/casual gaming bubble busts. It's gonna happen eventually...
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Stoney Mason on January 14, 2012, 12:12:12 AM
Quote from: tiesto on January 13, 2012, 10:11:16 PM
Personally, I'm looking forward to the day the IOS/social gaming/casual gaming bubble busts. It's gonna happen eventually...

Some of those absolutely will not burst. Although they won't keep expanding at the same current high rate. Gaming is going to be more stratified across multiple platforms for the near future until cloud shit can really take off. All the signs point to it. More people will game across lots of different outlets. And alot of those people aren't likely to be hardcore gamers.

I'm fine with that. Things change. Things don't remain the same. That's the lesson of life. There will also always be a hardcore market although some people may not like what may define "hardcore".
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Stoney Mason on January 14, 2012, 12:31:10 AM
Quote from: Damian79 on January 13, 2012, 10:03:33 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on January 13, 2012, 07:52:50 PM
Kinect has continued to do very, very well.  It has made fools of most sales hounds, including myself. 

Damian, support games you like.  If they're on the iPhone, then go nuts.  It's not the customer's responsibility to steward the industry to the safest economic paths.  If iPhone's pricing model ends up being bad for the industry, that'll be their problem to solve, not ours.

I am looking to buy an ios device for a game called "the shadow sun" but i have big hands.  I've had a horrendous experience with the ipod touch.  Clearly it wasnt designed for people above the age of 15.  So i dotn knwo if i should get an Ipad or an Iphone.

I don't know if I would buy a device for one game but yeah my problem with touches and iphones is that it really does become a problem if you have largish sized hands. I always had an issue with that on my iphone because my fingers obscured the screen so much. That problem is completely eliminated with ipad games. Although like I said, I wouldn't buy an ipad for just one game. (or even a couple of games). You really have to have some actual use for the device along with the gaming to justify it and I consider myself a real fan of ios gaming but I'm also not delusional.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Tasty on January 14, 2012, 01:02:53 AM
I still wanna know MH3's US LTD.  :maf
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Trent Dole on January 14, 2012, 01:17:35 AM
The xxxperts at vgchartzzz say Sonic did .8mil so Mh3's done lower than that-ish I guess? (Google is your friend)
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Damian79 on January 14, 2012, 01:21:46 AM
Quote from: Stoney Mason on January 14, 2012, 12:31:10 AM
I don't know if I would buy a device for one game but yeah my problem with touches and iphones is that it really does become a problem if you have largish sized hands. I always had an issue with that on my iphone because my fingers obscured the screen so much. That problem is completely eliminated with ipad games. Although like I said, I wouldn't buy an ipad for just one game. (or even a couple of games). You really have to have some actual use for the device along with the gaming to justify it and I consider myself a real fan of ios gaming but I'm also not delusional.

Nice.  Ipad it is.  Anyone know of any other good crpgs coming out for the ipad?
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Trent Dole on January 14, 2012, 03:22:34 AM
Yeaaah I didn't think their #s were particularly accurate but they were the first seemingly useful result!
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Tasty on January 14, 2012, 05:16:36 AM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on January 14, 2012, 03:08:14 AM
Lol vgchartz

Only overestimated by about 400k this time, good for them!

Chartz put Tri US at 482k so that's pretty bad if it's 400k less than that. :'(

Edit- Trolling Capcom financial PDFs is a lot less revealing than going through Nintendo's. I guess I shouldn't be surprised.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Tasty on January 14, 2012, 05:26:42 AM
So what's the big secret about sales data. ::)
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Stoney Mason on January 14, 2012, 05:52:55 AM
Quote from: Andrex on January 14, 2012, 05:26:42 AM
So what's the big secret about sales data. ::)
Individuals can get into trouble through their companies for leaking NPD data since its a paid service.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Tasty on January 14, 2012, 07:05:49 AM
But most of it comes out in financials and PR anyways. It's sort of pathetic that this forum which is completely OK with piracy and all kinds of other things is still beholden to NPD and are deathly afraid of releasing any numbers.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Stoney Mason on January 14, 2012, 07:24:10 AM
Quote from: Andrex on January 14, 2012, 07:05:49 AM
But most of it comes out in financials and PR anyways. It's sort of pathetic that this forum which is completely OK with piracy and all kinds of other things is still beholden to NPD and are deathly afraid of releasing any numbers.

That was dumb. Just saying.

No one is gonna risk their job so you can satisfy your curiosity about Monster Hunter.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: pilonv1 on January 14, 2012, 07:40:43 AM
Quote from: Andrex on January 14, 2012, 07:05:49 AM
But most of it comes out in financials and PR anyways. It's sort of pathetic that this forum which is completely OK with piracy and all kinds of other things is still beholden to NPD and are deathly afraid of releasing any numbers.

Most of what? You get some basic unit sales and value figures. The people who actually need and use the numbers get infinitely more than what you see.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Tasty on January 14, 2012, 10:22:22 AM
Whatever. It's a broken system and I don't support it. ::)
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Post by: Tasty on January 14, 2012, 11:24:35 AM
Oh no, I got the hints. But yes, I'm frustrated us normal plebs can't ever know any kind of specifics regarding sales.

There should be a Wikileaks for NPD.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: cool breeze on January 14, 2012, 11:25:11 AM
sales talk is a nintendo system's killer app.  are you so surprised?
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Post by: HyperZoneWasAwesome on January 14, 2012, 12:36:27 PM
sales leaks is what drew me to GAF in the first place.  For about a year it was awesome, you got full publisher breakdowns month by month and were readily able to gauge any title's success or lack thereof.  It did make for better and more informed video game disscussion, but its not anything that we should have or ever felt entitled to.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Trent Dole on January 14, 2012, 02:13:05 PM
I honestly think the amount of secrecy surrounding sales in the industry is fuckin' weird but if it's what they wanna do we just have to deal basically.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: iconoclast on January 14, 2012, 02:41:58 PM
Quote from: Trent Dole on January 14, 2012, 02:13:05 PM
I honestly think the amount of secrecy surrounding sales in the industry is fuckin' weird but if it's what they wanna do we just have to deal basically.

nobody must know how badly our games sold!
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Joe Molotov on January 14, 2012, 02:57:26 PM
Quote from: Trent Dole on January 14, 2012, 02:13:05 PM
I honestly think the amount of secrecy surrounding sales in the industry is fuckin' weird but if it's what they wanna do we just have to deal basically.

I think the attention paid to Metacritic ratings is even more weird; you don't see Michael Bay writing angry rants about Rotten Tomatoes and how Transformers 3 should have gotten all 8's and 9's because the fans enjoyed it.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Great Rumbler on January 14, 2012, 03:04:20 PM
It's always sad to see a game you really like get low scores, but there are people on GAF that flip their lid when a game with near-perfect scores gets a single score that isn't in line with the others.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Stoney Mason on January 14, 2012, 04:11:40 PM
The over secrecy on game sales and just general game info is a bit weird especially when you compare it to something like the movie industry which lives a lot of its life out in public. The review thing is a holdover to times when reviews actually did matter in the game industry. Since nobody actually cares about the industry awards for games, the only real way to display pride about your craft is either through sales or review scores.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Joe Molotov on January 14, 2012, 08:19:05 PM
Quote from: Great Rumbler on January 14, 2012, 03:04:20 PM
It's always sad to see a game you really like get low scores, but there are people on GAF that flip their lid when a game with near-perfect scores gets a single score that isn't in line with the others.

Well, gamers are distinguished mentally-challenged fellows obviously, but I mainly meant industry people.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: HyperZoneWasAwesome on January 15, 2012, 01:42:51 AM
the movie industry is actually pretty secretive about lots of things.  Box office grosses are comprehensivley known, but DVD/Blu-Ray, VOD, and any other revenue stream is a damn mystery.  If you want to know exactly how a movie makes money being on Netflix's streaming service, or how much it makes, you'd be as well off going to a movie equivlent of VG Chartz for all the info that's out there.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: AdmiralViscen on January 15, 2012, 08:57:54 AM
I wish e-heroes like Andrex could focus on the real NPD - the Nougat and Peanuts Delegation. They have been withholding data on the sales of kit kats, snickers, and hundred grand for decades. I need to know what impact Hershey's bliss has had on cookies and cream. Is milky way dark a dying market? Should I preorder a case to contribute to future development of the brand?
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Flannel Boy on January 15, 2012, 09:17:26 AM
Quote from: AdmiralViscen on January 15, 2012, 08:57:54 AM
I wish e-heroes like Andrex could focus on the real NPD - the Nougat and Peanuts Delegation. They have been withholding data on the sales of kit kats, snickers, and hundred grand for decades. I need to know what impact Hershey's bliss has had on cookies and cream. Is milky way dark a dying market? Should I preorder a case to contribute to future development of the brand?

re-uploaded (only one I have left on my HDD).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GFL6d-cbK60
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on January 16, 2012, 03:40:15 PM
I would say I find it amusing that the usual suspects crop up in the npd threads/elsewhere claiming to not give a shit, but its honestly perplexing and irritating.

I like sales because it gives perspective.  Perspective means I don't act like an ass because one of my pet franchises isn't performing and gets shitbinned.  RIP Viewtiful Joe.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: demi on January 16, 2012, 03:44:21 PM
Viewtiful Joe died after the first game anyway. The rest shouldnt exist.
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Post by: Bebpo on January 16, 2012, 03:52:21 PM
2 was still pretty good even if forgettable compared to the original.

:bow Kamiya :bow2
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: maxy on January 17, 2012, 05:31:38 AM
this thread is a bit yucky but

http://www.amazon.co.jp/gp/bestsellers/2011/videogames/ref=zg_bsar_cal_ye (http://www.amazon.co.jp/gp/bestsellers/2011/videogames/ref=zg_bsar_cal_ye)

 :D

Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: maxy on January 17, 2012, 05:53:35 AM
interesting,not surprising considering 360 retail (non)popularity
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Post by: pilonv1 on January 17, 2012, 06:47:13 AM
amazon best seller lists? one step away from chartzzzzzzzzzzz data
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: chronovore on January 17, 2012, 10:55:00 AM
Quote from: Stoney Mason on January 14, 2012, 12:12:12 AM
I'm fine with that. Things change. Things don't remain the same. That's the lesson of life. There will also always be a hardcore market although some people may not like what may define "hardcore".

This just made me remember when, to be the best possible experience, multiplayer gaming required that all the players physically move their desktop PCs and monitors (heavy CRT jobbies at that) to a single location, wired everything up on the LAN, and one of the players usually had to be an IT guy to get the network up and running.

To me, that was hardcore. Just to play the game, we'd do all that. And now we bitch and whine if some minor feature of the game was not included in the hand-holding tutorial portion of the game. And we bitch if the tutorial is too long as well.

"Hardcore" -- :lol
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: AdmiralViscen on January 17, 2012, 12:21:29 PM
Quote from: EmCeeGrammar on January 16, 2012, 03:40:15 PM
I would say I find it amusing that the usual suspects crop up in the npd threads/elsewhere claiming to not give a shit, but its honestly perplexing and irritating.

I like sales because it gives perspective.  Perspective means I don't act like an ass because one of my pet franchises isn't performing and gets shitbinned.  RIP Viewtiful Joe.

I'm not against sales talk, just andrex's sense of blind entitlement
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Stoney Mason on January 17, 2012, 05:38:11 PM
Quote from: chronovore on January 17, 2012, 10:55:00 AM
Quote from: Stoney Mason on January 14, 2012, 12:12:12 AM
I'm fine with that. Things change. Things don't remain the same. That's the lesson of life. There will also always be a hardcore market although some people may not like what may define "hardcore".

This just made me remember when, to be the best possible experience, multiplayer gaming required that all the players physically move their desktop PCs and monitors (heavy CRT jobbies at that) to a single location, wired everything up on the LAN, and one of the players usually had to be an IT guy to get the network up and running.

To me, that was hardcore. Just to play the game, we'd do all that. And now we bitch and whine if some minor feature of the game was not included in the hand-holding tutorial portion of the game. And we bitch if the tutorial is too long as well.

"Hardcore" -- :lol

My first example of pulling the "hardcore" card was as a kid when graphic adventures came around and displaced text adventures. I felt they were dumbing down the genre.  :)


Also


(http://indiegames.com/2012/01/17/estimated-2011-hardware-unit-sales.png)
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on January 17, 2012, 05:44:36 PM
I have to LOL at the chart because I hear occasional rumblings from Sfags that insist the PS3 is second place worldwide.  Even if 360 is deader than dead in Japan, that 2.8 million hardware difference certainly closes the gap.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Great Rumbler on January 17, 2012, 06:19:35 PM
That chart really shows how badly the Wii is dying off, dropped nearly 3 million while the PS3 and the Xbox360 actually increased. Also shows that the 3DS is making a big push, taking the DS's place.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Tasty on January 17, 2012, 07:26:51 PM
Quote from: AdmiralViscen on January 17, 2012, 12:21:29 PM
Quote from: EmCeeGrammar on January 16, 2012, 03:40:15 PM
I would say I find it amusing that the usual suspects crop up in the npd threads/elsewhere claiming to not give a shit, but its honestly perplexing and irritating.

I like sales because it gives perspective.  Perspective means I don't act like an ass because one of my pet franchises isn't performing and gets shitbinned.  RIP Viewtiful Joe.

I'm not against sales talk, just andrex's sense of blind entitlement

I don't understand.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: AdmiralViscen on January 17, 2012, 09:50:17 PM
Quote from: Andrex on January 14, 2012, 07:05:49 AM
But most of it comes out in financials and PR anyways. It's sort of pathetic that this forum which is completely OK with piracy and all kinds of other things is still beholden to NPD and are deathly afraid of releasing any numbers.

.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Tasty on January 18, 2012, 03:32:16 AM
Not really entitlement, just amusement and frustration things aren't more open.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: pilonv1 on January 18, 2012, 05:58:03 AM
Like it matters anyway, the difference of a few million either side isn't going to have an impact on anything.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Cheebo on January 18, 2012, 08:11:46 AM
Quote from: tiesto on January 13, 2012, 10:11:16 PM
Quote from: EmCeeGrammar on January 13, 2012, 07:37:40 PM
You didn't read what he posted.  I'd suggest finding a hobby that doesn't require someone else to make your toys for you.  Or accept jrpgs outside of japan will only live on through Pokemon.

That's bullshit and you know it.

Personally, I'm looking forward to the day the IOS/social gaming/casual gaming bubble busts. It's gonna happen eventually...
There is no such thing as the casual gaming bubble that is somehow going to burst. There have always been casual gamers. Do you think it was just hardcore gamers buying up Tetris for Gameboy in 1989? They played casual games on NES, GameBoy, PSX, etc... The type of simple little puzzle games and brain age sort of software. It's just previously they HAD to buy a game system for those little simple fixes.

Now they don't. They are already buying smart phones and tablets because well, everyone is. They are devices that became a part of regular life and they just happen to play the simple Tetris, Angry Birds, etc. sort of casual games they have always liked. They have no reason to buy a game console for those anymore. Devices they are already buying for other reasons meet their needs.

There is no such thing as a casual gaming bubble. They have always been here and always been part of the industry. It is just they no longer need to buy game systems to meet their needs for simple addictive well made casual games. They can get them on their iPhones and iPads.

115 million iPhones and 55 million iPad's are projected to sell in 2012 alone. And nearly all of them will probably be buying some games. The market isn't going away just because you may not like it. It's always been here. It is just they are buying their Tetris/Brain Age equivalents that they have been buying for decades on devices they already want for non-gaming reasons.

I don't get why some people see this market as some kind of threat. It's always been there, it's just that they used to have to use the same hardware as "us". Dudebro games are doing just fine. iOS is never going to kill off the CoD's, Halo's, GTA's, etc... It's not the same market. It's like thinking because some kiddie Disney movies does great that's bad news for big action sci-fi blockbusters. It's nonsense.

The only thing you could argue is going away is the western japafag market. JRPG's and the like are dying off here. Who knows what happened to them, the anime obsessed teenagers of the 90's/00's grew up and play Skyrim and Saints Row now I guess.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on January 18, 2012, 09:42:05 AM
Right, except for pokemon.  Final Fantasy is surely and slowly losing it institution status.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Cheebo on January 18, 2012, 10:02:12 AM
Quote from: EmCeeGrammar on January 18, 2012, 09:42:05 AM
Right, except for pokemon.  Final Fantasy is surely and slowly losing it institution status.
Yeah it's really the exception. Really in general outside of Nintendo Japanese games have lost the interest of gamers in the west.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: tiesto on January 18, 2012, 12:04:35 PM
Quote from: Cheebo on January 18, 2012, 10:02:12 AM
Quote from: EmCeeGrammar on January 18, 2012, 09:42:05 AM
Right, except for pokemon.  Final Fantasy is surely and slowly losing it institution status.
Yeah it's really the exception. Really in general outside of Nintendo Japanese games have lost the interest of gamers in the west.

And that's a shame, since mechanically, many Japanese games are much better than western ones...
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Phoenix Dark on January 18, 2012, 12:23:21 PM
Quote from: tiesto on January 18, 2012, 12:04:35 PM
Quote from: Cheebo on January 18, 2012, 10:02:12 AM
Quote from: EmCeeGrammar on January 18, 2012, 09:42:05 AM
Right, except for pokemon.  Final Fantasy is surely and slowly losing it institution status.
Yeah it's really the exception. Really in general outside of Nintendo Japanese games have lost the interest of gamers in the west.

And that's a shame, since mechanically, many Japanese games are much better than western ones...

Ahahahahahahahahahshahahshshshsa
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Steve Youngblood on January 18, 2012, 12:36:38 PM
Quote from: Cheebo on January 18, 2012, 08:11:46 AM
I don't get why some people see this market as some kind of threat. It's always been there, it's just that they used to have to use the same hardware as "us". Dudebro games are doing just fine. iOS is never going to kill off the CoD's, Halo's, GTA's, etc... It's not the same market. It's like thinking because some kiddie Disney movies does great that's bad news for big action sci-fi blockbusters. It's nonsense.
I think it's reactionary based on market analysis that investment needed to concentrate on the casual market. Big Studio X announces another quarterly loss, meanwhile Zynga would announce massive profits. You'd see an announcement that EA was closing Pandemic Studios a week after purchasing Play Fish. Shaky starts for the new handhelds had analysts suggesting that the end is near as smartphones and tablets are the one-stop shop for portable gaming. You see this stuff, and people start to erroneously think that Farmville presents a threat to their favorite AAA franchise.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: tiesto on January 18, 2012, 12:37:45 PM
Quote from: Phoenix Dark on January 18, 2012, 12:23:21 PM
Quote from: tiesto on January 18, 2012, 12:04:35 PM
Quote from: Cheebo on January 18, 2012, 10:02:12 AM
Quote from: EmCeeGrammar on January 18, 2012, 09:42:05 AM
Right, except for pokemon.  Final Fantasy is surely and slowly losing it institution status.
Yeah it's really the exception. Really in general outside of Nintendo Japanese games have lost the interest of gamers in the west.

And that's a shame, since mechanically, many Japanese games are much better than western ones...

Ahahahahahahahahahshahahshshshsa

What do you know, you don't even play games anymore :P
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Stoney Mason on January 18, 2012, 12:48:28 PM
Wait till it hits America. It's gonna be a bloodbath.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Great Rumbler on January 18, 2012, 12:49:44 PM
18k. Ouch.

Everything dropped from last week, but the 3DS managed to still stay about 100k.

15 of the top 20 titles were on the 3DS and Wii.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Eel O'Brian on January 18, 2012, 01:03:49 PM
well, sony did do just about everything they could to sabotage that initial swell of goodwill
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Cheebo on January 18, 2012, 01:16:16 PM
Was PSP doing this bad after soon launch in Japan?
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Great Rumbler on January 18, 2012, 01:28:07 PM
See for yourself:

(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k33/GreatRumbler/mc-10-handhelds-weekly-line-89.png)
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: chronovore on January 18, 2012, 05:20:56 PM
Quote from: Stoney Mason on January 17, 2012, 05:38:11 PM
My first example of pulling the "hardcore" card was as a kid when graphic adventures came around and displaced text adventures. I felt they were dumbing down the genre.  :)

My man.
:raised_on_infocom.txt
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: pilonv1 on January 18, 2012, 05:45:37 PM
:yuck pantherlotus
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on January 18, 2012, 07:34:33 PM
Sony better be marching tout de suite over to Capcom to start sucking as much cock as possible to steal Monster Hunter away from the 3DS.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: AdmiralViscen on January 18, 2012, 09:12:04 PM
Quote from: Cheebo on January 18, 2012, 08:11:46 AM
Quote from: tiesto on January 13, 2012, 10:11:16 PM
Quote from: EmCeeGrammar on January 13, 2012, 07:37:40 PM
You didn't read what he posted.  I'd suggest finding a hobby that doesn't require someone else to make your toys for you.  Or accept jrpgs outside of japan will only live on through Pokemon.

That's bullshit and you know it.

Personally, I'm looking forward to the day the IOS/social gaming/casual gaming bubble busts. It's gonna happen eventually...
There is no such thing as the casual gaming bubble that is somehow going to burst. There have always been casual gamers. Do you think it was just hardcore gamers buying up Tetris for Gameboy in 1989? They played casual games on NES, GameBoy, PSX, etc... The type of simple little puzzle games and brain age sort of software. It's just previously they HAD to buy a game system for those little simple fixes.

Now they don't. They are already buying smart phones and tablets because well, everyone is. They are devices that became a part of regular life and they just happen to play the simple Tetris, Angry Birds, etc. sort of casual games they have always liked. They have no reason to buy a game console for those anymore. Devices they are already buying for other reasons meet their needs.

There is no such thing as a casual gaming bubble. They have always been here and always been part of the industry. It is just they no longer need to buy game systems to meet their needs for simple addictive well made casual games. They can get them on their iPhones and iPads.

115 million iPhones and 55 million iPad's are projected to sell in 2012 alone. And nearly all of them will probably be buying some games. The market isn't going away just because you may not like it. It's always been here. It is just they are buying their Tetris/Brain Age equivalents that they have been buying for decades on devices they already want for non-gaming reasons.

I don't get why some people see this market as some kind of threat. It's always been there, it's just that they used to have to use the same hardware as "us". Dudebro games are doing just fine. iOS is never going to kill off the CoD's, Halo's, GTA's, etc... It's not the same market. It's like thinking because some kiddie Disney movies does great that's bad news for big action sci-fi blockbusters. It's nonsense.

The only thing you could argue is going away is the western japafag market. JRPG's and the like are dying off here. Who knows what happened to them, the anime obsessed teenagers of the 90's/00's grew up and play Skyrim and Saints Row now I guess.

Can you repeat that paragraph a few more times
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on January 18, 2012, 09:23:51 PM
I just saw the Vita numbers.  How low can it go...

I wouldn't be surprised to see the ps4 try to pull off a wii scenario in the future. The whole tech arms race is yielding no success.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on January 18, 2012, 10:57:24 PM
I think people know absolutely fuck all about the future of iOS gaming.

Using Cheebs' theory that because 170+ million units of whatever shit Apple pushes out this year, that iOS gaming will be huge has worked out so handsomely well for the PC, hasn't it?  In just one facet of PCs, in 2010, Intel says that over 85 million netbooks have sold (the number is probably double that if not more currently).  How well has that translated to netbook friendly PC gaming?  The assumption that because people have a device that can work for gaming instantly translates to a booming gaming business clearly is not the case.

I could just as easily see iOS gaming backfire due to the glut of low quality shit.  People will look at what's out there, say "fuck that" and download another light app instead.  Like many things, if consumers keep getting burned, even with 99 cent applications, people will start shying away.  While I'm not saying iOS gaming will fail, the fact that it has a shitware ratio that makes the Atari 2600 look great in comparison can't be healthy for the future of the platform.

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I just saw the Vita numbers.  How low can it go...

I wouldn't be surprised to see the ps4 try to pull off a wii scenario in the future. The whole tech arms race is yielding no success.

The Vita just seems like a stillbirth to me.  Maybe there will be an awesome emulation scene and I can play Model 3 and Wii games flawlessly on the Vita.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Mr. Gundam on January 18, 2012, 11:41:15 PM
Quote from: Cheebo on January 18, 2012, 10:02:12 AM
Quote from: EmCeeGrammar on January 18, 2012, 09:42:05 AM
Right, except for pokemon.  Final Fantasy is surely and slowly losing it institution status.
Yeah it's really the exception. Really in general outside of Nintendo Japanese games have lost the interest of gamers in the west.

Hi there. I like Western games, but my main interest is still non-Nintendo Japanese gaming. I know tiesto is right there with me.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Mr. Gundam on January 19, 2012, 12:52:04 AM
If something gets localized I buy it but I'll also gladly import it and not bitch.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: cool breeze on January 19, 2012, 01:42:15 AM
Japanese games probably lost mainstream appeal because Japanese devs myopically focus on Japan gamers.  Chicken or egg, whatever.  It seems like Nintendo is the only common link between them (lowest common denominator joke or something).

Excluding Nintendo the most popular games seem really different.  For instance, in America we have this online thing and it seems pretty popular.  In Japan, they seem more interested in handhelds with local multiplayer.  Although there are other common grounds. In Japan, there are mahou loli rape simulators.  In America, there are bioware games.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Stoney Mason on January 19, 2012, 02:44:13 AM
Japanese games aren't as popular this gen over here for lots of reasons.

The difference in the size and importance in the handheld market between the two regions.
The rise of online gaming.
The rise of Xbox or just in general the rise of a non Japanese console manufacturer.
The rise of "Hollywood" or big budget gaming where presentation and immersion focus on Western themes and interests along with a trend toward realistic graphics

blah blah blah etc etc we all know this.

Japanese games probably won't ever dominate Western Markets like they once did but its not like they've dissappeared and they will always serve their home market which means many of them will be brought over anyway.

You can exclude Nintendo of course from all this talk about Japanese Gaming as they tend to have a lot more universal philosophy when it comes to their products.



Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Cheebo on January 19, 2012, 05:46:01 AM
Quote from: The Experiment on January 18, 2012, 10:57:24 PM
I think people know absolutely fuck all about the future of iOS gaming.

Using Cheebs' theory that because 170+ million units of whatever shit Apple pushes out this year, that iOS gaming will be huge has worked out so handsomely well for the PC, hasn't it?  In just one facet of PCs, in 2010, Intel says that over 85 million netbooks have sold (the number is probably double that if not more currently).  How well has that translated to netbook friendly PC gaming?  The assumption that because people have a device that can work for gaming instantly translates to a booming gaming business clearly is not the case.

I could just as easily see iOS gaming backfire due to the glut of low quality shit.  People will look at what's out there, say "fuck that" and download another light app instead.  Like many things, if consumers keep getting burned, even with 99 cent applications, people will start shying away.  While I'm not saying iOS gaming will fail, the fact that it has a shitware ratio that makes the Atari 2600 look great in comparison can't be healthy for the future of the platform.


Hasn't netbook sales gone downhill due to the rise of tablets? PC sales in general have been cannibalized by tablets but I thought I saw somewhere that netbooks have really taken a hit due to it. I thought I read that somewhere. Plus there was no viable gaming outlet for netbooks. There was no strong Microsoft app store to make up for the lack of a disk drive.

Edit here we go: http://www.thegurureview.net/computing-category/netbook-sales-fall-40-percent.html
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Eel O'Brian on January 19, 2012, 09:49:03 AM
Some of it had to do with most netbooks being really shitty the first couple of years, too. It's hard to shake that first impression. I think the past flood of bare-minimum netbooks with barely-usable Win7 has a lot to do with MS drawing a pretty firm line for Win8 tablet hardware requirements.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Steve Youngblood on January 19, 2012, 09:56:19 AM
Quote from: The Experiment on January 18, 2012, 10:57:24 PM
I think people know absolutely fuck all about the future of iOS gaming.
Well, it depends on what we're talking about. Will it ever completely replace dedicated handhelds? That remains to be seen. Right now, it doesn't seem like there's a major stakeholder (i.e. Apple or any smartphone-centric developer) trying to bring a big-event title to the platform. I've never seen an iOS game advertised outside of having a 2 second placement in a montage of different games. I don't ever know when anything is coming out unless I've been uncharacteristically following the title specifically. So, there's nothing out there that even comes close to matching the enthusiasm of something like "new Monster Hunter!" or "new Pokemon!" day.

I'm not really seeing any indications that this is going to change any time soon, either. So, in that light, I do think that there may be some degree of hyperbole by some that thinks that the market is just going to keep accelerating in growth at a rapid clip and become the de facto gaming platform. There's still a lot of money to be made in selling full-priced games to enthusiastic nerds, and that market isn't really catered to on smartphones.

However, I don't think it shows any signs of declining in health either, and I don't know why it would. There's enough decent stuff out there -- even among the crap -- for people to keep buying. And playing games on the device you're already carrying is never going to stop being convenient; there's always going to be a market there. Even if that market never matures into the market that can support blockbuster, AAA titles, it'll still be there.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Great Rumbler on January 19, 2012, 09:51:35 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on January 19, 2012, 09:48:40 PM
these are posts that would otherwise be made in other threads

Exactly.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: pilonv1 on January 19, 2012, 10:28:36 PM
just dont look
just dont look
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: chronovore on January 21, 2012, 03:54:19 PM
Quote from: Borys on January 19, 2012, 04:46:52 PM
In 8 days this thread got 3 pages long. A sales thread. On EvilBore.

This is not the good old EvilBore :'(
Otoh this is the only sales thread.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: maxy on January 24, 2012, 02:12:04 PM
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2012-01-24-uk-pc-download-chart-to-launch-next-month (http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2012-01-24-uk-pc-download-chart-to-launch-next-month)

Quote
A weekly UK PC download chart goes into public beta next month, entertainment trade body UKIE has announced.

A closed beta has been running for a few months now, but the general public will finally be able to view the data from February.

A number of key industry players have contributed to getting the chart - which is the first of its kind - off the ground, including Disney Interactive Studios, Focus Multimedia, Get Games, Green Man Gaming, Mastertronic, NCsoft, Sega, Square-Enix, Ubisoft and Warner Bros.

There was no mention of Steam in UKIE's announcement.

"UKIE is committed to measuring the size of the digital games market and is delighted to announce that it will be launching a public Beta of the UKIE PC Download Chart in February," commented UKIE CEO Jo Twist.

"Having this digital data alongside our UKIE Games Charts for boxed products, will allow the games industry to lobby government even more effectively, and allow our members to make informed and fact based commercial decisions."

Geoff Heath, head of UKIE's Digital Group, called for more publishers to get involved with the project.

"We all hear that digital sales are growing but we don't know by how much or in which area. UKIE's PC Download Chart is a first step to getting a full understanding of where the industry is developing but this is just the beginning and we still need more input from industry. We need your data!"

UKIE, which sends out the weekly top 40 data that you see on this site every Monday, also announced its intent to get PlayStation Network and Xbox Live Arcade charts off the ground next.

well,it's a start
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Great Rumbler on January 24, 2012, 02:46:34 PM
Without Steam, it's pretty much useless though. :(
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: maxy on January 24, 2012, 03:14:42 PM
They should get EA(Origin) on board.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Great Rumbler on January 25, 2012, 03:19:06 PM
Notes from Japan:

-FFXIII-2 has topped out at 750k~
-Vita has dropped to 15k, 3DS to 80k [still the top console]
-Top 4 games on the 3DS, no Vita games in top 20 [meaning the lowest was sub-5.5k]
-Beyond the Labyrthin [Konami RPG on 3DS] sold 14k in its first week
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Tasty on January 25, 2012, 03:25:47 PM
Quote from: Great Rumbler on January 25, 2012, 03:19:06 PM
-Beyond the Labyrthin [Konami RPG on 3DS] sold 14k in its first week

 :o That's not good, but then again I guess we couldn't have expected much better.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Bebpo on January 25, 2012, 03:29:52 PM
Basically shit week for everything

Except, Rhythm Thief did fine.  If it comes to the US I see there being at least 1 sequel.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Tasty on January 25, 2012, 07:05:59 PM
Quote from: Bebpo on January 25, 2012, 03:29:52 PM
Basically shit week for everything

Except, Rhythm Thief did fine.  If it comes to the US I see there being at least 1 sequel.

Really?! :uguu

That's awesome. Game looks awesome.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Bebpo on January 25, 2012, 07:09:20 PM
Yeah, 30k opening is not bad for a new ip low budget Sega game in today's Japanese market of "if you can reach 100k, you are amazing".  It opened better than the Feel the Magic games by the same team.

If it's low budget enough and has any legs at all or sells ok at all in foreign countries, it seems like a sequel would be a lock.  Sega likes sequels generally.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: originalz on January 25, 2012, 09:48:59 PM
Quote from: Andrex on January 25, 2012, 03:25:47 PM
Quote from: Great Rumbler on January 25, 2012, 03:19:06 PM
-Beyond the Labyrthin [Konami RPG on 3DS] sold 14k in its first week

 :o That's not good, but then again I guess we couldn't have expected much better.

I played this game at TGS and thought it was kind of shit, to be honest.  The controls weren't really done well and the combat seemed clunky and unnecessary complicated.  Who knows, maybe the full game is better, but I'm not exactly rushing to find out.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on January 25, 2012, 10:59:11 PM
Quote from: Great Rumbler on January 25, 2012, 03:19:06 PM
Notes from Japan:

-FFXIII-2 has topped out at 750k~
-Vita has dropped to 17k, 3DS to 80k [still the top console]
-Top 4 games on the 3DS, no Vita games in top 20 [meaning the lowest was sub-5.5k]
-Beyond the Labyrthin [Konami RPG on 3DS] sold 14k in its first week

You're wrong -- the 17k number is for PSP.  The Vita is at 15k.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Tasty on January 25, 2012, 11:03:48 PM
Quote from: The Experiment on January 25, 2012, 10:59:11 PM
Quote from: Great Rumbler on January 25, 2012, 03:19:06 PM
Notes from Japan:

-FFXIII-2 has topped out at 750k~
-Vita has dropped to 17k, 3DS to 80k [still the top console]
-Top 4 games on the 3DS, no Vita games in top 20 [meaning the lowest was sub-5.5k]
-Beyond the Labyrthin [Konami RPG on 3DS] sold 14k in its first week

You're wrong -- the 17k number is for PSP.  The Vita is at 15k.

 :o
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Trent Dole on January 25, 2012, 11:19:02 PM
Wait for... uh... somethin'!
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Cormacaroni on January 25, 2012, 11:22:26 PM
That's the real reason why this thread is so short. No need to say anything at all about numbers like that. 15k :lol
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: maxy on January 26, 2012, 05:13:36 AM
lots of numbers for the interested

http://andriasang.com/comzro/nintendo_earnings/ (http://andriasang.com/comzro/nintendo_earnings/)

http://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/pdf/2012/120126e.pdf (http://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/pdf/2012/120126e.pdf)
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Great Rumbler on January 26, 2012, 09:29:07 AM
Wii's probably gonna make it past 100 million worldwide in another year or so.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on January 26, 2012, 07:31:47 PM
I could definitely see the Vita bottoming out at 8-12k for a long time.

For Sony's sake, I hope they're beating down the doors of Capcom and Square-Enix wanting some great and exclusive content real quick like.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: chronovore on January 29, 2012, 01:42:46 PM
Quote from: Cormacaroni on January 25, 2012, 11:22:26 PM
That's the real reason why this thread is so short. No need to say anything at all about numbers like that. 15k :lol
There is one thing you could say:
spoiler (click to show/hide)
DOOMED!
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Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Joe Molotov on January 29, 2012, 03:39:05 PM
Wait for the Vita redesign....and Versus XIII port...
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Tasty on January 29, 2012, 03:51:35 PM
Quote from: Joe Molotov® EDGE™ on January 29, 2012, 03:39:05 PM
Wait for the Vita redesign....and Versus XIII port...

Wait for [the end of time]? Sounds like Vita alright.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on January 29, 2012, 08:29:25 PM
I can never tell if Andrex is in on the joke or hopelessly oblivious.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Tasty on January 29, 2012, 08:44:41 PM
Usually in between the two. I will say 90% of my posts here are joke posts structured around what people here think of me/the standard nintenbot.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Great Rumbler on February 01, 2012, 06:46:30 PM
Notes from Japan:

-Vita surged to 18k after the release of Tales of Innocence R [55k in week one, #3 position]
-RE: Revelations debuted at 146k
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Mr. Gundam on February 01, 2012, 08:54:47 PM
Armored Core V did really well. I think a lot better than anyone thought.

It will surely bomba here, though.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: maxy on February 02, 2012, 02:29:47 AM
copy-paste from some other forum


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(Millions of U.S. dollars)

Sales and Operating Revenue --> $ 23,370

Operating Loss --> $ 1,176

Net Loss --> $ 2,038

PS3 Worldwide Unit Sales (Unit:Million)
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Hardware Sales   Ap-Jn    Jl-Sp    Oc-Dc    Ja-Mr     FY       LTD

FY 2006/07         -        -       1.7      1.8      3.5      3.5

FY 2007/08        0.7      1.3      4.9      2.2      9.1      12.6

FY 2008/09        1.6      2.4      4.5      1.6      10.1     22.7

FY 2009/10        1.1      3.2      6.5      2.2      13.0     35.7

FY 2010/11        2.4      3.5      6.3      2.1      14.3     50.0

FY 2011/12        1.8      3.7      6.5       -       12.0     62.0


Software Sales   Ap-Jn    Jl-Sp    Oc-Dc    Ja-Mr     FY       LTD

FY 2006/07         -        -       5.2      8.1      13.3     13.3

FY 2007/08        4.7      10.4     26.0     16.8     57.9     71.2

FY 2008/09        22.8     21.2     40.8     18.9     103.7    174.9

FY 2009/10        14.8     23.9     47.6     29.3     115.6    290.5

FY 2010/11        24.8     35.3     57.6     30.2     147.9    438.4

FY 2011/12        26.1     37.4     66.2       -      129.7    568.1

(http://www.sony.net/SonyInfo/IR/financial/fr/viewer/11q3/slide/image/16_image.jpg)

http://www.sony.net/SonyInfo/IR/financial/fr/11q3_sony.pdf (http://www.sony.net/SonyInfo/IR/financial/fr/11q3_sony.pdf)


Dreams of outselling xbawks have now officially gone into "everything is fine at THQ" territory.

Kaz will have to answer some tough questions.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Stoney Mason on February 02, 2012, 02:33:31 AM
Quote
TOKYO (Reuters) - Japan's ailing electronics giant, Sony Corp, warned investors on Thursday it was heading for a worse-than-expected $2.9 billion annual loss, revealing the daunting task ahead for its incoming chief executive, Kazuo Hirai.

The company, overtaken by more innovative rivals such as Apple and Samsung over the past decade, gave the forecast in its third-quarter results, surprising a market that had been expecting a full-year loss of barely half that amount.

Sony said it expected to make a loss of 220 billion yen ($2.9 billion) for the year to March, its fourth straight year of red ink, including a hefty $1.2 billion operating loss for the third quarter and a steep slide in sales at its troubled TV unit.

"It won't be easy for Sony to regain its lost ground under new leadership, as its overall competitiveness has sharply weakened," said Kim Young-Chan, analyst at Shinhan Investment Corp in Seoul.

"It's got structural problems that will take years to fix. "It's not just Sony but Japanese IT firms have similar problems. They are failing to innovate and produce industry-leading products in almost every major area from TVs to displays, tablets and smartphones."

The market had been expecting a net loss of 132.8 billion yen ($1.7 billion) for the full year to March, according to Thomson Reuters I/B/E/S data.

Sony kept its annual LCD TV sales forecast unchanged at 20 million on Thursday, but cut its forecasts for digital camera and PlayStation 3 hardware sales.

The company is installing Hirai, a company veteran, to stop the rot in its troubled TV business and to rekindle the innovative spirit that had made it a king of the global consumer electronics industry in the 1980s and into 1990s.

Hirai, who revived Sony's PlayStation gaming business, was named on Wednesday to take over from Howard Stringer effective April 1.

Sony shares closed down 2.6 percent ahead of the results in a market that rose 0.8 percent.

There is unlikely to be a honeymoon period for Hirai, who is under immediate pressure to sort out Sony's ailing TV business after it fell behind South Korean rivals such as Samsung Electronics in a market where prices are tumbling.

Above all, Hirai will strive to recapture the innovative flair that led Sony to dream up the Walkman personal music-player in the 1980s and the PlayStation in the 1990s, and regain ground lost since then to Apple Inc and Samsung whose iPhones, iPods and Galaxy gadgets are snapped up by consumers.

Some analysts believe 51-year-old Hirai -- tall, urbane and a fluent English speaker -- can rekindle the flame, saying he has a good grasp of the overall business and is likely to know how to break down its silos and integrate its divisions.

Others are not so sure.

"The biggest issue is top management ... There needs to be a vision for the products, for innovation," said a former Sony executive who felt that a new management mindset was needed.

He told Reuters he believed Sony would ultimately shut the TV business unless it came up with fresh ideas to revive it. "There is still a chance in home electronics, but I imagine the day may come when they will pull the plug on TVs," he said.

Hirai, who made his name hauling the wayward PlayStation division back into the black two years ago, sketched out his priorities in a statement on Wednesday night.

He said Sony needed to drive growth of its core electronics businesses, such as digital imaging, games and mobile devices, turn around its TV business and accelerate innovation.

Hirai's predecessor, Welsh-born Stringer, a former journalist who ran U.S. broadcaster CBS, had been brought in as a rare foreign CEO in Japan to shake things up, but many analysts see his major achievement as cost-cutting.
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Post by: Stoney Mason on February 02, 2012, 02:37:57 AM
Wait until the Vita's start flying off the shelves in America.

That will surely save them!
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Post by: maxy on February 02, 2012, 02:46:30 AM
Sony pulling out of TV business would really make me :(
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Post by: Stoney Mason on February 02, 2012, 02:51:36 AM
I think the more interesting part is the idea that Sony truly can't launch a next gen console right now with these financials, not that they were going to in the near future. The Playstation 3 will continue on because it literally has to. They can't even cut the price again to spur sales at the moment because it would kill their bottom line. There definitely ain't gonna be a PS4 until 2014 earliest. Hell maybe 2015.

And I was joking about the Vita but good lord they better hope that thing takes off in Japan because it is dead on arrival in America. I would be terrified to put that product on the current market. A $250 to $300 handheld system in the age of tablets, iphones, a 3DS, and actual cheaper consoles. Not pretty.
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Post by: pilonv1 on February 02, 2012, 05:00:58 AM
Quote from: Stoney Mason on February 02, 2012, 02:37:57 AM
Wait until the Vita's start flying off the shelves in America.

When retailers return unsold stock?
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: maxy on February 02, 2012, 05:59:42 AM
Quote from: Stoney Mason on February 02, 2012, 02:51:36 AM
I think the more interesting part is the idea that Sony truly can't launch a next gen console right now with these financials, not that they were going to in the near future. The Playstation 3 will continue on because it literally has to. They can't even cut the price again to spur sales at the moment because it would kill their bottom line. There definitely ain't gonna be a PS4 until 2014 earliest. Hell maybe 2015.

And I was joking about the Vita but good lord they better hope that thing takes off in Japan because it is dead on arrival in America. I would be terrified to put that product on the current market. A $250 to $300 handheld system in the age of tablets, iphones, a 3DS, and actual cheaper consoles. Not pretty.

just for fun

Overclocked Vita hardware in PS3 like casing,TV out.Sony top devs making games for both,one game runs on both devices,think min max PC :D

/end fun


Hard to predict but i'm pretty sure about this,

Competition pushes new systems,publishers follow--few next next gen announcements kill PS3 hype/sales.

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Post by: Trent Dole on February 02, 2012, 03:44:29 PM
Well the Weeoooooo is supposedly going to be a smidge ahead of the current machines so that could be a threat to them in glorious Nippon but seeing how well third party publishers tend to do on Ninty home consoles I doubt too many of them will jump over. The 720 or whatever is a possible threat in japan maybe if it's first and way ahead of other offerings but MS would have to make a huge effort over there which they've already done several times to no avail.
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Post by: Trent Dole on February 02, 2012, 05:27:17 PM
Quote from: dcharlie on February 02, 2012, 04:53:23 PM
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Well the Weeoooooo is supposedly going to be a smidge ahead of the current machines

or, you know, just 20% behind X720 - depending on which random nonsense one choses to believe.
Yeah that's not happening with a company as maddeningly conservative as the one we're talking about here.
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Post by: Tasty on February 02, 2012, 06:36:02 PM
::)


I feel like 3DS is pretty competitive. They could have skimped on a lot but they didn't. Instead of only being a step up over DS it's a definite step up over PSP as well.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Damian79 on February 02, 2012, 06:42:04 PM
Quote from: Trent Dole on February 02, 2012, 05:27:17 PM
Yeah that's not happening with a company as maddeningly conservative as the one we're talking about here.

Yeah they are in the business to make money.  I believe they want to get to that $250 price tag as quickly as possible.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Stoney Mason on February 02, 2012, 08:30:24 PM
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It’s not good times over at THQ headquarters, which expected to spend today’s quarterly earnings all pumping its fists about the great sales of WWE 12 and Saints Row: The Third, and instead had to explain how uDraw turned into a monstrously bad bet for it.

THQ is sitting on no less than 1.4 million unsold uDraw tablets. The success of uDraw on Wii convinced THQ it could see similar results on Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3. That wasn’t the case.

“Unfortunately, we were wrong,” said THQ CEO Brian Farrell.

That’s an understatement.

Here are the most interesting bits I jotted down from today’s call:

THQ lost roughly $30 million on their high-definition uDraw bet.
Confidence was misplaced on uDraw, but it was a catalyst to “evaluate our business from top to bottom.”
THQ has ceased production of uDraw hardware, has a plan to move the rest of the units through retail channels, but has no further plans for uDraw.
The plan is to now “transform THQ into a smaller, more agile entertainment company.”
Looking toward the future, it “intends to launch new franchises as future platforms are introduced.”
Saints Row: The Third represents largest “owned IP” launch in THQ history.
uDraw was approximately $100M below expectations.
THQ’s quarterly earnings would have doubled without uDraw in the mix.
THQ is going “to be a smaller company,” and next year, net sales should be “roughly half.”
Darksiders was not marketed aggressively enough, but Darksiders 2 will “build on the quality of the experience,” and THQ hopes to elevate the brand into a “mass market event” by doubling marketing.
Characterized Metro: Last Light as a sequel to a game that was a “high quality title that had very limited marketing,” and delaying the sequel to “fully realize the value of this hidden gem to enhance and polish the gameplay.” Also, way more marketing.
Homefront ultimately shipped nearly 3 million copies, and sold 1 million in its first week.
THQ said Homefront’s online consumer experience “suffered from technical issues.”
The upcoming Warhammer 40,000: Dark Millenium Online is a game where THQ has to be “realistic about [their] resources” and is seeking a partner to work on the game with.
uDraw was meant to be a bridge to “core to digital future” and turned to be a “plank.”
THQ now has “very realistic expectations” (read: lower) for future sales of games.
As for Patrice Désilets next game, he’s still in “early pre-production on his project,” and there will be more detail on that “at the right time, but he’s “pleased with progress at building the team.”
In addition to collaborating on the MMO, Relic is “highly focused on RTS.”
As for the future of Saints Row, Volition is “dedicated to the Saints Row franchise.”

http://www.giantbomb.com/news/tidbits-from-todays-unhappy-thq-earning-call/3961/
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Post by: Bebpo on February 02, 2012, 09:40:02 PM
Honestly that's a fairly re-assuring list of points.  Makes it feel like Saints Row 4 is safe (although also makes it feel like Violition is now stuck doing nothing but SR games for the rest of their career), that Darksiders 2 will get a good marketing push, that Metro 2 will be fine, and that Patrice's game is still going to be made.

Only downside is that the MMO sounds like it's in trouble for sure.  But since I don't play MMOs I'm not as bothered by that.
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Post by: Mr. Gundam on February 02, 2012, 09:43:26 PM
Quote from: Bebpo on February 02, 2012, 09:40:02 PM
Only downside is that the MMO sounds like it's in trouble for sure.  But since I don't play MMOs I'm not as bothered by that.

All MMOs that aren't called WOW are in trouble.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: pilonv1 on February 02, 2012, 09:50:23 PM
Quote
uDraw was approximately $100M below expectations.

Who set that forecast?
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Post by: maxy on February 03, 2012, 01:44:29 AM
Sounds like a dream machine :hyper
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Post by: iconoclast on February 03, 2012, 04:27:24 AM
 :lol uDraw must have been one of the biggest bombs this gen.
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Post by: pilonv1 on February 03, 2012, 04:31:49 AM
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THQ has said it has no further plans for uDraw after it revealed that the failed expansion of its tablet peripheral to PS3 and Xbox 360 has cost it $80 million in lost revenue.

Speaking during an investor call after the publication of its dismal third-quarter results, the publisher said it had shipped a million uDraw tablets to retailers, leaving 1.4 million units of manufactured stock left unsold.

1.4million? :lol
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Post by: HyperZoneWasAwesome on February 03, 2012, 04:41:52 AM
if THQ has 1.4 million Udraw's warehoused, how many are on store shelves still unsold?
I mean, dammmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmn that is bad, bad, bad.

I really want THq to stick around, they've got too many good developers on their hook and theirs would be a crushing loss to the industry.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: The Sceneman on February 03, 2012, 08:15:19 AM
I havent even heard of uDraw!
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Great Rumbler on February 03, 2012, 10:38:44 AM
Quote from: The Sceneman on February 03, 2012, 08:15:19 AM
I havent even heard of uDraw!

I've noticed it around in a few places, but never looked closely enough to actually see what it was.
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Post by: chronovore on February 03, 2012, 11:05:19 AM
It's cheap everywhere right now. Funny that they extrapolated a market on PS3 and 360 from its performance on Wii. Way to go, Marketing!
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Great Rumbler on February 03, 2012, 11:20:48 AM
Yeah, it blows my mind that they actually thought they could repeat the success of uDraw Wii on the Xbox360/PS3.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Mr. Gundam on February 03, 2012, 01:06:30 PM
So when are uDraws going to show up at Big Lots for $25?
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Post by: Stoney Mason on February 03, 2012, 03:54:34 PM
Quote from: Mr. Gundam on February 03, 2012, 01:06:30 PM
So when are uDraws going to show up at Big Lots for $25?

The funny thing is now I want one at a stupid low price just because.  :P


Also


(http://i.imgur.com/9dkWO.jpg)

Remember this

(http://images.wikia.com/vgsales/images/9/93/ProjectedConsoleChart_v1_460x323.gif)
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Post by: Eel O'Brian on February 03, 2012, 04:38:29 PM
There's a uDraw version of Pictionary. That and the tablet thing in a bundle might be worth 20 bones for get-togethers.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: maxy on February 08, 2012, 01:30:57 PM
http://www.4gamer.net/games/117/G011794/20120208058/ (http://www.4gamer.net/games/117/G011794/20120208058/)
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3DS   75,018
PS3   23,293
Vita   17,141
PSP   15,847
Wii   8,814
Xbox 360   1,382
DSi LL   1,090
DSi   669
PS2   481

It looks like Vita will stabilize somewhere around 15k
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Great Rumbler on February 08, 2012, 01:56:15 PM
The hardware sales wouldn't be so worrying for the Vita if the software was actually selling, but I think total software sales might actually be LOWER than the hardware sales.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Mr. Gundam on February 08, 2012, 02:00:47 PM
Has the "Vita has no games" meme started yet?
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: maxy on February 08, 2012, 02:14:19 PM
No

I think that majority agrees that Vita "has games",just not the ones that people really really want to play.
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Post by: Bebpo on February 08, 2012, 02:16:56 PM
Quote from: Great Rumbler on February 08, 2012, 01:56:15 PM
The hardware sales wouldn't be so worrying for the Vita if the software was actually selling, but I think total software sales might actually be LOWER than the hardware sales.

It's around 1:1 in Japan not counting digital sales.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Great Rumbler on February 08, 2012, 02:19:34 PM
Quote from: Mr. Gundam on February 08, 2012, 02:00:47 PM
Has the "Vita has no games" meme started yet?

I think it's more like "No one cares about Vita's games."
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Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on February 08, 2012, 04:56:35 PM
Quote from: chronovore on January 18, 2012, 05:20:56 PM
Quote from: Stoney Mason on January 17, 2012, 05:38:11 PM
My first example of pulling the "hardcore" card was as a kid when graphic adventures came around and displaced text adventures. I felt they were dumbing down the genre.  :)

My man.
:raised_on_infocom.txt

True, but that's NOTHING compared to the holy war of KQV/SQIV replacing the text parser with a graphical interface...
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: pilonv1 on February 08, 2012, 05:28:53 PM
Quote from: Mr. Gundam on February 08, 2012, 02:00:47 PM
Has the "Vita has no games" meme started yet?

should be arriving with the "Wait till Monster Hunter" meme
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: maxy on February 15, 2012, 10:18:47 AM
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3DS 67,558
PS3 22,002
PSP 15,860
Vita 13,939
Wii 8,206
PS2 1,239
Xbox 360 1,139
DSi LL 957
DSi 651

Suikoden - 62k
Gravity Daze 43k


http://www.4gamer.net/games/117/G011794/20120215060/ (http://www.4gamer.net/games/117/G011794/20120215060/)

titanic.gif
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Great Rumbler on February 15, 2012, 10:26:29 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jkowBtwnHM
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Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on February 15, 2012, 10:31:51 AM
3DS had similiar sales so it's no big thang.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Great Rumbler on February 15, 2012, 10:52:10 AM
3DS:

374,000
209,000
96,000
61,000
50,000
42,000
32,000
28,000
23,000
28,000
29,000
18,000
17,000
24,000
27,000
24,000
40,000
27,000
30,000
22,000
46,000
31,000
16,000
4,000 [price cut]
197,000 [price cut]
106,000
60,000
54,000

Vita:

324,000
72,000
42,000
42,000
18,000
15,000
19,000
14,000

Please take note of key differences.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Stoney Mason on February 15, 2012, 10:55:21 AM
Methodis prefer his own reality so those numbers aren't needed.

Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on February 15, 2012, 10:59:12 AM
w/e who cares waht you 360 fanboys think.
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Post by: maxy on February 15, 2012, 11:06:41 AM
you do :D
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Post by: Shaka Khan on February 15, 2012, 01:06:56 PM
It used to be the running joke, but now I'm really hesitant about picking up a Vita in fear of a price drop. The future is bleak, at least with what we know so far.
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Post by: Eel O'Brian on February 15, 2012, 01:17:42 PM
price drop is doubtful, permanent bundles (mem card, game) for the same price is likely
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Post by: Shaka Khan on February 15, 2012, 01:20:11 PM
That will do as well. Although I might pass by Target next week to take advantage of the B2G1 special. The again, what if game prices bombs in the next month or two?
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on February 15, 2012, 01:20:30 PM
Japan is a bad indication of how things are in america; The 360 constantly tanked over there yet it never signaled a price drop here.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: AdmiralViscen on February 15, 2012, 08:07:29 PM
I'd buy a vita if it came with a minimum 16gb card for $250.
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Post by: maxy on February 17, 2012, 12:25:55 PM
Some interesting info from UK

http://www.mcvuk.com/news/read/revealed-the-real-size-of-the-uk-games-market/091345 (http://www.mcvuk.com/news/read/revealed-the-real-size-of-the-uk-games-market/091345)
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The High Street may be having a tough time, but the UK games market is still incredibly healthy, MCV research shows today.

For the first time, we can reveal the true value of the UK games market, showing that consumers spent over £3bn on their hobby in 2011.

It's proof that mobile, downloads and licensed toys are picking up the slack as other parts of the market soften.

This impressive figure – £3.226bn to be precise -  includes data on online, mobile, and merchandising.

And it flies in the face of conventional wisdom which says market shrinkage hit during the last 12 months.

In fact, when you combine data from some of the most respected research agencies, as we have below, you see game brands are more powerful than ever, even if the core High Street is facing some of its most challenging trading weeks.

Add online revenues to boxed market data and it’s clear digital made up 30 per cent of a £2bn UK software market last year.
2011 was also a watershed year for spin-off toys, DVDs and soundtracks, making £70m in revenue last year.
(http://www.mcvuk.com/_media/images/bigmarketvalue.jpg)

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BRITAIN'S £3.266 BILLION GAMES BONANZA

£520m SPENT ON ONLINE GAMES
Xbox Live subscriptions, casual games, social gaming, download to own and streaming/on-demand games
Source: Nick Parker/IHS Screen Digest

£158m SPENT ON MOBILE GAMING
Download-to-own apps and in-game purchases
Source: Juniper Research

£60m SPENT ON TOYS & MERCHANDISE
Spin-off toys and products based on video game properties such as Sonic, Moshi Monsters and Mario
Source: NPD Group

£7.5m SPENT ON GAMES MUSIC & FILMS
Soundtracks and movie/anime spin-offs
Source: Official Charts Company and label estimates

£2.2m SPENT ON EVENT TICKETS
Price paid by attendees to get into consumer shows like Eurogamer Expo, GAMEfest, MCM Expo
Source: Industry estimates

£452m SPENT ON CONSOLE HARDWARE
Pure games machines such as 360, PS3, Wii, 3DS/DS, PSP, etc.
Source: GfK Chart-Track annual data

£646m SPENT ON PERIPHERALS & ACCESSORIES
Peripherals plus Xbox Live and PlayStation Network pre-paid cards
Source: GfK Chart-Track annual data

£1.42bn SPENT ON BOXED SOFTWARE
PC and console games sold on the High Street, at supermarkets or via online retailers
Source: GfK Chart-Track annual data

...THAT'S A MARKET WORTH AT LEAST £3.266 BILLION.
(And 30% bigger than the allegedly 'declining' UK market figures published in January)

Nature always finds a way...
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Post by: maxy on February 21, 2012, 09:59:21 AM
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2012-02-21-the-witcher-2-sold-1-1-million-copies-in-2011#comments (http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2012-02-21-the-witcher-2-sold-1-1-million-copies-in-2011#comments)
Quote
Fantastic PC (and soon Xbox 360) RPG, The Witcher 2, sold 1,110,055 copies last year, developer CD Projekt Red has revealed.


Of those copies, 270,000 were sold via digital distribution platforms: 40,000 on GOG.com, which leaves the lion's share of the remainder presumably to Steam (numbers not disclosed).
But most "remarkable" to CDPR managing director Adam Badowski, was that 401,543 copies of The Witcher 1 were sold last year.

bu bu bu Steam


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Post by: Great Rumbler on February 21, 2012, 10:08:20 AM
Very nice.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 21, 2012, 01:47:43 PM
How much of sales does Steam get for titles sold? I'm assuming it works somewhat like iTunes right
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: archie4208 on February 21, 2012, 01:54:23 PM
Rumored to be 30%, but there is no concrete evidence.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Great Rumbler on February 22, 2012, 11:24:53 AM
Vita - 12,300

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jkowBtwnHM

spoiler (click to show/hide)
3DS - 96,000

LovePlus 3DS - 109,000
ThreatRhythm - 67,000
[close]
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: maxy on February 27, 2012, 04:40:38 AM
Media Create Sales Stats: Vita 3G vs Wi-Fi, 3DS vs GBA vs DS
http://andriasang.com/con03o/media_create_stats/ (http://andriasang.com/con03o/media_create_stats/)

UK data has started trickling

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PlayStation Vita launch title Uncharted: Golden Abyss has claimed top spot in the new UK all-format charts.

Vita exclusive FIFA Football was second.

The two games accounted for 50 per cent of the total Vita software sold last week. There were 23 launch titles in total.

Other Vita games managing a place in the top 40 included WipEout 2048 (11th place), Ridge Racer (28th) and Everybody's Golf (32nd). And multi-platform game Rayman Origins shot up from 36th to 5th after the release of its Vita version.

Full chart track PR
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Almost a year after Nintendo’s 3DS launch (week 12, 2011) and we welcome Sony’s Vita hand-held, available in Wi-Fi and 3G versions (79% of Vita sales in week 1 were for the Wi-Fi version).

There are 23 Vita launch titles at retail (compared to 16 for 3DS week 1), but 2 key Vita titles account for 50% of sales units and lie at No1 & No2 on the All Formats Chart. Sony’s Vita ‘Uncharted: Golden Abyss’ is the new No1 (31% of week 1 Vita sales) and EA’s Vita ‘FIFA Football’ is the new No2 (18% of Vita sales).

In comparison, the week 1 No1 on 3DS ‘Super Street Fighter IV 3D Edition’ accounted for 15% of 3DS week 1 software sales. Last week’s No1, THQ’s ‘UFC Undisputed 3’ drops to No3 (-53%) and Ubisoft’s ‘Rayman Origins’ climbs 31 places to No5 (+197%), powered by a new Vita version, No4 on the Vita Top 20.

The biggest non-Vita launch is EA’s re-boot of UK developer Bullfrog’s ‘Syndicate’ which debuted back in week 26, 1993 for Amiga and PC. The new ‘Syndicate’ is Swedish (developed by StarBreeze) and debuts here at No7 for 360/PS3/PC.

The next new entry at No11 is Sony’s Vita ‘Wipeout 2048’, actually No3 on the Vita Top 20. Following on from that we have Nintendo’s Wii ‘The Last Story’ at No15, developed by Mistwalker, the studio of Hironobu Sakaguchi, creator of the Final Fantasy series of videogames.

New at No17 is Bethesda’s ‘Fallout: New Vegas Ultimate Edition’ which contains all mission expansion add-on packs.
UFC3 last week sales were about 33k,according to gaf pal sales genius

Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on February 27, 2012, 12:01:49 PM
Vita has a better attache rate than 3DS out the gate and that is much more important to developers. :bow Sony
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Post by: Great Rumbler on February 27, 2012, 12:06:03 PM
Uh...no. I'm pretty sure developers don't much care about attach rates.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on February 27, 2012, 12:09:20 PM
uhhhh yes the ydo. stop backpeddling NINTARD
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Great Rumbler on February 27, 2012, 12:32:09 PM
Back-pedaling...?
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on February 27, 2012, 01:31:47 PM
(31% of week 1 Vita sales) and EA’s Vita ‘FIFA Football’ is the new No2 (18% of Vita sales).

In comparison, the week 1 No1 on 3DS ‘Super Street Fighter IV 3D Edition’ accounted for 15% of 3DS week 1 software sales. Last week’s No1, THQ’s ‘UFC Undisputed 3’ drops to No3 (-53%) and Ubisoft’s ‘Rayman Origins’ climbs 31 places to No5 (+197%), powered by a new Vita version, No4 on the Vita Top 20.

 ???
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Great Rumbler on February 27, 2012, 01:45:33 PM
:rofl
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on February 27, 2012, 01:46:38 PM
31 + 18 are bigger than 15  ???
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Flannel Boy on February 27, 2012, 01:47:40 PM
Also higher than your IQ.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on February 27, 2012, 01:50:14 PM
o wow thats such a sick burn  where did you come up with taht in seapple?
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Momo on February 27, 2012, 01:51:08 PM
attach rates can only be derived from the total software market (unit) v hardware sales (unit) sales.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on February 27, 2012, 01:53:13 PM
no
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Great Rumbler on February 27, 2012, 01:55:26 PM
Quote from: Thomas Householmes Lane on February 27, 2012, 01:46:38 PM
31 + 18 are bigger than 15  ???

Methodis, dude, that 31 and 18 means those games sold 31% and 18% of total Vita SOFTWARE sales for the week.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on February 27, 2012, 02:01:16 PM
(http://i.minus.com/ib0OwqDUaSRpzx.jpg)
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Flannel Boy on February 27, 2012, 02:12:54 PM
System A sell 1,000 units.
System A sells 1 game
Game X accounts for 100% of the games sold

What is the attach rate?
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on February 27, 2012, 02:25:16 PM
1,000 how do u not know this lawyer boy  ???
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on February 27, 2012, 02:26:43 PM
Quote from: Flannel Boy on February 27, 2012, 02:12:54 PM
System A sell 1,000 units.
System A sells 1 game
Game X accounts for 100% of the games sold

What is the attach rate?

Heres the algebre:

System = A
you didn't assign a variable to the 1 game so we'll call it Y
game x sold 100% of the games sold
so since u didn't define X as Y, youre saying that Y sold 1 game. X could be ap reorder that was sold with every console therefore
X= A
X= 1,000
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Tasty on February 27, 2012, 06:26:45 PM
Houseowned once again.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on February 27, 2012, 07:06:23 PM
how surprsing a nintenbot doenst know math get outta here
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Tasty on February 27, 2012, 07:13:02 PM
::) How original.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: pilonv1 on February 28, 2012, 03:45:30 AM
you're both lost causes. don't ever ask me for a job
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: pilonv1 on February 28, 2012, 04:40:05 AM
Actually we survived 2G2D pretty good so there are plenty of jobs.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Momo on February 28, 2012, 04:56:23 AM
Question : Has anyone been able to graph the rise of iOS/Android handhelds vs. the decline(is there even a decline) of handheld video game hardware? Is there even a correlation to start a conversation with?
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: tiesto on February 28, 2012, 08:16:00 AM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on February 28, 2012, 03:56:09 AM
pfff, we both know australia doesn't have any jobs

Sure they do:
-Crocodile hunter
-Professional surfer
-Electro house DJ
-uhhh I'll get back to you on the rest...
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: maxy on February 28, 2012, 08:27:15 AM
Quote
Sony Computer Entertainment Inc, today announced that the sales of the PlayStation®Vita (PS Vita) portable entertainment system reached over 1.2 million units worldwide as of February 26, 2012. PS Vita experienced an initial burst of momentum when it launched on December 17, 2011 in Japan followed by Hong Kong, Taiwan and South Korea. Newly launched in North and Latin America, Europe and PAL territories as well as in Singapore on February 22, 2012, sales have exceeded expectations surpassing over 1.2 million units worldwide, firmly establishing PS Vita as the must-have portable entertainment device across the world. Software sales across the globe have surpassed 2.0 million units at both retail and on PlayStation®Network.

“PS Vita was designed to deliver the ultimate portable entertainment experience, and we couldn’t be more thrilled with the reaction we’re seeing from consumers and the pace at which PS Vita is selling,” said Andrew House, President and Group CEO, Sony Computer Entertainment Inc. “The market has responded and there is clear demand for a mobile device capable of providing a revolutionary combination of rich gaming and social connectivity within a real world context. To sustain momentum, we’re working closely with 3rd party developers and publishers to ensure the best games and franchises possible will be available on PS Vita, and our software line up for the remainder of 2012 will have something for everyone across the globe.”

PS Vita introduces new ways to play, delivering deep and immersive gameplay experiences that have never been offered on any other handheld gaming device. Equipped with dual analog sticks, a vibrant 5-inch high definition OLED multi-touch screen, powerful quad core processor, six-axis motion sensing system, built in microphone, and front and rear cameras, PS Vita is the ultimate portable entertainment system. In addition to the ultimate portable gaming experience, by having both Wi-Fi and 3G network connectivity, together with various applications, PS Vita will enable infinite possibilities for users to “encounter,” “connect,” “discover,” “share” and “play” with friends wherever they are.

With more than 25 titles currently available in North and Latin America, Europe and the PAL territories and Japan* respectively including EA SPORTS FIFA Football, Ultimate Marvel vs Capcom®3 from Capcom, UNCHARTEDTM: Golden Abyss, WipEout® 2048 and Escape Plan from SCE Worldwide Studios, as well as over 70 titles in development, PS Vita is poised to drive continued momentum across the globe.

It lives.

I guess this is shipped,otherwise they would say sell-through.

edit:Sony confirmed it's sold


Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Momo on February 28, 2012, 08:51:46 AM
"1.2 million units worldwide"

About half Japan (where sales have slowed) and half rest of the world correct?
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: maxy on February 28, 2012, 08:58:00 AM
Quote
Japan followed by Hong Kong, Taiwan and South Korea. Newly launched in North and Latin America, Europe and PAL territories as well as in Singapore on February 22, 2012,

Japan is about 580k sold
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Great Rumbler on February 28, 2012, 09:10:56 AM
Quote
firmly establishing PS Vita as the must-have portable entertainment device across the world.

Ahahahaha
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on February 28, 2012, 11:45:27 AM
it outsold the 3ds  in europe and prob america how is it "not good"  ???
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Huff on February 28, 2012, 11:53:03 AM
Apparently Sony confirmed that the 1.2 is sold, not shipped.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Great Rumbler on February 28, 2012, 12:03:24 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on February 28, 2012, 09:04:07 AM
Compare to PSP which sold 500k in its first week in NA, 1 million in EU in its first week, and hundreds of thousands more than the Vita in Japan (still digging for the exact number).  Basically at this point the PSP was over the 2 million mark and well on its way to 3.

After digging through the old Media Create threads at GAF, the PSP had sold about 825k units after the first ten weeks.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on February 28, 2012, 12:09:25 PM
it was also literally mind blowing and there wasn't smart phones
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Great Rumbler on February 28, 2012, 12:15:26 PM
The smart phone excuse might work, except for the fact that the 3DS is well ahead of the DS in American and Japan at the same stage in its life.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: maxy on February 28, 2012, 12:26:19 PM
oh no
he will start to teach algebra again
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on February 28, 2012, 12:29:49 PM
LISTEN U FUKKIN MORONS just because it didnt outsell the 3ds dun mean its not "good" wow how do u guys not know this
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Huff on February 28, 2012, 12:34:54 PM
 With the market today, what would have been a good first week in NA and Europe?
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on February 28, 2012, 12:36:46 PM
Quote from: Huff on February 28, 2012, 12:34:54 PM
With the market today, what would have been a good first week in NA and Europe?

apparently 1 million in each market
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on February 28, 2012, 12:43:07 PM
what if thats what I want  ???
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: maxy on February 28, 2012, 01:19:45 PM
uh oh

Quote
Sales of Sony's PS Vita console got off to a "disappointing" start in the UK, it has been confirmed.

Week one Chart-Track figures reveal that Sony's new handheld device sold "around one quarter" of the number of the 185,000 PSP units shifted in the UK during its first week on sale back in September 2005.

Half-hearted

Although exact data has not been publicly announced by either Chart-Track or Sony, industry sources have confirmed that the figure is "just over half" of the 89,000 sold by the Nintendo 3DS in its first week almost a year ago.

With pre-orders of Vita reportedly around the 70,000 mark, Sony will be hoping that the generally positive critical reception to its new device will coax cash-strapped consumers into shelling out for its next generation handheld.

The news comes hours after Sony elected to publish a global figure for Vita sales to date of 1.2 million.

With total Japanese sales confirmed as being 578,812 on February 19th, the remaining 600,000 will have been split between the remaining worldwide territories.

Figures from other Western territories have yet to emerge.

'We all saw it coming'

Meanwhile, one senior source felt that the low UK sales should not come as a surprise.

"It's disappointing, sure, but we all saw it coming," said the source.

"Realistically, I think a lot of people can see it's technically a great system, but people just don't have the cash to shell out for the same game twice. A lot will be waiting for a true system seller before taking the plunge, or, more likely, be happier continuing to pay 69p for dozens of mobile games.

"The market has changed," the source concluded.
http://www.pocketgamer.biz/r/PG.Biz/PlayStation+Vita/news.asp?c=38346 (http://www.pocketgamer.biz/r/PG.Biz/PlayStation+Vita/news.asp?c=38346)
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Stoney Mason on February 28, 2012, 01:34:28 PM
Everybody knows this thing is DOA outside of Japan and it ain't doing too hot there at the moment. Wait a couple of months when sales really hit the toilet after Ipad 3 or the next hot phone comes out and now that the early adopter crowd is gone.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on February 28, 2012, 01:38:28 PM
so that means it did 500k in the US?
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Great Rumbler on February 28, 2012, 01:51:31 PM
Quote from: Thomas Householmes Lane on February 28, 2012, 01:38:28 PM
so that means it did 500k in the US?

Probably not, because the remaining 570k is split between the US, the rest of Europe [since that article is just the UK], other Asian countries, and Australia.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Joe Molotov on February 28, 2012, 03:10:22 PM
Not everyone's ready to leave the handheld ghetto.  :tophat
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: pilonv1 on February 28, 2012, 05:50:18 PM
Quote from: Great Rumbler on February 28, 2012, 01:51:31 PM
Quote from: Thomas Householmes Lane on February 28, 2012, 01:38:28 PM
so that means it did 500k in the US?

Probably not, because the remaining 570k is split between the US, the rest of Europe [since that article is just the UK], other Asian countries, and Australia.

Don't forget the PSP's one stronghold outside of Japan - New Zealand
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on February 28, 2012, 06:31:00 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/YFUlc.png)

which of u dum xbots made this
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Great Rumbler on February 28, 2012, 06:56:59 PM
Just counting the Japanese total up to the global release and the first week in America, the sales of the 3DS should be 1.275. You can add another 300k for Europe.

Or, if you just want to add up the first week from all three major regions:

PSVITA: 944k
3DS: 1114K
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: maxy on February 29, 2012, 10:52:10 AM
3DS   76,322
PS3   27,111
PSP   15,928
Vita   11,186
Wii   7,878
360   1,508
PS2   1,269
DSi LL   977
DSi   662
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Great Rumbler on February 29, 2012, 11:26:41 AM
At this rate the Vita may not even be able to catch up with the Xbox360.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on February 29, 2012, 12:05:18 PM
Quote from: Great Rumbler on February 29, 2012, 11:26:41 AM
At this rate the Vita may not even be able to catch up with the Xbox360.

The Vita is outselling the 360 10:1 i don't think it'll have any problems Great Xbot
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Great Rumbler on February 29, 2012, 12:09:14 PM
Yeah, I guess you're right, we can look forward to the Vita finally passing the Xbox360 in Japan on January 22, 2014!
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Huff on February 29, 2012, 02:47:39 PM
Is the next "big" game really P4 in June? Vita looking good in the east
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: maxy on February 29, 2012, 02:48:28 PM
Famous Michael Pachter Nintendo in disarray talk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_DfMWgcjNuU

EA is fucking around
 :lol

Pachter :bow2

He really trashed Nintendo---Nintendo RIP

Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: T-Short on February 29, 2012, 05:15:01 PM
this was meant to go here.

(http://i.imgur.com/82NYZ.jpg)
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Great Rumbler on February 29, 2012, 05:21:41 PM
Are they going to take a pay cut?
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Stoney Mason on March 01, 2012, 12:51:18 PM
Quote from: maxy on February 29, 2012, 02:48:28 PM
Famous Michael Pachter Nintendo in disarray talk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_DfMWgcjNuU

EA is fucking around
 :lol

Pachter :bow2

He really trashed Nintendo---Nintendo RIP

People over at GAF are such idiots as evidenced by the uproar over this. Pachter is often wrong when it comes to predictions but I would argue so are most forum types. But his angle is always about profit and money because that's his freaking job. He doesn't care about gamers, or gaming in any relative sense in the way GAF types do That's not his job. His job is to look at profit and losses and extrapolate whether companies are doing better or worse relative to those very narrow parameters and their strategies regarding that. The fact that many sites mix him in with their commentary and fanzine type coverage is the issue. It would be like mixing business stories in the home and garden section of a newspaper. One is about the niche interests of people who like plants and the other is about the business and economics of plants.

GAF and gamers in general has demonstrated over and over again that people can't separate their fanboyism from their analytical mind.   

You can criticize Pachter for being short sighted or only concerned with the bottom line which a profit generating focus often is but don't bring him into the fanboy wars because that's not what he is about.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: maxy on March 01, 2012, 02:17:58 PM
Pacther should post here,he would fit nicely.

Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Steve Youngblood on March 01, 2012, 02:30:39 PM
Quote from: Stoney Mason on March 01, 2012, 12:51:18 PM
You can criticize Pachter for being short sighted or only concerned with the bottom line which a profit generating focus often is but don't bring him into the fanboy wars because that's not what he is about.
I'm not a fan of Pachter, but it's not because I think he's a dumb fanboy who picks on my favorite systems/games. All in all, I'm sure that the guy must be decent at what he does as far as predicting stock prices, but I've never really considered his analysis to be very on point. He might ultimately know how predict what happens on the DOW (I don't really follow this kind of thing, so I'm giving the benefit of the doubt), but in delving into his predictions about market trends and reasons behind market trends? I don't know. The guy just really doesn't seem to "get it," or at least can't articulate very well his reasoning.

Moreover, he ventured into "I kind of think he's a douche" territory for me around the time when there was that backlash against Team Bondi's bad working conditions, and on GameTrailers or whatever he answered a question pondering the need for unions. His response basically boiled down "conditions might have been a little bad, but salaried employees should anticipate working well beyond 40 hours a week without added compensation... and hey, they'll probably get bonuses because the game did well!" The studio ended up shutting down because the game didn't do well enough.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Stoney Mason on March 01, 2012, 02:39:04 PM
Quote from: Steve Youngblood on March 01, 2012, 02:30:39 PM
Quote from: Stoney Mason on March 01, 2012, 12:51:18 PM
You can criticize Pachter for being short sighted or only concerned with the bottom line which a profit generating focus often is but don't bring him into the fanboy wars because that's not what he is about.
I'm not a fan of Pachter, but it's not because I think he's a dumb fanboy who picks on my favorite systems/games. All in all, I'm sure that the guy must be decent at what he does as far as predicting stock prices, but I've never really considered his analysis to be very on point. He might ultimately know how predict what happens on the DOW (I don't really follow this kind of thing, so I'm giving the benefit of the doubt), but in delving into his predictions about market trends and reasons behind market trends? I don't know. The guy just really doesn't seem to "get it," or at least can't articulate very well his reasoning.

Moreover, he ventured into "I kind of think he's a douche" territory for me around the time when there was that backlash against Team Bondi's bad working conditions, and on GameTrailers or whatever he answered a question pondering the need for unions. His response basically boiled down "conditions might have been a little bad, but salaried employees should anticipate working well beyond 40 hours a week without added compensation... and hey, they'll probably get bonuses because the game did well!" The studio ended up shutting down because the game didn't do well enough.

That's the thing. Its all right to not like him or more accurately not be interested in his views because he is coming from  a very singular viewpoint. It's not surprising that's he anti-union and probably anti consumer in many cases. There's an entire party (and some would say two parties) that have this exact same philosophy in this country because they put economics in front of rights in many cases. But I don't think this is generally what blows up GAF threads into 18 pages. It's OMG he said something not 100% positive about some videogame company I care deeply about. Every blog was posting those quotes like it was some shocking smackdown condemantion of Nintendo. It's just an off the cuff answer to a question. There is nothing there to inspire the level of examination that was given from one random dude. If the Wii U comes out like gangbusters and sells at Wii levels he'll be the first guy to admit he was wrong. His flaws come from his very narrow focus. But he also has some strengths in that area because he isn't burdened by actually caring about which game company or publisher comes out on top.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Steve Youngblood on March 01, 2012, 02:42:57 PM
Quote from: Stoney Mason on March 01, 2012, 02:39:04 PM
That's the thing. Its all right to not like him or more accurately not be interested in his views because he is coming from  a very singular viewpoint. It's not surprising that's he anti-union and probably anti consumer in many cases. There's an entire party (and some would say two parties) that have this exact same philosophy in this country. But I don't think this is generally what blows up GAF threads into 18 pages. It's OMG he said something not 100% positive about some videogame company I care deeply about. Every blog was posting those quotes like it was some shocking smackdown condemantion of Nintendo. It's just an off the cuff answer to a question. There is nothing there to inspire the level of examination that was given from one random dude.
Yeah, I should have clarified that I wasn't disagreeing with you so much as needlessly chiming in. I agree.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Stoney Mason on March 01, 2012, 02:50:31 PM
I got you. I know you're not a fanboy type.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Tasty on March 01, 2012, 09:29:36 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on March 01, 2012, 08:51:30 PM
Actually the fun thing is, Pachter *does* like poking fanboy nests.  He's admitted as much.  That's why it's important to understand the difference between Pachter the analyst and Pachter the commentator.  Gamers don't often hear Pachter the analyst because that information is how he feeds his family so he doesn't really spread it around for free.  Pachter the commentator is often asked analyst questions but takes the opportunity to just have fun a lot of the time, which is why his accuracy suffers in this area.

It's kind of funny.  A lot of people don't realize Pachter was a GAFer long before there was a michaelpachter account.

Go on.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: tiesto on March 01, 2012, 11:04:52 PM
I should try applying for a job at NPD (if they have software/IT positions available) - they're headquartered in my area. Pretty much the only relevant videogame related thing nearby ever since Acclaim went out of business.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Steve Youngblood on March 02, 2012, 09:04:29 AM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on March 01, 2012, 08:51:30 PM
It's kind of funny.  A lot of people don't realize Pachter was a GAFer long before there was a michaelpachter account.
Heh. I kind of figured that after he achieved minor notoriety in the gaming world, a little bit of trolling may have been a secondary motivator just because I can see why that sort of thing might be kind of fun. I've also known that there's more to his job than just making hyperbolic "Nintendo is doomed!" predictions. However, I didn't suspect that the gap between his public persona and his career was that large. My read was always just that I assumed -- given that he still has a job -- that he must be pretty good at predicting the "what" of trends. However, I assumed he was not the greatest at understanding the "why," or at least articulating it in interviews.

But if there's more trolling than I gave him credit for, I can respect that.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Smooth Groove on March 02, 2012, 01:07:05 PM
Who tracks adult entertainment?  That would be a fun sector to work in. 
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Damian79 on March 03, 2012, 05:02:44 PM
I dont understand why he is so up on Sony thoguh like since forever.  They are most likely to fold before Nintnedo.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on March 03, 2012, 05:41:00 PM
Quote from: Damian79 on March 03, 2012, 05:02:44 PM
I dont understand why he is so up on Sony thoguh like since forever.  They are most likely to fold before Nintnedo.

no theyr'e not  ???. nitnendos laurels lie solely in video games. Sonys doesnt.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Smooth Groove on March 03, 2012, 05:48:08 PM
Methodis, Sony's glory days are over regardless of whatever market it chooses to target.  It's lost a huge chunk of the TV market to Samsung, Walkman is dead, Sony PCs and tablets are irrelevant, etc.  I feel ur pain but you just gotta accept it.  It brought me lots of grief too but I've realized that the company that I love to troll most is forever gone. 
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on March 03, 2012, 05:53:24 PM
Sony have one of the biggest movies of all time coming out this summer. It hink they're fine.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Great Rumbler on March 03, 2012, 06:49:28 PM
Quote from: Thomas Householmes Lane on March 03, 2012, 05:53:24 PM
Sony have one of the biggest movies of all time coming out this summer.

Total Recall?
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on March 03, 2012, 06:50:00 PM
spiderman how can u be so dum
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Vizzys on March 03, 2012, 06:53:59 PM
why would anyone want to remake total recall, its perfect already
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: pilonv1 on March 03, 2012, 07:31:49 PM
Quote from: Great Rumbler on March 03, 2012, 06:49:28 PM
Quote from: Thomas Householmes Lane on March 03, 2012, 05:53:24 PM
Sony have one of the biggest movies of all time coming out this summer.

Total Recall?

Wont be as good as the original.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Great Rumbler on March 03, 2012, 07:43:13 PM
Nintendo's stock price soared because of insane growth with the Wii and DS, growth they're HIGHLY unlikely to see again anytime soon. They're coming down from those heights so that, even though they're still successful within the gaming sphere [i.e. sales], buying or holding on to their stock isn't the right move for most investors.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Tasty on March 03, 2012, 08:08:50 PM
Quote from: dcharlie on March 03, 2012, 07:40:19 PM
The thing people (i.e. fanboy gamers) don't get with video game market analysis is that they simply don't understand what makes a company successful.

Nintendo fans would have been screaming BUY NINTENDO - and look what has happened to Nintendo over the last few years. Pachter is right - the fanboys are wrong, and they'd lose investors money.

I'd say buy Nintendo now definitely, basically only way to go is up. In 2007/2008 you'd have to be a moron to buy in then. Buy low, sell high.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Flannel Boy on March 03, 2012, 11:16:51 PM

 :rofl

Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Momo on March 04, 2012, 03:07:49 AM
Buying Nintendo stock now would be like pissing your money away. If you want a stock tip check which publicly traded companies are involved with the NASA mission to mars scheduled for 2018/2020(if any). Space flight develops great tech and their stocks are sure to rise
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Damian79 on March 04, 2012, 04:57:59 AM
Quote from: Momo on March 04, 2012, 03:07:49 AM
Buying Nintendo stock now would be like pissing your money away. If you want a stock tip check which publicly traded companies are involved with the NASA mission to mars scheduled for 2018/2020(if any). Space flight develops great tech and their stocks are sure to rise

Isnt Nintendo's stock lowest in 6 years?  That said i still think they are still over vlaued compared to other Japanese companies.

EDIT:  My bad it can go lowere carry on.

http://finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?s=NTDOY.PK+Basic+Chart&t=my
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on March 04, 2012, 04:45:47 PM
Is anyone here even a legit stockholder?  These moot points are driving me bananas.  Like Youngblood said, I don't have a problem with what Pachter says about a companie's outlook but rather that his reasoning presented just doesn't follow or represents a flawed oversimplification of the current market situation.   Like the original assertion that the wii was going to meet its demise because it wasn't hd, whereas the real problem wasn't general consumers caring too much about graphic fidelity as much as content.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on March 04, 2012, 05:44:52 PM
Quote from: Andrex on March 03, 2012, 08:08:50 PM
Quote from: dcharlie on March 03, 2012, 07:40:19 PM
The thing people (i.e. fanboy gamers) don't get with video game market analysis is that they simply don't understand what makes a company successful.

Nintendo fans would have been screaming BUY NINTENDO - and look what has happened to Nintendo over the last few years. Pachter is right - the fanboys are wrong, and they'd lose investors money.

I'd say buy Nintendo now definitely, basically only way to go is up. In 2007/2008 you'd have to be a moron to buy in then. Buy low, sell high.

Andrex: Whimsical Stock Analyst
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Tasty on March 04, 2012, 06:44:52 PM
fo sho  :punch
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Flannel Boy on March 04, 2012, 08:31:52 PM
You should quit your job at the power plant and become a professional stock . . . market guy.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: pilonv1 on March 04, 2012, 08:37:15 PM
Send me your resume andrex, I'll hook you up with a sweet research job tracking childrens apparel.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Tasty on March 04, 2012, 10:31:32 PM
Quote from: Flannel Boy on March 04, 2012, 08:31:52 PM
You should quit your job at the power plant and become a professional stock . . . market guy.

I ain't giving up my super fly cash-pumpin web dev job I just got.  :pimp
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: maxy on March 06, 2012, 10:55:53 AM
Link (http://www.mcvuk.com/news/read/star-wars-tops-uk-s-first-pc-download-chart/092309?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+mcvuk%2Fstream+%28MCV%3A+Home+Stream%29)
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UKIE's PC download chart is officially here, with Star Wars: The Old Republic sitting at the top.

The new chart is still in beta and represents sales from January. UKIE estimates that it represents around 40 per cent of the overall digital PC market.

The chart was put together by UKIE's digital group, which consists of 25 organisations. Any company can joint the Group, UKIE member or not. The data is compiled by the members of this group (publishers and developers), so doesn't come directly from retailers such as Steam.

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UK PC Download Chart: Full Game January 2012
1.    Star Wars: The Old Republic - EA
2.    From Dust - Ubisoft
3.    Bastion - Warner Bros
4.    Battlefield 3 - EA
5.    Batman: Arkham City - Warner Bros
6.    Deus Ex: Human Revolution (Standard Edition) - Square Enix
7.    Anno 2070 - Ubisoft
8.    Assassin's Creed 2 (Collector's Edition) - Ubisoft
9.    Assassin's Creed Revelations - Ubisoft
10.    Hitman Collection - Square Enix
11.    Anno 2070 (Collector's Edition) - Ubisoft
12.    Assassin's Creed - Ubisoft
13.    The Sims 3 - EA
14.    FEAR 3 - Warner Bros
15.    R.U.S.E. - Ubisoft
16.    Dark Messiah of Might and Magic - Ubisoft
17.    Hitman: Blood Money - Square Enix
18.    Heroes of Might & Magic 6 - Ubisoft
19.    Batman Arkham Asylum  (Game of the Year) - Warner Bros
20.    LEGO Harry Potter: Years 5-7 - Warner Bros
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: maxy on March 07, 2012, 10:39:49 AM
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01./00. [PS3] One Piece: Pirate Warriors # <ACT> (Bandai Namco Games) {2012.03.01} (¥8.190) - 655.774 / NEW
02./00. [3DS] Mario & Sonic at the London 2012 Olympic Games <SPT> (Nintendo) {2012.03.01} (¥4.800) - 43.155 / NEW
03./02. [3DS] Harvest Moon: The Land of Origin <SLG> (Marvelous AQL) {2012.02.23} (¥5.040) - 27.378 / 108.509 (-66%)
04./00. [PSP] Great Battle Full Blast # <ACT> (Bandai Namco Games) {2012.03.01} (¥6.280) - 24.289 / NEW
05./15. [3DS] Theatrhythm Final Fantasy <ACT> (Square Enix) {2012.02.16} (¥6.090) - 21.540 / 99.532 (+100%)
06./08. [3DS] Mario Kart 7 <RCE> (Nintendo) {2011.12.01} (¥4.800) - 18.945 / 1.546.212 (-9%)
07./03. [PS3] Naruto Shippuden: Narutimate Storm Generation <FTG> (Bandai Namco Games) {2012.02.23} (¥7.330) - 17.917 / 83.675 (-73%)
08./07. [3DS] Super Mario 3D Land <ACT> (Nintendo) {2011.11.03} (¥4.800) - 16.142 / 1.386.318 (-25%)
09./09. [3DS] Monster Hunter 3G # <ACT> (Capcom) {2011.12.10} (¥5.800) - 15.836 / 1.283.511 (-11%)
10./01. [PSP] Tales of the Heroes: Twin Brave # <ACT> (Bandai Namco Games) {2012.02.23} (¥6.280) - 12.358 / 97.668 (-86%)

3DS   70,744
PS3   65,116
PSP   15,715
Vita   10,023
Wii   8,111
PS2   1,377
360   1,248
DSi LL   810
DSi   553
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Great Rumbler on March 07, 2012, 10:40:49 AM
STILL hanging onto those five-figures! :lol
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Tasty on March 07, 2012, 12:03:58 PM
Dangling by a thread. Those 24 people man.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Momo on March 07, 2012, 12:05:13 PM

Buying the shit out of Pirate Warriors when/if it comes west
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Trent Dole on March 07, 2012, 12:33:07 PM
Quote from: Momo on March 07, 2012, 12:05:13 PM

Buying the shit out of Pirate Warriors when/if it comes west
If they brought over Fist of the North Star they'll bring over One Piece.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on March 07, 2012, 07:50:54 PM
ROFL

I got a chance to play a Vita recently and man, it's a fine piece of kit.  If there was one word to describe the Vita hardware, it would be "quality"; unlike the 3DS where you have to hold it at an awkward angle to play it in 3D and feels like cheap Nintendo crapola we've all come to know and love.  Unfortunately, the Vita is heading towards certain failure so I'm like a vulture circling over the dying animal known as Vita at this point.  I'm hoping it will be like the Dreamcast after the cancellation notice where all of a sudden, everyone was trying to unload their Dreamcast wares as quickly as possible, netting all kinds of great deals.  Why get Uncharted for $40 when I can get it for $5?
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Momo on March 08, 2012, 03:54:45 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/kQJGO.png)

Anyone know the source on this image? Grabbed it off /v/
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: maxy on March 08, 2012, 03:57:12 AM
Oscar will tell you

 :D
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Momo on March 08, 2012, 04:04:44 AM
Quote from: Borys on March 08, 2012, 04:00:44 AM
VGChartz
No wonder I havent seen sales formatted in that way before.
I will now proceed to dns block /v/ on my router
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Momo on March 08, 2012, 04:51:57 AM
Why is chartz unable to form legitimate data sharing partnerships within the industry? I mean how hard can it be to hire a statistician, a mathematician and reach out to retail/digital to get a good amount of data to plug into mathematical models? 
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: T-Short on March 08, 2012, 05:08:01 AM
Quote from: Momo on March 08, 2012, 04:51:57 AM
Why is chartz unable to form legitimate data sharing partnerships within the industry? I mean how hard can it be to hire a statistician, a mathematician and reach out to retail/digital to get a good amount of data to plug into mathematical models?

Why would "the industry" give out their data to some random dood with a free website when they make monies on selling access to said data?

edit: and beaten by Oscar
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: pilonv1 on March 08, 2012, 05:24:26 AM
Regardless of the financial part, why would say Gamestop, give their sensitive data to someone with a website who has no record or history of dealing with it?

Quote from: Momo on March 08, 2012, 04:51:57 AM
I mean how hard can it be to hire a statistician, a mathematician and reach out to retail/digital to get a good amount of data to plug into mathematical models? 

I think you're underestimating how many people it takes to do this.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Momo on March 08, 2012, 06:03:14 AM
Never free, they can share in subscription/ad monies.

Point(s) taken, just find it odd that chartz have no desire to legitimize themselves in any way.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Momo on March 08, 2012, 06:07:24 AM
Actually, taking this further lets say for example we as boreans want to start up a new tracker. How many staff and which positions would you think needs filling? Ignore data acquisition for the moment, let's assume it's a trivial matter of promising x% of subs. Let us also assume we are doing one territory, U.S. for example.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: maxy on March 08, 2012, 06:32:49 AM
Quote from: Momo on March 08, 2012, 06:07:24 AM
Actually, taking this further lets say for example we as boreans want to start up a new tracker. How many staff and which positions would you think needs filling? Ignore data acquisition for the moment, let's assume it's a trivial matter of promising x% of subs. Let us also assume we are doing one territory, U.S. for example.

Data acquisition is everything.The rest is just some shady* science that surprisingly works in most of the cases.

VG Charts problem is data acquisition.Technically you would need like 0 people...just one computer


*shady---nobody really understands why it works,but it works
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Momo on March 08, 2012, 07:05:16 AM
For data I'd go to the biggest distributors and track shipped numbers at first. Not really useful to anyone I would imagine (except for myself as an upper ceiling in my sell through model) , but it starts the process of building a predictive mathematical model. 
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Momo on March 08, 2012, 09:41:12 AM
Oscar, want to try your hand at generating numbers? Nothing we'd release ever just to see how close to more reputable trackers we'd come 
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Momo on March 08, 2012, 10:18:43 AM
Andrex quoting Chartz numbers in 3, 2, 1 ...
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Momo on March 08, 2012, 10:32:41 AM
Was wondering if there are some retailers that are open with said numbers and extrapolate from there. The math would be fun for me since I always enjoyed it. Haha, yeah I get being busy though, maybe another time.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: AdmiralViscen on March 08, 2012, 11:16:17 AM
Quote from: Momo on March 08, 2012, 09:41:12 AM
Oscar, want to try your hand at generating numbers? Nothing we'd release ever just to see how close to more reputable trackers we'd come

Are you distinguished mentally-challenged?
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Momo on March 08, 2012, 11:24:16 AM
no, just interested in math?
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Momo on March 08, 2012, 11:58:42 AM
derp
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: AdmiralViscen on March 08, 2012, 12:34:39 PM
Quote from: Momo on March 08, 2012, 11:58:42 AM
I actually studied math at uni for 3 years. Stats for 2 years. (Was an elective, dropped it in my last year because i was already covered by math). I studied Bsc -computer science, math, physics, stats, applied math (1 year) Went into the job market thereafter and was really unhappy with my options so I took a job but studied on.  I'm 6 months from completing a Bcom in economics, management and business management currently. So it's not like I dont have a background in these things.

Question answered
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Momo on March 08, 2012, 12:39:28 PM
Not really sure what that means, but okay.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Tasty on March 08, 2012, 12:44:13 PM
Quote from: AdmiralViscen on March 08, 2012, 11:16:17 AM
Are you distinguished mentally-challenged?

Quote from: Momo on March 08, 2012, 10:18:43 AM
Andrex quoting Chartz numbers in 3, 2, 1 ...

Yes.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Great Rumbler on March 08, 2012, 01:04:23 PM
Quote from: Borys on March 08, 2012, 01:02:52 PM
Momo is trying to punk Oscar.

I think it's more like this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_pC2ToILCs
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Flannel Boy on March 08, 2012, 01:36:38 PM
 :lol
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Stoney Mason on March 08, 2012, 06:42:31 PM
4- week month; January retail reporting period 1/29/12 through 2/25/12

Overall Industry

Game software sales were $485.7 million, down 24 percent. NPD estimates consumers spent another $500 million to $600 million on digitally disributed games, rentals, subscriptions, add-on content and used games during the month.

Software
01. Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3 (360, PS3, Wii, PC)**   Activision Blizzzard
02. Final Fantasy XIII-2 (PS3, 360)**   Square Enix Inc.
03. UFC Undisputed 3 (360, PS3)   THQ
04. Kingdoms of Amalur: Reckoning (360, PS3, PC)    Electronic Arts
05. Just Dance 3 (Wii, 360, PS3)    Ubisoft
06. NBA 2K12 (360, PS3, PSP, Wii, PC, PS2)    Take 2 Interactive
07. Soul Calibur V (360, PS3)**    Namco Bandai Games
08. Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim (360, PS3, PC)**    Bethesda Softworks
09. Twisted Metal 2012 (PS3)    Sony - 221K
10. Battlefield 3 (360, PS3, PC)**    Electronic Arts

**(includes CE, GOTY editions, bundles, etc. but not those bundled with hardware)



Missing in Action

-Resident Evil: Revelations (3DS)
-Uncharted: Golden Abyss (Vita) (confirmed to be in top 20)
-Syndicate (PS3/360)
-The Darkness 2 (PS3/360)


Hardware
Xbox 360 - 426K (-20.4%)
PlayStation 3 - 360K (-11%) (PR Math)
Nintendo 3DS - 262K
Nintendo Wii - 228K (-50%)
PlayStation Vita - 225K (PR Math)
Nintendo DS - 135K

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Xbox 360 continues to hold the number one spot in the U.S., selling more units than any other console for 14 months straight. Sustained consumer demand for Xbox 360 and Kinect have helped maintain its number one spot, even in the seventh year on the market.

February 2012 U.S. NPD highlights:
· Holding 42 percent share of current-generation console sales, Xbox 360 sold 426,000 units in February, maintaining the number-one console spot in the U.S. This marks the 12th consecutive month Xbox 360 has held more than 40 percent of the current-generation console market share. (Source: NPD Group, February 2012)
· Total retail spend on the Xbox 360 platform in February (hardware, software and accessories) reached $383 million, the most for any console in the U.S. (Source: NPD Group, February 2012)
· During the month of February, Xbox 360 held five of the top 10 U.S. console game titles including: "Kingdoms of Amalur: Reckoning," "Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3," "UFC Undisputed," "NBA 2K12," and "Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim." (Source: NPD Group, February 2012)

This year, Xbox 360 will again deliver an interactive entertainment portfolio of blockbuster titles, experiences and add-on content, including additions to the famed "Halo" and "Fable" franchises. The more than 50 Xbox LIVE entertainment partners will continue to expand with many more launching throughout the year. Later this year, Xbox 360 will deliver entirely new groundbreaking experiences like "Kinect Sesame Street TV" and "Nat Geo TV," forever changing the way people interact with their favorite TV entertainment.


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Another month, another milestone for Mario: Super Mario Galaxy became the ninth Wii game to sell more than 5 million units in the United States, according to the NPD Group, which tracks video game sales in the United States. The Wii system, which crossed 39 million units sold in February, now has nearly twice as many 5-million sellers* as competing current-generation consoles combined.

“Wii continues its record-breaking run by surpassing 39 million units in its 64th month, a pace that is unmatched by any other system in U.S. history,” said Scott Moffitt, Nintendo of America’s executive vice president of Sales & Marketing. “Titles like Super Mario Galaxy help explain why Wii continues to resonate with consumers. The fact that one of the best-reviewed games of all time is available for a suggested retail price of $19.99 speaks to Nintendo’s combination of quality, family fun and value that is unmatched in our industry.”

Other Nintendo milestones achieved in February include:

Super Mario 3D Land and Mario Kart 7 for Nintendo 3DS each sold more than 100,000 units, bringing the life-to-date totals to more than 1.85 million and 1.45 million respectively.
Pokémon Black Version and Pokémon White Version for Nintendo DS have now sold more than 4 million combined units in the United States.
Nintendo sold 625,000 total hardware units in February and saw double-digit growth across each of its product lines compared to January. This includes:

Nintendo 3DS: 262,000, a 53 percent increase
Wii: 228,000, a 50 percent increase
Nintendo DS: 135,000, a 76 percent increase
Total: 625,000, a 57 percent increase

* The Wii games to surpass 5 million units sold in the United States include: Wii Play (13.06 million), Mario Kart Wii (11.3 million), New Super Mario Bros. Wii (8.86 million), Wii Fit (8.18 million), Wii FitPlus (7.32 million), Wii Sports Resort (6.45 million), Just Dance 2 (5.61) million, Super Smash Bros. Brawl (5.43 million) and Super Mario Galaxy (5.04 million). Just Dance 3 is poised to be the next title added to the list with a lifetime total of 4.61 million.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on March 08, 2012, 07:01:39 PM
did Evilore decide to start posting them because he thinks he's so self important or something?
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on March 08, 2012, 07:29:11 PM
What can vita do to turn shit around in japan oscar? I mean psp did super there and the 3ds is doing good too.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Great Rumbler on March 08, 2012, 07:42:18 PM
Too bad we're not getting any Sony numbers.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Tasty on March 08, 2012, 09:09:55 PM
THE POWER OF MATH

Those numbers are kinda ouch worthy I think...
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Great Rumbler on March 08, 2012, 09:48:51 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on March 08, 2012, 08:04:23 PM
Quote from: Great Rumbler on March 08, 2012, 07:42:18 PM
Too bad we're not getting any Sony numbers.

luckily with the power of math we can determine the vita's numbers within a range.

that range is 218k - 230k.

The 3DS did double that in the same time frame. At the same price.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Owl-faced Wizard on March 08, 2012, 09:51:05 PM
Vita sales are, of course, comically terrible - but those 3DS sales seem really weak too.  I would think a relatively new platform would be selling much more than barely better than the Wii in its twilight years.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Owl-faced Wizard on March 08, 2012, 10:02:22 PM
idk, those 360 sales are too good, if anything.  Also, I mean even relative to other stuff.  But you know that cos I compared it to Wii so rar
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Stoney Mason on March 08, 2012, 10:37:58 PM
Quote from: Andrex on March 08, 2012, 09:09:55 PM
THE POWER OF MATH

Those numbers are kinda ouch worthy I think...

Only crazy people thought that device would be a hit. Especially outside of Japan.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Tasty on March 08, 2012, 10:58:00 PM
I heard Uncharted outsold RE. Crazy if true. How could that be the case considering Mercs sold well-ish?
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Tasty on March 08, 2012, 11:23:10 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on March 08, 2012, 11:06:22 PM
that *would* be awfully surprising

if mercs had sold well

if

however, the reality is: revelaitons could have sold 4x mercs first month and still come in under uncharted vita.

mercs came to a good total but it did so by legging it out.  we'll see how rev does.

If that's the case I can't see Rev trending wildly differently, especially seeing it's a quality title with good press (as opposed to the skimpy Mercs and the save lock debacle.) I wonder if Capcom's thinking about porting it now or what.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: pilonv1 on March 08, 2012, 11:29:06 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on March 08, 2012, 09:59:16 PM
as I said, numbers are soft all around

the industry is fucked

Imagine 5 years ago saying that a Final Fantasy game would do these sort of numbers. I wonder how much goodwill has been pissed away from stupid decisions this generation.

Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Tasty on March 09, 2012, 12:04:54 AM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on March 08, 2012, 11:28:23 PM
It's Capcom.  They're always thinking about porting it.

Well I mean immediately, after seeing those numbers.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Smooth Groove on March 09, 2012, 12:25:47 AM
What's wrong with Vita numbers?  They seem pretty high for a relatively expensive machine. 
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Stoney Mason on March 09, 2012, 12:53:50 AM
Quote from: Smooth Groove on March 09, 2012, 12:25:47 AM
What's wrong with Vita numbers?  They seem pretty high for a relatively expensive machine.

Declining market and competing against more popular smartphones and tablets. And this is the initial push where the hardcore buy it. Now that the initial rush is over the numbers will drop month by month most likely just as they have in Japan. And that's where the market is stronger for that kind of product.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Huff on March 09, 2012, 01:45:54 AM
Quote from: Borys on March 09, 2012, 01:38:26 AM
So glad FF13-2 is there :bow :bow2

cept isn't under 400k bad?
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Owl-faced Wizard on March 09, 2012, 01:50:39 AM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on March 09, 2012, 01:29:35 AM
Quote from: Smooth Groove on March 09, 2012, 12:25:47 AM
What's wrong with Vita numbers?  They seem pretty high for a relatively expensive machine.

NPD Launch Months

GBA - 870K
PSP - 619K
NDS - 480K
3DS - ~400K
PSV - 225K

A reminder, the 3DS was the same price at its launch.

It's even better with the dates!

GBA June 11, 2001 870K
PSP March 24, 2005 619K
NDS November 21, 2004 480K
3DS March 27, 2011 ~400K
PSV February 22, 2012 225K

The sales actually seem worse the more you look at them.  If I was funding a Vita game I would cancel it and move it to a platform that wouldn't actively hurt its chances on the market.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Momo on March 09, 2012, 01:55:02 AM
01. Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3 (360, PS3, Wii, PC)**   Activision Blizzzard

Why?
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Owl-faced Wizard on March 09, 2012, 02:01:22 AM
Quote from: Momo on March 09, 2012, 01:55:02 AM
01. Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3 (360, PS3, Wii, PC)**   Activision Blizzzard

Why?
- It's a huge game (in the states)
- It's multiplat on the most platforms
- Slow month in general, nothing new to knock it off its perch
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Momo on March 09, 2012, 02:06:44 AM
Im really starting to buy into the school of thought that there are four sets of console gamers
- Nintendo fans
- Motion/Casuals/Party gamers
- Cod/Madden/FIFA gamers
- Us

It's like these people play nothing else but CoD. The fuck.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on March 09, 2012, 03:02:53 AM
I bought 5 CODs and 2 Fifas in the last 6 years.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Momo on March 09, 2012, 04:42:39 AM
you are not one of us :maf
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Momo on March 09, 2012, 09:47:18 AM
I mostly like to get underarm tickled by scrawny asian girls while having my hands tied. 

If we're talking videogames, mostly RPGs and Action titles. 

Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: tiesto on March 09, 2012, 10:30:20 AM
RPG, shmup, fighting, arcade and 2D platformers/run-n-guns are my genres of choice. With the occasional racing game, puzzle game and weird gimmicky game thrown in there.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Mr. Gundam on March 09, 2012, 12:10:31 PM
Quote from: Huff on March 09, 2012, 01:45:54 AM
Quote from: Borys on March 09, 2012, 01:38:26 AM
So glad FF13-2 is there :bow :bow2

cept isn't under 400k bad?

Who cares. I got my copy and had a blast playing it.

Quote from: Momo on March 09, 2012, 02:06:44 AM
Im really starting to buy into the school of thought that there are four sets of console gamers
- Nintendo fans
- Motion/Casuals/Party gamers
- Cod/Madden/FIFA gamers
- Us

It's like these people play nothing else but CoD. The fuck.

I have friends who buy nothing but CoD, Madden and Tiger Woods. I've got another friend who buys nothing but Assassin's Creed games for this PS3.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Bebpo on March 09, 2012, 01:10:26 PM
Seems to me that regardless of how Vita does over its lifetime, this will be the last portable system Sony puts out.  I expect a Nintendo only handheld future 10 years from now. 
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: AdmiralViscen on March 09, 2012, 01:18:21 PM
I expect an apple only handheld future ten years from ow
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Mr. Gundam on March 09, 2012, 01:22:14 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on March 09, 2012, 12:48:01 PM
Quote from: Mr. Gundam on March 09, 2012, 12:10:31 PM
Quote from: Huff on March 09, 2012, 01:45:54 AM
Quote from: Borys on March 09, 2012, 01:38:26 AM
So glad FF13-2 is there :bow :bow2

cept isn't under 400k bad?

Who cares. I got my copy and had a blast playing it.

dood, you have *every* other thread on the bore to say "who cares about sales".  This is the sales thread.  Start wanking to numbers or gtfo.

wank.

 :pimp

The only sales numbers I really ever care about are my stupid mecha games.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Bebpo on March 09, 2012, 01:22:41 PM
Quote from: AdmiralViscen on March 09, 2012, 01:18:21 PM
I expect an apple only handheld future ten years from ow

If they add physical controls, then I could see that too. 


Also the day they get a new Mario/Zelda on iOS will be the greatest meltdown of the internets.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: cool breeze on March 09, 2012, 01:37:37 PM
put pokemon on iOS and I might try it again

iirc Japan isn't as keen on the apple as western folks, and the nintendo is still popular with the Japanese and children.

and the vita numbers, I'm sure they're bad, but I don't know why they're surprisingly bad when it's up against the considerably cheaper 3DS with its higher profile library.  Vita is ~$100 more than the 3DS when you add in the $20 minimum 4 gig memory stick.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Tasty on March 09, 2012, 02:11:35 PM
Quote from: Linkzg on March 09, 2012, 01:37:37 PM
put pokemon on iOS and I might try it again

Burn this man at the stake.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Van Cruncheon on March 09, 2012, 03:00:49 PM
most 3ds owners had the hardware purchased for them by their parents. revelaitons am doomed. nintendo remains KIDDY
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Tasty on March 09, 2012, 03:26:06 PM
Quote from: Van Cruncheon on March 09, 2012, 03:00:49 PM
most 3ds owners had the hardware purchased for them by their parents. revelaitons am doomed. nintendo remains KIDDY

At least 3DS has RE. :teehee Oh wait, two RE's. :teehee :teehee
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Huff on March 09, 2012, 08:28:31 PM
Quote from: Mr. Gundam on March 09, 2012, 12:10:31 PM
Quote from: Huff on March 09, 2012, 01:45:54 AM
Quote from: Borys on March 09, 2012, 01:38:26 AM
So glad FF13-2 is there :bow :bow2

cept isn't under 400k bad?

Who cares. I got my copy and had a blast playing it.

I didn't mention it's quality at all. I was one of the few who really loved XIII. But it still sold shitty
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Bebpo on March 09, 2012, 09:11:16 PM
More than 20k?
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Great Rumbler on March 10, 2012, 01:41:18 AM
So...yeah, Syndicate sold 34,000 copies in February.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Bebpo on March 10, 2012, 03:37:19 AM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on March 09, 2012, 09:41:29 PM
Yup

3rd best selling Vita game

Assuming Uncharted was #1, what was #2? 


Wipeout selling more than 11k in the US is definitely good.  Anything that keeps Sony from killing the series is good in my book. 
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on March 10, 2012, 03:40:20 AM
Im happy Syndicate did shit. Maybe now someone will realize that they should have made a real one for a third of the cost and sell fiv :De times as much. At least were getting a real Xcom from Firaxis!
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Flannel Boy on March 10, 2012, 12:02:50 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on March 10, 2012, 05:45:59 AM
#2 is a game I see a lot of Boreans enjoying, particularly MAF

screenshot of the game:





(http://i1256.photobucket.com/albums/ii488/flannelboy82/MTS_ArchitectOfTheFuture-656598-exterior.jpg)

Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Tasty on March 10, 2012, 01:34:59 PM
wow that vita game has terrible graphics, but i guess i shouldn't be surprised
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Flannel Boy on March 10, 2012, 01:45:15 PM
Quote from: Andrex on March 10, 2012, 01:34:59 PM
wow that vita game has terrible graphics, but i guess i shouldn't be surprised

(http://cache.kotaku.com/assets/images/9/2007/09/medium_argh1myeyes.jpg)
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on March 10, 2012, 02:02:57 PM
where did virtua tennis and FIFA chart segata
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Tasty on March 10, 2012, 02:37:28 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on March 10, 2012, 01:47:07 PM
if you really wanted to cut andrex to the quick you could post some pictures of pokemon still looking like a goddam 15 year old game

Part of the charm duder.

And I still say HGSS are the best looking games for DS.

Quote from: Flannel Boy on March 10, 2012, 01:45:15 PM
Quote from: Andrex on March 10, 2012, 01:34:59 PM
wow that vita game has terrible graphics, but i guess i shouldn't be surprised

(http://cache.kotaku.com/assets/images/9/2007/09/medium_argh1myeyes.jpg)

wow wipeout's really fallen from grace these past few years
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Flannel Boy on March 10, 2012, 02:41:24 PM
That joke might make some sense if Wipeout wasn't a futuristic racing game.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on March 10, 2012, 03:26:42 PM
Pokemon's style is okay, although their decision to go with 3d elements on the ds hardware compromises things for sure.  Black and White had persistent animated sprites which is ... still playing catch up to 15 years ago. but its progress on their part.  I kinda hope they don't switch to 3d modeling though because the Stadium series feels a lot slower when battles play out.

There's complicated reasons why pokemon as is wouldn't work out so well with a capacitive screen, mostly to do with how much the game does certain calculations based on the tile based world.  Random Number Generator abusers would rage at moving up instead of left at certain points.

Anyway, should be interesting to see how Kid Icarus does next month as I've heard its being advertised on channels like ESPN of all places.  Not sure what segment of that demographic they're shooting for.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on March 10, 2012, 03:26:55 PM
Part of Pokemons charm is that it looks 20 years old?  :lol

The tings ninthings will come up with.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on March 10, 2012, 03:36:17 PM
HGSS had some nice overworld sprite work, as they didn't get carried away with the 3d stuff.  Black and White 2 went overboard with the crappy 3d modeling everywhere and the out of place sprites that populated it.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Tasty on March 10, 2012, 04:37:25 PM
Quote from: Flannel Boy on March 10, 2012, 02:41:24 PM
That joke might make some sense if Wipeout wasn't a futuristic racing game.

But that was the joke.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Phoenix Dark on March 11, 2012, 01:19:29 AM
Quote from: EmCeeGrammar on March 10, 2012, 03:26:42 PM
Pokemon's style is okay, although their decision to go with 3d elements on the ds hardware compromises things for sure.  Black and White had persistent animated sprites which is ... still playing catch up to 15 years ago. but its progress on their part.  I kinda hope they don't switch to 3d modeling though because the Stadium series feels a lot slower when battles play out.

There's complicated reasons why pokemon as is wouldn't work out so well with a capacitive screen, mostly to do with how much the game does certain calculations based on the tile based world.  Random Number Generator abusers would rage at moving up instead of left at certain points.

Anyway, should be interesting to see how Kid Icarus does next month as I've heard its being advertised on channels like ESPN of all places.  Not sure what segment of that demographic they're shooting for.

(http://i.minus.com/ibcaAMyh68FbB8.gif)
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Momo on March 11, 2012, 01:56:44 AM
What is this nonsense.

Pokemon is fuck ugly, they need to as least aim for something like sega saturn or ambitiously neo geo level sprites

 :lol at the spartacus gif, that scene killed me
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Damian79 on March 11, 2012, 04:42:13 AM
I love sprites they need to keep pokemon 2d and better sprites.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on March 11, 2012, 03:41:42 PM
Quote from: Phoenix Dark on March 11, 2012, 01:19:29 AM
Quote from: EmCeeGrammar on March 10, 2012, 03:26:42 PM
Pokemon's style is okay, although their decision to go with 3d elements on the ds hardware compromises things for sure.  Black and White had persistent animated sprites which is ... still playing catch up to 15 years ago. but its progress on their part.  I kinda hope they don't switch to 3d modeling though because the Stadium series feels a lot slower when battles play out.

There's complicated reasons why pokemon as is wouldn't work out so well with a capacitive screen, mostly to do with how much the game does certain calculations based on the tile based world.  Random Number Generator abusers would rage at moving up instead of left at certain points.

Anyway, should be interesting to see how Kid Icarus does next month as I've heard its being advertised on channels like ESPN of all places.  Not sure what segment of that demographic they're shooting for.

(http://i.minus.com/ibcaAMyh68FbB8.gif)

I certainly don't get this. 
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Tasty on March 11, 2012, 03:56:58 PM
I can't believe I've already forgotten what scene that GIF is from. And I've seen all of Spartacus so far.
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Post by: Momo on March 11, 2012, 04:24:49 PM
Its from the episode two nights ago :lol
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Tasty on March 11, 2012, 05:42:08 PM
Oh, when I said "all of it," I meant, all of it except that episode. :lol I was pretty sick Friday. Missed it. :'( Thankfully Starz replays it a lot.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Damian79 on March 13, 2012, 03:04:34 AM
http://www.gamesradar.com/nintendo-doomed-not-likely-just-take-look-how-much-money-its-got-bank/

It is gonna be a while before Nintendo is really doomed.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Momo on March 13, 2012, 03:25:50 AM
I highly doubt there is any civilized human being that believes Nintendo is doomed
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Trent Dole on March 13, 2012, 04:56:08 AM
They're not doomed, they just make shit hardware that plagues the console space with how cheap and low tech it is.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Momo on March 13, 2012, 05:44:33 AM
Quote from: Trent Dole on March 13, 2012, 04:56:08 AM
They're not doomed, they just make shit hardware that plagues the console space with how cheap and low tech it is.
This in a nutshell.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Damian79 on March 13, 2012, 06:24:46 AM
Quote from: Trent Dole on March 13, 2012, 04:56:08 AM
They're not doomed, they just make shit hardware that plagues the console space with how cheap and low tech it is.

Pretty much but can you blame them?  They had more success with the wii than with thier previous 2 generations of hardware combined.  :/  Besides they are more suited ot make kiddie shit for the masses than hardcore games anyway.  Pretty much all thier ip have turned kiddie except for metroid.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Tasty on March 13, 2012, 08:49:37 AM
Urge to kill rising.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Damian79 on March 13, 2012, 10:40:04 AM
Quote from: Andrex on March 13, 2012, 08:49:37 AM
Urge to kill rising.

Am i wrong?
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Joe Molotov on March 13, 2012, 10:42:33 AM
Quote from: Damian79 on March 13, 2012, 10:40:04 AM
Quote from: Andrex on March 13, 2012, 08:49:37 AM
Urge to kill rising.

Am i wrong?

He's not angry because you're wrong, he's angry because you're right.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Tasty on March 13, 2012, 11:06:46 AM
Well whatever. I don't see how you could say their hardware "plagues" anything considering we all have free choice in what we buy, but whatever.

Also lol at creating a false kiddie-matoor dichotomy that I thought died last last gen. Suddenly Nintendo's "turning" *more* kiddy somehow, despite its new IP's catering to an older audience like Xenoblade. Well, I guess Pushmo and Rolling Western could be kiddy.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Joe Molotov on March 13, 2012, 11:08:50 AM
u mad
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Tasty on March 13, 2012, 11:21:36 AM
Nah, just frustrated.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Huff on March 13, 2012, 11:28:13 AM
Quote from: Andrex on March 13, 2012, 11:21:36 AM
Nah, just frustrated.

i also get frustrated when people make fun of my beloved video game console maker 
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Tasty on March 13, 2012, 11:30:43 AM
People can make fun of Nintendo all they want, that's never bothered me and I do it on occassion myself. The problem comes when they want to spread misinformation.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Trent Dole on March 13, 2012, 12:13:45 PM
Quote from: Andrex on March 13, 2012, 11:30:43 AM
People can make fun of Nintendo all they want, that's never bothered me and I do it on occassion myself. The problem comes when they want to spread misinformation.
What misinformation is being spread in them going as low end as they can in their specs, hmm?
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Steve Youngblood on March 13, 2012, 12:21:16 PM
Quote from: Andrex on March 13, 2012, 11:30:43 AM
People can make fun of Nintendo all they want, that's never bothered me and I do it on occassion myself. The problem comes when they want to spread misinformation.
Yes. It certainly ranks pretty high in my list of "Stuff that Matters." Dirty lies that infest the all-important console wars arena are a big problem.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Momo on March 13, 2012, 01:32:29 PM
Hey Oscar, I didnt know Media Create tracked doujin sales, do you perhaps know if they specifically track game sales?

Quote
Annual research by the research agency Media Create indicated that of the $1.65 billion of the Otaku industry in 2007, doujin sales made up 48% ($792 million)
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Tasty on March 13, 2012, 01:33:50 PM
Quote from: Trent Dole on March 13, 2012, 12:13:45 PM
Quote from: Andrex on March 13, 2012, 11:30:43 AM
People can make fun of Nintendo all they want, that's never bothered me and I do it on occassion myself. The problem comes when they want to spread misinformation.
What misinformation is being spread in them going as low end as they can in their specs, hmm?

That wasn't even a footnote in my post, I was concerned with the kiddie accusation more because it makes little sense (that they're becoming "more" kiddy over the years, specifically.)
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Joe Molotov on March 13, 2012, 01:39:43 PM
Quote from: Trent Dole on March 13, 2012, 12:13:45 PM
Quote from: Andrex on March 13, 2012, 11:30:43 AM
People can make fun of Nintendo all they want, that's never bothered me and I do it on occassion myself. The problem comes when they want to spread misinformation.
What misinformation is being spread in them going as low end as they can in their specs, hmm?

Why do they need high-end hardware when their flagship franchise (Pokémon) continues to use graphics that would be embarrassing on the Super Nintendo?
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Momo on March 13, 2012, 02:16:50 PM
I'd be mighty interested in how those numbers break down. I really didnt think (game) doujinshi made much if any money outside of a rare few. I can't see that 798 million being mostly hentai/art/music/manga/anime 
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Bebpo on March 13, 2012, 02:25:58 PM
Quote from: Momo on March 13, 2012, 02:16:50 PM
I'd be mighty interested in how those numbers break down. I really didnt think (game) doujinshi made much if any money outside of a rare few. I can't see that 798 million being mostly hentai/art/music/manga/anime

I can.  Never underestimate the selling power of porn fanfics!
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Momo on March 13, 2012, 02:33:12 PM
Well from what I've experienced people mostly trade hentai on 2ch and IRC. I've literally never encountered hentai doujins for sale in all my life :lol

*specifically manga/art, if we're talking games it counts into the particular sales breakdown I'm interested in
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Great Rumbler on March 13, 2012, 02:42:23 PM
A vendor was selling some hentai doujin at A-Kon in Dallas a year or two back.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Momo on March 13, 2012, 02:46:24 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on March 13, 2012, 02:40:46 PM
yeah you know probably the reason you haven't seen anyone buying/selling hentai doujins is because you don't live in japan
One would think it would come up more frequently due to the places I visit online, anime forums in particular doujins are discussed to death.

Quote from: Great Rumbler on March 13, 2012, 02:42:23 PM
A vendor was selling some hentai doujin at A-Kon in Dallas a year or two back.
:lol

I dont want to go down this rabbit hole :lol
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Great Rumbler on March 13, 2012, 02:54:55 PM
Why would anyone on the internet actually BUY doujinshi? There are literally hundreds of sites devoted to translating doujin and then distributing them for FREE.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Momo on March 13, 2012, 02:59:18 PM
Somehow whenever I think of a Japanese salaryman they are drunk. That stereotype is soaked deep into my bones despite my favorite portrayal of a salaryman being Rokuro Okajima who's only drunk once, well even then he managed to cement it in me by yelling "No one can out drink a Japanese salaryman" or some such when he drinks. 

Ok I'm rambling now, brb while I read up on renpy licensing, maybe I can release some of the shit i've made with that game engine as commercial titles (after adding tons of porn)
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Tasty on March 13, 2012, 07:36:51 PM
Quote from: Joe Molotov® EDGE™ on March 13, 2012, 01:39:43 PM
Quote from: Trent Dole on March 13, 2012, 12:13:45 PM
Quote from: Andrex on March 13, 2012, 11:30:43 AM
People can make fun of Nintendo all they want, that's never bothered me and I do it on occassion myself. The problem comes when they want to spread misinformation.
What misinformation is being spread in them going as low end as they can in their specs, hmm?

Why do they need high-end hardware when their flagship franchise (Pokémon) continues to use graphics that would be embarrassing on the Super Nintendo?

 :maf HGSS are very pretty games OK.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Momo on March 16, 2012, 06:48:04 AM
Quote
01./01. [PS3] One Piece: Pirate Warriors # <ACT> (Bandai Namco Games) {2012.03.01} (¥8.190) - 90.133 / 745.907 (-86%)
 02./00.  [3DS] Hatsune Miku and Future Stars: Project Mirai # <ACT> (Sega) {2012.03.08} (¥6.090) - 86.676 / NEW
 03./00.  [PS3] Street Fighter X Tekken # <FTG> (Capcom) {2012.03.08} (¥6.990) - 58.471 / NEW
 04./00.  [PS3] Mobile Suit Gundam UC # <ACT> (Bandai Namco Games) {2012.03.08} (¥5.040) - 51.669 / NEW
 05./00.  [3DS] Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater 3D # <ADV> (Konami) {2012.03.08} (¥5.980) - 38.374 / NEW
 06./02. [3DS] Mario & Sonic at the London 2012 Olympic Games <SPT> (Nintendo) {2012.03.01} (¥4.800) - 23.587 / 66.741 (-45%)
 07./06. [3DS] Mario Kart 7 <RCE> (Nintendo) {2011.12.01} (¥4.800) - 17.813 / 1.564.025 (-6%)
 08./08. [3DS] Super Mario 3D Land # <ACT> (Nintendo) {2011.11.03} (¥4.800) - 17.336 / 1.403.654 (+7%)
 09./03. [3DS] Harvest Moon: The Land of Origin <SLG> (Marvelous AQL) {2012.02.23} (¥5.040) - 16.378 / 124.886 (-40%)
 10./09. [3DS] Monster Hunter 3G # <ACT> (Capcom) {2011.12.10} (¥5.800) - 14.286 / 1.297.797 (-10%)
 11./05. [3DS] Theatrhythm Final Fantasy <ACT> (Square Enix) {2012.02.16} (¥6.090) - 12.811 / 112.344 (-41%)
 12./00.  [3DS] Girls RPG: Cinderella Life <RPG> (Level 5) {2012.03.08} (¥4.980) - 9.519 / NEW
 13./07. [PS3] Naruto Shippuden: Narutimate Storm Generation <FTG> (Bandai Namco Games) {2012.02.23} (¥7.330) - 8.591 / 92.266 (-52%)
 14./00.  [360] Street Fighter X Tekken # <FTG> (Capcom) {2012.03.08} (¥6.990) - 8.527 / NEW
 15./00.  [PSV] Unit 13 <ACT> (Sony Computer Entertainment) {2012.03.08} (¥4.980) - 8.089 / NEW
 16./11. [3DS] Doraemon: Nobita and the Island of Miracles <ETC> (FuRyu) {2012.03.01} (¥5.229) - 6.546 / 18.775 (-46%)
 17./10. [PSP] Tales of the Heroes: Twin Brave # <ACT> (Bandai Namco Games) {2012.02.23} (¥6.280) - 5.164 / 102.831 (-58%)
 18./16. [WII] Just Dance Wii <ACT> (Nintendo) {2011.10.13} (¥5.800) - 5.152 / 560.301 (-15%)
 19./18. [PSP] Monster Hunter Freedom 3 (PSP the Best) <ACT> (Capcom) {2011.09.22} (¥2.990) - 5.104 / 212.627 (-1%)
 20./22. [WII] Wii Sports Resort with Wii Remote Plus # <SPT> (Nintendo) {2010.11.11} (¥5.800) - 5.000 / 887.800


 Top 20

 3DS - 10
 PS3 - 4
 PSP - 2
 WII - 2
 360 - 1
 PSV - 1


Where did Binary Domain debut? :/
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: T-Short on March 16, 2012, 09:41:36 AM
Quote from: Borys on March 16, 2012, 09:14:03 AM
Dat Vita.

Still over 10k units sold.

Not only that, sales also INCREASED compared to last week!!!!!
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Joe Molotov on March 16, 2012, 09:44:09 AM
12./00.  [3DS] Girls RPG: Cinderella Life <RPG> (Level 5) {2012.03.08} (¥4.980) - 9.519 / NEW

Level 5 back on top! :rock
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Tasty on March 16, 2012, 09:58:34 AM
Is that good for MGS3D? Bad?
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Momo on March 16, 2012, 10:00:56 AM
Quote from: Andrex on March 16, 2012, 09:58:34 AM
Is that good for MGS3D? Bad?
Pretty low. I expect it should do better abroad though
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Mr. Gundam on March 16, 2012, 01:42:52 PM
Quote from: Momo on March 16, 2012, 06:48:04 AM
Where did Binary Domain debut? :/

Week 1:
02./00. [PS3] Binary Domain <ACT> (Sega) {2012.02.16} (¥8.390) - 73.683 / NEW
Week 2:
11./02. [PS3] Binary Domain <ACT> (Sega) {2012.02.16} (¥8.390) - 14.905 / 88.589 (-80%)
Week 3:
14./11. [PS3] Binary Domain <ACT> (Sega) {2012.02.16} (¥8.390) - 6.775 / 95.364 (-55%)
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Great Rumbler on March 16, 2012, 01:56:36 PM
Quote from: Borys on March 16, 2012, 09:14:03 AM
Dat Vita.

Still over 10k units sold.

The Little Handheld That Could.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Momo on March 16, 2012, 02:48:11 PM
Quote from: Mr. Gundam on March 16, 2012, 01:42:52 PM
Quote from: Momo on March 16, 2012, 06:48:04 AM
Where did Binary Domain debut? :/

Week 1:
02./00. [PS3] Binary Domain <ACT> (Sega) {2012.02.16} (¥8.390) - 73.683 / NEW
Week 2:
11./02. [PS3] Binary Domain <ACT> (Sega) {2012.02.16} (¥8.390) - 14.905 / 88.589 (-80%)
Week 3:
14./11. [PS3] Binary Domain <ACT> (Sega) {2012.02.16} (¥8.390) - 6.775 / 95.364 (-55%)

oh god
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Mr. Gundam on March 16, 2012, 04:08:35 PM
That's honestly way better than I thought it would do.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Bebpo on March 16, 2012, 04:44:58 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on March 16, 2012, 12:03:06 PM
Quote from: Andrex on March 16, 2012, 09:58:34 AM
Is that good for MGS3D? Bad?

Not bad for what I was expecting.

Pretty horrible for the series.

I don't know, I think the HD collection competing with it in such a short period of time didn't help.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Momo on March 16, 2012, 04:50:10 PM
Quote from: Mr. Gundam on March 16, 2012, 04:08:35 PM
That's honestly way better than I thought it would do.
Doesnt seem like nearly enough to get a second nagoshiation. Unless Europe can be awesome :(
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Mr. Gundam on March 16, 2012, 04:53:12 PM
A third person cover shooter pulling in ~100k in a month in Japan isn't that bad.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Tasty on March 16, 2012, 05:09:09 PM
Isn't this like the fifth version of MGS3 anyways?
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on March 16, 2012, 05:30:03 PM
Its a franchise that very rarely graces nintendo consoles and seems to be a clumsy unpolished product.  Not surprised by the MGS3d numbers at all. 
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Stoney Mason on March 19, 2012, 07:20:13 PM
Quote
Launching just a couple of days ago on March 16, Apple reports that 3 million new iPads have already been sold. Around 1 million units of last year's iPad 2 were estimated to have been sold during its opening weekend.

And this is why in the grand scheme of things something like the vita is doomed.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Bebpo on March 19, 2012, 07:34:37 PM
I dunno, if you go by that logic, all gaming is doomed that isn't Apple.

I do think Apple is going to hurt modern games a whole bunch, because it puts J6P in the mindset that videogames are these little 5 min time waster apps for $1-5, and not 20 hour movie-wannabe adventure spectaculars.

But that just brings us full circle to the early days of console gaming and in another 10 years we'll be back at cinematic 60 hour long AAA titles on your phone.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on March 19, 2012, 11:17:43 PM
People aren't buying ipads as primary gaming platforms anymore than people buy computers as primary gaming platforms.  Iphones/Itouches?  Sure.  They do a good job of realigning people's expectations for the handheld market.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on March 21, 2012, 04:48:08 PM
Poor Vita is so awesome.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Oblivion on March 21, 2012, 06:03:02 PM
Some time last year, someone posted some screens that showed MGS 3DS was nothing like the cool looking demo, and in fact was as ugly as one of those terrible third party racing games for the Wii that everyone likes to post when making fun its graphics. I haven't seen anything from the game since, but if it's anything like it was, then it deserved to bomb.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Momo on March 21, 2012, 10:46:58 PM
If graphics were an attribute needed for games on a Nintendo platform to succeed, none would.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Tasty on March 21, 2012, 11:06:02 PM
Quote from: Oblivion on March 21, 2012, 06:03:02 PM
Some time last year, someone posted some screens that showed MGS 3DS was nothing like the cool looking demo, and in fact was as ugly as one of those terrible third party racing games for the Wii that everyone likes to post when making fun its graphics. I haven't seen anything from the game since, but if it's anything like it was, then it deserved to bomb.

Many people in the GAF sales thread were saying it exceeded expectations.

It didn't meet mine but there you have it.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Mr. Gundam on March 22, 2012, 12:39:23 AM
Some people in the GAF Media Create threads are fucking insane and care more about numbers than actually playing games, so take that as you will.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Tasty on March 22, 2012, 01:12:00 AM
Quote from: Mr. Gundam on March 22, 2012, 12:39:23 AM
Some people in the GAF Media Create threads are fucking insane and care more about numbers than actually playing games, so take that as you will.

...was that, umm, some kind of attempt at discrediting their opinion of MGS3D's sales? If it is, it came off petty.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Momo on March 22, 2012, 01:18:52 AM
I read manga/comics, watch anime/tv/movies, eat out with friends a ton, watch sports with friends, speak with friends on twatter/msn/gtalk every damn day yet I find time to buy and play a load of games as well. In fact I just ordered 6 new games
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Oblivion on March 22, 2012, 03:11:05 AM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on March 22, 2012, 01:05:12 AM
Yay, that old bullshit again.  ::)

People interested in numbers are if anything more likely to play more games than those who aren't, because the meta-game of clearing games becomes a numbers-based activity in and of itself.  I can't speak for everyone on there, but I can vouch that most of the old number-crunchers from the Media Create threads play more games than most people around here, by a longshot.

I'm one of those people who said MGS sold better than I was expecting.  Are you going to tell me I don't play games? 

I really get annoyed by that attitude.  Yeah, these guys spend a lot of time reading sales data and doing graphs.  You spend a lot of time watching cartoons about giant robots.  Does that affect how many games you play?  Or is it a separate hobby that you can somehow manage to juggle?

:bow Sales-age/bore :bow2

I don't get the consistent bitching for the sales stuff. Has anyone here seen the NPD threads recently? Back in the good ole days, when they were posted, the thread would increase by 2 pages every minute. Now? I was checking out one recent thread where it maxed out at 11 pages. That was after a WEEK!  :'(
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on March 22, 2012, 04:37:19 AM
Just wait for next gen man, shit will be crazy.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on March 22, 2012, 07:29:18 AM
Mr Gundam has some weird fixation on Andrex. 
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Momo on March 22, 2012, 09:07:50 AM
Stolen from gaf

Quote
Grasshopper considering Shadows of the Damned sequel
 By Martin Robinson Published 22 March, 2012
 EA would "probably" be behind it.

 ...

Eurogamer asked Yamaoka whether, considering the lacklustre sales of Shadows of the Damned, a sequel's still likely.

 "I'm thinking of a sequel, actually," came Yamaoka's short reply. "I can't tell you here, but clearly I'd like to."

 Asked whether it's something that EA, who worked in partnership with Grasshopper on Shadows of the Damned, would back any sequel, Yamaoka's reply was equally curt, if a little more definitive. "Probably," he said, before conceding: "Well, yes."

:lol
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Momo on March 23, 2012, 05:48:41 PM
Sales guys, I need your expertise! I keep running into this theory by Ninthings that Nintendo kept the gaming market alive this gen by providing a cheaper development option for devs. I find this hard to believe, my perception from glancing over sales threads have always been Nintendo platforms have not generated significant revenue for publishers other than Nintendo themselves (apart from SEGA i think). Hasnt the 360 really been the money maker for third parties? Also isn't PC a more profitable platform for smaller sided projects than the Wii?

tl;dr Anyone have numbers showing Nintendo are actually generating significant revenue for third parties that could not be had on 360/PS3/PC?
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Stoney Mason on March 23, 2012, 05:52:35 PM
Quote from: Momo on March 23, 2012, 05:48:41 PM
Sales guys, I need your expertise! I keep running into this theory by Ninthings that Nintendo kept the gaming market alive this gen by providing a cheaper development option for devs.

They are idiots. Nintendo made a lot of money for themselves with the Wii. But Third Parties have always disliked them because the only reason people buy Nintendo hardware is to buy Nintendo games.

edit: This is an exaggeration of course but one with a lot of truth.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: iconoclast on March 23, 2012, 05:52:53 PM
Did Shadows of the Damned sell well? That game was pretty disappointing, don't think I'd play a sequel unless it has a director who has made good games in the past.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Stoney Mason on March 23, 2012, 05:56:30 PM
Quote from: iconoclast on March 23, 2012, 05:52:53 PM
Did Shadows of the Damned sell well? That game was pretty disappointing, don't think I'd play a sequel unless it has a director who has made good games in the past.

No

http://content.usatoday.com/communities/gamehunters/post/2011/07/shadows-of-the-damned-director-talks-slow-sales-single-player-titles/1#.T2zw9TEgcgk


I played the first couple of levels and liked the atmosphere of it but I haven't had time to get back to it.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Momo on March 23, 2012, 06:03:05 PM
Quote from: Stoney Mason on March 23, 2012, 05:52:35 PM
They are idiots. Nintendo made a lot of money for themselves with the Wii. But Third Parties have always disliked them because the only reason people buy Nintendo hardware is to buy Nintendo games.
This is my perception of the scenario as well. I'm not knowledgeable about sales, so I couldn't tell for sure. It's weird that this mindset/self delusion is so widespread when it should easily (?) be proven true or false by looking at sales data for the platform. I dont know where to get the number myself sadly :(


Quote from: iconoclast on March 23, 2012, 05:52:53 PM
Did Shadows of the Damned sell well? That game was pretty disappointing, don't think I'd play a sequel unless it has a director who has made good games in the past.
It sold about 5 copies worldwide, all to the same guy
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: iconoclast on March 23, 2012, 07:27:37 PM
yeah, I figured it sold terribly, so I thought it was weird to see Yamaoka say that EA would back a sequel. I figure they'd want nothing to do with it.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Momo on March 23, 2012, 07:32:03 PM
I posted it here for that reason, it's laughable :lol
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on March 23, 2012, 08:12:19 PM
Nintendo was responsible for most of the GROWTH of the industry during the the primetime of the wii/ds, we have hard numbers to back that up.  Their consoles were breaking records, the software too.  Looking back its insane how much publishers withheld their wares. 
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Momo on March 24, 2012, 02:08:12 AM
Thank you sales wizards :3
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: HyperZoneWasAwesome on March 24, 2012, 03:44:14 AM
there's a lot of smaller-medium devs that still haven't made an HD game.  They've either stuck to making iOS/handheld games with an occasional Wii outing or otherwise.

I mean, Atlus didn't have an HD game till 2011, but they did make three Wii games up til then (luv dem Trauma Centers), and Atlus USA put out games from Sting, Chunsoft and Nordcurrent, all still HD virgins.  Majesco put out a shitload of original and exclusive Wii games, all from smaller developers who haven't done much in the way of 'real' games.  Hudson Soft went to their grave not making an HD game (discounting downloadable Bomberman), maybe they should have.  Marvelous Ent bet big on the Wii, which blew up in their faces, but they're still alive and around, an HD slate that big tanking would have probably killed them.

I'm sure there's more examples out there.  I think that's actually kind of a tragic element of the Wii, it could have been the home of many great studios simply because the HD stakes are too high, but precious few of the ambitious games that did come out for the system were ever successful.  If it was the system that sold millions of copies of The Sky Crawlers and Tatsunoko vs Capcom rather then Dance Game 2 and Fitness Game 14, we'd have a much more interesting game market.

ps
just read Oscar the Grouch's post, he said what I was thinking much more quickly and efficiently.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on March 24, 2012, 05:10:34 AM
Maybe for shovelware companies this is true.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: maxy on March 24, 2012, 05:41:00 AM
Quote
Sales guys, I need your expertise! I keep running into this theory by Ninthings that Nintendo kept the gaming market alive this gen by providing a cheaper development option for devs.

The real question is what makes game development expensive?

I would agree with above quote if Nintendo could shit out games like Mass Effect 3(full production values intact) for half of 360 ME3 dev costs.

That would be a game changer.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Owl-faced Wizard on March 24, 2012, 06:38:13 AM
The Wii itself didn't do much for anybody but Nintendo, but the idea that development is dangerously expensive on higher-end platforms is sound.  It's also hysterical to suggest that people just buy Nintendo systems for Nintendo games - but it is true that people bought the DS and Wii for the games Nintendo made.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: chronovore on March 24, 2012, 09:26:03 AM
I think the easiest way to fail on the Wii was to try to port a PS3/360 game to it, but try to squeeze the controls onto the waggler.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Great Rumbler on March 28, 2012, 05:44:21 PM
Japan stuff:

Vita still holding at 10k
Kid Icarus sold 132k in first week
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Tasty on March 28, 2012, 06:15:05 PM
Quote from: Great Rumbler on March 28, 2012, 05:44:21 PM
Japan stuff:

Vita still holding at 10k
Kid Icarus sold 132k in first week

Decent numbers for both (relative to expectations :teehee)
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Tasty on March 28, 2012, 09:29:32 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on March 28, 2012, 09:00:18 PM
er, Kid Icarus is a frigging smash relative to expectations, Andrex.  Game is sold out *everywhere*.  Nobody, not the retailers, not Nintendo expected it to do so well.

Oh. Well I guess that's what I guess for reading GAF. "Nintendo can't be happy the game only sold that much its first week." <- Actual paraphrased GAF quote

Hope this means a sequel with better controls.

To me it kinda always seemed like a sure thing, at least in Japan. I just had to look at the character art to know that. Japanese fangirls :uguu-ing all over Pit.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Tasty on March 28, 2012, 10:41:29 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on March 28, 2012, 09:47:21 PM
I just quickly skimmed the Media Create thread, and there was *one* guy saying "not the hottest debut, but not so bad" amid *everyone else* talking about how it completely sold out and did really well.  If you look at a crowd of 50 people and only notice the one guy saying something bad, you've got a problem.  A PROBLEM IN THE BRAIN.

My brain has been trained to single out the Nintendo-disparaging posts. It's a real problem especially in the last few years when I've tried to become not so much of a fanboy. :fbm

Anyways, the post in question (http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=36435092&postcount=491):

Quote from: Laguna
I doubt Nintendo will be too happy with Kid Icarus first week sales. It will be interesting to see if it will have any legs.

After most of the preceding posts being "eh OK for Kid Icarus."
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Tasty on March 28, 2012, 11:34:19 PM
Oh well that was the one that kept coming up in my subs and I didn't see anyone overtly advertise the new thread, so here we are. Like I've made mention of before, I rarely venture into the actual forums unless I'm super bored.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on March 28, 2012, 11:42:41 PM
Somehow I doubt the game will have legs, but maybe my wrists are just limp and weak and the majority of the population will be able to tolerate it.  But like I said, I'm happy for it, now get the series on wii u.  Sakurai will probably be busy for 3 years with smash though.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Human Snorenado on March 28, 2012, 11:43:07 PM
Angry Birds Space was downloaded 10m times in like four days.  How does it feel to lose to that, Ninthings?
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Tasty on March 28, 2012, 11:46:51 PM
Quote from: Creepy Old Guy on March 28, 2012, 11:43:07 PM
Angry Birds Space was downloaded 10m times in like four days.  How does it feel to lose to that, Ninthings?

Considering it's free (on the platforms that matter) there really isn't much of a comparison.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: pilonv1 on March 29, 2012, 12:22:28 AM
Whats the development costs on a Pokemon game?
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Momo on March 29, 2012, 12:23:55 AM
well gravity daze sold 100k it seems
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Momo on March 29, 2012, 12:24:57 AM
Quote from: pilonv1 on March 29, 2012, 12:22:28 AM
Whats the development costs on a Pokemon game?
12 donuts, 3 packs of gum and 4 buckets of coffee 
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on March 29, 2012, 12:32:48 AM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on March 28, 2012, 11:58:37 PM
Angry Birds in Space (first four days, worldwide sales):
10,000,000 * $0.99 =
$9,900,000

Pokemon Black/White (first month NA + first week JP sales):
((2,500,000 * $34.99) + (2,500,000 * ￥4800)) = $87,475,000 + ￥12,000,000,000 (about $140,400,000 at the time) =

$227,875,000

That's the kind of losing you should be aspiring for, Triumph.


Ahwawawawaawah.  I hope he comes back.

edit: Ooh oooh, can I contribute?!  Assuming they were making money on the given hardware (which i know isnt the case with 3ds), pokemon is a known system seller.  Being first party software means revenue from the game itself and the system sold.  Furthermore gamefreak are the asset recycler kings and the next copypastas sell millions further.


Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Owl-faced Wizard on March 29, 2012, 01:13:49 AM
Vita is fucking dead.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Human Snorenado on March 29, 2012, 01:15:38 AM
Whatever ninthings, I hope it feels good to cling to a dying publisher who shits out shitty shit out of their shithole.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on March 29, 2012, 01:19:40 AM
Wahwahwah, I can't argue with maths.  Wahwahwah I don't like this thing so it will surely die. Wahwahwah why can't I have hair again.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Human Snorenado on March 29, 2012, 01:31:00 AM
Boo hoo, I'm not the one who clings to Nintendo like an autistic child to his favorite stuffed animal.

...or who thought Wii Music was a game.  And no, reminding your stupid ass of that never gets old.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Momo on March 29, 2012, 02:12:51 AM
Quote from: Owl-faced Wizard on March 29, 2012, 01:13:49 AM
Vita is fucking dead.
Not until the SEGA Nomad II launches
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Smooth Groove on March 29, 2012, 02:23:23 AM
Looks like Vita is gonna need a massive price cut on the system or the memory cards to survive beyond two years.  The system looks so cool.  It's too bad there still aren't enough good games for me to get one. 
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Human Snorenado on March 29, 2012, 04:00:29 AM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on March 29, 2012, 02:53:48 AM
Quote from: Creepy Old Guy on March 29, 2012, 01:15:38 AM
Whatever ninthings, I hope it feels good to cling to a dying publisher who shits out shitty shit out of their shithole.

And your chosen weapon to attack the guys who are shitting out shitty shit out of their shithole is... Angry Birds?

Hey man, those things are ANGRY.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Tasty on April 04, 2012, 02:37:47 PM
So apparently KH 3D bombed? Or pseudo bombed, 213k* or something.

Personally I think it will have great legs but who knows the future.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Flannel Boy on April 04, 2012, 03:21:46 PM
Quote from: Andrex on April 04, 2012, 02:37:47 PM
Personally I think it will have great legs but who knows the future.

You're getting philosophical now that you've hit your teens.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: tiesto on April 04, 2012, 03:27:42 PM
Seems like people are getting tired all these spinoffs that S-E has been doing. I know I got sick of all those remakes and spinoffs back last gen. Stick to core games please S-E.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: magus on April 04, 2012, 03:33:04 PM
umm honest question here but is there any game that reached a million other than mario kart and mario land?
maybe that hatsune miku game? love plus?
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Great Rumbler on April 04, 2012, 03:33:32 PM
Quote from: magus on April 04, 2012, 03:33:04 PM
umm honest question here but is there any game that reached a million other than mario kart and mario land?
maybe that hatsune miku game? love plus?


Monster Hunter
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Tasty on April 04, 2012, 03:41:37 PM
Quote from: Flannel Boy on April 04, 2012, 03:21:46 PM
Quote from: Andrex on April 04, 2012, 02:37:47 PM
Personally I think it will have great legs but who knows the future.

You're getting philosophical now that you've hit your teens.

I think, therefore I like Nintendo.

Eh, good games for a known brand in a proven genre for a platform usually have decent legs, unless I'm mistaken.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: magus on April 04, 2012, 03:44:16 PM
Quote from: Great Rumbler on April 04, 2012, 03:33:32 PM
Quote from: magus on April 04, 2012, 03:33:04 PM
umm honest question here but is there any game that reached a million other than mario kart and mario land?
maybe that hatsune miku game? love plus?


Monster Hunter

really? haven't the japanese bought it twice already? no wonder capcom release so many itsy-bitsy revisions
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Bebpo on April 04, 2012, 05:04:17 PM
KH bombed because it's a cheaply and quickly thrown together crossover geeky fangasm arpg that's probably the first "chapter" in another game

and it released 7 days prior to

A polished crossover geeky fangasm srpg that is the last half/finale to another game (Super Robot Wars Z2-2)


I think there's a large crossover audience between the two, and Z2-2 is much more anticipated and is going to outsell KH next week.  And normally KH games outsell SRW games (500-700k vs. 300-500k).


But that's just my opinion as a fan of crossover geeky fangasm rpgs.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Tasty on April 04, 2012, 05:08:47 PM
Eh? Nothing I've seen has convinced my that DDD isn't a well made, polished, content-packed game.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Bebpo on April 04, 2012, 05:12:21 PM
I'm playing it and it definitely feels way cheaper than BBS or KH1/2.  It's a higher budget, more polished production than either of the DS games but it feels somewhere in the middle between the DS games and BBS.  Probably because it had a year less development time than BBS so it's lacking the polish.  The graphics, the cutscenes, the menus, the camera, all seem worse than BBS.

The gameplay otoh, seems genuinely a step up from BBS (the current best KH combat) and so it seems like a lengthy fun game.  But it just seems to lack that visual polish that extra $$$ and dev time would provide.  Plus they're reaching into the bottom of the barrel Disney franchises with this one whereas BBS has Stich (huge in Japan) and the famous princess movies.


I consider myself representative of the more hardcore KH fanbase, and KH3D is "ok" but it's not really an impressive entry from what I've seen and played.  BBS was one.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: magus on April 04, 2012, 05:13:57 PM
doesn't it have like a great total of 6 world? some of which feature recycled content? (like pinocchio) it rather seems to tend more on the half-assed side than on the good one
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Bebpo on April 04, 2012, 05:17:10 PM
Quote from: magus on April 04, 2012, 05:13:57 PM
doesn't it have like a great total of 6 world? some of which feature recycled content? (like pinocchio) it rather seems to tend more on the half-assed side than on the good one

This and XIII-2 are the first two games to come out of the Wada "2 year dev cycle!" mantra to save the company.  Will it help the company?  Sure.  Will it help the games?  Certainly not.  Some games were out of hand at SE with ridiculously long dev times, but most big budget SE games benefited from the extra time to deliver more quality products.

I used to love SE games, I still kinda like them, but I don't think I will care for their games as much from here on out as they try to be budget-conscious and provide weaker game experiences because of it.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Tasty on April 04, 2012, 05:21:09 PM
Don't care, has Tron Legacy. :hyper :hyper :hyper

Good to hear about the combat though, to me that's more important than flashy menus.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: magus on April 04, 2012, 07:14:09 PM
Quote from: Bebpo on April 04, 2012, 05:17:10 PM
Quote from: magus on April 04, 2012, 05:13:57 PM
doesn't it have like a great total of 6 world? some of which feature recycled content? (like pinocchio) it rather seems to tend more on the half-assed side than on the good one

This and XIII-2 are the first two games to come out of the Wada "2 year dev cycle!" mantra to save the company.  Will it help the company?  Sure.  Will it help the games?  Certainly not.  Some games were out of hand at SE with ridiculously long dev times, but most big budget SE games benefited from the extra time to deliver more quality products.

I used to love SE games, I still kinda like them, but I don't think I will care for their games as much from here on out as they try to be budget-conscious and provide weaker game experiences because of it.

it's all about versus,i might even buy a ps3 if they drops into the 150$ bucks (of course second hand) range and it turns out to be really good
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on April 04, 2012, 07:30:25 PM
Bebpo's just projecting again.  Anything he listed doesn't make sense as factors that would effect an initial release amount sold, but rather would be evident in a significant drop off next week followed by a bad tail from bad word of mouth.  The relatively tepid launch sales are more the result of a lower 3ds install base and the fact that the series keeps jumping ship between platforms.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Bebpo on April 04, 2012, 09:10:11 PM
Aren't those just the typical nintendo fan excuses?

KH did poorly for what it is and the install base is not an excuse at all.  It's easily big enough with enough core gamers to support KH.  Also jumping around systems didn't seem to hurt 352 days or BBS. 


DDD wouldn't have done BBS numbers even on PSP.  It's just not a big deal KH title, but a quickie one done between projects.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Owl-faced Wizard on April 04, 2012, 09:20:43 PM
So why did it do worse?  The only other explanation I can think of - which complements rather than contradicts those perfectly plausible 'excuses' (what a distinguished mentally-challenged way of putting that, btw) - is that KH has a history with Sony systems and most of its fanbase is probably there.

EDIT: Oh, re: the 'quickie-between-projects' thing: fine, but you just said that KH did poorly for what it is.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Bebpo on April 04, 2012, 09:26:27 PM
An entry in a game series can't do worse than the previous entry in sales simply because it appears to be a less interesting entry from all available information to the public?  (trailers/cms/etc...)

The disney worlds in the DDD are the less popular ones, the trailers and commercials haven't been amazing, and Nomura has gone on record to tell the public that the game is just an opening chapter of a later game will probably end on a cliffhanger where you will have to wait 3-5 years until KH3.  To some people, that is the definition of "pick up when it bombas"
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Owl-faced Wizard on April 04, 2012, 09:30:51 PM
No, I accept that (I don't know anything about the game and am happy to take your word for it) - was just saying that you were trying to have it both ways ... 'disappointment' that it did poorly for what it is, then an explanation that says that what it is was why it did poorly.

Further, none of what you're saying actually contradicts what EmCeeGramr said - just compounds it.  Why bother with the 'excuses' nonsense? EDIT: Unless you're auditioning to be Speigel's understudy.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Huff on April 04, 2012, 09:47:34 PM
ECG - low 3ds total hardware and platform switching

Bebop - mediocre game in a series sells worse than better games in series because of mediocrity

I don't understand you're confusion
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Owl-faced Wizard on April 04, 2012, 09:49:58 PM
Also, wasn't the DS version supposed to be shit?  You are tripping over yourself here, bebpo.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Bebpo on April 04, 2012, 10:38:46 PM
The first DS game (358/2 days) was the first major 3d KH game on a handheld.  People were excited to have a 3d KH game on the go and the series was still riding high at that time.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on April 04, 2012, 11:17:47 PM
Quote from: Bebpo on April 04, 2012, 09:26:27 PM
An entry in a game series can't do worse than the previous entry in sales simply because it appears to be a less interesting entry from all available information to the public?  (trailers/cms/etc...)

The disney worlds in the DDD are the less popular ones, the trailers and commercials haven't been amazing, and Nomura has gone on record to tell the public that the game is just an opening chapter of a later game will probably end on a cliffhanger where you will have to wait 3-5 years until KH3.  To some people, that is the definition of "pick up when it bombas"

What I'm saying that is outside of niche games, the general audience for a popular game isn't going to pick up on these faults until after a game is released and word of mouth gets around.  What you are saying would effect the legs of the game, not its debut.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Momo on April 05, 2012, 09:50:00 AM
well thats dumb
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Tasty on April 05, 2012, 09:55:24 AM
Quote from: Borys on April 05, 2012, 07:34:03 AM
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-lBQYzFStstU/T3sWEY9xIaI/AAAAAAAABfw/DadYOXEb_hY/s1600/PS+Vita+iPhone+Advertisment.png

:lol

How is it working for you Sony? Oh wait don't answer!

I'm convinced they put this ad somewhere really close to Wario64.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: originalz on April 05, 2012, 09:55:27 PM
wtf is "Stuff", a magazine or something?
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Eel O'Brian on April 05, 2012, 09:57:10 PM
yeah, it was a "sister" magazine to maxim
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: maxy on April 06, 2012, 11:53:00 AM
This might be interesting

UK
Sales of all games since 1996 to week 6,2012


http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=36701950&postcount=61
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#   Brand                             UK Units   Titles
1   FIFA                              28.1m      36
2   Mario                             22.2m      72
3   Call of Duty                     19.3m      17
4   Sims                              18.0m      70
5   Grand Theft Auto            16.2m       18
6   Sonic the Hedgehog        13.3m        57
7   Star Wars                       13.2m        96
8   Need For Speed              10.8m        25
9   LEGO                             10.1m        47
10   Pokemon                        9.4m        61

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Title Count shows the number of iterations of each game all the way back to the ‘80s. Only sales since 1996 are included.

This analysis is up to and including week ending February 11th, 2012. Some brands will already have added to their Title Count (e.g FIFA Street, Uncharted, UFC, Syndicate).

Brands can be companies, characters, a series and so on. FIFA and Mario are both brands, despite one being licensed and a company and the other an original IP.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Great Rumbler on April 06, 2012, 11:54:07 AM
Euros love them so FIFA.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on April 06, 2012, 12:02:27 PM
Uk not Eu.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Great Rumbler on April 06, 2012, 12:04:25 PM
Quote from: Premium Lager on April 06, 2012, 12:02:27 PM
Uk not Eu.

I have no doubt the same holds true in the rest of Europe.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on April 06, 2012, 12:09:49 PM
I live in Ireland I can blame the Uk for anything man.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Momo on April 06, 2012, 01:43:48 PM
Very, very surprised not to see Championship Manager/Football Manager in there
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Eel O'Brian on April 06, 2012, 01:56:20 PM
Vita's not going to sell until they drop the price, period. People can continue to go around and around about that shit until they're blue in the fingers/face, but that is the bottom line. In the fantasy world of video game message boards where people regularly drop $150 on a "collector's edition" of a game with a shitty art book and a plastic statue, I'm sure it's befuddling why a $250 dedicated handheld system isn't leaving scorch marks on the shelves from flying off so fast, but in the world of normal human beings with shaky jobs in a shaky economy, no one is going to drop that minimum $250 + $20 + $Game + $Tax for what is still essentially an electronic toy, not even if the motherfucker had 6 analog sticks and 4 touchscreens which all sang your praises as you played. Until you can walk into a Wal-Mart/Best Buy/Target and walk out with one for $199 or less (memory stamp included), it doesn't matter what kind of "system seller" game comes out.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on April 06, 2012, 02:00:21 PM
Sonic colors was certainly decent, probably not great, but decent.  Not to say it matches the highs of the earlier games.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Momo on April 06, 2012, 02:03:02 PM
I think Sonic and SEGA All Star Racing, Colours[Havent completed yet] and Generations were pretty great actually
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on April 06, 2012, 03:25:06 PM
It makes me sad watching the footage of the 2d segment Generations stuff because things look mostly spot on.  Make a full game of that with 3 stages 7 zones catchy chiptunes and they could have a New Super Mario Bros type success on their hands (outside of japan because they don't give a shit about Sonic at all these days)
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Tasty on April 06, 2012, 10:24:17 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on April 06, 2012, 09:15:44 PM
The funniest thing about the quality uptick in the Sonic games is that sales have been trending downward with each one.  Sonic fans *want* shitty games, it's clear.  Sonic 4 outsold the shit out of Generations.

That's more because there was no Wii version than anything else. What did Colors sell vs. Sonic 2006 vs. Unleashed HD?
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Tasty on April 06, 2012, 11:33:42 PM
For some reason I thought Colors had sold a ton. Probably other Nintendo fans whispering sweet nothings in my hivemind.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on April 07, 2012, 12:00:05 AM
Quote from: Dr. Feelbad on April 06, 2012, 01:56:20 PM
Vita's not going to sell, period.

Fixed for accuracy.

I think that the target market Sony's aiming for on the Vita won't be buying one.  They're 10x more likely to stick with an iOS device or their PCs.  I would believe the economy excuse but considering how over 30 million iPads, 45 million iPods, and 65 million iPhones were sold last year, I don't think the economy is so fragile that the Vita just can't exist.  It is just that there is a low demand for the Vita.

As a former Dreamcast owner, it's okay to realize that a system you have invested time and money in will be a flop.  Best thing to hope for is that someone cracks the thing wide open, turning the Vita into an amazing general all purpose media device.  Hell, I bet it can do some very advanced emulation.  If it can do stuff like Model 3 and Atomiswave perfectly, I might have to get one for that reason alone.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Eel O'Brian on April 07, 2012, 02:06:41 PM
Quote from: The Experiment on April 07, 2012, 12:00:05 AM
Quote from: Dr. Feelbad on April 06, 2012, 01:56:20 PM
Vita's not going to sell, period.

Fixed for accuracy.

I think that the target market Sony's aiming for on the Vita won't be buying one.  They're 10x more likely to stick with an iOS device or their PCs.  I would believe the economy excuse but considering how over 30 million iPads, 45 million iPods, and 65 million iPhones were sold last year, I don't think the economy is so fragile that the Vita just can't exist.  It is just that there is a low demand for the Vita.

As a former Dreamcast owner, it's okay to realize that a system you have invested time and money in will be a flop.  Best thing to hope for is that someone cracks the thing wide open, turning the Vita into an amazing general all purpose media device.  Hell, I bet it can do some very advanced emulation.  If it can do stuff like Model 3 and Atomiswave perfectly, I might have to get one for that reason alone.

i thought about the ipad/ipod thing before i posted, although they are pretty pricey (except for the ipod touch, you can get one of the 8GB + a nice case + a $50 itunes card for the same retail price as a wifi vita + card...and no game) you can do a lot more with them, and i think people can justify that kind of expenditure more

that's why i went with the "essentially an electronic toy" bit, since 95% of what you'd use a vita for is playing games (they will never have 1/10th the selection of non-game apps that iOS or even Android has)

you are right, though, they really have no target audience other than "uh, everyone?"
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Momo on April 09, 2012, 09:12:46 AM
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2012-04-06-journey-tops-march-psn-sales-chart (http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2012-04-06-journey-tops-march-psn-sales-chart)

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Here's the full chart, as posted on the PlayStation Blog (http://blog.us.playstation.com/2012/04/06/march-2012-psn-top-sellers-journey-soars):
  • Journey
  • Infamous: Festival of Blood
  • Resident Evil 4
  • MotorStorm RC
  • Killzone 3 Multiplayer
  • Mass Effect 3
  • Gotham City Impostors
  • Grand Theft Auto 4
  • Mass Effect 2
  • The Simpsons Arcade Game
  • Rayman 3 HD
  • NBA Jam: On Fire Edition
  • Warriors Orochi 3
  • The House of the Dead 3
  • Limbo
  • Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare
  • Real Steel
  • Mortal Kombat Arcade Kollection
  • Star Wars: The Force Unleashed 2
  • Sonic CD
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: maxy on April 09, 2012, 01:57:48 PM
http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2012-04-09-ps3-sales-continue-to-lag-xbox-price-cut-likely-by-e3-says-pachter (http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2012-04-09-ps3-sales-continue-to-lag-xbox-price-cut-likely-by-e3-says-pachter)

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E3 is right around the corner in June, and while Nintendo's Wii U is likely to grab the spotlight with no next-gen announcements planned from Microsoft and Sony, Nintendo's rivals could apply some pressure to the market with hardware price cuts. In fact, Wedbush Securities analyst Michael Pachter sees a PS3 price drop as a likely outcome at E3.

Pachter also believes that Microsoft will "consider" a price cut. The Xbox 360 has been outselling the PS3 in the US each month, but the sales appear to be gradually slowing.

"We expect hardware sales to rebound once price cuts are implemented, but expect a recurrence of the dip next holiday, partially buffered by some modest contribution from the introduction of the PS Vita in February and the Wii U later this year. Recent slowing of Xbox 360 hardware sales could cause Microsoft to consider a price cut by E3. We do not expect an announcement of a next- generation console from Microsoft until the Xbox 360 core model is priced below $200, likely around this time next year. PS3 hardware sales should continue to lag those of the Xbox 360, and we expect sales to trend downward by 10 - 20% monthly, until Sony cuts prices once again, likely at E3," he wrote.

Yay or Nay?

Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Huff on April 09, 2012, 02:00:06 PM
Nah, its only be 200 for a couple months.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: maxy on April 09, 2012, 02:09:43 PM
200?

PS3 is 250
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Trent Dole on April 09, 2012, 02:21:50 PM
That sounds like Pachman expects the hard drive having 360 to go to $200. I don't see a $100 price cut happening.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Momo on April 09, 2012, 02:55:38 PM
Are Sony making profit on consoles sold? Is there room to shave off price? Not sure but I suspect no.

As for MS, I can see them doing a reduced price xbox + kinect bundle.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: maxy on April 10, 2012, 03:59:34 AM
Price cut seems unlikely.

Things are not rosy in Sony-land.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/04/10/us-sony-idUSBRE83907220120410?type=companyNews (http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/04/10/us-sony-idUSBRE83907220120410?type=companyNews)
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(Reuters) - Sony Corp. said on Tuesday it will post a record net loss for the year that ended March 31 of 520 billion yen ($6.4 billion), more than double a February forecast as a result of additional tax expenses.

The consumer electronics company, said, however, it plans to return to an operating profit this financial year, forecasting a profit of 180 billion yen after an estimated loss of 95 billion yen for the year just ended.

($1 = 81.3900 Japanese yen)
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Momo on April 10, 2012, 04:10:00 AM
So just MS then, if they are going into final stretch mode before next gen as I suspect
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: magus on April 10, 2012, 08:01:28 AM
if the ps3 drops to 200$ maybe i can finaly get all that :uguu uguust goodness
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: archie4208 on April 10, 2012, 08:07:07 AM
Don't forget you'll actually have to buy PS3 games. 
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Tasty on April 10, 2012, 11:30:18 AM
How much did Nintendo say they were gonna lose last FY?

Sony copying Nintendo again.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: magus on April 10, 2012, 01:30:16 PM
Quote from: archie4208 on April 10, 2012, 08:07:07 AM
Don't forget you'll actually have to buy PS3 games.

eh i know of a secret trick :teehee
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Huff on April 10, 2012, 02:04:49 PM
Quote from: maxy on April 09, 2012, 02:09:43 PM
200?

PS3 is 250

they had that 200 bundle for black friday and i guess i just assumed it was going to stay that price.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on April 11, 2012, 11:26:51 AM
inb4 smug xbots bashing vita
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Owl-faced Wizard on April 11, 2012, 11:33:19 AM
Vita is fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuucked.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on April 11, 2012, 11:34:18 AM
the 360 is oding horirble in japan yet it still does fine  ???
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Owl-faced Wizard on April 11, 2012, 11:35:19 AM
I wonder when Sony will start porting Vita games to PS3.  They have to be thinking about it.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on April 11, 2012, 11:38:59 AM
who cdares
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: maxy on April 11, 2012, 11:39:40 AM
3DS   72,115
PS3   19,370
PSP   14,804
Vita   8,931
Wii   7,099
Xbox 360   3,764
PS2   1,355
DSi LL   793
DSi   743

4k for xbawks?!

what happened?
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Great Rumbler on April 11, 2012, 11:43:53 AM
This is the first week that the Vita dropped below 10k.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Owl-faced Wizard on April 11, 2012, 11:45:40 AM
Quote from: maxy on April 11, 2012, 11:39:40 AM
3DS   72,115
PS3   19,370
PSP   14,804
Vita   8,931
Wii   7,099
Xbox 360   3,764
PS2   1,355
DSi LL   793
DSi   743

4k for xbawks?!

what happened?

Clearly it's people shifting away from Vita to a system with a more promising future.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Stoney Mason on April 11, 2012, 11:48:26 AM
I've never ran into any "normal" person who either owns a vita or even knows about it.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: maxy on April 11, 2012, 11:51:49 AM
Looks like Kinect Star Wars is a system seller.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on April 11, 2012, 11:51:53 AM
that easy to say when u have no friends tho
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Tasty on April 11, 2012, 12:29:02 PM
Quote from: Great Rumbler on April 11, 2012, 11:43:53 AM
This is the first week that the Vita dropped below 10k.

Glorious week. I have to give the Vita credit though, I thought it would have happened a long time ago by now.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Stoney Mason on April 11, 2012, 12:37:37 PM
In the grand scheme of things selling <15k like its being doing for a long time is terrible anyway you want to cut it, especially in what's supposed to be its strongest market and relative to its direct competition the 3ds. Dropping below the 10k mark is just some arbitrary forum dividing line to mock.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on April 11, 2012, 12:43:58 PM
except no one cares
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Stoney Mason on April 11, 2012, 12:45:03 PM
Fuck off shithead.  Sales thread.

I know it hurts you though.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on April 11, 2012, 12:46:24 PM
if you get visibly upset over video game sales or take gleei n the fact that a company that has brought us some of the most amazing wonderfull beautiful gameplaye experiecnes ever and a great system called teh vita is flopping then u have psycology issues sry
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Stoney Mason on April 11, 2012, 12:47:42 PM
Every so often I get to urge to call you a shithead because of your shitty posting and trolling. Thankfully I've gotten my fill for awhile with these two posts.

So FUCK OFF SHITHEAD!

 :D
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on April 11, 2012, 12:49:31 PM
ok. just know my shoulder won't be availble for you to cry on
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Momo on April 11, 2012, 01:01:13 PM
Thomas do you always post from your cellphone or something?
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on April 11, 2012, 01:02:50 PM
no i post with my g15 keyoard
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: tiesto on April 11, 2012, 01:03:59 PM
I honestly thought Vita would do much better in Japan than it has been doing... then that way get all the quality Japanese games and hopefully eventually get a model with AV out. So I can get the experience of HD-quality console games out of Japan again.  :-\
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Tasty on April 11, 2012, 01:27:54 PM
Quote from: tiesto on April 11, 2012, 01:03:59 PM
I honestly thought Vita would do much better in Japan than it has been doing... then that way get all the quality Japanese games and hopefully eventually get a model with AV out. So I can get the experience of HD-quality console games out of Japan again.  :-\

There's always Wii U.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Momo on April 11, 2012, 01:38:40 PM
Quote from: Thomas Householmes Lane on April 11, 2012, 01:02:50 PM
no i post with my g15 keyoard
I think it's broken :-\

Quote from: tiesto on April 11, 2012, 01:03:59 PM
I honestly thought Vita would do much better in Japan than it has been doing... then that way get all the quality Japanese games and hopefully eventually get a model with AV out. So I can get the experience of HD-quality console games out of Japan again.  :-\
I grabbed a Vita from work today and I'm testing out all the majigs on here. I'd honestly love it much more if it had HDMI out, so I'll see if they add that to the hw before I buy my own. The software on offer is good.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: tiesto on April 11, 2012, 01:42:01 PM
Quote from: Andrex on April 11, 2012, 01:27:54 PM
Quote from: tiesto on April 11, 2012, 01:03:59 PM
I honestly thought Vita would do much better in Japan than it has been doing... then that way get all the quality Japanese games and hopefully eventually get a model with AV out. So I can get the experience of HD-quality console games out of Japan again.  :-\

There's always Wii U.

Because Japanese 3rd parties really took to the N64, Gamecube (OK maybe a tad for this), or Wii  :lol
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: maxy on April 11, 2012, 01:46:56 PM
My survival tips


Get MH at any cost

Pack in 4GB memory card at least.No storage is the stupidest decision ever,2012 digitally oriented device and you have to buy some proprietary card to save or even boot some games...come on
MS had sku like that and it sold like shit despite being $100 cheaper.

Talk to Western devs and try to get quality games ports--old,new,day and date,etc it doesn't matter just get something that Western core audience is interested in
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Tasty on April 11, 2012, 01:47:33 PM
Quote from: tiesto on April 11, 2012, 01:42:01 PM
Quote from: Andrex on April 11, 2012, 01:27:54 PM
Quote from: tiesto on April 11, 2012, 01:03:59 PM
I honestly thought Vita would do much better in Japan than it has been doing... then that way get all the quality Japanese games and hopefully eventually get a model with AV out. So I can get the experience of HD-quality console games out of Japan again.  :-\

There's always Wii U.

Because Japanese 3rd parties really took to the N64, Gamecube (OK maybe a tad for this), or Wii  :lol

(http://i.imgur.com/UKLUw.png)
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on April 11, 2012, 01:58:27 PM
I thought 4 gig cards were being included now?  I think Nintendo wrapped monster hunter up pretty tightly.   In the west, you're not tearing adults away from their smartphones to play games on a dedicated device these days.  Its gonna take something akin to a phenomenal out of nowhere game to turn the vita around.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Eel O'Brian on April 11, 2012, 02:04:04 PM
that's not fair, sometimes andrex's mom drives him
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: maxy on April 11, 2012, 02:31:14 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on April 11, 2012, 01:58:41 PM
Quote from: maxy on April 11, 2012, 01:46:56 PM
Talk to Western devs and try to get quality games ports--old,new,day and date,etc it doesn't matter just get something that Western core audience is interested in

This is bad advice.  It's chasing a market that does not exist.  The Western core audience isn't going to give up their TVs to play their core games, and their iPhones/Androids likely take care of everything else.

This is basically the fundamental misstep of the PSP in Western markets, and it's likely the Vita will follow.  There is a market for dedicated handheld gaming devices in America, and they all ride the school bus.

I know,but I'm kinda hoping that good controls,graphics and reasonably priced ports create some niche.
Sony better have some strategy at E3 or  Vita is :violin

RE6,LP3,Crysis 3 and not a single mention of Vita,not even some shitty rumor.Not surprising,but still...titanic.gif
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Tasty on April 11, 2012, 02:53:04 PM
Quote from: Dr. Feelbad on April 11, 2012, 02:04:04 PM
that's not fair, sometimes andrex's mom drives him

Sometimes I ride the subway all by myself. :maf
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on April 11, 2012, 11:50:22 PM
It will be interesting to see what is in store for the Vita at E3.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Eel O'Brian on April 12, 2012, 12:09:49 AM
i predict ps1 and portover app support via playstation suite announcement (presented as if it is some new amazing thing they hadn't already talked about), a cod demo, a lbp demo, and another vague wall of logos

like i said, if they only spend five minutes or so of their presentation on it, you'll know its future
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: AdmiralViscen on April 12, 2012, 12:19:26 AM
There is no good reason why this doesn't have 8gb built in. I might have bought one.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Eel O'Brian on April 12, 2012, 12:23:18 AM
i will bet after e3 you'll get at least 4gb in the box

like prole said on the podcast, get ready for a bunch of halfassed iOS and 3DS ports

at least they will have some controls  :-\
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: pilonv1 on April 12, 2012, 12:30:24 AM
Quote from: Dr. Feelbad on April 12, 2012, 12:09:49 AM
i predict ps1 and portover app support via playstation suite announcement (presented as if it is some new amazing thing they hadn't already talked about), a cod demo, a lbp demo, and another vague wall of logos

Add in a mix of GT Vita (released 2020), God of War and Madden and that will probably be it.

Nothing new or exciting I would think.

Quote
i will bet after e3 you'll get at least 4gb in the box

They're already doing free 4GB card with the 3g model in Australia, just soft bundled in store.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Eel O'Brian on April 12, 2012, 12:35:33 AM
maybe they will have some laughable, clunky peripheral to announce that makes use of the mystery port on the top of the unit
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Post by: Owl-faced Wizard on April 12, 2012, 02:46:50 AM
Quote from: Dr. Feelbad on April 12, 2012, 12:35:33 AM
maybe they will have some laughable, clunky peripheral to announce that makes use of the mystery port on the top of the unit

That's where the catheter goes.
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Post by: Shaka Khan on April 12, 2012, 02:50:50 AM
Late to the...
Quote from: Owl-faced Wizard on April 11, 2012, 11:33:19 AM
Vita is fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuucked.

thiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiis

omg I'm enjoying the train-wreck more than I should.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: maxy on April 12, 2012, 03:05:31 AM
they could just bend over
 :D

anyway


http://www.sony.net/SonyInfo/IR/info/strategy2012/index.html#block0 (http://www.sony.net/SonyInfo/IR/info/strategy2012/index.html#block0)

If i'm reading it right,"game" segment had about $500 mill profits in FY2011.They plan to bump that to about $1 billion for FY2014.Planned sales volume increase is not that dramatic though(in %)...about 20% increase

It looks like they don't plan to take much loss(if any) on PS4 hardware.Late 2013 release means only few months in FY2013.

PS4=Vita 2
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on April 12, 2012, 03:06:13 PM
Poor vita. Its just a few years late.

Sony should have made a PSPhone 5 years ago.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on April 12, 2012, 06:42:16 PM
(http://images.eurogamer.net/2012/articles//a/1/4/7/4/8/0/1/npdmarch2012.jpg)

vita game in the top 10 :bow
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: maxy on April 12, 2012, 06:45:54 PM
RE: ORC sold 582k units
Mass Effect 3 sold more than twice as much as did Mass Effect 2 during its introductory month in January 2010
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on April 12, 2012, 06:48:35 PM
Wheres Kid Icarus  :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol

MLB THA SHOW VITA outsold Kid Icarus  :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on April 12, 2012, 06:54:02 PM
couldve shouldve wouldve but it didn't. who cares nintenbots. VITA THE SHOW is charted kid icarus isnt
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on April 12, 2012, 06:54:42 PM
weres metal gear solid 3ds?  :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: magus on April 12, 2012, 06:54:57 PM
"OMG CAPCOM AND EA ARE THE WORST PUBLISHER EVER"

*see 2 capcom and EA games on the list of the best sellers*

:fbm
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Post by: maxy on April 12, 2012, 06:56:53 PM
Quote
“Nearly two months after hitting the North American market, the PS Vita ecosystem continues to grow with impressive hardware, software, and peripherals sales among big-box retailers, smaller retail shops and digital. We are seeing strong digital downloads across the board, including full digital-only purchases and extremely high conversion rates for digital demos to full game purchases with titles such as Unit 13, which showcases PS Vita's unique 3G and shooter capabilities. We look forward to furthering the PS Vita momentum with upcoming blockbuster titles like Mortal Kombat and Resistance: Burning Skies, and apps including Skype.”
-- Dan Race, Sr. Director of Corporate Communications at SCEA

No PS3...
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on April 12, 2012, 06:58:12 PM
3ds  :lol :lol :lol

vita :bow :bow :bow
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Great Rumbler on April 12, 2012, 07:00:02 PM
MLB 12: The Show sold the bulk of its units on the PS3.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on April 12, 2012, 07:00:54 PM
wellduh but all that matters is it says vita in that jpg
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Post by: Great Rumbler on April 12, 2012, 07:07:07 PM
Quote from: Thomas Householmes Lane on April 12, 2012, 07:00:54 PM
wellduh but all that matters is it says vita in that jpg

Not really.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on April 12, 2012, 07:07:52 PM
yes cuz months from now when ever someone says "vita sells no games" i can show that image and no one will care about the numebrs :)
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Post by: Great Rumbler on April 12, 2012, 07:09:21 PM
That would assume that anyone is willing to listen to you.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on April 12, 2012, 07:10:03 PM
i've posted here forever
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Tasty on April 12, 2012, 07:11:10 PM
I can't believe Mario Party STILL has that much pull. And on a dead system! Damn. itprintsmoney
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Great Rumbler on April 12, 2012, 07:12:53 PM
Quote from: Thomas Householmes Lane on April 12, 2012, 07:10:03 PM
i've posted here forever

Exactly.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: pilonv1 on April 12, 2012, 07:27:44 PM
Quote from: Thomas Householmes Lane on April 12, 2012, 06:48:35 PM
MLB THA SHOW VITA outsold Kid Icarus  :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol

wouldn't count on that
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on April 12, 2012, 07:55:27 PM
Sounds like the Vita fucking tanked.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Huff on April 12, 2012, 08:06:52 PM
Sounds like everything tanked hard. Vita just probably harder than most
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Post by: EmCeeGrammar on April 12, 2012, 08:30:58 PM
Hope 3ds numbers leak, Kid Icarus doing well bodes well for future releases selling well in a smartphone world.  Publishers just need to advertise their games.  Now make a WiiU version.

ediiiiiittttttt!!!!!:

Kid icarus 135k
SML 3D 100k/1.98m
3DS 225k
Wii 175k
MP9 230
MK7 118k/1.58m

Not too shabby methinks.  I wonder if Nintendogs combined skus are still a precense.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Tasty on April 12, 2012, 08:37:33 PM
KI numbers are OK. 3DS is pretty good, I think. Cool that SM3DL is almost at 2 mil in US alone, kinda crazy it's outselling MK actually.
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Post by: EmCeeGrammar on April 12, 2012, 08:39:25 PM
Hmmm, thinking about it again the KI number seems kind of low considering how much advertising it got.  I seem to remember Elite Beat Agents being the precedent here.
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Post by: choco parfait on April 12, 2012, 09:17:37 PM
NG3 sales yet? Want to see the amazing sales Hayashi's spectacular vision brought for Tecmo-Koei!
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on April 12, 2012, 09:54:26 PM
vita sold 200k, more than the 3ds's second month :bow
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on April 12, 2012, 09:59:56 PM
all that matters is the jpeg that says vita in it and doest say 3DS n e weres.

lol @ vita outselling 3ds second month tho.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Bebpo on April 12, 2012, 10:00:27 PM
So what I don't understand is with all the systems (cheap or expensive) and all the games doing ok -> poor worldwide in every market outside of guaranteed hits like MARIO and such....how is the industry going to fix itself on software sales.

The market seems to have just given up on all software that isn't Mario or big name Call of Duty/Madden/Dance stuff. 


How do you get people to buy videogames in large amounts once again like the 90s or early 00s? 
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: demi on April 12, 2012, 10:02:29 PM
Give them jobs to actually spend money.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Bebpo on April 12, 2012, 10:03:41 PM
It's more than just the economy hurting the downward sale numbers of your average game.  Every industry got hit by the recession and many have come back.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: demi on April 12, 2012, 10:05:34 PM
Ok.

Stop making games like WoW and Facebook and iPod. Look at people like PD. Play nothing but WoW and not real games.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Bebpo on April 12, 2012, 10:08:10 PM
Also Sony or someone NEEDS to start giving the public info on DD sales numbers.  It used to be something you could write off like "oh, maybe a few people will buy a game DD as opposed to retail" but with the Vita, I'm probably the only person I know whose buying physical carts and I do not believe they are some insignificant portion.  In Japan where they are 10 years behind the US in DD, Gravity Daze sold like 20k or a 1/5th of its sales digitally. 

If they started selling iOS games in retail packages as well as on the app store, the app store numbers would be a HUGE portion of the total sales.  People these days in the US are really into DD gaming.  I don't think it's some miniscule number and I think it probably is why the software numbers on NPD would look off if the hardware is selling.  It's not like the PSP where people are buying the hardware to pirate.  There's literally NOTHING you can do on the hardware besides buying games and playing them.

But it's all speculation until someone breaks a goddamn NDA and says "we sold 20k retail copies and 60k through PSN for our game".  One day someone will release some fricken numbers and then we can start to analyze all titles based on the ratios.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Eel O'Brian on April 12, 2012, 10:16:41 PM
Quote from: demi on April 12, 2012, 10:02:29 PM
Give them jobs to actually spend money.

nail, head, etc

i dunno where all this magical rebounding is happening but it certainly isn't around here, unemployment rate hit nearly 12% recently, no one's buying shit
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on April 12, 2012, 10:19:12 PM
or they can just not announce the numbers and let insane fanboys on the internet continue to rage while they laugh their way to the bank with even higher profit margins from digital games.
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Post by: Eel O'Brian on April 12, 2012, 10:21:58 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on April 12, 2012, 10:19:25 PM
clearly the solution to the problem of people only buying one or two skus per month is to strangle the used games business like an infant hitler in its crib.  that will definitely make things better.

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-j7A7P6T9ZlQ/TmnejBiE2CI/AAAAAAAAAhA/RnKueQsrsE8/s1600/blank.JPG) Richard Browne likes this.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on April 12, 2012, 10:23:09 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on April 12, 2012, 10:21:02 PM
methodis, you are aware the present sony is about two bad fiscal years away from bankruptcy, right?  south korea is making a goddam fool of the japanese ce industry, and sony is basically the posterboy for that.  they aren't laughing their way to anything resembling a bank.

i dont actually care if sony go out of business or anything. i play video games i dont make them my life
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on April 12, 2012, 10:26:46 PM
its what i do thats my job  ???
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on April 12, 2012, 10:31:07 PM
no i mean its my job as a poster of evilbore
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on April 12, 2012, 10:33:40 PM
i dont spend many hours on here. i've been unemployed since december 3rd.
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Post by: Tasty on April 12, 2012, 10:41:14 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on April 12, 2012, 10:21:02 PM
methodis, you are aware the present sony is about two bad fiscal years away from bankruptcy, right?  south korea is making a goddam fool of the japanese ce industry, and sony is basically the posterboy for that.  they aren't laughing their way to anything resembling a bank.

(http://i.minus.com/iba0Eic3dSBhb.gif)

PS Vita. I have a family to feed.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Trent Dole on April 12, 2012, 10:56:09 PM
Who the hell thought a X-Blades sequel was a good idea and why do they still have a job.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Eel O'Brian on April 12, 2012, 10:56:46 PM
methodis could you please teach andrex how to troll
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Tasty on April 12, 2012, 10:59:51 PM
Quote from: Dr. Feelbad on April 12, 2012, 10:56:46 PM
methodis could you please teach andrex how to troll

shut it stinchface.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on April 12, 2012, 11:00:41 PM
u gotta think out two sentences - one logical and one inlogical. then u mash them together and form a sentence

the xbox 360 is dog shit

two sentences:
the xbox 360 is succesfull
white nazis are dog shit

vah lah
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: pilonv1 on April 13, 2012, 12:03:53 AM
Tiger had 2-3 days of sales Oscar, still not great though.
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Post by: Tasty on April 13, 2012, 12:10:52 AM
Quote from: Thomas Householmes Lane on April 12, 2012, 10:33:40 PM
i dont spend many hours on here. i've been unemployed since december 3rd.

I knew you weren't at PAX.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on April 13, 2012, 12:11:18 AM
There's a new Tiger Woods out?  I just got last years version like two months ago.
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Post by: Bebpo on April 13, 2012, 12:42:41 AM
Time for a rebrand then.

Michael Jordan's Golf


I would possibly buy that
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Momo on April 13, 2012, 01:00:50 AM
Hot Shots Golf has already replaced Neo Turf Masters as the golf game to have, no need for fixing Tiger  :-[ 
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on April 13, 2012, 01:18:37 AM
Oscar, how well do Musou games usually sell?
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Post by: Cerveza mas fina on April 13, 2012, 03:19:38 AM
RE Raccoon City is doing major damage to the franchise now that it sold well.

Quote from: Bebpo on April 12, 2012, 10:03:41 PM
It's more than just the economy hurting the downward sale numbers of your average game.  Every industry got hit by the recession and many have come back.

I think the industry is just more spread out now. NPD doesn't account for that at all.

Millions of people are playing and paying F2P stuff nowadays.
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Post by: Bebpo on April 13, 2012, 03:27:18 AM
Yeah, I feel bad for people who don't read gaming news and bought ORC.  My brother whose a casual gamer but always liked the RE series asked me about it one day after seeing some commercials on tv.  I think he might have bought it if I hadn't explained to him that it was an outsourced POS that got 3/10 reviews.  He'll probably buy RE6.
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Post by: maxy on April 13, 2012, 04:09:55 AM
Not surprised by software downfall

Long gen+cheap(used) games+unstable economic climate = must have games

New owners can enjoy hundreds of cheap games without giving any penny to developers.
Old owners have huge backlogs,no point in buying anything new.

One thing is for sure,things ain't getting better anytime soon.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Bebpo on April 13, 2012, 05:03:58 AM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on April 13, 2012, 03:32:27 AM
Quote from: The Experiment on April 13, 2012, 01:18:37 AM
Oscar, how well do Musou games usually sell?

Well, not especially well, but they sometimes do well enough.  One recent one did numbers like Kid Icarus for example.  Considering how little advertising they get, I think it's pretty easy to call them successful.

I'm not too sure they're considered a success anymore.  That both WO3 and now One Piece Musou are getting digital only releases on ps3 and dw7 Xl didn't come to x360...seems like they're getting worried and trying to cut costs.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: maxy on April 14, 2012, 03:23:54 AM
(http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/17jgr0q1583m3jpg/original.jpg)
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Great Rumbler on April 14, 2012, 10:31:38 AM
More perspective: It's going to be at least another YEAR before the next-gen Xbox comes out.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on April 14, 2012, 11:41:13 AM
I don't think there is anything wrong with the generation lasting as long as it did.  I still get impressed with some graphics I see from the 360 and PS3.  As for the Wii, that shit was outdated from the get-go.  Besides, the SKUs are still at $199 or higher.  If it were previous generations, all consoles would be $99-129 at this point.  Not $299.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Sho Nuff on April 14, 2012, 11:44:21 AM
20,000 sales across both platforms for Binary Domain  :(
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Tasty on April 14, 2012, 12:17:07 PM
Anyone (Oscar) know how much Okami Wii ended up selling?
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Post by: Stoney Mason on April 14, 2012, 12:22:58 PM
Quote from: The Experiment on April 14, 2012, 11:41:13 AM
I don't think there is anything wrong with the generation lasting as long as it did.  I still get impressed with some graphics I see from the 360 and PS3.  As for the Wii, that shit was outdated from the get-go.  Besides, the SKUs are still at $199 or higher.  If it were previous generations, all consoles would be $99-129 at this point.  Not $299.

As long as next gen rolls out in the fall of next year I'm fine with how long this gen lasted. First you have options if you wanted to. If you wanted the leap in tech you could just buy a PC. Along with the fact that this gen simply launched at crazy non-mass market prices. If you want good tech there is a cost to that. And the cost is a high launch price which slows down the adoption rate. I like a long gen.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: archnemesis on April 14, 2012, 12:25:45 PM
Quote from: Andrex on April 14, 2012, 12:17:07 PM
Anyone (Oscar) know how much Okami Wii ended up selling?
165,900 in the US
38,519 in Japan
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Momo on April 14, 2012, 12:30:40 PM
Quote from: Sho Nuff on April 14, 2012, 11:44:21 AM
20,000 sales across both platforms for Binary Domain  :(
Motherfuckers :-\

I dont blame SEGA for doing what they are doing now if the market rewards them with this shit when they actually try and deliver.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: archnemesis on April 14, 2012, 01:11:14 PM
Really? NPD was my source (via IGN (http://uk.wii.ign.com/articles/952/952652p1.html)) for my US numbers. The article was published 10 months after its launch, so I didn't expect it would sell much more after that.
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Post by: archnemesis on April 14, 2012, 01:47:20 PM
I suppose that comes with having a large userbase and a high Metascore.
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Post by: Tasty on April 14, 2012, 02:00:05 PM
Quote from: archnemesis on April 14, 2012, 12:25:45 PM
Quote from: Andrex on April 14, 2012, 12:17:07 PM
Anyone (Oscar) know how much Okami Wii ended up selling?
165,900 in the US
38,519 in Japan

Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on April 14, 2012, 12:59:34 PM
the fun thing is neither of those okami numbers are right

japanese sales are a little higher (arch didn't account the best price version that sold an additional 12k copies) and the NPD sales are a good chunk higher, nearly 50% more.

Isn't that kind of impressive?

The US number I mean.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Tasty on April 14, 2012, 02:47:26 PM
I mean it wouldn't be enough to make bank on an ground-up original game with the budget of Okami, but as a port I think that's pretty fantastic, even if a lot of it was at discount.

Then again I can't imagine Capcom turned a hefty profit on the PS2 release either.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Tasty on April 14, 2012, 10:03:07 PM
How did Okamiden do, in comparison? I get the feeling it did OK for some reason.
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Post by: iconoclast on April 14, 2012, 10:36:24 PM
DMC did poorly compared to other HD collections?

Guess Capcom was right all along. DmC will save the brand.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Tasty on April 15, 2012, 12:30:38 AM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on April 15, 2012, 12:00:57 AM
Okamiden did a lot worse than the other versions of Okami, but it still managed over 100k, so that makes it more successful than Bionic Commando 2009, Dark Void, any Yakuza game, Binary Domain, etc.

In America or worldwide? I thought I read it opened 89k in Japan.
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Post by: Tasty on April 17, 2012, 11:48:50 PM
(http://i.minus.com/jmJtIMEAlO4DR.jpg)

 :violin
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Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on April 17, 2012, 11:50:00 PM
can u get numbers on frequeny and amplitude segata
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: pilonv1 on April 18, 2012, 12:03:31 AM
Probably but he's not giving them to you.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: pilonv1 on April 18, 2012, 01:26:48 AM
I could tell you but I'd have to kill you, or at least read methodis' posts over and over again
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on April 18, 2012, 03:37:53 AM
I really thought they had learned from the PS3.
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Post by: AdmiralViscen on April 18, 2012, 08:16:46 AM
You mean the best console of all time? :smug

Maybe they should have learned from Xbox and put a red ring on the vita  :drake
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on April 18, 2012, 09:45:52 AM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on April 18, 2012, 12:55:29 AM
sorry methodis, frequency is older than the monthly data I have, and sold too poorly to make it on the LTD data I have.  amplitude sold too poorly to make the LTD cutoff, but i have some monthly data and it looks like it most likely ended up under 50k.

thanks  :'(
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Tasty on April 18, 2012, 12:23:04 PM
3DS 63.796
PS3 17.765
PSP 13.166
PSV 8.250
WII 6.837
NDS 1.433
360 1.373
PS2 1.212
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Post by: Great Rumbler on April 18, 2012, 12:23:59 PM
Pobrevita
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Tasty on April 18, 2012, 12:26:52 PM
PlayStation™ Family remains inseparable!
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: cool breeze on April 18, 2012, 01:32:08 PM
So is the ds dead or is this week an exception?

Maybe sony should've been less stupid about bc
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Tasty on April 18, 2012, 01:34:49 PM
Quote from: Linkzg on April 18, 2012, 01:32:08 PM
So is the ds dead or is this week an exception?

Maybe sony should've been less stupid about bc

DS or 3DS? DS hardware has been mostly dead since the price drop (since, as Oscar said, a 3DS can completely supersede it. Dat BC.)
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: cool breeze on April 18, 2012, 01:37:37 PM
yeah, ds

again, Sony maybe should've realized people still had Conception to look forward to
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Bebpo on April 18, 2012, 02:05:58 PM
Quote from: Andrex on April 18, 2012, 01:34:49 PM
Quote from: Linkzg on April 18, 2012, 01:32:08 PM
So is the ds dead or is this week an exception?

Maybe sony should've been less stupid about bc

DS or 3DS? DS hardware has been mostly dead since the price drop (since, as Oscar said, a 3DS can completely supersede it. Dat BC.)

Eh, I still use my DS to play DS games because the BC isn't good enough quality on 3DS.  Then again it's still better than no BC at all that the Vita has for UMD games.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Tasty on April 18, 2012, 04:02:31 PM
Quote from: Bebpo on April 18, 2012, 02:05:58 PM
Quote from: Andrex on April 18, 2012, 01:34:49 PM
Quote from: Linkzg on April 18, 2012, 01:32:08 PM
So is the ds dead or is this week an exception?

Maybe sony should've been less stupid about bc

DS or 3DS? DS hardware has been mostly dead since the price drop (since, as Oscar said, a 3DS can completely supersede it. Dat BC.)

Eh, I still use my DS to play DS games because the BC isn't good enough quality on 3DS.  Then again it's still better than no BC at all that the Vita has for UMD games.

For "new" consumers it's the better buy because it can play DS and 3DS games, was my point.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on April 18, 2012, 06:13:16 PM
Quote from: Borys in July on April 18, 2012, 02:54:04 PM
Dat 6k barrier.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: maxy on April 25, 2012, 12:27:25 PM
Quote
3DS   84,760
PS3   16,390
PSP   11,779
Vita   8,206
Wii   7,025
Xbox 360   1,282
PS2   1,172
DSi LL   760
DSi   516

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01./00. [3DS] Fire Emblem: Awakening # <SLG> (Nintendo) {2012.04.19} (¥4.800) - 242.600 / NEW
02./00. [3DS] Code of Princess <RPG> (Agatsuma Entertainment) {2012.04.19} (¥6.090) - 19.554 / NEW
03./03. [3DS] Super Mario 3D Land # <ACT> (Nintendo) {2011.11.03} (¥4.800) - 14.491 / 1.519.303 (-20%)
04./01. [PSP] 2nd Super Robot Wars Z: Saisei-hen <SLG> (Bandai Namco Games) {2012.04.05} (¥7.330) - 13.560 / 313.402 (-61%)
05./06. [3DS] Monster Hunter 3G # <ACT> (Capcom) {2011.12.10} (¥5.800) - 13.069 / 1.403.296 (-13%)
06./02. [3DS] Kingdom Hearts 3D -Dream Drop Distance- # <RPG> (Square Enix) {2012.03.29} (¥6.090) - 12.881 / 289.668 (-39%)
07./05. [3DS] Kid Icarus: Uprising <ACT> (Nintendo) {2012.03.22} (¥5.800) - 10.915 / 231.558 (-28%)
08./08. [3DS] Mario Kart 7 <RCE> (Nintendo) {2011.12.01} (¥4.800) - 10.892 / 1.660.759 (-11%)
09./00. [3DS] Cho-ricchi! Tamagotchi no Puchi Puchi Omisecchi <ETC> (Bandai Namco Games) {2012.04.19} (¥5.040) - 8.453 / NEW
10./00. [NDS] Detective Conan: Prelude from the Past <ADV> (Bandai Namco Games) {2012.04.19} (¥5.040) - 8.312 / NEW
11./07. [PS3] Pro Baseball Spirits 2012 <SPT> (Konami) {2012.03.29} (¥7.980) - 7.954 / 139.758 (-45%)
12./04. [PSP] Pro Baseball Spirits 2012 <SPT> (Konami) {2012.03.29} (¥5.980) - 7.833 / 111.919 (-54%)
13./09. [NDS] Pokemon Conquest <SLG> (Pokemon Co.) {2012.03.17} (¥5.800) - 6.976 / 302.950 (-33%)
14./10. [3DS] Mario & Sonic at the London 2012 Olympic Games <SPT> (Nintendo) {2012.03.01} (¥4.800) - 6.104 / 137.326 (-26%)
15./14. [WII] Wii Sports Resort with Wii Remote Plus # <SPT> (Nintendo) {2010.11.11} (¥5.800) - 4.567 / 919.259 (+8%)
16./00. [PSP] Seinaru Kana: Orichalcum no Na no Motoni # <SLG> (CyberFront) {2012.04.19} (¥6.090) - 4.406 / NEW
17./00. [PS3] The Lord of the Rings: War in the North <RPG> (Warner Entertainment Japan) {2012.04.19} (¥7.980) - 4.199 / NEW
18./00. [PSP] Detective Conan: Prelude from the Past <ADV> (Bandai Namco Games) {2012.04.19} (¥5.040) - 4.037 / NEW
19./17. [WII] Mario Kart Wii <RCE> (Nintendo) {2008.04.10} (¥5.800) - 3.967 / 3.550.906 (+13%)
20./00. [PSP] Miyako: Awayuki no Utage # <ADV> (Idea Factory) {2012.04.19} (¥6.090) - 3.824 / NEW

 :-X
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: tiesto on April 25, 2012, 01:14:00 PM
Pretty nice sales for Fire Emblem. Nice to read a chart where a game I'd actually play hits #1 best seller.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Great Rumbler on April 25, 2012, 01:27:10 PM
Everyone else might as well just give up in Japan.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on April 25, 2012, 01:50:00 PM
Japan seems very fond of just buying what everyone else is buying, the gap between number 1 and 2 is so big.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Great Rumbler on April 25, 2012, 02:06:49 PM
Quote from: Premium Lager on April 25, 2012, 01:50:00 PM
Japan seems very fond of just buying what everyone else is buying, the gap between number 1 and 2 is so big.

Nah, everyone's like that. Just wait until the new Call of Duty comes out.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: tiesto on April 25, 2012, 10:11:09 PM
Quote from: dcharlie on April 25, 2012, 08:30:12 PM
Kingdom Hearts will get a bump next week - it's been price slashed new just about everywhere, 2980 yen - 3980 yen.

Fire Emblem did very well - i've got it on standby for my trip to the UK

p.s. I'm almost certain next gen is going to bomb in Japan - Wii U will dominate.

I wouldn't mind WiiU dominating, as long as it's not handhelds or (even worse) cellphones... Such a shame all these awesome games were relegated to handhelds this past gen, I honestly hate gaming on a handheld. So uncomfortable.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Bebpo on April 25, 2012, 10:16:18 PM
Any of the J-gaffers have thoughts on why Fire Emblem did so well compared to previous FEs?

I guess I'm part of the reason since I haven't bought an FE since the GC one but I bought this one.  My reason was that the cover art was amazingly good and the graphics looked good in the trailers (like better than the console FEs) and I like good graphics.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: chronovore on April 26, 2012, 09:07:42 AM
Quote from: Billy Rygar on April 25, 2012, 01:46:48 PM
Is Detective Conan about Conan the Barbarian solving crimes?  Please don't tell me if it isn't, I couldn't take it.

http://bit.ly/sNgndj
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: chronovore on April 30, 2012, 05:16:02 PM
Quote from: Billy Rygar on April 30, 2012, 02:35:11 PM
Quote from: chronovore on April 26, 2012, 09:07:42 AM
Quote from: Billy Rygar on April 25, 2012, 01:46:48 PM
Is Detective Conan about Conan the Barbarian solving crimes?  Please don't tell me if it isn't, I couldn't take it.

http://bit.ly/sNgndj
I know how to use Google.  I just didn't want to because it was going to turn out my dream of a Conan the Barbarian murder mystery series was still never going to happen. Hate u Japan :'(

:smooch

spoiler (click to show/hide)
:japancry
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Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Momo on May 01, 2012, 06:36:18 AM
http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/169530/Over_90_of_US_mobile_game_revenue_comes_from_within_games_says_study.php?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+GamasutraNews+%28Gamasutra+News%29

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According to a new report from market research firm Newzoo, over 90 percent of revenue taken from mobile games in the U.S. is spent on in-app purchases and from within mobile games, as opposed to money spent on downloading games.


Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Bebpo on May 01, 2012, 12:08:09 PM
Isn't stuff like DD games and DLC and F2P games that make all their money on in-app purchases going to completely shroud sales figures of titles to the public?  There's so much not-reported revenue going down, it's going to get hard to know what games are successful, what games are bombs without press releases from the publishers stating either way (which are always fudged anyhow). 

RIP NPD.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: maxy on May 02, 2012, 09:07:02 AM
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Famitsu Sales: Week 18, 2012 (Apr 23 - Apr 29)

01./00. [PS3] Resident Evil: Operation Raccoon City <STG> (Capcom) {2012.04.26} (¥6.990)
02./00. [WII] Mario Party 9 <ETC> (Nintendo) {2012.04.26} (¥5.800)
03./01. [3DS] Fire Emblem: Awakening <SLG> (Nintendo) {2012.04.19} (¥4.800)
04./00. [PSV] Ciel Nosurge: Ushinawareta Hoshi e Sasagu Uta # <ADV> (Gust) {2012.04.26} (¥5.040)
05./00. [PSP] Conception: Please Give Birth to My Child!! <RPG> (Spike Chunsoft) {2012.04.26} (¥6.279)
06./00. [PSP] Steins;Gate: Hiyoku Renri no Darling # <ADV> (5pb.) {2012.04.26} (¥6.090)
07./03. [3DS] Monster Hunter 3G # <ACT> (Capcom) {2011.12.10} (¥5.800)
08./00. [3DS] Dynasty Warriors Vs. <ACT> (Koei Tecmo) {2012.04.26} (¥6.090)
09./00. [PSP] Even in a Game, Listen to Me Girls. I Am Your Father! # <ADV> (Bandai Namco Games) {2012.04.26} (¥6.280)
10./05. [3DS] Super Mario 3D Land # <ACT> (Nintendo) {2011.11.03} (¥4.800)


Even in a Game, Listen to Me Girls. I Am Your Father!
Conception: Please Give Birth to My Child!!

 :rofl
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: cool breeze on May 02, 2012, 09:15:58 AM
Conception is actually coming to North America

I'd rather get Akiba's Trip, the game where you strip boys and girls in Akihabara to expose them as vampires.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Momo on May 02, 2012, 09:17:59 AM
01./00. [PS3] Resident Evil: Operation Raccoon City

no. no. no. no.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Tasty on May 02, 2012, 09:38:32 AM
They buy that and not Revelations. :fbm Taste just as bad as Americans unfortunately.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: maxy on May 02, 2012, 10:26:32 AM
Quote from: Andrex on May 02, 2012, 09:38:32 AM
They buy that and not Revelations. :fbm Taste just as bad as Americans unfortunately.

I don't think this has much to do with the taste.

The problem is that Resident Evil fanbase is on PS360 and those people don't give much shit about 3DS.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: maxy on May 02, 2012, 10:56:39 AM
Or maybe people are starved for anything Resident Evil.Taste is not important to starving people.

Or maybe Resident Evil shit just smells better on HD consoles.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Mr. Gundam on May 02, 2012, 11:40:13 AM
If 250k+ bought that POS, Reisdent Evil 6 should do really well in the Fall.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: maxy on May 02, 2012, 11:42:03 AM
hmm

yeah,checkmate


Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Mr. Gundam on May 02, 2012, 11:44:20 AM
People just want console RE games, regardless of quality.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Mr. Gundam on May 02, 2012, 11:48:18 AM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on May 02, 2012, 11:44:33 AM
Be funny if RE6 did worse.

btw, looks like the gamers are already pretty happy with their ORCs, game's got a 42/100 rating on mk2.

The Amazon JP customer reviews should be great. Time to check 'em out.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: maxy on May 02, 2012, 12:08:28 PM
Not sure why people are so shocked about ORC sales,it has guns and Resident Evil/Capcom in its title.What else do you want?

I like when things like this happen because they show two things

1.People will buy almost anything for their beloved franchises,regardless of quality.
2.You can't really make people buy things that don't interest them,regardless of quality.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Momo on May 02, 2012, 12:39:30 PM
Quote from: Mr. Gundam on May 02, 2012, 11:40:13 AM
If 250k+ bought that POS, Reisdent Evil 6 should do really well in the Fall.
Unless this satisfies their itch for RE and/or sours them on RE
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: maxy on May 02, 2012, 01:00:12 PM
It sold well in the West too,goofy

Seems like whole world is buying it for some reason.

Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Tasty on May 02, 2012, 01:20:35 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on May 02, 2012, 12:52:58 PM
ah yes, guns, japanese are known for going goofy for guns

you fucking moron

:lol Best laugh I had in a while.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Takao on May 02, 2012, 02:08:03 PM
How bad is that Dynasty Warriors game? I don't know how this could happen:

[PSV] Dynasty Warriors Next <ACT> (Koei Tecmo) {2011.12.17} (¥6.090) - 29.181 / NEW
[3DS] Dynasty Warriors Vs. <ACT> (Koei Tecmo) {2012.04.26} (¥6.090) - 15.578 / NEW

(Obviously Next has being a proven launch game going for it, but Vs. has the gigantic userbase on Vita)

I thought Vs. was actually going to do well. It had those Zelda, and Metroid (okay, that's a non-issue in Japan) crossovers, and looked like a Dynasty Warriors game. Then again, every 3D non-animu Dynasty Warriors game looks the same to me. Was this one more like Multiraid/ Strikeforce?
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on May 02, 2012, 04:12:33 PM
RE:ORC is gonna hurt RE6 sales.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on May 02, 2012, 05:12:44 PM
Good launch sales happen regardless of taste, peoples.  Its when the stank sets in that you'll notice a massive sales drop in the following weeks.
And yeah, Revelations goes to prove its not exactly what people want to play on a portable.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Bebpo on May 02, 2012, 06:12:47 PM
Quote from: maxy on May 02, 2012, 10:26:32 AM
Quote from: Andrex on May 02, 2012, 09:38:32 AM
They buy that and not Revelations. :fbm Taste just as bad as Americans unfortunately.

I don't think this has much to do with the taste.

The problem is that Resident Evil fanbase is on PS360 and those people don't give much shit about 3DS.

The problem is that Capcom advertised ORC as the next HD PS360 must have RE title and 90% of game buyers who don't lurk internet forums don't know that the game is an outsourced PoS.

This will hurt the brand for sure.  Or hey, maybe J6P gamers will like ORC?  It's not like they don't already buy and play other bad games.  Their bar for what makes a good game is a lot lower than the refined gaming tastes of EB.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Bebpo on May 02, 2012, 10:34:35 PM
But really, how many people will know it's a western developed game?  The 3% of Japanese gamers who frequent 2ch and mk2?
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Bebpo on May 02, 2012, 11:10:37 PM
How come that doesn't work in America w/gaf?
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Trent Dole on May 03, 2012, 12:42:20 AM
Quote from: Bebpo on May 02, 2012, 11:10:37 PM
How come that doesn't work in America w/gaf?
Because 4chan is the US version of 2ch?
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Huff on May 03, 2012, 01:39:35 AM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on May 02, 2012, 10:54:27 PM
Who perpetrates the yoge kusoge meme?  Yep, the 3% of Japanese gamers who frequent 2ch and mk2.

Is it a dumb question to ask what the yoge kusoge meme is?
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Trent Dole on May 03, 2012, 01:41:47 AM
'western games(yoge) shit games(kusoge)' basically.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Takao on May 03, 2012, 01:42:07 AM
Just based on context it seems like it's a mentality that if it is made in the west it's obviously crap.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Momo on May 03, 2012, 01:43:50 AM
Quote from: Huff on May 03, 2012, 01:39:35 AM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on May 02, 2012, 10:54:27 PM
Who perpetrates the yoge kusoge meme?  Yep, the 3% of Japanese gamers who frequent 2ch and mk2.

Is it a dumb question to ask what the yoge kusoge meme is?
It means shit western games
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Bebpo on May 03, 2012, 02:26:23 AM
Quote from: Takao on May 03, 2012, 01:42:07 AM
Just based on context it seems like it's a mentality that if it is made in the west it's obviously crap.

Yeah, this.  It's the Xenophiles on 2ch representing.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on May 03, 2012, 03:36:40 AM
Its prob just a reaction to the Western "Japan is dead" trend, much like anything in Japanese gaming is a response to the west...

 :teehee
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: maxy on May 03, 2012, 07:02:25 AM
You people won't be laughing when some future COD sells one million in Japan. :pimp

As for the Western "Japan is dead" trend,that is real and growing among gaming population.Not sure if it can be fixed anymore...


One potential solution,moving  to Canada

http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/169641/Ubisoft_investing_505M_to_build_up_Toronto_studio_.php (http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/169641/Ubisoft_investing_505M_to_build_up_Toronto_studio_.php)
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Ubisoft wants to replicate the success of its Montreal branch with its Toronto studio, and it plans to invest $500 million CAD ($505 million) and quadruple the office's headcount to 800+ employees to get there.

The Montreal branch, which the publisher is using as a model for the Toronto arm, is one of the largest game studios in the world with some 2,100 employees. It's also responsible for the Assassin's Creed and Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell series.

Founded in 2009, the Toronto studio is working on the next Splinter Cell game. Right now it has around 210 programmers and designers, but it intends to expand the team to more than 800 over the next ten years, according to a report from Canadian business newspaper Financial Post.

Similar to how Ubisoft brought in veterans from its Parisian headquarters to help set up the Montreal office 15 years ago, the company has moved a number of Montreal workers to Toronto -- including managing director Jade Raymond -- to make sure the studio is filled with veteran talent that can mentor younger employees.

"We are, in a way, applying the same recipe," said Ubisoft Montreal CEO Yannis Mallat. "We've been sending over experienced, senior people from Ubisoft Montreal as a guarantee that they immediately get traction and speed and knowledge in place so that they can recruit the best people. You can't hope to have a studio up and running in one year by just hiring junior people."

Ubisoft is receiving a lot of help from Ontario's government to build this studio in the province's capital, as the publisher was promised $263 million CAD ($266 million) over the course of ten years to set up the Toronto branch in 2009. The company's also able to take advantage of local tax credits to save on labor costs.

Many other big publishers and developers have branches in Toronto, including Zynga, Rockstar, Disney Interactive Studios, and Capcom. The city is also home to indie studios like Capybara Games and DrinkBox Studios.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on May 03, 2012, 08:22:21 AM
Id move there for work if I had the chance.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Takao on May 03, 2012, 09:33:49 AM
I live in Toronto.

But has no programming experience, can't draw to save his life, has no music skills, nor a business background.  :fbm
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: cool breeze on May 03, 2012, 09:43:02 AM
Canada is a ballin video game development land mass these days. 

Eidos Montreal :bow2
Patrice Désilets at THQ Montreal :bow2 (until THQ inevitably screws up)
Silicon Knights... :cancry
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Takao on May 03, 2012, 09:47:45 AM
Slant Six is Canadian.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Flannel Boy on May 03, 2012, 09:54:43 AM
Quote from: Takao on May 03, 2012, 09:33:49 AM
I live in Toronto.

But has no programming experience, can't draw to save his life, has no music skills, nor a business background.  :fbm

*hi-five

Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Tasty on May 03, 2012, 10:18:33 AM
Quote from: Takao on May 03, 2012, 09:33:49 AM
I live in Toronto.

But has no programming experience, can't draw to save his life, has no music skills, nor a business background.  :fbm
Quote from: Takao on May 03, 2012, 09:47:45 AM
Slant Six is Canadian.

You could probably get a job there.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Takao on May 03, 2012, 11:56:19 AM
Quote from: Andrex on May 03, 2012, 10:18:33 AM
Quote from: Takao on May 03, 2012, 09:33:49 AM
I live in Toronto.

But has no programming experience, can't draw to save his life, has no music skills, nor a business background.  :fbm
Quote from: Takao on May 03, 2012, 09:47:45 AM
Slant Six is Canadian.

You could probably get a job there.

Other side of the country I'm afraid.

edit: I know no one cares but I noticed recently that New Little King's Story on Vita outsold LKS on Wii's LTD in its first week (LKS number from Famitsu versus Media Create for NLKS)

[WII] Little King's Story (Marvelous Entertainment) - 6,426
[VITA] New Little King's Story (Konami) - 7,141

Evidently there's about 600 more people who wanted to play LKS with generic anime designs.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Tasty on May 03, 2012, 12:09:19 PM
It dumbfounds me it even got a sequel with sales that bad.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Takao on May 03, 2012, 12:16:33 PM
It seems more like a reboot than a sequel.

Konami's done some weird shit recently. They rebooted X-Blades as Blades of Time, grabbed Ninety-Nine Nights II and some other stuff no one asked for.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: originalz on May 03, 2012, 11:51:45 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on May 03, 2012, 11:05:44 AM
Quote from: Premium Lager on May 03, 2012, 03:36:40 AM
Its prob just a reaction to the Western "Japan is dead" trend, much like anything in Japanese gaming is a response to the west...

 :teehee

No, it's an old-ass meme, predating the internet, and it kind of has its roots in fact, if you think about it.  Think back to the NES era, or even the SNES era.  Now, consider *only* console games (because Japan was using completely different computers at the time, they didn't have access to most of the great Western PC games of those eras).  Western gaming doesn't look too good from that angle. 

The problem is that the meme, like every fucking meme ever, is a product of its time/place and only its time/place.  It needs to be retired badly and it slowly is going out thanks to the high quality of Western games on consoles these days.  Stuff like ORC that is high profile, complete dogshit, and can directly be compared to Japanese installments, though... it doesn't help.

It also didn't help that during the good old days, most western games had horrendous translations or were simply not translated, maybe with a translation card in the manual if you were lucky.  Combine that with games which were usually inferior to Japanese-produced ones, and it's not hard to see how that meme became commonplace.

Western devs didn't care about Japan, although oddly enough the PC RPGs like Ultima and Wizardry were pretty popular.  Even those had iffy translations but at least some sort of effort was made.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on May 03, 2012, 11:55:57 PM
Quote from: Takao on May 03, 2012, 01:42:07 AM
Just based on context it seems like it's a mentality that if it is made in the west it's obviously crap.

Sounds like most westaboos I come across on the internet, including here in regards to games from the east.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Trent Dole on May 03, 2012, 11:58:51 PM
I like games that aren't complete shit regardless of where they're from.  :usacry :interracial :japancry
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: The Sceneman on May 04, 2012, 05:00:05 AM
yeah at the end of the day who gives a shit where a game was made. Good game is good game

Yakuza - good game

Bionic Commando 2009 - good game

Castlevania - good game

Gears of War - good game
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Mr. Gundam on May 04, 2012, 01:32:20 PM
I play more Japanese games, but I've still played tons of fantastic Western developed titles this generation.

And HELL YEAH to Bionic Commando 2009. :rock
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: The Sceneman on May 04, 2012, 09:22:49 PM
Quote from: Mr. Gundam on May 04, 2012, 01:32:20 PM
I play more Japanese games, but I've still played tons of fantastic Western developed titles this generation.

And HELL YEAH to Bionic Commando 2009. :rock

GOTY 2009, I wear my 1000/1000 as a badge of honor

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7fsAEvHcKAw
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Stoney Mason on May 07, 2012, 05:50:25 PM
EA revenue

(http://i.imgur.com/UrjZn.png)


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Selected Operating Highlights and Metrics:

*On a non-GAAP basis
Strong results driven by the successful launches of Mass Effect™ 3, FIFA Street 4, SSX™ and Kingdoms of Amalur: Reckoning™.
FIFA 12 established the best year in franchise history - with downloads and micro-transactions totaling $108 million*. FIFA Ultimate Team — a pure digital companion to recent FIFA titles was the second best-selling EA offering in the UK in fiscal 12.
Battlefield 3™ had a record year, establishing itself as one of EA's premier game services and in the process successfully took share in the growing First-Person-Shooter market.
Battlefield 3 players are still deeply engaged — 6.3 million MAUs in March. New content downloads available in May and June.
Q4 full-game downloads were up 76 percent* year-over-year, contributing $60 million* in the quarter, driven in part by Mass Effect 3 and STAR WARS®: The Old Republic™.
STAR WARS®: The Old Republic™ active subscribers are 1.3 million. Two new content packs — Legacy and Allies, available in Q1.
EA's Play4Free brands are generating an average of nearly $2 million* per week. Several more EA brands will be introduced in the Play4Free portal in fiscal 13.
EA shattered its goal for digital revenue growth — generating more than $1.2 billion* in fiscal 12 for a 47 percent year-over-year growth, and driving operating margin to 10%. Another 40 percent increase in digital non-GAAP revenue and continued operating margin expansion is forecasted for fiscal 13.
EA's Origin™ platform for games and services has registered 11 million players and generated approximately $150 million* in just ten months. EA's Nucleus database has registered 220 million consumers.
Casual game leader PopCap™ — acquired by EA in August — is growing on mobile and social platforms with new games like Solitaire Blitz™ and Lucky Gem Casino™. A new version of Bejeweled™ is EA's top grossing game on the Apple® App StoreSM.
EA repurchased 27.7 million shares for $529 million through March 31, 2012, and as of the call, the $600 million share repurchase program has been completed.
In fiscal 13, EA will invest $80 million in development of games for Gen4 console systems.
Mass Effect 3 Sales Exceed $200 Million at Retail
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Post by: Joe Molotov on May 07, 2012, 05:55:49 PM
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Post by: Takao on May 07, 2012, 07:03:28 PM
Wat at their Sony handheld vs. Nintendo handheld project sales. Did SCEA moneyhat all the sports games or something?

Edit: Wat, they project PS2 to sell more games for them than Nintendo handhelds in the third quarter? PS2?! I know South America, and India are developing markets where PS2 is still young, but come on...
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Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on May 07, 2012, 08:21:34 PM
Yes they money hatted FIFA I think starting this year
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Post by: Eel O'Brian on May 07, 2012, 09:14:16 PM
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Let's Dress Up My Magical Fucking Horse Again


 :lol
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Post by: HyperZoneWasAwesome on May 08, 2012, 05:06:43 AM
holy crap, did a Dynasty Warriors 3DS game put up one fiddy K?
cause that's what it sounded like, which actually sounds pretty damn good for a copy-paste super-niche cash grab.
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Post by: archnemesis on May 08, 2012, 05:28:51 AM
Samurai Warriors: Chronicles did almost 150k. I don't know if Dynasty Warriors VS has been released yet. It was supposed to be released in April according to Wikipedia, but I haven't seen any numbers for it yet.

Edit: Oh, it opened at "[3DS] Dynasty Warriors VS (Tecmo Koei, 04.26.2012): 15,578". I guess that's what dcharlie is referring to.
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Post by: originalz on May 09, 2012, 05:04:07 AM
DW VS is such a pointless release that it deserves to bomb, especially after SWC which was an amazing game.  Hopefully it'll result in Koei putting more effort into their next release.
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Post by: Tasty on May 09, 2012, 11:14:30 AM
3DS 91,868
PS3 23,478
PSP 20,033
WII 15,789
PSV 10,583
NDS 1,911
PS2 1,611
360 1,420

01./02. [WII] Mario Party 9 (Nintendo) - 144,585 / 297,468 (-5%)
02./01. [PS3] Resident Evil: Operation Raccoon City (Capcom) - 52,428 / 304,953 (-79%)
03./03. [3DS] Fire Emblem: Awakening (Nintendo) - 42,347 / 345,260 (-30%)
04./09. [3DS] Super Mario Land 3D (Nintendo) - 28,528 / 1,563,527 (+82%)
05./14. [3DS] Mario Kart 7 (Nintendo) - 22,881 / 1,695,305 (+96%)
06./15. [3DS] Kid Icarus: Uprising (Nintendo) - 18,788 / 261,883 (+63%)
07./11. [3DS] Monster Hunter 3 G (Capcom) - 16,496 / 1,433,370 (+21%)
08./21. [3DS] Mario & Sonic at the London 2012 Olympic Games (Nintendo) - 13,810 / 157,337
09./05. [PSP] Conception: Please Have My Children! (Spike) - 10,193 / 40,039 (-66%)
10./20. [WII] Wii Sports Resort (w/ Wii Remote+) (Nintendo) - 10,058 / 935,555 (+61%)
11./18. [PSP] Pro Yakyuu Spirits 2012 (Konami) - 9,843 / 128,409 (+48%)
12./16. [3DS] Kingdom Hearts 3D: Dream Drop Distance (Square Enix) - 9,532 / 308,484 (+3%)
13./22. [NDS] Pokemon + Nobunaga no Yabou (Pokemon Co.) - 9,069 / 318,067
14./10. [3DS] Shin Sangoku Musou VS (Koei-Tecmo) - 8,614 / 24,192 (-45%)
15./23. [WII] Wii Party (Nintendo) - 8,503 / 2,345,476
16./19. [PS3] Pro Yakyuu Spirits 2012 (Konami) - 6,853 / 152,934 (+8%)
17./29. [WII] Mario Kart Wii (Nintendo) - 6,783 / 3,561,199
18./17. [PSP] Dai-2-Ji Super Robot Taisen Z Saisei-hen (Namco Bandai) - 6,546 / 328,432 (-23%)
19./27. [3DS] Harvest Moon: The Land of Origin (Marvelous) - 6,408 / 179,148
20./32. [WII] Go Vacation (Namco Bandai) - 6,002 / 271,087
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Momo on May 09, 2012, 11:50:07 AM
re:orc
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Post by: Owl-faced Wizard on May 09, 2012, 11:53:13 AM
So Vita is down during Golden Week.
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Post by: Tasty on May 09, 2012, 11:59:35 AM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on May 09, 2012, 11:53:22 AM
vita dropped during golden week.

hunh.

So is that good or bad? ??? Err, slightly bad or really bad?
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Post by: Owl-faced Wizard on May 09, 2012, 12:00:28 PM
Haha.  Is this the line for schadenfreude?
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Post by: Momo on May 09, 2012, 12:08:08 PM
Quote from: Andrex on May 09, 2012, 11:59:35 AM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on May 09, 2012, 11:53:22 AM
vita dropped during golden week.

hunh.

So is that good or bad? ??? Err, slightly bad or really bad?
Bad? I take it you don't know what golden week is?
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Post by: Momo on May 09, 2012, 12:14:27 PM
Only gold plated, Japan cant afford the solid gold stuff in this economy
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Post by: Tasty on May 09, 2012, 12:16:01 PM
Isnt GW like Easter? But why would you buy games on Easter?
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Post by: frod on May 09, 2012, 12:19:14 PM
But how can that be? I was told it had the best launch lineup in the history of videogaming, dammit!
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Post by: Momo on May 09, 2012, 12:20:42 PM
Quote from: Andrex on May 09, 2012, 12:16:01 PM
IsntcGW like Easter?
Not so much, it's a week that you have like 4 days off.
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Post by: Tasty on May 09, 2012, 12:50:00 PM
Quote from: frod on May 09, 2012, 12:19:14 PM
But how can that be? I was told it had the best launch lineup in the history of videogaming, dammit!

This is why launch lineups now and for the end of time mean crap. Give me two worthwhile games at launch and space the rest over the next six-eight months when there is always the post-launch desert and I'll be happy.

Of course it would be nice to have both, but I'd take well timed releases over best launch ever.

Of course I've sealed my fate since apparently Wii U's launch is going to be awesome but whatevs.

Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on May 09, 2012, 12:24:53 PM
Quote from: Andrex on May 09, 2012, 12:16:01 PM
Isnt GW like Easter? But why would you buy games on Easter?

Golden Week is a week where three holidays are near each other, and it often works out to an entire week off (not this year, though).  The kids are home, families are taking road trips to visit other places, and shops run probably some of the best sales of the year (I saw 3G Vitas going for 18,500 yen at one shop, for example).  It's "Golden" because shops rack up some of the best sales of the year during the week.  Of course, games being toys, the Xmas/New Year's combo usually outdoes it, but GW is still probably the best sales period of the year outside of that.

But is there a fat man in red or a giant killer rabbit handing out the toys? That's what I wanna know.
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Post by: Eel O'Brian on May 09, 2012, 12:52:00 PM
Yeah, if they don't drop the price soon, as in before late Fall, then they can go ahead and wrap it up. With all the other crazy deals on systems and games  I would imagine will be happening this year around the holiday season, any price cut then won't give them much in the way of forward momentum. They need to start generating some interest now, before the Fall swarm. 

It's just too fucking expensive for what it is, and even though I think it's the best piece of handheld gaming hardware ever made I have been saying that since the beginning. $199 + 4GB + DLC code for a game would be a smart thing to do. I can't believe they have lost every single bit of the good will they generated when it was announced.

No, wait, it's Sony, I can totally believe it.

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Post by: Owl-faced Wizard on May 09, 2012, 12:55:22 PM
Price cut means jack without games people want to buy a system for.
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Post by: Eel O'Brian on May 09, 2012, 01:00:20 PM
They do have some good games out, though, and if people didn't have to spend a minimum of $300 to play just one of those games I think they might be more inclined to buy it



Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Tasty on May 09, 2012, 01:09:18 PM
What would happen if the Vita was sub-5k for a few weeks? What would be the reaction from Sony, gamers, and the press?
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Post by: Tasty on May 09, 2012, 01:19:41 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on May 09, 2012, 01:12:50 PM
Depends on why, I suppose.  But at this point, 10k is no different from 8k is no different from 5k.  None of them are acceptable numbers for a healthy system.

But what if... it was 0k? :O
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Post by: maxy on May 09, 2012, 01:32:43 PM
Not even 360 managed to do that,so Vita should be pretty safe in that regard.
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Post by: Owl-faced Wizard on May 09, 2012, 01:39:56 PM
I'm starting to think Vita is some kind of scam on the part of Sony.  Like they set it up to fail, cook the books, and flee to Brazil with what they skimmed off the top of the investor's money.
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Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on May 09, 2012, 03:38:14 PM
Quote from: Andrex on May 09, 2012, 11:59:35 AM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on May 09, 2012, 11:53:22 AM
vita dropped during golden week.

hunh.

So is that good or bad? ??? Err, slightly bad or really bad?

This is a bad concern troll.

I think the Vita is beyond saving and dropping the price won't change the fact that there is a lack of heavy hitters that will cause people to buy Vitas en masse.  I guess I should wait to say that until E3 but let's be honest here.  I wouldn't doubt that Sony has already written off the Vita already and is thinking of an intelligent way to shed it without looking terrible by doing it.
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Post by: Tasty on May 09, 2012, 03:54:02 PM
Quote from: The Experiment on May 09, 2012, 03:38:14 PM
Quote from: Andrex on May 09, 2012, 11:59:35 AM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on May 09, 2012, 11:53:22 AM
vita dropped during golden week.

hunh.

So is that good or bad? ??? Err, slightly bad or really bad?

This is a bad concern troll.

I think the Vita is beyond saving and dropping the price won't change the fact that there is a lack of heavy hitters that will cause people to buy Vitas en masse.  I guess I should wait to say that until E3 but let's be honest here.  I wouldn't doubt that Sony has already written off the Vita already and is thinking of an intelligent way to shed it without looking terrible by doing it.

No hope there.

Maaaayybe they could spin it as being better for first party dev if they only have to focus on one platform.
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Post by: Tasty on May 09, 2012, 05:38:46 PM
Quote from: Borys on May 09, 2012, 04:24:27 PM
10k was just a psychological barrier. Next one is 5k I guess and then 10k per month (which will never happen). Vita won't get as low as 5k/ week as well.

Never say never!
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Post by: Trent Dole on May 09, 2012, 08:43:24 PM
Didn't it already do 5k one week? :teehee
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Post by: EmCeeGrammar on May 09, 2012, 09:05:01 PM
I personally assess that the Vita is already finished.  These sales are what being irrelevant looks like.  It bombed, it can barely move software, nothing on the horizon.  Its performing like the Wii in japan after it had exhausted itself 4 years on the market.  In that regard its not even interesting to me anymore, other than the petty denial from its defendeers.  I think we should avert our gloom to the 3ds in other territories as I still think there is a discussion to be had there about its prospects. 
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Post by: Owl-faced Wizard on May 09, 2012, 09:19:46 PM
Yup, 3DS needs something major in the west.  Doing trivially better than the wii is a joke for a recent system.  I don't know what can turn it around.  Hardware revision plus some sort of unforseen software hit is all I can think of.
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Post by: EmCeeGrammar on May 09, 2012, 09:37:01 PM
Like I understand why Gamefreak isnt ready for 3ds development and thats why BW2 are happening, but not having a pokemon game coming out soon means the 3ds is a mario machine atm.  Mario is popular, but he's not going to carry it by himself in America.

edit: I dunno how Animal Crossing does in other territories. I was under the impression Animal Crossing Wild World only sold ok in america.
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Post by: Tasty on May 09, 2012, 09:50:53 PM
If the first game is anything to go by, Luigi's Mansion 2 *might* by some goodwill and time for 3DS in America at least.

But yeah, 5th Cell needs to make another Scribblenauts-like hit for it and Nintendo needs something on the level of Brain Age and Nintendogs for the DS. Those (and NSMB, of course) are what really made the DS in America.
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Post by: EmCeeGrammar on May 09, 2012, 10:30:27 PM
The thing is I still consider Luigi a part of the Mario thang that the 3ds has enough of at this point.  For reference, there will be a point where the 3ds has paper mario, luigi's mansion, super mario 3d land, new super mario bros 2, mario kart ds, and mario vs sonic olympics, and mario tennis all available.  It just seems like such a crutch at this point when they should be aiming to bring in all types of audiences.  Not everyone loves Mario.
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Post by: EmCeeGrammar on May 09, 2012, 10:46:23 PM
Something about the business model is going to have to fundamentally change to get software moving in higher volumes again (in reference to portables- maybe consoles too).  I hear about how such and such games sold a lot of their respectable units at a discount price.  To me, this is encouraging actually.  It would seem to imply that if you could, oh I dunno, have fiscally responsible development budgets a publisher would be able to sell their games at lower impulse prices and enjoy long legs on many titles over a longer period of time.  That sounds sustainable and healthy to me.  Whats not encouraging is the reality of how publishers act.  I guess it was a ballooning of expectations that took place during the ps2 era and now they're still trying to find a way to hit those highs by throwing more money at the problem.

I'm not sure how low they can go on 3ds software in particular, but its not 30-40 dollars for Shinobi or whathaveyou.
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Post by: Tasty on May 09, 2012, 10:59:11 PM
Retail games on eShop is a good start I think. Might get people buying more, less barrier to entry.

Of course, that won't be reported by NPD so it might not help other dev's perceptions unless Nintendo is highly public about things.
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Post by: Tasty on May 09, 2012, 11:18:36 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on May 09, 2012, 11:03:26 PM
a lot of devs don't have access to NPD numbers, actually, haha

I've been the source for more than a few developers wanting to find out the NPD numbers on their own games

Well, moreso publishers then. They're the ones funding and dictating which games get made anyways.
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Post by: maxy on May 10, 2012, 02:24:57 AM
(http://www.sony.net/SonyInfo/IR/financial/fr/viewer/11q4/slide/image/16_image.jpg)

Smart Phones are portable entertainment hardware too
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Post by: Tasty on May 10, 2012, 02:37:24 AM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on May 10, 2012, 12:07:18 AM
That's true, but they don't usually make those decisions based on NPD data.  Particularly Japanese publishers.  As for Western publishers, I wouldn't expect anything more on the 3DS than there was on the DS.

I understand, but that's still based on publishers (I was talking about western devs when I mentioned the NPD.) If a publisher doesn't want smaller devs like 5th Cell or Renegade Kid to make a game for 3DS they wanna make, it isn't going to happen unless those devs skip publishers altogether and go to the eShop (as RK seems to be increasingly gravitating towards.) Maybe that's what prompted the whole "retail on eShop" thing, who knows.
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Post by: Cerveza mas fina on May 10, 2012, 03:33:17 AM
They should have had GT ready for Vita launch, a real GT. GT is still Sony's best selling franchise.

On another note Diablo 3 is now Blizzards most pre-ordered game :rock
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Post by: maxy on May 10, 2012, 03:41:02 AM
Nintendo better do something fast for 3DS in the West cuz it looks like even toasters will come with a tablet(portable screen).Dedicated handhels might end much sooner than people think.
If(when) tablets break into kids(parents) market,Nintendo can just pack and go home.

Gloomy,yeah but I don't think there is any long term solution except to join the pack.

 :gloomy
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Post by: Cerveza mas fina on May 10, 2012, 04:59:55 AM
My friend is a teacher and 5 year olds are bringing iPads to school already, rich folks but still things will only get cheaper.
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Post by: frod on May 10, 2012, 05:42:46 AM
I don't really see tablets are any more of an issue than Playstations, Xbox, or Smartphones. iPhone is five years old this year and yet the 3DS is selling very well still.
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Post by: archnemesis on May 10, 2012, 06:44:07 AM
The most impressive iPad games I've seen so far are really old ports of shoot 'em ups, like Espgaluda II, and a Gameloft port of the excellent strategy game The Settlers. Until the platform get more high quality exclusives I think the other consoles and handhelds will do fine.
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Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on May 10, 2012, 09:15:43 AM
I can't stand touch screen gaming and have had only a couple of decent experiences with it.  Better to get burned with a 99 cent game than a $40 3DS game though.
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Post by: EmCeeGrammar on May 10, 2012, 09:41:04 AM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on May 10, 2012, 09:16:02 AM
Quote from: Borys on May 10, 2012, 06:05:47 AM
(http://pocketfullofapps.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/i-GgW57X4-L.jpg)

On topic.

Sure.  I have an iPhone, though, and y'know, I'll take a lot of $40 3DS/DS/PSP games over 40 of some of the more popular iOS games.  I'm not saying there aren't any great, deep games on there, because there are, particularly in certain genres.  But without buttons, I'm sorry, some genres you're just doing the latest version of the Wiitard Waggle.

And that's not even touching on how the shift to IAP models are completely fucking up the designs on most iOS games these days.

Omg this.  So much this.  I'm almost scared to download stuff cus I don't know how much of the game design is compromised by this bullshit. 
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Post by: magus on May 10, 2012, 09:47:15 AM
one free-to-play browser game i kinda liked at first has dungeons that last 2 hours

but for only 2 cent you can save your game! isn't that usefull and cheap?
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Post by: cool breeze on May 10, 2012, 10:00:17 AM
yeah, the IAP stuff is awful.  The higher profile games like Infinity Blade have it too.  They just make the grind slower to force your hand.  Instead I just stop playing and move onto something else.

that said, $40 is too much for most 3DS and Vita games.  That's without including the $50 tier Uncharted and Resident Evil (tried to) make.
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Post by: Eel O'Brian on May 10, 2012, 10:25:23 AM
When I had an iPad I bought a lot of .99 games and played them for, like, five minutes, never to touch them again. The iOS game library is much better now, for sure, but I'd imagine the vast majority are still those disposable types of games where you play for five minutes and forget you ever bought it.  I think there can be a "happy" medium in pricing with dedicated handheld games, and there needs to be a larger focus on the $10 and under games. Games which offer a bit more depth than the average tablet or phone game, but don't require as much of an initial investment while still offering proper controls suited to the game type. For instance, Uncharted: Golden Abyss could have been a 3-4 hour $8-15 "side story" type game instead of a full-blown console experience. You'd still get a nice chunk of pretty graphics and story, but for much better value. It's just not a $40-50 handheld game world anymore (with a few exceptions, of course).
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Tasty on May 10, 2012, 10:34:44 AM
Vita's sales don't seem so bad to me. *shrugs* I was hoping for worse.
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Post by: Takao on May 10, 2012, 10:54:32 AM
Those Vita sales are pretty terrible. I have no clue as to how Hirai thinks it's sane to put a 16 million unit estimate for PSP+Vita unless they plan on bundling them with PS3s or something.
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Post by: maxy on May 10, 2012, 11:02:38 AM
UK:
April, 2012 - Software Market Share By Format (Units) - 2,015,355

1 1 [360] 36.7% (739,635)
2 2 [PS3] 22.9% (461,516)
3 4 [WII] 12.9% (259,981)
4 5 [NDS] 10.4% (209,597)
5 3 [PCD] 10.2% (205,566)
6 6 [3DS] 4.7% (94,722)
7 7 [PSV] 1.5% (30,230)
8 8 [PSP] 0.9% (18,138)
9 9 [PS2] 0.1% (2,015)
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Post by: Takao on May 10, 2012, 11:06:49 AM
That software share actually is better than I'd have expected. It's practically nothing, but Sony can only go up from 1.5%, right? :(
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Post by: archie4208 on May 10, 2012, 11:09:05 AM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on May 10, 2012, 10:07:59 AM
Yeah.  A balance would be nice.  Unfortunately, this IAP model works out really well for the game companies, so I actually expect things to move towards it rather than away from it.

As a concrete example:  Team Fortress 2's revenue increased twelvefold after going F2P (http://gamasutra.com/view/news/164922/GDC_2012_How_Valve_made_Team_Fortress_2_freetoplay.php).  (Of course you could argue that a 4 year old game won't be generating much revenue in the first place, but still an increase nonetheless).

F2P multiplayer games will be the norm, outside of monstrous titles such as Call of Duty, in a few years.
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Post by: maxy on May 10, 2012, 02:05:12 PM
http://www.capcom.co.jp/ir/english/business/million.html

Quote
Resident Evil Operation Raccoon City: 1,700,000 (NA+EU only)
Monster Hunter 3 (Tri) G: 1,600,000 (Japan only)
Street Fighter X Tekken: 1,400,000


Bad taste peopleTM

 :D hehe
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Post by: Tasty on May 10, 2012, 02:46:11 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on May 10, 2012, 02:15:54 PM
Either ORC sold a shit-ton in Europe or Capcom really, really overshipped it.  NA only accounts for about 600k of sales.

Holy beezy.
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Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on May 10, 2012, 06:33:54 PM
(http://images.eurogamer.net/2012/articles//a/1/4/8/2/1/5/0/aprilnpdchart.jpg)

another month no 3ds in teh top 10 while Vita goes on its second month :)
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Post by: Huff on May 10, 2012, 06:34:36 PM
bet all the numbers are horrible
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Post by: EmCeeGrammar on May 10, 2012, 07:04:39 PM
I think someone at gaf calculated that Prototype 2 can't be above 232k.  That's real shitty. 
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Post by: EmCeeGrammar on May 10, 2012, 07:09:42 PM
So, generational fatigue or long lasting comeuppance coming to fruition?
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Post by: Huff on May 10, 2012, 07:17:13 PM
It's not like there were any big hitters last month, there should be an upswing may
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Post by: tiesto on May 10, 2012, 08:01:38 PM
Wait, where is Xenoblade? I thought that game charged this month :gloomy
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Post by: pilonv1 on May 10, 2012, 08:08:54 PM
Retailer exclusive
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Post by: Takao on May 10, 2012, 08:28:00 PM
Quote from: pilonv1 on May 10, 2012, 08:08:54 PM
Retailer exclusive

I'm fairly certain NPD tracks Gamestop. The game likely just didn't sell amazingly well.
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Post by: Takao on May 10, 2012, 08:58:00 PM
Prototype 2 sold like a third of what the first one did. It didn't really do well, and only placed first because it was a new game in a dead month.
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Post by: Owl-faced Wizard on May 10, 2012, 09:55:31 PM
creamsugar said Vita hardware sold less than Kid Icarus.  I don't know if that's good or bad but it sounds bad.
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Post by: Great Rumbler on May 10, 2012, 10:05:10 PM
It sold 220,000 according to VGChartz. :teehee
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Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on May 10, 2012, 10:06:16 PM
Maybe it's time I leak who creamsugar is to protect Sony? :)
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Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on May 10, 2012, 10:09:16 PM
It's not like GAF is well secured any one with a brian could run a few db checks and get everyones password ip and e-mail  ???
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Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on May 10, 2012, 10:12:36 PM
because some of hte mods that had their psn hacked and was on the list were stupid enough to use the same password as their e-mail and I have it rerouting to another e-mail address so i can take their password and get into the admin panel  ???






















i wish i was that smart :fbm
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Post by: pilonv1 on May 10, 2012, 10:18:16 PM
smh methodis
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Post by: recursivelyenumerable on May 10, 2012, 10:26:03 PM
I sold a billion copies of myself today
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Post by: Damian79 on May 10, 2012, 10:26:26 PM
Quote
Acclaimed Wii RPG Xenoblade Chronicles was a retailer exclusive, so is excluded from NPD's monthly report.

:lol retailer exclusivity.
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Post by: Damian79 on May 10, 2012, 10:44:11 PM
Quote from: Borys on May 10, 2012, 09:28:58 AM

WORLDWIDE LTD VITA SALES

1 800 000 units

Not good, right?

It isnt 3ds levels but it is still good.  The 3ds has sold like 4.5 million in the last year.

EDIT: Wait the 3ds number is just in the US?

http://content.usatoday.com/communities/gamehunters/post/2012/05/video-game-sales-hit-five-month-sales-slide/1#.T6xgCOtYvHS
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Post by: Owl-faced Wizard on May 10, 2012, 11:16:36 PM
so apparently the ds outsold vita. interesting.

EDIT:

PSP < PS2 < Vita < Wii < DS < 3DS < 150k < PS3 < 200k < 360

that's the current estimate
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Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on May 11, 2012, 12:08:57 AM
32% decrease?  Wow
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Post by: Tasty on May 11, 2012, 12:11:42 AM
Quote from: Owl-faced Wizard on May 10, 2012, 11:16:36 PM
so apparently the ds outsold vita. interesting.

EDIT:

PSP < PS2 < Vita < Wii < DS < 3DS < 150k < PS3 < 200k < 360

that's the current estimate

Those are pitiful sales all around. :-\ 200k on the upper bound...
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Post by: Beezy on May 11, 2012, 12:18:40 AM
Quote from: Andrex on May 10, 2012, 02:46:11 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on May 10, 2012, 02:15:54 PM
Either ORC sold a shit-ton in Europe or Capcom really, really overshipped it.  NA only accounts for about 600k of sales.

Holy beezy.
You called?
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Post by: Tasty on May 11, 2012, 12:37:46 AM
I was just deifying you, think nothing of it.

:bow Beezy :bow2
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Post by: Stoney Mason on May 11, 2012, 12:49:09 AM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on May 10, 2012, 10:02:26 PM
The console industry is in trouble.  One of two things is happening here.  Either we're in a slow-motion industry crash, or there was a grave miscalculation on the part of MS/Sony with regards to how long this generation should run.  This year is *awful* compared to last year, which was already down from the prior year, and pretty much everyone is losing money in the console space.

I think one of the issues is that this console generation hasn't followed the traditional price cycle. These consoles would be like $99 dollars or $129 dollars or something any other gen. Instead MS, Sony kept their prices high and just kept putting in larger hard drives and that's not a price drop. A playstation is still $250. That's pretty high relative to history.  They should have hit extremely mainstream prices by this point where its a no brainer to buy one instead of a decent outlay of money.

As far as the Vita that's only going to get worse and worse.
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Post by: Owl-faced Wizard on May 11, 2012, 12:57:59 AM
The continuing high prices and especially long generation is the result of decisions made early on, they really need to keep making a profit on this hardware.  MS/Sony were totally trying to murder each other feature/spec-wise early in the match, and now they're kind of both resting on the ropes trying to catch their breath, calling a temporary truce.  Sorry for the shitty analogy.
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Post by: Tasty on May 11, 2012, 01:23:56 AM
Quote from: Owl-faced Wizard on May 11, 2012, 12:57:59 AM
The continuing high prices and especially long generation is the result of decisions made early on, they really need to keep making a profit on this hardware.  MS/Sony were totally trying to murder each other feature/spec-wise early in the match, and now they're kind of both resting on the ropes trying to catch their breath, calling a temporary truce.  Sorry for the shitty analogy.

Worked for me.  8)
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Post by: Vertigo on May 11, 2012, 02:23:51 AM
Vita needs a serious price drop. Lets see if Sony will be relaunching that thing at E3 a significant price drop and better games are needed. And games that are not just small screen versions of PS3 games.

The other results are no big surprise. There were no big games out so i'm not surprised at the results. Next week Max Payne 3 is out then we have DiabloIII as well, both of those are going to clean up. The industry model is fucked though look at all the big hitters coming from mid september onwards must be like 15-20 'big' games on the way that we know of. After E3 that may expand even more. The we have the WiiU launch how do they expect people t be able to afford all this?

Hopefully R* announces GTAV for October/November that should clear up some space as publishers scramble to move their games.
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Post by: maxy on May 11, 2012, 02:35:39 AM
Is NPD tracking used game sales?

It would be interesting to see how they compare.
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Post by: maxy on May 11, 2012, 04:36:51 AM
bookmarked
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Post by: Eel O'Brian on May 11, 2012, 07:37:06 AM
Not at retail, no.  At retail just about all you ever see is shitty flash game compilations in bargain bins.  As more powerful and affordable off-the-shelf PC systems become available, though, the likelihood of a what we'd consider a "core" downloadable PC game hitting that mark in month one increases.
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Post by: archie4208 on May 11, 2012, 07:44:56 AM
Blizzard has already sold 1.2 million copies of D3 via WoW annual passes (worldwide).  That plus a large emphasis on DD makes me believe that D3's opening retail month will be good, but nothing mindblowing.

I think Max Payne 3 will be the top selling retail game of May, if only for the fact it has Rockstar hype and is multiplatform. 

spoiler (click to show/hide)
Feel free to quote this in a month.  I'm awful at this whole sales prediction thingie
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Post by: Cerveza mas fina on May 11, 2012, 10:01:01 AM
Npd dont matter, D3 will do 3/5 million WW by then end of May :)
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Post by: maxy on May 11, 2012, 12:29:34 PM
Quote
the holding company posted a 21.8 billion yen of net income ($273 million) with forecasting of 40 billion yen for the next period (2013)

operation income/loss results by segment:
Pachinco & Pachislots = 71 billion yen ($889.4 million) profit
Amusement Machine Sales (Arcade) = 7.4 billion yen ($92.8 million) profit
Amusement Center Operations = 355 million yen ($4.4 million) profit
Consumer business (Video Game Software) = 15.1 billion yen ($189 million) loss

this year the consumer business segment is losing quite a lot than usual! this is the worst performance since the merger (i have no idea if the re-structuring loss is included or not which is around $83.2 million)

Arcade Major titles:
StarHorse3 Season I　A NEW LEGEND BEGINS | 10.1 billion yen
WORLD CLUB Champion Football Series | 3.6 billion yen
SEGA NETWORK MAHJONG MJ5 | 2.8 billion yen
BORDER BREAK Series | 2.3 billion yen
SENGOKU TAISEN | 1.2 billion yen

Video Games Major titles
Mario & Sonic at the London 2012 OlympicGames (Wii/3DS) | 3.28 million copy
Sonic Generations (PS3/360/PC/3DS) | 1.85 million copy
Virtua Tennis™ 4 (PS3/360/Wii/PSV/PC) | 1 million copy
Football Manager 2012 (PC/PSP) | 710 thousands of copies
Yakuza: Dead Souls | 550 thousands of copies

SEGA sold in total 17.2 million copy of games worldwide (6.1 in U.S / 8.3 in Europe / 2.8 in Japan)
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=37773017&postcount=1

Sega must be burning videogames money somewhere,almost $200 million loss  :o
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Post by: Takao on May 11, 2012, 12:35:33 PM
Binary Domain was a gigantic bomba so yeah. It's disappointing to see this SEGA still bleeding money since this is the best something named SEGA has been post-Dreamcast.
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Post by: Momo on May 11, 2012, 12:43:02 PM
Is there any funny accounting going on there or is that really what the sega-sammy video game numbers look like?
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Post by: Tasty on May 11, 2012, 12:43:54 PM
Vita sold less than DSi last month. :lol Between 50k and 83k.

Jeeze I even feel bad for laughing at that. :-\
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Post by: Bebpo on May 11, 2012, 01:54:43 PM
RGG of the End & Binary Domain doing even worse than usual Yakuza entries along with Vanquish bomba and stuff kind of leads me to suspect that people get enough quality shooting people in the face games from Western developers that they have no interest in playing Japanese shooters.  Yet most likely these Japanese shooters were made to appeal to the West that likes shooters. 

This gen... :'(
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Post by: Cerveza mas fina on May 11, 2012, 02:01:46 PM
Yeah I was including digital in that.

I think it's actually over 3 million pre-orders if you count Annual Passes (which was a great invention from Blizz you got to hand it to them!)
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Post by: Trent Dole on May 11, 2012, 02:27:45 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on May 11, 2012, 12:46:57 PM
RGG of the End was a much softer seller than the usual installment, and Sonic's numbers keep going down.

The traditional console business just isn't worth it anymore.
They seem to realize that...
http://www.siliconera.com/2012/05/11/sega-to-shift-focus-to-digital-and-social-as-packaged-game-sales-decline/

Also Capcom sales targets for the year:

Resident Evil 6: 7 Million
DmC Devil May Cry: 2 Million
Dragon's Dogma: 1.5 Million
Lost Planet 3: 1.4 Million

Most of those seem possible, but do that many dig RE still? Damn.
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Post by: Takao on May 11, 2012, 02:59:02 PM
2 million people bought ORC and that's a turd muffin. 7 million people buying a decent Resident Evil could happen.
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Post by: Cerveza mas fina on May 11, 2012, 03:21:24 PM
Or 2 million less people will buy RE6 cause of ORC.
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Post by: Cerveza mas fina on May 11, 2012, 03:22:28 PM
Quote from: Andrex on May 11, 2012, 12:43:54 PM
Vita sold less than DSi last month. :lol Between 50k and 83k.

Jeeze I even feel bad for laughing at that. :-\

Dude it's my job to test Vita games  :gloomy :gloomy :gloomy
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Post by: Tasty on May 11, 2012, 03:30:24 PM
Quote from: Premium Lager on May 11, 2012, 03:22:28 PM
Quote from: Andrex on May 11, 2012, 12:43:54 PM
Vita sold less than DSi last month. :lol Between 50k and 83k.

Jeeze I even feel bad for laughing at that. :-\

Dude it's my job to test Vita games  :gloomy :gloomy :gloomy

Be proud, you're one of the few who will ever play them. ;)
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Post by: Stoney Mason on May 11, 2012, 03:30:31 PM
Quote from: Andrex on May 11, 2012, 12:43:54 PM
Vita sold less than DSi last month. :lol Between 50k and 83k.

Jeeze I even feel bad for laughing at that. :-\

It's only going to get worse for it in America. They released a product out of its time, and out of price range.
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Post by: Cerveza mas fina on May 11, 2012, 03:37:56 PM
Quote from: Andrex on May 11, 2012, 03:30:24 PM
Quote from: Premium Lager on May 11, 2012, 03:22:28 PM
Quote from: Andrex on May 11, 2012, 12:43:54 PM
Vita sold less than DSi last month. :lol Between 50k and 83k.

Jeeze I even feel bad for laughing at that. :-\

Dude it's my job to test Vita games  :gloomy :gloomy :gloomy

Be proud, you're one of the few who will ever play them. ;)

Hehe so true. The games are quite good though to be honest.
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Post by: Momo on May 11, 2012, 04:32:14 PM
Quote from: Premium Lager on May 11, 2012, 03:21:24 PM
Or 2 million less people will buy RE6 cause of ORC.
Something I am speculating will happen as well.

DmC Devil May Cry: 2 Million
Dragon's Dogma: 1.5 Million
Lost Planet 3: 1.4 Million

These seem reasonable, where is the crapcpomomcp that I know and ridicule?
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Post by: Tasty on May 11, 2012, 04:39:14 PM
When are they releasing DmC? If it's anywhere near November they'll have trouble meeting 2mil I think.

How did the HD collection do?
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Post by: Joe Molotov on May 11, 2012, 06:23:45 PM
Quote from: recursivelyenumerable on May 10, 2012, 10:26:03 PM
I sold a billion copies of myself today

Are you retailer exclusive?
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Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on May 11, 2012, 06:58:36 PM
Consoles are dying and the only alternative is playing shitty touch screen games with an IAP model.

Looks like the master race might end out ekeing out a victory afterall.
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Post by: Tasty on May 11, 2012, 07:01:19 PM
Quote from: The Experiment on May 11, 2012, 06:58:36 PM
Consoles are dying and the only alternative is playing shitty touch screen games with an IAP model.

Looks like the master race might end out ekeing out a victory afterall.

Same year as the Linux desktop. Which may actually happen if Windows 8 flops and Steam coming!

/cries
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Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on May 11, 2012, 07:23:23 PM
Quote from: Andrex on May 11, 2012, 07:01:19 PM
Quote from: The Experiment on May 11, 2012, 06:58:36 PM
Consoles are dying and the only alternative is playing shitty touch screen games with an IAP model.

Looks like the master race might end out ekeing out a victory afterall.

Same year as the Linux desktop. Which may actually happen if Windows 8 flops and Steam coming!

/cries

With emulation, there's enough gaming to last me several lifetimes.

I just don't have much time for bullshit these days.  I want to sit down and play a game, sans bullshit.  I don't want to play on a touch screen just as I didn't want to waggle.  If none of the next generation consoles have the bullshit quota that I desire, I can walk away.  It's nothing to me to spend the rest of my gaming life playing MAME or Dolphin or PCSX2.
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Post by: Tasty on May 11, 2012, 09:17:41 PM
Quote from: The Experiment on May 11, 2012, 07:23:23 PM
Quote from: Andrex on May 11, 2012, 07:01:19 PM
Quote from: The Experiment on May 11, 2012, 06:58:36 PM
Consoles are dying and the only alternative is playing shitty touch screen games with an IAP model.

Looks like the master race might end out ekeing out a victory afterall.

Same year as the Linux desktop. Which may actually happen if Windows 8 flops and Steam coming!

/cries

With emulation, there's enough gaming to last me several lifetimes.

I just don't have much time for bullshit these days.  I want to sit down and play a game, sans bullshit.  I don't want to play on a touch screen just as I didn't want to waggle.  If none of the next generation consoles have the bullshit quota that I desire, I can walk away.  It's nothing to me to spend the rest of my gaming life playing MAME or Dolphin or PCSX2.

Amen brother.
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Post by: Huff on May 11, 2012, 10:47:04 PM
Quote from: Andrex on May 11, 2012, 09:17:41 PM
Quote from: The Experiment on May 11, 2012, 07:23:23 PM
Quote from: Andrex on May 11, 2012, 07:01:19 PM
Quote from: The Experiment on May 11, 2012, 06:58:36 PM
Consoles are dying and the only alternative is playing shitty touch screen games with an IAP model.

Looks like the master race might end out ekeing out a victory afterall.

Same year as the Linux desktop. Which may actually happen if Windows 8 flops and Steam coming!

/cries

With emulation, there's enough gaming to last me several lifetimes.

I just don't have much time for bullshit these days.  I want to sit down and play a game, sans bullshit.  I don't want to play on a touch screen just as I didn't want to waggle.  If none of the next generation consoles have the bullshit quota that I desire, I can walk away.  It's nothing to me to spend the rest of my gaming life playing MAME or Dolphin or PCSX2.

Amen brother.

You'd have to be willing to play non nintendo games first
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Post by: Tasty on May 11, 2012, 10:48:21 PM
DOLPHIN'S ALL I NEED OK

I can't betray Shiggy-sama. :'(
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Post by: Cerveza mas fina on May 12, 2012, 02:42:14 PM
True Gamestop story:

Customer: What's the difference between a PSP and a PS Vita?
Clerk: It's got touchscreen.

 :gloomy :gloomy :gloomy
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Post by: Tasty on May 12, 2012, 05:45:21 PM
Quote from: Premium Lager on May 12, 2012, 02:42:14 PM
True Gamestop story:

Customer: What's the difference between a PSP and a PS Vita?
Clerk: It's got touchscreen.

 :gloomy :gloomy :gloomy

What, that's not true? :spin
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Post by: Positive Touch on May 12, 2012, 08:27:54 PM
Quote from: Momo on May 11, 2012, 04:32:14 PM

DmC Devil May Cry: 2 Million
Dragon's Dogma: 1.5 Million
Lost Planet 3: 1.4 Million



lawl hope capcom employees are preparing for the storm

what in god's name makes them think they can hit those numbers? how many people out there are talking about how bad they wanted lost planet 3? how many even know dragon's dogma exists?
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Post by: Trent Dole on May 12, 2012, 08:34:25 PM
Uh for LP3 none that I'm aware of, but DD has a pretty massive thread on SA for what that's worth.
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Post by: Tasty on May 12, 2012, 09:01:24 PM
Quote from: Positive Touch on May 12, 2012, 08:27:54 PM
lawl hope capcom employees are preparing for the storm

There's a storm coming, Capcom. You and your friends better batten down the hatches because when it hits, you're all going to wonder how you ever thought you could live so large and leave so little for the rest of us.
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Post by: Trent Dole on May 12, 2012, 09:06:11 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X5LeZs7VPb4
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Post by: Bebpo on May 12, 2012, 09:16:32 PM
I just saw the April NPD thread on gaf

ugh, things are pretty bad all around.  I'm glad the few people here on the bore working at game companies are at the few stable ones that aren't going out of business anytime soon, because industry is looking grim. 

No room left for innovation, creativity, or originality outside the indie scene.  The main console scene is money + marketing + pray to the sky effect.
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Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on May 12, 2012, 09:24:31 PM
Quote from: Bebpo on May 12, 2012, 09:16:32 PM
I just saw the April NPD thread on gaf

ugh, things are pretty bad all around.  I'm glad the few people here on the bore working at game companies are at the few stable ones that aren't going out of business anytime soon, because industry is looking grim. 

No room left for innovation, creativity, or originality outside the indie scene.  The main console scene is money + marketing + pray to the sky effect.

I think we're in the midst of a crash.  Maybe not a crash in the veins of the 1980s but they're crashing nevertheless.
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Post by: Huff on May 12, 2012, 09:52:14 PM
I wasn't around for any of the crashes. Whats the main affect on the consumer?
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Post by: Great Rumbler on May 12, 2012, 10:09:05 PM
Quote from: Huff on May 12, 2012, 09:52:14 PM
I wasn't around for any of the crashes. Whats the main affect on the consumer?

A lot of companies went bankrupt and people started playing more Japanese games [Europeans started playing more home PC games].
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Post by: Tasty on May 12, 2012, 10:10:02 PM
I don't think we're in a crash but things are definitely going to have to change, and the gen has dragged on for way too long.

We need a new gen, we need consoles to become as attractive for indies as iOS and Android are, and we need a big push into digital. It's unlikely the industry will expand much more, in fact I think it may contract to PS1/N64 levels (in terms of total console sold next gen), but that isn't a crash. That's just the casuals going to other things like smartphones. But there will always be a (fairly large, IMO) audience for dedicated gaming hardware.

The problem is that publishers need to reign in dev costs severely and start investing in a larger amount of new IPs and innovative games, and that's the only thing I don't really see happening until absolutely necessary unfortunately. It's more likely that publishers are going to crash IMO, devs will just find new avenues to make games and it's up to console makers to ensure that they can get on board.

Kickstarter and digital distribution have shone a light on how vestigial publishers are, and they need to adapt or die.
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Post by: Takao on May 12, 2012, 10:33:39 PM
Will Avengers Wii-U/Kinect be this gen's ET? Ubisoft does ship a tonne of copies...
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Post by: Takao on May 12, 2012, 11:52:54 PM
LP3 is shakiest IMO. It's coming off of the disappointing LP2, and from a development studio with a sketchy history.
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Post by: Bebpo on May 12, 2012, 11:59:16 PM
Capcom is good at shipping things.

Those numbers should be fine.

Back when they wanted 10 million from Dragon's Dogma or something, that was lol; these are reasonable.  RE might be a bit of a stretch if RE is less popular these days than RE5 days.  But then again I'm sure retailers will stuff 7 million RE6 copies on the shelves considering how well RE5 sold.
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Post by: HyperZoneWasAwesome on May 13, 2012, 12:18:10 AM
a PC port of Dragon's Dogma would go a long way towards helping that number.  In fact I'd be surprised if at least two of those three don't get PC ports eventually.

RE's number seems awfully damn optimistic, 5 might have met that number eventually, but that was coming off the universally beloved part 4, part 6 has a harder act to follow, as does Lost Planet 3.
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Post by: Momo on May 13, 2012, 03:11:11 AM
LP3 will hit those numbers, of that I am fairly confident.
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Post by: Cerveza mas fina on May 13, 2012, 07:27:26 AM
I don't think it's a crash, it's a shift.

F2P, mobile games, niche indie titles, casual games.

The market is diverse now with something there for everybody. As everybody has been saying for a long time now middle tier games and companies will go away. Thing is NPD won't track this and it might seem like a crash but it's not.

Personally I'm looking to get out of this business I think since the future of a QA lead and then manager with massive overtime and the uncertainty of how platforms perform is not something I want as a future family man. If I had some higher up job I could stay but now it's not looking good and I've been working in QA/Localisation for 4 years now.
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Post by: Cerveza mas fina on May 13, 2012, 08:13:20 AM
Oh yes I agree on that totally, these companies in these new genres are new. It's not going to be the same as before.

EA will stay prob, Blizz Activision, Nintendo, Valve. Like the big boys of the movie industry.

The companies that will rule F2P, casual etc. I don't even know their names but they are probably already there Gala, Riot, Zynga etc.
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Post by: Great Rumbler on May 13, 2012, 12:23:06 PM
Kickstarter/iOS future :rock
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Post by: Tasty on May 13, 2012, 12:34:28 PM
Nexon could be huge(r in the Western gaming industry) in the future. There were rumors they were gonna buy EA. Also Rumbler, I think if it's going to be Kickstarter plus anything, Republique shows it's going to be PC.
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Post by: tiesto on May 13, 2012, 12:40:27 PM
Quote from: Great Rumbler on May 12, 2012, 10:09:05 PM
Quote from: Huff on May 12, 2012, 09:52:14 PM
I wasn't around for any of the crashes. Whats the main affect on the consumer?

A lot of companies went bankrupt and people started playing more Japanese games [Europeans started playing more home PC games].

IIRC people played a lot of Japanese games before the NES as well - Donkey Kong, Frogger, Pac Man, Space Invaders, Dig Dug, Galaga, etc. One of the only times when things were split evenly Japan/US.

That being said, if it means more people playing Japanese games, bring on the crash :rock
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Post by: Joe Molotov on May 13, 2012, 12:44:48 PM
Quote from: tiesto on May 13, 2012, 12:40:27 PM
Quote from: Great Rumbler on May 12, 2012, 10:09:05 PM
Quote from: Huff on May 12, 2012, 09:52:14 PM
I wasn't around for any of the crashes. Whats the main affect on the consumer?

A lot of companies went bankrupt and people started playing more Japanese games [Europeans started playing more home PC games].

IIRC people played a lot of Japanese games before the NES as well - Donkey Kong, Frogger, Pac Man, Space Invaders, Dig Dug, Galaga, etc. One of the only times when things were split evenly Japan/US.

That being said, if it means more people playing Japanese games, bring on the crash :rock

This time Japanese gaming will probably die too; we'll all be playing like Middle Eastern games this time around, like Garshasp 2 and MARG BAR AMRIKA RAMPAGE ALLAH AKBAR!
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Post by: Trent Dole on May 13, 2012, 01:32:19 PM
GARSHASP!
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Post by: Takao on May 13, 2012, 01:47:48 PM
can't wait for unearthed 3: faris's deception
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Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on May 13, 2012, 03:09:20 PM
Quote from: Premium Lager on May 13, 2012, 07:27:26 AM
I don't think it's a crash, it's a shift.

F2P, mobile games, niche indie titles, casual games.

The market is diverse now with something there for everybody. As everybody has been saying for a long time now middle tier games and companies will go away. Thing is NPD won't track this and it might seem like a crash but it's not.

Personally I'm looking to get out of this business I think since the future of a QA lead and then manager with massive overtime and the uncertainty of how platforms perform is not something I want as a future family man. If I had some higher up job I could stay but now it's not looking good and I've been working in QA/Localisation for 4 years now.

I don't know bro, a 32% year over year contraction is indicative of more than just a simple shift.
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Post by: Stoney Mason on May 13, 2012, 03:11:33 PM
We'll see about all the crash talk. I'll bookmark a few posts.  :smug
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Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on May 13, 2012, 03:31:49 PM
Quote from: Stoney Mason on May 13, 2012, 03:11:33 PM
We'll see about all the crash talk. I'll bookmark a few posts.  :smug

Well, if all that is left after this "shift" is touch screen gaming, then it might as well be dead to me.
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Post by: Stoney Mason on May 13, 2012, 03:35:12 PM
I have no doubt the market is indeed changing. Even fundamentally so. I'd just like somebody to define "crash" and what they actually mean by it so its not a generic term without any real meaning. Because I'm old enough to have been around and gaming for the "Atari Crash". So when people use that term I want to know exactly what terms they are defining.

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Post by: maxy on May 13, 2012, 03:41:54 PM
Whimsy will save us
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Post by: Tasty on May 13, 2012, 06:25:51 PM
Quote from: The Experiment on May 13, 2012, 03:09:20 PM
Quote from: Premium Lager on May 13, 2012, 07:27:26 AM
I don't think it's a crash, it's a shift.

F2P, mobile games, niche indie titles, casual games.

The market is diverse now with something there for everybody. As everybody has been saying for a long time now middle tier games and companies will go away. Thing is NPD won't track this and it might seem like a crash but it's not.

Personally I'm looking to get out of this business I think since the future of a QA lead and then manager with massive overtime and the uncertainty of how platforms perform is not something I want as a future family man. If I had some higher up job I could stay but now it's not looking good and I've been working in QA/Localisation for 4 years now.

I don't know bro, a 32% year over year contraction is indicative of more than just a simple shift.

The generation is long in tooth already and Sony/MS want to drag it out even further. Of course sales will be down.
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Post by: Positive Touch on May 13, 2012, 07:04:03 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on May 13, 2012, 07:35:07 AM
I wouldn't call it a shift at all.  The customers are shifting, yes, but the industry itself isn't.  The traditional console/game industry's days are numbered, and when it crashes, it's going to take most of the companies with it.  Related to its crash, a different industry is rising up in F2P and mobile, and for the most part its kings are not familiar faces at all.

and i wouldn't call that a crash.  a lot of old, big-name companies are crashing, but people are still spending billions on games.

high-budget, high-risk gaming was never sustainable in the first place; companies that made their living off that are adjusting or dying off (mostly dying off). people that cry about touchscreen gaming are missing the bigger picture - as more companies are able to make quality games on smaller budgets, they'll move away from big expensive consoles with limited userbases and onto all-in-one devices, i.e. smartphones.  phones and tablets are already working to become streaming home entertainment devices.  there's enough demand for high-quality games that they'll be made (at more reasonable budgets and prices than today) for those platforms, and enough of a market to sell specialized items like console-style controllers.  as we're already seeing with leaks of next-gen shit, integrated tablets and phones are the way of the future and dedicated consoles are on their way out. 

i also think there'll still be "hollywood" games like we have today, but i think it'll be done by much fewer companies, they'll all be western, and they'll be pc-only. pc gaming has always been the realm of the over-ambitious high-minded nerd, and i think there's still enough of those around that they'll be able to keep the market alive thanks to old-school nerds like us.
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Post by: Flannel Boy on May 13, 2012, 10:33:20 PM
It won't be a crash, but a whimper. Whimper and whimsy.
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Post by: AdmiralViscen on May 13, 2012, 10:37:21 PM
This gen is doing pretty good when you consider that the cheapest consoles now are the price of launch consoles in prior gens. The long gen and high pricing are preventing the introduction of bottom feeders. It's not too late to fix that I think, but that time might be coming soon.
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Post by: Oblivion on May 13, 2012, 10:43:31 PM
Somebody made a post (here or on gaf, I forget) that mentioned we have more million+ selling games on consoles this gen than we did last gen? Is that true, or am I insane in the membrane?
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Post by: iconoclast on May 13, 2012, 11:07:29 PM
Question for Oscar, or anyone who's been following Japanese sales for years: How has the Fire Pro Wrestling series done? Did FPW Returns (2005) bomb? There's a whole bunch of FPW games, so I assume the series was successful at some point, but had a steady decline somewhere... I'd guess starting with the Dreamcast version (FPWD).

I wish they would make a new one for the Vita or something.
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Post by: Positive Touch on May 13, 2012, 11:11:26 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on May 13, 2012, 08:35:17 PM
So your scenario does *not* describe a crash of the traditional home console market?

i thought we were talking about the video game market crashing, not consoles specifically
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Post by: Takao on May 14, 2012, 12:39:24 AM
Quote from: iconoclast on May 13, 2012, 11:07:29 PM
Question for Oscar, or anyone who's been following Japanese sales for years: How has the Fire Pro Wrestling series done? Did FPW Returns (2005) bomb? There's a whole bunch of FPW games, so I assume the series was successful at some point, but had a steady decline somewhere... I'd guess starting with the Dreamcast version (FPWD).

I wish they would make a new one for the Vita or something.

I don't think Spike cares about FPW anymore. They have weird PSP RPGs where you impregnate gods, and have more shitty DBZ games to make.
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Post by: Stoney Mason on May 14, 2012, 12:41:25 AM
When people say crash I think of a couple of things so maybe that's where the "crash" issue is tricky. When Atari crashed they fundamentally brought down the entire console gaming industry of that time. Gaming shifted back to the personal computers for a period until Nintendo came back and were able to convince retailers that gaming wasn't a fad.

This situation much more reminds me of cable television which is why I used that analogy earlier. People thought the same thing about the traditional networks when their ratings started plummeting because of cable TV. Look at ratings for TV now versus ten years ago. And 10 years before that. And 10 years before that. There were even people who predicted their complete demise. What instead happened was a re-arranged universe. Where network television played an important yet much lesser role because all these competing stations and networks divided up their audience. So if somebody means a crash in that sense. Then yeah I guess we could call that a crash although I view it simply more as evolution or correction. There are too many big budget games being made that have no hope of recouping their costs.  That has to change and in the meantime while it hasn't changed, a good number of devs are gonna suffer.

Just like television networks, big console manufactures are slow moving giant ships. They can't course correct quickly. But I do think there will be some course corrections especially when they launch their new consoles eventually. There will be a new world though where tablets, free to play PC games, facebook, etc all function as cable TV did. And more people are playing games. Just across different devices. That is inevitable. There will always be some simple to play box or device in your home though that provides essentially what consoles provide in concept. Whether Sony, Microsoft, Apple, Nintendo, or some company not yet on the horizon makes it is moot. Because console gaming simply means simple gaming in a box. And it won't be hardcore PC gaming on PC's because that shit is too complex for the average joe.
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Post by: Positive Touch on May 14, 2012, 12:43:27 AM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on May 14, 2012, 12:03:03 AM
Nah, my post, the one you quoted, made a separation between the console business (the main industry as we've known it for a long time) and its successor industry.  Games will always be around, but consoles and many of the old giants attached to them have a brief and painful future ahead of them.
ah yup, sorry i missed the distinction. we agree then!

really as long as i can get 1) challenging-yet-fun action games and 2) ridiculously large and detailed open-world rpgs, i'll be fine.  i don't think there's much danger of either of those going away anytime soon.
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Post by: originalz on May 14, 2012, 01:40:58 AM
Quote from: iconoclast on May 13, 2012, 11:07:29 PM
Question for Oscar, or anyone who's been following Japanese sales for years: How has the Fire Pro Wrestling series done? Did FPW Returns (2005) bomb? There's a whole bunch of FPW games, so I assume the series was successful at some point, but had a steady decline somewhere... I'd guess starting with the Dreamcast version (FPWD).

I wish they would make a new one for the Vita or something.

I think a lot of it has to do with the lack of interest in pro wrestling in Japan.  The old Firepro games came out during the golden age of wrestling, it used to be absolutely huge in Japan in the late 80s-mid 90s, occupying prime time TV with memorable wrestlers and being especially popular with kids.  If you had a PC Engine you probably also had a copy of Firepro.  Around the late 90s MMA started to pick up with K-1 and PRIDE, most people just started watching that and stopped watching wrestling.  Nowadays, people don't care about wrestling anymore, it's only shown during late-night hours or on premium channels, so kids aren't watching it and most people would probably just watch anime or some shit during those hours.  It still exists and has a dedicated fanbase, but it's simply not mainstream anymore and a hardcore wrestling game like Firepro just can't survive.

Sadly, due to several scandals and problems MMA in Japan is also dead, so there's no real mainstream avenue for the genre anymore.  Ah well, as long as I can watch judo I'm happy!
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Post by: maxy on May 14, 2012, 02:29:48 AM
http://andriasang.com/con102/squenix_earnings/
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Following major losses the year prior, Square Enix returned to profitability in fiscal 2012. Net sales were up 2.1% to 127,896 million yen. Operating income was up 46.2% to 10,713 million yen. Net income went from a 12,043 million yen loss in FY2011 to a 6,060 million yen gain.

In its earnings report today, Square Enix credited the favorable results to increased sales of console games, boosted by Deus Ex Human Revolution and Final Fantasy XIII-2. The company also saw continued expansion in growth areas such as web and smartphones, with such titles as Sengoku IXA and Final Fantasy Brigade performing well.

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Post by: maxy on May 14, 2012, 03:08:04 AM
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Post by: pilonv1 on May 14, 2012, 03:31:54 AM
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- The boxed retail market is dead.  Specialty stores pull way back in scale, general retailers that carry games reduce shelf space to nil. 

Maybe it ends up as 10-20% of the market but I don't think it will ever disappear completely. There is a segment of the population that will want something in their hands, and general retailers will reduce to near zero but they'll still stock the few remaining major titles that have some mainstream appeal.

A huge issue is there is a massive gap between perceived value of a console game by consumers and publishers. Consumers don't want to pay $250+$40/$60 for an experience that is not (to them, regardless of how much love you think went into the development of Kid Icarus) significantly different to the 99c game on their smart phone. Hardware manufacturers wont reduce prices because they need to recoup the costs from poor decisions 6 years ago. Retailers desperately want lower prices, but they can't get them because of the sins of the past. Not saying that lower prices would prevent any of this happening because it wont, but there would be less problems than there are currently.

One thing I always thought was amusing was the weird fear of having something other than a AAA title developed by hundreds of people with every feature box ticked in your lineup, as if being perceived by their peers or the media as a "small/budget publisher" is similar to being called a truther/birther. Now they're being eclipsed by tiny teams and bedroom coders putting out free or near free games.

I don't see FTP+IAP working for the mass market long term though, mainly because you get the majority of your revenue from 1% of the userbase. Ultimately I think the industry is just going through a huge cost/pricing adjustment, and we'll end up with the majority of content priced between $1-20 with smaller scopes and narrower focuses on as many platforms as possible.
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Post by: Cerveza mas fina on May 14, 2012, 03:38:55 AM
I think you're a bit Oscar, also forgetting that this gen is playing out during the worst economic crisis in decades. Japans, US, Germany, UK, all these huge economies have flatlined or worse in the past 4/5 years.

I don't know if the economy will ever bounce back, but if it will luxury products like console games will bounce back too.
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Post by: Fifstar on May 14, 2012, 05:02:45 AM
Quote from: Premium Lager on May 14, 2012, 03:38:55 AM
I think you're a bit Oscar, also forgetting that this gen is playing out during the worst economic crisis in decades. Japans, US, Germany, UK, all these huge economies have flatlined or worse in the past 4/5 years.

I don't know if the economy will ever bounce back, but if it will luxury products like console games will bounce back too.

But were consoles really affected that much by the crisis? I don't know exactly how the overall sales during this generation compare to those the PS2 generation, but if sales are similar and budgets are mainly to blame for the problems of the traditional videogame industry, I don't see how the economic crisis can be held responsible.

I don't say you can disregard it completly, but it seems disillusional to think that the videogame market would have grown substantially more, enough to sustain the increased budgets if it were not for the crisis.

Maybe the market potential for traditional console gaming just has hit the ceiling during the years of the Playstation 1 + 2.

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Post by: tiesto on May 14, 2012, 08:32:02 AM
Quote from: Joe Molotov® EDGE™ on May 13, 2012, 12:44:48 PM
Quote from: tiesto on May 13, 2012, 12:40:27 PM
Quote from: Great Rumbler on May 12, 2012, 10:09:05 PM
Quote from: Huff on May 12, 2012, 09:52:14 PM
I wasn't around for any of the crashes. Whats the main affect on the consumer?

A lot of companies went bankrupt and people started playing more Japanese games [Europeans started playing more home PC games].

IIRC people played a lot of Japanese games before the NES as well - Donkey Kong, Frogger, Pac Man, Space Invaders, Dig Dug, Galaga, etc. One of the only times when things were split evenly Japan/US.

That being said, if it means more people playing Japanese games, bring on the crash :rock

This time Japanese gaming will probably die too; we'll all be playing like Middle Eastern games this time around, like Garshasp 2 and MARG BAR AMRIKA RAMPAGE ALLAH AKBAR!

I have a feeling that Eastern European games will weather the crash the best... then a new generation of kids will grow up obsessed with Eastern European media, religiously listen to cheesy dance-pop music and have a fetish for Slavic women.
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Post by: tiesto on May 14, 2012, 08:52:29 AM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on May 14, 2012, 02:40:39 AM
- and in the end, customers interested in games are playing on their phones and/or tablets, with steam picking up most of what qualifies as the hardcore gaming contingent today.  console industry is dead, Japanese gaming has retreated back into itself for another round of the galapagos shuffle, games are back to making money hand over fist relative to their investment.  one million copies of uncharted 4: drake's unavoidable blowjob are buried in the nevada desert.

What does this mean?
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Post by: Tasty on May 14, 2012, 08:58:41 AM
I agree with most of Oscar's post except consoles going away. I do think that it might be time for one of the big three to bow out, but I think there will always be a market for dedicated gaming hardware (that also sort of acts like a DRM machine.)
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Post by: D3RANG3D on May 14, 2012, 09:00:01 AM
Quote from: Andrex on May 14, 2012, 08:58:41 AM
I agree with most of Oscar's post except consoles going away. I do think that it might be time for one of the big three to bow out, but I think there will always be a market for dedicated gaming hardware (that also sort of acts like a DRM machine.)

I also think it's time for Nintendo to go third party. :P
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Post by: cool breeze on May 14, 2012, 09:19:22 AM
Quote from: tiesto on May 14, 2012, 08:32:02 AM
I have a feeling that Eastern European games will weather the crash the best... then a new generation of kids will grow up obsessed with Eastern European media, religiously listen to cheesy dance-pop music and have a fetish for Slavic women.
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I'd like to say the eastern bloc is exempt from all this business, but recently GSC shut down along with the STALKER sequel.  All that money saved from forgoing playtesting didn't save them :'(
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Post by: Tasty on May 14, 2012, 11:08:59 AM
Quote from: D3RANG3D on May 14, 2012, 09:00:01 AM
Quote from: Andrex on May 14, 2012, 08:58:41 AM
I agree with most of Oscar's post except consoles going away. I do think that it might be time for one of the big three to bow out, but I think there will always be a market for dedicated gaming hardware (that also sort of acts like a DRM machine.)

I also think it's time for Nintendo to go third party. :P

It could be Nintendo or it could be Sony. I doubt it will be MS as the 360 is quickly becoming one of their most important, successful areas and will only continue to get more important in the future as the home media space from Google and Apple heat the space up.

Sony is hemorrhaging money hand-over-fist, the Vita is a bomb and I hear they're going batshit crazy with the PS4's specs which would be great except for the fact the PS3 sucked up all their PS1/PS2 moneys like a black hole and they have nothing in reserve to cushion the fall. And honestly, a "success" like the PS3 has had might even be too optimistic for PS4.

Nintendo's vulnerable because they only do games, but like Disney their IPs will always be worth something and they have a pretty large amount of cash in reserve from what I remember. They'll at least survive this upcoming generation and if they don't completely bomb out Vita-style I think they should be OK. I think retail-digital games for 3DS and on launch for Wii U shows they can at least change quickly enough when they decide to (if the 3DS's adequate online didn't show otherwise -- adequate being a step up from fricking untenable.) The eShop's actually pretty good but not nearly at Android/iOS levels yet obviously, but then again none of the others are except maybe XBLA.

Sony and Nintendo really need to make a quick-entry, digital-only, route for indie devs. The ESRB/PEGI/etc. requirements alone pretty much kill any indie interest in their platforms (if the $2,650 devkits and license fees, not to mention the office requirement, didn't do that already.)
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Post by: Momo on May 14, 2012, 11:23:59 AM
Quote from: Andrex on May 14, 2012, 11:08:59 AM
Sony is hemorrhaging money hand-over-fist,
I believe Kaz is killing off the non-profitable and non-salvageable divisions
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Post by: Tasty on May 14, 2012, 11:30:51 AM
Quote from: Momo on May 14, 2012, 11:23:59 AM
Quote from: Andrex on May 14, 2012, 11:08:59 AM
Sony is hemorrhaging money hand-over-fist,
I believe Kaz is killing off the non-profitable and non-salvageable divisions

Has he? I've just heard hearsay and speculation.

That also doesn't necessarily mean they'll start being profitable any time soon.
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Post by: Momo on May 14, 2012, 12:11:04 PM
Yeah I'm pretty sure killing off those divisions will cost a lot short term
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Post by: maxy on May 14, 2012, 12:11:59 PM
Nintendo abandoning their carefully controlled hardware/software ecosystem?
Crazy talk.

Although there will be tons of unhappy people if WiiU doesn't quite match Wii sales.
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Post by: Takao on May 14, 2012, 12:18:22 PM
Sony really just needs to get rid of the TV business. I wonder how much of their financial problems can be attributed solely to that division. PS3 was a money sink for a few years, but the TV side has been one for a decade.
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Post by: Eel O'Brian on May 14, 2012, 12:35:27 PM
Quote from: maxy on May 14, 2012, 12:11:59 PM
Nintendo abandoning their carefully controlled hardware/software ecosystem?
Crazy talk.

Although there will be tons of unhappy people if WiiU doesn't quite match Wii sales.

it won't

wii was a fad to the casual players like the moms and grannies, they've gotten what they're gonna get out of those folks

all their wiis are either sitting on yard sale tables or packed away in closets, they don't want to buy another new wii sports machine because they already have one they never use
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Post by: Great Rumbler on May 14, 2012, 12:37:41 PM
Honestly, the Wii-U will be exceedingly lucky to do half of what the Wii has done. Which has nothing to do with profitability, though.
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Post by: Tasty on May 14, 2012, 12:38:04 PM
Quote from: maxy on May 14, 2012, 12:11:59 PM
Nintendo abandoning their carefully controlled hardware/software ecosystem?
Crazy talk.

Although there will be tons of unhappy people if WiiU doesn't quite match Wii sales.

There's no way it will and I doubt anybody is expecting it to except greedy stockholders.
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Post by: Stoney Mason on May 14, 2012, 12:39:26 PM
Its extremely unlikely Wii U will capture the same market the Wii did for lots and lots of reasons. Which is not to say they won't be successful and carve out their own niche.
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Post by: Tasty on May 14, 2012, 12:43:29 PM
Quote from: Stoney Mason on May 14, 2012, 12:39:26 PM
Its extremely unlikely Wii U will capture the same market the Wii did for lots and lots of reasons. Which is not to say they won't be successful and carve out their own niche.

If it's profitable at or near launch (and there's no reason it shouldn't be considering the possible price points leaking out in surveys and the rumored hardware) then Nintendo will be fine. 3DS is also supposed to return to profitability in a few months too. As long as they're making a profit on hardware and making Mario and Zelda games they'll be fine. They may have to scale back eventually, but they'll live.
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Post by: Stoney Mason on May 14, 2012, 03:41:02 PM
And for what its worth Minecraft sold a million copies on 360 in 5 days. Trials Evolutions sold hundreds of thousands of copies in a similar period. That's the future to me. Those games sold more than the retail npd titles. For me that shows there is still great consumer demand for gaming on consoles or simple devices in your home. That's the transformation. It's what people want to play and how much they are willing to pay for it relative to what it is giving them that is the key. That's why devs are in trouble. Because their model isn't adapting quickly enough to what consumers actually want.
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Post by: D3RANG3D on May 14, 2012, 04:10:13 PM
Quote from: maxy on May 14, 2012, 12:11:59 PM
Nintendo abandoning their carefully controlled hardware/software ecosystem?
Crazy talk.

Although there will be tons of unhappy people if WiiU doesn't quite match Wii sales.

I just don't want their underpowered hardware and gimmickry, but would buy their games digitally at steam sale prices :smug

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Post by: Momo on May 14, 2012, 11:47:30 PM
I recently read he is ditching the manufacture arm of TVs (panels) at the very least, if not *whelp*
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Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on May 14, 2012, 11:48:37 PM
Quote from: Stoney Mason on May 14, 2012, 03:41:02 PM
And for what its worth Minecraft sold a million copies on 360 in 5 days. Trials Evolutions sold hundreds of thousands of copies in a similar period. That's the future to me. Those games sold more than the retail npd titles. For me that shows there is still great consumer demand for gaming on consoles or simple devices in your home. That's the transformation. It's what people want to play and how much they are willing to pay for it relative to what it is giving them that is the key. That's why devs are in trouble. Because their model isn't adapting quickly enough to what consumers actually want.

I don't agree.  It's like saying back in 2007 (and many people did) that Carnival Games and Wii Play were the future of gaming.  After all, they were simple low budget games that sold shitloads of copies while larger budget titles were underperforming with publishers and developers alike struggling to get out of the quicksand trap known as next gen budgets (sry for the run on sentence).  In the end, other publishers pumped out Carnival Games and Wii Play clones to very little success.

For that reason alone, I'm not sure that developers are supposed to bank their futures on one-off titles like hipster legos (Minecraft).
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Post by: Takao on May 14, 2012, 11:50:47 PM
I think the only reason the TV division only exists now is due to pride. The thing has been a money pit for the past decade, and is likely a huge part of the company's financial woes.
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Post by: Takao on May 14, 2012, 11:51:35 PM
Oh wow, Carnival Games. I forgot that shit even existed. Wasn't there one for Kinect? I'm guessing it sold like games on Kinect do.
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Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on May 15, 2012, 12:01:50 AM
Quote from: Takao on May 14, 2012, 11:51:35 PM
Oh wow, Carnival Games. I forgot that shit even existed. Wasn't there one for Kinect? I'm guessing it sold like games on Kinect do.

(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/61r1I2hlyLL._SL500_AA300_.jpg)

I just remember when people found out it sold hundreds of thousands of copies, along with the amazing sales of Wii Play and Wii Fit that boggled all those with common sense, people, specifically Nintards, crowed that this was the real future of gaming.

Now I'm not saying that smaller budget titles with larger risks are doomed to fail, I'm just saying that I've heard this spiel before, except replace Wii Play with Minecraft.
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Post by: Stoney Mason on May 15, 2012, 12:01:53 AM
Quote from: The Experiment on May 14, 2012, 11:48:37 PM
Quote from: Stoney Mason on May 14, 2012, 03:41:02 PM
And for what its worth Minecraft sold a million copies on 360 in 5 days. Trials Evolutions sold hundreds of thousands of copies in a similar period. That's the future to me. Those games sold more than the retail npd titles. For me that shows there is still great consumer demand for gaming on consoles or simple devices in your home. That's the transformation. It's what people want to play and how much they are willing to pay for it relative to what it is giving them that is the key. That's why devs are in trouble. Because their model isn't adapting quickly enough to what consumers actually want.

I don't agree.  It's like saying back in 2007 (and many people did) that Carnival Games and Wii Play were the future of gaming.  After all, they were simple low budget games that sold shitloads of copies while larger budget titles were underperforming with publishers and developers alike struggling to get out of the quicksand trap known as next gen budgets (sry for the run on sentence).  In the end, other publishers pumped out Carnival Games and Wii Play clones to very little success.

For that reason alone, I'm not sure that developers are supposed to bank their futures on one-off titles like hipster legos (Minecraft).

I don't think Carnival games and or Wii play and Minecraft represent the same thing or same phenomenon of gaming and this comes from someone who doens't even like Minecraft. I don't think what I'm saying is as narrow as Minecraft.

The future of games is social experiences. You can achieve that in many many ways. Whether its Call of Duty, Diablo 3, Minecraft, Demon Souls, etc ,etc. What isn't the future of games is devs making 6 to 10 hours single player only middle tier games that cost 60 bucks. The more devs adapt to that model. The more successful they will be. Because only a small number of games can sustain a mega-budget. That's why I use Minecraft. It's a game with the proper budget. The proper social model. And the proper price. I could say the exact same thing about Trials evolutions or certain iphone games or even some big blockbuster console games. There are some exceptions to this of course. Nintendo comes to mind so far. But even they will have to adapt to how the market is changing despite their unique niche.
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Post by: pilonv1 on May 15, 2012, 12:14:55 AM
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And the proper price.

That gets back to what I said before. Smart Phones/Tablets have completely shifted the value seen in games by the general public, $60 for something that isn't Diablo 3 or the new Call Of Duty isn't good value. They don't care how much it cost you to develop, they want it priced at a point that they think it is good value.
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Post by: Eel O'Brian on May 15, 2012, 12:17:03 AM
i've always thought it was sort of dumb that all these years have gone by and yet, very few sony televisions with any sort of built-in playstation functionality were ever released

yeah, you and i know that those types of TVs come with all sorts of problems, but it still always seemed to me like leaving money on the table
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Post by: Stoney Mason on May 15, 2012, 12:21:56 AM
Quote from: pilonv1 on May 15, 2012, 12:14:55 AM
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And the proper price.

That gets back to what I said before. Smart Phones/Tablets have completely shifted the value seen in games by the general public, $60 for something that isn't Diablo 3 or the new Call Of Duty isn't good value. They don't care how much it cost you to develop, they want it priced at a point that they think it is good value.

So many games get made nowadays where I question why was this even made. Like I literally don't even understand why they thought there was a market for this. Especially once the budget has risen over a certain level. So many games seem like vanity games. Like somebody only made it for ego purposes or in the crazy idea that they could take down a genre king. People don't buy $60 dollars pieces of crap anymore. (Well they do but that's generally because they are attached to a pre-existing franchise that already has significant gaming mind-share)

At least if you go free to play or lower price there is a chance to entice a consumer by just that virtue alone. But $60 bucks for most of the stuff that gets released. Gamers have options and are just generally too educated today for some of that crap to pass. You could put out lots of crap in the old days because the budget was low. You just can't do that today. Unless you lower that budget and fundamentally change what the nature of gaming is by that fact.
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Post by: Momo on May 15, 2012, 12:22:20 AM
Smart TVs are all a sack of shit at this point. Until they have something like android for TVs I'm not going to bother upgrading.
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Post by: cool breeze on May 15, 2012, 12:29:12 AM
Sony weirdly sections off its divisions only to combine them in weirder ways.  You have SE phones with Bravia, Walkman, Cybershot, etc. brands.  Xperia play too but I don't think that was playstation branded.  This is all recent when phones mostly converged into a one do-it-all device instead of a phone that's better at taking pictures or another that's suited for mp3 functionality.

Quote from: pilonv1 on May 15, 2012, 12:14:55 AM
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And the proper price.

That gets back to what I said before. Smart Phones/Tablets have completely shifted the value seen in games by the general public, $60 for something that isn't Diablo 3 or the new Call Of Duty isn't good value. They don't care how much it cost you to develop, they want it priced at a point that they think it is good value.

yeah, it's odd that almost every game tries to be a blockbuster.  most seem to fail.  gaming is like a sea of John Carters.
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Post by: Tasty on May 15, 2012, 12:29:36 AM
Quote from: Momo on May 15, 2012, 12:22:20 AM
Smart TVs are all a sack of shit at this point. Until they have something like android for TVs I'm not going to bother upgrading.

(http://i.imgur.com/EpZAf.jpg)

Full Android. And yes, it's by Sony. Actually was priced really well too when it came out.
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Post by: chronovore on May 15, 2012, 12:44:02 AM
Yeah, a friend of mine picked one of those up on giveaway for US$200. He loves it.
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Post by: Momo on May 15, 2012, 01:07:57 AM
Quote from: Andrex on May 15, 2012, 12:29:36 AM
Quote from: Momo on May 15, 2012, 12:22:20 AM
Smart TVs are all a sack of shit at this point. Until they have something like android for TVs I'm not going to bother upgrading.

[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/EpZAf.jpg[img]

Full Android. And yes, it's by Sony. Actually was priced really well too when it came out.
That is actually something I want.
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Post by: Owl-faced Wizard on May 15, 2012, 01:26:38 AM
Quote from: The Experiment on May 15, 2012, 12:01:50 AM
Quote from: Takao on May 14, 2012, 11:51:35 PM
Oh wow, Carnival Games. I forgot that shit even existed. Wasn't there one for Kinect? I'm guessing it sold like games on Kinect do.

(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/61r1I2hlyLL._SL500_AA300_.jpg)

I just remember when people found out it sold hundreds of thousands of copies, along with the amazing sales of Wii Play and Wii Fit that boggled all those with common sense, people, specifically Nintards, crowed that this was the real future of gaming.

Now I'm not saying that smaller budget titles with larger risks are doomed to fail, I'm just saying that I've heard this spiel before, except replace Wii Play with Minecraft.

???  They were the future of gaming.  Look at all the shit on iOS.  Same sort of thing.
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Post by: Eel O'Brian on May 15, 2012, 07:00:45 AM
Sad times ahead for the antisocial :(
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Post by: Positive Touch on May 15, 2012, 08:20:26 AM
like i said, there'll always be nerds out there creating great single-player games for pc imo
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Post by: Takao on May 15, 2012, 12:45:54 PM
Sony x Panasonic TVs = DEATH OF BOTH

RUN WHILE YOU STILL CAN
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Tasty on May 15, 2012, 01:24:23 PM
Quote from: Takao on May 15, 2012, 12:45:54 PM
Sony x Panasonic TVs = DEATH OF BOTH

RUN WHILE YOU STILL CAN

Yeah I saw that and had to have a laugh. :lol
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Post by: EmCeeGrammar on May 15, 2012, 07:31:27 PM
I personally feel (just talking to irl folks) there will always be an audience for consoles.  Just not on the current trajectory.
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Post by: Tasty on May 16, 2012, 11:09:27 AM
Media Create

PSV 6,340

:omg
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Post by: Owl-faced Wizard on May 16, 2012, 11:14:43 AM
i came
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Post by: Tasty on May 16, 2012, 11:19:05 AM
Full numbers.

Code: [Select]
3DS 46,425
PS3 12,996
PSP 12,247
Vita 6,340
Wii 6,073
PS2 1,212
Xbox 360 1,023
DSi LL 819
DSi 387
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Tasty on May 16, 2012, 11:43:39 AM
Quote from: Borys on May 09, 2012, 04:24:27 PM
Vita won't get as low as 5k/ week as well.

Do ho ho we might be getting there sooner than you think.
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Post by: cool breeze on May 16, 2012, 11:47:39 AM
are there new game releases in Japan or is the Vita's situation more or less the same as North America? because there's a lot of nothing for us.
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Post by: Tasty on May 16, 2012, 11:48:02 AM
Quote from: Linkzg on May 16, 2012, 11:47:39 AM
are there new game releases in Japan or is the Vita's situation more or less the same as North America? because there's a lot of nothing for us.

PSP games, dude!
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Post by: archie4208 on May 16, 2012, 12:04:42 PM
RIP videogame industry.

Does anyone want to go collect some Pogs?
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Post by: Tasty on May 16, 2012, 12:10:31 PM
Quote from: archie4208 on May 16, 2012, 12:04:42 PM
RIP videogame industry.

Does anyone want to go collect some Pogs?

According to a GAFer, compared to last year total handheld sales are up. ~64k to ~65k. Guess Vita's useful for something at least.
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Post by: Stoney Mason on May 16, 2012, 01:05:42 PM
Quote from: Borys on May 16, 2012, 12:59:26 PM
Damn right you are. After Vita's incredible E3 (the first one?) I would have never, ever, ever thought it would be bombing like this. It was supposed to crush the 3DS after all and fight on level ground with iPad.

Look where it is now, lol.

This has to be trolling. I won't speak for Japan but that thing was dead as a doornail the moment it was announced for the American Market.
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Post by: maxy on May 16, 2012, 02:09:53 PM
good thing that world will end soon
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Post by: Momo on May 22, 2012, 09:01:47 AM
3DS has topped the six million mark in domestic sales, Famitsu.com reported today. According to retail tracker Enterbrain, Famitsu's publisher, the system crossed the mark this past week in its sixty-fifth week since launch.

The system's total from February 26, 2011 through May 20, 2012, is 6,017,206 units.

The previous major sales milestone for the system was the five million mark, which it crossed at the 52 week mark according to Media Create data. The system beat DS and Game Boy Advance to that milestone, making it the fastest system ever to five million.

-adriasang
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Post by: Takao on May 22, 2012, 09:24:36 AM
I always wanted to own a GameGear but was turned off by the fact it looked like it ate batteries like a fiend. Actually, I'd like to own a lot of failed handhelds just for the sake of owning them. Gizmondo had some games that I thought looked pretty cool.
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Post by: maxy on May 22, 2012, 09:25:53 AM
UK 3DS/Vita hardware data leaked

http://www.mcvuk.com/news/read/3ds-nears-uk-1m-vita-sales-slow-compared-to-psp/096434
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Nintendo’s 3DS could hit the 1m unit sales milestone next month.

PocketGamer has reported numbers from GfK Chart-Track’s exclusive hardware reports, which are widely distributed around the press but not authorised for publication.

If the machine does reach that number in June, it will mean that 3DS has taken three months longer than its predecessor the DS.

There is of course a hefty price difference to note between the two machines – the average selling price of a 3DS during its first ten weeks is £202, whereas DS was selling for just £98.

Even now, after Nintendo’s price cut, the 3DS still costs £140.

However, MCV’s figures suggest that Nintendo’s machine may struggle to reach the barrier as soon as June, owing to the increasingly stagnant UK games market.

Total global 3DS sales stood at 17.13m as of the end of March. Nintendo expects unit sales of 18.5m in the current fiscal year.

Sony, by contrast, forecasts 10m Vita unit sales in FY2013. Lifetime sales of its new handheld stand at only 1.8m.

UK Vita sales have just passed the 100,000 unit mark after ten weeks on the market. Worryingly, that’s less than a third of the number PSP shifted in the same time period, although PSP did enjoy a particularly strong start in the UK.

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According to a source, this week's Gfk Chart-Track report shows the 3DS has sold nearly 950,000 units after 61 weeks on sale.
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Post by: tiesto on May 22, 2012, 10:24:22 AM
Quote from: Takao on May 22, 2012, 09:24:36 AM
I always wanted to own a GameGear but was turned off by the fact it looked like it ate batteries like a fiend. Actually, I'd like to own a lot of failed handhelds just for the sake of owning them. Gizmondo had some games that I thought looked pretty cool.

I've been getting into GG emulation to catch up on some of what I missed. My brother owned a GG but the only games I've really played for it were Dragon Crystal (my first roguelike, never really became a fan of that genre), Sonic 2, and Defenders of Oasis (which was really good for a portable RPG of the time, great music).

Downloaded the translation of Sylvan Tale and the ROM of Ax Battler to play... Will hopefully be better than the 2 PS spinoffs for the GG, which were ass.
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Post by: Tasty on May 22, 2012, 10:27:15 AM
Quote from: Momo on May 22, 2012, 09:01:47 AM
3DS has topped the six million mark in domestic sales, Famitsu.com reported today. According to retail tracker Enterbrain, Famitsu's publisher, the system crossed the mark this past week in its sixty-fifth week since launch.

The system's total from February 26, 2011 through May 20, 2012, is 6,017,206 units.

The previous major sales milestone for the system was the five million mark, which it crossed at the 52 week mark according to Media Create data. The system beat DS and Game Boy Advance to that milestone, making it the fastest system ever to five million.

-adriasang

Nintendo = third party imminent
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Post by: Fifstar on May 22, 2012, 02:36:52 PM
I can't get rid of the feeling that Nintendo really shot themselves in the foot by naming and designing the 3DS so similar to the DS. Just confusing for parents that want something to keep the kids quiet on a car ride, why they should buy something that sounds and looks the same as 3 other iterations before. And that's not as easy to change as a price.
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Post by: cool breeze on May 22, 2012, 03:05:46 PM
yeah, it's why rumors of Wii U getting a new name aren't wild.  Nintendo cluttered homes with Wii *blank* peripherals for years.
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Post by: EmCeeGrammar on May 22, 2012, 03:09:27 PM
UK numbers suck all around though.  What a lot of people don't realise in the pal charts is that rank means very little.  Whenever we get solid numbers it turns out that things trending in the top ten are selling only a few thousand units.  The top five does only slightly better.  Kinda like the japan situation.
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Post by: Trent Dole on May 22, 2012, 03:50:49 PM
Quote from: Linkzg on May 22, 2012, 03:05:46 PM
yeah, it's why rumors of Wii U getting a new name aren't wild.  Nintendo cluttered homes with Wii *blank* peripherals for years.
Super Wii would make more sense and follow the whole back to the roots thing they were claiming to set out to do with the Wii.
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Post by: Fifstar on May 22, 2012, 04:10:35 PM
Quote from: EmCeeGrammar on May 22, 2012, 03:09:27 PM
UK numbers suck all around though.  What a lot of people don't realise in the pal charts is that rank means very little.  Whenever we get solid numbers it turns out that things trending in the top ten are selling only a few thousand units.  The top five does only slightly better.  Kinda like the japan situation.

So it's more about who long a game can stay on the charts? Or are sales in general just shit.

Regarding the 3DS numbers in the UK, considering the price difference between 3DS and DS (even after the price drop) those numbers don't look that bad. On the other hand, the original DS wasn't the hottest item either, was it?
In the end it really depends if Nintendo can develop a great update to the 3DS like the DS Lite for the DS. It's gonna be more difficult to get a similar step up, as the 3DS is, even if it's difficult to discern from the DS Lite/i/XL models, not as ugly as the original DS.
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Post by: EmCeeGrammar on May 22, 2012, 11:15:27 PM
I seem to remember that UK sales in particular are pitiful when you get to see the raw numbers instead of dubious rankings.  Its not a region that really matters in a grand scheme.  Kinda like Australia.
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Post by: Tasty on May 22, 2012, 11:54:16 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on May 22, 2012, 11:21:03 PM
Yes, they are quite low compared to, say, America or Japan, but the 3DS is falling behind the DS even in those pitiful numbers, and we haven't even hit the DS's real take-off point yet.  The 3DS has major issues to tackle in NA and EU and sticking one's head in the sand isn't going to make that go away.

Yes yes Oscar, of course. Revision + NSMB seemed to be the DS's take-off point, and we're likely reaching a similar point later this year for 3DS. I highly doubt Nintendo's buried their heads anywhere (except they ass for Wii U's name.)
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Post by: pilonv1 on May 23, 2012, 12:29:24 AM
Quote from: Andrex on May 22, 2012, 11:54:16 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on May 22, 2012, 11:21:03 PM
Yes, they are quite low compared to, say, America or Japan, but the 3DS is falling behind the DS even in those pitiful numbers, and we haven't even hit the DS's real take-off point yet.  The 3DS has major issues to tackle in NA and EU and sticking one's head in the sand isn't going to make that go away.

Yes yes Oscar, of course. Revision + NSMB seemed to be the DS's take-off point, and we're likely reaching a similar point later this year for 3DS. I highly doubt Nintendo's buried their heads anywhere (except they ass for Wii U's name.)

Sounds like you're discounting what Oscar mentioned, the way Nintendo Dogs + Brain Training brought in female/older gamers. I'd argue (outside NA) that they were bigger factors than the revision + NSMB. And all three coming together is the type of lightning in a bottle that you can't replicate. That audience has moved on to smartphones, tablets and facebook gaming.
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Post by: Takao on May 23, 2012, 12:39:02 AM
Hey garbage can man, the game's ancient and the studio who made it is dead, so could you tell me how poorly Folklore sold in North America? Apparently the poor result here was the reason it never became a series (though the game didn't exactly do well in Japan based off the numbers I've seen), and given it came out closer to the $599 era PS3 than the $299 era I'm expecting sub 50k.
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Post by: Takao on May 23, 2012, 01:02:01 AM
Wow, nearly 150k in North America? That's actually pretty good, and I'd expect well beyond dreck like WKC (thankfully). Some guy on GAF said he worked for Game Republic and that they pitched a sequel to Sony, but SCE turned it down because the game didn't sell well enough here. I don't know how they could say 150k are poor sales for this region. It's the only region the game never got a budget reprint in. I take it the game had a long tail? I remember it being on a list of the lowest selling PS3 games SCE published in North America. Now, I have to imagine that list is filled with Move games.
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Post by: Cerveza mas fina on May 23, 2012, 03:51:15 AM
Quote from: EmCeeGrammar on May 22, 2012, 11:15:27 PM
I seem to remember that UK sales in particular are pitiful when you get to see the raw numbers instead of dubious rankings.  Its not a region that really matters in a grand scheme.  Kinda like Australia.

UK is a region?  ???

Its one country in Europe.

Do you people go to school?
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Post by: Takao on May 23, 2012, 08:00:22 AM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on May 23, 2012, 02:23:37 AM
WKC sold a little more, but only a little.

I have to ask what the fuck SCEA is doing when an unadvertised game that took like a year and a half to leave Japan and launched within weeks of Resonance of Fate, and FFXIII still ended up doing 150k, and they pass up the already translated sequel....
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Post by: pilonv1 on May 23, 2012, 08:08:32 AM
Luckily no one said Ireland was part of the UK.
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Post by: Momo on May 23, 2012, 08:40:45 AM
Quote from: pilonv1 on May 23, 2012, 08:08:32 AM
Luckily no one said Ireland was part of the UK.
Yeah but you have like Republic of Ireland, Northern Ireland, South West Ireland, Around-the-corner-from-the-seven-eleven Ireland. It's not like you would have known they were specifically talking about the republic. 
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Post by: archie4208 on May 23, 2012, 09:21:42 AM
http://www.vg247.com/2012/05/23/diablo-iii-sells-6-3-million-in-first-week-3-5-million-in-first-24-hours/

PC gaming no longer dead.  :bow2
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Post by: Momo on May 23, 2012, 09:24:25 AM
Probably a bunch more will pick it up as they play out the friend pass content
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Post by: Great Rumbler on May 23, 2012, 10:25:18 AM
Quote from: archie4208 on May 23, 2012, 09:21:42 AM
http://www.vg247.com/2012/05/23/diablo-iii-sells-6-3-million-in-first-week-3-5-million-in-first-24-hours/

PC gaming no longer dead.  :bow2

:bow
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Post by: Tasty on May 23, 2012, 11:10:56 AM
Vita 6,347

Up by seven this week. Watch out Nintendo!

Am I wrong in thinking that it should have gone up a couple thousand more? I mean, does the post-GW gulch only last one week or is it longer?
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Post by: Tasty on May 23, 2012, 11:30:31 AM
Also the Persona 2 PSP remake bombed, apparently.
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Post by: cool breeze on May 23, 2012, 11:43:25 AM
I like that Andrex only posts negative Sony sales each week  :lol


Didn't Persona 2 for PSP already come out? I'm sure I saw it on PSN once
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Post by: Great Rumbler on May 23, 2012, 11:46:22 AM
Quote from: Linkzg on May 23, 2012, 11:43:25 AM
Didn't Persona 2 for PSP already come out? I'm sure I saw it on PSN once

Innocent Sin did, but this is Eternal Punishment.

It sold 25,000 in it's first week, by the way.
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Post by: Tasty on May 23, 2012, 11:52:40 AM
Wondering how much of an impact P4G will have... It'll probably bomb too, but at least it will bump the Vita up. I mean, it can't stay at these levels with a game released, can it?

Quote from: Linkzg on May 23, 2012, 11:43:25 AM
I like that Andrex only posts negative Sony sales each week  :lol

 :-*

It's the stuff I know everyone else is interested in.
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Post by: EmCeeGrammar on May 23, 2012, 11:53:51 AM
Yeah, I used to live in the UK, I know the fucking score.   Pollacks embarassing themselves again.
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Post by: cool breeze on May 23, 2012, 11:54:19 AM
Quote from: Great Rumbler on May 23, 2012, 11:46:22 AM
Quote from: Linkzg on May 23, 2012, 11:43:25 AM
Didn't Persona 2 for PSP already come out? I'm sure I saw it on PSN once

Innocent Sin did, but this is Eternal Punishment.

It sold 25,000 in it's first week, by the way.

reading wiki, Eternal Punishment is Persona 2 on PS1 in America.  Innocent Sin PS1 never came out stateside and is the Persona 2 on PSP.  It's weird that the second of the two came to America first.  At least if Eternal Punishment PSP isn't brought over, the PS1 game could go up on PSN.

 
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Post by: Big Barry Jazz on May 23, 2012, 11:55:28 AM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on May 23, 2012, 11:49:01 AM
Number one game of the week is My Little Sister Can't Be This Cute 2 for PSP.

If I were to check what this game was about would some law agency add my name to a list?
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Post by: Takao on May 23, 2012, 11:57:27 AM
Persona 4: The Golden will likely do pretty well. While this means very little, it's ranked pretty high on preorder charts and is one of the top games on Famitsu's Most Wanted list. The older Persona games just aren't that popular compared to the P3/P4 era.
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Post by: Great Rumbler on May 23, 2012, 12:05:01 PM
Persona 3 PSP did 94k first week and 224k overall back in 2009. Of course, Persona 1 PSP did 79k first week and 123k overall in 2009 and Persona 2 Innocent Sin PSP did 62k first week and 94k overall just last year, so Eternal Punishment is incredibly low even by the standards of the other PS1 Personas.
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Post by: The Sceneman on May 23, 2012, 12:05:20 PM
lol Taco
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Post by: Takao on May 23, 2012, 12:07:58 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on May 23, 2012, 12:02:24 PM
Thanks for paraphrasing my post, Taco-chan.  That was super helpful.  Cuz we're on a new page.

Haha, sorry. I was typing that out before your post showed up.
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Post by: Stoney Mason on May 23, 2012, 09:00:44 PM
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Both official statements and anonymous whispers suggest Kingdoms of Amalur: Reckoning developer 38 Studios is seriously on the rocks, with employees going uncompensated and management resignations.


According to Joystiq‘s sources, 38 Studios employees have not been paid since May 1.

Staffers are normally paid twice a month. The source also noted that employee health care is expected to close down at midnight on Thursday.

The source was uncertain as to whether the studio would close but said the outlook is bleak.

At a press conference following an EDC meeting with 38 Studios founder Curt Schilling, as reported by NBC 10′s Brian Crandall, Rhode Island governor Lincoln Chafee said experts had advised him Kingdoms of Amalur: Reckoning was a “flop” and definitely “not successful“.

The developer’s senior staff are said to be quitting, with former CEO Jennifer MacLean confirming her departure.

Chafee said he’s doing everything possible to prevent the company’s closure.

The Providence Journal reports 38 Studios has applied for “millions of dollars” in film tax credits but has not yet received the funding; it has also drawn a blank with external investment.
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Post by: Great Rumbler on May 23, 2012, 09:16:20 PM
Sounds like they banked way too hard on pulling in a few guys with deep pockets and then found out that nobody was interested. Too bad, too, because Amalur wasn't half bad.
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Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on May 23, 2012, 09:59:58 PM
I fell asleep just looking at screens of Amalur.  It looked like generic westaboo crap.
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Post by: Stoney Mason on May 23, 2012, 11:03:32 PM
Quote from: Great Rumbler on May 23, 2012, 09:16:20 PM
Sounds like they banked way too hard on pulling in a few guys with deep pockets and then found out that nobody was interested. Too bad, too, because Amalur wasn't half bad.

Terrible name. Very little marketing. But let's get to the truth. Bethesda had a stranglehold on this genre even before this and especially after Skyrim. There is no reason to make a big budget wanna be Skryrim unless you are going to market the shit out of it which is all kinds of risky, or have it be budget euro style.
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Post by: Takao on May 23, 2012, 11:06:26 PM
Wasn't Amalur an EA partners title? Has any of those, minus Valve, ever been successful?
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Post by: Great Rumbler on May 23, 2012, 11:23:01 PM
Quote from: Stoney Mason on May 23, 2012, 11:03:32 PM
Quote from: Great Rumbler on May 23, 2012, 09:16:20 PM
Sounds like they banked way too hard on pulling in a few guys with deep pockets and then found out that nobody was interested. Too bad, too, because Amalur wasn't half bad.

Terrible name. Very little marketing. But let's get to the truth. Bethesda had a stranglehold on this genre even before this and especially after Skyrim. There is no reason to make a big budget wanna be Skryrim unless you are going to market the shit out of it which is all kinds of risky, or have it be budget euro style.

Amalur's not really that much like Skyrim, though, it's more like a single-player World of Warcraft.
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Post by: Stoney Mason on May 23, 2012, 11:25:52 PM
Quote from: Great Rumbler on May 23, 2012, 11:23:01 PM
Quote from: Stoney Mason on May 23, 2012, 11:03:32 PM
Quote from: Great Rumbler on May 23, 2012, 09:16:20 PM
Sounds like they banked way too hard on pulling in a few guys with deep pockets and then found out that nobody was interested. Too bad, too, because Amalur wasn't half bad.

Terrible name. Very little marketing. But let's get to the truth. Bethesda had a stranglehold on this genre even before this and especially after Skyrim. There is no reason to make a big budget wanna be Skryrim unless you are going to market the shit out of it which is all kinds of risky, or have it be budget euro style.

Amalur's not really that much like Skyrim, though, it's more like a single-player World of Warcraft.

Which is even worse because nobody wants to play single player World of Warcraft.
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Post by: Momo on May 24, 2012, 01:42:34 AM
Kingdom of Amalur is a thing and it actually came out? I only recall hearing about it last year some time then never again :lol
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Post by: Cerveza mas fina on May 24, 2012, 03:50:38 AM
Single player WoW would have been cool if it was WoW.
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Post by: tiesto on May 24, 2012, 08:41:23 AM
I never played Amalur, I heard that it wasn't too bad if you can get it cheap and have nothing better to play. I hate the art direction though, looks like WOW which I always thought was a hideous looking game...
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Post by: Positive Touch on May 24, 2012, 10:03:35 AM
all i know was the game was so generic, ugly, and boring that i couldn't even finish the fucking demo.
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Post by: Great Rumbler on May 24, 2012, 10:04:21 AM
Quote from: Green Man on May 24, 2012, 09:59:38 AM
The thing that really annoys me about Amalur is that I got the impression that this was once a fairly unique game that 38 Studios stepped in and said "make it like this to match our MMO" and it became a really boring game with a lifeless world and a story you don't care about. What's more annoying is that it looks NOTHING like the MMO, so what the fuck was the point?

Yeah, Amalur's biggest problem was how bland and boring the world, story, and art direction are.
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Post by: Stoney Mason on May 24, 2012, 04:48:25 PM
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Report: 38 Studios Lays Off Entire Staff
Is the Amalur studio shutting its doors?
by Andrew Goldfarb MAY 24, 2012

Following recent financial problems, reports are indicating that the entire staff of 38 Studios has been laid off.

According to Kotaku, Big Huge Games was shut down by 38 Studios earlier today. Following that news, The Verge reports that 38 has let go its entire staff.

For now these reports are unconfirmed, but we’ve reached out to 38 Studios to try to clarify the situation. In addition to the release of Kingdoms of Amalur: Reckoning in February, 38 recently revealed its MMO, Project Copernicus.

We’ll continue to update this story as we learn new information.

RIP Big Huge Games.

Rise of Nations was the only rts I ever liked.
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Post by: Great Rumbler on May 24, 2012, 04:51:00 PM
That was quick.
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Post by: pilonv1 on May 24, 2012, 08:08:28 PM
Quote from: Great Rumbler on May 24, 2012, 04:51:00 PM
That was quick.

http://gamasutra.com/view/news/171015/38_Studios_Big_Huge_Games_lay_off_their_entire_staff.php

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[Update: During a Rhode Island press conference this afternoon, Governor Lincoln Chafee said that 38 Studios ran into such dire financial trouble in part because Kingdoms of Amalur: Reckoning failed to live up to expectations.

"The game failed," Chafee said, noting that in order to break even, the game needed to sell more than 3 million copies, and it unfortunately did not come close to hitting that lofty goal.]

Who in their right mind would have thought this was a good business model? The desire for everyone to have a AAA title is killing developers.
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Post by: Takao on May 24, 2012, 08:46:56 PM
Wow, more than 3 million. Few games can reach that milestone, and even fewer from an upstart studio. I have to question the sanity of the management staff to allow budgets that would require those numbers.
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Post by: Timber on May 24, 2012, 08:51:35 PM
The actual sales of Amalur (1.5m or something?) would have been enough to keep Big Huge alive and well if they didn't have to support the bloated 38 Studios and their chasing-the-big-2006-MMOney pipedream as well.
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Post by: Timber on May 24, 2012, 08:55:35 PM
> Get loan of 75 mil under the condition that your company has to employ 450 people by 2013.
> Release absolutely nothing for years on end except for a modest financial success from a sattelite studio.
> Slowly come to realize that you have to pay the wages of hundreds of people and pay off your loan without a steady source of income.
> Welp!
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Great Rumbler on May 24, 2012, 08:58:30 PM
Quote from: Timber on May 24, 2012, 08:51:35 PM
The actual sales of Amalur (1.5m or something?)

That sounds about right. It did 410k in the US in the first two months, through in a few digital sales, Europe, and some unsold copies sitting on store shelves and it probably comes out to around that.

Edit:

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Any new intellectual property has it hard these days, but Kingdoms of Amalur: Reckoning seems to be doing okay with 410,000 copies sold in the US since launching a couple months back. WPRI.com reports the RPG from 38 Studios and Big Huge Games moved another 80,000 units in March, according to NPD data.

As NPD spokesman David Riley notes, it's "an impressive figure for just two months, no matter how you slice it."

It's even more impressive when one takes into consideration the data only covers the US and doesn't tally PC sales made through digital distribution networks (as EA recently stressed). In that case, the Reckoning portion of the Amalur franchise is doing well for a new IP.

http://www.joystiq.com/2012/04/18/kingdoms-of-amalur-reckoning-sales-surpass-410-000/

Whoops!
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Post by: D3RANG3D on May 24, 2012, 09:03:24 PM
The game is still 60 bucks on steam lol
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Post by: Great Rumbler on May 24, 2012, 10:08:49 PM
I got it for $30 on Amazon [boxed version].
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Post by: D3RANG3D on May 24, 2012, 11:00:56 PM
Quote from: Great Rumbler on May 24, 2012, 10:08:49 PM
I got it for $30 on Amazon [boxed version].

I wouldn't pay more than 5-10 bucks for it personally it should have come with a sleeping bag preorder bonus :zzz
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Tasty on May 25, 2012, 01:37:57 AM
via Dalthian on GAF: "There might not be a single Vita title that sold even 1,000 units this week. Wow."
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Post by: Takao on May 25, 2012, 01:48:16 AM
Quote from: Andrex on May 25, 2012, 01:37:57 AM
via Dalthian on GAF: "There might not be a single Vita title that sold even 1,000 units this week. Wow."

I take it this is from a Media Create thread? That's not surprising given the last kind of sort of not really notable game it received was that Gust waifu in the kitchen thing.
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Post by: Cerveza mas fina on May 25, 2012, 03:27:13 AM
Man Sony needs to step shit up.
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Post by: Takao on May 25, 2012, 08:31:06 AM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on May 25, 2012, 05:48:49 AM
Actually, judging by the drop in sales from the first to the second, Dissidia probably wouldn't do much for the Vita.  And Type Zero was a bit of a fail in terms of sales, so I think that's the wrong tree to bark up as well.  If we're looking at what really worked for the PSP, we're again back around to Monster Hunter.  I guess it might be worth seeing if something like Crisis Core could strike twice as well, but I have a feeling the returns would be greatly diminished on that as well.  Throw in a Metal Gear and a Kingdom Hearts and that's pretty much the top 10 PSP sellers in Japan covered.

Dissidia 012 was hurt by the fact many felt it was an expansion and not a true sequel. I don't believe any sequel has the ability to sell 1 million copies in Japan like the original (+budget and re-releases), but I'd expect higher results than 012.

From what Nomura said it sounds like if Vita were to ever get a KH, it's going to be a port. Same goes with KojiPro as Vita supports Fox Engine and that transfarring bullshit.

Quote from: Borys on May 25, 2012, 05:54:28 AM
So why doesn't Sony pay Capcom for MH on Vita? Because Nintendo paid more? Or is there some bad blood between the two?

There are only two current platforms Capcom has never made an exclusive for. Both just happen to be Sony platforms. Take from that what you will.
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Post by: Takao on May 25, 2012, 08:43:05 AM
Quote from: Borys on May 25, 2012, 08:39:27 AM
Quote from: Takao on May 25, 2012, 08:31:06 AM
There are only two current platforms Capcom has never made an exclusive for. Both just happen to be Sony platforms. Take from that what you will.

Capcom hates shitty sales?

Capcom has had shitty sales on PS3? News to me.
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Post by: EmCeeGrammar on May 26, 2012, 05:41:01 PM
There isnt a monster hunter on vita because one certain company wanted to make sure they had that crutch instead at the expense of sony.
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Post by: Stoney Mason on May 29, 2012, 10:51:17 AM
What a trainwreck.

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Schilling: Investor for Reckoning sequel pulled out over “devastating” comments made by RI governor
Curt Schilling has told The Providence Journal he could end up losing $50 million of his own money due to his studio’s failure, furthermore claiming comments Rhode Island governor Lincoln Chafee made regarding the firm were “devastating,” and “scared offSchilling said he invested $50 million of his person fortune into the studio, and $50 million of a planned $75 million loan which was co-signed by Rhode Island was thrown into development Project Copernicus – confirming comments made by a source close to the matter yesterday.

Schilling also confirmed yesterday’s rumor that a sequel to Kingdoms of Amalur: Reckoning was in the works with a private investor on board for it. However, due to the governor’s comments, the investor dropped out of the deal, taking its $35 million with it.

He also told the paper that state economic-development officials “reneged on a deal to approve film tax credits,” which he said 38 Studios was legally entitled to which would allow the firm to defer the $1.12-million payment due the state on May 1. Because of this, the studio was unable to pay its employees and ended up laying off 291 employees in Rhode Island and 100 others in its Maryland office.
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Post by: etiolate on May 29, 2012, 05:18:55 PM
The images for their MMO look nice. Tough to say how far along it truly was.
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Post by: AdmiralViscen on May 29, 2012, 06:26:03 PM
$35 million for a sequel to a b list game?
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Post by: Huff on May 29, 2012, 09:40:46 PM
Quote from: AdmiralViscen on May 29, 2012, 06:26:03 PM
$35 million for a sequel to a b list game?

Pretty much the standard for a console game these days isn't it?
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Post by: Owl-faced Wizard on May 29, 2012, 10:35:42 PM
That Schilling is 50 million poorer makes me feel positively giddy.
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Post by: Takao on May 29, 2012, 10:43:52 PM
Segata, what is Ignition's best selling game in the US? Deadly Premonition? Muramasa? El Shaddai?
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Post by: Takao on May 29, 2012, 10:57:49 PM
They've published a lot more (http://www.gamefaqs.com/features/company/72290.html) than I was expecting. For your sanity, do not look for all those games, lol.

Edit: Oh shit, El Shaddai's a enormous bomba then. I'm surprised it's even getting a social game.
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Post by: iconoclast on May 29, 2012, 11:13:04 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on May 29, 2012, 11:00:06 PM
Yes, El Shaddai was a very, very, very big bomba.

Good. Playing El Shaddai and Duke Nukem at the same time last year was a miserable experience. Then I realized I should stop playing garbage games and lived happily ever after.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Takao on May 29, 2012, 11:19:54 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on May 29, 2012, 11:08:38 PM
So far the winner is Mercury Meltdown Revolution on the Wii.

K, yeah, just checked all the likely candidates, and it's Mercury Meltdown Revolution on the Wii by a country mile.  Second is the Metal Slug Anthology on the Wii, and third is Muramasa.

So Wii was nice to a niche publisher after all, huh.

Is Klonoa Wii under 15k in the US?
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Post by: Pringo on May 30, 2012, 03:43:24 PM
Weekly Japanese sales are up:

Media Create Sales: Week 21, 2012 (May 21 - May 27)

01./00. [PS3] Dragon's Dogma (Capcom) - 302,040 / NEW
02./00. [3DS] Mario Tennis Open (Nintendo) - 101,645 / NEW
03./00. [PSP] Uta no * Prince-Sama: Debut (Ah! My Prince's Song: Debut) (Broccoli) - 61,376 / NEW
04./00. [360] Dragon's Dogma (Capcom) - 29,024 / NEW
05./02. [WII] Mario Party 9 (Nintendo) - 20,820 / 380,763 (-17%)
06./00. [PS3] The Idolm@ster: Gravure For You! Vol. 8 (Namco Bandai) - 16,670 / NEW
07./04. [3DS] Fire Emblem: Awakening (Nintendo) - 14,642 / 391,345 (-2%)
08./00. [PSP] Jyuzaengi: Engetsu Sangokuden (Idea Factory) - 11,627 / NEW
09./00. [360] Monster Hunter Frontier (Online Forward 4 Premium Package) (Capcom) - 9,893 / NEW
10./06. [3DS] Super Mario Land 3D (Nintendo) - 9,858 / 1,595,096 (-6%)
11./00. [3DS] G1 Grand Prix (Genki) - 9,821 / NEW
12./00. [PS3] Steins; Gate Double Pack (5pb) - 9,223 / NEW
13./08. [3DS] Monster Hunter 3 G (Capcom) - 7,849 / 1,458,658 (-6%)
14./07. [3DS] Mario Kart 7 (Nintendo) - 7,648 / 1,720,566 (-11%)
15./01. [PSP] My Sister Can't Be This Cute Portable Can't Possibly Continue (Namco Bandai) - 6,753 / 59,929 (-87%)
16./00. [PSP] Elminage Gothic: Ulm Zakir to Yami no Gishiki (Ritual of Darkness and Ulm Zakir) (Starfish SD) - 6,169 / NEW
17./00. [PSV] Samurai & Dragons (SEGA) - 6,072 / NEW
18./00. [PS3] Steins; Gate: Hiyoku Renri no Darling (5pb) - 5,397 / NEW
19./00. [360] Mushihimesama (Cave) - 5,135 / NEW
20./03. [PSP] Persona 2: Eternal Punishment (Atlus Co.) - 4,885 / 29,431 (-80%)

3DS - 6
PSP - 5
PS3 - 4
360 - 3
PSV - 1
WII - 1

Code: [Select]
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|System |  This Week  |  Last Week  |        YTD  |         LTD  |
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|  3DS  |     55,212  |     45,752  |  1,774,655  |   6,056,799  |
|  PS3  |     14,771  |     12,026  |    558,532  |   8,194,918  |
|  PSP  |     10,617  |     10,652  |    393,729  |  19,123,091  |
|  PSV  |      6,675  |      6,347  |    270,135  |     710,120  |
|  WII  |      6,149  |      5,956  |    224,295  |  12,387,516  |
|  360  |      3,069  |        825  |     32,259  |   1,568,303  |
|  NDS  |      1,059  |      1,108  |     39,634  |  32,848,119  |
|  PS2  |      1,027  |      1,166  |     24,889  |  21,798,996  |
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| DSiLL |        628  |        683  |     22,778  |   2,317,096  |
|  DSi  |        431  |        425  |     16,856  |   5,850,908  |
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Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Third on May 30, 2012, 04:12:53 PM
Can't believe how much Vita has flopped so far. Sony should do something about it.

A $100 procedrop AT LEAST

And I also can't believe how shitty vintage hardware such as the 3DS has become a success. People are such distinguished mentally-challenged fellows for not waiting for the revision. The current 3DS is a total mess.
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Post by: Mr. Gundam on May 30, 2012, 04:30:38 PM
Dragon's Dogma did a lot better than I thought it would. Huh.

That's too bad about El Shaddai. I honestly enjoyed the game.
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Post by: Cerveza mas fina on May 30, 2012, 05:38:58 PM
Vita is really really awesome.
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Post by: Huff on May 30, 2012, 05:45:52 PM
Is that good enough for DD? Capcom put all their eggs in that basket
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Post by: Takao on May 30, 2012, 06:47:21 PM
Capcom has said some crazy cray shit regarding Dragon's Bomba. Given they devoted a huge chunk of Capcom's internal staff on the project for years I'm guessing it wasn't cheap. That said, I believe they should be able to make their modest predictions for the game (which I believed was like 1.5 million worldwide), whether or not they make money off that is a different story.
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Post by: Takao on May 31, 2012, 12:10:44 AM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on May 30, 2012, 10:55:21 PM
Erm, that's an outstanding debut for Dragon's Dogma.  The only fully new IPs that have passed that in taco-chan's (estimated at 12 years) lifetime have been DMC and Onimusha.  The high fives at Capcom must be palpable today.

I did not say the Japanese figures were bad. I said this game's likely very expensive, and at this point it's very likely it will surpass Capcom's WW expectations. I was questioning whether or not they'd be able to make money on the project with those expectations. Of course maybe I shouldn't be questioning something that is never going to be public knowledge.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Stoney Mason on June 03, 2012, 11:15:11 PM
http://www.ign.com/articles/2012/06/03/epic-games-saves-kingdoms-of-amalur-developer
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Bebpo on June 03, 2012, 11:19:20 PM
That's a very good thing.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: AdmiralViscen on June 05, 2012, 08:39:40 AM
What's origins?
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Post by: Joe Molotov on June 05, 2012, 08:46:30 AM
Quote from: AdmiralViscen on June 05, 2012, 08:39:40 AM
What's origins?

PS3 collection of the PSP games.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Stoney Mason on June 07, 2012, 01:42:41 PM
 


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Though the Ultimate Fighting Franchise games appeared to be one of THQ's few successes, the company says it sold the brand's exclusive license to Electronic Arts because it failed to break even on the latest release.

THQ management told Wedbush analyst Michael Pachter that UFC Undisputed 3, which released for Xbox 360 and PlayStation in February, fell short of hitting its break-even point of 2 million copies sold.

That was in spite of UFC Undisputed 3 becoming the third biggest-selling game in the U.S. in February, and THQ previously noting the title received better-than-expected sales. The series' second most recent release, UFC Undisputed 2010, also underperformed.

After holding the exclusive license to publish UFC games for several years, THQ sold the contract to EA recently -- the transfer resulted in an unspecified number of layoffs at THQ's San Diego studio, which worked on the franchise.

THQ will focus now on breaking even on a title-by-title basis by releasing low-cost triple-A titles, such as Obsidian Entertainment's South Park: The Stick of Truth, which will release next March.

South Park requires a relatively smaller investment than other titles due to its simple animation. That project's break-even point is also 2 million units, though the publisher believes it can sell well above that, THQ told Pachter.

THQ also intends to enter the free-to-play market and make it a significant portion of the company's business in the future, particularly with the next generation of home consoles.

 :lol
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Post by: Joe Molotov on June 07, 2012, 01:44:13 PM
THQ just can't wait to go out of business.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Takao on June 07, 2012, 01:58:35 PM
2 million before you even start to make money?

What the fuck is wrong with you THQ...
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Mupepe on June 07, 2012, 02:42:33 PM
dat licensing fee
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Himu on June 07, 2012, 02:47:47 PM
to be fair, I think the game will do REALLY well. maybe 5 million units.
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Post by: Owl-faced Wizard on June 07, 2012, 02:53:01 PM
Quote from: Stringer Bell on June 07, 2012, 02:47:47 PM
to be fair, I think the game will do REALLY well. maybe 5 million units.

no
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Himu on June 07, 2012, 03:08:17 PM
how well did past south park games do? I know as a big SP fan, this is the first SP game to ever interest me
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Stoney Mason on June 07, 2012, 03:15:31 PM
Quote from: Stringer Bell on June 07, 2012, 02:47:47 PM
to be fair, I think the game will do REALLY well. maybe 5 million units.

You see that chart up there that says how many copies God of War has sold world wide.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Himu on June 07, 2012, 03:19:31 PM
You don't think South Park rpg can sell 5m ww? South Park is a huge brand and this is being made by a premiere developer.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Joe Molotov on June 07, 2012, 03:24:34 PM
Is South Park even a thing outside of the US? That's not a rhetorical question, I really don't know.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: archie4208 on June 07, 2012, 03:38:53 PM
It might have sold 2 million units in 1999.  No way it'll reach that now and days.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Stoney Mason on June 07, 2012, 03:39:22 PM
Quote from: Stringer Bell on June 07, 2012, 03:19:31 PM
You don't think South Park rpg can sell 5m ww? South Park is a huge brand and this is being made by a premiere developer.

I can't tell if this is sarcasm but in case it isn't I'll humour you.

1.) RPG's outside of bioware and bethesda generally don't sell.
2.) I honestly don't think South Park is a mega franchise at this point in its history. This isn't 10 years ago.
3.) Obsidian is not a "premiere" developer in any sense of that word imo but whatever.

It's one thing to be interested in the game. Which is separate from sales stuff.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Momo on June 07, 2012, 03:53:01 PM
South park game will sell 1.3 milliion WW at best
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on June 07, 2012, 04:07:12 PM
Quote from: Borys on June 07, 2012, 03:32:05 PM
Kinda known in Europe but less than Beavis and Butthead.

Spoken like a 40 year old. People younger then 25 never heard of Beavis and Butthead.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Himu on June 07, 2012, 04:08:15 PM
Quote from: Joe Molotov® EDGE™ on June 07, 2012, 03:24:34 PM
Is South Park even a thing outside of the US? That's not a rhetorical question, I really don't know.

Shaka Khan knows about it and he's from the UAE!
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Momo on June 07, 2012, 04:16:24 PM
Even kids and adults in Africa knows South Park, but the license isn't a big draw anymore. It's probably going to sell as much as those Iron Man movie tie in games sell if I'm being generous.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Momo on June 07, 2012, 04:17:08 PM
Did Futurama ever get a game? I figure it would be around that level.
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Post by: Fifstar on June 07, 2012, 04:19:08 PM
South park is well known in europe but I really doubt that people want an rpg set in the south park universe.
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Post by: Takao on June 07, 2012, 04:48:44 PM
Quote from: Momo on June 07, 2012, 04:17:08 PM
Did Futurama ever get a game? I figure it would be around that level.

It did on PS2. I think it was the last game Fox Interactive published before closing :lol
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Momo on June 07, 2012, 05:15:16 PM
Oh Lord, this futurama game :lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dS-avRCA72o
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Joe Molotov on June 07, 2012, 05:33:53 PM
I bought it because Futurama got cancelled and I had a sad. The cutscenes were okay (they were scripted by the show writers and had all the voice actors) but the gameplay was stanky.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: pilonv1 on June 07, 2012, 07:43:34 PM
The Futurama game was ball breakingly hard at points. But as Joe says the best part was watching the cutscenes together as a new episode.

I think the South Park game will do ok, as stated above it's not 10 years ago when it was at it's peak (popularity wise).
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Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on June 07, 2012, 09:31:20 PM
I think South Park can break 2 million units if it is "South Park" enough.  Not like those shitty N64 era games.  It needs to look and feel like an episode of South Park, except you're controlling the characters.

For what its worth, it is based off of one of the most popular episodes in the series, which is a plus.  In the era of cheap nostalgia of things just a few years old, I think that whether the show is at its peak popularity or not won't matter.

I don't care what it sells: I'm going to get it, probably day one.  It was one of the few E3 games that I actually gave a shit about.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: originalz on June 08, 2012, 12:19:46 AM
Haha, the South Park N64 games were so goddamn bad.  I had the PC version of the FPS game, holy hell was it boring.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Momo on June 08, 2012, 12:27:50 AM
Quote from: The Experiment on June 07, 2012, 09:31:20 PM
I don't care what it sells: I'm going to get it
Same here, it should be more fun than whichever mainstream cover shooter is debuting that month
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Takao on June 08, 2012, 12:54:18 AM
Quote from: originalz on June 08, 2012, 12:19:46 AM
Haha, the South Park N64 games were so goddamn bad.  I had the PC version of the FPS game, holy hell was it boring.

you mean you don't love pissing in snowballs
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Momo on June 08, 2012, 01:38:35 AM
It's next gen, they need porn snowballs to be extreme
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Post by: chronovore on June 08, 2012, 03:31:27 AM
Quote from: Stoney Mason on June 07, 2012, 01:42:41 PM



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Though the Ultimate Fighting Franchise games appeared to be one of THQ's few successes, the company says it sold the brand's exclusive license to Electronic Arts because it failed to break even on the latest release.

THQ management told Wedbush analyst Michael Pachter that UFC Undisputed 3, which released for Xbox 360 and PlayStation in February, fell short of hitting its break-even point of 2 million copies sold.

That was in spite of UFC Undisputed 3 becoming the third biggest-selling game in the U.S. in February, and THQ previously noting the title received better-than-expected sales. The series' second most recent release, UFC Undisputed 2010, also underperformed.

After holding the exclusive license to publish UFC games for several years, THQ sold the contract to EA recently -- the transfer resulted in an unspecified number of layoffs at THQ's San Diego studio, which worked on the franchise.

THQ will focus now on breaking even on a title-by-title basis by releasing low-cost triple-A titles, such as Obsidian Entertainment's South Park: The Stick of Truth, which will release next March.

South Park requires a relatively smaller investment than other titles due to its simple animation. That project's break-even point is also 2 million units, though the publisher believes it can sell well above that, THQ told Pachter.

THQ also intends to enter the free-to-play market and make it a significant portion of the company's business in the future, particularly with the next generation of home consoles.

 :lol

Was there ever any official announcement that the San Diego studio was working on UFC, or was this cancellation the first the public had heard of it?
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Post by: pilonv1 on June 08, 2012, 04:40:35 AM
Wasn't San Diego the WWE All-Stars team? They came from Midway after working on the TNA game.
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Post by: chronovore on June 08, 2012, 05:21:20 AM
Quote from: pilonv1 on June 08, 2012, 04:40:35 AM
Wasn't San Diego the WWE All-Stars team? They came from Midway after working on the TNA game.

Yeah, that was them. I just never saw anything official in the news that said anything about San Diego working on it and, by implication, Yuke's not-working-on-it.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: T-Short on June 08, 2012, 07:08:12 AM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on June 08, 2012, 05:22:26 AM
Just to put things in perspective, the generally well-received Simpsons Movie game failed to break 500k in NA on 360/PS3 combined.

Bu bu what about Simpsons Hit 'n Run?
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Takao on June 08, 2012, 09:52:25 AM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on June 08, 2012, 05:22:26 AM
Just to put things in perspective, the generally well-received Simpsons Movie game failed to break 500k in NA on 360/PS3 combined.

THQ is so fucked. I guess Jason Rubin just wants to go down with a sinking ship.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: originalz on June 08, 2012, 10:10:00 PM
I like how even though they admit UFC sold better than expected, it failed to meet expectations.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Joe Molotov on June 09, 2012, 07:39:39 AM
Quote from: originalz on June 08, 2012, 10:10:00 PM
I like how even though they admit UFC sold better than expected, it failed to meet expectations.

INCEPTION
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Momo on June 09, 2012, 07:51:25 AM
Planning to lose money. Now Exclusive to THQ*.


*SEGA signed over their part of the patents
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on June 09, 2012, 08:06:13 AM
Quote from: originalz on June 08, 2012, 10:10:00 PM
I like how even though they admit UFC sold better than expected, it failed to meet expectations.

I thought the same. How can something sell better then you expect but you still lose money on it?  :lol
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on June 09, 2012, 05:15:21 PM
Since this is a sales thread and all, here's a link to Dreamcast hardware and software sales as of 2003:

http://www.goodcowfilms.com/farm/basement/ga-archive/sega-dc-sales-03-04-2003.htm

As a former Segafag and Dreamcast evangelist, these numbers are pretty sobering.  I was at Blast City when the Dreamcast was out and remembered all of the talk about how super successful the system was until its surprise and sudden cancellation.  In hindsight, it was a huge fucking failure.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Momo on June 09, 2012, 05:25:13 PM
I'm still pretty much a Segafan, no not pretty much, still am.

Those numbers in isolation is kind of a weird metric of success, it excludes the two other big regions and we have no idea what kind of budgets DC games were made on. Also was the hardware side profitable for them? I always figured the hardware side is what killed SEGA (assumed they went razorblade). I was way too young to be into the sales side then. I own(ed) 4 dreamcasts, 2 Saturns, 4/5 Mega Drives, 1 Sega CD, 1 32 X, 1 Master System and 1 Game Gear  so I was pretty far gone up until it came crashing down :lol
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Takao on June 09, 2012, 05:41:19 PM
Do you guys know if there's a list like that for GBA games?
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Post by: Oblivion on June 09, 2012, 09:42:26 PM
So it was like a North Korean rocket?
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Post by: Sho Nuff on June 09, 2012, 10:32:58 PM
Good god @ the dismal DC software sales. Had no idea they were that bad.
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Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on June 09, 2012, 11:22:36 PM
Quote from: Momo on June 09, 2012, 05:25:13 PM
I'm still pretty much a Segafan, no not pretty much, still am.

Those numbers in isolation is kind of a weird metric of success, it excludes the two other big regions and we have no idea what kind of budgets DC games were made on. Also was the hardware side profitable for them? I always figured the hardware side is what killed SEGA (assumed they went razorblade). I was way too young to be into the sales side then. I own(ed) 4 dreamcasts, 2 Saturns, 4/5 Mega Drives, 1 Sega CD, 1 32 X, 1 Master System and 1 Game Gear  so I was pretty far gone up until it came crashing down :lol

If I recall correctly, the Japan launch had all kinds of problems and then it kind of limped along.  I don't know how it went for Europe and Australia but I doubt it did gangbusters.  The US sales in that thread are a decent window to how the Dreamcast really did.  With those software sales, I found it surprising that third parties cared to make an effort at all.  Funny but at the time, we were all pissed that EA, Konami, Square, and Enix weren't putting anything out for the system.

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Do you guys know if there's a list like that for GBA games?

I can't find one but search for posts made by bunkum.  Here's a thread to get started: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=59291

On the second page on, you will find some LTDs that may answer your question.  There are a few posts cheering that PSP software sales LTD beat out the DS.  Little did they know...

The glory days of Sales Age :'(

Edit: This thread is a pretty good read: http://www.goodcowfilms.com/farm/basement/ga-archive/ga-forum-quotes-12-11-2003.htm

It has the Kinesis magazine rack as well as this.  I think Drinky Crow wrote this around the age that I am now.  I guess I will never be clever on the internets :'(

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I picture everyone on here (dudes and dudettes alike) as the same babyfat, pasty-faced thirteen-year-olds, tears of petulant rage streaming down their chubby cheeks whenever anyone makes fun of Nintendo, anime, or Sega Sports.

Well, except Tazz, who I prefer to think of as a crochety old grandmother holed up in some musty corner, her rocking chair creaking and knitting needles clacking. Occasionally, she'll get some kind of Tourette's fit going and hurl cats at all the surly children.

I see myself as a sort of the 50's Ward Cleaver dad of this forum, back from work at the office, my smoker's pipe at a jaunty, Church-of-the-Subgenius angle between my teeth as I mug ingratiatingly to the studio audience. I try to sit down and have a nice page through the paper, but one of the brats starts squalling so I hafta beat him but good somewhere off camera. Then it's back to the fake smiles and canned punchlines that everyone loves so much
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Post by: Joe Molotov on June 09, 2012, 11:35:57 PM
I've always been a big fan of the FoxSpiritShadow meltdown.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: originalz on June 10, 2012, 07:30:03 AM
I remember that one of the Media Create threads had a complete list of Dreamcast sales.  From what I can recall the software sales there weren't that hot either, except for a few notable exceptions like Seaman.

Going through that DC list brings back memories though, so many forgotten games.  There are also some decent sellers that I wouldn't expect, like the fishing games and and most of the shit Infogrames put out.  Also really shows you how big the WWF was at that time, the DC wrestling games were pretty mediocre but still sold fairly well.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: cool breeze on June 10, 2012, 11:13:57 AM
that forum archive is hilarious

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I can't wait until the hype can finally diminish. That will happen with the PS2 launch. The people who say it blows the DC away graphically (I'm not even talking about the people in this forum, just general mainstreamers) will finally be able to compare the systems. I am very confident that once people look at the better DC games, and compare them to the better PS2 games... The DC will impress more. We will probably hear "OMG! This doesn't look better than the DC and it costs twice as much!! Crap!"

Obviously the hype can not be used nearly as much now that it's here. We can compare and see the real truth of the matter. The PS2 does not blow the DC away and infact looks inferior in some ways. Woo hoo!! Bring on the PS2 I can't wait until a friend gets a PS2 and I can bring over my DC. He'll get out Tekken, I will get out Soul Calibur He might have RR5, then I can show F355. He'll show Madden 2001, I will show NFL 2K1 and hook it up for online play. He'll show NBA Live 2001 and I will show NBA 2K1 and well.. hook it up for online play He can bring out Unreal Tournament, and I can bring out Q3A with well... online play. Then the realization can come that the DC not only holds up well to the PS2 but is actually better in some ways!


But don't get all whiny on me now Sony fans, I'm well aware that the PS2 will hold the mainstream market and sell a lot of systems. The thing is, that now when we get people saying that crap about the PS2 being so much better looking, blah blah. We can actually compare stuff on each system, heh. And then yep.. The DC can speak for itself and they can just stop all the BS claims about the PS2.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Joe Molotov on June 10, 2012, 12:47:43 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XxLLhwCx4cM
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Great Rumbler on June 10, 2012, 12:50:30 PM
:lol
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Takao on June 10, 2012, 01:16:44 PM
I expected an Xbox to come out of nowhere and crush them all with Brutal Forceadon.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Great Rumbler on June 10, 2012, 02:18:05 PM
Colin Williamson from IGN posts here?
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Mr. Gundam on June 10, 2012, 03:24:21 PM
Quote from: The Experiment on June 09, 2012, 05:15:21 PM
Since this is a sales thread and all, here's a link to Dreamcast hardware and software sales as of 2003:

http://www.goodcowfilms.com/farm/basement/ga-archive/sega-dc-sales-03-04-2003.htm

As a former Segafag and Dreamcast evangelist, these numbers are pretty sobering.  I was at Blast City when the Dreamcast was out and remembered all of the talk about how super successful the system was until its surprise and sudden cancellation.  In hindsight, it was a huge fucking failure.

I had no idea Crazy Taxi almost sold a million copies in the US. That's kinda neat. Bummer that Grandia II outsold Skies, though.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: T-Short on June 10, 2012, 04:16:26 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on June 10, 2012, 01:51:45 PM
Pretty sure the guy that made that video posts here.  And he is awesome.

 :bow
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on June 10, 2012, 04:56:19 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on June 10, 2012, 01:51:45 PM
Pretty sure the guy that made that video posts here.  And he is awesome.

Sho Nuff?  Just guessing.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Great Rumbler on June 10, 2012, 07:46:49 PM
Japan stuff:

Dragon Quest Monsters 3DS - 513k in first week
Guild 01 - 14k in first week
Dragon's Dogma has sold over 400k units across both consoles
No Vita games in top 20
3DS sold 101k, Vita sold 7.5k
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Oblivion on June 10, 2012, 07:55:18 PM
Quote from: Great Rumbler on June 10, 2012, 07:46:49 PM
No Vita games in top 20
3DS sold 101k, Vita sold 7.5k

Fucking hell.  :o
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Trent Dole on June 10, 2012, 08:10:55 PM
So when's the Vita fire sale happening? I'd pick one up on the cheap. :D
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Eel O'Brian on June 10, 2012, 08:13:54 PM
It won't ever happen, they'll just let it fade away like the PSP Go.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Trent Dole on June 10, 2012, 08:22:03 PM
Boo-urns.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on June 10, 2012, 11:31:48 PM
Quote from: Dr. Feelbad on June 10, 2012, 08:13:54 PM
It won't ever happen, they'll just let it fade away like the PSP Go.

I think you're right.  My fantasies of picking up a fire sale Vita for $100 will probably never materialize.  It will just stay at its price point while Sony tries to recuperate as much money on this turkey as they can.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: cool breeze on June 10, 2012, 11:38:53 PM
PSP Go didn't have an official price drop?

I picked mine up from Target or something for $100 new with three games.  This was a while ago.  Same with my DSi XL.  I'm sure retailers will have sales to get rid of the stock.  At one point Gameboy Micros were like $35 at Walmart.

Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Sho Nuff on June 11, 2012, 03:13:36 AM
Jesus fucking christ, that video

If I could press a button and make everything I produced pre-2001 vanish, I would NOT STOP PRESSING IT

Well, except for Corporal Dan

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r2gibPTw9Xc
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: DCharlieJP on June 11, 2012, 03:28:55 AM
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Well, except for Corporal Dan

is now a good or a bad time to mention i -think- i've found our X360 song? :O
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Sho Nuff on June 11, 2012, 03:31:14 AM
 :o

XBOX, XBOX 360
YOU DO IT TO ME...AGAIN AND AGAIN
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: maxy on June 11, 2012, 03:35:39 AM
Timbeeer

 :lol
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Great Rumbler on June 11, 2012, 07:40:30 AM
This thread has finally been redeemed.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Brehvolution on June 11, 2012, 09:53:40 AM
:rofl Corporal Dan
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on June 11, 2012, 10:05:08 AM
"here comes casey jones" I died irl  :lol :lol :lol

part of me hopes you read posts on this board with those voices in your head
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Sho Nuff on June 11, 2012, 02:14:06 PM
Note that the voice of Corporal Dan is the same voice of the talking skull in the Skulls of the Shogun trailer at 14 seconds in http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=YxayTDglLqE#t=14s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=YxayTDglLqE#t=14s)

:bow Sho Nuff's Dad :bow2
:bow Free labor :bow2
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on June 11, 2012, 02:27:21 PM
I remember when Mr. Singh modded my Xbox back in 2004, it came PRE-LOADED with all the Corporal Dan videos. What service!
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on June 11, 2012, 07:54:20 PM
LOL, so I was right then.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: T-Short on June 12, 2012, 03:52:52 AM
Quote from: Borys on June 11, 2012, 04:26:40 PM
Mr. Singh is Sho Nuff's dad? :o

He's probably the dad of all of us. Now, back to SALES TALK plz
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Takao on June 13, 2012, 12:04:02 AM
I say Inversion's first month NPD will be 5k.
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Post by: HyperZoneWasAwesome on June 13, 2012, 12:52:38 AM
Inversion is releasing two years late BTW.  I'd be surprised if Saber Interactive is still around for much longer.
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Post by: cool breeze on June 13, 2012, 01:40:47 AM
I thought inversion and that dubai shooter released years ago.  Inversion is from the timeshift people, right? because that's an alright shooter.  And didn't they make the battleship game? or was it Halo HD?
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on June 13, 2012, 02:16:59 AM
I had never heard of Inversion until Takao's post. not a good sign~
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Momo on June 13, 2012, 05:58:55 AM
236 copies exactly

One guy will quadruple dip
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Takao on June 13, 2012, 07:32:25 AM
Inversion's a cover based third person shooter with some gravity mechanics for PS3/360. Based on the reviews it seems the game doesn't live up to the potential of its concept.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nkO5kRmpT0k

I'm surprised this game wasn't canceled. It's the last hold out from Scamco's attempt to make games to target a Western audience and no one gives a shit. The game was supposed to be out years ago so who know what's up.

Quote from: Linkzg on June 13, 2012, 01:40:47 AM
I thought inversion and that dubai shooter released years ago.  Inversion is from the timeshift people, right? because that's an alright shooter.  And didn't they make the battleship game? or was it Halo HD?

Wiki tells me they went 5 years without releasing anything after TimeShift... After that they released Battle: Los Angeles on XBLA/PSN, and Halo HD.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Momo on June 13, 2012, 08:10:12 AM
Quote from: Howard Alan Treesong on June 13, 2012, 02:16:59 AM
I had never heard of Inversion until Takao's post. not a good sign~
Namco Bandai thats why
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Takao on June 13, 2012, 10:09:14 AM
So apparently Tokyo Jungle has sold incredibly well in its first week.

:piss Garbage Can Man's doubts on the viability of PlayStation C.A.M.P.  :piss2
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: The Sceneman on June 13, 2012, 10:15:09 AM
Inversion looks pretty great! Love me some TPS 'jank'
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Eel O'Brian on June 13, 2012, 12:12:29 PM
yeah, i am buying the shit out of it whenever it releases here
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Bebpo on June 13, 2012, 04:45:46 PM
Holy Fuck Tokyo Jungle sold 110,000 copies at boxed retail

 :munch :usavich :starwars :kylielaff :spin :spin :usavich :munch


How

What is this cool world and where did the real one go?
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Eel O'Brian on June 13, 2012, 05:00:29 PM
can't wait to unleash a pack of wild chihuahuas on a dinosaur
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Bebpo on June 13, 2012, 05:02:56 PM
Apparently it's like the 6th highest opening for a new IP on PS3 this entire generation.


Regardless of the quality of the game.  That the concept took off like this is SO GOOD.  God Bless Japan!
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on June 14, 2012, 07:03:56 PM
Video games are really dead. Sniper Elite got into the top 10  :lol :lol
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Eel O'Brian on June 14, 2012, 07:05:18 PM
you get to shoot hitler's nut (s?) off and see it in x-ray vision

that's kind of a strong contender for goty
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on June 14, 2012, 07:07:32 PM
its a mediocre no name game though. its got some cool gimmiks i enjoyed it but it should never be in the top 10 same with prototype 2
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Bebpo on June 14, 2012, 07:14:40 PM
I'm getting bored of seeing hardware numbers collapse into ruin each month with no repercussions. 

I want to see one or more of the big three REACT.  That'll be when the fun happens.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: pilonv1 on June 14, 2012, 07:40:50 PM
Quote from: Thomas Householmes Lane on June 14, 2012, 07:03:56 PM
Video games are really dead. Sniper Elite got into the top 10  :lol :lol

Was #1 in the UK for a few weeks, not surprising at all. Especially considering the lack of new releases
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: archie4208 on June 14, 2012, 08:09:41 PM
RIP consoles

Bow before your PC gaming kings

:bow (http://i.imgur.com/u0HMr.jpg) :bow2
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Joe Molotov on June 14, 2012, 08:43:59 PM
I bought Sniper Elite V2 and shot some nuts off. :rock
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Purple Filth on June 14, 2012, 09:25:43 PM
I saw NPD came out and the numbers are  :o

Dragon's Dogma was a nuclear bomb, max payne didn't seem to do well, and hardware are low across the board with Vita about 56k at most.


The only winner seemed to be Diablo 3 since it was number one on the list.

rough numbers stolen from GAF

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360: 160K
PS3: 124K
3DS: 113.5K
Wii: 71K
PSV: >50K, <56.8K


 :o :o :o :o :o :o
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on June 14, 2012, 09:40:45 PM
:fbm
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Bebpo on June 14, 2012, 09:42:28 PM
There's only so many times you can care about the industry going down the toilet...


I've lost all sympathy, empathy, or any attachment to the situation.  I kind of hate the modern game industry anyway.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Trent Dole on June 14, 2012, 09:55:56 PM
Dogma seems to have been doing ok in Japan so far though.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: tiesto on June 14, 2012, 10:07:52 PM
Quote from: Purple Filth on June 14, 2012, 09:25:43 PM
I saw NPD came out and the numbers are  :o

Dragon's Dogma was a nuclear bomb, max payne did seem to do well, and hardware are low across the board with Vita about 56k at most.


The only winner seemed to be Diablo 3 since it was number one on the list.

rough numbers stolen from GAF

Quote
360: 160K
PS3: 124K
3DS: 113.5K
Wii: 71K
PSV: >50K, <56.8K


 :o :o :o :o :o :o

It's like 1983 all over again  :o
A song to celebrate:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zBf3FUiLwEQ
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Great Rumbler on June 14, 2012, 10:43:14 PM
The home console market is pretty much saturated at this point, and no one cares about handhelds anymore.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: choco parfait on June 14, 2012, 11:02:40 PM
People are just fatigued on this generation of consoles. Next gen is what's needed to infuse excitement into console purchases again. Price drops and new bundles probably won't cut it anymore.

Vita doing poorly is expected. I'm just glad Sony was crazy/blind enough to pump so much power into a portable console, one last time. It was the best eulogy to portable console gaming that one could give.

Max Payne 3 selling under expectations is not surprising if you look at the first two. People just expected more because of dat Rockstar touch, but the series it of itself was never that big to begin with. (But at least it did better than Alan Wake  :lol Remedy)

Dragon's Dogma doing less than 100K is the greatest tragedy of this month's NPD, imo. It's a great game, and did so well in Japan that I was ever so hopeful... And in comparison to how well ORC did, it's only going to reinforce the message to Capcom that no one wants to give them: please continue to rehash good-selling franchises instead of attempting to ever make new ones.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Joe Molotov on June 14, 2012, 11:15:39 PM
The videogame fad has had a good run.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: cool breeze on June 15, 2012, 12:38:36 AM
There'll be a burgeoning market for choose your own adventure books soon to fill the void.

Halo 5 Foreword - 800 MS Points
Gamestop pre-order bonus: Cortana bookmark
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on June 15, 2012, 12:49:41 AM
At this point in previous generations, most consoles are $99-149.  I believe Microsoft and Sony have effectively tapped the $200 and up wells dry.  Considering how neither the 720 and PS4 are coming out until late 2013, they might want to release a $149-199 SKU for this holiday to see if they can try to jumpstart it.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Stoney Mason on June 15, 2012, 01:01:04 AM
They should have dropped prices on these consoles a long time ago. And Kinect tricked ms into thinking they had the new wii. That fad is over.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Great Rumbler on June 15, 2012, 01:03:35 AM
Look at the console numbers in North America from the last generation compared to this generation so far:

PS2 - 55 million
Gamecube - 13 million
Xbox - 15 million
Total - 83 million

PS3 - 23 million
Xbox - 37 million
Wii - 43 million
Total - 103 million

There's just nobody left to sell to at this point, especially at the price that the PS3 and Xbox360 are still selling at.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: cool breeze on June 15, 2012, 01:10:29 AM
Quote from: Stoney Mason on June 15, 2012, 01:01:04 AM
They should have dropped prices on these consoles a long time ago. And Kinect tricked ms into thinking they had the new wii. That fad is over.

yeah, with the talk of price drops, it's worth noting that the cheapest 360 is still $200.  If families are getting it for Kinect, that's bumped to $300, and if you want the hard drive to enable media functions, that's an additional hundred at $400.  The complete "Xbox 360 Experience" Microsoft sells is at $400.

PS3 is just as much, only move is an utter failure and no one's gonna want the bundle with it. [edit: $350 with move and camera]

Does NPD even track the different PS3 and 360 SKUs?
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: HyperZoneWasAwesome on June 15, 2012, 01:48:43 AM
this is the first month with Wal-Mart reporting, right?  So the numbers, whatever they are, should be more accurate now then ever.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: tiesto on June 15, 2012, 08:47:33 AM
We're headed for:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iyPthukplw0
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: chronovore on June 15, 2012, 11:15:08 AM
Quote from: Linkzg on June 15, 2012, 12:38:36 AM
There'll be a burgeoning market for choose your own adventure books soon to fill the void.

Halo 5 Foreword - 800 MS Points
Gamestop pre-order bonus: print-at-home Cortana bookmark PDF

Fixed.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Fortus on June 15, 2012, 11:45:46 AM
Quote from: Borys on June 15, 2012, 07:57:35 AM
Dragon's Bomba did 92k.

Poor Fortus :'(

Heh. I don't own Capcom stock and I'll easily clock several hundred hours total in this game (first playthrough took 114 hours according to the game at the end). Only downside for me is that we might not get a more polished sequel because of the sales. OTOH after seeing how Bioware "evolved" Dragon Age with DA2 maybe a sequel isn't something to be missed anyways.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Mr. Gundam on June 15, 2012, 01:30:09 PM
Quote from: Borys on June 15, 2012, 07:57:35 AM
Dragon's Bomba did 92k.

Poor Fortus :'(

It's on track for 500k in Japan, though. Still way short of that 2 million mark they were aiming for.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Sho Nuff on June 15, 2012, 01:41:06 PM
Wasn't it reported that DD was Capcom's most expensive game to date?
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Mr. Gundam on June 15, 2012, 01:41:23 PM
Quote from: Sho Nuff on June 15, 2012, 01:41:06 PM
Wasn't it reported that DD was Capcom's most expensive game to date?

Yep.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Bebpo on June 15, 2012, 02:23:45 PM
Quote from: Sho Nuff on June 15, 2012, 01:41:06 PM
Wasn't it reported that DD was Capcom's most expensive game to date?

It locked up their entire internal staff for like 4 years, which forced them to outsource every other game to western developers.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Mr. Gundam on June 15, 2012, 02:24:55 PM
Quote from: Bebpo on June 15, 2012, 02:23:45 PM
Quote from: Sho Nuff on June 15, 2012, 01:41:06 PM
Wasn't it reported that DD was Capcom's most expensive game to date?

It locked up their entire internal staff for like 4 years, which forced them to outsource every other game to western developers.

Wow. That explains a lot.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Takao on June 15, 2012, 02:26:32 PM
I think we will see sequels/spinoffs for Dragon's Dogma simply as an attempt to recoup costs.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: HyperZoneWasAwesome on June 15, 2012, 02:42:19 PM
Isn't RE6 being done internally as well?  And with a ginormous staff count behind it?
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Bebpo on June 15, 2012, 02:46:01 PM
I thought there was a rumor that it's being co-developed with another (western) studio.  But yeah I think the RE team stays the RE team and was not a part of the DD production.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Joe Molotov on June 15, 2012, 03:17:24 PM
Quote from: Bebpo on June 15, 2012, 02:23:45 PM
Quote from: Sho Nuff on June 15, 2012, 01:41:06 PM
Wasn't it reported that DD was Capcom's most expensive game to date?

It locked up their entire internal staff for like 4 years, which forced them to outsource every other game to western developers.

Double-ouch, considering most of their western games bombed too.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Huff on June 15, 2012, 11:26:51 PM
Hey oscar, any hint about how bad starhawk did?
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Takao on June 16, 2012, 01:30:14 AM
Stores up here are selling bundles of Max Payne 3 and GTA IV: Complete for $40. Clearly Max Payne 3 sold amazingly well.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Momo on June 16, 2012, 02:37:00 AM
Quote from: Huff on June 15, 2012, 11:26:51 PM
Hey oscar, any hint about how bad starhawk did?

Presser :

Quote
SCEA
  According to the May NPD report, exclusive PlayStation 3 titles again posted strong results with MLB12: The Show and Starhawk. PlayStation also continues to experience accelerated digital sales growth for the PS3 and PS Vita platforms. As demonstrated at E3 last week, our commitment to gamers is stronger than ever with upcoming 2013 PS3 exclusive titles, including Beyond: Two Souls, God of War: Ascension and The Last of Us, as well as PS Vita titles PlayStation All-Stars Battle Royale and Assassin's Creed III: Liberation which will continue PlayStation's momentum into the new year.
i.e. sub 200k (i speculate)
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Eel O'Brian on June 16, 2012, 09:55:02 AM
kinda figured starhawk would tank, i was in the beta and remember thinking that there was too much going on

they overcomplicated it with the building function - all they really needed to do was take the old warhawk, pretty it up with new maps, and add the mechs
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Stoney Mason on June 16, 2012, 12:35:05 PM
Starhawk was never gonna be mass appeal. I would have made it free to play and experimented with that model on the ps3.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: HyperZoneWasAwesome on June 16, 2012, 01:01:57 PM
a 60 buck Starhawk never had a chance.  A 30 dollar PSN/Retail presence might have done okay.  I mean, shit, Warhawk came out years ago at a discount or fuller priced with a headset, what chance did this have?
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Joe Molotov on June 18, 2012, 10:18:54 AM
(http://i.minus.com/ibuUxruFmfhggR.png)

Playstation Morte
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Stoney Mason on June 21, 2012, 04:46:15 PM
http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2012-06-21-stock-ticker-why-eas-market-valuation-has-crashed?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=us-daily


(http://images.eurogamer.net/2012/articles//a/1/4/9/3/7/7/9/ERTS_2.jpg.jpg)
(http://images.eurogamer.net/2012/articles//a/1/4/9/3/7/7/9/ERTS_NASDAQ_2.jpg.jpg)
(http://images.eurogamer.net/2012/articles//a/1/4/9/3/7/7/9/Publishers_3.jpg.jpg)
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Joe Molotov on June 21, 2012, 05:29:44 PM
TL;DR, but I assume it's because they didn't support the Wii enough.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on June 21, 2012, 06:48:34 PM
Quote from: Joe Molotov® EDGE™ on June 21, 2012, 05:29:44 PM
TL;DR, but I assume it's because they didn't support the Wii enough.

Yep.  I hope they fucking fail.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on June 21, 2012, 09:21:29 PM
EA actually did support Wii with some lower caliber stuff like Boomblox.  Some of their sports stuff was a decent effort (at first), too.  It was just that EA's business is all about selling big and they didn't know how to reach critical mass with their wii products until ... EA sports fitness?  It just wasn't a match for their current business model.  I would argue Activision did mostly the same strategy and it ... kinda did work out better for them.  Then again they put Guitar Hero on the system during Wii's intial craze and consistently released their bigger multiplats on a somewhat consistent basis. 
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: AdmiralViscen on June 21, 2012, 11:28:25 PM
I thought boom blox was the high caliber SPIELBERG GAME THAT WILL CONVERGE GAMING AND NONGAMING
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on June 22, 2012, 12:30:01 AM
That was lmno and it got cancelled.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: DCharlieJP on June 22, 2012, 12:42:16 AM
Quote
I think we will see sequels/spinoffs for Dragon's Dogma simply as an attempt to recoup costs.

if we don't see that system used for Monster Hunter on -some- platform then someone needs to go around and slap someone.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Momo on June 22, 2012, 01:18:14 AM
And yes it's capcom, reuse is kinda their thing
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Takao on June 22, 2012, 02:52:56 AM
Yeah, that 3DS Lost Planet spinoff is probably built on MML3's engine, lol.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Great Rumbler on June 22, 2012, 09:57:21 AM
So what happened with Dragon's Dogma bombing so hard in North America? Was it just terrible marketing on Capcom's part? Also, it kinda seems like maybe Capcom didn't ship that many copies to begin with, anybody hear anything along those lines?
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on June 22, 2012, 02:29:31 PM
Its a bad time to do new ip in 60 dollah boxed retail.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: pilonv1 on June 22, 2012, 10:37:22 PM
I wouldn't have release it a month either side of Diablo III to start with.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Great Rumbler on June 23, 2012, 12:25:24 AM
But I thought America loved generic fantasy? The success of The Elder Scrolls series and A Game of Thrones certainly had me fooled, then!

spoiler (click to show/hide)
:smug
[close]
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: HyperZoneWasAwesome on June 23, 2012, 08:02:44 PM
speaking of Game of Thrones, could Oscar confirm if Atlus is taking a bath on this or not?  At least so far.  Relatively speaking, as vaguely as possible of course.  I'm sure its kicking Risen 2's ass, but if its anywhere near The Witcher 2's 360 release then they got reason to celebrate.

and yes, Max Payne 3, DD, and every other May release really should have been reconsidered.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: AdmiralViscen on June 24, 2012, 07:31:51 PM
Is it any good?
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Oblivion on June 24, 2012, 09:11:06 PM
So I typed in a sales related question on the Google, and one of the first results I got a link to vgchartz. Noticed that it was plastered with ads, and it made me curious about something, and wouldn't you know it:

http://www.alexa.com/search?q=vgchartz.com&r=home_home&p=bigtop

Seems that distinguished black fellow ioi's been doing pretty well for himself after he got banned from gaf. And for a website that literally made up numbers, he seems to be doing exceptionally well (about as many registered users on his forums as are on gaf).

:usacry
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Huff on June 24, 2012, 09:16:08 PM
Quote from: AdmiralViscen on June 24, 2012, 07:31:51 PM
Is it any good?

metacritic is around a 50. I don't know anyone that's actually played it

@Oblivion are you suggesting borechartz should be created?
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Oblivion on June 24, 2012, 09:27:25 PM
Quote from: Huff on June 24, 2012, 09:16:08 PM
@Oblivion are you suggesting borechartz should be created?

:smug
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Sho Nuff on June 24, 2012, 10:01:41 PM
Quote from: Huff on June 24, 2012, 09:16:08 PM
Quote from: AdmiralViscen on June 24, 2012, 07:31:51 PM
Is it any good?

metacritic is around a 50. I don't know anyone that's actually played it

@Oblivion are you suggesting borechartz should be created?

DO IT

Btw I have no idea how vgchartz continues to exist. I used to have an NPD subscription and I'd look at both numbers just for laughs. Vgchartz was off by so much that it was absurd -- they'd say a title had sold 50k when it had actually done 3,500.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on June 24, 2012, 10:20:13 PM
Quote from: Sho Nuff on June 24, 2012, 10:01:41 PM
Quote from: Huff on June 24, 2012, 09:16:08 PM
Quote from: AdmiralViscen on June 24, 2012, 07:31:51 PM
Is it any good?

metacritic is around a 50. I don't know anyone that's actually played it

@Oblivion are you suggesting borechartz should be created?

DO IT

Btw I have no idea how vgchartz continues to exist. I used to have an NPD subscription and I'd look at both numbers just for laughs. Vgchartz was off by so much that it was absurd -- they'd say a title had sold 50k when it had actually done 3,500.

vgchartz has Lollipop Chainsaw pulling in 160,000 in the US right now.

USA Top Sellers 16th June 2012
1   X360   Lollipop Chainsaw   86,646
2   PS3   Lollipop Chainsaw   73,960
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Oblivion on June 24, 2012, 10:27:46 PM
Also, hasn't the NPD group threatened legal action against vgchartz more than a few times?
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Mr. Gundam on June 24, 2012, 10:50:47 PM
What does VGChartz base their estimations on?
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: tiesto on June 24, 2012, 10:52:48 PM
I've never seen the show but I've heard tons of people talk about it, so I'm surprised that the Game of Thrones game is bombing so hard. Would have probably been better if it was developed by their Japanese team aside from some random western team, the actual game looked like your shitty generic westaboo RPG.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Great Rumbler on June 24, 2012, 11:07:36 PM
Quote from: Mr. Gundam on June 24, 2012, 10:50:47 PM
What does VGChartz base their estimations on?

Calling the local Gamestop and Wal-Mart and asking how many copies of games/systems are sold. Then multiplying those numbers by the number of Gamestops and Wal-Marts in the country.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Huff on June 25, 2012, 12:33:28 AM
Quote from: Great Rumbler on June 24, 2012, 11:07:36 PM
Quote from: Mr. Gundam on June 24, 2012, 10:50:47 PM
What does VGChartz base their estimations on?

Calling the local Gamestop and Wal-Mart and asking how many copies of games/systems are sold. Then multiplying those numbers by the number of Gamestops and Wal-Marts in the country.

That seems like a decent amount of work for subpar results.

Borechartz should just totally make up all numbers. Oscar can only help if his little one guesses instead of him
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Oblivion on June 25, 2012, 01:33:10 AM
Isn't even that giving ioi too much credit?

I'm 99% sure someone said that he takes NPD numbers and just adds 15% or some weird arbitrary number.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Joe Molotov on June 25, 2012, 01:40:51 AM
Quote from: Oblivion on June 25, 2012, 01:33:10 AM
Isn't even that giving ioi too much credit?

I'm 99% sure someone said that he takes NPD numbers and just adds 15% or some weird arbitrary number.

That's only after NPD releases their numbers. First he makes up his BS numbers, then he goes back and "adjusts" them once he gets NPD numbers.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Momo on June 25, 2012, 01:42:15 AM
The numbers aren't really hard to model statistically. The problem is getting enough data sources to lower your error delta to a point where your numbers are actually use-able.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: pilonv1 on June 25, 2012, 01:47:40 AM
Quote from: Joe Molotov® EDGE™ on June 25, 2012, 01:40:51 AM
Quote from: Oblivion on June 25, 2012, 01:33:10 AM
Isn't even that giving ioi too much credit?

I'm 99% sure someone said that he takes NPD numbers and just adds 15% or some weird arbitrary number.

That's only after NPD releases their numbers. First he makes up his BS numbers, then he goes back and "adjusts" them once he gets NPD numbers.

I don't even think he does that now. Just picked a random one

http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2012-06-15-max-payne-3-sold-440-000-units-in-us-launch-month
Quote
Sales of Rockstar and Take-Two's Max Payne 3 in its US launch month were 440,000 units, according to data from the NPD Grou

http://www.vgchartz.com/game/32878/max-payne-3/USA/

360
Quote
Week Ending   Week   Weekly   Change   Total
19th May 2012   1   251,009   N/A   251,009
26th May 2012   2   85,616   -65.9%   336,625
02nd June 2012   3   64,342   -24.8%   400,967

PS3
Quote
Week Ending   Week   Weekly   Change   Total
19th May 2012   1   127,665   N/A   127,665
26th May 2012   2   53,141   -58.4%   180,806
02nd June 2012   3   33,054   -37.8%   213,860

So 440k, versus 613k. Pretty close if you ask me :derp

I wouldn't even want to look at how out games are after 6 months. Or the fact there's no value attached to anything, probably because when your estimation is out by hundreds of thousands of units god knows how much further you'll be out estimating average pricing.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Joe Molotov on June 25, 2012, 01:53:13 AM
It was funny how for a while, you'd see IGN and Kotaku and places quoting VGChartz numbers all the time. They don't still do that, do they?
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: pilonv1 on June 25, 2012, 01:58:19 AM
Just Forbes

http://www.forbes.com/sites/petercohan/2012/05/25/bloody-hypocrite-schillings-38-studios-fires-413/2/

:usacry
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: archnemesis on June 25, 2012, 01:59:17 AM
VGChartz recently got a mention in Forbes (http://www.forbes.com/sites/petercohan/2012/05/25/bloody-hypocrite-schillings-38-studios-fires-413/2/) and I heard industry people using it during last year's E3.

Edit: It seems like pilonv1 and I are browsing the same GAF thread.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Momo on June 25, 2012, 02:10:14 AM
Quote from: pilonv1 on June 25, 2012, 01:58:19 AM
Just Forbes

http://www.forbes.com/sites/petercohan/2012/05/25/bloody-hypocrite-schillings-38-studios-fires-413/2/ (http://www.forbes.com/sites/petercohan/2012/05/25/bloody-hypocrite-schillings-38-studios-fires-413/2/)

 :usacry
:dizzy
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: maxy on June 25, 2012, 03:07:10 AM
Of course they will get quoted,NPD public data availability has gone to shit.

Who cares,real data is moving fast towards digital anyway.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: originalz on June 25, 2012, 03:23:15 AM
Yeah, NPD just keeps getting worse and worse with their paranoia, and apparently they're not much better if professional sources have to use the chartzzzzzzz.  Like knowing the exact numbers of a few games or systems is really going to stop someone from buying the subscription.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Tasty on June 25, 2012, 03:34:06 AM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on May 29, 2012, 11:00:06 PM
Quote from: Takao on May 29, 2012, 10:57:49 PM
They've published a lot more (http://www.gamefaqs.com/features/company/72290.html) than I was expecting. For your sanity, do not look for all those games, lol.

Edit: Oh shit, El Shaddai's a enormous bomba then. I'm surprised it's even getting a social game.

Yes, El Shaddai was a very, very, very big bomba.  Anyway, I'll poke through that list and see if I can find any standouts.

El Shaddai deserved to bomb after what Ignition did to Arc Rise Fantasia. Which is like a D-list RPG anyways but not even it deserved this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dit425Y_q5I). Also I remember Shane being all "Oh we'll do it right, you can trust us, it's totally better off with us than Xseed who we outbid for it."

* Andrex wishes to express that he is deeply sympathetic to any Ignition staff you lost their jobs at the expense of El Shaddai bombing.

Edit- Wow this post was old, last time I trust that NEW! link on thread titles.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Tasty on June 25, 2012, 04:05:13 AM
Oh wow, they're finished? Huh.

So happy Xseed is not only around but seems to be doing well. Landing TLS from Nintendo must have been a kinda big deal for them.

Wait, did ARF outsell El Shaddai? :lol Wiki states it sold 21,000 first week in NA. Which actually... is higher than I expected, honestly.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Bebpo on June 25, 2012, 04:11:21 AM
Quote from: originalz on June 25, 2012, 03:23:15 AM
Yeah, NPD just keeps getting worse and worse with their paranoia, and apparently they're not much better if professional sources have to use the chartzzzzzzz.  Like knowing the exact numbers of a few games or systems is really going to stop someone from buying the subscription.

Agreed.  NPD drove the world to chartz and what a fucked up immature industry we have where multi-billion dollar companies have to rely on some 15 years olds BS number site because NPD is so afraid that people might see REAL NUMBERS.  Jesus Christ.  We have so many problems in this industry and nothing is ever getting any better.   :duh :duh :duh
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Tasty on June 25, 2012, 04:14:17 AM
That's what I've been saying Bebpo.

Although I might have said it in a slightly crazier, immature way.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: pilonv1 on June 25, 2012, 04:15:54 AM
I was about to bust some truth bombs in here but I see Andrex is back so I better keep my secrets to the super secret forum :shh
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Tasty on June 25, 2012, 04:24:07 AM
:lol I think I'm over that, or at least, better at not overreacting about it.

For now I'll concentrate on building my own super secret network of sources. :maf
Title: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Shaka Khan on June 25, 2012, 04:28:42 AM
Welcome back, kiddoboo.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Tasty on June 25, 2012, 04:30:57 AM
<3 Thanks. My posting may be erratic for a while but it's nice to be back.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Himu on June 25, 2012, 04:38:19 AM
how much did d3 sell?
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: originalz on June 25, 2012, 10:04:35 AM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on June 25, 2012, 03:53:46 AM
Ignition is/was terrible.  Usually when those little guys set out to do localizations, they have a lateness problem, but not a quality problem.  But man oh man, Ignition did some awful localization work.  So happy they're basically done.

Their responses to the hate were great as well.  "Yeah, I know, this last game wasn't that good, but we had budget problems and etc etc you can trust us that our next project is getting our full support and won't have any localization issues!"  I guess it's a kind of 'fool me once...' situation.

"Don't worry guys KOF12 will get a patch real soon which will make online play smooth as butter!"
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: bork on June 25, 2012, 10:28:31 AM
Quote from: originalz on June 25, 2012, 10:04:35 AM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on June 25, 2012, 03:53:46 AM
Ignition is/was terrible.  Usually when those little guys set out to do localizations, they have a lateness problem, but not a quality problem.  But man oh man, Ignition did some awful localization work.  So happy they're basically done.

Their responses to the hate were great as well.  "Yeah, I know, this last game wasn't that good, but we had budget problems and etc etc you can trust us that our next project is getting our full support and won't have any localization issues!"  I guess it's a kind of 'fool me once...' situation.

"Don't worry guys KOF12 will get a patch real soon which will make online play smooth as butter!"

To be fair, Ignition was the only reason KOF XII even got patched at all- yeah the patches did next to nothing to help, but that game had a lot more problems than just the online anyway.   :lol

All I really remember was rolling my eyes at Shane Bettenhausen shilling KOF XII and Samurai Spirits Sen (which they ended up not releasing), trying to make what was the equivalent to a retail beta-test for KOF XIII and a pure-shit 3D fighter look good.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: AdmiralViscen on June 26, 2012, 08:13:36 PM
Quote from: tiesto on June 24, 2012, 10:52:48 PM
I've never seen the show but I've heard tons of people talk about it, so I'm surprised that the Game of Thrones game is bombing so hard. Would have probably been better if it was developed by their Japanese team aside from some random western team, the actual game looked like your shitty generic westaboo RPG.

Hey, it's Westeros
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: maxy on June 27, 2012, 01:26:15 AM
from gaf

http://kanpou.npb.go.jp/20120626/20120626g00138/pdf/20120626g001380148.pdf

Originally found in Japan government "National Printing Bureau" website, the SCE (Sony Computer Entertainment) is reported for having over 94.3 billion Yen deficit in 2011 fiscal year(*).

(*.平成23年4月1日~平成24年3月31日 :2011/04 ~2012/03)


(http://i.imgur.com/3Y2bu.png)
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Tasty on June 27, 2012, 01:31:22 AM
 :o

I thought they said it was the only part making a profit? Were they straight up lying?
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Momo on June 27, 2012, 02:12:01 AM
so whats this bullshit about Dragons Dogma selling 1 million copies? Last time I checked a tracker for it it was bombing
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Post by: Trent Dole on June 27, 2012, 02:12:52 AM
Quote from: Momo on June 27, 2012, 02:12:01 AM
so whats this bullshit about Dragons Dogma selling 1 million copies? Last time I checked a tracker for it it was bombing
Think that's their goal? It's done well in Japan but pretty much tanked over here.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: maxy on June 27, 2012, 02:23:40 AM
Quote from: Andrex on June 27, 2012, 01:31:22 AM
:o

I thought they said it was the only part making a profit? Were they straight up lying?

Did they really say that?

maybe they meant pomfrit

Quote from: Momo on June 27, 2012, 02:12:01 AM
so whats this bullshit about Dragons Dogma selling 1 million copies? Last time I checked a tracker for it it was bombing

Shipped sales

Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Momo on June 27, 2012, 02:41:19 AM
Aah, I see. Going to have some really pissed off distributors/retailers then. Expecting fire sale soon.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Trent Dole on July 12, 2012, 11:31:13 PM
June!
01 Lego Batman 2: DC Super Heroes (360, Wii, PS3, NDS, 3DS, PSV, PC)
02 Ghost Recon: Future Soldier (360, PS3, PC)
03 Diablo 3 (PC)
04 Max Payne 3 (360, PS3, PC)
05 NBA 2K12 (360, PS3, Wii, PSP, PS2, PC)
06 Batman: Arkham City (360, PS3, PC)
07 Pokemon Conquest (NDS)
08 Modern Warfare 3 (360, PS3, Wii, PC)
09 Battlefield 3 (360, PS3, PC)
10 The Amazing Spider-Man (360, PS3, 3DS, NDS, Wii)
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: The Sceneman on July 13, 2012, 04:41:49 AM
I really hope Spec Ops: The Line charts in July
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Post by: Fifstar on July 13, 2012, 05:41:45 AM
Hardware from Gaf

Xbox 360: 257K (-49.3%)
Nintendo 3DS: 155K (+8.4%)
Nintendo DS: 150K (-61.1%)
Wii: 95K (-65.2%)
Vita + PSP: ~100K

3DS numbers also seem kinda bad considering how much the DS collapsed. I guess the imminent XL launch explains that to a certain degree, but I'm not sure how much an additional model, that is basically just a bigger version, will really do.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Owl-faced Wizard on July 13, 2012, 06:47:20 AM
Only 20m?  I expected more considering people won't shut the hell up about it.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Fifstar on July 13, 2012, 07:50:34 AM
Hm, at least regarding the consoles there can be the hope that a new generation might spark interest again. Might be delusional but handhelds look like they are done in the west. I fell that Nintendo mismanaged the 3DS greatly, but that can't explain alone that massive downfall in sales over the years.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Great Rumbler on July 13, 2012, 08:03:23 AM
Quote from: Fifstar on July 13, 2012, 07:50:34 AM
Hm, at least regarding the consoles there can be the hope that a new generation might spark interest again.

Sure it will. The current market is totally saturated, especially with the Xbox360 still being $200 and the PS3 still at $250. Slashing those prices would help, too.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Tasty on July 13, 2012, 09:05:33 AM
Quote from: Trent Dole on July 12, 2012, 11:31:13 PM
June!
01 Lego Batman 2: DC Super Heroes (360, Wii, PS3, NDS, 3DS, PSV, PC)
02 Ghost Recon: Future Soldier (360, PS3, PC)
03 Diablo 3 (PC)
04 Max Payne 3 (360, PS3, PC)
05 NBA 2K12 (360, PS3, Wii, PSP, PS2, PC)
06 Batman: Arkham City (360, PS3, PC)
07 Pokemon Conquest (NDS)
08 Modern Warfare 3 (360, PS3, Wii, PC)
09 Battlefield 3 (360, PS3, PC)
10 The Amazing Spider-Man (360, PS3, 3DS, NDS, Wii)

Pokemon on DS still going strong even with a weird spinoff thing. Bodes well for BW2.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Owl-faced Wizard on July 13, 2012, 09:13:41 AM
Quote from: Borys on July 13, 2012, 08:10:54 AM
Quote from: Owl-faced Wizard on July 13, 2012, 06:47:20 AM
Only 20m?  I expected more considering people won't shut the hell up about it.

Maybe that figure is only for iPad 3... can't remember.
[/quote

Wiki sez 67.1 million (as of 31 March 2012).
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Owl-faced Wizard on July 13, 2012, 11:24:46 AM
I actually don't think that'll be enough to tell.  I don't think the Wii U is going to do anything - it seems like they created the absolute perfect wrong product for the market with that, so a lack of success there won't indicate much of anything else other than Nintendo is a dumdum.  I think the 3DS will do better than it is, but not a lot better.  The DS and Vita finally dying plus new software plus the XL (though I don't think that was quite the right revision) will prove the doubters and hatas wrong in that the handheld market isn't dead - it's just shrunken into a GBA-sized puddle with no room for anybody but Nintendo.  The 360 and PS3 will ooze along miserably until MS and Sony release their whatevers and  it will probably be too early to make any broad proclamations about the market based on their launch period.  Unless MS and Sony announce platforms that just scream redundance like the Wii U/Vita.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Great Rumbler on July 13, 2012, 11:30:16 AM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on July 13, 2012, 10:43:10 AM
I'm not completely sure this is just generation fatigue, but I guess we'll find out after another year and a half of horrifyingly bad sales.

Combination of factors, probably. Mediocre economy, aging consoles, saturated market, [relatively] expensive consoles, and smartphone incursion.

From a post I made earlier in this thread:

Quote
PS2 - 55 million
Gamecube - 13 million
Xbox - 15 million
Total - 83 million

PS3 - 23 million
Xbox - 37 million
Wii - 43 million
Total - 103 million

It's not quite 1:1 because of the Wii, but even if you drop the Wii's total to that of the Gamecube, it's still not far off from what the last gen totals got up to with $100 price points.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Eel O'Brian on July 13, 2012, 12:21:01 PM
It really hit me how quickly dedicated handhelds are dying off during all the iOS July 4th sales. Warner Brothers had all their titles on sale for $.99, so on a whim I picked up both Harry Potter Lego games for a total of $2. They are the EXACT same games as the ones on 3DS and PS Vita. Only those are $20 each. Are the controls optimal? No. But they're good enough, and for a savings of $38 off the pair good enough is...well, good enough. There's no way Sony or Nintendo can compete with that. Nintendo has their chest of franchises, so yeah, they'll squeak by for a while longer, but Sony is absolutely fucked for sure.
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Post by: Great Rumbler on July 13, 2012, 01:48:11 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on July 13, 2012, 12:13:36 PM
Well, that's one way to make it look good, but if you look at the messy details like 2/3 of last gen's systems being on the market for 4 (xbox) or 5 (gamecube) years versus all three systems being on the market for 6+ years this gen, or that the trend of the last three years has been a massive decline the likes of which we haven't seen in this industry since the early 80s, it doesn't really do much to allay concerns.

Couldn't part of that be attributed to the systems still being over $200? Without dredging through the internet, I imagine both the Gamecube and the Wii, probably the PS2 as well, hit $100 long before the point we're at now.

That aside, the Wii IS part of this current generation and that puts this gen's total well above what last gen managed [which included the PS2 selling far beyond the other two systems, and beyond where this gen is now]. Though a lot of that is thanks to the Wii tapping into an untapped audience that won't be back for next generation, so tempered expectations should certainly be in play.

Oh, and another random tidibt: what about the resurrection of the PC market? I could see that being a potential factor for the decline of the past couple of years and possibly playing a role in how things shake out next generation. So, yeah, tempered expectations and all that.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Great Rumbler on July 13, 2012, 02:09:39 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on July 13, 2012, 01:50:05 PM
but I will say, if it's all so healthy, it's kind of odd that virtually everyone is losing money hand over fist.

Out of control budgets would be on that list somewhere.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Stoney Mason on July 13, 2012, 02:19:00 PM
It seems like we have the debate every NPD thread. It's clear that the market has contracted somewhat but the reasons and whether its a permanent decline seem to be where the debates lies. I definitely think the handheld market has contracted because of ipad, and iphones. I think there is still a market for a Nintendo kid oriented hand-held but the Vita's market what little it ever had has been cannibalized to the point where it doesn't have a real mass market place in America. 

I still think part of the reasons the console contraction happened is because of the fad like nature of the Wii and high prices but I definitely believe the casual market has moved on from consoles to simpler, cheaper, and more casual experiences on other devices.

I think that's where a good chunk of the missing money is. The next gen consoles have to adapt to a multi-tiered market. That means a lot of different things.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Tasty on July 13, 2012, 02:40:31 PM
Quote from: Dr. Feelbad on July 13, 2012, 12:21:01 PM
It really hit me how quickly dedicated handhelds are dying off during all the iOS July 4th sales. Warner Brothers had all their titles on sale for $.99, so on a whim I picked up both Harry Potter Lego games for a total of $2. They are the EXACT same games as the ones on 3DS and PS Vita. Only those are $20 each. Are the controls optimal? No. But they're good enough, and for a savings of $38 off the pair good enough is...well, good enough. There's no way Sony or Nintendo can compete with that. Nintendo has their chest of franchises, so yeah, they'll squeak by for a while longer, but Sony is absolutely fucked for sure.

There's no way Sony or Nintendo competing with publishers who price their own content stupidly? Because all I'm getting from your post is that Warner Bros. is underpricing on iOS and overpricing on Vita/3DS for the same content.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: cool breeze on July 13, 2012, 03:13:10 PM
Quote from: Stoney Mason on July 13, 2012, 02:19:00 PM
It seems like we have the debate every NPD thread. It's clear that the market has contracted somewhat but the reasons and whether its a permanent decline seem to be where the debates lies. I definitely think the handheld market has contracted because of ipad, and iphones. I think there is still a market for a Nintendo kid oriented hand-held but the Vita's market what little it ever had has been cannibalized to the point where it doesn't have a real mass market place in America. 

I think handhelds are just going the way of arcades in the west.  Between consoles matching (and surpassing) the quality and online play, arcades kinda lost the appeal needed to be a sustainable business.  For most people there isn't really a point to handheld when an iphone is just as good; wherever it falls short, it makes up for in convenience.  I think I'm the weird minority who likes my dedicated gaming handhelds and arcades. 

Kids are another story.  Nintendo is the chuck e cheese in this daft analogy.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Eel O'Brian on July 13, 2012, 04:09:40 PM
Quote from: Andrex on July 13, 2012, 02:40:31 PM
Quote from: Dr. Feelbad on July 13, 2012, 12:21:01 PM
It really hit me how quickly dedicated handhelds are dying off during all the iOS July 4th sales. Warner Brothers had all their titles on sale for $.99, so on a whim I picked up both Harry Potter Lego games for a total of $2. They are the EXACT same games as the ones on 3DS and PS Vita. Only those are $20 each. Are the controls optimal? No. But they're good enough, and for a savings of $38 off the pair good enough is...well, good enough. There's no way Sony or Nintendo can compete with that. Nintendo has their chest of franchises, so yeah, they'll squeak by for a while longer, but Sony is absolutely fucked for sure.

There's no way Sony or Nintendo competing with publishers who price their own content stupidly? Because all I'm getting from your post is that Warner Bros. is underpricing on iOS and overpricing on Vita/3DS for the same content.

You just keep thinkin', Butch, that's what you're good at. You've got vision, and the rest of the world wears bifocals.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Owl-faced Wizard on July 13, 2012, 05:24:38 PM
So ... why are they pricing Lego Harry Potter for iPhone at $2?  Because they can't charge any more?  Yeah.  And $2 is fine ... when you're Lego Harry Potter and everybody will buy you.  You're shit out of luck if you're not targeting the widest possible market with $2 games.   I do think there's an issue for games like Lego Harry Potter ... but it is an issue, and not a clear direction.  Pretty well nobody but Apple is making big money off iDevice games, so it just looks like there are hard times ahead either way and they might ultimately just be devaluing their property.  The market is a real mess.  iDevice triumphalists (and I am not calling you one) remind me a lot of tea partiers.  The parallels are uncanny, actually.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Positive Touch on July 13, 2012, 05:39:04 PM
Quote from: Owl-faced Wizard on July 13, 2012, 05:24:38 PM
So ... why are they pricing Lego Harry Potter for iPhone at $2?  Because they can't charge any more?  Yeah.  And $2 is fine ... when you're Lego Harry Potter and everybody will buy you.  You're shit out of luck if you're not targeting the widest possible market with $2 games.   I do think there's an issue for games like Lego Harry Potter ... but it is an issue, and not a clear direction.  Pretty well nobody but Apple is making big money off iDevice games, so it just looks like there are hard times ahead either way and they might ultimately just be devaluing their property.  The market is a real mess.  iDevice triumphalists (and I am not calling you one) remind me a lot of tea partiers.  The parallels are uncanny, actually.

ok, go to your room
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Owl-faced Wizard on July 13, 2012, 05:46:42 PM
You can't make me and I'm right depending on how loosey goosey you get with the terms.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on July 13, 2012, 05:47:25 PM
I think that Microsoft and Sony have tapped the $200 and up market dry for some time.  At this point in the game last generation, you'd be able to get a PS2 for $99-129.  Due to the recession and what not, people probably have less money to spend in 2012 than they did in 2006 for video games.   I don't see Microsoft or Sony making any price cuts anytime soon though.

Oh and regarding the Vita, remember that Sony did fuck all to promote the thing when it launched in the US.  Part of it is iOS/Android, sure, but part of it is the red headed stepchild treatment that Sony is giving it.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Eel O'Brian on July 13, 2012, 06:19:54 PM
Quote from: Owl-faced Wizard on July 13, 2012, 05:24:38 PM
So ... why are they pricing Lego Harry Potter for iPhone at $2?  Because they can't charge any more?

Did you not see where I wrote "July 4th sales," "Warner Brothers had all their titles on sale for $.99," and "both Harry Potter Lego games for a total of $2."  It's like, the first two sentences of the post, too.

They're normally $5 each, which is still $15 less than the 3DS/Vita retail versions (after price drops, those games came out at around $40 each). The average iOS/Android games are priced between $1.99 - $6.99, with a few that are priced higher. Obviously that price point and the .99 sales work out pretty well for some of them, or they wouldn't keep pumping out the games on iTunes/Google Play. The average 3DS/Vita games are (including DL games) $9.99 - 39.99, with a few that are priced lower. They're rarely ever on sale, unless you consider older games being bargained out on sale, and even then the median sale price is above the regular price of iOS/Android titles. Point is, no one can sell a retail cartridge/card game for $5, much less $1, and they can't match the flexible pricing structure of iOS/Android in their digital services, either. They can't compete.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on July 13, 2012, 06:26:31 PM
It will be tough for future generations to see the kind of sales the past two generations have.

If people are going to blow $600-800 on an iPad that plays games, it is going to be harder to justify shelling out another $300-400 (the probably range of launch prices of next gen consoles) for a system.  People don't have that kind of disposable income (most people can barely afford the iPad as it is) to get both.  If it will end up being one or the other for families, it will be a cold, harsh winter for Nintendo, Sony, and Microsoft.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Owl-faced Wizard on July 13, 2012, 06:55:42 PM
Quote from: Dr. Feelbad on July 13, 2012, 06:19:54 PM
Quote from: Owl-faced Wizard on July 13, 2012, 05:24:38 PM
So ... why are they pricing Lego Harry Potter for iPhone at $2?  Because they can't charge any more?
Point is, no one can sell a retail cartridge/card game for $5, much less $1
Who's arguing?  Stand down.
Quote
, and they can't match the flexible pricing structure of iOS/Android in their digital services, either. They can't compete.
Can't? Nonsense.  Won't? Maybe.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: pilonv1 on July 13, 2012, 09:03:00 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on July 13, 2012, 12:13:36 PM
Well, that's one way to make it look good, but if you look at the messy details like 2/3 of last gen's systems being on the market for 4 (xbox) or 5 (gamecube) years versus all three systems being on the market for 6+ years this gen, or that the trend of the last three years has been a massive decline the likes of which we haven't seen in this industry since the early 80s, it doesn't really do much to allay concerns.

There's always a decline at the end of a generation. This one looks worse because we had a huge fad in the middle of it. Combine that with prices that are higher after 7 years than they were after 3-4 years last time and I'm not surprised there are still huge declines. I don't know the % of ps2/Xbox sold under $180 but I assume it would be significant.

Not saying I disagree with you but I think most of the decline has been from holding higher prices and some wii owners have moved to mobile/tablets rather than HD consoles. Which bodes well for the Wii U.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Eel O'Brian on July 13, 2012, 10:21:23 PM
360 didn't exist in June 2005
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Eel O'Brian on July 13, 2012, 10:53:45 PM
Wow, consoles used to have some long tails, saleswise. GBA still pulling over 100k in 2007, that's nuts.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: HyperZoneWasAwesome on July 14, 2012, 02:56:36 AM
holee shix those console numbers of years past are incredible.

the game industry would be dancing in the streets if anybody were still pulling those #'s down.  And I forgot just how much ass Nintendo used to kick.

damn.  Nintendo just celebrated breaking the 5 Mil mark for the American 3DS.  It don't look so rosy now.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Takao on July 18, 2012, 11:15:29 AM
please tell me inversion sold 300 copies
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on July 19, 2012, 03:46:59 AM
Quote
Around 17.56 million people were out of work in the 17-country euro zone in May, or 11.1 per cent of the working population, a new high since euro-area records began in 1995, the EU's statistics office Eurostat said.

Just saying.
Title: Why are console sales down?
Post by: Stoney Mason on July 24, 2012, 06:39:54 PM
Quote
iPhone sales: 26 million units, a 28 percent growth over the year-ago quarter

iPad sales: 17 million units, an 84 percent growth over the year-ago quarter

Mac sales: 4 million units, a 2 percent growth over the year-ago quarter

iPod sales: 6.8 million units, a 10 percent decline from the year-ago quarter

http://www.vg247.com/2012/07/24/apple-q3-financials-26-million-iphones-and-17-million-ipads-sold/
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Great Rumbler on July 24, 2012, 08:56:28 PM
Crazy numbers.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Fifstar on July 25, 2012, 02:52:45 AM
Took me a second to realize this are quartal numbers, damn.  :lol
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on July 25, 2012, 03:42:21 AM
Why couldnt sony make a playstation phone when people cared. They are truly run by distinguished mentally-challenged fellows.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: T-Short on July 25, 2012, 06:52:13 AM
Apple is still getting slammed by the financial industry because of these iPhone sales though, since the sales are down from 35 mill for Q1. Apparently this drop off was larger than prognosticated
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: treythemovie on July 25, 2012, 07:05:33 AM
Apple has pretty much reached its peak and has no where to go but down. That's not to say they aren't going to continue doing well, because they are. But once they start going down every ally, competitor and "analyst" is going to come out of the woodwork looking for blood. Sound be fun!  :D

spoiler (click to show/hide)
sadly Apple fanboys are only going to get more unbearable as this happens  :-\
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Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: pilonv1 on July 25, 2012, 07:23:23 AM
Quote from: Hyoushi on July 25, 2012, 06:52:13 AM
Apple is still getting slammed by the financial industry because of these iPhone sales though, since the sales are down from 35 mill for Q1. Apparently this drop off was larger than prognosticated

From what I understand from people working in the telco industry, iPhone is old news, consumers want something new and the android handsets are giving them that.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: pilonv1 on July 25, 2012, 07:42:17 AM
The Samsung phones are doing well.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Joe Molotov on July 25, 2012, 09:57:00 AM
Them Windows 8 phones are gonna be big, I hear.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on July 25, 2012, 02:09:05 PM
Quote from: Borys on July 25, 2012, 07:35:08 AM
:lol Android

pilnov1, c'mon son

Just cause you finally jumped on the iOS bandwagon (late) doesn't mean Android has stopped kicking iOS ass in overall sales.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Stoney Mason on July 25, 2012, 03:32:37 PM
Android phones despite whatever I think about them sell fine. It's the tablet market where they are struggling big time.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Sho Nuff on July 25, 2012, 03:38:04 PM
Quote from: Premium Lager on July 25, 2012, 03:42:21 AM
Why couldnt sony make a playstation phone when people cared. They are truly run by distinguished mentally-challenged fellows.

They tried! But SCE wouldn't cooperate with other groups. Too much siloing.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Tasty on July 25, 2012, 04:53:08 PM
Quote from: Stoney Mason on July 25, 2012, 03:32:37 PM
Android phones despite whatever I think about them sell fine. It's the tablet market where they are struggling big time.

Yup.

I think the N7 is going to turn that around though. It's going to at least eat up almost all of the Kindle Fire's market in the next few months. It will be interesting to see how the iPad Mini does, being the first of the iPhone/iPad line to enter an already crowded market.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Eel O'Brian on July 25, 2012, 06:37:26 PM
Did you get yours yet? I know you said you were out of town when it shipped. Interested to hear your thoughts on it.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Purple Filth on July 25, 2012, 07:51:17 PM
Quote from: Andrex on July 25, 2012, 04:53:08 PM
Quote from: Stoney Mason on July 25, 2012, 03:32:37 PM
Android phones despite whatever I think about them sell fine. It's the tablet market where they are struggling big time.

Yup.

I think the N7 is going to turn that around though. It's going to at least eat up almost all of the Kindle Fire's market in the next few months. It will be interesting to see how the iPad Mini does, being the first of the iPhone/iPad line to enter an already crowded market.


This exists?

*checks some tech sites*

Well i guess it does, huh
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Tasty on July 25, 2012, 07:57:05 PM
Quote from: Dr. Feelbad on July 25, 2012, 06:37:26 PM
Did you get yours yet? I know you said you were out of town when it shipped. Interested to hear your thoughts on it.

Just got it a few hours ago, posting with it right now.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Eel O'Brian on July 25, 2012, 08:03:38 PM
http://www.thebore.com/forum/index.php?topic=38546.0
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on July 26, 2012, 03:29:08 AM
I know it's old but I just came across

http://www.forbes.com/sites/insertcoin/2012/06/05/sony-microsoft-and-nintendo-tie-for-last-place-at-e3/

 :lol
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: archnemesis on July 31, 2012, 07:33:05 AM
Quote from: Borys on July 31, 2012, 07:05:17 AM
So is there any single game that can "save" Vita?

MonHun?

Cause I do not think God of War, Uncharted, Killzone etc. yadda yadda did or will do two shits for the platform. Neither would Sony Smash Bros. Sony needs to pay Nintendo for a Mario game.
A price drop combined with Monster Hunter, Kingdom Hearts 3 and Metal Gear Solid 5 would do the trick. A more likely scenario of what we'll get is a bundle with a packed-in memory card and another portable version of Gran Turismo.

I don't think a Mario game wouldn't sell as well on a non-Nintendo system.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Eel O'Brian on July 31, 2012, 09:59:10 AM
Price drop and memory card in the box will help a little, but it will never fully rebound. Sony dropped all kinds of balls with the Vita, no memory included being the most egregious omission. They got away with that during the PSP days, but it's a different world out there now, and people expect to be able to use their shiny new toys when they unpack them instead of having to immediately drive back to the store.

The second ball-dropping is that their release strategy seems to have been:

1. Release Vita.
2. Stop talking about it.

They don't appear to have any real confidence in their product, and it shows. Their big chance to make a post-release media push for their new system was their E3 conference, where all the mainstream news was watching, and Sony didn't seem to think the Vita ranked more than 5 minutes to itself. And when it was mentioned a couple of times elsewhere it was shown as an accessory to the PS3.

They won't bounce back much, no matter what they do. Every month that goes by in the real world is like six months in the tech world, and all kinds of new hotness is being announced. It's already old news, the only time it gets mentioned at all is in reference to how poorly it's selling. Vita has the smell of failure or also-ran about it now, and there's really nothing that can change that perception once it's out there. Too bad, it's an awesome piece of hardware.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Joe Molotov on July 31, 2012, 10:12:59 AM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on July 31, 2012, 06:30:15 AM
Really annoying to see some people in THAT OTHER PLACE allowing the "but we don't know digital sales, they could be a hojillion!" excuse when many of the same folk vehemently opposed such talk about non-Nintendo digital sales.  Annoying, but not unexpected.

Like anyone is buying digital copies of Nintendo games.  ::)
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: maxy on July 31, 2012, 10:19:46 AM
Dunno,but I think Vita still has a decent chance in Japan.Japan is pretty high on dedicated handhelds,there is room for one more.

West?
Vita is finished,3DS too.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Trent Dole on July 31, 2012, 02:20:57 PM
Uh, they've got the Vocaloid game at the end of August in Japan? I 'unno. A friend of mine has a Vita and I think it's a cool piece of kit. Thing's on my radar come a price drop + revision with TV out. Of course I may end up with one before then anyway.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Purple Filth on July 31, 2012, 05:12:57 PM
just needs some more games and a price drop to sweeten the pot for me to give a flying fuck
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on July 31, 2012, 07:26:34 PM
I'll buy a Vita if Sony announces some new games for it at E3 2014.

Given how Sony barely cared to promote the thing, I really wonder if they will just "streamline operations," ditch the Vita, and focus entirely on the PS4.
Title: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Huff on July 31, 2012, 07:31:31 PM
Sony probably knows dedicated handheld gaming is not going to be around for very much longer, and are waiting for most to forget about the vita in order to reintroduce it as a phone during 2014
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Takao on July 31, 2012, 08:41:04 PM
Quote from: The Experiment on July 31, 2012, 07:26:34 PM
I'll buy a Vita if Sony announces some new games for it at E3 2014.

Given how Sony barely cared to promote the thing, I really wonder if they will just "streamline operations," ditch the Vita, and focus entirely on the PS4.

SCEJ is pretty much doomed at that point then since unless Sony pulls a miracle and gets huge third parties (besides Final Fantasy XVI in 2019) on board for PS4 I can't see that doing very well in Japan. Yes, I said that even though we know literally nothing of PS4. ;)
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Tasty on August 01, 2012, 12:00:34 AM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on July 31, 2012, 11:55:26 AM
Nah, even the PSP wasn't in this bad of shape in Japan pre-MH boom.  Sony would need something on the cultural impact level of MH to even pull out of the redzone into the yellow, let alone green.  Nothing we would expect from Sony has the oomph to bring the Vita back, and surprise miracles are called that for a reason.

As for the 3DS, I haven't completely written it off outside Japan yet, but if the first Pokemon game comes out and underperforms, I'll be ready to call it a ballgame then.  For now, it's still pacing ahead of the DS over the same span, for similar yet less beneficial to Nintendo reasons.

What would you call underperforming for a Pokemon game in Japan? I think the lowest selling game is like FireRed/LeafGreen and they sold 800k the first week on the GBA.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Owl-faced Wizard on August 01, 2012, 12:32:46 AM
3ds pokemon will do fine in Japan, it's the west where there is doubt.  That's what he was saying.  Gosh.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Tasty on August 01, 2012, 12:51:49 AM
Quote from: Owl-faced Wizard on August 01, 2012, 12:32:46 AM
3ds pokemon will do fine in Japan, it's the west where there is doubt.  That's what he was saying.  Gosh.

I kinda doubt that'll ever be the case, but we'll see.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: HyperZoneWasAwesome on August 01, 2012, 02:36:49 AM
I would shit a brick if any 3DS game did those sales at any point in the lifetime of the system in America.

Its just not ever going to happen.  That's not to say the 3DS won't and can't have a long and healthy life, I actually think it'll do somewhat well.  But the new normal for this kinda thing is going to scale way downwards from the previous generation.

and that could very well be the case with the next line of big boy systems too.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Tasty on August 01, 2012, 02:39:07 AM
Quote from: HyperZoneWasAwesome on August 01, 2012, 02:36:49 AM
I would shit a brick if any 3DS game did those sales at any point in the lifetime of the system in America.

Its just not ever going to happen.  That's not to say the 3DS won't and can't have a long and healthy life, I actually think it'll do somewhat well.  But the new normal for this kinda thing is going to scale way downwards from the previous generation.

and that could very well be the case with the next line of big boy systems too.

Bookmarking
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Tasty on August 01, 2012, 03:35:20 AM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on August 01, 2012, 02:42:54 AM
Quote from: HyperZoneWasAwesome on August 01, 2012, 02:36:49 AM
I would shit a brick if any 3DS game did those sales at any point in the lifetime of the system in America.

Its just not ever going to happen.  That's not to say the 3DS won't and can't have a long and healthy life, I actually think it'll do somewhat well.  But the new normal for this kinda thing is going to scale way downwards from the previous generation.

and that could very well be the case with the next line of big boy systems too.

That million for each version would already be a decline of 20% from the previous installment.  I expect it to sell less.  More than that would be a pretty clear signal, I'd think.

And a 3DS game has already done those kind of numbers in North America: Mario Kart 7 did 1.2 million in its first month.

Oh snap
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: frod on August 01, 2012, 08:42:14 AM
I think SCEA are waiting for SCEJ to make it viable to support, and SCEJ don't have a fucking clue.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: archnemesis on August 01, 2012, 09:16:24 AM
I don't expect much more support from Sony's western studios. Uncharted, ModNation Racers, MotorStorm, MLB: The Show, Resistance, and Wipeout are already available for the system. LittleBigPlanet, Sony Smash Bros., Killzone, Sly Cooper and Sound Shapes are on their way. What else is there? Ratchet, inFamous and God of War?
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on August 01, 2012, 03:19:56 PM
For a console thats aimed at Japan they sure have a lot of Western games on it.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Joe Molotov on August 01, 2012, 03:50:42 PM
Quote from: The Experiment on July 31, 2012, 07:26:34 PM
Given how Sony barely cared to promote the thing, I really wonder if they will just "streamline operations," ditch the Vita, and focus entirely on the PS4.

That hasn't already happened?
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: maxy on August 02, 2012, 02:56:46 PM
http://www.sony.net/SonyInfo/IR/financial/fr/12q1_sony.pdf

Sony released Q1 results,$300 million+ loss,blah blah

No PS3 or Vita data anymore,only PS2+PS3 and PSP +Vita(Sony refused to disclose data to shareholders)

PSP+Vita forecast revised by -4  million
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Huff on August 02, 2012, 11:36:48 PM
yo oscar, think gravity rush has a chance of getting a sequel based on the data and sales you have?
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Damian79 on August 03, 2012, 02:54:44 AM
Does anyone have the tie ratios for the consoles this gen?  I want them so i can multiply them with hardware sales and price of games to determine the "winnar" this gen.


All i got is this:

http://www.vgchartz.com/analysis/platform_totals/Tie-Ratio/Global/

Xbox 360 9.65
 PS3 8.59
 Wii 8.28
 
So we can estimate how much in dollars they have sold world wide.
 360:
 9.65(tie ratio) x 68.3(units) x 60(price of games)= 39.5 billion dollars
 
ps3:
 8.59 x 66 x 60= 34.5 billion dollars
 
Wii
 8.28 x 96.5 x 50=  39.9 billion dollars
 
Looks to me a close race, however it will be 360 the winner at the end of this gen, followed by Nintendo followed by Sony.  All by the narrowest of margins.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: archnemesis on August 03, 2012, 03:36:55 AM
You also have to take average selling price and costs into account for it to be meaningful. VGChartz have a history of making up numbers. You're better off using other sources.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Takao on August 03, 2012, 04:18:31 AM
There's also the variable price of software. Not every game is sold at $60.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Damian79 on August 03, 2012, 04:29:16 AM
Thats true.  Yeah i hate to use vgcharts.  And yeah variable software prices mixes things up.

Oscar do they reveal how much money they made?  I guess i will have to looks at their financial reports for that.  Interesting.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: archnemesis on August 03, 2012, 04:56:37 AM
Yes, most of the relevant data can be found in the financial statements. Here is a quick summary for Sony.

(http://i.imgur.com/S6asr.png)
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Damian79 on August 03, 2012, 05:45:25 AM
Found this on Neogaf:

(http://i.imgur.com/P7pGx.png)

I worked it out to ~ 5 billion that Sony lost.  Which was ~400 billion yen.

I worked it out to roughly ~ 24 Billion Dollars Nintendo made.  Which was ~ 1886 billion yen.

I used the financial charts to get those numbers not this graph.

Found this using google.

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-vAR8NzrTP2o/T_qmhzlOa8I/AAAAAAAAolw/u-2iGoKNFiQ/s1600/chart-of-the-day-microsoft-operating-income-losses-on-entertainment-and-devices-june-2012.jpg)

I worked it out to ~425(+ or - 200 since i got my numbers off that graph) million loss counting from 4th quarter 2005.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Damian79 on August 03, 2012, 06:04:29 AM
Zune really was a flop wasnt it?
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Damian79 on August 03, 2012, 06:22:17 AM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on August 03, 2012, 06:17:17 AM
definitely seems that way, but we'll never know exactly how much of one because they hid it amongst the profits of the xbox, like how nintendo hid the gamecube in the gba.

Never thought about it that way.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on August 03, 2012, 04:08:49 PM
I don't expect the 'real'  pokemon 3ds to do considerably worse than its predecessors, but I don't think its going to be a barometer for the 3ds's prospects going forward because

a.  Western support isn't there and never will be there outside of stuff like scribblenaughts and the occasional cartoon tie-in shlock

b.  The retail market is increasingly unfavorable to Japanese localizations.

Nintendo needs to pick up the slack and release a steady stream of affordable content if they want to have a chance of keeping the platform relevant.  The biggest misstep all along was $40 usd standard. 
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Tasty on August 03, 2012, 10:41:50 PM
Are those US numbers?

Also HeartGold didn't make it when DPPt and SS did? Hrm... also, no BW?
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Tasty on August 03, 2012, 11:53:34 PM
I'm quite surprised Platinum sold so well.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Positive Touch on August 04, 2012, 12:57:32 AM
cosign if you played most of those games
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Tasty on August 04, 2012, 02:14:20 AM
Quote from: Positive Touch on August 04, 2012, 12:57:32 AM
cosign if you played most of those games

Hrm, counting Diamong as Pearl since they're basically the same...

DS Top 15:
New Super Mario Bros., Mario Kart, Super Mario 64 DS, Brain Age, Mario Party, Pokemon Diamond, Brain Age 2, Cooking Mama, Pokemon Pearl, Nintendo Dogs Daschund, Pokemon Platinum, Lego Star Wars Complete, Pokemon Soul Silver, Animal Crossing, Nintendo Dogs Labrador.

Seems like it,yeah.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on August 04, 2012, 10:47:32 AM
I'm glad Super Mario 64 DS did well.  That game was great but got shat on over at GAF.  Sorry but if you can't get 150 stars in that game, you're a pussy.  Stop bitching about the controls.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: archie4208 on August 04, 2012, 10:54:53 AM
Diablo 3 sold 10 million.  :'(
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on August 04, 2012, 03:31:44 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on August 03, 2012, 10:14:40 PM
I don't see how your two points are meaningfully different from the prior handheld market situation, EmCee.  Western support has never been there for Nintendo's handhelds outside the odd title and a ton of cartoon/movie tie-in shit, and I certainly hope you didn't get the impression that Japanese localizations were selling more than 30-50k even in the DS's prime, outside of Square Enix's stuff, Mega Man, and Castlevania.

Want to see what sold Nintendo handhelds?

DS Top 15:
New Super Mario Bros., Mario Kart, Super Mario 64 DS, Brain Age, Mario Party, Pokemon Diamond, Brain Age 2, Cooking Mama, Pokemon Pearl, Nintendo Dogs Daschund, Pokemon Platinum, Lego Star Wars Complete, Pokemon Soul Silver, Animal Crossing, Nintendo Dogs Labrador.

GBA Top 15:
Super Mario Advance 2, Super Mario Advance, Pokemon Fire Red, Pokemon Emerald, Namco Museum, Pokemon Ruby, Super Mario Advance 4, Pokemon Sapphire, Mario Kart, Pokemon Leaf Green, Frogger for some fucking reason, Pac-Man Collection, Link to the Past, Cars, Finding Nemo.

Thanks for the perspective.  I'll amend my statement to say it reflects a more personal desire for certain stuff that I feel like we won't be getting this time around.  By this same respective amount of time on the market the ds had more stuff I was interested in.

Wait, I thought Trauma Center 1 did pretty well?
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: tiesto on August 05, 2012, 10:43:52 AM
Quote from: Borys on August 05, 2012, 07:47:03 AM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on August 04, 2012, 09:59:01 PM
Trauma Centre did fine, yeah.  The first one, anyway.  I don't see any reason to expect 3DS games can't have hits on its level, though.  But you're right, there is a difference in the library.  I think a lot of that is owing to the fact that the 3DS really doesn't bring anything new and interesting interface-wise to the table.  Adding to that, a lot of things that might have made experimental cart releases are launching into the eShop, some of them never making it out of one region.

The DS was pretty amazing.  I don't think we're going to see a dedicated handheld like it ever again.  But make no mistake - for us, having stuff like Trauma Centre made it better, but for the masses, it's Mario and Pokemon, all day, all night.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OuZqh_U2JG4

Never was a fan of this song, too "dooka dooka dooka dooka" tech house for my taste.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: maxy on August 08, 2012, 05:40:57 AM
http://www.mcvnordic.com/news/read/mojang-more-than-doubles-second-year-profits/0100884

Quote
Mojang, the Swedish indie developer that still only has Minecraft to its credit, made a profit of around 60 million SEK (almost 7.2 million Euro) last year, and this year looks set to more than double it, according to CEO Carl Manneh.

The studio is currently working on a role playing card game called Scrolls, and working with smaller developers to publish their games (currently we know of Cobalt, which is still in alpha testing). But their main cash cow is still Minecraft, which still sells just as well as it did before release (!), in addition to the new Xbox 360 version, which sells around 17,000 units daily and several smartphone versions. But last year, when the company pulled in around 550 million SEK, 425 million went straight to Notch Development, founder Markus ‘Notch’ Perssons own company. This year, most of the money will go straight to Mojang, since they have officially taken over the development of the game from Persson. Who still stands to make quite a wad of cash as he is one of the biggest owners of Mojang.

“Since Mojang keeps more of the earnings from the new Minecraft versions, our turnover increases a lot this year,” Manneh tells IT24. “Our profits will more than double. Markus’ company will also make more money, though perhaps not as high a percentage as Mojang.”

Mojang has also moved into a bigger office, one with more than one bathroom, and their future looks very bright. If you want to read more about them, check out Thomas Arnroth’s article at IT24. If you want to meet them, you can always go to Minecon, which will be held in Eurodisney in November. All of Eurodisney.

 :lol

Quote
But their main cash cow is still Minecraft, which still sells just as well as it did before release (!), in addition to the new Xbox 360 version, which sells around 17,000 units daily and several smartphone versions.

That shit is $20,xbots have officially gone crazy

 :yuck :yuck
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: etiolate on August 09, 2012, 04:21:21 AM
This seemed up your guys' alley.

http://www.kdbdw.com/bbs/download/161672.pdf?attachmentId=161672

NCSoft rumored to be looking for a Merger & Acquisition of a western company. Possibly a joint venture between NCSoft and Nexon.

For some reason, I don't think it's EA. Maybe THQ? But THQs lineup doesn't really fit either company's online specialty.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Tasty on August 09, 2012, 04:47:58 AM
:bow Dat mad MapleStory monayz. :bow2
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: tiesto on August 09, 2012, 08:49:59 AM
Isn't Richard Garriott at NCSoft? If so I'd hope NCSoft buys out EA, aborts that Ultima facebook atrocity and then has Garriott develop an all new, no bullshit, single player classic-styled Ultima.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: The Sceneman on August 09, 2012, 09:04:48 AM
Quote from: maxy on August 08, 2012, 05:40:57 AM
http://www.mcvnordic.com/news/read/mojang-more-than-doubles-second-year-profits/0100884

Quote
Mojang, the Swedish indie developer that still only has Minecraft to its credit, made a profit of around 60 million SEK (almost 7.2 million Euro) last year, and this year looks set to more than double it, according to CEO Carl Manneh.

The studio is currently working on a role playing card game called Scrolls, and working with smaller developers to publish their games (currently we know of Cobalt, which is still in alpha testing). But their main cash cow is still Minecraft, which still sells just as well as it did before release (!), in addition to the new Xbox 360 version, which sells around 17,000 units daily and several smartphone versions. But last year, when the company pulled in around 550 million SEK, 425 million went straight to Notch Development, founder Markus ‘Notch’ Perssons own company. This year, most of the money will go straight to Mojang, since they have officially taken over the development of the game from Persson. Who still stands to make quite a wad of cash as he is one of the biggest owners of Mojang.

“Since Mojang keeps more of the earnings from the new Minecraft versions, our turnover increases a lot this year,” Manneh tells IT24. “Our profits will more than double. Markus’ company will also make more money, though perhaps not as high a percentage as Mojang.”

Mojang has also moved into a bigger office, one with more than one bathroom, and their future looks very bright. If you want to read more about them, check out Thomas Arnroth’s article at IT24. If you want to meet them, you can always go to Minecon, which will be held in Eurodisney in November. All of Eurodisney.

 :lol

Quote
But their main cash cow is still Minecraft, which still sells just as well as it did before release (!), in addition to the new Xbox 360 version, which sells around 17,000 units daily and several smartphone versions.

That shit is $20,xbots have officially gone crazy

 :yuck :yuck

yeah, $20 for a videogame, insane  ::)

Minecraft is very, very good and deserving of it's success
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Great Rumbler on August 09, 2012, 10:26:48 AM
Quote from: tiesto on August 09, 2012, 08:49:59 AM
Isn't Richard Garriott at NCSoft?

Richard Garriott hasn't been at NCSoft since 2008. And given that he sued them to the tune of $28 million after his departure, he's not likely to ever be back.

He's currently at his own company, Portalarium, working on a Facebook MMO.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Takao on August 09, 2012, 07:27:05 PM
Quote from: Great Rumbler on August 09, 2012, 10:26:48 AM
Quote from: tiesto on August 09, 2012, 08:49:59 AM
Isn't Richard Garriott at NCSoft?

Richard Garriott hasn't been at NCSoft since 2008. And given that he sued them to the tune of $28 million after his departure, he's not likely to ever be back.

He's currently at his own company, Portalarium, working on a Facebook MMO.

So what you're saying is that if Garriott still was at EA he'd be making an Ultima Facebook game. tiesto am crai
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Joe Molotov on August 09, 2012, 08:01:28 PM
Quote from: etiolate on August 09, 2012, 04:21:21 AM
This seemed up your guys' alley.

http://www.kdbdw.com/bbs/download/161672.pdf?attachmentId=161672

NCSoft rumored to be looking for a Merger & Acquisition of a western company. Possibly a joint venture between NCSoft and Nexon.

For some reason, I don't think it's EA. Maybe THQ? But THQs lineup doesn't really fit either company's online specialty.

Maple Story just appeared on Steam today, NCSoft/Nexon/Valve developing a Steambox confirmed!
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: etiolate on August 10, 2012, 12:44:04 AM
The Vivendi selling actiblizz rumor is still going. Forbes recently had a piece based on it.

AND THEY MENTION SALES SO NUHHHH

But really, I think it's THQ.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: maxy on August 10, 2012, 02:31:11 AM
Quote from: The Sceneman on August 09, 2012, 09:04:48 AM
Quote from: maxy on August 08, 2012, 05:40:57 AM
http://www.mcvnordic.com/news/read/mojang-more-than-doubles-second-year-profits/0100884

Quote
...

 :lol

Quote
But their main cash cow is still Minecraft, which still sells just as well as it did before release (!), in addition to the new Xbox 360 version, which sells around 17,000 units daily and several smartphone versions.

That shit is $20,xbots have officially gone crazy

 :yuck :yuck

yeah, $20 for a videogame, insane  ::)

Minecraft is very, very good and deserving of it's success

whatever,xbot



NPD day

This is supposedly very close

360 - 203K
PS3 - 140K
3DS - 131K
WII - 70K
PSV - 48.5K

PS2 - 1000 units
PSP<<30k
PSP+Vita<Wii
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Tasty on August 10, 2012, 03:03:57 AM
Those numbers make me sick to my stomach. Possibly the worst NPD I've ever seen.  :-X :-\

3DS needs to be hitting it out of the park right now in its lifecycle but it just isn't. Hopefully NSMB2 changes things. Honestly I wasn't hyped at all and I still think they've oversaturating the Mario market, but it got an 8.0 from GT so maybe it isn't as bad as I thought it'd be. Hope consumers agree, for the 3DS' sake.
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Post by: archnemesis on August 10, 2012, 03:20:52 AM
GameTrailers' use the 7-10 scale though and they spend half of the review saying it felt uninspired and unoriginal. It's most likely a good game, but I'm not sure the average customer needs four New Super Mario Bros. games.
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Post by: Tasty on August 10, 2012, 03:51:27 AM
Quote from: archnemesis on August 10, 2012, 03:20:52 AM
GameTrailers' use the 7-10 scale though and they spend half of the review saying it felt uninspired and unoriginal. It's most likely a good game, but I'm not sure the average customer needs four New Super Mario Bros. games.

I agree with that, I was actually expecting a 6-7 based on what they were saying (although it got more positive towards the end.) I'm happy full co-op is included, even if it is only  two player and does require two carts. I think that's an important part of the NSMB series going forward and a key differentiator to other old-school-ish platformers and old Mario games, for that matter.

I don't think the issue is the total sum, on the contrary I think it's pretty cool we're getting a handful of modernized 2D Mario platformers.

But the timing is seriously off. SM3DL for 3DS came out last year, NSMB U later this year. NSMB2 should be next year at the absolute earliest, if not 2014, if they want to avoid brand fatigue. But to Nintendo right now, I can see why they'd choose to pump the 3DS up with all they got over concerns of brand fatigue. They'll have to deal with the consequences both ways (boosted 3DS sales at the cost of people getting a bit tired of Mario.)

It also weakens the Wii U launch by diluting the "specialness" of 2D Mario, especially since they're probably three months apart from eachother.

I think a new 3DS Zelda title would have been a much better option, maybe not for sales but if they timed it with the XL launch I think it would have done really well regardless.

Not much use complaining now, it is what it is. We're getting three Mario platformers in the span of a single year. The market will decide if that's too much, but I wouldn't really complain if Nintendo let the old guy rest a bit (and this coming from a self-confessed Ninthing, so that should say something.) I don't mind a new game in a Nintendo series every two years, one year is a bit close to Activision's milking but still tolerable. Once a gen like Kart and Brawl are what I personally prefer. Three in a year is just too much, but again, I understand why they're doing it.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: archie4208 on August 10, 2012, 08:37:08 AM
Man, console and dedicated handheld gaming are legitimately dying.  I don't remember EOL sales for last gen being that dire. 
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Post by: maxy on August 10, 2012, 12:13:01 PM
I don't think console hardware sales are bad(360 at least).200k in a slow 4 week NPD month is pretty decent.

Software sales,yeah but on the other hand we don't have Xbox Live data and NPD data is not available to public anymore.

The real question is,why are those (software)sales going down?
Gen fatigue, recession or maybe something else?

I guess we will get an answer after PS4/720 release.

As for handhelds,they are on its way out.
Sooner or later somebody will produce cheap (x86)win tablet(good for work,steam,every emulator under the sun,piracy,iso,tons of legacy software...).Not sure how any dedicated handheld can compete with something like that,maybe in kids space but parents will choose "it can be used for school,learning...and games" device,assuming it's cheap enough.

Mobile is like the most shittiest place to compete in.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on August 10, 2012, 11:34:39 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on August 10, 2012, 10:49:24 PM
Sorry, but those console hardware sales *are* bad.  You can think salt is sweet and rhinos fly, but it ain't so.

Last year 360 sales were 277k, Wii was 190k, and PS3 was 148k.  And *those* sales were bad already.  2010, 360 was 444k, Wii was 255k, PS3 215k.  2009, the 360 was 200k, the Wii was 250k, and the PS3 was 115k.

Console hardware sales are way down.  You don't even want to *look* at last gen.  They're taking it just as hard in the ass as the handhelds are, except with the console hardware we can at least make believe the reason is that the generation is long in the tooth.  We can make believe that.  It's not true, though. 

The truth is that for the masses, their gaming needs are being met by social PC games and smartphone games that give them dozens of hours of entertainment for pennies on the dollar compared to console games.  Handhelds are smarting the most from this, but it's absolutely affecting consoles too, and not in a small way.  People have a choice between free/99 cents and $40-60, and there's little surprise in the outcome.

Yep.

Hell, I got the DS and PSP on day one but I have yet to even own a 3DS or Vita.  As much as I hate iOS gaming, the few bursts of game time I have with some of the Cave iOS games for instance satisfies my handheld gaming needs.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Purple Filth on August 11, 2012, 02:34:18 AM
Handhelds :violin
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Post by: maxy on August 11, 2012, 03:05:18 AM
bunch of pessimists,blah
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Post by: Damian79 on August 11, 2012, 04:59:25 AM
Anyone wanna guess how much playstation all stars will sell in its first week in North America?  I will give them 20 dollars AUS via paypal.  Just to make things interesting.
From wiki:
SSBM sold 250k in 9 days(i assume that is the month)

SSBB sold 2.9Million in its first month


http://www.ign.com/boards/threads/who-loves-sales-figures.452493262/
As for totals according to gamecharts.fr:
SSBM sold 7.4 million
SSBB sold 10.8 million


Seriously leaves a bad taste in my mouth that SSBB outsold SSBM.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Tasty on August 11, 2012, 05:02:49 AM
Well Brawl is vastly superior to Melee, so it shouldn't be too much of a surprise.
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Post by: Takao on August 11, 2012, 06:46:57 AM
Quote from: Andrex on August 11, 2012, 05:02:49 AM
Well Brawl is vastly superior to Melee, so it shouldn't be too much of a surprise.

True story, I played Melee and the original SSB with friends for years. I played Brawl for a week, even with its powerpoint online mode.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Tasty on August 11, 2012, 06:51:11 AM
Quote from: Takao on August 11, 2012, 06:46:57 AM
Quote from: Andrex on August 11, 2012, 05:02:49 AM
Well Brawl is vastly superior to Melee, so it shouldn't be too much of a surprise.

True story, I played Melee and the original SSB with friends for years. I played Brawl for a week, even with its powerpoint online mode.

Takao when SSB was released: 7 years old
Takao when SSBM was released: 9 years old

Could it be you were just more receptive of Mario and pals at those ages?
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Post by: Takao on August 11, 2012, 07:03:32 AM
Man, I never knew I went through the Pokemon aging cycle. I aged 2 years while everyone else aged 7...
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Post by: Tasty on August 11, 2012, 07:10:27 AM
Quote from: Takao on August 11, 2012, 07:03:32 AM
Man, I never knew I went through the Pokemon aging cycle. I aged 2 years while everyone else aged 7...

That is weird, since there were only two years between SSB and SSBM.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Takao on August 11, 2012, 07:12:19 AM
Oh, I thought you wrote out Melee and Brawl. Whoops.
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Post by: Tasty on August 11, 2012, 08:10:39 AM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on August 11, 2012, 07:40:08 AM
Brawl sold better than Melee on the Sins of the Father principle.  Often with games (movies too), at least in the short term, the success of a product rests on the reputation of its predecessor.  MGS1 was off da hook, MGS2 sold like crazy.  MGS2 made people's heads hurt, MGS3 sold like poop.  Melee was following the rather low-key SSB, so its first month was slow.  Brawl was following the extremely beloved Melee, so its first month was nuts.  The next SSB is probably going to open worse than Brawl.

I like to think of that as the Sonic principle. Adventure got a free pass cause of the 2D games, Unleashed got raked to hell on the back of 2006's abominable sins, Colors was only lukewarm received when it should have gotten much more enthusiasm from gamers, and Generations won the hearts of the gaming press for furrydom once more.

(Although for Colors and Generations there might be a console bias.)

It won't help the next Smash that the Wii U will sell a lot less than the Wii, I'm sure.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Purple Filth on August 11, 2012, 08:58:11 AM
Quote from: Andrex on August 11, 2012, 05:02:49 AM
Well Brawl is vastly superior to Melee, so it shouldn't be too much of a surprise.

WTF is this garbage?



And yea Brawl sold due to hype coming off melee
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Positive Touch on August 11, 2012, 01:22:09 PM
i dunno about anyone else, but personally i'm excited for the possibilities of streaming affordable gameplay from integrated devices as opposed to paying a fuckin fortune for a mostly-dedicated device that runs stupid-overpriced games
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Post by: tiesto on August 11, 2012, 01:36:35 PM
I just want a physical copy of a game that will work 30 years from now, without worry about servers going down.
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Post by: Trent Dole on August 11, 2012, 04:52:51 PM
The tech in current gen consoles is kind of old as fuck at this point and the entry level pricing begins at $200 still and the economicaly sucks right now and lots of use of the word and so those numbers aren't all that shocking to me.
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Post by: Tasty on August 11, 2012, 09:16:42 PM
So why haven't any of the consoles switched to ARM?

Not going Intel I can get (except for MS, I think it was a minor mistake ditching it in the 360 but whatevs), but ARM is like... Open, isn't it? And it's in the headlines a lot these days. Isn't PowerPC abandoned at this point?
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on August 11, 2012, 09:42:58 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on August 11, 2012, 09:16:52 PM
Quote from: Andrex on August 11, 2012, 08:10:39 AM
I like to think of that as the Sonic principle. Adventure got a free pass cause of the 2D games, Unleashed got raked to hell on the back of 2006's abominable sins, Colors was only lukewarm received when it should have gotten much more enthusiasm from gamers, and Generations won the hearts of the gaming press for furrydom once more.

(Although for Colors and Generations there might be a console bias.)

It won't help the next Smash that the Wii U will sell a lot less than the Wii, I'm sure.

That doesn't make sense, though.  First of all, you're skipping installments to fit your curve.  Unleashed was not the Sonic game that immediately followed 2006, the rather successful Secret Rings (million seller) was.  After that was Unleashed, which sold about the same number of copies as Secret Rings, then Black Knight, which sold quite poorly, then Colors, which sold poorly but better than Black Knight.  Then, the real killer here, is Sonic Generations, which series-wise followed the well-liked Colors, and console-wise followed the fairly well-liked Unleashed, but proceeded to sell the lowest numbers for the series to date.

Sonic as a series actually contradicts my Sins of the Father theory.

Yet it works perfectly with my Sins of the Furry theory
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Post by: Takao on August 11, 2012, 10:06:44 PM
Quote from: tiesto on August 11, 2012, 01:36:35 PM
I just want a physical copy of a game that will work 30 years from now, without worry about servers going down.

I think there will be physical games for people like you who want the shelf full of crap they can go and pick out 20+ years from now, but it's going to be a tiny niche. Like print on demand only niche.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Cascade on August 14, 2012, 04:50:55 PM
From GAF:
Quote
I know the sales figures of the Vita in a large UK retailer so far this year.

Without stating any specific details, more copies of Sin and Punishment 2 were sold nationwide since March than the Vita. Also, more PS2s and PSPs.

Its pretty fucking dire.
Dat Sony brand power. Vita is completely dead, anyone with any sense would sell theirs now whilst it still has some value. It's a shame it wasn't the 3DS in its place though.
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Post by: tiesto on August 14, 2012, 04:54:21 PM
Quote from: Cascade on August 14, 2012, 04:50:55 PM
From GAF:
Quote
I know the sales figures of the Vita in a large UK retailer so far this year.

Without stating any specific details, more copies of Sin and Punishment 2 were sold nationwide since March than the Vita. Also, more PS2s and PSPs.

Its pretty fucking dire.
Dat Sony brand power. Vita is completely dead, anyone with any sense would sell theirs now whilst it still has some value. It's a shame it wasn't the 3DS in its place though.

Nice, Sin and Punishment 2 deserves some more sales. What an amazing and highly underappreciated game.
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Post by: Tasty on August 14, 2012, 05:56:06 PM
S&P2 is like, bomba personified, I know there are like some no-name/Xseed games that probably sold worse but S&P2 is the most "cult classic"-y massive bomba in my mind.

That it's selling more than the Vita, over two years since its release, is about as bad as any big boy system can sell.
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Post by: Tasty on August 14, 2012, 06:01:14 PM
Quote from: Borys on August 14, 2012, 04:53:33 PM
Bububu Killzone: On-Rails.

Is it really on rails or are you tugging me under the table while my parents sit across from us?
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Takao on August 14, 2012, 06:05:16 PM
Quote from: Andrex on August 14, 2012, 06:01:14 PM
Quote from: Borys on August 14, 2012, 04:53:33 PM
Bububu Killzone: On-Rails.

Is it really on rails or are you tugging me under the table while my parents sit across from us?

You know that in the time it took you to type that post you could've used your beloved Google to find the answer, right? The answer is no, its not on-rails.
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Post by: Tasty on August 14, 2012, 06:09:27 PM
But then Google would know I searched for Killzone and I wouldn't get any more ads for Pokemon body pillows.
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Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on August 14, 2012, 07:42:53 PM
The Vita is deader than dead at this point.  I could see the scant shelf space dedicated to the Vita get cleared out for the Wii U this fall by retailers, narrowing down the places you could get Vita hardware, software, and accessories to places like Gamestop.
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Post by: Takao on August 14, 2012, 07:49:44 PM
Quote from: Borys on August 14, 2012, 06:13:48 PM
Quote from: Andrex on August 14, 2012, 06:01:14 PM
Quote from: Borys on August 14, 2012, 04:53:33 PM
Bububu Killzone: On-Rails.

Is it really on rails or are you tugging me under the table while my parents sit across from us?

Dat family dinner footjob :drool

Takao: but it looks kinda like on-rails. This is a full fledged FPS? Not some gallery shooter or something like that?

There is no indication it isn't anything other than a full FPS. In the trailer you saw the player move around a bit.
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Post by: Positive Touch on August 14, 2012, 08:32:32 PM
Quote from: The Experiment on August 14, 2012, 07:42:53 PM
The Vita is deader than dead at this point.  I could see the scant shelf space dedicated to the Vita get cleared out for the Wii U this fall by retailers, narrowing down the places you could get Vita hardware, software, and accessories to places like Gamestop.

so which did worse: the vita or the virtual boy?  also is it worse than the game gear, lynx, etc?
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Post by: pilonv1 on August 14, 2012, 11:19:41 PM
I think it's ahead of the N-Gage too
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Post by: pilonv1 on August 14, 2012, 11:26:43 PM
Depends, Nokia was known for using shipped not sold numbers initially.
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Post by: pilonv1 on August 14, 2012, 11:35:25 PM
The life of a mobile handset is much shorter so that's not surprising. I think I still have both my N-Gages somewhere.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Tasty on August 15, 2012, 04:52:14 AM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on August 14, 2012, 11:15:23 PM
The Vita has outsold the Virtual Boy and the Neo Geo Pocket now.  It should soon pass the Turbo Express but it's not quite there yet.  Down the road it might pass the Wonderswan.  It has a chance (albeit not guaranteed by any means) of passing the Atari Lynx provided Sony doesn't just write the whole thing off within a year.  It will never pass the Game Gear, though.

So in the pantheon of handheld game system sales:

Nintendo DS/i > GameBoy/Color > GameBoy Advance > PlayStation Portable/Go > Game Gear > Atari Lynx > Wonderswan/Color > N-Gage/QD > TurboGrafx Express > PlayStation Vita > Neo Geo Pocket/Color > Virtual Boy

Is that accurate?
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Post by: T-Short on August 15, 2012, 05:02:02 AM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on August 14, 2012, 11:33:15 PM
Yep, but I've no doubt they managed to distribute all of those shipped phones eventually, even if they went out the door as $0 with contract, or as Paygo phones.  The Vita will eventually sell everything Sony shipped, too.  Maybe.

Bulldozed into a Finnish desert
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Post by: archnemesis on August 15, 2012, 05:04:54 AM
The list on Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_game_consoles#Worldwide) is usually accurate enough for listing best-selling systems.

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  • Nintendo DS
  • Game Boy and Game Boy Color
  • Game Boy Advance
  • PlayStation Portable
  • Nintendo 3DS
  • Game Gear
  • N-Gage
  • Neo Geo Pocket and Neo Geo Pocket Color
  • → PlayStation Vita ←
  • TurboExpress
  • Nomad

Edit: If you want to look at the sales of some of the lesser known systems, take a look at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_handheld_game_consoles
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Post by: archnemesis on August 15, 2012, 05:14:50 AM
The source for that number is an old GamePro article that use unchecked and unsourced well-rounded numbers. I think you're right.
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Post by: Tasty on August 15, 2012, 05:15:28 AM
Huh I forgot the 3DS on my list. :lol
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Post by: archnemesis on August 15, 2012, 05:22:26 AM
I'm probably wrong, but I think the Vita will end up in 6th place after the PSP and all the successful Nintendo handhelds.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Takao on August 15, 2012, 06:47:26 AM
I always felt lumping GB and GBC together didn't feel right. Colour is a pretty big leap forward, and it launched well after the brickboy. Do we have any individual sales for them?
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Post by: archnemesis on August 15, 2012, 06:56:55 AM
There is no source for Game Boy Color sales on Wikipedia, but an old NeoGAF post mentioned it sold about 49 million worldwide.
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Post by: Tasty on August 15, 2012, 07:31:26 AM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on August 14, 2012, 11:33:15 PM
Yep, but I've no doubt they managed to distribute all of those shipped phones eventually, even if they went out the door as $0 with contract, or as Paygo phones.  The Vita will eventually sell everything Sony shipped, too.  Maybe.

What's the discrepancy between shipped/sold? Did they really ship 16 million (+PSP) or whatever lucicrous number they projected before revising them?
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Post by: Fifstar on August 20, 2012, 01:07:08 PM
Vita sold 2.2 million units to date according to playstation germany chief Bassendowski.
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Post by: Great Rumbler on August 20, 2012, 01:43:59 PM
That's bad.
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Post by: Eel O'Brian on August 20, 2012, 04:48:58 PM
Really bad. The BEST they can hope for is 10% of those 2.2 million buying a particular game at any given time, and the reality is probably closer to half that if it isn't one of their biggest franchises.
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Post by: Great Rumbler on August 20, 2012, 04:55:54 PM
To put that into a little perspective, the 3DS already has sold 7 million in Japan [less than 1.5 million behind the PS3] and 19 million worldwide.
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Post by: Cerveza mas fina on August 20, 2012, 05:03:59 PM
Im happy im getting out of the gaming biz!
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Post by: Eel O'Brian on August 20, 2012, 05:05:59 PM
they'd have to do something drastic to even partially recover, and they're apparently unable to

other than outright abandoning it, another scenario is that they might just ride out the bad sales until the PS4 releases, then start bundling Vitas in with that bargain bin PS3 redesign, selling it as a Wii U type package - they're already beginning to push the "Vita as PS3 Controller" feature

but really, it's kinda over for it as any kind of standalone product, you know your shit is bad when you can't even get Gameloft to churn out their clones
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Post by: Cerveza mas fina on August 20, 2012, 05:11:22 PM
Even Gameloft needs 50/100k sales, and they pull that on Android with every game even at 5 bucks. They wouldnt do that on Vita though.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Tasty on August 20, 2012, 05:20:12 PM
Quote from: Great Rumbler on August 20, 2012, 01:43:59 PM
That's bad.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IxjZ04T6Boo&feature=player_detailpage#t=13s
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Post by: Tasty on August 30, 2012, 12:35:19 AM
Holy CRAP NSMB2 has sold almost 1 mil (in Japan) already (not counting eShop sales.) Jeeze.

I was wondering how it would do, guess it's safe to say that although Mario fatigue is settling in slightly it ain't enough to stop the NSMB train.
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Post by: Tasty on August 30, 2012, 12:58:06 AM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on August 30, 2012, 12:40:41 AM
eShop sales are 5% of retail (according to Iwata), and yeah, a million is great, but it's selling considerably worse (and showing much weaker legs) than the other two NSMB games.  Selling basically half as well half as quickly.

I never thought it could reach 20 mil like the other two, but I expected it to end up worse than it seems like it's going to.

For a game made by interns, I think it'll do just fine. Despite the numbering, NSMBU is going to be the real 2D Mario showpiece this year.

You could make the argument NSMB2 has eaten into U's eventual sales, but to paraphrase old Jobs-y: "If we don't cannibalize ourselves, someone else will."
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Post by: Tasty on August 30, 2012, 12:45:04 PM
Sony: "Vita is pretty much along where we would expect it to be, maybe trending behind in certain territories." :derp
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Post by: fistfulofmetal on September 06, 2012, 06:56:50 PM
Darksiders 2 :bow2

chances of there being a Darksiders 3 increasing :bow2
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Tasty on September 06, 2012, 07:01:06 PM
Wow, NSMB2 resurgent. Need to see hardware sales to tell if it had an effect.
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Post by: FoneBone on September 06, 2012, 07:15:14 PM
Apparently Darksiders II did only 247K, sooo.... not pretty all around.
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Post by: Great Rumbler on September 06, 2012, 07:26:45 PM
Quote from: FoneBone on September 06, 2012, 07:15:14 PM
Apparently Darksiders II did only 247K, sooo.... not pretty all around.

Ouch.
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Post by: EmCeeGrammar on September 06, 2012, 07:51:38 PM
yeah, thq is always going on about how they needed to sell x millions of copies on their marquee titles to break even, so darksiders 2 numbers are bad in that light.  Although I think kingdom hearts did ok all things considered, I expected much better from mario.  I'll restrain myself from remarking on its performance until someone (oscar?) can put this into perspective of when nsmb1 launched.

All in all, a sad time for the hobby and I must just have to bail out if things don't turn around.  Fuck freemium business models.
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Post by: Great Rumbler on September 06, 2012, 07:57:28 PM
Looks like it sold roughly the same as the first did in its opening month [Xbox360 version was 10th overall with 170k and the PS3 was 14th, but the sales weren't listed].
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Post by: EmCeeGrammar on September 06, 2012, 07:58:44 PM
Madden is next reporting period I believe.  It's already done like a million units.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Great Rumbler on September 06, 2012, 08:01:56 PM
Quote from: EmCeeGrammar on September 06, 2012, 07:58:44 PM
Madden is next reporting period I believe.  It's already done like a million units.

August is apparently a slow month, outside of the annual Madden blitz.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Purple Filth on September 06, 2012, 08:11:59 PM
Your thoughts on Mario sales Oscar?


http://nintendoeverything.com/98208/august-2012-npd-nintendos-response-nsmb2-and-kh3d-sales/

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New Super Mario Bros. 2 Emerges as the Best-Selling Video Game of August
 
Even with only five days of reported data, Nintendo 3DS XL and New Super Mario Bros. 2 still had major impacts on the August video game market. The new hardware, which features 90 percent larger screens than the original Nintendo 3DS, and the new side-scrolling Mario adventure both launched on Aug. 19 and helped Nintendo achieve the following:
 
•Nintendo 3DS software sales increased by more than 68 percent over sales in July.
 •Nintendo 3DS hardware sales increased by more than 36 percent over sales in July.
 •The No. 1 and No. 2 top-selling software SKUs for the month are both exclusive to Nintendo 3DS. New Super Mario Bros. 2 sold more than 240,000 units to finish No. 1, and KINGDOM HEARTS 3D [Dream Drop Distance] from Square Enix sold more than 180,000 copies to finish No. 2.
 
“Software sells hardware, and no one sells either quite like Mario,” said Scott Moffitt, Nintendo of America’s executive vice president of Sales & Marketing. “In addition to helping New Super Mario Bros. 2 get off to a great start, Nintendo 3DS XL is driving increased interest in titles such as Kid Icarus: Uprising, The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time 3D and Mario Kart 7. These games have been on the market for more than six months but provide a completely new experience on the larger screens. Combine these titles with the upcoming Paper Mario: Sticker Star and a robust list of third-party games, and Nintendo 3DS is poised to be high on holiday wish lists this year.”
 
For more information about Nintendo, visit http://www.nintendo.com.


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Kingdom Hearts: Dream Drop Distance - 180k~ (2012/3DS)
Kingdom Hearts: Birth By Sleep - 225k (2010/PSP)

Same amount of days for tracking. Yeash. Square Enix really needs to bring a new console iteration.


Ouch  :'(



Also apparently 3ds sold ~177k for the month and yes that includes the XL
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Joe Molotov on September 06, 2012, 08:28:20 PM
At least the Vita's still out there, making the 3DS look good by comparison.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Purple Filth on September 06, 2012, 08:30:28 PM
Quote from: Joe Molotov® EDGE™ on September 06, 2012, 08:28:20 PM
At least the Vita's still out there, making the 3DS look good by comparison.

i guess but the iOS guys dont give a shit.

vita might be around 50-60k (or less) which is :violin
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Sho Nuff on September 06, 2012, 08:44:41 PM
Who keeps buying Kingdom Hearts games
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Positive Touch on September 06, 2012, 09:25:24 PM
Quote from: Sho Nuff on September 06, 2012, 08:44:41 PM
Who keeps buying Kingdom Hearts games

http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10150952332040841.406533.76090440840&type=3
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Takao on September 06, 2012, 09:31:01 PM
Vita has had its' worse NPD yet. Not entirely shocking given there hasn't been a single retail release since June.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Purple Filth on September 06, 2012, 09:41:23 PM
Quote from: Takao on September 06, 2012, 09:31:01 PM
Vita has had its' worse NPD yet. Not entirely shocking given there hasn't been a single retail release since June.

less than 40K apparently


plus KH did > 200k if you include the special edition version of the game.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Takao on September 06, 2012, 09:48:05 PM
BBS still did better on PSP in 2010. Square Enix really does need a console iteration to revitalize that series.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Tasty on September 06, 2012, 10:13:06 PM
Quote from: Takao on September 06, 2012, 09:48:05 PM
BBS still did better on PSP in 2010. Square Enix really does need a console iteration to revitalize that series.

What was the PSP's install base then?
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Takao on September 06, 2012, 10:20:20 PM
Quote from: Andrex on September 06, 2012, 10:13:06 PM
Quote from: Takao on September 06, 2012, 09:48:05 PM
BBS still did better on PSP in 2010. Square Enix really does need a console iteration to revitalize that series.

What was the PSP's install base then?

Large enough so that MGS: PW struggled to do 50k in its' first month in the US in that same year.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: The Sceneman on September 06, 2012, 11:17:15 PM
Quote from: Great Rumbler on September 06, 2012, 07:26:45 PM
Quote from: FoneBone on September 06, 2012, 07:15:14 PM
Apparently Darksiders II did only 247K, sooo.... not pretty all around.

Ouch.

shit, I was assuming it was gonna do 500k at least.

RIP videogames
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Purple Filth on September 07, 2012, 12:31:39 AM
Quote from: The Sceneman on September 06, 2012, 11:17:15 PM
Quote from: Great Rumbler on September 06, 2012, 07:26:45 PM
Quote from: FoneBone on September 06, 2012, 07:15:14 PM
Apparently Darksiders II did only 247K, sooo.... not pretty all around.

Ouch.

shit, I was assuming it was gonna do 500k at least.

RIP videogames


Well you can hope the PC version sold decent enough (digital distribution and all
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: maxy on September 07, 2012, 01:27:27 AM
psp < vita < 40k < wii < ds < 100k < ps3 < 150k < 3ds < 360

Vitalol

3DSXLlol
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Damian79 on September 07, 2012, 02:38:38 AM
Quote from: maxy on September 07, 2012, 01:27:27 AM
psp < vita < 40k < wii < ds < 100k < ps3 < 150k < 3ds < 360

Vitalol

3DSXLlol

Yeah the 3ds XL is selling abysmally.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Tasty on September 07, 2012, 02:51:36 AM
The quality is kind of shoddy, mine creaks when playing sometimes. It's not coming apart at the seams like Demi's but it doesn't feel too solid.

Still I like how big the screen is. Just need better viewing angles for 3D. Pleasantly surprised with the battery life. Can leave it in sleep mode all day long and get 3-4 hours of straight play in before it goes red. Considering it's measuring my steps, checking StreetPass/SpotPass, etc., that's more than I thought.

A true redesign with nice aesthetics and a refreshed OS would go a long way IMO.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: archnemesis on September 07, 2012, 03:06:53 AM
I'm actually really pleased with the build quality of my 3DS XL. Nothing squeaky or creaky it and it's not falling apart like demi's. Unless Nintendo release a version with non-crappy 3D I'll stick with it until the end of times.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on September 07, 2012, 03:40:13 AM
Holy sheeeet, Darksiders 2 was number 1 with 247k?  Thats horrible.

Feel bad for Sleepin Dogs too.

Then again, this is August, and this gen is in its 6th year.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: maxy on September 07, 2012, 04:20:12 AM
Quote
Can you try to explain why this happens? I mean the install base of the PS360 is humongous. What games are those people buying?

PS2 base is also humongous.People moved on(died) or realized that DD is a pretty good thing(and that will never show up in NPD charts).
Besides why buy something new when you know that in few weeks it will be half the price somewhere.It's not like there is a shortage of games these days.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Raban on September 07, 2012, 05:04:39 AM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on September 07, 2012, 03:48:55 AM
We have trouble seeing it because we're balls deep in this addiction, but most of the people who own consoles really do only dust them off a couple times a year.

I can confirm that I do this.

Mainly because of based PC gaming :bow2
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Purple Filth on September 07, 2012, 05:28:13 AM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on September 07, 2012, 03:48:55 AM
August is typically a slow month, Borys, so that's part of it. Part of it is also that people just aren't interested in those games for full retail price when there's a very rich library of older titles probably being sold at half or less the price.  Another part is that the generation is long in the tooth so a lot of those 40-50 million PS3/360 owners aren't really active gamers anymore.  If they got the console for Xmas when they were in Junior High School, they're in University now, haha.  If they got in University, they're probably married with kids now.

I also strongly think iOS (and to a lesser extent Android) are bleeding off a lot of gamers.  The games are so cheap and generally will fulfill the sparse gaming needs of the average owner, at least enough to hold them between tentpole releases.

Also, at the end of the day, don't forget that attach rates are like 10 games for each console right now.  That works out to less than 2 games per year for each owner.  We have trouble seeing it because we're balls deep in this addiction, but most of the people who own consoles really do only dust them off a couple times a year.


This is me tbh as i more likely wont buy those 2 games until the possible steam sale.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: AdmiralViscen on September 07, 2012, 08:27:34 AM
A 36% bump should be achievable just with a hot new game, not a hot new game AND a new hardware iteration.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: tiesto on September 07, 2012, 09:16:08 AM
Wow, there's actually decent games in this month's NPD.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on September 07, 2012, 11:32:42 AM
This gen is dead dead dead

From GAF

Quote
August home console HW total:
2002 = 710K
2003 = 540K
2004 = 538K
2005 = 440K
2006 = 516K
2007 = 1014K
2008 = 977K
2009 = 808K
2010 = 827K (+PS2)
2011 = 716K (+PS2)
2012 = 403K
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Tasty on September 07, 2012, 11:34:51 AM
Shame only Nintendo realizes it.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Tasty on September 07, 2012, 01:01:50 PM
The Last Story sold more than the Vita? :lol
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Great Rumbler on September 07, 2012, 01:26:56 PM
Quote from: Andrex on September 07, 2012, 01:01:50 PM
The Last Story sold more than the Vita? :lol

The Last Story sold more than 40k? That's actually somewhat impressive.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Purple Filth on September 07, 2012, 02:28:33 PM
Quote from: Great Rumbler on September 07, 2012, 01:26:56 PM
Quote from: Andrex on September 07, 2012, 01:01:50 PM
The Last Story sold more than the Vita? :lol

The Last Story sold more than 40k? That's actually somewhat impressive.

less than 40k but more than Vita
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on September 07, 2012, 02:31:57 PM
Quote from: Andrex on September 07, 2012, 11:34:51 AM
Shame only Nintendo realizes it.

I actually have a bad feeling about this november.  I'm sure there's still a demand for new hardware, but I'm not so sure people are going to put up with current software pricing and dlc schemes for much longer.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Joe Molotov on September 07, 2012, 02:36:26 PM
Quote from: Andrex on September 07, 2012, 11:34:51 AM
Shame only Nintendo realizes it.

Then why is Nintendo releasing a current gen console?  ???
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Tasty on September 07, 2012, 03:09:19 PM
Quote from: Joe Molotov® EDGE™ on September 07, 2012, 02:36:26 PM
Quote from: Andrex on September 07, 2012, 11:34:51 AM
Shame only Nintendo realizes it.

Then why is Nintendo releasing a current gen console?  ???

They aren't. :spin
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on September 07, 2012, 03:18:54 PM
Quote from: Ruzbeh on September 07, 2012, 03:10:52 PM
Wii U is X360+ in terms of graphics.

It's pretty much a disaster waiting to happen, IMO.

The wii was an xbox+ in terms of graphics....
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Tasty on September 07, 2012, 03:21:59 PM
Seems like KH3D numbers didn't included the special "Mark of Mastery" edition, which sold more than the 3DS XL (~80k), so it seems like 3D has sold almost (or just as much) as BBS's first month (220k-225k), which isn't bad considering according to Oscar it would be the first time the game-to-game sales in the series leveled out instead of dropping between installments. And also that the 3DS has a lower install base than the PSP did at BBS's release, and considering it's also a younger system 3D will likely have better legs to boot.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: AdmiralViscen on September 07, 2012, 03:29:27 PM
Quote from: Premium Lager on September 07, 2012, 11:32:42 AM
This gen is dead dead dead

From GAF

Quote
August home console HW total:
2002 = 710K
2003 = 540K
2004 = 538K
2005 = 440K
2006 = 516K
2007 = 1014K
2008 = 977K
2009 = 808K
2010 = 827K (+PS2)
2011 = 716K (+PS2)
2012 = 403K

Not hat far off from 2005, the end of last gen. I'm surprised

New Xbox plz
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: AdmiralViscen on September 07, 2012, 03:31:55 PM
Quote from: EmCeeGrammar on September 07, 2012, 03:18:54 PM
Quote from: Ruzbeh on September 07, 2012, 03:10:52 PM
Wii U is X360+ in terms of graphics.

It's pretty much a disaster waiting to happen, IMO.

The wii was an xbox+ in terms of graphics....

We waited, and it happened
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on September 07, 2012, 03:37:18 PM
If it wasn't for the wii's performance this gen would not compare favorably to previous gens in terms of software andor hardware sales.  It did peter out in 2011, but prior to that it had a spectacular run for the first 3 years and did good if not great up until 2011.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Tasty on September 07, 2012, 04:31:14 PM
Quote from: Ruzbeh on September 07, 2012, 04:23:43 PM
No one gives a fuck about hardware sales. It's about games.

And games the Wii did not get.

Wii got some of the best Nintendo games of the past couple gens, so eh. I wanted more, but it was not to be.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on September 07, 2012, 04:56:19 PM
Quote from: Ruzbeh on September 07, 2012, 04:23:43 PM
No one gives a fuck about hardware sales. It's about games.

And games the Wii did not get.

in your original post you stated wiiu was suchandsuch in terms of graphics and is therefore a disaster waiting to happen. Now you're saying that what is important is the games.  You're jumping around.  The wii in particular didn't have spectacular graphics yet had games that a lot of people wanted to play, and was therefore very successful before it petered out many years later.

What is your point.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Tasty on September 07, 2012, 11:24:29 PM
I think it would have gotten even less third party support that way, counter intuitively. If it was just Nintendo with their feet in next gen for the next 1-3 years, no way would they get support in that time, which is crucial for building the audience which will buy games for the rest of the console's life. Look at the Wii, early on, multiple million selling games across many different series and genres. But as they were just experimental games and never captalized on, it sort of metastasized to the point where the Wii wouldn't support third party games like those anymore.

If the Wii U got absolutely no third party games until the next PS and Xbox, it's software sales would be dead in the water, for its entire life. Nobody would want to triple their dev budgets just to make a Wii U game when the others aren't even out yet. At least this way, out of the gate Nintendo is going after the gamers who like Arkham City et al. So there's going to be a hunger for those kinds of games, which is good. Naturally, the downside is if third parties move past the Wii U in a year or two to support the next PS and Xbox.

But if these were the only two factors (they aren't, of course), I'd say Nintendo made the correct decision. It's not the one I, or indeed most sane gamers, wanted necessarily, but in terms of building an install base hungry for the types of games the Wii missed out on, Nintendo's on the right track.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Takao on September 07, 2012, 11:27:00 PM
but guys if nintendo pushed too high the budgets would've been insane and the entire video game industry would be dead nintendo is saving the industry by giving studios an affordable option
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: AdmiralViscen on September 07, 2012, 11:30:55 PM
When people find out they can finally use the utility belt in arkham city and can play darksiders with extra reflections they will be lining up for wii u. And Mario has donut plains again? This holiday is won
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Himu on September 07, 2012, 11:36:34 PM
If Nintendo had put out an actual next gen machine, I they'd make big bucks this holiday season. Very, very foolish to not take advantage of a year head start. Very, VERY dumb. Especially with Wii hw sale numbers.They could help turn around their image with gamers.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: AdmiralViscen on September 07, 2012, 11:37:35 PM
There is one thing you're forgetting

It has Netflix

spoiler (click to show/hide)
In HD
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Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on September 07, 2012, 11:40:35 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on September 07, 2012, 11:34:21 PM
Ehn, I don't think so.  It might not have gotten as many ports as it's going to, but those ports aren't going to mean much.  I think the difference between Nintendo hardware with only Nintendo games and oddball experimental third party games and Nintendo hardware with only Nintendo games, oddball experimental third party games, and year-old ports with clunky crap added in would not be substantial, while having the extra hardware boost would ensure that in a year, it would actually be getting some multiplat stuff on time instead of landing right back in the same position the Wii found itself in.  Development for this generation's consoles is winding up now, so while there might be a short window the WiiU gets some timely multiplat action, it's going to be very, very short.

I just can't see anyone aside from the Nintendo faithful getting excited/interested by the WiiU.  People are clearly really, really tired of this generation, so tossing another (for all intents and purposes) current generation console out there with ports of games people can already buy now on cheaper consoles isn't going to cut it.  The Wii sold because they were able to frame the console as something new and exciting because of the motion controls.  The tablet controller just doesn't have the same gusto.  I'm not sure what the game plan is here, to be honest, and the last time I felt like that, we were talking about the Vita.

Nintendo's game plan is that they are hoping for another Wii Play or Wii Fit: something low tech that provides insane sales with long legs to carry them between yet another Zelda and yet another Mario.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Himu on September 07, 2012, 11:41:40 PM
That's a really bad game plan. How are wii fit and its ilk still selling?
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on September 07, 2012, 11:48:18 PM
According to the internet, Nintendo is still the most innovative game developers around.  I'm sure they will find something to generate those early-mid Wii and DS era profit margins again with the Wii U and 3DS respectively.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Tasty on September 08, 2012, 12:02:19 AM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on September 07, 2012, 11:37:48 PM
Quote from: Takao on September 07, 2012, 11:27:00 PM
but guys if nintendo pushed too high the budgets would've been insane and the entire video game industry would be dead nintendo is saving the industry by giving studios an affordable option

Honestly, this is a valid point, but it's the escalator to nowhere the industry's been on for a very long time.  The industry created a model where the audience expects the envelope to be pushed every five years or so, but gave no thought to where that would eventually lead with regards to budget vs demand.  And now here we are.

It's like how people are like "wait, SEGA's saying they might not be able to do another Project Diva game on Vita because the sales weren't enough?  But it sold as well as the PSP ones!"  Well yes, but with the Vita, we've officially hit the point that consoles hit in the last transition - the budgets are getting stupid high and the audience isn't growing one iota.

Yeah, people lambasting Nintendo for that point of all things always leave me puzzled. I mean, the evidence is plain as day. If you're going to make fun of Nintendo, make fun of them for being greedy with conservative specs and always needing to make a profit from day one, not their well-founded desire to scale back dev costs and stem the bleeding of dying dev houses.

But nope, nothing's wrong, nobody's gone out of business this gen due to dev costs, it's all some other reason.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on September 08, 2012, 12:09:09 AM
They're all fucked anyway, iOS is a huge cause of the hemorrhaging and I don't think fresh consoles will be the saviors that people are pinning the industry's hopes on.

Next generation will be a barren wasteland of ultra high budget dudebro fare and 8 bit indie games.  People banking their hopes on Steam will realize that console ports were pretty important and there will be less non-indie Steam content also.  Which is good because now that I have actual income, I've been meaning to revisit the PS1 and PS2 classics.  Then maybe it will be time to hang up the controller and move onto other fruitful non-manchild activities.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Himu on September 08, 2012, 12:10:40 AM
Considering how awesome the indie games are, awesome!
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Damian79 on September 09, 2012, 11:02:35 PM
http://www.notenoughshaders.com/2012/09/08/the-ten-year-decline-of-sony/

Big article on the decline of Sony.

Some quotes.

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Sony’s Market Cap Value on September 2000:  $100 billion   (Source: Bloomberg) Sony’s Market Cap Value on December 2007:  $54 billion  (Source: ycharts.com) Sony’s Market Cap Value on December 12, 2011:  $18 billion  (Source: Bloomberg) Now lets skip to the most recent day that the stock market opened on. Sony’s Market Cap Value on September 7th, 2012:  $11.69 billion  (Marketwatch/Wall Street Journal)Nintendo’s Market Cap Value on September 7th, 2012:  $15.9 billion  (Marketwatch/Wall Street Journal) (Please Note: Market Cap Values typically change every day/week so any numbers posted for September 6th, 2012 will slightly change the next day or week.) click this link for enlarged pic.

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According to the Businessweek article (Via gizmodo.com):“Stringer also encountered a hardware-worshipping culture that mistrusted him because he wasn’t an engineer.  He was a ‘content guy’ who supposedly cared less about making devices than pushing movies and music. ‘Whenever I mentioned content,’ [Stringer] says, ‘people would roll their eyes because, ‘This is an electronics company, and content is secondary.”

Final Thoughts from teh article:
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Is Hiroko Tabuci correct in her Wall Street Journal article about Sony’s engineers having too much power and control over Sony’s product lines? She is correct, but Sony’s executives should always take more accountability/responsibility for the company’s actions more than anyone else.  When Howard Stringer was in office, all he did was blame earthquakes and the fall of the yen/dollar/euro, instead of admitting that Sony released products that weren’t major hits.  The fact remains that Sony’s executives make a lot of excuses, they poorly communicate with their engineers, and this causes disorganization and confusion within the company.    A great example would be when Sony’s PlayStation network was hacked by Lulzsec.   Sony was more concerned about hiring lawyers and getting their insurance company to pay for the damage, than getting their engineers to fix the problem in a swift and efficient manner. Because there is a lack of communication between the branches of Sony,  Sony’s product line has no real identity right now.  Every division and branch is made up of people who are doing their own thing, and not caring about what the rest of Sony is doing.  That’s why the only thing that comes to a consumer’s mind about Sony products right now is, “Oh yeah.  That’s the company that makes stuff I can’t afford unless I get multiple jobs.  They put out $600 game consoles at launch, and $40,000 4K resolution televisions“.  Sony is stuck.  Everyone expects amazing quality and technological leaps from Sony products, but most people don’t have the money to buy them due to economical reasons.  If Sony changed their strategy and started manufacturing cheap products, it would go against everything that the Sony brand stands for. Sony is an example of a company that has become so large that they’ve lost focus of their main priorities.  This is also a company that thinks they can afford tons of failures as long as they have a few successes along the way.  But at what cost?   At what cost can you keep launching products that don’t make a profit until the third or fourth year that it is released?    At what cost can you keep launching failed proprietary formats like the UMD, or failed peripherals like PlayStation Move? Sony releases brilliant products time from time.  I am especially a big fan of their PlayStation brand.  But Sony is not the Sony of the 90′s.   Sony is not today’s Apple.  Sony is not today’s Samsung.  Sony is not today’s Microsoft. It won’t be easy for Sony to return to their glory days after ten years of negative trends.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Tasty on September 09, 2012, 11:22:49 PM
:japancry
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Great Rumbler on September 09, 2012, 11:28:55 PM
It's incredible to see how far their market cap has fallen since 2000.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Eel O'Brian on September 09, 2012, 11:49:44 PM
wii u should've been released last holiday season
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Damian79 on September 09, 2012, 11:58:12 PM
Quote from: Dr. Feelbad on September 09, 2012, 11:49:44 PM
wii u should've been released last holiday season

I think they were having too many problems with the controller last year.  :/
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Great Rumbler on September 10, 2012, 12:37:07 AM
The Vita really seems to be emblematic of Sony's problems. Expensive price point + lots of bells and whistles + short on compelling software + "Oh well" attitude about it from Sony corporate.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Tasty on September 10, 2012, 12:37:12 AM
I'd love to have a historical reference for Nintendo's market cap these past ten years. Probably been a REALLY wild ride.

Quote from: Dr. Feelbad on September 09, 2012, 11:49:44 PM
wii u should've been released last holiday season

Hm, nah. It would have been more expensive, less reliable, and would have launched with a weaker set of titles. At least this way it has Mario and Rayman exclusives and a smattering of PS360 ports.

(My frame of reference is the 3DS, which I believe Nintendo should have waited 9-10 months to release and made SM3DL a launch title, along with obviously having it at the reduced price and not $250. They may have even built a second circle pad in if they had waited.)
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Stoney Mason on September 10, 2012, 01:11:20 AM
Quote from: Great Rumbler on September 10, 2012, 12:37:07 AM
The Vita really seems to be emblematic of Sony's problems. Expensive price point + lots of bells and whistles + short on compelling software + "Oh well" attitude about it from Sony corporate.

Ever since the PS3 sony has been a clusterfuck. And that's just speaking from the gaming side. I still think people forget how dominant a position they had at the end of last generation and how everybody thought the dominance would continue. Then they screwed the pooch by making a system so expensive it never gained the momentum it needed and stopped all their momentum period. The vita at least in this country was such a laughably bad idea I'm still a bit surprised they launched it over here at all. I know no normal person who owns a vita. I doubt 99.9999 percent of people I know even know it exists.

Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Himu on September 10, 2012, 01:15:46 AM
I heard an ad on the local rap station on friday for playstation vita giveaway. Guess that's the only way to move that system. :teehee

Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: tiesto on September 10, 2012, 08:23:33 AM
Quote from: Stringer Bell on September 10, 2012, 01:15:46 AM
I heard an ad on the local rap station on friday for playstation vita giveaway. Guess that's the only way to move that system. :teehee

I remember taking the bus home from school for Thanksgiving '99 and they were airing a local rap station (Hot 97), who were giving away "the hottest new thing of the year, the Sega Dreamcast!". I guess if a rap station is giving a system out as a gift it's not a good sign  :P
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Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on September 10, 2012, 08:42:12 PM
Aside from that Taco Bell promotion, I don't think Sony did anything to let people know the Vita even existed in the US.  Hell, I'm surprised they sold the amount of units they did.  Sony seems pretty blase about it too so why should I want to own one while Sony is doing it's best to drown it in the bathtub?
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Post by: Tasty on September 11, 2012, 12:53:02 AM
Oscar, I'm curious, how much did Xenoblade end up selling in the end? Considering it was on a basically dead system, months after its release in every other territory, at a single retail outlet, I'm not exactly expecting... well, anything. Just want to know. Did it even chart at all?
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Post by: Tasty on September 11, 2012, 01:11:44 AM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on September 11, 2012, 01:01:14 AM
My source never leaked a number.  Maybe because it was Gamestop exclusive, I dunno.  I expect it probably did about the same as Last Story, though.  Can't see any reason why it would have done differently.

Well, OpRainfall and people in general seemed more hyped for it than TLS. I know I was, and I wasn't the only one. I mean, normally the argument that what internet denizens do is irrelevant, but considering the game was released just for them, it seems like it might have affected things this one time.

Was TLS GameStop exclusive too?
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Post by: Great Rumbler on September 11, 2012, 01:25:23 AM
Quote from: Andrex on September 11, 2012, 01:11:44 AM
Was TLS GameStop exclusive too?

You can get new copies of TLS on Amazon, so no.
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Post by: Tasty on September 11, 2012, 01:33:25 AM
Quote from: Great Rumbler on September 11, 2012, 01:25:23 AM
Quote from: Andrex on September 11, 2012, 01:11:44 AM
Was TLS GameStop exclusive too?

You can get new copies of TLS on Amazon, so no.

Seems like that would be the deciding factor in it selling more. Ah, a shame.
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Post by: Tasty on September 11, 2012, 01:44:01 AM
Well, next time you see your source, pump some Xenoblade from him for me.
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Post by: AdmiralViscen on September 11, 2012, 08:01:34 AM
Its probably like Europe, no numbers indicates monstrous sales. Sony should have made Vita GS exclusive.
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Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on September 11, 2012, 08:08:22 AM
Quote from: AdmiralViscen on September 11, 2012, 08:01:34 AM
Its probably like Europe, no numbers indicates monstrous sales. Sony should have made Vita GS exclusive.

Or Walmart exclusive.  Let's dust off the old Walscuse
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Post by: pilonv1 on September 11, 2012, 08:58:01 AM
Supply contrained obviously
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Post by: Eel O'Brian on September 11, 2012, 09:05:53 AM
:lol
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Post by: Cerveza mas fina on September 11, 2012, 09:13:27 AM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on September 07, 2012, 11:37:48 PM
Quote from: Takao on September 07, 2012, 11:27:00 PM
but guys if nintendo pushed too high the budgets would've been insane and the entire video game industry would be dead nintendo is saving the industry by giving studios an affordable option

Honestly, this is a valid point, but it's the escalator to nowhere the industry's been on for a very long time.  The industry created a model where the audience expects the envelope to be pushed every five years or so, but gave no thought to where that would eventually lead with regards to budget vs demand.  And now here we are.

It's like how people are like "wait, SEGA's saying they might not be able to do another Project Diva game on Vita because the sales weren't enough?  But it sold as well as the PSP ones!"  Well yes, but with the Vita, we've officially hit the point that consoles hit in the last transition - the budgets are getting stupid high and the audience isn't growing one iota.

So where does this put the future of gaming? Will the envelope still be pushed by some?
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Post by: Owl-faced Wizard on September 11, 2012, 09:39:06 PM
Hi-tech can improve just about any game without really increasing the budget substantially - it's really the culture that goes along with it that's toxic.  Tech is just heavily associated with realistic graphics, because that's an unambiguous way of telling if tech has improved so idiot gamers have sort of been trained to think realism is just better and anyone who says otherwise is an indiefag or mentally a child.  And there are big costs that come along with that stuff - in terms of budgets, sure, but because everybody wants to save money no how matter how loaded they are you get little cornercuts: Entire games taking place in corridors, entire sections that are glorified qtes, a thousand shades of grey etc. etc. Plus they've got to appeal to as many people as possible to spread that net wide as well as stop people trading games in, so you get mandatory multiplayer, skinner box shit, generally pretty dumbed-down gameplay etc.
I think if people want graphics that blow you away in games that aren't completely shit, some seriously impressive procedural generation techniques are gonna be necessary.  Like Just Cause times a million.  If the new Unreal Engine doesn't come with that kind of stuff in it they are killing themselves.
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Post by: Tasty on September 11, 2012, 09:45:29 PM
I'd be OK with 10-year long generations. Heck it's already started to slow down.
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Post by: Owl-faced Wizard on September 11, 2012, 09:50:17 PM
Console manufacturers won't be ok with that.  It's slowing down because of past mistakes and Sony and MS are playing really slow chicken to get the other guy to go first.  I think everybody really wants to go back to the 5 year cycle.  When everything is streaming and systems are a service that will be easy to do because you won't necessarily need that much hardware on the user end.  But that's a while off.
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Post by: Tasty on September 11, 2012, 09:51:54 PM
If we got to the point where cloud streaming was the norm (which I think is 10 years off, at least), then I doubt we'd have generations at all. We wouldn't really need to. Maybe it is the final culmination of the console model.
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Post by: Stoney Mason on September 11, 2012, 09:54:38 PM
For core gamers high tech and bigger and faster is always going to be better but I think increasingly as we go forward that stuff is going to mean even less than it already currently does to the more casual mainstream consumers. I already think next gen is gonna struggle a bit at least early on if the only advertisement features are better textures and higher frame rate. I think we are reaching the point where incremental improvements in graphics don't impress the way they use to.
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Post by: Eel O'Brian on September 11, 2012, 11:27:50 PM
I think the culmination of the console model of gaming is going to be a modular convergence of devices like tablets and phones with docks that connect to your TV. Tablets and phones have just about peaked in what they can do, and it's all because the guts of these devices are already lapping current battery tech. Can't push it much further unless you can live with 15 minute battery life, so until new types of portable power come to the forefront these devices are on a plateau. But with a Thunderbolt connected dock, that wouldn't matter, you'd just come home and pop in your phone or tablet and the heavier lifting could be done with A/C power and an external graphics processor. So you'd take your phone or tablet with you and play games or use apps more suited to portability, and when you come home you dock it and make use of the extra power to play your Hollywood games or what have you. It's an ideal situation for hardware manufacturers and game publishers, really. They get you coming and going.
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Post by: pilonv1 on September 11, 2012, 11:48:00 PM
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They get you coming and going.

This is the thing that EA wants, 24/7 access to your wallet. You're no longer a valued customer, you're a revenue stream and nothing else.
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Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on September 12, 2012, 12:02:06 AM
I think there will be a convergence a couple of generations from now.  You'd just take your tablet and load it on a dock that has some ports, like a couple USB ports (where controllers could be used, keyboards, etc.) and an HDMI port.  I think eventually the console manufacturing game won't be worth the diminishing returns so Microsoft will drop the Xbox and focus on their Surface line (whatever that turns in to), Nintendo will stick with handheld consoles, and Sony probably won't even exist in 10 years or at least not be in the game hardware biz once they get purchased by Gree.

Probably won't be for another 10-15 years but I could definitely see it play out that way.
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Post by: Eel O'Brian on September 12, 2012, 12:12:44 AM
Sony:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0FR_76LZVNw
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Post by: FoneBone on September 12, 2012, 11:30:05 AM
Quote from: The Experiment on September 12, 2012, 12:02:06 AM
I think there will be a convergence a couple of generations from now.  You'd just take your tablet and load it on a dock that has some ports, like a couple USB ports (where controllers could be used, keyboards, etc.) and an HDMI port.  I think eventually the console manufacturing game won't be worth the diminishing returns so Microsoft will drop the Xbox and focus on their Surface line (whatever that turns in to), Nintendo will stick with handheld consoles, and Sony probably won't even exist in 10 years or at least not be in the game hardware biz once they get purchased by Gree.

Probably won't be for another 10-15 years but I could definitely see it play out that way.
I don't really understand how anyone can look at the upheaval in the industry and believe that there will even be "a couple more generations" as we know them, let alone that those changes will take as long to play out as you're making them out to.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Tasty on September 14, 2012, 01:48:14 PM
3DS LL > Vita YTD
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Post by: Huff on September 14, 2012, 01:58:33 PM
Time to make the cake and party!
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Post by: Takao on September 14, 2012, 02:30:47 PM
Garbage can man, is it possible for you to tell me what Namco Bandai's best selling game in North America is this year, and how many copies it has sold? I remember reading a report on their fiscal results and it was insane how Japan dominant their earnings were. It's kind of scary since outside of maybe their fighting games they don't need the west to make a load of money anymore.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Momo on October 04, 2012, 12:57:23 AM
no one will ever beat sega.
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Post by: Tasty on October 04, 2012, 01:16:22 AM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on October 04, 2012, 12:00:09 AM
fucking sony beating sega again :(

spoiler (click to show/hide)
the vita has now officially fallen behind the dreamcast's pace
[close]

Wait, you're saying Sony beat the Dreamcast at failing... and that's a bad thing for Sega? :lol
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Post by: Owl-faced Wizard on October 04, 2012, 01:20:49 AM
You know, with Dreamcast catching up with Vita ... I'm starting to think Sega can turn this thing around!
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Post by: Momo on October 04, 2012, 01:27:39 AM
Stop this Oscar.

We still have fantastic arcade exclusives
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Post by: Tasty on October 04, 2012, 01:29:08 AM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on October 04, 2012, 01:25:14 AM
Quote from: Andrex on October 04, 2012, 01:16:22 AM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on October 04, 2012, 12:00:09 AM
fucking sony beating sega again :(

spoiler (click to show/hide)
the vita has now officially fallen behind the dreamcast's pace
[close]

Wait, you're saying Sony beat the Dreamcast at failing... and that's a bad thing for Sega? :lol

being the best at failing is all we had left  :'(

Well Sega let Platinum fly the coop, that's about on par with Capcom's possibly biggest mistake outside killing Megaman.

And hey, it's doing better than the Saturn! (I assume.)
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Post by: Momo on October 04, 2012, 01:34:40 AM
Quote from: Andrex on October 04, 2012, 01:29:08 AM
Well Sega let Platinum fly the coop, that's about on par with Capcom's possibly biggest mistake outside killing Megaman.
As much shit as people are going to give SEGA for backing the fuck away from Plat or Capcom from Megaman, I cant imagine it being a mistake at all for them. Putting money into niche retail franchises isnt going to keep SEGA ticking over, their current strategy of cleverly budgeted DD games + retail and localized guaranteed money makers is probably the best business model in the industry.
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Post by: Owl-faced Wizard on October 04, 2012, 01:35:45 AM
Yeah, Saturn did good in Japan.  I think it outsold the N64 there.
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Post by: Tasty on October 04, 2012, 01:44:00 AM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on October 04, 2012, 01:29:53 AM
no, it's got a looooooong way to go to catch the saturn.

Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on October 04, 2012, 01:39:42 AM
Quote from: Owl-faced Wizard on October 04, 2012, 01:35:45 AM
Yeah, Saturn did good in Japan.  I think it outsold the N64 there.

Yep, albeit only by a few hundred thousand units.  Also outsold the Gamecube in Japan by about two million units.

 :o Well damn, yeah. Sega fails at failing.
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Post by: Huff on October 04, 2012, 06:48:48 AM
Quote from: Andrex on October 04, 2012, 01:29:08 AM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on October 04, 2012, 01:25:14 AM
Quote from: Andrex on October 04, 2012, 01:16:22 AM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on October 04, 2012, 12:00:09 AM
fucking sony beating sega again :(

spoiler (click to show/hide)
the vita has now officially fallen behind the dreamcast's pace
[close]

Wait, you're saying Sony beat the Dreamcast at failing... and that's a bad thing for Sega? :lol

being the best at failing is all we had left  :'(

Well Sega let Platinum fly the coop, that's about on par with Capcom's possibly biggest mistake outside killing Megaman.

And hey, it's doing better than the Saturn! (I assume.)

Platinum had one decent selling game and the rest Bomba'd really hard right?
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Post by: archnemesis on October 04, 2012, 07:29:25 AM
Only in the west. Infinite Space, Bayonetta and Vanquish sold alright in Japan.
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Post by: Huff on October 04, 2012, 07:49:38 AM
But in the end the sales of Platinum games were possibly so bad that weren't even going to release a game in the west. Yeah I'm not sure why sega would dump them. It's not like sega is doing bad or anything
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Post by: archnemesis on October 04, 2012, 07:55:10 AM
Sure, it makes perfect sense for Sega to focus on the few franchises that are profitable.
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Post by: Beezy on October 04, 2012, 11:18:54 AM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on October 04, 2012, 09:17:23 AM
- Madworld sold more in NA than both versions of Vanquish put together.  Heck, throw in Infinite Space's NA sales, too.  Still lower than Madworld.
:fbm
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Post by: G The Resurrected on October 04, 2012, 04:21:26 PM
I'm so happy that platinum games is working on Metal Gear Rising. They have the chops to make that type of game and its almost like a pseudo sequel to Vanquish which is my favorite game from them.
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Post by: maxy on October 10, 2012, 09:54:15 AM
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01./00. [PS3] Resident Evil 6 <ADV> (Capcom) {2012.10.04} (¥7.990) - 634.933 / NEW
02./00. [PS3] World Soccer Winning Eleven 2013 <SPT> (Konami) {2012.10.04} (¥7.980) - 223.884 / NEW
03./00. [PSP] Summon Night 3 <RPG> (Bandai Namco Games) {2012.10.04} (¥3.990) - 51.453 / NEW
04./00. [PSP] Sol Trigger <RPG> (Image Epoch) {2012.10.04} (¥6.279) - 42.037 / NEW
05./00. [360] Resident Evil 6 <ADV> (Capcom) {2012.10.04} (¥7.990) - 41.652 / NEW

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PS3   42,218
3DSLL   39,046
3DS   24,623
PSP   17,769
Vita   7,957
Xbox 360   4,894
Wii   4,849
PS2   894
DSi LL   344
DSi   330
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Joe Molotov on October 10, 2012, 09:56:09 AM
The Vita is like the Fredo of the Playstation Family.
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Post by: Tasty on October 10, 2012, 10:49:38 AM
Weird the LL is selling more than the normal version.
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Post by: Joe Molotov on October 10, 2012, 01:35:52 PM
Quote from: Andrex on October 10, 2012, 10:49:38 AM
Weird the LL is selling more than the normal version.

Why is that weird?
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Post by: Owl-faced Wizard on October 10, 2012, 01:50:14 PM
Stereotypically, Japanese people like small things.  And they have tiny hands like stillborn babies.
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Post by: Mr. Gundam on October 10, 2012, 01:51:26 PM
RE6 thumped RE5 in sales. Too bad RE6 is a piece of shit in comparison. :lol
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Post by: chronovore on October 10, 2012, 11:03:32 PM
Yeah, my daughter loves her LL; mostly watches Ugokimemochou vidz on it, so I guess the screen size is a plus.
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Post by: Tasty on October 11, 2012, 05:03:49 PM
Oscar, did MH3 outsell Bayonetta in the US?
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Post by: Brehvolution on October 11, 2012, 05:34:23 PM
The DS has too many sku's. Customers will get confused.

/2006
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Post by: Purple Filth on October 11, 2012, 08:07:12 PM
NPD Day (stolen from GAF)

https://www.gameinformer.com/b/news/archive/2012/10/11/madden-borderlands-2-top-september-game-sales.aspx

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U.S. retail video game sales declined 24 percent year-over-year in Sepetember 2012 from $1.11 billion to $848.3 million, according to NPD.

1. Madden NFL 13 (360, PS3, Wii, PSV) Electronic Arts - Over 2.55M (up 11% over Madden 12)
2. Borderlands 2 (360, PS3, PC) Take Two Interactive - 1.48M (up 234% over Borderlands 1)
3. FIFA Soccer 13 (360, Ps3, PSV, Wii, 3DS, PSP) Electronic Arts
4. New Super Mario Bros. 2 (3DS) Nintendo - 295K
5. Guild Wars 2 (PC) NCSoft
6. NHL 13 (360, PS3) Electronic Arts
7. World of Warcraft: Mists of Pandaria (PC) Activision Blizzard
8. NCAA Footbal 13 (360, PS3) Electronic Arts
9. Lego Batman 2: DC Super Heroes (Wii, 360, NDS, PS3, 3DS, PSV, PC) Warner Bros. Interactive
10. Battlefield 3 (360, PS3, PC) Electronic Arts


Hardware:

Xbox 360: 270K (-38.4%)



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Post by: Tasty on October 11, 2012, 08:16:24 PM
Dem NSMB legs.
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Post by: Stoney Mason on October 11, 2012, 09:40:58 PM
Nice to see BF 3 sneak in there at 10 with no COD. I have high hopes for Black Ops 2 but MW 3 was the biggest piece of crap in COD history. The mp in that game is miserable.
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Post by: Tasty on October 11, 2012, 09:53:50 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on October 11, 2012, 09:34:43 PM
Quote from: Andrex on October 11, 2012, 05:03:49 PM
Oscar, did MH3 outsell Bayonetta in the US?

It's complicated, but no.  Basically, Bayonetta (combined) > MHTri (combined) > Bayonetta 360 > MHTri (no ccp) > Bayonetta PS3 > MHTri (ccp bundle).  The combined numbers are very very close to each other, though.

Interesting. Completely forgot about the bundle. But didn't MadWorld outsell Bayo? And I thought Tri had outsold MadWorld.
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Post by: Great Rumbler on October 11, 2012, 09:59:48 PM
Quote from: Purple Filth on October 11, 2012, 08:07:12 PM
1. Madden NFL 13 (360, PS3, Wii, PSV) Electronic Arts - Over 2.55M (up 11% over Madden 12)
2. Borderlands 2 (360, PS3, PC) Take Two Interactive - 1.48M (up 234% over Borderlands 1)
3. FIFA Soccer 13 (360, Ps3, PSV, Wii, 3DS, PSP) Electronic Arts
4. New Super Mario Bros. 2 (3DS) Nintendo - 295K
5. Guild Wars 2 (PC) NCSoft
6. NHL 13 (360, PS3) Electronic Arts
7. World of Warcraft: Mists of Pandaria (PC) Activision Blizzard
8. NCAA Footbal 13 (360, PS3) Electronic Arts
9. Lego Batman 2: DC Super Heroes (Wii, 360, NDS, PS3, 3DS, PSV, PC) Warner Bros. Interactive
10. Battlefield 3 (360, PS3, PC) Electronic Arts

BORDERLANDSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
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Post by: Stoney Mason on October 11, 2012, 10:53:39 PM
Borderlands was #4 on the last xbox live activity list so you knew it was going to have a big month. Also well deserved. Took a big jump up for a sequel quality wise.
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Post by: originalz on October 12, 2012, 08:35:39 PM
When the hell did FIFA become popular in the States?
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Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on October 12, 2012, 08:37:44 PM
Quote from: originalz on October 12, 2012, 08:35:39 PM
When the hell did FIFA become popular in the States?

football is like the third most popular sport in america now a days, it goes Football, MLB, Soccer, NBA, NHL
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Post by: Joe Molotov on October 12, 2012, 09:22:33 PM
Quote from: Thomas Householmes Lane on October 12, 2012, 08:37:44 PM
Quote from: originalz on October 12, 2012, 08:35:39 PM
When the hell did FIFA become popular in the States?

football is like the third most popular sport in america now a days, it goes Football, MLB, Soccer, NBA, NHL

 :wtf
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Post by: Takao on October 19, 2012, 04:48:25 AM
 :gloomy
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Post by: chronovore on October 23, 2012, 05:25:33 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on October 19, 2012, 07:25:57 AM
There's an AKB game coming to Vita.  Unfortunately the same game is coming to PSP on the same day.  3DS is getting its AKB game shortly, too. 

It's neither here nor there, though.  AKB is on their way out these days, and the Guam game dropped like a rock compared to the first one.  I can't see the third one doing any better in a post-Acchan AKB world.

Christ. I had almost forgotten about AKB. Relative joy over imminent return to Japan has been successfully diminished.
:fbm
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Post by: chronovore on October 24, 2012, 12:15:55 AM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on October 23, 2012, 09:11:27 PM
Don't worry, man.  They're fading fast.  I give them another year or so before they're in Morning Musume country.

Who, coincidentally, are trying to make a comeback!

 :japancry

FFFUUU...

They all just need to wander off and do "hair nude gravure" to send their careers to their hyper-frenzied ends.
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Post by: maxy on November 07, 2012, 11:11:50 AM
This week MC

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PSV  |      4.842


Vita is now totally in xbox territory.Selling low like this must mean that most of the shops have Vita buried under piles of non-selling stuff.

what is happening?
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Great Rumbler on November 07, 2012, 11:18:05 AM
Quote from: maxy on November 07, 2012, 11:11:50 AM
what is happening?

The same thing that's been happening since the Vita launched?
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Post by: archnemesis on November 07, 2012, 11:21:07 AM
Why would you expect it to sell more? There hasn't been a price drop, any new colors, or any interesting new releases for it. 
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Post by: Don Flamenco on November 07, 2012, 11:26:59 AM
Quote from: maxy on November 07, 2012, 11:11:50 AM
This week MC

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PSV  |      4.842


Vita is now totally in xbox territory.Selling low like this must mean that most of the shops have Vita buried under piles of non-selling stuff.

what is happening?


pretty simple- no games.  not even a "wait for x" game.   Maybe PSO2 Vita will help out in japan...they like that kind of shit on portables a lot.
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Post by: Joe Molotov on November 07, 2012, 11:58:16 AM
Sony killed the Vita and didn't even bother to have a funeral, just tossed it in a ditch somewhere.
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Post by: Sho Nuff on November 07, 2012, 12:19:55 PM
Can't wait for dem saaaack Black Friday deals
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Post by: pilonv1 on November 07, 2012, 05:37:21 PM
Vita is now at the point where it's not even appealing to me in a fire sale.
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Post by: G The Resurrected on November 07, 2012, 05:59:55 PM
Quote from: Sho Nuff on November 07, 2012, 12:19:55 PM
Can't wait for dem saaaack Black Friday deals

If years past are any indicator of the sales pretty much all of the deals have been leaked by Bestbuy. So expect the same from Target and some slight variation from Walmart in the prices and lineups. But usually it sticks to whats in the ads of competitors cause thats the deals they have gotten from the manufactures.
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Post by: originalz on November 08, 2012, 01:56:40 AM
Very few people in Japan care about the Vita, most of them don't even know it exists.  I try to talk to people about it and a lot of them don't know what it is, even when I tell them it's the "new PSP" they'll just nod their heads.  Don't even bother trying to ask them about the games the system has.

On the other hand, absolutely everyone knows the 3DS exists and can usually name a couple of games for it.

Not surprising to see it do so piss-poor here.
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Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on November 08, 2012, 05:48:29 AM
Quote from: originalz on November 08, 2012, 01:56:40 AM
Very few people in Japan care about the Vita, most of them don't even know it exists.  I try to talk to people about it and a lot of them don't know what it is, even when I tell them it's the "new PSP" they'll just nod their heads.  Don't even bother trying to ask them about the games the system has.

On the other hand, absolutely everyone knows the 3DS exists and can usually name a couple of games for it.

Not surprising to see it do so piss-poor here.

The Vita is done.  It's a matter of when not if Sony dispatches it behind the shed.  I suspect it will be quietly discontinued to "streamline operations" to focus on the PS4.  It has quite a few good games for it so I'll get one at a fire sale and can get all of the games for a few bucks a pop.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Joe Molotov on November 08, 2012, 08:56:56 AM
Quote from: Green Man on November 08, 2012, 03:15:16 AM
Quote from: Sho Nuff on November 07, 2012, 12:19:55 PM
Can't wait for dem saaaack Black Friday deals

Walmart deals are the best thus far: http://bfads.net/Ad/Walmart-2012/Page2

Them $4 Blu-Rays. Might be worth trampling some old ladies down for. :drool :drool

Edit: $9 for Brave FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
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Post by: Don Flamenco on November 08, 2012, 02:11:03 PM
Quote from: The Experiment on November 08, 2012, 05:48:29 AM
Quote from: originalz on November 08, 2012, 01:56:40 AM
Very few people in Japan care about the Vita, most of them don't even know it exists.  I try to talk to people about it and a lot of them don't know what it is, even when I tell them it's the "new PSP" they'll just nod their heads.  Don't even bother trying to ask them about the games the system has.

On the other hand, absolutely everyone knows the 3DS exists and can usually name a couple of games for it.

Not surprising to see it do so piss-poor here.

The Vita is done.  It's a matter of when not if Sony dispatches it behind the shed.  I suspect it will be quietly discontinued to "streamline operations" to focus on the PS4.  It has quite a few good games for it so I'll get one at a fire sale and can get all of the games for a few bucks a pop.


i might believe it.  I don't know how complete this is, but check out the North American and EU upcoming games list: 

http://www.gamefaqs.com/vita


:lol 

still want one for PS1, PSP on dat oled, and a couple Vita games. 

and I'm assuming half that shit on the Japanese list are those lame visual novels about lolis spanking each other with licorice whips or something but all couched in metaphysical terms...or something.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: archnemesis on November 08, 2012, 02:39:47 PM
There are a handful of other games that could be okay, like Killzone, but they won't be released anytime soon.
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Post by: AdmiralViscen on November 08, 2012, 03:33:15 PM
I don't think I'd even want one at clearance prices. What does it have? Wipeout?
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Don Flamenco on November 08, 2012, 03:37:10 PM
Quote from: AdmiralViscen on November 08, 2012, 03:33:15 PM
I don't think I'd even want one at clearance prices. What does it have? Wipeout?

30fps ninja gaiden sigma 
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: archnemesis on November 08, 2012, 03:59:56 PM
Quote from: AdmiralViscen on November 08, 2012, 03:33:15 PM
I don't think I'd even want one at clearance prices. What does it have? Wipeout?
I'm not going to pretend that it's the best system ever, but I have enjoyed:
• Escape Plan
• Everybody's Golf (Hot Shots Golf)
• Frobisher Says!
• Gravity Rush
• Lumines: Electric Symphony
• The Pinball Arcade
• Pure Chess
• Rayman Origins
• Super Stardust Delta
• Tales from Space: Mutant Blobs Attack
• The Treasures of Montezuma Blitz
• WipEout 2048
• Zen Pinball 2

I'd also like to play Uncharted, Resistance, Hatsune Miku, DJMax Technika, and Orgarhythm. Many of the games I listed are available for other systems or have similar PS3 games. I totally understand why it's not selling well, but I'd still consider it a pretty great little machine.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: AdmiralViscen on November 08, 2012, 04:20:11 PM
Fuck that
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on November 08, 2012, 04:23:33 PM
It has a better library then 3DS.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: archnemesis on November 08, 2012, 04:29:35 PM
Quote from: Premium Lager on November 08, 2012, 04:23:33 PM
It has a better library then 3DS.
I agree, but the 3DS has a far brighter future.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: pilonv1 on November 08, 2012, 05:40:22 PM
Quote from: pilonv1 on November 07, 2012, 05:37:21 PM
Vita is now at the point where it's not even appealing to me in a fire sale.

Quote from: AdmiralViscen on November 08, 2012, 03:33:15 PM
I don't think I'd even want one at clearance prices. What does it have? Wipeout?

:heart
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Post by: pilonv1 on November 08, 2012, 05:45:06 PM
oh boy
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Takao on November 08, 2012, 08:01:10 PM
Oscar, would you mind telling me the DBZ Budokai HD Collection's sales next month? It definitely won't chart, and I don't think any of the people on GAF with NPD access care.

Vita's sales  :'(
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on November 08, 2012, 08:27:08 PM
Quote from: Takao on November 08, 2012, 08:01:10 PM
Oscar, would you mind telling me the DBZ Budokai HD Collection's sales next month? It definitely won't chart, and I don't think any of the people on GAF with NPD access care.

Vita's sales  :'(

He hasn't been around in a week and a half.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Takao on November 08, 2012, 10:01:57 PM
Work related?
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on November 08, 2012, 11:36:11 PM
Quote from: Takao on November 08, 2012, 10:01:57 PM
Work related?

Family related.  He's talked about leaving the boards to be with his family for some time now.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Takao on November 09, 2012, 12:07:06 AM
Ah, that's good to hear.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: maxy on November 09, 2012, 01:55:22 AM
Vita is apparently at about 35k...

PSP < 10k < PSV < Wii < 50K < 100k < DS < 150k < PS3 < 200K < 3DS < 250K < 360
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: iconoclast on November 09, 2012, 02:07:04 AM
Quote from: archnemesis on November 08, 2012, 04:29:35 PM
Quote from: Premium Lager on November 08, 2012, 04:23:33 PM
It has a better library then 3DS.
I agree, but the 3DS has a far brighter future.

Yep. The Vita's library is more appealing to me, but I'm getting a 3DS instead because it might actually have a future. Oh well.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Trent Dole on November 09, 2012, 03:16:16 AM
Quote from: iconoclast on November 09, 2012, 02:07:04 AM
Quote from: archnemesis on November 08, 2012, 04:29:35 PM
Quote from: Premium Lager on November 08, 2012, 04:23:33 PM
It has a better library then 3DS.
I agree, but the 3DS has a far brighter future.

Yep. The Vita's library is more appealing to me, but I'm getting a 3DS instead because it might actually have a future. Oh well.
Way to be part of the problem. :maf
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: originalz on November 09, 2012, 06:00:29 AM
Wow, that new Medal of Honor game did decently considering how it was murdered in the reviews and overall seems to be a pretty below-average game.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on November 09, 2012, 07:14:53 AM
Quote from: iconoclast on November 09, 2012, 02:07:04 AM
Quote from: archnemesis on November 08, 2012, 04:29:35 PM
Quote from: Premium Lager on November 08, 2012, 04:23:33 PM
It has a better library then 3DS.
I agree, but the 3DS has a far brighter future.

Yep. The Vita's library is more appealing to me, but I'm getting a 3DS instead because it might actually have a future. Oh well.

I get where you're coming from but it doesn't add up, if the games you want are on the Vita...

I mean if you had the choice of getting a 3DS or Vita right now, free of charge what would you do?
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Don Flamenco on November 09, 2012, 08:31:10 AM
I wonder if the GBA outsold the Vita this month. 

but i do like it much better than the 3DS.  the PSP+PS1 games on the oled alone elevate it.  but throw in a great UMVC3 port, MGS2+3 ports, and a serviceable (though a bit rough) NGS port, and it's pretty cool.  yeah, I know, ports are technically bad or something according to forums, but I happen to like them when they're of great games.

Vita could die completely and it would still have a decent selection of games to play on it, just not new ones.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: AdmiralViscen on November 09, 2012, 08:43:34 AM
Quote from: maxy on November 09, 2012, 01:55:22 AM
Vita is apparently at about 35k...

PSP < 10k < PSV < Wii < 50K < 100k < DS < 150k < PS3 < 200K < 3DS < 250K < 360

50k < 100k? Hopefully Europe can balance that out
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Great Rumbler on November 09, 2012, 09:54:07 AM
I don't know if those Dishonored numbers are good or not, but I'm just going to assume that they're good.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Purple Filth on November 09, 2012, 03:15:48 PM
vita getting nearer to that fire sale i see


very tragic  :'(, but another man's loss is my gain.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: AdmiralViscen on November 09, 2012, 03:47:27 PM
iOS
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Stoney Mason on November 09, 2012, 04:44:00 PM
Quote from: originalz on November 09, 2012, 06:00:29 AM
Wow, that new Medal of Honor game did decently considering how it was murdered in the reviews and overall seems to be a pretty below-average game.

Quote
-Medal of Honor 2010 was over 1 million, so this is a ~70% drop.


Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: iconoclast on November 09, 2012, 04:44:45 PM
Quote from: Premium Lager on November 09, 2012, 07:14:53 AM
I get where you're coming from but it doesn't add up, if the games you want are on the Vita...

I mean if you had the choice of getting a 3DS or Vita right now, free of charge what would you do?

I'd probably still get the 3DS to be honest. It does have games I want to play, it's just that the Vita's current library is more appealing to me (mostly because of DJ Max Technika). The thing is, there are also some 3DS games coming out next year I might want to play (Ace Attorney, SMT4, Fire Emblem, that Treasure game), whereas the Vita has nothing that I know of. So the 3DS has more long-term appeal.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Mupepe on November 09, 2012, 04:51:02 PM
Warning to anyone planning on going to Wal Mart for BF... Last year when I went they had only a few of each game sitting on palletts in the middle of the aisle.  They were allowed to be scavenged before the official sale time.  And everything that was in the cases where games usually are were actually full price.  They had very few games actually on sale.  It was a nice bait and switch. 
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Vertigo on November 09, 2012, 05:07:17 PM
Wow at the Vita.

Sony need to do the right thing and put it out of it's misery.

my condolences to the suckers who brought into it. Damm.

Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: G The Resurrected on November 09, 2012, 05:07:33 PM
Quote from: Mupepe on November 09, 2012, 04:51:02 PM
Warning to anyone planning on going to Wal Mart for BF... Last year when I went they had only a few of each game sitting on palletts in the middle of the aisle.  They were allowed to be scavenged before the official sale time.  And everything that was in the cases where games usually are were actually full price.  They had very few games actually on sale.  It was a nice bait and switch.
Yeah its very deceptive, I await them being sued for this shit eventually. They also have them in different departments. I'm gonna get my games from M$ store and price match Walmart there.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: maxy on November 14, 2012, 08:28:06 AM
01./00. [3DS] Animal Crossing: New Leaf # <SLG> (Nintendo) {2012.11.08} (¥4.800) - 603.064 / NEW
02./00. [PS3] Dynasty Warriors 7: Empires <ACT> (Koei Tecmo) {2012.11.08} (¥6.090) - 70.102 / NEW
03./00. [360] Halo 4 # <ACT> (Microsoft Game Studios) {2012.11.08} (¥7.140) - 39.312 / NEW
04./01. [PS3] Tales of Xillia 2 <RPG> (Bandai Namco Games) {2012.11.01} (¥8.380) - 34.789 / 399.228 (-90%)
05./05. [3DS] New Super Mario Bros. 2 <ACT> (Nintendo) {2012.07.28} (¥4.800) - 23.224 / 1.343.554 (-6%)
06./06. [3DS] Bravely Default: Flying Fairy <RPG> (Square Enix) {2012.10.11} (¥6.090) - 14.847 / 249.260 (-27%)
07./00. [PS3] Silent Hill: Downpour <ADV> (Konami) {2012.11.08} (¥6.980) - 13.516 / NEW
08./04. [PSP] World Soccer Winning Eleven 2013 <SPT> (Konami) {2012.11.01} (¥3.980) - 12.335 / 50.722 (-68%)
09./02. [PS3] Okami HD <ADV> (Capcom) {2012.11.01} (¥3.990) - 11.013 / 79.657 (-84%)
10./03. [PS3] Yakuza 1 & 2 HD Edition <ADV> (Sega) {2012.11.01} (¥5.229) - 10.073 / 68.211 (-83%)


3DS    187.077
PSV        4.021
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on November 14, 2012, 02:12:24 PM
Gawd I'm happy I don't for Sony anymore, or on Sony related localisation projects.

That Sony job security wouldn't allow me to make babies.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Great Rumbler on November 21, 2012, 07:59:16 PM
Quote
“The Last Story has been an amazing title for XSEED Games and it has become our most successful title to date,” said Ken Berry, Executive Vice President at XSEED Games. “This is a must have title for RPG fans, and we’re looking forward to more players discovering the magic that lies in Lazulis Island.”

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XSEED Games, an independent-minded publisher, is pleased to celebrate the success of its hit action RPG, The Last Story, by announcing that it is releasing an all-new standalone version of the Wii™ exclusive, which started shipping today to select retailers throughout North America at an MSRP of $29.99.

http://www.xseedgames.com/news.php?id=171
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: tiesto on November 21, 2012, 09:43:37 PM
Not really feeling Last Story so far, especially compared to Blue Dragon and Lost Odyssey... or if we are talking Rainfall games, Xenoblade (then again, few games compare to Xenoblade, aka the Game of the Generation). But good on XSEED.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Takao on November 22, 2012, 01:59:39 AM
Unfortunately that says more about the usual sales of XSEED's games than it does about any form of major success for The Last Story. Some guy in the GAF thread said NPD figures were about 50k ...
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Takao on November 22, 2012, 03:53:16 AM
It came out on Tuesday, what are you expecting? lol
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: DCharlieJP on November 22, 2012, 02:11:44 PM
Quote
my condolences to the suckers who brought into it. Damm

no condolences required - awesome machine, great games. Worst case scenario is it's a PSP Elite with some kick ass games - if it really does "die" (which i don't think it will)

I mean - if you are going to be in the hole for the whole vita project (1.X billion?) by pulling it, you might as well throw a few 100 mill around paying 3rd parties to dev and (hopefully) give the impression that there's support!
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Sho Nuff on November 22, 2012, 04:12:57 PM
I WILL buy one of these for $170 if I can swing it during the amazon sale.
Title: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Huff on November 22, 2012, 06:03:27 PM
And with the plus subscription you get basically every game worth getting
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Post by: Takao on November 26, 2012, 06:57:51 AM
PS All-Stars bomba gigante in the UK. Debuted at 38th on the All Formats chart.

Having spent some time with it (I won a copy) and it's kind of hard for me to really be disappointed by that. The game's missing some very big names, and the presentation of it all gives off the vibe it was low budget. The arcade mode is told with stills, and has no coherent narrative, and the UI is something that seems like it should be a placeholder. While complaining about the menus and stuff is pretty weird, that is the first thing you see once you get past the opening animation.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: maxy on November 26, 2012, 11:44:20 AM
Black Friday numbers should be reported tomorrow,right?

 :hyper

edit:

Spoke too soon,some last week Nintendo numbers

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Nintendo sold more than 1 million hardware units over the last week, the company has confirmed to CNET.

Nintendo of America president Reggie Fils-Aime told CNET in a phone interview today that during the last week, its internal data has shown total U.S. hardware sales have reached more than 1.2 million units. That figure includes the Wii U, Wii, 3DS, and DS.

According to Fils-Aime, Nintendo sold over 700,000 consoles during the last week. The Wii U topped the Wii with 400,000 units sold. The Wii, which Nintendo launched all the way back in 2006, was able to muster 300,000 Wii sales during the last week.

"Wii U is essentially sold out of retail and we are doing our best to continually replenish stock," Fils-Aime said. "Retailers are also doing their best to get the product to store shelves. But as soon as product hits retail, they're selling out immediately.

On the portable side, Nintendo sold more than 500,000 hardware units, including 250,000 3DS and 275,000 DS devices. Fils-Aime explained to CNET that the DS outsold the 3DS because of the "significant" deals retailers were offering on Black Friday.

http://news.cnet.com/8301-10797_3-57554183-235/nintendo-1.2-million-hardware-units-sold-400000-wii-u/
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Takao on November 26, 2012, 12:10:25 PM
Opening week for Wii was 600k.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Tasty on November 26, 2012, 12:14:04 PM
3DS down 50% YoY (http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=44762956#post44762956). :-\ Guess we know why they're chopping the price.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: maxy on November 26, 2012, 12:19:05 PM
DS>3DS

uh oh
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Tasty on November 26, 2012, 12:19:56 PM
Console launch numbers:

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Wii > PS2 > Wii U > 360 > PS3~=GC~=XBOX

So, not terrible, but it also isn't a good sign that it can be found on shelves in places.

3DS is crashing and burning, fuck. Give us actual good hardware design/3DS Lite, Nintendo!
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: archnemesis on November 26, 2012, 12:23:28 PM
At least it's doing good in Japan. I don't really know what it would need to sell well in Europe.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Takao on November 26, 2012, 12:28:00 PM
I wonder if Nintendo will moneyhat a GTA for 3DS. I don't think Rockstar would want to do it, but if you pay them enough ...
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: maxy on November 26, 2012, 12:28:12 PM
DS = cheap,hackable,tons of games
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: archnemesis on November 26, 2012, 12:38:01 PM
Yeah, that's probably it. Europeans are used to being able to pirate everything.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Tasty on November 26, 2012, 12:49:58 PM
Damn Poles.  >:(
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Great Rumbler on November 26, 2012, 01:17:25 PM
Quote from: Andrex on November 26, 2012, 12:19:56 PM
Console launch numbers:

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Wii > PS2 > Wii U > 360 > PS3~=GC~=XBOX

So, not terrible, but it also isn't a good sign that it can be found on shelves in places.

Bear in mind that the Wii was the followup to the Gamecube, a system that sold just over 20 million worldwide.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: maxy on November 26, 2012, 01:20:10 PM
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Walking through Best Buy and Wal-Mart several days ago and could hear people going, "Huh? What happened to the Wii?" while looking at the damn display for the Wii U.

 :lol
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Joe Molotov on November 26, 2012, 01:55:25 PM
Are those shipped numbers or sold numbers for the Wii U? :teehee
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: AdmiralViscen on November 26, 2012, 03:43:09 PM
Quote from: Andrex on November 26, 2012, 12:19:56 PM
Console launch numbers:

Quote
Wii > PS2 > Wii U > 360 > PS3~=GC~=XBOX

So, not terrible, but it also isn't a good sign that it can be found on shelves in places.

3DS is crashing and burning, fuck. Give us actual good hardware design/3DS Lite, Nintendo!

Every single one of the consoles Wii U outsold was sold out on launch day. The only one I can't say that about for sure is the original XBox.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Tasty on November 26, 2012, 03:59:50 PM
Who cares, we're talking about sales. Nintendo overshipped, but the bottom line is what counts in this discussion. With a sufficient amount of stock, any console might not have sold out.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Great Rumbler on November 26, 2012, 04:03:22 PM
And yet a severely supply-constrained Wii, successor to the hapless Gamecube, pulled in 50% more sales.

Not that it really matters what the Wii U does during its launch, it'll be the next few months and the next year that tell the tale.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: AdmiralViscen on November 26, 2012, 04:28:45 PM
Quote from: Andrex on November 26, 2012, 03:59:50 PM
Who cares, we're talking about sales. Nintendo overshipped, but the bottom line is what counts in this discussion. With a sufficient amount of stock, any console might not have sold out.

The point is that every one of those consoles would have sold more if available, making Wii U's "victory" over them pretty meaningless. It would probably be dead last if not for availability issues.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Tasty on November 26, 2012, 04:35:19 PM
I doubt it would be last, but now we've stepped into dream speculation land in what should be a sales thread.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: AdmiralViscen on November 26, 2012, 04:49:04 PM
Quote from: Andrex on November 26, 2012, 04:35:19 PM
I doubt it would be last, but now we've stepped into dream speculation land in what should be a sales thread.

The original > chain, if it was meant to prove a point about Wii U's popularity, was already fantasy land. It was a meaningless indicator that was not apples to apples.

With Wii U's plentiful on store shelves, I think it is appropriate in a sales thread to say that the Wii U will fall behind these consoles it "beat" in your pointless comparison in short order. Which is the point I was making.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on November 26, 2012, 05:13:41 PM
Im 100% sure the new xbox will have a bigger launch then wiiu
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Tasty on November 26, 2012, 05:17:26 PM
Quote from: Premium Lager on November 26, 2012, 05:13:41 PM
Im 100% sure the new xbox will have a bigger launch then wiiu

I'm not sure, depending on how high the cost is plus how supply constrained it is, it could do worse. Wouldn't really mean anything though.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: ToxicAdam on November 26, 2012, 05:50:50 PM
I think MS has built up a dedicated fan base of 6-8 million people that will instabuy whatever they release.

Kinect was proof of that.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Tasty on November 26, 2012, 05:55:14 PM
Kinect was Wii 2: Electric Boogaloo. Those casuals are not going to buy a whole new system at launch, especially if it's expensive.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on November 26, 2012, 06:02:12 PM
I know Xbox 360 had huge shortages that lasted for several months and while demand was high, it had more to do with Microsoft barely putting any out (most of which were RRODs I'm sure) than extremely high demand.  It was so bad I bought a Japanese unit (which there were plenty of, lol) and played Asian versions of games that had English text.  I remember PS2 being bad for quite some time as well.  I remember you couldn't get one for well into 2001.

I think Wii U will do fine.  I'm glad that you can find some on the shelves because fuck the flippers.  Those twats snapped up all of the online preorders because they were hoping they could flip one for $800+.  I think that did give the impression that Wii U was going to do gangbusters.  February 2013 on will be the real test.  January is still going to have the people who can't find one for Christmas try to get one when the holiday season is over.  I'm sure Nintendo charged $300-350 because they know that a PS4/Durango SKU will be $300-350 so Nintendo is trying to make as much fast cash as they can.  If you don't want a Wii U that bad, Nintendo will probably drop it by $50-100 for next Fall.  Maybe rather than play NSMBU over and over, there might be two or three other games worth owning released for the first few months of the Wii U.

I don't know what to say about 3DS.  I guess the iOS market has taken such a huge bite out of the portable market that the 3DS is struggling.  Nintendo might have to get off their asses and make some more compelling content in the vein of 3D Land instead of NSMB2.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on November 26, 2012, 06:09:39 PM
MS is THE company when it comes to online gaming on consoles. Xbox had Halo, 360 had Gears and I bet as we speak MS is making some killer must have app that will sway the dudebro casual and hardcore online community to buy the next xbox as soon as it hits.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on November 26, 2012, 06:13:30 PM
As far as I know, this next generation is Microsoft's to win.  Sony is so incompetent these days that I find it hard to believe they can snap back into reality just in time for the PS4.  Nintendo is going to take a long ass time fixing their numerous problems and only because they feel coerced to; they were willing to march into failure until Capcom pressed for them to drop the price of the 3DS.  Microsoft has the strongest online network that looks to only become stronger if Windows 8 means anything.  Given the $1 billion+ clusterfuck known as RROD, I could see reliability being a high priority as well.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: DCharlieJP on November 26, 2012, 06:59:48 PM
unprecedented preorder numbers!
GS have 550k preorders alone!
Preorders all sold out in hours

... 400k

Nintendo fans in shock and disbelief?

NO! AMAZING SALES! MY GOD!!!!

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Those casuals are not going to buy a whole new system at launch, especially if it's expensive.

you know - the Wii U is expensive to most people as well - including casuals. This is like a rerun of the 3DS/Vita argument which went :

1) 3DS is $249 so the Vita is going to be $399 ! lol
2) Oh the Vita is going to be $249 as well? Oh wow
3) Lol , the 3DS is now $150 - Lol at the price of the Vita lol. So overpriced.

The look on peoples faces when MS release the machine at $350 but, then, we know the Wii U will dump down to $199 then it'll be "sheesh, X720... so expensive #fingerwag"

Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Tasty on November 26, 2012, 09:37:24 PM
Quote from: DCharlieJP on November 26, 2012, 06:59:48 PM
unprecedented preorder numbers!
GS have 550k preorders alone!
Preorders all sold out in hours

... 400k

Nintendo fans in shock and disbelief?

NO! AMAZING SALES! MY GOD!!!!

Quote
Those casuals are not going to buy a whole new system at launch, especially if it's expensive.

you know - the Wii U is expensive to most people as well - including casuals. This is like a rerun of the 3DS/Vita argument which went :

1) 3DS is $249 so the Vita is going to be $399 ! lol
2) Oh the Vita is going to be $249 as well? Oh wow
3) Lol , the 3DS is now $150 - Lol at the price of the Vita lol. So overpriced.

You realize if this analogy holds true the Wii U will be beating the other consoles' asses with a paddle, right? :lol

Of course Wii U is expensive for casuals, I never said it wasn't. Talking purely about the other launches. Who knows if they'll be higher or lower than Wii U's, I don't think they will be, and it'll have nothing to do with the demand or quality of either console.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: maxy on November 27, 2012, 02:55:25 PM
Right on time :bow2

http://majornelson.com/2012/11/27/xbox-360-black-friday-report/

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I just checked the internal data for our Black Friday numbers* and wanted to let you know that over the Holiday weekend:

Xbox 360 sold more than 750,000 consoles in the U.S. alone –exceeding internal forecasts.
Three month Xbox LIVE Gold Subscription sales increased more than 50 percent compared to last year’s Black Friday week.
We saw incredible activity on Xbox over the weekend. For example, on Sunday alone we had more than 14 million people on Xbox LIVE across the world, racking up more than 72 million hours of use in just one day.
Compared to 2011, we’ve seen a 43 percent increase in U.S. entertainment application hours logged on Xbox LIVE during the week of Black Friday.

* Sunday, Nov. 18 – Friday, Nov. 23

Lower than last year(960k) but still impressive.Not sure what was the exact coverage period last year though.

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2012 November NPD Coverage: October 28-November 24 (4 weeks, October was 4 weeks)
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Joe Molotov on November 27, 2012, 02:59:31 PM
360 :piss WiiU
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: maxy on November 27, 2012, 03:11:30 PM
360>WiiU+Wii
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: bork on November 27, 2012, 03:23:53 PM
Quote from: DCharlieJP on November 26, 2012, 06:59:48 PM
unprecedented preorder numbers!
GS have 550k preorders alone!
Preorders all sold out in hours

... 400k

Nintendo fans in shock and disbelief?

NO! AMAZING SALES! MY GOD!!!!

 :lol :lol :lol

Quote from: maxy on November 27, 2012, 02:55:25 PM
Right on time :bow2

http://majornelson.com/2012/11/27/xbox-360-black-friday-report/

Quote
I just checked the internal data for our Black Friday numbers* and wanted to let you know that over the Holiday weekend:

Xbox 360 sold more than 750,000 consoles in the U.S. alone –exceeding internal forecasts.
Three month Xbox LIVE Gold Subscription sales increased more than 50 percent compared to last year’s Black Friday week.
We saw incredible activity on Xbox over the weekend. For example, on Sunday alone we had more than 14 million people on Xbox LIVE across the world, racking up more than 72 million hours of use in just one day.
Compared to 2011, we’ve seen a 43 percent increase in U.S. entertainment application hours logged on Xbox LIVE during the week of Black Friday.

:rofl

Man.  And that's in less than a week!
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on November 27, 2012, 03:24:23 PM
What are the odds of ms providing some bigger service then xbl gold?

Im thinking XBL Platinum, free games on demand, movies etc.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: maxy on November 27, 2012, 03:31:47 PM
Very likely, but you will have to wait until next gen for that.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: bachikarn on November 27, 2012, 05:01:11 PM
With the 360 still selling so well, it there a chance the 720 could slip into 2014?
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Trent Dole on November 28, 2012, 12:36:54 AM
Quote from: bachikarn on November 27, 2012, 05:01:11 PM
With the 360 still selling so well, it there a chance the 720 could slip into 2014?
God I hope not, it its past time for actual next gen machines.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Stoney Mason on November 28, 2012, 12:40:07 AM
If the next MS box comes out in 2013 I'll buy that sight unseen over any other console. If they wait until 2014 fuck them. I'll just buy the next Playstation system and that's it. It's way past time for a real new console and the Wii U doesn't count.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: maxy on November 28, 2012, 03:13:27 AM
I think there is a chance that next xbox slips into early 2014.

As for PS4,latest batch of rumors strongly point at 2013 release...near final dev kits in January,final devkits around E3,devs having production milestones in August

PS3 holiday lineup is a bit slim too,I bet PS4 will have a pretty strong launch lineup.
(http://i229.photobucket.com/albums/ee137/aranathos/0026861.jpg)
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: archnemesis on November 28, 2012, 03:23:26 AM
Yep, that's a really weak holiday lineup. At least Wonderbook looks sort of interesting if you have younger kids.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Takao on November 28, 2012, 04:14:53 AM
I'm willing to wager that SCE thought that The Last of Us would make 2012.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Himu on November 28, 2012, 04:18:45 AM
Out of all the next Gen consoles the next xbox has my interest the most. Prolly cuz I have so many xbla.games. hopefully 720 comes out next year.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Himu on November 28, 2012, 04:20:58 AM
Quote from: Joe Molotov on November 27, 2012, 02:59:31 PM
360 :piss WiiWho

Fixed
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: archnemesis on November 28, 2012, 04:28:14 AM
Don't you own a PC, Himuro? I think pretty much all of the interesting XBLA games except Shadow Complex and Geometry Wars are available on Steam now.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: pilonv1 on November 28, 2012, 04:46:24 AM
Quote from: Takao on November 28, 2012, 04:14:53 AM
I'm willing to wager that SCE thought that The Last of Us would make 2012.

p. sure it happened before in 2011 when Little Big Planet slipped to January. Here's their first party list from that Q4

Quote
2010

September

Sports Champions
Kung Fu Rider
M.A.G.
EyePet
Start the Party!
echochrome 2 (PSN)

October

TV Superstars
Hustle Kings
PAIN (PSN)
The Fight: Lights Out
The Shoot
High Velocity Bowling (PSN)
Heavy Rain

November

Sly Collection
SingStar Dance
Buzz! The Ultimate Music Quiz
Gran Turismo 5

GT5 wasn't out until late November either.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: DCharlieJP on November 28, 2012, 05:03:42 AM
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Supply constrainted

yeah, we should point out that the X360 is supply constrainted. ;)
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: pilonv1 on November 28, 2012, 06:00:40 AM
More like consumer constrained
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: maxy on November 28, 2012, 06:05:32 AM
Leave WiiU alone,it did pretty good for one week.We'll see what NPD says.

As for PS4,rumor says that Uncharted 4 outsourcing has begun.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: AdmiralViscen on November 28, 2012, 08:09:46 AM
Man, I have completely lost track of the Ratchet franchise. I used to buy every one of those
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Beezy on November 28, 2012, 08:32:25 AM
Quote from: archnemesis on November 28, 2012, 04:28:14 AM
Don't you own a PC, Himuro? I think pretty much all of the interesting XBLA games except Shadow Complex and Geometry Wars are available on Steam now.
not the japanesse stuff
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: archnemesis on November 28, 2012, 08:34:32 AM
There are Japanese XBLA exclusives? What are those, shoot 'em ups?
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Beezy on November 28, 2012, 08:43:35 AM
mainly
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Momo on November 28, 2012, 09:56:29 AM
eXceed is fun enough for me. Not really gonna travel with Cave. Not worth the effort
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Joe Molotov on November 28, 2012, 10:00:26 AM
Quote from: Beezy on November 28, 2012, 08:32:25 AM
Quote from: archnemesis on November 28, 2012, 04:28:14 AM
Don't you own a PC, Himuro? I think pretty much all of the interesting XBLA games except Shadow Complex and Geometry Wars are available on Steam now.
not the japanesse stuff

Even that's starting to come. We got Sine Mora and Half-Minute Hero.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Himu on November 28, 2012, 10:41:07 AM
Games like Daytona? Nope. Games like VF5fs? Nope. Games like xb on demand? Nope. Hence you still must rely on xbl on the every other game.

I have heard nothing of the upcoming Model 2 collection coming to steam. Steam doesn't even have stuff like xplosian man or woman. Yeah, I think I will keep going xbox unless people start putting this shit on PC.it sucks because ideally I only want PC.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Himu on November 28, 2012, 10:46:25 AM
Seriously there is no excuse to not have your product on steam. Sega in particular frustrates me. They say they're shifting to a dd emphasis model and STILL don't have  VF5FS on steam nor Nights nor VF2 soon but they put sonic adventure 2 and JSR HD on steam? Shit is inconsistent as fuck.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Steve Youngblood on November 28, 2012, 11:12:40 AM
So, random question. Where did Oscar go?
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Himu on November 28, 2012, 11:23:02 AM
My bed.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Steve Youngblood on November 28, 2012, 11:24:35 AM
Quote from: Formerly Known As Himuro on November 28, 2012, 11:23:02 AM
My bed.

Oh, you rascal, you.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Tasty on November 28, 2012, 11:52:33 AM
Quote from: Steve Youngblood on November 28, 2012, 11:12:40 AM
So, random question. Where did Oscar go?

Real life/family/Twitter.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Eel O'Brian on November 28, 2012, 12:01:06 PM
who is oscar on twitter
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Steve Youngblood on November 28, 2012, 12:12:58 PM
Never mind. Apologies.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Himu on November 28, 2012, 12:14:42 PM
I'm not sure if he's comfortable sharing his twitter account on here considering he deleted his original Segata account to separate himself from the identity. Posting his new one here, with his real name even, kinda defeats that.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Steve Youngblood on November 28, 2012, 12:16:45 PM
Quote from: Formerly Known As Himuro on November 28, 2012, 12:14:42 PM
I'm not sure if he's comfortable sharing his twitter account on here considering he deleted his original Segata account to separate himself from the identity. Posting his new one here, with his real name even, kinda defeats that.

Edited. Perhaps a bad call, but I figured it out with minimal sleuthing, so I didn't think much of it. My apologies nonetheless.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: cool breeze on November 28, 2012, 12:41:38 PM
Quote from: maxy on November 28, 2012, 03:13:27 AM
I think there is a chance that next xbox slips into early 2014.

As for PS4,latest batch of rumors strongly point at 2013 release...near final dev kits in January,final devkits around E3,devs having production milestones in August

PS3 holiday lineup is a bit slim too,I bet PS4 will have a pretty strong launch lineup.

yeah, the 2012 holiday lineup is so bad that Sony didn't waste money advertising it! Microsoft had one huge game with Halo 4 and the 360 is still the place where people buy multiplatform games.  Everything has been pushed or initially scheduled for first half 2013.

Gen has gone on so long that all these publishers are spent.  I remember after the 360 released you still had big games coming for the PS2/Xbox.  I'd imagine most have been prepping for next gen for some time now.  Also remember when the E3 shows leading up to this gen where Microsoft showed off Mass Effect, Splinter Cell Hobo, and Too Human.  Sony first showed off Infamous, Uncharted, Assassin's Creed, Resistance, Heavenly Sword, Lair, Motorstorm, and Killzone 2.  What's funny is that now there is more or less parity of third party support.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on November 28, 2012, 12:42:45 PM
I miss Oscar!
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Tasty on November 28, 2012, 12:50:27 PM
Media Create Sales: Week 47, 2012 (Nov 19 - Nov 25) (http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=501734)

In contrast to America, 3DS up YoY to no one's surprise and should surpass PS3 LTD in the next week or two. Vita has pulled itself out of the quadruple digits. Edit- Oops, that was the PSP, my bad. :lol Vita remains in the quadruple digits. Japanese want Pokemon games for 3DS. EX Troopers 3DS kinda bombed, and EX Troopers for PS3 super bombed. AC 3DS still dominating. Bravely Default probably topping out around 270k, which ain't bad.

News at 11.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: archnemesis on November 28, 2012, 12:53:43 PM
I'm a bit surprised that the PS3 version of EX Troopers sold so badly. It seems like a game that could use dual analog sticks and high resolution.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Tasty on November 28, 2012, 12:56:11 PM
Is EX Troopers on the eShop? Seems like a better match for it than retail.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Great Rumbler on November 28, 2012, 01:24:39 PM
Quote from: Andrex on November 28, 2012, 12:50:27 PM
Media Create Sales: Week 47, 2012 (Nov 19 - Nov 25) (http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=501734)

3DS will pass the PS3 overall in Japan in just another month or two.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Mr. Gundam on November 28, 2012, 01:29:20 PM
Still waiting for my copy of E.X. Troopers to get here in the mail, but I'm guessing the mega-boma is probably the deathknell for a localized version.

And why would digital/eShop be a better match? I see people say things like that all the time and it always confuses me.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Takao on November 28, 2012, 01:30:09 PM
Quote from: Andrex on November 28, 2012, 12:50:27 PM
Media Create Sales: Week 47, 2012 (Nov 19 - Nov 25) (http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=501734)

In contrast to America, 3DS up YoY to no one's surprise and should surpass PS3 LTD in the next week or two. Vita has pulled itself out of the quadruple digits. Edit- Oops, that was the PSP, my bad. :lol Vita remains in the quadruple digits. Japanese want Pokemon games for 3DS. EX Troopers 3DS kinda bombed, and EX Troopers for PS3 super bombed. AC 3DS still dominating. Bravely Default probably topping out around 270k, which ain't bad.

News at 11.

Based off the sales of Mystery Dungeon 3DS, they don't actually. Or maybe they want the real ones, as that's the worst debut for a Mystery Dungeon game ever.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Rahxephon91 on November 28, 2012, 02:08:03 PM
Damn it. I wanted EX troopers to come here.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: ToxicAdam on November 28, 2012, 02:38:04 PM
I don't follow Japanese sales figures, but has handheld/mobile completely destroyed the console scene over there? Did the Wii sell well?

Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: SantaC on November 28, 2012, 02:41:19 PM
Quote
´Rich ‏@RichIGN

In less than two years the Nintendo 3DS has surpassed lifetime sales of the GameCube, 2/3 of the N64 and nearly half of SNES. Interesting...
Expand Collapse

How very sad   :'(

the 3DS is a decent machine, but the games are nowhere near gamecube's library of quality.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Great Rumbler on November 28, 2012, 02:53:01 PM
Quote from: ToxicAdam on November 28, 2012, 02:38:04 PM
I don't follow Japanese sales figures, but has handheld/mobile completely destroyed the console scene over there? Did the Wii sell well?

The Wii sold just a bit more than a third of what the DS sold and only 30% more than the PS3, which is about to be passed by the 3DS. The PSP has sold about as much as the PS3 and Wii combined.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: bork on November 28, 2012, 03:09:31 PM
Quote from: archnemesis on November 28, 2012, 12:53:43 PM
I'm a bit surprised that the PS3 version of EX Troopers sold so badly. It seems like a game that could use dual analog sticks and high resolution.

It's a pretty ho-hum game.  I regret importing it, although people on GAF say it gets better and blah blah blah.  That may be true, but it's hard to sit through cut scene after cut scene of ANIMU SCI-FI BATTORU SKOORU RAIFU and dialogue, only to play a super-easy two minute "mission."

It's been so boring that I haven't even played enough to unlock the multiplayer mode yet.  Really disappointing for me since I like Lost Planet.  Good manga-style presentation though.

Quote from: Rahxephon91 on November 28, 2012, 02:08:03 PM
Damn it. I wanted EX troopers to come here.

There was no chance it was ever coming out here anyway.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on November 28, 2012, 03:26:27 PM
Why do Japanese keep buying handhelds? Don't they have mobiles/tablets?
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Tasty on November 28, 2012, 03:29:44 PM
Quote from: Mr. Gundam on November 28, 2012, 01:29:20 PM
And why would digital/eShop be a better match? I see people say things like that all the time and it always confuses me.

Lower risk, you don't lose money on manufacturing/stocking fees when things go tits up. Basically you're only in the hole for development, which is a better financial prospect.

Only downside is a smaller avenue for potential sales, but in low performing titles like these the tradeoff is usually worth it since only the hardcore followers buy it and they're likely to do "what it takes" (downloading instead of purchasing retail) to play it.

I could be way off, but that's my assessment.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Mr. Gundam on November 28, 2012, 03:41:46 PM
Digital only titles are a big turn off for me. I know I'm an old fogey dinsosaur and all, but I like having some sort of physical item to show for my hard earned dollars.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Steve Youngblood on November 28, 2012, 03:47:17 PM
I prefer physical on consoles, and digital by a country mile on PC.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: ToxicAdam on November 28, 2012, 03:47:43 PM
Quote from: Premium Lager on November 28, 2012, 03:26:27 PM
Why do Japanese keep buying handhelds? Don't they have mobiles/tablets?

I would imagine a lot of it has to do with some exclusive titles that keep drawing people back in (like Dragon Warrior, Mario, Fire Emblem, etc)
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Mr. Gundam on November 28, 2012, 04:43:03 PM
Quote from: Steve Youngblood on November 28, 2012, 03:47:17 PM
I prefer physical on consoles, and digital by a country mile on PC.

Yeah, I'm ok with Steam since I don't buy a whole lot. However, on consoles, I like my physical stuff.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: tiesto on November 28, 2012, 04:52:50 PM
Quote from: Mr. Gundam on November 28, 2012, 03:41:46 PM
Digital only titles are a big turn off for me. I know I'm an old fogey dinsosaur and all, but I like having some sort of physical item to show for my hard earned dollars.

Digital is fine for me if it's throwaway prices (like, $5 for a Steam game, $1 for an XBL Indie)... but I definitely prefer physical stuff, especially collectors editions with "feelies", to use an old PC game term. My biggest issue with digital is that I hate digital rights management, and am always fearful that 20 or so years down the line I won't be able to play some older games (you can even see stuff like this happening now, Outrun XBLA pulled due to SEGA not wanting to renew their Ferrari rights). I'm primarily a retro gamer and have no trouble going back and playing a 20 year old game right after playing something released a month ago, and worry that the game industry will lose a lot of its history this way.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Rahxephon91 on November 28, 2012, 05:31:44 PM
Quote from: bork laser on November 28, 2012, 03:09:31 PM



There was no chance it was ever coming out here anyway.
Yeah, you're probably right, but I thought since there was a PS3 version maybe there was a slight chance.
Quote from: Steve Youngblood on November 28, 2012, 03:47:17 PM
I prefer physical on consoles, and digital by a country mile on PC.
Yeah pretty much the same. I'm sorry I just like having a shelf of stuff.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Steve Youngblood on November 28, 2012, 05:42:52 PM
Quote from: Rahxephon91 on November 28, 2012, 05:31:44 PM
Yeah pretty much the same. I'm sorry I just like having a shelf of stuff.

Well, I actually prefer digital in general being a disorganized person that isn't really a collector. It's just that I don't find consoles as conducive to digital content. Prices aren't very competitive, and I don't think the services are as good as something like Steam for distributing it. Further, there are actual benefits to physical in the console world in the form of resale and lending-out/transferring.

On the PC side, more often than not the discs are just mechanisms for distributing content for installation. If I buy a physical game here it's more often than not only used to grab the key and type it into Steam or Battle.net or whatever before being chucked unless the manual is worthwhile. It helps that my PC hardrives weigh in at 1 TB and 640 Gigs. This is compared to my 60 GB PS3 harddrive, my 20 GB Xbox harddrive, and my 8 Gigs of memory on my Wii U basic unit.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: maxy on November 28, 2012, 06:24:40 PM
Quote from: fryinghigh on November 28, 2012, 12:41:38 PM
Quote from: maxy on November 28, 2012, 03:13:27 AM
I think there is a chance that next xbox slips into early 2014.

As for PS4,latest batch of rumors strongly point at 2013 release...near final dev kits in January,final devkits around E3,devs having production milestones in August

PS3 holiday lineup is a bit slim too,I bet PS4 will have a pretty strong launch lineup.

yeah, the 2012 holiday lineup is so bad that Sony didn't waste money advertising it! Microsoft had one huge game with Halo 4 and the 360 is still the place where people buy multiplatform games.  Everything has been pushed or initially scheduled for first half 2013.

Gen has gone on so long that all these publishers are spent.  I remember after the 360 released you still had big games coming for the PS2/Xbox.  I'd imagine most have been prepping for next gen for some time now.  Also remember when the E3 shows leading up to this gen where Microsoft showed off Mass Effect, Splinter Cell Hobo, and Too Human.  Sony first showed off Infamous, Uncharted, Assassin's Creed, Resistance, Heavenly Sword, Lair, Motorstorm, and Killzone 2.  What's funny is that now there is more or less parity of third party support.

PS2 had GOW and FF12,I think.

I bet this time we'll see lots of multi-gen titles for a while.EA is rumored to have BF4 ready for launch--360/PS3(720p30fps) and next gen(1080p60fps).

Anyway we are now probably very close to official reveals,January is only a month away.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: AdmiralViscen on November 28, 2012, 08:34:04 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on November 28, 2012, 08:28:37 PM
hey guys, andrex directed me here on twitter

right now my family is having a bit of a situation that requires my full attention, and stuff with my business is demanding extra time (end of year report cards for the students and stuff), so i've had no time for fun stuffs like forums

i don't mind if you guys pm my twitter around, but i'd rather not have my real name explicitly connected to oscar/segata so i'd appreciate if you didn't post it openly on the forums

if all goes well i should be back here talking shit about whatever is going on come january or so.  if all goes well.

I miss you
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: pilonv1 on November 28, 2012, 08:54:04 PM
Hope all is well Oscar, come back soon!
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Purple Filth on November 28, 2012, 09:01:24 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on November 28, 2012, 08:28:37 PM
hey guys, andrex directed me here on twitter

right now my family is having a bit of a situation that requires my full attention, and stuff with my business is demanding extra time (end of year report cards for the students and stuff), so i've had no time for fun stuffs like forums

i don't mind if you guys pm my twitter around, but i'd rather not have my real name explicitly connected to oscar/segata so i'd appreciate if you didn't post it openly on the forums

if all goes well i should be back here talking shit about whatever is going on come january or so.  if all goes well.

godspeed man.

You better be back for Wii U impressions  :P
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Tasty on November 28, 2012, 09:10:58 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on November 28, 2012, 08:28:37 PM
hey guys, andrex directed me here on twitter

right now my family is having a bit of a situation that requires my full attention, and stuff with my business is demanding extra time (end of year report cards for the students and stuff), so i've had no time for fun stuffs like forums

i don't mind if you guys pm my twitter around, but i'd rather not have my real name explicitly connected to oscar/segata so i'd appreciate if you didn't post it openly on the forums

if all goes well i should be back here talking shit about whatever is going on come january or so.  if all goes well.

With your new Wii U, right Oscar-san? :uguu
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Post by: Steve Youngblood on November 29, 2012, 12:29:29 AM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on November 28, 2012, 08:28:37 PM
hey guys, andrex directed me here on twitter

right now my family is having a bit of a situation that requires my full attention, and stuff with my business is demanding extra time (end of year report cards for the students and stuff), so i've had no time for fun stuffs like forums

i don't mind if you guys pm my twitter around, but i'd rather not have my real name explicitly connected to oscar/segata so i'd appreciate if you didn't post it openly on the forums

if all goes well i should be back here talking shit about whatever is going on come january or so.  if all goes well.

January? That's like, over a month away. Awww...

And again, my apologies for briefly linking anything Twitter related. I wasn't even sure if that was you, but just guessed at it based on what little knowledge I had. I meant no invasion of privacy.
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Post by: cool breeze on November 29, 2012, 02:44:52 AM
Quote from: Steve Youngblood on November 28, 2012, 03:47:17 PM
I prefer physical on consoles, and digital by a country mile on PC.

Same.  I'm comfortable with it on PC because I can backup my games, and with a few exceptions, that I can still play the game years down the road.  With consoles, sometimes I'd rather spend more to import a retail copy.

I guess the more security I feel I have, the more I'm willing to spend.  So, at the top is something like GoG/DRM-free, then Steam, and it continues until you hit the bottom with Nintendo.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Takao on November 29, 2012, 02:09:34 PM
PS3 did 525k Black Friday week. Vita did 160k.

Those aren't terrible Vita numbers, though I wish they were higher. : /
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Great Rumbler on November 29, 2012, 02:17:20 PM
Quote from: Takao on November 29, 2012, 02:09:34 PM
PS3 did 525k Black Friday week. Vita did 160k.

Those aren't terrible Vita numbers, though I wish they were higher. : /

The 3DS numbers weren't really that great and it was 90k more than the Vita.
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Post by: Takao on November 29, 2012, 02:19:13 PM
Yes, but 3DS has a lineup of software people actually would buy hardware for. Call of Duty 2/10 doesn't fit that bill.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Great Rumbler on November 29, 2012, 02:25:48 PM
The Vita has lots of awesome PSP games, though. :smug
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Post by: maxy on November 29, 2012, 02:27:30 PM
Is there any data about last year Sony BF numbers?

160k Vita is not that bad*


*for a dead system
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Purple Filth on November 29, 2012, 02:37:26 PM
vita number is passable but mostly due to the 3ds numbers (which are not that great for the next ninty handheld).


FUCK YOU IPAD, FUCK YOU  :'(
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Takao on November 29, 2012, 02:41:38 PM
Yep, RIP traditional handhelds in the west.

which in turn means RIP me playing Japanese video games :'(
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: maxy on November 29, 2012, 02:44:34 PM
Can't believe I missed this

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Sony sold over 525,000 PlayStation 3s and 160,000 PS Vitas in North America during the week of Black Friday (Nov. 18-24), it has announced.

meh

Nintendo and MS numbers are US only
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Steve Contra on November 29, 2012, 03:05:22 PM
Not that hard to work out the numbers.  Just subtract about 9% and you're close.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Great Rumbler on November 29, 2012, 03:23:00 PM
It was Steve Youngblood earlier in this thread, and he edited out Oscar's Twitter account three minutes after he posted it.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Don Flamenco on November 29, 2012, 03:30:34 PM
Quote from: Great Rumbler on November 29, 2012, 02:25:48 PM
The Vita has lots of awesome PSP games, though. :smug


best PSP ever!   


but holy fuck at those numbers, handhelds getting bitch smacked.   All those Vitas are gonna be filling up gamestop's used section if they don't announce some games. 
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Purple Filth on November 29, 2012, 03:33:02 PM
Quote from: maxy on November 29, 2012, 02:44:34 PM
Can't believe I missed this

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Sony sold over 525,000 PlayStation 3s and 160,000 PS Vitas in North America during the week of Black Friday (Nov. 18-24), it has announced.

meh

Nintendo and MS numbers are US only


apparently its actually US only in their PR cnbc took (it even had the number = additional notes stuff  :lol).

http://www.cnbc.com/id/50013347

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In total, more than 525,000 PS3 consoles were sold in the US during Black Friday week1
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Steve Youngblood on November 29, 2012, 03:35:20 PM
Quote from: Great Rumbler on November 29, 2012, 03:23:00 PM
It was Steve Youngblood earlier in this thread, and he edited out Oscar's Twitter account three minutes after he posted it.

With apologies! Please don't have demi nuke me, Borys!
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Post by: Don Flamenco on November 30, 2012, 08:32:18 AM
will drop pants for oscar nudes
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Joe Molotov on November 30, 2012, 09:13:26 AM
will put on pants for oscar nudes
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: maxy on December 03, 2012, 04:15:10 AM
http://www.vg247.com/2012/12/03/uk-charts-black-ops-2-holds-top-wii-u-peaks-at-11th/

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Nintendo’s highest Wii U entry is Nintendo Land at 11th place, surpassing fellow console releases New Super Mario Bros. U and ZombiU. Bear in mind however that it’s a single format, has just come out and is in limited supply.

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Nintendo’s high-end Premium Wii U SKU was by far the most attractive to UK buyers over the console’s launch weekend.

That’s according to data from GfK Chart-Track, which says that the £300 bundle won around a 60 per cent share of the console’s launch weekend sales.

The ZombiU bundle accounted for 30 per cent, leaving Nintendo’s entry-level 8GB Basic pack grabbing just 10 per cent.

The machine was helped by a 24-strong launch software line-up what Chart-Track describes as “more than any other home console ever launched in the UK”. Wii launched with just 14 games, for instance.

The highest Wii U entry in the software charts was bundled game Nintendo Land, although it failed to break into the Top Ten, debuting at No.11. Fellow first party release New Super Mario Bros U entered the listings in 13th with Ubisoft claiming the highest charting third party title – ZombiU in 17th.

No other Wii U exclusives charted.

http://www.mcvuk.com/news/read/premium-wii-u-bundle-claims-60-per-cent-of-launch-sales/0107412
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Himu on December 03, 2012, 04:21:16 AM
Number one game and it's number 11? Goddamn, excepted top five at least.
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Post by: maxy on December 03, 2012, 05:03:24 AM
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Square Enix’s ‘Hitman Absolution’ drops from a debut last week at No2 to No4 this week (-51%) and Ubsioft drop 1 place to No5 with ‘Assassin’s Creed III’ (53,923), which this week gains 2 Wii U SKU’s (Standard edition and Join or Die edition). Ubisoft’s ‘Just Dance 4’ moves up 1 place to No6 (+48%) and also gets a Wii U edition. Warner’s ‘Lego The Lord of the Rings’ is at No7 (+6%) and Microsoft’s ‘Halo 4’ drops 3 places to No8 (-12%). Activision’s ‘Skylanders Giants’ is at No9 (+4%) also with a Wii U version and EA’s ‘Need For Speed Most Wanted’ takes No10 (+28%). The Top 3 Wii U titles all debut in the Top 40 with Nintendo’s ‘Nintendo Land’ at No11, ‘New Super Mario Bros. U’ at No 14 and Ubisoft’s ‘Zombi U’ at No17. In summary, there were 5 Wii U SKU’s of titles within the Top 10 and 10 Wii U versions of titles within the Top 40.

For the first time Chart-Track has given some exact number,interesting.

I think WiiU is about 20-30k something

/
some gaf dude says 26k for Nintendoland

hmm
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: maxy on December 03, 2012, 06:33:30 AM
gaf UK launch summary

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Wii U hardware:

60% Nintendo Land Bundles.
30% ZombiU Bundles.
10% Basic

Wii U Software

Assassin's Creed III, 3% or 1618 copies.
Call of Duty Black Ops II 1%
Sonic All Stars Racing Transformed 38%
Just Dance 4 3%

The only 3 games charting, there are no Wii U only charts on the site yet.
1- Nintendo Land* (rumored to be 26k on here)
2- New Super Mario Bros U
3- ZombiU*

*including hardware bundles.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on December 03, 2012, 06:43:19 AM
Oh shit that's a disaster. Who saw this coming.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: archie4208 on December 03, 2012, 06:47:56 AM
I'm sure we can add a few dozen sales if digital downloads are included.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on December 03, 2012, 06:50:50 AM
Has anyone used the DD defense on GAF?  :lol

I thought 12 year olds didn't have CC's.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: maxy on December 03, 2012, 06:51:06 AM
welcome back Oscar
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: pilonv1 on December 03, 2012, 06:58:58 AM
Quote from: archie4208 on December 03, 2012, 06:47:56 AM
I'm sure we can add a few dozen sales if digital downloads are included.

And with digital pricing being full price with no discounting, I'm sure everyone was running to download their Wii U titles.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on December 03, 2012, 07:01:03 AM
Id be surprised if they sold 1k titles online.

WB Oscar , happy your son is ok!:)
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on December 03, 2012, 07:06:07 AM
Blops and Ass Creed 3 sold 2500 in total it seems. On 40k consoles. That's dramatic, will Activision/Ubi even bother porting games?

And sure you can add 50%, if this was PC, on WiiU I think the online sales are non-exsistant (just a hunch).
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on December 03, 2012, 07:11:01 AM
Oscar, is this new gen already proving fun or what? I know Im enjoying myself.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: originalz on December 03, 2012, 07:13:13 AM
Yo Oscar if there anything we in Japan can do to help you through your shit let us know, we got your back!
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on December 03, 2012, 07:19:28 AM
Guys, FYI, Dreamcast had a better launch then WiiU. And it launched in Septmeber in the US.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: maxy on December 03, 2012, 07:33:51 AM
WiiU launched on Friday,Chart-Track tracking period is Sunday-Saturday so we have two days of sales.

In those two days "DD people" had to download and install 1GB system update(for some that has taken hours) and then download games like Ass Creed 3(17GB) for £54.99.

...
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Takao on December 03, 2012, 07:46:18 AM
Vita had a better launch in the UK than Wii U.  :rofl
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: DCharlieJP on December 03, 2012, 08:46:13 AM
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Blops and Ass Creed 3 sold 2500 in total it seems. On 40k consoles. That's dramatic, will Activision/Ubi even bother porting games?

Are you kidding? They're going to be doing even more work to down port from next gen. Which the wiiU is way more suited for. Got to get those tiny sales!

All that is left is for this thing to bomb in Japan - even funnier is the second phase games aren't going to raise those numbers either : pikmin 3 will appeal to the fans, but w101? Bayonets? ... Oh and US Monster Hunter which will do ok
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on December 03, 2012, 09:06:04 AM
The official Wii U theme song:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17lkdqoLt44
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Tasty on December 03, 2012, 10:15:09 AM
What was the percent of AC 3DS digital sales? Something like 1/4?
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Tasty on December 03, 2012, 10:19:06 AM
In any case Nintendo clearly has a lot of work to do with the Wii U, which I like as a consumer.

I've been saying since E3 2011 that they need to show more first party games, which still hasn't happened yet for who knows what reason. And I don't mean just old stuff either, some new IPs would be nice. Otherwise Miyamoto's deck shuffle really won't mean much.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Takao on December 03, 2012, 10:24:23 AM
Maybe them wasting 10 years on Gamecube hardware made them ignorant to the requirements of HD development, and now they're struggling to cope with making both Wii U and 3DS games.
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Post by: Eel O'Brian on December 03, 2012, 10:24:30 AM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on December 03, 2012, 07:05:33 AM
and thanks for well wishes and welcome backs, i hope my son will be alright, but we've still got a ways ahead of us even though he's out of the hospital now.

good luck, hoping for a speedy full recovery and better times for you and your family soon
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Great Rumbler on December 03, 2012, 10:26:24 AM
This just emphasizes how badly Nintendo has bungled the Wii U. Lack of compelling, unique software, hardware that's barely more powerful than consoles seven years old [if it actually IS more powerful], and an online infrastructure that would have been laughed at five years ago. Two of those CAN be fixed, but what has Nintendo shown you in the past decade that would lead you to believe that will suddenly launch a competent, competitive online system within the next year?

Nintendo deserves any and all failures the Wii U achieves, for thinking that it was okay to launch a system that undercooked.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on December 03, 2012, 10:29:44 AM
Quote from: Takao on December 03, 2012, 10:24:23 AM
Maybe them wasting 10 years on Gamecube hardware made them ignorant to the requirements of HD development, and now they're struggling to cope with making both Wii U and 3DS games.

Nintendo is just being cheap and lazy.  In the past, they generally got a free pass if they put out a mediocre game or mediocre hardware but it seems like those days are over.  They aimed way too low and couldn't even get that right.

Since Nintendo is so cheap and lazy that these numerous problems are going to take forever to solve if they think they need solving.  Nintendo just thinks that having the Nintendo logo slapped on crapass hardware is good enough.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Eel O'Brian on December 03, 2012, 10:29:56 AM
I still think a huge problem for them is that a lot of people have no idea what the fuck it even is. At a glance it looks like a $300 peripheral for the Wii.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Tasty on December 03, 2012, 10:35:49 AM
Should have been a standalone tablet with a HDMI dongle, yo. Would be flying off shelves.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Eel O'Brian on December 03, 2012, 10:42:30 AM
Well, they do have a perception problem amongst people who don't keep up with this kind of stuff. I've heard variations on "Do you hook it up to the Wii?" quite a bit IRL, the latest from that lady at Gamestop the day after Black Friday.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on December 03, 2012, 10:46:00 AM
Quote from: Eel O'Brian on December 03, 2012, 10:29:56 AM
I still think a huge problem for them is that a lot of people have no idea what the fuck it even is. At a glance it looks like a $300 peripheral for the Wii.

I think the bigger problem is that even if people don't know what it is, they don't want it.  Nothing out there is really compelling that isn't on the 360 or PS3, especially if there isn't a significant upgrade in visuals.  Even in the early 360 days when a lot of early games were PS2+ at best, you could tell that there was a difference in quality to a noticeable degree.  With the Wii U, the visuals are on par or worse.  I guess all that is out there is NSMBU, which I'm sure over the next 4-5 years will accumulate an ungodly total amount of sales but I don't think that is enough to get people to want to buy a Wii U right away for it, considering how it looks close to NSMB Wii.  ZombiU is this generation's Red Steel so it isn't worth acknowledging.

I hope Nintendo is working their asses off making Mario Galaxy quality software for this thing.  I suspect they aren't, thinking that pumping out half assed wares that try to recapture the blue ocean will still net them the kind of sales they received on the Wii and DS heyday.  I can't wait to see what desperate attempt to grab the brass ring they will try but I'm sure we'll find out at the next E3!
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Eel O'Brian on December 03, 2012, 12:15:30 PM
since it is the holidays they probably should have offered some more bundles right out of the gate, made some publisher deals to get COD, AssCreed 3, and Zombi U pack-ins
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Tasty on December 03, 2012, 12:18:03 PM
Quote from: The Experiment on December 03, 2012, 10:46:00 AM
I think the bigger problem is that even if people don't know what it is, they don't want it.  Nothing out there is really compelling that isn't on the 360 or PS3, especially if there isn't a significant upgrade in visuals.  Even in the early 360 days when a lot of early games were PS2+ at best, you could tell that there was a difference in quality to a noticeable degree.  With the Wii U, the visuals are on par or worse.

Nah, that's not "the bigger problem." Specs aren't THE problem it isn't selling. THE problem is that the tablet controller isn't as big of a draw to casuals as motion controls were; or, if it is, it isn't catching on due to a combination of games that demonstrate it well and adequate marketing. Probably both.

Specs are a problem when it comes to third parties, but only really in the future with the next Sony and MS consoles. Right now it's an OK platform to port to, but straight ports will suffer because of the weak CPU (in particular, taking advantage of the DSP to move audio decoding off the CPU is likely something that will be missed by many straight ports, even though it can help out a bit for some genres.)

Quote from: The Experiment on December 03, 2012, 10:46:00 AM
ZombiU is this generation's Red Steel so it isn't worth acknowledging.

I really thoroughly enjoyed the ZombiU review meltdowns on GAF but taking the game in for what it is (I haven't bought it and don't plan to until it drops in price), it's clearly better than Red Steel. There was literally nothing redeemable about Red Steel, it coasted on the newness of motion controls plus FPS. But the graphics were a letdown even then (Ubi should have been sued for those GI bullshots, seriously), the gunplay was awkward after the novelty wore off, the enemies were bullet sponges, the missions uninteresting, the story generic, etc. etc.

At least there is one thing I can say I like about ZombiU: the whole "if you die you become a zombie then you have to kill yourself to get your stuff back, otherwise you're FUBAR'd" thing. That's a potentially good gameplay idea and wouldn't be out of place in Ye Olde Survival Horrors before they went all macho charismo.

Quote from: The Experiment on December 03, 2012, 10:46:00 AM
I hope Nintendo is working their asses off making Mario Galaxy quality software for this thing.  I suspect they aren't, thinking that pumping out half assed wares that try to recapture the blue ocean will still net them the kind of sales they received on the Wii and DS heyday. I can't wait to see what desperate attempt to grab the brass ring they will try but I'm sure we'll find out at the next E3!

:lol I wish I could get away with saying this kind of thing about Sony.

"Yeah I'm ABSOLUTELY POSITIVE Sony is going to make absolute shit for Vita and PS4 just because, uh, my gut tells me so. They're totally gonna flop! (Even more so, in the Vita's case.)" :lol

Absurd.
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Post by: Cerveza mas fina on December 03, 2012, 12:23:03 PM
Nintendo has devalueated their brand and IP's.

They used to be the Disney of gaming, their shit was groundbreaking for the last time on the N64. Mario 64 and OOT, Mario Kart 64...

The GCN was already an me too console, they missed out on the whole online thing, games like Mario Kart and F Zero were made for online. This was the first console where their first party efforts became less then groundbreaking, Mario, Zelda, all were good but not OMG (Metroid is an exception?).

With the Wii they really drove their brand into the shovelware territory. Except for Mario Galaxy which I haven't played Nintendo has become synonymous with cheap to make casual games and half assed efforts.

Now with the WiiU out this is going to hurt them bad, I can even see Nintendo fans playing the waiting game now until Nintendo steps up and releases something good.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Tasty on December 03, 2012, 12:26:13 PM
I've heard good things from the unusual suspects about Kid Icarus and Xenoblade, but I guess they're just casual shovelware.
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Post by: Sho Nuff on December 03, 2012, 12:33:43 PM
Don't worry, with the Japan launch they'll be sure to break lifetime sales of the Virtual Boy (770,000)
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: bachikarn on December 03, 2012, 12:49:33 PM
Quote from: Andrex on December 03, 2012, 10:35:49 AM
Should have been a standalone tablet with a HDMI dongle, yo. Would be flying off shelves.

I'm sure this was their long term plan that would converge their console and portable brands, but I doubt the tech is ready unless they were going to have gamecube era graphics.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Steve Contra on December 03, 2012, 12:56:14 PM
I can remember when the Wii launched every single family member/friend/casual aquaintance was asking me all about it because I'm the "video game guy".  This time?  About as many people that mentioned the Vita.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: maxy on December 03, 2012, 12:57:56 PM
WiiU software

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1. Nintendo Land (Nintendo) - 25,709
2. New Super Mario Bros U (Nintendo)
3. Zombi U (Ubisoft)
4. Sonic & All Stars Racing Transformed (Sega)
5. Batman: Arkham City – Armoured Edition (Warner Bros)
6. Call of Duty: Black Ops II (Activision) - 2,000
7. Sports Connection (Ubisoft)
8. Assassin’s Creed III (Ubisoft)
9. Just Dance 4 (Ubisoft)
10. Tekken Tag Tournament 2 (Namco Bandai)
11. Rabbids Land (Ubisoft)
12. Epic Mickey 2: The Power of Two (Disney)
13. Tank! Tank! Tank! (Namco Bandai)
14. FIFA 13 (EA)
15. Darksiders II (THQ)
16. Family Party: 30 Games Obstacle Arcade (Namco Bandai)
17. Mass Effect 3 (EA)
18. Ben 10: Omniverse (Namco Bandai)
19. Skylanders Giants (Activision)
20. Game Party Champions (Warner Bros)

Last 5 are in microscopic area
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: tiesto on December 03, 2012, 01:00:12 PM
Ahh, Andrex seems to have gone back to stanning for Nintendo a bit more.. good to see, it just didn't feel "right" when he was pissed and complaining about them.

Honestly, WiiU sounds awful in its implementation, but I still prefer Nintendo's first party games waaaaay more than the other 2. I know that the Monolith title will be amazing when it comes out, at the very least. So I will be getting one eventually.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Tasty on December 03, 2012, 01:04:54 PM
Quote from: bachikarn on December 03, 2012, 12:49:33 PM
Quote from: Andrex on December 03, 2012, 10:35:49 AM
Should have been a standalone tablet with a HDMI dongle, yo. Would be flying off shelves.

I'm sure this was their long term plan that would converge their console and portable brands, but I doubt the tech is ready unless they were going to have gamecube era graphics.

High end ARM chipsets can do some decent graphics, low poly but nice effects and good RAM ensures good textures. But the audience that would buy it wouldn't really care about that; what they would care about is the battery life, which ARM can do really well.

Maybe next gen. I only really see it becoming an option if Nintendo can't sustain both 3DS and Wii U simultaneously, which is looking more realistic as time goes on.

Quote from: tiesto on December 03, 2012, 01:00:12 PM
Ahh, Andrex seems to have gone back to stanning for Nintendo a bit more.. good to see, it just didn't feel "right" when he was pissed and complaining about them.

Honestly, WiiU sounds awful in its implementation, but I still prefer Nintendo's first party games waaaaay more than the other 2. I know that the Monolith title will be amazing when it comes out, at the very least. So I will be getting one eventually.

I stand out for being positive here because of, well, this place not really caring much for Nintendo's stuff. But if you see me on GAF I'll probably be ribbing Nintendo fans more than anyone.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: ToxicAdam on December 03, 2012, 01:06:40 PM
My god, there are so much Skylanders Giants shit out there. I even saw an entire endcap of it at my grocery store.

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Post by: Tasty on December 03, 2012, 01:07:13 PM
Quote from: maxy on December 03, 2012, 12:57:56 PM
WiiU software

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1. Nintendo Land (Nintendo) - 25,709
2. New Super Mario Bros U (Nintendo)
3. Zombi U (Ubisoft)
4. Sonic & All Stars Racing Transformed (Sega)
5. Batman: Arkham City – Armoured Edition (Warner Bros)
6. Call of Duty: Black Ops II (Activision) - 2,000
7. Sports Connection (Ubisoft)
8. Assassin’s Creed III (Ubisoft)
9. Just Dance 4 (Ubisoft)
10. Tekken Tag Tournament 2 (Namco Bandai)
11. Rabbids Land (Ubisoft)
12. Epic Mickey 2: The Power of Two (Disney)
13. Tank! Tank! Tank! (Namco Bandai)
14. FIFA 13 (EA)
15. Darksiders II (THQ)
16. Family Party: 30 Games Obstacle Arcade (Namco Bandai)
17. Mass Effect 3 (EA)
18. Ben 10: Omniverse (Namco Bandai)
19. Skylanders Giants (Activision)
20. Game Party Champions (Warner Bros)

Last 5 are in microscopic area

Tank Tank Tank does not deserve to be that high.
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Post by: Flannel Boy on December 03, 2012, 01:35:06 PM
Quote from: Andrex on December 03, 2012, 01:07:13 PM
Quote from: maxy on December 03, 2012, 12:57:56 PM
WiiU software

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1. Nintendo Land (Nintendo) - 25,709
2. New Super Mario Bros U (Nintendo)
3. Zombi U (Ubisoft)
4. Sonic & All Stars Racing Transformed (Sega)
5. Batman: Arkham City – Armoured Edition (Warner Bros)
6. Call of Duty: Black Ops II (Activision) - 2,000
7. Sports Connection (Ubisoft)
8. Assassin’s Creed III (Ubisoft)
9. Just Dance 4 (Ubisoft)
10. Tekken Tag Tournament 2 (Namco Bandai)
11. Rabbids Land (Ubisoft)
12. Epic Mickey 2: The Power of Two (Disney)
13. Tank! Tank! Tank! (Namco Bandai)
14. FIFA 13 (EA)
15. Darksiders II (THQ)
16. Family Party: 30 Games Obstacle Arcade (Namco Bandai)
17. Mass Effect 3 (EA)
18. Ben 10: Omniverse (Namco Bandai)
19. Skylanders Giants (Activision)
20. Game Party Champions (Warner Bros)

Last 5 are in microscopic area

Tank Tank Tank does not deserve to be that high.

The entire list is tank tank tanking.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Purple Filth on December 03, 2012, 01:59:37 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on December 03, 2012, 07:05:33 AM
and thanks for well wishes and welcome backs, i hope my son will be alright, but we've still got a ways ahead of us even though he's out of the hospital now.

one again good luck man.

Quote from: Takao on December 03, 2012, 07:46:18 AM
Vita had a better launch in the UK than Wii U.  :rofl

This is fucking damning if thats really the case, DAMNING
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Sho Nuff on December 03, 2012, 02:13:35 PM
Quote from: maxy on December 03, 2012, 12:57:56 PM
WiiU software

Quote
1. Nintendo Land (Nintendo) - 25,709
2. New Super Mario Bros U (Nintendo)
3. Zombi U (Ubisoft)
4. Sonic & All Stars Racing Transformed (Sega)
5. Batman: Arkham City – Armoured Edition (Warner Bros)
6. Call of Duty: Black Ops II (Activision) - 2,000
7. Sports Connection (Ubisoft)
8. Assassin’s Creed III (Ubisoft)
9. Just Dance 4 (Ubisoft)
10. Tekken Tag Tournament 2 (Namco Bandai)
11. Rabbids Land (Ubisoft)
12. Epic Mickey 2: The Power of Two (Disney)
13. Tank! Tank! Tank! (Namco Bandai)
14. FIFA 13 (EA)
15. Darksiders II (THQ)
16. Family Party: 30 Games Obstacle Arcade (Namco Bandai)
17. Mass Effect 3 (EA)
18. Ben 10: Omniverse (Namco Bandai)
19. Skylanders Giants (Activision)
20. Game Party Champions (Warner Bros)

Last 5 are in microscopic area

Are these UK sales? These sales can't be US sales.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Takao on December 03, 2012, 02:13:57 PM
Quote from: Purple Filth on December 03, 2012, 01:59:37 PM
Quote from: Takao on December 03, 2012, 07:46:18 AM
Vita had a better launch in the UK than Wii U.  :rofl

This is fucking damning if thats really the case, DAMNING

It's true. Vita sold more than it in the UK during their respective first weeks despite Vita coming out in February vs. holiday shopping season, and being well, Vita.  :lol

Nintendo said they "sold out" but the people living in the UK are saying that's not the case.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Eel O'Brian on December 03, 2012, 02:14:47 PM
16. Family Party: 30 Games Obstacle Arcade (Namco Bandai)
17. Mass Effect 3 (EA)

You reap what you sow, Ninfans
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Great Rumbler on December 03, 2012, 02:15:35 PM
Quote from: Sho Nuff on December 03, 2012, 02:13:35 PM
Are these UK sales? These sales can't be US sales.

Yeah, those numbers are from the UK launch.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Himu on December 03, 2012, 02:16:53 PM
Ahahahahha

Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: maxy on December 03, 2012, 02:17:27 PM
Quote from: Borys on December 03, 2012, 02:03:09 PM
Quote from: maxy on December 03, 2012, 12:57:56 PM
WiiU software

Quote
1. Nintendo Land (Nintendo) - 25,709
2. New Super Mario Bros U (Nintendo)
3. Zombi U (Ubisoft)
4. Sonic & All Stars Racing Transformed (Sega)
5. Batman: Arkham City – Armoured Edition (Warner Bros)
6. Call of Duty: Black Ops II (Activision) - 2,000
7. Sports Connection (Ubisoft)
8. Assassin’s Creed III (Ubisoft)
9. Just Dance 4 (Ubisoft)
10. Tekken Tag Tournament 2 (Namco Bandai)
11. Rabbids Land (Ubisoft)
12. Epic Mickey 2: The Power of Two (Disney)
13. Tank! Tank! Tank! (Namco Bandai)
14. FIFA 13 (EA)
15. Darksiders II (THQ)
16. Family Party: 30 Games Obstacle Arcade (Namco Bandai)
17. Mass Effect 3 (EA)
18. Ben 10: Omniverse (Namco Bandai)
19. Skylanders Giants (Activision)
20. Game Party Champions (Warner Bros)

Last 5 are in microscopic area

If COD @ 6th place is 2k then what is Ben 10 @ 18th place?

Microscopic sales---someone with GFK data access.

Quote
Are these UK sales? These sales can't be US sales.

UK.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Eel O'Brian on December 03, 2012, 02:17:46 PM
basically, across the spectrum it looks like nintendo-system-only gamers aren't really buying the types of games they were crying about not getting during the previous generation
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Takao on December 03, 2012, 02:19:36 PM
Quote from: Eel O'Brian on December 03, 2012, 02:14:47 PM
16. Family Party: 30 Games Obstacle Arcade (Namco Bandai)
17. Mass Effect 3 (EA)

You reap what you sow, Ninfans

To be fair, that low down the chart might be a single unit difference.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Great Rumbler on December 03, 2012, 02:20:26 PM
Quote from: Eel O'Brian on December 03, 2012, 02:17:46 PM
basically, across the spectrum it looks like nintendo-system-only gamers aren't really buying the types of games they were crying about not getting during the previous generation

I complained about Nintendo systems not getting that kind of third-part support at one time myself, but you know what I did to rectify that problem? I bought the system that had all those games I wanted.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Eel O'Brian on December 03, 2012, 02:24:19 PM
Well, you play games, not message boards. Looks like a lot of Nintendo fans just wanted those games as bullet points for forum debates, not to actually buy and play.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Himu on December 03, 2012, 02:27:36 PM
Quote from: Great Rumbler on December 03, 2012, 02:20:26 PM
Quote from: Eel O'Brian on December 03, 2012, 02:17:46 PM
basically, across the spectrum it looks like nintendo-system-only gamers aren't really buying the types of games they were crying about not getting during the previous generation

I complained about Nintendo systems not getting that kind of third-part support at one time myself, but you know what I did to rectify that problem? I bought the system that had all those games I wanted.

But Miyamoto-sama will be angry with me if I do that.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Great Rumbler on December 03, 2012, 02:42:27 PM
Quote from: Eel O'Brian on December 03, 2012, 02:24:19 PM
Well, you play games, not message boards. Looks like a lot of Nintendo fans just wanted those games as bullet points for forum debates, not to actually buy and play.

Depressingly true, unfortunately. It's not about playing the games and having fun, it's about scoring another point for your "team."
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Himu on December 03, 2012, 02:53:49 PM
Quote from: The Experiment on December 03, 2012, 09:06:04 AM
The official Wii U theme song:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17lkdqoLt44

Best post on page.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Great Rumbler on December 03, 2012, 03:21:16 PM
You dropped a bomb on me, Shiggy.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Sho Nuff on December 03, 2012, 03:22:29 PM
I am amazed that Tank Tank Tank outsold ANYTHING  :lol
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Himu on December 03, 2012, 03:24:54 PM
When they came out dancing once I saw his post and clicked the embed, I fucking lost it. I've never seen the music video but the song is a classic.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: maxy on December 03, 2012, 03:57:10 PM
Quote from: Andrex on December 03, 2012, 12:18:03 PM

Specs are a problem when it comes to third parties, but only really in the future with the next Sony and MS consoles.

I disagree,specs are a problem right now.This gen has lasted way too long and releasing something  comparable to current systems = suicide.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Great Rumbler on December 03, 2012, 04:01:56 PM
The hardcore base wants more power and the Wii U definitely does not fit that bill. Meaning that they don't feel any great need to by this system, regardless of how many poorly-optimised ports of Xbox360 and PS3 games it gets.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on December 03, 2012, 04:25:15 PM
Nintendo never wanted to go after core gamers with the WiiU with those specs, they just say they do to trick ninthings on the fence into being ambassadors.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: bachikarn on December 03, 2012, 04:47:11 PM
Specs don't matter to the casuals, but I'm not sure they really care about Nintendo's "tablet" either. A system with good specs had a chance of actually getting back some of the "core" or dudebro gamers that the x360 has a monopoly of.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Mr. Gundam on December 03, 2012, 04:52:05 PM
Quote from: Sho Nuff on December 03, 2012, 03:22:29 PM
I am amazed that Tank Tank Tank outsold ANYTHING  :lol

WiiU exclusive, brah.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on December 03, 2012, 05:26:42 PM
You know what would be funny? If nintendo finally announced some games at e3 but then ended up being completely overshadowed by sony and ms next gen stuff.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Tasty on December 03, 2012, 05:58:50 PM
Quote from: maxy on December 03, 2012, 03:57:10 PM
Quote from: Andrex on December 03, 2012, 12:18:03 PM

Specs are a problem when it comes to third parties, but only really in the future with the next Sony and MS consoles.

I disagree,specs are a problem right now.This gen has lasted way too long and releasing something  comparable to current systems = suicide.

Worked for Wii, which was my point. Specs aren't THE problem.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Tasty on December 03, 2012, 05:59:18 PM
Quote from: bachikarn on December 03, 2012, 04:47:11 PM
Specs don't matter to the casuals, but I'm not sure they really care about Nintendo's "tablet" either. A system with good specs had a chance of actually getting back some of the "core" or dudebro gamers that the x360 has a monopoly of.

Very unlikely.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: bachikarn on December 03, 2012, 06:51:34 PM
So why did Nintendo even bother with x360 level specs? Why not literally just do Wii graphics but in HD? Clearly specs mean something.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Takao on December 03, 2012, 07:18:48 PM
Because if they did that the thing would crater in Japan as no one would want to buy a home console 3DS in 2012.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Steve Contra on December 03, 2012, 08:14:34 PM
So specs do matter.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: AdmiralViscen on December 03, 2012, 09:43:20 PM
I'm a longtime multiplatform owner and Nintendo lover who got burned by the Wii and is skipping the Wii U. I have every Nintendo console currently hooked up in my house with the exception of the Virtual Boy.

I used to not mind buying half assed Nintendo hardware when it was dirt cheap and who cares, but I feel like the Wii U is such a bad value I cannot support it with my dollars.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Bebpo on December 03, 2012, 10:03:34 PM
Wii U is the first system I haven't bought at launch since like PS1 era.  That might just be because I'm older and games are less important to me, but I think it's actually because the Wii was quite an awful system outside a handful of games and I don't even keep one in my house anymore (all lent out to families that might use them).

Now I may eventually have to get one for Bayo 2.  But maybe by then there will be some good deals to pick it up and any other good games its had for cheap.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: AdmiralViscen on December 03, 2012, 10:05:43 PM
I'd get one for $199 just for Mario. But even then I'd have to buy fucking motion plus controllers to really play it.

I used to buy every Nintendo thing just for Zelda, but SS kinda sucked and all the handheld ones have too for a long time. And Metroid and Fzero are dead.... fuck Pikmin... Sooo
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: pilonv1 on December 03, 2012, 10:26:11 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on December 03, 2012, 09:34:29 PM
Who the fuck is the WiiU for? 

The small number of Nintendo fans who didn't buy a PS3/360.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Positive Touch on December 03, 2012, 10:38:18 PM
this is why i wanna kick all the nerds in the ass who claim that sales are flagging because the generation has gone on too long. people arent holding on to wads of cash saying "well, i could just wait a little longer for the next big thing..." they're going out right now and buying the shit out of 360s and ps3s because they have shitloads of great games that people have played/heard about, and theyre finally at a price level that most people can afford (both the system and used games). people with money to blow want to spend it on new phones and tablets, not a $400+ system that offers an interface with some new upgrades and games that cost no less than $60. a new system that offers a new, more convenient take on interconnectivity (as opposed to the weeoo's fishcer-price attempt) will succeed; a marginal upgrade to what we have now will bomb.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Huff on December 03, 2012, 11:15:52 PM
i heard nintendo can do anything with a firmware update
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Takao on December 03, 2012, 11:17:48 PM
yeah all the parts have just been underclocked

spoiler (click to show/hide)
more like undercooked :drake
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Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Eel O'Brian on December 03, 2012, 11:20:50 PM
It doesn't even get hot enough for the exhaust vents to dry your tears :(
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: pilonv1 on December 03, 2012, 11:35:44 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on December 03, 2012, 11:11:52 PM
2) people are sufficiently satisfied gaming on their smartphones/tablets and are not as interested in a game box anymore.

It's a combination this, because "people" not "gamers" are who lapped up the Wii last time, and that smartphones/tables offer better value gaming for them. Gamers will still pay a premium for a perceived premium product. Regular people have seen Angry Birds for 99c and can't see why they should spend $30 on a handheld game or $60 on a console game. There's no stopping this contracting, people have moved on from home consoles/handhelds.

Quote from: Eel O'Brian on December 03, 2012, 11:20:50 PM
It doesn't even get hot enough for the exhaust vents to dry your tears :(

:rofl I can imagine this being said on a cruncheons ep
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Stoney Mason on December 03, 2012, 11:36:03 PM
The Vita was pretty easy to forecast ahead of time as a flop especially in this country. That sort of device is completely out of step with American culture.

As far as the Wii U I still think it will do decently with families and young kids but it's clear the device is forever the product of the 6 to 14 year old market in America. It just doesn't look like Nintendo will be able to gimmick their way to another Wii level fad this go around.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: AdmiralViscen on December 03, 2012, 11:37:34 PM
At least the next real consoles will have multimedia functionality to give people a reason to buy it. Nintendo doesn't have shit. Not even virtual console for retro novelty

Quote from: Eel O'Brian on December 03, 2012, 11:20:50 PM
It doesn't even get hot enough for the exhaust vents to dry your tears :(

 :lol
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: bachikarn on December 04, 2012, 12:33:50 AM
They have TVii
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Tasty on December 04, 2012, 01:13:23 AM
They should fire every single person involved in Wii U's conception, release, and marketing and hire back whoever the hell did this (cause it sure as hell isn't whoever's currently there):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BEKCetCeibs

THIS is how you get people excited for a console with only like, two announced games, no specs, no online talk. This is how you make waves. Not whatever the hell this is:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7dbGJieRaH0
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Bebpo on December 04, 2012, 01:29:00 AM
If they call the PS4 anything other than the PS4 in western countries it's going to be just as fucked as the Vita.  The PS brand is still pretty strong even if it's lost a lot of ground to Xbox.  People will buy a PS4 and get excited for it.  They're going to go "Wtf is an Orbis" if something like that is the name.  If they're seriously worried about the 4 = shi thing in Japan (which is pretty stupid since there are plenty of major franchises in Japan that go to 4; plus they can market it around "PLAYSTATION FO" in the ads) then change the name just for that region.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: maxy on December 04, 2012, 05:54:36 AM
aegies post
Quote
I've spent the last year talking to publishers and developers off the record. They've been waiting for Durango in particular. There are things they want to do that they haven't been able to pull off, and many feel that the shrinkage in the market is due to hardware stagnation. The big guys and popular developers that haven't already gone iOS are hitching their wagons to Durango in a big, big way. Which terrifies them, by the way. They are not in any way sure that it's going to turn things around, business wise.

I'm not saying the next Playstation isn't part of the equation, but they've seemed much less clear as to what it will even be. Granted, I haven't talked to everyone, obviously.

Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on December 04, 2012, 07:01:31 AM
Who is Aegies?
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Joe Molotov on December 04, 2012, 09:13:20 AM
Quote from: The Wrath Of Drugula on December 04, 2012, 01:10:37 AM
What was TVii supposed to be again? Cause you'd think Netflix or Hulu would suffice when it comes to TV shows and movies.

I think TVii is Netflix and Hulu.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on December 04, 2012, 09:34:08 AM
Wii U will make it just off of the strength of existing Nintendo IPs.  The Gamecube was like that too.  I'm still standing behind my prediction of 30-35 million units sold.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on December 04, 2012, 01:21:36 PM
Quote from: The Experiment on December 04, 2012, 09:34:08 AM
Wii U will make it just off of the strength of existing Nintendo IPs.  The Gamecube was like that too.  I'm still standing behind my prediction of 30-35 million units sold.

Except Nintendo doesn't make em as good as they used to imho. Wii was a step down from GCN which was a step down from N64 which was...
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Momo on December 04, 2012, 01:33:36 PM
Quote from: Premium Lager on December 04, 2012, 07:01:31 AM
Who is Aegies?
polygon, powered by Internet Explorer.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Brehvolution on December 04, 2012, 02:57:52 PM
Quote from: pilonv1 on December 03, 2012, 11:35:44 PM

Quote from: Eel O'Brian on December 03, 2012, 11:20:50 PM
It doesn't even get hot enough for the exhaust vents to dry your tears :(

:rofl I can imagine this being said on a cruncheons ep

Speaking of, where is my gotdamn Cruncheons ffs?
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Mr. Gundam on December 04, 2012, 03:09:56 PM
Quote from: Premium Lager on December 04, 2012, 01:21:36 PM
Quote from: The Experiment on December 04, 2012, 09:34:08 AM
Wii U will make it just off of the strength of existing Nintendo IPs.  The Gamecube was like that too.  I'm still standing behind my prediction of 30-35 million units sold.

Except Nintendo doesn't make em as good as they used to imho. Wii was a step down from GCN which was a step down from N64 which was...

I've never understood the love for the N64. That thing was a gigantic piece of shit. The Gamecube is so much better.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Steve Youngblood on December 04, 2012, 03:14:38 PM
Quote from: Mr. Gundam on December 04, 2012, 03:09:56 PM
I've never understood the love for the N64. That thing was a gigantic piece of shit. The Gamecube is so much better.

I think it comes down to two things:

1.) For some of us, that was the definitive local multiplayer experience. At no stage after that was it as easy to sit around and enjoy stuff the way I remember Goldeneye and the AKI wrestling games, for instance.

2.) Some of the first party stuff was more memorable. Super Mario 64, Ocarina of Time, Star Fox, Mario Kart 64, and more stick out a little more than the Gamecube equivalents.

Mind you, both of the above probably amount more to nostalgia than an earnest assessment of the quality of the machines or libraries.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Fifstar on December 04, 2012, 03:14:57 PM
Quote from: The Experiment on December 04, 2012, 09:34:08 AM
Wii U will make it just off of the strength of existing Nintendo IPs.  The Gamecube was like that too.  I'm still standing behind my prediction of 30-35 million units sold.

My estimations are in the same Bracket, although I'm a bit less confident about them after the mess that this launch seems to be.

They don't really have a target audience besides the Nintendo faithful and kids/families. I believe they have lost some of their core fans during the last years due to the low powered Wii&Wii U and because they've overused their key franchises and neglected their smaller franchises. On the other hand, their huge success during last generation should give them some additional mindshare with the family crowd, so it might even out to sales somewhat above gamecube. Hardcore, multiplayer and bro crowd obviously won't be interested.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Tasty on December 04, 2012, 03:55:02 PM
Quote from: Mr. Gundam on December 04, 2012, 03:09:56 PM
Quote from: Premium Lager on December 04, 2012, 01:21:36 PM
Quote from: The Experiment on December 04, 2012, 09:34:08 AM
Wii U will make it just off of the strength of existing Nintendo IPs.  The Gamecube was like that too.  I'm still standing behind my prediction of 30-35 million units sold.

Except Nintendo doesn't make em as good as they used to imho. Wii was a step down from GCN which was a step down from N64 which was...

I've never understood the love for the N64. That thing was a gigantic piece of shit. The Gamecube is so much better.

Probably my least favorite Nintendo console. Lame controller and a huge step down from SNES.

At least there was Smash though, that game was ace.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: ToxicAdam on December 04, 2012, 04:01:00 PM
N64 had four games that were essential to play (for their time). OoT, Mario 64, GoldenEye and WCW Revenge. I was a Sony dude, but those four games were better than anything on the PS1.

I kind of cheated though. I would buy the console before Christmas every year, play the shit out of it during the holiday break and then return it after Christmas and get my money back. In those 2-3 weeks I was able to rent/beat about every N64 game worth owning. My opinion of that system might be different if I actually owned the thing for 4-5 years.

Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Mr. Gundam on December 04, 2012, 04:23:30 PM
The controller was absolutely terrible. I remember playing Goldeneye at a buddy's house once and thinking "This is it? This is what everyone is freaking out over?" At this point in my life I was a PC only player (sat out the PS1/SAT/N64 gen for the most part before getting back into console gaming with the Dreamcast) so I was used to more polished FPS games.

spoiler (click to show/hide)
I did love and play the shit out of Ocarina of Time on my PC with an N64 emulator.  8)
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Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on December 04, 2012, 04:31:45 PM
Uuh Mario Kart 64, Pilotwings, Diddy Kong Racing, Banjo Kazooie, Blast Corps, Majporas Mask, F zero?

I def place the n64 above cube cause every n game pn it was better
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: tiesto on December 04, 2012, 04:34:56 PM
Quote from: Mr. Gundam on December 04, 2012, 03:09:56 PM
Quote from: Premium Lager on December 04, 2012, 01:21:36 PM
Quote from: The Experiment on December 04, 2012, 09:34:08 AM
Wii U will make it just off of the strength of existing Nintendo IPs.  The Gamecube was like that too.  I'm still standing behind my prediction of 30-35 million units sold.

Except Nintendo doesn't make em as good as they used to imho. Wii was a step down from GCN which was a step down from N64 which was...

I've never understood the love for the N64. That thing was a gigantic piece of shit. The Gamecube is so much better.

Ditto - blurry as hell graphics, fog everywhere, sub 15-FPS framerates, one of the worst controllers ever designed, barely any RPGs... probably my least favorite Nintendo system ever... though I do love the Treasure games on the platform (Bangai-O/Mischief Makers/Sin and Punishment) and the Zeldas... and played a shitload of original SSB before Melee.

Cube was definitely more my speed.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on December 04, 2012, 04:37:58 PM
What did Cube have exclusive wise.

F Zero GX and?
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Mr. Gundam on December 04, 2012, 04:50:19 PM
Baten Kaitos 1 and 2, REmake, Wind Waker, Tales of Symphonia, Super Robot Wars GC, Gundam Ace Pilot, Fire Emblem.

It was pretty shitty if that was the only system you owned, but it was a great 2nd console for the generation.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Steve Contra on December 04, 2012, 04:50:34 PM
Yup, N64 sucked alright.  Cube did as well if we're talking about it.  So did the Wii.  Nintendo has basically made shit consoles since the 2d era.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on December 04, 2012, 04:52:40 PM
Quote from: Mr. Gundam on December 04, 2012, 04:50:19 PM
Baten Kaitos 1 and 2, REmake, Wind Waker, Tales of Symphonia, Super Robot Wars GC, Gundam Ace Pilot, Fire Emblem.

It was pretty shitty if that was the only system you owned, but it was a great 2nd console for the generation.

If you like those kind of games then I agree (jap rpg's and such) the GCN had more of those.

I liked the N64 controller more then the GCN one too btw  :-*
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Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on December 04, 2012, 04:56:14 PM
my wal mart, granted the only one in te span of liek 2 hours still had wiius in stock. it took me 2 years to find a wii 1 up here but there they were.

$350, fuk that shite
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Post by: Great Rumbler on December 04, 2012, 05:04:23 PM
4-player local multiplayer on the N64 was utterly amazing in the late-90's. I can't hate.
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Post by: Himu on December 04, 2012, 05:05:03 PM
xbox > gamecube
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Post by: Cerveza mas fina on December 04, 2012, 05:07:53 PM
Xbox is clearly my fav that gen, Halo, Kotor, Rainbow Six Online.
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Post by: Himu on December 04, 2012, 05:12:18 PM
jsrf, panzer dragoon orta, gun valkyrie, otogi, spikeout, outrun 2, ninja gaiden black, doa2u, phantom dust, riddick, forza, crimson skies...

Fantastic system. One of my all time faves. I probably like almost as much as ps2. I mean, most noteworthy ps2 games were also available on xbox. Since 360 is bc, I've definitely played xbox games as much as ps2 games over the years. Haven't played a ps2 game since 2009/2010. Meanwhile, I cranked out SSX3 just the other day on my 360 for a quick race.
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Post by: Positive Touch on December 04, 2012, 06:13:34 PM
Quote from: Great Rumbler on December 04, 2012, 05:04:23 PM
4-player local multiplayer on the N64 was utterly amazing in the late-90's. I can't hate.

that shit was a joke if you had access to some REAL t1 gaming goodness back in the day. quake, diablo, starcraft, unreal, fuck even a c-grade fps killed whatever was going on with the n64 at the time. it was like the divide between 360 and wii, except 100x more laughable
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Post by: DCharlieJP on December 04, 2012, 06:23:56 PM
the N64 was such a weird console - it bombed so badly in the UK they had to lop 100 quid of it with in a few months. And jesus... the games were 64.99 ... in 1996 :/ you do the conversion rate on that bad boy! (except for Turok - that thing was 74.99)

Anyways - the controller was perfect for a set of games and utter shiiiiiite for everything else. It was clearly fantastic for Mario, was great for ISS64 and great for Golden Eye... but year, it hamstrung every other game pretty much.

The N64 games wise is surprisingly not the full on turd sandwich - whilst we got some truly dire 1st party efforts (fuck off, Mario Kart 64 was horrific and anyone who likes Smash Brothers needs to go play on the railway tracks) we got some hot stuff - Mario Golf (whilst the GBC version knocks it into a cocked hat) and Mario Tennis were great.

Some big hitters from 3rd parties too - ISS64 , the precursor to Winning Eleven, was amazing for the time and consumed many 2-player evenings, Goldeneye was great, Perfect Dark was a bit held back by the hardware but still good.

Then we had the more off beat stuff - Sin and Punishment (somewhat overrated but still worth a play through or two), Space Station Silicon Valley, BlastCorps, and i'm sure i'm missing a whole bunch more.

For me the N64 was a nightmare - i was into my final few months of university. I had my dissertation on interface designs to complete as well as creating the interactive CD guide for the University to go with it, and revision for the final exams....

... and fucking Mario 64 to finish.

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Post by: Steve Contra on December 04, 2012, 07:34:59 PM
Mario 64 was pretty crappy.  Probably the most overrated game this side of Animal Crossing.
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Post by: Sho Nuff on December 04, 2012, 08:08:18 PM
While the doofuses played Star Fox 64 in the other room, I was rocking faces over QUAKEWORLD. Team Fortress :punch
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Post by: demi on December 04, 2012, 08:08:51 PM
I like N64 <3

Cartridges <3
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Post by: Positive Touch on December 04, 2012, 08:11:58 PM
Quote from: Sho Nuff on December 04, 2012, 08:08:18 PM
While the doofuses played Star Fox 64 in the other room, I was rocking faces over QUAKEWORLD. Team Fortress :punch

THE ORIGINAL TEAM FORTRESS :gun
HEADHUNTERS :gun
DOWNLOADING A BUNCH OF SKINS THAT LOOK LIKE WRESTLERS AND XMEN :gun
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Post by: Great Rumbler on December 04, 2012, 08:15:19 PM
Quote from: Positive Touch on December 04, 2012, 06:13:34 PM
Quote from: Great Rumbler on December 04, 2012, 05:04:23 PM
4-player local multiplayer on the N64 was utterly amazing in the late-90's. I can't hate.

that shit was a joke if you had access to some REAL t1 gaming goodness back in the day. quake, diablo, starcraft, unreal, fuck even a c-grade fps killed whatever was going on with the n64 at the time. it was like the divide between 360 and wii, except 100x more laughable

Local multiplayer with friends sitting on the couch around the TV > Yelling at the computer screen because some faceless player on the other side of the country is totally using hacks
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Post by: Mr. Gundam on December 04, 2012, 08:16:57 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on December 04, 2012, 08:14:41 PM
so in college while other people were socializing face-to-face, you guys were shut-in in the room next door playing with internet people and sneering at them for their poor taste

there's a little gaffer in everyone, i suppose

I was actually doing LANs with friends in the same room or down the hall in the dorms. :rock
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Post by: Himu on December 04, 2012, 08:19:35 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on December 04, 2012, 08:14:41 PM
so in college while other people were socializing face-to-face, you guys were shut-in in the room next door playing with internet people and sneering at them for their poor taste

there's a little gaffer in everyone, i suppose

to be fair, lans were a huge thing in the late 90's.
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Post by: Positive Touch on December 04, 2012, 08:24:50 PM
we had internet cafes in st louis fucking county back then; im sure they had them around where you lived too. you take your nerd friends up there, meet a rival group of nerds, and game all day SOCIALLY. and no one has to degrade themselves by playing an n64.
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Post by: D3RANG3D on December 04, 2012, 08:27:33 PM
Quote from: Positive Touch on December 04, 2012, 08:24:50 PM
we had internet cafes in st louis fucking county back then; im sure they had them around where you lived too. you take your nerd friends up there, meet a rival group of nerds, and game all day SOCIALLY. and no one has to degrade themselves by playing an n64.

 :lol
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Post by: Great Rumbler on December 04, 2012, 08:31:28 PM
:bow Comfy couch gaming with friends :bow2
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Post by: cool breeze on December 04, 2012, 08:51:38 PM
N64 local co-op was amazing.  Part of it had to do with being a kid and being in an environment where you could reasonably get people together to play video games.     

Never got into Goldeneye or any shooters on the N64 (except Conker, if that counts).  I'd always play them and be like "...can't we play snowboard kids or mario party."  Solo time I was playing shooters on my PC.  First time I wanted to play a shooter on consoles was with Halo. And I put up with all those wrestling games too.  I couldn't tell the different between them.  ECW or some shit.

Quote from: DCharlieJP on December 04, 2012, 06:23:56 PM
Anyways - the controller was perfect for a set of games and utter shiiiiiite for everything else. It was clearly fantastic for Mario, was great for ISS64 and great for Golden Eye... but year, it hamstrung every other game pretty much.

I think it's telling that everyone just copied the Dual Shock and Saturn 3D controller with their next consoles.

Though, Sony never stopped copying the Dual Shock for some reason.
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Post by: AdmiralViscen on December 04, 2012, 08:54:59 PM
Jet Force Gemini
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Post by: tiesto on December 04, 2012, 08:56:56 PM
Freshman year of college for me was 1999, so I got my friends to play on the ultimate co-op console...

:bow Power Stone :bow2
:bow MVC2 :bow2
:bow Soul Calibur :bow2
:bow Virtua Tennis :bow2

Xbox 1 is probably the least favorite system I own. Apart from a few SEGA titles and fighting games that have mostly been superseded by 360 ports/sequels, there was literally nothing else for me.
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Post by: Eel O'Brian on December 04, 2012, 10:43:31 PM
My friend had a Nintendo 64 and a Doctor V64 he bought for like $250, so he had just about every N64 game. We played a lot of Army Men Sarge's Heroes, which is a shitty game, but sure is a lot of fun sniping your buds while standing on a toilet seat. We had to buy our own controllers, so I bought the cheapest piece of shit knockoff boomerang controller I could find at Wal-Mart :lol Mostly we played SNES, Genesis, and PS1 fighting games (WWF War Zone :rock) while drinking and belittling each other - ultimate victory was achieved when you got someone so pissed off they left the house.
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Post by: Himu on December 04, 2012, 10:46:00 PM
dude, i forgot army men games. remember those egm reviews of army men games? lol.
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Post by: Eel O'Brian on December 04, 2012, 10:48:37 PM
we only played sarge's heroes multiplayer - tried some of the single player and whoooooooaaaawhatabunchabullshit
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Post by: Himu on December 04, 2012, 11:02:10 PM
Played this every weekend with my friend in 1998/1999.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rAQUd1eHawE
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Post by: DCharlieJP on December 04, 2012, 11:09:49 PM
Quote from: Steve Contra on December 04, 2012, 07:34:59 PM
Mario 64 was pretty crappy.  Probably the most overrated game this side of Animal Crossing.

I think Mario 64 has been hit with an unfair backlash - i thought it was a brilliant game and i loved every second of it. #shrug

re: LANs - i had two computers - one good and one shitty, i needed the shitty one for testing the final year project. It could run Quake in a tiny window, whilst the dev computer could run it no worries. Playing that two players was pretty awesome.

It's kind of funny - i had a year in industry and one of the guys there was a pro-Doom player. He came to the house and showed me MOUSE LOOK on quake... MY WORLD, OH MY GOD, TURNED UPSIDE DOWN! :O

All this said - king game of the house? Sensible World of Soccer. 4 of us in the same league. We'd play our games whilst the other three jeered and tried to put us off and the tension when we played each other was amazing. We also had the hilarity of me owning a shit joystick and a good joystick, so we'd coin toss to see who got which stick in the event of a head-to-head. Epic gaming days.

Hell, we used to have "the drunken challenge" - everyone plays a short game vs one of the stupid teams in the game called "Crisp Flavours" - probably the worst team in the game. Players would assume control of Brazil. As we slowly consumed Mad Dog 20/20 the game was that the first player to concede a goal had to pay for the others night out. The tension was amazing. 94-96 gaming... when we had friends and shit. :(
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Post by: Great Rumbler on December 04, 2012, 11:21:53 PM
Super Mario 64 was the greatest thing ever created, according to my ten-year-old self. I can still play it just fine today, though.
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Post by: pilonv1 on December 04, 2012, 11:25:15 PM
Quote from: DCharlieJP on December 04, 2012, 11:09:49 PM
It's kind of funny - i had a year in industry and one of the guys there was a pro-Doom player. He came to the house and showed me MOUSE LOOK on quake... MY WORLD, OH MY GOD, TURNED UPSIDE DOWN! :O

I remember being a point of ridicule at my first LAN event for being a filthy keyboard Doom player :(
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Post by: D3RANG3D on December 04, 2012, 11:28:09 PM
Quote from: Formerly Known As Himuro on December 04, 2012, 11:02:10 PM
Played this every weekend with my friend in 1998/1999.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rAQUd1eHawE

N64 :bow2

GC :piss2
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Post by: Mr. Gundam on December 04, 2012, 11:39:41 PM
I don't want to think about how many hours we wasted on Counterstrike in college. :lol
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Post by: Momo on December 05, 2012, 12:09:05 AM
10 years of PSO was the biggest time sink for me, and pso2 is launching soon :'(
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Post by: Diunx on December 05, 2012, 12:12:40 AM
N64 was crap and it's library was incredibly overrated.
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Post by: Purple Filth on December 05, 2012, 12:30:08 AM
Was never really a fan of the N64 either.

the game i played and like was smash, mario kart, oot, wrestlemania 2000 (i never laughed so hard until i played that with some friends).

goldeneye was alright, perfect dark was alright

i was also never a fan of mario 64 and to be honest i still don't give a fuck about it or 3d mario in general
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Post by: DCharlieJP on December 05, 2012, 12:58:20 AM
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it was definitely crap (though i got many hours out of the wrasslin games),


i should remove those unboxed N64 US/JPN games and the region convertor from the care package or.... ?
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Post by: Momo on December 05, 2012, 01:32:53 AM
N64 was pretty poo. I struggle to think of a more poo console apart from stuff like the Atari Jaguar
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Post by: Trent Dole on December 05, 2012, 02:20:46 AM
Quote from: Momo on December 05, 2012, 12:09:05 AM
10 years of PSO was the biggest time sink for me, and pso2 is launching soon :'(
500 hours since July :-[
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Post by: Cerveza mas fina on December 05, 2012, 02:22:46 AM
Do you guys still ever play with other peeps at your/their house?

I play Fifa with friends whenever I can (this year 1 time, last year looaaads). I also play Walking Dead with my fiancee (well she watches advises).
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Post by: Mr. Gundam on December 05, 2012, 02:26:07 AM
Quote from: Premium Lager on December 05, 2012, 02:22:46 AM
Do you guys still ever play with other peeps at your/their house?

My wife and I will play Simpsons Arcade and Katamari together on the PS3 from time to time.

Rock Band still gets played with my buddies, and one friend and I do hotseat Counterstrike GO on the PS3 while drinking. And if there's a big group, we still take two OG Xbox's and do 8-player Halo 2 rocketball with 2 TV's via a link cable. That never gets old.
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Post by: Tasty on December 05, 2012, 02:29:26 AM
Quote from: DCharlieJP on December 04, 2012, 06:23:56 PM
anyone who likes Smash Brothers needs to go play on the railway tracks

You are truly irredeemable.

Quote from: Steve Contra on December 04, 2012, 07:34:59 PM
Mario 64 was pretty crappy.  Probably the most overrated game this side of Animal Crossing.

My least favorite 3D Mario. Nice for what it is, but not much beyond that.

But I want to replay it soon to see if that opinion is close to the truth.
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Post by: Cerveza mas fina on December 05, 2012, 02:35:07 AM
Did you play it at launch Andrex?

Local multi is so nice, will be nice to have a kid to play with one day and explain stuff :)
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Post by: chronovore on December 05, 2012, 02:42:55 AM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on December 04, 2012, 11:24:00 PM
Mario 64 suffers from the same thing as many influential "firsts" (including SMB1) - it was completely brilliant in its time, but is has been copied and improved upon quite a lot since, so a lot of its shine is lost now.  It's not like you can't appreciate it, but if you weren't there at the time, it's hard to get the full impact.
Yeah. When I hear people talking about the classic in any media, a classic which handled something so well, so originally, that it spawned the cliché and then they think oh that's just so clichéd, they don't understand the context. Some people just seem willingly ignorant of how hard it is to do something original, and do it well, and how simple it is to ape that success afterwords to lesser effect.
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Post by: Himu on December 05, 2012, 02:45:33 AM
I didn't like mario 64 even at launch.
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Post by: DCharlieJP on December 05, 2012, 03:13:30 AM
Quote from: Premium Lager on December 05, 2012, 02:22:46 AM
Do you guys still ever play with other peeps at your/their house?

I play Fifa with friends whenever I can (this year 1 time, last year looaaads). I also play Walking Dead with my fiancee (well she watches advises).

with the wife mainly at the house, the days of the 16 player Halo lan party is looooong gone. Peoples lives have moved on and, well, DAT INTERNET.
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Post by: DCharlieJP on December 05, 2012, 03:22:41 AM
Quote from: Andrex on December 05, 2012, 02:29:26 AM
Quote from: DCharlieJP on December 04, 2012, 06:23:56 PM
anyone who likes Smash Brothers needs to go play on the railway tracks

You are truly irredeemable.

Quote from: Steve Contra on December 04, 2012, 07:34:59 PM
Mario 64 was pretty crappy.  Probably the most overrated game this side of Animal Crossing.

My least favorite 3D Mario. Nice for what it is, but not much beyond that.

But I want to replay it soon to see if that opinion is close to the truth.

for not liking Smash? #shrug i don't think i'll be losing any sleep. Game is straight up gash. Here's 10p , go play on the lines son!


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I didn't like mario 64 even at launch.

heh, each to their own - it just felt so incredible to me. The machine was basically built around the game and it shows. At the time, the way the game felt in terms of control was pretty spectacular. Levels were replayable, multiple goals, graphically interesting... i dunno, one of the greatest games ever made, especially in the time frame. Magical even.

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Post by: Cerveza mas fina on December 05, 2012, 05:43:55 AM
You can only understand Mario 64 if you also played or had a Saturn and PSX at the same time. The competition was 2.5d games like Crash and Bug, or things like Jumping Jack Flash.

Mario was a game changer, together with OOT. They shaped what we play today even.
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Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on December 05, 2012, 05:48:25 AM
I really liked Mario 64 but the last time I played it was back in 2004 when I bought the DS remake (which was awesome btw and you can get all 150 stars through the d-pad)  Not sure how it holds up but I'm sure I'd still like it.  Mario Kart 64 was the true embarrassment.  One of my favorite things to do was to explore and find all kinds of bugs and glitches in the game, of which there were several.  Nintendo should have felt bad for putting out that half finished game.  I guess they felt they needed to get something out there once people were getting bored with Mario and Pilotwings.

The N64 was great for a broke ass like myself that could only afford 2-3 games a year.  I had a lot of fun with it.  I missed almost the entirety of the PlayStation library, which I still need to get to remediating that via the Vita.  However at the time it isn't like even if I had a PlayStation I would have been caught up.  I received maybe $100 a year through presents, money from odd jobs, and trade-ins.  The N64 was more my speed.
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Post by: Tasty on December 05, 2012, 01:14:16 PM
Quote from: Premium Lager on December 05, 2012, 02:35:07 AM
Did you play it at launch Andrex?

Very briefly, then not again until the DS launched and I got it for free in a bundle.
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Post by: Beezy on December 05, 2012, 01:47:14 PM
Quote from: Premium Lager on December 05, 2012, 02:22:46 AM
Do you guys still ever play with other peeps at your/their house?
Hardly. A friend came over this past weekend though and we played a couple Halo 4 matches online. Good times.
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Post by: Great Rumbler on December 05, 2012, 01:59:53 PM
Quote from: Premium Lager on December 05, 2012, 02:35:07 AM
Did you play it at launch Andrex?

Andrex wasn't even born yet when Mario 64 first came out.
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Post by: Himu on December 05, 2012, 02:56:11 PM
Well this decade isn't like back then. Back then everyone didn't have a cell phone and even NERDS had active social lives.
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Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on December 05, 2012, 03:05:20 PM
Quote from: Premium Lager on December 05, 2012, 02:22:46 AM
Do you guys still ever play with other peeps at your/their house?

I play Fifa with friends whenever I can (this year 1 time, last year looaaads). I also play Walking Dead with my fiancee (well she watches advises).

Most of my friends don't play video games period.  The remaining few just noodle around with various iOS games like Bejeweled and Angry Birds.  Most women my age (mid-late 20s) disdain video games and video game players.  They tend to associate them with manchildren who aren't doing shit with their lives, even if they fritter it away on Facebook, Pinterest, reality shows, and rewatching Sex and the City for the 5000th time.

It's the main reason why I'm on forums: I can discuss nerdery with people who know what the hell I'm talking about.
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Post by: tiesto on December 05, 2012, 04:35:44 PM
Quote from: The Experiment on December 05, 2012, 03:05:20 PM
Quote from: Premium Lager on December 05, 2012, 02:22:46 AM
Do you guys still ever play with other peeps at your/their house?

I play Fifa with friends whenever I can (this year 1 time, last year looaaads). I also play Walking Dead with my fiancee (well she watches advises).

Most of my friends don't play video games period.  The remaining few just noodle around with various iOS games like Bejeweled and Angry Birds.  Most women my age (mid-late 20s) disdain video games and video game players.  They tend to associate them with manchildren who aren't doing shit with their lives, even if they fritter it away on Facebook, Pinterest, reality shows, and rewatching Sex and the City for the 5000th time.

It's the main reason why I'm on forums: I can discuss nerdery with people who know what the hell I'm talking about.

That's why you gotta find women in the younger 20s who actually like video games. At least that's what I'm trying, to mixed results...

As sad as it is to say I am starting to think that probably the only girls who are gonna be into me and vice versa will be geek chicks.
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Post by: Steve Contra on December 05, 2012, 04:58:40 PM
Probably the worst thing you can think is that shared hobbies is a good indicator of relationship success.
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Post by: tiesto on December 05, 2012, 10:44:21 PM
Quote from: Steve Contra on December 05, 2012, 04:58:40 PM
Probably the worst thing you can think is that shared hobbies is a good indicator of relationship success.

I dunno, I get bored too easily if we have nothing really to talk about. *shrug* I've tried to get some girls interested in the things I like (and I try to keep a somewhat open mind to what they like) but most of them wanted no part of it. My longest relationship was with a gamer chick who actually willingly went clubbing with me though.
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Post by: pilonv1 on December 06, 2012, 06:37:01 PM
Run for the hills
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Post by: maxy on December 06, 2012, 06:40:58 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/zrcME.jpg)

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NPD reports Xbox 360 sells 1.26M consoles in Nov, nearly 2x all other consoles & >WiiU+Wii combined
https://twitter.com/aarongreenberg/statuses/276831169973211136

bomba

bring on next gen

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Post by: Himu on December 06, 2012, 06:42:02 PM
beaten
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Post by: maxy on December 06, 2012, 06:48:43 PM
Gamespot UK

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Nintendo DS only hardware to see year-over-year increase.

DS :bow2
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Post by: Don Flamenco on December 06, 2012, 06:48:59 PM
the industry should crash a little...make those publishers + devs hungry again.  maybe it'll spur creativity.

i don't know what i'm talking about.
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Post by: Steve Contra on December 06, 2012, 06:57:58 PM
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The culprit, he says, was Wii U hardware sales, which came in about $50 million below expected, and sales of Nintendo handhelds, the DS and 3DS. "Wii U hardware was sold out, we checked, so it's a supply issue," he says. But Wii U software sales "was abysmal, only Super Mario sold any meaningful units."

Not sold out here ???

And shit, I didn't realize 3DS was that dire.  Hopefully the end of consoles as we know it.
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Post by: maxy on December 06, 2012, 07:00:37 PM
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NPD analyst Liam Callahan noted that fewer games were released in November, compared to November 2011. However, the top five games had 5% more sales, unit-wise, than the top five from 2011.

"These new titles are holding their own and generating the same number of dollars per title on average," he said. "Unfortunately, declines this month stemmed from softer sales from catalog titles, which launched outside of this month, with dollar sales down 11 percent, collectively."

Other optimistic points: November's 11% overall decline was the smallest year-over-year decrease in 2012. "This is a sign of momentum going into the December holiday period," Callahan says.

And Wii U sales generated 21% more revenue than the Wii launch in November 2006, he said. "With an average price 35% higher for the Wii U at launch, compared to the Wii, this is an example of how consumers are willing to come out and spend when they see the value of the product."

Callahan compared this time period to November 2005 when the industry began transitioning to the Xbox 360 and, the following year, the Wii and PlayStation 3. Retail video game sales, he says, "are nearly twice as big as they were then. This really demonstrates the long-term health of retail sales even as many platforms are quite late in their lifecycles."

Wedbush Securities analyst Michael Pachter deemed the November sales results -- a record 12 months of declines -- as "worse than I expected."

The culprit, he says, was Wii U hardware sales, which came in about $50 million below expected, and sales of Nintendo handhelds, the DS and 3DS. "Wii U hardware was sold out, we checked, so it's a supply issue," he says. But Wii U software sales "was abysmal, only Super Mario sold any meaningful units."

Steady Wii U sales should help the industry to growth in early 2013, along with arrival of new games such as BioShock Infinite, Pachter says. Then, the eventual new consoles should lead to an industry rebound in 20
http://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/gaming/2012/12/06/npd-video-game-sales-november/1752081/
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Post by: maxy on December 06, 2012, 07:05:41 PM
Quote from: Steve Contra on December 06, 2012, 06:57:58 PM
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The culprit, he says, was Wii U hardware sales, which came in about $50 million below expected, and sales of Nintendo handhelds, the DS and 3DS. "Wii U hardware was sold out, we checked, so it's a supply issue," he says. But Wii U software sales "was abysmal, only Super Mario sold any meaningful units."

Not sold out here ???

And shit, I didn't realize 3DS was that dire.  Hopefully the end of consoles as we know it.

November tracking period = October 28-November 24

Nintendo PR
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Wii U: Following its launch on Nov. 18 and with only seven days of sales captured in the data, Wii U sold more than 425,000 units, nearly matching the Wii system’s first-week total of 475,000. On the software front, New Super Mario Bros. U sold more than 243,000 units, an attach rate of nearly 60 percent.

Nintendo 3DS: The platform kicked off its second holiday season by selling nearly 540,000 units and has now sold nearly 6.5 million units life to date. Additionally, Mario Kart 7 became the second Nintendo 3DS game to cross 2 million units sold in the U.S.

Wii: In its seventh November, Wii sold 420,000 units and has now sold more than 40 million units in the United States alone.

Nintendo DS: In its 97th month overall, Nintendo DS sold more than 370,000 units and will cross 53 million units sold life to date in the next few days.

WiiU top 15
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Mario
ZombiU
Scribblenaus
cod
jd4
nland
mickey
batman
sonic
skylanders
ac3
sing
nfl13
espn
ng3

no me3?
 :maf
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Post by: Takao on December 06, 2012, 08:04:25 PM
Just Dance 4 above Assassin's Creed, Batman, Sonic All-Stars Racing, and more. Wii U is gonna get amazing third party support this gen.

Also, PSAll-Stars Bomba Royale. 80k
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Post by: Purple Filth on December 06, 2012, 08:06:48 PM
Quote

no me3?
 :maf

putting the last game of a fucking trilogy was fucking stupid and even worse when the other systems got a compliation of all the games around the same time (hell one system finally got the first game  :lol).

Quote from: Takao on December 06, 2012, 08:04:25 PM
Just Dance 4 above Assassin's Creed, Batman, Sonic All-Stars Racing, and more. Wii U is gonna get amazing third party support this gen.

Also, PSAll-Stars Bomba Royale. 80k

less than 80k ps3

less than 8k vita
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Post by: cool breeze on December 06, 2012, 08:59:05 PM
so, is Zombiu going to be a retail release or XBLA/PSN?
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Post by: Tasty on December 06, 2012, 09:31:25 PM
Wii U doing only 50k less than Wii comparatively isn't bad, but the Wii was sold out and Wii U isn't really, which will definitely hurt it next month.

Surprised to see Nthingland so low, considering it's ostensibly attached to half of all systems sold. Did that include bundles numbers?

I wonder if Nintendo was just using NPD data for that PR or if they mixed in eShop sales. Hmm.

Scribblenauts being so high is surprising to me.

3DS at 6.5 million US LTD is actually pretty good I'd say, this is only its second November (compared to Wii, which is at 40 mil after 7 years.) It being down YoY should scare the hell out of Nintendo though, YoY drops shouldn't happen until the fourth or fifth year.
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Post by: Tasty on December 06, 2012, 09:33:27 PM
Quote from: fryinghigh on December 06, 2012, 08:59:05 PM
so, is Zombiu going to be a retail release or XBLA/PSN?

Probably not since it seems Nintendo had a hand in development (it even got its own Iwata Asks.)
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Post by: pilonv1 on December 06, 2012, 09:38:13 PM
Quote from: Andrex on December 06, 2012, 09:31:25 PM
Surprised to see Nthingland so low, considering it's ostensibly attached to half of all systems sold. Did that include bundles numbers

Image above clearly stats they're not counting hard bundles with the software numbers. It's not really surprising, nthings bought premiums which were the majority of stock.

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Scribblenauts being so high is surprising to me.

High is relative, it's high for Wii U titles.
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Post by: Tasty on December 06, 2012, 09:38:59 PM
Quote from: pilonv1 on December 06, 2012, 09:38:13 PM
Image above clearly stats they're not counting hard bundles with the software numbers.

Oh, then it's probably doing quite well.

Quote from: pilonv1 on December 06, 2012, 09:38:13 PM
High is relative, it's high for Wii U titles.

I'm still surprised by it.
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Post by: Joe Molotov on December 06, 2012, 09:43:27 PM
Quote from: Positive Touch on December 04, 2012, 06:13:34 PM
Quote from: Great Rumbler on December 04, 2012, 05:04:23 PM
4-player local multiplayer on the N64 was utterly amazing in the late-90's. I can't hate.

that shit was a joke if you had access to some REAL t1 gaming goodness back in the day. quake, diablo, starcraft, unreal, fuck even a c-grade fps killed whatever was going on with the n64 at the time. it was like the divide between 360 and wii, except 100x more laughable

Starcraft and Unreal weren't even out yet. PCfags trying to retcon reality. ::)
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Post by: archie4208 on December 06, 2012, 10:09:57 PM
PC/mobile future here we come.  :bow2
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Post by: AdmiralViscen on December 06, 2012, 10:13:17 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on December 06, 2012, 09:49:59 PM
6.5 million 3DSs in America in nearly two years isn't very good at all.  It's not terrible, but it's way behind Nintendo's usual handheld sales.  Being down year-on-year, as you recognize, is also terrible given it's just the second year.  That's not even the worst news, though.  The hardware sales are, what I would say, disappointing but passable.  The software?  Yikes.  More than ever, people are just buying this handheld for Mario Kart and Super Mario and buying literally nothing else.

There is nothing else on that shit, where's my Castlevania and Sonic and Mega Man and Advance Wars
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Post by: maxy on December 06, 2012, 10:23:02 PM
3DS software and hardware is just too expensive for kids(parents),especially software.Nintendo should be much more flexible with software prices,they are not alone on the (kids)market anymore.

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Post by: pilonv1 on December 06, 2012, 10:30:11 PM
Parents found out kids are happy with Angry Birds and its ilk for 99c on their old smart phones they were going to throw away.
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Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on December 06, 2012, 10:34:25 PM
Anecdotally speaking, nobody I know plays consoles anymore.  A 99 cent iOS game satiates their gaming needs.  Since more and more kids are getting iOS devices, I can easily see why the 3DS is in trouble.  Nintendo just can't compete, even if they were to relax their ass backwards policies.

I think I predicted (maybe in this thread) that this next generation is going to be the last conventional generation.  Sony will go tits up, getting bought out by GREE or some shit.  Microsoft will drop the Xbox line if the Surface (or whatever the Surface evolves to) takes off.  Nintendo might stick around but they won't be anything like they are even now.  The only option will be iOS, Android (lol), or the Pee Cee, which will need to rely on the burgeoning indie scene as more and more large publishers die off.
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Post by: Himu on December 06, 2012, 10:53:21 PM
I predict games becoming more and more like Hollywood in the sense that there are very few BIG, MAJOR big budget publishers, there will be a thriving indie scene. Games will survive, they'll just be in a more contained environment.
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Post by: Great Rumbler on December 06, 2012, 11:07:19 PM
Quote from: Formerly Known As Himuro on December 06, 2012, 10:53:21 PM
I predict games becoming more and more like Hollywood in the sense that there are very few BIG, MAJOR big budget publishers, there will be a thriving indie scene.

So...pretty much exactly like it is right now?
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Post by: Himu on December 06, 2012, 11:10:01 PM
except way smaller.
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Post by: Purple Filth on December 06, 2012, 11:14:02 PM
Quote from: AdmiralViscen on December 06, 2012, 10:13:17 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on December 06, 2012, 09:49:59 PM
6.5 million 3DSs in America in nearly two years isn't very good at all.  It's not terrible, but it's way behind Nintendo's usual handheld sales.  Being down year-on-year, as you recognize, is also terrible given it's just the second year.  That's not even the worst news, though.  The hardware sales are, what I would say, disappointing but passable.  The software?  Yikes.  More than ever, people are just buying this handheld for Mario Kart and Super Mario and buying literally nothing else.

There is nothing else on that shit, where's my Castlevania and Sonic and Mega Man and Advance Wars

i see more interesting games to buy on vita... :'(
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Post by: pilonv1 on December 06, 2012, 11:45:35 PM
Quote from: Formerly Known As Himuro on December 06, 2012, 11:10:01 PM
except way smaller

Console gaming is just contracting back to a hobbyists market. It wont die but the boom period is well and truly over.
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Post by: Himu on December 07, 2012, 12:22:57 AM
Quote from: pilonv1 on December 06, 2012, 11:45:35 PM
Quote from: Formerly Known As Himuro on December 06, 2012, 11:10:01 PM
except way smaller

Console gaming is just contracting back to a hobbyists market. It wont die but the boom period is well and truly over.

yup
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Post by: cool breeze on December 07, 2012, 12:45:01 AM
I'm genuinely curious to see if next gen will reinvigorate the industry like everyone wants it to.  The strongest reactions in the media have been for games believed to be next gen (Watch Dogs, Star Wars).

And it's wild that there are still big games coming in 2013 for 360/PS3.  Microsoft more than Sony is at least wrapping things up with only Gears of War.  Sony has God of War -1, Sly 4, Last of Us, and Beyond.
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Post by: Stoney Mason on December 07, 2012, 01:34:04 AM
Sony really tanked it on exclusives people wanted to buy this fall.
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Post by: Rahxephon91 on December 07, 2012, 01:52:18 AM
lol looks like it bombed.

It's been a pretty shitty year for my Playstation. Don't think I played any new exclusives on it this year.
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Post by: Purple Filth on December 07, 2012, 01:56:26 AM
Quote from: Rahxephon91 on December 07, 2012, 01:52:18 AM
lol looks like it bombed.

It's been a pretty shitty year for my Playstation. Don't think I played any new exclusives on it this year.

Ps3 version less than 80k

Vita version less than 8k

it was fucking nuclear
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Post by: Rahxephon91 on December 07, 2012, 02:00:43 AM
Well that's a shame. I mean I still think the game looks pretty terrible and the idea still sounds awful. But my friend has really been enjoying it and it does seem they like they made a decent game that's an actual fighter. A sequel could have been a real improvement, but I guess that won't happen.
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Post by: maxy on December 07, 2012, 04:51:19 AM
http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2012-12-07-halo-4-sold-3-2m-in-us-during-november

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Microsoft's Halo 4 sold 3.2 million units in the US during November, according to NPS sales data leaked by analyst firm Cowen and Company.

The title was the second biggest boxed game in the region during the month, with Activision's Call of Duty: Black Ops 2 topping the charts with 7.5 million units sold.

Ubisoft's Assassin's Creed III also performed well, shifting 2.9 million units, while further down the sales chart was Electronic Arts' Need for Speed: Most Wanted, selling 509,000 units.
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Post by: DCharlieJP on December 07, 2012, 05:56:21 AM
the other crazy notion seems to be that Nintendo aren't getting touched by the iOS thing

In crazier news - i heard a financial dickhead on radio today say that the gaming industry is in a dire place "following the poor sales of X360 with only 1.2m units sold"

I mean - the industry certainly is facing trouble but i don't think 1.2m or so hardware sales for a 7 year old console is particularly the barometer for that.
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Post by: maxy on December 07, 2012, 06:35:31 AM
There is some talk in the depths of the internet about bunch of new business models for xbox next.
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Post by: DCharlieJP on December 07, 2012, 06:42:24 AM
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right now the whole industry seems to be banking on the hope and prayer that a new generation will turn everything around.

i think it's next gen where the reality is going to cockpunch the industry.

IF however xbox next does have something like , say, a stupidly low price and just an agreement for a 2-3 year XBL lock in then that's going to go a hell of a long way to helping things.

$249 + 2 years live ? $199 + 4 years?

it's a good way to get around the fact that you're paying for something that should basically be free at this point.

Ultimately, any way they can get your credit details into the system and market the fuck out of whatever goodies they have to offer. This, obviously, is going to ROYALLY FUCK people not living in the UK. I guess they might do a "buy outright" model at $499
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Post by: DCharlieJP on December 07, 2012, 06:51:04 AM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on December 07, 2012, 06:45:43 AM
that's a possible route for delivering more hardware, but at the end of the day, the software prices can't stay as high as they are now and hope to yank people away from their tablets and PCs.

well, delivering more hardware is a prerequisite for having lower software prices i'd have thought. If prices are going to come down then you have to expect that you need to sell to a larger base than usual.

But we all know what is going to happen - $5-$10 price hike per game , shorter games, more DLC, online passes as standard -even- with new games.
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Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on December 07, 2012, 07:09:34 AM
There's going to be a lot of nickel and diming for this next generation.
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Post by: Cerveza mas fina on December 07, 2012, 07:19:57 AM
Wait so there isn't a single WiiU game in the chart?

Bomba total  :lol

Nintendo is killing the industry with their weak shit.

PS: Wonderbook  :'( :'( :'(

spoiler (click to show/hide)
At least Sony doesn't put vendor names in the credits so I won't live in shame forever
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Post by: originalz on December 07, 2012, 07:57:50 AM
Any info on how the Vita COD game did?  Supposed to be a savior and all...
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Post by: Cerveza mas fina on December 07, 2012, 08:31:32 AM
I know I know. Still its cool to see 360 do > wii+ wiiu :)
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Post by: Eel O'Brian on December 07, 2012, 08:59:46 AM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on December 07, 2012, 07:02:43 AM
I've been saying it for a long-ass time, but it's scary how closely the games industry is mirroring the American comics industry's trajectory.  Geeks gonna geek, I guess.

So have I. Lots of eerie parallels to the mid-90s implosion.

Best Buy has started offering that "$99 360 with a 2-yr $15 XBL contract." That's what my fiance is getting for her kids, who can't seem to stop beating the hell out of each other over PS3 time. If you count the cost of the Skyrim and Forza games packed in the 250GB holiday bundle, the contract deal only works out to be about $15 more over the long run, so it's not a bad deal. I can totally see them continuing this contract plan for the next Xbox.
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Post by: Cerveza mas fina on December 07, 2012, 09:29:42 AM
What happened to comics? ( i never read a comic)
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Post by: ToxicAdam on December 07, 2012, 09:30:54 AM
I think the parallel is more towards broadcast television. The major players will all be there and still very valuable entities, but the measuring stick of what is considered a 'success' will be greatly diminished.

Consumer dilution across the board. But there will still be a select few titles that breakout and sell millions and millions.

I think as long as there are 14-20 year old males, there will always be a market for a dedicated console. It's the perfect tool for escape and filling up hours of your time.

 
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Post by: Eel O'Brian on December 07, 2012, 09:44:29 AM
Quote from: Premium Lager on December 07, 2012, 09:29:42 AM
What happened to comics? ( i never read a comic)

Speculator comics flooding the market, for the most part. Expensive gimmick covers, multipart storylines which went on forever and you HAD to buy everything to understand what was going on, multiple shitty spinoff titles, that kind of thing. Comic shop owners overordering and getting stuck with piles of comics like the return of Superman storyline, Image comics titles going for like a year between issues and people losing interest. Tons of startup companies popping up overnight to cash in on the boom and producing absolute shit that they expected people to pay upwards of $5 for (and this was the 90s, remember) just because they slapped a hologram cover on it.

the parallels to me are:

Gimmick covers = "limited" editions and preorder bonuses
Neverending crossovers = DLC and microtransactions
Delayed issues and titles = Delayed games
Retailers over ordering = same
Upstarts flooding the market with crap that has no hope of selling anywhere other than a bargain bin
Both thinking every game/comic has to command top dollar
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Post by: Cerveza mas fina on December 07, 2012, 09:53:53 AM
Very interesting thanks.

What I see as a difference for one: MULTIPLAYER. You wanna play that Wow, fifa, madden, cod, world of tanks with your friends. Not saying this is the industry saviour, but it seems games are fundamentally different

Another thing: Cheap games on mobiles, DD, sales.  Gaming market caters to everyone now with every budget. F2P, retail, DD, any platform.
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Post by: HyperZoneWasAwesome on December 07, 2012, 12:00:42 PM
I really like Toxic Adam's analogy, as the problems facing the gaming industry really do mirror the television business of today.  If you think of Sony as NBC (a former giant who can't stop fucking up, partially because smaller and nimbler companies are eating its lunch) it can be quite illustrative

although Vita =/= Jay Leno
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Post by: cool breeze on December 07, 2012, 12:08:31 PM
Apparently Black Ops 2 is the worst selling Call of Duty since MW2 ("worst" at 7.5 million down from MW3's 9 million).  Though, it had less time and more competition from Halo 4.

Assassin's Creed 3 did like triple what Assassin's Creed games normally do; nearly 3 million.  I guess the change in setting or something really paid off.
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Post by: Great Rumbler on December 07, 2012, 12:14:24 PM
Quote from: fryinghigh on December 07, 2012, 12:08:31 PM
Assassin's Creed 3 did like triple what Assassin's Creed games normally do; nearly 3 million.  I guess the change in setting or something really paid off.

It's the setting.
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Post by: Himu on December 07, 2012, 02:07:49 PM
Quote from: Eel O'Brian on December 07, 2012, 09:44:29 AM
Quote from: Premium Lager on December 07, 2012, 09:29:42 AM
What happened to comics? ( i never read a comic)

Speculator comics flooding the market, for the most part. Expensive gimmick covers, multipart storylines which went on forever and you HAD to buy everything to understand what was going on, multiple shitty spinoff titles, that kind of thing. Comic shop owners overordering and getting stuck with piles of comics like the return of Superman storyline, Image comics titles going for like a year between issues and people losing interest. Tons of startup companies popping up overnight to cash in on the boom and producing absolute shit that they expected people to pay upwards of $5 for (and this was the 90s, remember) just because they slapped a hologram cover on it.

the parallels to me are:

Gimmick covers = "limited" editions and preorder bonuses
Neverending crossovers = DLC and microtransactions
Delayed issues and titles = Delayed games
Retailers over ordering = same
Upstarts flooding the market with crap that has no hope of selling anywhere other than a bargain bin
Both thinking every game/comic has to command top dollar

While you have a lot of points, the gaming industry has what the comic industry didn't have, or had but wasn't as sucessfull: an indie scene. Minecraft is huge on 360 and pc and phones and it's indie. Angry Birds? Indie. Indie games are ACTUALLY SELLING thanks to dd services. Did american comics have that? I find Toxic Adam's comparison surprisingly more apt though you raise A LOT of on point parallels, namely the point of reaching for top dollar.
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Post by: Cerveza mas fina on December 07, 2012, 02:12:06 PM
Quote from: Great Rumbler on December 07, 2012, 12:14:24 PM
Quote from: fryinghigh on December 07, 2012, 12:08:31 PM
Assassin's Creed 3 did like triple what Assassin's Creed games normally do; nearly 3 million.  I guess the change in setting or something really paid off.

It's the setting.

How did it do in Europe though?
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Post by: Steve Contra on December 07, 2012, 02:21:07 PM
Quote from: Formerly Known As Himuro on December 07, 2012, 02:07:49 PM
Quote from: Eel O'Brian on December 07, 2012, 09:44:29 AM
Quote from: Premium Lager on December 07, 2012, 09:29:42 AM
What happened to comics? ( i never read a comic)

Speculator comics flooding the market, for the most part. Expensive gimmick covers, multipart storylines which went on forever and you HAD to buy everything to understand what was going on, multiple shitty spinoff titles, that kind of thing. Comic shop owners overordering and getting stuck with piles of comics like the return of Superman storyline, Image comics titles going for like a year between issues and people losing interest. Tons of startup companies popping up overnight to cash in on the boom and producing absolute shit that they expected people to pay upwards of $5 for (and this was the 90s, remember) just because they slapped a hologram cover on it.

the parallels to me are:

Gimmick covers = "limited" editions and preorder bonuses
Neverending crossovers = DLC and microtransactions
Delayed issues and titles = Delayed games
Retailers over ordering = same
Upstarts flooding the market with crap that has no hope of selling anywhere other than a bargain bin
Both thinking every game/comic has to command top dollar

While you have a lot of points, the gaming industry has what the comic industry didn't have, or had but wasn't as sucessfull: an indie scene. Minecraft is huge on 360 and pc and phones and it's indie. Angry Birds? Indie. Indie games are ACTUALLY SELLING thanks to dd services. Did american comics have that? I find Toxic Adam's comparison surprisingly more apt though you raise A LOT of on point parallels, namely the point of reaching for top dollar.
So comics aren't apt, because there wasn't a big indie scene, but broadcast television is? :wtf
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Post by: Himu on December 07, 2012, 02:23:04 PM
I guess when I made the post, I was thinking cable would be "indie" in this case, though I know that's not the case. :lol
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Post by: Great Rumbler on December 07, 2012, 02:40:21 PM
Also, the games industry has :bow Kickstarter :bow2 :smug
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Post by: Purple Filth on December 07, 2012, 03:00:27 PM
apparently ZombiU was a bomb  :lol

Quote
"A bit less"? Would love to know your definition of 'a bit' and where you heard that from.

I'd say its more like 'a gulf,' personally.

:(

so much for dat 3rd party exclusive i guess
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Post by: Cerveza mas fina on December 07, 2012, 03:29:03 PM
Quote from: Great Rumbler on December 07, 2012, 02:40:21 PM
Also, the games industry has :bow Kickstarter :bow2 :smug

Yeah I haven't seen people pony up for comics or movies up front.

I think games we like will always be there with things like this.
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Post by: Tasty on December 07, 2012, 04:10:42 PM
Someone really needs to WikiLeak the hell out of NPD.
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Post by: Eel O'Brian on December 07, 2012, 04:34:06 PM
There actually was big indie scene in comics back in the 90s, but most of the "indie" companies that cropped up  (Valiant, Malibu, Topps Comics, etc) focused on overhyped mainstream superhero knockoffs. There was always Fantagraphics, Dark Horse, etc. for an indie fix - those had already been around for years, but the price points were the same. There wasn't a cheaper indie alternative, true.
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Post by: Great Rumbler on December 07, 2012, 04:38:01 PM
:bow Hotline Miami :bow2 was one of the coolest games this year and it only cost $10.
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Post by: maxy on December 07, 2012, 04:44:29 PM
1.2 games per console

heh
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Post by: Cerveza mas fina on December 07, 2012, 04:45:02 PM
Word GR, its far from mainstream but hotline is amazing.
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Post by: Huff on December 07, 2012, 05:36:44 PM
Zombiu launch less than 1/2 Red Steel.

I guess even nintendo fans sometimes dont make the same mistake twice
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Post by: tiesto on December 07, 2012, 07:33:21 PM
Quote from: Eel O'Brian on December 07, 2012, 09:44:29 AM
Quote from: Premium Lager on December 07, 2012, 09:29:42 AM
What happened to comics? ( i never read a comic)

Speculator comics flooding the market, for the most part. Expensive gimmick covers, multipart storylines which went on forever and you HAD to buy everything to understand what was going on, multiple shitty spinoff titles, that kind of thing. Comic shop owners overordering and getting stuck with piles of comics like the return of Superman storyline, Image comics titles going for like a year between issues and people losing interest. Tons of startup companies popping up overnight to cash in on the boom and producing absolute shit that they expected people to pay upwards of $5 for (and this was the 90s, remember) just because they slapped a hologram cover on it.

the parallels to me are:

Gimmick covers = "limited" editions and preorder bonuses
Neverending crossovers = DLC and microtransactions
Delayed issues and titles = Delayed games
Retailers over ordering = same
Upstarts flooding the market with crap that has no hope of selling anywhere other than a bargain bin
Both thinking every game/comic has to command top dollar

Oh man I remember Image Comics back in my 1 year where I was into comic collecting... Pitt, Spawn... that was like the epitome of 90's...
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Post by: Stoney Mason on December 07, 2012, 08:36:53 PM
Quote from: ToxicAdam on December 07, 2012, 09:30:54 AM
I think the parallel is more towards broadcast television. The major players will all be there and still very valuable entities, but the measuring stick of what is considered a 'success' will be greatly diminished.

Consumer dilution across the board. But there will still be a select few titles that breakout and sell millions and millions.

I think as long as there are 14-20 year old males, there will always be a market for a dedicated console. It's the perfect tool for escape and filling up hours of your time.

This is also roughly how I feel. At least for the upcoming generation. After that we will see how the internet and cloud stuff is progressing.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Phoenix Dark on December 07, 2012, 08:37:27 PM
whoa NSMB WiiU bombed
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: maxy on December 10, 2012, 05:55:36 AM
Uk Charts,this time we got Halo 4 number

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‘Call of Duty: Black Ops II’ takes the crown for a 4th week at No1 (-15%).

It becomes the 4th title to hold four consecutive weeks at the top of our All Formats Chart in 2012 along with both FIFA 12, FIFA 13 and Lego Batman 2 (which has 5 weeks). ‘Far Cry 3’ (-8%) holds the No2 ahead of EA’s ‘FIFA 13’ (+18%) which stays at No3 despite a strong increase in sales. Retailer promotions continue to propel ‘Just Dance 4’ (+54%) up the chart from No6 to No4 ahead of another Ubisoft title ‘Assassin’s Creed III’ (+10%) at No5. ‘Hitman Absolution’ (-3%) slips to No6 while ‘Halo 4’ (52,340 / +36%) climbs a spot to No7.

A strong sales push sees ‘WWE ’13’ (+124%) back into the Top 10 at No10. Further down the chart the release of Sega’s ‘Sonic & All Stars Racing Transformed’ (+39%) on PS Vita sees the title continue its week on week climb to No16. There’s also a debut for ‘Paper Mario Sticker Star’ new for Nintendo 3DS at No40.

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Week 49, 2012 - Individual Formats (Units)

01 (01) 360 Call Of Duty: Black Ops Ii (Activision Blizzard)
02 (04) WII Just Dance 4 (Ubisoft)
03 (02) PS3 Call Of Duty: Black Ops Ii (Activision Blizzard)
04 (03) 360 Far Cry 3 (Ubisoft)
05 (05) 360 Halo 4 (Microsoft)
06 (06) 360 Fifa 13 (Electronic Arts)
07 (09) 360 Assassin's Creed Iii (Ubisoft)
08 (12) PS3 Fifa 13 (Electronic Arts)
09 (08) PS3 Far Cry 3 (Ubisoft)
10 (07) 360 Hitman Absolution (Square Enix Europe)
11 (10) PS3 Hitman Absolution (Square Enix Europe)
12 (13) PS3 Assassin's Creed Iii (Ubisoft)
13 (32) 360 Wwe '13 (Thq)
14 (24) PS3 Need For Speed Most Wanted (Electronic Arts)
15 (15) PC Football Manager 2013 (Sega)
16 (19) 360 Need For Speed Most Wanted (Electronic Arts)
17 (20) 3DS New Super Mario Bros. 2 (Nintendo)
18 (17) 360 Lego The Lord Of The Rings (Warner Bros. Interactive)
19 (18) WII Skylanders Giants (Activision Blizzard)
20 (__) PS3 Wwe '13 (Thq)
21 (29) 360 The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim (Bethesda Softworks)
22 (22) PS3 Book Of Spells (Sony Computer Ent.)
23 (21) 360 Forza Horizon (Microsoft)
24 (30) 360 Forza Motorsport 4 (Microsoft)
25 (26) NDS Moshi Monsters: Moshlings Theme Park (Mind Candy)
26 (28) 360 Skylanders Giants (Activision Blizzard)
27 (11) WiiU Nintendo Land (Nintendo)
28 (__) WII Just Dance Disney Party (Ubisoft)
29 (33) 3DS Mario Kart 7 (Nintendo)
30 (31) PS3 Lego The Lord Of The Rings (Warner Bros. Interactive)
31 (37) 360 Medal Of Honor: Warfighter (Electronic Arts)
32 (35) 3DS Professor Layton And The Miracle Mask (Nintendo)
33 (23) WII Lego The Lord Of The Rings (Warner Bros. Interactive)
34 (__) PS3 Medal Of Honor: Warfighter (Electronic Arts)
35 (40) 3DS Super Mario 3d Land (Nintendo)
36 (14) WiiU New Super Mario Bros. U (Nintendo)
37 (25) 360 Dishonored (Bethesda Softworks)
38 (__) 360 Dance Central 2 (Microsoft)
39 (__) 360 F1 2012 (Codemasters)
40 (__) NDS Paper Mario Sticker Star (Nintendo)
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on December 10, 2012, 08:09:07 AM
Jeeeeeeesuuuuus wii u software is tanking.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: archnemesis on December 10, 2012, 08:24:00 AM
You can't expect software to sell if no one is buying the hardware.

I have forgotten. Do the UK charts include bundled games in the chart? With Nintendo Land ranking higher than Mario, I suppose that is about the total amount of Wii Us sold. The vast majority prefer the Premium bundle.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Third on December 10, 2012, 08:36:13 AM
Quote from: Phoenix Dark on December 07, 2012, 08:37:27 PM
whoa NSMB WiiU bombed

And I'm glad it did.

Such a lazy product.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: maxy on December 10, 2012, 09:34:32 AM
Quote
Do the UK charts include bundled games in the chart?
Yes.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Tasty on December 10, 2012, 10:19:00 AM
Nintendoland > NSMBU? UKers have fricking awful taste, wow. And no I don't care Nland was bundle. :maf

Quote from: Third on December 10, 2012, 08:36:13 AM
Quote from: Phoenix Dark on December 07, 2012, 08:37:27 PM
whoa NSMB WiiU bombed

And I'm glad it did.

Such a lazy product.

Fantastic level design, doesn't deserve to bomb at all. Should it do NSMB DS/Wii numbers? Debatable but it's a very solid game, easily the best New game.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Takao on December 10, 2012, 11:17:21 AM
Wonderbook outsold all of the Wii U games :lol
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Joe Molotov on December 10, 2012, 11:19:22 AM
Football Manager :bow2

Steam > WiiU
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: maxy on December 10, 2012, 12:11:53 PM
Japan sales(2 days)

http://www.gamekult.com/actu/japon-les-premiers-chiffres-wii-u-A106415.html

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1.   New Super Mario Bros. U    WiiU    160.140
2.   Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate    WiiU    106.454
3.   Nintendo Land    WiiU    66.583
4.   ZombiU    WiiU    10.680
5.   Warriors Orochi 3 Hyper    WiiU    7.252
6.   Tekken Tag Tournament 2    WiiU    4.951

307,471 WiiU sold


Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on December 10, 2012, 12:15:37 PM
Quote from: Takao on December 10, 2012, 11:17:21 AM
Wonderbook outsold all of the Wii U games :lol

Wonderbook is a much better product with higher production values then those nintendo games combined, id buy it for my kid too over a wiiu game.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Third on December 10, 2012, 12:16:44 PM
Vita sold more  :lol

First week numbers from other hw

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PS2: 630,552
GBA: 611,504
NDS: 441,485
Wii: 371,936
3DS: 371,326
PSV: 321,407

And Nintendo wants to sell 5.5mln WiiU units by april next year. LOL. How about no
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Joe Molotov on December 10, 2012, 12:18:44 PM
Other Japanese console debuts:

PS2: 630,552
GBA: 611,504
NDS: 441,485
Wii: 371,936
3DS: 371,326
PSV: 321,407

(http://i.imgur.com/UwshC.png)
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Sho Nuff on December 10, 2012, 12:20:56 PM
The question is, are there any Weeoos left in stock in the land of the rising sun

Or is it simply the case that the market has changed and Weeoo has no Uguu :uguu
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Takao on December 10, 2012, 12:21:12 PM
That makes both the UK and Japan where Wii U has debuted worse than Vita.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Third on December 10, 2012, 12:27:53 PM
WiiU has been such a disaster so far. Everything has been just horrible.  Unreliable hardware and shitty software? Nintendo has got you covered!

I smell another 3DS scenario, only with more doom and gloom. Huge pricecut coming before summer.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Mr. Gundam on December 10, 2012, 12:29:05 PM
Quote from: Sho Nuff on December 10, 2012, 12:20:56 PM
Weeoo has no Uguu

Love it.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on December 10, 2012, 12:30:07 PM
Well vita has better games then Wiiu so it makes sense too.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on December 10, 2012, 12:44:53 PM
 :lol that was my fav thread last few days.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: bork on December 10, 2012, 01:40:29 PM
Quote from: Sho Nuff on December 10, 2012, 12:20:56 PM
Weeoo has no Uguu :uguu

:bow :bow2
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: archie4208 on December 10, 2012, 02:04:33 PM
Quote from: Joe Molotov on December 10, 2012, 11:19:22 AM
Football Manager :bow2

Steam > WiiU

I can't wait for Steambox to outsell Wii U.

:bow Gaben :bow2
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Takao on December 10, 2012, 02:16:48 PM
 So the Wii U launched well everywhere. Did someone page the Doom Brigade to spin these numbers into doomed?
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Third on December 10, 2012, 02:25:07 PM
Has it reached 1mln yet? Is there a sales breakdown?
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Joe Molotov on December 10, 2012, 02:30:29 PM
Quote from: Takao on December 10, 2012, 02:16:48 PM
So the Wii U launched well everywhere. Did someone page the Doom Brigade to spin these numbers into doomed?

I paged the whaaambulance for immediate dispatch to 321 Neogaf Lane.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: DCharlieJP on December 10, 2012, 04:17:35 PM
Quote
Is Wii U still sold out?

no - at least in Shinjuku it's in stock everywhere.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Sho Nuff on December 10, 2012, 04:25:56 PM
XFE U LIAR!! PIX OR IT DIDNT HAPPEN
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: cool breeze on December 10, 2012, 04:52:40 PM
It's kind of a shame, tbh.  I wanted the Vita or Wii U to be successful just to move Japan out of the PS2-age.  Now the 3DS is yet another outlet to just keep making (admittedly cheaper) PS2 games  :'(

Monster Hunter and Dragon Quest aren't out yet, right? even so, NSMB games are as popular in Japan as in the states, no?

Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: DCharlieJP on December 10, 2012, 05:05:00 PM
the funniest part is that Sofmap have a huge stock of the machines behind the counter, but when you try to buy one they are only available if you sign up for Flets Hikari for 2 years! lol.

Walk round the corner to Yamada - there we go, units. Walk to Yodobashi - units. Walk to Bic - units.

Tards.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Purple Filth on December 10, 2012, 05:16:54 PM
Quote from: Takao on December 10, 2012, 02:16:48 PM
So the Wii U launched well everywhere. Did someone page the Doom Brigade to spin these numbers into doomed?

You should read the rest of his posts  :lol
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: pilonv1 on December 10, 2012, 05:37:17 PM
Quote from: Sho Nuff on December 10, 2012, 04:25:56 PM
XFE U LIAR!! PIX OR IT DIDNT HAPPEN

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/A9ySdf6CQAMziDK.jpg:large)

:o :o :o
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Joe Molotov on December 10, 2012, 05:56:43 PM
Fake.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Eel O'Brian on December 10, 2012, 06:20:25 PM
lazy retailers
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: AdmiralViscen on December 10, 2012, 06:31:16 PM
Probably empty demo boxes
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Purple Filth on December 10, 2012, 06:54:11 PM
Quote from: pilonv1 on December 10, 2012, 05:37:17 PM
Quote from: Sho Nuff on December 10, 2012, 04:25:56 PM
XFE U LIAR!! PIX OR IT DIDNT HAPPEN

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/A9ySdf6CQAMziDK.jpg:large)

:o :o :o

thats some mighty photoshop skills you got there.



.....




 :lol
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: pilonv1 on December 10, 2012, 08:15:53 PM
who's Frenchy?
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: DCharlieJP on December 10, 2012, 08:58:01 PM
Man, i seem to have upset a whole slew of sensitive flowers for daring to suggest that the WiiU might not sell above the Vita's launch.

I wasn't even trolling, it's just a prediction based on what i see happening here (no marketing, no demo units, limited adverts, no buzz, preorders still available after 3 months sitting on shelves etc). I didn't even mention the Vita, it was THOSE arseholes who said "SO it's GOING TO SELL LESS THAN THE VITA?! YOU TROLL HOW DARE YOU !!!!"

but nooooooooooo - it has to be some hidden agenda. I love how , even though Frenchy's 300k figure is below the Vita launch 3 days, that there's "0.0001% chance" the WiiU won't outsell the Vita over the same relative periods. Loool.

Some people are going to need therapy come Jan 2013.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Oblivion on December 10, 2012, 09:22:09 PM
NSMBU is sorta a lazy effort, but I didn't want it to bomb that hard. Granted, it's a 2D Mario game so it may have legs.

Still, if the game doesn't do as well as Nintendo expected, maybe they'll finally ditch that shitty style with the next 2D title.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Purple Filth on December 10, 2012, 09:23:26 PM
now i'm really hoping for vita like weekly numbers just to see the tears  :lol :lol :lol :lol
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: cool breeze on December 10, 2012, 09:27:50 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on December 10, 2012, 09:17:01 PM
I can't believe this is coming as such a surprise to anyone.  But I've gone up and down this several times now.

Double my pleasure, though.  It's been joyous watching the Vitards twisting in the wind this year, I'll gladly take a second helping of that next year with Nintard Tear dressing.

Funny thing is that both the Vita and Wii U are like "throw mud at wall, see what sticks" approaches.  And nothing stuck!

Now to see if Sony and Microsoft will learn from the mistakes of 2012's failures with their next consoles. 

Quote from: Oblivion on December 10, 2012, 09:22:09 PM
NSMBU is sorta a lazy effort, but I didn't want it to bomb that hard. Granted, it's a 2D Mario game so it may have legs.

Still, if the game doesn't do as well as Nintendo expected, maybe they'll finally ditch that shitty style with the next 2D title.

NSMBU is so lazy, aesthetically, and also so great, game-wise.  I almost want to say it wasn't laziness, but Nintendo was just playing it incredibly safe to cash in on the past successes of the NSMB series.  I can't tell if there are even new songs in NSMBU.

Nintendo didn't want to change the recipe, is what I'm saying.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Sho Nuff on December 11, 2012, 01:44:56 AM
Wait, it did those kinds of numbers with a Mohan game at launch?
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on December 11, 2012, 02:33:04 AM
What are the odds of Ninty hitting one out of the park next year? A mario with rayman quality visuals, im not talking some core new ip even lol.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: archnemesis on December 11, 2012, 02:39:05 AM
I'm guessing it will take years for Nintendo to update their art assets to look on par with something like Rayman. It took Ubisoft three years and a 100+ team to complete it.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: maxy on December 11, 2012, 02:40:18 AM
Quote
Now to see if Sony and Microsoft will learn from the mistakes of 2012's failures with their next consoles. 

I think Vita has clearly shown that it's not enough to just have games,you need must have system seller games,games that sell millions.And you also need new business models,$60 fire&forget model is going the way of the Dodo.

As for WiiU,if UK market is any indication,people are not biting

some numbers for this week
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01 (01) 360 Call Of Duty: Black Ops Ii (Activision Blizzard)
02 (04) WII Just Dance 4 (Ubisoft)
03 (02) PS3 Call Of Duty: Black Ops Ii (Activision Blizzard)
04 (03) 360 Far Cry 3 (Ubisoft)
05 (05) 360 Halo 4 (Microsoft) - 52,340
06 (06) 360 Fifa 13 (Electronic Arts)
07 (09) 360 Assassin's Creed Iii (Ubisoft) - 32,030
08 (12) PS3 Fifa 13 (Electronic Arts)
09 (08) PS3 Far Cry 3 (Ubisoft)
10 (07) 360 Hitman Absolution (Square Enix Europe) - >29,441
11 (10) PS3 Hitman Absolution (Square Enix Europe) - <26,099
12 (13) PS3 Assassin's Creed Iii (Ubisoft) - 24,912
13 (32) 360 Wwe '13 (Thq)
14 (24) PS3 Need For Speed Most Wanted (Electronic Arts) - <23,553
15 (15) PC Football Manager 2013 (Sega)
16 (19) 360 Need For Speed Most Wanted (Electronic Arts) - <20,936
17 (20) 3DS New Super Mario Bros. 2 (Nintendo)
18 (17) 360 Lego The Lord Of The Rings (Warner Bros. Interactive)
19 (18) WII Skylanders Giants (Activision Blizzard) - <18,578
20 (__) PS3 Wwe '13 (Thq) - <16,045
21 (29) 360 The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim (Bethesda Softworks)
22 (22) PS3 Book Of Spells (Sony Computer Ent.)
23 (21) 360 Forza Horizon (Microsoft)
24 (30) 360 Forza Motorsport 4 (Microsoft)
25 (26) NDS Moshi Monsters: Moshlings Theme Park (Mind Candy)
26 (28) 360 Skylanders Giants (Activision Blizzard) - <10,556
27 (11) WiiU Nintendo Land (Nintendo)
28 (__) WII Just Dance Disney Party (Ubisoft)
29 (33) 3DS Mario Kart 7 (Nintendo)
30 (31) PS3 Lego The Lord Of The Rings (Warner Bros. Interactive)
31 (37) 360 Medal Of Honor: Warfighter (Electronic Arts)
32 (35) 3DS Professor Layton And The Miracle Mask (Nintendo)
33 (23) WII Lego The Lord Of The Rings (Warner Bros. Interactive)
34 (__) PS3 Medal Of Honor: Warfighter (Electronic Arts)
35 (40) 3DS Super Mario 3d Land (Nintendo)
36 (14) WiiU New Super Mario Bros. U (Nintendo)
37 (25) 360 Dishonored (Bethesda Softworks)
38 (__) 360 Dance Central 2 (Microsoft)
39 (__) 360 F1 2012 (Codemasters)
40 (__) 3DS Paper Mario Sticker Star (Nintendo)
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: maxy on December 11, 2012, 03:04:56 AM
Famitsu numbers,slightly different from that French stuff

Wii U - 308,570
NSMBU - 170,563
MH3G HD Ver. - 110,149
Nintendo Land - 78,461

http://www.famitsu.com/news/201212/11025760.html
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Tasty on December 11, 2012, 03:08:15 AM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on December 11, 2012, 03:04:24 AM
Quote from: Premium Lager on December 11, 2012, 02:33:04 AM
What are the odds of Ninty hitting one out of the park next year? A mario with rayman quality visuals, im not talking some core new ip even lol.

Zero.  We might see a very pretty 3d Mario game though.

I'd pay full price for SMG1+2 HD collection while EAD Tokyo works their magic on a true sequel. Even though they've had problems with Dolphin, they still look fantastic in HD.

(http://i.imgur.com/Ysb6F.jpg)

(http://i.minus.com/ijtXqscBi5d7R.png)
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Phoenix Dark on December 11, 2012, 03:18:56 AM
So...that's not bad but not great. I guess the question is how will it sell in the coming weeks/months there, with no software on the horizon.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on December 11, 2012, 06:40:54 AM
So the top selling Wiiu game in week 2 in the uk is doing sub 10k.

Andrex Mario Galaxy looks pretty barren in HD, you can def see its GcN era hardware uprezzed.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: ToxicAdam on December 11, 2012, 09:15:38 AM
Nintendo cares about 5-12 year olds and their parents. When it comes time for parents to buy their child a gaming console, Nintendo is going to get them because they will always be cheaper and will have more games that appeal to them (both the parents and the kids).

The only people that are delusional are the twenty-somethings that still thinks Nintendo cares about them. They will gladly take their money .. but they aren't going to cater their buisness plans  to their wants/needs anymore.


It's not a bad business model if you think about it. Get 'em while they are young and then get them when they are old and are feeling nostalgic or want to share that nostalgia with their children.


 


 
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: ToxicAdam on December 11, 2012, 10:26:20 AM
Considering that Nintendo's stock is around 9000, when it was at 70,000 at the height of the Wii craze in 2007 ... I would say shareholders are already prepared for the worst.

Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: bachikarn on December 11, 2012, 11:42:25 AM
Yeah, I don't think anyone expected Wii success, but I'm sure it is selling well below expectations as well.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: maxy on December 12, 2012, 08:28:51 AM
http://www.4gamer.net/games/117/G011794/20121212048/
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Great Rumbler on December 12, 2012, 10:30:19 AM
Quote from: maxy on December 12, 2012, 08:28:51 AM
http://www.4gamer.net/games/117/G011794/20121212048/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ytCEuuW2_A
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: maxy on December 12, 2012, 11:33:16 AM
Famitsu (top 30)
(http://i.imgur.com/n6rvN.png)

Go Vita!
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: ToxicAdam on December 19, 2012, 10:40:38 AM
Did 3DS get a price drop in Japan also? I'm kind of curious to see how it effects sales in the U.S. for December.



Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Don Flamenco on December 19, 2012, 11:18:26 AM
"Dreams 5 Yakuza, who do come true" 356 000 books. This 163 000, 300,000 8000 "New Super Mario Bros. U" Wii U is the body "sales ranking week +"
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: maxy on December 19, 2012, 11:49:07 AM
Learn Japanese,sucka.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Cascade on December 19, 2012, 12:16:35 PM
Weekly Japanese Sales

3DS sells a third of Vita's LTD in one week. Vita sells 14000 units in a holiday week.


Code: [Select]
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|System | This Week  | Last Week  | Last Year  |     YTD    |  Last YTD  |     LTD     |
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| 3DS # |    319.025 |    211.499 |    367.691 |  4.836.260 |  3.601.990 |   9.118.403 |
|  WIU  |    126.916 |    308.142 |            |    435.058 |            |     435.058 |
|  PS3  |     42.976 |     36.994 |     65.119 |  1.122.851 |  1.405.753 |   8.759.236 |
| PSP # |     33.002 |     19.637 |     64.468 |    791.854 |  1.915.285 |  19.521.238 |
|  PSV  |     14.446 |     11.039 |    324.859 |    649.081 |    324.859 |   1.089.067 |
|  WII  |     10.346 |      6.714 |     60.916 |    455.825 |    759.199 |  12.619.046 |
|  360  |      1.760 |      1.216 |      3.584 |     74.114 |    108.850 |   1.610.159 |
|  PS2  |      1.102 |        904 |      1.400 |     56.107 |     74.773 |  21.830.214 |
| NDS # |        541 |        424 |      9.155 |     67.524 |    637.589 |  32.876.010 |
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|  ALL  |    550.114 |    596.569 |    897.192 |  8.488.674 |  8.828.298 | 107.858.431 |
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| 3DSLL |    206.973 |    136.373 |            |  1.687.841 |            |   1.687.841 |
|  3DS  |    112.052 |     75.126 |    367.691 |  3.148.419 |  3.601.990 |   7.430.562 |
| DSiLL |        221 |        179 |      5.600 |     37.008 |    334.909 |   2.331.327 |
|  DSi  |        320 |        245 |      3.523 |     30.516 |    282.017 |   5.864.566 |
|  PSP  |     33.002 |     19.637 |     64.468 |    791.854 |  1.899.745 |  19.345.251 |
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Can someone take Vita out behind the shed and put him out of his misery?
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Great Rumbler on December 19, 2012, 12:19:03 PM
3DS has already passed the PS3 in LTD. :lol
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Tasty on December 19, 2012, 12:27:34 PM
Doomed.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on December 19, 2012, 03:32:18 PM
Japan is irrelevant Andrex so yeah congrats? Japans devs are right up there with eastern euro jank for most part so maybe you can get some c tier games on your ds.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Tasty on December 19, 2012, 04:18:04 PM
If liking C-tier Japanesey games is wrong, I don't wanna be right. :uguu
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Steve Contra on December 19, 2012, 04:23:34 PM
Quote from: Andrex on December 19, 2012, 04:18:04 PM
If liking C-tier Japanesey games is wrong, I don't wanna be right. :uguu
Liking C-Tier Japanese games these days means you're a pedo.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Tasty on December 19, 2012, 04:26:54 PM
Quote from: Steve Contra on December 19, 2012, 04:23:34 PM
Quote from: Andrex on December 19, 2012, 04:18:04 PM
If liking C-tier Japanesey games is wrong, I don't wanna be right. :uguu
Liking C-Tier Japanese games these days means you're a pedo.

:uguu
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Purple Filth on December 19, 2012, 04:40:02 PM
Quote from: Cascade on December 19, 2012, 12:16:35 PM
Weekly Japanese Sales

Can someone take Vita out behind the shed and put him out of his misery?

why would they when its already dead?
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: tiesto on December 19, 2012, 04:59:20 PM
Quote from: Premium Lager on December 19, 2012, 03:32:18 PM
Japan is irrelevant Andrex so yeah congrats? Japans devs are right up there with eastern euro jank for most part so maybe you can get some c tier games on your ds.

I expected better trolling from you, come on now Lager :P How is the second largest gaming market "irrelevant"?
Title: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Huff on December 19, 2012, 05:20:51 PM
I don't think that last sentence is right borys

Not that I'm agreeing that Japan is irrelevant
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Himu on December 19, 2012, 05:24:33 PM
Quote from: Borys on December 19, 2012, 05:06:57 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on December 19, 2012, 04:59:34 PM
Quote from: Premium Lager on December 19, 2012, 03:32:18 PM
Japan is irrelevant Andrex so yeah congrats? Japans devs are right up there with eastern euro jank for most part so maybe you can get some c tier games on your ds.

You know you're talking with gamers when one of the largest markets in the world (and still one of the largest producers of games) is irrelevant.

The sales numbers in Japan aren't that far from America's, what with how much the latter has weakened in the last few years.  Taking population size into account, it's considerably stronger than America's.  The companies themselves are financially healthier on the whole, too.

But gamers, I guess

Worst thing is he was not trolling but being serious.

C'mon, K, that is just a missed analysis on your part.

You cannot compare Japanase market to CoD sales in the West and say it is broken. FF/ DQ move around the same numbers in Japan alone as CoD does in the US alone.

Um. DQ maybe. But FF? In 2012? LOL.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on December 19, 2012, 05:41:20 PM
I wasnt talking sales bros but games and mindshare.

Maybe one in 15 games Ive played this gen is Japanese.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Himu on December 19, 2012, 05:47:54 PM
Well, that's just your taste. Though most of the games I play and enjoy now are western games, I wouldn't call Japanese irrelevant.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on December 19, 2012, 05:52:46 PM
I think so too, but lets be honest here, what greatness has come out of Japan this gen?

Square is a wreck, Nintendo is in shambles, Namco and Konami dont seem to make games anymore. Sega?

Two best games from nippon last 7 years have been Dead Rising and Demon/Dark Souls.

Now ofc this is my taste, but Japan looks on life support to me.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: tiesto on December 19, 2012, 06:05:54 PM
Best RPG with Xenoblade, best 3rd person shooter with Vanquish, best 3D character action with Bayonetta, best 2D fighting game with KOF XIII, best 3D fighting game with VF5, best 2D platformer with NSMBU, best 3D platformer with Mario Galaxy, best shmup with Mushihime-sama Futari. Also lots of random offbeat stuff like Tokyo Jungle, Resonance of Fate, Catherine, Every Extend Extra, Valkyrie Chronicles, 999.  Of course my taste in games is RPGs/platformers/fighting/shmup and I don't really care for FPS games, sandbox games, MMOs, RTS games, western RPGs or dungeon crawlers. Genres which are primary the domain of western devs.

Of course Japan is hurting in mindshare in the west, but that's because of false narratives being pushed by the western games press, a lack of faith in products from Japanese devs and their localization team (when was the last time you saw a non RE/non FF/non Nintendo Japanese game get TV commercials in the US or euroland?), a marketplace where handheld gaming dominates (in contrast to the west where nobody takes handheld gaming seriously), and a new more casual batch of game players coming in who are more interested in facebook farming games or (on the total opposite end) COD/Halo and nothing but COD/Halo... who won't be adventurous enough to pick up that obscure Japanese (or obscure Western) IP... people who in the past would have broadened their horizons and picked up something out of their comfort zone not being able to, due to the bad economy.

Square? Bravely Default and Type 0 are both reported to be excellent. The DQ7 remake is pretty ambitious considering the original is one of the longest games ever made and is now getting a total graphical overhaul. DQX was also quite a hit for the company. But unfortunately their localization sucks lately. Also FFXIII-2 wasn't half bad either.

Nintendo, in shambles? Well, the Wii-U may not being selling up to expectations but I would hardly call it being in shambles (Sony is doing FAR worse).

Namco makes plenty of games but a lot are anime adaptations that don't come out in Japan. But this gen has been pretty good for US Tales fans, and those games are generally pretty good. They also published both Dark Souls and Ni No Kuni, and released Tekken Tag 2 which is an awesome fighter oozing with content (and I'm generally not a Tekken guy).

Konami, no argument there :P Hopefully Ground Zeroes will be good.

Sega, they started off pretty strong with the Platinum deal, but their focus on going digital-only kinda sucks. Even though we got a fully-translated Monster World IV out of them, which is fucking amazing.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Himu on December 19, 2012, 06:08:50 PM
Quote from: Premium Lager on December 19, 2012, 05:52:46 PM
I think so too, but lets be honest here, what greatness has come out of Japan this gen?

Square is a wreck, Nintendo is in shambles, Namco and Konami dont seem to make games anymore. Sega?

Two best games from nippon last 7 years have been Dead Rising and Demon/Dark Souls.

Now ofc this is my taste, but Japan looks on life support to me.

Mario Galaxy is my gotg. *shrug*

PSP was my favorite system. *shrug*

Nintendo DS my second favorite system. *shrug*

Lots of Japanese games, just not all in one contained platform like in the past.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Tasty on December 19, 2012, 06:28:27 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on December 19, 2012, 04:59:34 PM
Quote from: Premium Lager on December 19, 2012, 03:32:18 PM
Japan is irrelevant Andrex so yeah congrats? Japans devs are right up there with eastern euro jank for most part so maybe you can get some c tier games on your ds.

You know you're talking with gamers when one of the largest markets in the world (and still one of the largest producers of games) is irrelevant.

The sales numbers in Japan aren't that far from America's, what with how much the latter has weakened in the last few years.  Taking population size into account, it's considerably stronger than America's.  The companies themselves are financially healthier on the whole, too.

But gamers, I guess

If 3DS was bombing in Japan but doing great in America it would suddenly be the most important market. ::)
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Trent Dole on December 19, 2012, 06:47:02 PM
Vita has 360 in its sights for LTD JP sales. :hyper
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Fifstar on December 19, 2012, 06:57:01 PM
Japanese developers need to get their shit regarding pc versions, good japanese games are the only thing I'm missing as a now pc only gamer. Things have gotten better slightly over the course of this generation but still not nearly good enough. I guess in a lot of cases it's just not viable, as typical pc gamers are rarely interested in japanese games but they still could/should try to build an audience.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Himu on December 19, 2012, 07:00:18 PM
Quote from: Fifstar on December 19, 2012, 06:57:01 PM
Japanese developers need to get their shit regarding pc versions, good japanese games are the only thing I'm missing as a now pc only gamer. Things have gotten better slightly over the course of this generation but still not nearly good enough. I guess in a lot of cases it's just not viable, as typical pc gamers are rarely interested in japanese games but they still could/should try to build an audience.

to be fair we just got nights on steam and platinum is said to be doing bayonetta and vanquish ports.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Tasty on December 19, 2012, 08:20:27 PM
Sonic CD and Gen too.

In fact Sega's been pretty awesome on PC. Not only porting them but going through Steam as well.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Himu on December 19, 2012, 08:26:21 PM
Sonic Generations and CD have been on steam for ages. Nights HD just came out last month but there was no steam version. Hoping for VF5FS or the AM2 Collection.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on December 20, 2012, 02:41:50 AM
Tiesto, not going into list wars but just to show how opposite my tastes are. Best rpg Fallout, best 2d platformer Super Meat Boy, best third person action game Gears, best 3d platformer Mirrors Edge. Not to forget all the Cod and Fifa :)


Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on December 19, 2012, 06:39:12 PM
Lager, dude, what has happened here is this:  other regions stepped their shit up considerably this gen, especially in the console market.  Before this gen, if you weren't on a PC, and you were a reasonably hardcore gamer, you pretty much had to be playing some Japanese games.  This gen, you could have your needs met and more without touching a Japanese game.  Which is pretty much what you did, Lager.  It's fairly telling which J-games you did list.  Like most gamers, your needs are met quite well by going where you're told to go, and this gen that roadmap only included a couple of stops in Japan.

Now, this is compounded by the fact that you don't really play handhelds, which is where a lot of Japan's focus has been this gen.  You're the western equivalent of a Japanese DS owner saying western developers are irrelevant.  It's a claim borne of ignorance, and that ignorance is fine, but the claim makes you look foolish.

You made me realise im pretty much a western games type of guy. My fav console last gen was the xbox cause of the western games. It all goes back to my childhood where I played Civ 1, Alone in the Dark etc before I played Mario.

But do I really follow a roadmap? I like to play whats good.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: archnemesis on December 20, 2012, 02:54:48 AM
Do you even play games on handheld systems, Lager? 95% of all the good games for the DS are Japanese without any exaggeration.

I'm also primarily a PC gamer, but Japanese developers are still doing a great job in many genres.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Himu on December 20, 2012, 02:59:47 AM
Yeah, Lager didn't even mention dedicated handheld systems like psp and ds.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: archnemesis on December 20, 2012, 03:05:44 AM
If his argument is that western developers make better PC games, then sure, I'm with him.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on December 20, 2012, 03:19:22 AM
I've had two DS'es and two PSP's.

But I really don't remember what I played on them. I know I finished FF3, tried Ace Attorney (didnt really like that), Advance Wars ofcourse. Played some Syphon Filter, Burnout, Wipeout, Tekken. But I kind of stopped playing on handhelds.

I played  bunch of Vita stuff for work though Wipeout, Sound Shapes, LBP.

I played loads of Game Dev Story on my phone.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Himu on December 20, 2012, 03:43:53 AM
I don't...really have a road map. I mean, there are some games I may prefer over others, but my interest is all over the place these days.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: MCD on December 20, 2012, 03:48:42 AM
I think I played like...15 games on my DS. 5 Phoenix Wright games and 3 Castlevanias...and some others.

It sucked. And the RPGs sucked as much. Fucking dungeon crawlers and BAD graphics everywhere.

PSP was for ports and flashing firmware then Ys came and saved it for me.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: MCD on December 20, 2012, 03:52:17 AM
And Dragon Quest? I'd rather play hentai games over that outdated garbage.

Same goes for Pokémon.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: archnemesis on December 20, 2012, 03:55:52 AM
I currently have 42 DS games (http://backloggery.com/games.php?user=archnemesis&console=NDS) and there are maybe 20 more I want to pick up eventually. Despite having terrible graphics compared to other modern systems, most of the games are quite enjoyable. The stylus controls added a lot to games like Etrian Odyssey, Professor Layton and Inazuma Eleven.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on December 20, 2012, 04:37:42 AM
Holy fuck Oscar. Fuck a roadmap you just buy in bulk  :)
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: MCD on December 20, 2012, 04:50:19 AM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on December 20, 2012, 04:33:04 AM
I can't imagine what kind of person is fucking looking forward to Lightning Returns but calls Dragon Quest garbage, but hey, gamers, so
(http://i.minus.com/iOYF1vPnsYjll.gif)

I sold all my Pokémon collection because I got tired of the same old same shit and DQ is no different.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: MCD on December 20, 2012, 04:52:46 AM
In fact, I played Sands of Destruction over any DQ games. That's how bad they are.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Damian79 on December 20, 2012, 05:53:53 AM
Wow it is like the personification of bad taste.  SoD over DQ really?
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: DCharlieJP on December 20, 2012, 06:39:11 AM
Quote
currently have 42 DS games and there are maybe 20 more I want to pick up eventually. Despite having terrible graphics compared to other modern systems, most of the games are quite enjoyable. The stylus controls added a lot to games like Etrian Odyssey, Professor Layton and Inazuma Eleven.

... This reads like a low key days shopping so I'm baffled why this is being brought up

</cuntmodeoff>
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: archnemesis on December 20, 2012, 06:44:31 AM
Even though I buy way too many games, I try to be picky with what I pick up. The naive part of me still believes I will have time to complete everything.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: maxy on December 20, 2012, 06:52:41 AM
I would say that Japan is as irrelevant as Nintendo these days.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: maxy on December 20, 2012, 07:06:11 AM
Currently playing Dragonborn + Far Cry 3,didn't play Halo 4

Also
The Last Remnant>>>>FF shit
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on December 20, 2012, 07:34:25 AM
Wait Ill just make  seperate thread lets not think shit up SALES TALK (sic!)
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: maxy on December 20, 2012, 08:46:34 AM
Do we?

My opinion,purely from the Western standpoint

Nintendo and Japan are both fairly healthy,they have its problems by they are far away from crashing.

If you want to play Nintendo games,you have to buy Nintendo console...everything else can be easily obtained on other platforms,mind few third party anomalies  like Bayonetta 2

If you want to play Japanese games you have to move to Japan/learn Japanese or stay in the West/learn Japanese and pay outrages prices for import hardware and software...games like Mario,MGS,FF,Dark Souls,etc excluded

Japan/Nintendo are both doing its own thing(handhelds/Nintendo games).

I think lots of those things can be said about the West from Japan standpoint.Healthy is certainly not the one,though.

Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Damian79 on December 20, 2012, 09:58:55 AM
Quote from: maxy on December 20, 2012, 07:06:11 AM
The Last Remnant>>>>FF shit

I agree.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Tasty on December 20, 2012, 12:09:45 PM
"Best 3D platformer Mirror's Edge"

???

Quote from: Damian79 on December 20, 2012, 05:53:53 AM
Wow it is like the personification of bad taste.  SoD over DQ really?

He likes WP7, that should have tipped you off.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: tiesto on December 20, 2012, 12:28:02 PM
Mirror's Edge is fucking amazing and one of the best games I've played all gen, but for some reason whenever we talk about 3D platformers I always skip it... I guess my mind always associates the game with being more of an FPS than a platformer, even though it's technically much closer to the latter.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: MCD on December 20, 2012, 01:19:10 PM
Stop being a kid, Andrex.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: ToxicAdam on December 20, 2012, 01:23:29 PM
If you deny Andrex his inner toddler, he might disappear.

Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Rahxephon91 on December 20, 2012, 01:24:34 PM
Quote from: maxy on December 20, 2012, 07:06:11 AM

The Last Remnant>>>>FF shit
I remember this game. I tried to play it on my xbox and it ran worse then Oblvion when on a hoarse. I then tried it on my PC and realized it was a shit game anyway.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Steve Youngblood on December 20, 2012, 01:27:34 PM
Quote from: Andrex on December 20, 2012, 12:09:45 PM
"Best 3D platformer Mirror's Edge"

???

Not that I agree it's the best or anything, but why are you challenging this when we all know you've never played Mirror's Edge, as it wasn't a Wii game.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Tasty on December 20, 2012, 01:40:23 PM
Quote from: Steve Youngblood on December 20, 2012, 01:27:34 PM
Quote from: Andrex on December 20, 2012, 12:09:45 PM
"Best 3D platformer Mirror's Edge"

???

Not that I agree it's the best or anything, but why are you challenging this when we all know you've never played Mirror's Edge, as it wasn't a Wii game.

It's on PC though, so I could have played it. I didn't because it didn't appeal to me at the time.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Steve Youngblood on December 20, 2012, 01:42:11 PM
Quote from: Andrex on December 20, 2012, 01:40:23 PM
Quote from: Steve Youngblood on December 20, 2012, 01:27:34 PM
Quote from: Andrex on December 20, 2012, 12:09:45 PM
"Best 3D platformer Mirror's Edge"

???

Not that I agree it's the best or anything, but why are you challenging this when we all know you've never played Mirror's Edge, as it wasn't a Wii game.

It's on PC though, so I could have played it. I didn't because it didn't appeal to me at the time.

We all know that you don't really play PC games except for emulated Dolphin stuff. Again, though, you didn't play it. So, why the emoticon as though it was a baffling statement?
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: maxy on December 20, 2012, 01:50:27 PM
Quote from: Rahxephon91 on December 20, 2012, 01:24:34 PM
Quote from: maxy on December 20, 2012, 07:06:11 AM

The Last Remnant>>>>FF shit
I remember this game. I tried to play it on my xbox and it ran worse then Oblvion when on a hoarse. I then tried it on my PC and realized it was a shit game anyway.

It runs decent if you install.Performace didn't bother me much because it has looooong turn based battles  :heartbeat

Hopefully some day it gets ported to iOS so people can enjoy this masterpiece.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: DCharlieJP on December 20, 2012, 01:50:49 PM
Quote
and Japan are both fairly healthy,they have its problems by they are far away from crashing.

Japan is fairly healthy?

Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: maxy on December 20, 2012, 01:58:15 PM
Compared to the disaster called Western market,yes.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on December 20, 2012, 02:36:20 PM
Pff Andrex Ive never judged Galaxy cause Ive never played it, but since everyone loves it id like to try it too someday. You dismissing ME just like that is really weird, especially since its one of the very few really unique games this gen.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Tasty on December 20, 2012, 02:37:50 PM
Quote from: Steve Youngblood on December 20, 2012, 01:42:11 PM
Quote from: Andrex on December 20, 2012, 01:40:23 PM
Quote from: Steve Youngblood on December 20, 2012, 01:27:34 PM
Quote from: Andrex on December 20, 2012, 12:09:45 PM
"Best 3D platformer Mirror's Edge"

???

Not that I agree it's the best or anything, but why are you challenging this when we all know you've never played Mirror's Edge, as it wasn't a Wii game.

It's on PC though, so I could have played it. I didn't because it didn't appeal to me at the time.

We all know that you don't really play PC games except for emulated Dolphin stuff. Again, though, you didn't play it. So, why the emoticon as though it was a baffling statement?

Actually I've barely used Dolphin this gen but I have dabbled in Steam.

Who cares? I wasn't impugning your dear Mirror's Edge's quality, I was just confused it was called a platformer. I get that it's big on the run and jumpy, but being in first person kind of precludes the kind of precision I associate with the genre, unless there's some kind of secondary mechanic that lets you know where your feet are going to land.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Trent Dole on December 20, 2012, 02:44:11 PM
blah blah topic not supposed to be about whether or not andrex is a stupid whiny attention whorey cunt or not
/backseatmod
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: tiesto on December 20, 2012, 02:49:27 PM
Quote from: Premium Lager on December 20, 2012, 02:36:20 PM
Pff Andrex Ive never judged Galaxy cause Ive never played it, but since everyone loves it id like to try it too someday. You dismissing ME just like that is really weird, especially since its one of the very few really unique games this gen.

How could you slag off Japan if you haven't played lots of their best games this gen? :P
It'd be like me saying the western console market is horrible when the only thing I've played this year from that market was Mass Effect 3.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Tasty on December 20, 2012, 02:50:04 PM
Quote from: Trent Dole on December 20, 2012, 02:44:11 PM
blah blah topic not supposed to be about whether or not andrex is a stupid whiny attention whorey cunt or not
/backseatmod

It only looks like attention whoring because dopes constantly give it to me over the stupidist stuff. I don't solicit it.  :-*

You'd think they'd have gotten tired of it by now but welp

Quote from: tiesto on December 20, 2012, 02:49:27 PM
Quote from: Premium Lager on December 20, 2012, 02:36:20 PM
Pff Andrex Ive never judged Galaxy cause Ive never played it, but since everyone loves it id like to try it too someday. You dismissing ME just like that is really weird, especially since its one of the very few really unique games this gen.

How could you slag off Japan if you haven't played lots of their best games this gen? :P
It'd be like me saying the western console market is horrible when the only thing I've played this year from that market was Mass Effect 3.

Judging games you haven't played is A-OK if those games are Japanese. :spin
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: D3RANG3D on December 20, 2012, 03:08:30 PM
Quote from: Rahxephon91 on December 20, 2012, 01:24:34 PM
Quote from: maxy on December 20, 2012, 07:06:11 AM

The Last Remnant>>>>FF shit
I remember this game. I tried to play it on my xbox and it ran worse then Oblvion when on a hoarse. I then tried it on my PC and realized it was a shit game anyway.

You don't like it because it's too complicated and is actually a game.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Stoney Mason on December 20, 2012, 03:24:03 PM
Quote from: Premium Lager on December 20, 2012, 07:34:25 AM
Wait Ill just make  seperate thread lets not think shit up SALES TALK (sic!)

This.

What does any of this shit have to do with the only sales thread on this board.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: DCharlieJP on December 20, 2012, 05:52:35 PM
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Compared to the disaster called Western market,yes.

oh Maxy - i think you should reevaluate - Japan isn't in a particularly great state (as a country)

Anyways, at least something is selling well, so that's a good sign i guess.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Tasty on December 24, 2012, 02:55:21 AM
Media Create (Dec 10-16)

3DS: 319k
Wii U: 126k
PS3: 42k
PSP: 33k
Vita: 14k
Wii: 10k
360: 1.7k

1. (3DS) Inazuma Eleven Go 2: Chrono Stone - 168k / NEW
2. (3DS) Animal Crossing: New Leaf - 151k / 1.45m (+70%)
3. (3DS) Paper Mario: Sticker Star - 92k / 221k (-28%)
4. (PS3) Yakuza 5 - 82k / 439k (-77%)
5. (Wii U) New Super Mario Bros. U - 71k / 234k (-57%)
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Rahxephon91 on December 24, 2012, 02:58:52 AM
Quote from: D3RANG3D on December 20, 2012, 03:08:30 PM
Quote from: Rahxephon91 on December 20, 2012, 01:24:34 PM
Quote from: maxy on December 20, 2012, 07:06:11 AM

The Last Remnant>>>>FF shit
I remember this game. I tried to play it on my xbox and it ran worse then Oblvion when on a hoarse. I then tried it on my PC and realized it was a shit game anyway.

You don't like it because it's too complicated and is actually a game.
You consider it complicated? The pc version even makes the game easier.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on December 24, 2012, 06:10:41 AM
37 (__) 360 Dance Central 3 (Microsoft)
38 (__) 360 Dead Island Goty Edition (Koch Media)
39 (40) PS3 Medal Of Honor: Warfighter (Electronic Arts)
40 (35) WiiU Nintendo Land (Nintendo)

Nintendo killing it in the UK for xmas  :lol
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Third on December 24, 2012, 07:10:54 AM
Nintendo Land is also bundled with the Premium sku. Bundled games count as sold too.
The premium sku seems to sell more than the standard sku.

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Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on December 24, 2012, 08:42:46 AM
Yeah it couldnt be any more bomba.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: maxy on December 24, 2012, 09:36:15 AM
Quote
31 (31) PSV Call Of Duty: Black Ops Declassified (Activision Blizzard)
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Eel O'Brian on December 24, 2012, 09:53:41 AM
even worse, it's being outsold by a game that's over a year old
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on December 24, 2012, 09:56:28 AM
Quote from: maxy on December 24, 2012, 09:36:15 AM
Quote
31 (31) PSV Call Of Duty: Black Ops Declassified (Activision Blizzard)

Posting this is just mean to Andrex man.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Himu on December 24, 2012, 05:13:36 PM
This is glorious. Can't wait for next year for nintendo to damage.control and go into.SERIOUS NINTENDO.MODE as next box is released and massacres wii u worldwide.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Third on December 25, 2012, 06:31:57 AM
Vgchartz is reporting that the wiiu has already sold 1.8mln units worldwide

(http://i.minus.com/iEshHB0CoYI1j.gif)
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Don Flamenco on December 25, 2012, 08:43:41 AM
i asked the kids at the xmas gathering last night if they wanted a WiiU--
2 said "meh"
1 said "no, i've got an xbox and an iphone"
1 said "what's a wiiu" 

of course, 3 of them didn't know what my vita was and the other just wanted to play Dissidia on it :'(

The adults were all like "wow, they make a portable playstation now?!  what will they come up with next?" 
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: archie4208 on December 25, 2012, 08:47:18 AM
But does the dog have shifty eyes? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T55ArHjeR1c)  You can't trust him.

Looks like it's a wash.
Title: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Huff on December 25, 2012, 09:15:07 AM
Need to know what type of dog it is before I make a decision 
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Joe Molotov on December 25, 2012, 09:53:03 AM
Quote from: Don Flamenco on December 25, 2012, 08:43:41 AM
i asked the kids at the xmas gathering last night if they wanted a WiiU--
2 said "meh"
1 said "no, i've got an xbox and an iphone"
1 said "what's a wiiu" 

of course, 3 of them didn't know what my vita was and the other just wanted to play Dissidia on it :'(

The adults were all like "wow, they make a portable playstation now?!  what will they come up with next?" 

Good job fighting the good fight, educating the filthy masses about the wonders of the Vita.  :american
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Don Flamenco on December 25, 2012, 10:10:33 AM
they didn't care.  it's like my power point presentation didn't even exist!
Title: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Huff on December 25, 2012, 11:57:17 AM
Vidya game players the huff house hold got this Xmas

2 iPhone 5
2 iPad 4
0 3DS
0 vita
0 wiiu
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Tasty on December 25, 2012, 12:10:48 PM
Quote from: Joe Molotov on December 25, 2012, 09:53:03 AM
Quote from: Don Flamenco on December 25, 2012, 08:43:41 AM
i asked the kids at the xmas gathering last night if they wanted a WiiU--
2 said "meh"
1 said "no, i've got an xbox and an iphone"
1 said "what's a wiiu" 

of course, 3 of them didn't know what my vita was and the other just wanted to play Dissidia on it :'(

The adults were all like "wow, they make a portable playstation now?!  what will they come up with next?" 

Good job fighting the good fight, educating the filthy masses about the wonders of the Vita.  :american

And the Wii U. :american
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on December 25, 2012, 12:42:45 PM
Andrex how do you see Nintendo's 2013 in the West?
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Third on December 26, 2012, 08:32:11 AM
New media create

Quote
3DS - 411.272
WiiU - 122.843 
PSP - 65.859
PS3 - 47.626
PSV - 21.266
WII - 13.049
360 - 1.689
PS2 -   928
NDS - 745 

Everything rising, except for Ps2, X360 and WiiU  :lol
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on December 26, 2012, 09:41:09 AM
Is this xmas week in japan?
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: archnemesis on December 26, 2012, 09:48:01 AM
Yes (Dec 17 to Dec 23), but next week is also important in Japan because of the New Year celebration.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on December 26, 2012, 09:50:23 AM
All joking about nintendo aside I wonder how Sony feels that a year in vita is still getting outsold by the psp.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: archnemesis on December 26, 2012, 09:55:58 AM
I bet they're worried about the PS4.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Third on December 26, 2012, 10:52:50 AM
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=45776912&postcount=292

benjipwns, is this you?
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: maxy on December 26, 2012, 12:07:29 PM
Best Buy:Nintendo Wii U Console Basic Set and Free Nintendo Land Game...$299 (http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Nintendo+Wii+U+Console+Basic+Set+and+Free+Nintendo+Land+Game/9999196000050006.p?PID=1312731&id=pcmprd195200050006&ref=39&loc=01&URL=http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?id=pcmprd195200050006&skuId=9999196000050006&type=product&AID=10597222&skuId=9999196000050006&CJPID=1727731)
 :violin
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: bork on December 26, 2012, 12:59:10 PM
How about $239.99 for the system without that shitty minigame collection?
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Don Flamenco on December 26, 2012, 01:07:40 PM
how about ~$179, once it has more than just a Mario game and once Nintendo completely changes the way they handle DD.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Positive Touch on December 26, 2012, 01:11:59 PM
HOW ABOUT NO
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: DCharlieJP on December 26, 2012, 01:25:34 PM
Quote
Everything rising, except for Ps2, X360 and WiiU

guys, it's because the Wii U is sold out everywhere*






* - "sold out" is the japanese phrase for "in stock"

Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Don Flamenco on December 26, 2012, 01:28:26 PM
that vita number is still so sad...they better hope Soul Sacrifice is the next Monster Hunter or something.   

PR: "Vita sales up 500%!"
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: maxy on December 26, 2012, 01:42:16 PM
4 weeks combined
Quote
3DS - 1.109.204
Wii U - 557.901
PS3 - 157.405
PSP - 134.439
PS Vita - 57.817
Wii - 35.659
Xbox 360 - 5.882
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Don Flamenco on December 26, 2012, 02:28:25 PM
that's pretty funny.

but GBA beating the PS3 was GOAT sales results
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: maxy on December 26, 2012, 03:29:33 PM
hehehe

Quote
Famitsu:

360 WK 51, 2006 - 19,511
PSV WK 51, 2012 - 19,056
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Purple Filth on December 26, 2012, 04:20:55 PM
Quote from: maxy on December 26, 2012, 12:07:29 PM
Best Buy:Nintendo Wii U Console Basic Set and Free Nintendo Land Game...$299 (http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Nintendo+Wii+U+Console+Basic+Set+and+Free+Nintendo+Land+Game/9999196000050006.p?PID=1312731&id=pcmprd195200050006&ref=39&loc=01&URL=http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?id=pcmprd195200050006&skuId=9999196000050006&type=product&AID=10597222&skuId=9999196000050006&CJPID=1727731)
 :violin

Tard Pack?  :lol


Quote from: maxy on December 26, 2012, 03:29:33 PM
hehehe

Quote
Famitsu:

360 WK 51, 2006 - 19,511
PSV WK 51, 2012 - 19,056

damning  :o
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Fifstar on December 26, 2012, 04:29:33 PM
I feel Wii U sales are still okay for Nintendo, even if it is down for the week. Won't change that the sales are going to tank in Japan as much as elsewhere come january.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Don Flamenco on December 26, 2012, 04:30:18 PM
Quote from: maxy on December 26, 2012, 03:29:33 PM
hehehe

Quote
Famitsu:

360 WK 51, 2006 - 19,511
PSV WK 51, 2012 - 19,056


are we sure that wasn't Idolmaster or Tales of Vesperia release week?   :-\

RIP Vita, you weren't long for this world, but it wasn't your fault  :'(
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: maxy on December 26, 2012, 04:47:49 PM
Quote from: Don Flamenco on December 26, 2012, 04:30:18 PM
Quote from: maxy on December 26, 2012, 03:29:33 PM
hehehe

Quote
Famitsu:

360 WK 51, 2006 - 19,511
PSV WK 51, 2012 - 19,056


are we sure that wasn't Idolmaster or Tales of Vesperia release week?   :-\

RIP Vita, you weren't long for this world, but it wasn't your fault  :'(
Blue Dragon,week 49
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Don Flamenco on December 26, 2012, 04:53:01 PM
that's some small consolation.  When a system doesn't have DS or PSP-like momentum in Japan, you still get these bursts when certain games come out.  P4G for vita was one of those.  Bunch of 360 titles were too.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Purple Filth on December 26, 2012, 05:04:33 PM
Quote from: Don Flamenco on December 26, 2012, 04:30:18 PM
Quote from: maxy on December 26, 2012, 03:29:33 PM
hehehe

Quote
Famitsu:

360 WK 51, 2006 - 19,511
PSV WK 51, 2012 - 19,056


are we sure that wasn't Idolmaster or Tales of Vesperia release week?   :-\

RIP Vita, you weren't long for this world, but it wasn't your fault  :'(

After using it for a while now i agree with this. A damn shame  :maf

Quote from: maxy on December 26, 2012, 04:47:49 PM
Quote from: Don Flamenco on December 26, 2012, 04:30:18 PM
Quote from: maxy on December 26, 2012, 03:29:33 PM
hehehe

Quote
Famitsu:

360 WK 51, 2006 - 19,511
PSV WK 51, 2012 - 19,056


are we sure that wasn't Idolmaster or Tales of Vesperia release week?   :-\

RIP Vita, you weren't long for this world, but it wasn't your fault   :'(
Blue Dragon,week 49

that explains it but for a system to be in such a state is sad to see
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Don Flamenco on December 26, 2012, 05:17:19 PM
Quote from: Purple Filth on December 26, 2012, 05:04:33 PM
Quote from: Don Flamenco on December 26, 2012, 04:30:18 PM
Quote from: maxy on December 26, 2012, 03:29:33 PM
hehehe

Quote
Famitsu:

360 WK 51, 2006 - 19,511
PSV WK 51, 2012 - 19,056


are we sure that wasn't Idolmaster or Tales of Vesperia release week?   :-\

RIP Vita, you weren't long for this world, but it wasn't your fault  :'(

After using it for a while now i agree with this. A damn shame  :maf



I know, right?!   I'm thinking it might be some of my favorite hardware ever, with a nice and simple UI.   
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on December 26, 2012, 06:15:17 PM
The Vita was too beautiful for this world :gloomy
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on December 26, 2012, 07:10:10 PM
Its so sad cause vita is so good, prob the best dedicated handheld ever going to be made.

Still I wouldnt buy one unless its like 99.

Fuckin Sony hit a homerun with the hardware no one cares about.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on December 26, 2012, 07:50:45 PM
But dc surely those japanese cant tell the difference between a re-release and a new game. They so crazy japanese kawaii. They so different.

(Based on me watching 3x3 eyes once and Lost in Translation and Hard Gay)
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: DCharlieJP on December 26, 2012, 07:56:07 PM
I like the poster May12th or whatever his name is in the sales thread - "i'm not the Mars Rover" put down was Epic levels.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Don Flamenco on December 26, 2012, 08:03:27 PM
Quote from: Premium Lager on December 26, 2012, 07:10:10 PM
Its so sad cause vita is so good, prob the best dedicated handheld ever going to be made.

Still I wouldnt buy one unless its like 99.

Fuckin Sony hit a homerun with the hardware no one cares about.


they're not totally blameless though.   i love BC and all, but they gotta actually announce stuff to get people excited.  it's not an apple product that just sells itself.   Get some hats, fill them with money.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Damian79 on December 26, 2012, 09:51:00 PM
Nintendo and Sony need to merge.  Sony makes the hardware, Nintendo makes the software.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on December 26, 2012, 10:00:39 PM
sony makes better games imho, nintendo just makes more polished games and kiddy games. combine the two, but dont let nintendo touch any ahrdware or ui just have them make games
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Damian79 on December 26, 2012, 10:04:15 PM
Other than uncharted and wipe out what what does Sony actually make internally?
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Don Flamenco on December 26, 2012, 10:19:01 PM
nintendo could contribute only games, hands off everything else. 
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Damian79 on December 26, 2012, 10:19:36 PM
That is a pretty good list actually.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: DCharlieJP on December 26, 2012, 11:24:39 PM
I'd be all over a Motorstorm game (that's not RC) on the Vita. First game was over rated to hell and back but the second game in particular was good solid fun (if a bit broken in the late stages)
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Purple Filth on December 26, 2012, 11:51:05 PM
Quote from: Don Flamenco on December 26, 2012, 05:17:19 PM
I know, right?!   I'm thinking it might be some of my favorite hardware ever, with a nice and simple UI.

I think the UI is kinda endearing and whoever wanted a xmb interface on this thing is smoking the worse kind of shit imo.

The UI is not without faults though (why the hell are group messaging,  party, friends and trophies separate "apps"?)

Quote from: Don Flamenco on December 26, 2012, 08:03:27 PM
Quote from: Premium Lager on December 26, 2012, 07:10:10 PM
Its so sad cause vita is so good, prob the best dedicated handheld ever going to be made.

Still I wouldnt buy one unless its like 99.

Fuckin Sony hit a homerun with the hardware no one cares about.


they're not totally blameless though.   i love BC and all, but they gotta actually announce stuff to get people excited.  it's not an apple product that just sells itself.   Get some hats, fill them with money.


What money though  :P



Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on December 26, 2012, 10:24:31 PM
Quote from: Don Flamenco on December 26, 2012, 10:19:01 PM
nintendo could contribute only games, hands off everything else.

Oh, I think they could improve on Sony's UI designs a bit too.  Not that Nintendo is particularly good at it, but Sony is awful at it.  That new PSN shop is somehow even worse than the previous one.


The loading of the store (especially that initial load) is pretty damn sluggish and the search is distinguished mentally-challenged.

Looks great though  :lol


Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Himu on December 27, 2012, 12:09:29 AM
Quote from: Damian79 on December 26, 2012, 10:04:15 PM
Other than uncharted and wipe out what what does Sony actually make internally?

rofl are you fucking joking?

sony does not get enough credit as a first party dev
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: pilonv1 on December 27, 2012, 06:58:53 AM
Quote from: DCharlieJP on December 26, 2012, 11:24:39 PM
I'd be all over a Motorstorm game (that's not RC) on the Vita. First game was over rated to hell and back but the second game in particular was good solid fun (if a bit broken in the late stages)

It's interesting to see how they put almost every one of their console franchises on PSP (and even dusted off some old ones like Syphon Filter) but don't seem to be doing that for Vita (yet).
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Tasty on December 27, 2012, 08:27:33 AM
Automatic preprogrammed ninthing excuse process I'm trying to suppress says:

- New platform
- Install base
- Crap marketing for the previous Wii installments
- Came out earlier on PS360, diehards won't wait
- Install base

bzzt, end of line.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Cascade on December 27, 2012, 08:28:47 AM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on December 27, 2012, 08:13:03 AM
Seems like the action plan during the early psp days was to dust off some of the old big franchises from the ps1 era that weren't quite working out on PS2, then as time went on, bring more PS2 and even a few PS3 franchises on it.  Vita seemed to avoid this, relying more on PS3 IPs than anything else.

I finally took some time to really look over the last NPD numbers.  Man, the WiiU is a joke.  Like, as craptacular as the PS Vita big hitters did (and man did they do craptacular, weep for P4), they outsold almost everything on the WiiU.  The PS3 version of Blops 2 literally sold more than 100x the WiiU version.
P4>30k?
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on December 27, 2012, 08:32:48 AM
When will we get december npd?
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on December 27, 2012, 08:36:30 AM
I know its sad but I cant wait.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Eel O'Brian on December 27, 2012, 09:06:51 AM
problem with the vita ui is that it's mostly just a lot of wasted space, they should have the option for a list view
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Tasty on December 27, 2012, 10:09:44 AM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on December 27, 2012, 08:42:31 AM
Quote from: Andrex on December 27, 2012, 08:27:33 AM
Automatic preprogrammed ninthing excuse process I'm trying to suppress says:

- New platform
- Install base
- Crap marketing for the previous Wii installments
- Came out earlier on PS360, diehards won't wait
- Install base

bzzt, end of line.

sold about half of CoDBlops Vita stand-alone SKU.

- Says a lot about Vita owners' desperation and/or their bad taste
- Says something about the marketing for the Wii U version
- Blops Vita was day and date with PS360PC versions, Wii U wasn't
- ...install base?

Bzzt. EOL.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on December 27, 2012, 10:26:58 AM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on December 27, 2012, 08:42:31 AM
Quote from: Andrex on December 27, 2012, 08:27:33 AM
Automatic preprogrammed ninthing excuse process I'm trying to suppress says:

- New platform
- Install base
- Crap marketing for the previous Wii installments
- Came out earlier on PS360, diehards won't wait
- Install base

bzzt, end of line.

sold about half of CoDBlops Vita stand-alone SKU.

thats bad  :lol
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Third on December 27, 2012, 10:50:37 AM
I'd love it if Sony and Nintendo were to produce a console together. Let Sony do the hardware. No Nintendo employees allowed when it comes to hardware architecture. NONE
Both make good games. The exclusives list would be amazing. Sony would also do the online structure.

The console would be great.

Quote from: Borys on December 27, 2012, 08:33:37 AM
You wanna see Wii U go down in flames? Wait for the January one.

 8)
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Purple Filth on December 27, 2012, 10:56:54 AM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on December 27, 2012, 08:42:31 AM
Quote from: Andrex on December 27, 2012, 08:27:33 AM
Automatic preprogrammed ninthing excuse process I'm trying to suppress says:

- New platform
- Install base
- Crap marketing for the previous Wii installments
- Came out earlier on PS360, diehards won't wait
- Install base

bzzt, end of line.

sold about half of CoDBlops Vita stand-alone SKU.


 :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: lunchwithyuzo on December 27, 2012, 12:58:21 PM
Quote from: DCharlieJP on December 26, 2012, 01:25:34 PM
Quote
Everything rising, except for Ps2, X360 and WiiU

guys, it's because the Wii U is sold out everywhere*






* - "sold out" is the japanese phrase for "in stock"
Oh, so this is why you said "tons of stock" 1st week.  Makes sense now. :)


Quote from: Don Flamenco on December 26, 2012, 10:19:01 PM
nintendo could contribute only games, hands off everything else.
Thanks but no thanks.  The world doesn't need a $300 Nintendo handheld with $100 memory cards.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Momo on December 27, 2012, 01:02:37 PM
Quote from: lunchwithyuzo on December 27, 2012, 12:58:21 PM
Thanks but no thanks.  The world doesn't need a $300 Nintendo handheld with $100 memory cards.
You must be blissfully unaware that both the Vita and 3DS launched at $249
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: lunchwithyuzo on December 27, 2012, 01:04:53 PM
Quote from: Momo on December 27, 2012, 01:02:37 PM
Quote from: lunchwithyuzo on December 27, 2012, 12:58:21 PM
Thanks but no thanks.  The world doesn't need a $300 Nintendo handheld with $100 memory cards.
You must be blissfully unaware that both the Vita and 3DS launched at $249
Only the tard packs. 

My Ninthing imperative took over so I bought a launch 3DS, but the world didn't need a $250 Nintendo handheld either.  I hope Iwata learned his lesson.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Cascade on December 27, 2012, 01:09:58 PM
Quote from: lunchwithyuzo on December 27, 2012, 01:04:53 PM
Quote from: Momo on December 27, 2012, 01:02:37 PM
Quote from: lunchwithyuzo on December 27, 2012, 12:58:21 PM
Thanks but no thanks.  The world doesn't need a $300 Nintendo handheld with $100 memory cards.
You must be blissfully unaware that both the Vita and 3DS launched at $249
Only the tard packs. 

My Ninthing imperative took over so I bought a launch 3DS, but the world didn't need a $250 Nintendo handheld either.  I hope Iwata learned his lesson.
Difference is is that the $250 Sony handheld didn't come with PSP level hardware.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on December 27, 2012, 01:10:00 PM
the world doesnt need handhelds period; it's over, it doesnt matter who launches one it won't ever be popular again. even if the xfags themselves launched one it'd bobmb harder because microsoft would try to charge like $500 for it im gay
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: lunchwithyuzo on December 27, 2012, 01:11:38 PM
Quote from: Cascade on December 27, 2012, 01:09:58 PM
Quote from: lunchwithyuzo on December 27, 2012, 01:04:53 PM
Quote from: Momo on December 27, 2012, 01:02:37 PM
Quote from: lunchwithyuzo on December 27, 2012, 12:58:21 PM
Thanks but no thanks.  The world doesn't need a $300 Nintendo handheld with $100 memory cards.
You must be blissfully unaware that both the Vita and 3DS launched at $249
Only the tard packs. 

My Ninthing imperative took over so I bought a launch 3DS, but the world didn't need a $250 Nintendo handheld either.  I hope Iwata learned his lesson.
Difference is is that the $250 Sony handheld didn't come with PSP level hardware.
Too bad, if it had it might have a future.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Cascade on December 27, 2012, 01:15:10 PM
Quote from: lunchwithyuzo on December 27, 2012, 01:11:38 PM
Quote from: Cascade on December 27, 2012, 01:09:58 PM
Quote from: lunchwithyuzo on December 27, 2012, 01:04:53 PM
Quote from: Momo on December 27, 2012, 01:02:37 PM
Quote from: lunchwithyuzo on December 27, 2012, 12:58:21 PM
Thanks but no thanks.  The world doesn't need a $300 Nintendo handheld with $100 memory cards.
You must be blissfully unaware that both the Vita and 3DS launched at $249
Only the tard packs. 

My Ninthing imperative took over so I bought a launch 3DS, but the world didn't need a $250 Nintendo handheld either.  I hope Iwata learned his lesson.
Difference is is that the $250 Sony handheld didn't come with PSP level hardware.
Too bad, if it had it might have a future.
3DS is successful (only in Japan mind) in spite of its embarrassing hardware.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: lunchwithyuzo on December 27, 2012, 01:19:21 PM
Quote from: Cascade on December 27, 2012, 01:15:10 PM
Quote from: lunchwithyuzo on December 27, 2012, 01:11:38 PM
Quote from: Cascade on December 27, 2012, 01:09:58 PM
Quote from: lunchwithyuzo on December 27, 2012, 01:04:53 PM
Quote from: Momo on December 27, 2012, 01:02:37 PM
Quote from: lunchwithyuzo on December 27, 2012, 12:58:21 PM
Thanks but no thanks.  The world doesn't need a $300 Nintendo handheld with $100 memory cards.
You must be blissfully unaware that both the Vita and 3DS launched at $249
Only the tard packs. 

My Ninthing imperative took over so I bought a launch 3DS, but the world didn't need a $250 Nintendo handheld either.  I hope Iwata learned his lesson.
Difference is is that the $250 Sony handheld didn't come with PSP level hardware.
Too bad, if it had it might have a future.
3DS is successful (only in Japan mind) in spite of its embarrassing hardware.
Well, yeah?  Welcome to every Nintendo handheld ever.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Cascade on December 27, 2012, 01:22:17 PM
Quote from: lunchwithyuzo on December 27, 2012, 01:19:21 PM
Quote from: Cascade on December 27, 2012, 01:15:10 PM
Quote from: lunchwithyuzo on December 27, 2012, 01:11:38 PM
Quote from: Cascade on December 27, 2012, 01:09:58 PM
Quote from: lunchwithyuzo on December 27, 2012, 01:04:53 PM
Quote from: Momo on December 27, 2012, 01:02:37 PM
Quote from: lunchwithyuzo on December 27, 2012, 12:58:21 PM
Thanks but no thanks.  The world doesn't need a $300 Nintendo handheld with $100 memory cards.
You must be blissfully unaware that both the Vita and 3DS launched at $249
Only the tard packs. 

My Ninthing imperative took over so I bought a launch 3DS, but the world didn't need a $250 Nintendo handheld either.  I hope Iwata learned his lesson.
Difference is is that the $250 Sony handheld didn't come with PSP level hardware.
Too bad, if it had it might have a future.
3DS is successful (only in Japan mind) in spite of its embarrassing hardware.
Well, yeah?  Welcome to every single thing Nintendo has released post GC/GBA ever.
FTFY.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: lunchwithyuzo on December 27, 2012, 01:27:50 PM
Quote from: Cascade on December 27, 2012, 01:22:17 PM
Quote from: lunchwithyuzo on December 27, 2012, 01:19:21 PM
Quote from: Cascade on December 27, 2012, 01:15:10 PM
Quote from: lunchwithyuzo on December 27, 2012, 01:11:38 PM
Quote from: Cascade on December 27, 2012, 01:09:58 PM
Quote from: lunchwithyuzo on December 27, 2012, 01:04:53 PM
Quote from: Momo on December 27, 2012, 01:02:37 PM
Quote from: lunchwithyuzo on December 27, 2012, 12:58:21 PM
Thanks but no thanks.  The world doesn't need a $300 Nintendo handheld with $100 memory cards.
You must be blissfully unaware that both the Vita and 3DS launched at $249
Only the tard packs. 

My Ninthing imperative took over so I bought a launch 3DS, but the world didn't need a $250 Nintendo handheld either.  I hope Iwata learned his lesson.
Difference is is that the $250 Sony handheld didn't come with PSP level hardware.
Too bad, if it had it might have a future.
3DS is successful (only in Japan mind) in spite of its embarrassing hardware.
Well, yeah?  Welcome to every single thing Nintendo has released post GC/GBA ever.
FTFY.
All the Game Boys were pitifully underpowered in their day.  Learn some history.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on December 27, 2012, 01:31:40 PM
Uuh so but they had their place back then and no real competition.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: lunchwithyuzo on December 27, 2012, 01:34:18 PM
Quote from: Premium Lager on December 27, 2012, 01:31:40 PM
Uuh so but they had their place back then and no real competition.
Sounds like 3DS in Japan these days then.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Cascade on December 27, 2012, 01:35:12 PM
Quote from: lunchwithyuzo on December 27, 2012, 01:34:18 PM
Quote from: Premium Lager on December 27, 2012, 01:31:40 PM
Uuh so but they had their place back then and no real competition.
Sounds like 3DS in Japan these days then.
I'm 99% sure they have iPads in Japan.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: lunchwithyuzo on December 27, 2012, 01:41:27 PM
Quote from: Cascade on December 27, 2012, 01:35:12 PM
Quote from: lunchwithyuzo on December 27, 2012, 01:34:18 PM
Quote from: Premium Lager on December 27, 2012, 01:31:40 PM
Uuh so but they had their place back then and no real competition.
Sounds like 3DS in Japan these days then.
I'm 99% sure they have iPads in Japan.
I'm 99% sure Japan doesn't care too much either.  GBC and GBA esxisted just fine alonside Keitai.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: lunchwithyuzo on December 27, 2012, 01:50:28 PM
US, UK, France, Germany and Japan hardware sales this year:


(http://thesilentchief.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/2012sales.jpg)

Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Cascade on December 27, 2012, 01:58:10 PM
Quote from: lunchwithyuzo on December 27, 2012, 01:50:28 PM
US, UK, France, Germany and Japan hardware sales this year:


(http://thesilentchief.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/2012sales.jpg)
Yeah... Those numbers are most likely voodoochartzzz numbers. I doubt Gamestm have access to worldwide sales figures.
Title: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Huff on December 27, 2012, 02:10:53 PM
Ninthing shows up and immediately starts posting about sales. consider me shocked
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Purple Filth on December 27, 2012, 02:15:53 PM
demi  :-\
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: lunchwithyuzo on December 27, 2012, 02:19:12 PM
Quote from: Cascade on December 27, 2012, 01:58:10 PM
Quote from: lunchwithyuzo on December 27, 2012, 01:50:28 PM
US, UK, France, Germany and Japan hardware sales this year:


(http://thesilentchief.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/2012sales.jpg)
Yeah... Those numbers are most likely voodoochartzzz numbers. I doubt Gamestm have access to worldwide sales figures.
They don't match Madeupchartzzzz though.   The J-figures also don't match Famistu/MC though, so you might be right.  ioi loves to "tweak".
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Tasty on December 27, 2012, 08:18:31 PM
Saying the GameBoy had no competition is being too generous to the GB.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: DCharlieJP on December 27, 2012, 09:11:00 PM
Quote
- ...install base?

i love the way the larger install base of the Vita is a reason to never develop a game for it ever
yet the install base of the WiiU is somehow some amazing reason to drop X360/PS3 versions and go WiiU exclusive

Time lines and all that appart - the Vita and WiiU are linked and given they are technically in about the same ball park i wonder if we might see Sony/Nintendo linking up on day and date 1-for-1 ports of shit quality games from TURD Parties? ;)


The Vita is having big problems and every Vita owner has long since accepted this - Nthings are still living in denial that, well, MARIO might have cut his cock off and thrown it in a dumbster , but it might possibly have legs and lets just wait for Zelda....

The Wii and DS were genius products - the Wii U and 3DS are prime examples of just thinking "well, we rolled a great 6 last time, what new* (* - not actually new) gimicks can we roll out this time?" - both products are misguided. The 3DS will survive on the back of Japanese sales whilst it wallows in a dumpster in the rest of the world, the WiiU though is fucked. I mean - a price cull and ambassadoring might help it but this would become a trend for nintendo and their company strategy of actively fucking their fanbase on costs would kill them in the financial market. "Oh wait, your fans aren't suckers anymore? SELL SELL SELL"


Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Great Rumbler on December 27, 2012, 09:33:14 PM
Wasn't the first year, and in particular the first few months after the launch [i.e. the holiday season], supposed to be the Wii U's best opportunity to carve out a foothold? If it's selling this bad NOW, just imagine how bad it's going to be once the new Xbox and Playstation come out. It's hard, if not impossible, to see the Wii U's current situation and future prospects as anything other than a huge misstep by Nintendo. I think they really overestimated just how much of the casual gamer audience was still interested in consoles [as opposed to smart phones and smart pads] and how many of the hardcore fans were still hanging around.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on December 27, 2012, 09:42:13 PM
The Wii U's gonna drop like a sack of bricks starting in February.  In January, there is the possibility that somewhere out there, the Wii U was sold out and the people who weren't able to find one can get one.  Also I can't imagine word of mouth is particularly great.  February is the true test of staying power.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on December 27, 2012, 09:45:00 PM
I treat the Vita like I did the Dreamcast: I know it's doomed so I'm just riding the wave of good shit while it lasts.
Title: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Huff on December 27, 2012, 09:54:33 PM
I just hope Sony keeps pumping out ps3/vita games so I can sell the ps3 game and keep the vita version.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Tasty on December 27, 2012, 09:57:32 PM
Quote from: DCharlieJP on December 27, 2012, 09:11:00 PM
yet the install base of the WiiU is somehow some amazing reason to drop X360/PS3 versions and go WiiU exclusive

:lol Who said this? You're just making stuff up now.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: maxy on December 28, 2012, 03:21:13 AM
Quote from: The Experiment on December 27, 2012, 09:45:00 PM
I treat the Vita like I did the Dreamcast: I know it's doomed so I'm just riding the wave of good shit while it lasts.

There are some other uses

http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/620272-playstation-vita/65023842

 :lol
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Mr. Gundam on December 28, 2012, 03:38:17 AM
Sales or not, when there is a software drought coming in January, fanboys can't be feeling that great.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: maxy on December 28, 2012, 04:19:37 AM
12 GB PS3,£120
http://hmv.com/hmvweb/displayProductDetails.do?sku=977202&affiliate=td&lpgrp=network&tduid=5fa30c3c7b4203b8ceddba699c744e69#anchorSynopsis

WiiU,£300
http://hmv.com/hmvweb/displayProductDetails.do?ctx=344;6;-1;-1;757&sku=819774

Tough choice.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on December 28, 2012, 05:06:36 AM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on December 27, 2012, 08:48:49 PM
The Game Gear did fairly well but certainly was no threat to the GB at any time.  I'd argue no competitor really "got" portable gaming til the Wonderswan and Neo Pocket and by then Pokemon was out and nothing was going to get in its way.

As someone that owned a Game Gear back in the day I can def say it wasnt real competition. More like a cool novelty.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: DCharlieJP on December 28, 2012, 05:13:12 AM
Quote
Who said this? You're just making stuff up now.

not at all - people expect Wii U to be part of the port brigated NEXT gen and no x360/PS3 - you can also go hunt for people saying that, as the most powerful machine, Wii U should be the machine to dev for and everything else should be ported down... and then when next gen starts its a great point to port up from! looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooolotron
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Tasty on December 28, 2012, 05:34:06 AM
Can anyone actually understand DCharlie? He's usually not this unintelligible.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: DCharlieJP on December 28, 2012, 05:44:49 AM
good lord, i have no idea what happened to that ipad post - let me try that again:

not at all - people expect Wii U to be part of the port scene NEXT gen and the x360/PS3 would not be part of that.  You can also go hunt for people saying that, as the most powerful machine now, Wii U should be the machine to use as a dev  base and everything other version should be ported down rather than ported up ... and then when next gen starts HUZZAH, the Wii U is a great point to port up from! looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooolotron

So - Nthings mindset : X360/PS3 should be down ported to from the Superior* Wii U ... until next gen starts and then we should up port from WiiU because NINTENDO!

Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Tasty on December 28, 2012, 05:53:06 AM
I've never read on GAF that PS4/Durango stuff should be up ported from Wii U, just clinging (pathetically) to the hope that Wii U will get downports from them and not be FUBARd on third parties like the Wii was.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: DCharlieJP on December 28, 2012, 06:12:31 AM
well, the reality is the optimum place for the Wii U - was - for it to be powerful enough to be the Lowest Common Denominator - but Nintendo fucked that up royally.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on December 28, 2012, 07:42:48 AM
If they werent so hung up on size they could have thrown in some of the shelf stuff and at least have the wiiu up to todays tech, but nooooooo they had to make it small so powerwise its already dated.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: lunchwithyuzo on December 28, 2012, 11:31:25 AM
Wii U is screwed port wise.  Basically all the launch ports bombed hard (like PS3 launch level bombing) and even the original stuff didn't do too hot (Red Steel was a bigger seller than ZombiU).  I think in the west the system can look forward to Wii-like support from 3rd parties.  Japan might fare a little better, but pretty much anything that isn't 3DS there is kinda fucke long term.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Purple Filth on December 28, 2012, 12:04:00 PM
Quote from: The Experiment on December 27, 2012, 09:45:00 PM
I treat the Vita like I did the Dreamcast: I know it's doomed so I'm just riding the wave of good shit while it lasts.

Yep.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: maxy on December 28, 2012, 01:56:29 PM
Zavvi eBay,new WiiU Premium £224.99

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/350680200851
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on December 28, 2012, 06:06:42 PM
Wii U was supposed to get ports from PS3/360 to gain momentum as a legitimate userbase for the next generation but looks like it isn't even doing that for 2013.  I'm pretty sure one of the big advantages of the 360 over the PS3 in the US initially was that it established itself as _the_ place for multiplatform games before the PS3 could get a good enough footing.  The Wii U isn't going to have that so it's going to be like the Wii but without the blue ocean backing.  In other words, it is fucked.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Mr. Gundam on December 28, 2012, 07:39:58 PM
There is an argument over at GAF that Nintendo will somehow convince PS3/360 owners to buy mutliplatform ports on the WiiU instead of the HD twins. The lack of a universal achievement/trophy system will prevent that from happening. People love their cheevos and kinda like their trophies.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Mr. Gundam on December 28, 2012, 07:51:49 PM
Quote from: Borys on December 28, 2012, 07:50:49 PM
Quote from: Mr. Gundam on December 28, 2012, 07:39:58 PM
There is an argument over at GAF that Nintendo will somehow convince PS3/360 owners to buy mutliplatform ports on the WiiU instead of the HD twins. The lack of a universal achievement/trophy system will prevent that from happening. People love their cheevos and kinda like their trophies.

What ports?

It's a hypothetical argument, bro.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on December 28, 2012, 08:04:05 PM
They're the multiplatform ports that the Wii U is suppose to be getting but isn't.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Mr. Gundam on December 28, 2012, 08:11:12 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on December 28, 2012, 08:08:53 PM
Why won't those lazy publishers learn?

They did learn and would rather be accused of being lazy instead of "fucking stupid."
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: maxy on December 29, 2012, 12:10:35 AM
gaf zomg dude comment(he seems to be pretty reasonable) 
Quote
It depends how much hardball Zavvi played with Nintendo tbh. From everything I have been hearing and from all retailers I have been speaking to, Nintendo are very very desperate in Europe. They don't want to cut the price, but they also want to sell enough units meet shareholder targets. Soft price cuts like these are a good way to do that without pissing off people who already bought them.

Don't be surprised if this £225 price point moves around to different retailers once a week and then goes back up to the official £300 SRP.

5.5 million by April 2013?

Maybe 2 million(at best) so far,only 3.5 to go
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on December 29, 2012, 05:39:42 AM
5.5 million by march  :lol
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: lunchwithyuzo on December 29, 2012, 10:44:01 AM
Quote from: Borys on December 29, 2012, 03:19:02 AM
zomgwtfbbq guy is some bank analyst for real. He has some quality insight.
He also said PS3's replaced Wii as the casual go to based on Wonderbook sales.  Everybody has their own lens.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Don Flamenco on December 29, 2012, 12:28:13 PM
Quote from: lunchwithyuzo on December 29, 2012, 10:44:01 AM
Quote from: Borys on December 29, 2012, 03:19:02 AM
zomgwtfbbq guy is some bank analyst for real. He has some quality insight.
He also said PS3's replaced Wii as the casual go to based on Wonderbook sales.  Everybody has their own lens.


lens shined with a piece of doo-doo
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: maxy on December 29, 2012, 12:35:04 PM
Nobody is perfect.


btw,nearly 300 WiiU sold,go ninthings go

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/350680200851
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Father_Brain on December 29, 2012, 01:44:33 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on December 27, 2012, 08:42:31 AM
sold about half of CoDBlops Vita stand-alone SKU.

haha, holy shit.  How did ACIII Wii U compare to the Liberation stand-alone?  Guessing it did even worse, given the wider gap in release timing.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Tasty on December 29, 2012, 09:12:40 PM
I wonder what the sales-age meltdown will be for the first DD-only console. Will be nice not having to question how much a game sold retail vs. DD again.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Steve Youngblood on December 29, 2012, 09:31:01 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on December 29, 2012, 09:28:15 PM
Quote from: Father_Brain on December 29, 2012, 01:44:33 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on December 27, 2012, 08:42:31 AM
sold about half of CoDBlops Vita stand-alone SKU.

haha, holy shit.  How did ACIII Wii U compare to the Liberation stand-alone?  Guessing it did even worse, given the wider gap in release timing.

That would not be an incorrect guess.  Liberation approximately 4x the WiiU AC3.  And again, I have to stress - that Liberation number already ain't pretty.

I guess you can give the WiiU this: the WiiU version of Sonic Racing handily outsold the 360/PS3 versions, by double in the 360's case and triple in the PS3's.  All three each sold under 20k units.

I find that disheartening. Not the bad Wii U stuff, mind you, but the Sonic Racing numbers. It's a good kart racer.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: cool breeze on December 29, 2012, 09:34:39 PM
sonic racing is also a discount title ($40)

curious to know how much sega dropped to get wreck it ralph and danica patrick

Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Tasty on December 29, 2012, 10:10:36 PM
They should just sell the series to Nintendo. :teehee

I have Generations on PC but I can't run it yet so I'd be interested in a half-price Wii U version.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Tasty on December 29, 2012, 10:15:32 PM
So they published Ninja Gaiden because...?

I'm sure Sonic would be more than gravy. The merchandising alone could be massive, and I have a feeling they'd like to take a crack at revitalizing interest in him in Japan.

I mean if they can take Kid Icarus from total no-name to 3DS-seller...
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Damian79 on December 29, 2012, 10:22:46 PM
Man imagine if Ninja gaidens license was sold to Nintendo.  Retro would make the game.  And it will be 2.5d sidescroller.



... eh who am i kidding.  :(
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Tasty on December 29, 2012, 10:49:00 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on December 29, 2012, 10:33:03 PM
Where did they publish Ninja Gaiden?

Nintendo published Ninja Gaiden 3: Razor's Edge in all regions outside Japan.

Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on December 29, 2012, 10:33:03 PM
Anyway, Sonic would be useless to Nintendo.  Kid Icarus, they found a way to fit him into a genre where they didn't have much.  Sonic's just another colorful platformer mascot.  Nintendo needs another one of those like they need another way to region lock something.

So are you saying they'd go for it or not? I'm getting mixed signals. :P
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: AdmiralViscen on December 29, 2012, 11:51:02 PM
Sonic Ep2 seemed like shit.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Tasty on December 30, 2012, 12:04:50 AM
Quote from: AdmiralViscen on December 29, 2012, 11:51:02 PM
Sonic Ep2 seemed like shit.

But better shit than Ep1.

I still don't get why they didn't actually make a "whole" Sonic 4 and release it as "New Sonic the Hedgehog" or something, physical + digital. Somebody at Sega must have known calling it Sonic 4 would be trolling all the old school fans they had been trying to recapture lately and the episodic packaging doesn't work if you're going to change engines for every release and only release an ep whenever you feel like it with no rhyme or reason.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Tasty on December 30, 2012, 12:45:33 AM
And of course the engine change meant they couldn't even release it on WiiWare, which I'm sure constituted if not a majority of Ep 1's sales then at least a healthy amount of them.

Can't say I feel bad for Sega though, Ep 1 was such a trainwreck in motion anyone sensible could have seen it was going to be crap before release. (Actually, some did, which resulted in the game getting delayed and the minecart crap getting taken out. :lol)

Sonic CD has more right to call itself Sonic 4 really. Makes me doubt there will ever be a Sonic 5; if they have to have a new numbered game I imagine they'll call it Sonic 4 and pretend the episodic abortion never happened.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on December 30, 2012, 12:53:05 AM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on December 29, 2012, 09:28:15 PM
Quote from: Father_Brain on December 29, 2012, 01:44:33 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on December 27, 2012, 08:42:31 AM
sold about half of CoDBlops Vita stand-alone SKU.

haha, holy shit.  How did ACIII Wii U compare to the Liberation stand-alone?  Guessing it did even worse, given the wider gap in release timing.

That would not be an incorrect guess.  Liberation approximately 4x the WiiU AC3.  And again, I have to stress - that Liberation number already ain't pretty.

I guess you can give the WiiU this: the WiiU version of Sonic Racing handily outsold the 360/PS3 versions, by double in the 360's case and triple in the PS3's.  All three each sold under 20k units.

Your posts about sales are so depressing.  Is anything actually selling anymore besides Call of Duty in the US?
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Great Rumbler on December 30, 2012, 01:10:43 AM
Quote from: The Experiment on December 30, 2012, 12:53:05 AM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on December 29, 2012, 09:28:15 PM
Quote from: Father_Brain on December 29, 2012, 01:44:33 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on December 27, 2012, 08:42:31 AM
sold about half of CoDBlops Vita stand-alone SKU.

haha, holy shit.  How did ACIII Wii U compare to the Liberation stand-alone?  Guessing it did even worse, given the wider gap in release timing.

That would not be an incorrect guess.  Liberation approximately 4x the WiiU AC3.  And again, I have to stress - that Liberation number already ain't pretty.

I guess you can give the WiiU this: the WiiU version of Sonic Racing handily outsold the 360/PS3 versions, by double in the 360's case and triple in the PS3's.  All three each sold under 20k units.

Is anything actually selling anymore besides Call of Duty in the US?

Skyrim.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Tasty on December 30, 2012, 01:31:01 AM
Don't forget iOS games.

RIP gaming. :'(
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: maxy on December 30, 2012, 02:10:07 AM
Quote
Skyrim.

Borderlands
Halo
Minecraft
Ass Creed

Quote from: Andrex on December 30, 2012, 01:31:01 AM
Don't forget iOS games.

RIP gaming. :'(

Hate to break it to you,but  smartphones are a legit gaming platform now.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Great Rumbler on December 30, 2012, 02:17:01 AM
Yeah, plenty of games are selling well, there's just a lot of [really expensive] games that aren't.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: maxy on December 30, 2012, 02:21:48 AM
Yeah,that group desperately needs new business models.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Tasty on December 30, 2012, 02:27:46 AM
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Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: treythemovie on December 30, 2012, 02:53:04 AM
Its going to be real rough once the 720 and PS4 come out to mediocrity too. A lot of western companies don't seem to be ready for such an event and are being in denial that next gen will somehow save the industry and return them to their PS2 glory days. No one seems willing to admit that the market has fragmented too much to keep up the current console business plan and that video games at a whole are losing out to various other forms of entertainment (shoe on the other foot, etc). Its going to be real rough unless something big changes.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: archnemesis on December 30, 2012, 03:14:50 AM
I think it's going to be fine. The overall market is still expanding and it will continue to do so. Publishers just have to find the right approaches for the new environment. Free to play, online multiplayer, and DLC aren't the solutions for every genre.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: maxy on December 30, 2012, 03:19:05 AM
I guess they will just have to adapt or join dinosaurs.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: archnemesis on December 30, 2012, 03:22:01 AM
Exactly. The publishers and developers that have folded this year bet on the wrong horse or just couldn't keep up with new technology and trends. I guess plastic peripherals, mediocre Call of Duty clones, and 7+ year dev cycles isn't the way to go.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on December 30, 2012, 09:54:38 AM
anyway you could give me a little hint as to how well the re-release of Rocksmith did this year?
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Don Flamenco on December 30, 2012, 10:02:57 AM
Quote from: maxy on December 30, 2012, 02:10:07 AM

Quote from: Andrex on December 30, 2012, 01:31:01 AM
Don't forget iOS games.

RIP gaming. :'(

Hate to break it to you,but  smartphones are a legit gaming platform now.


what do you mean "legit"?   as in sales or being able to accurately turn and move Tetris pieces 100% of the time with touch controls? 
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on December 30, 2012, 10:39:28 AM
what if its just a little bite like "it sold better than rock band 3 " :)
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: maxy on December 30, 2012, 12:03:49 PM
Quote from: Don Flamenco on December 30, 2012, 10:02:57 AM
Quote from: maxy on December 30, 2012, 02:10:07 AM

Quote from: Andrex on December 30, 2012, 01:31:01 AM
Don't forget iOS games.

RIP gaming. :'(

Hate to break it to you,but  smartphones are a legit gaming platform now.


what do you mean "legit"?   as in sales or being able to accurately turn and move Tetris pieces 100% of the time with touch controls?

Legit as having enough good content to even remotely please people like us here.Handhelds are in deep shit not because people stopped caring about games...people just moved on to more attractive platform--smartphones.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on December 30, 2012, 12:05:23 PM
Yeah but what about those tetris pieces maxy  :violin
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: lunchwithyuzo on December 30, 2012, 12:11:12 PM
Quote from: Cascade on December 27, 2012, 08:28:47 AM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on December 27, 2012, 08:13:03 AM
Seems like the action plan during the early psp days was to dust off some of the old big franchises from the ps1 era that weren't quite working out on PS2, then as time went on, bring more PS2 and even a few PS3 franchises on it.  Vita seemed to avoid this, relying more on PS3 IPs than anything else.

I finally took some time to really look over the last NPD numbers.  Man, the WiiU is a joke.  Like, as craptacular as the PS Vita big hitters did (and man did they do craptacular, weep for P4), they outsold almost everything on the WiiU.  The PS3 version of Blops 2 literally sold more than 100x the WiiU version.
P4>30k?
Tales of the Abyss 3DS did 45k iirc, did P4G at least outsell that?
Title: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Shaka Khan on December 30, 2012, 12:13:33 PM
Father_Brain is here? :heart
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: maxy on December 30, 2012, 12:19:47 PM
Quote from: Premium Lager on December 30, 2012, 12:05:23 PM
Yeah but what about those tetris pieces maxy  :violin

Dunno, stopped playing it in 1980s.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Don Flamenco on December 30, 2012, 01:17:02 PM
Quote from: maxy on December 30, 2012, 12:03:49 PM
Quote from: Don Flamenco on December 30, 2012, 10:02:57 AM
Quote from: maxy on December 30, 2012, 02:10:07 AM

Quote from: Andrex on December 30, 2012, 01:31:01 AM
Don't forget iOS games.

RIP gaming. :'(

Hate to break it to you,but  smartphones are a legit gaming platform now.


what do you mean "legit"?   as in sales or being able to accurately turn and move Tetris pieces 100% of the time with touch controls?

Legit as having enough good content to even remotely please people like us here.Handhelds are in deep shit not because people stopped caring about games...people just moved on to more attractive platform--smartphones.


so sales-wise then.  Controls like shit, but eh, it was $.99.   

Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Tasty on December 30, 2012, 01:23:05 PM
Quote from: lunchwithyuzo on December 30, 2012, 12:11:12 PM
Quote from: Cascade on December 27, 2012, 08:28:47 AM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on December 27, 2012, 08:13:03 AM
Seems like the action plan during the early psp days was to dust off some of the old big franchises from the ps1 era that weren't quite working out on PS2, then as time went on, bring more PS2 and even a few PS3 franchises on it.  Vita seemed to avoid this, relying more on PS3 IPs than anything else.

I finally took some time to really look over the last NPD numbers.  Man, the WiiU is a joke.  Like, as craptacular as the PS Vita big hitters did (and man did they do craptacular, weep for P4), they outsold almost everything on the WiiU.  The PS3 version of Blops 2 literally sold more than 100x the WiiU version.
P4>30k?
Tales of the Abyss 3DS did 45k iirc, did P4G at least outsell that?

TotA did 45k in the US? Hmmm... wonder if it had any legs... I heard it was a limited print but I can still find it new on Amazon and GameStop.com.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on December 30, 2012, 01:52:04 PM
Quote from: Don Flamenco on December 30, 2012, 01:17:02 PM
Quote from: maxy on December 30, 2012, 12:03:49 PM
Quote from: Don Flamenco on December 30, 2012, 10:02:57 AM
Quote from: maxy on December 30, 2012, 02:10:07 AM

Quote from: Andrex on December 30, 2012, 01:31:01 AM
Don't forget iOS games.

RIP gaming. :'(

Hate to break it to you,but  smartphones are a legit gaming platform now.


what do you mean "legit"?   as in sales or being able to accurately turn and move Tetris pieces 100% of the time with touch controls?

Legit as having enough good content to even remotely please people like us here.Handhelds are in deep shit not because people stopped caring about games...people just moved on to more attractive platform--smartphones.


so sales-wise then.  Controls like shit, but eh, it was $.99.

Thats like, your opinion grandpa. Kids these days are growing up on these controls.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Tasty on December 30, 2012, 02:03:19 PM
Quote from: Premium Lager on December 30, 2012, 01:52:04 PM

Thats like, your opinion grandpa. Kids these days are growing up on these controls.

So you're saying they'll never be as good at games as me.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: lunchwithyuzo on December 30, 2012, 02:09:58 PM
Quote from: Andrex on December 30, 2012, 01:23:05 PM
Quote from: lunchwithyuzo on December 30, 2012, 12:11:12 PM
Quote from: Cascade on December 27, 2012, 08:28:47 AM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on December 27, 2012, 08:13:03 AM
Seems like the action plan during the early psp days was to dust off some of the old big franchises from the ps1 era that weren't quite working out on PS2, then as time went on, bring more PS2 and even a few PS3 franchises on it.  Vita seemed to avoid this, relying more on PS3 IPs than anything else.

I finally took some time to really look over the last NPD numbers.  Man, the WiiU is a joke.  Like, as craptacular as the PS Vita big hitters did (and man did they do craptacular, weep for P4), they outsold almost everything on the WiiU.  The PS3 version of Blops 2 literally sold more than 100x the WiiU version.
P4>30k?
Tales of the Abyss 3DS did 45k iirc, did P4G at least outsell that?

TotA did 45k in the US? Hmmm... wonder if it had any legs... I heard it was a limited print but I can still find it new on Amazon and GameStop.com.
It had super low print runs initially, as did a lot of 3rd party 3DS games in late 2011/early 2012.  Sonic Generations and Skylanders in particular were basically sold out for months.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on December 30, 2012, 02:11:22 PM
Quote from: Andrex on December 30, 2012, 02:03:19 PM
Quote from: Premium Lager on December 30, 2012, 01:52:04 PM

Thats like, your opinion grandpa. Kids these days are growing up on these controls.

So you're saying they'll never be as good at games as me.

WiiU has games?
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Tasty on December 30, 2012, 02:16:59 PM
Quote from: Premium Lager on December 30, 2012, 02:11:22 PM
Quote from: Andrex on December 30, 2012, 02:03:19 PM
Quote from: Premium Lager on December 30, 2012, 01:52:04 PM

Thats like, your opinion grandpa. Kids these days are growing up on these controls.

So you're saying they'll never be as good at games as me.

WiiU has games?

Games in general.

I'd like to see one of these namby pamby touch gaming kids try their hands at Cashless Castle Crawl or Castle Coin Bypass (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbDBSzu8dMc).
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on December 30, 2012, 02:20:39 PM
Have you seen Back to the Future 2, that scene were Marty plays Gunman?
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Don Flamenco on December 30, 2012, 06:24:55 PM
Quote from: Premium Lager on December 30, 2012, 01:52:04 PM
Quote from: Don Flamenco on December 30, 2012, 01:17:02 PM
Quote from: maxy on December 30, 2012, 12:03:49 PM
Quote from: Don Flamenco on December 30, 2012, 10:02:57 AM
Quote from: maxy on December 30, 2012, 02:10:07 AM

Quote from: Andrex on December 30, 2012, 01:31:01 AM
Don't forget iOS games.

RIP gaming. :'(

Hate to break it to you,but  smartphones are a legit gaming platform now.


what do you mean "legit"?   as in sales or being able to accurately turn and move Tetris pieces 100% of the time with touch controls?

Legit as having enough good content to even remotely please people like us here.Handhelds are in deep shit not because people stopped caring about games...people just moved on to more attractive platform--smartphones.


so sales-wise then.  Controls like shit, but eh, it was $.99.

Thats like, your opinion grandpa. Kids these days are growing up on these controls.



if i ever need a tower defended, i will just get a bunch of 8 year olds to plot out my strategy.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Tasty on December 30, 2012, 06:54:13 PM
Quote from: Exodust SoulBurn on December 30, 2012, 03:07:43 PM
Quote from: Andrex on December 30, 2012, 02:03:19 PM
Quote from: Premium Lager on December 30, 2012, 01:52:04 PM

Thats like, your opinion grandpa. Kids these days are growing up on these controls.

So you're saying they'll never be as good at games as me.

Says the kid who wants easier Nintendo games with skippable levels.

Where the heck did you get that. :lol Now you're just making stuff up.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on December 30, 2012, 06:56:26 PM
iOS is the future in spite of extremely shitty controls.  Fortunately developers are starting to make attempts at making the experience as least shitty as possible.  A lot of games are damn near unplayable on an iPhone, gonna have to get an iPad here soon.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Don Flamenco on December 30, 2012, 08:23:51 PM
fix the controls and i'm in there.  otherwise, plenty of games that can be played with buttons to last me the rest of my life.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Tasty on December 30, 2012, 08:25:21 PM
The last time the difficulty discussion was brought up, I thought I made it clear I was fine with harder games and could see why one could prefer them, but my stance was that it didn't necessarily make a better game.

Nowhere did I say I'd prefer a level skipping option. :lol I'd never even use such a thing.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on December 30, 2012, 08:37:48 PM
the reason why handhelds are failing is because you can pay $40 for FIFA 13 on vita or 3Ds or you can pay $10 for it on iOS and its literally the same game just not as pretty and with touch controls. They need to reduce the price of games.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Tasty on December 30, 2012, 08:39:02 PM
Quote from: MyNameIsMethodis on December 30, 2012, 08:37:48 PM
the reason why handhelds are failing is because you can pay $40 for FIFA 13 on vita or 3Ds or you can pay $10 for it on iOS and its literally the same game just not as pretty and with touch controls. They need to reduce the price of games.

Pubs pricing things like morons isn't exactly a new thing. iOS just gives them more rope to hang themselves with.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on December 30, 2012, 08:40:02 PM
i bet EA make more money from $1 ios versions of FIFA then they ever will with any mainloine FIFA on any mainline platform.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: The Sceneman on December 30, 2012, 09:39:09 PM
Quote from: maxy on December 30, 2012, 12:03:49 PM
Quote from: Don Flamenco on December 30, 2012, 10:02:57 AM
Quote from: maxy on December 30, 2012, 02:10:07 AM

Quote from: Andrex on December 30, 2012, 01:31:01 AM
Don't forget iOS games.

RIP gaming. :'(

Hate to break it to you,but  smartphones are a legit gaming platform now.


what do you mean "legit"?   as in sales or being able to accurately turn and move Tetris pieces 100% of the time with touch controls?

Legit as having enough good content to even remotely please people like us here.Handhelds are in deep shit not because people stopped caring about games...people just moved on to more attractive platform--smartphones.

this is bullshit, smartphones are more attractive to Joe Public to game on but handhelds will always have their niche imo. That is gamers who want to play platformers and RPGs on a portable device without wrangling with bullshit touch screen controls (me)
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: cool breeze on December 30, 2012, 10:08:40 PM
Mostly the pricing model and accompanying game design of iOS/Android is what makes that whole mobile future iffy to me.  Pay 99 cents and deal with in app purchases and boosters and all that.  When TWEWY is considered expensive at under $20, I dunno, that's a weird concept of value.  Though I think that sold well so what am I even saying.
 
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Raban on December 31, 2012, 12:03:34 AM
Speaking of which, I'm very interested in hearing more about Super Meat Boy: The Game. Leave it to the guys who made the tightest-controlling 2D platformer of all time to make a decent one for iOS.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: maxy on December 31, 2012, 02:44:06 AM
Quote from: The Sceneman on December 30, 2012, 09:39:09 PM
Quote from: maxy on December 30, 2012, 12:03:49 PM
Quote from: Don Flamenco on December 30, 2012, 10:02:57 AM
Quote from: maxy on December 30, 2012, 02:10:07 AM

Quote from: Andrex on December 30, 2012, 01:31:01 AM
Don't forget iOS games.

RIP gaming. :'(

Hate to break it to you,but  smartphones are a legit gaming platform now.


what do you mean "legit"?   as in sales or being able to accurately turn and move Tetris pieces 100% of the time with touch controls?

Legit as having enough good content to even remotely please people like us here.Handhelds are in deep shit not because people stopped caring about games...people just moved on to more attractive platform--smartphones.

this is bullshit, smartphones are more attractive to Joe Public to game on but handhelds will always have their niche imo. That is gamers who want to play platformers and RPGs on a portable device without wrangling with bullshit touch screen controls (me)

Niche as Vita?

That has certainly done wonders in terms of future support ;)
Title: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: The Sceneman on December 31, 2012, 04:22:18 AM
Suck my dick
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Mpl90 on December 31, 2012, 04:40:23 AM
While waiting for the Individual Format charts ( i.e.: While waiting for the Chart Track site to work again..seriously, look http://www.chart-track.co.uk/ ) It's working now, but no new chart so far.

Ukie All Formats Top 40 available

Ubisoft end the year on a high as ‘Far Cry 3’ claims No1, pushing Call of Duty: Black Ops II’ (-48%) down to No3. It’s the publisher’s first No1 in the last week of the year since the original Assassin’s Creed topped the chart back in W52 2007. Ubisoft also lay claim to the most Top 10 charting titles this week with 3 thanks to ‘Just Dance 4’ (-53%) and ‘Assassin’s Creed III’ (-34%) both only slipping one place, to No6 and No8 respectively. ‘FIFA 13’ (+1%) climbs 2 places to No2 with its highest ever weekly sales outside of the first 3 weeks. ‘Hitman Absolution’ (-40%) falls one place to No4 ahead of ‘Need for Speed: Most Wanted’ (-13%) which is up one place to No5. ‘Halo 4’ (-24%) finishes at No7, but Microsoft have another Top 10 title this week thanks to retailer promotion on ‘Forza Horizon’ (+30%) which helps it race from No21 to No10.

FAR CRY 3 - UBISOFT
FIFA 13 - ELECTRONIC ARTS
CALL OF DUTY: BLACK OPS II - ACTIVISION BLIZZARD
HITMAN ABSOLUTION - SQUARE ENIX EUROPE
NEED FOR SPEED MOST WANTED - ELECTRONIC ARTS
JUST DANCE 4 - UBISOFT
HALO 4 - MICROSOFT
ASSASSIN'S CREED III - UBISOFT
LEGO THE LORD OF THE RINGS - WARNER BROS. INTERACTIVE
FORZA HORIZON - MICROSOFT
WWE '13 - THQ
THE ELDER SCROLLS V: SKYRIM - BETHESDA SOFTWORKS
FOOTBALL MANAGER 2013 - SEGA
DISHONORED - BETHESDA SOFTWORKS
MEDAL OF HONOR: WARFIGHTER - ELECTRONIC ARTS
SONIC & ALL STARS RACING TRANSFORMED - SEGA
SKYLANDERS GIANTS - ACTIVISION BLIZZARD
LEGO BATMAN 2: DC SUPER HEROES - WARNER BROS. INTERACTIVE
DISNEY EPIC MICKEY 2: THE POWER OF TWO - DISNEY INTERACTIVE STUDIOS
FORZA MOTORSPORT 4 - MICROSOFT
BORDERLANDS 2 - TAKE 2
NEW SUPER MARIO BROS. 2 - NINTENDO
RESIDENT EVIL 6 - CAPCOM
DEAD ISLAND GOTY EDITION - KOCH MEDIA
MARIO KART 7 - NINTENDO
MARIO & SONIC LONDON 2012 OLYMPIC GAMES - SEGA
SLEEPING DOGS - SQUARE ENIX EUROPE
MOSHI MONSTERS: MOSHLINGS THEME PARK - MIND CANDY
SUPER MARIO 3D LAND - NINTENDO
DOOM 3: BFG EDITION - BETHESDA SOFTWORKS
F1 2012 - CODEMASTERS
SONIC GENERATIONS - SEGA
FAMILY GUY: BACK TO THE MULTIVERSE - ACTIVISION BLIZZARD
ANGRY BIRDS TRILOGY - ACTIVISION BLIZZARD
GRAND THEFT AUTO EPISODES - LIBERTY CITY - TAKE 2
F1 RACE STARS - CODEMASTERS
BOOK OF SPELLS - SONY COMPUTER ENT.
GRAND THEFT AUTO IV - TAKE 2
THE AMAZING SPIDER-MAN - ACTIVISION BLIZZARD
007 LEGENDS - ACTIVISION BLIZZARD

@Oscar: Thanks...but IIRC TotA was reported at about 45k in May, while it launched in February. Shouldn't it be around 50k-55k now? it wouldn't be a bad result, not that far from the original TotA on PS2. Here's the LTD for other Tales of in US


Tales of Destiny - 68,647
Tales of Destiny 2 (Eternia) - 57,896
Tales of Symphonia - 470,253
Tales of Legendia - 83,343
Tales of Phantasia - 88,235
Tales of the Abyss - 72,192
Tales of the World - 39,809
Tales of Vesperia - 144,354
Tales of Vesperia LE - 6944
Tales of Symphonia 2 - 136,695
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: maxy on December 31, 2012, 04:58:58 AM
Quote from: The Sceneman on December 31, 2012, 04:22:18 AM
Suck my dick

 :-*
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Tasty on December 31, 2012, 05:13:44 AM
ToS2 sold that much? :o (Relatively.) I coulda sworn it megabombed.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Mpl90 on December 31, 2012, 05:31:08 AM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on December 31, 2012, 05:09:30 AM
as i said, i was away from my numbers, so i was just confirming that p4 wasn't close to 45k.  abyss is a bit higher than that now.  your estimate is fairly close.

Thanks again! So, not a bad result for Abyss 3D in the end.
I can't say I don't hope to see a mainline Tales of on 3DS in the next future. Right now it makes sense on both the sides

1)East: 3DS is THE console right now, it showed it can sell third party software of several types despite KH3D's fail ( but Bravely Default makes up for that XD ), and it has a bright future in the country, so a mainline title should be a given.
2)West: Nintendo's push made Symphonia the best selling Tales of in US by far, almost 500k sold. It's also due to Gamecube's limited JRPG lineup, but probably a mainline Tales of on 3DS would be a good opportunity for Nintendo to bring back that kind of push, helping Namco too in establishing the brand here again.

I hope we'll see it in the future.

More in topic, we have our Individual Formats UK Top 40 ( with a surprise!)

http://www.chart-track.co.uk/index.jsp?c=p/software/uk/latest/index_test.jsp&ct=110032
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: maxy on December 31, 2012, 05:46:22 AM
Quote
More in topic, we have our Individual Formats UK Top 40 ( with a surprise!)

http://www.chart-track.co.uk/index.jsp?c=p/software/uk/latest/index_test.jsp&ct=110032

20 360 games in top 40
Top 5 games,360
3 Vita games in top 40

No WiiU games in top 40

spoiler (click to show/hide)
poor Andrex
[close]

This has to be embarrassing for Nintendo,beaten by Vita in holiday season.

Far Cry 3  :bow2
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Mpl90 on December 31, 2012, 05:48:45 AM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on December 31, 2012, 05:41:11 AM
I have a feeling Tales localizations are in for a dry spell again after both Abyss and Graces failed to meet Namco's (silly) expectations.

With that in mind, mainline Tales games should stick to the PS3.  That's where they're pushing big numbers in Japan, and the other platforms aren't even close.

Didn't they say they were very satisfied by Abyss sales in Europe? Several reprints and all. And, above all, they're bringing Xillia. I hope they'll still bring as many Tales of games as possible, especially on digital shops of platforms too ( it can be helpful when there aren't retail copies available, especially given their niche nature right now ).
Title: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Shaka Khan on December 31, 2012, 05:50:09 AM
Oh my fucking god. The fuck is you doing here, punk?

Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on December 30, 2012, 05:47:37 PM
Quote from: lunchwithyuzo on December 30, 2012, 12:11:12 PM

Tales of the Abyss 3DS did 45k iirc, did P4G at least outsell that?

No, not even close

For real? :rofl
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Mpl90 on December 31, 2012, 05:54:31 AM
When does Wii U launch in UK? :P

Strangely, in the Value chart, both NSMBU and Nintendo Land are in. And NSMBU is 25th even

http://www.chart-track.co.uk/index.jsp?c=p/software/uk/latest/index_test.jsp&ct=110033

But yes, the situation remain embarassing and Nintendo Land losing 9 places is a bad sign about hardware sales this week.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on December 31, 2012, 05:56:15 AM
Quote from: Raban on December 31, 2012, 12:03:34 AM
Speaking of which, I'm very interested in hearing more about Super Meat Boy: The Game. Leave it to the guys who made the tightest-controlling 2D platformer of all time to make a decent one for iOS.

This is one of my most anticipated games next year.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Tasty on December 31, 2012, 06:20:06 AM
Said it before, but I'd take 3DS ports of Symphonia, Vesperia, Graces F, or Xilia. :heart
Title: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Shaka Khan on December 31, 2012, 06:20:38 AM
I don't appreciate how I'm being ignored here. I'd like to fight with Mlp90, plz.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Mpl90 on December 31, 2012, 06:21:19 AM
Why do you want to fight with me? Who the hell are you? XD
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: maxy on December 31, 2012, 06:22:22 AM
Quote
Oh my fucking god. The fuck is you doing here, punk?

Yeah,what is happening here,full blown invasion?
 :punch
Borys won't be happy.
Title: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Shaka Khan on December 31, 2012, 06:24:26 AM
Quote from: Mpl90 on December 31, 2012, 06:21:19 AM
Why do you want to fight with me? Who the hell are you? XD

Someone who'd like to see you cry. You and your disingenuous fellow toadstools ruined sale-age for me.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Mpl90 on December 31, 2012, 06:27:11 AM
Quote from: Shaka Khan on December 31, 2012, 06:24:26 AM
Quote from: Mpl90 on December 31, 2012, 06:21:19 AM
Why do you want to fight with me? Who the hell are you? XD

Someone who'd like to see you cry. You and your disingenuous fellow toadstools ruined sale-age for me.

Cjelly, is that you? XD
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Mpl90 on December 31, 2012, 06:34:08 AM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on December 31, 2012, 06:29:07 AM
Quote from: Andrex on December 31, 2012, 06:20:06 AM
Said it before, but I'd take 3DS ports of Symphonia, Vesperia, Graces F, or Xilia. :heart

And yet, you will get none of those.

Namco got burned hard on Tales DS games.  Now, that was partly their fault by leading with the awful Tempest, but I imagine they're holding it against the DS anyway.  Abyss likely didn't convince them the 3DS was any different.  They've announced/released more Tales games on Vita than 3DS at this point, which should send a clear message.

Eeeeh, but Tales of Hearts R doesn't seem to be such a good effort to say there's a shift now ( outsourced, not high budget, some bad modifications to the gameplay), even if coupled with Tales of Innocence R. A Tales of the World: RM4 on Vita would have been a clear message about this, but this...not so much. But yes, I don't see Vesperia/Graces F/Xillia on 3DS possible at all. Maybe Symphonia; I'd like a brand new main entry though.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Tasty on December 31, 2012, 06:34:21 AM
:(

Bamco you reap what you sow. :'(
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Tasty on December 31, 2012, 06:34:46 AM
Also who is this Mpl dude.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on December 31, 2012, 06:48:31 AM
Quote from: Andrex on December 31, 2012, 06:34:46 AM
Also who is this Mpl dude.

Co-signed.
Title: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Shaka Khan on December 31, 2012, 06:48:39 AM
Quote from: Mpl90 on December 31, 2012, 06:27:11 AM
Cjelly, is that you? XD

I swear half of my problem with you is caused by your unapologetic use of XD. Stop doing that.

I'm not Cjelly, but I'll drop this if you type this three times: "Heavenly Father Iwata, I am your faithful Ninthing warrior.  Grant me the sale numbers to extinguish the Takaos of the world, and the longevity to see Sony go under."

It's time to stop this weak concerned trolling routine.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Mpl90 on December 31, 2012, 06:53:29 AM
Quote from: Shaka Khan on December 31, 2012, 06:48:39 AM
Quote from: Mpl90 on December 31, 2012, 06:27:11 AM
Cjelly, is that you? XD

I swear half of my problem with you is caused by your unapologetic use of XD. Stop doing that.

I'm not Cjelly, but I'll drop this if you type this three times: "Heavenly Father Iwata, I am your faithful Ninthing warrior.  Grant me the sale numbers to extinguish the Takaos of the world, and the longevity to see Sony go under."

If that thing is such a problem for you, I'm sorry. I didn't think using that smile in this way would have disturbed anyone. Sorry for that, I'll try to greatly lower its use here and on Gaf too.
Title: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Shaka Khan on December 31, 2012, 06:57:39 AM
Okay, now I feel bad. You can stay, as long as you attempt to be more genuine.

(Fucker)
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on December 31, 2012, 07:01:30 AM
 :D Shaka   :D

I always think of you when I see that smiley, does it make you want to punch through the screen?
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Mpl90 on December 31, 2012, 07:02:22 AM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on December 31, 2012, 06:56:40 AM
Quote from: Andrex on December 31, 2012, 06:34:46 AM
Also who is this Mpl dude.

sales-age guy.  if i remember right, his favourite plastic toys tend to be the nintendo ones, so you boys should get along well enough.

Yes, indeed. But not that much to buy a Wii U instead of PS3 this year. Such a good idea: Uncharted 2, Bayonetta, Wipeout HD, One Piece (at half the price, thanks PSN Deal!), even Japanese demos like Yakuza 5, such a good feeling. Unfortunately, I have so many older games to buy for it + Xenoblade on Wii ( it should be my January game), but it's also fortunate these old games are pretty cheap now.

Some UK numbers extrapolated

Halo 4 Week 52 - 43.413 (-24%)

Call of Duty: Black Ops 2 (all formats) Week 52 - less than 107.907 (-48%)

Assassin's Creed 3 (all formats) Week 52 - 39.378 (-34%)
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Mpl90 on December 31, 2012, 07:03:18 AM
Sorry, double.
Title: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Shaka Khan on December 31, 2012, 07:05:01 AM
Quote from: Premium Lager on December 31, 2012, 07:01:30 AM
:D Shaka   :D

I always think of you when I see that smiley, does it make you want to punch through the screen?

Considering I still Adblock them everywhere I go, I do. :lol
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on December 31, 2012, 07:16:01 AM
What is it about it again?
Title: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Shaka Khan on December 31, 2012, 07:24:43 AM
It was wildly misused on GAF, punctuating the sentences of a lot of inarticulate warriors.

Back when I just started creating gifs, I remember wasting an hour or so trying to create a gif where it gets punched, knocking the teeth out, before I gave up. :lol
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Don Flamenco on December 31, 2012, 10:51:25 AM
Quote from: maxy on December 31, 2012, 02:44:06 AM
Quote from: The Sceneman on December 30, 2012, 09:39:09 PM
Quote from: maxy on December 30, 2012, 12:03:49 PM
Quote from: Don Flamenco on December 30, 2012, 10:02:57 AM
Quote from: maxy on December 30, 2012, 02:10:07 AM

Quote from: Andrex on December 30, 2012, 01:31:01 AM
Don't forget iOS games.

RIP gaming. :'(

Hate to break it to you,but  smartphones are a legit gaming platform now.


what do you mean "legit"?   as in sales or being able to accurately turn and move Tetris pieces 100% of the time with touch controls?

Legit as having enough good content to even remotely please people like us here.Handhelds are in deep shit not because people stopped caring about games...people just moved on to more attractive platform--smartphones.

this is bullshit, smartphones are more attractive to Joe Public to game on but handhelds will always have their niche imo. That is gamers who want to play platformers and RPGs on a portable device without wrangling with bullshit touch screen controls (me)

Niche as Vita?

That has certainly done wonders in terms of future support ;)



WHOSE SIDE ARE YOU ON, MAXY?   :maf
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on December 31, 2012, 11:00:21 AM
Oscar what are wiiu sales in the uk so far?

Peeps on gaf say CEX has 1100 units in store, that seems waaat much for such a small 2nd hand chain.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on December 31, 2012, 11:06:08 AM
Dammit, still seems way too much. CEX isnt even that big.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Mpl90 on December 31, 2012, 11:37:39 AM
It's no doubt Nintendo is facing some big problems in recognition right now in UK. They lost the relevance they had in the past. IMHO, it's due to smartphones / tablets having a relatively bigger impact there compared to other territories ( even compared to US) and the competitiveness between retailers / supermarkets that brings big titles like Hitman Absolution to have half the launch price after just a week, and many HD titles seeing deals after few weeks, since Nintendo and Nintendo published titles aren't so keen to discounts. This competitiveness is something that is making me worried about UK gaming retail industry as a whole: deals after 2-3 weeks are so frequent that there could be a consistent shrinkage of launch buyers (especially for mid / low tier titles, AAA big advertised titles shouldn't be so affected) since people would think "Why to buy it at launch? In 2-3 weeks, it's half the price!", and then gain for both retailers and publishers is quite lowered. It's true this is also a sign that prices are too high, and I'm all for a fluid system of prices where publishers can determine retail price based on budget for developing / advertising, with as upper limit 64.99 for home titles and 34.99 for handheld titles, but still.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on December 31, 2012, 11:39:09 AM
i think its more the fact that the UK has significantly less manchildren who are drones and buy any piece of shit with Nintendo and Mario on it. but thats just the way I want to look at it :)
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: DCharlieJP on December 31, 2012, 10:40:30 PM
I'm with Methodis

:bow BRITISH PEOPLE :bow2

... we are still waiting for dental to drop in price before we jump in. :(




Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: D3RANG3D on December 31, 2012, 10:43:05 PM
Why are all these Ninthings invading The Bore :yuck.

The New Bore :piss2
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on December 31, 2012, 11:15:55 PM
wow thats rude oscar. (but true)
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Tasty on December 31, 2012, 11:33:31 PM
All we need is AceBandage here and our domination would be certain.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: D3RANG3D on December 31, 2012, 11:49:09 PM
Quote from: Andrex on December 31, 2012, 11:33:31 PM
All we need is AceBandage here and our domination would be certain.

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Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Tasty on January 01, 2013, 04:24:28 AM
Who?
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: maxy on January 01, 2013, 07:02:36 AM
Quote
It's no doubt Nintendo is facing some big problems in recognition right now in UK. They lost the relevance they had in the past. IMHO, it's due to smartphones / tablets having a relatively bigger impact there compared to other territories ( even compared to US) and the competitiveness between retailers / supermarkets that brings big titles like Hitman Absolution to have half the launch price after just a week, and many HD titles seeing deals after few weeks, since Nintendo and Nintendo published titles aren't so keen to discounts.

Here is another theory.

Wii has caused first major Nintendo fanbase erosion.

/credit goes to Oscar
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on January 01, 2013, 07:20:36 AM
Quote from: maxy on January 01, 2013, 07:02:36 AM
Quote
It's no doubt Nintendo is facing some big problems in recognition right now in UK. They lost the relevance they had in the past. IMHO, it's due to smartphones / tablets having a relatively bigger impact there compared to other territories ( even compared to US) and the competitiveness between retailers / supermarkets that brings big titles like Hitman Absolution to have half the launch price after just a week, and many HD titles seeing deals after few weeks, since Nintendo and Nintendo published titles aren't so keen to discounts.

Here is another theory.

Wii has caused first major Nintendo fanbase erosion.

/credit goes to Oscar

Ive had all Nintendo consoles except the snes and virtual boy, this gen is the first time i plan on buying nothing nintendo.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: archnemesis on January 01, 2013, 08:03:31 AM
Wait, what? You have all Nintendo consoles except the SNES. Why would anyone do such a thing?
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Tasty on January 01, 2013, 08:14:41 AM
Any birdies know what the Vita has sold to-date worldwide since May 11, 2012?
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on January 01, 2013, 08:22:37 AM
Since Vita has supposedly sold 2.2 million units by June 2012, that number is probably up to 2.5-2.6 million at best.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: archnemesis on January 01, 2013, 09:25:17 AM
Oh, that explains it.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on January 01, 2013, 11:09:12 AM
I had a Mega Drive.

You know blood in Mortal Kombat n shit, Sonic, Virtua Racing.

spoiler (click to show/hide)
polish
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Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Flannel Boy on January 01, 2013, 01:22:54 PM
Quote from: Andrex on January 01, 2013, 08:14:41 AM
Any birdies know what the Vita has sold to-date worldwide since May 11, 2012?

Jesus Christ. Go to xhamster like the rest of us.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: maxy on January 01, 2013, 01:27:44 PM
Quote from: Flannel Boy on January 01, 2013, 01:22:54 PM
Quote from: Andrex on January 01, 2013, 08:14:41 AM
Any birdies know what the Vita has sold to-date worldwide since May 11, 2012?

Jesus Christ. Go to xhamster like the rest of us.

 :bow2

xhamster :bow2
Title: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Shaka Khan on January 01, 2013, 01:28:52 PM
Quote from: Flannel Boy on January 01, 2013, 01:22:54 PM
Quote from: Andrex on January 01, 2013, 08:14:41 AM
Any birdies know what the Vita has sold to-date worldwide since May 11, 2012?

Jesus Christ. Go to xhamster like the rest of us.

:lol
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Mr. Gundam on January 01, 2013, 05:07:46 PM
Quote from: Flannel Boy on January 01, 2013, 01:22:54 PM
Quote from: Andrex on January 01, 2013, 08:14:41 AM
Any birdies know what the Vita has sold to-date worldwide since May 11, 2012?

Jesus Christ. Go to xhamster like the rest of us.

Real women scare him. Plus they're seriously lacking in the whimsy department.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Tasty on January 01, 2013, 07:43:28 PM
Quote from: The Experiment on January 01, 2013, 08:22:37 AM
Since Vita has supposedly sold 2.2 million units by June 2012, that number is probably up to 2.5-2.6 million at best.

Oh good, that's what I figured (http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=37775379#post37775379).
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Timber on January 01, 2013, 07:59:13 PM
Quote from: Flannel Boy on January 01, 2013, 01:22:54 PM
Quote from: Andrex on January 01, 2013, 08:14:41 AM
Any birdies know what the Vita has sold to-date worldwide since May 11, 2012?

Jesus Christ. Go to xhamster like the rest of us.

POTY
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Himu on January 01, 2013, 08:03:45 PM
Quote from: Flannel Boy on January 01, 2013, 01:22:54 PM
Quote from: Andrex on January 01, 2013, 08:14:41 AM
Any birdies know what the Vita has sold to-date worldwide since May 11, 2012?

Jesus Christ. Go to xhamster like the rest of us.

:rofl :rofl :rofl

newsfeed
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Tasty on January 01, 2013, 09:05:54 PM
Vita sales :drool (http://i.imgur.com/jNop9.gif)
Title: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Huff on January 01, 2013, 09:27:44 PM
Quote from: Flannel Boy on January 01, 2013, 01:22:54 PM
Quote from: Andrex on January 01, 2013, 08:14:41 AM
Any birdies know what the Vita has sold to-date worldwide since May 11, 2012?

Jesus Christ. Go to xhamster like the rest of us.

:lol :lol :lol
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Joe Molotov on January 01, 2013, 09:33:18 PM
Quote from: Formerly Known As Himuro on January 01, 2013, 08:03:45 PM
Quote from: Flannel Boy on January 01, 2013, 01:22:54 PM
Quote from: Andrex on January 01, 2013, 08:14:41 AM
Any birdies know what the Vita has sold to-date worldwide since May 11, 2012?

Jesus Christ. Go to xhamster like the rest of us.

:rofl :rofl :rofl

newsfeed

:lol Done.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Don Flamenco on January 01, 2013, 09:58:29 PM
F5F5F5F5F5F5F5F5

GOT IT


YEAHHHHHHH
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: pilonv1 on January 01, 2013, 10:16:56 PM
Numbers are easier to use and argue than opinions or other less tangible qualities.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on January 01, 2013, 10:24:01 PM
I think it is because people want their opinions to be reaffirmed by others.  Rather than say "I hate the Vita because I'd suck Miyamoto's cock if he whipped it out in front of me", they can now say "Well, the 3DS is selling so great and the sales for Vita are so low that how could you even pretend to ignore the facts that the Vita is failing and has nothing good out for it?"

Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Sales Talk and Only Sales Talk
Post by: treythemovie on January 01, 2013, 10:27:43 PM
That sort of stuff has always happened, only now you're seeing it being flipped around more. Instead of people trying to use their opinions as statements of fact, you have a lot of people trying to displace subjective opinion with objective numbers.
Title: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: Huff on January 01, 2013, 10:51:00 PM
I want to tempt you. So hard.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: Great Rumbler on January 01, 2013, 10:54:20 PM
Quote from: Huff on January 01, 2013, 10:51:00 PM
I want to tempt you. So hard.

The seals must remain on the sales talk tomb, Oscar must not be allowed to return to the world of the living.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: demi on January 01, 2013, 10:59:32 PM
Oscar is right though... stop being distinguished mentally-challenged fellows

* I havent read any posts prior to this page
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: Tasty on January 01, 2013, 11:16:05 PM
:bow Oscar :bow2

:piss Dcharle :piss2
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: Positive Touch on January 01, 2013, 11:19:18 PM
shouldn'ta talked shit on mariah
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: Don Flamenco on January 01, 2013, 11:39:40 PM
i thought the old justification was "buy the system that's selling more because that means it'll get more games."  Not sure if that holds true today (my favorite system is selling the least of any console ever and i have a shitload of games for it.)  That was the answer I got when I asked the more sycophantic sales warriors why they cared so much on GAF (it's not like that here, except when Andrex is backed into a corner.)
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: Tasty on January 01, 2013, 11:43:23 PM
I rarely use sales as fodder in a non-sales argument. I just like numbers and knowing how close the industry as a whole is spiraling towards the toilet drain, which is why I always like to see when a game does well. That's usually my hope when I ask for numbers on a certain game.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: DCharlieJP on January 01, 2013, 11:52:59 PM
moving moaning to a dedicate salty moan thread - have at it.

Quote
If you think it's worthless discussion or you have no interest in it, I've got great news for you.  You can just avoid this thread

I made the distinction that there's genuine analytical interest and a weird second class of sales cheering that has little to do with anything which is who that was aimed at - but regardless, it was a shit pair of posts with no audience or purpose in here and they're now gone.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: pilonv1 on January 01, 2013, 11:55:43 PM
Quote from: Andrex on January 01, 2013, 11:43:23 PM
I rarely use sales as fodder in a non-sales argument. I just like numbers and knowing how close the industry as a whole is spiraling towards the toilet drain, which is why I always like to see when a game does well. That's usually my hope when I ask for numbers on a certain game.

Units don't give you the whole picture though
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: DCharlieJP on January 02, 2013, 12:21:43 AM
Quote from: pilonv1 on January 01, 2013, 11:55:43 PM
Quote from: Andrex on January 01, 2013, 11:43:23 PM
I rarely use sales as fodder in a non-sales argument. I just like numbers and knowing how close the industry as a whole is spiraling towards the toilet drain, which is why I always like to see when a game does well. That's usually my hope when I ask for numbers on a certain game.

Units don't give you the whole picture though

indeed - a lot of "successful" games in terms of sales were financial disasters, a lot of "bombas" made out like bandits. Obviously that's all common sense seemingly...

Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: Mr. Gundam on January 02, 2013, 12:41:34 AM
Oh damn you DCharlie, I liked your sports analogy because I had a counter.

Counterpoint: THE SEATTLE FUCKING MARINERS.

The Mariners continually turn a profit every single season with ticket sales and merchandise. They pride themselves on being family friendly, so much so that they ask fans not bring in signs or wear shirts that say anything negative about the opposition (ie. they banned Yankees Suck shirts a while back). They also lobbied strongly against a strip club that ended up being built across the street from the stadium.

Back to that profit thing. The Mariners are terrible. They've been terrible for almost ten years now and pretty much for the entirety of the club's existence. They also refuse to spend money on acquiring any actual talent that would make the team better. They have the money to spend, but they won't, instead just putting out a shit team and making money. The fans here in Seattle fucking hate it, no one talks about how they're making money, everyone wants them to spend that money and get players.

Guess who owns the Mariners?

(http://brooklynking.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/hiroshi-yamauchi.jpg)

Guess who runs the team on a daily basis for Pimp Daddy Nintendo Man?

Howard Lincoln, the former chairman of Nintendo of America and the current Chairman and Chief Executive Officer of the Seattle Mariners baseball team, representing absentee majority owner Hiroshi Yamauchi. (In August 2004, Yamauchi's shares were transferred to Nintendo as an estate planning measure, but as he remains chairman emeritus of Nintendo's board of directors, he is still considered the team's owner.)

Coincidence? Probably, but NO FUCKING WAY.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: Tasty on January 02, 2013, 12:48:52 AM
Quote from: pilonv1 on January 01, 2013, 11:55:43 PM
Quote from: Andrex on January 01, 2013, 11:43:23 PM
I rarely use sales as fodder in a non-sales argument. I just like numbers and knowing how close the industry as a whole is spiraling towards the toilet drain, which is why I always like to see when a game does well. That's usually my hope when I ask for numbers on a certain game.

Units don't give you the whole picture though

No duh? I never said they didn't and I never consider sales alone.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: DCharlieJP on January 02, 2013, 12:55:48 AM
Quote
Coincidence? Probably, but NO FUCKING WAY.

final comment on it as we're drifting : it's likely a UK thing - 92 pro teams in a small condensed area where rivalries have existed for years means you are constantly arguing with people, but the number of chances for success are dwindling. The main culprits seem to be Arsenal fans but anyways.

As the top flight is becoming more a closed shop and we are left with 3 realistic teams who can win the league, then those who fall outside are fighting for scraps. Arsenal have the highest ticket prices in the league, routinely sell their best players and bring in much cheaper poorer players, so to have a section of their fans clapping this (this is after all the team that went an entire season without defeat not -too- long back) is just odd.

My team did the family thing/fiscal responsibility thing (and STILL went into administration!) - depressing as hell. From the Premier League to toying with Div 1 (which is two below the prem confusingly)

 Again - drifting and now threadshitting :D

Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: Momo on January 02, 2013, 01:35:32 AM
So Anarchy Reigns is launching in a couple of days, as one of the 6 people that pre-ordered it I feel a confident this will sell sub 300K WW
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: Purple Filth on January 02, 2013, 01:43:12 AM
Quote from: Mr. Gundam on January 02, 2013, 12:41:34 AM
Oh damn you DCharlie, I liked your sports analogy because I had a counter.

Counterpoint: THE SEATTLE FUCKING MARINERS.

The Mariners continually turn a profit every single season with ticket sales and merchandise. They pride themselves on being family friendly, so much so that they ask fans not bring in signs or wear shirts that say anything negative about the opposition (ie. they banned Yankees Suck shirts a while back). They also lobbied strongly against a strip club that ended up being built across the street from the stadium.

Back to that profit thing. The Mariners are terrible. They've been terrible for almost ten years now and pretty much for the entirety of the club's existence. They also refuse to spend money on acquiring any actual talent that would make the team better. They have the money to spend, but they won't, instead just putting out a shit team and making money. The fans here in Seattle fucking hate it, no one talks about how they're making money, everyone wants them to spend that money and get players.

Guess who owns the Mariners?

(http://brooklynking.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/hiroshi-yamauchi.jpg)

Guess who runs the team on a daily basis for Pimp Daddy Nintendo Man?

Howard Lincoln, the former chairman of Nintendo of America and the current Chairman and Chief Executive Officer of the Seattle Mariners baseball team, representing absentee majority owner Hiroshi Yamauchi. (In August 2004, Yamauchi's shares were transferred to Nintendo as an estate planning measure, but as he remains chairman emeritus of Nintendo's board of directors, he is still considered the team's owner.)

Coincidence? Probably, but NO FUCKING WAY.

Wait, Seriously?


I can't call that a coincidence at all  :o
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: Mr. Gundam on January 02, 2013, 02:10:42 AM
Quote from: Purple Filth on January 02, 2013, 01:43:12 AM
Quote from: Mr. Gundam on January 02, 2013, 12:41:34 AM
Oh damn you DCharlie, I liked your sports analogy because I had a counter.

Counterpoint: THE SEATTLE FUCKING MARINERS.

The Mariners continually turn a profit every single season with ticket sales and merchandise. They pride themselves on being family friendly, so much so that they ask fans not bring in signs or wear shirts that say anything negative about the opposition (ie. they banned Yankees Suck shirts a while back). They also lobbied strongly against a strip club that ended up being built across the street from the stadium.

Back to that profit thing. The Mariners are terrible. They've been terrible for almost ten years now and pretty much for the entirety of the club's existence. They also refuse to spend money on acquiring any actual talent that would make the team better. They have the money to spend, but they won't, instead just putting out a shit team and making money. The fans here in Seattle fucking hate it, no one talks about how they're making money, everyone wants them to spend that money and get players.

Guess who owns the Mariners?

(http://brooklynking.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/hiroshi-yamauchi.jpg)

Guess who runs the team on a daily basis for Pimp Daddy Nintendo Man?

Howard Lincoln, the former chairman of Nintendo of America and the current Chairman and Chief Executive Officer of the Seattle Mariners baseball team, representing absentee majority owner Hiroshi Yamauchi. (In August 2004, Yamauchi's shares were transferred to Nintendo as an estate planning measure, but as he remains chairman emeritus of Nintendo's board of directors, he is still considered the team's owner.)

Coincidence? Probably, but NO FUCKING WAY.

Wait, Seriously?


I can't call that a coincidence at all  :o

Everything I said above is true. I love my Mariners, but they suck.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: archnemesis on January 02, 2013, 02:23:47 AM
Quote from: Momo on January 02, 2013, 01:35:32 AM
So Anarchy Reigns is launching in a couple of days, as one of the 6 people that pre-ordered it I feel a confident this will sell sub 300K WW
That seems like a safe guess since it only sold 30k in Japan and there is no hype for it whatsoever.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: Mr. Gundam on January 02, 2013, 02:31:15 AM
I'm sure it will bomba big time, but at least it's coming out at $30 instead of $60. I've got it preordered.
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Post by: Cerveza mas fina on January 02, 2013, 02:32:52 AM
But do the Mariners play with whimsy?

I envision an amazing gif of a touchdown against the Mariners with Nintendo Whimsy flashing big.
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Post by: Mr. Gundam on January 02, 2013, 02:35:48 AM
Quote from: Premium Lager on January 02, 2013, 02:32:52 AM
But do the Mariners play with whimsy?

I envision an amazing gif of a touchdown against the Mariners with Nintendo Whimsy flashing big.

 8)
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: Mr. Gundam on January 02, 2013, 02:51:57 AM
It doesn't seem like somehting that would be more popular outside Japan than within.
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Post by: Momo on January 02, 2013, 03:20:22 AM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on January 02, 2013, 02:51:01 AM
Quote from: Momo on January 02, 2013, 01:35:32 AM
So Anarchy Reigns is launching in a couple of days, as one of the 6 people that pre-ordered it I feel a confident this will sell sub 300K WW

I suspect it won't even reach 60k WW.
I think it will get 100k by price point and word of mouth
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Post by: Rahxephon91 on January 02, 2013, 03:36:39 AM
Forgot Anarchy Reigns was even coming out.

Game is going to bomb hard.
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Post by: archnemesis on January 02, 2013, 04:25:26 AM
There is also negative word of mouth that will balance out the good.
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Post by: maxy on January 02, 2013, 07:14:35 AM
UK top 20 platform split
http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/gamesblog/2013/jan/02/games
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Post by: Don Flamenco on January 02, 2013, 07:51:01 AM
30,002 sales with me and momo
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Post by: Cerveza mas fina on January 02, 2013, 08:27:41 AM
No WiiU exclusive in top 40... WiiU is deader then Vita which has 3 games there.

(http://i.imgur.com/Pxv4P.png)
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: DCharlieJP on January 02, 2013, 08:41:05 AM
http://n4g.com/news/1147849/europe-weekly-chart-ending-22nd-dec-2012

ignore - VGC.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on January 02, 2013, 08:47:08 AM
Where do those numbers come from?

Crazy how popular PS3 is versus 360 here, but MS has made great strides this gen. Sony might lose  their stronghold if they dont put some extra effort into this region (like launching here first...).
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Post by: Cascade on January 02, 2013, 08:47:43 AM
Quote from: Premium Lager on January 02, 2013, 08:47:08 AM
Where do those numbers come from?
VGChartz.
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Post by: maxy on January 02, 2013, 08:47:56 AM
vgchartz

why DC,why
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Post by: Cerveza mas fina on January 02, 2013, 08:48:36 AM
Ffs DCharlie

Poor Oscar, first the mockery, now this.
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Post by: DCharlieJP on January 02, 2013, 08:51:04 AM
I didn't see the source until i went back. Sheesh - time to bail out and leave you all too it. lol.
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Post by: Purple Filth on January 02, 2013, 01:45:47 PM
Dcharlie what happened to you man  :-\

spoiler (click to show/hide)
LOL
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Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on January 02, 2013, 01:55:20 PM
rememebver when i used to be thte worst poster in a thread now i have to put effort in not sucking
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Post by: Tasty on January 02, 2013, 02:07:46 PM
Quote from: MyNameIsMethodis on January 02, 2013, 01:55:20 PM
rememebver when i used to be thte worst poster in a thread now i have to put effort in not sucking

I remember it like it was half a second ago.
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Post by: Beezy on January 02, 2013, 02:07:51 PM
Quote from: MyNameIsMethodis on January 02, 2013, 01:55:20 PM
rememebver when i used to be thte worst poster in a thread now i have to put effort in not sucking
:lol
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Post by: Tasty on January 02, 2013, 03:54:56 PM
Should have put more effort into matching the rhythm of the original song. D+ effort.
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Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on January 02, 2013, 06:23:23 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17lkdqoLt44

The official Wii U theme song, now more than ever.
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Post by: Himu on January 02, 2013, 06:45:25 PM
Quote from: The Experiment on January 02, 2013, 06:23:23 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17lkdqoLt44

The official Wii U theme song, now more than ever.

this shit will never get old
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: maxy on January 04, 2013, 03:47:09 AM
I guess this is some sales data

From Pachter comment on Sony used games block thing

Quote
"The company's first party software sales represent less than 10 percent of overall sales on its consoles
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Post by: archnemesis on January 04, 2013, 04:17:12 AM
Quote from: Borys on January 04, 2013, 04:07:46 AM
Nice tidbit but it's so obvious.

Uncharted, God of War etc. sales pale in comparison to yearly CoD/ Skyrim/ Madden. Besides you do not get a new Uncharted/ GoWar every year.
2005 - God of War
2007 - God of War II
2007 - God of War: Betrayal
2007 - Uncharted: Drake's Fortune
2008 - God of War: Chains of Olympus
2009 - Uncharted 2: Among Thieves
2010 - God of War III
2010 - God of War: Ghost of Sparta
2011 - Uncharted 3: Drake's Deception
2012 - Uncharted: Golden Abyss
2013 - God of War: Ascension

Even if Sony's first party output isn't dominating the sales charts, it's one of the most important things that drives the sales of the hardware.
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Post by: maxy on January 04, 2013, 05:46:31 AM
Quote
Even if Sony's first party output isn't dominating the sales charts, it's one of the most important things that drives the sales of the hardware.
That sounds like a contradiction.
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Post by: Cascade on January 04, 2013, 05:54:02 AM
UK's top 10 publishers for 2012 (AKA: Dat Sony first party lineup sellin powah!)
Code: [Select]
2012's TOP BOXED GAMES PUBLISHERS

1. EA
2. Activision
3. Ubisoft
4. Nintendo
5. Microsoft
6. Sega
7. Warner Bros
8. Take-Two
9. THQ
10. Square Enix
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Post by: archnemesis on January 04, 2013, 05:56:22 AM
Quote from: maxy on January 04, 2013, 05:46:31 AM
Quote
Even if Sony's first party output isn't dominating the sales charts, it's one of the most important things that drives the sales of the hardware.
That sounds like a contradiction.
It's not. Exclusives together with price is what makes people buy a PS3 over a 360 or a gaming PC. For people who are only interesting in Call of Duty and FIFA/Madden (depending on which side of the pond you live) the price is the deciding factor. For people with a bit more diverse taste it's a combination of the two.
Title: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: Shaka Khan on January 04, 2013, 06:05:01 AM
This generation has proved to me how little shit I give about Sony's first party games. The only games I genuinely ended up caring for are U2 and Infamous 1.
Title: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: Shaka Khan on January 04, 2013, 06:11:08 AM
What do you think of their investments in new IPs and acquisitions from a business perspective in the short and long term, Oscar?
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Post by: maxy on January 04, 2013, 06:29:21 AM
Quote from: archnemesis on January 04, 2013, 05:56:22 AM
Quote from: maxy on January 04, 2013, 05:46:31 AM
Quote
Even if Sony's first party output isn't dominating the sales charts, it's one of the most important things that drives the sales of the hardware.
That sounds like a contradiction.
It's not. Exclusives together with price is what makes people buy a PS3 over a 360 or a gaming PC. For people who are only interesting in Call of Duty and FIFA/Madden (depending on which side of the pond you live) the price is the deciding factor. For people with a bit more diverse taste it's a combination of the two.
So this is more like some psychological stuff,since software sales don't reflect that.Like people buying PS3 because they know it has large pool of exclusives and then cherry picking one of them and buy other nine from third parties?
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Post by: Cerveza mas fina on January 04, 2013, 06:59:59 AM
How much did the Killzone games sell Oscar?
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Post by: maxy on January 04, 2013, 07:19:27 AM
thx for your insight Oscar

Can you say something about current Uncharted series LTD(US)?
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Post by: maxy on January 04, 2013, 07:28:18 AM
thx
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Post by: Shaka Khan on January 04, 2013, 07:28:47 AM
Excellent write-up man, thanks for that.

 The mess in Europe is really unfortunate, and it gets scarier when you consider how awful the business in doing there overall.

I'll also agree that ND was probably their smartest studio investment, with GG being their least. In a way I'm confused by Sony taking huge risks on such an unproven IP/Studio. Wouldn't financing and publishing their games then testing their viability in the market first be a better idea? Or were they afraid of their value going up? That's how the acquisitions of ND, SP, MM and Zipper worked out, iirc.

Other terrible investments they made imo were Move and the heavy 3D push, I don't have any numbers to back this up other than knowing neither were a runaway success, doing modestly at best.
Title: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: Shaka Khan on January 04, 2013, 07:31:07 AM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on January 04, 2013, 07:27:26 AM
Just left the office so it'll have to wait til tomorrow.  Off the top of my head, 1 and 2 are just over a million each.  3 is a lot lower.

That's surprisingly low. I guess the hype this series have on the tubes is extremely disproportionate.
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Post by: Cerveza mas fina on January 04, 2013, 07:38:14 AM
I'm suprised Sony nor MS haven't picked up a cheap Eastern European studio yet.

That would cost a fraction to run compared to Guerilla Games in the Netherlands. Prob the same results too.

Quote from: Shaka Khan on January 04, 2013, 07:31:07 AM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on January 04, 2013, 07:27:26 AM
Just left the office so it'll have to wait til tomorrow.  Off the top of my head, 1 and 2 are just over a million each.  3 is a lot lower.

That's surprisingly low. I guess the hype this series have on the tubes is extremely disproportionate.

Yeah overall it seems very low, but Im pretty  sure if this is NA/JPN numbers you can double them for WW since Europe is Sony's biggest market (and I don't think Killzone/Uncharted sell in JPN anyway).

So going by that the numbers still arent crazy but each KZ/UC has sold between 1 and 3 million WW.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: Tasty on January 04, 2013, 09:55:00 AM
Quote from: Premium Lager on January 04, 2013, 06:59:59 AM
How much did the Killzone games sell Oscar?

Too much.
spoiler (click to show/hide)
:teehee
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Post by: Eel O'Brian on January 04, 2013, 09:55:47 AM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on January 04, 2013, 06:58:13 AM
Gaikai was a really fucking smart pick-up.

Yeah, it definitely was. That purchase alone gives them an "in" to almost every Smart TV/media box/mobile device out there, covers the BC situation going forward, and can easily be folded into PS+ subscription plans. Probably the smartest thing they've done this entire generation.
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Post by: Don Flamenco on January 04, 2013, 10:04:45 AM
whoa whoa whoa guys, it's sony.  lets see how they use it first! 

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Post by: Eel O'Brian on January 04, 2013, 10:10:33 AM
cloud-based H :-\ ME
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Post by: Himu on January 04, 2013, 10:12:29 AM
Quote from: Shaka Khan on January 04, 2013, 06:05:01 AM
This generation has proved to me how little shit I give about Sony's first party games. The only games I genuinely ended up caring for are U2 and Infamous 1.

Disagree. Their name used to command more power and more variety. This gen they've taken a hit. They've made less experimental games like Rule of Rose, Vib Ribbon, Shadow of the Colossus, and Parappa the Rapper and more safe games. This makes sense because it's the entire industry doing it. The only reason you only care about U2 and Infamous is because that's really the only great games they've put out this gen. They haven't even put out a Shadow of the Colossus equivalent.
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Post by: Himu on January 04, 2013, 10:27:42 AM
Sony didn't even have a Dark Cloud equivalent game this gen. Sony really dropped the ball. They used to be a very balanced developer and publisher that released adult games on top of family friend games like Parappa, Dark Cloud, Jak/Ratchet/Sly;etc. Now they're all about dat adult audience.

I want a new Dark Cloud. :(

psx and ps2 era Sony were better than Nintendo at securing quality first party content.  :'(

Quote from: Premium Lager on January 02, 2013, 08:27:41 AM
No WiiU exclusive in top 40... WiiU is deader then Vita which has 3 games there.

(http://i.imgur.com/Pxv4P.png)

Wait till

Mario
Yoshi Land
Bayonetta 2
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: Great Rumbler on January 04, 2013, 10:33:48 AM
A modern Dark Cloud without those nasty randomized dungeons would be nice.
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Post by: Himu on January 04, 2013, 10:50:15 AM
Quote from: Great Rumbler on January 04, 2013, 10:33:48 AM
A modern Dark Cloud without those nasty randomized dungeons would be nice.

I don't think you get the point of Dark Cloud.  >:( :maf
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Post by: Great Rumbler on January 04, 2013, 11:09:05 AM
Quote from: Formerly Known As Himuro on January 04, 2013, 10:50:15 AM
Quote from: Great Rumbler on January 04, 2013, 10:33:48 AM
A modern Dark Cloud without those nasty randomized dungeons would be nice.

I don't think you get the point of Dark Cloud.  >:( :maf

Not mucking around in nasty randomized dungeons, I know that much.
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Post by: Himu on January 04, 2013, 11:11:26 AM
Getting the next item for the town is the best part and the random nature of the dungeon makes this fun! The worst part of Dark Cloud series has been the combat. It's not that good and has too many Zelda-isms.

The appeal of Dark Cloud is dungeon crawling, and getting into the depths of the dungeon to uncover more cool shit for your town. The lack of random dungeons would make perusing dungeons a chore because they would be expected and familiar and given how often you do dungeon crawl, that would make the game more repetitive than it already is.

Game design 101 Rumbler-san.
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Post by: Great Rumbler on January 04, 2013, 11:21:35 AM
Yeah, because going through 100 different levels of a dungeon that are all exactly the same except sometimes the item layout is a little bit different is SO MUCH FUN.

Randomized dungeons aren't always bad, but SIMPLISTIC randomized dungeons with dull, repetitive combat certainly are.
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Post by: Himu on January 04, 2013, 11:24:09 AM
How do you suggest they fix it then? Clearly the combat is a bigger problem than dungeon layout.
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Post by: Great Rumbler on January 04, 2013, 11:30:00 AM
Quote from: Formerly Known As Himuro on January 04, 2013, 11:24:09 AM
How do you suggest they fix it then? Clearly the combat is a bigger problem than dungeon layout.

The combat is a bit problem, yes, but it would also be less of a problem if the act of dungeoneering itself were a bit more interesting. And it wouldn't be THAT hard to spice things up in the randomized dungeons:

-More variety of rooms [larger, more complex, varying elevations, ect.]
-Traps
-Unique aspects [items, monsters, types of rooms]
-In-dungeon sidequests [pretty much everything in Dark Cloud was just "find key, find exit"]
-Random encounters with NPCs in dungeons

There's a lot of stuff they could do other than just plopping down a few square rooms and adding in some monsters.

Or just throw in some sweet loot and call it a day.
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Post by: Himu on January 04, 2013, 11:34:11 AM
Yes, but from your language you made it seem like the problem was that they were random. :smug Of course they could do a lot to expand upon the dungeons, but the idea of them being random wasn't why they were bad.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: Don Flamenco on January 04, 2013, 11:38:44 AM
Quote from: Eel O'Brian on January 04, 2013, 10:10:33 AM
cloud-based H :-\ ME


or this is their DRM trick.  Each "retail disc" is actually a unique code that unlocks the ability to play PS4 games, which are safely stored on the other side of the cloud, so nobody can sell or pirate them.

and every time you want to access it, you have to boot up H :-\ ME and wait in line for the game.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: Great Rumbler on January 04, 2013, 11:43:55 AM
Quote from: Formerly Known As Himuro on January 04, 2013, 11:34:11 AM
Yes, but from your language you made it seem like the problem was that they were random. :smug Of course they could do a lot to expand upon the dungeons, but the idea of them being random wasn't why they were bad.

You'll note that I used the word "nasty" as a descriptor in my original post. Lern2reading, please.
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Post by: Himu on January 04, 2013, 11:49:18 AM
Well, your post could be read in two ways:

1. Those are random dungeons which are nasty and are not nasty BECAUSE they're random, but because they're shit

or

2. they're nasty BECAUSE they're random.

A lot of people have issues with random dungeons. So which am I more likely to think?
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: Great Rumbler on January 04, 2013, 11:54:50 AM
Either way, Dark Cloud has dungeons that aren't much fun and there's no awesome combat to offset that. Well, they probably won't make another anyway, since the head guy is off making adult fantasy RPGs [White Knight Chronicles] and puzzle games for kids [Layton series].

Quote from: Borys on January 04, 2013, 11:53:16 AM
I think you two lameos should stop around now.

shut up
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Post by: Himu on January 04, 2013, 12:00:30 PM
Dark Souls isn't a game where you collect loot to build towns and synthesize items either. That's a really weird comparison.
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Post by: Great Rumbler on January 04, 2013, 12:02:03 PM
dangit
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Post by: Himu on January 04, 2013, 12:06:22 PM
Oh, you meant Dark Cloud! Well! Game owns despite the flaws.

BRING ALL THE FLAWS.

(http://i.imgur.com/772rL.jpg)
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Post by: maxy on January 04, 2013, 12:07:56 PM
Quote
I think you two lameos should stop around now.

Yeah,what has this to do with sales?

Open Dark Cloud/Souls thread,you lamers
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: Himu on January 04, 2013, 12:14:11 PM
It's a side talk about how Sony is less willing to spend on projects like Dark Cloud series unlike the past, so in a way it is tied to sales.
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Post by: Great Rumbler on January 04, 2013, 12:16:27 PM
Dark Cloud 2 seems to have sold a decent amount and Level-5 certainly isn't above continuing to make more kid-friendly titles, so it's a bit weird that they haven't come back to the franchise again. Is it actually owned by Sony?
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Post by: maxy on January 04, 2013, 12:20:48 PM
UK
Quote
The Top 20 Games of 2012:

1. Call of Duty: Black Ops II - Activision
2. FIFA 13 - Electronic Arts
3. Assassin's Creed III - Ubisoft
4. Halo 4 - Microsoft
5. Hitman Absolution - Square Enix
6. Just Dance 4 - Ubisoft
7. Far Cry 3 - Ubisoft
8. FIFA 12 - Electronic Arts
9. The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim - Bethesda
10. Borderlands 2 - 2K Games
11. Mass Effect 3 - Electronic Arts
12. LEGO Batman 2: DC Super Heroes - Warner Bros
13. Need for Speed: Most Wanted - Electronic Arts
14. FIFA Street - Electronic Arts
15. Mario & Sonic: London 2012 Olympic Games
16. Skylanders Giants - Activision
17. Battlefield 3 - Electronic Arts
18. Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3 - Activision
19. Max Payne 3 - Rockstar
20. Sleeping Dogs - Square Enix
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Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on January 04, 2013, 12:44:40 PM
I wish theyd put Dark Cloud 2 on PSN
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Post by: Stoney Mason on January 04, 2013, 12:49:32 PM
Quote from: maxy on January 04, 2013, 12:20:48 PM
UK
Quote
The Top 20 Games of 2012:

1. Call of Duty: Black Ops II - Activision
2. FIFA 13 - Electronic Arts
3. Assassin's Creed III - Ubisoft
4. Halo 4 - Microsoft
5. Hitman Absolution - Square Enix
6. Just Dance 4 - Ubisoft
7. Far Cry 3 - Ubisoft
8. FIFA 12 - Electronic Arts
9. The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim - Bethesda
10. Borderlands 2 - 2K Games
11. Mass Effect 3 - Electronic Arts
12. LEGO Batman 2: DC Super Heroes - Warner Bros
13. Need for Speed: Most Wanted - Electronic Arts
14. FIFA Street - Electronic Arts
15. Mario & Sonic: London 2012 Olympic Games
16. Skylanders Giants - Activision
17. Battlefield 3 - Electronic Arts
18. Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3 - Activision
19. Max Payne 3 - Rockstar
20. Sleeping Dogs - Square Enix

Surprising but good that far cry 3 sold that well.
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Post by: maxy on January 04, 2013, 07:49:18 PM
Harker in WiiU sales below expectations thread
Quote
sales are below expectations :(
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Post by: maxy on January 04, 2013, 08:32:53 PM
thx again

Is Uncharted best selling Vita game?
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Post by: maxy on January 04, 2013, 09:24:13 PM
titanic.gif
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Post by: AdmiralViscen on January 04, 2013, 11:45:03 PM
I'd still buy one if I didn't have to spend another $100 on a memory card
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Post by: Don Flamenco on January 05, 2013, 09:50:02 AM
good lord.  how is that even possible?   Hasn't the system cracked a million in the U.S.?   

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Post by: Purple Filth on January 05, 2013, 11:32:03 AM
Quote from: maxy on January 04, 2013, 09:24:13 PM
titanic.gif

didn't even need that pesky iceburg.
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Post by: lunchwithyuzo on January 05, 2013, 02:01:54 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on January 04, 2013, 08:36:21 PM
Yeah, it is.  Nothing else is even close.  It's double the 2nd best seller.  Vita's only got four games over 100k in NA.
UMV3, Unit 13 & Restistance?

How many 3DS games are over 100k? :3
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Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on January 05, 2013, 02:12:22 PM
Do not answer him oscar cuz he used that stupid fucking emote
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Post by: Shaka Khan on January 05, 2013, 04:32:27 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on January 04, 2013, 08:36:21 PM
Yeah, it is.  Nothing else is even close.  It's double the 2nd best seller.  Vita's only got four games over 100k in NA.

:rofl
:fbm
:rofl
Rinse, repeat...

Edit: Oscar, please don't answer Yuzo. He's not a bro who earned the right to know these tidbits. I can already see him regurgitating this info in a petty argument elsewhere to serve some childish agenda.
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Post by: Don Flamenco on January 05, 2013, 04:34:16 PM
that's a great combination of emotes :lol
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Post by: lunchwithyuzo on January 05, 2013, 05:11:57 PM
3:
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Post by: Shaka Khan on January 05, 2013, 05:18:39 PM
:drake
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Post by: Himu on January 05, 2013, 05:20:32 PM
Quote from: lunchwithyuzo on January 05, 2013, 05:11:57 PM
3:

(http://www.the-coli.com/images/smilies/obama.png)
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Post by: Cerveza mas fina on January 05, 2013, 05:46:18 PM
I really didnt know oscar was an insider sales guru

If so, dont answer yuzo.
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Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on January 05, 2013, 06:09:07 PM
Thank you for the hint about Rocksmith tho and Harmonix inevitable foreclosure :)
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on January 05, 2013, 06:15:52 PM
Quote from: Borys on January 05, 2013, 06:10:40 PM
:lol @ yuzo trying his luck.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2lBBmSFbfKg
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: Father_Brain on January 05, 2013, 07:10:54 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on January 04, 2013, 08:36:21 PM
Yeah, it is.  Nothing else is even close.  It's double the 2nd best seller.  Vita's only got four games over 100k in NA.

That doesn't include bundled software, though, does it?
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: lunchwithyuzo on January 05, 2013, 07:18:48 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on January 05, 2013, 06:07:20 PM
I'm broad enough with numbers I give here that my source is at little risk.  I'm not an Ask Zoltan machine, though.  I give my hints when and to whom I feel like.

Yuzo, my gut tells me you will use the info for evil purposes, so you get nothing today, sorry.
You're right, I totally would.  But I know there's over 25 at least, so I will anyway. :D
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: Don Flamenco on January 05, 2013, 07:31:00 PM
leper yuzo
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on January 05, 2013, 07:55:21 PM
seriously
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: Father_Brain on January 05, 2013, 08:15:07 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on January 05, 2013, 08:00:22 PM
It does, but the bundled software you're thinking of is very close to 100k and likely passed it in December.

Neither of Vita's saviors broke 100K across all SKUs in November? Wow.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: Steve Contra on January 05, 2013, 08:49:06 PM
Quote from: Purple Filth on January 05, 2013, 11:32:03 AM
Quote from: maxy on January 04, 2013, 09:24:13 PM
titanic.gif

didn't even need that pesky iceburg.
Yeah, they just built the thing at the bottom of the sea so they wouldn't have to bother trying.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: Third on January 06, 2013, 12:22:42 PM
VGchartzzz has WiiU at 2.21mln sold WW.

LMAO, does that mean dec NPD is going to be over 1mln WiiU's sold?
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: Eel O'Brian on January 06, 2013, 12:25:43 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on January 05, 2013, 08:49:26 PM

the only remarkable thing is that wiiU stuff is selling even worse.

everyone's waiting for their system updates to finish first so they can load up at the eshop, march 2013 1000% increase in sales
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: Mpl90 on January 06, 2013, 02:04:43 PM
Quote from: Third on January 06, 2013, 12:22:42 PM
VGchartzzz has WiiU at 2.21mln sold WW.

LMAO, does that mean dec NPD is going to be over 1mln WiiU's sold?

No, it just means they're clueless as always.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: Mpl90 on January 06, 2013, 02:11:02 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on January 05, 2013, 08:49:26 PM
i would hope nobody was under the mistaken impression that vita (or 3ds outside japan) software is selling anywhere near acceptable numbers.

the only remarkable thing is that wiiU stuff is selling even worse.

Wait. Outside of Nintendo titles, I remember titles like Sonic, Skylanders, Tales of and Lego titles doing decent / well. At least in US. creamsugar posted both Vita and 3DS US top 20 up to June and 3DS showed generally not so bad software sales, with just Resident Evil: Revelations shining as the biggest flop by far.

And in the Vita list, Marvel v.s. Capcom shined as a game that didn't do as bad as everyone expected ( over 100k)

Here's both the list

01. Uncharted: Golden Abyss
200k
02. Ultimate Marvel vs Capcom 3
100k
03. Unit 13
04. MLB: The Show 12
05. Modnation Racers: Road Trip
06. FIFA Soccer
07. WipEout 2048
08. Mortal Kombat
09. Rayman Origins
10. Hot Shots Golf
50k
11. Resistance: Burning Skies
12. Ninja Gaiden Sigma Plus
40k
13. Gravity Rush
14. Little Deviants
15. Dungeon Hunter: Alliance
30k
16. Metal Gear Solid HD
17. Lumines: Electronic Symphony
18. Dynasty Warriors Next
19. Ridge Racer
20k
20. Touch My Katamari

01. SM 3D Land
2m
02. MK7
1.5m
03. Zelda
1m
400k
04. Pokemon
05. SF64 3D
06. SSF4 3D
300k
07. KI:U
08. Lego SW3
09. PR
250k
10. Sonic
11. Spyro
200k
12. Olympic
13. Dog cat bulldog
14. Dog cat retriever
15. Dog cat toy
16. Lego PotC
150k
17. RE:R
18. Asphalt 3D
19. Rayman 3D
20. SMB 3D
130k
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on January 06, 2013, 06:47:39 PM
So basically people are just buying Mario 3D Land, Mario Kart 7, and Zelda, and nothing else?
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: pilonv1 on January 06, 2013, 06:54:26 PM
I don't think people have bought Zelda since launch.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: Joe Molotov on January 06, 2013, 06:54:50 PM
Quote from: The Experiment on January 06, 2013, 06:47:39 PM
So basically people are just buying Mario 3D Land, Mario Kart 7, and Zelda, and nothing else?

3DS has Mario 3D Land, Mario Kart 7, Zelda, and nothing else. Vita just has the nothing else.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: Third on January 06, 2013, 07:12:32 PM
This week will have two media create charts and NPD. And of course the PAL charts tomorrow.

I wonder if WiiU has surpassed its november number in NPD...
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: AdmiralViscen on January 06, 2013, 07:16:09 PM
How did Theatrhythm do?
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: Third on January 06, 2013, 07:17:07 PM
Is that one ever coming to Android?
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: maxy on January 07, 2013, 03:21:56 AM
http://www.famitsu.com/news/201301/07026912.html

3DS    266790
PSP   　34145
Vita   　18022
Wii   　   8094
Wii U    76760
PS3      54107
360   　  2283

Also PS2 production has stopped wordwide
http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2013/jan/04/playstation-2-manufacture-ends-years

Iwata interview

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/01/07/us-nintendo-console-sales-idUSBRE90605420130107

Quote
The company, which grew from making playing cards in the late 19th century into the blockbuster Super Mario video game series, is pinning its hopes on the Wii U after posting a first operating loss last year, as gamers ditch console games to play on smartphones and tablets.

"At the end of the Christmas season, it wasn't as though stores in the U.S. had no Wii U left in stock, as it was when Wii was first sold in that popular boom. But sales are not bad, and I feel it's selling steadily," Nintendo President Satoru Iwata said in an interview.

Iwata gave no details on sales or forecasts, but said Nintendo needed to focus on developing attractive software for its 3DS handheld device to draw new users, and increase Wii U sales as it battles competition from popular mobile devices. The Wii U carries video content from Netflix Inc and Hulu, and has a dedicated social gaming network called Miiverse, which allows users to interact and share games tips.

Quote
Iwata acknowledged the challenge of producing two Wii U models at the same time, as most customers wanted the premium package, which sold out quickly in many places, while there was a glut of the slightly cheaper Wii U model on store shelves.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on January 07, 2013, 05:38:03 AM
Everything is a fucking challenge to Nintendo it seems
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: maxy on January 07, 2013, 05:51:06 AM
Dealing with EA is also very tough

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/gaming/news/a448410/crysis-3-not-coming-to-wii-u-due-to-lack-of-business-drive.html
Quote
Crysis 3 won't receive a Wii U version, it has been confirmed.

Despite being a "possibility" last year, CEO and founder of Crytek Cevat Yerli said "there is no Wii U version" due to a lack of "business drive" between publisher EA and Nintendo.

"There has been discussions between Nintendo and EA and Crytek, but the bottom line is that there is that there's not enough business drive in it," he told Digital Spy.

"It's a purely business decision. I'd love to see it on Wii U, but what I love to see and what gets done at the end of the day are two different things. Even so, I could initiate it but someone has to sell it, right?"
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: DCharlieJP on January 07, 2013, 06:30:55 AM
The WiiU is sold out everywhere in Tokyo*




* except in all the stores in built up areas across the city - same as from the first week
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: pilonv1 on January 07, 2013, 06:49:40 AM
Quote from: maxy on January 07, 2013, 05:51:06 AM
Dealing with EA is also very tough

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/gaming/news/a448410/crysis-3-not-coming-to-wii-u-due-to-lack-of-business-drive.html
Quote
Crysis 3 won't receive a Wii U version, it has been confirmed.

Despite being a "possibility" last year, CEO and founder of Crytek Cevat Yerli said "there is no Wii U version" due to a lack of "business drive" between publisher EA and Nintendo.

"There has been discussions between Nintendo and EA and Crytek, but the bottom line is that there is that there's not enough business drive in it," he told Digital Spy.

"It's a purely business decision. I'd love to see it on Wii U, but what I love to see and what gets done at the end of the day are two different things. Even so, I could initiate it but someone has to sell it, right?"

lazy everyone
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: maxy on January 07, 2013, 08:11:13 AM
UK charts
http://www.chart-track.co.uk/index.jsp?c=p/software/uk/latest/index_test.jsp&ct=110032

As expected,nothing has changed,no WiiU in top 40.Maybe it will pop up in few weeks(when market goes back to disaster status).
Title: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: Shaka Khan on January 07, 2013, 08:23:09 AM
Goddamn 3DS is never coming down. Basically the JP numbers are offsetting all the low to modest numbers it's generating everywhere else. Which works out great since it saves them the trouble of worrying about exchange rates.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: maxy on January 07, 2013, 08:32:13 AM
gaf cp,famitsu news

Quote
                      2012          YOY        USD
SOFTWARE   ¥271.21 billion (-1.3%) $3.106 billion
HARDWARE   ¥177.98 billion (-1.0%) $2.040 billion

TOTAL      ¥449.19 billion (-1.1%) $5.144 billion

Physical retail sales only.
2012 had 53 weeks, 2011, 52.

Quote
                                                                             2012      /   TOTAL      PUBLISHER       RELEASE DATE

 1 [NDS] Pokémon Black 2 / White 2                     2,879,027   / 2,879,027    Pokemon Co.      2012-06-23
 2 [3DS] Animal Crossing: New Leaf                     2,286,977   / 2,286,977    Nintendo         2012-11-08
 3 [3DS] New Super Mario Bros. 2                       1,780,493   / 1,780,493    Nintendo         2012-07-28
 4 [3DS] Dragon Quest Monsters:TW3D               899,410   /   899,410    Square Enix      2012-05-31
 5 [PS3] One Piece: Pirate Warriors                      825,860   /   825,860    Bandai Namco     2012-03-01
 6 [3DS] Mario Kart 7                                    822,542   / 1,904,933    Nintendo         2011-12-01
 7 [PS3] Resident Evil 6                                 821,053   /   821,053    Capcom           2012-10-04
 8 [3DS] Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate                       776,171   / 1,585,493    Capcom           2011-12-10
 9 [3DS] Super Mario 3D Land                             738,109   / 1,780,620    Nintendo         2011-11-03
10 [WII] Dragon Quest X Online                           633,827   /   633,827    Square Enix      2012-08-02

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                  2012  /          TOTAL

3DS          5,626,763  /       9,762,502
PS3          1,327,185  /       8,744,333
PSP            941,992  /      19,179,100
Vita           674,365  /       1,077,159
Wii U          638,339  /         638,339
Wii            492,999  /      12,660,742
Xbox 360        67,273  /       1,588,011
DS              28,627  /      32,863,798
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: Don Flamenco on January 07, 2013, 08:35:34 AM
RE6 sold 821k there?  crazy.  I'm surprised Japan has stuck with the series instead of getting turned off by its change in focus.
Title: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: Shaka Khan on January 07, 2013, 09:39:37 AM
If I'm not mistaken it enjoyed a great debut but then dropped like a rock, even Capcom said something about it.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: Tasty on January 07, 2013, 10:14:26 AM
YoY is down but that's better than I was bracing for, guess Japan isn't doing so bad. And yeah, at least part of Nintendo's financial department is probably thrilled they're not getting gangraped by exchange rates for the time being.

One Piece game being on there is pretty surprising me, I've only recently realized how big that series has become in Japan but I wasn't expecting a licensed game to make top 10. But a rising franchise tide lifts all media boats, as they say.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on January 07, 2013, 10:25:43 AM
In a week or two PS3 might overtake WiiU again in Japan it seems. Well played Nintendo.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: Phoenix Dark on January 07, 2013, 10:42:18 AM
It's weird that they made the same mistake twice: launching a system with no memorable software. The 3DS quickly rebounded though, and I figured the WiiU would have a killer app from Nintendo, plus a big third party title. Nope...

What if they launched with Mario Kart, and an exclusive third party fps for NA/EU instead of the pos Zombie game.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: ToxicAdam on January 07, 2013, 10:51:04 AM
Wasn't the DS the same way until NintenDogs came out?


DS Launch
Quote
Asphalt Urban GT (Gameloft)
Feel the Magic: XY/XX (Sega)
Madden NFL 2005 (Electronic Arts)
Ping Pals (THQ)
Ridge Racer DS (Namco)
Spider-Man 2 (Activision)
Sprung (Ubisoft)
Metroid Prime Hunters: First Hunt (Nintendo)
Super Mario 64 DS (Nintendo)
The Urbz: Sims in the City (Electronic Arts)
Tiger Woods PGA Tour (Electronic Arts)
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on January 07, 2013, 10:53:01 AM
Quote from: Phoenix Dark on January 07, 2013, 10:42:18 AM
It's weird that they made the same mistake twice: launching a system with no memorable software. The 3DS quickly rebounded though, and I figured the WiiU would have a killer app from Nintendo, plus a big third party title. Nope...

What if they launched with Mario Kart, and an exclusive third party fps for NA/EU instead of the pos Zombie game.

Unless they managed to get THE Call of Duty and it didn't show up on any other platform, a exclusive third party FPS would've been just as pointless / floppy
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: Tasty on January 07, 2013, 10:56:16 AM
Wii U will do fine in Japan, probably PS3 levels if not more, which is about as much as you can expect home consoles to do there nowadays. They'll sail the sales sea smoothly on the back of MH HD ports, Animal Crossing, Kirby, Mario, DQ, and if they're lucky some exclusive Tales games.

Nintendo really only has to worry about the west, and man, they definitely have to be sweating.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on January 07, 2013, 11:03:21 AM
It won't do PS3 levels. The second the PS4 comes out in Japan, as long as Sony don't fuck it up, the Wiiu will do 360 levels.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on January 07, 2013, 11:11:09 AM
Quote from: ToxicAdam on January 07, 2013, 10:51:04 AM
Wasn't the DS the same way until Nintendo Dogs came out?

DS is before smartphones.

People won't pay 40 dollars for Brain Training/Nintendo Dogs and a 150 dollar console to play that shovelware now (in the west).

Quote from: Andrex on January 07, 2013, 10:56:16 AM
Wii U will do fine in Japan, probably PS3 levels if not more, which is about as much as you can expect home consoles to do there nowadays. They'll sail the sales sea smoothly on the back of MH HD ports, Animal Crossing, Kirby, Mario, DQ, and if they're lucky some exclusive Tales games.

Nintendo really only has to worry about the west, and man, they definitely have to be sweating.

Why would it do PS3 levels?  :lol

Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: Great Rumbler on January 07, 2013, 11:21:46 AM
Quote from: ToxicAdam on January 07, 2013, 10:51:04 AM
Wasn't the DS the same way until Nintendo Dogs came out?


DS Launch
Quote
Asphalt Urban GT (Gameloft)
Feel the Magic: XY/XX (Sega)
Madden NFL 2005 (Electronic Arts)
Ping Pals (THQ)
Ridge Racer DS (Namco)
Spider-Man 2 (Activision)
Sprung (Ubisoft)
Metroid Prime Hunters: First Hunt (Nintendo)
Super Mario 64 DS (Nintendo)
The Urbz: Sims in the City (Electronic Arts)
Tiger Woods PGA Tour (Electronic Arts)


Yes, and it sold rather poorly until then. And as Lager pointed out, we're now in the era of smartphones and sagging console sales. How Nintendo thought their 3DS/Wii U launch lineup would suffice in this environment, I can't imagine.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on January 07, 2013, 11:21:55 AM
Quote from: Borys on January 07, 2013, 11:12:35 AM
I dunno if you guys are joking but it will do massively better than PS3 and massively worse than the Wii.

But Wii did 12 million and PS3 is at 9 now.

So not that far apart.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: Tasty on January 07, 2013, 11:22:16 AM
Quote from: Premium Lager on January 07, 2013, 11:11:09 AM
Why would it do PS3 levels?  :lol

Why wouldn't it? PS3 succeeded in Japan despite Sony's homeland "efforts," while Nintendo has pretty much staked their flag on the island nation.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on January 07, 2013, 11:24:00 AM
I jsut dont' see why anyone in their right mind would buy super outdated tech in the WiiU once the PS4 comes out. If Sony manage to get the same price / cheaper than a WiiU then its game over for nintendo in japan
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: Tasty on January 07, 2013, 11:24:46 AM
Quote from: MyNameIsMethodis on January 07, 2013, 11:24:00 AM
I jsut dont' see why anyone in their right mind would buy super outdated tech in the WiiU once the PS4 comes out. If Sony manage to get the same price / cheaper than a WiiU then its game over for nintendo in japan

Just like the 3DS when the Vita hit.

This might be close to rocket science, but games sell hardware. PS3 got a second wind midway through this gen that has been carrying it very well.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on January 07, 2013, 11:25:53 AM
The 3DS had a price cut before the Vita hit and it's backwards compatible hth
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: Tasty on January 07, 2013, 11:27:39 AM
Quote from: MyNameIsMethodis on January 07, 2013, 11:25:53 AM
The 3DS had a price cut before the Vita hit and it's backwards compatible hth

You don't think PS4 will be more expensive than Wii U? Wii U can also pricecut before the PS3 launches. It probably will.

You think PS4 is going to have backwards compatibility? Wii U does, like 3DS.

Best we can expect is Sony using Gaikai but I'm doubtful that'll be at launch, or for non-PS+ members.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on January 07, 2013, 11:28:08 AM
Also the PS4 will get so many more games then Wii U  :lol

The reason why PS3 is still selling now.

This second wind is called GAMES
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: Tasty on January 07, 2013, 11:29:14 AM
Quote from: Premium Lager on January 07, 2013, 11:28:08 AM
Also the PS4 will get so many more games then Wii U  :lol

The reason why PS3 is still selling now.

I don't understand this post. PS3 is selling on the back of... nonexistent games for an unannounced system?

PS3 is selling because it has games Japanese gamers want, shocking I know.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on January 07, 2013, 11:31:40 AM
is that a compliment or a iunsult
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: Eel O'Brian on January 07, 2013, 11:34:13 AM
$50 price drop at e3, all models come with nintendoland...maybe pro controller pack-in?
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: Tasty on January 07, 2013, 11:36:04 AM
They'll probably give some more digital incentives.

Also if they don't announce the VC by E3 I'm going to cut someone.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: Tasty on January 07, 2013, 11:36:22 AM
Quote from: Premium Lager on January 07, 2013, 11:28:08 AM
This second wind is called GAMES

Right, that's what I said...
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: Don Flamenco on January 07, 2013, 11:38:15 AM
Quote from: Eel O'Brian on January 07, 2013, 11:34:13 AM
$50 price drop at e3, all models come with nintendoland...maybe pro controller pack-in?


i'm not in unless they bow apologetically in unison.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: maxy on January 07, 2013, 11:42:45 AM
Quote from: Andrex on January 07, 2013, 11:22:16 AM
Quote from: Premium Lager on January 07, 2013, 11:11:09 AM
Why would it do PS3 levels?  :lol

Why wouldn't it? PS3 succeeded in Japan despite Sony's homeland "efforts," while Nintendo has pretty much staked their flag on the island nation.

I that case Nintendo would have to get current PS3 demographics.You know,people that buy Yakuza,Tales and that sort of stuff and they are currently deeply rooted to PS3.
Why would they move to WiiU?

Sony fucking up PS4 like Vita + Nintendo plan B is a different thing though.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: Tasty on January 07, 2013, 11:42:56 AM
We'll probably see more of Bayo at E3, and maybe some Smash if we're lucky. Both are almost definitely 2014 though.

Possibly a DQX announcement as well, and maybe Retro's game.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: Tasty on January 07, 2013, 11:45:11 AM
Quote from: maxy on January 07, 2013, 11:42:45 AM
I that case Nintendo would have to get current PS3 demographics.You know,people that buy Yakuza,Tales and that sort of stuff and they are currently deeply rooted to PS3.
Why would they move to WiiU?

Sony fucking up PS4 like Vita + Nintendo plan B is a different thing though.

Nintendo getting Tales wouldn't be some massive deal, they've pulled off more shocking things before. Actually, I remember Iwata spotlighting Graces before it even had a name. Shame it didn't sell that well (or did it?)

Nintendo's been pretty aggressive at courting the "PS demographic" lately. I'm not saying it's a sure thing, but I'd be more surprised if they didn't attempt anything.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on January 07, 2013, 11:50:31 AM
How is nintendo targetting that demographic? Re6 on wiiu? Ffxiii LR?

???

Crysis 3?

Is there something like Gran Turismo?
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: Tasty on January 07, 2013, 11:54:46 AM
Quote from: Premium Lager on January 07, 2013, 11:50:31 AM
How is nintendo targetting that demographic? Re6 on wiiu? Ffxiii LR?

???

Crysis 3?

Is there something like Gran Turismo?

I meant on the 3DS, which gave hints at their current strategy.

MH, RE, MGS. All games which were traditionally associated with PS in Japan all got entries on 3DS, while the Vita didn't (well, it got MGS HD Collection.)

So far, Nintendo seems to be continuing this with Wii U. Publishing Bayo 2 and NG3+, collabing with the Tekken team, etc.

This isn't the same Nintendo as the one from the GameCube era which truly didn't care about third parties enough to actually reach out to them.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: maxy on January 07, 2013, 11:56:39 AM
Quote from: Andrex on January 07, 2013, 11:45:11 AM
Quote from: maxy on January 07, 2013, 11:42:45 AM
I that case Nintendo would have to get current PS3 demographics.You know,people that buy Yakuza,Tales and that sort of stuff and they are currently deeply rooted to PS3.
Why would they move to WiiU?

Sony fucking up PS4 like Vita + Nintendo plan B is a different thing though.

Nintendo getting Tales wouldn't be some massive deal, they've pulled off more shocking things before. Actually, I remember Iwata spotlighting Graces before it even had a name. Shame it didn't sell that well (or did it?)

Nintendo's been pretty aggressive at courting the "PS demographic" lately. I'm not saying it's a sure thing, but I'd be more surprised if they didn't attempt anything.

Dunno,but there is one more thing you have to consider,

Third party has pretty much avoided Wii in Japan even when it was selling much much better than PS3.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: Tasty on January 07, 2013, 12:07:14 PM
Quote from: maxy on January 07, 2013, 11:56:39 AM
Quote from: Andrex on January 07, 2013, 11:45:11 AM
Quote from: maxy on January 07, 2013, 11:42:45 AM
I that case Nintendo would have to get current PS3 demographics.You know,people that buy Yakuza,Tales and that sort of stuff and they are currently deeply rooted to PS3.
Why would they move to WiiU?

Sony fucking up PS4 like Vita + Nintendo plan B is a different thing though.

Nintendo getting Tales wouldn't be some massive deal, they've pulled off more shocking things before. Actually, I remember Iwata spotlighting Graces before it even had a name. Shame it didn't sell that well (or did it?)

Nintendo's been pretty aggressive at courting the "PS demographic" lately. I'm not saying it's a sure thing, but I'd be more surprised if they didn't attempt anything.

Dunno,but there is one more thing you have to consider,

Third party has pretty much avoided Wii in Japan even when it was selling much much better than PS3.

They weren't hot on the PS3 for a while. I'm still unsure what turned it around for that system, but I do remember Wii and PS3 both getting somewhat tepid responses at first.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: maxy on January 07, 2013, 12:20:36 PM
Games,what else.Guaranteed main entries in popular franchises.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: Eel O'Brian on January 07, 2013, 12:22:44 PM
Quote from: Andrex on January 07, 2013, 12:07:14 PM
Quote from: maxy on January 07, 2013, 11:56:39 AM
Quote from: Andrex on January 07, 2013, 11:45:11 AM
Quote from: maxy on January 07, 2013, 11:42:45 AM
I that case Nintendo would have to get current PS3 demographics.You know,people that buy Yakuza,Tales and that sort of stuff and they are currently deeply rooted to PS3.
Why would they move to WiiU?

Sony fucking up PS4 like Vita + Nintendo plan B is a different thing though.

Nintendo getting Tales wouldn't be some massive deal, they've pulled off more shocking things before. Actually, I remember Iwata spotlighting Graces before it even had a name. Shame it didn't sell that well (or did it?)

Nintendo's been pretty aggressive at courting the "PS demographic" lately. I'm not saying it's a sure thing, but I'd be more surprised if they didn't attempt anything.

Dunno,but there is one more thing you have to consider,

Third party has pretty much avoided Wii in Japan even when it was selling much much better than PS3.
I'm still unsure what turned it around for that system

price drops
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Post by: maxy on January 07, 2013, 12:29:46 PM
Yeah,games combined with that.
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Post by: Mr. Gundam on January 07, 2013, 12:32:41 PM
Quote from: Andrex on January 07, 2013, 11:45:11 AM
Quote from: maxy on January 07, 2013, 11:42:45 AM
I that case Nintendo would have to get current PS3 demographics.You know,people that buy Yakuza,Tales and that sort of stuff and they are currently deeply rooted to PS3.
Why would they move to WiiU?

Sony fucking up PS4 like Vita + Nintendo plan B is a different thing though.

Nintendo getting Tales wouldn't be some massive deal, they've pulled off more shocking things before. Actually, I remember Iwata spotlighting Graces before it even had a name. Shame it didn't sell that well (or did it?)

Graces on the Wii sold alright, but Graces f on the PS3 thumped it.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: Tasty on January 07, 2013, 12:42:41 PM
Quote from: maxy on January 07, 2013, 12:20:36 PM
Games,what else.Guaranteed main entries in popular franchises.

Well that's part of my confusion, as to why the games started coming and why they started selling.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on January 07, 2013, 12:43:15 PM
Bayo and NG sell like dogpoo no?
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Post by: Steve Contra on January 07, 2013, 12:45:17 PM
I think Bayo sold decent (maybe million+ worldwide?) but not enough to justify it's existence.  NG3 had a shit taken on it's face, for good reason.
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Post by: Mr. Gundam on January 07, 2013, 12:46:07 PM
Quote from: Andrex on January 07, 2013, 12:42:41 PM
Quote from: maxy on January 07, 2013, 12:20:36 PM
Games,what else.Guaranteed main entries in popular franchises.

Well that's part of my confusion, as to why the games started coming and why they started selling.

1. MS exclusivity windows were up and they could start work on PS3 versions.
2. Fanbase was there, but buying into the system very slowly. The sales of certain titles (RGG series, One Piece Musou, Hokuto Musou, Gundam EXVS, MGS4, SRWOG, FFXIII, Tales) would back this up.
3. Devs didn't want to make Wii games. Although, they did try. Wii got Super Robot Wars and Tales titles, so someone tried.

I don't know, I'm sure Oscar can fill you in.
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Post by: archnemesis on January 07, 2013, 12:46:11 PM
Bayonetta did alright, but on Wii U they'll both do worse.
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Post by: maxy on January 07, 2013, 12:57:33 PM
Quote from: Mr. Gundam on January 07, 2013, 12:46:07 PM
Quote from: Andrex on January 07, 2013, 12:42:41 PM
Quote from: maxy on January 07, 2013, 12:20:36 PM
Games,what else.Guaranteed main entries in popular franchises.

Well that's part of my confusion, as to why the games started coming and why they started selling.

1. MS exclusivity windows were up and they could start work on PS3 versions.
2. Fanbase was there, but buying into the system very slowly. The sales of certain titles (RGG series, One Piece Musou, Hokuto Musou, Gundam EXVS, MGS4, SRWOG, FFXIII, Tales) would back this up.
3. Devs didn't want to make Wii games. Although, they did try. Wii got Super Robot Wars and Tales titles, so someone tried.

I don't know, I'm sure Oscar can fill you in.

You also have to consider that Sony(PS3) had a lot of goodwill from publishers because of PS2.Just look at PSP early Western support.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: Tasty on January 07, 2013, 12:57:54 PM
MS exclusivity window is as convincing a theory as anything I've thought of, guess it could be that. Hmm...

Quote from: archnemesis on January 07, 2013, 12:46:11 PM
Bayonetta did alright, but on Wii U they'll both do worse.

Hmm, I dunno. Bayo 2 I can see doing well, Nintendo's usually a good publisher if anything else.
Title: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: Huff on January 07, 2013, 01:04:15 PM
depends on what you mean by well. it ill probably hit 150k ww
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Post by: Mr. Gundam on January 07, 2013, 01:07:15 PM
For the most part, people also seem to buy Nintendo consoles for Nintendo games.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: Tasty on January 07, 2013, 01:09:16 PM
Quote from: Mr. Gundam on January 07, 2013, 01:07:15 PM
For the most part, people also seem to buy Nintendo consoles for Nintendo games.

Less true in Japan.

Quote from: Huff on January 07, 2013, 01:04:15 PM
depends on what you mean by well. it ill probably hit 150k ww

Depends on the amount of time given. Should be a nice leggy game.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: maxy on January 07, 2013, 01:22:05 PM
I think you have way too much faith in people,most of the will probably just bitch bitch bitch.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: Momo on January 07, 2013, 01:50:14 PM
Quote from: Mr. Gundam on January 07, 2013, 01:07:15 PM
For the most part, people also seem to buy Nintendo consoles for Nintendo games.
I'd kinda rebuy another Wii for Dokapon Kingdom alone, well or a PS2. Cant find that game in print anywhere reliable :/
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: AdmiralViscen on January 07, 2013, 06:39:01 PM
Is DQX considered an uber flop?
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: Rahxephon91 on January 07, 2013, 06:42:14 PM
Quote from: AdmiralViscen on January 07, 2013, 06:39:01 PM
Is DQX considered an uber flop?
Isn't it an MMO? Don't think it has to do the usual DQ numbers to be successful. Plus it can continue to be a source of revenue long after its release. Like FFXI.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: AdmiralViscen on January 07, 2013, 06:45:59 PM
Yea, FF sure has been doing great since FF11
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: Himu on January 07, 2013, 07:04:54 PM
Quote from: Andrex on January 07, 2013, 11:54:46 AM
Quote from: Premium Lager on January 07, 2013, 11:50:31 AM
How is nintendo targetting that demographic? Re6 on wiiu? Ffxiii LR?

???

Crysis 3?

Is there something like Gran Turismo?

I meant on the 3DS, which gave hints at their current strategy.

MH, RE, MGS. All games which were traditionally associated with PS in Japan all got entries on 3DS, while the Vita didn't (well, it got MGS HD Collection.)

So far, Nintendo seems to be continuing this with Wii U. Publishing Bayo 2 and NG3+, collabing with the Tekken team, etc.

This isn't the same Nintendo as the one from the GameCube era which truly didn't care about third parties enough to actually reach out to them.

Monster Hunter had an entry on Wii. It is not associated with Playstation as it has appeared on more platforms than Playstation.

Resident Evil hasn't been associated with playstation since the fucking Dreamcast with Code Veronica. Mix in Gamecube getting exclusive Resident Evil content in the likes of Zero and Remake and exclusive 4 deal until the ps2 version dropped, and your argument falls through a massive, massive hole. That's without mentioning that Resident 1 (psx/saturn/pc/ds), 2 (psx/n64/pc/gc/dc), 3 (psx, pc, dc, gc), 4 (gc/ps2/360/ps3/pc), 5 (360/ps3/pc), and 6 (360/ps3/pc) are all multiplat titles. Actually, every RE aside from REmake and Zero (again, for Nintendo platform) are multiplat. And RE is a Sony franchise? LOL

Metal Gear Solid is a Sony franchise? I don't even have the time to go over this one.

You really don't know what you're talking about. Your definition of "traditionally a Sony franchise in Japan" seems to "anything that Nintendo didn't get regularly" which is hilarious.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: Tasty on January 07, 2013, 07:18:06 PM
I wasn't really being specific, but I don't think you really comprehend what I meant by "PS franchise." In Japan, if it isn't Nintendo, then it's Sony. Those franchises are not really something you'd associate with Nintendo systems.

As for MH specifically, Tri was the start of it being non-PS based and it was fairly recent, and in terms of the MH playerbase, not really worth noting until it came to the PSP as Portable 3rd.

Thinking about it, my only really poor example was RE. That's always been whored around and Nintendo-friendly.

The point of my post is that Nintendo is really going after the teen market. They've always had children, but now they're going after the market that Sony has traditionally had.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: Rahxephon91 on January 07, 2013, 08:01:32 PM
Quote from: AdmiralViscen on January 07, 2013, 06:45:59 PM
Yea, FF sure has been doing great since FF11
It has, but I thought you were asking about sales and since it's an MMO a decent player base can generate a lot of money. XI has had a decent playerbase and made more money then any other FF. I don't know what the quality opinion on DQ is since I don't like the series. The people at 8-4 seem to like it though.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: DCharlieJP on January 07, 2013, 09:14:37 PM
The thing is that MH is going to be a multiplatform game whether fans of either side of the trenches like it or not.

This whole fake concern about splitting the fan base? Lol - Capcom don't give a flying toss. Their remit is to expand everywhere.

Timed exclusivity is almost up - bidding war will start all over again and whoever wins gets MH. Capcom will not give a fuck if that turns out to be MS or Sony, and it might not even matter what the installed username of the winning platform is.

Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: Father_Brain on January 07, 2013, 09:31:38 PM
Quote from: DCharlieJP on January 07, 2013, 09:14:37 PM
The thing is that MH is going to be a multiplatform game whether fans of either side of the trenches like it or not.

This whole fake concern about splitting the fan base? Lol - Capcom don't give a flying toss. Their remit is to expand everywhere.

Timed exclusivity is almost up - bidding war will start all over again and whoever wins gets MH. Capcom will not give a fuck if that turns out to be MS or Sony, and it might not even matter what the installed username of the winning platform is.

Did you time-travel here from a year ago or what?
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: Tasty on January 07, 2013, 09:43:59 PM
Ah, good analysis Oscar. I guess I was surprised because there was a gap in the middle of this gen when I didn't care about sales, so when I came back and saw the PS3 doing very well in Japan I was pretty perplexed, because I knew it wasn't Sony's doing. I guess it shows that it's never too late to turn a system around, or rather, it's never too late to get lucky. :P
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: Tasty on January 07, 2013, 09:48:16 PM
Quote from: DCharlieJP on January 07, 2013, 09:14:37 PM
The thing is that MH is going to be a multiplatform game whether fans of either side of the trenches like it or not.

This whole fake concern about splitting the fan base? Lol - Capcom don't give a flying toss. Their remit is to expand everywhere.

Timed exclusivity is almost up - bidding war will start all over again and whoever wins gets MH. Capcom will not give a fuck if that turns out to be MS or Sony, and it might not even matter what the installed username of the winning platform is.

You think MS is going to bid for MH? Lol.

Sony must have seen by now how bad the lack of MH is hurting them, but so has Nintendo. I wonder which will be hungrier. I'm also wondering if Sony has given up on the Vita at this point in terms of paying cashola for games, or even if MH is enough to save the Vita. With a price drop, it may be enough to pull it up to respectable levels, but I almost think it could do long term damage to the series by not only continuing the sales decline but accelerating it sharply.

A Vita MH wouldn't likely come out until 2014 or 2015 anyways, unless it's something like 4G or Portable 4th. Even then, it'll probably be a while after 4, which is only coming out later this year... By the time Vita gets even a scrap, I wonder if its stomach will even be able to digest it or if it will just vomit it back up.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: Father_Brain on January 07, 2013, 10:34:44 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on January 07, 2013, 09:36:13 PM
I agree with some of what he's saying.  I mean, it's Capcom.  They're going to put the games where the cheddar is.  If they even have a passing thought about splitting the user base, they'll just separate the line again (a la Tri/3rd Portable/Frontier).  This is the company that gave a timed exclusive on their biggest franchise to the Gamecube.  This is the company that put a ton of exclusive games on the Dreamcast.  Monster Hunter  is WiiU/3DS-only today.  Tomorrow, things could entirely change, and it's not even something you can guess at by just looking at install bases, given their history.

Capcom Ports Everything really doesn't apply to their historical handling MH, though.  Until now, they've never supported either of the main series (MH, MHP) concurrently on multiple platforms, and while they've partly broken that pattern with MH3U, it seems to me that that's only because they've killed MHP as a separate series.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: Father_Brain on January 08, 2013, 01:02:03 AM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on January 07, 2013, 11:17:53 PM
Capcom "ports" everything doesn't apply to their handling of Monster Hunter (well, aside from MHP, MHP2, MHG Wii, MH Frontier, MH Tri G U, well, okay, it sometimes applies), but I don't see why we would restrict our prediction of Capcom's behaviour to a single series.  As a company they tend to spread their IPs out over multiple platforms and outside of Nintendo paying an inordinate amount of money, I can't see any reason to think they'll do anything different with MH.

I should stress, I don't see them porting 4 outside of its ecosystem for the time being.  But I certainly could see them reviving the Portable brand.  Even on a dying Vita, they'd get enough sales to make it worth their while, and it would have very little chance of disrupting their "main" MH business, just as Tri Wii didn't disrupt sales on Portable.

If they really wanted to put it on Vita, they could revive the Portable brand, but why?  As a charity donation to Sony?  It's not as though Vita is some enormous untapped market that they're overlooking, or that Capcom as a whole isn't extremely bearish on Vita (they haven't announced anything for the platform since TGS 2011).

Now, if we're talking about the inevitable MH4 HD, a multiplatform release is at least somewhat more plausible, since the split-userbase issue wouldn't be as much of a factor with online, and PS3 is obviously much more viable than Vita if Wii U fails to take off in the Japanese market.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: maxy on January 08, 2013, 03:53:44 AM
3DS broke 10 million barrier in Japan,98 weeks.
 :bow2
10,068,192 sold as of 1/6/13.


That puts last week sales around 305k
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: DCharlieJP on January 08, 2013, 06:43:38 AM
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You think MS is going to bid for MH? Lol.

 :lol
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: Tasty on January 08, 2013, 06:45:06 AM
Seriously, you do? :lol MS stopped caring about Japan a long time ago.
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Post by: DCharlieJP on January 08, 2013, 06:56:35 AM
 :lol :lol :lol

Oh man, next gen is going to be hilarious
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: Tasty on January 08, 2013, 07:12:33 AM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on January 08, 2013, 07:01:16 AM
word.

Andrex, think about it this way: Did Nintendo at one point give up on the Gamecube?  Did that mean they weren't going to try ever aga-

wait, that's a bad example.

:lol

Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on January 08, 2013, 07:01:16 AM
I don't think MS is going to toss the sacks of cash around in the same ways they did last gen, but there's no way they're not even going to try.  Japan's home console market may be smaller than it once was, but it's still pretty large by world standards.

OK, better question: why would MS bother moneyhatting MH when they don't even make a handheld? They'd be paying for table scraps.
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Post by: archnemesis on January 08, 2013, 07:17:11 AM
What other popular Japanese franchise would you suggest they moneyhat?
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Post by: DCharlieJP on January 08, 2013, 07:19:39 AM
What is going to be even funnier is when MH5 is revealed as an iOS exclusive in 2014 and all the "fans" from all side decide they hated it anyways
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: Tasty on January 08, 2013, 07:24:23 AM
Quote from: archnemesis on January 08, 2013, 07:17:11 AM
What other popular Japanese franchise would you suggest they moneyhat?

Something that makes most of its sales on consoles. Like Yakuza or something, lol.

They already got a Tales but I guess they didn't see that as a success or something.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: Tasty on January 08, 2013, 07:29:12 AM
Quote from: DCharlieJP on January 08, 2013, 07:19:39 AM
What is going to be even funnier is when MH5 is revealed as an iOS exclusive in 2014 and all the "fans" from all side decide they hated it anyways

If Apple ponies up and makes something like the Circle Pad Pro I probably wouldn't mind. Only, it'd have to have all the controls, lol.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: archnemesis on January 08, 2013, 07:30:08 AM
I'm not sure the Japanese audience will fall for a timed exclusive Tales game again. They're perceived as being beta versions of the Playstation games.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: DCharlieJP on January 08, 2013, 07:36:50 AM
It's pretty simple - if MS want to take Japan they have to go in all guns blazing and secure all the big title sand force/frog march the gutter dwelling Japanese to the glorious dew filled pastures of Next Gen.

Reality : 4DS in 2025 slightly less powerful than the Vita breaks all sales records - ports of GC games top charts
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: Tasty on January 08, 2013, 07:42:52 AM
Also, if MS got MH, would that be only home console exclusivity? Because even Capcom isn't dumb enough to stop making the handheld games.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on January 08, 2013, 08:06:53 AM
Why do japanese people like handhelds so much? Why not play on mobiles?

When did the country become technologically backwards?

Why did they stop pushing tech?

Why is Korea LG/Samsung > Sony now?
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: Tasty on January 08, 2013, 08:19:22 AM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on January 08, 2013, 08:18:07 AM
That's actually kind of offensive.

This is Lager you're talking to. ::)
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: Don Flamenco on January 08, 2013, 10:04:21 AM
Quote from: Andrex on January 07, 2013, 12:57:54 PM
MS exclusivity window is as convincing a theory as anything I've thought of, guess it could be that. Hmm...

Quote from: archnemesis on January 07, 2013, 12:46:11 PM
Bayonetta did alright, but on Wii U they'll both do worse.

Hmm, I dunno. Bayo 2 I can see doing well, Nintendo's usually a good publisher if anything else.


Bayonetta 2 is going to do worse being on one system.  Its target audience is PS3/360 owners who played the first game, enjoyed it enough to buy the second, and went on to buy a WiiU. 
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Post by: Cerveza mas fina on January 08, 2013, 10:11:47 AM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on January 08, 2013, 08:18:07 AM
That's actually kind of offensive.

In sorry Japan used to be regarded as the future, now the hottest tech is coming from korea.

What is offensive about what ive said? Its just an observation.

I dont that between the stagnant economy of the past 20 years and this kind of stuff im alone in this observation.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: Don Flamenco on January 08, 2013, 10:14:14 AM
they're playing on handhelds instead of mobiles because they have some sense of taste + quality (I'm an expert)
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Post by: headwalk on January 08, 2013, 10:22:33 AM
Quote from: Premium Lager on January 08, 2013, 10:11:47 AM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on January 08, 2013, 08:18:07 AM
That's actually kind of offensive.

In sorry Japan used to be regarded as the future, now the hottest tech is coming from korea.

What is offensive about what ive said? Its just an observation.

I dont that between the stagnant economy of the past 20 years and this kind of stuff im alone in this observation.

korea has pretty much replaced japan wholesale as the official exotic eastern fantasy land for disenfranchised westerners.

japan has a very 90s ring to it by comparison. i guess once korea developed the surgical artistry to create a gattica race of impossibly perfect looking people, it was only a matter of time.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on January 08, 2013, 10:22:59 AM
Well Japan was in deep trouble in the 90's, the last decade wasn't that amazing either no?

I love you too Oscar. I just speak my mind, a very dutch trait sorry.

Please understand

http://stuffdutchpeoplelike.com/2011/05/28/dutch-directness/

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This list would not be complete if we did not discuss the elephant in the room: Dutch directness. Now you’ve heard the rumours, the stereotypes, the hearsay, and the clichés -and I’m here to tell you, that like the majority of gossip, they are, in fact…all absolutely true! Dutch people are direct. Direct to the point of shocking at times. Direct to the point of “what the f@#$ did he just say to me?!?. If you plan to spend any times in the lowlands you had better get used to it, and fast!
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Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on January 08, 2013, 11:10:19 AM
oscar dont mind him he supports ajax he is born stupid
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Post by: Cerveza mas fina on January 08, 2013, 11:32:06 AM
3-1

Quote from: headwalk on January 08, 2013, 10:22:33 AM
Quote from: Premium Lager on January 08, 2013, 10:11:47 AM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on January 08, 2013, 08:18:07 AM
That's actually kind of offensive.

In sorry Japan used to be regarded as the future, now the hottest tech is coming from korea.

What is offensive about what ive said? Its just an observation.

I dont that between the stagnant economy of the past 20 years and this kind of stuff im alone in this observation.

korea has pretty much replaced japan wholesale as the official exotic eastern fantasy land for disenfranchised westerners.

japan has a very 90s ring to it by comparison. i guess once korea developed the surgical artistry to create a gattica race of impossibly perfect looking people, it was only a matter of time.

So you mean this perception is cultural and koreas rise opposite to japan is overrated?
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: Momo on January 08, 2013, 11:37:44 AM
I dont see how it's possible for anyone to hate ajax.

On a personal note, I love mon hun very much but I'm also very much sick of Nintendo so I'm at a crossroads about biting the bullet. I'm leaning towards just letting the series go as I'm not going to put up with the circus of shit that is Nintendo would be a sad thing but eh I dont want to <<buy everything and complain later>> this gen. That being said, with so many shitty consoles out there absorbing money away from games/companies I care about it's not long before it all implodes and I pack it in to become a fat bearded PC only gamer.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: maxy on January 08, 2013, 11:43:26 AM
http://www.mcvuk.com/news/read/digital-up-pre-owned-down-as-gamestop-reports-4-6-sales-drop/0108976

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Global games retailer GameStop has fared better than the overall games market by posting a sales drop of just 4.6 per cent for the nine weeks ending December 29th.

Global sales for the period were $2.88bn. Like-for-like sales fell 4.4 per cent, with the US declining 3.5 per cent and international falling 6.4 per cent.

Hardware sales in the period fell 2.7 per cent despite 320,000 Wii U unit sales. New game software sales dipped 5.1 per cent while pre-owned nosedived by 15.6 per cent – a number GameStop blames on “limited inventory due to fewer new titles released throughout 2012 and less promotional activity negatively impacted sales compared to last year”.

Digital sales were the exception, however, climbing over 40 per cent. Global e-commerce sales were up 20.5 per cent.

GameStop has changed fourth quarter predictions from between -7.0 per cent and -4.0 per cent to between -9.0 per cent and -7.5 per cent.

“GameStop experienced mixed results during the holiday selling period. Our successful Wii U launch, strong digital growth and continued momentum in the mobile space were countered by a decline in store traffic,” CEO Paul Raines stated.

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GameStop's sales report includes the nine weeks leading up to 29th December last year, although Wii U sales will only cover the six weeks since the US launch on 18th November, and then in Europe and Australia since the 30th.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: Momo on January 08, 2013, 11:43:58 AM
Quote from: Premium Lager on January 08, 2013, 11:32:06 AM
So you mean this perception is cultural and koreas rise opposite to japan is overrated?
Japan is on the cutting edge and creates a lot of tech while Korea takes tech from elsewhere and bundles it with a free night with one of the girls generation to facilitate their palms being greased. At least that's my perception of the matter, Korean "advancement" feels more like a clever advertising campaign to me than actual sweat and elbow grease.
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Post by: headwalk on January 08, 2013, 11:52:00 AM
Quote from: Momo on January 08, 2013, 11:43:58 AM
Quote from: Premium Lager on January 08, 2013, 11:32:06 AM
So you mean this perception is cultural and koreas rise opposite to japan is overrated?
Japan is on the cutting edge and creates a lot of tech while Korea takes tech from elsewhere and bundles it with a free night with one of the girls generation to facilitate their palms being greased. At least that's my perception of the matter, Korean "advancement" feels more like a clever advertising campaign to me than actual sweat and elbow grease.

yeah, i'm not saying that korea has the better product, but they have a much slicker marketing campaign leading to a greater pop culture resonance. esports and plastic kpop goddesses instead of arcades and anime schoolgirls.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: Momo on January 08, 2013, 11:54:09 AM
Thats a spot on assessment
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Post by: Cerveza mas fina on January 08, 2013, 12:29:30 PM
This line of thinking might have some merit.

But LG being the first one out with a 3D phone, dual core phone, first OLED tv is not a marketing thing. Neither is Samsungs dominance with the Galaxy line or its HDTVS when they popped up. Whats happened to Panasonic, Sanyo etc? Have they moved into other stuff (like Philips that has moved into medical appliences).
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: Third on January 08, 2013, 04:25:48 PM
Quote from: maxy on January 08, 2013, 11:43:26 AM
http://www.mcvuk.com/news/read/digital-up-pre-owned-down-as-gamestop-reports-4-6-sales-drop/0108976

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Global games retailer GameStop has fared better than the overall games market by posting a sales drop of just 4.6 per cent for the nine weeks ending December 29th.

Global sales for the period were $2.88bn. Like-for-like sales fell 4.4 per cent, with the US declining 3.5 per cent and international falling 6.4 per cent.

Hardware sales in the period fell 2.7 per cent despite 320,000 Wii U unit sales. New game software sales dipped 5.1 per cent while pre-owned nosedived by 15.6 per cent – a number GameStop blames on “limited inventory due to fewer new titles released throughout 2012 and less promotional activity negatively impacted sales compared to last year”.

Digital sales were the exception, however, climbing over 40 per cent. Global e-commerce sales were up 20.5 per cent.

GameStop has changed fourth quarter predictions from between -7.0 per cent and -4.0 per cent to between -9.0 per cent and -7.5 per cent.

“GameStop experienced mixed results during the holiday selling period. Our successful Wii U launch, strong digital growth and continued momentum in the mobile space were countered by a decline in store traffic,” CEO Paul Raines stated.

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GameStop's sales report includes the nine weeks leading up to 29th December last year, although Wii U sales will only cover the six weeks since the US launch on 18th November, and then in Europe and Australia since the 30th.

320.000 units sold???

But people preordered 500.000 units (http://www.destructoid.com/gamestop-wii-u-preorders-1-2m-games-for-500-000-systems-238689.phtml)


180k canceled preorders 
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: maxy on January 08, 2013, 04:39:59 PM
People do that sometimes.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: pilonv1 on January 08, 2013, 05:16:21 PM
Quote from: Third on January 08, 2013, 04:25:48 PM
Quote from: maxy on January 08, 2013, 11:43:26 AM
http://www.mcvuk.com/news/read/digital-up-pre-owned-down-as-gamestop-reports-4-6-sales-drop/0108976

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Global games retailer GameStop has fared better than the overall games market by posting a sales drop of just 4.6 per cent for the nine weeks ending December 29th.

Global sales for the period were $2.88bn. Like-for-like sales fell 4.4 per cent, with the US declining 3.5 per cent and international falling 6.4 per cent.

Hardware sales in the period fell 2.7 per cent despite 320,000 Wii U unit sales. New game software sales dipped 5.1 per cent while pre-owned nosedived by 15.6 per cent – a number GameStop blames on “limited inventory due to fewer new titles released throughout 2012 and less promotional activity negatively impacted sales compared to last year”.

Digital sales were the exception, however, climbing over 40 per cent. Global e-commerce sales were up 20.5 per cent.

GameStop has changed fourth quarter predictions from between -7.0 per cent and -4.0 per cent to between -9.0 per cent and -7.5 per cent.

“GameStop experienced mixed results during the holiday selling period. Our successful Wii U launch, strong digital growth and continued momentum in the mobile space were countered by a decline in store traffic,” CEO Paul Raines stated.

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GameStop's sales report includes the nine weeks leading up to 29th December last year, although Wii U sales will only cover the six weeks since the US launch on 18th November, and then in Europe and Australia since the 30th.

320.000 units sold???

But people preordered 500.000 units (http://www.destructoid.com/gamestop-wii-u-preorders-1-2m-games-for-500-000-systems-238689.phtml)


180k canceled preorders 

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GameStop has 1.2 million preorders for Wii U games, and that's for the 500,000 consoles they were allocated. That's 2.4 games for every console, double the preorder numbers the Wii saw.
Read more at http://www.destructoid.com/gamestop-wii-u-preorders-1-2m-games-for-500-000-systems-238689.phtml#BqEu9zftdqbQ5Txd.99

allocated isn't sold.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: Don Flamenco on January 08, 2013, 05:23:09 PM
they assault you with WiiU stuff at the store near me.  Door is plastered with "WiiU in stock!"  Then there's a table with a bunch of WiiU stuff in front, a bunch of displays, all shoved in a tiny spot.  From my one store, I extrapolate that the entire corporation is desperately trying to sell them.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: treythemovie on January 08, 2013, 07:47:40 PM
Quote from: Don Flamenco on January 08, 2013, 05:23:09 PM
they assault you with WiiU stuff at the store near me.  Door is plastered with "WiiU in stock!"  Then there's a table with a bunch of WiiU stuff in front, a bunch of displays, all shoved in a tiny spot.  From my one store, I extrapolate that the entire corporation is desperately trying to sell them.
The more systems sold of any variety, the better it is for Gamestop. They suffer just as much as the console manufacturer if a system flops since their business is centered wholly around video games with no diversification. They need hardware sales to go up across the board.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: pilonv1 on January 08, 2013, 08:16:30 PM
Quote from: Don Flamenco on January 08, 2013, 05:23:09 PM
they assault you with WiiU stuff at the store near me.  Door is plastered with "WiiU in stock!"  Then there's a table with a bunch of WiiU stuff in front, a bunch of displays, all shoved in a tiny spot.  From my one store, I extrapolate that the entire corporation is desperately trying to sell them.

Most of the displays in gamestop are paid positions.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: Flannel Boy on January 08, 2013, 08:27:28 PM
Quote from: pilonv1 on January 08, 2013, 05:16:21 PM
allocated isn't sold.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GFL6d-cbK60
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: Momo on January 08, 2013, 11:03:47 PM
I appreciate that you would make long detailed posts whereas I am too lazy to.
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Post by: Cerveza mas fina on January 09, 2013, 07:57:46 AM
Thanks for that write up.

I know the Japanese commute stuff is being brought up so much, but how long are these commutes? I mean Japan is not the only country where people commute. Phone batteries aren't THAT bad anymore, I can def play for an hour or two and have battery left. Esp considering that at work youre not using your phone I think.

Are you serious bout the fax machines? :)
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on January 09, 2013, 09:02:14 AM
3G is a bitch yes and it kills my phone too super quick. 2 hours each way... thats like crossing half of the netherlands  :lol
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: maxy on January 09, 2013, 09:07:49 AM
Media Create Sales: Week 1, 2013 (Dec 31 - Jan 06)

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3DS LL   156,184
3DS   123,075
Wii U   67,083
PS3   64,352
PSP   54,873
Vita   33,309
Wii   5,632
Xbox 360   1,893

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01./01. [3DS] Animal Crossing: New Leaf # <ETC> (Nintendo) {2012.11.08} (¥4.800) - 133.134 / 2.103.089 (-17%)
02./03. [3DS] New Super Mario Bros. 2 # <ACT> (Nintendo) {2012.07.28} (¥4.800) - 90.264 / 1.834.055 (+38%)
03./04. [3DS] Paper Mario: Sticker Star <ADV> (Nintendo) {2012.12.06} (¥4.800) - 68.262 / 470.394 (+16%)
04./07. [3DS] Inazuma Eleven Go 2: Chrono Stone - Neppuu / Raimei <RPG> (Level 5) {2012.12.13} (¥5.500) - 51.519 / 365.536 (+1%)
05./06. [WIU] New Super Mario Bros. U <ACT> (Nintendo) {2012.12.08} (¥5.985) - 50.319 / 419.710 (-12%)
06./02. [3DS] Fantasy Life <RPG> (Level 5) {2012.12.27} (¥5.800) - 42.291 / 159.361 (-64%)
07./09. [WIU] Nintendo Land <ETC> (Nintendo) {2012.12.08} (¥4.935) - 41.426 / 250.473 (-6%)
08./05. [PSP] One Piece: Romance Dawn - Bouken no Yoake # <RPG> (Bandai Namco Games) {2012.12.20} (¥5.980) - 40.137 / 264.739 (-30%)
09./12. [3DS] Magician's Quest: Magical Town <ETC> (Konami) {2012.12.20} (¥4.980) - 38.986 / 119.735 (+33%)
10./17. [3DS] Tousouchuu: Shijou Saikyou no Hunter-Tachi Kara Nigekire! <ACT> (Bandai Namco Games) {2012.07.05} (¥5.040) - 35.624 / 373.096 (+72%)
11./11. [3DS] Pokèmon Mystery Dungeon: Gates to Infinity <RPG> (Pokèmon Co.) {2012.11.23} (¥4.800) - 35.190 / 408.889 (+10%)
12./00. [3DS] Taiko no Tatsujin: Chibi Dragon to Fushigi na Orb <ACT> (Bandai Namco Games) {2012.07.12} (¥5.040) - 34.529 / 375.062
13./15. [3DS] Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate (Best Price!) <ACT> (Capcom) {2012.11.15} (¥3.800) - 32.007 / 155.601 (+25%)
14./20. [3DS] Mario Kart 7 <RCE> (Nintendo) {2011.12.01} (¥4.800) - 30.291 / 1.939.257 (+63%)
15./00. [3DS] Professor Layton Vs. Ace Attorney <ADV> (Level 5) {2012.11.29} (¥5.980) - 30.235 / 249.689
16./08. [PS3] Fist of the North Star: Ken's Rage 2 # <ACT> (Koei Tecmo) {2012.12.20} (¥8.190) - 29.180 / 194.157 (-40%)
17./13. [WII] Taiko no Tatsujin Wii: Super Deluxe Edition # <ACT> (Bandai Namco Games) {2012.11.29} (¥5.040) - 28.001 / 349.960 (+6%)
18./10. [PS3] Yakuza 5 # <ADV> (Sega) {2012.12.06} (¥8.800) - 26.631 / 544.855 (-31%)
19./00. [3DS] Style Savvy: Trendsetters <ETC> (Nintendo) {2012.09.27} (¥4.800) - 23.172 / 282.642
20./00. [3DS] Kobito Zukan: Kobito Kansatsu Set <ETC> (Nippon Columbia) {2012.07.26} (¥5.040) - 21.110 / 226.888

WiiU lol
ninthings are not happy with Vita sales
3DS :bow2
PSP :bow2
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: Don Flamenco on January 09, 2013, 09:12:55 AM
Vita's totally trouncing Wii60.  fuk yeh

VITA OUTSELLS XBOX 360 BY APPROXIMATELY 330%
Title: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: Shaka Khan on January 09, 2013, 09:15:10 AM
I'm surprised the OG 3DS is still selling so well. I thought more sales would convert to XL by now, considering how popular the DSiXL was.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on January 09, 2013, 09:27:40 AM
PS3 will overtake WiiU next week.

Ds family is doing good.

Vita  :'(
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: headwalk on January 09, 2013, 09:37:57 AM
i'm trying to think of a home console that had less to offer in its time than the wiiU and my list runs cold after the CDi.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on January 09, 2013, 11:11:34 AM
Jaguar/3DO/Virtual Boy

Even Wii had Zelda, but if you look back at it, it looked the same as the GCN one, thats just laughable  :lol

Here is a next gen launch title, looking same as last gen title.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on January 09, 2013, 12:50:40 PM
I owned a panasonic 3D0 and spent shit loads playing Gex, that one egyptian flight game, and the great port of super street fighter 2 turbo !
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: headwalk on January 09, 2013, 01:09:45 PM
if someone gave me a 3DO in 1993, i'd let them do whatever they wanted to me and hope to repress the memory when i grew up.

if someone gave me a wiiU in 2012, i'd punch them in the mouth.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: Don Flamenco on January 09, 2013, 01:13:54 PM
3DO had Naughty Dog support
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: Joe Molotov on January 09, 2013, 01:19:03 PM
Quote from: Don Flamenco on January 09, 2013, 01:13:54 PM
3DO had Naughty Dog support

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/c/cc/Way_of_the_Warrior_cover.png)

Street Fighter who??
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: Don Flamenco on January 09, 2013, 01:56:06 PM
when i rented a 3DO system from Blockbuster, that was the game I got with it, cause I liked anything that resembled MK at the time.

my curiosity had been sated after that. :lol 
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on January 09, 2013, 02:01:26 PM
3do is that system i really really wanted to try as a kid. It was so next gen.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: bork on January 09, 2013, 02:12:01 PM
I remember that I just wanted to play SSF2 Turbo on 3D0.  Not much interest in anything else- even the Samurai Shodown port that Crystal Dynamics did sucked.  It was missing a lot of animation and for whatever reason used the PCM soundtrack instead of the arranged soundtrack.

I finally got a used 3D0 cheap in 1997 with Super Turbo.  The lack of Parallax didn't really bother me, but the game pads sucked.  Then Capcom announced the SF2 Collection that had Super Turbo and Alpha 2 Gold.  Returned the 3D0 the next day.

I think 3D0 was at it saddest in 1996, when they stopped getting third party games and used the excuse that they just wanted to release original content.  Too bad it all sucked hard.

Quote from: Joe Molotov on January 09, 2013, 01:19:03 PM
Quote from: Don Flamenco on January 09, 2013, 01:13:54 PM
3DO had Naughty Dog support

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/c/cc/Way_of_the_Warrior_cover.png)

Street Fighter who??

 :yuck

All those Mortal Kombat clones sucked so bad.  I guess this was still better than Kasumi Ninja.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: ToxicAdam on January 09, 2013, 02:21:22 PM
I spent a lot of time on Fidonet/Usenet message boards back then. It was pretty sad to see all the people that were vesting all their faith into the M2 being a savior.

Although not as sad as the Jaguar fans that held up Tempest 2000 as the game that was going to turn sales back around.

Title: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: Shaka Khan on January 09, 2013, 02:34:23 PM
Quote from: Exodust SoulBurn on January 09, 2013, 12:43:58 PM
The 3DO was strangely popular in Saudi. I know people to this day who claim its a better system than the PSX  :lol

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I own a Panasonic 3DO and spent an obscene amount of time playing Gex when I was younger  :-[
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I can attest to this. It was almost as prevalent as the genesis and snes at one point. I wonder how much it cost at the time compared to the other systems, what's with the bullshit markups we had to deal with.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: Don Flamenco on January 09, 2013, 02:37:45 PM
Quote from: ToxicAdam on January 09, 2013, 02:21:22 PM
I spent a lot of time on Fidonet/Usenet message boards back then. It was pretty sad to see all the people that were vesting all their faith into the M2 being a savior.

Although not as sad as the Jaguar fans that held up Tempest 2000 as the game that was going to turn sales back around.

wow, the more things change.  it's hard to view any of those systems as defensible in any form. 

the only thing they had going for them was mystique because nobody owned one, so you never saw it in real life, and you only saw overhyped previews in game magazines that were almost like some guys bragging they got to play it.  :lol
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: Mr. Gundam on January 09, 2013, 02:46:39 PM
There was a kid in my grade who had a Jaguar and a NEO-GEO. My buddy and I got to play them a couple times, we felt so incredibly lucky. Same kid was also the only person I knew who had the Sega Channel.

Also, 80s/90s Usenet console warriors were even better than their current day brethren since we had less information available to us.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: cool breeze on January 09, 2013, 03:04:04 PM
I always wanted a neo geo.  If I were my age in the 90s, I would've made so many unwise purchases.  Conversely, if I were young in 2012, I wouldn't have a wii u, and a 3DS or Vita instead of both, if my parents were feeling generous.

and for old usenet console war shenanigans, check out this old gaf thread that collected choice quotes: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=482425
Title: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: Shaka Khan on January 09, 2013, 03:16:24 PM
Quote from: Exodust SoulBurn on January 09, 2013, 03:02:58 PM
If I remember correctly it was the most expensive out of all of them by a longshot, and Saudi opinion dictates that it's better cause of it. I remember that my cousins were still trying to convince me that the 3DO has better graphics than the first XBox when I bought it cause it had full motion games like Mad Dog.  :lol Which they attributed to the graphics engine :rofl

Also Saudi was Sega land until the Playstation dropped. The only time it was ever Nintendo was with the NES, and judging by the people I know who do game it's still more of a Sony place with some Xfags here and there.

When I bought the PSX early during that generation, I started showing it off like any kid would do not to mention throwing around terms I didn't fully comprehend at the time, like "3 dimensional graphics."

One of my cousins pushed back one day with "Tekken has 3 dimensional graphics?! Mortal Kombat for the 3DO has 8 dimensional graphics!!" I tried to remain calm and unfazed but in my head I was going "HOLY SHIT I'M SCREWED!"

Kids. Smh.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: Mr. Gundam on January 09, 2013, 03:18:30 PM
I remember seeing a NEO-GEO and 3 games at a Goodwill back in the early 90s. It was still crazy expensive, but I tried so hard to convince my parents that it was worth it. :lol
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Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on January 09, 2013, 03:25:02 PM
I have a copy of the box art for Night Trap for the 3D0 in my basement. I've never owned the game or anything, no idea how it ended in my house.  ???
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on January 09, 2013, 03:26:08 PM
I wish i was at my folks home now I would hook you guys up with some scans from my huge collection of 90's mags. Project reality rumours, fake cgi shots of m2, cd32 hitting the stores, ads for the atari lynx

Love flipping through those old mags every few years. Got at least 200 between 92/00 I think.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on January 09, 2013, 03:27:42 PM
Quote from: MyNameIsMethodis on January 09, 2013, 03:25:02 PM
I have a copy of the box art for Night Trap for the 3D0 in my basement. I've never owned the game or anything, no idea how it ended in my house.  ???

Night Trap came out for the 3do too? Sega cd betrayalton.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on January 09, 2013, 03:28:51 PM
Did anyone own a CD32?
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on January 09, 2013, 03:29:56 PM
best version was on 3D0. You guys remember that tanks game that was in that pauly shore movie? always wanted to play dat
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: Don Flamenco on January 09, 2013, 04:12:43 PM
anyone ever get to try a Virtuality machine? 

(http://www.amigahistory.co.uk/1000cs.jpg)


i think there was one game where you shot pterodactyls...

i remember game magazines talking them up like they might be the future.  Each machine cost $60,000 and had 3 games with the most rudimentary 3D graphics possible. 

http://www.amigahistory.co.uk/virtuality.html


People used to be a lot more fixated on making games realistic and as literally immersive as possible.  It was always about "when will graphics be indistinguishable from real life."  I suppose we're still sort of headed in that direction, but it's not like the absolute pinnacle of graphic design...it's just realism.  Just like realistic paintings are often just kinda whatever.

But as a kid, I'd hear about stuff like this or the Jaguar being 64 MOTHERFUCKING BITS WOOWWWWWW and my mind would race over what it looked like :lol 
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: Mr. Gundam on January 09, 2013, 04:14:22 PM
Quote from: Don Flamenco on January 09, 2013, 04:12:43 PM
anyone ever get to try a Virtuality machine? 

(http://www.amigahistory.co.uk/1000cs.jpg)


i think there was one game where you shot pterodactyls...

i remember game magazines talking them up like they might be the future.  Each machine cost $60,000 and had 3 games with the most rudimentary 3D graphics possible. 

http://www.amigahistory.co.uk/virtuality.html


People used to be a lot more fixated on making games realistic and as literally immersive as possible.  It was always about "when will graphics be indistinguishable from real life."  I suppose we're still sort of headed in that direction, but it's not like the absolute pinnacle of graphic design...it's just realism.  Just like realistic paintings are often just kinda whatever.

I got to play one of those at some upscale arcade in San Francisco in 1994 or 1995. It was really odd and my neck hurt when I was done.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on January 09, 2013, 04:21:05 PM
Always wanted to try one. My shitty podunk arcade back in the day had one of those Time Trotter hologram machines and I thought THTAT would be the future.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: Don Flamenco on January 09, 2013, 04:22:17 PM
Quote from: MyNameIsMethodis on January 09, 2013, 04:21:05 PM
Always wanted to try one. My shitty podunk arcade back in the day had one of those Time Trotter hologram machines and I thought THTAT would be the future.


Time Traveller fucking sucked.  I'd pop a quarter in every once in a while, hoping I'd finally get somewhere in the game.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on January 09, 2013, 04:24:23 PM
I don't remember how it played just that it was kickin rad
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: Mr. Gundam on January 09, 2013, 04:37:54 PM
Time Traveler was a novelty. What was the name of the fighting game Sega made for the same arcade system?
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: Don Flamenco on January 09, 2013, 04:39:22 PM
Quote from: MyNameIsMethodis on January 09, 2013, 04:24:23 PM
I don't remember how it played just that it was kickin rad

yeah, it looked neat.   i think it was a quarter trap though.  that or the stick was broken on the machine near me.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: Mr. Gundam on January 09, 2013, 04:42:26 PM
It played a lot like Dragon's Lair and Space Ace, but with holograms instead of animation on a laser disc.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on January 09, 2013, 04:43:09 PM
Quote from: Flannel Boy on January 08, 2013, 08:27:28 PM
Quote from: pilonv1 on January 08, 2013, 05:16:21 PM
allocated isn't sold.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GFL6d-cbK60

Holy shit i just pissed myself in bed.
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Post by: Cerveza mas fina on January 09, 2013, 04:44:24 PM
Quote from: Don Flamenco on January 09, 2013, 04:12:43 PM
anyone ever get to try a Virtuality machine? 

(http://www.amigahistory.co.uk/1000cs.jpg)


i think there was one game where you shot pterodactyls...

i remember game magazines talking them up like they might be the future.  Each machine cost $60,000 and had 3 games with the most rudimentary 3D graphics possible. 

http://www.amigahistory.co.uk/virtuality.html


People used to be a lot more fixated on making games realistic and as literally immersive as possible.  It was always about "when will graphics be indistinguishable from real life."  I suppose we're still sort of headed in that direction, but it's not like the absolute pinnacle of graphic design...it's just realism.  Just like realistic paintings are often just kinda whatever.

But as a kid, I'd hear about stuff like this or the Jaguar being 64 MOTHERFUCKING BITS WOOWWWWWW and my mind would race over what it looked like :lol

Yeah I played one at a games show. It was really cool.

I remember mega drive was supposed to get a headset.
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Post by: Flannel Boy on January 09, 2013, 04:56:10 PM
Quote from: Premium Lager on January 09, 2013, 04:43:09 PM
Quote from: Flannel Boy on January 08, 2013, 08:27:28 PM
Quote from: pilonv1 on January 08, 2013, 05:16:21 PM
allocated isn't sold.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GFL6d-cbK60

Holy shit i just pissed myself in bed.
all the other ones were deleted or lost on an old laptop.
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Post by: chronovore on January 10, 2013, 06:40:02 AM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on January 07, 2013, 09:27:37 PM
Anyway, two things I wanted to post about but wasn't at a keyboard and didn't feel like pecking out on my phone:

a) People wondering with what games the WiiU could sell decent numbers in Japan, firing off things like Tales, Yakuza, and Gran Turismo.  Those games are certainly popular, with sales of over 600k for Tales of Xilia (much lower for other Tales), 550k being a reliable notch for Yakuza games, and Gran Turismo even in its sunset selling over 600k.  It would be nice for Nintendo if they could attract those fanbases, but I think we all realize at least 2/3 of those aren't happening.  The thing is, though, Nintendo, in Japan, doesn't need anyone but themselves. 

If we look at a dark time for Nintendo, the Gamecube era, they were able to sell 4 million of them with a top ten (top 15 even) consisting entirely of their own titles.  While its top title (Smash) didn't sell as well as PS3's top title (FF13), the rest of the numbers don't look very different from the PS3 software sales-wise.  Their software is a powerful hardware seller, there's no question of it.  Think of it like this: if Activision-Blizzard announced they were making a console, and all of their games would be exclusive to that console, and no other third parties got on board, do you think they could sell at least 4 million of those consoles?  I think it would be trivially easy.

Anywhere up to 6 million is not that hard in Japan for Nintendo.  4 million is practically a baseline, no matter what Sony does.  Going past 6 million requires popularity outside their traditional circles and/or legs, neither of which I think the WiiU has, but it's not going to be below 4 million, short of Nintendo pulling a SEGA, which probably isn't in the cards this generation.

b) I want to address this question from Andy:

Quote from: Andrex on January 07, 2013, 12:42:41 PM
Well that's part of my confusion, as to why the games started coming and why they started selling.

The Playstation 3 could probably go down in history as the luckiest console ever.  It has survived and in some extents thrived through none of its own efforts.  Here's what went down:

- PS1/PS2 were smashing successes, so it was a no-brainer for third parties to plan projects for the PS3.  Nobody in the world doubted the PS3 before those $599 words were spoken, and even then, most thought it would be a hindrance as opposed to a dealbreaker.  So, at least as far as pre-launch support goes, the PS3 already had a ton of stuff coming.

- Xbox 360 launched a year earlier.  At the time, Microsoft made it a priority to get as many third party games on Xbox as possible, particularly games that were the backbone of the PS2.  A lot of money was thrown around on timed exclusives and breaking previous Sony exclusives.

- Nintendo's finger is in its bum at this point.

- As the PS3 was not out anyway, these timed exclusives were a no-brainer for many third parties.  The incentives were high enough to almost pay for the entire game in some cases.  It gave them practice working with next generation technology and allowed them to develop engines that they could probably use for the PS3.

- The Xbox 360 does a belly flop in Japan, but is unexpectedly strong overseas for software.  This made it still worth developing for, particularly when development could be shared with the PS3 or subsidized by exclusives with MS, but the PS3 is coming and it's obviously going to rock things, so let's get to work on our PS3 projects and porting over those timed exclusives.

- Nintendo's finger is in its bum at this point.

- The PS3 releases, belly flops.  The Wii releases, rises to heaven.  This is awful.  Everything in the development pipeline is for the PS3/360.  Engines were developed for that level of tech.  A few PS2 games are repurposed and tinkered to try to get some Wii cake.  No choice but to go forward on the expensive projects already planned for PS3, and with the 360 selling so much software overseas, that should offset things.

- Nintendo pulls its finger out of its bum, sniffs it a bit, offers it around, there are a few takers who end up passing out.  Back in the bum it goes.

- The initially planned PS3 releases come out and sales are for the most part underwhelming.  SEGA sees strong success with Yakuza, Konami sees a good result on MGS4, everything else is doing worse than expected, albeit better than the quick efforts they had to throw together for the unexpected Wii success.  Fortunately, 360 sales overseas are stronger than expected.  Unfortunately, the 360 shows no life in Japan.

- It's clear that the 360 market is where the money is.  Nintendo's console as usual has a somewhat unique base of owners that can be hard to read for most third parties.  Overseas sales are booming on 360 software, so that's where development shifts to.  PS3 ports are trivially cheap/easy and while they don't sell terribly well overseas, the domestic sales are decent enough.

- As Japan doesn't care about the 360, all of those multiplat titles shared between PS3/360 might as well be considered PS3 exclusives for Japanese gamers.  Many of these games are awesome, so PS3 owners buy them.  360 versions basically end up subsidizing the PS3 library in Japan.

- Nintendo puts a second finger up its bum.

Post of the generation. The Nintendo imagery is especially evocative.

Quote from: Premium Lager on January 08, 2013, 08:06:53 AM
Why do japanese people like handhelds so much? Why not play on mobiles?

When did the country become technologically backwards?

Why did they stop pushing tech?

Why is Korea LG/Samsung > Sony now?
Oscar already did a nice write-up, but it's worth summarizing as, "without Japan (Sony, Toshiba, Sharp), Korea (LG/Samsung) would not be where it is." Then again, this was also true of Japan in the '70s, so we'll wait to see if the strategy of "copy other people's stuff and sell it cheaper" leads to the same "now innovate!" inspiration that informed Japan in the '80s and early '90s.
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Post by: Cerveza mas fina on January 10, 2013, 07:49:25 AM
Great post from Oscar.

Im wondering about the money MS threw around, is this really true? I mean everyone says MS moneyhatted shit, but did they really? (outside of the GTA DLC biz, im talking early days here.)
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Post by: maxy on January 10, 2013, 08:16:47 AM
Quote from: Premium Lager on January 10, 2013, 07:49:25 AM
Great post from Oscar.

Im wondering about the money MS threw around, is this really true? I mean everyone says MS moneyhatted shit, but did they really? (outside of the GTA DLC biz, im talking early days here.)

For Japan that is obvious,moneyhatting central.

The biggest problem is that Japan moneyhatting didn't pay off(it helped the competition in the end) contrary to the West---although you could that say it helped the competition in the West too,but that was through 360 userbase subsidizing.
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Post by: maxy on January 10, 2013, 08:42:40 AM
Yeah,I was thinking just about Japan.I hope someone smart in X720 division realizes that ignoring Japan would be a very bad move.
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Post by: Joe Molotov on January 10, 2013, 09:24:49 AM
Quote from: Mr. Gundam on January 09, 2013, 04:37:54 PM
Time Traveler was a novelty. What was the name of the fighting game Sega made for the same arcade system?

Holosseum

When I was a kid and I saw that in the arcade back in the day, I was like  :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o
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Post by: maxy on January 10, 2013, 09:39:34 AM
I posted that ages ago,fool.No need for EG article to tell me what was happening in Japan,that was crystal clear to me from for quite a while.
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Post by: maxy on January 10, 2013, 09:42:58 AM
They can fail all they want as long they bring some Japanese games over here.
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Post by: tiesto on January 10, 2013, 10:26:59 AM
Quote from: Joe Molotov on January 09, 2013, 01:19:03 PM
Quote from: Don Flamenco on January 09, 2013, 01:13:54 PM
3DO had Naughty Dog support

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/c/cc/Way_of_the_Warrior_cover.png)

Street Fighter who??

I've always had a morbid curiosity about this game... I mean come on, a game with a drunk Aussie guy named "Shaky Jake"!!

Anybody remember the Pioneer LaserActive? Game console that played Laserdiscs and had modules for you to play Genesis and Hu-Card games on it. I remember playing a rail shooter called Pyramid Patrol (or something like that), with mid 90's CG FMV, at the local Nobody Beats The Wiz. Thought it looked awesome but the console was $1600!
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Post by: Cerveza mas fina on January 10, 2013, 10:30:19 AM
Quote from: maxy on January 10, 2013, 09:42:58 AM
They can fail all they want as long they bring some Japanese games over here.

If Oscars words are to go by they will develop for the 360 simply because they like the western sales.
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Post by: Shaka Khan on January 10, 2013, 10:44:53 AM
This overwhelming respect people are showing for Oscar is making me uncomfortable.

Hey Oscar, FUCK YOU!
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Post by: maxy on January 10, 2013, 10:47:26 AM
Quote from: Premium Lager on January 10, 2013, 10:30:19 AM
Quote from: maxy on January 10, 2013, 09:42:58 AM
They can fail all they want as long they bring some Japanese games over here.

If Oscars words are to go by they will develop for the 360 simply because they like the western sales.

You mean 720,that is if it's successful in the West.Big popular games will come,I was talking more about smaller,new IP stuff.Like something that is not guaranteed to sell well,something that will stay forever locked to Japan without outside push/or never be made. 


Jealousy is bad,Shaka.
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Post by: Cerveza mas fina on January 10, 2013, 11:01:16 AM
I dunno B I don't care. Ill buy PS4 or 720. Whatever is out first and looks good.
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Post by: Cerveza mas fina on January 10, 2013, 11:15:19 AM
Will it? If the difference is 1/3 months I can wait if the other is super cool.

I really like the fact sony has free multiplayer (although PSN is dogshit). I dont feel like paying 10/15 a month for P2P multi. I'd rather pay 15 a month for PSN+ (no clue how much it is actually). Maybe this will be the deciding factor. What they offer in terms of an online package.

Don't think Sony wants another year gap again. In fact I don't think they would bounce back again like that if they did.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: archnemesis on January 10, 2013, 11:19:29 AM
PS+ is $50/year and it you can occasionally buy it at a discount. If you have enough time to play the freebies than it's totally worth it.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: archnemesis on January 10, 2013, 11:21:48 AM
Wow, that's like the worst list ever. Both systems will have achievements, an install base of 0 at day one, and unless they change strategies Sony will have more exclusives.
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Post by: archnemesis on January 10, 2013, 11:39:33 AM
Your comments could be applied to the current gen, but claiming that a console that doesn't exist has a huge online community is obviously wrong regardless if you're trying to be objective or not.
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Post by: Don Flamenco on January 10, 2013, 11:41:33 AM
not necessarily...i'm sure a lot of people feel pre-invested in one or the other, b/c of digital content and chieves/trophies
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Post by: maxy on January 10, 2013, 11:43:38 AM
Just a reminder,NPD is today.About 6 hours left
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Post by: archnemesis on January 10, 2013, 11:44:46 AM
That could be the case, but we still don't know what will carry over to the new systems. Unless there is support for cross-platform play then the online community will be small in the beginning as always.
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Post by: Don Flamenco on January 10, 2013, 11:49:16 AM
everything better carry over or i'll be pissed...though people seem to strongly think PS4 will not be BC at all
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Post by: Steve Youngblood on January 10, 2013, 11:56:04 AM
Quote from: maxy on January 10, 2013, 11:43:38 AM
Just a reminder,NPD is today.About 6 hours left

I'm honestly hoping for fireworks one way or the other, but my prediction is that it'll be some middling figure like 500 to 600K for the Wii U where Nintendo fans declare another great December that is devoid of context (third most successful December after PS2 and Wii! Good job Reggie!) and Nintendo critics argue that the situation is much worse than the numbers paint. Any meaningful conclusions will be delayed until January's numbers come in.
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Post by: Cerveza mas fina on January 10, 2013, 11:57:05 AM
Damn B why is PSN+ a con to you? I think its interesting. If the selection of games is good and there are some other perks.

Playing some games on pc, 360, ps3 and ios made me realize how worthless cheevs are. Shit will never be integrated anyway unless someone makes some system independent system you can track.

Npd will be fun tonight. I can feel the excitement is back over this sales stuff.
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Post by: Tasty on January 10, 2013, 12:04:12 PM
Quote from: Borys on January 10, 2013, 10:51:04 AM
It would be sad if MS locked down the exclusive rights to:

- FF15
- MonHun5

I would be very, very mad then :maf

I wouldn't be mad if MS got MH I would just be very confused. "I know, let's take a franchise that's popular on handhelds... and make it console exclusive." Brilliant!
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Post by: maxy on January 10, 2013, 01:00:15 PM
Quote from: Steve Youngblood on January 10, 2013, 11:56:04 AM
Quote from: maxy on January 10, 2013, 11:43:38 AM
Just a reminder,NPD is today.About 6 hours left

I'm honestly hoping for fireworks one way or the other, but my prediction is that it'll be some middling figure like 500 to 600K for the Wii U where Nintendo fans declare another great December that is devoid of context (third most successful December after PS2 and Wii! Good job Reggie!) and Nintendo critics argue that the situation is much worse than the numbers paint. Any meaningful conclusions will be delayed until January's numbers come in.

This will be the last this gen December,kinda like a closure to this gen...what's done is done,time to move on and hope for the best

As for WiiU--first full month,no shortages,5 week NPD month...i think we will get a good sense where this thing is heading currently
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Post by: maxy on January 10, 2013, 02:20:58 PM
http://online.wsj.com/article/BT-CO-20130110-703712.html?mod=WSJ_qtnews_wsjcomp

Quote
TOKYO--Sony Corp. (6758.TO) is looking to sell one of its main buildings in Tokyo barely two years after it was completed, as the Japanese electronics giant steps up its shedding of nonessential assets to raise cash, a person with knowledge of the proposed sale said Thursday.

The company is considering selling Sony City Osaki building for about 100 billion yen ($1.1 billion) to 130 billion yen ($1.5 billion), the person said. Employees are expected to stay at the location since the potential buyer is likely to lease the building to Sony.

Completed in 2011 and located in one of Tokyo's main office areas, the 124,000 square-meter, 25-story building houses around 5,000 employees in television, audio, and other divisions.
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Post by: Don Flamenco on January 10, 2013, 02:26:03 PM
i guess that settles it, i'm getting a 720.  If Sony is so uncommitted to their buildings, how can I trust them to not abandon a console?
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Post by: maxy on January 10, 2013, 02:29:35 PM
Times are though,money is tight.

Could be something tax related
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Post by: Joe Molotov on January 10, 2013, 02:33:14 PM
Let's buy it and set up The Bore corporate offices.
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Post by: Great Rumbler on January 10, 2013, 03:02:13 PM
How many Sony City Osaki buildings were sold in Q1 of 2013? Somebody get NPD on this so I know how to react!
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Post by: Tasty on January 10, 2013, 03:23:33 PM
It's probably the building where they planned the Vita.
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Post by: maxy on January 10, 2013, 03:26:44 PM
Halo 4 next

http://www.oxm.co.uk/49083/343-boss-next-gen-halo-5-will-be-genuinely-amazing-halo-4-is-best-game-in-the-series/
There is some controversy about this article,Frankie said this

Quote
Wut. I never said or meant that, as anyone who knows me would understand. I am simply talking about sales. Which continues to be true. "Best and fastest selling." Totals and pace it reached those totals.
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Post by: maxy on January 10, 2013, 05:52:25 PM
it begins

https://twitter.com/aarongreenberg/status/289503598264582146
Quote
NPD reports Xbox 360 sold over 1.4M units in December, more than 2x all other consoles. Thanks to all for continued support!

Quote
Xbox 360 ended 2012 as the best-selling console in the U.S., selling 1.4 million units in December. Xbox 360 was the must-have gift this holiday season with more than $1.27 billion spent on Xbox 360 retail including games, consoles and accessories in December. (Source: NPD Group, December 2012)

December 2012 NPD highlights:
· Xbox 360 sold 1.4 million units in December – more than double the amount of the second place console in the U.S. in the month of December. This marks the 24th consecutive month Xbox 360 has held the number one spot in the U.S. (Source: NPD Group, December 2012)

· During the month of December, Xbox 360 held seven of the top 10 console game titles including: “Halo 4,” “Assassin’s Creed III,” “Just Dance 4,” “NBA 2K13,” “Far Cry 3,” “Call of Duty: Black Ops 2” and “Madden NFL 13.” (Source: NPD Group, December 2012)



This holiday, Xbox delivered incredible value offerings paired with a strong lineup of entertainment experiences, along with exclusive blockbuster games like “Halo 4,” “Forza Horizon,” “Dance Central 3” and “Fable: The Journey,” as well as new family friendly titles such as “Kinect Nat Geo TV,” “Kinect Sesame Street TV,” and “Nike+ Kinect Training,” and third party titles like “Call of Duty: Black Ops 2” and “Assassin’s Creed III.”


Even though the holidays are over, consumers can still get the best all-in-one entertainment experience starting at $99 with a two-year Xbox LIVE Gold commitment at $14.99/month. The Xbox 360 Entertainment For All Plan offers access to the best entertainment experiences including TV, movies, music, and sports, plus the hottest blockbuster games – all in one package. *


We expect 2013 will be another big year for Xbox 360 and we’re eager to continue to expand and grow the offerings available on the platform.
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Post by: Cerveza mas fina on January 10, 2013, 05:56:33 PM
Muahahahhahaha
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Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on January 10, 2013, 06:04:59 PM
um NEWSFLASH but the PS3 has outshipped the 360 WW so who cares
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Post by: Cerveza mas fina on January 10, 2013, 06:22:01 PM
Npd is just xbot damage control methodis, dont worry patripplez fo life
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on January 10, 2013, 06:29:09 PM
you ever noticed how NPD is very close to MSC as in MICROSOFT CALLED AND PAID US TO PAD THESE STATS

EVER THOUGHT ABOUT THAT?
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: maxy on January 10, 2013, 06:33:27 PM
(http://www.abload.de/img/135785925509jjzru.jpg)

btw
individual game platform order=platform sales order
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: Tasty on January 10, 2013, 06:36:03 PM
Huh, pretty good numbers for NSMB2. Wouldn't have thought it.
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Post by: Steve Contra on January 10, 2013, 06:36:50 PM
Quote from: Andrex on January 10, 2013, 06:36:03 PM
Huh, pretty good numbers for NSMB2. Wouldn't have thought it.
:wtf
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Post by: maxy on January 10, 2013, 06:40:21 PM
22% down YOY,how nice
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Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on January 10, 2013, 06:44:37 PM
not a single WiiU game in the top 10  :lol :lol
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Post by: Steve Contra on January 10, 2013, 06:55:06 PM
https://twitter.com/gamasutra/status/289518495325114368 (https://twitter.com/gamasutra/status/289518495325114368)

Bomba.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: maxy on January 10, 2013, 06:56:30 PM
less than 604k
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Post by: Steve Contra on January 10, 2013, 06:59:25 PM
The crazy thing about that is the Wii was fucking sold out everywhere its first December so they could have done more.  the WiiU?  Lol.
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Post by: maxy on January 10, 2013, 07:02:10 PM
Quote
Wii U Hardware Sales Surpass Wii Sales by More Than $30 Million through First Six Weeks

With more than 460,000 units sold in December, Wii U has now sold nearly 890,000 units in the United States after only 41 days on the market, according to the NPD Group. To date, Wii U hardware sales have generated more than $300 million in the U.S. alone; Wii hardware had generated just more than $270 million at the same point in its lifecycle.
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Post by: Steve Contra on January 10, 2013, 07:04:55 PM
 :lol
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Post by: archie4208 on January 10, 2013, 07:06:42 PM
So on a scale from 1 to ultra fucked, how fucked is Nintendo?
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Post by: Huff on January 10, 2013, 07:07:40 PM
ANDREX POST IF YOU'RE OKAY
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Post by: maxy on January 10, 2013, 07:07:59 PM
Full PR

Quote
Nintendo News

Wii U Hardware Sales Surpass Wii Sales by More Than $30 Million through First Six Weeks

With more than 460,000 units sold in December, Wii U has now sold nearly 890,000 units in the United States after only 41 days on the market, according to the NPD Group. To date, Wii U hardware sales have generated more than $300 million in the U.S. alone; Wii hardware had generated just more than $270 million at the same point in its lifecycle.

“While the Wii launch established new benchmarks in the United States, Wii U has surpassed its predecessor in perhaps the most important category: revenue generation,” said Scott Moffitt, Nintendo of America’s executive vice president of Sales & Marketing. “The demand for the Deluxe SKU, which was essentially sold out at retail this holiday, and the strong attach rate of New Super Mario Bros. U, shows that we have the value and the games to drive momentum in 2013. We look forward to offering great new experiences and bringing smiles to millions of new faces throughout the year.”

Nintendo sold more than 2.65 million hardware units in the United States in the month of December. 2012 marked the 11th consecutive year that Nintendo has sold at least 8 million hardware units in the U.S. Other Nintendo sales milestones achieved in December 2012 and beyond that time frame, include:
New Super Mario Bros. U has now sold more than 580,000 units, an attach rate of more than 65 percent.
Nintendo 3DS sold more than 1.25 million units in December and has crossed 7.7 million units sold life to date.
New Super Mario Bros. 2 became the fourth Nintendo 3DS title to surpass 1 million units sold in the U.S., and has now sold more than 1.45 million units life to date.
Nintendo 3DS continues to outpace the historic sales rate of Nintendo DS.

Wii sold nearly 475,000 units and crossed 40.8 million units sold life to date.
Ubisoft’s Just Dance 3 became the 10th Wii title to sell more than 5 million units life to date.
Nintendo DS sold nearly 470,000 units and crossed 53 million units sold life to date.

I need a drink
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Post by: Flannel Boy on January 10, 2013, 07:08:23 PM
The Wii U was outsold by the Wii?  :lol :lol :lol
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Post by: Smooth Groove on January 10, 2013, 07:09:32 PM
Nintendo should just rename it Virtual Boy 2
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Post by: pilonv1 on January 10, 2013, 07:09:42 PM
Quote from: MyNameIsMethodis on January 10, 2013, 06:44:37 PM
not a single WiiU game in the top 10  :lol :lol

Would be pretty hard with the userbase.
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Post by: Shaka Khan on January 10, 2013, 07:09:46 PM
PR: Pricier hardware generates more revenue!

Edit: too slow
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Post by: AdmiralViscen on January 10, 2013, 07:10:55 PM
Sub 500k? That is way worse than I thought. Wow

How many did Wii U sell in November? 890k - x  =
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Post by: demi on January 10, 2013, 07:12:22 PM
it has to get better
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Post by: Flannel Boy on January 10, 2013, 07:13:38 PM
oh, warawara will this shitty system sell?
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Post by: AdmiralViscen on January 10, 2013, 07:14:25 PM
Looks like 425k for Nov, 465k or so for Dec. Those are some legs
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Post by: Steve Youngblood on January 10, 2013, 07:15:34 PM
Wow. I was king of expecting in the "slightly below mediocre" level, but 460K is just plain bad.
Title: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: Shaka Khan on January 10, 2013, 07:17:14 PM
Quote from: demi on January 10, 2013, 07:12:22 PM
it has to get better

:lol
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: Purple Filth on January 10, 2013, 07:18:11 PM
Sold less than a $600 console that was supposedly "supply constrainted"? ouch  :-\



Now all eyes are on the next-gen twins to see if this low sales will continue.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: maxy on January 10, 2013, 07:23:42 PM
WiiU software must be really bad.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: cool breeze on January 10, 2013, 07:35:04 PM
Quote from: maxy on January 10, 2013, 07:23:42 PM
WiiU software must be really bad.

wait for secret wii u game

sorry, can't think of a game to finish this joke.  alright, let's see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Wii_U_games

wait for Untitled Super Smash Bros. sequel[55]    Sora Ltd.
Namco Bandai    Nintendo    To be announced    To be announced    To be announced    To be announced[56]    Yes[a]    Yes
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: Eel O'Brian on January 10, 2013, 07:41:08 PM
Okay, Great Carsoni, how long until this thing bottoms out below $200?

(http://www.osusilverbullet.com/uploads/3/4/3/3/343323/3874843.jpg?428)
Title: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: Shaka Khan on January 10, 2013, 07:43:33 PM
About the YOY decline: is the market normalizing or headed for the shitter?
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: Purple Filth on January 10, 2013, 07:44:48 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on January 10, 2013, 07:36:20 PM
Pretty stoked here.  With this failure, my prediction success is back above 2/3 correct on hardware.  Been nothing but wins lately.

what killed your 100% 3ds?

Quote
Vita > 1/10 3DS
cod bundle ~ 70%

confirm plz oscar
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: maxy on January 10, 2013, 07:51:28 PM
mr cream is reliable

Vita>125k

lol
Title: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: Huff on January 10, 2013, 07:55:29 PM
Wow vita is just super dead
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on January 10, 2013, 07:59:16 PM
the 3ds is such a shit ocnsole. doesn't deserve it's sales.

my question is, if the Wiiu only sold 460k, then how could Mario sell 506k? that doenst add up  ???
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: maxy on January 10, 2013, 08:01:38 PM
oh Methodis,you ask such silly questions
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: AdmiralViscen on January 10, 2013, 08:03:19 PM
Quote from: MyNameIsMethodis on January 10, 2013, 07:59:16 PM
the 3ds is such a shit ocnsole. doesn't deserve it's sales.

my question is, if the Wiiu only sold 460k, then how could Mario sell 506k? that doenst add up  ???

You aren't supposed to add up those numbers
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: Purple Filth on January 10, 2013, 08:07:05 PM
Quote
PSP < 50K < ... < 200K < PSV < 250K < ... < 600k < PS3 < 650K

slight correction but Vita still zombified
Title: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: Shaka Khan on January 10, 2013, 08:08:32 PM
Quote from: maxy on January 10, 2013, 07:51:28 PM
mr cream is reliable

Vita>125k

lol

Shortages?
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: Flannel Boy on January 10, 2013, 08:11:50 PM
Quote from: Shaka Khan on January 10, 2013, 08:08:32 PM
Quote from: maxy on January 10, 2013, 07:51:28 PM
mr cream is reliable

Vita>125k

lol

Shortages?

Yup. A shortage of consumers willing to buy the thing.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: Purple Filth on January 10, 2013, 08:13:59 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on January 10, 2013, 08:10:50 PM
Quote from: Purple Filth on January 10, 2013, 07:44:48 PM
what killed your 100% 3ds?

Quote
Vita > 1/10 3DS
cod bundle ~ 70%

confirm plz oscar

creamsugar is perfectly reliable. 

since i started bothering paying attention to sales and trends, i've been wrong on five pieces of hardware.  PSP, DS, X360, 3DS, and half-wrong on the Wii and PS3.  Called the PSP to crush the DS, thought the 360 was barely going to surpass the original, thought the 3DS would do a lot worse than it is, and while I called the first half of the Wii and PS3's lifespans, I was dead wrong about the last half.

I can't remember what I predicted about the DSi, but I know I was against it in principle because I thought it would muddy the waters for the DS's actual successor.

just wanted another sign since that number was pretty damn horrible (kinda fixed now but still terrible)

and interesting to hear on what messed up your prediction rate.



plus those 3 vita games really are system sellers  :P
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: maxy on January 10, 2013, 08:16:20 PM
Quote from: Shaka Khan on January 10, 2013, 08:08:32 PM
Quote from: maxy on January 10, 2013, 07:51:28 PM
mr cream is reliable

Vita>125k

lol

Shortages?

of demand

I don't even want to hear about Vita software sales.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: maxy on January 10, 2013, 08:22:40 PM
Some good stuff

FC3: 360+PS3>1M (360 %67)
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: Great Rumbler on January 10, 2013, 08:28:05 PM
Really good sales for Borderlands 2, which it deserved.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: AdmiralViscen on January 10, 2013, 08:28:36 PM
I'd rather have a $150 Vita than a $150 Wii U, by a lot
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on January 10, 2013, 08:29:52 PM
is the vita more powerful than the wiiu?
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: AdmiralViscen on January 10, 2013, 08:33:26 PM
If my Dreamcast broke today I'd rather pay $150 for a replacement than get a Wii U
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: Eel O'Brian on January 10, 2013, 08:34:29 PM
thanks for the response, oscar, interesting points
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: AdmiralViscen on January 10, 2013, 08:41:14 PM
its a tablet, bitches love tablets
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: Purple Filth on January 10, 2013, 08:43:28 PM
MS better strike while the iron is hot imo
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: Mr. Gundam on January 10, 2013, 08:45:16 PM
Is Andrex ok? Someone should go check on him.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: Joe Molotov on January 10, 2013, 08:46:39 PM
Quote from: demi on January 10, 2013, 07:12:22 PM
it has to get better

Wait for Spaceworld.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: maxy on January 10, 2013, 08:49:36 PM
gaf is going with this numbers

Quote
360 - 1400K
3DS - 1250K
PS3 - 625K
WII - 475K
WIU - 460K
PSV - 225K
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: Great Rumbler on January 10, 2013, 08:50:17 PM
Decent 3DS numbers, probably a lot of kids got that for Christmas.

:piss Wii U :piss2
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: Stoney Mason on January 10, 2013, 08:50:18 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on January 10, 2013, 08:40:13 PM
Quote from: MyNameIsMethodis on January 10, 2013, 08:29:52 PM
is the vita more powerful than the wiiu?
It wouldn't be a problem if the WiiU had a cool selling point like the Wii did, but it doesn't.  At all.

Came to post something like this. Ultimately the mass market is deciding that the tablet game pad by itself isn't enough of a big deal.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: AdmiralViscen on January 10, 2013, 08:54:02 PM
Quote from: Great Rumbler on January 10, 2013, 08:50:17 PM
Decent 3DS numbers, probably a lot of kids got that for Christmas.

:piss Wii U :piss2

>20% drop YoY despite a revision and price cut
Title: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: Huff on January 10, 2013, 09:15:01 PM
I'm finding it hard to see a scenario where MS doesn't crush next gen out of the ballpark.   
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: demi on January 10, 2013, 09:32:32 PM
3ds xl is #swag, sell baby sell
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: AdmiralViscen on January 10, 2013, 09:37:12 PM
XBox 8, $299 with three year Xbox Live contract
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: Smooth Groove on January 10, 2013, 09:39:27 PM
I wish it was like stocks where you can put money on  WiiU bombing
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: Flannel Boy on January 10, 2013, 09:48:12 PM
Quote from: Smooth Groove on January 10, 2013, 09:39:27 PM
I wish it was like stocks where you can put money on  WiiU bombing
Short Nintendo? Though I guess that wouldn't be accurate enough as any negative Wii U sales might be offset by revenue from 3DS sales or from Yamauchi's love hotel.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: tiesto on January 10, 2013, 10:07:45 PM
Really want 3DS to sell a lot so more companies will localize their games. That's all I really care about... other than that fuck sales lol.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: Eel O'Brian on January 10, 2013, 10:10:14 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on January 10, 2013, 09:36:02 PM
Quote from: Huff on January 10, 2013, 09:15:01 PM
I'm finding it hard to see a scenario where MS doesn't crush next gen out of the ballpark.   

The only scenario is the one where next gen craps out for everyone, I think.  I wonder if Sony has the resources to battle MS properly next gen.  Them selling that building is another piece of evidence backing the rumours that their liquid assets are insufficient to keep the lights on these days, so to speak.

I am still holding on to my prediction that Gaikai will partially pull their dicks out of the fire
Title: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: Huff on January 10, 2013, 10:14:17 PM
Does the whole used games issue have the potential to ruin a generation for MS if they go in with sony or alone?
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: Eel O'Brian on January 10, 2013, 10:26:57 PM
yeah, a lot of forum pundits think otherwise, and i'm gonna get a lot of enjoyment out of watching that cold splash of reality happen

i still think they're both gonna try it, but they're gonna try to sneak it in through the back door somehow
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: archie4208 on January 10, 2013, 10:36:48 PM
MS and Sony could take baby steps and have games be limited to so many machines/accounts.  They'll start out with a fairly generous number like 10 then eventually reel that in until retail games are single use.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: MCD on January 10, 2013, 10:38:05 PM
MS won't do it

they won't

they won't

i've had enough depression from Windows Phone please don't do this to me
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on January 10, 2013, 10:39:02 PM
Gaikai will play into it. It'll be "buy this game new and get a copy on Gaikai, but then it won't work again once it leaves this system, or, opt into not registering it on gaikai and then you can trade it off w/e " thats my theory
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: AdmiralViscen on January 10, 2013, 10:39:18 PM
3DS SW 3rd party LTD

500k
bird (Yes it's no.1)
400k
ssf4
logo sw3
kh3d
sonic
300k
mario sonic
skylanders
logo potc
200k
re:r
asphalt
logo batman2
rayman
cars2
150k
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: Trent Dole on January 10, 2013, 10:39:33 PM
Something big like Halo 5 will be the first locked game. People will rage a bit but it'll sell fine anyway, other games will follow for a while and people will rage over those as well and then eventually the whole thing will be abandoned and forgotten as a fucking stupid horrible idea like copy protection on CDs was.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: Purple Filth on January 10, 2013, 10:40:42 PM
Quote from: AdmiralViscen on January 10, 2013, 10:39:18 PM
3DS SW 3rd party LTD

500k
bird (Yes it's no.1)
400k
ssf4
logo sw3
kh3d
sonic
300k
mario sonic
skylanders
logo potc
200k
re:r
asphalt
logo batman2
rayman
cars2
150k

 :lol @ Angry Birds killing it here also
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: cool breeze on January 10, 2013, 10:41:17 PM
Did anyone buy that Playstation Smash Bros game...let me rephrase that...has anyone heard of how the Playstation Smash Bros games works with the cross buy? It has to have someway to restrict people from redeeming the Vita version and chucking the PS3 version, right?

Portal 2 didn't but that was on Valve's end.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: tiesto on January 10, 2013, 10:50:50 PM
Shit like limiting used-game sales and DRM make me more happy than ever I am mainly a retro gamer.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: Purple Filth on January 10, 2013, 10:58:11 PM
Stolen;

Quote
Vita SW LTD
Include bundle, and I have no idea which one is 1st party so I post all.

317k
cod
300k
u:ga
ac3
200k
mk
nfl
umvc3
u13
mlb12
mr:rt
100k
2048
lbp
r:bs
fifa
gr
golf
rayman
logo batman2
nfs
mgshd
persona4
little deviants
50k


others, not all
50k
ngasp
pasbr
40k
rr
lumines
30k
ro
katamari
disgaea3
sfxtk
20k

 :lol @ bolded: System seller indeed
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on January 10, 2013, 10:59:41 PM
did virtua tennis sell like 5 copies or something on vita  ???
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: AdmiralViscen on January 10, 2013, 11:00:23 PM
So much for Lumines lol
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on January 10, 2013, 11:01:51 PM
jesus christ thats depressing. it's such a good port too  :'(
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: AdmiralViscen on January 10, 2013, 11:07:32 PM
That's near the top of my vita list, and hot shots, lol
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on January 10, 2013, 11:09:34 PM
theres literally only 5 games on amazons coming soon for vita. The end is near  :'( :'( :'(


http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=lp_3010556011_nr_p_n_date_2?rh=n%3A468642%2Cn%3A%2111846801%2Cn%3A3010556011%2Cp_n_date%3A1249090011&bbn=3010556011&ie=UTF8&qid=1357877319&rnid=1249087011
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: Purple Filth on January 10, 2013, 11:15:20 PM
Quote from: MyNameIsMethodis on January 10, 2013, 11:09:34 PM
theres literally only 5 games on amazons coming soon for vita. The end is near  :'( :'( :'(


http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=lp_3010556011_nr_p_n_date_2?rh=n%3A468642%2Cn%3A%2111846801%2Cn%3A3010556011%2Cp_n_date%3A1249090011&bbn=3010556011&ie=UTF8&qid=1357877319&rnid=1249087011

Just embrace it dude
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on January 10, 2013, 11:22:05 PM
That list is incomplete!

spoiler (click to show/hide)
It's missing Killzone
[close]
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: Damian79 on January 10, 2013, 11:22:25 PM
I know this isnt the vita thread but i didnt want to put a damper on the vita in the offical thread.

Can the vita be the next dreamcast?

*both have great hardware at the time.
*both have arguably great software.
*both are gettign trounced saleswise by thier competitor.
*both have companies in the red.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: Stoney Mason on January 10, 2013, 11:30:59 PM
In a tablet and play games on your phone world, the vita never stood a chance in any place outside of Japan. That's the more relevant issue.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on January 10, 2013, 11:32:50 PM
If Nintendo never dropped the price of the 3DS I think it woudlve been very different
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: Damian79 on January 10, 2013, 11:34:26 PM
Yes the splitting of the market is there but there is still a market with the 3ds selling 1.25 million last month.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: Damian79 on January 10, 2013, 11:35:31 PM
Quote from: MyNameIsMethodis on January 10, 2013, 11:32:50 PM
If Nintendo never dropped the price of the 3DS I think it woudlve been very different

Yeah true but ti shows how stingy Nintendo is.  They could have done it from the start but they were greedy.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: Stoney Mason on January 10, 2013, 11:40:25 PM
Quote from: Damian79 on January 10, 2013, 11:34:26 PM
Yes the splitting of the market is there but there is still a market with the 3ds selling 1.25 million last month.


In western societies there is a market at this stage for one kid friendly handheld device that is on the cheap-ish side and has the Disney like image of Nintendo and their franchises to push it. Not a wanna be console that costs a decent amount and doesn't really have a definable market. Who is the vita for? Serious question.

Now why it seems to be failing in Japan, I have no clue as I'm not part of that society. But calling this thing dead on arrival for America was one of the more easy predictions.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on January 10, 2013, 11:42:37 PM
SCEA did a piss poor job on letting consumers know it even existed.  Even with a shift to tablets/smartphones, when the hardware manufacturer does its best to pretend it doesn't even exist, it's pretty much doomed from the get go nor does it inspire much faith in publishers and developers to waste their time.

Again, it's why it baffles me to think that Sony is going to pull it together for PS4.  They've been fucking things up so much for so long that it will be a miracle if they can get a new console released in a competent faction.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: Damian79 on January 10, 2013, 11:43:56 PM
Thats true.  Maybe cellphone gaming is catching on Japan too...
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: Damian79 on January 10, 2013, 11:45:44 PM
Quote from: The Experiment on January 10, 2013, 11:42:37 PM
SCEA did a piss poor job on letting consumers know it even existed.  Even with a shift to tablets/smartphones, when the hardware manufacturer does its best to pretend it doesn't even exist, it's pretty much doomed from the get go nor does it inspire much faith in publishers and developers to waste their time.

Again, it's why it baffles me to think that Sony is going to pull it together for PS4.  They've been fucking things up so much for so long that it will be a miracle if they can get a new console released in a competent faction.

Then again when you see Nintendo with a winning streak pull out the abomination that is the wii u you have to think it is just chance.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on January 10, 2013, 11:48:34 PM
The Wii U is so unambitious that it crossed the line into being lazy and half assed.  Nintendo kept aiming lower and lower and finally hit the breaking point.

Speaking of Wii U, wow, those sales are truly pathetic.  January is going to start the death march.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on January 10, 2013, 11:48:46 PM
nintendos been getting by on the goodwill of the NES and SNES for too long. that ship has to sink soon
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: Smooth Groove on January 11, 2013, 12:01:51 AM
Quote from: Damian79 on January 10, 2013, 11:22:25 PM
I know this isnt the vita thread but i didnt want to put a damper on the vita in the offical thread.

Can the vita be the next dreamcast?

*both have great hardware at the time.
*both have arguably great software.
*both are gettign trounced saleswise by thier competitor.
*both have companies in the red.

horrible comparison

DC had best looking and playing games for at least a year

Not even including 1st party games, many new games from major franchises were on the DC first
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on January 11, 2013, 12:04:51 AM
vita has the best looking and playing handheld games hth
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: Smooth Groove on January 11, 2013, 12:05:52 AM
best looking fo sho

not enough genres or exclusives though
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: maxy on January 11, 2013, 02:08:04 AM
Quote
Surprisingly, Far Cry 3 accomplished the second-most successful December launch NPD has recorded since it started monitoring sales in 1995,
:bow2

WiiU dec

nsmbu
jd4
su
sonic
zombi
mickey
cod
skylanders
batman
nland
ac3
sing party
nfl
espn
wipeout
avengers
rabbid
nba
fifa

EAlol
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: Stoney Mason on January 11, 2013, 02:10:11 AM
Nice. Game well deserves it.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on January 11, 2013, 02:55:44 AM
I have a huge grin.

Ps triple outsold the WiiU if you if you look at December 2006 sales. It was 599.

 :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: maxy on January 11, 2013, 03:03:40 AM
Quote
Zombiiiiiiiiiii is the only 3rd party Wii U game > 100k (LTD)
And super super wonder wonder book still < 40k (LTD)

uhh
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: pilonv1 on January 11, 2013, 03:29:08 AM
Quote from: maxy on January 11, 2013, 02:08:04 AM
Quote
Surprisingly, Far Cry 3 accomplished the second-most successful December launch NPD has recorded since it started monitoring sales in 1995,
:bow2

No one launches games in December though
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: maxy on January 11, 2013, 03:32:10 AM
Maybe now they will.
Title: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: Shaka Khan on January 11, 2013, 04:12:46 AM
Snaggots: Look at dat Wii U lmao salty!
Ninthings: Would people be kind enough to discuss the Vita instead? It's more important.
Ad infinitum...
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on January 11, 2013, 04:34:17 AM
This would be a valid reason if we would live in Japan and handhelds mattered, or if youre a handheld gamer for some niche games.

Most of people in the west that are not children don't really care about handhelds, they car about home consoles and the next COD.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: Fifstar on January 11, 2013, 05:19:54 AM
Quote from: Stoney Mason on January 10, 2013, 11:40:25 PM
Quote from: Damian79 on January 10, 2013, 11:34:26 PM
Yes the splitting of the market is there but there is still a market with the 3ds selling 1.25 million last month.


In western societies there is a market at this stage for one kid friendly handheld device that is on the cheap-ish side and has the Disney like image of Nintendo and their franchises to push it. Not a wanna be console that costs a decent amount and doesn't really have a definable market. Who is the vita for? Serious question.

Probably has always been this way, just that even this market has shrunk more this generation. I wonder if Nintendo would be in a significantly better position in the west if they would have launched the 3DS at a lower price & hardware that was clearly distinguishable from the DS and it's various models.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: maxy on January 11, 2013, 05:27:32 AM
Borys posted this in WiiU thread,it deserves to be mentioned in sales thread

http://www.nintendo.com/wiiu/features/compare/

No wonder that people say things like this

"Why can't I buy that controller for my Wii?Stupid."
" What a ripoff >:("
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on January 11, 2013, 05:31:56 AM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on January 11, 2013, 04:52:19 AM
Quote from: Premium Lager on January 11, 2013, 04:34:17 AM
This would be a valid reason if we would live in Japan and handhelds mattered, or if youre a handheld gamer for some niche games.

Most of people in the west that are not children don't really care about handhelds, they car about home consoles and the next COD.

they also care a lot about their smartphones.

but hey, some of us do live in japan, buttmunch

I know Oscar-sun  :heartbeat

Can I say sun?

Wasnt this like a less formal san?
Quote from: maxy on January 11, 2013, 05:27:32 AM
Borys posted this in WiiU thread,it deserves to be mentioned in sales thread

http://www.nintendo.com/wiiu/features/compare/

No wonder that people say things like this

"Why can't I buy that controller for my Wii?Stupid."
" What a ripoff >:("

Yeah wtf this directly makes a link between the two.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: maxy on January 11, 2013, 07:42:34 AM
JD4(Wii)>Halo 4

see Borys

Wii doesn't sell software lol

Pretty amazing piece of software--crappy reviews,internet laughing,debuts in UK bellow top 40 but then it starts climbing and climbing and sticking around like some nasty old chewing gum and in December 2012 it outsells big "AAA" shooter...
Ubisoft really hit the jackpot with this.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: Positive Touch on January 11, 2013, 08:27:28 AM
who wouldve guessed that people like to dance
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: maxy on January 11, 2013, 08:29:37 AM
Franchise ltd was 25 million back in January 2012.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: maxy on January 11, 2013, 08:45:01 AM
Yeah,5 million on XBLA with $20 price,very smart move by MS.People say that lots of kids asked 360 for Christmas because of Minecraft.

I guess this is just one more proof that you don't need $100 million flashy corridor graphics to sell something.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: Third on January 11, 2013, 08:55:22 AM
460k for WiiU is more than I expected  :-\
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: Third on January 11, 2013, 09:00:25 AM
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=507863

Poor guy  :lol
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on January 11, 2013, 09:04:26 AM
If I was like 10/12 I'd be all over Skylanders prob.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on January 11, 2013, 09:05:25 AM
Quote from: Positive Touch on January 11, 2013, 08:27:28 AM
who wouldve guessed that people like to dance

10/10

I'm suprised ther aren't more COOKING games.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: maxy on January 11, 2013, 09:10:00 AM
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In a statement passed to VG247, UK score-keepers GfK Chart Track have announced that Skylanders is the 3rd best-selling game franchise in Britain to date, behind Call of Duty at first and FIFA at third.

The franchise has amassed $500 million in America alone since it began, and the second game in the series – Skylanders: Giants – has made $195 million in America since it launched last year. The figure covers sales of the actual game, accessories and toy packs.
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ohn Coyne, VP of Consumer Marketing at Activision said of the stats, “Just a year ago, the concept of bringing toys to life in a virtual world was an untested play pattern that Activision and Toys For Bob believed in. Now the category has been established in the market and embraced by parents and kids everywhere.

http://www.vg247.com/2013/01/11/skylanders-series-hits-500-million-in-us-lifetime-sales-3rd-best-selling-uk-franchise-of-all-time/
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on January 11, 2013, 09:17:27 AM
While Ubi makes an AR game that sells bucketloads Nintendo makes a "3D" pokemon with 4 grid restricted movement.

This is what happens if you stay in the getto Nintendo.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: maxy on January 11, 2013, 09:27:01 AM
More info

http://www.mcvuk.com/news/read/activision-toasts-another-blockbuster-franchise-skylanders-passes-500m-us-gross/0109192

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According to GfK it's already the third-bestselling franchise in the UK, after EA's FIFA and Call of Duty.

In the US, NPD data says Skylanders is outselling popular rival brands such as Beyblades, WWE and Star Wars.

Skylanders sequel Skylanders Giants (which adds newer, bigger figures that light-up to the series - pictured) generated more than $195 million in US sales, inclusive of accessory packs and figures, in 2012 - which Activision's announcement today happily points out "eclipsed domestic box office sales for each of the top holiday kids feature films including Wreck-It Ralph and Rise of the Guardians".

That's 40 per cent of the US revenues made in just two months, while original release Skylanders generated the other $300m+ over a year.

“Just a year ago, the concept of bringing toys to life in a virtual world was an untested play pattern that Activision and Toys For Bob believed in.  Now the category has been established in the market and embraced by parents and kids everywhere,” said John Coyne, VP of consumer marketing at Activision Publishing in the announcement. 

“We’re humbled by the continued support and acclaim from parents, kids and critics alike, but more importantly, it’s gratifying to see kids excited about the adventures that await them both in the digital and physical worlds.”

Toys R Us, which has been a key retailer for the game, even sang the series praises:

“Even before the concept was fully formed, we were immediately taken with the charm and magic behind the Skylanders property and following the highly successful introduction of Skylanders Spyro’s Adventures, we knew that Skylanders Giants would be a top-seller in 2012,” said Richard Barry, EVP and chief merchandising officer.

“We believe that Skylanders is one of the most innovative and exciting toy properties to hit the market and are thrilled to continue our strong support of the brand.”
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: maxy on January 11, 2013, 09:40:54 AM
Fix Ubi then
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on January 11, 2013, 09:43:04 AM
Yep.

I've no doubt Pokemon will sell millions as well. But it's no Skylanders in the West apparently, and it targets the same demographic no?
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: Don Flamenco on January 11, 2013, 09:50:51 AM
Quote from: MyNameIsMethodis on January 10, 2013, 11:09:34 PM
theres literally only 5 games on amazons coming soon for vita. The end is near  :'( :'( :'(


http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=lp_3010556011_nr_p_n_date_2?rh=n%3A468642%2Cn%3A%2111846801%2Cn%3A3010556011%2Cp_n_date%3A1249090011&bbn=3010556011&ie=UTF8&qid=1357877319&rnid=1249087011


maybe this was Kaz's plan all along?
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: MCD on January 11, 2013, 09:51:48 AM
D-Arts already selling Pokémon toys:

(http://i.imgur.com/nMFBB.jpg)

Just make them game related/compatible and they will get their Skylanders.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: maxy on January 11, 2013, 10:04:54 AM
Quote from: Don Flamenco on January 11, 2013, 09:50:51 AM
Quote from: MyNameIsMethodis on January 10, 2013, 11:09:34 PM
theres literally only 5 games on amazons coming soon for vita. The end is near  :'( :'( :'(


http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=lp_3010556011_nr_p_n_date_2?rh=n%3A468642%2Cn%3A%2111846801%2Cn%3A3010556011%2Cp_n_date%3A1249090011&bbn=3010556011&ie=UTF8&qid=1357877319&rnid=1249087011


maybe this was Kaz's plan all along?

Master plan,etc,etc

Kaz comment on Vita
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“I would say it’s on the low end of what we expected,” said Mr. Hirai. He noted, however, that it takes 5-10 years before he can say a product has been successful. He said similar questions were asked about the PlayStation 3 early in its cycle, but he now sees that console as a success. “Long term is what is important,” he said.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: Joe Molotov on January 11, 2013, 10:24:25 AM
Sony is burning according to many on The Bore. And while the Vita is definitely having its problems, I'm asking myself, was this the master plan the whole time? Sony finished with a red ledger in it's last fiscal year. This is the fourth annual loss in a row. There were a variety of factors that contributed to that loss, many still affecting the company, but Sony still gave guidance that they would return to profitability by their fiscal end this March.

During the US Holiday season, the Vita sold 225,000 units. You've all seen the reactions to those numbers earlier in the thread. This is not the time to have that discussion. The Vita is also the only hardware Sony is currently selling at a loss. The PS3 (now profitable) sold 625,000 units and remarkably the PSP sold ~50,000 units. That's 675,000 units of money making hardware over a 60 day trading period.

So was this the real strategy? Launch the Vita to the hardcore fans and begin to build their install base while taking a small loss-to-small profit, but protect the bottom line by pulling every last dollar out of the PS3/PSP? Clearly Vtia is not performing to guidance or expectation, but the continued success of the PS3/PSP will improve the companies profitability.

Sony is a business after all, and their number one responsibility is to make money.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on January 11, 2013, 10:30:19 AM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on January 11, 2013, 09:46:32 AM
Ah, right you are.  He should have said Activision, not Ubi, then.  :wag

I don't know why Nintendo doesn't get on it.  They already sell a bucketload of Pokemon games and a bucketload of Pokemon toys.  It should be trivial to bring them together.  Maybe they don't think it would make them any more money than the current layout.

This is what it always comes down to with Nintendo it seems, but I stress that not going forward with this a bit more is what will bite them in the ass one day (already?)

Sorry for Ubi/Activision mixup I'm at work  :P
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: maxy on January 11, 2013, 10:41:02 AM
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Vtia

aha!got you


Some sales stuff

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2012 UK All Formats Chart - Source: GfK Chart-Track

NB: 2012 had two games selling over one million. 2011 had five.

1.   Black Ops 2
2.   FIFA 13
3.   Assassin's Creed III
4.   Halo IV
5.   Hitman Absolution
6.   Just Dance 4
7.   Far Cry 3
8.   FIFA 12
9.   Skyrim
10.   Borderlands 2
11.   Mass Effect 3
12.   LEGO Batman 2
13.   Need for Speed: Most Wanted
14.   FIFA Street
15.   Mario & Sonic London 2012
16.   Skylanders Giants
17.   Battlefield 3
18.   Modern Warfare 3
19.   Max Payne 3
20.   Sleeping Dogs
21.   Resident Evil 6
22.   London 2012
23.   Ghost Recon: Future Soldier
24.   Dishonoured
25.   WWE 13
26.   LEGO Lord of the Rings
27.   Forza Motorsport 4
28.   New Super Mario Bros 2
29.   Medal of Honour Warfighter
30.   Assassin's Creed Revelations
31.   Just Dance 3
32.   Mario Kart 7
33.   F1 2012
34.   Batman Arkham City
35.   Football Manager 2013
36.   Super Mario 3D Land
37.   Forza Horizon
38.   Saints Row The Third
39.   Skylanders: Spyro's Adventure
40.   LEGO Harry Potter 5-7
41.   Sniper Elite V2
42.   Sonic Generations
43.   Rayman Origins
44.   Final Fantasy XIII-2
45.   Dead Island Game of the Year
46.   Zumba Fitness
47.   Amazing Spider-man
48.   Moshi Monsters: Moshlings Theme Park
49.   LEGO Pirates of the Caribbean
50.   SSX
51.   Kinect Star Wars
52.   Tiger Woods 13
53.   Moshi Monsters: Moshling Zoo
54.   The Sims 3
55.   Zumba Fitness 2
56.   Black Ops
57.   Need for Speed: The Run
58.   Prototype 2
59.   Diablo III
60.   Mario Kart Wii
61.   RAGE
62.   UFC Undisputed 3
63.   WWE 12
64.   Cars 2
65.   Metal Gear Solid HD Collection
66.   PES 2013
67.   Skate 3
68.   GTA IV: Episodes
69.   Football Manager 2012
70.   Uncharted 3
71.   Pokemon Black V2
72.   Darksiders II
73.   LEGO Harry Potter 1-4
74.   Mario Party 9
75.   Kinect Sports
76.   F1 2011
77.   Kingdoms of Amalur
78.   Gran Turismo 5
79.   Sonic Racing Transformed
80.   uDraw Instant Artist
81.   GTA IV
82.   Professor Layton: Miracle Mask
83.   Angry Birds Trilogy
84.   Kinect Disneyland Adventures
85.   LEGO Batman
86.   LEGO Star Wars III
87.   Pokemon White V2
88.   Toy Story 3
89.   Guild Wars 2
90.   The Sims 3: Pets
91.   Uncharted Golden Abyss
92.   Doom 3: BFG
93.   Rocksmith
94.   Resident Evil: Operation Raccoon City
95.   Wii Fit Plus
96.   Wonderbook: Book of Spells
97.   Dance Central 2
98.   DiRT Showdown
99.   007 Legends
100.   Halo Anniversary
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on January 11, 2013, 12:24:11 PM
ROCKSMITH OUTSOLD ROCKBGAND!
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: Himu on January 11, 2013, 01:31:01 PM
Wii U sold less than 500k units...in DECEMBER?

:rofl

HOW MANY UNITS DID NINTENDO MANUFACTURE?!?!
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: Himu on January 11, 2013, 01:31:41 PM
Vita is 120k for DECEMBER?

ahahahahahha
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: Himu on January 11, 2013, 01:34:59 PM
http://www.the-coli.com/arcadium/77845-december-2012-npd-microsoft%92s-response-xbox-360-sells-1-4-million.html#.UPBasG81lWI
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: Father_Brain on January 11, 2013, 01:52:10 PM
Quote from: Formerly Known As Himuro on January 11, 2013, 01:31:41 PM
Vita is 120k for DECEMBER?

ahahahahahha

Nah, it was more like 220K.  Which is still just a bit over half PSP's December numbers from 2010, and 30-40K below its December numbers from 2011.

It actually sold worse in its first holiday season than multiple systems that were universally considered dead did over the holidays at the end of their lifespans (GC circa 2005, PSP circa 2010-2011).   No chance it'll have anything close to a normal generational lifespan at this point; the only question is how much longer Sony will try (or pretend to try) to stave off the inevitable.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on January 11, 2013, 02:04:40 PM
Sony can save vita in japan, psp sales show that. They just need to make japanese games.

They launched vita with a last ditch effort to capture the western market with uncharted, wipeout etc. it failed. Now they should salvage it by releasinh japanese games. They can def get 5+ million sales there if they do.
Title: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: Shaka Khan on January 11, 2013, 02:44:37 PM
Quote from: Father_Brain on January 11, 2013, 01:52:10 PM
the only question is how much longer Sony will try (or pretend to try) to stave off the inevitable.

I'm not sure how "hard" they're trying, but according to recent interviews it sounds like they are trying to initiate talks with devs but they're understandably not biting ("I see instead of holding bags of cash you're only holding that *thing*, lol thanks but no thanks~"). Devs haven't even shown lots of confidence or enthusiasm towards the PS4, so a Vita resurgence is highly, highly, unlikely at this point if things continue at the same trajectory.

I've reached the point where I don't really care and think the only reason people keep bringing it up is to deflect and make anything underperforming look better. I mean, my god, these numbers don't lie! It's dead.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: Don Flamenco on January 11, 2013, 03:04:07 PM
too early to say if it's guaranteed dead at this point.  I don't think NPD is the best predictor...sales are an after the fact indicator of whether the content out there motivates people to buy one.  There isn't a whole lot out there for the Vita and hasn't been since launch.  But it hasn't even been a full year yet, so it's not hard to imagine some kind of software push before they give up completely.  Shitty versions of Assassin's Creed (well, a shittier version of the shit they put on consoles) and Call of Duty are apparently not gonna cut it.  I'm not sure what would cut it...I'm happy with ports and BC, personally :lol

I'll be more secure in calling it's time of death if the months leading up to E3 are devoid of announcements and if E3 has some pathetic showing of games just stave off the declaration of failure to a less high-profile time.   
Title: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: Shaka Khan on January 11, 2013, 03:11:12 PM
There's always Ys to look forward to~
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: Father_Brain on January 11, 2013, 03:37:25 PM
Quote from: Don Flamenco on January 11, 2013, 03:04:07 PM
too early to say if it's guaranteed dead at this point.  I don't think NPD is the best predictor...sales are an after the fact indicator of whether the content out there motivates people to buy one.  There isn't a whole lot out there for the Vita and hasn't been since launch.  But it hasn't even been a full year yet, so it's not hard to imagine some kind of software push before they give up completely.  Shitty versions of Assassin's Creed (well, a shittier version of the shit they put on consoles) and Call of Duty are apparently not gonna cut it.  I'm not sure what would cut it...I'm happy with ports and BC, personally :lol

I'll be more secure in calling it's time of death if the months leading up to E3 are devoid of announcements and if E3 has some pathetic showing of games just stave off the declaration of failure to a less high-profile time.   

Vita has two E3s, two Gamescoms, two TGSes, and (in Japan) two holiday seasons under its belt.  The dearth of significant new software announcements in 2012 ought to speak for itself.  If there's any renewed software push, it'll have to come from Sony itself, which has no real established system-seller IP on handhelds and seems unlikely to create any.

I sympathize with people who want to keep playing the "wait for" game, but Sony simply doesn't deserve any benefit of the doubt at this point, and hasn't since TGS.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: Purple Filth on January 11, 2013, 03:37:26 PM
Quote from: Don Flamenco on January 11, 2013, 09:50:51 AM
maybe this was Kaz's plan all along?


Quote from: Joe Molotov on January 11, 2013, 10:24:25 AM
Sony is burning according to many on The Bore. And while the Vita is definitely having its problems, I'm asking myself, was this the master plan the whole time? Sony finished with a red ledger in it's last fiscal year. This is the fourth annual loss in a row. There were a variety of factors that contributed to that loss, many still affecting the company, but Sony still gave guidance that they would return to profitability by their fiscal end this March.

During the US Holiday season, the Vita sold 225,000 units. You've all seen the reactions to those numbers earlier in the thread. This is not the time to have that discussion. The Vita is also the only hardware Sony is currently selling at a loss. The PS3 (now profitable) sold 625,000 units and remarkably the PSP sold ~50,000 units. That's 675,000 units of money making hardware over a 60 day trading period.

So was this the real strategy? Launch the Vita to the hardcore fans and begin to build their install base while taking a small loss-to-small profit, but protect the bottom line by pulling every last dollar out of the PS3/PSP? Clearly Vtia is not performing to guidance or expectation, but the continued success of the PS3/PSP will improve the companies profitability.

Sony is a business after all, and their number one responsibility is to make money.

 :lol :lol :lol

Quote from: Shaka Khan on January 11, 2013, 02:44:37 PM
Quote from: Father_Brain on January 11, 2013, 01:52:10 PM
the only question is how much longer Sony will try (or pretend to try) to stave off the inevitable.

I'm not sure how "hard" they're trying, but according to recent interviews it sounds like they are trying to initiate talks with devs but they're understandably not biting ("I see instead of holding bags of cash you're only holding that *thing*, lol thanks but no thanks~"). Devs haven't even shown lots of confidence or enthusiasm towards the PS4, so a Vita resurgence is highly, highly, unlikely at this point if things continue at the same trajectory.

I've reached the point where I don't really care and think the only reason people keep bringing it up is to deflect and make anything underperforming look better. I mean, my god, these numbers don't lie! It's dead.


Pretty much the ninfan defense of anything WiiU related  :lol
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: Father_Brain on January 11, 2013, 03:40:12 PM
Well, yeah, "at least it's selling better than Vita" isn't a very high bar to clear.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: Purple Filth on January 11, 2013, 04:04:22 PM
Quote from: Father_Brain on January 11, 2013, 03:40:12 PM
Well, yeah, "at least it's selling better than Vita" isn't a very high bar to clear.

It really isn't but nah they have to get one in at any cost for the honor of the fatherland.


As for the vita people just have to except it imo.

i would compare it to someone with a terminal illness.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: tiesto on January 11, 2013, 04:13:12 PM
Quote from: Shaka Khan on January 11, 2013, 03:11:12 PM
There's always Ys to look forward to~

Yeah, right now my hope is for Ys to come out during a firesale of the Vita, then I can get one cheap to play that, Wipeout, and Gravity Rush.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: Phoenix Dark on January 11, 2013, 04:46:12 PM
Just heard the WiiU sold less than 500k in the US for December. WUT
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: maxy on January 11, 2013, 04:57:01 PM
Yeah,460k.
I don't think hardware sales are particularly bad--more like meh,whatever.Software sales on the other hand...uhoh
Title: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: Huff on January 11, 2013, 05:08:09 PM
I'm love ma vita, but I've already loaded a handgun and dug a spot in the yard for it
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: Joe Molotov on January 11, 2013, 05:47:00 PM
Quote from: Borys on January 11, 2013, 10:25:01 AM
Fake, Joe never makes posts longer than 20 words :smug

~12 years ago, I'd have given you a fisking like you wouldn't believe! :maf
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: Steve Contra on January 11, 2013, 05:52:50 PM
Quote from: maxy on January 11, 2013, 04:57:01 PM
Yeah,460k.
I don't think hardware sales are particularly bad--more like meh,whatever.Software sales on the other hand...uhoh
They're both bad.
Title: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: Huff on January 11, 2013, 06:45:28 PM
Oscar, do you think Sony was unable to see that there wasn't a market for a high end handheld or they did but it was too late and they put it out to try and hope for a miracle
Title: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: Shaka Khan on January 11, 2013, 06:51:19 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on January 11, 2013, 06:30:03 PM
As to Vita resurgence talk, it's silly.  The differences between the PSP and Vita are many, and none of them favour Vita.  Here in Japan, many department stores (Japan's answer to Walmart) have flat out stopped carrying Vita and its software.  Even big electronics stores have cut Vita shelf space down to relatively nothing.  It's pretty much in 360 ville now.  PSP never got even close to this bad.

This is truly heartbreaking :(
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: MCD on January 11, 2013, 06:53:25 PM
There is still hope for Vita

Slash the price of the console, slash the memory prices or bundle them more, make the OS less INSANE (Why the fuck can't we backup our saves this isn't a Windows Phone FFS) and get more JAPANESE GAMES and less CALL OF SHIT PORTS.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: Don Flamenco on January 11, 2013, 07:17:00 PM
Quote from: Father_Brain on January 11, 2013, 03:37:25 PM
Quote from: Don Flamenco on January 11, 2013, 03:04:07 PM
too early to say if it's guaranteed dead at this point.  I don't think NPD is the best predictor...sales are an after the fact indicator of whether the content out there motivates people to buy one.  There isn't a whole lot out there for the Vita and hasn't been since launch.  But it hasn't even been a full year yet, so it's not hard to imagine some kind of software push before they give up completely.  Shitty versions of Assassin's Creed (well, a shittier version of the shit they put on consoles) and Call of Duty are apparently not gonna cut it.  I'm not sure what would cut it...I'm happy with ports and BC, personally :lol

I'll be more secure in calling it's time of death if the months leading up to E3 are devoid of announcements and if E3 has some pathetic showing of games just stave off the declaration of failure to a less high-profile time.   

Vita has two E3s, two Gamescoms, two TGSes, and (in Japan) two holiday seasons under its belt.  The dearth of significant new software announcements in 2012 ought to speak for itself.  If there's any renewed software push, it'll have to come from Sony itself, which has no real established system-seller IP on handhelds and seems unlikely to create any.

I sympathize with people who want to keep playing the "wait for" game, but Sony simply doesn't deserve any benefit of the doubt at this point, and hasn't since TGS.

well they aren't going to suddenly stop production of it tomorrow because of this NPD.  I'm not sure why taking the wait and see approach is bad, consider that's what we'll get to do until it's officially dead.  I guess it's not as dramatic as calling it already dead.

also, it came out February this year in the U.S.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: maxy on January 11, 2013, 07:25:35 PM
Quote
well they aren't going to suddenly stop production of it tomorrow because of this NPD.  I'm not sure why taking the wait and see approach is bad, consider that's what we'll get to do until it's officially dead.  I guess it's not as dramatic as calling it already dead.

I'm sure that Sony will sell a building or two to push Vita.

 :P
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: Don Flamenco on January 11, 2013, 07:33:07 PM
Maybe this was Kutaragi's plan all along...

(http://i.imgur.com/rhGlG.jpg)

...revenge.


i'm interested to see how Soul Sacrifice will be received in Japan.  It got a lucky break with the MH delay, but i'm not sure if it'll do well for a Vita game or genuinely hit hard.  Or no effect at all...
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: demi on January 11, 2013, 07:55:12 PM
Price drop please, I got tax monies to spend
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on January 11, 2013, 08:51:08 PM
The Wal Mart here has only like 6 vita games and theyre hidden in between the "B Roll" of PS3 games around a corner. Wanted to take apicture cuz its so sad :(

WiiU was set up the same way, but mixed in with the Wii games
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: MCD on January 11, 2013, 08:59:02 PM
If there is no hope left for this turd then please just release Ys and end my suffering
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: MCD on January 11, 2013, 09:04:45 PM
They better don't drop it like the Trails series or there will be WAR
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: AdmiralViscen on January 11, 2013, 09:47:28 PM
Analysis: Why the PS3 77m report is likely false. #1
IDC a research firm has recently reported that the PS3 has apparently overtaken the Xbox 360, 77m to 76m, widely discussed in this thread. Myself and others that follow sales have noticed and argued why it's very unlikely this is the case and that IDC are either lying or mistaken (I'm thinking the latter which I'll get to shortly.) Either way it's no surprise from the company that gave us this little gem. This is doing the rounds on most of the sites without anyone bothering to do much research, and people here are using it in debates.


First off I'll go back to the last solid PS3 shipment number we got before Sony merged PS2 and PS3 quarterly shipments. This would be a LTD of 63.9m as of March 31st, the end of Sony's FY. That Q the PS3 was down 0.2m YOY.

The following Q's looked like this.

Q2 Apr/June: 2.8m PS2 + PS3
Q3 July/Sep: 3.5m PS2 + PS3

In Q2 2011 the PS3 shipped 1.8m, it's noted in the financials that the PS3 was down this Q but it's unclear whether they mean in terms of Revenue or Units. What we do know is that the PS3 was down around 160,000 units in the US (NPD) and up in Japan 50,000 units. So between the two, down 110,000 units. No other data for Europe or around the world.

In Q3 we know for Sure PS3 was down, as it shipped 3.7m by itself in 2011, in Q3 this year it sold 3.5m with the PS2 included as well. It was down in the US by 260,000 units and down in Japan 275,000 units. So those two regions combined 525,000. Again no data for Europe or elsewhere. In the same period last year the PS2 shipped 1.2 million.

By end of September the sheer maximum amount of PS3's there could be on shelves was 70.2 million, that is without Sony shipping any PS2 at all, the likelyhood of that is low.

It's debatable what PS3 is truly at end of September, anywhere from 63.9 - 70.2.

I imagine (feel free to debate this!) Q2 broke down into around 1.8m PS3 (flat) and 1m PS2 (down 400k) and Q3 being 2.8m PS3 (down 900k) and PS2 700k (down 500k).

This would put PS3 at about 68.5m. It may be higher, it may be lower It's a good average for what we've got to work with though.

Fast forward to today and we apparently have 77 million PS3's. For comparison, last Q4 Sony shipped 6.5m PS3's. Even if we go off that highest figure 70.2, that means they would have had to have shipped 6.8m this Q. Of course it wasn't at 70.2, more likely the 68.5 I arrived at. So make that 8.5m Sony would have had to have shipped this Q to reach 77 mill.

This makes no sense given;

A) They're down in the US this Q around 550,000 units, and down in Japan around 125,000 units. So 675,000 combined.
B) Reaching 77m means PS3 just had it's best ever year shipping 15 million! This is up 700k on its previous best, despite being down Q1,Q3 (probably Q2 given the sales data we have) and down in the US this year over 1.14m and down in Japan over 330,000k.
C) Sony were not even forecasting 15m shipped. They expected around 13m PS3, and 16m PS2 + PS3 combined for their FY (ends march, Q1 will likely be similar to this years, certainly not up!)

We don't have any data for Europe, the strongest market for Sony. This doesn't automatically mean it's up or even flat there though. the US is 360's strongest market and that's dropped 25% there. Simply having 'PS3 is a beast in Europe' as your argument won't do when you have no numbers or evidence to back it up.

Lastly we have the 70m figure from Sony at the start of Nov, which means Sony would have had to have shipped 7m between Nov-Dec. This is more than what they've done any other Q in PS3 history despite having a month shaved off (where retailers are buying in prep of the holiday.)

My thoughts on how IDC arrived at these numbers. Well, they either guessed. Or they have seen Sony's financials, which state PS3 + PS2 shipped around 6.8m combined and added that onto the previous combined figure of 70.2m.

Is there a way the 77m figure is true? Sure, Sony shipped 8.5m during this Q. For that to happen they would have had to have stuffed the channels (big time).

MS did this last holiday you say? Well, 360 had it's best ever year in actual sell through last year in the US. In its biggest market it was actually very slightly up during the holiday. (2011) All evidence we have for PS3 this year does not suggest the same. There are other arguments as to how that figure they shipped isn't as abnormal as many think.

Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on January 11, 2013, 09:49:40 PM
autism the post
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: Great Rumbler on January 11, 2013, 09:53:21 PM
lololloololololol sony put in its place [dead last]
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on January 11, 2013, 09:53:37 PM
Quote from: Huff on January 11, 2013, 05:08:09 PM
I'm love ma vita, but I've already loaded a handgun and dug a spot in the yard for it

The grave is dug, the Vita is choking out a death rattle and looking at you to end the pain...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E0w1W5RGx9Q

In the next few months, it might be advisable to get the games you need to get because I doubt there will be much of a clearance since there wasn't much out there in the first place.  Maybe you can flip these games for big money later on...
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: Flannel Boy on January 11, 2013, 10:19:14 PM
Quote from: MyNameIsMethodis on January 11, 2013, 08:51:08 PM
The Wal Mart here has only like 6 vita games and theyre hidden in between the "B Roll" of PS3 games around a corner. Wanted to take apicture cuz its so sad :(

WiiU was set up the same way, but mixed in with the Wii games

Even stock boys can't tell the difference.
Title: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: Shaka Khan on January 11, 2013, 10:22:11 PM
Quote from: MyNameIsMethodis on January 11, 2013, 09:49:40 PM
autism the post

Wouldn't it be amazing if some blog runs with that title?

"Kotaku: Autistic poster disputes PS3 sales claims"
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: Trent Dole on January 11, 2013, 10:57:49 PM
Vita's partially fucked in Japan due to the OG PSP still thriving. There's an article or two about some JP PSP game most days on Siliconera.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: Flannel Boy on January 11, 2013, 11:03:42 PM
Quote from: Trent Dole on January 11, 2013, 10:57:49 PM
Vita's partially fucked in Japan due to the OG PSP still thriving. There's an article or two about some JP PSP game most days on Siliconera.

Then Sony should just pretend it never released the Vita. The PSP is almost as powerful as the 3DS, but with twice the installed base. Sony wins Japan.  :usavich :uguu :geoff :uguu :usavich
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: Tasty on January 11, 2013, 11:05:02 PM
:lol
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: Flannel Boy on January 11, 2013, 11:07:44 PM

Looks like Capcom is moving MH back to the PSP. Sorry, Andrex.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: MCD on January 11, 2013, 11:08:54 PM
My PSP GO is ready!
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: Tasty on January 11, 2013, 11:09:05 PM
Anyways, Sony really screwed itself with UMDs. If the Vita was backwards compatible they could just stop PSP production and use Vita as the new model and trojan horse it for at least some Vita software sales, but with the way things are... they're two completely different systems.

Nintendo for whatever reason partially understands this; their systems always have full BC with the previous system and thus they can sell the 3DS to people who never had or sold their DS's and missed some games. That's not possible with the Vita.

Part of me wishes Nintendo was a bit more aggressive with phasing out old models, but there's probably financial reasons they don't.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: AdmiralViscen on January 11, 2013, 11:30:26 PM
Oscar, why didn't Japanese third parties give vita the time of day?
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on January 11, 2013, 11:34:42 PM
Quote from: AdmiralViscen on January 11, 2013, 11:30:26 PM
Oscar, why didn't Japanese third parties give vita the time of day?

Because you can't easily port down from PS3 or 360 like what was led to be believed, and original games cost wayyyyyyyy more than it does to make a PSP game at this day and age
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: Flannel Boy on January 11, 2013, 11:42:55 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on January 11, 2013, 11:40:58 PM
um.  methodis is... right?


mayans were off by a few months. 
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: AdmiralViscen on January 11, 2013, 11:45:03 PM
Handhelds used to be my spot.  I have like 4 3ds games
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on January 11, 2013, 11:50:32 PM
I just don't know where the 3DS will get games either. Now that the Wii and PS2 are officialy dead theres nothing to port over like the PSP had. Devs would have to create entirely new assets and shit. I guess it really depends on the next generation though, I wouldn't be surprised that alot of indie devs flock to the handhelds as a main development source because of the cost of making a console title. but what do i know
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: Raban on January 11, 2013, 11:54:45 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on January 11, 2013, 11:06:55 PM
I actually think that's probably the strategy they'll end up going with.  They probably hoped to turn their fortunes around outside Japan with the Vita.  Now that that isn't happening, there's no reason not to just go back to focusing on PSP domestically.

Too bad Sony's handheld efforts in America are nil in this equation. Goddamnit.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on January 11, 2013, 11:55:40 PM
what is the most popular mobile in japan? the iphone?
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: tiesto on January 12, 2013, 12:51:50 AM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on January 11, 2013, 09:02:33 PM
I hope Ys gets a release in English.  I'm not as confident as I was in the past.

Well, at least the Vita is region-free and Ys is a series not usually known for its exposition and storyline. Much easier to import than a Kiseki game, and no need to buy a Japanese system like with the 3DS.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: maxy on January 12, 2013, 02:44:57 AM
Media Create Sales: Week 1, 2013 (Dec 31 - Jan 06)

Top 50

spoiler (click to show/hide)
01./01. [3DS] Animal Crossing: New Leaf # <ETC> (Nintendo) {2012.11.08} (¥4.800) - 133.134 / 2.103.089 (-17%)
02./03. [3DS] New Super Mario Bros. 2 # <ACT> (Nintendo) {2012.07.28} (¥4.800) - 90.264 / 1.834.055 (+38%)
03./04. [3DS] Paper Mario: Sticker Star <ADV> (Nintendo) {2012.12.06} (¥4.800) - 68.262 / 470.394 (+16%)
04./07. [3DS] Inazuma Eleven Go 2: Chrono Stone - Neppuu / Raimei <RPG> (Level 5) {2012.12.13} (¥5.500) - 51.519 / 365.536 (+1%)
05./06. [WIU] New Super Mario Bros. U <ACT> (Nintendo) {2012.12.08} (¥5.985) - 50.319 / 419.710 (-12%)
06./02. [3DS] Fantasy Life <RPG> (Level 5) {2012.12.27} (¥5.800) - 42.291 / 159.361 (-64%)
07./09. [WIU] Nintendo Land <ETC> (Nintendo) {2012.12.08} (¥4.935) - 41.426 / 250.473 (-6%)
08./05. [PSP] One Piece: Romance Dawn - Bouken no Yoake # <RPG> (Bandai Namco Games) {2012.12.20} (¥5.980) - 40.137 / 264.739 (-30%)
09./12. [3DS] Magician's Quest: Magical Town <ETC> (Konami) {2012.12.20} (¥4.980) - 38.986 / 119.735 (+33%)
10./17. [3DS] Tousouchuu: Shijou Saikyou no Hunter-Tachi Kara Nigekire! <ACT> (Bandai Namco Games) {2012.07.05} (¥5.040) - 35.624 / 373.096 (+72%)
11./11. [3DS] Pokèmon Mystery Dungeon: Gates to Infinity <RPG> (Pokèmon Co.) {2012.11.23} (¥4.800) - 35.190 / 408.889 (+10%)
12./22. [3DS] Taiko no Tatsujin: Chibi Dragon to Fushigi na Orb <ACT> (Bandai Namco Games) {2012.07.12} (¥5.040) - 34.529 / 375.062
13./15. [3DS] Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate (Best Price!) <ACT> (Capcom) {2012.11.15} (¥3.800) - 32.007 / 155.601 (+25%)
14./20. [3DS] Mario Kart 7 <RCE> (Nintendo) {2011.12.01} (¥4.800) - 30.291 / 1.939.257 (+63%)
15./23. [3DS] Professor Layton Vs. Ace Attorney <ADV> (Level 5) {2012.11.29} (¥5.980) - 30.235 / 249.689
16./08. [PS3] Fist of the North Star: Ken's Rage 2 # <ACT> (Koei Tecmo) {2012.12.20} (¥8.190) - 29.180 / 194.157 (-40%)
17./13. [WII] Taiko no Tatsujin Wii: Super Deluxe Edition # <ACT> (Bandai Namco Games) {2012.11.29} (¥5.040) - 28.001 / 349.960 (+6%)
18./10. [PS3] Yakuza 5 # <ADV> (Sega) {2012.12.06} (¥8.800) - 26.631 / 544.855 (-31%)
19./25. [3DS] Style Savvy: Trendsetters <ETC> (Nintendo) {2012.09.27} (¥4.800) - 23.172 / 282.642
20./24. [3DS] Kobito Zukan: Kobito Kansatsu Set <ETC> (Nippon Columbia) {2012.07.26} (¥5.040) - 21.110 / 226.888 (+26%)
21./19. [PS3] Hot Shots Golf: World Invitational # <SPT> (Sony Computer Entertainment) {2012.11.22} (¥4.980)
22./28. [3DS] Super Mario 3D Land # <ACT> (Nintendo) {2011.11.03} (¥4.800)
23./18. [PS3] Call of Duty: Black Ops II - Dubbed Edition <ACT> (Square Enix) {2012.12.20} (¥7.980)
24./21. [3DS] Toriko: Gourmet Monsters! <RPG> (Bandai Namco Games) {2012.12.13} (¥5.800)
25./26. [NDS] Pokèmon Black 2 / White 2 <RPG> (Pokèmon Co.) {2012.06.23} (¥4.800)
26./31. [3DS] Aikatsu! Cinderella Lesson <SLG> (Bandai Namco Games) {2012.11.15} (¥5.040)
27./16. [PSP] AKB1/149: Love Election # <ADV> (Bandai Namco Games) {2012.12.20} (¥7.329)
28./30. [WII] Inazuma Eleven Go Strikers 2013 <SPT> (Level 5) {2012.12.20} (¥4.980)
29./27. [WIU] Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate # <ACT> (Capcom) {2012.12.08} (¥4.800)
30./14. [3DS] Inazuma Eleven 1-2-3!! Endou Mamoru Densetsu <RPG> (Level 5) {2012.12.27} (¥5.800)
31./00. [PSP] World Soccer Winning Eleven 2013 <SPT> (Konami) {2012.11.01} (¥3.980)
32./29. [WII] Mario Party 9 <ETC> (Nintendo) {2012.04.26} (¥5.800)
33./00. [PS3] World Soccer Winning Eleven 2013 <SPT> (Konami) {2012.10.04} (¥7.980)
34./00. [3DS] Ouchi Mainichi Tamagotchi <ETC> (Bandai Namco Games) {2012.11.22} (¥5.040)
35./00. [WII] New Super Mario Bros. Wii <ACT> (Nintendo) {2009.12.03} (¥5.800)
36./00. [PSP] Monster Hunter Freedom 3 (PSP the Best) <ACT> (Capcom) {2011.09.22} (¥2.990)
37./00. [WII] Super Smash Bros. Brawl <FTG> (Nintendo) {2008.01.31} (¥6.800)
38./00. [WII] Wii Sports Resort with Wii Remote Plus # <SPT> (Nintendo) {2010.11.11} (¥5.800)
39./00. [3DS] Nintendo Dogs + Cats: French Bulldog / Shiba / Toy Poodle & New Friends <ETC> (Nintendo) {2011.02.26} (¥4.800)
40./00. [WII] Kirby's Return to Dream Land <ACT> (Nintendo) {2011.10.27} (¥5.800)
41./00. [3DS] Dangerous Ji-San to 1000-nin no Otomodachi Yokoshima <ACT> (Bandai Namco Games) {2012.11.22} (¥5.040)
42./00. [PSV] Call of Duty: Black Ops - Declassified <ACT> (Square Enix) {2012.12.20} (¥6.090)
43./00. [3DS] Art Academy: Lessons for Everyone <HOB> (Nintendo) {2012.09.13} (¥3.800)
44./00. [3DS] Mario Tennis Open <SPT> (Nintendo) {2012.05.24} (¥4.800)
45./00. [PSP] Taiko no Tatsujin Portable DX <ACT> (Bandai Namco Games) {2011.07.14} (¥5.229)
46./00. [WII] Mario Kart Wii <RCE> (Nintendo) {2008.04.10} (¥5.800)
47./00. [3DS] World Soccer Winning Eleven 2013 <SPT> (Konami) {2012.11.01} (¥4.980)
48./00. [3DS] Nicola Kanshuu: Model Oshare Audition Platina <SLG> (Alchemist) {2012.11.08} (¥5.980)
49./00. [PSP] Jikkyou Powerful Pro Baseball 2012: Definitive Edition <SPT> (Konami) {2012.12.13} (¥5.250)
50./00. [PSP] Little Battlers eXperience W <RPG> (Level 5) {2012.10.18} (¥4.980)
00./00. [NDS] Animal Crossing: Wild World <ETC> (Nintendo) {2005.11.23} (¥4.800) - * / 5.271.000
[close]


Only one Vita game in top 50

Guess the game...
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on January 12, 2013, 05:16:05 AM
I dunno why but Im more excited about what Sony will show first party wise.

I also have a strange good feeling about the PS4.

Sure vita is a failure sales wise, but the hardware and initial games were amazing. Sony hit a homerun but the market is just not there anymore.

The home console market is still there and if they deliver such a piece of hardware like the vita with just as cool games they will have a winner, in Europe at least.

3 continent split of the market is pretty interesting.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: maxy on January 12, 2013, 07:01:35 AM
Yeah,Sony first party devs have been working on PS4 for quite a while,i think(PS3 software lineup,hints from PS3 devs,leaked roadmap).There should be some pretty amazing stuff there...

But overall I'm not sure what to think about PS4,


aegies posted this responding to EA-Sony question
Quote
I don't think that relationship is in very good shape. And there are other sony partnerships with publishers that have seen friction over the last six months.

I can understand them being a little bit hissy about Activision COD Vita shenanigans,but what's done is done,life goes on---console COD is way too huge to be ignored anyway.
Not sure what would be the ultimate goal of such behavior...Hardcore "Nintendo without kids" console?

Maybe it's "resources" related?Dunno

Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on January 10, 2013, 09:36:02 PM
Quote from: Huff on January 10, 2013, 09:15:01 PM
I'm finding it hard to see a scenario where MS doesn't crush next gen out of the ballpark.   

The only scenario is the one where next gen craps out for everyone, I think.  I wonder if Sony has the resources to battle MS properly next gen.  Them selling that building is another piece of evidence backing the rumours that their liquid assets are insufficient to keep the lights on these days, so to speak.

I don't see this discussed anywhere but what would be the ballpark about money needed to launch a PS3/360 like console these days?

R&D,manufacturing,distribution,first/third party investment,marketing,$400 console(negligible loss per console)

Assuming no insanity in the above things

$1 - 2 billion?
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: Smooth Groove on January 12, 2013, 07:33:03 AM
PS3 wasn't more powerful because of shitty GPU
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: maxy on January 12, 2013, 07:52:21 AM
Quote
I fully believe PS4 will be again more powerful and faster than Xbox 720 (just like this gen with PS3 and 360)

People working in the industry would disagree with you,both machines have their strengths and weakness but I guess people believe what they want to believe,marketing is all about numbers.I think you would be pretty surprised what people working for Sony think about PS3.

This reminds me about something posted long time ago(i think it was Anihawk),xbox/ps2 related

something like this,iirc
-at first there was CPU clock number printed on PS2 box
-xbox launches,PS2 clock number mysteriously disappears


Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: Eel O'Brian on January 12, 2013, 10:07:00 AM
unless ps4 is some sort of sony hail mary pass specs-wise, don't get your hopes up

it'll be powerful, a noticeable improvement over ps3 where everything works smoother/better and doesn't take a goddamned 1/2 year to load up, but i doubt it's gonna be anything particularly mind-blowing

i just don't think they have the money to dazzle anymore
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on January 12, 2013, 10:24:03 AM
Uhm Vita dazzled. They have the engineers to build great stuff. Maybe with a less unqique structure this time around.

People act like Sony is doomed already. I guess it all depends in where you look from but in Europe the ps3/xbox situation is reverse no?

Ww both sold equally the same numbers, with 360 selling more games, this doesnt mean there is less interest in ps3 though.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: archnemesis on January 12, 2013, 10:27:24 AM
Keep in mind that Oscar's numbers are from NA. It's not selling that much worse in Europe.

I think it's possible for Sony to bounce back next-gen if they can up with a system that's on the same power level as the 720 and cheaper. If they continue to offer free online multiplayer and the system is priced at a reasonable level then it will sell well. Even though mobile and PC gaming is becoming more popular there is still a huge demand for living room gaming with controllers that offer tactile feedback.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: Eel O'Brian on January 12, 2013, 10:30:54 AM
vita dazzled with off-the-shelf parts, and what wouldn't dazzle in comparison with 3ds

i don't think they're doomed, i just think they're gonna play ps4 way more conservatively than ps3, and everyone expecting some sort of skynet from them is gonna end up hella disappointed

you don't start selling off your buildings and other assets for the hell of it
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on January 12, 2013, 10:33:29 AM
Yeah i think so too. Its going to be a more focussed machine.

But freeing up so much assests makes sense in their situation. Having so much value sitting in property wont take em out of the slump.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: archnemesis on January 12, 2013, 11:20:49 AM
Do you have the latest global software tie-in numbers at hand? Does it include digital sales?
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: archnemesis on January 12, 2013, 11:28:51 AM
I started Googling for it then I decided I'd rather play a game. I'll make a mental note to comment on the numbers the next time I stumble upon them.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on January 12, 2013, 11:54:07 AM
So oscar you think this is it for sony? A failed gen and its over?
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: Steve Youngblood on January 12, 2013, 11:56:11 AM
I say we rename this thread "Ask Oscar."

Oscar, do you have any numbers for Funky Barn?
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on January 12, 2013, 12:21:43 PM
I feel that the days of third party exclusives for Handhelds will die after this set. Instead it'll just be ports of the iOS versions from here on out and if Nintendo releases a new system you'll get their incredibly mediocre games.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: headwalk on January 12, 2013, 12:31:55 PM
Quote from: Premium Lager on January 12, 2013, 11:54:07 AM
So oscar you think this is it for sony? A failed gen and its over?

i'm going with van cruncheon on this one. the console war is a regional conflict that is about to become engulfed in a world war of ecosystems. sony don't just need new hardware, they need allies.

microsoft will field a reasonable army (if in some bitterly distasteful way which attempts to press gang their open platform in to the proprietary war effort), nintendo will go the way of tiger electronics.

the vita was sony's naivety marching them in to battle in full parade dress, only to get shredded by entrenched machine gun fire.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: maxy on January 12, 2013, 12:33:08 PM
Quote from: Borys on January 12, 2013, 10:28:23 AM
Why would you ever listen to what maxy says, K. His allegiance is well known.

I cannot imagine Microsoft's blitzkrieg, though. It will consume Northern America.

This has nothing to do with my allegiance,believe it or not I would like everything to sell great because healthy industry is good for all of us.
As for Europe,Xbox brand has grown significantly,feel free to compare Xbox numbers  to 360 in Europe.

Little story about xbox in my country

First xbox was super niche machine,nobody except extreme hardcore cared about it,retail presence like 360 in Japan today,people thinking that xbox is not real/some MS joke.

360 launches,wtf is this,hmm HD graphics cool
Thing breaks like fuck,but piracy kicks in...shops selling hacked 360,reliable as Albanian batteries but free games  :drool
Sold only in specialized shops,games coming with like 2-3 week delay...expensive($80-$100)
PS3 launch---expensive like fuck,no piracy...yuck,xboxxx
PS3 drops in price,people buy it,retail presence growing rapidly,xbox stuff keeping pace only in very specialized shops
Thanks to 360 growing popularity  software keeps trickling in/becomes cheaper
Even despite rampant piracy people buy original 360 software

Fast forward few years ahead...for the first time ever Xbox is sold in the likes of Walmart(playstation stuff present there for like 10 years)
Shops have huge library of new and used(for the first time ever) software/new software down to $70,discounts.

Playstation still has bigger presence in retail,about 50% more to 1:1 depending on the shop but 360 stuff is there and not tucked away in the corner.

All that with

-no official MS support
-no official XBL(London hotels lol)
-absolute zero marketing

Sony(playstation) has official presence here and they promote their stuff quite often.

I don't think you should be concerned what MS does in US,Borys.Also damn you for making me write all this stuff >:(

They did lots of mistakes this gen and look were they are right now.Imagine if they did everything right...

Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on January 12, 2013, 12:53:15 PM
I think a lot of people dont understand that the conquer the livingroom approach wont work in europe simply cause europe doesnt have things like netflix, hulu and everything else due to the fact its a copyright jungle.

Yes in the uk and ireland there is netflix now, and its crap, i had it and there really is nothing on it and its updated once every month or two. Netflix numbers in europe = 1 million

How could ms change this? It cant.

The all media approach of ms simply wont matter in 80% of the european market. Unless somehow they manage to get the rights to all movies and sport. Which they cant cause SKY has the premier league and in every country its a different corp that has rights to football.

This media approach will only be viable in the us/uk. In Europe people pirate movies or buy br/dvd still, there are no good alternatives.

Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on January 12, 2013, 01:12:02 PM
Yes yes bring on the cultural expert jokes
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on January 12, 2013, 01:17:39 PM
Ive made long posts before!  :maf
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: Smooth Groove on January 12, 2013, 01:22:09 PM
Don't be a hypebeast, Borys

Sony specs are always bs
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Great Rumbler on January 12, 2013, 03:31:08 PM
Quote from: Steve Youngblood on January 12, 2013, 11:56:11 AM
I say we rename this thread "Ask Oscar."

This is the best you're going to get.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Tasty on January 12, 2013, 03:33:25 PM
:uguu
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Himu on January 12, 2013, 03:40:04 PM
Ms will conquer Europe with games and gimmicks Lager.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Steve Youngblood on January 12, 2013, 03:41:11 PM
Quote from: Great Rumbler on January 12, 2013, 03:31:08 PM
Quote from: Steve Youngblood on January 12, 2013, 11:56:11 AM
I say we rename this thread "Ask Oscar."

This is the best you're going to get.

I like it! Now I just need those Funky Barn numbers.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: Purple Filth on January 12, 2013, 03:52:12 PM
Love the new title  :lol
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Positive Touch on January 12, 2013, 03:53:56 PM
if sony comes conservative with ps4 then they will die. vita was a conservative handheld and it got slaughtered at the hands smartphones that are essential for consumers and can do a hell of a lot more than play games. if ms doesnt ass it up and puts out a box that can successfully stream internet media + the media i already own AND can interact with my smartphone then they will crush the competition.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on January 12, 2013, 04:02:07 PM
Microsoft seems to have their poop in a group better than Sony.  Sony is going to have to significantly overhaul their online to get on par with Microsoft.  Nintendo is heading towards Gamecubeland.  The Wii U could be their last console ever and just go handheld only after the Wii U.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Positive Touch on January 12, 2013, 06:42:30 PM
i sure dont think wiiu will be nintendo's last console; they can invest some of their megabux into serious r&d and try to come out with a better console a few years down the line. alternatively if they really hit bad times i dont think it'd be that hard for them to find a way to market an inexpensive toy that does shit-all except deliver the latest nintendo franchises to millions of eager children around the world.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: headwalk on January 12, 2013, 07:47:08 PM
Quote from: Positive Touch on January 12, 2013, 06:42:30 PM
i sure dont think wiiu will be nintendo's last console; they can invest some of their megabux into serious r&d and try to come out with a better console a few years down the line. alternatively if they really hit bad times i dont think it'd be that hard for them to find a way to market an inexpensive toy that does shit-all except deliver the latest nintendo franchises to millions of eager children around the world.

i don't know what you think the result of that R&D could be. an ecosystem to compete with apple/google? hardware to compete with intel/nvidia?

it's now all nebulous overlords and off the shelf hardware. the gamecube was the swan-song of custom silicon wizardry in game consoles, the ps3 was its funeral.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Himu on January 12, 2013, 07:53:20 PM
Can't wait for Sony to leave the gaming arena and for Samsung to buy all of their developers and make a console.
Title: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Huff on January 12, 2013, 08:26:47 PM
MS One console future :bow2
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on January 12, 2013, 08:32:39 PM
Quote from: Positive Touch on January 12, 2013, 06:42:30 PM
i sure dont think wiiu will be nintendo's last console; they can invest some of their megabux into serious r&d and try to come out with a better console a few years down the line. alternatively if they really hit bad times i dont think it'd be that hard for them to find a way to market an inexpensive toy that does shit-all except deliver the latest nintendo franchises to millions of eager children around the world.
Extremely custom silicon would make BC problematic and Nintendo is kinda in love with Gamecube stuff.Just look at WiiU,Gamecube still lives there.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Purple Filth on January 12, 2013, 08:34:48 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on January 12, 2013, 06:36:03 PM
Quote from: Premium Lager on January 12, 2013, 11:54:07 AM
So oscar you think this is it for sony? A failed gen and its over?

I think what happens to Sony was going to happen in most permutations of success or failure of their gaming business.  They're not in financial trouble because of PS3 or Vita or anything like that.  They're a company in trouble because of major failings in other areas both within the company and within the domestic economy. 

Gamers seem to think somewhat naively that Sony runs around the Playstation business, when it's really no more or less important than Ericsson or Sony Insurance.

I firmly believe that either Panasonic or Sony aren't going to survive in their existing forms.  One will make it, the other won't.  I think Kaz Hirai is so far showing to be unwilling to do what needs to be done to make the company stable again, so I'm not confident Sony will be the survivor.

What do you think it is though since one of the issues is supposedly being dealt with (TVs with that gaping wound)?

Just curious
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on January 12, 2013, 08:46:57 PM
Sony has been trying to restructure for quite a while,see Stinger.

I guess there is just too much of internal resistance/people on top are very reluctant to do something drastic...
 :-\
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Tasty on January 12, 2013, 10:13:09 PM
They need to start making some Nexus phones, ditch Vaio for Chromebooks, and redouble down on their Google TV efforts. Only then can Sony truly achieve salvation.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Eel O'Brian on January 12, 2013, 11:28:21 PM
Quote from: Andrex on January 12, 2013, 10:13:09 PM
They need to start making some Nexus phones, ditch Vaio for Chromebooks, and redouble down on their Google TV efforts. Only then can Sony truly achieve salvation.

"How to Go Out of Business"
by
Andrex
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: MCD on January 12, 2013, 11:52:42 PM
:lol

Oscar, Japanese companies must not drop TVs. I am using a Sammy TV but I'd hate for the market to be just Korea and Chinese products.

Sony might strike back with their bet with Crystal LCDs so we will see.

Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Steve Contra on January 12, 2013, 11:54:18 PM
Quote from: MCD on January 12, 2013, 11:52:42 PM
Sony might strike back with their bet with Crystal LCDs so we will see.
No,they won't.  If they keep TVs, they'll be out of business. 
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: MCD on January 12, 2013, 11:55:36 PM
So you are fine with just LG and Samsung dominating?
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Steve Contra on January 12, 2013, 11:57:01 PM
Quote from: MCD on January 12, 2013, 11:55:36 PM
So you are fine with just LG and Samsung dominating?
That's going to happen anyway. Not really worth talking about at this point.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Tasty on January 13, 2013, 12:00:16 AM
Quote from: Eel O'Brian on January 12, 2013, 11:28:21 PM
Quote from: Andrex on January 12, 2013, 10:13:09 PM
They need to start making some Nexus phones, ditch Vaio for Chromebooks, and redouble down on their Google TV efforts. Only then can Sony truly achieve salvation.

"How to Go Out of Business"
by
Andrex

Hey, they'd last longer than they're going to otherwise, and at least this way we'd get some worthwhile gadgets from them before that happens.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: cool breeze on January 13, 2013, 12:13:20 AM
I don't know how popular sony's other divisions are.  That xperia z sony recently announced is probably the nicest looking android phone, or phone period.  Although it's one of those large phones with a 5 inch screen, and it's an android phone, so I doubt I'd ever get one.

Quote from: MCD on January 12, 2013, 11:52:42 PM
Sony might strike back with their bet with Crystal LCDs so we will see.

Crystal LCD sounds like another one of Sony's pet projects that'll remain a pet project, niche product, or years away from a mass consumer appeal. 

I saw one of those small ~12 inch OLED displays at a sony stores years ago.  An OLED TV still hasn't been released.  The tech has been used in the personal viewer/visor thing.  Can't imagine either of those helping Sony much.

back to games, are any of sony's franchises popular? years ago I thought: god of war and gran turismo.  doesn't feel like it anymore.  meanwhile, nintendo and microsoft can dump a pokemon and halo and make bank. 
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: MCD on January 13, 2013, 12:14:47 AM
I'd have bought a Panasonic Plasma but it was a bit costy before plus I didn't want to risk it with any potential burn in and the like. Though I wish I had bought one because they are ending the development of Plasmas forever. Sad times.

So Samsung and Sharp were my only options and I picked Samsung because as you said, it was cheaper and thinner to boot. Never went with Sony because expensive as fuck with nothing special about their TVs.

And I am also an Xfag so...

As for Korean dominating, well I don't have any problem but we always need competition to innovate.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on January 13, 2013, 12:41:18 AM
hmm
Quote
Oscar, Japanese companies must not drop TVs. I am using a Sammy TV but I'd hate for the market to be just Korea and Chinese products.
Quote
Never went with Sony because expensive as fuck with nothing special about their TVs.

Quote
As for Korean dominating, well I don't have any problem but we always need competition to innovate.

sorry

 :P
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: MCD on January 13, 2013, 01:40:42 AM
maxy

you are like me, please understand
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on January 13, 2013, 08:44:13 AM
Dunno,I have plenty of Sony stuff around...mostly covered in heavy layers of dust though
What goes around in console business stays in console business.

/another maxy anecdotal post

Will try to print my own observations to whole of the EU,fell free to correct me Europeans.

Sony TV downfall started like 10 years ago.Bunch of new TV brands appeared,cheap and they all came with like 3 year warranty(Europe stuff).So people were hmm,who cares if it's not some recognizable brand,if it breaks after 3 years I will just buy another one...I only watch news anyway

Fast forward to 2012,big retailers still have Sony TV stuff in electronics area,but it's like 4-5 TVs grouped in one place,surrounded literally by 100 other non Sony TVs.
Guess where the people go...

Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on January 13, 2013, 08:46:57 AM
Sony wanted to be a premium brand but it didnt offer anything premium over Samsung hdtvs.

Maybe in some niche way that no one cared about.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on January 13, 2013, 09:04:37 AM
Quote from: Borys on January 13, 2013, 08:55:45 AM
maxy, can you hint use where are you from? Russia? Southern America?

hahaha
I mentioned it a few years ago.

Croatia,hello neighbor.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on January 13, 2013, 09:07:53 AM
 :-*
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: Don Flamenco on January 13, 2013, 09:17:24 AM
Quote from: AdmiralViscen on January 11, 2013, 09:47:28 PM
Analysis: Why the PS3 77m report is likely false. #1
IDC a research firm has recently reported that the PS3 has apparently overtaken the Xbox 360, 77m to 76m, widely discussed in this thread. Myself and others that follow sales have noticed and argued why it's very unlikely this is the case and that IDC are either lying or mistaken (I'm thinking the latter which I'll get to shortly.) Either way it's no surprise from the company that gave us this little gem. This is doing the rounds on most of the sites without anyone bothering to do much research, and people here are using it in debates.


First off I'll go back to the last solid PS3 shipment number we got before Sony merged PS2 and PS3 quarterly shipments. This would be a LTD of 63.9m as of March 31st, the end of Sony's FY. That Q the PS3 was down 0.2m YOY.

The following Q's looked like this.

Q2 Apr/June: 2.8m PS2 + PS3
Q3 July/Sep: 3.5m PS2 + PS3

In Q2 2011 the PS3 shipped 1.8m, it's noted in the financials that the PS3 was down this Q but it's unclear whether they mean in terms of Revenue or Units. What we do know is that the PS3 was down around 160,000 units in the US (NPD) and up in Japan 50,000 units. So between the two, down 110,000 units. No other data for Europe or around the world.

In Q3 we know for Sure PS3 was down, as it shipped 3.7m by itself in 2011, in Q3 this year it sold 3.5m with the PS2 included as well. It was down in the US by 260,000 units and down in Japan 275,000 units. So those two regions combined 525,000. Again no data for Europe or elsewhere. In the same period last year the PS2 shipped 1.2 million.

By end of September the sheer maximum amount of PS3's there could be on shelves was 70.2 million, that is without Sony shipping any PS2 at all, the likelyhood of that is low.

It's debatable what PS3 is truly at end of September, anywhere from 63.9 - 70.2.

I imagine (feel free to debate this!) Q2 broke down into around 1.8m PS3 (flat) and 1m PS2 (down 400k) and Q3 being 2.8m PS3 (down 900k) and PS2 700k (down 500k).

This would put PS3 at about 68.5m. It may be higher, it may be lower It's a good average for what we've got to work with though.

Fast forward to today and we apparently have 77 million PS3's. For comparison, last Q4 Sony shipped 6.5m PS3's. Even if we go off that highest figure 70.2, that means they would have had to have shipped 6.8m this Q. Of course it wasn't at 70.2, more likely the 68.5 I arrived at. So make that 8.5m Sony would have had to have shipped this Q to reach 77 mill.

This makes no sense given;

A) They're down in the US this Q around 550,000 units, and down in Japan around 125,000 units. So 675,000 combined.
B) Reaching 77m means PS3 just had it's best ever year shipping 15 million! This is up 700k on its previous best, despite being down Q1,Q3 (probably Q2 given the sales data we have) and down in the US this year over 1.14m and down in Japan over 330,000k.
C) Sony were not even forecasting 15m shipped. They expected around 13m PS3, and 16m PS2 + PS3 combined for their FY (ends march, Q1 will likely be similar to this years, certainly not up!)

We don't have any data for Europe, the strongest market for Sony. This doesn't automatically mean it's up or even flat there though. the US is 360's strongest market and that's dropped 25% there. Simply having 'PS3 is a beast in Europe' as your argument won't do when you have no numbers or evidence to back it up.

Lastly we have the 70m figure from Sony at the start of Nov, which means Sony would have had to have shipped 7m between Nov-Dec. This is more than what they've done any other Q in PS3 history despite having a month shaved off (where retailers are buying in prep of the holiday.)

My thoughts on how IDC arrived at these numbers. Well, they either guessed. Or they have seen Sony's financials, which state PS3 + PS2 shipped around 6.8m combined and added that onto the previous combined figure of 70.2m.

Is there a way the 77m figure is true? Sure, Sony shipped 8.5m during this Q. For that to happen they would have had to have stuffed the channels (big time).

MS did this last holiday you say? Well, 360 had it's best ever year in actual sell through last year in the US. In its biggest market it was actually very slightly up during the holiday. (2011) All evidence we have for PS3 this year does not suggest the same. There are other arguments as to how that figure they shipped isn't as abnormal as many think.



No offense OP, but you seem to get a little too passionate about PS3 competing against 360. I mean, the figures not adding up was already pointed out by a number of posters in the original thread. Most of us said it would be wise to just wait for the official shipment figures since it seemed a little early for the PS3 to be overtaking the 360.

However, it's going to happen eventually. It's best you accept it sooner rather than later. More than likely, PS3 will end up passing the Wii at some stage too within the next few years. It's an inevitability. Maybe you dislike this fact, but maybe you can take some solace in the fact that it's happening at a point that it doesn't really affect the generation.

Wii already pretty much spanked both the 360 and PS3 when it mattered most. And 360 was very competitive and gained a lot of mindshare and performed very well. Even if the PS3 eventually ends up "number one", it'll happen when it has no bearing on the outcome of this generation. Is that not enough for you?
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Phoenix Dark on January 13, 2013, 09:42:34 AM
If you guys were made CEO of Nintendo for 2013, what would you do? Within reason of course - licensing IPs for smartphone games isn't going to happen, for instance.

I think the WiiU could have a turn around but the problem is that its window is limited by tech. Still, it has an opportunity to reach a solid user base and build for a profitable short term future. But that will require a software output Nintendo hasn't really done on a console in a long time.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Momo on January 13, 2013, 09:53:21 AM
Make a new F-Zero then dont care everyone do whatever you want - Gaben
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on January 13, 2013, 10:07:08 AM
Croatia is beautiful and you got some good footballers :fbm
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Don Flamenco on January 13, 2013, 10:16:09 AM
I'd sell all the IPs off, half to Sony, half to MS, and watch the fanbases split and intensify the console wars.  So what, you say, whoever gets Mario wins. In a surprise twist, I would sell the rights to make Mario platformers (2D and 3D) to...a popular iPhone dev of some sort.  All the other IPs are split...including the Mario sports games, Party, etc.  I'd put a stipulation in each contract stating that only Capcom may develop a Smash Bros game and can draw on all of Nintendo's IPs whenever they want to make Smash Bros games.  The Smash Bros games have to be multiplatform on PC, Sony, and MS consoles. 

basically, I'd make a bunch of money and make the industry a lot more interesting.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on January 13, 2013, 10:32:52 AM
Quote from: MyNameIsMethodis on January 13, 2013, 10:07:08 AM
Croatia is beautiful and you got some good footballers :fbm

I think that's because kids learn to love football as soon as they can walk here/1000000x intensified when they start education.

Internet stuff is "kinda" eating into that these days though :(
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on January 13, 2013, 10:41:55 AM
are there attractive croatia girls ive never really noticed
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on January 13, 2013, 10:44:26 AM
another silly question

of course they are :)
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on January 13, 2013, 10:48:15 AM
i imagine theyd be like dark skinned german girls :drool
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on January 13, 2013, 11:26:33 AM
Forgive him Maxy he is a Man City supporter.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: tiesto on January 13, 2013, 11:31:39 AM
Quote from: maxy on January 13, 2013, 09:04:37 AM
Quote from: Borys on January 13, 2013, 08:55:45 AM
maxy, can you hint use where are you from? Russia? Southern America?

hahaha
I mentioned it a few years ago.

Croatia,hello neighbor.

Can you hook me up with some Croatian women?  8)
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on January 13, 2013, 11:37:05 AM
Quote from: Premium Lager on January 13, 2013, 11:26:33 AM
Forgive him Maxy he is a Man City supporter.

we don't have any croats on our team  :'( :'(
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on January 13, 2013, 11:49:56 AM
Quote from: tiesto on January 13, 2013, 11:31:39 AM
Quote from: maxy on January 13, 2013, 09:04:37 AM
Quote from: Borys on January 13, 2013, 08:55:45 AM
maxy, can you hint use where are you from? Russia? Southern America?

hahaha
I mentioned it a few years ago.

Croatia,hello neighbor.

Can you hook me up with some Croatian women?  8)
No
I keep them for myself,sorry
  :P
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Flannel Boy on January 13, 2013, 12:05:06 PM
Quote from: MyNameIsMethodis on January 13, 2013, 10:41:55 AM
are there attractive croatia girls ive never really noticed
Of course there are.
spoiler (click to show/hide)
(http://i1152.photobucket.com/albums/p497/corape1/Euro2012%20Babes/best-croatian-girls-euro08_07.jpg)
(http://euro2012girls.com/pictures/croatian-girl-euro-2012_04-530x544.jpg)
(http://s1.hubimg.com/u/6758560_f520.jpg)
(http://thebox.vn/Uploaded/CTV1/2012_06_20/cogai1.jpg)
(http://i.huffpost.com/gen/795817/thumbs/o-CROATIA_FEMALE_SOCCER_COACH-570.jpg)
(http://thechive.files.wordpress.com/2012/08/antonija-misura-11.jpg?)
(http://www.javno.com/slike/slike_3/r1/g2007/m06/x104142320909541237_1.jpg)
[close]

Time to eat Cro.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on January 13, 2013, 12:08:47 PM
:bow dark skinned germans
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on January 13, 2013, 12:09:13 PM
:bow Zagreb :bow2
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: Purple Filth on January 13, 2013, 12:24:18 PM
Thanks for the answer Oscar and i really can't see them leaving tvs tbh

Quote from: Don Flamenco on January 13, 2013, 09:17:24 AM
Quote from: AdmiralViscen on January 11, 2013, 09:47:28 PM
Analysis: Why the PS3 77m report is likely false. #1
IDC a research firm has recently reported that the PS3 has apparently overtaken the Xbox 360, 77m to 76m, widely discussed in this thread. Myself and others that follow sales have noticed and argued why it's very unlikely this is the case and that IDC are either lying or mistaken (I'm thinking the latter which I'll get to shortly.) Either way it's no surprise from the company that gave us this little gem. This is doing the rounds on most of the sites without anyone bothering to do much research, and people here are using it in debates.


First off I'll go back to the last solid PS3 shipment number we got before Sony merged PS2 and PS3 quarterly shipments. This would be a LTD of 63.9m as of March 31st, the end of Sony's FY. That Q the PS3 was down 0.2m YOY.

The following Q's looked like this.

Q2 Apr/June: 2.8m PS2 + PS3
Q3 July/Sep: 3.5m PS2 + PS3

In Q2 2011 the PS3 shipped 1.8m, it's noted in the financials that the PS3 was down this Q but it's unclear whether they mean in terms of Revenue or Units. What we do know is that the PS3 was down around 160,000 units in the US (NPD) and up in Japan 50,000 units. So between the two, down 110,000 units. No other data for Europe or around the world.

In Q3 we know for Sure PS3 was down, as it shipped 3.7m by itself in 2011, in Q3 this year it sold 3.5m with the PS2 included as well. It was down in the US by 260,000 units and down in Japan 275,000 units. So those two regions combined 525,000. Again no data for Europe or elsewhere. In the same period last year the PS2 shipped 1.2 million.

By end of September the sheer maximum amount of PS3's there could be on shelves was 70.2 million, that is without Sony shipping any PS2 at all, the likelyhood of that is low.

It's debatable what PS3 is truly at end of September, anywhere from 63.9 - 70.2.

I imagine (feel free to debate this!) Q2 broke down into around 1.8m PS3 (flat) and 1m PS2 (down 400k) and Q3 being 2.8m PS3 (down 900k) and PS2 700k (down 500k).

This would put PS3 at about 68.5m. It may be higher, it may be lower It's a good average for what we've got to work with though.

Fast forward to today and we apparently have 77 million PS3's. For comparison, last Q4 Sony shipped 6.5m PS3's. Even if we go off that highest figure 70.2, that means they would have had to have shipped 6.8m this Q. Of course it wasn't at 70.2, more likely the 68.5 I arrived at. So make that 8.5m Sony would have had to have shipped this Q to reach 77 mill.

This makes no sense given;

A) They're down in the US this Q around 550,000 units, and down in Japan around 125,000 units. So 675,000 combined.
B) Reaching 77m means PS3 just had it's best ever year shipping 15 million! This is up 700k on its previous best, despite being down Q1,Q3 (probably Q2 given the sales data we have) and down in the US this year over 1.14m and down in Japan over 330,000k.
C) Sony were not even forecasting 15m shipped. They expected around 13m PS3, and 16m PS2 + PS3 combined for their FY (ends march, Q1 will likely be similar to this years, certainly not up!)

We don't have any data for Europe, the strongest market for Sony. This doesn't automatically mean it's up or even flat there though. the US is 360's strongest market and that's dropped 25% there. Simply having 'PS3 is a beast in Europe' as your argument won't do when you have no numbers or evidence to back it up.

Lastly we have the 70m figure from Sony at the start of Nov, which means Sony would have had to have shipped 7m between Nov-Dec. This is more than what they've done any other Q in PS3 history despite having a month shaved off (where retailers are buying in prep of the holiday.)

My thoughts on how IDC arrived at these numbers. Well, they either guessed. Or they have seen Sony's financials, which state PS3 + PS2 shipped around 6.8m combined and added that onto the previous combined figure of 70.2m.

Is there a way the 77m figure is true? Sure, Sony shipped 8.5m during this Q. For that to happen they would have had to have stuffed the channels (big time).

MS did this last holiday you say? Well, 360 had it's best ever year in actual sell through last year in the US. In its biggest market it was actually very slightly up during the holiday. (2011) All evidence we have for PS3 this year does not suggest the same. There are other arguments as to how that figure they shipped isn't as abnormal as many think.



No offense OP, but you seem to get a little too passionate about PS3 competing against 360. I mean, the figures not adding up was already pointed out by a number of posters in the original thread. Most of us said it would be wise to just wait for the official shipment figures since it seemed a little early for the PS3 to be overtaking the 360.

However, it's going to happen eventually. It's best you accept it sooner rather than later. More than likely, PS3 will end up passing the Wii at some stage too within the next few years. It's an inevitability. Maybe you dislike this fact, but maybe you can take some solace in the fact that it's happening at a point that it doesn't really affect the generation.

Wii already pretty much spanked both the 360 and PS3 when it mattered most. And 360 was very competitive and gained a lot of mindshare and performed very well. Even if the PS3 eventually ends up "number one", it'll happen when it has no bearing on the outcome of this generation. Is that not enough for you?


i assume this response is a verbatim post from GAF also  :lol


and i'm liking this thread derail right now
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Great Rumbler on January 13, 2013, 12:26:44 PM
Quote from: Phoenix Dark on January 13, 2013, 09:42:34 AM
If you guys were made CEO of Nintendo for 2013, what would you do?

Make some high-quality games that people are actually interested in? It's not that hard. Or maybe is it, I don't know.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on January 13, 2013, 12:33:19 PM
Quote from: Phoenix Dark on January 13, 2013, 09:42:34 AM
If you guys were made CEO of Nintendo for 2013, what would you do?

Strip all of the IPs and sell them to the highest bidder, funnel all of the proceeds to my bank account, and retire.  Watch Nintard manchildren cry as half assed Mario titles flood the marketplace.  Ensure that IP sales include lucrative percentages to my bank accounts so that way when games like the Super Mario Bros. hit iOS and sells a shitload, I can continue to get rich.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: headwalk on January 13, 2013, 12:47:36 PM
Quote from: Phoenix Dark on January 13, 2013, 09:42:34 AM
If you guys were made CEO of Nintendo for 2013, what would you do? Within reason of course - licensing IPs for smartphone games isn't going to happen, for instance.

I think the WiiU could have a turn around but the problem is that its window is limited by tech. Still, it has an opportunity to reach a solid user base and build for a profitable short term future. But that will require a software output Nintendo hasn't really done on a console in a long time.

i'd make some ultra low powered piece of shit out of a rasberry pi or something coupled with some nostalgia baiting "an old friend is coming back" marketing campaign, strip all complex operating infrastructure, call it the (prefix) nintendo entertainment system and sell it for $90 with a 500% margin. then sack everyone above minimum wage and get some postgrads to shit out 2D incarnations of nintendo IPs for the rest of time.

essentially what they're doing now, but with the fat trimmed.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on January 13, 2013, 12:52:10 PM
Quote from: headwalk on January 13, 2013, 12:47:36 PM
Quote from: Phoenix Dark on January 13, 2013, 09:42:34 AM
If you guys were made CEO of Nintendo for 2013, what would you do? Within reason of course - licensing IPs for smartphone games isn't going to happen, for instance.

I think the WiiU could have a turn around but the problem is that its window is limited by tech. Still, it has an opportunity to reach a solid user base and build for a profitable short term future. But that will require a software output Nintendo hasn't really done on a console in a long time.

i'd make some ultra low powered piece of shit out of a rasberry pi or something coupled with some nostalgia baiting "an old friend is coming back" marketing campaign, call it the (prefix) nintendo entertainment system and sell it for $90 with a 500% margin. then sack everyone above minimum wage and get some postgrads to shit out 2D incarnations of nintendo IPs for the rest of time.

essentially what they're doing now, but with the fat trimmed.

Yep, release a NES controller with a raspberry pi equivalent in it that can be plugged into the TV, and watch Nintards and hipsters shit themselves with excitement.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on January 13, 2013, 05:51:58 PM
Sales stuff

Quote
http://www.computerandvideogames.com/386207/wii-u-game-sales-far-behind-launch-levels-for-gamecube-and-wii/

Quote
Wii U software sales are "struggling a bit" in the US, according to Cowen & Company analyst Doug Creutz.

Reacting to last night's release of NPD sales data for the US market in December, Cowen said in a research note: "Software sales for the Wii U remained well behind launch levels for the original Wii and GameCube in December.
"Totals for the November-December period were -43% lower than software sales for the Wii and -50% lower than those for the GameCube."
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Mr. Gundam on January 13, 2013, 05:55:27 PM
WIIUHASNOGAMES MEMEHAHAHAHARITE
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Third on January 13, 2013, 06:26:05 PM
Quote from: maxy on January 13, 2013, 05:51:58 PM
Sales stuff

Quote
http://www.computerandvideogames.com/386207/wii-u-game-sales-far-behind-launch-levels-for-gamecube-and-wii/

Quote
Wii U software sales are "struggling a bit" in the US, according to Cowen & Company analyst Doug Creutz.

Reacting to last night's release of NPD sales data for the US market in December, Cowen said in a research note: "Software sales for the Wii U remained well behind launch levels for the original Wii and GameCube in December.
"Totals for the November-December period were -43% lower than software sales for the Wii and -50% lower than those for the GameCube."

It;s just getting worse and worse  :lol
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on January 13, 2013, 08:00:13 PM
woops wrong therad :)
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on January 14, 2013, 04:24:56 AM
I think you can safely remove probably,at least for the foreseeable future.$60 games and downloads don't quite mix yet.Not sure if they will ever,asking people to shell out $60 for something that has "zero resale value" is much different than asking $5-$20.

Well,as long as the retail lives.

Just to clarify,what I'm trying to say is that those bottom priced digital games would really need to sell a lot(units) *to make up for $60 games retail revenue downfall.I think $60 digital games sales are pretty negligible at this point.

*PR dream
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on January 14, 2013, 06:49:41 AM
Unless were talking COD/WoW/Diablo here.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: archnemesis on January 14, 2013, 08:20:04 AM
I wouldn't be surprised if cheaper games like Journey did alright as digital downloads.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: archnemesis on January 14, 2013, 09:17:27 AM
Of course. The digital sales for retail titles on home consoles must be close to zero.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Father_Brain on January 15, 2013, 07:43:51 PM
Epic Mickey 2: Four times as many platforms as EM1, 1/4 the sales. (http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/envelope/cotown/la-et-ct-disney-infinity-20130115,0,3494101.story)  :lol
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Tasty on January 15, 2013, 08:03:17 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on January 15, 2013, 07:56:06 PM
Yeah, Epic Mickey 2 is a disaster in every sense of the word.  The 3DS version'll probably leg out fine, since I doubt it cost Disney much to commission Dreamrift, but the rest?  Yikes.

It's a shame the 3DS game completely wastes the fantastic pixel art and name legacy. SMH Dreamrift.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Tasty on January 15, 2013, 08:15:43 PM
I never played the Illusion games but I did (and still do) LOVE Disney's Magical Quest. It's incredibly short, but the music and graphics were top-tier magical stuff, and the three costume mechanics were all equally fun to use.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Tasty on January 15, 2013, 08:19:18 PM
It's also not that great of a platformer because of the floaty jumping, but I still think it's a really fun game.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: tiesto on January 15, 2013, 09:29:47 PM
I liked this thread when Malek was posting Croatian girls pics :drool
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Tasty on January 15, 2013, 09:54:49 PM
According to Stump, Nirolak, and John Harker, that number is way too low. According to Stump the Wii version of EM2 sold more than 270k on its own.

Oscar san please shine some light on us.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: pilonv1 on January 15, 2013, 10:13:55 PM
Quote from: Andrex on January 15, 2013, 09:54:49 PM
According to Stump, Nirolak, and John Harker, that number is way too low. According to Stump the Wii version of EM2 sold more than 270k on its own.

Oscar san please shine some light on us.

Sorry he's under NDA like the rest of us
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Tasty on January 15, 2013, 10:18:09 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on January 15, 2013, 10:11:54 PM
Yeah, the number in the article doesn't match what I've got either.  It's a disaster but it's not that bad.

Ah, figured.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on January 16, 2013, 01:06:07 AM
http://www.chart-track.co.uk/index.jsp?c=p/software/uk/latest/index_test.jsp&ct=110015

Anarchy Reigns...about 4.5k
WiiU...less than 100k sold,ltd of course

numbers from Alien Zombi combo btw
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Third on January 16, 2013, 08:07:34 AM
New media create:

3DS 92,661
PS3 22,991
Wii U 20,715
PSP 17,069
Vita 11,088
Wii 1,873
Xbox 360 921

RIP WiiU
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on January 16, 2013, 08:20:30 AM
Wii U  :lol ITS OVER.

I knew PS3 would overtake it.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on January 16, 2013, 08:22:30 AM
Quote
Wii U Are Already Dead.


From GAF  :lol
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Don Flamenco on January 16, 2013, 08:49:16 AM
if vita can't exist, then WiiU can't exist.  it's only fair.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: mjemirzian on January 16, 2013, 09:13:38 AM
Vita will revive into the next PSP, I swear.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Joe Molotov on January 16, 2013, 09:25:28 AM
How long before Wii U drops below Vita sales?
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Don Flamenco on January 16, 2013, 09:30:06 AM
Soul Sacrifice might give it a temporary boost over WiiU. 
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on January 16, 2013, 10:17:31 AM
thats gonna be awesome
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Mupepe on January 16, 2013, 10:22:59 AM
Quote from: Flannel Boy on January 13, 2013, 12:05:06 PM
Quote from: MyNameIsMethodis on January 13, 2013, 10:41:55 AM
are there attractive croatia girls ive never really noticed
Of course there are.
(http://thebox.vn/Uploaded/CTV1/2012_06_20/cogai1.jpg)
Time to eat Cro.
Come on.  Please tell me there's a name to go with this pic
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Tasty on January 16, 2013, 10:28:54 AM
Quote from: Premium Lager on January 16, 2013, 08:20:30 AM
Wii U  :lol ITS OVER.

Might be a little early to be saying this. Maybe.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on January 16, 2013, 10:35:43 AM
Quote from: Andrex on January 16, 2013, 10:28:54 AM
Quote from: Premium Lager on January 16, 2013, 08:20:30 AM
Wii U  :lol ITS OVER.

Might be a little early to be saying this. Maybe.

(http://i2.minus.com/iXYUgcNW1sD6t.png)
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Tasty on January 16, 2013, 10:48:16 AM
Quote from: Premium Lager on January 16, 2013, 10:35:43 AM
Quote from: Andrex on January 16, 2013, 10:28:54 AM
Quote from: Premium Lager on January 16, 2013, 08:20:30 AM
Wii U  :lol ITS OVER.

Might be a little early to be saying this. Maybe.

(http://i2.minus.com/iXYUgcNW1sD6t.png)

So the PS3 died within the first two months? That's new to me. I was under the impression it eventually wound up having a healthy life in Japan. Shows what I know.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on January 16, 2013, 10:59:01 AM
It's gonna be more GCN/N64 then PS3.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on January 16, 2013, 11:02:21 AM
Seems like Pachter was right,Nintendo= irrelevant
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Mr. Gundam on January 16, 2013, 11:13:36 AM
Quote from: Exterminieren;46506428
It's becoming abundantly clear that Nintendo's policy of not revealing future in production titles, no matter how extensive it is, is a complete failure.

 8)
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on January 16, 2013, 11:16:02 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__n5Bgxx-68


Gaming industry = preacher
Audience = gaming population
Nintendo= well,you know who
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Brehvolution on January 16, 2013, 11:20:14 AM
The Wii U needs more wara wara
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Tasty on January 16, 2013, 11:24:22 AM
Quote from: Premium Lager on January 16, 2013, 10:59:01 AM
It's gonna be more GCN/N64 then PS3.

Thanks for the future insight, oh diviner of spirits.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: bork on January 16, 2013, 11:34:13 AM
Does anyone have worldwide sales numbers for Castlevania Lords Of Shadow?  Did it sell over a million copies or just ship a million?
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Flannel Boy on January 16, 2013, 12:11:46 PM
Quote from: Mupepe on January 16, 2013, 10:22:59 AM
Quote from: Flannel Boy on January 13, 2013, 12:05:06 PM
Quote from: MyNameIsMethodis on January 13, 2013, 10:41:55 AM
are there attractive croatia girls ive never really noticed
Of course there are.
(http://thebox.vn/Uploaded/CTV1/2012_06_20/cogai1.jpg)
Time to eat Cro.
Come on.  Please tell me there's a name to go with this pic
No luck, but . . .

(http://dantri4.vcmedia.vn/i:y0V2Vnsx49nhQPv7HdH/Image/2012/06/croatia1406125_d09ab/nhung-co-ve-co-gai-cam-co-co-dong-dt-croatia-to-ra-vuot-troi-ve-nhan-sac.jpg)

(http://dantri4.vcmedia.vn/i:y0V2Vnsx49nhQPv7HdH/Image/2012/06/croatia1406122_c428e/dang-tiecnbspco-gai-deu-chung-cam-giac-buon-that-tran-nhu-cac-cdv-croatia-khac.jpg)

(http://dantri4.vcmedia.vn/i:y0V2Vnsx49nhQPv7HdH/Image/2012/06/croatia1406123_5ab36/tran-le.jpg)

Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on January 16, 2013, 12:38:06 PM
Leave my girls alone.

....


I don't think PS3 is a good comparison here,Andrex*
The alone fact that people can compare Japan PS3/WiiU launch tells me a lot.

Nintendo now has two belly flops right of the bat,one partially resurrected though.I don't know what Nintendo will do but console business is not comparable to handhelds,it's a completely different game.I guess we'll see how this one goes,but current data is pointing into an iceberg.I would say that Nintendo execs have big things to worry about.Why?Simply because two times in a row they completely misjudged what market wants(see 3D,WiiU tablet).





* resurrection related and see long Oscar posts
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Flannel Boy on January 16, 2013, 12:47:36 PM
Quote from: Borys on January 16, 2013, 12:33:39 PM
Yellow teeth, yuck.

Typical Polish "if it ain't white, it ain't right."  :wag
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Mr. Gundam on January 16, 2013, 12:51:30 PM
WiiU has no games, and it's not going to get better until they have games. Maybe MH4 and DQX will be what it needs, but it's gonna be a long haul until they arrive.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Mupepe on January 16, 2013, 01:21:01 PM
Quote from: Flannel Boy on January 16, 2013, 12:11:46 PM
Quote from: Mupepe on January 16, 2013, 10:22:59 AM
Quote from: Flannel Boy on January 13, 2013, 12:05:06 PM
Quote from: MyNameIsMethodis on January 13, 2013, 10:41:55 AM
are there attractive croatia girls ive never really noticed
Of course there are.
(http://thebox.vn/Uploaded/CTV1/2012_06_20/cogai1.jpg)
Time to eat Cro.
Come on.  Please tell me there's a name to go with this pic
No luck, but . . .

(http://dantri4.vcmedia.vn/i:y0V2Vnsx49nhQPv7HdH/Image/2012/06/croatia1406125_d09ab/nhung-co-ve-co-gai-cam-co-co-dong-dt-croatia-to-ra-vuot-troi-ve-nhan-sac.jpg)

(http://dantri4.vcmedia.vn/i:y0V2Vnsx49nhQPv7HdH/Image/2012/06/croatia1406122_c428e/dang-tiecnbspco-gai-deu-chung-cam-giac-buon-that-tran-nhu-cac-cdv-croatia-khac.jpg)

(http://dantri4.vcmedia.vn/i:y0V2Vnsx49nhQPv7HdH/Image/2012/06/croatia1406123_5ab36/tran-le.jpg)
:hump
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Don Flamenco on January 16, 2013, 01:34:01 PM
now that Disney is really working to make its presence known in the game industry, what are the chances that they do things like not allowing more Kingdom Hearts games or keeping the Marvel license for itself to use only.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Mr. Gundam on January 16, 2013, 01:59:06 PM
I don't see why Disney would yank the Kingdom Hearts stuff. Disney Interactive gets their branding on the more recent titles alongside SE.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: cool breeze on January 16, 2013, 02:14:35 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on January 16, 2013, 01:48:26 PM
I could see them pulling back on Marvel licenses, though Spidey and the X-Men are tied up until 2017 with Activision.  Kingdom Hearts, though, I doubt they'll do anything to mess with.  It's not like this is the first time Disney's gotten serious about games since KH started.

how does that work? Activision has control over everything Spider-man/X-men or is it split like (iirc) Batman was?  and does that mean the Spider-man game for iOS/Android involved Activision?
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on January 16, 2013, 03:02:28 PM
(http://i.minus.com/iV26B3jrgAeUT.png)

hmm
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Tasty on January 16, 2013, 03:16:36 PM
3DS is dooomed.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on January 16, 2013, 03:25:59 PM
Jesus Andrex are you ok with Nintendo doing like this?
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Tasty on January 16, 2013, 03:35:50 PM
Quote from: Premium Lager on January 16, 2013, 03:25:59 PM
Jesus Andrex are you ok with Nintendo doing like this?

Doooooooooooomed.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on January 16, 2013, 03:42:25 PM
Quote from: Andrex on January 16, 2013, 03:16:36 PM
3DS is dooomed.

You sound like some early Vita supporters. :P

Nintendo will sell few millions of course,the real question is where they will land or even better said,how long the runway* is (or will be)?

*in construction
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Great Rumbler on January 16, 2013, 03:46:02 PM
The 3DS is doing as well as its doing because Japanese gamers still like dedicated handheld and because the PSP is at the end of its life and the Vita was DOA. What does the Wii U has that's going to drag it up out of the pit?
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on January 16, 2013, 03:49:12 PM
Nintendo software.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Mr. Gundam on January 16, 2013, 03:59:30 PM
And Dragon Quest.

spoiler (click to show/hide)
Monster Hunter seems more handheld oriented, so I didn't include it.
[close]
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on January 16, 2013, 04:03:53 PM
have nintendo games ever really sold that well outside of mario?
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Great Rumbler on January 16, 2013, 04:04:24 PM
Quote from: MyNameIsMethodis on January 16, 2013, 04:03:53 PM
have nintendo games ever really sold that well outside of mario?

Yes.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on January 16, 2013, 04:05:52 PM
i too like to state facts without examples
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Tasty on January 16, 2013, 04:16:32 PM
Quote from: MyNameIsMethodis on January 16, 2013, 04:03:53 PM
have nintendo games ever really sold that well outside of mario?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_video_game_franchises

#2 Pokemon: 219.28 million
#3 Wii Sports/Fit/Play: 192.76 million
#14 Zelda: 68.13 million
#19 Donkey Kong: 53.994 million
Brain Age: 31.12 million
Super Smash Bros.: 22.78 million
Nintendo Dogs: 21.67 million
Metroid: 14 million
Star Fox: 11.5 million
Animal Crossing: 7 million
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Great Rumbler on January 16, 2013, 04:19:25 PM
Quote from: MyNameIsMethodis on January 16, 2013, 04:05:52 PM
i too like to state facts without examples

Well, we can start with Pokemon.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on January 16, 2013, 04:19:50 PM
How is wii play a game. Im pretty sure its a controller with some shovelware. Hence its the price of a controller.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: tiesto on January 16, 2013, 04:22:54 PM
I honestly thought WiiU would have done a BIT better than it's doing in Japan. Since the system seems like an attempt to address the small living space/limited # of TVs of the Japanese household (along with the tablet dominance in the west). And also, DQX, and Monster Hunter.
Title: Re: Sales Talk Thread of Don't Diss Sales Talk, You Lamers
Post by: Mpl90 on January 16, 2013, 05:16:14 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on January 11, 2013, 11:40:58 PM
um.  methodis is... right?

basically, everyone probably guessed the situation with smartphones/handhelds in each of the major reasons, so they behaved accordingly.  for what it's worth, i don't feel like the 3DS is getting great support either, probably because after a few high profile splatters, everyone knows it's a one-market system.

For this year in Japan, 3DS will get

Dragon Quest VII
Ace Attorney 5
Shin Megami Tensei 4
Monster Hunter IV
Layton 6
Yokai Watch

+ other mid and low profile releases...that's a pretty good third party support in my opinion. And most of the highest profile titles + some of the low profile (Kaio) will be released here too.

About the future, 3DS is selling too much in Japan, both with hardware and software ( especially third party one) to be ignored by Japanese companies. We'll probably see some brand new announcements soon. Even announcements that can be good worldwide ( not giant sellers, but good sellers), since the only flop so far in the West has been Resident Evil: Revelations, while KH3D is doing rather decent in US and will continue to sell in the future and that has been the biggest Japanese third party release in the West by far: using games like Theatrhythm to judge 3DS's third party performances is like using Atelier games to judge PS3's possibilities of selling games, not so useful. Especially when Angry Birds and Sonic do pretty well, Lego titles continue to sell a lot through time, Epic Mickey:PoI being the second best selling SKU ( it's not a 3DS problem if the brand lost so much appeal after the first title) and TotA did very near to the original on PS2 despite initial shortages. Many 3DS titles are having legs, and they will continue to sell next year too: it's how handheld titles work, with some exceptions obviously, like very very niche titles with limited shipments. To note: I'm not saying those third party sales are amazing / are having DS-like-legs, however. Lego titles, for example, could sell more (especially if DS SKU is not a factor anymore, and possibly it'll be the case next year), or KH3D would have sold better in the past (I feel KH brand has slowed down big time too, especially looking at Japanese sales), but I can perfectly say they're fine now overall. I don't think people were expecting things like Code of Princess at over 100k or things like that, I hope at least :P

But I can't feel so positive about Wii U: right now there's just one certainty for the next months, that 3rd party support will be very lacking and Nintendo launch titles are not able to boost sales. Sales have flattened all around the world, especially in Europe where they're pretty tragic looking at charts with no Wii U titles in top 40s / top 10s. I certainly wasn't expecting such a market's rejection like Wii U is having. It resembles a lot Vita right now...the only difference is that Nintendo titles will come, but still.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on January 16, 2013, 06:39:31 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on January 16, 2013, 06:24:55 PM
Quote from: MyNameIsMethodis on January 16, 2013, 04:03:53 PM
have nintendo games ever really sold that well outside of mario?

You are so fucking stupid.  Nintendo is almost consistently in the top three publishers in sales every year.  You really think that's just Mario?

Why the fuck do I not have your dense ass on ignore?

why have you suddenly starting taking me seriously  ??? ???
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: The Sceneman on January 16, 2013, 06:44:25 PM
Quote from: Borys on January 16, 2013, 05:48:59 PM
Quote from: Premium Lager on January 16, 2013, 08:20:30 AM
Wii U  :lol ITS OVER.

(http://i.imgur.com/MtOLs.jpg)

 :lol
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: bork on January 16, 2013, 06:50:48 PM
Quote from: bork laser on January 16, 2013, 11:34:13 AM
Does anyone have worldwide sales numbers for Castlevania Lords Of Shadow?  Did it sell over a million copies or just ship a million?

 :'(
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on January 16, 2013, 07:04:50 PM
Quote from: Borys on January 16, 2013, 06:45:55 PM
Quote from: MyNameIsMethodis on January 16, 2013, 06:39:31 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on January 16, 2013, 06:24:55 PM
Quote from: MyNameIsMethodis on January 16, 2013, 04:03:53 PM
have nintendo games ever really sold that well outside of mario?

You are so fucking stupid.  Nintendo is almost consistently in the top three publishers in sales every year.  You really think that's just Mario?

Why the fuck do I not have your dense ass on ignore?

why have you suddenly starting taking me seriously  ??? ???

Oscar is like that. He can't help giving (last) chance to idiots and... never learns. Again and again.

I enjoy what Oscar does for this community I just hate seeing these pubbies just sign up to use him for their gaf wars :(
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: bork on January 16, 2013, 07:10:07 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on January 16, 2013, 07:00:55 PM
bork, I'll help you out when I get to the office, but I believe it's over a mill WW, if not much more than that.

Thanks.  Wondering how it stacks up to previous console CVs.  Weren't people saying that the sequel might be the last CV due to lackluster sales?  A million+ doesn't seem too bad.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on January 16, 2013, 09:05:10 PM
Oscar if you haven't ignored me already i have a genuine question.

Do you think reviews have -any- effect on a way a game sells? Are reviews taken more seriously in japan by the public then here?
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: DCharlieJP on January 16, 2013, 09:47:02 PM
i'll field that one and let Oscar shat on me later with stats....

for the top level big name games? No - it doesn't really matter. Word of mouth/2ch/etc travel quicker and you'll see that certain unhyped/low reviewed games still sell extremely well.

where it's a big thing is when an unknown or new game has a strong score (Skyrim springs to mind maybe?)

Ultimately, i don't think Famitsu in particular sways reviews -unless- it's an out-of-leftfield high scoring review for a relatively unhyped game.

Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on January 16, 2013, 09:50:29 PM
cool thank you dcharlie :)
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on January 16, 2013, 10:26:32 PM
Ty Oscar :)
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on January 16, 2013, 11:37:26 PM
MC thread is pretty fun to read.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: MCD on January 16, 2013, 11:39:50 PM
not fun anymore for an xfag
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on January 16, 2013, 11:44:27 PM
Quote from: MCD on January 16, 2013, 11:39:50 PM
not fun anymore for an xfag
Accept reality,bro.You will feel much better afterwards.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: MCD on January 16, 2013, 11:47:02 PM
I did by not going to that thread anymore

but I will be back if MS decided to go back next gen but I doubt it, it's all Europe now
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: AdmiralViscen on January 16, 2013, 11:57:59 PM
PS3 rebounded because of publisher goodwill/inprogress projects from the PS2 and 360 ports. Wii U has a predecessor that was completely abandoned years ago and will not work with any ports by the end of the year.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: AdmiralViscen on January 17, 2013, 12:02:57 AM
If the only MGS I've played is 2, and I didn't like it too much after the boat, should I try MGS3 on 3DS?
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Beezy on January 17, 2013, 03:19:52 AM
And make sure to get Subsistence.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: bork on January 17, 2013, 11:58:52 AM
Thanks Oscar!
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Steve Contra on January 17, 2013, 12:25:37 PM
Christ those Wii U sales.  I remember people were saying it was going to settle into 40k a week (which is bad enough) before anything came out.  It took one week to hit 20k, I suspect Vita numbers until NDAs are liftedand Sega announce Shenmue WIIIU
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Don Flamenco on January 17, 2013, 12:30:46 PM
Quote from: AdmiralViscen on January 17, 2013, 12:02:57 AM
If the only MGS I've played is 2, and I didn't like it too much after the boat, should I try MGS3 on 3DS?


wow, i forgot it even came out on the 3DS.   

how bad is that port? 

i agree about playing it on the HD collection.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: bork on January 17, 2013, 01:05:47 PM
I wasn't a fan of MGS2 either and never did get too far after the Tanker chapter.

I loved MGS3.  Would recommend that you play it on the HD Collection (on PS3, 360, and Vita) and not on 3DS.  The 3DS port has some major framerate issues from what I've read.  It's too bad because I like the added Peacewalker control stuff.

When I really look at it, I pretty much just like MGS1 and MGS3.  Never finished any of the others, barely played MGS2 and MGS4.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on January 17, 2013, 01:07:44 PM
the framerate is so so so so so bad on MGS3ds. its embarrasing. But yeah being able to crouch walk was a nice addition.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on January 18, 2013, 02:06:23 AM
http://www.cnbc.com/id/100389482

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Sony said it has agreed to sell its U.S.headquarters building in New York City for $1.1 billion to a consortium led by real estate developer The Chetrit Group.

After repayment of debt related to the building and other transaction costs, Sony said it is expected to receive net cash proceeds of about $770 million. A gain on the sale of about $685 million would be recorded as operating income, it added.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: MCD on January 18, 2013, 02:11:12 AM
Nokia also did the same thing in Finland but at least they are getting back bit by bit now.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on January 18, 2013, 02:47:04 AM
You're 100% right Oscar but they do own more property i assume. So its not as despo as selling your last asset.

Sure times is super bad for them but they obviously still have space to manouver (making some assets liquid) and turn things around if they reorganize.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Momo on January 18, 2013, 02:59:49 AM
Quote from: MCD on January 18, 2013, 02:11:12 AM
Nokia also did the same thing in Finland but at least they are getting back bit by bit now.
Last I checked Nokia was still in bad shape
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: MCD on January 18, 2013, 03:06:00 AM
Quote from: Momo on January 18, 2013, 02:59:49 AM
Quote from: MCD on January 18, 2013, 02:11:12 AM
Nokia also did the same thing in Finland but at least they are getting back bit by bit now.
Last I checked Nokia was still in bad shape
http://www.wpcentral.com/nokia-rising-stock-breaks-through-4-share-upon-news-strong-demand
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013/01/10/is-nokia-back-lumia-sales_n_2446779.html

Not groundbreaking but a little better than their gloomy days.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on January 18, 2013, 08:32:10 AM
Some France numbers,credit goes to gaf

Quote
Via LSA: http://www.lsa-conso.fr/premier-bila...-france,137328
Numbers by P. Lavoué from Nintendo France.

Wii U 2012 : 120k / 38M€
Wii 2006 : 180k

Basic pack: 10%; ZombiU pack: 15%; Premium: 75%.


3DS 2012 : almost 950k
ps3 2012 : 700k
Wii 2012 : 372k
Xbox360 2012 : 360k

Nintendo PR,prior to launch
http://www.gamekult.com/actu/wii-u-240-000-consoles-pour-la-france-A104998.html
240K shipped between launch day and end of december

Basic :violin
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Phoenix Dark on January 19, 2013, 02:02:55 AM
Quote from: Borys on January 16, 2013, 05:48:59 PM
Quote from: Premium Lager on January 16, 2013, 08:20:30 AM
Wii U  :lol ITS OVER.

(http://i.imgur.com/MtOLs.jpg)
:lol

Just saw the numbers, wow. I figured people were being hyperbolic when they predicted the PS3 might sell more soon, ouch.

Seems like Nintendo will need to do better than just telling people Smash Brothers will be out some day. There's literally no WiiU games on the horizon that justify purchasing one
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on January 19, 2013, 02:46:43 AM
jvm article

http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/185024/Breaking_down_Wii_Us_postlaunch_software_lull.php#.UPpNtx26b0c

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I spoke with Liam Callahan, an analyst with the NPD Group, and he was kind enough to pull the data for the Wii U and the previous six consoles that launched in the U.S.

In the figures below, I'm only considering the first four calendar months that a system was out. So, except for the PlayStation 2, which launched in October 2000, all of these windows run from November of one year through February of the following year.

(http://gamesetwatch.com/launch-window-skus-by-platform-number-ordering.png)

release order
(http://gamesetwatch.com/launch-window-skus-by-platform-release-ordering.png)
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Himu on January 19, 2013, 04:51:05 AM
Hahahah my friend left Sony Music for Capitol Records at the right time! Bless her.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on January 19, 2013, 06:34:51 PM
Huh so Sony sold its US HQ as well.

Uh oh

They must need money baaaaad to sell two buildings.

They can stay in the building for 3 more years. Make or break time i guess for them.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on January 20, 2013, 02:57:34 AM
Stolen from gaf

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Just took this photo at a Walmart, asked an employee and was told that the games were getting recalled to other stores that sell Vita games at a higher rate. Meaning only select locations will carry the games now.
Quote
(http://www.imgur.com/wCxXUw7.jpeg)

 :-X
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Tasty on January 20, 2013, 03:35:56 AM
That is insane.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: benjipwns on January 20, 2013, 03:56:50 AM
We have to remember that this is just what one guy was supposedly told by an employee. You could just as easily find anecdotes about places where the Vita and most games have sold out. And it's also just after the holiday season so they're probably figuring out what to restock.

And also keep in mind that Wal-Mart isn't really the type of store where something like the Vita would sell a lot. There's a lot of competition from places like GameStop and Best Buy and Target, not to mention Amazon, the PSN store and others. And Wal-Mart seems like the least likely place someone would go to buy a high end consumer-focused product like the Vita or look for games. (Especially since few people would even bother with going to the store when you can buy online.)

I think once Killzone and Soul Sacrifice and those other big titles come out along with more advertising to show this is a product that's a step above a rehash like the 3DS (that's also bombing compared to the DS mind you) that Wal-Mart will rush to get the product back on the shelves. Don't forget that Wal-Mart strong arms a lot of suppliers and Sony might have held firm knowing that they have a quality product that retailers will eventually be begging for once the consumers get properly informed and the economy recovers a bit.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Damian79 on January 20, 2013, 03:59:35 AM
Since when is killzone a system seller?  Soul sacrifice yes, killzone no.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on January 20, 2013, 05:27:34 AM
Not sure what was Sony thinking when they targeted this device towards console owners.

I guess old habits die hard...
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on January 20, 2013, 09:19:32 AM
The Walmart that I shop at on occasion got rid of their Vita wares months ago to make room for the Wii U.

Definitely depressing and if the largest retailer in the country is slowly dropping the product, that is one of the final nails in the coffin.  I thought about making a list of Vita games I want and just buying them.  I could see a lot of Vita games just kind of disappear and command ridiculous retail amounts.  Games like Virtua Tennis 4, Disgaya 3, Metal Gear Solid HD, etc.

A shame because it was a great system but these are clearly the twilight months of its life.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on January 21, 2013, 05:06:19 AM
http://www.chart-track.co.uk/index.jsp?c=p/software/uk/latest/index_test.jsp&ct=110032

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Capcom end FIFA 13’s run at the top as ‘DMC’ (Devil May Cry) debuts at No1.

It may be a quiet time of year, but it still represents Capcom’s first All Formats No1 since ‘Resident Evil 5’ back in week 13 2009 (Resident Evil 6 could only manage No2). Released on Tuesday and developed by Cambridge indie developer Ninja Theory (the first time a Devil May Cry title has been developed outside of Capcom), DMC sells over a third of what ‘Devil May Cry 4’ did at launch when it also reached No1, back in week 6 2008.
‘FIFA 13’ (-40%) drops to No2 ahead of ‘Call of Duty: Black Ops II’ (-26%), while ‘Far Cry 3’ (-49%) falls 2 places to No4. There is no change at No5 and No6 with ‘Need for Speed Most Wanted’ (-35%) and ‘Just Dance 4’ (-18%) both non-movers. ‘Football Manager 2013’ (-16%) is up one place to No7, while sales of ‘Hitman Absolution’ (-50%) are cut in half, knocking it from No4 to No8. The Top 10 is rounded off by ‘Skyrim’ (-20%) at No9 and ‘Assassin’s Creed III’ (-21%) at No10. DMC is the only new release to chart this week.

(http://i.imgur.com/pBKimfs.png)
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on January 21, 2013, 05:19:31 AM
Do we have any numbers on highest selling Wii U game?
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on January 21, 2013, 05:21:44 AM
No.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on January 21, 2013, 05:26:31 AM
Sub 1k you think? Making WiiU sales sub 1k?
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on January 21, 2013, 05:38:33 AM
Dunno,but the bottom is certainly very low.Maybe that zombi dude gives some hints.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on January 21, 2013, 06:20:09 AM
Wiki link for the lazy
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_Wii_video_games

Find US and Japan LTD and make a list

Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on January 22, 2013, 03:33:39 AM
Quote from: Premium Lager on January 21, 2013, 05:26:31 AM
Sub 1k you think? Making WiiU sales sub 1k?

 

Mpl90 calculation
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TOP 10 NINTENDO Wii U, WEEK ENDING 19 January 2013
1    1    NEW SUPER MARIO BROS. U
2    2    NINTENDO LAND   
3    3    ZOMBI U
4    4    SONIC & ALL STARS RACING TRANSFORMED
6    5    CALL OF DUTY: BLACK OPS II <330
10    6    ASSASSIN'S CREED III
5    7    NINJA GAIDEN 3: RAZOR'S EDGE   
8    8    BATMAN: ARKHAM CITY - ARMOURED EDITION
9    9    SPORTS CONNECTION
-    10    TEKKEN TAG TOURNAMENT 2

Tekken sold around 160 copies last week.

Before you start jumping around :P,I will say this.
Whatever has hit 3DS,Vita,WiiU will hit next gen consoles equally hard.The only question is will they break or bend...
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on January 22, 2013, 07:51:40 AM
Who cares about these games coming out now, I know I'm not going to buy anything big untill next gen and  my friends have stopped buying games a year or two ago already (casuals) except maybe a FIFA.

I bet most casual dudebro's are the same. 8 years is too long, the industry did this to themselves.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Positive Touch on January 22, 2013, 08:00:14 AM
yeah i'm sure everyone's just got a couple hundred stashed away so they can run right out and pick up the new console as soon as its released


if ms wants a good business strategy to help against low demand maybe they should start hitting up bill & melinda to spend some of that humanitarian money lobbying for fixing income equality :lol
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on January 22, 2013, 08:06:42 AM
You don't got 1k reserved for launch?
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on January 22, 2013, 08:12:08 AM
Going to be very tough to get consumers on board to spend hundreds of dollars on an entertainment device that doesn't start with an "i".

E3 is going to be full of lulz as Microsoft and Sony try to appeal to different types of consumers when they unveil various features for their new hardware.  Some of these ideas are going to fall flat on their asses, much to our amusement.  I can't wait!
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on January 22, 2013, 08:51:26 AM
I didnt even think about next gen bombing. Maybe I have to stick to my PC :(
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: archnemesis on January 22, 2013, 08:57:50 AM
People are still going to want to play games from their couch with minimal effort. The audience will shift to next-gen when the popular games make the transition. One or two of the new systems could still bomb, but at least one will be moderately successful.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Himu on January 22, 2013, 10:24:55 AM
Quote from: The Experiment on January 22, 2013, 08:12:08 AM
Going to be very tough to get consumers on board to spend hundreds of dollars on an entertainment device that doesn't start with an "i".

E3 is going to be full of lulz as Microsoft and Sony try to appeal to different types of consumers when they unveil various features for their new hardware.  Some of these ideas are going to fall flat on their asses, much to our amusement.  I can't wait!

.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: ToxicAdam on January 22, 2013, 10:47:28 AM
Consoles aren't going to bomb. They are still going to move 150-180 million units in the next 6-7 years. Maybe more if one of them can ride a trend. 

What they might lose in gamers (to mobile), they will gain in people that like their set-top capabilities.

 
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Tasty on January 22, 2013, 04:31:08 PM
Set Top boxes are and have always been the deserted dregs of home media, stretching all the way back to the early 2000s. Everyone and their mother has tried their hand at it including Apple but consumers just don't give a damn. I doubt set top capabilities are enough to "save" any console.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: AdmiralViscen on January 22, 2013, 04:36:33 PM
Hopefully Microsoft's plan B to "save" its console isn't to launch with Arkham City and Mass Effect 3
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on January 22, 2013, 05:08:59 PM
Quote from: Andrex on January 22, 2013, 04:31:08 PM
Set Top boxes are and have always been the deserted dregs of home media, stretching all the way back to the early 2000s. Everyone and their mother has tried their hand at it including Apple but consumers just don't give a damn. I doubt set top capabilities are enough to "save" any console.

The CD-I is from 2000  ???
Title: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Huff on January 22, 2013, 05:21:05 PM
Quote from: Exodust SoulBurn on January 22, 2013, 04:20:03 PM
Or a new netflix machine.

Whoever has the best Netflix interface gets my dollars
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Tasty on January 22, 2013, 06:00:48 PM
Quote from: Premium Lager on January 22, 2013, 05:08:59 PM
Quote from: Andrex on January 22, 2013, 04:31:08 PM
Set Top boxes are and have always been the deserted dregs of home media, stretching all the way back to the early 2000s. Everyone and their mother has tried their hand at it including Apple but consumers just don't give a damn. I doubt set top capabilities are enough to "save" any console.

The CD-I is from 2000  ???

Your point ???
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: bork on January 22, 2013, 08:55:35 PM
I believe his point is that the CD-I didn't come out in 2000...it was released in 1991.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on January 22, 2013, 10:34:19 PM
They shove Netflix, Hulu, etc. onto everything these days.  My TV has more streaming services than my Wii U.  Being a set top box doesn't amount to much these days.

They're going to have to find a new hook to bring people in and it isn't "going social."  Everyone and their dog has some type of social function these days.  It's going to have to be something novel and something that people actually want to play.  It isn't the economy, iPads, iPhones, iPods, etc. sell dozens of millions each year despite going for 2-3 times what a 360 goes for.  It's a large uphill battle and any of these consoles can fall flat on their asses.  The Wii U is fucking tanking right now with sub Gamecube level software sales.  Even though its Nintendo lol there still has to be a lot of executives nervous as hell as they reach the final months.  I hope that they got some good shit in store for us.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Tasty on January 22, 2013, 11:00:10 PM
Quote from: bork laser on January 22, 2013, 08:55:35 PM
I believe his point is that the CD-I didn't come out in 2000...it was released in 1991.

...and...?
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on January 23, 2013, 07:43:14 AM
Quote from: Andrex on January 22, 2013, 11:00:10 PM
Quote from: bork laser on January 22, 2013, 08:55:35 PM
I believe his point is that the CD-I didn't come out in 2000...it was released in 1991.

...and...?

And you said companies where trying to sell setup boxes since the early 2000's, so you're off BY A DECADE.

That said you were born in the 90's so I guess it's only fair you don't know what went down.

Then again it's funny when you make these broad statements about how the industry works, but then actually don't know the history. Puts your statements into the right perspective.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: archie4208 on January 23, 2013, 08:37:19 AM
01./00. [PS3] DmC: Devil May Cry <ACT> (Capcom) {2013.01.17} (¥6.990) - 110.429 / NEW

Apparently that's less than half of what DMC4 did back in 2008.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Joe Molotov on January 23, 2013, 09:01:19 AM
:devilcry
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: archnemesis on January 23, 2013, 09:13:23 AM
That's actually a bit surprising to me. I didn't think their average customer would pay close attention to who developed the game.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Don Flamenco on January 23, 2013, 10:05:05 AM
I guess "modernizing" Devil May Cry is not what the market wanted.  Now lets see some shit numbers in the U.S. and hopefully the next time I hear about DmC, it's for Devil May Cry 5, made in-house by Capcom.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: archie4208 on January 23, 2013, 10:09:51 AM
DmC's bombing probably means Capcom gives it the Mega Man treatment.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Don Flamenco on January 23, 2013, 10:12:40 AM
I'd take that too...


but they might also just let NT make another because the first game was critically acclaimed.   

Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: HyperZoneWasAwesome on January 23, 2013, 02:35:21 PM
I doubt, seriously, that a DMC 5 would have sold better or substantially more then the latest installment.
kinda like how RE6 is an actual improvement over part 5 but sold worse.  Just like how GTA5 will kick ass but not as much as IV did, or as Halo 4 didn't light em' up quite as much as Halo 3, same with Hitman Absolution and doubly so with Medal of Honor.

save Borderlands 2 and Battlefield 3, I can't really think of any recent franchise title that has sold better then its predecessor, and I would imagine that part of this is brand fatigue and part of this is the industry contraction.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Purple Filth on January 23, 2013, 02:56:22 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on January 23, 2013, 10:13:25 AM
Maybe.  DMC's a much more lucrative brand than Mega ever was, though.  They might be able to pull a New Coke/ Coca Cola Classic out of this if they're smart.

Its Capcom so chances are low tbh.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Steve Contra on January 23, 2013, 03:03:09 PM
You need to remember DMC4 left a sour taste in a lot of people's mouths.  DMC5 wasn't a slam dunk no matter you look at it.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: AdmiralViscen on January 23, 2013, 03:35:38 PM
Didn't Halo 4 outperform Halo 3 and Reach?
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Rahxephon91 on January 23, 2013, 05:25:42 PM
Quote from: HyperZoneWasAwesome on January 23, 2013, 02:35:21 PM
I doubt, seriously, that a DMC 5 would have sold better or substantially more then the latest installment.
kinda like how RE6 is an actual improvement over part 5 but sold worse.  Just like how GTA5 will kick ass but not as much as IV did, or as Halo 4 didn't light em' up quite as much as Halo 3, same with Hitman Absolution and doubly so with Medal of Honor.

save Borderlands 2 and Battlefield 3, I can't really think of any recent franchise title that has sold better then its predecessor, and I would imagine that part of this is brand fatigue and part of this is the industry contraction.
Kind of faulty logic with the RE6 comparison. Since RE6's slow down is sales has to do with it's bad world of mouth. If RE6 was meet with a very positive reception the game would have been bigger.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Bebpo on January 23, 2013, 05:57:55 PM
Welp, DMC is dead.  Time for an Onimusha reboot!
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Fifstar on January 23, 2013, 06:40:18 PM
I thought Darksiders 2 kinda bombed? Did it sell better than the first title but did bad in comparison to develoment costs?
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Eel O'Brian on January 23, 2013, 06:43:44 PM
Doesn't each Elder Scrolls game outsell the previous one?

Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: The Sceneman on January 23, 2013, 06:44:43 PM
Skyrim tanked iirc
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on January 23, 2013, 07:20:57 PM
Onimusha is a rad series. They should make it super serious though instead of fucking zombies ala Way of the Samurai
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on January 23, 2013, 07:27:47 PM
how come we never got the 1600s yakuza game
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Tasty on January 23, 2013, 07:38:15 PM
Quote from: Bebpo on January 23, 2013, 05:57:55 PM
Welp, DMC is dead.  Time for an Onimusha reboot!

Shenmue reboot where Ryo is a grimdark 17 year old smack addict who has to kill his dealer who was part of the gang that shot up his homiez.

spoiler (click to show/hide)
Exclusively on iOS.
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Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on January 23, 2013, 07:45:28 PM
I'm with Steve - the #1 reason for DmC's sales is DMC4. it's always the previous game that kills the latest
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Rahxephon91 on January 24, 2013, 02:50:18 AM
I thought playing as Nero was a pretty great addition. It felt pretty need and different to me. If they just added that and Dante's quick change style to one character you would have had a pretty fresh playing game. I really just think a DMC5 needed to do that and not have repeating levels. I think if you just fixed the structure problem of 4 you'd have a pretty fantastic game. My only problem with DMC4 was having Dante repeat the game.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on January 24, 2013, 05:08:36 AM
MC numbers,Week 3, 2013 (Jan 14 - Jan 20)
Quote
3DS LL   51,015
3DS   30,840
PS3   19,697
Wii U   16,654
PSP   15,343
Vita   9,036
Wii   2,199
Xbox 360   706


Quote
On Wednesday morning, Capcom addressed questions concerning PS Vita’s omission from the re-release of “Resident Evil Revelations”. Mike Lunn, Product Manager at Capcom, replied to questions from fans and shared a couple of reasons as to why the PS Vita wasn’t a platform of choice.

Yesterday, Capcom announced “Resident Evil Revelations Unveiled Edition” for release on Xbox 360, PS3, PC, and Wii U on May 21 in North America. Immediately, fans noticed that the PlayStation Vita has been omitted from this new release and now fans are wondering why Capcom chose not to put this once 3DS exclusive on Sony’s handheld.

Well, the reasons may surprise you.

When asked why there is no PS Vita version, he replied:

…. when we were developing Revelations for new platforms we really wanted to hone in on the experience you get with a large format screen, surround sound, etc. This type of setup really helps players get sucked into the horror vibe and enjoy the game to its fullest extent.

He later added:


3DS and PS-vita infrastructure let alone developing games for them are extremely different beasts. Even just the screens as you mention are completely different resolutions/functions.

Please understand.

Also WiiU is bombing hard hard with nothing in the close future to pull it up.

Btw,Famitsu has this
WiiU 16.635
PSP  16.625

For comparison,somebody posted this on gaf
Quote
Wii never dropped below 20.000 units until the week 117. (2009.02.16 - 16.973)
Wii never dropped below 15.000 units until the week 124. (2009.04.06 - 13.349)
Wii never dropped below 10.000 units until the week 224. (2011.03.07 - 9.519)
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on January 24, 2013, 06:25:30 AM
PS 3 widening the gap between last gen consoles :rock

What are the LTD between PS3 and WiiU?
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: archnemesis on January 24, 2013, 06:50:24 AM
PS3
YTD: 107.040
LTD: 8.967.124

Wii U
YTD: 104.452
LTD:  731.739

(Media Create)
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Flannel Boy on January 24, 2013, 09:00:54 AM
So how many weeks until an price slash/ambassador program/please understand?
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Don Flamenco on January 24, 2013, 09:32:40 AM
Quote from: HyperZoneWasAwesome on January 23, 2013, 02:35:21 PM
I doubt, seriously, that a DMC 5 would have sold better or substantially more then the latest installment.
kinda like how RE6 is an actual improvement over part 5 but sold worse.  Just like how GTA5 will kick ass but not as much as IV did, or as Halo 4 didn't light em' up quite as much as Halo 3, same with Hitman Absolution and doubly so with Medal of Honor.

save Borderlands 2 and Battlefield 3, I can't really think of any recent franchise title that has sold better then its predecessor, and I would imagine that part of this is brand fatigue and part of this is the industry contraction.

Quote from: Steve Contra on January 23, 2013, 03:03:09 PM
You need to remember DMC4 left a sour taste in a lot of people's mouths.  DMC5 wasn't a slam dunk no matter you look at it.


yes, DMC5 would have both outsold and reviewed better than DmC, if Capcom addressed things that needed to be changed in 4.   

It has been 5 years since DMC4 (2/2008), there's no brand fatigue.  The only brand fatigue was brought on by Capcom taking years to even announce a sequel.  Before DmC was rumored/announced, people were clamoring for DMC5.  The series had/has lots of fans.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on January 24, 2013, 05:04:36 PM
http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/news/press/2013/jan13/01-24fy13Q2earningsPR.aspx

MICROSOFT - Three Months Ended December 31, 2012 (in Millions)
Quote
Microsoft Corporation


Revenue ---> $21,456

Operating Income ---> $7,771

Net Income ---> $6,377


Entertainment & Devices Division

Revenue ---> $3,772

Operating Income ---> $596

(http://i6.minus.com/ibrAFYcPlWZJlO.png)

What to say...bring on next gen,you certainly have the cash
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on January 24, 2013, 06:02:47 PM
Yeah,it was there in Q1 report.


Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Great Rumbler on January 24, 2013, 06:25:51 PM
They've got a ton of stuff lumped together and they're still only pulling down $600 million in income? Not really all that hot, to be honest.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on January 24, 2013, 06:28:30 PM
Checked it,Skype first appearance...FY12 Q1(Entertainment & Devices Division).

"Skype acquisition closed"
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Steve Contra on January 24, 2013, 06:58:47 PM
Quote from: Don Flamenco on January 24, 2013, 09:32:40 AM
Quote from: HyperZoneWasAwesome on January 23, 2013, 02:35:21 PM
I doubt, seriously, that a DMC 5 would have sold better or substantially more then the latest installment.
kinda like how RE6 is an actual improvement over part 5 but sold worse.  Just like how GTA5 will kick ass but not as much as IV did, or as Halo 4 didn't light em' up quite as much as Halo 3, same with Hitman Absolution and doubly so with Medal of Honor.

save Borderlands 2 and Battlefield 3, I can't really think of any recent franchise title that has sold better then its predecessor, and I would imagine that part of this is brand fatigue and part of this is the industry contraction.

Quote from: Steve Contra on January 23, 2013, 03:03:09 PM
You need to remember DMC4 left a sour taste in a lot of people's mouths.  DMC5 wasn't a slam dunk no matter you look at it.


yes, DMC5 would have both outsold and reviewed better than DmC, if Capcom addressed things that needed to be changed in 4.   

It has been 5 years since DMC4 (2/2008), there's no brand fatigue.  The only brand fatigue was brought on by Capcom taking years to even announce a sequel.  Before DmC was rumored/announced, people were clamoring for DMC5.  The series had/has lots of fans.
You're making the classic mistake of taking forum goers as the general population.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Great Rumbler on January 25, 2013, 05:03:00 PM
Top sellers for 2012 in Japan:

1. DS – Pokémon BW2 – 2,919,977 (2,919,977)
2. 3DS – Animal Crossing: New Leaf – 1,969,955 (1,969,955)
3. 3DS – New Super Mario Bros 2 – 1,743,791 (1,743,791)
4. 3DS – Dragon Quest Monsters – 919,870 (919,870)
5. PS3 – Resident Evil 6 – 833,012 (833,012)
6. PS3 – One Piece Musou – 828,150 (828,150)
7. 3DS – Mario Kart 7 – 748,797 (1,908,966)
8. 3DS – Super Mario 3D Land – 689,374 (1,769,566)
9. Wii – Mario Party 9 – 641,348 (641,348)
10. Wii – Dragon Quest X Online – 609,783 (609,783)
11. 3DS – Monster Hunter 3G – 602,058 (1,587,556)
12. PS3 – Yakuza 5 – 518,224 (518,224)
13. PS3 – Dragon’s Dogma – 467,375 (467,375)
14. 3DS – Fire Emblem Kakusei – 455,268 (455,268)
15. PS3 – Tales of Xillia 2 – 428,913 (428,913)
16. 3DS – Paper Mario: Sticker Star – 402,133 (402,133)
17. PS3 – Winning Eleven 2013 – 399,340 (399,340)
18. 3DS – Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Gates to Infinity – 373,699 (373,699)
19. Wii U – New Super Mario Brothers U – 369,392 (369,392)
20. Wii – Wii Sports Resort – 358,627 (1,161,600)
21. PSP – Super Robot Wars ZII – 344,018 (344,018)
22. DS – Pokémon Conquest – 341,250 (341,250)
23. 3DS – Taiko no Tatsujin Chibi Dragon – 340,533 (340,533)
24. PS3 – Resident Evil: Operation Racoon City – 338,889 (338,889)
25. 3DS – Kingdom Hearts 3D – 338,812 (338,812)
26. 3DS – Tousouchu Shijou Saikyou no Hunter – 337,472 (337,472)
27. Wii – Taiko no Tatsujin Wii – 321,959 (321,959)
28. 3DS – Kid Icarus: Uprising – 316,133 (316,133)
29. 3DS – Inazuma Eleven GO 2 – 314,016 (314,016)
30. 3DS – Resident Evil: Revelations – 296,040 (296,040)
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Tasty on January 25, 2013, 05:17:31 PM
:bow Top 3, Nintendo is king of Japan. :bow2
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: AdmiralViscen on January 25, 2013, 09:41:32 PM
theres a mario party 9?
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Tasty on January 25, 2013, 10:12:07 PM
609k is... pretty horrible for a mainline Dragon Quest, even excusing it's an MMO on a dead platform.

I wonder if the Wii U version will blow past that easily or if it'll be just as much as an uphill battle.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on January 25, 2013, 10:18:23 PM
what was the name of the dragon quest pokemon clone on the game boy color?
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Don Flamenco on January 25, 2013, 10:54:52 PM
Quote from: Steve Contra on January 24, 2013, 06:58:47 PM
Quote from: Don Flamenco on January 24, 2013, 09:32:40 AM
Quote from: HyperZoneWasAwesome on January 23, 2013, 02:35:21 PM
I doubt, seriously, that a DMC 5 would have sold better or substantially more then the latest installment.
kinda like how RE6 is an actual improvement over part 5 but sold worse.  Just like how GTA5 will kick ass but not as much as IV did, or as Halo 4 didn't light em' up quite as much as Halo 3, same with Hitman Absolution and doubly so with Medal of Honor.

save Borderlands 2 and Battlefield 3, I can't really think of any recent franchise title that has sold better then its predecessor, and I would imagine that part of this is brand fatigue and part of this is the industry contraction.

Quote from: Steve Contra on January 23, 2013, 03:03:09 PM
You need to remember DMC4 left a sour taste in a lot of people's mouths.  DMC5 wasn't a slam dunk no matter you look at it.


yes, DMC5 would have both outsold and reviewed better than DmC, if Capcom addressed things that needed to be changed in 4.   

It has been 5 years since DMC4 (2/2008), there's no brand fatigue.  The only brand fatigue was brought on by Capcom taking years to even announce a sequel.  Before DmC was rumored/announced, people were clamoring for DMC5.  The series had/has lots of fans.
You're making the classic mistake of taking forum goers as the general population.


Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on January 24, 2013, 07:28:28 PM
Or... are you?

intrigue!



he is! 
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Tasty on January 25, 2013, 11:03:40 PM
Quote from: MyNameIsMethodis on January 25, 2013, 10:18:23 PM
what was the name of the dragon quest pokemon clone on the game boy color?

Terry's Wonderland?
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Tasty on January 25, 2013, 11:39:06 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on January 25, 2013, 11:17:18 PM
Quote from: Andrex on January 25, 2013, 10:12:07 PM
609k is... pretty horrible for a mainline Dragon Quest, even excusing it's an MMO on a dead platform.

I wonder if the Wii U version will blow past that easily or if it'll be just as much as an uphill battle.

haha, you really have no idea what you're talking about

Enlighten me, Oscar sama. I would love to be able to say DQX beat expectations on GAF, it fuels my obvious ninthing agenda you know.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Tasty on January 26, 2013, 12:00:34 AM
Did they launch the PS2 version first?
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Tasty on January 26, 2013, 12:49:06 AM
Just wondering.

OK, so DQX sold gangbusters. Good to know.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Himu on January 26, 2013, 01:14:49 AM
Quote from: HyperZoneWasAwesome on January 23, 2013, 02:35:21 PM
I doubt, seriously, that a DMC 5 would have sold better or substantially more then the latest installment.
kinda like how RE6 is an actual improvement over part 5 but sold worse.  Just like how GTA5 will kick ass but not as much as IV did, or as Halo 4 didn't light em' up quite as much as Halo 3, same with Hitman Absolution and doubly so with Medal of Honor.

save Borderlands 2 and Battlefield 3, I can't really think of any recent franchise title that has sold better then its predecessor, and I would imagine that part of this is brand fatigue and part of this is the industry contraction.

First thing ever.disagreed with hyper zone on
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Phoenix Dark on January 27, 2013, 01:39:45 PM
Any devils advocate defense of the WiiU strategy in Japan so far? I don't understand Nintendo's reasoning for not having some big launch title for the homeland, and nothing on the horizon. Also will this rebound like the 3DS after a flurry of software/Mario Kart?
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Great Rumbler on January 27, 2013, 01:44:52 PM
Quote from: Phoenix Dark on January 27, 2013, 01:39:45 PM
Also will this rebound like the 3DS after a flurry of software/Mario Kart?

It's possible, I suppose, but two of the factors for the 3DS's resurgence seems to be that the Japanese still like playing dedicated handhelds and every other dedicated handheld is either at the end of its life [DS and PSP] or never had any life to begin with [Vita]. Home consoles haven't looked good in Japan for a while [both the Wii and the PS3 have been in the dumps for months] and the PS4, at least, is likely to have far more life to it than the Vita ever did. The Wii U just isn't in a very good situation right now and I don't see what Nintendo can do, other than launch a massive flurry of must-have titles very soon, to make any kind of a turn around.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Tasty on January 27, 2013, 02:12:53 PM
Quote from: Phoenix Dark on January 27, 2013, 01:39:45 PM
I don't understand Nintendo's reasoning for not having some big launch title for the homeland

I suspect they believed MH3G HD and NSMBU would help more than they have.

Quote from: Phoenix Dark on January 27, 2013, 01:39:45 PM
and nothing on the horizon.

Define horizon.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on January 27, 2013, 03:08:18 PM
Quote from: Phoenix Dark on January 27, 2013, 01:39:45 PM
Any devils advocate defense of the WiiU strategy in Japan so far? I don't understand Nintendo's reasoning for not having some big launch title for the homeland, and nothing on the horizon. Also will this rebound like the 3DS after a flurry of software/Mario Kart?

I will try to answer the bold part.
Rebound?Yes.
Rebound like 3DS?No.

One thing I'm pretty sure,unless some miracle happens soon third party is generally fucked up on this platform.If I was third party I would ask myself just one question.

This thing will inevitably start selling so wtf  should we do right now?Visit a psychic?

million dollar question
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on January 27, 2013, 04:59:43 PM
Quote from: Great Rumbler on January 27, 2013, 01:44:52 PM
Quote from: Phoenix Dark on January 27, 2013, 01:39:45 PM
Also will this rebound like the 3DS after a flurry of software/Mario Kart?

It's possible, I suppose, but two of the factors for the 3DS's resurgence seems to be that the Japanese still like playing dedicated handhelds and every other dedicated handheld is either at the end of its life [DS and PSP] or never had any life to begin with [Vita]. Home consoles haven't looked good in Japan for a while [both the Wii and the PS3 have been in the dumps for months] and the PS4, at least, is likely to have far more life to it than the Vita ever did. The Wii U just isn't in a very good situation right now and I don't see what Nintendo can do, other than launch a massive flurry of must-have titles very soon, to make any kind of a turn around.

That depends on if Nintendo is even willing to save it.  The "Panic Nintendo is the best Nintendo" didn't quite pan out for the Gamecube.  We could get a bunch of great must haves for it or Nintendo could just drop software support for it after 2014 and just hope that the 3DS successor pans out in the marketplace.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Father_Brain on January 27, 2013, 06:43:14 PM
Quote from: wyrdwad, XSEED Games
Also, I've said this in many places, but the Vita is SO not dead! People give up on these systems waaaaaay too quickly. Ragnarok Odyssey has been doing great, and the system seems to have a very bright future ahead of it.

People seem to assume that new systems must be absolute runaway successes for all parties IMMEDIATELY or they're simply never going to be successful at all. But the past has proven this incorrect time and time again, and I think the Vita is no exception there. All this "doom and gloom" about it seems so silly, considering it's not even a year old here in North America yet! It hasn't even learned to crawl, much less walk. Give it time, though, and it'll be zoomin' all over the place. ;)

Granted, XSEED doesn't exactly need a large userbase to sell their games to, so they should do fine supporting Vita for the foreseeable future... but looking at the bigger picture, the amount of willful ignorance and/or fanboyish delusion required to believe this is pretty remarkable.

On another note, Nintendo's earnings release on Wednesday should be fun.  I hope Iwata is asked some good, tough questions, particularly about third-party support.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Tasty on January 27, 2013, 06:51:31 PM
I hope they ask about their digital content strategy and they don't deflect to "Look! Miiverse on smartphones! Nintendo is hip and with it now! BELIEVE"
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on January 27, 2013, 07:10:23 PM
If that means xseed is bringing Ys IV over, great.

Regarding the rest of that statement, I don't believe it at all.  I guess the only outside chance is if Sony really pushes Vita/PS4 integration.  I still think Sony is going to be phasing it out throughout this year to the point where nobody really notices.  No price drops, no fire sales, nothing.  Just a slow fade.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Don Flamenco on January 27, 2013, 07:19:35 PM
Quote from: Father_Brain on January 27, 2013, 06:43:14 PM
Quote from: wyrdwad, XSEED Games
Also, I've said this in many places, but the Vita is SO not dead! People give up on these systems waaaaaay too quickly. Ragnarok Odyssey has been doing great, and the system seems to have a very bright future ahead of it.

People seem to assume that new systems must be absolute runaway successes for all parties IMMEDIATELY or they're simply never going to be successful at all. But the past has proven this incorrect time and time again, and I think the Vita is no exception there. All this "doom and gloom" about it seems so silly, considering it's not even a year old here in North America yet! It hasn't even learned to crawl, much less walk. Give it time, though, and it'll be zoomin' all over the place. ;)

Granted, XSEED doesn't exactly need a large userbase to sell their games to, so they should do fine supporting Vita for the foreseeable future... but looking at the bigger picture, the amount of willful ignorance and/or fanboyish delusion required to believe this is pretty remarkable.

On another note, Nintendo's earnings release on Wednesday should be fun.  I hope Iwata is asked some good, tough questions, particularly about third-party support.


he's 100% correct.  you guys just fear vita-lovers.  me and my fellow borean viggers will defend its honor alongside mr. wyrdwad
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: DCharlieJP on January 27, 2013, 07:32:02 PM
yup - unless there's some super secret Sony super relaunch coming the Vita is going to limp along until Kaz takes it round the back of the shed and puts it out of it's misery - but there might be a long period where Kaz eye's the mangy old mutt from his sofa and hasn't the heart to do it just yet.

Best to hope for is that there's going to be some huge "TADAAAAAAA! SUPLIZE!!!!" around Soul Sacrifice time with a bunch of first parties and some Paid For exclusives.

But yup - i'm not expecting anything immaginative from Sony.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Don Flamenco on January 27, 2013, 07:55:06 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on January 27, 2013, 07:28:19 PM
Worth mentioning that in the past Wyrdwad has clearly demonstrated he has no access to sales data outside XSeed's own.  So, yeah, from his perspective, Vita probably seems fine.  But from his perspective, a game that barely sold 50k was his company's greatest success.

yes, my serious response would be that as much as I like his enthusiasm, a system doesn't live off games that sell in the 10k - 50k range.or system sales in japan in the 4 digits without a monster hunter game to phoenix down their system.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: originalz on January 27, 2013, 07:57:44 PM
You guys should get Sam Bishop to post here, he posts on SA and is the most blatant shill for Sony and the Vita you'll ever see from a "professional journalist".  Holy hell, you could quote every single post he makes and have a field day with it.  Before the launch he was claiming that people who thought that the Vita would fail were certifiably insane, and is still delusional about how this E3 Sony is going to go big and everyone will turn around and realize what an amazing system it is and it'll be the best selling thing ever.  When people asked him if he actually had any real knowledge about E3 announcements (you know, since he's actually in the press scene), he said that he didn't, but it it's only logical for Sony to focus on the Vita this year.

Sadly people don't call him out on his stupid shit that often, although when they do he just waves it off saying "I'll admit I got a little excited and may have exaggerated a bit there, but you know..."  What an embarrassment to the industry.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Father_Brain on January 27, 2013, 08:20:38 PM
Quote from: originalz on January 27, 2013, 07:57:44 PM
You guys should get Sam Bishop to post here, he posts on SA and is the most blatant shill for Sony and the Vita you'll ever see from a "professional journalist".  Holy hell, you could quote every single post he makes and have a field day with it.  Before the launch he was claiming that people who thought that the Vita would fail were certifiably insane, and is still delusional about how this E3 Sony is going to go big and everyone will turn around and realize what an amazing system it is and it'll be the best selling thing ever.  When people asked him if he actually had any real knowledge about E3 announcements (you know, since he's actually in the press scene), he said that he didn't, but it it's only logical for Sony to focus on the Vita this year.

Sadly people don't call him out on his stupid shit that often, although when they do he just waves it off saying "I'll admit I got a little excited and may have exaggerated a bit there, but you know..."  What an embarrassment to the industry.

Yeah, he's hilarious.  The only remotely specific Vita-related promise I ever saw him make was stating as fact, just after Sony's TGS 2011 conference, that Capcom would be bringing both RE and LP to the platform in some form.

When I asked him again about a year later, he claimed that his source at Capcom had left the company shortly after he posted the "rumor," and thus could no longer verify it.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: cool breeze on January 27, 2013, 09:16:19 PM
the good old days when there was a clear victor

and it's sad that Ys Vita's localization status is up in the air.  Makes nayuta no kiseki's chances seem less than zero, unless it gets a 3DS port or something.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Purple Filth on January 28, 2013, 12:42:02 AM
Quote from: originalz on January 27, 2013, 07:57:44 PM
You guys should get Sam Bishop to post here, he posts on SA and is the most blatant shill for Sony and the Vita you'll ever see from a "professional journalist".  Holy hell, you could quote every single post he makes and have a field day with it.  Before the launch he was claiming that people who thought that the Vita would fail were certifiably insane, and is still delusional about how this E3 Sony is going to go big and everyone will turn around and realize what an amazing system it is and it'll be the best selling thing ever.  When people asked him if he actually had any real knowledge about E3 announcements (you know, since he's actually in the press scene), he said that he didn't, but it it's only logical for Sony to focus on the Vita this year.

Sadly people don't call him out on his stupid shit that often, although when they do he just waves it off saying "I'll admit I got a little excited and may have exaggerated a bit there, but you know..."  What an embarrassment to the industry.


I remember that meltdown he had  :lol
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on January 28, 2013, 06:43:20 AM
http://www.chart-track.co.uk/index.jsp?c=p/software/uk/latest/index_test.jsp&ct=110032

DMC bomba
3 Wii games
no WiiU games

Nintendo has a really big WiiU problem,they should not be digging tunnels bellow UK top 40*.Japan is headed into that direction too and I have a feeling that January NPD will be brutal.

Question for Japan people,what is the used WiiU stores situation?What is the price compared to retail?Are stores full of it?


*Anecdotal stuff
In my country(consoles/games imported from UK) there is like just one retailer that caries WiiU,very expensive shop that mostly imports foreign magazines and books.The rest of the gaming oriented shops literally have no mention of WiiU and they are full of Wii,PS3,360,PC stuff.No preorders,no call to ask,nothing.I have noticed this before but I thought it was a typical few weeks after disease.Main capital,btw

For comparison Wii,PS3,360 were available as soon as they could get them.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on January 28, 2013, 08:55:10 AM
Oh man that great Nintendo Direct sure sparked some sales in the UK  :lol

Western gamers can't wait for X, yoshi and SMT vs Fire Emblem.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Momo on January 28, 2013, 11:06:52 AM
Quote from: Borys on January 28, 2013, 10:46:48 AM
Quote from: maxy on January 28, 2013, 06:43:20 AM
http://www.chart-track.co.uk/index.jsp?c=p/software/uk/latest/index_test.jsp&ct=110032

DMC bomba
3 Wii games
no WiiU games

Nintendo has a really big WiiU problem,they should not be digging tunnels bellow UK top 40*.Japan is headed into that direction too and I have a feeling that January NPD will be brutal.

Question for Japan people,what is the used WiiU stores situation?What is the price compared to retail?Are stores full of it?


*Anecdotal stuff
In my country(consoles/games imported from UK) there is like just one retailer that caries WiiU,very expensive shop that mostly imports foreign magazines and books.The rest of the gaming oriented shops literally have no mention of WiiU and they are full of Wii,PS3,360,PC stuff.No preorders,no call to ask,nothing.I have noticed this before but I thought it was a typical few weeks after disease.Main capital,btw

For comparison Wii,PS3,360 were available as soon as they could get them.

(http://www.abload.de/img/amekbv.gif)
(http://i.imgur.com/GjlsMgj.gif)
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on January 28, 2013, 12:07:03 PM
Borys  :lol

@Oscar : how much did Xenosaga / Xenoblade sell in the west?
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: FoneBone on January 28, 2013, 01:17:49 PM
IIRC NPD numbers don't include games exclusive to one retailer, so there aren't US numbers available for Xenoblade.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Tasty on January 28, 2013, 01:21:51 PM
Correction: NPD has the data but can't make it available, as it's retailer-specific.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on January 28, 2013, 03:08:50 PM
My guess: under 500k
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Joe Molotov on January 28, 2013, 03:49:42 PM
A pretty bold guess.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on January 28, 2013, 03:54:05 PM
there is no way it sold more than 20k
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Great Rumbler on January 28, 2013, 03:57:43 PM
Quote from: MyNameIsMethodis on January 28, 2013, 03:54:05 PM
there is no way it sold more than 20k

Every copy that NoA printed ended up being sold, but I don't think anyone really knows how many they printed. However:

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According to Gamasutra, it was the fourth best-selling game in the UK during its first week. Investment banking firm Piper Jaffray estimated it to be one of the best-selling games in the United States during the month of April 2012, along with Mass Effect 3 and Prototype 2.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on January 28, 2013, 04:16:44 PM
Yeah it still didnt sell more then 500k in the us probs, come on.
Title: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Huff on January 28, 2013, 04:23:41 PM
No shit lager
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Shaka Khan on January 28, 2013, 07:39:34 PM
I personally think selling out on GS' website and every store in a 100 miles radius, and selling new copies for $100+, used for $80+ by non-GS retailers/eBay sellers meant someone cares, and more importantly it met Nintendo's projected sales, but WHAT DO I KNOW?
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Momo on January 28, 2013, 08:01:29 PM
X - care
Yoshi - have never cared, never will
Fire Emblem - care
SMT - care
FE vs SMT - idontknowwhattothink.gif
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on January 29, 2013, 02:54:32 AM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on January 28, 2013, 06:08:35 PM
I sincerely doubt it sold more than 500k.  It's not a Yoshi or Kirby game, after all.  Is 500k the number you've arbitrarily decided to be the 'gamers care' line, Lager?

Yeah I guess, then again Uncharted didn't even chart at first  :lol

Do you know what it did outside of the US Oscar?

Quote from: Shaka Khan on January 28, 2013, 07:39:34 PM
I personally think selling out on GS' website and every store in a 100 miles radius, and selling new copies for $100+, used for $80+ by non-GS retailers/eBay sellers meant someone cares, and more importantly it met Nintendo's projected sales, but WHAT DO I KNOW?

Panzer Dragoon Saga sold out as well.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Phoenix Dark on January 29, 2013, 03:46:02 AM
All those games seem like niche stuff for the western audience. And Pikminhas won't sell hardware either

A quick Mario Kart tho? Seems like that and a price cut could turn things around
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Shaka Khan on January 29, 2013, 04:08:42 AM
What was the last Yoshi game, the one on the DS? If so do you think the platform and market conditions would allow it to repeat that success, even a softer one?
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on January 29, 2013, 11:57:06 AM
Some UK sales stuff(numbers :drool),pretty long article
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2013-01-25-nintendos-wii-u-sales-struggle

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Eurogamer has been told by UK numbers firm Chart-Track that, after five weeks on sale, the Wii U's initial sales figure counted for 50.1 per cent of the system's total. This indicates that Wii U sales in the UK were at the 80,000 units mark at the beginning of January. It's a huge drop-off in sales momentum after the console's initial weekend on sale, but one that is typical of other UK hardware launches: pre-orders and pent up customer demand will always make for a huge first week and, by comparison, first-week sales for the original Wii counted for 50.4 per cent of its sales total after the same five-week period. For Xbox 360 it was 54.6 per cent, and for PlayStation 3 it was 71.7 per cent.

Wii U numbers as a whole are far less than other recent home console launches. We know that PlayStation 3 sold 165,000 units over its opening weekend in the UK, so another 29.3 per cent of sales would count for 48,345 units - pushing its five-week total to 208,000. Xbox 360 sold 70,000 in its opening weekend, so therefore sold 101,000 over five weeks. Finally, the Wii sold 105,000 units in its opening weekend, meaning in five weeks it had sold over 210,000. This leaves the Wii U, in the UK at least, lagging some way behind. But it's important to note that launch sales are just that. In the UK the PS3 outsold Xbox 360 by 2:1 at launch, but Microsoft's console has ended up selling significantly more than Sony's over its lifetime on these shores.

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In terms of money made, it took four weeks for the Wii U to earn £18 million - the amount that the original Wii made in its launch week. That's despite all three Wii U launch bundles costing more, with the most popular Premium bundle priced at least £100 higher per unit

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"The performance so far is below my expectations," said Michael Pachter, famed crystal ball gazer at Wedbush Securities. "In fairness, [Nintendo's] forecast of 5.5 million global consoles shipped by 31st March was the reason my expectations were higher. The stock at retail suggests that they did ship around a million to the US [in time for Christmas], but they were not sold out. By way of comparison, they sold 1,090,000 Wiis in November and December 2006 in the US and were sold out.

"This device is simply not as highly in demand," he continued, "and although I didn't expect it to be over the long run, I did expect Nintendo fanboys to support it in bigger numbers at launch. It really is amazing that there are so few true hardcore Nintendo fanboys in the US, but they make so much noise."


(http://images.eurogamer.net/2013/articles/1/5/5/1/3/0/1/135938879316.jpg/EG11/resize/600x-1/quality/91)

Another article
http://www.computerandvideogames.com/388568/lifetime-xbox-360-sales-set-to-overtake-wii-in-uk/
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Lifetime Xbox 360 sales look certain to overtake those of current-gen leader Nintendo Wii in the UK.

Microsoft's console was less than 200,000 sales behind Wii at the end of December, having sold over four times more units than Wii in 2012, according to data supplied to CVG by GFK Chart-Track.
Nintendo UK confirmed before Christmas that around 8 million Wii consoles had been sold in the UK.

Despite a reported 33% decline in video game console sales last year, Xbox 360 is said to have outsold its current-gen rivals by a "significant margin" in Britain during 2012.

Nintendo DS and PlayStation 2 remain the UK's first and second best selling games consoles respectively, with Wii and Xbox 360 currently in third and fourth spots.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Momo on January 29, 2013, 12:03:43 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on January 28, 2013, 08:03:26 PM
well, i'm glad we finally have that important momo data. 
Guess my reply was late, was replying to Lager of yesterday.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on January 29, 2013, 12:29:42 PM
Thing is with those numbers Wii U looks dead in the water with no big games/any games coming to boost those numbers any time soon.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on January 29, 2013, 05:16:16 PM
Digital stuff is hard to get,so this is better than nothing

http://gamasutra.com/view/news/185238/GameStop_positions_itself_to_survive_in_a_growing_digital_age.php#.UQhHEh26b0d

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Traditional brick and mortar isn’t going away anytime soon – and used game sales are still a viable force. But day one digital purchase options are becoming more and more frequent on consoles and DLC is one of the fastest growing segments in the industry.

To adapt, the retailer has been in the process of pivoting for a while now. And Brad Schliesser, director of digital content for GameStop, says the efforts are paying off.
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Store clerks, who inform customers about the DLC options at the point of purchase, are helping raise awareness, he says. And a notable number of those customers are being converted to buyers.

"What struck us was that 50 percent of the people that were buying DLC from GameStop had never purchased DLC before," says Schliesser. "I always believed if all we did was take customers who were shopping at the Microsoft storefront or the PlayStation storefront and make them our customers, that doesn't benefit the whole. If we were going to be a significant player in the content market, we had to widen the pie."

The goal, says Schliesser, is not to convert core gamers, who are already comfortable with purchasing directly from console companies. Instead, the company is hoping to rope in the people who either do not have a credit card or are uncomfortable entering their credit card information onto the systems – which it already reaches through Xbox Live subscription card sales.

Buyers tend to favor the Xbox 360 when purchasing DLC from GameStop. Sales for that system account for 65 percent of GameStop’s overall DLC sales, says Schliesser. The PlayStation 3 makes up 28-30 percent. And other devices fill the gap.

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Those other devices include Steam. Valve’s digital distribution service offers brick and mortar purchases through GameStop – and while it hasn’t been a notable sales driver to date, it is showing promise.

"I would say that Steam is gaining in significance," says Schliesser. "We did extremely well in the Steam summer sale. They’ve been a fantastic partner, coming together with an agreement to sell the currency. They've also promoted the currency on their platform. I think they also are seeing the benefit of being able to reach out to customers that aren't able to pay with a credit card."

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One of the hurdles facing the company today is when customers buy their DLC at the store, they simply receive a code, which they must enter when they get home, then wait for the content to download. That's not exactly a seamless experience.

Schliesser says GameStop is painfully aware of this and is already talking with console companies about making the process smoother. Specifically, customers would purchase the content at GameStop; then the retailer (through a secure handshake with the console company) would confirm the transaction had taken place and the DLC would be instantly put into the user’s account.

Originally, in fact, that was the plan.

"We thought we'd have to have that in place," he says. "Making this a little easier for consumers is the icing on the cake. Our goal on this is 'let's make it a better process for the consumer.' … Our goal in 2013 would be to get one partner to convert to a 'push to box' model."
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on January 29, 2013, 07:08:52 PM
High tech?
What good would that do?Totally pricing themselves out of their target market,prolonging already long game development time?
It's pretty obvious that big hitters are nowhere near ready at this point so I guess they will have to crawl through mud* for quite a while.

*quicksand at some point
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: The Sceneman on January 29, 2013, 07:24:10 PM
Quote from: maxy on January 29, 2013, 11:57:06 AM
(http://images.eurogamer.net/2013/articles/1/5/5/1/3/0/1/135938879316.jpg/EG11/resize/600x-1/quality/91)

The reason why the 360 numbers are low is because of massive product shortages.

See: http://www.ukresistance.co.uk/2006/01/trying-to-buy-xbox-360-in-london-on.html
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on January 29, 2013, 09:30:40 PM
Yeah the 360 was virtually non-existent for the first several months.  I had to buy a Japanese 360 (of which there were plenty of) to get that 360 experience.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on January 30, 2013, 02:57:43 AM
Nintendo results
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(reported in Millions of yen)

1 USD ~ 90.90 yen
1 Euro ~ 122.60 yen


Net Sales ---> ¥543,033

Operating Loss ---> ¥5,857

Net Income ---> ¥ 14,545

FY 2012/13 Nintendo Forecast (Unit: Million)
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January 30, 2013

                       3DS      NDS      Wii       Wii U
   
Hardware       15.00     2.30     4.00      4.00   

Software       50.00     33.00    50.00     16.00   

-------------------------------------------------------

October 24, 2012

                       3DS      NDS      Wii       Wii U
   
Hardware       17.50     2.50     5.00      5.50   

Software       70.00     37.00    50.50     24.00 

Wii U Worldwide Unit Sales (Unit: Million)
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Hardware  Ap-Jn    Jl-Sp    Oc-Dc    Ja-Mr      FY      LTD

FY 2012/13       -        -      3.06       -       3.06     3.06



Software       Ap-Jn    Jl-Sp    Oc-Dc    Ja-Mr      FY      LTD

FY 2012/13       -        -      11.69      -       11.69    11.69

As expected,forecast cuts across the board.WiiU and 3DS software got pretty hefty cuts.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Damian79 on January 30, 2013, 03:15:39 AM
So they are still making profits!  Go Nintendo! /Andrex
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Tasty on January 30, 2013, 03:19:48 AM
I like keeping tabs on Nintendo's financials but it's not usually something that's a consideration for me.

I think the Wii U software forecast cut must be the one that stings the most. The others seem tame to me in comparison to that.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on January 30, 2013, 06:42:13 AM
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On February 1, Grasshopper Manufacture, the developer behind No More Heroes, Lollipop Chainsaw, and the upcoming Killer is Dead, will join GungHo Group, both companies have announced.

GungHo is fusing the planning and development power of Grasshopper Manufacture with the power of managing online games cultivated by both companies to produce higher quality content.

4Gamer published an interview with GungHo CEO Kazuki Morishita and Grasshopper CEO Goichi Suda discussing the union.
Japanese links
http://www.4gamer.net/games/148/G014877/20130124090/
http://www.gungho.co.jp/news/html_window/2013/01/entry_3489.html

Oscar?
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Brehvolution on January 30, 2013, 08:38:06 AM
It's too bad Gungho isn't in a America. With a name like that, they would get shit done.

Over there, Gungho is just a name.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on January 30, 2013, 10:07:04 AM
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=47077634&postcount=1
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Media Create Sales: Week 4, 2013 (Jan 21 - Jan 27)

01./02. [3DS] Animal Crossing: New Leaf # <ETC> (Nintendo) {2012.11.08} (¥4.800) - 82.370 / 2.366.126 (-15%)
02./01. [PS3] DmC: Devil May Cry <ACT> (Capcom) {2013.01.17} (¥6.990) - 31.627 / 142.056 (-71%)
03./00. [PSP] Gintama no Sugoroku <TBL> (Bandai Namco Games) {2013.01.24} (¥6.280) - 27.011 / NEW
04./00. [PSV] Demon Gaze <RPG> (Kadokawa Games) {2013.01.24} (¥6.090) - 25.316 / NEW
05./00. [3DS] Fantasy Life <RPG> (Level 5) {2012.12.27} (¥5.800) - 25.042 / 187.772
06./00. [PSV] Genkai Totsuki Monster Monpiece # <SLG> (Compile Heart) {2013.01.24} (¥7.140) - 24.978 / NEW
07./00. [PS3] Kamisama to Unmei Kakumei no Paradox # <RPG> (Nippon Ichi Software) {2013.01.24} (¥7.140) - 23.417 / NEW
08./00. [PS3] Hitman: Absolution <ACT> (Square Enix) {2013.01.24} (¥7.980) - 22.233 / NEW
09./03. [PSP] Digimon Adventure <RPG> (Bandai Namco Games) {2013.01.17} (¥6.280) - 13.991 / 61.798 (-71%)
10./04. [3DS] New Super Mario Bros. 2 # <ACT> (Nintendo) {2012.07.28} (¥4.800) - 12.834 / 1.886.476 (-28%)
11./05. [3DS] Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate (Best Price!) <ACT> (Capcom) {2012.11.15} (¥3.800) - 12.105 / 196.243 (-12%)
12./06. [3DS] Inazuma Eleven Go 2: Chrono Stone - Neppuu / Raimei <RPG> (Level 5) {2012.12.13} (¥5.500) - 8.942 / 400.331 (-26%)
13./08. [3DS] Paper Mario: Sticker Star <ADV> (Nintendo) {2012.12.06} (¥4.800) - 8.185 / 504.107 (-26%)
14./12. [3DS] Taiko no Tatsujin: Chibi Dragon to Fushigi na Orb <ACT> (Bandai Namco Games) {2012.07.12} (¥5.040) - 7.640 / 401.125 (-9%)
15./09. [WIU] New Super Mario Bros. U <ACT> (Nintendo) {2012.12.08} (¥5.985) - 6.883 / 448.591 (-28%)
16./19. [WII] Taiko no Tatsujin Wii: Super Deluxe Edition # <ACT> (Bandai Namco Games) {2012.11.29} (¥5.040) - 6.852 / 367.165 (+17%)
17./07. [3DS] Tousouchuu: Shijou Saikyou no Hunter-Tachi Kara Nigekire! <ACT> (Bandai Namco Games) {2012.07.05} (¥5.040) - 6.761 / 406.143 (-42%)
18./15. [PS3] Call of Duty: Black Ops II - Dubbed Edition <ACT> (Square Enix) {2012.12.20} (¥7.980) - 6.111 / 112.964 (-17%)
19./10. [PS3] Fist of the North Star: Ken's Rage 2 # <ACT> (Koei Tecmo) {2012.12.20} (¥8.190) - 5.983 / 222.794 (-36%)
20./11. [WIU] Nintendo Land <ETC> (Nintendo) {2012.12.08} (¥4.935) - 5.914 / 276.831 (-32%)

3DS LL   48,226
3DS   26,898
PS3   18,322
Wii U   13,746
PSP   12,897
Vita   9,748
Wii   2,093
Xbox 360   611


Famitsu numbers
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3DS: 79.793
PS3: 17.242
PSP: 14.058
WIIU: 12.335
WII: 2.170
PSV: 8.495
360: 511
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on January 30, 2013, 10:09:39 AM
Looks like the Wii U will be joining the Vita in about a couple of months
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Great Rumbler on January 30, 2013, 10:22:15 AM
Japan desperately needs a popular new home console right about now.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: bork on January 30, 2013, 10:43:33 AM
Quote from: The Experiment on January 30, 2013, 10:09:39 AM
Looks like the Wii U will be joining the Vita in about a couple of months

Based on those numbers, it looks like everything except the 3DS will be joining the Vita.   :gloomy
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Tasty on January 30, 2013, 10:55:17 AM
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Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate (Best Price!)

I assume this is a separate SKU from Tri G?

Quote from: Great Rumbler on January 30, 2013, 10:22:15 AM
Japan desperately needs a popular new home console right about now.

It's not going to get one.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Don Flamenco on January 30, 2013, 11:02:49 AM
Quote from: Borys on January 30, 2013, 10:46:16 AM
Wii U pretty close to Vita. Pretty sad to see a new home console struggling like that :-\


It's tough to see the Vita struggling like that, considering it's the much better system at the moment :(


Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on January 30, 2013, 07:49:16 AM
bye bye grasshopper

enjoy your iphone gatchapon games

That's the vibe I got from the news too-- that this company isn't buying Grasshopper to make a weird Flower, Sun, Rain sequel.   Not sure why they'd acquire Grasshopper otherwise though...

Congrats to Suda51 for making some bucks!   Killer Is Dead will be a nice send-off.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Joe Molotov on January 30, 2013, 11:14:11 AM
LAZY SALES RESEARCH GROUPS
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Don Flamenco on January 30, 2013, 11:21:03 AM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on January 29, 2013, 06:08:51 PM
Quote from: Premium Lager on January 29, 2013, 12:29:42 PM
Thing is with those numbers Wii U looks dead in the water with no big games/any games coming to boost those numbers any time soon.

It is very much dead in the water.  This is Nintendo's biggest botch-up since the Virtual Boy.  Probably their second-biggest botch-up of all time, even.


How much money will they actually lose on the WiiU though?  They must still have a ridiculous amount of cash from Wii + DS sales.  (Obviously, that doesn't make the complete failure of a console OK and they would be in bad business shape, even if they weren't in bad financial shape, if that were to happen.)
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Steve Youngblood on January 30, 2013, 12:41:17 PM
Quote from: maxy on January 30, 2013, 02:57:43 AM
Nintendo results:

As expected,forecast cuts across the board.WiiU and 3DS software got pretty hefty cuts.

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Am I doing this right?
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Purple Filth on January 30, 2013, 01:52:18 PM
At least Nintendo is profitable again right?

right?
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: bork on January 30, 2013, 02:02:16 PM
XenoBlade II project to be retooled into 3DS digital comic-dating sim
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: AdmiralViscen on January 30, 2013, 03:15:52 PM
surprise, bad data
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on January 30, 2013, 06:13:58 PM
http://news.ea.com/press-release/company-news/electronic-arts-reports-q3-fy13-financial-results

Webcast Notes,Q&A...credit goes to some gaf dude
spoiler (click to show/hide)
Webcast Notes - I'll try and update as it goes along...
Consumers are behaving in a way reflective of a console transition
Console transitions are difficult, initiate periods of strong growth, represent significant opportunity
Working on new Battlefield and FIFA titles
Medal of Honor performed well below our expectations
Strong performance from FIFA, Need for Speed
NHL performance down
Packaged goods up $16 million, following FIFA/Battlefield 3
Strong Digital Performance
Deferring Battlefield Premium revenue of 15% to following quarter
44 million full-game downloads
Majority of Q3 digital revenue came from FIFA, Medal of Honor, and Need for Speed
Full game download performance will increase in the future
100 million in mobile games, 36 YOY growth
Majority of mobile success from 'The Simpsons: Tapped Out'
Subscriptions, advertising, Digital Revenue - 79 million (excl. Battlefield Premium)
Digital momentum continues to build and we see this as the future.
Q4 predictions: Battlefield Premium, FIFA Ultimate Team, Crysis 3, Sim City, Dead Space 3.
Q4 challenges: following Holiday softness, significant volatility due to 'console transition'.
FUSE delayed to Q1 of fiscal 2014.

Peter Moore...
Distinction between HD consoles vs. SD consoles — both trending down, HD 13% down.
EA console titles focused fully on HD.
EA had 6 of the top 20 hits of 2012.
Clear distinction between winners and losers — in Q3, EA had both.
Global revenue for digital services grew 25%.
We struggled with slowdown of sector, and poor critical and commercial performance of MOH.
Critics polarised.
MOH scores "lower than deserved".
Consumers didn't respond to 'authenticity' proposition.
MOH no longer part of our shooter rotation.
FIFA 13 No. 1 in Europe in 2012, outselling Call of Duty.
Need for Speed: Most Wanted, up 30% YOY, outperformed other racing titles. Now an annualised blockbuster.
Battlefield in a position to become a top franchise in the industry.
Bejeweled Blitz, Simpsons Tapped Out coming to Android.
Dead Space 3, demo generated 44% more downloads than Dead Space 2 demo on Xbox 360.
Crysis 3 pre-orders 40% higher than Crysis 2.
SimCity critical reception shaping up well.
Real Racing 3 launches Feb 28
Tiger Woods March 28, Army of Two March 29, FUSE Q1 Spring
Origin 2 million users registered in January.
Fiscal 14 ushering in a new era of gaming.

Q&A - John Riccitiello, Frank Gibeau, Peter Moore

Q: Medal of Honor: what drove performance, what steps can you take to prevent a repeat, comment on YOY continuity of FPS titles.
A: In a hit driven business, about what you can build, we missed on MOH and take responsibility. We released 11 games scoring 80+, delivered 90% titles on time. MOH overshadows this, but we're proud of our teams overall. As for shooters, Battlefield is coming.

Q: Marketing expense increased, is this sustainable thinking of things going forward? Also, you talk about recurring franchises (now that Medal of Honor is out of the picture) — FIFA and Battlefield make up the majority of profits, as you move into next-gen, what changes?
A: Trend driven by titles and activity in the quarter. A lot of work is done to get the most out of each marketing dollar, conscious of what to spend and when. Hold off on putting trends in your models going forward, but we're working to drive it down. We want to maintain a smaller selection of titles going forward.

We want to build around franchises, like Battlefield and FIFA. We try to build profitability by developing a long digital life, e.g. Battlefield Premium, FIFA Ultimate Team, across multiple devices. All of that can be monetized and helps drive profitability as opposed to a single boxed title.

We believe that FIFA and Battlefield can remain in the top 5, possibly 1 and 2, as we move into the technology transition we see coming. They will help lead this transition and continue to get bigger. They are vitally important to us, but not at the expense of our other franchises.

Q: You're facing headwind following late state of console cycle, a lot is out of your control at the moment, people are expecting well selling new consoles. If new consoles are not competitive, what is your 'Plan B'? Does it involve other platforms that are gaining penetration? Are you preparing for this?
A: The data on game usage is clear. We have added gamers to the universe of paying game customers. There is no slowdown. Substantial digital growth — 37% growth in last 12 months. Digital is a valuable part of our business. Driven by a great talent base. We have great talent and a great business. We know exactly what's coming and we know more than what's disclosed to consumers and investors. Plan A: explode with opportunities we see on console. We have high confidence.

Q: What is driving digital growth?
A: Full game downloads are PC centric, like Battlefield, a substantial title, bigger than anything else in this quarter — drove full game downloads in this quarter. See the slides for further illustration on this. Almost all of this is driven by Battlefield and Star Wars.

Q: Should we assume next quarter to be bigger?
A: Take Battlefield Premium. 108 million will drop into 4Q, minimum. Down to last expansion pack in the series, so it might trend down a little bit. One thing to keep in mind, most cost for developing product were incurred as quarters went along, so that revenue will be at a high gross margin as it comes into 4Q.

Q: Wii U — you're not pursing aggressively. What does this say about consumers adopting next-generation consoles in the future?
A: Never count Nintendo out. They have great IP. You will see a bounce when they bring these IPs out. We see no correlation between Wii U sales and what we expect from other next-gen consoles, can't talk a lot about that though. What we describe as "Gen 4" is yet to come. We're excited and investing in it.

Q: Any softness around FPS/M-rated games/Gun Club following recent events? View on media/political focus?
A: We didn't want to answer this question. We're not seeing softness in FPS sector. We have an advantage at EA, sharing with ESRB and ESA, being exposed to Washington. We're a responsible industry and confident in our content not having a link to violence. We were stunned and horrified by the violence in Connecticut and Colorado. There's been an enormous amount of research into links, nobody's found anything. Supreme Court concluded that we deserve all 1st Amended Right freedoms, following agreement with evidence in multiple studies. We understand that there may not be an actual problem, there is a perception to wrestle with. We want to be part of the solution. Our media reaches many Americans and can be used as a voice for good. We don't want to be the butt of the joke. We're ready to step up.

Q: Mid-core genre for Mobile. Where you guys at?
A: Real Racing is coming, other titles planned going forward. Big believers in audience.

Q: Plants vs Zombies 2?
A: Nothing to announce, great plan for Pop Cap going forward to expand franchise.

Q: Valve introduced Steam Box at CES, uncertainty around Sony and Microsoft. Could Valve be a player?
A: John is "in the Gabe Newell fan club". He's a big fan of their content, Portal is his all time favourite. Having said that, Valve hasn't said much about their plans. Large scale success usually goes with multiple billions of investment in development, online relationships, retail, manufacturing, supply, etc... Based on what Valve has said so far, it could be a nice niche product for Valve fans. They need to reveal more about their plans.

Q: Learnings from Simpsons: Tapped Out? What techniques can you apply to other IP?
A: Simpsons IP great opportunity for us, in regard to episodic content, e.g. Treehouse of Horrors. At its core, it's a hilarious game.

Q: What is driving Q4 predictions?
A: Most analysts expecting big quarter, following Assassin's Creed 3, Call of Duty: Black Ops 2, Halo 4, Need for Speed, Madden, FIFA. Despite great games well marketed, quarter was weaker than we anticipated going in. Often happens when consumers expect a console transition. Sales are down and erratic. We're about to launch the 1st of 3 packaged goods title that will define our quarter. We know we've got a fast boat, we just don't know how deep the water is. We think the content's great, we're anxious about the sector a bit.

Q: Battlefield. Are you dropping Medal of Honor and annualising Battlefield?
A: We're not announcing an annualisation of Battlefield today. We're releasing a new Battlefield title next year and we'll talk more about it soon.

Q: Digital: What's working and what's not working? Are there areas you're rethinking?
A: Mobile is working for us in addition to digital downloads for full games and PDLC, like Battlefield Premium and FIFA Ultimate Team. Bunch of F2P models are working well for us. FIFA in Korea and Japan are F2P and are working well. Premium and F2P across mobile, PC and console are working well for us. Absent is social. Social has not down well for us. We have the IP we need and the channel access we need. We can lead digital with great execution in Asia, following western success. Added strength following PopCap acquisition. We have a great hand. We like what we've got and we're not looking to drop.

And we're done!
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Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on January 31, 2013, 02:00:30 AM
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Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: treythemovie on January 31, 2013, 03:37:49 AM
I'm not too surprised. Nintendo has been the #1 publisher in terms of software revenue for a long while now. Despite only releasing games on ailing platforms. Makes the most sense to me that its due to people buying up Mario like crack addicts.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on January 31, 2013, 05:24:41 AM
Tons of stuff here,Nintendo :bow2
http://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/en/library/events/130131/02.html



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Interesting how PSP hardware still lives in Japan and Europe.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on January 31, 2013, 05:56:53 AM
Dunno,we have eaten quite a lot into traditional PS EU share.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Fifstar on January 31, 2013, 06:24:34 AM
Dat EU market regression. And it mostly eats up Nintendo's percentage.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Joe Molotov on January 31, 2013, 09:06:57 AM
Quote from: Borys on January 31, 2013, 05:51:55 AM
You can clearly see US = Xbox land and EU = Sony land in the above. Well except the UK. Fooking brits.

Great find, maxy.

And Japan = 3DS Land.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Tasty on January 31, 2013, 10:49:18 AM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on January 31, 2013, 02:08:59 AM
jesus christ, nintendo moves a lot of software.  i can't believe NSMB DS is still selling over a million a year.

I'm more surprised stuff like that isn't keeping them more above the water. DS and Wii systems have to be like 95% pure profit, double for the software at this point.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Don Flamenco on January 31, 2013, 10:57:57 AM
their quarter to quarter reports don't include all the money they have stashed away (which is a lot, I assume.) 
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: treythemovie on January 31, 2013, 11:01:15 AM
Quote from: Andrex on January 31, 2013, 10:49:18 AM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on January 31, 2013, 02:08:59 AM
jesus christ, nintendo moves a lot of software.  i can't believe NSMB DS is still selling over a million a year.

I'm more surprised stuff like that isn't keeping them more above the water. DS and Wii systems have to be like 95% pure profit, double for the software at this point.
it costs a lot more to make these goods then you're assuming. And Nintendo's overall sales/revenue have been sliding downward for a long time now.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Great Rumbler on January 31, 2013, 11:07:00 AM
R&D costs big bucks.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on January 31, 2013, 12:56:39 PM
R & D of what???

Ducktaping gamecubes for 15 years costs money?
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Great Rumbler on February 01, 2013, 02:17:11 PM
Quote from: http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2013-02-01-mojang-hits-USD240m-revenue-in-2012-eyes-emerging-markets
Mojang brought in a reported revenue of almost $240 million in 2012, with around $100 million coming from license fees.

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While the huge success of Minecraft continues to surprise, Manneh believes there is potential for future growth in a number of global markets, and he expects the company to make progress in that area in the coming year. Manneh singled out Brazil in this regard, which is Minecraft's third largest territory in terms of number of players, but a very tough market for online monetisation due to a lack of credit cards.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Brehvolution on February 01, 2013, 02:33:26 PM
I've bought Minecraft for the PC, 360, and ios for my son.
spoiler (click to show/hide)
He doesn't play any of them anymore.  :'(
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Post by: Mr. Gundam on February 01, 2013, 02:45:53 PM
There are tons of kids I work with who are massively obsessed with Minecraft.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Great Rumbler on February 01, 2013, 02:47:05 PM
For reference, Mojang had more than twice as much revenue in 2012 as Rovio [makers of Angry Birds] had in 2011.

And $40 million more than Rovio is projected to make in 2012.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Stoney Mason on February 01, 2013, 03:13:19 PM
Quote from: Mr. Gundam on February 01, 2013, 02:45:53 PM
There are tons of kids I work with who are massively obsessed with Minecraft.

I think the main thing is how many adults actually play the game. More people who use to be in my battlefield 3 platoon play more Minecraft than Battlefield on 360 at this point.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Mr. Gundam on February 01, 2013, 03:18:20 PM
I talk with lots of teenagers who play nothing but Minecraft. Like, a ridiculous amount of Minecraft. It puts my college Counterstrike obsession to shame.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: archie4208 on February 01, 2013, 03:31:49 PM
Minecraft is a legitimate social phenomenon.  It's our younger relative's Super Mario Bros.

Too bad I don't "get" the game.  :'(

I get why people like it, but I don't have any creativity so it isn't for me.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Mr. Gundam on February 01, 2013, 03:33:33 PM
Huh. My 18-year old nephew plays nothing but Dark Souls these days. I asked him about Minecraft, and he didn't even know what it was. Go figure.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: ToxicAdam on February 01, 2013, 03:49:20 PM
I think part of why Minecraft works so well is that there is a mysterious element about it. Much like those NES games of yore, it's not all spelled out for you. So, you have to go digging to find answers about how the game works and how you can create certain things. There's that word of mouth aspect of it that many games don't have.

Plus, at it's core, it's just Legos without all the messy cleanup afterwords.



Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: hampster on February 01, 2013, 03:52:33 PM
Minecraft is the only game I can remember hearing people talk about in public (not counting stuff heard in gamestop)

It's amazing how big it's gotten. I wonder how well Terraria has done. 2D Pixel Graphics :bow2 The console version is out this month. I was pretty excited for local co-op until my PS3 died. Hopefully it comes to the wii u. I already own it on PC and put a few hours into it
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Dickie Dee on February 01, 2013, 03:56:07 PM
still don't actually get it. i'd like to get it for my phone and tinker with it but i don't even know what i'm supposed to be tinkering with.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Tasty on February 01, 2013, 04:41:38 PM
Quote from: Mr. Gundam on February 01, 2013, 03:33:33 PM
Huh. My 18-year old nephew plays nothing but Dark Souls these days. I asked him about Minecraft, and he didn't even know what it was. Go figure.

Is he into hunting monsters?
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Mr. Gundam on February 01, 2013, 04:56:33 PM
Quote from: Andrex on February 01, 2013, 04:41:38 PM
Quote from: Mr. Gundam on February 01, 2013, 03:33:33 PM
Huh. My 18-year old nephew plays nothing but Dark Souls these days. I asked him about Minecraft, and he didn't even know what it was. Go figure.

Is he into hunting monsters?

Nope. He has a PSP but doesn't seem to care about Monster Hunter. He still plays Pokemon, though.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Tasty on February 01, 2013, 05:47:30 PM
:bow
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Mr. Gundam on February 01, 2013, 06:35:51 PM
Quote from: Andrex on February 01, 2013, 05:47:30 PM
:bow

He also bought a Vita with Christmas money and loves it.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Tasty on February 01, 2013, 06:42:22 PM
:piss
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Joe Molotov on February 01, 2013, 08:18:38 PM
:bow
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: mjemirzian on February 01, 2013, 09:05:06 PM
Quote from: Zero Hero on February 01, 2013, 02:33:26 PM
I've bought Minecraft for the PC, 360, and ios for my son.
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He doesn't play any of them anymore.  :'(
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I've got terrible news for you. Your son might be
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Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on February 01, 2013, 09:26:01 PM
If I didn't have a job, I'd be playing shitloads of Minecraft in my free time.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Stoney Mason on February 03, 2013, 02:08:20 PM
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While physical retail software sales appear to have trailed off at this stage in the  Xbox 360′s life cycle, XBLA has reportedly experienced its strongest year yet in 2012. According to the Research and Analysis division of Forecasting & Analyzing Digital Entertainment, LLC (FADE), the XBLA marketplace saw revenues of $290 million, doubling its reported revenue from the previous year.

Three games in particular were clearly behind this strong performance. It’s perhaps no surprise that Minecraft leads the pack, agonizingly close to the 5 million sales mark with 4,997,000 unit sales, translating to a gross revenue of $97,388,000.

In second place, Trials Evolution shifted 1,002,000 units for a gross revenue of $14,298,000. Similarly, the XBLA version of Telltale’s The Walking Dead generated $10,277,000 in gross revenue from 2,615,000 unit sales.

The remaining seven games in FADE’s top 10 don’t quite reach the lofty heights of the aforementioned, all of them posting between 300,000 and 200,000 unit sales. It’s interesting to note, however, older games like 2008′s Castle Crashers and 2009′s Trials HD continue to enjoy relatively strong sales.

FADE’s top 10 XBLA titles in 2012 are as follows, ordered by gross revenues:

Minecraft (4J Studios) – 4,997,000 units/$97,388,000
Trials Evolution (RedLynx, LTD) – 1,002,000 units/$14,298,000
The Walking Dead (Telltale Games) – 2,615,000 units/$10,277,000
Counter-Strike: Global Offensive (Valve) – 273,000/$3,973,000
Castle Crashers (The Behemoth) – 252,000 units/$3,778,000
Gotham City Impostors (Monolith Productions) – 258,000 units/$3,698,000
I Am Alive (Ubisoft) – 245,000 units/$3,609,000
Tony Hawk’s Pro Skater HD (Robomodo) – 226,000 units/$3,261,000
Alan Wake’s American Nightmare (Remedy Entertainment) – 206,000 units/$2,903,000
Trials HD (RedLynx, LTD) – 203,000/$2,799,000
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Don Flamenco on February 03, 2013, 02:11:29 PM
Castle Crashers is ridiculous.  It's been in the top 10/20 since it's release and continues to do that on any console it's ported to.  Those guys announced another game, but I have a feeling they're having fun sitting back being multi-millionaires, porting Castle Crashers at their leisure (or hiring others to do it.) 
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on February 03, 2013, 02:12:47 PM
VG Chartzzzz,Stoney
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Stoney Mason on February 03, 2013, 02:17:47 PM
Quote from: maxy on February 03, 2013, 02:12:47 PM
VG Chartzzzz,Stoney
Is it? Didn't know. Sorry about that. Just quickly glanced at a GAF thread.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on February 03, 2013, 02:22:53 PM
I blame gaf.
:P
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Great Rumbler on February 03, 2013, 02:44:03 PM
FADE is separate from VGChartzzz, but it's basically just a spin-off doing essentially the same thing.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Steve Youngblood on February 03, 2013, 03:33:12 PM
Just as a dumb question because I didn't follow things that closely then, but what's the story surrounding VGChartz? I know referencing them is a no-no, but why specifically? I assume it's because of inaccuracies, but are the inaccuracies a result of just not having all the right information and making best-guesses in good faith with what they do have, or do they just pull numbers out of their ass and post them simply because they know people like having hard numbers to look at even though they're wrong? Basically, I'm wondering if legitimate fans of sales statistics dislike them simply because the numbers aren't reliably sourced and can't be validated, or because they are perceived to be charlatans?
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Stoney Mason on February 03, 2013, 03:45:28 PM
Quote from: Steve Youngblood on February 03, 2013, 03:33:12 PM
Basically, I'm wondering if legitimate fans of sales statistics dislike them simply because the numbers aren't reliably sourced and can't be validated, or because they are perceived to be charlatans?
I believe it's a bit of both. They use to have a "system" where they polled a certain number of stores with their "contacts" and then extrapolated numbers from that but it was often insanely inaccurate so whenever real numbers were released or leaked they would change the numbers to match those.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on February 03, 2013, 03:51:28 PM
How much does it cost for an NPD game sales subscription?
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Positive Touch on February 03, 2013, 04:32:36 PM
WAY more than a person could afford iirc
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Great Rumbler on February 03, 2013, 06:04:46 PM
Here's how VGChartzzz gets its numbers:

1. Call a few stores and ask about sales
2. Ask people on forums what they bought
3. Extrapolate those numbers to the entire country
4. Alter their site's numbers based on NPD and publisher shipped numbers
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Tasty on February 03, 2013, 06:11:54 PM
Quote from: The Experiment on February 03, 2013, 03:51:28 PM
How much does it cost for an NPD game sales subscription?

Like $20k or something? Last time I checked.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Steve Youngblood on February 03, 2013, 06:27:12 PM
Quote from: Great Rumbler on February 03, 2013, 06:04:46 PM
Here's how VGChartzzz gets its numbers:

1. Call a few stores and ask about sales
2. Ask people on forums what they bought
3. Extrapolate those numbers to the entire country
4. Alter their site's numbers based on NPD and publisher shipped numbers

Should one be equally as skeptical about their historic sales data? I assume it can't be trusted as anywhere close to 100% accurate, but are those figures too just pure BS?
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Positive Touch on February 03, 2013, 07:10:22 PM
who are the people that run that shit site? do they actually make money off that or do they do this bullshit in their free time?
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Tasty on February 03, 2013, 07:16:46 PM
Quote from: Positive Touch on February 03, 2013, 07:10:22 PM
who are the people that run that shit site? do they actually make money off that or do they do this bullshit in their free time?

It has ads out the wazzoo so they're probably making a killing.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Joe Molotov on February 03, 2013, 07:44:44 PM
The ZZZ's make it legit.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Tasty on February 03, 2013, 08:06:17 PM
Quote from: Joe Molotov on February 03, 2013, 07:44:44 PM
The ZZZ's make it legit.

Oddly it used to be "vgcharts.org," I have no idea why he'd change it to something much less legit sounding.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: AdmiralViscen on February 03, 2013, 08:09:17 PM
Fuck ioi, that guy was a shitbrick before NPD stopped giving numbers.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: HyperZoneWasAwesome on February 03, 2013, 11:02:41 PM
many times I've seen VGChartz sourced in mainstream news articles, I'm guessing because even USA Today (or whatever) doesn't have a better source to go to.
Which is kinda nuts, of course.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Shaka Khan on February 03, 2013, 11:22:06 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on February 03, 2013, 06:38:46 PM
... then they're probably accurate minus ioi's tendency to add an arbitrary percentage to Nintendo games (he feels the official tracking services lowball them).

Fucking ninthings and their chronic persecutory delusions.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Momo on February 04, 2013, 12:07:03 AM
Quote from: HyperZoneWasAwesome on February 03, 2013, 11:02:41 PM
many times I've seen VGChartz sourced in mainstream news articles, I'm guessing because even USA Today (or whatever) doesn't have a better source to go to.
Which is kinda nuts, of course.
My former boss, bless his gullible heart came at me with chartz sales numbers. I informed him why reading the back of a cereal box and picking a number at random would be more beneficial than what he is doing, he seemed to understand but the following month he came back with those same numbers and I was like " :-\ " and he was like "there are no other sources" and I was like "there is no milk in the canteen but you wont catch me drinking cyanide". The work I've done in the gaming industry has left me baffled by how little actual intelligence there is going around and I'm glad that I have moved on :-/
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Van Cruncheon on February 04, 2013, 02:06:11 AM
right, the accuracy of the data is irrelevant. it just needs to be roundabouts the ballpark so they can present to investors and have a vague sort of sourced strategy on the books
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Himu on February 04, 2013, 02:14:12 AM
Android.

I mean, Andrex.

I swear I did not type android on purpose.

Give me a hug.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on February 04, 2013, 03:30:07 AM
http://www.capcom.co.jp/ir/english/news/html/e130204b.html

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Capcom Co., Ltd. would like to announce that net sales increased to 72,699 million yen (up 44.6% from the same term last year) in the 9 months of fiscal year ending March 31, 2013. As for profits, operating income increased to 9,838 million yen (up 45.9 % from the same term last year), and ordinary income increased to 10,054 million yen (up 72.6 % from the same term last year). Net income for the current period increased to 6,645 million yen (up 104.9 % from the same term last year).
- Resident Evil 6: 4.8 million (up from 4.5 million initial shipment -- New RE6 Forecast: 5 million)

Capcom: "the flagship title "Resident Evil 6" (for PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360), despite recording brisk sales when it debuted, subsequently lost its momentum, resulting in the failure to achieve planned sales and fulfill its role as a driver of sales expansion."

- Resident Evil 5: 6 million (up from 5.9 million)

- DMC: Devil May Cry forecast: 1.2 million units

- Dragon's Dogma: 1.3 million (up from 1.2 million)

- Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate for Wii U and 3DS (budget) were also very successful.

- Resident Evil 5 Pachinko Slot Machine in Japan: 35,000 units sold

- Operation Raccoon City sold an extra 650,000 units in North America and Europe in FY2012.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Himu on February 04, 2013, 03:34:45 AM
Quote from: maxy on February 04, 2013, 03:30:07 AM

Capcom: "the flagship title "Resident Evil 6" (for PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360), despite recording brisk sales when it debuted, subsequently lost its momentum, resulting in the failure to achieve planned sales and fulfill its role as a driver of sales expansion."


:bow
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on February 04, 2013, 03:44:38 AM
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Additionally, the "Monster Hunter Frontier Online" series has remained a perennial favorite and has continued to bring in stable income.

DMC forecast...1.2 mill

Amusement Equipments sales are up 250%

console gaming lol
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on February 04, 2013, 05:36:10 AM
http://www.chart-track.co.uk/index.jsp?c=p/software/uk/latest/index_test.jsp&ct=110032
http://www.chart-track.co.uk/index.jsp?c=p/software/uk/latest/index_test.jsp&ct=110015

NI NO KUNI is number one,PS3 fans rejoice

One interesting thing
Skylanders Giants(Wii) is new entry at number 36(unit charts),no other versions in sight.But on all format chart,game sits at number 15.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on February 04, 2013, 05:57:52 AM
Wow Ni No Kuni looks so pretty
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on February 04, 2013, 06:08:46 AM
About 500 units difference between JRPG and Fifa.
Fifa was bellow 20k last week.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on February 04, 2013, 06:24:00 AM
Interesting info on CD Projekt and the Witcher:

2011 Profit: 23,96 mln (5.8 million euro)
 
2012 Q1, Q2, Q3 profit: 19,59 mln (4.9 million euro)

They are saying that when the numbers roll in for Q4 that will make 2012 their best year ever.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: originalz on February 04, 2013, 06:41:26 AM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on February 04, 2013, 01:12:39 AM
basically, the exact numbers are going to be fluff for those types of places anyway.  they're not going to pay the ridic cost of an NPD subscription for that, and NPD doesn't really release any useful information anymore.  so they go to ioi, because, well, even if he's wrong, he sounds like he's not, and that's really the important thing in journalism.

Shit, I hope that VGChartzzzz ends up being the place to go to, give the NPD some competition with the way they protect their numbers, they keep getting more and more paranoid.  Like giving out a few numbers for a few titles for message board users and the press is going to discourage someone for buying the subscription, people who get that are probably more interested in the additional detailed data that it comes with.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Don Flamenco on February 04, 2013, 09:22:12 AM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on February 04, 2013, 04:24:31 AM
The whole thing's been a master class in PR disaster from the very beginning all the way until release.  I'd like to think this would help disavow some people of the myth that there's no such thing as bad PR, but that's probably entirely too optimistic.


I agree.  I don't think the game really deserves to sell millions anyway.  Interesting experiment, but they still ended up with a game with worse combat and less enjoyable cut scenes-- even if DMC is awkward japaneseness, DmC's angry western teen vibe is actually a bit more embarrassing. 

Not a bad game but a bad DMC game for sure.  They could've called it an experimental spin-off or something and left the door open for both series to grow.  The whole "convincing us that DmC is a necessary game" PR angle was the worst thing they could've done.  Don't acknowledge your community, only to treat them like idiots.  There are too many tards in the game industry that don't understand basic diplomacy.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: treythemovie on February 04, 2013, 09:36:01 AM
Quote from: Van Cruncheon on February 04, 2013, 02:06:11 AM
right, the accuracy of the data is irrelevant. it just needs to be roundabouts the ballpark so they can present to investors and have a vague sort of sourced strategy on the books
It's the same phenomena that causes metacritic to have such a strong influence on the industry. Companies need quantitative information to justify business decisions, even if the data only has a dubious, or rather nonexistent connection to reality.

Quote from: originalz on February 04, 2013, 06:41:26 AM
Shit, I hope that VGChartzzzz ends up being the place to go to, give the NPD some competition with the way they protect their numbers, they keep getting more and more paranoid.  Like giving out a few numbers for a few titles for message board users and the press is going to discourage someone for buying the subscription, people who get that are probably more interested in the additional detailed data that it comes with.
NPD doesn't give a fuck about VGcharts. The people who use it are games and small companies that could never afford NPD's subscription anyways. I doubt NPD has had a single subscriber go "Oh we have VGchartz now, guess we don't have to pay that 20k anymore!"

NPD's real fear is the growing chunk of digital consumption that they're unable to effectively extrapolate. Now that terrifies them. Still doesn't mean you're going to get any additional data from them, unless they get to the point of desperation that they just want to get more google links or something, haha.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Raban on February 04, 2013, 01:38:50 PM
Quote from: maxy on February 04, 2013, 03:30:07 AM
Resident Evil 6: 4.8 million (up from 4.5 million initial shipment -- New RE6 Forecast: 5 million)

Capcom: "the flagship title "Resident Evil 6" (for PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360), despite recording brisk sales when it debuted, subsequently lost its momentum, resulting in the failure to achieve planned sales and fulfill its role as a driver of sales expansion."


What a goddamn shame. I hope the game succeeds in its PC release.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Don Flamenco on February 04, 2013, 02:05:23 PM
doesn't seem like much of a shame by a lot of people's impressions.  I haven't played it yet, but prob day 1 on PC if I can get a deep GMG discount down to $33 like DmC
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Raban on February 04, 2013, 02:15:53 PM
*shrug* I really enjoyed it, especially playing it with my friends. I didn't have any expectations going in and it ended up being this really epic (and I mean literally epic, as in, it's a fucking huge game) third person shooter unlike any I've played. The shooting and melee was a lot of fun, and I didn't think it ever got stale because it focused so hard on keeping you moving to different locales and fighting different enemies. Admittedly, not everything works--a large portion of Jake's campaign is total ass-- but considering the massive scale of the game I can forgive it.

If you get it on PC, hit me up on Steam and I'll be happy to bro-op with you. I have a feeling I'll be playing it a lot.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on February 05, 2013, 05:14:37 AM
http://www.vg247.com/2013/02/05/square-enix-financials-%C2%A55-7b-loss-amid-increasingly-difficult-console-market/

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Square-Enix had a strong run of IP last year, but its latest financial report makes for uneasy reading. The Japanese firm has published a loss of ¥5.7 billion for the nine-month period ended December 31st 2012, and cites the increasingly difficult console market as a key factor.


- Year-on-year profits are up ¥5 billion for the nine-year period ended December 31st 2012.

- The company’s financial project for the end of year is ¥3.5 billion, which is down 42.2% year-on-year. The company is still banking on big sales of Tomb Raider.

- Game sales were positive for the period, up ¥95.7 billion to ¥102.7 billion.

- Square-Enix cites, “the increasingly difficult condition of the world-wide console game market” as a key issue in its financial report.

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It’s an about-face for the company, which posted a ¥5 billion profit year-on-year for the previous period, begging questions about the console market’s volatility in the run-up to next-gen formats.

Although profits were down, game sales were up from ¥95.7 billion to ¥102.7 billion, in a year that saw Hitman: Absolution, Final Fantasy XIII-2 and Sleeping Dogs go to market. It also published Call of Duty: Black Ops 2 in Japan, to no avail.

The company still has high hopes for its year-end financial report – presumably as Tomb Raider has yet to launch – with its net profit projection sitting at ¥3.5 billion, which is a 42.2% year-on-year decrease. Still, black is better than red.

In a statement issued this morning – via GI.biz – Square-Enix discussed its slumping financials:

“During the nine-month period ended December 31, 2012, the Company has not recovered the operating loss posted in the six-month period ended September 30, 2012. [This is] primarily due to the increasingly difficult condition of the world-wide console game market, under which the Group is struggling to achieve a fair expected return on its investment.

“On the other hand, content for other platforms such as PCs, smartphones and SNS such as ‘Sengoku Ixa,’ a browser game, and ‘Final Fantasy Brigade,’ a social networking game for Mobage, are generating an acceptable profit.

“In addition, newly released game titles, such as ‘Kaku-San-Sei Million Arthur,’ a social networking game released in April, 2012 serving more than 1 million registered users, have been expanding at a satisfactory pace. Registered users of Final Fantasy Artniks,’ a social networking game released in November, 2012 for Gree, exceeded 1 million at the end of December, 2012.”

bu bu bu console market is doing fine,PS3 is about to hit its stride

If PS4/720 don't start selling millions of software units right out of the bat,gaming industry as we know it today is finished*.

First comment
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All of this happened because they didn’t trust and invested on PS3 brand.
:rofl


*It's probably dead already,it just doesn't know it yet
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Damian79 on February 05, 2013, 05:16:09 AM
Something Something Square Enix shoudl seppuku gaijin BS.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on February 05, 2013, 06:26:02 AM
Yeah they are playing it smart in smartphone/Edios stuff.

Not sure what to think about FF,what will happen to Versus?Next/last gen game?Renamed to FF15?

total mess
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on February 05, 2013, 06:27:40 AM
I doubt Versus has existed for a long time.  A lot of the concepts probably got rolled into games like Type 0, XIII-2, and XIII-3.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Raban on February 05, 2013, 08:46:14 AM
:bow

wrasslin' zombies, slide tackle, kick-ass boss fights
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on February 05, 2013, 08:47:28 AM
Since IGN posted this shit today,

Some dude on gaf posted this like a week ago in some Orbis circle jerk thread

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It's a new IP for definite. I don't want to say more than that because we're only a few months away and it'll be much more impressive to have a full reveal. It'd be unfair to GG, and this is going to be a really huge event for them. Plus I know very little, and it's no point putting it out there. It' be more detrimental than anything else. I can tell you it's not like Killzone.

I can spill the following comfortably though since I think this developer is a bit of a joke, and I think people are beginning to suspect this anyway. Versus XIII will have another unveiling later this year regarding development for the next generation. It won't have the "Versus XIII" part in the title. It will definitely release in 2014. You can have my account deleted if this information turns out to be inaccurate. News is fresh on this and I'm really confident about it. FF15 and FF16 are underway, both next generation projects. There's a chance FF15, in particular, may be an exclusive release. Kind of. And with that, I'm off to sleep.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Don Flamenco on February 05, 2013, 11:25:47 AM
i don't know what final fantasy XV and XVI will be fought with, but FFXVII will be fought with F2P microtransactions.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Himu on February 05, 2013, 11:44:28 AM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on February 04, 2013, 06:04:43 AM
That's either a testament to how starved the audience is for console JRPGs

god i hope it's this
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: mjemirzian on February 05, 2013, 01:44:21 PM
With NG3 and DmC both falling flat on their faces in search of GoW level sales, will Japanese devs stop trying to westernize their franchises?
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: tiesto on February 05, 2013, 01:59:41 PM
Quote from: mjemirzian on February 05, 2013, 01:44:21 PM
With NG3 and DmC both falling flat on their faces in search of GoW level sales, will Japanese devs stop trying to westernize their franchises?

I think they're already stopping this... Tales producer Hideo Baba has said on multiple occasions that Namco Bandai is going this route, and you have the whole "Japanese Hamburger" comment from Hayashi on NG3... Capcom and SE haven't gotten the memo yet though :P
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Positive Touch on February 05, 2013, 02:30:40 PM
if you think this means they'll go back to producing japanese-centered games with the same budgets then (http://i.imgur.com/4YFlCD7.png)
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Himu on February 05, 2013, 02:58:17 PM

http://www.vg247.com/2013/02/05/square-enix-financials-%C2%A55-7b-loss-amid-increasingly-difficult-console-market/

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Square-Enix had a strong run of IP last year, but its latest financial report makes for uneasy reading. The Japanese firm has published a loss of ¥5.7 billion for the nine-month period ended December 31st 2012, and cites the increasingly difficult console market as a key factor.


- Year-on-year profits are up ¥5 billion for the nine-year period ended December 31st 2012.

- The company’s financial project for the end of year is ¥3.5 billion, which is down 42.2% year-on-year. The company is still banking on big sales of Tomb Raider.

- Game sales were positive for the period, up ¥95.7 billion to ¥102.7 billion.

- Square-Enix cites, “the increasingly difficult condition of the world-wide console game market” as a key issue in its financial report.

Quote
It’s an about-face for the company, which posted a ¥5 billion profit year-on-year for the previous period, begging questions about the console market’s volatility in the run-up to next-gen formats.

Although profits were down, game sales were up from ¥95.7 billion to ¥102.7 billion, in a year that saw Hitman: Absolution, Final Fantasy XIII-2 and Sleeping Dogs go to market. It also published Call of Duty: Black Ops 2 in Japan, to no avail.

The company still has high hopes for its year-end financial report – presumably as Tomb Raider has yet to launch – with its net profit projection sitting at ¥3.5 billion, which is a 42.2% year-on-year decrease. Still, black is better than red.

In a statement issued this morning – via GI.biz – Square-Enix discussed its slumping financials:

“During the nine-month period ended December 31, 2012, the Company has not recovered the operating loss posted in the six-month period ended September 30, 2012. [This is] primarily due to the increasingly difficult condition of the world-wide console game market, under which the Group is struggling to achieve a fair expected return on its investment.

“On the other hand, content for other platforms such as PCs, smartphones and SNS such as ‘Sengoku Ixa,’ a browser game, and ‘Final Fantasy Brigade,’ a social networking game for Mobage, are generating an acceptable profit.

“In addition, newly released game titles, such as ‘Kaku-San-Sei Million Arthur,’ a social networking game released in April, 2012 serving more than 1 million registered users, have been expanding at a satisfactory pace. Registered users of Final Fantasy Artniks,’ a social networking game released in November, 2012 for Gree, exceeded 1 million at the end of December, 2012.”

LOL
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Don Flamenco on February 05, 2013, 03:23:30 PM
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The company is still banking on big sales of Tomb Raider.


 :-\  it's like when you know the dog is gonna die in the movie...
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Father_Brain on February 05, 2013, 03:37:55 PM
Prediction: after FFXIV bombs a second time and Agni's Philosophy/FFXV/FFvXIII/whatever the first next-gen FF is underperforms, SE Japan will definitively exit the AAA console market.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: archie4208 on February 05, 2013, 04:15:50 PM
SE should quit pussyfooting and go ahead and make FFXIV F2P.  We all know it's inevitable 6-9 months after launch anyway.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on February 05, 2013, 04:24:43 PM
They should just do a proper 3d remake of 7 to get some goodwill back and try to revive the ff franchise which has lost relevance.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on February 05, 2013, 05:01:17 PM
People on gaf are so dense. There is a thread where they say MS needs to make xbl gold more fully featured in europe just like in the us.

What they fail to understand that its not ms holding shit like netflix back but legal issues. MS cant make it bettet cause it relies on these companies.

That said ms needs to make xbl gold free in europe cause there is no reason to pay for it here since there are no services behind the paywall.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on February 05, 2013, 05:38:39 PM
Take Two third quarter FY2012-2013 results

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Management Comments

“Take-Two’s positive business momentum continued in the third quarter, enabling us to deliver growth and profits that exceeded our outlook,” said Strauss Zelnick, Chairman and CEO of Take-Two. “Our results benefited from the record-breaking launch of NBA 2K13, along with continued strong demand for Borderlands 2, the successful launch of XCOM: Enemy Unknown, and robust holiday sales of our catalog and growing portfolio of digitally delivered offerings. With consumer anticipation building for the launches of BioShock Infinite and Grand Theft Auto V, we are well positioned for a solid finish to fiscal year 2013 and substantial revenue and earnings growth in fiscal year 2014.

“I am also pleased to report that our Board of Directors has authorized the Company to return capital to shareholders through the repurchase of its common stock. Given our strong balance sheet and favorable business outlook in both the short and long-term, we have ample capital to pursue a variety of investment opportunities.”
http://ir.take2games.com/phoenix.zhtml?c=86428&p=irol-newsArticle&ID=1781747&highlight=
(http://www.gamescharts.fr/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/taketwoq3c1g.png)

BL2 is 6 million

Earnings Call Info,iMax dude

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Q: Talk about GTA's move from Spring to September and how is relates to coming next-gen consoles.
A: GTA stands alone. It's a unique IP. We're all excited about it. We think it's gonna blow people away at a level people don't anticipate. The delay is required to deliver what people expect. September's an open field and a great window. For next gen, nothing's been announced yet, but assuming new consoles are coming, it'll be a light install base initially. I'm sure we'll have an extraordinary array of next-gen offerings.

Q: MLB 2K. Profitable release?
A: Range of losses were announced based on a inherited legacy deal ($30mil). Expectations of a new release reflect a new deal. We're optimistic and enthusiastic both creatively and financially.

Q: GTA V. How should we think about post-sale revenue compared to previous GTA? Full game downloads: primarily from Steam? How does this differ from retail?
A: Couldn't be more enthusiastic about GTA. Full game downloads come from many places: Steam, etc...

Q: Next-gen. Allegedly more focused on media than games. How does this impact you?
A: If that happens. I'd be happy to debate if they will become set top boxes or not. Our job is to make high quality entertainment and meet consumers on their devices, whilst being flexible with business models. Broad based models on next-gen is probably a good thing. Also, they'll be more likely to penetrate than they are now.

Q: Basketball franchises/Borderlands 2. Help us understand the attach rate you're getting.
A: We don't talk about attach rates. Every year, Visual Concepts try to make NBA 2K even better, this year 90+ Metacritic, multi-plat experience, in game purchases. This all means happy consumers, spending more money, making more money. Same with Borderlands. We want to give consumers more value than what they paid for.

Q: Great property coming up in March (BioShock). How do you view retail in 3-6 months and how is pre-order activity?
A: Retail landscape interesting, go back 9 months, things were looking bleak, people were saying it's in decline. We denied this. Like all entertainment business, our industry relies on hits, and it's affected by changing console cycles (we're heading into the end of one). We have the highest expectations for BioShock.

Q: Digital: Your success in digital, how is the margin profile looking against retail? What opportunities are there in creating ongoing relationships with customers, e.g. Season Pass?
A: The margins are pretty much in line with retail, but time to time this changes based on the title, usually a better digital margin. Our properties have been standard bearers for this, e.g. Borderlands, GTA. We see the lifecycle extending greatly and we'll continue to experiment. With tablets becoming bigger, episodic approaches may increase too. We're flexible. We'll try anything that delights consumers so long as it aligns with our high quality.

Q: What are you thinking about next-gen development budgets with key titles, e.g. sports.
A: We don't believe budgets will change significantly, if anything, group wide, our spending will become tighter. Can't go into specifics though.

Q: Install base today is large, 360/PS3 will continue to be major influencers, similar to prior transition, I'm sure there will be cross-generational software post-launch. How do you go about developing for both current and next-gen when clearly development teams want to be innovating but clearly there's a tradeoff to accommodate for current install base?
A: We can't talk about next-gen. We're not the ones to talk about if first. We're all excited about the possibilities and working diligently on them. 4 elements of transition success: 1) strong IP, 2) strong teams, 3) strong tech, 4) strong balance sheet. We have all four.

Q: Facebook is developing for core gamers, does this reset your opinion?
A: Facebook is incredible serving hundreds of millions of people, could be a great platform.

Q: I'm hearing current-gen portability is easier. Philosophically, you see Bungie doing a dual-gen approach, not going specific, if you had the opportunity to do a dual-gen launch?
A: There is not one gamer who will sit out GTA V hoping that there will be something better down the line. GTA V will blow everyone away. We have to wait for announcements. We're always looking over a shoulder. We're planning as well as we can and we think we are well positioned.

Q: Ouya, Valve - lots of people trying to create new solutions. Where do you see the best opportunity?
A: All of the above. We go with the audience. We don't spend resources unless there's a demonstrated audience. We've always been willing to support meaningful initiatives without a large install base. We will be wherever the consumers are.

Q: Timing on NBA expansion into Taiwan/Philippines, different demographics across tablets.
A: We haven't seen meaningful differences across tablet purchases, not sure we can read into it that well. Still in early experimentation mode. We haven't spoken about expanding into other territories, always balancing opportunity with risk. Encouraged by what we're seeing in Asia.

Q: How is NBA 2K online doing in Asia?
A: We're pleased with the tracking in China. We don't have anything at this point to say on further rollout.

Q: On digital delivery, you mention it represents 23% of net revenue. Where is most of this coming from?
A: Borderlands 2/NBA 2K13 for this quarter, and the rest of the catalogue.

Event over! Most of the above is paraphrased/written very briefly, so don't read much into the phrasing! :)

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"Are full game downloads primarily because of Steam?"

"Full game downloads come from an array of places including Steam. They're slightly higher than others but not significantly so."



There goes my theory for next gen GTAV :(

But I think they have something
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on February 05, 2013, 05:52:39 PM
They also released gta on the og xbox as an upgrade to the ps2 games maxy, gtav enhanced edition will be there man. But i think this will mean pc version would be even later then.

They will announce ps4/720/pc version but delay the pc version by 3/6 months just before release somewhere in 2014.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on February 05, 2013, 06:19:56 PM
(http://www.abload.de/img/capturegvkrb.png)

Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Don Flamenco on February 05, 2013, 06:33:29 PM
Quote from: tiesto on February 05, 2013, 01:59:41 PM
Quote from: mjemirzian on February 05, 2013, 01:44:21 PM
With NG3 and DmC both falling flat on their faces in search of GoW level sales, will Japanese devs stop trying to westernize their franchises?

I think they're already stopping this... Tales producer Hideo Baba has said on multiple occasions that Namco Bandai is going this route, and you have the whole "Japanese Hamburger" comment from Hayashi on NG3... Capcom and SE haven't gotten the memo yet though :P

thank fucking god they're talking about it and acknowledging it as a disastrous way to go.  Japanese devs and publishers as a whole have wasted a lot of time this past gen doing this crap.  they're just not gonna get a taste of the dudebro pie if they ditch their identity. 

It all started with Bomberman: Act Zero.  :lol


Quote from: archie4208 on February 05, 2013, 04:15:50 PM
SE should quit pussyfooting and go ahead and make FFXIV F2P.  We all know it's inevitable 6-9 months after launch anyway.


It took the failure of the first version of the game to push them to a more WoW-style MMO, so they're not hip to F2P yet.  But they will be soon, like anyone else, unless Final Fantasy has its own built in fanbase to keep the game populated.




Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Himu on February 05, 2013, 06:42:43 PM
Quote from: Premium Lager on February 05, 2013, 05:52:39 PM
They also released gta on the og xbox as an upgrade to the ps2 games maxy, gtav enhanced edition will be there man. But i think this will mean pc version would be even later then.

They will announce ps4/720/pc version but delay the pc version by 3/6 months just before release somewhere in 2014.

A better version of a port of a game released within the same gen is not the same as releasing a better version of a game on next gen consoles. ??? Xbox was last gen, not this gen. More than that, Xbox versions of GTAIII trilogy came out later than the pc versions. Rockstar will not release a next gen version of GTAV.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on February 05, 2013, 06:51:31 PM
Quote
Rockstar will not release a next gen version of GTAV
Lies.

They will surely have DLC at some point and without the main game they can't sell it on next gen.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Himu on February 05, 2013, 07:03:36 PM
(http://www.the-coli.com/images/smilies/ufdup.png) If they release a next gen version it won't have a graphic upgrade.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: pilonv1 on February 05, 2013, 07:54:41 PM
They could do this

Sept 2013 - PS3/360
March/May 2014 - PC/next gen
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Himu on February 05, 2013, 07:59:51 PM
Did they do that with 360 and ps3 with gta3 trilogy? Nope. There is no precedent for this. Why do you guys think this would even happen. They are just now putting GTAIII, VC, and SA on psn.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Third on February 06, 2013, 08:35:42 AM
New MC

(http://i229.photobucket.com/albums/ee137/aranathos/mc_060213_zps2f392538.jpg)

PSP WiiU Vita sandwich soon?
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Great Rumbler on February 06, 2013, 09:19:05 AM
Everything is dead in Japan, except the 3DS.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on February 06, 2013, 12:29:11 PM
http://www.segasammy.co.jp/english/pdf/release/1303_3q_pre_eigo_final_130206.pdf

(http://www.abload.de/img/segaq311suum.png)
(http://www.abload.de/img/segaq32mfukj.png)
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: archie4208 on February 06, 2013, 02:24:23 PM
I wonder how much Football Manager costs to make.  I'm sure licensing is expensive, but the actual development can't be over $20 and a turkey sandwich.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: pilonv1 on February 06, 2013, 07:52:39 PM
FM Handheld is probably pretty cheap, PC version will have some expense but not a great deal. They usually don't do complete re-writes so they're reusing stuff every year. The match engine is constantly updated though, but they're usually incremental (but still excellent) updates.

I wouldn't be surprised if some of the licencing doesn't cost them as they get exposure that they wouldn't usually get.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on February 07, 2013, 03:28:49 AM
http://www.sony.net/SonyInfo/IR/financial/fr/12q3_sony.pdf
http://www.sony.net/SonyInfo/IR/financial/fr/12q3_sonypre.pdf

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Sony Corporation (Reported in Millions of U.S. dollars)

Sales ---> $22,391


Operating Income ---> $534

Net Loss ---> $124

-------------------------------------------

Game (Reported in Millions of U.S. dollars)

Sales ---> $3,086

Operating Income ---> $53

(http://www.sony.net/SonyInfo/IR/financial/fr/viewer/12q3/slide/image/15_image.jpg)

I guess PS3 *goes* back to the third place.

PSP/Vita FC down to 7 million(16 originally,10 million last quarter).
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on February 07, 2013, 04:52:44 AM
Year of the PS3 profit :bow2
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on February 07, 2013, 04:56:48 AM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on February 07, 2013, 04:36:19 AM
Game business is turning an okay profit, too bad it's not enough to staunch the bleeding.

Did you see over 40000 yen PS4 price "report"?

If true,what do you think,how would Japanese market respond to that?

 
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Momo on February 07, 2013, 06:30:03 AM
There is bank to be made in selling a console at a higher price around October then dropping it to a more reasonable price late November/ early December
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on February 07, 2013, 11:00:30 AM
So about the same as West,I think.Anything above $400 is just pushing luck.

Ubisoft results
https://www.ubisoftgroup.com/comsite_common/en-US/images/Ubisoft%20Q3%20FY13%20Englishtcm9982637.pdf
(http://www.abload.de/img/odhkv5.png)
(http://www.abload.de/img/oypkx6.png)

hmm :)

Vita>3DS
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: hampster on February 07, 2013, 11:07:44 AM
In other news Assassins Creed 3: :usacry subtitle confirmed for a fall release
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on February 07, 2013, 11:16:35 AM
(http://www.abload.de/img/ubireleased9zje.png)

well
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: cool breeze on February 07, 2013, 11:21:47 AM
people also found that Rayman Legends Wii U was delayed (again?) to September (?)

...and that Rayman Legends is now coming to 360 and PS3

Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Steve Youngblood on February 07, 2013, 11:33:12 AM
In regards to that Sega Sammy post above, Sonic All Stars Racing ended up doing decently? Almost a million sales? That's good, right? I only ask because I hope they make more games in that series, but Oscar sounded really down on the November numbers. Is that figure better than you were anticipating based on the November numbers, or are they just spinning here?
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Don Flamenco on February 07, 2013, 11:37:54 AM
how has the Little Big Planet series done?   Between LBP1, 2, PSP, Vita, and Karting.

I wouldn't say Sackboy has exactly hit feature mascot status, as much as they would've liked, but they still churn these games out...
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Father_Brain on February 07, 2013, 04:07:42 PM
600K worldwide for Liberation is actually pretty solid from Ubi's perspective, given everything the game had going against it commercially (being on Vita, being a $40 M-rated handheld game in 2012).  I doubt Sony is satisfied with the ROI they got from their co-marketing deal for it, though.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on February 07, 2013, 04:27:34 PM
Interesting piece of info
Vita digital sales
15-20%, more important in US than EU.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: AdmiralViscen on February 08, 2013, 07:15:39 AM
I am surprised Ubi doesn't make money on all their DS shovelware. I thought they were all over that shit.

Is that Rayman info true or rumor?
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on February 08, 2013, 07:23:29 AM
Quote from: AdmiralViscen on February 08, 2013, 07:15:39 AM
I am surprised Ubi doesn't make money on all their DS shovelware. I thought they were all over that shit.

Is that Rayman info true or rumor?

lol
check gaming forums
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Don Flamenco on February 08, 2013, 10:42:45 AM
Quote from: maxy on February 07, 2013, 04:27:34 PM
Interesting piece of info
Vita digital sales
15-20%, more important in US than EU.

where'd you see that?   

interesting, i fall right in that.  I have 2 physical games, and a lot more digital full titles. apparently $40 can still be within my impulse buy range (but that's how i got VLR and Persona 4, so it's okay.)
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on February 08, 2013, 10:50:36 AM
Not suprising since people still think they need a CC for DD, and CC is not popular in Europe at all.

So in USA every person has 2.5 credit cards while in Germany only 1 in 5 people have one.

Under this light DD sales in Europe are very good.

(http://i49.tinypic.com/34ywo4h.jpg)
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on February 08, 2013, 11:22:59 AM
Quote from: Don Flamenco on February 08, 2013, 10:42:45 AM
Quote from: maxy on February 07, 2013, 04:27:34 PM
Interesting piece of info
Vita digital sales
15-20%, more important in US than EU.

where'd you see that?   

interesting, i fall right in that.  I have 2 physical games, and a lot more digital full titles. apparently $40 can still be within my impulse buy range (but that's how i got VLR and Persona 4, so it's okay.)

Ubisoft answer to shareholder question
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Sho Nuff on February 08, 2013, 12:41:15 PM
34,000 units of software were sold for Weeoo TOTAL in the UK this month

That Rayman decision makes more and more sense
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: hampster on February 08, 2013, 12:52:20 PM
Quote from: Sho Nuff on February 08, 2013, 12:41:15 PM
34,000 units of software were sold for Weeoo TOTAL in the UK this month

That Rayman decision makes more and more sense

Less than the Vita even though it didn't have a retail release :teehee
 
(although I don't know if the Wii U had one either)

Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: archie4208 on February 08, 2013, 01:20:00 PM
Quote from: Sho Nuff on February 08, 2013, 12:41:15 PM
34,000 units of software were sold for Weeoo TOTAL in the UK this month

That Rayman decision makes more and more sense

If Rayman had came out it might have got up to 35,000.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on February 10, 2013, 01:37:36 PM
I was bored and watched Pach attach,some interesting stuff about NPD

NPD is a voluntary reporting service,software built into cash registers.Retailers report because they want to know their market share.
NPD started as National Purchase Diary,people scribbling into a diary about things sold.

Question was about XBL/PSN numbers.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: AdmiralViscen on February 10, 2013, 06:31:58 PM
http://www.edge-online.com/features/something-about-japan-suda-51-on-selling-grasshopper-manufacture-and-the-state-of-the-industry/

I thought those DQX sales seemed low.

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In financial news, MSN Japan has reported that Square Enix is in the red after failing to meet sales expectations for the period of April to December 2012, the first time the company has reported a loss since the merging of former rivals Square and Enix in 2003. Square Enix’s business in the mobile market seems to have performed well, in particular their Sengoku IXA game and their Final Fantasy social games, but they haven’t had a real smash hit in their core home console market in some time.

“The slump is reportedly down to the company’s new online RPG venture, Dragon Quest X,” reports MSN. “While the disappointing financial turn for the company can be partially attributed to the burden of running the new online service, it is also down to game sales not meeting expectations. The Wii (and soon to be Wii U) game is however, making ‘steady progress’ according to Square Enix.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on February 10, 2013, 07:08:43 PM
Football Managers success surprises me so much. I mean it's a great game but for what it is (a crazy hardcore sim game) it's insane how well it does. Makes me wonder why Sega never forced them to do other sports also.

That said, they also have to hire scouts and that eats up ALOT of development cost, but a reminder that actual football teams liscence the game out (Everton) to do scouting of youth players and such. It's that crazy realistic/in deep that real top tier football clubs use it to scout out future players.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Joe Molotov on February 10, 2013, 07:09:01 PM
Time to trim the fat and focus on what sells.

spoiler (click to show/hide)
Final Fantasy mobile games
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Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Mr. Gundam on February 10, 2013, 08:08:17 PM
DQX should be an offline game.

STOP FUCKING MAKING BELOVED FRANCHISES INTO MMOS GODDAMMIT.

Ok, I'm good now.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: pilonv1 on February 10, 2013, 08:56:07 PM
Quote from: MyNameIsMethodis on February 10, 2013, 07:08:43 PM
Football Managers success surprises me so much. I mean it's a great game but for what it is (a crazy hardcore sim game) it's insane how well it does. Makes me wonder why Sega never forced them to do other sports also.

They used to do Eastside Hockey Manager. I'd imagine they don't make them do other things because it would probably reduce the quality of FM and they've been making this game for nearly 20 years.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on February 10, 2013, 09:02:10 PM
Woah I need to check that out then. When did it come out
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: tiesto on February 10, 2013, 09:11:14 PM
I was under the impression that DQX was doing quite well for itself... Perhaps they'll re-jig it into an offline game?
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on February 10, 2013, 09:38:10 PM
They're just waiting for the Wii U version
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Huff on February 10, 2013, 09:49:29 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on February 10, 2013, 09:38:02 PM
upfront sales were by several orders of magnitude higher than any MMO ever in Japan.  as recently as a month ago, Square-Enix had been expressing satisfaction with how well it was doing.  I'm guess subscriptions are falling off hard, but I don't know what they were expecting.  DQ fans are usually older than FF fans and not nearly as obsessed with the franchise on a regular basis.

it's not really re-jiggable into an offline game, and even if it were, that would be pointless.  gotta strike while the iron is hot, and for DQX, that time is over.

is this game set up to be turned ftp without much trouble?
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Rahxephon91 on February 10, 2013, 10:10:16 PM
Is the game good at least? Does it have good word of mouth?
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: AdmiralViscen on February 10, 2013, 10:28:35 PM
When does DQ7 come out in the US? Or does it?
Title: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Huff on February 10, 2013, 10:47:36 PM
Not announced. I imagine at least 6mo to a year if it comes
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on February 11, 2013, 12:19:32 PM
http://www.polygon.com/2013/2/11/3969140/next-game-from-journey-developer-thatgamecompany
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Journey was a financial disaster, Chen tells me. Pushed back twice, the game bankrupt thatgamecompany. Eventually, it did make it's money back plus some, but not Minecraft money, Chen says. While it was well received, it wasn't well received by a big enough audience for Chen.

"I wouldn't say that the development of Journey was a successful example of game development," he said. "We bankrupted the company."

"I think to have a financial success, that is going to change everyone, it has to be much bigger than a game on the Playstation platform."

Chen is quick to point out how much he appreciates the support of Sony and their willingness to delay the game not one year, but two, at the insistence of the developers. Had Sony pushed thatgamecompany to his their initial deadline it's likely Journey wouldn't have been realized.

But Chen feels that limiting the game to a single platform prevented it from achieving a broader, bigger success.

And it's not really the money that's motivating him, it's the obligation he feels to prove something to the game industry and publishers.
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"My resolution is to create a big financial success,"he said.

For Chen, that means creating a game that can be played on any platform. That's why he sought out venture capital funding, and received it, and that's why the game the team is working on now won't be exclusive to any one system.
Title: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Shaka Khan on February 11, 2013, 12:35:16 PM
TGC won me over with their third attempt, notwithstanding gamers' obsession over "categorizing what Journey is" and where it stands on the gaming spectrum. I'd really like to see them pump out more "artistic" games, as long as long they don't overstay their welcome. So if that involves going multi-platform or mobile exclusive, so be it — as long as they have a platform and enjoy financial success, I'll be content.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Don Flamenco on February 11, 2013, 01:10:32 PM
I wonder how much funding their next game will secure if they just barely survived this last game.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on February 11, 2013, 01:21:50 PM
The type of game they make shouldnt cost too much and should be self published type of thing across steam/xbl/psn.
Title: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Shaka Khan on February 11, 2013, 01:35:49 PM
Journey was indeed a money sink for what it was, I remember their interviews regarding how much time they invested in developing the sand tech/physics, which was admittedly the most complex part of the game... And then you have the delays which accounts for even more expenses.

I'm obviously speaking in relative terms, keeping in mind their size and budget.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Don Flamenco on February 11, 2013, 01:43:50 PM
I can't quite tell just from looking at the game how it did so much financial damage.  But if they really spent years upon years to make it, including scrapped builds, then it might say more about the difficulty of making an art game that catches a relatively wide audience with its graphics/sound and gameplay.  He might be in for a rude awakening with multiplatform development...

Large budget art games must be a pretty crazy risk-- you can't just crumble up the paper after you've completed most of the drawing. :lol
but it sounds like they got lucky and Sony let them do just that.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: treythemovie on February 11, 2013, 02:56:04 PM
Quote from: Don Flamenco on February 11, 2013, 01:10:32 PM
I wonder how much funding their next game will secure if they just barely survived this last game.
TGC? Most of the team left and the rest are on iOS from here on out.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on February 11, 2013, 04:51:16 PM
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Wedbush / EEDAR January 2012 hardware sales estimates (change year-on-year):

360 - 180,000 (-33%) / 260,000 (-4%)
3DS - 160,000 (-7%) / 120,000 (-30%)
PS3 - 145,000 (-24%) / 120,000 (-37%)
Wii U - 125,000 (n/a) / 110,000 (n/a)
DS - 60,000 (-21%) / 31,000 (-59%)
Wii - 52,200 (-66%) / 39,000 (-74%)
Vita - 45,000 (n/a) / 35,000 (n/a)
PSP - 7,500 (-63%) / (n/a)
PS2 - 300 (-96%) / (n/a)
Total - 775,000 (-13%) / 715,000 (-20%)
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on February 11, 2013, 05:25:09 PM
Is this usa?
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Don Flamenco on February 11, 2013, 05:32:05 PM
Quote from: treythemovie on February 11, 2013, 02:56:04 PM
Quote from: Don Flamenco on February 11, 2013, 01:10:32 PM
I wonder how much funding their next game will secure if they just barely survived this last game.
TGC? Most of the team left and the rest are on iOS from here on out.


looks like we both missed the last sentence: 

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For Chen, that means creating a game that can be played on any platform. That's why he sought out venture capital funding, and received it, and that's why the game the team is working on now won't be exclusive to any one system.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: pilonv1 on February 11, 2013, 05:51:30 PM
Quote from: MyNameIsMethodis on February 10, 2013, 09:02:10 PM
Woah I need to check that out then. When did it come out

Mid 2000s? I have no idea, check out www.sigames.com
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Don Flamenco on February 11, 2013, 06:31:36 PM
Quote from: Mr. Gundam on February 10, 2013, 08:08:17 PM
DQX should be an offline game.

STOP FUCKING MAKING BELOVED FRANCHISES INTO MMOS GODDAMMIT.

Ok, I'm good now.


Wada's special "sorry we suck shit" letter said that they are basically putting all their eggs in the MMO basket.

which is smart because, you know, Final Fantasy XI made so much damn money. 

in a time when people barely knew what a MMO was and after you told them what it was and that's what the next FF game was, they shit their pants.

and said time was also pre-WoW.

so, he specifically mentions that they want to be more influenced by WoW.

I'm pretty sure Japan is actually located several jillion light years away, so in their space-time continuum, it's 2006. 
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Rusty Shackleford on February 12, 2013, 01:20:00 AM
[pedant]

I think 7 light-years would suffice.

[/pedant]
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Rusty Shackleford on February 12, 2013, 01:26:18 AM
Does anyone know how well the PS3 Ni no Kuni did?
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Rusty Shackleford on February 12, 2013, 01:42:15 AM
Yes, in NA it was like late January.

You were talking about it being a disaster for Level 5 in another thread; I was curious about the extent of the disaster.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on February 12, 2013, 01:44:25 AM
It did about 25k so far in UK,i think.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Don Flamenco on February 12, 2013, 01:56:30 AM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on February 12, 2013, 01:24:41 AM
Quote from: Don Flamenco on February 11, 2013, 06:31:36 PM
Wada's special "sorry we suck shit" letter said that they are basically putting all their eggs in the MMO basket.

which is smart because, you know, Final Fantasy XI made so much damn money. 

in a time when people barely knew what a MMO was and after you told them what it was and that's what the next FF game was, they shit their pants.

and said time was also pre-WoW.

so, he specifically mentions that they want to be more influenced by WoW.

I'm pretty sure Japan is actually located several jillion light years away, so in their space-time continuum, it's 2006.

WoW was entirely irrelevant to FFXI's success.  FFXI's success was almost entirely contingent on Japan, and in Japan, WoW does not exist. 

It's kind of funny.  In the rest of the world, new MMOs can't succeed because customers are pretty much satisfied with WoW and there's little room for anything else.  In Japan, new MMOs can't succeed because the people don't give a rat's ass about MMOs.


oh, i was just making a joke about how out of touch S-E seems, banking on MMOs in an era like this.   Wada cited WoW influence specifically when talking about what they needed to look at in revising FFXIV.  That didn't inspire confidence, given the trail of bodies leading up to that sentence. 


anyway, in your opinion Oscar, if XIV Remake doesn't live up to its expectations, could S-E get into serious financial trouble or would they just have to cancel some stuff and tighten their belt? 
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Rusty Shackleford on February 12, 2013, 02:02:39 AM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on February 12, 2013, 01:49:50 AM
Quote from: Rusty Shackleford on February 12, 2013, 01:42:15 AM
Yes, in NA it was like late January.

You were talking about it being a disaster for Level 5 in another thread; I was curious about the extent of the disaster.

If it had been a regularly budgeted title, it would have been fine with the sales it pulled.  It's not a regularly budgeted title though.  The voice cast in Japan is full of expensive celebrities, they paid Ghibli to design the characters and do some animation (this had to have cost a bloody arm and a leg, given Ghibli had kept a pretty big distance from the games industry before), had a huge advertising campaign, and of course, also has that book that they had to have created and printed (though at least with the PS3 version they were mostly redistributing unsold copies of the DS version's book).  This is all on top of the game's production budget, which was probably on the upper end of the JRPG spectrum.

It's not going to kill Level 5, but it was a very high profile failure for the company.  Probably the most money they've gambled on anything, and probably the poorest result they've had (outside ol' Gundam Age, anyway).

It was well-received critically, right? It's a shame it didn't do better.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on February 12, 2013, 02:31:18 AM
Quote from: Borys on February 12, 2013, 01:58:57 AM
DQ7 remake sold shipped 1M units in Japan. Biggest 3DS software launch ever.

Methinks DQ series are never leaving Nintendo domain again.

Fixed.

50% day one sellout,btw.
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Post by: Cerveza mas fina on February 12, 2013, 03:02:02 AM
Ni No Kuni looks so pretty, how come it sold so bad?
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on February 12, 2013, 03:11:42 AM
Quote from: Premium Lager on February 12, 2013, 03:02:02 AM
Ni No Kuni looks so pretty, how come it sold so bad?
Are you asking about Japan or West?Not sure what exactly graphics has to do with sales,it's just one of many many factors,pretty minor one imo.West is more sensitive to graphics but not as much as some people think.

In Japan DS game is probably a big factor.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: HyperZoneWasAwesome on February 12, 2013, 04:02:39 AM
its gotta be selling better then any JRPG in the West not named Final Fantasy is years, hell, it'll probably cruise past its JP PS3 number.  In Sushi land, it might have been an underwhelming release, overseas I can't see it as anything but an unqualified success.

what's funny is that the overseas release could have helped build a brand that Level 5 probably has absolutely no interest in revisiting.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: hampster on February 12, 2013, 09:15:18 AM
Yeah, I wonder if Ni No Kuni and Fire Emblem are doing well or it just seems that way because of how they were released. Hopefully something leaks from the NPDs


In other news: Ragnarok Odyssey Ships 250k Copies Worldwide
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The PS Vita exclusive action rpg from Game Arts has shipped some 250k copies across Japan, Asia and North America.
This newest figure was shared this week by the game’s publisher ( in Japan & Europe ) GungHo President & CEO, Kazuki Morishita, during an interview with Cnet Japan. Morishita also expressed satisfaction with the attachment rate for the title but didn’t provide any details on its percentage.

http://thesilentchief.com/2013/02/08/ragnarok-odyssey-ships-250k-copies/

Pretty good for an average game and bodes well for Soul Sacrifice in April
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Post by: HyperZoneWasAwesome on February 12, 2013, 02:21:41 PM
okay, I'll STFU because I should, it should be a 'qualified success', as it hit #1 in the UK and that's damn unusual for a JRPG.  It could outsell Devil May Cry there, and hitting 70-90K still puts it leagues ahead of anything that comes out of NIS, Atlus, Aksys, and the like.

I forgot that Blue Dragon, Lost Odyssey, Valkryia, Demon's Souls, etc. benefited from great timing, money hatted marketing, terrific reviews, and such.  But all of those are still years in the past.  Ni No Kuni is still kicking ass, rocking the Amazon chart (for whatever that's worth) and probably exceeding the rather modest expectations placed upon its Western debut.  I'd call that a success, but I should temper my enthusiasm.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on February 12, 2013, 02:38:44 PM
Yeah the number 1 spot in the uk means good things i think.
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Post by: maxy on February 12, 2013, 02:41:26 PM
 :whip
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Post by: maxy on February 13, 2013, 07:21:06 AM
Somehow stumbled into this,tons of interesting data about Japanese gaming industry(200 slides)
http://www.slideshare.net/GMOCloud/japanese-gaming-market-2012

Not sure how accurate it is though


MC sales are up
http://www.4gamer.net/games/117/G011794/20130213060/

DQ7...828k

(http://i229.photobucket.com/albums/ee137/aranathos/4gamerfw_zps4e79d41a.png)
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Post by: treythemovie on February 13, 2013, 09:09:15 AM
I actually expect Ni No Kuni to perform better the Namco's usual Tales offerings. It has the type of anime that western audiences find somewhat acceptable. Now how much better it'll perform I have no idea.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: treythemovie on February 13, 2013, 09:59:01 AM
Whats that comparison in? DVD sales I assume?

Anyway, Naruto was popular with the young-ins and enjoys a far greater success than the Tales series or most anime do. I don't think the success of Naruto or Pokemon or the like, takes away from the broader appeal a Ghibli-esque game has on the adults who would be buying a PS3 JRPG.

Though I'll admit that a lot of those who do find it more appealing may very well still not buy the game, but only give it token praise.
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Post by: treythemovie on February 13, 2013, 02:00:17 PM
And for that, we're all grateful
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Post by: Momo on February 13, 2013, 02:55:17 PM
Ghibli makes bank in Europe, France especially. US I have no clue.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on February 13, 2013, 06:38:36 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on February 13, 2013, 06:14:50 PM
Disney's marketing does everything in their power to sabotage their releases of Ghibli movies in America.  They made that deal with Ghibli for two reasons: to hog some of Ghibli's critical/Oscar prestige, and to bury the fuck out of a potential competitor.

So Lasseter really is an evil fuck.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Great Rumbler on February 13, 2013, 06:42:39 PM
Quote from: EmCeeGrammar on February 13, 2013, 06:38:36 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on February 13, 2013, 06:14:50 PM
Disney's marketing does everything in their power to sabotage their releases of Ghibli movies in America.  They made that deal with Ghibli for two reasons: to hog some of Ghibli's critical/Oscar prestige, and to bury the fuck out of a potential competitor.

So Lasseter really is an evil fuck.

Nah, the deal with Ghibli was made long before Lasseter had any real pull at Disney HQ.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on February 13, 2013, 06:44:46 PM
But he's more or less in charge now, right?  Has been for a few years, and as a self professed Miyazaki fan this somehow keeps happening anyway.  Speaking of which I haven't seen the newer ghibli thing yet. 
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Great Rumbler on February 13, 2013, 06:47:23 PM
Quote from: EmCeeGrammar on February 13, 2013, 06:44:46 PM
But he's more or less in charge now, right?  Has been for a few years, and as a self professed Miyazaki fan this somehow keeps happening anyway.  Speaking of which I haven't seen the newer ghibli thing yet. 

From Up on Poppy Hill is being released theatrical [not by Disney] in a few weeks. Ghibli's got two more movies out in the summer and the fall of this year.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Joe Molotov on February 14, 2013, 02:54:22 AM
Quote from: EmCeeGrammar on February 13, 2013, 06:44:46 PM
But he's more or less in charge now, right?  Has been for a few years, and as a self professed Miyazaki fan this somehow keeps happening anyway.  Speaking of which I haven't seen the newer ghibli thing yet. 

Well, they have gotten better since he took over. Princess Mononoke, Spirited Away, and Howl's Moving Castle only played on a few hundred screens, but Ponyo and Arrietty both got semi-wide releases. Marketing is still pretty non-existent though.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Trent Dole on February 14, 2013, 04:15:35 PM
Yeah I saw Arrietty at a local mall cineplex. Such a joy to see on a proper big screen. Mononoke was deffo sent to die initially and the only reason they even bothered bringing out more Gihlbi films on home video was that it was outselling some of Disney's own catalog shit. Once they saw the dollar signs they pulled their heads out of their asses a little bit. And as a bonus these films already have an audience so they don't even have to try to market them and will make money anyway! :lol Should note that my eight year old niece loves Ghibli stuff and has seen pretty much everything that her folks are ok with showing her, so they could be making more money off of these films if they felt like it.

(http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l207/fgsfdsfargeg/words.gif)
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Mr. Gundam on February 14, 2013, 04:18:25 PM
Quote from: Joe Molotov on February 14, 2013, 02:54:22 AM
Quote from: EmCeeGrammar on February 13, 2013, 06:44:46 PM
But he's more or less in charge now, right?  Has been for a few years, and as a self professed Miyazaki fan this somehow keeps happening anyway.  Speaking of which I haven't seen the newer ghibli thing yet. 

Well, they have gotten better since he took over. Princess Mononoke, Spirited Away, and Howl's Moving Castle only played on a few hundred screens, but Ponyo and Arrietty both got semi-wide releases. Marketing is still pretty non-existent though.

I remember seeing Mononoke on opening day in Seattle. There were four of us in the theater...

Howl's and Spirited Away were both totally sold out, though.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Great Rumbler on February 14, 2013, 04:39:24 PM
I got to see Howl's Moving Castle, Ponyo, and Arrietty on the big screen. I'm hoping that Up On Poppy Hill gets a wide enough release to be showing somewhere near where I live, but that one's being released theatrically by GKIDS.
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Post by: tiesto on February 14, 2013, 05:08:08 PM
I was on a date when I saw Arrietty, and we were the only people in the theatre. Which was a bit surprising, as it was is in Queens which is like Asian-central (my date was a Chinese girl... who later turned out to be crazy).

Princess Mononoke (my first Ghibli flick) was at the local LI movie theatre that shows lots of indie flicks and I remember it getting a fair amount of people. Since that theatre tends to draw crowds who go to lots of different movies (they sell season passes and such). Ditto for when I saw Howl's at that same theatre. Spirited Away was at a regular theatre in Buffalo and I don't really remember how crowded it was, I convinced all my college friends to go and surprisingly they all liked it, even though most of them's only prior anime exposure had been DBZ.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on February 14, 2013, 06:02:02 PM
(http://i.minus.com/jfrxy8sexAGpi.png)
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Post by: pilonv1 on February 14, 2013, 06:23:51 PM
Today will be fun :teehee
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on February 14, 2013, 06:28:33 PM
Hope we get some WiiU numbers
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Microsoft has just revealed in advance of the January NPD report that its Xbox 360 console has once again topped the competition, selling 281,000 units in January, marking the 25th consecutive month that Xbox 360 has been the top selling console in the US.

Overall, more than $338 million was spent on Xbox 360 retail (including games, consoles and accessories) in January, while Xbpx 360 held 44 percent share of the current-generation console market.

MS could be including WiiU numbers into current generation.

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Call of Duty continues to top the charts as 2013 gets off to slow start

After an abysmal 2012 for video games retail, US game sales in January were perhaps slightly more encouraging (depending on your viewpoint), as total industry sales climbed nine percent to $834.7 million. Hardware sales increased four percent to $205 million while software (including PC games) was flat at almost $393 million. Accessories, however, jumped 30 percent to $256.6 million, thanks to Skylanders and point or subscription cards.

The news is tempered somewhat by the fact that January was a five-week reporting period for The NPD Group. NPD explained that a 'Leap Week' is needed every five to six years "in order to preserve the seasonal integrity of the months." The last adjustment was made in January 2007, and NPD said this is "consistent with the US-based National Retail Federation's (NRF) published Retailer Calendar, which most retailers and NPD follow."

So in truth, software sales for the month, when normalized for a normal reporting period, were actually down 19 percent, NPD explained.

With the exception of Capcom's new Devil May Cry, January saw no major releases to speak of on the top ten, so 2012's year-end hot sellers like Call of Duty and Far Cry 3 continued to top the charts. That said, new releases did fare a bit better than in past January periods. "While the number of new SKUs was relatively consistent for January 2013 compared to January 2012, performance of new SKUs this year versus last was six times as high, lifted by the success of titles like DMC: Devil May Cry and Ni No Kuni: Wrath of the White Witch," observed NPD industry analyst Liam Callahan.

From a publisher's standpoint, Ubisoft fared quite well with three of the top ten - see the full chart below.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BDGfwFfCUAAZibq.png:large)
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Post by: Purple Filth on February 14, 2013, 06:38:19 PM
Quote from: maxy on February 14, 2013, 06:02:02 PM
(http://i.minus.com/jfrxy8sexAGpi.png)

i forgot it was NPD day.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Mr. Gundam on February 14, 2013, 06:42:15 PM
No no Kuni.

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While the number of new SKUs was relatively consistent for January 2013 compared to January 2012, performance of new SKUs this year versus last was six times as high, lifted by the success of titles like DMC: Devil May Cry and Ni No Kuni: Wrath of the White Witch," observed NPD industry analyst Liam Callahan.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Purple Filth on February 14, 2013, 06:54:03 PM
list from gaf

(http://i.imgur.com/G0mKgRP.jpg)


DMC being outsold by those old games don't look good at all plus i guess Ni No Kuni is at 11th then (not great either imo)
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Post by: maxy on February 14, 2013, 06:55:30 PM
Number incoming

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A rough month for Nintendo: NPD informs us that Wii U's third-month sales are 38% lower than the original Wii's were.
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Post by: Purple Filth on February 14, 2013, 06:56:19 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on February 14, 2013, 06:54:34 PM
Considering they're also touting DmC (which, looking at its position and typical January numbers for the yearly franchises, is a fucking gigabomb), I wouldn't get too excited yet.

Just waiting for my numbers now.


Info on DMC, Kuni and Hardware plz
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Purple Filth on February 14, 2013, 07:01:03 PM
Quote from: maxy on February 14, 2013, 06:55:30 PM
Number incoming

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A rough month for Nintendo: NPD informs us that Wii U's third-month sales are 38% lower than the original Wii's were.

apparently that puts it at 270K?


Oscar plz



Edit

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@gamasutra 4:00 PM
Correction to previous tweets: CUMULATIVE three-month Wii U sales are down 38% vs. Wii's first three months on the market. Apologies!
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Post by: maxy on February 14, 2013, 07:01:54 PM
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Correction to previous tweets: CUMULATIVE three-month Wii U sales are down 38% vs. Wii's first three months on the market. Apologies!

I was just about to blame Bore,might have to pull out my  :whip

Something doesn't feel right here
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: pilonv1 on February 14, 2013, 07:04:31 PM
Quote from: maxy on February 14, 2013, 07:01:54 PM
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Correction to previous tweets: CUMULATIVE three-month Wii U sales are down 38% vs. Wii's first three months on the market. Apologies!

I was just about to blame Bore

Enjoyed the Wii U fanboys on GAF thinking it sold on par with 360 for January
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Purple Filth on February 14, 2013, 07:06:45 PM
Now the new number is 55k

...

wut
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on February 14, 2013, 07:11:46 PM
If gamasutra is talking about units then 55k is true

I wish I had some popcorn.
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Post by: Purple Filth on February 14, 2013, 07:13:09 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on February 14, 2013, 07:11:15 PM
Yeah, 55k seems about right.  That was an awesome football yank by Gamasutra, haha.

 :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o

whats vita for the lulz?
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Purple Filth on February 14, 2013, 07:17:01 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on February 14, 2013, 07:15:55 PM
Also very bad.

over or under  :P
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: hampster on February 14, 2013, 07:23:07 PM
I guess we know why Nintendo held that direct today :lol
Oh wait, I'll be one of February's 40k :'(

I wonder if Nintendo is going to move from "panic modez" into "we're shipping this Mario and Zelda whether its finished or not"
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: hampster on February 14, 2013, 07:32:45 PM
Ni No Kuni is at #11 on the combined sku chart (#7 on the individual games chart)

http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/02/14/npd-black-ops-2-far-cry-3-top-us-sales-charts-for-january
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Don Flamenco on February 14, 2013, 07:32:54 PM
WiiU breaking records:

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Lowest PS3 has been is 82k during April 2007. X360 never has been under 100k if I remember right.


http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=47734828&postcount=501


Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Purple Filth on February 14, 2013, 07:33:00 PM
Looks like Ni No Kuni did appear 11th and would be 7th if the other games were not merged.

http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/02/14/npd-black-ops-2-far-cry-3-top-us-sales-charts-for-january?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+ign%2Fall+%28IGN+All%29
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Joe Molotov on February 14, 2013, 07:58:55 PM
WiiU more or less than the Vita? We need to know this.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Purple Filth on February 14, 2013, 08:02:21 PM
Quote from: Joe Molotov on February 14, 2013, 07:58:55 PM
WiiU more or less than the Vita? We need to know this.

+1

Oscar plz
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Post by: Flannel Boy on February 14, 2013, 08:40:33 PM
Drinky reading this news on his Surface Pro: (http://gifs.gifbin.com/042009/1239788892_jizz-in-my-pants.gif) x 55
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Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on February 14, 2013, 08:41:38 PM
I worked on my day off today.  Seeing the possible Wii U hardware at 55k makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside :heart
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Purple Filth on February 14, 2013, 08:42:09 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/2X8iNV2.jpg)
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on February 14, 2013, 08:45:57 PM
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Nintendo dont even care I think they want to soft relaunch Wii U like 3DS on purpose.

Sure they do buddy

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Post by: Flannel Boy on February 14, 2013, 08:50:33 PM
Quote from: The Experiment on February 14, 2013, 08:45:57 PM
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Nintendo dont even care I think they want to soft relaunch Wii U like 3DS on purpose.

Sure they do buddy
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v180/Triumph/gahiggidy.gif)
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Post by: The Sceneman on February 14, 2013, 08:56:43 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on February 14, 2013, 08:04:24 PM
I'm going to keep you kids in suspense a while longer.

(Only have rough numbers right now and it's too close to call til I get my proper numbers)

I'm ready. Console warz is back baybee

(http://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/MichealJacksonPopcorn.gif)
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Post by: Sho Nuff on February 14, 2013, 08:58:26 PM
Quote from: Purple Filth on February 14, 2013, 08:42:09 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/2X8iNV2.jpg)

OMG Ancel's expression now makes sense  :lol
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on February 14, 2013, 09:03:21 PM
can someone explain that for people who dont read gaming sites all day
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Human Snorenado on February 14, 2013, 09:05:59 PM
Quote from: Flannel Boy on February 14, 2013, 08:50:33 PM
Quote from: The Experiment on February 14, 2013, 08:45:57 PM
Quote
Nintendo dont even care I think they want to soft relaunch Wii U like 3DS on purpose.

Sure they do buddy
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v180/Triumph/gahiggidy.gif)

HEY THAT'S FROM MY PHOTOBUCKET ACCT

...I can't remember the password, and who uses photobucket anymore anyhow???
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Purple Filth on February 14, 2013, 09:06:37 PM
Quote from: The Sceneman on February 14, 2013, 08:56:43 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on February 14, 2013, 08:04:24 PM
I'm going to keep you kids in suspense a while longer.

(Only have rough numbers right now and it's too close to call til I get my proper numbers)

I'm ready. Console warz is back baybee

(http://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/MichealJacksonPopcorn.gif)

Sounds like Vita didn't win.

More info is good even though it won't be a exact thing.


Quote from: Sho Nuff on February 14, 2013, 08:58:26 PM

OMG Ancel's expression now makes sense  :lol

 :lol


Quote from: MyNameIsMethodis on February 14, 2013, 09:03:21 PM
can someone explain that for people who dont read gaming sites all day

its a funny photoshop.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Human Snorenado on February 14, 2013, 09:10:50 PM
DAT GOAL POST MOVING in the gaf thread :teehee
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: pilonv1 on February 14, 2013, 09:12:34 PM
Who cares about hardware, Vita v Wii U software is where it's at.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Human Snorenado on February 14, 2013, 09:13:04 PM
THIS IS THE GREATEST VALENTINES DAY EVER
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Stoney Mason on February 14, 2013, 09:21:50 PM
If that Wii U number is right then yeah that Wii U needs a game changer like immediately or it's gonna be over.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Human Snorenado on February 14, 2013, 09:23:06 PM
Quote from: Stoney Mason on February 14, 2013, 09:21:50 PM
If that Wii U number is right then yeah that Wii U needs a game changer like immediately or it's gonna be over.

As far as this is concerned...these sales numbers aren't official. With that said, if they are...


I'm not that concerned. And I'm a pretty ultra-hardcore Nintendo fan. I would only be concerned and pissed off it there was no software coming down the horizon. March, for instance. SO LONG AS NOA MARKETING DOESN'T FUCK IT UP, Lego City Undercover is going to move some systems. It's a big time title and it's going to draw in a lot of the younger crowd also that Activision has been concerned about with Wii U.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on February 14, 2013, 09:28:59 PM
thekevindent ‏@TheKevinDent
Nintendo WiiU is officially the worst major console launch in the history of video games.
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5 mins chris grant ‏@chrisgrant
@TheKevinDent Saturn? 3DO? Virtual Boy? Philips CDi?
from Philadelphia, PA
4 mins thekevindent ‏@TheKevinDent
@chrisgrant Saturn and virtual boy both sold more at launch. The rest were not "major consoles".


lads???????
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Flannel Boy on February 14, 2013, 09:35:05 PM
Consumers: Why would we want a tablet that has a worse resolution than our cell phones or a game system that's as powerful as our seven year-old consoles but without the games. Please understand.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on February 14, 2013, 09:35:37 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on February 14, 2013, 09:33:42 PM
Quote from: Stoney Mason on February 14, 2013, 09:21:50 PM
If that Wii U number is right then yeah that Wii U needs a game changer like immediately or it's gonna be over.

It's already over.  It was over before it even launched.  This comes as a surprise to not one person except everyone making the decisions at Nintendo.  And I bet it's not even a surprise to some of them.

Methodis, that's false.  As badly as the WiiU is doing, its numbers in the US are already past the VB's worldwide lifetime sales.  This month does look an awful lot like the Saturn numbers in America, though.  The first two months were significantly better than Saturn's, though.

It was nice to dream of the trolls  :'(
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: tiesto on February 14, 2013, 09:37:08 PM
I honestly had no idea the WiiU would be doing THIS badly.

Too bad Ni No Kuni didn't place (not that I expected it to). Would have been the first time in years that a title I was into placed on an NPD chart.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Flannel Boy on February 14, 2013, 09:37:28 PM
Quote from: Creepy Old Guy on February 14, 2013, 09:13:04 PM
THIS IS THE GREATEST VALENTINES DAY EVER

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=47738416&postcount=1220
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Stoney Mason on February 14, 2013, 09:37:45 PM
Quote from: Creepy Old Guy on February 14, 2013, 09:23:06 PM
Quote from: Stoney Mason on February 14, 2013, 09:21:50 PM
If that Wii U number is right then yeah that Wii U needs a game changer like immediately or it's gonna be over.

As far as this is concerned...these sales numbers aren't official. With that said, if they are...


I'm not that concerned. And I'm a pretty ultra-hardcore Nintendo fan. I would only be concerned and pissed off it there was no software coming down the horizon. March, for instance. SO LONG AS NOA MARKETING DOESN'T FUCK IT UP, Lego City Undercover is going to move some systems. It's a big time title and it's going to draw in a lot of the younger crowd also that Activision has been concerned about with Wii U.

I'll just say I don't see it right now. If that number is right (and maybe it isn't) then that means Nintendo has colossally guessed wrong both in price and desirability feature wise in their console at a magnitude much greater than expected. And its not like its getting any easier. It's not like the 360 or the PS 3 just go away when the next gen consoles are launched.

Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Human Snorenado on February 14, 2013, 09:39:04 PM
...that was a gaf c/p, stoney.  consider the source :P
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Flannel Boy on February 14, 2013, 09:39:21 PM
 :rofl
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Stoney Mason on February 14, 2013, 09:39:53 PM
Quote from: Creepy Old Guy on February 14, 2013, 09:39:04 PM
...that was a gaf c/p, stoney.  consider the source :P

Ah....  :-[

Well now I feel foolish.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: cool breeze on February 14, 2013, 09:40:24 PM
that guy is saying <$15M software sales for Wii U. 

Vita is mid ~30k hardware.

yikes


Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: fistfulofmetal on February 14, 2013, 09:40:37 PM
So how long until I'll be playing Mario on my Xbox 720 or PS4?
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: pilonv1 on February 14, 2013, 09:43:25 PM
Good thing this will be cheap by the time I want to play Lego City Undercover.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Flannel Boy on February 14, 2013, 09:44:57 PM
Consumers who, for whatever reason, embraced the wiimote have rejected the tablet. And this gimmick controller is going to keep the system's price too high.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: headwalk on February 14, 2013, 09:47:55 PM
Quote from: fistfulofmetal on February 14, 2013, 09:40:37 PM
So how long until I'll be playing Mario on my Xbox 720 or PS4?

quick, read multiple thousand word posts from kajima rationalising why this will never happen and it's for the best that nintendo go the route of tiger electronics, making irrelevant pieces of plastic to fill the shelf space between glenn10 and genuine infantry john figures - before nintendo actually go third party and kajima makes multiple thousand word posts rationalising why it was the right decision all along.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Flannel Boy on February 14, 2013, 09:56:12 PM
Tiger Electronics?
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Stoney Mason on February 14, 2013, 09:59:15 PM
Wow after looking at that gaf thread it seems that number is close enough to be right.

Holy Fuck.  :rofl

To go from the Wii to that, is like a fuck-up for the books.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on February 14, 2013, 10:03:03 PM
How long until Iwata and Reggie steps down?
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Steve Youngblood on February 14, 2013, 10:10:30 PM
Man, two days ago the discussion out there was about how bad those 110k-125k Wedbush/EEDAR projections looked. 55K is crazy low. Not that I'm a sales expert or anything, but I never dreamed that it'd come in this low already.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: fistfulofmetal on February 14, 2013, 10:13:18 PM
i will be OK when the video game industry crashes again and the history books site the Wii as the point where it all started.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Damian79 on February 14, 2013, 10:16:07 PM
Quote from: The Experiment on February 14, 2013, 10:03:03 PM
How long until Iwata and Reggie steps down?

Iwata will step down if they dont make over 100 million in operating income by the next nintendo annual report.  Reggie prolly never.  :(
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Purple Filth on February 14, 2013, 10:21:14 PM
what DmC's range?

and Vita :violin
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Steve Youngblood on February 14, 2013, 10:21:47 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on February 14, 2013, 10:19:06 PM
If Iwata resigns, Reggie probably won't be long after him.

Reg doesn't need this kind of loser stink on his rep.  The man invented the fucking Bigfoot Pizza.

And the New Yorker!
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Great Rumbler on February 14, 2013, 10:22:56 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on February 14, 2013, 10:19:06 PM
Reg doesn't need this kind of loser stink on his rep.  The man invented the fucking Bigfoot Pizza.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=phDAyOf6j1A
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Father_Brain on February 14, 2013, 10:34:16 PM
Oscar, what are your worldwide LTD projections for Wii U?  GC-level?  Or if lower, how far below?

EDIT: I originally typed Vita when I meant Wii U.  Considering last month's sales, that's pretty amusing.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Purple Filth on February 14, 2013, 10:36:39 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on February 14, 2013, 10:23:18 PM
Quote from: Purple Filth on February 14, 2013, 10:21:14 PM
what DmC's range?

and Vita :violin

DmC is under 200k.

ouch

how much was DMC 4s first month again
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: tiesto on February 14, 2013, 10:39:49 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on February 14, 2013, 10:19:06 PM
If Iwata resigns, Reggie probably won't be long after him.

Reg doesn't need this kind of loser stink on his rep.  The man invented the fucking Bigfoot Pizza.

You'd think someone who grew up on the Island would know a thing or two about good pizza. Pizza Hut  :yuck
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: pilonv1 on February 14, 2013, 10:44:44 PM
Quote from: Steve Youngblood on February 14, 2013, 10:10:30 PM
Man, two days ago the discussion out there was about how bad those 110k-125k Wedbush/EEDAR projections looked. 55K is crazy low. Not that I'm a sales expert or anything, but I never dreamed that it'd come in this low already.

Reading the GAF predictions is always hilarious in hindsight.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Purple Filth on February 14, 2013, 10:47:14 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on February 14, 2013, 10:40:32 PM
Quote from: Purple Filth on February 14, 2013, 10:36:39 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on February 14, 2013, 10:23:18 PM
Quote from: Purple Filth on February 14, 2013, 10:21:14 PM
what DmC's range?

and Vita :violin

DmC is under 200k.

ouch

how much was DMC 4s first month again

530k.

yikes.


Will still wait for it to get cheaper.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Stoney Mason on February 14, 2013, 10:54:48 PM
Quote from: pilonv1 on February 14, 2013, 10:44:44 PM
Quote from: Steve Youngblood on February 14, 2013, 10:10:30 PM
Man, two days ago the discussion out there was about how bad those 110k-125k Wedbush/EEDAR projections looked. 55K is crazy low. Not that I'm a sales expert or anything, but I never dreamed that it'd come in this low already.

Reading the GAF predictions is always hilarious in hindsight.

Reading gaf anything is often hilarious in hindsight. I remember reading so many posts saying how the Wii U had the best collection of launch games ever for any launch!
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Purple Filth on February 14, 2013, 11:01:19 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on February 14, 2013, 10:53:49 PM
Well, I think DmC's number is a good bit lower than anyone was expecting, so there's a good chance stores over-ordered, which means you'll get your cheap dirtperson version pretty soon.  Or you can wait til Capcom does a decent Steam sale for the proper version.

there we go

though i worry if Capcom will bite since they seem to be uninvolved at times with steam sales.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Liquid_Bike on February 14, 2013, 11:02:05 PM
Does anyone know a ball park number for Ni No Kuni?
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: AdmiralViscen on February 14, 2013, 11:11:18 PM
Quote from: Stoney Mason on February 14, 2013, 10:54:48 PM
Quote from: pilonv1 on February 14, 2013, 10:44:44 PM
Quote from: Steve Youngblood on February 14, 2013, 10:10:30 PM
Man, two days ago the discussion out there was about how bad those 110k-125k Wedbush/EEDAR projections looked. 55K is crazy low. Not that I'm a sales expert or anything, but I never dreamed that it'd come in this low already.

Reading the GAF predictions is always hilarious in hindsight.

Reading gaf anything is often hilarious in hindsight. I remember reading so many posts saying how the Wii U had the best collection of launch games ever for any launch!

I don't know how they ever said that shit with a straight face
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: AdmiralViscen on February 14, 2013, 11:12:10 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on February 14, 2013, 11:09:10 PM
Quote from: Father_Brain on February 14, 2013, 10:34:16 PM
Oscar, what are your worldwide LTD projections for Wii U?  GC-level?  Or if lower, how far below?

EDIT: I originally typed Vita when I meant Wii U.  Considering last month's sales, that's pretty amusing.

I'd originally considered that it would probably do somewhere between the GC and the N64, so around 25-27 million.  I'm definitely revising that down.  Considerably.  We could be looking at SEGA Saturn-ville here.

Are there monthly NPDs for the Dreamcast?
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Flannel Boy on February 14, 2013, 11:13:36 PM
Quote from: Stoney Mason on February 14, 2013, 10:54:48 PM
Reading gaf anything is often hilarious in hindsight. I remember reading so many posts saying how the Wii U had the best collection of launch games ever for any launch!
Low bar, but the GameCube had  better exclusive in its launch period--Super Smash Bros. Melee, Rogue Squadron II, Super Monkey Ball, Pikmin, Wave Race: BS, Luigi's Mansion. Next year, it had REmake Metroid Prime, Sunshine, Animal Crossing, Eternal Crappiness, and Wind Waker. Well, the Wii U is getting Wind Waker.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: AdmiralViscen on February 14, 2013, 11:13:43 PM
I think it had a decent 6-8 month start.

Wii U sucks balls LOL
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Father_Brain on February 14, 2013, 11:22:29 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on February 14, 2013, 11:09:10 PM
Quote from: Father_Brain on February 14, 2013, 10:34:16 PM
Oscar, what are your worldwide LTD projections for Wii U?  GC-level?  Or if lower, how far below?

EDIT: I originally typed Vita when I meant Wii U.  Considering last month's sales, that's pretty amusing.

I'd originally considered that it would probably do somewhere between the GC and the N64, so around 25-27 million.  I'm definitely revising that down.  Considerably.  We could be looking at SEGA Saturn-ville here.

Fair enough. I'd still put my own current LTD expectation at 25-45m WWm, now leaning to the lower end of that, but we'll see how much the first-party lineup this year moves the needle.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: cool breeze on February 14, 2013, 11:24:03 PM
I don't think I would care if nintendo bowed out of the console race to double down in the handheld space.

Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Human Snorenado on February 14, 2013, 11:25:57 PM
My gloating at the apparent imminent demise of Nofriendo is tempered by the alarming notion that this might be it for home consoles in general.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Snuflupagulus on February 14, 2013, 11:28:40 PM
What's with all the WiiU talk? Old news. The new hotness is the 3DS Extra Husky. YEAH!!!

:bow Nintendo :bow2


 :greenshinobi
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Purple Filth on February 14, 2013, 11:59:49 PM
Quote
The numbers aren't great but the WiiU is still the top selling next gen console on the market. And by the time the PS4 hits the market at $400-500, the WiiU will have a nice price cut and a host of top selling franchises ready to launch. This isn't over. We don't know what Retro has been working on, I have a feeling they'll provide the killer app gamers are looking for.

Just a couple moves can fix this, I really don't see a point in jumping to conclusions. Nintendo is potentially going to purchase Valve, given their financial problems. Also given the ridiculous modern day slavery situation at Ubisoft, I think master talents like Ancel could flock to Nintendo. Those two moves alone would shore up the US and UK markets, and Japan will fall in line for Animal Crossing WiiU.

:lol :lol :lol
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 15, 2013, 12:00:19 AM
wow

So...price cut I guess, and some quick Wii ports for the holidays.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: pilonv1 on February 15, 2013, 12:19:00 AM
Nintendo buying Valve is right up there with those old Microsoft buying Nintendo rumours
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Human Snorenado on February 15, 2013, 12:19:52 AM
Quote from: pilonv1 on February 15, 2013, 12:19:00 AM
Nintendo buying Valve is right up there with those old Microsoft buying Nintendo rumours

Well, one of those might be likely to happen if things keep going this way :smug
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: pilonv1 on February 15, 2013, 12:23:24 AM
Microsoft buying Nintendo and having them work solely on Kinect games would be hilarious
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 15, 2013, 12:23:52 AM
:smug

the next few months will be glorious. This is just like the first sip
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Purple Filth on February 15, 2013, 12:50:15 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/dckW2ZP.png)


 :o


Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on February 15, 2013, 12:39:55 AM
naughty naughty, father brain

now nobody gets any cake

pack it up this party is over  :-\
Title: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Huff on February 15, 2013, 12:52:22 AM
But we were just about to get a bunch of new members

Lulz
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: pilonv1 on February 15, 2013, 12:53:12 AM
what happened?
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Steve Youngblood on February 15, 2013, 12:55:49 AM
Quote from: pilonv1 on February 15, 2013, 12:53:12 AM
what happened?

I'm not really sure what the follow through would have been, but Father_Brain passed along the hint about DmC's sales and said he probably shouldn't link to the forum in question. In and of itself, I don't know if that would have been particularly egregious (I'm legitimately ignorant here), but I don't know if there was an influx of curiosity about what that forum may be or who the source was.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Purple Filth on February 15, 2013, 12:56:42 AM
Quote from: pilonv1 on February 15, 2013, 12:53:12 AM
what happened?

Father brain blabbed the DmC numbers to GAF and people were asking for a PM to the site
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Don Flamenco on February 15, 2013, 12:57:44 AM
brilliant stuff

go eat some poo pudding, father_brain
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Steve Youngblood on February 15, 2013, 12:57:50 AM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on February 15, 2013, 12:56:13 AM
either way, shop's closed up for the time being.

I'll never get those Funky Barn numbers.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Human Snorenado on February 15, 2013, 12:57:55 AM
lulz

NO FUN ALLOWED ON THE GAFS
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: pilonv1 on February 15, 2013, 12:58:58 AM
Quote from: Purple Filth on February 15, 2013, 12:56:42 AM
Quote from: pilonv1 on February 15, 2013, 12:53:12 AM
what happened?

Father brain blabbed the DmC numbers to GAF and people where asking for a PM to the site

Demi ban this filth
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: benjipwns on February 15, 2013, 01:01:17 AM
Quote
@gamasutra 4:00 PM
Correction to previous tweets: CUMULATIVE three-month Wii U sales are down 38% vs. Wii's first three months on the market. Apologies!
(http://i.imgur.com/iqEA0MN.jpg)
Title: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Huff on February 15, 2013, 01:04:03 AM
Quote from: Steve Youngblood on February 15, 2013, 12:57:50 AM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on February 15, 2013, 12:56:13 AM
either way, shop's closed up for the time being.

I'll never get those Funky Barn numbers.

Actually really curious if you really got funky barn
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Steve Youngblood on February 15, 2013, 01:05:41 AM
Quote from: Huff on February 15, 2013, 01:04:03 AM
Quote from: Steve Youngblood on February 15, 2013, 12:57:50 AM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on February 15, 2013, 12:56:13 AM
either way, shop's closed up for the time being.

I'll never get those Funky Barn numbers.

Actually really curious if you really got funky barn

I wish I could say yes, but no, I don't own it and have never played the game. I can say that -- though I spend very little time on the Miiverse -- Funky Barn did have the best community!
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Purple Filth on February 15, 2013, 01:08:28 AM
Quote from: Steve Youngblood on February 15, 2013, 01:05:41 AM
Quote from: Huff on February 15, 2013, 01:04:03 AM
Quote from: Steve Youngblood on February 15, 2013, 12:57:50 AM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on February 15, 2013, 12:56:13 AM
either way, shop's closed up for the time being.

I'll never get those Funky Barn numbers.

Actually really curious if you really got funky barn

I wish I could say yes, but no, I don't own it and have never played the game. I can say that -- though I spend very little time on the Miiverse -- Funky Barn did have the best community!

 :lol

Jeff from GB knows about this first hand
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Father_Brain on February 15, 2013, 01:14:18 AM
I am a bad person and have a micropenis :(
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Shaka Khan on February 15, 2013, 01:34:25 AM
Father_Brain is good people, but that was a lapse of good judgement.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: DCharlieJP on February 15, 2013, 01:49:13 AM
Quote from: pilonv1 on February 15, 2013, 12:19:00 AM
Nintendo buying Valve is right up there with those old Microsoft buying Nintendo rumours

Wait though - Microsoft did at least start the process of trying to buy Nintendo twice. That -actually- happened.

Or are you saying....  :o :o :o
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on February 15, 2013, 02:05:48 AM
Naughty FB :yuck

Has Nintendo said anything?
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Raban on February 15, 2013, 02:40:19 AM
:lol that's not arv
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: benjipwns on February 15, 2013, 03:22:42 AM
Everyone calm down:
Quote
NPD November 2006: PS3 - 197K
NPD December 2006: PS3 - 491K
NPD January 2007: PS3 - 244K - LTD 932K

NPD November 2012: Wii U - 425K
NPD December 2012: Wii U - 460K
NPD January 2013: Wii U - ~55K - LTD 940K
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Fifstar on February 15, 2013, 03:25:11 AM
Quote from: Flannel Boy on February 14, 2013, 11:13:36 PM
Quote from: Stoney Mason on February 14, 2013, 10:54:48 PM
Reading gaf anything is often hilarious in hindsight. I remember reading so many posts saying how the Wii U had the best collection of launch games ever for any launch!
Low bar, but the GameCube had  better exclusive in its launch period--Super Smash Bros. Melee, Rogue Squadron II, Super Monkey Ball, Pikmin, Wave Race: BS, Luigi's Mansion. Next year, it had REmake Metroid Prime, Sunshine, Animal Crossing, Eternal Crappiness, and Wind Waker. Well, the Wii U is getting Wind Waker.

Apparently the GC had sales of 59k in it's third month, also a january. Launch lineup could be called a draw, better exclusives vs. wider 3rd party lineup. Considering how nobody cares for the gimmick, shitty tech and the higher pricepoint 55k now for the WiiU actually seem reasonable. Personally I thought Nintendo could exploit some of the Wii brand recognition but seems like this is not the case at all.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: benjipwns on February 15, 2013, 03:27:45 AM
Quote from: Fifstar on February 15, 2013, 03:25:11 AM
Personally I thought Nintendo could exploit some of the Wii brand recognition but seems like this is not the case at all.
I think this is part of the problem. You say Wii and people think waggle wands, I doubt they want a tablet add-on for their Wii.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: mjemirzian on February 15, 2013, 05:14:33 AM
How are they losing money on a $350 console considering the hardware?

Why did so many people here buy one? ???
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on February 15, 2013, 05:39:32 AM
I love the smell of meltdowns in the morning  :lol
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Vertigo on February 15, 2013, 06:20:49 AM
It will be a horrible and very slow death but the Wii U is done. And unlike something like the Dreamcast they won't even go out firing on all fronts and leave some gaming classics behind. Just reheated Mario and Zelda games. The only Jewel I can see on the horizon is Bayonetta 2 but that's going to mega flop on release even worst than the first game. As I don't see the 'Nintendo games only' Nintards even buying it. Hopefully by then the Wii U will be about £120.

As for the Vita,what can you say? The thing was dead on its first reveal.

But like Nintendo, Sony has to keep up appearances. 
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on February 15, 2013, 06:26:41 AM
Don't worry guys, panic Nintendo is best Nintendo!
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on February 15, 2013, 06:37:11 AM
Quote from: benjipwns on February 15, 2013, 03:22:42 AM
Everyone calm down:
Quote
NPD November 2006: PS3 - 197K
NPD December 2006: PS3 - 491K
NPD January 2007: PS3 - 244K - LTD 932K

NPD November 2012: Wii U - 425K
NPD December 2012: Wii U - 460K
NPD January 2013: Wii U - ~55K - LTD 940K

And thats at 599  :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol

Quote from: The Experiment on February 15, 2013, 06:26:41 AM
Don't worry guys, panic Nintendo is best Nintendo!

 :elephant :elephant :elephant :elephant
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Momo on February 15, 2013, 06:38:17 AM
Quote from: Borys on February 15, 2013, 06:02:58 AM

Wii U is dead, ninfags. DEAD. D E A D.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9iC45-tMR34
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on February 15, 2013, 06:50:36 AM
 :rofl
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: fistfulofmetal on February 15, 2013, 07:54:26 AM
video games are so fucked!
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on February 15, 2013, 07:55:33 AM
I don't think Andy is coming back any time soon.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on February 15, 2013, 08:03:11 AM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on February 15, 2013, 07:58:00 AM
i think he'll be back before long

i wonder which of the two of us people will believe

yeah sorry I don't pm with andy like you congrats on the inside track on his life

can u pm andy about his opinion on 55k?
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on February 15, 2013, 08:25:45 AM
I believe you

Are there any meltdowns on GAF?
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on February 15, 2013, 08:35:19 AM
I particulary enjoy sony fans too atm, already thinking they are getting the throne back for sure :drool
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on February 15, 2013, 08:46:06 AM
Yeah,Nintendo stuck in quicksand,MS gone casual chasing ad money

Sony is back baby :D
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on February 15, 2013, 08:57:40 AM
wow what a twat leaking the dmc numbers I even saw them on another forum like 20 minutes after up osted them and I was like "wow it must just be common knowledge and oscar just aint that ITK" but nope we have a TRAITOR here laides and gentlemans.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on February 15, 2013, 09:03:36 AM
zomg dude said that Europe is about the same as US(5 week period)...at best

About 220k in January worldwide.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on February 15, 2013, 09:06:48 AM
Quote from: Borys on February 15, 2013, 08:52:44 AM
GAF at the moment:

- MS has gone off the deep end and is only about that Apple money with Netflix/ Hulu/ Smart Glass and other non games. They will fail miserably.
- Nintendo is stuck in the past and nobody will remember that Wii U even exist when PS4 hits. Something somethign Retro FPS something something saviour of Wii U something something.
- Sony is the true saviour of console gaming. Lots of "current 360 owners" are jumping ship and going PS4 exclusive this gen. Like they really own a 360 now, yeah right...

Pretty much.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: hampster on February 15, 2013, 09:19:12 AM
I don't get why gaffers are so confident in Sony when the only device doing worse than the Wii U right now is Sony's Vita
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Joe Molotov on February 15, 2013, 09:19:46 AM
Quote from: Borys on February 15, 2013, 09:06:05 AM
Why is Iwata still in charge? His project (Wii U) is a failure.

Only a matter of time before he gets Gunpei'd.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on February 15, 2013, 09:30:24 AM
Vita is not PS4.

The market the Vita targets has tablets smartphones now.  The market the PS4 will target is still there.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on February 15, 2013, 09:38:21 AM
Forum,E3 hype is not something you can build your platform on,especially today.I hope Sony pays attention to what is happening to Vita and WiiU and understands why.Because if they just go--this is PS4,here are few so so games,you should buy it for some future potential,bye...not gonna be good
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: archie4208 on February 15, 2013, 09:38:59 AM
Feels good to be part of the PC mustard rice.  :smug
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on February 15, 2013, 09:49:02 AM
Quote from: archie4208 on February 15, 2013, 09:38:59 AM
Feels good to be part of the PC mustard rice.  :smug
The thing is that unlike 10 years ago today you have so much choice,almost everything that has a screen plays games,one click on internet bam games...games everywhere
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Human Snorenado on February 15, 2013, 09:52:09 AM
I wonder what their reaction is going to be when it does sub 50k numbers for the 4 week feb period. 

WAIT TIL SPACEWORLD
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: archie4208 on February 15, 2013, 09:55:31 AM
Pretty much.  I don't think Orbis or Durango will set the world on fire either, but at least their sales shouldn't be as disastrous as the Wii U.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: AdmiralViscen on February 15, 2013, 09:59:35 AM
Quote from: Joe Molotov on February 15, 2013, 09:19:46 AM
Quote from: Borys on February 15, 2013, 09:06:05 AM
Why is Iwata still in charge? His project (Wii U) is a failure.

Only a matter of time before he gets Gunpei'd.

 :lol
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Great Rumbler on February 15, 2013, 10:09:13 AM
Would be hilarious if X was an Aliens: Colonial Marines situation where that video was actually a mock-up and the real game doesn't look anywhere near as good.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cascade on February 15, 2013, 10:12:52 AM
Quote from: Borys on February 15, 2013, 09:20:49 AM
Quote from: hampster on February 15, 2013, 09:19:12 AM
I don't get why gaffers are so confident in Sony when the only device doing worse than the Wii U right now is Sony's Vita

Fanboi logic works that way. Failures are quickly forgotten and swept under the history rug when there is a chance for a big victory around the corner.
This seems like an unfair dig at me and accusation of bias that I don't think is relevant to the discussion at hand. I'd ask you to stop and, if you choose to proceed, will ask for mod attention to it.

Thanks.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on February 15, 2013, 10:30:58 AM
If this hits gaf...don't have any popcorn,dammit

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-02-14/sony-revamps-aging-playstation-in-bid-to-recapture-cool.html

Michael Pachter
Quote
“Sony and Nintendo refuse to acknowledge they don’t have a market like they had 20 years ago,” Pachter said. “They’re desperately clinging to the notion they can get it back.”
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Stoney Mason on February 15, 2013, 10:35:54 AM
Quote from: maxy on February 15, 2013, 10:30:58 AM
If this hits gaf...don't have any popcorn,dammit

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-02-14/sony-revamps-aging-playstation-in-bid-to-recapture-cool.html

Michael Pachter
Quote
“Sony and Nintendo refuse to acknowledge they don’t have a market like they had 20 years ago,” Pachter said. “They’re desperately clinging to the notion they can get it back.”

This one already has them riled up.

http://www.marco.org/2013/02/02/nintendo-in-trouble
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: cool breeze on February 15, 2013, 10:49:27 AM
Quote from: Great Rumbler on February 15, 2013, 10:09:13 AM
Would be hilarious if X was an Aliens: Colonial Marines situation where that video was actually a mock-up and the real game doesn't look anywhere near as good.

or
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=idZKMJDbnBw

or Final Fantasy Versus XIII...but, really, I hope it wasn't "show early, deliver late/never."
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on February 15, 2013, 10:52:31 AM
Quote
The Wii U looks like it’s going to have more Gamecube-like appeal: long-time Nintendo fans will like it, but it won’t do well in the rest of the market.

The solution most people suggest is for Nintendo to exit the cut-throat, usually-low-margin hardware business and just make their well-known games for other platforms. But Nintendo’s hardware business isn’t low-margin at all. Suggesting Nintendo leave it would be like suggesting that Apple leave the hardware business.

Unlike Apple, Nintendo’s just not selling a lot of hardware anymore. That’s a big problem. But becoming a software-only business would almost certainly bring in far less revenue, especially if they wanted to sell their games on iOS, where nobody can sell games for $50.
Quote
Nintendo needs the profits of the high end, but they can’t compete there anymore. All of the growth is happening at the low end, which is mostly games that they can’t or won’t make. And even if they succeeded in casual gaming, it probably wouldn’t bring the kind of profit that they need.

I don’t think Nintendo has a bright future. I see them staying in the shrinking hardware business until the bitter end, and then becoming roughly like Sega today: a shell of the former company, probably acquired for relatively little by someone big, endlessly whoring out their old franchises in mostly mediocre games that will leave their old fans longing for the good old days.

Smart guy,but on the other hand who knows what the future brings.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Don Flamenco on February 15, 2013, 11:02:46 AM
Quote from: Borys on February 15, 2013, 06:02:58 AM
What is amazing is that there are STILL delusional nintards in the NPD thread spinning this into an "exception" other than a rule. Their subconsciousness cannot deal with Wii U being dead and buried and on the short way to being discontinued in the US and Europe.

Wii U is dead, ninfags. DEAD. D E A D.



This isn't even fun anymore.  Lets focus our attention on Microsoft now.   


If I were Mama Robotnik, I'd make a gif about the WiiU from the Simpsons scene where Mr. Burns spits out the 3-Eyed Fish, the reporters take photos of it mid-air, and leave declaring him a loser in the elections before it hits the ground :lol
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Stoney Mason on February 15, 2013, 11:05:42 AM
I always like to be rationale and non-extreme but those numbers have to be terrifying to Nintendo. They are in a bad spot.

And all that gaf talk about releasing a new zelda, and mario kart, etc. If they think that is the answer to get them to the promised land, then they are deluding themselves. That works when you have a trojan system like the Wii, where everybody and his brother has one. When they are in the situation they are in now, all that is gonna do is create another gamecube.

Their system costs too much relative to what it offers. They are smack dab in the middle of a console contraction/correction. The core market is far more interested in PS4/720. And the PS3 and 360 still exist and are cheaper than you. It's like a perfect storm of getting fucked.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Don Flamenco on February 15, 2013, 11:10:58 AM
Any ideas how the WiiU compares to N64 sales?   Those sales had to be pretty low, but maybe I'm underestimating Mario 64's attraction. 
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Momo on February 15, 2013, 11:11:57 AM
Quote from: Premium Lager on February 15, 2013, 05:39:32 AM
I love the smell of meltdowns in the morning  :lol
This seems like an unfair dig at me and accusation of bias that I don't think is relevant to the discussion at hand. I'd ask you to stop and, if you choose to proceed, will ask for mod attention to it.

Thanks.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on February 15, 2013, 11:15:02 AM
gaf doesn't like Bloomberg article...
I like how they are dismissing Apple influence.

Quote
This seems like an unfair dig at me and accusation of bias that I don't think is relevant to the discussion at hand. I'd ask you to stop and, if you choose to proceed, will ask for mod attention to it.

Thanks.
:rofl
Who said that?
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: hampster on February 15, 2013, 11:17:39 AM
Woke up to news that its 57k, not 55k as 'reported' last night. I think a lot of people in this thread who piled on Nintendo without waiting for confirmed numbers owe them an apology.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Stoney Mason on February 15, 2013, 11:19:24 AM
Quote from: maxy on February 15, 2013, 11:15:02 AM
gaf doesn't like Bloomberg article...
I like how they are dismissing Apple influence.

Quote
This seems like an unfair dig at me and accusation of bias that I don't think is relevant to the discussion at hand. I'd ask you to stop and, if you choose to proceed, will ask for mod attention to it.

Thanks.
:rofl
Who said that?

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=47755738&postcount=3184
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: headwalk on February 15, 2013, 11:25:07 AM
Quote from: Momo on February 15, 2013, 11:11:57 AM
Quote from: Premium Lager on February 15, 2013, 05:39:32 AM
I love the smell of meltdowns in the morning  :lol
This seems like an unfair dig at me and accusation of bias that I don't think is relevant to the discussion at hand. I'd ask you to stop and, if you choose to proceed, will ask for mod attention to it.

Thanks.
i wonder if he put on his fedora just to type that.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Stoney Mason on February 15, 2013, 11:30:42 AM
It only keeps getting better. If this hadn't been a 5 week NPD January the number would be


Quote
The Wii U sold just 46,000 hardware units in January at brick and mortar locations — a shockingly low number for a console that was just released in late November. To put it in perspective, the Wii sold 348,000 units during that system's comparable period in 2007.


http://www.cnbc.com/id/100463756

Not sure how they arrived at that number though unless they asked for the 4 week numbers and just didn't do a little simple math division.

edit: Ah I see.

Quote
Officially, according to NPD data, Nintendo has sold 57,000 Wii U units this year. The adjusted figure of 46,000 is a more accurate comparison to the 2007 figures, though, due to reporting calendar irregularities. (January's NPD results are a skewed due to the addition of a "leap week" the group has to add every five or six years to balance its reporting periods. NPD measures the year into 12 reporting periods of four or five weeks. That results in some date discrepancies, which require the leap week to be added occasionally.)

No big deal really. Its terrible either way. Next month should also be fun as its a real 4 week NPD.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Steve Contra on February 15, 2013, 11:46:11 AM
When is the next release for the Wii U that anyone could reasonably buy a console for, or is there just not anything yet?
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Mr. Gundam on February 15, 2013, 11:48:37 AM
Quote from: Steve Contra on February 15, 2013, 11:46:11 AM
When is the nest release for the Wii U that anyone could reasonably buy a console for, or is there just not anything yet?

The deluded seem to think Lego City or whatever is going to light the world on fire, and then after that is the Monster Hunter 3DS up-port.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Raban on February 15, 2013, 11:59:06 AM
Quote from: Borys on February 15, 2013, 08:52:44 AM
GAF at the moment:

- MS has gone off the deep end and is only about that Apple money with Netflix/ Hulu/ Smart Glass and other non games. They will fail miserably.
- Nintendo is stuck in the past and nobody will remember that Wii U even exist when PS4 hits. Something somethign Retro FPS something something saviour of Wii U something something.
- Sony is the true saviour of console gaming. Lots of "current 360 owners" are jumping ship and going PS4 exclusive this gen. Like they really own a 360 now, yeah right...

The perfect time for that GAF documentary to be compiling data.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Fifstar on February 15, 2013, 12:20:35 PM
Quote from: Stoney Mason on February 15, 2013, 11:19:24 AM
Quote from: maxy on February 15, 2013, 11:15:02 AM
gaf doesn't like Bloomberg article...
I like how they are dismissing Apple influence.

Quote
This seems like an unfair dig at me and accusation of bias that I don't think is relevant to the discussion at hand. I'd ask you to stop and, if you choose to proceed, will ask for mod attention to it.

Thanks.
:rofl
Who said that?

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=47755738&postcount=3184

Goddamn, ShockingAlberto has fallen.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Don Flamenco on February 15, 2013, 12:21:47 PM
that's how you say "MODS HALP" like a gentlemen
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on February 15, 2013, 12:28:47 PM
I hope y'all are enjoying yourselfs, I know I am.

This new gen is shaping up delish.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Human Snorenado on February 15, 2013, 12:36:30 PM
Quote from: Premium Lager on February 15, 2013, 12:28:47 PM
I hope y'all are enjoying yourselfs, I know I am.

This new gen is shaping up delish.

The best part is that this is going to keep happening once a month for the foreseeable future, with the faithful ninthing's responses just getting worse and worse each time.

Shit, and we've got the Sony thing in five days, and you KNOW they're going to show a bunch of BS videos where you can make out every pore in Drake's skin or whatever, forever annihilating the nintards' hopes that the weeeeeeooooooooo was in fact a next gen console.

BU BU BU BU BU GRAFIX DON'T MATTER MAN IT'S ALL 'BOUT DAT WHIMSY
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Great Rumbler on February 15, 2013, 12:37:31 PM
Quote from: Premium Lager on February 15, 2013, 12:28:47 PM
I hope y'all are enjoying yourselfs, I know I am.

This new gen is shaping up delish.

Since I'm off the console bandwagon [and the games I really want are now getting made through Kickstarter], I can sit back and enjoy this regardless of how the next generation goes.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Great Rumbler on February 15, 2013, 12:37:40 PM
.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Human Snorenado on February 15, 2013, 12:37:55 PM
Quote from: Great Rumbler on February 15, 2013, 12:37:31 PM
Since I'm off the console bandwagon [and the games I really want are now getting made through Kickstarter], I can sit back and enjoy this regardless of the next generation goes.

*fist-bump*
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Purple Filth on February 15, 2013, 12:40:44 PM
with Sony showing in 5 days its gonna get even more magical  :lol
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on February 15, 2013, 01:02:29 PM
Quote from: Creepy Old Guy on February 15, 2013, 12:36:30 PM
Quote from: Premium Lager on February 15, 2013, 12:28:47 PM
I hope y'all are enjoying yourselfs, I know I am.

This new gen is shaping up delish.

The best part is that this is going to keep happening once a month for the foreseeable future, with the faithful ninthing's responses just getting worse and worse each time.

Shit, and we've got the Sony thing in five days, and you KNOW they're going to show a bunch of BS videos where you can make out every pore in Drake's skin or whatever, forever annihilating the nintards' hopes that the weeeeeeooooooooo was in fact a next gen console.

BU BU BU BU BU GRAFIX DON'T MATTER MAN IT'S ALL 'BOUT DAT WHIMSY

But if imagine if sony delivers a huge turd too. Imagine the confusion.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on February 15, 2013, 01:15:26 PM
http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/186741/At_57K_sold_Wii_Us_January_performance_is_historically_abysmal.php#.UR55Gx2gr0c
(http://www.gamesetwatch.com/weakest-month-by-console-v2.png)

Notice first three figures(months).
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Flannel Boy on February 15, 2013, 01:18:00 PM
GameCube's weakest sales rate occurred the month before the wii launched and wii's weakes sales rate occurred the month before the Wii U launched. RIP
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: AdmiralViscen on February 15, 2013, 01:27:07 PM
Quote from: Premium Lager on February 15, 2013, 01:02:29 PM
Quote from: Creepy Old Guy on February 15, 2013, 12:36:30 PM
Quote from: Premium Lager on February 15, 2013, 12:28:47 PM
I hope y'all are enjoying yourselfs, I know I am.

This new gen is shaping up delish.

The best part is that this is going to keep happening once a month for the foreseeable future, with the faithful ninthing's responses just getting worse and worse each time.

Shit, and we've got the Sony thing in five days, and you KNOW they're going to show a bunch of BS videos where you can make out every pore in Drake's skin or whatever, forever annihilating the nintards' hopes that the weeeeeeooooooooo was in fact a next gen console.

BU BU BU BU BU GRAFIX DON'T MATTER MAN IT'S ALL 'BOUT DAT WHIMSY

But if imagine if sony delivers a huge turd too. Imagine the confusion.

I hope it's just a Walkman relaunch.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Joe Molotov on February 15, 2013, 01:50:50 PM
Quote from: maxy on February 15, 2013, 01:15:26 PM
http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/186741/At_57K_sold_Wii_Us_January_performance_is_historically_abysmal.php#.UR55Gx2gr0c
(http://www.gamesetwatch.com/weakest-month-by-console-v2.png)

Notice first three figures(months).

All aboard the failboat, toot toot!
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on February 15, 2013, 10:19:05 PM
 :shh
Quote
Vita ~ 34k (cod bundle ~ 40%)
level5 ~ 112k
Capcom may cry ~ 187k (PS3 ~ 52%)

Quote
Black ~ 83%
White ~ 17%

200k < PS3 < 250k and more closer to 200k
100k < Wii < 150k and more closer to 100k
100k < 3DS < 150k and more closer to 150k
50K < DS < 100K and more closer to 50k
PSP ~ 10k

Quote
u top 20 sw

nsmbu
su
sonic
zombi
cod
batman
mickey
jd4
ac3
skylanders
nfl13
espn
wipeout
nland
rabbids
avengers
nba
ng3re
sing party
fifa
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: AdmiralViscen on February 15, 2013, 10:27:02 PM
Nintendo handhelds are pretty dire, too
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on February 15, 2013, 10:36:52 PM
Looks like COD is Vita system selling game.

Activision :bow2
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Joe Molotov on February 15, 2013, 10:41:52 PM
So is 112k pretty good for Ni no Kuni? I don't know.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on February 15, 2013, 10:44:00 PM
Quote from: Joe Molotov on February 15, 2013, 10:41:52 PM
So is 112k pretty good for Ni no Kuni? I don't know.
Depends,do you think Tales games sell well in US?
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Joe Molotov on February 15, 2013, 10:48:25 PM
Quote from: maxy on February 15, 2013, 10:44:00 PM
Quote from: Joe Molotov on February 15, 2013, 10:41:52 PM
So is 112k pretty good for Ni no Kuni? I don't know.
Depends,do you think Tales games sell well in US?

I dunno, they keep coming out.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 15, 2013, 11:31:47 PM
So can someone explain this Lego City thing and why Nfans are convinced it will save the system. It's multi console right? I don't get this at all
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Trent Dole on February 15, 2013, 11:44:42 PM
Quote from: Phoenix Dark on February 15, 2013, 11:31:47 PM
So can someone explain this Lego City thing and why Nfans are convinced it will save the system. It's multi console right? I don't get this at all
Lego Established Product (Star Wars, Batman, Etc.) games have always sold especially well on Ninty consoles and this is a U exclusive... I watched the preview vid for it on GB and the humor seemed like it'd be lame to anyone with an age of two digits or more. So basically catnip for core N enthusiasts? A Lego sandbox world doesn't seem like a bad thing to play around in honestly but as always with exclusives there's more enthusiasm than deserved for this thing.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Barry Egan on February 16, 2013, 12:01:55 AM
Quote from: Phoenix Dark on February 15, 2013, 11:31:47 PM
So can someone explain this Lego City thing and why Nfans are convinced it will save the system. It's multi console right? I don't get this at all

I remember back in the Gamecube days I thought people were desperate for saying exclusives like Eternal Darkness and Star Fox Adventures were going to help the system out of last place.  I had no idea how low standards could go, and how quickly. 
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Purple Filth on February 16, 2013, 12:04:12 AM
these numbers are terrible imo  :-\
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: iconoclast on February 16, 2013, 01:07:23 AM
It makes me happy to see NG3 and DmC flop so hard.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Rahxephon91 on February 16, 2013, 04:46:12 AM
Lego City as an openworld game looks pretty cool, but the subject material just isn't for me.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cascade on February 16, 2013, 04:55:48 AM
 :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol

DS outsold Wii U!
Quote from: Creamsugar
Yes, DS > Wii U
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: benjipwns on February 16, 2013, 05:00:45 AM
Quote from: Phoenix Dark on February 15, 2013, 11:31:47 PM
So can someone explain this Lego City thing and why Nfans are convinced it will save the system. It's multi console right? I don't get this at all
It's all they've got right now?

I think it could be a pretty cool game (for the Lego series anyway) considering how Batman and other Lego games have been going. But I really can't imagine that anyone seriously thinks it's staying Wii U exclusive. Unless it massively bombs (or is somehow only possible with the Wii U controller*), how is this not coming out in the Fall for everything else?

*:spin
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Don Flamenco on February 16, 2013, 08:00:53 AM
Quote from: iconoclast on February 16, 2013, 01:07:23 AM
It makes me happy to see NG3 and DmC flop so hard.


mission comprete.  let that be a lesson, action game devs. 
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on February 18, 2013, 04:59:05 AM
http://www.chart-track.co.uk/index.jsp?c=p/software/uk/latest/index_test.jsp&ct=110032

lol
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: archnemesis on February 18, 2013, 05:04:24 AM
Look at that! A Vita game. They must be clearing out stock. I picked up a copy for next to nothing the other day.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Rahxephon91 on February 19, 2013, 08:20:30 AM
I guess this is the place to ask, though I'm not sure how great Oscar knows the games, but here we go.

What are the chances of Xseed localizing the new Legend of Heroe's PS3/Vita game? I would think pretty good thanks to their relationship with Falcom and the fact that it's on systems that are alive in North America.

On the flip side I guess thanks to the amount of text and voice work supposedly this wouldn't be an easy game to localize? I don't know just an assumption.  There's also the fact that the game is part of a very connected series plotwise and according to the comment section on Siliconera(yes I know) that would keep it from coming here. I don't really see that at a problem. Would the game be impossible to enjoy without playing the other games? Maybe, It's not yet so I guess know one really knows. But I just don't see why that would be a problem in choosing to localize the game, not like America hasn't gotten it's Japanese imports out of order before.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Van Cruncheon on February 19, 2013, 11:57:10 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on February 16, 2013, 05:09:57 AM
Yeah, there's no way it's anything other than a timed exclusive.  The LEGO guys are probably sweating, though.  More than half of their sales were on Wii versions in the past... with the WiiU faceplanting, their little money factory is suddenly a lot less profitable.

I mean, provided the LEGO guys aren't already in "KILL ME" mode from being forced to make LEGO games forever.

traveller's tales? they've always been whores. dependable, well managed whores, mind you, but shameless nonetheless
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Momo on February 20, 2013, 12:14:27 AM
Where can I find the best sales trackers for EU? Willing to cobble together data if needed.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on February 20, 2013, 07:22:46 AM
Check gaf pal charts.

In other news
http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2013-02-20-sony-sells-off-m3-shares-as-part-of-reorganisation
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Will boost Q4 operating profit by $1.23 billion


Sony Corporation is expected to raise ¥115 billion ($1.23 bn / £798m) in operating profit for the fourth quarter from the sale of shares of its subsidiary medical services business M3.

The company announced today it is selling 6 per cent of M3, or 95,000 shares, but will remain the major shareholder in the business.

New MC data
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3DS LL   66,139
3DS   31,832
PS3   16,934
Wii U   10,744
PSP   10,501
Vita   8,044
Wii   1,655
Xbox 360   506
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Media Create Sales: Week 7, 2013 (Feb 11 - Feb 17)

01./01. [3DS] Dragon Quest VII: Fighters of Eden <RPG> (Square Enix) {2013.02.07} (¥6.090) - 184.993 / 1.012.916 (-78%)
02./02. [3DS] Animal Crossing: New Leaf # <ETC> (Nintendo) {2012.11.08} (¥4.800) - 78.178 / 2.591.602 (-4%)
03./04. [3DS] New Super Mario Bros. 2 # <ACT> (Nintendo) {2012.07.28} (¥4.800) - 11.784 / 1.922.492 (+1%)
04./06. [WII] Taiko no Tatsujin Wii: Super Deluxe Edition # <ACT> (Bandai Namco Games) {2012.11.29} (¥5.040) - 10.076 / 396.225 (+14%)
05./05. [3DS] Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate (Best Price!) <ACT> (Capcom) {2012.11.15} (¥3.800) - 9.138 / 227.235 (-13%)
06./03. [3DS] Fantasy Life <RPG> (Level 5) {2012.12.27} (¥5.800) - 8.751 / 230.471 (-34%)
07./09. [3DS] Taiko no Tatsujin: Chibi Dragon to Fushigi na Orb <ACT> (Bandai Namco Games) {2012.07.12} (¥5.040) - 7.331 / 423.364 (-2%)
08./12. [3DS] Paper Mario: Sticker Star <ADV> (Nintendo) {2012.12.06} (¥4.800) - 6.847 / 524.944 (+6%)
09./10. [3DS] Tousouchuu: Shijou Saikyou no Hunter-Tachi Kara Nigekire! <ACT> (Bandai Namco Games) {2012.07.05} (¥5.040) - 6.614 / 427.429 (-10%)
10./16. [3DS] Mario Kart 7 <RCE> (Nintendo) {2011.12.01} (¥4.800) - 5.817 / 1.978.257 (+3%)
11./14. [WIU] New Super Mario Bros. U <ACT> (Nintendo) {2012.12.08} (¥5.985) - 5.671 / 466.457 (-3%)
12./00. [PSV] Sakura-Sou no Pet na Kanojo # <ADV> (Kadokawa Games) {2013.02.14} (¥6.804) - 5.472 / NEW
13./13. [3DS] Inazuma Eleven Go 2: Chrono Stone - Neppuu / Raimei <RPG> (Level 5) {2012.12.13} (¥5.500) - 5.348 / 419.554 (-13%)
14./00. [PSP] Sakura-Sou no Pet na Kanojo # <ADV> (Kadokawa Games) {2013.02.14} (¥6.279) - 5.115 / NEW
15./18. [PS3] Call of Duty: Black Ops II - Dubbed Edition <ACT> (Square Enix) {2012.12.20} (¥7.980) - 4.828 / 128.939 (-3%)
16./19. [WIU] Nintendo Land <ETC> (Nintendo) {2012.12.08} (¥4.935) - 4.199 / 290.677 (-6%)
17./07. [PSV] Demon Gaze <RPG> (Kadokawa Games) {2013.01.24} (¥6.090) - 4.083 / 47.993 (-50%)
18./23. [NDS] Pokèmon Black 2 / White 2 <RPG> (Pokèmon Co.) {2012.06.23} (¥4.800) - 3.966 / 2.966.056
19./08. [PS3] DmC: Devil May Cry <ACT> (Capcom) {2013.01.17} (¥6.990) - 3.938 / 168.627 (-47%)
20./20. [PS3] Fist of the North Star: Ken's Rage 2 # <ACT> (Koei Tecmo) {2012.12.20} (¥8.190) - 3.527 / 235.577 (-18%)

Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Great Rumbler on February 20, 2013, 09:54:54 AM
Japan = 3DS Land
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Joe Molotov on February 20, 2013, 10:08:14 AM
LOL, why is Japan even still making console games?

Devil May  :'(
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Mr. Gundam on February 20, 2013, 12:51:56 PM
At this rate, I'd be shocked if Tri Ace made another console game any time soon.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on February 25, 2013, 12:23:39 PM
Some interesting Skullgirls stuff


Adding one character to Skullgirls
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$48,000: Staff Salaries - 8 people for 10 weeks

$30,000: Animation and Clean-up Contracting

$4,000: Voice recording

$2,000: Hit-box Contracting

$5,000: Audio Implementation Contracting

$20,000: QA Testing

$10,000: 1st Party Certification

$10,500: IndieGoGo and Payment Processing Fees

$20,500: Manufacturing and Shipping Physical Perks

http://kotaku.com/5986592/it-will-blow-your-mind-to-see-how-much-it-costs-to-add-one-new-character-to-a-fighting-game
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on February 25, 2013, 12:41:49 PM
That's why there is planned DLC.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Don Flamenco on February 25, 2013, 12:48:56 PM
The gaf thread actually ticked me off a little bit.   so much venomous ignorance.   wtf, people are saying it doesn't actually cost that much, so what the hell are they actually saying?  The skullgirls devs are trying to scam the whole world to split up $150k between the 10 people that work there?  :roll   

as a veteran creator of Kaz gifs, I have to say that number sounds way off   :greenshinobi
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: mjemirzian on February 25, 2013, 01:01:16 PM
Gaf is the poster child for arrogant ignorance.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Don Flamenco on February 25, 2013, 01:05:56 PM
http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/333003?show_todos=true

here's the indie go-go.  I think i'll get the $30 one.   

how much can I sell that TF2 hat for :smug
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Sho Nuff on February 25, 2013, 02:03:38 PM
Quote from: Don Flamenco on February 25, 2013, 12:48:56 PM
The gaf thread actually ticked me off a little bit.   so much venomous ignorance.   wtf, people are saying it doesn't actually cost that much, so what the hell are they actually saying?  The skullgirls devs are trying to scam the whole world to split up $150k between the 10 people that work there?  :roll   

as a veteran creator of Kaz gifs, I have to say that number sounds way off   :greenshinobi

NUH UH MODDERS DO THIS KIND OF THING FOR FREE

MAN I CAN'T WAIT FOR THE MUGEN FINALS AT EVO
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: archie4208 on February 25, 2013, 02:05:12 PM
Quote from: Sho Nuff on February 25, 2013, 02:03:38 PM
Quote from: Don Flamenco on February 25, 2013, 12:48:56 PM
The gaf thread actually ticked me off a little bit.   so much venomous ignorance.   wtf, people are saying it doesn't actually cost that much, so what the hell are they actually saying?  The skullgirls devs are trying to scam the whole world to split up $150k between the 10 people that work there?  :roll   

as a veteran creator of Kaz gifs, I have to say that number sounds way off   :greenshinobi

NUH UH MODDERS DO THIS KIND OF THING FOR FREE

MAN I CAN'T WAIT FOR THE MUGEN FINALS AT EVO

Omega Tom Hanks is OP nerf plz
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Don Flamenco on February 25, 2013, 02:07:55 PM
The MLP fighting game devs didn't have to charge money for their game, so why does skullgirls cost money what a scam


my arguments by analogy are flawless
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on February 25, 2013, 03:20:37 PM
Quote from: Don Flamenco on February 25, 2013, 12:48:56 PM
The gaf thread actually ticked me off a little bit.   so much venomous ignorance.   wtf, people are saying it doesn't actually cost that much, so what the hell are they actually saying?  The skullgirls devs are trying to scam the whole world to split up $150k between the 10 people that work there?  :roll   

as a veteran creator of Kaz gifs, I have to say that number sounds way off   :greenshinobi

People generally have no idea how much things cost.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Joe Molotov on February 25, 2013, 03:26:34 PM
Quote from: Premium Lager on February 25, 2013, 03:20:37 PM
Quote from: Don Flamenco on February 25, 2013, 12:48:56 PM
The gaf thread actually ticked me off a little bit.   so much venomous ignorance.   wtf, people are saying it doesn't actually cost that much, so what the hell are they actually saying?  The skullgirls devs are trying to scam the whole world to split up $150k between the 10 people that work there?  :roll   

as a veteran creator of Kaz gifs, I have to say that number sounds way off   :greenshinobi

People generally have no idea how much things cost.

Skullgirls costs $15 on XBLA, now release the DLC, lazy devs.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: pilonv1 on February 25, 2013, 05:59:11 PM
Quote from: Don Flamenco on February 25, 2013, 01:05:56 PM
http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/333003?show_todos=true

here's the indie go-go.  I think i'll get the $30 one.   

how much can I sell that TF2 hat for :smug

How much do I need to contribute to get it!?
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Don Flamenco on February 25, 2013, 06:05:58 PM
$30, limited to 5000 backers (at about 500 right now)
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: brawndolicious on February 25, 2013, 06:42:13 PM
Anybody want a sealed AC3? Would trade for BLOPS2 or maybe something else.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: pilonv1 on February 25, 2013, 06:47:29 PM
$30 for one hat isn't good value. Bioshock is giving up 5-6 for $50
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Joe Molotov on February 25, 2013, 08:41:47 PM
Quote from: pilonv1 on February 25, 2013, 06:47:29 PM
$30 for one hat isn't good value. Bioshock is giving up 5-6 for $50

But it's more limited, you have to figure that into your cost-benefit-hat analysis.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: pilonv1 on February 25, 2013, 08:49:39 PM
No one wants a Skullgirls hat regardless of how limited it is
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Steve Contra on February 25, 2013, 08:51:14 PM
Quote from: pilonv1 on February 25, 2013, 08:49:39 PM
No one wants a Skullgirls hat regardless of how limited it is
Apparently 811 people in one day want the hat.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: pilonv1 on February 25, 2013, 08:52:47 PM
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Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Don Flamenco on February 25, 2013, 09:54:22 PM
$100k in one day.  hold that shit 


i just want the pc version, but i'll sell one of you the hat for like $250.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: huckleberry on February 25, 2013, 09:59:09 PM
btw how do people sell those hats in tf2? i have people messaging me every day about it....alot the time they are gaffers.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Joe Molotov on February 25, 2013, 10:48:35 PM
Steam has an built-in auction house now for selling TF2 stuff. Before that, you used Paypal and hoped the other person didn't rip you off.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: brawndolicious on February 26, 2013, 05:32:39 AM
Are these hats just hats? Like little cosmetic customization that tells everybody playing with you how much time/money you spent on the game?

Which is why Valve  regulated the privates sales of these things? It's like drug addiction for your ego.

Who wants a copy of Assassin's Creed 3 motherfuckas? Sealed copy with the shrinkwrap still on. And another copy with no shrinkwrap and a used multiplayer code (so it's worth less). If I recognize your username, I can send first. Really just looking for a trade of either Black Ops 2 or maybe something else if you have it (I haven't bought any game other than AC3 in the last 6 months).
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: pilonv1 on February 26, 2013, 05:35:21 AM
Quote from: am nintenho on February 26, 2013, 05:32:39 AM
Are these hats just hats? Like little cosmetic customization that tells everybody playing with you how much time/money you spent on the game?

Yes. But most of them you get from playing, crafting or pre-ordering games you wanted anyway (Deus Ex had some awesome items). They're not necessarily cash dumps.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: hampster on February 26, 2013, 03:30:49 PM
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Brian Provinciano - @BriProv (creator of Retro City Rampage)
https://twitter.com/BriProv

Indies should definitely jump onto the PS Vita. RCR's sold much more on PSN than XBLA and more on PS Vita than even PS3.

@psnstores This doesn't include PS Plus. It's _SOLD_ far more on PSN than XBLA. With PS Plus, there are a bajillion more copies out there

@werezompire Steam's done far better than XBLA too, but PSN has still done the best.

:bow Vita :bow2
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: AdmiralViscen on February 26, 2013, 04:55:34 PM
Didn't it come out like 3 months earlier on PSN?

Surprised Vita > PS3 tho


I bought it on 360 and have barely played it, it does seem better suited to something like the Vita. oh well
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Don Flamenco on February 26, 2013, 05:36:50 PM
yeah i was gonna say the late launch on 360 probably did that.  it's not like a 360 owner who was really excited about it couldn't run the thing on even the cheapest PC available today. 
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Don Flamenco on February 26, 2013, 06:00:46 PM
The hat is a WIP, but here it is so far.  Looks like it's the new character's weird brain worm thing:

(http://d2oadd98wnjs7n.cloudfront.net/medias/679769/pictures/full/20130226124923-TF2Hat_Leviathan_Test_Small.jpg?1361911768)
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Don Flamenco on February 27, 2013, 01:46:21 PM
18 page discussion about the hat :lol

http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3083219
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Purple Filth on February 27, 2013, 02:31:09 PM
Seems MGR sold good enough in Japan so congrats to Platinum and crew.

http://www.famitsu.com/news/201302/27029488.html

Now to see NA response.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: mjemirzian on February 27, 2013, 03:41:58 PM
Quote from: Purple Filth on February 27, 2013, 02:31:09 PM
Now to see NA response.
Ninja Theory will make Donte into a cyborg for DmC Too.

Oh, you mean sales response? Pretty good for a Platinum game I'd think.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Shaka Khan on February 28, 2013, 12:45:24 AM
Wii U is sub 10k this week in Japan. I'm not sure how they'll manage to jolt those sales when there are no (notable?) releases for 7-8 weeks.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Eel O'Brian on February 28, 2013, 12:55:00 AM
8GB DDR5 expansion pack
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Great Rumbler on February 28, 2013, 01:01:39 AM
Quote from: Shaka Khan on February 28, 2013, 12:45:24 AM
Wii U is sub 10k this week in Japan. I'm not sure how they'll manage to jolt those sales when there are no (notable?) releases for 7-8 weeks.

I think it actually took the Vita longer to drop below 10k.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: mjemirzian on February 28, 2013, 01:07:43 AM
Quote from: Eel O'Brian on February 28, 2013, 12:55:00 AM
8GB DDR5 expansion pack
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51BYD6JR7KL._SL500_SS500_.jpg

Just dying to be shooped into a Wii U image.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Trent Dole on February 28, 2013, 03:16:02 AM
Yeah, it's really weird how this keeps happening for nintendo consoles. Not your first fucking rodeo by a longshot guys, how and why do you let this keep happening? :derp
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Himu on February 28, 2013, 03:23:56 AM
Quote from: Trent Dole on February 28, 2013, 03:16:02 AM
Yeah, it's really weird how this keeps happening for nintendo consoles. Not your first fucking rodeo by a longshot guys, how and why do you let this keep happening? :derp

Um.

I'm not sure if you've heard of it but this thing called the wii was at the top of charts for years right from release.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: benjipwns on February 28, 2013, 03:30:12 AM
What's the Wii Sports that's going to sell the WiiU by itself during the gap before the Nintendo franchises pour in?

GameCube had Smash and Wii had Twilight Princess at least.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: benjipwns on February 28, 2013, 03:45:07 AM
Looking back at the Wii release list you do get basically every "big" franchise, Zelda, Mario, Metroid, Paper Mario, Mario Party, Mario Kart, Smash Bros in the first couple years along with the Wii Fit, Wii Play, etc. that ate up the charts. Then 2009 has Wii Sports Resort and NSMB.

GameCube actually looks pretty barren in retrospect. (Though I like a good number of those titles.)

All I know about Wii U (which admittingly isn't much) is that there's a Mario Kart and Smash Bros coming at some point along with a Wii Fit and Wii Party. And of course there will be a Zelda, Mario, etc. eventually.

EDIT: Looking at the full Wii list I can see why I was able to stick with Wii/PC for so long, there was a pretty decent clip of stuff coming out those first few years. (Factor in how most everything else I wanted was getting or was a PC release.)
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: benjipwns on February 28, 2013, 04:02:39 AM
Remember when we talked about a "third pillar"?
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Don Flamenco on February 28, 2013, 04:05:17 AM
Quote from: benjipwns on February 28, 2013, 03:30:12 AM
What's the Wii Sports that's going to sell the WiiU by itself during the gap before the Nintendo franchises pour in?

GameCube had Smash and Wii had Twilight Princess at least.


Wii Hubris was a major flop...
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: archnemesis on February 28, 2013, 04:05:38 AM
It might be too late now, but they need to release several good games and make sure that the price is more attractive than the PS4's price. I think a general issue for Nintendo is that they aren't really able to support multiple systems simultaneously by themselves. For that they need some extra help from third-parties.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: archnemesis on February 28, 2013, 04:12:45 AM
Quote from: benjipwns on February 28, 2013, 03:30:12 AM
What's the Wii Sports that's going to sell the WiiU by itself during the gap before the Nintendo franchises pour in?
I think the audience that was interested in Wii Sports and Wii Fit has moved on and neither of their Wii U successors will sell particularly well. Mario Kart, Smash Brothers, and 3D Mario are still going to be as popular as ever though. If they want a system seller for a wider audience they will have to come up with something new and that will take time.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: DCharlieJP on February 28, 2013, 04:22:44 AM
BU BU BU IT HAS MONSTER HUNTER -AND- DQX!

I tried to warn people but hey....

Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: MCD on February 28, 2013, 04:24:15 AM
You bought one, dcharlie.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: benjipwns on February 28, 2013, 04:24:19 AM
Quote from: archnemesis on February 28, 2013, 04:12:45 AM
I think the audience that was interested in Wii Sports and Wii Fit has moved on and neither of their Wii U successors will sell particularly well. Mario Kart, Smash Brothers, and 3D Mario are still going to be as popular as ever though. If they want a system seller for a wider audience they will have to come up with something new and that will take time.
I'm not sure they've necessarily moved on, but the Wii U certainly isn't what they wanted more of. If they even know what it really is.

If I had to just guess I'd figure Kinect sucks up most of that audience depending on how it's centered in the next Xbox. (People already in and people who will migrate over from the Wii over the next cycle.)

The odd thing is that, at least from my perspective, the Move seems like the better tool to really consolidate that swath of people who want from Just Dance to many standard games but Sony seems to have no clue what the fuck to do with it. From an outside view, it doesn't appear to reject "normal" games like the Wii and Kinect inherently did/do.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Don Flamenco on February 28, 2013, 04:47:35 AM
the Wii thing was a one shot deal.  The people who bought it didn't buy it because they suddenly became gamers.  I know the joke is that people were minimizing it by saying it was a trend during the years when it just kept selling more and more, but it was a trend after all.  Just a big one.  They aren't getting that back, it's back to Gamecube/N64 performance for Nintendo's home consoles, if not much worse. 
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: benjipwns on February 28, 2013, 04:52:54 AM
It's a trend in terms of how open more and more people are to games now. (And I think the Playstation expansion era also represented that.) If Nintendo had anything to do with it outside of the Wii it was probably entirely through the recognizably of Mario and the Nintendo brand as a brand-generic for "video game." (As much as that still lingers.)

The Wii U is definitely not the way to keep those people as Nintendo-centric customers and I've never understood how it was supposed to be.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: archnemesis on February 28, 2013, 05:06:49 AM
Quote from: benjipwns on February 28, 2013, 04:52:54 AM
The Wii U is definitely not the way to keep those people as Nintendo-centric customers and I've never understood how it was supposed to be.
I think it could work in theory. The people I know who really enjoyed Wii Sports are the same who loved Singstar before they moved on to Guitar Hero and then to board games. Kinect dance games are really popular in other places, but they haven't really caught on here. My point is that there is a demand for social living room activities and the asymmetrical games shown in Nintendo Land could very well be excellent for this. Too bad that there isn't any software that really shows off what the system is capable of. I'm sure it could be a big hit with role-playing nerds, jeopardy and trivial pursuit nerds, karaoke nerds and many other sub-groups that already enjoy asymmetrical interactions.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: benjipwns on February 28, 2013, 05:32:44 AM
I still really think the problem is calling it the Wii U. I'd imagine it would be far more successful after seven years to say "it's the new NINTENDO TABUU" and then say "AND IT USES ALL YOUR OLD WII STUFF IN NEW WAYS!!!" or whatever.

This is of course discounting that software factor.  :lol
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: archnemesis on February 28, 2013, 05:40:49 AM
3DS and Wii U are both incredibly stupid names. Nintendo is the more important brand so they're not in the same position as Microsoft and Sony who must call their new products Playstation and Xbox.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: benjipwns on February 28, 2013, 05:51:18 AM
It really is kinda remarkable that in both of their flagship products they've on their own created a situation where even a semi-informed consumer might have to go "is this an upgrade of what I have or is it all new?"

Especially after the Lite, i, XL, etc.

I guess you can go back to when they colored the casings of the Game Boys as I remember some people being confused and thinking it was getting a color display ala Game Gear...still even when they did upgrade in that line: Game Boy, Game Boy POCKET, Game Boy COLOR, Game Boy ADVANCE seemed a lot more distinctive.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Purple Filth on February 28, 2013, 05:53:36 AM
wow

mentioned long ago i would like see WiiU doing vita like numbers for the lulz but i didn't really expect it to be actually happening  :o
Title: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Huff on February 28, 2013, 06:37:28 AM
Gotta assume that Nintendo under estimated HD gaming and is having more problems than other Japanese companies did with the ps360 leap.

Surely they planned to release games and just haven't been able to right?
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: MCD on February 28, 2013, 06:46:34 AM
They are killing Sakurai as we speak.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on February 28, 2013, 06:54:24 AM
Quote from: Shaka Khan on February 28, 2013, 12:45:24 AM
Wii U is sub 10k this week in Japan. I'm not sure how they'll manage to jolt those sales when there are no (notable?) releases for 7-8 weeks.

You left out the part about how the Vita outsold the Wii U:

Vita - 11,456
Wii U - 9,633

Don't worry guys, panic Nintendo is best Nintendo.  A year from now, it will be selling 100,000 units a week.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: archnemesis on February 28, 2013, 07:05:47 AM
It will be interesting to see how much impact the Vita price drop will have next week. I'm only expecting a small bump unless they've timed it with an attractive software release.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on February 28, 2013, 07:06:35 AM
http://newsandinsight.thomsonreuters.com/Legal/News/2013/02_-_February/Inventor_argues_Nintendo_infringed_his_3-D_patent/

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NEW YORK, Feb 26 (Reuters) - A patent infringement trial over 3-D display technology has pit an inventor against videogaming giant Nintendo Co.The patent relates to technology that inventor Seijiro Tomita developed for providing 3-D images without the need for 3-D glasses.

In opening arguments on Monday, Tomita's attorney, Joe Diamante of Stroock & Stroock & Lavan, told a jury in U.S. District Court in Manhattan that Nintendo used technology that the inventor developed for its handheld 3DS videogame system. Tomita is a former longtime Sony Corp employee.But Scott Lindvall of Kaye Scholer, an attorney for the Super Mario Bros franchise creator, said the 3DS doesn't use key aspects of Tomita's patent.

Lindvall also said a 2003 meeting that Tomita cites in his argument was merely one of several the company held with vendors selling 3-D display technology.Tomita sued Nintendo and its U.S. unit in 2011 for patent infringement and is seeking damages.His attorney cited an expert's damage estimate that Tomita is entitled to about $9.80 for every 3DS sold. The 3DS, a colorful cellphone-size product, costs $169.99 on the company's website.The trial is before U.S. District Judge Jed Rakoff.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on February 28, 2013, 09:08:04 AM
Remember that Tokyo building sale rumor?

Sold.

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Feb 28 (Reuters) - Sony Corp has sold one of its most prized Tokyo office buildings to Japanese real estate trust Nippon Building Fund Inc and one other investor for 111 billion yen ($1.2 billion), its second high-profile building sale this year.

The 25-storey Sony City Osaki building, completed in March 2011, houses 5,000 of its workers on a site once known as the "holy land" for Japan's television manufacturing industry, where Sony's Trinitron TV was launched in 1968.

Nippon Building Fund will take a 60 percent stake in the property, while another investor, which Sony did not name, will hold a 40 percent interest in the property, where Sony will continue to work for the next five years.

Last month Sony agreed to sell its U.S. headquarters building in New York City for $1.1 billion, the highest price paid for a single U.S. office property in two years.

It and other Japanese consumer electronics makers are selling assets to bring in cash as they fight to end losses at their television units, besieged by competition from South Korean rivals such as Samsung Electronics Co Ltd.

Sony City Osaki, near the firm's Tokyo headquarters, is the nerve centre of its struggling TV and audio divisions.

The firm expects to report a gain on the sale of around 41 billion yen, to be recorded as operating income in the fourth quarter of the fiscal year that ends in March, it said in a statement.

Before the sale was announced, Sony had forecast net operating profit of 130 billion yen for the full year.

The transaction is the most expensive office property sale in Japan in almost four years, excluding a transfer of a property between two companies in the same group.

Japanese property fund manager Secured Capital bought an office building in central Tokyo's Marunouchi district in 2009 for about 140 billion yen. ($1 = 91.6050 Japanese yen) (Additional reporting by Tim Kelly; Editing by Daniel Magnowski)
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: radioheadrule83 on February 28, 2013, 10:04:15 AM
Quote from: The Experiment on February 28, 2013, 06:54:24 AM
Quote from: Shaka Khan on February 28, 2013, 12:45:24 AM
Wii U is sub 10k this week in Japan. I'm not sure how they'll manage to jolt those sales when there are no (notable?) releases for 7-8 weeks.

You left out the part about how the Vita outsold the Wii U:

Vita - 11,456
Wii U - 9,633

Don't worry guys, panic Nintendo is best Nintendo.  A year from now, it will be selling 100,000 units a week.

I do actually think a year from now it will be beasting the 3DS. Maybe not in Japan. But its a far better system with far better prospects if they can right the ship in a similar way.

Wii U's poor sales aren't so much a result of poor performance or poor design than they are a symptom of poor strategy.

Around 2010 it was obvious that they'd started shifting resources to 3DS and Wii U: the only major games that released in the West after that point were games that were farmed to outside developers, and games that Japan had already seen.

They've definitely had their big internal teams working on Wii U games for a long time... I think they have tried to milk Wii sales a little too long (allowing the brand power to dwindle) - and I think they thought their current Wii U strategy would work as a holdover until the next gen consoles and E3 arrived.

Like 3DS, they released the system without a complete OS. It's slower than it should be and it has had bugs. While most owners are over that or have seen problems fixed, its left a poor first impression and contributed to negative press. I think they thought that the problem with 3DS' launch was that they didn't have a big name like Mario at launch, and I think they thought that NSMBU would rectify that. It's a good game, sure, but I think its too familiar -- the 'new' in the title is almost ironic. I don't think its a very marketable game series for a console launch generally... especially as they bizarrely launched another NSMB on 3DS a few months earlier. I also think the gaming community and online magazine editors expect more than a 2D mario for launch. Whether its right or wrong to hold those expectations is beside the point -- this again, contributed to negative publicity.

As it became clear that this year was becoming the target year for PS4/720, Nintendo did seem to put Wii U's hardware schedule into gear, but they didn't talk about it until quite late on. I think part of this stems from their desire to milk the Wii hardware for all that its worth. It's still selling reasonably well... and in fact, Wii U and Wii sales combined are higher than Wii and Gamecube sales were during the last transition. So you can understand them wanting to do that - but having the Wii still on shelves, with no new releases, is hurting the Wii U. The DS did the same thing to the 3DS when that first launched. Part of me almost thinks it would have been better to completely kill the Wii and DS markets off in stores -- cease production, only sell what's left.

Nintendo were coy about revealing new games when they announced the Wii U. We got Pikmin 3, NSMB and NintendoLand. Nothing more: no sizzle real for their own stuff as has been the usual tradition. This, to me, is a clear indicator of Nintendo's fear of being copied or countered. In a way, going first has been bad for them, because they've gone first but maintained utter secrecy until they've known more about the competition. Instead of taking advantage of this head start, they are STILL holding back on the games they are working on and the games they have planned. I have absolutely no doubt that Retro Studios' game will be amazing, that the next Mario and Zelda will be amazing, and that there are probably games in development we don't even expect -- perhaps something like Wii Sports... and things like Excite Truck and Punch Out, which I don't think anyone expected last gen. So where are they?

Nintendo seem to have thought that their paltry schedule would give room for third party games to perform. They seem to have thought that the console could just skirt by on scraps, and that when the other new consoles were fully unveiled - they could roll out their big guns in response, and they'd have any OS kinks ironed out by then. This must come as a shock to them, but they've actually managed to kill excitement for the machine and any momentum they could have had instead. This is ultimately what has been turning off third parties who might have been more interested had they really whipped up more hype for this thing. TLDR; they should have shown what they were working on - even if it was just target render stuff.

Regarding EA, and the origin schism -- if that rumour has any truth to it, Nintendo need to realise that some of their partners are sharks and that if they are going to enter into collaborations, then they have to have backup plans in case they fall through.

As an owner of the system, I feel confident it has a good future ahead in terms of games... I don't really mind if it ends up another Gamecube in terms of sales, but I do think that would be a shame. They should price drop this thing whenever they can, and tell us about games they're working on ASAP.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: archnemesis on February 28, 2013, 10:19:12 AM
Didn't Oscar recently post a list of what the different Nintendo teams are working on? I don't think there are many secret unannounced projects left. Some of the games they've announced at the Nintendo Direct events are far from being released this year and they don't have enough internal teams to release quality Wii U games on a regular schedule.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: hampster on February 28, 2013, 10:33:42 AM
It’s amazing how little the Wii U has coming after March. Pikmin and Wonderful 101 will release at some point but then what? I wonder if they will finish in time whatever big fall game they were hoping to release given how slowly they are doing everything else

Makes you wonder what the original plan was. Like would we have a real Virtual Console library by now if they didn't need to salvage the OS, things like that
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: archnemesis on February 28, 2013, 10:40:37 AM
Software droughts are always a problem post-launch. I guess they were hoping for third-party publishers to cover the period between now and the next holiday season. I'm sure they will announce some big hitters at E3 that will be released in time for Christmas.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: radioheadrule83 on February 28, 2013, 10:41:08 AM
Quote from: archnemesis on February 28, 2013, 10:19:12 AM
Didn't Oscar recently post a list of what the different Nintendo teams are working on? I don't think there are many secret unannounced projects left. Some of the games they've announced at the Nintendo Direct events are far from being released this year and they don't have enough internal teams to release quality Wii U games on a regular schedule.

I don't know what Oscar posted but when you parse what they actually have shown us from what they haven't, they are still overwhelmingly quiet about whats being worked on:


And of course, there could be third party partnerships we don't know about yet too. They are definitely sitting on information they should be sharing.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on February 28, 2013, 10:42:27 AM
Nintendo really is doomed.

Their marketshare is decreasing, but development costs are going up, even if they will forever be a generation behind costwise they will bleed to death this way eventually.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on February 28, 2013, 10:47:15 AM
So like the whole gaming industry then?
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on February 28, 2013, 11:01:30 AM
 :'(

I think industry will be fine because everyone is looking for new business models, new games etc. Nintendo doesn't.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: AdmiralViscen on February 28, 2013, 11:11:06 AM
I didn't read all that shit, but Nintendo's problem isn't just games. They designed a console based around a concept no one gives a shit about that presents an obstacle to cutting the price.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: archie4208 on February 28, 2013, 11:11:42 AM
Hollywood gaming is dying.  Better start appreciating indie games and hat simulators.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: radioheadrule83 on February 28, 2013, 11:22:39 AM
Quote from: AdmiralViscen on February 28, 2013, 11:11:06 AM
I didn't read all that shit, but Nintendo's problem isn't just games. They designed a console based around a concept no one gives a shit about that presents an obstacle to cutting the price.

Without full transparency in their accounting, I kind of doubt it presents any significant obstacle. The real guts of Wii U are in the console - the controller is a resistive LCD, a broadcom wifi chipset / NFC, two speakers, a 1 megapixel camera and regular normal controls. There's no way the BOM of that thing is over $50. Even a shit attach ratio would have them making money before long.

No-one gives a shit about the concept because there are no hardcore gaming experiences that fully justify it, and too-few 'new' games generally.

If we had an FPS or other online game that used the built in camera for live feeds of other players, or a racing game that allowed you to customise your vehicle with the stylus, or if we had a decent art game, or a music game like Elite Beat Agents -- we'd all be loving the gamepad a lot more. A new Wii Sports or Four Swords type game might have helped us better appreciate the asymmetric idea too.

The absence of truly new software IS the problem. As is the price.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: AdmiralViscen on February 28, 2013, 11:24:23 AM
None of those things will make anyone give a shit about it

If it's so easy to cut the price, where's the price cut? Do you think it is soon? Is it a given that Iwata steps down in one year?
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: radioheadrule83 on February 28, 2013, 12:06:23 PM
Quote from: AdmiralViscen on February 28, 2013, 11:24:23 AM
None of those things will make anyone give a shit about it

If it's so easy to cut the price, where's the price cut? Do you think it is soon? Is it a given that Iwata steps down in one year?

It could be a given if his hints about targets were definitely implying he would and they maintain current course, doing nothing about all this negative press and this manifest downturn in sales. Absolutely, yeah.

I think they're reluctant to cut price, but that they may have to... it's not that cutting price is easy or hard. The thing about price cuts is that they're rarely if ever reversible. If PS4/720 are announced to be $450+ and new Nintendo games win interest, they could conceivably see an uptick in interest following those price announcements! My gut tells me it won't play out quite like that, but I can see the premium SKU at $299 with de facto retailer sales below that before the Summer, or extra games bundled in. I think they could take $100 off the thing without too much blow-back from early adopters, but they'll probably try bundling and other things first.

I think they probably will respond to the lack of current demand, but I don't think they'll do anything before the new FY starts.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Himu on February 28, 2013, 01:58:08 PM
Quote from: MCD on February 28, 2013, 04:24:15 AM
You bought one, dcharlie.

this post :rofl
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on February 28, 2013, 03:49:06 PM
Nintendo has abandoned consoles before due to demand constraints (Gamecube) and can do it again.  I expect some attempts to recapture the Wii base this E3.  I think Nintendo would rather hope that they get a breakout casual hit than try to shore up their hardcore fare (Mario, Zelda, etc.) which is why the "Panic Nintendo is best Nintendo" fare on GAF is wrong.  If they will see Gamecube like performances, they are going to treat it just like the Gamecube.  Since this is The Last Console Generation, who knows if we'll see a Wii U successor if the Wii U doesn't take off.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on February 28, 2013, 08:26:01 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on February 28, 2013, 08:14:14 PM
we've had three market crashes.  interesting who was steering the ship for all three of those.

well, don't keep us in suspense!

https://twitter.com/BenKuchera/status/306773690060795905

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People asking if I think we're going to have another crash. That's like standing in the wreckage and wondering if the plane will be okay.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Joe Molotov on February 28, 2013, 08:55:36 PM
It's not like Glorious Nihon was totally innocent in all of this...
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Eel O'Brian on February 28, 2013, 09:14:56 PM
maybe some surly reluctant prince will assemble a ragtag team of spunky teens to search for the magical talisman that will save the gaming world again

and again

and again

and again

spoiler (click to show/hide)
and again
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Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Steve Contra on February 28, 2013, 09:54:46 PM
Quote from: Premium Lager on February 28, 2013, 11:01:30 AM
:'(

I think industry will be fine because everyone is looking for new business models, new games etc. Nintendo doesn't.
:lol :heh :sabu :rofl
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: tiesto on February 28, 2013, 10:08:47 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on February 28, 2013, 08:14:14 PM
seeing more and more industry people admitting we're in a crash now, albeit a slower one than 1983 or 1977.  made me think of some interesting food for thought.

we've had seven console generations.  the first two were dominated by western developers/game design philosophy and western business practices led the way.  the next four were dominated by japanese developers/game design philosophy and japanese business practices led the way.  the latest was dominated by western developers/game design philosophy and western business practices led the way.

we've had three market crashes.  interesting who was steering the ship for all three of those.

Crash of '77? Honestly this is the first I've ever heard of that. Unless the "crash" was something like mechanical games/pinball? Would love to hear more.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Great Rumbler on February 28, 2013, 10:15:37 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on February 28, 2013, 09:43:25 PM
Quote from: Joe Molotov on February 28, 2013, 08:55:36 PM
It's not like Glorious Nihon was totally innocent in all of this...

oh, certainly.  but it is funny who ends up holding the bomb when it goes off.

spoiler (click to show/hide)
for reals though, i think apple has probably done more to destroy the games industry than pretty much anyone ever.  they never really gave a fuck about games, so they've allowed some very, very unhealthy shit to happen in their ecosystem that is, in the end, probably going to kill the whole thing.  and by whole thing, i mean the games business, not apple's products.
[close]

Steve Jobs continues to torment us from beyond the grave. :maf

I'm okay with a Kickstarter-funded future, though. Far more games I'm really interested in are coming out of there than from AAA, Hollywood gaming. Deal with it, America.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: tiesto on February 28, 2013, 10:17:26 PM
Oh wow, you see I knew about Pong standalones and stuff but never really likened it to a crash or anything. Funny enough, the Fairchild Channel F, was made of a spinoff company that my mom used to work at. I asked her about the game system way back when but she never heard of it.

After this crash, hopefully Nippon will come along to save the day again :uguu
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Flannel Boy on February 28, 2013, 10:19:17 PM
Quote from: Premium Lager on February 28, 2013, 11:01:30 AM
:'(

I think industry will be fine because everyone is looking for new business models, new games etc. Nintendo doesn't.

New business model: http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2013-02-28-parents-refused-refund-by-apple-after-son-spends-1700-on-free-ipad-game
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on March 01, 2013, 04:06:43 AM
There is some drama at gaf about EA microtransactions

CliffyB
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If you don’t like EA, don’t buy their games. If you don’t like their microtransactions, don’t spend money on them. It’s that simple. EA has many smart people working for them (Hi, Frank, JR, and Patrick!) and they wouldn’t attempt these things if they didn’t work. Turns out, they do. I assure you there are teams of analysts studying the numbers behind consumer behavior over there that are studying how you, the gamer, spends his hard earned cash.

If you’re currently raging about this on GAF, or on the IGN forums, or on Gamespot, guess what? You’re the vocal minority. Your average guy that buys just Madden and GTA every year doesn’t know, nor does he care. He has no problem throwing a few bucks more at a game because, hey, why not?

EviLore
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Shit, I had no idea. I figured Ni no Kuni was selling 30 million copies per hour, because it's being talked about a lot on a video game forum. Thanks for clearing that up, Django.

Dismissing arguments and consumer dissatisfaction on a discussion forum with a sweeping hand of "just vote with your wallet and shut up; you're not relevant" is up there toward the height of stupidity, especially when it's being framed on your blog in between soapboxing about what you think the video game industry should be doing differently. Have some perspective.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: mjemirzian on March 01, 2013, 04:20:08 AM
The govt should pass laws protecting hardcore games and gamers from the evils of "just don't buy it" capitalism. ::)

The disgruntled gamer panic is really going to set in with the next xbox reveal. Can't wait.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Shaka Khan on March 01, 2013, 04:23:56 AM
EL is dying to manufacture some Dyack caliber drama with a new developer. I'm voting with my clicks.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: mjemirzian on March 01, 2013, 04:46:05 AM
How dare an industry insider and vet tell us to stop being damp bottomed, myopic, angry, clueless forum warriors! Stop selling DLC and sports games and make Japanese Grindin Adventure 1-10 for us with a $500 million budget! Normal people don't get angry at someone else's success. EA and their DLC in this case. Deal with it.

I see gaf mods still enjoy acting rotten and nasty while hypocritically banning anyone they dislike by stalking their posts until they spot the slightest excuse to do so.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: mjemirzian on March 01, 2013, 05:14:59 AM
Oversized dildo DLC in Gears of War 5.

Sure Cliffy's a hypocrite by criticizing dildos but telling others to shut up about DLC, but riling up gaffers is hilarious.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Rusty Shackleford on March 01, 2013, 05:54:17 AM
Quote from: mjemirzian on March 01, 2013, 04:46:05 AM
I see gaf mods still enjoy acting rotten and nasty while hypocritically banning anyone they dislike by stalking their posts until they spot the slightest excuse to do so.

Just out of curiosity, care to show any examples in the CliffyB thread?  Looks like volpone got nailed in there for voicing an anti-GAF view but I could have missed something. (http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=48580998&postcount=746)
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Momo on March 01, 2013, 06:12:43 AM
My biggest problem with Clifford Blazeupski is he sucks.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: radioheadrule83 on March 01, 2013, 06:36:40 AM
Quote from: Rusty Shackleford on March 01, 2013, 05:54:17 AM
Quote from: mjemirzian on March 01, 2013, 04:46:05 AM
I see gaf mods still enjoy acting rotten and nasty while hypocritically banning anyone they dislike by stalking their posts until they spot the slightest excuse to do so.

Just out of curiosity, care to show any examples in the CliffyB thread?  Looks like volpone got nailed in there for voicing an anti-GAF view but I could have missed something. (http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=48580998&postcount=746)

If he hadn't invoked the 'GAF hivemind' thing, he might have gotten away with that a little more. EL and the mods really don't seem to like that kind of talk..

He didn't actually say anything too unreasonable beyond that.

Cliffy doesn't need to say any more really, business will bear him out - people who don't like it don't really matter. I think trying to have a huge debate with him about it on a forum is a colossal waste of time for all involved.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: mjemirzian on March 01, 2013, 06:40:14 AM
Quote from: radioheadrule83 on March 01, 2013, 06:36:40 AM
a forum is a colossal waste of time for all involved.
Correct. :lol

Quote from: Rusty Shackleford on March 01, 2013, 05:54:17 AM
Just out of curiosity, care to show any examples in the CliffyB thread?  Looks like volpone got nailed in there for voicing an anti-GAF view but I could have missed something. (http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=48580998&postcount=746)
I dunno, haven't looked at the thread. I don't feel like wading through that shit.

Badly behaving, power tripping hypocrite mods seem to gather wherever RPGs are discussed, or they seem to be primarily fans of RPGs. Just an observation.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Eel O'Brian on March 01, 2013, 08:47:15 AM
I think more people are going to vote with their wallets this next generation, but it's going to be out of necessity rather than any real sense of outrage over DLC, microtransactions, or used game passes. Times are already tight, and starting next year they're gonna get a lot tighter for a lot more people.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on March 01, 2013, 08:55:26 AM
Quote from: Eel O'Brian on March 01, 2013, 08:47:15 AM
I think more people are going to vote with their wallets this next generation, but it's going to be out of necessity rather than any real sense of outrage over DLC, microtransactions, or used game passes. Times are already tight, and starting next year they're gonna get a lot tighter for a lot more people.

The recession hasn't stopped people from buying (or charging to be more accurate) several hundreds of dollars each year for a new iPhone or iPad.

The biggest problem is conveying value in buying a PS4 or a Durango vs. getting the iPad 5 that will probably be launching here sometime in the next few months.  I think this is the real problem vs. how much money they have to spend.  Apple did great during some really tight times in spite of all of their shit being expensive as hell.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Eel O'Brian on March 01, 2013, 08:57:45 AM
the difference is that after the initial several hundred dollar investment for the tablet or phone, all the apps and games are either free or a buck
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: archnemesis on March 01, 2013, 09:03:43 AM
Near launch it's mostly dedicated enthusiasts who're going to get the new systems and they're not as price sensitive as parents and youths. If people are interested in the products they'll dig deep into their pockets for them. I think brand loyalty will be the biggest deciding factor together with the price, assuming that both consoles are approximately of the same power.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Great Rumbler on March 01, 2013, 09:39:57 AM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on March 01, 2013, 05:10:16 AM
Psychologically speaking, stuff like Real Racing 3 is about half a stone's throw away from gambling.

Real Racing 3 disgusts me in a way that I didn't think disposable entertainment could.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: mjemirzian on March 01, 2013, 09:44:28 AM
Haven't seen many Korean free to play MMOs have you?
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Joe Molotov on March 01, 2013, 09:46:12 AM
Quote from: Great Rumbler on March 01, 2013, 09:39:57 AM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on March 01, 2013, 05:10:16 AM
Psychologically speaking, stuff like Real Racing 3 is about half a stone's throw away from gambling.

Real Racing 3 disgusts me in a way that I didn't think disposable entertainment could.

(http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/2252875/2013-03-01_11.57.35.png)
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Great Rumbler on March 01, 2013, 09:59:07 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/BMEThvR.jpg)
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: mjemirzian on March 01, 2013, 10:04:14 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/YWiHU.jpg)
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Great Rumbler on March 01, 2013, 10:08:42 AM
Yeah, because that's TOTALLY comparable! You can't see it, but I'm rolling my eyes at you.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Flannel Boy on March 01, 2013, 01:11:44 PM
Quote from: Great Rumbler on March 01, 2013, 09:59:07 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/BMEThvR.jpg)

 :rofl
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on March 01, 2013, 01:16:33 PM
It is a beautiful game but those timers are insane.

Then again if you play casually I don't think its a huge deal. I did a few races in bed, upgrades where done while browsing bore, went to sleep.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Himu on March 01, 2013, 01:32:59 PM
Quote from: Joe Molotov on March 01, 2013, 09:46:12 AM
Quote from: Great Rumbler on March 01, 2013, 09:39:57 AM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on March 01, 2013, 05:10:16 AM
Psychologically speaking, stuff like Real Racing 3 is about half a stone's throw away from gambling.

Real Racing 3 disgusts me in a way that I didn't think disposable entertainment could.

(http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/2252875/2013-03-01_11.57.35.png)

:merchant
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on March 01, 2013, 01:41:21 PM
Yeah himuro.

You should download it just to experience where gaming is going.

You want to upgrade your engine? Please wait 5 min. I also have a feeling these timers will go up and up the further you get.

Have you ever played Eve Online? I tried it out and you get these kind of timers that can be days (yes DAYS) AND on top of that you have a monthly fee.

I feel like this kind of gameplay is really cynical and praying on the weak.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Stoney Mason on March 01, 2013, 01:45:33 PM
Yeah I disagree.


There is of course a money thing going on here but what you are really seeing is the divide between how people play games. Traditional gamers sit down for hours and play the same game for extended time. And there is a new generation that simply doesn't do that anymore. Gaming is something they do in burst or between things. So playing on their phone or ipad is something they bounce around with. And for them the ability to play it free is worth the bursting style gameplay that these timers introduce. I totally understand why traditional hardcore gamers don't like it. But its not going anywhere for certain section of the market especially ipad and iphone. The system is nothing new. Iphone and ipad games have been doing this for a long time now. What seems to have happened is here is a game with traditional hardcore appeal doing it.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: tiesto on March 01, 2013, 01:48:37 PM
Quote from: mjemirzian on March 01, 2013, 06:40:14 AM
Quote from: radioheadrule83 on March 01, 2013, 06:36:40 AM
a forum is a colossal waste of time for all involved.
Correct. :lol

Quote from: Rusty Shackleford on March 01, 2013, 05:54:17 AM
Just out of curiosity, care to show any examples in the CliffyB thread?  Looks like volpone got nailed in there for voicing an anti-GAF view but I could have missed something. (http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=48580998&postcount=746)
I dunno, haven't looked at the thread. I don't feel like wading through that shit.

Badly behaving, power tripping hypocrite mods seem to gather wherever RPGs are discussed, or they seem to be primarily fans of RPGs. Just an observation.

Maybe western RPGs (though that guy Minsc is cool and iirc he is named after a western RPG character), but for Japanese RPGs I haven't noticed. We have Aeana and that's about it... and she's no where near what you'd classify as a power tripping hypocrite.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on March 01, 2013, 01:50:08 PM
Quote from: Stoney Mason on March 01, 2013, 01:45:33 PM
Yeah I disagree.


There is of course a money thing going on here but what you are really seeing is the divide between how people play games. Traditional gamers sit down for hours and play the same game for extended time. And there is a new generation that simply doesn't do that anymore. Gaming is something they do in burst or between things. So playing on their phone or ipad is something they bounce around with. And for them the ability to play it free is worth the bursting style gameplay that these timers introduce. I totally understand why traditional hardcore gamers don't like it. But its not going anywhere for certain section of the market especially ipad and iphone. The system is nothing new. Iphone and ipad games have been doing this for a long time now. What seems to have happened is here is a game with traditional hardcore appeal doing it.

Stoney, as I said in a previous post, its ok to play this game casual.

But to play this game for reals hardcore its a shit game.

I would much rather have two versions, one 9.99 with everything fucking normal as a normal game. And one freemium.

Quote from: Premium Lager on March 01, 2013, 01:16:33 PM
It is a beautiful game but those timers are insane.

Then again if you play casually I don't think its a huge deal. I did a few races in bed, upgrades where done while browsing bore, went to sleep.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Himu on March 01, 2013, 01:53:22 PM
um. the rpg loving mod crowd are pretty much gone. those were mostly dragona and scarlet. you have kev, but he's not TOO much of an rpg guy unless you're talking about final fantasy. duck USED to be a big rpg guy but he's kinda down and out with games lately if my personal convos with him are any indication. kagari doesn't give a shit about rpgs, she only cares about final fagasy. this leaves minsc, who's all about quality wrpgs and strategy rpgs, and Aeana, who's about rpgs in general.

Neither minsc nor aeana are power tripping hypocrites.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Stoney Mason on March 01, 2013, 01:56:05 PM
Quote from: Premium Lager on March 01, 2013, 01:50:08 PM
I would much rather have two versions, one 9.99 with everything fucking normal as a normal game. And one freemium.

I would as well but then how you monetize the freeium version becomes more difficult. The economy of the ios market has never been very balanced or well thought out. It's a free for all which drives down the price for everything. So while as a gamer I agree. I also understand the especially difficult position all these guys are in. 
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Great Rumbler on March 01, 2013, 02:47:52 PM
I absolutely hate the idea of having to spend real money on every little thing in a game after I purchase it [or even get it for free]. I want to spend a one-time amount and then have access to everything the game has to offer.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Mr. Gundam on March 01, 2013, 02:48:34 PM
Quote from: Great Rumbler on March 01, 2013, 02:47:52 PM
I absolutely hate the idea of having to spend real money on every little thing in a game after I purchase it [or even get it for free]. I want to spend a one-time amount and then have access to everything the game has to offer.

Same here. This is also why I don't play MMOs.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: mjemirzian on March 01, 2013, 02:50:54 PM
Quote from: Great Rumbler on March 01, 2013, 10:08:42 AM
Yeah, because that's TOTALLY comparable! You can't see it, but I'm rolling my eyes at you.
Aw I just thought it was a funny pic. Chill out bro. :-[

I forgot the name of the mod I was thinking of on gaf. Wasn't any of those guys. I was actually thinking of another forum entirely.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Stoney Mason on March 01, 2013, 02:51:27 PM
Quote from: Great Rumbler on March 01, 2013, 02:47:52 PM
I absolutely hate the idea of having to spend real money on every little thing in a game after I purchase it [or even get it for free]. I want to spend a one-time amount and then have access to everything the game has to offer.

And I think plenty of hardcore gamers are like that if not all. The problem is that model works far less well on mobile platforms. But even something as popular as League of Legends doesn't offer everything for one cheap price even though it doesn't have an energy system like most mobile titles do.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on March 01, 2013, 03:45:28 PM
Quote from: mjemirzian on March 01, 2013, 02:50:54 PM
Quote from: Great Rumbler on March 01, 2013, 10:08:42 AM
Yeah, because that's TOTALLY comparable! You can't see it, but I'm rolling my eyes at you.
Aw I just thought it was a funny pic. Chill out bro. :-[

I forgot the name of the mod I was thinking of on gaf. Wasn't any of those guys. I was actually thinking of another forum entirely.

nothing VG Cats has ever done has ever been funny. EVER.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on March 01, 2013, 03:55:23 PM
Quote from: Stoney Mason on March 01, 2013, 02:51:27 PM
Quote from: Great Rumbler on March 01, 2013, 02:47:52 PM
I absolutely hate the idea of having to spend real money on every little thing in a game after I purchase it [or even get it for free]. I want to spend a one-time amount and then have access to everything the game has to offer.

And I think plenty of hardcore gamers are like that if not all. The problem is that model works far less well on mobile platforms. But even something as popular as League of Legends doesn't offer everything for one cheap price even though it doesn't have an energy system like most mobile titles do.

I think that is different because in things like Dota or Lol you have access to the full game, your are just paying for fluff.

I understand it's hard on mobile, but there are plenty of games that offer two versions.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Rahxephon91 on March 01, 2013, 05:11:22 PM
http://kotaku.com/5987864/nickels-dimes-and-quarters

Cliffy B getting real.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Stoney Mason on March 01, 2013, 05:14:18 PM
The reality is when I tell somebody I know who isn't a gamer that they should try out some mobile title if its costs anything there is no way they will actually download it. If its free they may download it. That is the reality you are working with on that platform.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Great Rumbler on March 01, 2013, 05:27:27 PM
Quote from: Stoney Mason on March 01, 2013, 05:14:18 PM
The reality is when I tell somebody I know who isn't a gamer that they should try out some mobile title if its costs anything there is no way they will actually download it. If its free they may download it. That is the reality you are working with on that platform.

Mobile is worse than 5 Hitlers.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Pringo on March 01, 2013, 05:31:49 PM
http://gamasutra.com/view/news/187605/A_theory_behind_Januarys_weak_Wii_U_sales.php#.UTErflerXYM (http://gamasutra.com/view/news/187605/A_theory_behind_Januarys_weak_Wii_U_sales.php#.UTErflerXYM)

Apparently the January US Wii U sales may not have been quite as bad as first thought.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: pilonv1 on March 01, 2013, 05:58:22 PM
Only a fool would believe that

And even if it was true, is 100,000 that much better?
Title: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Shaka Khan on March 01, 2013, 06:08:15 PM
Ho ho ho, that's the new "constrained shipments" excuse. I mean, sure, I'll believe second hand sellers returning their systems, but nearly 40k of them? That's a phenomenon.

 Unrelated: More people decided to return their Wii U's than Vita units old. :gloomy
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on March 01, 2013, 06:08:38 PM
what's the difference between a fool and a Nintendo fan?

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even a fool is smart enough not to buy the Wii U
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but yeah, that article is some straight up next-gen Wal-scusin'
Title: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Shaka Khan on March 01, 2013, 06:09:10 PM
It's probably happening it Japan too.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: AdmiralViscen on March 01, 2013, 06:09:27 PM
So it's a still-abysmal 100k sales with an even more abysmal 40% return rate?
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on March 01, 2013, 06:11:01 PM
what if Nintendo gave a lot of Wii U units away in contests and as gifts?

the numbers could be 20,000 higher than reported by NPD
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on March 01, 2013, 06:13:31 PM
what if NPD only counts each Wii U sale as 0.5 because of its last-gen processor?

NPD could be as high as 200k
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on March 01, 2013, 06:14:32 PM
what if NPD confused Wii U and Wii, like many consumers?

perhaps the "Wii" sales are really miscategorized "Wii U" sales
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: pilonv1 on March 01, 2013, 06:15:38 PM
:rofl
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on March 01, 2013, 06:16:47 PM
What if WiiUHut?
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on March 01, 2013, 07:00:40 PM
Reviving the Walscuse...that's one of many signs that you know a console is fucked.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Damian79 on March 01, 2013, 07:15:10 PM
Quote
“Activision didn’t expect much from Wii U sales of Black Ops 2, but they sure didn’t expect it to be that abysmal. Activision gave Wii U owners the best version of Blops 2 with Off TV features, and Nintendo fans didn’t support it. It’s easy for Nintendo fans to trash publishers for not giving them ports, but publishers have wisened up. They realize Nintendo fans are all talk. Nintendo fans are vocal with their mouths, but when it’s time to open their wallets, they’ll spend that $60 on New Super Mario Bros instead.”

http://calvinhalluncensored.wordpress.com/2013/02/23/activision-not-happy-with-blops-2-wii-u-software-sales/

How badly did blops bomb on the wiiu?
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Damian79 on March 01, 2013, 07:19:30 PM
Its 23000 and it went offline yesterday.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Great Rumbler on March 01, 2013, 07:30:58 PM
Quote from: Damian79 on March 01, 2013, 07:19:30 PM
Its 23000 and it went offline yesterday.

:rofl
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Shaka Khan on March 01, 2013, 08:09:20 PM
What do you mean "it went offline"? Did they switch off the servers?!
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Positive Touch on March 01, 2013, 08:34:32 PM
yep

HARDCORE GAMERZ
Title: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Huff on March 01, 2013, 10:35:38 PM
Quote from: Shaka Khan on March 01, 2013, 08:09:20 PM
What do you mean "it went offline"? Did they switch off the servers?!

This seems pretty bad. And pretty shitty for those who actually bought the game. Sucks to be them i guess
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Stoney Mason on March 01, 2013, 11:04:39 PM
They didn't take down the MP. There was some connectivity issues after an update but its supposedly been resolved.

http://www.joystiq.com/2013/02/27/black-ops-2-wii-u-online-play-down/
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Damian79 on March 01, 2013, 11:12:51 PM
Well atleast the devs who made it are doing right by the people who bought it then.  :/
Title: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Shaka Khan on March 02, 2013, 03:28:02 AM
Serves me right for taking Derpian's word.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: etiolate on March 02, 2013, 03:53:41 AM
Well if Skylanders under-performed then I imagine BLOPs would do a lot worse. Wii U doesn't have any audience established yet except diehard Nintendo fans and fools who buy every console. Nintendo fans don't want any bro games. They just want the bro games to sell so the third parties will give them titles that actually interest them.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Damian79 on March 02, 2013, 06:15:20 AM
Quote from: Shaka Khan on March 02, 2013, 03:28:02 AM
Serves me right for taking Derpian's word.

Was i wrong?  STFU.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on March 02, 2013, 07:08:03 AM
They took BLOPS offline for WiiU?

This is really the nail in the coffin.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: archnemesis on March 02, 2013, 07:20:44 AM
Old news. It's already up again.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: DCharlieJP on March 02, 2013, 09:46:58 AM
Quote
Right now a variety of companies are employing psychologists to create traps in their games.  They are deliberately taking advantage of the weaknesses of the human mind to exploit people for more money than they can reasonably afford in many cases.  Psychologically speaking, stuff like Real Racing 3 is about half a stone's throw away from gambling.  If the industry thinks they're going to be able to make an industry of any serious size based on this stuff, I hope they're ready for government regulation, cuz it's going to come swift and hard sooner or later.  Japan's already gotten a taste of the blood in the water on this one.  I imagine others aren't far behind. :)

Quite a few jobs out there right now along these lines - applied for one at a non-game retail site - got rejected because I missed that I needed a Doctorate in Statistical Maths. Oops
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: archie4208 on March 02, 2013, 12:45:58 PM
Oscar-sama do you know how badly the PC version of Sonic Racing Transformed flopped?  It's never in the top 100 Steam players list which usually tops off with a whopping 500 concurrent players.  :(
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Momo on March 02, 2013, 01:07:35 PM
damn I didnt think it would bomb, but a late PC port in a genre that PC gamers aren't really used to .. if I typed this sentence out before hand I would have known. Still glad it's on PC
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on March 02, 2013, 02:05:19 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on March 02, 2013, 10:47:48 AM
Quote from: archnemesis on March 02, 2013, 07:20:44 AM
Old news. It's already up again.

Lager's brain is generally five to ten steps behind his mouth.

You should see the places where that gets your :drool
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Damian79 on March 02, 2013, 10:16:08 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on March 02, 2013, 06:59:01 AM
Your numbers were.

They were Decembers launch numbers, would have been less in January.  Regardless I didnt say when they were anyway, no one asked about that.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Damian79 on March 03, 2013, 02:06:47 AM
I admit my post may have been a little misleading, but i will make sure to be a bit more verbose in future.  I just happen to be extremely lazy(one of the reasons i got banned at neogaf) which is like the bane of my existence.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Phoenix Dark on March 03, 2013, 03:23:00 AM
Quote from: Howard Alan Treesong on March 01, 2013, 06:14:32 PM
what if NPD confused Wii U and Wii, like many consumers?

perhaps the "Wii" sales are really miscategorized "Wii U" sales

Something tells me a GAFer will use this argument seriously in 3 months
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: pilonv1 on March 03, 2013, 06:12:15 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on March 02, 2013, 11:30:03 PM
No offense, but your whole post was at best misleading poop.  It would look better on you if you just admitted your error than these two "not my fault you didn't realize there was a bunch of critical info I left out for some reason which entirely changes what my post says" spin posts you've made.

Probably still closer than Chartzzz
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Sho Nuff on March 04, 2013, 03:55:04 AM
A random number generator is better than VGChartzzzz.

I used to have full access to NPD and for giggles I'd occasionally spot-check between them and Chartz. The Chartz numbers were so far off (high AND low) that nobody should ever take them seriously.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on March 04, 2013, 06:11:50 AM
http://www.chart-track.co.uk/index.jsp?c=p/software/uk/latest/index_test.jsp&ct=110032

Vita game in top 40,no WiiU
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on March 04, 2013, 07:21:19 AM
Another day,another sale
http://ca.reuters.com/article/technologyNews/idCABRE92304S20130304
Quote
"Japan’s Sony Corp. continues its financial restructuring plans and selling of unnecessary assets by announcing the sale of all of its shares, equal to a 13% stake, in the mobile game developer DeNA. Nomura Securities has already been named as the buyer, and will paying an estimated 40.9 billion yen (approx. $438 million).

As the 2012 fiscal year comes to a close at the end of this month, Sony will be recording the share sale as operating income in the fourth quarter, helping to boost the bottom line with the $438 million gain. A statement about the sale read “Sony is transforming its business portfolio and reorganizing its assets in an effort to strengthen its corporate structure. This sale is made as a part of that initiative.” The exact price of the 17,722,500 shares is to be revealed tomorrow, March 5th, while Sony expects the deal will be completed by March 7th."

Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on March 04, 2013, 09:02:31 AM
http://gematsu.com/2013/03/sony-japan-president-ps-vita-sales-have-increased-four-fold
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Sony Computer Entertainment Japan president Hiroshi Kawano has said during a One Piece: Pirate Warriors 2 presentation in Japan today that PlayStation Vita sales in the country have increased about four times the amount of units the platform was moving two weeks prior—before the system’s February 28 price drop.

Good or bad,you decide
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: archnemesis on March 04, 2013, 09:26:03 AM
It's good if they can sustain the higher sales going forward. Otherwise it's not going to make any difference.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on March 04, 2013, 10:25:44 AM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on March 04, 2013, 09:36:17 AM
Two weeks prior it sold about 10k.  So the price drop plus boob ninjas resulted in 40k for the week?  We'll have to see where it is in a few weeks.  Some pretty high profile software is rolling out alongside this price drop.

Some people on gaf claim he was misunderstood(mistranslated?),"he said 4 times the sales of the previous two weeks combined".Are they just making stuff up or not?

http://game.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/news/20130304_590334.html?ref=twitter
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Momo on March 04, 2013, 10:33:19 AM
Whats boob ninjas? doa? I havent been paying attention
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: MCD on March 04, 2013, 10:35:37 AM
Joe's favorite game.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Joe Molotov on March 04, 2013, 11:03:12 AM
Senran Kagura :bow2
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Great Rumbler on March 04, 2013, 12:14:19 PM
Quote from: MCD on March 04, 2013, 10:35:37 AM
Joe's favorite anime.

Fixed.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Joe Molotov on March 04, 2013, 12:27:43 PM
The one girl's pupils are pink four-leaf clovers, how moe is that?

(http://24.media.tumblr.com/3ef07d486ea9eedaaa9a6a2ec43a80a1/tumblr_mgml1hUHZc1qfi9cwo1_r2_500.gif)
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: bork on March 04, 2013, 12:46:16 PM
SENRAN KAGURA!!

 :nsfw :nsfw :nsfw :nsfw

Engaging story mode:
spoiler (click to show/hide)
(http://i.imgur.com/S4ZJlIB.gif)
(http://www.abload.de/img/5a8e411050d146f349dba64uip.gif)
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Stunning ninja action:
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(http://i.minus.com/iSMI3puioDboF.gif)
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Amazing game play that only the Vita can deliver:
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZzGnoloQL-s
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(http://www.abload.de/img/vita-senrankagura-4ibrpo.gif)

:bow TITS ARE LIFE, ASS IS HOMETOWN :bow2

:bow WRAP THE WORLD IN HAPPY BOOBS :bow2

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My copy is coming this week.   :-[
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Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Momo on March 04, 2013, 01:03:42 PM
I am disturbed yet intrigued at the same time
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: bork on March 04, 2013, 01:05:54 PM
Quote from: Momo on March 04, 2013, 01:03:42 PM
I am disturbed yet intrigued at the same time

(http://www.abload.de/img/vita-senrankagura-4ibrpo.gif)(http://www.abload.de/img/vita-senrankagura-4ibrpo.gif)(http://www.abload.de/img/vita-senrankagura-4ibrpo.gif)

People say it's actually a pretty good, ultra-perverted, musou game. 
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: mjemirzian on March 04, 2013, 02:55:55 PM
Vita finally has a killer app I guess. :-\
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: D3RANG3D on March 04, 2013, 06:10:28 PM
So ronery.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: mjemirzian on March 04, 2013, 07:31:33 PM
mistake post
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Himu on March 05, 2013, 01:57:29 AM
Quote from: bork laser on March 04, 2013, 01:05:54 PM
Quote from: Momo on March 04, 2013, 01:03:42 PM
I am disturbed yet intrigued at the same time

(http://www.abload.de/img/vita-senrankagura-4ibrpo.gif)(http://www.abload.de/img/vita-senrankagura-4ibrpo.gif)(http://www.abload.de/img/vita-senrankagura-4ibrpo.gif)

People say it's actually a pretty good, ultra-perverted, musou game.

Don't do this to me.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: archie4208 on March 05, 2013, 08:03:37 AM
Apparently Dead Space 4 was canned due to tepid DS3 sales.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on March 05, 2013, 08:05:57 AM
I guess that means I will be able to get Dead Space 3 for less than $10 for the Summer Steam sale :hyper
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: archie4208 on March 05, 2013, 08:14:29 AM
It isn't on Steam, and probably never will be unless EA gets a stick out of their ass.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on March 05, 2013, 08:32:18 AM
Quote from: archie4208 on March 05, 2013, 08:03:37 AM
Apparently Dead Space 4 was canned due to tepid DS3 sales.

Such a suprise people that liked the franchise due to it being "horror" don't like it anymore.

Reminds me of that other game EA fucked up. DA. Except that bioware said it was them and not EA calling the shots on that disaster.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Eel O'Brian on March 05, 2013, 08:59:08 AM
 
Quote from: The Experiment on March 05, 2013, 08:05:57 AM
I guess that means I will be able to get Dead Space 3 for less than $10 for the Summer Steam sale :hyper

Quote from: archie4208 on March 05, 2013, 08:14:29 AM
It isn't on Steam, and probably never will be unless EA gets a stick out of their ass.

But you will be able to get it for $10 on Origin, because even though EA thinks big discounts on games devalue the properties, they'd rather have your $10 than have nothing!

spoiler (click to show/hide)
Honestly, Origin isn't bad at all, good download speeds, quick updates, and if you contact them they'll sometimes add older games you've bought elsewhere (they added the Mass Effect 1 I bought from D2D to my Origin library for me). If I have to have some other DL service besides Steam, I can live with Origin.
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Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: archie4208 on March 05, 2013, 09:09:05 AM
Origin isn't bad, I just like to have most of my games in a central location.

And it's not like Origin would be removed in Steam versions of EA games.  EA can have the Origin client start when you boot the game via Steam, but they are just being bull headed about DLC revenue splits.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Eel O'Brian on March 05, 2013, 09:16:31 AM
I'm with you. I was gonna add all my non-Steam game shortcuts to my Steam library, but I'm too lazy to do even that little bit of work :lol
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: mjemirzian on March 05, 2013, 10:55:28 AM
Another franchise killed off after chasing Call of Duty bro bux? The list is getting awfully long now.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Himu on March 05, 2013, 11:11:36 AM
dead space 3 looked terrible anyways.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on March 05, 2013, 11:13:55 AM
(http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a140/likchan/C94C5D15-512A-479A-AC4E-DAF814598E6B-7663-000007E669809F04_zps68e290cc.jpg)
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Mr. Gundam on March 05, 2013, 11:39:29 AM
Dead Space 3 is different, but it's not bad.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: The Sceneman on March 05, 2013, 11:42:19 AM
Dead Space 1 was a balls to the walls stinker, cant see any kind of sequel improving the formula
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Steve Contra on March 05, 2013, 01:20:21 PM
Quote from: The Sceneman on March 05, 2013, 11:42:19 AM
Dead Space 1 was a balls to the walls stinker, cant see any kind of sequel improving the formula
Best 3 hour game that took 8 hours to beat ever.

So pretty shitty.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Himu on March 05, 2013, 01:21:23 PM
:lol
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Himu on March 05, 2013, 01:31:59 PM
Sounds like you're telling him to do something! Now I'm getting Dead Space flashbacks.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Stoney Mason on March 05, 2013, 01:42:33 PM
Oh the talk is in this thread. Dead Space 3 isn't bad from what I played so far. Reached the ice planet but lost my save so I'll have to come back to it later.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Sho Nuff on March 05, 2013, 04:05:21 PM
Did DS3 actually outsell 2, which I assume outsold 1?
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on March 05, 2013, 08:12:29 PM
You gotta spend money without knowing what you're doing to make money without knowing what you're doing!
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on March 06, 2013, 08:02:49 AM
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Vita   62,543
3DS LL   50,265
3DS   27,174
PS3   25,725
PSP   11,171
Wii U   10,021
Wii   1,383
Xbox 360   486
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: archnemesis on March 06, 2013, 08:08:40 AM
Nice! That 50% better than what I expected.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Great Rumbler on March 06, 2013, 09:41:49 AM
3DS family sold 77k, though.  :jawalrus
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: bork on March 06, 2013, 11:05:58 AM
Quote from: maxy on March 06, 2013, 08:02:49 AM
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Vita   62,543
3DS LL   50,265
3DS   27,174
PS3   25,725
PSP   11,171
Wii U   10,021
Wii   1,383
Xbox 360   486

Holy shit!  Is it just from the price drop or did Senran Kagura contribute to those numbers too? 
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on March 06, 2013, 11:13:28 AM
Wii U :lol

Vita :bow :bow
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: mjemirzian on March 06, 2013, 11:28:56 AM
Vita saved by happy boobs.

Would be nice if Soul Sacrifice gained some traction as well.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Brehvolution on March 06, 2013, 01:12:21 PM
Quote from: maxy on March 06, 2013, 08:02:49 AM
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Vita   62,543
3DS LL   50,265
3DS   27,174
PS3   25,725
PSP   11,171
Wii U   10,021
Wii   1,383
Xbox 360   486
(http://i41.tinypic.com/aewnwz.jpg)
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Steve Youngblood on March 06, 2013, 01:23:23 PM
Amazingly, that number is actually up from last week, Zero Hero.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Steve Contra on March 06, 2013, 01:44:34 PM
Momentum.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Phoenix Dark on March 06, 2013, 02:03:39 PM
WiiU is avoiding market saturation which is a good thing. 62k Vitas sold just means 62k fewer people purchasing a Vita next week
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Steve Contra on March 06, 2013, 02:07:58 PM
Quote from: Phoenix Dark on March 06, 2013, 02:03:39 PM
WiiU is avoiding market saturation which is a good thing. 62k Vitas sold just means 62k fewer people purchasing a Vita next week
i like this new "growth potential" excuse.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Don Flamenco on March 06, 2013, 02:37:18 PM
Japan's Most Desirable Handheld, ladies and gentlemen

just remember....VITA MEANS LIFE.   :usacry
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Brehvolution on March 06, 2013, 02:55:10 PM
Quote from: Steve Youngblood on March 06, 2013, 01:23:23 PM
Amazingly, that number is actually up from last week, Zero Hero.
:badass

spoiler (click to show/hide)
I don't really care about sales in Nippon.
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Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Mr. Gundam on March 06, 2013, 03:00:24 PM
Quote from: Phoenix Dark on March 06, 2013, 02:03:39 PM
WiiU is avoiding market saturation which is a good thing. 62k Vitas sold just means 62k fewer people purchasing a Vita next week

Did you post this at GAF? :rofl
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Steve Youngblood on March 06, 2013, 03:03:52 PM
Quote from: Zero Hero on March 06, 2013, 02:55:10 PM
Quote from: Steve Youngblood on March 06, 2013, 01:23:23 PM
Amazingly, that number is actually up from last week, Zero Hero.
:badass

spoiler (click to show/hide)
I don't really care about sales in Nippon.
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That wasn't meant as a correction and was more a "you think that's bad..." remark.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Purple Filth on March 06, 2013, 03:15:07 PM
Quote from: Don Flamenco on March 06, 2013, 02:37:18 PM
Japan's Most Desirable Handheld, ladies and gentlemen

just remember....VITA MEANS LIFE.   :usacry

 :tocry
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Brehvolution on March 06, 2013, 03:44:40 PM
Quote from: Steve Youngblood on March 06, 2013, 03:03:52 PM
Quote from: Zero Hero on March 06, 2013, 02:55:10 PM
Quote from: Steve Youngblood on March 06, 2013, 01:23:23 PM
Amazingly, that number is actually up from last week, Zero Hero.
:badass

spoiler (click to show/hide)
I don't really care about sales in Nippon.
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That wasn't meant as a correction and was more a "you think that's bad..." remark.
I hear ya.  :)
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Joe Molotov on March 06, 2013, 03:50:29 PM
Vita :piss WiiU
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Phoenix Dark on March 06, 2013, 04:32:49 PM
Quote from: Mr. Gundam on March 06, 2013, 03:00:24 PM
Quote from: Phoenix Dark on March 06, 2013, 02:03:39 PM
WiiU is avoiding market saturation which is a good thing. 62k Vitas sold just means 62k fewer people purchasing a Vita next week

Did you post this at GAF? :rofl

Waiting for the next NPD thread for extra effectiveness. Btw I heard a salesman use this argument earlier this year while pitching his company's product - and it's long term sales potential - to us at work.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Shaka Khan on March 06, 2013, 04:55:38 PM
I advise everyone to let it all out, shoot their load, and savor it. Because I highly doubt things will continue this way for long. Even with SS, PSO2, and Tales coming up, as each of them will contribute a bump, but won't have the legs to sustain those sales, let alone raise them.

I really hope I'm wrong, but deep down everyone knows it's the reality.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Joe Molotov on March 06, 2013, 05:31:54 PM
Quote from: Shaka Khan on March 06, 2013, 04:55:38 PM
I advise everyone to let it all out, shoot their load, and savor it. Because I highly doubt things will continue this way for long. Even with SS, PSO2, and Tales coming up, as each of them will contribute a bump, but won't have the legs to sustain those sales, let alone raise them.

I really hope I'm wrong, but deep down everyone knows it's the reality.

This is me right now, Jin:

(http://www.abload.de/img/vita-senrankagura-4ibrpo.gif)
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: mjemirzian on March 06, 2013, 05:40:03 PM
I don't mind being a Vitard if it means supporting non-99 cent portable gaming. I'll go down with that ship if I have to. Of course I also have a 3DS as a lifeboat.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Flannel Boy on March 06, 2013, 11:12:55 PM
Quote from: Joe Molotov on March 06, 2013, 05:31:54 PM
Quote from: Shaka Khan on March 06, 2013, 04:55:38 PM
I advise everyone to let it all out, shoot their load, and savor it. Because I highly doubt things will continue this way for long. Even with SS, PSO2, and Tales coming up, as each of them will contribute a bump, but won't have the legs to sustain those sales, let alone raise them.

I really hope I'm wrong, but deep down everyone knows it's the reality.

This is me right now, Jin:

(http://www.abload.de/img/vita-senrankagura-4ibrpo.gif)

 :what
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on March 08, 2013, 09:53:42 AM
Looks like SS first day sell-through is 70%,gaf is already in masturbation mode.
Little update
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First day sellthrough

Hatsune Miku: Project Diva F < 60%
Soul Sacrifice [Limited Edition] - 70%
Tales of Hearts R - 50-60%
Far Cry 3 -70-80%
Ultra Man - zz
Doraemon - zzzz

No shipment numbers,so meh


Some Tomb Raider "numbers"
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Karl Stewart ‏@CrystalDKarl
Wow, 1m gamers playing in less than 48hrs! @tombraider fans, you're AMAZING Hearing some stores are running low..more copies are on the way!
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Shaka Khan on March 08, 2013, 11:33:32 PM
Who's masturbating, Vitards or trolls? Without shipment numbers I'm not sure how to interpret them.

(Although on the one hand it's a new IP so that sell-through is decent, on the other a *lot* is riding on this title)
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on March 08, 2013, 11:57:31 PM
Vitards tried but no shipment number was a major downer.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: mjemirzian on March 09, 2013, 12:27:32 AM
Is the game any good? I suppose that's secondary to sales numbers. :-\

This ultraman tactics game is kinda ass. Framerate drops horribly with 4-5 units on the map.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on March 09, 2013, 12:33:14 PM
Oscar, how many mills did Max Payne 3 sell? 4?

Sequel likely?
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Don Flamenco on March 09, 2013, 03:29:48 PM
Quote from: Shaka Khan on March 08, 2013, 11:33:32 PM
Who's masturbating, Vitards or trolls? Without shipment numbers I'm not sure how to interpret them.

(Although on the one hand it's a new IP so that sell-through is decent, on the other a *lot* is riding on this title)


As i said this thread is for this week Vita sales with the price-cut.If it is a sales thread like Mediacreate it should have more data like LTD or the same number this time last year.This is what a sales thread is about.This thread is a report for this week numbers.We will not using this thread for Vita sales like 7 weeks after.

When i said ''this is not a sales thread''i was talking metaphorically.I hope you know that means.If you didnt understand in the first place its not my problem.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on March 09, 2013, 03:41:21 PM
 :piss gaf
Title: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Shaka Khan on March 09, 2013, 05:49:00 PM
Quote from: Don Flamenco on March 09, 2013, 03:29:48 PM
Quote from: Shaka Khan on March 08, 2013, 11:33:32 PM
Who's masturbating, Vitards or trolls? Without shipment numbers I'm not sure how to interpret them.

(Although on the one hand it's a new IP so that sell-through is decent, on the other a *lot* is riding on this title)


As i said this thread is for this week Vita sales with the price-cut.If it is a sales thread like Mediacreate it should have more data like LTD or the same number this time last year.This is what a sales thread is about.This thread is a report for this week numbers.We will not using this thread for Vita sales like 7 weeks after.

When i said ''this is not a sales thread''i was talking metaphorically.I hope you know that means.If you didnt understand in the first place its not my problem.

Where's this from? lol
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Purple Filth on March 09, 2013, 08:49:18 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on March 09, 2013, 05:42:37 PM
Quote from: Premium Lager on March 09, 2013, 12:33:14 PM
Oscar, how many mills did Max Payne 3 sell? 4?

Sequel likely?

NPD tracks at a combined total of under 900k to date for 360/PS3.  I'd say a Max sequel is less likely than several possible Rockstar IPs after the somewhat tepid response to 3 from all corners.

Ouch.

And people thought it would be gold because of Rockstar handling it.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Trent Dole on March 09, 2013, 10:30:31 PM
The more Rockstar IPs unworthy of further sequels the closer we are to Bully II kinda sorta maybe? Fuckin' make Bully II already, assholes. :gun
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: tiesto on March 10, 2013, 12:44:00 AM
I remember Max Payne 3 ads being EVERYWHERE. Like when I went to San Francisco the whole city was coated with them. Even my mom made a comment about the ads, asking me if I knew the game.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: HyperZoneWasAwesome on March 10, 2013, 01:25:32 AM
Rockstar always drops a major dime on their properties.  Hell, fated to underperform L.A. Noire had a similarly huge ad push and likewise six year-ish development cycle.  Of course Rockstar seldom puts out more then one game a year anymore, so I guess they are kinda stuck putting so many eggs in one basket
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on March 10, 2013, 04:41:09 AM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on March 09, 2013, 05:42:37 PM
Quote from: Premium Lager on March 09, 2013, 12:33:14 PM
Oscar, how many mills did Max Payne 3 sell? 4?

Sequel likely?

NPD tracks at a combined total of under 900k to date for 360/PS3.  I'd say a Max sequel is less likely than several possible Rockstar IPs after the somewhat tepid response to 3 from all corners.

Isn't that number from last summer?

900k US, prob around the same in EU I guess. Add some PC games. 3 million doesn't seem to much then.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on March 10, 2013, 07:04:03 AM
Horrible :(
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: archie4208 on March 10, 2013, 08:51:33 AM
MP3 keys are out of stock on Steam, so it probably sold a few thousand copies this weekend. 
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: chronovore on March 10, 2013, 09:42:48 AM
Quote from: archie4208 on March 10, 2013, 08:51:33 AM
MP3 keys are out of stock on Steam, so it probably sold a few thousand copies this weekend. 
Max Payne 3 was also part of The Mother of All Xbox Sales, with a US$14.99 sales price. I imagine a number of people picked it up at that price, though I think it is over 7GB, so that might have hampered sales in the 20GB and 60GB tier crowd. Bang, bang, though: I got mine.

Quote from: Steve Contra on March 06, 2013, 01:44:34 PM
Momentum.
(http://i.imgur.com/UHoWJFQ.jpg)


Quote from: Trent Dole on March 09, 2013, 10:30:31 PM
The more Rockstar IPs unworthy of further sequels the closer we are to Bully II kinda sorta maybe? Fuckin' make Bully II already, assholes. :gun
:dap
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on March 10, 2013, 10:27:56 AM
Quote
Max Payne 3 was also part of The Mother of All Xbox Sales, with a US$14.99 sales price. I imagine a number of people picked it up at that price, though I think it is over 7GB, so that might have hampered sales in the 20GB and 60GB tier crowd. Bang, bang, though: I got mine.

I got for like $10 from UK marketplace.In some EU countries it went as low as 150 points.

Game is 7.7GB but after certain chapter you need to download like 4GB.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Don Flamenco on March 10, 2013, 10:49:51 AM
there are some design choices in Max Payne 3 that need to be punished and squashed out immediately.   

We're already seeing "huge narrative-related phrases on walls" in other games (DMC) and that's probably the gaudiest, head-hammering shit ever. 
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on March 10, 2013, 11:04:14 AM
It really doesnt bother me, chapter 13/14 now :)
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on March 10, 2013, 02:31:32 PM
Michael Pachter next gen predictions

(http://i.imgur.com/1TUeJgy.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/F25tZ93.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/xWu1XiG.jpg)

I guess xbawks is doomed now.Not sure why he puts  Gaikai as Sony advantage,MS will have its own cloud shit.

PC gaming returns :bow2
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: archnemesis on March 10, 2013, 02:47:30 PM
You believe Microsoft will offer a cloud-streamed game service?
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on March 10, 2013, 02:55:52 PM
Yes of course.

It was even in that leaked document.

Two months old quote
Quote
The future of the Xbox brand is "cloud centric" rather than "device centric", according to Phil Harrison, corporate vice president of Microsoft's Interactive Entertainment Business.

"Increasingly, the games are going to sit on the cloud," Harrison said. "Instead of being device centric, they will be cloud centric.

"This vision is what influenced me to join Microsoft in the first place," he added.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: archnemesis on March 10, 2013, 03:50:52 PM
I'm guessing that is more in line with always online DRM and server side processing rather than streaming the full game. Like SimCity 5.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on March 10, 2013, 04:00:03 PM
Kind of a shame about Xbox going cloud centric because nobody gives a fuck about Microsoft devices outside of the Xbox.

http://blogs.seattletimes.com/microsoftpri0/2013/02/06/comscore-despite-windows-phone-8-microsofts-u-s-smartphone-share-continues-decline/
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on March 10, 2013, 04:08:42 PM
Make Xbox phone,might be interested then.

Quote from: archnemesis on March 10, 2013, 03:50:52 PM
I'm guessing that is more in line with always online DRM and server side processing rather than streaming the full game. Like SimCity 5.

This is from the leaked document.I think it pretty clearly describes things.

(http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/17pzjeft5bh0bpng/original.png)
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: archnemesis on March 10, 2013, 04:17:06 PM
Yep, that's probably exactly what they did with Skulls of the Shogun. You have your save game in the cloud and you can use it from any Windows 8 platform. The game is running on the device and not from the cloud. At this point I'm almost certain that the Nextbox will be called Xbox 8 and have cross-platform apps with Windows Phone 8, Windows (Desktop) 8 and their Surface tablets.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on March 10, 2013, 04:28:56 PM
Windows phone is a dead platform so far, not much leverage from that.

MS should make XBL apps for android and ios.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on March 10, 2013, 04:31:03 PM
Um,I will eat my hat if MS doesn't have game streaming service up and ready in next year or two.Console wars are all about checking boxes,no way that MS lets cloud streaming box unchecked.Rango is even rumored to be some kind of streaming box that will feed every screen you have.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: archnemesis on March 10, 2013, 04:34:23 PM
It depends on their objective. If they want to push Windows 8 then it might be good to have a unified cross-platform solution. Getting 30% from all app purchases is probably more worth than selling a few thousand copies extra of XBL apps.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: archnemesis on March 10, 2013, 04:36:53 PM
Quote from: maxy on March 10, 2013, 04:31:03 PM
Um,I will eat my hat if MS doesn't have game streaming service up and ready in next year or two.Console wars are all about checking boxes,no way that MS lets cloud streaming box unchecked.Rango is even rumored to be some kind of streaming box that will feed every screen you have.
Developing a streaming platform takes time. They have all the components at their disposal, but putting everything together isn't easy. If they wanted feature parity then they should have bought OnLive when Sony bought Gaikai.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on March 10, 2013, 04:45:24 PM
I think they hired some OnLive people.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on March 10, 2013, 04:51:21 PM
Totally the same as taking the company over.
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Post by: maxy on March 10, 2013, 05:41:31 PM
Not sure what are we arguing here about.MS not having some cloud streaming shit in the pocket sounds like science fiction to me but whatever we'll see what Rango brings.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on March 10, 2013, 05:48:57 PM
Microsoft will definitely have some cloud streaming service.  Having it on things that people actually want to buy is the biggest problem for Microsoft at the moment.  Moving from devices to cloud will almost definitely kill the Xbox brand if their current marketshare is any indicator.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: chronovore on March 11, 2013, 04:19:43 AM
Quote from: Don Flamenco on March 10, 2013, 10:49:51 AM
there are some design choices in Max Payne 3 that need to be punished and squashed out immediately.   

We're already seeing "huge narrative-related phrases on walls" in other games (DMC) and that's probably the gaudiest, head-hammering shit ever.

Didn't that start in Splinter Cell?
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on March 11, 2013, 07:14:04 AM
I have no problem with those things,replayed the game twice already but,

Max Payne 3 has the same problem like Halo 4,devs kinda went overboard with encounter rate.Max Payne 3 has all those clues but they serve no purpose because game just throws tons of enemies at you.Room after room,area after area---you have just one goal,obliterate everything.There is no like uh tons of guys in this room maybe I should try some alternate approach.I doesn't help that enemies have psychic powers and spot you instantly after you pop from cover.

My favorite part is when you get a silencer but you apparently can't make silent killing.There are two instances in the game like that so if somebody managed not to alert others,please let me know.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on March 11, 2013, 07:35:49 AM
Time for UK sales data

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Square Enix and Crystal Dynamics’ reboot of ‘Tomb Raider’ (360/PS3/PC) sees the title debuting at No1 as the biggest launch of the year so far, comfortably outselling previous best this year ‘Aliens: Colonial Marines’ by more than double the week 1 sell-through (in week 7, 2013).

‘Tomb Raider’ week 1 All Format sales set a new record for the franchise, with the previous best actually set by Crystal Dynamics’ first game in this series, ‘Tomb Raider: Legend’ from 2006 with around half the sales shown here. This is the 10th Tomb Raider game in the series (original Tomb Raider launched in 1996, week 43 on Sega’s Saturn, week 47 on Sony’s PS1) and is the first version to launch as an ‘Event’ title (Tuesday 5th March, 2013).
Both the 360 and PS3 versions of ‘Tomb Raider’ set new week 1 records as the fastest selling individual formats of any Tomb Raider release so far, a record previously held by ‘Tomb Raider: Angel of Darkness’ on PS2 way back in week 27, 2003. Debuting strongly at No2 is EA’s ‘SimCity’ for PC, the sixth game in the series which dates back to 1989 and which was last seen as a new release back in week 46, 2007 with the fifth instalment, ‘Sim City Societies’. Namco Bandai debut at No3 with 360/PS3 ‘Naruto Shippuden: Ultimate Ninja Storm 3’ and EA bring up the last of the new entries at No4 with ‘The Sims 3: University Life’, the ninth expansion pack for ‘The Sims 3’. EA’s ‘FIFA 13’ drops 3 places to No5 (-32%) and last week’s No1, EA’s ‘Crysis 3’ is forced down to No6 (-55%).

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Post by: Cerveza mas fina on March 11, 2013, 08:08:11 AM
Watch Square piss the money away on making a new Final Shitfest for 6 years.
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Post by: Cerveza mas fina on March 11, 2013, 08:32:53 AM
Does that really cover 6 years of development time and disasters like FFXIV?
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on March 11, 2013, 08:53:36 AM
FF is not going anywhere anytime soon--it sells,JRPGs are pretty rare these days in the West and FF has a name that people recognize
I bet that pretty much everyone on Bore will play FF15 or whatever Versus will be renamed to.

Anyway UK charts are up

Individual chart
http://www.chart-track.co.uk/index.jsp?c=p/software/uk/latest/index_test.jsp&ct=110032

Guardian top 20 split
http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/gamesblog/2013/mar/11/top-20-video-games

Interesting thing

Tomb Raider
Xbox 360 (50)
PS3 (42)
PC (3)

PC version is at number 5(individual format),games bellow must be selling like shit.   
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on March 11, 2013, 08:56:12 AM
Daaayyuuum. Funny to see Uncharted Tomb Raider doing better then Tomb Raider Uncharted
Title: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Huff on March 11, 2013, 10:07:35 AM
That pc percentage only covers boxed retail sales right?
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on March 11, 2013, 10:12:42 AM
Quote from: Huff on March 11, 2013, 10:07:35 AM
That pc percentage only covers boxed retail sales right?
Yes.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: archie4208 on March 11, 2013, 10:30:25 AM
TR broke about 29k peak concurrent on Steam, so it probably did fairly well on PC.  Most new single player focused games usually do about 5-10k CCU.

The main outlier is Skyrim which had about 280k concurrent at launch.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Kim Kardashians Butt on March 11, 2013, 10:39:48 AM
One clarification needs to be made and that is the distinction that all Rockstar Games current Gen efforts - GTAIV base game and RDR notwithstanding - have underperformed and undelivered. Even the GTAIV dlc episodes were received in a tepid and lukewarm manner. Rockstar is more than willing to take on risks but this makes them somewhat vulnerable because of the high marketing and production values of their software roll out. Rockstar really could use a hit that is not tied to the GTA or Red Dead name.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: demi on March 11, 2013, 10:40:08 AM
Cute!
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on March 11, 2013, 10:41:07 AM
Ban plz demi
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on March 11, 2013, 10:45:19 AM
Who is Kim Kardashians Butt?
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Eel O'Brian on March 11, 2013, 10:45:23 AM
i don't get it
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on March 11, 2013, 10:46:59 AM
Himuro?
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Post by: Eel O'Brian on March 11, 2013, 10:49:58 AM
oh well, doesn't matter, i don't keep up with this kind of stuff anyway
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Post by: demi on March 11, 2013, 10:50:18 AM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on March 11, 2013, 10:46:36 AM
It's really obvious who it is, I just don't know if we're supposed to acknowledge it or not

I respect users' privacy.

Doesnt mean you have to. ;)
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on March 11, 2013, 11:06:16 AM
Must be Andrex then.
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Post by: EmCeeGrammar on March 11, 2013, 06:25:46 PM
Himuro post pics after you do the hormone thing for a few months two years. 
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on March 11, 2013, 06:35:35 PM
even i know who it is u heathens
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on March 12, 2013, 06:35:13 AM
I saw this few days ago but was to lazy to pull out some quotes.Someobody from gaf did,so

http://www.gametrailers.com/videos/bh15kg/pach-attack------the-hardware-business-makes-no-sense-for-nintendo--

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Do you ever see Nintendo having to leave the hardware business like Sega?

Having to? "No never"
Wanting to? "not while their biggest share holder is Yamauchi and not while Iwata is CEO. They are deeply rooted in tradition in what made Nintendo great and the formula for Nintendo success has been manufacture a console and sell it at a profit."

"I think that model is broken for Nintendo and I think they are no longer able to compete the way they did in the past and sell their consoles at a large profit. 3DS is barely making a profit and WiiU is barely making a profit. Maybe $5-$10. Nintendo's hardware profits are so low it really doesn't make sense for them."

"....I think Mr. Iwata is a pretty poor CEO and has done a poor job of running the company."

"...I think if Nintendo went the Sega route they would be immensely more profitable, but it's not in their DNA."

"...I think that if Yamauchi and Iwata are no longer there, then maybe [they leave the console business]."

I'm 50:50 on this.

I understand were Pachter is coming from--if Nintendo future is thin hardware profit margins and irrelevancy to third party developers then going third party makes sense.On the other had Nintendo would lose control over their marketplace.Going third party would have its benefits though,I bet MS would lick Nintendo boots just to get something like Mario Kart.

I agree with the last quote,no chance as long as Yamauchi is there.

There is one other solution,few people mentioned it here/around the internet.Make just one device,some kind of cheap handheld that can connect seamlessly to TV.I think Nintendo is big enough to fully support one device.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on March 12, 2013, 07:00:04 AM
I could definitely see Wii U being their last console.  Nintendo clearly doesn't feel like competing against Sony and Microsoft yet probably can't think of a good enough gimmick to try to overcome the power gap.  Instead I could see that the 4DS can plug into the TV instead.  Then Nintendo can treat that as both the next handheld and next console for them.  However, I don't see any real benefit for Nintendo to make Durango and PS4 games.

Porting some of their NES games to iOS and Android would probably be a pretty good source of revenue for them as well.  I'm sure Super Mario Bros. would sell millions of copies if not tens of millions.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on March 12, 2013, 07:22:03 AM
Competing with the likes of Sony is the road to doom,imo.It would just blow up Nintendo game budgets like crazy,pushing software profit margins into oblivion.Some cheap handheld/console hybrid device could keep budgets under control.
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Post by: pilonv1 on March 12, 2013, 07:33:03 AM
Quote from: MyNameIsMethodis on March 11, 2013, 06:35:35 PM
even i know who it is u heathens

So it's Wilco?
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Post by: Cerveza mas fina on March 12, 2013, 07:33:51 AM
WHO IS IT PM PLZ
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Post by: Cerveza mas fina on March 12, 2013, 07:34:09 AM
WHO IS IT?  :mouf
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Fifstar on March 12, 2013, 07:47:41 AM
The problem with the Handheld/Console Hybrid imo is that Nintendo couldn't do as many versions of their franchises as they can now. Something like Mario Kart or the New Mario Bros game come out once per generation each for the console and the handheld. They would loose their long term sales if they would just do 2 iterations per Hybrid cycle and probably wear those franchises even thinner then they do now. Of course they could instead use their teams to develop just one Mario Kart per generation and let them do another game instead of the second but how likely is it that those would sell anywhere near the numbers of the heavy hitters?

Of course, the market for a purely Nintendo console might disappear in the future, but for now I feel Nintendo can make enough money by selling their big franchises a second time on a console, even if the console might only sell 20 - 30 million units. It all comes down to how much R&D Nintendo has to spent on the development of the console and what amount of the console they can sell without a loss.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on March 12, 2013, 07:49:39 AM
Leave the butt alone.

Sales data,UK 2012
http://www.mcvuk.com/news/read/call-of-duty-beats-batman-as-the-uk-s-no-1-entertainment-blockbuster/0112263
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1. Call of Duty: Black Ops II, Activision Blizzard –––– 2,672,364
2. FIFA 13, Electronic Arts –––– 2,601,877
3. The Dark Knight Rises, Warner Home Video –––– 1,694,434
4. The Twilight Saga – Breaking Dawn – Part 1, Entertainment One –––– 1,515,604
5. Our Version of Events (Emeli Sande), Universal Music –––– 1,446,844
6. Now That's What I Call Music 83 (Various Artists), EMI Music/Universal Music –––– 1,389,006
7. Avengers Assemble, Walt Disney Studios ––– 1,349,937
8. TED, Universal Pictures –––– 1,188,295
9. War Horse, Walt Disney Studios –––– 986,870
10. The Hunger Games, Elevation Sales –––– 946,592
11. Mrs Brown's Boys – Series One, Universal Pictures ––– 913,145
12. The Best Exotic Marigold Hotel, 20th Century Fox ––– 888,629
13. Assassin's Creed III, Ubisoft ––– 886,198
14. Now That's What I Call Music 82 (Various Artists), EMI Music/Universal Music ––– 866,031
15. Prometheus, 20th Century Fox ––– 853,079
16. Ice Age 4 – Continental Drift, 20th Century Fox ––– 819,009
17. 21 (Adele), XL Beggars ––– 816,317
18. Sherlock Holmes – A Game of Shadows, Warner Home Video ––– 816,126
19. + (Ed Sheeran), Warner Music ––– 811,038
20. Now That's What I Call Music 81 (Various Artists), EMI Music/Universal Music ––– 756,035
21. Halo 4, Microsoft ––– 753,489
22. Born To Die (Lana del Rey), Universal Music ––– 743,210
23. Brave, Walt Disney Studios ––– 743,021
24. Bridesmaids, Universal Pictures ––– 710,185
25. Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy, Elevation Sales ––– 707,875
26. Johnny English Reborn, Universal Pictures –––– 694,651
27. Mrs Brown's Boys – Series Two, Universal Pictures –––– 670,956
28. The Amazing Spider-Man, Sony Pictures –––– 656,620
29. The Woman In Black, Momentum Pictures –––– 654,589
30. Take Me Home One Direction, Sony Music ––– 643,433
31. Right Place Right Time, Olly Murs ––– Sony Music 597,370
32. The Adventures of TinTin – The Secrets Of, Paramount –––– 597,282
33. Babel Mumford & Sons, Universal Music –––– 592,173
34. Mrs Brown's Live Tour – Good Mourning, Universal Pictures ––– 585,925
35. Michael McIntyre Showtime, Universal Pictures –––– 579,011
36. Hitman Absolution, Square Enix –––– 571,248
37. Just Dance 4, Ubisoft –––– 562,453
38. Despicable Me, Universal Pictures –––– 549,111
39. Mission Impossible – Ghost Protocol, Paramount –––– 545,502
40. Far Cry 3, Ubisoft -––– 540,237


For comparison
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2010
Call of Duty: Black Ops [Activision Blizzard] – 3,266,298
FIFA 11 [Electronic Arts] – 2,390,231
Just Dance [Ubisoft] – 1,305,338
Red Dead Redemption [Take-Two] – 1,135,559
Wii Fit Plus [Nintendo] – 920,811
Just Dance 2 [Ubisoft ] – 903,866
Assassin’s Creed: Brotherhood [Ubisoft] – 880,755
Wii Sports Resort [Nintendo] – 818,554
Halo: Reach [Microsoft] – 781,331

2011
Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3 [Activision Blizzard] - 2,814,609
FIFA 12 [Electronic Arts] - 2,193,302
Battlefield 3 [Electronic Arts] - 1,186,895
Zumba Fitness [Majesco Entertainment] - 1,077,508
The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim [Bethesda Softworks] - 1,024,228
Just Dance 3 [Ubisoft] - 820,333
Assassin’s Creed: Revelations [Ubisoft] - 732,566

2012
Call of Duty: Black Ops II [Activision Blizzard] – 2,672,364
FIFA 13 [Electronic Arts] – 2,601,877
Assassin's Creed III [Ubisoft] – 886,198
Halo 4 [Microsoft] – 753,489
Hitman Absolution [Square Enix] – 571,248
Just Dance 4 [Ubisoft] – 562,453
Far Cry 3 [Ubisoft] – 540,237
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Post by: archie4208 on March 12, 2013, 08:04:05 AM
Just Dance is going down the same path as every other popular rhythm game.  RIP in peace.  :'(

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Post by: maxy on March 12, 2013, 08:07:08 AM
Quite a drop for Black Ops.
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Post by: Cerveza mas fina on March 12, 2013, 08:38:49 AM
If anyone could do it, it's Nintendo.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on March 12, 2013, 08:47:49 AM
The rationale for people stating Nintendo 'should' go third party always stinks of people who would suddenly like their games again in a hypothetical scenario.  Nintendo would benefit from behaving like they acknowledge their competitors and doing some semi-aggressive counter programming in software and hardware (inhouse and moneyhats) first and foremost.  There was really no equivalent in the West quite like getting Monster Hunter and Dragon Quest on their platforms in Japan.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on March 12, 2013, 08:54:09 AM
Quote from: EmCeeGrammar on March 12, 2013, 08:47:49 AM
The rationale for people stating Nintendo 'should' go third party always stinks of people who would suddenly like their games again in a hypothetical scenario.  Nintendo would benefit from behaving like they acknowledge their competitors and doing some semi-aggressive counter programming in software and hardware (inhouse and moneyhats) first and foremost.  There was really no equivalent in the West quite like getting Monster Hunter and Dragon Quest on their platforms in Japan.

I still wouldn't play them. But mom and dad would still pickup Mario if it was on Playstation.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on March 12, 2013, 09:32:28 AM
Quote from: Fifstar on March 12, 2013, 07:47:41 AM
The problem with the Handheld/Console Hybrid imo is that Nintendo couldn't do as many versions of their franchises as they can now. Something like Mario Kart or the New Mario Bros game come out once per generation each for the console and the handheld. They would loose their long term sales if they would just do 2 iterations per Hybrid cycle and probably wear those franchises even thinner then they do now. Of course they could instead use their teams to develop just one Mario Kart per generation and let them do another game instead of the second but how likely is it that those would sell anywhere near the numbers of the heavy hitters?

Of course, the market for a purely Nintendo console might disappear in the future, but for now I feel Nintendo can make enough money by selling their big franchises a second time on a console, even if the console might only sell 20 - 30 million units. It all comes down to how much R&D Nintendo has to spent on the development of the console and what amount of the console they can sell without a loss.

Yeah,they would certainly lose that ability but on the other hand if they are too stretched between two devices...
WiiU is certainly suffering because first party software is not ready and third party is either not there or not selling.

One thing is for sure,Nintendo is not forced to do anything radical like Sega was.They have plenty of money in the bank and I'm sure WiiU will give them nice profit.But there is a big difference between 30 million and 100 million consoles sold.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: hampster on March 12, 2013, 09:38:48 AM
I don't get why Pachter is so high on Sony and Microsoft. He has them selling more units this generation than last gen in that SXSW presentation. That seems pretty optimistic to me.

If Nintendo changed leadership/shareholders and went 3rd party they would rake in the money for a year or two but would be in sega's shoes in no time. They don't have the creativity to keep up in this hit driven business and their current setup lets them cultivate the franchises they do have. I just don't buy Nintendo as a 3rd party could keep pokemon/mario going for decades like they do now
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Post by: archnemesis on March 12, 2013, 09:42:46 AM
Quote from: hampster on March 12, 2013, 09:38:48 AM
I don't get why Pachter is so high on Sony and Microsoft. He has them selling more units this generation than last gen in that SXSW presentation. That seems pretty optimistic to me.
I share his prediction. The total market is still growing and if people aren't buying dedicated handhelds or the Wii U then there is plenty of room for the other two home consoles. People aren't going to play Madden or Call of Duty on their tablets.
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Post by: archnemesis on March 12, 2013, 10:15:00 AM
You don't think the next generation is going to last as long as this one? The new systems might sell at a slower pace, but I wouldn't be surprised if the LTD ends up higher than the current gen.
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Post by: EmCeeGrammar on March 12, 2013, 10:32:46 AM
Its important in these assessments to put your own projections and bias aside and look at things from a pragmatic point of view.  Especially when you're arguing with Oscar, who spergs on raw data and knows whats up.

If I can accept Nintendo is royally fucked atm I'm sure others around here can make some concessions within their world-wishing.
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Post by: maxy on March 12, 2013, 10:33:36 AM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on March 12, 2013, 10:02:56 AM
Haha, the market for consoles is absolutely not growing.  Yes, this generation sold more consoles than the last, but divide the total by years and it looks a lot less pretty.  That's not even talking about software.

Can you say anything about US software PS2 vs 360,PS3,Wii ?
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: archnemesis on March 12, 2013, 10:37:56 AM
You make a mistake in thinking that next-gen consoles is my platform of choice.

If this truly is the last console generation (I don't believe that either) then it's going to run longer than the previous generations. With the market focusing on tablets, smart TVs and smartphones you're not going to see the same rapid evolution of processing power and computationally intensive games. The 720/PS4 could very well last for a decade and that will give them enough time to outsell the current iterations of hardware.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: archnemesis on March 12, 2013, 10:56:39 AM
Going for long generations is probably necessary when you're selling heavily subsidized hardware. Neither Sony or Microsoft are going to push for the 9th generation unless they absolutely have to. I'm anticipating Apple TV, Google, Samsung, Ouya and a few other companies to try to get in on the console market this and next year which will hopefully halt the graphics arms race.

Where are EA, Activision, and Ubisoft going to go if the home console market fails? Nintendo aren't going to provide powerful enough hardware, and the PC market is more crowded and ripe with piracy. If the PS4 launches at a more acceptable price than last time then I believe it's going to do quite well. Same with Xbox 8.
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Post by: maxy on March 12, 2013, 11:05:22 AM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on March 12, 2013, 10:46:40 AM
Quote from: maxy on March 12, 2013, 10:33:36 AM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on March 12, 2013, 10:02:56 AM
Haha, the market for consoles is absolutely not growing.  Yes, this generation sold more consoles than the last, but divide the total by years and it looks a lot less pretty.  That's not even talking about software.

Can you say anything about US software PS2 vs 360,PS3,Wii ?

Nintendo's stuff was crazy balls this gen but I think we can all agree that train has sailed.  CoD did somewhat better than GTA, most everything else did worse than equally-ranked PS2 games. The US market is up a bit, but not enough to make up for the vanished JP console market and the shrunken Euro market.

Thx.

Not sure how Europe will do next gen(probably contract even more) but Japan moving away from consoles will certainly not help consoles in the West.
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Post by: tiesto on March 12, 2013, 01:45:31 PM
Quote from: The Experiment on March 12, 2013, 07:00:04 AM
I could definitely see Wii U being their last console.  Nintendo clearly doesn't feel like competing against Sony and Microsoft yet probably can't think of a good enough gimmick to try to overcome the power gap.  Instead I could see that the 4DS can plug into the TV instead.  Then Nintendo can treat that as both the next handheld and next console for them.  However, I don't see any real benefit for Nintendo to make Durango and PS4 games.

Porting some of their NES games to iOS and Android would probably be a pretty good source of revenue for them as well.  I'm sure Super Mario Bros. would sell millions of copies if not tens of millions.

What I want out of Nintendo is a powerful (~WiiU level) handheld that comes in 2 sizes - either a tablet (WiiU controller) or handheld (DS) size... all the hardware is localized to the handheld, but you can also buy for ~$50 a "base" that plugs into the TV via HDMI that you can stream the handheld to. Basically, the reverse of the WiiU concept. (and this way, you don't have to worry about a wired connection to the TV via one long HDMI cable the way you do with the later PSP revisions).
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Human Snorenado on March 12, 2013, 01:56:59 PM
Quote from: archnemesis on March 12, 2013, 10:15:00 AM
You don't think the next generation is going to last as long as this one? The new systems might sell at a slower pace, but I wouldn't be surprised if the LTD ends up higher than the current gen.

It's going to go on indefinitely, because it's going to be the last generation.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Positive Touch on March 12, 2013, 08:06:32 PM
Quote from: tiesto on March 12, 2013, 01:45:31 PM

What I want out of Nintendo is a powerful (~WiiU level) handheld that comes in 2 sizes - either a tablet (WiiU controller) or handheld (DS) size... all the hardware is localized to the handheld, but you can also buy for ~$50 a "base" that plugs into the TV via HDMI that you can stream the handheld to. Basically, the reverse of the WiiU concept. (and this way, you don't have to worry about a wired connection to the TV via one long HDMI cable the way you do with the later PSP revisions).

in other words, an ipad for kids. which is what nintendo SHOULD have done this gen.


Quote from: Creepy Old Guy on March 12, 2013, 01:56:59 PM
It's going to go on indefinitely, because it's going to be the last generation.

lol at all u dramafreaks acting like no one will be ready to swoop in with a new console/business model to replace whatever we have if it fails. consumers want videogames, but the businesses are selling it to them in all the wrong ways right now.
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Post by: Positive Touch on March 12, 2013, 09:44:07 PM
i think theres at least some sort of balance between a games budget and its pricing that can be found that will work better than what we have nowadays. spending tens of millions of dollars and 2-3 years dev time on a crapshoot isnt sustainable, and neither is churning out ios titles and f2p games. making products that wont make you kroke are something something i cant concentrate on finishing this thought
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on March 12, 2013, 10:22:17 PM
Nobody knows what the hell will be going on 5-10 years from now.  Going to a cloud based service might end up hastening the decline.  Like I said, I'm pretty sure it will wipe out the Xbox brand but at that point, maybe Microsoft isn't going to give a shit.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Fifstar on March 13, 2013, 03:44:19 AM
Yeah the market and the technical circumstances have changed so much over the last years that extrapolating from the past seems pretty useless. Casuals and more importantly people that are somewhere between casual and core gamer moving to cheap games on mobile devices is probably the trend that spells the most doom and gloom for the coming generation.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: archnemesis on March 13, 2013, 04:02:45 AM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on March 12, 2013, 08:32:54 PM
Consumers do want video games.  Luckily, video games are provided on their browsers, phones, and tablets at a fraction of the cost of console games.
Tablet gaming is adequate for a lot of people, but it's still far from providing the same experiences that enthusiasts get from their consoles. When was the last time you heard of someone ditching Call of Duty for Modern Combat just because it was cheaper? If you for instance look at the the Top 40 Entertainment UK list that was released yesterday you'll see that most of the popular games on it would be very difficult to adapt to phones/tablets. Advanced browser games could easily work from a technical perspective, but projects like Quake Live never really caught on in popularity.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Fifstar on March 13, 2013, 04:20:01 AM
Yeah many games are difficult to adapt but a lot of the semi casual gamers that buy one or two games will make decision if they want a console that plays advanced games or a tablet that might not be perfect for games but provides a lot of other additional entertainment. Not everybody that might theoretically be interested in a proper game once in a while will make the investment towards it, because even more other forms of entertainment than before battle for his attention.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: archnemesis on March 13, 2013, 04:51:04 AM
That might be the part where I don't agree with most analysts. I think smartphones and tablets are going to replace desktops, laptops, and portable consoles. Home consoles will survive since there is 1) a demand for games that not be found on other platforms and 2) a lot of companies have a large stake in the market. It's not only Microsoft and Sony that have an interest in their platforms. Publishers and developers also need home consoles in the future if they want to continue with their current line of work.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: archnemesis on March 13, 2013, 05:07:04 AM
Your calculation is assuming that there is a perfect overlap between the popular console franchises. The Call of Duty audience is largely separate from the FIFA audience and the Gran Turismo audience. If you add these together you'll have enough customers to continue to sustain a home console market. I don't doubt that a lot of developers will continue to disappear when there isn't enough money for ten different Call of Duty clones, but the popular franchises will live on for another generation without much trouble.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: benjipwns on March 13, 2013, 05:15:39 AM
That's sustainable to justify the existence of the consoles, but it's not inherently enough to provide a mass base of users to justify every title and genre on those platforms.

Even though they're still on consoles, look at the shift to handhelds as primary platform for lots of the "Japanophile" set over the last generation. And then there's the genres fleeing back to the PC or heading to phones after taking another shot at consoles this gen. If some of them sustain on consoles it'll be XBLA/PSN type stuff.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: archnemesis on March 13, 2013, 05:25:37 AM
Let's switch focus for a bit. What's your take on the smartphone/tablet market? Are you expecting the F2P with IAP bubble to burst? Will offering $0.99 games prevent people from wanting to spend more money on more expensive games? Even though the most popular titles rake in an ungodly amount of money, I get the impression that it's much more difficult to predict what games will become popular. Will large companies like Zynga, PopCap, and Rovio, be forced to buy up indie successes when their internal products fail to meet the same success as their predecessors?
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: benjipwns on March 13, 2013, 05:35:41 AM
I think they're already sorta doing that.

The thing about the smartphone/tablet market is just that it finally provides yet another outlet for games. And it has the advantage of selling to a device people already own in most cases.

Maybe I'm in the minority but I don't see any of this everything smartphone/everything motion control/one-console future lots of people like to envision but more of a market no longer constrained to a couple platforms by near fiat. Hardcore gamers hate it because they want everything but many people seem fine with the games available on their platform as long as there are enough. And most of the hardcore buy everything anyway.

I can easily envision someone having a Call of Duty/Madden box but spending more time and dollars over the same period on some other platform like a smartphone. Maybe because I know these people already.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on March 13, 2013, 09:09:06 AM
MC sales

Quote
Vita   63,581
3DS LL   39,801
3DS   21,207
PS3   19,567
PSP   18,023
Wii U   9,454
Wii   1,363
Xbox 360   738

SS: regular = 92k; double pack = 22k.

Quote
01./00. [PS3] Hatsune Miku: Project Diva f <ACT> (Sega) {2013.03.07} (¥7.329) - 110.229 / NEW
02./00. [PSV] Soul Sacrifice # <ACT> (Sony Computer Entertainment) {2013.03.07} (¥5.980) - 92.396 / NEW
03./00. [PSP] Uta no Prince-Sama: All Star # <ACT> (Broccoli) {2013.03.07} (¥6.090) - 67.217 / NEW
04./05. [3DS] Animal Crossing: New Leaf # <ETC> (Nintendo) {2012.11.08} (¥4.800) - 63.285 / 2.802.940 (-14%)
05./00. [PSV] Tales of Hearts R # <RPG> (Bandai Namco Games) {2013.03.07} (¥6.480) - 55.258 / NEW
06./01. [PS3] Dynasty Warriors 8 # <ACT> (Koei Tecmo) {2013.02.28} (¥7.560) - 46.866 / 250.090 (-77%)
07./00. [PS3] Far Cry 3 <ACT> (Ubisoft) {2013.03.07} (¥7.770) - 33.281 / NEW
08./02. [3DS] Professor Layton and the Legacy of Civilization A <ADV> (Level 5) {2013.02.28} (¥5.500) - 30.078 / 160.764 (-77%)
09./10. [3DS] Dragon Quest VII: Fighters of Eden <RPG> (Square Enix) {2013.02.07} (¥6.090) - 24.045 / 1.159.265 (-49%)
10./00. [PSV] Soul Sacrifice: "United Front" Double Pack <ACT> (Sony Computer Entertainment) {2013.03.07} (¥7.980) - 22.050 / NEW
11./04. [3DS] Dragon Ball Heroes: Ultimate Mission <TBL> (Bandai Namco Games) {2013.02.28} (¥5.800) - 21.915 / 110.302 (-75%)
12./08. [PS3] Metal Gear Rising: Revengeance # <ACT> (Konami) {2013.02.21} (¥6.980) - 17.833 / 386.908 (-70%)
13./03. [PSV] Senran Kagura Shinovi Versus: Otome Shoujotachi no Shoumei # <ACT> (Marvelous AQL) {2013.02.28} (¥6.980) - 17.138 / 111.461 (-82%)
14./00. [3DS] Doraemon: Nobita to Himitsu Dougu Hakubutsukan <ETC> (FuRyu) {2013.03.07} (¥5.229) - 12.768 / NEW
15./07. [PSV] Phantasy Star Online 2: Special Package <RPG> (Sega) {2013.02.28} (¥5.229) - 10.031 / 71.258 (-84%)
16./00. [PS3] Crysis 3 <ACT> (Electronic Arts) {2013.03.07} (¥7.665) - 9.602 / NEW
17./06. [PS3] Macross 30: Ginga o Tsunagu Utagoe # <RPG> (Bandai Namco Games) {2013.02.28} (¥8.380) - 9.294 / 72.383 (-85%)
18./09. [PSP] Shining Ark <RPG> (Sega) {2013.02.28} (¥6.279) - 9.161 / 63.999 (-83%)
19./13. [3DS] New Super Mario Bros. 2 # <ACT> (Nintendo) {2012.07.28} (¥4.800) - 8.452 / 1.950.816 (-17%)
20./14. [3DS] Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate (Best Price!) <ACT> (Capcom) {2012.11.15} (¥3.800) - 8.096 / 252.737 (-12%)
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Momo on March 13, 2013, 09:21:41 AM
Wii U   9,454 :deadmanny
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Joe Molotov on March 13, 2013, 09:41:58 AM
Come on NA release of Project Diva!  :lawd
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Diunx on March 13, 2013, 10:11:43 AM
How is metal gear rising doing?
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on March 13, 2013, 10:12:37 AM
I hope the Vita reigns surpreme forever now. The nin tears will be great.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: mjemirzian on March 13, 2013, 10:29:21 AM
I knew Vita still had some fight left in it (in Japan at least).

But yeah there's no denying that the market for dedicated gaming machines is shrinking. I see the future of handheld gaming turning to android smartphones w/ controller attachments. Aren't Sony's smartphones being trounced by Samsung and Apple?
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: tiesto on March 13, 2013, 10:49:52 AM
Quote from: Joe Molotov on March 13, 2013, 09:41:58 AM
Come on NA release of Project Diva!  :lawd

Hell yeah, really hope I can get some HD Luka rhythm-game action! :uguu
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Mr. Gundam on March 13, 2013, 11:44:42 AM
Quote from: Diunx on March 13, 2013, 10:11:43 AM
How is metal gear rising doing?

12./08. [PS3] Metal Gear Rising: Revengeance # <ACT> (Konami) {2013.02.21} (¥6.980) - 17.833 / 386.908 (-70%)
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Don Flamenco on March 13, 2013, 11:55:00 AM
Playstation Family on top again 

5 Vita games in the top 20 

it's only 2 weeks in a row, but this is how the comeback starts :smug

Why do you guys think Andrex left a while ago?  It's like how animals can pick up on natural disasters way before humans and bail out.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: hampster on March 13, 2013, 12:03:29 PM
Quote from: Don Flamenco on March 13, 2013, 11:55:00 AM
Why do you guys think Andrex left a while ago?  It's like how animals can pick up on natural disasters way before humans and bail out.

:bow Vita's comeback :bow2

(http://dohl.brontoforum.us/FF9/011/011-111.jpg)

:bow Kuja :bow2

spoiler (click to show/hide)
Not saying he's a rat, just joking around :P I played through this part the other day
[close]
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Mr. Gundam on March 13, 2013, 12:31:19 PM
I like the idea of games (One Piece KM2, Gundam Breaker, etc.) getting PS3/Vita simultaneous releases, but that's because I have zero interest in getting a Vita. Probably doesn't help the Vita.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Don Flamenco on March 13, 2013, 12:51:04 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on March 13, 2013, 12:24:59 PM
Not bad, but that's pretty much it for notable software for the foreseeable future.

Andrex left because Lager is so dumb it's physically painful.  He might have returned already but I tried to talk him out of it.


yep, board drama is pretty ghey...

but hopefully devs see this little blip as a call for some games on the damn thing. 
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Purple Filth on March 13, 2013, 02:56:12 PM
Enjoy dat second week Vita fans  :lol
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on March 13, 2013, 03:24:38 PM
(http://playxbla.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/Minecraft_FOB_v1.4-735x1024.jpg)

April 30th, $19.99


interesting
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Trent Dole on March 13, 2013, 05:23:22 PM
Quote from: tiesto on March 13, 2013, 10:49:52 AM
Quote from: Joe Molotov on March 13, 2013, 09:41:58 AM
Come on NA release of Project Diva!  :lawd

Hell yeah, really hope I can get some HD Luka rhythm-game action! :uguu
http://www.siliconera.com/2013/03/13/yes-that-hatsune-miku-project-diva-f-facebook-banner-actually-matters/
SoA PR says they're 'gauging interest' but since SoJ have supposedly lamented how much the game has cost them and it's supposedly not made enough for them to continue the series prior to the PS3 release I kind of doubt that they'd not do it and try to pull some funds in off of international interest. If they don't bring it out over here I will :maf at them lots. :maf :maf :maf
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Purple Filth on March 13, 2013, 07:25:26 PM
Taken from the Wii U deadpool thread

Quote from: Shaka Khan on March 13, 2013, 06:47:34 PM
Quote from: CNET
In a research note to investors today, Wedbush analyst Michael Pachter said that he believes Nintendo sold just 80,000 Wii U units in February -- the same number of original Wii units that sold. What's worse, the Wii U's sales were about half of the 165,000 PlayStation 3 units sold last month and far behind the Xbox 360's 225,000 unit sales, according to Pachter.


IIRC Pachter's guess numbers are usually higher than the real number NPD gives so this is gonna be interesting.



Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Beezy on March 13, 2013, 07:37:11 PM
Quote from: maxy on March 13, 2013, 03:24:38 PM
http://playxbla.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/Minecraft_FOB_v1.4-735x1024.jpg (http://playxbla.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/Minecraft_FOB_v1.4-735x1024.jpg)

April 30th, $19.99


interesting
Smart. I should get this for my nephew. He loves Minecraft on PC and recently got a 4GB 360.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: AdmiralViscen on March 13, 2013, 08:42:48 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on March 13, 2013, 12:24:59 PM
Not bad, but that's pretty much it for notable software for the foreseeable future.

Andrex left because Lager is so dumb it's physically painful.  He might have returned already but I tried to talk him out of it.

He left because of Lager??? :lol
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: mjemirzian on March 13, 2013, 08:51:08 PM
I think people would be more understanding if he declared he was no longer a fanboy and wasn't going to speak on things he doesn't understand or use "actual" in every other sentence. Seems like he might have been trying to change for the better but people kept hounding his posts.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Human Snorenado on March 13, 2013, 08:51:33 PM
I'm still here.  I just put him on ignore.  Better for everyone that way; I have a hard time not yelling at stupid people.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: AdmiralViscen on March 13, 2013, 09:35:25 PM
I just mean that Lager is easy to ignore
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Human Snorenado on March 13, 2013, 09:36:03 PM
*shrugs*

I have a hard time feeling bad for someone who asked not to be treated like a stereotype but acted like a stereotype.  Granted yeah he's not as bad as your average gaffer, but still...
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Steve Contra on March 13, 2013, 09:42:59 PM
Quote from: Creepy Old Guy on March 13, 2013, 09:36:03 PM
*shrugs*

I have a hard time feeling bad for someone who asked not to be treated like a stereotype but acted like a stereotype.  Granted yeah he's not as bad as your average gaffer, but still...
Remember when Crushed was an awful stereotype and then turned awesome when it wasn't working for him?  I miss Crushed  :'(
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Human Snorenado on March 13, 2013, 09:46:50 PM
Quote from: Steve Contra on March 13, 2013, 09:42:59 PM
Quote from: Creepy Old Guy on March 13, 2013, 09:36:03 PM
*shrugs*

I have a hard time feeling bad for someone who asked not to be treated like a stereotype but acted like a stereotype.  Granted yeah he's not as bad as your average gaffer, but still...
Remember when Crushed was an awful stereotype and then turned awesome when it wasn't working for him?  I miss Crushed  :'(

Same.  Crushed seemed to really get the bore, shame he's gone.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on March 13, 2013, 10:01:26 PM
:bow Crushed :bow2

:piss Special Snowflakes :piss2

Andrex lurks here all the time too.  I hope if he does return, he doesn't do the whole "I was busy and that was the real reason why I left!" bit.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Phoenix Dark on March 13, 2013, 10:09:02 PM
Quote from: Creepy Old Guy on March 13, 2013, 09:46:50 PM
Quote from: Steve Contra on March 13, 2013, 09:42:59 PM
Quote from: Creepy Old Guy on March 13, 2013, 09:36:03 PM
*shrugs*

I have a hard time feeling bad for someone who asked not to be treated like a stereotype but acted like a stereotype.  Granted yeah he's not as bad as your average gaffer, but still...
Remember when Crushed was an awful stereotype and then turned awesome when it wasn't working for him?  I miss Crushed  :'(

Same.  Crushed seemed to really get the bore, shame he's gone.
:orly
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Shaka Khan on March 13, 2013, 10:20:45 PM
It feels like we've had this conversation many times by now. How about ya'll bitches just get over it. Everyone is welcome to post, take a break, come back, or never show up again. As long as they keep it to themselves. I ain't shedding more tears for nobody.

(http://i.imgur.com/UDlpGSU.gif)
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Shaka Khan on March 13, 2013, 11:33:00 PM
*Awkward silence*
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Shaka Khan on March 13, 2013, 11:34:00 PM
You know I love you all. Now let's go back to talking numbers.  :hump
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Great Rumbler on March 13, 2013, 11:36:33 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/DTGRiXO.gif)
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Trent Dole on March 13, 2013, 11:37:47 PM
It'll be nice when there's more games worth talking about than numbers (and how they keep getting smaller.) Roll on next-gen, which I won't join for a year or three, haha.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Shaka Khan on March 13, 2013, 11:47:55 PM
In the context of Vita's userbase and current sale, what would be a pretty respectable LTD number for SS, a resultant of showing *some* legs?

I mean with 104k as a start, even if it surprises everyone with softer drops, it can't go that far... let alone inspire confidence in any skeptic pub/dev.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Huff on March 13, 2013, 11:48:13 PM
think his name on the game got them any sales or recognition?
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Shaka Khan on March 13, 2013, 11:50:34 PM
Quote from: Huff on March 13, 2013, 11:48:13 PM
think his name on the game got them any sales or recognition?

I don't think so, but that won't stop him for swooping in to take some unearned credit.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Huff on March 13, 2013, 11:51:43 PM
Quote from: Shaka Khan on March 13, 2013, 11:50:34 PM
Quote from: Huff on March 13, 2013, 11:48:13 PM
think his name on the game got them any sales or recognition?

I don't think so, but that won't stop him for swooping in to take some unearned credit.

I don't blame him, I try to take unearned credit all the time about anything
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Momo on March 14, 2013, 01:42:13 AM
Who's in the top 5 bad posters anyway? Lager has never bothered me, then again not even Methodis has. I see past his shenanigans  as shenanigans and just reply with humour.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Momo on March 14, 2013, 01:55:48 AM
Eh, I guess any list would be pretty subjective anyway. So about that Patcher WiiU NPD number, has the actual NPD come out yet?
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on March 14, 2013, 02:04:10 AM
in about 12 17 hours for ordinary peasants

little earlier for subscribers

Edit:small mistake corrected  :-[
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Shaka Khan on March 14, 2013, 02:09:18 AM
Quote from: Momo on March 14, 2013, 01:42:13 AM
Who's in the top 5 bad posters anyway? Lager has never bothered me, then again not even Methodis has. I see past his shenanigans  as shenanigans and just reply with humour.

We've got so few active posters that the lists overlap-- third best poster is probably fifth worst. :lol
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on March 14, 2013, 02:36:19 AM
Remember that 3D glasses free lawsuit against Nintendo?

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/03/13/us-nintendo-patent-infringement-idUSBRE92C1DA20130313

Quote
(Reuters) - A federal jury in New York on Wednesday found that video game company Nintendo Co infringed an inventor's 3-D display technology patent with its handheld 3DS videogame system.

The jury awarded the inventor, Seijiro Tomita, $30.2 million in compensatory damages.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on March 14, 2013, 03:12:03 AM
Some interesting numbers

http://www.shacknews.com/article/78207/xbox-360-primarily-used-for-gaming-ps3-used-mostly-for

(http://nielsen.com/content/corporate/us/en/newswire/2013/play-vs--stream--the-modern-gaming-console/_jcr_content/mainpar/image.img.png/1363196913742.png)

But I thought 360 owners just stare at ads.Wii is a streaming box naturally.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: archnemesis on March 14, 2013, 03:36:13 AM
The figure would be far more interesting if it showed hours instead of a percentage. We know that the PS3 is the most popular system for Netflix, but I haven't seen any stats showing how much people use their systems for gaming.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on March 14, 2013, 05:15:27 AM
Sure,but multiple years give you the most important thing---trends.

(http://www.nielsen.com/content/dam/corporate/us/en/newswire/uploads/2011/12/video-game-console-usage.png)
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on March 14, 2013, 05:17:50 AM
Weird that MS is the one banking on services when both PS3/Wii are the streamboxes.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: archnemesis on March 14, 2013, 05:51:22 AM
Quote from: maxy on March 14, 2013, 05:15:27 AM
Sure,but multiple years give you the most important thing---trends.
Without the total hours you still don't know why the trends changed. For instance, a rise in video-on-demand percentage could be because the customers really like the quality of the service. But the trend could also have changed because people just got tired of playing video games on their consoles.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on March 14, 2013, 05:54:32 AM
Quote from: Creepy Old Guy on March 13, 2013, 08:51:33 PM
I'm still here.  I just put him on ignore.  Better for everyone that way; I have a hard time not yelling at stupid people.

Lol 600 hours of diablo who's stupid here.

Hint: you.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on March 14, 2013, 09:57:11 AM
Quote from: archnemesis on March 14, 2013, 05:51:22 AM
Quote from: maxy on March 14, 2013, 05:15:27 AM
Sure,but multiple years give you the most important thing---trends.
Without the total hours you still don't know why the trends changed. For instance, a rise in video-on-demand percentage could be because the customers really like the quality of the service. But the trend could also have changed because people just got tired of playing video games on their consoles.

Well,here are some 360 hours

Quote
Microsoft has announced that Xbox 360 users amassed a total of 18 billion hours on their systems over 2012, an increase of 10 percent over 2011.

The company’s data shows that an average user spent over 87 hours a month on their Xbox 360, another 10 percent increase over 2011.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: archnemesis on March 14, 2013, 10:13:03 AM
Cool. An average of 87 hours/month is a lot higher than what I expected.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on March 14, 2013, 12:34:13 PM
I put 100+ hours on my Wii U monthly.  Of course all of that is either Netflix or Amazon Video but still.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: archnemesis on March 14, 2013, 12:48:24 PM
I'm usually spread thin across multiple platforms unless I get really hooked on something.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on March 14, 2013, 02:12:14 PM
Sales of consoles are down 31% in the Netherlands. From 800k in 2011 to 500k in 2012.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Steve Contra on March 14, 2013, 02:45:42 PM
Quote from: Premium Lager on March 14, 2013, 05:17:50 AM
Weird that MS is the one banking on services when both PS3/Wii are the streamboxes.
That's share of time spent.  It doesn't really say much about usage at all.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on March 14, 2013, 03:50:51 PM
Quote from: Premium Lager on March 14, 2013, 02:12:14 PM
Sales of consoles are down 31% in the Netherlands. From 800k in 2011 to 500k in 2012.

Looks like console industry is doing fine everywhere.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Steve Contra on March 14, 2013, 06:33:16 PM
Looks like Metal Gear bomba.  Now for the sales :trash
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Purple Filth on March 14, 2013, 07:22:59 PM
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1. Dead Space 3 (360, PS3, PC) Electronic Arts
2. Call of Duty: Black Ops II (360, PS3, Wii U PC) Activision Blizzard
3. Crysis 3 (360, PS3, PC) Electronic Arts
4. NBA 2K13 (360, PS3, Wii, Wii U, PSP, PC) Take-Two Interactive
5. Metal Gear Rising: Revengeance (PS3, 360) Konami
6. Aliens: Colonial Marines 2013 (360, PS3, PC) Sega
7. Just Dance 4 (Wii, 360, PS3, Wii U) Ubisoft
8. Far Cry 3 (360, PS3, PC) Ubisoft
9. Sly Cooper: Thieves in Time (PS3, PSV) Sony
10. Madden NFL 13 (360, PS3, Wii, PSV, Wii U) Electronic Arts

Holy shit at Sly Cooper sneaking in  :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Purple Filth on March 14, 2013, 07:53:25 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on March 14, 2013, 07:37:24 PM
Whooole lotta bomba this month, haha. Even in the top ten.

Makes sense to be honest given some of these names on the list
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Purple Filth on March 14, 2013, 07:57:03 PM
Can you say how MGR did and how it fared vs DmC?
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Huff on March 14, 2013, 08:04:31 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on March 14, 2013, 07:55:56 PM
In fact I'm pretty comfortable calling the bottom half of the new releases bombas, and even the top half is worth considering.

Burn, industry, burn

hows sly doing compared to the previous games?
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on March 14, 2013, 08:07:03 PM
Looks like I picked the right week to stop making games!

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_bpdWsOrotV0/TTncIdHZnqI/AAAAAAAAECI/w23EbQAHfto/s1600/lloyd%2Bbridges%2Bairplane%2B1.jpg)
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on March 14, 2013, 08:28:06 PM
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In a separate statement, Nintendo reported that 455,000 units of hardware were sold in the U.S. in February, pushing 3DS past 8 million units to date.


 :zzz
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: AdmiralViscen on March 14, 2013, 08:34:55 PM
Quote from: maxy on March 14, 2013, 08:28:06 PM
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In a separate statement, Nintendo reported that 455,000 units of hardware were sold in the U.S. in February, pushing 3DS past 8 million units to date.


 :zzz

What was 3ds ltd before this month?
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Shaka Khan on March 14, 2013, 08:41:38 PM
FE performing well :bow

But how "well" are we talking here? Put it in terms of previous Intel Sys releases (namely FE and AW), if it's not too much to ask.

Edit: 250k (retail + digital) :rock Though I still wonder how it stacks up against the previous games.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Purple Filth on March 14, 2013, 08:52:07 PM
What about my question  :'(

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Can you say how MGR did and how it fared vs DmC?
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Steve Contra on March 14, 2013, 08:53:51 PM
I'm going to say "better" than DmC, but still not very good.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on March 14, 2013, 08:54:38 PM
Quote from: AdmiralViscen on March 14, 2013, 08:34:55 PM
Quote from: maxy on March 14, 2013, 08:28:06 PM
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In a separate statement, Nintendo reported that 455,000 units of hardware were sold in the U.S. in February, pushing 3DS past 8 million units to date.


 :zzz

What was 3ds ltd before this month?
Dunno,close to 8 million obviously.

cream has arrived

Vita ~ 38k, COD bundle ~ 44%
FE bundle ~ 19% retail
EO4 < 15k
NGS2P ~ 3k
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Purple Filth on March 14, 2013, 09:02:54 PM
from creamsugar

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Wii U ~ 66k
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Purple Filth on March 14, 2013, 09:23:23 PM
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MGRR: PS3~65%, total > 1/3 DS3

Ouch  :'(
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on March 14, 2013, 09:24:47 PM
Wii U top 15 (standalone sku)

Mario
Sonic
SU
Zombi
cod
jd4
batman
skylanders
mickey
wipeout
ac3
espn
avengers
sing party
rabbids

Sony Ecosystem < Xbox 360

MGRR: PS3~65%, total > 1/3 DS3
 :lawd

The future is here
(http://i.imgur.com/CcwgfUp.jpg)
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Samsung doesn't have a formal name for it just yet, but this concept device is expected to launch sometime this summer. It's basically a first-party Bluetooth controller with a full complement of face buttons, dual analog sticks, a D-pad and even shoulder buttons on the back. It's powered by dual AAA batteries and connects wirelessly, the phone held in place by an expanding clamp up top that looks plenty big enough to support a Note II (we tried, it fit fine) and maybe even something like the Note 8.0!
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Huff on March 14, 2013, 09:27:35 PM
Quote from: Purple Filth on March 14, 2013, 09:23:23 PM
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MGRR: PS3~65%, total > 1/3 DS3

Ouch  :'(

not even Metal Gear can break platinums curse
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Purple Filth on March 14, 2013, 09:32:29 PM
Quote from: Huff on March 14, 2013, 09:27:35 PM
Quote from: Purple Filth on March 14, 2013, 09:23:23 PM
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MGRR: PS3~65%, total > 1/3 DS3

Ouch  :'(

not even Metal Gear can break platinums curse

tbf it seems to have done better in Japan and EU for them and also we don't know DS3 numbers

but yea it doesn't sound like they broke it by much.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Huff on March 14, 2013, 09:36:41 PM
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Ni no kuni ~ 50k this month, and better than DMC (360+PS3).

lul DmC
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Eel O'Brian on March 14, 2013, 09:37:10 PM
Quote from: maxy on March 14, 2013, 09:24:47 PM
The future is here
(http://i.imgur.com/CcwgfUp.jpg)
Quote
Samsung doesn't have a formal name for it just yet, but this concept device is expected to launch sometime this summer. It's basically a first-party Bluetooth controller with a full complement of face buttons, dual analog sticks, a D-pad and even shoulder buttons on the back. It's powered by dual AAA batteries and connects wirelessly, the phone held in place by an expanding clamp up top that looks plenty big enough to support a Note II (we tried, it fit fine) and maybe even something like the Note 8.0!

that's a start, but i don't think this kind of stuff will really take off until google releases some sort of official nexus controller/attachment thing, or at least bakes native support for configurable controllers into android
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Purple Filth on March 14, 2013, 09:38:00 PM
Cream again

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Ni no kuni ~ 50k this month, and better than DMC (360+PS3).

 :jada
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on March 14, 2013, 10:18:34 PM
PSP < 10k
100k < DS < 150k < 3DS < 200k < PS3 < 250k
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on March 14, 2013, 10:22:53 PM
Sounds like a disaster all around.  When the #1 game of the month will not get a sequel due to underperformance, that's when you know there's serious problems.

Also LOL at the Wii U.  Iwata should just step down now, not that that is going to do Nintendo any good.  Gallons of Nintard tears are being shed for sure though.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Trent Dole on March 14, 2013, 10:35:53 PM
Next Nintendo Direct to be Iwata pulling a Budd Dwyer.  8)
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Purple Filth on March 14, 2013, 11:14:34 PM
Quote from: maxy on March 14, 2013, 10:18:34 PM
PSP < 10k
100k < DS < 150k < 3DS < 200k < PS3 < 250k

cream adjusted this with PS3 > 250k and Wii < 100k

and

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And then Sony Ecosystem (PS3 + PSV + PSP) > Xbox 360 about 7K.


also


spoiler (click to show/hide)
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MGRR > 190k
DS3 < 610k
[close]

but changed it to obfuscate it better  :lol


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MGRR > 3DS
DS3 < Microsony Ecosystem


So apparently MGR sold around the same as DmC's first month on NPD but Japan helped out Raiden with their numbers
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Human Snorenado on March 14, 2013, 11:49:09 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on March 14, 2013, 07:55:56 PM
In fact I'm pretty comfortable calling the bottom half of the new releases bombas, and even the top half is worth considering.

Burn, industry, burn

(http://media.tumblr.com/6ae1efb1feeb864a01c14aebb957a8e3/tumblr_inline_mj9n9iR7QS1qz4rgp.gif)
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Mr. Gundam on March 14, 2013, 11:51:10 PM
Quote from: Purple Filth on March 14, 2013, 09:38:00 PM
Cream again

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Ni no kuni ~ 50k this month, and better than DMC (360+PS3).

 :jada

Better than DMC this month or LTD?
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Shaka Khan on March 14, 2013, 11:57:48 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on March 14, 2013, 11:28:39 PM
In the long run Dead Space 2 ended up behind Dead Space by about 200k or so. 

SMH
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Purple Filth on March 15, 2013, 12:01:27 AM
Quote from: Mr. Gundam on March 14, 2013, 11:51:10 PM
Quote from: Purple Filth on March 14, 2013, 09:38:00 PM
Cream again

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Ni no kuni ~ 50k this month, and better than DMC (360+PS3).

 :jada

Better than DMC this month or LTD?


this month as oscar said.

On one hand that's pretty good for Ni no Kuni imo but horrible for DMC, especially on 2 platforms
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: pilonv1 on March 15, 2013, 12:21:49 AM
Quote from: Shaka Khan on March 14, 2013, 11:57:48 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on March 14, 2013, 11:28:39 PM
In the long run Dead Space 2 ended up behind Dead Space by about 200k or so. 

SMH

All the focus on pre-ordering and day one killed sales outside of the first month, not surprising
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Momo on March 15, 2013, 12:29:06 AM
Quote from: pilonv1 on March 15, 2013, 12:21:49 AM
All the focus on pre-ordering and day one killed sales outside of the first month, not surprising
When I was a kid when I'd get a 5 year old video game as a gift I'd still be jumping up and down and happily playing. With today's media coverage of every single sneeze and fart a game makes I sometimes feel I 'know' it before even playing and when this is stacked with any other negative thing about a game I tend to pass.
Title: Re: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Shaka Khan on March 15, 2013, 12:48:10 AM
Quote from: pilonv1 on March 15, 2013, 12:21:49 AM
Quote from: Shaka Khan on March 14, 2013, 11:57:48 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on March 14, 2013, 11:28:39 PM
In the long run Dead Space 2 ended up behind Dead Space by about 200k or so. 

SMH

All the focus on pre-ordering and day one killed sales outside of the first month, not surprising

That and sequels tend to be front loaded, but still, DS2 deserved better. It's not like the first game set the bar impossibly high, right?
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: MCD on March 15, 2013, 01:36:11 AM
So Rising bombed? I saw that coming when someone tweeted how you could beat it under 6 hours or so.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: MCD on March 15, 2013, 02:14:13 AM
It's not only additional length. After chapter 4, you only have 3 chapters which are basically boss fights.

DMC4 had at least 10 chapters, not counting Dante's filler chapters. NG2 is about the same with 2 or 3 filler ones.

MGR to me had huge potential but was rushed thanks to Kojima fucking with it for far too long.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Shaka Khan on March 15, 2013, 02:23:23 AM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on March 15, 2013, 02:05:48 AM
ehn, i don't think additional length would have helped it much.  but oh well, this was probably pretty cheap from the point platinum was brought in to completion, and with the strong japanese numbers, i'm sure konami made some money on it.  i hope it was successful enough from their pov to work with platinum again.  with the wii u in freefall, i'm very worried about platinum's future now.

Oh wow, I didn't think of the Wii U's implications on P*'s prospects until this post. :-\
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: archnemesis on March 15, 2013, 02:31:08 AM
Haven't all of Platinum's games sold pretty poorly with maybe the exception of Bayonetta (1.35 million worldwide)? Vanquish did 880k.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on March 15, 2013, 02:49:16 AM
Funny how nobody wants  WiiU Basic but everybody wants "Vita Basic"...Sony fucked up something

I don't think just dropping the price to $250 would help Basic,360 Core was priced $100 less but nobody cared about it.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: MCD on March 15, 2013, 03:26:15 AM
They need to cater to the regular folks instead of action fans and their no damage ranking fetish.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Sho Nuff on March 15, 2013, 03:28:55 AM
Quote from: Howard Alan Treesong on March 14, 2013, 08:07:03 PM
Looks like I picked the right week to stop making games!

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_bpdWsOrotV0/TTncIdHZnqI/AAAAAAAAECI/w23EbQAHfto/s1600/lloyd%2Bbridges%2Bairplane%2B1.jpg)

F U Treesong
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on March 15, 2013, 03:42:11 AM
Well Platinum basicly makes games in a pretty niche genre outside of God of War. The hack and slash action adventure isn't really big in the US and Europe.

Maybe some games did ok in the past but I have never bought anything like God of War since I played DMC on the PS2. I don't know what people are expecting them to sell. Grasshopper is also in this pickle.

Vanquish is an exception but it was so Japanese/floaty in its controls... I couldn't get over that and I like 3rd person shooters a lot.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on March 15, 2013, 05:10:33 AM
Some SS related numbers

- Soul Sacrifice bundle: 17k.
- Sell-through for all versions: 76% (~150k shipped)


Speaking of Vita,not sure how long will this thing last in US,February data shows sub 10k per week.I think that Gamestop alone has like 4.4k stores in US,so even if we wrongly assume 100% Gamestop market coverage that puts about 2 Vitas per store weekly.That is simply awful.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Third on March 15, 2013, 08:21:40 AM
I wonder how Bayonetta 2 will do on the Wii U. Especially in NA.

The consoles is practivally on life support, and Bayonetta is a Platinum Game aka not really a commercial game.

Something tells me that NIntendo wasted money with this deal, and PG is wasting time with it.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Beezy on March 15, 2013, 09:24:51 AM
Platinum :(

I thought Japan loved action games. Is the problem that they're not on handhelds?
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on March 15, 2013, 10:06:40 AM
Which games from this genre have come out this 8 year long gen that had some impact on the market? None.

God of War and Dantes Inferno are prob the only ones that sold well, but you have the data. But not well enough to get a Dantes Inferno 2, and you know EA would be down for that shit.

If we look at the NPD's from the last 6/8 years how many 3rd person melee action games are there?
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on March 15, 2013, 10:18:52 AM
Omg youre so smart and on the inside
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on March 15, 2013, 10:19:15 AM
december 2012

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1. Call of Duty: Black Ops II (360, PS3, Wii U, PC)* Activision Blizzard
 
2. Just Dance 4 (Wii, 360, Wii U, PS3) Ubisoft
 
3. Halo 4 (360)* Microsoft
 
4. Assassin's Creed III (360, PS3, PC, Wii U)* Ubisoft
 
5. Madden NFL 13 (360, PS3, Wii, PSV, Wii U) Electronic Arts
 
6. Far Cry 3 (360, PS3, PC) Ubisoft
 
7. NBA 2K13 (360, PS3, Wii, Wii U, PSP, PC)* Take 2 Interactive
 
8. Skylander Giants (Wii, 360, PS3, 3DS, Wii U)* Activision Blizzard
 
9. New Super Mario Bros. 2 (3DS) Nintendo
 
10. FIFA Soccer 13 (360, PS3, Wii, PSV, Wii U, 3DS, PSP) Electronic Arts

0 games in genre

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1. Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3 (X360, PS3, PC) - Activision
2. Just Dance 3 (Wii, 360, PS3) - Ubisoft
3. The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim (360, PS3, PC) - Bethesda Softworks
4. NBA 2K12 (360, PS3, PS2, PSP, Wii, PC) - Take-Two
5. Battlefield 3 (X360, PS3, PC) - EA
6. Madden NFL 12 (X360, PS3, Wii, PS2, PSP) - EA
7. Mario Kart 7 (3DS) - Nintendo
8. Skylanders: Spyro's Adventure (360, PS3, Wii, 3DS, PC) - Activision Blizzard
9. Zumba Fitness 2 (Wii) - Majesco
10. Saints Row: The Third (360, PS3, PC) - THQ


0 games in january 2012

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Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3 (360, PS3, Wii, PC)
 2.Final Fantasy XIII-2 (PS3, 360)
 3.UFC Undisputed 3 (360, PS3)
 4.Kingdoms of Amalur: Reckoning (360, PS3, PC)
 5.Just Dance 3 (Wii, 360, PS3)
 6.NBA 2K12 (360, PS3, PSP, Wii, PC, PS2)
 7.SoulCalibur 5 (360, PS3)
 8.Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim (360, PS3, PC)
 9.Twisted Metal 2012 (PS3)
 10.Battlefield 3 (360, PS3, PC)

0 games in feb 12

SOFTWARE

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01. Mass Effect 3 (360, PS3, PC)** Electronic Arts -Over 1.14 Million, possibly by a lot ("More than twice ME2 debut")
02. Resident Evil: Operation Raccoon City (360, PS3)** Capcom USA -582K
03. MLB 12: The Show (PS3, PSV) Sony (Corp)
04. NBA 2K12 (360, PS3, Wii, PSP, PC, PS2) Take 2 Interactive
05. SSX 2012 (360, PS3) Electronic Arts
06. Street Fighter X Tekken (PS3, 360)** Capcom USA
07. Mario Party 9 (Wii) Nintendo - 230K
08. Call of Duty: Modern Warfar 3 (360, PS3, Wii, PC)** Activision Blizzard
09. Naruto Shippuden: Ultimate Ninja (360, PS3) Namco Bandai Games
10. Major League Baseball 2K12 (360, PS3, Wii, NDS, PSP, PC, PS2) Take 2 Interactive

0 games in march 12
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on March 15, 2013, 10:23:49 AM
Ive found 0 games so far in 2012 npd's top 10, im so so wrong.

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•1.) Prototype 2 (360, PS3)
 •2.) Kinect: Star Wars (360)
 •3.) Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3 (360, PS3, Wii, PC)
 •4.) Tiger Woods PGA Tour 13 (360, PS3)
 •5.) NBA 2K12 (360, PS3, Wii, PSP, PC, PS2)
 •6.) The Witcher 2: Assassin of Kings (360, PC)
 •7.) Mario Party 9 (Wii)
 •8.) Mass Effect 3 (360, PS3, PC)
 •9.) Just Dance 3 (Wii, 360, PS3)
 •10.) MLB 12: The Show (PS3, PSV)

April 12, 0 games
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Beezy on March 15, 2013, 10:25:02 AM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on March 15, 2013, 09:55:12 AM
Quote from: Beezy on March 15, 2013, 09:24:51 AM
Platinum :(

I thought Japan loved action games. Is the problem that they're not on handhelds?

It sold just fine in Japan.
So what's all this Platinum doom talk in here about?
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: archnemesis on March 15, 2013, 10:26:57 AM
Quote from: Beezy on March 15, 2013, 10:25:02 AM
So what's all this Platinum doom talk in here about?
Selling well in one region might not be enough depending on development costs.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Joe Molotov on March 15, 2013, 10:27:23 AM
Quote from: Beezy on March 15, 2013, 10:25:02 AM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on March 15, 2013, 09:55:12 AM
Quote from: Beezy on March 15, 2013, 09:24:51 AM
Platinum :(

I thought Japan loved action games. Is the problem that they're not on handhelds?

It sold just fine in Japan.
So what's all this Platinum doom talk in here about?

They make WiiU games. :(
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on March 15, 2013, 10:29:45 AM
Oscar I did 6 months of NPD in 2012, 0 games in this niche genre. So youre wrong. Im right.  So dont get butthurt if you are wrong.

Im not going to do more "research" cause its clear that if out of 60 games that charted 0 of them are even in genre the genre aint much.

May 0 2012 games...

(http://images.eurogamer.net/2012/articles//a/1/4/9/2/6/4/4/npdmay2012chart.jpg)
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on March 15, 2013, 10:31:46 AM
Omg where are all these 3rd person action melee games oscar

link plz
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on March 15, 2013, 10:37:15 AM
So in 6 months nothing released and youre saying its not a niche genre?  :lol

Dude.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Human Snorenado on March 15, 2013, 10:38:58 AM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on March 15, 2013, 10:38:03 AM
Right, Lager's going full tard now.  Have a great summer, man!

I've been so much more relaxed since he got a one way ticket to ignore-ville.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Great Rumbler on March 15, 2013, 10:40:08 AM
Quote from: Premium Lager on March 15, 2013, 10:37:15 AM
So in 6 months nothing released and youre saying its not a niche genre?  :lol

Dude.

Well, there was this new games that came out recently. Had something to do with tombs, maybe you raided them. Something like that.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on March 15, 2013, 10:41:05 AM
1. i sat its a niche genre
2. youre saying its not a niche genre
3. i post 6 months of npds
4. you say that proves nothing cause no games in that genre came out then
5. i say that also proves its a niche genre
6. you say im going full distinguished mentally-challenged fellow
7. :pacspit

have nice summer indeed distinguished mentally-challenged fellow! Unless youre gonna share some of them lists or npd top 10's where these games are not  niche youre dead wrong.

Quote from: Great Rumbler on March 15, 2013, 10:40:08 AM
Quote from: Premium Lager on March 15, 2013, 10:37:15 AM
So in 6 months nothing released and youre saying its not a niche genre?  :lol

Dude.

Well, there was this new games that came out recently. Had something to do with tombs, maybe you raided them. Something like that.

Thats not a melee based 3rd person game, its  a 3rd person shooter/platformer. Completely different genre and one thats  doing pretty good.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Beezy on March 15, 2013, 10:53:08 AM
Tupac :lol
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on March 15, 2013, 10:53:20 AM
DRUNK GO HOME

YOU'RE LAGER
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Stoney Mason on March 15, 2013, 11:18:10 AM
Crysis 3 - 260k


Well that series is gonna end soon.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: archie4208 on March 15, 2013, 11:22:23 AM
Quote from: Stoney Mason on March 15, 2013, 11:18:10 AM
Crysis 3 - 260k


Well that series is gonna end soon.

Thankfully Crytek is segueing into a F2P company so they'll be alright.  :rock
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Post by: archnemesis on March 15, 2013, 11:22:35 AM
That's retail sales, right? It's primarily a PC franchise and there you have to take digital sales into account.
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Post by: Stoney Mason on March 15, 2013, 11:26:54 AM
Quote from: archnemesis on March 15, 2013, 11:22:35 AM
That's retail sales, right? It's primarily a PC franchise and there you have to take digital sales into account.

I don't think that's going to save it but whatevs. That series needs a massive injection of new ideas anyway. Its run its course.
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Post by: Great Rumbler on March 15, 2013, 11:28:00 AM
Quote from: archnemesis on March 15, 2013, 11:22:35 AM
That's retail sales, right? It's primarily a PC franchise and there you have to take digital sales into account.

*Not available on Steam
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Post by: archnemesis on March 15, 2013, 11:30:42 AM
For real? That's just plain stupid.

Edit: I didn't realize it was published by EA.
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Post by: Great Rumbler on March 15, 2013, 11:34:03 AM
Crysis looks like it has decent legs as a series. The first sold for a long time and eventually got up to over 3 million worldwide, while the the second debuted at #7 in March 2011 and managed to get up to about the same amount. So, there may be some hope for it, but...uh...probably not a whole lot.
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Post by: Stoney Mason on March 15, 2013, 11:39:35 AM
I think the original sold well because it was a showpiece game at a time when there weren't that many show pieces on the PC. It had a system exclusive vibe going for it with a benchmark approach to graphics to measure your e-peen via video cards. It held a unique spot. Of course it was also constantly on sale for years after that.

I don't think Crysis 3 holds the same unique spot in the industry at this moment. Especially with next gen consoles right around the corner.
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Post by: Eel O'Brian on March 15, 2013, 12:18:49 PM
yeah, origin-only looks like another brilliant ea move, plus it doesn't help that the crysis games have been getting progressively stupider with each sequel
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Post by: maxy on March 15, 2013, 12:27:35 PM
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The Wii U's struggles continued last month, as Nintendo's latest console moved 66,000 units in the US, according to a Macquarie Capital analyst note on yesterday's NPD numbers.

While the Wii U was far outpaced by sales of the Xbox 360 (302,000) and PlayStation 3 (263,000), Macquarie's Ben Schachter described it as a good performance, noting it was up 45 percent month-over-month. The improvement also suggests Nintendo will be able to meet its recently reduced sales targets for the fiscal year, he added.

The Wii U Deluxe model continues to account for the bulk of interest in the system, Schachter said. He noted that more than 70 percent of consumer demand is for that edition, which comes in black, is bundled with the Nintendo Land game, and costs $350 as opposed to the standard edition's $300 tag.

While Schachter was mildly positive on the Wii U's numbers, his attitude toward the console market as a whole was a bit dimmer in the short term.

"With yet another month of double-digit declines (despite the relatively easier y/y comps in 2012), it remains clear that beyond the most important core titles, the industry as a whole continues to deteriorate," Schachter wrote. "We continue to believe that top AAA titles will remain relatively strong, but everything else in packaged goods will deteriorate ahead of the console transition. We believe gamers are questioning paying top dollar for an average experience (especially for younger demographics),when they are able to get other enjoyable experiences from a free or low-cost app."
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Post by: AdmiralViscen on March 15, 2013, 01:43:44 PM
Does Lager really think that those shitty top 10 lists he keeps posting are the extent of NPD data for the last 6-8 years?
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Post by: Momo on March 15, 2013, 02:19:59 PM
Lager must be the greatest fisherman ever cause he keeps getting bites :lol
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Post by: maxy on March 15, 2013, 02:27:37 PM
LAGER IS A CG
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Post by: Cerveza mas fina on March 15, 2013, 03:14:27 PM
 :phil
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Post by: Flannel Boy on March 15, 2013, 03:21:01 PM
Quote from: Momo on March 15, 2013, 02:19:59 PM
Lager must be the greatest fisherman ever cause he keeps getting bites :lol

so you're saying he's a fishing Pole.
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Post by: Huff on March 15, 2013, 03:41:21 PM
 :comeon
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Post by: Steve Contra on March 15, 2013, 04:00:09 PM
For reference the Wii sold 335k it's first February, and the ps3 sold 129k
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Post by: Steve Youngblood on March 15, 2013, 04:18:53 PM
But those platforms didn't have a soft launch strategy going for them, so I don't know why we're comparing them. I think we can all agree that there's no point in comparing against the PS3 as of yesterday when the launch aligned numbers for the Wii U became no longer favorable.
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Post by: Steve Contra on March 15, 2013, 04:22:52 PM
Soft launch strategy.  That's pretty good.  I'm using that in the future.
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Post by: Mr. Gundam on March 15, 2013, 04:37:22 PM
Soft launch typically suggests that things will strengthen over time...
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Post by: hampster on March 15, 2013, 04:41:18 PM
The Wii U will be fine once it exits beta. I saw on twitter the other day that Minecraft sold more after the full release then it did before
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Post by: Steve Youngblood on March 15, 2013, 04:55:08 PM
Quote from: Mr. Gundam on March 15, 2013, 04:37:22 PM
Soft launch typically suggests that things will strengthen over time...

Just wait until Spaceworld when they drop the hammer. Panic mode Nintendo is best Nintendo. This Christmas, all the big games will be out, there'll be a price cut, and this system will be kicking as much ass and taking as many names as we pretend the 3DS is right now world wide.
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Post by: mjemirzian on March 15, 2013, 10:42:54 PM
I'm not big on sales numbers but I consider it a minor miracle that Platinum is still around.
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Post by: cool breeze on March 15, 2013, 10:55:38 PM
at least Mikami and others bailed out for Zenimax

and nintendo 'saved' bayonetta 2 and funded kamiya's wonderful 101, so two more games there.
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Post by: Cerveza mas fina on March 16, 2013, 03:52:32 AM
Oscar, as you say thats not the definition Id use for this genre. And I dont think the people that pick Ass Creed up, or Dark Souls, Darksiders or Batman (kingdom hearts) are looking for something like Bayonetta at all. Dark Souls is being sold as an action rpg, darksiders as a zelda like with better combat, ass creed is an open worldish thingy. All these games try to offer a much deeper experience is some sense.

The Ninja Gaidens, God of Wars and DMC's are just a different genre, button combo mashers.

If we cant agree there is a fundamental difference between those games then there is no point in talking about sales. We can agree to disagree but there is no point in insults.
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Post by: benjipwns on March 16, 2013, 03:57:26 AM
No point in insults?

FORGET THIS FORUM THEN
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Post by: archnemesis on March 16, 2013, 03:57:56 AM
It's often called the "stylish action" sub-genre.
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Post by: Cerveza mas fina on March 16, 2013, 04:11:05 AM
Also what makes platinum games a niche within a niche is their looks, bro's that like god of war wont pick up bayonetta.

Same goes for vanquish I think compared to bro shooters.
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Post by: Damian79 on March 16, 2013, 04:13:48 AM
You do realise a niche genre is determined by sales and not how many games get released right?  Next thing you know you are going to say that SSB games are a nice genre too because of how many similar games gets released.
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Post by: Raban on March 16, 2013, 04:14:16 AM
Quote from: Premium Lager on March 16, 2013, 04:11:05 AM
Also what makes platinum games a niche within a niche is their looks, bro's that like god of war wont pick up bayonetta.

Same goes for vanquish I think compared to bro shooters.

I tried to sell a Gears-playing friend on Vanquish and when I said "rocket knees" he just made this face: :wtf
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Post by: Cerveza mas fina on March 16, 2013, 04:16:24 AM
Exactly Raban.

Damian: there is niche genres, and there is one offs. Ssb is a one off in this fighting game category of its own. Maybe there are a few more games in it (powerstone?) but the success is def for one game only. Its a sub category of beat em ups, but I almost wouldnt call it a genre cause its just one or two games.
Its something of its own.
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Post by: Rahxephon91 on March 16, 2013, 04:30:28 AM
Platinum just doesn't make games people want. It's not really about the gameplay, it's the looks. They make unappealing games.

I look at Platinum's games, I see the complete over the topness and I see something that's awesome. People see them and think they  look dumb. They look "strange".

Bayonetta looks pretty fucking silly I bet to your average person. "Here's this strange witch chick that uses hair? what?And then she's fighting these angel things in strange maybe European settings?" God of War is way easier to comprehend and well it also doesn't seem as silly. It also seems serious and "mature". Now I think God of War is dumb, but hell in my days at Gamestop, I'm not sure that's quite the general consensus. I'm not sure you're average gamer necessarily thinks game stories are stupid and they sure want games that are seemingly "mature" and "serious". Or at least games that make an effort.

With Vanquish, it's just like wtf is this? A robot dude fighting robots? Naw that's got nothing on military people killing stuff as seen in Gears. I mean I think Gears is ok, but I think Vanquish is amazing. But many people kept telling me how it looked stupid with it's robot man rocketing around.

It's pretty obvious why Anarchy Reigns failed.

And well Rising well, I mean the Metal Gear community was seemingly furious when the game was announced. Well, I guess because it looked stupid and over the top. Not the grandiose epic from the masterful Kojima.

And I think that's the problem, they just aren't making games that are capturing the western audience. They aren't making games with supposedly serious subject material that are pushing serious narrative. They are making over the top dumb things and I don't think that's what your average consumer wants. The look of their games is well again silly. It's not very "anime" enough for the crowd that that would appeal to and I guess they look "dumb". The games they are makeing are good, but it's hard to make people get to the point when they are actually playing them.
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Post by: Damian79 on March 16, 2013, 04:31:38 AM
You are missing the point, basically a niche genre is like adventure games that dont sell any more.  By your definition realistic driving sims like GT and Forza are niche too.
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Post by: MCD on March 16, 2013, 04:52:55 AM
Quote from: Rahxephon91 on March 16, 2013, 04:30:28 AM
Platinum just doesn't make games people want. It's not really about the gameplay, it's the looks. They make unappealing games.

I look at Platinum's games, I see the complete over the topness and I see something that's awesome. People see that and it looks dumb. It's looks "strange".

Bayonetta looks pretty fucking silly I bet to your average person. Here's this strange witch chick that uses hair? what?And then she's fighting these angel things in strange maybe European settings? God of War is way easier to comprehend and well it also doesn't seem as silly. Now I think God of War is dumb, but hell in my days at Gamestop, I'm not sure that's quite the general consensus.

With Vanquish, it's just like wtf is this? A robot dude fighting robots? Naw that's got nothing on military people killing stuff in Gears. I mean I think Gears is ok, but I think Vanquish is amazing. But many people kept telling me  hot  it looked stupid with it's robot man rocketing around.

It's pretty obvious why Anarchy Reigns failed.

And well Rising well, I mean the Metal Gear community was seemingly furious when the game was announced. Well, I guess because it looked stupid and over the top. Not the grandiose epic from the masterful Kojima.

And I think that's the problem, they just aren't making games that are capturing the western audience. They aren't making games with supposedly serious subject material that are pushing serious narrative. They are making over the top dumb things and I don't think that's what your average consumer wants. The look of their games is well again silly. It's not very "anime" enough for the crowd that that would appeal to and I guess they look "dumb". The games they are make are good, but it's hard to make people get to the point when they are actually playing them.
(http://i.imgur.com/Exp6mkp.jpg)
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Post by: Kim Kardashians Butt on March 16, 2013, 06:35:13 AM
I think platinum games issue is a marketing problem more than anything else. I'm not convinced that all gamers want serious narratives. Saints Row puts a good end to that argument and sells pretty damn well for what it is. Plats games don't sell because the advertising for them is terrible and there's very little awareness of them. You seriously think people aren't going to buy a Metal Gear title because it has....action? This is an issue of awareness, PR, and marketing.

It doesn't help that 4 poisoned the well for the fan base. MGS for me used to be a day one franchise. I have yet to buy PW, HD Collection, or Rising.
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Post by: Kim Kardashians Butt on March 16, 2013, 06:42:58 AM
Exactly. Bayo - their most successful game - is banana land. Rahx's post ignores fact and just appears to be a sweeping indictment on all gamers who haven't bought Vanquish or share his tastes. You really think a game like Vanquish wouldnt sell gang busters with a proper marketing back I g behind it? To my memory, I was surprised vanquish even came out when it did. I remember zero commercials. Plus these games aren't even on steam. Vanquish would clean up shop during a steam sale, guaranteed.

Also, gamers are against a specific TYPE of Japanese game. P+ games aren't that kind of game I think.
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Post by: Kim Kardashians Butt on March 16, 2013, 06:46:23 AM
I just attribute lagers aversion of the nihonjin to be bad taste. :yeshrug
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Post by: Momo on March 16, 2013, 06:49:26 AM
Kim Kardashians Butt having an avatar of Kim Kardashian sans butt causes a weird disconnect in my mind
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Post by: Kim Kardashians Butt on March 16, 2013, 06:50:11 AM
Nsfw.
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Post by: Cerveza mas fina on March 16, 2013, 11:07:13 AM
More butt less lip
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Post by: Beezy on March 16, 2013, 11:13:39 AM
Quote from: Kim Kardashians Butt on March 16, 2013, 06:42:58 AM
Exactly. Bayo - their most successful game - is banana land. Rahx's post ignores fact and just appears to be a sweeping indictment on all gamers who haven't bought Vanquish or share his tastes. You really think a game like Vanquish wouldnt sell gang busters with a proper marketing back I g behind it? To my memory, I was surprised vanquish even came out when it did. I remember zero commercials. Plus these games aren't even on steam. Vanquish would clean up shop during a steam sale, guaranteed.

For 5 bucks. Woopty doo.
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Post by: Kim Kardashians Butt on March 16, 2013, 11:22:42 AM
:troll
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Post by: Great Rumbler on March 16, 2013, 11:39:34 AM
Vanquish did sell far better than Binary Domain, for whatever that's worth.
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Post by: Momo on March 16, 2013, 12:12:15 PM
I enjoyed both games very much, of the two I would have expected Binary Domain to sell more though
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Post by: Cerveza mas fina on March 16, 2013, 12:21:18 PM
Binary Domain box looks like budget euro jank. Plus you fight robots and the game had no buzz at all.
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Post by: MCD on March 16, 2013, 12:22:23 PM
And no COOP.

I cannot play a shooter with no COOP. DISGUSTING.
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Post by: Rahxephon91 on March 16, 2013, 12:56:01 PM
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I think platinum games issue is a marketing problem more than anything else.
But Rising was marketed well.

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I'm not convinced that all gamers want serious narratives.
Of course not, but lets look at new ips that have caught on this gen. Uncharted, Assassin's Creed, Mass Effect, Gears of War, Call of Duty. I'm sure there's more, but all these games have more "realistic" and/or seemingly more "serious" storytelling/tone. I think thats whats in vogue now. Of course I'm not trying to say this is some complete absolute, but I think it's true.
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Saints Row puts a good end to that argument and sells pretty damn well for what it is.
It really dosen't though, because it ignores the other point of my argument other then the fact that of course it's not absolute. Saints Row isn't strange. It's over the top gangster crap that any American can get where it's coming from. It's type of humor is pretty much present in American comedies. It's nothing like the wackyness of Bayonetta, not even close.

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You seriously think people aren't going to buy a Metal Gear title because it has....action?
That's not what I said. I said people weren't interested in it because of the over the top "silliness" it has. People buy action games all the time, but thier is a huge difference in tone between God of War and Rising, and that's probably what turned people off. Read the threads when the game was announced, it was all "this looks stupid" "this looks completely dumb compared to Kojima!".

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Plats games don't sell because the advertising for them is terrible and there's very little awareness of them.
Thats probably part of it, but I'm not sure marketing would really help that much. i thought Bayo had enough awareness, doesnt seem like it sold enough. Rising sure did and it's a Metal Gear game, apparently that wasn't enough.

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It doesn't help that 4 poisoned the well for the fan base. MGS for me used to be a day one franchise. I have yet to buy PW, HD Collection, or Rising.
But it really didn't. 4 was extremely popular and well received, the audience loved the game. Even with how stupid MGS4 is, it sure is'nt seen the same way as Rising and that's probably why the fanbase did not turn out for the game.

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Rahx's post ignores fact
How? Because I ignore the fact that Bayo is probably their biggest title? Relative to what though? And while you say their games don't have enough awareness, I don't think that was the case with Bayo and yet how well did it do?

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just appears to be a sweeping indictment on all gamers who haven't bought Vanquish or share his tastes.
But it's not. I look at whats popular today, Skyrim, Gears of war, Call of Duty, Uncharted, Mass Effect, Dark Souls, Battlefield, Red Dead Redemption, The Witcher, ect ect, games that got a lot of media coverage and that caught on with a lot of gamers this gen and well I notice that really it's not quality that separates Plats games, it's possibly the way they look. But I also like most of those games listed, so its not like I'm against them.

I'm not sure what makes you sure marketing would really help? What makes you think people would be receptive to the marketing?

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You really think a game like Vanquish wouldnt sell gang busters with a proper marketing back I g behind it?
No I don't.
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Post by: mjemirzian on March 16, 2013, 01:22:19 PM
I'd love to have Bayo, MGR, and Vanquish on PC. Especially Vanquish since it would be 60 fps and I could use the mouse to aim instead of analog.. I might have a chance in hell of clearing God Hard mode.  :-[

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Post by: Beezy on March 16, 2013, 02:04:40 PM
Rah win's this round.
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Post by: MCD on March 16, 2013, 02:06:31 PM
Of course. 2D woman > 3D pig disgusting woman.
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Post by: Kim Kardashians Butt on March 16, 2013, 04:16:26 PM
How well was MGR marketed? Are we talking a commercial the week of release or plenty of media fellatio (Tomb Raider, Far cry 3, Skyrim) for the better part of a year? In the age of the AAA game, simply having a commercial on TV does not mean "marketed well". Look at the new Gears of War
 I have no clue when that game comes out but I'm seeing it all over the place ALREADY. that is good marketing. I didn't even know MGR was coming out last month until the demo by comparison.

You mention popular games that are popular based on how they look, using Dark souls as an example when - and I'd love to be proven wrong by factual sales data - I'm sure Bayonetta sold about as well if not better than Dark Souls.
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Post by: Cerveza mas fina on March 16, 2013, 04:21:14 PM
When I was in London last month every bus had MGS on it.
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Post by: archnemesis on March 16, 2013, 04:21:41 PM
Bayonetta sold 1.35 across two platforms.

Dark Souls sold 1.19 in the west[1] (http://www.playstationlifestyle.net/2012/05/08/namco-bandai-touts-dark-souls-sales-over-1-19-million-in-us-and-europe/), 415k for the PS3 in Japan, plus a fair amount of PC sales.
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Post by: Cerveza mas fina on March 16, 2013, 04:24:36 PM
No to mention that Demon Souls sales were considered such a success that they made Dark Souls. And Dark Souls is such a success that they are making Dark Souls 2.

This means they earned quite a penny.

Meanwhile Bayonetta was axed after the first and only revived by Ninty desperate for a hardcore game.

This tells you enough about cost/sales/success ratio of both titles.
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Post by: Stoney Mason on March 16, 2013, 04:27:37 PM
The reason why certain games receive marketing pushes and certain ones don't (assuming the publisher is big enough to pick and choose what it wants to spend real marketing dollars on) is based on a publishers already formed speculation and projection on the titles.

You put money behind titles that have a real chance to be broad mainstream hits. Certain titles fit that and certain ones don't. (Publishers are also sometimes wrong about this stuff but whatever, you get the point) With limited resources you don't spend tons of marketing on things where the marketing isn't going to overly push the needle. The titles that tend to get marketed are the ones that publishers feel are mainstream enough or the potential to be mainstream enough to crossover. Of course its not a perfect system but I don't like the idea of somebody saying if only X game was marketed, it would be a huge hit. Its a bit axiomatic but the reason certain titles are marketed in the first place is because the company views that title as capable of benefiting from the marketing. If they don't believe it, then they don't spend the dollars. It's not just a case of wanton neglect in most cases. It's picking and choosing and projecting.
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Post by: Kim Kardashians Butt on March 16, 2013, 04:37:43 PM
Huh. Point conceded.on the sales data but I still disagree with Rah's overall point that gamers just want mature games. I think that is over simplifying the problem. Maybe I'm just naive in that I think gamers couldn't be that superficial.

...

Jeez.

Rah is right. :fbm
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Post by: archnemesis on March 16, 2013, 04:47:18 PM
I don't mind games being silly, but one of the problems with Platinum's games is that the story, plot, and characters are all awful. Even in comparison to other quirky Japanese games.
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Post by: Rahxephon91 on March 16, 2013, 04:56:03 PM
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How well was MGR marketed? Are we talking a commercial the week of release or plenty of media fellatio (Tomb Raider, Far cry 3, Skyrim) for the better part of a year?
It was marketed about as well as a game like that can be. "High Profile" announcement, Constant media updates, commercials, web stuff, and at least some media attention based on the fact that it's a metal gear game. I'm not sure what more any reasonable company could do for it. It's not going to get the Rockstar games or CoD treatment, it dosen't deserve it. You say Far Cry 3, it probably got more if not the same level of marketing that game did. I don't even remember seeing that much crap for Far Cry 3. It did get a lot of word of mouth though. The game's existence was made well aware, Konami did as much as any other company would for Rising. Maybe it just didn't catch the public's eye. You mention Skyrim and Tomb Raider, but it's not like the marketing for those games were so above Rising, but they did have kind of more word of mouth. I get this strange feeling people did not care about Rising until well the reviews starting coming out and well why was that?I know Tomb Raider was getting attention, because it was this more gritty reboot of a famed franchisee. Likewise Skyrim was riding off Bethesda's momentum and looked to be an even more "get lost in this extremely detailed world". A world that would probably be more appealing right now then the world of a equally good jrpg. Hell whats also extremely popular with perhaps the same crowd that's bying video games? Game of Thrones. How would you describer GoTs? Well I would describe it as this very serious and realistic take on fantasy, and maybe thats why it's caught on. Good storytelling now doubt, but is that all it needed to make it a hit? But that's my point, right now this kind of realistic and seriously toned stuff is what's popular. Nolan's Batman makes tons of money and yes while there is stuff like The Avengers, it doesn't change my point. I'm not saying everything needs to be "realistic", but I think people right now are more receptive to things that don't seem wacky.

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In the age of the AAA game, simply having a commercial on TV does not mean "marketed well". Look at the new Gears of War
I have no clue when that game comes out but I'm seeing it all over the place ALREADY. that is good marketing. I didn't even know MGR was coming out last month until the demo by comparison.
You sure the problem isn't just you? I mean you we're both just saying anecdotal evidence really, but I mean I'm not sure anyone who would have been interested in Rising would have not known. That type of gamer is online, watches channels where commercials of the game would be, some of them read forums, and so on. What more did you want? It had about the same level of crap as most AAA games that aren't CoD or Rockstar's stuff. It also has a name that's quite well known.

I mean if I had to guess what went wrong with MGR is that it came out way to late. It needed to come out two years tops after MGS4. It needed a main game to ride the momentum off of. Plus MGS4 came out in 08, I don't think the actual identity of this gen had settled in. Shit changed.

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You mention popular games that are popular based on how they look,
I mention popular games that are the complete oppisate in style, tone, and storytelling then what Plat does. But I don't mean they are popular because of that. I mean if they weren't good games, it wouldn't matter. But I think their subject material is more inviting to people then that of Plats games.

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using Dark souls as an example when - and I'd love to be proven wrong by factual sales data - I'm sure Bayonetta sold about as well if not better than Dark Souls.
In the US? I have no idea. I'm sure Dark Souls has sold almost as well if not better, but it's a series that will continue to grow, unlike Bayo. And it's not because of its looks, its mostly about gameplay. But would the game had caught on with a more typical anime art design? With a story like Tales of? Same gameplay, but more like your everyday jrpg? I doubt it.

You say all these games need is better marketing, but what does that mean and why would that make them sell significantly better? What games like them have sold better? I'm sure their are quite a few games that have received worse or the same level of marketing that have sold better then Bayo or Rising.
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Post by: Kim Kardashians Butt on March 16, 2013, 04:59:34 PM
Another reason I'm not convinced gamers only want mature games is the Mega bombas like Max Payne 3. Despite being a former heavy hitter and a multi million ad campaign it under delivered. Whether that's due to a bloated budget I'm not sure. It could also be argued that Bayonetta, if released on PC could have some damn good sales. The same goes for Vanquish.

If you look at Rah's list of mature games, you will see a pattern: all of them either emphasize a fantastic multi component or the games are choice heavy open world games, the two genres that generated the biggest boom this gen. It sounds premature to attribute all of these games success to pure aesthetic. That's illogical.

Rah, do you remember Sega's marketing for Vanquish? I don't. You think the masses would find a game where the guy lights a cig with his body is weird and would drive them away? I don't see it. Especially considering games like saints row, dead rising 1 and 2, and even devil may cry 4 contain quirk and what the fuck. More than likely, had the game contained a co op mode, one that is fleshed out, it would have sold better. I can't attribute Vanquish bombing to the fact it stars a dude in a robot suit.
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Post by: mjemirzian on March 16, 2013, 05:03:14 PM
I bet Platinum Games could get a killer kickstarter going if they had to. :P
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Post by: tiesto on March 16, 2013, 05:03:55 PM
I much prefer wacky and silly games... anything super realistic or Lord of the Rings-esque I tend to tune out...

Also, why does everyone think (insert niche Japanese game here) will sell better on PC? Does PC have a history of people who are into Japanese games? As far as I can tell, no. On GAF, the average PC "master race" kid tends to mock anything even remotely Japanese or "console-ish", as they wipe off cheeto-dust on their too-tight Metallica t-shirt. Maybe they'll get some sales in a Steam sale when they are marked down to $5. Besides, the majority of Japanese games nowadays don't really push the technical envelope, so it's not like they'd have an advantage being on a PC as opposed to a console/handheld.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: MCD on March 16, 2013, 05:06:37 PM
I don't think it's about the Mature theme.

PG+ games have this unappealing look to them. Bayonetta? More like Japanese femdom fetish. Vanquish? Is this the sequel to Bomberman X360? Anarchy Reigns? This isn't Dynasty Warriors who cares.

Rising was the only normal one but MG fans never asked for it so only action fans bought it.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: MCD on March 16, 2013, 05:08:40 PM
Quote from: tiesto on March 16, 2013, 05:03:55 PM
I much prefer wacky and silly games... anything super realistic or Lord of the Rings-esque I tend to tune out...

Also, why does everyone think (insert niche Japanese game here) will sell better on PC? Does PC have a history of people who are into Japanese games? As far as I can tell, no. On GAF, the average PC "master race" kid tends to mock anything even remotely Japanese or "console-ish", as they wipe off cheeto-dust on their too-tight Metallica t-shirt. Maybe they'll get some sales in a Steam sale when they are marked down to $5.
It's the usual crazy PC/Steam fegs who are in every thread port begging, just ignore them.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Kim Kardashians Butt on March 16, 2013, 05:16:32 PM
Quote from: tiesto on March 16, 2013, 05:03:55 PM
I much prefer wacky and silly games... anything super realistic or Lord of the Rings-esque I tend to tune out...

Also, why does everyone think (insert niche Japanese game here) will sell better on PC? Does PC have a history of people who are into Japanese games? As far as I can tell, no. On GAF, the average PC "master race" kid tends to mock anything even remotely Japanese or "console-ish", as they wipe off cheeto-dust on their too-tight Metallica t-shirt. Maybe they'll get some sales in a Steam sale when they are marked down to $5. Besides, the majority of Japanese games nowadays don't really push the technical envelope, so it's not like they'd have an advantage being on a PC as opposed to a console/handheld.

Because it is an untapped market and they're dumb for not putting up their games on steam cuz easy money and I don't want to buy next Gen consoles. :p
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: archnemesis on March 16, 2013, 05:27:19 PM
Quote from: tiesto on March 16, 2013, 05:03:55 PM
Also, why does everyone think (insert niche Japanese game here) will sell better on PC? Does PC have a history of people who are into Japanese games?
Right now there is a high demand and low supply of Japanese games on Steam which means that even crap like Recettear, Chantelise, and Fortune Summoners sell pretty well. Getting quality titles like Ys out before there is any competition is a sure way to make a decent amount of sales. Final Fantasy 7/8 will also sell like crazy on brand name alone if they price it right.
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Post by: Kim Kardashians Butt on March 16, 2013, 05:33:22 PM
If s-e don't put ff10 HD on steam they're fucking idiots.

They won't. :(
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Post by: Beezy on March 16, 2013, 05:33:32 PM
Do we know for a fact that the Ys games have sold well on Steam? What about the japanese shoot em ups on there?
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Kim Kardashians Butt on March 16, 2013, 05:40:09 PM
What Japanese shoot em ups?
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Post by: archnemesis on March 16, 2013, 05:43:33 PM
It has sold well enough to motivate XSeed to release more Falcom games on the platform.

Shoot 'em ups:
• eXceed - Gun Bullet Children
• eXceed 2nd - Vampire REX
• eXceed 3rd - Jade Penetrate Black Package
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: D3RANG3D on March 16, 2013, 05:43:39 PM
Quote from: tiesto on March 16, 2013, 05:03:55 PM
I much prefer wacky and silly games... anything super realistic or Lord of the Rings-esque I tend to tune out...

Also, why does everyone think (insert niche Japanese game here) will sell better on PC? Does PC have a history of people who are into Japanese games? As far as I can tell, no. On GAF, the average PC "master race" kid tends to mock anything even remotely Japanese or "console-ish", as they wipe off cheeto-dust on their too-tight Metallica t-shirt. Maybe they'll get some sales in a Steam sale when they are marked down to $5.

Hasn't Derrick01 suffered enough?

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He's an annoying fuckwit that needs to diaf.
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Quote from: MCD on March 16, 2013, 05:08:40 PM
It's the usual crazy PC/Steam fegs who are in every thread port begging, just ignore them.

Console fegs do this all the time PC threads.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: MCD on March 16, 2013, 05:45:20 PM
I am not poor so I don't read PC threads, sorry.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: D3RANG3D on March 16, 2013, 05:47:11 PM
Quote from: MCD on March 16, 2013, 05:45:20 PM
I am not poor so I don't read PC threads, sorry.

You are fegburt, with a gaming pc and peripherals to play shitty hentai games :smug
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Post by: Beezy on March 16, 2013, 05:49:36 PM
Quote from: archnemesis on March 16, 2013, 05:43:33 PM
It has sold well enough to motivate XSeed to release more Falcom games on the platform.

Shoot 'em ups:
• eXceed - Gun Bullet Children
• eXceed 2nd - Vampire REX
• eXceed 3rd - Jade Penetrate Black Package
Also Sine Mora. I thought there was more than this. Oh well.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Kim Kardashians Butt on March 16, 2013, 05:50:08 PM
There was a rumor Dynasty Warriors 7XL was coming to steam via the registry. Game came out on PC definitely....but not in English and never on steam. For niche games it just seems like they don't want even more money. I'm pretty positive Ys games have sold far better on steam than they did on PSP.

Technically Sine Mora isn't a Japanese.shooter, Bees.
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Post by: MCD on March 16, 2013, 05:50:17 PM
Quote from: D3RANG3D on March 16, 2013, 05:47:11 PM
Quote from: MCD on March 16, 2013, 05:45:20 PM
I am not poor so I don't read PC threads, sorry.

You are fegburt, with a gaming pc and peripherals to play shitty hentai games :smug

Don't remind me, the wait for Monster Girl Quest 3 is destroying my penis.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: archnemesis on March 16, 2013, 05:51:49 PM
Sine Mora is great, but it was developed by a Hungarian developer with some Japanese input. Jamestown is also really fun non-Japanese shoot 'em up.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Beezy on March 16, 2013, 05:59:39 PM
 :ohhh
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Momo on March 17, 2013, 01:46:12 AM
Quote from: archnemesis on March 16, 2013, 05:43:33 PM
It has sold well enough to motivate XSeed to release more Falcom games on the platform.

Shoot 'em ups:
• eXceed - Gun Bullet Children
• eXceed 2nd - Vampire REX
• eXceed 3rd - Jade Penetrate Black Package
I bought all of those last year, people look at me funny when they observe me playing bullet hell games :(
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: archnemesis on March 17, 2013, 01:51:27 AM
Are they any good?
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Post by: mjemirzian on March 17, 2013, 05:56:57 AM
Quote from: Momo on March 17, 2013, 01:46:12 AM
I bought all of those last year, people look at me funny when they observe me playing bullet hell games :(

They're probably looking at you funny because those games are full of pedobait and moe.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Kim Kardashians Butt on March 17, 2013, 10:57:45 AM
:shh don't mention social awareness to momo :shh
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Post by: Momo on March 17, 2013, 12:16:27 PM
Quote from: archnemesis on March 17, 2013, 01:51:27 AM
Are they any good?
Yeah if you can get used to the pixel width hit zone of bullet hells and 'get' the whole pattern finding thing you'd like it. It runs like shit on Win7 though, escape throws you back to desktop, alt+ tab doesnt work etc.

Quote from: mjemirzian on March 17, 2013, 05:56:57 AM
Quote from: Momo on March 17, 2013, 01:46:12 AM
I bought all of those last year, people look at me funny when they observe me playing bullet hell games :(

They're probably looking at you funny because those games are full of pedobait and moe.
A very likely story

Quote from: Kim Kardashians Butt on March 17, 2013, 10:57:45 AM
:shh don't mention social awareness to momo :shh
:maf
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: archnemesis on March 17, 2013, 01:37:03 PM
I'm on Windows 8 so I guess I'll avoid them for now.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: tiesto on March 17, 2013, 01:49:35 PM
Quote from: D3RANG3D on March 16, 2013, 05:43:39 PM
Quote from: tiesto on March 16, 2013, 05:03:55 PM
I much prefer wacky and silly games... anything super realistic or Lord of the Rings-esque I tend to tune out...

Also, why does everyone think (insert niche Japanese game here) will sell better on PC? Does PC have a history of people who are into Japanese games? As far as I can tell, no. On GAF, the average PC "master race" kid tends to mock anything even remotely Japanese or "console-ish", as they wipe off cheeto-dust on their too-tight Metallica t-shirt. Maybe they'll get some sales in a Steam sale when they are marked down to $5.

Hasn't Derrick01 suffered enough?

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ROFL, Derrick01 once called me out for being a broken record... saying "oh you talk about how much you love Japanese games all the time"...

when the best is - I've probably enjoyed more western games this gen than he did!
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Post by: Cerveza mas fina on March 17, 2013, 03:55:43 PM
Isnt derrick just a borys wannabe?
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: D3RANG3D on March 17, 2013, 04:29:54 PM
Quote from: Premium Lager on March 17, 2013, 03:55:43 PM
Isnt derrick just a borys wannabe?

He's just has the mentality that the every game is shit because it's not the same as the old games,  aka every game has to be like late 90's early 2000's PC gaming or it's shit.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on March 17, 2013, 04:36:51 PM
I saw gaffots are obsessed with him though.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: D3RANG3D on March 17, 2013, 06:31:30 PM
Quote from: Premium Lager on March 17, 2013, 04:36:51 PM
I saw gaffots are obsessed with him though.

It's more of they are laughing at him not with him, but then again it's gaf :wtf2
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Rufus on March 17, 2013, 10:32:30 PM
Nah, some seem to have taken a liking to him. They were humoring him by showing awareness of his notoriety in a thread recently, I forget what it was.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: D3RANG3D on March 17, 2013, 10:34:06 PM
Quote from: Rufus on March 17, 2013, 10:32:30 PM
Nah, some seem to have taken a liking to him. They were humoring him by showing awareness of his notoriety in a thread recently, I forget what it was.

The WRPG's are casual thread? Well I don't laugh with him but laugh at him, and the other notorious PC Gaf twatters.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: originalz on March 17, 2013, 10:48:44 PM
wtf happened to this thread
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: mjemirzian on March 17, 2013, 10:54:52 PM
There are plenty of posters like that on gaming forums that think their opinions are facts and don't understand game design or analysis. Thankfully they seem to be mostly absent from this forum.

What happened to this thread? No new sales data to post I guess.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: D3RANG3D on March 17, 2013, 10:55:05 PM
Quote from: originalz on March 17, 2013, 10:48:44 PM
wtf happened to this thread

How bout dem sales?
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Rufus on March 17, 2013, 11:16:55 PM
Quote from: D3RANG3D on March 17, 2013, 10:34:06 PM
The WRPG's are casual thread? Well I don't laugh with him but laugh at him, and the other notorious PC Gaf twatters.
Yeah, that's the one. Salsa Shark proved that he earned his place on my ignore list.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on March 18, 2013, 02:59:55 AM
Quote from: originalz on March 17, 2013, 10:48:44 PM
wtf happened to this thread
will try to fix


npd numbers(jvm)
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Last year's hardware units: 1.7mm
This year's hardware units: 1.1mm

A decrease of 36%. :(

PSV: down almost 190K
Wii: down almost 130K
Xbox 360: down 125K
PS3: down almost 90K
3DS: down over 70K
NDS: down about 35K

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Post by: archnemesis on March 18, 2013, 03:15:51 AM
I guess we should expect the 360/PS3/Wii to be down when they're on their last year, but it's pretty damning that all the new consoles also are down YoY.
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Post by: maxy on March 18, 2013, 06:27:49 AM
UK charts

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Square Enix take a second week at the top with ‘Tomb Raider’ (-72%) holding off a host of new debutants to remain at No1.

It means Sony have to settle for second spot with Demi God Kratos returning in ‘God of War Ascension’ at No2. Ascension becomes the 6th title in the series but fails to emulate the success of God of War III which took the No1 spot in Week 11 2010 with more than double the sales. It does however become the second biggest Week 1 in the series surpassing the debut week of God of War II which took the No1 back in Week 17 2007.
Activision Blizzard and developer Blizzard Entertainment round off the No3 spot with ‘StarCraft II: Heart of the Swarm’. The PC title shares something in common with current chart topper ‘Tomb Raider’ being another ‘Event’ title with a Tuesday launch. There’s also a debut at No4 as City Interactive return with ‘Sniper: Ghost Warrior 2’. In its first week it doesn’t break the Top 3 however it does top its predecessor which has never climbed higher than No8 in our All Formats chart.

Three new titles in our top 4 means last week’s No2 ‘SimCity’ (-50%) drops to No5 ahead of ‘FIFA 13’ (-14%) at No6. Ubisoft’s ‘Far Cry 3’ (-3%) climbs a spot to No7 above EA’s ‘Crysis 3’ (-42%) which slips to No8. ‘Call of Duty: Black Ops II’ (-14%) drops to No9 while ‘The Sims 3: University Life’ (-57%) which made its debut at No4 last week slides to No10.

http://www.chart-track.co.uk/index.jsp?c=p/software/uk/latest/index_test.jsp&ct=110032

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01 (01) 360 TOMB RAIDER SQUARE ENIX EUROPE)
02 (NE) PS3 GOD OF WAR: ASCENSION (SONY COMPUTER ENT.)
03 (02) PS3 TOMB RAIDER (SQUARE ENIX EUROPE)
04 (NE) PC STARCRAFT II: HEART OF THE SWARM (ACTIVISION BLIZZARD)
05 (03) PC SIMCITY (ELECTRONIC ARTS)
06 (NE) 360 SNIPER: GHOST WARRIOR 2 (CITY INTERACTIVE)
07 (NE) PS3 SNIPER: GHOST WARRIOR 2 (CITY INTERACTIVE)
08 (04) PC THE SIMS 3: UNIVERSITY LIFE (ELECTRONIC ARTS)
09 (09) 360 FIFA 13 (ELECTRONIC ARTS)
10 (11) 360 FAR CRY 3 (UBISOFT)

Not sure if UK is the best market to judge GOW but it seems like Oscar will be right(again) about GOW:A US sales.I don't think you can blame UK market downfall for the decline when Tomb Raider on 360 sold better.

Next week is time for one more prequel,Gears of War:Judgement.Should be fun to watch.

Still no WiiU games but next week has few candidates...Monster Hunter, NFS:MW,Walking Dead
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on March 18, 2013, 08:40:53 AM
Niche genre cough cough
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on March 18, 2013, 09:52:34 AM
How can you call your own mom that Oscar  ???
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Flannel Boy on March 18, 2013, 10:06:09 AM
 :childplease
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Mr. Gundam on March 18, 2013, 02:49:02 PM
Quote from: maxy on March 18, 2013, 06:27:49 AM
Still no WiiU games but next week has few candidates...Monster Hunter, NFS:MW,Walking Dead

Is the interest in this genuine or just WiiU owners desperate for games?
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Steve Youngblood on March 18, 2013, 02:57:30 PM
Quote from: Mr. Gundam on March 18, 2013, 02:49:02 PM
Quote from: maxy on March 18, 2013, 06:27:49 AM
Still no WiiU games but next week has few candidates...Monster Hunter, NFS:MW,Walking Dead

Is the interest in this genuine or just WiiU owners desperate for games?

I don't really know anything, but my assumption is that at least some of the interest is genuine just from people that want to support the notion that the Wii U isn't underpowered. I think Criterion has fostered some good will by getting the message out that this port is actually improved in some ways. Of course, I don't expect that to translate into massive sales or any noticeable bump in terms of hardware, but I can see it doing better than other late ports, though obviously the bar is very low in that regard.
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Post by: maxy on March 18, 2013, 03:01:11 PM
I doubt this port would sell even if it was on something other than WiiU,racing genre is in serious decline.Who knows,maybe there are like 2000 WiiU owners interested in this game.That should should be enough to get into top 40.

Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: archie4208 on March 18, 2013, 03:10:55 PM
http://news.ea.com/press-release/company-news/simcity-sells-more-1-million-launch

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Electronic Arts Inc. (NASDAQ: EA) today announced that SimCity™ recorded more than 1.1 million units sold through in the first two weeks, making this the biggest SimCity launch of all time. Roughly 54 percent of those sales have been of digital versions of the game, downloaded directly to players’ PCs via Origin™ or other digital download services.

Welp
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Kim Kardashians Butt on March 18, 2013, 03:12:43 PM
Idiotas.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Momo on March 18, 2013, 03:19:26 PM
I'd be willing to fill a death note if I had those 1.1 million names
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Great Rumbler on March 18, 2013, 03:21:08 PM
Shouldn't be a surprise, it's a much-hyped entry in a long-running, popular series.

But I bet most of the sales came on the first day or two.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Don Flamenco on March 18, 2013, 03:32:18 PM
the internet overestimates its power again

"what do you mean average joe doesn't care about online only DRM, even after it smacks him directly in the face"
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Steve Youngblood on March 18, 2013, 03:58:44 PM
Personally, I'm part of the contingency that doesn't like always online-DRM, will avoid it (or avoid paying anything close to full price) more often than not, and wish that publishers would stop implementing it. However, in the wake of the Sim City fiasco (and the Diablo 3 one before it), I still find it counterproductive and offputting when gaming enthusiasts ride around on their high horse lamenting that less-informed consumers have screwed them over and are ruining their hobby with their idiocy and laziness.

Yeah, it's not particularly reassuring when something like this happens and you find out that it did gangbusters in terms of sales. But at the same time, I don't think that means that it's time to call people who bought the game dumbasses who are ruining gaming. They spent money in the hopes of being entertained and got burned. The focus of our ire should still be on EA.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Stoney Mason on March 18, 2013, 04:03:02 PM
There is nothing wrong with bitching when your rights are slowly being eroded away.

That being said, its a separate issue from whether said bitching will actually have an impact in the real world or that it extends beyond a niche segment of people on the internet.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Steve Youngblood on March 18, 2013, 04:07:47 PM
Quote from: Stoney Mason on March 18, 2013, 04:03:02 PM
There is nothing wrong with bitching when your rights are slowly being eroded away.

That being said, its a separate issue from whether said bitching will actually have an impact in the real world or that it extends beyond a niche segment of people on the internet.

I'm not arguing against bitching. I just think it needs to be directed at the right people. My casual perusal on launch day had a post from you indicating that you almost pulled the trigger on purchasing the game before you thought better of it. If -- in just a moment of quickly weighing your desire to play a new SimCity versus the game's $50 (or $60) entry fee -- you decided "why not?", I wouldn't lop you into the pile of people who deserve a big "fuck you" for being uninformed. That's all I'm getting at. You would just be an impulsive consumer in search of another outlet of escapism.

But that doesn't mean that those who were against the DRM before release should just keep their mouths shut. We should absolutely continue advocating against this, now with more ammo for why it's an egregious practice.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on March 18, 2013, 04:08:50 PM
BOOM

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REDWOOD CITY, Calif.—(BUSINESS WIRE)— Electronic Arts Inc. (NASDAQ: EA) today announced that John Riccitiello will step down as Chief Executive Officer and as a member of the Board of Directors, effective March 30. The Board has appointed Larry Probst as Executive Chairman to ensure a smooth transition and to lead EA's executive team while the Board conducts a search for a permanent CEO. The Board will consider internal and external candidates with the assistance of a leading executive search firm.

Mr. Probst has played a leadership role at EA since 1991. In addition to serving as Chairman of the Board since 1994, he previously served as the Company's CEO from 1991 to 2007. As CEO, Probst successfully grew the Company's annual revenues from $175 million to approximately $3 billion, led EA into new platforms such as mobile, online and other emerging markets and expanded its international presence to more than 75 countries.

"We thank John for his contributions to EA since he was appointed CEO in 2007, especially the passion, dedication and energy he brought to the Company every single day," said Mr. Probst. "John has worked hard to lead the Company through challenging transitions in our industry, and was instrumental in driving our very significant growth in digital revenues. We appreciate John's leadership and the many important strategic initiatives he has driven for the Company. We have mutually agreed that this is the right time for a leadership transition."

On behalf of the Board, Lead Director Richard A. Simonson stated, "As we begin the CEO search, we are fortunate that Larry, who has a proven track record with our employees, partners and customers, has agreed to assume a day-to-day leadership role as Executive Chairman. He has 16 years of experience as CEO of EA and a deep understanding of the Company's strategy, management team, business potential and industry trends."

Mr. Riccitiello stated, "EA is an outstanding company with creative and talented employees, and it has been an honor to serve as the Company's CEO. I am proud of what we have accomplished together, and after six years I feel it is the right time for me pass the baton and let new leadership take the Company into its next phase of innovation and growth. I remain very optimistic about EA's future - there is a world class team driving the Company's transition to the next generation of game consoles."

I guess somebody could make a new thread
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Stoney Mason on March 18, 2013, 04:12:23 PM
My post wasn't really aimed at your post Steve. Just a general statement. It happens a lot on the internet and forums that people seem shocked that the real world doesn't share their opinion on a lot of issues whether its deserved or not in some cases.

Online DRM doesn't really bother me. The lying from EA bothers me more but that's just a personal peeve thing of mine.

I don't think Online DRM bothers Joe Regular average consumer. He just wants a good game that's fun and worth his time. Which is not to say that EA isn't lying about why they implemented it in SimCity or that they don't practice anti-consumer practices all over the place.

I guess what I'm saying is that I get why people are bitching about Online DRM but for big companies like EA, they don't and won't care. If the bitching has any effect, it has it on smaller devs and publishers that can't necessarily afford to piss of their consumers.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on March 18, 2013, 05:09:13 PM
Does the fact that pc gets most big games and wiiu gets none mean that pc games justify the porting cost at least?
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Steve Contra on March 18, 2013, 07:36:39 PM
Yes, but the fact is the "lead" platform on a lot of games is in fact, the pc.  So port costs are a lot cheaper.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on March 20, 2013, 09:13:03 AM
MC
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3DS LL   47,985
Vita   36,028
3DS   21,454
PS3   20,676
PSP   12,721
Wii U   9,539
Wii   1,323
Xbox 360   543

SS 29,121
 :ehh



Famitsu
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01./00. [PS3] Kingdom Hearts HD 1.5 ReMIX <RPG> (Square Enix) {2013.03.14} (¥6.980) - 131.940 / NEW
02./00. [PSP] Sword Art Online: Infinity Moment # <RPG> (Bandai Namco Games) {2013.03.14} (¥6.280) - 129.222 / NEW
03./00. [3DS] Super Robot Wars UX # <SLG> (Bandai Namco Games) {2013.03.14} (¥7.140) - 120.751 / NEW
04./03. [3DS] Animal Crossing: New Leaf # <ETC> (Nintendo) {2012.11.08} (¥4.800) - 60.736 / 3.217.990 (-12%)
05./02. [PSV] Soul Sacrifice # <ACT> (Sony Computer Entertainment) {2013.03.07} (¥5.980) - 26.561 / 132.424 (-75%)
06./05. [PS3] Dynasty Warriors 8 # <ACT> (Koei Tecmo) {2013.02.28} (¥7.560) - 22.492 / 284.417 (-54%)
07./00. [PS3] God of War: Ascension # <ACT> (Sony Computer Entertainment) {2013.03.14} (¥5.980) - 19.844 / NEW
08./01. [PS3] Hatsune Miku: Project Diva f <ACT> (Sega) {2013.03.07} (¥7.329) - 17.070 / 130.792 (-85%)
09./07. [PS3] Far Cry 3 <ACT> (Ubisoft) {2013.03.07} (¥7.770) - 15.994 / 50.757 (-54%)
10./08. [3DS] Professor Layton and the Legacy of Civilization A <ADV> (Level 5) {2013.02.28} (¥5.500) - 15.588 / 178.820 (-49%)
11./09. [3DS] Dragon Quest VII: Fighters of Eden <RPG> (Square Enix) {2013.02.07} (¥6.090) - 14.678 / 1.169.209 (-36%)
12./00. [PS3] Darkstalkers Resurrection <FTG> (Capcom) {2013.03.14} (¥2.990) - 11.589 / NEW
13./10. [3DS] Dragon Ball Heroes: Ultimate Mission <TBL> (Bandai Namco Games) {2013.02.28} (¥5.800) - 10.937 / 122.453 (-49%)
14./11. [PS3] Metal Gear Rising: Revengeance # <ACT> (Konami) {2013.02.21} (¥6.980) - 8.484 / 420.069 (-54%)
15./13. [3DS] Doraemon: Nobita to Himitsu Dougu Hakubutsukan <ADV> (FuRyu) {2013.03.07} (¥5.229) - 8.349 / 20.311 (-30%)
16./00. [PSP] Frontier Gate: Boost+ <RPG> (Konami) {2013.03.14} (¥3.990) - 7.879 / NEW
17./00. [PS3] Winning Post 7 2013 <SLG> (Koei Tecmo) {2013.03.14} (¥7.560) - 7.645 / NEW
18./06. [PSV] Tales of Hearts R # <RPG> (Bandai Namco Games) {2013.03.07} (¥6.480) - 6.845 / 55.023 (-86%)
19./19. [3DS] New Super Mario Bros. 2 # <ACT> (Nintendo) {2012.07.28} (¥4.800) - 6.449 / 1.977.525 (+0%)
20./04. [PSP] Uta no Prince-Sama: All Star # <ACT> (Broccoli) {2013.03.07} (¥6.090) - 6.328 / 67.989 (-90%)
21./12. [PSV] Senran Kagura Shinovi Versus: Otome Shoujotachi no Shoumei # <ACT> (Marvelous AQL) {2013.02.28} (¥6.980) - 5.938 / 112.600 (-60%)
22./18. [3DS] Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate (Best Price!) # <ACT> (Capcom) {2012.11.15} (¥3.800) - 5.748 / 242.388 (-13%)
23./15. [PS3] Macross 30: Ginga o Tsunagu Utagoe # <RPG> (Bandai Namco Games) {2013.02.28} (¥8.380) - 4.474 / 74.676 (-53%)
24./17. [PSV] Phantasy Star Online 2: Special Package <RPG> (Sega) {2013.02.28} (¥5.229) - 4.461 / 68.253 (-44%)
25./27. [3DS] Mario Kart 7 <RCE> (Nintendo) {2011.12.01} (¥4.800) - 4.215 / 1.990.248 (+10%)
26./00. [PSP] Winning Post 7 2013 <SLG> (Koei Tecmo) {2013.03.14} (¥5.040) - 3.909 / NEW
27./20. [3DS] Touch Detective: Nameko Shigeru <PZL> (Success) {2013.02.28} (¥3.990) - 3.751 / 36.472 (-41%)
28./16. [PSP] Shining Ark <RPG> (Sega) {2013.02.28} (¥6.279) - 3.655 / 77.909 (-59%)
29./00. [360] Darkstalkers Resurrection <FTG> (Capcom) {2013.03.14} (¥2.990) - 3.624 / NEW
30./28. [WIU] New Super Mario Bros. U <ACT> (Nintendo) {2012.12.08} (¥5.985) - 3.528 / 489.971 (-8%)

PSP :superman
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Momo on March 20, 2013, 12:26:47 PM
Depending on how much of a full version it is, I think PSO2 will carry the Vita through this generation much like Monster Hunter did the PSP (but in a lesser way, about 20% of the monster hunter player base in size)
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: MCD on March 20, 2013, 01:33:45 PM
[PSP] Sword Art Online: Infinity Moment # <RPG> (Bandai Namco Games) {2013.03.14} (¥6.280) - 129.222 / NEW

Fuck Japan for supporting this vile of himu's shit.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Don Flamenco on March 20, 2013, 03:28:23 PM
I always thought that was some kind of sword fan site.  now i know
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Purple Filth on March 20, 2013, 07:59:56 PM
Quote from: Momo on March 20, 2013, 12:26:47 PM
Depending on how much of a full version it is, I think PSO2 will carry the Vita through this generation much like Monster Hunter did the PSP (but in a lesser way, about 20% of the monster hunter player base in size)

 :stopit
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Steve Contra on March 20, 2013, 08:02:55 PM
 :lol

Oh my.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: archie4208 on March 20, 2013, 08:48:07 PM
Is the Vita version of PSO2 free to play?

Also, I remember reading an article where the PC version had about 90k peak concurrent users at launch.  That seems kinda crazy, especially for Japan.  It would be like the second largest game on Steam
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: archie4208 on March 20, 2013, 09:54:57 PM
mkay.  I always assumed PC gaming was nonexistent in Japan outside of H-Games.  I stand corrected.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: originalz on March 21, 2013, 12:41:30 AM
I have a friend who's super hardcore into PSO, has followed the series from the beginning and is thinking about getting a Vita to play it on, but he's still not sold yet.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on March 21, 2013, 03:21:21 AM
Stolen from Taco

One Piece: Pirate Warriors 2(PS3/Vita) ships 500k on day 1

http://www.bandainamcogames.co.jp/corporate/press/release/58/pdf/20130321.pdf

Luigi is in next week sales too
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: MCD on March 21, 2013, 03:22:41 AM
Oda is a money machine wherever ho go.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Momo on March 21, 2013, 06:41:39 AM
Quote from: originalz on March 21, 2013, 12:41:30 AM
I have a friend who's super hardcore into PSO, has followed the series from the beginning and is thinking about getting a Vita to play it on, but he's still not sold yet.
Tell him to play it on PC, I'll only be playing the Vita version as an afk thing
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Trent Dole on March 21, 2013, 01:15:25 PM
Quote from: Momo on March 21, 2013, 06:41:39 AM
Quote from: originalz on March 21, 2013, 12:41:30 AM
I have a friend who's super hardcore into PSO, has followed the series from the beginning and is thinking about getting a Vita to play it on, but he's still not sold yet.
Tell him to play it on PC, I'll only be playing the Vita version as an afk thing
Could always play on both since there's crossplay blocks and all.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Momo on March 21, 2013, 02:18:13 PM
I meant I'll be playing both but Vita version only during breaks at work or whatever
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: bork on March 21, 2013, 04:01:17 PM
I would have imported the Vita version (the cart can be played online on U.S. accounts), but then I realized it was pointless since PSO2 doesn't have an offline mode.  I'm only gonna be playing online from home...might as well just play it on PC.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Shaka Khan on March 24, 2013, 12:57:07 AM
How accurate is this chart?

(http://i.imgur.com/YrZzl.jpg)

I thought GoW3 did worse than what it says here.

Edit: Unless "sell in" means shipped to retail and not "sell through."
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Shaka Khan on March 24, 2013, 01:36:02 AM
So GoW3 is indeed the best selling game in the series?
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Shaka Khan on March 24, 2013, 02:03:30 AM
I just find it interesting considering the size of install base for the respective releases. And the spinoffs did surprisingly well. I guess this series is not as overhyped as the Uncharted.

spoiler (click to show/hide)
Poor Ascension, this will only make it look even worse.
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Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Phoenix Dark on March 24, 2013, 02:36:18 AM
Similar to the Nintendo question...say you were put in charge of all Vita operations for the next 12 months. What would you do specifically in the US and Japan to spur sales? Let's assume you can't lower the price any more
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: archnemesis on March 24, 2013, 02:50:27 AM
For the Vita?
• Add PS Mobile compatibility
• Continue to invite indie PC developers. It's easy to port to and some titles even sell well
• Continue to add good PS+ freebies. In Europe we just got Zero Escape: Virtue's Last Reward
• Tamagotchi tie-in with the next big suitable PS4 title
• Try to convince smaller publishers to release translations of niche Japanese games. I'd love to get an English version of Mahjong Fight Club, Romance of the Three Kingdoms 12, and Ciel No Surge
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Shaka Khan on March 24, 2013, 02:58:55 AM
Quote from: archnemesis on March 24, 2013, 02:50:27 AM
• Continue to add good PS+ freebies. In Europe we just got Zero Escape: Virtue's Last Reward

FUCK ME! My ankles are already grabbed.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: archnemesis on March 24, 2013, 03:01:50 AM
You can also still download Uncharted: Golden Abyss and Gravity Rush plus some smaller titles. It's an excellent way of promoting the system.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on March 24, 2013, 03:24:47 AM
Pachter speaks,gaf listens
http://www.gametrailers.com/videos/gk1uwi/pach-attack---the-handheld-market-sucks---he-says-
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On why Microsoft isn't in the handheld market:
The reason is that the handheld market sucks, and to the extend there is a handheld market and Nintendo owns it.

About PS Vita:
The Vita is a joke. It's a wonderful, wonderful, wonderful piece of hardware and nobody owns one. The reason nobody owns one is It's too good, It does too much. Developers aren't making games for it because the market is to small.

More about Vita:
You're not going to get a big install base with the Vita at this price, and even though It's a really slick device, if there is not a lot of people who own it, you're not going to get a lot of sotfware. And It's a vicious cycle, if you don't have software, you're not going to buy the Vita. If you don't have Vitas, you're not going to get software. So, the Vita sucks, Sony has no prayer of making money on the Vita.

About the handheld market:
The handheld market is not as big as It used to be. With the 3DS I think Nintendo is probably going to continue to do ok, 15 million a year, that's a nice market for handhelds. With the Vita on the market, they (Sony) are going to make 5 million a year, why do we need a third (handheld)? All that would happend is that demand of 20 million handhelds will get split three ways instead of two. Nobody makes money selling five millions units a year.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Rufus on March 24, 2013, 04:04:25 AM
I find it hard not to disparage the man and the work I assume he's doing.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on March 24, 2013, 05:23:02 AM
To answer PD question(US),I don't think people would care about Vita even if Sony lowered game prices to $0.There is just no market for this thing.

Japan--some weird niche,squeeze as much money from them as possible,99.9% games never leave Japan
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: AdmiralViscen on March 24, 2013, 09:04:03 AM
Does PS+ actually make money for Sony? I wonder what the opportunity cost is for having your customers not buy shit and just wait for it to be free later on.

I would imagine they also have to pay third parties in some way for giving away their shit for free.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on March 24, 2013, 09:11:05 AM
I'm willing to bet they make more on one $15 a month payment than they do everytime they sell 1 game.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: archnemesis on March 24, 2013, 09:15:57 AM
If people really want to play something they'll get it near launch. By the time games hit PS+ they're not bringing in much money from the retailers anymore. They probably make money from both the PS+ subscription fee plus some extra money from additionally sold DLC. Sure, some might hold off on buying games in hope that they'll someday make it to PS+, but I'm guessing that's a small part of the total market.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Fifstar on March 24, 2013, 10:32:51 AM
Sony and third party publishers probably have hard time making money on the crowd that will mainly buy games below 20$ due to used games. Playstation+ makes them some money out of those people.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on March 25, 2013, 06:11:04 AM
UK time

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The fourth instalment in the Gears of War series is a prequel and as such cannot match the launch week sales of its hugely popular predecessor which sold 4 times more in its first week. Sales of ‘Tomb Raider’ drop by 44%, but it still manages to stay ahead of another ‘survival’ themed title, Activision Blizzard’s ‘The Walking Dead: Survival Instinct’, a new entry at No3.
A survivor of another kind is ‘FIFA 13’ (+32%), 26 weeks never outside the Top 6 and up 2 places this week to No4. In their second weeks of release ‘Sniper: Ghost Warrior 2’ (-37%) and ‘God of War: Ascension’ (-61%) both fall one place and four places respectively to No’s 5 and 6. ‘Monster Hunter 3: Ultimate Edition’ debuts at No7 with the 3DS version accounting for 55% of sales and Wii U the rest. The Wii U title accounts for almost 50% of the value generated by all Wii U software this week. ‘SimCity’ (-33%) drops from No5 to No8, ahead of previous All Formats No1s ‘Far Cry 3’ (+18%) at No9 and ‘Call of Duty: Black Ops II’ (+27%) at No10.

Price promotions give a boost to ‘Metal Gear Rising: Revengeance’ (+114%), up from No19 to No11 and ‘Aliens: Colonial Marines’ (+71%) up from No21 to No16.

http://www.chart-track.co.uk/index.jsp?c=p/software/uk/latest/index_test.jsp&ct=110032

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01 (NE) 360 GEARS OF WAR: JUDGMENT (MICROSOFT)
02 (01) 360 TOMB RAIDER (SQUARE ENIX EUROPE)
03 (NE) 360 THE WALKING DEAD: SURVIVAL INSTINCT (ACTIVISION BLIZZARD)
04 (03) PS3 TOMB RAIDER (SQUARE ENIX EUROPE)
05 (02) PS3 GOD OF WAR: ASCENSION (SONY COMPUTER ENT.)
06 (05) PC SIMCITY (ELECTRONIC ARTS)
07 (NE) PS3 THE WALKING DEAD: SURVIVAL INSTINCT (ACTIVISION BLIZZARD)
08 (06) 360 SNIPER: GHOST WARRIOR 2 (CITY INTERACTIVE)
09 (09) 360 FIFA 13 (ELECTRONIC ARTS)
10 (NE) 3DS MONSTER HUNTER 3 ULTIMATE (CAPCOM)
11 (07) PS3 SNIPER: GHOST WARRIOR 2 (CITY INTERACTIVE)
12 (NE) WIU MONSTER HUNTER 3 ULTIMATE (CAPCOM)
13 (12) PS3 FIFA 13 (ELECTRONIC ARTS)
14 (13) 360 CALL OF DUTY: BLACK OPS II (ACTIVISION BLIZZARD)
15 (10) 360 FAR CRY 3 (UBISOFT)
16 (28) PS3 METAL GEAR RISING: REVENGEANCE (KONAMI)
17 (11) 360 CRYSIS 3 (ELECTRONIC ARTS)
18 (14) 360 FORZA HORIZON (MICROSOFT)
19 (18) 360 HALO 4 (MICROSOFT)
20 (17) PS3 FAR CRY 3 (UBISOFT)
21 (16) PS3 CALL OF DUTY: BLACK OPS II (ACTIVISION BLIZZARD)
22 (21) 360 ASSASSIN'S CREED III (UBISOFT)
23 (04) PC STARCRAFT II: HEART OF THE SWARM (ACTIVISION BLIZZARD)
24 (08) PC THE SIMS 3: UNIVERSITY LIFE (ELECTRONIC ARTS)
25 (15) 360 THE ELDER SCROLLS V: SKYRIM (BETHESDA SOFTWORKS)
26 (38) 360 ALIENS: COLONIAL MARINES (SEGA)
27 (34) PS3 ASSASSIN'S CREED III (UBISOFT)
28 (__) 360 METAL GEAR RISING: REVENGEANCE (KONAMI)
29 (22) WII JUST DANCE 4 (UBISOFT)
30 (30) PC FOOTBALL MANAGER 2013 (SEGA)
31 (20) 360 HITMAN ABSOLUTION (SQUARE ENIX EUROPE)
32 (19) PS3    CRYSIS 3 (ELECTRONIC ARTS)
33 (26) 360 NEED FOR SPEED MOST WANTED (ELECTRONIC ARTS)
34 (37) WII SKYLANDERS GIANTS (ACTIVISION BLIZZARD)
35 (24) 360 GRAND THEFT AUTO IV (TAKE 2)
36 (__) WIU NINTENDO LAND (NINTENDO)
37 (__) WII ABBA: YOU CAN DANCE (UBISOFT)
38 (27) 360 GRAND THEFT AUTO EPISODES - LIBERTY CITY (TAKE 2)
39 (__) 360 DEAD ISLAND GOTY EDITION (KOCH MEDIA)
40 (23) 360 DEAD SPACE 3 (ELECTRONIC ARTS)

Massive decline for Gears,Gears 3 almost outsold 1 and 2 combined(chart-track,launch week)

Two WiiU titles in top 40,MH and NL  :omg

MH,WiiU system seller?

NL is bundled with premiums btw
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on March 25, 2013, 07:54:44 AM
Tough times for non-Bob incoming.



Japan stuff

Originally Posted by Chris1964: 
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first day sellthrough

Luigi's Mansion - high (500k shipment)
One Piece - (Vita version 50-60%) / (PS3 version Treasure Box decent)
Disgaea - 60% (Limited Edition)
My Rainbow Wedding - low
Pro Baseball Spirits - (60-70% PS3 version) / (PS3>PSP>PSV)
Atelier - low
Dead or Alive - low
Castlevania - 30%
Need for Speed - dead
Gears of War - good
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: DCharlieJP on March 25, 2013, 06:03:17 PM
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Pro Baseball Spirits - (60-70% PS3 version) / (PS3>PSP>PSV)

The PSV shipment on this must be tragically low as it's sold out everywhere.

Also PSP PBS 2013 is selling at 3280 yen NEW from launch. So against a 6480 yen Vita version (and a huge installed userbase advantage) then no surprises in the ranking.

I'm buying the PS3 version today -  the Vita game is soooooooooo amazing. With an extra presentation layer i don't know what i'd do to my pants.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Mr. Gundam on March 25, 2013, 07:14:23 PM
Quote from: DCharlieJP on March 25, 2013, 06:03:17 PM
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Pro Baseball Spirits - (60-70% PS3 version) / (PS3>PSP>PSV)
I'm buying the PS3 version today -  the Vita game is soooooooooo amazing. With an extra presentation layer i don't know what i'd do to my pants.

I'm psyched for it, but will probably wait until it drops in price in the Fall. I was thinking about getting 2012 for cheap now that 2013 is out.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on March 27, 2013, 09:09:34 AM
MC
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Vita   41,073
3DS LL   40,924
3DS   35,629
PS3   22,942
PSP   12,690
Wii U   11,398
Wii   1,720
Xbox 360   610

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Media Create Sales: Week 12, 2013 (Mar 18 - Mar 24)

01./00. [3DS] Luigi's Mansion: Dark Moon <ACT> (Nintendo) {2013.03.20} (¥4.800) - 280.151 / NEW
02./00. [PS3] One Piece: Pirate Warriors 2 # <ACT> (Bandai Namco Games) {2013.03.20} (¥8.190) - 274.625 / NEW
03./00. [PS3] Pro Baseball Spirits 2013 <SPT> (Konami) {2013.03.20} (¥7.980) - 101.389 / NEW
04./00. [PSP] Pro Baseball Spirits 2013 <SPT> (Konami) {2013.03.20} (¥3.980) - 80.618 / NEW
05./00. [PSV] One Piece: Pirate Warriors 2 # <ACT> (Bandai Namco Games) {2013.03.20} (¥7.140) - 60.315 / NEW
06./04. [3DS] Animal Crossing: New Leaf # <ETC> (Nintendo) {2012.11.08} (¥4.800) - 56.876 / 2.918.394 (-3%)
07./00. [PS3] Disgaea D2 # <SLG> (Nippon Ichi Software) {2013.03.20} (¥7.140) - 55.443 / NEW
08./00. [3DS] Pretty Rhythm: My Deco Rainbow Wedding <ACT> (Takara Tomy) {2013.03.20} (¥6.279) - 33.466 / NEW
09./02. [PS3] Kingdom Hearts HD 1.5 ReMIX <RPG> (Square Enix) {2013.03.14} (¥6.980) - 29.401 / 157.815 (-77%)
10./00. [PSV] Atelier Meruru Plus: The Alchemist of Arland 3 # <RPG> (Gust) {2013.03.20} (¥6.090) - 25.095 / NEW
11./00. [PSV] Pro Baseball Spirits 2013 <SPT> (Konami) {2013.03.20} (¥7.980) - 23.621 / NEW
12./00. [360] Gears of War: Judgment # <ACT> (Microsoft Game Studios) {2013.03.21} (¥7.140) - 23.345 / NEW
13./03. [3DS] Super Robot Wars UX # <SLG> (Bandai Namco Games) {2013.03.14} (¥7.140) - 18.818 / 134.202 (-84%)
14./01. [PSP] Sword Art Online: Infinity Moment # <RPG> (Bandai Namco Games) {2013.03.14} (¥6.280) - 18.002 / 156.182 (-87%)
15./05. [PSV] Soul Sacrifice # <ACT> (Sony Computer Entertainment) {2013.03.07} (¥5.980) - 15.488 / 137.006 (-47%)
16./00. [3DS] Castlevania: Lords of Shadow - Mirror of Fate <ACT> (Konami) {2013.03.20} (¥4.980) - 14.138 / NEW
17./00. [PSV] Dead or Alive 5+ # <FTG> (Koei Tecmo) {2013.03.20} (¥6.090) - 13.291 / NEW
18./07. [PS3] Dynasty Warriors 8 # <ACT> (Koei Tecmo) {2013.02.28} (¥7.560) - 11.523 / 283.734 (-48%)
19./06. [PS3] Hatsune Miku: Project Diva f <ACT> (Sega) {2013.03.07} (¥7.329) - 11.482 / 147.959 (-56%)
20./14. [3DS] New Super Mario Bros. 2 # <ACT> (Nintendo) {2012.07.28} (¥4.800) - 10.497 / 1.970.061 (+20%)
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on March 27, 2013, 09:13:58 AM
how is vita still doin good so
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on March 27, 2013, 10:03:48 AM
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Minecraft: Xbox 360 Edition has now sold over SIX MILLION copies !!!
https://twitter.com/4JStudios/status/316638746315476992

It sells and sells...
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Beezy on March 27, 2013, 11:03:00 AM
Goddamn. Gonna get a disc copy once it drops so I can play it with my nephew. I'm still not really sure what this game is about.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Joe Molotov on March 27, 2013, 01:47:41 PM
Quote from: Beezy on March 27, 2013, 11:03:00 AM
Goddamn. Gonna get a disc copy once it drops so I can play it with my nephew. I'm still not really sure what this game is about.

Legos
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on April 02, 2013, 05:43:23 AM
UK time,lots of holiday bumps(WiiU,3DS,Vita excluded)

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‘Bioshock Infinite’ debuts at the top of our All Formats chart this week with the Tuesday release becoming the second biggest launch of the year.

In taking top spot it also sets a record as the biggest week 1 for a Bioshock title with almost nine thousand more sales than predecessor ‘Bioshock 2’ which took the No1 back in Week 6 2010. Despite its success it’s unable to become 2013’s biggest release with Square Enix’s ‘Tomb Raider’ (+45%) in No2 still holding the honour following its release in Week 10. ‘Tomb Raider also sees a strong boost in sales this week with price promotions ensuring it easily holds second place ahead of several other new releases.

It means ‘Gears of War: Judgment’ (-63%) slips to No3 above EA’s ‘FIFA 13’ (+86%) which benefits from strong sales to retain the No4 spot. There’s a debut at No5 for developer Next Level Games and ‘Luigi’s Mansion 2’ landing on 3DS. It’s the second ghost hunting outing for Mario’s little brother following on from ‘Luigi’s Mansion’ which landed at No3 on Nintendo’s Game Cube back in Week 18 2002. The first of two new entries for EA in our Top 10 sees ‘Army of Two: The Devil’s Cartel’ land at No6 with just over a hundred sales separating it from ‘Call of Duty: Black Ops II’ (+67%) in No7. At No8 ‘Tiger Woods PGA Tour 14’ is the second of EA’s new releases and along with ‘Crysis 3’ (+64%) at No10 it means they have four titles in our Top 10 this week.

Elsewhere in the chart Wii U exclusive and developer Traveller’s Tales new title ‘Lego City Undercover’ lands at No12. There’s also the return of Sly Cooper with developer Sanzaru Games bringing the light fingered raccoon back for his 4th outing in ‘Sly Cooper: Thieves In Time’ at No31 for PS3 and Vita.

BKK posted this
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Bioshock 2 - 121k (90%)
Bioshock Infinite - 130k (90%)


http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/gamesblog/2013/apr/02/games-xbox
Missing 3% from LEs (UKIE only give top 4 SKU %), so these should be slightly higher.

Bioshock Infinite;
X360 (64%) ~83k
PS3 (28%) ~36k
PC (5%) ~6.5k
90% is the Chart-Track coverage

INDIVIDUAL FORMATS
http://www.chart-track.co.uk/index.jsp?c=p/software/uk/latest/index_test.jsp&ct=110032

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Week 13, 2013 - Individual Formats (Units)

01 (NE) 360    BIOSHOCK INFINITE (TAKE 2)
02 (NE) PS3 BIOSHOCK INFINITE (TAKE 2) ~36k
03 (01) 360 GEARS OF WAR: JUDGMENT (MICROSOFT)
04 (02) 360 TOMB RAIDER (SQUARE ENIX EUROPE)
05 (NE) 3DS LUIGI'S MANSION 2 (NINTENDO)
06 (04) PS3 TOMB RAIDER (SQUARE ENIX EUROPE)
07 (09) 360 FIFA 13 (ELECTRONIC ARTS)
08 (NE) WIU LEGO CITY UNDERCOVER (NINTENDO)
09 (NE) PC BIOSHOCK INFINITE (TAKE 2)~6.5k
10 (NE) 360 ARMY OF TWO: THE DEVIL'S CARTEL (ELECTRONIC ARTS)
11 (06) PC SIMCITY (ELECTRONIC ARTS)
12 (13) PS3 FIFA 13 (ELECTRONIC ARTS)
13 (19) 360 HALO 4 (MICROSOFT)
14 (14) 360 CALL OF DUTY: BLACK OPS II (ACTIVISION BLIZZARD)
15 (NE) 360 TIGER WOODS PGA TOUR 14 (ELECTRONIC ARTS)
16 (05) PS3 GOD OF WAR: ASCENSION (SONY COMPUTER ENT.)
17 (22) 360 ASSASSIN'S CREED III (UBISOFT)
18 (17) 360 CRYSIS 3 (ELECTRONIC ARTS)
19 (15) 360 FAR CRY 3 (UBISOFT)
20 (21) PS3 CALL OF DUTY: BLACK OPS II (ACTIVISION BLIZZARD)
21 (NE) PS3 TIGER WOODS PGA TOUR 14 (ELECTRONIC ARTS)
22 (27) PS3 ASSASSIN'S CREED III (UBISOFT)
23 (08) 360 SNIPER: GHOST WARRIOR 2 (CITY INTERACTIVE)
24 (29) WII JUST DANCE 4 (UBISOFT)
25 (NE) PS3 ARMY OF TWO: THE DEVIL'S CARTEL (ELECTRONIC ARTS)
26 (03) 360 THE WALKING DEAD: SURVIVAL INSTINCT (ACTIVISION BLIZZARD)
27 (20) PS3 FAR CRY 3 (UBISOFT)
28 (07) PS3 THE WALKING DEAD: SURVIVAL INSTINCT (ACTIVISION BLIZZARD)
29 (32) PS3 CRYSIS 3 (ELECTRONIC ARTS)
30 (18) 360 FORZA HORIZON (MICROSOFT)
31 (34) WII SKYLANDERS GIANTS (ACTIVISION BLIZZARD)
32 (11) PS3 SNIPER: GHOST WARRIOR 2 (CITY INTERACTIVE)
33 (33) 360 NEED FOR SPEED MOST WANTED (ELECTRONIC ARTS)
34 (NE) PS3 SLY COOPER: THIEVES IN TIME (SONY COMPUTER ENT.)
35 (25) 360 THE ELDER SCROLLS V: SKYRIM (BETHESDA SOFTWORKS)
36 (26) 360 ALIENS: COLONIAL MARINES (SEGA)
37 (__) PS3 NEED FOR SPEED MOST WANTED (ELECTRONIC ARTS)
38 (__) 360 DISHONORED (BETHESDA SOFTWORKS)
39 (24) PC THE SIMS 3: UNIVERSITY LIFE (ELECTRONIC ARTS)
40 (31) 360 HITMAN ABSOLUTION (SQUARE ENIX EUROPE)
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on April 03, 2013, 09:25:10 AM
MC
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3DS LL   38,442
Vita   31,795
3DS   28,538
Wii U   22,829
PS3   19,069
PSP   12,594
Wii   1,858
Xbox 360   598

Media Create Sales: Week 13, 2013 (Mar 25 - Mar 31)

01./01. [3DS] Luigi's Mansion: Dark Moon <ACT> (Nintendo) {2013.03.20} (¥4.800) - 110.840 / 390.991 (-60%)
02./00. [PSP] Fate/Extra CCC # <RPG> (Marvelous AQL) {2013.03.28} (¥6.279) - 72.883 / NEW
03./06. [3DS] Animal Crossing: New Leaf # <ETC> (Nintendo) {2012.11.08} (¥4.800) - 57.835 / 2.976.228 (+2%)
04./02. [PS3] One Piece: Pirate Warriors 2 # <ACT> (Bandai Namco Games) {2013.03.20} (¥8.190) - 56.457 / 331.082 (-79%)
05./00. [PSV] Muramasa: The Demon Blade <RPG> (Marvelous AQL) {2013.03.28} (¥4.980) - 45.660 / NEW
06./00. [WIU] Dragon Quest X: Mezameshi Itsutsu no Shuzoku Online # <RPG> (Square Enix) {2013.03.30} (¥6.980) - 33.302 / NEW
07./00. [PSP] Dungeon Travelers 2: Ouritsu Tokoshan to Mamono no Fuuin # <RPG> (Aqua Plus) {2013.03.28} (¥6.090) - 31.738 / NEW
08./03. [PS3] Pro Baseball Spirits 2013 <SPT> (Konami) {2013.03.20} (¥7.980) - 24.864 / 126.254 (-75%)
09./04. [PSP] Pro Baseball Spirits 2013 <SPT> (Konami) {2013.03.20} (¥3.980) - 23.135 / 103.753 (-71%)
10./00. [WIU] Game & Wario <ETC> (Nintendo) {2013.03.28} (¥4.935) - 22.491 / NEW
11./05. [PSV] One Piece: Pirate Warriors 2 <ACT> (Bandai Namco Games) {2013.03.20} (¥7.140) - 17.180 / 77.495 (-72%)
12./00. [PSV] Sei Madou Monogatari # <RPG> (Compile Heart) {2013.03.28} (¥7.140) - 16.050 / NEW
13./09. [PS3] Kingdom Hearts HD 1.5 ReMIX <RPG> (Square Enix) {2013.03.14} (¥6.980) - 15.560 / 173.375 (-47%)
14./00. [WII] PreCure All-Stars: Zenin Shuugou Let's Dance! <ACT> (Bandai Namco Games) {2013.03.28} (¥6.090) - 15.373 / NEW
15./14. [PSP] Sword Art Online: Infinity Moment # <RPG> (Bandai Namco Games) {2013.03.14} (¥6.280) - 13.215 / 169.397 (-27%)
16./15. [PSV] Soul Sacrifice # <ACT> (Sony Computer Entertainment) {2013.03.07} (¥5.980) - 11.577 / 148.583 (-25%)
17./20. [3DS] New Super Mario Bros. 2 # <ACT> (Nintendo) {2012.07.28} (¥4.800) - 10.328 / 1.980.388 (-2%)
18./13. [3DS] Super Robot Wars UX # <SLG> (Bandai Namco Games) {2013.03.14} (¥7.140) - 10.011 / 144.212 (-47%)
19./23. [3DS] Dragon Ball Heroes: Ultimate Mission <TBL> (Bandai Namco Games) {2013.02.28} (¥5.800) - 9.414 / 140.208 (+3%)
20./00. [PSP] Katen no Hana # <ADV> (Koei Tecmo) {2013.03.28} (¥6.090) - 8.644 / NEW
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Great Rumbler on April 03, 2013, 09:47:55 AM
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06./00. [WIU] Dragon Quest X: Mezameshi Itsutsu no Shuzoku Online # <RPG> (Square Enix) {2013.03.30} (¥6.980) - 33.302 / NEW

lol
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Don Flamenco on April 03, 2013, 10:40:19 AM
Quote from: Phoenix Dark on March 24, 2013, 02:36:18 AM
Similar to the Nintendo question...say you were put in charge of all Vita operations for the next 12 months. What would you do specifically in the US and Japan to spur sales? Let's assume you can't lower the price any more


More games and ads, money hats all around, hire a fleet of viral marketers to take over reddit/gaf that's bigger than all the other fleets of viral marketers that other companies have placed.   Price cut on mem cards.  No "value" bundles. 

and make Reggie and Iwata "disappear."  Not that that would help sales, that's just for trolling purposes.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: magus on April 03, 2013, 10:43:16 AM
Quote from: Great Rumbler on April 03, 2013, 09:47:55 AM
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06./00. [WIU] Dragon Quest X: Mezameshi Itsutsu no Shuzoku Online # <RPG> (Square Enix) {2013.03.30} (¥6.980) - 33.302 / NEW

lol

a vanillaware game selling more than dragon quest
i'm.... i'm so happy :'(
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on April 03, 2013, 10:48:51 AM
Wait for

Dragon Quest
Bayonetta 2
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: DCharlieJP on April 03, 2013, 11:22:00 AM
Again, tried to warn people who were spouting "it's got Mohan and DQX!" over and over that they weren't the megatons people were thinking they were
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Purple Filth on April 03, 2013, 11:25:01 AM
Quote from: DCharlieJP on April 03, 2013, 11:22:00 AM
Again, tried to warn people who were spouting "it's got Mohan and DQX!" over and over that they weren't the megatons people were thinking they were

 :lol

The Hero we deserve etc
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: DCharlieJP on April 03, 2013, 11:33:26 AM
But to throw some healthy shame on myself - I bought both (well, I upgraded my DqX - I suspect that's where a lot of the "sales" are because it was 3480yen online if you already had the Wii version rather than 6800 new on WiiU)

...  Game is 720p as well. Oops.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on April 03, 2013, 11:36:19 AM
Note to Square,make non online mainline DQ games.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: DCharlieJP on April 03, 2013, 11:42:11 AM
Quote from: maxy on April 03, 2013, 11:36:19 AM
Note to Square,make non online mainline DQ games.

Oh I'm sure they'll be shafting out Dqxi for the 3DS any time soon
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Mr. Gundam on April 03, 2013, 11:58:10 AM
The level of cognitive dissonance in the Media Create thread this morning is staggering. Whatever helps you sleep at night, boys.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: mjemirzian on April 03, 2013, 11:59:50 AM
What do you expect? Sales figures bring out the worst sort of fanboys and obsessives.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Positive Touch on April 03, 2013, 12:00:42 PM
Quote from: maxy on April 03, 2013, 11:36:19 AM
Note to Square,make non online mainline DQ games.

1.retool dqx as a single-player only game
2.rerelase it as a special edition with additional content/stupid preoder toys
3.get money
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Mr. Gundam on April 03, 2013, 12:03:03 PM
Quote from: mjemirzian on April 03, 2013, 11:59:50 AM
What do you expect? Sales figures bring out the worst sort of fanboys and obsessives.

Totally what I expected, but it's still a fascinating psychological trainwreck.

Learn from the past or history will repeat itself. How soon they forget.
Title: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Shaka Khan on April 03, 2013, 01:13:10 PM
Quote from: DCharlieJP on April 03, 2013, 11:33:26 AM
But to throw some healthy shame on myself - I bought both (well, I upgraded my DqX - I suspect that's where a lot of the "sales" are because it was 3480yen online if you already had the Wii version rather than 6800 new on WiiU)

...  Game is 720p as well. Oops.

Are you at least getting more stable frames? Have textures been uprezzed?
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Joe Molotov on April 03, 2013, 02:13:23 PM
Quote from: Positive Touch on April 03, 2013, 12:00:42 PM
Quote from: maxy on April 03, 2013, 11:36:19 AM
Note to Square,make non online mainline DQ games.

1.retool dqx as a single-player only game
2.rerelase it as a special edition with additional content/stupid preoder toys
3.get money

2a. release it on a real console
Title: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Shaka Khan on April 03, 2013, 02:17:17 PM
@Oscar: I'm also impressed with how the Vita is holding its own, too bad they done fucked up and have nothing of worth releasing soon to sustain this surge. ANYTHING at this point might benefit it. Uguu, moe, F2P, shovelware... Anything!
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: DCharlieJP on April 03, 2013, 04:26:24 PM
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Are you at least getting more stable frames? Have textures been uprezzed?

Bwaaaaaahahahahahahhaahahaaaaaa.... "Preeze understando"
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Shaka Khan on April 03, 2013, 04:39:22 PM
Fucking Iwata. :maf
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: DCharlieJP on April 03, 2013, 08:52:32 PM
Re: Vita - they can plug the gap to some extent with some interesting demos and the rash of budget re-release of titles, but what would really help is throwing out a few -significant- announcements.

I was about to type "but , you know, Sony..." but recently they've been making all the right noises. I guess Kaz's diamond studed +60xD20 Damage to stupidity with Productivity bonus effect is getting some much needed cracking.

Iwata and Nintendo - i mean, lets come back in 12-18 months time when the Wii U is 19,800 yen and has Mario Kart, Mario Party and whatever else first parties all starting to drop. Price and first party are Nintendo's long term weaponry, so they're still going to hit 25m+ units worst case. That's way down on the Wii , but i'm sure that they've got more than enough wiggle on that price.

The dream of Wii style sales figures and massive 3rd party support and "base build for cross platform" is well and truly over though.


Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Damian79 on April 03, 2013, 09:04:42 PM
Quote from: DCharlieJP on April 03, 2013, 04:26:24 PM
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Are you at least getting more stable frames? Have textures been uprezzed?

Bwaaaaaahahahahahahhaahahaaaaaa.... "Preeze understando"

Wait not even stable frame rates?  WTF.  Bad Nintendo Bad.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: DCharlieJP on April 03, 2013, 09:10:24 PM
Quote from: Damian79 on April 03, 2013, 09:04:42 PM
Quote from: DCharlieJP on April 03, 2013, 04:26:24 PM
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Are you at least getting more stable frames? Have textures been uprezzed?

Bwaaaaaahahahahahahhaahahaaaaaa.... "Preeze understando"

Wait not even stable frame rates?  WTF.  Bad Nintendo Bad.

it is maybe a little less choppy than the Wii version but it's all over the place. It looks a lot cleaner but , yeah, this game is NOT a looker.

Also - a general arms in the air wave at the sky in anger.... this game is fully playable on the gamepad but you have to boot up and switch on the TV - it puts up a slime saying "oh, you can't do anything yet, look at the tv" style warning. So you have to login, get to the game, go to a menu, go to a submenu, then switch to Gamepad.

I thought the whole point was we'd be able to free up a TV? Having to have the TV on in the first place to boot up and start games seems somewhat daft when the game is clearly able to run 100% from the pad.

Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Shaka Khan on April 03, 2013, 09:32:41 PM
Where have you been gauging responses/interest? Because the internet has been full of blowhards who're skewing my impression.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Shaka Khan on April 03, 2013, 09:40:11 PM
Who can forget the 6 Wii U speculation threads.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Purple Filth on April 03, 2013, 10:05:15 PM
Quote from: Shaka Khan on April 03, 2013, 09:40:11 PM
Who can forget the 6 Wii U speculation threads.

And those Spec threads  :lol
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Joe Molotov on April 03, 2013, 10:08:45 PM
Quote from: Purple Filth on April 03, 2013, 10:05:15 PM
Quote from: Shaka Khan on April 03, 2013, 09:40:11 PM
Who can forget the 6 Wii U speculation threads.

And those Spec threads  :lol

And the thread where they were going to get together $200 just to have some people take a picture of the GPU.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: hampster on April 03, 2013, 10:15:47 PM
Quote from: Shaka Khan on April 03, 2013, 09:32:41 PM
Where have you been gauging responses/interest? Because the internet has been full of blowhards who're skewing my impression.

According to the bombcast the developers at GDC and PAX seem pretty happy with the PS4. I'd rather hear about them being happy over the typical forum goer.

Of course its hard to tell if they are genuinely happy with sony's direction or just pissed at Microsoft, Greenlight or whatever else
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Damian79 on April 03, 2013, 10:18:17 PM
Found this on OA.  PS4 to cost 300 pounds apparently.

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PS4 will release in October and cost £300, according to a newspaper interview with Sony gaming CEO Andrew House.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Trent Dole on April 03, 2013, 10:25:27 PM
What is that in real money? :P
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Damian79 on April 03, 2013, 10:27:25 PM
$454 USD.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Trent Dole on April 03, 2013, 10:28:50 PM
So that'd translate to about $450 US. That's kind of high but not terrible. I know better than to ever get any machine at launch at this point.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Eel O'Brian on April 03, 2013, 10:56:24 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on April 03, 2013, 09:36:23 PM
Just reading the general media response and stuff.  Enthusiast press and non-enthusiast press.  Sony's usually pretty good at whipping up hype, but the PS4 seems to have passed with all the power of a puff human interest piece.

They didn't show it. I know they don't have a finalized design, and they had to save something for E3, but even if it were just a concept render they probably ought to have released some sort of press pic. All they had was the controller.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Huff on April 03, 2013, 11:09:40 PM
Quote from: Damian79 on April 03, 2013, 10:18:17 PM
Found this on OA.  PS4 to cost 300 pounds apparently.

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PS4 will release in October and cost £300, according to a newspaper interview with Sony gaming CEO Andrew House.

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PS4 will release in October and cost £300, according to a newspaper interview with Sony gaming CEO Andrew House.

The CEO of Sony Computer Entertainment spoke to British tabloid newspaper The Sun, in a business section article that states Sony's upcoming next-gen PlayStation 4 console will launch in October for £300.

House said that the console will attempt to appeal to female gamers more and that 'it's not all about shooting games'.

He told the paper: "We’re not going down the route of making the console pink of course…

“I think the key is to have people – and increasingly women – with different sensibilities creating different games. It is not all about shoot em up games.”

This may turn out to be untrue, but given that the information comes from an article which is an interview with SCE's head honcho via a national newspaper, it does lend the source some credibility.

But it is interesting to note that House is never directly quoted on the price/release date information, so this may be The Sun's own interpretation.

 
http://www.nowgamer.com/news/1873749/ps4_october_release_will_cost_300_sony_ceo_interview.html

has to be fake
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: DCharlieJP on April 04, 2013, 12:13:10 AM
The Sun - translation : we just made this up.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: cool breeze on April 04, 2013, 01:09:28 AM
"Please be excited" sums up the PS4 so far, I think.

People are more excited than the last three hardware launches, but you get that nervous uncertainty vibe.  People feel like they should be excited, because it's a new gen finally, but nothing about it stands out as particularity exciting or different.  Lotta 1) catching up with other technologies and 2) improvements for content producers.  As an observer the improvements weren't contextualized well.  Like, 360, PS3, and Wii were immediately exciting and showed a discernible difference in several area. 

Best part of the unveiling was when Sony slipped in the name and it took a minute for people to notice there was a 4 there.  Same font.  Same logo.  No 'box' to see.  No fanfare at the event. People wanted the lights to go down, Kaz Hirai lowered on to the stage holding a massive black box that says "THE PLAYSTATION." That, and the games shown were dull.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on April 04, 2013, 06:33:48 AM
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Have Sony been making all the right noises?  The response to the PS4 announcement was surprisingly lukewarm, as near as I can tell.


hmm
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Expect a big announcement from Sony about its next-gen PlayStation 4 console this month or possibly in early May, a source familiar with the company's marketing strategy told PCMag this week.
...
GDC was probably the last big stage for the company to talk up the successor to the PlayStation 3 before the E3 gaming conference in June, unless Sony manufactures its own event. That's precisely what Sony plans to do, according to the source, who said late April/early May will be the likeliest timeframe for a full-blown launch of the PS4.
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2417397,00.asp


Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: mjemirzian on April 04, 2013, 09:43:16 AM
If I weren't able to afford a nice gaming PC, I'd definitely be excited about next gen. As it stands, I'll pick up a PS4 whenever it has a few console exclusive games I want to play on it.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on April 04, 2013, 10:00:50 AM
I expect some pretty nasty surprises for PC fans from both Sony and MS.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on April 04, 2013, 10:15:33 AM
They did the same thing with the Vita; had a small thing showing it off first with only first party games then they had the big launch event at E3 I think it was
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on April 04, 2013, 10:34:05 AM
Quote from: MyNameIsMethodis on April 04, 2013, 10:15:33 AM
They did the same thing with the Vita; had a small thing showing it off first with first party game and third party logos then they had the big launch event at E3 I think it was

Fixed.

Maybe they have army of PS4 Indie games to show?
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Don Flamenco on April 04, 2013, 10:55:55 AM
The announcement only seems to be working in their favor.  They get a few months of word-of-mouth and press "analysis" and the Rango announcement apparently got pushed back.   

 :gddr5
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: mjemirzian on April 04, 2013, 11:08:57 AM
Quote from: maxy on April 04, 2013, 10:00:50 AM
I expect some pretty nasty surprises for PC fans from both Sony and MS.
Do you mean you expect to see a greater amount of console exclusive games? It might be nasty for PC fanboys who refuse to buy a dirty peasant console.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on April 08, 2013, 12:50:02 PM
UK time

http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/gamesblog/2013/apr/08/top-20-video-games

credit goes to BKK
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[360] Bioshock - 63% (~20k)
[PS3] Bioshock - 31% (~10k)
[PC] Bioshock - 5% (~1.6k)

[360] FIFA - 50% (<10k)
[PS3] FIFA - 28% (<5.7k)
[WII] FIFA - 6% (<1.2k)
[PSV] FIFA - 6% (<1.2k)

[360] Defiance - 76% (<20K)
[PS3] Defiance - 18% (<4.9K)
[PC] Defiance - 6% (<1.6K)

01 (01) 360 BIOSHOCK INFINITE (TAKE 2) - ~20k
02 (NE) 360 DEFIANCE (TRION WORLDS)
03 (04) 360 TOMB RAIDER (SQUARE ENIX EUROPE)
04 (06) PS3 TOMB RAIDER (SQUARE ENIX EUROPE)
05 (05) 3DS LUIGI'S MANSION 2 (NINTENDO)
06 (02) PS3 BIOSHOCK INFINITE (TAKE 2) - ~10k
07 (07) 360 FIFA 13 (ELECTRONIC ARTS)
08 (03) 360 GEARS OF WAR: JUDGMENT (MICROSOFT)
09 (12) PS3 FIFA 13 (ELECTRONIC ARTS) - <5.7k
10 (13) 360 HALO 4 (MICROSOFT)
11 (14) 360 CALL OF DUTY: BLACK OPS II (ACTIVISION BLIZZARD)
12 (11) PC SIMCITY (ELECTRONIC ARTS)
13 (22) PS3 ASSASSIN'S CREED III (UBISOFT)
14 (NE) PS3 DEFIANCE (TRION WORLDS) - <4.9K
15 (20) PS3 CALL OF DUTY: BLACK OPS II (ACTIVISION BLIZZARD)
16 (17) 360 ASSASSIN'S CREED III (UBISOFT)
17 (24) WII JUST DANCE 4 (UBISOFT)
18 (18) 360 CRYSIS 3 (ELECTRONIC ARTS)
19 (19) 360 FAR CRY 3 (UBISOFT)
20 (16) PS3 GOD OF WAR: ASCENSION (SONY COMPUTER ENT.)
21 (__) PC THE SIMS 3 (ELECTRONIC ARTS)
22 (33) 360 NEED FOR SPEED MOST WANTED (ELECTRONIC ARTS)
23 (31) WII SKYLANDERS GIANTS (ACTIVISION BLIZZARD
24 (10) 360 ARMY OF TWO: THE DEVIL'S CARTEL (ELECTRONIC ARTS)
25 (08) WIU LEGO CITY UNDERCOVER (NINTENDO)
26 (39) PC THE SIMS 3: UNIVERSITY LIFE (ELECTRONIC ARTS)
27 (15) 360 TIGER WOODS PGA TOUR 14 (ELECTRONIC ARTS)
28 (37) PS3 NEED FOR SPEED MOST WANTED (ELECTRONIC ARTS)
29 (23) 360 SNIPER: GHOST WARRIOR 2 (CITY INTERACTIVE)
30 (__) 360 GRAND THEFT AUTO IV (TAKE 2)
31 (29) PS3 CRYSIS 3 (ELECTRONIC ARTS)
32 (__) 360 GRAND THEFT AUTO EPISODES - LIBERTY CITY (TAKE 2)
33 (__) PC FOOTBALL MANAGER 2013 (SEGA)
34 (27) PS3 FAR CRY 3 (UBISOFT)
35 (35) 360 THE ELDER SCROLLS V: SKYRIM (BETHESDA SOFTWORKS)
36 (__) 360 LEGO BATMAN 2: DC SUPER HEROES (WARNER BROS. INTERACTIVE)
37 (40) 360 HITMAN ABSOLUTION (SQUARE ENIX EUROPE)
38 (21) PS3 TIGER WOODS PGA TOUR 14 (ELECTRONIC ARTS)
39 (30) 360 FORZA HORIZON (MICROSOFT)
40 (__) 360 BATTLEFIELD 3 (ELECTRONIC ARTS)

** (09) PC BIOSHOCK INFINITE (TAKE 2) - ~1.6k
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on April 10, 2013, 09:08:04 AM
MC
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3DS LL    34,180
3DS    22,684
Vita    19,328
PS3    16,807
Wii U    14,783
PSP     8,876
Wii     1,718
360       536

Media Create Sales: Week 14, 2013 (Apr 01 - Apr 07)

01./01. [3DS] Luigi's Mansion: Dark Moon <ACT> (Nintendo) {2013.03.20} (¥4.800) - 68.423 / 459.413 (-38%)
02./03. [3DS] Animal Crossing: New Leaf # <ETC> (Nintendo) {2012.11.08} (¥4.800) - 49.140 / 3.025.368 (-15%)
03./04. [PS3] One Piece: Pirate Warriors 2 # <ACT> (Bandai Namco Games) {2013.03.20} (¥8.190) - 26.878 / 357.959 (-52%)
04./08. [PS3] Pro Baseball Spirits 2013 <SPT> (Konami) {2013.03.20} (¥7.980) - 15.411 / 141.665 (-38%)
05./09. [PSP] Pro Baseball Spirits 2013 <SPT> (Konami) {2013.03.20} (¥3.980) - 14.086 / 117.839 (-39%)
06./19. [3DS] Dragon Ball Heroes: Ultimate Mission <TBL> (Bandai Namco Games) {2013.02.28} (¥5.800) - 11.674 / 151.881 (+24%)
07./38. [WII] Taiko no Tatsujin Wii: Super Deluxe Edition # <ACT> (Bandai Namco Games) {2012.11.29} (¥5.040) - 11.533 / 442.322
08./05. [PSV] Muramasa Rebirth <RPG> (Marvelous AQL) {2013.03.28} (¥4.980) - 11.135 / 56.795 (-76%)
09./02. [PSP] Fate/Extra CCC # <RPG> (Marvelous AQL) {2013.03.28} (¥6.279) - 11.128 / 84.011 (-85%)
10./10. [WIU] Game & Wario <ETC> (Nintendo) {2013.03.28} (¥4.935) - 11.064 / 33.555 (-51%)
11./15. [PSP] Sword Art Online: Infinity Moment # <RPG> (Bandai Namco Games) {2013.03.14} (¥6.280) - 10.611 / 180.009 (-20%)
12./06. [WIU] Dragon Quest X: Rise of the Five Tribes Online # <RPG> (Square Enix) {2013.03.30} (¥6.980) - 9.900 / 43.202 (-70%)
13./13. [PS3] Kingdom Hearts HD 1.5 ReMIX <RPG> (Square Enix) {2013.03.14} (¥6.980) - 9.801 / 183.176 (-37%)
14./17. [3DS] New Super Mario Bros. 2 # <ACT> (Nintendo) {2012.07.28} (¥4.800) - 9.669 / 1.990.057 (-6%)
15./00. [PS3] Ninja Gaiden 3: Razor's Edge <ACT> (Koei Tecmo) {2013.04.04} (¥7.140) - 9.659 / NEW
16./11. [PSV] One Piece: Pirate Warriors 2 <ACT> (Bandai Namco Games) {2013.03.20} (¥7.140) - 8.085 / 85.579 (-53%)
17./07. [PSP] Dungeon Travelers 2: Ouritsu Tokoshan to Mamono no Fuuin # <RPG> (Aqua Plus) {2013.03.28} (¥6.090) - 7.566 / 39.305 (-76%)
18./16. [PSV] Soul Sacrifice # <ACT> (Sony Computer Entertainment) {2013.03.07} (¥5.980) - 7.032 / 155.614 (-39%)
19./27. [3DS] Mario Kart 7 <RCE> (Nintendo) {2011.12.01} (¥4.800) - 6.923 / 2.020.351
20./26. [3DS] Professor Layton and the Legacy of Civilization A <ADV> (Level 5) {2013.02.28} (¥5.500) - 6.389 / 199.246


Ninthings
 :rejoice

3DS has passed 11 million LTD(Japan).
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on April 10, 2013, 09:34:11 AM
It's simply amazing how much software Nintendo sells.There is some talk about Vita shortages,true or false?
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Don Flamenco on April 10, 2013, 10:16:25 AM
Quote from: maxy on April 10, 2013, 09:34:11 AM
Vita shortages


 :dead2
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Joe Molotov on April 10, 2013, 02:09:28 PM
Quote from: Don Flamenco on April 10, 2013, 10:16:25 AM
Quote from: maxy on April 10, 2013, 09:34:11 AM
Vita shortages


 :dead2

Of demand, amirite?!?!  :miyamoto :miyamoto :miyamoto :miyamoto
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: DCharlieJP on April 10, 2013, 10:15:37 PM
yeah, joking aside - the was no visible shortage of non-fruity coloured Vitas in aki and shinjuku a few days ago but all units sold out in the 3 local stores near mine.

If you want a vita and you are prepared to look then they are out there.

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04./08. [PS3] Pro Baseball Spirits 2013 <SPT> (Konami) {2013.03.20} (¥7.980) - 15.411 / 141.665 (-38%)
05./09. [PSP] Pro Baseball Spirits 2013 <SPT> (Konami) {2013.03.20} (¥3.980) - 14.086 / 117.839 (-39%)

the Vita version is so spectacularly good that it hurts that it's nowhere near these two in sames. That said ... PSP version at 3980 and vita version at 6980 yen is likely destroying it even if it does shit all over the PSP version.

Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Don Flamenco on April 11, 2013, 12:25:02 AM
why do they always add "spirits" to sports titles

and why were there any sell outs at all?   Something else came out?
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Don Flamenco on April 11, 2013, 10:10:44 AM
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Darkstalkers Resurrection isn’t doing as well as he’d hoped, Capcom USA’s senior VP, Christian Svensson, shares on the company forums.

 

In a forum thread on Capcom Unity, one of the site’s users points out that Darkstalkers Resurrection was among the top-selling games on PlayStation Network games during the month of March (the game ranked #7 on the PSN charts). Unfortunately, Svensson says, it’s not as high on the chart as it needs to be in order to be considered successful.

 

“Sadly, it’s not as high on that list as it really needs to be to be successful,” Svensson wrote in his candid response.

 

“We’re working on promotions and the like to improve the situation. We’ve not given up. But I’m disappointed in the opening sales response relative to any other fighting title we’ve put out on the same platforms given the frequency and urgency of requests we’ve had here over the last several years and the quality of the execution. It is the most fully featured and probably best project of this type we’ve done.”

 

Svensson adds: “And before people jump to the wrong conclusions, I’m not blaming fans who did buy it and supported the brand. I’m very thankful for those guys (thank you, to all of you). I’m more disappointed by my misread of the information in this particular case.”

 

Last week, Svensson also hinted that Capcom would probably slow down on re-releasing their older fighting games for current platforms in light of waning sales. At the time, he explained: “It seems the novelty of such projects is wearing off even within just the fighting game community based upon the sales data of our last two launches.”
Read more at http://www.siliconera.com/2013/04/10/capcom-usa-senior-vp-disappointed-by-darkstalkers-resurrection-sales/#M5PwXuR4yRTWoZBP.99



omg it didn't sell as much as the echo chamber on my company's fan message board told me it would

this guy is either dumb or trying to keep the "fans have input" illusion going, as if Capcom Japan doesn't call the shots.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Joe Molotov on April 11, 2013, 11:52:20 AM
They really thought Darkstalkers was a ticket to the gravy train? LOL,why?
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on April 11, 2013, 11:57:32 AM
http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2013-04-10-no-room-for-b-games-says-ubisoft-montreal-head

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Yannis Mallat on next-gen trends, rising development costs, and managing a team of more than 2,700 people

If you're expecting the next generation of consoles to change everything, you may be a bit disappointed. Speaking with GamesIndustry International at the Game Developers Conference last month, Ubisoft Montreal CEO Yannis Mallat said he expects a continuation of market trends that have emerged in recent years.

"On one end of the spectrum you will have all the big, AAA blockbuster games that [offer] more and more production values, more value for the players, but there will be fewer of them taking a bigger chunk of the market," Mallat said.

On the other end of the spectrum, the developer said mobile initiatives, tablets, and Facebook will continue to bring in new customers to the gaming industry. The problem is with what falls in the middle of the spectrum.

"The in-between, the belly of the market, is the one that just collapsed in a way and disappeared," Mallat said. "Meaning there is no room for B-games, if I should say so, which proves the point of quality. I think that companies that put quality and consumer value as a primary focus, as we've been doing at Ubisoft, will enjoy great success."

That's not to say the new consoles will have no impact; Mallat said the arrival of a new generation of consoles will bring with it new perspectives and innovations, giving the recently struggling packaged goods market some much-needed traction. It also means rising development costs, but Mallat said he's actually found those "very manageable" of late.

"It's a question of bringing quality content to the gamers and enjoying great success thanks to that," Mallat explained. "So it's OK to invest more when you get more in return."

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He noted Ubisoft's strong performance last year, saying the company is investing a lot in new technology, but still managing costs the right way. He added that the way the publisher uses larger development teams and cross-studio collaboration has also resulted in productivity jumps.

As the head of both Ubisoft Montreal and Ubisoft Toronto, Mallat understands a bit about the logistics of managing those larger teams. The Montreal studio has roughly 2,400 developers, with another 300 or so in Toronto. When asked how he manages that many people, Mallat chalked it up to lean management and a bottom-up approach that empowers the creative talent.

"That's my recipe for AAA games," Mallat said. "You gather as much talent as possible, and you give them three things: Trust, means, and insane challenges. Usually they come back with pretty good stuff."

As for how big the studio can conceivably get before the current structure starts to break down, Mallat brushed the questions aside, saying, "I was asking myself the same question years ago when we were 1,400. Then I stopped asking myself that question, and we're still here and we're fine. I think it's working."

AAAA  :bow2
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Don Flamenco on April 11, 2013, 12:23:02 PM
Quote from: Joe Molotov on April 11, 2013, 11:52:20 AM
They really thought Darkstalkers was a ticket to the gravy train? LOL,why?


Because there were so many people that personally requested it from capcom on their message boards, whom are representative of the U.S. according to the Svennson School of Economics.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Fifstar on April 11, 2013, 01:22:27 PM
So apparently Dark Souls sold 300 000 units on pc. Nice sales for something that seems to have been an afterthought at best.

http://www.shacknews.com/article/78672/dark-souls-pc-was-half-assed-but-dark-souls-2
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Great Rumbler on April 11, 2013, 01:32:10 PM
Quote from: Fifstar on April 11, 2013, 01:22:27 PM
So apparently Dark Souls sold 300 000 units on pc. Nice sales for something that seems to have been an afterthought at best.

http://www.shacknews.com/article/78672/dark-souls-pc-was-half-assed-but-dark-souls-2

Not bad at all.

They weren't even going to do a PC port at first, but enough people showed interest [maybe there was a petition?] that they decided to go ahead and do it despite having no knowledge of how to handle a PC port.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Fifstar on April 11, 2013, 01:40:28 PM
Yeah, just checked wikipedia and there was a petition that was signed by 92 000 people. Nice too see that a huge turnout at a petition actually converted into good sales, hopefully some other japanese publishers are paying attention.

Also for the lulz I just looked up VGChartz pc numbers for Dark Souls and they had it at 10 000 as of march this year  :lol
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Raban on April 11, 2013, 02:33:01 PM
300k? Victory achieved.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Don Flamenco on April 11, 2013, 02:39:32 PM
Nice.  had a great 90 hours with it and one of these days I'll do new game+  with the 60fps patch. 
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on April 11, 2013, 02:43:45 PM
300k for such a late port seems really good.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on April 11, 2013, 03:00:07 PM
(http://www.abload.de/img/c_l1365732815_11umso0.jpg)

MCD,please report.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Raban on April 11, 2013, 03:57:17 PM
2.3m!? Is that correct? Holy shit, no wonder Namco jumped on a sequel. Here's hoping they crack 3 next time.
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on April 11, 2013, 04:06:10 PM
360 DS2 in Japan?

 :mindblown
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: mjemirzian on April 11, 2013, 04:37:59 PM
Please please let them make a decent PC version of DS2 this time.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Raban on April 11, 2013, 05:05:07 PM
::)
Did you even play the first game?
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Fifstar on April 11, 2013, 05:05:40 PM
The latest demo was already running on a pc.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Great Rumbler on April 11, 2013, 05:13:57 PM
Quote from: Fifstar on April 11, 2013, 05:05:40 PM
The latest demo was already running on a pc.

And the patch that fixes most of the first game's problems takes literally five minutes to download and set up.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: mjemirzian on April 11, 2013, 06:50:07 PM
Quote from: Raban on April 11, 2013, 05:05:07 PM
::)
Did you even play the first game?
I didn't play Demons Souls, played through some of Dark Souls. And this has what to do with the PC version being a sub-par port? I'm sorry, is there a problem that I don't like how Dark Souls plays? ::)
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Smooth Groove on April 11, 2013, 06:52:43 PM
How many of those 300,000K were at $30 or more though?  It was already selling for $15 about two months after release. 
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Great Rumbler on April 11, 2013, 06:53:26 PM
Quote from: Smooth Groove on April 11, 2013, 06:52:43 PM
How many of those 300,000K were at $30 or more though?  It was already selling for $15 about two months after release. 

Wasn't it released at $40?
Title: Re: Oscar-sama's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Don Flamenco on April 11, 2013, 06:58:03 PM
Quote from: maxy on April 11, 2013, 04:06:10 PM
360 DS2 in Japan?

 :mindblown

hubris  :lol
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Raban on April 11, 2013, 07:18:19 PM
Quote from: mjemirzian on April 11, 2013, 06:50:07 PM
Quote from: Raban on April 11, 2013, 05:05:07 PM
::)
Did you even play the first game?
I didn't play Demons Souls, played through some of Dark Souls. And this has what to do with the PC version being a sub-par port? I'm sorry, is there a problem that I don't like Dark Souls? ::)

Not at all, I just found it humorous that you might be complaining about a port you didn't play. The PC version was practically identical to the console versions and I never had an issue during the 100 hours I logged without DSfix. I don't expect everyone to feel that way, but it was definitely "decent".
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: mjemirzian on April 11, 2013, 07:34:49 PM
I was just really hoping they let you change the resolution, up the framerate to 60, and have real mouse camera controls in DS2. I like the DS atmosphere, it's got some very cool environments. I'll give DS2's combat a fair shake.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Smooth Groove on April 11, 2013, 07:36:23 PM
Not sure about mouse camera but it look me 5 mins at most to figure out how to unlock framerate and change resolution
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Great Rumbler on April 11, 2013, 07:54:38 PM
DSFix was available DAY 1 and fixed just about every single problem with the port.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Raban on April 11, 2013, 08:37:41 PM
Quote from: mjemirzian on April 11, 2013, 07:34:49 PM
I was just really hoping they let you change the resolution, up the framerate to 60, and have real mouse camera controls in DS2. I like the DS atmosphere, it's got some very cool environments. I'll give DS2's combat a fair shake.

I'll grant that the m+kb controls probably suck ass, but the game was designed around a controller input. I don't play PC ports of console games any other way these days.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: cool breeze on April 11, 2013, 08:59:48 PM
Proper m+kb and dual analog controls would be nice in Dark Souls.  About the only "major" change I'd want to the combat.  Lock-on is too finicky, even if there's a logic to the range and such.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: MCD on April 11, 2013, 10:08:14 PM
Quote from: maxy on April 11, 2013, 03:00:07 PM
(http://www.abload.de/img/c_l1365732815_11umso0.jpg)

MCD,please report.
I don't play DS lol.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Raban on April 11, 2013, 11:03:45 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on April 11, 2013, 09:41:29 PM
not really sales related, but dark souls' success-related.  there's a dark souls cafe/restaurant opening up in tokyo later this year.  nice to see the guys at from getting some appreciation worldwide after

Holy shit, that sounds rad. And seriously, the guys at From must've been praising the sun when they got that sales info in.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on April 12, 2013, 02:56:14 AM
Quote from: Smooth Groove on April 11, 2013, 06:52:43 PM
How many of those 300,000K were at $30 or more though?  It was already selling for $15 about two months after release.

Its still 30.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Don Flamenco on April 12, 2013, 10:07:19 AM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on April 11, 2013, 09:41:29 PM
not really sales related, but dark souls' success-related.  there's a dark souls cafe/restaurant opening up in tokyo later this year.  nice to see the guys at from getting some appreciation worldwide after years of flying under the radar.

hopefully they can work on a vanity project like Metal Wolf Chaos HD + MWC2
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Phoenix Dark on April 12, 2013, 02:34:51 PM
Is today npd day?
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: archnemesis on April 12, 2013, 02:38:19 PM
Quote from: Phoenix Dark on April 12, 2013, 02:34:51 PM
Is today npd day?
No, it's April 18 at 4 PM EDT.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Human Snorenado on April 12, 2013, 03:28:29 PM
Wonder how weeeeeooooooooo did for March
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Phoenix Dark on April 12, 2013, 04:47:46 PM
80k
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Don Flamenco on April 12, 2013, 05:05:21 PM
add 10k boost for Monster Hunter.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on April 12, 2013, 05:48:58 PM
75,000
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Himu on April 12, 2013, 05:59:53 PM
I remember some guy arguing with my gaf alt on gaf about FROM should make a demons souls 2 exclusive to ps4. I said that makes no sense as Dark Souls sold way better than Demons and was available on all HD platforms including PC. But nope that didn't convince him. ::)
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Huff on April 12, 2013, 09:18:32 PM
cool story
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Flannel Boy on April 13, 2013, 12:56:07 AM
Quote from: The Experiment on April 12, 2013, 05:48:58 PM
75,000
77,777
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on April 17, 2013, 09:05:30 AM
MC
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3DS LL   28,139
3DS   18,584
Vita   14,112
PS3   14,039
Wii U   9,984
PSP   7,566
Wii   1,383
Xbox 360   492

Media Create Sales: Week 15, 2013 (Apr 08 - Apr 14)

01./01. [3DS] Luigi's Mansion: Dark Moon <ACT> (Nintendo) {2013.03.20} (¥4.800) - 56.562 / 515.975 (-17%)
02./00. [3DS] Card Fight!! Vanguard: Ride to Victory!! <TBL> (FuRyu) {2013.04.11} (¥5.229) - 44.538 / NEW
03./02. [3DS] Animal Crossing: New Leaf # <ETC> (Nintendo) {2012.11.08} (¥4.800) - 36.709 / 3.062.077 (-25%)
04./03. [PS3] One Piece: Pirate Warriors 2 # <ACT> (Bandai Namco Games) {2013.03.20} (¥8.190) - 12.799 / 370.758 (-52%)
05./04. [PS3] Pro Baseball Spirits 2013 <SPT> (Konami) {2013.03.20} (¥7.980) - 8.059 / 149.725 (-48%)
06./07. [WII] Taiko no Tatsujin Wii: Super Deluxe Edition # <ACT> (Bandai Namco Games) {2012.11.29} (¥5.040) - 6.983 / 449.305 (-39%)
07./08. [PSV] Muramasa Rebirth <RPG> (Marvelous AQL) {2013.03.28} (¥4.980) - 6.492 / 63.287 (-42%)
08./05. [PSP] Pro Baseball Spirits 2013 <SPT> (Konami) {2013.03.20} (¥3.980) - 6.487 / 124.326 (-54%)
09./14. [3DS] New Super Mario Bros. 2 # <ACT> (Nintendo) {2012.07.28} (¥4.800) - 6.473 / 1.996.530 (-33%)
10./11. [PSP] Sword Art Online: Infinity Moment # <RPG> (Bandai Namco Games) {2013.03.14} (¥6.280) - 6.435 / 186.444 (-39%)
11./13. [PS3] Kingdom Hearts HD 1.5 ReMIX <RPG> (Square Enix) {2013.03.14} (¥6.980) - 5.993 / 189.169 (-39%)
12./18. [PSV] Soul Sacrifice # <ACT> (Sony Computer Entertainment) {2013.03.07} (¥5.980) - 5.049 / 160.663 (-28%)
13./12. [WIU] Dragon Quest X: Rise of the Five Tribes Online # <RPG> (Square Enix) {2013.03.30} (¥6.980) - 4.969 / 48.171 (-50%)
14./09. [PSP] Fate/Extra CCC # <RPG> (Marvelous AQL) {2013.03.28} (¥6.279) - 4.878 / 88.889 (-56%)
15./19. [3DS] Mario Kart 7 <RCE> (Nintendo) {2011.12.01} (¥4.800) - 4.775 / 2.025.127 (-31%)
16./21. [3DS] Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate (Best Price!) <ACT> (Capcom) {2012.11.15} (¥3.800) - 4.768 / 284.824
17./10. [WIU] Game & Wario <ETC> (Nintendo) {2013.03.28} (¥4.935) - 4.719 / 38.274 (-57%)
18./00. [PSV] One Piece: Pirate Warriors 2 # <ACT> (Bandai Namco Games) {2013.03.20} (¥7.140) - 4.620 / 90.199
19./20. [3DS] Professor Layton and the Legacy of Civilization A <ADV> (Level 5) {2013.02.28} (¥5.500) - 4.356 / 203.602 (-32%)
20./22. [3DS] Taiko no Tatsujin: Chibi Dragon to Fushigi na Orb <ACT> (Bandai Namco Games) {2012.07.12} (¥5.040) - 4.110 / 466.189

Luigi  :bow2
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Great Rumbler on April 17, 2013, 09:44:35 AM
Vita is dead again, I guess.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Don Flamenco on April 17, 2013, 10:25:44 AM
but at least it's not as dead as the WiiU.  We can say that now yayyyyyyyy
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Shaka Khan on April 17, 2013, 07:24:36 PM
Haha, Vita is like that bastard child still clinging to hope, after his mom left him at the train station promising to be right back. Abandonment, such a sad sight to behold.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Don Flamenco on April 17, 2013, 07:32:39 PM
BACK OFF XBOTS
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: originalz on April 18, 2013, 04:45:43 AM
Reggie said some shit:

-Digital sales count for 11% of total first-party software sales on 3DS

-"Over a third" (>80k) of all Fire Emblem Awakening sales have been digital; "over half" of all players have purchased at least one item of DLC

-20% of purchases of Star Fox 64 3D/Ocarina of Time 3D in 2013 have been digital

-Art Academy/Brain Age 3DS have "15-25%" digital penetration
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Joe Molotov on April 18, 2013, 10:10:38 AM
Digital penetration :teehee
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Don Flamenco on April 18, 2013, 11:28:08 AM
Capcom getting punished for the past couple years of douchery:

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=54396153&postcount=1

games canceled, forecasts cut, and remorse for outsourcing

its for the best


now whens marvel
spoiler (click to show/hide)
getting patched
[close]


i can say with all my weeaboo heart that i'm very happy DmC failed. 


edit:
bonus nintendo-related post
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=54398091&postcount=35

don't blame ninty!  :'(
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Don Flamenco on April 18, 2013, 01:32:39 PM
and just like that, Capcom's fortunes reverse with Monster Hunter Online, co-dev'd with Tencent:

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=54379722&postcount=1

now they're just gonna have to find vaults big enough for all the yen
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Joe Molotov on April 18, 2013, 01:50:31 PM
Wii U gets uprezzed 3DS Monster Hunter and real consoles get Crysis 3: Monster Hunter Edition.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on April 18, 2013, 02:32:48 PM
Is npd tonight?
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on April 18, 2013, 02:38:13 PM
Yep.
M$ quarterly report too

/dead
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Purple Filth on April 18, 2013, 02:47:43 PM
Quote from: Don Flamenco on April 18, 2013, 01:32:39 PM
and just like that, Capcom's fortunes reverse with Monster Hunter Online, co-dev'd with Tencent:

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=54379722&postcount=1

now they're just gonna have to find vaults big enough for all the yen

DCHARLIE POST IN HERE NOW.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: archie4208 on April 18, 2013, 02:53:21 PM
Quote from: Don Flamenco on April 18, 2013, 01:32:39 PM
and just like that, Capcom's fortunes reverse with Monster Hunter Online, co-dev'd with Tencent:

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=54379722&postcount=1

now they're just gonna have to find vaults big enough for all the yen

It's probably China exclusive.

But hey, at least Tencent is now collaborating with pubs now instead of just stealing assets and pretending it's their own.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on April 18, 2013, 04:35:48 PM
http://www.engadget.com/2013/04/18/microsoft-posts-q3-2013-earnings/
(http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2012/01/microsoft-ballmer-ces2534.jpg)

Quote
The Entertainment and Devices Division posted revenue of $2.53 billion, an increase of 56% from the prior year period. Adjusting for the recognition of revenue related to the Video Game Deferral, the division's non-GAAP revenue increased 33% for the third quarter. Xbox LIVE now has over 46 million members worldwide, an 18% increase from the prior year period.

(http://abload.de/img/fy13_2laa66.png)

1.3 million 360s shipped this quarter.
http://www.microsoft.com/Investor/EarningsAndFinancials/Earnings/SegmentResults/EntertainmentAndDevicesDivision/FY13/Q3/performance.aspx
Quote
Continued leadership position in console market
1.3M consoles sold, down 9%
Xbox LIVE members >46 million, up 18%
Transactional revenue grew double the rate of member growth
Windows Phone momentum
161 billion minutes of calls on Skype in quarter, up 56%
EDD revenue increased, primarily due to higher Xbox 360 platform and Windows Phone revenue. Xbox 360 platform revenue increased $641 million or 55%, primarily due to the recognition of $380 million of revenue related to the Video Game Deferral and higher Xbox LIVE revenue. Windows Phone revenue increased $259 million, including patent licensing revenue and increased sales of Windows Phone licenses.

EDD operating income increased, primarily due to revenue growth, offset in part by higher cost of revenue and research and development expenses. Cost of revenue increased $275 million or 23%, due mainly to increased royalties on Xbox LIVE content and video games. Research and development expenses increased $113 million or 28%, primarily reflecting higher headcount-related expenses.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Joe Molotov on April 18, 2013, 04:53:46 PM
Haters owned. (http://i.imgur.com/6Lbncfc.png)

spoiler (click to show/hide)
I'm assuming that haters have been owned, but tl;dr
[close]
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on April 18, 2013, 04:56:41 PM
Microsoft will be crying next gen anyways hwo cares.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Don Flamenco on April 18, 2013, 04:57:43 PM
but EVERYBODY is mad at them for always online!  You saw the hate EVERYWHERE on the internet!  How did this not affect their bottom line?  :derp
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on April 18, 2013, 05:00:49 PM
btw,last year 360 shipment was 1.4 million
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on April 18, 2013, 05:16:25 PM
Ms shooting for sub 45 million durangos with always online.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Great Rumbler on April 18, 2013, 05:22:35 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/YixpUdR.png)
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Rufus on April 18, 2013, 05:50:27 PM
Fucking hell Ballmer is such a hideous orangutan of a man.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Human Snorenado on April 18, 2013, 06:01:36 PM
No wonder they're fine with always online for next gen...
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Don Flamenco on April 18, 2013, 06:20:00 PM
(http://d3j5vwomefv46c.cloudfront.net/photos/large/601330461.jpg)
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Pringo on April 18, 2013, 06:41:52 PM
NPD's out.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=542856

Quote
Overall Industry:

The overall retail industry is down 10% year over year.


Software:

NPD Group's U.S. Games Industry Sales (New Physical Sales Channel*) - March 2013
5-week month; Reporting Period 3/3/13 through 4/6/13

Software   
1. Bioshock Infinite (360, PS3, PC)** Take 2 Interactive
2. Tomb Raider 2013 (360, PS3)** Square Enix Inc
3. Gears of War: Judgement (360) Microsoft
4. God of War: Ascension (PS3)** Sony
5. Call of Duty: Black Ops II (360, PS3, PC, NWU)** Activision Blizzard
6. Luigi's Mansion: Dark Moon (3DS) Nintendo - 365K (415K with digital)
7. MLB 13: The Show (PS3, PSV) Sony
8. NBA 2K13 (360, PS3, WII, NWU, PSP, PC)** Take 2 Interactive
9. The Walking Dead: Survival Instinct (360, PS3, NWU) Activision Blizzard
10. Naruto Shippuden: Ultimate Ninja Storm 3 (360, PS3) Namco Bandai Games

**(includes CE, GOTY editions, bundles, etc. but not those bundled with hardware)

XX. Pokemon Mystery Dungeon: Gates To Infinity - 145K retail + digital
XX. Fire Emblem - 64K retail + digital


Hardware:

Xbox 360: 261K (-29.6%)
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on April 18, 2013, 06:49:34 PM

Did people really expect Lego to chart when it came out on the 18th?! Or Monster Hunter which was released on the 19th?! Really?
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on April 18, 2013, 06:52:32 PM
Wii U™ owners have a ton of great games to look forward to from Nintendo and its third-party partners, including Game & Wario™ on June 23, Pikmin™ 3 on Aug. 4, Disney's Planes from Disney Interactive on Aug. 6 and Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell® Blacklist™ from Ubisoft® on Aug. 20. At the upcoming E3 trade show in June in Los Angeles, Nintendo expects to show attendees upcoming Wii U games from the Mario Kart™, Super Mario Bros.™ and Super Smash Bros.™ franchises.

THERE IS LITERALLY NO WIIU GAMES FOR TWO MONTHS
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Human Snorenado on April 18, 2013, 06:55:05 PM
Where are the weeeooooooooo system numbers???
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: cool breeze on April 18, 2013, 07:14:44 PM
gears beat god of war in the battle of why

good for luigi mansion, tho.  at least I'm assuming it's good.  it's doing well in Japan, too.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Shaka Khan on April 18, 2013, 07:22:48 PM
I've only heard good things about it. I'm getting it as soon as I'm done with my finals.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: FoneBone on April 18, 2013, 07:35:52 PM
Quote from: MyNameIsMethodis on April 18, 2013, 06:52:32 PM
Wii U™ owners have a ton of great games to look forward to from Nintendo and its third-party partners, including Game & Wario™ on June 23, Pikmin™ 3 on Aug. 4, Disney's Planes from Disney Interactive on Aug. 6 and Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell® Blacklist™ from Ubisoft® on Aug. 20. At the upcoming E3 trade show in June in Los Angeles, Nintendo expects to show attendees upcoming Wii U games from the Mario Kart™, Super Mario Bros.™ and Super Smash Bros.™ franchises.

THERE IS LITERALLY NO WIIU GAMES FOR TWO MONTHS
They skipped Activision's Fast & Furious tie-in game for next month. The system is saved!
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: DCharlieJP on April 18, 2013, 08:45:12 PM
Quote
Wii U™ owners have a ton of great games to look forward to from Nintendo and its third-party partners, including Game & Wario™ on June 23, Pikmin™ 3 on Aug. 4, Disney's Planes from Disney Interactive on Aug. 6 and Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell® Blacklist™ from Ubisoft® on Aug. 20. At the upcoming E3 trade show in June in Los Angeles, Nintendo expects to show attendees upcoming Wii U games from the Mario Kart™, Super Mario Bros.™ and Super Smash Bros.™ franchises.

THERE IS LITERALLY NO WIIU GAMES FOR TWO MONTHS

also - i bought Game and Wario and it's absolute straight up garbage. I mean - not just -bad- but "HOLY FUCK -why- would you even release this piece of shit?" levels of bad.

fer example - in the first game (archery) the controls are a bit twitch as they are tied in to a frankly dull game but there's this weird pointless mechanic where a cannon fires at you and you have to put the pad up right so it deflects the cannon ball back. Now... the issue is that after you've done that you're wii pad is completely decalibrated so you are then having to point your pad completely away from the screen to continue the game. It eventually recalibrates but GOD DAMN, how would you not spot this? The other games are literally $0.79 ipad games you'd buy, play once, then delete. It's absolutely horrific and i am horrified that the Made in Wario series has went from it's absolutely glorious start to this festering turd of an effort. This also has the other affect of "is this really all Nintendo could come up with to show case the unique selling points of WiiUs controls? Because... hey... you are pushing lit dogshit through my content letter box here"

Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Don Flamenco on April 18, 2013, 08:46:54 PM
Quote from: Creepy Old Guy on April 18, 2013, 06:55:05 PM
Where are the weeeooooooooo system numbers???


People have to buy at least one of something in order for it to have numbers. 
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Purple Filth on April 18, 2013, 08:49:38 PM
Quote from: fryinghigh on April 18, 2013, 07:14:44 PM
gears beat god of war in the battle of why

good for luigi mansion, tho.  at least I'm assuming it's good.  it's doing well in Japan, too.

I expected gears over it tbh but i'm interested in how much over it did due to their placement.

and Lego City is really undercover  :lol
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: pilonv1 on April 18, 2013, 08:50:47 PM
Where's the MH numbers? :teehee
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Rahxephon91 on April 18, 2013, 08:50:52 PM
Quote from: fryinghigh on April 18, 2013, 07:14:44 PM
gears beat god of war in the battle of why


What a battle too. Judgement has to be the most pointless "prequel" I've ever seen. Nothing of importance/relevance happens. No greater insight in the Gears "lore" is gained. Even the characters are lifeless and I guess the lame excuse is that they are young. Eh wouldn't Cole Train be more obnoxious when he's young and the war has yet to take it's toll?

I mean the game's fun enough and it's got DAT Ass, but wow was it pointless.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Steve Youngblood on April 18, 2013, 08:55:09 PM
One unsubstantiated post I saw was < 61K for Wii U. Creamsugar has only posted a vague pit chart thus far.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Shaka Khan on April 18, 2013, 08:55:47 PM
Quote from: creamsugar
hw
(http://i.minus.com/jjj2lAJCyOmNW.png)
(http://i.minus.com/jBvBtl3wW5oHU.png)

Quote from: creamsugar
psp<psv<u<ds<wii<ps3<3ds<360
360+u>ps3+wii

(http://i.imgur.com/iMJc2JS.gif)
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: DCharlieJP on April 18, 2013, 08:59:24 PM
p.s. i love the Uthings - they never EVER fail to find a new way to say "WiiU Bombing? More bad news for MS and Sony!" - it's fucking stupid. The WiiU is doing badly because the games are a cavalcade of wank. Yes, yes, yes - "but $349 ! That's the real problem! People have no money yo!" - that only takes you so far. The top and bottom of it is there's no compelling reason to buy a WiiU - the price doesn't help, but the software line up and the fact it's mired in a gen that's ending hurt it way way more. What Sony and MS are doing is going to have fuck all to do with WiiU's self inflicted shotgun wound to the face -

"Hey! You like Mini Metros? I know there's a couple of cheap ones on the market - but how about you buy OUR Mini Metro? Sure - its pretty much the same car but this one is a nice red colour and it has a mahogony steering wheel - oh and costs a good 60% more and it's not quite as much fun !.... what do you mean you aren't interested?! Well.... good luck to MS and Sony selling their new souped up sports cars at the same price to you obvious POORS!"


Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Don Flamenco on April 18, 2013, 09:02:31 PM
they're just projecting when they say people have no money
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Purple Filth on April 18, 2013, 09:19:17 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on April 18, 2013, 09:14:02 PM
The WiiU would be bombing in any case.  As Nintendo opted to not even try this time, we'll have to wait and see if the console market has been affected like the handheld market has. I think it has, though.

I was talking about this to a friend and it's really looking like it (friend was already an example of Smartphones/Tablets taking away the desire of a console).

We'll just have to see when PS4/Durango are out.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: cool breeze on April 18, 2013, 10:09:53 PM
Quote from: creamsugar gaf
100k < lego < hunter 3ds+wiiu < 130k
nfs < 10k
IGN4.7 ~ 30k

Is Castlevania 3DS at ~30k bad enough to get Iga back? 
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Purple Filth on April 18, 2013, 10:10:46 PM
from cream sugar

Quote
No new game > 1m
 600k < gowj < gowa < tr, but the diff between each other is less than 10k
 hunter / lego fan could be sad

Seems God of War wins over Gears if the hardware bundle is included but the "clear" amount is not that significant.

Honestly surprised how close they really were and even tomb Raider was in on the fun.


Lego  :lol

MH  :lol and  :'( since I really like the series



Quote from: fryinghigh on April 18, 2013, 10:09:53 PM
Quote from: creamsugar gaf
100k < lego < hunter 3ds+wiiu < 130k
nfs < 10k
IGN4.7 ~ 30k

Is Castlevania 3DS at ~30k bad enough to get Iga back?

WOW at NFS  :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol

If that isn't a bonafide sign for EA bailing I don't know what is.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: chronovore on April 18, 2013, 10:20:04 PM
Tanking harder than a panzer blitz.

It does make me fearful for next gen; I love games, but I spend more time on my iPad lately than anything else.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: pilonv1 on April 18, 2013, 11:01:23 PM
has anyone seen andrex after this MH news?
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Purple Filth on April 18, 2013, 11:52:59 PM
Quote from: pilonv1 on April 18, 2013, 11:01:23 PM
has anyone seen andrex after this MH news?

 :lol @ the like at this
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Pringo on April 18, 2013, 11:54:15 PM
Better numbers:

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=542856&page=35

Quote
SoftWare 13,597K（▲5%）
・Gears of War Judgment: 620K
・Bioshock Infinite 870K
・God of War Ascension 570K
・Tomb Raider 640K
・Luigi's Mansion Dark Moon 360K


Hardware 990K（▲32%)
・3DS 230K（+1%）
・Wii 91K（▲47%）
・Wii U 67K
・PS3 211K（▲36%）
・360 261K（▲30%）

Quote
360 - 261K
3DS - 230K
PS3 - 211K
Wii - 91K
NDS - 86K
Wii U - 67K
PSV - 33K
PSP - 8K

NDS, PSV, and PSP are calculated.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Flannel Boy on April 18, 2013, 11:56:57 PM
Hey, 66,666 would've won again.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Phoenix Dark on April 18, 2013, 11:57:56 PM
Quote from: Flannel Boy on April 18, 2013, 11:56:57 PM
Hey, 66,666 would've won again.
:lol
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Human Snorenado on April 19, 2013, 12:13:46 AM
wow shock, monster hunter has limited western appeal, who would have thought

Also continued lulz @ the weeeeoooooooo and nintendo's inevitable slide into irrelevance.  THUNDERDOME GEN IS BEST GEN.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Don Flamenco on April 19, 2013, 12:17:46 AM
Quote from: pilonv1 on April 18, 2013, 11:01:23 PM
has anyone seen andrex after this MH news?


He only communicates through likes now.  i've slowly warmed up to it.

occasionally you see his evil twin, Androx.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Purple Filth on April 19, 2013, 12:18:41 AM
Quote from: Flannel Boy on April 18, 2013, 11:56:57 PM
Hey, 66,666 would've won again.

 :lol
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on April 19, 2013, 01:39:45 AM
Kinect is almost 2X Wii u this month too

standalone
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Human Snorenado on April 19, 2013, 01:44:19 AM
Quote from: maxy on April 19, 2013, 01:39:45 AM
Kinect is almost 2X Wii u this month too

standalone

 :dead
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on April 19, 2013, 01:57:02 AM
 nfsu, the vita version has like 100k on Wii u, Hell it outsold it this month too
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Stoney Mason on April 19, 2013, 02:03:17 AM
Quote from: maxy on April 19, 2013, 01:39:45 AM
Kinect is almost 2X Wii u this month too

standalone

Nintendo is so done with that console. And the scary part I keep saying is that its not like the 360 or PS 3 go away. They only get cheaper in the future with a massive library of games already under their belt. The casuals left Nintendo. The hardcore left Nintendo. All you have left is kids and nostalgia.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Stoney Mason on April 19, 2013, 02:34:09 AM
I mean more like parents still view Nintendo as the kid friendly console without all that nasty GTA stuff. At least that's the sense I get when I talk to parents with kids.

Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Don Flamenco on April 19, 2013, 02:35:04 AM
Quote from: maxy on April 19, 2013, 01:39:45 AM
Kinect is almost 2X Wii u this month too

standalone



what the fuck are people playing on this?   I don't even mean like "what awesome hardcore game" but seriously, is there support for it?  you just don't hear about it these days.

edit: i mean the kinect :teehee
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cascade on April 19, 2013, 02:43:43 AM
Quote
As for the above Need for Speed U question, the vita version has like 100k on the Wii u, Hell it outsold it this month too
:dead. If you were still  crazy enough to have any hope left then this sufficiently wraps up any future EA support. The Nintenyearolds will still continue to blame third parties for Wii U's lack of sales though.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Shaka Khan on April 19, 2013, 02:45:11 AM
Quote from: Cascade on April 19, 2013, 02:43:43 AM
Quote
As for the above Need for Speed U question, the vita version has like 100k on the Wii u, Hell it outsold it this month too
:dead. If you were still  crazy enough to have any hope left then this sufficiently wraps up any future EA support. The Nintenyearolds will still continue to blame third parties though for Wii U's lack of sales though.

WOW

Edit: What's the source of this?
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on April 19, 2013, 03:05:35 AM
I wonder how bad EU numbers are since the US is traditionally a much stronger territory for Nintendo. Withou Fifa this summer/fall/winter things will be beyond dire.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on April 19, 2013, 03:25:17 AM
Quote from: Shaka Khan on April 19, 2013, 02:45:11 AM
Quote from: Cascade on April 19, 2013, 02:43:43 AM
Quote
As for the above Need for Speed U question, the vita version has like 100k on the Wii u, Hell it outsold it this month too
:dead. If you were still  crazy enough to have any hope left then this sufficiently wraps up any future EA support. The Nintenyearolds will still continue to blame third parties though for Wii U's lack of sales though.

WOW

Edit: What's the source of this?

Harker
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Don Flamenco on April 19, 2013, 03:28:12 AM
i'm surprised it hit 100k on the vita
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on April 19, 2013, 03:33:27 AM
Quote from: Don Flamenco on April 19, 2013, 02:35:04 AM
Quote from: maxy on April 19, 2013, 01:39:45 AM
Kinect is almost 2X Wii u this month too

standalone



what the fuck are people playing on this?   I don't even mean like "what awesome hardcore game" but seriously, is there support for it?  you just don't hear about it these days.

edit: i mean the kinect :teehee

I heard that Kinect is fun with kids.

/anecdotal evidence from some European Sonyland forums
Title: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Shaka Khan on April 19, 2013, 03:36:35 AM
Quote from: maxy on April 19, 2013, 03:25:17 AM
Quote from: Shaka Khan on April 19, 2013, 02:45:11 AM
Quote from: Cascade on April 19, 2013, 02:43:43 AM
Quote
As for the above Need for Speed U question, the vita version has like 100k on the Wii u, Hell it outsold it this month too
:dead. If you were still  crazy enough to have any hope left then this sufficiently wraps up any future EA support. The Nintenyearolds will still continue to blame third parties though for Wii U's lack of sales though.

WOW

Edit: What's the source of this?

Harker

His twitter or GAF account?
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on April 19, 2013, 03:43:02 AM
gaf

he said this too

He's being generous with NFSU being "10k", by the way.... Wowzer.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on April 19, 2013, 03:56:27 AM
I know.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cascade on April 19, 2013, 04:06:19 AM
Bioshock sells 878K:
Quote
Update: Number one game BioShock Infinite sold 878,000 units on home consoles during the month, according to data supplied by Cowen and Company. The analysts now expect the game to be on track to sell 4.5 million units (including PC sales) for its first year on sale.

I doubt even 4.5 million is enough to pay for 6 years of development.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on April 19, 2013, 04:24:33 AM
6 years? We got 3 Bioshocks this gen.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Phoenix Dark on April 19, 2013, 04:38:07 AM
Can't wait for Lego's sales numbers next month
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Damian79 on April 19, 2013, 05:03:03 AM
Quote from: Purple Filth on April 18, 2013, 10:10:46 PM

WOW at NFS  :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol

If that isn't a bonafide sign for EA bailing I don't know what is.

It is sad that is is the best version according to the devs too.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Purple Filth on April 19, 2013, 05:33:06 AM
Quote from: maxy on April 19, 2013, 01:39:45 AM
Kinect is almost 2X Wii u this month too

standalone

:jada

Quote from: Cascade on April 19, 2013, 02:43:43 AM
Quote
As for the above Need for Speed U question, the vita version has like 100k on the Wii u, Hell it outsold it this month too
:dead. If you were still  crazy enough to have any hope left then this sufficiently wraps up any future EA support. The Nintenyearolds will still continue to blame third parties for Wii U's lack of sales though.

:jada :jada


Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Flannel Boy on April 19, 2013, 06:36:53 AM
Quote from: maxy on April 19, 2013, 03:43:02 AM
gaf

he said this too

He's being generous with NFSU being "10k", by the way.... Wowzer.
:deadkobe
Nintendo fans should be commended; they're the only ones boycotting "the worst company in America."   :skip
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Great Rumbler on April 19, 2013, 09:13:51 AM
Quote from: Premium Lager on April 19, 2013, 04:24:33 AM
6 years? We got 3 Bioshocks this gen.

Yes, but Bioshock 1 came out in 2007 and Bioshock 2 was not developed by Irrational.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Don Flamenco on April 19, 2013, 10:47:32 AM
NSFU

Not Safe For U 


 :miyamoto
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on April 19, 2013, 10:49:06 AM
No Sales For U either

Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Don Flamenco on April 19, 2013, 10:51:10 AM
Quote from: MyNameIsMethodis on April 19, 2013, 10:49:06 AM
No Sales For U either

this is better :lol
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on April 19, 2013, 10:56:58 AM
GR: Okay that is a long time then.

Quote from: MyNameIsMethodis on April 19, 2013, 10:49:06 AM
No Sales For U either

 :dead
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Human Snorenado on April 19, 2013, 12:37:22 PM
Man, I just liked a methodis post.  FEELS WEIRD MAN
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Joe Molotov on April 19, 2013, 01:18:26 PM
Quote from: Creepy Old Guy on April 19, 2013, 12:37:22 PM
Man, I just liked a methodis post.  FEELS WEIRD MAN

Wii U bombing brings us all together.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Mr. Gundam on April 19, 2013, 01:47:23 PM
Quote from: Joe Molotov on April 19, 2013, 01:18:26 PM
Quote from: Creepy Old Guy on April 19, 2013, 12:37:22 PM
Man, I just liked a methodis post.  FEELS WEIRD MAN

Wii U bombing brings us all together.

It's a love that goes beyond side hugs.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on April 19, 2013, 02:24:13 PM
man, Bioshock is gonna be one of the most successful flops of all time
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Trent Dole on April 19, 2013, 04:53:44 PM
OF ALL TIME
:yeshrug
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Mr. Gundam on April 19, 2013, 05:05:41 PM
Quote from: Trent Dole on April 19, 2013, 04:53:44 PM
OF ALL TIME
:yeshrug

FOEVAEVAEVA
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on April 20, 2013, 05:37:35 AM
Quote
I do wonder what Nintendo's battle plan is. Are they really gonna brush the console off till the holidays when they could relaunch it? Third parties and retailers would be asking for blood and abandon it long before if it keeps this up.

H:
already started

:(

---

Reggie  :gddr5

Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Don Flamenco on April 20, 2013, 10:47:01 AM
I guess if this is your first gen, you wouldn't know that nintendo's battle plan is Mario.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cascade on April 21, 2013, 03:16:59 AM
John Harker on Wii U game sales:

Quote
[For NFS]10k is a fair round up, mind you...
You're generally looking around 6-8k sales for most games per month, outside a couple focused launch titles
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on April 21, 2013, 06:36:07 AM
NSMBU>>>lame third party games
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on April 21, 2013, 08:01:27 AM
EA will come crawling back to Nintendo after selling millions of units on PS360/PS4rango and PC.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Phoenix Dark on April 21, 2013, 07:18:29 PM
Quote from: Cascade on April 21, 2013, 03:16:59 AM
John Harker on Wii U game sales:

Quote
[For NFS]10k is a fair round up, mind you...
You're generally looking around 6-8k sales for most games per month, outside a couple focused launch titles

Given how long generations last, isn't this a good thing? Consistent sales over 8 years>big 1-2 month sales before falling off the map completely
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Don Flamenco on April 21, 2013, 07:39:10 PM
Quote from: Premium Lager on April 21, 2013, 08:01:27 AM
EA will come crawling back to Nintendo after selling millions of units on PS360/PS4rango and PC.


As if Ninty would let them.  EA has betrayed Nintendo time and time again.  Iwata is a man of honor and Reggie has a finely honed business acumen--together they could smell EA's bullshit from a mile away.  If an EA game ends up on another Nintendo console, I will microwave my copy of the repro cart of the translation of Mother 3.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: DCharlieJP on April 21, 2013, 08:29:53 PM
When Iwata and Reggie get fired and then get replaced by people we've never heard of watch how quick Twatta and Sneggie are thrown under a bus by nthings and how the new replacements -regardless of who they are- will be the GREATEST THINGS EVER!

Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Shaka Khan on April 21, 2013, 10:04:19 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on April 21, 2013, 09:15:02 PM
Seems the true god of Nintards is Emily Rogers.

I'm gagging.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Don Flamenco on April 21, 2013, 10:39:30 PM
Quote from: DCharlieJP on April 21, 2013, 08:29:53 PM
When Iwata and Reggie get fired and then get replaced by people we've never heard of watch how quick Twatta and Sneggie are thrown under a bus by nthings and how the new replacements -regardless of who they are- will be the GREATEST THINGS EVER!



All the new guy has to do is work a mild swear into his PR pitch to the media.   It worked last time...bought the guy like 10 years of cred :lol


Or maybe he has to up his game.   "I'm [insert name], and I'm gonna slap the dick out of Kaz Hirai's mouth!"
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Trent Dole on April 21, 2013, 11:22:49 PM
I had to google ER to find out who she is  ???
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Raban on April 21, 2013, 11:38:26 PM
You should actually read the articles with her name on them, particularly this one:
http://www.notenoughshaders.com/2013/04/02/satoru-iwata-hubris-versus-western-culture/
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Great Rumbler on April 21, 2013, 11:49:15 PM
Why do people still care about Nintendo? Grow up, please.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Great Rumbler on April 22, 2013, 12:00:02 AM
Sounds like the third layer of Hell, Oscar.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: MCD on April 22, 2013, 12:53:42 AM
I bought a PS3 for my brother's kid and after buying few games for him...there is nothing to buy anymore. Lol

Should have bought a Wii and loaded the fucker with every fucking rom on earth.

And Kinect is not an option since it requires a room the size of a hippo's ass.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: pilonv1 on April 22, 2013, 02:55:29 AM
Andrex seems to like a lot of this page.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Trent Dole on April 22, 2013, 03:26:31 AM
Quote from: pilonv1 on April 22, 2013, 02:55:29 AM
Andrex seems to like a lot of this page.
Quit being such a goddamn pussy and just start fucking posting again already, taco.  :-*
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on April 22, 2013, 03:38:22 AM
Come back Andrex I'll be gentle this time  :troll :datass
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: MCD on April 22, 2013, 04:03:38 AM
It's all about Androx now.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Don Flamenco on April 22, 2013, 04:03:52 AM
Andrex is a little man who lives in the bore like system.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on April 22, 2013, 04:23:10 AM
http://www.20min.ch/digital/games/story/50-Millionen-Dollar-fuer-den-Gott-des-Krieges-26382714

GOW:A development...about $50 million.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Don Flamenco on April 22, 2013, 12:16:29 PM
Quote from: maxy on April 22, 2013, 04:23:10 AM
http://www.20min.ch/digital/games/story/50-Millionen-Dollar-fuer-den-Gott-des-Krieges-26382714

GOW:A development...about $50 million.


the gdp of a small country to develop that
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: bachikarn on April 22, 2013, 11:07:34 PM
http://mobile.bloomberg.com/news/2013-04-22/nintendo-ceo-seen-missing-profit-target-as-wii-u-founders.html?cmpid=yhoo

Bloomberg: Nintendo to announce 18.7 Billion Yen loss for the fiscal year


Please understand.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Human Snorenado on April 22, 2013, 11:13:34 PM
(http://www.universeguide.com/Pictures/Emperor_Palpatine.jpg)
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Joe Molotov on April 22, 2013, 11:35:39 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/WBN0D.gif)

(Old, but you get the idea)
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: pilonv1 on April 22, 2013, 11:45:41 PM
Should be a Wii U Gamepad
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Phoenix Dark on April 23, 2013, 09:20:29 AM
Analysts don't understand the game industry. Zelda and Mario will increase profits significantly; I suggest you buy more stock.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Momo on April 23, 2013, 01:31:49 PM
I hope Bioshock tanks
I hope Iwata/Miyamoto gets fired

Suck my dick, choke on it.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: magus on April 23, 2013, 01:33:33 PM
Quote from: Joe Molotov on April 22, 2013, 11:35:39 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/WBN0D.gif)

(Old, but you get the idea)

shouldn't the money go inside the 3DS instead of the other way around?
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Momo on April 23, 2013, 01:37:47 PM
It's like the spinning girl, if i concentrate I can make it go in either direction
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Flannel Boy on April 23, 2013, 03:53:57 PM
Quote from: Phoenix Dark on April 23, 2013, 09:20:29 AM
Analysts don't understand the game industry. Zelda and Mario will increase profits significantly; I suggest you buy more stock.

Not this time. Zelda doesn't look lived in.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Don Flamenco on April 23, 2013, 04:14:19 PM
"So lemme get this straight...you kids want a dark, mature Zelda in a "lived in" looking world that takes the series in a fresh direction but with a top down perspective, signaling the series going back to it's roots in order to appeal to your nostalgia, and also you should be able to choose Link's gender?" 

*neogaf nods sheepishly*

Iwata (from behind the mirror):  "“You kids don’t know what you want!  That’s why you’re still kids, cause you’re stupid!  Just tell me what’s wrong with the freakin’ game!”


(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_leetnv21it1qdoghio1_400.gif)
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Trent Dole on April 23, 2013, 11:13:46 PM
What's wrong with the game is it fucking sucks now.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Shaka Khan on April 24, 2013, 01:32:35 AM
Quote from: Flannel Boy on April 23, 2013, 03:53:57 PM
Quote from: Phoenix Dark on April 23, 2013, 09:20:29 AM
Analysts don't understand the game industry. Zelda and Mario will increase profits significantly; I suggest you buy more stock.

Not this time. Zelda doesn't look lived in.

:rofl
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on April 24, 2013, 03:12:21 AM
http://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/pdf/2013/130424e.pdf

(https://i.minus.com/i3WYZGVpRLZsk.png)
(https://i.minus.com/iXyHnQXJEQnT5.png)
(https://i.minus.com/ibtbXnR0DC0Xmh.png)

Next fiscal year WiiU forecast is 9 million.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cascade on April 24, 2013, 03:33:38 AM
Wii U Sales

Code: [Select]
Hardware       Ap-Jn    Jl-Sp    Oc-Dc    Ja-Mr      FY      LTD

FY 2012/13       -        -      3.06     0.39       3.45    3.45



Software       Ap-Jn    Jl-Sp    Oc-Dc    Ja-Mr      FY      LTD

FY 2012/13       -        -      11.69    1.73       13.42   13.42
Their original forecast was 5.5 million :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol. They only shipped 390K units this whole year proving that most retailers are still stuck on their launch shipments.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: treythemovie on April 24, 2013, 06:33:14 AM
More ridiculous: they forecast 9 million Wii Us sold this coming year, with no price drop.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Great Rumbler on April 24, 2013, 09:00:45 AM
Incredible software sales for the Wii, can anyone tell us how that stacks up against the PS2?
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: AdmiralViscen on April 24, 2013, 09:20:20 AM
If they hit their projection, will they be ahead of or behind the Dreamcast in the same timeframe?
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: bachikarn on April 24, 2013, 10:12:18 AM
Quote from: treythemovie on April 24, 2013, 06:33:14 AM
More ridiculous: they forecast 9 million Wii Us sold this coming year, with no price drop.

That's their new forecast?
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Flannel Boy on April 24, 2013, 12:12:54 PM
3ds software sales:
1. Mario
2. Mario
3. Mario

large gap

4. not Mario
5. not Mario
6. not Mario
7. Mario
8. Not Mario
9. Mario's brother
10. Not Mario
11. Mario

GAF: Nintendo is releasing too many Mario games.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on April 24, 2013, 05:01:56 PM
They can ship millions to gamecube hut
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on April 25, 2013, 06:38:42 PM
(http://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/en/library/events/130425/img/03l.jpg)
(http://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/en/library/events/130425/img/04l.jpg)
(http://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/en/library/events/130425/img/05l.jpg)
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Great Rumbler on April 25, 2013, 07:14:28 PM
:bow 3DS :bow2
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Trent Dole on April 25, 2013, 08:01:46 PM
Yeah the 3DS JP marketshare is fucking insane. :o
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Flannel Boy on April 25, 2013, 08:23:45 PM
Continental Europe sure likes Sony.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Third on April 27, 2013, 02:33:49 PM
Nintendo's new WiiU forecast is 9mln?

Good luck.  :lol
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on April 27, 2013, 05:15:13 PM
Quote from: Flannel Boy on April 25, 2013, 08:23:45 PM
Continental Europe sure likes Sony.

(http://www.uefa.com/MultimediaFiles/Photo/competitions/Marketing/01/61/99/34/1619934_w2.jpg)

(http://files.coloribus.com/files/adsarchive/part_777/7771255/file/champions-league-sponsorship-champions-league-small-74539.jpg)

(http://images.pushsquare.com/news/2013/02/sony_promoting_playstation_meeting_during_champions_league/attachment/0/650x.jpg)

(http://www.sonyinsider.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/455520622_e8124163e2_b.jpg)

Quote
Lionel Messi reveals secret Playstation life

Barcelona News: Lionel Messi reveals he likes to play Playstation against strangers without them knowing who he is

https://twitter.com/barcastuff/status/312722404382224384
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: tiesto on April 27, 2013, 06:55:15 PM
Heh, Messi is the dude who looks like me, right? That's cool he is a Sony fan and not an Xbot  8)
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on May 02, 2013, 11:36:49 AM
http://www.gamasutra.com/blogs/MattMatthews/20130430/191479/UK_Retail_Marketshare_for_1Q_2013.php

(http://i.imgur.com/aw8U4kI.png)

(http://i.imgur.com/5NHqHKv.png)
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Don Flamenco on May 02, 2013, 11:39:54 AM
obvious fake.  20 isn't even a month
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: hampster on May 03, 2013, 02:10:00 PM
Quote from: Creator of Thomas Was Alone
fun fact, Thomas has been picked by over twice as many people in the last week as it has been in total in the 11 months preceding. (https://twitter.com/mikeBithell/status/330368929534996480)

He credits PS+ for the sales. It was only a 20% discount, I'm surprised it sold so much more than the PC version
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Great Rumbler on May 03, 2013, 07:02:25 PM
Quote from: hampster on May 03, 2013, 02:10:00 PM
Quote from: Creator of Thomas Was Alone
fun fact, Thomas has been picked by over twice as many people in the last week as it has been in total in the 11 months preceding. (https://twitter.com/mikeBithell/status/330368929534996480)

He credits PS+ for the sales. It was only a 20% discount, I'm surprised it sold so much more than the PC version


Looks like some hipster garbage, good thing PC gamers are a bit more discerning about what they purchase. :smug
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on May 09, 2013, 08:09:51 AM
PS3 passed the 360. Next target Wii. 20 million to go, I think they can do it in 3/4 years.

All them tears on gaf  :rejoice

Third consecutive win for Sony within handreach  :umad
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Don Flamenco on May 09, 2013, 09:22:59 AM
still impressive.   I couldn't have given less of a fuck about the thing for years, now it's my runaway favorite of the gen.   Mostly because of PS+ and PS1 BC.   The shittier running fighting games sting though.  And the early crap ports are offset by my PC. 

If I had a PS3 with PS2 and PS1 BC that didn't run like screaming crap and be guaranteed to break soon like most 60gbs and 20gbs, I'd consider it the GOAT. 

Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Father_Brain on May 09, 2013, 09:46:48 AM
http://www.sony.net/SonyInfo/IR/financial/fr/index.html

(http://i.imgur.com/xwAv3BE.jpg)

No official PS4 forecast yet. Vita/PSP combined forecast for FY13 is 5M, down from 16M forecast/7M actual for FY12.

Seems even Sony has concluded that a Western price cut, PS4 accessory features, and whatever unannounced software is coming won't get Vita out of the hole it's in. I actually wonder if they'll officially discontinue it at the corporate strategy meeting on the 22nd (http://www.sony.net/SonyInfo/IR/info/strategy2013/index.html), though that probably won't happen until later this FY.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Don Flamenco on May 09, 2013, 10:05:27 AM
You're honestly wondering if they're gonna cancel the Vita in 13 days?   

don't quit your day job
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Father_Brain on May 09, 2013, 10:17:42 AM
Quote from: Don Flamenco on May 09, 2013, 10:05:27 AM
You're honestly wondering if they're gonna cancel the Vita in 13 days?   

don't quit your day job

Heh. I'd give it a 10-15% chance of happening, in all seriousness.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Eel O'Brian on May 09, 2013, 10:35:59 AM
yeah, they really did a decent job of turning around the PS3 imo

nothing they could do about the relatively flawed hardware, but as far as free services and PS+ and such go they've made it really attractive for consumers over the past couple of years
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on May 09, 2013, 10:52:12 AM
PS3 software sales are starting to look better now though , esp if you consider PS3 will continue to sell for the next 3/5 years where the 360 will be dead @ durango.

I mean look at Q3 and Q4 for EA, PS3 overtook the 360. I can imagine this is the case for more companies.

Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on May 09, 2013, 11:00:41 AM
Why would 360 stop selling when Rango is out?
Especially with $99 360 in the works

As for EA,didn't have much time these days but if I remember well EA 360 and PS3 figures and not directly comparable(different ways of accounting digital sales).
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on May 09, 2013, 11:52:12 AM
The gap between ps3 and 360 is getting bigger not smaller. Plus ps3 can still go 149 and 99 too.

PS3 is just starting to reach affordable prices where its popular, while 360 is only popular in the states and sales are down down down there.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: AdmiralViscen on May 09, 2013, 12:00:25 PM
The PS2 didn't even go to $99, I truly doubt the PS3 will.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Raban on May 09, 2013, 12:13:59 PM
Pretty sure the PS2 dropped to $99 in the US a few years ago. (http://blog.us.playstation.com/2009/03/31/playstation-2-will-be-available-for-under-100/)
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Don Flamenco on May 09, 2013, 12:47:49 PM
Quote from: Father_Brain on May 09, 2013, 10:17:42 AM
Quote from: Don Flamenco on May 09, 2013, 10:05:27 AM
You're honestly wondering if they're gonna cancel the Vita in 13 days?   

don't quit your day job

Heh. I'd give it a 10-15% chance of happening, in all seriousness.



it's not happening before Final Fantasy X and X-2 HD come out, as well as all the indie games they've been courting which are all PS3/Vita cross buy.   I don't think they can just cancel a system all of the sudden, they'd have a shitstorm on their hands.  They'd have to wind it down.  They still have a crap ton of 1st party IPs to try out on the thing too.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: archnemesis on May 09, 2013, 01:02:14 PM
They can still sell it as an accessory to the PS4 even if it's going to difficult for them to turn the sales numbers around outside of Japan.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on May 09, 2013, 01:07:33 PM
I wonder if they could the Vita price down to 99 and just promote its an extra as archnemesis says, plus extra incentive to get PS+ then.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: archnemesis on May 09, 2013, 01:10:31 PM
I doubt they're willing to sell it at a great loss.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on May 09, 2013, 01:22:03 PM
I think they dropped the loss incurring strategy after the PS3 debacle.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Father_Brain on May 09, 2013, 01:38:48 PM
Quote from: Don Flamenco on May 09, 2013, 12:47:49 PM
it's not happening before Final Fantasy X and X-2 HD come out, as well as all the indie games they've been courting which are all PS3/Vita cross buy.   I don't think they can just cancel a system all of the sudden, they'd have a shitstorm on their hands.  They'd have to wind it down.  They still have a crap ton of 1st party IPs to try out on the thing too.

I can see it happening pretty suddenly, since I don't think the decision will ultimately be in SCE execs' hands. But probably not for at least a few more months, though I still expect it to happen by or at the release of their FY2013 results a year from now.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: archnemesis on May 09, 2013, 02:23:38 PM
Quote from: Premium Lager on May 09, 2013, 01:22:03 PM
I think they dropped the loss incurring strategy after the PS3 debacle.
The PS4 will likely also sell at a loss, but a less outrageous one.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on May 09, 2013, 02:27:59 PM
I think so too, but they also didn't invest bazillions in RD and making their own chips now.

Link to my source just for Oscar (http://hotsauceandsalsa.com/images/slap-my-ass-and-call-me-sally.jpg)

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Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: archnemesis on May 09, 2013, 02:29:26 PM
Yeah, this strategy is definitely more sound.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Steve Contra on May 09, 2013, 03:02:40 PM
Quote from: Premium Lager on May 09, 2013, 02:27:59 PM
I think so too, but they also didn't invest bazillions in RD and making their own chips now.

Link to my source just for Oscar (http://hotsauceandsalsa.com/images/slap-my-ass-and-call-me-sally.jpg)

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What's with the two different fonts and two different colors?  Those are a design nightmare.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Don Flamenco on May 09, 2013, 07:26:40 PM
yeah, i kinda just figured the guy was attempting gaf bait posts on the bore...

anyway, sounds there are some announcements coming at E3:

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Shahid Kamal Ahmad on Twitter:

He talked about games he signed: Thomas Was Alone, Hotline Miami, Rotating Octopus Character, Limbo, Luftrausers, Velocity Ultra, Terraria and Floating Cloud God Saves the HD Pilgrims.

BUT he added this: "Oh and the P game".

I asked about what "P" game and he told me: "the one that people will say to me “WTF?!” Or “COOL!”

He added: "And I’m hoping to get some more stuff signed before E3. Something for everyone".

I asked about E3 show, hoping Sony won't forget about Vita, and told me this: "I’m sure you will enjoy the show, nobody has forgotten about Vita, trust me".

Then he said: "Oh and there is an AMAZING big title coming to Vita. I can’t tell you anything about it, except that you are gonna be hooked for hours".


indie games aren't gonna put the bread on the table but they are very welcome!   not sure what "P" is supposed to be.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Huff on May 09, 2013, 08:40:09 PM
sounds like persona 5 vita exclusive confirmed
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Huff on May 09, 2013, 08:46:43 PM
PSV/WiiU combo sounds like the best situation for atlus tbh
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Don Flamenco on May 09, 2013, 10:30:38 PM
Pshenmue 3
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Himu on May 09, 2013, 10:42:53 PM
Quote from: Huff on May 09, 2013, 08:40:09 PM
sounds like persona 5 vita exclusive confirmed

Jesus Shit christ don't do this to me or I will MURDER you.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Himu on May 09, 2013, 10:43:42 PM
Quote from: Huff on May 09, 2013, 08:46:43 PM
PSV/WiiU combo sounds like the best situation for atlus tbh

UGH!!!!!!!!!

(http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view/875953/black-guy-see-s-kfc-explode-o.gif)

(http://images.ridemonkey.com/index.php?size=full&src=http%3A%2F%2Fgifninja.com%2Fanimatedgifs%2F107270%2Fbig-trouble-in-little-china-exploding-guy.gif)
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Don Flamenco on May 10, 2013, 08:16:33 AM
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We’re back with April’s North American top sellers (see Europe’s charts here).

DrinkBox Studios’ action-platformer Guacamelee! fought its way up the charts to #1 on both the PS3 and PS Vita charts. Hot titles from last month, Tomb Raider and Terraria, follow up in second and third place, respectively, while Telltale’s award-winning The Walking Dead grabs a spot in the top 10.

Both Call of Duty: Black Ops II and Skyrim dominate the downloadable content section. Soul Sacrifice rose to the number two spot, even though it only released the last day of the month. In the PSM list, Beats Trellis continues to be popular among the community. On with the show!

Top 20 PS3 & PSN Games

    Guacamelee!
    Tomb Raider
    Terraria
    Grand Theft Auto IV
    Borderlands 2
    Resident Evil 6
    The Walking Dead – Season Pass
    Injustice: Gods Among Us
    BioShock Infinite
    Defiance
    Far Cry 3 Blood Dragon
    Dragon’s Dogma: Dark Arisen
    Resident Evil 4
    Journey
    Yu-Gi-Oh! 5D’s Decade Duels Plus
    Call of Duty: Black Ops II
    Borderlands
    MLB 13 The Show
    Dragon Fantasy Book I
    Grand Theft Auto: Episodes from Liberty City


Top 10 PS Vita Games

    Guacamelee!
    Soul Sacrifice
    Dragon Fantasy Book I PS Vita
    Atelier Totori Plus: The Adventurer of Arland
    Urban Trial Freestyle
    Machinarium
    Thomas Was Alone
    Nun Attack
    Mortal Kombat PS Vita
    Persona 4 Golden


Top 10 PS3 Add-Ons

    Call of Duty: Black Ops II Nuketown Zombies Map
    Call of Duty: Black Ops II – Revolution
    Borderlands 2: Ultimate Vault Hunter Upgrade Pack
    Call of Duty: Black Ops II – Season Pass
    TES V: Skyrim Hearthfire
    TES V: Skyrim Dawnguard
    TES V: Skyrim Dragonborn
    Injustice: Gods Among Us – Season Pass
    METAL GEAR RISING: REVENGEANCE Jetstream DLC
    Ultimate Ninja Storm 3 Ninja Costumes + ROAD TO NINJA Pack


Top 5 PlayStation Mobile

    Beats Trellis
    Quiet, Please!
    Castle Invasion
    Switch Galaxy
    Snake


Click here for more information on how to get PlayStation Mobile games for your PS Vita or PlayStation certified device.

Top 5 PS2 Classics

    Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas
    Grand Theft Auto: Vice City
    Bully
    Grand Theft Auto: Vice City Stories
    Grand Theft Auto: Liberty City Stories


Top 5 PS1 Classics

    Resident Evil 2 (PS3/PSP/PS Vita)
    Resident Evil 3: Nemesis (PS3/PSP/PS Vita)
    Resident Evil Director’s Cut (PS3/PSP/PS Vita)
    FINAL FANTASY VII (PS3/PSP/PS Vita)
    FINAL FANTASY IX (PS3/PSP/PS Vita)


Top 5 PSP Games

    Grand Theft Auto: Vice City Stories
    Black Rock Shooter The Game
    Grand Theft Auto: Liberty City Stories
    God of War: Ghost of Sparta
    Monster Hunter Freedom Unite


Top 5 PS minis

    The Impossible Game
    Monopoly
    Jetpack Joyride
    One Epic Game
    Carnivores: Dinosaur Hunter


If you’re not on your PS3 or PS Vita, you can check out these games and more via the the PlayStation Store on the web. See you next month with May’s top sellers!


http://blog.us.playstation.com/2013/05/09/april-2013-psn-top-sellers-guacamelee-fights-to-the-top/#comment-853818


Guacamelee #1 on both lists, that's crazy.   And in the comments section, guy says cross-buy only counts for the system it was purchased on originally.

Soul Sacrifice made it to #2 without much time at all...did they have preorders on PSN for this?   
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on May 10, 2013, 08:22:55 AM
Charts without numbers  :piss
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Don Flamenco on May 10, 2013, 09:11:49 AM
Quote from: Borys on May 10, 2013, 08:49:20 AM
Guacamelee! deserves every sale it got and then some. It's my GOTY, yes it is even better than Bioshock Infinite.


like beating a suspect in shackles
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Father_Brain on May 10, 2013, 11:02:57 AM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on May 09, 2013, 07:24:27 PM
I'd put father brain's scenario at a roughly 0% chance of happening.  Even if they internally decide(d) to give up on the thing, they're not going to come out and say it.  That kind of thing really only happens when you are permanently checking out of the market.

Are you saying that you expect Sony to try again with a third dedicated handheld platform, or just that you expect them to continue some token level of Vita support for another few years? The latter could happen, but I don't see how the former is at all plausible.

I'm not expecting it would be announced in a particularly conspicuous way, i.e. getting its own press release. Just a sentence or so in one of their future earnings releases, or being absent from their FY2014 forecast.

...also, forecasting only 3-3.5M shipped this FY is already almost as close as they could get to giving up without officially giving up. I guess the forecast could have been even lower, though?
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Don Flamenco on May 10, 2013, 11:07:35 AM
Quote from: Father_Brain on May 10, 2013, 11:02:57 AM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on May 09, 2013, 07:24:27 PM
I'd put father brain's scenario at a roughly 0% chance of happening.  Even if they internally decide(d) to give up on the thing, they're not going to come out and say it.  That kind of thing really only happens when you are permanently checking out of the market.

Are you saying that you expect Sony to try again with a third dedicated handheld platform



how did you get that from that
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Father_Brain on May 10, 2013, 11:11:29 AM
Quote from: Don Flamenco on May 10, 2013, 11:07:35 AM
how did you get that from that

Well, maybe he meant dedicated gaming hardware in general, but that makes even less sense given the context. Not sure what other market he's referring to Sony hypothetically checking out of.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Don Flamenco on May 10, 2013, 11:13:45 AM
he meant permanently checking out of the handheld market.

and see my post above, it's from one of the guys who approves games at Sony.   they seem to have a push ready for E3.  how strong it is, we'll see, but it doesn't sound token. 
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Father_Brain on May 10, 2013, 11:28:46 AM
Quote from: Don Flamenco on May 10, 2013, 11:13:45 AM
he meant permanently checking out of the handheld market.

I'm not quite sure if you or Oscar is arguing otherwise, but Vita is Sony's last dedicated handheld. Period. Whenever they discontinue it, be it a year or three years from now, they'll be exiting the market.

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and see my post above, it's from one of the guys who approves games at Sony.   they seem to have a push ready for E3.  how strong it is, we'll see, but it doesn't sound token. 

I'll give Shahid some benefit of the doubt, since he's a pretty stand-up guy in general, but I'm not sure you can extrapolate that much from his tweet, nor can I imagine anything that could be announced for Vita in the West that would actually move hardware on a large scale even if Sony were planning a major holiday push (and the low forecast suggests they aren't).
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Father_Brain on May 10, 2013, 12:34:20 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on May 10, 2013, 12:30:18 PM
I'll explain when I'm at a keyboard, unless one of you numbskulls manages to piece it together before then.

Like watching a bunch of monkeys trying to start a car with a banana, I swear.

Oh, were you just referring to the corporate strategy meeting on the 22nd? Yeah, that was probably pretty ridiculous for me to suggest.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Don Flamenco on May 10, 2013, 12:50:33 PM
No, he was saying that an ape escape kart racer is coming out soon for the Vita
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on May 10, 2013, 01:26:35 PM
Vita is finished...the end

Something to boost the morale for remaining Vita warriors
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPGUIpv-JxI
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Don Flamenco on May 10, 2013, 01:44:42 PM
Takao on gaf called the "P" game-- 

Plants Vs. Zombies 2   

fuck
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Joe Molotov on May 10, 2013, 02:16:42 PM
Quote from: Don Flamenco on May 10, 2013, 01:44:42 PM
Takao on gaf called the "P" game-- 

Plants Vs. Zombies 2   

fuck

WTF

Also, Taco-chan, y u no post here anymore? Some of us still love you, and the Veetor.  :heart
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: bork on May 10, 2013, 03:42:25 PM
Phantasy Star Online 2 :hyper

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Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Positive Touch on May 10, 2013, 04:25:18 PM
Quote from: Father_Brain on May 10, 2013, 12:34:20 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on May 10, 2013, 12:30:18 PM
I'll explain when I'm at a keyboard, unless one of you numbskulls manages to piece it together before then.

Like watching a bunch of monkeys trying to start a car with a banana, I swear.

Oh, were you just referring to the corporate strategy meeting on the 22nd? Yeah, that was probably pretty ridiculous for me to suggest.

wtf he's saying they'd never announce "the end" of vita because why would you do that? sales would dry up immediately. instead you let devs put their games out, sell out of your remaining stock, and never speak publicly about it again.

jesus ITS NOT THAT HARD
Title: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Huff on May 10, 2013, 04:27:03 PM
I'd love for pvz2 to come. Put so many hours into the free vita version
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Trent Dole on May 10, 2013, 06:45:26 PM
Hah, if the west even gets PSO2 at this point it sure as hell won't get the Vita version. At least not exclusivly. Enough is fan translated to get by and peeps are working on. A hack to show items/weps in Eng as well. Just jump in on the JP version already if you wanna play. They've made low levels go crazy fast if you do Koffee's orders now.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Don Flamenco on May 10, 2013, 09:26:01 PM
i wasn't wrong.  You did mean they'd permanently check out,  for some reason he thought you meant they'd come out with another handheld or something.  i dunno, i'm gonna go smoke some crack rock.   8)
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Father_Brain on May 10, 2013, 11:34:52 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on May 10, 2013, 08:11:24 PM
Quote from: Positive Touch on May 10, 2013, 04:25:18 PM
Quote from: Father_Brain on May 10, 2013, 12:34:20 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on May 10, 2013, 12:30:18 PM
I'll explain when I'm at a keyboard, unless one of you numbskulls manages to piece it together before then.

Like watching a bunch of monkeys trying to start a car with a banana, I swear.

Oh, were you just referring to the corporate strategy meeting on the 22nd? Yeah, that was probably pretty ridiculous for me to suggest.

wtf he's saying they'd never announce "the end" of vita because why would you do that? sales would dry up immediately. instead you let devs put their games out, sell out of your remaining stock, and never speak publicly about it again.

jesus ITS NOT THAT HARD

fucking THANK you

The only times in the past this has been done is when the parent company is in dire financial straits and needs to recall/write-off/liquidate the whole shebang for some quick cash, because it pretty much stops sales dead forever. Think Neo Geo Pocket Color and Dreamcast.

Vita is more like GameCube.  They'll just let it quietly and slowly die without acknowledgement.

Hmm, I think you might be seeing more of a disagreement than there actually is.

As I said above, I don't expect it to be confirmed via its own press release, let alone in a press conference.

And yes, I was admittedly confused by your wording.  To be clear, you do think that the end of Vita, whenever it is, will constitute Sony permanently checking out of the dedicated handheld sector, right?
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: D3RANG3D on May 10, 2013, 11:47:14 PM
Isn't Japan Technically the second largest market for video games? I always see posts on GAF saying it's the smallest market, I could have sworn someone on here more in the know said that's bullshit.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on May 11, 2013, 04:20:56 AM
http://venturebeat.com/2013/05/10/the-deanbeat-why-nintendo-should-have-bought-ouya-and-other-might-have-beens/
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Against the might of Nintendo, Ouya seemed like an ant. Sure, it had raised $8.6 million in crowdfunding on Kickstarter, but to put out a real game console in lots of retail stores takes a huge investment. It had no credibility even with all of the support from indie game developers who didn’t have the cash to make big-budget console games.

Now the scales may be tipping.

Ouya has been lifted by premiere Silicon Valley venture capital firms Kleiner Perkins Caufield & Byers and Mayfield Fund. Both are lending their credibility; Kleiner’s Bing Gordon is joining the Ouya board. Their money will let Ouya make more consoles that will seem like a bargain to console fans — at $99 for the hardware and tons of free-to-try Android games.If Ouya hits its targets, it may be able to raise more money as it needs it. Julie Uhrman, the chief executive of Ouya, told GamesBeat, “What I love about Bing is that he is not constrained by conventional thinking and is a great supporter of game developers.”

We’re not sure what the valuation was, but Ouya just got a lot more expensive as a potential acquisition. Nintendo should have grabbed it while it had the chance. Nintendo, meanwhile, had its window to sell Wii U game consoles during the last six months. It had a shortage of hits, and the big games from top publishers either didn’t materialize or didn’t sell well. Nintendo generated some good digital revenue through the app store on the Wii U platform, but it hasn’t had a huge breakout hit on that front.


Now the Wii U is dead in the water. Nintendo sold 3.45 million Wii U consoles as of March 31, and since December, Nintendo sold just 390,000 Wii Us. That’s a horrible start for a new game console, and it must be viewed in this context: Apple sold 56 million iPhones and iPads in one quarter.

As Apple was gathering steam, Nintendo was resting on its laurels and watching the money come in from the Wii. It squandered a chance to do something about the situation. Somehow, with the design of its new console, Nintendo whiffed, and it is in the process of moving from No. 1 in consoles sold in a generation to No. 3 or maybe even No. 4.



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Gordon said in an interview this week, “My own take on Nintendo is that the Wii was a spectacular head fake.” But Microsoft’s Kinect and its Xbox Live service have staked out the high end of the game business. Sony, by comparison, “is starting to look like the new Sega of the game business,” Gordon said. That means that it may soon exit hardware, as Sega did with the ill-fated Dreamcast.

“Once you have a tablet, there is not much reason to buy a Nintendo,” Gordon said. “What they have left is the Miyamoto exclusive box. If you want his games, then you spend the $300 on whatever Miyamoto makes. But that’s a box for tens of millions, not hundreds of millions.”

Gaf is naturally salty about both statements but Nintendo one is pretty good.

Miyamoto box :bow2

As for Ouya acquisition,nah that would be silly.On the other hand $99 Miyamoto box...hmm

$350 Miyamoto box = lol

Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on May 11, 2013, 05:05:40 AM
NPD will track Ouya,right?
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Human Snorenado on May 11, 2013, 05:10:38 AM
Quote from: Borys on May 10, 2013, 08:49:20 AM
Guacamelee! deserves every sale it got and then some. It's my GOTY, yes it is even better than Bioshock Infinite.

GOTY awarded in May of a year with next gen machines launching.  Truly a Polish thing.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Human Snorenado on May 11, 2013, 05:19:27 AM
Quote from: maxy on May 11, 2013, 05:05:40 AM
NPD will track Ouya,right?

What's there to track?  I actually kind of hope they do, so all of these fucking fetishists realize how statistically insignificant they are and go hide back under their fucking rocks.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Don Flamenco on May 11, 2013, 08:47:11 AM
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Against the might of Nintendo, Ouya seemed like an ant. Sure, it had raised $8.6 million in crowdfunding on Kickstarter, but to put out a real game console in lots of retail stores takes a huge investment. It had no credibility even with all of the support from indie game developers who didn’t have the cash to make big-budget console games.

Now the scales may be tipping.


Out of all the "new fierce competitor is poised to take on Nintendo" articles I've read, this one is probably the most ridiculous.


How many dumb investment firms have thought they could just buy their way in the game market and take over? 
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: pilonv1 on May 11, 2013, 08:50:07 AM
Quote from: maxy on May 11, 2013, 05:05:40 AM
NPD will track Ouya,right?

Depends if Ouya Hut provides their data
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Great Rumbler on May 11, 2013, 09:27:00 AM
Quote from: maxy on May 11, 2013, 04:20:56 AM
http://venturebeat.com/2013/05/10/the-deanbeat-why-nintendo-should-have-bought-ouya-and-other-might-have-beens/
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Against the might of Nintendo, Ouya seemed like an ant. Sure, it had raised $8.6 million in crowdfunding on Kickstarter, but to put out a real game console in lots of retail stores takes a huge investment. It had no credibility even with all of the support from indie game developers who didn’t have the cash to make big-budget console games.

Now the scales may be tipping.

:heh
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: bork on May 11, 2013, 12:55:07 PM
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Here are the latest Media Create Console Hardware Sales in Japan for the week of Apr 29 - May 05, 3DS sold 76k this week, followed by PS Vita, sold 22k, and PS3, sold 17k units....
Platform   This week   YTD
3DS LL   50,190   992,513
3DS    26,273   577,287
PS Vita   22,051   427,960
PS3      17,415   380,772
Wii U   13,173   281,960
PSP      8,443   250,347
Wii    2,238   34,643
XB360      596   12,177

What are people buying on Vita?  It's #2 after the 3DS this week, yet there's no games in the top 10.  PhotoKano is #14.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Don Flamenco on May 11, 2013, 02:07:34 PM
PSO2?

or did something hatsune miku related come out 
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Trent Dole on May 11, 2013, 07:05:44 PM
Uh, F came out a while ago so it ain't that. Miku's in another rpg or whatever every week it seems lately. The day her outfit was out on PSO2 the in game monitors had a promo for a new fucking PSP game that she's in.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on May 12, 2013, 06:06:53 AM
http://www.tomsguide.com/us/Next-Generation-Bobby-Kotick-Xbox-PlayStation-Wii-U,news-17021.html

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“There are still many unknown factors, such as pricing, launch dates and quantities, the level of first-party support and, importantly, consumer purchase intent in a world where consoles are no longer just competing with each other, but also with new platforms, such as smartphones and tablets," said Activision CEO Bobby Kotick.

Not only are next-gen consoles competing with each other and mobile devices, but a wave of Android consoles are set to arrive in June like the OUYA and Nvidia's Project Shield. Throw in the fact that customers can purchase a high performance desktop or notebook at a low price – and they do more than just play games, movies and TV shows – and there's a wider arena than just the Big Three duking it out at Walmart. It's a different playing field than it was three or four years ago.

Kotick, who spoke during the company's recent Q1 2013 Earning conference call, hinted that Microsoft and Sony will likely face the same challenges as Nintendo has faced since the Holiday 2012 season. So far the back half of 2013 looks more "challenging" than previously expected.

"While we have had a solid start to the year, we now believe that the risks and uncertainties in the back half of 2013 are more challenging than our earlier view, especially in the holiday quarter," said Kotick. "The shift in release dates of competing products, the disappointing launch of the Wii U, uncertainties regarding next-generation hardware, and subscriber declines in our World of Warcraft business all raise concerns, as do continued challenges in the global economy."

Because of this, Activision will remain cautious. "The newest console, the Wii U, has had a very slow start,” Kotick added later. "All of these factors further heighten our concerns heading into the back half of the year, particularly during the very competitive fourth quarter."

At this point both consoles remind me of Vita year or two before (Japan)release.

It will sell in Japan,possibly even dominate

PSP is very popular
It will have MH
powah
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nothing can go wrong

...
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Momo on May 12, 2013, 01:29:32 PM
Quote from: bork laser on May 11, 2013, 12:55:07 PM
PhotoKano is #14.
Oh god they made a game out of this :maf
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Great Rumbler on May 12, 2013, 01:31:55 PM
Quote from: Momo on May 12, 2013, 01:29:32 PM
Quote from: bork laser on May 11, 2013, 12:55:07 PM
PhotoKano is #14.
Oh god they made a game out of this :maf

Yeah, and it's exactly what you imagine it would be.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Momo on May 12, 2013, 02:12:15 PM
Quote from: Great Rumbler on May 12, 2013, 01:31:55 PM
Quote from: Momo on May 12, 2013, 01:29:32 PM
Quote from: bork laser on May 11, 2013, 12:55:07 PM
PhotoKano is #14.
Oh god they made a game out of this :maf

Yeah, and it's exactly what you imagine it would be.
(http://i.imgur.com/YB6BNer.gif)
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: bork on May 12, 2013, 08:21:09 PM
Quote from: Momo on May 12, 2013, 01:29:32 PM
Quote from: bork laser on May 11, 2013, 12:55:07 PM
PhotoKano is #14.
Oh god they made a game out of this :maf

Of course they did...it was a game before it was your favorite anime.   :expert
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Don Flamenco on May 12, 2013, 09:29:23 PM
kano means girlfriend?

(http://i.imgur.com/6HC10mi.png)


hmmm
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Don Flamenco on May 12, 2013, 10:00:34 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on May 12, 2013, 09:40:55 PM
Girlfriend is kanojou.  They might be doing something cheeky with the title because kanno means inspiration.

Joke ruined!


ruined like my innocence when I looked up what that game was  :'(

oh no wait, what the fuck am i saying, i saw a pic of a dude fucking a pony plush yesterday
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Flannel Boy on May 12, 2013, 10:52:15 PM
What kind of perverted and depraved site would have such a pic? 
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Momo on May 13, 2013, 01:22:50 AM
Quote from: bork laser on May 12, 2013, 08:21:09 PM
Quote from: Momo on May 12, 2013, 01:29:32 PM
Quote from: bork laser on May 11, 2013, 12:55:07 PM
PhotoKano is #14.
Oh god they made a game out of this :maf

Of course they did...it was a game before it was your favorite anime.   :expert
(http://i.imgur.com/Q7D7rKi.gif)
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on May 13, 2013, 10:02:59 AM
(http://abload.de/img/capturetmuyl.png)


 :obama
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Stoney Mason on May 15, 2013, 12:22:20 PM
(http://abload.de/img/capture2gckzu.png)
(http://abload.de/img/capture553kycf.png)

https://www.ubisoftgroup.com/comsite_common/en-US/images/Ubisoft%20slide%20show%20FY13%20finaltcm9996991.pdf
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Don Flamenco on May 15, 2013, 12:29:03 PM
what does "more regional" mean in that S-E tweet?  Like more japan exclusive stuff?   :'(
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Joe Molotov on May 15, 2013, 12:31:46 PM
Ubisoft: "Find something that works, then hammer it into the ground."
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Rufus on May 15, 2013, 12:40:17 PM
It's what works, apparently.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Steve Contra on May 15, 2013, 12:42:10 PM
Quote from: Joe Molotov on May 15, 2013, 12:31:46 PM
Ubisoft: "Find something that works, then hammer it into the ground."
The Nintendo Gameplan
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on May 15, 2013, 12:48:24 PM
(http://abload.de/img/marketshare02u04.png)

(http://abload.de/img/captureooozzk89.png)

Finaly  :hyper :drool
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Don Flamenco on May 15, 2013, 02:09:39 PM
a fan ubisoft games, is that what a core gamer is?   
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on May 16, 2013, 06:48:33 PM
Copied from GAF:

(http://abload.de/img/1368739565123ujc.jpg)

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Xbox 360 continues to hold the number one spot in the U.S., selling more units in April than any other console; marking the 28th consecutive month as the best-selling console in the U.S.

April 2013 NPD highlights:
· Holding 42 percent share of current-generation console sales, Xbox 360 sold 130,000 units in April, maintaining the number-one console spot in the U.S. (Source: NPD Group, April 2013)

· Total retail spend on the Xbox 360 platform in April (hardware, software and accessories) reached $208 million, the most for any console in the U.S. (Source: NPD Group, April 2013)

· During the month of April, Xbox 360 held six of the top 10 console game titles including: “NBA 2K13,” “Dead Island: Riptide,” “BioShock Infinite,” Defiance,” Injustice: Gods Among Us” and “Call of Duty: Black Ops 2.” Source: NPD Group, April 2013)


Looking forward to next week, Tuesday, May 21 will mark the beginning of a new generation of games, TV and entertainment. On that day, Microsoft will hold a special press event on the Xbox Campus at 10 a.m. PST and we invite you to join us via the live global stream that will be available on Xbox LIVE, Xbox.com and live on Spike TV in the U.S. and Canada.

Then, on June 10 at 9:30 a.m. PST, Microsoft will continue the conversation and showcase our full lineup of blockbuster games at the Xbox E3 media briefing at The Galen Center in Los Angeles. The briefing will air live on Spike TV in the U.S. and Canada and on Xbox.com and Xbox LIVE globally.

https://twitter.com/gamespot/status/335160218428264448

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April NPD data is in: Injustice: Gods Among Us was the month's top-selling title; total industry sales slide 25 percent to $495.2 million.

What a fucking trainwreck.  Can't wait to see what the Wii U ends up selling.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Himu on May 16, 2013, 06:52:35 PM
25%? What came out in April last year?
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on May 16, 2013, 06:53:17 PM
Quote from: Formerly Known As Himuro on May 16, 2013, 06:52:35 PM
25%? What came out in April last year?

25% fewer iPad games
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Don Flamenco on May 16, 2013, 07:37:12 PM
looks rough, wonder how much injustice sold
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Purple Filth on May 16, 2013, 07:40:01 PM
Oscar must be masturbating right now  :P


Seriously though that data sounds fucking terrible
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on May 16, 2013, 07:53:02 PM
don't worry. generational transitions are always difficult. this is just a temporary speedbump on the road to PS4 and Xbox Loop. there is no such thing as an iPhone.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: mjemirzian on May 16, 2013, 08:06:44 PM
Sad news, but gaming will endure.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Himu on May 16, 2013, 08:07:12 PM
Quote from: Howard Alan Treesong on May 16, 2013, 06:53:17 PM
Quote from: Formerly Known As Himuro on May 16, 2013, 06:52:35 PM
25%? What came out in April last year?

25% fewer iPad games

 :lol
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: pilonv1 on May 16, 2013, 08:23:59 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on May 16, 2013, 07:52:58 PM
Hahaha hooooooly shit, everyone has got to be praying hard this is just generational fatigue, that's fucking horrible

Wait til the rest of it comes out
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Flannel Boy on May 16, 2013, 09:05:14 PM
If we had a competition this month, Borys would have won, right?

Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Pringo on May 16, 2013, 09:05:43 PM
From GAF:

Quote
The percentage in MS PR is include WiiU.

360>ps3>100k>50k>Wii>40k>WiiU>30k
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Flannel Boy on May 16, 2013, 09:07:06 PM
Please undersell.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: cool breeze on May 16, 2013, 09:12:13 PM
Wii U between 40k and 33k.  Vita below 20k.

it's like I'm part of an exclusive club who owns both!
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: archie4208 on May 16, 2013, 09:29:38 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on May 16, 2013, 07:52:58 PM
Hahaha hooooooly shit, everyone has got to be praying hard this is just generational fatigue, that's fucking horrible

Looks like PC gaming will prevail yet again.  :smug
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Father_Brain on May 16, 2013, 09:35:22 PM
Quote from: Howard Alan Treesong on May 16, 2013, 07:53:02 PM
don't worry. generational transitions are always difficult. this is just a temporary speedbump on the road to PS4 and Xbox Loop. there is no such thing as an iPhone.

We live in interesting times.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Phoenix Dark on May 16, 2013, 09:47:05 PM
So the math says around 35k WiiUs for the month :rofl

I'm going to wet myself if Nintendo reveals WiiFit tomorrow and Ntards get excited
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on May 16, 2013, 09:57:20 PM
Holy fucking shit at those Wii U numbers.

No wonder EA wants nothing to do with that system.  I can expect others to follow suit.  I hope to hell Nintendo has more than just a modest price cut and a 3D Mario.

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Nintendo April Numbers:
-Lego City 3DS: 94K digital and physical combined
-Luigi’s Mansion: Dark Moon: 140K digital and physical combined

Nintendo LTD Numbers:
-Luigi’s Mansion: Dark Moon: 530K digital and physical combined LTD
-New Super Mario Bros. U: 770K digital and physical combined LTD

lolz
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Purple Filth on May 16, 2013, 10:34:46 PM
Quote from: fryinghigh on May 16, 2013, 09:12:13 PM
Wii U between 40k and 33k.  Vita below 20k.

it's like I'm part of an exclusive club who owns both!

(http://chicksinthehuddle.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/to-crying-210x300.jpg)
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Flannel Boy on May 16, 2013, 10:35:55 PM
Quote from: The Experiment on May 16, 2013, 09:57:20 PM

No wonder EA wants nothing to do with that system.  I can expect others to follow suit.  I hope to hell Nintendo has more than just a modest price cut and a 3D Mario.

There's Game & Wario!
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Don Flamenco on May 16, 2013, 10:58:59 PM
Quote from: Purple Filth on May 16, 2013, 10:34:46 PM
Quote from: fryinghigh on May 16, 2013, 09:12:13 PM
Wii U between 40k and 33k.  Vita below 20k.

it's like I'm part of an exclusive club who owns both!

(http://chicksinthehuddle.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/to-crying-210x300.jpg)



(http://i.imgur.com/lwdvyu5.gif)
just wait for e3 just wait for e3 just wait for e3
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Himu on May 16, 2013, 11:03:47 PM
Jesus fucking Christ, I am watching the industry burn and I don't even give a shit.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Don Flamenco on May 16, 2013, 11:07:07 PM
Quote from: Formerly Known As Himuro on May 16, 2013, 11:03:47 PM
Jesus fucking Christ, I am watching the industry burn and I don't even give a shit.


cause we got more than enough good games to last several lifetimes


but new stuff would be nice... :teehee
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: mjemirzian on May 16, 2013, 11:13:05 PM
I would care, but I've got a backlog that would probably take the rest of my life to work through already.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: tiesto on May 17, 2013, 12:14:01 AM
Quote from: Formerly Known As Himuro on May 16, 2013, 11:03:47 PM
Jesus fucking Christ, I am watching the industry burn and I don't even give a shit.

Same here, but it could've at least given me Phantasy Star 5 and Skies of Arcadia 2 before it decided to kick the bucket.

I guess that's the good thing about being an RPG fan - a neverending backlog of long-ass games to play.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Eel O'Brian on May 17, 2013, 12:20:52 AM
at this point nintendo probably ought to consider a wii u hail mary rebranding/relaunch, or start outlining an exit strategy for it
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Phoenix Dark on May 17, 2013, 12:35:51 AM
Quote from: Formerly Known As Himuro on May 16, 2013, 11:03:47 PM
Jesus fucking Christ, I am watching the industry burn and I don't even give a shit.

The industry is doomed after nearly decade old consoles are starting to slow down, with the next gen on the horizon?

I agree with Anihawk on GAF. Nintendo should probably kill the WiiU next year and start over, with some system that mixes console and handheld gaming (to consolidate brands). Actually put some effort into the Virtual Console thing, and just release games nonstop.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Trent Dole on May 17, 2013, 12:39:45 AM
Quote from: tiesto on May 17, 2013, 12:14:01 AM
Quote from: Formerly Known As Himuro on May 16, 2013, 11:03:47 PM
Jesus fucking Christ, I am watching the industry burn and I don't even give a shit.

Same here, but it could've at least given me Phantasy Star 5 and Skies of Arcadia 2 before it decided to kick the bucket.

I guess that's the good thing about being an RPG fan - a neverending backlog of long-ass games to play.
You want Sega to do a smart sensible thing? That's not happened for a while now and isn't likely to anytime soon.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Raban on May 17, 2013, 12:42:56 AM
Quote from: Phoenix Dark on May 17, 2013, 12:35:51 AM
Nintendo should probably [..] Actually put some effort in
:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Stoney Mason on May 17, 2013, 01:10:05 AM
Wii U has turned into a disaster of proportions even I didn't expect. TIme for them to focus on the more kid-centric and kid friendly handheld market going forward in the US I would expect.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Human Snorenado on May 17, 2013, 01:26:41 AM
sub 40k wii u sales?

(http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/250x250/37341936.jpg)

Am I the only one enjoying the death of the console industry?
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Himu on May 17, 2013, 01:29:44 AM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on May 17, 2013, 12:58:38 AM
an offline old-style phantasy star and a sequel to skies of arcadia aren't really what i would call smart and sensible things.  i would call them fanservice, and sega's lost more than enough money going down that road to last a lifetime.  fun facts about those two series: phantasy star portable (the first psp phantasy star) is the highest selling installment of the entire series, by leaps and bounds.  skies of arcadia sold under 200k on DC and even less on GC.

smart and sensible sega looks a lot like the sega of the last year.  i mean, minus porting stupid dreamcast shit like jet set radio that nobody cares about.

Fuck you. I hope you include Nights in this.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Himu on May 17, 2013, 01:39:43 AM
Well I don't know. I can't get behind the idea that putting up your old games up in digital form is a waste. I mean how much would it even cost? Saturn and DC emulation is spot on these days. I'm pretty sure they recouped their cost of even doing that port. The same isn't true for jsr, which has hefty licensing of music like DRAGULAAAAA.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Himu on May 17, 2013, 01:48:32 AM
Oh, I agree. At this point, anyone who wants or expects Sega to make sequels to games like Skies of Arcadia or Phantasy Star (offline) or especially Shenmue is off their handle and fucking insane and probably not living in reality. Even I, as big a Shenmue fan as I am, could give two fucks about Shenmue III. It's not happening, if it does happen, it won't be under Sega's bill, and I'm not asking for it nor am I expecting it.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Raban on May 17, 2013, 01:56:00 AM
I would actually like a smart and sensible SEGA. I'd rather have a SEGA that didn't give a shit about fan service than no SEGA at all. It's a bit perplexing how SEGA fans continue to be responsible for their favorite company's demise despite being so outspoken, at least that's the impression I get.

The most outstanding story for me was when SEGA of America basically poured everything into Yakuza and had it blow up in their faces. I missed that game upon release, but playing it recently I was stunned by the production value. They seem(ed) to be a well-meaning games publisher, but maybe that's their problem.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Himu on May 17, 2013, 02:01:00 AM
Part of Yakuza's problem:

1. Dub (many people in my Yakuza gaf threads would say they aren't buying it because of the dub in the trailer and demo), and localization.
2. Poor publicity. I saw not one single commercial for Yakuza and I thought it could have done well with a modicum of advertising. When a game like Shadows of the Colossus sells the way it does, no way is a game where you curb stomp fuckers going to bomb with a decent ad campaign.
3. The name. The original name translated in English is far cooler, resonates with martial arts movie fans, and is more relevant than..."Yakuza", especially since, afaik, like in Yak 4, it doesn't star an entirely Yakuza cast.

Also, I don't think porting ten year old games is going to kill Sega but that's me.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Raban on May 17, 2013, 02:03:52 AM
It just seems that SEGA has historically tried to appease the people who love it, but they end up hurt every time. They're the victim of an abusive marriage :lol If SEGA stopped, it'd be like they finally built up the courage to walk away.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Himu on May 17, 2013, 02:07:58 AM
God, Yakuza 2 was so baller. :noah Gonna have to catch up on my Kiryu Simulator sometime soon. I got 3 and 4 sitting here but I still have to sort out my psn issues with sony.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Himu on May 17, 2013, 02:09:40 AM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on May 17, 2013, 02:08:31 AM
Yakuza was never going to fly in North America.  Positioning it as a Japanese GTA was absolutely disastrous, because it is not that, at all.  But even properly marketed, I don't think there's any real place for it.  Even in film, extremely high quality gangster movies made in Asia seem to need to be reshot with whiteys to get any attention.

Too many what-ifs here, but the GTA in Japan thing I think to my memory was more created by the western press than Sega of America/Europe.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Himu on May 17, 2013, 02:24:20 AM
:obama

I just thought they made shit up. That's how much I respect them.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on May 17, 2013, 02:51:53 AM
Market saturation after 8 years who would have thought it
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on May 17, 2013, 03:58:50 AM
Its hard to say if people will want Durnago/PS4, but Im pretty sure not matter how bad they will do 2/3 times Wii U numbers.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on May 17, 2013, 06:03:52 AM
That said I don't subscribe to the end of videogames newsletter, just a change in the current landscape.

I still think Wii U could have been a homerun if the pad would have been a fully functional tablet as well, that way it could have been sold as My First Tablet etc.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: archie4208 on May 17, 2013, 06:14:56 AM
Oscar-chan, where do you see the industry in 5 years?  Just curious to see your opinion.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on May 17, 2013, 06:27:13 AM
Im not Oscar but I imagine it will be like getting of a bus in a tourist destination in the third world being assaulted by poor salesman that actually might have something you want, but you just want to look around on your own.

For every person that ignored their in face approach (iap) there will be one that bites.

Maybe I'm just talking about iOS and Android stores.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on May 17, 2013, 06:34:53 AM
Quote from: Phoenix Dark on May 17, 2013, 12:35:51 AM
Quote from: Formerly Known As Himuro on May 16, 2013, 11:03:47 PM
Jesus fucking Christ, I am watching the industry burn and I don't even give a shit.

The industry is doomed after nearly decade old consoles are starting to slow down, with the next gen on the horizon?

I agree with Anihawk on GAF. Nintendo should probably kill the WiiU next year and start over, with some system that mixes console and handheld gaming (to consolidate brands). Actually put some effort into the Virtual Console thing, and just release games nonstop.

I suspect Nintendo will pull a Gamecube and leave the Wii U to fend for itself once they pump out their obligatory Mario, Mario Kart, and Zelda.  Nintendo is kind of screwed here: nothing they can do at this point will probably salvage the Wii U, as it is selling well below the Gamecube.  However they can't just kill it off in 2014 and then put out something new in 2015, aka pulling a Sega.  So I suspect that they will just leave it alone after 2014 and release a successor either in 2016 or 2017.

I can see Nintendo putting out another console because Nintendo probably needs both handheld and console streams of revenue to survive.  Sony (although barely thriving) and Microsoft have many other products, it'd be nothing for them to discontinue the PlayStation and Xbox.  However getting rid of a major part of their business would kill a company like Nintendo.  That and the 4DS will probably still look like fucking shit on a TV.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on May 17, 2013, 08:31:43 AM
Whatever happens, I just want Iwata, Reggie, and Miyamoto to leave in disgrace.  Because I'm like that.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Joe Molotov on May 17, 2013, 08:38:08 AM
Quote from: Eel O'Brian on May 17, 2013, 12:20:52 AM
at this point nintendo probably ought to consider a wii u hail mary rebranding/relaunch, or start outlining an exit strategy for it

Allow you to sync your Vita with your WiiU and use it as a Gamepad and play your VC roms on it.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: archie4208 on May 17, 2013, 08:41:00 AM
I'm kinda iffy on Activision.  World of Warcraft is on a permanent decline, and I believe Black Ops 2 sold less than Modern Warfare 3 so Call of Duty might not be the king forever.  Titan and Destiny are wildcards.  Titan has been hyped for over 5 years, but there is very little info about it.  If it can become the next big thing, Activision will be sitting pretty.  Destiny, I'm not so sure of.  I think it'll end up performing 'ok', but won't set the world on fire.

Tencent, for better or worse, is going to be a major player in the upcoming years.  Looking at their financials, their games division is just as large as EA and Activision.  They hit a grand slam buying Riot and are heavily invested in Epic.  I wouldn't be surprised to see them make more western acquisitions in the future.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Don Flamenco on May 17, 2013, 09:36:37 AM
I wonder if Titan development had to be overhauled when they realized the sub-model is risky.


Quote from: Joe Molotov on May 17, 2013, 08:38:08 AM
Quote from: Eel O'Brian on May 17, 2013, 12:20:52 AM
at this point nintendo probably ought to consider a wii u hail mary rebranding/relaunch, or start outlining an exit strategy for it

Allow you to sync your Vita with your WiiU and use it as a Gamepad and play your VC roms on it.


ya know i might...actually...nah.   VC only has 1 game.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: archie4208 on May 17, 2013, 09:39:11 AM
The sub model is dead.  The only games that can survive on subs are World of Warcraft and very niche stuff like EVE Online.  SE is going to have a rude awakening when FF14 relaunches.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on May 17, 2013, 09:45:58 AM
Sony should make PS+ a service that can be accessed on ALL platforms and cover all media. I guess the Gaikai purchase might make this possible.

Having a PS+ sub should get you games, movies, music on your PS, phone, tablet, pc, xbox, wii etc.

Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Steve Contra on May 17, 2013, 01:48:37 PM
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=57962960&postcount=1710 (http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=57962960&postcount=1710)

 :lol
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Himu on May 17, 2013, 03:02:32 PM
Atlus - gone, IP/name absorbed by SEGA, Konami, or SE.

WHERE'S MY TO CRY
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Mr. Gundam on May 17, 2013, 03:21:23 PM
Quote from: Formerly Known As Himuro on May 17, 2013, 03:02:32 PM
Atlus - gone, IP/name absorbed by SEGA, Konami, or SE.

WHERE'S MY TO CRY

?
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Steve Contra on May 17, 2013, 04:42:19 PM
I believe Himu is amending Oscar's post about the industry in 5 years, 5 years after Oscar posted it.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Purple Filth on May 17, 2013, 04:43:32 PM
Quote from: Formerly Known As Himuro on May 17, 2013, 03:02:32 PM
Atlus - gone, IP/name absorbed by SEGA, Konami, or SE.

WHERE'S MY TO CRY

this will have to do I guess

(http://chicksinthehuddle.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/to-crying-210x300.jpg)
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Himu on May 17, 2013, 04:56:00 PM
Quote from: Mr. Gundam on May 17, 2013, 03:21:23 PM
Quote from: Formerly Known As Himuro on May 17, 2013, 03:02:32 PM
Atlus - gone, IP/name absorbed by SEGA, Konami, or SE.

WHERE'S MY TO CRY

?

Read Oscar's post.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: MCD on May 17, 2013, 05:35:11 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/n12dyod.jpg)

http://news.xbox.com/2013/05/x360-aaron-greenberg-industry-growth

Gaming is fine. Grooch's doom and gloom is not very effective.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Steve Contra on May 17, 2013, 05:43:26 PM
Ummmm, Oscar's doom and gloom is mostly about the console industry, which is not at all fine. 
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Human Snorenado on May 17, 2013, 05:53:59 PM
Quote from: Steve Contra on May 17, 2013, 05:43:26 PM
Ummmm, Oscar's doom and gloom is mostly about the console industry, which is not at all fine.

Basically this.  No one is saying people won't be playing "games" 5 or 10 years from now.  Just that you'll be doing it on either a pc or a handheld device.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Phoenix Dark on May 17, 2013, 05:55:28 PM
I don't think the console industry is fine, but again...we've been in this generation for nearly a decade. I see no reason to believe that the next generation will be some giant disaster. Will people go out of business? Sure, but that happened this gen as well - and is a risk of business.

I think both the PS4 and 720 will be successful. Whether they manage to become true entertainment hubs is the only question I have; currently I doubt it, but I'll wait to see which Xbox rumors are true/bullshit.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Steve Contra on May 17, 2013, 06:07:05 PM
If MCD had bothered to read all those power point slides (which isn't that hard, I mean they're fucking powerpoint slides) he'd see that one has Generation 7 (360, ps3, and Wii) as the biggest yet, and another slide that has the next gen growing 28% for that!  Wow, right?  Except the first Gen 8 console has been an abysmal failure compared to it's predecessor, which is basically responsible for Gen 7 growing at all.  So basically they expect 28% growth from the 2 other consoles on top of what they have make up for the failure of the WiiU.  Sound logic!
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: MCD on May 17, 2013, 06:10:37 PM
You actually read that?
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Steve Contra on May 17, 2013, 06:11:52 PM
It took me like 1 minute to read and comprehend.  Probably shorter than you posting the chart and a link.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: MCD on May 17, 2013, 06:16:29 PM
lol

I was actually listening to Nelson and Greenberg talking about it here: https://soundcloud.com/xbox/show-476-video-gaming-industry

I don't have any hard ass sales data as Oscar but I still see console gaming going strong for at least two more generations.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on May 17, 2013, 06:17:27 PM
I see console gaming going strong for about 2 more weeks

#XboxReveal
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: MCD on May 17, 2013, 06:18:34 PM
Only On Xbox
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Steve Contra on May 17, 2013, 06:19:12 PM
Major Nelson and Aaron Greenberg can certainly be counted on for REAL TALK when it comes to the console business.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Himu on May 17, 2013, 06:19:56 PM
Are gamers really going to fall for more first person shooters next Gen? They aren't tired of that yet?
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on May 17, 2013, 06:23:32 PM
Quote from: Steve Contra on May 17, 2013, 06:19:12 PM
Major Nelson and Aaron Greenberg can certainly be counted on for REAL TALK when it comes to the console business.

are you suggesting they might have an agenda in pumping up console industry confidence 5 days before Microsoft's next Xbox announcement

how dare you sir
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Steve Contra on May 17, 2013, 06:25:51 PM
Why would an army major have a stake in the console industry?
Title: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Huff on May 17, 2013, 06:26:50 PM
Keeps the troops from going on murderous rampages
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on May 17, 2013, 06:32:33 PM
Kickbacks from EA gun licensing
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: tiesto on May 18, 2013, 01:07:06 AM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on May 17, 2013, 12:58:38 AM
an offline old-style phantasy star and a sequel to skies of arcadia aren't really what i would call smart and sensible things.  i would call them fanservice, and sega's lost more than enough money going down that road to last a lifetime.  fun facts about those two series: phantasy star portable (the first psp phantasy star) is the highest selling installment of the entire series, by leaps and bounds.  skies of arcadia sold under 200k on DC and even less on GC.

smart and sensible sega looks a lot like the sega of the last year.  i mean, minus porting stupid dreamcast shit like jet set radio that nobody cares about.

Ehh, if the whole industry is going to hell in a handbasket, why not go out in a blaze of glory instead of prolonging your death?
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: MCD on May 20, 2013, 02:26:04 PM
http://kotaku.com/what-the-next-playstation-and-xbox-need-to-get-right-508830626

Know it's Kotaku but ignoring that, it's a good read by John Riccitiello.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Human Snorenado on May 20, 2013, 03:04:18 PM
Someone 'shop Gaben's head onto a phoenix
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Don Flamenco on May 20, 2013, 03:26:25 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/iSeZbtJ.jpg)
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: DCharlieJP on May 20, 2013, 05:00:07 PM
Again - i'm going against the grain here but after churning it over and over i expect surprisingly good peformance from x720 and ps4.

Vita and 3ds performance can be attributed to direct comparisons to iphone and ipads - cost wise its a big chunk of change in terms of game price and unit price when you already have a phone and a glut of cheapo games on tap

WiiU ? Casual gamers got phones and ipads and , as they were touristing it up in Nintendoville, the collosal failure with WiiU is down to Nintendos complete inability to retain the casual market they established. So they have ended up targetting Nintendo fans and the 6 people left who didnt bother with next gen since 2006. Its a thin demographic and the price of the unit is wrong wrong wrong. Plus - little compeling software.

x360 sales are starting to trend down, ps3 has had a bit of a rally - the question is down to price differentials and whether gamers see an actual difference or not. As mentioned - i expect so very creative pricing models this time around to get machines into peoples hands with as limited amount of upfront pain as possible. So fuck it - calling it now - both machines to shock in a positive way in terms of sales.

(This is a kissof death, isnt it?)
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on May 20, 2013, 05:06:56 PM
I think they will do well because they won't be marketed strictly as gaming machines.  For instance, I strongly suspect Xbox will be marketed as a social media box that just so happens to play games.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Bebpo on May 20, 2013, 07:07:55 PM
Purely anecdotal, but everyone I talk to IRL has no interest in a 3ds/vita/whatever. 

But if they had a PS3, they plan to get a PS4
If they had an Xbox360, they plan to get a Nextbox360

If they had a Wii, ...well most of them didn't actually like core games in the first place and just picked it up for something to mess around with for a month for social gatherings & smash bros.  So they've moved on to phone gaming or browser gaming, or non-gaming and such.


I think Sony/MS will do fine as long as the entry prices aren't ridiculous.  Most people satisfied with their X360/PS3 are probably gonna upgrade since it's been forever and all the new hot games will be on the sequel systems.

There's still a market for having a "video game system" at home, to play all the big AAA games on once in a while.  Unless those millions of copies of AC/CoD/etc... are lying.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Mr. Gundam on May 20, 2013, 07:24:56 PM
I'm leaning about 75% toward a PS4 due to the Japan-centric titles (Gundam, SRW, mecha, Final Fantasy, JRPGs, etc.) that will probably be there. If they announce region-free capabilities, I'm 100% in. I just don't see Microsoft going after the Japanese developers that cater to my tastes like they did with the 360. Definitely not buying on day one, though. Probably won't pick one up until sometime in 2014.

And handhelds still do nothing for me anymore.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on May 20, 2013, 07:36:08 PM
yeah, I'll probably get a PS4 because of J-devs and because SCEA 1st party > MS 1st party in my book

but barring a MEGATON announce I don't see myself dying to get a Nextbox
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Positive Touch on May 20, 2013, 11:20:17 PM
if someone can make a smartphone multiplayer action game that doesnt suck and appeals to dudes desires to kill foreigners, thats a wrap for consoles
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on May 21, 2013, 08:33:57 AM
Theres plenty of those BUT touch controls SO you still need a pc/console to kill foreigners enemy combatants
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Don Flamenco on May 21, 2013, 09:30:27 AM
the game should allow you to select which foreigners enemy combatant army you want to kill and have many to choose from-- the asian army, the african army, the arab army, etc.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Joe Molotov on May 21, 2013, 09:36:20 AM
Quote from: Don Flamenco on May 21, 2013, 09:30:27 AM
the game should allow you to select which foreigners enemy combatant army you want to kill and have many to choose from-- the asian army, the african army, the arab army, etc.

Gay army, Mexican army, UN army, etc.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Don Flamenco on May 21, 2013, 09:48:40 AM
Quote from: Joe Molotov on May 21, 2013, 09:36:20 AM
Quote from: Don Flamenco on May 21, 2013, 09:30:27 AM
the game should allow you to select which foreigners enemy combatant army you want to kill and have many to choose from-- the asian army, the african army, the arab army, etc.

Gay army, Mexican army, UN army, etc.


definitely, fit every country in there
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on May 21, 2013, 09:53:21 AM
Also allow for customisation of the enemy so if they miss someone you can stick their face on a model

Community levels etc.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: DCharlieJP on May 21, 2013, 02:51:13 PM
The Xbox reveal was so awful that i'm going to double down on the XONE selling really well

Also- given Acti really knows their audience - i am prepared to bet that an upcoming COD game has a sequence where you have to assassinate the president but it'll be for some "good reason" like , oh i dunno, he was secretly some terrorist or had commited treason... you know... all fiction and definitely not playing to fanbase fantasies.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Don Flamenco on May 21, 2013, 02:53:14 PM
i can't tell if bros will like it or if it will be too complicated for them.  but they definitely want bros pretty hard
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on May 21, 2013, 02:54:22 PM
You will have to kill the president cause he is actually not from the US  :o

spoiler (click to show/hide)
and he is a black muslim gay man
[close]
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Don Flamenco on May 21, 2013, 03:02:38 PM
that'll teach the bastard to try to implement nationalized health care


you shoot him in the head and then bad ass dude says "where's your commie doctor now, ya arab taco?"
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Bebpo on May 29, 2013, 03:10:45 PM
SMTIV opened higher (180k) than SMTIII (150k) and double what Strange Journey (90k) did.  Just a bit behind P4 (210k) in terms of modern megaten sales.


Good for series/developers.  Unfortunately I bet it was the generic animu art that did it (like how Fire Emblem was saved by anime art in the recent game).  So I'm pretty sure Kaneko SMT art is dead and after Devil Survivor 2, SMTIV, and probably P5 being more anime than P4 already was, we're going in a single megaten direction and it's filled to the brim with  :uguu
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on May 29, 2013, 03:21:04 PM
Shin M~uguu~mi Teensei
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Himu on May 29, 2013, 03:35:06 PM
Quote from: Bebpo on May 29, 2013, 03:10:45 PM
SMTIV opened higher (180k) than SMTIII (150k) and double what Strange Journey (90k) did.  Just a bit behind P4 (210k) in terms of modern megaten sales.


Good for series/developers.  Unfortunately I bet it was the generic animu art that did it (like how Fire Emblem was saved by anime art in the recent game).  So I'm pretty sure Kaneko SMT art is dead and after Devil Survivor 2, SMTIV, and probably P5 being more anime than P4 already was, we're going in a single megaten direction and it's filled to the brim with  :uguu

Someone get me a gun so I can eat a lead salad.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Don Flamenco on May 29, 2013, 05:04:57 PM
Quote from: Formerly Known As Himuro on May 29, 2013, 03:35:06 PM
Quote from: Bebpo on May 29, 2013, 03:10:45 PM
SMTIV opened higher (180k) than SMTIII (150k) and double what Strange Journey (90k) did.  Just a bit behind P4 (210k) in terms of modern megaten sales.


Good for series/developers.  Unfortunately I bet it was the generic animu art that did it (like how Fire Emblem was saved by anime art in the recent game).  So I'm pretty sure Kaneko SMT art is dead and after Devil Survivor 2, SMTIV, and probably P5 being more anime than P4 already was, we're going in a single megaten direction and it's filled to the brim with  :uguu

Someone get me a gun so I can eat a lead salad.


Wanna have a suicide party?
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Great Rumbler on May 29, 2013, 07:33:08 PM
Quote from: Don Flamenco on May 29, 2013, 05:04:57 PM
Quote from: Formerly Known As Himuro on May 29, 2013, 03:35:06 PM
Quote from: Bebpo on May 29, 2013, 03:10:45 PM
SMTIV opened higher (180k) than SMTIII (150k) and double what Strange Journey (90k) did.  Just a bit behind P4 (210k) in terms of modern megaten sales.


Good for series/developers.  Unfortunately I bet it was the generic animu art that did it (like how Fire Emblem was saved by anime art in the recent game).  So I'm pretty sure Kaneko SMT art is dead and after Devil Survivor 2, SMTIV, and probably P5 being more anime than P4 already was, we're going in a single megaten direction and it's filled to the brim with  :uguu

Someone get me a gun so I can eat a lead salad.


Wanna have a suicide party?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yu6VGreukFs
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Don Flamenco on May 29, 2013, 08:06:15 PM
It's better to burn out than to fade away
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: chronovore on May 29, 2013, 08:09:08 PM
Quote from: archie4208 on May 17, 2013, 09:39:11 AM
The sub model is dead.  The only games that can survive on subs are World of Warcraft and very niche stuff like EVE Online.  SE is going to have a rude awakening when FF14 relaunches.

...and then blame the lack of profit on all the non-Japanese studios.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: archie4208 on May 29, 2013, 09:52:48 PM
I saw pics Luci.

I was sad. 

I'm sure the gameplay is still great, but ughhhhhhh.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Bebpo on May 30, 2013, 01:32:54 AM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on May 29, 2013, 09:30:58 PM
Quote from: Don Flamenco on May 29, 2013, 08:06:15 PM
It's better to burn out than to fade away

Ehn, the game is still excellent.  I'm not happy Kaneko is probably done, but excellent SMT games with different art are still excellent SMT games.


I agree, buuuuuut I do enjoy it slightly (just slightly) less because the character art is pretty damn awful for megaten.  Devil Survivor's manga-ish art doesn't bother me, nor does the great anime style Soejima art in the modern Persona games, but this guy they got feels amateurish and looks kind of generic anime.  Even Fire Emblem had better anime-style art. 

I kind of hope even if Kaneko art is gone, they at least give the next SMT to a different artist. 
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Purple Filth on June 17, 2013, 06:38:04 PM
Software

Quote
1. Injustice: Gods Among Us (360, PS3, NWU)**
 2. Call of Duty: Black Ops II (360, PS3, PC, NWU)**
 3. Donkey Kong Country Returns (3DS, WII)
 4. Dead Island: Riptide (360, PS3, PC)**
 5. Luigi's Mansion: Dark Moon (3DS)
 6. Metro: Last Light (360, PS3, PC)
 7. NBA 2K13 (360, PS3, WII, NWU, PSP, PC)**
 8. Bioshock Infinite (360, PS3, PC)**
 9. Battlefield 3 (360, PS3, PC)**
 10. Lego Batman 2: DC Super Heroes (360, WII, NDS, PS3, 3DS, NWU, PSV, PC)

 **(includes CE, GOTY editions, bundles, etc. but not those bundled with hardware)


Quote from: Borys on June 17, 2013, 06:35:12 PM
Wow dead thread.

Larry Hryb ‏@majornelson 4m
 #NPD Report Card: In May, #Xbox360 sold 114,00 units in the US.

did it win overall since larry didn't mention their streak.

if it did then that's fucking horrible for the top selling machine this month  :-X
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on June 17, 2013, 06:38:34 PM
Seems like last months

This gen is dead

Ps3 beating 360 :rock
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Human Snorenado on June 17, 2013, 06:38:40 PM
Where are the weeeeoooooooooooo hardware numbers
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: AdmiralViscen on June 17, 2013, 06:40:03 PM
Pretty good sales for a product for people without internet
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Purple Filth on June 17, 2013, 06:43:07 PM
it was

Quote
In May, Xbox 360 sold 114,000 units, more than any other console in the U.S. May marked the 29th consecutive month that Xbox 360 was the best-selling console in the U.S.

 May 2013 NPD highlights:
 · Total retail spend on the Xbox 360 platform in May (hardware, software and accessories) reached $149.8 million, the most for any console in the U.S. (Source: NPD Group, May2013)
 · During the month of May, Xbox 360 held seven of the top 10 console game titles including: “Dead Island: Riptide,” “Injustice: Gods Among Us,” “Metro: Last Light,” NBA 2K13,” Call of Duty: Black Ops II,” “BioShock Infinite” and “Halo 4.” (Source: NPD Group, May2013)

 On May 21, Microsoft introduced the world to Xbox One. Last week at E3, Xbox One showcased a new generation of gaming with exclusive titles like “Forza Motorsport 5,” “Ryse: Son of Rome,” “Killer Instinct,” “Dead Rising 3” and more. In addition, Chief Marketing and Strategy Officer, Yusuf Mehdi, introduced the new Xbox 360 on the Xbox stage, which sports a sleek and stylish design that aligns with the new Xbox One family and will continue to drive Xbox 360 sales.

 The E3 Xbox briefing drove consumer excitement for Xbox One, which has seen impressive pre-order sales; Amazon sold through most of their day one inventory in the first four hours of availability. To reserve your Xbox One system today, and for the full list of launch countries and prices, visit http://www.xbox.com for participating retailers.

 We look forward to sharing further details on Xbox One in the coming months. Please check out Xbox Wire for the latest Xbox One and Xbox 360 news.

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Wii U  :o :o

Vita  :o :o
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Purple Filth on June 17, 2013, 06:49:44 PM
FUSE missing on that fucking list  :lol

Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on June 17, 2013, 06:47:34 PM
You guys forgot the best news.  These are the lowest software sales in 13 years.

Next gen save us  :P


Anything you can share?
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Purple Filth on June 17, 2013, 06:53:30 PM
Quote from: Borys on June 17, 2013, 06:51:37 PM
Fuse probably missed Top Hundred :rofl

Quote from: Purple Filth
Anything you can share?

It's on Patcher's twitter.

Pacther posted WiiU and Vita "numbers"?
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Human Snorenado on June 17, 2013, 06:53:34 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on June 17, 2013, 06:47:34 PM
You guys forgot the best news.  These are the lowest software sales in 13 years.

(http://theswedishbed.files.wordpress.com/2010/03/592360_8ca5f7f005.jpg)
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Purple Filth on June 17, 2013, 06:54:35 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on June 17, 2013, 06:53:22 PM
Quote from: Purple Filth on June 17, 2013, 06:49:44 PM
FUSE missing on that fucking list  :lol

Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on June 17, 2013, 06:47:34 PM
You guys forgot the best news.  These are the lowest software sales in 13 years.

Next gen save us  :P


Anything you can share?

Reggie should be picking up a newspaper to look for a new job.

Along with everyone else in the industry, haw haw

Have some faith Oscar, have some faith.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Steve Contra on June 17, 2013, 06:56:35 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on June 17, 2013, 06:53:22 PM
Quote from: Purple Filth on June 17, 2013, 06:49:44 PM
FUSE missing on that fucking list  :lol

Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on June 17, 2013, 06:47:34 PM
You guys forgot the best news.  These are the lowest software sales in 13 years.

Next gen save us  :P


Anything you can share?

Reggie should be picking up a newspaper to look for a new job.

Along with everyone else in the industry, haw haw
Low current gen sales are just further signs that consumers are ready for the next-gen experience that only the X-Box Onetm can offer. 
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Purple Filth on June 17, 2013, 06:58:17 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on June 17, 2013, 06:57:01 PM
Quote from: Purple Filth on June 17, 2013, 06:54:35 PM

Have some faith Oscar, have some faith.

Oh don't worry, I do

but in which direction though  :lol
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Human Snorenado on June 17, 2013, 06:58:27 PM
Quote from: Steve Contra on June 17, 2013, 06:56:35 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on June 17, 2013, 06:53:22 PM
Quote from: Purple Filth on June 17, 2013, 06:49:44 PM
FUSE missing on that fucking list  :lol

Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on June 17, 2013, 06:47:34 PM
You guys forgot the best news.  These are the lowest software sales in 13 years.

Next gen save us  :P


Anything you can share?

Reggie should be picking up a newspaper to look for a new job.

Along with everyone else in the industry, haw haw
Low current gen sales are just further signs that consumers are ready for the next-gen experience that only the X-Box Onetm can offer.

...maxy?
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Steve Contra on June 17, 2013, 06:59:41 PM
Not Maxy, just a regular consumer excited for the exclusives like Fantasia, Killer Instinct, Call of Duty and Halo on the X-Box Onetm
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Great Rumbler on June 17, 2013, 07:01:03 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on June 17, 2013, 06:47:34 PM
You guys forgot the best news.  These are the lowest software sales in 13 years. 

Get ready for dat Kickstarter/Indie/Euro-Jank/Steam/OUYA future, guys. :jawalrus
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Human Snorenado on June 17, 2013, 07:03:30 PM
Quote from: Steve Contra on June 17, 2013, 06:59:41 PM
Not Maxy, just a regular consumer excited for the exclusives like Fantasia, Killer Instinct, Call of Duty and Halo on the X-Box Onetm

 :what
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Steve Contra on June 17, 2013, 07:04:53 PM
Quote from: Creepy Old Guy on June 17, 2013, 07:03:30 PM
Quote from: Steve Contra on June 17, 2013, 06:59:41 PM
Not Maxy, just a regular consumer excited for the exclusives like Fantasia, Killer Instinct, Call of Duty and Halo on the X-Box Onetm

 :what
:jawalrus
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on June 17, 2013, 07:05:24 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on June 17, 2013, 06:47:34 PM
You guys forgot the best news.  These are the lowest software sales in 13 years.

(http://i.imgur.com/ONfaRcT.jpg)
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on June 17, 2013, 07:09:39 PM
My thoughts on the coming generational shift:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-opY4qcidFk
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: D3RANG3D on June 17, 2013, 07:27:32 PM
Quote from: Great Rumbler on June 17, 2013, 07:01:03 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on June 17, 2013, 06:47:34 PM
You guys forgot the best news.  These are the lowest software sales in 13 years. 

Get ready for dat Kickstarter/Indie/Euro-Jank/Steam/OUYA future, guys. :jawalrus

 :dead
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Tasty on June 17, 2013, 07:32:58 PM
DKCR 3D owning faces.

Luigi's Mansion still owning faces 2 months after release.

Both probably sold at least 20-30% of their LTD on eShop, too.

:bow All digital, no sales number future :bow2
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Tasty on June 17, 2013, 07:36:46 PM
Quote
Nintendo’s 3DS edged out the 360 as the top selling platform across hardware and portables.

:rock All 3DS future :rock
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: thisismyusername on June 17, 2013, 07:40:40 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on May 29, 2013, 09:30:58 PM
Quote from: Don Flamenco on May 29, 2013, 08:06:15 PM
It's better to burn out than to fade away

Ehn, the game is still excellent.  I'm not happy Kaneko is probably done, but excellent SMT games with different art are still excellent SMT games.

Remind me what all art Kaneko has done: Persona 1-2 (which wasn't that bad) and... ? Trauma Center? Or am I thinking of someone else? I know the original Trauma Center artist (not the Wii remake) started into Persona 3 or 4's art.

FUSE bombing is glorious but was known ever since they announced they were focus testing and changing the art style to be based on what 12-year olds wanted since they thought it was something their 8 year old brothers would play before that point.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Tasty on June 17, 2013, 07:43:04 PM
I also think it's likely 3DS will take June and Animal Crossing will take #1. Tons of people I know are crazy for it (and not just here.)
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on June 17, 2013, 07:50:27 PM
I'm okay with the game industry cratering, it gives me time to catch up on all those sweet sweet 16-bit JRPGs I missed out on the first time.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Great Rumbler on June 17, 2013, 07:51:09 PM
Quote from: D3RANG3D on June 17, 2013, 07:27:32 PM
Quote from: Great Rumbler on June 17, 2013, 07:01:03 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on June 17, 2013, 06:47:34 PM
You guys forgot the best news.  These are the lowest software sales in 13 years. 

Get ready for dat Kickstarter/Indie/Euro-Jank/Steam/OUYA future, guys. :jawalrus

 :dead

:lol
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: AdmiralViscen on June 17, 2013, 07:57:29 PM
Quote from: Andrex on June 17, 2013, 07:36:46 PM
Quote
Nintendo’s 3DS edged out the 360 as the top selling platform across hardware and portables.

:rock All 3DS future :rock

116k 2 years after launch
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Huff on June 17, 2013, 07:58:47 PM
Quote from: AdmiralViscen on June 17, 2013, 07:57:29 PM
Quote from: Andrex on June 17, 2013, 07:36:46 PM
Quote
Nintendo’s 3DS edged out the 360 as the top selling platform across hardware and portables.

:rock All 3DS future :rock

116k 2 years after launch

just hitting it's stride
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Tasty on June 17, 2013, 07:59:36 PM
Quote from: AdmiralViscen on June 17, 2013, 07:57:29 PM
Quote from: Andrex on June 17, 2013, 07:36:46 PM
Quote
Nintendo’s 3DS edged out the 360 as the top selling platform across hardware and portables.

:rock All 3DS future :rock

116k 2 years after launch

"First time 3DS was #1 for the month." -Nintendo PR

Dat spin.  :miyamoto
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: AdmiralViscen on June 17, 2013, 08:03:59 PM
Apparently 3DS only did 113k last year so I guess this is a rebound
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Positive Touch on June 17, 2013, 08:33:02 PM
this reminds me, how many people will still have 360s & ps3s by the time bioshock dlc is released for those season passes?  do they give refunds if nothing is released? cant imagine there's too many happy people at 2k nowadays  :lol
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Himu on June 17, 2013, 08:39:19 PM
Quote from: Andrex on June 17, 2013, 07:36:46 PM
Quote
Nintendo’s 3DS edged out the 360 as the top selling platform across hardware and portables.

:rock All 3DS future :rock

:rock :rock
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Shaka Khan on June 17, 2013, 08:40:21 PM
Quote from: AdmiralViscen on June 17, 2013, 08:03:59 PM
Apparently 3DS only did 113k last year so I guess this is a rebound

"Double digit YoY increase" /PR spin
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Joe Molotov on June 17, 2013, 09:12:16 PM
Quote from: Positive Touch on June 17, 2013, 08:33:02 PM
this reminds me, how many people will still have 360s & ps3s by the time bioshock dlc is released for those season passes?  do they give refunds if nothing is released? cant imagine there's too many happy people at 2k nowadays  :lol

They'll release something, just to say they did, and you won't get jack back. See: Aliens: Colonial Marines.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: thisismyusername on June 17, 2013, 09:37:45 PM
Honestly, Season Passes that aren't from EA are scams at this point. Uncharted 3's was  :lol and the GAF hissy-fit was hilarious over that. (So glad I didn't buy into that thanks to them fucking up Uncharted 2's multiplayer six months in)

Though I guess I can kinda give Ubisoft a pass since they released their Ass Creed 3 stuff "on-time" like they did the previous outings but the price-saving wasn't really worth it.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Human Snorenado on June 17, 2013, 09:40:38 PM
:wag

Borderlands 2 Season Pass was worth it
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: thisismyusername on June 17, 2013, 09:51:11 PM
Quote from: Creepy Old Guy on June 17, 2013, 09:40:38 PM
:wag

Borderlands 2 Season Pass was worth it

Was it? I didn't follow that or the game since Borderlands 1 was completely boring.  :-\
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Human Snorenado on June 17, 2013, 10:04:39 PM
BL2 is probably the best current example of how to improve for a sequel this gen, and has (IMO) the best dlc of any game this gen also.  Can't recommend it enough, especially now that it's cheaper.  Hours and hours of fun.  Only possible way I'd say don't get it would be if you just don't like shootin shit.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Rufus on June 17, 2013, 10:08:33 PM
Just don't play it for several hours at a time. Improvements notwithstanding, it does get samey, more than top down ARPGs do. Switching weapons and one cooldown is no substitute for a bunch of different skills. And the loot isn't as plentiful.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Tasty on June 17, 2013, 10:08:53 PM
Quote from: Creepy Old Guy on June 17, 2013, 10:04:39 PM
BL2 is probably the best current example of how to improve for a sequel this gen

AssCreed 2?
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Great Rumbler on June 17, 2013, 10:09:05 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KM7hLzhAdD8

:bow
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on June 17, 2013, 10:18:41 PM
Quote from: Howard Alan Treesong on June 17, 2013, 07:50:27 PM
I'm okay with the game industry cratering, it gives me time to catch up on all those sweet sweet 16-bit JRPGs I missed out on the first time.

Yep.  I have a big ass backlog of 3DS, Vita (which I will throw in PSP + PS1 games that work with Vita in there), and PC games that I need to work my way through.  Then I have that bunch of PS1/PS2 games that Positive Touch sent me last year.

Let it burn :rock

Also I hope that the Wii U didn't even crack 30k this time.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Human Snorenado on June 17, 2013, 10:18:50 PM
Quote from: Andrex on June 17, 2013, 10:08:53 PM
Quote from: Creepy Old Guy on June 17, 2013, 10:04:39 PM
BL2 is probably the best current example of how to improve for a sequel this gen

AssCreed 2?

I have never played any AssCrud games.  I know what I want out of games at this point in my life, and what I've seen of AssCrud ain't it.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Joe Molotov on June 17, 2013, 10:21:29 PM
I bought the Defiance Season Pass. That's gonna be paying dividends any day now...
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: treythemovie on June 17, 2013, 10:22:28 PM
Quote from: thisismyusername on June 17, 2013, 09:37:45 PM
Honestly, Season Passes that aren't from EA are scams at this point. Uncharted 3's was  :lol and the GAF hissy-fit was hilarious over that. (So glad I didn't buy into that thanks to them fucking up Uncharted 2's multiplayer six months in)

Though I guess I can kinda give Ubisoft a pass since they released their Ass Creed 3 stuff "on-time" like they did the previous outings but the price-saving wasn't really worth it.
The entire purpose of Season Passes are to be scams. A large percentage of users lose interest in a game and never buy the DLC by the time it comes out. So season passes exist to con those users out of their money NOW since they won't give it later. That's why the quality of DLC doesn't matter: because the target of season passes were never going to play it anyway.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Rahxephon91 on June 17, 2013, 10:25:30 PM
Quote from: Andrex on June 17, 2013, 10:08:53 PM
Quote from: Creepy Old Guy on June 17, 2013, 10:04:39 PM
BL2 is probably the best current example of how to improve for a sequel this gen

AssCreed 2?
I know people like AC2 and think it's a great improvement, but I think it's the exact opposite. It didn't really fix AC 1 in they way I wanted. It just made it GTA when it should have became Hitman.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Purple Filth on June 17, 2013, 10:29:47 PM
Some numbers out

Wii U  ~ 33k
Vita   < 16k
PS3  86 - 90K

Flamenco post if you are okay
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: AdmiralViscen on June 17, 2013, 10:32:06 PM
Quote from: thisismyusername on June 17, 2013, 09:37:45 PM
Honestly, Season Passes that aren't from EA are scams at this point. Uncharted 3's was  :lol and the GAF hissy-fit was hilarious over that. (So glad I didn't buy into that thanks to them fucking up Uncharted 2's multiplayer six months in)

Though I guess I can kinda give Ubisoft a pass since they released their Ass Creed 3 stuff "on-time" like they did the previous outings but the price-saving wasn't really worth it.

What happened with UC3?
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Eel O'Brian on June 17, 2013, 10:42:35 PM
Yeah, BL2 Season Pass was definitely worth it, every pack has new areas/enemies/weapons, and they've all been longer than most FPS SP campaigns :lol

the final one looks awesome, too
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Rufus on June 17, 2013, 10:42:41 PM
Quote from: Great Rumbler on June 17, 2013, 10:09:05 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KM7hLzhAdD8

:bow
"I'M HERE TO ASK YOU ONE QUESTION AND ONE QUESTION ONLY. EXPLOSIONS!?"
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 17, 2013, 10:42:52 PM
Quote from: Purple Filth on June 17, 2013, 10:29:47 PM
Some numbers out

Wii U  ~ 33k
Vita   < 16k
PS3  86 - 90K

Flamenco post if you are okay

Ouch
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: thisismyusername on June 17, 2013, 10:52:51 PM
Quote from: Creepy Old Guy on June 17, 2013, 10:04:39 PM
BL2 is probably the best current example of how to improve for a sequel this gen, and has (IMO) the best dlc of any game this gen also.  Can't recommend it enough, especially now that it's cheaper.  Hours and hours of fun.  Only possible way I'd say don't get it would be if you just don't like shootin shit.

I like shootin' shit, but Borderlands 1's gun combat was completely flat. I dunno if they fixed that in Borderlands 2 but I dunno if I want to buy it and get burned again. The gun combat got boring after like 10 mins in 1.
Quote from: treythemovie on June 17, 2013, 10:22:28 PM
Quote from: thisismyusername on June 17, 2013, 09:37:45 PM
Honestly, Season Passes that aren't from EA are scams at this point. Uncharted 3's was  :lol and the GAF hissy-fit was hilarious over that. (So glad I didn't buy into that thanks to them fucking up Uncharted 2's multiplayer six months in)

Though I guess I can kinda give Ubisoft a pass since they released their Ass Creed 3 stuff "on-time" like they did the previous outings but the price-saving wasn't really worth it.
The entire purpose of Season Passes are to be scams. A large percentage of users lose interest in a game and never buy the DLC by the time it comes out. So season passes exist to con those users out of their money NOW since they won't give it later. That's why the quality of DLC doesn't matter: because the target of season passes were never going to play it anyway.

True. But EA's DLC schedule seems to be built for a year of support for the titles they release season passes for. Others seem to release the pass before even having DLC planned/set in stone and in development. It's like most of the others go "shit, we gotta release DLC! What should we do for it!?"

"*shrug*"

Quote from: AdmiralViscen on June 17, 2013, 10:32:06 PM
Quote from: thisismyusername on June 17, 2013, 09:37:45 PM
Honestly, Season Passes that aren't from EA are scams at this point. Uncharted 3's was  :lol and the GAF hissy-fit was hilarious over that. (So glad I didn't buy into that thanks to them fucking up Uncharted 2's multiplayer six months in)

Though I guess I can kinda give Ubisoft a pass since they released their Ass Creed 3 stuff "on-time" like they did the previous outings but the price-saving wasn't really worth it.

What happened with UC3?

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=483563

Basically they released more DLC and didn't include it in the Fortune Hunter Club/Season Pass. Even if the "content" is minor it should've been there for people that paid that much.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Tasty on June 17, 2013, 10:55:54 PM
Quote from: Purple Filth on June 17, 2013, 10:29:47 PM
Some numbers out

Wii U  ~ 33k
Vita   < 16k
PS3  86 - 90K

Flamenco post if you are okay

 :holeup
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Don Flamenco on June 17, 2013, 10:58:34 PM
Quote from: Purple Filth on June 17, 2013, 10:29:47 PM
Some numbers out

Wii U  ~ 33k
Vita   < 16k
PS3  86 - 90K

Flamenco post if you are okay


(http://i.imgur.com/eZ2FyqK.png)
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Shaka Khan on June 17, 2013, 11:09:37 PM
Wii is... but then Vita is...

I mean when you break it to 4 weeks it makes you wanna... especially when you consider the US size... and population...

I just can't...

(http://i.minus.com/i9xo7ZYSnaE0T.gif)
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Phoenix Dark on June 17, 2013, 11:27:06 PM
Old consoles that still haven't hit budget prices, a shitty "new" console nobody wants...can't say I'm surprised at the low sales numbers. A $400 PS4 should be able to clean up nicely next year.

The only doom I see is in the handheld market, at least for Nintendo; Vita is irrelevant. I'll add on to the anecdotal evidence: my young cousins no longer give a shit about Nintendo handhelds. They just play on their (hand me down) smart phones and laugh at me for having a dumb phone :fbm

but yea, Apple/Android/etc are going to completely own that market very soon.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Don Flamenco on June 17, 2013, 11:39:13 PM
It's not so bad that the Vita is dying since the WiiU is dying too.   always a silver lining.   although the WiiU deserves to be dying harder, while Vita is pretty much guaranteed "Arrested Development after it was canceled" status.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 17, 2013, 11:46:56 PM
TBH Nintendo hasn't done anything that has impressed me in terms of innovation for wii and wii u, and I think a 3rd party Nintendo, that actually has to compete against modern games, would be the best for gamers in the long run.  For example all the PR talk about how a second screen for wii u will make for great new gameplay experiences, well do you know the best way to do multiple screens?  Online multiplayer.  Things like pacman VS didn't need gba connectivity; it needed online.  If Nintendo lost the handheld market, I doubt they could sustain themselves to keep making consoles and I would look forward to that. 
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: thisismyusername on June 17, 2013, 11:59:32 PM
Call me cynical but Nintendo third party would just be Sega third party round two. Just with maybe slightly better sales because Nintendo's IP's would have people like Andrex lapping it up unlike Sega.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 18, 2013, 12:13:10 AM
I think the difference was that nintendo actually made good games before going 3rd party; sega didn't.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: cool breeze on June 18, 2013, 12:40:05 AM
Sega's Dreamcast output at the time was way better than Nintendo's current output.  Even when Sega went third party, it made two of Nintendo's best Gamecube game.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Damian79 on June 18, 2013, 12:46:59 AM
Fzero and what?  I forgot.  Skies?
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Tasty on June 18, 2013, 12:55:55 AM
Quote from: Damian79 on June 18, 2013, 12:46:59 AM
Fzero and what?  I forgot.  Skies?

Billy Hatcher? :teehee
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: archie4208 on June 18, 2013, 01:00:48 AM
So, PS4 and Xbone are the last hopes for the console industry.

That's a scary thing to think about.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on June 18, 2013, 01:02:03 AM
Quote from: Creepy Old Guy on June 17, 2013, 06:58:27 PM
Quote from: Steve Contra on June 17, 2013, 06:56:35 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on June 17, 2013, 06:53:22 PM
Quote from: Purple Filth on June 17, 2013, 06:49:44 PM
FUSE missing on that fucking list  :lol

Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on June 17, 2013, 06:47:34 PM
You guys forgot the best news.  These are the lowest software sales in 13 years.

Next gen save us  :P


Anything you can share?

Reggie should be picking up a newspaper to look for a new job.

Along with everyone else in the industry, haw haw
Low current gen sales are just further signs that consumers are ready for the next-gen experience that only the X-Box Onetm can offer.

...maxy?
Nah,this machine is designed just for the Yanks.

I do think machine has a chance to survive but only because of TV,sports,skype,etc stuff.It looks like gaming population has abandoned consoles and went elsewhere.

People laugh at WiiU but I think it's very likely that next gen launch mimics WiiU launch...decent hardware,disaster software
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on June 18, 2013, 03:06:56 AM
So Nintendo is currently tracking to sell less then 1 million Wii U's this year, worldwide.

 :dead

The whole industry is now in Sony's hands.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Purple Filth on June 18, 2013, 03:23:54 AM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on June 18, 2013, 03:20:35 AM
Yeah, Sony hasn't had a chance like this since PS1.  Here's hoping they don't pull a Sony.

Its funny how almost all of the moves they are pulling are PS1 moves as well, should be interesting to see how this plays out.

And yes pulling a 2006 Sony is still on the table imo
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cascade on June 18, 2013, 04:41:13 AM
Wii U Sales:

 :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol
Lego Batman 2: DC Super Heroes, Fast & Furious: Showdown, and Sniper Elite V2 combined sold 4000 copies.
 :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol


How is this even physically possible? Why would any publisher ever support Wii U given these pathetic sales? There is literally no way ninthings can spin third parties not supporting Wii U as being bad for them.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on June 18, 2013, 04:59:59 AM
Market is so different now, all the right moves might not be enough.

Kickstarter future and death of AAA games indeed.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: archnemesis on June 18, 2013, 05:43:05 AM
45k for Soul Sacrifice isn't that bad.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: thisismyusername on June 18, 2013, 07:03:11 AM
Quote from: TheInfelicitousDandy on June 18, 2013, 12:13:10 AM
I think the difference was that nintendo actually made good games before going 3rd party; sega didn't.

And yet I could see the same thing happening to Nintendo if they went third party: People would realize that Nintendo's output isn't needed at all.

Sega had some decent stuff in the Dreamcast era. Put some of it on PS2/X-box/Gamecube, but no one came running. (JSRF  :'() Metroid is a niche series, it going third party would just kill it. Pokemon would probably survive but them pumping it out like a yearly Sega sequel now a days to keep the money flowing (but annoying older fans?) Mario would be the toss-up but I think the larger non-Nintendo-buyer market would probably pass on things that aren't Mario Kart, which would probably stranglehold the Kart-racing genre (Blur...  :'().

Starfox would probably be ignored. Pikmin would most likely definitely be ignored.

That leaves...?
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on June 18, 2013, 07:13:23 AM
Zelda?

They could license their IP's to good studio's.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on June 18, 2013, 08:24:16 AM
Not everything is gloomy,State of Decay $20 XBLA game has sold more then 500k in just one week.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on June 18, 2013, 08:44:32 AM
That's the future.

20/30 euro titles tops.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on June 18, 2013, 08:57:01 AM
That's actually not that far from money that third party publishers get from $60 retail,I think.

heh

Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Great Rumbler on June 18, 2013, 09:07:15 AM
Quote from: Cascade on June 18, 2013, 04:41:13 AM
Wii U Sales:

 :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol
Lego Batman 2: DC Super Heroes, Fast & Furious: Showdown, and Sniper Elite V2 combined sold 4000 copies.
 :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol


How is this even physically possible? Why would any publisher ever support Wii U given these pathetic sales? There is literally no way ninthings can spin third parties not supporting Wii U as being bad for them.

Maybe you shouldn't pass judgment since digital sales aren't accounted for. :jawalrus
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Father_Brain on June 18, 2013, 09:38:59 AM
Quote from: archnemesis on June 18, 2013, 05:43:05 AM
45k for Soul Sacrifice isn't that bad.

It isn't at all, given everything the game had going against it commercially (platform, new IP, niche genre, nonexistent marketing). Factor in digital and it's done pretty well, relative to reasonable expectations.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Tasty on June 18, 2013, 10:28:35 AM
Quote from: archnemesis on June 18, 2013, 05:43:05 AM
45k for Soul Sacrifice isn't that bad.

 :what
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: archnemesis on June 18, 2013, 10:46:59 AM
You have to compare the sales to what it did in Japan and take into account the cost of localization.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Don Flamenco on June 18, 2013, 11:05:02 AM
even I winced at 45k.   of course, that's retail and Sony says Vita does decently in PSN sales.  Still nowhere near where it needs to be for the most hyped title of the year so far on a year old handheld.

Quote from: Premium Lager on June 18, 2013, 04:59:59 AM
Market is so different now, all the right moves might not be enough.

Kickstarter future and death of AAA games indeed.


I dunno, people seem pretty disappointed in the KS projects they've funded, both in games and otherwise.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Rufus on June 18, 2013, 11:08:44 AM
We need to get someone like Mama Robotnik to do a run-down of successful Kickstarters and how those that have come out were received.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Tasty on June 18, 2013, 11:14:06 AM
Quote from: archnemesis on June 18, 2013, 10:46:59 AM
You have to compare the sales to what it did in Japan and take into account the cost of localization.

45k is barely acceptable for a one-man iPhone game. Let's be real here.  :comeon
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: archnemesis on June 18, 2013, 11:22:35 AM
One-man iPhone games don't sell for $40 and you're neglecting Japanese and European sales. There are plenty of companies that are sustainable with those kind of numbers.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Tasty on June 18, 2013, 11:27:20 AM
Quote from: archnemesis on June 18, 2013, 11:22:35 AM
One-man iPhone games don't sell for $40 and you're neglecting Japanese and European sales. There are plenty of companies that are sustainable with those kind of numbers.

:mindblown
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Joe Molotov on June 18, 2013, 11:35:21 AM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on June 18, 2013, 11:27:13 AM
XSEED would love those numbers.

Wii U devs would love those numbers.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Phoenix Dark on June 18, 2013, 11:43:13 AM
About how much would a Vita game have to sell to turn a profit, or is it variable depending on the title.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: archnemesis on June 18, 2013, 11:47:23 AM
(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7281/8736043122_27a4cc7ea0.jpg)

I tried Coconut Dodge Revitalised earlier today. It would have made a profit with only a handful of sales.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Eel O'Brian on June 18, 2013, 11:52:20 AM
well, vita's just an indie games jukebox and ps4 accessory now, anyway

it'll be like having a wii u, except with some games
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Purple Filth on June 18, 2013, 03:59:47 PM
Well Soul Sacrifice got a digital sale here so +1 to whatever digital number they have
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cascade on June 19, 2013, 02:50:56 AM
Fuse Sales: <20K

Surprise, surprise, games from a terrible developer fail to sell when they don't have a legion of Sony fanbabies blindly buying their games to prop up mothership Sony.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: archnemesis on June 19, 2013, 03:30:44 AM
The Ratchet & Clank games are very competent. Or at least they used to be.

Their new Xbox One exclusive will also bomb.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: chronovore on June 21, 2013, 09:30:58 PM
Quote from: Cascade on June 19, 2013, 02:50:56 AM
Fuse Sales: <20K

Surprise, surprise, games from a terrible developer fail to sell when they don't have a legion of Sony fanbabies blindly buying their games to prop up mothership Sony.

Wow, that's painful.

I guess designed-by-committee isn't the way to go?
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: nudemacusers on June 21, 2013, 09:32:14 PM
Quote from: Cascade on June 19, 2013, 02:50:56 AM
Fuse Sales: <20K

Surprise, surprise, games from a terrible developer fail to sell when they don't have a legion of Sony fanbabies blindly buying their games to prop up mothership Sony.
goddamn

true tho
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Joe Molotov on June 21, 2013, 09:44:34 PM
Which will sell more lifetime: Fuse, Haze, or Ryse?
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Tasty on June 21, 2013, 09:55:20 PM
Quote from: Joe Molotov on June 21, 2013, 09:44:34 PM
Which will sell more lifetime: Fuse, Haze, or Ryse?

Whoever wins, Wii (U) lose.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on June 23, 2013, 12:13:55 PM
Anecdotal stuff.

Quote
Yesterday the clerk at Gamestop told me they're requiring a $100 deposit because too many people pre-ordered Wii U's and ended up not picking them up. Corporate didn't like that so figured if people are parting with $100 they're a bit more serious with picking the system up day 1.

Holiday will be fun.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Phoenix Dark on June 23, 2013, 01:10:05 PM
Went to GameStop to pick up a gift for my cousin so I asked about PS4/Xbone pre-orders. The manager said both are quite high but the PS4 is in the lead. There's a Wal Mart about 5 stores away from them, and the GameStop manager said they're heard Wal Mart has similar a similar pre-order situation.

I asked if they expect big WiiU sales if the other two systems sell out. They laughed.

Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on June 23, 2013, 03:02:25 PM
My stupid guess would be PS4 leading like 3:1 or more,X180 seems to be having some serious production issues + $100 more + DRM clusterfuck.

Based just on current preorder anecdotal evidence.

Then again,X180 seems to have launch game(s) that people want,one game in particular...Dead Rising 3
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Positive Touch on June 23, 2013, 03:08:41 PM
 :lol dead rising 3 moving units, ok

can anyone tell me ok how companies determine piracy rates? was reading up on how companies skip out on android while citing piracy rates, but all i can find for evidence is articles with devs talking piracy v purchase ratios.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Eel O'Brian on June 23, 2013, 03:08:59 PM
I'm just gonna carry on playing the free games I get from Gold and PS+ and try not to pay too much attention to either new system until next Fall.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Himu on June 23, 2013, 03:09:01 PM
Apparently the launch lineups are not final so that could change between now, Gamescom, and TGS
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on June 23, 2013, 03:20:22 PM
Quote from: Positive Touch on June 23, 2013, 03:08:41 PM
:lol dead rising 3 moving units, ok

can anyone tell me ok how companies determine piracy rates? was reading up on how companies skip out on android while citing piracy rates, but all i can find for evidence is articles with devs talking piracy v purchase ratios.
Dunno,Zombimania is still alive and kicking,in both games and movies.

Not sure what people see in zombies,but whatever.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Phoenix Dark on June 23, 2013, 03:21:24 PM
Is it confirmed that Dead Rising 3 is a launch title?
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Human Snorenado on June 23, 2013, 03:23:05 PM
Quote from: Eel O'Brian on June 23, 2013, 03:08:59 PM
I'm just gonna carry on playing the free games I get from Gold and PS+ and try not to pay too much attention to either new system until next Fall.

Get that beta testing out of the way, SMART.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on June 23, 2013, 03:26:15 PM
Quote from: Phoenix Dark on June 23, 2013, 03:21:24 PM
Is it confirmed that Dead Rising 3 is a launch title?
This holiday.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: cool breeze on June 23, 2013, 03:47:04 PM
Quote from: Phoenix Dark on June 23, 2013, 03:21:24 PM
Is it confirmed that Dead Rising 3 is a launch title?

yeah, it has a "Day One Edition." It's the roughest looking launch game shown for either platform, but they've committed to that date.

Both have strong launch lineups although neither has that standout game like a Halo, Mario 64, or Wii Sports.  There's also free to play and indie stuff at launch, like Planetside 2 and Minecraft.  I remember back in 2005 people were saying that Geometry Wars was the best 360 launch game.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: thisismyusername on June 23, 2013, 03:48:33 PM
Quote from: Joe Molotov on June 21, 2013, 09:44:34 PM
Which will sell more lifetime: Fuse, Haze, or Ryse?

Well, Ryse has launch-window hype to go for it.

Then again, that didn't really help Haze.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: brob on June 23, 2013, 04:10:24 PM
Didn't Haze's promotional material include Slipknot calling it a religious experience? Would certainly have deterred me if the game didn't also look so obviously shit.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: archnemesis on June 23, 2013, 04:16:30 PM
You're probably thinking of Korn. They were involved with the game's promotion.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: brob on June 23, 2013, 04:28:26 PM
you are correct, it was Korn. Here is Jeff Gerstmann breaking it down.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SHjvUjlF1kE
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Great Rumbler on June 23, 2013, 05:56:20 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/Ny2Vu95.jpg)

:bow
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Positive Touch on June 23, 2013, 08:21:32 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on June 23, 2013, 06:42:02 PM
Quote from: Positive Touch on June 23, 2013, 03:08:41 PM
:lol dead rising 3 moving units, ok

can anyone tell me ok how companies determine piracy rates? was reading up on how companies skip out on android while citing piracy rates, but all i can find for evidence is articles with devs talking piracy v purchase ratios.

On Android/iOS, they just check leaderboards versus unit sales.  Some have the game do a small phone home.

i see; thank you.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: chronovore on June 24, 2013, 10:19:01 AM
Quote from: Great Rumbler on June 23, 2013, 05:56:20 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/Ny2Vu95.jpg)

:bow

I liked Issues, but Körn is a silly band. And it's sad that I can say that with a straight face, despite being a Rob Zombie fan.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Rufus on June 24, 2013, 11:09:11 AM
With Rob Zombie that's part of the show. Korn's cheesiness isn't intentional any more. I listen to black metal occasionally and I feel better about their panda makeup than I do about Korn. That said, Korn, Follow the Leader and Issues are descent enough records.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on June 24, 2013, 12:25:24 PM
We definitely need next gen Haze.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Flannel Boy on June 26, 2013, 03:59:27 PM
WiiU     4.236
 :dead

The Wii U has less chance at being a viable console than I have getting back together with Fit Girl.

Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Eel O'Brian on June 26, 2013, 04:03:40 PM
that fucking korn picture, every time :lol
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on June 26, 2013, 04:08:16 PM
Quote from: Eel O'Brian on June 26, 2013, 04:03:40 PM
that fucking korn picture, every time :lol

the best part is how KORN is reflected in his visor. LIKE THEY'RE REALY THERE>!
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: AdmiralViscen on June 26, 2013, 06:44:40 PM
Quote from: Flannel Boy on June 26, 2013, 03:59:27 PM
WiiU     4.236
 :dead

The Wii U has less chance at being a viable console than I have getting back together with Fit Girl.

Are these Japanese weekly sales?
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Flannel Boy on June 26, 2013, 06:49:02 PM
Yes, but I'm sure they apply to every region.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: MCD on June 26, 2013, 06:53:05 PM
Wii U is tempting me everyday (discounted everywhere around my place) but only interested in Nintendo games and there is only that Mario launch game.

Seriously, the situation is bad.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Eel O'Brian on June 26, 2013, 07:48:25 PM
Gonna get worse once you can buy a bangin' true next-gen console for only $50 more
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: MCD on June 26, 2013, 07:55:00 PM
I will still buy a Wii U even then. Can always sell or give it to the family later.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: MCD on June 26, 2013, 08:00:58 PM
And TBH I'm tired of the current western domination in video games. Japanese games, as rare as they are nowadays, are still as whimsy as ever.

Euro devs still rock though. Can't hate on Eidos and co.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on June 26, 2013, 10:17:37 PM
Good thing Nintendo has all of those awesome games coming out in the next few weeks to pull it out of the shit
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: MCD on June 27, 2013, 01:57:49 AM
:dead
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on June 27, 2013, 02:16:09 PM
Some number

Quote
Xbox 360 is this generation's best-selling home games console in the UK, says GfK Chart-Track.

Microsoft's platform will overtake Wii in a matter of days, the stat tracker says. Xbox 360 is regularly outselling all rivals in hardware terms, and has now shifted 8.4m consoles across the country.

“This is an historic milestone and our sincere thanks goes to each and every person that has bought and enjoyed Xbox 360 over the past eight years," Director of Xbox and entertainment Harvey Eagle told MCV

Wii :violin

Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on July 04, 2013, 07:50:11 AM
France, January-April 2013
Quote
The big exclusives also have difficulty with 45,000 sales for God of War: Ascension and only 26,000 for Gears of War: Judgment. All sales of console games is down 13%, sales of consoles down 22% and sales of portable consoles down 33%!
(http://cdn-static.gamekult.com/gamekult-com/images/photos/30/50/16/03/marche-francais-la-next-gen-vite-ME3050160334_1.jpg)
(http://cdn-static.gamekult.com/gamekult-com/images/photos/30/50/16/03/marche-francais-la-next-gen-vite-ME3050160335_1.jpg)
(http://cdn-static.gamekult.com/gamekult-com/images/photos/30/50/16/03/marche-francais-la-next-gen-vite-ME3050160336_1.jpg)

Lot more inside
http://www.gamekult.com/actu/marche-francais-la-next-gen-vite-A110312.html
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on July 04, 2013, 08:54:50 AM
 :yuck
They are still buying Wii,shit taste confirmed.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on July 04, 2013, 09:18:59 AM
That's ok, once Nintendo relaunches the Wii U, it's all gravy from there.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on July 09, 2013, 01:11:46 PM
TLOU at 3.4 million worldwide in 3 weeks.

Oscar?
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Bebpo on July 09, 2013, 02:25:29 PM
Pleasantly surprised at that TLOU number.  Naughty Dog is Sony's golden child for sure. 
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Trent Dole on July 09, 2013, 02:29:59 PM
Well the press couldn't stop circle jerking over it for a good while and there wasn't much else out at the time, right?
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: hampster on July 09, 2013, 02:39:49 PM
I'm curious if the game will be profitable at ~4 million given some of the high sellers we've heard about failing. Naughty Dog is likely more efficient than other studios though, at least that's the impression I get
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Steve Contra on July 09, 2013, 02:40:37 PM
It will be very profitable.  No licensing fees for starters.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on July 09, 2013, 02:45:54 PM
Considering Heavy Rain made money too id say it will be.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: cool breeze on July 09, 2013, 03:12:33 PM
I don't know if it's selling inline or better than an uncharted game, but I expected last of us to do well based on how popular that type of media is (the cruddy walking dead tv show).
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on July 10, 2013, 04:36:56 AM
https://twitter.com/therealcliffyb/status/354715406709170176

Quote
At e3 I overheard that a certain AAA new IP needs to sell 10 million copies...to break even. No I'm not saying which one. You can guess. :)

 :lawd
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on July 10, 2013, 04:38:24 AM
Well it's not his game that's for sure.  :teehee
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on July 10, 2013, 05:07:07 AM
Titanfall is a source engine game, no sp campaign and all the work that goes with that, shit is cheap.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: archnemesis on July 10, 2013, 05:10:51 AM
I don't trust CliffyB and the only non-Nintendo, non-pack-in franchises that sell that well are Call of Duty and Assassin's Creed. I would guess that he is referring to either Destiny or Watch Dogs.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: archnemesis on July 10, 2013, 05:16:53 AM
That would explain why it got nominated as game of the show at E3. Still, I doubt it will reach 10+ million LTD. There isn't going to be much interest in the PS3/PS4 port a year after its launch and it's not going to sell well on PC if it's an Origin exclusive.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Rahxephon91 on July 10, 2013, 05:29:43 AM
You think TitanFall is going to get a PS4 port? I hope so. I mean I assume it will or the 2nd one at least.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on July 10, 2013, 05:41:08 AM
I think Destiny is the prime candidate,I doubt MS would give $300 million for TitanFall.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on July 10, 2013, 05:48:55 AM
Quote from: Rahxephon91 on July 10, 2013, 05:29:43 AM
You think TitanFall is going to get a PS4 port? I hope so. I mean I assume it will or the 2nd one at least.

Im pretty sure it will get a PS3 port too since they chose the source engine because it's PS3 compatible.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: archnemesis on July 10, 2013, 01:18:04 PM
Quote from: Rahxephon91 on July 10, 2013, 05:29:43 AM
You think TitanFall is going to get a PS4 port? I hope so. I mean I assume it will or the 2nd one at least.
I think GAF insider CBoaT mentioned it was a 1 year timed exclusive. Several news outlets have been hinting at it as well.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Steve Contra on July 10, 2013, 02:55:25 PM
Quote from: Borys on July 10, 2013, 05:00:52 AM
Titanfall.
That or Destiny
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: cool breeze on July 10, 2013, 03:06:50 PM
Destiny makes the most sense.  Huge game, crazy production values, on four systems, '10 year commitment', servers to support MMO-like play, Peter Dinklage as your dronebro, etc.

then again, EA had to build the Titanfall studio (blanking on the name) from scratch, more or less, plus however much they paid to get the talent that left infinity ward.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Tasty on July 10, 2013, 03:10:56 PM
Respawn, I think. (Gee I wonder how they came up with that name, lol.)
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on July 10, 2013, 03:20:14 PM
Destiny makes the most sense, but I'm betting its Titanfall, simply because Kotick runs a tight ship and Bungie are professionals, while Respawn are a bunch of irrational drama queens who care infinitely more about pissing in Call of Duty's Cheerios than enforcing sensible development practices.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Human Snorenado on July 10, 2013, 03:26:05 PM
This industry totally isn't doomed at all!
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Steve Contra on July 10, 2013, 03:30:49 PM
Quote from: Premium Lager on July 10, 2013, 05:07:07 AM
Titanfall is a source engine game, no sp campaign and all the work that goes with that, shit is cheap.
Not cheap.  Not in the slightest.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Steve Youngblood on July 10, 2013, 03:31:19 PM
I can only assume that such a budget was approved during the time when they thought the menace of used games had been defeated, and game sales were going to increase tenfold as a result. And it would have worked too, if not for manufactures being giant pansies that couldn't withstand Twitter campaigns.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on July 10, 2013, 03:43:54 PM
Also, who's more likely to bet the farm on a 10 million seller in 2013? ATVI, who's flush with cash and sitting pretty on multiple viable franchises? Or EA, who's launching expensive flop after expensive flop and 18 months away from going mobile only? Pretty sure this one's Titanfall. You don't make a bet that stupid unless you "have" to.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on July 10, 2013, 03:50:21 PM
How come Titanfall is so expensive? I don't see anything special really in production values.

Quote from: Steve Youngblood on July 10, 2013, 03:31:19 PM
I can only assume that such a budget was approved during the time when they thought the menace of used games had been defeated, and game sales were going to increase tenfold as a result. And it would have worked too, if not for manufactures being giant pansies that couldn't withstand Twitter campaigns.

Bet EA is crying over the Xbone backpedal now, Im surprised theye haven't cancelled the Titanfall deal. Maybe they forgot to add a clause to the contract about DRM cause MS was like OH THATS IN FO SHO
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Rufus on July 10, 2013, 03:54:51 PM
Building and running a studio for however long it took and is going to take still? Why not. Even though they use Source and don't have a traditional campaign, that had to have been expensive.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Steve Contra on July 10, 2013, 03:59:21 PM
Quote from: Premium Lager on July 10, 2013, 03:50:21 PM
How come Titanfall is so expensive? I don't see anything special really in production values.

The gameplay has "expensive" written all over it.  Plus building a new online infrastructure for this type of game costs some serious bucks.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on July 10, 2013, 04:00:46 PM
I blame Illuminati.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Eel O'Brian on July 10, 2013, 04:39:34 PM
boy, you know ea is crossing fingers and hoping that star wars deal is gonna pull some asses out of fires
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Dickie Dee on July 10, 2013, 04:42:58 PM
Isn't the Titanfall team relatively small?
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Human Snorenado on July 10, 2013, 04:59:04 PM
How long does that licensing agreement the NFL signed with EA run?  Just wondering...
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: archnemesis on July 10, 2013, 05:24:37 PM
Doesn't the license expire this year? One of the moderators over at NeoGAF made a thread about it recently.

Edit: Here is a link to the thread I was thinking of: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=67696226
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Phoenix Dark on July 10, 2013, 10:15:30 PM
Quote from: Creepy Old Guy on July 10, 2013, 04:59:04 PM
How long does that licensing agreement the NFL signed with EA run?  Just wondering...

NFL 2K15
:rejoice
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: iconoclast on July 10, 2013, 11:06:52 PM
Wow, 180k opening for EDF4. I had no idea the series was so popular.
 :rejoice
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Shaka Khan on July 10, 2013, 11:18:03 PM
How broken is it this time, and have they released patches yet?
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: iconoclast on July 10, 2013, 11:34:55 PM
The 360 version isn't immune to crashes either (I beat it yesterday and it froze on me 3 times), but there's nothing as bad as that. Turning off the screen shake is supposed to help with the crashes & framerate if you've been playing it.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Shaka Khan on July 11, 2013, 12:01:06 AM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on July 10, 2013, 11:20:31 PM
in the ps3 version, once you reach a certain level, the framerate frequently drops to the single digits and the game crashes constantly.  they've said they're working on a patch, but I don't think it's out yet.  probably too late to salvage the game's sales, though.  i'd be surprised if even a quarter of the people who bought the ps3 version haven't already sold it to the shop.

Wow
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: cool breeze on July 11, 2013, 12:20:16 AM
Quote from: Phoenix Dark on July 10, 2013, 10:15:30 PM
Quote from: Creepy Old Guy on July 10, 2013, 04:59:04 PM
How long does that licensing agreement the NFL signed with EA run?  Just wondering...

NFL 2K15
:rejoice

I'd love to see an ubisoft football game just to see how ubisoft it would be.  checklists for everything (25 sacks to unlock dan marino jersey, etc) and somehow fit in borgia towers.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Phoenix Dark on July 11, 2013, 09:48:21 AM
Quote from: fryinghigh on July 11, 2013, 12:20:16 AM
Quote from: Phoenix Dark on July 10, 2013, 10:15:30 PM
Quote from: Creepy Old Guy on July 10, 2013, 04:59:04 PM
How long does that licensing agreement the NFL signed with EA run?  Just wondering...

NFL 2K15
:rejoice

I'd love to see an ubisoft football game just to see how ubisoft it would be.  checklists for everything (25 sacks to unlock dan marino jersey, etc) and somehow fit in borgia towers.

Also a Watchdogs-esque mode where you play a security guard attempting to prevent various terrorist attacks at the stadium.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Mr. Gundam on July 11, 2013, 11:30:02 AM
Damn, I don't feel any remorse over not importing EDF4 now.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on July 11, 2013, 12:38:53 PM
Why even release something so buggy.

Whole QA department must be going like TOLD YA

spoiler (click to show/hide)
There was no QA
[close]
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Clouzot on July 11, 2013, 12:54:16 PM
Quote from: Phoenix Dark on July 11, 2013, 09:48:21 AM
Also a Watchdogs-esque mode where you play a security guard attempting to prevent various terrorist attacks at the stadium.

:bow Ubisoft presents Pure Hockey featuring timed-exclusive Sudden Death mode via DLC. :bow2

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tyq2TbL1OG8
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on July 11, 2013, 01:27:49 PM
Quote from: Premium Lager on July 11, 2013, 12:38:53 PM
Why even release something so buggy.

Whole QA department must be going like TOLD YA

spoiler (click to show/hide)
There was no QA
[close]

QA wrote "Pri 1: Game has so many bugs" and dev just high-fived each other and shipped another EDF game :(
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: bork on July 11, 2013, 03:33:58 PM
Sounds like a Simple 2000 Series game to me!
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: chronovore on July 12, 2013, 11:02:42 AM
Quote from: Creepy Old Guy on July 10, 2013, 04:59:04 PM
How long does that licensing agreement the NFL signed with EA run?  Just wondering...

These things frequently have a re-up clause in them.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: chronovore on July 12, 2013, 11:03:32 AM
Quote from: Premium Lager on July 10, 2013, 05:07:07 AM
Titanfall is a source engine game, no sp campaign and all the work that goes with that, shit is cheap.

Sometimes I worry about the way your head works.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Human Snorenado on July 12, 2013, 11:14:54 AM
Quote from: chronovore on July 12, 2013, 11:03:32 AM
Quote from: Premium Lager on July 10, 2013, 05:07:07 AM
Titanfall is a source engine game, no sp campaign and all the work that goes with that, shit is cheap.

Sometimes I worry about the way your head works.

Whoa whoa whoa... you take that shit back.  His head doesn't work.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on July 12, 2013, 11:34:05 AM
Quote
Fortunately the hardware’s focus on accessibility and familiarity made it easy to incorporate indies. Cerny always aimed to nurture creativity at any level. “We wanted the focus to be on the games that the creative directors wanted to make, rather than the minutiae of the hardware. That’s universal,” says Cerny. “That’s true whether you’re talking Destiny with their 700-strong team or you’re talking one guy doing everything. They want to focus on the creative vision.

http://www.vg247.com/2013/07/12/why-ps4-will-alter-the-gaming-landscape-cerny-speaks/

Bungie itself is about 400.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on July 15, 2013, 07:32:45 AM
Software sales UK.

(http://www.gamesetwatch.com/uk-software-unit-1H-2013.png)
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on July 17, 2013, 12:36:36 PM
Quote
Media Create Sales: Week 28, 2013 (Jul 08 - Jul 14)

01./00. [WIU] Pikmin 3 <ACT> (Nintendo) {2013.07.13} (¥5.985) - 92.720 / NEW
02./00. [3DS] Youkai Watch <RPG> (Level 5) {2013.07.11} (¥4.800) - 53.654 / NEW
03./01. [PS3] Earth Defense Force 2025 <ACT> (D3 Publisher) {2013.07.04} (¥6.980) - 37.024 / 191.713 (-76%)
04./05. [3DS] Friend Collection: New Life # <ETC> (Nintendo) {2013.04.18} (¥4.800) - 26.065 / 1.259.847 (-19%)
05./00. [WIU] New Super Luigi U <ACT> (Nintendo) {2013.07.13} (¥3.885) - 24.881 / NEW
06./02. [PSV] Toukiden # <ACT> (Koei Tecmo) {2013.06.27} (¥6.090) - 20.853 / 186.963 (-52%)
07./03. [PSP] Toukiden <ACT> (Koei Tecmo) {2013.06.27} (¥5.040) - 19.262 / 118.404 (-42%)
08./00. [PS3] Dead Island: Riptide <ADV> (Spike Chunsoft) {2013.07.11} (¥7.329) - 18.462 / NEW
09./00. [PS3] Metal Gear Solid: The Legacy Collection <ADV> (Konami) {2013.07.11} (¥7.980) - 17.599 / NEW
10./07. [3DS] Donkey Kong Country Returns 3D <ACT> (Nintendo) {2013.06.13} (¥4.800) - 12.963 / 206.322 (-31%)
11./04. [PS3] Gundam Breaker <ACT> (Bandai Namco Games) {2013.06.27} (¥7.980) - 10.224 / 242.819 (-68%)
12./11. [3DS] Animal Crossing: New Leaf # <ETC> (Nintendo) {2012.11.08} (¥4.800) - 10.088 / 3.325.123 (-11%)
13./12. [3DS] Luigi's Mansion: Dark Moon <ACT> (Nintendo) {2013.03.20} (¥4.800) - 9.184 / 825.026 (-15%)
14./08. [PS3] The Last of Us <ADV> (Sony Computer Entertainment) {2013.06.20} (¥5.980) - 9.158 / 173.181 (-35%)
15./00. [PSP] Hanayaka Kana, Ware ga Ichizoku - Tasogare Polarstar # <ADV> (Idea Factory) {2013.07.11} (¥6.090) - 9.046 / NEW
16./20. [PSP] Dangan-Ronpa (PSP the Best) # <ADV> (Spike) {2011.11.23} (¥2.940) - 6.106 / 91.204 (+67%)
17./13. [3DS] Digimon World Re:Digitize Decode <RPG> (Bandai Namco Games) {2013.06.27} (¥5.480) - 5.912 / 50.952 (-45%)
18./10. [3DS] Etrian Odyssey Untold: The Millenium Girl <RPG> (Atlus) {2013.06.27} (¥6.279) - 5.870 / 106.914 (-54%)
19./15. [WII] Taiko no Tatsujin Wii: Super Deluxe Edition # <ACT> (Bandai Namco Games) {2012.11.29} (¥5.040) - 5.203 / 516.866 (+12%)
20./14. [PS3] Atelier Escha & Logy: The Alchemist of Empty Twilight # <RPG> (Gust) {2013.06.27} (¥7.140) - 5.031 / 72.873 (-51%)

3DS LL   29,594
Wii U   22,199
Vita   15,662
3DS   13,841
PS3   12,698
PSP   5,830
Wii   1,434
Xbox 360   396


 :miyamoto



Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Human Snorenado on July 17, 2013, 12:40:05 PM
Cool story, bro.  Now that everyone who has a Weeoooooooooo bought the game, the console can go back to sales slumber next period.   :paul
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: hampster on July 17, 2013, 01:23:23 PM
Very impressive numbers considering Japan is in a heat wave :whew
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on July 17, 2013, 02:15:19 PM
That's the Pikmin bump? 15k?

 :dead
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Shaka Khan on July 17, 2013, 05:53:19 PM
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=71047806&postcount=38

That guy is the founder of serebii. In other words, the special fellow SUPREME!
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Phoenix Dark on July 17, 2013, 06:08:32 PM
Quote from: Shaka Khan on July 17, 2013, 05:53:19 PM
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=71047806&postcount=38

That guy is the founder of serebii. In other words, the special fellow SUPREME!
:dead

RIP
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Eel O'Brian on July 17, 2013, 06:23:05 PM
gotta factor all the factors
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: thisismyusername on July 17, 2013, 06:24:40 PM
Quote from: Shaka Khan on July 17, 2013, 05:53:19 PM
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=71047806&postcount=38

That guy is the founder of serebii. In other words, the special fellow SUPREME!

Why isn't he using Serebii at GAF? More so, why isn't he using the proper English name: Celebi?  :-\
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Great Rumbler on July 17, 2013, 06:26:29 PM
Quote from: thisismyusername on July 17, 2013, 06:24:40 PM
More so, why isn't he using the proper English name: Celebi?  :-\

:expert
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: thisismyusername on July 17, 2013, 06:27:26 PM
More like :Andrex

But that's something that's always bothered me.  :'(
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Tasty on July 17, 2013, 06:30:16 PM
Celebi.com was probably already taken or if it wasn't Nintendo would've put the smackdown pretty fast. Nobody cares about the bastardized transliterated version domain.

Plus the whole :japancry thing I suppose.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on July 17, 2013, 07:08:57 PM
Wait for the Wonderful 101...unit bump the week Wonderful 101 comes out
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Joe Molotov on July 17, 2013, 07:13:15 PM
Pikmentum.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: MCD on July 17, 2013, 07:16:03 PM
I'm gonna use the weather to spin X1 bombing. This is genius.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: nudemacusers on July 17, 2013, 10:07:20 PM
Quote from: MCD on July 17, 2013, 07:16:03 PM
I'm gonna use the weather to spin X1 bombing. This is genius.
it does rain a lot in redmond
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Trent Dole on July 17, 2013, 10:14:16 PM
It was just too cold to go outside and buy a xbone this month! Wait for spring and sales will go skyhigh alongside the temperature!
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Joe Molotov on July 17, 2013, 10:23:12 PM
Everyone was out at the ol' watering hole because of the warm weather, dontcha know? And then the Johnson's had that big cookout last weekend.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Phoenix Dark on July 18, 2013, 03:46:17 PM
Xbox One Sells Disappointing 180k In First Month

bubububu November 29th was the coldest day of the year!
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Purple Filth on July 18, 2013, 03:47:55 PM
today is NPD day iirc.

hmmmm
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Joe Molotov on July 18, 2013, 03:55:23 PM
Nintendo Pretty Dead
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Purple Filth on July 18, 2013, 08:26:03 PM
stolen from GAF

Quote
Software

 (New Physical Retail only; across all platforms incl. PC)

 1. The Last Of Us (PS3)** Sony (Corp)
 2. Animal Crossing: New Leaf (3DS) Nintendo
 3. Minecraft (360) Microsoft (Corp)
 4. Call of Duty: Black Ops II (360, PS3, PC, NWU)** Activision Blizzard (Corp)
 5. NBA 2K13 (360, PS3, WII, NWU, PSP, PC)** Take 2 Interactive (Corp)
 6. Injustice: Gods Among Us (360, PS3, NWU)** Warner Bros. Interactive
 7. Donkey Kong Country Returns (3DS, WII) Nintendo
 8. Deadpool (360, PS3) Activision Blizzard (Corp)
 9. Battlefield 3 (360, PS3, PC)** Electronic Arts
 10. Luigi's Mansion: Dark Moon (3DS) Nintendo

 **(includes CE, GOTY editions, bundles, etc. but not those bundled with hardware)


http://www.gamesindustry.biz/article...cent-in-us-npd

Quote
“To quote Nintendo during E3, 'software sells hardware', which is evident in this month's 3DS results. Strong double-digit increases in the 3DS hardware sales were coupled with triple-digit digit increases in software for June sales. 3DS software sales momentum is building due to a steady flow of content over the past few months, leading to positive year-to-date sales results,” NPD analyst Liam Callahan said. “Animal Crossing: New Leaf also sold well in the context of first-party games for the 3DS, having the third highest first-month sales next to two launches from holiday 2011: Mario Kart 7, and Super Mario 3D Land.”

One new piece of hardware NPD started tracking this past month was Ouya. It's been a slow uptake, however. "June 2012 was the first month of retail sales for Ouya (not counting direct sales through ouya.tv) and were relatively light for a new console," Callahan added. "This may be due to the lack of a major marquee title driving consumers to seek out the console, low awareness due to Ouya being a new brand, or low inventory volume due to manufacturing constraints.”

Callahan also put some context around Naughty Dog's hit, The Last of Us: “The Last of Us was the top selling game at retail in the month of June. To put this in context, it had the second highest first-month sales of a PS3 first-party game, after God of War 3 in March 2010. The Last of Us was also the third highest game to launch during the month of June since NPD began tracking sales in 1995.”


Last of Us didn't beat GOW3 numbers but still did well for itself (and excluding digital sales, etc)
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Human Snorenado on July 18, 2013, 08:30:57 PM
Soooo.... don't suppose anyone can post hardware figures before 10 pm tonight?  It's, uh, for science.  Yeah.   :shh
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Purple Filth on July 18, 2013, 08:33:29 PM
Quote from: Creepy Old Guy on July 18, 2013, 08:30:57 PM
Soooo.... don't suppose anyone can post hardware figures before 10 pm tonight?  It's, uh, for science.  Yeah.   :shh

So far

Nintendo 3DS: 225K 
Xbox 360: 140K

From PR and 360 is still top console.

Gotta wait on the rest from cream and maybe our resident grouch.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Human Snorenado on July 18, 2013, 08:36:22 PM
Well, I think I'll just make an educated guess and say the Wii U sold for shit again last month if I don't hear back from anybody. :P
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: radioheadrule83 on July 18, 2013, 08:44:50 PM
Quote from: Creepy Old Guy on July 18, 2013, 08:36:22 PM
Well, I think I'll just make an educated guess and say the Wii U sold for shit again last month if I don't hear back from anybody. :P

If AZ Greg's post wasn't a guess, its possibly done a worse weekly average in the US this month than Japan.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Purple Filth on July 18, 2013, 08:47:04 PM
Quote from: radioheadrule83 on July 18, 2013, 08:44:50 PM
Quote from: Creepy Old Guy on July 18, 2013, 08:36:22 PM
Well, I think I'll just make an educated guess and say the Wii U sold for shit again last month if I don't hear back from anybody. :P

If AZ Greg's post wasn't a guess, its possibly done a worse weekly average in the US this month than Japan.

Greg got banned though so his numbers might be shit.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Steve Youngblood on July 18, 2013, 08:59:17 PM
Yeah. If that number pans out, it's merely a coincidence.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: cool breeze on July 18, 2013, 09:11:09 PM
minecraft 360 retail sold ~350k.  wild considering it's the late retail version of an already successful digital game that's a gimped late port of a successful PC game.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Purple Filth on July 18, 2013, 09:25:30 PM
from cream

Quote
wario ~ 12k
 mc > 350k
 TLOU ~ 985K (2 editions)

not bad.

also Creepy Old guy this seems to be the pecking order for this month.

Quote
3DS - 225K
360 - 140K
PS3 - 108K
Wii - 53K
Wii U - 42K
Vita - 27K
Title: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Shaka Khan on July 18, 2013, 09:49:06 PM
http://m.neogaf.com/showpost.php?p=71459966

This is a serious post, brought to you by the same person who produced this megahit. (http://m.neogaf.com/showthread.php?t=480527) This guy *literally* can't address Nintendo without PR speak. Goddamn. :lol
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: D3RANG3D on July 18, 2013, 09:52:04 PM
Quote from: Shaka Khan on July 18, 2013, 09:49:06 PM
http://m.neogaf.com/showpost.php?p=71459966

This is a serious post, brought to you by the same person who produced this megahit. (http://m.neogaf.com/showthread.php?t=480527)

 :what (http://i.minus.com/iueUweqUgoYM8.png)
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Purple Filth on July 18, 2013, 09:53:40 PM
Quote from: Shaka Khan on July 18, 2013, 09:49:06 PM
http://m.neogaf.com/showpost.php?p=71459966

This is a serious post, brought to you by the same person who produced this megahit. (http://m.neogaf.com/showthread.php?t=480527) This guy *literally* can't address Nintendo without PR speak.

Yea I saw that and was like  :mindblown
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Bebpo on July 18, 2013, 09:53:54 PM
I haven't really been following for a while, but why does PS3 sell so bad in the US?  I would have thought high sales of TLoU would have at least pushed it ahead of Xbox this month.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Purple Filth on July 18, 2013, 09:57:02 PM
Quote from: Bebpo on July 18, 2013, 09:53:54 PM
I haven't really been following for a while, but why does PS3 sell so bad in the US?  I would have thought high sales of TLoU would have at least pushed it ahead of Xbox this month.

I say the headstart plus Xbox live/online
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Human Snorenado on July 18, 2013, 10:00:18 PM
Quote from: Shaka Khan on July 18, 2013, 09:49:06 PM
http://m.neogaf.com/showpost.php?p=71459966

This is a serious post, brought to you by the same person who produced this megahit. (http://m.neogaf.com/showthread.php?t=480527) This guy *literally* can't address Nintendo without PR speak. Goddamn. : lol

Would you rather post at a forum where guys like that can keep pooping up verbal diarrhea unchecked, and someone like me gets banned for calling amirox a big blubbering vag?  Or hang with the cool kids?   
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Mr. Gundam on July 18, 2013, 10:00:33 PM
Deadpool made the top ten? Wow.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Purple Filth on July 18, 2013, 10:16:14 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on July 18, 2013, 09:58:59 PM
it sells that bad everywhere right now.  The hardware market is kaput right now.  New systems are announced, dated, and priced.

Software is dead for the most part, too.  TLoU sold well to the Uncharted crowd, but the thing about them is, they already have PS3s.

It doesn't help that the prices for the systems are still high at this point in their life cycle
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Bebpo on July 18, 2013, 10:35:00 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on July 18, 2013, 09:58:59 PM
it sells that bad everywhere right now.  The hardware market is kaput right now.  New systems are announced, dated, and priced.

Software is dead for the most part, too.  TLoU sold well to the Uncharted crowd, but the thing about them is, they already have PS3s.

Kind of makes me wonder if PS4's advantages are even enough to get it in the household compared to Xbox.  I didn't realize how bad the PS3 name was in the US.  I kind of thought it did shitty for years but now was about on par, if not better, than the X360.  But it looks like PS3 is 2nd class citizen in the west.  Gonna be hard to turn that mentality around with the new systems imo.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Phoenix Dark on July 19, 2013, 12:54:12 AM
Quote from: Shaka Khan on July 18, 2013, 09:49:06 PM
http://m.neogaf.com/showpost.php?p=71459966

This is a serious post, brought to you by the same person who produced this megahit. (http://m.neogaf.com/showthread.php?t=480527) This guy *literally* can't address Nintendo without PR speak. Goddamn. :lol

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Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on July 19, 2013, 08:56:30 AM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on July 18, 2013, 11:01:00 PM
The only time brands mean anything is when all other factors are equal.  In that case, the reigning champion usually wins again.

So this means Playstation will win 4 gens in a row?  :o

Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: nudemacusers on July 19, 2013, 09:47:14 AM
Quote from: Shaka Khan on July 18, 2013, 09:49:06 PM
http://m.neogaf.com/showpost.php?p=71459966

This is a serious post, brought to you by the same person who produced this megahit. (http://m.neogaf.com/showthread.php?t=480527) This guy *literally* can't address Nintendo without PR speak. Goddamn. :lol
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=71460371&postcount=270
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: D3RANG3D on July 26, 2013, 11:24:54 PM
I am curious about whether the only JRPGs that were ever really popular was just FF? I mean Tales of Symphonia sold a million plus but's that what you get with JRPG game starved Ntards. I always see threads like what would it take so JRPGs to be popular again.

Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: D3RANG3D on July 26, 2013, 11:27:02 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on July 26, 2013, 11:26:31 PM
I assume you mean NA sales, right?

In the west in general sorry I didn't specify.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Tasty on July 26, 2013, 11:27:13 PM
Pokemon. :aah
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Tasty on July 27, 2013, 12:14:59 AM
:bow American JRPG taste :bow2
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: originalz on July 27, 2013, 04:09:48 AM
Holy hell Kingdom Hearts GBA sold well, I always thought it looked like some weird cash-in card game.  Was it even any good?
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Positive Touch on July 27, 2013, 07:42:35 AM
i liked it more than the 3d ones i played. good card-based combat system, and a surprisingly lengthy quest.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Human Snorenado on July 27, 2013, 07:44:53 AM
 :yuck American jrpg taste :yuck
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: D3RANG3D on July 27, 2013, 11:00:35 AM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on July 26, 2013, 11:56:40 PM
Quote from: D3RANG3D on July 26, 2013, 11:27:02 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on July 26, 2013, 11:26:31 PM
I assume you mean NA sales, right?

In the west in general sorry I didn't specify.

Well, generally, I can't help you with Euro numbers, but broadly, NA JRPG sales are as follows:

(10 million and under)

Each Pokemon generation as a whole

(5 million and under)

Kingdom Hearts
Pokemon Diamond

(3 million and under)

Kingdom Hearts 2
Most individual Pokemon main games
Final Fantasy 7, 10
Mario & Luigi 3
Super Paper Mario

(2 million and under)

Most other Final Fantasy main games
Paper Mario 2
Pokemon Mystery Dungeon 2 (combined)
Mario & Luigi 1
Kingdom Hearts GBA
Pokemon Mystery Dungeon DS (1)
Crisis Core

(1 million and under)

Star Ocean 3
Kingdom Hearts 358 Days divided by the Square Root of Nomura
Pokemon Mystery Dungeon GBA
Legend of Dragoon
Final Fantasy Tic-Tacs (1, Advance)
Dragon Quest 8
Final Fantasy 3 DS
Pokemon Mystery Dungeon 2 (each version)
Golden Sun 1, 2
Paper Mario: Sticker Star
Mario & Luigi 2
Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles
Chrono Cross
Paper Mario 1

(500k and under)


That is essentially a complete list, going back to the PSX.  I'll have to see what I can find from before then.  As you can see, for a genre they're generally not associated with, Nintendo pretty much runs the show saleswise for JRPGs.

Nintendo lives in their own bubble dont they? :lol
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: magus on July 27, 2013, 11:04:43 AM
Quote from: originalz on July 27, 2013, 04:09:48 AM
Holy hell Kingdom Hearts GBA sold well, I always thought it looked like some weird cash-in card game.  Was it even any good?

it was an okay game but i think it sold more for being the game that actualy bridge kingdom hearts 1 and kingdom hearts 2 plotwise
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: MCD on July 27, 2013, 11:53:12 AM
I stopped playing near the end but yeah, I enjoyed it. The only card based game that hit with me.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Tasty on July 27, 2013, 03:36:53 PM
Quote from: MCD on July 27, 2013, 11:53:12 AM
I stopped playing near the end but yeah, I enjoyed it. The only card based game that hit with me.

Same here. Stopped near the end but enjoyed it for what it was.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: mjemirzian on July 27, 2013, 04:25:29 PM
misplaced post

edit: umm so how bout dem Vita sales? :-[
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on July 27, 2013, 09:52:27 PM
Quote from: mjemirzian on July 27, 2013, 04:25:29 PM
misplaced post

edit: umm so how bout dem Vita sales? :-[

Latest Japanese sales show that the Vita outsold the Wii U last week and Pikmin also dropped 69% over the week before.  Looks like the Japanese heatwave continues to strike :(
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Joe Molotov on July 27, 2013, 10:26:23 PM
Wait till Easter.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: chronovore on July 30, 2013, 09:02:23 AM
WINTER IS COMING.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Pringo on August 15, 2013, 09:06:48 PM
July NPD:

Overall:

Retail sales are down 19% year over year.

Software:

(http://abload.de/img/137660406381bpqzv.jpg)

Nintendo Sales (Digital + Retail):
Animal Crossing: 150K
Luigi’s Mansion: Dark Moon LTD: 820K
NSMBU: 830K

smt4 65k~70k (http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=76608403&postcount=401)
ncaa ~ 650k, 360 ~ 60% (http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=76609839&postcount=439)

Hardware:

Nintendo 3DS: Above 141K (+14%)
Xbox 360: 107K (-47.3%) [Top Selling Console]

Vita < 17k < Wii U < DS < 32k < Wii < 36k (http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=76611535&postcount=485)
Wii U + ~2k = DS (http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=76612095&postcount=505)
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: MCD on August 15, 2013, 09:13:48 PM
Let me be the first:

 :deadpos
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: D3RANG3D on August 15, 2013, 09:32:58 PM
Minecraft U will save it.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Huff on August 15, 2013, 10:13:53 PM
p4g ~ 94k
smtdso ~ 36k
ed4 ~ 32k
smtdssh ~ 30k

tc:uk ~ 233k
tc:utk2 ~ 88k
smt:ds ~ 61k
eo ~ 35k
eo2 ~ 34k
smt:ds2 ~ 33k
smt:sj ~ 28k
eo3 ~ 22k

creamsugar from gaf

how does atlus survive on this stuff.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: MCD on August 15, 2013, 10:16:01 PM
niche expectation.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Himu on August 15, 2013, 10:17:20 PM
Awesome news for SMT4.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Himu on August 15, 2013, 10:21:55 PM
107K for the best selling console? Jesus CHRIST.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: AdmiralViscen on August 15, 2013, 10:44:52 PM
holy shit
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on August 16, 2013, 03:43:37 AM
So Wii U is aroun 20k this month?
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on August 16, 2013, 03:56:16 AM
So japan > Us?  :o

The new consoles need to release like tomorrow, this gen is beyond dead.

What is the combined sales for this gen? 250 million for consoles?
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on August 16, 2013, 04:15:33 AM
I do think to a large extent it's just apathy somehow.

I'm sure the new consoles will do ok over a 5/8 year course again, but I can't help to shake the feeling the world has moved on from console gaming. Maybe not our old ass generation of hardcore gamers, but a large portion of the kids... I dunno.

Maybe we should ask someone thats still in high school.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: archnemesis on August 16, 2013, 04:21:20 AM
The last time I asked high school kids about gaming the raved about the Kinect. I won't make that mistake again.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Himu on August 16, 2013, 04:41:49 AM
Naw, iphone came out 2007. 2008 had a 3 million increase. It's AFTER 2008 when the dip starts.  For reference, ipad is 2010. And holyyyyy shit 2012.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on August 16, 2013, 04:51:56 AM
Not very suprising.

iPads are great for casuals which are the majority of the market.  Even for niche gamers they are becoming quite good (strategy, rpg etc.)

The only thing they can't do atm is competitive games like FPS, Sports, Moba, and games with precise controls etc. All the games that are still selling shitloads on consoles/pc basically.

Quote from: Formerly Known As Himuro on August 16, 2013, 04:41:49 AM
Naw, iphone came out 2007. 2008 had a 3 million increase. It's AFTER 2008 when the dip starts.  For reference, ipad is 2010. And holyyyyy shit 2012.

Just coming out is not enough, it takes a few years before these devices sell enough to impact sales of other devices. Don't forget most of the world uses Android and that came out a few years later still.

I'd say it's right about now that these devices are reaching critical mass worldwide.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Eel O'Brian on August 16, 2013, 06:56:34 AM
iTunes app store started in 2008
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Shaka Khan on August 16, 2013, 07:28:37 AM
2012 and 2013 is where the ~40% drop offs came. Those are what I consider more alarming.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on August 16, 2013, 07:42:03 AM
Quote from: Shaka Khan on August 16, 2013, 07:28:37 AM
2012 and 2013 is where the ~40% drop offs came. Those are what I consider more alarming.

Thats after the ok Android tablets launched (kindle fire, nexus 7)

Also Ipad mini
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: thisismyusername on August 16, 2013, 07:46:58 AM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on August 15, 2013, 10:38:42 PM
their parent company is currently bankrupt and is auctioning off pieces of itself

i guess what i'm saying is that they don't

 ??? ??? Weren't they doing alright before Index bought them out?
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on August 16, 2013, 07:59:33 AM
My anecdotal evidence (aka the best evidence) shows that nobody I know plays games on a console anymore.  They play games on smartphones and tablets.  Some are heavy users, others can just play 15 minutes of Bejeweled and get their gaming fix that way.

The death knell will be when Logitech releases that iPhone controller.  There's still a subset of gamers who hate playing touchscreen games (myself) and with that barrier removed, even more people are going to start moving over.  Also as Google Play continues to get better, that is going to continue the erosion of console gamers.

Not that the Wii U would be any less fucked had none of this been going on.  Nintendo shit the bed on this one, regardless of how many iDevices and heat waves strike it.  If I was Iwata, I'd be fucking embarrassed at those results.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on August 16, 2013, 08:28:24 AM
That Logitech controller will make me play way more on my phone, if games get support.

But things like Sonic, League of Evil etc. witll now be great.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Eel O'Brian on August 16, 2013, 10:30:16 AM
pretty much what I meant was the reason there was no iphone impact on handhelds until 2008 is that there was no app store until then, thus no games for anyone to buy
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Tasty on August 16, 2013, 11:36:39 AM
150k for AC retail+digital seems pretty low for LTD.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Phoenix Dark on August 16, 2013, 01:00:58 PM
You're telling me that old hardware isn't selling anymore, and is in a steady decline? Whoa what a shock!

Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Human Snorenado on August 16, 2013, 01:04:27 PM
Quote from: Phoenix Dark on August 16, 2013, 01:00:58 PM
You're telling me that old hardware isn't selling anymore, and is in a steady decline? Whoa what a shock!

The Wii U isn't old hardware, though!

(I somehow managed to type that with a straight face)
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on August 16, 2013, 01:15:40 PM
Looks like game over for traditional(console) gaming industry.

Good riddance.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Shaka Khan on August 16, 2013, 02:06:18 PM
Quote from: Andrex on August 16, 2013, 11:36:39 AM
150k for AC retail+digital seems pretty low for LTD.

That's because it's not, it's July's number that got mixed in with NSMBU and LM's LTDs.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Tasty on August 16, 2013, 02:56:34 PM
Quote from: Shaka Khan on August 16, 2013, 02:06:18 PM
Quote from: Andrex on August 16, 2013, 11:36:39 AM
150k for AC retail+digital seems pretty low for LTD.

That's because it's not, it's July's number that got mixed in with NSMBU and LM's LTDs.

Oh.

:piss Pringo :piss2

Seems to be doing pretty good then. Wonder how it compares to City Folk? Anecdotally it seems like the handheld ACs are much bigger deals than the console ones.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on August 16, 2013, 04:08:31 PM
Man, I remember a few years ago when it was just, "Kids don't have a DS anymore, they have an iPod Touch!"

Now I can't remember the last time I saw a kid in public WITHOUT an iPad. It's gone from "the new thing kids have" to "the new thing kids ARE"
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Steve Youngblood on August 16, 2013, 04:10:19 PM
Quote from: Howard Alan Treesong on August 16, 2013, 04:08:31 PM
Man, I remember a few years ago when it was just, "Kids don't have a DS anymore, they have an iPod Touch!"

Now I can't remember the last time I saw a kid in public WITHOUT an iPad. It's gone from "the new thing kids have" to "the new thing kids ARE"

My kid is 22 months old and already seems to be addicted to our iPad. We limit his time with it as much as possible, but when he has that thing he's pretty much just in his own little world.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on August 16, 2013, 04:11:14 PM
yeah, it's crazy, I think even the generation growing up now (< 4 years old) is going to have a VERY different relationship with technology than the generation that didn't get iPads til they were 15
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: cool breeze on August 16, 2013, 04:34:47 PM
yeah, years ago I argued with a friend that she was spoiling her children by giving them ipads.  in retrospect I was that guy telling a parent not to vaccinate their children.  can't believe how normal it's become.

 
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: MCD on August 16, 2013, 05:12:40 PM
My bro's kid was playing Minecraft on his iPad.

I was legit shocked because I didn't expect him to go from SHOOTERS to Minecraft this fast.

Damn kids are scary. And yeah, these kids never used a computer whatsoever.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on August 16, 2013, 06:18:53 PM
Quote from: Howard Alan Treesong on August 16, 2013, 04:08:31 PM
Man, I remember a few years ago when it was just, "Kids don't have a DS anymore, they have an iPod Touch!"

Now I can't remember the last time I saw a kid in public WITHOUT an iPad. It's gone from "the new thing kids have" to "the new thing kids ARE"

And that is why Nintendo is so fucked.  It seems like their core model was bringing in little kids to replace the outflow of older gamers who went to Sony or Microsoft.  Now that kids are going to iOS and Android, that well is rapidly drying up.  All they have are nostalgic Nintards reliving their childhoods and people who just buy every console or handheld because they have that kind of spare income.

I admire Iwata for not committing seppuku at this point.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on August 16, 2013, 06:31:04 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on August 16, 2013, 06:06:04 PM
Quote from: Phoenix Dark on August 16, 2013, 01:00:58 PM
You're telling me that old hardware isn't selling anymore, and is in a steady decline? Whoa what a shock!

It's not in steady decline, it's in free fall.  And the three pieces of new hardware introduced so far have completely floundered.  And software is also in the toilet.  We have literally never seen percent declines this steep year over year over year since the mid-80s.

But sure, nothing's wrong that more new hardware won't fix.  I'm sure people will give up their smartphones and tablets with their embarrassment of free/cheap games for new consoles from Sony and MS with $60-70 games again.

thanks for reminding me I need to cancel my PlayStation 4 pre-order
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on August 16, 2013, 06:47:34 PM
Not even going to bother with the PS4 or Xbone.

PC all the way for me!
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on August 16, 2013, 06:48:46 PM
Quote from: The Experiment on August 16, 2013, 06:47:34 PM
Not even going to bother with the PS4 or Xbone.

PC all the way for me!

Yeah, I realized I'd MUCH rather put that $400 toward building HTPC 3.0 sooner
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: tiesto on August 16, 2013, 07:04:53 PM
Quote from: Howard Alan Treesong on August 16, 2013, 04:08:31 PM
Man, I remember a few years ago when it was just, "Kids don't have a DS anymore, they have an iPod Touch!"

Now I can't remember the last time I saw a kid in public WITHOUT an iPad. It's gone from "the new thing kids have" to "the new thing kids ARE"

I have no idea how parents let their little kids walk around with a $500 piece of technology... perhaps I'm out of touch, perhaps my parents were a bit strict... but if I asked my dad for a $500 piece of tech he would have looked at me like I was on crack (same with my friends and we all lived fairly spoiled upper middle class suburban lifestyles). And I was really responsible and took care of my shit even as a youngin.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: MCD on August 16, 2013, 07:06:43 PM
plenty of spare tablets to throw at kids. you are doing it wrong if you are buying one now.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Phoenix Dark on August 16, 2013, 09:27:01 PM
Quote from: Howard Alan Treesong on August 16, 2013, 06:48:46 PM
Quote from: The Experiment on August 16, 2013, 06:47:34 PM
Not even going to bother with the PS4 or Xbone.

PC all the way for me!

Yeah, I realized I'd MUCH rather put that $400 toward building HTPC 3.0 sooner

sounds like a Kickstarter I'd support.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Himu on August 16, 2013, 11:09:26 PM
I cancelled my ps4 pre order.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: headwalk on August 17, 2013, 12:32:48 AM
it's going to be cheaper for me to just swap out my videocard whenever stuff demands it anyway, so the idea of buying a next gen console just feels like paying $400+$50 a year for a USB key to unlock a fistful  of mediocre exclusives.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on August 17, 2013, 02:50:45 AM
Quote from: headwalk on August 17, 2013, 12:32:48 AM
it's going to be cheaper for me to just swap out my videocard whenever stuff demands it anyway, so the idea of buying a next gen console just feels like paying $400+$50 a year for a USB key to unlock a fistful  of mediocre exclusives.

...that will be on the PC in 3-6 months, anyway
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: archie4208 on August 28, 2013, 09:22:55 AM
14./00. [WIU] The Wonderful 101 <ACT> (Nintendo) {2013.08.24} (¥6.830) - 5.258 / NEW

That's bad.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Rufus on August 28, 2013, 09:26:40 AM
Welp, shoulda stuck with the original idea of using Nintendo characters.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on August 28, 2013, 09:51:45 AM
It's very hot in Japan now.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Joe Molotov on August 28, 2013, 10:36:48 AM
The Wonderful 5258
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: magus on August 28, 2013, 11:00:38 AM
Quote from: Joe Molotov on August 28, 2013, 10:36:48 AM
The Wonderful 5258

10/10
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on August 28, 2013, 11:21:23 AM
I remember Nintards being all puzzled when only 30,000 copies were going to get shipped out initially.  Sounds like even that was too much.

Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Tasty on August 28, 2013, 12:33:54 PM
Quote from: Rufus on August 28, 2013, 09:26:40 AM
Welp, shoulda stuck with the original idea of using Nintendo characters.

Then it would have sold 10k.

Wii U software sales are, uh, pretty bad.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Rufus on August 28, 2013, 12:39:52 PM
Well... :paul
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Mr. Gundam on August 28, 2013, 02:59:56 PM
Quote from: Andrex on August 28, 2013, 12:33:54 PM
Quote from: Rufus on August 28, 2013, 09:26:40 AM
Welp, shoulda stuck with the original idea of using Nintendo characters.

Then it would have sold 10k.

Wii U software sales are, uh, pretty bad.

And this is new information to you?

To be honest, I thought the game would sell better than that.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Tasty on August 28, 2013, 03:02:02 PM
What about my post indicated I thought that was new information?
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on August 29, 2013, 12:24:07 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on August 16, 2013, 04:27:05 AM
2005: 900k+
2006: 1.2 million+
2007: 1.7 million+
2008: 2 million+
2009: 1.3 million+
2010: 1.2 million+
2011: 1 million+
2012: 600k+
2013: 360k

that should paint the picture nicely

man, looks like things starting coincidentally going sour once the iphone came out, then really shit the bed once ipad came out

fancy zat

are those US sales? I'm arguing with someone who does't think there's been a shift in kid spending/playing habits to tablets and that my saying so is "privilege"
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on August 29, 2013, 12:26:37 PM
Yeah that's US
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Mr. Gundam on August 29, 2013, 12:35:00 PM
Quote from: Howard Alan Treesong on August 29, 2013, 12:24:07 PM
are those US sales? I'm arguing with someone who does't think there's been a shift in kid spending/playing habits to tablets and that my saying so is "privilege"

Does that someone know anyone with kids? I see way more kids messing around with tablets and smartphones than traditional handheld game systems.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on August 29, 2013, 12:57:26 PM
Quote from: Mr. Gundam on August 29, 2013, 12:35:00 PM
Quote from: Howard Alan Treesong on August 29, 2013, 12:24:07 PM
are those US sales? I'm arguing with someone who does't think there's been a shift in kid spending/playing habits to tablets and that my saying so is "privilege"

Does that someone know anyone with kids? I see way more kids messing around with tablets and smartphones than traditional handheld game systems.

I SAID THIS EXACTLY, I asked if they had actually seen any children lately or were just making assumptions, but again I am speaking from a position of white privilege to say that every single fucking kid in the world now has a tablet

I pointed out that a proprietary platform used only for $40 games seemed a lot more privileged to me ... we're probably not on speaking terms any more
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on August 29, 2013, 12:59:21 PM
but if Oscar could provide units for that it would be awesome, my assumption is averaged (or identical) NPD quarterly sales for US
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Mr. Gundam on August 29, 2013, 01:01:03 PM
I work at both a middle school and a high school. In the cafeteria before classes start in the mornigns, I see lots of kids playing around with their iPhones and Androids, and a tablet here and there (guessing most kids are smart enough to leave them at home to prevent theft). I rarely ever see a kid with a PSP/Vita/DS/3DS, and honestly, the ones who do have handhelds systems are pretty hardcore nerdy gamer types.

My 18-month old daughter thinks the PS3 controller is pretty awesome to run around the house with, but she loves the iPad. Holy crap does she love it, and we don't let her play with it very much.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on August 29, 2013, 01:35:06 PM
I don't see many kids, but when I do, they have their mothers/dads smartphone/tablet.

I don't remember when I saw kids in the gaming age bracket.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Positive Touch on August 29, 2013, 05:06:00 PM
getting a used ds and games for it is still cheaper than buying a used ipad. i only see apple trash in houses that have money. however, kindle fires are a more affordable and still a cooler alternative to a nintendo, and i see a lot more of those around. i dont see kids all over the place with tablets, but most parents i know are getting those for their kids as opposed to old and busted handhelds.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Mr. Gundam on August 29, 2013, 07:28:20 PM
I don't see nearly as many kids out (airports, restaurants, etc.) and about playing their pokeymanz on nintendos. They're all pacified by their parents iPhones/Androids or their own iPod touches/etc.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: tiesto on August 29, 2013, 09:51:43 PM
When I was at Otakon a few weeks ago, everyone and their mother had a 3DS.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Tasty on August 29, 2013, 09:53:46 PM
Quote from: tiesto on August 29, 2013, 09:51:43 PM
When I was at Otakon a few weeks ago, everyone and their mother had a 3DS.

 :expert :miyamoto
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Shaka Khan on August 29, 2013, 09:53:50 PM
Quote from: Howard Alan Treesong on August 29, 2013, 12:57:26 PM
Quote from: Mr. Gundam on August 29, 2013, 12:35:00 PM
Quote from: Howard Alan Treesong on August 29, 2013, 12:24:07 PM
are those US sales? I'm arguing with someone who does't think there's been a shift in kid spending/playing habits to tablets and that my saying so is "privilege"

Does that someone know anyone with kids? I see way more kids messing around with tablets and smartphones than traditional handheld game systems.

I SAID THIS EXACTLY, I asked if they had actually seen any children lately or were just making assumptions, but again I am speaking from a position of white privilege to say that every single fucking kid in the world now has a tablet

I pointed out that a proprietary platform used only for $40 games seemed a lot more privileged to me ... we're probably not on speaking terms any more

I speak from brown privilege and the iPad 2 I bought for my baby sisters last year was recently replaced by an iPad Mini.

One of them heard of the new "Gameboy" and think it's "cool", but it wasn't for her since it can't play her scammy girl-pandering f2p games, instagram and stream videos/youtube/music (even though it does?).
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: chronovore on August 29, 2013, 10:41:41 PM
Quote from: Premium Lager on August 28, 2013, 09:51:45 AM
It's very hot in Japan now.

It is pretty fucking hot, I will give you that.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on August 30, 2013, 02:28:51 AM
Quote from: tiesto on August 29, 2013, 09:51:43 PM
When I was at Otakon a few weeks ago, everyone and their mother had a 3DS.

 :lol
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on August 30, 2013, 03:18:27 AM
Now imagine if he never had a DS in the first place, would you pick him up a DS or a phone/touch/tablet?
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Tasty on August 30, 2013, 10:15:42 AM
Oscar Jr. has taste.

:bow Pokemon :bow2
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cascade on September 11, 2013, 03:20:30 PM
Puppeteer flopping, should have been a Vita game. Wii U edging closer to its first 4K week:

Code: [Select]
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|System | This Week  | Last Week  | Last Year  |     YTD    |  Last YTD  |     LTD     |
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| 3DS # |     79.191 |     67.022 |     64.159 |  2.536.671 |  3.059.106 |  12.316.551 |
|  PS3  |     13.790 |     20.090 |     11.813 |    605.864 |    777.991 |   9.465.948 |
|  PSV  |      7.314 |      8.405 |     14.106 |    692.892 |    519.554 |   1.823.717 |
|  WIU  |      5.702 |      6.741 |            |    440.612 |            |   1.067.899 |
| PSP # |      5.493 |      6.218 |      9.065 |    358.117 |    557.689 |  19.987.128 |
|  WII  |        978 |      1.141 |      6.958 |     58.115 |    385.611 |  12.696.951 |
|  360  |        201 |        177 |        815 |     18.181 |     48.512 |   1.632.015 |
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
|  ALL  |    112.669 |    109.794 |    109.263 |  4.710.452 |  5.449.852 |  58.990.209 |
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| 3DSLL |     60.077 |     49.149 |     38.913 |  1.662.722 |    526.563 |   3.753.093 |
|  3DS  |     19.114 |     17.873 |     25.246 |    873.949 |  2.532.543 |   8.563.458 |
|  PSP  |      5.493 |      6.218 |      9.065 |    358.117 |    557.689 |  19.811.141 |
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01./00. [PSP] Uta no Prince-Sama: Music 2 # <ACT> (Broccoli) {2013.09.05} (¥3.990) - 68.415 / NEW
02./00. [PS3] Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell: Blacklist <ACT> (Ubisoft) {2013.09.05} (¥7.770) - 22.425 / NEW
03./01. [PS3] JoJo's Bizarre Adventure: All-Star Battle # <FTG> (Bandai Namco Games) {2013.08.29} (¥7.980) - 19.720 / 445.437 (-95%)
04./00. [PS3] Dead or Alive 5: Ultimate # <FTG> (Koei Tecmo) {2013.09.05} (¥6.090) - 18.608 / NEW
05./02. [PS3] Final Fantasy XIV Online: A Real Reborn # <RPG> (Square Enix) {2013.08.27} (¥3.300) - 12.336 / 196.354 (-93%)
06./07. [3DS] Friend Collection: New Life # <ETC> (Nintendo) {2013.04.18} (¥4.800) - 11.814 / 1.420.996 (-18%)
07./06. [3DS] Mario & Luigi: Dream Team # <RPG> (Nintendo) {2013.07.18} (¥4.800) - 11.466 / 293.166 (-31%)
08./00. [PSV] Killzone: Mercenary <ACT> (Sony Computer Entertainment) {2013.09.05} (¥4.980) - 11.053 / NEW
09./05. [3DS] Disney Magic Castle: My Happy Life # <ETC> (Bandai Namco Games) {2013.08.01} (¥5.480) - 10.740 / 255.309 (-37%)
10./09. [3DS] Youkai Watch <RPG> (Level 5) {2013.07.11} (¥4.800) - 9.539 / 164.230 (-12%)
11./03. [PSV] Ragnarok Odyssey Ace <ACT> (GungHo Online Entertainment) {2013.08.29} (¥4.935) - 9.383 / 41.005 (-70%)
12./00. [PS3] Puppeteer <ACT> (Sony Computer Entertainment) {2013.09.05} (¥5.980) - 8.900 / NEW
13./10. [3DS] Animal Crossing: New Leaf # <ETC> (Nintendo) {2012.11.08} (¥4.800) - 7.653 / 3.402.742 (-12%)
14./12. [3DS] Luigi's Mansion: Dark Moon <ACT> (Nintendo) {2013.03.20} (¥4.800) - 6.010 / 891.248 (-12%)
15./04. [PS3] Lost Planet 3 <ACT> (Capcom) {2013.08.29} (¥6.990) - 5.516 / 33.019 (-80%)
16./00. [PSP] Kiyoka no Ori: Hiiro no Kakera 4 - Shiki no Shi # <ADV> (Idea Factory) {2013.09.05} (¥6.090) - 5.348 / NEW
17./00. [360] Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell: Blacklist <ACT> (Ubisoft) {2013.09.05} (¥7.770) - 5.109 / NEW
18./00. [360] Dead or Alive 5: Ultimate # <FTG> (Koei Tecmo) {2013.09.05} (¥6.090) - 4.862 / NEW
19./14. [3DS] Mario Kart 7 <RCE> (Nintendo) {2011.12.01} (¥4.800) - 4.260 / 2.116.096 (-20%)
20./18. [WII] Taiko no Tatsujin Wii: Super Deluxe Edition # <ACT> (Bandai Namco Games) {2012.11.29} (¥5.040) - 3.717 / 557.290 (-12%)
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Tasty on September 11, 2013, 03:27:06 PM
Quote
Friend Collection: New Life

Sounds like the game I've always wanted. :japancry
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Himu on September 11, 2013, 06:19:02 PM
My friends with kids, none of their kids play with 3ds and especially Vita's. The last time I saw a kid with a ds, was at Pizza Hut in...April. My friend brought his kid and his wife to the place where we watched SummerSlam last month and that kid was glued to the tablet they brought.

New FFXIV is that bad?
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Great Rumbler on September 11, 2013, 06:21:46 PM
Quote from: Formerly Known As Himuro on September 11, 2013, 06:19:02 PM
New FFXIV is that bad?

Just really average.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Bebpo on September 11, 2013, 06:28:37 PM
Is the FFXIV drop because it's average/bad or because the servers weren't working?
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: archnemesis on September 11, 2013, 06:44:32 PM
It's probably a combination. I played it for a couple hours, but there is nothing in it that makes me want to log in again.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Tasty on September 11, 2013, 06:54:26 PM
Man I wish Londa were here.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: thisismyusername on September 11, 2013, 07:22:50 PM
Quote from: Bebpo on September 11, 2013, 06:28:37 PM
Is the FFXIV drop because it's average/bad or because the servers weren't working?

Probably a mix of both. The beta I played wasn't bad, and a remarkable improvement in GUI compared to 1.0, but it didn't scream "subscribe to me!" just like 1.0 didn't (and I never even played 1.0, just saw Youtubes of it)
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: DCharlieJP on September 11, 2013, 08:28:03 PM
Quote
Holy hell at those second week 90%+ drops on JoJo and FF.  that is indicative of some seriously bad word of mouth.

that might be true of Jojo, but that's certainly not the case for FF.

There's been no PS3 version restock after an initial circa 200k shipment and digital downloads have been suspended. This is SE controlled and there'll be no further sales until they fix the server situation (that they've publically apologised for). It's sold out everywhere you go (or at least has been the last X days)

Also - word of mouth is good because, i know - it's a surprise to me too, FF14 is pretty darned good. I know, right? It's so good my wife started playing games on something that's not a portable again.

Jojo though - man - second hand copies at sub 3000 yen one week after and a GLUT of them. that 40/40!

 
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Mr. Gundam on September 11, 2013, 08:31:22 PM
Quote from: DCharlieJP on September 11, 2013, 08:28:03 PM

Jojo though - man - second hand copies at sub 3000 yen one week after and a GLUT of them. that 40/40!

So I'll be able to pick it up for 100 yen in April?  ;)
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: DCharlieJP on September 11, 2013, 08:35:55 PM
yeah, it'll be swimming in bargain bins alongside Lost Planet 3 at around 980yen by then
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: hampster on September 12, 2013, 06:39:48 PM
Quote
Hardware:

Xbox 360: 96K (-50.3%) Best Selling Console (http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=676577)

:fbm

Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Tasty on September 12, 2013, 06:48:06 PM
Quote from: hampster on September 12, 2013, 06:39:48 PM
Quote
Hardware:

Xbox 360: 96K (-50.3%) Best Selling Console (http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=676577)

:fbm

 :kobeyuck
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Raban on September 12, 2013, 06:50:15 PM
-50.3% :stahp
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: cool breeze on September 12, 2013, 07:00:15 PM
 :dead

the consoles haven't had a significant price drop in some time and are in the 7th year.  Xbox 360 has been $200 for 5 years. 
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on September 12, 2013, 08:03:47 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on September 12, 2013, 08:01:01 PM
can't wait to see the excuses when the new consoles are out and underperforming

At this point I'm expecting PS4 to underperform and Xbox One to under-underperform
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: DCharlieJP on September 12, 2013, 08:06:17 PM
Quote
can't wait to see the excuses when the new consoles are out and underperforming

i think both Sony and MS will be one step ahead of that game and will deliberately undership to change the narative to "WHAT A SELLOUT! PHEW!"
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: pilonv1 on September 12, 2013, 08:18:29 PM
Quote from: DCharlieJP on September 12, 2013, 08:06:17 PM
Quote
can't wait to see the excuses when the new consoles are out and underperforming

i think both Sony and MS will be one step ahead of that game and will deliberately undership to change the narative to "WHAT A SELLOUT! PHEW!"


They'll probably just use unverifiable internal numbers

"x million accounts created, x hours of games played"
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: cool breeze on September 12, 2013, 08:31:51 PM
Quote from: Howard Alan Treesong on September 12, 2013, 08:03:47 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on September 12, 2013, 08:01:01 PM
can't wait to see the excuses when the new consoles are out and underperforming

At this point I'm expecting PS4 to underperform and Xbox One to under-underperform

(http://i.minus.com/ib24OD6Evojt3T.png)

fish gets bigger, pond gets smaller.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Purple Filth on September 12, 2013, 10:00:53 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on September 12, 2013, 08:01:01 PM
can't wait to see the excuses when the new consoles are out and underperforming

i'll be laughing while chillin like a villain in PC land  :obama
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Pringo on September 13, 2013, 12:01:15 AM
Approximate numbers from GAF (http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=81549405&postcount=1025):

3DS: > 130K
360: 96K
PS3: 71K
Wii: 32.4K
Wii U: 30.5K
PSV: 29K
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Phoenix Dark on September 13, 2013, 12:02:46 AM
Pikmin, system seller.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Tasty on September 13, 2013, 12:48:20 AM
Apparently 3DS first party sales have been great this summer. :rejoice

If you combine physical and digital. :teehee

Quote
According to Nintendo, 190,000 copies of Mario & Luigi: Dream Team were sold in August (combining physical and digital sales), while Pikmin 3 sold 115,000. New Super Luigi U has sold 120,000 combined units across physical and digital.

Nintendo reports that the following 3DS games have sold at least 250,000 combined copies so far in 2013:

Luigi's Mansion: Dark Moon (863,000)
Animal Crossing: New Leaf (739,000)
New Super Mario Bros. 2 (406,000 in 2013, 1.85 million total)
Fire Emblem Awakening (390,000)
Mario Kart 7 (352,000 in 2013, 2.84 million total)
Pokemon Mystery Dungeon: Gates to Infinity (298,000)
Donkey Kong Country Returns 3D (268,000)
Super Mario 3D Land (265,000 in 2013, 2.86 million total)
LEGO City Undercover: The Chase Begins (264,000)

Didn't peg NSLU to sell that much, and DKCR 3D sounds about right for what it is. If you had told me a year ago FE would bring those kinda numbers I wouldn't have believed you.

Mario 3D Land still up over NSMB2 is a nice surprise, wonder when (or if) that'll change.

Pokemon XY are going to explode.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Tasty on September 13, 2013, 01:14:30 AM
Guess peeps have moved on from Mario. All about dat Weegi now. :obama
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Tasty on September 13, 2013, 01:34:29 AM
I can't tell if America likes FE. Seems like it's more dependent on the game contents itself/marketing (Awakening had a great commercial airing all the time when it came out, don't remember anything for SD or the Wii game.)

Or maybe just positioning? I only picked it up because of great word of mouth and there was nothing else to play that month.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Tasty on September 13, 2013, 01:43:31 AM
You think internet nerdbases can affect things that much?

I also just realized Awakening was my first ever FE game. Dat :uguu

I remember being slightly excited for SD, but by the time it came out I just wasn't interested (and the art style did seem pretty lame.)
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Tasty on September 13, 2013, 02:25:00 AM
Then why we no got Mother? :(

(Though I suspect 3 will appear in the US, in some form, this gen... somehow.)
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on September 13, 2013, 03:53:32 AM
Vita price cut effect

:violin

Can't wait for VitaTV spin.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: mjemirzian on September 13, 2013, 04:02:38 AM
It's a shame FE12 wasn't localized, it's one of the best in the series imo. I'd like to see the next FE regain some of that gameplay variety/balance/challenge that was missing in Awakening.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: archie4208 on September 13, 2013, 06:23:36 AM
So what happens when PS4 and Xbox One have fairly tepid sales this time next year?
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on September 13, 2013, 06:34:26 AM
Quote from: archie4208 link=topic=37709.msg1756006#msg1756006 date=137906781cu6
So what happens when PS4 and Xbox One have fairly tepid sales this time next year?

Lots of internet drama,especially from one specific fantard club.

Real world?

Nothing,business as usual.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: archnemesis on September 13, 2013, 06:46:20 AM
They also used "Microsoft Xbox" instead of Xbox One.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cascade on September 13, 2013, 10:48:04 AM
[Wii U] Splinter Cell: Blacklist < 5k
 :dead :dead :dead :dead :dead :dead :dead :dead :dead :dead :dead :deadpos :deadpos :deadpos :deadpos :deadpos

Seriously, this thing is done. Andrex, Radiohead, could you give me even ONE excuse for why a third party should make a game for Wii U? Even the Vita has a small reason for existence by giving indies mild successes and that thing is selling just as badly.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: thisismyusername on September 13, 2013, 10:54:14 AM
Hahaha, I didn't think it'd do that badly but launch day I saw a ton of people buying the 360/PS3 versions and no one buying the Wii U copies.  :lol

Of course, to defend/spin the Wii U version for Radiohead and Andy: The online is completely broke and it took two patches to fix it (if it is, I can't give a damn about that version to keep up with it) so that harmed it even more.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Tasty on September 13, 2013, 10:58:25 AM
Why do you people always ask me about this stuff? How should I know? ::)
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Steve Youngblood on September 13, 2013, 11:02:57 AM
I'll handle this, Andy. What did you guys expect? I don't know what's up with all these third parties releasing shoddy ports, but if you're not going to treat Wii U customers well, they're not going to buy your game. And when you leave out absolutely critical functionality like local co-op, what do you expect?
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cascade on September 13, 2013, 11:08:38 AM
Quote from: Steve Youngblood on September 13, 2013, 11:02:57 AM
I'll handle this, Andy. What did you guys expect? I don't know what's up with all these third parties releasing shoddy ports, but if you're not going to treat Wii U customers well, they're not going to buy your game. And when you leave out absolutely critical functionality like local co-op, what do you expect?
This better be a GAF repost.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Steve Youngblood on September 13, 2013, 11:10:47 AM
Quote from: Cascade on September 13, 2013, 11:08:38 AM
Quote from: Steve Youngblood on September 13, 2013, 11:02:57 AM
I'll handle this, Andy. What did you guys expect? I don't know what's up with all these third parties releasing shoddy ports, but if you're not going to treat Wii U customers well, they're not going to buy your game. And when you leave out absolutely critical functionality like local co-op, what do you expect?
This better be a GAF repost.

Well, it's not, but I was of course being sarcastic all the same.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Stoney Mason on September 13, 2013, 11:10:50 AM
It's a repost of every Nintendo poster on GAF for the last 5 to 10 years.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Purple Filth on September 16, 2013, 09:26:03 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on September 16, 2013, 09:23:43 PM
Monster Hunter 4 sold over 2 million in its first four days.  Pretty much cemented now as Japan's new DQ.  Capcom's gotta be loving that.

Just wanna know when is this gonna hit stateside before picking up a 3ds
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Tasty on September 16, 2013, 09:29:19 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on September 16, 2013, 09:23:43 PM
Monster Hunter 4 sold over 2 million in its first four days.  Pretty much cemented now as Japan's new DQ.  Capcom's gotta be loving that.

I remember my friend trying to spin the series as being in downfall because of moving to Nintendo systems... lol.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Tasty on September 16, 2013, 09:31:47 PM
Quote from: Purple Filth on September 16, 2013, 09:26:03 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on September 16, 2013, 09:23:43 PM
Monster Hunter 4 sold over 2 million in its first four days.  Pretty much cemented now as Japan's new DQ.  Capcom's gotta be loving that.

Just wanna know when is this gonna hit stateside before picking up a 3ds

Gonna be a year wait at least I'd bet, you might as well should just get MH3U (2013 GOTY.)
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Tasty on September 16, 2013, 09:38:22 PM
Have any of the console entries sold more than Tri (WW and JP)? (Honestly asking.)

Probably MH2, maybe? Frontier?
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Shaka Khan on September 16, 2013, 09:39:35 PM
Did it surpass 3G's LTD in those 4 days? Anyhow, I'm really glad the series and now its fans are proving to be platform agnostic— that should put a lot of dumb arguments to rest.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Himu on September 16, 2013, 09:40:50 PM
I really hope this means more console versions being brought to the (non wii u) hd consoles or preferably pc.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Tasty on September 16, 2013, 09:56:31 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on September 16, 2013, 09:46:11 PM
Quote from: Andrex on September 16, 2013, 09:38:22 PM
Have any of the console entries sold more than Tri (WW and JP)? (Honestly asking.)

Probably MH2, maybe? Frontier?

No, Tri sold the most of the home versions.  The takeaway here is that, like Animal Crossing, the home console fanbase for the series just isn't as strong as the portable fanbase, and thus, consoles should be relegated to side versions and/or HD ports.

Agreed.

Wherever 4 HD ends up, it absolutely must have save syncing with the 3DS version. It would be Wii U/PS4/Xbone but that feature is absolutely crucial for me in MH3U. I'd probably have played it about 50% less without that feature.

Then again, I play it on Wii U mostly for online, and MH4 already has online... hmm. Dunno how that will shake out that.

Hopefully 8-4 gets it over here ASAP.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: DCharlieJP on September 17, 2013, 12:51:35 AM
i'm sure the next project is basically MH4G

MH4, even early on, destroys MH3G and i'm glad skipping it (despite buying it multiple times) made everything feel fresher, but truth is that it does feel a darn sight different.

I'm not rushing things - basically this is a 1000+ hour experience so there's no point getting too het up about progress. So far, 8 hours on the clock and the HR1 dosjaggi fight with base armour and weaponry was ZOMG ZOMG ZOMG ZOMG levels of brilliant. It's hard to put into words why it's so much better, but there was more cat and mouse chasing, the variable height adds a ton of different tactics, the Jaggi bolting through a column and smashing it was :O, my two cats jumping on it and holding on for deal life as it swung to throw them off.... droooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool.

Game is solid sold out in shinjuku, aki, shibuya and my local town. No second hand versions either. Places are pushing the download cards and people are gobbling them up (apparently most downloaded game to date already)

There's always a lot of fear for me with games like this and my initial reaction to this project was that there was a lot of ways they could screw this up, but as long as it doesn't screw things up from this point onwards? yeah - they nailed this +++. The already easy Story mode seems to have been made even easier (e.g. DosJaggi HR1 fight - 18 mins vs 2* story battle - 5 mins) and that's a good thing.

The biggest problem that the game as is the amount of text and the super annoying interuptions up until a certain point in the game. But hey - even that's shutting up. Plus no forced weapon tutorial! Huzzah based capgods!

Can't stop thinking about it... want to get my hunt on.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Tasty on September 17, 2013, 01:03:02 AM
Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck I need this in my veins :(
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Purple Filth on September 17, 2013, 01:05:21 AM
Quote from: Andrex on September 16, 2013, 09:31:47 PM
Quote from: Purple Filth on September 16, 2013, 09:26:03 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on September 16, 2013, 09:23:43 PM
Monster Hunter 4 sold over 2 million in its first four days.  Pretty much cemented now as Japan's new DQ.  Capcom's gotta be loving that.

Just wanna know when is this gonna hit stateside before picking up a 3ds

Gonna be a year wait at least I'd bet, you might as well should just get MH3U (2013 GOTY.)

Sounds way too long

Quote from: DCharlieJP on September 17, 2013, 12:51:35 AM
i'm sure the next project is basically MH4G

MH4, even early on, destroys MH3G and i'm glad skipping it (despite buying it multiple times) made everything feel fresher, but truth is that it does feel a darn sight different.

I'm not rushing things - basically this is a 1000+ hour experience so there's no point getting too het up about progress. So far, 8 hours on the clock and the HR1 dosjaggi fight with base armour and weaponry was ZOMG ZOMG ZOMG ZOMG levels of brilliant. It's hard to put into words why it's so much better, but there was more cat and mouse chasing, the variable height adds a ton of different tactics, the Jaggi bolting through a column and smashing it was :O, my two cats jumping on it and holding on for deal life as it swung to throw them off.... droooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool.

Game is solid sold out in shinjuku, aki, shibuya and my local town. No second hand versions either. Places are pushing the download cards and people are gobbling them up (apparently most downloaded game to date already)

There's always a lot of fear for me with games like this and my initial reaction to this project was that there was a lot of ways they could screw this up, but as long as it doesn't screw things up from this point onwards? yeah - they nailed this +++. The already easy Story mode seems to have been made even easier (e.g. DosJaggi HR1 fight - 18 mins vs 2* story battle - 5 mins) and that's a good thing.

The biggest problem that the game as is the amount of text and the super annoying interuptions up until a certain point in the game. But hey - even that's shutting up. Plus no forced weapon tutorial! Huzzah based capgods!

Can't stop thinking about it... want to get my hunt on.

GODDAMMIT DCharlie  :tocry
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: magus on September 17, 2013, 07:40:24 AM
Quote from: Borys on September 17, 2013, 07:18:26 AM
Fun fact:

MH4 sold more in 4 days than there are overall Vitas in Japan.

:beli
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: originalz on September 17, 2013, 10:07:09 AM
Hurr remember when all those people cited the stock drop when it was announced for 3DS and how Capcom is doomed?

Bloody idiots making statements who know nothing about the stock market.  I'm sure it'll happen again though!
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: DCharlieJP on September 17, 2013, 12:05:09 PM
Um - can we just ban all stock market talk? It's just horribly horrible from all angles
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Steve Contra on September 17, 2013, 06:32:50 PM
I want a thread dedicated to the prices of corporate bonds issued by the hardware manufacturers :phil

spoiler (click to show/hide)
And then we'd really see how fucked Sony is
[close]
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: AdmiralViscen on September 17, 2013, 06:54:55 PM
Quote from: Steve Contra on September 17, 2013, 06:32:50 PM
I want a thread dedicated to the prices of corporate bonds issued by the hardware manufacturers :phil

spoiler (click to show/hide)
And then we'd really see how fucked Sony is
[close]

I can't wait for Lager to tell us that Sony is offering the highest yields.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: hampster on September 18, 2013, 08:54:13 AM
Quote
02. [PSX] Final Fantasy VIII
07. [PSX] Final Fantasy IX

 :stahp
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: archnemesis on September 18, 2013, 08:57:39 AM
Quote from: hampster on September 18, 2013, 08:54:13 AM
Quote
02. [PSX] Final Fantasy VIII
07. [PSX] Final Fantasy IX

 :stahp
Sales of sequels are largely dependent on the quality of their direct predecessors. Those figures make perfect sense.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Great Rumbler on September 18, 2013, 09:07:18 AM
Quote from: archnemesis on September 18, 2013, 08:57:39 AM
Quote from: hampster on September 18, 2013, 08:54:13 AM
Quote
02. [PSX] Final Fantasy VIII
07. [PSX] Final Fantasy IX

 :stahp
Sales of sequels are largely dependent on the quality of their direct predecessors. Those figures make perfect sense.

Quote
02. [PSX] Final Fantasy VIII (Square) {1999.02.11} - 2.504.044 / 3.501.588
06. [PSX] Final Fantasy VII (Square) {1997.01.31} - 2.034.879 / 3.277.776

:teehee
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: archnemesis on September 18, 2013, 09:09:07 AM
Well, you got me there.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: thisismyusername on September 18, 2013, 09:10:07 AM
Quote from: hampster on September 18, 2013, 08:54:13 AM
Quote
02. [PSX] Final Fantasy VIII
07. [PSX] Final Fantasy IX

 :stahp

:phil
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Polari on September 18, 2013, 09:26:19 AM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on September 18, 2013, 09:11:40 AM
FF9 had other stuff going against it, too.  Basically had no hope of outselling 8 even had 8 been great.

Namely that the PS2 was already out.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: DCharlieJP on September 18, 2013, 09:39:20 AM
Final Fantasy - 4 ---> Long hours, grind, fantasy monsters
Dragon Quest - 3 ---> Long hours, grind, fantasy monsters
Monster Hunter - 2 ---> Long hours, grind, fantasy monsters
Pokémon - 1  ---> Long hours, grind, fantasy monsters



I sees a parterns!

Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on September 18, 2013, 09:44:34 AM
How does that compare to western countries top 1 dale sales?

I bet the list is more diverse.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Great Rumbler on September 18, 2013, 09:51:10 AM
It would be interesting to see games with the highest first-week sales versus games that sold the most overall.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Damian79 on September 18, 2013, 09:57:37 AM
Eh, i always preferred FF8 to FF7.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on September 18, 2013, 09:58:22 AM
Thats as well. Hardcore games like this tend to be more front loaded.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Positive Touch on September 18, 2013, 01:56:55 PM
Quote from: Damian79 on September 18, 2013, 09:57:37 AM
Eh, i always preferred FF8 to FF7.

I agree with damien. time to kill myself

Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: archie4208 on September 18, 2013, 03:45:42 PM
No hard numbers, but some interesting tidbits:

GTA 5 makes $800 million in 24 hours. (http://www.polygon.com/2013/9/18/4745284/gta-5-grand-theft-auto-first-day-sales-800m)

Steam's revenue up 76% year over year. (http://www.vg247.com/2013/09/17/steam-continues-to-show-growth-despite-steady-year-over-year-unit-declines-in-pc-sales-says-newell/)

Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Tasty on September 18, 2013, 04:07:47 PM
Quote from: DCharlieJP on September 18, 2013, 09:39:20 AM
Final Fantasy - 4 ---> Long hours, grind, fantasy monsters
Dragon Quest - 3 ---> Long hours, grind, fantasy monsters
Monster Hunter - 2 ---> Long hours, grind, fantasy monsters
Pokémon - 1  ---> Long hours, grind, fantasy monsters



I sees a parterns!

My kind of game. :aah Except FF.  :heh

Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on September 18, 2013, 10:05:48 AM

Quote from: Great Rumbler on September 18, 2013, 09:51:10 AM
It would be interesting to see games with the highest first-week sales versus games that sold the most overall.

Replace the whole list except Pokemon with Nintendo games, more or less.

:aah

Quote from: Borys on September 18, 2013, 09:48:12 AM
1. Xbox 360 - Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2
2. Xbox - Halo 2
3. Xbox 360 - Call of Duty: Black Ops
4. Xbox 360 - Call of Duty Black Ops 2
5. Xbox - Halo
6. Xbox 360 - Call of Duty: Modern Warfare
7. Xbox 360 - Halo 3
8. Xbox 360 - Gears of War 2
9. PS3 - Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2
10. Xbox 360 - Gears of War

More like

- GTA
- CoD MW, MW2, MW3, Blops, Blops 2
- Mario Kart DS, Wii
- Wii Sports, Fit
- NSMB DS, Wii
- Halo 1, 2, 3
- Guitar Hero?
- Pokemans
- Madden

As of 2010 it looked like:

1. Wii Play
2. Guitar Hero III: Legends of Rock
3. Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas
4. Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2
5. Wii Fit
6. Mario Kart Wii w/ Wheel
7. Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare
8. Madden NFL '07
9. Call of Duty: World at War
10. Namco Museum

The fuck is Namco Museum?
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Steve Contra on September 18, 2013, 04:08:54 PM
Borys was doing 1 day sales, Andrex.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Tasty on September 18, 2013, 04:10:26 PM
Quote from: Steve Contra on September 18, 2013, 04:08:54 PM
Borys was doing 1 day sales, Andrex.

Oooh, I see. Hmmmm.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Rusty Shackleford on September 22, 2013, 06:56:53 AM
Any guesses on what the over/under will be for Wind Waker?
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: archnemesis on September 22, 2013, 07:07:29 AM
I don't think it will sell well at all. The Wii U is still not an attractive console for the mainstream audience and releasing an enhanced port of a ten year old game isn't going to change that.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on September 22, 2013, 07:49:05 AM
I think it will do well.  The userbase is absolutely starved for content and if the new Zelda isn't coming out until late 2014 or 2015, then I can see people say, "I'll replay Celda HD to tide myself over."  By well, I mean well by Wii U standards, so 1-2 million copies over time, but for an almost full priced remake, that should be pretty good.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: AdmiralViscen on September 22, 2013, 08:36:28 AM
Didn't the original only do like 3 million on a larger userbase?
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: cool breeze on September 22, 2013, 01:45:30 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on September 22, 2013, 08:27:20 AM
First month or LTD?  I think it'll do about a million over time.  First month?  Maybe 200kish?  Digital launching early is going to bleed off a lot of first-month physical sales.

it'll be interesting to see that digital vs retail split.  releasing early digitally is a good idea, and game fans are nothing if not impatient.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Himu on September 22, 2013, 05:01:00 PM
Good god

http://www.wired.com/gamelife/2013/09/tokyo-game-show-gallery/
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Rusty Shackleford on September 22, 2013, 06:00:45 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on September 22, 2013, 08:54:48 AM

Quote from: AdmiralViscen on September 22, 2013, 08:36:28 AM
Didn't the original only do like 3 million on a larger userbase?

In the US?  2.5 million.  WW?  Like 5 million?  Wait, are we supposed to just be guessing for NA?

No I was thinking WW. I'm not sure what to think about its potential -- the Wii U has a small base but there may be some strong nostalgia/loyalty there.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Tasty on September 22, 2013, 06:06:06 PM
People will probably say it's a bomb because the two week lead on the eShop version is going to rip its NPD to shreds.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Rusty Shackleford on September 22, 2013, 06:09:05 PM
I never thought of that. Still, if it does OK maybe we'll hear a PR release from Nintendo with actual numbers for the DD.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: brob on September 22, 2013, 06:23:20 PM
Someone on Christian Nutt's twitter was talking about journos running around trying to find empty spaces to take pictures of  :teehee
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Himu on September 22, 2013, 06:38:02 PM
So the empty space thing is fake?
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: brob on September 22, 2013, 06:39:45 PM
Quote from: Formerly Known As Himuro on September 22, 2013, 06:38:02 PM
So the empty space thing is fake?

https://twitter.com/johntv/status/381278371528724480

"Dunno, I keep seeing people posting pics of the goods area (which is always giant and empty) and proclaiming the death of TGS!"
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Tasty on September 22, 2013, 08:38:28 PM
Wait, "Monster Hunter Smart"? F2P smartphone jank I take it?
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Himu on September 22, 2013, 08:44:27 PM
Monster Hunter without buttons just makes me want to die.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Himu on September 22, 2013, 09:08:15 PM
Yeah I was confused by that talking point. Monster Hunter 4 is already out. Why would Capcom try to market it at TGS? ???
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Himu on September 22, 2013, 09:15:31 PM
That makes no sense.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Tasty on September 22, 2013, 09:25:43 PM
Quote from: Formerly Known As Himuro on September 22, 2013, 08:44:27 PM
Monster Hunter without buttons just makes me want to die.

Unless it's tap to win QTEs I don't even know how it'd be possible. What was Dynamic Hunting like?
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on September 22, 2013, 09:37:47 PM
You mean to tell me that games journalists didn't do a good job?  I can't believe it!
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Tasty on September 22, 2013, 10:48:48 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on September 22, 2013, 09:34:21 PM

Quote from: Andrex on September 22, 2013, 09:25:43 PM
Quote from: Formerly Known As Himuro on September 22, 2013, 08:44:27 PM
Monster Hunter without buttons just makes me want to die.

Unless it's tap to win QTEs I don't even know how it'd be possible. What was Dynamic Hunting like?

Sounds like we could use more info on Monster Hunter Smart

Maybe Wired could have gotten some instead of hunting around for empty rooms

Room Hunter Frontier G
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Human Snorenado on September 22, 2013, 11:17:50 PM
Quote from: Formerly Known As Himuro on September 22, 2013, 09:15:31 PM
That makes no sense.

VIDEO GAME JOURNALIST BEHAVES ILLOGICALLY?

I don't believe this news.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Raban on September 22, 2013, 11:23:24 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on September 22, 2013, 09:34:21 PM
Sounds like we could use more info on Monster Hunter Smart

Maybe Wired could have gotten some instead of hunting around for empty rooms
It looks fucking amazing.
http://youtu.be/6zHrreNJmsM
:bow iOS
:piss andrex
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Himu on September 22, 2013, 11:42:30 PM
I want that game. Controls may not work but I want it.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Tasty on September 23, 2013, 12:32:29 AM
Quote from: Raban on September 22, 2013, 11:23:24 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on September 22, 2013, 09:34:21 PM
Sounds like we could use more info on Monster Hunter Smart

Maybe Wired could have gotten some instead of hunting around for empty rooms
It looks fucking amazing.
http://youtu.be/6zHrreNJmsM
:bow iOS
:piss andrex

:what

That does look fun, because it's basically 3U in portrait mode. How the hell do the controls work? :mindblown
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on September 23, 2013, 02:49:46 AM
Oscarsan how much did D3 do on consoles you think?
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on September 23, 2013, 04:05:47 AM
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2013-09-23-gta5-sells-more-in-first-week-than-launch-weeks-of-all-other-gtas-combined

Quote
After five days on sale in launch week it is already the 24th biggest-selling game ever in the UK. Breaking that down, it's the 11th biggest on Xbox 360 and 10th biggest on PlayStation 3. Xbox 360 accounted for 57 per cent of sales, PS3 43 per cent.

More astonishing figures: GTA5's launch week was 2.4 times greater than GTA4's. It shifted almost 250,000 more units than previous record-holder, 2010's Call of Duty: Black Ops.

 :bow2

2.2 million in a week

Hard to find even in my shitty country...$90 standard price
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: chronovore on September 28, 2013, 05:11:28 AM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on September 22, 2013, 11:41:31 PM
see the thing is

i hesitate to even slap the game journalist tag onto feit

he's a game journalist like i'm a professional weightlifter

it's not his job, he does it somewhat infrequently, and he's got little interest in it beyond using it as an excuse to socialize.

Yeah, I've only met the guy in passing, but he certainly seems to show up at dev gatherings. I'm never comfortable drinking with journos unless I know they're not going to publish without permission.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on September 28, 2013, 05:15:11 AM
Ill make you feel very comfortable if er go drinking chrono


Very
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: DCharlieJP on September 28, 2013, 06:01:48 AM
Quote
"Dunno, I keep seeing people posting pics of the goods area (which is always giant and empty) and proclaiming the death of TGS!"

yeah, busted total - that area is ALWAYS like that. I mean - people were talking about 2-3 hour queues for certain games as well - seems pretty busy to me.

for me though - there's a gang of people who -know- who they are who just have a huge downer on gaming at the moment -except- *surprise* for Nintendo

as i say, people cheering and whooping a back log of FOUR games on WiiU whilst mockingly saying "yeah, it has no games!" is borderline tragic.


Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: DCharlieJP on September 28, 2013, 11:17:35 PM
Feit doesn't particularly strike me as anything other than a nice guy to be quite honest - i've met him maybe 5 times? He seems enthusiastic about some stuff but in general he's just ... nice? not much of what he posts catches my eye to be honest.

Nthings - i basically have this whole theory about it - it's a North American thing. See - Eurofilth like me ? all our retro heros are dead. For John and Sprks, Kohler, Nutt ? they were born and raised on Nintendo - it was their in route to gaming... and it's a route that is still alive so i , personally, feel it puts a different slant on , well, everything for them. I have to say that John's "Dark Souls is pretty much a next gen Zelda" was the point where this all solidified - this wasn't the first time he'd used a similar anecdote and nor was it just him making references to old Nintendo games for anything not Nintendo of any note - but it solidified that their whole basis of gaming was based on Nintendo and, in truth, there's a whole slew of games that DS has more in common with and the idea that it somehow "owes" Nintendo when modern Nintendo have -buckleys and no- chance of producing a game like DS seemed somewhat disengenous

But it did make me realise - American long term gamers do tend to still have that Nintendo thing at thier core - but for Euros ? Consoles started at 16-bit in any real sense - and Sega came out largely on top. Prior to that it was largely a computer and arcade upbringing : But eurothings retro heroes? they are all dead ! Sinclair, Amstrad, Commodore, Sega*, Atari, the arcade scene.... it's all largely gone - Nintendo came too late and ripped us off (64.99 Quid base price for an N64 game?!) and though they'll still have some sway especially in the handheld arena (an area they deserve it!) only pockets of Europe are truly "Nintendo land"

So - what tends to happen is Americans tend to either apologise or see the best side in Nintendo, or see credit that somehow Nintendo deserve where frankly they have NOTHING to do with what ahs been achieved. Euros? we just love moaning, we have no retro heroes - we'll flag wave the next thing that keeps us happy.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: DCharlieJP on September 28, 2013, 11:36:36 PM
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feit is a nice guy, but there's no questioning he was working an angle with his story on TGS, and it's an angle consistent with the fact that he's the reason i have the hashtag #ohjapan muted on twitter. 


i didn't see the posts - but yeah - there's definitely a "gaming #sadface" thing that Nthings are spearheading - whilst i don't particularly think Feit is an Nthing (or don't have enough knowledge to say for sure), there's definitely a whole slew of people who - because the WiiU is thrashing about like a tuna in the desert - that that's it for everyone.

Whilst that might well turn out to be the case in terms of sales - i just find it insane that anyone classing themselves as a "games journalist" would write off an -entire- gen because of an idea that "the games aren't for me" before the gen has even started. Especially when it's coupled with "sigh - you know, probably the WiiU has everything i need" - which... OH, that'S handy that your favourite slobblecoq company duffbox just happens to be in that perfect "this is good enough bracket" with it's "wow - backlog of 4 games".... and this is the point where i get all nasty and vindictive where really i should just say "each to their own" - but i seriously wish people would just wear there preferences instead of making pish poor lists proof cases. No one will die if you say "i <3 Nintendo so..."
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Himu on September 29, 2013, 05:05:11 AM
Can someone tell me why GTAV has sold so more on launch week than all past GTA titles combined? I don't understand. I agree it looked like a great title but more than every gta launch combined?
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on September 29, 2013, 05:15:55 AM
Dc nailed it!
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Beezy on September 29, 2013, 05:44:16 AM
Quote from: Formerly Known As Himuro on September 29, 2013, 05:05:11 AM
Can someone tell me why GTAV has sold so more on launch week than all past GTA titles combined? I don't understand. I agree it looked like a great title but more than every gta launch combined?
Hmm... maybe cause it was released at the very end of this gen? Everyone who would ever want a 360 or PS3 has one by now. Plus it's been 5 years since the last GTA game.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: archnemesis on September 29, 2013, 05:45:56 AM
Quote from: Formerly Known As Himuro on September 29, 2013, 05:05:11 AM
Can someone tell me why GTAV has sold so more on launch week than all past GTA titles combined? I don't understand. I agree it looked like a great title but more than every gta launch combined?
I have no idea but maybe it's because the very large install base (~160 million) and lack of competition from other games.

Edit: Well, actually the real install base is considerably lower if you factor in broken and disconnected units.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Fifstar on September 29, 2013, 06:32:52 AM
Biggest marketing campaign maybe? Don't know if it's the biggest GTA campaign, but I've never seen such an amount of ads for a game here before. Media coverage also seems to be at an all time high, and it's not just about the violence stuff like it's usually here.

Also interesting that all the backslash that GTA IV got seems to have been mainly an online phenomenon, probably partly due to some of the ridiculous reviews. But if the general perception would have been as bad as it was on forums, it shouldn't sell as well as it does.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on September 29, 2013, 08:23:18 AM
Nobody I knew IRL thought GTA4 was any good.  While I haven't played it (and never will), GTA5 looked like a return to form to the PS2 GTA games.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Rufus on September 29, 2013, 08:46:00 AM
All of the above, but they also seemed to have retained much of their old fan base while also finding a slew of kids to jump on who may never have played the older games.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Eel O'Brian on September 29, 2013, 12:49:57 PM
I bought into the trailers and the whole "It's Heat/Breaking Bad: The Game!" way they were cut. :-\
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Takao on September 29, 2013, 02:40:12 PM
I made the mistake of replaying GTA IV over the summer. I think it'll be a few years until I play GTA V.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Polari on October 02, 2013, 10:47:32 AM
Stolen from GAF:
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The Legend of Zelda series: (List ordered by first week sales)

[N64] The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time (Nintendo) {1998.11.21} - 386.234 / 1.147.068
[NDS] The Legend of Zelda: Spirit Tracks (Nintendo) {2009.12.23} - 320.940 / 740.109
[N64] The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask (Nintendo) {2000.04.27} - 314.044 / 601.539
[NDS] The Legend of Zelda: Phantom Hourglass (Nintendo) {2007.06.23} - 288.282 / 902.386
[GCN] The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker (Nintendo) {2002.12.13} - 287.346 / 742.609
[WII] The Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword (Nintendo) {2011.11.23} - 194.894 / 337.452
[NGB] The Legend of Zelda: Oracle of Ages (Nintendo) {2001.02.27} - 191.802 / 373.361
[NGB] The Legend of Zelda: Oracle of Seasons (Nintendo) {2001.02.27} - 190.029 / 372.693
[3DS] The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time 3D (Nintendo) {2011.06.16} - 182.998 / 586.505
[WII] The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess (Nintendo) {2006.12.02} - 145.068 / 554.109
[GBA] The Legend of Zelda: Minish Cap (Nintendo) {2004.11.04} - 92.882 / 235.400
[GBA] The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past + Four Swords (Nintendo) {2003.03.14} - 84.107 / 293.989
[GCN] The Legend of Zelda: Four Swords (Nintendo) {2004.03.18} - 54.782 / 127.399
[NGB] The Legend of Zelda: Link's Awakening DX (Nintendo) {1998.12.12} - 49.513 / 314.224
[GBA] Famicom Mini: The Legend of Zelda (Nintendo) {2004.02.14} - 36.861 / 217.901
[GBA] Famicom Mini: Zelda II - The Adventure of Link (Nintendo) {2004.08.10} - 35.335 / 141.826
[WIU] The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker HD (Nintendo) {2013.09.26} - 31.154 / NEW
:shaq2
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on October 02, 2013, 10:50:58 AM
Well waddya expect
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Himu on October 02, 2013, 11:01:38 AM
Is that from media create
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Tasty on October 02, 2013, 11:53:20 AM
OoT 3D first week outselling TP's first week. :snoop
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Great Rumbler on October 02, 2013, 12:58:17 PM
Quote from: Andrex on October 02, 2013, 11:53:20 AM
OoT 3D first week outselling TP's first week. :snoop

:yeshrug
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cascade on October 02, 2013, 01:01:21 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on October 02, 2013, 11:53:06 AM
Feeling pretty good about my WW 200k first month/1 million LTD prediction now.
Is a million WW seriously possible based on the Japanese sales (I know they exclude the eShop but Nintendo aren't known for their high DD ratios).
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Takao on October 02, 2013, 03:45:15 PM
:lol at those NES ports on GBA selling better
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: bork on October 02, 2013, 04:18:34 PM
 :dead

Um...digital sales maybe?

Anyone?  No? 

Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Joe Molotov on October 02, 2013, 04:22:35 PM
Guess HD was overrated after all.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: cool breeze on October 02, 2013, 04:32:52 PM
Luigi's Mansion 2 outsold all but one Zelda game in Japan? Is it that Zelda isn't popular in Japan (everywhere?) or was Luigi's Mansion 2 hugely successful?

 
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Tasty on October 02, 2013, 04:46:44 PM
Quote from: fryinghigh on October 02, 2013, 04:32:52 PM
Luigi's Mansion 2 outsold all but one Zelda game in Japan? Is it that Zelda isn't popular in Japan (everywhere?) or was Luigi's Mansion 2 hugely successful?

Both. I don't think Zelda's ever been mega huge in Japan. OoT made it a juggernaut in the States.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Himu on October 02, 2013, 04:50:01 PM
Going by those numbers it was popular enough at one point in Japan. The drop off in lifetime sales from TP to SS is an eye opener.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Himu on October 02, 2013, 07:13:35 PM
Yeah, Zelda was huge as a kid even before OoT.  LA was practically the required GB game next to Tetris and Wario Land in pre Pokemon days back then, then there's LttP and Zelda 1.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Himu on October 02, 2013, 07:30:53 PM
Where is the data on TP for GC?
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: tiesto on October 02, 2013, 08:05:51 PM
How was Phantom Hourglass so successful? That was one of the worst games in the series (Spirit Tracks is the only one worse)...
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Rufus on October 02, 2013, 08:37:12 PM
I hated the touch controls so much I stopped playing even before revisiting the main dungeon could annoy me.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: AdmiralViscen on October 02, 2013, 08:38:24 PM
I mostly enjoyed PH, I'd never play it again though. Spirit Tracks, now that was complete shit.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: DCharlieJP on October 02, 2013, 09:10:09 PM
so - question

There's the often rumoured but almost certainly bullsh1t rumour that Nintendo forces stores to keep second hand prices of first party games artificially inflated.

Now this isn't something i've ever bought into - but when i went to buy Windwaker HD, i happened to notice that there was a second hand copy available but marked as unopened and new. So i bought it because, well, it was significantly cheaper than buying a new copy.

Thing is - when i handed it to the guy , he simply grabbed a new copy from the pile and rang that through, as i left the 2nd hand box went straight back on the shelf.

so it got me wondering... if the rumour of pressure is there, is this the loop hole?  I mean, it was a bit weird, and the second hand NEW box was still on the shelf in the same place yesterday. Will see if it's there again tomorrow. (It was 4280 yen btw vs... 5080? and of course... i've not played it yet)
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: DCharlieJP on October 02, 2013, 09:43:21 PM
well, as i said upfront - i don't believe it - but why on earth do what they did unless it was an honest genuine mistake (or the pile of shrink wrapped games were actually all returns) - also, bear in mind Nintendo have previous for (albeit a different kind of) price fixing, but anyhow, it's not important.

the very real thing out of all this is 30k sales and , really, i think that's Japan just yawning at everything that's not Monster Hunter. Sales figures are looking pretty horrific across the board for everything and whilst i personally didn't expect anything less than what Zelda did (HD remake of one of the least popular console Zeldas on a platform with all the appeal of roadkill) I'm sure people everywhere have the  :o face whilst this was entirely predictable.

Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Tasty on October 03, 2013, 12:31:06 AM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on October 02, 2013, 08:22:39 PM

Quote from: tiesto on October 02, 2013, 08:05:51 PM
How was Phantom Hourglass so successful? That was one of the worst games in the series (Spirit Tracks is the only one worse)...

It was better than Windwaker, real talk.

:what

Guess I should finish WW HD before commenting... But still, my memory can't be THAT bad...
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: DCharlieJP on October 03, 2013, 12:36:46 AM
MH4 back in stock everywhere ! Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: archnemesis on October 03, 2013, 04:29:52 AM
I don't know why anyone would have high expectations for an enhanced port to begin with. Especially when it's being released for the Wii U.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: archnemesis on October 03, 2013, 04:40:35 AM
What's next for the Wii U in Japan? Do you think Mario 3D U, Wii Fit U, Wii Party U or Taiko no Tatsujin U will move a significant amount of hardware?
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: mjemirzian on October 03, 2013, 01:54:13 PM
A lot of my favorite JP tactics game series or developers are gone, but thankfully western indie devs are picking up the slack.

I'm not sure it's a good comparison to compare sales of a HD remake on a struggling system to random uguu crap.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Takao on October 03, 2013, 02:54:20 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on October 03, 2013, 04:21:33 AM
okay, i've sorted it, feit is some bizarre hybrid nintard/he-man japan hater.  today he was admonishing japan because something he respected (windwaker hd) was outsold by something he found disgusting (oreimo, though if we listed everything that beat wwhd we'd be here forever).  being skeeved by oreimo is fine, but neither one sold much at all, so i don't really see how japan failed here.

Was this some article on a site, or just some guy whinning on Twitter? If it was an article, please tell me it was titled "My Little Link Can't Possibly Sell This Poorly".
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: tiesto on October 03, 2013, 06:42:12 PM
Quote from: mjemirzian on October 03, 2013, 01:54:13 PM
A lot of my favorite JP tactics game series or developers are gone, but thankfully western indie devs are picking up the slack.

I'm not sure it's a good comparison to compare sales of a HD remake on a struggling system to random uguu crap.

I just bought Farland Story for Saturn, you ever play that one?
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: DCharlieJP on October 04, 2013, 11:42:28 AM
MH4 sold out again.... lol.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Tasty on October 04, 2013, 12:14:08 PM
Quote from: DCharlieJP on October 04, 2013, 11:42:28 AM
MH4 sold out again.... lol.

They all saw your post and ran out to get copies.

The digital sales must be through the roof. Wonder when Nintendo/Capcom will comment on the breakdown.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: mjemirzian on October 05, 2013, 07:37:27 AM
Quote from: tiesto on October 03, 2013, 06:42:12 PM
I just bought Farland Story for Saturn, you ever play that one?
I've heard of it, never played it. Looks like a pretty average fantasy SRPG.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Pringo on October 09, 2013, 09:35:30 PM
Famitsu Sales: Week 40, 2013 (Sep 30 - Oct 06)

01./01. [3DS] Monster Hunter 4 # <ACT> (Capcom) {2013.09.14} (¥5.990) - 164.593 / 2.706.707 <80-100%> (-30%)
02./03. [PS3] Warriors Orochi 3: Ultimate # <ACT> (Koei Tecmo) {2013.09.26} (¥6.615) - 25.624 / 108.610 <80-100%> (-69%)
03./05. [PS3] Armored Core: Verdict Day <ACT> (From Software) {2013.09.26} (¥6.800) - 16.026 / 85.637 <60-80%> (-77%)
04./04. [PS3] The Legend Of Heroes: Sen no Kiseki # <RPG> (Nihon Falcom) {2013.09.26} (¥8.190) - 10.172 / 82.040 <80-100%> (-86%)
05./02. [PSV] The Legend Of Heroes: Sen no Kiseki # <RPG> (Nihon Falcom) {2013.09.26} (¥7.140) - 9.864 / 103.538 <80-100%> (-89%)
06./08. [PSV] Warriors Orochi 3: Ultimate <ACT> (Koei Tecmo) {2013.09.26} (¥6.090) - 7.862 / 32.687 <60-80%> (-68%)
07./12. [3DS] Animal Crossing: New Leaf # <ETC> (Nintendo) {2012.11.08} (¥4.800) - 7.837 / 3.831.323 <80-100%> (-7%)
08./06. [WIU] The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker HD <ADV> (Nintendo) {2013.09.26} (¥5.985) - 7.052 / 38.206 <40-60%> (-77%)
09./11. [3DS] Disney Magic Castle: My Happy Life # <ETC> (Bandai Namco Games) {2013.08.01} (¥5.480) - 6.557 / 280.296 <80-100%> (-25%)
10./14. [3DS] Friend Collection: New Life # <ETC> (Nintendo) {2013.04.18} (¥4.800) - 5.889 / 1.439.725 <80-100%> (-19%)
11./15. [3DS] Youkai Watch <RPG> (Level 5) {2013.07.11} (¥4.800) - 5.691 / 199.204 <80-100%> (-19%)
12./13. [PS3] Final Fantasy XIV Online: A Real Reborn # <RPG> (Square Enix) {2013.08.27} (¥3.300) - 5.458 / 223.102 <80-100%> (-28%)
13./16. [3DS] Mario & Luigi: Dream Team # <RPG> (Nintendo) {2013.07.18} (¥4.800) - 4.934 / 327.223 <80-100%> (-23%)
14./07. [PS3] My Little Sister Can't Be This Cute. Happy End # <ADV> (Bandai Namco Games) {2013.09.26} (¥7.480) - 3.574 / 29.852 <60-80%> (-86%)
15./23. [3DS] Luigi's Mansion: Dark Moon <ACT> (Nintendo) {2013.03.20} (¥4.800) - 3.433 / 917.271 <80-100%> (-6%)
16./00. [3DS] SPEC: Ten <ACT> (Bandai Namco Games) {2013.10.03} (¥5.480) - 3.214 / NEW <20-40%>
17./18. [PS3] JoJo's Bizarre Adventure: All-Star Battle # <FTG> (Bandai Namco Games) {2013.08.29} (¥7.980) - 3.027 / 450.412 <80-100%> (-45%)
18./21. [3DS] Disney Epic Mickey: The Power of Illusion <ACT> (Spike Chunsoft) {2013.09.26} (¥5.040) - 2.905 / 7.727 <20-40%> (-40%)
19./25. [3DS] New Super Mario Bros. 2 # <ACT> (Nintendo) {2012.07.28} (¥4.800) - 2.831 / 2.116.939 <80-100%> (-19%)
20./17. [PS3] Romance of the Three Kingdoms 12 with Power-Up Kit <SLG> (Koei Tecmo) {2013.09.26} (¥10.290) - 2.660 / 8.355 <40-60%> (-53%)
21./28. [3DS] Mario Kart 7 <RCE> (Nintendo) {2011.12.01} (¥4.800) - 2.636 / 2.090.047 <80-100%> (-9%)
22./29. [3DS] Donkey Kong Country Returns 3D <ACT> (Nintendo) {2013.06.13} (¥4.800) - 2.311 / 243.886 <80-100%> (-13%)
23./00. [3DS] Tousouchuu: Shijou Saikyou no Hunter-Tachi Kara Nigekire! <ACT> (Bandai Namco Games) {2012.07.05} (¥5.040) - 2.179 / 521.627 <80-100%>
24./27. [WII] Taiko no Tatsujin Wii: Super Deluxe Edition # <ACT> (Bandai Namco Games) {2012.11.29} (¥5.040) - 2.143 / 573.112 <80-100%> (-32%)
25./09. [PS3] Arcadias no Ikusahime <RPG> (Nippon Ichi Software) {2013.09.26} (¥7.140) - 2.129 / 11.983 <60-80%> (-78%)
26./00. [WII] New Play Control! Pikmin 2 <ACT> (Nintendo) {2009.03.12} (¥3.800) - 2.041 / 180.817 <80-100%>
27./00. [3DS] Taiko no Tatsujin: Chibi Dragon to Fushigi na Orb <ACT> (Bandai Namco Games) {2012.07.12} (¥5.040) - 1.982 / 512.554 <80-100%>
28./26. [3DS] Nobunaga's Ambition <SLG> (Koei Tecmo) {2013.09.19} (¥5.040) - 1.955 / 13.252 <60-80%> (-40%)
29./10. [PSP] Meiji Toukyou Renka # <ADV> (Broccoli) {2013.09.26} (¥6.090) - 1.844 / 11.320 <80-100%> (-81%)
30./00. [PS3] Call of Duty: Black Ops II - Dubbed Edition (Bargain Edition) <ACT> (Square Enix) {2013.09.05} (¥3.990) - 1.759 / 14.349 <60-80%>

Top 30

3DS - 15
PS3 - 9
PSV - 2
WII - 2
PSP - 1
WIU - 1

HARDWARE

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|System | This Week  | Last Week  | Last Year  |     YTD    |  Last YTD  |     LTD     |
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| 3DS # |    117.739 |    139.808 |     58.233 |  3.254.620 |  3.440.114 |  13.017.122 |
|  PS3  |     11.152 |     11.747 |     43.870 |    628.825 |    940.295 |   9.373.158 |
|  WIU  |      3.853 |      5.560 |            |    436.816 |            |   1.075.155 |
|  PSV  |      3.670 |      6.436 |      8.118 |    700.221 |    552.471 |   1.777.380 |
| PSP # |      3.557 |      4.042 |     16.596 |    374.824 |    691.708 |  19.553.924 |
|  WII  |      1.096 |        967 |      4.282 |     62.517 |    419.348 |  12.723.259 |
|  360  |        362 |        346 |      4.568 |     14.890 |     46.881 |   1.602.901 |
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|  ALL  |    141.429 |    168.944 |    136.216 |  5.479.296 |  6.136.747 |  81.109.837 |
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|  PSP  |      3.557 |      4.042 |     16.596 |    374.824 |    691.708 |  19.393.349 |
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Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: mjemirzian on October 09, 2013, 09:50:31 PM
Didn't realize Armored Core was still that popular.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Great Rumbler on October 09, 2013, 10:16:01 PM
Outside of the 3DS, those hardware numbers are utterly abysmal.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: DCharlieJP on October 10, 2013, 12:31:44 AM
Quote
360  |        362 |        346

well... i laughed.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Purple Filth on October 10, 2013, 04:27:58 AM
Quote from: DCharlieJP on October 10, 2013, 12:31:44 AM
Quote
360  |        362 |        346

well... i laughed.

which one is the right number?  :P
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cascade on October 12, 2013, 07:01:20 AM
Quote from: Great Rumbler on October 09, 2013, 10:16:01 PM
Outside of the 3DS, those hardware numbers are utterly abysmal.
*Sigh*, people can be so shortsighted. There were many angles Sony took to make the vita salvageable so this is not the only picture. If the 2000 version won't spike sale (which we have no Idea other than one picture and heresy) then Sony will rely on the Vita TV to boost the Vita-line's userbase. If that fails they can rely on the synergy of the ps4 and remote play. If that fails I believe they'll start to bundle the Vita with the ps4 to increase the userbase.

Sony mentioned that when people own a vita, they love it and that's what they're banking on. Getting vitas in more hands because they have fate in the line. No, the vita 2000 was not going to set ablaze the charts with MH and PM launching within weeks of eachother but maybe it'll gain exposure from the traffic. So when you look at Sony's strategy on a greater scale, they're not trying to win a single battle. They're trying to win a war of sorts. Trying to stay relevance in a world of phones and tablets.

And speaking of which, I hope Nintendo has some thing lined up in 2014 cause those two games won't hold for 2 years. The next PM and MH will take time to make and Sony will be left with that window of time rebuild and solidify new Ips like Tokeden, SS, Freedom wars, GR, or whatever during that timeframe. Remember, it took 4 year to create the monster that is MH.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Tasty on October 12, 2013, 03:22:49 PM
Almost got me, but then I remembered typing "*sigh*" is one of the telltale signs of  :expert
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on November 11, 2013, 03:53:12 AM
EG
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Annual Activision bullet-fest Call of Duty: Ghosts has zipped straight to the top of the UK all-formats chart.

62 per cent of sales were recorded on Xbox 360, 34 per cent on PlayStation 3 and 3 per cent on PS4, even though the copies won't be playable for another three weeks.

Wii U and physical PC sales counted for less than a single per cent of the game's total.

Sales-wise, the PlayStation 4 version of Ghosts was this week's seventh best-selling game, if all SKUs were counted separately - more than the PS3 versions of Battlefield 4 and Assassin's Creed 4.

Battlefield 4 was second this week, while Assassin's Creed 4 fell to third.

FIFA 14 was fourth, GTA5 was fifth and Batman: Arkham Origins was sixth, ahead of WWE 2K14, Minecraft: Xbox 360 Edition, Football Manager 2014 and Skylanders Swap Force.

Outside of the top 10, Nintendo's latest Professor Layton title, the excellent Azaran Legacy for 3DS, turned up in 13th.

Weeeeeeeeoooo
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Takao on November 11, 2013, 04:23:02 AM
That's the one platform Wii U has a larger userbase than too

 ssssshhhhiiiitttt
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on November 11, 2013, 07:07:49 AM
http://www.mcvuk.com/news/read/call-of-duty-sales-tumble-50-but-how-bad-is-it/0124060
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Call of Duty: Ghosts UK launch sales are around 50 per cent lower than Call of Duty: Black Ops II, retail sources have told MCV.

COD :violin

Next gen to the rescue(about 800k needed to match BO2 launch sales).
 :rejoice
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: archie4208 on November 11, 2013, 08:02:08 AM
I can't wait to see the next gen bloodbath.  :drool
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: hampster on November 12, 2013, 12:23:35 AM
The Oscar sales thread without Oscar :-\

The mental gymnastics in the gaf thread about the cod sales was truly impressive. Its time for them to abandon the general board and huddle together in a protective thread. You never see the vita owners bugging anyone these days. They just hide out in their own thread having fun
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on November 12, 2013, 06:31:01 AM
Vita "fans" are in PS4 remote play begging threads.I guess hope dies last...
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on November 14, 2013, 11:25:01 AM
http://www.mcvuk.com/news/read/gta-v-uk-sales-bigger-than-battlefield-call-of-duty-batman-pokemon-and-assassin-s-creed-combined/0124337
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Grand Theft Auto V Week One sales = FIFA 14 week one + Call of Duty: Ghosts week one + Battlefield 4 week one + Pokemon X and Y week one + Assassin's Creed IV week One + Batman week one.

NPD is in few hours,btw
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Momo on November 14, 2013, 11:29:40 AM
I'm hoping CoD:Ghosts has a noticeable dip this year 
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Tasty on November 14, 2013, 12:12:30 PM
Quote from: Momo on November 14, 2013, 11:29:40 AM
I'm hoping CoD:Ghosts has a noticeable dip this year

Everything will dip this year cause this industry is going down in flames.

Purge by fire. :rejoice
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: archie4208 on November 14, 2013, 01:17:20 PM
Quote from: Tasty Meat on November 14, 2013, 12:12:30 PM
Quote from: Momo on November 14, 2013, 11:29:40 AM
I'm hoping CoD:Ghosts has a noticeable dip this year

Everything will dip this year cause this industry is going down in flames.

Purge by fire. :rejoice

PC is still doing fine.  :smug

Steam growing 30% YoY :bow2

Games like League of Legends and World of Tanks having millions of concurrent users and generating tons of revenue :bow2

Indie games being profitable after a few hours :bow2
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: MCD on November 14, 2013, 06:40:08 PM
http://m.neogaf.com/showthread.php?t=715970
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on November 14, 2013, 06:41:39 PM
Stolen from Takao

Top software:

1. Grand Theft Auto V (360, PS3)
2. Pokémon X (3DS)
3. Pokémon Y (3DS)
4. Battlefield 4 (360, PS3, PC)
5. Batman: Arkham Origins (360, PS3, Wii U, PC)
6. Assassin’s Creed IV, Black Flag (360, PS3, Wii U)
7. NBA 2K14 (360, PS3, PC)
8. Skylanders: Swap Force (Wii, 360, PS3, Wii U, 3DS)
9. Lego Marvel Super Heroes (360, PS3, Wii U, 3DS, PC)
10. WWE 2K14 (360, PS3)

Best selling platform was 3DS. 360 sold more than PS3.

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The industry managed to rack up $791.1 million in total sales for new hardware and software at retail in October, according to data-tracking firm The NPD Group’s latest report. That’s up 5 percent from 2012, when the industry generated $755.7 million in revenue. That doesn’t match the monster $1.08-billion September total, but that wasn’t expected.

Again, software sales made up for slipping hardware numbers. New game sales were up 12 percent to $482.5 million. That’s compared to $432.6 million in 2012. Consoles only produced $171.7 million, which is down 8 percent from $187.4 million in the same period last year.
http://venturebeat.com/2013/11/14/october-2013-npd-pokemon-powers-3ds-to-sixth-straight-month-at-top/

Unit order is the sales order,btw.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Himu on November 14, 2013, 06:45:08 PM
Nice.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: MCD on November 14, 2013, 06:46:06 PM
Beyond 2 :neogaf
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on November 14, 2013, 06:48:21 PM
Nintendo PR

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Nintendo 3DS marked its sixth consecutive month as the country’s best-selling video game hardware system, with more than 452,000 units sold, thanks in part to the launch of Nintendo 2DS and sales of Pokémon X and Pokémon Y. Sales of Nintendo 3DS hardware in October doubled last month’s tally*, and marked the most units any portable video game system or home console has sold in a single month in 2013.

Pokémon X and Pokémon Y were the No. 1 and No. 2 top-selling titles last month, with more than 1.7 million units combined, making October the biggest month for Nintendo 3DS software all year. Total Nintendo 3DS first-party software sales hit more than 2 million units sold, the highest tally since the report for December 2011, which included sales of hit games Super Mario 3D Land and Mario Kart 7.

Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: MCD on November 14, 2013, 06:49:34 PM
Still surprise me that 3DS isn't getting a lot of games. This industry is fucked up.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: AdmiralViscen on November 14, 2013, 06:53:17 PM
Batman outperformed AC? Was that AC's second month?
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Phoenix Dark on November 14, 2013, 06:56:40 PM
How much did the WiiU sell.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Purple Filth on November 14, 2013, 06:56:52 PM
Quote from: maxy on November 14, 2013, 06:48:21 PM
Nintendo PR

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Nintendo 3DS marked its sixth consecutive month as the country’s best-selling video game hardware system, with more than 452,000 units sold, thanks in part to the launch of Nintendo 2DS and sales of Pokémon X and Pokémon Y. Sales of Nintendo 3DS hardware in October doubled last month’s tally*, and marked the most units any portable video game system or home console has sold in a single month in 2013.

Pokémon X and Pokémon Y were the No. 1 and No. 2 top-selling titles last month, with more than 1.7 million units combined, making October the biggest month for Nintendo 3DS software all year. Total Nintendo 3DS first-party software sales hit more than 2 million units sold, the highest tally since the report for December 2011, which included sales of hit games Super Mario 3D Land and Mario Kart 7.

i wonder how much the 2ds sold in that
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on November 14, 2013, 06:58:50 PM
Quote from: AdmiralViscen on November 14, 2013, 06:53:17 PM
Batman outperformed AC? Was that AC's second month?

First month.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Takao on November 14, 2013, 07:03:22 PM
shouldn't have used drake in those aciv tv ads
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Himu on November 14, 2013, 07:06:33 PM
i need beyond numbers
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: cool breeze on November 14, 2013, 07:17:23 PM
Quote from: AdmiralViscen on November 14, 2013, 06:53:17 PM
Batman outperformed AC? Was that AC's second month?

first, but unlike Batman, it's coming to PS4 and XB1.  it'll be interesting to see how these crossgen games end up selling on the new hardware.

or everyone hated AC3 and it scared them away from AC4
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Tasty on November 14, 2013, 07:19:16 PM
Quote from: maxy on November 14, 2013, 06:48:21 PM
Nintendo PR

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Nintendo 3DS marked its sixth consecutive month as the country’s best-selling video game hardware system, with more than 452,000 units sold, thanks in part to the launch of Nintendo 2DS and sales of Pokémon X and Pokémon Y. Sales of Nintendo 3DS hardware in October doubled last month’s tally*, and marked the most units any portable video game system or home console has sold in a single month in 2013.

Pokémon X and Pokémon Y were the No. 1 and No. 2 top-selling titles last month, with more than 1.7 million units combined, making October the biggest month for Nintendo 3DS software all year. Total Nintendo 3DS first-party software sales hit more than 2 million units sold, the highest tally since the report for December 2011, which included sales of hit games Super Mario 3D Land and Mario Kart 7.

Jeeze, half a mill and not even Nov/Dec yet.

X/Y :rejoice

X>Y :comeon
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: thisismyusername on November 14, 2013, 07:27:25 PM
Quote from: Tasty Meat on November 14, 2013, 07:19:16 PM
X>Y :comeon

Here, we see Andy-kun's faggotry on full display. Wanting the male version to outsell the female version.

spoiler (click to show/hide)
This is a poorly done insult/joke, I know.  :'(
[close]
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Tasty on November 14, 2013, 07:32:17 PM
Nah it wasn't bad, I'll dap it.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: thisismyusername on November 14, 2013, 07:35:35 PM
Let's be honest though: X's cover legendary looks cooler than Y's.  :-* I think that's all that matters to the little kids that ask for copies of Pokemon.

I'm honestly shocked at Ass Creed's charting. I knew 3 had a lot of backlash, but I figured 4 would weather that storm. Seems not. But I'm also in that camp of "I'm waiting until Black Friday/etc." for a cheap copy of it and I'm sure there's others like me that got burned by 3 doing the same thing.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Tasty on November 14, 2013, 07:54:16 PM
The stupid deer/antler thing is cooler than a dragon-ass motherfucker? :comeon
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: thisismyusername on November 14, 2013, 07:59:50 PM
Quote from: Tasty Meat on November 14, 2013, 07:54:16 PM
The stupid deer/antler thing is cooler than a dragon-ass motherfucker? :comeon

The both look bad, to be honest. :pacspit

But at the end of the day they tried to make Y a bird-dragon thing and it just looks awkward as hell compared to X's (granted, lazy) "X" deer design.

But I'd rather have Gen 4's cover legendaries back over either of them, and I thought 4's Legendaries were pretty bad themselves.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on November 14, 2013, 08:05:14 PM
X Legendary is insanely better than Y. X is a cool Miyazaki-esque Pokemon of light and forest and life. Y is, I dunno, some kinda big ... bird? Who has a wing for a tail? Maybe he's a claw from a claw game? X > Y for sure.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Tasty on November 14, 2013, 08:20:07 PM
Gen 4 designs. :rejoice
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Trent Dole on November 14, 2013, 08:44:42 PM
Quote from: MCD on November 14, 2013, 06:49:34 PM
Still surprise me that 3DS isn't getting a lot of games. This industry is fucked up.
It's not? Maybe just a lot of them are staying in its homeland. Last I looked the thing had plenty of software I'd have at in the states.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Purple Filth on November 14, 2013, 09:08:40 PM
so according to creamsugar on GAF apparently 2DS won

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2DS Win.

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Star wars 
3ds: 3.4k
psv: 0.4k

i see that 40 price point doing wonders for those birds  :lol :lol

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Super Hedgehog Galaxy < 30k (2 platforms)

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120k< The REAL Ellen Page < 125k

 
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Tasty on November 14, 2013, 09:17:29 PM
Sonic sales :kobeyuck

Wonder if Sega just says "fuck it" and goes 100% smartphone at this rate.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: AdmiralViscen on November 14, 2013, 09:18:14 PM
Sonic demo just hit. Seems okay but it is only one level. With those sales maybe i can get it for $20
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Pringo on November 14, 2013, 09:21:37 PM
PSV < 30k < Wii < 40k < 50k < Wii U < 60k < 100k < PS3 < 120k
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Purple Filth on November 14, 2013, 09:21:50 PM
Hardware (excluding 360 , 3ds and 2ds)

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PSV < 30k < Wii < 40k < 50k < Wii U < 60k < 100k < PS3 < 120k

Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Tasty on November 14, 2013, 09:36:21 PM
Wii U doing noticeably better than Wii finally :larry

Surprised Vita is doing that well, tbh.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Phoenix Dark on November 14, 2013, 09:39:39 PM
So the WiiU is officially done now. There's no way it outsells the PS4, PS3, or 360 in November. Nor will it outsell those consoles or the XB1 in December. And next year...nope.

GG
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Tasty on November 14, 2013, 09:42:56 PM
I dunno I think it could outsell the PS3 and 360 next year.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Tasty on November 14, 2013, 09:44:47 PM
Quote from: Tasty Meat on November 14, 2013, 09:42:56 PM
I dunno I think it could outsell the PS3 and 360 next year.

Oh god look what I'm saying :dead
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Takao on November 14, 2013, 09:50:35 PM
Vita wouldn't sell well if SCEA actually gave a shit, but the numbers would be higher than they are now. Screw you SCEA.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: thisismyusername on November 14, 2013, 10:09:59 PM
Quote from: Takao on November 14, 2013, 09:50:35 PM
Vita wouldn't sell well if SCEA actually gave a shit, but the numbers would be higher than they are now. Screw you SCEA.

More like screw Sega. I'm sitting here waiting for a western release of PSO2 so I can grind on the go but Sega don't care. :(

Nor will they put Phantasy Star Portable 1-2 back up on the PSN store to cover that hole at the least.

To be honest, there isn't too many attractive titles for me on the system now a days. Since DOA5U released there's... Injustice, which I have no interest in. Tearaway which I want to get but not day 1 and hope Media Molecule isn't relegated to handhelds only after LittleBigPlanet 1-2. And Killzone which... uh... yeah.

I haven't can't think of any "noteworthy" titles in the past year besides those? I guess... Disgaea 4 being ported but I honestly want Disgaea 1-2 over that at this point and I still haven't finished Disgaea 3.

Though, I guess late ports of Flower, Journey, Dead Nation, Walking Dead, et. al. counts as "support"/noteworthy titles, yeah?
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Smooth Groove on November 14, 2013, 10:24:57 PM
Vita or WiiU at $50 price difference would be an interesting choice

Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: hampster on November 14, 2013, 10:39:06 PM
Quote from: thisismyusername on November 14, 2013, 10:09:59 PM
Quote from: Takao on November 14, 2013, 09:50:35 PM
Vita wouldn't sell well if SCEA actually gave a shit, but the numbers would be higher than they are now. Screw you SCEA.

More like screw Sega. I'm sitting here waiting for a western release of PSO2 so I can grind on the go but Sega don't care. :(

It would be great if it was a surpise announcement tonight :o I hope God Eater 2 comes over at least
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Tasty on November 14, 2013, 10:42:06 PM
You guys will get Monster Hunter Frontier G and you'll like it.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Steve Youngblood on November 14, 2013, 10:49:12 PM
Will Oscar ever come back?
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Himu on November 14, 2013, 10:51:43 PM
He will. He's just on break.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Tasty on November 14, 2013, 10:53:19 PM
Mysteries abound where most we seek for answers.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Phoenix Dark on November 14, 2013, 10:57:10 PM
He'll return when the WiiU sells 80k in a month. Which means he'll never come back.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Smooth Groove on November 14, 2013, 11:01:20 PM
PD, would you rather have a Vita or Wii U?
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Phoenix Dark on November 15, 2013, 12:00:54 AM
Vita, so I can pretend I have a smartphone.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on November 15, 2013, 02:18:39 AM
Quote from: Phoenix Dark on November 14, 2013, 09:39:39 PM
So the WiiU is officially done now. There's no way it outsells the PS4, PS3, or 360 in November. Nor will it outsell those consoles or the XB1 in December. And next year...nope.

GG

October on the Wii U?

Assassin's Creed IV
Sonic Lost World
Wii Party U
Batman: Arkham Origins
Deus Ex: Human Revolution Director's Cut (which I heard was barely stocked anywhere for any platform)
Wind Waker HD
Skylanders?

Harker
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Oh I dont know, 10k being a number most of those titles wish they could have sold being a factor perhaps.

That is WiiU problem and it has been like that since the first day.

Why?

I have no clue.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on November 15, 2013, 04:51:03 AM
Party U < Batman U

Batman < 650k
PS3 + 360 = 98.2%
WiiU = 1.8%

Batman WiiU < 11.7k
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on November 15, 2013, 05:09:08 AM
Ubisoft to jump off soon.

AC4 U = 1% total


That is less than 6.5k.

Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: hampster on November 15, 2013, 09:11:03 AM
I wonder if Watch Dogs U will be cancelled. Even if it came out its not like retailers will carry it - I believe Target wasn't even stocking Wii U versions of AC4 and Batman
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Phoenix Dark on November 15, 2013, 01:53:19 PM
They probably should at this point.

I can't see Ubisoft showing similar support in 2014.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Takao on November 15, 2013, 04:45:52 PM
you guys ubisoft and warner just sabotaged their releases by not getting enough retailers to stock them it's not that retailers order to perceived demand it was that ubisoft and warner want to stop supporting wii u
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on November 15, 2013, 08:23:32 PM
I only check in to see what Oscar has to say 'bout stuff  and spitting truth and and and he hasn't posted in about a month.  What did you fuckers do now?!?
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on November 15, 2013, 08:50:01 PM
Quote from: Phoenix Dark on November 15, 2013, 01:53:19 PM
They probably should at this point.

I can't see Ubisoft showing similar support in 2014.

Barring some kind of legitimate second wind (not the Mario 3D World bump, an actual significant increase of sales that is sustained over the course of several months), I can't see the Wii U getting even token ports after this holiday season.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Phoenix Dark on November 15, 2013, 11:15:58 PM
Quote from: Mary Tyler Whore on November 15, 2013, 08:50:01 PM
Quote from: Phoenix Dark on November 15, 2013, 01:53:19 PM
They probably should at this point.

I can't see Ubisoft showing similar support in 2014.

Barring some kind of legitimate second wind (not the Mario 3D World bump, an actual significant increase of sales that is sustained over the course of several months), I can't see the Wii U getting even token ports after this holiday season.

Madden/CoD/etc? Hmm, seems possible at this point. It took forever for Ghosts to be confirmed for the WiiU, you could tell Activision was thinking about skipping it. Ghost selling <30,000 in a year should do the trick.

Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on November 16, 2013, 07:01:31 AM
Madden 25 didn't come out on the Wii U.  I don't imagine it costs a whole lot to port over to the Wii U but when a port comprises of 1-2 percent of the game's overall sales, it would be pretty easy to say it isn't worth it and move on from the platform entirely, especially in 2014 when there will be fewer cross gen efforts.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Phoenix Dark on November 16, 2013, 01:17:00 PM
I'd imagine there will be plenty of cross-gen efforts in 2014 though. Destiny and Titanfall are big titles that are coming to both gens largely to maximize profits; the PS4 and XB1 won't have install bases large enough to make either game a success so early in 2014. Likewise I think the Maddens and CoDs will continue to appear on the 360 and PS3 at least through 2014, maybe into 2015. I don't remember how long EA supported the PS2/Xbox but iirc they had ports on them for at least a couple years.

The difference will be that confused parents and gamers waiting for proper next-gen titles before jumping in will continue to buy 360/PS3 titles. No such market exists for the WiiU. Those people don't give a shit about Madden and there's nothing EA can do about it. I thought the Wii could lead to some interesting innovations, and while EA did use the controller it never caught on with audiences. Likewise the WiiU has obvious appliances to Madden (create your own routes and plays with the game pad), but they'll never be appreciated by an audience that only plays Nintendo games.

Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Stoney Mason on November 16, 2013, 01:20:21 PM
Now things get really brutal for the Wii U. They are competing against 4 other consoles now essentially. It's not going to be pretty. And there doesn't appear to be any gimmick coming that can save them.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on November 16, 2013, 04:39:18 PM
Quote from: Phoenix Dark on November 16, 2013, 01:17:00 PM
I'd imagine there will be plenty of cross-gen efforts in 2014 though. Destiny and Titanfall are big titles that are coming to both gens largely to maximize profits; the PS4 and XB1 won't have install bases large enough to make either game a success so early in 2014. Likewise I think the Maddens and CoDs will continue to appear on the 360 and PS3 at least through 2014, maybe into 2015. I don't remember how long EA supported the PS2/Xbox but iirc they had ports on them for at least a couple years.

The difference will be that confused parents and gamers waiting for proper next-gen titles before jumping in will continue to buy 360/PS3 titles. No such market exists for the WiiU. Those people don't give a shit about Madden and there's nothing EA can do about it. I thought the Wii could lead to some interesting innovations, and while EA did use the controller it never caught on with audiences. Likewise the WiiU has obvious appliances to Madden (create your own routes and plays with the game pad), but they'll never be appreciated by an audience that only plays Nintendo games.

Looks like Madden 2012 was the last one to hit the PS2.

You're right that cross gen will continue to exist but over time, more and more developers are going to move on, and the Wii U is going to be left behind.

I have no doubt that Nintendo knows how fucked they are, but I suspect that they think 3D World and Mario Kart 8 will pull them out.  If not, they really don't have any more options because in the past, their solution to a slump was pushing out more Mario games.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Phoenix Dark on November 16, 2013, 07:34:54 PM
Agreed. It's gonna be really funny when they roll out the next Wii Play/Wii Fit/Brain Games/etc and no one gives a fuck.

Mario Kart and 3D World needed to be released 6 months ago, it's too late now. 3D Worlds will do well I'm sure, but overall the WiiU is going to get out-sold by at least three consoles this holiday season.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on November 17, 2013, 05:34:03 AM
It seems like PS4 has shipped/sold one million on day one.If I'm not mistaken,console is mostly sold out so shipped=sold.

Pretty impressive launch sales,have to dig through previous console gens to see how it exactly compares.WiiU will be overrun in a short time.No software data yet,but I think it's safe to assume that COD will demolish everything else.

/damn Borys
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on November 17, 2013, 06:04:30 AM
Can't find my charts :(

I guess Wiki should do fine for now

http://vgsales.wikia.com/wiki/Biggest_game_system_launches
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on November 17, 2013, 06:49:38 AM
Quote from: Borys on November 17, 2013, 05:29:26 AM
Sony just confirmed 1M PS4s sold through in NA in 24 hours. Biggest opening number in NA for a  "PlayStation" device in history.

Iwata on seppuku watch.

Nintendo blew their year head start pretty irresponsibly.  I would be surprised if Iwata still has his job three months from now.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: mjemirzian on November 17, 2013, 07:45:14 AM
Console gaming is dead, long live console gaming. ???
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Phoenix Dark on November 17, 2013, 12:13:14 PM
But Oscar said the next gen would be a disaster trollolol

XB1 will probably do half of that in all of November.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Great Rumbler on November 17, 2013, 12:30:31 PM
Quote from: mjemirzian on November 17, 2013, 07:45:14 AM
Console gaming is dead, long live console gaming. ???

It's just nerves, nothing more.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Himu on November 17, 2013, 12:36:19 PM
Oscar never said that next Gen would be a disaster. Oscar always conceded he could be wrong. He's just throwing in how he thinks things could go. There were a lot of ideas as to why hardware wasn't selling as well and Oscars guesses are as good as any. Also, a big launch doesn't mean much. Though it certainly means something it doesn't mean everything.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Great Rumbler on November 17, 2013, 12:41:05 PM
And it's probably not a good idea to take too much away from the first month, or even the first few months. There's still a lot of people out there that are crazy for AAA console gaming and shiny new tech. If it's still rolling along like this a year from now, though? Yeah, that would be a good indication that console gaming is going to stick around for a while longer.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Phoenix Dark on November 17, 2013, 12:46:03 PM
WiiU sold 1.4m in NA this year. Ouch.

It's over for them. They had a great one year window to establish themselves in. Really makes me wonder if they would have been better off launching the console this holiday season instead of last year. $300 October launch with Mario 3D World, Pikmin, CoD (lol I know) as launch titles plus Mario Kart for December. And at least 50 VC titles.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on November 17, 2013, 01:26:15 PM
Quote from: mjemirzian on November 17, 2013, 07:45:14 AM
Console gaming is dead, long live console gaming. ???

The only surprise is that Sony managed to deliver 1 million units to US on day one,production lines must be fuming.Console launches are like most games launches,heavily frontloaded.We are talking about videogame nerds,not mass market.
WiiU was sold out too(400k first week,425k November NPD).

This is certainly a good thing,but we don't know the most important thing---software distribution.The real question is---will PS4 and Xbone be strong enough to stop rapid software sales decline or at least give a glimmer of hope for the future?



Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on November 17, 2013, 03:40:29 PM
Except for the Wii U (lol), every system usually sells out.  It's after the first five million hardware units where the real test begins.  Furthermore for this genreation, you need a large userbase who buys shitloads of games in order to justify the gargantuan budgets that games like Titanfall will have.  The PS4 and Xbone are going to have to sell like the Wii during the fad years with 360 software attachment rates to make this generation work.  I hope it does since I don't want anyone to lose their job but we'll see what happens.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: AdmiralViscen on November 17, 2013, 03:40:52 PM
Wii u never sold out
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Tasty on November 17, 2013, 04:05:09 PM
Quote from: AdmiralViscen on November 17, 2013, 03:40:52 PM
Wii u never sold out

No, but Nintendo sold out.

To the casuals.

:yeshrug
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on November 17, 2013, 04:06:02 PM
Quote from: AdmiralViscen on November 17, 2013, 03:40:52 PM
Wii u never sold out

I could be wrong but I seem to remember some shortage talk(after first week or so).November NPD(425k) was week after Nintendo PR(400k).
December was 600k something.

400k something
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Shaka Khan on November 17, 2013, 04:14:13 PM
Quote from: Phoenix Dark on November 17, 2013, 12:13:14 PM
XB1 will probably do half of that in all of November.

For 2013, Xbone will sell in NA whatever they end up shipping. Which is why we won't get a clear picture of the demand for the first couple of months. For all we know demand for PS4 in NA can crater while brand image carry the xbone among tween twats.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: cool breeze on November 17, 2013, 04:50:50 PM
yeah, launch numbers don't say much.  my only guess is that dead rising 3 will be the best selling exclusive between the two consoles

but March should be interesting.  at least in these early months it's the first time xbone will have an advantage with titanfall.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: thisismyusername on November 17, 2013, 05:08:44 PM
Quote from: Tasty Meat on November 17, 2013, 04:05:09 PM
Quote from: AdmiralViscen on November 17, 2013, 03:40:52 PM
Wii u never sold out

No, but Nintendo sold out.

To the casuals.

:yeshrug

I'll give you a pity like simply because I laughed and then felt bad because I know you're feeling pain while saying that.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on November 17, 2013, 05:11:20 PM
Quote from: Phoenix Dark on November 17, 2013, 12:46:03 PM
WiiU sold 1.4m in NA this year. Ouch.

It's over for them. They had a great one year window to establish themselves in. Really makes me wonder if they would have been better off launching the console this holiday season instead of last year. $300 October launch with Mario 3D World, Pikmin, CoD (lol I know) as launch titles plus Mario Kart for December. And at least 50 VC titles.
Things would be even worse.

My little theory...*short version*

I think that Wii has caused major Nintendo core fanbase erosion.

Casuals?
Confusing marketing,smartphones and tablets took care of them.WiiU fanbase =Nintendo fans that play everything else on other systems

Fix?
Go back in time and c/p Sony.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: MCD on November 17, 2013, 05:16:48 PM
Fix = get their handheld fanbase into buying their console by merging the two. Wii U should be a docking station to the 3DS.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Smooth Groove on November 17, 2013, 05:18:04 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SEMnZipkO8Y
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on November 17, 2013, 05:26:22 PM
Quote from: MCD on November 17, 2013, 05:16:48 PM
Fix = get their handheld fanbase into buying their console by merging the two. Wii U should be a docking station to the 3DS.

Interesting idea,but you are talking about merging two very different worlds.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: cool breeze on November 17, 2013, 05:40:52 PM
Most people have the same idea.  Nintendo got the Wii U backward.  Nintendo should learn from the Sega Nomad and make its next handheld a portable Wii U: The Nintendo Umad
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: AdmiralViscen on November 17, 2013, 06:47:40 PM
Quote from: maxy on November 17, 2013, 04:06:02 PM
Quote from: AdmiralViscen on November 17, 2013, 03:40:52 PM
Wii u never sold out

I could be wrong but I seem to remember some shortage talk(after first week or so).November NPD(425k) was week after Nintendo PR(400k).
December was 600k something.

400k something

If you pull up the original Wii U thread you will see this same talking point shot down in November 2012 with links to Target.com, walmart.com, gamestop.com, bestbuy.com all in stock. It never happened.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Himu on November 17, 2013, 07:38:32 PM
Quote from: Smooth Groove on November 17, 2013, 05:18:04 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SEMnZipkO8Y

How do I know this war is over? Because Xbox One doesn't have a Groupon coupon. :rofl :rofl :rofl
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Phoenix Dark on November 17, 2013, 08:03:00 PM
Quote from: maxy on November 17, 2013, 05:11:20 PM
Quote from: Phoenix Dark on November 17, 2013, 12:46:03 PM
WiiU sold 1.4m in NA this year. Ouch.

It's over for them. They had a great one year window to establish themselves in. Really makes me wonder if they would have been better off launching the console this holiday season instead of last year. $300 October launch with Mario 3D World, Pikmin, CoD (lol I know) as launch titles plus Mario Kart for December. And at least 50 VC titles.
Things would be even worse.

My little theory...*short version*

I think that Wii has caused major Nintendo core fanbase erosion.

Casuals?
Confusing marketing,smartphones and tablets took care of them.WiiU fanbase =Nintendo fans that play everything else on other systems

Fix?
Go back in time and c/p Sony.

You're probably right. Nintendo is stuck with a problem they created for three generations: nerds only buying Nintendo games. But

The faster they shitcan the WiiU, the faster they can rebound with a better console. Get rid of the game pad and use that $100-200 to upgrade the CPU/graphics. Full VC support, 3DS compatibility. Launch with SSB and Zelda.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on November 17, 2013, 08:13:41 PM
I think Nintendo's console days are almost done.  I'm not saying going third party.  I think the Wii U 2, if one ever gets made, should be like an Apple TV that happens to play Nintendo games.  It would be a cheap media set top box that would sell for $150-200.  It would be a standard controller with no gimmicks.  There will still be a generation gap but without the stupid premium Nintendo thinks they can charge on their consoles.  The DS/Wii model of low end hardware with a gimmick sold at a premium price is dead.  The 2DS is a realization of that fact.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Tasty on November 18, 2013, 12:18:13 AM
Quote from: thisismyusername on November 17, 2013, 05:08:44 PM
Quote from: Tasty Meat on November 17, 2013, 04:05:09 PM
Quote from: AdmiralViscen on November 17, 2013, 03:40:52 PM
Wii u never sold out

No, but Nintendo sold out.

To the casuals.

:yeshrug

I'll give you a pity like simply because I laughed and then felt bad because I know you're feeling pain while saying that.

:lol No pain at all. Maybe I would have been sore five years ago.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on November 18, 2013, 02:11:47 PM
Quote from: AdmiralViscen on November 17, 2013, 06:47:40 PM
Quote from: maxy on November 17, 2013, 04:06:02 PM
Quote from: AdmiralViscen on November 17, 2013, 03:40:52 PM
Wii u never sold out

I could be wrong but I seem to remember some shortage talk(after first week or so).November NPD(425k) was week after Nintendo PR(400k).
December was 600k something.

400k something

If you pull up the original Wii U thread you will see this same talking point shot down in November 2012 with links to Target.com, walmart.com, gamestop.com, bestbuy.com all in stock. It never happened.

Yeah,you are right.Sold out was just a PR thing...

 :-[
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on November 18, 2013, 07:28:59 PM
Nintards reported that since their local Walmart or Target didn't have them in stock, therefore it was sold out nationwide.

I made a nice profit selling my launch Wii U so I can't complain.  It was funny seeing fully stocked Wii U shelves in the middle of December.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on November 25, 2013, 04:11:32 AM
It looks like Xboner sold 2x360(140k) launch in UK.Forza is the best selling exclusive,Fifa the best selling game.

PSP still remains UK launch record holder.

1.PSP(185k)
2.PS3(165k)
3.XO(140k)


Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: archnemesis on November 25, 2013, 04:55:18 AM
The PS4 is severely supply constrained in Sweden. I pre-ordered one in August and that wasn't early enough to be guaranteed a system before Christmas. This year Sony will sell out whatever they manage to produce, but that might not be enough to beat those records.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: radioheadrule83 on November 25, 2013, 06:47:56 AM
Quote from: Mary Tyler Whore on November 18, 2013, 07:28:59 PM
Nintards reported that since their local Walmart or Target didn't have them in stock, therefore it was sold out nationwide.

I made a nice profit selling my launch Wii U so I can't complain.  It was funny seeing fully stocked Wii U shelves in the middle of December.

The UK situation was a real bellwether warning for how bad the next year was going to be. They shipped fewer consoles to the whole of Europe than they had previously shipped Wiis and Gamecubes at launch to the UK. They KNEW they weren't ready and hadn't whipped up the requisite hype, and shipped a low amount, and there were STILL systems on shelves a few weeks after launch. It didn't actually feel like a console launch at all... marketing was non-existent. Its like the austerity that was plaguing the world was also manifesting in Nintendo's conservatism.

To contrast, I've seen a lot of Sony and Microsoft product placement / advertising. Xbox are absolutely kicking ass on UK TV, the advert placement has been quite genius - placed in the breaks of huge shows, sometimes with multiple ads together in the same break... Sony have just started airing their '4theplayers' ads and are pushing PS3 heavily during their big football ad break slots and stuff (which perhaps says something about what they think us povvos in the UK can actually afford)
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on November 25, 2013, 07:17:14 AM
Quote
Microsoft’s Xbox One sold around 150k units in its first 48 hours in the UK, MCV understands.

Chart-Track this morning confirmed that Xbox One doubled the week one UK sales of its predecessor Xbox 360, which was launched worldwide in 2005.

Numbers released the week after Xbox 360’s launch showed that the console sold 70k in the UK in the same period, although MCV has since been informed that the Xbox One number is in fact slightly over double this.

Perhaps more tellingly this means that Xbox One is, according to the same source, now just a few thousand units short of beating the Wii U’s total UK sales accrued since its release a year ago this week.
http://www.mcvuk.com/news/read/xbox-one-sells-150k-units-in-first-week-in-uk/0124857

 :derp
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Stoney Mason on November 25, 2013, 11:29:23 AM
Reading those Nintendo fanboy posts in threads like these over at GAF is really amazing.

I've never cared for sales as a measure of dick waving. Inherently I don't really care what console sells the most or what games sell the most. Sales are simply a tool to understand the market and why decisions are made and why resources are allocated the way they are. But these people can't separate that viewpoint from the viewpoint of rooting for their favorite football team. So its all anger, and tears, and salt.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Himu on November 25, 2013, 12:47:57 PM
So we know 150k of the 1m xboner sales are UK. Any predictions for USA and Canada?
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on November 27, 2013, 08:28:51 AM
Stolen from duckroll

Quote
It has finally happened. The epic conclusion to Lightning's saga launched in Japan last week and the first week sales are in. The results are disastrous, showing another 50% drop from the already low launch sales of previous entry.

http://www.4gamer.net/games/117/G011794/20131127061/

Lightning Returns Final Fantasy XIII (PS3) - 277,082

Comparison of launch week sales for the FFXIII series:

2009: Final Fantasy XIII (PS3) - 1,501,964
2011: Final Fantasy XIII-2 (PS3) - 524,217
2013: Lightning Returns Final Fantasy XIII (PS3) - 277,082

DAT DECLINE.


 :rejoice

Smartphone future :bow2


Quote
Media Create Sales: Week 47, 2013 (Nov 18 - Nov 24)

01./00. [PS3] Lightning Returns: Final Fantasy XIII <RPG> (Square Enix) {2013.11.21} (¥7.770) - 277.082 / NEW
02./00. [WIU] Super Mario 3D World <ACT> (Nintendo) {2013.11.21} (¥5.985) - 99.588 / NEW
03./00. [3DS] One Piece: Unlimited World Red # <ACT> (Bandai Namco Games) {2013.11.21} (¥5.980) - 83.605 / NEW
04./05. [3DS] Pokemon X / Y # <RPG> (Pokemon Co.) {2013.10.12} (¥4.800) - 72.932 / 3.002.738 (-12%)
05./00. [3DS] Aikatsu! 2-nin no My Princess <SLG> (Bandai Namco Games) {2013.11.21} (¥5.480) - 72.087 / NEW
06./01. [PSV] God Eater 2 # <ACT> (Bandai Namco Games) {2013.11.14} (¥5.980) - 39.052 / 305.378 (-85%)
07./03. [PS3] World Soccer Winning Eleven 2014 <SPT> (Konami) {2013.11.14} (¥7.980) - 35.879 / 187.678 (-76%)
08./02. [PS3] Call of Duty: Ghosts - Subtitled Edition <ACT> (Square Enix) {2013.11.14} (¥7.980) - 29.252 / 219.883 (-85%)
09./07. [3DS] Monster Hunter 4 # <ACT> (Capcom) {2013.09.14} (¥5.990) - 21.120 / 2.959.789 (-20%)
10./00. [PSP] God Eater 2 # <ACT> (Bandai Namco Games) {2013.11.14} (¥5.980) - 20.508 / 132.531
11./00. [PS3] Monster Hunter Frontier G: Beginner's Package <ACT> (Capcom) {2013.11.20} (¥6.090) - 19.334 / NEW
12./00. [WIU] Taiko no Tatsujin: Wii U Version! # <ACT> (Bandai Namco Games) {2013.11.21} (¥5.480) - 19.265 / NEW
13./00. [PSV] New Atelier Rorona: Hajimari no Monogatari - The Alchemist of Arland # <RPG> (Gust) {2013.11.21} (¥6.090) - 17.536 / NEW
14./00. [PS3] New Atelier Rorona: Hajimari no Monogatari - The Alchemist of Arland # <RPG> (Gust) {2013.11.21} (¥7.140) - 14.060 / NEW
15./09. [PS3] Grand Theft Auto V <ACT> (Take-Two Interactive Japan) {2013.10.10} (¥7.770) - 13.548 / 593.370 (-33%)
16./06. [3DS] Daigasso! Band Brothers P <ACT> (Nintendo) {2013.11.14} (¥4.800) - 12.635 / 52.831 (-69%)
17./12. [PS3] Jikkyou Powerful Pro Baseball 2013 <SPT> (Konami) {2013.10.24} (¥3.980) - 9.485 / 190.659 (-30%)
18./10. [PS3] Battlefield 4 <ACT> (Electronic Arts) {2013.11.07} (¥7.665) - 9.134 / 150.124 (-53%)
19./11. [PSP] World Soccer Winning Eleven 2014 <SPT> (Konami) {2013.11.14} (¥3.980) - 7.624 / 24.600 (-55%)
20./16. [3DS] Battle For Money Sentouchuu: Densetsu no Shinobi no Survival Battle! <ACT> (Bandai Namco Games) {2013.10.17} (¥4.980) - 7.046 / 102.350 (-12%)

Quote
FAMITSU HARDWARE SALES, WEEK 47, 2013 (November 18th - November 24th):

3DS - 70,912
PSV - 32,138
WIU - 20,177
PS3 - 12,106
PSP - 3,296
WII - 813
360 - 385

What have you people done to Oscar? :maf

MC
Quote
    PSP GO   VITA TV
w1  29,109    42,172
w2  13,992     7,868

VitaTV :lawd


Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: radioheadrule83 on November 27, 2013, 08:49:30 AM
There will either be no significant market for PS4 to sell to in February, or it'll fly out the floodgates as something people are actually excited about for once. It's hard to tell...

I think anyone who released anything this week will basically be disappointed.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Great Rumbler on November 27, 2013, 09:18:22 AM
XIII-3 would have sold three time that amount if S-E had been smart enough to release it on the 3DS. :smug
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on November 27, 2013, 10:00:47 AM
3D World did shitty with a minor bump in HW :sabu
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Great Rumbler on November 27, 2013, 10:09:35 AM
Quote from: Mary Tyler Whore on November 27, 2013, 10:00:47 AM
3D World did shitty with a minor bump in HW :sabu

It'll hang around in the top 20 for a long time, though. XIII-3 will probably be gone by the third week.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: magus on November 27, 2013, 10:13:39 AM
honestly i'm happy to see both games bomb :sabu
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Tasty on November 27, 2013, 10:49:14 AM
Quote from: magus on November 27, 2013, 10:13:39 AM
honestly i'm happy to see both games bomb :sabu

:what
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: radioheadrule83 on November 27, 2013, 11:02:28 AM
Looking at the tail on 3D Land, I suspect this will beat out Sunshine eventually -- providing they don't let the system stagnate below 10k again next year

(http://i.imgur.com/XLf4ru5.png)

Biggest thing hurting Wii U right now is 3DS. I have to agree with posters on GAF that said this is similar to what Vita initially experienced in terms of perception... GOW, Uncharted and the like weren't different enough to make it move. Even after eventually correcting that, Sony have struggled to sell it. Its only now that it is gradually becoming healthier - in Japan at least. Wii U doesn't have a tearaway, layton, pullblox, kid icarus, luigis mansion 2, etc. Minor unique experiences might be as important as big exclusives. All the big games so far have been really iterative, at least in terms of how you would perceive them at a glance. I also agree that Smash 3DS is going to hurt the impact of Smash Wii U.

People asking for 2D Metroid (and the like) are bonkers if they think that'd help sales, as the system has plenty 2D platforming, but a Metroid of some description would be nice. I really hope their next software tranche is more daring than what they've done so far. The other 2D platformers (DKCTF, Yoshis Yarn etc) aren't going to do shit to help.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: thisismyusername on November 27, 2013, 12:24:04 PM
Quote from: Borys on November 27, 2013, 10:51:48 AM
http://i.imgur.com/nljIHxM.png

You can already scratch off Megaman in Smash. That has a 3DS version. Why would someone need to buy a new console for it/  ??? ???
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Tasty on November 27, 2013, 12:42:54 PM
Because I have a feeling Smash on 3DS is going to be the inferior version, by quite a lot.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: AdmiralViscen on November 27, 2013, 07:03:33 PM
Using 3D Land as a guide indicates that this will not outsellsunshine actually
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: thisismyusername on November 27, 2013, 08:41:43 PM
Quote from: Tasty Meat on November 27, 2013, 12:42:54 PM
Because I have a feeling Smash on 3DS is going to be the inferior version, by quite a lot.

Unless the online is ass, outside of super anal people (like you) I doubt the majority of the world will care and will get it on whichever platform they own (most likely the 3DS).

I'm sure you'll be back in a month from their launch to tell me "I told you so," but I just can't see people buying a Wii U for Smash.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: radioheadrule83 on November 28, 2013, 08:45:30 AM
Quote from: AdmiralViscen on November 27, 2013, 07:03:33 PM
Using 3D Land as a guide indicates that this will not outsellsunshine actually

Using the only metric we have in the graph - first week sales to LTD ratio, and assuming it doesn't massively deviate from past performance of more recent entries - it could be more front loaded like SMG2 and end up in the ballpark of 750k (a little bit worse than sunshine), or perform in a less front-loaded way like 3D Land (which might require HW sales improvement). If it could have legs and achieve a similar ratio to SM3DL, it would end up in the ballpark of 1.3m.

Being as acclaimed as it is I think it could fall somewhere between the two, and would be a shame if it didn't at least do that. But I'm showing a lot of possibly misplaced faith in Nintendo there, assuming that they will try and take action to stop this clusterfuck continuing forever.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: magus on November 28, 2013, 09:07:39 AM
Quote from: thisismyusername on November 27, 2013, 08:41:43 PM
Quote from: Tasty Meat on November 27, 2013, 12:42:54 PM
Because I have a feeling Smash on 3DS is going to be the inferior version, by quite a lot.

Unless the online is ass, outside of super anal people (like you) I doubt the majority of the world will care and will get it on whichever platform they own (most likely the 3DS).

I'm sure you'll be back in a month from their launch to tell me "I told you so," but I just can't see people buying a Wii U for Smash.

the two games will apparently have a different stage selection (no galaxy stage on 3DS!) so maybe that will make a difference?
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: AdmiralViscen on November 28, 2013, 09:11:24 AM
Quote from: radioheadrule83 on November 28, 2013, 08:45:30 AM
Quote from: AdmiralViscen on November 27, 2013, 07:03:33 PM
Using 3D Land as a guide indicates that this will not outsellsunshine actually

Using the only metric we have in the graph - first week sales to LTD ratio, and assuming it doesn't massively deviate from past performance of more recent entries - it could be more front loaded like SMG2 and end up in the ballpark of 750k (a little bit worse than sunshine), or perform in a less front-loaded way like 3D Land (which might require HW sales improvement). If it could have legs and achieve a similar ratio to SM3DL, it would end up in the ballpark of 1.3m.

Being as acclaimed as it is I think it could fall somewhere between the two, and would be a shame if it didn't at least do that. But I'm showing a lot of possibly misplaced faith in Nintendo there, assuming that they will try and take action to stop this clusterfuck continuing forever.

344,608 is 18% of 3D Land's 1,883,293. If 3D World's launch of 106,697 is 18% of the game's legs, it will have a tail of around 575k, and an LTD below 700k, well short of Sunshine.

I think handhelds generally have longer tails than consoles anywho

9am maths!
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on November 28, 2013, 09:20:50 AM
No but you see, due to that Nintendo Magic™, 3D World will actually outsell 3D Land when you look at the ratios and the proportions of the first week sales to the LTD as well as the sales legs.  Think about the sales legs!  It just makes sense!

(http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc130/esmith1985/shepicide_zpsa7905c1a.gif)
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: radioheadrule83 on November 28, 2013, 09:23:28 AM
Quote from: AdmiralViscen on November 28, 2013, 09:11:24 AM
Quote from: radioheadrule83 on November 28, 2013, 08:45:30 AM
Quote from: AdmiralViscen on November 27, 2013, 07:03:33 PM
Using 3D Land as a guide indicates that this will not outsellsunshine actually

Using the only metric we have in the graph - first week sales to LTD ratio, and assuming it doesn't massively deviate from past performance of more recent entries - it could be more front loaded like SMG2 and end up in the ballpark of 750k (a little bit worse than sunshine), or perform in a less front-loaded way like 3D Land (which might require HW sales improvement). If it could have legs and achieve a similar ratio to SM3DL, it would end up in the ballpark of 1.3m.

Being as acclaimed as it is I think it could fall somewhere between the two, and would be a shame if it didn't at least do that. But I'm showing a lot of possibly misplaced faith in Nintendo there, assuming that they will try and take action to stop this clusterfuck continuing forever.

344,608 is 18% of 3D Land's 1,883,293. If 3D World's launch of 106,697 is 18% of the game's legs, it will have a tail of around 575k, and an LTD below 700k, well short of Sunshine.

I think handhelds generally have longer tails than consoles anywho

9am maths!

I worked out initial week / total sales, so for 3D Land: 344698 / (344698 + 1883293) = ~15% ...
(106697/15)*75+106697 for the estimate on 3D World

I did the same for SMG2 to try and come up with a range of how I felt it might do

Looking at the graph I think I misread it though... ie. 1,883,293 already takes into account the 344,698 first week sales - so I would not at all be surprised to see it come well under Sunshine as you project there
 
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Trent Dole on November 28, 2013, 02:03:54 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFoC3TR5rzI
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Takao on December 02, 2013, 03:48:14 AM
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2013-12-02-ps4-fastest-selling-console-in-uk-history

When Knack sells more than Mario  :ufup
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on December 02, 2013, 04:23:15 AM
I thought that might happen,lol

Apparently Sony had like 300k consoles ready for UK launch.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Bebpo on December 02, 2013, 04:50:57 AM
I'm just glad Knack is bundled over there so people are being forced to play it because it's a game few would've bought (because of look/genre/reviews) but almost everyone who plays it enjoys it so it's getting a fan following already.  They should've done the same thing for the US tbh.  Just hope it sells even between the worldwide launches to let them make an improved sequel in a couple of years.  Could be a really good series like Jak/Ratchet/Sly with some changes.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: archnemesis on December 02, 2013, 04:59:26 AM
I'm getting Knack early next year. The low Metascore should make the price go down fast after Christmas. Charging $100 (yay, European prices!) for a mediocre 10 hour game isn't reasonable.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Bebpo on December 02, 2013, 05:28:44 AM
Quote from: Borys on December 02, 2013, 05:18:06 AM
Save your money on Knack - it will be free on PS+ in the matter of 6 months. There are better games to be bought on the PS4.

Actually from my experience with the launch games...there really aren't many.  ACIV and maybe some multiplayer stuff.  Knack is waaaaaaaaaay better than KZ single player, so probably better than BF4/CoD SP as well.  NBA2K14 has awful SP career mode.  I'm still on the fence with NFS and Lego Marvel.  Madden/Fifa are no-effort port jobs.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on December 02, 2013, 08:20:42 AM
UK

Reliable sourceTM

PS4 boxed software (and pre-launch weeks rolled up) were around 32% greater than the run up and launch week of Xbox One.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: mjemirzian on December 02, 2013, 09:21:54 AM
Quote from: Bebpo on December 02, 2013, 04:50:57 AM
I'm just glad Knack is bundled over there so people are being forced to play it
How many people have you chained up and forced to play Knack so far? :o
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Himu on December 02, 2013, 09:49:33 AM
Aaha KNACK outselling Mario. Hahahaahaha.

Also god DAMN at those ps4 launch figures. We may be in for a new ps2 generation where there's one dominant console.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Himu on December 02, 2013, 09:59:14 AM
Quote from: Borys on December 02, 2013, 05:19:30 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/c2AKs5k.jpg)

Ouch.

Source UK ps4 numbers. Afaik charttrak hasn't released numbers.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: cool breeze on December 02, 2013, 03:11:03 PM
If nothing else the sales of the PS3 and Wii U make the idea of "winning" a generation seem real dumb.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Himu on December 02, 2013, 03:13:12 PM
Can you expound upon your post, Frying?
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: cool breeze on December 02, 2013, 03:41:05 PM
PS2 and Wii were hugely successful.  The follow ups were/are not.  I suppose the opposite works too.  Most people don't seem to care about brand loyalty.

Although you can argue PS2 killed the dreamcast.  I know the fire still burns for sega kids.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on December 02, 2013, 03:43:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Road

PS4 software was 32% greater than XB1, but PS4 hardware was 67% greater?

Am I understanding this right? Also, is this money or units?

Thanks.

Bank analyst
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Think about the type of buyer, the PS4 is being marketed as a cheaper next-gen console so it will naturally attract people who buy games at a lesser rate. Bone, by virtue of being more expensive, will attract the most hardcore gamers from the outset, and these people will have a more voracious gaming appetite. Over time this will equalise.

Also take into account that the best launch title (Resogun) comes free with PS+.

l o l

Resogun
 :dead
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Himu on December 02, 2013, 04:25:58 PM
Quote from: fryinghigh on December 02, 2013, 03:41:05 PM
PS2 and Wii were hugely successful.  The follow ups were/are not.  I suppose the opposite works too.  Most people don't seem to care about brand loyalty.

Although you can argue PS2 killed the dreamcast.  I know the fire still burns for sega kids.

But ps3 was successful and is the second most popular console world wide. It is successful considering what obstacles it had. Comparing wii u to ps3 is..well...
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Damian79 on December 02, 2013, 07:05:37 PM
What about the Vita in that graph?
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on December 03, 2013, 03:16:48 AM
Quote from: Formerly Known As Himuro on December 02, 2013, 04:25:58 PM
Quote from: fryinghigh on December 02, 2013, 03:41:05 PM
PS2 and Wii were hugely successful.  The follow ups were/are not.  I suppose the opposite works too.  Most people don't seem to care about brand loyalty.

Although you can argue PS2 killed the dreamcast.  I know the fire still burns for sega kids.

But ps3 was successful and is the second most popular console world wide. It is successful considering what obstacles it had. Comparing wii u to ps3 is..well...

Honestly,I think PS3 was in big danger of becoming WiiU like.But unlike Nintendo,Sony chose to fight.They literally poured $5 billion into it and started taking online seriously.
To be fair,Sony had lot of goodwill coming from PS2 and pricing was the real problem but if ignore option was chosen,time would kill any remaining goodwill.People forget things very quickly these days.



Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: MCD on December 03, 2013, 03:18:54 AM
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In what is shaping up to be a historic year for gamers, I’m delighted to share an important new milestone with you. PS4’s North American debut on November 15th was PlayStation’s largest ever, with more than one million gamers picking up a PS4 in just 24 hours. Now, with PS4’s global launch expanding to a total of 32 countries worldwide, including Europe and Latin America, I’m proud to announce that more than 2.1 million PS4s have been sold.

http://blog.us.playstation.com/2013/12/03/ps4-global-sales-update/
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on December 03, 2013, 04:03:34 AM
NA--1.4 million units
Rest of the world--700k

Seems fair.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: DCharlieJP on December 03, 2013, 04:07:59 AM
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Also god DAMN at those ps4 launch figures. We may be in for a new ps2 generation where there's one dominant console.

while it's early - i think i went on record in this thread saying that both PS4 and Xbone would do fine (PINCH OF SALT AT THE MOMENT... but... the whole "Well, if the WiiU bombolaed then..." lol)

Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: pilonv1 on December 03, 2013, 04:25:09 AM
Launch sales aren't that telling, lets check back in six months and see where we're at.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on December 03, 2013, 05:33:33 AM
Real fight starts next week.Let's see what next gen brick buyers will actually buy once hardware(bundles) dwindle down.I expect good old digital excuses again.

Not betting on Knack,btw. :D
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Himu on December 03, 2013, 12:57:04 PM
Quote from: maxy on December 03, 2013, 03:16:48 AM
Quote from: Formerly Known As Himuro on December 02, 2013, 04:25:58 PM
Quote from: fryinghigh on December 02, 2013, 03:41:05 PM
PS2 and Wii were hugely successful.  The follow ups were/are not.  I suppose the opposite works too.  Most people don't seem to care about brand loyalty.

Although you can argue PS2 killed the dreamcast.  I know the fire still burns for sega kids.

But ps3 was successful and is the second most popular console world wide. It is successful considering what obstacles it had. Comparing wii u to ps3 is..well...

Honestly,I think PS3 was in big danger of becoming WiiU like.But unlike Nintendo,Sony chose to fight.They literally poured $5 billion into it and started taking online seriously.
To be fair,Sony had lot of goodwill coming from PS2 and pricing was the real problem but if ignore option was chosen,time would kill any remaining goodwill.People forget things very quickly these days.

Considering the fact the difference between Wii U and PS3 launch sales, I highly doubt ps3 would ever have been Wii U status.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on December 03, 2013, 04:00:56 PM
Quote from: Formerly Known As Himuro on December 03, 2013, 12:57:04 PM
Quote from: maxy on December 03, 2013, 03:16:48 AM
Quote from: Formerly Known As Himuro on December 02, 2013, 04:25:58 PM
Quote from: fryinghigh on December 02, 2013, 03:41:05 PM
PS2 and Wii were hugely successful.  The follow ups were/are not.  I suppose the opposite works too.  Most people don't seem to care about brand loyalty.

Although you can argue PS2 killed the dreamcast.  I know the fire still burns for sega kids.

But ps3 was successful and is the second most popular console world wide. It is successful considering what obstacles it had. Comparing wii u to ps3 is..well...

Honestly,I think PS3 was in big danger of becoming WiiU like.But unlike Nintendo,Sony chose to fight.They literally poured $5 billion into it and started taking online seriously.
To be fair,Sony had lot of goodwill coming from PS2 and pricing was the real problem but if ignore option was chosen,time would kill any remaining goodwill.People forget things very quickly these days.

Considering the fact the difference between Wii U and PS3 launch sales, I highly doubt ps3 would ever have been Wii U status.

Launch sales just show the amount of hardcore brand loyalty,imo.In EU PS3 sold 600k in first 48 hours,iirc.

My point was that if Sony continued "fuck you,get two jobs,we are $600 premium experience",then they would land right into irrelevancy(given enough time).Brand loyalty has its limits.

As for WiiU,I think that Nintendo fanbase has either been assimilated into PC/PS360 (online)communities or they are just sticking with 3DS patiently waiting to see what happens with WiiU.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Human Snorenado on December 03, 2013, 04:45:19 PM
Quote from: pilonv1 on December 03, 2013, 04:25:09 AM
Launch sales aren't that telling, lets check back in six months and see where we're at.

Fortunately, we *can* check one console's first year sales, and what we learn is that the WiiU has basically been outsold in the past six months by the PS4 and Xboner in the first 24 hours.

:dead
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Human Snorenado on December 03, 2013, 04:49:23 PM
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-12-02/nintendo-seen-missing-target-as-sony-microsoft-sales-dwarf-wii-u.html

(http://www.quickmeme.com/img/78/78eac78e61bdd84eac86505e7acf191440dc811fd50383aef7381c98c5bb2230.jpg)
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on December 03, 2013, 04:56:39 PM
is there a jpeg or a gif of the emperor saying something like "good good let your autism fuel you" or something
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Great Rumbler on December 03, 2013, 05:52:10 PM
Quote from: MyNameIsMethodis on December 03, 2013, 04:56:39 PM
is there a jpeg or a gif of the emperor saying something like "good good let your autism fuel you" or something

No.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: DCharlieJP on December 06, 2013, 05:12:54 AM
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ah yes, two weeks into a product's life cycle, definitely time to start counting them chickens, dc

well, i'm sure doom mongers would have been all over it if it'd have bombed, so i'll take any tickertape parade going !

Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Great Rumbler on December 06, 2013, 08:02:36 AM
Quote from: DCharlieJP on December 06, 2013, 05:12:54 AM
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ah yes, two weeks into a product's life cycle, definitely time to start counting them chickens, dc

well, i'm sure doom mongers would have been all over it if it'd have bombed, so i'll take any tickertape parade going !

Don't worry, DC, Oscar's just scurred now that the big bad consoles boys are back to rock the gaming world. :smug
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on December 06, 2013, 10:46:53 AM
Some UK software numbers

http://gamasutra.com/blogs/MattMatthews/20131206/206417/

(http://gamasutra.com/db_area/images/blog/206417/uk-software-units-ttm-nov-2013.png)

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Unlike the data that the NPD Group reports in the U.S., this data includes software that is bundled with hardware. And, in the case of the Xbox One, that includes thousands of bundled copies of Forza 5 and FIFA 14. That accounts for approximately one third of the total software units listed above for the Xbox One.


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More than 8.4 million Wii consoles were sold in the UK, and it wasn't until this past summer that Microsoft's previous console, the Xbox 360, was able to surpass Nintendo's installed base.

Successor sells about 150k in a year.

Maybe Brits secretly love/hate Nintendo.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: DCharlieJP on December 06, 2013, 12:23:16 PM
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Pay no attention to little shits that annoy you.

oh aye?

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That's fine.  It will make the eventual victory all the sweeter. 

for me? of course - i start celebrating now and just keep on celebrating! No downsides !


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But I'm paid off by Big Mobile, so pay no heed to me.

How does Big Mobile pay you? Do they pay you off with one small payment at first then just keep topping up with more small payments as time goes on or ... ?
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on December 07, 2013, 02:33:57 AM
Good strategy,DC.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Himu on December 07, 2013, 02:38:26 AM
Oscar's paid off because he writes for a mobile site.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on December 07, 2013, 04:33:04 AM
Some Japan news,stolen from gaf

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Sellthrough:

[PS3] Gran Turismo 6 - 30-40%
[WII] [WIU] Dragon Quest X - more than 80%
[3DS] Attack on Titan - 40-50%
[3DS] Bravely Default - 40%
[3DS] Inazuma Eleven Go 3 - 20%

[WIU] Mario & Sonic - 5%
[3DS] Gaist Crusher - bomba rabbids

Not looking good for GT6/expensive console racers in general.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: MCD on December 07, 2013, 04:39:29 AM
at least you are getting actual bucks.



#shillingforms
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: MCD on December 07, 2013, 05:21:35 AM
hey

I don't want meddle with you two personal stuff but know that I and many others here appreciate your informative sales talk. there was never a time where I saw any of your posts as paid talk.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on December 07, 2013, 05:38:00 AM
Sounds like "desperately trying to discredit someone" case.

Not cool,not cool...
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: benjipwns on December 07, 2013, 05:44:16 AM
We'll know Oscar's compromised when he starts praising Donkey Kong Country and how great it is to be able to play it on a phone.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Himu on December 07, 2013, 10:29:31 AM
To be fair Oscar, I only posted what I thought you meant. I in no way think you're actually bought off and that's stupid to think so.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Tasty on December 07, 2013, 10:57:51 AM
Too many real feels in here. :-\

This is like watching my parents get divorced but even worse.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: bork on December 07, 2013, 11:23:38 AM
Quote from: Formerly Known As Himuro on December 07, 2013, 10:29:31 AM
To be fair Oscar, I only posted what I thought you meant. I in no way think you're actually bought off and that's stupid to think so.

Did anyone take that seriously?  I must have missed something- certainly looked like DC was joking to me. 
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Tasty on December 07, 2013, 12:01:28 PM
He wasn't really joking but he definitely didn't intend it as serious as Oscar is taking it. Not that I blame him.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Great Rumbler on December 07, 2013, 12:11:07 PM
If Based Gaben would buy me a new computer, I would shill for Steam all day long and feel no shame about it.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: thisismyusername on December 07, 2013, 12:11:56 PM
Quote from: Tasty Meat on December 07, 2013, 10:57:51 AM
Too many real feels in here. :-\

This is like watching my parents get divorced but even worse.

That's okay, I'm here to comfort you. :phil

Seriously, though. Don't go Oscar. :(
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Phoenix Dark on December 07, 2013, 12:25:59 PM
Can a mod place an asterisk near Oscar's posts? I would like to be warned before reading shill views.
:violin
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Steve Youngblood on December 07, 2013, 04:19:44 PM
Oscar, would you recommend subscribing to this? http://www.vgchartz.com/pro/VGChartz-Pro.pdf
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Eel O'Brian on December 07, 2013, 04:34:46 PM
Quote from: Great Rumbler on December 07, 2013, 12:11:07 PM
If Based Gaben would buy me a new computer, I would shill for Steam all day long and feel no shame about it.

I would lift up his belly folds and give him a toot
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Great Rumbler on December 07, 2013, 05:01:44 PM
Quote from: Steve Youngblood on December 07, 2013, 04:19:44 PM
Oscar, would you recommend subscribing to this? http://www.vgchartz.com/pro/VGChartz-Pro.pdf

:rofl
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: DCharlieJP on December 07, 2013, 05:23:59 PM
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That was dc's accusation, anyway.  Still pretty upset about that.

it was? Err... are you sure that was me?


oh yes - right - my take wasn't that you were paid off - it was more that you were working in and around mobile games so you would view them in a less critical light.
You're usually the pretty first person i can expect to be cynical about gaming, but what had happened was you were less so about mobile games.

THAT was what i was saying, not particularly that you were being paid off.


woah woah woah - i'm just catching up on the rest of the posts. Will respond.


Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: DCharlieJP on December 07, 2013, 05:34:34 PM
I have to be honest and i had -no idea- that what i had posted had a) possible lead to you leaving and, more worrying, b) that it had affect our relationship. Again, i assume we are talking about the post from about 2 months ago rahter than the flippant comment i just made which was -clearly- in jest

My rant was partly serious for sure, but mostly usual "bore-talk" - i still stand by what i just posted 1 post back, that i felt your usual cynicism regarding pretty much everything felt completely missing for mobile stuff and that stuck out like a sore thumb. I honestly would have to go back and look at what i posted - but if i implied it was due to money then i'm deeply sorry.
 
I am sorry that this has been interpreted the way it has and it certainly wasn't what i intended. I can't apologize enough - i even missed the fact that you'd gone after this and all i heard from other people was "something to do with mobile gaming" and i had -no idea- that it was to do with what i had posted and now i feel like a right arsehole.


Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: magus on December 07, 2013, 06:13:45 PM
this thread

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwBCjCf7ki0
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: DCharlieJP on December 07, 2013, 06:50:13 PM
yeah - i read back the post - and yeah - i apologise - it does read much worse than what i intended to say.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Tasty on December 07, 2013, 06:57:34 PM
Now kiss and make up. :phil
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: archie4208 on December 07, 2013, 07:22:48 PM
Quote from: Great Rumbler on December 07, 2013, 12:11:07 PM
If Based Gaben would buy me a new computer, I would shill for Steam all day long and feel no shame about it.

I do it for free.  :smug
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: benjipwns on December 07, 2013, 07:37:53 PM
Quote from: Steve Youngblood on December 07, 2013, 04:19:44 PM
Oscar, would you recommend subscribing to this? http://www.vgchartz.com/pro/VGChartz-Pro.pdf
I like how "sales data" is just one of the boxes on the page that says what makes up their sales numbers.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Himu on December 07, 2013, 10:01:31 PM
:heartbeat
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Damian79 on December 07, 2013, 10:03:01 PM
Wait, wait, wait.  Isnt thinking mobile games being the future some form of cynicism in itself?
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Great Rumbler on December 07, 2013, 10:29:55 PM
10 years from now everyone will be plugging their phone/tablet into a TV and using a controller through bluetooth to play the latest Call of Duty or Halo. :yeshrug
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Human Snorenado on December 07, 2013, 10:32:56 PM
Mobile gaming just needs to play to the format's strengths- bite sized content (15-20 minute gaming sessions) and no overly complicated controls.  Catering to/exploiting compulsion certainly helps but ain't mandatory for success in the realm.

"Traditional" gamers are hostile to it because a) they're a bunch of wankers b) in the back of their minds, some of them have to know the trajectory that console gaming is on is unsustainable over the long haul.  Look at Tiesto, the poor fucker- he'll probably just stop playing new content at some point this gen rather than evolve.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Eel O'Brian on December 07, 2013, 10:47:05 PM
biggest problem with mobile gaming is that ALL the app stores (iOS/Windows/Android) are barely organized piles of ripoff trash you have to sift through to get to anything good

they all need stricter standards, and they need to enforce them

Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: ToxicAdam on December 07, 2013, 11:15:53 PM
There's plenty of dedicated mobile websites and apps that can help you find the better games.


Just like PC gaming, it takes a small amount of effort.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Takao on December 07, 2013, 11:27:45 PM
My vision for gaming future is one that primarily consists of streaming content with hardware native software just being written for enthusiast gamers on PCs, and maybe phones. I imagine over the next 10-15 years we'll see streaming do to console gaming as smartphones did to handhelds. The masses will seize a cheaper, and more accessible means of gaming. They won't have to buy $200-$600 consoles because the streaming tech will be built into everything with a display. They won't have to worry about downloading patches, or which platform to buy a game on because that stuff will be done on the back end. You'll have cross-device multiplayer. You'll have the same experience no matter what you play on.

There are certainly problems with this vision, most notably the fact that a lot of the world has horrible network infrastructure but it's the way I see media consumption going. The average consumer probably won't care about the input delay, video compression, or the fact that they don't own any form of the game. That's why I expect there to still be native software developed for PCs because that platform attracts the people who do care about those things. Phones may still receive ground up games because I'm not sure everyone will enjoy playing games designed for button inputs with a touch screen. Of course by the time I expect streaming games to be the dominant distribution style the way we interact with the medium may have changed drastically from how it is today.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: bork on December 08, 2013, 01:19:23 AM
Quote from: Creepy Old Guy on December 07, 2013, 10:32:56 PM
Mobile gaming just needs to play to the format's strengths- bite sized content (15-20 minute gaming sessions) and no overly complicated controls.  Catering to/exploiting compulsion certainly helps but ain't mandatory for success in the realm.

"Traditional" gamers are hostile to it because a) they're a bunch of wankers b) in the back of their minds, some of them have to know the trajectory that console gaming is on is unsustainable over the long haul.  Look at Tiesto, the poor fucker- he'll probably just stop playing new content at some point this gen rather than evolve.

I'm generally hostile to it because the games I want to play control like shit with touch screen only controls.  I hate that my fingers have to cover up part of the screen, too. 

But hey, there's progress being made here- if more and more games support those new iOS controllers, then problem solved.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on December 09, 2013, 04:54:33 AM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on December 07, 2013, 04:38:32 AM
Racing games have been a dead genre for a while, it just took longer to catch up to Gran Turismo.  I'm sure Europe will float it to success as usual though.

Looks like UK got the same disease.

80% decline

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2013-12-09-gran-turismo-6-launch-sales-were-just-a-fifth-of-gt5s

That puts GT6 launch around 50k.

In other news,Knack is still ahead of Mario,I guess bundles are keeping it afloat.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: bork on December 10, 2013, 04:23:04 PM
Not trolling here- is there anything different about GT6 compared to GT5?  It seems like they've just been remaking the same game over and over again since what...GT2?
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Raban on December 10, 2013, 04:43:46 PM
Better graphics engine, retouched car and track graphics, new cars and tracks, new music.

Fundamentally it's the same game. I don't see why they'd mess with what works with regards to game mechanics, but it'd be nice if there was some sort of player-progression structure to unlocking things that isn't just an empty grind for credits.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on December 11, 2013, 08:27:48 AM
(http://abload.de/img/holiday-pacmantjs10.png)
 :rejoice
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Media Create Sales: Week 49, 2013 (Dec 02 - Dec 08)

01./00. [PS3] Gran Turismo 6 # <RCE> (Sony Computer Entertainment) {2013.12.05} (¥6.980) - 204.784 / NEW
02./00. [WII] Dragon Quest X: Nemureru Yuusha to Michibiki no Meiyuu Online <RPG> (Square Enix) {2013.12.05} (¥3.990) - 117.432 / NEW
03./02. [3DS] Pokemon X / Y # <RPG> (Pokemon Co.) {2013.10.12} (¥4.800) - 111.790 / 3.200.919 (+29%)
04./00. [3DS] Attack on Titan: The Last Wings of Mankind <ACT> (Spike Chunsoft) {2013.12.05} (¥6.090) - 93.471 / NEW
05./00. [3DS] Inazuma Eleven Go Galaxy: Big Bang / Supernova <RPG> (Level 5) {2013.12.05} (¥5.500) - 91.643 / NEW
06./00. [WIU] Dragon Quest X: Nemureru Yuusha to Michibiki no Meiyuu Online <RPG> (Square Enix) {2013.12.05} (¥3.990) - 70.648 / NEW
07./04. [WIU] Super Mario 3D World <ACT> (Nintendo) {2013.11.21} (¥5.985) - 43.844 / 183.245 (+10%)
08./00. [3DS] Bravely Default: For the Sequel <RPG> (Square Enix) {2013.12.05} (¥4.990) - 35.617 / NEW
09./00. [3DS] Yu-Gi-Oh! Zexal Clash! Duel Carnival! <TBL> (Konami) {2013.12.05} (¥4.980) - 26.497 / NEW
10./03. [PS3] Lightning Returns: Final Fantasy XIII <RPG> (Square Enix) {2013.11.21} (¥7.770) - 21.600 / 358.755 (-64%)
11./10. [3DS] Monster Hunter 4 # <ACT> (Capcom) {2013.09.14} (¥5.990) - 20.601 / 3.002.358 (-6%)
12./01. [3DS] Hatsune Miku: Project Mirai 2 # <ACT> (Sega) {2013.11.28} (¥6.279) - 18.225 / 106.933 (-79%)
13./06. [PS3] Assassin's Creed IV: Black Flag <ACT> (Ubisoft) {2013.11.28} (¥7.770) - 16.920 / 52.269 (-52%)
14./07. [PS3] World Soccer Winning Eleven 2014 <SPT> (Konami) {2013.11.14} (¥7.980) - 15.523 / 228.367 (-38%)
15./08. [3DS] One Piece: Unlimited World Red # <ADV> (Bandai Namco Games) {2013.11.21} (¥5.980) - 15.145 / 123.374 (-38%)
16./26. [3DS] Animal Crossing: New Leaf # <ETC> (Nintendo) {2012.11.08} (¥4.800) - 15.039 / 3.496.578
17./24. [3DS] Friend Collection: New Life # <ETC> (Nintendo) {2013.04.18} (¥4.800) - 12.816 / 1.523.528
18./17. [3DS] Aikatsu! 2-nin no My Princess <SLG> (Bandai Namco Games) {2013.11.21} (¥5.480) - 12.737 / 99.261 (-12%)
19./12. [PSV] God Eater 2 # <ACT> (Bandai Namco Games) {2013.11.14} (¥5.980) - 12.610 / 338.544 (-39%)
20./13. [PSP] God Eater 2 <ACT> (Bandai Namco Games) {2013.11.14} (¥5.980) - 11.337 / 161.939 (-37%)
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Great Rumbler on December 11, 2013, 08:57:25 AM
:bow Nintendoland :bow2
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Himu on December 11, 2013, 11:54:56 AM
Xboner sold 2 million units in 13 territories. Jesus. So far I think both ps4 and xbox one are even Steven. I really underestimated Xbox One shipments and they just shipped a new batch. MS are doing a great job with this.

http://majornelson.com/2013/12/11/xbox-one-sells-2-million-units-in-18-days/

Also:
http://www.cracked.com/article_20727_5-reasons-video-game-industry-about-to-crash.html
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Shaka Khan on December 11, 2013, 12:15:18 PM
Xbox One sells (to customers) 2 Million Units in 18 Days (http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=732886)

(Slightly behind PS4's 2.1 million in 14 days)

Sonyponies are yiffing in agony: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=93317164&postcount=25

"Bu bu bu bu NEEEEEEEEIGH~"
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Human Snorenado on December 11, 2013, 12:37:30 PM
Just further proof that the "hardcore" gamer is fucking completely irrelevant. Suck it down, neogaffers.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Himu on December 11, 2013, 12:49:08 PM
How is that proof the hardcore gamer is irrelevant when 3ds has one of the best selling hardcore games in Japan this year? That is one helluva leap and I have no idea where or how you came to that conclusion from that graph.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Human Snorenado on December 11, 2013, 12:53:05 PM
I'm talking about Xbone sales, Himu. Everyone knows handhelds are for idiots.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Himu on December 11, 2013, 12:54:26 PM
Oh. You mean the Xbox One, the system that has a better hardcore gamer software launch lineup than ps4? :what
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Shaka Khan on December 11, 2013, 01:01:05 PM
I believe his comments were referencing the overwhelming reports (populating among GAFfers) that PS4 is selling 3x-4x more, is OOS everywhere, while xbones are sitting on shelves.

This is basically a reality check for a lot people.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Mr. Gundam on December 11, 2013, 01:04:12 PM
Quote from: Formerly Known As Himuro on December 11, 2013, 12:54:26 PM
Oh. You mean the Xbox One, the system that has a better hardcore gamer software launch lineup than ps4? :what

Neither system had a good launch lineup. One was just less shitty than the other.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Himu on December 11, 2013, 01:04:37 PM
It doesn't make core gamers irrelevant though, considering xbone is selling to both hardcore and soft core gamers.

Anyways 2 million in just 13 territories is real good.

Quote from: Mr. Gundam on December 11, 2013, 01:04:12 PM
Quote from: Formerly Known As Himuro on December 11, 2013, 12:54:26 PM
Oh. You mean the Xbox One, the system that has a better hardcore gamer software launch lineup than ps4? :what

Neither system had a good launch lineup. One was just less shitty than the other.

I didn't say the lineup was good. I did however say it was better and more appealing to core gamer tastes in games like Dead Rising and Forza. It doing well single handedly makes core gamers relevant by default.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Shaka Khan on December 11, 2013, 01:06:04 PM
"Core gamers i.e. GAF and co." is how I read it. :yeshrug
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Human Snorenado on December 11, 2013, 01:08:50 PM
Basically what Shaka said. Don't try to pretend like the asshole hardcore gamer set hasn't basically been publicly masturbating at the prospect of the PS4 shitting all over the Xbone saleswise for months now.

Note: I have no dog in this fight. If I were getting one, I'd probably get a PS4 because multi-player gaming is less important to me, it's $100 less, etc. But I don't give a shit. I just like laughing at assholes.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Himu on December 11, 2013, 01:09:24 PM
Has Sony even shipped new units? MS shipped new Ones. I think they'll take Christmas. :sabu Sony :neogaf
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Mupepe on December 11, 2013, 01:11:12 PM
Dead Rising 3 was worth the X1 launch for me.  So good. 
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Himu on December 11, 2013, 01:14:08 PM
Ah. No wonder. Because when I think of gaf the last thing I think of is hardcore gamers. when I think of hardcore gamers I think of Daigo or Iconoclast.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on December 11, 2013, 02:09:03 PM
Reality is a bitch.

We'll see what NPD says tomorrow.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Joe Molotov on December 11, 2013, 02:13:35 PM
:bow Aikatsu! 2-nin no My Princess :bow2
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on December 11, 2013, 02:26:18 PM
Guys but seriously Sony has a big lead over MS already, MS has sold less, in more time, while actually being in stock.

Ps4 sold out in a day on both continents.

This is MS control damage prior to npd ass whooping. Not to mention Europe where boner is doa.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on December 11, 2013, 02:28:55 PM
Quote from: Creepy Old Guy on December 11, 2013, 01:08:50 PM
Basically what Shaka said. Don't try to pretend like the asshole hardcore gamer set hasn't basically been publicly masturbating at the prospect of the PS4 shitting all over the Xbone saleswise for months now.

Note: I have no dog in this fight. If I were getting one, I'd probably get a PS4 because multi-player gaming is less important to me, it's $100 less, etc. But I don't give a shit. I just like laughing at assholes.

Sony went from 3rd place in the us, to fastest selling console ever.

That is shitting all over MS.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Huff on December 11, 2013, 02:29:17 PM
ugh
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Phoenix Dark on December 11, 2013, 02:30:08 PM
2mil is impressive for XB1. I wonder if it'll get it's first price cut next holiday season?
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: cool breeze on December 11, 2013, 02:31:50 PM
There really isn't a loser between the two.  I think that's why certain folk are upset. 

Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on December 11, 2013, 02:33:44 PM
Quote from: fryinghigh on December 11, 2013, 02:31:50 PM
There really isn't a loser between the two.  I think that's why certain folk are upset.

Well the loser is the wiiu, next gen is off to a flying start without it.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Phoenix Dark on December 11, 2013, 04:26:27 PM
Quote from: fryinghigh on December 11, 2013, 02:31:50 PM
There really isn't a loser between the two.  I think that's why certain folk are upset.

Definitely. You can tell the hardcore folks are just completely dismissive of casual gamers, as I said in the GAF thread. CoD, Madden, Halo, etc drive casual gaming interest. They don't care about tech nearly as much as GAF thinks, in fact they don't even know what ram is.

XB1 will be fine, especially if the NFL deal expands.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on December 11, 2013, 04:54:56 PM
Fine is being outsold 3/2 2/1 worldwide by ps4 yes?

1-1 in american and 3:1 in europe, 5:1 in japan.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Human Snorenado on December 11, 2013, 05:03:25 PM
Even in America

75,000 to 25,000 in Europe

50,000 to 10,000 in Japan

Seems livable

spoiler (click to show/hide)
Obviously I'm lying about the numbers Lager, but JESUS CHRIST YOU'RE PART OF THE PROBLEM
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Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: AdmiralViscen on December 11, 2013, 05:15:40 PM
Quote from: Lagerless on December 11, 2013, 04:54:56 PM
Fine is being outsold 3/2 2/1 worldwide by ps4 yes?

1-1 in american and 3:1 in europe, 5:1 in japan.

0:0 in Japan*
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on December 11, 2013, 05:45:15 PM
Im sorry guys please understand that I only mean half of what im
saying half the time.

But I think my estimate will prove rather good for the ratios.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Mupepe on December 11, 2013, 05:46:35 PM
Either Lager is trolling you guys or he actually cares this much.  Either way: Haha

Edit: Trolling it seems.  Darn.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on December 11, 2013, 05:46:55 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on December 11, 2013, 05:45:10 PM
Let's wait for some sell-through numbers before anyone melts down.  Shipping a ton of units and reports of piles of units sitting in stores unsold aren't logically incongruent.

All of the hardware companies have been guilty at times of channel-stuffing and using the shipped numbers to puff themselves up.

Oscar you think MS sold through 2 million to consumers?

Im really curious.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Bebpo on December 11, 2013, 05:51:03 PM
I'm happy the HD Twins are doing well as it shows the market for core gaming is still healthy as long as you reasonably budget your games and don't ass fuck your customers like Forza/NBA2K14/GT6 are doing.


Otoh, it's a bit odd that Xbone is doing as well as it is.  Just shows how bad Sony fucked up their company's position in the USA over the last 7 years.  Normally two systems with generally equal software, where one is $100 more and is weaker with worse 3rd party games would sell far less systems than the other system.  But Xbox brand is very strong in the US (people just refer to videogames as = xbox for instance, like they used to call all videogames "nintendo" decades ago) and Playstation brand has fallen a lot so in the end they'll be neck and neck.  Personally I think a lot of this coincides with the death of Japanese game taste in the USA, and companies that go for a more global audience are having a hard time competing with dudebro MS image of CoD/Madden bros.  Plus whenever Sony attempts to copy Nintendo or MS they fall hard like Playstation Allstars and Killzone.  Sony's just best at sticking to their original titles, but those original titles like Puppeteer or Sly Cooper, SoTC, or Siren, Gravity Daze, or Beyond don't have any USA appeal at all.  Their only brand with USA appeal is God of War (killing things violently), Uncharted (shooting things violently) and used to be Gran Turismo (doing things boringly), but the latter's dead at this point. 

If XB was the same price as PS4, it'd be non-surprising to see it selling as well, even with weaker hardware/3rd party because at the end of the day 95% of people buying a system don't care about system power as shown by the Wii, but you'd think $100 difference would've made a huge difference in sales between the two just on the principal of $100 is $100.  Then again, I think a lot of Xbone sales are because PS4 doesn't exist anywhere and it's either Xbone or no new system for you this xmas.  Sony should've done a better job with supply.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Himu on December 11, 2013, 05:54:58 PM
A month of a new launch system doing good numbers does not mean core gaming is still healthy.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on December 11, 2013, 05:58:03 PM
Its a hollow victory if games on these core platforms will take after mobile games and be full of microtransactions etc.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Shaka Khan on December 11, 2013, 06:23:04 PM
The language he used was very specific, so if the number *does* end up being "too optimistic" then... :ufup

Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on December 11, 2013, 06:34:55 PM
Well he also said the truth about the xbone power would be revealed when we see the games...
And that you know, there really isn't a big gap in power.

Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Takao on December 12, 2013, 12:39:04 AM
Microsoft said they sold over a million units to consumers in less than 24 hours over their 13 release countries. I initially thought they were talking about shipments because the sales day wasn't even over in most of the world by the time that press release was out. I didn't even know you could track sales that quickly.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Smooth Groove on December 12, 2013, 12:55:00 AM
Quote from: Bebpo on December 11, 2013, 05:51:03 PM
I'm happy the HD Twins are doing well as it shows the market for core gaming is still healthy as long as you reasonably budget your games and don't ass fuck your customers like Forza/NBA2K14/GT6 are doing.


What ripoff in NBA2k14?  I heard GT6 wasn't that bad. 
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on December 12, 2013, 01:06:46 AM
Quote from: Takao on December 12, 2013, 12:39:04 AM
Microsoft said they sold over a million units to consumers in less than 24 hours over their 13 release countries. I initially thought they were talking about shipments because the sales day wasn't even over in most of the world by the time that press release was out. I didn't even know you could track sales that quickly.

PR can do miracles.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: benjipwns on December 12, 2013, 01:25:34 AM
Quote from: Smooth Groove on December 12, 2013, 12:55:00 AM
What ripoff in NBA2k14?  I heard GT6 wasn't that bad.
http://www.pastapadre.com/2013/12/10/vc-implementation-threatens-the-future-of-the-nba-2k-series

spoiler (click to show/hide)
http://www.thebore.com/forum/index.php?topic=36905.msg1795552#msg1795552
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Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on December 12, 2013, 01:35:12 AM
http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702303330204579251221692606100

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TOKYO—Japan overtook the U.S. to become the world's No. 1 country in app store revenue, thanks to an explosion in growth of smartphone and tablet games.

Japanese consumers spent roughly 10% more than U.S. consumers did on all apps found on smartphones and tablets in October, according to app tracker App Annie. That amount is triple the spending in South Korea and six times that in Great Britain. Just a year ago, Japanese consumers spent 40% less than U.S. consumers.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on December 12, 2013, 03:30:21 AM
Nintendo has to make their next handheld a smartphone hybrid with android but also an exclusive nintendeo E-shop only available on this device if they are still so fucking reluctant to release mobile games.

Something like what Amazon is doing with Kindle.

When it's sink or swim you got to think to win.
-Ice Cube
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Damian79 on December 12, 2013, 04:13:10 AM
Iwata should resign because of the comments he made in regards to the wii u and retiring, however why Miyamoto?  It isnt like Nintendo is in the red.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on December 12, 2013, 04:35:55 AM


(http://www.globalnerdy.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/grandpa_simpson_yelling_at_cloud.jpg)
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: AdmiralViscen on December 12, 2013, 09:36:07 AM
Quote from: Damian79 on December 12, 2013, 04:13:10 AM
Iwata should resign because of the comments he made in regards to the wii u and retiring, however why Miyamoto?  It isnt like Nintendo is in the red.

Was it Miyamoto's idea to stock up on USD assets? That's why Nintendo's been in the black.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: radioheadrule83 on December 12, 2013, 10:26:11 AM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on December 12, 2013, 06:58:25 AM
I'm not talking about resigning.  I'm talking about they're going to need new fucking jobs.  All Nintendo has left is the handheld market, and that's pretty much only healthy in Japan.  If the smartphone market continues to expand here the way it has in the last couple of years, they're not even going to have that anymore.

I only see mobile as a threat to traditional gaming and traditional handhelds if Nintendo continue to view it as a threat rather than an opportunity. There are no Link Between Worlds or Mario 3D Lands on mobile phones, nor should there be necessarily -- they should be taking their Picrosses, Pokedexes and Pushmos and leveraging them on mobile and social to advertise fuller experiences on handhelds and consoles IMO. Do small things that get the logo in front of people and get them hooked.

There's the danger that if they did, that alone would be enough for people, but its better than just pretending that segment of the market is something they can't acknowledge, let alone step into. If some bizzarro world existed where they were capable of throwing out a 'third pillar' Gameboy / DS branded phone, via a partnership, the way Google partners with Asus or Samsung on Nexus -- they'd probably even dominate. Whereas I don't think Sony have been fully behind PS Mobile capable phones, I think if Nintendo tried that strategy they'd actually be pretty good at it and have a lot of content to use. I think they're a ways off being marginalised any further in handhelds for a little while, but you're right in that market forces will either force change or further hurt them.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Joe Molotov on December 12, 2013, 10:53:57 AM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on December 12, 2013, 02:15:11 AM
iwata better start prepping his resume

miyamoto too, if anyone's willing to hire a manchild whose genius expired in the clinton years

The Pokemon franchise has Nintendo already prepared for an IAP future, though. Gotta buy'em all!
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: magus on December 12, 2013, 03:00:56 PM
nah if nintendo made an IAP game it would be animal crossing,that thing is basicaly a social/facebook game already
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: ToxicAdam on December 12, 2013, 03:16:59 PM
Actually, a Nintendo CCG would fit in with their company history and allow them to expand it out as far as they want. A genre that's already dominated by IAP schemes and people conditioned to accept it.





Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on December 12, 2013, 05:53:00 PM
Geoff Keighley verified
Sony has just said that PS4 was the top selling next-gen platform in November for "both hardware and software" per NPD.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: fizzel on December 12, 2013, 05:59:56 PM
Who gives a toss, we wanna know how much the wii tanked.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Phoenix Dark on December 12, 2013, 06:13:48 PM
Quote
@geoffkeighley

Xbox One sold 909,132 units in November in US

 :geoff
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Bebpo on December 12, 2013, 06:17:25 PM
Very impressive for MS.  Everyone thought the number would be around 300-600k.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Phoenix Dark on December 12, 2013, 06:17:59 PM
Quote
@CVG_News 1m

Correction: Xbox One outsells PS4 in the US, though Sony's console outsells across North America (inc Canada)

(http://i.imgur.com/VZ88Pdo.gif)

edit: tweet has been deleted
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Bebpo on December 12, 2013, 06:20:54 PM
Holy shit.  USA is Xbox land confirmed.  GAF is going to die.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Steve Contra on December 12, 2013, 06:21:28 PM
If that tweet was true it's since been deleted
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Phoenix Dark on December 12, 2013, 06:24:15 PM
The tweet has been deleted. According to GAF, CVG misunderstood a press release

Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Huff on December 12, 2013, 06:32:24 PM
Ps4 vs Xbox1 is boring. Can't wait for  wiiu
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Himu on December 12, 2013, 06:34:59 PM
(http://abload.de/img/138689058428yfpko.jpg)

hardware:

https://twitter.com/geoffkeighley/status/411265992875323392
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: cool breeze on December 12, 2013, 06:37:28 PM
I managed to click on a thread in between crashes.  People rolling with 3DS beating PS4? Nintendo Family is BACK.

uh, Mario came out in November, right?

 
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Phoenix Dark on December 12, 2013, 06:39:45 PM
No Mario, no Zelda
:rofl
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Baiano19 on December 12, 2013, 06:42:12 PM
Quote from: Huff on December 12, 2013, 06:32:24 PM
Ps4 vs Xbox1 is boring. Can't wait for  wiiu

I wonder how undead a system can be.

Watch out, this could very well beat the Dreamcast
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: fistfulofmetal on December 12, 2013, 06:43:16 PM
can i get a 199 wii u now plz
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Takao on December 12, 2013, 06:51:35 PM
Quote from: fryinghigh on December 12, 2013, 06:37:28 PM
I managed to click on a thread in between crashes.  People rolling with 3DS beating PS4? Nintendo Family is BACK.

uh, Mario came out in November, right?

Sounds like 3DS is under 800k, so less than PS4. That's not great for Nintendo given the 2DS sales, Zelda, and Pokemon.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Himu on December 12, 2013, 06:53:07 PM
I think 800k units is still pretty great. How is that not great?
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Himu on December 12, 2013, 06:53:32 PM
Quote from: Phoenix Dark on December 12, 2013, 06:39:45 PM
No Mario, no Zelda
:rofl

No Pokemon.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: cool breeze on December 12, 2013, 06:56:35 PM
Quote from: Takao on December 12, 2013, 06:51:35 PM
Quote from: fryinghigh on December 12, 2013, 06:37:28 PM
I managed to click on a thread in between crashes.  People rolling with 3DS beating PS4? Nintendo Family is BACK.

uh, Mario came out in November, right?

Sounds like 3DS is under 800k, so less than PS4. That's not great for Nintendo given the 2DS sales, Zelda, and Pokemon.

yeah, sounds like people were going off "best selling console"

and Battlefield 4 must've sold quite well, and mostly on new consoles, no? I think it's an October release on PC/360/PS3.  Although they kinda wasted this opportunity if it's as broken as everyone says.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Phoenix Dark on December 12, 2013, 06:56:42 PM
3DS
November 2011 - 795k
November 2012 - 540k
November 2013 - 760k

Yea...Nintendo is in trouble.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Himu on December 12, 2013, 06:59:29 PM
Oh wow. I rectify my statement. Even after Pokemon and Zelda and the 2ds it's STILL under Nov 2011?
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Phoenix Dark on December 12, 2013, 07:01:31 PM
(http://s13.postimg.org/o464k2v7r/scrnshot.png)
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: cool breeze on December 12, 2013, 07:02:29 PM
NPD tracks black friday sales, right?  3DS had some great sales, too. $100 2DS, $150 XLs.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Phoenix Dark on December 12, 2013, 07:06:30 PM
(http://i.minus.com/jxIAVxglfgRBQ.PNG)
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Joe Molotov on December 12, 2013, 07:20:29 PM
Quote from: Phoenix Dark on December 12, 2013, 06:39:45 PM
No Mario, no Zelda
:rofl

Too cold, people didn't want to leave their houses.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Phoenix Dark on December 12, 2013, 07:23:42 PM
WiiU with a 340% increase over October's numbers (50k), which would put November sales around 220k.

Shut it down.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: cool breeze on December 12, 2013, 07:24:59 PM
sounds like Xbox One > everything Nintendo

Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Phoenix Dark on December 12, 2013, 07:28:07 PM
GameXplain
Quote
"Mario 3D World sold more than 215,000, both digital and retail"

Quote
Zelda: ALBW sold 280,000 digital and retail. If you count the hardware bundle, 405,000

GG
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Himu on December 12, 2013, 07:29:43 PM
Any numbers to compare Zelda to Phantom Hourglass to see how it fared?
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Bebpo on December 12, 2013, 07:30:28 PM
Pretty shit for Mario.  Ok for Zelda.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: nudemacusers on December 12, 2013, 07:31:08 PM
Quote from: Phoenix Dark on December 12, 2013, 07:23:42 PM
WiiU with a 340% increase over October's numbers (50k), which would put November sales around 220k.

Shut it down.
someone made a point of 3.4x vs 4.4x; it would be hilarious if they were fudging their percentage.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Human Snorenado on December 12, 2013, 07:32:57 PM
Quote from: Phoenix Dark on December 12, 2013, 07:23:42 PM
WiiU with a 340% increase over October's numbers (50k), which would put November sales around 220k.

Shut it down.

:dead
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Takao on December 12, 2013, 07:35:26 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mWUQl5-6_Uw
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Phoenix Dark on December 12, 2013, 07:38:27 PM
 :lol :lol :lol :lol
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Himu on December 12, 2013, 07:40:31 PM
:rofl
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: brob on December 12, 2013, 07:43:30 PM

[WII] Super Mario Galaxy (Nintendo) {November 12, 2007} - 1,120,000
[WIU] Super Mario 3D World (Nintendo) {November 22, 2013} - 215,000


poor Charles Martinet :(
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Human Snorenado on December 12, 2013, 07:46:47 PM
Guys, I found the Nintendo games on that list

(http://www.nlhs.com/images/hindenburg/big_hindenburg_explodes_over_lakehurst.jpg)
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: magus on December 12, 2013, 07:48:19 PM
Quote from: Formerly Known As Himuro on December 12, 2013, 06:53:32 PM
Quote from: Phoenix Dark on December 12, 2013, 06:39:45 PM
No Mario, no Zelda
:rofl

No Pokemon.

Quote
    You guys are insane lol. Look on how many platforms those games on the Top 10 are.
Quote
You're right haha, there are a ton of platforms there. Just because Mario and Zelda aren't on there doesn't mean they sold poorly.

:dead

why did we remove this from the emoticon list? (http://www.thecoli.com/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/pachah1.png)
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: cool breeze on December 12, 2013, 07:49:12 PM
so will Iwata be rewarded with another promotion?

and apparently Mario 3D World has the worst attach rate for a 3D Mario.  Even nintendo owners are tired of mario.  Then why did they buy a Wii U?
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Joe Molotov on December 12, 2013, 07:57:41 PM
Quote from: fryinghigh on December 12, 2013, 07:49:12 PM
so will Iwata be rewarded with another promotion?

and apparently Mario 3D World has the worst attach rate for a 3D Mario.  Even nintendo owners are tired of mario.  Then why did they buy a Wii U?

They didn't have a choice, that's just what their parents bought for them.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Himu on December 12, 2013, 08:00:59 PM
Quote from: fryinghigh on December 12, 2013, 07:49:12 PM
so will Iwata be rewarded with another promotion?

and apparently Mario 3D World has the worst attach rate for a 3D Mario.  Even nintendo owners are tired of mario.  Then why did they buy a Wii U?

Watch Nintendo make a new Mario to respond to this news.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Phoenix Dark on December 12, 2013, 08:13:26 PM
Quote from: Formerly Known As Himuro on December 12, 2013, 08:00:59 PM
Quote from: fryinghigh on December 12, 2013, 07:49:12 PM
so will Iwata be rewarded with another promotion?

and apparently Mario 3D World has the worst attach rate for a 3D Mario.  Even nintendo owners are tired of mario.  Then why did they buy a Wii U?

Watch Nintendo make a new Luigi to respond to this news.

Fixed.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: brob on December 12, 2013, 08:20:53 PM
2014, The Year of the Toad

:prays
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on December 12, 2013, 08:30:42 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uo-fXMxfN8E
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: nachobro on December 12, 2013, 08:46:40 PM
Those Mario numbers...  :'( What's Wii U at lifetime in the US now?
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on December 12, 2013, 09:04:37 PM
sugar numbers

75k > Vita > Sep + Oct

The top 3 3DS SKUs > 100k

GOLD
2DS BLUE
2DS RED
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Eel O'Brian on December 12, 2013, 09:09:11 PM
$179 Wii U - gamepad + mario kart pack in, Summer 2014
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Smooth Groove on December 12, 2013, 09:09:30 PM
Bundle Vita and Wii U for $250

Two dead systems for the price of 1
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on December 12, 2013, 09:14:19 PM
Vita memry card ltd

8 - 360k
16 - 172k
32 - 167k
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: pilonv1 on December 12, 2013, 09:55:12 PM
So basically it's just another month.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Damian79 on December 12, 2013, 09:55:40 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on December 12, 2013, 06:58:25 AM
Quote from: Damian79 on December 12, 2013, 04:13:10 AM
Iwata should resign because of the comments he made in regards to the wii u and retiring, however why Miyamoto?  It isnt like Nintendo is in the red.

I'm not talking about resigning.  I'm talking about they're going to need new fucking jobs.  All Nintendo has left is the handheld market, and that's pretty much only healthy in Japan.  If the smartphone market continues to expand here the way it has in the last couple of years, they're not even going to have that anymore.

Sorry for late reply.  Is it really healthy in Japan?  Maybe it only looks that way because it is doing better than those other ones which are doing that much worse in Japan?  I mean in the US it sells around 400k average a month the same as Japan right?  What makes it better or worse than Japan?
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Bebpo on December 12, 2013, 10:13:14 PM
The next-gen software thing is simply a point of too much competition (and here people said next-gen has no games).  CoD/BF4 are fighting each other and stealing all the thunder from any other FPS games like Killzone. 

What's interesting is that you would have thought XB having an exclusive FPS at launch would be a no brainer, since that's MS' audience.  Even X360 had PDZ and Condemned.  Yet, it turns out not having one was a smarter move because when you have CoD and BF, no one cares about a 3rd pillar FPS game.  It was smart saving Halo 5 as their year 1 game.  It'll do a lot better than The Order I think.

Then you have a dozen decent sellers all pulling the remaining sales from "purchase game #2 or #3" and you end up with everyone getting a little bite of the pie but no big hitters besides those.  ACIV was the 2nd buy or 3rd buy game for most people.


Also from the gaf thread:
Quote
Knack didn't break 100k (at retail...). Is selling better than internal expectations.

Ps4 was about 200k over xb1. Barely moved 100k the rest of the month after launch. Sacrificing huge NA lead for huge WW lead. Xb1 will win December

1)  Sad, but not surprised Knack didn't break 100k.  It really should've been a pack in/bundle in the US like it was in Europe.  People in the US don't buy games like Knack, especially when they get terrible reviews across the board.  Really surprised that it's selling better than internal expectations.  Why even make the game if you're only expecting 50-100k sales?  I guess WW numbers will save it and I really, really want a Knack 2 as it's a good original IP in a genre that Sony needs more of now that Ratchet is gone; maybe not though.  Could end up not selling enough to greenlight a sequel.  But then Gravity Daze is getting a sequel so who knows...

2)  December NPD is going to be a bloodbath.  I really don't know if this strategy by Sony is a good one.  US is so fiercely competitive, and so Xbox land, that giving them the lead early on seems incredibly risky since it could snowball where people buy XB as their next-gen system and then all their friends are on XB so they choose it too.  Sure it'll be nice to help build Sony's lead worldwide, but US is still the biggest market and one where they got beat down bad last gen.  I think they really need to get a lot of units back in the US in the next couple of months or risk people losing interest after the launch hype has gone.  If not, they better pump MILLIONS into marketing Infamous & Driveclub and then have a huge flourish of systems on shelfs along with those in the US to start moving the systems again.

My 2cents.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Stoney Mason on December 12, 2013, 10:40:51 PM
Sales pretty much as I expected. There was such pent up demand from the long generation that the new consoles would rocket out of the gate based solely on that.

Nintendo as far as a home console company is pretty much fucked in this country. They have the "kids" console, the least powerful console, the console without the third party support, the unhip console, and finally the console without a lifeline to connect them to the mainstream audience that the Wii leveraged. Game over for the Wii U at least as far as sales matter.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: AdmiralViscen on December 12, 2013, 10:54:16 PM
Why didn't they release it in 2010?
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Stoney Mason on December 12, 2013, 10:58:48 PM
Quote from: AdmiralViscen on December 12, 2013, 10:54:16 PM
Why didn't they release it in 2010?

Being on top of the console mountain seems to make each console company arrogant and lazy and think their current success is always going to last. Has happened to all of the big three at various times of their success. Only failure seems to make them hungry and open to change.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Joe Molotov on December 12, 2013, 11:14:47 PM
Quote from: Stoney Mason on December 12, 2013, 10:58:48 PM
Quote from: AdmiralViscen on December 12, 2013, 10:54:16 PM
Why didn't they release it in 2010?

Being on top of the console mountain seems to make each console company arrogant and lazy and think their current success is always going to last. Has happened to all of the big three at various times of their success. Only failure seems to make them hungry and open to change.

Therefore, it's almost time for Desperate Nintendo, Wii U 2 wins the console war, QED.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: HyperZoneWasAwesome on December 12, 2013, 11:16:06 PM
by that logic, the Dreamcast 2 is gonna kick sooooooo much ass.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Takao on December 12, 2013, 11:23:33 PM
Tearaway ~14k

i don't know how to respond
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Bebpo on December 12, 2013, 11:28:42 PM
Quote from: Takao on December 12, 2013, 11:23:33 PM
Tearaway ~14k

i don't know how to respond

Honestly?  That's better than I expected.  Not even spin.  I just expect Vita games to sell about 5 copies each, with 1 copy sold digitally to that one guy who has an all digital collection.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Damian79 on December 12, 2013, 11:29:37 PM
Quote from: HyperZoneWasAwesome on December 12, 2013, 11:16:06 PM
by that logic, the Dreamcast 2 is gonna kick sooooooo much ass.
Are you implying that the original dreamcast had anything wrong with it?  There was nothing wrong with the original DC, it was just undermined by ps2 marketing by the likes of EB games etc.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Himu on December 12, 2013, 11:37:58 PM
No, it was hot on the heels of saturn and you had to be crazy to buy one until it was dead because there was no reason to trust sega (at the time).
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Shaka Khan on December 12, 2013, 11:49:43 PM
Breakdown of EA's next gen software between the bone and PS4:

Quote from: creamsugar
AC
1 - 30.95%
4 - 69.05%

NSF
1 - 16.71%
4 - 48.42%
360 - 17.77%
3 - 17.11%

NFL
1 - 40.12%
4 - 59.88%

2K14
1 - 34.84%
4 - 65.16%

FIFA 14
1 - 35.43%
4 - 64.57%

NBA 14
1 - 43.40%
4 - 56.60%
Thought this was interesting, especially considering EA's partnerships with MS. Seeing how surprisingly healthy the bone's lead is, I'm not sure for how long Sony can hold onto this lead, but if they do for a while, I wonder how long it'll take EA to reevaluate their support. Maybe they won't, if money hats continue pouring from MS and better attach rates from Sony— sounds like a win-win.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Bebpo on December 12, 2013, 11:53:16 PM
3DS software also costs more than DS software to make.  Though sometimes not by much considering 3DS is still filled with shovelware zero budget licensed games that make crazyyyyy bank for the publishers.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Himu on December 12, 2013, 11:54:55 PM
Quote from: Shaka Khan on December 12, 2013, 11:49:43 PM
Breakdown of EA's next gen software between the bone and PS4:

Quote from: creamsugar
AC
1 - 30.95%
4 - 69.05%

NSF
1 - 16.71%
4 - 48.42%
360 - 17.77%
3 - 17.11%

NFL
1 - 40.12%
4 - 59.88%

2K14
1 - 34.84%
4 - 65.16%

FIFA 14
1 - 35.43%
4 - 64.57%

NBA 14
1 - 43.40%
4 - 56.60%
Thought this was interesting, especially considering EA's partnerships with MS. Seeing how surprisingly healthy the bone's lead is, I'm not sure for how long Sony can hold onto this lead, but if they do for a while, I wonder how long it'll take EA to reevaluate their support. Maybe they won't, if money hats continue pouring from MS and better attach rates from Sony— sounds like a win-win.

Huh? What? What lead does MS have?
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Bebpo on December 12, 2013, 11:55:00 PM
I figure Japan will be in major trouble with Nintendo's next handheld that's on Vita power level or so.  Gonna be really hard for devs to half-ass a simple series budget game and get people to not notice and buy it in droves by that point.  But I guess that's when those games will go mobile and most of Japan's population will too.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: bachikarn on December 13, 2013, 12:11:31 AM
So what's the main argument for Nintendo not going third party for consoles? I highly doubt they are making that much money off royalties given that third partys have abandoned them. Ntards keep saying it is an awful idea, but they aren't very credible.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: benjipwns on December 13, 2013, 12:13:54 AM
Quote from: bachikarn on December 13, 2013, 12:11:31 AM
So what's the main argument for Nintendo not going third party for consoles? I highly doubt they are making that much money off royalties given that third partys have abandoned them. Ntards keep saying it is an awful idea, but they aren't very credible.
Get some facts before you try to debate: http://www.laserlemming.com/2013/12/12/it-prints-money-why-the-wiiu-is-here-to-stay/
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Shaka Khan on December 13, 2013, 12:17:59 AM
Quote from: Formerly Known As Himuro on December 12, 2013, 11:54:55 PM
Huh? What? What lead does MS have?

I misspoke— I was going for "healthy bone numbers" rather than lead.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: HyperZoneWasAwesome on December 13, 2013, 12:25:32 AM
Quote
NBA Live 14
1 - 43.40%
4 - 56.60%
is that a percentage number, or actual copies sold?  Because I think it could be about either.



ps
Oscar's post, SNK was able to limp along for a friggin decade on the Neo-Geo, past any reasonable experiation date by a good five years or so.  Yeah, completely different era and all that, but it really doesn't strike me as that crazy that Nintendo could weather this particular storm.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: thisismyusername on December 13, 2013, 12:29:20 AM
Quote from: Takao on December 12, 2013, 11:23:33 PM
Tearaway ~14k

i don't know how to respond

If Sony put it up for $20 tomorrow, digitally on the store: I'd buy it.

But at $40? With the system being mostly "dead" in not having too many note-worthy titles besides that over the past year? It can wait, sorry Taco-kun.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Bebpo on December 13, 2013, 12:30:02 AM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on December 12, 2013, 11:58:17 PM
Quote from: Bebpo on December 12, 2013, 11:55:00 PM
I figure Japan will be in major trouble with Nintendo's next handheld that's on Vita power level or so.  Gonna be really hard for devs to half-ass a simple series budget game and get people to not notice and buy it in droves by that point.  But I guess that's when those games will go mobile and most of Japan's population will too.

i agree with your conclusion and this is already underway.  the biggest game this year in japan with the general gaming audience is a free-to-play puzzle game with static sprites, and that whole expanded audience nintendo pulled in last gen is playing line pop and line bubble now.

Now that I have an ipad I'm more open to the idea of Japan moving to mobile.  But when will we get a Bravely Default, good epic single player jrpg for mobile?  I played Chaos Rings back in the day as Japan's first attempt at that and it was pretty budget and unspectacular (go through same game a bunch of times; shallow and easy battle system).  Have they pulled off a real legit jrpg or srpg yet?  Since those are genre's aren't really handicapped by touch controls outside a 3d camera, I'm hoping one day we'll get interesting games like Beyond the Labyrinth or Radiata Stories or Bravely Default from the smaller devs that can't afford console development.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: cool breeze on December 13, 2013, 12:34:16 AM
if nothing else it'd be interesting to see what a third party nintendo would be.  some things will be better, somethings will be worse, but nintendo's current course isn't really making anyone happy.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Stoney Mason on December 13, 2013, 12:39:23 AM
While I think Nintendo would certainly be more successful than something like Sega, its hard for a company to stop doing what they know versus morphing into something different.

If they want to compete in America they have to radically change focus for this market. Something they seem unwilling or incapable of doing.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: thisismyusername on December 13, 2013, 12:40:45 AM
Third party Nintendo would be the same as Sega: Mario #1290095820345802850285029, Mario Kart #1908430850285028305820, Mario at the Olympics with Sanic #2093485029850283405820850520, Sanic that isn't truly terrible because Nintendo is the only good thing for Sonic #2093452089.

Maybe a few new IP's that may or may not bomb and then underutilizing them (Xenoblade?), but mostly the Mario workhorse keeping them afloat like Sega's Sonic did for a while before Sega finally started to break into the PC market to try to diversify.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Smooth Groove on December 13, 2013, 12:49:13 AM
:kobeyuck at Japanese gamers' tastes.  10x worse than dudebros.  Glad they're not driving the direction of mainstream gaming. 

Quote from: Takao on December 12, 2013, 11:23:33 PM
Tearaway ~14k

i don't know how to respond

I remember when people said that PSP software sucked because of piracy but Sony would love to have those numbers now.  Maybe Sony should just let people hack the Vita again.   
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Stoney Mason on December 13, 2013, 12:51:39 AM
I never thought Sega would be as big as people did around that time. I think Sega was a beloved game company with real hardcore appeal but very little mainstream appeal. (When I moved to Cali back then that was the first time I had run into what I would later dub "Sega people" which didn't exist where I came from.) When I think back to the hits of the Dreamcast it was a lot of niche beloved titles. The Genesis was the only time I think they ever really hit it mainstream when Sonic and some of that stuff was clicking.

On an anecdotal level I was working for a sega subsidiary when the whole Dreamcast thing crashed. And none of us were optimistic at all based on what we had experienced under Sega.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: thisismyusername on December 13, 2013, 12:52:17 AM
Quote from: Smooth Groove on December 13, 2013, 12:49:13 AM
I remember when people said that PSP software sucked because of piracy but Sony would love to have those numbers now.  Maybe Sony should just let people hack the Vita again.   

Well, that'd be one way to drum up coder/developer interests in the system...  :lol

What do they have in the US in 2014? I can't really think of too much besides Disgaea 4 which is naturally gonna happen because of NISA pulling an Atlus more than anything.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Human Snorenado on December 13, 2013, 12:58:06 AM
Maybe it's just because 10+ years have passed, and Nintendo have released more installments in their tentpole franchises, but I just don't see Sega circa Dreamcast death having titles with the same clout as Mario, Zelda, or even Donkey Kong. What franchises did they have back then that had that sort of clout? Sonic? The 2k sports games? Waning interest in arcade type games helped kill Sega too.

But seriously... if Knack can sell 100k outside of bundles on PS4, how much would Mario 3D world do? Anyone wanna wager a guess?
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: cool breeze on December 13, 2013, 01:01:25 AM
was Sega that bad of a third party publisher during the PS2 generation sale-wise? 

they put out some great stuff during those initial few years
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Stoney Mason on December 13, 2013, 01:03:50 AM
Quote from: Creepy Old Guy on December 13, 2013, 12:58:06 AM
Maybe it's just because 10+ years have passed, and Nintendo have released more installments in their tentpole franchises, but I just don't see Sega circa Dreamcast death having titles with the same clout as Mario, Zelda, or even Donkey Kong. What franchises did they have back then that had that sort of clout? Sonic? The 2k sports games? Waning interest in arcade type games helped kill Sega too.

But seriously... if Knack can sell 100k outside of bundles on PS4, how much would Mario 3D world do? Anyone wanna wager a guess?

Mario would definitely do well or at least better than Sonic has simply because they are better and deeper games than Sonic ever was.

MarioKart and Zelda would probably do fine but I have a feeling they would do less than people expect and be less of a big deal once that system exclusive cache has been removed.

Smash Brothers would do fine.

The thing is while they have plenty of other franchises in addition to these like Animal Crossing, Donkey Kong Country, Metroid, Kirby etc those are the franchises that would become a lot less of a big deal no longer being exclusive.

It's like the way people always talked up Sega's rich history of ip's but beyond a really small niche group, nobody cares about Shinobi, Golden Axe, etc. You can maybe turn those into something if you own the platform and market them well but when you don't have the platform to push their importance, they kind of stop being important. They become just relics of a past age.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: hampster on December 13, 2013, 01:04:49 AM
Quote from: Bebpo on December 13, 2013, 12:30:02 AM
Now that I have an ipad I'm more open to the idea of Japan moving to mobile.  But when will we get a Bravely Default, good epic single player jrpg for mobile?

I'm hoping the PC kickstarter RPG scene can spill over to tablets since many of them would probably work well, I enjoy playing games on my tablet and hopefully games like x-com and shadowrun prove there is a market there. That doesn't address the jrpg situation obviously but its a start. I figure some niche devs in japan will eventually just start including mobile in their multiplatform handheld releases

Wasn't there an article the other day that Japan spends more on mobile that the US? God I hope they are ready for premium price points (outside SE's milk machine) and not just f2p stuff
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: bachikarn on December 13, 2013, 01:05:39 AM
Nintendo isn't making money of the Wii U right? Especially if you account for the R&D costs?

I'm basing this off nothing, but I just feel that if they were to drop out of making consoles, it'd be better for them to make console games as a third party than not make console games at all. I'm assuming the will be able to keep on trucking with handhelds.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Positive Touch on December 13, 2013, 01:05:55 AM
 :lol at sega first party having anything other than small niche appeal after the 90s

nintendo is getting trash sales right now because no one wants to invest in their shitty system. put new games on systems people want/own and they will sell again. they still have plenty of cultural cache. not saying a new metroid or animal crossing will light up the charts, but they could be modest success. hell, nintendos already got that "unambitious and cheap" low-risk mindset when it comes to development; they just need to follow thru with some titles. im sure theyll do it in the next few years as their current consoles become increasingly worthless.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Smooth Groove on December 13, 2013, 01:07:10 AM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on December 13, 2013, 12:52:52 AM
Quote from: Smooth Groove on December 13, 2013, 12:49:13 AM
:kobeyuck at Japanese gamers' tastes.  10x worse than dudebros.  Glad they're not driving the direction of mainstream gaming. 


yeah, me too, i've been looking forward to the market crash for too long to have it ruined by a sudden shift to a financially-sustainable model.

Isn't it relatively easy to keep making money off rehashes of sports, FPS, Ass Creed franchises?

I'd rather play those than what you said is popular in Japan. 

Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Smooth Groove on December 13, 2013, 01:10:37 AM
It costs that much to make a Madden?  Seems like all they do is just update the rosters every year and add some superficial tweaks. 
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Stoney Mason on December 13, 2013, 01:10:51 AM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on December 13, 2013, 01:06:44 AM
Sonic, 2K, Shenmue, Crazy Taxi, Virtua Fighter, etc would see a major uptick in sales.

They certainly had a rich history of arcade properties but unfortunately the arcade was dying/dead at that moment. And the console market was moving toward story driven cinematic games (Shemnue aside). How do you evolve Crazy Taxi when the market is completely moving away from the conditions that made something like Crazy Taxi possible? It was a painful problem they weren't able to solve without becoming something completely different now than what they were.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Smooth Groove on December 13, 2013, 01:14:32 AM
Also, PSX stole many of Sega's fans.  People probably didn't care that much about Sega IPs after not having played them for years. 

OTOH, N64 had some of the best selling games of all time. 
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Stoney Mason on December 13, 2013, 01:20:14 AM
Quote from: Smooth Groove on December 13, 2013, 01:14:32 AM
OTOH, N64 had some of the best selling games of all time.

One bit of irony I look towards is that Nintendo had the best console single player and multiplayer shooter of its era with Goldeneye.

And then they pissed it all away over the years and have become the console no hardcore shooter fan would ever purchase.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: hampster on December 13, 2013, 01:20:52 AM
Most 3rd party publishers seem pretty shitty so its reasonable to think if Nintendo became one they would probably become shitty too. In general, making good video games seems like a terrible way to create year over year shareholder growth. Anyway its a pointless discussion since I'm sure the egos are way too big at nintendo to ever drop console or handheld hardware. They'll cling to it to the bitter end
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Smooth Groove on December 13, 2013, 01:25:51 AM
Nintendo should just jump ship like they did with the Virtua Boy.  This is not really like a Saturn situation since Wii U is doing even worse.  Sure there will be some disgruntled fans but it would be worth it in the long term to have something that can compete with PS4/Xbone.  Maybe they could keep the tablet compatible just to appease the Wii U owners a little. 
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Himu on December 13, 2013, 01:26:13 AM
To be fair, VF4 DID see an uptick in sales, no? I never saw as many people caring about VF as I did when VF4 hit ps2.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Smooth Groove on December 13, 2013, 01:28:45 AM
Maybe in Japan but over here, I'm pretty sure that PS2 Tekken games were still killing VF. 
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Himu on December 13, 2013, 01:29:28 AM
No doubt it would be. But Oscar said uptick, as in, better than what they were before.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Smooth Groove on December 13, 2013, 01:31:34 AM
Kinda sad but I think VF would have done much better if they had ditched the no-frills fighting simulator approach. 
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Smooth Groove on December 13, 2013, 01:49:37 AM
Didn't all 3D fighting franchises drop in sales last gen?  If so, maybe VF5's decline wasn't that bad. 
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Himu on December 13, 2013, 01:55:04 AM
Well, no. VF4 EVO didn't do that great iirc.

Also, VF5 did poorly. SF4 created a new interest in fighting games and unfortunately VF5: FS was released on consoles right when that bubble just about burst.

And I'm surprised VF4 was outsold by 2. But 2 WAS a big deal back in the day - if you had a Saturn at least.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Smooth Groove on December 13, 2013, 02:08:29 AM
It's interesting how MK and Injustice were able to have some success the last few years even though MK and American fighters in general became irrelevant for years. 

Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on December 13, 2013, 02:09:51 AM
Nintendo is finally dead. Good job Nintendo.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on December 13, 2013, 02:41:07 AM
If Mario, zelda and pokemon dont chart... How much will bayonetta and x sale?

Im looking forward to picking up a wii u with a game in 2015 for 99 euro to play the one or two games I want.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cascade on December 13, 2013, 03:40:23 AM
Quote
Call of Duty: Ghosts platform split:
XBO - 6.42%
PS4 - 7.39%
360 - 55.45%
PS3 - 30.42%
Wii U - 0.33%

 :dead :deadpos :deadpos

I just don't understand. How?

 :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on December 13, 2013, 03:50:10 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/nEXCtBx.png)

:bow :bow2

Quote from: Borys on December 13, 2013, 03:35:38 AM
Nintendo is a toy company, they will do fine if they close the home console market and focus only on handhelds.

Hell, if they close handheld market as well they can make Pokemon toys.

This would actually be a great time for nintendo to grow, if they released pokemon on phones with some iap.

Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on December 13, 2013, 06:58:20 AM
Sega games werent big sellers before they went 3rd party.

At least I think I saw numbers and it was all in the 200/300k range (saturn and DC).
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on December 13, 2013, 07:22:23 AM
Nintendo is so fucked.  In the past, if they were in a corner, they'd just pump out Mario games to get them out of there.  It seems like we're hitting a point where Mario isn't enough and since Mario is the only trump card Nintendo has (or had), this is where things get really interesting.  Is Nintendo's solution to push out even more Mario games?  Wouldn't be surprised if we get Galaxy 3, Mario Sunshine HD, Paper Mario, Mario Kart 8, Mario Tennis, Mario Golf, Mario Basketball, Mario Soccer, and Mario Baseball in 2014 and 2015.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: magus on December 13, 2013, 08:38:33 AM
how does pokemon x/y compare to previous game? i always tought that was nintendo savior and i don't care about sales enough to understand if 400.000 copies between the two version is good or bad
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: MCD on December 13, 2013, 08:41:37 AM
Fastest selling console, bitches.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on December 13, 2013, 09:46:13 AM
Seriously? Good to hear <3

I did my part as far as the Saturn is concerned.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: AdmiralViscen on December 13, 2013, 10:27:20 AM
Quote from: Stoney Mason on December 13, 2013, 01:10:51 AM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on December 13, 2013, 01:06:44 AM
Sonic, 2K, Shenmue, Crazy Taxi, Virtua Fighter, etc would see a major uptick in sales.

They certainly had a rich history of arcade properties but unfortunately the arcade was dying/dead at that moment. And the console market was moving toward story driven cinematic games (Shemnue aside). How do you evolve Crazy Taxi when the market is completely moving away from the conditions that made something like Crazy Taxi possible? It was a painful problem they weren't able to solve without becoming something completely different now than what they were.

They were also a financial wreck, which Nintendo is not, or at least not yet.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: cool breeze on December 13, 2013, 10:36:42 AM
looking at the rest of the numbers, Killzone ended up as the best selling exclusive and at around what the last two PS3 games sold.  I hope they don't take it as a sign that people want more Killzone.  Dead Rising 3 is the best on Xbox One, which I was sure would be the best period.   

and I don't know how they'd measure it but I want to know how the next gen upgrade stuff went.  technically anyone who did it on the xbox would have been counted twice.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Brehvolution on December 13, 2013, 10:57:01 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/mErE3RK.png)
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Shaka Khan on December 13, 2013, 12:43:14 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on December 13, 2013, 08:52:42 AM

Quote from: Lagerless on December 13, 2013, 06:58:20 AM
Sega games werent big sellers before they went 3rd party.

At least I think I saw numbers and it was all in the 200/300k range (saturn and DC).

SEGA had a few first party million-sellers in NA alone on DC.  Most of their stuff sold between 300k and 600k in NA though, but seriously, they were moving like half a million units of stuff like Virtua Tennis and Bass Fishing.

Worldwide they had at least 15 million sellers on DC, with a few of them over 2 million.  They had a similar number worldwide on Saturn.  This revisionist history stuff is hilarious.  They were pretty much the #3 publisher in software sales when they checked out of the hardware business.

Schooled.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Himu on December 13, 2013, 02:10:32 PM
Quote from: Shaka Khan on December 13, 2013, 12:43:14 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on December 13, 2013, 08:52:42 AM

Quote from: Lagerless on December 13, 2013, 06:58:20 AM
Sega games werent big sellers before they went 3rd party.

At least I think I saw numbers and it was all in the 200/300k range (saturn and DC).

SEGA had a few first party million-sellers in NA alone on DC.  Most of their stuff sold between 300k and 600k in NA though, but seriously, they were moving like half a million units of stuff like Virtua Tennis and Bass Fishing.

Worldwide they had at least 15 million sellers on DC, with a few of them over 2 million.  They had a similar number worldwide on Saturn.  This revisionist history stuff is hilarious.  They were pretty much the #3 publisher in software sales when they checked out of the hardware business.

Schooled.

Dick sucked.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Shaka Khan on December 13, 2013, 02:33:00 PM
Jelly I don't suckle your clit, sis?
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Himu on December 13, 2013, 02:55:24 PM
Quote from: Shaka Khan on December 13, 2013, 02:33:00 PM
Jelly I don't suckle your clit, sis?

No. I just miss you. :(
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Bebpo on December 13, 2013, 05:30:47 PM
Killzone SF will have no legs considering it's fucking terrible.


Also it's crazy that SF sold in the hundreds of thousands considering there's like 2-3,000 players online.  Guessing most people bought it as the graphic showcase FPS, then they played it and it was terrible and it went on the shelf.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Smooth Groove on December 13, 2013, 06:25:46 PM
Killzone has never been particularly popular.

It's weird why Sony would spend so much effort and money on shoving it down gamers' throats.  Sony would probably be better off putting those resources into a new IP. 
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Smooth Groove on December 13, 2013, 06:27:22 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on December 13, 2013, 02:41:05 AM
Quote from: Smooth Groove on December 13, 2013, 02:08:29 AM
It's interesting how MK and Injustice were able to have some success the last few years even though MK and American fighters in general became irrelevant for years.

MK has literally never not sold well.  Yes, even when you thought it was selling badly, it was still moving more than SF4 ended up with.

Good catch.

I guess that's why gaming forums and podcasts really can't be trusted when it comes to judging commercial success.  It seemed like I've heard for a decade that MK was basically dead. 
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Mupepe on December 13, 2013, 06:59:21 PM
Oh god. That sub zero game was so bad ( I beat it :()
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Steve Contra on December 13, 2013, 07:30:49 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jsvfP5BQxaw
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: magus on December 13, 2013, 07:39:53 PM
ehy oscar i was hoping you would answer my pokeyman question :beli
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Tasty on December 13, 2013, 08:26:33 PM
:lol

Willing to bet 35% or more of Pokemans was digital.

Quote from: magus on December 13, 2013, 08:38:33 AM
how does pokemon x/y compare to previous game? i always tought that was nintendo savior and i don't care about sales enough to understand if 400.000 copies between the two version is good or bad

Previous game? Black 2/White 2? Not sure that's a good comparison. Are we comparing second months here? LTD by the second month? What?
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: magus on December 13, 2013, 08:30:46 PM
just how it did compared to other pokemon launches... for example i tought B/W was like 1 million?

Quote
In the US, Black and White sold more than 1.08 million copies on day one

wikipedia says so
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Tasty on December 13, 2013, 08:36:26 PM
X/Y sold 1.7 million units in the US in October. (http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/11/15/npd-gta-5-pokemon-top-us-sales) (Black/White sold 2.4 million copies in their first month in the US.)

Globally, X/Y sold 4 million copies in the first two days. (http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/10/15/pokemon-x-and-y-sales-figures-revealed)

Global LTD's:

Pokémon Diamond and Pearl:             17.57 million
Pokémon Platinum:                            7.43 million
Pokémon HeartGold and SoulSilver:    11.90 million
Pokémon Black and White:                 15.42 million
Pokémon Black 2 and White 2:            7.81 million

My butt feeling is that XY are currently at around 6 million WW right now.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: magus on December 13, 2013, 08:41:39 PM
ooohhh i see then i guess it doesn't really matter if they didn't chart on november uh....
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Tasty on December 13, 2013, 08:44:35 PM
At the very least, it's easily the fastest selling 3DS game worldwide to-date.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Takao on December 14, 2013, 02:29:41 AM
Quote from: Tasty Meat on December 13, 2013, 08:44:35 PM
At the very least, it's easily the fastest selling 3DS game worldwide to-date.

I thought you stan for Google and Nintendo, why are you trying to apply for a job at Microsoft?
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Tasty on December 14, 2013, 04:22:45 AM
:what
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on December 14, 2013, 05:52:04 AM
I think he is referring to "fastest selling console" MS PR.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Tasty on December 14, 2013, 02:12:15 PM
Oh, I don't read MS PR shyt.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on December 14, 2013, 02:17:37 PM
Oscar how much did GOW3 sell?
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on December 16, 2013, 05:19:24 PM
(http://imageshack.us/a/img4/442/xvyx.jpg)
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Rufus on December 16, 2013, 05:53:48 PM
:holeup

Christmas is going to be interesting.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Shaka Khan on December 16, 2013, 06:00:01 PM
Horrible. But to be fair, it surpassed the DC in Nov.

(But not by much lol)
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Raban on December 16, 2013, 08:02:01 PM
Is it possible to add the Virtual Boy to that chart? At this point, it's probably more appropriate to compare the WiiU to that as opposed to consoles that actually moved units.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Shaka Khan on December 16, 2013, 08:05:14 PM
I'm sure if we factor inflation, we'll discover the Virtual Boy actually earned more revenues and caused less losses. :hitler
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Himu on December 16, 2013, 08:20:27 PM
I don't remember vb lasting even a year.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: archie4208 on December 18, 2013, 05:40:31 AM
DayZ sold 172k copies in its first 24 hours. (http://maruksp.tumblr.com/post/70324805302/first-day-of-dayz-alpha-hours-passed-24)

RIP in peace PC gaming.  :'(
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: archnemesis on December 18, 2013, 06:03:31 AM
It's an alpha and it's not on sale. I might buy it in 6-12 months.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on December 18, 2013, 06:51:54 AM
Apparently 92% of the revenue from the App store is from IAP

you know what this means  :'(
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on December 18, 2013, 08:15:52 AM
I means that people think that games are supposed to be free.

Why pay when you can download everything for free.

/anecdotal evidence

Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: archnemesis on December 18, 2013, 08:24:07 AM
It means I probably won't buy any other iOS game next year besides DQ1.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on December 18, 2013, 08:28:06 AM
Japan news
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Media Create Sales: Week 50, 2013 (Dec 09 - Dec 15)

01./00. [3DS] PazuDora Z: Puzzle & Dragons Z <RPG> (GungHo Online Entertainment) {2013.12.12} (¥4.400) - 543.630 / NEW
02./03. [3DS] Pokemon X / Y # <RPG> (Pokemon Co.) {2013.10.12} (¥4.800) - 159.244 / 3.360.163 (+42%)
03./07. [WIU] Super Mario 3D World <ACT> (Nintendo) {2013.11.21} (¥5.985) - 57.862 / 241.107 (+32%)
04./00. [PS3] Nobunaga's Ambition: Creativity # <SLG> (Koei Tecmo) {2013.12.12} (¥9.240) - 54.590 / NEW
05./04. [3DS] Attack on Titan: The Last Wings of Mankind <ACT> (Spike Chunsoft) {2013.12.05} (¥6.090) - 42.311 / 135.782 (-55%)
06./00. [PS3] Call of Duty: Ghosts - Dubbed Edition <ACT> (Square Enix) {2013.12.12} (¥7.980) - 37.519 / NEW
07./01. [PS3] Gran Turismo 6 # <RCE> (Sony Computer Entertainment) {2013.12.05} (¥6.980) - 37.306 / 242.090 (-82%)
08./05. [3DS] Inazuma Eleven Go Galaxy: Big Bang / Supernova <RPG> (Level 5) {2013.12.05} (¥5.500) - 30.517 / 122.160 (-67%)
09./11. [3DS] Monster Hunter 4 # <ACT> (Capcom) {2013.09.14} (¥5.990) - 27.921 / 3.030.279 (+36%)
10./16. [3DS] Animal Crossing: New Leaf # <ETC> (Nintendo) {2012.11.08} (¥4.800) - 26.409 / 3.522.987 (+76%)
11./17. [3DS] Friend Collection: New Life # <ETC> (Nintendo) {2013.04.18} (¥4.800) - 22.189 / 1.545.717 (+73%)
12./18. [3DS] Aikatsu! 2-nin no My Princess <SLG> (Bandai Namco Games) {2013.11.21} (¥5.480) - 18.415 / 117.675 (+45%)
13./15. [3DS] One Piece: Unlimited World Red # <ADV> (Bandai Namco Games) {2013.11.21} (¥5.980) - 17.906 / 141.280 (+18%)
14./00. [PS3] Dishonored: Game of the Year Edition <RPG> (Bethesda Softworks) {2013.12.12} (¥3.990) - 17.628 / 350.022
15./27. [3DS] New Super Mario Bros. 2 # <ACT> (Nintendo) {2012.07.28} (¥4.800) - 15.128 / 2.158.254
16./14. [PS3] World Soccer Winning Eleven 2014 <SPT> (Konami) {2013.11.14} (¥7.980) - 15.058 / 243.425 (-3%)
17./29. [3DS] Luigi's Mansion: Dark Moon <ACT> (Nintendo) {2013.03.20} (¥4.800) - 15.051 / 958.510
18./10. [PS3] Lightning Returns: Final Fantasy XIII <RPG> (Square Enix) {2013.11.21} (¥7.770) - 14.837 / 373.592 (-31%)
19./12. [3DS] Hatsune Miku: Project Mirai 2 # <ACT> (Sega) {2013.11.28} (¥6.279) - 14.566 / 121.499 (-20%)
20./25. [WIU] Taiko no Tatsujin: Wii U Version! # <ACT> (Bandai Namco Games) {2013.11.21} (¥5.480) - 13.980 / 51.436
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3DS LL   130,710
Wii U   74,903
3DS   50,846
Vita   30,440
PS3   23,959
PSP   6,475
Vita TV   5,506
Wii   1,197
Xbox 360   536
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Great Rumbler on December 18, 2013, 08:42:59 AM
Dishonored sold 350k in Japan? Nice.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Brehvolution on December 18, 2013, 09:06:24 AM
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01./00. [3DS] PazuDora Z: Puzzle & Dragons Z <RPG> (GungHo Online Entertainment)

Poor Fragamemnon :fbm
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Tasty on December 18, 2013, 10:31:39 AM
Mario not doing too bad all things considered. Wii U pretty well too.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Bebpo on December 18, 2013, 03:51:19 PM
Holy fucking shit at Puzzles & Dragons.


Yep, Japan gaming has moved to the mobile.  Those are insane numbers that almost no games on the planet sees outside Pokemon and a few others.  I fully expect everyone to go mobile and then port the bigger selling games to 3DS and its successor for the next 10 years.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: bork on December 18, 2013, 03:55:18 PM
Quote from: Bebpo on December 18, 2013, 03:51:19 PM
Holy fucking shit at Puzzles & Dragons.


Yep, Japan gaming has moved to the mobile.  Those are insane numbers that almost no games on the planet sees outside Pokemon and a few others.  I fully expect everyone to go mobile and then port the bigger selling games to 3DS and its successor for the next 10 years.

Haven't the charts been dominated by DS, PSP (Monster Hunter), and 3DS for like 10 years already?
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: magus on December 18, 2013, 04:27:36 PM
Quote from: Bebpo on December 18, 2013, 03:51:19 PM
Holy fucking shit at Puzzles & Dragons.


Yep, Japan gaming has moved to the mobile.  Those are insane numbers that almost no games on the planet sees outside Pokemon and a few others.  I fully expect everyone to go mobile and then port the bigger selling games to 3DS and its successor for the next 10 years.

i told you to play the game and you still haven't done it :beli

to be honest i'm kinda disappointed to see it doing only half a million,i was hoping it would sell like MH4 and pokemon
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on December 18, 2013, 04:30:56 PM
Quote from: magus on December 18, 2013, 04:27:36 PM
Quote from: Bebpo on December 18, 2013, 03:51:19 PM
Holy fucking shit at Puzzles & Dragons.


Yep, Japan gaming has moved to the mobile.  Those are insane numbers that almost no games on the planet sees outside Pokemon and a few others.  I fully expect everyone to go mobile and then port the bigger selling games to 3DS and its successor for the next 10 years.

i told you to play the game and you still haven't done it :beli

to be honest i'm kinda disappointed to see it doing only half a million,i was hoping it would sell like MH4 and pokemon

Its cause everyone is playing it on mobile, handhelds are getting obsolete even in Japan.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: chronovore on December 22, 2013, 12:47:03 AM
Quote from: Lagerless on December 13, 2013, 03:50:10 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/nEXCtBx.png)

:bow :bow2

Quote from: Borys on December 13, 2013, 03:35:38 AM
Nintendo is a toy company, they will do fine if they close the home console market and focus only on handhelds.

Hell, if they close handheld market as well they can make Pokemon toys.

This would actually be a great time for nintendo to grow, if they released pokemon on phones with some iap.

Kosma, sometimes it's hard to tell if you're trolling, or just willingly exposing ignorance.

Nintendo and Apple are basically hardware vendors with desirable software. Apple licensed MacOS for Mac compatible computers for a couple years; it hurt them. Nintendo basically created the original PlayStation with Sony, and then backed out at the last possible minute to avoid losing any of their exclusive rights by sharing hardware with another manufacturer. Nintendo is never going to put their software on anyone else's hardware.

Ever.
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Everrrrrr.
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Quote from: Lagerless on December 18, 2013, 04:30:56 PM
Its cause everyone is playing it on mobile, handhelds are getting obsolete even in Japan.

See, like this!
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on December 22, 2013, 01:51:27 PM
Is it ignorant of me to think Nintendo would make more money with pokemon on mobile or arrogant of Nintendo not to do it?

:yeshrug

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The Mobile games category was the big winner with $266 million, up 14 percent over last month and 52 percent over last year. Mobile publisher King has filed for an initial public offering and added Pet Rescue Saga to its list of top-grossing games on iOS. Pet Rescue Saga generated $360,000 per day, while Candy Crush Saga brought in $850,000 per day.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Tasty on December 22, 2013, 07:15:51 PM
Probably. Pokemon regularly sells 5-10 million each game at $40 a pop. Even the most lucrative IAP pap is chump change in comparison.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: The Sceneman on December 22, 2013, 09:34:07 PM
Uh, at it's heyday Clash of Clans was collecting $2.5 million a day... chump change my ass
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Damian79 on December 22, 2013, 09:39:05 PM
What they should do is sell pokemon on the ios and charge money for each pokemon if they dont want to get it the normal way.  They would make more money than selling pokemon on the 3ds.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Great Rumbler on December 22, 2013, 09:47:51 PM
I don't understand Candy Crush.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Positive Touch on December 22, 2013, 09:49:13 PM
candy crush is a pretty fun game
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Tasty on December 22, 2013, 09:59:54 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on December 22, 2013, 09:33:45 PM
Quote from: Tasty Meat on December 22, 2013, 07:15:51 PM
Probably. Pokemon regularly sells 5-10 million each game at $40 a pop. Even the most lucrative IAP pap is chump change in comparison.

Actually, Candy Crush is probably closing in on the low end of Pokemon software profits, I'd think.  It's been out a year, so if it's averaging $850,000 per day, that's over $300 mill.  Nintendo doesn't get the full $40 of each Pokemon sold, so they probably haven't pulled much more than that with recent Pokemon games.  I suspect Candy Crush is nowhere near finished its reign of terror either, so it'll probably end up making more money than the recent Pokemon releases quite handily.

But that's neither here nor there.  Pointing to Candy Crush Saga and saying "Look!  It's so simple, just do that!" is like pointing at GTA5, Call of Duty, or hell, even Pokemon itself and saying the same.  Markets shouldn't be judged by the outliers.  It's possible Nintendo could make more money on mobile, but it's equally possible that they wouldn't, I feel.  The mobile market is a very different animal from the traditional console business, which is why the old Japanese game companies are having so much trouble cracking it, while upstarts are making money hand over fist.

I doubt it was making anywhere near $850k/day for a while after it came out, though.

My overall point is that Nintendo can still price at $40 games and sell millions of copies. No single iOS/Android game dev is afforded that luxury, and so the most lucrative games on those platforms are an IAP+spam sandwich of fail and negative psychological exploitation. It's very reminiscent of the Facebook game fad, although thankfully that didn't have any staying power. We can only hope the same is true of "free*" games on iOS and Android, otherwise, pop pop pop.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Great Rumbler on December 22, 2013, 10:20:38 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on December 22, 2013, 10:17:24 PM
All video games are psychological exploitation, Andy, and there's no such thing as positive exploitation. :wag

IAP is still the spawn of Satan, though.
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Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on December 22, 2013, 10:21:25 PM
Puzzle and Dragon makes $100 million in profit per month.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: The Sceneman on December 22, 2013, 10:27:28 PM
Yeah, but Pokemon games sell 5-10 million copies. PAD's IAP revenue is chump change in comparison.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Tasty on December 22, 2013, 10:46:31 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on December 22, 2013, 10:17:24 PM
All video games are psychological exploitation, Andy, and there's no such thing as positive exploitation. :wag

I worked at a company that used the term "wales" in regular feature planning meetings. Games can definitely exploit people in an aggressive way, something you yourself have warned against on this very forum so I don't know why you're finger wagging me except to try and rake in likes.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Raban on December 22, 2013, 11:01:52 PM
Quote from: Tasty Meat on December 22, 2013, 10:46:31 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on December 22, 2013, 10:17:24 PM
All video games are psychological exploitation, Andy, and there's no such thing as positive exploitation. :wag

I worked at a company that used the term "wales" in regular feature planning meetings. Games can definitely exploit people in an aggressive way, something you yourself have warned against on this very forum so I don't know why you're finger wagging me except to try and rake in likes.
:what :neogaf
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Tasty on December 22, 2013, 11:32:35 PM
Don't be embarrassed Oscar, I do it too. :fbm
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Van Cruncheon on December 23, 2013, 12:00:31 AM
it's "whales" you poultroon
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: The Sceneman on December 23, 2013, 12:07:32 AM
 :whoo
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Tasty on December 23, 2013, 12:11:20 AM
That post is gonna get so many likes. :fbm
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Tasty on December 23, 2013, 12:14:36 AM
Also, I get that by nature game design is meant to be addictive. It's a positive feedback loop. But there's a difference between paying once and playing an addictive game, and playing an addictive game that incentivizes you to keep paying.

And I know you've agreed with that before so you're probably doing your contrarian thing again, so go right ahead, I know you agree anyways.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Purple Filth on December 23, 2013, 12:17:51 AM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on December 23, 2013, 12:04:14 AM
Oh, and farming for Likes by backing Candy Crush on a traditional gaming message board?  That's the kind of plan I'd expect a Nintendo/Google fan to come up with: a loser plan.

And Oscar comes out swinging once again.


Also my mom actually told me about the existence of Candy Crush since she's been playing it alot  :'(
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: tiesto on December 23, 2013, 12:48:10 AM
My girlfriend is a Candy Crush addict  :-\ seems to me the whole game is nothing more than Bejeweled with IAP up the ass (luckily my gf doesn't fall into the IAP trap).
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: pilonv1 on December 23, 2013, 12:55:19 AM
Quote from: tiesto on December 23, 2013, 12:48:10 AM
My girlfriend is a Candy Crush addict  :-\

Sounds like she has more long term potential than the Mass Effect fan
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Human Snorenado on December 23, 2013, 12:56:04 AM
If you think video games are bad, TCGs (trading card games, like Magic or... Pokemans) are the WORST. It's basically socially acceptable scratch off tickets for minors- every 8th pack has a mythic rare or whatever they're called in it!  Just buy 8 packs! Better yet, just buy a box and get 4 of em...
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on December 23, 2013, 05:57:48 AM
Its really suprising they havent been banned yet in some countries.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on December 23, 2013, 06:02:18 AM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on December 22, 2013, 09:33:45 PM
But that's neither here nor there.  Pointing to Candy Crush Saga and saying "Look!  It's so simple, just do that!" is like pointing at GTA5, Call of Duty, or hell, even Pokemon itself and saying the same.  Markets shouldn't be judged by the outliers.  It's possible Nintendo could make more money on mobile, but it's equally possible that they wouldn't, I feel.  The mobile market is a very different animal from the traditional console business, which is why the old Japanese game companies are having so much trouble cracking it, while upstarts are making money hand over fist.

Sure its not certain but im sure they could leverage a lot of their fans.

They could also offer it next to their handheld pokemons and see how the split looks.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: archie4208 on December 23, 2013, 06:14:29 AM
Quote from: Creepy Old Guy on December 23, 2013, 12:56:04 AM
If you think video games are bad, TCGs (trading card games, like Magic or... Pokemans) are the WORST. It's basically socially acceptable scratch off tickets for minors- every 8th pack has a mythic rare or whatever they're called in it!  Just buy 8 packs! Better yet, just buy a box and get 4 of em...

Hey you just described every recent Valve game.

"Spend $2.50 to open this chest!  There's a 99.9% chance you'll get worthless junk, but what if you do hit the $5000 jackpot?"

Thankfully those games deal solely in cosmetics that don't affect gameplay.

Quote from: Lagerless on December 23, 2013, 05:57:48 AM
Its really suprising they havent been banned yet in some countries.

The Chinese version of Dota 2 banned the gacha key and chest system.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on December 23, 2013, 06:29:06 AM
Whats Haram?

I dont think its a stretch to say this is worse then actual gambling, cause in gambling you can win money. Kids growing up with iap and these kind of chests will have their tiny brain wired forever.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Damian79 on December 23, 2013, 07:28:36 AM
Quote from: Lagerless on December 23, 2013, 06:02:18 AM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on December 22, 2013, 09:33:45 PM
But that's neither here nor there.  Pointing to Candy Crush Saga and saying "Look!  It's so simple, just do that!" is like pointing at GTA5, Call of Duty, or hell, even Pokemon itself and saying the same.  Markets shouldn't be judged by the outliers.  It's possible Nintendo could make more money on mobile, but it's equally possible that they wouldn't, I feel.  The mobile market is a very different animal from the traditional console business, which is why the old Japanese game companies are having so much trouble cracking it, while upstarts are making money hand over fist.

Sure its not certain but im sure they could leverage a lot of their fans.

They could also offer it next to their handheld pokemons and see how the split looks.

I am not sure there are any real pokemon fans out there.  It is a gift giving game.  People buy pokemon for their kids or relatives.  You lose interest in pokemon after the second version you play of it because they are the same exact game gameplay wise for the most part.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Tasty on December 23, 2013, 08:42:46 AM
Quote from: Exodust SoulBurn on December 23, 2013, 07:29:55 AM
There's a huge Pokemon following not limited to children out there. I wouldn't have believed that myself but jesus christ I've seen it.

:jawalrus
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Rufus on December 23, 2013, 09:59:25 AM
Quote from: Exodust SoulBurn on December 23, 2013, 07:29:55 AM
There's a huge Pokemon following not limited to children out there. I wouldn't have believed that myself but jesus christ I've seen it.
(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f278/katietiedrich/comic146.png)
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: tiesto on December 23, 2013, 01:20:44 PM
Quote from: pilonv1 on December 23, 2013, 12:55:19 AM
Quote from: tiesto on December 23, 2013, 12:48:10 AM
My girlfriend is a Candy Crush addict  :-\

Sounds like she has more long term potential than the Mass Effect fan

Well, she's not a crazy libertarian, so that's a start! :P
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Tasty on December 23, 2013, 03:19:06 PM
Man you shoulda seen my college when Soul Silver came out, it was exactly like that last panel. Looked like everyone had a Pokewalker for like two weeks.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Tasty on December 23, 2013, 03:23:27 PM
(Remakes of Gold/Silver specifically are probably a special case though. I doubt such a situation would occur again.)
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Great Rumbler on December 23, 2013, 03:26:52 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/nXLCL1H.png)
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Tasty on December 23, 2013, 03:43:51 PM
Actually I had no real friends during my two years at college, lol. Was just an observation. Actually, I think only two of my friends picked the remakes up.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Rufus on December 23, 2013, 03:49:22 PM
Quote from: Esch on December 23, 2013, 02:30:29 PM
Quote from: Rufus on December 23, 2013, 09:59:25 AM
Quote from: Exodust SoulBurn on December 23, 2013, 07:29:55 AM
There's a huge Pokemon following not limited to children out there. I wouldn't have believed that myself but jesus christ I've seen it.
(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/fng)

:sabu this picture is pathetic. It isn't like everyone starts playing Pokemon like you're in second grade again. It's that there are enough neckbeards around to play Pokemon with and the jocks are too busy fratting it up to make fun of them like they used to.
Yup.

Side note: did we honestly kill that picture? :derp I should have re-hosted it on Imgur...
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: cool breeze on December 23, 2013, 03:57:29 PM
Quote from: Esch on December 23, 2013, 02:30:29 PM
:sabu this picture is pathetic. It isn't like everyone starts playing Pokemon like you're in second grade again. It's that there are enough neckbeards around to play Pokemon with and the jocks are too busy fratting it up to make fun of them like they used to.

fratting it up occasionally meant playing mario kart 64  :miyamoto
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Rufus on December 23, 2013, 04:26:29 PM
Quote from: Esch on December 23, 2013, 03:56:30 PM
idk i didnt quote it cause the art was so annoying though  :lol
Oh, I see. I thought we had somehow sucked up all her bandwidth. I didn't scroll up back to my post to check.

Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on December 24, 2013, 06:35:14 AM
http://blog.es.playstation.com/2013/...nos-de-un-mes/

PS4-XBOne ratio in Spain 4.8:1
~28k XBone in Spain.

December 10th was 80k PS4 and 23k XBOne

54k PS4 sold in ~12 days
5k XBOne sold in ~ 12 days.
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Post by: Cerveza mas fina on December 24, 2013, 06:39:23 AM
Seems ratio would be higher if PS4 wasnt supply constrained
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: tiesto on December 24, 2013, 11:21:32 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zvTRQr7ns8
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on December 25, 2013, 09:03:41 AM
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Media Create Sales: Week 51, 2013 (Dec 16 - Dec 22)

01./01. [3DS] PazuDora Z: Puzzle & Dragons Z <RPG> (GungHo Online Entertainment) {2013.12.12} (¥4.400) - 256.373 / 800.003 (-53%)
02./02. [3DS] Pokemon X / Y # <RPG> (Pokemon Co.) {2013.10.12} (¥4.800) - 212.666 / 3.572.829 (+34%)
03./00. [PS3] New Dynasty Warriors: Gundam <ACT> (Bandai Namco Games) {2013.12.19} (¥7.980) - 126.019 / NEW
04./00. [PS3] Drakengard 3 <RPG> (Square Enix) {2013.12.19} (¥7.980) - 114.024 / NEW
05./03. [WIU] Super Mario 3D World <ACT> (Nintendo) {2013.11.21} (¥5.985) - 86.408 / 327.514 (+49%)
06./00. [PSV] New Dynasty Warriors: Gundam <ACT> (Bandai Namco Games) {2013.12.19} (¥6.980) - 52.667 / NEW
07./10. [3DS] Animal Crossing: New Leaf # <ETC> (Nintendo) {2012.11.08} (¥4.800) - 41.137 / 3.564.124 (+56%)
08./11. [3DS] Friend Collection: New Life # <ETC> (Nintendo) {2013.04.18} (¥4.800) - 38.405 / 1.584.122 (+73%)
09./09. [3DS] Monster Hunter 4 # <ACT> (Capcom) {2013.09.14} (¥5.990) - 37.034 / 3.067.313 (+33%)
10./08. [3DS] Inazuma Eleven Go Galaxy: Big Bang / Supernova <RPG> (Level 5) {2013.12.05} (¥5.500) - 33.328 / 155.488 (+9%)
11./05. [3DS] Attack on Titan: The Last Wings of Mankind <ACT> (Spike Chunsoft) {2013.12.05} (¥6.090) - 30.363 / 166.145 (-28%)
12./12. [3DS] Aikatsu! 2-nin no My Princess <SLG> (Bandai Namco Games) {2013.11.21} (¥5.480) - 29.223 / 146.898 (+59%)
13./14. [3DS] Disney Magic Castle: My Happy Life # <ETC> (Bandai Namco Games) {2013.08.01} (¥5.480) - 28.562 / 378.584 (+62%)
14./13. [3DS] One Piece: Unlimited World Red # <ADV> (Bandai Namco Games) {2013.11.21} (¥5.980) - 28.108 / 169.388 (+57%)
15./17. [3DS] Luigi's Mansion: Dark Moon <ACT> (Nintendo) {2013.03.20} (¥4.800) - 26.931 / 985.442 (+79%)
16./00. [PSV] Gekijouban Puella Magi Madoka Magica: The Battle Pentagram # <RPG> (Bandai Namco Games) {2013.12.19} (¥5.980) - 26.363 / NEW
17./21. [3DS] Mario Kart 7 <RCE> (Nintendo) {2011.12.01} (¥4.800) - 25.082 / 2.205.807
18./22. [3DS] Battle For Money Sentouchuu: Densetsu no Shinobi no Survival Battle! <ACT> (Bandai Namco Games) {2013.10.17} (¥4.980) - 24.842 / 158.239
19./15. [3DS] New Super Mario Bros. 2 # <ACT> (Nintendo) {2012.07.28} (¥4.800) - 24.154 / 2.182.408 (+60%)
20./23. [WIU] Wii Party U <ETC> (Nintendo) {2013.10.31} (¥4.935) - 23.972 / 119.100


(http://abload.de/img/japansalesweek512013ehs1r.png)

WiiU YTD>PS3 YTD

Nintendo  :bow2

Sony  :piss2
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: DCharlieJP on December 25, 2013, 01:29:41 PM
three weeks of good xmas sales and apparently the WiiU is in BEAST MODE?

jesus.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Shaka Khan on December 25, 2013, 02:11:30 PM
DC getting all sweaty :omg
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: MCD on December 25, 2013, 02:58:59 PM
Good news for the industry.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: DCharlieJP on December 25, 2013, 11:37:17 PM
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It's so weird how often DC replies on the Bore to people who aren't here.  Keep it in the GAF thread!

No! ;)

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I expect the air will come out completely once the holidays are up. 


I certainly don't expect a sustained recovery - just looks like little choice as you say: 3DS still did well but a lot of people already have it, and the WiiU has a banner title in Mario. But once we get into the new year? Sales are going to come crashing down across the board. God help PS4 and all who sail in her.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on December 30, 2013, 09:05:13 AM
Some snippets from the UK.

Seems PS4 is off to a better start then the Xbone.

04 (02) 360 FIFA 14 (ELECTRONIC ARTS)
 05 (05) PS4 FIFA 14 (ELECTRONIC ARTS)
 12 (09) PS3 FIFA 14 (ELECTRONIC ARTS)
 15 (16) XBO FIFA 14 (ELECTRONIC ARTS)
 
01 (01) 360 CALL OF DUTY: GHOSTS (ACTIVISION BLIZZARD)
 10 (08) PS3 CALL OF DUTY: GHOSTS (ACTIVISION BLIZZARD)
 14 (15) PS4 CALL OF DUTY: GHOSTS (ACTIVISION BLIZZARD)
 18 (18) XBO CALL OF DUTY: GHOSTS (ACTIVISION BLIZZARD)
 
02 (03) 360 ASSASSIN'S CREED IV: BLACK FLAG (UBISOFT)
 07 (12) PS3 ASSASSIN'S CREED IV: BLACK FLAG (UBISOFT)
 24 (22) PS4 ASSASSIN'S CREED IV: BLACK FLAG (UBISOFT)
 39 (__) XBO ASSASSIN'S CREED IV: BLACK FLAG (UBISOFT)
 
09 (13) 360 BATTLEFIELD 4 (ELECTRONIC ARTS)
 17 (19) PS4 BATTLEFIELD 4 (ELECTRONIC ARTS)
 19 (28) XBO BATTLEFIELD 4 (ELECTRONIC ARTS)
 22 (21) PS3 BATTLEFIELD 4 (ELECTRONIC ARTS)
 
16 (20) 360 NEED FOR SPEED: RIVALS (ELECTRONIC ARTS)
 25 (25) PS3 NEED FOR SPEED: RIVALS (ELECTRONIC ARTS)
 29 (29) PS4 NEED FOR SPEED: RIVALS (ELECTRONIC ARTS)
 >40 (__) XBO NEED FOR SPEED: RIVALS (ELECTRONIC ARTS)
 
20 (14) 360 LEGO MARVEL SUPER HEROES (WARNER BROS. INTERACTIVE)
 37 (39) PS4 LEGO MARVEL SUPER HEROES (WARNER BROS. INTERACTIVE)
 38 (23) PS3 LEGO MARVEL SUPER HEROES (WARNER BROS. INTERACTIVE)
 >40 (__) XBO LEGO MARVEL SUPER HEROES (WARNER BROS. INTERACTIVE)
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on December 30, 2013, 10:38:22 AM
fumes
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Takao on December 30, 2013, 02:45:12 PM
i can't wait for knack sports, racing with knack, knack rpg, knack fps, and knack for fighting
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Phoenix Dark on December 30, 2013, 02:52:29 PM
can't wait for Knack & Jak and Daxter :rejoice
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: cool breeze on December 30, 2013, 03:13:03 PM
i hope when knack 2 happens it's outsourced to spark unlimited or nintendo or some third party.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on December 30, 2013, 04:47:26 PM
I cant wait to buy Knack for 5 euro in a year or so (or get it on ps+)
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on January 01, 2014, 08:24:27 AM
Quote from: Lagerless on December 30, 2013, 10:38:22 AM
The whole console industry is running on fumes now.
Fixed.


Hardware records broken left and right and no mention of (next gen)software...things must be pretty dire

Latest UK hardware data puts PS4 at 530k and Xbone at 364k.That is 900k pieces of new hardware within a month and yet 8 years old console has no trouble selling more software.

Apologists are already out

but digital
but people have no money for games right now cuz next gen consoles are very expensive,please wait
next gen has no games
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: DCharlieJP on January 01, 2014, 08:51:00 AM
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That is 900k pieces of new hardware within a month and yet 8 years old console has no trouble selling more software.

i am often baffled by this logic - an 8 year old console with a vastly bigger userbase has no trouble outselling, software wise, two new platforms that have a much smaller userbase.... why is this such a mystery?

Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Human Snorenado on January 01, 2014, 09:15:25 AM
Quote from: DCharlieJP on January 01, 2014, 08:51:00 AM
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That is 900k pieces of new hardware within a month and yet 8 years old console has no trouble selling more software.

i am often baffled by this logic - an 8 year old console with a vastly bigger userbase has no trouble outselling, software wise, two new platforms that have a much smaller userbase.... why is this such a mystery?

MATHS IS HARD
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on January 01, 2014, 09:43:41 AM
Quote from: DCharlieJP on January 01, 2014, 08:51:00 AM
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That is 900k pieces of new hardware within a month and yet 8 years old console has no trouble selling more software.

i am often baffled by this logic - an 8 year old console with a vastly bigger userbase has no trouble outselling, software wise, two new platforms that have a much smaller userbase.... why is this such a mystery?

Simple.

360 software sales have dropped hard over the past few years,literally 50% overnight in UK and that happened years ago.Being outsold by 360 is nothing to be proud about,certainly not with record breaking next gen hardware sales.

360 has been a disaster last year...except for GTA5,but that tells were this industry is going

What happens when record breaking hardware sales stop,what then?

Quote from: Creepy Old Guy on January 01, 2014, 09:15:25 AM
Quote from: DCharlieJP on January 01, 2014, 08:51:00 AM
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That is 900k pieces of new hardware within a month and yet 8 years old console has no trouble selling more software.

i am often baffled by this logic - an 8 year old console with a vastly bigger userbase has no trouble outselling, software wise, two new platforms that have a much smaller userbase.... why is this such a mystery?

MATHS IS HARD

Nah,MATH is a beautiful beautiful  science.But MATH is not about numbers,numbers are just...numbers

360 is like 8.5+ million sold in UK,no doubt.But that certainly didn't do much for its software sales for quite some time.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Great Rumbler on January 01, 2014, 10:19:13 AM
ANECDOTAL EVIDENCE INCOMING:

My local Best Buy was almost cleaned out of PS4 games [still had about 20 copies of Killzone left, but that was it], still a lot of Xbone games, though.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Rahxephon91 on January 01, 2014, 02:57:37 PM
Quote from: Great Rumbler on January 01, 2014, 10:19:13 AM
ANECDOTAL EVIDENCE INCOMING:

My local Best Buy was almost cleaned out of PS4 games [still had about 20 copies of Killzone left, but that was it], still a lot of Xbone games, though.
Same with my best buy. Tons and tons of Call of Duty Xbone versions.

No 360 CoDs though in the whole Chicago South Suburb Best Buys. At least as far as last weekend was concerned.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: pilonv1 on January 01, 2014, 05:28:22 PM
Quote from: DCharlieJP on January 01, 2014, 08:51:00 AM
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That is 900k pieces of new hardware within a month and yet 8 years old console has no trouble selling more software.

i am often baffled by this logic - an 8 year old console with a vastly bigger userbase has no trouble outselling, software wise, two new platforms that have a much smaller userbase.... why is this such a mystery?



If people saw how software grows in comparison to hardware over time they wouldn't ask this. But they only see or care about week/month one.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Great Rumbler on January 01, 2014, 06:46:46 PM
The Wii U would have to actually be pushing hardware units in order for that argument to hold any water at all. But it isn't.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Shaka Khan on January 01, 2014, 06:57:13 PM
Somebody didn't check the last 2 Media Create threads.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Great Rumbler on January 01, 2014, 07:00:25 PM
Quote from: Shaka Khan on January 01, 2014, 06:57:13 PM
Somebody didn't check the last 2 Media Create threads.

:hitler
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: magus on January 01, 2014, 07:08:19 PM
now that the year of luigi is over so are the sales of wii u... unless... what if we had a year of cranky? that might be crazy enough to work!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on January 01, 2014, 07:09:41 PM
ya year of cranky gamers wishing they bought a ps4 instead to experience real next gen
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Great Rumbler on January 01, 2014, 07:24:27 PM
The Wii U can't even move more units than unestablished infants like the PS4 and Xbone.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Great Rumbler on January 01, 2014, 07:29:35 PM
:yeshrug
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on January 01, 2014, 07:59:36 PM
Some UK numbers

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2013: http://www.mcvuk.com/news/read/gta-v...o-no-5/0126323
Grand Theft Auto V (Video Game) – Rockstar – 3,670,234
FIFA 14 (Video Game) – EA – 2,656,763
Call Of Duty: Ghosts (Video Game) – Activision Blizzard – 1,991,994
Battlefield 4 (Video Game) – Electronic Arts – 838,869
Assassin's Creed IV: Black Flag (Video Game) – Ubisoft – 776,888

2012: http://www.mcvuk.com/news/read/call-...buster/0112263
Call of Duty: Black Ops II, Activision Blizzard –––– 2,672,364
FIFA 13, Electronic Arts –––– 2,601,877
Assassin's Creed III, Ubisoft ––– 886,198
Halo 4, Microsoft ––– 753,489
Hitman Absolution, Square Enix –––– 571,248
Just Dance 4, Ubisoft –––– 562,453
Far Cry 3, Ubisoft -––– 540,237

2011: http://www.mcvuk.com/news/read/adele...roperty/089677
Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3 - 2,814,609
FIFA 12 - 2,193,302
Battlefield 3 - 1,186,895
Zumba Fitness - 1,077,508
The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim - 1,024,228
Just Dance 3 - 820,333
Assassin’s Creed: Revelations - 732,566

2010
Call of Duty: Black Ops [Activision Blizzard] – 3,266,298
FIFA 11 [Electronic Arts] – 2,390,231
Just Dance [Ubisoft] – 1,305,338
Red Dead Redemption [Take-Two] – 1,135,559
Wii Fit Plus [Nintendo] – 920,811
Just Dance 2 [Ubisoft ] – 903,866
Assassin’s Creed: Brotherhood [Ubisoft] – 880,755
Wii Sports Resort [Nintendo] – 818,554
Halo: Reach [Microsoft] – 781,331


Battleflop

The gap between Ghost and BO2 didn't change much since launch week(in terms of units).

Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: archie4208 on January 01, 2014, 09:05:59 PM
Call of Duty had a nice run.   :jawalrus
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on January 02, 2014, 02:33:52 AM
BF still cant beat Cod, and Titanfall wont beat Destiny.

Good job EA you had a shot at being top dog in fps amd you ruined it by a botched launch and a exclusivity deal.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Shaka Khan on January 02, 2014, 02:51:26 AM
I believe Titanfall will beat Destiny fairly easily. In fact, I have a feeling Destiny will be a pretty expensive bomb.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Human Snorenado on January 02, 2014, 02:52:46 AM
The reason I know Destiny is going to bomb is that I'm super interested in it, which is usually the kiss of death for a console shooter.

I still think Titanfall looks boring as fuck, though.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on January 02, 2014, 03:06:00 AM
It's hard to gauge the hype for Destiny now and I myself would rather play Titanfall (will do on PC), but:

-it is launching to about 85/90 million higher install base then Titanfall
-from the makers of Halo
-launching for holiday period
-Activision Blizzard has the marketing budget to make it sell

Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Stoney Mason on January 02, 2014, 03:08:00 AM
Quote from: Shaka Khan on January 02, 2014, 02:51:26 AM
I believe Titanfall will beat Destiny fairly easily. In fact, I have a feeling Destiny will be a pretty expensive bomb.

Titanfall will sell very well on the 360 and on the relatively small xbox one base that exists by March but I doubt it will outsell destiny once you include all the platforms.

I think Destiny will do well since its coming out on both current gen consoles. But I think "do well" is relative to what expectation people have and what expectations Activision has. I don't think it will do COD numbers for instance. I think whatever COD game comes out next fall whether its by Treyarch, or Sledgehammer will still sell way better. But I think destiny will do fine. I think Activision marketing will help that a great deal. They have invested too much to not push it hard.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on January 02, 2014, 03:11:16 AM
Yeah I doubt it will do COD numbers. But their approach in this one seems a bit more MMO in that regard that they will want to milk the userbase even more then with COD.

I'm expecting lots of IAP, DLC etc. Way more then in COD.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Stoney Mason on January 02, 2014, 03:35:48 AM
Obviously its harder to tell with a new IP whether that thing will click with the general public versus something that has a track record.

But I look at destiny and I think Borderlands did well. This will have a bigger marketing push from arguably a better marketer with Activision. It will certainly have the gaming press behind them because critics like Bungie (arguably more than they should) The space loot game thing doesn't seem so mainstream, but I have a feeling the marketing will be so strong that joe casual won't necessarily let that discourage him. It will be all the creators of Halo are back with this new shit.

Titanfall also seems like a sure thing and on xbox one I have no doubt it indeed will be a big deal but I wonder if all that excitement hasn't been a little lost on the 360 crowd who are really the audience that needs to be marketed too and so far I would argue they haven't necessarily done a great job with that.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on January 02, 2014, 03:49:58 AM
I'm with Shaka this time.

Titanfall--aiming at COD userbase,next gen COD with mechs
Destiny--will play like halo with numbers popping up,aiming at  ???
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on January 02, 2014, 03:50:36 AM
How much did Borderlands 2 sell? I think if Destiny can beat that it's on the right track.

Quote from: maxy on January 02, 2014, 03:49:58 AM
I'm with Shaka this time.

Titanfall--aiming at COD userbase,next gen COD with mechs
Destiny--will play like halo with numbers popping up,aiming at  ???

Titanfall - aiming at COD userbase, but launching to half of it
Destiny - aiming at the Halo/Borderlands userbase, launching to 2x Halo userbase
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on January 02, 2014, 04:02:16 AM
What if Destiny fails to please both of those groups?

That could happen...
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on January 02, 2014, 04:14:34 AM
Sure, but it must sell some on name, promise and marketing alone.

I don't like Halo and I don't like Borderlands, so chances are it's not for me.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: cool breeze on January 02, 2014, 04:31:58 AM
A little while back I read about how popular Destiny is in terms of social media talk views hits whatever and found it surprising.  All those woo woo shit trailers...uh, either way, I don't see it hyped up, or even talked about, by games media or forum peoples.  Comparatively, Titanfall is gaming's gabbo.  (these games are six months apart and different genres)
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on January 02, 2014, 04:38:22 AM
I think it's mostly English speaking media (US/UK).

As the 360 and bone are not popular in mainland Europe (even in the UK Bone is getting outsold by 50% by the PS4 now) I think you just don't see a lot of talk about Destiny.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on January 02, 2014, 05:51:10 AM
I'm not hyped for it, I don't like Halo OR Borderlands.
I'm buying Titanfall prob.
I don't have a PS4.

I'm trying to be a better poster in 2014 man, give me a chance.

Here I posted real reasons why I think it will do better:

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It's hard to gauge the hype for Destiny now and I myself would rather play Titanfall (will do on PC), but:

-it is launching to about 85/90 million higher install base then Titanfall
-from the makers of Halo
-launching for holiday period
-Activision Blizzard has the marketing budget to make it sell

Saying English speaking media and US media are not representative of regions where the Xbox doesn't have a foothold is not PS fanboyism, it's reality.

Titanfall will sell well on the 360 in Europe (UK), but without it being on Playstation it will never do OMG numbers. EA has made a huge mistake IMHO.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on January 02, 2014, 07:59:58 AM
Here is something just for Lager,copy-paste from gaf

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According to Macroaxis, a financial engineering tool website that analyzes companies and determines their well-being, Sony Entertainment has a discouraging 79% chance of going bankrupt in the next 2 years


“Based on latest financial disclosure Sony Corporation has Probability Of Bankruptcy of 78%. This is 182.34% higher than that of Consumer Goods sector, and 163.57% higher than that of Electronic Equipment industry, The Probability Of Bankruptcy for all stocks is 122.48% lower than the firm.”

While it wouldn’t be factual to say that SNE will fail in the next 2 years (it’s all a guess), the 78.49% figure is based off of real, actual numbers. Many will consider this number overly inflated, but it all doesn’t sound too far-fetched when you take into consideration some of the things that have been happening over in Sony Land. Last year, Sony’s market value was slashed down to “junk” status, and they’ve sold multiple HQ buildings as well.

Not to mention, Sony still hasn’t recovered from all of the money they’ve lost on the PS3, and the Vita is still not profitable and isn’t selling as well as it should.

For comparative purposes, Macroaxis is stating that Nintendo has only a 22% chance of failing in the next 2 years , which is very ironic considering the fact that the majority of gamers and journalists online are always claiming that Nintendo is in imminent danger, when in reality Nintendo is very healthy and Sony is the actually the one closest to failing out of the console manufacturers. Microsoft is sitting off to the side with only 1% chance of failure.

Nintendo is at 22%,btw

http://www.macroaxis.com/invest/ratio/SNE--Probability-Of-Bankruptcy

Click on the link if you want to see what those people are doing.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on January 02, 2014, 08:43:44 AM
Macroaxis seems like a legit company.

They have banner ads promoting other companies on their website.

Thats a telltale sign of a succesful business.

Next thing you link to is VGchartz? You need to check your sources brah.

Here is our in depth business analysis for free (LOL) also please buy a wardrobe.

(http://i.imgur.com/CpoQKF5.jpg)
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: archie4208 on January 02, 2014, 08:49:53 AM
I don't think Titanfall or Destiny will light the world on fire.  Sci-fi doesn't have as broad an appeal as modern military.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on January 02, 2014, 09:08:29 AM
Quote from: Exodust SoulBurn on January 02, 2014, 08:01:13 AM
Quote from: Borys on January 02, 2014, 07:00:32 AM
Gut feeling tells me Titanfall will be the better game out of those two but not the bigger seller.

I'm on the opposite end of that spectrum. I'll probably enjoy Destiny more and I see Titanfall selling way more.

If you call me out, at least respond to my response   :maf
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: AdmiralViscen on January 02, 2014, 09:47:38 AM
I would imagine the last-gen versions are being farmed out to someone else?
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on January 02, 2014, 10:08:21 AM
Quote from: AdmiralViscen on January 02, 2014, 09:47:38 AM
I would imagine the last-gen versions are being farmed out to someone else?

I think Bungie is making all four versions,no outsourcing...could be wrong,but they have said that PC port would spread them too thin

Titanfall is outsourced to someone else,Respawn choice apparently.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on January 02, 2014, 10:10:08 AM
Bungie is not really know for awesome tech so outsourcing might actually be a good thing.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on January 02, 2014, 10:19:27 AM
Well with MW Activision struck gold by accident so the game is not designed around DLC and IAP.

With Destiny (fitting name) this was probably their intention from the get go.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on January 02, 2014, 10:28:34 AM
I think subs are dead and won't come back any time soon.

60 dollar games with IAP is the future for AAA games like this, see Gran Turismo 6, Forza 5, RYSE.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: thisismyusername on January 02, 2014, 10:48:46 AM
Quote from: Borys on January 02, 2014, 07:00:32 AM
Gut feeling tells me Titanfall will be the better game out of those two but not the bigger seller.

I dunno, I could see it selling big. There's a 360 version so unless people completely sold their last console they'll probably pick that up since no PS4 version.

As it is, I can't see Destiny selling well. But that's because Bungie has no "effective track record" on consoles besides Halo which was X-box exclusive. Oni didn't light the charts on fire, IIRC. And Bungie was Mac/PC before that... so we'll see if they strike out or hit it big. But as it is, I have no interest in Destiny as soon as it was called a "FPSMMO." Subscriptions to play. :yuck
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Raban on January 02, 2014, 10:50:01 AM
Quote from: Stoney Mason on January 02, 2014, 03:35:48 AM
Titanfall also seems like a sure thing and on xbox one I have no doubt it indeed will be a big deal but I wonder if all that excitement hasn't been a little lost on the 360 crowd who are really the audience that needs to be marketed too and so far I would argue they haven't necessarily done a great job with that.
I really wish EA would say something about the 360 version of Titanfall. We know literally nothing at this point and the game is three months away.

Quote from: thisismyusername on January 02, 2014, 10:48:46 AM
Quote from: Borys on January 02, 2014, 07:00:32 AM
Gut feeling tells me Titanfall will be the better game out of those two but not the bigger seller.

I dunno, I could see it selling big. There's a 360 version so unless people completely sold their last console they'll probably pick that up since no PS4 version.

As it is, I can't see Destiny selling well. But that's because Bungie has no "effective track record" on consoles besides Halo which was X-box exclusive. Oni didn't light the charts on fire, IIRC. And Bungie was Mac/PC before that... so we'll see if they strike out or hit it big. But as it is, I have no interest in Destiny as soon as it was called a "FPSMMO." Subscriptions to play. :yuck
Destiny is subscription free as far as Bungie has said. Fwiw I don't think either of these games are gonna light the world on fire, but they'll absolutely be successful for their respective publishers.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on January 02, 2014, 10:54:21 AM
Quote from: Raban on January 02, 2014, 10:50:01 AM
Quote from: Stoney Mason on January 02, 2014, 03:35:48 AM
Titanfall also seems like a sure thing and on xbox one I have no doubt it indeed will be a big deal but I wonder if all that excitement hasn't been a little lost on the 360 crowd who are really the audience that needs to be marketed too and so far I would argue they haven't necessarily done a great job with that.
I really wish EA would say something about the 360 version of Titanfall. We know literally nothing at this point and the game is three months away.
Source engine on 360,don't be surprised if it runs at 30 fps.

Quote from: Lagerless on January 02, 2014, 08:43:44 AM
Macroaxis seems like a legit company.

They have banner ads promoting other companies on their website.

Thats a telltale sign of a succesful business.

Next thing you link to is VGchartz? You need to check your sources brah.

Here is our in depth business analysis for free (LOL) also please buy a wardrobe.

(http://i.imgur.com/CpoQKF5.jpg)

Spoken like a true Sony fan,down with unbelievers and fake wardrobe. :bow2
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Trent Dole on January 02, 2014, 01:10:29 PM
Which ones multiplat again? That ones gonna sell more.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Rufus on January 02, 2014, 01:20:04 PM
Let me peer into my crystal ball - ah, yes. Yes. Says right here. You're all full of shit.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: cool breeze on January 02, 2014, 01:28:35 PM
Quote from: archie4208 on January 02, 2014, 08:49:53 AM
I don't think Titanfall or Destiny will light the world on fire.  Sci-fi doesn't have as broad an appeal as modern military.

At a time modern military games didn't have as broad an appeal as WW2 ones.  But you're probably right that neither will compare to CoD business.  We'll see.  It'll actually be interesting to see how tastes changed.  At least when Tony Hawk and Guitar Hero died, it felt like a big drop off rather than migration to Skate and Rock Band.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on January 02, 2014, 01:49:16 PM
Quote from: Trent Dole on January 02, 2014, 01:10:29 PM
Which ones multiplat again? That ones gonna sell more.

Titanfall---360,XBO,PC
Destiny---360/PS3/XBO/PS4
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: archie4208 on January 04, 2014, 07:38:52 AM
Rust (PC survival game) sells 150k copies in 2 weeks. (http://www.facepunchstudios.com/2014/01/03/gmod-vs-rust-launch/)

Looks like online survival games are the next big thing.  DayZ was perpetually at the top of the Steam best seller charts all throughout the holiday sale and it did not receive a discount once.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Stoney Mason on January 04, 2014, 08:03:45 AM
I think the more significant bit is that it shows the viability of the early access concept as a money maker. I know Minecraft probably should have already served that purpose but I think a lot of people thought that was a one off fluke. And maybe at the mega level of Minecraft it is. But it seems to be a viable option for a lot of devs now. Arguably a better option than free to play in some aspects which in some cases has a negative stigma of money grubbing and low quality.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Great Rumbler on January 04, 2014, 09:30:23 AM
Starbound also sold a ton of copies when it came out last month.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on January 04, 2014, 09:44:51 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dINznonLHfk
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Phoenix Dark on January 04, 2014, 08:59:07 PM
At least survival games rely on some strategy, unlike CoD
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Stoney Mason on January 04, 2014, 09:00:37 PM
Quote from: Phoenix Dark on January 04, 2014, 08:59:07 PM
At least survival games rely on some strategy, unlike CoD

 :neogaf
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Phoenix Dark on January 04, 2014, 09:07:21 PM
Meet me on a real battlefield, Stony.

spoiler (click to show/hide)
Wolfenstein ET
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Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on January 06, 2014, 06:29:24 AM
Quote
Famitsu Sales: Week 52, 2013 (Dec 23 - Dec 29)

01./00. [3DS] The Legend of Zelda: A Link Between Worlds # <ADV> (Nintendo) {2013.12.26} (¥4.800) - 225.418 / NEW <80-100%>
02./01. [3DS] PazuDora Z: Puzzle & Dragons Z <RPG> (GungHo Online Entertainment) {2013.12.12} (¥4.400) - 198.968 / 1.005.697 <80-100%> (-27%)
03./00. [PS3] Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD Remaster <RPG> (Square Enix) {2013.12.26} (¥7.140) - 182.638 / NEW <60-80%>
04./02. [3DS] Pokemon X / Y # <RPG> (Pokemon Co.) {2013.10.12} (¥4.800) - 156.483 / 3.976.829 <80-100%> (-32%)
05./00. [PSV] Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD Remaster: Twin Pack # <RPG> (Square Enix) {2013.12.26} (¥7.140) - 134.645 / NEW <80-100%>
06./03. [WIU] Wii Party U # <ETC> (Nintendo) {2013.10.31} (¥4.935) - 87.262 / 518.766 <60-80%> (-32%)
07./04. [WIU] New Super Mario Bros. U # <ACT> (Nintendo) {2012.12.08} (¥5.985) - 75.131 / 965.794 <80-100%> (-34%)
08./07. [WIU] Super Mario 3D World <ACT> (Nintendo) {2013.11.21} (¥5.985) - 71.159 / 410.041 <60-80%> (-23%)
09./08. [3DS] Monster Hunter 4 # <ACT> (Capcom) {2013.09.14} (¥5.990) - 40.338 / 3.293.312 <80-100%> (-13%)
10./10. [3DS] Animal Crossing: New Leaf # <ETC> (Nintendo) {2012.11.08} (¥4.800) - 37.300 / 4.017.159 <80-100%> (-17%)
11./05. [PS3] New Dynasty Warriors: Gundam <ACT> (Bandai Namco Games) {2013.12.19} (¥7.980) - 37.294 / 150.787 <80-100%> (-67%)
12./13. [3DS] Friend Collection: New Life # <ETC> (Nintendo) {2013.04.18} (¥4.800) - 28.424 / 1.580.067 <80-100%> (-29%)
13./14. [3DS] Battle For Money Sentouchuu: Densetsu no Shinobi no Survival Battle! <ACT> (Bandai Namco Games) {2013.10.17} (¥4.980) - 28.323 / 194.918 <80-100%> (-10%)
14./16. [3DS] Inazuma Eleven Go Galaxy: Big Bang / Supernova <RPG> (Level 5) {2013.12.05} (¥5.500) - 26.566 / 169.867 <60-80%> (-10%)
15./12. [3DS] Disney Magic Castle: My Happy Life # <ETC> (Bandai Namco Games) {2013.08.01} (¥5.480) - 24.935 / 427.070 <80-100%> (-38%)
16./15. [3DS] New Super Mario Bros. 2 # <ACT> (Nintendo) {2012.07.28} (¥4.800) - 23.623 / 2.225.734 <80-100%> (-23%)
17./11. [3DS] Aikatsu! 2-nin no My Princess <SLG> (Bandai Namco Games) {2013.11.21} (¥5.480) - 23.120 / 170.716 <60-80%> (-43%)
18./17. [3DS] One Piece: Unlimited World Red # <ADV> (Bandai Namco Games) {2013.11.21} (¥5.980) - 22.639 / 186.817 <60-80%> (-17%)
19./00. [PSV] Final Fantasy X HD Remaster <RPG> (Square Enix) {2013.12.26} (¥3.990) - 22.619 / NEW <80-100%>
20./18. [WIU] Taiko no Tatsujin: Wii U Version! # <ACT> (Bandai Namco Games) {2013.11.21} (¥5.480) - 22.204 / 96.076 <40-60%> (-14%)
21./06. [PS3] Drakengard 3 <RPG> (Square Enix) {2013.12.19} (¥7.980) - 22.043 / 125.530 <80-100%> (-79%)
22./20. [PS3] Gran Turismo 6 # <RCE> (Sony Computer Entertainment) {2013.12.05} (¥6.980) - 21.512 / 282.686 <60-80%> (-9%)
23./21. [3DS] Youkai Watch <RPG> (Level 5) {2013.07.11} (¥4.800) - 18.747 / 286.453 <80-100%> (-19%)
24./09. [PSV] New Dynasty Warriors: Gundam <ACT> (Bandai Namco Games) {2013.12.19} (¥6.980) - 16.689 / 61.578 <80-100%> (-63%)
25./23. [3DS] Mario Kart 7 <RCE> (Nintendo) {2011.12.01} (¥4.800) - 16.524 / 2.166.003 <80-100%> (-21%)
26./27. [WIU] Wii Fit U [Wii U Family Premium Set Black/White] <ETC> (Nintendo) {2013.10.31} (¥34.800) - 14.458 / 58.769 <40-60%> (-10%)
27./24. [3DS] Super Mario 3D Land # <ACT> (Nintendo) {2011.11.03} (¥4.800) - 14.277 / 1.945.812 <80-100%> (-29%)
28./00. [PS3] Grand Theft Auto V <ACT> (Take-Two Interactive Japan) {2013.10.10} (¥7.770) - 13.733 / 605.882 <80-100%>
29./29. [3DS] Mario & Luigi: Dream Team # <RPG> (Nintendo) {2013.07.18} (¥4.800) - 13.506 / 392.732 <80-100%> (-6%)
30./25. [3DS] Luigi's Mansion: Dark Moon <ACT> (Nintendo) {2013.03.20} (¥4.800) - 13.427 / 982.737 <80-100%> (-25%)



Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on January 06, 2014, 06:32:33 AM
Thats nice for a remake.

Is that better then FFXIII-2?
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on January 06, 2014, 06:41:17 AM
Not yet.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Joe Molotov on January 06, 2014, 10:13:15 AM
PazuDora > Final Fantasy, enjoy your iOS future, consoletards. :smug

spoiler (click to show/hide)
But seriously, the Vita version sold almost as well as the PS3 version?? That seems pretty surprising.
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Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Tasty on January 06, 2014, 10:36:57 AM
Pokemon still cleaning up after two months, damn yo.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on January 06, 2014, 01:38:59 PM
http://news.xbox.com/2014/01/xbox-one-january-thank-you

3 million sold through in 2013.

It looks like December NPD will be good for Xbone(UK hardware is at 360k and LagerPD claims selling like shit outside of UK).

But seriously,Nintendo should enter into biggest fuck up Guinness book.


Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Vertigo on January 06, 2014, 01:52:54 PM
Quote from: archie4208 on January 02, 2014, 08:49:53 AM
I don't think Titanfall or Destiny will light the world on fire.  Sci-fi doesn't have as broad an appeal as modern military.

Which is why I think TF sticking to semi recognizable military of sorts will help it do better overall. Bungie have gone hard sci fi completely with Destiny at least in Halo you had the marines always grounding the story in human terms.

Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: archie4208 on January 06, 2014, 02:59:49 PM
Starbound sells 1 million copies (https://twitter.com/StarboundGame/status/420281073592188928)

DayZ sells 800k copies in less than a month. (http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2014-01-06-dayz-sells-800-000-copies-in-under-a-month)

Come jump into the PC pool, the water's fine.  :smug
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Great Rumbler on January 06, 2014, 04:07:57 PM
I'm not too surprised about DayZ, since a lot of people played and loved the Arma II mod, but Starbound has really come out of nowhere. Good on them.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on January 06, 2014, 04:23:06 PM
I'm more impressed by Star Citizen reaching $36 million.

 :omg
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on January 06, 2014, 04:29:25 PM
Quote from: maxy on January 06, 2014, 01:38:59 PM
http://news.xbox.com/2014/01/xbox-one-january-thank-you

3 million sold through in 2013.

It looks like December NPD will be good for Xbone(UK hardware is at 360k and LagerPD claims selling like shit outside of UK).

But seriously,Nintendo should enter into biggest fuck up Guinness book.

So it was 919k in november in the us, 360k in the uk. Maybe leaves 1.5 million for the bone in the us in december?


1.2 million/1.5 million xbone december npd
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: archie4208 on January 06, 2014, 04:49:25 PM
Quote from: Great Rumbler on January 06, 2014, 04:07:57 PM
I'm not too surprised about DayZ, since a lot of people played and loved the Arma II mod, but Starbound has really come out of nowhere. Good on them.

Terraria sold over 2 million copies as of a year ago and Starbound has been billed as Terraria 2 (even though there is a Terraria 2 in development  :dizzy).

Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on January 06, 2014, 05:47:26 PM
If xbox has done 2.5 million in us but only .5 million in europe that would be really bad for ms.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: magus on January 06, 2014, 06:03:19 PM
Quote from: Great Rumbler on January 06, 2014, 04:07:57 PM
I'm not too surprised about DayZ, since a lot of people played and loved the Arma II mod, but Starbound has really come out of nowhere. Good on them.

honestly i'm annoyed to see all these retro sandbox game gaining popularity,you can't throw a stone without hitting one... example's

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0zblKhWPfl8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qk5mkuy1i_E
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wHUNedvc5qY
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Trent Dole on January 06, 2014, 07:18:49 PM
I'm relatively new to pc stuffs but a lot of the people I know are pretty big on Starbound.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Great Rumbler on January 06, 2014, 07:35:10 PM
Quote from: magus on January 06, 2014, 06:03:19 PM
Quote from: Great Rumbler on January 06, 2014, 04:07:57 PM
I'm not too surprised about DayZ, since a lot of people played and loved the Arma II mod, but Starbound has really come out of nowhere. Good on them.

honestly i'm annoyed to see all these retro sandbox game gaining popularity,you can't throw a stone without hitting one... example's

Those three games look completely different from each other.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: magus on January 06, 2014, 07:53:52 PM
quotes from kickstarter and steam page's

Quote
Uh, is this like Dwarf Fortress?

OMG Dwarf Fortress is awesome, right? We want a Dwarf Fortress feel, in that we want to build complex, inter-related simulations that you can manage, and just watch your settlers live their lives in an ant-farmish kind of way...until disaster happens, then maybe some of them stop living their lives all together. We won't have the incredible depth of Dwarf Fortress at the start, but as long as there's support for the game, we'll keep adding more and more things to do.

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Isn't this a Terraria clone?

With only the basics features implemented so far, Crea does look reasonably similar to Terraria. As we build onto the basics that will change. In the end Crea will be a completely unique experience. Read our "Crea's Vision" updates for more information.

Quote
Craft The World is a unique sandbox strategy game, the mix of Dungeon Keeper, Terraria and Dwarf Fortress.
Explore a random generated world populated by dangerous creatures, build a dwarf fortress, gather resources, and craft all the items, weapons, and armor you need.

:teehee
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: benjipwns on January 07, 2014, 03:25:04 AM
It better have Facebook and Twitter integration (ideally posting every time I match four or more) or no...uh...non-sale?
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Great Rumbler on January 07, 2014, 08:58:37 AM
Quote from: magus on January 06, 2014, 07:53:52 PM
quotes from kickstarter and steam page's

Quote
Uh, is this like Dwarf Fortress?

OMG Dwarf Fortress is awesome, right? We want a Dwarf Fortress feel, in that we want to build complex, inter-related simulations that you can manage, and just watch your settlers live their lives in an ant-farmish kind of way...until disaster happens, then maybe some of them stop living their lives all together. We won't have the incredible depth of Dwarf Fortress at the start, but as long as there's support for the game, we'll keep adding more and more things to do.

Quote
Isn't this a Terraria clone?

With only the basics features implemented so far, Crea does look reasonably similar to Terraria. As we build onto the basics that will change. In the end Crea will be a completely unique experience. Read our "Crea's Vision" updates for more information.

Quote
Craft The World is a unique sandbox strategy game, the mix of Dungeon Keeper, Terraria and Dwarf Fortress.
Explore a random generated world populated by dangerous creatures, build a dwarf fortress, gather resources, and craft all the items, weapons, and armor you need.

:teehee

And yet all three look different. HOW CAN THIS BE?!?!?!
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: magus on January 07, 2014, 12:35:01 PM
oh come on dog,i was sort of pulling your chain but you can't tell me "they all look different" they are all subscribing to the basic of "explore around,chop some tree,build a house,gather more material,build more stuff" created by minecraft and reworked by terraria and it's so dang obvious that they all have to go under "no no dude,this game totaly isn't a terraria/dwarf fortress clone just inspired" one of them even goes as far as copying the 3D 8-bit visuals of minecraft!

Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Phoenix Dark on January 07, 2014, 01:01:13 PM
Xbone sales are very strong. Barely 1mil behind the PS4 despite $100 price difference.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on January 07, 2014, 01:34:42 PM
Quote from: Phoenix Dark on January 07, 2014, 01:01:13 PM
Xbone sales are very strong. Barely 1mil behind the PS4 despite $100 price difference.

Xbot
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Third on January 07, 2014, 01:47:40 PM
Quote from: Phoenix Dark on January 07, 2014, 01:01:13 PM
Xbone sales are very strong. Barely 1mil behind the PS4 despite $100 price difference.

Ps4 is still extremely supply constrained though.

Xbones can be found eveywhere.

Ps4 demand is much higher.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on January 07, 2014, 01:49:10 PM
there are still day one editions xbones in my local wal mart  :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol


fukkin flop of a system. yo ucan easily go onto amazon and order one. can't do that with a ps4
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Tasty on January 07, 2014, 02:04:31 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/3EgV3Oz.gif)
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on January 07, 2014, 02:29:37 PM
Wow xbox is already almost 50% behind right out of the gate, and PS4 is still supply constrained.

Wonder if MS has a backup plan.

I think we all saw this coming since E3 buy you would think they would at least be able to beat the PS4 at launch in the US and UK.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Shaka Khan on January 07, 2014, 03:10:49 PM
Oscar, what are your thoughts on PS4 selling 4.2 million to consumers (as of December 28th) and 9.8 million software units (2.3 attach rate)?

Does it align with any of your projections? And given the upcoming software releases and the pre-launch dust settling down, what trajectory do you think it'll follow?
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: The Sceneman on January 07, 2014, 03:43:37 PM
Quote from: magus on January 06, 2014, 07:53:52 PM
quotes from kickstarter and steam page's

Quote
Uh, is this like Dwarf Fortress?

OMG Dwarf Fortress is awesome, right? We want a Dwarf Fortress feel, in that we want to build complex, inter-related simulations that you can manage, and just watch your settlers live their lives in an ant-farmish kind of way...until disaster happens, then maybe some of them stop living their lives all together. We won't have the incredible depth of Dwarf Fortress at the start, but as long as there's support for the game, we'll keep adding more and more things to do.

Quote
Isn't this a Terraria clone?

With only the basics features implemented so far, Crea does look reasonably similar to Terraria. As we build onto the basics that will change. In the end Crea will be a completely unique experience. Read our "Crea's Vision" updates for more information.

Quote
Craft The World is a unique sandbox strategy game, the mix of Dungeon Keeper, Terraria and Dwarf Fortress.
Explore a random generated world populated by dangerous creatures, build a dwarf fortress, gather resources, and craft all the items, weapons, and armor you need.

:teehee

Oh noes, games aping other games  ::) Like all games are friggn original and theres no such thing as genre conventions? This just happens to be a relatively new genre. It's good when a breakout game like Minecraft lands and competitors are trying similar things, it creates competition and innovation. Like I think Terraria does a lot of things better than Minecraft for example.

Some of these games do look like shameless knock offs though, but you can't blame these people for wanting a piece of the pie.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Purple Filth on January 07, 2014, 03:43:59 PM
Quote from: Shaka Khan on January 07, 2014, 03:10:49 PM
Oscar, what are your thoughts on PS4 selling 4.2 million to consumers (as of December 28th) and 9.8 million software units (2.3 attach rate)?

Does it align with any of your projections? And given the upcoming software releases and the pre-launch dust settling down, what trajectory do you think it'll follow?

I'm interested as well
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Great Rumbler on January 07, 2014, 05:27:36 PM
Quote from: magus on January 07, 2014, 12:35:01 PM
one of them even goes as far as copying the 3D 8-bit visuals of minecraft!

(http://i.imgur.com/aQmGa3q.jpg)

That's 3D Dot Heroes visuals, you gigantic ignoramus.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on January 07, 2014, 05:32:18 PM
I wouldn't be surprised if Microsoft drops the price of the Bone to PS4 parity in the next couple of months.  While it is selling very well, Microsoft needs to make sure that the PS4 doesn't pull too far ahead, which seems likely considering how nobody is going to buy the Xbox in Japan.

I have to give Iwata a lot of credit: every day where he doesn't kill himself out of shame is a commendable feat.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Great Rumbler on January 07, 2014, 05:43:34 PM
I DEMAND MY CONSOLE MARKET COLLAPSE LIKE YOU PROMISED ME
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on January 07, 2014, 05:48:32 PM
Oscar how sad is EA now that the bone is tracking 40/50% under the PS4?

By the time Titanfall launches gap will be at 2 million at least.

I wonder if there is some clause to the contract.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Joe Molotov on January 07, 2014, 05:51:00 PM
Quote from: Lagerless on January 07, 2014, 05:48:32 PM
Oscar how sad is EA now that the bone is tracking 40/50% under the PS4?

By the time Titanfall launches gap will be at 2 million at least.

I wonder if there is some clause to the contract.

The Unprecedented Partnership Clause.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Stoney Mason on January 07, 2014, 05:52:11 PM
One big reason the market will decline in comparison to last gen is largely because there is no Wii. There will be no strong third console to prop up the market to those numbers. The Nintendo bubble is gone. So the hardware numbers based on three relatively strong consoles won't exist.

That being said I think that is different than a market crash. It's a market correction. I never did think the market would crash. And I don't think it will in the near future of this console generation.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on January 07, 2014, 06:28:44 PM
Just to be clear whats the third place and second place console for last gen
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Great Rumbler on January 07, 2014, 06:32:53 PM
PS4 = 4.2 million in 1.5 months
PS3 = 3.5 million in 4.5 months

Xbone = 3 million in 1.25 months
Xbox360 = 1.5 million in 1.25 months

Wii U = 4.3 million in 12 months
Wii = 18~ million in 12 months

Wii U definitely stands out like a sore thumb there.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on January 07, 2014, 07:36:09 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on January 07, 2014, 07:12:28 PM

Quote from: MyNameIsMethodis on January 07, 2014, 06:28:44 PM
Just to be clear whats the third place and second place console for last gen

At this precise point last gen?  PS3 was third, Wii was second.

oh sorry thought you meant overall
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Human Snorenado on January 07, 2014, 07:48:16 PM
I think the one thing we can decisively say about this gen so far is that the Weeeeoooooo has been an unmitigated disastrophe in every possible sense of the word.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Tasty on January 07, 2014, 08:38:49 PM
Quote from: Creepy Old Guy on January 07, 2014, 07:48:16 PM
I think the one thing we can decisively say about this gen so far is that the Weeeeoooooo has been an unmitigated disastrophe in every possible sense of the word.

So was 3DS before Iwata turned it around.

Based Iwata. :rejoice
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: AdmiralViscen on January 07, 2014, 08:58:55 PM
Iwata should fire that asshole who keeps handing him disastrophes to turn around
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Tasty on January 07, 2014, 09:10:45 PM
Reggie!!  :stahp
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: maxy on January 08, 2014, 05:42:21 AM
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Best selling 10 games in 2013:

01. [3DS] Pokemon X / Y - 3.976.829
02. [3DS] Monster Hunter 4 - 3.293.312
03. [3DS] Animal Crossing: New Leaf - 1.730.182
04. [3DS] Friend Collection: New Life - 1.580.067
05. [3DS] Dragon Quest VII: Fighters of Eden - 1.277.377
06. [3DS] PazuDora Z: Puzzle & Dragons Z - 1.005.697
07. [3DS] Luigi's Mansion: Dark Moon - 982.737
08. [PS3] Grand Theft Auto V - 605.882
09. [WIU] New Super Mario Bros. U - 584.479
10. [WIU] Wii Party U - 518.766

Time to pack the bags,Sony.

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Post by: DCharlieJP on January 08, 2014, 08:12:13 AM
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10. [WIU] Wii Party U - 518.766

WiiU Party U is the worst game i've played in a long time
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: archnemesis on January 08, 2014, 08:17:53 AM
Really? I was considering getting it once it reached Europe. What did you think of Nintendo Land?
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: DCharlieJP on January 08, 2014, 08:39:44 AM
Nintendoland was a slow burner - there's a lot more to it that first appears, though the game structure doesn't help reveal that. I ended up enjoying it for what it was.

Wii Party U is just dire - it's an exercise in the thing wiping it's ass on your time. Avoid it. It's shockingly bad. And the Mario Party style board game - holy shit. Everything is sloooow.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: archnemesis on January 08, 2014, 08:51:52 AM
Okay. I guess I'll follow my co-worker's advice and repurpose my Wii U for emulators instead.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Human Snorenado on January 08, 2014, 10:49:34 AM
Jesus. We're gonna have to bomb that country again until it's right.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Tasty on January 08, 2014, 11:01:09 AM
Quote from: Creepy Old Guy on January 08, 2014, 10:49:34 AM
Jesus. We're gonna have to bomb that country again until it's right.

You mean the US right, cause that list is perfect outside the lone PS3 game. :rejoice

MH4 and Pokemon topping the charts, glorious superior Nippon tastes in action. :jawalrus
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Joe Molotov on January 08, 2014, 11:03:48 AM
I'd play a Japanese developed Duck Dynasty dating sim, as long as I could play it in the superior Nihongonese w/English subs.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: AdmiralViscen on January 08, 2014, 12:33:25 PM
plz plz plz localize DQ7 fuck
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Tasty on January 08, 2014, 12:50:23 PM
Quote from: AdmiralViscen on January 08, 2014, 12:33:25 PM
plz plz plz localize DQ7 fuck

Ya there's a 60% chance I'd buy it if it was.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Rahxephon91 on January 08, 2014, 05:06:06 PM
We'll always have the memories Japan.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: radioheadrule83 on January 09, 2014, 06:06:42 AM
Quote from: maxy on January 08, 2014, 05:42:21 AM
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You joke here, but in an ideal world where Sony were clever enough to do it, and MS and Nintendo would allow it - PlayStation Now on other platforms would be amazing. They're currently saying only PS1/2/3 games, so its not like it steals customers from their new tranche of business on PS4/Vita, its just extra subscribers and fans added to what they would have had otherwise. Like a gateway drug.

If the streaming trial works in January and launch goes well later in the year, I wouldn't rule out MS launching their rival service and this along with digital stores being how we arrive at a more unified console platform future... imagine how much they'd love to have us as ongoing subscribers rather than getting sales in 5 year spurts

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Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Takao on January 09, 2014, 04:04:16 PM
"imagine how much they'd love to have us as ongoing subscribers rather than getting sales in 5 year spurts"

Xbox Live Gold?
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Third on January 11, 2014, 10:18:10 AM
Is it true that Xbones are easy to find in NA? I don't trust the sonybots in GAF.

I mean, demand being so low shortly after launch sounds like a disaster.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Joe Molotov on January 11, 2014, 10:20:07 AM
Quote from: Third on January 11, 2014, 10:18:10 AM
Is it true that Xbones are easy to find in NA? I don't trust the sonybots in GAF.

I mean, demand being so low shortly after launch sounds like a disaster.

My local Best Buy has literally a hundred. It's like this huge 20 foot stack.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Third on January 11, 2014, 10:25:44 AM
Quote from: Joe Molotov on January 11, 2014, 10:20:07 AM
Quote from: Third on January 11, 2014, 10:18:10 AM
Is it true that Xbones are easy to find in NA? I don't trust the sonybots in GAF.

I mean, demand being so low shortly after launch sounds like a disaster.

My local Best Buy has literally a hundred. It's like this huge 20 foot stack.

For real?

I know that German retailers are full of stock as well. I see mountains of Xbone consoles when I'm out hunting for a Ps4.

But the same happening in NA is kinda shocking.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Third on January 11, 2014, 10:29:17 AM
http://forum.beyond3d.com/showpost.php?p=1819791&postcount=508

I don't know how trustworthy that is. But if that's true.... then I hink that Xbox U might done in NA
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Eel O'Brian on January 11, 2014, 10:49:44 AM
My BB has a decent sized stack, and a sign on the front door with XBOX ONE IN STOCK in bold letters that's been taped up there for a couple of weeks. That doesn't really mean anything, but a $500 system is probably gonna be a tough sell in February.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: archnemesis on January 11, 2014, 10:50:41 AM
We'll know how stuffed the channels are once we get the NPD numbers in a few days. From reading GAF it seems like the XB1 is fairly popular.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Great Rumbler on January 11, 2014, 10:52:04 AM
Quote from: archnemesis on January 11, 2014, 10:50:41 AM
From reading GAF it seems like the XB1 is fairly popular.

Everything is popular according to GAF.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on January 11, 2014, 10:57:43 AM
Quelle surprise
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Beezy on January 11, 2014, 12:30:21 PM
Quote from: Third on January 11, 2014, 10:29:17 AM
http://forum.beyond3d.com/showpost.php?p=1819791&postcount=508

I don't know how trustworthy that is. But if that's true.... then I hink that Xbox U might done in NA
:lol
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Third on January 11, 2014, 12:58:00 PM
Lol no, I'm Albanian/Turkish and live in the Netherlands. I just visited Germany to see if they had any Ps4's available, because the console is sold out in NL.

The X1 isn't even available here in Holland. No one is interested anyway.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on January 11, 2014, 01:04:30 PM
Bone is dead here too in Ireland.

Ps4 demo units always have people on them (its set up with fifa 14 everywhere) no one seems to want to play the forza Bone units.

Saw signs around town yesterday saying the ps4 is back in stock, went to ask and they had 2 left.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on January 11, 2014, 06:07:40 PM
Quote from: Third on January 11, 2014, 10:18:10 AM
Is it true that Xbones are easy to find in NA? I don't trust the sonybots in GAF.

I mean, demand being so low shortly after launch sounds like a disaster.

I wanted one and a PS4 and up until a couple days before Christmas, the Bone was impossible to find.  Now they're everywhere.  So either people stopped buying them after Christmas or Microsoft shipped out a shitload of them (or both).  Still can't find a PS4 but since I heard Sony can ship over a million of them a month, I will just wait a month or two.  No big deal.

Edit: Gaffers are finding places with a bunch of PS4 stock in the US http://neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=749945
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: thisismyusername on January 11, 2014, 06:21:51 PM
I think the X-box's sales are extremely front-loaded. They got as many people as they can after that DRM-fiasco and now they have to prey to get some residual sales. I really do not know anyone that has an interest in buying that system after the DRM-fiasco.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Third on January 12, 2014, 12:55:56 PM
http://m.neogaf.com/showpost.php?p=96803681

Verified by bishop as well. Xbox U is done. What a disaster
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Mupepe on January 12, 2014, 04:01:43 PM
LOL @ people calling it over already. Not surprised by who that is though
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on January 13, 2014, 08:04:42 AM
PS4 killing Bone in the UK

Also just one Nintendo game in the chart, Just Dance for Wii, no Mario  :lol

01 (01) PS4 FIFA 14 (ELECTRONIC ARTS)
 02 (03) 360 CALL OF DUTY: GHOSTS (ACTIVISION BLIZZARD)
 03 (05) 360 GRAND THEFT AUTO V (TAKE 2)
04 (30) PS4 KILLZONE: SHADOW FALL (SONY COMPUTER ENT.)
 05 (09) PS4 CALL OF DUTY: GHOSTS (ACTIVISION BLIZZARD)
 06 (06) 360 FIFA 14 (ELECTRONIC ARTS)
 07 (04) 360 MINECRAFT: XBOX 360 EDITION (MICROSOFT)
08 (08) PS4 BATTLEFIELD 4 (ELECTRONIC ARTS)
 09 (02) 360 ASSASSIN'S CREED IV: BLACK FLAG (UBISOFT)
 10 (07) XBO FIFA 14 (ELECTRONIC ARTS)
 11 (14) PS3 GRAND THEFT AUTO V (TAKE 2)
 12 (18) PS3 FIFA 14 (ELECTRONIC ARTS)
 13 (10) XBO BATTLEFIELD 4 (ELECTRONIC ARTS)
14 (17) PS4 ASSASSIN'S CREED IV: BLACK FLAG (UBISOFT)
 15 (13) XBO FORZA MOTORSPORT 5 (MICROSOFT)
 16 (19) PS3 CALL OF DUTY: GHOSTS (ACTIVISION BLIZZARD)
 17 (11) 360 BATTLEFIELD 4 (ELECTRONIC ARTS)
 18 (16) PS3 ASSASSIN'S CREED IV: BLACK FLAG (UBISOFT)
 19 (25) PC FOOTBALL MANAGER 2014 (SEGA)
 20 (15) XBO CALL OF DUTY: GHOSTS (ACTIVISION BLIZZARD)
 21 (21) WII JUST DANCE 2014 (UBISOFT)
22 (22) PS4 NEED FOR SPEED: RIVALS (ELECTRONIC ARTS)
 23 (28) PS4 LEGO MARVEL SUPER HEROES (WARNER BROS. INTERACTIVE)
 24 (24) 360 LEGO MARVEL SUPER HEROES (WARNER BROS. INTERACTIVE)
 25 (20) XBO DEAD RISING 3 (MICROSOFT)
 26 (37) 360 ALIENS: COLONIAL MARINES (SEGA)
 27 (23) 360 NEED FOR SPEED: RIVALS (ELECTRONIC ARTS)
 28 (12) PS3 GRAN TURISMO 6 (SONY COMPUTER ENT.)
 29 (26) XBO RYSE: SON OF ROME (MICROSOFT)
30 (40) PS4 KNACK (SONY COMPUTER ENT.)

(http://i.minus.com/itFwuZwiAUeuD.gif)
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Third on January 13, 2014, 09:51:28 AM
NA and UK are all that MS has left. The other territories don't care about the Xbox brand.

And the UK is already choosing the Ps4 for nextgen. I have a feeling that it's going to be the same in NA. 

Poor MS
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Brehvolution on January 13, 2014, 10:00:20 AM
It makes me sad to see COD beat out BF4 when BF4 is such a better game.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Rufus on January 13, 2014, 10:35:36 AM
I wonder how much the technical issues impacted the sales. Could it have finally surpassed CoD?
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: ToxicAdam on January 13, 2014, 02:45:44 PM
What's depressing to me is if you could remove the numbers from those titles (and Minecraft), you might not be able to tell if its a list from 2009, 2011 or 2014.


Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Third on January 13, 2014, 06:29:06 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/xUD7TqQ.jpg)

Day 52 edition still available in shops.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on January 13, 2014, 07:18:02 PM
lolin irl @xbots "bu bu bu bu" lol i told u distinguished mentally-challenged fellows sony would be back
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Trent Dole on January 13, 2014, 07:23:05 PM
Borys I think anyone with half a brain knew that was going to the case before either system fucking launched. I'm surprised Meth hasn't started stanning for xbone in order to be a proper contrarian distinguished mentally-challenged fellow which seems to be his schtick here. Maybe once we're far enough into the new gen to just be calling it current gen?
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on January 13, 2014, 07:24:10 PM
I've bee na Sony warrior since i first played a PS1
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Trent Dole on January 13, 2014, 07:26:58 PM
Ha, yeah they won their first gen out by default too. Sega was a mess and N64 games looked terrible from day one (not to mention Shiggy being a dumbass and making them stick with carts). Such history much repeat
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: archie4208 on January 13, 2014, 07:27:54 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/aA3MQAe.png)

 :gaben
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Stoney Mason on January 13, 2014, 07:29:31 PM
sigh. Will PC gamers ever get that large massive chip off their shoulder?
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Himu on January 13, 2014, 07:31:00 PM
Never.

If PC gaming were a person it would be Paul Levesque.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Joe Molotov on January 13, 2014, 07:31:40 PM
Will console gamers ever get to experience 1080p gaming?
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Human Snorenado on January 13, 2014, 07:33:19 PM
Quote from: Stoney Mason on January 13, 2014, 07:29:31 PM
sigh. Will PC gamers ever get that large massive chip off their shoulder?

Absolutely, once the console industry is a smoldering crater :heh
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Stoney Mason on January 13, 2014, 07:35:25 PM
Quote from: Formerly Known As Himuro on January 13, 2014, 07:31:00 PM
Never.

If PC gaming were a person it would be Paul Levesque.

I mean we are living in a world where steam is very popular. Normal regular people recognize the PC market is fine. It's like everybody is still stuck in 2006 or something and that the word is against them. PC games sell fine. Mobile games sell fine. Console games sell fine. You don't have to chest thump your platform everytime one does.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Himu on January 13, 2014, 07:37:47 PM
Quote from: Stoney Mason on January 13, 2014, 07:35:25 PM
Quote from: Formerly Known As Himuro on January 13, 2014, 07:31:00 PM
Never.

If PC gaming were a person it would be Paul Levesque.

I mean we are living in a world where steam is very popular. Normal regular people recognize the PC market is fine. It's like everybody is still stuck in 2006 or something and that the word is against them. PC games sell fine. Mobile games sell fine. Console games sell fine. You don't have to chest thump your platform everytime one does.

Like I said, they're Paul Levesque. Their egos are so bruised by being called a "b+ wrestler" in fucking 1998 that they can't get over it two decades later in 2014 even after proving the person wrong. Just ignore them; they're ants.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Great Rumbler on January 13, 2014, 07:42:56 PM
Quote from: Borys on January 13, 2014, 07:39:31 PM
I will never understand boasting that some PC game sold 1M copies. In the console space GTA sold 20M copies, every single post MW COD sells 20M copies, BF4 sold 10M copies. Why should I be impressed by 1M sold on the PC? Aren't there 800M PCs in the world?

That's 1 million copies for a game that hasn't even been formally released yet. Heck, it's not even finished yet.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Rufus on January 13, 2014, 07:43:18 PM
Not to give the number-wars more credence, but what's the spread on the console side like? Not many devs left who're happy with 1m, I take it? Because for Bohemia Interactive that's probably huge. When that's coming from devs I read it as "see, sustainable, neener neener", rather than "lulz, suck it haterrrs".

Okay, maybe some of column A, some of column B...
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Stoney Mason on January 13, 2014, 07:46:11 PM
Quote from: Borys on January 13, 2014, 07:39:31 PM
I will never understand boasting that some PC game sold 1M copies. GTA sold 20M copies, every single post MW COD sells 20M copies, BF4 sold 10M copies. Why should I be impressed by 1M sold on the PC? Aren't there 800M PCs in the world?

I am dead serious BTW. A good selling PC game should be measured the same as good selling console game i.e. 4-5M copies. Diablo 3 is a great PC seler (over 10M copies). SC2 is. The Sims 3 are. Minecraft is. Not a game selling 1M copies be it DayZ or Rome: Total War.

I don't even really think its about that. I mean eveybody here knows the PC is doing fine now. It's not even a debate. It's not like there are 20 posters on here saying its an irrelevant platform. Most of the really frequent posters including myself either game on the PC or have a gaming PC in addition to whatever else they game on. Yes there were some dark days a number of years back but its all relatively good now. The market is healthier now. The PC isn't going anywhere. Which is not to say its the #1 mainstream format but who cares. Isn't that supposed to be part of the appeal. That's its an alternative market that even if its not larger, it cultures a different environment due to the more focused group it attracts.

I mean I know everybody understands that on here but I still don't understand the whole I'm going to fight/joke against a meme that doesn't even really exist anymore.

Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on January 13, 2014, 07:54:04 PM
Quote from: Trent Dole on January 13, 2014, 07:23:05 PM
Borys I think anyone with half a brain knew that was going to the case before either system fucking launched. I'm surprised Meth hasn't started stanning for xbone in order to be a proper contrarian distinguished mentally-challenged fellow which seems to be his schtick here. Maybe once we're far enough into the new gen to just be calling it current gen?

Yeah I'm not sure why anyone is surprised.  PS4 and Xbone games look the same to people (sorry, pixel counting distinguished mentally-challenged fellows don't count as people) but the PS4 is $100 cheaper than the Bone.  So why get an Xbox One when you can get the same experience for 20% less money?  Again it wouldn't surprise me to see Microsoft dropping the price to $399 in March, April, or May.

Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Himu on January 13, 2014, 07:55:47 PM
The real test for ps4 will be against a 400 dollar xbox u. xbox u is a well made system and ps4 feels cheap in comparison. that could be an edge for ms.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on January 13, 2014, 08:08:35 PM
I don't think consumers are stupid, theres no way a $400 xbone would even beat a PS4; the PS4 is still more powerful. It would take a $350 one to get above
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Human Snorenado on January 13, 2014, 08:21:52 PM
Quote from: MyNameIsMethodis on January 13, 2014, 08:08:35 PM
I don't think consumers are stupid, theres no way a $400 xbone would even beat a PS4; the PS4 is still more powerful. It would take a $350 one to get above

Yeah, because the Wii never happened or anything

Fuck, how do you go through life being that stupid
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on January 13, 2014, 08:29:47 PM
The Wii wasn't the exact same thing as the PS3 and Xbox 360 though. It's not like in 2007 you could pick up a PS3 or 360 and bowl with this weird motion dildo. It had it's own unique gimmick and games, neither of which the Bone has.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on January 13, 2014, 09:22:08 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on January 13, 2014, 08:02:43 PM
i dunno, generally things don't turn around in individual regions once someone's got an edge.  and the only region left up for grabs isn't going to go MS's way at all, so i think we can tie a ribbon on this thing.  if they dropped price tomorrow maybe, but you know they're going to hold off as long as possible on a price drop.

I dunno, there are some people on the internet who think the Wii U's fortunes are going to turn around when Mario Kart 8 comes out.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: archie4208 on January 15, 2014, 01:52:05 PM
Steam hits 75 million active accounts. (https://twitter.com/DaveOshry/status/423523609286836224)

That's kinda sales related, right?
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on January 15, 2014, 02:40:35 PM
Quote from: Stoney Mason on January 13, 2014, 07:29:31 PM
sigh. Will PC gamers ever get that large massive chip off their shoulder?

That "massive chip" is called a GeForce GTX 780 Ti, thank you very much
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Third on January 15, 2014, 06:27:53 PM
Quote from: archie4208 on January 15, 2014, 01:52:05 PM
Steam hits 75 million active accounts. (https://twitter.com/DaveOshry/status/423523609286836224)

That's kinda sales related, right?

Pretty bad when you consider that Facebook has over 1bln
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Great Rumbler on January 15, 2014, 06:33:45 PM
Not really, when you consider that Facebook and Steam are highly dissimilar.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Phoenix Dark on January 15, 2014, 10:38:14 PM
grade A trolling
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Eel O'Brian on January 15, 2014, 10:51:05 PM
Quote from: Zero Hero on January 13, 2014, 10:00:20 AM
It makes me sad to see COD beat out BF4 when BF4 is such a better game.

It worked out of the box.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Stoney Mason on January 16, 2014, 12:08:12 AM
Even if the BF 4 launch was smooth it's never going to catch COD in sales. In fact I thought the whole EA constantly talking about taking down COD from a few years back was one of the dumber PR messages they tried to push across. COD is like McDonald's. You aren't just going to take it down as a genre king and if it was going to be taken down, it would most likely be by a game that also has massive casual appeal. Battlefield is simply not as accessible and not as casual as COD. And if COD declines that means fps multiplayer shooters in general are probably on a slight decline including Battlefield.

They should just focus on building the best game they can and be happy with the sales they have and put it into a rotation with TitanFall and Battlefront. That will give you a more than healthy share of the shooter market without worrying about COD every year so much that it forces you to put out a broken game at launch.

Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: thisismyusername on January 16, 2014, 12:57:59 AM
No. Please. Not a rotation. Let DICE breathe a little.

This same problem (yearly releases) plagued CoD to the point where them having to do more and more and bigger and better killed that series within two releases after CoD4 for me.

BF4 would be fine if it wasn't rushed out the door to where the issues it has/had right now is inexcusable. But it was. And EA is forcing DICE to do Battlefront as well as fix BF4 which means Battlefront may get these issues again because EA won't let DICE just do Battlefield, support it, work on their Engine/Frostbite and help EA's internal devs with Frostbite issues while supporting BF4 and planning BF5 in the near future...
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Himu on January 16, 2014, 02:28:55 AM
I think one of the best things BF has going for it is the complete lack of yearly updates. Looking forward to Star Wars Battlefront.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Stoney Mason on January 16, 2014, 06:01:36 AM
DICE and battlefield are already on the same rotation as any Call of Duty Developer. The only difference being that the "off year" is filled with another title from another studio. That was the entire plan with Medal of Honor and battlefield but Medal of Honor sucked so that got replaced in the rotation with what will probably become Battlefront.

Here is DICE's output in recent years.

(2005) Battlefield 2
(2006) Battlefield 2142
(2008) Battlefield: Bad Company
(2009) Mirror's Edge
(2009) Battlefield 1943
(2010) Battlefield: Bad Company 2
(2011) Battlefield 3
(2013) Battlefield 4

So they are already on a very prolific schedule with battlefield and that's not even including all the DLC from all this stuff and the Medal of Honor Multiplayer from 2010 which was also them.

And there is DICE LA now which is a separate studio also so the rotation idea is going to happen in some form.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Brehvolution on January 16, 2014, 09:32:24 AM
Quote from: Eel O'Brian on January 15, 2014, 10:51:05 PM
Quote from: Zero Hero on January 13, 2014, 10:00:20 AM
It makes me sad to see COD beat out BF4 when BF4 is such a better game.

It worked out of the box.

I bought every COD between MW2 to BO2 and was a big fan. But BF4 multiplayer slaughters them all. I haven't played Ghosts, but it looks like more of the same. They both cost $60. Content wise, Ghosts is a slice of pizza where BF4 is a whole pizza. Graphics wise, it's not even fair to compare the 2. Activision was so outclassed it's embarrassing.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: thisismyusername on January 16, 2014, 09:55:10 AM
Stoney, and it's becoming apparent that yearly/bi-yearly is wearing on them.

They are doing:

BF4 DLC/fixing BF4
Battlefront 3
Frostbite 3->4 engine
Frostbite support for inside-EA development studios (since EA overlords want it used for everything now)
Mantle API

Too many fingers in too many pies, whereas back in 2010 when BC2 launched they were doing:

Frostbite 1.5->2/BF3 ramping up
BC2 DLC/support
(Possibly Medal of Honor, but that was such a quicky job I wouldn't consider it a full DICE schedule event)

And that was it.

See what I'm getting at?
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Stoney Mason on January 16, 2014, 02:25:35 PM
Quote from: thisismyusername on January 16, 2014, 09:55:10 AM
Stoney, and it's becoming apparent that yearly/bi-yearly is wearing on them.

I wouldn't disagree with that based on the state of the BF 4 launch. I was more going for what they've already been doing and what is most likely to happen in the future.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on January 16, 2014, 04:08:34 PM
Its npd day right
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Purple Filth on January 16, 2014, 04:34:07 PM
Quote from: Lagerless on January 16, 2014, 04:08:34 PM
Its npd day right

IIRC yes

should be fun  :lol
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: cool breeze on January 16, 2014, 04:36:22 PM
Dice's Battlefront is 2015, right? maybe not the big fall release but releasing episode 7 DLC in december to coincide with the movie would make sense

Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Joe Molotov on January 16, 2014, 04:55:24 PM
Come on, Wii U! Iwata needs a new pair of shoes!
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Steve Contra on January 16, 2014, 05:48:08 PM
December isn't the interesting month.  January and February should bring the real :gddr5
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on January 16, 2014, 05:49:20 PM
Quote from: Joe Molotov on January 16, 2014, 04:55:24 PM
Come on, Wii U! Iwata needs a new pair of shoes!

that's about how much they sold, yeah
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Human Snorenado on January 16, 2014, 05:54:44 PM
Quote from: Howard Alan Treesong on January 16, 2014, 05:49:20 PM
Quote from: Joe Molotov on January 16, 2014, 04:55:24 PM
Come on, Wii U! Iwata needs a new pair of shoes!

that's about how much they sold, yeah

:dead
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Steve Contra on January 16, 2014, 06:22:19 PM
Quote from: Major Nelson
NPD: Xbox One and Xbox 360 were the top selling consoles for each generation in the US in December. 908k (Xbox One) and 643k (Xbox 360)

Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: CajoleJuice on January 16, 2014, 06:24:48 PM
 :drudge
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Human Snorenado on January 16, 2014, 06:25:38 PM
LAGER INCOMING! LAGER INCOMING! I REPEAT, LAGER INCOMING!
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Himu on January 16, 2014, 06:30:16 PM
You guys...are taking..major nelsons word? :gurl
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: MCD on January 16, 2014, 06:36:28 PM
You think he would lie about something that will be revealed in mere minutes?
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Human Snorenado on January 16, 2014, 06:37:39 PM
Quote from: Formerly Known As Himuro on January 16, 2014, 06:30:16 PM
You guys...are taking..major nelsons word? :gurl

That's a pretty definitive statement, and also believable in light of the PS4 supply constraint.

:yeshrug
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Shaka Khan on January 16, 2014, 06:38:17 PM
Lager and his sniggaquad on suicide watch.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: archie4208 on January 16, 2014, 06:41:10 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on January 16, 2014, 06:40:17 PM
Also, those numbers are *awful* if they're the best sellers of the month.

Can I jump back aboard the console doom train?
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Shaka Khan on January 16, 2014, 06:41:51 PM
PS4 could've sold 3 times as much had Sony shipped more units. :hitler
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Tasty on January 16, 2014, 06:43:40 PM
(http://abload.de/img/138991395288zqojr.jpg)

No Pokemon :stahp
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Human Snorenado on January 16, 2014, 06:46:13 PM
Quote from: Tasty Meat on January 16, 2014, 06:43:40 PM
(http://abload.de/img/138991395288zqojr.jpg)

No Pokemon :stahp

(http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/500x/43037190.jpg)
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: cool breeze on January 16, 2014, 06:46:43 PM
top ten for December and whole of 2013 are almost identical
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Himu on January 16, 2014, 06:47:09 PM
Is Pokemon like, almost irrelevant now in NA? Because the sales for X+Y seem to indicate such.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on January 16, 2014, 06:47:22 PM
Feel kind of bad for MS, the one territory where they mean anything and they are behind already two months in.

Doesnt look good for xbox one.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Steve Contra on January 16, 2014, 06:47:45 PM
A single console port of a several year old PC game making the top ten list of the year over anything Nintendo put out this year :hitler

Also Minecraft to become the best selling non-bundled game of all time?  Seems so.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Stoney Mason on January 16, 2014, 06:48:17 PM
Snagging Minecraft for the 360 was a god damn game changer for MS and I never would have thought that at the time.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Shaka Khan on January 16, 2014, 06:48:30 PM
Quote
"According to the latest NPD report, PlayStation 4 remains the cumulative leader for next gen console sales in the US since the launch on November 15," said Sony's senior director of corporate communications, Dan Race.

Sounds like the xbone lead is narrow.

Edit:

Math puts the PS4: 680.000 - 908.000
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Tasty on January 16, 2014, 06:50:21 PM
Quote from: Formerly Known As Himuro on January 16, 2014, 06:47:09 PM
Is Pokemon like, almost irrelevant now in NA? Because the sales for X+Y seem to indicate such.

1.7 million (http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=715970) in first month is "almost irrelevant"? :hitler
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Positive Touch on January 16, 2014, 06:51:07 PM
Quote from: Tasty Meat on January 16, 2014, 06:43:40 PM
No Pokemon :stahp

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MJNsQPRSWpY
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Himu on January 16, 2014, 06:52:04 PM
It did 1.7? Not bad. Better than Final Fantasy XIII first month.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: thisismyusername on January 16, 2014, 06:52:10 PM
Quote from: Stoney Mason on January 16, 2014, 02:25:35 PM
Quote from: thisismyusername on January 16, 2014, 09:55:10 AM
Stoney, and it's becoming apparent that yearly/bi-yearly is wearing on them.

I wouldn't disagree with that based on the state of the BF 4 launch. I was more going for what they've already been doing and what is most likely to happen in the future.

Right, which is really a shame because again: Studio really needs a breather from the suffocation EA is doing to them. They're at their best when they aren't being forced to release things on a set schedule.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Tasty on January 16, 2014, 06:57:17 PM
Quote from: Formerly Known As Himuro on January 16, 2014, 06:52:04 PM
It did 1.7? Not bad. Better than Final Fantasy XIII first month.

It's down from B/W (2.4 mil) and D/P (1.75 mil) but it's still certainly nothing to snuff at.

Although, this might just be the NPD not combining versions hence it not making the list. :ufup
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: SantaC on January 16, 2014, 07:05:10 PM
hell yeah Wii U is dead, hooray!

It is by far the worst Nintendo console ever released. I haven't turned it on since last x-mas.

Maybe finally Nintendo will wake out and release more than just a fisher price machine.


Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on January 16, 2014, 07:06:19 PM
Wonder what ms will do to make the bone a viable platform this gen.

Will 35 million sales be enough to get 3rd party support?

Wouldn suprise me if sony is going to get some 3rd party exclusives like in the ps2 days by sheer virtue of the lead they have.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Joe Molotov on January 16, 2014, 07:08:58 PM
Quote from: Tasty Meat on January 16, 2014, 06:43:40 PM
No Pokemon :stahp

5 Wii U games in the Top 10, tho.  :hitler
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: SantaC on January 16, 2014, 07:10:19 PM
Quote from: Joe Molotov on January 16, 2014, 07:08:58 PM
Quote from: Tasty Meat on January 16, 2014, 06:43:40 PM
No Pokemon :stahp

5 Wii U games in the Top 10, tho.  :hitler

but according to Nintendo 3rd parties doesn't matter.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Phoenix Dark on January 16, 2014, 07:13:46 PM
908k XB1 in December whoa

It's pretty clear the Xbone would be tied or ahead of the PS4 if it was $100 cheaper.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Himu on January 16, 2014, 07:14:39 PM
Christmas time isn't a good indicator. Wait or Jan and Feb npd.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Tasty on January 16, 2014, 07:22:49 PM
"Middling" when the 3DS is probably on top for December. :hitler
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Himu on January 16, 2014, 07:23:16 PM
Middling compared to the Nintendo DS, yes.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Eel O'Brian on January 16, 2014, 07:30:06 PM
Quote from: Zero Hero on January 16, 2014, 09:32:24 AM
Quote from: Eel O'Brian on January 15, 2014, 10:51:05 PM
Quote from: Zero Hero on January 13, 2014, 10:00:20 AM
It makes me sad to see COD beat out BF4 when BF4 is such a better game.

It worked out of the box.

I bought every COD between MW2 to BO2 and was a big fan. But BF4 multiplayer slaughters them all. I haven't played Ghosts, but it looks like more of the same. They both cost $60. Content wise, Ghosts is a slice of pizza where BF4 is a whole pizza. Graphics wise, it's not even fair to compare the 2. Activision was so outclassed it's embarrassing.

Oh, I agree, and if they announced BF1944 tomorrow I'd be all :hyper , but I think bad word of mouth really (and deservedly) fucked them this time
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Tasty on January 16, 2014, 07:33:19 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on January 16, 2014, 07:24:47 PM

Quote from: Tasty Meat on January 16, 2014, 07:22:49 PM
"Middling" when the 3DS is probably on top for December. :hitler

That is not contrary to what I said, Andy.

I know, just wanted to stan Nintendo. :fbm

It's hard to fight the urges sometimes. :fbm
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Purple Filth on January 16, 2014, 07:34:15 PM
Quote from: Tasty Meat on January 16, 2014, 06:43:40 PM
(http://abload.de/img/138991395288zqojr.jpg)

No Pokemon :stahp

NPD finally did something good then.


Also the spinning from both sides in the GAF thread  :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Phoenix Dark on January 16, 2014, 07:34:26 PM
(https://31.media.tumblr.com/feb75e5db87346784bd15f4512a5cd5c/tumblr_mzh2rud5Kd1rpeq1jo1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Tasty on January 16, 2014, 07:38:29 PM
Quote from: Phoenix Dark on January 16, 2014, 07:34:26 PM
(https://31.media.tumblr.com/feb75e5db87346784bd15f4512a5cd5c/tumblr_mzh2rud5Kd1rpeq1jo1_500.jpg)

(http://imageshack.us/a/img29/4083/tumblrlzrk6aq7ex1qdsjb2.jpg)
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Himu on January 16, 2014, 08:00:51 PM
Well, by comparison, if you compare the wii and ps3, which were just recently released that year, it's not that bad. Talking about the 2006 numbers.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Phoenix Dark on January 16, 2014, 08:01:43 PM
old, out of date systems selling less? color me shocked
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Tasty on January 16, 2014, 08:03:33 PM
I expect Weeooo to have sold 300k.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Himu on January 16, 2014, 08:03:36 PM
I mean, One sold 908k versus Wii's 600k and Ps3's 500k. All three were supply constrained in their first December out.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Himu on January 16, 2014, 08:06:42 PM
But aren't X1 and ps4 supply constrained? That's what I read before release, or was that bullshit.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on January 16, 2014, 08:23:01 PM
Pretty weak spinning from sfags here.

On the upside, it was a Nintendo free Christmas.  No Mario 3D World, no Pokemon, nothing on the Top 10.  Nintendo used to dominate the holidays and now it is nowhere to be found.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Purple Filth on January 16, 2014, 08:36:24 PM
Quote from: Mary Tyler Whore on January 16, 2014, 08:23:01 PM
Pretty weak spinning from sfags here.

eh I think it had some merit since people couldn't find it at some point.

how long will that excuse last will be the thing to look out for
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Raban on January 16, 2014, 08:38:26 PM
6/10 of this month's games selling better on One. Xbox gamers better at penetration confirmed.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Himu on January 16, 2014, 08:44:02 PM
What? Not a single x1 exclusive is on top selling sw. Same for ps4. And every title in the top 10 is a multiplat title. Where is the evidence they're selling better on X1?
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Raban on January 16, 2014, 08:46:52 PM
:teehee
spoiler (click to show/hide)
you can't possibly believe I'm being serious
[close]
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Purple Filth on January 16, 2014, 08:47:27 PM
Quote from: Formerly Known As Himuro on January 16, 2014, 08:44:02 PM
What? Not a single x1 exclusive is on top selling sw. Same for ps4. And every title in the top 10 is a multiplat title. Where is the evidence they're selling better on X1?

IIRC

the overall list they are touting is based on next gen game SKUs only.

and the positions are coming from the platform placement in the game title (the first platform listed was the best selling, etc)
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Himu on January 16, 2014, 08:50:44 PM
Oh, I never knew that. I thought they were just listed in random.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Raban on January 16, 2014, 08:51:16 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on January 16, 2014, 08:47:36 PM
Quote from: Formerly Known As Himuro on January 16, 2014, 08:44:02 PM
What? Not a single x1 exclusive is on top selling sw. Same for ps4. And every title in the top 10 is a multiplat title. Where is the evidence they're selling better on X1?

the platform order in the brackets tells you the order of sales on multiplats.  XBO is indeed selling more of most of the multiplat games. 
Is this month's chart indicative of the overall trend tho? It seems like XBO software is moving at a decent clip
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Phoenix Dark on January 16, 2014, 08:52:07 PM
Quote from: Raban on January 16, 2014, 08:51:16 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on January 16, 2014, 08:47:36 PM
Quote from: Formerly Known As Himuro on January 16, 2014, 08:44:02 PM
What? Not a single x1 exclusive is on top selling sw. Same for ps4. And every title in the top 10 is a multiplat title. Where is the evidence they're selling better on X1?

the platform order in the brackets tells you the order of sales on multiplats.  XBO is indeed selling more of most of the multiplat games. 
Is this month's chart indicative of the overall trend tho? It seems like XBO software is moving at a decent clip

Makes sense, Xbone has better titles.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Himu on January 16, 2014, 09:02:30 PM
Didn't ps4 have higher software numbers in Nov npd? Seems they're probably gonna go back and forth for a while?
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Phoenix Dark on January 16, 2014, 09:05:44 PM
Quote
Aaron Greenberg ‏@aarongreenberg 1m
Some good #NPD SW facts: #XboxOne YTD 2013: 4.8M retail games vs. 4.2M for PS4. COD & BF4 both sold better on #XboxOne.
:leon
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Raban on January 16, 2014, 09:08:07 PM
Boom. Penetrated.

Outlook might not be too bad for XBO if they can widen or even just keep that lead.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Huff on January 16, 2014, 09:12:23 PM
@aarongreenberg: Last #NPD fact: 1st/2nd party (exclusives) SW sales for #XboxOne 1.5M units vs. 599K for PS4. Led by Dead Rising, Forza 5 and Ryse.


so sony is selling more 3rd party games
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Himu on January 16, 2014, 09:14:20 PM
It makes sense. If X1 led the ps4 in Dec in HW, it's going to take the lead in SW.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: ManaByte on January 16, 2014, 09:20:11 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/G7aCPQ0.jpg)
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Raban on January 16, 2014, 09:20:57 PM
Quote from: Huff on January 16, 2014, 09:12:23 PM
@aarongreenberg: Last #NPD fact: 1st/2nd party (exclusives) SW sales for #XboxOne 1.5M units vs. 599K for PS4. Led by Dead Rising, Forza 5 and Ryse.


so sony is selling more 3rd party games
Alright, welp. Less to celebrate about, but with another huge XBO exclusive on the way I don't see that gap closing.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Tasty on January 16, 2014, 09:23:52 PM
Meanwhile Nintendo's gap is wide open.  :noah
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: AdmiralViscen on January 16, 2014, 09:25:35 PM
lmfao @ wii U losing the Just Dance sales race to XBone
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Raban on January 16, 2014, 09:26:05 PM
Quote from: Tasty Meat on January 16, 2014, 09:23:52 PM
Meanwhile Nintendo's gap is wide open.  :noah
:kobeyuck
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: pilonv1 on January 16, 2014, 09:57:40 PM
Quote from: Huff on January 16, 2014, 09:12:23 PM
@aarongreenberg: Last #NPD fact: 1st/2nd party (exclusives) SW sales for #XboxOne 1.5M units vs. 599K for PS4. Led by Dead Rising, Forza 5 and Ryse.


so sony is selling more 3rd party games

Considering the first party PS4 games that's not really surprising.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Huff on January 16, 2014, 10:00:02 PM
oh man the vita is super dead. RIP my spelunky machine
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: MCD on January 16, 2014, 10:23:31 PM
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=97401734&postcount=1820

Quote from: creamsugar;97401734
ps4 ltd

cod
800k
600k
bf
550k
ac
500k
450k
2k14
kz
400k
25
300k
nfs
250k
14
200k
KNACK
150k
logo
100k

example: cod>800k, 150k>logo>100k

Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Phoenix Dark on January 16, 2014, 10:32:35 PM
Surprised CoD sold more on PS4 than PS3.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: The Sceneman on January 16, 2014, 10:32:59 PM
surprised you care
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Phoenix Dark on January 16, 2014, 10:50:37 PM
I'm just glad NPD Day has made a comeback. The days of Wii dominance were pretty fucking boring, then 360 dominance got old. Seeing Sony fans implode today warmed my heart on this cold Michigan day.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on January 16, 2014, 10:59:05 PM
not a single store has a single ps4 in astock available for over 200 miles around me, yet I can easily walk into a store and buy 20 xbones if I wanted to. Yet npd says Xbone sells better? uh-huhhhh

anyone who believes the npd in the modern age is a dunce
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Himu on January 16, 2014, 11:06:49 PM
Quote from: MyNameIsMethodis on January 16, 2014, 10:59:05 PM
not a single store has a single ps4 in astock available for over 200 miles around me, yet I can easily walk into a store and buy 20 xbones if I wanted to. Yet npd says Xbone sells better? uh-huhhhh

anyone who believes the npd in the modern age is a dunce

Dude. It means that ps4 has more demand than supply. It is basic math and basic econ.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Human Snorenado on January 16, 2014, 11:15:05 PM
:neogaf implying methodis ever had a touch

Fucker should still be ultra-lepered, demi and joe are some soft ass bitches. (still love you brehs, but COME ON)
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Himu on January 16, 2014, 11:27:38 PM
Methodis doesn't post threads. Why should he be lepered?
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Human Snorenado on January 16, 2014, 11:32:34 PM
To let him know he sucks
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Pringo on January 17, 2014, 12:00:37 AM
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=97410062#post97410062

Wii U ~481,000
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Stoney Mason on January 17, 2014, 12:09:42 AM
Quote from: Pringo on January 17, 2014, 12:00:37 AM
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=97410062#post97410062

Wii U ~481,000

They almost got doubled by a console that costs 500 bucks.

 :ufup
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Tasty on January 17, 2014, 12:11:21 AM
Quote from: Pringo on January 17, 2014, 12:00:37 AM
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=97410062#post97410062

Wii U ~481,000

More than I thought at least.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Pringo on January 17, 2014, 12:17:48 AM
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=97411511#post97411511

PS3 299,000

PS3 sales seem to be falling off really quickly.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: MCD on January 17, 2014, 12:26:09 AM
nm
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Tasty on January 17, 2014, 12:38:15 AM
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=97367510&postcount=407

Wii U's best month.

Momentum™.

Also 3DS best selling for December and all of 2013, called it. Pokemon would deffo be in NPDs if the versions were combined, I reckon...
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Himu on January 17, 2014, 12:40:06 AM
3ds was my most played system of 2013. Well deserved.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Human Snorenado on January 17, 2014, 01:32:58 AM
palpatine good, good pic, etc etc
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Stoney Mason on January 17, 2014, 01:34:16 AM
Quote
Nintendo Cuts Forecasts to Loss of 25B Yen From 55B Yen Profit


Quote
In the year-end sales season which constitutes the highest proportion of the annual sales volume, software sales
with a relatively high margin were significantly lower than our original forecasts mainly due to the fact that
hardware sales did not reach their expected level. As a result, the total of selling, general and administrative
expenses will surpass gross profit, which leads to an operating loss.
The reason why we will post ordinary income despite the operating loss situation is that we now assume that
the yen will be weaker than our original assumptions at the beginning of the fiscal year, which results in foreign
exchange gains.
On the other hand, we expect to post a net loss because we need to reverse deferred tax assets in relation to the
losses carried over from the previous fiscal years mainly in the United States, as we can no longer expect our
financial performance to recover in the current fiscal year.
Exchange rate assumptions for the fourth financial quarter as well as for the end of the full fiscal year have
been revised from 90 yen to 100 yen per U.S. dollar, and from 120 yen to 140 yen per euro in consideration of
the recent exchange rate situation


Nintendo expects 2.8 million Wii-U sales down from 9 million.
Nintendo expects 13.5 million 3DS sales down from 19.5 million.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-01-17/nintendo-forecasts-net-loss-on-stagnating-sales-of-wii-u-games.html
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/01/17/us-nintendo-earnings-idUSBREA0G09M20140117
http://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/pdf/2014/140117e.pdf

 :ufup :ufup :ufup :ufup :ufup :ufup :ufup
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Stoney Mason on January 17, 2014, 01:55:30 AM
I'll be interested in the long term effects. Will this be enough to spur them to actually try to change anything significantly to improve things for the future. I mean real actual change and not just another band-aid.  Because the current future prospects and trajectory are not looking good. 
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Human Snorenado on January 17, 2014, 01:57:32 AM
I don't think they'd know what to do or how to do it, so it really doesn't matter.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Stoney Mason on January 17, 2014, 02:03:20 AM
Quote from: Creepy Old Guy on January 17, 2014, 01:57:32 AM
I don't think they'd know what to do or how to do it, so it really doesn't matter.

We'll I'd agree because they would have already done it, but forecasts like that and their bleak console outlook and the tough competition they will increasingly face on the handheld side should be scary enough for them to be open to a different approach. I mean this whole Wii U debacle everybody and his brother saw from a mile away.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on January 17, 2014, 02:04:52 AM
So PS4 sales are only 50k  behind xbone while being completely sold out?

Poor MS bet on the wrong shit yet again.

Nintendo should be fine when heavy hitters like bayo 2 and x come out.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on January 17, 2014, 02:10:34 AM
US:
PS4: 2 million
Xbox One:1,817,000

UK:
PS4: 530,000
Xbox One: 364,000

Spain:
PS4:157,000
Xbox One:35,000

France:
PS4:100k *first 2 weeks
Xbox One 50k* first 3 weeks*

AU:
Xbox One:65,917*first 3 days*

Germany:
PS4 250K
Xbox One 100K
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: pilonv1 on January 17, 2014, 02:11:16 AM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on January 17, 2014, 01:44:47 AM
can't wait for Fire Emblem on a Steam Sale

:rejoice
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Stoney Mason on January 17, 2014, 02:16:28 AM
Quote
Nintendo President Satoshi Iwata will hold a news conference at 4:30 p.m. (0730 GMT) in Osaka regarding the estimated losses.

Now there's a "Nintendo Direct" I actually want to watch.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on January 17, 2014, 02:22:22 AM
Iwata gone.

Wii u price drop.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: pilonv1 on January 17, 2014, 02:22:55 AM
Hopefully this really does mean the end of itprintsmoney.gif
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on January 17, 2014, 02:43:11 AM
So even more mario and zelda?

They will run their ips further into the ground
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Tasty on January 17, 2014, 03:02:44 AM
Disney keeps trying every couple years to get a leg up on gaming but they always finish after a few weak humps and give up. Next time they could just buy Nintendo.

Then we'd have Mario in Kingdom Hearts. :rejoice
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on January 17, 2014, 03:03:31 AM
Star Wars Mario World.

Darth Wario.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Human Snorenado on January 17, 2014, 03:10:53 AM
Quote from: Lagerless on January 17, 2014, 02:04:52 AM
Nintendo should be fine when heavy hitters like bayo 2 and x come out.

Son, you have gone full distinguished mentally-challenged fellow.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on January 17, 2014, 03:46:17 AM
Its funded by Nintendo so I don't think so.

Quote from: Creepy Old Guy on January 17, 2014, 03:10:53 AM
Quote from: Lagerless on January 17, 2014, 02:04:52 AM
Nintendo should be fine when heavy hitters like bayo 2 and x come out.

Son, you have gone full distinguished mentally-challenged fellow.

Not sure if you're serious or just double bluffing my troll.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: SantaC on January 17, 2014, 04:05:54 AM
Quote from: Lagerless on January 17, 2014, 02:43:11 AM
So even more mario and zelda?

They will run their ips further into the ground

remember how special it was with a new Mario and Zelda game? Now not so much. That's because Nintendo usually took their sweet time working on their new game, now they just fart them out. Atleast the Mario games.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: cool breeze on January 17, 2014, 04:08:40 AM
will the definitive edition of smash bros u be on ps4/xb1 or will nintendo also publish on pc? 
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: SantaC on January 17, 2014, 04:13:55 AM
Quote from: fryinghigh on January 17, 2014, 04:08:40 AM
will the definitive edition of smash bros u be on ps4/xb1 or will nintendo also publish on pc?

one less platform to buy? Sign me up.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on January 17, 2014, 04:34:19 AM
Maybe someone will port it and make it a PSN/XBL game?
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on January 17, 2014, 04:43:05 AM
No Bayonetta in the west would make for a saltmine on GAF, prob more fun then playing the game
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on January 17, 2014, 04:52:34 AM
At least Sega went out with the Dreamcast.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on January 17, 2014, 05:08:06 AM
I still feel blue for not buying the dc, but sega lost credit with me after the saturn which was my first 32 bit system.

Sure it was great, but it really had too little support and it was impossible to find games in Holland for it as shops dropped it.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on January 17, 2014, 05:19:30 AM
Sega Rally is probably the pinnacle of the arcade racing game genre, Daytona (CCE) was no slouch either.

Remember playing those tracks to DEATH to improve my times.

I don't want to sound like a nostalgia tard, but 32 bit gen is my favourite, not that I would want to play those games now though. Although I do live the online aspect we got in the 128 bit gen and that matured now (and was on PC already since 2000).
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: radioheadrule83 on January 17, 2014, 06:43:45 AM
Quote from: Stoney Mason on January 17, 2014, 01:55:30 AM
I'll be interested in the long term effects. Will this be enough to spur them to actually try to change anything significantly to improve things for the future. I mean real actual change and not just another band-aid.  Because the current future prospects and trajectory are not looking good.

Part of me wonders why they deliberately left it this late to revise down HW sale expectations, I don't believe for a minute that they really thought Christmas through March would bring them 6m+ sales. Maybe they did but I dunno. The cynic / conspiracy theorist in me says they never did really want to spend the money required (this financial year) to turn Wii U around, they took a bath on 3DS just last year. Its never really had proper advertising in the sense that former consoles have, they seemed to care more about 3DS (which I imagine brings in more profit long term, providing they can continue to boost that business)... My gut is starting to say that they've seen a buyback or something down the road (Yamauchi family shares?), wanted to change strategy anyway, and are using bad results to deliberately drive the price down and justify some seismic change.

One area where I think they've really fucked up in the last year is just assuming their old retail partners would want to keep carrying their stuff. Its one thing to think you can do without the likes of EA (crazy in itself), but its quite another to expect shops to sit on shit-loads of inventory and not reduce your shelf-space to a square metre. I think NCL is really too far removed from what's going on in Europe too. They are disappearing from the UK retail scene completely, and there is no way online shops or digital sales can pick up the slack.

If this forces some diversification and some inventive new ideas from them, all the better we'll be for it.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on January 17, 2014, 06:44:06 AM
Good online.

Rainbow Six and Midtown Madness Xbox  :rejoice
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on January 17, 2014, 06:56:03 AM
Nintendo's solution: MOAR MARIO

I said in a different thread elsewhere but if you love Mario, the Wii U is going to be the system for you.  At least that means we might be more likely to get Galaxy 3.  I wouldn't be too shocked if we get Sunshine HD and Mario 64 HD.  The latter sold 10 million on DS, they can probably rope 2-3 million people to get a HD release of the game.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: archie4208 on January 17, 2014, 06:58:06 AM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on January 17, 2014, 12:48:47 AM
so, yeah, hardware numbers only saw a minor rise from last year in spite of the two extra consoles, and software is down.  and last year wasn't any prize pig, either.

dumed.

Now is a good time to install Steam if you haven't already.  :gaben
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: pilonv1 on January 17, 2014, 07:01:03 AM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on January 17, 2014, 02:42:07 AM
Quote from: pilonv1 on January 17, 2014, 02:11:16 AM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on January 17, 2014, 01:44:47 AM
can't wait for Fire Emblem on a Steam Sale

:rejoice

pff, my prediction entails nintendo moving to a market with cheaper games with low budget and iterative sequels making tons of cash.

your way requires them to understand the overseas market and make HD games that can run on a variety of configurations and have proper internet functionality.

i'm betting on oscar here.

I never said that's what they would do, it's what I'd like them to do.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Third on January 17, 2014, 07:25:12 AM
Damn, Ps4 is still the best selling nextgen console in the NA. Even being severely supply constrained.

January should be terrible for MS. The demand isn't there anymore and we should expect a lot of returned Xbox U consoles from burned scalpers.

MS should reduce the price asap.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on January 17, 2014, 08:24:16 AM
There are better things to repost from GAF Borys
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: radioheadrule83 on January 17, 2014, 09:16:57 AM
Quote from: Exodust SoulBurn on January 17, 2014, 09:12:44 AM
POLACK FIGHT

(http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view/1036032/race-war-announcement-o.gif)
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Tasty on January 17, 2014, 10:08:12 AM
Quote from: Mary Tyler Whore on January 17, 2014, 06:56:03 AM
Nintendo's solution: MOAR MARIO

I said in a different thread elsewhere but if you love Mario, the Wii U is going to be the system for you.  At least that means we might be more likely to get Galaxy 3.  I wouldn't be too shocked if we get Sunshine HD and Mario 64 HD.  The latter sold 10 million on DS, they can probably rope 2-3 million people to get a HD release of the game.

The Mario stuff has felt stale for a while, basically ever since Galaxy 2. SM3DL, NSMB2, NSMBU, and SM3DW all within two years? I love Mario platformers more than the average Joe but even I think it's too much.

Now, Twilight Princess HD? The thought of that is boner inducing. :aah
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Himu on January 17, 2014, 10:36:00 AM
Dremacast is Sega's best console with its best first party games. Saturn is great, but most of its library requires imports. That single handedly cripples it and takes it down a few notches. Saturn is above Genesis however. The problem with DC is that every game on the system aside from a very short list were ported. Thus making it have little value these days. Saturn has much more value in 2014.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Himu on January 17, 2014, 11:23:52 AM
And proud!
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Mr. Gundam on January 17, 2014, 11:31:43 AM
The Dreamcast has better 1st party titles, but Saturn has some killer 1st party and is godly for the amount of 3rd party games.

Also, importing is easy and should not discredit the system.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Himu on January 17, 2014, 11:37:10 AM
I think the better first party titles puts it ahead the third party titles. That said, Saturn does have great third party. But I prefer the first party of the DC.

And I don't think Importing discredits Saturn, but like, you're talking about hardware, and the person admits that you need to import from another country to get the full experience, it kind of takes away from the argument, no? I can't think of any other system where people say,"_____ is best _____, but only if you import." Gauging hardware just doesn't work like that and Saturn is the lone exception. Other systems stand on their own merits of localized software. Basically, importing should ENHANCE a systems library. It shouldn't be required to actually enjoy it.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Tasty on January 17, 2014, 01:02:54 PM
Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate - 93K (Wii U)
Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate - 224K (3DS)

MH3U sold 317,000 copies in America this year. Considering that doesn't count digital, I don't think that's too bad. It's probably slightly less than half of Tri's US LTD, although I don't know if it got there on strong legs or what.

Then again, Ultimate is on two systems while Tri wasn't, which is a knock against the sales. I'm not sure it would have sold better on any other combination of two systems, though.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: hampster on January 17, 2014, 01:25:45 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on January 17, 2014, 05:09:19 AM
Saturn was their best console.  If it didn't appeal to you, I question your alleged SEGA fan credentials.

The Toy r Us guy talked me out of a Saturn and into getting a PS1 back in the day. I often wonder how different my life would have been if I stuck to my sega fandom. But the 32X hurt and at the time I didn't want to forgive...
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Himu on January 17, 2014, 01:27:54 PM
I was talked out of Saturn too. Nomad :lol 32x :lol Game Gear :lol
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: hampster on January 17, 2014, 01:31:00 PM
Quote from: Formerly Known As Himuro on January 17, 2014, 01:27:54 PM
I was talked out of Saturn too. Nomad :lol 32x :lol Game Gear :lol

I won't let anyone talk shit about the game gear >:( I played that baby until the light blub burned out, then I opened it up and shoved a flashlight in there and kept going :pimp

spoiler (click to show/hide)
99% of my time with it was the tv tuner :-\
[close]
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Himu on January 17, 2014, 01:34:24 PM
I had GG before GB and GG was okay. Sonic games sucked except..uh...Triple Trouble? I had an X-men game on GG. It sucked balls. Outrun Game Gear kicked ass. Outrun Europa Game Gear, holy shit kill me. Fatal Fury Game Gear is probably still the best portable fighting game I've played though. GG was only tolerable because as kids, we didn't have as defined tastes. But going through 3ds VC list, jesus christ.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Eel O'Brian on January 17, 2014, 01:36:01 PM
I sold the Nomad I bought for $50 on a Toys 'R Us clearance for a crazy profit on ebay a few years back. I want to say I got like $250 for it and a handful of games.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Himu on January 17, 2014, 01:40:57 PM
My friend had a nomad. by the time 1997 rolled around people with saturns were laughed at. I didn't want to be laughed at. :(
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Mr. Gundam on January 17, 2014, 01:41:39 PM
If you had to choose between the two, PS1 was the way to go.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Eel O'Brian on January 17, 2014, 01:44:33 PM
Quote from: Formerly Known As Himuro on January 17, 2014, 01:40:57 PM
My friend had a nomad. by the time 1997 rolled around people with saturns were laughed at. I didn't want to be laughed at. :(

You didn't miss much. Battery life was terrible (like 1.5 hours max), screen was a ghosting blurry mess. I think I played with it for a total of about 4 hours before I threw it back in the box and it went into the closet until I checked ebay and found out it was worth actual money.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Himu on January 17, 2014, 01:51:38 PM
I played his Nomad twice, and I thought it was heavy as shit for a handheld especially with a genny cart in it.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Raban on January 17, 2014, 01:55:23 PM
"Nomad" still has to be the best name for a portable gaming system, even though the Sega Nomad really stretched the definition of "portable".
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: cool breeze on January 17, 2014, 01:55:56 PM
I had a friend who kept his nomad hooked up to his TV  :wtf

tbh the idea was cool at the time to those of us with the gameboy but no one wanted it.  you always had that one friend in your group who'd buy these weirder systems.  one friend tried to sell me on an atari lynx.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Third on January 17, 2014, 01:56:56 PM
Xbox1 908k
Ps4 865k

MS barely outsold a supply constrained console....
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Himu on January 17, 2014, 01:57:32 PM
I remember when sega was trying to market comix zone and nomad at the same time. How did Comix Zone sell in comparison to the Nomad?

Quote from: fryinghigh on January 17, 2014, 01:55:56 PM
I had a friend who kept his nomad hooked up to his TV  :wtf

tbh the idea was cool at the time to those of us with the gameboy but no one wanted it.  you always had that one friend in your group who'd buy these weirder systems.  one friend tried to sell me on an atari lynx.

One kid got a Virtual Boy and brought it recess once.

Emphasis on once.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: cool breeze on January 17, 2014, 02:04:38 PM
every kid had a virtual boy at some point.  you could pick it up for ~$50 with games during the fire sales and it became the gift of choice.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Himu on January 17, 2014, 02:05:59 PM
Every kid haha. I was concentrating on game boy by then. game boy pocket 8) :bow
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: hampster on January 17, 2014, 02:09:36 PM
Kingdom Hearts 1.5 sold over 400,000 in 2013 ??? Makes you wonder what that franchise could have been if it wasn't so mishandled.  Sora :'(
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Himu on January 17, 2014, 02:12:18 PM
S-E's treatment of KH is just a giant fucking question mark.

God I miss Kingdom Hearts. :(
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Himu on January 17, 2014, 02:20:05 PM
KH2 is way way worse than KH1.

It is known.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Tasty on January 17, 2014, 02:20:15 PM
Quote from: hampster on January 17, 2014, 02:09:36 PM
Kingdom Hearts 1.5 sold over 400,000 in 2013 ??? Makes you wonder what that franchise could have been if it wasn't so mishandled.  Sora :'(

I dunno, 400k sounds really good to me for a 1. A JRPG, and 2. HD "collection" that doesn't even include the second numbered game.
Title: ALTERNATE RESPONSE
Post by: Tasty on January 17, 2014, 02:21:05 PM
Quote from: hampster on January 17, 2014, 02:09:36 PM
Kingdom Hearts 1.5 sold over 400,000 in 2013 ??? Makes you wonder what that franchise could have been if it wasn't so mishandled.  Sora :'(

(http://i.imgur.com/wnP8rga.jpg)
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Joe Molotov on January 17, 2014, 02:23:44 PM
Quote from: Tasty Meat on January 17, 2014, 02:20:15 PM
Quote from: hampster on January 17, 2014, 02:09:36 PM
Kingdom Hearts 1.5 sold over 400,000 in 2013 ??? Makes you wonder what that franchise could have been if it wasn't so mishandled.  Sora :'(

I dunno, 400k sounds really good to me for a 1. A JRPG, and 2. HD "collection" that doesn't even include the second numbered game.

That's the point.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Tasty on January 17, 2014, 02:29:10 PM
Quote from: Esch on January 17, 2014, 02:26:30 PM
i hate you andrex

(http://i.imgur.com/fZG76mn.png)
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Tasty on January 17, 2014, 02:32:37 PM
Quote from: Joe Molotov on January 17, 2014, 02:23:44 PM
Quote from: Tasty Meat on January 17, 2014, 02:20:15 PM
Quote from: hampster on January 17, 2014, 02:09:36 PM
Kingdom Hearts 1.5 sold over 400,000 in 2013 ??? Makes you wonder what that franchise could have been if it wasn't so mishandled.  Sora :'(

I dunno, 400k sounds really good to me for a 1. A JRPG, and 2. HD "collection" that doesn't even include the second numbered game.

That's the point.

I don't see what the problem is then? KH3 will likely sell great. Who cares?
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Joe Molotov on January 17, 2014, 03:07:05 PM
People that wanted KH3 to be released sometime within the past or current decades?
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Tasty on January 17, 2014, 03:16:31 PM
Don't BBS and DDD have better battle systems anyways? :hitler
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Human Snorenado on January 17, 2014, 03:24:33 PM
KH  :yuck
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Rahxephon91 on January 17, 2014, 03:45:17 PM
Don't really like KH1. KH2 was flashy and had a lack of depth and abilities, but it was was at least fun to play since the combat didn't feel like crap. BBS had a cool ability system if I remember and the three protags had some cool gimmicks. Never played the DS games, because they're on well the ......DS systems.

Eh. Really they kind of blend together at this point. I'd probably play KH3, but also don't really care if it ever comes out.

But clearly KH3 should do alright. It's going to be on both systems as well so maybe that will help.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Himu on January 17, 2014, 03:54:22 PM
Quote from: Tasty Meat on January 17, 2014, 02:20:15 PM
Quote from: hampster on January 17, 2014, 02:09:36 PM
Kingdom Hearts 1.5 sold over 400,000 in 2013 ??? Makes you wonder what that franchise could have been if it wasn't so mishandled.  Sora :'(

I dunno, 400k sounds really good to me for a 1. A JRPG, and 2. HD "collection" that doesn't even include the second numbered game.

KH isn't just a jrpg. KH is one of the trifecta: FF, Poke, and KH. These are the only jrpgs that sell well in NA.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Third on January 17, 2014, 05:40:46 PM
Can't believe that KH 2 was released almost one decade ago. And there's still no sequel.

SE could've made crazy money by releasing more main games, but instead they've released one crappy KH spinoff after another. Yeah, even BBS sucked ass.

SE ruined the franchise. I'm not interested in it anymore. Same happened to FF after the horrible FFXIII games. SE, you fucking suck.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Tasty on January 17, 2014, 06:02:43 PM
KH3 is being made by the same team that did BBS and 3D, so if you thought BBS was a crap spinoff that didn't matter, I've got some bad news.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Steve Contra on January 17, 2014, 06:04:30 PM
2016, the year that we wonder where KH3 is and whether it's ever going to come out
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: MCD on January 17, 2014, 06:05:05 PM
Dead Rsing 3 sold 526K, Forza 5 457K and Ryse 431K

https://mobile.twitter.com/aarongreenberg/status/423998958591946752
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Steve Contra on January 17, 2014, 06:45:27 PM
Yes, you're not old enough to be a real Sega fan anyway.   Sooooooooooooooooory.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Mupepe on January 17, 2014, 07:06:47 PM
Quote from: MCD on January 17, 2014, 06:05:05 PM
Dead Rsing 3 sold 526K, Forza 5 457K and Ryse 431K

https://mobile.twitter.com/aarongreenberg/status/423998958591946752
do we know how much DR3 sold in November? It really deserves to do well and it seems like it is.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on January 17, 2014, 07:07:52 PM
Really decent sw numbers for those games.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Phoenix Dark on January 17, 2014, 07:12:18 PM
Quote from: Mupepe on January 17, 2014, 07:06:47 PM
Quote from: MCD on January 17, 2014, 06:05:05 PM
Dead Rsing 3 sold 526K, Forza 5 457K and Ryse 431K

https://mobile.twitter.com/aarongreenberg/status/423998958591946752
do we know how much DR3 sold in November? It really deserves to do well and it seems like it is.

iirc more than 220k, but not 300k. Someone in the current NPD thread had the exact number.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Raban on January 17, 2014, 07:34:27 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on January 17, 2014, 07:23:05 PM
Quote from: Lagerless on January 17, 2014, 07:07:52 PM
Really decent sw numbers for those games.

yeah, dead rising looks like it's on pace to sell as well as the first one, rather than the kind of dumpy sales on the second.  forza's doing pretty much par for the series.  ryse didn't bomb, so i guess it wins the battle vs Knack.

i have to wonder what the budgets look like for these games vs last gen, though.  common sense would say they cost more to make, and if that's the case, selling flat vs last gen's numbers isn't going to cut it.
Yeah I can't imagine these games are successful in a profit sense. Still though, I bet Capcom Vancouver is very pleased with DR3. They made a damn good launch game and it paid off.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Steve Contra on January 17, 2014, 07:37:49 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on January 17, 2014, 07:36:17 PM
oooh look at me, i'm such a hardcore sega fan, i like the dreamcast and sonic the hedgehog games
He probably doesn't even draw erotic Tails fan-art :maf
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on January 17, 2014, 07:41:16 PM
I dont think the budgets went up actually for most games.

Still the same tools as last gen, just now devs can set things to pc "high" settings.

No real reason why costs should increase. They might even drop for most games due to middleware being mature.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Steve Contra on January 17, 2014, 07:42:35 PM
They definitely went up.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on January 17, 2014, 07:47:06 PM
Quote
With PS3 and Xbox 360, cost of development saw a significant increase from the previous generation. Now next-gen's on the horizon, and many are anticipating another big bump up in costs (Epic's Tim Sweeney said a few months ago that costs could double). If you ask Hermen Hulst, managing director at Killzone developer Guerilla Games, however, next-gen shouldn't be a burden on developers' bottom line.

Speaking as part of a first-party developer roundtable attended by GamesIndustry International immediately following the PS4 reveal, Hulst noted that while costs are going up on PS4, it's not as dramatic as some would have thought. For example, on Killzone 1 and 2, team sizes maxed out at 125, he said, and for the new Killzone Shadow Fall on PS4, the team is now at 150 people.

http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2013-02-21-ps4-devs-speak-up-on-costs-not-as-scary-as-some-led-you-to-believe

And this is for a flagship graphical showcase game that was rushed for launch.

Most games shouldnt see a rise so.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Steve Contra on January 17, 2014, 07:49:07 PM
Yes, definitely take the word of first party developer on the costs of developing a game for the PS4tm
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Steve Contra on January 17, 2014, 07:52:51 PM
And even if you take a look at that number, the costs would be approximately 20% higher just on team size alone, not to mention how much they shifted onto outsourcing companies and the time spent getting an engine up and running.  So flat sales, 20% increase in costs, sounds like a winner to me.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Steve Contra on January 17, 2014, 08:01:00 PM
Quote from: Esch on January 17, 2014, 07:59:41 PM
No true Sega fan, eh :neogaf
To be fair, you kind of have to have owned a Saturn to call yourself a Sega fan.  Otherwise you're probably a furry.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: brob on January 17, 2014, 08:04:33 PM
How did the Saturn do in Europe? I don't think I've ever seen one in the flesh.

edit: wikipedia says it was moribund before the N64 even launched. Oh well.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Himu on January 17, 2014, 08:08:47 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on January 17, 2014, 07:36:17 PM
oooh look at me, i'm such a hardcore sega fan, i like the dreamcast and sonic the hedgehog games

Sonic. :beli

You dare utter those words. :meltzer
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Himu on January 17, 2014, 08:15:50 PM
What happened to :meltzer
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Himu on January 17, 2014, 08:28:43 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on January 17, 2014, 08:19:07 PM
Quote from: Formerly Known As Himuro on January 17, 2014, 08:15:50 PM
What happened to :meltzer

:umad

:lol
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Joe Molotov on January 17, 2014, 09:22:38 PM
Go easy on the babies, Oscar.  :wag
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Raban on January 17, 2014, 10:04:21 PM
God I love this thread :aah
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Tasty on January 17, 2014, 10:09:49 PM
Quote from: Exodust SoulBurn on January 17, 2014, 09:53:28 PM
I knew it, but fuck it. I'm sick of every response here being a troll, so I'll just answer how I feel like, whether I fell for it or not.

:umad
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Yeti on January 17, 2014, 10:15:17 PM
Dreamcast was the only Sega system ever worth owning.

But then, I am not a Sega fan.  8)
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Joe Molotov on January 17, 2014, 10:22:21 PM
The Genny was the best, and then Sega screwed the pooch that laid the golden eggs and consequences were never the same.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Tasty on January 17, 2014, 10:31:58 PM
Quote from: Joe Molotov on January 17, 2014, 10:22:21 PM
The Genny was the best, and then Sega screwed the pooch that laid the golden eggs and consequences were never the same.

Poor Naka-san. :'(
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on January 17, 2014, 11:04:20 PM
I thought the Genesis was fucking garbage :yeshrug
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Positive Touch on January 18, 2014, 12:20:38 AM
genesis had some hidden gems but the super nintendo was clearly where all the awesome innovation was back then
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Human Snorenado on January 18, 2014, 12:25:18 AM
Phantasy Star II and IV are objectively better than any jrpg on the SNES. That includes FF IV, VI, and yes, ChronoTrigger. Shit, Shining Force I and II are fucking classics too. Genesis has an incredible library. Plus, REAL BLOOD IN MORTAL KOMBAT II YOU PUSSIES.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Positive Touch on January 18, 2014, 12:31:16 AM
the pain is so real
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Yeti on January 18, 2014, 01:17:30 AM
SNES Mortal Kombat II had real blood in it. It was the first one that didn't.

And if you really wanted to wound my old nintard allegiances you would mention the superior Genesis version of Aladdin.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: tiesto on January 18, 2014, 01:55:41 AM
Quote from: Yeti on January 18, 2014, 01:17:30 AM
SNES Mortal Kombat II had real blood in it. It was the first one that didn't.

And if you really wanted to wound my old nintard allegiances you would mention the superior Genesis version of Aladdin.

I haven't played the SNES Aladdin, but the Genesis one doesn't quite hold up. The animation still looks great to this day, but the hit detection is all kinds of fucked. Enemies don't react when you swing your sword at them either.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Himu on January 18, 2014, 01:59:09 AM
They do. You just mash it. It's always been like that.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: tiesto on January 18, 2014, 02:00:30 AM
Quote from: Creepy Old Guy on January 18, 2014, 12:25:18 AM
Phantasy Star II and IV are objectively better than any jrpg on the SNES. That includes FF IV, VI, and yes, ChronoTrigger. Shit, Shining Force I and II are fucking classics too. Genesis has an incredible library. Plus, REAL BLOOD IN MORTAL KOMBAT II YOU PUSSIES.

Agreed and their shmup/action lineup was quite awesome too. Shinobi 3, Streets of Rage 1-2, Ranger-X, Alien Soldier, Gunstar Heroes, Gaiares, the Thunder Force series, MUSHA. Also good action RPGs like Crusader of Centy and Landstalker.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Himu on January 18, 2014, 02:41:05 AM
Fucking ALIEN STORM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fnKZWPzjzkg
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: magus on January 18, 2014, 06:30:42 AM
Quote from: Creepy Old Guy on January 18, 2014, 12:25:18 AM
Phantasy Star II and IV are objectively better than any jrpg on the SNES. That includes FF IV, VI, and yes, ChronoTrigger. Shit, Shining Force I and II are fucking classics too. Genesis has an incredible library. Plus, REAL BLOOD IN MORTAL KOMBAT II YOU PUSSIES.

MADNESS!
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Rufus on January 18, 2014, 06:33:20 AM
Quote from: Brobzoid on January 17, 2014, 08:04:33 PM
How did the Saturn do in Europe? I don't think I've ever seen one in the flesh.

edit: wikipedia says it was moribund before the N64 even launched. Oh well.
I vaguely remember seeing the logo, but I didn't know what it was until much later. I think they had a weird, nonsensical advertising campaign.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: archnemesis on January 18, 2014, 07:08:54 AM
The Saturn was mentioned in our European gaming magazines but I've never seen one in person. One of my local museums should have one in their current exhibition (not a joke).
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: archnemesis on January 18, 2014, 07:15:30 AM
The Master System and the Mega Drive were probably more popular over here though.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on January 18, 2014, 07:37:35 AM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on January 18, 2014, 07:10:31 AM
awesome, my cool kids club has no europeans in it

this is like a dream come true

I bought it in a toystore just fine at launch :)
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Great Rumbler on January 18, 2014, 09:34:07 AM
Sonic the Hedgehog 2 > Any Mario game on SNES

Deal with, America.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on January 18, 2014, 09:57:43 AM
Mega Drive had Sonic 1,2,3 and Sonic and Knuckles.

Meanwhile Snes only got Mario World
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: D3RANG3D on January 18, 2014, 10:04:14 AM
Yoshi's Island>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Sonic 1,2,3 and Sonic and Knuckles

spoiler (click to show/hide)
:miyamoto
[close]
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Raban on January 18, 2014, 10:09:04 AM
Anywhere else on the internet, NPD will make people argue about the current console wars. On The Bore it's still Nintendo v. Sega. Get over it you crusty old fucks :lol
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Human Snorenado on January 18, 2014, 10:32:51 AM
GET OFF MY LAWN
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Rufus on January 18, 2014, 11:03:40 AM
Quote from: archnemesis on January 18, 2014, 07:15:30 AM
The Master System and the Mega Drive were probably more popular over here though.
Yeah, I did play Sonic on a Mega Drive - and nothing else. :lol Never owned the console myself. I also had access to a Master System with some built-in game (?) but I forget what it was. The next thing Sega I took notice of was a Dreamcast kios running Ecco the Dolphin and it looked pretty amazing to me at the time. The Saturn might as well not have existed.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Fifstar on January 18, 2014, 11:25:04 AM
I think I knew one person who had a Mega Drive. There was a lot of coverage of Sega in magazines that I read, but I rarely saw the games and console in toystores. Consoles wise it was all about Nintendo until Sony came. Overall of course much more people played PC games over here.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: AdmiralViscen on January 18, 2014, 01:29:03 PM
SNES > Genesis
My feces > Yoshi's Island
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Purple Filth on January 18, 2014, 01:40:35 PM
 :lol @ the SEGA circlejerk on the last few pages
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Positive Touch on January 18, 2014, 02:21:28 PM
Quote from: AdmiralViscen on January 18, 2014, 01:29:03 PM

My feces > Yoshi's Island

 :comeon people on this board have some severe mental issues, obviously
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Great Rumbler on January 18, 2014, 04:13:57 PM
Quote from: Purple Filth on January 18, 2014, 01:40:35 PM
:lol @ the SEGA circlejerk on the last few pages

Shut up, Nintard.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Human Snorenado on January 18, 2014, 04:14:44 PM
I don't know, I once dropped a turd that had to be 18" unbroken, that has to be more impressive than any video game. I've tried to duplicate the exact food and environmental situations that led to such a momentous occasion, but all for naught.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Himu on January 18, 2014, 04:46:10 PM
18"?!
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Human Snorenado on January 18, 2014, 05:10:15 PM
Quote from: Formerly Known As Himuro on January 18, 2014, 04:46:10 PM
18"?!

I hadn't crapped in like three days.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Raban on January 18, 2014, 05:18:04 PM
Three pages of childish fanboy wars and now we're talking about poop, when did the sales thread become a middle school playground in the early 90s? Go do this in the GAF thread :snoop
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Human Snorenado on January 18, 2014, 05:23:53 PM
I think this topic and thread are getting treated in the appropriate manner.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on January 18, 2014, 05:26:24 PM
I had more fun taking an epic dump than I have with most Nintendo games made in the past 5 years
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: magus on January 18, 2014, 05:27:48 PM
Quote from: Raban on January 18, 2014, 05:18:04 PM
Three pages of childish fanboy wars and now we're talking about poop, when did the sales thread become a middle school playground in the early 90s? Go do this in the GAF thread :snoop

i don't know... 3 pages of people talking about dumps clearly beats 37 page's of talking about iwata
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Raban on January 18, 2014, 05:29:50 PM
I guess I'll just leave until next month's NPD :shaq2
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Human Snorenado on January 18, 2014, 05:30:30 PM
Quote from: Mary Tyler Whore on January 18, 2014, 05:26:24 PM
I had more fun taking an epic dump than I have with most Nintendo games made in the past 5 years

:neogaf And yet you RE WII U'D
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: AdmiralViscen on January 18, 2014, 05:31:27 PM
Quote from: Raban on January 18, 2014, 05:18:04 PM
Three pages of childish fanboy wars and now we're talking about poop, when did the sales thread become a middle school playground in the early 90s? Go do this in the GAF thread :snoop

What have we done with the sanctity of the sales thread!
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Himu on January 18, 2014, 05:38:25 PM
Oh no! People having fun and talking shit - literally!
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Raban on January 18, 2014, 05:44:44 PM
I guess going wildly off topic isn't new for The Bore, I was just really digging how mature and analytical things were earlier, and as if to cut the pressure you guys come in here and shit it up.

Whatever, I'm just gonna go rub myself over sales numbers and stop giving a shit :goty2
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: AdmiralViscen on January 18, 2014, 05:45:52 PM
Quote from: Raban on January 18, 2014, 05:44:44 PM
I guess going wildly off topic isn't new for The Bore, I was just really digging how mature and analytical things were earlier, and as if to cut the pressure you guys come in here and shit it up.

Whatever, I'm just gonna go rub myself over sales numbers and stop giving a shit :goty2

Nintendo shareholder report on the 26th or 30th or something will enliven discussion
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Himu on January 18, 2014, 05:49:24 PM
There just isn't much to talk about now but speculate, and we've done a plenty of that in the Iwata thread. The numbers weren't too enlightening from Dec NPD either. There's nothing to talk about now. The sales thread has traditionally been up and down because numbers and discussion comes and goes.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Raban on January 18, 2014, 05:50:26 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on January 18, 2014, 05:47:12 PM
There's nothing else to discuss sales-wise for the current set of numbers. 
I know, I just didn't know that meant open season for multiple pages :lol real talk I think it's funny I just kinda wish it wasn't in this thread
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Positive Touch on January 18, 2014, 05:52:12 PM
were you one of those kids that only owned an n64
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Tasty on January 18, 2014, 05:54:03 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on January 18, 2014, 05:47:12 PM
There's nothing else to discuss sales-wise for the current set of numbers.

Do you think MH3U sold well? Is MH4 coming over?

I mean if fucking Bravely Default and Conception 2 can make it over... I know they're not Capcom games, but come on...
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Raban on January 18, 2014, 05:55:07 PM
Quote from: Positive Touch on January 18, 2014, 05:52:12 PM
were you one of those kids that only owned an n64
Haha nooooo... >_>

<_<

*runs away*
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Himu on January 18, 2014, 05:56:22 PM
Quote from: Tasty Meat on January 18, 2014, 05:54:03 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on January 18, 2014, 05:47:12 PM
There's nothing else to discuss sales-wise for the current set of numbers.

Do you think MH3U sold well? Is MH4 coming over?

I mean if fucking Bravely Default and Conception 2 can make it over... I know they're not Capcom games, but come on...

MH4 will come. MH3U did well and Monster Hunter fans are platform agnostic.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on January 18, 2014, 05:57:50 PM
I was an N64 only owner.

We were poor so the only time I got any money was from birthdays and Christmas, which was usually enough to buy 2-3 used games a year.  I'd just play those games over and over again and got very good at Mario Kart and Starfox compared to the scores/times I was seeing on the internet.  It was still pretty boring but without money, there wasn't shit I could do.  Then I discovered ZSNES and soon I was playing games on emulators instead of replaying Mario 64 for the umpteenth time.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Positive Touch on January 18, 2014, 06:26:45 PM
Quote from: Mary Tyler Whore on January 18, 2014, 05:57:50 PM
I was an N64 only owner.

We were poor so the only time I got any money was from birthdays and Christmas, which was usually enough to buy 2-3 used games a year.  I'd just play those games over and over again and got very good at Mario Kart and Starfox compared to the scores/times I was seeing on the internet.  It was still pretty boring but without money, there wasn't shit I could do.  Then I discovered ZSNES and soon I was playing games on emulators instead of replaying Mario 64 for the umpteenth time.

i would get a new game every christmas, but in between my dad would surprise me with whatever was in the marshall's bargain bin. ended up with some infamous nes classics like golgo 13 and base wars that way :lol
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Tasty on January 18, 2014, 07:34:49 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on January 18, 2014, 05:59:52 PM

Quote from: Tasty Meat on January 18, 2014, 05:54:03 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on January 18, 2014, 05:47:12 PM
There's nothing else to discuss sales-wise for the current set of numbers.

Do you think MH3U sold well? Is MH4 coming over?


Not particularly, but yes.  Sales weren't bad enough to give up on the series and 3DS is as healthy as any system right now.

:rejoice
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: tiesto on January 18, 2014, 09:09:56 PM
Quote from: Positive Touch on January 18, 2014, 06:26:45 PM
Quote from: Mary Tyler Whore on January 18, 2014, 05:57:50 PM
I was an N64 only owner.

We were poor so the only time I got any money was from birthdays and Christmas, which was usually enough to buy 2-3 used games a year.  I'd just play those games over and over again and got very good at Mario Kart and Starfox compared to the scores/times I was seeing on the internet.  It was still pretty boring but without money, there wasn't shit I could do.  Then I discovered ZSNES and soon I was playing games on emulators instead of replaying Mario 64 for the umpteenth time.

i would get a new game every christmas, but in between my dad would surprise me with whatever was in the marshall's bargain bin. ended up with some infamous nes classics like golgo 13 and base wars that way :lol

Had no idea Marshall's carried games... I've never seen them there myself.

:bow Golgo 13 :bow2
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Positive Touch on January 18, 2014, 09:56:33 PM
well this was almost 25 years ago so...
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Rahxephon91 on January 18, 2014, 10:43:17 PM
Quote from: Positive Touch on January 18, 2014, 05:52:12 PM
were you one of those kids that only owned an n64
I was. Probably the reason I don't like Nintendo. I hate the system outside of Goldeneye and Perfect Dark. Once I got a PS2, gaming became pretty awesome.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: MCD on January 19, 2014, 01:12:31 AM
PS1 and N64 is where I truly started my gaming faggotry. I was too young to remember much before that but I still remember playing like, 5 games total on the SNES.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Third on January 19, 2014, 02:51:06 PM
So, Best Buy is sellng Ps4 consoles in-store today and people are waiting in lines.

Another +800k sold in january npd?
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: SantaC on January 19, 2014, 03:40:46 PM
is Mario even relevant anymore. Didn't New Super Mario Bros Wii U and Super Mario 3D world Wii U sell way below expectations?
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: SantaC on January 19, 2014, 06:02:13 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on January 19, 2014, 05:52:44 PM

Quote from: SantaC on January 19, 2014, 03:40:46 PM
is Mario even relevant anymore. Didn't New Super Mario Bros Wii U and Super Mario 3D world Wii U sell way below expectations?

Yes, but does that mean Mario is irrelevant, or does it mean the Wii U is?

I'd argue that Mario is still very relevant from a sales point of view, but it's not the hardware mover it once was.

too many games in a short span.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on January 20, 2014, 08:58:06 AM
PS4 is doing quite well in the UK.

01 (01) PS4 FIFA 14 (ELECTRONIC ARTS)
02 (04) PS4 KILLZONE: SHADOW FALL (SONY COMPUTER ENT.)
 03 (07) 360 MINECRAFT: XBOX 360 EDITION (MICROSOFT)
 04 (06) 360 FIFA 14 (ELECTRONIC ARTS)
05 (05) PS4 CALL OF DUTY: GHOSTS (ACTIVISION BLIZZARD)
 06 (10) XBO FIFA 14 (ELECTRONIC ARTS)
07 (08) PS4 BATTLEFIELD 4 (ELECTRONIC ARTS)
 08 (12) PS3 FIFA 14 (ELECTRONIC ARTS)
 09 (02) 360 CALL OF DUTY: GHOSTS (ACTIVISION BLIZZARD)
 10 (09) 360 ASSASSIN'S CREED IV: BLACK FLAG (UBISOFT)
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: archnemesis on January 20, 2014, 09:37:56 AM
I suppose that means they're shipping a decent amount of units even though you still can't find any in stores.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Third on January 25, 2014, 07:59:06 AM
(http://i.minus.com/jKhXWt8n0Tg8q.jpg)

(http://i.minus.com/jQQJ9wmZFKR3P.jpg)

I see Xbone, Ps3 and Wii U in stock. No Ps4's. Maybe they're sitting in the nextgen section.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: MCD on January 25, 2014, 08:00:33 AM
Healthy stock to meet the demand. No yield issues in sight.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Damian79 on January 25, 2014, 03:24:37 PM
Quote from: Exodust SoulBurn on January 19, 2014, 07:00:26 PM
You do realize if a Mario game was released on any console it would probably be the best seller on that console, right? It's the Wii U.

Probably on the 360 and ps3, not so much on the ps4 and Xbone.  Because Mario is a kids/family game and will sell on consoles that cost the least to purchase or high enough install base on.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Tasty on January 29, 2014, 10:41:07 AM
After only two months on the market, Pokemon X and Y sold 11.61 million copies in 2013.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: AdmiralViscen on January 29, 2014, 10:53:37 AM
Not bad for what is just a rehash of Dr Robotnik's Mean Bean Machine, which was considered good?
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Tasty on January 29, 2014, 11:01:42 AM
Other numbers:

Zelda: A Link Between Worlds – 2.18 million (1.85 million in US/EU)
Mario and Luigi: Dream Team – 2 million (1.54 million in US/EU)

The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker HD – >1 million
Wii Party U – >1 million
Super Mario 3D World – >1 million

Read more at http://www.siliconera.com/2014/01/28/pokemon-x-y-sold-11-61-million-zelda-link-worlds-2-2-million/#bUO64d7DkDLUrwIY.99
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Third on January 31, 2014, 10:16:17 AM
PS4 outselling the Xbox U 15:1 in Europe (http://blog.es.playstation.com/2014/01/31/charlamos-con-james-armstrong/#nnn)

Quote
181.000 units in Spain, 205.000 soon (new stock).
PS4/Xbox One ratio is 5:1, 15:1 the second week of december.

 :dead
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Himu on January 31, 2014, 12:39:52 PM
Spain is not Europe and Spain is Sony land. Always has been.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Human Snorenado on January 31, 2014, 01:17:39 PM
Quote from: Formerly Known As Himuro on January 31, 2014, 12:39:52 PM
Spain is not Europe and Spain is Sony land. Always has been.

Bu bu but if you take this away from Third, what will he have left? WHAT WILL HE HAVE LEFT???
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Himu on January 31, 2014, 01:26:56 PM
when i watch la liga highlights i like, never see any xbox one ads. i see a ton of ps4 ads though.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Mupepe on January 31, 2014, 01:59:58 PM
I wonder what the sales in Mozambique are like for both consoles.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Rufus on January 31, 2014, 02:02:47 PM
Shush, you won yours.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Fifstar on January 31, 2014, 02:08:08 PM
Not much to say about those sale numbers, but I definetely get the feeling that MS lost a lot of mindshare that they built with the 360 and to a lesser extent the original Xbox. 360 was behind the PS3 on sales here of course but for the people that didn't just buy a console and their yearly FIFA update, the 360 was an option for either shooter fans ore a bit more core orientated gamers. Now it seems like there is basically no interest in the XBone.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Rufus on January 31, 2014, 02:14:29 PM
It was also not smart to be the more 'premium priced' of the two. They basically made the same mistake as Sony did with the PS3. The Kinect adds value (presumably), but it adds more to the price than people care to pay when there's a cheaper alternative.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: HyperZoneWasAwesome on January 31, 2014, 02:15:17 PM
releasing a more expensive console into an economically depressed country was never going to work out well.

I'll bet the Xbone is killing it in the all-important markets of Monaco and Luxembourg.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Third on January 31, 2014, 04:12:17 PM
The Xbox One has only been released in 13 countries so far. We still don't have any dates for the different countries. MS doesn't seem to care.

Titanfall will only be availabe for 13 countries during launch, for example. Ps4 is available in almost 50 countries. EA fucked up.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: MCD on January 31, 2014, 04:32:27 PM
50 countries with limited supplies versus healthy stock. And that leaker at GAF already listed the launch dates for other countries.

And EA got their money already. Stop worrying about the big boys, son.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Mupepe on January 31, 2014, 06:03:37 PM
Quote from: Rufus on January 31, 2014, 02:02:47 PM
Shush, you won yours.
me? I didn't. That was Demi and G.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Rufus on January 31, 2014, 11:18:58 PM
I could have sworn... Oh well. :yeshrug
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Third on February 01, 2014, 05:34:08 AM
Quote from: MCD on January 31, 2014, 04:32:27 PM
50 countries with limited supplies versus healthy stock. And that leaker at GAF already listed the launch dates for other countries.

And EA got their money already. Stop worrying about the big boys, son.

EA screwed up anyway. It's better to have your game out in 50 countries AND getting your money. Instead of just getting the money. The exposure will be minimal. Titanfall is basically already a flop in Europe and Japan.

Ps4 exclusive would've been more lucrative anyway seeing how it trashes the X1 everywhere in sales. But EA accepted the MS moneyhat dick and now they have to swollow it. Too bad for them.

Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Human Snorenado on February 01, 2014, 06:10:51 AM
Are we pretending that Titanfall EVER would have done well in Japan now? Really? :gurl

Third, I'm starting to worry about you. How old are you, and how far on the autism spectrum did you test as?
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Third on February 01, 2014, 07:11:29 AM
CoD and GTA do pretty well in Japan. And Titanfall has mechs. I thought Japs loved that stupid shit?

Anyway, EA's new franchise will only be popular in NA.

RIP Titantfall
2014-2014
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: AdmiralViscen on February 01, 2014, 07:30:57 AM
You are really sticking it to all the disgusing xfags on this forum, and coming out smelling like roses!
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Takao on February 01, 2014, 05:51:13 PM
I kind of figured the PS4 would have had a bigger lead over the XB1 due to the price differences and regional availability. I guess that's just a testament to how strong the Xbox brand is in English speaking parts of the world, and I guess Sony's stock problems.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: AdmiralViscen on February 01, 2014, 06:24:43 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on February 01, 2014, 05:19:55 PM
third I appreciate you're relishing this chance to act like you did eight years ago, it must be super nostalgic for you, but racism isn't cool, breh

What does it say that the same people who liked my post liked this one, except borys
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Third on February 01, 2014, 08:36:53 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on February 01, 2014, 05:19:55 PM
third I appreciate you're relishing this chance to act like you did eight years ago, it must be super nostalgic for you, but racism isn't cool, breh

I guess it's cool to discriminate on homo's, though. You never complain when people use 'sfag' or 'nfag'. But calling Japanese people 'Japs' has your otaku ass all riled up somehow.

Anyway, Titanfall looks great. But I don't care for the game. I hate online only games. I just think that EA, and especially Respawn, are going to hit themselves in the head when Ps4 has outsold the X1 2:1 worldwide by the time the game launches. MS moneyhat better be good to cover those lost Ps3 and Ps4 sales. Both systems sell better than the MS machines...
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Himu on February 01, 2014, 08:56:49 PM
Calling oscar an otaku :aah :heh :sabu
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Damian79 on February 01, 2014, 09:03:32 PM
Quote from: Third on February 01, 2014, 08:36:53 PM
I guess it's cool to discriminate on homo's, though. You never complain when people use 'sfag' or 'nfag'. But calling Japanese people 'Japs' has your otaku ass all riled up somehow.

Anyway, Titanfall looks great. But I don't care for the game. I hate online only games. I just think that EA, and especially Respawn, are going to hit themselves in the head when Ps4 has outsold the X1 2:1 worldwide by the time the game launches. MS moneyhat better be good to cover those lost Ps3 and Ps4 sales. Both systems sell better than the MS machines...

You realize it int the use of the word "japs" right that bothers most japanese?  It is the assertion that Japs like "stupid shit" that they dont like.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Tasty on February 01, 2014, 09:09:50 PM
Quote from: Third on February 01, 2014, 08:36:53 PM
But calling Japanese people 'Japs' has your otaku ass all riled up somehow.

(http://i.imgur.com/gSd0W0k.gif)
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Mupepe on February 01, 2014, 09:46:49 PM
I wish the ps4 had games so third had something else to do besides invest in console wars
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: brob on February 01, 2014, 09:49:09 PM
The critical thinking capabilities of the console warrior  :heh
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Damian79 on February 01, 2014, 10:30:23 PM
nvm i ll just google it.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Himu on February 01, 2014, 10:39:27 PM
man third, you're so hot. post pics in this thread so make people ease off of you.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Rufus on February 01, 2014, 10:49:17 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on February 01, 2014, 10:17:38 PM
I don't use 'f ag'.  Discrimination isn't cool against anyone, except Europeans.
Oi! >:(
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Himu on February 01, 2014, 10:49:58 PM
In Oscar's case he probably just means the French.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Positive Touch on February 01, 2014, 10:52:51 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on February 01, 2014, 10:17:38 PM
Discrimination isn't cool against anyone, except Europeans.

newsfeed, so new users will know how to properly treat our borean underclass
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Tasty on February 01, 2014, 11:43:22 PM
Quote from: Formerly Known As Himuro on February 01, 2014, 10:49:58 PM
In Oscar's case he probably just means the French.

Nah, he rags on the poles too much too (with good reason.)
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Human Snorenado on February 02, 2014, 02:32:30 AM
Quote from: Formerly Known As Himuro on February 01, 2014, 10:49:58 PM
In Oscar's case he probably just means the French.

And whatever magoose is
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Third on February 02, 2014, 07:22:46 AM
Quote from: Mupepe on February 01, 2014, 09:46:49 PM
I wish the ps4 had games so third had something else to do besides invest in console wars

I wish the Ps4 wasn't sold out in my country.  :'(
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on February 02, 2014, 08:25:56 AM
Play nice kids while im getting my internet connection sorted

On topic: PS4 is sold out here, asked when they will be back in stock but there is a long waitinh list. Prob wont be until april or may when you can just pick one up.

Xbox might as well not launch anymore gap is so big.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Joe Molotov on February 02, 2014, 08:33:07 AM
Quote from: Positive Touch on February 01, 2014, 10:52:51 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on February 01, 2014, 10:17:38 PM
Discrimination isn't cool against anyone, except Europeans.

newsfeed, so new users will know how to properly treat our borean underclass

I'm sure they already know.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: archnemesis on February 02, 2014, 08:40:11 AM
Quote from: Lagerless on February 02, 2014, 08:25:56 AM
Xbox might as well not launch anymore gap is so big.
Sony would do well to sort out the supply issue before the XB1 launches in April. Many potential customers only care about FIFA and Call of Duty. Price and availability will decide what they end up with.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: mjemirzian on February 02, 2014, 09:23:57 AM
There can't really be console warriors here, right? They're just trolling, right guys? :(
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cascade on February 02, 2014, 10:03:39 AM
Quote from: mjemirzian on February 02, 2014, 09:23:57 AM
There can't really be console warriors here, right? They're just trolling, right guys? :(
radioheadrule83santi-EAmiiverserantings.jpg
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Great Rumbler on February 02, 2014, 11:16:50 AM
Quote from: mjemirzian on February 02, 2014, 09:23:57 AM
There can't really be console warriors here, right? They're just trolling, right guys? :(

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=utddDvJ1Rvo
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on February 02, 2014, 01:37:42 PM
Quote from: mjemirzian on February 02, 2014, 09:23:57 AM
There can't really be console warriors here, right? They're just trolling, right guys? :(

There are a few Nintendo fans but they're generally beaten down to the point where they keep quiet about it.  That and there is nothing really positive to report about Nintendo.

I think this board is too apathetic about the new generation to have too many Third and Kosma style console warriors.  In fact, I think so many people here are checked out of playing consoles and handhelds period that there is no point in really trying to wage any kind of fanboy pissing matches, which is why Third and Kosma's dumbfuckery is more abrasive than usual.  It's basically PC vs. iOS/Android vs. traditional consoles/handhelds at this point as opposed to Nintendo vs. Microsoft vs. Sony.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Mupepe on February 02, 2014, 07:59:09 PM
Quote from: Third on February 02, 2014, 07:22:46 AM
Quote from: Mupepe on February 01, 2014, 09:46:49 PM
I wish the ps4 had games so third had something else to do besides invest in console wars

I wish the Ps4 wasn't sold out in my country.  :'(
:( sorry buddy
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Stoney Mason on February 03, 2014, 12:46:15 AM
Quote from: Mary Tyler Whore on February 02, 2014, 01:37:42 PM
It's basically PC vs. iOS/Android vs. traditional consoles/handhelds at this point as opposed to Nintendo vs. Microsoft vs. Sony.

So true.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Stoney Mason on February 03, 2014, 04:29:03 PM
Quote from: Borys on February 03, 2014, 04:24:33 PM
TTWO earnings:

GTAV - 32.5M units sold (shieeeeeeeeeet)
Borderlands 2 - 8.5M units sold (whatdog.gif)

Pretty crazy numbers for GTA 5 and it still has three more platforms to go.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Human Snorenado on February 03, 2014, 05:25:56 PM
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GungHo released their fiscal year earnings today: http://www.gungho.co.jp/ir/uploads/irk20140203_2.pdf

The Puzzle & Dragons IP (the smartphone game, the 3DS game and other related products) brought in ¥148.584 billion ($1.46 billion) in revenue last year for GungHo. Average of ~$4 million per day.

:heh
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Beezy on February 03, 2014, 07:48:16 PM
Quote from: Creepy Old Guy on February 03, 2014, 05:25:56 PM
Quote
GungHo released their fiscal year earnings today: http://www.gungho.co.jp/ir/uploads/irk20140203_2.pdf

The Puzzle & Dragons IP (the smartphone game, the 3DS game and other related products) brought in ¥148.584 billion ($1.46 billion) in revenue last year for GungHo. Average of ~$4 million per day.

:heh
:ohhh
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Great Rumbler on February 03, 2014, 08:20:45 PM
:goty
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Human Snorenado on February 04, 2014, 01:38:47 PM
I need some numbers to make my boss cry. He's trying to say that the console industry is doing just fine.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Steve Youngblood on February 04, 2014, 02:00:50 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on February 01, 2014, 10:19:43 PM
Quote from: Damian79 on February 01, 2014, 09:03:32 PM
You realize it int the use of the word "japs" right that bothers most japanese?  It is the assertion that Japs like "stupid shit" that they dont like.

no, the word 'jap' is actually an issue all on its own.  i didn't think it would be anymore, but yeah, it is.

Oh, so Superman's a racist now, huh?

(http://i.imgur.com/PMcjgPy.jpg)
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Joe Molotov on February 04, 2014, 02:19:08 PM
Quote from: Steve Youngblood on February 04, 2014, 02:00:50 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on February 01, 2014, 10:19:43 PM
Quote from: Damian79 on February 01, 2014, 09:03:32 PM
You realize it int the use of the word "japs" right that bothers most japanese?  It is the assertion that Japs like "stupid shit" that they dont like.

no, the word 'jap' is actually an issue all on its own.  i didn't think it would be anymore, but yeah, it is.

Oh, so Superman's a racist now, huh?

(http://i.imgur.com/PMcjgPy.jpg)

Das Ubermensch, you mean? Nah, surely this white male power fantasy can't be racist at all.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Trent Dole on February 04, 2014, 02:36:00 PM
Quote from: Esch on February 04, 2014, 01:43:14 PM
http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2014-01-28-pc-gaming-market-to-exceed-USD25-billion-this-year-dfc

Quote
words
DFC :teehee
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Mupepe on February 04, 2014, 03:27:10 PM
Quote from: Trent Dole on February 04, 2014, 02:36:00 PM
Quote from: Esch on February 04, 2014, 01:43:14 PM
http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2014-01-28-pc-gaming-market-to-exceed-USD25-billion-this-year-dfc

Quote
words
DFC :teehee
Dick Fucking Cunts?
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Himu on February 04, 2014, 06:52:55 PM
Jesus.  Gtav was 30 million? It gained so many people after gtaiv.  Holy shit.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Tasty on February 04, 2014, 07:53:11 PM
30 million is like, more than most consoles. Holy shit.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Human Snorenado on February 04, 2014, 08:04:44 PM
I'm sure that launching when there were two consoles with huge user bases already helped a lot. Lots of people were probably all, "oh yeah I own a 360/trippel, might as well dust that ish off and run over some hookers."
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Stoney Mason on February 06, 2014, 05:31:42 PM
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Selected Business Highlights:
In North America and Europe combined, Activision Publishing was the #1 console and handheld publisher for the calendar year with the #2 and #3 best-selling franchises—Call of Duty and Skylanders, including toys and accessories.
In North America and Europe combined, for the calendar year, Activision Publishing had four of the top-10 titles overall.1
For the fourth quarter, in aggregate across all platforms in the U.S. and Europe combined, Activision Publishing’s Call of Duty: Ghosts was the #1 best-selling title in both units and dollars and the #1 best-selling game on both next-gen platforms in both units and dollars. Additionally, for the calendar year, Call of Duty: Black Ops II was the #9 best-selling title in both units and dollars.2
For the calendar year, in North America and Europe combined, Skylanders Giants™, including toys and accessories, was the #4 best-selling handheld and console game in dollars overall and Skylanders SWAP Force™, including toys and accessories, was the #6 best-selling handheld and console game in dollars overall.1
As of December 31, 2013, the Skylanders franchise has generated, life-to-date, more than $2 billion in worldwide sales1 and, at the end of the year, Activision had sold approximately 175 million Skylanders toys worldwide.3
For the calendar year in North America, Blizzard Entertainment’s StarCraft® II: Heart of the Swarm® was the #1 best-selling PC game.⁴
As of December 31, 2013, Blizzard Entertainment’s World of Warcraft remains the #1 subscription-based MMORPG, with approximately 7.8 million subscribers.3

Also COD is moving to a three studio rotation. Where each dev will effectively have 3 years on each iteration. So the next Treyarch one will be 2015.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Bebpo on February 06, 2014, 05:48:30 PM
Quote from: Exodust SoulBurn on February 04, 2014, 08:27:26 PM
Quote from: Formerly Known As Himuro on February 04, 2014, 06:52:55 PM
Jesus.  Gtav was 30 million? It gained so many people after gtaiv.  Holy shit.

Good, GTA IV sucked and V was good enough to bring me back.

Argghhh, I really want to sit down and play GTAV but all the next-gen port teasing lately is making me hold off since I don't replay games and a 1080p, locked 30fps version with some AA would be really nice since the game is already a looker and just needs better IQ.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: AdmiralViscen on February 06, 2014, 09:57:08 PM
How the hell did Activision beat Nintendo at handheld publishing?
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Tasty on February 07, 2014, 12:13:50 PM
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=765041

Apparently Sonic Lost World didn't bomb, guess I can see why Sega'd stick through the exclusive deal for Boom.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Steve Youngblood on February 07, 2014, 01:24:22 PM
Quote from: Tasty Meat on February 07, 2014, 12:13:50 PM
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=765041

Apparently Sonic Lost World didn't bomb, guess I can see why Sega'd stick through the exclusive deal for Boom.

Well, that's shipped not sold. Further, that's 640K across two platforms. I'm not enough of a sales guru to know where Sega would draw the line in terms of bomb vs. underwhelming vs. successful, but I have to think that that's at least in the underwhelming range.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: AdmiralViscen on February 08, 2014, 12:20:40 AM
That definitely sucks. Though I don't think Sega had a choice but to release one more exclusive.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Tasty on February 08, 2014, 01:40:07 AM
Considering the Wii U I'm not surprised. Word of mouth also seems sucky.

However, I'd still say it's not a bomb.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Shaka Khan on February 08, 2014, 02:22:41 AM
I'd love to see the breakdown of sell through numbers between the two platforms. Because the Wii U version definitely cost more, and definitely sold *way* less.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Third on February 09, 2014, 05:11:51 PM
Do we have any insiders here who can confirm that the X1 is fucked in the January NPD?
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on February 09, 2014, 05:27:05 PM
If it was any more fucked, it'd be your mom's asshole
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Third on February 10, 2014, 02:56:05 PM
MS investors want to kill the Xbox brand (http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-switch/wp/2014/02/05/investors-want-microsofts-new-ceo-to-kill-xbox-bing-and-surface/)

They probably saw the january NPD.  :omg
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Tasty on February 10, 2014, 03:33:36 PM
Doesn't make sense to me personally, differentiation is good and the Surface/Xbox are good products. Bing is a strategic bet that'll probably pay off whenever Google messes up big time.

What do they want, for MS to just be Windows/Office? That's like telling Google to kill everything but Search and Ads. Would be a dumb call.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Himu on February 10, 2014, 03:37:44 PM
Quote from: Third on February 10, 2014, 02:56:05 PM
MS investors want to kill the Xbox brand (http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-switch/wp/2014/02/05/investors-want-microsofts-new-ceo-to-kill-xbox-bing-and-surface/)

They probably saw the january NPD.  :omg

This is old, old news.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Trent Dole on February 10, 2014, 03:49:52 PM
Yeah, investors being fuckwits incapable of seeing the longview isn't a revelation at all really.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on February 10, 2014, 05:55:41 PM
The January Xbone NPD isn't that bad, HTH.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: archie4208 on February 10, 2014, 07:57:18 PM
http://www.pcgamer.com/2014/02/11/rust-hits-1-million-sales-after-two-months/

something something pc gaming wins again
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: D3RANG3D on February 11, 2014, 11:44:25 AM
Quote from: archie4208 on February 10, 2014, 07:57:18 PM
http://www.pcgamer.com/2014/02/11/rust-hits-1-million-sales-after-two-months/

something something pc gaming wins again

spoiler (click to show/hide)
:rejoice
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Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Himu on February 11, 2014, 11:50:49 AM
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Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Great Rumbler on February 11, 2014, 01:07:07 PM
Quote from: Formerly Known As Himuro on February 11, 2014, 11:50:49 AM
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:umad
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Shaka Khan on February 11, 2014, 01:31:10 PM
Quote from: Formerly Known As Himuro on February 11, 2014, 11:50:49 AM
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(http://i.imgur.com/ccNzyUy.png)
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: radioheadrule83 on February 12, 2014, 07:38:37 AM
Don't know if this was already discussed but - DFC predict both Xbone and PS4 will sell 100m units
http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2014-02-11-ps4-xbox-one-will-both-reach-100m-units-dfc

In my view, its only possible for one console to do that, and I suspect even that may struggle to do it. Both are off to a strong start, trending ahead of last gen, but I think demand across the 5+ years is going to be down. Too much other shit vying for attention.

From Webush's new report - also predicting HW industry growth:

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In contrast with the last cycle, when the second console of choice in most households was the Nintendo Wii, we expect an increasing number of
households to buy more than one next generation console

I'm not sure about that.

If there's one area I think this generation might be better for business bods than the last, its in terms of software revenue (not necessarily software units). I think they're getting wiser at generating money from new models.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Third on February 12, 2014, 03:03:24 PM
How the hell are they predicting 100mln for the X1? The console will only be relevant in one region  :lol
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Himu on February 12, 2014, 03:41:14 PM
More than that, neither ps3 nor xbox 360 have reached those numbers, have they? I see no reason as to why this gen will be better off financially than last gen? Seems wishful thinking. 100 mill units is approaching ps2 territory. 100 million for both? Uh huh. Right.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: cool breeze on February 12, 2014, 04:03:21 PM
yeah, and soon they'll be 9 and 8 years old.  I can't imagine this generation going on that long or the idea of a years long fixed spec standard generation will be replaced with something more inline with other tech products.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Human Snorenado on February 12, 2014, 04:17:03 PM
Technically, this generation will go on forever, as it's going to be the last one :jawalrus
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Himu on February 12, 2014, 06:22:29 PM
:heh

I lol'd irl
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Trent Dole on February 12, 2014, 07:15:56 PM
The Wii audience migrated to cell phone and Facebook games and did so several years ago now you dense fucks.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: pilonv1 on February 12, 2014, 09:51:21 PM
The Wii audience didn't even migrate to buying games on the console they already owned
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on February 13, 2014, 11:35:10 AM
Xbone is doing great in Europe

In Germany for example it has a game in the top 40

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01   (02)   PS3   GRAN TURISMO 6   (SONY COMPUTER ENTERTAINMENT)
02   (03)   PS3   FIFA 14   (ELECTRONIC ARTS)
03   (09)   PS4   FIFA 14   (ELECTRONIC ARTS)
04   (05)   PS3   CALL OF DUTY: GHOSTS   (ACTIVISION BLIZZARD)
05   (06)   PS3   ASSASSIN'S CREED IV - BLACK FLAG   (UBISOFT)
06   (04)   PS3   GRAND THEFT AUTO V   (TAKE-TWO INTERACTIVE)
07   (NE)   360   FABLE ANNIVERSARY   (MICROSOFT)
08   (07)   3DS   MARIO PARTY: ISLAND TOUR   (NINTENDO)
09   (01)   PS4   TOMB RAIDER - DEFINITIVE EDITION   (SQUARE ENIX)
10   (11)   WII   JUST DANCE 2014   (UBISOFT)
11   (12)   3DS   ANIMAL CROSSING: NEW LEAF   (NINTENDO)
12   (32)   PS4   BATTLEFIELD 4   (ELECTRONIC ARTS)
13   (13)   3DS   MARIO KART 7   (NINTENDO)
14   (23)   PS4   ASSASSIN'S CREED IV - BLACK FLAG   (UBISOFT)
15   (15)   PC   CALL OF DUTY: GHOSTS   (ACTIVISION BLIZZARD)
16   (18)   PC   DIABLO III   (ACTIVISION BLIZZARD)
17   (38)   PS4   CALL OF DUTY: GHOSTS   (ACTIVISION BLIZZARD)
18   (19)   360   MINECRAFT - XBOX 360 EDITION   (AK TRONIC)
19   (21)   360   CALL OF DUTY: GHOSTS   (ACTIVISION BLIZZARD)
20   (22)   3DS   POKÉMON Y   (NINTENDO)
21   (16)   WIU   SUPER MARIO 3D WORLD   (NINTENDO)
22   (14)   PS3   DIABLO III   (ACTIVISION BLIZZARD)
23   (25)   3DS   NEW SUPER MARIO BROS. 2   (NINTENDO)
24   (29)   3DS   POKÉMON X   (NINTENDO)
25   (24)   PS3   NEED FOR SPEED: RIVALS   (ELECTRONIC ARTS)
26   (28)   360   ASSASSIN'S CREED IV - BLACK FLAG   (UBISOFT)
27   (35)   PC   THE ELDER SCROLLS V - SKYRIM   (BETHESDA SOFTWORKS)
28   (17)   PS3   BATTLEFIELD 4   (ELECTRONIC ARTS)
29   (27)   PS3   BEYOND: TWO SOULS   (SONY COMPUTER ENTERTAINMENT)
30   (26)   PC   BATTLEFIELD 4   (ELECTRONIC ARTS)
31   (10)   PS3   DRAGON BALL Z: BATTLE OF Z   (NAMCO BANDAI GAMES)
32   (46)   PS4   NEED FOR SPEED: RIVALS   (ELECTRONIC ARTS)
33   (34)   PC   LANDWIRTSCHAFTS-SIMULATOR 2013   (ASTRAGON)
34   (33)   3DS   THE LEGEND OF ZELDA: A LINK BETWEEN WORLDS   (NINTENDO)
35   (20)   360   GRAND THEFT AUTO V   (TAKE-TWO INTERACTIVE)
36   (40)   360   FIFA 14   (ELECTRONIC ARTS)
37   (08)   XBO   TOMB RAIDER - DEFINITIVE EDITION   (SQUARE ENIX)

Meanwhile in Xboxland UK it squeezes a whole two games into the top 15

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01   (NE)   360   FABLE: ANNIVERSARY   (MICROSOFT)
02   (02)   PS4   FIFA 14   (ELECTRONIC ARTS)
03   (03)   360   MINECRAFT: XBOX 360 EDITION   (MICROSOFT)
04   (01)   PS4   TOMB RAIDER: DEFINITIVE EDITION   (SQUARE ENIX EUROPE)
05   (05)   360   CALL OF DUTY: GHOSTS   (ACTIVISION BLIZZARD)
06   (07)   PS4   KILLZONE: SHADOW FALL   (SONY COMPUTER ENT.)
07   (20)   PS3   GRAND THEFT AUTO V   (TAKE 2)
08   (13)   PS3   GRAN TURISMO 6   (SONY COMPUTER ENT.)
09   (16)   360   GRAND THEFT AUTO V   (TAKE 2)
10   (06)   PS4   CALL OF DUTY: GHOSTS   (ACTIVISION BLIZZARD)
11   (09)   PS4   BATTLEFIELD 4   (ELECTRONIC ARTS)
12   (11)   PS3   CALL OF DUTY: GHOSTS   (ACTIVISION BLIZZARD)
13   (10)   XBO   FIFA 14   ELECTRONIC ARTS)
14   (12)   360   LEGO MARVEL SUPER HEROES   (WARNER BROS. INTERACTIVE)
15   (04)   XBO   TOMB RAIDER: DEFINITIVE EDITION   (SQUARE ENIX EUROPE)
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on February 13, 2014, 11:38:23 AM
when u consider that fifa is packed in with the bone its even more jilarious  :lol :lol :lol
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Third on February 13, 2014, 12:20:02 PM
No wonder the European Xbox boss has jumped out today  :lol
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Himu on February 13, 2014, 12:34:03 PM
Quote from: MyNameIsMethodis on February 13, 2014, 11:38:23 AM
when u consider that fifa is packed in with the bone its even more jilarious  :lol :lol :lol

It is? Wow. Yeah, that's hilarious.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Third on February 13, 2014, 06:31:21 PM
Ps4 outsold the X1 2:1 last month in NA :lol
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: MCD on February 13, 2014, 06:37:27 PM
Only double? What a disaster for Sony.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Purple Filth on February 13, 2014, 06:38:35 PM
more bullshit from both sides with this info

:rejoice
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on February 13, 2014, 06:40:15 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9XkqpzYu64
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 13, 2014, 07:05:12 PM
 :oreilly

I don't even play videogames yet today's numbers make me feel a type of way. Fucking Sony tards get validated again. :beli
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Himu on February 13, 2014, 07:13:08 PM
I think you may have something against Sony, pd.

And I'm not impressed with either number.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Trent Dole on February 13, 2014, 07:16:05 PM
Bu bu but supply constraints you guys!
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Mupepe on February 13, 2014, 07:16:32 PM
:bow Xbone :bow2
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: archie4208 on February 13, 2014, 07:19:39 PM
Seems like a good time to add some funds to your Steam account.  :gaben
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Mupepe on February 13, 2014, 07:20:49 PM
Third and Methodis on suicide watch.

143k. Wow. Just wow. Xbone is truly dominating.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: pilonv1 on February 13, 2014, 07:30:00 PM
I find it amusing that there are people laughing at "Xbox*", considering how long Sony used "PlayStation family" for their PR to sound decent.

As Oscar sez, how important is being first in a rapidly declining industry?
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on February 13, 2014, 07:38:25 PM
dont lum me in with npd sale distinguished mentally-challenged fellows i couldnt care less about sales results its all meaningless in the end anyways; no ones ever gone out of business for doing bad with the NPDs
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: pilonv1 on February 13, 2014, 07:39:08 PM
Probably the first month where previous gen fell off a cliff. Probably also a good thing I can't see any numbers anymore, I'd start to feel sorry for some people.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: AdmiralViscen on February 13, 2014, 07:40:21 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on February 13, 2014, 07:12:43 PM
Bone under 150k, PS4 under 300k.  They're the top two platforms for the month.  PS4 barely edged out the PS3's first January.  Bone sold less than the GBA did in January 2007. 

Nobody's doing much winning here.

Ruh roh
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Shaka Khan on February 13, 2014, 07:45:32 PM
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January NPD Group figures released today revealed Xbox* sold the most games across all console platforms in January with 2.27 million units sold, making up 47 percent of software market share.

Is MS combining 360 and xbone SW numbers? :lol I wonder if Sony ever did that.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on February 13, 2014, 07:50:17 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on February 13, 2014, 07:47:35 PM

Quote from: MyNameIsMethodis on February 13, 2014, 07:38:25 PM
dont lum me in with npd sale distinguished mentally-challenged fellows i couldnt care less about sales results its all meaningless in the end anyways; no ones ever gone out of business for doing bad with the NPDs

except every game company that ever went out of business

good to see you back from your vacation!  did you get a tan?

more propganda spread by the man to ge tpeople to buy into NPDS is what I say; real sales figures come from mail order catalogs
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Bebpo on February 13, 2014, 08:02:53 PM
Eh, Oscar don't forget PS4 is still pretty supply restrained.  With ample supply it'd be much higher than 300k.  PS4 has fairly good momentum going right now.  They just need to do some stuff to maintain it until fall.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Himu on February 13, 2014, 08:04:47 PM
Ps4 is supply constrained but less so compared to ps3, am I correct? And yet in Jan it did about the same as ps3s first npd month.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Mupepe on February 13, 2014, 08:05:02 PM
Is it? It's been available everywhere in my area since mid January.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Rahxephon91 on February 13, 2014, 08:07:21 PM
All the game stops around here have "PS4 in Stock" signs. Anecdotal but there you go.

They never have signs for Xbone because it was never out of stock.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: pilonv1 on February 13, 2014, 08:07:43 PM
Quote from: Bebpo on February 13, 2014, 08:02:53 PM
Eh, Oscar don't forget PS4 is still pretty supply restrained.  With ample supply it'd be much higher than 300k.  PS4 has fairly good momentum going right now.  They just need to do some stuff to maintain it until fall.

This implies that some of the sales aren't as a result of people rushing to buy it because they hear it is supply constrained. Nothing like artificial scarcity to increase demand.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Bebpo on February 13, 2014, 08:08:34 PM
I dunno, I don't look because it's not worth the time, but I see people posting availability searches from big areas all the time and it's still usually out of stock at most stores and the ones that do have them still are making a big deal when they have supply in.

Definitely not as low stock as Nov/Dec, but still a lot of people can't just walk into a store and impulse buy one yet.  Maybe Feb?
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: headwalk on February 13, 2014, 08:11:19 PM
man, what sony would do without microsoft.

mediocre specs vs. downright shitty specs. $400 almost cost price hardware vs. $500 hardware bloated by a dumb camera. introduction of online fees vs. trying to gape their whole userbase. bare minimum of media features vs. having to pay for gold to use netflix. no games vs. no games. colossal drop-off to crappy post christmas sales vs. an unholy depth charge of a sales implosion.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Himu on February 13, 2014, 08:14:13 PM
Yeah the stores here say ps4 in stock as well. But talk on the net is that it isn't meeting demand. Could be Sony slut fud though.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: archie4208 on February 13, 2014, 08:18:31 PM
PS4 is readily available at Amazon.

Supply constrained my butt.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Bebpo on February 13, 2014, 08:21:15 PM
It's also mid-Feb and this is the NPD from January.  Feb's NPD will be interesting to see if it levels off or maintains around 300k.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: AdmiralViscen on February 13, 2014, 08:31:27 PM
Quote from: Formerly Known As Himuro on February 13, 2014, 08:04:47 PM
Ps4 is supply constrained but less so compared to ps3, am I correct? And yet in Jan it did about the same as ps3s first npd month.

PS3 was easy to find in December, forget about January.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Tasty on February 13, 2014, 08:33:03 PM
With numbers like those, the Weeoo as a chance :rejoice




























:'(
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Purple Filth on February 13, 2014, 08:37:10 PM
Quote from: archie4208 on February 13, 2014, 08:18:31 PM
PS4 is readily available at Amazon.

Supply constrained my butt.

It came back in stock about 2 days ago.


Quote from: Bebpo on February 13, 2014, 08:21:15 PM
It's also mid-Feb and this is the NPD from January.  Feb's NPD will be interesting to see if it levels off or maintains around 300k.

Nah its still gonna have the stock excuse since it will be launching in Japan at the end of the month.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Joe Molotov on February 13, 2014, 08:38:07 PM
Wait for E3SpaceWorldSmashBrosMarioKartXBayonetta2Galaxy3.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Human Snorenado on February 13, 2014, 08:59:30 PM
(http://t.qkme.me/3pi2n5.jpg)
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Tasty on February 13, 2014, 09:57:22 PM
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Nintendo reports that Wii U software sales increased by 16% over January of last year.

Momentum™.

Quote
Pokemon X and Y sold more than 125,000 combined units in the US in January, bringing their total sales to more than 3.25 million in the United States.

:jawalrus
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Pringo on February 13, 2014, 10:36:01 PM
Well Oscar's numbers are almost here: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=100730243#post100730243

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Originally Posted by creamsugar

fitu < 20K

Quote
Originally Posted by AniHawk

just guessing

3ds: 130k
ps3: 60k
360: 50k
wii u: 55k
wii: 25k
vita: 25k

something like that. the sales of all the others have to be more than the ps4 for sony to boast that it's the ps4 and ps3 outperforming everything else combined (unless by console they meant console and not handheld).

Too mach for all of them.

RIP console gaming.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on February 13, 2014, 11:02:09 PM
Quote from: headwalk on February 13, 2014, 08:11:19 PM
man, what sony would do without microsoft.

mediocre specs vs. downright shitty specs. $400 almost cost price hardware vs. $500 hardware bloated by a dumb camera. introduction of online fees vs. trying to gape their whole userbase. bare minimum of media features vs. having to pay for gold to use netflix. no games vs. no games. colossal drop-off to crappy post christmas sales vs. an unholy depth charge of a sales implosion.

Yeah the Xbone is a mindblowingly awful deal:

:derp "Yes, let's release a console with weaker specs than our competitor, comes with a camera that nobody has given a shit about since 2011, and is $100 more than our competitor as well.  Sounds great!"
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Pringo on February 13, 2014, 11:16:23 PM
270K < PS4 < 272K
140K < Xbox One < 142K
48K < Wii U < 50K

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=100737404#post100737404
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Purple Filth on February 13, 2014, 11:38:49 PM
god dammit oscar why do you have to be right most of the time :tocry.


Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Himu on February 13, 2014, 11:44:15 PM
Quote from: Mary Tyler Whore on February 13, 2014, 11:02:09 PM
Quote from: headwalk on February 13, 2014, 08:11:19 PM
man, what sony would do without microsoft.

mediocre specs vs. downright shitty specs. $400 almost cost price hardware vs. $500 hardware bloated by a dumb camera. introduction of online fees vs. trying to gape their whole userbase. bare minimum of media features vs. having to pay for gold to use netflix. no games vs. no games. colossal drop-off to crappy post christmas sales vs. an unholy depth charge of a sales implosion.

Yeah the Xbone is a mindblowingly awful deal:

:derp "Yes, let's release a console with weaker specs than our competitor, comes with a camera that nobody has given a shit about since 2011, and is $100 more than our competitor as well.  Sounds great!"

And yet you still bought one.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on February 14, 2014, 07:18:03 AM
Who cares that the industry is changing, get over it already. There will always be games anyway and judging by the 5 games you guys finish a year there is a lifetime supply already.

EA must be crying themselves to sleep by now together with MS
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: ToxicAdam on February 14, 2014, 08:53:06 AM
I've said it before, but this isn't a battle over dollars. It's a battle over time.

There is only so much free time in a day for people and the space once reserved for playing console games is now being crowded out by other forms of entertainment.

Not all is lost, console gaming is like rap music. As long as there are 18-24 yr old dudes, it's going to be around in some form. The gaming console company that hyperfocuses on that idea and quits trying to be 'all things to all people' will survive.




Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: headwalk on February 14, 2014, 09:23:07 AM
the thing i don't get about the supply constrained argument is that both manufacturers managed to push a million(ish) out in december to resupply the initial launch sell-outs.

did they look at these sales and think "woah, better cut down those factory orders. can't have those kids working overtime" and somehow manage to only push a quarter of those numbers out the next month?
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Great Rumbler on February 14, 2014, 09:38:23 AM
Quote from: headwalk on February 14, 2014, 09:23:07 AM
the thing i don't get about the supply constrained argument is that both manufacturers managed to push a million(ish) out in december to resupply the initial launch sell-outs.

did they look at these sales and think "woah, better cut down those factory orders. can't have those kids working overtime" and somehow manage to only push a quarter of those numbers out the next month?

They could ship the initial stockpile of units in such a way that they arrive in several large waves [in order to avoid overloading retailers while maintaining a somewhat steady supply] over the course of the first two months or so, but in subsequent months they'd be constrained solely to what they could produce and deliver in that month. I have no idea if that's the case, though, but I still haven't seen a single PS4 at the local Best Buy [but they've still got a huge stack of Xbones that hasn't budged].
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: AdmiralViscen on February 14, 2014, 09:47:16 AM
Sony is stocking up for the Japanese launch too.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: ToxicAdam on February 14, 2014, 10:00:07 AM
I believe the Sony 'supply constrained' argument though. I look on Ebay/Craigslist and you can find new consoles going for 10-20 percent above retail. Whereas the Xbox One listings are more in line with what you find with a typical new console (slightly less than retail).

Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Fragamemnon on February 14, 2014, 10:02:51 AM
Quote from: ToxicAdam on February 14, 2014, 08:53:06 AM
Not all is lost, console gaming is like rap music. As long as there are 18-24 yr old dudes, it's going to be around in some form. The gaming console company that hyperfocuses on that idea and quits trying to be 'all things to all people' will survive.

Right, but the segment will be unable to support its 'everything AAA' lifestyle and it's ever-increasing need for more sales and more gamers. That model simply does not work without robust year-over-year market expansion. I don't know how consoles get from the diseased state to the post-AAA reality that the PC has already adopted without completely wrecking the major players in the process.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Great Rumbler on February 14, 2014, 10:08:45 AM
Quote from: Fragamemnon on February 14, 2014, 10:02:51 AM
I don't know how consoles get from the diseased state to the post-AAA reality that the PC has already adopted without completely wrecking the major players in the process.

Probably it won't, just like back in 1983.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on February 14, 2014, 10:14:16 AM
Oscar you know about sales, but its so tiring to have everyone saying consoles are dead every 10 seconds. This decline has been going om for years. Its boring.

Frag, im sure they will adapt somehow just like the pc did, think lots of games  be made by smaller teams and devs again. Smaller budgets maybe, but more nimble and flexible teams that will bring great games to us.

Technically we are at a point where making a decent looking game is not too hard with the tools available. Its that triple aaa look that will be reserved for a few games a year max. Just like im movies you only have a few blockbusters a year.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Fifstar on February 14, 2014, 10:26:18 AM
Quote from: ToxicAdam on February 14, 2014, 08:53:06 AM
I've said it before, but this isn't a battle over dollars. It's a battle over time.

There is only so much free time in a day for people and the space once reserved for playing console games is now being crowded out by other forms of entertainment.

Pretty much. We're basically getting shat on with various forms of entertainment on the go or at home. Too much shit to watch on your streaming subscription, too many playlists on spotify, too many games in your steam list, too much blogs and websites to follow, too many new apps poping up everyday.

Seems like you either have to hit it out of the park a la GTA,CoD, Minecraft or cater to a specific niche with the according budget if you want to survive.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on February 14, 2014, 10:32:28 AM
Shitting on MS is more relevant then your doom and gloom thats years old, maybe you shouldnt click on sales if you dont want to see it. We all heard your prediction about consoles years ago already bro. Xbone vs PS4 sales is the new topic.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on February 14, 2014, 10:45:15 AM
Only thing that is petering out is the bone, ps4 is still sold out here. It sold like what, 3 million in the us in 3 months?

Im sure PS4 will still manage 70/100 million in its lifetime. Thats a great install base for games.

Have you entertained the option that this just might be a lopsided gen where Sony grabs 75% of the market?
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Human Snorenado on February 14, 2014, 10:49:30 AM
Shorter Lager: I can't imagine a world without things I'm used to
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on February 14, 2014, 10:54:12 AM
Sounds like you are projecting again COG. Keep close to Oscars teet for your opinion du jour.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on February 14, 2014, 10:58:32 AM
PS2 (January 2001) - 248K

PS3 (January 2007) - 244K

PS4 (January 2014) - 271K
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on February 14, 2014, 11:00:26 AM
January 2001 and 2007 were 5 week months btw and all pre the economic downturn.

:umad
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Damian79 on February 14, 2014, 11:06:46 AM
Now show the numbers with the wii and 360 hardware sales.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Human Snorenado on February 14, 2014, 11:11:05 AM
:umad

About a console you don't even own. So sad.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on February 14, 2014, 11:13:38 AM
:umad about a guy posting on the internet

Much sad
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Steve Youngblood on February 14, 2014, 11:18:44 AM
Quote from: Lagerless on February 14, 2014, 11:00:26 AM
January 2001 and 2007 were 5 week months btw and all pre the economic downturn.

:umad

Haha. Jesus Christ. That this was tacked on as meaningful is just embarrassing.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Third on February 14, 2014, 11:19:49 AM
Ps4 was the only platform last month that performed well. And I'm sure it's going to do well this month as well.

Nintendo and MS were distinguished mentally-challenged fellows by including mandatory gimmick shit in their hardware. Gamepad and Kinect are worthless and are only keeping the price high.

Sony's strategy is the best and they're the only relevant player left.. MS is fucked and Nintendo is a lost cause now. This is going to be a looooooooong ass gen for our beloved xturds and ntards. The bitter tears are already pouring.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Fifstar on February 14, 2014, 11:20:45 AM
What are the implications of the different pricing structures between the start of this and last gen? Seems like it makes the sitaution even worse for the current gen, as systems overall were more expensive.

PS3 was 500/600$ and 360 was 300/400$

Now PS4 400$ vs XBO 500$


The core 360 was cheaper than any current option but if adjusted for inflation it's close to the price for the PS4. Don't really know how big the impact of the cheaper models was.

Also there was stronger competition from the gen before back then, as the ps2 was a younger product and cheaper than 360/ps3 are now. Although you can see that as a positive if you only look at the "families".
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: headwalk on February 14, 2014, 11:35:34 AM
okay, so if they were selling every unit they could produce and topped out at 270k, what will this month look like now that we're two weeks in and PS4 stock is readily available?
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Joe Molotov on February 14, 2014, 11:38:28 AM
Quote from: Esch on February 14, 2014, 11:22:48 AM
emotionally invest in toy manufacturers, brehs
.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Steve Youngblood on February 14, 2014, 11:41:35 AM
Quote from: headwalk on February 14, 2014, 11:35:34 AM
okay, so if they were selling every unit they could produce and topped out at 270k, what will this month look like now that we're two weeks in and PS4 stock is readily available?

Well... it's available at Amazon. So that's something. But to be completely fair, I do notice it still unavailable at some retailers I go to. So, I'm not sure we can completely discount supply constraints. However, I do agree that any supply constraints that do exist are not in any way crippling that sales number. One may not be able to just walk into any store and buy one, but I'd say for a month or so it's been to the point where if you wanted one and were able to put any effort into it, you'd be able to find one before too long.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on February 14, 2014, 11:50:28 AM
Quote from: Esch on February 14, 2014, 11:22:48 AM
emotionally invest in pyrrhic victories, brehs

Since were all going to die its all a phyrric victory anyway
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Tasty on February 14, 2014, 11:52:16 AM
Quote from: Lagerless on February 14, 2014, 11:50:28 AM
Quote from: Esch on February 14, 2014, 11:22:48 AM
emotionally invest in pyrrhic victories, brehs

Since were all going to die its all a phyrric victory anyway

:what
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Human Snorenado on February 14, 2014, 11:57:05 AM
Lookout guys, we've got a philosophizer up in hurr
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Shaka Khan on February 14, 2014, 12:04:57 PM
At least Methodis is capable of being funny and Third is hot. :hitler
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on February 14, 2014, 12:07:18 PM
Quote from: Creepy Old Guy on February 14, 2014, 11:57:05 AM
Lookout guys, we've got a philosophizer up in hurr

Its very hard to treat you seriously liking Esch post about phyrric victories when you grind your life away in games like PAD and D3 in the most basic form of treadmill there is in the gaming industry.

Cog short: like post about phyrric victories, spend 2000 hours on pad and d3
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: AdmiralViscen on February 14, 2014, 12:13:09 PM
Quote from: Lagerless on February 14, 2014, 12:07:18 PM
Quote from: Creepy Old Guy on February 14, 2014, 11:57:05 AM
Lookout guys, we've got a philosophizer up in hurr

Its very hard to treat you seriously liking Esch post about phyrric victories when you grind your life away in games like PAD and D3 in the most basic form of treadmill there is in the gaming industry.

Cog short: like post about phyrric victories, spend 2000 hours on pad and d3

mad feels son
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Tasty on February 14, 2014, 12:17:24 PM
Despite all our chores, gaming's still just a rat on the Bore
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on February 14, 2014, 12:20:08 PM
Quote from: Esch on February 14, 2014, 12:14:35 PM
Its all treadmills. All gaming is is a bunch of exercises in 01010111001000101 hamster wheeling designed to make your pathetic dopamine receptors fire.

:patel

If thats all you are interested in might as well get hooked on xtc.

Really fire them, not just tickle.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Himu on February 14, 2014, 12:20:20 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on February 13, 2014, 10:38:56 PM
loool so yeah, last gen this time, 2 million, this gen, less than 770k

where's 360, ps3, 3ds, and wii numbers.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Mupepe on February 14, 2014, 12:40:15 PM
I don't care about sales...

Sony's numbers are great because...
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: cool breeze on February 14, 2014, 01:08:21 PM
at this point if someone haven't bought a 'next gen' console I don't know why they would until fall.  not much coming out between now and then.  and the few are 'cross gen' games like metal gear, titanfall and teef.  I remember the 360 having more in its initial months than these two combined.

and how did that tomb raider port do?
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Baiano19 on February 14, 2014, 01:16:03 PM
Quote from: Esch on February 14, 2014, 12:14:35 PM
Its all treadmills. All gaming is is a bunch of exercises in 01010111001000101 hamster wheeling designed to make your pathetic dopamine receptors fire.

:patel

damn, this board is getting way too deep.

And yeah, we all have seen the signs, the rapture of console games is coming. and I really find hilarious when people believe the PS4 will be the next PS2.

I for one welcome our new QOL overlord
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: AdmiralViscen on February 14, 2014, 01:16:05 PM
Quote from: fryinghigh on February 14, 2014, 01:08:21 PM
at this point if someone haven't bought a 'next gen' console I don't know why they would until fall.  not much coming out between now and then.  and the few are 'cross gen' games like metal gear, titanfall and teef.  I remember the 360 having more in its initial months than these two combined.

and how did that tomb raider port do?

2:1 PS4 over XBO. It doesn't matter if this is 20:10 or 200,000:100,000.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Himu on February 14, 2014, 01:20:30 PM
Quote from: Lagerless on February 14, 2014, 10:58:32 AM
PS2 (January 2001) - 248K

PS3 (January 2007) - 244K

PS4 (January 2014) - 271K

i'd actually like to see a rebuttal to this
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Third on February 14, 2014, 01:31:10 PM
You can't really downplay Ps4's performance- it's doing great.

People are already proclaiming the death of console gaming, without thinking about the fact that both Wii U and Xdone are tanking because they're terrible consoles with offensive value.

Both ntards and xfans are so mad and bitter nowadays. They will probably become PC gamers now.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Baiano19 on February 14, 2014, 01:34:20 PM
actually it was 85k PS4 and Xbox1

so 56k to 29k give or take



lol Esch.

Yeah, next 2 or 3 months will be devastating for some people here.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Himu on February 14, 2014, 01:35:31 PM
Quote from: Baiano19 on February 14, 2014, 01:34:20 PM
actually it was 85k PS4 and Xbox1

so 56k to 29k give or take

who are you talking to? Viscen?
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Baiano19 on February 14, 2014, 01:42:36 PM
Quote from: Formerly Known As Himuro on February 14, 2014, 01:35:31 PM
Quote from: Baiano19 on February 14, 2014, 01:34:20 PM
actually it was 85k PS4 and Xbox1

so 56k to 29k give or take

who are you talking to? Viscen?

yeah,

those are creamsugar number for TR final edition of whatever
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: ToxicAdam on February 14, 2014, 02:09:45 PM
I'm as guilty as anyone else trying to analyze this industry with small sample sizes, but it's actually kind of silly.

Using January sales is like judging Hollywood based on their February movie results. Nov./Dec. 2014 will really be the measuring stick to see the overall trends.

Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Himu on February 14, 2014, 02:37:11 PM
I don't think that is true at all. The numbers are still lower than 2007 and software is still down.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Fifstar on February 14, 2014, 03:09:14 PM
Quote from: Formerly Known As Himuro on February 14, 2014, 01:20:30 PM
Quote from: Lagerless on February 14, 2014, 10:58:32 AM
PS2 (January 2001) - 248K

PS3 (January 2007) - 244K

PS4 (January 2014) - 271K

i'd actually like to see a rebuttal to this

Average* price of ps3 models was 550$ + about 20% inflation= 660$ (*not really average because I don't know what the actual split between the 20 and 60gb model was)

So ps4 is selling about the same as it's predecessor even though it's 40% cheaper and competition is wildly unattractive.

If you compare it with the Xbox360 because it was the more interesting option in 2007, it's selling a bit less at a slightly lower price point (420$ average* inflation adjusted for the Xbox360.

Taking into account that 2007 was a 5 weeks month and a still likely effect of supply constraint this january, numbers for PS4 look actually respectable.

The other thing is that just because one piece of hardware is selling okay/good it's not evidence that the industry as a whole has a healthy outlook, considering that the numbers for the whole industry are way down GoG.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on February 14, 2014, 03:37:26 PM
You are forgetting a few things.

1. Unemployment in the US is 44% higher in january 2014 then in january 2007 (6.6% vs 4.6%)

2. Adjusted for inflation the average wage in the USA has fallen since 2007 as well meaning even those with jobs have less to spend (wages rose around 10% vs 14.6% combined inflation)

3. After years of recession the consumer sentiment index is almost 20 points lower then back then

Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Steve Contra on February 14, 2014, 03:54:58 PM
I honestly forget what a hopeless Sonytard Lager is until posts like these pop up.  I mean I get that he didn't do that much research for that post, but really anything above nothing at all is too much.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on February 14, 2014, 03:58:12 PM
Playstation numbers have never been better so I didn't have to do any research to defend sony.

I think you are confused.

These are just extra factors of why sales are down (next to the obvious ones like that handhelds are dead, and that xbo and wiiu are shit)
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Human Snorenado on February 14, 2014, 03:59:08 PM
Quote from: Lagerless on February 14, 2014, 03:58:12 PM
Playstation numbers have never been better so I didn't have to do any research to defend sony.

I think you are confused.

:gurl
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on February 14, 2014, 04:01:12 PM
PS2 (January 2001) - 248K

PS3 (January 2007) - 244K

PS4 (January 2014) - 271K
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Human Snorenado on February 14, 2014, 04:03:40 PM
NEVER. Not when PS2 was doing, like, 1 milion units a month or some shit. NEVER.

Yup. Methodis without the occasional humor.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Third on February 14, 2014, 04:09:07 PM
Quote from: Creepy Old Guy on February 14, 2014, 04:03:40 PM
NEVER. Not when PS2 was doing, like, 1 milion units a month or some shit. NEVER.

 :umad


But it is the best Playstation launch so far. Numbers don't lie

What it'll do next is a different thing. Matching Ps2 numbers could get hard.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Steve Youngblood on February 14, 2014, 04:18:31 PM
Quote from: Lagerless on February 14, 2014, 04:01:12 PM
PS2 (January 2001) - 248K

PS3 (January 2007) - 244K

PS4 (January 2014) - 271K

When I see that the wildly successful PS2 was a mere 4K ahead of the PS3, that tells me something about the PS2 numbers. Mind you, I get that it's somewhat difficult to assert that the PS4 is any sort of immediate danger. But I think the crux of the issue is to recognize the difficulties plaguing the industry and why that's bad. Yes, in a vacuum, 271 doesn't seem alarming at all. After all, November and December were great, and there's also a problem of supply at least to some extent (I already argued I don't think it was a major problem, but let's just agree it was a problem). So, by itself, sure, let's say the PS4 did all right.

The problem is that the posted number really isn't something to write home about. The Wii U is bombing, and the Xbox One doesn't seem to be sitting very pretty based on that January drop. If console gaming was still sitting pretty, it would stand to reason that all those people who aren't buying Wii Us and aren't buying Xbones would instead be buying PS4s since it seems to be the console darling right now. And when the current king of the hill -- the perceived clear victor at the onset -- is only posting that? That's... not good.

But sure, go PlayStation.

Banderas.gif

 :bow Kaz :bow2
 :bow Cerny :bow2

#GreatnessHasArrived

And yes, I know this post is a waste of everyone's time. Leave me alone!
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on February 14, 2014, 04:21:29 PM
Quote from: Creepy Old Guy on February 14, 2014, 04:03:40 PM
NEVER. Not when PS2 was doing, like, 1 milion units a month or some shit. NEVER.

Yup. Methodis without the occasional humor.

Obviously im talking about the launch, since thats like what weve been talking about.

You always this anal?
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Takao on February 14, 2014, 04:30:46 PM
How often is #10 on the NPD software list below 100k?
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Human Snorenado on February 14, 2014, 04:41:28 PM
Quote from: Takao on February 14, 2014, 04:30:46 PM
How often is #10 on the NPD software list below 100k?

Looky looky, someone actually asking a SMART fucking question.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Third on February 14, 2014, 04:51:12 PM
Dunno about the Ps3, but the Ps4 seemed to have supply issues in january. It was definitely supply constrained during december in NA. The console was never as readily available as the X1 anyway. And it still seems to be hard to find a Ps4 in a local store. Amazon seems to be in stock, though. The Ps4 has been the #1 best selling product there for days now.

The drought is even more severe in mainland Europe. I'm sure Sony wanted to take over MS' main territories first by providing those regions with more stock. But seeing how Sony took over NA and UK in a matter of two months, I expect the rest of the world to get more Ps4 stock soon. Although I'm not so sure considering the console is launching in Japan next week.

I'm still waiting for my Ps4. Will probably be delivered in march here.   :-\

People are really underestimating Ps4's demand and popularity in this thread. I'm certain the console will outsell the X1 by 2:1 WW when it's all said and done.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Steve Youngblood on February 14, 2014, 04:55:00 PM
Quote from: Third on February 14, 2014, 04:51:12 PM
People are really underestimating Ps4's demand and popularity in this thread. I'm certain the console will outsell the X1 by 2:1 WW when it's all said and done.

I think what you are missing is that some are actually trying to look at the bigger picture here and not just looking to ejaculate at the thought of PS4 crushing the Xbone and Wii U. Let's look at this:

Quote
I'm certain the console will outsell the X1 by 2:1 WW when it's all said and done.

That may quite possibly prove correct. What you are ignoring is that many are noting that pulverizing the X1 in such a fashion may not ultimately prove to be that impressive of a feat.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on February 14, 2014, 05:01:19 PM
When you are watching sports do you complain that the current season isn't as good as 25 years ago or are you just happy that your team won?
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Steve Contra on February 14, 2014, 05:02:05 PM
What an odd analogy
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Third on February 14, 2014, 05:03:03 PM
I'm definitely ejaculating at the thought of PS4 crushing the Xbone and Wii U. I won't lie

Nintendo has released an awful lastgen console with a useselss Gamepad that no one wants.
MS tried to fuck us over with their DRM shit. And the console is less powerfull but still costs more than its direct competitor. Xbox Live is a scam and Kinect sucks.

Both Nintendo and MS deserve to bomb and rethink their strategies. I'm glad both are tanking in their current state.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Steve Youngblood on February 14, 2014, 05:03:50 PM
Quote from: Lagerless on February 14, 2014, 05:01:19 PM
When you are watching sports do you complain that the current season isn't as good as 25 years ago or are you just happy that your team won?

I'm not much of a sports guy myself. However, I can empathize with that far more than I can being emotionally invested in a corporation that manufactures video game consoles to the point where it seems like a personal victory for you when a company you like is doing relatively less poorly than the other guys.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on February 14, 2014, 05:05:02 PM
Sports teams are companies too btw

Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on February 14, 2014, 05:04:56 PM

Quote from: Takao on February 14, 2014, 04:30:46 PM
How often is #10 on the NPD software list below 100k?

It's been leading to this for a while, but yes, this is the first time that's happened in at least a decade.  Can't be arsed to go back farther.

Then again 10 years ago digital wasnt up to 50% of sales and people had jobs.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Human Snorenado on February 14, 2014, 05:10:27 PM
Quote from: Lagerless on February 14, 2014, 05:01:19 PM
When you are watching sports do you complain that the current season isn't as good as 25 years ago or are you just happy that your team won?

If you're not a knuckle dragging fuckstick, you might look around and notice that although you won, attendance across the league is down and maybe someday, you won't have any more games to go to to cheer your team on.

Just a thought, which I know isn't your forte, but hey.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Steve Contra on February 14, 2014, 05:10:58 PM
And if digital sales were 50% of sales on consoles...hoo boy we'd be hearing about it.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Steve Youngblood on February 14, 2014, 05:13:13 PM
Quote from: Lagerless on February 14, 2014, 05:05:02 PM
Sports teams are companies too btw

Touché?
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Steve Youngblood on February 14, 2014, 05:22:06 PM
Quote from: Esch on February 14, 2014, 05:12:43 PM
Don't worry, stanning sports teams is plenty manchildish

Yeah, but I can kind of understand the appeal. We are odd. STLBORE is a group of weirdos who -- despite living in the heart of Cardinals nation -- don't give a shit at all about the Cardinals. And I don't feel bad about that because, speaking personally, baseball is fucking dull. But I can see the appeal of getting on the bandwagon. You go to downtown St. Louis on a nice weekend day when the Cardinals are playing in town, and you'll encounter tens of thousands of red shirts all united with a common purpose. It makes sense. I wouldn't mind getting on board and having a beer with fellow cards fans as I go crazy when that one guy hits a homerun or that other guy strikes someone out with his patented breaking pitch. Unfortunately, I find baseball fucking dull. So instead of getting swept up in the hoopla, I find myself wishing people would shut up about the fucking Cardinals.

And I think the kind of person that is posting Banderas reaction gifs to PS4 versus Xbox One sales numbers unironically is on a whole 'nother level.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on February 14, 2014, 05:22:29 PM
Quote from: Creepy Old Guy on February 14, 2014, 05:10:27 PM
Quote from: Lagerless on February 14, 2014, 05:01:19 PM
When you are watching sports do you complain that the current season isn't as good as 25 years ago or are you just happy that your team won?

If you're not a knuckle dragging fuckstick, you might look around and notice that although you won, attendance across the league is down and maybe someday, you won't have any more games to go to to cheer your team on.

Just a thought, which I know isn't your forte, but hey.

At least make sense COG when you attempt to be smart.

There is always amateur sports which will never go away as long as people play.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on February 14, 2014, 06:42:25 PM
The tablet and smartphone explosion also refute the economic downturn angle.

There's not a lot of incentive to buy either the PS4 or the Bone right now.  The games aren't very good on them.  It seems like the only game that is worth a shit that is out now for either console that you can't get anywhere else is Dead Rising 3 and that is hardly worth paying $560 + tax for.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Human Snorenado on February 14, 2014, 06:53:25 PM
Quote from: Lagerless on February 14, 2014, 05:22:29 PM
Quote from: Creepy Old Guy on February 14, 2014, 05:10:27 PM
Quote from: Lagerless on February 14, 2014, 05:01:19 PM
When you are watching sports do you complain that the current season isn't as good as 25 years ago or are you just happy that your team won?

If you're not a knuckle dragging fuckstick, you might look around and notice that although you won, attendance across the league is down and maybe someday, you won't have any more games to go to to cheer your team on.

Just a thought, which I know isn't your forte, but hey.

At least make sense COG when you attempt to be smart.

There is always amateur sports which will never go away as long as people play.

I look forward to your turn as an Ouya fanboy then, I guess. One of us isn't making any fucking sense but it sure as shit isn't me.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Damian79 on February 14, 2014, 06:57:51 PM
Quote from: Formerly Known As Himuro on February 14, 2014, 01:20:30 PM
Quote from: Lagerless on February 14, 2014, 10:58:32 AM
PS2 (January 2001) - 248K

PS3 (January 2007) - 244K

PS4 (January 2014) - 271K

i'd actually like to see a rebuttal to this

January 2007 NPD
Wii - 436,000
360 - 294,000
PS3 - 244,000
PS2 - 299,000
GC - 34,000

January 2014
PS4 - 271K
XB1 - 141K
PS3 ~53.5K
Wii U ~49K
360 ~48.5K
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Steve Contra on February 14, 2014, 07:18:40 PM
Incredibly healthy industry.  Nothing but good times for Sony from here on out.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: CajoleJuice on February 14, 2014, 07:22:46 PM
holy shit :lol
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Himu on February 14, 2014, 07:31:03 PM
Quote from: Damian79 on February 14, 2014, 06:57:51 PM
Quote from: Formerly Known As Himuro on February 14, 2014, 01:20:30 PM
Quote from: Lagerless on February 14, 2014, 10:58:32 AM
PS2 (January 2001) - 248K

PS3 (January 2007) - 244K

PS4 (January 2014) - 271K

i'd actually like to see a rebuttal to this

January 2007 NPD
Wii - 436,000
360 - 294,000
PS3 - 244,000
PS2 - 299,000
GC - 34,000

January 2014
PS4 - 271K
XB1 - 141K
PS3 ~53.5K
Wii U ~49K
360 ~48.5K

We already covered 2007 - the industry is in decline. That's obvious. I was more interested in his ps2 argument.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Human Snorenado on February 14, 2014, 07:33:46 PM
In 2007, Sony only had 25% of the next gen market. In 2014, they've got over 58%! Good news for Sony, you guys are all full of shit. #lagerposting

Himu- Oscar sufficiently addressed that above.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Steve Contra on February 14, 2014, 07:34:26 PM
His ps2 argument has been covered, it was actually supply constrained.  Like no one could get their hands on one, just like the Wii.  Doing marginally better than the ps3 isn't really anything to trumpet, especially when the rest of the industry is burning down (I doubt people realize that Sony needs the rest of the industry to be healthy if it's going to sell at mediocre levels).
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Shaka Khan on February 14, 2014, 07:34:44 PM
Quote from: Mary Tyler Whore on February 14, 2014, 06:42:25 PM
The tablet and smartphone explosion also refute the economic downturn angle.

Here's a chart for illustration...

(http://i.imgur.com/PuQf9bF.gif)
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Himu on February 14, 2014, 08:01:36 PM
I know the ps2 argument was covered by oscar. But Damian responded like a page late and I had to tell him it was old news.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Damian79 on February 14, 2014, 08:42:39 PM
I thought you wanted numbers.  My bad.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on February 15, 2014, 04:24:55 AM
Seems Sony will be the last man standing after MS and Nintendo bite the dust during the apocalypse.

One console future will be here, through natural selection.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: AdmiralViscen on February 15, 2014, 09:01:34 AM
If PS4 doesn't turn a profit pronto its going to become a subsidiary of the VAIO subsidiary
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Third on February 15, 2014, 09:24:51 AM
The thirst isn't over yet.

(http://abload.de/img/ps4stockfeb2014wxk7h.png)

Still out of stock in basically all retailers. Only $499 bundles left since today



Amazon out of stock again (http://www.amazon.com/PlayStation-4-Console/dp/B00BGA9WK2/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1392474022&sr=8-2&keywords=playstation+4)

Ps4 is still #1 in Amazon, Xdone is #27


Can't wait to see february NPD.  :neogaf
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Shaka Khan on February 15, 2014, 09:28:03 AM
:drudge :drudge :drudge
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=769583

MCD on suicide watch.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Third on February 15, 2014, 09:34:44 AM
I hope it's true. Sony needs competition. They're the only player left now.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: MCD on February 15, 2014, 09:39:06 AM
Quote from: Shaka Khan on February 15, 2014, 09:28:03 AM
:drudge :drudge :drudge
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=769583

MCD on suicide watch.
But I already have Amazon Prime.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Shaka Khan on February 15, 2014, 09:40:25 AM
But have you been fellating it to completion as much as instructed? Better start pronto.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: headwalk on February 15, 2014, 09:40:58 AM
Quote from: Shaka Khan on February 15, 2014, 09:28:03 AM
:drudge :drudge :drudge
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=769583

MCD on suicide watch.

hilarious as it would be, that guy is a total rainmaker and an attention whore.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Third on February 15, 2014, 10:06:40 AM
(http://i1351.photobucket.com/albums/p787/RyanPierreQ/ScreenShot2014-02-15at94529AM_zpsac9df5b1.png)

"Hurry, it won't last long!"

Maybe they're right. And I'm not talking about supply.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Joe Molotov on February 15, 2014, 10:34:17 AM
Quote from: MCD on February 15, 2014, 09:39:06 AM
Quote from: Shaka Khan on February 15, 2014, 09:28:03 AM
:drudge :drudge :drudge
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=769583

MCD on suicide watch.
But I already have Amazon Prime.

Now you're gonna need Amazon Gold.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Himu on February 15, 2014, 10:55:41 AM
i'm sorry to do this but BAN THIRD
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: thisismyusername on February 15, 2014, 11:08:05 AM
MODS HALP.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Himu on February 15, 2014, 11:16:27 AM
Come on mods. Back in the day you guys would have banned him and maybe others too because they're ruining discussion, much like TBS and Diablos did. I know you guys don't really wanna moderate here because for the most part Bore is a self moderating forum, but this is a textbook case of a need of a ban or at least a ban warning.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Third on February 15, 2014, 11:33:37 AM
Huh, what did I do

:umad
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Mupepe on February 15, 2014, 11:34:18 AM
Third and Lagerless have both been worthless posters for over 3 months now but ignore is there for a reason
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Shaka Khan on February 15, 2014, 11:36:20 AM
Quote from: Third on February 15, 2014, 11:33:37 AM
Huh, what did I do

:umad

Posting like a bitch, and not enough nudes.

Who you even arguing with, bitch?

How about you show us your cock, bitch?
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Human Snorenado on February 15, 2014, 11:39:32 AM
Whoa whoa whoa

Let's not insult all of the noble bitches of the world by lumping them in with Third
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Mupepe on February 15, 2014, 11:43:14 AM
Would saying Third is to Sony what Flame of Callandor was to Ron Paul be accurate?
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Third on February 15, 2014, 11:51:17 AM
You guys are no fun  :'(

spoiler (click to show/hide)
(http://i.minus.com/jQlr4XKSBkivx.png)
[close]
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on February 15, 2014, 12:10:26 PM
I just made a list of games I want to play on the ps3 and I counted 44. This doesnt even include PC games which would probably put it over 50 easy.

Shit is just insane, ive already started 5 of them.

I think this is the biggest problem the industry has, enthousiasts that wont pay 60 euro a game anymore. My buddies are the same really. Last game I paid 60 for was Fifa 14 and before that Diablo 3. Thats one full priced game a year.

Meanwhile I bought around 10 second hand ps3 games for under a 100.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cascade on February 15, 2014, 12:56:15 PM
Quote from: Mupepe on February 15, 2014, 11:34:18 AM
Third and Lagerless have both been worthless posters for over 3 months now but ignore is there for a reason
Don't forget Methodis, he's just as bad. Why was he ever unlepered anyway?
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Stoney Mason on February 15, 2014, 03:44:59 PM
At least the worst of the shit posting has been confined to this thread recently for the most part.

Yeah. Next gen has made the quality of bad posters even worse. But I also feel like people feed the trolls. And that only encourages them even more. (I've certainly been guilty of this myself)
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on February 15, 2014, 03:57:24 PM
Quote from: Stoney Mason on February 15, 2014, 03:44:59 PM
At least the worst of the shit posting has been confined to this thread recently for the most part.

Yeah. Next gen has made the quality of bad posters even worse. But I also feel like people feed the trolls. And that only encourages them even more. (I've certainly been guilty of this myself)

I think the reason why the bolded exists is because there is now an air of desperation with these fanboys.  Sony is in terrible shape financially, investors want Microsoft to kill the Xbox brand, and the Wii U fell flat on its face with no sign of improvement.  Add in the failure that is the Vita and the 3DS tracking below the GBA, and you get a lot of dumb shit getting posted.

As I touched on before, the days of Microsoft vs. Sony vs. Nintendo are over.  It's now PC vs. traditional consoles/handhelds vs. smartphones/tablets.  Microsoft, Sony, and Nintendo are going to be fighting over a smaller piece of the pie that appears to be shrinking as we speak.  Doesn't mean that all three consoles are going to be failures but the 100m each that was predicted is laughable.  100m combined maybe, but not each.  I hate touchscreen gaming but looks like it is the future, it is what it is.  I can either play the thousands of good games I never got around to playing, stick to the PC, or move on from gaming in general.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Mupepe on February 15, 2014, 04:10:31 PM
I assume console gaming will always be around. I'm not much of a PC gamer and I get bored with handheld gaming for some reason, so I will just go with the flow of console gaming. I'm not interested in buying a ton of "AAA" games anyways or multiple consoles so a shrinking market and consolidated industry will probably suit me just fine.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: magus on February 15, 2014, 05:03:32 PM
Quote from: Mupepe on February 15, 2014, 04:10:31 PM
I assume console gaming will always be around. I'm not much of a PC gamer and I get bored with handheld gaming for some reason, so I will just go with the flow of console gaming. I'm not interested in buying a ton of "AAA" games anyways or multiple consoles so a shrinking market and consolidated industry will probably suit me just fine.

honestly console gaming existed because japanese console games were a thing... final fantasy, metal gear, all of the arcadey namco games like ridge racer and tekken, the konami stuff... with all of this gone there is no point into having a console other than premium price's
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Human Snorenado on February 15, 2014, 05:09:05 PM
Quote from: magus on February 15, 2014, 05:03:32 PM
Quote from: Mupepe on February 15, 2014, 04:10:31 PM
I assume console gaming will always be around. I'm not much of a PC gamer and I get bored with handheld gaming for some reason, so I will just go with the flow of console gaming. I'm not interested in buying a ton of "AAA" games anyways or multiple consoles so a shrinking market and consolidated industry will probably suit me just fine.

honestly console gaming existed because japanese console games were a thing... final fantasy, metal gear, all of the arcadey namco games like ridge racer and tekken, the konami stuff... with all of this gone there is no point into having a console other than premium price's

:ufup :uguu
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Stoney Mason on February 15, 2014, 05:20:00 PM
Quote from: magus on February 15, 2014, 05:03:32 PM
Quote from: Mupepe on February 15, 2014, 04:10:31 PM
I assume console gaming will always be around. I'm not much of a PC gamer and I get bored with handheld gaming for some reason, so I will just go with the flow of console gaming. I'm not interested in buying a ton of "AAA" games anyways or multiple consoles so a shrinking market and consolidated industry will probably suit me just fine.

honestly console gaming existed because japanese console games were a thing... final fantasy, metal gear, all of the arcadey namco games like ridge racer and tekken, the konami stuff... with all of this gone there is no point into having a console other than premium price's

I've owned consoles all my life. Pre-Japan and post Japan. And you couldn't be more wrong. Which is fine. We are entitled to like what we like.

I will always game on a mainstream gaming device. Whether that is a "console" device made by some mega corporation or a very slimmed down PC. PC games are great. But there will ALWAYS be some kind of device to play games on that simplifies the process compared to a full PC. If the current consoles morph into something else or become a hybrid with something else who cares. Gaming is here to stay. It's not like the 80's where people thought for a short time maybe it was all a fad.

Which is why I don't care which mega-corporation puts out the device. I've owned two Microsoft consoles in a row. And if MS pulled out of the market tomorrow I wouldn't care. Because somebody will fill that void. '

Sales are fine as an example of understanding reality. I think its very healthy in that regard so people understand why a company like Sega pulled out versus being shocked and confused when such things happen. But sales for cheerleading purposes has never interested me. In fact its rather weird behavior but people are entitled to their own weird behaviors. Certainly I have mine. As long as it doesn't shit up actual threads about actual games then I'm fine with it. That was a problem on here for most of last year unfortunately. Things recently seem to have cleared up to a large degree thank god as people recognize who the shitbirds are and the novelty of the whole thing has wore thin.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Mupepe on February 15, 2014, 05:36:04 PM
I pay the "premium price" for consoles for simplicity. Plug it in, sit on my couch and throw a disc in to play. I know how to build a PC and I have spent my fair share of time playing PC games. Sometimes I want to buy one so I can get the sweet new graphics and resolutions. But then I go into threads like the Titan fall one on GAF where people are troubleshooting drivers and shit. I can't be bothered honestly. I'll stick with whatever the console market turns into. I'm OCD enough as it is. I don't need PC gaming tweaks in my arsenal of ways to waste time.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Shaka Khan on February 15, 2014, 07:54:40 PM
But isn't this their first worldwide launch? 4.2 million units by the end of December is a lot more than what old Sony would be able to secure, by your own admission if I'm not mistaken. There could be strategically refreshing their channels to paint a more positive outlook but I do believe they're trying ship as much as they can (availability patterns among retailers is one sign) especially when the xbone is readily available everywhere.
 
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on February 15, 2014, 08:01:05 PM
the fun e thing is that its over for xbox barring a fukkin miracle
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Himu on February 15, 2014, 08:11:40 PM
Quote from: Mupepe on February 15, 2014, 04:10:31 PM
I assume console gaming will always be around. I'm not much of a PC gamer and I get bored with handheld gaming for some reason, so I will just go with the flow of console gaming. I'm not interested in buying a ton of "AAA" games anyways or multiple consoles so a shrinking market and consolidated industry will probably suit me just fine.

I think consoles will still exist but the AAA games are going to fuck most developers and pubs that aren't people like Rockstar and Blizzard. Indie, f2p are the future. most developers will make an attempt trying to chase GTAV money and fail in the process or adapt and move on to making cheaper titles. Indie games will pick up the scraps and a new industry will be born.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Shaka Khan on February 15, 2014, 08:16:43 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on February 15, 2014, 08:08:23 PM
Quote from: Shaka Khan on February 15, 2014, 07:54:40 PM
But isn't this their first worldwide launch? 4.2 million units by the end of December is a lot more than what old Sony would be able to secure, by your own admission if I'm not mistaken. There could be strategically refreshing their channels to paint a more positive outlook but I do believe they're trying ship as much as they can (availability patterns among retailers is one sign) especially when the xbone is readily available everywhere.

pff they're not even launching in japan, so this is basically just like last gen where they had no problem shipping enough ps3s to meet demand in two major regions

i think it's pretty obvious sony's deliberately choking the channels to try to recreate that ps2/wii magic with their little lame duck since they know they have no viable competition

Last gen it was NA and a 90k-ish initial shipment for JP. Europe followed much later. Right? Iirc, numbers have shows that this launch has a shipment size and # of launch regions way beyond the PS 2 and PS1 launches (spreading themselves too thin is a fair criticism though).

The reason behind neglecting Japan for a few months is understandable as well— that region doesn't give two shits about consoles anymore and has no console competitor other than their own PS3.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Shaka Khan on February 15, 2014, 08:30:14 PM
Quality of hardware has definitely taken a hit. Cheap, wobbly plastic and a rubber finish thinner than Third's dad's condoms.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Mupepe on February 15, 2014, 08:44:03 PM
Quote from: Formerly Known As Himuro on February 15, 2014, 08:11:40 PM
Quote from: Mupepe on February 15, 2014, 04:10:31 PM
I assume console gaming will always be around. I'm not much of a PC gamer and I get bored with handheld gaming for some reason, so I will just go with the flow of console gaming. I'm not interested in buying a ton of "AAA" games anyways or multiple consoles so a shrinking market and consolidated industry will probably suit me just fine.

I think consoles will still exist but the AAA games are going to fuck most developers and pubs that aren't people like Rockstar and Blizzard. Indie, f2p are the future. most developers will make an attempt trying to chase GTAV money and fail in the process or adapt and move on to making cheaper titles. Indie games will pick up the scraps and a new industry will be born.
so nothing of value will be lost. Most AAA games are AAA turds. Sounds like we'll all be better
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Himu on February 15, 2014, 10:27:25 PM
I can do that without investing in PC games. Most of the great indie titles are on consoles.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Himu on February 15, 2014, 10:38:29 PM
You're right. It is true. Can't wait to play Spelunky tonight.

On my ps3. :umad
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Mupepe on February 15, 2014, 10:46:44 PM
Quote from: Esch on February 15, 2014, 10:09:29 PM
Quote from: Mupepe on February 15, 2014, 08:44:03 PM

so nothing of value will be lost. Most AAA games are AAA turds. Sounds like we'll all be better

if you dont like AAA games, might be time to give PC gaming another look :yeshrug
if the amount of games on consoles ever gets dry enough for me. Not currently there yet though.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Great Rumbler on February 15, 2014, 11:07:42 PM
The game I've played more than any game since Skyrim, is a PC exclusive: Might & Magic X.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Himu on February 15, 2014, 11:08:50 PM
Hate people shilling platforms unless it is PC, brehs
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Himu on February 15, 2014, 11:17:06 PM
That's a fact, but it isn't to the point where you NEED a PC to find an alternative to AAA gaming. The best medium right now is a combo of PC and console, so the PC fellatio comes off as distinguished mentally-challenged and a tiny bit less annoying than Third/Methodis.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Himu on February 15, 2014, 11:26:47 PM
If you can think of any other group who seriously gushes whenever their platform is doing well (any Archie post) aside from Third/Methodis/Lager I'd like to know. Can't wait for the next 1 million PC seller and the PC master race to rub this fact in everyone's faces, but yeah, definitely not as annoying as the ps4 sloots.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: headwalk on February 15, 2014, 11:44:39 PM
it's not that i want to talk about PC. i just don't want to talk about consoles anymore. it brings me down.

it's best just to remember the good times.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Himu on February 16, 2014, 12:09:46 AM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on February 15, 2014, 11:44:38 PM
dislikes people ignoring non-AAA on consoles

completely ignores the mobile market

I don't wholly ignore mobile. Like with PC, I simply do not play on it that often. But unlike pc, i have a lot less nice things to say about mobile. It isn't that I ignore mobile, the main issue is that i have android. The Room 2 is on android and I got that. If something is on mobile and interests me I'll support it.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Rahxephon91 on February 16, 2014, 12:11:35 AM
Eh I just don't care about indies. Very few have what I want. I enjoyed Outlast and Bastion, but you can get those on consoles as well.

Then again I don't have a problem with AAA gaming that everyone likes to bash(also annoying). Whatever I like cutscenes, movie like experinces, and whatever. Don't get that in indie games.

PC gaming is fine even great, but it's fans are the most annoying. I don't need to be reminded how awesome the PC is. How stupid consoles are and whatever. I like PC gaming, but annoys me with how random it can be and all that tourbleshooting crap. I like console gaming because I put the disc in and it works and that's it. It's easy and conveinet.

I don't want console gaming to go away because I can't stand handhelds and mobiles. I mean I guess if it did of just devote time and money to PC and deal with it.  I don't really care what console wins as long as it's not Nintendo. Sony, MS, Apple, Amazon whatever. Whoever has games I want. If we come down to one console with just a few AAA titles well I guess that will be fine.

I do agree with Lager that all the doom and gloom is annoying, but so is being told that Xbox is dead in every thread.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Himu on February 16, 2014, 12:19:29 AM
I enjoy cutscenes, movie experiences, and other stuff as well. But most AAA are trash and are ruining the industry with their pursuit of the lowest common denominator. Games like GTAV deserve their sales. I can't say the same for games like Call of Duty: Ghosts. Variety is great and indie stands as the prime alternative to AAA. It used to be you could find other sources of mainstream gaming that weren't trying to go for big budget Hollywood experiences. B studios are dead, and most b franchises are dead. This leaves either AAA, or indie. Thankfully I can enjoy both. Bht most of my game time is spent on digital titles which are usually indie.

As for the doom and gloom, what's wrong with it? They're right. The industry is worrying and is incredibly fucked in a number of ways due to its own excess.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Stoney Mason on February 16, 2014, 12:22:12 AM
The PC guys on here are fine. They like their platform. They enjoy the games on it. They prefer it over a console. And the ribbing is done in jest mostly. Everybody has a sense a proportion and a sense of humour.

The (worst) PC guys on GAF are the most insufferable, annoying, whiny, wanna be validated group of assholes to ever walk the earth.


I feel roughly the same way about "indie games". It's fine over here. It feels in proper proportion. I couldn't tolerate GAF with every thread being a veiled guess how hip I am because I like insert X indie game.


So basically to sum up GAF sucks and the bore is much better.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Himu on February 16, 2014, 12:22:22 AM
Quote from: headwalk on February 15, 2014, 11:44:39 PM
it's not that i want to talk about PC. i just don't want to talk about consoles anymore. it brings me down.

it's best just to remember the good times.

I love PC gaming. Which is why the its ardent fan base gets to me. Then again we all have a history of tribalism. I used to do the same thing with handhelds.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Himu on February 16, 2014, 12:24:11 AM
Quote from: Stoney Mason on February 16, 2014, 12:22:12 AM
The PC guys on here are fine. They like their platform. They enjoy the games on it. They prefer it over a console. And the ribbing is done in jest mostly. Everybody has a sense a proportion and a sense of humour.

The PC guys on GAF are the most insufferable, annoying, whiny, wanna be validated group of assholes to ever walk the earth.


I feel roughly the same way about "indie games". It's fine over here. I couldn't tolerate GAF with every thread being guess how hip I am because I like Insert X indie game.


So basically to sum up GAF sucks and the bore is much better.

Sometimes you forget you're not on other sites and instantly eye roll when you see PC gamer stuff. It really becomes habit haha.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Himu on February 16, 2014, 01:14:59 AM
I've been paying a lot more attention to mobile recently to be fair. I got Flappy Doge!
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Tasty on February 16, 2014, 02:24:07 AM
:what
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Mupepe on February 16, 2014, 02:28:03 AM
Lol
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Himu on February 16, 2014, 02:54:53 AM
:smug
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on February 16, 2014, 03:33:43 AM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on February 16, 2014, 12:57:30 AM

Quote from: Formerly Known As Himuro on February 16, 2014, 12:09:46 AM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on February 15, 2014, 11:44:38 PM
dislikes people ignoring non-AAA on consoles

completely ignores the mobile market

I don't wholly ignore mobile. Like with PC, I simply do not play on it that often. But unlike pc, i have a lot less nice things to say about mobile. It isn't that I ignore mobile, the main issue is that i have android. The Room 2 is on android and I got that. If something is on mobile and interests me I'll support it.

You'd have to be paying attention to it for anything to interest.

It's like these wankers getting all hype over Minter's latest special snowflake on Vita.  You can't swing a dead cat without hitting 20 Minter-calibre releases on iOS.  Better, even.  Which is why Minter left iOS in a huff.  His shit didn't sell cuz a bunch of people do his shtick only 10x better on mobile.

Is Minter the Llamasoft guy?

Himuro you should really switch to iOS if you are a gamer, having android is like only having linux on PC cause its "so customizable" and not having anything to play.

I used to have android but I decided to go where the games are.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Himu on February 16, 2014, 03:48:48 AM
I'm going to get an iphone as soon as able. I thought I could upgrade earlier this month but, apparently not.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Rufus on February 16, 2014, 04:20:30 AM
Yup, Jeff 'Llamasoft' Minter.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on February 16, 2014, 04:23:38 AM
Good man.

I was quite shocked after the switch at the difference in choice. Demi often has scoops on nice freebies.

Just a shame there is no reliable media to know whats ok, you can only trust forums and Oscars reviews are ok too. Then again the entry price is so low its not like youre pissing away money.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on February 16, 2014, 05:44:13 AM
I do think apple could curate the store a bit more in some way, but then we might not get flappy bird.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: DCharlieJP on February 16, 2014, 09:10:29 AM
Quote
You can't swing a dead cat without hitting 20 Minter-calibre releases on iOS

you can show me anything approaching TxK in the tube shooter genre on iOS?

Also - we have to exclude the Minter games from the Minter calibre games on iOS as well!
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Himu on February 16, 2014, 10:58:19 AM
You know I've always taken your recs, seriously, Oscar. You suggested Jak 2. I bought it a week later. That's what friends do, right?
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on February 16, 2014, 11:53:16 AM
I'd be curious to see the list of good iOS games.  I hate touchscreen gaming but if there are games that use the touchscreen format well, I doubt it would be much of an issue.  However I have a hard time find good, credible iOS recommendations other than "this game isn't much but it's 99 cents."
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Raban on February 16, 2014, 11:59:02 AM
Quote from: Mary Tyler Whore on February 16, 2014, 11:53:16 AM
I'd be curious to see the list of good iOS games.  I hate touchscreen gaming but if there are games that use the touchscreen format well, I doubt it would be much of an issue.  However I have a hard time find good, credible iOS recommendations other than "this game isn't much but it's 99 cents."
start reading TouchArcade and the list will stack up in no time
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Third on February 16, 2014, 12:06:05 PM
Amazon supposedly received new Ps4 stock yesterday and it's already sold out. Amazon UK is out of stock as well.

Japan release will be next week. I'm predicting ~400k sold in its debut week.

Ps4:X1 WW sales ratio will be 2:1 by the end of the month. Crazy shit.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: headwalk on February 16, 2014, 12:17:01 PM
Quote from: Third on February 16, 2014, 12:06:05 PM
Amazon supposedly received new Ps4 stock yesterday and it's already sold out. Amazon UK is out of stock as well.

Japan release will be next week. I'm predicting ~400k sold in its debut week.

Ps4:X1 WW sales ratio will be 2:1 by the end of the month. Crazy shit.

have you ever considered playing the hearts of iron games? you get to command production, lines of supply, logistics; all in the name of the war effort. seems way more your speed than all the cinematic nonsense sony keeps pushing.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Third on February 16, 2014, 12:25:26 PM
strategy  :yuck

Supporting the winning side is much easier.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Himu on February 16, 2014, 12:27:48 PM
BAN

THIRD

goddamit someone make me mod i will end this shit NOW
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: headwalk on February 16, 2014, 12:29:56 PM
Quote from: Third on February 16, 2014, 12:25:26 PM
strategy  :yuck

Supporting the winning side is much easier.

the winners of the liberian civil war still have to live in liberia.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Third on February 16, 2014, 12:31:15 PM
Why y'all so mad?

I'm talking about sales in a sales thread. It's not my fault Nintendo and MS are bombing or that PC gaming sucks.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: thisismyusername on February 16, 2014, 12:35:08 PM
Quote from: Third on February 16, 2014, 12:31:15 PM
or that PC gaming sucks.

:ufup :comeon
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Himu on February 16, 2014, 12:41:43 PM
Joe, Demi. I have the credentials. I modded a large Square fansite in the years 2001-2005. GIVE ME MODS. BlueTsunami is MIA and Lyte Edge doesn't touch this thread. If it's not me, make it someone else. Just BAN THIRD.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Great Rumbler on February 16, 2014, 12:42:17 PM
Quote from: Formerly Known As Himuro on February 16, 2014, 12:27:48 PM
BAN

THIRD

goddamit someone make me mod i will end this shit NOW

There's a reason we have a dedicated sales thread, and it's a very good reason.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Third on February 16, 2014, 12:46:45 PM
Wow, even the Ps3 seems to be outselling the X1 worldwide  :o

MS fucked up hard. They need that middle-aged bald dude with the hoodie to lead their gaming divison again.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Beezy on February 16, 2014, 01:05:08 PM
Quote from: Formerly Known As Himuro on February 16, 2014, 12:41:43 PM
Joe, Demi. I have the credentials.
:dead
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Mupepe on February 16, 2014, 01:19:02 PM
Quote from: Formerly Known As Himuro on February 16, 2014, 12:41:43 PM
Joe, Demi. I have the credentials. I modded a large Square fansite in the years 2001-2005. GIVE ME MODS. BlueTsunami is MIA and Lyte Edge doesn't touch this thread. If it's not me, make it someone else. Just BAN THIRD.
just ignore him. You're basically egging him on with posts like this
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Himu on February 16, 2014, 01:23:51 PM
But what if I buy an xbox one instead ? :o
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Mupepe on February 16, 2014, 01:24:44 PM
Quote from: Formerly Known As Himuro on February 16, 2014, 01:23:51 PM
But what if I buy an xbox one instead ? :o
Then we can play titanfall together!! Do it!!
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Himu on February 16, 2014, 01:52:01 PM
I can thank third and lager for making me want a One.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Human Snorenado on February 16, 2014, 02:13:10 PM
I have no interest in either of the next-gen consoles for the next year or two (the PS3's announced release schedule is inarguably better than either and probably both combined) but I also have to admit, if I had the money to toss around that I would be sorely tempted to troll-purchase one just to piss those two fucksticks off.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Rufus on February 16, 2014, 02:14:32 PM
Yeah, that'll show them... :comeon
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: tiesto on February 16, 2014, 02:21:53 PM
I have like $300 worth of Gamestop giftcards burning a hole in my pocket, and I almost jumped on PS4 the few times I've seen them in stock... but it's like, the only games I'm interested in that are currently out are a graphic update to a game I didn't even get around to playing this past gen (Tomb Raider), and Defender with better particle effects...

I highly doubt MS is gonna even bother courting niche Japanese devs so even though the Xbone's lineup is more appealing to me at the moment (Dead Rising, Killer Instinct, Crimson Dragon to some extent), the PS4 is gonna end up having more of the games I'm into.

Whenever we get more firm release dates for FFXV, Witcher 3, Phantom Pain... or when we have some more captivating software announced (here's hoping we get some more news after its JP launch), then I'll be much more ready to jump.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Human Snorenado on February 16, 2014, 02:23:01 PM
Quote from: Esch on February 16, 2014, 02:21:59 PM
Buy consoles because people on the internet irritate you, brehs?

:yeshrug
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Third on February 16, 2014, 02:34:39 PM
Don't forget to buy one at Target, though

http://www.cheapassgamer.com/topic/327400-target-buy-an-xbox-one-get-a-50-gc/

They're handing out $50 giftcards to move rotting stock  :lol
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Shaka Khan on February 16, 2014, 02:42:08 PM
Everyone ITT needs to chill.

(http://i.imgur.com/Wm666G0.gif)
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Human Snorenado on February 16, 2014, 02:45:08 PM
Quote from: Third on February 16, 2014, 02:34:39 PM
Don't forget to buy one at Target, though

http://www.cheapassgamer.com/topic/327400-target-buy-an-xbox-one-get-a-50-gc/

They're handing out $50 giftcards to move rotting stock  :lol

If I do, I'ma make sure I pay cash :hitler
Title: Re: Third-kun's Sales Thread of Sales Madness
Post by: Tasty on February 16, 2014, 03:03:59 PM
Himu-chan's Sales Thread of Credentials-Having
Title: Re: Third-kun's Sales Thread of Sales Madness
Post by: Third on February 16, 2014, 03:08:25 PM
Title change  :lol

Himuro and Creepy Guy can stay mad while playing muddy low-res games with N64-era fps on their overpriced X1. This is going to become a looooong gen to some.

Talking about muddy graphics... Do you guys think Titanfall will sell the most on the X1? I think that the X1 sku will sell the most in NA. Europe wil def prefer the PC version.

Title: Re: Third-kun's Sales Thread of Sales Madness
Post by: Steve Youngblood on February 16, 2014, 03:15:22 PM
I know it doesn't make a ton of sense to expect rationality in terms of console warriors, but I find some of this stuff genuinely baffling. I know Third mentioned not even having a PS4 yet. What about Kosma? I mean, again, I know fanboys gotta fanboy, but shouldn't you at least have played the console a bit before taking glee in its success and heralding it as gaming's savior?
Title: Re: Third-kun's Sales Thread of Sales Madness
Post by: Third on February 16, 2014, 03:24:42 PM
I'm still waiting for my Ps4. The  thing is sold out in the Netherlands and in Belgium.

I tried to find one in Germany. But after visiting a few stores there and almost getting blind from all the shiny green walls of unsold X1 stock, I found out that the Ps4 is sold out in Germany as well.

I really want one, but just can't get one for the moment.
Title: Re: Third-kun's Sales Thread of All-Consuming Sales Madness [Enter at your own risk]
Post by: Shaka Khan on February 16, 2014, 03:28:51 PM
Quote from: Third on February 16, 2014, 03:24:42 PM
I'm still waiting for my Ps4. The  thing is sold out in the Netherlands and in Belgium.

I tried to find one in Germany. But after visiting a few stores there and almost getting blind from all the shiny green walls of unsold X1 stock, I found out that the Ps4 is sold out in Germany as well.

I really want one, but just can't get one for the moment.

Have you considered using tampons in the meantime to control your heavy flow?
Title: Re: Third-kun's Sales Thread of Sales Madness
Post by: Steve Youngblood on February 16, 2014, 03:29:46 PM
Quote from: Third on February 16, 2014, 03:24:42 PM
I'm still waiting for my Ps4. The  thing is sold out in the Netherlands and in Belgium.

I tried to find one in Germany. But after visiting a few stores there and almost getting blind from all the shiny green walls of unsold X1 stock, I found out that the Ps4 is sold out in Germany as well.

I really want one, but just can't get one for the moment.

That's a shame, Third. I have one and barely use it outside of watching Netflix on it. Life is unfair, isn't it?
Title: Re: Third-kun's Sales Thread of All-Consuming Sales Madness [Enter at your own risk]
Post by: Huff on February 16, 2014, 03:34:17 PM
I'm a bit of a fan of everyone's feathers getting ruffled by thirds pony deep throating.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: demi on February 16, 2014, 03:45:22 PM
Quote from: Raban on February 16, 2014, 11:59:02 AM
Quote from: Mary Tyler Whore on February 16, 2014, 11:53:16 AM
I'd be curious to see the list of good iOS games.  I hate touchscreen gaming but if there are games that use the touchscreen format well, I doubt it would be much of an issue.  However I have a hard time find good, credible iOS recommendations other than "this game isn't much but it's 99 cents."
start reading TouchArcade and the list will stack up in no time

TouchArcade likes any garbage game, tho. Not the best barometer. Come to iOS thread and read my posts. I have exquisite taste in iOS.
Title: Re: Third-kun's Sales Thread of All-Consuming Sales Madness [Enter at your own risk]
Post by: Raban on February 16, 2014, 03:47:55 PM
you're so modest, demi :lol

Whether or not you agree with the reviewers, they still give you a good idea of what to expect out of any given iOS game and their website is approachably designed.
Title: Re: Third-kun's Sales Thread of Sales Madness
Post by: Tasty on February 16, 2014, 03:48:18 PM
Quote from: Third on February 16, 2014, 03:24:42 PM
I'm still waiting for my Ps4.

How the fuck do you fail at being a fanthing so bad. I mean fuck, buying the console you're stanning for is like the first step. You bring (further) shame on all fanboys.
Title: Re: Third-kun's Sales Thread of All-Consuming Sales Madness [Enter at your own risk]
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on February 16, 2014, 03:50:49 PM
PS4 is sold out here brehs, but i have played it.

Also I still have a 20ish games backlog.
Title: Re: Third-kun's Sales Thread of All-Consuming Sales Madness [Enter at your own risk]
Post by: Third on February 16, 2014, 03:54:16 PM
Microsoft Corporation’s Xbox One Looks Like a Total Failure (http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2014/02/15/microsoft-corporations-xbox-one-looks-like-a-total.aspx)

Not my words. Yahoo told me so. Thought I'd share  :heart
Title: Re: Third-kun's Sales Thread of All-Consuming Sales Madness [Enter at your own risk]
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on February 16, 2014, 04:07:03 PM
Where did you find that the ps3 is outselling the bone btw?
Title: Re: Third-kun's Sales Thread of All-Consuming Sales Madness [Enter at your own risk]
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on February 16, 2014, 04:17:41 PM
If someone bothers you, just put them on ignore.  It seems like The Bore rarely bans people and the place is better off for it.  If you're one of those "ignore list is for pussies" people, then shut the fuck up and deal with it.  Or annihilate them so hard that they'll refuse to come back to the thread out of shame.
Title: Re: Third-kun's Sales Thread of All-Consuming Sales Madness [Enter at your own risk]
Post by: archnemesis on February 16, 2014, 04:20:32 PM
The PS4 is finally starting to pop up in stores more regularly over here. It's often priced over MSRP and it will sell out almost immediately when it's not. I believe they're getting close to fulfilling the launch pre-order demand and it will be interesting to see how it will sell in Q2.
Title: Re: Third-kun's Sales Thread of All-Consuming Sales Madness [Enter at your own risk]
Post by: Beezy on February 16, 2014, 04:29:43 PM
Quote from: Third on February 16, 2014, 03:54:16 PM
Yahoo told me so.
:deadpos
Title: Re: Third-kun's Sales Thread of All-Consuming Sales Madness [Enter at your own risk]
Post by: Steve Youngblood on February 16, 2014, 04:31:04 PM
Quote from: Mary Tyler Whore on February 16, 2014, 04:17:41 PM
If someone bothers you, just put them on ignore.  It seems like The Bore rarely bans people and the place is better off for it.  If you're one of those "ignore list is for pussies" people, then shut the fuck up and deal with it.  Or annihilate them so hard that they'll refuse to come back to the thread out of shame.

Just for the record, I'm not posting from a "mods help; PS4 fanboys are making me angry!" place. I just genuinely don't understand the perspective, and it strikes me as embarrassing. Like, there's all this schadenfreude at Microsoft's failure where the underlying theme is "suck it Xbot fanboys," and I can't figure out who that is directed at.
Title: Re: Third-kun's Sales Thread of All-Consuming Sales Madness [Enter at your own risk]
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on February 16, 2014, 04:39:23 PM
Quote from: Steve Youngblood on February 16, 2014, 04:31:04 PM
Quote from: Mary Tyler Whore on February 16, 2014, 04:17:41 PM
If someone bothers you, just put them on ignore.  It seems like The Bore rarely bans people and the place is better off for it.  If you're one of those "ignore list is for pussies" people, then shut the fuck up and deal with it.  Or annihilate them so hard that they'll refuse to come back to the thread out of shame.

Just for the record, I'm not posting from a "mods help; PS4 fanboys are making me angry!" place. I just genuinely don't understand the perspective, and it strikes me as embarrassing. Like, there's all this schadenfreude at Microsoft's failure where the underlying theme is "suck it Xbot fanboys," and I can't figure out who that is directed at.

I wasn't directing it towards you, more towards the thread in general.

Third and Kosma are white noise shitposting but I just scroll past their comments.  Methodis is somewhat entertaining, maybe it is his misspellings that make his posts marginally more readable than Third or Kosma's.  I'm not sure who they are directing it towards except maybe they had a lot of pent up trolling since they couldn't do it with the PS3.  I don't know but it isn't worth engaging with them to figure out why.
Title: Re: Third-kun's Sales Thread of All-Consuming Sales Madness [Enter at your own risk]
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on February 16, 2014, 04:43:12 PM
Im just happy ms is failing cause they made a shit product and they wanted to have some super anti consumer shit.

I dont have pent up anger from the ps3 or ps2 age because I was an xbox owner then, I would have been one again if MS just delivered again.
Title: Re: Third-kun's Sales Thread of All-Consuming Sales Madness [Enter at your own risk]
Post by: Shaka Khan on February 16, 2014, 04:49:51 PM
Good jon, Europe.
Title: Re: Third-kun's Sales Thread of All-Consuming Sales Madness [Enter at your own risk]
Post by: Third on February 16, 2014, 05:01:59 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/jgMlPDb.png)

It's dONE. MS must probably pay EA in the billions to keep Titanfall franchise X1 exclusive.
Title: Re: Third-kun's Sales Thread of All-Consuming Sales Madness [Enter at your own risk]
Post by: Eel O'Brian on February 16, 2014, 05:02:11 PM
Quote from: Shaka Khan on February 15, 2014, 09:28:03 AM
:drudge :drudge :drudge
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=769583

MCD on suicide watch.

I shudder to think what kind of patchwork, halfassed UI Amazon would bring to an Xbox Kindle
Title: Re: Third-kun's Sales Thread of All-Consuming Sales Madness [Enter at your own risk]
Post by: Eel O'Brian on February 16, 2014, 05:06:12 PM
In other news, after a little work I got Fallout 3 running pretty well on my tablet, gonna try FO:NV and Oblivion next!

THE FUTURE IS ALREADY HERE
Title: Re: Third-kun's Sales Thread of All-Consuming Sales Madness [Enter at your own risk]
Post by: AdmiralViscen on February 16, 2014, 06:02:11 PM
Quote from: Mary Tyler Whore on February 16, 2014, 04:39:23 PM
Quote from: Steve Youngblood on February 16, 2014, 04:31:04 PM
Quote from: Mary Tyler Whore on February 16, 2014, 04:17:41 PM
If someone bothers you, just put them on ignore.  It seems like The Bore rarely bans people and the place is better off for it.  If you're one of those "ignore list is for pussies" people, then shut the fuck up and deal with it.  Or annihilate them so hard that they'll refuse to come back to the thread out of shame.

Just for the record, I'm not posting from a "mods help; PS4 fanboys are making me angry!" place. I just genuinely don't understand the perspective, and it strikes me as embarrassing. Like, there's all this schadenfreude at Microsoft's failure where the underlying theme is "suck it Xbot fanboys," and I can't figure out who that is directed at.

I wasn't directing it towards you, more towards the thread in general.

Third and Kosma are white noise shitposting but I just scroll past their comments.  Methodis is somewhat entertaining, maybe it is his misspellings that make his posts marginally more readable than Third or Kosma's.  I'm not sure who they are directing it towards except maybe they had a lot of pent up trolling since they couldn't do it with the PS3.  I don't know but it isn't worth engaging with them to figure out why.

I would say that the difference between "white noise shitposting" and "somewhat entertaining" explains the calls for bans
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: Human Snorenado on February 16, 2014, 06:07:59 PM
Quote from: demi on February 16, 2014, 03:45:22 PM
Quote from: Raban on February 16, 2014, 11:59:02 AM
Quote from: Mary Tyler Whore on February 16, 2014, 11:53:16 AM
I'd be curious to see the list of good iOS games.  I hate touchscreen gaming but if there are games that use the touchscreen format well, I doubt it would be much of an issue.  However I have a hard time find good, credible iOS recommendations other than "this game isn't much but it's 99 cents."
start reading TouchArcade and the list will stack up in no time

TouchArcade likes any garbage game, tho. Not the best barometer. Come to iOS thread and read my posts. I have exquisite taste in iOS.

Did an ADVENT RISING stan seriously just type that? Seriously? Breh, rethink this line of argument on your part.  :comeon
Title: Re: Third-kun's Sales Thread of All-Consuming Sales Madness [Enter at your own risk]
Post by: Human Snorenado on February 16, 2014, 06:17:09 PM
Don't remind me.

*gazes hatingly at his iPhone4*
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: demi on February 16, 2014, 06:21:07 PM
Quote from: Creepy Old Guy on February 16, 2014, 06:07:59 PM
Quote from: demi on February 16, 2014, 03:45:22 PM
Quote from: Raban on February 16, 2014, 11:59:02 AM
Quote from: Mary Tyler Whore on February 16, 2014, 11:53:16 AM
I'd be curious to see the list of good iOS games.  I hate touchscreen gaming but if there are games that use the touchscreen format well, I doubt it would be much of an issue.  However I have a hard time find good, credible iOS recommendations other than "this game isn't much but it's 99 cents."
start reading TouchArcade and the list will stack up in no time

TouchArcade likes any garbage game, tho. Not the best barometer. Come to iOS thread and read my posts. I have exquisite taste in iOS.

Did an ADVENT RISING stan seriously just type that? Seriously? Breh, rethink this line of argument on your part.  :comeon

Rethink nothing. You're noise. Come at me. I'll lick your asshole.
Title: Re: Oscar-sempai's Sales Thread of Sales Enlightenment for Sales Losers
Post by: thisismyusername on February 16, 2014, 06:27:26 PM
Quote from: demi on February 16, 2014, 06:21:07 PM
Quote from: Creepy Old Guy on February 16, 2014, 06:07:59 PM
Quote from: demi on February 16, 2014, 03:45:22 PM
Quote from: Raban on February 16, 2014, 11:59:02 AM
Quote from: Mary Tyler Whore on February 16, 2014, 11:53:16 AM
I'd be curious to see the list of good iOS games.  I hate touchscreen gaming but if there are games that use the touchscreen format well, I doubt it would be much of an issue.  However I have a hard time find good, credible iOS recommendations other than "this game isn't much but it's 99 cents."
start reading TouchArcade and the list will stack up in no time

TouchArcade likes any garbage game, tho. Not the best barometer. Come to iOS thread and read my posts. I have exquisite taste in iOS.

Did an ADVENT RISING stan seriously just type that? Seriously? Breh, rethink this line of argument on your part.  :comeon

Rethink nothing. You're noise. Come at me. I'll lick your asshole.

Well... that escalated quickly.
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Title: Re: Third-kun's Sales Thread of All-Consuming Sales Madness [Enter at your own risk]
Post by: DCharlieJP on February 16, 2014, 06:43:01 PM
Quote
Lots of people are doing work in the same spirit he does, and I feel they're doing better with it.  It's easy to exclude Minter's iOS stuff because it's frankly awful by comparison.  Some of his worst work IMO.

If you want real recommendations, I'll be happy to give them, on the condition you actually take them seriously and give them an honest try.  I'm not really willing to put in the effort otherwise.  I don't usually do recommends cuz it's generally a waste of time since people either don't try what I recommend or go into em with the mindset of proving me wrong.

I think you might have me down as some sort of iOS hater, but that's certainly not the case - i buy a good bulk of games - the Cave games i'd stick right up there and are an excellent example of how you can make your games work for iOS for instance. I am not interested in proving anyone wrong, hell - if you dig out the last GAFcasts , i had iOS stuff in there and had iOS games on my GOTY lists for last god knows how many years - hell, last year (or was it two years back?!) i had New Star Soccer as my GOTY (a game that has consequently been turned to garbage due to retweaking to push IAP, making it extremely difficult to continue without coughing up money - but that's another thread). Christ - even throw away stuff like Audio Ninja i've dumped so much time into i can literally play the challenge levels blindfolded :) ... though i don't think many people recommended A.Ninja, it's perfect if you are into 100%'ing stuff.

Annnnyways, Minter , bear in mind, has been striving to perfect Tempest for the last 15 years or so - TxK is godlike and whilst there maybe some Jonny-come-lately types jumping on it, i think most the people excited for it are genuinely so.

And yes, Minters games on iOS are a very mixed bag to put it mildly.
Title: Re: Third-kun's Sales Thread of All-Consuming Sales Madness [Enter at your own risk]
Post by: fizzel on February 16, 2014, 07:24:14 PM
Quote from: Mary Tyler Whore on February 16, 2014, 04:17:41 PM
Or annihilate them so hard that they'll refuse to come back to the thread out of shame.

You can't kill that which has no life.
Title: Re: Third-kun's Sales Thread of All-Consuming Sales Madness [Enter at your own risk]
Post by: Eel O'Brian on February 16, 2014, 08:02:20 PM
Update:  FO:NV runs better than FO3, with fewer tweaks. At 1024x768 low settings, I'm getting 30-50 fps, with dips into the 20s in spots. I ran a couple performance mods for both, which stripped away some game clutter like cutting down the # of burned books and rubble (you won't miss any of it). On to Oblivion!
Title: Re: Third-kun's Sales Thread of All-Consuming Sales Madness [Enter at your own risk]
Post by: Human Snorenado on February 16, 2014, 08:03:45 PM
Quote from: Eel O'Brian on February 16, 2014, 08:02:20 PM
Update:  FO:NV runs better than FO3, with fewer tweaks. At 1024x768 low settings, I'm getting 30-50 fps, with dips into the 20s in spots. I ran a couple performance mods for both, which stripped away some game clutter like cutting down the # of burned books and rubble (you won't miss any of it). On to Oblivion!

Is this on the Venue? Man I wish I'd taken advantage of that refurb offer. *sad trombone noise*
Title: Re: Third-kun's Sales Thread of All-Consuming Sales Madness [Enter at your own risk]
Post by: Eel O'Brian on February 16, 2014, 08:08:33 PM
No, I sold that to a friend and paid the difference to get an Asus Transformer t100.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/7428/asus-transformer-book-t100-review

Same guts, though, just a bigger screen.  I loved the form factor of the V8P, but the tiny text was putting a big strain on my eyes (I already have to wear reading glasses nowadays). I guess anything with a screen below 10" is sort of out of my consideration from now on :(
Title: Re: Third-kun's Sales Thread of All-Consuming Sales Madness [Enter at your own risk]
Post by: Eel O'Brian on February 16, 2014, 08:10:13 PM
anyway, how about those console sales, huh
Title: Re: Third-kun's Sales Thread of All-Consuming Sales Madness [Enter at your own risk]
Post by: Human Snorenado on February 16, 2014, 08:13:14 PM
I'm used to wearing glasses (have been since about 2nd grade) so that's not an issue for me. I love the form factor of the smaller tablets... my N7 is my favorite thing ever. I'm sure I'll end up getting something like a Venue later this year after everything settles down.
Title: Re: Third-kun's Sales Thread of All-Consuming Sales Madness [Enter at your own risk]
Post by: Eel O'Brian on February 16, 2014, 09:07:35 PM
Oblivion works great, no outside tweaking needed, just play around with the settings and resolution until you're comfortable with it.
Title: Re: Third-kun's Sales Thread of All-Consuming Sales Madness [Enter at your own risk]
Post by: Huff on February 16, 2014, 09:48:45 PM
what kind of a controller are you using?
Title: Re: Third-kun's Sales Thread of All-Consuming Sales Madness [Enter at your own risk]
Post by: Eel O'Brian on February 16, 2014, 09:58:37 PM
Mouse and the keyboard dock. 360 controller works great, too.
Title: Re: Third-kun's Sales Thread of All-Consuming Sales Madness [Enter at your own risk]
Post by: Stoney Mason on February 16, 2014, 10:01:51 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on February 16, 2014, 07:02:56 PM
*If* you like that style of developer, you should be fucking *thrilled* with mobile gaming, because it's jam-packed full of them. 

I actually agree with this. The people who rave about indie stuff and are overly snobby about moible/tablet games are annoying.
Title: Re: Third-kun's Sales Thread of All-Consuming Sales Madness [Enter at your own risk]
Post by: Third on February 17, 2014, 07:53:21 AM
So, the MGSV resolution is in...

X1 720p
Ps4 1080p

I wonder how this will affect sales. Tomb Raider DE sales ratio was 2:1 in favor of Ps4. Hmmm....
Title: Re: Third-kun's Sales Thread of All-Consuming Sales Madness [Enter at your own risk]
Post by: Joe Molotov on February 17, 2014, 02:05:22 PM
Quote from: Third on February 17, 2014, 07:53:21 AM
So, the MGSV resolution is in...

X1 720p
Ps4 1080p

I wonder how this will affect sales. Tomb Raider DE sales ratio was 2:1 in favor of Ps4. Hmmm....

I bet people will buy it on which ever console they own/like the best.
Title: Re: Third-kun's Sales Thread of All-Consuming Sales Madness [Enter at your own risk]
Post by: MCD on February 17, 2014, 02:11:16 PM
I will just Youtube the PS4 version on my X1.
Title: Re: Third-kun's Sales Thread of All-Consuming Sales Madness [Enter at your own risk]
Post by: Shaka Khan on February 17, 2014, 02:12:11 PM
Third annihilated :dead
Title: Re: Third-kun's Sales Thread of All-Consuming Sales Madness [Enter at your own risk]
Post by: Tasty on February 17, 2014, 02:15:10 PM
Quote from: MCD on February 17, 2014, 02:11:16 PM
I will just Youtube the PS4 version on my X1.

Google wins again. :jawalrus
Title: Re: Third-kun's Sales Thread of All-Consuming Sales Madness [Enter at your own risk]
Post by: Third on February 17, 2014, 05:18:42 PM
Now that it's basically confirmed that the PS4 version of MGS will outsell the X1 version by at least 3:1 ratio, we have another resolution debacle on our hands...

Thief is also rumored to be sub 1080p on the X1. This will definitely cost MS a lot of sales.

Stay tuned for more resolution-gate reports

(http://i.minus.com/iyvM96Xlp0VaW.gif)
Title: Re: Third-kun's Sales Thread of All-Consuming Sales Madness [Enter at your own risk]
Post by: Himu on February 17, 2014, 05:27:17 PM
Are you Third or are you Third's cousin? It is that far away from possibility given that Third gave his cousin his gaf account. That post reeks of modern gaf Third aka Beysus, especially the popgaf-esque gif.

I noticed that the gif is from minus as well. Is that from Beysus' minus account?
Title: Re: Third-kun's Sales Thread of All-Consuming Sales Madness [Enter at your own risk]
Post by: Third on February 17, 2014, 05:44:39 PM
God I hate that account. He totally ruined it. I sometimes look at his post history and think goddam. I sometimes use the account on gaming. But other than that, nope. It's his.
I rarely post on GAF anyway. Maybe two or three times a month.  Usually in threads where Sony is doing well   :-*

Found that gif on the net. I have my own minus btw  :-*
Title: Re: Third-kun's Sales Thread of All-Consuming Sales Madness [Enter at your own risk]
Post by: Rahxephon91 on February 17, 2014, 05:51:25 PM
MGSV looks pretty good on PS3.
Title: Re: Third-kun's Sales Thread of All-Consuming Sales Madness [Enter at your own risk]
Post by: Shaka Khan on February 17, 2014, 06:11:27 PM
There is no "Third's cousin" brehs. :rofl
Title: Re: Third-kun's Sales Thread of All-Consuming Sales Madness [Enter at your own risk]
Post by: Takao on February 17, 2014, 06:26:26 PM
Quote from: Third on February 17, 2014, 07:53:21 AM
So, the MGSV resolution is in...

X1 720p
Ps4 1080p

I wonder how this will affect sales. Tomb Raider DE sales ratio was 2:1 in favor of Ps4. Hmmm....

Even if there was performance parity between the two versions, MGS always would've sold better on PS4.
Title: Re: Third-kun's Sales Thread of All-Consuming Sales Madness [Enter at your own risk]
Post by: Smooth Groove on February 17, 2014, 06:37:02 PM
Quote from: Third on February 17, 2014, 07:53:21 AM
So, the MGSV resolution is in...

X1 720p
Ps4 1080p

I wonder how this will affect sales. Tomb Raider DE sales ratio was 2:1 in favor of Ps4. Hmmm....

So graphics disparity is why the PC version sold 10x better than the PS4? 

Title: Re: Third-kun's Sales Thread of All-Consuming Sales Madness [Enter at your own risk]
Post by: Himu on February 17, 2014, 06:40:28 PM
Quote from: Shaka Khan on February 17, 2014, 06:11:27 PM
There is no "Third's cousin" brehs. :rofl

I saw pics and his username on gaf is totally different posting style now. It exists!
Title: Re: Third-kun's Sales Thread of All-Consuming Sales Madness [Enter at your own risk]
Post by: Shaka Khan on February 17, 2014, 06:46:45 PM
They call that process "coming out" sis.
Title: Re: Third-kun's Sales Thread of All-Consuming Sales Madness [Enter at your own risk]
Post by: Third on February 17, 2014, 07:32:18 PM
Quote from: Smooth Groove on February 17, 2014, 06:37:02 PM
Quote from: Third on February 17, 2014, 07:53:21 AM
So, the MGSV resolution is in...

X1 720p
Ps4 1080p

I wonder how this will affect sales. Tomb Raider DE sales ratio was 2:1 in favor of Ps4. Hmmm....

So graphics disparity is why the PC version sold 10x better than the PS4?

Would be an argument if PC gaming were relevant. But since that's not the case, yeah, people will buy the console version with the better graphics. Happened last gen as well. PC version will always look better. But who the hell cares for that? PC gamers only buy $2 games during a steam sale anyway.
Title: Re: Third-kun's Sales Thread of All-Consuming Sales Madness [Enter at your own risk]
Post by: Trent Dole on February 17, 2014, 07:33:25 PM
Third's avatar is an actual photo of Third isn't it
Title: Re: Third-kun's Sales Thread of All-Consuming Sales Madness [Enter at your own risk]
Post by: Himu on February 17, 2014, 07:38:42 PM
No, there's a reason the Post Your Pics thread is labeled Post Your Naked Pics Third.

That's also why I refuse to believe Third is gay because THERE'S A CHANCE DAMMIT
Title: Re: Third-kun's Sales Thread of All-Consuming Sales Madness [Enter at your own risk]
Post by: Eel O'Brian on February 17, 2014, 11:02:54 PM
PC version sells better than both next-gen console versions combined = PC gaming not relevant

It's a Thirdzarro world, we're all just living in it
Title: Re: Third-kun's Sales Thread of All-Consuming Sales Madness [Enter at your own risk]
Post by: Purple Filth on February 17, 2014, 11:53:32 PM
Well this thread got weird  :lol
Title: Re: Third-kun's Sales Thread of All-Consuming Sales Madness [Enter at your own risk]
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on February 18, 2014, 02:16:24 AM
Maybe PC version sold better because PC gamers where starved for something like Uncharted, a series which is exclusive to the Playstation family.
Title: Re: Third-kun's Sales Thread of All-Consuming Sales Madness [Enter at your own risk]
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on February 18, 2014, 02:42:47 AM
PS4 is on 5.3 million units sold through worldwide as of Feb 8th.

Wonder if it can reach 10 million while still being sold out.

PS4 is currently outselling the Wii.

Wii
4 months - March 31st, 2007 - 5.84 million
PS4
3 months: February 8th, 2014: 5.3 million
Title: Re: Third-kun's Sales Thread of All-Consuming Sales Madness [Enter at your own risk]
Post by: Third on February 18, 2014, 11:11:37 AM
Yeah, Ps4 is doing crazy numbers

Quote
PS1:
4 months (one territory) - March 31st, 1995 - 0.85 million
10 months - September 30th, 1995 - 1.77 million
16 months - March 31st, 1996 - 4.26 million
22 months - September 30th, 1996 - 8.07 million
28 months - March 31st, 1997 - 13.50 million


PS2:
1 month (one territory) - March 31st, 2000 - 1.41 million
7 months (one territory) - September 30th, 2000 - 3.52 million
13 months - March 31st, 2001 - 10.61 million
19 months - September 30th, 2001 - 19.58 million
22 months - December 30th, 2001 - 24.99 million


PS3:
1 month - December 31st, 2006 - 1.7 million
4 months - March 31st, 2007 - 3.5 million
7 months - June 30th, 2007 - 4.2 million
10 months - September 30th, 2007 - 5.5 million
13 months - December 31st, 2007 - 10.4 million


PS4:
1 day - November 16th, 2013 - 1 million
2 weeks - December 1st, 2013 - 2.1 million
1 month - December 28th, 2013 - 4.2 million
3 months - February 8th, 2014 - 5.3 million

(http://i.imgur.com/WLo7oZV.png)


It's tracking ahead of the other PS consoles. I wonder how long this momentum will last. They're in a great position with PS4 right now.
Title: Re: Third-kun's Sales Thread of All-Consuming Sales Madness [Enter at your own risk]
Post by: Mr. Gundam on February 18, 2014, 01:39:04 PM
Just think how well the PS4 would do if it actually had some games.
Title: Re: Third-kun's Sales Thread of All-Consuming Sales Madness [Enter at your own risk]
Post by: Shaka Khan on February 18, 2014, 01:44:33 PM
What our resident reporters Third and Lager failed to snatch from GAF:

Out of 2600 surveyed developers...

(http://www.gamasutra.com/db_area/images/blog/207128/gdcplatformnext.jpg)

:dead
Title: Re: Third-kun's Sales Thread of All-Consuming Sales Madness [Enter at your own risk]
Post by: Eel O'Brian on February 18, 2014, 01:46:49 PM
A 2.71% lead this early in the generation? Wrap it up, Xboners.
Title: Re: Third-kun's Sales Thread of All-Consuming Sales Madness [Enter at your own risk]
Post by: Mupepe on February 18, 2014, 01:50:14 PM
Quote from: Eel O'Brian on February 18, 2014, 01:46:49 PM
A 2.71% lead this early in the generation? Wrap it up, Xboners.
I don't understand this word.  It's said like it's a bad thing.  But Third and Lager are hard as a rock in this thread.  Fucking double standards
Title: Re: Third-kun's Sales Thread of All-Consuming Sales Madness [Enter at your own risk]
Post by: Eel O'Brian on February 18, 2014, 01:52:52 PM
I'm bias
Title: Re: Third-kun's Sales Thread of All-Consuming Sales Madness [Enter at your own risk]
Post by: Joe Molotov on February 18, 2014, 02:36:29 PM
:gaben
Title: Re: Third-kun's Sales Thread of All-Consuming Sales Madness [Enter at your own risk]
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on February 18, 2014, 02:39:01 PM
Those games where already in production, by next march ps4 will be up 2:1/3:1 we in sales.

Games going into production then will widen this gap

Expect more timed exclusives too.
Title: Re: Third-kun's Sales Thread of All-Consuming Sales Madness [Enter at your own risk]
Post by: Great Rumbler on February 18, 2014, 03:06:24 PM
Quote from: Shaka Khan on February 18, 2014, 01:44:33 PM
What our resident reporters Third and Lager failed to snatch from GAF:

Out of 2600 surveyed developers...

(http://www.gamasutra.com/db_area/images/blog/207128/gdcplatformnext.jpg)

:dead

Mobile/PC future 8)
Title: Re: Third-kun's Sales Thread of All-Consuming Sales Madness [Enter at your own risk]
Post by: Third on February 18, 2014, 03:37:53 PM
Quote from: Eel O'Brian on February 18, 2014, 01:46:49 PM
A 2.71% lead this early in the generation? Wrap it up, Xboners.

Ps4's lead is almost 52%

WW HW sales so far:

Ps4: 5.3mln
X1: ~3.5mln

Or are you going by that irrelevant list where PC gaming seems to matter?
Title: Re: Third-kun's Sales Thread of All-Consuming Sales Madness [Enter at your own risk]
Post by: Steve Youngblood on February 18, 2014, 03:47:23 PM
Quote from: Third on February 18, 2014, 11:11:37 AM
Yeah, Ps4 is doing crazy numbers

The numbers are truly insane. Based on my projections, the numbers will skyrocket at such a rate that they'll defy our understanding of the space time continuum. Granted, the dataset we're working with is limited (I'm sure some naysayers here will argue that). But clearly, this is where we are headed:

(http://i.imgur.com/NP1Zn1P.jpg)
Title: Re: Third-kun's Sales Thread of All-Consuming Sales Madness [Enter at your own risk]
Post by: Himu on February 18, 2014, 03:49:24 PM
should have drawn a penis
Title: Re: Third-kun's Sales Thread of All-Consuming Sales Madness [Enter at your own risk]
Post by: Eel O'Brian on February 18, 2014, 04:02:24 PM
ir·rel·e·vant  [ih-rel-uh-vuhnt]
adjective
1.  not relevant; not applicable or pertinent:  Third does not own a PS4, therefore his opinions on the topic are irrelevant.
Title: Re: Third-kun's Sales Thread of All-Consuming Sales Madness [Enter at your own risk]
Post by: Purple Filth on February 18, 2014, 04:48:11 PM
PC Gaming :smug
Title: Re: Third-kun's Sales Thread of All-Consuming Sales Madness [Enter at your own risk]
Post by: headwalk on February 18, 2014, 05:11:33 PM
(http://www.gamasutra.com/db_area/images/blog/207128/gdcplatformnext.jpg)

if there's one thing we can draw from this survey it's that it is OVAH for the xbone. PS 4 the players. feels great to have #basedsony in the driving seat of the industry again.
Title: Re: Third-kun's Sales Thread of All-Consuming Sales Madness [Enter at your own risk]
Post by: Himu on February 18, 2014, 06:10:46 PM
what's the source of that image
Title: Re: Third-kun's Sales Thread of All-Consuming Sales Madness [Enter at your own risk]
Post by: Shaka Khan on February 18, 2014, 06:15:07 PM
Gamasutra article.
Title: Re: Third-kun's Sales Thread of All-Consuming Sales Madness [Enter at your own risk]
Post by: Himu on February 18, 2014, 06:16:26 PM
thanks i'll go to gamasutra
Title: Re: Third-kun's Sales Thread of All-Consuming Sales Madness [Enter at your own risk]
Post by: Himu on February 18, 2014, 06:18:35 PM
Here is the article for those who want to read it

http://gamasutra.com/view/news/210280/GDC_State_of_the_Industry_PS4_leads_console_interest_selffunding_reigns.php
Title: Re: Third-kun's Sales Thread of All-Consuming Sales Madness [Enter at your own risk]
Post by: pilonv1 on February 18, 2014, 06:23:18 PM
All video game companies & retailers have done over the past 10 years is promote pre-orders to the point where everything is so ridiculously front loaded, so of course it sounds more imrpessive after a short period of time. But it also means you run out of sweaty fanboys sooner and then you have to rely on selling to a group of consumers who left the industry years ago and probably can't tell the difference between 480 and 1080p. And if they can they don't are because your 5 hour game costs $60.
Title: Re: Third-kun's Sales Thread of All-Consuming Sales Madness [Enter at your own risk]
Post by: Rufus on February 18, 2014, 06:27:11 PM
It's a shame Microsoft backpedalled on their policies. I would have loved to see what things would look like right now. The numberfights over resolutions and framerates are boring.
Title: Re: Third-kun's Sales Thread of All-Consuming Sales Madness [Enter at your own risk]
Post by: Shaka Khan on February 18, 2014, 06:34:56 PM
Can we revert the thread title back to honor Oscar-sensei?

We really don't want to subliminally inspire a sense of obligation into some people. :hitler
Title: Re: Third-kun's Sales Thread of All-Consuming Sales Madness [Enter at your own risk]
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on February 18, 2014, 06:39:30 PM
Quote from: Rufus on February 18, 2014, 06:27:11 PM
It's a shame Microsoft backpedalled on their policies. I would have loved to see what things would look like right now. The numberfights over resolutions and framerates are boring.

Then it would have been 10:1 instead of 2:1.
Title: Re: Third-kun's Sales Thread of All-Consuming Sales Madness [Enter at your own risk]
Post by: Himu on February 18, 2014, 06:41:25 PM
If it were 10:1 Sony fantards would be a lot more bearable. As it is, MS is still a threat to the Sony Empire (tm).
Title: Re: Third-kun's Sales Thread of All-Consuming Sales Madness [Enter at your own risk]
Post by: Shaka Khan on February 18, 2014, 06:46:35 PM
Quote from: Howard Alan Treesong on February 18, 2014, 06:39:30 PM
Quote from: Rufus on February 18, 2014, 06:27:11 PM
It's a shame Microsoft backpedalled on their policies. I would have loved to see what things would look like right now. The numberfights over resolutions and framerates are boring.

Then it would have been 10:1 instead of 2:1.

So it *would* have been a lot more interesting, albeit for the first few months. Then it'll be so what else is new?
Title: Re: Third-kun's Sales Thread of All-Consuming Sales Madness [Enter at your own risk]
Post by: Raban on February 18, 2014, 07:36:19 PM
Quote from: Shaka Khan on February 18, 2014, 06:34:56 PM
Can we revert the thread title back to honor Oscar-sensei?

We really don't want to subliminally inspire a sense of obligation into some people. :hitler
maybe this will lure him back and he can claim his thread again
http://youtu.be/rPktjDHO0Y0
Title: Re: Third-kun's Sales Thread of All-Consuming Sales Madness [Enter at your own risk]
Post by: chronovore on February 18, 2014, 07:47:57 PM
Quote from: Eel O'Brian on February 18, 2014, 04:02:24 PM
ir·rel·e·vant  [ih-rel-uh-vuhnt]
adjective
1.  not relevant; not applicable or pertinent:  Third does not own a PS4, therefore his opinions on the topic are irrelevant.

That's inherently unfair. That's like saying the guy in the stands with a vuvuzela is irrelevant to the soccer match he's watching.

He's not irrelevant, he's annoying everyone around him in the stands.
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Post by: Himu on February 18, 2014, 07:52:33 PM
Quote from: Raban on February 18, 2014, 07:36:19 PM
Quote from: Shaka Khan on February 18, 2014, 06:34:56 PM
Can we revert the thread title back to honor Oscar-sensei?

We really don't want to subliminally inspire a sense of obligation into some people. :hitler
maybe this will lure him back and he can claim his thread again
http://youtu.be/rPktjDHO0Y0

Oscar isn't big on Dreamcast, he's a Saturn fan.
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Post by: Takao on February 18, 2014, 07:55:24 PM
still worked tho
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Post by: Third on February 19, 2014, 07:57:09 AM
Quote from: Formerly Known As Himuro on February 18, 2014, 06:41:25 PM
If it were 10:1 Sony fantards would be a lot more bearable. As it is, MS is still a threat to the Sony Empire (tm).

Maybe in NA. The X1 is dead in the other regions.

MS could still take NA if they can get their shit together. Europe and Japan are a lost cause.
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Post by: magus on February 19, 2014, 11:45:36 AM
Quote from: Raban on February 18, 2014, 07:36:19 PM
Quote from: Shaka Khan on February 18, 2014, 06:34:56 PM
Can we revert the thread title back to honor Oscar-sensei?

We really don't want to subliminally inspire a sense of obligation into some people. :hitler
maybe this will lure him back and he can claim his thread again
http://youtu.be/rPktjDHO0Y0

iwata should have done a remake of this ad instead of taking a pay cut :hitler
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Post by: Mr. Gundam on February 19, 2014, 02:27:53 PM
Quote from: Third on February 19, 2014, 07:57:09 AM
Quote from: Formerly Known As Himuro on February 18, 2014, 06:41:25 PM
If it were 10:1 Sony fantards would be a lot more bearable. As it is, MS is still a threat to the Sony Empire (tm).

Maybe in NA. The X1 is dead in the other regions.

MS could still take NA if they can get their shit together. Europe and Japan are a lost cause.

Weren't there rumors of an April launch? If that's true, you'd think MS would want to start advertising that...
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Post by: archie4208 on February 19, 2014, 02:36:39 PM
In not-console-wars-land, Banished seems to be doing pretty good.  It's the top seller on Steam (beating out DayZ and Rust), has over 15,000 concurrent players and was made by one guy.

I wouldn't be surprised if it reaches 100k copies in a week or so.
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Post by: Third on February 19, 2014, 02:51:47 PM
Quote from: Mr. Gundam on February 19, 2014, 02:27:53 PM
Quote from: Third on February 19, 2014, 07:57:09 AM
Maybe in NA. The X1 is dead in the other regions.

MS could still take NA if they can get their shit together. Europe and Japan are a lost cause.

Weren't there rumors of an April launch? If that's true, you'd think MS would want to start advertising that...

Yeah, Japanese launch is rumored to be in April. But MS should't even bother.

The console is gigantic
Kinect is gigantic
External PSU is gigantic
Japanese people don't seems to like big clumsy things in their small homes.

The Xbox brand is non-existent. Both Xbox consoles flopped, why should the X1 succeed? X360 had impressive Japanese dev support. But yet it tanked.

There are no Japanese exclusives announced(yet) for the X1. Platinum is rumored to be making a X1 exclusive. Look at the Wii U sales if you want to see what kind of impact Platinum has on hardware sales. (hint: NONE)

X1 apps are useless in Japan, just how they're currently useless in Europe. WHo the hell cares about nfl outside of NA?

It's more expensive than a Ps4. This blow alone will shoot the X1 into total irrelevance there.

Why should MS bother in Japan again?
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Post by: Great Rumbler on February 19, 2014, 04:59:28 PM
Quote from: archie4208 on February 19, 2014, 02:36:39 PM
In not-console-wars-land, Banished seems to be doing pretty good.  It's the top seller on Steam (beating out DayZ and Rust), has over 15,000 concurrent players and was made by one guy.

I wouldn't be surprised if it reaches 100k copies in a week or so.

I'm really interested in trying this out, and if I didn't have several games already that I need to be playing I'd probably have bought this already.
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Post by: Trent Dole on February 19, 2014, 05:28:42 PM
MS kind of isn't bothering in Japan actually. That's why it's a tier two launch country. They threw a bunch of money and effort at the 360 in Japan and it was ultimately a rather futile endeavor. Sure some of their PR people are saying Japan is important of course but what the fuck do you expect them to say? They can't freely state 'Yeah Glorious Nippon is a lost cause they no likey baka gaijin console :usacry '
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Post by: Trent Dole on February 19, 2014, 07:42:50 PM
Thinking back their marketing was kind of bad/misguided... so sure effort wasn't quite there as much as it could have been. :P
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Post by: headwalk on February 19, 2014, 08:12:18 PM
Quote from: Great Rumbler on February 19, 2014, 04:59:28 PM
Quote from: archie4208 on February 19, 2014, 02:36:39 PM
In not-console-wars-land, Banished seems to be doing pretty good.  It's the top seller on Steam (beating out DayZ and Rust), has over 15,000 concurrent players and was made by one guy.

I wouldn't be surprised if it reaches 100k copies in a week or so.

I'm really interested in trying this out, and if I didn't have several games already that I need to be playing I'd probably have bought this already.

i'm just hoping it means another mainline anno game.
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Post by: archnemesis on February 20, 2014, 01:04:26 AM
I'd rather have another Settlers game from Bluebyte.

Banished is pretty fun.
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Post by: Rahxephon91 on February 20, 2014, 01:06:00 AM
I guess PS4's are all sold out in the Chicago land area. Checking store inventories because I was thinking of getting one tomorrow and nothing from the usual places.
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Post by: chronovore on February 21, 2014, 01:12:31 AM
Quote from: Mr. Gundam on February 19, 2014, 02:27:53 PM
Quote from: Third on February 19, 2014, 07:57:09 AM
Quote from: Formerly Known As Himuro on February 18, 2014, 06:41:25 PM
If it were 10:1 Sony fantards would be a lot more bearable. As it is, MS is still a threat to the Sony Empire (tm).

Maybe in NA. The X1 is dead in the other regions.

MS could still take NA if they can get their shit together. Europe and Japan are a lost cause.

Weren't there rumors of an April launch? If that's true, you'd think MS would want to start advertising that...

Why bother? PS4 is launching in two days, and I've only seen its TV ad run TWICE, and that was in the last week. So much for a media blitz by either console.

But what the others wrote about Xbone is true in Japan; it's a lost cause. 360 had J-dev exclusives, and a weird attempt to cultivate an elite brand around it through destination salons and such... weird. None of it amounted to anything more than venting cash into a vacuum.
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Post by: HyperZoneWasAwesome on February 21, 2014, 04:34:58 AM
annoyingly, the 360 did end up stealing away the predominant share of the 2D shooters that came out to retail release in Japan for last gen, almost all of them console exclusive on a region locked system.

shit.
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Post by: chronovore on February 21, 2014, 05:01:24 AM
Yeah, that's another joy of Japanese publishers: "Let's make sure to launch this so it's locked to Japanese 360s only, even if we have no plan to launch this outside of the Japanese territory." I have never been able to suss out why people will region-lock when they don't have to, if there's no legal reason not to. I mean, I get it that some western publishers could theoretically see the individual-importer audience already has their copy... but couldn't that also be considered an indicator of overall consumer interest?

I'll pair that with an annoying habit of some publishers, i.e. EA, who put their Asia-region games locked to actual Asia-region, whereas most publishers use "Asia Region" as a shorthand for non-region-locked. Those are always a disappointment upon returning home.
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Post by: DCharlieJP on February 21, 2014, 07:09:46 AM
MS could be poised to absorb Nintendo if reports are true....


.... however, this would be like swallowing fucking SHIT CANCER where you get infected with BANAL SHIT

Nintendo are living in the shade of the average tree where they constantly hand out mediocrity

I saw you with Pikmin 3 under your arm - standing in the middle of a loooooooooooong queue :/
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Post by: thisismyusername on February 21, 2014, 07:30:40 AM
Quote from: Takao on February 18, 2014, 07:55:24 PM
still worked tho

Only for one post, though.  :(
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Post by: Cerveza mas fina on February 21, 2014, 09:02:58 AM
Quote from: chronovore on February 21, 2014, 05:01:24 AM
Yeah, that's another joy of Japanese publishers: "Let's make sure to launch this so it's locked to Japanese 360s only, even if we have no plan to launch this outside of the Japanese territory." I have never been able to suss out why people will region-lock when they don't have to, if there's no legal reason not to. I mean, I get it that some western publishers could theoretically see the individual-importer audience already has their copy... but couldn't that also be considered an indicator of overall consumer interest?

I'll pair that with an annoying habit of some publishers, i.e. EA, who put their Asia-region games locked to actual Asia-region, whereas most publishers use "Asia Region" as a shorthand for non-region-locked. Those are always a disappointment upon returning home.

Hehe yeah without region lock those games could have sold a few thousand copies more, which for such a niche product is a lot.

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Post by: Third on February 21, 2014, 07:15:36 PM
Bandai Namco are reporting that Sony only shipped 350k PS4 units during the JAP launch

That would be pretty underwhelming
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Post by: Rahxephon91 on February 21, 2014, 07:40:47 PM
Got myself a PS4.
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Post by: chronovore on February 21, 2014, 09:08:57 PM
Quote from: Third on February 21, 2014, 07:15:36 PM
Bandai Namco are reporting that Sony only shipped 350k PS4 units during the JAP launch

That would be pretty underwhelming

Gotta induce those false-shortages.
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Post by: Steve Youngblood on February 21, 2014, 09:41:10 PM
Quote from: Rahxephon91 on February 21, 2014, 07:40:47 PM
Got myself a PS4.

How!? They're sold out everywhere because of #TheThirst!
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Post by: Mupepe on February 21, 2014, 10:43:22 PM
I got a ps4 off a friend today. Got the system, an extra controller, bf4, ghosts, AC and FIFA. Got it cheap because he was bored of it. "No games" is what he said. What up ps4 brethren!
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Post by: larrydavid on February 22, 2014, 01:44:18 AM
I miss when this thread was Oscar hint exclusives. Ever since that one person blabbed in an NPD thread he's (justifiably) clammed up but it sucks.
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Post by: Shaka Khan on February 22, 2014, 01:56:16 AM
Well idiots kept on feeding that autistic schlub, gave him a name, and he kept coming back like a street cat.
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Post by: Bebpo on February 22, 2014, 02:00:25 AM
Quote from: chronovore on February 21, 2014, 09:08:57 PM
Quote from: Third on February 21, 2014, 07:15:36 PM
Bandai Namco are reporting that Sony only shipped 350k PS4 units during the JAP launch

That would be pretty underwhelming

Gotta induce those false-shortages.

No shortages in sight in Japan today it seems.  < 80k launch incoming... yikes

I mean, not reaaaaally unexpected when there's no software for the audience yet.  Will be a slowwwww riser in Japan as games trickle out over the next couple of years.
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Post by: tiesto on February 22, 2014, 02:56:40 AM
Welp, so much for PS4 being the savior of Japanese console games like others have said. Not that I thought it would do that great over there anyways...
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Post by: Bebpo on February 22, 2014, 04:01:11 AM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on February 22, 2014, 03:06:48 AM

Quote from: Bebpo on February 22, 2014, 02:00:25 AM
Quote from: chronovore on February 21, 2014, 09:08:57 PM
Quote from: Third on February 21, 2014, 07:15:36 PM
Bandai Namco are reporting that Sony only shipped 350k PS4 units during the JAP launch

That would be pretty underwhelming

Gotta induce those false-shortages.

No shortages in sight in Japan today it seems.  < 80k launch incoming... yikes

I mean, not reaaaaally unexpected when there's no software for the audience yet.  Will be a slowwwww riser in Japan as games trickle out over the next couple of years.

nobody cares about home consoles here anymore, man.

I know you're there and I'm in the US, but I just don't see it.  3rd party games that aren't FF/DQ are still selling in the 100-500k range on PS3.  Yeah that's worse than the 100k-800k range of the PS2 for non-FF/DQ games, but it's not like DEAD drops.  Probably about half the market size as the heyday of the PS2 era.  But it's not like the market has moved to the 3DS or Vita or PSP.  They have a bigger market share than before but the games are still selling in the 50k-500k range that PS3 games do.  It looks from software sales like the handhelds stole a lot of marketshare from the consoles and now it's about 50/50 when it used to be 80/20 console/handheld spread.  Still seems a long way from consoles are dead.

And then if consoles do die out in Japan because of handhelds and then 3-5 years later handhelds die out in Japan because of mobile...do you really think that mobile can support the entire game industry of Japan?  The Tales games, the Gundam games, the Musou games, etc...?  I don't see it.  Right now Mobile is leeching the audience from handhelds because there's a ton of cross-over, but there's still a pretty big difference between console and handheld/mobile experiences.  I see the rift getting bigger and eventually Japan ending up with a console/mobile 50/50 split and dedicated handhelds being gone. 

PS3 did pretty shitty compared to the PS2 in Japan, but I still think PS3 ended up alright in game library out of Japan.  I think consoles are always going to have a place there.  Though maybe a console/handheld single system hybrid really is the future for non-mobile Japan.
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Post by: Third on February 22, 2014, 05:50:07 AM
Ps4 will do fine in Japan. It will be the only console there that will play the next Final Fantasy, Kingdom Hearts and Grand Theft Auto.
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Post by: Third on February 22, 2014, 07:20:59 AM
Sounds more like wishful thinking to me. Are you a bitter SEGAy fan by coincidence?
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Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on February 22, 2014, 08:03:57 AM
There's some strong denial at the GAF thread.

I remember reading about the PS2 Japanese launch.  Lines that extended for blocks.  JPN PS2s going for over $1000 in auctions.  Massive shortages that lasted for months because they were legitimately tapped out, not because of artificial shortages to keep up the hype.  People buying about 200,000 copies of Street Fighter EX3 because there was fuck all to play on it.
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Post by: Cerveza mas fina on February 22, 2014, 08:05:42 AM
Its not an artificial shortage if they cant make more you dope.

Stop trolling.
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Post by: Human Snorenado on February 22, 2014, 08:24:00 AM
I feel kind of bad for Bebpo.
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Post by: MCD on February 22, 2014, 09:32:21 AM
How can the Japanese be excited when majority of their favorite games are still targeting the PS3 like Persona 5?
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Post by: MCD on February 22, 2014, 09:46:00 AM
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=101831003&postcount=2462
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Post by: headwalk on February 22, 2014, 10:13:47 AM
Quote from: MCD on February 22, 2014, 09:46:00 AM
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=101831003&postcount=2462

i have zero interest in a dumb PS4 launch livestream so i didn't click on this thread and so i had precisely zero idea this was going on.

of course nobody wants to make a "ps4 is bombing in japan" thread. it must come as a huge shock given their killer marketing:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wb7BKTflIc0.
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Post by: Steve Youngblood on February 22, 2014, 02:39:42 PM
How can you call out Cerny? He made Knack! What more do you want, man!?
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Post by: Cerveza mas fina on February 22, 2014, 03:03:55 PM
Maybe if the minimum wage in Poland wasn't 399 euro then people could afford it  :-\

Still nice to see Sony making an effort as always and localizing so much stuff for the Polish market, its paying off as the economy is growing.
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Post by: MCD on February 22, 2014, 03:06:57 PM
Quote from: Steve Youngblood on February 22, 2014, 02:39:42 PM
How can you call out Cerny? He made Knack! What more do you want, man!?
Knack 2.
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Post by: Bebpo on February 22, 2014, 03:10:21 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on February 22, 2014, 07:04:02 AM
"Do you think mobiles can support the entire games industry of Japan?"  No, I don't.  I don't expect the games industry in Japan to walk, Mr. Bepbuu~.  I expect it to die.

That's a pretty negative outlook that assumes that Japan lacks the ability to adapt and keeps itself afloat.  Not that there aren't prior examples of what you're saying, especially with the anime industry in particular.


Hopefully they smarten up, figure out a new business model and the talented creative staff keep making games for an audience.  If not, well they had a good run and it'll take me another 30+ years to get through my backlog of jrpgs, srpgs, vns and other good Japanese games.
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Post by: Smooth Groove on February 22, 2014, 04:37:02 PM
Pretty sad situation in Japan

Guess Sony's best bet is that PS4 becomes the new Xbox in the US since that's the only region that still matters
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Post by: Third on February 22, 2014, 05:16:42 PM
VR glasses will save the Ps4 in Japan.

VR hentai games will top the charts for years. You can quote me on that
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Post by: Takao on February 22, 2014, 05:53:37 PM
Quote from: Trent Dole on February 19, 2014, 07:42:50 PM
Thinking back their marketing was kind of bad/misguided... so sure effort wasn't quite there as much as it could have been. :P

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LVzSL4LqbVY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=whE0Y0LeNWE

mr. x should be an unlockable character in killer instinct
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Post by: thisismyusername on February 22, 2014, 06:08:38 PM
Quote from: headwalk on February 22, 2014, 10:13:47 AM
Quote from: MCD on February 22, 2014, 09:46:00 AM
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=101831003&postcount=2462

i have zero interest in a dumb PS4 launch livestream so i didn't click on this thread and so i had precisely zero idea this was going on.

of course nobody wants to make a "ps4 is bombing in japan" thread. it must come as a huge shock given their killer marketing:


Ain't nobody got time for Killzone, tho.
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Post by: Himu on February 22, 2014, 06:16:03 PM
This thread is too depressing :( Oscar you're making me cry
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Post by: Steve Contra on February 22, 2014, 06:25:01 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on February 22, 2014, 06:24:13 PM
From the ashes, something will grow, himuchan.  Don't worry.
Shenmue 3 (Match 3 that is)
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Post by: Himu on February 22, 2014, 06:47:31 PM
Cannot wait for Suikoden VI in 2030 :hyper
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Post by: Damian79 on February 22, 2014, 09:02:23 PM
There is still hope with the controller adaptors for Ipads.
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Post by: archie4208 on February 22, 2014, 09:40:34 PM
c-can I talk about sales stuff other than consoles?

Garry's Mod and Rust have both grossed $30 million in revenue. (http://i.imgur.com/fikNpwd.png)

That means Rust has broke 1.5 million units sold as it hasn't went on sale yet.  Also, Rust has sold 500k units in less than 2 weeks. (http://venturebeat.com/2014/02/10/rust-sales-reach-1-million/)
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Post by: Himu on February 22, 2014, 09:44:13 PM
Pretty good.
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Post by: Trent Dole on February 22, 2014, 09:57:13 PM
Quote from: Takao on February 22, 2014, 05:53:37 PM
x-man
:poop :poop :poop

mr. x should be an unlockable character in killer instinct
I'd not seen X-y before. :lol
Quote from: archie4208 on February 22, 2014, 09:40:34 PM
c-can I talk about sales stuff other than consoles?

Garry's Mod and Rust have both grossed $30 million in revenue. (http://i.imgur.com/fikNpwd.png)

That means Rust has broke 1.5 million units sold as it hasn't went on sale yet.  Also, Rust has sold 500k units in less than 2 weeks. (http://venturebeat.com/2014/02/10/rust-sales-reach-1-million/)
Yah, if AAA dies there'll still be cool weird indie shit to fuck around with. 8)
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Post by: Great Rumbler on February 22, 2014, 10:53:25 PM
Quote from: archie4208 on February 22, 2014, 09:40:34 PM
c-can I talk about sales stuff other than consoles?

Garry's Mod and Rust have both grossed $30 million in revenue. (http://i.imgur.com/fikNpwd.png)

That means Rust has broke 1.5 million units sold as it hasn't went on sale yet.  Also, Rust has sold 500k units in less than 2 weeks. (http://venturebeat.com/2014/02/10/rust-sales-reach-1-million/)

Be a naked caveman, brehs.
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Post by: Rahxephon91 on February 23, 2014, 03:57:41 AM
I don't really expect much in the way of Japanese games when it comes to the PS4. Thats just the way things are. Japanese comes on the PS3 and 360 were lacking after the first few years.
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Post by: Third on February 23, 2014, 05:58:08 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/hFY5mmE.png)


Hmmm
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Post by: thisismyusername on February 23, 2014, 08:11:25 AM
Quote from: Third on February 23, 2014, 05:58:08 AM
http://i.imgur.com/hFY5mmE.png

Hmmm

Player fluncuations based on platforms around the world on different time-zones?

(http://i.imgur.com/qgVttex.png)
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Post by: Steve Youngblood on February 23, 2014, 08:21:55 AM
Quote from: Third on February 23, 2014, 05:58:08 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/hFY5mmE.png)


Hmmm

Based on this statistic that is super relevant to sales, it looks like the PS4 right now is demolishing the PC, demonstrating a .08737132814462 percent increase in the number of players.
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Post by: chronovore on February 23, 2014, 08:43:42 AM
Quote from: Third on February 22, 2014, 05:16:42 PM
VR glasses will save the Ps4 in Japan.

VR hentai games will top the charts for years. You can quote me on that

:rofl
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Post by: a slime appears on February 23, 2014, 09:45:41 AM
PS4 bombed in Japan? Are you guys being serious or just trollin?
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Post by: archnemesis on February 23, 2014, 09:54:54 AM
Quote from: a slime appears on February 23, 2014, 09:45:41 AM
PS4 bombed in Japan? Are you guys being serious or just trollin?
It didn't sell out everywhere immediately. We'll get the actual numbers in a few days.
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Post by: a slime appears on February 23, 2014, 10:07:48 AM
Quote from: archnemesis on February 23, 2014, 09:54:54 AM
Quote from: a slime appears on February 23, 2014, 09:45:41 AM
PS4 bombed in Japan? Are you guys being serious or just trollin?
It didn't sell out everywhere immediately. We'll get the actual numbers in a few days.

Wow, that's kinda surprising.

Then again mobile has it's death grip on that country so maybe expecting consumers to pay that much for a game system they can't take with them on a train is kind of ridiculous in this day and age.
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Post by: Purple Filth on February 23, 2014, 10:08:17 AM
Quote from: archnemesis on February 23, 2014, 09:54:54 AM
Quote from: a slime appears on February 23, 2014, 09:45:41 AM
PS4 bombed in Japan? Are you guys being serious or just trollin?
It didn't sell out everywhere immediately. We'll get the actual numbers in a few days.

Apparently sometime monday.

Should be interesting to see what the numbers where and what was actually shipped.
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Post by: archnemesis on February 23, 2014, 10:16:07 AM
I'm expecting it to sell well the first week and then it will drop for the next three or four weeks. Metal Gear will cause a bump and then it will drop again. It will not take off until there are a few popular exclusives titles for it. Yakuza, musou, Gran Turismo, Final Fantasy and all the other classics will sell fine on the system.
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Post by: Shaka Khan on February 23, 2014, 10:19:14 AM
With how dire the situation is in Japan, coupled with the price tag and reluctance to transition as shown by the number of cross gen games, I'd be really surprised if the PS4 stabilizes above 15k the first year.
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Post by: Cerveza mas fina on February 23, 2014, 10:57:47 AM
Ill laugh my ass off if it beats ps2/3 launch too
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Post by: Cerveza mas fina on February 23, 2014, 12:43:10 PM
They can beat the PS2 in spirit

Look the PS2 killed the Dreamcast, so the PS4 has to kill both the PS2s spirit and the Xbox brand which falsely pretended to be Sega.
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Post by: Rahxephon91 on February 23, 2014, 12:43:59 PM
Quote from: Lagerless on February 23, 2014, 12:43:10 PM
They can beat the PS2 in spirit
No one can beat the PS2, most of all in spirit.
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Post by: Cerveza mas fina on February 23, 2014, 12:47:39 PM
The PS3 killed the old Sony that killed Sega (more of a sepuku), so now it's Zombie Ronin Sony which is cool again fighting against Spirit Sony and Fake Gaijn Sega Xbox

it all makes sense

 :noah
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Post by: Himu on February 23, 2014, 01:55:47 PM
:what
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Post by: Tasty on February 23, 2014, 02:50:57 PM
:what
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Post by: Human Snorenado on February 23, 2014, 02:57:47 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oAKG-kbKeIo
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Post by: Cerveza mas fina on February 23, 2014, 03:08:24 PM
I went full distinguished mentally-challenged fellow and still got more pootang then you  :yeshrug

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Post by: Shaka Khan on February 23, 2014, 03:14:00 PM
Isn't that considered statutory rape?
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Post by: Human Snorenado on February 23, 2014, 03:16:58 PM
Quote from: Shaka Khan on February 23, 2014, 03:14:00 PM
Isn't that considered statutory rape?

Did someone say... RAPE???

(http://i.imgur.com/EwPYz6k.gif)
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Post by: Cerveza mas fina on February 23, 2014, 03:19:05 PM
 :yeshrug
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Post by: Himu on February 23, 2014, 05:29:00 PM
Quote from: Lagerless on February 23, 2014, 03:08:24 PM
I went full distinguished mentally-challenged fellow and still got more pootang then you  :yeshrug

Ahahaha
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Post by: chronovore on February 23, 2014, 05:50:57 PM
It was depressing yesterday, even as a non-fanboy for Sony, to realize the PS4 had been on sale as of Saturday, and it was basically not news anywhere. I've seen a total of two advertising spots for it, and I didn't see a single news segment on it. Japan's "news lite" programs feature product segments where reporters go on site at some company/studio and show off this amazing new thing they're working on -- it's usually some effort of the PR's company to help get word out about a new product.

It is just hard to believe that Sony is fumbling its own launch. There are probably people who would buy the PS4 if they knew it was available, but public awareness is at an astonishing low for this entry in the product line.
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Post by: chronovore on February 23, 2014, 05:52:50 PM
Quote from: Third on February 22, 2014, 05:50:07 AM
Ps4 will do fine in Japan. It will be the only console there that will play the next Final Fantasy, Kingdom Hearts and Grand Theft Auto.

Holy crap. I had no idea just how little Third actually knows, and now I feel bad for pointing and laughing at him.
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Post by: Cerveza mas fina on February 23, 2014, 06:01:02 PM
So realistically what can PS4 do in its lifetime in Japan, 5/7 million max?
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Post by: Bebpo on February 23, 2014, 07:10:10 PM
Way too early to even guess.  I think it'll do better than the PS3 in the long run in every region, so at least 10 million lifetime in Japan I guess.

Quote from: chronovore on February 23, 2014, 05:52:50 PM
Quote from: Third on February 22, 2014, 05:50:07 AM
Ps4 will do fine in Japan. It will be the only console there that will play the next Final Fantasy, Kingdom Hearts and Grand Theft Auto.

Holy crap. I had no idea just how little Third actually knows, and now I feel bad for pointing and laughing at him.

Wait, what's wrong with that statement?  PS4 will do ok, it'll be like most systems these days and bob along at low sales and then have big spikes at FF, KH, GTA, etc... until there's finally enough of those types of games that it stabilizes at an ok amount.  GTA does 700k+ right now, that's like 2nd tier major seller in Japan (1st tier being DQ/MH/FF/Pokemon/Animal Crossing/Other Nintendo 1st party hits; 2nd tier being Tales of/MGS/SRW/etc...)
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Post by: a slime appears on February 23, 2014, 07:46:55 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on February 23, 2014, 07:38:06 PM
There's not even the smallest chance ps4 will top ps3 here.  This wasn't a particularly unsuccessful region for that console.  Pretty much anyone interested in a home console bought a PS3 at some point this gen.  And there's nothing on PS4 that wasn't also on PS3, aside from KH, which ain't what it used to be in Japan.

Best case scenario: PS4 sells only a bit less than PS3.  They'll manage this if they can pull in just about every teen to replace departing adults.  The birth rate means this will be lower in a best-case scenario, and they'll really need to get everyone, which seems unlikely.

Worst case scenario: WiiU.

Likely scenario: what Lager said, about 5-7 million lifetime.

You really think so? That's a pretty pessimistic forecast. :'(
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Post by: chronovore on February 23, 2014, 07:50:26 PM
Quote from: Bebpo on February 23, 2014, 07:10:10 PM
Way too early to even guess.  I think it'll do better than the PS3 in the long run in every region, so at least 10 million lifetime in Japan I guess.

Quote from: chronovore on February 23, 2014, 05:52:50 PM
Quote from: Third on February 22, 2014, 05:50:07 AM
Ps4 will do fine in Japan. It will be the only console there that will play the next Final Fantasy, Kingdom Hearts and Grand Theft Auto.

Holy crap. I had no idea just how little Third actually knows, and now I feel bad for pointing and laughing at him.

Wait, what's wrong with that statement?  PS4 will do ok, it'll be like most systems these days and bob along at low sales and then have big spikes at FF, KH, GTA, etc... until there's finally enough of those types of games that it stabilizes at an ok amount.  GTA does 700k+ right now, that's like 2nd tier major seller in Japan (1st tier being DQ/MH/FF/Pokemon/Animal Crossing/Other Nintendo 1st party hits; 2nd tier being Tales of/MGS/SRW/etc...)

I don't know what "2nd tier" means. "KH, which ain't what it used to be in Japan," and I suspect neither is FF. 700K units of GTA in japan probably doesn't pay for its localization, PR, and advert budget. Nothing is going to save PS4 in Japan. I wish something would though, because this version of the hardware seems more fiscally responsible and the publishing environment more in tune with the current market. It's exciting; if only more of them would be sold...
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Post by: AdmiralViscen on February 23, 2014, 08:13:26 PM
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Post by: a slime appears on February 23, 2014, 08:24:18 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on February 23, 2014, 08:09:29 PM
I dunno, i feel like it's a bit optimistic.  Pessimistic was when i forecasted less than the gamecube for the wiiU.  5-7 million puts it squarely in the SEGA Saturn range, which I think is the best any traditionally-focused console can hope for in this day and age in Japan.  Shit's changed here.  We got smart dudes like Bebpo thinking the industry here still pivots around FF when it's not even yesterday's news anymore.  Sure, it'll sell well, I bet around 1.7-2 million, but it's not going to ignite a renewed interest in console gaming.  That shit sailed a long time ago, and barring a crazy phenomenon (Wii/DS style), it's never going to be that good again.

The question when you're trying to guess how a new system is going to sell is who is this going to appeal to?  Specifically, when we contrast it against the PS3, who is the PS4 going to appeal to that the PS3 didn't?  The Xbox 360 was a non-factor here, so that boost it's getting in America/UK from pushing out MS means nothing here.  The Wii audience isn't going to find anything on PS4.  The casuals are playing their smartphones happily, the kids are happy with their 3DSes and mobile devices, the Nintendo console die-hards certainly aren't about to move at this point, all 50k of them. 

PS4 will have Final Fantasy.  So did PS3.  PS4 will have KH.  PS3 didn't, but KH is probably selling to a very similar crowd to FF, so there isn't going to be a lot of hardware gain there.  PS4 will have GTA.  So did PS3.  PS4 will have RGG games.  So did PS3.  PS4 will probably have Tales games?  So did PS3.  What exactly is the PS4 doing that the PS3 didn't, with regards to Japan?  I can't think of anything positive for that crowd.  Like, charging for online play basically means nobody in Japan is going to be playing online, and that's just one thing.

Yeah, you're right. Japan is becoming more mobile centric day by day and when large publishers like Square are turning to online to make the bulk of their sales you know traditional Final Fantasy isn't that much of a landmark money maker anymore. I'm still holding out hope for better days. :'(

Still though only 5 - 7 million for the PS4's lifetime sales? I'm sure there's going to be another surprise hit like Monster Hunter around the corner. The Japanese indie scene is just starting to ramp up and there are a bunch of really smart guys out there going solo. Something is bound to click to spark some interest I would hope.
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Post by: a slime appears on February 23, 2014, 08:47:46 PM
Oh I'm very familiar with P&D, GungHo, GREE as well. I was speaking a strictly console only hit or rather hoping for one! :D

With BitSummit around the corner the majority of the indie scene is most definitely focused on going mobile. Actually I'm trying to convince a friend of mine, who just left Bandai-Namco to strike it out on his own, to attend it. Although I expect a vast majority to be mobile focused I'm curious to see if anyone is actively going to engage the small console development studio mentality the West has seemingly embraced. It can work, especially given how much indie funding Sony is pouring into PS4 at the moment, but the question of course is will anyone bother?
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Post by: Bebpo on February 23, 2014, 10:26:26 PM
Oscar, to answer your question at who will PS4 bring that PS3 didn't bring in?  I'd say some of the PSP/DS/3DS gamers who were content with their handhelds for core games instead of buying a PS3 because it was too expensive and didn't have enough games to play on it.  As handheld market moves to mobile, the upper tier of the handheld core games will probably move to consoles.  I don't think FF is going to save anything despite you're jab there, I don't think any one game will save the PS4, just like a single game didn't save the 3DS or PS3. 

It's all about letting a couple of years pass with big hit blips becoming more regular (starting at once a year, then every 6 months, then every 3 months, then every month) and eventually 3 years in when you have a steady stream of titles people want appearing on a monthly or quarterly basis, then the system has value to the Japanese consumer and the sales will stabilize. 

People who bought a PS3 will give up gaming and not bother with the PS4 this generation and new teenagers and kids will pick one up.  Yeah the low birthrate will make this be lopsided, but if Sony can pull some of the handheld marketshare back, they'll overall do better this gen.

Quote from: chronovore on February 23, 2014, 07:50:26 PM
Quote from: Bebpo on February 23, 2014, 07:10:10 PM
Way too early to even guess.  I think it'll do better than the PS3 in the long run in every region, so at least 10 million lifetime in Japan I guess.

Quote from: chronovore on February 23, 2014, 05:52:50 PM
Quote from: Third on February 22, 2014, 05:50:07 AM
Ps4 will do fine in Japan. It will be the only console there that will play the next Final Fantasy, Kingdom Hearts and Grand Theft Auto.

Holy crap. I had no idea just how little Third actually knows, and now I feel bad for pointing and laughing at him.

Wait, what's wrong with that statement?  PS4 will do ok, it'll be like most systems these days and bob along at low sales and then have big spikes at FF, KH, GTA, etc... until there's finally enough of those types of games that it stabilizes at an ok amount.  GTA does 700k+ right now, that's like 2nd tier major seller in Japan (1st tier being DQ/MH/FF/Pokemon/Animal Crossing/Other Nintendo 1st party hits; 2nd tier being Tales of/MGS/SRW/etc...)

I don't know what "2nd tier" means. "KH, which ain't what it used to be in Japan," and I suspect neither is FF. 700K units of GTA in japan probably doesn't pay for its localization, PR, and advert budget. Nothing is going to save PS4 in Japan. I wish something would though, because this version of the hardware seems more fiscally responsible and the publishing environment more in tune with the current market. It's exciting; if only more of them would be sold...

Oh come on.  GTAV's sold 10x more than most games that get localized in Japan.   At 700k+ it's one of the top20-30 selling games of the last 10 years across all platforms in the country of Japan.  The game is a huge success in Japan and I'm sure Take Two is very happy with the sales.  In an industry where breaking a 100k units is "selling decent" and 200k+ is "good sales", 700k+ is a sales hit, especially for a game that's already recouped it's development costs elsewhere and is just paying for localization and marketing in Japan.  Don't even try to say that GTA as a brand doesn't matter in Japan.  GTA matters as much as Tales of, Kingdom Hearts, Ryu Ga Gotoku, Metal Gear Solid, etc... they're titles that sell well and when you have enough of them on a console it becomes appealing to a Japanese gamer.
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Post by: chronovore on February 23, 2014, 10:41:41 PM
Nope.

GTA is released by Capcom as part of the deal for Rockstar to take over Red Dead Revolver. Ongoing sales of R* games in Japan are the contractual obligation albums of this medium.
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Post by: Bebpo on February 23, 2014, 10:48:14 PM
Heh, anyhow it just feels like every time a system launches in Japan everyone's memories are erased.  The PSP didn't do very sell for a year or two and then it had a revision + Crisis Core and it started doing well and stabilized and was more than fine.  PS3 sold horribly for the first couple of years and everyone said it was a disaster and was doomed in Japan and would never get any support.  Well, a few years later with a price drop and some new colors it started selling ok, and stabilized and ended up doing fine.  3DS was doing pretty bad for the first year or so, so bad that they had to price cut and do the ambassador thing, but that price cut + MH and other software got it going with good sales and stabilized and it did well.

Systems in Japan post-PS2 generation sell pretty shitty for a while!  Japanese people aren't buying on hopes and dreams and promises.  They wait until the price comes down and there's a library of games they want.  That's why these systems all start doing ok a couple years in.

Even Vita is just starting to do a little better now in Japan and who knows, maybe in 5 years it'll have done ok.  Wii U...well, Nintendo console's have always had problems.


I don't see any reason why the PS4 won't do ok in the end just like the PS3, PSP, 3DS, maybe even Vita did/are doing.  It won't shatter sales records, but a couple years in, it should stabilize and sell ok.  It won't have any console competition thanks to the Wii U's death over there.
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Post by: Bebpo on February 23, 2014, 10:57:02 PM
Oscar, I think games will come out faster than the PS3 because the tech jump from PS3->PS4 is incredibly small if you're not going to push anything graphic-wise (aka 99% of J-devs) and just do PS3-era visuals and render them at 1080p/60ps like Isshin.  Also western games will be coming faster and more frequent because the tech jump is a lot smaller as well and a lot of them will get localized.  Unlike the Wii U that has absolutely nothing for months between Nintendo 1st party releases, PS4 will have regular game schedules with a mix of western localizations and smaller Japanese titles.  At least it should a year from now.

That combined with the lower entry price, the worldwide success of the system giving it some sort of morale boost and international interest and hopefully the BIG Japanese games not taking 4-5 years to come out like the PS3 (MGSV will be PS4 only and should hit in 2015, maaaaaybe FFXV will be 2015 as well), I think the adoption rate will be a little better than PS3 and when they drop the price a year or two in I think it'll have a faster adoption rate than the PS3 post-price drop.

But in the end I agree with you that it's overall market cap is limited by its audience.  I'm not gonna fight you there, they'll need to do something to bring new people in.  But if it gets to its saturation point in the first 4 years instead of in 6 years, those healthier looking sales may spawn companies being motivated to produce more games for the system and thus have more software that appeals which could help expand the market.
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Post by: thisismyusername on February 24, 2014, 12:11:28 AM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on February 23, 2014, 08:09:29 PM
Like, charging for online play basically means nobody in Japan is going to be playing online, and that's just one thing.

Japan: The last true bastion of hope for console gaming, in a world where it doesn't want to console game anymore.  :'(

Quote from: Exodust SoulBurn on February 23, 2014, 11:41:48 PM
Wasn't the mobile market doing well in Japan and growing way before it did in the US? I'm thinking like back at the beginning of last gen, hell even before, SE and other japanese companies were announcing mobile games to big series much to the chagrin of traditional game fans. I remember the excuse was "no one wants to play games on cell phones" which I uttered myself, and I'm definitely eating crow on that one. It just seems like Japan might have been ahead of the curve on that one. And I'm not sure how much that parallels to the US, but it could be a sign of things to come. I know Europe used to have ads for mobile games when I used to watch their music video channels all the times, and that's dating back to the early 00's.

I still dislike iOS gaming myself, but the signs of a takeover were there for a long time. And I can't believe how much ignored, especially considering the big cell phone boom in the arab world around 2004-05.


Cellphones are gonna be niche in the west until proper control schemes for a majority of western-focused titles (read: FPS majorly) are tailored to fit that system. It's a mix of battery life, online play, and other things that are really holding mobile back for the "hardcore." Casuals will play things like Flappy Bird or Flappy Doge or whatever that game was, but the people that are still buying consoles are 50/50 on that fence. I'd estimate and probably be wrong that it's more 30/70 casual/"hardcore" split on that fence of what is holding the hardcore back.
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Post by: Cerveza mas fina on February 24, 2014, 01:54:48 AM
Thing is cellphones and tablets are what kids grow up with now, not Mario or Crash.

So they are fine with the controls and they are the future.

The furure of gaming for us is like seeing Eddy Murphy start in Disney pictures, Mario on a touchscreen you will play with your kids :(
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Post by: chronovore on February 24, 2014, 02:38:27 AM
Quote from: thisismyusername on February 24, 2014, 12:11:28 AM
Cellphones are gonna be niche in the west until proper control schemes for a majority of western-focused titles (read: FPS majorly) are tailored to fit that system. It's a mix of battery life, online play, and other things that are really holding mobile back for the "hardcore." Casuals will play things like Flappy Bird or Flappy Doge or whatever that game was, but the people that are still buying consoles are 50/50 on that fence. I'd estimate and probably be wrong that it's more 30/70 casual/"hardcore" split on that fence of what is holding the hardcore back.

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Post by: Bebpo on February 24, 2014, 05:14:35 AM
Quote from: Borys on February 24, 2014, 04:51:21 AM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on February 23, 2014, 10:46:38 PM
Lots of people are still under the impression that FF is important.  Some of them run game companies.  It's all very tragic.

:whew

So what exactly sells in Japan if it is not FF or KH or DQ anymore? Resident Evil does not, Metal Gear does not.

Western games: CoD doesn't, BF4 doesn't, Skyrim doesn't, GTA (excluding 5) does not.

Even fucking Mario doesn't move units.

The only game that comes to mind is Monster Hunter :/

Monster Hunter, Puzzles & Dragons, Pokemon, Animal Crossing.  Basically all-ages family/kids stuff on handhelds/mobile.
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Post by: AdmiralViscen on February 24, 2014, 08:18:43 AM
Quote from: Bebpo on February 23, 2014, 10:57:02 PM
Oscar, I think games will come out faster than the PS3 because the tech jump from PS3->PS4 is incredibly small if you're not going to push anything graphic-wise (aka 99% of J-devs) and just do PS3-era visuals and render them at 1080p/60ps like Isshin.  Also western games will be coming faster and more frequent because the tech jump is a lot smaller as well and a lot of them will get localized.  Unlike the Wii U that has absolutely nothing for months between Nintendo 1st party releases, PS4 will have regular game schedules with a mix of western localizations and smaller Japanese titles.  At least it should a year from now.

That combined with the lower entry price, the worldwide success of the system giving it some sort of morale boost and international interest and hopefully the BIG Japanese games not taking 4-5 years to come out like the PS3 (MGSV will be PS4 only and should hit in 2015, maaaaaybe FFXV will be 2015 as well), I think the adoption rate will be a little better than PS3 and when they drop the price a year or two in I think it'll have a faster adoption rate than the PS3 post-price drop.

But in the end I agree with you that it's overall market cap is limited by its audience.  I'm not gonna fight you there, they'll need to do something to bring new people in.  But if it gets to its saturation point in the first 4 years instead of in 6 years, those healthier looking sales may spawn companies being motivated to produce more games for the system and thus have more software that appeals which could help expand the market.

I dunno man, the death of the B-list game and the struggles of AAA don't inspire me with confidence re: volume of non-indie games
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Post by: thisismyusername on February 24, 2014, 08:43:38 AM
Quote from: chronovore on February 24, 2014, 02:38:27 AM
Quote from: thisismyusername on February 24, 2014, 12:11:28 AM
Cellphones are gonna be niche in the west until proper control schemes for a majority of western-focused titles (read: FPS majorly) are tailored to fit that system. It's a mix of battery life, online play, and other things that are really holding mobile back for the "hardcore." Casuals will play things like Flappy Bird or Flappy Doge or whatever that game was, but the people that are still buying consoles are 50/50 on that fence. I'd estimate and probably be wrong that it's more 30/70 casual/"hardcore" split on that fence of what is holding the hardcore back.

http://i.ytimg.com/vi/G2y8Sx4B2Sk/0.jpg

Am I wrong? How many people talk about FFT, GTA3-VC-SA ports on iPhone? Apple is coming out with a controller, good for them. But that's years late to the party on getting people on that.

Are people playing on cellphones? Sure, I don't discount that. But are people playing the experience that they can get on PC/Console? No, and that's an issue for some people. For others, they're fine with Candy Crush and Flappy Bird-level "crap."

When you can play Disgaea or FFT or GTA or Battlefield or whatever variant as a quick pick-up-and-go sleep-restore user experience? That's when mobile will be in the limelight in the west, IMO. That's when people will get hyped and mobile will move out of "niche." Until then it's basically doing the same thing as handhelds in "hype"-o-meter outside of exceptions of Candy Crush and Flappy Bird.
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Post by: Himu on February 24, 2014, 08:59:22 AM
Gotta love what SE has done to Final Fantasy.
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Post by: a slime appears on February 24, 2014, 09:12:36 AM
Why measure success in terms of games and franchises we know? We sound like a bunch of grumpy mainframe programmers complaining that Space Invaders is all flash and no depth as we play Colossal Cave / Rogue then pretend the arcade is just a fad. Candy Crush and its ilk are like [insert recognizable smash hit] for a new market.

What you guys like isn't what the public is buying and that public is exponentially larger than you. Square Enix, Nintendo, and all the other major companies worth their salt know this. Hence why you see a dramatic shift towards mobile, merging with other markets such as toys, and creating a new console focused exclusively on non-gaming experiences. Some market shifts will not work but at least it's better than pretending the traditional console market will be around forever.
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Post by: MCD on February 24, 2014, 09:16:07 AM
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=774239

Relevant for sales talk.
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Post by: MCD on February 24, 2014, 09:18:32 AM
Quote from: Formerly Known As Himuro on February 24, 2014, 08:59:22 AM
Gotta love what SE has done to Final Fantasy.
You should really play Lightning Returns, Himu.

While I hated it at first due to having time constantly chasing me out like an idiot in the game, I was surprised by some gameplay and even some story elements in the game that really nails the good old days of PS1 FF.

There is a scene in Yusnaan that really made me appreciate it more.
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Post by: chronovore on February 24, 2014, 09:41:14 AM
Quote from: thisismyusername on February 24, 2014, 08:43:38 AM
Quote from: chronovore on February 24, 2014, 02:38:27 AM
Quote from: thisismyusername on February 24, 2014, 12:11:28 AM
Cellphones are gonna be niche in the west until proper control schemes for a majority of western-focused titles (read: FPS majorly) are tailored to fit that system. It's a mix of battery life, online play, and other things that are really holding mobile back for the "hardcore." Casuals will play things like Flappy Bird or Flappy Doge or whatever that game was, but the people that are still buying consoles are 50/50 on that fence. I'd estimate and probably be wrong that it's more 30/70 casual/"hardcore" split on that fence of what is holding the hardcore back.

http://i.ytimg.com/vi/G2y8Sx4B2Sk/0.jpg

Am I wrong? How many people talk about FFT, GTA3-VC-SA ports on iPhone? Apple is coming out with a controller, good for them. But that's years late to the party on getting people on that.

Are people playing on cellphones? Sure, I don't discount that. But are people playing the experience that they can get on PC/Console? No, and that's an issue for some people. For others, they're fine with Candy Crush and Flappy Bird-level "crap."

When you can play Disgaea or FFT or GTA or Battlefield or whatever variant as a quick pick-up-and-go sleep-restore user experience? That's when mobile will be in the limelight in the west, IMO. That's when people will get hyped and mobile will move out of "niche." Until then it's basically doing the same thing as handhelds in "hype"-o-meter outside of exceptions of Candy Crush and Flappy Bird.

You are correct in observing that no one is getting a AAA gaming experience on mobile.

I believe you are misusing the term "niche," which implies a narrowly defined, smaller, subset of the total market. In actuality, the number of people engaged in gaming on their cellphone likely outstrips any given console.  Hell, it may outstrip all of them put together at this point.
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Post by: Himu on February 24, 2014, 09:54:03 AM
Quote from: MCD on February 24, 2014, 09:18:32 AM
Quote from: Formerly Known As Himuro on February 24, 2014, 08:59:22 AM
Gotta love what SE has done to Final Fantasy.
You should really play Lightning Returns, Himu.

While I hated it at first due to having time constantly chasing me out like an idiot in the game, I was surprised by some gameplay and even some story elements in the game that really nails the good old days of PS1 FF.

There is a scene in Yusnaan that really made me appreciate it more.

You don't have to sell me on it. I'm buying it. I'm just waiting for it to reach 40 dollars to make a statement. That should take two more weeks at the latest.
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Post by: Tasty on February 24, 2014, 10:09:30 AM
Quote from: Formerly Known As Himuro on February 24, 2014, 09:54:03 AM
Quote from: MCD on February 24, 2014, 09:18:32 AM
Quote from: Formerly Known As Himuro on February 24, 2014, 08:59:22 AM
Gotta love what SE has done to Final Fantasy.
You should really play Lightning Returns, Himu.

While I hated it at first due to having time constantly chasing me out like an idiot in the game, I was surprised by some gameplay and even some story elements in the game that really nails the good old days of PS1 FF.

There is a scene in Yusnaan that really made me appreciate it more.

You don't have to sell me on it. I'm buying it. I'm just waiting for it to reach 40 dollars to make a statement. That should take two more weeks at the latest.

Yeah, that'll teach em. ::)
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Post by: Himu on February 24, 2014, 11:09:18 AM
That game is not.going to do well. I have been sending a statement for five years. Haven't bought an FF rpg since FFXIII. LR demo is great so they deserve the money, but last generation of FF was shit, so I'm not buying full price. Sounds like a fair statement to me. 40 dollars is a good price point. Five years not supporting your products is a pretty good statement. Much better statement than having a cartoon profile picture on Facebook to combat child abuse. Now that's slacktivism. Video games are just toys. Who cares.
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Post by: Himu on February 24, 2014, 11:16:03 AM
Quote from: Tasty Meat on February 24, 2014, 10:09:30 AM
Quote from: Formerly Known As Himuro on February 24, 2014, 09:54:03 AM
Quote from: MCD on February 24, 2014, 09:18:32 AM
Quote from: Formerly Known As Himuro on February 24, 2014, 08:59:22 AM
Gotta love what SE has done to Final Fantasy.
You should really play Lightning Returns, Himu.

While I hated it at first due to having time constantly chasing me out like an idiot in the game, I was surprised by some gameplay and even some story elements in the game that really nails the good old days of PS1 FF.

There is a scene in Yusnaan that really made me appreciate it more.

You don't have to sell me on it. I'm buying it. I'm just waiting for it to reach 40 dollars to make a statement. That should take two more weeks at the latest.

Yeah, that'll teach em. ::)

I dont think you have gotten the memo.

FFXIIILR did less than FFX HD in Japan. I bet it'll do the same here.

Andrex.

They've already been taught, you dork.
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Post by: brob on February 24, 2014, 11:28:52 AM
unless u buckle the fuck up and go egg SE HQ I'm calling slacktivism
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Post by: Himu on February 24, 2014, 11:30:32 AM
Call it what you like.
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Post by: Tasty on February 24, 2014, 11:48:03 AM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on February 24, 2014, 10:09:56 AM
Like, weren't you bitching just yesterday about slacktivism?

Srsly yo.
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Post by: Himu on February 24, 2014, 11:49:54 AM
let's compare buying video games to political activism brehs
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Post by: brob on February 24, 2014, 01:29:23 PM
let's call waiting for a $20 price drop ''making a statement''



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Post by: tiesto on February 24, 2014, 06:38:58 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on February 24, 2014, 06:32:39 AM
Stuff that's fallen off badly in recent years: Gran Turismo, Wii _____, Mario RPGs, Mario Party, Kirby, DQ spin-offs, Brain Training, off-brand JRPGs, Winning Eleven, Dynasty Warriors, FF spin-offs with the FF brand on them.

And this is what's most depressing about the situation. Since non FF/DQ RPGs have been frequently responsible for my favorite games of all time.

Bebpo is remaining optimistic but I'm a pessimist by nature, when it comes to the game industry. PS4/Xbone/WiiU will have a few standout Japanese games but it will never be like the old days. I predict when all is said and done, PS4 will do 75% of PS3 there... it'll still get Tales games, it'll still get FF, RE, MGS, GT, Tales, and niche Idea Factory/Compile Heart kusoge. But it won't get a lot of those interesting experimental mid-range games that were the best part of last gen for me (i.e. Resonance of Fate, Vanquish, Lost Odyssey).

Oscar, I'm knowledgeable about the demographic decline in Japan, and how this is further helping to shrink the traditional market... but are there people in Japan who prefer playing on consoles as opposed to mobile/handheld (like many core gamers in the west)? And are casual/mobile gamers as fickle as their US counterparts? I hear that Puzzle and Dragons is primarily responsible for the huge boom in the Japanese mobile industry, but what are the chances that this (and all the clones) die down?
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Post by: Bebpo on February 24, 2014, 06:49:12 PM
Sorry for the nerdy nitpicking but Lost Odyssey isn't really a mid-range game.  I'd say Lost Odyssey, Blue Dragon, FFXIII, and MGS4 are probably the most expensive games ever made in Japan post-Shenmue (maybe the Gran Turismos and The Last Guardian if you count dead games).  LO and BD had 25 million budgets each iirc. 

Stuff like Vanquish, Binary Domain, Resonance of Fate (Tri-ace games in general) are definitely fading out unfortunately :(  They didn't really make the move to handhelds, like all the shitty handheld stuff Tri-ace is working on that turns out kind of shitty instead of getting a really good PS2-era Tri-ace game on 3DS/PSP or Vita.
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Post by: larrydavid on February 24, 2014, 09:18:24 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on February 24, 2014, 06:32:39 AM

Stuff that's fallen off badly in recent years: Gran Turismo, Wii _____, Mario RPGs, Mario Party, Kirby, DQ spin-offs, Brain Training, off-brand JRPGs, Winning Eleven, Dynasty Warriors, FF spin-offs with the FF brand on them.

Don't forget Layton and Inazuma (is that off-brand?) Poor Level-5, their future is dependent on effing Yokai Watch.

The future for mid-tier on PS4 does look pretty bleak, I can't think of what might make it other than maybe some Falcom stuff and shitty Nippon Ichi games. And I'm not sure if the Wii U is even going to get a single third party game. Like did that system even get a single third party exclusive that wasn't a port? The Wii had like fifty, Gamecube probably had a bunch, Wii U's got uh.... Taiko?
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Post by: Human Snorenado on February 24, 2014, 10:10:17 PM
There's for sure a lot of "well that isn't what *I* want to happen!" going on in this thread and among fans of console gaming in general. Just because the most likely path forward isn't one you like or can imagine doesn't matter.
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Post by: Great Rumbler on February 24, 2014, 10:17:55 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on February 24, 2014, 10:06:02 PM
Look at that, and realize how little your objections to smartphone gaming mean in the long run.  Look, and weep.

I guess I'll just keep playing games or something. :yeshrug
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Post by: Rahxephon91 on February 24, 2014, 10:23:34 PM
Yeah it sucks but I guess they'll be enough western games anyway to keep consoles going.
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Post by: DCharlieJP on February 24, 2014, 10:27:42 PM
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And I'm not sure if the Wii U is even going to get a single third party game. Like did that system even get a single third party exclusive that wasn't a port? The Wii had like fifty, Gamecube probably had a bunch, Wii U's got uh.... Taiko?

Whilst a few have "3DS versions" : Lego City Undercover, Taiko, TankTankTank, Monster Hunter 3U*, i assume Monster hunter 4U too?, Sonic Lost World, Rabbid Lands,


and of course Bayonetta 2 (yes, i know - but still it's platinum rather than Nintendo dev'ed)

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Post by: Joe Molotov on February 24, 2014, 10:29:34 PM
Wii U's got that Sanic to keep it going strong.
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Post by: Tasty on February 24, 2014, 10:30:09 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on February 24, 2014, 10:06:02 PM
(http://livedoor.blogimg.jp/jin115/imgs/a/d/ad6f0ecc.jpg)

Look at that, and realize how little your objections to smartphone gaming mean in the long run.  Look, and weep.

That kid's hat is boss as fuck. I bet he has better taste than 95% of the Bore.
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Post by: tiesto on February 24, 2014, 10:30:23 PM
What are Line games?
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Post by: Tasty on February 24, 2014, 10:38:37 PM
TBH though I don't get what Oscar's saying with that image.

The future is Nintendo? (lol)

Kids like SNES games? Kids don't like SNES games? (is touching the monitor with your thumb like the middle finger in Japan?)
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Post by: tiesto on February 24, 2014, 10:54:29 PM
That's just cuz they're not old enough to know better :P

Touch screen works fine for some genres, most genres it sucks for. How many people actually managed to play those GTA mobile ports without a bluetooth controller? How was the experience? If we can some day get high-quality haptic touch screen technology that would be cool, but I highly doubt that's coming any time soon (and for cheaply).
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Post by: Rahxephon91 on February 24, 2014, 11:01:05 PM
I'm sure even with the mobile death force, there will have to be some area for non-mobile gaming. There has to be right? If it's not consoles then I guess PC? that would suck, but I already use STEAM a lot so whatever. Instead of buying consoles, I'll buy PCs.

What if this streaming stuff gets good? Can't non-mobile gaming live on like that? Streaming "console" games to your tv conveniently and easily?

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Post by: Tasty on February 24, 2014, 11:25:09 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on February 24, 2014, 10:44:38 PM
Touching a screen to play a game is completely natural for today's kids, is the point.  They have no expectations of needing buttons to play and thus give zero fucks if they don't have them.

Ooooh.

Well, it's not a bad argument, but kids are pretty dumb anyways.
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Post by: Human Snorenado on February 24, 2014, 11:31:08 PM
Quote from: Tasty Meat on February 24, 2014, 11:25:09 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on February 24, 2014, 10:44:38 PM
Touching a screen to play a game is completely natural for today's kids, is the point.  They have no expectations of needing buttons to play and thus give zero fucks if they don't have them.

Ooooh.

Well, it's not a bad argument, but kids are pretty dumb anyways.

...

...

...

:gurl
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Post by: Tasty on February 24, 2014, 11:51:42 PM
...shit :lol
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Post by: Steve Youngblood on February 24, 2014, 11:59:58 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on February 24, 2014, 10:44:38 PM
Touching a screen to play a game is completely natural for today's kids, is the point.  They have no expectations of needing buttons to play and thus give zero fucks if they don't have them.

Heh, yeah. My kid is two and I already have to deal with that a lot. I remember one time I was sitting at the computer checking out the Steam sale, and my son climbed on to my lap and starting trying to push the train icon on the computer (Train Simulator 2013) because he likes trains. And who can blame him? So many of the devices in the house right now have touch screen interfaces. Why wouldn't the monitor also be one?
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Post by: DCharlieJP on February 25, 2014, 12:23:57 AM
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hough games that are multiplat now might have to be scaled back in budget to account for the smaller audience.

honest question - how do games companies factor in the complete random nature of mobile and the absolute off the chart failure rates?

I appreciate "dev costs are less" but the trend is going to push up where mobile is and what users expect.... or possibly not? In which case - the fart-button equivalent of most games is going to be the pre-dominant gaming norm
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Post by: Purple Filth on February 25, 2014, 12:25:06 AM
Quote from: Tasty Meat on February 24, 2014, 10:38:37 PM
TBH though I don't get what Oscar's saying with that image.

The future is Nintendo? (lol)

Kids like SNES games? Kids don't like SNES games? (is touching the monitor with your thumb like the middle finger in Japan?)

:comeon
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Post by: Purple Filth on February 25, 2014, 12:32:59 AM
Famitsu number is now up apparently 

PS4: 322,083 (2 days)

 :larry
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Post by: Purple Filth on February 25, 2014, 12:39:06 AM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on February 25, 2014, 12:34:24 AM
Quote from: Purple Filth on February 25, 2014, 12:32:59 AM
Famitsu number is now up apparently 

PS4: 322,083 (2 days)

 :larry

That's a decent enough number.  Launch weeks aren't terribly useful for predicting much, though.  Could go either way from here.

Got beat by the PS2 and Wii in their respective console launch period of 2 days but that sounds like good company.

And yea we'll have to see what happens as the months roll in
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Post by: Takao on February 25, 2014, 12:41:10 AM
That's a solid debut, the problem is that this is the PS4's confirmed release list in Japan after launch:

03/19
    Natural Doctrine
    Nobunaga no Yabou Online: Tenka Mugen no Shou

03/20
    Metal Gear Solid V: Ground Zeroes

04/14
    Final Fantasy XIV Online: Shinsei Eorzea

05/01
    Child of Light

I'm sure a few more western games will get localized, but yeah ...
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Post by: Rahxephon91 on February 25, 2014, 12:52:31 AM
What you don't think Natural Doctrine and MGS5 demo aren't going to light up the charts...
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Post by: DCharlieJP on February 25, 2014, 01:00:49 AM
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It's not really an honest question, but I'll answer anyway.  First of all, the mobile market isn't any more random than the traditional market.  The problem comes when companies roll in expecting the market to behave in exactly the same way as the console market. 

so - it's not any more random, just behaviour is different. So ... what is the X factor? It just seems that that is nigh on impossible to nail down. Outside of a few series, everything else looks like a total crap shoot.

Or am i missing some pattern?
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Post by: DCharlieJP on February 25, 2014, 02:06:05 AM
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.  For what it's worth, the folks at EA's mobile division, King.com, Gameloft, Supercell, and others seem to have a pretty good bead on the market.  Again, is there a specific high profile disaster you can point to?

Dungeon Keeper?

I think the point is more that there are no slam dunks - game quality/budgets etc don't necessarily translate into success.

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Post by: DCharlieJP on February 25, 2014, 04:37:20 AM
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(Btw, best answer was Zynga.  Silver medal awarded to the UK for this one.)

aren't Zynga basically dying because of over purchases of other devs/IPs (and i guess some negative press)? And even then - i'd assume they are still selling better than most?


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Post by: archie4208 on February 25, 2014, 06:46:31 AM
Go! Go! Nippon! ~My First Trip to Japan~ sells nearly 10,000 copies on Steam. (http://www.siliconera.com/2014/02/24/mangagamers-go-go-nippon-sold-nearly-10000-copies/)

:uguu
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Post by: tiesto on February 25, 2014, 09:14:58 AM
What about that Ryan Payton game? Didn't that get a ton of hype but when released it was a fart in the wind?
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Post by: Great Rumbler on February 25, 2014, 09:18:42 AM
Quote from: archie4208 on February 25, 2014, 06:46:31 AM
Go! Go! Nippon! ~My First Trip to Japan~ sells nearly 10,000 copies on Steam. (http://www.siliconera.com/2014/02/24/mangagamers-go-go-nippon-sold-nearly-10000-copies/)

:uguu

That's probably 10X it's previous life-time total. Including Japan. :lol
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Post by: a slime appears on February 25, 2014, 10:11:42 AM
Quote from: Takao on February 25, 2014, 12:41:10 AM
That's a solid debut, the problem is that this is the PS4's confirmed release list in Japan after launch:

03/19
    Natural Doctrine
    Nobunaga no Yabou Online: Tenka Mugen no Shou

03/20
    Metal Gear Solid V: Ground Zeroes

04/14
    Final Fantasy XIV Online: Shinsei Eorzea

05/01
    Child of Light

I'm sure a few more western games will get localized, but yeah ...

I was wondering why some guys I know weren't picking up the PS4 because it had no games. WOW they weren't kidding. :lol

Would anyone happen to know what the digital release schedule is like for the PS4 in Japan?

Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on February 25, 2014, 04:51:05 AM
Zynga basically expanded too quickly and didn't have a lot of success with their own products on the App Store.  Their tactic of buying out whatever indie stuff became hot was something that worked for them on Facebook, but didn't work out too well on mobiles.  Still, I think they're the best example of high-profile flopping.  Everyone else in the big-boy-pants club seems to be cruising along fine.

Hey Oscar are you a big mobile fan, btw? Your keen insight and opinions are educated. I'm just curious since I find it typical that anyone who's a "core gamer" is not clued into what goes on in mobile space outside of game developers or working in a related industry.
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Post by: a slime appears on February 25, 2014, 10:36:50 AM
I'm just buttering you up before I gank you, son.

:shaq
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Post by: Tasty on February 25, 2014, 12:18:36 PM
a slime appears is actually one of my alts, along with Creepy Old Guy and Esch.
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Post by: a slime appears on February 25, 2014, 12:55:26 PM
 :lol

In Sony news Gio Corsi's division is out there trying to make sure the PS4 is filled to the brim with ports. Doesn't mean much now but at least it sounds like Sony is concentrating their efforts to make sure there's a steady stream of games and exclusives down the road. Gio Corsi isn't really a well known name but he been at Nexon, Lucasfilm Singapore, Mainframe, and Propaganda for example.

https://twitter.com/giocorsi/status/436217945874636800
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Post by: Human Snorenado on February 25, 2014, 01:21:06 PM
Quote from: Tasty Meat on February 25, 2014, 12:18:36 PM
a slime appears is actually one of my alts, along with Creepy Old Guy and Esch.

(http://i38.tinypic.com/2agp95d.jpg)
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Post by: a slime appears on February 25, 2014, 01:31:11 PM
:meeble

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Yeah, it's me.  :-*
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Post by: Third on February 25, 2014, 01:54:12 PM
322k in just two days?  :o

During a non-holiday period???  :o

Not bad. Much better than I expected after the bitter people from Japan (americans? sega fans?) were reporting that the console was selling like shit there.
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Post by: Cerveza mas fina on February 25, 2014, 02:31:44 PM
Andrex has barely enough personality for one account let alone alts.
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Post by: D3RANG3D on February 25, 2014, 02:46:32 PM
Quote from: a slime appears on February 25, 2014, 12:55:26 PM
:lol

In Sony news Gio Corsi's division is out there trying to make sure the PS4 is filled to the brim with ports. Doesn't mean much now but at least it sounds like Sony is concentrating their efforts to make sure there's a steady stream of games and exclusives down the road. Gio Corsi isn't really a well known name but he been at Nexon, Lucasfilm Singapore, Mainframe, and Propaganda for example.

https://twitter.com/giocorsi/status/436217945874636800

So PC indie table scraps?

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Please be excited.
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Post by: Tasty on February 25, 2014, 03:32:19 PM
Quote from: Lagerless on February 25, 2014, 02:31:44 PM
Andrex has barely enough personality for one account let alone alts.

:lol
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Post by: Takao on February 25, 2014, 04:22:32 PM
Quote from: a slime appears on February 25, 2014, 10:11:42 AM
Would anyone happen to know what the digital release schedule is like for the PS4 in Japan?

The list I posted includes PSN-only games. By the nature of the delivery method, I'm sure there will be some more things announced in the near future, but it's no less barren than the retail lineup.
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Post by: a slime appears on February 25, 2014, 04:23:41 PM
Quote from: D3RANG3D on February 25, 2014, 02:46:32 PM
Quote from: a slime appears on February 25, 2014, 12:55:26 PM
:lol

In Sony news Gio Corsi's division is out there trying to make sure the PS4 is filled to the brim with ports. Doesn't mean much now but at least it sounds like Sony is concentrating their efforts to make sure there's a steady stream of games and exclusives down the road. Gio Corsi isn't really a well known name but he been at Nexon, Lucasfilm Singapore, Mainframe, and Propaganda for example.

https://twitter.com/giocorsi/status/436217945874636800

So PC indie table scraps?

spoiler (click to show/hide)
Please be excited.
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What, no. We're talking about games the public is demanding.

spoiler (click to show/hide)
Yes  :neogaf
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Post by: Tasty on February 25, 2014, 04:28:02 PM
Quote from: Esch on February 25, 2014, 02:18:18 PM
Quote from: Tasty Meat on February 25, 2014, 12:18:36 PM
a slime appears is actually one of my alts, along with Creepy Old Guy and Esch.

(http://i.minus.com/i5Aja6p3rZTTq.gif)

Can I have a video for this?
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Post by: Tasty on February 25, 2014, 05:03:21 PM
Quote from: Esch on February 25, 2014, 04:32:37 PM
Nope. I don't actually watch wrestling because I'm a heterosexual.

Good one LOL

That's wrestling? It looks like a game show.
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Post by: Tasty on February 25, 2014, 05:05:58 PM
Quote from: Esch on February 25, 2014, 05:04:49 PM
Im just assuming because it shows two grown white men on steroids acting like anime characters.

Sounds like you know more about wrestling than me :hitler
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Post by: chronovore on February 25, 2014, 06:04:25 PM
"(...) than I"

 :bluesteel
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Post by: Shaka Khan on February 25, 2014, 09:40:31 PM
Quote from: Lagerless on February 25, 2014, 02:31:44 PM
Andrex has barely enough personality for one account let alone alts.

(http://i.imgur.com/Ee9V0UH.gif)
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Post by: Tasty on February 25, 2014, 09:57:20 PM
mods help
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Post by: Smooth Groove on February 26, 2014, 02:55:02 AM
How did so many PS4s get sold in Japan then?  There's no BC and I assume that most people that cared for Blu-rays already have Blu-ray players. 
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Post by: Tasty on February 26, 2014, 11:35:29 AM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on February 26, 2014, 03:17:38 AM
little time traveling for comparison's sake

WiiU 2-day launch software sales

1.   New Super Mario Bros. U    WiiU    160.140
2.   Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate    WiiU    106.454
3.   Nintendo Land    WiiU    66.583 (this was bundled with some consoles)
4.   ZombiU    WiiU    10.680
5.   Warriors Orochi 3 Hyper    WiiU    7.252
6.   Tekken Tag Tournament 2    WiiU    4.951

knack > mario, eat it miyamoto

NSMBU wasn't bundled until this year.
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Post by: Yeti on February 26, 2014, 01:37:36 PM
Quote from: Tasty Meat on February 26, 2014, 11:35:29 AM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on February 26, 2014, 03:17:38 AM
little time traveling for comparison's sake

WiiU 2-day launch software sales

1.   New Super Mario Bros. U    WiiU    160.140
2.   Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate    WiiU    106.454
3.   Nintendo Land    WiiU    66.583 (this was bundled with some consoles)
4.   ZombiU    WiiU    10.680
5.   Warriors Orochi 3 Hyper    WiiU    7.252
6.   Tekken Tag Tournament 2    WiiU    4.951

knack > mario, eat it miyamoto

NSMBU wasn't bundled until this year.
(http://i2.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/012/132/thatsthejoke.jpg)
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Post by: Tasty on February 26, 2014, 01:47:32 PM
:fbm
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Post by: Steve Contra on February 26, 2014, 03:09:29 PM
At least ps4 has a strong post launch lineup in Japan to keep the momentum going :neogaf

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Post by: Tasty on February 26, 2014, 03:12:48 PM
Quote from: Exodust SoulBurn on February 26, 2014, 03:01:20 PM
Knack did what Sonic couldn't, kill Mario.

Mario's dead? Wow
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Post by: huckleberry on February 26, 2014, 03:49:00 PM
Quote from: Tasty Meat on February 26, 2014, 03:12:48 PM
Quote from: Exodust SoulBurn on February 26, 2014, 03:01:20 PM
Knack did what Sonic couldn't, kill Mario.

Mario's dead? Wow

let the little wop die in peace.
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Post by: Steve Youngblood on February 26, 2014, 04:50:32 PM
Quote from: halgorithmic on February 26, 2014, 03:49:00 PM
Quote from: Tasty Meat on February 26, 2014, 03:12:48 PM
Quote from: Exodust SoulBurn on February 26, 2014, 03:01:20 PM
Knack did what Sonic couldn't, kill Mario.

Mario's dead? Wow

let the little wop die in peace.

Not before Mario Golf 3DS comes out.
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Post by: Cerveza mas fina on February 27, 2014, 01:19:21 PM
Iap and mobile gaming had a good run, EU will hold talks with Apple and Google.

Europe is the best
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Post by: Brehvolution on February 27, 2014, 01:37:17 PM
Quote from: Tasty Meat on February 26, 2014, 03:12:48 PM
Quote from: Exodust SoulBurn on February 26, 2014, 03:01:20 PM
Knack did what Sonic couldn't, kill Mario.

Mario's dead? Wow

pbuh
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Post by: Third on February 27, 2014, 04:42:10 PM
So, has the Ps4 overtaken Wii U's LTD by now?

I'm sure the Japanese sales made sure of that.
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Post by: MCD on March 04, 2014, 03:59:42 AM
6 million units sold as of March 2nd. This includes 370k units sold in Japan.

http://blog.us.playstation.com/2014/03/03/ps4-hits-6-million-ushers-in-new-era-of-social-gameplay/
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Post by: Cerveza mas fina on March 04, 2014, 04:51:51 AM
 :shaq
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Post by: Cerveza mas fina on March 04, 2014, 06:07:54 AM
Apperently Killzone Snore Fall sold 2.1 million units worldwide.

 :miyamoto
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Post by: Third on March 04, 2014, 10:41:09 AM
Outsold the Wii U in three months WOW

Is Wii>>>Wii U transition the worst one ever? Poor Nintendo.
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Post by: Third on March 04, 2014, 10:58:26 AM
SNES>>>N64?

That's when they lost everything.
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Post by: headwalk on March 04, 2014, 12:14:26 PM
cool numbers.

so from this, we can take it that interest is dead in japan with something like 50k for week two of its release, and the rest of the world combined only trotted up 430k in february. that's if we assume these numbers aren't at all greased.
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Post by: Rahxephon91 on March 04, 2014, 05:32:40 PM
PS2---PS3.


That's when they lost everything.
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Post by: Damian79 on March 04, 2014, 05:53:01 PM
No love for the GB->VB?
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Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on March 04, 2014, 06:36:56 PM
Quote from: Third on March 04, 2014, 10:41:09 AM
Is Wii>>>Wii U transition the worst one ever? Poor Nintendo.

Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on March 04, 2014, 10:48:54 AM
I can think of one worse. :teehee

you shouldn't talk about Himu like that
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Post by: Tasty on March 04, 2014, 06:51:44 PM
Quote from: Howard Alan Treesong on March 04, 2014, 06:36:56 PM
Quote from: Third on March 04, 2014, 10:41:09 AM
Is Wii>>>Wii U transition the worst one ever? Poor Nintendo.

Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on March 04, 2014, 10:48:54 AM
I can think of one worse. :teehee

you shouldn't talk about Himu like that

 :ohhh
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Post by: Himu on March 04, 2014, 07:40:38 PM
Quote from: Howard Alan Treesong on March 04, 2014, 06:36:56 PM
Quote from: Third on March 04, 2014, 10:41:09 AM
Is Wii>>>Wii U transition the worst one ever? Poor Nintendo.

Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on March 04, 2014, 10:48:54 AM
I can think of one worse. :teehee

you shouldn't talk about Himu like that

This joke is not cool.
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Post by: Purple Filth on March 04, 2014, 07:42:39 PM
Quote from: Howard Alan Treesong on March 04, 2014, 06:36:56 PM
Quote from: Third on March 04, 2014, 10:41:09 AM
Is Wii>>>Wii U transition the worst one ever? Poor Nintendo.

Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on March 04, 2014, 10:48:54 AM
I can think of one worse. :teehee

you shouldn't talk about Himu like that

 :whoo
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Post by: Shaka Khan on March 04, 2014, 07:51:09 PM
We need a distraction. Quick, somebody fart.
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Post by: Positive Touch on March 04, 2014, 08:04:55 PM
for real that was a serious dick move, and this is coming from someone that really enjoys trolling himu
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Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on March 04, 2014, 08:22:27 PM
text on the itnernet; serious business
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Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on March 04, 2014, 08:25:45 PM
for 8 years people have called me distinguished mentally-challenged a troll yet i am never hurt
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Post by: Himu on March 04, 2014, 08:26:23 PM
I'm pretty sure he didn't know it was such a big deal or meant to hurt. Howard is a good person.  :-[
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Post by: Himu on March 04, 2014, 08:30:38 PM
A second week drop? What's it lookin like?
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Post by: Himu on March 04, 2014, 08:37:53 PM
What do your son and students think of the ps4? give deets.

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Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on March 04, 2014, 09:33:46 PM
Himu, sorry for such a low blow. I just couldn't resist the word play :( I'll always take a stupid pun over doing the right thing.

Thanks for knowing I didn't mean anything by it - I'll try to show better judgment in the future. Love ya boo. :-[
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Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on March 04, 2014, 09:35:33 PM
Considering how Patel gets asshurt over social justice issues on twitter, I was legitimately surprised to see that post.

Quote from: Howard Alan Treesong on March 04, 2014, 06:36:56 PM
Quote from: Third on March 04, 2014, 10:41:09 AM
Is Wii>>>Wii U transition the worst one ever? Poor Nintendo.

Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on March 04, 2014, 10:48:54 AM
I can think of one worse. :teehee

you shouldn't talk about Himu like that
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Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on March 04, 2014, 09:53:30 PM
WE ALWAYS HURT THE ONES WE LOVE THE MOST
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Post by: headwalk on March 04, 2014, 10:07:23 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on March 04, 2014, 08:36:45 PM
supposedly around 50k-60k for week 2, which would be like an 80% drop.  and I know for a *fact* it's not sold out here, in the general sense.

Quote from: some gaffer
PSV (LD: December 17th, 2011) - 324,859 --> 72,479 ( -77.7%)
Wii U (LD: December 8th, 2012) - 308,570 --> 130,653 ( -57.7%)

Rumoured

PS4 (LD: February 22nd, 2014) - 322,083 --> 50,000/60,000 ( -84.5%/ -81.4%)
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Post by: Shaka Khan on March 04, 2014, 10:10:23 PM
Damn those shortages.
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Post by: Joe Molotov on March 04, 2014, 10:30:24 PM
Quote from: Shaka Khan on March 04, 2014, 10:10:23 PM
Damn those shortages.

Yeah, just think what the Wii U could have done with more stock.
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Post by: Tasty on March 04, 2014, 10:35:38 PM
Quote from: headwalk on March 04, 2014, 10:07:23 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on March 04, 2014, 08:36:45 PM
supposedly around 50k-60k for week 2, which would be like an 80% drop.  and I know for a *fact* it's not sold out here, in the general sense.

Quote from: some gaffer
PSV (LD: December 17th, 2011) - 324,859 --> 72,479 ( -77.7%)
Wii U (LD: December 8th, 2012) - 308,570 --> 130,653 ( -57.7%)

Rumoured

PS4 (LD: February 22nd, 2014) - 322,083 --> 50,000/60,000 ( -84.5%/ -81.4%)

PS4 failing harder than Wii U week-over-week :miyamoto
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Post by: archie4208 on March 05, 2014, 06:16:55 AM
Are consoles dead again?
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Post by: DCharlieJP on March 05, 2014, 07:36:21 AM
Tokyo looks pretty sold out of ps4s right now - believe what narative makes your nipples hard, people

Quote
supposedly around 50k-60k for week 2, which would be like an 80% drop.  and I know for a *fact* it's not sold out here, in the general sense.

Come to tokyo - bring ps4s !

Its sold out - i know its hard for people to accept but in built up areas they really are hard to come by.
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Post by: Cerveza mas fina on March 05, 2014, 08:45:01 AM
Man oscar needs consoles to fail or he wont get paid shut up DC
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Post by: Great Rumbler on March 05, 2014, 08:56:09 AM
Quote from: archie4208 on March 05, 2014, 06:16:55 AM
Are consoles dead again?

The Xbone is.  :sabu
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Post by: archie4208 on March 05, 2014, 09:29:34 AM
Quote from: Great Rumbler on March 05, 2014, 08:56:09 AM
Quote from: archie4208 on March 05, 2014, 06:16:55 AM
Are consoles dead again?

The Xbone is.  :sabu

Two down, one to go.  :gaben
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Post by: Third on March 05, 2014, 12:57:51 PM
Quote from: DCharlieJP on March 05, 2014, 07:36:21 AM
Tokyo looks pretty sold out of ps4s right now - believe what narative makes your nipples hard, people

Quote
supposedly around 50k-60k for week 2, which would be like an 80% drop.  and I know for a *fact* it's not sold out here, in the general sense.

Come to tokyo - bring ps4s !

Its sold out - i know its hard for people to accept but in built up areas they really are hard to come by.

Hmmm, who to believe. Someone that lives in Tokyo and can't find a Ps4 on the shelves.
Or a bitter Sega fanboy that saw a few Ps4's sitting on the shelf of a local obscure mom&pop shop.
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Post by: Tasty on March 05, 2014, 02:26:57 PM
Quote from: Esch on March 05, 2014, 01:59:22 PM
Actually if you could read he said that they were sold out in dedicated (ie videogame) stores but available at bigger general stores.

Jeez,  now you have me leaping to Oscar's defense like fandrex :snoop

Good job, alt. :jawalrus
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Post by: Himu on March 05, 2014, 02:43:59 PM
Quote from: Third on March 05, 2014, 12:57:51 PM
Quote from: DCharlieJP on March 05, 2014, 07:36:21 AM
Tokyo looks pretty sold out of ps4s right now - believe what narative makes your nipples hard, people

Quote
supposedly around 50k-60k for week 2, which would be like an 80% drop.  and I know for a *fact* it's not sold out here, in the general sense.

Come to tokyo - bring ps4s !

Its sold out - i know its hard for people to accept but in built up areas they really are hard to come by.

Hmmm, who to believe. Someone that lives in Tokyo and can't find a Ps4 on the shelves.
Or a bitter Sega fanboy that saw a few Ps4's sitting on the shelf of a local obscure mom&pop shop.

Oscar lives in the sticks in Japan. That's a much better barometer for success and trends than a metropolitan city like Tokyo.
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Post by: Takao on March 05, 2014, 03:57:24 PM
Knack won't be able to outsell Super Mario 3D World in Japan because it's getting bounced from PS4 bundles. It's a true tragedy.
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Post by: Human Snorenado on March 05, 2014, 07:08:36 PM
Quote from: archie4208 on March 05, 2014, 09:29:34 AM
Quote from: Great Rumbler on March 05, 2014, 08:56:09 AM
Quote from: archie4208 on March 05, 2014, 06:16:55 AM
Are consoles dead again?

The Xbone is.  :sabu

Two down, one to go.  :gaben

Implying the Wii U ain't deader than the xbone

:sabu
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Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on March 05, 2014, 08:03:06 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on March 05, 2014, 07:12:02 PM
That.... That actually implies it is already dead.  Part of the *two* down, yes?

Is it really fair to count the Wii U as a whole console?
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Post by: chronovore on March 05, 2014, 09:17:41 PM
Quote from: Exodust SoulBurn on March 05, 2014, 07:38:21 PM
Quote from: Third on March 05, 2014, 12:57:51 PM
Quote from: DCharlieJP on March 05, 2014, 07:36:21 AM
Tokyo looks pretty sold out of ps4s right now - believe what narative makes your nipples hard, people

Quote
supposedly around 50k-60k for week 2, which would be like an 80% drop.  and I know for a *fact* it's not sold out here, in the general sense.

Come to tokyo - bring ps4s !

Its sold out - i know its hard for people to accept but in built up areas they really are hard to come by.

Hmmm, who to believe. Someone that lives in Tokyo and can't find a Ps4 on the shelves.
Or a bitter Sega fanboy that saw a few Ps4's sitting on the shelf of a local obscure mom&pop shop.

Don't you do that with the Xbone though? And now it's suddenly idiotic to bring up anecdotal evidence when it doesn't work in your favor?

Man, you become more and more of a joke with every post, Third. I know you well enough to know that you probably have a decent life outside of the internet, why the fuck get up in arms about console wars now? The PS3 getting shat on how many years ago left you bitter or something?

Fandrex #3 up in dis bitch.
Third isn't dumb, he's just trolling us. I mean, I do believe he's a big Sony fan, but I don't think he's stupid enough to believe that PS4 is sailing under clear blue skies and a strong wind.

Quote from: Howard Alan Treesong on March 05, 2014, 08:03:06 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on March 05, 2014, 07:12:02 PM
That.... That actually implies it is already dead.  Part of the *two* down, yes?

Is it really fair to count the Wii U as a whole console?

Yeah, WiiU is actually more of a handicapped portable. Or is that "differently abled" nowadays?
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Post by: Shaka Khan on March 05, 2014, 09:26:32 PM
Are you referring to the 13.6m ww figure? I was going to ask about how it stacks up when aligned with other system launchs.
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Post by: Steve Youngblood on March 05, 2014, 09:57:59 PM
I think digital sales would be higher if not for bandwidth shortages.
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Post by: Himu on March 05, 2014, 10:25:46 PM
DIGITAL SALES ARE HALF THOSE SALES OSCAR WE AREN'T GETTING THE FULL PICTURE
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Post by: Shaka Khan on March 05, 2014, 10:49:05 PM
Quote from: Steve Youngblood on March 05, 2014, 09:57:59 PM
I think digital sales would be higher if not for bandwidth shortages.

:deadpos
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Post by: DCharlieJP on March 06, 2014, 12:06:20 AM
Quote
Specifically, the crappy software sales. 

given 2nd hand buy back prices at Aki and some titles (despite low sales) not being available suggests that pubs went with small shipments. Looking at the % sold through a lot of games according to Chris1964 (from Shinovi) are at 80-100% sell through.

Added to that - A lot of places are offering close to 100% of the price to buy second hand games - it's not quite the simple doom narrative i don't think.

You can only sell what is there to sell, though of course the point is that the appetite still maybe gone for consoles - and that's a longtail discussion

And the line up is what? Knack? Killzone? NBA? Fifa?

The basic take away is that it's hard to draw conclusions either way - it's early days and for each positive post, there's a negative one and everyone seems to be clambering over the data to get it to fit whichever side of the DOOM!/WIN! story they want to be.

PS4 will be fine, it's doing better than people expected despite an awful Japanese line up and a relatively high price.


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Post by: Tasty on March 06, 2014, 01:37:31 AM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on March 06, 2014, 01:13:36 AM
fine, it will be fine.

you're right, i'm wrong.

Don't be so hard on yourself, DC is obviously just a delusional fanboy.

spoiler (click to show/hide)
You being infallible is central to my belief system. :'(
[close]
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Post by: Cerveza mas fina on March 06, 2014, 06:42:00 AM
I just came up with an awesome theory where Titanfall will hurt Xbone sales.

If a dudebro is faced with the option of getting Titanfall for 360 or PC aaaand get the PS4 and still be cheaper off... Ouch!
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Post by: DCharlieJP on March 06, 2014, 08:08:13 AM
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Don't be so hard on yourself, DC is obviously just a delusional fanboy.

if it's any consolation to everyone -- i too am sorry that the PS4 hasn't utterly bombed and seems to actually look like doing okay

I know it's sad but i'm sure if we all just band together we can make it through this horrible turn of events - and we can look to the silver lining that it MIGHT just bomb down the line - after all, one day of sun does not equate to a summer and it could utterly bomb from here on out, so fingers crossed and THEN we can move on with our gaming lives !

If there was a time for there to be ONE victorious console - now is that time - a neck and neck two horse race might not be what we need right now. Once clear winner please.


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Post by: Tasty on March 06, 2014, 10:00:55 AM
Quote from: Lagerless on March 06, 2014, 06:42:00 AM
I just came up with an awesome theory

:comeon
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Post by: Joe Molotov on March 06, 2014, 10:28:37 AM
Quote from: Esch on March 06, 2014, 10:14:12 AM
Quote from: Tasty Meat on March 06, 2014, 01:37:31 AM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on March 06, 2014, 01:13:36 AM
fine, it will be fine.

you're right, i'm wrong.

Don't be so hard on yourself, DC is obviously just a delusional fanboy.

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It takes a village to raise an Andrex.
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Post by: Tasty on March 06, 2014, 11:04:08 AM
I am the sum of everyone on the Bore.

I'm a strong independent homo woman who don't need no man. :gurl
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Post by: bork on March 06, 2014, 05:54:07 PM
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Here are the latest Media Create console hardware sales for the week of Feb 24 - Mar 2 (http://www.the-magicbox.com/), the PS4 sold 66k units in the second week, and according to retailers Sony shipped 380k units of PS4 in the first two weeks, and the PS4 has sold out in Japan; next shipment arrived on Mar 4, which will be counted toward next week's sales.....

    PS4 - 65,685 [374,839]
    3DS LL - 26,027 [351,349]
    PS Vita - 21,581 [238,761]
    PS3 - 13,155 [139,237]
    3DS - 11,986 [166,677]
    Wii U - 8,204 [125,869]
    PSP - 3,652 [41,574]
    PS Vita TV - 1,543 [19,148]
    Xbox 360 - 257 [2,469]

Has the Vita TV PS4 update been released yet?

And I can't even remember now- is the XBone going to be released in Japan?
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Post by: Steve Youngblood on March 06, 2014, 05:55:24 PM
Quote from: bork laser on March 06, 2014, 05:54:07 PM
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Here are the latest Media Create console hardware sales for the week of Feb 24 - Mar 2 (http://www.the-magicbox.com/), the PS4 sold 66k units in the second week, and according to retailers Sony shipped 380k units of PS4 in the first two weeks, and the PS4 has sold out in Japan; next shipment arrived on Mar 4, which will be counted toward next week's sales.....

    PS4 - 65,685 [374,839]
    3DS LL - 26,027 [351,349]
    PS Vita - 21,581 [238,761]
    PS3 - 13,155 [139,237]
    3DS - 11,986 [166,677]
    Wii U - 8,204 [125,869]
    PSP - 3,652 [41,574]
    PS Vita TV - 1,543 [19,148]
    Xbox 360 - 257 [2,469]

Can't even remember now- is the XBone going to be released in Japan?

At some point. But I think it's like a tier 6 territory for them.
Title: Re: Third-kun's Sales Thread of All-Consuming Sales Madness [Enter at your own risk]
Post by: StealthFan on March 06, 2014, 08:47:21 PM
We have a sales thread :leon
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Post by: Tasty on March 06, 2014, 08:54:21 PM
Quote from: Exodust SoulBurn on March 06, 2014, 08:44:20 PM
Quote from: Joe Molotov on March 06, 2014, 10:28:37 AM
It takes a village to raise an Andrex.

One in Animal Crossing, no doubt.

Quote from: Tasty Meat on March 06, 2014, 11:04:08 AM
I am the sum of everyone on the Bore.

I'm a strong independent homo woman who don't need no man. :gurl

What's with the random hate speech? I know most nintards come from conservative backgrounds, but try to reach the modern age even if your favorite toy manufacturer hasn't.

You can't hate speech yourself. :gurl
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Post by: thisismyusername on March 06, 2014, 10:23:47 PM
Quote from: Exodust SoulBurn on March 06, 2014, 08:44:20 PM
What's with the random hate speech?

Kidding right? I seriously do not know anyone that considers "homo" under the hate-speech category. Maybe a long time back, but even then it's used more as a designation (like Andy used it as) than anything.

In any case a better flowing (hurr hurr) sentence for him would've been:

"I'm a strong independent lesbian who don't need no man."
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Post by: Positive Touch on March 06, 2014, 10:29:35 PM
ok bigot
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Post by: Cerveza mas fina on March 07, 2014, 04:52:45 AM
So retailers say ps4 sold out, but Oscar said...
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Post by: benjipwns on March 07, 2014, 05:07:52 AM
They warned us about the social justice warriors infiltrating gaming, now even our sales threads aren't safe.
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Post by: DCharlieJP on March 07, 2014, 09:40:52 AM
restocked everywhere today - let the new generation of non-shitty gaming thrive!

Title: Re: Third-kun's Sales Thread of All-Consuming Sales Madness [Enter at your own risk]
Post by: Tasty on March 07, 2014, 10:52:10 AM
Quote from: Exodust SoulBurn on March 07, 2014, 10:31:30 AM
Quote from: thisismyusername on March 06, 2014, 10:23:47 PM
Quote from: Exodust SoulBurn on March 06, 2014, 08:44:20 PM
What's with the random hate speech?

Kidding right? I seriously do not know anyone that considers "homo" under the hate-speech category. Maybe a long time back, but even then it's used more as a designation (like Andy used it as) than anything.

In any case a better flowing (hurr hurr) sentence for him would've been:

"I'm a strong independent lesbian who don't need no man."

I'm here to talk about the sales in gaming and how this affects the industry as whole. I'm not here to see a Hitler-esque hatemonger post his prejudice, I'm here to get away from that.

GAF is that way ->
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Post by: Steve Youngblood on March 07, 2014, 10:55:04 AM
Quote from: Tasty Meat on March 07, 2014, 10:52:10 AM
GAF is that way ->

He knows the only thing that awaits him there is the banhammer. Which reminds me, it's time for a routine check for new Wrath alts.
Title: Re: Third-kun's Sales Thread of All-Consuming Sales Madness [Enter at your own risk]
Post by: thisismyusername on March 07, 2014, 11:11:33 AM
Quote from: Exodust SoulBurn on March 07, 2014, 10:31:30 AM
Quote from: thisismyusername on March 06, 2014, 10:23:47 PM
Quote from: Exodust SoulBurn on March 06, 2014, 08:44:20 PM
What's with the random hate speech?

Kidding right? I seriously do not know anyone that considers "homo" under the hate-speech category. Maybe a long time back, but even then it's used more as a designation (like Andy used it as) than anything.

In any case a better flowing (hurr hurr) sentence for him would've been:

"I'm a strong independent lesbian who don't need no man."

I'm here to talk about the sales in gaming and how this affects the industry as whole. I'm not here to see a Hitler-esque hatemonger post his prejudice, I'm here to get away from that.

 :badass
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Post by: Tasty on March 07, 2014, 11:29:07 AM
Quote from: Steve Youngblood on March 07, 2014, 10:55:04 AM
Quote from: Tasty Meat on March 07, 2014, 10:52:10 AM
GAF is that way ->

He knows the only thing that awaits him there is the banhammer. Which reminds me, it's time for a routine check for new Wrath alts.

:jawalrus
Title: Re: Third-kun's Sales Thread of All-Consuming Sales Madness [Enter at your own risk]
Post by: Tasty on March 07, 2014, 11:48:38 AM
Quote from: Esch on March 07, 2014, 11:33:01 AM
Quote from: Steve Youngblood on March 07, 2014, 10:55:04 AM
Quote from: Tasty Meat on March 07, 2014, 10:52:10 AM
GAF is that way ->

He knows the only thing that awaits him there is the banhammer. Which reminds me, it's time for a routine check for new Wrath alts.

They're never hard to find. They usually have Wrath in the name or have an avatar/name based around horror movies or something dark :heh

Or some creepy Dennis-looking dude as the avatar. :heh

(http://asset3.neogaf.com/forum/image.php?u=5041&dateline=1325248600) (http://asset3.neogaf.com/forum/image.php?u=58226&dateline=1389712969)
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Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on March 07, 2014, 12:04:00 PM
He currently posts as Squiddy Cracker.
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Post by: a slime appears on March 07, 2014, 11:00:50 PM
Think MS is going to bother with Japan this time around? Not having a console in that territory isn't going to stop the major Japanese publishers from putting out their games on the ONE. Sure they'd lose out on the small guys but their games don't push systems, so who cares?
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Post by: Himu on March 07, 2014, 11:18:02 PM
MS making Japan a low tier priority consoles tells all we need to know man
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Post by: Himu on March 10, 2014, 11:41:03 AM
http://techcrunch.com/2014/03/09/console-crisis/

:gladbron
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Post by: Cerveza mas fina on March 10, 2014, 11:48:00 AM
Is this that article from that bimbo with a background in mobile?
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Post by: Himu on March 10, 2014, 11:59:49 AM
And she's a bimbo, why exactly?
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Post by: Himu on March 10, 2014, 12:05:29 PM
And she's a bimbo, why exactly?
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Post by: Cerveza mas fina on March 10, 2014, 12:51:55 PM
Because she doesn't know what she is talking about?
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Post by: Cerveza mas fina on March 10, 2014, 01:10:56 PM
Quote from: Esch on March 10, 2014, 12:58:11 PM
Quote from: Lagerless on March 10, 2014, 12:51:55 PM
Because she doesn't know what she is talking about?

Her article is almost 100% spot on. She uses data to support her argument, doesn't overextend, uses cases. Meanwhile your off the cuff sexist ad hominem highlights your insecurity...

:heh

(http://i.minus.com/iZcTuAo2yjZsj.gif)
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Post by: Himu on March 10, 2014, 01:15:41 PM
I was reading the gaf thread and niccas be like "this is infactual" when it's shit people have been saying for a while
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Post by: Cerveza mas fina on March 10, 2014, 01:20:42 PM
I didn't even read the article
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Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on March 10, 2014, 01:57:09 PM
Quote from: Lagerless on March 10, 2014, 01:20:42 PM
I didn't even read the article

and yet that didn't keep you from opening your fool mouth

who's the bimbo now
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Post by: a slime appears on March 10, 2014, 02:11:27 PM
Quote from: Formerly Known As Himuro on March 10, 2014, 01:15:41 PM
I was reading the gaf thread and niccas be like "this is infactual" when it's shit people have been saying for a while

Not a lot of people can correctlyread market trends and touting guesstimates at NPD numbers, while not accurate, isn't off the mark either. NeoGAF and the gaming community at large typically operate with blinders on and willingly ignore the obvious signs of a weakening market so naturally they would oblivious about these matters and cry foul. Usually the best indicators are what major publishers are doing since they employ economic gurus who can make intelligent business recommendations based off current market conditions. Reading their fiscal year or quarterly earning results to investors can provide a lot of great insight into the current challenges of the industry.

Few examples:
Activision Blizzard: Investor Relations (http://investor.activision.com/index.cfm) - Financial Reports (http://investor.activision.com/reports.cfm)
Electronic Arts: Investor Relations (http://investor.ea.com/index.cfm) - Quarterly Results (http://investor.ea.com/results.cfm)
Square Enix: Investor Relations (http://www.hd.square-enix.com/eng/ir/index.html) - Quarterly Results (http://www.hd.square-enix.com/eng/ir/library/financial.html)

Considering how easy it is to get these reports and to jump on these conference calls it's funny that not a lot in the media do it. Yet you see constant conjecture without any factual statistics out there, which is loony.
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Post by: Cerveza mas fina on March 10, 2014, 04:33:23 PM
Quote from: Howard Alan Treesong on March 10, 2014, 01:57:09 PM
Quote from: Lagerless on March 10, 2014, 01:20:42 PM
I didn't even read the article

and yet that didn't keep you from opening your fool mouth

who's the bimbo now

People who replied?

But really its probably just another pessimistic piece on consoles from a person with a vested interest in the mobile arena.
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Post by: Positive Touch on March 10, 2014, 04:54:11 PM
why are you committed to being so stupid
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Post by: Cerveza mas fina on March 10, 2014, 04:56:23 PM
You know like loads of losers try to be cool on the forums cause they arent cool or smart irl?

Im like the opposite.
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Post by: headwalk on March 10, 2014, 05:24:31 PM
Quote from: Lagerless on March 10, 2014, 11:48:00 AM
Is this that article from that bimbo with a background in mobile?

Quote from: Lagerless on March 10, 2014, 12:51:55 PM
Because she doesn't know what she is talking about?

Quote from: Lagerless on March 10, 2014, 01:20:42 PM
I didn't even read the article

the perfect sonygaf ambassador.
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Post by: Cerveza mas fina on March 10, 2014, 05:37:26 PM
Cool enough that you stored my picture on your hdd for 5 years and I dont even know who you are
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Post by: Cerveza mas fina on March 10, 2014, 05:45:34 PM
Sure sure
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Post by: brob on March 10, 2014, 05:57:53 PM
stay vigilant, lager.


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Post by: AdmiralViscen on March 10, 2014, 06:17:55 PM
I've never liked so many posts in one page

 :rejoice
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Post by: Cerveza mas fina on March 10, 2014, 06:37:52 PM
Thanks for inviting me to the Bore Admiral
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Post by: Damian79 on March 10, 2014, 06:48:23 PM
Actually pc game sales is more than consoles atm.

http://digitalriverftp01.cloudapp.net/helpcentral/pmrc/marketing_materials/white_papers/White_Paper_Digital_River_Game_Changers.pdf
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Post by: tiesto on March 10, 2014, 06:53:04 PM
Quote from: Damian79 on March 10, 2014, 06:48:23 PM
Actually pc game sales is more than consoles atm.

http://digitalriverftp01.cloudapp.net/helpcentral/pmrc/marketing_materials/white_papers/White_Paper_Digital_River_Game_Changers.pdf

Isn't the PC market in a decline too? What with Win 8 bombing and people moving to Macs, tablets, etc.?
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Post by: thisismyusername on March 10, 2014, 06:57:50 PM
Quote from: tiesto on March 10, 2014, 06:53:04 PM
Quote from: Damian79 on March 10, 2014, 06:48:23 PM
Actually pc game sales is more than consoles atm.

http://digitalriverftp01.cloudapp.net/helpcentral/pmrc/marketing_materials/white_papers/White_Paper_Digital_River_Game_Changers.pdf

Isn't the PC market in a decline too? What with Win 8 bombing and people moving to Macs, tablets, etc.?

Hardware? Yes.

Software/Steam? LOL NO.
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Post by: archie4208 on March 10, 2014, 07:44:27 PM
Enthusiast market is growing.

Off the shelf Dells are in a freefall.
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Post by: Rufus on March 10, 2014, 07:46:01 PM
Basically, the people wo only read emails, surf the internet, etc. don't actually need a desktop.
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Post by: Cerveza mas fina on March 11, 2014, 01:07:07 AM
Another factor is that people that are only light users dont need to upgrade as often as they did.

A 5 year old laptop is still great for internet and word.
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Post by: Damian79 on March 11, 2014, 01:35:12 AM
Quote from: Lagerless on March 11, 2014, 01:07:07 AM
Another factor is that people that are only light users dont need to upgrade as often as they did.

A 5 year old laptop is still great for internet and word AND MOST GAMES.

.
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Post by: Fifstar on March 11, 2014, 04:38:41 AM
Eh, not really true for a 5 year old laptop. But otherwise, capable gaming pcs (or upgrades, if you have a decent cpu) are as affordable as ever in comparison to consoles.
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Post by: archie4208 on March 11, 2014, 06:05:05 AM
Anecdotal, but my PC is nearly 4 years old and I have no desire to upgrade or build a new one.  That'll change whenever The Witcher 3 comes out, but for now I'm content.
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Post by: Himu on March 11, 2014, 01:09:50 PM
I have a 2009 gaming laptop and I can run everything I want except Saints Row The Third.
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Post by: cool breeze on March 11, 2014, 02:05:00 PM
Quote from: archie4208 on March 11, 2014, 06:05:05 AM
Anecdotal, but my PC is nearly 4 years old and I have no desire to upgrade or build a new one.  That'll change whenever The Witcher 3 comes out, but for now I'm content.

yeah, we've gotten to the point where games are made to run on a 2005 console, and since the 8800gt (imo) we've had inexpensive gpus that demolished consoles.  the disparity has only gotten worse over the years.  add to that publishers making better PC ports (better optimized) and you can get by with older low to mid range cards for a while.  there are reasons to upgrade for enthusiasts who want the best image quality, multi monitors, etc. but it's not really crucial anymore.

witcher 3, star citizen (?), and the wave of next gen only games (batman ak, the division) might start to wear on older cards.  we'll see.
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Post by: Joe Molotov on March 11, 2014, 03:20:13 PM
It's all about 1440p now, enjoy your stone-age tier 720/1080p gaming. :yuck
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Post by: cool breeze on March 11, 2014, 03:36:47 PM
still using a many, many years old 1680x1050 monitor (or 1080p tv) and often downsample games   :fbm

new gpu and monitor this year.  I just need to find a higher res 16:10 IPS 120hz monitor around ~22" with a matte screen and fast response time and maybe gsync.  it probably exists in korea.
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Post by: Human Snorenado on March 11, 2014, 04:19:51 PM
There's no way I'm even gonna bother trying to get the Witcher 3 running on a 5770. NOPE.
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Post by: Rufus on March 11, 2014, 06:09:56 PM
Hope my CPU holds out a little while longer, I'm broke as fuck...
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Post by: Himu on March 11, 2014, 06:22:53 PM
Oh right. I can't run Witcher 2 to a point where it is playable with high fps and it is a main reason I want to upgrade to a computer with a quad. Still rocking a duo and can play most games on high or medium.
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Post by: Great Rumbler on March 11, 2014, 06:28:15 PM
I'm thinking very hard about pulling the trigger on a GTX 750 ti, apparently it's the best around in terms of a price/performance ratio.
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Post by: Rufus on March 11, 2014, 06:33:58 PM
Quote from: Formerly Known As Himuro on March 11, 2014, 06:22:53 PM
Oh right. I can't run Witcher 2 to a point where it is playable with high fps and it is a main reason I want to upgrade to a computer with a quad. Still rocking a duo and can play most games on high or medium.
Mantle could extend my X4 965s life, but I don't think CD Project is doing anything with it (yet), so... Here's hoping games take more advantage of cores, rather than per-core performance.

Quote from: Great Rumbler on March 11, 2014, 06:28:15 PM
I'm thinking very hard about pulling the trigger on a GTX 750 ti, apparently it's the best around in terms of a price/performance ratio.
Going by Techreport's benches AMDs 265 has it beat, but good luck finding one at MRSP. Or finding one, period. It also sucks much more power.

http://techreport.com/review/26050/nvidia-geforce-gtx-750-ti-maxwell-graphics-processor
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Post by: Huff on March 11, 2014, 07:46:43 PM
i guess yal can wait another year to upgrade since w3 aint coming anytime soon
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Post by: Himu on March 11, 2014, 08:00:52 PM
Why? GPUs are beyond consoles already. In no rush. Any upgrade would be an upgrade for me, especially since NVidia is apparently working on GTX 800's.
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Post by: Rufus on March 11, 2014, 08:43:21 PM
Quote from: Huff on March 11, 2014, 07:46:43 PM
i guess yal can wait another year to upgrade since w3 aint coming anytime soon
:tocry
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Post by: archie4208 on March 11, 2014, 08:46:33 PM
Quote from: Rufus on March 11, 2014, 08:43:21 PM
Quote from: Huff on March 11, 2014, 07:46:43 PM
i guess yal can wait another year to upgrade since w3 aint coming anytime soon
:tocry

I'm ok with this.

The GTX 800 series will make W3 smooth as butter.  :drool
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Post by: headwalk on March 11, 2014, 08:47:16 PM
witcher 3 was always going to be a $300 game which came with a pack in GPU for me, i'd have been bummed if it came out before maxwell.
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Post by: tiesto on March 11, 2014, 09:02:27 PM
I'm just gonna get Witcher 3 on PS4. Sucks that the save won't transfer over (if they have bonuses for playing the first 2 games through) but oh well. No inclination on getting a new desktop anytime soon, laptop does everything that I need it to (DJing, MS Office, Visual Studio) and I don't care enough about high-end PC gaming to make the investment.
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Post by: Tasty on March 11, 2014, 09:39:19 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on March 11, 2014, 09:22:21 PM
here's a link to that sad sony pony confessing to his shame btw

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=103921593&postcount=604 (http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=103921593&postcount=604)

 :picard

:rofl

THE BIAS IS FINALLY REVEALED
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Post by: Tasty on March 11, 2014, 09:40:30 PM
Why did they ever unban him. :picard
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Post by: Human Snorenado on March 11, 2014, 09:46:20 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on March 11, 2014, 09:22:21 PM
here's a link to that sad sony pony confessing to his shame btw

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=103921593&postcount=604 (http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=103921593&postcount=604)

 :picard

:gurl

Dcharlie, I am disappoint.
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Post by: Himu on March 11, 2014, 10:11:36 PM
I wish switcher 2 came out on ps3. I love the game, but the low frame rate on my rig is :tocry and I want to be caught up on story when 3 comes out.
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Post by: Joe Molotov on March 11, 2014, 10:11:59 PM
Quote from: Creepy Old Guy on March 11, 2014, 09:46:20 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on March 11, 2014, 09:22:21 PM
here's a link to that sad sony pony confessing to his shame btw

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=103921593&postcount=604 (http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=103921593&postcount=604)

 :picard

:gurl

Dcharlie, I am disappoint.

Not like this.
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Post by: Rahxephon91 on March 11, 2014, 10:13:40 PM
Sucks that Witcher 3 isn't coming this year. That was going to be the game for my PS4 this year.
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Post by: archie4208 on March 11, 2014, 10:21:06 PM
Quote from: Formerly Known As Himuro on March 11, 2014, 10:11:36 PM
I wish switcher 2 came out on ps3. I love the game, but the low frame rate on my rig is :tocry and I want to be caught up on story when 3 comes out.

The framerate would have been even lower on PS3.

Title: Re: Third-kun's Sales Thread of All-Consuming Sales Madness [Enter at your own risk]
Post by: Himu on March 11, 2014, 10:25:22 PM
:tocry
Title: Re: Third-kun's Sales Thread of All-Consuming Sales Madness [Enter at your own risk]
Post by: Rahxephon91 on March 11, 2014, 10:34:51 PM
Quote from: archie4208 on March 11, 2014, 10:21:06 PM
Quote from: Formerly Known As Himuro on March 11, 2014, 10:11:36 PM
I wish switcher 2 came out on ps3. I love the game, but the low frame rate on my rig is :tocry and I want to be caught up on story when 3 comes out.

The framerate would have been even lower on PS3.
I don't know about that. The xbox version is  pretty great.
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Post by: headwalk on March 12, 2014, 09:28:30 AM
35k.

i guess those tokyo shopkeepers didn't want to incur the wrath of the gaijin.

Quote from: Formerly Known As Himuro on March 11, 2014, 10:11:36 PM
I wish switcher 2 came out on ps3. I love the game, but the low frame rate on my rig is :tocry and I want to be caught up on story when 3 comes out.

g800 should be here by Q3. a new rig with a $1 steam sale copy of witcher 2 doesn't seem like an unreasonable christmas present to yourself.
Title: Re: Third-kun's Sales Thread of All-Consuming Sales Madness [Enter at your own risk]
Post by: Himu on March 12, 2014, 10:59:56 AM
I already have The Witcher 2 on steam.
Title: Re: Third-kun's Sales Thread of All-Consuming Sales Madness [Enter at your own risk]
Post by: Brehvolution on March 12, 2014, 11:42:49 AM
On newegg, Radeon 270x's have dropped $50-$90 overnight! :rejoice
Title: Re: Third-kun's Sales Thread of All-Consuming Sales Madness [Enter at your own risk]
Post by: Great Rumbler on March 12, 2014, 11:56:01 AM
Our long, national bitcoin nightmare is finally over. :rejoice
Title: Re: Third-kun's Sales Thread of All-Consuming Sales Madness [Enter at your own risk]
Post by: Himu on March 12, 2014, 12:09:40 PM
AMD :pacspit
Title: Re: Third-kun's Sales Thread of All-Consuming Sales Madness [Enter at your own risk]
Post by: Brehvolution on March 12, 2014, 12:12:19 PM
Quote from: Formerly Known As Himuro on March 12, 2014, 12:09:40 PM
AMD :pacspit
(http://i59.tinypic.com/1zvprv7.jpg)
Title: Re: Third-kun's Sales Thread of All-Consuming Sales Madness [Enter at your own risk]
Post by: Himu on March 12, 2014, 12:13:28 PM
I DID :pacspit

Intel and Nvidia or gtfo.

Getting this bad boy.

http://www.amazon.com/15-J059nr-Edition-i7-4700MQ-2-4GHz-NVIDIA/dp/B00FJ4I6SU#productDetails

Desktops :pacspit
Title: Re: Third-kun's Sales Thread of All-Consuming Sales Madness [Enter at your own risk]
Post by: Beezy on March 12, 2014, 12:38:36 PM
Quote from: Formerly Known As Himuro on March 12, 2014, 12:13:28 PM
Desktops :pacspit
:comeon
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Post by: Rufus on March 12, 2014, 12:52:30 PM
Quote from: Zero Hero on March 12, 2014, 12:12:19 PM
Quote from: Formerly Known As Himuro on March 12, 2014, 12:09:40 PM
AMD :pacspit
(http://i59.tinypic.com/1zvprv7.jpg)
I can't like that. I want to though. :lol
Title: Re: Third-kun's Sales Thread of All-Consuming Sales Madness [Enter at your own risk]
Post by: Himu on March 12, 2014, 01:06:38 PM
Quote from: Beezy on March 12, 2014, 12:38:36 PM
Quote from: Formerly Known As Himuro on March 12, 2014, 12:13:28 PM
Desktops :pacspit
:comeon

:pacspit

Desktop scum

prole will back me
Title: Re: Third-kun's Sales Thread of All-Consuming Sales Madness [Enter at your own risk]
Post by: Tasty on March 12, 2014, 01:12:27 PM
All in ones! :bow

Guys? ...guys??
Title: Re: Third-kun's Sales Thread of All-Consuming Sales Madness [Enter at your own risk]
Post by: Tasty on March 12, 2014, 01:13:06 PM
Also AMD's are consistently shit for Linux so I agree with Himu.

:pacspit AMD
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Post by: Rufus on March 12, 2014, 01:15:20 PM
As if AMD GPUs matter on Android, which is the only Linux you give a shit about. :comeon
Title: Re: Third-kun's Sales Thread of All-Consuming Sales Madness [Enter at your own risk]
Post by: Tasty on March 12, 2014, 01:30:32 PM
<typing this on Ubuntu Gnome-running System76 (https://www.system76.com/)>
Title: Re: Third-kun's Sales Thread of All-Consuming Sales Madness [Enter at your own risk]
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on March 12, 2014, 04:54:10 PM
PS4 continuing to be number 1 in Japan.

Everything according to keikaku.
Title: Re: Third-kun's Sales Thread of All-Consuming Sales Madness [Enter at your own risk]
Post by: headwalk on March 12, 2014, 05:04:00 PM
the worst thing about dcharlie's department store tour of delusion is that he must've known that the media create sales would tell all in a few days anyway.

he wouldn't have done that if he were just going full lagerless and refuting any fact as a matter of corporate subservient cause. he must have honestly, genuinely believed it.

heartbreaking.
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Post by: Rahxephon91 on March 12, 2014, 05:49:26 PM
Quote from: Lagerless on March 12, 2014, 04:54:10 PM
PS4 continuing to be number 1 in Japan.

Everything according to keikaku.
Save us PS4!
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Post by: DCharlieJP on March 12, 2014, 05:55:52 PM
Quote
Lager's posts are pretty funny, but at least he's not as bad as that one Sony Pony in the GAF Media Create thread who's going into Tokyo shops and recording himself asking shop staff about PS4 stock to win message board arguments.

:lol what an idiot!

hey wait!

Quote
he worst thing about dcharlie's department store tour of delusion is that he must've known that the media create sales would tell all in a few days anyway.

if anyone actually read what i was saying, you'd have noted that i specifically said that i didn't think it was selling big numbers - just that it wasn't in stock everywhere, and not that that particularly said anything about demand. It's all pretty simple stuff. This was more to get at the mpl90 hourly updates taken from Yodobashi's website that apparently were showing that Japan was swimming in stock -last- week, whilst people were saying it wasn't.

#shrug - no skin off my shit, stuff happens.

And also - the whole "media create would tell all" -still- only makes sense if you think that there was stock everywhere -last- week. This week it's going to slump into the 25-28k range - the first ed bundles are sold out and everywhere has the new packs in and they ain't moving.
Title: Re: Third-kun's Sales Thread of All-Consuming Sales Madness [Enter at your own risk]
Post by: Rufus on March 12, 2014, 06:06:59 PM
Quote from: Tasty Meat on March 12, 2014, 01:30:32 PM
<typing this on Ubuntu Gnome-running System76 (https://www.system76.com/)>
:leon
Well, well...
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Post by: Tasty on March 12, 2014, 06:10:30 PM
Quote from: Rufus on March 12, 2014, 06:06:59 PM
Quote from: Tasty Meat on March 12, 2014, 01:30:32 PM
<typing this on Ubuntu Gnome-running System76 (https://www.system76.com/)>
:leon
Well, well...

spoiler (click to show/hide)
Might be trading it for a Macbook Air soon. :(

Damn Microsoft PPTP VPN doesn't work on Linux... :'(
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Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on March 12, 2014, 06:08:51 PM
dude, whatever the reason or hypothesis... if you're recording conversations with clerks to win Internet fights, you're getting waaaay too invested.  very unhealthy behaviour.

DC, Oscar is so right about this. Seriously, get help.

spoiler (click to show/hide)
slurp slurp
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Title: Re: Third-kun's Sales Thread of All-Consuming Sales Madness [Enter at your own risk]
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on March 12, 2014, 06:22:52 PM
Japan sales in a month account for US sales in a week I don't even know why you guys care. Follow the money.
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Post by: Beezy on March 12, 2014, 08:10:11 PM
Quote from: Formerly Known As Himuro on March 12, 2014, 01:06:38 PM
Quote from: Beezy on March 12, 2014, 12:38:36 PM
Quote from: Formerly Known As Himuro on March 12, 2014, 12:13:28 PM
Desktops :pacspit
:comeon

:pacspit

Desktop scum

prole will back me
Enjoy your chiclet keyboard, shitty screen, and overpriced everything else. Bitch. :gurl
Title: Re: Third-kun's Sales Thread of All-Consuming Sales Madness [Enter at your own risk]
Post by: Himu on March 12, 2014, 08:15:06 PM
Quote from: Beezy on March 12, 2014, 08:10:11 PM
Quote from: Formerly Known As Himuro on March 12, 2014, 01:06:38 PM
Quote from: Beezy on March 12, 2014, 12:38:36 PM
Quote from: Formerly Known As Himuro on March 12, 2014, 12:13:28 PM
Desktops :pacspit
:comeon

:pacspit

Desktop scum

prole will back me
Enjoy your chiclet keyboard, shitty screen, and overpriced everything else. Bitch. :gurl

Enjoy your wires, and having to take the tower and monitor and all that bullshit when you move! :aah

Shitty screen? Screen is fine. Plus, it has hdmi so it doesn't even matter. Never again have the torture of fiddling with a desktop! :aah Wires dangling all over the place, being COMPLETELY immobile! The 1980's called!
Title: Re: Third-kun's Sales Thread of All-Consuming Sales Madness [Enter at your own risk]
Post by: Himu on March 12, 2014, 08:27:43 PM
Naw.

I'd rather have an apartment.

Have dining rooms you actively use twice a year, brehs. Waste of space. Apartments for life.
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Post by: Steve Youngblood on March 12, 2014, 08:38:03 PM
Quote from: Formerly Known As Himuro on March 12, 2014, 08:15:06 PM
Enjoy your wires, and having to take the tower and monitor and all that bullshit when you move! :aah

Wow. Not that I really feel like getting into a laptop vs. desktop pissing match, but this reason comes across as pretty lame. A general desire for mobility? Sure. Concern that a desktop is more cumbersome when moving? How often do you move?
Title: Re: Third-kun's Sales Thread of All-Consuming Sales Madness [Enter at your own risk]
Post by: Beezy on March 12, 2014, 08:38:10 PM
Quote from: Formerly Known As Himuro on March 12, 2014, 08:15:06 PM
Quote from: Beezy on March 12, 2014, 08:10:11 PM
Quote from: Formerly Known As Himuro on March 12, 2014, 01:06:38 PM
Quote from: Beezy on March 12, 2014, 12:38:36 PM
Quote from: Formerly Known As Himuro on March 12, 2014, 12:13:28 PM
Desktops :pacspit
:comeon

:pacspit

Desktop scum

prole will back me
Enjoy your chiclet keyboard, shitty screen, and overpriced everything else. Bitch. :gurl

Enjoy your wires, and having to take the tower and monitor and all that bullshit when you move! :aah

Shitty screen? Screen is fine. Plus, it has hdmi so it doesn't even matter. Never again have the torture of fiddling with a desktop! :aah Wires dangling all over the place, being COMPLETELY immobile! The 1980's called!
??? ??? ???

Do you move every month or something? Do you take your hdtv and consoles from room to room while you game? These complaints make no sense to me.
Title: Re: Third-kun's Sales Thread of All-Consuming Sales Madness [Enter at your own risk]
Post by: Himu on March 12, 2014, 08:40:56 PM
Quote from: Steve Youngblood on March 12, 2014, 08:38:03 PM
Quote from: Formerly Known As Himuro on March 12, 2014, 08:15:06 PM
Enjoy your wires, and having to take the tower and monitor and all that bullshit when you move! :aah

Wow. Not that I really feel like getting into a laptop vs. desktop pissing match, but this reason comes across as pretty lame. A general desire for mobility? Sure. Concern that a desktop is more cumbersome when moving? How often do you move?

It's an extension of the mobility argument. I had a desktop a long part of college. During breaks I would put it in storage. It was the worst thing ever. Now I'll never move another desktop ever again. :aah
Title: Re: Third-kun's Sales Thread of All-Consuming Sales Madness [Enter at your own risk]
Post by: Himu on March 12, 2014, 08:44:11 PM
Quote from: Beezy on March 12, 2014, 08:38:10 PM
Quote from: Formerly Known As Himuro on March 12, 2014, 08:15:06 PM
Quote from: Beezy on March 12, 2014, 08:10:11 PM
Quote from: Formerly Known As Himuro on March 12, 2014, 01:06:38 PM
Quote from: Beezy on March 12, 2014, 12:38:36 PM
Quote from: Formerly Known As Himuro on March 12, 2014, 12:13:28 PM
Desktops :pacspit
:comeon

:pacspit

Desktop scum

prole will back me
Enjoy your chiclet keyboard, shitty screen, and overpriced everything else. Bitch. :gurl

Enjoy your wires, and having to take the tower and monitor and all that bullshit when you move! :aah

Shitty screen? Screen is fine. Plus, it has hdmi so it doesn't even matter. Never again have the torture of fiddling with a desktop! :aah Wires dangling all over the place, being COMPLETELY immobile! The 1980's called!
??? ??? ???

Do you move every month or something? Do you take your hdtv and consoles from room to room while you game? These complaints make no sense to me.

Nope, but I can bring my laptop with me anywhere. All I need is an hdmi cable and controller adapter. The tv in the other room doesn't have netflix, so I take my laptop and hook it up to the tv for my mom and let her use it or bring in my ps3. Sure, could be mitigated by having a tablet or something for her, but fuck it, a ton of a lot more use than a desktop.

As for wires, I hate the clutter that desktops create.

I was considering an htpc for all of these reasons, but a lot of htpc's aren't built for power and the cases are made as such.
Title: Re: Third-kun's Sales Thread of All-Consuming Sales Madness [Enter at your own risk]
Post by: Steve Youngblood on March 12, 2014, 08:47:41 PM
Quote from: Formerly Known As Himuro on March 12, 2014, 08:40:56 PM
It's an extension of the mobility argument. I had a desktop a long part of college. During breaks I would put it in storage. It was the worst thing ever. Now I'll never move another desktop ever again. :aah

Fair enough, I suppose. Moving is a distant concern for me. And in terms of device usage, the existence of smart phones and tablets have rendered the laptop near-useless to me. For casual internet consumption that I might do on the couch or in bed, I'd much rather use my iPhone/iPad. For real productivity or gaming, I'd much rather use a desktop.
Title: Re: Third-kun's Sales Thread of All-Consuming Sales Madness [Enter at your own risk]
Post by: Himu on March 12, 2014, 08:49:38 PM
Going on a business trip next month. Bringing my laptop and an hdmi cable just in case. :aah

:piss desktops
:piss an old relic
Title: Re: Third-kun's Sales Thread of All-Consuming Sales Madness [Enter at your own risk]
Post by: headwalk on March 12, 2014, 08:51:45 PM
desktops just feel right. the 24+ inches (x2/3) of screen real estate, the diligent and near silent obelisk powering software beyond your wildest dreams, the bookshelf speakers waiting to warm your soul, the clicky mechanical keyboard waiting to actuate your fingers to orgasm. the whole desktop experience is the rolls-royce of gaming.

when i see people hunched over a tiny claustrophobic laptop screen for hours on end, i just want to buy them a coffee and promise them that one day it'll all be okay.
Title: Re: Third-kun's Sales Thread of All-Consuming Sales Madness [Enter at your own risk]
Post by: Human Snorenado on March 12, 2014, 09:18:34 PM
You guys.

You can't use a desktop in the park.

SO SIMPLE.
Title: Re: Third-kun's Sales Thread of All-Consuming Sales Madness [Enter at your own risk]
Post by: Tasty on March 12, 2014, 10:21:17 PM
Quote from: Formerly Known As Himuro on March 12, 2014, 08:27:43 PM
Naw.

I'd rather have an apartment.

Have dining rooms you actively use twice a year, brehs. Waste of space. Apartments for life.

Studios are where it's at. :aah

Hipster chic minimalism to the max. :aah
Title: Re: Third-kun's Sales Thread of All-Consuming Sales Madness [Enter at your own risk]
Post by: Himu on March 12, 2014, 10:30:42 PM
HAHAHAHAHAHA :sabu :aah
Title: Re: Third-kun's Sales Thread of All-Consuming Sales Madness [Enter at your own risk]
Post by: Joe Molotov on March 12, 2014, 11:02:56 PM
Quote from: Creepy Old Guy on March 12, 2014, 09:18:34 PM
You guys.

You can't use a desktop in the park.

SO SIMPLE.

We've come full circle.
Title: Re: Third-kun's Sales Thread of All-Consuming Sales Madness [Enter at your own risk]
Post by: tiesto on March 13, 2014, 12:03:02 AM
Can't take a desktop around to DJ, hence why my last purchase was a laptop and not a desktop. If I do get another PC I'd probably get a desktop, they are just more comfortable to use, but I can't complain about the performance of mine even now.
Title: Re: Third-kun's Sales Thread of All-Consuming Sales Madness [Enter at your own risk]
Post by: Mupepe on March 13, 2014, 10:43:52 AM
Quote from: Formerly Known As Himuro on March 12, 2014, 08:40:56 PM
Quote from: Steve Youngblood on March 12, 2014, 08:38:03 PM
Quote from: Formerly Known As Himuro on March 12, 2014, 08:15:06 PM
Enjoy your wires, and having to take the tower and monitor and all that bullshit when you move! :aah

Wow. Not that I really feel like getting into a laptop vs. desktop pissing match, but this reason comes across as pretty lame. A general desire for mobility? Sure. Concern that a desktop is more cumbersome when moving? How often do you move?

It's an extension of the mobility argument. I had a desktop a long part of college. During breaks I would put it in storage. It was the worst thing ever. Now I'll never move another desktop ever again. :aah
:rofl :rofl

:himu
Title: Re: Third-kun's Sales Thread of All-Consuming Sales Madness [Enter at your own risk]
Post by: headwalk on March 13, 2014, 10:47:03 AM
Quote from: tiesto on March 13, 2014, 12:03:02 AM
Can't take a desktop around to DJ, hence why my last purchase was a laptop and not a desktop. If I do get another PC I'd probably get a desktop, they are just more comfortable to use, but I can't complain about the performance of mine even now.

it's weird how a desktop PC and a laptop is a redundancy to a lot people, but a desktop PC and a next gen console isn't.
Title: Re: Third-kun's Sales Thread of All-Consuming Sales Madness [Enter at your own risk]
Post by: Himu on March 13, 2014, 01:10:54 PM
Okay, distinguished mentally-challenged fellow mode off. But seriously, it is simple:

Because some of us like Japanese games. You act like the consoles have no use when they are going to be getting FFXV and KHIII. When those are on steam, THEN I'll consider going PC only.
Title: Re: Third-kun's Sales Thread of All-Consuming Sales Madness [Enter at your own risk]
Post by: Human Snorenado on March 13, 2014, 01:26:13 PM
If you like Japanese gaming, you should probably focus on the platform most Japanese developers are: mobile

:jawalrus
Title: Re: Third-kun's Sales Thread of All-Consuming Sales Madness [Enter at your own risk]
Post by: Himu on March 13, 2014, 01:34:14 PM
Most Japanese are on mobile, but the bulk of Japanese games aren't ON mobile. And if they are they're certainly not being localized aside from a few. Until that trend changes I'll stick to having a console. You even said the other week that ps3 has a better lineup than ps4. Why? Japanese games. Japanese games are the only thing keeping consoles relevant and I doubt games like Persona are heading to mobile any time soon.
Title: Re: Third-kun's Sales Thread of All-Consuming Sales Madness [Enter at your own risk]
Post by: Rahxephon91 on March 13, 2014, 03:04:37 PM
Maybe people just like playing games on consoles. I know what a crazy idea..
Title: Re: Third-kun's Sales Thread of All-Consuming Sales Madness [Enter at your own risk]
Post by: cool breeze on March 13, 2014, 03:27:48 PM
Quote from: headwalk on March 13, 2014, 10:47:03 AM
Quote from: tiesto on March 13, 2014, 12:03:02 AM
Can't take a desktop around to DJ, hence why my last purchase was a laptop and not a desktop. If I do get another PC I'd probably get a desktop, they are just more comfortable to use, but I can't complain about the performance of mine even now.

it's weird how a desktop PC and a laptop is a redundancy to a lot people, but a desktop PC and a next gen console isn't.

you have to consider that people keep devices in different rooms.  it's why I'm hoping the steambox stuff is somewhat successful to bring about a new wave of small form factor PCs (that are actually small).  even the streaming steambox is a way around it.
Title: Re: Third-kun's Sales Thread of All-Consuming Sales Madness [Enter at your own risk]
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on March 13, 2014, 06:21:11 PM
Wii U did 82k
Donkey Kong 130k
Bravely Default 200k (wow thats pretty amazing for a jrpg new ip no?)
Title: Re: Third-kun's Sales Thread of All-Consuming Sales Madness [Enter at your own risk]
Post by: tiesto on March 13, 2014, 06:32:24 PM
Quote from: headwalk on March 13, 2014, 10:47:03 AM
Quote from: tiesto on March 13, 2014, 12:03:02 AM
Can't take a desktop around to DJ, hence why my last purchase was a laptop and not a desktop. If I do get another PC I'd probably get a desktop, they are just more comfortable to use, but I can't complain about the performance of mine even now.

it's weird how a desktop PC and a laptop is a redundancy to a lot people, but a desktop PC and a next gen console isn't.

I don't like gaming on PC. I work in front of a computer for 9-10 hours straight and the last thing I want to do is sit in front of one while at home. And what I do on my PC generally involves DJing, programming, work-related stuff (and browsing the internet of couse). Would much rather chill on the couch in front of my big-screen TV when I play games. Not to mention the majority of what I'm into isn't on PC (unless you count emulation), and the benefits of playing a multiplat on PC (improved graphics) is lost on me.

So yeah spending $300-400 to get a console that will last 6+ yeas is better than buying a new desktop/laptop combo every 3-4 years.
Title: Re: Third-kun's Sales Thread of All-Consuming Sales Madness [Enter at your own risk]
Post by: Steve Contra on March 13, 2014, 06:36:49 PM
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOORING

1. Call of Duty: Ghosts (360, PS3, Xbox One, PS4, Wii U, PC)
2. The Lego Movie Videogame (360, PS3, 3DS, Wii U, Xbox One, PS4, Vita)
3. NBA 2K14 (360, PS4, PS3, Xbox One, PC)
4. Thief (PS4, Xbox One, 360, PS3)
5. Grand Theft Auto V (360, PS3)
6. Battlefield 4 PS4, Xbox One, 360, PS3, PC)
7. Assassin’s Creed IV: Black Flag (360, PS4, PS3, Xbox One, Wii U, PC)
8. Lightning Returns: Final Fantasy XIII (PS3, 360)
9. Minecraft (360)
10. Bravely Default (3DS)

-Bravely Default: Over 200K physical + digital
-Donkey Kong Wii U: 130K physical + digital
-Pokemon X/Y: 130K physical + digital, 3.4M LTD
Title: Re: Third-kun's Sales Thread of All-Consuming Sales Madness [Enter at your own risk]
Post by: tiesto on March 13, 2014, 06:39:05 PM
Holy shit, I didn't think Bravely Default would do that well... and Lightning Returns I thought would've done even worse.
Title: Re: Third-kun's Sales Thread of All-Consuming Sales Madness [Enter at your own risk]
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on March 13, 2014, 06:40:54 PM
Think this really shows how big digital sales are and that declining numbers in npd dont mean everythinhg.

(http://imageshack.com/a/img713/7237/bn0t.gif)
Title: Re: Third-kun's Sales Thread of All-Consuming Sales Madness [Enter at your own risk]
Post by: Steve Contra on March 13, 2014, 06:44:06 PM
Wait how does it show that?
Title: Re: Third-kun's Sales Thread of All-Consuming Sales Madness [Enter at your own risk]
Post by: Pringo on March 13, 2014, 06:44:31 PM
PS4: 256,000 / 0.9 = 284.4K
Xbox One: 256K
Wii U: Nearly 82.5K
Title: Re: Third-kun's Sales Thread of All-Consuming Sales Madness [Enter at your own risk]
Post by: Himu on March 13, 2014, 06:50:55 PM
Quote from: tiesto on March 13, 2014, 06:39:05 PM
Holy shit, I didn't think Bravely Default would do that well... and Lightning Returns I thought would've done even worse.

I'm not surprised considering the hype.
Title: Re: Third-kun's Sales Thread of All-Consuming Sales Madness [Enter at your own risk]
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on March 13, 2014, 06:54:28 PM
is the bell tolling for xbone yet?
Title: Re: Third-kun's Sales Thread of All-Consuming Sales Madness [Enter at your own risk]
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on March 13, 2014, 06:55:09 PM
If MS is only doing 250k a month in the US then ww they cant be doing more then 325/350k :/

PS4 prob doing like 700/900k ww a month.

At best ms is getting outsold 2:1, more likely closer to 3:1.
Title: Re: Third-kun's Sales Thread of All-Consuming Sales Madness [Enter at your own risk]
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on March 13, 2014, 07:05:29 PM
In other news Apple is sitting on millions of unsold iphone 5cs. Mobile fad coming to an end?
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Post by: larrydavid on March 13, 2014, 07:06:31 PM
Bravely Default nearly doubled Ni no Kuni's first month sales holy shit! Nintendo beats Ghibli.
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Post by: cool breeze on March 13, 2014, 07:12:00 PM
so, thief and donkey kong bombed?
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Post by: Takao on March 13, 2014, 07:20:19 PM
Quote from: larrydavid on March 13, 2014, 07:06:31 PM
Bravely Default nearly doubled Ni no Kuni's first month sales holy shit! Nintendo beats Ghibli.

Did Ni no Kuni get TV ads in the states? I honestly can't remember.
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Post by: Takao on March 13, 2014, 07:24:01 PM
Oh man, Castlevania came out in February? Well, it's a good thing Konami already dumped Mercury Steam for that IP ...
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Post by: Himu on March 13, 2014, 07:24:25 PM
Wait until FFX/X-2 HD sales.

And S-E deserved the FF brand to be in bad shape.
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Post by: larrydavid on March 13, 2014, 07:43:27 PM
Quote from: Takao on March 13, 2014, 07:20:19 PM
Quote from: larrydavid on March 13, 2014, 07:06:31 PM
Bravely Default nearly doubled Ni no Kuni's first month sales holy shit! Nintendo beats Ghibli.

Did Ni no Kuni get TV ads in the states? I honestly can't remember.

No clue, I never saw ads for either one. I'm just amazed that there's actually a North American handheld RPG market. Maybe we'll get some of the unlocalized stuff after all.

And yeah, the FF brand is like oof. I think 15 will do well enough though at least.
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Post by: Rahxephon91 on March 13, 2014, 07:56:04 PM
Hopefully the FF brand bounces back because the games are still good and so they don't have to be pushed to the handheld ghetto.
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Post by: Steve Contra on March 13, 2014, 08:05:08 PM
Nope, it's dead.
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Post by: Tasty on March 13, 2014, 08:41:07 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on March 13, 2014, 06:48:02 PM
Great numbers for Bravely Default.  Bet Square are kicking themselves a little for passing that to Nintendo.

I don't think it would have done nearly as well if they hadn't passed it to Nintendo. I'm sure Square makes some kind of bank from its success anyways.
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Post by: Tasty on March 13, 2014, 08:43:17 PM
Quote from: fryinghigh on March 13, 2014, 07:12:00 PM
so, thief and donkey kong bombed?

DK probably did as good as a Wii U game possibly could at this point. Mario only did 215k opening month.
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Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on March 13, 2014, 08:50:44 PM
Xbone sales surprised me.  I guess the internet was bullshitting yet again.

Quote from: Lagerless on March 13, 2014, 07:05:29 PM
In other news Apple is sitting on millions of unsold iphone 5cs. Mobile fad coming to an end?

The 5C was a dumb idea.  I know a lot of Applefags in the US who are deep in debt to keep up with the latest and greatest Apple devices.  They weren't going to settle for some ghetto version of the iPhone.
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Post by: Human Snorenado on March 13, 2014, 08:50:45 PM
Quote from: Tasty Meat on March 13, 2014, 08:43:17 PM
Quote from: fryinghigh on March 13, 2014, 07:12:00 PM
so, thief and donkey kong bombed?

DK probably did as good as a Wii U game possibly could at this point. Mario only did 215k opening month.

ie, it bombed
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Post by: Damian79 on March 13, 2014, 08:52:57 PM
If DK bombed so did BD.  DK did well considering how bad the wii is doing.  Like is 130k good on the Vita, I dunno.
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Post by: Tasty on March 13, 2014, 08:58:55 PM
Cracking the top 10 NPD is a bomba now? Huh.
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Post by: Himu on March 13, 2014, 09:01:10 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on March 13, 2014, 08:05:24 PM

Quote from: Formerly Known As Himuro on March 13, 2014, 07:24:25 PM
Wait until FFX/X-2 HD sales.

And S-E deserved the FF brand to be in bad shape.

X/x-2 should do fine.  Rereleases of loved FF games still do very well.  Which helps frame the problem with the brand, actually.  People still like FF, they just don't like/trust what it has become.  They need to stop fucking around, try to figure out the core of old FF, carefully make a few games that serve that, and then name them Final Fantasy instead of Bravely Default.

Or just take an action RPG spin-off, make an HHD version, rename it FF15, and call it a day.  Either-or.

The thing is, I think they are catering to their demo, or are starting to at least. I hear 14 is the most FF game in a long time. Here's hoping 16 is in the right direction.
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Post by: Himu on March 13, 2014, 09:02:16 PM
Quote from: Tasty Meat on March 13, 2014, 08:58:55 PM
Cracking the top 10 NPD is a bomba now? Huh.

Cracking the top 10 of NPD doesn't mean shit anymore.
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Post by: cool breeze on March 13, 2014, 09:03:17 PM
Quote from: Tasty Meat on March 13, 2014, 08:43:17 PM
Quote from: fryinghigh on March 13, 2014, 07:12:00 PM
so, thief and donkey kong bombed?

DK probably did as good as a Wii U game possibly could at this point. Mario only did 215k opening month.

yeah, I'm just curious if putting retro on a safe and known product was worth it.  I recall people defending the choice by saying how much better donkey kong returns sold compared to the metroid games.  but I wouldn't be surprised if the metroid prime games sold better than donkey kong u.


as for thief, well there were those layoffs and if it bombed I can't imagine SE trying to reboot it again.  plus SE seems to have crazy expectations for its games (there was that tomb raider thing last year).
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Post by: Himu on March 13, 2014, 09:04:56 PM
Hopefully Retro is now working on a first person Zelda.
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Post by: Eel O'Brian on March 13, 2014, 09:08:54 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on March 13, 2014, 07:14:04 PM

Quote from: Lagerless on March 13, 2014, 07:05:29 PM
In other news Apple is sitting on millions of unsold iphone 5cs. Mobile fad coming to an end?

Since the 5S, iPad, and numerous Android devices are doing just fine, I'd say no, the 5C was just a misstep and mobile on the whole is fine.  Especially on the software revenue end of things.

You're free to interpret it through your idiot filter as you like, though.

Its probably coming pretty close to hitting a sales plateau, though, at least for tablets. I've noticed Best Buy and other retailers offering $50 off iPad Airs and minis every other week for the past few months, and you never used to see that this soon after release on Apple stuff.
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Post by: Huff on March 13, 2014, 09:09:40 PM
looks like nintendo has done a decent job building a market for handheld jrpgs.

march should be interesting. sony and ms should have a good month
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Post by: Tasty on March 13, 2014, 09:17:15 PM
Quote from: Formerly Known As Himuro on March 13, 2014, 09:04:56 PM
Hopefully Retro is now working on a first person Zelda.

Eww.

They should either do something new (finally), or DKCR3.
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Post by: Tasty on March 13, 2014, 09:17:49 PM
Quote from: Formerly Known As Himuro on March 13, 2014, 09:02:16 PM
Quote from: Tasty Meat on March 13, 2014, 08:58:55 PM
Cracking the top 10 NPD is a bomba now? Huh.

Cracking the top 10 of NPD doesn't mean shit anymore.

I still need more convincing BD is bomba.
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Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on March 13, 2014, 09:19:23 PM
Quote from: Rahxephon91 on March 13, 2014, 07:56:04 PM
Hopefully the FF brand bounces back because the games are still good and so they don't have to be pushed to the handheld ghetto.

Handheld ghetto has Bravely Default

3DS is gettin' gentrified

:jawalrus
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Post by: Himu on March 13, 2014, 09:21:18 PM
Quote from: Tasty Meat on March 13, 2014, 09:17:49 PM
Quote from: Formerly Known As Himuro on March 13, 2014, 09:02:16 PM
Quote from: Tasty Meat on March 13, 2014, 08:58:55 PM
Cracking the top 10 NPD is a bomba now? Huh.

Cracking the top 10 of NPD doesn't mean shit anymore.

I still need more convincing BD is bomba.

BD is not a bomba. It sold what most popular jrpgs usually sell the first month. However, cracking the top 10 doesn't mean you sold WELL. Software sales are down. Recently iirc, a game that sold 50k made it to the top 10, Andrex.
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Post by: Rahxephon91 on March 13, 2014, 09:22:07 PM
Quote from: larrydavid on March 13, 2014, 07:06:31 PM
Bravely Default nearly doubled Ni no Kuni's first month sales holy shit! Nintendo beats Ghibli.
You mean hacky level 5 masquerading as Ghibli.

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Post by: Tasty on March 13, 2014, 09:23:18 PM
Quote from: Formerly Known As Himuro on March 13, 2014, 09:21:18 PM
Quote from: Tasty Meat on March 13, 2014, 09:17:49 PM
Quote from: Formerly Known As Himuro on March 13, 2014, 09:02:16 PM
Quote from: Tasty Meat on March 13, 2014, 08:58:55 PM
Cracking the top 10 NPD is a bomba now? Huh.

Cracking the top 10 of NPD doesn't mean shit anymore.

I still need more convincing BD is bomba.

BD is not a bomba. It sold what jrpgs usually sell the first month. However, cracking the top 10 doesn't mean you sold WELL. Software sales are down. Recently iirc, a game that sold 50k made it to the top 10, Andrex.

Ah, I don't really keep up with NPDs anymore. What game was that?



Seems like February is the time to release Japanesey RPGesey games on 3DS. Last year I (and I presume most others) picked up FE because it was a solid handheld title with nothing surrounding it. I think timing has a ton to do with BD's success.
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Post by: Himu on March 13, 2014, 09:24:44 PM
Quote from: Tasty Meat on March 13, 2014, 09:23:18 PM
Quote from: Formerly Known As Himuro on March 13, 2014, 09:21:18 PM
Quote from: Tasty Meat on March 13, 2014, 09:17:49 PM
Quote from: Formerly Known As Himuro on March 13, 2014, 09:02:16 PM
Quote from: Tasty Meat on March 13, 2014, 08:58:55 PM
Cracking the top 10 NPD is a bomba now? Huh.

Cracking the top 10 of NPD doesn't mean shit anymore.

I still need more convincing BD is bomba.

BD is not a bomba. It sold what jrpgs usually sell the first month. However, cracking the top 10 doesn't mean you sold WELL. Software sales are down. Recently iirc, a game that sold 50k made it to the top 10, Andrex.

Ah, I don't really keep up with NPDs anymore. What game was that?



Seems like February is the time to release Japanesey RPGesey games on 3DS. Last year I (and I presume most others) picked up FE because it was a solid handheld title with nothing surrounding it. I think timing has a ton to do with BD's success.

SMT4 did well for itself and it came out in summer. The time period doesn't matter. The jrpg fanbase just wants quality jrpgs; we are starved.
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Post by: cool breeze on March 13, 2014, 09:24:55 PM
Quote from: Tasty Meat on March 13, 2014, 09:17:15 PM
Quote from: Formerly Known As Himuro on March 13, 2014, 09:04:56 PM
Hopefully Retro is now working on a first person Zelda.

Eww.

They should either do something new (finally), or DKCR3.

3D Kirby platformer

or Kirby's Air Ride 2: This time it takes 120 hours to get good
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Post by: Tasty on March 13, 2014, 09:25:51 PM
Quote from: Formerly Known As Himuro on March 13, 2014, 09:24:44 PM

SMT4 did well for itself and it came out in summer. The time period doesn't matter. The jrpg fanbase just wants quality jrpgs; we are starved.

What did SMT4 do?
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Post by: Himu on March 13, 2014, 09:27:55 PM
Quote from: Tasty Meat on March 13, 2014, 09:17:15 PM
Quote from: Formerly Known As Himuro on March 13, 2014, 09:04:56 PM
Hopefully Retro is now working on a first person Zelda.

Eww.

They should either do something new (finally), or DKCR3.

Retro won't do anything new because Wii U is losing money and Nintendo needs safe - yet new - bets that will pay off. Not really sell gangbusters - because Wii U won't - but something to cause some interest. First person Zelda by Retro would be a great place to start.
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Post by: Himu on March 13, 2014, 09:28:58 PM
check new post
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Post by: Himu on March 13, 2014, 09:33:28 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on March 13, 2014, 09:26:44 PM
I can't think of every fairly successful new JRPG IP off the top of my head, but I'm pretty sure Bravely Default is the best opening month NPD for a new IP in that genre since Kingdom Hearts 1.

Check these games' numbers for me:

Infinite Undiscovery
White Knight Chronicles
Baten Kaitos
Xenoblade
Resonance of Fate
The Last Remnant
The World Ends With You
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Post by: Himu on March 13, 2014, 09:34:53 PM
no, i want a vanilla shake

don't spit in it
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Post by: Tasty on March 13, 2014, 09:38:56 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on March 13, 2014, 09:30:22 PM
I doubt they'll be doing another DKCR again for a while after these sales.  Not their fault, mind you, but this was a fledgling series, so getting shit sales on the second installment is probably enough for Nintendo to write it off for a while.  I also can't see them commissioning another Metroid game, though.  Who knows where they go from here?  That question applies to Nintendo about as well as poor ol' Retro.

I could see them doing F-Zero. The series kind of demands high production values after GX and Retro is just about the only dev I imagine up to the task.

Although it'd be funny to see Retro's take on Star Fox, considering that's where Rare went after DK too.
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Post by: Himu on March 13, 2014, 09:44:27 PM
:lol nintendo is never making another F-zero again!

Let's make an avatar bet.
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Post by: Damian79 on March 13, 2014, 09:46:15 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on March 13, 2014, 09:19:20 PM
That's kind of a silly thing to say.  A relatively low-budget, handheld, new JRPG IP selling 200k is in no sales terms the same thing as a mid-budget, console, established IP that's following a multi-million seller selling 130k.  I mean, even cutting the fluff, there's a big difference sales-wise between 200k+ and 130k.  I can conjure up a hundred scenarios where a game of BD's description is a success while a game of DKR2's description is a bomb.  That one of those scenarios happens to be reality only sweetens the pot.

Eh, DKCR was on the wii and 3ds.  I dotn think that DKCR was ever a system seller either.  So doing 130k out of like 5 million in the first month in the US is the same as doing 5 mill LTD across like 100 million worldwide.   200k on the 3ds which is at what 40 million?  Seems neither a success or failure.
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Post by: Himu on March 13, 2014, 09:46:21 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on March 13, 2014, 09:44:06 PM
i don't have time to search for release dates and then look up each of their opening months, so here's what you get:

infinite undiscovery LTD: ~150k
white knight chronicles first month: ~90k
baten kaitos first month: ~20k
xenoblade first month: i don't have exact data on this, but i know it was under 100k first month and probably closer to 50k.
resonance of fate first month: ~25k
the last remnant LTD: ~150k
TWEWY LTD: ~200k

Those are pretty good. I'm curious about Blue Dragon and Lost Odyssey but Bravely has outsold the most common jrpg Ltd (200k) in its first month. I imagine it having an Ltd of 300-400k. Which is great for a jrpg.
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Post by: tiesto on March 13, 2014, 09:46:50 PM
Quote from: Tasty Meat on March 13, 2014, 09:23:18 PM
Quote from: Formerly Known As Himuro on March 13, 2014, 09:21:18 PM
Quote from: Tasty Meat on March 13, 2014, 09:17:49 PM
Quote from: Formerly Known As Himuro on March 13, 2014, 09:02:16 PM
Quote from: Tasty Meat on March 13, 2014, 08:58:55 PM
Cracking the top 10 NPD is a bomba now? Huh.

Cracking the top 10 of NPD doesn't mean shit anymore.

I still need more convincing BD is bomba.

BD is not a bomba. It sold what jrpgs usually sell the first month. However, cracking the top 10 doesn't mean you sold WELL. Software sales are down. Recently iirc, a game that sold 50k made it to the top 10, Andrex.

Ah, I don't really keep up with NPDs anymore. What game was that?



Seems like February is the time to release Japanesey RPGesey games on 3DS. Last year I (and I presume most others) picked up FE because it was a solid handheld title with nothing surrounding it. I think timing has a ton to do with BD's success.

Makes sense, long ass single player RPGs are good for the dead of winter, and this year's winter has been particularly bad.
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Post by: The Sceneman on March 13, 2014, 09:50:11 PM
Final Fantasy games are better than ever, its not Square's fault that FF "spergtards" (or whatever nomenclature this board is obsessed with) are stubborn manbabies with no function for progressive thought.

REMAKE FFVII SQUARE WAHHHH WAHHH I NEED MY DIAPER CHANGED
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Post by: Himu on March 13, 2014, 09:51:40 PM
Quote from: The Sceneman on March 13, 2014, 09:50:11 PM
Final Fantasy games are better than ever, its not Square's fault that FF "spergtards" (or whatever nomenclature this board is obsessed with) are stubborn manbabies with no function for progressive thought.

REMAKE FFVII SQUARE WAHHHH WAHHH I NEED MY DIAPER CHANGED

:what
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Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on March 13, 2014, 09:54:25 PM
My :hans1 guess: based off of the success of Wind Waker HD, Retro will be used for HD remakes of Gamecube and Wii games.  They will also be available on hand when Nintendo wants to get a HD game out in time.
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Post by: The Sceneman on March 13, 2014, 09:55:23 PM
those RoF and BK figures  :tocry
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Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on March 13, 2014, 09:57:54 PM
if i dont like uguu  save the princess rpgs would i like bravely default
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Post by: The Sceneman on March 13, 2014, 09:58:40 PM
Yeah, what sells is what sells I guess :tocry
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Post by: Takao on March 13, 2014, 09:58:59 PM
Quote from: The Sceneman on March 13, 2014, 09:50:11 PM
Final Fantasy games are better than ever, its not Square's fault that FF "spergtards" (or whatever nomenclature this board is obsessed with) are stubborn manbabies with no function for progressive thought.

REMAKE FFVII SQUARE WAHHHH WAHHH I NEED MY DIAPER CHANGED

(http://i.minus.com/iwelRQUb3RbcN.gif)

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Post by: Rahxephon91 on March 13, 2014, 10:00:48 PM
Quote from: The Sceneman on March 13, 2014, 09:55:23 PM
those RoF and BK figures  :tocry
Yep it's a shame. RoF was a pretty good game. One of the best jrpgs recently. Such a shitty fandom. For being so "starved" they sure do ignore pretty much every console game.

Quote from: MyNameIsMethodis on March 13, 2014, 09:57:54 PM
if i dont like uguu  save the princess rpgs would i like bravely default
Nope, don't believe the hype. Besides while she's not uguu cute, the princess character in the game is the most annoying character in the game.
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Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on March 13, 2014, 10:01:33 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on March 13, 2014, 09:58:26 PM
Quote from: MyNameIsMethodis on March 13, 2014, 09:57:54 PM
if i dont like uguu  save the princess rpgs would i like bravely default

probably not.  it's not a sony (tm).

i played 360 the most last gen :huh

i still need to play inazuma elenven that ib ought a while ago
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Post by: Damian79 on March 13, 2014, 10:02:27 PM
Hmm.  I guess we are looking at this differently.  I mean to me SSBM in the GCN in Japan was phenomenal sales wise.  It almost reached parity with the console itself there at its peak.  NoA is please with the sales it seems:
Quote
Wii U software sales were driven by the Feb. 21 launch of Donkey Kong Country: Tropical Freeze, which sold more than 130,000 combined physical and digital units in its first eight days on the market. This helped sales of Wii U hardware increase by nearly 25 percent over the same month last year.

Profit wise however, yes you are right though.
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Post by: The Sceneman on March 13, 2014, 10:03:19 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on March 13, 2014, 10:01:41 PM
like, real talk, stubborn fanbases can be a pain in the ass, but i can't say square wouldn't have been more successful building *new* brands with the ideas they've used in the last bunch of FF games while taking a slightly more conservative approach for named/numbered sequels.  not saying they should remake FF7 or make another sequel to it, but maybe sit down and figure out why the general public loved ff7-10 and serve that group with your numbered FF games.  square could have easily made a successful new IP with the ideas they put into FF13's games.

Completely agree
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Post by: Himu on March 13, 2014, 10:03:28 PM
Quote from: Rahxephon91 on March 13, 2014, 10:00:48 PM
Quote from: The Sceneman on March 13, 2014, 09:55:23 PM
those RoF and BK figures  :tocry
Yep it's a shame. RoF was a pretty good game. One of the best jrpgs recently. Such a shitty fandom. For being so "starved" they sure do ignore pretty much every console game.

Quote from: MyNameIsMethodis on March 13, 2014, 09:57:54 PM
if i dont like uguu  save the princess rpgs would i like bravely default
Nope, don't believe the hype. Besides while she's not uguu cute, the princess character in the game is the most annoying character in the game.

RoF came out like 5 years ago and jrpgs were far more common. Why are you comparing a game made in 2009 (?) to the market in 2014? Do you realize how dumb that is?
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Post by: Himu on March 13, 2014, 10:05:48 PM
Seriously your hateathon for handheld is hilarious.
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Post by: The Sceneman on March 13, 2014, 10:06:44 PM
Quote from: Rahxephon91 on March 13, 2014, 10:00:48 PM
Quote from: The Sceneman on March 13, 2014, 09:55:23 PM
those RoF and BK figures  :tocry
Yep it's a shame. RoF was a pretty good game. One of the best jrpgs recently. Such a shitty fandom. For being so "starved" they sure do ignore pretty much every console game.

Quote from: MyNameIsMethodis on March 13, 2014, 09:57:54 PM
if i dont like uguu  save the princess rpgs would i like bravely default
Nope, don't believe the hype. Besides while she's not uguu cute, the princess character in the game is the most annoying character in the game.

I think the problem is the majority of "JRPG" fandom like FF and thats it. The amount of jrpg fans left has to be miniscule in reality, it probably just the messageboard echo chamber y'know
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Post by: tiesto on March 13, 2014, 10:08:27 PM
Quote from: MyNameIsMethodis on March 13, 2014, 09:57:54 PM
if i dont like uguu  save the princess rpgs would i like bravely default

If you quit after chapter 4 and also turn voices off you will.
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Post by: tiesto on March 13, 2014, 10:09:53 PM
Quote from: The Sceneman on March 13, 2014, 10:06:44 PM
Quote from: Rahxephon91 on March 13, 2014, 10:00:48 PM
Quote from: The Sceneman on March 13, 2014, 09:55:23 PM
those RoF and BK figures  :tocry
Yep it's a shame. RoF was a pretty good game. One of the best jrpgs recently. Such a shitty fandom. For being so "starved" they sure do ignore pretty much every console game.

Quote from: MyNameIsMethodis on March 13, 2014, 09:57:54 PM
if i dont like uguu  save the princess rpgs would i like bravely default
Nope, don't believe the hype. Besides while she's not uguu cute, the princess character in the game is the most annoying character in the game.

I think the problem is the majority of "JRPG" fandom like FF and thats it. The amount of jrpg fans left has to be miniscule in reality, it probably just the messageboard echo chamber y'know

And the majority of RPG haters only hate because they don't know anything outside of FF.
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Post by: Himu on March 13, 2014, 10:10:03 PM
Jrpg fans have always been small. FF does not a jrpg fan make. You can be an FF fan but that doesn't mean you play other jrpgs. We were just talking about how most successful jrpgs in the US sell around 200k or more. The genre has limited appeal and is incredibly niche and always has been. The only jrpgs cracking huge numbers are FF, KH, and Pokemon.
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Post by: Rahxephon91 on March 13, 2014, 10:11:29 PM
You mean a market that had Ni No Kuni, Tales of Xilla, Tales of Graces F, The Last Story, Xenoblade, Final Fantasy XIII-2, Dragon's Crown, All that Gust stuff, Final Fantasy XIV, Dark Souls, KH 1.5 and so on over the past 3 years.

A market that this year well get Tales of Shit(I mean Symphonia) HD, Xilla 2, A new Gust game , FFXHD, Lightning Returns, Persona 5(in Japan), Dark Souls 2 and so on.

If you weren't starved back then, how could you be starved now?

Oh it wouldn't be because like I said, jrpg fans just like to complain and ignore these games.
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Post by: Himu on March 13, 2014, 10:12:25 PM
How many of those are actually good games, Rah? Tales of Vesperia is widely regarded as the best traditional jrpg of the last console Gen. A tales game. That should tell you everything.
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Post by: The Sceneman on March 13, 2014, 10:13:22 PM
All of them?
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Post by: Himu on March 13, 2014, 10:15:46 PM
Uh huh.

Wait, Rah thinks jrpg fans ignored stuff like Dark Souls and KH1.5?
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Post by: Damian79 on March 13, 2014, 10:16:34 PM
Quote from: Rahxephon91 on March 13, 2014, 10:11:29 PM
You mean a market that had Ni No Kuni, Tales of Xilla, Tales of Graces F, The Last Story, Xenoblade, Final Fantasy XIII-2, Dragon's Crown, All that Gust stuff, Final Fantasy XIV, Dark Souls, KH 1.5 and so on over the past 3 years.

A market that this year well get Tales of Shit(I mean Symphonia) HD, Xilla 2, A new Gust game , FFXHD, Lightning Returns, Persona 5(in Japan), Dark Souls 2 and so on.

If you weren't starved back then, how could you be starved now?

Oh it wouldn't be because like I said, jrpg fans just like to complain and ignore these games.

I only liked Last Story Xenoblade and will probably like Dark Soul 2 out of that list.
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Post by: Rahxephon91 on March 13, 2014, 10:16:39 PM
There's a reason I didn't list NIS games, because I don't care for them.

People like the GUST jrpgs so I'll just leave it at that.

People like Tales of Symphionia. I don't, but that's me.

People love Souls.

So yes basically every game I listed is arguably good. If you played them you'd know that.

But you'd rather complain and "boycott" Lightning Returns then actually play it and not be "starved".
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Post by: Himu on March 13, 2014, 10:18:18 PM
Almost all the jrpgs I've bought in recent years have been on handheld. Almost all the console jrpgs now are uguu shit. Even FF is uguu shit and I WANT LR.
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Post by: Himu on March 13, 2014, 10:21:29 PM
I'm not boycotting LR at all. :lol I'm waiting for a price drop. :lol
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Post by: Himu on March 13, 2014, 10:26:03 PM
jrpgs I bought in the last year: EO4, Fire Emblem 3ds, MH3U, SMT4, Bravely Deault.

No time for uguu shit.

I will play an Atelier game when I'm dead.

And yes, Demi is the best jrpg fan ever.
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Post by: thisismyusername on March 13, 2014, 10:26:46 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on March 13, 2014, 10:21:56 PM
the issue seems to be that the audience that buys JRPGs isn't a homogenous unit.  i would say the types of people buying stuff like bravely default, smt4, and etrian odyssey are a very, very different audience from the people buying disgaea, atelier lolita, and curry god, and all of them are very different from the people buying FF games.  i look at like, rahx, magoose, himu, myself, scene, and tiesto, and in spite of all of us ostensibly being JRPG fans, i don't think you could get us to agree on any of them.

real talk: the truest jrpg fan around here is demi, because he plays it all and keeps his bitching to a minimum.  demi :bow2

I'd play SMT4 if it came to the Vita or Nintendo finally got their heads out of their asses and made a unified account system. :tocry I'd even try EO.

I play between the two:

FF1-12 (skipping 11 and haven't completed 9, my secret shame)
Disgaea 1-3 (waiting on 4's portable port and the same for D2)
SMT/Personas
Demon/Dark Souls/2/Kings Field
Need to get into Xenoblade
Need to play Front Missions

My major problem with the genre now a days is the amount of battles needed to get decent experience for your characters/random battles. Some JRPGs fix this by giving higher exp rates for the sake of lesser battles (good), some dumb down the battles but make the grind worse (terrible). That and I don't really have the time for most of them anymore. I think I'd rather shootbang than grind after work.  :'(
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Post by: Damian79 on March 13, 2014, 10:27:25 PM
Quote from: Formerly Known As Himuro on March 13, 2014, 10:18:18 PM
Almost all the jrpgs I've bought in recent years have been on handheld. Almost all the console jrpgs now are uguu shit. Even FF is uguu shit and I WANT LR.

TBH i think they think that is what sells.  I mean look at the uguu shit that is conception 2.  Why cant we have mature rpg games that has children at some point which grow up and end the game ala Phantasy Star(i think thats the game)?.
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Post by: Himu on March 13, 2014, 10:28:00 PM
Disgaea :yuck
Nippon Ichi :kobeyuck
Gust :kobeyuck
Tales (for the most part) :beli
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Post by: Rahxephon91 on March 13, 2014, 10:28:41 PM
I mentioned plenty of jrpgs that are'nt uggu shit. (Not sure how FF is uguu shit)

Then you say almost all console jrpgs are uguu shit, proving that you haven't played them. You're the one choosing to be "starved" here not me.


Quote from: Formerly Known As Himuro on March 13, 2014, 10:21:29 PM
I'm not boycotting LR at all. :lol I'm waiting for a price drop. :lol
Oh my mistake, you wanted to send a message by not buying it at full price or used. Yeah I'm sure that will mean something.

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How many of those are actually good games, Rah? Tales of Vesperia is widely regarded as the best traditional jrpg of the last console Gen. A tales game. That should tell you everything.
It tells me they made a good Tales game. Oh no.

What is it supposed to tell me? that FF has fallen because it's not seen as the best one? The people who argue about this crap hardly ever put FF as the top JRPG anyway so why would that matter.

Quote from: Formerly Known As Himuro on March 13, 2014, 10:05:48 PM
Seriously your hateathon for handheld is hilarious.
Nope, just Nintendo one's because they are awful.

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Post by: thisismyusername on March 13, 2014, 10:29:19 PM
Quote from: Formerly Known As Himuro on March 13, 2014, 10:28:00 PM
Disgaea :yuck

:yeshrug I like the grind treadmill, I come for Diablo and lootwhore RPGs like that!

(Disgaea 1's cast is still the best)

And yes I am contradicting myself there.  Disgaea's "grind" is a part of the time and raising characters in power-leveling and reincarnation/systems that support that grind. JRPG's random battles/grind in general for most games that don't make the grind a system of improvement with power-leveling is my major problem with JRPGs.
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Post by: Damian79 on March 13, 2014, 10:30:30 PM
Um you completed FF:LR right?  You have seen the ending right?  May aswell have been a Naruto episode.
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Post by: Himu on March 13, 2014, 10:33:02 PM
Jesus Rah. Why are you so angry about fucking video games? :lol

FF13LR is uguu as fuck dude.

Have you seen that intro, where it has Sara wearing goth loli gear and she has this evil laugh and shit as magic explodes and the game takes itself seriously while all of this is happening? :lol

As for sending a message. Yeah, I did. :yeshrug It sold 150k in its first month, mission accomplished. Now I'll buy it used when it hits 30 dollah.
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Post by: Himu on March 13, 2014, 10:34:11 PM
Hahahaha and FF13 has all this terminology and shit and it's like :what And then the games ending :rofl :heh :sabu

Uguu as HELLLLL
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Post by: tiesto on March 13, 2014, 10:35:34 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on March 13, 2014, 10:21:56 PM
the issue seems to be that the audience that buys JRPGs isn't a homogenous unit.  i would say the types of people buying stuff like bravely default, smt4, and etrian odyssey are a very, very different audience from the people buying disgaea, atelier lolita, and curry god, and all of them are very different from the people buying FF games.  i look at like, rahx, magoose, himu, myself, scene, and tiesto, and in spite of all of us ostensibly being JRPG fans, i don't think you could get us to agree on any of them.

real talk: the truest jrpg fan around here is demi, because he plays it all and keeps his bitching to a minimum.  demi :bow2

I actually own all of the games mentioned above :P Yes, even the Curry God game... but that is because I love Indian food even more than I do the :uguu
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Post by: Tasty on March 13, 2014, 10:35:58 PM
Quote from: Formerly Known As Himuro on March 13, 2014, 10:26:03 PM
jrpgs I bought in the last year: MH3U

(http://i.imgur.com/5QwOkQe.png)
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Post by: demi on March 13, 2014, 10:37:38 PM
I think its great that BD and LR charted. Even if they werent mega blockbusters.
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Post by: Rahxephon91 on March 13, 2014, 10:39:06 PM
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Jesus Rah. Why are you so angry about fucking video games? :lol
I'm not sure how this is me bing angry. I've been laughing at how you've just been proving everything I said.


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Have you seen that intro, where it has Sara wearing goth loli gear and she has this evil laugh and shit as magic explodes and the game takes itself seriously while all of this is happening? :lol
You mean this scene is in a series where a dude has a space alien for a mother and is mad because people didn't like her and wants to summon a giant space rock to kill everybody and a flower girl uses the Earth's life force to stop it?

Or the series with evil time watches and lapses of orphanage memories.

Or the one where a dead city has it's citizens keep dreaming and then elements of thier dreams come to life.

or the series with moon people.

You're supposed to take all these seriously.

FF is dumb. It's always been dumb. That doesn't make it uguu. It's not a idea factory game.

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Post by: larrydavid on March 13, 2014, 10:39:52 PM
It's true, never really ever thought there was a general RPG fanbase until I started noticing certain names repeat in different threads, it's pretty fractured when you think about it. I do think there are people who become fans of companies though. Like a whole bunch of people who would basically buy anything Squaresoft put out, which was a real wide variety of stuff if you look back, but nothing else (this was me). I only ever needed to look at RPGs from Square, Atlus and Nintendo (with a healthy respect for Sega RPGs that I didn't have the systems for) until the big collapse last gen forced me out of my comfort zone. Any "RPG fanbase" that exists nowadays probably wouldn't be able to agree on much.

Also can someone explain why Etrian Odyssey isn't uguu cuz I would actually play those games if it wasn't for the questionable art.
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Post by: demi on March 13, 2014, 10:40:04 PM
Quote from: MyNameIsMethodis on March 13, 2014, 09:57:54 PM
if i dont like uguu  save the princess rpgs would i like bravely default

Yes. Lots of thick white women to look at.
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Post by: Himu on March 13, 2014, 10:41:23 PM
To be fair, most FF's have text and no voice acting. It's the voice acting and direction that makes 13 series uguu. The ones pre-X leave a lot more to the imagination.
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Post by: Himu on March 13, 2014, 10:44:38 PM
Quote from: larrydavid on March 13, 2014, 10:39:52 PM
It's true, never really ever thought there was a general RPG fanbase until I started noticing certain names repeat in different threads, it's pretty fractured when you think about it. I do think there are people who become fans of companies though. Like a whole bunch of people who would basically buy anything Squaresoft put out, which was a real wide variety of stuff if you look back, but nothing else (this was me). I only ever needed to look at RPGs from Square, Atlus and Nintendo (with a healthy respect for Sega RPGs that I didn't have the systems for) until the big collapse last gen forced me out of my comfort zone. Any "RPG fanbase" that exists nowadays probably wouldn't be able to agree on much.

Also can someone explain why Etrian Odyssey isn't uguu cuz I would actually play those games if it wasn't for the questionable art.

Being cute isn't uguu in itself. I just think the art in those games are cute. Plus, you don't actually SEE the characters and you certainly don't interact with them. It's entirely first person and has a gameplay focus, which is totally different than say, a Gust game, where it makes the story the central focal point.
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Post by: Trent Dole on March 13, 2014, 10:46:16 PM
Quote from: Creepy Old Guy on March 13, 2014, 01:26:13 PM
If you like Japanese gaming, you should probably focus on the platform most Japanese developers are: mobile

:jawalrus
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Yeah I'ma get me a 3DS and Vita someday maybe. :tocry
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Post by: Himu on March 13, 2014, 10:48:22 PM
Quote from: Rahxephon91 on March 13, 2014, 10:39:06 PM
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Jesus Rah. Why are you so angry about fucking video games? :lol
I'm not sure how this is me bing angry. I've been laughing at how you've just been proving everything I said.

Really? You seem pretty mad to me that not everyone likes or plays the same games you do. :umad
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Post by: Takao on March 13, 2014, 10:50:53 PM
neogaf ps4 stans are unbearable acting as though infamous and mgs prologue cancel out titanfall
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Post by: Rahxephon91 on March 13, 2014, 10:52:14 PM
Quote from: Formerly Known As Himuro on March 13, 2014, 10:48:22 PM
Quote from: Rahxephon91 on March 13, 2014, 10:39:06 PM
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Jesus Rah. Why are you so angry about fucking video games? :lol
I'm not sure how this is me bing angry. I've been laughing at how you've just been proving everything I said.

Really? You seem pretty mad to me that not everyone likes or plays the same games you do. :umad
Well I guess this ignorance is what also allowed you to miss the fact that there were plenty of jrpgs out there and you didn't have to be starved.
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Post by: Himu on March 13, 2014, 10:56:29 PM
It isn't ignorance. I know exactly what's out there. I'm so sorry not everyone wants to spend 50 dollars on a fucking Vanillaware beat em up (and I love beat em ups), Gust games, Tales games that AREN'T as good as Vesperia, and more FF13 drek. I bought Dark Souls, I'm getting Dark Souls 2 albeit on pc. This isn't about ignorance. This is about me have far more select taste you. I don't buy everything; I never have bought everything. I buy what I like and I've supported every single bit of the jrpgs that hit that I do like. I even bought Dragon Quest Vi and Radiant Historia when my ds broke and I was ds-less! You can check your mollycoddling tone at the door.
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Post by: Huff on March 13, 2014, 10:57:43 PM
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Sony also used it's own metrics in a meeting with EA last week and showed them what they would have sold on the ps3 and ps4. The money EA took from MS doesn't even begin to cover it. The EA guys went over the math and agreed. EA is in full "We're so fucking sorry, Sony" mode currently."

lol mort
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Post by: larrydavid on March 13, 2014, 11:01:08 PM
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Being cute isn't uguu in itself. I just think the art in those games are cute. Plus, you don't actually SEE the characters and you certainly don't interact with them. It's entirely first person and has a gameplay focus, which is totally different than say, a Gust game, where it makes the story the central focal point.

I know, I wanna hear some Koshiro and make some maps but that dancer ...

Really glad Bravely Default is censored though! I'm still worried about the Tales shit but I'm gonna try hard to tune it out.

NPD thread says that BD had abnormally high digital sales that seems kinda weird.
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Post by: Himu on March 13, 2014, 11:02:32 PM
Each class has four dancer portraits. That's not the only dancer.

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Post by: demi on March 13, 2014, 11:03:18 PM
Nobody uses Dancer in EO, anyway. Just buy it, they rock.

re: Censorship in BD, also a non-issue.

You aren't playing these games outside, anyway. It's just numbers and stats and grids.
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Post by: AdmiralViscen on March 13, 2014, 11:15:03 PM
So do we get English DQ7 now
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Post by: Himu on March 13, 2014, 11:21:09 PM
Hahahaha
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Post by: AdmiralViscen on March 13, 2014, 11:43:21 PM

175k < 3ds + vita < 180k

Holy shit
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Post by: Tasty on March 13, 2014, 11:48:49 PM
Quote from: AdmiralViscen on March 13, 2014, 11:43:21 PM

175k < 3ds + vita < 180k

Holy shit

Quote from: AdmiralViscen on March 13, 2014, 11:15:03 PM
So do we get English DQ7 now

I'm gonna say no.
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Post by: DCharlieJP on March 13, 2014, 11:55:07 PM
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Japanese developers are: mobile

Line is the game hub we've all been dreaming about all these years!

LINE... is the new Amiga!

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Post by: Great Rumbler on March 14, 2014, 12:06:29 AM
I bought Atelier Escha and Logy, so I'm helping.
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Post by: demi on March 14, 2014, 12:11:26 AM
No you're not
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Post by: Rahxephon91 on March 14, 2014, 12:17:47 AM
Quote from: Takao on March 13, 2014, 10:50:53 PM
neogaf ps4 stans are unbearable acting as though infamous and mgs prologue cancel out titanfall
Maybe not sales, though I wonder really how big Titanfall is going to do, but I'm not sure what makes the game so much better then Infamous. I played the PC beta of Titanfall, it was ok. Not some game changer the media seems to be pushing(not even the only one who's mentioned the manufactured hype). Inafmous has been a solid series and SS looks decent. Personally I would like some actual good single player games right now.
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Post by: Tasty on March 14, 2014, 12:20:35 AM
Gonna deliberately ignore the stupidity of the last two pages...

Anyways, I wonder how that Pokemon number compares to the other games'  fifth months... gut feeling is that it's lower, but I guess 130k after five months is still pretty good.
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Post by: The Sceneman on March 14, 2014, 12:21:10 AM
Comparing those two games is like comparing apples and oranges. Infamous is only hyped because Sonytards need ammo
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Post by: HyperZoneWasAwesome on March 14, 2014, 12:23:33 AM
Quote from: AdmiralViscen on March 13, 2014, 11:43:21 PM

175k < 3ds + vita < 180k

Holy shit
I don't get it.  Are they both bombing, or is one platform selling about 37X the other(and should still be doing better)?
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Post by: Rahxephon91 on March 14, 2014, 12:29:43 AM
Quote from: Formerly Known As Himuro on March 13, 2014, 10:56:29 PM
It isn't ignorance. I know exactly what's out there. I'm so sorry not everyone wants to spend 50 dollars on a fucking Vanillaware beat em up (and I love beat em ups), Gust games, Tales games that AREN'T as good as Vesperia, and more FF13 drek. I bought Dark Souls, I'm getting Dark Souls 2 albeit on pc. This isn't about ignorance. This is about me have far more select taste you. I don't buy everything; I never have bought everything. I buy what I like and I've supported every single bit of the jrpgs that hit that I do like. I even bought Dragon Quest Vi and Radiant Historia when my ds broke and I was ds-less! You can check your mollycoddling tone at the door.
Thank god I don't have it. I like to actually enjoy games.

But whatever I don't care what you personally like or want to play. You wanted to say jrpg fans in general have been starved...

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SMT4 did well for itself and it came out in summer. The time period doesn't matter. The jrpg fanbase just wants quality jrpgs; we are starved.

....and that it was dumb for me to say the jrpg fandom is stupid because they ignored console games like RoF and that they are now even more starved.

The point is right now there have been and will be plenty of jrpgs on consoles that are arguably good that fans shouldn't be "starved". Sorry that you are. I'm not and don't even need handhelds to play good jrpgs.

Quote from: The Sceneman on March 14, 2014, 12:21:10 AM
Comparing those two games is like comparing apples and oranges. Infamous is only hyped because Sonytards need ammo
Yes and probably. But I'd like to believe Infamous will be actually a good game. This is no Lair are Heavenly Sword Redux. Infamous will hopefully just be a solid game, just not some big "console validating" game. Then again I fail to see how TitanFall is that for the xbone. Seems like that also has been overhyped.
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Post by: Great Rumbler on March 14, 2014, 12:34:14 AM
Quote from: demi on March 14, 2014, 12:11:26 AM
No you're not

Am so. :usavich
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Post by: Rahxephon91 on March 14, 2014, 12:50:49 AM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on March 14, 2014, 12:47:16 AM
Quote from: Rahxephon91 on March 14, 2014, 12:29:43 AM
Thank god I don't have it. I like to actually enjoy games.

i mean, unless the wrong toy manufacturer has their name on the device playing it.  then you'll try your absolute hardest to not enjoy it.
And if it's on a phone. Don't forget that.




And you don't have to try to not enjoy a Nintendo handheld. They make it pretty easy.
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Post by: Rahxephon91 on March 14, 2014, 12:53:47 AM
I played Theaterrhythm on my ios device.
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Post by: Cerveza mas fina on March 14, 2014, 03:50:34 AM
Thats pretty bad though.

Almost half of the games I finished this year so far have been on mobile.

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Post by: Rahxephon91 on March 14, 2014, 04:33:04 AM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on March 14, 2014, 03:55:14 AM
yeah, gauging the mobile gaming market by square's port of theatrhythm is a bit like gauging the console market by lords of shadow 2.

hey rahx, why don't you have an android if you don't care about phone games?  i can't think of any other reason to recommend an ios device over an android aside from the app store itself.  it's inferior in pretty much every other way.
I'm not gauging the mobile gaming at all. I've just played the demo because it was free. I don't even know what games are on the ios and I don't really care.

I don't actually care about cell phones. Is an andriod better then an iphone? I wouldn't know because I have so little interests in cell phones.  I have an iphone, because that's the phone my family got and that's the one they gave me. They've had iphones since I guess the things came out and they upgrade it seems on a yearly basis or whenever thier contract allows them to upgrade.  They just have them because they were the cool things to have and they've gotten so use to how they work so I guess they don't want to switch. I don't even have a new iphone, I have my sisters hand me down 4G I guess so she could get an upgrade to the 5 whatever. Is 5 better then 4? I don't know. I hardly know what the 5 does. It took me forever to even press the button to upgrade to whatever the new ios is.

I use my phone to of course make calls, txts, browse the internet, and for the train schedule. That's it. I don't even have many personal apps(maybe 1 or 2) on the thing. The iphone does what I want and so I have very little reason to switch. If I switched I probably would be so confused and not know how to use the thing.

I don't even know my own cellphone number.

I have no interests in playing games on my phone because of course I dislike handheld gaming, but also because a cell phone is something I don't really want to interact with that much.  Just browsing the internet is enough for me and that's the only non-phone thing I've ever done on a cell phone.
Title: Re: Third-kun's Sales Thread of All-Consuming Sales Madness [Enter at your own risk]
Post by: Fifstar on March 14, 2014, 05:49:10 AM
Don't want to get into the 'what's the definiton of a jrpg' discussion, but why are people calling Dark Souls a jrpg? It's at least as much an action game as it is a rpg, if not moreso.
Title: Re: Third-kun's Sales Thread of All-Consuming Sales Madness [Enter at your own risk]
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on March 14, 2014, 06:07:43 AM
People used to call Zelda a RPG too.
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Post by: Fifstar on March 14, 2014, 06:46:27 AM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on March 14, 2014, 05:55:22 AM
It's literally impossible to answer that question without getting into the "what's the definition of a JRPG" discussion.  The short answer is some people use the 'J' in JRPG to denote country of origin while others take the term 'JRPG' on the whole to definite a very particular sort of game, with the country of origin not having any role in it.  Mix in genre-blending (are Link to the Past and Secret of Mana the same genre?) and arbitrary personal rules and you have a recipe for any goddam thing being called an RPG or JRPG or action game or whatever.

Yeah, I'm in the second camp there, so my disclaimer was a bit disingenious there. Just didn't want to start another 3 pages of gaf style arguments being thrown around (although this has been pretty much the course of the thread since the new gen start anyways).

Quote from: Borys on March 14, 2014, 06:24:08 AM
Quote from: Fifstar on March 14, 2014, 05:49:10 AM
Don't want to get into the 'what's the definiton of a jrpg' discussion, but why are people calling Dark Souls a jrpg? It's at least as much an action game as it is a rpg, if not moreso.

It is an RPG game made in Japan by Japanese developers.

 >:(
Title: Re: Third-kun's Sales Thread of All-Consuming Sales Madness [Enter at your own risk]
Post by: archie4208 on March 14, 2014, 06:52:03 AM
I hope Dark Souls 2 is the third best selling game in March.  :uguu
Title: Re: Third-kun's Sales Thread of All-Consuming Sales Madness [Enter at your own risk]
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on March 14, 2014, 07:08:05 AM
I hope it's the best.
Title: Re: Third-kun's Sales Thread of All-Consuming Sales Madness [Enter at your own risk]
Post by: AdmiralViscen on March 14, 2014, 07:25:14 AM
I thought Theatrhythm played and looked a lot better on ios. It was expensive if you bought everything, but that goes for the 3DS version too. And you could just buy like 10 songs and call it a day.

Quote from: HyperZoneWasAwesome on March 14, 2014, 12:23:33 AM
Quote from: AdmiralViscen on March 13, 2014, 11:43:21 PM

175k < 3ds + vita < 180k

Holy shit
I don't get it.  Are they both bombing, or is one platform selling about 37X the other(and should still be doing better)?

Same month last gen the PSP was like 200k and the DS was like 600k, said someone.

3DS is down YoY and YoYoY as well
Title: Re: Third-kun's Sales Thread of All-Consuming Sales Madness [Enter at your own risk]
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on March 14, 2014, 07:43:50 AM
Sony and Nintendo should have released REAL gamephones when mobile was gaining traction.
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Post by: Beezy on March 14, 2014, 07:50:08 AM
Quote from: Lagerless on March 14, 2014, 07:43:50 AM
gamephones
:-\
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Post by: Cerveza mas fina on March 14, 2014, 07:51:28 AM
Im not talking about Ngage or Xperia Play level shitphones, but something good.

They could have had their closed ecosystem and loads of fans would have jumped on board.
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Post by: archie4208 on March 14, 2014, 07:57:29 AM
Quote from: Lagerless on March 14, 2014, 07:08:05 AM
I hope it's the best.

No chance.

Titanfall >>>>>> South Park >>> DS2
Title: Re: Third-kun's Sales Thread of All-Consuming Sales Madness [Enter at your own risk]
Post by: Eel O'Brian on March 14, 2014, 08:43:29 AM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on March 13, 2014, 09:13:45 PM
Quote from: Eel O'Brian on March 13, 2014, 09:08:54 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on March 13, 2014, 07:14:04 PM

Quote from: Lagerless on March 13, 2014, 07:05:29 PM
In other news Apple is sitting on millions of unsold iphone 5cs. Mobile fad coming to an end?

Since the 5S, iPad, and numerous Android devices are doing just fine, I'd say no, the 5C was just a misstep and mobile on the whole is fine.  Especially on the software revenue end of things.

You're free to interpret it through your idiot filter as you like, though.

Its probably coming pretty close to hitting a sales plateau, though, at least for tablets. I've noticed Best Buy and other retailers offering $50 off iPad Airs and minis every other week for the past few months, and you never used to see that this soon after release on Apple stuff.

I think Apple's got plenty to worry about in the medium-to-long term.  That's a far cry from the mobile market being screwed as an entity, though.

Sure, I wasn't even implying that. Just talking, is all. It's interesting to me that tablets seem to be hitting that "good enough" point for a lot of people. And I don't blame them. If you have an iPad 4, there's absolutely no compelling reason to get an Air other than weight and size reduction. Performance-wise, it's still going to do 95% of what the Air does just as well. Most people aren't going to care about paying for an upgrade just to shave 1.5 seconds off an app's loading time. Rumors on the tech/tablet sites I read have Apple only updating the Air this year, passing over the Mini, and releasing the "Maxi" 12.9 inch version next year. Other than bumping the RAM to 2GB, I don't see what they even need to update on the Air. It already blazes through every app out there.
Title: Re: Third-kun's Sales Thread of All-Consuming Sales Madness [Enter at your own risk]
Post by: headwalk on March 14, 2014, 08:44:17 AM
this place makes more sense now. there's always been this bizarre obsession in the GAF bitching thread with finding the most afflicted of lotion palmed loli lapping degenerates. i mean, it's good sport for sure, but for me they've gradually slipped into the background noise of internet fuckups, like guys who only have sex with workboats and post about in on their tumblr.

i guess when your tastes are similar enough that you can feel their microwaved ramen breath down the back of your neck, the threat becomes much more real and immediate.

Title: Re: Third-kun's Sales Thread of All-Consuming Sales Madness [Enter at your own risk]
Post by: Rufus on March 14, 2014, 08:47:36 AM
Don't tell me you actually read most of the drivel from the last few pages?
Title: Re: Third-kun's Sales Thread of All-Consuming Sales Madness [Enter at your own risk]
Post by: headwalk on March 14, 2014, 08:48:34 AM
Quote from: Rufus on March 14, 2014, 08:47:36 AM
Don't tell me you actually read most of the drivel from the last few pages?

i'm a drivel connoisseur. why people are saying things is almost always more interesting than what they are saying.
Title: Re: Third-kun's Sales Thread of All-Consuming Sales Madness [Enter at your own risk]
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on March 14, 2014, 09:23:06 AM
Can we change Sales Madness in the title to Sales Sadness?

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Post by: Cerveza mas fina on March 14, 2014, 09:26:09 AM
Quote from: archie4208 on March 14, 2014, 07:57:29 AM
Quote from: Lagerless on March 14, 2014, 07:08:05 AM
I hope it's the best.

No chance.

Titanfall >>>>>> South Park >>> DS2

I thought we were talking about what we hoped for.

South Park being number 1 would be cool too.

As long as its not Infamous or Titanfall.
Title: Re: Third-kun's Sales Thread of All-Consuming Sales Madness [Enter at your own risk]
Post by: archie4208 on March 14, 2014, 09:32:48 AM
Yeah but my hopes are realistic.  :wag

And shit I forgot about Infamous.  It comes out near the end of the month so maybe DS2 can eek by it. 
Title: Re: Third-kun's Sales Thread of All-Consuming Sales Madness [Enter at your own risk]
Post by: Rufus on March 14, 2014, 09:34:26 AM
Quote from: headwalk on March 14, 2014, 08:48:34 AM
i'm a drivel connoisseur. why people are saying things is almost always more interesting than what they are saying.
Eh.

Eh.

Sometimes, I suppose. Once it stops being surprising it stops being interesting.
Title: Re: Lager-tan's Super-Depressing Sales Thread of Emotionally-Numbing Sales Sadness
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on March 14, 2014, 09:50:11 AM
Lager-tan  :lol
Title: Re: Lager-tan's Super-Depressing Sales Thread of Emotionally-Numbing Sales Sadness
Post by: a slime appears on March 14, 2014, 06:55:51 PM
It's going to be pretty funny in 10 years when the hardcore mobile gamers are whining about how the watch gamers are a bunch of stupid casuals that's ruining their game industry.
Title: Re: Lager-tan's Super-Depressing Sales Thread of Emotionally-Numbing Sales Sadness
Post by: Great Rumbler on March 14, 2014, 07:01:06 PM
Quote from: a slime appears on March 14, 2014, 06:55:51 PM
It's going to be pretty funny in 10 years when the hardcore mobile gamers are whining about how the watch gamers are a bunch of stupid casuals that's ruining their game industry.

"Look at these stupid kids playing babby games on their Google Glass! I remember when we actually had to hold a screen in our hands!"
Title: Re: Lager-tan's Super-Depressing Sales Thread of Emotionally-Numbing Sales Sadness
Post by: Human Snorenado on March 14, 2014, 07:07:59 PM
I want in on the matrix head jack beta
Title: Re: Lager-tan's Super-Depressing Sales Thread of Emotionally-Numbing Sales Sadness
Post by: cool breeze on March 14, 2014, 07:17:37 PM
Quote from: Great Rumbler on March 14, 2014, 07:01:06 PM
Quote from: a slime appears on March 14, 2014, 06:55:51 PM
It's going to be pretty funny in 10 years when the hardcore mobile gamers are whining about how the watch gamers are a bunch of stupid casuals that's ruining their game industry.

"Look at these stupid kids playing babby games on their Google Glass! I remember when we actually had to hold a screen in our hands!"

geriatrics wearing glasses to play games  :derp

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUBVvk-JUwQ
Title: Re: Lager-tan's Super-Depressing Sales Thread of Emotionally-Numbing Sales Sadness
Post by: a slime appears on March 14, 2014, 07:30:36 PM
I was kidding, but it really is going to be like that.

Once we have consumer friendly neural interfaces a good segment of the population is going to whine and bitch about how inaccurate it is over a good old fashioned touch-screen. But it's OK because everyone is going to laugh at the distinguished mentally-challenged fellows who play their retro Xbox games with plastic fisher price colored buttons and a twiddly sticks like a bunch of fucking cavemen.

Fuck you Sales thread, you did this.
Title: Re: Lager-tan's Super-Depressing Sales Thread of Emotionally-Numbing Sales Sadness
Post by: MCD on March 17, 2014, 12:11:24 PM
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2014-03-17-titanfall-boosts-xbox-one-sales-by-96-per-cent-in-the-uk
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The release of Titanfall boosted Xbox One sales by a whopping 96 per cent in the UK compared to the console's sales the previous week.

Respawn's PC and Xbox One shooter is the UK's best-selling game, as expected, and is the biggest release of 2014 so far with more than double the sales of what had been 2014's current leader, FIFA 14, Chart-Track revealed. The Xbox 360 version releases in a couple of weeks.

The eye-catching £399 Xbox One Titanfall bundle, which includes a download token of the game, accounted for over 70 per cent of all Xbox One hardware sold last week.

It should be noted that Chart-Track doesn't track digital sales, but the company confirmed to Eurogamer this morning that sales of the download token from the Titanfall hardware bundle are included in its figures.

Meanwhile, Dark Souls 2 is in second place, and sold 20 per cent more copies than Dark Souls during its launch week.

South Park drops to number three, The Lego Movie holds fast at four, Thief is down to five, FIFA 14 is sixth, Plants vs. Zombies: Garden Warfare is seven, Call of Duty: Ghosts is down two to eight, Minecraft: Xbox 360 Edition is nine and Battlefield 4 is 10.

Yoshi's New Island entered the chart at 12. It's the third biggest week one for a Yoshi game in the UK, behind Yoshi's Island DS and Yoshi's Story 64.

PAL Charts - Week 11, 2014:  http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=104697066&postcount=1
Title: Re: Lager-tan's Super-Depressing Sales Thread of Emotionally-Numbing Sales Sadness
Post by: Himu on March 17, 2014, 01:15:50 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on March 17, 2014, 12:17:39 PM
seems over for ps4

at first i thought you were serious but then i realized you were channeling your inner Third
Title: Re: Lager-tan's Super-Depressing Sales Thread of Emotionally-Numbing Sales Sadness
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on March 17, 2014, 02:00:33 PM
Seems PS4 sales went up 72% too this week.

What about Wii U sales you ask?

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Post by: Himu on March 17, 2014, 02:01:39 PM
the gamecube in the background seems pretty apt in that image. I'm going to photoshop a wii u in there.
Title: Re: Lager-tan's Super-Depressing Sales Thread of Emotionally-Numbing Sales Sadness
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on March 18, 2014, 10:44:36 AM
Xbone is launching in Tier 2 in September.

Sales gonna be bad imho. Only reason 360 gained some traction in these countries is cause it was a year before the PS3 and a 100 euro cheaper, and even that only gave them max 20% marketshare.
Title: Re: Lager-tan's Super-Depressing Sales Thread of Emotionally-Numbing Sales Sadness
Post by: chronovore on March 18, 2014, 10:57:28 AM
Tier 2: Xbone in Japan :japancry

I'll be stunned if anyone I know locally buys one. Even the 360 fans are wondering why they would want this.
Title: Re: Lager-tan's Super-Depressing Sales Thread of Emotionally-Numbing Sales Sadness
Post by: archnemesis on March 18, 2014, 11:04:29 AM
Just in time for FIFA and Call of Duty. The difference between launching in April and September might not be that big.
Title: Re: Lager-tan's Super-Depressing Sales Thread of Emotionally-Numbing Sales Sadness
Post by: Third on March 23, 2014, 06:05:21 PM
The XO did pretty well, thanks to the pricedrop and Titanfall. But what's next?

Another pricedrop?
Title: Re: Lager-tan's Super-Depressing Sales Thread of Emotionally-Numbing Sales Sadness
Post by: Mupepe on March 23, 2014, 07:12:29 PM
How do we know it did pretty well? Were any numbers dropped recently or something?
Title: Re: Lager-tan's Super-Depressing Sales Thread of Emotionally-Numbing Sales Sadness
Post by: Bebpo on March 23, 2014, 07:14:08 PM
I figure it did well, but I find it really weird that there's been an overall lack of PR MS beating their chest about Titanfall saving the Xbone.  Only thing I even saw was the "hundreds of thousands of players are playing Titanfall on Xbox One!" which people took to mean <500k were playing an online-only game at that point in time.
Title: Re: Lager-tan's Super-Depressing Sales Thread of Emotionally-Numbing Sales Sadness
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on March 24, 2014, 04:28:27 AM
Germany  :heartbeat :heartbeat :heartbeat

01 (NE) PS3 DARK SOULS II (NAMCO BANDAI GAMES)
02 (NE) XBO TITANFALL (ELECTRONIC ARTS)
03 (NE) PC TITANFALL (ELECTRONIC ARTS)
04 (NE) 3DS YOSHI'S NEW ISLAND (NINTENDO)
05 (NE) 360 DARK SOULS II (NAMCO BANDAI GAMES)
06 (09) PS3 GRAND THEFT AUTO V (TAKE-TWO INTERACTIVE)
07 (01) PS3 NEED FOR SPEED: RIVALS (ELECTRONIC ARTS)
08 (02) PC DIABLO III (ACTIVISION BLIZZARD)
09 (06) PS3 THE ELDER SCROLLS V - SKYRIM (BETHESDA SOFTWORKS)
10 (05) PS3 CALL OF DUTY: BLACK OPS II (ACTIVISION BLIZZARD)
Title: Re: Lager-tan's Super-Depressing Sales Thread of Emotionally-Numbing Sales Sadness
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on March 24, 2014, 08:46:35 AM
I played Demon Souls and liked it a lot (and finished it)

The structure made it less frustrating then I remember Dark Souls to be, and with a bit of help in getting the right gear early on I was able to have fun.

Title: Re: Lager-tan's Super-Depressing Sales Thread of Emotionally-Numbing Sales Sadness
Post by: Takao on March 24, 2014, 07:48:21 PM
PS2 sold more software in Spain last year than Xbox One. (http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=790226)

wat

In related news, the games market over there is collapsing.
Title: Re: Lager-tan's Super-Depressing Sales Thread of Emotionally-Numbing Sales Sadness
Post by: a slime appears on March 25, 2014, 07:19:01 PM
Castlevania brought the ruin to Spain. I give Kojima credit, he sure can butcher an economy as well as he butches a story.
Title: Re: Lager-tan's Super-Depressing Sales Thread of Emotionally-Numbing Sales Sadness
Post by: archie4208 on April 03, 2014, 10:11:33 AM
Reaper of Souls does 2.7m in the first week. (http://investor.activision.com/releasedetail.cfm?ReleaseID=837814)

D3 vanilla pulled 6.5m
Title: Re: Lager-tan's Super-Depressing Sales Thread of Emotionally-Numbing Sales Sadness
Post by: Human Snorenado on April 03, 2014, 10:14:30 AM
Quote from: archie4208 on April 03, 2014, 10:11:33 AM
Reaper of Souls does 2.7m in the first week. (http://investor.activision.com/releasedetail.cfm?ReleaseID=837814)

D3 vanilla pulled 6.5m

So, approximately 3.8 of those 6.5 million D3 sales were Chinese gold botters

:ohhh
Title: Re: Lager-tan's Super-Depressing Sales Thread of Emotionally-Numbing Sales Sadness
Post by: Shaka Khan on April 03, 2014, 10:56:00 AM
Have Diablo expansions historically sold on par with the base games?
Title: Re: Lager-tan's Super-Depressing Sales Thread of Emotionally-Numbing Sales Sadness
Post by: Joe Molotov on April 03, 2014, 11:46:11 AM
The real test is whether the Diablo III Battle Chest is still selling 5 or 6 years after it comes out.
Title: Re: Lager-tan's Super-Depressing Sales Thread of Emotionally-Numbing Sales Sadness
Post by: headwalk on April 09, 2014, 09:01:40 AM
PS4 just hit 15k weekly in japan.

sony really need to get on top of their supply issues. they'll never quench the thirst at this rate.
Title: Re: Lager-tan's Super-Depressing Sales Thread of Emotionally-Numbing Sales Sadness
Post by: pilonv1 on April 09, 2014, 09:04:24 AM
Re-releasing a 12 month old game is sure to help
Title: Re: Lager-tan's Super-Depressing Sales Thread of Emotionally-Numbing Sales Sadness
Post by: Fifstar on April 09, 2014, 10:23:19 AM
Dat limited PS4 supply.

Also, seems like there third party releases on the 3Ds have dried up almost completly? Gras is that much greener on mobile or what's going on? Seems like Vita is getting more games (I don't follow sales that regularly), is it because of a different audience?
Title: Re: Lager-tan's Super-Depressing Sales Thread of Emotionally-Numbing Sales Sadness
Post by: bork on April 11, 2014, 01:48:33 PM
Didn't see this until now:

Quote from: Takao on March 24, 2014, 07:48:21 PM
PS2 sold more software in Spain last year than Xbox One. (http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=790226)

wat

In related news, the games market over there is collapsing.
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on March 24, 2014, 08:14:28 PM
So's the economy, so that's not terribly surprising.  That's what they get for fucking with Castlevania.
Quote from: a slime appears on March 25, 2014, 07:19:01 PM
Castlevania brought the ruin to Spain. I give Kojima credit, he sure can butcher an economy as well as he butches a story.

 :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol
 :clap :clap :clap :clap :clap
Title: Re: Lager-tan's Super-Depressing Sales Thread of Emotionally-Numbing Sales Sadness
Post by: archie4208 on April 16, 2014, 03:29:20 PM
Pretty good article on Steam figures. (http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2014/04/introducing-steam-gauge-ars-reveals-steams-most-popular-games/)  It's estimates, but the methodology seems sound enough.

(http://i.imgur.com/n2hYXUG.png)

Dota :bow2

Civ 5 :bow2
Title: Re: Lager-tan's Super-Depressing Sales Thread of Emotionally-Numbing Sales Sadness
Post by: Rufus on April 16, 2014, 03:55:36 PM
How is Ricochet above Skyrim?

Barely played by those who own it, too. :lol
(http://cdn.arstechnica.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/stacked-sales-update.001.png)
Title: Re: Lager-tan's Super-Depressing Sales Thread of Emotionally-Numbing Sales Sadness
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on April 16, 2014, 03:56:54 PM
It was in some packs
Title: Re: Lager-tan's Super-Depressing Sales Thread of Emotionally-Numbing Sales Sadness
Post by: benjipwns on April 16, 2014, 04:01:29 PM
Quote from: Rufus on April 16, 2014, 03:55:36 PM
How is Ricochet above Skyrim?
I believe it's one of the games in the bundle that activates with the larger variety of Half-Life/CS keys. (Especially any old retail ones.)

HL, Opposing Force, Blue Shift, CS, DoD, TF:C, DM Classic, Ricochet is what you get IIRC
Title: Re: Lager-tan's Super-Depressing Sales Thread of Emotionally-Numbing Sales Sadness
Post by: Joe Molotov on April 16, 2014, 04:02:28 PM
If you register a Half-Life 1 CD-Key, it gives you all the GoldSrc games, including Ricochet. Plus, I'm sure a lot of people have bought the Valve Complete Bundle during various sales.
Title: Re: Lager-tan's Super-Depressing Sales Thread of Emotionally-Numbing Sales Sadness
Post by: Rufus on April 16, 2014, 04:26:29 PM
I see.
Title: Re: Lager-tan's Super-Depressing Sales Thread of Emotionally-Numbing Sales Sadness
Post by: Himu on April 16, 2014, 05:02:07 PM
Quote from: Joe Molotov on April 16, 2014, 04:02:28 PM
If you register a Half-Life 1 CD-Key, it gives you all the GoldSrc games, including Ricochet. Plus, I'm sure a lot of people have bought the Valve Complete Bundle during various sales.

What about a Half Life: Blue Shift cd I got from mups in high school
Title: Re: Lager-tan's Super-Depressing Sales Thread of Emotionally-Numbing Sales Sadness
Post by: benjipwns on April 16, 2014, 05:03:50 PM
Quote from: Formerly Known As Himuro on April 16, 2014, 05:02:07 PM
What about a Half Life: Blue Shift cd I got from mups in high school
Probably will do it, I think all the discs from the old retail collection do. Unless the key's already been activated.

Try it, all you'd lose is the time to type the key in if it was no good.
Title: Re: Lager-tan's Super-Depressing Sales Thread of Emotionally-Numbing Sales Sadness
Post by: Joe Molotov on April 16, 2014, 05:06:26 PM
Quote from: Formerly Known As Himuro on April 16, 2014, 05:02:07 PM
Quote from: Joe Molotov on April 16, 2014, 04:02:28 PM
If you register a Half-Life 1 CD-Key, it gives you all the GoldSrc games, including Ricochet. Plus, I'm sure a lot of people have bought the Valve Complete Bundle during various sales.

What about a Half Life: Blue Shift cd I got from mups in high school

Yep.
Title: Re: Lager-tan's Super-Depressing Sales Thread of Emotionally-Numbing Sales Sadness
Post by: Himu on April 16, 2014, 05:19:59 PM
Awesome thanks mups.

Why are there so many counter strikes?
Title: Re: Lager-tan's Super-Depressing Sales Thread of Emotionally-Numbing Sales Sadness
Post by: Great Rumbler on April 16, 2014, 05:30:09 PM
Quote from: Formerly Known As Himuro on April 16, 2014, 05:19:59 PM
Why are there so many counter strikes?

Well, first there's the original Counter-Strike. Then in 2004, they released Condition Zero, an update/map pack. People didn't like it that much. So later in 2004, they ported CS to the source engine [Counter-Strike: Source] with lots of updates. In 2012, they released Global Offensive, a true sequel to the original.
Title: Re: Lager-tan's Super-Depressing Sales Thread of Emotionally-Numbing Sales Sadness
Post by: Pringo on April 16, 2014, 06:35:01 PM
http://blog.us.playstation.com/2014/04/16/ps4-hits-7-million-globally/#sf2613495

PS4 has sold 7 million worldwide.
Title: Re: Lager-tan's Super-Depressing Sales Thread of Emotionally-Numbing Sales Sadness
Post by: archie4208 on April 16, 2014, 07:48:03 PM
That Ars Technica article updated to show the top 100 "sales" on Steam. (http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2014/04/steam-gauge-addressing-your-questions-and-concerns/2/)

Dark Souls broke 1.4 million :rock
Title: Re: Lager-tan's Super-Depressing Sales Thread of Emotionally-Numbing Sales Sadness
Post by: benjipwns on April 16, 2014, 07:52:40 PM
Looks like the "market" for "hardcore" PC games is about 1.5-2.5 million.

With probably half the sales or more at $15 and under?
Title: Re: Lager-tan's Super-Depressing Sales Thread of Emotionally-Numbing Sales Sadness
Post by: Raban on April 16, 2014, 08:38:39 PM
PC GAMING IS SAVING THE INDUSTRY GUISE!!1! SEERYUSLY GUISE!! MASTUR RACE WINS AGAIN AMIRITE LOL
Title: Re: Lager-tan's Super-Depressing Sales Thread of Emotionally-Numbing Sales Sadness
Post by: Great Rumbler on April 16, 2014, 09:14:48 PM
Quote from: benjipwns on April 16, 2014, 07:52:40 PM
Looks like the "market" for "hardcore" PC games is about 1.5-2.5 million.

With probably half the sales or more at $15 and under?

So...the same as everything else.
Title: Re: Lager-tan's Super-Depressing Sales Thread of Emotionally-Numbing Sales Sadness
Post by: archie4208 on April 16, 2014, 09:22:35 PM
Quote from: Raban on April 16, 2014, 08:38:39 PM
PC GAMING IS SAVING THE INDUSTRY GUISE!!1! SEERYUSLY GUISE!! MASTUR RACE WINS AGAIN AMIRITE LOL

Steam is just a small part of the PC industry.  You also have the F2P juggernauts and Blizzard games.

So yeah, you're right.  :smug
Title: Re: Lager-tan's Super-Depressing Sales Thread of Emotionally-Numbing Sales Sadness
Post by: benjipwns on April 16, 2014, 09:27:39 PM
Quote from: Great Rumbler on April 16, 2014, 09:14:48 PM
So...the same as everything else.
Except none of it is coded to the metal and is all full of DRM.
Title: Re: Lager-tan's Super-Depressing Sales Thread of Emotionally-Numbing Sales Sadness
Post by: Himu on April 16, 2014, 10:55:54 PM
Ps2 games are beautiful. :heartbeat
Title: Re: Lager-tan's Super-Depressing Sales Thread of Emotionally-Numbing Sales Sadness
Post by: AdmiralViscen on April 16, 2014, 11:24:19 PM
Seems like third parties should shift from Steam to Wii U
Title: Re: Lager-tan's Super-Depressing Sales Thread of Emotionally-Numbing Sales Sadness
Post by: Shaka Khan on April 17, 2014, 12:43:56 AM
Oscar, how does 20m software sales in 6 months for PS4 historically stack up against other systems?

Title: Re: Lager-tan's Super-Depressing Sales Thread of Emotionally-Numbing Sales Sadness
Post by: Shaka Khan on April 17, 2014, 01:01:18 AM
That puts the PS4 slightly behind the Wii in attachment. But still, not too shabby.
Title: Re: Lager-tan's Super-Depressing Sales Thread of Emotionally-Numbing Sales Sadness
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on April 17, 2014, 02:26:26 AM
Wonder if ps4 has doubled up on the bone already.
Title: Re: Lager-tan's Super-Depressing Sales Thread of Emotionally-Numbing Sales Sadness
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on April 17, 2014, 04:25:31 AM
Do you think sony is being pre emptive of npd with this or they are just following their own agenda and timeline?
Title: Re: Lager-tan's Super-Depressing Sales Thread of Emotionally-Numbing Sales Sadness
Post by: archnemesis on April 17, 2014, 04:35:04 AM
I wouldn't be surprised if the Xbox One sold more in the US. The brand is very strong and it isn't supply restricted at all.
Title: Re: Lager-tan's Super-Depressing Sales Thread of Emotionally-Numbing Sales Sadness
Post by: Phoenix Dark on April 17, 2014, 09:42:50 AM
Quote from: Pringo on April 16, 2014, 06:35:01 PM
http://blog.us.playstation.com/2014/04/16/ps4-hits-7-million-globally/#sf2613495

PS4 has sold 7 million worldwide.

RIP next gen
Title: Re: Lager-tan's Super-Depressing Sales Thread of Emotionally-Numbing Sales Sadness
Post by: Mupepe on April 17, 2014, 05:21:08 PM
They're everywhere in my area.  They've been easy to find since mid/late January in my area
Title: Re: Lager-tan's Super-Depressing Sales Thread of Emotionally-Numbing Sales Sadness
Post by: Mr. Gundam on April 17, 2014, 05:37:41 PM
I see PS4s and XB1s pretty regularly now.
Title: Re: Lager-tan's Super-Depressing Sales Thread of Emotionally-Numbing Sales Sadness
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on April 17, 2014, 06:28:48 PM
Ps4 still sold out here.

And it won npd it seems?

If so its all over for ms.
Title: Re: Lager-tan's Super-Depressing Sales Thread of Emotionally-Numbing Sales Sadness
Post by: Takao on April 17, 2014, 06:34:48 PM
PS4 outsold XB1 in March in the US ... yikes.

But even more yikes is the fact that software is down 28% over March 2013.
Title: Re: Lager-tan's Super-Depressing Sales Thread of Emotionally-Numbing Sales Sadness
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on April 17, 2014, 06:36:36 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/MrK2PXY.gif)
Title: Re: Lager-tan's Super-Depressing Sales Thread of Emotionally-Numbing Sales Sadness
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on April 17, 2014, 06:38:00 PM
(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3706/13914988055_217e130ed7_o.png)
Title: Re: Lager-tan's Super-Depressing Sales Thread of Emotionally-Numbing Sales Sadness
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on April 17, 2014, 06:47:59 PM
Xbone sold 311k

Seems not many people picked one up for titanfall

This is really a disaster for ms
Title: Re: Lager-tan's Super-Depressing Sales Thread of Emotionally-Numbing Sales Sadness
Post by: Human Snorenado on April 17, 2014, 06:51:24 PM
...is this the only way you can get a boner? You don't even own a fucking PS4. Seriously.
Title: Re: Lager-tan's Super-Depressing Sales Thread of Emotionally-Numbing Sales Sadness
Post by: archie4208 on April 17, 2014, 06:58:24 PM
Quote from: Takao on April 17, 2014, 06:34:48 PM
PS4 outsold XB1 in March in the US ... yikes.

But even more yikes is the fact that software is down 28% over March 2013.

(http://i.imgur.com/jS7a79s.jpg)

choo choo motherfuckers
Title: Re: Lager-tan's Super-Depressing Sales Thread of Emotionally-Numbing Sales Sadness
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on April 17, 2014, 06:59:14 PM
This is the sales thread bro

You are right I should stop talking about the xbone

spoiler (click to show/hide)
cause its not selling
[close]
Title: Re: Lager-tan's Super-Depressing Sales Thread of Emotionally-Numbing Sales Sadness
Post by: Mupepe on April 17, 2014, 07:00:06 PM
Knowing the past MS strategy for its hardware bad sales just means they'll pump more money into it. The last few years of the 360 lifespan they just coasted on good sales and they sucked. Oh well.

Their best bet at this point really is an official price drop.
Title: Re: Lager-tan's Super-Depressing Sales Thread of Emotionally-Numbing Sales Sadness
Post by: Diunx on April 17, 2014, 07:00:55 PM
Sony :rejoice is this how Nas stans felt after Ether dropped?
Title: Re: Lager-tan's Super-Depressing Sales Thread of Emotionally-Numbing Sales Sadness
Post by: Diunx on April 17, 2014, 07:05:48 PM
Oh shit MGSV demo in the top 10! :rejoice

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ed06U4lHVJ0
Title: Re: Lager-tan's Super-Depressing Sales Thread of Emotionally-Numbing Sales Sadness
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on April 17, 2014, 07:06:40 PM
A sure sign of the industry dying, besides software sales, is the fact gaf didnt crash.
Title: Re: Lager-tan's Super-Depressing Sales Thread of Emotionally-Numbing Sales Sadness
Post by: Mupepe on April 17, 2014, 07:06:58 PM
The gaf thread is hilarious. Fanboys are creaming their pants at the hardware sales
Title: Re: Lager-tan's Super-Depressing Sales Thread of Emotionally-Numbing Sales Sadness
Post by: MCD on April 17, 2014, 07:09:39 PM
Quote from: Lagerless on April 17, 2014, 06:38:00 PM
(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3706/13914988055_217e130ed7_o.png)
Where Spencer on that list?
Title: Re: Lager-tan's Super-Depressing Sales Thread of Emotionally-Numbing Sales Sadness
Post by: Mupepe on April 17, 2014, 07:10:50 PM
Did we ever get solid numbers for titanfall from ms or ea? That alone is pretty telling for its and the rest of the top 10 sales
Title: Re: Lager-tan's Super-Depressing Sales Thread of Emotionally-Numbing Sales Sadness
Post by: MCD on April 17, 2014, 07:12:12 PM
Some guy asked Spencer once, he said ask EA.

lol he shitbin it fast
Title: Re: Lager-tan's Super-Depressing Sales Thread of Emotionally-Numbing Sales Sadness
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on April 17, 2014, 07:12:13 PM
The story of Xbox 360 is:
- Make a good AAA games console
- Accidentally get a second wind with Kinect
- Accidentally get a third wind with Minecraft

I'm not sure MS is aware (or willing to admit) internally how much console Minecraft exclusivity carried them through the past few years...
Title: Re: Lager-tan's Super-Depressing Sales Thread of Emotionally-Numbing Sales Sadness
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on April 17, 2014, 07:13:00 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/owI89NH.jpg)
Title: Re: Lager-tan's Super-Depressing Sales Thread of Emotionally-Numbing Sales Sadness
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on April 17, 2014, 07:20:36 PM
Quote from: Howard Alan Treesong on April 17, 2014, 07:12:13 PM
The story of Xbox 360 is:
- Make a good AAA games console
- Accidentally get a second wind with Kinect
- Accidentally get a third wind with Minecraft

I'm not sure MS is aware (or willing to admit) internally how much console Minecraft exclusivity carried them through the past few years...

Think 360 story goes more like this
-get lucky crazy ken made a 599 box and released it 1 year late
-xbl

Then again its never just one thing, but price is a huge factor.

Not sure if Kinect and Minecraft helped the 360 that much since in that period the ps3 overtook it
Title: Re: Lager-tan's Super-Depressing Sales Thread of Emotionally-Numbing Sales Sadness
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on April 17, 2014, 07:29:27 PM
Quote from: Lagerless on April 17, 2014, 07:20:36 PM
Quote from: Howard Alan Treesong on April 17, 2014, 07:12:13 PM
The story of Xbox 360 is:
- Make a good AAA games console
- Accidentally get a second wind with Kinect
- Accidentally get a third wind with Minecraft

I'm not sure MS is aware (or willing to admit) internally how much console Minecraft exclusivity carried them through the past few years...

Not sure if Kinect and Minecraft helped the 360 that much since in that period the ps3 overtook it

That's the point - MS got not one but two "once-a-generation" windfalls and managed to ride them all the way to sales parity
Title: Re: Lager-tan's Super-Depressing Sales Thread of Emotionally-Numbing Sales Sadness
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on April 17, 2014, 07:34:19 PM
How much did minecraft sell on 360?

It was some insane number right? 18 mil?

Never thought of it as a system seller but i guess it is.
Title: Re: Lager-tan's Super-Depressing Sales Thread of Emotionally-Numbing Sales Sadness
Post by: Pringo on April 17, 2014, 07:37:26 PM
Quote from: Lagerless on April 17, 2014, 07:34:19 PM
How much did minecraft sell on 360?

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2014-04-04-minecraft-xbox-360-edition-sales-hit-12m

Over 12 million so far.
Title: Re: Lager-tan's Super-Depressing Sales Thread of Emotionally-Numbing Sales Sadness
Post by: cool breeze on April 17, 2014, 07:44:21 PM
these sales are bizarre.  it's like sony is coming out on top by default because the other two fell on their faces.  or maybe I simply can't identify what sony is doing right, only that they're not doing anything wrong.
Title: Re: Lager-tan's Super-Depressing Sales Thread of Emotionally-Numbing Sales Sadness
Post by: fistfulofmetal on April 17, 2014, 07:51:50 PM
Quote from: fryinghigh on April 17, 2014, 07:44:21 PM
only that they're not doing anything wrong.

bingo
Title: Re: Lager-tan's Super-Depressing Sales Thread of Emotionally-Numbing Sales Sadness
Post by: Himu on April 17, 2014, 07:57:48 PM
Quote from: fryinghigh on April 17, 2014, 07:44:21 PM
these sales are bizarre.  it's like sony is coming out on top by default because the other two fell on their faces.  or maybe I simply can't identify what sony is doing right, only that they're not doing anything wrong.

Yeah, I'm confused.
Title: Re: Lager-tan's Super-Depressing Sales Thread of Emotionally-Numbing Sales Sadness
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on April 17, 2014, 08:10:52 PM
Is this anything new for sony?

-ps1 = sega fucking up with 32x then gimping saturn, nintendo being nintendo and releasing lateeee and with carts

-ps2 = sega fucking up with dreamcast, nintendo releasing a lunchbox without a dvd player, ms being laaaatee


Title: Re: Lager-tan's Super-Depressing Sales Thread of Emotionally-Numbing Sales Sadness
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on April 17, 2014, 08:12:27 PM
High five oscar, seems were on the same page after all
Title: Re: Lager-tan's Super-Depressing Sales Thread of Emotionally-Numbing Sales Sadness
Post by: Joe Molotov on April 17, 2014, 08:27:55 PM
Quote from: fryinghigh on April 17, 2014, 07:44:21 PM
these sales are bizarre.  it's like sony is coming out on top by default because the other two fell on their faces.  or maybe I simply can't identify what sony is doing right, only that they're not doing anything wrong.

Judging by the charts, there's only one real winner.




Mojang.
Title: Re: Lager-tan's Super-Depressing Sales Thread of Emotionally-Numbing Sales Sadness
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on April 17, 2014, 08:28:00 PM
"not screwing up in the game industry" is pretty hard tho, I mean look at PS3, Wii U, Xbox One ... consoles fall flat on their face more often than not!
Title: Re: Lager-tan's Super-Depressing Sales Thread of Emotionally-Numbing Sales Sadness
Post by: benjipwns on April 17, 2014, 08:38:19 PM
Quote from: Mupepe on April 17, 2014, 07:10:50 PM
Did we ever get solid numbers for titanfall from ms or ea? That alone is pretty telling for its and the rest of the top 10 sales
Quote
With Xbox One and Xbox 360 combined, the Xbox platform sold the most games across all console platforms with 4.1 million games sold. Xbox One sold 1.4 million games in March and Xbox 360 sold 2.7 million, totaling 49 percent of the total software market share (Xbox 360 and Xbox One combined).
So...less than that...

EDIT: Oh wait, it's on 360 too. Totally forgot.
Title: Re: Lager-tan's Super-Depressing Sales Thread of Emotionally-Numbing Sales Sadness
Post by: Rahxephon91 on April 17, 2014, 09:21:19 PM
So can we now say that the Titanfall hype was actually artificial hype?
Title: Re: Lager-tan's Super-Depressing Sales Thread of Emotionally-Numbing Sales Sadness
Post by: Mupepe on April 17, 2014, 09:25:22 PM
Or contained just to the hardcore who tend to hang out on the internet. I never witnessed any hype offline.
Title: Re: Lager-tan's Super-Depressing Sales Thread of Emotionally-Numbing Sales Sadness
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on April 17, 2014, 09:26:38 PM
xbone :lol
Title: Re: Lager-tan's Super-Depressing Sales Thread of Emotionally-Numbing Sales Sadness
Post by: Rahxephon91 on April 17, 2014, 09:29:29 PM
Quote from: Mupepe on April 17, 2014, 09:25:22 PM
Or contained just to the hardcore who tend to hang out on the internet. I never witnessed any hype offline.
Yeah, that's more like it. I'm not saying the game is bad (though I can't say I was into what I played), but it sure like it was being pushed as this game changing REAL NEXT GEN game. Something that was going to make the xbone. It just seems like it's a solid multiplayer title. Honestly, it just seems like something that could have been a F2P title on Steam.
Title: Re: Lager-tan's Super-Depressing Sales Thread of Emotionally-Numbing Sales Sadness
Post by: benjipwns on April 17, 2014, 10:51:51 PM
Launching a console today is different. Compared to last generation, you likely waited in line with limited supply for hours only to be empty handed. This past launch you had ample opportunity to preorder on numerous occasions online to guarantee your console. Today we receive information differently. Before that, you heard from word of mouth through advertising campaigns and marketing whether it was gaming magazines, television commercials like 'Nintendont' or Sony's creative PS2 commercials, or mostly at lunch bantering back and forth. Sure specs were out but only the hardcore truly knew what differences there may be while the general public was generally unaware. Now we consume information instantly. Scholars like Thomas Friedman argue the world is now flat, where information is transmitted instantly across the globe and where economic advantage and the playing field is becoming equal across continents. Some say this instantaneous spread of information was responsible for recent revolutions e.g., the Arab Spring. The question is asked do you think growing use of internet or the spread of information now more accessible has made a difference compared to last console launch?

I personally think it has. Today the average consumer is a lot smarter than before. While the internet certainly was widely used when the 360 and PS3 launched, I think people today are more accustomed to actually using the internet, social media, reading more information than ever before because of smartphones, tablets, etc. Today's generation lives on the internet. More people know the PS4 has better specs than XO than what the specs were with PS3 and 360, the DRM restrictions of XO spread like wildfire, the 1080p scandals, and more. I feel today the average person is more intelligent than previous console launches because of these reasons. They are in general more aware. I am experiencing people that I wouldn't think that are much more knowledgeable about products than before through the quick and ease of information being transmitted.
Title: Re: Lager-tan's Super-Depressing Sales Thread of Emotionally-Numbing Sales Sadness
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on April 17, 2014, 11:26:08 PM
The Xbone's price needed to drop down to $399 yesterday.  Nobody wants to pay a $100 Kinect premium.  Just drop the price already.
Title: Re: Lager-tan's Super-Depressing Sales Thread of Emotionally-Numbing Sales Sadness
Post by: chronovore on April 17, 2014, 11:29:43 PM
Quote from: Lagerless on April 17, 2014, 06:47:59 PM
Xbone sold 311k

Seems not many people picked one up for titanfall

This is really a disaster for ms

Mods, help. Pls. change Lagerless' name to SecondThird
Title: Re: Lager-tan's Super-Depressing Sales Thread of Emotionally-Numbing Sales Sadness
Post by: Pringo on April 17, 2014, 11:32:56 PM
Wii + Wii U < 100k

Vita close to four digit monthly sales.
Title: Re: Lager-tan's Super-Depressing Sales Thread of Emotionally-Numbing Sales Sadness
Post by: cool breeze on April 17, 2014, 11:47:49 PM
Wii + Wii U + Vita = Xbox 360

 
Title: Re: Lager-tan's Super-Depressing Sales Thread of Emotionally-Numbing Sales Sadness
Post by: Himu on April 17, 2014, 11:53:01 PM
Quote from: chronovore on April 17, 2014, 11:29:43 PM
Quote from: Lagerless on April 17, 2014, 06:47:59 PM
Xbone sold 311k

Seems not many people picked one up for titanfall

This is really a disaster for ms

Mods, help. Pls. change Lagerless' name to SecondThird

Naw. Third makes his account on forums in sequential order. On OA he's First, on gaf he's Second, here he's Third. Lager is clearly Fourth.
Title: Re: Lager-tan's Super-Depressing Sales Thread of Emotionally-Numbing Sales Sadness
Post by: thisismyusername on April 18, 2014, 12:07:53 AM
Quote from: Rahxephon91 on April 17, 2014, 09:21:19 PM
So can we now say that the Titanfall hype was actually artificial hype?

Yes. Basically. What everyone has been saying since the beta.

Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on April 17, 2014, 09:27:50 PM
Quote from: Rahxephon91 on April 17, 2014, 09:21:19 PM
So can we now say that the Titanfall hype was actually artificial hype?

Ehn, I think that's going a little far.  It's still the number one game this month, and it did alright.  Probably more accurate to say its hype as a system-selling exclusive a la Halo was overdone.

Doesn't matter about sales. He point was the hype: The thing only had manufactured hype. Those that enjoyed the "beta"/demo got it. Those that saw through the hype didn't.

As far as sales go: It went decent for X-boxen/PC (digital) but not great. Double so for the next-gen launch where MS was hoping it'd be a killer app and wasn't. But it didn't set the world on fire like the hype was trying to make you believe.

Quote from: Pringo on April 17, 2014, 11:32:56 PM
Vita close to four digit monthly sales.

Sony (fans) thinking those indies alone would save the system...  :lol Time to either kill it (the smart move) or actually put some of their PS4 dev houses (read: Bend) on the system overtime. But at this point I can't see even Bend helping to save the system.

Might as well cut their losses, offer PS+ to owners of the system/IGC ALL the titles as free to subbers and wash their hands of it.
Title: Re: Lager-tan's Super-Depressing Sales Thread of Emotionally-Numbing Sales Sadness
Post by: Human Snorenado on April 18, 2014, 12:51:16 AM
Titanfall was never going to be the new hotness while Destiny existed. Loot > fegs in mechs. It's just science.
Title: Re: Lager-tan's Super-Depressing Sales Thread of Emotionally-Numbing Sales Sadness
Post by: Tasty on April 18, 2014, 01:07:36 AM
Quote from: Pringo on April 17, 2014, 11:32:56 PM
Wii + Wii U < 100k

Vita close to four digit monthly sales.

:holeup

Wii U needs to get a $200 GamePad-less SKU ASAP in time for Mario Kart. Then it might rise above horrible-shit-sales and cross into deplorable-but-not-super-shitty-sales.
Title: Re: Lager-tan's Super-Depressing Sales Thread of Emotionally-Numbing Sales Sadness
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on April 18, 2014, 01:47:39 AM
Highest selling Wii U game this month:

Donkey Kong Country: Tropical Freeze - 84K
Title: Re: Lager-tan's Super-Depressing Sales Thread of Emotionally-Numbing Sales Sadness
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on April 18, 2014, 02:34:01 AM
Just imagine if they didn't add Cranky Kong though
Title: Re: Lager-tan's Super-Depressing Sales Thread of Emotionally-Numbing Sales Sadness
Post by: Takao on April 18, 2014, 03:18:30 AM
I don't think anyone thought indie games were going to save Vita, but if those people do exist, they deserve to be lumped in with the "PS4 will save traditional gaming in Japan" folks as a group no one should listen to.  It's pretty clear that SCEA, and likely all branches of SCE outside of Asia are done with Vita. Sony's over exuberance for indie support and Remote Play/PS Now always seemed like a "Welp" solution to me. They couldn't just abandon a platform whose userbase likely consists of the most hardcore of their fandom, but the numbers obviously aren't there for them to support it when they have a lot more PS4 users. So what do they do? Fund a bunch of low cost indie ports, and provide streaming services for those looking for games that had some money behind them. The scant few upcoming western SCE published titles support this. It's all really cheap outsourced stuff like Muarasaki Baby, or those PS2 ports. The platform has a sustainable ecosystem in Japan, so they can't just discontinue it either. Well, I guess they could but I can't imagine all of their third party partners being enthused about PS4 after having the rug pulled out from under them. There's plenty of other platforms for those companies to support in 2014.

And while Vita sales would still be horrifically terrible, it does need to be said that there is a supply problem. Some of the retailers near me have spaces for Vitas, but no Vitas, and it seems that's not isolated. It looks like SCEA hasn't shipped out new hardware in a few months, and have instead been waiting for their stock of 1000s to run dry. They either underestimated demand/overestimated their supplies, or Borderlands 2 kept them from releasing the Vita 2K earlier. This should mean that April's numbers will be even worse, as Vita 2K isn't hitting until May.
Title: Re: Lager-tan's Super-Depressing Sales Thread of Emotionally-Numbing Sales Sadness
Post by: Yeti on April 18, 2014, 04:07:25 AM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on April 18, 2014, 02:44:33 AM
the money left on the table by not having the ghost of wrinkly kong playable  :'(

When did Wrinkly Kong die?  :omg
Title: Re: Lager-tan's Super-Depressing Sales Thread of Emotionally-Numbing Sales Sadness
Post by: Third on April 18, 2014, 05:42:47 AM
Ps4 beat Xbox U during march?

I am SHOCKED  :lol :lol :lol

MS is so fucked. Bu bu Titanfall  :lol

Title: Re: Lager-tan's Super-Depressing Sales Thread of Emotionally-Numbing Sales Sadness
Post by: archnemesis on April 18, 2014, 05:45:18 AM
Did anyone put up a comparison table or plot with Titanfall against other popular shooters?
Title: Re: Lager-tan's Super-Depressing Sales Thread of Emotionally-Numbing Sales Sadness
Post by: Third on April 18, 2014, 05:47:03 AM
Titanfall came for free in basically every Xbox sold last month. So I don't think we can make a good comparison.
Title: Re: Lager-tan's Super-Depressing Sales Thread of Emotionally-Numbing Sales Sadness
Post by: SantaC on April 18, 2014, 06:51:51 AM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on April 17, 2014, 09:27:50 PM
Quote from: Rahxephon91 on April 17, 2014, 09:21:19 PM
So can we now say that the Titanfall hype was actually artificial hype?

Ehn, I think that's going a little far.  It's still the number one game this month, and it did alright.  Probably more accurate to say its hype as a system-selling exclusive a la Halo was overdone.

halo 1 wasnt on PC at the time of release though.
Title: Re: Lager-tan's Super-Depressing Sales Thread of Emotionally-Numbing Sales Sadness
Post by: thisismyusername on April 18, 2014, 06:55:53 AM
Quote from: Takao on April 18, 2014, 03:18:30 AM
I don't think anyone thought indie games were going to save Vita

Have you not seen most of GAF's resolution to hype the indies as something worth buying the system for? "Yeah, but why buy those titles on Steam for $.99-5. when you can pay $15 and get it PORTABLE!"  :zzz :zzz :zzz


Quote from: TalesofWin on April 18, 2014, 06:51:51 AM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on April 17, 2014, 09:27:50 PM
Quote from: Rahxephon91 on April 17, 2014, 09:21:19 PM
So can we now say that the Titanfall hype was actually artificial hype?

Ehn, I think that's going a little far.  It's still the number one game this month, and it did alright.  Probably more accurate to say its hype as a system-selling exclusive a la Halo was overdone.

halo 1 wasnt on PC at the time of release though.

That's true. But can we discount the PC release since it most likely doesn't report sales since no one is tracking digital distro platforms anyway?
Title: Re: Lager-tan's Super-Depressing Sales Thread of Emotionally-Numbing Sales Sadness
Post by: Takao on April 18, 2014, 10:17:36 AM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on April 18, 2014, 03:54:44 AM
oh, so vita's just supply constrained outside japan

that makes sense.

You know I didn't mean it like that. I already said that sales would still be pitifully low, but to say stock isn't a problem is ignoring the fact that stock (http://www.amazon.ca/Sony-Computer-Entertainment-22031-Hardware/dp/B003O6EATE/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1397829679&sr=8-3&keywords=PS+Vita) is (http://i.imgur.com/8r6oKWQ.png) low (http://www.amazon.com/PlayStation-Vita-Wifi/dp/B003O6EATE/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1397829859&sr=8-2&keywords=PS+Vita).

Quote from: thisismyusername on April 18, 2014, 06:55:53 AM
Have you not seen most of GAF's resolution to hype the indies as something worth buying the system for? "Yeah, but why buy those titles on Steam for $.99-5. when you can pay $15 and get it PORTABLE!"  :zzz :zzz :zzz

That's a different argument. People on a hardcore gaming forum suggesting that other like-minded people buy a Vita isn't surprising. The only time I've seen someone say that an indie game would sell Vitas to more than just NeoGAF is through a Minecraft bundle. It would, if people actually knew what a Vita is.
Title: Re: Lager-tan's Super-Depressing Sales Thread of Emotionally-Numbing Sales Sadness
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on April 18, 2014, 10:18:39 AM
i like how the xbots here have all left, they dont even wantt o try to defend this thing anymore rip maxy
Title: Re: Lager-tan's Super-Depressing Sales Thread of Emotionally-Numbing Sales Sadness
Post by: thisismyusername on April 18, 2014, 10:52:58 AM
Quote from: Takao on April 18, 2014, 10:17:36 AM
That's a different argument. People on a hardcore gaming forum suggesting that other like-minded people buy a Vita isn't surprising. The only time I've seen someone say that an indie game would sell Vitas to more than just NeoGAF is through a Minecraft bundle. It would, if people actually knew what a Vita is.

Sure, it's a different argument but it's still relevant: That's about the only thing Sony has been pushing and it's not working for the system. No one wants Indies as portable.

At this point, Sony's only hope is to stop blocking people from hacking their system; point them in a good direction to blow open the system and let the homebrew and piracy flow. It's the only way their system is gonna fly off shelves.

(BUT PIRACY!)

Yes. But given there's no damn support for the system at this point what do they have to lose?

Though, at the very least Atlus could at least spiff up the graphics of that Persona 4 side-game on 3DS and give to Sony fans since they're starved for JRPGs in the west on that system.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bs9Us_fistM

I mean look at that. :kobeyuck It's matching the P4G style but in N64 graphics. :kobeyuck
Title: Re: Lager-tan's Super-Depressing Sales Thread of Emotionally-Numbing Sales Sadness
Post by: Mupepe on April 18, 2014, 10:54:27 AM
Quote from: MyNameIsMethodis on April 18, 2014, 10:18:39 AM
i like how the xbots here have all left, they dont even wantt o try to defend this thing anymore rip maxy
I'm an xbot, bro. I love my xbone
Title: Re: Lager-tan's Super-Depressing Sales Thread of Emotionally-Numbing Sales Sadness
Post by: Tasty on April 18, 2014, 11:10:39 AM
Quote
Wii U: 70K (+4.5%)

Don't call it a comeback :rejoice

spoiler (click to show/hide)
Cause it's not :fbm
[close]
Title: Re: Lager-tan's Super-Depressing Sales Thread of Emotionally-Numbing Sales Sadness
Post by: Tasty on April 18, 2014, 11:13:08 AM
Quote from: Takao on April 18, 2014, 03:18:30 AM
And while Vita sales would still be horrifically terrible, it does need to be said that there is a supply problem. Some of the retailers near me have spaces for Vitas, but no Vitas, and it seems that's not isolated.
Quote from: Takao on April 18, 2014, 03:18:30 AM
They either underestimated demand/overestimated their supplies, or Borderlands 2 kept them from releasing the Vita 2K earlier.

:comeon

This is what, bargaining? You need to move onto acceptance, Taco.
Title: Re: Lager-tan's Super-Depressing Sales Thread of Emotionally-Numbing Sales Sadness
Post by: cool breeze on April 18, 2014, 11:33:57 AM
MGS Ground Zeroes sold 278k, ~74% on next gen (ps4 54%, xbox 20%).

don't know if they'll bother with a last gen version of phantom pain if it's expected to be late 2015 or later.
Title: Re: Lager-tan's Super-Depressing Sales Thread of Emotionally-Numbing Sales Sadness
Post by: Takao on April 18, 2014, 11:40:03 AM
Did you miss the first part of my post? I accepted that Vita was dead in North America a long time ago.
Title: Re: Lager-tan's Super-Depressing Sales Thread of Emotionally-Numbing Sales Sadness
Post by: SantaC on April 18, 2014, 03:25:51 PM
how much is gamecube outselling WiiU so far? And people called the GC a dead console  :lol
Title: Re: Lager-tan's Super-Depressing Sales Thread of Emotionally-Numbing Sales Sadness
Post by: Huff on April 18, 2014, 04:52:40 PM
The vita losing sales because a new one is coming out soon argument is pretty lulzy
Title: Re: Lager-tan's Super-Depressing Sales Thread of Emotionally-Numbing Sales Sadness
Post by: Rahxephon91 on April 18, 2014, 06:26:37 PM
I just bought a Vita. Seemed pretty easy to acquire one.
Title: Re: Lager-tan's Super-Depressing Sales Thread of Emotionally-Numbing Sales Sadness
Post by: Beezy on April 18, 2014, 07:07:16 PM
Do any of the improvements on that new Vita coming out make it the better buy than dat OLED?
Title: Re: Lager-tan's Super-Depressing Sales Thread of Emotionally-Numbing Sales Sadness
Post by: Beezy on April 18, 2014, 07:08:13 PM
dbl post smh
Title: Re: Lager-tan's Super-Depressing Sales Thread of Emotionally-Numbing Sales Sadness
Post by: Himu on April 18, 2014, 07:45:32 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on April 18, 2014, 07:37:17 PM
Love how the GameCube Hut excuses are starting to come out of the Xbot camp.

what's that?
Title: Re: Lager-tan's Super-Depressing Sales Thread of Emotionally-Numbing Sales Sadness
Post by: benjipwns on April 18, 2014, 07:59:41 PM
NOT EVERYTHING IS COUNTED IN NPD, REAL SALES ARE PROLLY 90% HIGHER

(http://i.imgur.com/0KOfrTz.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/uhmJqnH.png)
Title: Re: Lager-tan's Super-Depressing Sales Thread of Emotionally-Numbing Sales Sadness
Post by: benjipwns on April 18, 2014, 08:02:20 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/HnHHBSt.jpg)
Title: Re: Lager-tan's Super-Depressing Sales Thread of Emotionally-Numbing Sales Sadness
Post by: Himu on April 18, 2014, 08:03:55 PM
ahahahahaha
Title: Re: Lager-tan's Super-Depressing Sales Thread of Emotionally-Numbing Sales Sadness
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on April 18, 2014, 08:09:46 PM
I've heard that about the NPDs before from Jeff Gerstmann in private. Some of them really elieve it. Dirty xshits.
Title: Re: Lager-tan's Super-Depressing Sales Thread of Emotionally-Numbing Sales Sadness
Post by: Tasty on April 18, 2014, 10:13:07 PM
Quote from: benjipwns on April 18, 2014, 07:59:41 PM
NOT EVERYTHING IS COUNTED IN NPD, REAL SALES ARE PROLLY 90% HIGHER

(http://i.imgur.com/0KOfrTz.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/uhmJqnH.png)

Polygon writer shilling for MS? WHY I NEVER
Title: Re: Lager-tan's Super-Depressing Sales Thread of Emotionally-Numbing Sales Sadness
Post by: Trent Dole on April 18, 2014, 11:00:43 PM
Corporate cheerleaders.  :o :-X :-\
Title: Re: Lager-tan's Super-Depressing Sales Thread of Emotionally-Numbing Sales Sadness
Post by: archie4208 on April 18, 2014, 11:00:55 PM
Quote from: benjipwns on April 18, 2014, 07:59:41 PM
NOT EVERYTHING IS COUNTED IN NPD, REAL SALES ARE PROLLY 90% HIGHER

(http://i.imgur.com/0KOfrTz.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/uhmJqnH.png)

Ew.

Hearthstone.
Title: Re: Lager-tan's Super-Depressing Sales Thread of Emotionally-Numbing Sales Sadness
Post by: a slime appears on April 18, 2014, 11:10:40 PM
Quote from: archie4208 on April 18, 2014, 11:00:55 PM
Ew.

Hearthstone.
Ew.

Ben Kuchera.
Title: Re: Lager-tan's Super-Depressing Sales Thread of Emotionally-Numbing Sales Sadness
Post by: hampster on April 19, 2014, 12:09:00 AM
FFX HD outselling Lightning Returns in both US and Japan means we're getting FF12 HD right :hyper
Title: Re: Lager-tan's Super-Depressing Sales Thread of Emotionally-Numbing Sales Sadness
Post by: Himu on April 19, 2014, 01:30:46 AM
Still, it's good news, and hopefully the low sales of both XIII and X/X-2 HD sends a message.
Title: Re: Lager-tan's Super-Depressing Sales Thread of Emotionally-Numbing Sales Sadness
Post by: Trent Dole on April 19, 2014, 01:36:01 AM
Quote from: Formerly Known As Himuro on April 19, 2014, 01:30:46 AM
Still, it's good news, and hopefully the low sales of both XIII and X/X-2 HD sends a message.
What, make more handheld shit?
Title: Re: Lager-tan's Super-Depressing Sales Thread of Emotionally-Numbing Sales Sadness
Post by: Himu on April 19, 2014, 01:50:42 AM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on April 19, 2014, 01:43:54 AM
Quote from: Formerly Known As Himuro on April 19, 2014, 01:30:46 AM
Still, it's good news, and hopefully the low sales of both XIII and X/X-2 HD sends a message.

I think the message sent would be "Spend less making these things, pump them out more quickly", but that's just me.

Again, good thing.

FF has become a bloated, overly produced mess. Back in the day, I got three high quality FF's three years in a row. Spending less money on them is again, another win. Shelling them out quicker amid a generation when we were stuck with Lightning Derp Trilogy is even better.

FF fans win.

:heartbeat
Title: Re: Lager-tan's Super-Depressing Sales Thread of Emotionally-Numbing Sales Sadness
Post by: Rahxephon91 on April 19, 2014, 02:04:44 AM
Maybe they could bundle Type 0 with FFXII HD. I don't know.

I also don't agree with Himuro's stance. FF games have kind of been big productions since well 6 I guess. Relative to the times, 6-12 are pretty big jrpg productions. The difference of course is that it was easier to make those games, but clearly they've been getting longer to make relative to the time and effort the tech brings.

Quite honestly, since there are no other big budget jrpgs I kind of don't want FF to scale down. Though it may have to. Yet, I don't think the size of the production is whats effected the quality. It's not like 7,8,10, 12 weren't big productions either. XIII's problem was management and the shitty transition to HD development. Something it seems they are starting to get a hold of.

And I also don't need them one after another. FF's are big eventful games, so I don't need the brand to be diluted even further with annual side games. I could have easily been better off with less polished grab bags that are the XIII's sequels. Would have rather taken one 15 on PS3 over two XIII sequels. I would be nice if Square had other jrpg series to rotate in, but yeah..
Title: Re: Lager-tan's Super-Depressing Sales Thread of Emotionally-Numbing Sales Sadness
Post by: Himu on April 19, 2014, 02:05:16 AM
Well, all we can do is see what happens from here, but I think the future is bright for the series. They seem to be engaging fans and rectifying their fuck ups from the past gen.
Title: Re: Lager-tan's Super-Depressing Sales Thread of Emotionally-Numbing Sales Sadness
Post by: Himu on April 19, 2014, 02:08:08 AM
Quote from: Rahxephon91 on April 19, 2014, 02:04:44 AM
Maybe they could bundle Type 0 with FFXII HD. I don't know.

I also don't agree with Himuro's stance. FF games have kind of been big productions since well 6 I guess. Relative to the times, 6-12 are pretty big jrpg productions. The difference of course is that it was easier to make those games, but clearly they've been getting longer to make relative to the time and effort the tech brings.

Quite honestly, since there are no other big budget jrpgs I kind of don't want FF to scale down. Though it may have to. Yet, I don't think the size of the production is whats effected the quality. It's not like 7,8,10, 12 weren't big productions either. XIII's problem was management and the shitty transition to HD development. Something it seems they are starting to get a hold of.

And I also don't need them one after another. FF's are big eventful games. I don't need one right after each other.

Well, last regular number single player non-sequel FF release was in 2009. It's 2014. That was five years ago. There is no excuse. Final Fantasy deserves to have a much better release schedule than that, and Square Enix as a company needs it as well, since they subsist on Final Fantasy.

As for production, lower production values does not mean ugly. If you think FF will suddenly look like an Atlus game, I don't think you'll have to worry about that.

And lastly, modern FF budgets are not sustainable. The budgets will only rise, and as noted in last generation, jrpgs have hit their cap. FF continuing to go with the crowd of AAA development is not survivable nor healthy.
Title: Re: Lager-tan's Super-Depressing Sales Thread of Emotionally-Numbing Sales Sadness
Post by: Takao on April 19, 2014, 02:44:36 AM
How much of Revenant Wings can Square Enix/Outsource Studio remake with the PS2 game's assets?
Title: Re: Lager-tan's Super-Depressing Sales Thread of Emotionally-Numbing Sales Sadness
Post by: Himu on April 19, 2014, 02:51:09 AM
I'm not sure RW would work without a stylus. Rah is right. Make an FF Type 0 HD as part of the collection. Since they did that with those KH games I think they'll do the same thing with Type 0.
Title: Re: Lager-tan's Super-Depressing Sales Thread of Emotionally-Numbing Sales Sadness
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on April 19, 2014, 03:53:30 AM
Why can't they go back to making FF like in the 32 bit age.

Pre rendered backgrounds etc.

That would look gorgeous in HD and it wouldn't cost that much money either!
Title: Re: Lager-tan's Super-Depressing Sales Thread of Emotionally-Numbing Sales Sadness
Post by: AdmiralViscen on April 19, 2014, 07:30:31 AM
Yea, they could source them from google maps
Title: Re: Lager-tan's Super-Depressing Sales Thread of Emotionally-Numbing Sales Sadness
Post by: magus on April 19, 2014, 08:10:33 AM
Quote from: Lagerless on April 19, 2014, 03:53:30 AM
Why can't they go back to making FF like in the 32 bit age.

Pre rendered backgrounds etc.

That would look gorgeous in HD and it wouldn't cost that much money either!

before going back to make a FF like in the 32 bit age, they should go back to make FF game in the first place
Title: Re: Lager-tan's Super-Depressing Sales Thread of Emotionally-Numbing Sales Sadness
Post by: MCD on April 19, 2014, 08:52:05 AM
Quote from: AdmiralViscen on April 19, 2014, 07:30:31 AM
Yea, they could source them from google maps
worked for resistance!
Title: Re: Lager-tan's Super-Depressing Sales Thread of Emotionally-Numbing Sales Sadness
Post by: a slime appears on April 19, 2014, 10:19:23 AM
Quote from: magus on April 19, 2014, 08:10:33 AM
Quote from: Lagerless on April 19, 2014, 03:53:30 AM
Why can't they go back to making FF like in the 32 bit age.

Pre rendered backgrounds etc.

That would look gorgeous in HD and it wouldn't cost that much money either!

before going back to make a FF like in the 32 bit age, they should go back to make FF game in the first place

I laff'd
Title: Re: Lager-tan's Super-Depressing Sales Thread of Emotionally-Numbing Sales Sadness
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on April 20, 2014, 04:09:29 PM
I dont get it
Title: Re: Lager-tan's Super-Depressing Sales Thread of Emotionally-Numbing Sales Sadness
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on April 20, 2014, 04:27:14 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/qSWzny2.jpg)
Title: Re: Lager-tan's Super-Depressing Sales Thread of Emotionally-Numbing Sales Sadness
Post by: Rufus on April 20, 2014, 04:43:32 PM
The only thing I get from that is that AAA is fucked beyond saving.

Quote from: Lagerless on April 20, 2014, 04:09:29 PM
I dont get it
The excuse for FF13 being Tempest-RPG without any towns was that it was difficult to do in HD, i.e. SE was/is so in-efficient that they couldn't afford to have any.
Title: Re: Lager-tan's Super-Depressing Sales Thread of Emotionally-Numbing Sales Sadness
Post by: Himu on April 20, 2014, 04:47:43 PM
Post a release calendar full of :zzz worthy AAA games no one here is going to play brehs
Title: Re: Lager-tan's Super-Depressing Sales Thread of Emotionally-Numbing Sales Sadness
Post by: SantaC on April 20, 2014, 05:22:41 PM
would gotten a PS4 if it was backwards compatible. But nope, guess I gotta hold onto my PS3 for Persona 5, Tales of Xilila 2 and Tales of Zesteria.

So many good jrpgs left to buy.
Title: Re: Lager-tan's Super-Depressing Sales Thread of Emotionally-Numbing Sales Sadness
Post by: Rahxephon91 on April 20, 2014, 05:29:59 PM
Transistor should be pretty damn good. It sure looks colorful.
Title: Re: Lager-tan's Super-Depressing Sales Thread of Emotionally-Numbing Sales Sadness
Post by: Shaka Khan on April 20, 2014, 05:38:22 PM
Bastion was a beautiful snorefest. Expecting the same out of Transistor.
Title: Re: Lager-tan's Super-Depressing Sales Thread of Emotionally-Numbing Sales Sadness
Post by: Raban on April 20, 2014, 05:45:14 PM
I hope that's not the case, but I'm not holding my breath.
Title: Re: Lager-tan's Super-Depressing Sales Thread of Emotionally-Numbing Sales Sadness
Post by: hampster on April 20, 2014, 05:52:01 PM
With Child of Light at the end of the month and Transistor in May, its a good time to be a person who enjoys shallow yet exceptionally pretty games :)
Title: Re: Lager-tan's Super-Depressing Sales Thread of Emotionally-Numbing Sales Sadness
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on April 20, 2014, 05:53:33 PM
Bastion was horrible.

That narrator  :yuck
Title: Re: Lager-tan's Super-Depressing Sales Thread of Emotionally-Numbing Sales Sadness
Post by: Shaka Khan on April 20, 2014, 06:00:16 PM
Quote from: hampster on April 20, 2014, 05:52:01 PM
With Child of Light at the end of the month and Transistor in May, its a good time to be a person who enjoys shallow yet exceptionally pretty games :)

Pretty much.
Title: Re: Lager-tan's Super-Depressing Sales Thread of Emotionally-Numbing Sales Sadness
Post by: MCD on April 20, 2014, 06:21:15 PM
Quote from: Lagerless on April 20, 2014, 04:27:14 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/qSWzny2.jpg)
Quality over quantity.
Title: Re: Lager-tan's Super-Depressing Sales Thread of Emotionally-Numbing Sales Sadness
Post by: magus on April 20, 2014, 07:10:20 PM
Quote from: Lagerless on April 20, 2014, 05:53:33 PM
Bastion was horrible.

That narrator  :yuck

THE POSTER POSTED A VULGAR IMPRESSION OF AN INDIE GAME, HE GOT REPLIED WITH AN UNFUNNY ATTEMPT AT PARODY
Title: Re: Lager-tan's Super-Depressing Sales Thread of Emotionally-Numbing Sales Sadness
Post by: archie4208 on April 20, 2014, 07:11:36 PM
PS4 gets a bunch of Steam sloppy seconds.  Woohoo.

Quote from: Lagerless on April 20, 2014, 05:53:33 PM
Bastion was horrible.

That narrator  :yuck

I spent more money on the Bastion announcer for Dota 2 than the actual game.   :goty2
Title: Re: Lager-tan's Super-Depressing Sales Thread of Emotionally-Numbing Sales Sadness
Post by: Takao on April 20, 2014, 07:19:33 PM
Is Wolfestein a shooter with Doge's cousin???
Title: Re: Lager-tan's Super-Depressing Sales Thread of Emotionally-Numbing Sales Sadness
Post by: Great Rumbler on April 20, 2014, 07:24:35 PM
Quote from: Takao on April 20, 2014, 07:19:33 PM
Is Wolfestein a shooter with Doge's cousin???

Yes.
Title: Re: Lager-tan's Super-Depressing Sales Thread of Emotionally-Numbing Sales Sadness
Post by: tiesto on April 20, 2014, 08:38:01 PM
I've only played the demo of Bastion... didn't seem that bad but wasn't too compelling. When it comes to indie XBLA games that are 2D and heavily inspired by Japanese action RPGs, I had more fun with the Wakfu demo :P

Is it even worth it to play Bastion at this point?
Title: Re: Lager-tan's Super-Depressing Sales Thread of Emotionally-Numbing Sales Sadness
Post by: Mr. Gundam on April 20, 2014, 08:40:00 PM
Still nothing on either system that I want.

Hooray for the PS3 still seeing lots of future releases.
Title: Re: Lager-tan's Super-Depressing Sales Thread of Emotionally-Numbing Sales Sadness
Post by: Mupepe on April 20, 2014, 09:36:32 PM
I got rid of my ps4 yesterday. I was offered more than what I paid and I hadn't turned it on in weeks. Nothing except ff xiv is coming out for it that I can't get on the x1. I guess I'm back to being just an xbot again
Title: Re: Lager-tan's Super-Depressing Sales Thread of Emotionally-Numbing Sales Sadness
Post by: cool breeze on April 20, 2014, 10:38:51 PM
Quote from: Mr. Gundam on April 20, 2014, 08:40:00 PM
Still nothing on either system that I want.

Hooray for the PS3 still seeing lots of future releases.

I already have a PS4 and there's only Destiny that interests me this year, and I'd much rather play it on PC.

first years tend to be shaky (wii excluded, being an extension of the gamecube) but it seems worse this time around.
Title: Re: Lager-tan's Super-Depressing Sales Thread of Emotionally-Numbing Sales Sadness
Post by: DCharlieJP on April 21, 2014, 01:53:00 AM
The Show, give me The Show.

Now.
Title: Re: Lager-tan's Super-Depressing Sales Thread of Emotionally-Numbing Sales Sadness
Post by: a slime appears on April 21, 2014, 08:51:02 AM
There's no software available on the new systems that make them worth buying and there won't be until this holiday. I own and both next-gen systems but even then I cannot recommend the console to anyone and my livelihood depends on their success.

That's actually pretty disconcerting, I think.
Title: Re: Lager-tan's Super-Depressing Sales Thread of Emotionally-Numbing Sales Sadness
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on April 21, 2014, 12:50:45 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on April 21, 2014, 09:59:32 AM
The first year usually belongs to interesting B-games while the big boys are winding up.  Retail console B-games are mostly dead now, so this is the outcome.

interesting B-games are all on mobile now
I mean, something like Monument Valley would have been XBLA wankery just 5 years ago
and have you PLAYED Hitman Go?
Title: Re: Lager-tan's Super-Depressing Sales Thread of Emotionally-Numbing Sales Sadness
Post by: Himu on April 21, 2014, 01:37:26 PM
Monument Valley is basically Echochrome: The Colorful Ripoff, so the comparison to xbla wankery really isn't off the mark.

PS4 still doesn't have an exclusive racing game out. Racing games on new console tradition. That is how far we have fallen.
Title: Re: Lager-tan's Super-Depressing Sales Thread of Emotionally-Numbing Sales Sadness
Post by: cool breeze on April 21, 2014, 01:37:58 PM
360 still had some notable "next gen" games during its first months, like Oblivion and GRAW, and before the PS3 released.

other than launch games and infamous, ps4 and xbox one are dead until maybe august, depending on what's shown at E3.  for multiplatform next gen games I think there's only Batman in fall.
Title: Re: Lager-tan's Super-Depressing Sales Thread of Emotionally-Numbing Sales Sadness
Post by: Takao on April 21, 2014, 01:40:54 PM
something like Monument Valley would've been echochrome five years ago
Title: Re: Lager-tan's Super-Depressing Sales Thread of Emotionally-Numbing Sales Sadness
Post by: Himu on April 21, 2014, 01:48:15 PM
Mobile is catching up in quality, and fast.

Also, I kinda disagree with Oscar about the B games being big in the first year. Then again, I usually buy systems on year 2 or year 3 when there's games I want out. Like, I know with ps2, there was nothing out for a long time. ZOE1 came out a full year after ps2 came out. There was Tekken Tag Tournament and that came out in Ocotober 2000, but Onimusha also came out March 2001, Dark Cloud came out in May 2001. I don't think ps2 was worth buying until summer 2001, and by 2002 it was must have as all the big boys came out Fall 2001.

So it took ps2 roughly a year and a half to get going, from March 2000 to September 2001 (when Devil May Cry came out).

I think realistically speaking, we shouldn't expect the new consoles to be good until like 2015 at the bare minimum.
Title: Re: Lager-tan's Super-Depressing Sales Thread of Emotionally-Numbing Sales Sadness
Post by: a slime appears on April 21, 2014, 02:14:48 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on April 21, 2014, 09:59:32 AM
The first year usually belongs to interesting B-games while the big boys are winding up.  Retail console B-games are mostly dead now, so this is the outcome.

I'd say what we're getting are A-studios working on B-games because there's no time or budget for the platform holders to authorize those kinds of expenses early on. ALSO A LOT OF PORTS.

What we're really seeing are third party publishers, usually on-board with every new generation, really taking a step back and asking themselves if the cost investment is worth releasing a game for a ridiculously small pool of people. They've been enjoying a massive consumer base for years, why shift gears suddenly?

Also I find it hilarious that the "handheld ghetto" publishing strategy has taken over the game industry. What used to be a secret to getting rich quick to fund your big console games is now the status quo for the publishing community at large.
Title: Re: Lager-tan's Super-Depressing Sales Thread of Emotionally-Numbing Sales Sadness
Post by: Mr. Gundam on April 21, 2014, 06:40:21 PM
There's not even a shitty Gundam game out for the PS4. Just a nebulous announcement of one coming sometime in the future. That would get me to buy a PS4.
Title: Re: Lager-tan's Super-Depressing Sales Thread of Emotionally-Numbing Sales Sadness
Post by: Tasty on April 21, 2014, 08:37:45 PM
This "it needs to sell 10 mil copies or we don't greenlight it" mentality of the pubs is getting incredibly annoying.
Title: Re: Lager-tan's Super-Depressing Sales Thread of Emotionally-Numbing Sales Sadness
Post by: Tasty on April 21, 2014, 09:06:12 PM
Well that's more to my point. Stop giving a small number of games huge budgets, pubs. Make more games with smaller budgets instead. Less risk, more diversity. Everyone wins! Other than dudebros of course. Fuck dudebros.
Title: Re: Lager-tan's Super-Depressing Sales Thread of Emotionally-Numbing Sales Sadness
Post by: Rufus on April 21, 2014, 09:30:51 PM
They buy a lot of games, unfortunately. Live by the dudebro, die by the dudebro.
Title: Re: Lager-tan's Super-Depressing Sales Thread of Emotionally-Numbing Sales Sadness
Post by: Takao on April 21, 2014, 10:03:13 PM
Oh man, ATV Offroad Fury. That's a blast from the past. Sony released a tonne of those.
Title: Re: Lager-tan's Super-Depressing Sales Thread of Emotionally-Numbing Sales Sadness
Post by: Great Rumbler on April 21, 2014, 10:05:35 PM
So far, I've been enjoying small budget games more than the one big budget game I played this year [Thief].
Title: Re: Lager-tan's Super-Depressing Sales Thread of Emotionally-Numbing Sales Sadness
Post by: Tasty on April 21, 2014, 10:10:24 PM
Quote from: Great Rumbler on April 21, 2014, 10:05:35 PM
So far, I've been enjoying small budget games more than the one big budget game I played this year [Thief].

I'd question the tastes of anyone for whom this wasn't the case.

Indies. :rejoice
Title: Re: Lager-tan's Super-Depressing Sales Thread of Emotionally-Numbing Sales Sadness
Post by: Human Snorenado on April 21, 2014, 10:25:20 PM
Quote from: Great Rumbler on April 21, 2014, 10:05:35 PM
So far, I've been enjoying small budget games more than the one big budget game I played this year [Thief].

I generally enjoy sampling from the pupu platter of small budget indie shit, but I've found that I need a "lifestyle" type game to sink a shit ton of grinding time into. Shit like D3, PAD, possibly MLB the Show.
Title: Re: Lager-tan's Super-Depressing Sales Thread of Emotionally-Numbing Sales Sadness
Post by: Raban on April 21, 2014, 10:36:25 PM
Quote from: Tasty Meat on April 21, 2014, 10:10:24 PM
Quote from: Great Rumbler on April 21, 2014, 10:05:35 PM
So far, I've been enjoying small budget games more than the one big budget game I played this year [Thief].

I'd question the tastes of anyone for whom this wasn't the case.

Indies. :rejoice
I was gonna list how I'm an exception to this but then I remembered you, and nearly everyone on this board, already question my taste so I guess I don't need to bother :lol
Title: Re: Lager-tan's Super-Depressing Sales Thread of Emotionally-Numbing Sales Sadness
Post by: Takao on April 21, 2014, 10:36:44 PM
A trend I've noticed to start off this gen are boxed releases of things that should be DD-only. Apparently there are physical PS4 versions of The Pinball Arcade, Putty Squad, and Trials Fusion. The latter might do decently because of the brand, but I don't know why anyone thought the first two should be on a BD.
Title: Re: Lager-tan's Super-Depressing Sales Thread of Emotionally-Numbing Sales Sadness
Post by: Tasty on April 21, 2014, 10:38:42 PM
Quote from: Creepy Old Guy on April 21, 2014, 10:25:20 PM
Quote from: Great Rumbler on April 21, 2014, 10:05:35 PM
So far, I've been enjoying small budget games more than the one big budget game I played this year [Thief].

I generally enjoy sampling from the pupu platter of small budget indie shit, but I've found that I need a "lifestyle" type game to sink a shit ton of grinding time into. Shit like D3, PAD, possibly MLB the Show.

Agree with this. Monhan and Pokemans :rejoice
Title: Re: Lager-tan's Super-Depressing Sales Thread of Emotionally-Numbing Sales Sadness
Post by: headwalk on April 21, 2014, 10:39:35 PM
Quote from: Creepy Old Guy on April 21, 2014, 10:25:20 PM
Quote from: Great Rumbler on April 21, 2014, 10:05:35 PM
So far, I've been enjoying small budget games more than the one big budget game I played this year [Thief].

I generally enjoy sampling from the pupu platter of small budget indie shit, but I've found that I need a "lifestyle" type game to sink a shit ton of grinding time into. Shit like D3, PAD, possibly MLB the Show.

i have migratory paths for which game i dump the majority of my time in to. it was dota until a month or two ago when me and my friends all started finding our way back to counterstrike and i've never been happier.

it just never stops giving.
Title: Re: Lager-tan's Super-Depressing Sales Thread of Emotionally-Numbing Sales Sadness
Post by: Human Snorenado on April 21, 2014, 10:50:40 PM
Quote from: Tasty Meat on April 21, 2014, 10:38:42 PM
Quote from: Creepy Old Guy on April 21, 2014, 10:25:20 PM
Quote from: Great Rumbler on April 21, 2014, 10:05:35 PM
So far, I've been enjoying small budget games more than the one big budget game I played this year [Thief].

I generally enjoy sampling from the pupu platter of small budget indie shit, but I've found that I need a "lifestyle" type game to sink a shit ton of grinding time into. Shit like D3, PAD, possibly MLB the Show.

Agree with this. Monhan and Pokemans :rejoice

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-OUJxBHMQVQU/T0dpusx0keI/AAAAAAAAAzA/7BSF2qT388w/s200/colbert-shaking-head.gif)
Title: Re: Lager-tan's Super-Depressing Sales Thread of Emotionally-Numbing Sales Sadness
Post by: Tasty on April 21, 2014, 10:55:10 PM
Embrace your inner :expert
Title: Re: Lager-tan's Super-Depressing Sales Thread of Emotionally-Numbing Sales Sadness
Post by: Himu on April 22, 2014, 03:49:03 AM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on April 21, 2014, 08:28:25 PM

Quote from: Formerly Known As Himuro on April 21, 2014, 01:48:15 PM
Mobile is catching up in quality, and fast.

Also, I kinda disagree with Oscar about the B games being big in the first year. Then again, I usually buy systems on year 2 or year 3 when there's games I want out. Like, I know with ps2, there was nothing out for a long time. ZOE1 came out a full year after ps2 came out. There was Tekken Tag Tournament and that came out in Ocotober 2000, but Onimusha also came out March 2001, Dark Cloud came out in May 2001. I don't think ps2 was worth buying until summer 2001, and by 2002 it was must have as all the big boys came out Fall 2001.

So it took ps2 roughly a year and a half to get going, from March 2000 to September 2001 (when Devil May Cry came out).

I think realistically speaking, we shouldn't expect the new consoles to be good until like 2015 at the bare minimum.

I never said they were big.  I said that it's what people survived on in year one of prior gens.  For example, on PS2, stuff like Smuggler's Run, Red Faction, Timesplitters, Kessen, ATV Off-road Fury, Ring of Red, MDK2, and so on.  All decent B-games that helped plug the gaps between bigger releases, which is something we obviously don't have happening this time.  Was it worth buying for those?  Probably not, but if you had the console already, they were worth buying.

Like, I don't know what you're disagreeing with here.  B-games have almost died out as retail products on consoles, that's pretty much a fact.  B-games give people something to play in the absence of A-games, not really arguable.  The first year of a system's release is usually short on A-games, also a fact.

They were important for plugging holes, which is how something like Smuggler's Run ends up selling over 600k.  They're not here now, so things feel more empty for day one owners.

true enough.

b-games are extremely lacking these days. I forgot about Smuggler's Run.
Title: Re: Lager-tan's Super-Depressing Sales Thread of Emotionally-Numbing Sales Sadness
Post by: Himu on April 22, 2014, 04:05:45 AM
I think there's more choice than ever with games these days. I don't like most AAA games, so I don't play AAA games. For my tastes, most of my most played games this gen have been dd. Mobile is starting to pick up too and I'll probably be mobile only for a few months sometimes next year looking at its current trajectory with a few console helpings. :yeshrug
Title: Re: Lager-tan's Super-Depressing Sales Thread of Emotionally-Numbing Sales Sadness
Post by: Himu on April 22, 2014, 04:29:04 AM
I forgot bout all those games. Yeah, ps4/xbox one schedule is nothing like that. Wow.
Title: Re: Lager-tan's Super-Depressing Sales Thread of Emotionally-Numbing Sales Sadness
Post by: Himu on April 22, 2014, 11:23:27 AM
Definitely not disputing that.
Title: Re: Lager-tan's Super-Depressing Sales Thread of Emotionally-Numbing Sales Sadness
Post by: headwalk on April 22, 2014, 02:09:08 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on April 22, 2014, 05:40:03 AM
Quote from: Formerly Known As Himuro on April 22, 2014, 04:05:45 AM
I think there's more choice than ever with games these days. I don't like most AAA games, so I don't play AAA games. For my tastes, most of my most played games this gen have been dd. Mobile is starting to pick up too and I'll probably be mobile only for a few months sometimes next year looking at its current trajectory with a few console helpings. :yeshrug

more choice than ever, but it's also scattered across more platforms than ever.  it's kind of a problem situation.

i have more choice than ever on a single platform.

gaming will sort itself out, it's proprietary gaming devices that are fucked.
Title: Re: Lager-tan's Super-Depressing Sales Thread of Emotionally-Numbing Sales Sadness
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on April 22, 2014, 03:19:41 PM
Spread across platforms but seriously dudes:

1. You have a phone
2. You have a pc/laptop

So it's not so bad.
Title: Re: Lager-tan's Super-Depressing Sales Thread of Emotionally-Numbing Sales Sadness
Post by: archie4208 on April 24, 2014, 08:03:42 PM
The PC version of Dark Souls 2 seems to be selling pretty well. (http://i.imgur.com/cA59jS4.png)
Title: Re: Lager-tan's Super-Depressing Sales Thread of Emotionally-Numbing Sales Sadness
Post by: thisismyusername on April 25, 2014, 12:05:32 AM
Quote from: archie4208 on April 24, 2014, 08:03:42 PM
The PC version of Dark Souls 2 seems to be selling pretty well. (http://i.imgur.com/cA59jS4.png)

PC wins again, suck it Console fegs.

No, but really: I'm wondering how many of those are PC people that waited, how many are double-dippers/"superior version" and how many are "GfWL EW" people that bought it due to steamworks.

Still, good brisk first-day player count for them. Hopefully it goes higher over the course of the week and even higher during sales.
Title: Re: Lager-tan's Super-Depressing Sales Thread of Emotionally-Numbing Sales Sadness
Post by: archie4208 on April 25, 2014, 11:04:38 AM
I think the playerbase will peak after this weekend.  It's still primarily a single player game.  But ~60k concurrents is pretty crazy, especially considering DS1 peaked at 10k.  (Granted that was a late and godawful port).
Title: Re: Lager-tan's Super-Depressing Sales Thread of Emotionally-Numbing Sales Sadness
Post by: Great Rumbler on April 25, 2014, 05:15:22 PM
Quote from: archie4208 on April 25, 2014, 11:04:38 AM
I think the playerbase will peak after this weekend.  It's still primarily a single player game.  But ~60k concurrents is pretty crazy, especially considering DS1 peaked at 10k.  (Granted that was a late and godawful port).

The PC version of DS1 sold around 300k.

And DS2 has peaked at 68k concurrent so far today.
Title: Re: Lager-tan's Super-Depressing Sales Thread of Emotionally-Numbing Sales Sadness
Post by: Pringo on April 25, 2014, 05:20:29 PM
Quote from: Great Rumbler on April 25, 2014, 05:15:22 PM
Quote from: archie4208 on April 25, 2014, 11:04:38 AM
I think the playerbase will peak after this weekend.  It's still primarily a single player game.  But ~60k concurrents is pretty crazy, especially considering DS1 peaked at 10k.  (Granted that was a late and godawful port).

The PC version of DS1 sold around 300k.

You're way off here. It sold approximately 1.3 million on PC.

http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2014/04/steam-gauge-addressing-your-questions-and-concerns/2/
Title: Re: Lager-tan's Super-Depressing Sales Thread of Emotionally-Numbing Sales Sadness
Post by: Great Rumbler on April 25, 2014, 05:31:51 PM
The last official numbers said that the game, overall, had sold 2.37 million worldwide as of April 2013 [the PC version was August 2012]. So, either Ars Technica's estimate is way off, or it sold a lot more copies on Steam between April 2013 and now. Maybe Oscar's got more details, but that's all I can dig up.
Title: Re: Lager-tan's Super-Depressing Sales Thread of Emotionally-Numbing Sales Sadness
Post by: Pringo on April 25, 2014, 05:40:56 PM
Quote from: Great Rumbler on April 25, 2014, 05:31:51 PM
or it sold a lot more copies on Steam between April 2013 and now

I think that's quite possible. The game was on sale for $5.99 a few times between April 2013 and now where I'm assuming it sold quite a few copies.

http://www.steamprices.com/us/app/211420/dark-souls-prepare-to-die-edition
Title: Re: Lager-tan's Super-Depressing Sales Thread of Emotionally-Numbing Sales Sadness
Post by: archie4208 on May 01, 2014, 09:42:32 PM
DayZ sells 2 million in less than 6 months. (https://twitter.com/rocket2guns/status/461940058791354368)
Title: Re: Lager-tan's Super-Depressing Sales Thread of Emotionally-Numbing Sales Sadness
Post by: Great Rumbler on May 01, 2014, 10:18:57 PM
And it still hasn't even been officially released yet.
Title: Re: X-tan's Super-Depressing Sales Thread of Emotionally-Numbing Sales Sadness
Post by: Pringo on May 15, 2014, 06:46:38 PM
April 2014 NPD

(http://abload.de/img/titanfall-on-top-for-h6dmh.jpg)

 Notes:
-"PS4 software combined with Xbox One software sales are up over 40 percent compared to sales of the PS3 and Xbox 360 through their first six months. Wii U software sales were up over last year by over 80 percent," said NPD analyst Liam Callahan.
-Xbox One has an attach rate of 3.
-Xbox One sold 447,000 games.
-Xbox 360 sold 2.2 million games.
-The Xbox One and Xbox 360 combined accounted for 53% of all software sales.


Hardware:

Xbox One: 115K
Xbox 360: 71K

Notes:
-"Life to date, sales of PS4 and Xbox One hardware have more than doubled the combined sales of PS3 and 360 hardware through their first six months of sales,” said NPD analyst Liam Callahan.
-"Xbox One continues to outpace Xbox 360 sales in the same historical time period by selling over 76 percent more units in the first six months on the market." - Microsoft
Title: Re: X-tan's Super-Depressing Sales Thread of Emotionally-Numbing Sales Sadness
Post by: Steve Contra on May 15, 2014, 06:52:08 PM
I'm guessing by the position Minecraft is in software sales are  :paul
Title: Re: X-tan's Super-Depressing Sales Thread of Emotionally-Numbing Sales Sadness
Post by: Himu on May 15, 2014, 06:53:22 PM
Hahaha, that month is hilariously :trash

Xbox One 115K
Xbox 360: 71K
:lol :rofl :dead

That low? And that's the majority of what was bought?
Title: Re: X-tan's Super-Depressing Sales Thread of Emotionally-Numbing Sales Sadness
Post by: cool breeze on May 15, 2014, 07:03:07 PM
Quote from: Steve Contra on May 15, 2014, 06:52:08 PM
I'm guessing by the position Minecraft is in software sales are  :paul

allegedly infamous is the top selling next gen game and absent from the top ten.  so probably.
Title: Re: X-tan's Super-Depressing Sales Thread of Emotionally-Numbing Sales Sadness
Post by: The Sceneman on May 15, 2014, 07:33:04 PM
good god that NPD

(http://i.imgur.com/5mPQjR9.gif)

Consoles are doneburgers
Title: Re: X-tan's Super-Depressing Sales Thread of Emotionally-Numbing Sales Sadness
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on May 15, 2014, 07:42:01 PM
Wait for Titanfall
Title: Re: X-tan's Super-Depressing Sales Thread of Emotionally-Numbing Sales Sadness
Post by: Joe Molotov on May 15, 2014, 07:45:00 PM
3 Lego games and Minecraft, we've reached the event spergrizon.
Title: Re: X-tan's Super-Depressing Sales Thread of Emotionally-Numbing Sales Sadness
Post by: archie4208 on May 15, 2014, 07:52:44 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on May 15, 2014, 07:04:24 PM
And Xbone is the 2nd highest selling hardware with that 115k. 

But I'm sure everything's fine.

Tencent made $1 billion profit last quarter.

Sony lost $1 billion

Times are a changin'
Title: Re: X-tan's Super-Depressing Sales Thread of Emotionally-Numbing Sales Sadness
Post by: Great Rumbler on May 15, 2014, 07:55:36 PM
Still a few seats left on the Kickstarter train. Better hurry, though. :hitler :smug
Title: Re: X-tan's Super-Depressing Sales Thread of Emotionally-Numbing Sales Sadness
Post by: HyperZoneWasAwesome on May 15, 2014, 07:58:20 PM
in Sony's money-bleeding annual report they mentioned that their console sales were down 45% from 2008.

in 2008 Sony had a lagging third place console, the losing-momentum PSP, and a moribund PS2.

I mean, shit, ouch, and all that.
Title: Re: X-tan's Super-Depressing Sales Thread of Emotionally-Numbing Sales Sadness
Post by: fizzel on May 15, 2014, 08:00:15 PM
 :lol
Title: Re: X-tan's Super-Depressing Sales Thread of Emotionally-Numbing Sales Sadness
Post by: Himu on May 15, 2014, 08:01:02 PM
RIP consoles (http://i.imgur.com/kLvr3iR.jpg)
Title: Re: X-tan's Super-Depressing Sales Thread of Emotionally-Numbing Sales Sadness
Post by: The Sceneman on May 15, 2014, 08:01:23 PM
Quote from: HyperZoneWasAwesome on May 15, 2014, 07:58:20 PM
in Sony's money-bleeding annual report they mentioned that their console sales were down 45% from 2008.

in 2008 Sony had a lagging third place console, the losing-momentum PSP, and a moribund PS2.

I mean, shit, ouch, and all that.

(http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/196frnnzysficgif/original.gif)
Title: Re: X-tan's Super-Depressing Sales Thread of Emotionally-Numbing Sales Sadness
Post by: MCD on May 15, 2014, 08:11:29 PM
PS4 sales is fud. X1 is more real.
Title: Re: X-tan's Super-Depressing Sales Thread of Emotionally-Numbing Sales Sadness
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on May 15, 2014, 08:11:38 PM
Some quick back of the box math...

Xbox One sold 115k in April.
Analysts estimate that Apple sold 38.2 million iPhones last quarter, which averages out to 12.7 million per month.
That means iPhone is outselling Xbox One at a rate of 100+-to-1.

Imagine that you're a developer trying to determine what platform to make games for. What do YOU choose?
Title: Re: X-tan's Super-Depressing Sales Thread of Emotionally-Numbing Sales Sadness
Post by: Himu on May 15, 2014, 08:15:34 PM
Quote from: Howard Alan Treesong on May 15, 2014, 08:11:38 PM
Some quick back of the box math...

Xbox One sold 115k in April.
Analysts estimate that Apple sold 38.2 million iPhones last quarter, which averages out to 12.7 million per month.
That means iPhone is outselling Xbox One at a rate of 100+-to-1.

Imagine that you're a developer trying to determine what platform to make games for. What do YOU choose?

Ps4. DUH.

I mean, it's pretty obvious.
Title: Re: X-tan's Super-Depressing Sales Thread of Emotionally-Numbing Sales Sadness
Post by: MCD on May 15, 2014, 08:21:46 PM
X1.

selling a game for $60 + micro transaction is more profitable than one hit wonders in iOS crowded scene.
Title: Re: X-tan's Super-Depressing Sales Thread of Emotionally-Numbing Sales Sadness
Post by: cool breeze on May 15, 2014, 08:30:43 PM
Quote from: Howard Alan Treesong on May 15, 2014, 08:11:38 PM
Some quick back of the box math...

Xbox One sold 115k in April.
Analysts estimate that Apple sold 38.2 million iPhones last quarter, which averages out to 12.7 million per month.
That means iPhone is outselling Xbox One at a rate of 100+-to-1.

Imagine that you're a developer trying to determine what platform to make games for. What do YOU choose?

but Xbox One is a nice console.  why do consumers always go for mobile devices  :-\
Title: Re: X-tan's Super-Depressing Sales Thread of Emotionally-Numbing Sales Sadness
Post by: AdmiralViscen on May 15, 2014, 08:53:21 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on May 15, 2014, 07:04:24 PM
And Xbone is the 2nd highest selling hardware with that 115k. 

But I'm sure everything's fine.

3DS' collapse might be more impressive than XBone or Wii U
Title: Re: X-tan's Super-Depressing Sales Thread of Emotionally-Numbing Sales Sadness
Post by: bachikarn on May 15, 2014, 09:59:25 PM
Quote from: Joe Molotov on May 15, 2014, 07:45:00 PM
3 Lego games and Minecraft, we've reached the event spergrizon.

the spergularity
Title: Re: X-tan's Super-Depressing Sales Thread of Emotionally-Numbing Sales Sadness
Post by: benjipwns on May 15, 2014, 09:59:27 PM
Quote from: Howard Alan Treesong on May 15, 2014, 08:11:38 PM
Some quick back of the box math...

Xbox One sold 115k in April.
Analysts estimate that Apple sold 38.2 million iPhones last quarter, which averages out to 12.7 million per month.
That means iPhone is outselling Xbox One at a rate of 100+-to-1.

Imagine that you're a developer trying to determine what platform to make games for. What do YOU choose?
This ignores attach rate. Considering the attach rate of Nintendoland, New Super Mario Bros. U, Mario Kart 8, etc.  I'm making a Wii U exclusive. Especially with Microsoft dropping the key feature of the Kinect, I can trust Nintendo not to abandon their essential hook in the tablet controller.
Title: Re: X-tan's Super-Depressing Sales Thread of Emotionally-Numbing Sales Sadness
Post by: cool breeze on May 15, 2014, 10:14:33 PM
fewer than 4,000 vitas were sold in april

you can fit every vita sold in april in a small room.  if you had 84 bags of M&Ms, every M&M would equal one vita sold in april.  people spent less than one million dollars on vitas in april.
Title: Re: X-tan's Super-Depressing Sales Thread of Emotionally-Numbing Sales Sadness
Post by: thisismyusername on May 15, 2014, 10:24:32 PM
Quote from: fryinghigh on May 15, 2014, 10:14:33 PM
fewer than 4,000 vitas were sold in april

you can fit every vita sold in april in a small room. if you had 84 bags of M&Ms, every M&M would equal one vita sold in april.  people spent less than one million dollars on vitas in april.

 :ohhh Someone confirm/deny this. I'm not so good with the M&M's math.
Title: Re: X-tan's Super-Depressing Sales Thread of Emotionally-Numbing Sales Sadness
Post by: archie4208 on May 15, 2014, 10:27:18 PM
Quote from: fryinghigh on May 15, 2014, 10:14:33 PM
fewer than 4,000 vitas were sold in april

you can fit every vita sold in april in a small room.  if you had 84 bags of M&Ms, every M&M would equal one vita sold in april.  people spent less than one million dollars on vitas in april.

People spent >14 times as much money on Dota compendiums last week than Vitas last month.  :lol
Title: Re: X-tan's Super-Depressing Sales Thread of Emotionally-Numbing Sales Sadness
Post by: Raban on May 15, 2014, 10:35:31 PM
can we change the title to Math-kun?
Title: Re: X-tan's Super-Depressing Sales Thread of Emotionally-Numbing Sales Sadness
Post by: AdmiralViscen on May 15, 2014, 10:38:11 PM
Mario golf 17k? Holy shit. Kirby 40k.
Title: Re: X-tan's Super-Depressing Sales Thread of Emotionally-Numbing Sales Sadness
Post by: chronovore on May 15, 2014, 10:42:07 PM
Quote from: thisismyusername on May 15, 2014, 10:24:32 PM
Quote from: fryinghigh on May 15, 2014, 10:14:33 PM
fewer than 4,000 vitas were sold in april

you can fit every vita sold in april in a small room. if you had 84 bags of M&Ms, every M&M would equal one vita sold in april.  people spent less than one million dollars on vitas in april.

 :ohhh Someone confirm/deny this. I'm not so good with the M&M's math.

That's actually written "Emandematics."
Title: Re: X-tan's Super-Depressing Sales Thread of Emotionally-Numbing Sales Sadness
Post by: Positive Touch on May 15, 2014, 10:53:24 PM
so... are all the remaining major devs calling emergency meetings to talk about what theyre going to be releasing in 2016-17? because starting a multi-million dollar project at this point just seems like pissing in the wind
Title: Re: X-tan's Super-Depressing Sales Thread of Emotionally-Numbing Sales Sadness
Post by: Human Snorenado on May 15, 2014, 10:55:19 PM
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Title: Re: X-tan's Super-Depressing Sales Thread of Emotionally-Numbing Sales Sadness
Post by: Positive Touch on May 15, 2014, 10:57:35 PM
Quote from: AdmiralViscen on May 15, 2014, 10:38:11 PM
Mario golf 17k? Holy shit. Kirby 40k.

 :heh those are like atlus numbers
Title: Re: X-tan's Super-Depressing Sales Thread of Emotionally-Numbing Sales Sadness
Post by: ToxicAdam on May 15, 2014, 11:07:13 PM
(http://www.thenoobdad.com/wp-content/uploads/disaster_girl_and_other_disaster_kids_01-490x200.jpg)
Title: Re: Emandematics Sales Thread: M&M sales up, Kit Kats lose $1 billion
Post by: Joe Molotov on May 15, 2014, 11:10:05 PM
Quote from: Positive Touch on May 15, 2014, 10:57:35 PM
Quote from: AdmiralViscen on May 15, 2014, 10:38:11 PM
Mario golf 17k? Holy shit. Kirby 40k.

 :heh those are like atlus numbers

When are we gonna get Conception II numbers?  :hitler
Title: Re: Emandematics Thread: M&M sales up, Kit Kats lose $1 billion
Post by: Raban on May 15, 2014, 11:12:36 PM
thread title change :bow2
Title: Re: Emandematics Thread: M&M sales up, Kit Kats lose $1 billion
Post by: Joe Molotov on May 15, 2014, 11:22:36 PM
It's all looking a bit :flabbypd
Title: Re: Emandematics Thread: M&M sales up, Kit Kats lose $1 billion
Post by: Raban on May 15, 2014, 11:24:42 PM
just wait Facebook will save us :neogaf
Title: Re: Emandematics Thread: M&M sales up, Kit Kats lose $1 billion
Post by: Steve Youngblood on May 15, 2014, 11:35:37 PM
Poor Mario Golf.
Title: Re: Emandematics Thread: M&M sales up, Kit Kats lose $1 billion
Post by: Takao on May 16, 2014, 01:24:22 AM
I played about 10 minutes of the Conception demo and was like nuh-uh.
Title: Re: Emandematics Thread: M&M sales up, Kit Kats lose $1 billion
Post by: Tasty on May 16, 2014, 01:37:27 AM
:what
Title: Re: Emandematics Thread: M&M sales up, Kit Kats lose $1 billion
Post by: HyperZoneWasAwesome on May 16, 2014, 01:51:07 AM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on May 16, 2014, 01:09:46 AM
conception 2 on vita outsold mario golf

i love you vita but your fans need to be on an fbi watchlist
holy crap, that's actually, kind of an okay number for an ultra niche sorta game.  Did the 3DS version even match that?

I guess that performance does explain the Senran Kagura/Neptunia/shame dungeon games that keep coming out for it.
Title: Re: Emandematics Thread: M&M sales up, Kit Kats lose $1 billion
Post by: Rahxephon91 on May 16, 2014, 01:56:01 AM
I was slightly interested in Conception 2 it because it's a jrpg. I mean I knew it had some otaku crap in it, but maybe it could be ignored. Then in the 3DS demo you went on a date with strange emotionless Rei clone and I was just like "I don't need this Japan. This stuff is getting old". I'm not even sure it has fanservice other then the strange way the character picture moves that makes some character's boobs bounce. The entire thing just seemed half assed honestly.

I really like the Vita, more because it just seems like a really well made portable. It's got some ok games, but I keep seeing this sentiment that it's this great jrpg machine. My question is where are these jrpg games? It's not like there are a lot. Two of the best one's seem to be ports. Then there's Ys. After that there's NIS crap that I couldn't care less about. I don't get it.

Quote
I guess that performance does explain the Senran Kagura/Neptunia/shame dungeon games that keep coming out for it.
I mean I'm not going to talk crap about Senran Kagura because I'm going to get it. Yet maybe it's because the jrpg genre has fallen on hard times, but it seems those Neptunia and IF games have genuine fans. That they are actually considered good. It's pretty sad.
Title: Re: Emandematics Thread: M&M sales up, Kit Kats lose $1 billion
Post by: Tasty on May 16, 2014, 04:26:18 AM
Quote from: Rahxephon91 on May 16, 2014, 01:56:01 AM
I was slightly interested in Conception 2 it because it's a jrpg.

:gurl
Title: Re: Emandematics Thread: M&M sales up, Kit Kats lose $1 billion
Post by: mjemirzian on May 16, 2014, 05:07:22 AM
This year and next year seem like a big case of "our AAA games sold millions and millions but we still lost money". 2016-2017? Smartphone game future. :'(

Console gaming is hitting the same wall arcade games did. Most people are now gaming on smartphones, tablets, or low-mid range laptops and PCs that offer comparable graphics to the layman with additional non-gaming features.

SoCs with much improved integrated graphics will put a serious squeeze on consoles. Nvidia and AMD are both racing towards high performance/watt parts for computing devices that "just happen to" play games. Gaming-exclusive devices are rapidly dropping off.
Title: Re: Emandematics Thread: M&M sales up, Kit Kats lose $1 billion
Post by: thisismyusername on May 16, 2014, 06:02:19 AM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on May 16, 2014, 02:09:47 AM
It's sad.  I know when I was watching that unveiling of the Vita with its Ryu ga Gotoku stuff and what-have-you, I never would have anticipated its fate would be as an otaku masturbation aid and a collection of late indie ports.

Yep, it's why I haven't bought anything for the system in nearly a year.

Outside of Disgaea 4 (shut up, Rah) and Tearaway there isn't much on the system I want that isn't PSP backlog titles. And at that point I can just play PSP backlog titles on my PC with PPSSPP.  :-\

I will admit that Badman free-to-play title is pretty good though.
Title: Re: Emandematics Thread: M&M sales up, Kit Kats lose $1 billion
Post by: Eel O'Brian on May 16, 2014, 07:11:41 AM
To be fair to Vita, they were letting stock dry up for the 2000 bundle launch.  So it probably missed an extra 500-1000 sales

spoiler (click to show/hide)
:lol
[close]

I bought it because I have about 20 PS+ (and PSP games I bought during sales) that I have never even touched, so by the time I'm finished with those a few more will have built up. Plus, streaming PS4 and PSNow games. Good enough.

Anyhow, I'm okay with 3-5 big console/PS4 games a year until it's over, I never play through more than that anyway  :yeshrug
Title: Re: X-tan's Super-Depressing Sales Thread of Emotionally-Numbing Sales Sadness
Post by: Purple Filth on May 16, 2014, 07:31:49 AM
Quote from: AdmiralViscen on May 15, 2014, 08:53:21 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on May 15, 2014, 07:04:24 PM
And Xbone is the 2nd highest selling hardware with that 115k. 

But I'm sure everything's fine.

3DS' collapse might be more impressive than XBone or Wii U

Indeed but "lol handhelds".


also its funny seeing the RIP Vita stuff again when its been dead for a while.
Title: Re: Emandematics Thread: M&M sales up, Kit Kats lose $1 billion
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on May 16, 2014, 07:44:25 AM
Too much focus on hollywood gaming has brought this on.

399/499 for new hardware and 60 euro for throw away experiences had to end or diminish one day.

The culling this gen will be huge.

Now back to Hearthstone on my 3 year old laptop, can't wait for the iPhone release so I can spend some more money on it.
Title: Re: Emandematics Thread: M&M sales up, Kit Kats lose $1 billion
Post by: thisismyusername on May 16, 2014, 02:32:30 PM
Quote from: Lagerless on May 16, 2014, 07:44:25 AM
Too much focus on hollywood gaming has brought this on.

399/499 for new hardware and 60 euro for throw away experiences had to end or diminish one day.

The culling this gen will be huge.

Now back to Hearthstone on my 3 year old laptop, can't wait for the iPhone release so I can spend some more money on it.

Dropping online play fees would probably help a small bit as well. Maybe just me putting my desire on others, but I can't see people willingly putting up with $50/year just to play Call of Duty online for much longer.
Title: Re: Emandematics Thread: M&M sales up, Kit Kats lose $1 billion
Post by: Human Snorenado on May 16, 2014, 03:14:26 PM
Quote from: thisismyusername on May 16, 2014, 02:32:30 PM
Quote from: Lagerless on May 16, 2014, 07:44:25 AM
Too much focus on hollywood gaming has brought this on.

399/499 for new hardware and 60 euro for throw away experiences had to end or diminish one day.

The culling this gen will be huge.

Now back to Hearthstone on my 3 year old laptop, can't wait for the iPhone release so I can spend some more money on it.

Dropping online play fees would probably help a small bit as well. Maybe just me putting my desire on others, but I can't see people willingly putting up with $50/year just to play Call of Duty online for much longer.

I pay for PS+ willingly and happily, and I never play online multiplayer anything. FREE GAMES YO.
Title: Re: Emandematics Thread: M&M sales up, Kit Kats lose $1 billion
Post by: Great Rumbler on May 16, 2014, 03:35:12 PM
Quote from: Borys on May 16, 2014, 03:29:37 PM
Just FYI you are paying for them. They are not Free.

Really, really cheap games, yo.
Title: Re: Emandematics Thread: M&M sales up, Kit Kats lose $1 billion
Post by: Human Snorenado on May 16, 2014, 05:54:51 PM
Quote from: Borys on May 16, 2014, 03:29:37 PM
Just FYI you are paying for them. They are not Free.

Pffft.

:yeshrug
Title: Re: Emandematics Thread: M&M sales up, Kit Kats lose $1 billion
Post by: Human Snorenado on May 16, 2014, 05:59:08 PM
I paid less ($30 on the holiday sale) for a year of PS+ and probably dozens of games than you paid for HD remakes of two shitty square games.

:jawalrus
Title: Re: Emandematics Thread: M&M sales up, Kit Kats lose $1 billion
Post by: Eel O'Brian on May 16, 2014, 09:11:18 PM
I know, right? When I loaded up the store and checked my DL history on the Vita, there was all kinds of PS+ shit I didn't even remember "buying," like SF vs. Tekken.

That reminds me, be sure and "buy" any PS+ games you haven't already so they'll be in your DL History, they always do a big refresh come E3 time.

Title: Re: Emandematics Thread: M&M sales up, Kit Kats lose $1 billion
Post by: Damian79 on May 16, 2014, 11:27:54 PM
Is it really true that you lose everything even the ones that you buy on ps+ if you leave ps+?
Title: Re: Emandematics Thread: M&M sales up, Kit Kats lose $1 billion
Post by: Raban on May 16, 2014, 11:29:39 PM
pretty sure you keep the games you bought on sale, but the free monthly gimmes get taken away without a sub.
Title: Re: Emandematics Thread: M&M sales up, Kit Kats lose $1 billion
Post by: Joe Molotov on May 16, 2014, 11:38:23 PM
Yeah, free stuff is gone (until you resub), stuff you bought on discount is yours forever.
Title: Re: Emandematics Thread: M&M sales up, Kit Kats lose $1 billion
Post by: thisismyusername on May 16, 2014, 11:58:44 PM
Quote from: Damian79 on May 16, 2014, 11:27:54 PM
Is it really true that you lose everything even the ones that you buy on ps+ if you leave ps+?

Stuff you bought on discount is yours. DLC you bought for stuff you didn't buy (rentals) isn't yours to keep. The DLC itself is, but the game it's attached to? No.
Title: Re: Emandematics Thread: M&M sales up, Kit Kats lose $1 billion
Post by: benjipwns on May 17, 2014, 12:06:31 AM
I love Kit Kats  :(

Was hoping they'd port some of the Japanese flavors over, guess that won't be happening...  :gloomy
Title: Re: Emandematics Thread: M&M sales up, Kit Kats lose $1 billion
Post by: Damian79 on May 17, 2014, 12:39:20 AM
Thanks for that.  Good to hear that it is not a distinguished mentally-challenged system(ps+ that is), its kinda cool actually.
Title: Re: Emandematics Thread: M&M sales up, Kit Kats lose $1 billion
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on May 17, 2014, 03:37:06 AM
My PS+ is on my irish account, so when it expires I would have to order a PS+ card from there to keep the games.
Title: Re: Emandematics Thread: M&M sales up, Kit Kats lose $1 billion
Post by: a slime appears on May 17, 2014, 09:15:44 AM
I'm more interested in knowing how the Whatchamacallit market is doing.

(http://i.imgur.com/pEMyWWp.jpg)
 :mouf
Title: Re: Emandematics Thread: M&M sales up, Kit Kats lose $1 billion
Post by: Trent Dole on May 17, 2014, 06:56:09 PM
Nutrageous shits on your favorite candy :gun
Title: Re: Emandematics Thread: M&M sales up, Kit Kats lose $1 billion
Post by: headwalk on May 17, 2014, 07:17:24 PM
finally, the myth that only first party software sells on nintendo platforms is dispelled.
Title: Re: Emandematics Thread: M&M sales up, Kit Kats lose $1 billion
Post by: bork on May 17, 2014, 08:04:54 PM
Quote from: a slime appears on May 17, 2014, 09:15:44 AM
I'm more interested in knowing how the Whatchamacallit market is doing.

(http://i.imgur.com/pEMyWWp.jpg)
 :mouf

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Md_uz1dKMTM
:rock
Title: Re: X-tan's Super-Depressing Sales Thread of Emotionally-Numbing Sales Sadness
Post by: Rusty Shackleford on May 18, 2014, 01:24:47 AM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on May 15, 2014, 09:55:30 PM
Quote from: AdmiralViscen on May 15, 2014, 08:53:21 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on May 15, 2014, 07:04:24 PM
And Xbone is the 2nd highest selling hardware with that 115k. 

But I'm sure everything's fine.

3DS' collapse might be more impressive than XBone or Wii U

Yeah, though it was always going to be the second casualty of what's killing the whole thing right now.

3DS collapsing? I don't really keep track of sales data. I thought it was just kinda muddling along, doing OK under the circumstances.
Title: Re: Emandematics Thread: M&M sales up, Kit Kats lose $1 billion
Post by: a slime appears on May 21, 2014, 10:21:48 AM
Media Crate is reporting the PS4 has hit Wii U levels of sales (http://gematsu.com/2014/05/media-create-sales-51214-51814).

Quote from: Media Crate
Hardware Sales (followed by last week’s sales)

    3DS LL – 18,350 (28,414)
    PlayStation Vita – 12,810 (17,143)
    PlayStation 3 – 7,339 (7,684)
    PlayStation 4 – 6,792 (8,480)
    Wii U – 6,716 (7,613)
    3DS – 5,250 (7,529)
    PSP – 1,642 (2,022)
    PlayStation Vita TV – 1,055 (1,351)
    Xbox 360 – 201 (233)

:lol
Title: Re: Emandematics Thread: M&M sales up, Kit Kats lose $1 billion
Post by: Joe Molotov on May 21, 2014, 10:42:31 AM
:bow Vita :bow2
Title: Re: Emandematics Thread: M&M sales up, Kit Kats lose $1 billion
Post by: brob on May 21, 2014, 10:45:50 AM
summer hit japan early this year :whew

Everyone is outside playing their Vita
Title: Re: Emandematics Thread: M&M sales up, Kit Kats lose $1 billion
Post by: fizzel on May 21, 2014, 11:07:48 AM
getting a malware warning on the last page.
Title: Re: Emandematics Thread: M&M sales up, Kit Kats lose $1 billion
Post by: Joe Molotov on May 21, 2014, 11:37:27 AM
Quote from: fizzel on May 21, 2014, 11:07:48 AM
getting a malware warning on the last page.

Chrome didn't like COG hotlinking to Memegenerator, so I removed it.
Title: Re: Emandematics Thread: M&M sales up, Kit Kats lose $1 billion
Post by: archie4208 on June 01, 2014, 09:19:50 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/D1v0Ca2.png)

Valve has made nearly $20 million off a single virtual item in ~a month.

That's kinda sales related, right?
Title: Re: Emandematics Thread: M&M sales up, Kit Kats lose $1 billion
Post by: Human Snorenado on June 01, 2014, 09:29:39 AM
Quote from: Joe Molotov on May 21, 2014, 11:37:27 AM
Quote from: fizzel on May 21, 2014, 11:07:48 AM
getting a malware warning on the last page.

Chrome didn't like COG hotlinking to Memegenerator, so I removed it.

:yeshrug

Yeah apparently memegenerator is all malwared out now, my bad. Imgur or bust.
Title: Re: Emandematics Thread: M&M sales up, Kit Kats lose $1 billion
Post by: Great Rumbler on June 03, 2014, 10:03:34 AM
Mario Kart 8 sold 1.2 million, making it the fastest selling Wii U game.

http://www.polygon.com/2014/6/2/5772826/mario-kart-8-nintendo-fastest-selling-wii-u
Title: Re: Emandematics Thread: M&M sales up, Kit Kats lose $1 billion
Post by: Brehvolution on June 03, 2014, 02:28:23 PM
What are the other 5 million wiiu owners waiting for?
Title: Re: Emandematics Thread: M&M sales up, Kit Kats lose $1 billion
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on June 03, 2014, 02:41:38 PM
Quote from: Zero Hero on June 03, 2014, 02:28:23 PM
What are the other 5 million wiiu owners waiting for?

Space World
Title: Re: Emandematics Thread: M&M sales up, Kit Kats lose $1 billion
Post by: Steve Youngblood on June 03, 2014, 02:56:54 PM
Quote from: Howard Alan Treesong on June 03, 2014, 02:41:38 PM
Quote from: Zero Hero on June 03, 2014, 02:28:23 PM
What are the other 5 million wiiu owners waiting for?

Space World

Never forget.
(http://img.youtube.com/vi/wBtAvX4Pkyk/0.jpg)
Title: Re: Emandematics Thread: M&M sales up, Kit Kats lose $1 billion
Post by: bork on June 03, 2014, 03:17:20 PM
Quote from: Great Rumbler on June 03, 2014, 10:03:34 AM
Mario Kart 8 sold 1.2 million, making it the fastest selling Wii U game.

http://www.polygon.com/2014/6/2/5772826/mario-kart-8-nintendo-fastest-selling-wii-u

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XYGxWGduCCQ
Title: Re: Emandematics Thread: M&M sales up, Kit Kats lose $1 billion
Post by: Himu on June 03, 2014, 04:35:24 PM
Wiuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu!!!!!!
Title: Re: Emandematics Thread: M&M sales up, Kit Kats lose $1 billion
Post by: Takao on June 03, 2014, 07:07:26 PM
Quote from: Zero Hero on June 03, 2014, 02:28:23 PM
What are the other 5 million wiiu owners waiting for?

The rest of their allowance.
Title: Re: Emandematics Thread: M&M sales up, Kit Kats lose $1 billion
Post by: Takao on June 05, 2014, 03:02:41 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on May 16, 2014, 01:09:46 AM
conception 2 on vita outsold mario golf

i love you vita but your fans need to be on an fbi watchlist

http://www.reddit.com/r/vita/comments/27e8s0/3d_models_from_conception_ii/
Title: Re: Emandematics Thread: M&M sales up, Kit Kats lose $1 billion
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on June 07, 2014, 01:40:16 PM
(http://i.minus.com/iok0buTkIx4lk.gif)
Title: Re: Emandematics Thread: M&M sales up, Kit Kats lose $1 billion
Post by: Himu on June 07, 2014, 01:46:04 PM
The king of crappy GTA clones, a delayed PGR rip off racer, Steam sloppy seconds, and the creative bankruptcy that is console gaming.

Neat!
Title: Re: Emandematics Thread: M&M sales up, Kit Kats lose $1 billion
Post by: Rahxephon91 on June 07, 2014, 01:51:21 PM
You know in all this console bashing, I sure never read about the actual awesome and inventive mobile titles that supposedly prove that mobile is the land of milk and honey.
Title: Re: Emandematics Thread: M&M sales up, Kit Kats lose $1 billion
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on June 07, 2014, 01:53:31 PM
Don of the slums is still don of the slums
Title: Re: Emandematics Thread: M&M sales up, Kit Kats lose $1 billion
Post by: Himu on June 07, 2014, 02:22:03 PM
Quote from: Rahxephon91 on June 07, 2014, 01:51:21 PM
You know in all this console bashing, I sure never read about the actual awesome and inventive mobile titles that supposedly prove that mobile is the land of milk and honey.

Actually, that's Steam.

But mobile isn't far off.

blek
Plague inc.
Republique
Ridiculous Fishing
Monument Valley
A Dark Room
Threes
Har.mo.ny.
Device 6
Super Hexagon
Tengami
Waking Mars

Mind, I haven't played all these games yet. But I do know is that they're different, varied in diversity and appeal.  Not all of them are totally new, but they don't have to be. They're still budding examples of a young, creatively booming platform.
Title: Re: Emandematics Thread: M&M sales up, Kit Kats lose $1 billion
Post by: Rahxephon91 on June 07, 2014, 02:31:41 PM
I notice the word good was never mentioned. Just that they are different and "unique" as if that is an automatic defier of actual quality.
Title: Re: Emandematics Thread: M&M sales up, Kit Kats lose $1 billion
Post by: magus on June 07, 2014, 02:31:48 PM
that list looks as sad as any war list than a nintendo fan would pull out upon someone saying that wii u has no software

and himumu doesn't even play the king of mobile game pazudora, smh :snoop
Title: Re: Emandematics Thread: M&M sales up, Kit Kats lose $1 billion
Post by: Himu on June 07, 2014, 03:04:11 PM
Quote from: Rahxephon91 on June 07, 2014, 02:31:41 PM
I notice the word good was never mentioned. Just that they are different and "unique" as if that is an automatic defier of actual quality.

:lol

Quote from: magus on June 07, 2014, 02:31:48 PM
that list looks as sad as any war list than a nintendo fan would pull out upon someone saying that wii u has no software

and himumu doesn't even play the king of mobile game pazudora, smh :snoop

:lol
Title: Re: Emandematics Thread: M&M sales up, Kit Kats lose $1 billion
Post by: Rahxephon91 on June 07, 2014, 03:17:00 PM
Hey man, whatever makes you feel like a unique little snow flake.
Title: Re: Emandematics Thread: M&M sales up, Kit Kats lose $1 billion
Post by: Himu on June 07, 2014, 03:22:15 PM
Quote from: Rahxephon91 on June 07, 2014, 03:17:00 PM
Hey man, whatever makes you feel like a unique little snow flake.

You haven't played any of those games.

Liking Hitman Go makes me a special snowflake?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9kJxrLSwHU

Smash Hit?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCF6cKFnXJQ

Pivvot?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lvb68dq3ku8

How 'bout UFO on Tape?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pLYIzOUDvw8

868 Hack?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UW__xM6XYro

A Ride Into The Mountains?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yMjEEqovl3M

What about Kiwanuka?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gv9FimtUOCE

Face it. You are talking out of your ass.

All of these games are good, and the ones I've not played, people I trust say they are.

You have just proved not only do you know jack shit about the platform you hate, you have shit taste.
Title: Re: Emandematics Thread: M&M sales up, Kit Kats lose $1 billion
Post by: Himu on June 07, 2014, 03:25:24 PM
Goddamn, the tears and pure ether here are delicious. Rah gonna pay - or has already paid? - 400 dollars on a last gen port machine.

Can't wait in two years when most developers have moved to mobile!

(http://gifki.net/images/full/tears.gif)

                                                                 :mouf
Title: Re: Emandematics Thread: M&M sales up, Kit Kats lose $1 billion
Post by: Rahxephon91 on June 07, 2014, 03:32:56 PM
Man can himu never be an annoying and condescending asshole? I doubt it,

I never said anything about those game, because I don't give a shit about them.

Difference is, I don't have to go around every thread talking shit about what everyone else is enjoying in an attempt to play up the crap that makes me feel like some little trendy fuck.

Because literaly every damn post you make on this issue comes off that exact way.

"OH consoles are dead! Enjoy you're generic games losers as I enjoy my hip intellectually diverse games"

No one gives a fuck.

Throw in the inevitable line that implies you have the superior taste or knowledge to know what taste is and you have a himu post about modern games.

Add in extra vague as fuck words like innovation and what not for bonus points.

It's fucking annoying. 

Just fucking enjoy your mobile games and quiet the fuck down about them. You're like some annoying anime fan who just discovered the shit and wants to tell all your friends about how much better the same shit with different paint is so much better then what else is out there.
Title: Re: Emandematics Thread: M&M sales up, Kit Kats lose $1 billion
Post by: Human Snorenado on June 07, 2014, 03:35:32 PM
The only thing sweeter will be the inevitable thread where Himu buys a $400 last gen port machine for whatever reason
Title: Re: Emandematics Thread: M&M sales up, Kit Kats lose $1 billion
Post by: Himu on June 07, 2014, 03:37:17 PM
You know, I've considered it because I'd like the Warriors games with better graphics, but it really isn't even worth it, especially with FF15 not being at E3.
Title: Re: Emandematics Thread: M&M sales up, Kit Kats lose $1 billion
Post by: Rahxephon91 on June 07, 2014, 03:38:52 PM
Oh god it's time to put your annoying ass on ignore just like Andrex.

At least Andrex has a sense of humor about his fanboysim. And doesn't come off as some insecure hipster about his platform.

Yeah, I have a PS4 and it's fun. It's got games I like on it. What is you're point? I'm sorry it's dosen't have UNIQUE games that are UNIQUE because some assholes decided to put some shitty watercolor effects over thier shit art. Hey, whatever though. I guess it makes you feel good because you're enjoying these UNIQUE games.
Title: Re: Emandematics Thread: M&M sales up, Kit Kats lose $1 billion
Post by: Himu on June 07, 2014, 03:39:32 PM
Quote from: Rahxephon91 on June 07, 2014, 03:32:56 PM
Man can himu never be an annoying and condescending asshole? I doubt it,

I never said anything about those game, because I don't give a shit about them.

Difference is, I don't have to go around every thread talking shit about what everyone else is enjoying in an attempt to play up the crap that makes me feel like some little trendy fuck.

Because literaly every damn post you make on this issue comes off that exact way.

"OH consoles are dead! Enjoy you're generic games losers as I enjoy my hip intellectually diverse games"

No one gives a fuck.

Throw in the inevitable line that implies you have the superior taste or knowledge to know what taste is and you have a himu post about modern games.

Add in extra vague as fuck words like innovation and what not for bonus points.

It's fucking annoying. 

Just fucking enjoy your mobile games and quiet the fuck down about them. You're like some annoying anime fan who just discovered the shit and wants to tell all your friends about how much better the same shit with different paint is so much better then what else is out there.

Quote from: Rahxephon91 on June 07, 2014, 03:38:52 PM
Oh god it's time to put your annoying ass on ignore just like Andrex.

At least Andrex has a sense of humor about his fanboysim. And doesn't come off as some insecure hipster about his platform.

Yeah, I have a PS4 and it's fun. It's got games I like on it. What is you're point? I'm sorry it's dosen't have UNIQUE games that are UNIQUE because some assholes decided to put some shitty watercolor effects over thier shit art. Hey, whatever though. I guess it makes you feel good because you're enjoying these UNIQUE games.

(http://i.imgur.com/Pt51Yb0.gif)
(http://i.imgur.com/Pt51Yb0.gif)
(http://i.imgur.com/Pt51Yb0.gif)

:lol
Title: Re: Emandematics Thread: M&M sales up, Kit Kats lose $1 billion
Post by: Himu on June 07, 2014, 03:56:29 PM
Quote from: Exodust SoulBurn on June 07, 2014, 03:48:29 PM
Quote from: Formerly Known As Himuro on June 07, 2014, 03:37:17 PM
You know, I've considered it because I'd like the Warriors games with better graphics, but it really isn't even worth it, especially with FF15 not being at E3.

Talk about console games being samey, turns around and champions Dynasty Warrior games.

Himu, why the fuck do you care? people here who bought new consoles are pretty happy with it including myself. I dunno about Rahx but mobile games don't appeal to me at all while Steam and Indie games do(and guess what, I play on both with consoles).

You're no better than console warriors yourself. You post almost exactly like 2005 era system wars Gamespot forum poster.

Dynasty Warriors games aren't all I play. There's nothing wrong with enjoying predictable, yearly franchises. But you don't see me putting Dynasty Warriors on a pedestal and using it as a bullet point that the console gaming industry is healthy or high in creative output. Naw, I enjoy Dynasty Warriors. I enjoy GTA. I enjoy Batman games. And I'm going to play Dynasty Warriors and all those other games. But it's not going to be the only thing I play or enjoy. And it doesn't take away from my core argument.

Your logic and rebuttal is really bad. It's like saying one can't enjoy a super hero comic movie while also enjoying an indie film. It's reductionist and short-sighted.
Title: Re: Emandematics Thread: M&M sales up, Kit Kats lose $1 billion
Post by: Himu on June 07, 2014, 03:59:38 PM
As for the Gamespot poster thing, that's also stupidity. I trolled Lager with his stupid ps4 fellatio. I do not give a flying fuck about your ps4 gifs, Lager. Rah, ever in his self serious mode - expect him to write a long drawn out tirade RIGHT NOW! - asked about creative mobile games. I posted them. He didn't even consider my opinion in any meaningful way. For that, I will troll. And I will him hard.

I don't really care that much. You assume I do, because Rah forced me to back up a point. This all started by calling Lager out on his ps4 bullshit, which is hardly caring.

As for "going in a completely different direction"? No. I didn't. Your argument is fucking moronic.
Title: Re: Emandematics Thread: M&M sales up, Kit Kats lose $1 billion
Post by: Tasty on June 07, 2014, 04:14:26 PM
Quote from: Rahxephon91 on June 07, 2014, 01:51:21 PM
You know in all this console bashing, I sure never read about the actual awesome and inventive mobile titles that supposedly prove that mobile is the land of milk and honey.

::)

Quote from: Rahxephon91 on June 07, 2014, 03:38:52 PM
Oh god it's time to put your annoying ass on ignore just like Andrex.

At least Andrex has a sense of humor about his fanboysim. And doesn't come off as some insecure hipster about his platform.

(http://i.imgur.com/Nix9UVL.gif)
Title: Re: Emandematics Thread: M&M sales up, Kit Kats lose $1 billion
Post by: Himu on June 07, 2014, 04:16:08 PM
Seriously. That post from Rah is fucking awful and stupid as fuck. No one said ANYTHING about mobile. But because he spent 400 dollars on a ps4, he has to bring up mobile because...? And this is relevant to Lager posting a crappy ps4 gif in the sales thread, how exactly?
Title: Re: Emandematics Thread: M&M sales up, Kit Kats lose $1 billion
Post by: Tasty on June 07, 2014, 04:19:22 PM
The problem is he starts with a lot of presuppositions about mobile, too. It's hard to argue with someone who is willfully ignorant.

spoiler (click to show/hide)
Self-(http://i.imgur.com/z7F4jYO.png)
[close]

It's also hard to argue with someone who takes what you say about their golden platform as a personal attack.

Quote
Yeah, I have a PS4 and it's fun. It's got games I like on it. What is you're point? I'm sorry it's dosen't have UNIQUE games that are UNIQUE because some assholes decided to put some shitty watercolor effects over thier shit art. Hey, whatever though. I guess it makes you feel good because you're enjoying these UNIQUE games.

Rahx, nobody really cares what games you like in this discussion. That's not what the discussion is about. Don't take internet posts personally, breh.
Title: Re: Emandematics Thread: M&M sales up, Kit Kats lose $1 billion
Post by: Himu on June 07, 2014, 04:24:44 PM
Quote from: Tasty Meat on June 07, 2014, 04:19:22 PM
The problem is he starts with a lot of presuppositions about mobile, too. It's hard to argue with someone who is willfully ignorant.

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It's also hard to argue with someone who takes what you say about their golden platform as a personal attack.

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Yeah, I have a PS4 and it's fun. It's got games I like on it. What is you're point? I'm sorry it's dosen't have UNIQUE games that are UNIQUE because some assholes decided to put some shitty watercolor effects over thier shit art. Hey, whatever though. I guess it makes you feel good because you're enjoying these UNIQUE games.

Rahx, nobody really cares what games you like in this discussion. That's not what the discussion is about. Don't take internet posts personally, breh.

My favorite part is where he calls me insecure, when he is the person who brought up mobile. :rofl

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Title: Re: Emandematics Thread: M&M sales up, Kit Kats lose $1 billion
Post by: Rahxephon91 on June 07, 2014, 04:55:20 PM
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The problem is he starts with a lot of presuppositions about mobile, too. It's hard to argue with someone who is willfully ignorant.
What presuppositions would those be? That I don't give a shit? That they are all these hipster games I wouldn't give a fuck about? Well that little video barrage from himu only proved me correct.

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It's also hard to argue with someone who takes what you say about their golden platform as a personal attack.
This is coming from Andrex, btw. The person who self-identifies by Nintendo. Also the person who likes to shit on games he's never played. 1st, I never said anything that would imply Ps4 is some golden platform. I didn't say it was great. I didn't say it was better then mobile. I didn't even actually specifically mention PS4 first you idiot. I did'nt say anything that was singing praise about PS4. No, I was saying how annoyed I am of Himu's repeated console bashing over and over. The same shit all the time.

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Rahx, nobody really cares what games you like in this discussion. That's not what the discussion is about.
??? Um I didn't say they did. I never was talking about which platform is better. I don't give a shit about mobile to have an opinion about it. I didn't even argue that consoles are awesome and aren't filled with generic shoot games.  They are and I don't care because I like those games. You don't see me needing to go and talk about how awesome I am because I play CoD and Battlefield and whatnot though. That's what Himu does and thats what is annoying. I'm not the only one who has noticed this either. I'm also not the only one here who is simply ok with whats out there. No one here is trying to say it's super fucking amazing on consoles. It was about Himu being an annoying a-hole about this crap in every thread. I'm not sure why you're trying to paint this as about the PS4 when I said really nothing about the system.


Every thread Himu has to pop in an tell us (in a condescending matter) how shitty consoles are. Go back a few pages in the GAF thread and see the perfect example.

Quote from: Formerly Known As Himuro on June 06, 2014, 03:22:35 PM
Let's be honest.

How do you AAA console game players feel right now? So far, 2014 is the worst year of gaming I have ever seen and I have been playing since I was 4. There's new consoles out, and they're still riffing on game types popularized in 2007/2008. There's barely anything inventive. 3ds release schedule is shit. Vita is lolitown. Ps3 is a paper weight unless you like some musou or kusoge. Xbox360 :rofl The new consoles mostly have up ports announced and released so far. The only interesting titles released this year are all indie and available on Steam. How do those apples taste, that you paid 400-500 for these machines? Paying 400 dollars for mediocre GTA knock offs. This is where we are at.

The rest of the year doesn't look good either, outside of Evil Within and Witcher 3. We are almost a year into the new consoles and you've been getting last gen and steam scraps. :hitler and the old consoles? The systems that usually have boom periods of creativity after a new console launch? They're mostly dead. Japanese games have gone to shit. Western games have gone to shit. The only thing to play from either are expected franchises like tales, musou, battlefield, borderlands, farcry, call if duty.

The only platforms where gamers can play anything inventive and are fresh are steam, the dd services (pan, xbla), and mobile.

And yet they cling to consoles and laugh at mobile. :sabu

It's pretty obvious why I brought up mobile games. Because himu while shitting on consoles likes to tell us how great mobiles are, while reminding us that we are idiots for not playing mobiles and enjoying consoles. Yet, quite honestly (maybe because I don't visit the ios thread because I don't care and see no reason to shit on this I don't care about unlike you two) I never see much posts about what are the awesome and innovative, unique, diverse, radical, whatever mobile games. No, it's all "this stuff all sucks". No one cares if you think that, but you don't need to bring it up all the time.
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My favorite part is where he calls me insecure, when he is the person who brought up mobile.
I don't know else to describe someone who can't help talking about how unique and great thier taste is all the time. Thats just how it comes off. You do it all the time. Maybe inscure is the wrong angle, I'm sure someone else can point out the correct one.
Title: Re: Emandematics Thread: M&M sales up, Kit Kats lose $1 billion
Post by: Himu on June 07, 2014, 05:03:40 PM
Quote from: Formerly Known As Himuro on June 07, 2014, 03:59:38 PM
Rah, ever in his self serious mode - expect him to write a long drawn out tirade RIGHT NOW! - asked about creative mobile games.

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Title: Re: Emandematics Thread: M&M sales up, Kit Kats lose $1 billion
Post by: Rahxephon91 on June 07, 2014, 05:04:58 PM
Here then I'll make it short for you.

Go fuck yourself.

And you too Andrex.
Title: Re: Emandematics Thread: M&M sales up, Kit Kats lose $1 billion
Post by: Tasty on June 07, 2014, 05:10:39 PM
Quote from: Rahxephon91 on June 07, 2014, 04:55:20 PM
This is coming from Andrex, btw. The person who self-identifies by Nintendo. Also the person who likes to shit on games he's never played.

Use ad hominems and expect to be taken seriously, brehs.
Title: Re: Emandematics Thread: M&M sales up, Kit Kats lose $1 billion
Post by: Damian79 on June 07, 2014, 05:15:17 PM
Himu is complaining about the lack of inventivity across all platforms.  And you are also brushing off all the games she mentions as crap without playing them too.  Take off your butthurt hat and reread what they are saying.
Title: Re: Emandematics Thread: M&M sales up, Kit Kats lose $1 billion
Post by: Human Snorenado on June 07, 2014, 05:17:06 PM
Isn't Rah like 17 or something, autistic, and likes big fake titties? Or am I thinking of another sperglord that posts here?
Title: Re: Emandematics Thread: M&M sales up, Kit Kats lose $1 billion
Post by: Rahxephon91 on June 07, 2014, 05:19:38 PM
Quote from: Tasty Meat on June 07, 2014, 05:10:39 PM
Quote from: Rahxephon91 on June 07, 2014, 04:55:20 PM
This is coming from Andrex, btw. The person who self-identifies by Nintendo. Also the person who likes to shit on games he's never played.

Use ad hominems and expect to be taken seriously, brehs.
Except you are claiming I'm partaking in fanboyism with the PS4 and that i'm talking shit about games I've never played.

Two things you do daily. So you should be the last person to talk about that. So not irrelevant. Not a ad hominem.
Title: Re: Emandematics Thread: M&M sales up, Kit Kats lose $1 billion
Post by: Tasty on June 07, 2014, 05:24:56 PM
Quote from: Rahxephon91 on June 07, 2014, 05:19:38 PM
Quote from: Tasty Meat on June 07, 2014, 05:10:39 PM
Quote from: Rahxephon91 on June 07, 2014, 04:55:20 PM
This is coming from Andrex, btw. The person who self-identifies by Nintendo. Also the person who likes to shit on games he's never played.

Use ad hominems and expect to be taken seriously, brehs.
Except you are claiming I'm partaking in fanboyism with the PS4 and that i'm talking shit about games I've never played.

Two things you do daily. So you should be the last person to talk about that. So not irrelevant. Not a ad hominem.

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Title: Re: Emandematics Thread: M&M sales up, Kit Kats lose $1 billion
Post by: Eel O'Brian on June 07, 2014, 05:26:19 PM
Best thing about consoles continues to be trading in games

If I'd bought Wolfenstein and Watch_Doges on PC, I'd be sitting there staring at my Steam library like this :beli
Title: Re: Emandematics Thread: M&M sales up, Kit Kats lose $1 billion
Post by: Tasty on June 07, 2014, 05:28:53 PM
Quote from: Eel O'Brian on June 07, 2014, 05:26:19 PM
Best thing about consoles continues to be trading in games

If I'd bought Wolfenstein and Watch_Doges on PC, I'd be sitting there staring at my Steam library like this :beli

More like you wouldn't be able to find them in the list, right? :gurl
Title: Re: Emandematics Thread: M&M sales up, Kit Kats lose $1 billion
Post by: Eel O'Brian on June 07, 2014, 05:30:55 PM
Alphabetical, dawg

Bioshock Infinite cured me of buying $60 launch PC games that aren't Fallout 4
Title: Re: Emandematics Thread: M&M sales up, Kit Kats lose $1 billion
Post by: Joe Molotov on June 07, 2014, 05:31:22 PM
Jesus, this thread.

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Title: Re: Emandematics Thread: M&M sales up, Kit Kats lose $1 billion
Post by: Eel O'Brian on June 07, 2014, 05:32:55 PM
let's talk about art and mobile games, joe
Title: Re: Emandematics Thread: M&M sales up, Kit Kats lose $1 billion
Post by: Great Rumbler on June 07, 2014, 05:43:02 PM
This is the talk about sales thread, not the get hot under the collar because whatever dumb reason about video games thread.
Title: Re: Emandematics Thread: M&M sales up, Kit Kats lose $1 billion
Post by: Rufus on June 07, 2014, 07:03:35 PM
Quote from: Creepy Old Guy on June 07, 2014, 05:17:06 PM
Isn't Rah like 17 or something, autistic, and likes big fake titties? Or am I thinking of another sperglord that posts here?
That's Ruzbeh.
Title: Re: Emandematics Thread: M&M sales up, Kit Kats lose $1 billion
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on June 08, 2014, 01:40:01 AM
Quote from: Creepy Old Guy on June 07, 2014, 05:17:06 PM
Isn't Rah like 17 or something, autistic, and likes big fake titties? Or am I thinking of another sperglord that posts here?

You are really the last person on this board that should try this approach
Title: Re: Emandematics Thread: Mobile games outsell Rahx 3:1
Post by: Human Snorenado on June 08, 2014, 07:11:31 AM
No, I seriously get those two mixed up. I'm old and forgetful n shit.
Title: Re: Emandematics Thread: Mobile games outsell Rahx 3:1
Post by: Takao on June 08, 2014, 10:29:12 AM
Last page and a half:
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Title: Re: Emandematics Thread: Mobile games outsell Rahx 3:1
Post by: Himu on June 08, 2014, 12:39:55 PM
ENGINEERING. DAMAGE REPORT.
Title: Re: Emandematics Thread: Mobile games outsell Rahx 3:1
Post by: Pringo on June 16, 2014, 07:02:38 PM
May 2014 NPD

Overall:

Overall retail sales were up 52% year over year.

Hardware sales were up 95% year over year.

Software sales were up 57% year over year. (http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2014-06-16-mario-kart-8-watch-dogs-spark-big-us-game-sales-in-may-npd)


Software:

(http://i.imgur.com/EYGWXlJ.jpg)


Hardware:

PS4: Best selling hardware. (https://twitter.com/iansherr/status/478666783826538497)
3DS: Second best selling hardware. (https://twitter.com/iansherr/status/478667585723301888)
Wii U: 32,600 * 1.85 = 60,130 - Up 85% for May (https://twitter.com/iansherr/status/478667480714706944) versus May 2013. (https://twitter.com/iansherr/status/478670112354885634)  (http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=66914306&postcount=1137)
Title: Re: Emandematics Thread: Mobile games outsell Rahx 3:1
Post by: Great Rumbler on June 16, 2014, 07:17:36 PM
Was Wolfenstein able to hit 1 million?
Title: Re: Emandematics Thread: Mobile games outsell Rahx 3:1
Post by: cool breeze on June 16, 2014, 07:19:10 PM
alternatively, does MLB regularly sell this well or did everything Wolfenstein and under sell bad?
Title: Re: Emandematics Thread: Mobile games outsell Rahx 3:1
Post by: Joe Molotov on June 16, 2014, 07:27:47 PM
Kirbeh > Mario Golf
Title: Re: Emandematics Thread: Mobile games outsell Rahx 3:1
Post by: Human Snorenado on June 16, 2014, 09:28:27 PM
MARIO KART #2? ANDREX EXPLAIN
Title: Re: Emandematics Thread: Mobile games outsell Rahx 3:1
Post by: cool breeze on June 16, 2014, 10:26:58 PM
vita only 4 thousand behind the wii u.  now this is a race.


yikes.  ps4 only console above 100k.
Title: Re: Emandematics Thread: Mobile games outsell Rahx 3:1
Post by: Pringo on June 16, 2014, 10:42:57 PM
200k > PS4 > 100k > XBO > Wii U > 360 > 50k > PS3 > Wii
Title: Re: Emandematics Thread: Mobile games outsell Rahx 3:1
Post by: Himu on June 16, 2014, 10:58:14 PM
XBO had a price drop and no kinect and is less than 100k?! :dead :rofl :dead
Title: Re: Emandematics Thread: Mobile games outsell Rahx 3:1
Post by: Takao on June 16, 2014, 10:59:00 PM
Kinect drop occurred in june himu
Title: Re: Emandematics Thread: Mobile games outsell Rahx 3:1
Post by: Himu on June 16, 2014, 11:03:23 PM
Oh. I thought it was May, because I remember it being announced in May.
Title: Re: Emandematics Thread: Mobile games outsell Rahx 3:1
Post by: Joe Molotov on June 16, 2014, 11:43:26 PM
You could "pre-order" a Kinect-less Xbox in May.  :teehee
Title: Re: Emandematics Thread: Mobile games outsell Rahx 3:1
Post by: mjemirzian on June 17, 2014, 12:00:43 AM
2015 feels like the industry tipping point. Either console sales skyrocket and all those back to back AAAs sell well, or there's going to be a lot of red ink spilled.
Title: Re: Emandematics Thread: Mobile games outsell Rahx 3:1
Post by: Tasty on June 17, 2014, 12:45:47 AM
XBO more than Wii U in MK month :violin
Title: Re: Emandematics Thread: Mobile games outsell Rahx 3:1
Post by: Himu on June 17, 2014, 12:47:55 AM
Quote from: mjemirzian on June 17, 2014, 12:00:43 AM
2015 feels like the industry tipping point. Either console sales skyrocket and all those back to back AAAs sell well, or there's going to be a lot of red ink spilled.

Sales are tanking. 2015 will be the mass culling and transition to mobile for a lot of developers I think.
Title: Re: Emandematics Thread: Mobile games outsell Rahx 3:1
Post by: archie4208 on June 17, 2014, 12:51:35 AM
Quote from: mjemirzian on June 17, 2014, 12:00:43 AM
2015 feels like the industry tipping point. Either console sales skyrocket and all those back to back AAAs sell well, or there's going to be a lot of red ink spilled.

It'll be the later for the console guys.

Meanwhile Tencent is making loadsamoney. 

All hail your mobile and F2P overlords.  :bow2
Title: Re: Emandematics Thread: Mobile games outsell Rahx 3:1
Post by: Barraco Barner on June 17, 2014, 01:19:06 AM
I'm gonna need some Ouya numbers before I give credence to any doomsday scenarios.
Title: Re: Emandematics Thread: Mobile games outsell Rahx 3:1
Post by: Joe Molotov on June 17, 2014, 01:22:52 AM
Quote from: Barraco Barner on June 17, 2014, 01:19:06 AM
I'm gonna need some Ouya numbers before I give credence to any doomsday scenarios.

When one gets sold, I'll you know.
Title: Re: Emandematics Thread: Mobile games outsell Rahx 3:1
Post by: Great Rumbler on June 17, 2014, 01:26:17 AM
Quote from: archie4208 on June 17, 2014, 12:51:35 AM
All hail your mobile and F2P overlords.  :bow2

F2P is literal hell garbage.
Title: Re: Emandematics Thread: Mobile games outsell Rahx 3:1
Post by: Himu on June 17, 2014, 01:28:42 AM
Quote from: Great Rumbler on June 17, 2014, 01:26:17 AM
Quote from: archie4208 on June 17, 2014, 12:51:35 AM
All hail your mobile and F2P overlords.  :bow2

F2P is literal hell garbage.

Really? F2P is fine. Many good games are available via f2p.
Title: Re: Emandematics Thread: Mobile games outsell Rahx 3:1
Post by: Great Rumbler on June 17, 2014, 01:37:50 AM
Maybe a couple are, most are little more than insidious money pits.
Title: Re: Emandematics Thread: Mobile games outsell Rahx 3:1
Post by: Himu on June 17, 2014, 01:40:09 AM
Not really?
Title: Re: Emandematics Thread: Mobile games outsell Rahx 3:1
Post by: Himu on June 17, 2014, 01:49:27 AM
what's the diff between paying 60 dollars for a game you can beat in 20 hours and never pick up again, and a game that has three free levels, and you can pay to buy the whole package for 20 dollars?
Title: Re: Emandematics Thread: Mobile games outsell Rahx 3:1
Post by: Himu on June 17, 2014, 01:52:44 AM
I paid jack shit for Layton iOS and i've gotten ample amount of time out of it. I got Paint it Back for free - which nets you three chapters for free - which was enticing enough to plunk 3 bucks on it for 200 additional puzzles.

Face it. When done right - which happens a lot when you have good taste and don't play crap games - F2P model >>>>> wasting 60 bucks on some mediocre monstrosity.
Title: Re: Emandematics Thread: Mobile games outsell Rahx 3:1
Post by: Tasty on June 17, 2014, 02:06:20 AM
Gimme more games like MH Freedom Unite and less like Candy Crush and I'll start to let mobile lick the crumbs off my shoes, and work up from there.
Title: Re: Emandematics Thread: Mobile games outsell Rahx 3:1
Post by: Human Snorenado on June 17, 2014, 02:25:49 AM
Sorry guys, a business model where you pay $60 to be bored with BioShock Infinite and done with it after 12 hours is more legitimate than one in which you pay maybe $80 for literally half a year's worth of varied and fun gameplay. If the bore has taught me nothing, it has taught me this.
Title: Re: Emandematics Thread: Mobile games outsell Rahx 3:1
Post by: Himu on June 17, 2014, 02:29:05 AM
Quote from: Creepy Old Guy on June 17, 2014, 02:25:49 AM
Sorry guys, a business model where you pay $60 to be bored with BioShock Infinite and done with it after 12 hours is more legitimate than one in which you pay maybe $80 for literally half a year's worth of varied and fun gameplay. If the bore has taught me nothing, it has taught me this.

:lol
Title: Re: Emandematics Thread: Mobile games outsell Rahx 3:1
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on June 17, 2014, 02:37:10 AM
Or you got Bioshock through PS+ which is the superior business model.
Title: Re: Emandematics Thread: Mobile games outsell Rahx 3:1
Post by: Himu on June 17, 2014, 02:45:10 AM
I still prefer F2P. Let's take a heavy hitter for this year: Destiny. I'd love to try Destiny, but I'm not willing to plunk 60 bucks on it. I also am not interested in using Redbox. With F2P, I can just play Destiny for free, and, let's say the game locks certain areas so you can't experience the full game without paying for the rest of it. So you try it out for a bit, see if you like it enough to pay for the rest, and spend 20 dollars on the rest of the game.

How is that inferior to playstation plus? At release, assuming there's a PS+ discount, how much of a benefit is there over just buying it from Amazon? F2P is clearly superior in the short term and long run. Sure, some developers/publishers abuse it, but publishers abuse the 60 dollar console price point as well - Tomb Raider retailed at 60 dollars!

Similarly, when buying music on iTunes, you can listen to a snippet of it before buying. Or hell, you can listen to the radio, and buy it later. I can do the same thing with Kindle books. Unfortunately, there's not a movie equivalent, but the 60 dollar premium price model is clearly outdated as seen by virtually every other form of mass market media. Why can I not play your Hollywood Gaming title to see if I enjoy and am willing to purchase the rest of it at a reasonable price? Shit's ridic.
Title: Re: Emandematics Thread: Mobile games outsell Rahx 3:1
Post by: Damian79 on June 17, 2014, 02:51:48 AM
I think I would like F2P games more if the controller for ipad comes.  I just cant get used to touch screen controls on the ipad.  Maybe old dog and new tricks?
Title: Re: Emandematics Thread: Mobile games outsell Rahx 3:1
Post by: MrAngryFace on June 17, 2014, 02:52:05 AM
People generally satisfied with F2P experiences are essentially 'done' with gaming- they just haven't realized it. F2P models work for the most cynical of reasons, and the folks that buy into that model do nothing but rationalize being used.
Title: Re: Emandematics Thread: Mobile games outsell Rahx 3:1
Post by: Damian79 on June 17, 2014, 02:58:59 AM
I dont think f2p is the end of gaming.  But high end gaming isnt possible for f2p with the exception of mmos which are big money pits.  The next 3ds should cater to the f2p models however i dont see any way around it.  Because 3ds game tend not to be high end with the exception of a few games.
Title: Re: Emandematics Thread: Mobile games outsell Rahx 3:1
Post by: Himu on June 17, 2014, 03:24:59 AM
Quote from: MrAngryFace on June 17, 2014, 02:52:05 AM
People generally satisfied with F2P experiences are essentially 'done' with gaming- they just haven't realized it. F2P models work for the most cynical of reasons, and the folks that buy into that model do nothing but rationalize being used.

I'm rationalizing that I just played Layton Brothers in my bed without paying a cent? If that's rationalizing, what's spending 60 dollars on kusoge?
Title: Re: Emandematics Thread: Mobile games outsell Rahx 3:1
Post by: Stoney Mason on June 17, 2014, 04:41:22 AM
No payment model is perfect. There is a lot of crap in f2p mixed in with a smaller segment of good stuff. And I think we can all agree the $60 model is full of games that aren't worth $60.

So the answer most likely is a variety of pay models that work different basely on the heritage of the platform and what the market is willing to bear. More pay models not less is where we are heading.
Title: Re: Emandematics Thread: Mobile games outsell Rahx 3:1
Post by: etiolate on June 17, 2014, 04:56:44 AM
Yeah, there will be more variations of payment models rather than a single standard.

I actually find Skylanders to be the most disdainful model. It's a full price game that includes on-disc DLC targeted at kids in the shape of figurines. I always wondered if the parents would keep buying the damned toys if they realized the characters already existed in the $80 game they bought their kid.
Title: Re: Emandematics Thread: Mobile games outsell Rahx 3:1
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on June 17, 2014, 05:37:01 AM
I thought that F2P resembled arcades, but arcades never let you play for free from the start.
Title: Re: Emandematics Thread: Mobile games outsell Rahx 3:1
Post by: etiolate on June 17, 2014, 06:17:53 AM
TF2 also has a tax system, as does a lot of SOE stuff with player created content. Trades and purchases between players has a portion charged that goes to the company.

Title: Re: Emandematics Thread: Mobile games outsell Rahx 3:1
Post by: archie4208 on June 17, 2014, 06:51:27 AM
I've basically broke even on Dota 2 from selling item drops.  I'm more than happy with that business models.

I don't mind the LoL type of model where content is hidden behind a grind, but if the grind is excessive then I lose motivation to play.

Energy meters can go to hell.
Title: Re: Emandematics Thread: Mobile games outsell Rahx 3:1
Post by: Positive Touch on June 17, 2014, 07:56:11 AM
am suddenly reminded of a million awful discussions i had as a tween on punk rock and the nature of selling out
Title: Re: Emandematics Thread: Mobile games outsell Rahx 3:1
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on June 17, 2014, 07:59:53 AM
All entertainment costs money in a way, but I think gamers are the most anal about how they spend their money.

With movies I sometimes go to the cinema, sometimes I Netflix, sometimes I watch free tv and sometimes paid cable (which I don't have) and sometimes I torrent.

Same with games, except that I never torrent games.
Title: Re: Emandematics Thread: Mobile games outsell Rahx 3:1
Post by: Positive Touch on June 17, 2014, 08:19:57 AM
BACK IN MY DAY WE PAYED $50 FOR SHITTY 5-HOUR-LONG MOVIE TIE-IN GAMES AND WE LIKED IT GODDAMNIT
Title: Re: Emandematics Thread: Mobile games outsell Rahx 3:1
Post by: thisismyusername on June 17, 2014, 08:21:32 AM
Quote from: Great Rumbler on June 17, 2014, 01:26:17 AM
Quote from: archie4208 on June 17, 2014, 12:51:35 AM
All hail your mobile and F2P overlords.  :bow2

F2P is literal hell garbage.

I wouldn't go that far. There's some good ones like Hawken that don't treat you like garbage. While some that have good gameplay like Ghost Recon: Online that treat you like shit for not pay-to-winning.

Quote from: Oscar
Shareware: Doom, Layton iOS, Final Fantasy Dimensions, Telltale games

Man, I miss the shareware days. When you got about 2-5 hours of content for free. Why can't we go back to the Doom model and less Telltale one-hour "demo" episodes. :'(

Quote from: Premium Lager on June 17, 2014, 07:59:53 AM
Same with games, except that I never torrent games.

:gurl
Title: Re: Emandematics Thread: Mobile games outsell Rahx 3:1
Post by: archie4208 on June 17, 2014, 09:37:08 AM
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=116963900&postcount=3002

I didn't know the 3DS was doing that poorly.

RIP in pepperoni Nintendo.
Title: Re: Emandematics Thread: Mobile games outsell Rahx 3:1
Post by: Human Snorenado on June 17, 2014, 09:43:10 AM
There's some small element of truth in what MAF's saying- I don't play a lot of games anymore. I play what I know I like, and I play the everliving fuck out of it for months if not years at a time- D3, PAD, MLB the Show. Other people buy multiple games a month at full retail and sometimes get stinkers but justify it because that's their "hobby" or whatever. Then there's demi, who is a black hole from which no hope, money, or taste can possibly escape.

I'll leave it up to others to decide who is wasting their life.
Title: Re: Emandematics Thread: Mobile games outsell Rahx 3:1
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on June 17, 2014, 09:53:40 AM
As much as I like to give him shit for spending money on dragon eggs I'm with COG on this one.
Title: Re: Emandematics Thread: Mobile games outsell Rahx 3:1
Post by: a slime appears on June 17, 2014, 10:07:47 AM
Quote from: Positive Touch on June 17, 2014, 08:19:57 AM
BACK IN MY DAY WE PAYED $50 FOR SHITTY 5-HOUR-LONG MOVIE TIE-IN GAMES AND WE LIKED IT GODDAMNIT

STILL DO!

Quote from: MrAngryFace on June 17, 2014, 02:52:05 AM
People generally satisfied with F2P experiences are essentially 'done' with gaming- they just haven't realized it. F2P models work for the most cynical of reasons, and the folks that buy into that model do nothing but rationalize being used.

Or y'know they're kids, parents, or anyone else who's not diehard into games. I can understand how easy it is to be cynical about the F2P model, in fact everything about it deserves cynicism, but it does grow the industry and helps introduce new people to the hobby. Maybe not in the direction you'd like it to go but it is growth and that's most important to the businesses that drive it (i.e.: not you).
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Post by: magus on June 17, 2014, 10:36:21 AM
Quote from: Creepy Old Guy on June 17, 2014, 09:43:10 AM
There's some small element of truth in what MAF's saying- I don't play a lot of games anymore

console gaming is in shamble, all the companies that made the golden era of videogames are gone and pretty much exist as ghost of themself so it shouldn't be shocking that there aren't just a lot of games to play anymore...

unless you are into compile heart shit, how they keep going making games is a fucking mystery

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You're not 'done' with gaming if you're still playing video games; you're just done with being a neckbeard about it.

i'm still posting on a gaming forum, of course i'm still being a videogame neckbeard :heh
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Post by: Trent Dole on June 17, 2014, 12:47:50 PM
I play the shit out of a F2P thing along with the occasional cheap ass Steam sale begotten download and bought like one boxed console game so far this year. What does that make me? :-[
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Post by: Brehvolution on June 17, 2014, 02:54:47 PM
I'm really loving Hearthstone and I'll probably never pay a dime in it. All I have to do is daily quests and casual play and I'll have enough coins for packs and arena play.
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Post by: archnemesis on June 17, 2014, 02:58:35 PM
I will likely buy the Hearthstone expansion. I've already spent many hours on it and I'm willing to hand over a few dollars. At the pace I'm playing now I don't have to worry about gold. If I feel like playing Arena then I have enough to cover the entry cost.
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Post by: archie4208 on June 17, 2014, 04:24:24 PM
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Whales :bow2

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Post by: AdmiralViscen on June 17, 2014, 04:37:47 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on June 17, 2014, 10:34:40 AM

Quote from: archie4208 on June 17, 2014, 09:37:08 AM
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=116963900&postcount=3002

I didn't know the 3DS was doing that poorly.

RIP in pepperoni Nintendo.

I was going to post something like that earlier, but it really throws the situation into sharp relief when you realize the PSP time-aligned basically kicked the sales ass of almost every system today.  And that was a laughable failure by that gen's standards.

To be fair it had a strong start
Title: Re: Emandematics Thread: Mobile games outsell Rahx 3:1
Post by: tiesto on June 17, 2014, 11:38:55 PM
F2P is fine if its cosmetic-type stuff, or shareware, but I hate F2P for things where it breaks the balance of the gameplay (where the game amps up the grind trying to force you into paying for quicker level ups, or provides exclusive weapons/armor that give your characters advantages), or for 'stamina level' type stuff.
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Post by: thisismyusername on June 17, 2014, 11:47:29 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on June 17, 2014, 08:06:50 PM
Quote from: thisismyusername on June 17, 2014, 08:21:32 AM

Quote from: Oscar
Shareware: Doom, Layton iOS, Final Fantasy Dimensions, Telltale games

Man, I miss the shareware days. When you got about 2-5 hours of content for free. Why can't we go back to the Doom model and less Telltale one-hour "demo" episodes. :'(


money.  this gets to the root problem of the industry where costs to produce content grew out of proportion with the audience.  that one hour of content costs more than an entire game budget did back in the day but will likely sell the final product to about as many people.  it's a fucked up situation.

True. But I miss being able to play Doom 1's first episode over and over and over without having to pay for it.  :lol I just want that feeling back.

Hawken, again, nearly gets that feeling. It doesn't require you to "pay to win" like something like Ghost Recon: Online does and the starting mech will generally be able to toe-to-toe with most of the other mechs if you play it right and have a good team dynamic back-up so you aren't eating deaths. I wish more F2P titles did that instead of "LOL PAY FOR THESE OBVIOUSLY BETTER WEAPONS."  :'(
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Post by: Positive Touch on June 17, 2014, 11:51:04 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on June 17, 2014, 11:44:14 PM
How do you feel about classic arcade games, which were balanced in a similar fashion?

definitely inferior to respectable full-priced products, like the old jrpgs that forced you to grind for hours on end just to pad out playtime
Title: Re: Emandematics Thread: Mobile games outsell Rahx 3:1
Post by: tiesto on June 17, 2014, 11:53:34 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on June 17, 2014, 11:44:14 PM
How do you feel about classic arcade games, which were balanced in a similar fashion?

Depends on how the game was balanced. If it was obviously unfair and a cheap quarter muncher, I probably didn't care for it (many beat-em-ups). Those that were difficult but provided a more gradual learning curve were much better... and a lot of the truly classic arcade games are more the latter. Speaking from someone who still frequents places where arcade games can be found (a rarity in this country).
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Post by: Himu on June 17, 2014, 11:55:38 PM
Quote from: Esch on June 17, 2014, 11:53:02 PM
Quote from: Positive Touch on June 17, 2014, 11:51:04 PM
definitely inferior to respectable full-priced products, like the old jrpgs that forced you to grind for hours on end just to pad out playtime


i thought you liked final fantasy man

You don't have to grind in FF to win. :gurl
Title: Re: Emandematics Thread: Mobile games outsell Rahx 3:1
Post by: tiesto on June 17, 2014, 11:57:08 PM
Quote from: Esch on June 17, 2014, 11:53:02 PM
Quote from: Positive Touch on June 17, 2014, 11:51:04 PM
definitely inferior to respectable full-priced products, like the old jrpgs that forced you to grind for hours on end just to pad out playtime


i thought you liked final fantasy man

You don't need to grind to get through 99% of all RPGs out there (and especially not any of the FF games after the first 2 Famicom games... maybe in 3 towards the end as well). You of all people should know this, Positive. But I guess you'd rather just bust my balls for being suspicious of F2P structures.
Title: Re: Emandematics Thread: Mobile games outsell Rahx 3:1
Post by: tiesto on June 18, 2014, 12:15:05 AM
You do have a point, but I still think there's a difference between Ghouls and Ghosts being hard as fuck to extend its playtime so people wouldn't trade it in right away and a game with the difficulty level of Ghouls and Ghosts with a big flashing popup when you die that says "buy this special weapon for $2 that will make the game a shitload easier". I guess I preferred when games were a bit more subtle with their monetization.

Everyone's got shit but some people have much more shit than others.
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Post by: tiesto on June 18, 2014, 12:21:02 AM
TBH most of my experience with G'n'G (and Metal Slug 3) actually come from their console ports, or arcades with free play :P
Title: Re: Emandematics Thread: Mobile games outsell Rahx 3:1
Post by: Himu on June 18, 2014, 12:24:34 AM
Quote from: tiesto on June 18, 2014, 12:15:05 AM
You do have a point, but I still think there's a difference between Ghouls and Ghosts being hard as fuck to extend its playtime so people wouldn't trade it in right away and a game with the difficulty level of Ghouls and Ghosts with a big flashing popup when you die that says "buy this special weapon for $2 that will make the game a shitload easier". I guess I preferred when games were a bit more subtle with their monetization.

Everyone's got shit but some people have much more shit than others.

Why do people bring this up when most if not all f2p games that do this are crap games anyways? It's like you're using bottom of the barrel examples to prove a point. It is unrealistic and not true for most f2p of note - of which there are many. To be honest, your double standard is showing here. You bring up crap games that say "buy this to make this game a lot easier" while defending a medium - arcade games in this instance - that have a long history of fucking the player over. That one Double Dragon game being a great example.
Title: Re: Emandematics Thread: Mobile games outsell Rahx 3:1
Post by: Himu on June 18, 2014, 12:31:33 AM
Hell, let's take Daytona. Holy hell, Daytona. It's my favorite arcade game of all time. But I spent A LOT of quarters just managing to save time. Time is limited, and when you run out of time, it's game over. Holy shit. As a kid who couldn't go to the arcade often that pissed me off. And Daytona is a GOOD game. Maybe it was because I was bad at Daytona - and I will admit I was, as it had one hell of a learning curve. But that doesn't excuse it in any way. It is like these f2p critics don't remember the very games they grew up with are now defending.
Title: Re: Emandematics Thread: Mobile games outsell Rahx 3:1
Post by: Positive Touch on June 18, 2014, 12:32:00 AM
Quote from: tiesto on June 17, 2014, 11:57:08 PM
I guess you'd rather just bust my balls

its all i know breh sorry
Title: Re: Emandematics Thread: Mobile games outsell Rahx 3:1
Post by: Himu on June 18, 2014, 12:32:14 AM
Or any King of Fighters final boss. Or the last boss of Street Fighter IIITS.
Title: Re: Emandematics Thread: Mobile games outsell Rahx 3:1
Post by: tiesto on June 18, 2014, 12:35:00 AM
Quote from: Formerly Known As Himuro on June 18, 2014, 12:24:34 AM
Quote from: tiesto on June 18, 2014, 12:15:05 AM
You do have a point, but I still think there's a difference between Ghouls and Ghosts being hard as fuck to extend its playtime so people wouldn't trade it in right away and a game with the difficulty level of Ghouls and Ghosts with a big flashing popup when you die that says "buy this special weapon for $2 that will make the game a shitload easier". I guess I preferred when games were a bit more subtle with their monetization.

Everyone's got shit but some people have much more shit than others.

Why do people bring this up when most if not all f2p games that do this are crap games anyways? It's like you're using bottom of the barrel examples to prove a point. It is unrealistic and not true for most f2p of note - of which there are many. To be honest, your double standard is showing here. You bring up crap games that say "buy this to make this game a lot easier" while defending a medium - arcade games in this instance - that have a long history of fucking the player over. That one Double Dragon game being a great example.

I guess you missed the post where I said there are some examples of F2P I am perfectly fine with, instead everyone here wanted to jump on me because I don't like some of the things its used for. The Bore's gotten to be a bit of a hivemind lately (steam good! pc good! mobile good! console bad! nintendo reeeeealllly bad!) and my tastes definitely differ from the general consensus on here.

Double Dragon 3 arcade sounds terrible. I just remember the Acclaim port for NES being too challenging to get past the first level (1 life, no continues, wtf?)

Also, the guy is a grade-A asshole but Icycalm's article on arcade gaming is a decent read (a read that some people have taken so much to that they'll stan for the guy even if he's a blatant holocaust-denier/racist/mysogynist/homophobe) and why I'm willing to put up with inflated arcade difficulty over something like Candy Crush: http://insomnia.ac/commentary/arcade_culture/ (http://insomnia.ac/commentary/arcade_culture/)
Title: Re: Emandematics Thread: Mobile games outsell Rahx 3:1
Post by: Himu on June 18, 2014, 12:38:49 AM
But why are you comparing candy crush to arcade gaming? You don't realize how silly that it is? It is like comparing tony Hawk 2 to BMX XXX. Or Duke Numem 3d to that shitty free chex fps. Why not compare Candy Crush to Dragon's Lair? Why all the emphasis on Candy Crush when Candy Crush sucks anyways? How in the world is Candy Crush a threat?
Title: Re: Emandematics Thread: Mobile games outsell Rahx 3:1
Post by: Himu on June 18, 2014, 12:42:09 AM
Also, wasn't it unanimously agreed Nintendo won E3 at the bore?
Title: Re: Emandematics Thread: Mobile games outsell Rahx 3:1
Post by: Himu on June 18, 2014, 12:46:40 AM
Re: hive mind. There isn't really a hive mind. When I said 2014 is the worst year I've ever seen for console gaming and I've been playing games since I was 4, people disagreed and they expressed their disagreement in a very vocal way - which is their right. There is no hive mind. We have two or three camps at this point, and there's a lot of mobile/f2p dissent on this board. Hell, you guys are probably the majority!
Title: Re: Emandematics Thread: Mobile games outsell Rahx 3:1
Post by: Human Snorenado on June 18, 2014, 12:47:34 AM
Quote from: Formerly Known As Himuro on June 18, 2014, 12:38:49 AM
But why are you comparing candy crush to arcade gaming? You don't realize how silly that it is? It is like comparing tony Hawk 2 to BMX XXX. Or Duke Numem 3d to that shitty free chex fps. Why not compare Candy Crush to Dragon's Lair? Why all the emphasis on Candy Crush when Candy Crush sucks anyways? How in the world is Candy Crush a threat?

Candy Crush is a threat because everyone who was never going to play games Tiesto liked is playing it, or something.

In reality, people consider it a threat because it's popular, and game companies will ape new popular shit at the expense of stuff gamers like in their quest for more money.
Title: Re: Emandematics Thread: Mobile games outsell Rahx 3:1
Post by: Tasty on June 18, 2014, 12:49:00 AM
Quote from: Formerly Known As Himuro on June 18, 2014, 12:42:09 AM
Also, wasn't it unanimously agreed Nintendo won E3 at the bore?

Maybe I am the hive mind now :ohhh
Title: Re: Emandematics Thread: Mobile games outsell Rahx 3:1
Post by: Himu on June 18, 2014, 12:52:03 AM
Tiesto, I think most of us here want the same thing. We just have a different idea as to how to get there.
Title: Re: Emandematics Thread: Mobile games outsell Rahx 3:1
Post by: tiesto on June 18, 2014, 12:52:22 AM
I actually don't mind the Wily boss rush - they're usually a good endurance test and by that time you have all the weapons so it allows for some extra experimentation (and how good is it killing Metal Man with 1 hit with his own weapon?).

Candy Crush is afaik the most widely played mobile games and one of the most blatant with its F2P. It's the elephant in the room. Any discussion of monetization in F2P games will inevitably mention it. Like how Call of Duty bears the brunt of the blame for frustrations with "AAA" game tropes. Dragon's Lair was a quarter-muncher that was nearly indecipherable but upon its release it was a blip on the radar in the arcade scene, a big game but not the biggest one.

Really the thing I hate about F2P is stuff like the Tales of Phantasia port (the original is a favorite of mine):

http://www.usgamer.net/articles/tales-of-phantasia-mobile-and-other-phantastic-rip-offs (http://www.usgamer.net/articles/tales-of-phantasia-mobile-and-other-phantastic-rip-offs)
http://toucharcade.com/2014/01/27/tales-of-phantasia-review/ (http://toucharcade.com/2014/01/27/tales-of-phantasia-review/)
Title: Re: Emandematics Thread: Mobile games outsell Rahx 3:1
Post by: Great Rumbler on June 18, 2014, 01:16:13 AM
I just wanna buy games that interest me and then be able to play them as much as I want without ever being asked to spend any more money. I also don't like MMOs either, but there are other reasons for that, too.
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Post by: Himu on June 18, 2014, 01:26:57 AM
You have that option. That doesn't explain why you're threatened by f2p or mobile. Most games on steam are premium. So I'm not seeing or understanding the hostility. Most of the games you champion - KS titles - have no goal of being f2p anyways. So the whole f2p hate thing makes even less sense.
Title: Re: Emandematics Thread: Mobile games outsell Rahx 3:1
Post by: huckleberry on June 18, 2014, 07:15:33 AM
Goddam arcade games. What a love/hate relationship I had with them. I was one of those kids who had to stand around and watch other people play because my parents never gave me enough money to finish any game (no matter how good I was). I would actually give money to people who had gotten far enough in a game (like Shinobi) just to see them get deeper into the game.
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Post by: Cerveza mas fina on June 18, 2014, 07:41:08 AM
Jesus thats some devotion.
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Post by: huckleberry on June 18, 2014, 07:56:08 AM
Not devotion, just thirst. Those were the days before SNES and Genesis. Arcade games were fucking incredible compared to console stuff.



Title: Re: Emandematics Thread: Mobile games outsell Rahx 3:1
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on June 18, 2014, 09:07:16 AM
To me the height of the arcade was with Sega Rally, Daytona etc.

But yeah those earlier times where cool as well.

Never went to the arcade much but I always thought it was magic to spend a few coins.
Title: Re: Emandematics Thread: Mobile games outsell Rahx 3:1
Post by: huckleberry on June 18, 2014, 10:03:18 AM
I have some good arcade memories. I also have some memories of standing too close to dudes with zipped up Members Only jackets who hadn't bathed in years from the smell. Whenever they would start mashing buttons too quickly the smell would escape the jacket and damn near smother me. 25 years later and I can still smell it.

Fuckin' neckbeards never change.


Title: Re: Emandematics Thread: Mobile games outsell Rahx 3:1
Post by: magus on June 18, 2014, 10:12:29 AM
if you guys are such big arcade fan then why thebore never had a mame thread? :hitler
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Post by: Himu on June 18, 2014, 10:15:43 AM
We've had multiple. Mostly by dcharlie and shonuff.
Title: Re: Emandematics Thread: Mobile games outsell Rahx 3:1
Post by: huckleberry on June 18, 2014, 10:48:56 AM
Quote from: magus on June 18, 2014, 10:12:29 AM
if you guys are such big arcade fan then why thebore never had a mame thread? :hitler

I'm not a big arcade fan....just old.

Looking back on how much money I wasted in arcades only serves to remind me why I hate f2p and iap.  You guys can like whatever the fuck you want. I don't like that shit and won't participate. If that makes me out of touch then fuck it. If it makes me seem like an elitist prick fuck it. It's my money and I spend it how I see fit.
Title: Re: Emandematics Thread: Mobile games outsell Rahx 3:1
Post by: huckleberry on June 18, 2014, 11:07:49 AM
I don't recall making any attacks on anything.
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Post by: Stoney Mason on June 18, 2014, 11:14:09 AM
I'm not even sure exactly what the argument is anymore.

If it's still about f2p then the basic discussion is what it is. Some people don't like it. Some people recognize why it makes sense for certain platforms or certain genres of games.

There seems to be fear that one method is gonna completely destroy another when that's not very likely at least any time soon. At least if you are playing on a platform where f2p isn't currently the dominant model.
Title: Re: Emandematics Thread: Mobile games outsell Rahx 3:1
Post by: huckleberry on June 18, 2014, 11:21:41 AM
Quote from: Stoney Mason on June 18, 2014, 11:14:09 AM
I'm not even sure exactly what the argument is anymore.

If it's still about f2p then the basic discussion is what it is. Some people don't like it. Some people recognize why it makes sense for certain platforms or certain genres of games.

There seems to be fear that one method is gonna completely destroy another when that's not very likely at least any time soon. At least if you are playing on a platform where f2p isn't currently the dominant model.

Much of my dislike for f2p and iap stems from having children. I have all the self control in the world when it comes to gaming and how I spend my money. Kids have no self control whatsoever. It was a constant battle to explain to my daughter why she couldn't just spend whatever money she needed from my credit card to buy some stupid fuck coins in whatever frp game she was playing at the time. Mobile is fucking overrun with that kind of shit.
I completely realize that there are plenty of legitimate f2p games out there. I just think that the model is as insidious as it gets. And I am not entirely understanding of why I should be more understanding of a pay model like f2p but, at the same time, be able to complain to the high heavens about lack of content in a game I buy at Gamestop.
Title: Re: Emandematics Thread: Mobile games outsell Rahx 3:1
Post by: Stoney Mason on June 18, 2014, 11:31:07 AM
Quote from: halgorithmic on June 18, 2014, 11:21:41 AM
Quote from: Stoney Mason on June 18, 2014, 11:14:09 AM
I'm not even sure exactly what the argument is anymore.

If it's still about f2p then the basic discussion is what it is. Some people don't like it. Some people recognize why it makes sense for certain platforms or certain genres of games.

There seems to be fear that one method is gonna completely destroy another when that's not very likely at least any time soon. At least if you are playing on a platform where f2p isn't currently the dominant model.

Much of my dislike for f2p and iap stems from having children. I have all the self control in the world when it comes to gaming and how I spend my money. Kids have no self control whatsoever. It was a constant battle to explain to my daughter why she couldn't just spend whatever money she needed from my credit card to buy some stupid fuck coins in whatever frp game she was playing at the time. Mobile is fucking overrun with that kind of shit.
I completely realize that there are plenty of legitimate f2p games out there. I just think that the model is as insidious as it gets. And I am not entirely understanding of why I should be more understanding of a pay model like f2p but, at the same time, be able to complain to the high heavens about lack of content in a game I buy at Gamestop.

At its worst extremes I think the model can be insidious also. I wouldn't even mind regulation on some of these aspects. That being said, the easiest way to tackle this problem is for Apple to have better parent guards and regulations about how they handle IAP and that's its not easy for any kid to just go and easily buy this stuff. I think it should be very hard for anybody under age to buy IAP.
 
Maybe it is. I wouldn't know as I don't have any kids. That being said, I know there is a large market of adults who actually prefer these kind of experiences rather than spending larger sums of money on traditional videogames. And clearly Dota and Lol prove there is a market for this kind of stuff in the PC space if operated in a manner where the user finds the tradeoffs worth it.

My main takeaway in all this stuff is rather than railing against the gods that people should have the same taste as my opinion, is to instead look at how do you curb the excesses in any format since the market is going to go the way it wants no matter how I feel about it. (Not aimed at anyone in particular)
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Post by: Joe Molotov on June 18, 2014, 11:34:04 AM
Was never a big arcade gamer, but I did pay ~$5 to beat Dimahoo once.
Title: Re: Emandematics Thread: Mobile games outsell Rahx 3:1
Post by: Stoney Mason on June 18, 2014, 11:37:52 AM
I loved arcades and arcade games. I have a particular love and nostalgia for them because of their history and how they once justified their existence. Even before this whole f2p thing started it was a bit obvious to me that the mobile scene initially in many ways closely resembled the early arcade scene from jump. Cheap, fun, mostly throwaway games that had to hook you from the start.

There is a real knack and talent to designing a great arcade game that was gone once consoles became dominant and arcades became a relic.
Title: Re: Emandematics Thread: Mobile games outsell Rahx 3:1
Post by: Himu on June 18, 2014, 11:47:59 AM
I'm fine with both models. There's room for both, but depends on a contextual basis.  I'm just surprised and shocked at the fact people treat f2p as like some dormant enemy threatening to take over their hobby when for the most part, the software they prefer tend to be premium priced. The whole f2p is evil/the devil movement confuses me. Especially when you really dig in and find to see it can be viable and even better than premium in some cases.

Also, I'm not including IAP in my argument. I have yet to pay for a single IAP.
Title: Re: Emandematics Thread: Mobile games outsell Rahx 3:1
Post by: huckleberry on June 18, 2014, 11:49:54 AM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on June 18, 2014, 11:31:01 AM
I should clarify that while I'm pretty okay with F2P, I think the presence of consumable IAP in games should automatically bump a game's rating to 18+.  If it's a game for kids, either make it ad-supported or stick a price tag on it and call it a day.

More than anything I think Apple and Google (and Amazon etc...) need to market games better in general.  It is so goddam hard to wade through the piles of shit and iap nonsense that I have pretty much given up on mobile gaming. I would love to see legitimately good games be promoted from within the store and separated from the crap in some way. 
Title: Re: Emandematics Thread: Mobile games outsell Rahx 3:1
Post by: Stoney Mason on June 18, 2014, 11:54:09 AM
Quote from: halgorithmic on June 18, 2014, 11:49:54 AM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on June 18, 2014, 11:31:01 AM
I should clarify that while I'm pretty okay with F2P, I think the presence of consumable IAP in games should automatically bump a game's rating to 18+.  If it's a game for kids, either make it ad-supported or stick a price tag on it and call it a day.

More than anything I think Apple and Google (and Amazon etc...) need to market games better in general.  It is so goddam hard to wade through the piles of shit and iap nonsense that I have pretty much given up on mobile gaming. I would love to see legitimately good games be promoted from within the store and separated from the crap in some way.

I don't know. When you go to the app store on an ipad at least, the best games are generally there in the featured section and you can sort by category. Outside of that I don't know much more they can do other than also duplicating that page on a regular website. I think steam is a terrible storefront for locating the good stuff but hardcore gamers don't seem to have a problem separating the wheat from the chaff on that market.
Title: Re: Emandematics Thread: Mobile games outsell Rahx 3:1
Post by: Himu on June 18, 2014, 11:55:17 AM
Quote from: halgorithmic on June 18, 2014, 11:49:54 AM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on June 18, 2014, 11:31:01 AM
I should clarify that while I'm pretty okay with F2P, I think the presence of consumable IAP in games should automatically bump a game's rating to 18+.  If it's a game for kids, either make it ad-supported or stick a price tag on it and call it a day.

More than anything I think Apple and Google (and Amazon etc...) need to market games better in general.  It is so goddam hard to wade through the piles of shit and iap nonsense that I have pretty much given up on mobile gaming. I would love to see legitimately good games be promoted from within the store and separated from the crap in some way.

Apple already does this via Collections. Google doesn't because Play Store sucks.

(http://i.imgur.com/br3ENAq.jpg)

Apple does a fantastic job of letting you know what's good on their store.

Example.

(http://i.imgur.com/nhi6Aln.jpg)
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Post by: huckleberry on June 18, 2014, 12:01:20 PM
Quote from: Stoney Mason on June 18, 2014, 11:54:09 AM
Quote from: halgorithmic on June 18, 2014, 11:49:54 AM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on June 18, 2014, 11:31:01 AM
I should clarify that while I'm pretty okay with F2P, I think the presence of consumable IAP in games should automatically bump a game's rating to 18+.  If it's a game for kids, either make it ad-supported or stick a price tag on it and call it a day.

More than anything I think Apple and Google (and Amazon etc...) need to market games better in general.  It is so goddam hard to wade through the piles of shit and iap nonsense that I have pretty much given up on mobile gaming. I would love to see legitimately good games be promoted from within the store and separated from the crap in some way.

I don't know. When you go to the app store on an ipad at least, the best games are generally there in the featured section and you can sort by category. Outside of that I don't know much more they can do other than also duplicating that page on a regular website. I think steam is a terrible storefront for locating the good stuff but hardcore gamers don't seem to have a problem separating the wheat from the chaff on that market.

Steam is horrible in that regard. And it has gotten much much worse as of late.
Title: Re: Emandematics Thread: Mobile games outsell Rahx 3:1
Post by: magus on June 18, 2014, 12:01:42 PM
Quote from: Formerly Known As Himuro on June 18, 2014, 11:47:59 AM
I'm fine with both models. There's room for both, but depends on a contextual basis.  I'm just surprised and shocked at the fact people treat f2p as like some dormant enemy threatening to take over their hobby when for the most part, the software they prefer tend to be premium priced. The whole f2p is evil/the devil movement confuses me. Especially when you really dig in and find to see it can be viable and even better than premium in some cases.

Also, I'm not including IAP in my argument. I have yet to pay for a single IAP.

it really shouldn't confuse you, there are a lot of explotaitive bad F2P games, stuff like farmville,the simpsons tapped out,candy crush,dungeon keeper and dare to say even clash of clans...

... and they all get more attention than any other mobile games because somehow they are also the titles that rake in the most money

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The Chinese MMO ZT Online has the most devious implementation of this I've ever seen. The game is full of these treasure chests that may or may not contain a random item and to open them, you need a key. How do you get the keys? Why, you buy them with real-world money, of course. Like coins in a slot machine.

Wait, that's not the best part. ZT Online does something even the casinos never dreamed up: They award a special item at the end of the day to the player who opens the most chests.

And that's hardly the most ridiculous aspect of the game.

Now, in addition to the gambling element, you have thousands of players in competition with each other, to see who can be the most obsessive about opening the chests. One woman tells of how she spent her entire evening opening chests--over a thousand--to try to win the daily prize.

She didn't. There was always someone else more obsessed.

this is what people think when they think of F2P, that and game where you issue an order only to see it executed 12 hours later
Title: Re: Emandematics Thread: Mobile games outsell Rahx 3:1
Post by: huckleberry on June 18, 2014, 12:04:48 PM
I really don't have a problem at all with the f2p model itself, especially when its treated like a demo-  download the first few levels in the game and, if you like it, you can purchase the game itself. I do think that iap has completely ruined f2p (at least in my mind) because so often iap is place in f2p games to disastrous results.
Title: Re: Emandematics Thread: Mobile games outsell Rahx 3:1
Post by: Himu on June 18, 2014, 12:06:27 PM
Quote from: magus on June 18, 2014, 12:01:42 PM
Quote from: Formerly Known As Himuro on June 18, 2014, 11:47:59 AM
I'm fine with both models. There's room for both, but depends on a contextual basis.  I'm just surprised and shocked at the fact people treat f2p as like some dormant enemy threatening to take over their hobby when for the most part, the software they prefer tend to be premium priced. The whole f2p is evil/the devil movement confuses me. Especially when you really dig in and find to see it can be viable and even better than premium in some cases.

Also, I'm not including IAP in my argument. I have yet to pay for a single IAP.

it really shouldn't confuse you, there are a lot of explotaitive bad F2P games, stuff like farmville,the simpsons tapped out,candy crush,dungeon keeper and dare to say even clash of clans...

... and they all get more attention than any other mobile games because somehow they are also the titles that rake in the most money

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The Chinese MMO ZT Online has the most devious implementation of this I've ever seen. The game is full of these treasure chests that may or may not contain a random item and to open them, you need a key. How do you get the keys? Why, you buy them with real-world money, of course. Like coins in a slot machine.

Wait, that's not the best part. ZT Online does something even the casinos never dreamed up: They award a special item at the end of the day to the player who opens the most chests.

And that's hardly the most ridiculous aspect of the game.

Now, in addition to the gambling element, you have thousands of players in competition with each other, to see who can be the most obsessive about opening the chests. One woman tells of how she spent her entire evening opening chests--over a thousand--to try to win the daily prize.

She didn't. There was always someone else more obsessed.

this is what people think when they think of F2P, that and game where you issue an order only to see it executed 12 hours later

It confuses me because all of those are bad games and I don't play bad games and there's no point in wasting ones time or emotions on bad games.
Title: Re: Emandematics Thread: Mobile games outsell Rahx 3:1
Post by: magus on June 18, 2014, 12:10:11 PM
but the bad games are the majority and they are EVERYWHERE

heck in fact i think the only reason i've started to like mobile games it's because PAD is a thing, PAD isn't even avaiable in europe, i had to steal it from the american market... you know what's avaiable in europe and what's the first game that will pop out if i search for popular games on the android market? clash of clans and candy crush saga

the mobile market doesn't have only bad games but it's mostly defined by bad games

Title: Re: Emandematics Thread: Mobile games outsell Rahx 3:1
Post by: Himu on June 18, 2014, 12:11:39 PM
All of that has more to do with Play Store being dog shit and the fact that Android gamers tend to have awful taste.
Title: Re: Emandematics Thread: Mobile games outsell Rahx 3:1
Post by: Stoney Mason on June 18, 2014, 12:16:31 PM
Quote from: magus on June 18, 2014, 12:10:11 PM
but the bad games are the majority and they are EVERYWHERE

heck in fact i think the only reason i've started to like mobile games it's because PAD is a thing, PAD isn't even avaiable in europe, i had to steal it from the american market... you know what's avaiable in europe and what's the first game that will pop out if i search for popular games on the android market? clash of clans and candy crush saga

the mobile market doesn't have only bad games but it's mostly defined by bad games

There are plenty of games that aren't this style of game on mobile. But that being said, I'll even defend the energy system games because if people weren't getting enjoyment out of them, they wouldn't play them. You may not like them. But there are people who like Simpsons tapped out. Clash of Clans, etc. And these people are fine with a tradeoff of playing a game for a bit and then stopping and never having to drop a dime in the game. They aren't going to sit on their ipad or iphone and play a game for hours. They have lives and gaming is a side activity. Not a main hobby or their #1 hobby.

There will always be this divide. If that bothers you there are platforms that exist where f2p doesn't attract a more casual market. And its fine for someone to prefer those markets. I just don't quite understand being overly concerned about something you don't like. It's like me railing on about Transformers movies. Yeah they suck. Don't go see them if you don't like them. There are plenty of other movies out there.
Title: Re: Emandematics Thread: Mobile games outsell Rahx 3:1
Post by: magus on June 18, 2014, 12:18:15 PM
Quote from: Formerly Known As Himuro on June 18, 2014, 12:11:39 PM
All of that has more to do with Play Store being dog shit and the fact that Android gamers tend to have awful taste.

the big software house like square-enix also do a terrible job that once again aiming to exploit the player first and making a decent game later

what you'd expect a square-enix freemium mobile game to look like

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n5xtf9Sj9bE

what you get instead

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJUl1ATZ6mU

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There are plenty of games that aren't this style of game on mobile.

i'm not saying there aren't, just that these are the one that get talked/noticed the most and as long as they are the one that get talked/noticed the most, freemium games will always be seen with a bad eye
Title: Re: Emandematics Thread: Mobile games outsell Rahx 3:1
Post by: Stoney Mason on June 18, 2014, 12:21:50 PM
Quote from: magus on June 18, 2014, 12:18:15 PM
i'm not saying there aren't, just that these are the one that get talked/noticed the most

by who? And for what reason?

If you are talking business types then yeah. If you are talking about your mom or father. then probably yeah too. But on forums or hardcore enthusiast sites, those aren't the most talked about and popular games on that format.
Title: Re: Emandematics Thread: Mobile games outsell Rahx 3:1
Post by: huckleberry on June 18, 2014, 12:23:05 PM
Quote from: Formerly Known As Himuro on June 18, 2014, 12:11:39 PM
All of that has more to do with Play Store being dog shit and the fact that Android gamers tend to have awful taste.


Android ports are, in large part, half assed. It's not because Android owners have awful taste. gtfo with that appletard shit.


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Post by: demi on June 18, 2014, 12:27:42 PM
Quote from: tiesto on June 18, 2014, 12:35:00 AM
The Bore's gotten to be a bit of a hivemind lately (steam good! pc good! mobile good! console bad! nintendo reeeeealllly bad!) and my tastes definitely differ from the general consensus on here.

You know that's not true. We were jacking our chubby little dicks to Nintendo just a week ago.
Title: Re: Emandematics Thread: Mobile games outsell Rahx 3:1
Post by: magus on June 18, 2014, 12:28:28 PM
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My Square-Enix F2P games look like Agito and Rise of Mana.  They're really pretty.

i hope you choke on sushi, you kuso-weeaboo! >:(
Title: Re: Emandematics Thread: Mobile games outsell Rahx 3:1
Post by: Tasty on June 18, 2014, 12:28:37 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on June 18, 2014, 11:31:01 AM
I should clarify that while I'm pretty okay with F2P, I think the presence of consumable IAP in games should automatically bump a game's rating to 18+.  If it's a game for kids, either make it ad-supported or stick a price tag on it and call it a day.

Isn't the EU moving in that direction?

Then again those fucks made "gambling" in games an automatic 14+ or whatever which means no more Game Corner in my Pokemans.  >:(
Title: Re: Emandematics Thread: Mobile games outsell Rahx 3:1
Post by: Himu on June 18, 2014, 12:30:11 PM
Quote from: magus on June 18, 2014, 12:18:15 PM
Quote from: Formerly Known As Himuro on June 18, 2014, 12:11:39 PM
All of that has more to do with Play Store being dog shit and the fact that Android gamers tend to have awful taste.

the big software house like square-enix also do a terrible job that once again aiming to exploit the player first and making a decent game later

what you'd expect a square-enix freemium mobile game to look like

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n5xtf9Sj9bE

what you get instead

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJUl1ATZ6mU

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There are plenty of games that aren't this style of game on mobile.

i'm not saying there aren't, just that these are the one that get talked/noticed the most and as long as they are the one that get talked/noticed the most, freemium games will always be seen with a bad eye

SE recently have been putting out high quality titles like Hitman Go and Deus Ex.

More than that, we have things like Monster Hunter on the way. Which again, isn't for Android.

You bring up Deadman's Cross and not this:

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7iocv_-X9QI

Or this

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=l9kJxrLSwHU

???

What about Agito?

Your argument couldn't be more skewed or biased, friend. Not only are you playing on the wrong platform, you're playing bad games. Play good games only.
Title: Re: Emandematics Thread: Mobile games outsell Rahx 3:1
Post by: Stoney Mason on June 18, 2014, 12:38:31 PM
Final post on the subject. I get that people dislike f2p and what it can do. It can fundamentally change the nature of what makes a game enjoyable.

Plants versus Zombies the original is one of my favorite games of all time.

Plants versus Zombies 2 is one of the most disappointing games of all time to me. And its not even a bad offender when it comes to f2p. It's very possible to play through that entire experience without dropping a dime.

Even still it took something that felt charming, and warm to me and it felt it like it turned it into a cold, calculated, grind without any charm or class or humour.

So I completely get it. It depends on the property. It depends on how it's designed. And it depends a bit on what your expectations were going in.  That's certainly one side of mobile. It's not the only side though.
Title: Re: Emandematics Thread: Mobile games outsell Rahx 3:1
Post by: demi on June 18, 2014, 12:39:43 PM
Here is a F2P Square Enix game

http://www.ign.com/prime/promo/deus-ex-free
Title: Re: Emandematics Thread: Mobile games outsell Rahx 3:1
Post by: Himu on June 18, 2014, 12:42:26 PM
Agreed. It can be good or bad. But at the same time Tomb Raider retailed at 60 dollars. I beat that game in like two days on a rental. Good game, but sixty dollars? Neither price point is perfect, and I wish people would treat the situation as it actually is rather than having some odd vendetta against mobile which is a platform where hardcore gamers could subsist on for a long, long time.
Title: Re: Emandematics Thread: Mobile games outsell Rahx 3:1
Post by: magus on June 18, 2014, 12:43:21 PM
none of those two games are freemium himu

and yes agito is a thing, but it's a thing NOW... i'm not sure it can wash the bad taste of all the bad freemium game square-enix has released so far


Title: Re: Emandematics Thread: Mobile games outsell Rahx 3:1
Post by: Himu on June 18, 2014, 12:46:13 PM
Yes, SE has released bad games. But they've been releasing mediocrity for a generation of games anyways. Now that SE realizes that mobile is a viable platform for hardcore gamers, I think we will start to see better games from them, and as shown on this page, we already have. No big deal. No need to hold a grudge. Good games are good games.
Title: Re: Emandematics Thread: Mobile games outsell Rahx 3:1
Post by: archie4208 on June 18, 2014, 12:51:58 PM
Thar she blows (http://i.imgur.com/m1f1ioh.png)
Title: Re: Emandematics Thread: Mobile games outsell Rahx 3:1
Post by: etiolate on June 18, 2014, 01:42:50 PM
That's not enjoyment of a game. That's some ridiculous gesture of excess.
Title: Re: Emandematics Thread: Mobile games outsell Rahx 3:1
Post by: Great Rumbler on June 18, 2014, 01:49:02 PM
That's probably some Wall Street exec's kid. I'd do the same thing if my dad was loaded.
Title: Re: Emandematics Thread: Mobile games outsell Rahx 3:1
Post by: The Legend of Sunblade on June 18, 2014, 06:49:43 PM
Don't forget the king of SE's shitpile (http://i.imgur.com/NGWlpBS.gif), which they had the audacity to charge people for before making it F2P months later.

(http://i.imgur.com/3uz0Try.png)

By contrast, I'm actually kind of excited to play FFVII: G-Bike, which is apparently F2P.

Title: Re: Emandematics Thread: Mobile games outsell Rahx 3:1
Post by: The Legend of Sunblade on June 18, 2014, 07:33:11 PM
Hence "which they had the audacity to charge people for before making it F2P months later".  :P I think it still counts because it's really easy to tell just by playing it for a little bit that the game was completely designed around being F2P but was instead given a price tag just because they could get away with it.

I don't really have a bone to pick with F2P anyway, good games are good games. I just like to pick on how awful SE's output could get in the past few years.
Title: Re: Emandematics Thread: Mobile games outsell Rahx 3:1
Post by: magus on June 18, 2014, 08:01:34 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on June 18, 2014, 06:40:47 PM

Quote from: magus on June 18, 2014, 12:43:21 PM
none of those two games are freemium himu

and yes agito is a thing, but it's a thing NOW... i'm not sure it can wash the bad taste of all the bad freemium game square-enix has released so far

That'd be Deadman's Cross, Guardian Cross, Pictlogica, a couple of a la carte music games, and a few shareware games?  I don't think those are particularly heavy sins to carry.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5laW84hOmYw&list=PLPSFHR_4JQd1GwE92nBu0892Z0PryTw0f
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eE1BTw3Oa40

TATANKA MAGUS DOESN'T FORGET!

(http://lexfridman.com/blogs/training/files/2013/02/crying-indian.jpg)

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also i'm not sure at what level square-enix is involved (pretty sure they just publish and they only publish in asia so i wouldn't point my finger too hard) but they are also involved with this bundle of horribad non-game

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KAPXQoFOpPI

Title: Re: Emandematics Thread: Mobile games outsell Rahx 3:1
Post by: Positive Touch on June 18, 2014, 08:11:27 PM
keep on reaching like they havent been releasing full-length rpgs for years now, magoose
Title: Re: Emandematics Thread: Mobile games outsell Rahx 3:1
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on June 19, 2014, 01:53:05 PM
I just downloaded Champ Man (lol) , a football manager game by Square Enix.

It lets you choose a team to manage so i choose Ajax.

It then asks me 1.5 euro to do this.

This within 20 secs of starting the game.

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I know they make a lot of bigger games but this is absurd
Title: Re: Emandematics Thread: Mobile games outsell Rahx 3:1
Post by: Eel O'Brian on June 19, 2014, 07:32:12 PM
http://www.gamevice.com

(http://gamevice.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/GameviceOpen_Alt_06.png)
Title: Re: Emandematics Thread: Mobile games outsell Rahx 3:1
Post by: Himu on June 19, 2014, 07:34:44 PM
God fucking dammit.

Nintendo HAD to start this stupid ass ANALOG ON TOP OF FACE BUTTONS movement with the wii u. And now every fucker is copying it.

ANALOG STICKS GO BELOW FACE BUTTONS.

Title: Re: Emandematics Thread: Mobile games outsell Rahx 3:1
Post by: Eel O'Brian on June 19, 2014, 07:39:14 PM
It's got R/L triggers and shoulder buttons, too. Of the various iOS controllers, this seems to have the most complete feature set.
Title: Re: Emandematics Thread: Mobile games outsell Rahx 3:1
Post by: Himu on June 19, 2014, 07:43:19 PM
It does. I may get one.
Title: Re: Emandematics Thread: Mobile games outsell Rahx 3:1
Post by: Tasty on June 19, 2014, 07:53:24 PM
Quote from: Formerly Known As Himuro on June 19, 2014, 07:34:44 PM
God fucking dammit.

Nintendo HAD to start this stupid ass ANALOG ON TOP OF FACE BUTTONS movement with the wii u. And now every fucker is copying it.

ANALOG STICKS GO BELOW FACE BUTTONS.

:umad
Title: Re: Emandematics Thread: Mobile games outsell Rahx 3:1
Post by: Himu on June 19, 2014, 07:56:52 PM
I'm mad because unlike you I ACTUALLY PLAY GAMES.
Title: Re: Emandematics Thread: Mobile games outsell Rahx 3:1
Post by: Tasty on June 19, 2014, 07:59:46 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/kYrCqwU.png)
Title: Re: Emandematics Thread: Mobile games outsell Rahx 3:1
Post by: Himu on June 19, 2014, 08:31:23 PM
Put the face buttons - the most used button that's not an analog stick - in the least used space on a modern controller, brehs.

Nintendo logic!
Title: Re: Emandematics Thread: Mobile games outsell Rahx 3:1
Post by: Takao on June 19, 2014, 08:36:49 PM
I'm one of those 3DS Ambassador people and the placement of the D-Pad under it makes it hard to play Mario. Of course, the D-Pad being kind of shit doesn't help either.
Title: Re: Emandematics Thread: Mobile games outsell Rahx 3:1
Post by: Himu on June 19, 2014, 08:45:48 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on June 19, 2014, 08:34:43 PM
I still don't understand your beef with this setup beyond "it's not what I'm used to".

I have tried it and honestly do not like it. It feels unnatural to me, no matter how much time I spend on a Wii U. It's probably because I don't have the system so it's hard for me to get enough time to get used to it, but every time I play a 3d game that requires use of right stick manipulation, I find my reflexes suffer because I have to have to move my thumb from the stick to the buttons. Sticks have more room than buttons, simply due to their size. So when playing a game and I need to use the right stick, I don't have to look at the controller to know where the stick is. With face buttons being on the buttom of the controller, I have to feel for it and get used to the button placement. Hitting Y for example, sucks, because it's so far down, I have to actually reach to hit it. The same is true for A. I have small hands, and I don't like have the feeling that I have to move anything but my thumb on a 3d game controller.

Beyond that, there's the issue of weight and ergonomics. Having a left analog stick in the top left position, while having face buttons on the bottom right feels unnatural and weighty. The fact the Wii U controller is a tablet makes this especially true. Go and pick up a Wii U controller. Then take a ps3 and 360 controller, and you'll see what I'm talking about.

I think the set up is kinds of terrible, and I can easily switch from xbox set up to playstation set up. Wii U set up though? :trash
Title: Re: Emandematics Thread: Mobile games outsell Rahx 3:1
Post by: Himu on June 19, 2014, 09:11:02 PM
I disagree. Look at the wii u pro controller.

(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/7115A2m702L._SL1500_.jpg)

Let's say you're playing a 2d game (Smash Brothers for instance) and you're using dpad and face buttons. That's far too close, and just plain ridiculous. Even handhelds are not that cramped. I find the placement highly flawed and limiting. Is there any benefit for face buttons being in that position? What games benefit from it? 2d games don't. 3d games? Maybe. But I'm not seeing any reason at all why there was a need to flip the positions other than Nintendo's weird need to be different just to be different.
Title: Re: Emandematics Thread: Mobile games outsell Rahx 3:1
Post by: Takao on June 19, 2014, 09:58:01 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on June 19, 2014, 09:09:00 PM
as an aside, the sheer irony of a sonytard complaining about a shitty dpad on another system is not lost on me.

that's how i know the 3ds one is bad
Title: Re: Emandematics Thread: Mobile games outsell Rahx 3:1
Post by: SpeedStats on June 19, 2014, 10:16:39 PM
Quote from: Formerly Known As Himuro on June 19, 2014, 09:11:02 PM
I disagree. Look at the wii u pro controller.

Let's say you're playing a 2d game (Smash Brothers for instance) and you're using dpad and face buttons. That's far too close, and just plain ridiculous. Even handhelds are not that cramped. I find the placement highly flawed and limiting. Is there any benefit for face buttons being in that position? What games benefit from it? 2d games don't. 3d games? Maybe. But I'm not seeing any reason at all why there was a need to flip the positions other than Nintendo's weird need to be different just to be different.

I agree with that. I thought using a Wii U Pro Controller with The Wind Waker or DKC:TF would be a good idea, but I genuinely hate using it.  A game using both the D-pad and the face buttons feels so cramped and weird.  My hands are smaller so trying to reach the B button feels awkward.  I'll still use it when I feel like playing on the TV, but I still can't get past the d-pad and face buttons being in weird locations.  It's just a matter how people perceive the ergonomics of a control method, I guess.

But I mostly use the Gamepad anyway because the TV's occupied or I'm watching sports or something so whatever.
Title: Re: Emandematics Thread: Mobile games outsell Rahx 3:1
Post by: Tasty on June 19, 2014, 10:32:42 PM
Wii U Pro Controller is honestly the best controller I've used. Would I have minded them keeping the sticks the same way as on the Wii Classic Controller? Nope. But the stick needed to be in prime position for 3D gamez, so here we are.

(That much of Nintendo's output is 2.5D platformer fair these days makes me think it was an ask from third parties, similar to clicky sticks and non-circle pads.)

From the perspective of someone who's played mostly Nintendo consoles their whole life, the Xbox controller always takes some getting used to. Not only are X/Y and A/B in the wrong positions, but the right stick being below them when the left stick is above made it harder to control the camera. At least to my doughy, soft Nintendo kid brain. But that could have been a leftover aversion to the right stick from the terribad C-stick on the GameCube controller.

The Dual Shock I have far less problems with, but I hate the ergonomics (*haven't held a DS4) and it's not as comfortable for 3D games for any length of time (well, the several lengths of times I used it for an hour+.)
Title: Re: Emandematics Thread: Mobile games outsell Rahx 3:1
Post by: Tasty on June 19, 2014, 10:36:35 PM
Quote from: Formerly Known As Himuro on June 19, 2014, 09:11:02 PM
Let's say you're playing a 2d game (Smash Brothers for instance) and you're using dpad and face buttons.

The d-pad is for taunts, you philistine. :neogaf

Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on June 19, 2014, 09:17:15 PM
himusterical

:dead :dead
Title: Re: Emandematics Thread: Mobile games outsell Rahx 3:1
Post by: cool breeze on June 19, 2014, 10:47:55 PM
playing mario kart with the wii u pro controller is the first time I'm having real issues with it.  first off, accelerate should be X instead of A.  holding down any of the bottom three buttons is uncomfortable because the thumb is in an unnatural position.  not a problem with the analog stick since it's raised up and ends up feeling natural.  and the analog stick on top of the buttons doesn't bother me on the tablet because there's adequate room to lower your grip.  I'd like the pro controller that much more if it swapped the right stick and buttons.  everything else is great.  seriously, it's still on two bars of battery.
 
Title: Re: Emandematics Thread: Mobile games outsell Rahx 3:1
Post by: Himu on June 19, 2014, 10:58:31 PM
Quote from: Tasty Meat on June 19, 2014, 10:32:42 PM
Wii U Pro Controller is honestly the best controller I've used. Would I have minded them keeping the sticks the same way as on the Wii Classic Controller? Nope. But the stick needed to be in prime position for 3D gamez, so here we are.

The stick needs to be in prime position for 3d games? What? The second stick was made specifically FOR 3d games. And yet Nintendo changed it nearly almost 20 years after the fact.

I've never played a 3d game and thought, you know, it would be great if the right stick were where the face buttons are located.
Title: Re: Emandematics Thread: Mobile games outsell Rahx 3:1
Post by: Himu on June 19, 2014, 11:21:01 PM
:yeshrug

I certainly didn't chastise for the changing times. I just merely defended the f2p model. If they or you took it as people being unable to adapt, it definitely wasn't my intention.

Maybe I feel this way because I don't have a Wii U. I'd like to have one. So it really isn't a deal breaker, as I'm sure I'll adapt because I try to be an open-minded person. But from my experience so far, I don't like the placement and I don't like that so many controller makers are copying it.
Title: Re: Emandematics Thread: Mobile games outsell Rahx 3:1
Post by: tiesto on June 19, 2014, 11:24:46 PM
WiiU controller isn't too bad, especially compared to the tablet. Works fine for me with dpad/buttons (NES Remix) and left analog/buttons (Mario 3D)
Title: Re: Emandematics Thread: Mobile games outsell Rahx 3:1
Post by: The Legend of Sunblade on June 19, 2014, 11:26:43 PM
From the few times I've used a Wii U (both gamepad and Pro controller), I can't say I'd be comfortable doing FPS with the right stick above the face buttons. Most shooters use X (PS)/A (Xbox) /whateveristhelowestbutton as the jump button, which makes having the stick on the bottom be the better option since your thumb has easy access to that button while you're tilting the stick.

Then again, playing shooters on Wii U...  :teehee
Title: Re: Emandematics Thread: Mobile games outsell Rahx 3:1
Post by: Tasty on June 19, 2014, 11:27:04 PM
Quote from: Formerly Known As Himuro on June 19, 2014, 11:21:01 PM
I try to be an open-minded person.

:dead
Title: Re: Emandematics Thread: Mobile games outsell Rahx 3:1
Post by: Himu on June 19, 2014, 11:31:08 PM
How is that funny at all? Especially coming from you?
Title: Re: Emandematics Thread: Mobile games outsell Rahx 3:1
Post by: Himu on June 19, 2014, 11:36:59 PM
Anyways, fps games are more than just aiming and shooting. You have to maneuver and jump constantly to get the other players out of your hair and make it harder for them to shoot you. Having the right stick far away from the bottom buttons, as sunblade said. Is a mismatch. In fact, we don't even need to use this for fps games. We can use it for something like The upcoming Bayonetta 2. In bayo and similar 3d action games you turn the camera around all the time to get a scope of the action while you play. And the right stick is above the jump/slash bottoms? In Bayonetta? I'm sorry if that doesn't sound like fun to me, himufit or not. In fact, it sounds terrible. But I'd love to hear someone who has played a 3d action game on Wii U (Musou? Monster Hunter?) chime in.
Title: Re: Emandematics Thread: Mobile games outsell Rahx 3:1
Post by: Tasty on June 19, 2014, 11:47:00 PM
Quote from: Formerly Known As Himuro on June 19, 2014, 11:31:08 PM
How is that funny at all? Especially coming from you?

Himu, when you said you were going to try and troll me more I probably took it a bit too seriously. The best you're capable of is trolling yourself.
Title: Re: Emandematics Thread: Mobile games outsell Rahx 3:1
Post by: Himu on June 19, 2014, 11:49:41 PM
God. Please stop posting
Title: Re: Emandematics Thread: Mobile games outsell Rahx 3:1
Post by: Himu on June 19, 2014, 11:51:54 PM
Of course Andy's fine with it. anyone with a non-partisan view?
Title: Re: Emandematics Thread: Mobile games outsell Rahx 3:1
Post by: Tasty on June 19, 2014, 11:56:40 PM
I haven't minded any of the systems or controllers I've played MH on.

Tri + Wii Classic Controller Pro = Great
3U + 3DS Circle Pad/Touchscreen = Not Bad
3U + Wii U GamePad = Decent
3U + Wii U Pro Controller = Great

Going from the CC Pro, what was at the time my pick for most ergonomic controller since the GC, to the Pro Controller wasn't difficult at all. I didn't even have to think, really. I tried going back to the CC Pro, and that was a little messier. The sticks REALLY jut out on that thing, and I didn't realize until I used the Pro Controller for a period of time. The CC Pro being so light is a blessing and a curse, I love how the Pro Controller feels in-hand but a lighter controller makes for better long play sessions. But it's a non-issue since rumble and true wireless are easily, easily worth the extra weight.

Also dat battery life. 80 fuckins hours on the Pro Controller. Just holy shit.

I feel like camera control is easier on the Pro Controller, and in MH when you need to move the camera you really need to move it so it's nice having it right there. Some attacks and combos are a bit less nice to pull off, but you get used to it.

Edit- Some people swear by the Wiimote and Nunchuk for Tri but I couldn't switch from it fast enough. Tried putting in two missions with it and the waggle was almost unbearable.
Title: Re: Emandematics Thread: Mobile games outsell Rahx 3:1
Post by: Himu on June 19, 2014, 11:58:01 PM
As for dpad being moved, that never bothered me. Dpad being moved doesn't really change how the controls of a game is played. Right stick gets a lot of use in 3d games, but so do face buttons, so the comparison makes no sense. More than that, upon choosing new controller designs, neither Sony nor Microsoft - the two hardware makers who have WAY more games of the type you're talking about - continued with right sticks being below face buttons. Only Nintendo has done this. Thus, logically, it has to be a case of Nintendo trying to be a special snowflake in their game controllers.
Title: Re: Emandematics Thread: Mobile games outsell Rahx 3:1
Post by: Himu on June 20, 2014, 12:20:32 AM
Fine. I express an opinion and every time I do, you have to tell me why I'm wrong and you're talking about me being talking to a wall? The entire discussion you have waved away every rebuttal I've made. I'm not trying to be rude. I'm just trying to say how I feel. I have always taken your opinions with high esteem and regard, and you've made it clear you do not do the same for me.
Title: Re: Emandematics Thread: Mobile games outsell Rahx 3:1
Post by: Tasty on June 20, 2014, 12:23:10 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/IU7vAMm.gif)
Title: Re: Emandematics Thread: Mobile games outsell Rahx 3:1
Post by: Joe Molotov on June 20, 2014, 12:24:47 AM
Quote from: Tasty Meat on June 20, 2014, 12:23:10 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/IU7vAMm.gif)

(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_me0s0uj5bg1ro8ba4o1_400.gif)
Title: Re: Emandematics Thread: Mobile games outsell Rahx 3:1
Post by: Tasty on June 20, 2014, 12:27:22 AM
:lol
Title: Re: Emandematics Thread: Mobile games outsell Rahx 3:1
Post by: Purple Filth on June 20, 2014, 02:14:28 AM
what the fuck happened in here. :beli
Title: Re: Emandematics Thread: Mobile games outsell Rahx 3:1
Post by: Rahxephon91 on June 20, 2014, 02:24:21 AM
Quote from: Purple Filth on June 20, 2014, 02:14:28 AM
what the fuck happened in here. :beli
Another Rahxephon level argument.
Title: Re: Emandematics Thread: Mobile games outsell Rahx 3:1
Post by: Damian79 on June 20, 2014, 03:02:24 AM
It seems Nintendo screwed the pro controller.  While i dont understand why the closeness of of the dpad and buttons is an issue, since i never had a problem using 2 analogs there, i can see how holding down 3 buttons(yba) can be difficult long term as the thumb would be in a lateral postion.  I will have to buy a wii u to see though.
Title: Re: Emandematics Thread: Mobile games outsell Rahx 3:1
Post by: huckleberry on June 20, 2014, 05:40:46 AM
Quote from: Eel O'Brian on June 19, 2014, 07:32:12 PM
http://www.gamevice.com

(http://gamevice.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/GameviceOpen_Alt_06.png)

Another $100 ios controller that noone will buy...why the fuck do these companies have to price these things so high?
Title: Re: Emandematics Thread: Mobile games outsell Rahx 3:1
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on June 20, 2014, 07:01:09 AM
Millions of people bought that Wii controller for 399 so there must be a market
Title: Re: Emandematics Thread: Mobile games outsell Rahx 3:1
Post by: huckleberry on June 20, 2014, 07:09:48 AM
I hope so....would love to see a legit controller addon catch on so the prices will go down on them. The companies that make these things just price them too high and Apple seems to take too much of a hands off approach with the entire idea.
Title: Re: Emandematics Thread: Mobile games outsell Rahx 3:1
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on June 20, 2014, 07:24:51 AM
I dont think apple really wants this, they are bringing in trucks of money now because anyone can play touch games. SIMPLE SHIT. thats their motto.
Title: Re: Emandematics Thread: Mobile games outsell Rahx 3:1
Post by: huckleberry on June 20, 2014, 07:38:13 AM
You think they are the ones dictating the pricing on these things? That sucks even more.
Title: Re: Emandematics Thread: Face button placement is the defining issue of our times
Post by: AdmiralViscen on June 20, 2014, 09:58:27 AM
The real problem with the Wii u pro is that it doesn't have a fucking headphone jack
Title: Re: Emandematics Thread: Face button placement is the defining issue of our times
Post by: Shaka Khan on June 23, 2014, 02:05:02 AM
Fun fact: Two decorated Bore members were partially responsible for NPD's crackdown on the old leaks...

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=117767489&postcount=3888
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=4809086&postcount=1

Good jon, guys.

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Title: Re: Emandematics Thread: Face button placement is the defining issue of our times
Post by: Joe Molotov on June 23, 2014, 06:49:58 AM
:dead
Title: Re: Emandematics Thread: Face button placement is the defining issue of our times
Post by: radioheadrule83 on June 23, 2014, 07:03:54 AM
Quote from: Shaka Khan on June 23, 2014, 02:05:02 AM
Fun fact: Two decorated Bore members were partially responsible for NPD's crackdown on the old leaks...

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=117767489&postcount=3888
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=4809086&postcount=1

Good jon, guys.

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Title: Re: Emandematics Thread: Face button placement is the defining issue of our times
Post by: Brehvolution on June 23, 2014, 01:41:44 PM
Quote from: radioheadrule83 on June 23, 2014, 07:03:54 AM
Quote from: Shaka Khan on June 23, 2014, 02:05:02 AM
Fun fact: Two decorated Bore members were partially responsible for NPD's crackdown on the old leaks...

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=117767489&postcount=3888
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=4809086&postcount=1

Good jon, guys.

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Title: Re: Emandematics Thread: Face button placement is the defining issue of our times
Post by: Cascade on June 23, 2014, 02:36:02 PM
Quote from: radioheadrule83 on June 23, 2014, 07:03:54 AM
Quote from: Shaka Khan on June 23, 2014, 02:05:02 AM
Fun fact: Two decorated Bore members were partially responsible for NPD's crackdown on the old leaks...

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=117767489&postcount=3888
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=4809086&postcount=1

Good jon, guys.

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Title: Re: Emandematics Thread: Face button placement is the defining issue of our times
Post by: thisismyusername on June 23, 2014, 04:21:09 PM
:dead
Title: Re: Emandematics Thread: Face button placement is the defining issue of our times
Post by: Shaka Khan on June 23, 2014, 06:03:57 PM
Quote from: radioheadrule83 on June 23, 2014, 07:03:54 AM
Can't read, needs a login - cliffs?

- 2006, Oct's NPD, People are super hyped
- Oblivion comes up with a tagline for the month's NPD
- Joe Molotov provides a movie trailer script for the month's NPD
- A third person creates a couple of movie posters for the month's NPD
- A fourth person produces an actual trailer using the material, uploads it to youtube (currently unavailable)
- Someone decides the series of events were so funny it should be recapped in its own thread
- NPD group takes notice of the thread, is not happy, takes action
Title: Re: Emandematics Thread: Face button placement is the defining issue of our times
Post by: Himu on July 04, 2014, 12:24:01 AM
Can this thread please be stickied? Have no way else to find it when rumbler gives it thread titles like this
Title: Re: Emandematics Thread: Face button placement is the defining issue of our times
Post by: Himu on July 04, 2014, 08:39:48 PM
:bow JOE
Title: Re: Emandematics Thread: Face button placement is the defining issue of our times
Post by: recursivelyenumerable on July 06, 2014, 06:02:33 AM
emandematics  ???
Title: Re: Emandematics Thread: Face button placement is the defining issue of our times
Post by: Himu on July 06, 2014, 10:25:21 AM
Exactly.
Title: Re: Emandematics Thread: Face button placement is the defining issue of our times
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on July 13, 2014, 01:32:47 PM
Could we put the word "sales" in the thread title? Maybe? Anybody? Bueller?
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Great Rumbler on July 13, 2014, 01:35:42 PM
Seeing as we've passed beyond the candy bar phase of this thread, a new name is indeed warranted.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Pringo on July 17, 2014, 08:14:11 PM
July NPD is up.

Overall retail sales were up 24% year over year.
Hardware sales were up 106% year over year.
Software sales were down 3% year over year.

Software:

1. Watch Dogs (PS4, 360, Xbox One, PS3, PC)
2. Mario Kart 8 (Wii U)
3. Minecraft (360, PS3)
4. UFC (PS4, Xbox One)
5. FIFA 14 (PS4, 360, Xbox One, PS3, Vita)
6. NBA 2K14 (360, PS3, PS4, Xbox One, PC)
7. Wolfenstein: The New Order (PS4, Xbox One, 360, PS3, PC)
8. Call of Duty: Ghosts (360, PS4, PS3, Xbox One, Wii U, PC)
9. Tomodachi Life (3DS)
10. Grand Theft Auto V (360, PS3)

Notes:
-Tomodachi Life: 175K (retail + digital)
-"Xbox adds that XB1 and 360 'combined sold the most games across all console platforms.' #NPD"
-Mario Kart: 470K (physical + digital, 885K LTD)

Hardware:

PS4: #1 best selling
3DS: 150K (up 55% over May, was 225K last June)
Wii U: ~140K (up 233% over last June)

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=857224
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Huff on July 17, 2014, 11:05:59 PM
(http://www.gamecrate.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/NPDJune2014Console.jpg)

oscar this seem legit?
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Shaka Khan on July 18, 2014, 12:43:11 AM
It was leaked on chartzzz' forums by being linked from another source. That source has since been censored on GAF (by users) for protection.

I haven't figured out what it was yet though. Can't be bothered to lurk in Zzz too.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: HyperZoneWasAwesome on July 18, 2014, 12:49:24 AM
holy crap, those handheld numbers.

and I'm presuming the lions share of 'other' consoles would be Ouya (because what else is really out there).  Which had its national retail debut in June of 13 (accounts for last year's numbers), and makes for its horrendously lousy showing this year.

I hate watching the industry go down like this (logs on back to Steam).
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Shaka Khan on July 18, 2014, 12:51:12 AM
Re: Leak

"Gamecrate's owned by newegg I guess."
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: pilonv1 on July 18, 2014, 04:40:18 AM
looks legit to me
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on July 18, 2014, 04:55:50 AM
Now, this is a story all about how
My gaming habits got flipped-turned upside down
And I'd like to take a minute
Just sit right there
I'll tell you how I came to buy everything on my iPad Air

On Nintendo NES I was born and raised
Kicking it with Mario was where I spent most of my days
Chillin' out maxin' relaxin' all cool
And all shootin some Duck Hunt after school
When Evil Sony who were up to no good
Started making trouble in my childhood
I got in one little taste and I wasn't prepared
For when things would turn to worse with the iPad Air

I begged and pleaded with Ken day after day
But he packed his suit case and went on his way
He gave me a kiss and then he pulled out his ticket
He put on his Discman on and said, 'I might as well kick it'.

First class, yo this is bad
Playing Bru Ray movies on this old tube of glass.
Is this what Kens future vision was like?
Hmmmmm this might be alright.

But wait I hear it's prissy, bourgeois, all that
Is this the type of place that Ken was hinting at?
I don't think so
I'll see when I get there
I wasn't prepared for the curse of iPad Air

Well,shit happened and when the iPhone came out
There was a dude who looked like a hippy standing there with my name out
I ain't trying to be a mactard yet
I just got here
I sprang with the quickness like lightning, disappeared

I whistled for Playstation and when it came near
The license plate said wack and it had dice in the mirror
If anything I could say that this cab was rare
But I thought 'Nah, forget it' - 'Yo, lets get an iPad Air'

The store clerk said it was the 7 or 8
And I yelled to the Playstation 'Yo homes smell ya later'
I looked at my kingdom
I was finally there
To sit on my throne and play on my iPad Air
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on July 18, 2014, 04:56:06 AM
Now I should get back to work for reals
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: AdmiralViscen on July 18, 2014, 09:41:27 AM
Quote from: HyperZoneWasAwesome on July 18, 2014, 12:49:24 AM
holy crap, those handheld numbers.

and I'm presuming the lions share of 'other' consoles would be Ouya (because what else is really out there).  Which had its national retail debut in June of 13 (accounts for last year's numbers), and makes for its horrendously lousy showing this year.

I hate watching the industry go down like this (logs on back to Steam).

Ps2
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on July 20, 2014, 11:18:35 PM
Day One edition Xbones still on Amazon.com what a flop of a system  :lol :lol :lol
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Pringo on July 21, 2014, 01:17:40 AM
June software:

(https://i.imgur.com/2CKsdNf.jpg)

Console LTD sales:

(https://i.imgur.com/Vb2YPuM.jpg)
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on July 21, 2014, 02:48:40 AM
Great, this means kids and non gamers are now playing on phones and tablets, while the hardcore market is the same  :pimp
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Himu on July 21, 2014, 02:51:39 AM
Quote from: Premium Lager on July 21, 2014, 02:48:40 AM
Great, this means kids and non gamers are now playing on phones and tablets, while the hardcore market is the same  :pimp

???
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on July 21, 2014, 02:54:59 AM
All those DS and Wii sales Himu.

Oscar will prob say something like "but the pubs used money from that shovelware to finance their hollywood games"  , but that don' matter!
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Himu on July 21, 2014, 03:12:56 AM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on July 21, 2014, 03:09:53 AM
hey now, i could also say that "kids who get their start on tablets/mobiles are unlikely to venture back to the dedicated console market when they get older, meaning there will be insufficient replacement for older hardcores who check out of the hobby and/or die"

that one is pretty obvious
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: archnemesis on July 21, 2014, 04:06:01 AM
Kids playing Minecraft transition quite smoothly between different platforms. The game has already sold more on consoles than on PC and I expect strong sales from the XB1/PS4 versions in August.

Doesn't the increased PC market growth offset the decline in home consoles and handhelds? It seems to me that the overall market is continuing to grow and people are buying all kinds of games.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Himu on July 21, 2014, 07:48:09 AM
Serious question. Why do gamers hate on "casual" games like Peggle but worship vapid story game experiences? Why are "casual" games so threatening? Many of today's "casual" games are just old genres. Why is Angry Bird Star Wars and Cut the Rope Experiments bad, but hollywood gaming blockbuster number 99999 good?
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: pilonv1 on July 21, 2014, 08:45:20 AM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on July 21, 2014, 05:54:21 AM
Console gaming has also taken a very heavy hit, even as budgets climb higher and higher. 

Also doesn't help that consumers have been through a few generations of gaming now and there's very little newness amongst traditional console games.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Takao on July 21, 2014, 04:45:44 PM
Does that Amazon TV thing count in the "Others" section?
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on July 22, 2014, 04:45:05 PM
MS only shipped 1.1 million "xbox family" in q4

Yeah bone is dead in the water it seems
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on July 22, 2014, 05:10:39 PM
Cant wait on those 3/4 game bundles in EU
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Himu on July 23, 2014, 01:30:27 PM
http://www.maximumpc.com/bragging_rights_pc_gaming_market_maintains_sales_lead_over_consoles_2014
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Himu on July 26, 2014, 12:20:02 PM
http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2014-07-24-pc-is-decimating-console-just-through-price-romero

Dun dun dun another bites the dust-AHHHH!
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Joe Molotov on July 26, 2014, 12:52:33 PM
John Romero's hair makes a good point. :rock
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: HyperZoneWasAwesome on July 27, 2014, 01:20:10 PM
well, if anybody knows anything about tanking indie studios, its John Romero.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on July 31, 2014, 05:54:36 AM
Playstation Family > Xbox family

More then 3:1 sales

PS has 3.5 million SOLD in Q1, Xbox has 1.1 million SHIPPED

(http://i.imgur.com/0GQywTu.gif)

Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Himu on July 31, 2014, 09:40:17 AM
That gif is so bad. Why is it so slow. Why are the characters heads so weird? Just....no
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Tasty on August 02, 2014, 04:03:56 PM
Wow, Lager...
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Fifstar on August 02, 2014, 06:59:14 PM
Some sales data from GAF for Germany:


Germany (through June):

Hardware LTDs:
PS4: 540,000
XB1: 170,000

PS3: 4,200,000
360: ~2,100,000



Kinda confirms my feelings that Microsoft destroyed a lot of goodwill with the X1 that the built up with the 360. PS4 also had crazy shortages during christmas and large parts of spring, so the difference could be even bigger. Obviously regarding the previous generation PS3 had a really slow start due to the price, but the 360 was a legitimate alternative, not this time around though.

Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on August 03, 2014, 05:43:32 AM
3:1 trend continues

Wouldnt be surprised if MS pulls the plug on the bone early, what a disaster
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Tasty on August 03, 2014, 02:50:18 PM
:snoop
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on August 04, 2014, 04:31:23 PM
Xbone price drop imminent

Already available here with two games for the price of a ps4

 :-*
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Himu on August 04, 2014, 08:46:41 PM
It just had a price drop. What are you talking about?
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Damian79 on August 05, 2014, 12:37:21 AM
I always hate the "family" argument when talking about singular consoles.  But that logic, Nintendo won the gamecube era.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on August 05, 2014, 02:39:30 AM
Quote from: Exodust SoulBurn on August 04, 2014, 10:15:11 PM
Stop feeding the troll, especially when it's a bad one.

Well the price drop leak is real for sure (wait for Gamescon), it's the second price drop this year. I
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: AdmiralViscen on August 05, 2014, 07:17:21 AM
Quote from: Damian79 on August 05, 2014, 12:37:21 AM
I always hate the "family" argument when talking about singular consoles.  But that logic, Nintendo won the gamecube era.

No they didn't
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Damian79 on August 05, 2014, 07:40:31 AM
Quote from: AdmiralViscen on August 05, 2014, 07:17:21 AM
Quote from: Damian79 on August 05, 2014, 12:37:21 AM
I always hate the "family" argument when talking about singular consoles.  But that logic, Nintendo won the gamecube era.

No they didn't

I was wondering when someone would call me out on that.  :lol  But you get my point right?
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: AdmiralViscen on August 05, 2014, 05:56:57 PM
Quote from: Damian79 on August 05, 2014, 07:40:31 AM
Quote from: AdmiralViscen on August 05, 2014, 07:17:21 AM
Quote from: Damian79 on August 05, 2014, 12:37:21 AM
I always hate the "family" argument when talking about singular consoles.  But that logic, Nintendo won the gamecube era.

No they didn't

I was wondering when someone would call me out on that.  :lol  But you get my point right?

No
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Damian79 on August 05, 2014, 08:52:51 PM
Would you say the vita is doing well?
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: AdmiralViscen on August 05, 2014, 08:56:37 PM
No
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Damian79 on August 05, 2014, 10:45:35 PM
See people say that Sony is doing well the vita is doing well by using the family argument.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: AdmiralViscen on August 05, 2014, 11:25:44 PM
Quote from: Damian79 on August 05, 2014, 10:45:35 PM
See people say that Sony is doing well the vita is doing well by using the family argument.

I got your point before this post  :shh

No one is saying this
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on August 07, 2014, 03:48:57 AM
Diablo 3 hits 20 million copies sold.

:bow :bow2
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Human Snorenado on August 08, 2014, 06:34:01 PM
Quote from: Premium Lager on August 07, 2014, 03:48:57 AM
Diablo 3 hits 20 million copies sold.

:bow :bow2

 :gurl
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: a slime appears on August 10, 2014, 04:12:53 PM
I hope Microsoft addresses the horrendous Xbox One sales in Europe at Gamescom by doing something, anything.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on August 11, 2014, 07:46:55 AM
299, 3/4 games, no xbl fee

Maybe that could help them get a 33% marketshare
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: pilonv1 on August 11, 2014, 08:30:56 AM
How about some interesting games

Probably too revolutionary to work
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Tasty on August 11, 2014, 09:41:52 AM
Quote from: pilonv1 on August 11, 2014, 08:30:56 AM
How about some interesting games

Probably too revolutionary to work

Samey grimdark shooters aren't "interesting?"

:mindblown
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on August 11, 2014, 10:38:07 AM
Its too late for that cause of 3 year dev cycles duh

Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Himu on August 11, 2014, 10:41:28 AM
Quote from: pilonv1 on August 11, 2014, 08:30:56 AM
How about some interesting games

Probably too revolutionary to work

not happening. even if interesting game are announced at E3, chances are it'll be a 2-3 year wait till they're out.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Joe Molotov on August 11, 2014, 10:53:12 AM
Quote from: pilonv1 on August 11, 2014, 08:30:56 AM
How about some interesting games

Probably too revolutionary to work

Nah, just remaster some old game.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on August 11, 2014, 03:54:39 PM
Xbone One remasterd of 360 games would prob still be 720p though

Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Purple Filth on August 11, 2014, 06:52:31 PM
damn seeing this EA access business and Activision watching what will happen before dipping, i might have to join Oscar on this "gaming will fucking burn" crusade tbh.

:larry
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Takao on August 11, 2014, 07:20:19 PM
Quote from: a slime appears on August 10, 2014, 04:12:53 PM
I hope Microsoft addresses the horrendous Xbox One sales in Europe at Gamescom by doing something, anything.

we got an exclusive mode in fifa bruh
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Rufus on August 11, 2014, 07:26:11 PM
Activision has Skylanders, CoD and what else? A bunch of random licenced stuff. EA has a much more diverse and numerous portfolio and I'd still call an EA sub pretty tenuous, but I can see people be satisfied with the offer. Ubisoft too. But not Activision. They tried with CoD Elite and that didn't do well enough.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Purple Filth on August 11, 2014, 07:35:06 PM
Quote from: Rufus on August 11, 2014, 07:26:11 PM
Activision has Skylanders, CoD and what else? A bunch of random licenced stuff. EA has a much more diverse and numerous portfolio and I'd still call an EA sub pretty tenuous, but I can see people be satisfied with the offer. Ubisoft too. But not Activision. They tried with CoD Elite and that didn't do well enough.

Its not just the possibility of Activision joining but what it might enable for the others (you even added Ubisoft yourself  :lol).

Imagining every "big publisher" with something like this (even if on paper its not fucking worth it) is pretty :-X tbh.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Rufus on August 11, 2014, 07:42:17 PM
Oh, no disagreement there. It's not gonna be Activision though, and nobody's gonna miss them, even CoD fans. Especially not them, because that's all they'd want an Acit-sub for.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on August 12, 2014, 01:29:32 AM
What does activision have?

World of warcraft
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Rufus on August 12, 2014, 07:06:11 AM
Which already has a subscription. The only thing they could do is to offer something that costs maybe double the WoW sub, but comes with CoD and I really don't know what else, but I'm not sure if those audiences overlap much...
The Activision gamer family package? WoW for mom, CoD for dad, Skylanders for the little ones? Eh.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Tasty on August 12, 2014, 09:46:20 AM
If only GH hadn't crashed.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on August 13, 2014, 12:43:19 AM
Skylnders is coming to tablets

Hearthstone is already a top 3 grossing app and now this
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Pringo on August 14, 2014, 07:16:05 PM
NPD Sales Results for July 2014


Overall: $514.3 million (up 16% over last year)

Hardware: $198.8 million (up 100%)

Software: $178.2 (down 15%)

Software

1. The Last of Us (PS4, PS3)
2. Minecraft (360, PS3)
3. FIFA 14 (360,PS4, Xbox One, PS3, Vita)
4. Watch Dogs (PS4, 360, PS3, Xbox One, PC)
5. Mario Kart 8 (Wii U)
6. Call of Duty: Ghosts (Xbox One, 360, PS4, PS3, Wii U, PC)
7. Grand Theft Auto V (360, PS3)
8. Sniper Elite III (PS4, Xbox One, 360, PS3)
9. NBA 2K14 (360, PS3, PS4, Xbox One, PC)
10. Lego Marvel Super Heroes (360, PS3, 3DS, DS, PS4, Wii U, Xbox One, Vita, PC)

Hardware:

Playstation 4: #1 Best Selling
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Joe Molotov on August 14, 2014, 08:05:29 PM
:bow Citizen Kane Remastered :bow2

:bow Hardcore Film Buffs :bow2

:bow Software down 15% :bow2
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Steve Contra on August 14, 2014, 08:47:48 PM
Isn't software mainly down because NCAA is no longer a thing?
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: tiesto on August 14, 2014, 09:20:14 PM
Sniper Elite III? Never heard of that series, so I'm surprised to see it on the NPD.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Joe Molotov on August 14, 2014, 09:36:16 PM
Quote from: tiesto on August 14, 2014, 09:20:14 PM
Sniper Elite III? Never heard of that series, so I'm surprised to see it on the NPD.

Famous for being the sequel to the game were you could snipe Nazi balls with testicle-splattering xray cam action!
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: a slime appears on August 14, 2014, 09:42:30 PM
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Also, don't be foold by a PC demo with a One controller. There just aren't official drivers for the DualShock 4 so it's just easier to roll with a One for maximum on-the-road compatibility.
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Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: headwalk on August 14, 2014, 09:43:42 PM
Quote from: tiesto on August 14, 2014, 09:20:14 PM
Sniper Elite III? Never heard of that series, so I'm surprised to see it on the NPD.

the top 3 is a re-release, a 360 port of a five year old PC game and a nine month old annual iteration of a sport which your country traditionally hates. basically anything which gets released to next gen consoles is probably going to reach the top 10.

people who are jubilant about TLOU cruising in at number one are missing the burning forest for the trees.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: pilonv1 on August 14, 2014, 10:51:02 PM
Quote from: Steve Contra on August 14, 2014, 08:47:48 PM
Isn't software mainly down because NCAA is no longer a thing?

Yes, that's why it's been down for months now
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on August 15, 2014, 02:25:43 AM
Im pretty sure digital is up 15% yoy

Im renaming the PS4 the Praystation , because its the only hope we got
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Take My Breh Away on August 15, 2014, 06:48:09 AM
Quote from: Premium Lager on August 15, 2014, 02:25:43 AM
Im pretty sure digital is up 15% yoy

Im renaming the PS4 the Praystation , because its the only hope we got

May as well ready the fedora then because it hasn't got a prayer :gaben
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: thisismyusername on August 15, 2014, 08:11:44 AM
Quote from: Joe Molotov on August 14, 2014, 09:36:16 PM
Quote from: tiesto on August 14, 2014, 09:20:14 PM
Sniper Elite III? Never heard of that series, so I'm surprised to see it on the NPD.

Famous for being the sequel to the game were you could snipe Nazi balls with testicle-splattering xray cam action!

(http://i.imgur.com/FEGR3r2.gif)

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Also, don't be foold by a PC demo with a One controller. There just aren't official drivers for the DualShock 4 so it's just easier to roll with a One for maximum on-the-road compatibility.
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And the ability to port to PC when your stuff bombs on the consoles
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 :rejoice
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: headwalk on August 15, 2014, 09:21:51 AM
PS4 - 187K
XBO - 131K
WIIU - 80k-ish

brace for oscar.

Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Himu on August 15, 2014, 09:24:40 AM
:rofl

Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Joe Molotov on August 15, 2014, 10:52:48 AM
Wii U sales don't look so bad anymore.  :bow2
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on August 15, 2014, 11:02:39 AM
:bow PS4 Don of the slums :bow2
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: AdmiralViscen on August 15, 2014, 11:43:44 AM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on August 15, 2014, 10:31:42 AM
no need to brace for me, I saw it all earlier through my source.  I just don't say much anymore cuz I think people are tired of me spiking the ball on this topic.

What about 3DS?
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: MCD on August 15, 2014, 11:47:36 AM
Quote from: headwalk on August 15, 2014, 09:21:51 AM
PS4 - 187K
XBO - 131K
WIIU - 80k-ish

brace for oscar.


Only 56k difference. the fud is dying.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Steve Contra on August 15, 2014, 01:33:15 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on August 15, 2014, 01:52:29 AM
Quote from: Steve Contra on August 14, 2014, 08:47:48 PM
Isn't software mainly down because NCAA is no longer a thing?

this month, yeah, but reasons don't keep the lights on.
Oh I wasn't suggesting consoles are somehow not completely fucked, because they are. 
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Mupepe on August 15, 2014, 01:51:13 PM
Quote from: MCD on August 15, 2014, 11:47:36 AM
Quote from: headwalk on August 15, 2014, 09:21:51 AM
PS4 - 187K
XBO - 131K
WIIU - 80k-ish

brace for oscar.


Only 56k difference. the fud is dying.
I for one welcome our new MS overlords
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Purple Filth on August 15, 2014, 01:52:39 PM
PC gaming :smug
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Fifstar on August 15, 2014, 02:49:14 PM
Backlog Gaming  :smug
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Joe Molotov on August 15, 2014, 02:59:41 PM
Loli gaming. :smug
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Human Snorenado on August 16, 2014, 01:52:24 PM
Steam sale gaming :rejoice
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Take My Breh Away on August 16, 2014, 05:46:47 PM
Buying a bunch of games in steam sale then only playing DOTA 2 gaming :goty
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Purple Filth on August 17, 2014, 12:02:14 AM
Buying a bunch of games on a steam sale any not playing any gaming :fbm
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Momo on August 21, 2014, 03:12:38 PM
Buying a bunch of games and pretending that I actually still play games on forums to not lose face gaming   :goty2
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on August 30, 2014, 07:00:00 AM
Xbox one + Halo + Destiny = 399 euro

Now were talking
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: a slime appears on September 01, 2014, 10:36:51 AM
Had a long convo with a buddy of mine from highschool that now runs a major portion of Nintendo's sales force in Japan. Thanks to this thread and other sources, I knew just about as much as he did about the industry health there and that's his job. :lol

Things are super bad over in glorious Nippon but we already knew that.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Pringo on September 10, 2014, 04:48:19 PM
"Activision Sells in More Than $500 Million of Destiny Worldwide as of Day One"

http://investor.activision.com/releasedetail.cfm?ReleaseID=870169
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Pringo on September 11, 2014, 06:51:51 PM
NPD Sales Results for August 2014

Overall:

Overall retail sales are up 8% year over year.
Hardware sales were up 116% year over year.
Software sales were down 21% year over year.

Software:

01. Madden NFL 15 (PS4, Xbox One, 360, PS3)
02. Diablo III: Reaper of Souls (PS4, Xbox One, 360, PS3, PC)
03. Minecraft (360, PS3)
04. The Last of Us (PS4, PS3)
05. Call of Duty: Ghosts (360, Xbox One, PS4, PS3, PC, Wii U)
06. Lego Marvel Super Heroes (360, PS3, Wii U, PS4, 3DS, DS, Xbox One, Vita, PC)
07. Plants vs. Zombies: Garden Warfare (360, PS3, PS4, Xbox One)
08. Watch Dogs (PS4, 360, PS3, Xbox One, PC)
09. Battlefield 4 (360, PS3, PS4, Xbox One, PC)
10. The Lego Movie Videogame (360, 3DS, PS3, Wii U, PS4, Xbox One, Vita)

Hardware:

PS4: #1 best selling

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=893306
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on September 11, 2014, 08:39:54 PM
ruh roh raggy run rook ro rood ror ricroroft reehee3e
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on September 11, 2014, 09:29:34 PM
it was hilarious as is microsoft crashing and burning
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: I'm a Puppy! on September 11, 2014, 09:31:43 PM
Quote from: MyNameIsMethodis on September 11, 2014, 08:39:54 PM
ruh roh raggy run rook ro rood ror ricroroft reehee3e
Are you high right now?
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Great Rumbler on September 11, 2014, 09:34:00 PM
Eventually I start to forget why I murdered Methodis in the digital realm, but then a post like this one pops up.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: chronovore on September 11, 2014, 10:13:06 PM
Quote from: a slime appears on September 01, 2014, 10:36:51 AM
Had a long convo with a buddy of mine from highschool that now runs a major portion of Nintendo's sales force in Japan. Thanks to this thread and other sources, I knew just about as much as he did about the industry health there and that's his job. :lol

Things are super bad over in glorious Nippon but we already knew that.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/davidthier/2014/09/10/xbox-ones-first-week-of-sales-in-japan-was-dismal/

People who are surprised by this, raise your hand!
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: pilonv1 on September 11, 2014, 10:44:38 PM
Hardware up, software down with Madden and Diablo out. What a positive story that is for publishers of console games.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: headwalk on September 11, 2014, 10:58:24 PM
ps4: 190
bone: 160
wiiu: who cares

all on a day when the grand saviour of next gen software is revealed to be a barren slab of mediocrity.


Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Himu on September 11, 2014, 11:02:57 PM
Software down with Madden and Diablo? 190k and 160k?

:rofl :rofl :rofl
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Himu on September 11, 2014, 11:11:46 PM
"it's just temporary!"
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: I'm a Puppy! on September 11, 2014, 11:37:44 PM
Remind me, does Nintendo lose money on every Wii u sold or are they not subsidizing the system?
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: The Legend of Sunblade on September 12, 2014, 12:08:31 AM
AFAIK, there's mixed reports on whether the PS4 loses money per system sold, with Kaz saying its already profitable (http://www.gamespot.com/articles/sony-says-ps4-unlike-their-previous-consoles-is-already-contributing-profit/1100-6419822/), while Xbone loses a lot more (not even counting sunk costs into advertising and the like). WiiU was selling at a loss for a long time as well, but has stopped since a few months ago due to finally needing to make more units than all the ones they've got sitting in warehouses. (http://wiiudaily.com/2014/05/nintendo-no-more-wii-u-loss/)
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: pilonv1 on September 12, 2014, 07:01:21 AM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on September 11, 2014, 11:10:01 PM
the part that loses money is up, the part that makes money is down, the top ten are all on last gen

burn baby burn

Obvious that the hardest of the hardcore are all that's left, last one please turn out the lights
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Take My Breh Away on September 12, 2014, 07:15:03 AM
Quote from: The Legend of Sunblade on September 12, 2014, 12:08:31 AM
AFAIK, there's mixed reports on whether the PS4 loses money per system sold, with Kaz saying its already profitable (http://www.gamespot.com/articles/sony-says-ps4-unlike-their-previous-consoles-is-already-contributing-profit/1100-6419822/), while Xbone loses a lot more (not even counting sunk costs into advertising and the like). WiiU was selling at a loss for a long time as well, but has stopped since a few months ago due to finally needing to make more units than all the ones they've got sitting in warehouses. (http://wiiudaily.com/2014/05/nintendo-no-more-wii-u-loss/)

Most of that's assumed out of the Quarterly financial statements. PS4 only seems to be making a razor thin contribution around $40 mill per quarter so it's not the profitable beast Kaz was trying to push to the investors (That also needed Mobile and TV hardware sales to back it up. Those two are taking turns in tanking. Especially since the Xperia Z2 got murdered in cold blood by the HTC M8). Nintendo seems to drop $100 million in the black or red depending on a new Pokemon or a big release but the Wii-U ain't helping. Microsoft's harder to tell because 360 software is still going and they ended up dropping something ludicrous like $890m in the black last FY despite Xbone launch eating $400m of their revenue. Most likely because 360 software sales are still an absolute gold mine. No one's that prepared to move yet
 
Everyone's screwed and Sony and MS making back up plans. Sony's started publishing some games on iOS/Android like Counterspy and readying streaming while MS could drop and go PC any time (Lets face it. Halo MCC on Steam would make them back the entire R&D for the Xbone within a week. PC gamers really, REALLY want that game). Nintendo are fucked because they don't seem to have an escape route yet and are too goddamn stubborn to move on. 

Still, next month is going to be interesting since Destiny's hype literally died in a day. Watch_Dogs and Destiny. Sony sure can pick those co-marketing deals lately.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: chronovore on September 12, 2014, 07:20:56 AM
Can someone pls. photoshop a pic of Bobby Kotick playing the fiddle?
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Human Snorenado on September 12, 2014, 04:57:12 PM
Quote from: pilonv1 on September 12, 2014, 07:01:21 AM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on September 11, 2014, 11:10:01 PM
the part that loses money is up, the part that makes money is down, the top ten are all on last gen

burn baby burn

Obvious that the hardest of the hardcore are all that's left, last one please turn out the lights

demi, it falls to you. Fortunately, I think there's a cheevo for that.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: a slime appears on September 12, 2014, 10:15:47 PM
Quote from: chronovore on September 11, 2014, 10:13:06 PM
Quote from: a slime appears on September 01, 2014, 10:36:51 AM
Had a long convo with a buddy of mine from highschool that now runs a major portion of Nintendo's sales force in Japan. Thanks to this thread and other sources, I knew just about as much as he did about the industry health there and that's his job. :lol

Things are super bad over in glorious Nippon but we already knew that.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/davidthier/2014/09/10/xbox-ones-first-week-of-sales-in-japan-was-dismal/

People who are surprised by this, raise your hand!

YEP. They're only really there to get support from Japanese developers though.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Takao on September 14, 2014, 12:08:37 PM
Quote from: Take My Breh Away on September 12, 2014, 07:15:03 AM
Everyone's screwed and Sony and MS making back up plans. Sony's started publishing some games on iOS/Android like Counterspy and readying streaming while MS could drop and go PC any time (Lets face it. Halo MCC on Steam would make them back the entire R&D for the Xbone within a week. PC gamers really, REALLY want that game). Nintendo are fucked because they don't seem to have an escape route yet and are too goddamn stubborn to move on.

This is just Sony's mobile tie-in crap again. It's not the actual game you can get on PSN, but some micro spinoff. I don't know why they gave it the same name and made it paid.

I expect that to be Sony's portable strategy going forward. Just PS Now and cheapo tie-in games.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on September 17, 2014, 09:07:37 AM
XB1  |      3.015 |     25.764 |            |     28.779 |            |      28.779 |
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: magus on September 24, 2014, 10:27:45 AM
1. [3DS] Super Smash Bros. for 3DS – 321,363 / 1,266,008
2. [3DS] Youkai Watch 2 – 56,380 / 2,525,591
3. [WIU] Bayonetta 2 – 38,828 / NEW
4. [PS3] Destiny – 18,393 / 67,896
5. [3DS] Dragon Quest X – 13,948 / 89,299
6. [PS4] Destiny – 13,014 / 104,291
7. [PS3] Naruto Shippuden: Ultimate Ninja Storm Revolution – 9,389 / 49,569
8. [PSV] Toukiden Extreme – 7,936 / 129,356
9. [WIU] Mario Kart 8 – 6,396 / 672,313
10. [3DS] Youkai Watch – 4,554 / 1,274,296
11. [3DS] Yoshi’s New Island – 4,334 / 184,048
12. [PS3] GTA V New Price Version – 3,087 / 63,395
13. [3DS] Pokemon X/Y – 2,944 / 4,144,405
14. [PS4] Sengoku Musou 4 – 2,840 / 19,131
15. [3DS] Dragon Ball Heroes: Ultimate Mission 2 – 2,792 / 139,935
16. [3DS] Medabots 8 – 2,763 / 48,069
17. [3DS] Taiko no Tatsujin: Don to Katsu no Jikuu Daibouken – 2,719 / 163,540
18. [PS3] Diablo III – 2,611 / 32,151
19. [3DS] Animal Crossing: New Leaf – 2,554 / 3,788,095
20. [WIU] Hyrule Warriors – 2,443 / 102,620

soooooooo is 38.000 enough to scream bomb and dance on the grave of the wii u?
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on September 24, 2014, 11:58:39 AM
I think 38k is as expected
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: I'm a Puppy! on September 24, 2014, 12:06:17 PM
38k? Wow.

Is bayonetta not as big in Japan?
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Take My Breh Away on September 24, 2014, 12:32:50 PM
And everyone's ignoring that 10 million PS4's in 9 months vs 10 million iPhone sales in a weekend elephant in the room

Consoles :neogaf
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Himu on September 24, 2014, 12:37:30 PM
Weekend? More like day.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: I'm a Puppy! on September 24, 2014, 12:41:39 PM
Quote from: Take My Breh Away on September 24, 2014, 12:32:50 PM
And everyone's ignoring that 10 million PS4's in 9 months vs 10 million iPhone sales in a weekend elephant in the room

Consoles :neogaf
Soon we'll only have toilet gaming left
 :goty2
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Great Rumbler on September 24, 2014, 12:56:04 PM
Quote from: Totally Not Ronito on September 24, 2014, 12:41:39 PM
Quote from: Take My Breh Away on September 24, 2014, 12:32:50 PM
And everyone's ignoring that 10 million PS4's in 9 months vs 10 million iPhone sales in a weekend elephant in the room

Consoles :neogaf
Soon we'll only have toilet gaming left
 :goty2

I've been having quite a bit of fun playing a game this week that has nothing to do with consoles and nothing to do with the traditional publisher funding model.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on September 24, 2014, 02:06:59 PM
Have fun playing the Evil Within on your iphone 6 breh
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on September 24, 2014, 02:47:35 PM
Quote from: Totally Not Ronito on September 24, 2014, 12:06:17 PM
38k? Wow.

Is bayonetta not as big in Japan?

"not as big"?  :neogaf

do you really think Bayonetta 2 is going to sell 38k in America? :shaq
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Human Snorenado on September 24, 2014, 02:55:26 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/09z8Dsy.jpg)
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: I'm a Puppy! on September 24, 2014, 05:32:25 PM
Quote from: Howard Alan Treesong on September 24, 2014, 02:47:35 PM
Quote from: Totally Not Ronito on September 24, 2014, 12:06:17 PM
38k? Wow.

Is bayonetta not as big in Japan?

"not as big"?  :neogaf

do you really think Bayonetta 2 is going to sell 38k in America? :shaq
Yes

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No  :fbm
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Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on September 24, 2014, 06:35:45 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on September 24, 2014, 06:05:16 PM
38k is a lot better than I was expecting.

But yes, this is a bomb.

I'm expecting US sales of 12k
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Himu on September 24, 2014, 06:40:33 PM
50k. Whoever is closest has to buy the winner a steam game.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: thisismyusername on September 24, 2014, 06:45:24 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on September 24, 2014, 06:05:16 PM
38k is a lot better than I was expecting.

But yes, this is a bomb.

Was anyone not expecting it to bomb? I mean as soon as it was Wii U only it was kiss of deathed.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: thisismyusername on September 24, 2014, 07:10:50 PM
Rest in Pepperoni's Bayonetta. Nintendo won't save you again.

Quote from: Death Ghidorah on September 24, 2014, 07:03:22 PM
It wasn't like the first was a smash hit either, despite being the most successful of the SEGA Platinum games.

Being more successful than Vanquish is a crime.  :'(
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: I'm a Puppy! on September 24, 2014, 07:15:54 PM
Quote from: Queen of Ice on September 24, 2014, 06:40:33 PM
50k. Whoever is closest has to buy the winner a steam game.
what market and by when?
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: thisismyusername on September 24, 2014, 07:18:39 PM
Quote from: Totally Not Ronito on September 24, 2014, 07:15:54 PM
Quote from: Queen of Ice on September 24, 2014, 06:40:33 PM
50k. Whoever is closest has to buy the winner a steam game.
what market and by when?

I'm assuming the US market and first week.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: cool breeze on September 24, 2014, 07:19:22 PM
technically bayonetta 2 is a double bomb if the japanese release also includes bayonetta 1.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: I'm a Puppy! on September 24, 2014, 07:35:43 PM
Quote from: thisismyusername on September 24, 2014, 07:18:39 PM
Quote from: Totally Not Ronito on September 24, 2014, 07:15:54 PM
Quote from: Queen of Ice on September 24, 2014, 06:40:33 PM
50k. Whoever is closest has to buy the winner a steam game.
what market and by when?

I'm assuming the US market and first week.
US, first week? I'll put down 15k.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Himu on September 24, 2014, 08:13:13 PM
Quote from: Totally Not Ronito on September 24, 2014, 07:15:54 PM
Quote from: Queen of Ice on September 24, 2014, 06:40:33 PM
50k. Whoever is closest has to buy the winner a steam game.
what market and by when?

NA and first month npd result
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: I'm a Puppy! on September 24, 2014, 08:21:43 PM
Quote from: Queen of Ice on September 24, 2014, 08:13:13 PM
Quote from: Totally Not Ronito on September 24, 2014, 07:15:54 PM
Quote from: Queen of Ice on September 24, 2014, 06:40:33 PM
50k. Whoever is closest has to buy the winner a steam game.
what market and by when?

NA and first month npd result
Oh first month? I'll say 30k
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Joe Molotov on September 24, 2014, 08:57:10 PM
Oscar, how many copies did Hyperdimension Neptunia Re;Birth 1 sell in NA? You have to at least tell us if it ends up outselling Bayonetta 2.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Joe Molotov on September 24, 2014, 09:08:27 PM
That's fine too, it makes me feel like I'm part of an exclusive club.  :aah
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Purple Filth on September 24, 2014, 09:11:26 PM
*sees bayo 2 numbers*

i really hope no one was expecting otherwise :beli
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on September 24, 2014, 09:30:11 PM
NA, first month? 18k.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Damian79 on September 25, 2014, 12:45:52 AM
Eh i am expecting it to sell 500k in the end.  So i think it will sell 150k.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Damian79 on September 25, 2014, 12:54:32 AM
In the end Bayo 1 sold 2 million and ~900-1m  in the US.  I am expecting a quarter of the total sales of Bayo 1.  That isnt reasonable?
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Positive Touch on September 25, 2014, 12:56:32 AM
I wish we had a :hankhill smiley to signify "that boy ain't right"
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: benjipwns on September 25, 2014, 01:07:32 AM
Quote from: Big Jumbo on September 25, 2014, 12:56:32 AM
I wish we had a :hankhill smiley to signify "that boy ain't right"
(http://38.media.tumblr.com/237e291bd743a0b36ef4eff5b758dee7/tumblr_n67malSBlK1sp7hlko5_500.jpg)
spoiler (click to show/hide)
(http://i.imgur.com/RdPQX0c.gif)
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Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: I'm a Puppy! on September 25, 2014, 01:19:58 AM
"How much will Bayo2 sell in the first Month in the US?"
"50k"
"30k"
"18k"
"150k!!"
"Shut up Squiddy!"
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: benjipwns on September 25, 2014, 01:37:52 AM
It wasn't until King of the Hill reruns went off the local stations that I realized just how much I say things from the show because Always Sunny started to surpass it.

Only they're references nobody ever gets in IRL. Whereas a Family Guy quote gets people thinking you're the funniest guy on Earth.

Except my Family Guy quoting is more obscure jokes from it.

It's a good thing others are forced to be in my presence.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Take My Breh Away on September 25, 2014, 03:46:16 AM
Quote from: benjipwns on September 25, 2014, 01:37:52 AM
It wasn't until King of the Hill reruns went off the local stations that I realized just how much I say things from the show because Always Sunny started to surpass it.

Only they're references nobody ever gets in IRL. Whereas a Family Guy quote gets people thinking you're the funniest guy on Earth.

Except my Family Guy quoting is more obscure jokes from it.

It's a good thing others are forced to be in my presence.

I had to explain "THATS MY PURSE! I DONT KNOW YOU!" to someone my junior yesterday. :goty

Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on September 25, 2014, 04:18:26 AM
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=131573555&postcount=753

Quote
Bayonetta 2 serves multiple purposes for Nintendo:
1) broaden it's portfolio
2) fill Q4 2014 with releases
3) helps its bonding with 3rd party studios
4) attract "core" non-nintendo crowd
5) hopefully make some profit

It does 1 & 2, nobody argues that. We can assume it does 3. It succeeds less in 4 & 5 - although it did make some core gamers buy a WiiU specifically for WiiU.

How many, and how does this turn out as an investment for Nintendo? That's hard to say, we can only guess.
My out-of-my-ass calculation: WiiU sales had a 2k bump last week in japan, and let's assume another 2k bought it in the months before that specifically for Bayonetta, seems reasonable. That would make 4.000 "core bayonetta fans" buy a WiiU.
For the US, let's make that 7000, and Europe 4000. I give the US a bit more because Bayonetta sold most there and is a bigger market.
That's 15000 WiiU's sold. With 40$ a console profit (console + some accessory): 600000 + 150.000 bayonetta WW sold at 35$ profit = 5.850.000$
This might be totally wrong, so feel free to play with the parameters. We also don't know what Nintendo payed Platinum for the game (10-15million would seem like a normal budget for a title like this + port of bayo1), and if Nintendo keeps the rights to release Bayonetta 2 in the future (for example in 4-5 years for it's new portable). I'd assume chances are nintendo also has those rights (but not the IP rights).

 :sabu
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: benjipwns on September 25, 2014, 05:15:28 AM
Ah yes, the core Bayonetta fanbase.

He's also forgetting the revenues from the major motion picture franchise that's sure to be coming.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Human Snorenado on September 25, 2014, 07:30:45 AM
Back before the moderation team at gaf went full spergtard, you could legit reply to posts like that with "you just typed multiple paragraphs about how Nintendo was going to make profit off Bayo2" without getting banned
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on September 25, 2014, 11:49:20 AM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on September 25, 2014, 06:55:52 AM
That is some fucking amazing napkin math nonsense

or in Bayonetta's case, kleenex math nonsense
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: D3RANG3D on September 25, 2014, 07:44:01 PM
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=131675441&postcount=1375

 :neogaf
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on September 26, 2014, 01:00:08 AM
That post was made to annoy me
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: D3RANG3D on September 26, 2014, 04:01:29 AM
Quote from: Premium Lager on September 26, 2014, 01:00:08 AM
That post was made to annoy me

 :heh :umad
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on September 26, 2014, 04:02:47 AM
 :bolo
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: tiesto on September 26, 2014, 08:07:22 AM
Honestly, I don't care how much it sells, I'm just glad the game managed to get released. The original Bayo is my favorite hack and slash style game ever.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Positive Touch on September 26, 2014, 09:05:47 AM
same. just the fact that it's out there and translated is good enough for me; I'll be able to play it someday and that's great.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Shaka Khan on September 26, 2014, 10:08:57 AM
I'll make that day happen sooner than you think bro.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Positive Touch on September 26, 2014, 03:40:42 PM
WOOOOO
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Joe Molotov on September 26, 2014, 04:11:43 PM
Shaka will come to your house and tie you up and force you to play Bayonetta one-handed mode with one hand while doing unspeakable things with your other.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Shaka Khan on September 26, 2014, 08:04:33 PM
"What Bayo should have done to become a solid seller..."

(http://i.imgur.com/201qeD2.jpg)
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: I'm a Puppy! on September 26, 2014, 08:23:52 PM
Scrolling pass that pic then reading "Unzip" at the end.

Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Joe Molotov on September 27, 2014, 12:34:25 AM
Now if Hatsune Miku was a DLC character...
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Rahxephon91 on September 29, 2014, 01:49:20 PM
It really dosent matter that Bayo 2 bombed. Everyone knew it would, but at least it's a thing. Bayo has 2 good games and will now avoid having a tired and un-needed third game. Not many series even have two good games so it's already pretty amazing.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on September 29, 2014, 01:49:59 PM
its cute how you used the word "good" and "bayonetta" in the same sentence
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Rahxephon91 on September 29, 2014, 01:55:17 PM
Quote from: MyNameIsMethodis on September 29, 2014, 01:49:59 PM
its cute how you used the word "good" and "bayonetta" in the same sentence
It isn't cute how stupid you are.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: I'm a Puppy! on September 29, 2014, 01:57:44 PM
Quote from: MyNameIsMethodis on September 29, 2014, 01:49:59 PM
its cute how you used the word "good" and "bayonetta" in the same sentence
I might not be a smart man, But I know what fun is.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on September 29, 2014, 01:59:12 PM
im sorry i dont support the objectification of women
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Rahxephon91 on September 29, 2014, 02:01:14 PM
Quote from: MyNameIsMethodis on September 29, 2014, 01:59:12 PM
im sorry i dont support the objectification of women
Just the decline of the species.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: I'm a Puppy! on September 29, 2014, 02:07:52 PM
Quote from: MyNameIsMethodis on September 29, 2014, 01:59:12 PM
im sorry i dont support the objectification of women
Would you not bang her a lot?
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Himu on September 29, 2014, 02:29:08 PM
Why do people think Bayonetta objectifies women when she fights "pure" Angels and uses bdsm to kick ass? Do they realize that sexuality doesn't equal objectification? Christ I wish people would learn something about a thing called fucking context.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on September 29, 2014, 03:08:31 PM
maybe if she covered up and didnt look like a "sexy librarian" to titulate lonely nerds she could be masqueraded as a liberal female warrior but nope
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Himu on September 29, 2014, 03:56:16 PM
bayonetta is covered up. the only skin of hers you see is her face, some of her back, and some cleavage which is mostly obscured because of her necklace. you see more of her back than you see of her boobs but okay.

please port bayonetta to pc.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on September 29, 2014, 04:03:23 PM
Why should you see any of her cleavage? it's insulting
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Human Snorenado on September 29, 2014, 04:58:36 PM
stfu, you piece of shit
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on September 29, 2014, 05:00:04 PM
i didnt know the bore was full of misogynists
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Human Snorenado on September 29, 2014, 05:14:39 PM
Good job on de-lepering methodis, demi and joe. That shit has gone swimmingly.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on September 29, 2014, 05:18:01 PM
oh boo hoo i insulted a video game you like because i dont agree with how the female protaginist is overly sexualized, how will you ever deal
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Human Snorenado on September 29, 2014, 05:23:21 PM
You don't, though. You're not capable of thoughts that advanced, you lying, worthless piece of shit. Fuck off and die.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on September 29, 2014, 05:34:01 PM
i didnt know i was posting on neo gaf
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Human Snorenado on September 29, 2014, 05:35:27 PM
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Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: I'm a Puppy! on September 29, 2014, 05:42:43 PM
Quote from: MyNameIsMethodis on September 29, 2014, 05:34:01 PM
i didnt know i was posting on neo gaf
If you were on Neogaf you'd have 20 posts from the same 5 users telling you that you're right and sexy is bad bad bad.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Purple Filth on September 29, 2014, 10:18:14 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on September 29, 2014, 07:00:40 PM
why are you guys replying to methodis

pretty much

 :what
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: sarslip on September 30, 2014, 10:05:10 AM
i can't wait for the Please Buy Bayonetta 2 circle jerk thread on the nexus
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: thisismyusername on October 01, 2014, 10:34:07 AM
Quote from: sarslip on September 30, 2014, 10:05:10 AM
i can't wait for the Please Buy Bayonetta 2 circle jerk thread on the nexus

100 Post Per Page: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=901091&page=20 Already kinda happening.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Joe Molotov on October 01, 2014, 12:03:12 PM
The Bore will just be hosting a regular Bayonetta 2 circle jerk.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Take My Breh Away on October 01, 2014, 01:35:02 PM
Quote from: Joe Molotov on October 01, 2014, 12:03:12 PM
The Bore will just be hosting a regular Bayonetta 2 circle jerk.

My body is ready

(http://i.imgur.com/vRYGu7x.gif)
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: chronovore on October 03, 2014, 10:34:30 AM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on September 29, 2014, 07:00:40 PM
why are you guys replying to methodis
I just felt lucky that no-one was using QUOTE on Methodis.

bullet: dodged
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: dmj on October 16, 2014, 06:03:28 PM
Breaking: PS4 was September's top-selling console, leading current-gen software sales including Madden NFL 15, NHL 15 & FIFA 15. Thank you 💙

https://twitter.com/PlayStation/status/522868575917191168

I really wonder what people are buying with their PS4s  ???... I've got the thing and I can't find many reasons to turn it on. 
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Supermanisdead on October 16, 2014, 06:05:59 PM
buy ps4, play yearly ea sports games  :gurl
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: AdmiralViscen on October 16, 2014, 06:15:13 PM
I don't understand why Pachter sticks his neck out with goofy, specific predictions that are liable to be shot down within a matter of days.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Take My Breh Away on October 16, 2014, 06:22:36 PM
I miss Oscar's comforting assurances consoles are dying already 

:stahp
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Himu on October 16, 2014, 06:32:33 PM
Goddamit was rooting for xbone oh well
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: The Legend of Sunblade on October 16, 2014, 06:39:17 PM
Sold almost three times as much in September as it did in August.

Even I'm scratching my head at how that happened. Didn't think Destiny would be that big.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Stoney Mason on October 16, 2014, 06:46:56 PM
Not a surprise. As far as sales the PS4 has won the next gen war. They came out of the gate better and created a lot of momentum in the diehards which filtered over to the more casual audience. MS did a lot of stupid stuff from the jump and forced kinect in there which created a pricing problem.

To their credit and the credit of Spencer they turned around alot of that stuff and have done a lot better since but the damage had already been done. The only way they could outsell the PS4 is if its cheaper. Price parity and exclusive just won't do it.

I'm happy with my xbox one but it won't win the sales crown in the US unless something odd happens or MS luckily stumbles into creating a super hot franchise which seems unlikely.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: cool breeze on October 16, 2014, 06:49:15 PM
smash bros seems to have sold really well but didn't give the 3ds a big boost.  nintendo should announce the new 3ds for america.   

Quote from: Take My Breh Away on October 16, 2014, 06:22:36 PM
I miss Oscar's comforting assurances consoles are dying already 

:stahp
Quote from: Queen of Ice on October 16, 2014, 06:32:33 PM
Goddamit was rooting for xbone oh well

chin up, Destiny sold most on xbox one excluding bundles

edit: neither forza horizon 2 or driveclub charted.  at least horizon 2 deserved to do well.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Take My Breh Away on October 16, 2014, 07:15:08 PM
Quote from: Queen of Ice on October 16, 2014, 06:32:33 PM
Goddamit was rooting for xbone oh well

Xbone will probably take November because people really want Halo.

Quote from: Stoney Mason on October 16, 2014, 06:46:56 PM
Not a surprise. As far as sales the PS4 has won the next gen war. They came out of the gate better and created a lot of momentum in the diehards which filtered over to the more casual audience. MS did a lot of stupid stuff from the jump and forced kinect in there which created a pricing problem.

To their credit and the credit of Spencer they turned around alot of that stuff and have done a lot better since but the damage had already been done. The only way they could outsell the PS4 is if its cheaper. Price parity and exclusive just won't do it.

I'm happy with my xbox one but it won't win the sales crown in the US unless something odd happens or MS luckily stumbles into creating a super hot franchise which seems unlikely.

I think Spencer knows they won't take America and is just going to use the opportunity to build a better 1st party presence and sort the mess Don Matrick left to clean up with their other 1st party studios as that is seen as their biggest weakness relying too much on Halo, Forza, Gears and Fable. Invest in new and rebooted IP since Killer Instinct was a roaring success (They all but confirmed that's getting a "Season 3" before S2 launched), build new first party (He said on a Podcast the other day they see Nintendo's first party as the model to follow in growing their own studios while also using externals like Platinum and Playground). Sell as many xbones as you can then judge if it's worth going PC/Streaming only or make a successor for next gen with a bigger and better IP slate. It's clear MS are in gaming in the long run. Depends if they will be on hardware though. 
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: AdmiralViscen on October 16, 2014, 07:15:13 PM
Holy shit 3DS is dead

Also NPD usually doesn't include software sold in hardware bundles in their software ranking right? I would think that PS4 fell behind on that chart due to bundle sales.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: dmj on October 16, 2014, 07:21:37 PM
Quote from: fryinghigh on October 16, 2014, 06:49:15 PM
smash bros seems to have sold really well but didn't give the 3ds a big boost.  nintendo should announce the new 3ds for america.   

Quote from: Take My Breh Away on October 16, 2014, 06:22:36 PM
I miss Oscar's comforting assurances consoles are dying already 

:stahp
Quote from: Queen of Ice on October 16, 2014, 06:32:33 PM
Goddamit was rooting for xbone oh well

chin up, Destiny sold most on xbox one excluding bundles

edit: neither forza horizon 2 or driveclub charted.  at least horizon 2 deserved to do well.

Forza Horizon 2 counted this month, DC didn't. 

But DC won't chart next month either, if there is a god.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: cool breeze on October 16, 2014, 07:35:10 PM
Quote from: Stoney Mason on October 16, 2014, 06:46:56 PM
Not a surprise. As far as sales the PS4 has won the next gen war. They came out of the gate better and created a lot of momentum in the diehards which filtered over to the more casual audience. MS did a lot of stupid stuff from the jump and forced kinect in there which created a pricing problem.

To their credit and the credit of Spencer they turned around alot of that stuff and have done a lot better since but the damage had already been done. The only way they could outsell the PS4 is if its cheaper. Price parity and exclusive just won't do it.

I'm happy with my xbox one but it won't win the sales crown in the US unless something odd happens or MS luckily stumbles into creating a super hot franchise which seems unlikely.

I think Xbox will "win" november with heavy CoD marketing and the Halo collection (assuming this is november to be 10th anniversary of halo 2), plus assassin's creed unity is marketed for xbox (or was this delayed to december?).

The average month, yeah, PS4 seems to be the 360 this go around.

Quote from: dmj on October 16, 2014, 07:21:37 PM
Forza Horizon 2 counted this month, DC didn't. 

But DC won't chart next month either, if there is a god.


ok, I'm mistaking forza horizon 2's release for its demo release, and all I remember is the giantbomb guys saying driveclub was the week after.  looking it up, FH2 only had one day in September, so not bad?

and wow Hyrule Warriors is already out and apparently sold ~190k.  I didn't notice the fanfare for its release.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Himu on October 16, 2014, 07:52:22 PM
190k for a musou is realllly decent for a domestic warriors release. Esprcially considering the system.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: MCD on October 16, 2014, 08:45:14 PM
700k for smash and only 140k for hardware? price drop or release the new version asap. stubborn Nintendo.

sony still riding that successful wave and nothing like gears of war to save spencer's ass.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Mr. Gundam on October 16, 2014, 08:51:17 PM
Quote from: dmj on October 16, 2014, 06:03:28 PM
I really wonder what people are buying with their PS4s  ???... I've got the thing and I can't find many reasons to turn it on.

I'll get one next year with RGG 0, Gundam PS4, FF Type 0, etc. Right now, not a damn thing that's even tempting.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: tiesto on October 16, 2014, 09:48:08 PM
Quote from: Mr. Gundam on October 16, 2014, 08:51:17 PM
Quote from: dmj on October 16, 2014, 06:03:28 PM
I really wonder what people are buying with their PS4s  ???... I've got the thing and I can't find many reasons to turn it on.

I'll get one next year with RGG 0, Gundam PS4, FF Type 0, etc. Right now, not a damn thing that's even tempting.

Yup, gonna wait and see if there are any Black Friday deals, if not I'll go ahead and get one when Type 0 or Witcher 3 hits, whichever comes first.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Shaka Khan on October 16, 2014, 11:57:46 PM
According to Aqua:
PS4 sold 538K
XB1 sold 284K
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: benjipwns on October 17, 2014, 12:04:11 AM
I don't think it's fair to count just the individual units of the XB1 sold since each one can tap into the near infinite power of the cloud. So to get accurate numbers we probably should multiply that number by some function.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Mr. Gundam on October 17, 2014, 12:52:22 AM
Quote from: tiesto on October 16, 2014, 09:48:08 PM
Quote from: Mr. Gundam on October 16, 2014, 08:51:17 PM
Quote from: dmj on October 16, 2014, 06:03:28 PM
I really wonder what people are buying with their PS4s  ???... I've got the thing and I can't find many reasons to turn it on.

I'll get one next year with RGG 0, Gundam PS4, FF Type 0, etc. Right now, not a damn thing that's even tempting.

Yup, gonna wait and see if there are any Black Friday deals, if not I'll go ahead and get one when Type 0 or Witcher 3 hits, whichever comes first.

What's the point of a Black Friday deal when there is nothing you'd use it for?

Still tons of worthwhile games on the PS3. Dat Sen no Kiseki II.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: I'm a Puppy! on October 17, 2014, 01:24:50 AM
Quote from: Shaka Khan on October 16, 2014, 11:57:46 PM
According to Aqua:
PS4 sold 538K
XB1 sold 284K
What?! Patcher was wrong?! Not only wrong, but seriously wrong?! Surely I could never have seen this coming!!
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on October 17, 2014, 01:31:09 AM
Xbox on track for a 35 million install base ww,
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: demi on October 17, 2014, 01:34:05 AM
I'd believe PS4 sales. Lots of people were waiting for Destiny, specifically the white bundle.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on October 17, 2014, 01:37:39 AM
Forza = 120k

Fifa15 = up 42% yoy

Quote from: demi on October 17, 2014, 01:34:05 AM
I'd believe PS4 sales. Lots of people were waiting for Destiny, specifically the white bundle.

Yeah, im part of this npd as i picked mine up in nyc
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Damian79 on October 17, 2014, 03:35:58 AM
Quote from: I'm a Puppy! on October 17, 2014, 01:24:50 AM
Quote from: Shaka Khan on October 16, 2014, 11:57:46 PM
According to Aqua:
PS4 sold 538K
XB1 sold 284K
What?! Patcher was wrong?! Not only wrong, but seriously wrong?! Surely I could never have seen this coming!!

It is like a race to see who can be worse ioi(Vgchartz) or Pachter.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: dmj on October 17, 2014, 06:05:17 AM
Quote from: Mr. Gundam on October 17, 2014, 12:52:22 AM
Quote from: tiesto on October 16, 2014, 09:48:08 PM
Quote from: Mr. Gundam on October 16, 2014, 08:51:17 PM
Quote from: dmj on October 16, 2014, 06:03:28 PM
I really wonder what people are buying with their PS4s  ???... I've got the thing and I can't find many reasons to turn it on.

I'll get one next year with RGG 0, Gundam PS4, FF Type 0, etc. Right now, not a damn thing that's even tempting.

Yup, gonna wait and see if there are any Black Friday deals, if not I'll go ahead and get one when Type 0 or Witcher 3 hits, whichever comes first.

What's the point of a Black Friday deal when there is nothing you'd use it for?

Still tons of worthwhile games on the PS3. Dat Sen no Kiseki II.

I agree wholeheartedly. The three PS4 games I'm buying this fall are all multi-platform.  There's no reason to own one when the lion's share of games are available on a much less expensive platform.  It's sales success really show that people will buy a new shiny thing to replace their old dusty one, even if they don't need it, if it's marketed well enough.  I'm not sure if it's because of this post-phone world where yearly updates can allow people to part with hundreds of dollars, but Sony should probably get on a 3-year cycle with the PS4 and just make a PS5 in 2017 that's b/c.  There's no reason to wait as long as they did since it seems people only need a passing reason in order to part with $400. 
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: The Legend of Sunblade on October 17, 2014, 01:10:04 PM
Personally speaking, I bought my PS4 because I'm already tired of the dealing with the PS3 and everything tacked-on system / network feature that comes with it. Even with incoming games that are coming out on both PS3 and PS4, I'd rather not deal with games that run like garbage on PS3 anymore. Just going from FFXIV PS3 to the PS4 version alone makes that game actually playable, and I can't imagine how terrible Watch Dogs, AC4 and Destiny are on PS3.

That and after using a DS4 for an extended period of time, I have no idea how I ever considered the DS3 as a good controller in a way. :-\
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Mr. Gundam on October 17, 2014, 01:31:19 PM
Quote from: The Legend of Sunblade on October 17, 2014, 01:10:04 PM
Personally speaking, I bought my PS4 because I'm already tired of the dealing with the PS3 and everything tacked-on system / network feature that comes with it. Even with incoming games that are coming out on both PS3 and PS4, I'd rather not deal with games that run like garbage on PS3 anymore. Just going from FFXIV PS3 to the PS4 version alone makes that game actually playable, and I can't imagine how terrible Watch Dogs, AC4 and Destiny are on PS3.

That and after using a DS4 for an extended period of time, I have no idea how I ever considered the DS3 as a good controller in a way. :-\

I can see that, but I have zero interest in Watch Dogs, AC4 or Destiny. And the other features mean nothing to me without games to play.

I'm currently playing Sen no Kiseki II and my purchases for the rest of the year are Japanese imports Super Hero Generation and Gundam Breaker 2.

I am clearly not the target market at the moment. I'm not buying new shiny for the sake of new shiny.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: SpeedStats on October 17, 2014, 04:45:30 PM
I'm pretty much in the "why did I buy this thing?" camp.  Wash Doggies was a wash.  I didn't import Yakuza Ishin and I don't really want to right now.  Didn't even play Knack yet, and I think the only thing I liked on it was AC4 which is multiplatform.

There -are- indie or DD games on there that I couldn't run properly on my laptop at the time, but since my laptop's more souped-up now, I can play more of those on PC than wait for a PS4 version.  I like the remote play feature, at least.  That thing works pretty nicely 75% of the time.

I'm pretty happy sticking with my PS3 right now for console games since there's still stuff coming out for it on the import side/niche game side, and I still have a bunch of other PS3 games from previous years to play.  PS4's super-lacking in software for me at the moment, and I'm increasingly feeling like I should've gone the PC/Wii U route this gen instead of PS4/Wii U.  Oh well; hindsight is 20-20.    Should've bought one in late 2015/2016.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Mr. Gundam on October 17, 2014, 04:49:58 PM
I don't doubt that the Japanese stuff that I like is on it's way to the PS4, just not immediatelly.

I really enjoyed Ishin, but that was on the PS3.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: cool breeze on October 17, 2014, 05:47:31 PM
If I didn't feel this year was weak for games all around I'd be way more bummed about the lackluster PS4.  I mean even compared to the PS3's first year...even the Wii U's first year, it ain't great.  Lack of BC hurts it, too.  Before PS3 got games, I used it as a PS2 with HDMI out and a wireless controller (with no rumble, that occasionally lost signal).

more disappointed that Sony isn't announcing games for the thing.  Microsoft and Nintendo are announcing games way in advance, late 2015 and 2016 games.  in the end it doesn't mean much if you announce games sooner than later, but it's nice to know the console has stuff to look forward to.   
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on October 18, 2014, 08:21:48 AM
I dont see why Sony should announce more games now. 2015 will have the Order, Bloodborne and UC4.

Nintendo has fuck all.

MS has Quantum.


Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Great Rumbler on October 18, 2014, 10:45:48 AM
Quote from: Premium Lager on October 18, 2014, 08:21:48 AM
Nintendo has fuck all.

Nintendo has Splatoon, Xenoblade Chronicles X, and Devil's Third
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: I'm a Puppy! on October 18, 2014, 11:43:40 AM
three games. So what? One a quarter,  minus one quarter?
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Great Rumbler on October 18, 2014, 11:50:08 AM
They have more than that, obviously, but I didn't think there was any need to list every single game they've got coming out next year.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on October 18, 2014, 12:03:46 PM
It was so dumb for Microsoft to release the Xbone for $100 more than the PS4 out of the gate.  Even with Kinect, they should have had price parity.  Dumbasses.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Joe Molotov on October 18, 2014, 12:08:42 PM
"[Insert Console] has 3 big games coming out next year, that's all the games I need anyway!"

A. Nintendo Fans During the N64 Era
B. Sony Fans During the Current Era
C. Nintendo Fans During Every Era
D. Every Fan During the Current Era
E. All of the Above
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: cool breeze on October 18, 2014, 12:55:49 PM
:bow new third person shooter franchise, nerdcore japan game, nth franchise sequel  :bow2
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: dmj on October 18, 2014, 03:54:45 PM
Quote from: Joe Molotov on October 18, 2014, 12:08:42 PM
"[Insert Console] has 3 big games coming out next year, that's all the games I need anyway!"

A. Nintendo Fans During the N64 Era
B. Sony Fans During the Current Era
C. Nintendo Fans During Every Era
D. Every Fan During the Current Era
E. All of the Above

E E E E E E E :rofl
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Trent Dole on October 20, 2014, 03:21:47 PM
Quote from: Joe Molotov on October 18, 2014, 12:08:42 PM
"[Insert Console] has 3 big games coming out next year, that's all the games I need anyway!"

A. Nintendo Fans During the N64 Era
B. Sony Fans During the Current Era
C. Nintendo Fans During Every Era
D. Every Fan During the Current Era
E. All of the Above
Hey NES and SNES had more then three worthwhile games a year during their peaks man. :P
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Himu on October 20, 2014, 03:27:22 PM
Quote from: Joe Molotov on October 18, 2014, 12:08:42 PM
"[Insert Console] has 3 big games coming out next year, that's all the games I need anyway!"

A. Nintendo Fans During the N64 Era
B. Sony Fans During the Current Era
C. Nintendo Fans During Every Era
D. Every Fan During the Current Era
E. All of the Above

But B was Sony fans last gen as well.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Himu on October 21, 2014, 02:22:54 AM
Quote from: Premium Lager on October 18, 2014, 08:21:48 AM
I dont see why Sony should announce more games now. 2015 will have the Order, Bloodborne and UC4.

Nintendo has fuck all.

MS has Quantum.

wii u has a much more appealing line up than ps4.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on October 21, 2014, 10:37:02 AM
Lol, wii u has barely anything coming out.

Next gen is on xbox and ps4
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Himu on October 26, 2014, 12:02:25 PM
Wii u has more coming out than ps4.  If you have a PS3 or a pc, ps4 is lol. Oh hey hey heres dragon age, dragon quest musou, persona 4;etc only for ps4! Also on PS3! And it'll stay like that for some time. The only PS4/xbone exclusive I find enticing is FF15 and that's likely going to have a pc port.

Back in the day, we sony fans had standards.

Uncharted 4 :lol
A TLOU next gen port :lol
A GTAV port :lol
A Sleeping Dogs port :lol
A half assed game in infamous SS
Almost every noteworthy game has a PS3 version
Not a Ridge Racer - play station tradition - in sight
Hyped up million dollar Campaigns for Watch Dogs which has always looked like :trash
:rofl @ the entire Destiny thing
Rofl @ drive club

Ps4 and its fans are pathetic. Getting excited for ports. And games that aren't exclusive. And shit games. Laughable. What happened to the Sony fans that hyped Classic games like Crash Bandicoot, Tekken 2, Wipeout, Parappa, FFVII, Ghost in the Shell, Jet Moto, Jumping Flash? Today's Sony fans are awful. Started at the top but now you're at the bottom despite your crowned jewel of a system being number 1. That is your gaming climate today. Even Wii U fans get Splatoon and other cool looking games.

Ps4 looks like :trash Enjoy.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Mr. Gundam on October 26, 2014, 12:16:31 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ek1MFRBsSxg

BELIEVE
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: The Legend of Sunblade on October 26, 2014, 01:08:33 PM
You must be real proud of that post Himu.  :beli
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Yulwei on October 26, 2014, 01:09:39 PM
 :holeup this thread...
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Great Rumbler on October 26, 2014, 01:16:43 PM
Quote from: Yulwei on October 26, 2014, 01:09:39 PM
:holeup this thread...

This thread is a quarantine zone, designed specifically to prevent sales talk from infecting the rest of the board. Much like the GAF thread in off-topic.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Himu on October 26, 2014, 01:24:28 PM
Quote from: The Legend of Sunblade on October 26, 2014, 01:08:33 PM
You must be real proud of that post Himu.  :beli

Anything to rustle Lager 's ps4 fanhood :rejoice :shh as we wait for a reaction.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Fifstar on October 26, 2014, 05:51:41 PM
Himu stanning for Nintendo like it's Gaf in 05  :lawd :rejoice
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Rahxephon91 on October 26, 2014, 11:04:06 PM
I like my PS4. It's nothing amazing. I got it to play the current gen games and it's doing just that. I don't game on PC so I'd rather have a PS4. Don't like Nintendo and thier games so I don't need a Wii U. Rather play the better versions of games the the PS3 versions so I'd rather have a PS4. The libary is'nt great yet and the Xbone probably has more exclusives I'd rather play, but whatever the PS4 is going exactly what I want it to do. Play video games.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Purple Filth on October 26, 2014, 11:24:48 PM
Quote from: Yulwei on October 26, 2014, 01:09:39 PM
:holeup this thread...

Indeed

:snoop
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on October 27, 2014, 02:12:42 AM
I really hope you copy pasted that from GAF himu
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: dmj on October 27, 2014, 07:14:18 AM
The PS4 (and XBOX One) are both about as exciting as a warm bucket of spit. 

At least Nintendo has Bayonetta 2 and Smash Bros coming to the WiiU which are better than the discography of both 'next gen' consoles.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Rahxephon91 on October 27, 2014, 01:10:27 PM
I don't see anything that exciting on the WiiU either except Bayonetta. When the hyped up exclusives are an HD port and a dynasty warriors skin you've fucked up.

Actually that sounds like the Vita to me.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on October 27, 2014, 02:21:04 PM
Bayo 2 appeals to like 100k people worldwide , 15 of which are on this forum.

Game doesnt look appealing at all to me and neither does Smash Bros, which I imagine is some us favourite since I never knew anyone that played it in Europe.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Himu on October 28, 2014, 07:07:01 PM
100k people still sounds like more appeal than drive club
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on October 30, 2014, 07:27:25 AM
Hahahhaha ok man cant tell if you are serious
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: sarslip on October 31, 2014, 09:54:17 AM
Quote from: dmj on October 27, 2014, 07:14:18 AM
The PS4 (and XBOX One) are both about as exciting as a warm bucket of spit. 

At least Nintendo has Bayonetta 2 and Smash Bros coming to the WiiU which are better than the discography of both 'next gen' consoles.

Quote from: Premium Lager on October 27, 2014, 02:21:04 PM
Bayo 2 appeals to like 100k people worldwide , 15 of which are on this forum.

Game doesnt look appealing at all to me and neither does Smash Bros, which I imagine is some us favourite since I never knew anyone that played it in Europe.

Quote from: Queen of Ice on October 28, 2014, 07:07:01 PM
100k people still sounds like more appeal than drive club


fuck all your gamefaqs era posts  :pacspit
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Tasty on November 13, 2014, 11:11:50 AM
Quote from: Great Rumbler on October 18, 2014, 10:45:48 AM
Quote from: Premium Lager on October 18, 2014, 08:21:48 AM
Nintendo has fuck all.

Nintendo has Splatoon, Xenoblade Chronicles X, and Devil's Third

Zeruda and Star Fox too, if they don't get delayed.

Oh, and that Yoshi Yarn game (:zzz), Mario Maker (:larry), and Fatal Frame 5. (:usacry)

Not the best year for a Nin console but certainly not the worst either, especially if X and Zelda deliver.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: cool breeze on November 13, 2014, 06:49:15 PM
evil within seems to have sold well.  sunset overdrive, drive club, and bayonetta all seem to have sold poorly.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: thisismyusername on November 13, 2014, 06:59:00 PM
Quote from: fryinghigh on November 13, 2014, 06:49:15 PM
evil within seems to have sold well.  sunset overdrive, drive club, and bayonetta all seem to have sold poorly.

Was anyone doubting these?

I wonder if Sunset would've sold a little more if it was also on PS4/PC. I kinda doubt it, but man I would've bought it. Not buying an X-box just for that.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: dmj on November 13, 2014, 07:01:12 PM
Quote from: fryinghigh on November 13, 2014, 06:49:15 PM
evil within seems to have sold well.  sunset overdrive, drive club, and bayonetta all seem to have sold poorly.

Totes unsurprising. Neither of those three had any kind of sales success written over them.  Sunset is stuck on a platform with a small user base, Driveclub is irreparably broken and has awful word of mouth, and Bayonetta is the sequel to a game that sold poorly on two consoles, now exclusive to one poorly selling console.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: dmj on November 13, 2014, 07:02:47 PM
eek double post
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: cool breeze on November 13, 2014, 07:23:35 PM
apparently bayonetta outsold drive club.  that's amazing.  and it was delayed 11 months.

and that alien game didn't do well
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: thisismyusername on November 13, 2014, 07:43:03 PM
Aliens has Gearbox to thank for bombing slightly. Who is going to buy an Alien title after that previous one?
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Himu on November 13, 2014, 08:15:40 PM
Quote from: fryinghigh on November 13, 2014, 07:23:35 PM
apparently bayonetta outsold drive club.  that's amazing.  and it was delayed 11 months.

and that alien game didn't do well


Quote from: Premium Lager on October 27, 2014, 02:21:04 PM
Bayo 2 appeals to like 100k people worldwide , 15 of which are on this forum.

Game doesnt look appealing at all to me and neither does Smash Bros, which I imagine is some us favourite since I never knew anyone that played it in Europe.
Quote from: Queen of Ice on October 28, 2014, 07:07:01 PM
100k people still sounds like more appeal than drive club

:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl

KOSMA AM CRY

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Eel O'Brian on November 13, 2014, 08:18:28 PM
people thinking borderlands was going to tank just because there were no current-gen versions :lol
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Mr. Nobody on November 13, 2014, 09:07:54 PM
Quote from: Queen of Ice on November 13, 2014, 08:15:40 PM
Quote from: fryinghigh on November 13, 2014, 07:23:35 PM
apparently bayonetta outsold drive club.  that's amazing.  and it was delayed 11 months.

and that alien game didn't do well


Quote from: Premium Lager on October 27, 2014, 02:21:04 PM
Bayo 2 appeals to like 100k people worldwide , 15 of which are on this forum.

Game doesnt look appealing at all to me and neither does Smash Bros, which I imagine is some us favourite since I never knew anyone that played it in Europe.
Quote from: Queen of Ice on October 28, 2014, 07:07:01 PM
100k people still sounds like more appeal than drive club

:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl

KOSMA AM CRY

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

brehette.... :comeon
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Himu on November 13, 2014, 09:42:41 PM
Quote from: Mr. Nobody on November 13, 2014, 09:07:54 PM
Quote from: Queen of Ice on November 13, 2014, 08:15:40 PM
Quote from: fryinghigh on November 13, 2014, 07:23:35 PM
apparently bayonetta outsold drive club.  that's amazing.  and it was delayed 11 months.

and that alien game didn't do well


Quote from: Premium Lager on October 27, 2014, 02:21:04 PM
Bayo 2 appeals to like 100k people worldwide , 15 of which are on this forum.

Game doesnt look appealing at all to me and neither does Smash Bros, which I imagine is some us favourite since I never knew anyone that played it in Europe.
Quote from: Queen of Ice on October 28, 2014, 07:07:01 PM
100k people still sounds like more appeal than drive club

:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl

KOSMA AM CRY

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

brehette.... :comeon

i ain't taking this seriously. i just like ruffling his sony feathers because ps4 fans are :rofl
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: thisismyusername on November 13, 2014, 10:11:25 PM
Quote from: Eel O'Brian on November 13, 2014, 08:18:28 PM
people thinking borderlands was going to tank just because there were no current-gen versions :lol

I'm honestly surprised it didn't. Hasn't the trend been cross-gen/last-gen selling less than it was a year ago?
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on November 14, 2014, 01:39:27 AM
Himu i know you think youre being smart, but if you think bayo outsold driveclub ww ltd you high girl.


Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Take My Breh Away on November 14, 2014, 10:17:55 AM
Quote from: Premium Lager on November 14, 2014, 01:39:27 AM
Himu i know you think youre being smart, but if you think bayo outsold driveclub ww ltd you high girl.

Getting a copy of Bayo 2 is like Gold dust in some places. It's heavy in demand for the runs Nintendo are putting out.

But then apparently more data out is that Sunset actually did really well but the multiplats tore shit up this month and in the battle of exclusives sales it was Sunset > Bayo 2 >>>>> Driveclub. And Forza Horizon 2 sold more than DC (Therefore proving God is a kind soul and not a stern and angry god)

Man where's Oscar when you need him. #GamerGate is over. Come baaaaack. 
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Tasty on November 14, 2014, 01:51:12 PM
Quote from: Premium Lager on November 14, 2014, 01:39:27 AM
Himu i know you think youre being smart, but if you think bayo outsold driveclub ww ltd you high girl.

(http://i.imgur.com/gdf2YUc.jpg)
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Himu on November 14, 2014, 06:54:41 PM
:rofl
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Purple Filth on November 24, 2014, 02:12:44 AM
Quote from: Death Ghidorah on November 14, 2014, 02:00:48 PM
People arguing over the sales of Bayo 2 and Drive Club  :shaq2

Seriously

:what
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: thisismyusername on November 24, 2014, 07:20:03 PM
They both bombed. What is there to argue about?  :lol
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Himu on November 24, 2014, 08:18:45 PM
Wait, ya'll think that's an argument? The only person taking that seriously is Lager :rofl
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Himu on November 24, 2014, 10:06:38 PM
I have.  Doesn't mean I can't troll.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Rahxephon91 on November 24, 2014, 10:40:35 PM
Oh that's trolling? Where?
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Himu on November 25, 2014, 12:06:03 AM
Looks to be working on Lager!
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Himu on November 26, 2014, 03:42:06 PM
He unfriended me on Facebook. :rofl
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Purple Filth on November 28, 2014, 02:09:14 PM
Quote from: Purple Filth on November 24, 2014, 02:12:44 AM
:what

 :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol

this was actually in the back of my mind once the controversy erupted (i.e wondering if the icon would be changed) but i never expected it to actually happen
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on November 28, 2014, 05:04:39 PM
Drive Club bombed because it should have been a launch title.  It isn't very good but it would have been a lot more successful during a launch when people were more willing to pay for a flashy tech demo at full price.  Not now when there are actual software options.  So I'm not surprised it tanked.

Bayonetta 2 was always going to bomb, that's why it was never going to get made until Nintendo offered to pick up the tab.  No real surprises here either.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Takao on November 28, 2014, 05:19:34 PM
If Drive Club isn't great a year late how bad would it have been at launch?
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: dmj on November 30, 2014, 03:18:26 PM
Quote from: Takao on November 28, 2014, 05:19:34 PM
If Drive Club isn't great a year late how bad would it have been at launch?

Killzone 4 was certified shit and sold 2 Million copies if I recall correctly. #Driveclub could have been amazing and would have never reached that amount because there are so many other games to play this year. It seems like in the past year they fixed nothing.  Should have just rush released it at launch and patched it back to full health like Battlefield 4... Might have recouped the investment that way.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Bebpo on December 01, 2014, 11:21:53 PM
Quote from: Mary Tyler Whore on November 28, 2014, 05:04:39 PM
Drive Club bombed because it should have been a launch title.  It isn't very good but it would have been a lot more successful during a launch when people were more willing to pay for a flashy tech demo at full price.  Not now when there are actual software options.  So I'm not surprised it tanked.

 ::)

Game is a full length great arcade racer just with a borked multiplayer (that seems to be working finally now).  Has more content than PGR3 but less than PGR4.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: D3RANG3D on December 08, 2014, 09:48:43 AM
http://m.neogaf.com/showthread.php?t=947455&page=1

There goes my chance of getting a $100.00 WiiU next year.

 :stahp

Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: cool breeze on December 11, 2014, 07:11:13 PM
npd summary:  xbox outsold ps4.  wii u is dead.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: thisismyusername on December 11, 2014, 07:53:51 PM
Quote from: fryinghigh on December 11, 2014, 07:11:13 PM
npd summary:  xbox outsold ps4.  wii u is dead.

Only 7-10K is buttocks isn't talking out his... uh... rear.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Take My Breh Away on December 11, 2014, 08:13:39 PM
Quote from: thisismyusername on December 11, 2014, 07:53:51 PM
Quote from: fryinghigh on December 11, 2014, 07:11:13 PM
npd summary:  xbox outsold ps4.  wii u is dead.

Only 7-10K is buttocks isn't talking out his... uh... rear.

Quick, get Famous Mortimer and former ign editor Jeremy Conrad on the phone to double check!

Edit: RIP CBOAT. Creamsugar delivered goods. Xbone sold better than the PS4 and Wii-U combined.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=142914760&postcount=2299
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Purple Filth on December 11, 2014, 08:57:21 PM
not sure what the fuck is going on also

oscar plz  :tocry
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Trent Dole on December 11, 2014, 09:00:40 PM
Think they'll keep the $349 price point from here on out? It's definitely working for them.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Take My Breh Away on December 11, 2014, 09:14:54 PM
Quote from: Trent Dole on December 11, 2014, 09:00:40 PM
Think they'll keep the $349 price point from here on out? It's definitely working for them.

They would be insane not to

Also Bish drops hammer on CBOAT (For 6 months)

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=142921519&postcount=3178

(http://i.imgur.com/btriSmK.gif)
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Purple Filth on December 11, 2014, 09:22:50 PM
Quote from: Take My Breh Away on December 11, 2014, 09:14:54 PM
Quote from: Trent Dole on December 11, 2014, 09:00:40 PM
Think they'll keep the $349 price point from here on out? It's definitely working for them.

They would be insane not to

Also Bish drops hammer on CBOAT (For 6 months)

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=142921519&postcount=3178

(http://i.imgur.com/btriSmK.gif)


now the age of "insiders" is over  :usacry
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Himu on December 11, 2014, 09:34:41 PM
Fuck yes, go xbone :hyper
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: thisismyusername on December 11, 2014, 09:45:20 PM
Quote from: Death Ghidorah on December 11, 2014, 09:13:23 PM
Black pies and white pies with no explanation?  ::)

These fuckers need to get over themselves with this insider bullshit. If you know something just post it and stop slowly e-jerking plebs. If you can't say much then don't say anything, dumbasses.

Creamsugar is doing it to "protect myself from NPD" which begs the question: If his account is so hot, why not ask 'Lore for a different one each month for NPD? Then have the account nuked after the NPD thread?
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Trent Dole on December 11, 2014, 10:11:26 PM
Quote from: Queen of Ice on December 11, 2014, 09:34:41 PM
Fuck yes, go xbone :hyper
But it's a weaker machine ???
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Human Snorenado on December 11, 2014, 10:12:20 PM
Quote from: Queen of Ice on December 11, 2014, 09:34:41 PM
Fuck yes, go xbone :hyper

*digs up himu's extensive post history shitting on the xbone*
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: AdmiralViscen on December 11, 2014, 10:12:22 PM
That wouldn't help. Like cartographers, NPD gives out slightly falsified information for specific pieces of info so that they can track leaks. So the first time he posts something too specific they know the IRL identity.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Himu on December 11, 2014, 10:15:58 PM
Quote from: Human Snorenado on December 11, 2014, 10:12:20 PM
Quote from: Queen of Ice on December 11, 2014, 09:34:41 PM
Fuck yes, go xbone :hyper

*digs up himu's extensive post history shitting on the xbone*

At this point I just want to see ps4 fans cry because they're so obnoxious. i don't care about either one but I sure as fuck get some laughs out of all this either way. Let both burn :hyper
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: tiesto on December 11, 2014, 10:50:12 PM
Well, I bought a PS4 this past November, though I'm not too surprised that Xbone topped it in sales. Even though I'm probably not ever gonna get one, $320 for a bundle with Sunset Overdrive was a good deal. And Forza Horizon/Sunset Overdrive are definitely better than the PS4 exclusives so far (where the fuck is my new Wild Arms, or where the fuck is Last Guardian, Sony?)
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Human Snorenado on December 11, 2014, 10:53:09 PM
Real talk- Weeeeeeeeoooooooooo has better exclusives right now than either of the actual next gen systems.

...and the wii u exclusives aren't very good, either.

:piss gaming :piss2
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Tasty on December 11, 2014, 11:31:20 PM
Quote from: fryinghigh on December 11, 2014, 07:11:13 PM
npd summary:  xbox outsold ps4.  wii u is dead.

Weeeooo did 10% better than last year. Not sure YoY growth counts as "dead." :yeshrug Software sales up 90% too (almost exclusively due to Smash probably.)

ORAS demolishing every other single-system SKU after only 10 days on the market. :lawd
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Human Snorenado on December 11, 2014, 11:40:10 PM
10% better than "extra strength dead and irrelevant" is still "dead and irrelevant" it turns out
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Joe Molotov on December 12, 2014, 12:56:32 AM
In 10 years, Wii U is gonna be beasting at this rate. :rock
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Tasty on December 12, 2014, 03:18:19 AM
Quote from: Human Snorenado on December 11, 2014, 11:40:10 PM
10% better than "extra strength dead and irrelevant" is still "dead and irrelevant" it turns out

Irrelevant, sure. But if something has a steadily improving pulse that's not "dead." :P

Maybe comatose.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: benjipwns on December 12, 2014, 04:00:08 AM
Quote from: tiesto on December 11, 2014, 10:50:12 PM
(where the fuck is my new Wild Arms, or where the fuck is Last Guardian, Sony?)
What does it say that I consider the hypothetical former more likely than the already announced latter.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on December 12, 2014, 05:29:38 AM
Gz to MS for dropping price 170 bucks in a year, pack in games and still be millions behind PS4.

Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: thisismyusername on December 12, 2014, 08:57:36 AM
Quote from: Tasty Meat on December 12, 2014, 03:18:19 AM
Quote from: Human Snorenado on December 11, 2014, 11:40:10 PM
10% better than "extra strength dead and irrelevant" is still "dead and irrelevant" it turns out

Irrelevant, sure. But if something has a steadily improving pulse that's not "dead." :P

Maybe comatose.

A "pulse" on a dead body is still a dead body, dude. You can get the blood flowing, but the heart muscle is stopped/dead/rotten/whatever you want to call it.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: sarslip on December 12, 2014, 09:36:16 AM
Quote from: thisismyusername on December 12, 2014, 08:57:36 AM
Quote from: Tasty Meat on December 12, 2014, 03:18:19 AM
Quote from: Human Snorenado on December 11, 2014, 11:40:10 PM
10% better than "extra strength dead and irrelevant" is still "dead and irrelevant" it turns out

Irrelevant, sure. But if something has a steadily improving pulse that's not "dead." :P

Maybe comatose.

A "pulse" on a dead body is still a dead body, dude. You can get the blood flowing, but the heart muscle is stopped/dead/rotten/whatever you want to call it.

but muh wieeeuuu is coour, fuh u
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: kick51 on December 12, 2014, 09:59:19 AM
i don't understand why one "insider" got banned and the other didn't when they both gave context-less possibly bullshit posts

sales arguments are so dumb.  there's literally nothing to be invested in or concerned about with them considering exclusives are bought these days and no company's sales are "gonna have to discontinue the console" bad.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: sarslip on December 12, 2014, 10:11:45 AM
Quote from: kick51 on December 12, 2014, 09:59:19 AM
i don't understand why one "insider" got banned and the other didn't when they both gave context-less possibly bullshit posts


if you even dream of questioning bish logic, you better login and apologize
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on December 12, 2014, 10:12:05 AM
Shut yo mouf
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: thisismyusername on December 12, 2014, 10:48:21 AM
Quote from: sarslip on December 12, 2014, 10:11:45 AM
Quote from: kick51 on December 12, 2014, 09:59:19 AM
i don't understand why one "insider" got banned and the other didn't when they both gave context-less possibly bullshit posts


if you even dream of questioning bish logic, you better login and apologize

Bish has had a hard-on to ban buttocks for a while now. If buttocks screws anything up, he gets banned since Bish caught feels over "resolution-gate."
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Joe Molotov on December 12, 2014, 11:09:34 AM
Bish is a dumb biiiiiiiiiiiish.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: sarslip on December 12, 2014, 11:20:05 AM
oh siCCc ban-burn bish, youre so fuckin coour bish, please unban me bish, you are basically sam jackson in black snake moan bish, i simp so hard for you mod bish bro

-all of spectrum gaf
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Steve Contra on December 12, 2014, 11:54:49 AM
Quote from: kick51 on December 12, 2014, 09:59:19 AM
i don't understand why one "insider" got banned and the other didn't when they both gave context-less possibly bullshit posts

sales arguments are so dumb.  there's literally nothing to be invested in or concerned about with them considering exclusives are bought these days and no company's sales are "gonna have to discontinue the console" bad.
Creamsugar has the actual numbers, that's been pretty clear for a while.  CBoat...
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on December 12, 2014, 03:39:37 PM
So by how much did xbox win?
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: sarslip on December 12, 2014, 04:01:51 PM
Quote from: Premium Lager on December 12, 2014, 03:39:37 PM
So by how much did xbox win?

i thought cream sugar gave us ballpark 300k via his chart...

how long after NPDs are announced do the hard numbers typically get released?
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Himu on December 12, 2014, 05:55:00 PM
:rejoice

http://metro.co.uk/2014/10/20/2014-video-gamings-worst-year-ever-4912543/

Burn.

Let it all burn. :rejoice
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Great Rumbler on December 12, 2014, 06:02:06 PM
Quote from: Queen of Ice on December 12, 2014, 05:55:00 PM
:rejoice

http://metro.co.uk/2014/10/20/2014-video-gamings-worst-year-ever-4912543/

Burn.

Let it all burn. :rejoice

:badass

Also:

Quote
If you don’t own a Wii U or a PC, and especially if you don’t tend to like indie games, then the year’s harvest of great games is undeniably the worst in living memory.

"This year was the worst ever for games! Unless you include PC. And Wii U. And Indie games. I mean, if you do that it was pretty good, I guess, but still!"
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: AdmiralViscen on December 12, 2014, 06:43:18 PM
Sounds like the writer needs to buy some more Amiibos
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Take My Breh Away on December 13, 2014, 07:27:03 AM
Quote from: sarslip on December 12, 2014, 04:01:51 PM
Quote from: Premium Lager on December 12, 2014, 03:39:37 PM
So by how much did xbox win?

i thought cream sugar gave us ballpark 300k via his chart...

how long after NPDs are announced do the hard numbers typically get released?

Usually leaked out quite close but since everyone got caught out by the pies, hard numbers didn't get noticed.

Xbone - 1.24 Million
PS4 - 840K
Wii U - 242K

No 3DS or Vita numbers except the Playstation TV which did 39K in it's launch month
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: sarslip on December 13, 2014, 11:13:37 AM
so much simpler to follow this thread than the gaf one
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Mupepe on December 13, 2014, 11:15:49 AM
Agreed. I come here to get the basic facts. I try the GAF one but its all spergs predicting doom or spinning numbers with their own armchair analyst projections. Its really sad
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Eel O'Brian on December 13, 2014, 12:22:39 PM
39k is surprising for Vita TV. Regular Vita does so poorly that could almost be considered a hit in comparison :lol
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Purple Filth on December 13, 2014, 12:44:05 PM
People Listening to Himuro on this and getting all rustled :hitler


while on topic MS crazy firesale actually had some effect and if the opposite was actually  true then i'm not sure how they could have parsed that.

Lets see December since iirc it was usually up to double of november numbers for each console.

Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Take My Breh Away on December 13, 2014, 12:44:17 PM
Quote from: Mupepe on December 13, 2014, 11:15:49 AM
Agreed. I come here to get the basic facts. I try the GAF one but its all spergs predicting doom or spinning numbers with their own armchair analyst projections. Its really sad

At least the doom prophecies here are usually based on Oscar dispensing facts. When he's around.

Oscar come home. 
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Great Rumbler on January 05, 2015, 09:43:09 PM
Quote from: http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2015-01-05/sony-sells-18.5-million-ps4s-globally-briefly-lists-final-fantasy-xv-in-2015/.82938
Sony Computer Entertainment announced on Tuesday that it has sold more than 18.5 million PlayStation 4 consoles worldwide as of January 4. The company added that it sold 4.1 million PS4 consoles over the holiday season. Sony said that PS4 sales have demonstrated "the fastest and strongest growth in PlayStation® hardware history."

The company added that as of January 2, the PLAYSTATION Network has more than 10.9 million PS Plus subscribers. Additionally, PS4 software sales digitally and in retail stores surpassed 81.8 million globally as of January 4, with 17.8 million sales coming from the holiday season.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: D3RANG3D on January 05, 2015, 09:48:37 PM
Quote from: Great Rumbler on January 05, 2015, 09:43:09 PM
Quote from: http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2015-01-05/sony-sells-18.5-million-ps4s-globally-briefly-lists-final-fantasy-xv-in-2015/.82938
Sony Computer Entertainment announced on Tuesday that it has sold more than 18.5 million PlayStation 4 consoles worldwide as of January 4. The company added that it sold 4.1 million PS4 consoles over the holiday season. Sony said that PS4 sales have demonstrated "the fastest and strongest growth in PlayStation® hardware history."

The company added that as of January 2, the PLAYSTATION Network has more than 10.9 million PS Plus subscribers. Additionally, PS4 software sales digitally and in retail stores surpassed 81.8 million globally as of January 4, with 17.8 million sales coming from the holiday season.

But what are they playing on it?
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: tiesto on January 05, 2015, 10:03:15 PM
Quote from: D3RANG3D on January 05, 2015, 09:48:37 PM
Quote from: Great Rumbler on January 05, 2015, 09:43:09 PM
Quote from: http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2015-01-05/sony-sells-18.5-million-ps4s-globally-briefly-lists-final-fantasy-xv-in-2015/.82938
Sony Computer Entertainment announced on Tuesday that it has sold more than 18.5 million PlayStation 4 consoles worldwide as of January 4. The company added that it sold 4.1 million PS4 consoles over the holiday season. Sony said that PS4 sales have demonstrated "the fastest and strongest growth in PlayStation® hardware history."

The company added that as of January 2, the PLAYSTATION Network has more than 10.9 million PS Plus subscribers. Additionally, PS4 software sales digitally and in retail stores surpassed 81.8 million globally as of January 4, with 17.8 million sales coming from the holiday season.

But what are they playing on it?

Speaking for myself, Last of Us, GTA5 and Ground Zeroes (then again, I didn't play the former 2 last gen so they are new to me)... probably gonna pick up Guilty Gear soon as well... but for the most part the system is collecting dust until Type-0 and Bloodborne. And eventually Ys, SF5, Persona 5, FF15, and all the inevitable uguu games.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: D3RANG3D on January 05, 2015, 10:07:58 PM
 :shaq

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I want to play, Bloodborne, YS, P5 and the theoretical weeb games that might come but would rather play them on my preferred platform (good luck with that right) although I need a new Netflix box, my 360/roku are having connection issues with Crunchyroll I need my Korean Dramas.
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Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Purple Filth on January 05, 2015, 11:13:56 PM
Quote from: Great Rumbler on January 05, 2015, 09:43:09 PM
Quote from: http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2015-01-05/sony-sells-18.5-million-ps4s-globally-briefly-lists-final-fantasy-xv-in-2015/.82938
Sony Computer Entertainment announced on Tuesday that it has sold more than 18.5 million PlayStation 4 consoles worldwide as of January 4. The company added that it sold 4.1 million PS4 consoles over the holiday season. Sony said that PS4 sales have demonstrated "the fastest and strongest growth in PlayStation® hardware history."

The company added that as of January 2, the PLAYSTATION Network has more than 10.9 million PS Plus subscribers. Additionally, PS4 software sales digitally and in retail stores surpassed 81.8 million globally as of January 4, with 17.8 million sales coming from the holiday season.

no games motherfuckers :shaq
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: D3RANG3D on January 05, 2015, 11:15:41 PM
Quote from: Purple Filth on January 05, 2015, 11:13:56 PM
Quote from: Great Rumbler on January 05, 2015, 09:43:09 PM
Quote from: http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2015-01-05/sony-sells-18.5-million-ps4s-globally-briefly-lists-final-fantasy-xv-in-2015/.82938
Sony Computer Entertainment announced on Tuesday that it has sold more than 18.5 million PlayStation 4 consoles worldwide as of January 4. The company added that it sold 4.1 million PS4 consoles over the holiday season. Sony said that PS4 sales have demonstrated "the fastest and strongest growth in PlayStation® hardware history."

The company added that as of January 2, the PLAYSTATION Network has more than 10.9 million PS Plus subscribers. Additionally, PS4 software sales digitally and in retail stores surpassed 81.8 million globally as of January 4, with 17.8 million sales coming from the holiday season.

no games motherfuckers :shaq

You said it more eloquently than I did. :shaq
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on January 06, 2015, 02:21:12 PM
That 10 million gap already with the bone.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: a slime appears on January 08, 2015, 09:55:02 PM
Quote from: Queen of Ice on December 12, 2014, 05:55:00 PM
http://metro.co.uk/2014/10/20/2014-video-gamings-worst-year-ever-4912543/

What an idiot.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: bork on January 09, 2015, 03:46:34 PM
Quote from: a slime appears on January 08, 2015, 09:55:02 PM
Quote from: Queen of Ice on December 12, 2014, 05:55:00 PM
http://metro.co.uk/2014/10/20/2014-video-gamings-worst-year-ever-4912543/

What an idiot.

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(https://metrouk2.files.wordpress.com/2012/11/dj.jpg)
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Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Trent Dole on January 09, 2015, 10:35:04 PM
First year or two of new consoles always sucks shit. Go play your backlog/find some weird steam stuff.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: archie4208 on January 12, 2015, 04:30:08 PM
Ys Origin sells 200k (http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=969812)

:bow :gaben :bow2
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Great Rumbler on January 12, 2015, 05:59:48 PM
I'm sure no small portion of that number were sold during sales, but that's still pretty impressive. Definitely bodes well for Japanese games continuing to be released on Steam.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Himu on January 12, 2015, 06:03:09 PM
The psp version didn't even hint at that iirc
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Takao on January 13, 2015, 03:24:44 PM
Quote from: Queen of Ice on January 12, 2015, 06:03:09 PM
The psp version didn't even hint at that iirc

Ys Origin is PC-exclusive. It's never been ported to anything, which I'm sure has helped it sell more on Steam than Felghana and 1+2.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: D3RANG3D on January 13, 2015, 10:28:55 PM
Quote from: Takao on January 13, 2015, 03:24:44 PM
Quote from: Queen of Ice on January 12, 2015, 06:03:09 PM
The psp version didn't even hint at that iirc

Ys Origin is PC-exclusive. It's never been ported to anything, which I'm sure has helped it sell more on Steam than Felghana and 1+2.

(http://i.minus.com/iodE1GRV2dcRy.gif)
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Himu on January 16, 2015, 05:42:23 PM
Quote from: Takao on January 13, 2015, 03:24:44 PM
Quote from: Queen of Ice on January 12, 2015, 06:03:09 PM
The psp version didn't even hint at that iirc

Ys Origin is PC-exclusive. It's never been ported to anything, which I'm sure has helped it sell more on Steam than Felghana and 1+2.

I meant felghana psp. If Ys origin has sold that well, I don't think felghana would too far off.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: archie4208 on January 29, 2015, 08:03:40 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/vv58O2o.png)

:uguu
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: archie4208 on March 06, 2015, 08:05:52 AM
Whole bunch of sales figures for 2014 releases on Steam (http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2015/03/steam-gauge-measuring-the-most-popular-steam-games-of-2014/3/)

Some notable numbers:

Dark Souls 2: 964k
South Park: 929k
Isaac Rebirth: 778k
Divinity OS: 802k
Wolfenstein TNO: 602k
Wasteland 2: 384k
Metal Gear Rising: 444k
FF13: 327k
Valkyria Chronicles: 210k
MGS5 Ground Zeores: 192k
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Positive Touch on March 06, 2015, 08:56:23 AM
those are some pretty good numbers on the Japanese games
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: kick51 on March 06, 2015, 08:57:38 AM
did they ever fix the stuttering in FFXIII?
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Rufus on March 06, 2015, 09:18:25 AM
Risen 3 ~85k :germanycry
Sacred 3 ~50k :pacspit

Banished almost broke a million. :leon Was it in a "Bundle" at some point? Isn't it made by one guy? He's set for a while.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: archie4208 on March 06, 2015, 09:43:12 AM
Don't think Banished has been in a bundle.

It has been $6 a few times though, so I'm sure a large chunk of sales came from that.

Speaking of building games, Cities Skylines is going to do gangbusters.  It's the #1 game on Steam right now, beating GTA 5 and Xenoverse.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Great Rumbler on March 06, 2015, 09:48:12 AM
A few more notables:

Transistor - 526k
Metal Slug 3 - 443k
Watch_Dogs - 422k
Ultra Street Fighter IV - 414k
Alien: Isolation - 329k
Far Cry 4 - 322k
Shadowrun Dragonfall DC - 313k
Tesla Effect - 298k
The Evil Within - 250k
Jazzpunk - 205k
Dead Rising 3 - 201k
Resident Evil 4 - 170k
Final Fantasy XIII-2 - 159k
Agarest: Generations of War - 138k
Might and Magic X Legacy - 131k
Legends of Heroes: Trails in the Sky - 107k
Grimrock 2 - 88k
Killer is Dead - 64k
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Trent Dole on March 06, 2015, 09:48:52 AM
Quote from: kick51 on March 06, 2015, 08:57:38 AM
did they ever fix the stuttering in FFXIII?
Kiiind of? They put out a patch and there fan stuffs you can do but it's still's a bit of a mess.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: benjipwns on March 06, 2015, 11:27:09 AM
I'm actually really surprised at South Park. To do almost a million on PC?

Looks like Ubisoft bet well at the THQ Fire Sale. Even with the extra time.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: kick51 on March 06, 2015, 11:29:34 AM
wait....138k people bought Agarest War?  wow

Quote from: Trent Dole on March 06, 2015, 09:48:52 AM
Quote from: kick51 on March 06, 2015, 08:57:38 AM
did they ever fix the stuttering in FFXIII?
Kiiind of? They put out a patch and there fan stuffs you can do but it's still's a bit of a mess.

disappointing.  not worth the 60gb install. 
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Great Rumbler on March 06, 2015, 11:40:11 AM
Quote from: kick51 on March 06, 2015, 11:29:34 AM
wait....138k people bought Agarest War?  wow

That was helped out a lot by being one of the first legit JRPGs on Steam.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Take My Breh Away on March 06, 2015, 02:56:21 PM
Quote from: benjipwns on March 06, 2015, 11:27:09 AM
I'm actually really surprised at South Park. To do almost a million on PC?

Looks like Ubisoft bet well at the THQ Fire Sale. Even with the extra time.

While also managing to piss off Parker and Stone by trying to cut content as DLC who promptly told em' to fuck off. When inevitable sequel talk was brought up, they told em' to fuck off again (Then made an entire season of South Park comprised of mostly whining about the gaming industry).

Ubisoft. When will they ever learn?
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on March 08, 2015, 08:41:18 PM
Quote from: Take My Breh Away on March 06, 2015, 02:56:21 PM
Quote from: benjipwns on March 06, 2015, 11:27:09 AM
I'm actually really surprised at South Park. To do almost a million on PC?

Looks like Ubisoft bet well at the THQ Fire Sale. Even with the extra time.

While also managing to piss off Parker and Stone by trying to cut content as DLC who promptly told em' to fuck off. When inevitable sequel talk was brought up, they told em' to fuck off again (Then made an entire season of South Park comprised of mostly whining about the gaming industry).

Ubisoft. When will they ever learn?

It also probably explains how Obsidian managed to actually complete a game.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Take My Breh Away on March 08, 2015, 08:51:22 PM
Quote from: Mary Tyler Whore on March 08, 2015, 08:41:18 PM
Quote from: Take My Breh Away on March 06, 2015, 02:56:21 PM
Quote from: benjipwns on March 06, 2015, 11:27:09 AM
I'm actually really surprised at South Park. To do almost a million on PC?

Looks like Ubisoft bet well at the THQ Fire Sale. Even with the extra time.

While also managing to piss off Parker and Stone by trying to cut content as DLC who promptly told em' to fuck off. When inevitable sequel talk was brought up, they told em' to fuck off again (Then made an entire season of South Park comprised of mostly whining about the gaming industry).

Ubisoft. When will they ever learn?

It also probably explains how Obsidian managed to ship a finished game.

But Alpha Protocol....  :stahp
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: archie4208 on March 12, 2015, 12:25:55 PM
http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?843300-The-Newly-Crowned-King-of-City-Builders-Shatters-Paradox-Sales-Records!

Cities Skylines has already sold 250k  :omg
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Great Rumbler on March 12, 2015, 01:09:15 PM
Well-deserved, too, it's a solid city-builder [despite a few quirks and hitches].
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Stoney Mason on March 12, 2015, 01:12:44 PM
Time for EA to buy them and put them in the fold.

 :jawalrus
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Great Rumbler on March 12, 2015, 01:16:06 PM
:goty
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: archie4208 on March 12, 2015, 02:03:01 PM
Quote from: Stoney Mason on March 12, 2015, 01:12:44 PM
Time for EA to buy them and put them in the fold.

 :jawalrus

Where's the dislike button?   :wag
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Pringo on March 12, 2015, 07:17:15 PM
NPD Results February 2015

1. The Legend of Zelda: Majora’s Mask 3D (3DS) (515,000 copies sold digitally and physically)
2. Evolve (Xbox One, PS4, PC)
3. Dying Light (PS4, Xbox One, PC)
4. Call of Duty: Advanced Warfare (Xbox One, PS4, 360, PS3, PC)
5. Grand Theft Auto V (PS4, Xbox One, 360, PS3)
6. NBA 2K15 (PS4, Xbox One, PS3, 360)
7. Dragon Ball: Xenoverse (PS4, Xbox One, PS3, 360)
8. Minecraft (360, PS3, Xbox One, PS4)
9. The Order: 1886 (PS4)
10. Monster Hunter 4 Ultimate (3DS) (290,000 copies sold digitally and physically)

- 395k 3DS Family (N3DS XL, 3DS XL, 2DS, 3DS)
- PS4 Best-Selling Home Console
- ≈276k XBONE
- ≈94k Wii U

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1009513
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on March 12, 2015, 07:32:44 PM
Zelda is surprising!

Good numbers from the Order, outsold Uncharted first month numbers
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Purple Filth on March 12, 2015, 09:21:31 PM
the amount of Nintendo fan ejaculation in that GAF thread due to the use of the "family" moniker to declare victory and the resulting salt from the Sony fans is fucking hilarious  :lol.

Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Tasty on March 13, 2015, 01:59:20 PM
Goddamn at MM. For a remake? Seriously? No idea it would do that well.

I think this is the first time a MH has cracked the NPD top 10. :rejoice Considering how late in the 3DS's life it is, MM and MH are pretty surprising.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Tasty on March 13, 2015, 02:01:28 PM
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Monster Hunter 4 Ultimate sold more than 290,000 combined physical and digital units and is now the fastest-selling Monster Hunter title – across all platforms – in U.S. history. In addition, the game has the highest Metascore of any Monster Hunter title and is also Capcom’s fastest-selling title on the Nintendo 3DS platform in U.S. history.

(http://i.imgur.com/kpH8voq.png) (http://i.imgur.com/kpH8voq.png) (http://i.imgur.com/kpH8voq.png)
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on March 13, 2015, 07:42:45 PM
Maybe one day Mon Hun can be as successful as the Order.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Bebpo on March 13, 2015, 09:02:07 PM
Umm, pretty sure MH does sell more than The Order.

hint:
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Worldwide Sales & MH sells 3-4 million in Japan.
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Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on March 14, 2015, 12:16:49 AM
Since The Order was released so late in February, I'm guessing it will be 1st or 2nd in March.

Not to mention millions upon millions of sales in Europe.

Xboners lose again
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Tasty on March 14, 2015, 10:24:46 AM
MH4U will keep selling well until the 3DS dies. The Order died as soon as the reviews started coming in.

LTD should be quite interesting in a year.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Take My Breh Away on March 14, 2015, 01:25:00 PM
Quote from: Tasty Meat on March 14, 2015, 10:24:46 AM
MH4U will keep selling well until the 3DS dies. The Order died as soon as the reviews started coming in.

LTD should be quite interesting in a year.

Pretty sure The Order died as soon as that youtube video with the playthrough went up and it spread far and wide ridiculously quickly, never mind the reviews. I'd imagine Sony has a presidential-level security detail waiting with DMCA boilerplate letters watching twitch and youtube like a hawk for Bloodborne as any slip up with that and 4chan will be all over it like a rash (Not my scene but it does look good)
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: archie4208 on March 16, 2015, 12:06:53 PM
Cities Skylines broke 500k.  :omg
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on March 18, 2015, 09:29:29 AM
PS4 is outselling XB1 100-1 in Japan.

+-------+------------+------------+------------+------------+------------+-------------+
|System | This Week  | Last Week  | Last Year  |     YTD    |  Last YTD  |     LTD     |
+-------+------------+------------+------------+------------+------------+-------------+
|  PS4  |     33.826 |     33.753 |     29.677 |    286.593 |    439.810 |   1.257.260 |
| 3DS # |     32.088 |     33.950 |     34.144 |    561.583 |    587.238 |  18.400.028 |
| PSV # |     20.791 |     20.378 |     29.717 |    249.431 |    320.913 |   3.773.358 |
|  PS3  |      7.221 |      7.645 |     14.128 |     91.641 |    165.467 |  10.260.632 |
|  WIU  |      7.054 |      7.379 |      7.654 |    104.256 |    141.296 |   2.247.836 |
|  XB1  |        307 |        445 |            |      5.246 |            |      48.513 |
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: archnemesis on March 18, 2015, 09:45:42 AM
Use code tags.

Code: [Select]
+-------+------------+------------+------------+------------+------------+-------------+
|System | This Week  | Last Week  | Last Year  |     YTD    |  Last YTD  |     LTD     |
+-------+------------+------------+------------+------------+------------+-------------+
|  PS4  |     33.826 |     33.753 |     29.677 |    286.593 |    439.810 |   1.257.260 |
| 3DS # |     32.088 |     33.950 |     34.144 |    561.583 |    587.238 |  18.400.028 |
| PSV # |     20.791 |     20.378 |     29.717 |    249.431 |    320.913 |   3.773.358 |
|  PS3  |      7.221 |      7.645 |     14.128 |     91.641 |    165.467 |  10.260.632 |
|  WIU  |      7.054 |      7.379 |      7.654 |    104.256 |    141.296 |   2.247.836 |
|  XB1  |        307 |        445 |            |      5.246 |            |      48.513 |
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on March 18, 2015, 10:00:35 AM
What magicks is this
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Trent Dole on March 18, 2015, 10:59:04 PM
lol 48k.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Great Rumbler on April 01, 2015, 11:16:04 AM
Paradox is already having one of their most successful years ever thanks to Cities: Skylines and Pillars of Eternity:

Quote from: http://gamingbolt.com/pillars-of-eternity-cities-skylines-earn-18-5-million-in-three-weeks
Paradox Interactive has announced that Obsidian’s Pillars of Eternity and Colossal Order’s Cities: Skylines have collectively generated $18.5 million in revenue within the past three weeks. Earlier, it was Cities: Skylines that held the honour of being Paradox’s fastest selling game but Pillars of Eternity very nearly topped it.

Paradox CEO Fredrik Wester stated that, “It’s great fun. Hadn’t Cities: Skylines already broken all our records, then Pillars of Eternity certainly would have. One can certainly say this has been a crazy March. For us the deal with Obsidian is about a long-term commitment. It’s a prestigious assignment with a studio we’ve long wanted to work with.

“And I think we’ve shown that we’ve coped with the task well. I do profit off of this, but it obviously isn’t anywhere near the earnings we’ve gotten from Cities: Skylines. On the other hand, profit was never the main point: this shows that we have the competence to publish really big game titles in the genres we work with.”
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: archie4208 on April 03, 2015, 07:34:50 AM
http://steamspy.com/

You can find the sales figures for every Steam game, including regional breakdowns.  There is a large variance for some games, but the numbers seem reasonably accurate.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: thisismyusername on April 03, 2015, 07:49:13 AM
Quote from: Great Rumbler on April 01, 2015, 11:16:04 AM
Paradox is already having one of their most successful years ever thanks to Cities: Skylines and Pillars of Eternity:

Quote from: http://gamingbolt.com/pillars-of-eternity-cities-skylines-earn-18-5-million-in-three-weeks
Paradox Interactive has announced that Obsidian’s Pillars of Eternity and Colossal Order’s Cities: Skylines have collectively generated $18.5 million in revenue within the past three weeks. Earlier, it was Cities: Skylines that held the honour of being Paradox’s fastest selling game but Pillars of Eternity very nearly topped it.

Paradox CEO Fredrik Wester stated that, “It’s great fun. Hadn’t Cities: Skylines already broken all our records, then Pillars of Eternity certainly would have. One can certainly say this has been a crazy March. For us the deal with Obsidian is about a long-term commitment. It’s a prestigious assignment with a studio we’ve long wanted to work with.

“And I think we’ve shown that we’ve coped with the task well. I do profit off of this, but it obviously isn’t anywhere near the earnings we’ve gotten from Cities: Skylines. On the other hand, profit was never the main point: this shows that we have the competence to publish really big game titles in the genres we work with.”

What do you know: Giving people "SimCity that isn't SimCity" works!
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: archie4208 on April 14, 2015, 07:48:10 AM
https://twitter.com/monsterhunter/status/587885458262138882

MH4U sells 1 million in the west.   :obama
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: archie4208 on April 14, 2015, 12:26:56 PM
Bloodborne and Cities Skylines also passed 1 million.

You get a million seller
You get a million seller
Everyone gets a million seller!
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: cool breeze on April 14, 2015, 03:14:03 PM
GTAV PC also also passed 1 million.  it hasn't even been a day.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Joe Molotov on April 14, 2015, 04:38:04 PM
Quote from: cool breeze on April 14, 2015, 03:14:03 PM
GTAV PC also also passed 1 million.  it hasn't even been a day.

All these PC sheeple, lapping up AAA console scraps smh.

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I bought it too. :shh
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Post by: archie4208 on April 14, 2015, 06:06:24 PM
I want GTA 5 but my PC is old and I don't want to upgrade until the new Nvidia cards come out next year.  :fbm
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on April 15, 2015, 09:51:23 AM
I wonder if we will see more Soulslike games now
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: sarslip on April 15, 2015, 10:42:30 AM
Quote from: Premium Lager on April 15, 2015, 09:51:23 AM
I wonder if we will see more Soulslike games now

i'll settle for more games that make my consoles require less Endust
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: MCD on April 15, 2015, 02:43:05 PM
ms should fund ninja blade 2.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Take My Breh Away on April 15, 2015, 05:10:20 PM
Quote from: MCD on April 15, 2015, 02:43:05 PM
ms should fund Metal Wolf Chaos 2

Fixed that for you
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: sarslip on April 16, 2015, 06:38:57 PM
shamelessly copy pasted

Software:

1.) Battlefield: Hardline (Xbox One, PlayStation 4, 360, PS3, PC)
2.) Bloodborne (PS4)
3.) Grand Theft Auto V (Xbox One, PS4, 360, PS3)
4.) Mario Party 10 (Wii U)
5.) Call of Duty: Advanced Warfare (PS4, Xbox One, 360, PS3, PC)
6.) MLB 15: The Show (PS4, PS3)
7.) Minecraft (360, PS3, Xbox One, PS4)
8.) NBA 2K15 (PS4, Xbox One, 360, PS3, PC)
9.) Borderlands: The Handsome Collection (PS4, Xbox One)
10.) Final Fantasy: Type 0 HD (PS4, Xbox One)

Notes:
-Mario Party 9: 290,000 (Digital + Physical)
-Majora's Mask: 184,000 (D+P, 730K LTD)
-Smash 3DS: 110,000 (D+P, 2.4M LTD)
-Smash Wii U LTD: 1.6 million
-Mario Kart 8 LTD: 1.9 million
-PS4 was number one in software sales.


Hardware:

PS4: #1 platform
3DS: ~260-270K
Wii U: ~80-85K

Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: thisismyusername on April 16, 2015, 06:43:39 PM
Quote from: sarslip on April 16, 2015, 06:38:57 PM
shamelessly copy pasted

Software:

1.) Battlefield: Hardline (Xbox One, PlayStation 4, 360, PS3, PC)

I wanna see the sales number, especially with it starting to crash in player count online.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: BrokenVerses on April 17, 2015, 01:49:57 AM
Hardline is over a million with 43% on XB1 and 40% on PS4.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: sarslip on April 17, 2015, 09:21:38 AM
further confirmation xbo owners have shit taste
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Mr. Gundam on April 17, 2015, 12:12:56 PM
Quote from: sarslip on April 17, 2015, 09:21:38 AM
further confirmation xbo owners have shit taste

Or have nothing else to play. [shrug]
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: sarslip on April 18, 2015, 11:12:04 AM
Quote from: WRATH VICE™ on April 17, 2015, 02:54:28 PM
Quote from: sarslip on April 17, 2015, 09:21:38 AM
further confirmation xbo owners have shit taste

Hey I have good taste, you see what I play  :maf

sorry, totally not being serious  :)

sunset overdrive is still the goat xbo exclusive for me, i need to play forza h2, havent even touched it.  :-/  im sure ill love it once i start

my xbo friend list is pretty exclusive, it consists of Wrath Vice and no one.  :lol :-\
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: The Legend of Sunblade on May 12, 2015, 02:48:11 AM
http://www.hd.square-enix.com/eng/news/pdf/15q4earnings.pdf

Square Enix FY2014 Financial Results. $81.8 million profit in the last fiscal year.

tl;dr: Digital Entertainment, Publication and Merchandise sales up, Amusement facilities sales down.

That Record Keeper/Mobile and MMO money  :tophat
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: thisismyusername on June 12, 2015, 08:43:17 AM
Hardline's not even in the top 10 for May.

So much for being beyond a million seller. Doesn't bode well for it.

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Post by: Cerveza mas fina on June 12, 2015, 08:58:44 AM
Quote from: thisismyusername on June 12, 2015, 08:43:17 AM
Hardline's not even in the top 10 for May.

So much for being beyond a million seller. Doesn't bode well for it.

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Great news
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Himu on June 12, 2015, 09:07:49 AM
Quote from: thisismyusername on June 12, 2015, 08:43:17 AM
Hardline's not even in the top 10 for May.

So much for being beyond a million seller. Doesn't bode well for it.

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Bad timing. Who the fuck wants to be a cop in today's climate?
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: bork on June 12, 2015, 09:46:14 AM
Quote from: thisismyusername on June 12, 2015, 08:43:17 AM
Hardline's not even in the top 10 for May.

So much for being beyond a million seller. Doesn't bode well for it.

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Holy shit at the PC and PS3 playerbase drop-off.  I wonder if all the BF4 technical problems had anything to do with this?  I doubt anyone playing video games really cares if they're playing as cops as long as they're shooting shit.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: archie4208 on June 12, 2015, 10:13:19 AM
(http://abload.de/img/1oruc5.jpg)

Surprised to see the GOG version of Witcher 3 so high.

Quote from: bork laser on June 12, 2015, 09:46:14 AM
Quote from: thisismyusername on June 12, 2015, 08:43:17 AM
Hardline's not even in the top 10 for May.

So much for being beyond a million seller. Doesn't bode well for it.

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(http://i.imgur.com/vBbewZL.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/FCumV0f.png)

Holy shit at the PC and PS3 playerbase drop-off.  I wonder if all the BF4 technical problems had anything to do with this?  I doubt anyone playing video games really cares if they're playing as cops as long as they're shooting shit.

Everyone on PC is playing CSGO :teehee
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Himu on June 12, 2015, 10:22:39 AM
GOG has really stepped it up. Really considering them for an alternative to Steam. :obama At least for SP games.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: nachobro on June 12, 2015, 10:33:39 AM
The copies of Witcher that weren't bought on Steam all had to be registered on GOG, including Amazon, GMG, video card giveaways, and retail. Not surprising that GOG numbers would be so high.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: thisismyusername on June 12, 2015, 10:55:51 AM
Quote from: bork laser on June 12, 2015, 09:46:14 AM
Holy shit at the PC and PS3 playerbase drop-off.  I wonder if all the BF4 technical problems had anything to do with this?  I doubt anyone playing video games really cares if they're playing as cops as long as they're shooting shit.

You'd be surprised. A lot of the PC fanbase I know went "lol" to Hardline anytime it was mentioned in BF4. No one wanted it after the beta(s) EA put out.

Quote from: nachobro on June 12, 2015, 10:33:39 AM
The copies of Witcher that weren't bought on Steam all had to be registered on GOG, including Amazon, GMG, video card giveaways, and retail. Not surprising that GOG numbers would be so high.

Yep. CDProject pretty much trojan horsed Galaxy like Valve did Steam with HL2.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Take My Breh Away on June 12, 2015, 11:07:00 AM
Splatoon flopped as well. It only had a weekend tracking but 137K sales in the US. In comparison, Nintendo had the same launch last year with Mario Kart 8 where it only had a single weekend tracking before the end of the month. It topped the NPD chart at around 500K. For a console that gets most of its sales out of exclusives and has a high attach rate with them (Smash Wii U was something like 700K if I remember right), Nintendo's probably in full panic mode since that is a very large scale flop for them on the same strategy they were using for MK8 (And the massive PR campaign for that game as well).

Also Puzzle and Dragons Mario only sold 32K. The 3DS is likely on it's last legs as well. That shit's straight up XSEED numbers for a Mario game. Had they released that at the 3DS' prime two years ago, they would have cleared 300K no problem.

I bet whatever plans they have for NX just got moved forward because their 3DS cash cow's teats are drying up quickly and the Wii U needs to be taken out back and shot. 
 
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: studyguy on June 12, 2015, 11:53:52 AM
Splatoon looks like it'll prob ship at least a million over its lifetime.
Sounds like it'll maybe reach Pikmin numbers. Maybe.

Like I said, I expected the hardcore to follow this, but that doesn't mean the kids and moms will.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: VomKriege on June 12, 2015, 02:23:12 PM
Are you saying that Nintendo, the last legit game creator (if not the sole one in the history of the medium), is maybe not so in permanent and perfect touch with what the public demands ?

 :brazilcry
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Great Rumbler on June 12, 2015, 02:24:18 PM
I'm not sure what Nintendo's expectations were for Splatoon, but I have a hard time believing that they thought it would sell anywhere close to Mario Kart 8.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: cool breeze on June 12, 2015, 02:32:08 PM
yeah but nintendo did push it pretty hard compared to captain toad or whatever non-mario games.  I'm sure the numbers are respectable.  probably not a very expensive game for them.  and a faction of the buyers bought the toys, which I suppose is how nintendo is making its money these days.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Steve Youngblood on June 12, 2015, 04:17:38 PM
Quote from: Great Rumbler on June 12, 2015, 02:24:18 PM
I'm not sure what Nintendo's expectations were for Splatoon, but I have a hard time believing that they thought it would sell anywhere close to Mario Kart 8.

Right. Mario Kart has been consistent top-performer for Nintendo for two decades now. Splatoon is a goofy third person shooter where squid teen things shoot ink at each other debuting on Nintendo's worst performing console ever (unless we're counting the Virtual Boy). If anybody -- Nintendo executive or gaming fanboy -- thought this would come anywhere near Mario Kart numbers they're a fucking idiot.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Huff on June 14, 2015, 08:35:47 AM
Company debuts new heavily marketed IP - first month on NPD is around 100k - flop regardless of what other game your comparing it to
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Great Rumbler on June 14, 2015, 09:03:01 AM
Quote from: Huff on June 14, 2015, 08:35:47 AM
Company debuts new heavily marketed IP - first month on NPD is around 100k - flop regardless of what other game your comparing it to

It wasn't Splatoon's first month, though, it was Splatoon's first two days.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Huff on June 14, 2015, 09:04:51 AM
It's all that really matters when games are as front loaded as they are

Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Joe Molotov on June 14, 2015, 10:05:25 AM
Quote from: Huff on June 14, 2015, 09:04:51 AM
It's all that really matters when games are as front loaded as they are

Ya, but it was raining so no one was able to leave their houses to buy Splatoon.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Kara on June 14, 2015, 10:10:54 AM
My aunt and uncle who own the Gamecube Hut sold 65 thousand copies.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on June 14, 2015, 01:37:59 PM
Splatoon did worse then The Order 1886

Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Huff on June 14, 2015, 02:51:55 PM
Pretty shitty squids then if you can't take a little water
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Tasty on June 23, 2015, 08:48:56 PM
https://twitter.com/Wario64/status/613508168455290880

What a bomba :hitler

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That figure includes more than 476,000 physical and digital units sold in the Americas, more than 368,000 sold in Japan, more than 230,000 sold in Europe and an additional 20,000 sold in Australia and New Zealand.

476k after 25 days on the market in NA. :umad

Not that we needed a reminder how useless it is basing things not only off NPD which doesn't include digital sales, but only two days' worth of data as well. :ufup
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: thisismyusername on June 24, 2015, 12:37:24 AM
Color me shocked. And on a dead system. Congrats.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Kara on June 24, 2015, 12:48:54 AM
I respect your I told you so game, Andy-kun. :obama

Glad you're on #TeamShenmue3 :whew
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Take My Breh Away on June 24, 2015, 06:17:34 AM
Gonna throw my hands up and hold that L after bitching about my last Splatoon team sucking and wondering why I haven't been on bad Miiverse posts yet

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Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on July 31, 2015, 08:48:11 AM
PS4 at 25.3 mil brehs

 :rejoice
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Great Rumbler on July 31, 2015, 08:56:48 AM
Where's Oscar to tell us how these numbers are actually bad and the console market is literally a year or two away from dying off completely?
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: archnemesis on July 31, 2015, 08:58:28 AM
Home console sales overall are down compared to last generation.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Great Rumbler on July 31, 2015, 09:01:17 AM
Probably almost exclusively due to the Wii U being a huge flop. Haven't looked at PS4/Xbone versus PS3/360, but I'd imagine they're comparable or the former is even slightly ahead at the same point in the generation.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Himu on July 31, 2015, 09:13:40 AM
Quote from: Great Rumbler on July 31, 2015, 08:56:48 AM
Where's Oscar to tell us how these numbers are actually bad and the console market is literally a year or two away from dying off completely?

Hardware is not what drives the gaming industry.

That is software.

And software is still down.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on July 31, 2015, 09:41:51 AM
Playstation will be the last man standing  :gun

Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: archnemesis on July 31, 2015, 10:32:45 AM
Quote from: Great Rumbler on July 31, 2015, 09:01:17 AM
Probably almost exclusively due to the Wii U being a huge flop. Haven't looked at PS4/Xbone versus PS3/360, but I'd imagine they're comparable or the former is even slightly ahead at the same point in the generation.
They are indeed. The PS4 is performing great and the XB1 is doing alright too.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: tiesto on July 31, 2015, 10:40:33 AM
Quote from: Premium Lager on July 31, 2015, 08:48:11 AM
PS4 at 25.3 mil brehs

 :rejoice

I know that here on the Bore it's cool to hate on Sony and the PS4 but I'll be honest, I'm glad that Sony is doing so well with the PS4. Its success is spurring a big boost in console RPGs.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Himu on July 31, 2015, 10:44:00 AM
The recent boom of console RPGs literally has nothing to do with Sony. Ps4 has sold less than 360 lifetime in Japan.

The recent boom of console JRPGs is wholly due to tech. Namely, an engine called Unreal 4. You'll notice every new Japanese game is using it. It is up to you as to guess why.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on July 31, 2015, 01:32:21 PM
PS4 sold the same as the 360, except the PS4 did in 20 months, the 360 in 10 years (120 months).

PS4 is also outselling xbone 30 to 1 in Japan. Thirty to one.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Himu on July 31, 2015, 01:36:50 PM
Doesn't make it great a number, though.

Also doesn't change the fact that it's UE4 spearheading this new Japanese console (and further, indie) renaissance. Not playstation.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on July 31, 2015, 01:39:18 PM
Okay guess all those games are on 3ds
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on July 31, 2015, 01:42:55 PM
I think I actually really read an interview where great UE4 sales numbers made Shenmue 3 and FF7R possible.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on July 31, 2015, 02:01:52 PM
Driveclub at 2 million too now, not bad
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Rahxephon91 on August 06, 2015, 01:59:27 AM
Well I mean those developers are feeling comfortable about making console games with unreal engine because of the PS4's success.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Himu on August 06, 2015, 02:17:40 AM
Yes, this has nothing at all to do with Unreal being free and simplifying the development process. It's just BECAUSE the ps4! That's the ONLY REASON.

:beli
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Rahxephon91 on August 06, 2015, 02:29:06 AM
Well I certainly doubt developers like Square are using the free version.

No it's not simply just because of the PS4, but it's pretty stupid to downplay it it's role. I very much doubt most of these games would have console versions or be console games if there wasn't a market that shouldn't be ignored.  Why else are companies like Chunsoft and Namco making PS4 versions in conjuction with their Vita versions of games? Because the PS4 is a huge success that's easy to develop on and makes sense to release your game for outside of Japan. Having the PS4 and the Vita makes a strong case for those mid-tier Japanese developers. It hits the market in Japan that would buy these games because they probably have a Vita and/or a PS4 and it offers some chance of overseas release.

If the PS4 was a failure outside of Japan why make these unreal 4 engine games? Just because the engine makes things easy dosen't mean the things aren't costly. Even if the engine is free there would have to be a platform to sell them on. Yes, Steam, but that's more of an also ran for these developers. 3DS? Can't do it. Phones, can't do it or at least I doubt they can, but even if they can run a mobile version of Unreal Engine 4 it's certainly not for games like DQ and FFVII. The overseas market can be a comfort blanket for the uncertainty of success  that this push for console games has.

Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: archnemesis on August 06, 2015, 03:29:48 AM
Quote from: Rahxephon91 on August 06, 2015, 02:29:06 AM
Well I certainly doubt developers like Square are using the free version.
Unreal Engine 4 is using a new license model. The complete version is basically free and instead you pay a royalty fee on gross revenue. It has quickly become popular with developers of all sizes.

Aeana mentioned on GAF that the engine is well documented in Japanese. There are plenty of good alternatives for game engines and I believe the main reason devs are making PS4 games is that it is the market leader and it is relatively easy to port the game to XB1, PC and perhaps also NX.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: chronovore on August 06, 2015, 07:52:25 AM
Quote from: Queen of Ice on August 06, 2015, 02:17:40 AM
Yes, this has nothing at all to do with Unreal being free and simplifying the development process. It's just BECAUSE the ps4! That's the ONLY REASON.

:beli

It also wouldn't surprise me if Sony was somehow assisting Epic in getting Japanese language support for Unreal. Where I was, and from what I hear, everywhere else in Japan is always iffy on middleware, and double-dutch iffy on foreign middleware without native language support. 
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Himu on August 06, 2015, 08:29:06 AM
Rah, Japanese developers main problem last gen was programming and getting used to hd development. They, especially Capcom and Square Enix, created highly expensive in house engines that not only delayed development, and forced them to fuel money into its engine creation (Final Fantasy being the best example), it made hd game creation something completely different for most JP developers. Unreal 4 is not only completely free as I said, it comes with its own algorithms and tools and eases the development process so developers not only do not have to spend money engine creation, but also programming. To express how it works, it's like a highly extensive version of Sims Build mode for game creation. You can literally sculpt a scene with Unreal 4 in just minutes.

This is why all the Japanese are coming back to consoles:

1. It's cheaper and more viable to do so
2. There are far more market options now, you can easily make a game for ps4 and port it to PC AND turn a profit
3. They are able to make money despite the lack of console support in Japan.

Make no mistake, ps4 ain't all that in Japan, and there's a very, very big reason even SE is using Unreal not only for FF7r but also DQ11. You really think that if SE had the development engine issues it had last gen, it would be making DQ11 on two systems? :comeon Why are they doing this? Because they can. :ufup How can they do this? Unreal 4. They never would have jumped on the wagon otherwise and both you and Lager come off as slobbering ps4 freaks. This coming from someone who has even decided to pick up a ps quadruple.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Himu on August 06, 2015, 08:35:53 AM
And here we are, just on time.

I WONDER WHY IT ISN'T USING LUMINOUS. MUST BE BECAUSE IT'S ON PS4.

http://www.novacrystallis.com/2015/08/gc-2015-final-fantasy-vii-remake-wont-run-on-luminous-engine/

:neogaf

I'm gonna bet Unreal 4 is why they're making FFVIIr as well. They can finally do so without funneling 99999999 bucks into making some fucking in house engine and can just make the damn game, save some cash, and go to the bank.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Take My Breh Away on August 06, 2015, 08:57:59 AM
Autodesk are now making a game engine and will likely use the same model as UE4 and Unity 5 for licensing. Even Wii U is still getting decent Indie support because their U5 port was done in house at Nintendo US and allegedly better than NCL's Wii U SDK (Nintendo didn't even port UE3. What fucking idiot in the brain trust decided that was a good idea when Sony and MS do their English unreal ports themselves?). The rapid cost reduction in licensing middleware is helping the Japanese industry immensely along with helping Amateur enthusiasts have an easier entry level in the rest of the world. Hence why a lot of abandoned genres are making a comeback.

Maya and 3DS Max will never go free model though  :goty2

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Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Himu on August 06, 2015, 09:07:27 AM
Unity is another good one with a nice licensing model.

Haven't used 3ds Max since college. These new middlewares make me wanna get back into 3d almost. Could be useful for my career, but I never got a handle on 3d, especially 3ds Max. I always found 3d so bizarre compared to 2d creation. I'd like to get better at it. *kicks dirt*
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Rahxephon91 on August 06, 2015, 01:43:26 PM
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Rah, Japanese developers main problem last gen was programming and getting used to hd development. They, especially Capcom and Square Enix, created highly expensive in house engines that not only delayed development, and forced them to fuel money into its engine creation (Final Fantasy being the best example)
Actually, just Square. MT framework was a hugely beneficial and scalable engine. It really allowed Capcom to pump out video games quickly and on several platforms.

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it made hd game creation something completely different for most JP developers. Unreal 4 is not only completely free as I said, it comes with its own algorithms and tools and eases the development process so developers not only do not have to spend money engine creation, but also programming. To express how it works, it's like a highly extensive version of Sims Build mode for game creation. You can literally sculpt a scene with Unreal 4 in just minutes.
I know what Unreal Engine does. You don't need to talk to me like an idiot, especially when all your doing is ignoring the main actual point. What good would high level game development be if there wasn't a platform to sell it on? Oh wait, so there must be something to drive the demand of the use of an engine like this. Gee! What could that be?

Also, Unreal Engine 4 is only free if you don't mind Unreal taking 5% of your profit share and must continue paying that 5% per quarter. I really doubt companies like Square and whatnot are going the free method. So your point here is moot. Free for small developers, but not the developers were talking about.

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1. It's cheaper and more viable to do so
It's also cheaper and more viable to put out extremely cheap mobile games that don't require the time, effort, and cost of an unreal 4 level console game. So why would anyone want to make a console game? Couldn't be that there is a platform doing very well in the game space that shouldn't be ignored? Couldn't be that this platform can make use of Unreal 4 games?

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2. There are far more market options now, you can easily make a game for ps4 and port it to PC AND turn a profit
PC is only starting to be a viable area and is still an after thought for most Japanese companies.

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3. They are able to make money despite the lack of console support in Japan.
Yes, because the PS4 is doing really well outside Japan......................Like I already said. Also hopefully these games will actually help Japanese PS4 sales. Which has nothing to do with the PC as well.

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Make no mistake, ps4 ain't all that in Japan, and there's a very, very big reason even SE is using Unreal not only for FF7r but also DQ11. You really think that if SE had the development engine issues it had last gen, it would be making DQ11 on two systems? :comeon
Um where did I say this? Oh thats right I did'nt. I don't know where I said Unreal engine 4 hasn't helped Japanese developers, because I never said that. What I said is regardless of what it does, there needs to be an actual market for them to sell Unreal Engine 4 games and other console games. The PS4 has helped make that market. You're talk of Unreal being easy and whatnot really has nothing to do with my point.

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Why are they doing this? Because they can. :ufup How can they do this? Unreal 4.
Yep, because they'd think it's a good idea to make Unreal 4 games if the combined sales level of the PS4 and Xbone was that of the WiiU. Oh wait they wouldn't. The making of Unreal 4 level console games and console games in general is thanks to the actual success of these consoles. The success of them outside of Japan is great enough to convince developers that it's a good idea to actually make games for them and hope that they either help turn the tide in Japan or do well outside of it.

They would'nt make Unreal engine 4 console games if consoles bombed. Which is why they did'nt until things like the PS4 proved to actually be a success.

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Why are they doing this? Because they can. :ufup How can they do this? Unreal 4. They never would have jumped on the wagon otherwise and both you and Lager come off as slobbering ps4 freaks. This coming from someone who has even decided to pick up a ps quadruple.
I actually own all consoles and unlike you I don't come into every thread going "OMG PLEASE COME TO PC, PC IS SO AWESOME!". So please don't try the fanboy card here. I never said the PS4 was the most amazing and best console, only that it's success is helping convince developers to make actual games on it. Which is true.
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Post by: OnlyRegret on August 06, 2015, 03:35:55 PM
Rather than flounder some more with engine incompetence, see Crystal Tools, Japanese execs finally saw the light. That Unreal does what they can't do, provide a solid engine that lets people ship games in a reasonable timeframe.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Himu on August 06, 2015, 03:39:05 PM
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:snoop

rah
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Rahxephon91 on August 06, 2015, 03:54:58 PM
How about you just answer the simple question.

If PS4 and Xbone console sales were god awful. Would there be these Japanese console games?

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The answer is no.
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Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Himu on August 06, 2015, 04:08:07 PM
Xbox 360 sold damn well and overtook Wii worldwide sales if I remember, could be wrong. Even Wii didn't make them jump on board last gen. PS3 was no slouch after 2009 too, and last gen we didn't have this kind of Japanese rpg console Renaissance, so clearly it's not just console sales fueling this. As said, things have changed. For one, Steam allows Japanese devs a piece of the pie and they need to easily port their games to that system and they can sell the same game way more people by doing so, while at the same time not being stuck in development hell because they went with making their own in house engine, wasting time. Ps4 allows this, but the middleware they're using also especially allows this. Dragon Quest releasing on ps4 is kinda a risk given the systems state in Japan, but keep fucking that chicken I guess.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Trent Dole on August 06, 2015, 05:50:47 PM
It's very telling that the next DQ isn't just PS4 IMO. Hedging their bets for sure.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Rufus on August 06, 2015, 06:05:13 PM
If the PS4 were backwards compatible they would have made it for PS3.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Take My Breh Away on August 06, 2015, 07:19:24 PM
Quote from: Trent Dole on August 06, 2015, 05:50:47 PM
It's very telling that the next DQ isn't just PS4 IMO. Hedging their bets for sure.

The NX conformation made it even more interesting (And the hilarious backpedal. Nintendo must have been pissed the competition knows NX is Unreal 4 capable). Makes me wonder if the Timed exclusivity from Sony on FFVII Remake was less worrying about Xbone and PC Gaming but more that if the NX immediately gets DQXI and FFVIIR, then no one will buy a PS4 when they can get an NX with their pokeymans and maaareos instead of needing two consoles.
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Post by: Rahxephon91 on August 08, 2015, 02:48:41 PM
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Xbox 360 sold damn well and overtook Wii worldwide sales if I remember, could be wrong.
These aren't completely good analogs. Japanese developers were on the Xbox 360 right from the beginning. They were on the PS3 right from the beginning. They jumped into next gen really quickly, as they had before thinking it would be like just before. Only when the 360 proved to not be a hit, next gen development tougher then before, and the PS3 being the PS3 did Japanese console development break.

This is the first generation were Japanese developers were'nt at the forefront out that gate and clearly the success of the PS4 has helped turn that around.
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Even Wii didn't make them jump on board last gen.
Probably because the damage from the shock of next gen had already happen. They had already invested in next gen tech, so they had to scramble to get anything out on the Wii. When their scrambled projects didn't do what they wanted they just retreated from the Wii. The Wii is a strange outlier here.

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PS3 was no slouch after 2009 too, and last gen we didn't have this kind of Japanese rpg console Renaissance, so clearly it's not just console sales fueling this.
But those situations are completely different and you're not taking in history and context here. Also, there has been a steady rise of PS3 console games from Japan.

 
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As said, things have changed. For one, Steam allows Japanese devs a piece of the pie and they need to easily port their games to that system and they can sell the same game way more people by doing so, while at the same time not being stuck in development hell because they went with making their own in house engine, wasting time.
Why do you keep bringing up steam? It's a non issue. It's an afterthought. For some, it's the western company taking the initiative to put it on steam. I don't even think there's an unreal engine 4 powered Japanese game on steam anyway. Steam really has nothing to do with this. They aren't making Japanese console games with steam in mind, steam versions come later and sometimes just as an after effect of doing something else.


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Ps4 allows this, but the middleware they're using also especially allows this. Dragon Quest releasing on ps4 is kinda a risk given the systems state in Japan
PS4 is the main thing that allow's this. Why do you think Namco is making PS4 versions of it's games? Because the PS4 is a success overseas and they reason if your going to bring  a game out make it for PS4. Why do you think companies like Square can rationalize PS4 development? Because PS4 is a huge success overseas and provides some safety net. Nowhere did I say the ease of development from engines like Unity and Unreal is'nt helping. I never said that. What I said is that it's stupid to not count PS4 as a part of that equation.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Great Rumbler on August 08, 2015, 03:42:44 PM
Quote from: Queen of Ice on August 06, 2015, 04:08:07 PM
Xbox 360 sold damn well and overtook Wii worldwide sales if I remember, could be wrong.

Unless the 360 sold about 20 million units in the past year, it has not passed the Wii.
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Post by: Tasty on August 08, 2015, 05:28:10 PM
:rofl PS3 overtook the Wii, wat :lol
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: tiesto on August 08, 2015, 05:45:50 PM
I don't understand why people keep bringing up Steam as a factor in Japanese game sales. Some games have done relatively decently on it but the average PC fanbase isn't really interested in the majority of Japanese titles, nor is PC gaming a factor at all in Japan. People who say that Steam is saving Japanese gaming are kinda silly... it's just since Japanese companies are finally moving to middleware and the architecture of the PS4/XB1 that it's easy enough to port games to PC as well that it's worth the few extra sales.

Apart from doujin/indie Japanese titles, there probably isn't gonna be any more PC exclusives out of the country, even Falcom has left PC gaming.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Himu on August 08, 2015, 05:49:05 PM
You say Steam is a non issue when Valkyria Chronicles sold 500k on the platform. :beli

Quote from: Great Rumbler on August 08, 2015, 03:42:44 PM
Quote from: Queen of Ice on August 06, 2015, 04:08:07 PM
Xbox 360 sold damn well and overtook Wii worldwide sales if I remember, could be wrong.

Unless the 360 sold about 20 million units in the past year, it has not passed the Wii.

Whoops. You're right. I was sleepy when I made that post.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: OnlyRegret on August 08, 2015, 05:51:25 PM
Quote from: Take My Breh Away on August 06, 2015, 07:19:24 PM
Quote from: Trent Dole on August 06, 2015, 05:50:47 PM
It's very telling that the next DQ isn't just PS4 IMO. Hedging their bets for sure.

The NX conformation made it even more interesting (And the hilarious backpedal. Nintendo must have been pissed the competition knows NX is Unreal 4 capable). Makes me wonder if the Timed exclusivity from Sony on FFVII Remake was less worrying about Xbone and PC Gaming but more that if the NX immediately gets DQXI and FFVIIR, then no one will buy a PS4 when they can get an NX with their pokeymans and maaareos instead of needing two consoles.

If anything it'd be more shocking to everyone except Nintendo if it wasn't U4 capable.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Himu on August 08, 2015, 05:53:51 PM
Quote from: tiesto on August 08, 2015, 05:45:50 PM
I don't understand why people keep bringing up Steam as a factor in Japanese game sales. Some games have done relatively decently on it but the average PC fanbase isn't really interested in the majority of Japanese titles, nor is PC gaming a factor at all in Japan. People who say that Steam is saving Japanese gaming are kinda silly... it's just since Japanese companies are finally moving to middleware and the architecture of the PS4/XB1 that it's easy enough to port games to PC as well that it's worth the few extra sales.

Apart from doujin/indie Japanese titles, there probably isn't gonna be any more PC exclusives out of the country, even Falcom has left PC gaming.

Because they sell better than they ever did on their original respective platforms. Why do you think we have gotten all of these Ys games? Where is your evidence Japanese games don't sell well on Steam? You think Konami and SE are going to put their latest games like MGSV and FF type 0 HD on the platform when they don't sell well? Admit it. Not only are you not knowledgeable about the amount of demand there is for Japanese games on Steam, you are also ignorant of the amount of Japanese games AVAILABLE on steam. Both you and Rah come off as ignorant console fanboys, personally. Again, Valkyria Chronicles did 500k on Steam in less than a year. I'd love for you to find the sales for VC on PS3.

No one said PC is saving Japanese games in this thread either. You reading too much into the situation. Who said anything about PC exclusives? No one. But few things are CONSOLE exclusive as well, which is the point.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Rahxephon91 on August 08, 2015, 05:59:38 PM
Quote from: Queen of Ice on August 08, 2015, 05:49:05 PM
You say Steam is a non issue when Valkyria Chronicles sold 500k on the platform. :beli


I'm saying it's moot because it's an afterthought for Japanese developers. Like how many times do I have to say this? Thanks for posting the prime example. A years late port done not by Sega of Japan, but Europe. My point proven. We get it, you don't want to give consoles any credit. PC master race whatever.

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Both you and Rah come off as ignorant console fanboys, personally.
And you come off as the PC version of some born again christian. OH let me tell you how great the PC is in everything while I try at every move to downplay consoles. For, being ignorant, at least I understand how the PC thing is working. The only game you listed coming the same time of the console version is MGS. Type 0 is late port. The XIII games mostly came out as a after product of porting them somewhere else. Deep Silver has actually done the porting of many of it's own Japanese releases. The other niche ones come out late. Falcom is'nt really porting it's console releases. Your Ys games are games that already had PC versions from before Falcom switched. Where's anything new by them? Hell Ys MoC PC version is by a chinese company.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Himu on August 08, 2015, 06:03:18 PM
Jesus, so many hurt feelings. :lol And :rofl at it being an after thought. Shit is just catching up. Capcom has SFV only on ps4 and PC with cross play. Only an after thought. :rofl
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Rahxephon91 on August 08, 2015, 06:07:28 PM
tries to prove Japanese steam release aren't an afterthought.

Posts one's that are late ports.

Great logic.

Not a PC fanboy though.

Though the moment DQ or whatever shit would be announced for PC would make nothing but a million posts about how thier happy they don't have to buy a console and how great PC is.

Not a PC fanboy though.

Also didn't VC sell more then 500,000 copies on PS3 even before it got discounted to it's $20 price. Probably.

either way mustn't forget that it's PC version and  most Sega PC ports have little to do with Sega Japan. But Japan is all about Steam though.

Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: thisismyusername on August 08, 2015, 06:17:34 PM
Quote from: Take My Breh Away on August 06, 2015, 08:57:59 AM
Maya and 3DS Max will never go free model though  :goty2

Neither has Photoshop in a sense. You get essentials, but it isn't a full-blown Photoshop. Neither is the Photoshop for the Metro app store/Windows 8, 10 IIRC. :goty2

They really should though. Get amateurs on board and the ones that stick with it would upgrade for more features or whatever depending on what's locked out.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Himu on August 08, 2015, 06:18:30 PM
I only mentioned Steam once originally. Yet you have somehow managed to spiral this convo into things I never said. This convo originally had literally nothing to do with PC. It was about middleware vs ps4 and their importance in the current rise of Japanese console games. You said that Steam is an afterthought - it isn't - and I corrected you on that fact. That makes me a PC fangirl? Are you daft? :heh DQ11, which is on ps4, uses Unreal 4. I'm willing to bet Exist Archive does as well.

I'm not unwilling to give credit to consoles, because again - I am going to buy a ps4 - I just merely think you over estimate console influence, especially ps4. If you really think the current Japanese Renaissance is due wholly to ps4, as low as its sales in Japan are, and not to easier to manage, free middleware, that makes shipping the game in time an easier accomplishment then :rofl

I don't see why that's so hard for you to understand, especially within the context of SE. SE was brutally embarrassed all of last gen. FF13, 14, and 15 were long delayed, criticized, in the case of 13, more than half of its assets unused despite development costs, in the case of 15 not released even within ten years of its announcement. Releasing games on time and within budget is priority number one for them now. They cannot afford another loss in reputation. Yet you think being on ps4 is...more important than that. :heh

I'm really not sure how you managed to make this convo steer out of control like this, but this combined with your GAF thread shenanigans really show that you have a really, really, really weird inferiority complex that makes you want to be right on the most trivial of things.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: thisismyusername on August 08, 2015, 06:23:41 PM
Lettuce beg the question: If Japan wasn't starting to take Steam/PC gaming seriously: Why is MGS5 coming to the system? Why is Final Fantasy? Why is King of Fighters? Why is Metal Slug? Why is Street Fighter? Devil May Cry? Etc.

"B-B-BUT THEY'RE LATE PO--"

That's nice, Rah dear. Most PC gamers don't really care (we had to wait what... two years for GTA5? Oh sure we were pissed but it came so that's all that matters. All's well that ends well.) You're missing the point: If PC was such an afterthought, why would they be doing ports-- no matter how shitty-- to the platform?

If PC gaming wasn't becoming a viable enough platform for Japan to take seriously, would you honestly think Kojima would be porting MGS5 to it? Or Swery? Or Suda51? Or that one dude that really wants to see the nude mods for his Tecmo game that isn't DoA?
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on August 08, 2015, 06:32:48 PM
The argument you could make though is that games are so expensive these days that they'll port it to anything that can take them without much effort.  Also it's probably much easier to port PS4/Bone games to the PC these days than during the days of the Emotion Engine©

I do agree with you though.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: mormapope on August 08, 2015, 06:34:06 PM
Japanese devs also port things much better now than before.

Compare MGSV/Ground Zeroes on PC to MGS2 on the PC  :heh

That actually proves how the market has changed and how Japanese devs are adapting to satisfying everyone on every platform. MGS2 sold extremely well. Then it was ported to Xbox and PC. Xbox version was great, the PC version was all sorts of fucked up. The PC version was clearly an afterthought, why worry about that platform when the PS2 version raked in tons of cash?

The PC used to be a platform that console devs would lazily throw a bone to for bonus scraps. Now its considered another main platform.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Himu on August 08, 2015, 06:34:20 PM
You just sound delusional Rah.

Pretty much every JP console game released now is going to be available on PC. Stuff like DQ11 are outliers. Yet you think Japan doesn't take it seriously, that it's an after thought, and that making games easily portable TO the platform isn't important.

What world do you even live in? All the evidence is sitting right on your face. You really think that Japanese developers aren't using tools that makes it easier to port to more systems (more money!)? It's all about ps4? And you're excusing me of a fan thing? Uh. :lol
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Post by: Rahxephon91 on August 08, 2015, 06:35:31 PM

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I only mentioned Steam once originally.
Yes, as a big point as to how it's helping Japanese developers, which you have yet to actually back up.

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Yet you have somehow managed to spiral this convo into things I never said. This convo originally had literally nothing to do with PC.
Until you brought it up as a use to further move the goalpost away from the PS4.

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It was about middleware vs ps4 and their importance in the current rise of Japanese console games.
Which no one tried to downplay middleware, while you've tried nothing but downplay the PS4.
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You said that Steam is an afterthought - it isn't - and I corrected you on that fact.
Um, you've corrected nothing. For whatever reason you seem to ignore that your points are wrong.

Sega's PC ports are not done by Japan, but by Europe.

Falcom's PC releases are from before they were a console developer and I don't think any of their recent console releases are getting PC ports. And if they are it's not by them.

Square's PC ports are late and in some cases years late and in even some cases an after product of porting them to mobile.

Ports of other niche Japanese things are years late or done by Euro publishers.

You're only point is Street Fighter 5, but that's not really enough to say "yeah Steam is sitting up there with the PS4 in focus".


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That makes me a PC fangirl?
When you actually ignore whats being said in order to make your platform seem better? Yes and seeing as you do nothing on this forum but say how awesome PC is and how glad you switched to it then I don't think I'm off the mark.



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I'm willing to bet Exist Archive does as well.
I doubt it since it's on Vita. You know, like one of those other Vita and PS4 games that are probably made on both systems with a western release in mind because you know the PS4 is super successful. Which is what we've been saying this whole time.

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I just merely think you over estimate console influence, especially ps4. If you really think the current Japanese Renaissance is due wholly to ps4, as low as its sales in Japan are, and not to easier to manage, free middleware, that makes shipping the game in time an easier accomplishment then :rofl
It's like you've almost read nothing I've said.

Why use that middleware then?

Also if Steam is just as big, why not announce a PC version at the same time?

Oh because it is'nt.

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I don't see why that's so hard for you to understand, especially within the context of SE. SE was brutally embarrassed all of last gen. FF13, 14, and 15 were long delayed, criticized, in the case of 13, more than half of its assets unused despite development costs, in the case of 15 not released even within ten years of its announcement. Releasing games on time and within budget is priority number one for them now. They cannot afford another loss in reputation. Yet you think being on ps4 is...more important than that. :heh
No I think easy middleware is helpful, but I also think there needs to be a market to sell those projects. The success of the PS4 has helped convince companies that it's worthwhile to have these projects. Not shit like Steam. Why you can't understand something I've said plenty of times I don't understand. Because if the PS4 wasn't I'm sure they'd be more then happy just going all in on mobile stuff.
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I'm really not sure how you managed to make this convo steer out of control like this, but this combined with your GAF thread shenanigans really show that you have a really, really, really weird inferiority complex that makes you want to be right on the most trivial of things.
Sure whatever, better then trying to be the pretty unique snowflake crap you always bring to the table.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: mormapope on August 08, 2015, 06:37:07 PM
What surprises me the most are the lack of Persona 3 and Persona 4 ports on PC. Steam has dating sims and niche JRPG games, the cost of porting two PS2 era JRPGs clearly can't be more than what they would make through sales.

Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Himu on August 08, 2015, 06:39:38 PM
Quote from: mormapope on August 08, 2015, 06:37:07 PM
What surprises me the most are the lack of Persona 3 and Persona 4 ports on PC. Steam has dating sims and niche JRPG games, the cost of porting two PS2 era JRPGs clearly can't be more than what they would make through sales.

I'm shocked at the lack of Atlus presence on Steam in general.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Rahxephon91 on August 08, 2015, 06:41:08 PM
Quote from: thisismyusername on August 08, 2015, 06:23:41 PM




That's nice, Rah dear. Most PC gamers don't really care (we had to wait what... two years for GTA5? Oh sure we were pissed but it came so that's all that matters. All's well that ends well.) You're missing the point: If PC was such an afterthought, why would they be doing ports-- no matter how shitty-- to the platform?


Because there's money to be made and these games are made on multi-platform engines.....I never said it was stupid or they should'nt come to PC. I don't really care if they do or dont, but they probably should.

But I'm not sure how you think late ports, shitty uncaring ports, and ports done by western branches shows Japan is seriously caring about pc. Seems to me like console comes first.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Rahxephon91 on August 08, 2015, 06:42:06 PM
Quote from: mormapope on August 08, 2015, 06:37:07 PM
What surprises me the most are the lack of Persona 3 and Persona 4 ports on PC. Steam has dating sims and niche JRPG games, the cost of porting two PS2 era JRPGs clearly can't be more than what they would make through sales.
Could it be that Japan doesn't take PC that seriously.

Oh no, Sega Europe ported VC so that couldn't be it.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Himu on August 08, 2015, 06:43:37 PM
Western branches of Japanese companies are asking permission to port old games to prove to there's a market. Oh no! Shock and awe!
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Post by: Rahxephon91 on August 08, 2015, 06:47:27 PM
Quote from: Queen of Ice on August 08, 2015, 06:34:20 PM
You just sound delusional Rah.
And you sound like someone who can't read.

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Pretty much every JP console game released now is going to be available on PC. Stuff like DQ11 are outliers.
I'm not going through a list, but no. More then half aren't.
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Yet you think Japan doesn't take it seriously, that it's an after thought, and that making games easily portable TO the platform isn't important.
If it was so important there would be day 1 releases so they could charge the full price. They wouldn't stumble a year before getting it out, and wouldn't have to have their western branch be the ones to decide to do it.

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You really think that Japanese developers aren't using tools that makes it easier to port to more systems (more money!)?
Again, I've never downplayed any use of middleware. Please fucking read what I said.

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It's all about ps4? And you're excusing me of a fan thing? Uh. :lol
Never said it was all about the PS4, but I find it funny that all these Japanese console games start being announced after the PS4 has been proven to be a success. Almost like something convinced them....
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Rahxephon91 on August 08, 2015, 06:49:03 PM
Quote from: Queen of Ice on August 08, 2015, 06:43:37 PM
Western branches of Japanese companies are asking permission to port old games to prove to there's a market. Oh no! Shock and awe!
I know context is hard for you to fucking understand, but wow if PC was such a focus why would the western branch have to even ask permission years later? If Japan is taking PC so seriously, shouldn't they have taken the initiative? Not the western branch that knows how the PC market is?

Wow. It's almost like Sega of Japan dosen't give a fuck about it.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: mormapope on August 08, 2015, 06:52:25 PM
Quote from: Rahxephon91 on August 08, 2015, 06:42:06 PM
Could it be that Japan doesn't take PC that seriously.

Oh no, Sega Europe ported VC so that couldn't be it.

Doesn't take seriously would mean to me terrible ports that are released a year after console versions.

So far this year the DMC4 SE PC port is great, some people don't like how you can't turn off new effects, but otherwise its great. MGSV will be great on PC, if Ground Zeroes worked well, it would take some weird and fucked voodoo to screw the pooch there. So far this year the worst PC port came from Western studios, Batman Arkham Knight is more fucked up than any Japanese game that got ported in the last five years.

Stealing this from a Gaf thread, might've been posted already, sales of Japanese titles on steam in 2014

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1004506

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Dark Souls II: 964,266
Ultra Street Fighter IV: 451,366 (Likely includes Arcade Edition sales)
Metal Gear Rising: Revengeance: 444,266
Metal Slug 3: 443,928
Final Fantasy XIII: 327,959
The Evil Within: 250,533
One Way Heroics: 213,342
Valkyria Chronicles: 210,299
Metal Gear Solid: Ground Zeroes: 192,042
Resident Evil 4 HD: 170,403
Final Fantasy XIII-2: 159,922
Vanguard Princess: 135,241
Dynasty Warriors 8: Xtreme Legends: 131,183
Agarest: Generations of War: 138,622
The Legend of Heroes: Trails in the Sky: 107,516
Mitsurugi Kamui Hikae: 105,488
Naruto: Ultimate Ninja Storm Revolution: 100,416
Go! Go! Nippon! ~My First Trip to Japan~- 95,007
Final Fantasy III: 91,964
100% Orange Juice: 87,906
Hatoful Boyfriend: 85,878
BlazBlue: Calamity Trigger: 85,540
Pro Evolution Soccer 2015: 83,849
Final Fantasy IV: 75,397
Killer is Dead - Nightmare Edition: 64,239
Astebreed: 59,844
The Legend of Korra: 57,139
Ikaruga: 52,406
Metal Slug X: 42,601
NEKOPARA Vol. 1: 39,896
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Himu on August 08, 2015, 06:54:22 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/dXJCmKj.gif)

Esa es suficiente para mi.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Rahxephon91 on August 08, 2015, 07:07:58 PM
Good.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Great Rumbler on August 08, 2015, 07:12:11 PM
Idea Factory is probably getting better sales numbers off the PC than they are Vita and PS3 combined, in terms of the English versions.

And then you've got the latest mainline Tales of... game having its English version be released simultaneously on PS3 and PC.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Rahxephon91 on August 08, 2015, 07:29:31 PM
Quote from: Great Rumbler on August 08, 2015, 07:12:11 PM


And then you've got the latest mainline Tales of... game having its English version be released simultaneously on PS3 and PC.
and PS4....
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Great Rumbler on August 08, 2015, 07:30:41 PM
And PC
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Rahxephon91 on August 08, 2015, 07:32:03 PM
With the next Tales game announced for PS4, but not PC.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Great Rumbler on August 08, 2015, 07:35:03 PM
That's likely to change around the same time that they announce an English release.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Joe Molotov on August 08, 2015, 07:38:40 PM
Quote from: Rahxephon91 on August 08, 2015, 07:32:03 PM
With the next Tales game announced for PS4, but not PC.

They also haven't announced a NA release, guess it's not coming out here.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: thisismyusername on August 08, 2015, 07:42:26 PM
Quote from: Rahxephon91 on August 08, 2015, 06:41:08 PM
But I'm not sure how you think late ports, shitty uncaring ports, and ports done by western branches shows Japan is seriously caring about pc. Seems to me like console comes first.

Because:

Quote from: Great Rumbler on August 08, 2015, 07:35:03 PM
That's likely to change around the same time that they announce an English release.

.

"Gee, that PC platform sure is big in the west. Surely we should port to it/see if they're interested?"

You: "LOL NO FUCK THEM PS4PS4PS4PS4!"

You would make a terrible businessman, Rah. No offense.

Quote from: Queen of Ice on August 08, 2015, 06:43:37 PM
Western branches of Japanese companies are asking permission to port old games to prove to there's a market. Oh no! Shock and awe!

Exactly. Sega America and Europe both KNOW there is a market there. Sega Japan (and by extension, Atlus) doesn't. Why? Because the Japanese market does not have the PC platform blowing up like the rest of the world. That's why years late ports happen a la Valk Chron to show "interest" in the platform. Once those blow up and Japanese publishers see there's demand for their supply? They start to take the platform "seriously"/consider porting and/or day-and-dating their shit.

This isn't rocket science, Rah. It's not even Pre-Algebra. PS4 + (PC + PS3) = X. Solve for fucking X, dear.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Rahxephon91 on August 08, 2015, 07:43:07 PM
Quote from: Great Rumbler on August 08, 2015, 07:35:03 PM
That's likely to change around the same time that they announce an English release.
Maybe, maybe not. Namco is random with PC versions. That's the point.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Great Rumbler on August 08, 2015, 07:49:24 PM
Quote from: Rahxephon91 on August 08, 2015, 07:43:07 PM
Quote from: Great Rumbler on August 08, 2015, 07:35:03 PM
That's likely to change around the same time that they announce an English release.
Maybe, maybe not. Namco is random with PC versions. That's the point.

There's nothing random about Bandai/Namco releasing a PC version of their latest Tales game on Steam the same exact day as the console versions hit in North America. That's a pretty deliberate move, I'd say, and it was predicated on the same reasoning that's bringing an HD version of Tales of Symphonia to Steam next year.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: thisismyusername on August 08, 2015, 08:00:21 PM
Since you love GAF oh so much, Rah:

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=804153

Now, :ufup , right?
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Rahxephon91 on August 08, 2015, 08:06:25 PM


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"Gee, that PC platform sure is big in the west. Surely we should port to it/see if they're interested?"

You: "LOL NO FUCK THEM PS4PS4PS4PS4!"

You would make a terrible businessman, Rah. No offense.
Don't fucking talk down to me if you can't even fucking read my posts.

Never did I say anything like this. This was not the premise of what I was saying. I did'nt at all say they should ignore The PC platform. What I said is they clearly are not taking it seriously. I did'nt even present that as a postive. What you are fucking saying here has nothing to do with what I said.

Terrible businessman? At least I can fucking comprehend what I'm reading and saying. No, if I was producing a multi platform game that is no doubt easy to port to PC I would have that version out day one.



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Exactly. Sega America and Europe both KNOW there is a market there. Sega Japan (and by extension, Atlus) doesn't. Why? Because the Japanese market does not have the PC platform blowing up like the rest of the world. That's why years late ports happen a la Valk Chron to show "interest" in the platform. Once those blow up and Japanese publishers see there's demand for their supply? They start to take the platform "seriously"/consider porting and/or day-and-dating their shit.
EXACTLY THE FUCKING POINT. THANK YOU. I'm sorry you can't get what I've been saying, but fuck I never said this can't, shouldn't, or wasn't happening. What I said is right now the shift back to console development is'nt exactly thanks to Steam which you no doubt have perfectly proven here. Yes ounce the demand for them is made clear to the Japanese then yes they'll take it super seriously, but according to you that's still in process and were only starting to see that. Which was my entire point. it's not really all thanks to steam because it still is'nt a focus. According to you, Japan still has to be convinced. Theys till have to test. If Steam was responsible for this shift back then we should be past fucking "tests" should we not?

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This isn't rocket science, Rah. It's not even Pre-Algebra. PS4 + (PC + PS3) = X. Solve for fucking X, dear.
Well aparantley, understanding my point that Steam is'nt pushing this shift to console development was too fucking hard for you to understand even though you agree  it's not quite there, but hey talk down to me some more.

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There's nothing random about Bandai/Namco releasing a PC version of their latest Tales game on Steam the same exact day as the console versions hit in North America. That's a pretty deliberate move, I'd say, and it was predicated on the same reasoning that's bringing an HD version of Tales of Symphonia to Steam next year.
Yes meanwhile Namco dosen't port a majority of it's other titles, including those from bigger series. Yes, Namco is fully behind steam.
Quote from: thisismyusername on August 08, 2015, 08:00:21 PM
Since you love GAF oh so much, Rah:

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=804153

Now, :ufup , right?
No because it's been good because it actually exists. Which I never denied or said was a bad thing. What I said was it's still clearly not a focus and they clearly don't have thier full strength behind it,where as they seem to be more behind consoles at the moment. but hey be a douche even though you can't fucking understand the basic premise.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Trent Dole on August 08, 2015, 08:15:30 PM
Platform arguments...
(http://i.imgur.com/MYKz6lR.gif)(http://i.imgur.com/MYKz6lR.gif)
(http://i.imgur.com/MYKz6lR.gif)(http://i.imgur.com/MYKz6lR.gif)
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: D3RANG3D on August 08, 2015, 08:15:56 PM
PC saving Japanese gaming one game at a time.  :gaben
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Great Rumbler on August 08, 2015, 08:17:57 PM
Even Shenmue 3 is coming out on PC.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Rahxephon91 on August 08, 2015, 08:19:04 PM
Isn't that a requirement of Kickstarter?
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Great Rumbler on August 08, 2015, 08:20:36 PM
No.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: thisismyusername on August 08, 2015, 09:03:04 PM
Quote from: Rahxephon91 on August 08, 2015, 08:19:04 PM
Isn't that a requirement of Kickstarter?

No, it isn't. They can make it console only, but (and this is where you're failing to grasp): They lose a shit ton of money in the process. Why do you think they include it? Because PC is in huge demand.

How often do you hear a kickstarter going "oh no PS4? Pass."
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Rahxephon91 on August 09, 2015, 03:14:57 AM
Quote from: thisismyusername on August 08, 2015, 09:03:04 PM


No, it isn't. They can make it console only, but (and this is where you're failing to grasp): They lose a shit ton of money in the process. Why do you think they include it? Because PC is in huge demand.


How many times do I have to ask "where did I say pc isn't viable" until you understand I did'nt actually say that. You can't seem to grasp that that was never the premise.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: D3RANG3D on August 09, 2015, 06:41:18 AM
Quote from: tiesto on August 08, 2015, 05:45:50 PM
I don't understand why people keep bringing up Steam as a factor in Japanese game sales. Some games have done relatively decently on it but the average PC fanbase isn't really interested in the majority of Japanese titles, nor is PC gaming a factor at all in Japan. People who say that Steam is saving Japanese gaming are kinda silly... it's just since Japanese companies are finally moving to middleware and the architecture of the PS4/XB1 that it's easy enough to port games to PC as well that it's worth the few extra sales.

Apart from doujin/indie Japanese titles, there probably isn't gonna be any more PC exclusives out of the country, even Falcom has left PC gaming.

http://m.neogaf.com/showthread.php?t=1042423
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: tiesto on August 09, 2015, 12:26:07 PM
Quote from: Queen of Ice on August 08, 2015, 05:53:51 PM
Quote from: tiesto on August 08, 2015, 05:45:50 PM
I don't understand why people keep bringing up Steam as a factor in Japanese game sales. Some games have done relatively decently on it but the average PC fanbase isn't really interested in the majority of Japanese titles, nor is PC gaming a factor at all in Japan. People who say that Steam is saving Japanese gaming are kinda silly... it's just since Japanese companies are finally moving to middleware and the architecture of the PS4/XB1 that it's easy enough to port games to PC as well that it's worth the few extra sales.

Apart from doujin/indie Japanese titles, there probably isn't gonna be any more PC exclusives out of the country, even Falcom has left PC gaming.

Because they sell better than they ever did on their original respective platforms. Why do you think we have gotten all of these Ys games? Where is your evidence Japanese games don't sell well on Steam? You think Konami and SE are going to put their latest games like MGSV and FF type 0 HD on the platform when they don't sell well? Admit it. Not only are you not knowledgeable about the amount of demand there is for Japanese games on Steam, you are also ignorant of the amount of Japanese games AVAILABLE on steam. Both you and Rah come off as ignorant console fanboys, personally. Again, Valkyria Chronicles did 500k on Steam in less than a year. I'd love for you to find the sales for VC on PS3.

No one said PC is saving Japanese games in this thread either. You reading too much into the situation. Who said anything about PC exclusives? No one. But few things are CONSOLE exclusive as well, which is the point.

Himu, you make it sound like I'm against games getting ported to PC, but like I said, I think it's a good thing that JP devs can get extra sales. I'm simply saying that there probably won't be any JP PC exclusives outside of the doujin/indie scene. If you want to play the majority of Japanese games this gen you'll still need a PS4, since there will be a good chunk of them that probably won't end up with PC releases (Exist Archive, SO5, DQ11).

And based on D3ranged post it looked like VC did 220,000 on PC. Which is good for a 5+ year old port of a PS3 game, yeah, but 1/2 of what you said it did. I couldn't find any sales numbers from the console versions aside from VGchartz which as we all know makes shit up.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Great Rumbler on August 09, 2015, 12:31:05 PM
Quote from: tiesto on August 09, 2015, 12:26:07 PM
And based on D3ranged post it looked like VC did 220,000 on PC. Which is good for a 5+ year old port of a PS3 game, yeah, but 1/2 of what you said it did. I couldn't find any sales numbers from the console versions aside from VGchartz which as we all know makes shit up.

It sold 220k in 2014 [the scope of the list in that GAF thread], with approximately another 220k so far this year.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Himu on August 09, 2015, 12:36:27 PM
The data Deranged posted is half a year old. According the Steam sale report data, it has sold 400k (+) aka nearly 500k. This was in June. It has undoubtedly hit 500k by now.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=167756923&postcount=913

Also, you keep bringing up "there won't be any JP exclusives..." like it means anything. As if there will be many JP console exclusives as well. Do it, name the JP console exclusives, and you'll have a point. But you'll have to dig. You could start with Blloodborne and DQ11, but SO5 and Exist Archive have a high probability of being released on Steam. You'd have to be delusional to think otherwise. DQ11 doesn't. You say good chunk, but you really only mean three. Three is not a "good chunk." Prove us otherwise. Name more those three games that are not getting Steam releases. Adding to that, you have no proof Exist Archive and SO5 AREN'T getting Steam releases, especially as their western releases loom ever closer. FF15, Type 0, MGSV, most KT Musou games worth playing, SFV;etc etc are all on or are coming to Steam.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: tiesto on August 09, 2015, 01:17:48 PM
List wars aren't really my thing but:

-Ys 8 (this may get on Steam but 7 and Celceta were never released on the platform)
-Omega Quintet
-Natural Doctrine
-J-Stars Victory vs
-Bloodborne
-Last Guardian

DQ Builders, DQ Heroes, Atelier Sophie, and Persona 5 are getting PS3 releases as well but no PC release.

I'm sure FF15 and KH3 will eventually come to the PC but it's weird how they haven't been announced yet for the platform. Which makes me think the ports will come late, a la Type-0.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: D3RANG3D on August 09, 2015, 01:24:49 PM
Quote from: tiesto on August 09, 2015, 12:26:07 PM
Quote from: Queen of Ice on August 08, 2015, 05:53:51 PM
Quote from: tiesto on August 08, 2015, 05:45:50 PM
I don't understand why people keep bringing up Steam as a factor in Japanese game sales. Some games have done relatively decently on it but the average PC fanbase isn't really interested in the majority of Japanese titles, nor is PC gaming a factor at all in Japan. People who say that Steam is saving Japanese gaming are kinda silly... it's just since Japanese companies are finally moving to middleware and the architecture of the PS4/XB1 that it's easy enough to port games to PC as well that it's worth the few extra sales.

Apart from doujin/indie Japanese titles, there probably isn't gonna be any more PC exclusives out of the country, even Falcom has left PC gaming.

Because they sell better than they ever did on their original respective platforms. Why do you think we have gotten all of these Ys games? Where is your evidence Japanese games don't sell well on Steam? You think Konami and SE are going to put their latest games like MGSV and FF type 0 HD on the platform when they don't sell well? Admit it. Not only are you not knowledgeable about the amount of demand there is for Japanese games on Steam, you are also ignorant of the amount of Japanese games AVAILABLE on steam. Both you and Rah come off as ignorant console fanboys, personally. Again, Valkyria Chronicles did 500k on Steam in less than a year. I'd love for you to find the sales for VC on PS3.

No one said PC is saving Japanese games in this thread either. You reading too much into the situation. Who said anything about PC exclusives? No one. But few things are CONSOLE exclusive as well, which is the point.

Himu, you make it sound like I'm against games getting ported to PC, but like I said, I think it's a good thing that JP devs can get extra sales. I'm simply saying that there probably won't be any JP PC exclusives outside of the doujin/indie scene. If you want to play the majority of Japanese games this gen you'll still need a PS4, since there will be a good chunk of them that probably won't end up with PC releases (Exist Archive, SO5, DQ11).

And based on D3ranged post it looked like VC did 220,000 on PC. Which is good for a 5+ year old port of a PS3 game, yeah, but 1/2 of what you said it did. I couldn't find any sales numbers from the console versions aside from VGchartz which as we all know makes shit up.

At this point these games are pure profit for these Japanese companies to port these games, and are probably ported using unpaid interns.

http://steamspy.com/search.php?s=valkyria

That's a lot of sales for a platform with no thirst for Japanese games right?

Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: thisismyusername on August 09, 2015, 01:30:38 PM
Quote from: tiesto on August 09, 2015, 12:26:07 PM
And based on D3ranged post it looked like VC did 220,000 on PC. Which is good for a 5+ year old port of a PS3 game, yeah, but 1/2 of what you said it did. I couldn't find any sales numbers from the console versions aside from VGchartz which as we all know makes shit up.

(Take with a grain of salt, free weekends skew numbers and the numbers aren't 100% accurate but Steam developers have said they're "close to bang on the mark." Private Profiles [like mine] will not be counted, so you can throw +1 in on that if you want)

http://steamspy.com/app/294860

At this moment: Players total: 336,686

NOTE that's for... a six(?) or so year old title. Nearly 200,000 south of half a million for a late port isn't a bad thing. This is what Rah is not understanding, if there was no "serious consideration" from Japan, why is the demand for Japanese titles in the ballpark of 20,000-500,000 a pop for each title put on Steam?

Because there's a demand for it and that's why Japan is starting to "take PC seriously."

"B-B-BUT BAD PORTS AND--"

No1currs as to the quality of the ports. Dark Souls had a horrible port as far as PC features go and it sold over a million. (http://steamspy.com/app/211420)
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Himu on August 09, 2015, 01:36:20 PM
Quote from: tiesto on August 09, 2015, 01:17:48 PM
List wars aren't really my thing but:

-Ys 8 (this may get on Steam but 7 and Celceta were never released on the platform)
-Omega Quintet
-Natural Doctrine
-J-Stars Victory vs
-Bloodborne
-Last Guardian

DQ Builders, DQ Heroes, Atelier Sophie, and Persona 5 are getting PS3 releases as well but no PC release.

I'm sure FF15 and KH3 will eventually come to the PC but it's weird how they haven't been announced yet for the platform. Which makes me think the ports will come late, a la Type-0.


- Ys 8 - likely
- Omega Quintet - compile heart? We're considering them now? OK. :yeshrug
- Natural Doctrine - :yeshrug
- J-Stars Victory vs :yeshrug
- Bloodborne - SCE published, not surprising
- Last Guardian - SCE published, not surprising
- DQ Builders -  zero reason to get excited for this yet
- DQ Heroes - is on ps3 in JP, not too much skin off my nose, will import
- Atelier Sophie - Gust can't ignore Steam sales for too long, and I am betting they will start porting soon
- Persona 5 - Same for Atlus

You really had to scrape the bottom of the barrel for the most part.

This leaves PS4 worth owning for the following:

- DQ11
- DQ11
- DQ11
- DQ11
- Any DQ spin off
- That rare SCE game that's worth playing
- The rare JP console only game that's worth playing
- Want a simplified gaming environment with one system for all things, and who can hate that? But be honest about it.

As for waiting for FF15 and KH3 :yeshrug We can wait, they will come.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Himu on August 09, 2015, 01:40:51 PM
Quote from: thisismyusername on August 09, 2015, 01:30:38 PM
Quote from: tiesto on August 09, 2015, 12:26:07 PM
And based on D3ranged post it looked like VC did 220,000 on PC. Which is good for a 5+ year old port of a PS3 game, yeah, but 1/2 of what you said it did. I couldn't find any sales numbers from the console versions aside from VGchartz which as we all know makes shit up.

(Take with a grain of salt, free weekends skew numbers and the numbers aren't 100% accurate but Steam developers have said they're "close to bang on the mark." Private Profiles [like mine] will not be counted, so you can throw +1 in on that if you want)

http://steamspy.com/app/294860

At this moment: Players total: 336,686

NOTE that's for... a six(?) or so year old title. Nearly 200,000 south of half a million for a late port isn't a bad thing. This is what Rah is not understanding, if there was no "serious consideration" from Japan, why is the demand for Japanese titles in the ballpark of 20,000-500,000 a pop for each title put on Steam?

Because there's a demand for it and that's why Japan is starting to "take PC seriously."

"B-B-BUT BAD PORTS AND--"

No1currs as to the quality of the ports. Dark Souls had a horrible port as far as PC features go and it sold over a million. (http://steamspy.com/app/211420)

All you have to point at is the amount of owners (489,071). I doubt free weekends counts them as owners because they disappear once the weekend is over if you haven't bought it.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Human Snorenado on August 09, 2015, 02:01:11 PM
Talking to rah like his opinion matters

:heh
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: thisismyusername on August 09, 2015, 02:09:22 PM
Quote from: Queen of Ice on August 09, 2015, 01:40:51 PM
Quote from: thisismyusername on August 09, 2015, 01:30:38 PM
Quote from: tiesto on August 09, 2015, 12:26:07 PM
And based on D3ranged post it looked like VC did 220,000 on PC. Which is good for a 5+ year old port of a PS3 game, yeah, but 1/2 of what you said it did. I couldn't find any sales numbers from the console versions aside from VGchartz which as we all know makes shit up.

(Take with a grain of salt, free weekends skew numbers and the numbers aren't 100% accurate but Steam developers have said they're "close to bang on the mark." Private Profiles [like mine] will not be counted, so you can throw +1 in on that if you want)

http://steamspy.com/app/294860

At this moment: Players total: 336,686

NOTE that's for... a six(?) or so year old title. Nearly 200,000 south of half a million for a late port isn't a bad thing. This is what Rah is not understanding, if there was no "serious consideration" from Japan, why is the demand for Japanese titles in the ballpark of 20,000-500,000 a pop for each title put on Steam?

Because there's a demand for it and that's why Japan is starting to "take PC seriously."

"B-B-BUT BAD PORTS AND--"

No1currs as to the quality of the ports. Dark Souls had a horrible port as far as PC features go and it sold over a million. (http://steamspy.com/app/211420)

All you have to point at is the amount of owners (489,071). I doubt free weekends counts them as owners because they disappear once the weekend is over if you haven't bought it.

Steam Spy will count Free Weekenders as owners because Steam gives EVERYONE (literally all accounts) the title on the free weekend and people don't restart the client/etc so when the free weekend stops, the numbers don't drastically drop to the accurate numbers. It's why Steam Spy now (rightly) has a "this had a free weekend, take the numbers with a grain of salt" (http://steamspy.com/app/98200) for it. It's not an accurate sales number like NPD or other retail charts, but it is "accurate" as far as non-free weekend games go.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Himu on August 09, 2015, 02:14:59 PM
Ah, thanks.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: tiesto on August 09, 2015, 02:23:43 PM
Quote from: Queen of Ice on August 09, 2015, 01:36:20 PM
Quote from: tiesto on August 09, 2015, 01:17:48 PM
List wars aren't really my thing but:

-Ys 8 (this may get on Steam but 7 and Celceta were never released on the platform)
-Omega Quintet
-Natural Doctrine
-J-Stars Victory vs
-Bloodborne
-Last Guardian

DQ Builders, DQ Heroes, Atelier Sophie, and Persona 5 are getting PS3 releases as well but no PC release.

I'm sure FF15 and KH3 will eventually come to the PC but it's weird how they haven't been announced yet for the platform. Which makes me think the ports will come late, a la Type-0.


- Ys 8 - likely
- Omega Quintet - compile heart? We're considering them now? OK. :yeshrug
- Natural Doctrine - :yeshrug
- J-Stars Victory vs :yeshrug
- Bloodborne - SCE published, not surprising
- Last Guardian - SCE published, not surprising
- DQ Builders -  zero reason to get excited for this yet
- DQ Heroes - is on ps3 in JP, not too much skin off my nose, will import
- Atelier Sophie - Gust can't ignore Steam sales for too long, and I am betting they will start porting soon
- Persona 5 - Same for Atlus

You really had to scrape the bottom of the barrel for the most part.

This leaves PS4 worth owning for the following:

- DQ11
- DQ11
- DQ11
- DQ11
- Any DQ spin off
- That rare SCE game that's worth playing
- The rare JP console only game that's worth playing
- Want a simplified gaming environment with one system for all things, and who can hate that? But be honest about it.

As for waiting for FF15 and KH3 :yeshrug We can wait, they will come.

I was never not honest about the fact I wanted a simplified gaming environment that will get the majority of the games I'm interested on (the other bit being WiiU/3DS exclusives). Nor was I chastising JP devs for making PC ports, it doesn't seem like it's financially a lot of skin off their backs and the numbers are pure profit. It's smart for them to do it.

And hey, I will admit I'm in the wrong and looking at the sales numbers, there's a bigger market than I expected for JP games on PC. I guess I just still latch on to that old stereotype that the majority of PC gamers are interested in complex strategy games, weird euro simulation games, WRPGs and dungeon crawlers... and they aren't so much into more 'arcadey' experiences.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Himu on August 09, 2015, 02:28:58 PM
That comment wasn't for you, but Rah. :smug
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Himu on August 09, 2015, 02:37:17 PM
Quote from: tiesto on August 09, 2015, 02:23:43 PM
And hey, I will admit I'm in the wrong and looking at the sales numbers, there's a bigger market than I expected for JP games on PC. I guess I just still latch on to that old stereotype that the majority of PC gamers are interested in complex strategy games, weird euro simulation games, WRPGs and dungeon crawlers... and they aren't so much into more 'arcadey' experiences.

Pretty much all of us started doing it gradually. Most pc players I know these days are former console players and didn't grow up playing on pc. Most of us have dropped the console market last generation, because it was such a bad generation. Games people wanted weren't offered, so people went to get their fix elsewhere.  The barrier for entry is easier than ever. Last generation, because the generation went on so long, eventually, even low-level gpus and cpus were above console level. So you could buy a basic HP laptop like an Envy, and have better performance than your friends 360 or ps3.

Dark Souls and Ys are what jump started this. Dark Souls sold a million on Steam, Ys 3 port was the first attempt I saw at prodding the market and it paid off. Eventually, we got old releases like KOF98 and stuff and now we have stuff like MGSV coming out.

It's been a slow burn, and it took a lot to get our voices heard, but we finally got what we wanted: JP games on Steam.

That's a large reason why you're seeing these sales. Not only are there more players purely interested in these games, like Dark Souls, but A LOT of weeaboos moved to PC when it was considered an option to do so.

And no, pretty much every genre is well represented and sold well on Steam. it's a diverse platform that accommodates to diverse amount of people.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: D3RANG3D on August 09, 2015, 03:25:10 PM
Quote from: tiesto on August 09, 2015, 02:23:43 PM
Quote from: Queen of Ice on August 09, 2015, 01:36:20 PM
Quote from: tiesto on August 09, 2015, 01:17:48 PM
List wars aren't really my thing but:

-Ys 8 (this may get on Steam but 7 and Celceta were never released on the platform)
-Omega Quintet
-Natural Doctrine
-J-Stars Victory vs
-Bloodborne
-Last Guardian

DQ Builders, DQ Heroes, Atelier Sophie, and Persona 5 are getting PS3 releases as well but no PC release.

I'm sure FF15 and KH3 will eventually come to the PC but it's weird how they haven't been announced yet for the platform. Which makes me think the ports will come late, a la Type-0.


- Ys 8 - likely
- Omega Quintet - compile heart? We're considering them now? OK. :yeshrug
- Natural Doctrine - :yeshrug
- J-Stars Victory vs :yeshrug
- Bloodborne - SCE published, not surprising
- Last Guardian - SCE published, not surprising
- DQ Builders -  zero reason to get excited for this yet
- DQ Heroes - is on ps3 in JP, not too much skin off my nose, will import
- Atelier Sophie - Gust can't ignore Steam sales for too long, and I am betting they will start porting soon
- Persona 5 - Same for Atlus

You really had to scrape the bottom of the barrel for the most part.

This leaves PS4 worth owning for the following:

- DQ11
- DQ11
- DQ11
- DQ11
- Any DQ spin off
- That rare SCE game that's worth playing
- The rare JP console only game that's worth playing
- Want a simplified gaming environment with one system for all things, and who can hate that? But be honest about it.

As for waiting for FF15 and KH3 :yeshrug We can wait, they will come.

I was never not honest about the fact I wanted a simplified gaming environment that will get the majority of the games I'm interested on (the other bit being WiiU/3DS exclusives). Nor was I chastising JP devs for making PC ports, it doesn't seem like it's financially a lot of skin off their backs and the numbers are pure profit. It's smart for them to do it.

And hey, I will admit I'm in the wrong and looking at the sales numbers, there's a bigger market than I expected for JP games on PC. I guess I just still latch on to that old stereotype that the majority of PC gamers are interested in complex strategy games, weird euro simulation games, WRPGs and dungeon crawlers... and they aren't so much into more 'arcadey' experiences.

Can it be both? Now I can get both my Eurojank, and weeabuguu~ on. :rejoice
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: thisismyusername on August 09, 2015, 03:31:31 PM
Quote from: D3RANG3D on August 09, 2015, 03:25:10 PM
Can it be both? Now I can get both my Eurojank, and weeabuguu~ on. :rejoice

This. You can get your Nihongo Kusoge and Polski gówno together now. :rejoice
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Himu on August 09, 2015, 03:42:34 PM
I'm looking to be upgrading soon and I'm not sure what to do: get a gaming laptop (1500) or buy a cheap computer (like an hp or something) and then put in a 970 and an i7 or just order a gaming pc from maingear. Thoughts?
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: D3RANG3D on August 09, 2015, 03:43:02 PM
Quote from: thisismyusername on August 09, 2015, 03:31:31 PM
Quote from: D3RANG3D on August 09, 2015, 03:25:10 PM
Can it be both? Now I can get both my Eurojank, and weeabuguu~ on. :rejoice

This. You can get your Nihongo Kusoge and Polski gówno together now. :rejoice

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Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: archie4208 on August 09, 2015, 04:12:12 PM
Quote from: Queen of Ice on August 09, 2015, 03:42:34 PM
I'm looking to be upgrading soon and I'm not sure what to do: get a gaming laptop (1500) or buy a cheap computer (like an hp or something) and then put in a 970 and an i7 or just order a gaming pc from maingear. Thoughts?

Build it.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Kara on August 09, 2015, 04:15:05 PM
Quote from: thisismyusername on August 09, 2015, 03:31:31 PM
Quote from: D3RANG3D on August 09, 2015, 03:25:10 PM
Can it be both? Now I can get both my Eurojank, and weeabuguu~ on. :rejoice

This. You can get your Nihongo Kusoge and Polski gówno together now. :rejoice

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Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Great Rumbler on August 09, 2015, 06:11:45 PM
Omega Quintet will probably get a PC version before long, considering the numbers that the Neptunia games have been getting. Even Fairy Fencer F is pulling in decent numbers [18k after less than a week].
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Rahxephon91 on August 09, 2015, 08:43:01 PM
Quote from: Human Snorenado on August 09, 2015, 02:01:11 PM
Talking to rah like his opinion matters

:heh
I really hope you die so very much and you can take that smug douche himuro with you.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Himu on August 09, 2015, 08:45:56 PM
How the fuck am I smug?! :rofl

I gave you facts. All I said was that Japanese developers are making it so that they can port their games to other systems more easily. Somehow you took this as a means of relaying a pro-MASTER RACE ELITE PC GAMING position, rather than the reality of what is happening currently in gaming. Then you took that, and started to insult and prod and DENY every single bit of evidence.

I have not been smug about shit! :lol Point me to where I'm being smug. If I am being smug about anything, it is towards your absolute foolishness and willingness to deny, deny, deny evidence and FACTS in favor of PS4, PS4, PS4 this entire discussion!
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Human Snorenado on August 10, 2015, 01:16:46 AM
Srsly, himu. The only correct way to deal with Fuckwad McDipshit here is to just ridicule him until he explodes and then runs away with his tail between his legs.

But for real, though, rah.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULGaOaln6Ao
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Rahxephon91 on August 10, 2015, 01:30:33 AM
That's all you fucktards do to me. Even before I supposedly "explode" you already come at me with complete assholishness. I don't devserve to be treated like an idiot because I don't fall in line with all your people's bullshit. username can't even fucking read what I'm saying and continues to be an asshole to me for no reason. And then you who's always been a gigantic asshole to me for no reason almost on que comes in and decides to belittle me even though I have nothing to do with you.

I said nothing about the PC being viable. Why that become part of the argument I don't know. I never implied the PS4 was anything other then a viable platforum to motivate development and I get blasted for being a Ps4 fanboy even though none of you fucks can argue against that. Again would any of these console games be in development if not for it's success outside of Japan?  Even with Steam? I fucking doubt it and none of you have been able to argue against that? Yet, I'm supposedly the dumb dulsuinal one even though none of you fucks seem to actually listen to what I'm saying. It's all actually the PC is great PC THIS, PS THAT! STEAM STEAM STEAM! Even though fucking username already basically admitted that if anything they've only begun to actually see PC is viable. I give reasons as to why Steam has yet to be become an actual focus. You tell me I'm wrong with the most flimsy logic. Oh a few recent games are actually treating the PC just like the console, I guess that counters any of the other points. Whatever I don't care, I hope you all fucking die. Every time I try to argue anything I get fucking attacked and then shit by douches like Snorenado. This is the worst place to talk about anything. And every Himuro post reads like "oh look at me, I'm such a unique and smart snowflake'. Fuck you.

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Also, you keep bringing up "there won't be any JP exclusives..." like it means anything. As if there will be many JP console exclusives as well. Do it, name the JP console exclusives, and you'll have a point. But you'll have to dig. You could start with Blloodborne and DQ11, but SO5 and Exist Archive have a high probability of being released on Steam.
And this is the prime example of such bullshit here. You can assume everything is going to turn PC, but oh no you can't assume they won't because mustnt take away from the pro PC argument. Even though shit like Ys and future Falcom titles don't have a 100% chance of coming to PC, you know if you actually pay attention and see that nothing really after Ys 7 that was new from them has come to steam. Oh yeah mustnt assume that things like SO5 and Last Arcive won't even though it's not like Tri Ace has an actual history of putting games on PC and both of them aren't Unreal. How about something like Nier? Nope ignore that one to. DQ Builders? Nope ignore that one because we supposedly don't know the quality of it. Yeah that dosen't sound like bullshit in order to hurt a point. Don't even bring up Kingdom Hearts because of course it will be on PC because Unreal despite Disney having an uneasy history on Steam. Yakuza games aren't on PC. Cyberslueth probably won't be on PC. Persona 5 probably won't be on PC,  Odin Sphere and future Vaniliaware titles probably won't be on PC, Dragon Quest Heroes and other Special Musuo titles aren't coming to PC seemingly,  and there more then 5 things that don't seem to be on PC.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Human Snorenado on August 10, 2015, 01:32:23 AM
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Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Himu on August 10, 2015, 01:37:27 AM
This argument started from me thinking you giving too much credit to ps4. That's all. :yeshrug You're right that ps4 is influential, but you took a pretty non-serious argument, shooting the breeze with friends and made it feel personal. It isn't PC this or PS that or anything. The original premise of this discussion was that there's a new recent boost in Japanese console games. You deemed it was SOLELY because of ps4. I unanimously disagreed, expressing as to why. That's not to say PS4 isn't an element, but you act like a Sony fanthing in regards to the system and this entire argument as if you're defending its honor despite the fact I said I'm going to buy a ps4 multiple times!

I think that quoting specific sections of peoples posts turns people off immensely. At least it does with me. I don't like that. I prefer people responding to the bulk of the posts content. I think that quoting sentence by sentence tends to rid posts of their general message and makes it into...word bites, mere quotations, without a cohesive whole, and it creates a lot of miscommunication. Which I think happens a lot in arguments with you. I love arguing and shooting the shit. It's just that you sometimes take things personal, or PERCEIVE to take things personal by way of quoting mass portions of posts instead of replying to their entire whole.

Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Himu on August 10, 2015, 01:42:54 AM
Here is the post that kick started this entire discussion. I still stand by it. Notice that I NEVER SAID A THING ABOUT PC.

Quote from: Queen of Ice on July 31, 2015, 10:44:00 AM
The recent boom of console RPGs literally has nothing to do with Sony. Ps4 has sold less than 360 lifetime in Japan.

The recent boom of console JRPGs is wholly due to tech. Namely, an engine called Unreal 4. You'll notice every new Japanese game is using it. It is up to you as to guess why.

Also, this is the post that kick started you somehow thinking I'm all, PC, PC, PC.

http://www.thebore.com/forum/index.php?topic=37709.msg2071330#msg2071330

All I really said was:

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    2. There are far more market options now, you can easily make a game for ps4 and port it to PC AND turn a profit

Sure sounds like PC PC PC PC PC PC PC MASTER RACE to me! :what
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: thisismyusername on August 10, 2015, 01:58:21 AM
Quote from: Rahxephon91 on August 10, 2015, 01:30:33 AM
username can't even fucking read what I'm saying and continues to be an asshole to me for no reason.

I'm being an asshole to you because you have the wrong misconception.

You: "PC gaming isn't even a factor for Japan."

Rest of Us: "LOL 2+ years of PC exploding and Dark Souls helping usher in Japan sales here."

You: "Yeah, but those PC ports are shit thereby Console first and--"

Rest of Us: "And, no one cares. Japan 'taking PC seriously' means they're actually starting to port shit. Baby steps, dude."

You: "Yeah but those PC ports are still shit."

You keep bringing up that "consoles first" is somehow "Japan doesn't take PC seriously!" when it's more "Japan doesn't know what PC gamers want when it comes to a port thus those shit ports are shit because they have no idea." Then you have the misconception that UE4 isn't a factor for the JRPG "boom" coming back to consoles.

Here's the thing: Japan got buttfucked hard by HD last generation. This is the reason they moved to mobile, they had no clue how to do HD engine development and didn't learn to use middleware like Western devs did since the PS2 era (go see: Renderware and it powering GTA3/VC/SA for Rockstar). They were "top dog" that era so they didn't learn the "path of least resistance" programming and development for faster/cheaper turn around.

Unreal Engine finally getting proper documentation is why UE4 is being used by Japanese developers in droves (and partly why the Fox Engine is probably being shitbinned by Konami since Kojima's goal was to license that). It's why Square is finally starting to realize that instead of building shit for one title like FF13 and then having to repurpose the engine/assets to make back their money, they can simply create the assets while modifying a middleware engine to suit their purpose.

Also, BONUS BONUS BONUS: They can then port the source-code to whatever platforms that Middleware supports. This even includes... *gasp* PC which has demand for Japanese titles for them to "take seriously." This means after their first port they get feedback (read: Durante's post to them in regards to PC customization features and the like) on what PC people want in regards to the ports and then can work on them. This mostly isn't a problem when they develop on PC and are using a PC-based engine/middleware to do it. It's a matter of toggling those custom options on a la their "debug/dev kit" for the engine.

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Even though shit like Ys and future Falcom titles don't have a 100% chance of coming to PC, you know if you actually pay attention and see that nothing really after Ys 7 that was new from them has come to steam.

See above. Rinse and repeat of the cycle from you.

"But there's no new titles coming to PC from them, thereby console first and--"

"--Late ports, etc. Nobody really cares so long as the port happens eventually. They can not announce it and then release it later. See: Grand Theft Auto 5."
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Rahxephon91 on August 10, 2015, 02:09:18 AM
So in summary, Japan taking PC seriously means treating PC gamers as 2nd class citizens. Fine, I don't care. I don't care about PC gaming. Yes fine, PC gaming is the reason Japan is making console games again.

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Then you have the misconception that UE4 isn't a factor for the JRPG "boom" coming back to consoles.
But I don't. I never brought up Unreal and other engines because they did'nt cross my mind but then I proceeded to not downplay them. So no, I don't have the misconception, but please tell me things I already know.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Great Rumbler on August 10, 2015, 08:58:41 AM
Quote from: Rahxephon91 on August 10, 2015, 02:09:18 AM
So in summary, Japan taking PC seriously means treating PC gamers as 2nd class citizens.

That was maybe true about two years ago, it's significantly less true now.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Beezy on August 10, 2015, 08:59:22 AM
why did I come in here
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: thisismyusername on August 10, 2015, 09:10:50 AM
Quote from: Rahxephon91 on August 10, 2015, 02:09:18 AM
So in summary, Japan taking PC seriously means treating PC gamers as 2nd class citizens.

You keep bringing that up as if that's true. :lol

a person who is not accorded a fair share of respect, recognition, or consideration: (http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/second-class+citizen)

This would be true ten fucking years ago when PC ports of Japanese titles weren't happening. If you asked anyone if Street Fighter/et. al. were coming to PC? You'd have been laughed out of the mansion you were in (#PCMASTERRACEYALL). Now a days? It's completely possible.

"Yeah but the ports are shit."

Again, baby steps dude. It's Japan finally realizing there's a fucking market for their shit on the platform. How is this hard for you to get? There is no "second class citizenship" in anything. It's Japan cluelessly trying to get on the platform since it's hot, similar to them grasping at straws on mobile. The thing is, mobile was new and not an "established platform" for longer than it took them to get onto PC. Thereby they were as clueless as the western devs.

Quote from: Great Rumbler on August 10, 2015, 08:58:41 AM
Quote from: Rahxephon91 on August 10, 2015, 02:09:18 AM
So in summary, Japan taking PC seriously means treating PC gamers as 2nd class citizens.

That was maybe true about two years ago, it's significantly less true now.

Also this.

I don't even know why I'm bothering with you because Himuro is right: You have some sort of chip on your shoulder to where you have to make this a PC vs consoles debate when there is none. PC is being taken "seriously" in Japan because the west is going that direction. Why do you think console sales are shrinking while PC hardware/sales is starting to rise? Because shit that wasn't on PC before is starting to come because the demand is there.

1+1 = ??? bro.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Rahxephon91 on August 10, 2015, 10:08:27 AM
Yeah, I guess PC gamers aren't treated as 2nd class citizens. They just have to deal with crappy ports that someone else has to fix, random versions of games that are gimped, late ports which I guess for some reason doesn't matter even though I see people complaining that they have to wait (but I guess all those threads where PC gamers were mad that GTAV wasn't announced on the PC were fake), and still not being 100% sure games are coming to the point of having to have petitions. Yeah, that's the definition of being treated with respect(because versions that aren't optimized shows this), recognition(because coming late shows it), and consideration(because I guess they eventually listen to petitions).

I did'nt try to make this a PC vs console debate, because I don't really care what goes on on the PC. I just did'nt think it was a huge part of Japanese gaming or really the main focus/place for them. But I guess they are because no one cares about crappy ports that come late and obviously Japan is focusing on PC because games simply come whenever and however. 
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Great Rumbler on August 10, 2015, 10:17:30 AM
Quote from: Rahxephon91 on August 10, 2015, 10:08:27 AM
Yeah, I guess PC gamers aren't treated as 2nd class citizens. They just have to deal with crappy ports that someone else has to fix, random versions of games that are gimped, late ports

Dark Souls 1 PC [3 years ago] was a bad port, that's true, and came out nearly a year after the console versions. Dark Souls 2 PC came out just 6 weeks after the console versions and was a far, far better port than the original. I'll be very surprised if the PC version of Dark Souls 3 doesn't come out on the same day as the console versions.

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I did'nt try to make this a PC vs console debate, because I don't really care what goes on on the PC.

Uh...yeah, we've gleaned that from your previous posts. But maybe you should care a little bit if you're going to be making a dozen lengthy posts about the current PC market for Japanese games.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Himu on August 10, 2015, 10:24:30 AM
The ports are shit argument is even asinine. Ultra SFIV has the best net code, the least input lag, the best graphics. It is the best version. ??? Baby steps what? ??? The trend will likely be true for SFV.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Rahxephon91 on August 10, 2015, 10:37:51 AM
Asinine?

So Square's terrible ports of the XIII games didn't happen.

That terribly un optimized port of Killer is Dead never happen.

The Akiba's Strip port that simply won't work on some hardware didn't happen.

The Deadly Premonition port lacking any actual signs of being a quality port didn't happen.

The delay between Blaz Blue games does not happen.

Hell that fiasco with Dead or Alive 5's port must have not happen either. Has Koei made an actual good pc port?
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Great Rumbler on August 10, 2015, 10:45:37 AM
Quote from: Rahxephon91 on August 10, 2015, 10:37:51 AM
So Square's terrible ports of the XIII games didn't happen.

That terribly un optimized port of Killer is Dead never happen.

The Akiba's Strip port that simply won't work on some hardware didn't happen.

The Deadly Premonition port lacking any actual signs of being a quality port didn't happen.

Are you actually speaking from experience here or are you just repeating something you read on GAF?
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Himu on August 10, 2015, 10:48:33 AM
Dynasty Warriors 8 XL is fantastic. Koei have made multiple PC versions of their games over the years and are not new at this.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Rahxephon91 on August 10, 2015, 10:54:52 AM
Quote from: Great Rumbler on August 10, 2015, 10:45:37 AM
Quote from: Rahxephon91 on August 10, 2015, 10:37:51 AM
So Square's terrible ports of the XIII games didn't happen.

That terribly un optimized port of Killer is Dead never happen.

The Akiba's Strip port that simply won't work on some hardware didn't happen.

The Deadly Premonition port lacking any actual signs of being a quality port didn't happen.

Are you actually speaking from experience here or are you just repeating something you read on GAF?
I can of course speak from experience on the XIII games. Also Deadly. The rest are just from reading about them.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Great Rumbler on August 10, 2015, 10:56:48 AM
But really, though, the fact that all those games you listed got PC ports within the past year or two is pretty telling in itself.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: tiesto on August 10, 2015, 12:12:40 PM
Quote from: thisismyusername on August 10, 2015, 09:10:50 AM
Again, baby steps dude. It's Japan finally realizing there's a fucking market for their shit on the platform. How is this hard for you to get? There is no "second class citizenship" in anything. It's Japan cluelessly trying to get on the platform since it's hot, similar to them grasping at straws on mobile. The thing is, mobile was new and not an "established platform" for longer than it took them to get onto PC. Thereby they were as clueless as the western devs.

Just to correct you, Japan was huge on mobile back since the pre-smartphone/flipphone days. Tons of ports of classic games (I wish that the Seiken Densetsu 1 port got a US release), all those gatchapon card games, etc. back when the west was still playing Snake and sluggish Java-based Tetris.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: bork on August 10, 2015, 12:14:14 PM
Quote from: Queen of Ice on August 10, 2015, 10:48:33 AM
Dynasty Warriors 8 XL is fantastic. Koei have made multiple PC versions of their games over the years and are not new at this.

It has had technical issues, has no online play, and uses PS3 assets.  I haven't been very impressed with Koei's PC offerings.  They claim that Samurai Warriors 4-II will be the same as the PS4 version (not sure about One Piece Pirate Warriors 3), so maybe things will get better.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: bork on August 10, 2015, 12:15:16 PM
Quote from: tiesto on August 10, 2015, 12:12:40 PM
Quote from: thisismyusername on August 10, 2015, 09:10:50 AM
Again, baby steps dude. It's Japan finally realizing there's a fucking market for their shit on the platform. How is this hard for you to get? There is no "second class citizenship" in anything. It's Japan cluelessly trying to get on the platform since it's hot, similar to them grasping at straws on mobile. The thing is, mobile was new and not an "established platform" for longer than it took them to get onto PC. Thereby they were as clueless as the western devs.

Just to correct you, Japan was huge on mobile back since the pre-smartphone/flipphone days. Tons of ports of classic games (I wish that the Seiken Densetsu 1 port got a US release), all those gatchapon card games, etc. back when the west was still playing Snake and sluggish Java-based Tetris.

That's correct.  The only thing that took Japan longer to jump onto were smartphones.  Nobody cared about the first iPhone launch over there in 2008.  Most phones already did a lot of the stuff smartphones did at the time  and had features that smartphones didn't get until recently, like eWallets and the like.

I remember seeing billboards advertising a Final Fantasy VII-related phone game back in 2004.  Billboards!

Had some pretty cool games on my phone.  Used to enjoy this Valis 1 remake that had redone visuals and music.  It's too bad stuff like that is pretty much lost forever.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Human Snorenado on August 10, 2015, 12:26:09 PM
Guys, I just want to say that the past 3 pages have never made me feel better about being a pc only gamer if that's the sort of sperglinger that plays only consoles.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Himu on August 10, 2015, 12:29:24 PM
Quote from: bork laser on August 10, 2015, 12:14:14 PM
Quote from: Queen of Ice on August 10, 2015, 10:48:33 AM
Dynasty Warriors 8 XL is fantastic. Koei have made multiple PC versions of their games over the years and are not new at this.

It has had technical issues, has no online play, and uses PS3 assets.  I haven't been very impressed with Koei's PC offerings.  They claim that Samurai Warriors 4-II will be the same as the PS4 version (not sure about One Piece Pirate Warriors 3), so maybe things will get better.

What technical issues? Only real issue is no online. 60 fps is a fine trade off. I can never connect and play online with anyone on any Musou game anyways. People barely play online as it is, even on ps3. Even then, nothing you really said negates my point that they're still great ports. Who cares if they're PS3 assets? I sure don't.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: bork on August 10, 2015, 12:37:00 PM
I expect PS4-level visuals and a superior framerate on PC.  There's no excuse not to get both.  The same goes for Dead Or Alive 5 Last Round, which I don't even understand why they bothered releasing since they seemed down on a PC version right from the start.

Go check the Steam forums for technical issue stuff...note that I said "had."  I think stuff finally got fixed.  It used to have a lot of crashing issues, for one thing.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Himu on August 10, 2015, 12:42:20 PM
You didn't get superior frame rate on PC? Mine is all that and I got really good speed. Much better than on PS3.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: mormapope on August 10, 2015, 12:44:14 PM
AAA games from Japan seem to be better than ever though. If we look at non AAA Western games exclusively made for PC and all the bugs and technical shit that may follow, we could make a list of that stuff as well. Deadly Premonition runs like complete ass on 360 and PS3. Killer is Dead is in the same boat. Two mid tier budget games that probably got outsourced quick as fuck.

Shit, Warner Brothers shit the bed twice with their AAA offerings on PC this year. Luckily The Witcher 3 devs know how to make PC games and shit wasn't outsourced. 
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: bork on August 10, 2015, 12:45:19 PM
Anyway, I have to agree that a lot of PC versions of console games still get crappy ports -look at Batman Arkham Knight and Mortal Kombat X if you want more than what Rahx named-  and it's pretty much inexcusable.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: bork on August 10, 2015, 12:50:01 PM
Quote from: Queen of Ice on August 10, 2015, 12:42:20 PM
You didn't get superior frame rate on PC? Mine is all that and I got really good speed. Much better than on PS3.

I probably should have worded that differently.  I meant that I expect both superior visuals and a superior framerate on PS3.  While I appreciate that it runs significantly better on PC, it doesn't look all that hot and those PS3-level visuals look even worse in 1080P.  There is no perfect version of DW8XL out there, sadly.  PS4 looks the best, but has some major framerate issues.  PC runs the best but looks like PS3, meaning all the enemy pop-in is still there.

That reminds me, I really should get rid of DW8XL on PS4 and get DW8 Empires instead.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Rahxephon91 on August 10, 2015, 03:27:50 PM
Quote from: Human Snorenado on August 10, 2015, 12:26:09 PM
Guys, I just want to say that the past 3 pages have never made me feel better about being a pc only gamer if that's the sort of sperglinger that plays only consoles.
I actually play things like Civilization, Battlefield, and ironically FF14 on PC. So it really has nothing to do with fanboyism on my part. I simply don't think at least yet that Japanese PC support is anything fantastic beyond that it is actually a thing now. Why you have to be a douche to me no matter what I don't understand. yes, maybe I do fly off the handle but it's only because thanks to people like you I already feel like I'm posting in a hostile environment. Whatever, I know you're just a bitter dude anyway so I shouldn't even give a shit.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: bork on August 10, 2015, 03:29:21 PM
Quote from: Rahxephon91 on August 10, 2015, 03:27:50 PM
Quote from: Human Snorenado on August 10, 2015, 12:26:09 PM
Guys, I just want to say that the past 3 pages have never made me feel better about being a pc only gamer if that's the sort of sperglinger that plays only consoles.
I actually play things like Civilization, Battlefield, and ironically FF14 on PC. So it really has nothing to do with fanboyism on my part. I simply don't think at least yet that Japanese PC support is anything fantastic beyond that it is actually a thing now. Why you have to be a douche to me no matter what I don't understand. yes, maybe I do fly off the handle but it's only because thanks to people like you I already feel like I'm posting in a hostile environment. Whatever, I know you're just a bitter dude anyway so I shouldn't even give a shit.

The only things that I keep seeing that come off as "hostile" here are your posts.  Stop taking this place so seriously.  It's fucking VIDEO GAMES. 
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Rahxephon91 on August 10, 2015, 04:44:49 PM
Sorry, I can't help it. I try to not be hostile, but I can't I guess.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: tiesto on August 10, 2015, 05:35:18 PM
Yeah, Creepy Old Guy may have a bit of an abrasive personality (still love ya tho  :-* ) but I have never heard him tell someone to kill themselves...

Rahx, while I do agree with you that some people overblow JP PC support, and while I also generally prefer console to PC, it's still just video games and it's not really something worth caring too much about..

..well, arguing can be fun and therapeutic (I've traded blows with Himu and Segata among others), there comes a point where it's unhealthy though.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Human Snorenado on August 10, 2015, 05:38:42 PM
I have told JayDubya to kill himself multiple times, but he's just a libertarian, so.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Steve Contra on August 10, 2015, 05:50:43 PM
Quote from: Human Snorenado on August 10, 2015, 05:38:42 PM
I have told JayDubya to kill himself multiple times, but he's just a libertarian, so.
So...the market will decide whether he lives or dies ???
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Human Snorenado on August 10, 2015, 05:58:17 PM
I think it's more accurate to say that the market has spoken, and it quite frankly doesn't give a shit if he lives or dies.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: thisismyusername on August 10, 2015, 06:06:45 PM
Quote from: bork laser on August 10, 2015, 12:45:19 PM
Anyway, I have to agree that a lot of PC versions of console games still get crappy ports -look at Batman Arkham Knight and Mortal Kombat X if you want more than what Rahx named-  and it's pretty much inexcusable.

Actually, on the drive today I was thinking that. Both sides have shitty PC ports now and then, it's not just Japanese exclusive. But Japan is the "new kid" in town to where some of these ports are at least excusable up to a point. If Tecmo's next PC title is still as bad as DoA5 or that Dynasty Warriors title, they can promptly fuck off. There's only so much rope people will give them while they find their footing but if they continue to stumble I don't blame people for dropping their support. Same with the west. Arkham Knight's outsourced port is inexcusable.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Human Snorenado on August 10, 2015, 06:56:57 PM
My life can't be all that shitty; one of us could afford Witcher 3 at launch, and it wasn't you.

:neogaf
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Human Snorenado on August 10, 2015, 07:18:01 PM
I'm sorry you're not dedicated enough to pulling yourself up by your own bootstraps to buy nice things for yourself.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Great Rumbler on August 10, 2015, 07:24:12 PM
Well, I thought this thread couldn't possibly get any worse. I was wrong.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: archie4208 on August 10, 2015, 09:02:56 PM
I hate to interrupt all the shitposting but how about some actual sales news.

Quote from: https://twitter.com/Steam_Spy/status/630819775615225858
In the last four months there were at least 107 million copies of games sold on Steam.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: OnlyRegret on August 10, 2015, 09:08:25 PM
Quote from: Great Rumbler on August 10, 2015, 07:24:12 PM
Well, I thought this thread couldn't possibly get any worse. I was wrong.

Despite being so much smaller a site, posters really put in that extra effort to be as melodramatic as any other forum.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: thisismyusername on August 11, 2015, 01:21:54 AM
Quote from: archie4208 on August 10, 2015, 09:02:56 PM
I hate to interrupt all the shitposting but how about some actual sales news.

Quote from: https://twitter.com/Steam_Spy/status/630819775615225858
In the last four months there were at least 107 million copies of games sold on Steam.

B-B-BUT PS4 IS BRINGING JAPAN BACK TO CONSOLES!

Nahhhh it can't be the former PC engine turned multiplatform engine that is doing that. Can't be.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Rahxephon91 on August 11, 2015, 03:05:26 AM
Again, I never said anything thing discrediting the use of multi engines.  But sure all the anoucments of Japanese games for PS4 mean nothing. Companies making Vita ports or day 1 pS4 versions means nothing.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: archie4208 on August 11, 2015, 07:21:16 AM
GTA 5 sells 54 million copies (http://www.ign.com/articles/2015/08/10/grand-theft-auto-5-has-now-sold-54-million-copies)

Civilization franchise sells 31 million copies (http://www.gamespot.com/articles/civilization-series-reaches-31-million-units-shipp/1100-6429632/)
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on August 11, 2015, 12:21:03 PM
Take 2 earnings are 81% from consoles.

Imagine how little pc means for jap devs. Single digit.

Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: mormapope on August 11, 2015, 12:41:23 PM
Quote from: Premium Lager on August 11, 2015, 12:21:03 PM
Take 2 earnings are 81% from consoles.

Imagine how little pc means for jap devs. Single digit.

I hope this is sarcasm
 :ufup
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Trent Dole on August 11, 2015, 02:21:43 PM
Quote from: Premium Lager on August 11, 2015, 12:21:03 PM
Take 2 earnings are 81% from consoles.

Imagine how little pc means for jap devs. Single digit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nc_LIR5ExIU
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Himu on August 11, 2015, 02:22:57 PM
Quote from: Premium Lager on August 11, 2015, 12:21:03 PM
Take 2 earnings are 81% from consoles.

Imagine how little pc means for jap devs. Single digit.

Are you saying that 20% of sales in less than a year for a game that's been on consoles since September 2013 - so almost two years -  is not a big deal?  :heh
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: thisismyusername on August 11, 2015, 02:28:00 PM
Quote from: Premium Lager on August 11, 2015, 12:21:03 PM
Take 2 earnings are 81% from consoles.

Imagine how little pc means for jap devs. Single digit.

 :lol :lol :lol

Oh, wait you're serious? Let me just upgrade that to:
:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :neogaf :neogaf :neogaf :neogaf :neogaf :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Himu on August 11, 2015, 02:40:41 PM
PS4 stans are the dumbest console fanboys I've seen in a long, long, LONG time.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Trent Dole on August 11, 2015, 03:01:02 PM
Quote from: Queen of Ice on August 11, 2015, 02:40:41 PM
PS4 stans are the dumbest console fanboys I've seen in a long, long, LONG time.
The system won in the console space almost by default and is the most powerful piece of kit out there and thus there's literally no need of taking up arms for the thing. :wtf
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Himu on August 11, 2015, 03:11:45 PM
I don't recall us ps2 stans being this bad. :hitler
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Rahxephon91 on August 11, 2015, 04:05:06 PM
Yes, if only we were PC snobs who feel the need to tell us how awesome they are at every corner.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Himu on August 11, 2015, 04:21:06 PM
PC snobs are pretty obnoxious. I'm not sure where gleamed I'm a snob, though. You have inferred, without evidence, for whatever reason that is the case, however. 
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on August 11, 2015, 04:43:42 PM
Quote from: Queen of Ice on August 11, 2015, 02:22:57 PM
Quote from: Premium Lager on August 11, 2015, 12:21:03 PM
Take 2 earnings are 81% from consoles.

Imagine how little pc means for jap devs. Single digit.

Are you saying that 20% of sales in less than a year for a game that's been on consoles since September 2013 - so almost two years -  is not a big deal?  :heh

Jesus Himuro read the fucking report.

PC only contributes to 19% of take two revenue OVERALL not only GTA, so thats even worse

At least with Oscar you could argue about numbers but you guys are dumb as shit
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Himu on August 11, 2015, 04:48:24 PM
19% of $366.4 million USD. What's your point? That's why no one is arguing with the numbers, because that's a damn lot amount of money. Yet you say we're dumb as shit, when you think 19% of $366 million is "a single digit". Why should anyone take you seriously on this matter, then?
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on August 11, 2015, 04:51:04 PM
Single digit % of the revenue

Are you being obtuse on purpose? I said T2 only has 19% rev from pc, I wasnt talking about millions of dollars
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Himu on August 11, 2015, 05:00:15 PM
Math  :yuck :yuck :yuck :yuck :yuck :yuck :yuck :yuck :yuck :yuck

Writing and creative  :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: mormapope on August 11, 2015, 05:02:28 PM
Quote
After Grand Theft Auto V and Grand Theft Auto Online, the largest contributors to Take-Two's net revenue were NBA 2K15, Borderlands: The Handsome Collection, and WWE 2K15.

So two sports games, that never sell that well on PC, and a Borderlands collection that PC owners probably wouldn't get due to each Borderlands being on sale in the past. 

This is a good comparison to Japanese developed console/PC margins?  :letsfukk

Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Great Rumbler on August 11, 2015, 05:08:39 PM
Quote from: Premium Lager on August 11, 2015, 04:43:42 PM
Jesus Himuro read the fucking report.

PC only contributes to 19% of take two revenue OVERALL not only GTA, so thats even worse

At least with Oscar you could argue about numbers but you guys are dumb as shit

That 81% is split between 4 different platforms. So, yeah, 19% is kind of a lot, actually.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Rufus on August 11, 2015, 05:19:41 PM
Quote from: Great Rumbler on August 11, 2015, 05:08:39 PM
Quote from: Premium Lager on August 11, 2015, 04:43:42 PM
Jesus Himuro read the fucking report.

PC only contributes to 19% of take two revenue OVERALL not only GTA, so thats even worse

At least with Oscar you could argue about numbers but you guys are dumb as shit

That 81% is split between 4 different platforms. So, yeah, 19% is kind of a lot, actually.
Also, if you want to use that to say that PC means nothing to Japanese devs, you have to consider what they make on consoles, which given the sales of PS4 over there can't be that much.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on August 11, 2015, 05:31:52 PM
The reason for the delays is that Rockstar knows where the dough is, on consoles
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Great Rumbler on August 11, 2015, 05:40:21 PM
Quote from: Premium Lager on August 11, 2015, 05:31:52 PM
The reason for the delays is that Rockstar knows where the dough is, on consoles

Which one, though?
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Himu on August 11, 2015, 05:40:44 PM
:neogaf
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: thisismyusername on August 11, 2015, 06:09:31 PM
Quote from: Rufus on August 11, 2015, 05:19:41 PM
Quote from: Great Rumbler on August 11, 2015, 05:08:39 PM
Quote from: Premium Lager on August 11, 2015, 04:43:42 PM
Jesus Himuro read the fucking report.

PC only contributes to 19% of take two revenue OVERALL not only GTA, so thats even worse

At least with Oscar you could argue about numbers but you guys are dumb as shit

That 81% is split between 4 different platforms. So, yeah, 19% is kind of a lot, actually.
Also, if you want to use that to say that PC means nothing to Japanese devs, you have to consider what they make on consoles, which given the sales of PS4 over there can't be that much.

Or: (http://i.ytimg.com/vi/7tHGNrDowGA/hqdefault.jpg)

Metal Gear Solid 5 is coming day and date with consoles while Konami itself is getting out of the game business. Not taking PC seriously, wut?
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: mormapope on August 11, 2015, 08:18:35 PM
Konami's biggest sin before bowing out is never re-porting MGS2 and never porting MGS3 to PC. Shit, rerelease MGS1 you dumbfucks, its easy money.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Great Rumbler on August 11, 2015, 09:00:56 PM
Fairy Fencer F, which came out last week on Steam, has already sold about 30k copies. Sales in Japan were probably about 75k maximum [it sold 6k in the last week where a specific number was mentioned, putting its total at 46k, then it quickly dropped down the chart]. Now, the Japanese version was being sold at a much higher price, but I can't imagine that Idea Factory is looking at the Steam numbers and somehow viewing them as disappointing.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Positive Touch on August 11, 2015, 09:27:17 PM
Quote from: mormapope on August 11, 2015, 08:18:35 PM
Konami's biggest sin before bowing out is never re-porting MGS2 and never porting MGS3 to PC. Shit, rerelease MGS1 you dumbfucks, its easy money.

Konami could clean up by fixing their old ports of metal gear and silent hill games. shame they don't care.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Great Rumbler on August 11, 2015, 09:59:08 PM
Quote from: Positive Touch on August 11, 2015, 09:27:17 PM
Quote from: mormapope on August 11, 2015, 08:18:35 PM
Konami's biggest sin before bowing out is never re-porting MGS2 and never porting MGS3 to PC. Shit, rerelease MGS1 you dumbfucks, its easy money.

Konami could clean up by fixing their old ports of metal gear and silent hill games. shame they don't care.

Konami, apparently, has zero interest in its own legacy. I really don't understand how a company with a history as long and as storied as Konami gets to that point, but from what people who've worked there have been saying recently the company leadership is really screwed up.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Tasty on August 11, 2015, 09:59:58 PM
Jesus fucking shit where did four fucking pages come from since I last checked this thread

Oh just Rahx being a dumbass, makes sense
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: thisismyusername on August 11, 2015, 10:17:12 PM
Quote from: Great Rumbler on August 11, 2015, 05:08:39 PM
Quote from: Premium Lager on August 11, 2015, 04:43:42 PM
Jesus Himuro read the fucking report.

PC only contributes to 19% of take two revenue OVERALL not only GTA, so thats even worse

At least with Oscar you could argue about numbers but you guys are dumb as shit

That 81% is split between 4 different platforms. So, yeah, 19% is kind of a lot, actually.

Even if we're being generous and dropping PS360 from the equation that'd be 19% (nearly 20%) for PC versus the... 40.5% for PS4 and X-box.

20% vs 40% to two consoles. A 20% gap. ZOMG PC ISN'T A WORTHWHILE INVESTMENT AMIRITE!?

(Spoiler for Rah and Lager: PC cuts most of the middlemen retail bullshit out thereby publishers get more outside of that 10-30% cut the publishing platform [Valve/Steam, Apple/App Store,...] takes from.)

If we're going to cut PS360 back in for realism that'd be 20.25% for 81% versus 19% (nearly 20%) on PC. A .25% difference. ZOMG PC ISN'T TO BE TAKEN SERIOUSLY AMIRITE?
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Rahxephon91 on August 11, 2015, 10:45:15 PM
Quote
ZOMG PC ISN'T TO BE TAKEN SERIOUSLY AMIRITE?
I never said it should'nt be taken seriously. I said I don't think Japan's effort on it is that great. But fine I get it, PC is awesome. There. Are you happy?
Quote from: Tasty Meat on August 11, 2015, 09:59:58 PM


Oh just Rahx being a dumbass, makes sense
Go fuck yourself you taco.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Himu on August 11, 2015, 10:49:27 PM
I'm sure he already does, Rah.

Anyways, konami is releasing all the Suikoden games on psn. :larry Maybe they're gearing up something for Suiko's 20th anniversary? :larry you will always be my favorite jrpg series. :tocry
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Positive Touch on August 12, 2015, 12:32:53 AM
oh himu


Quote from: Great Rumbler on August 11, 2015, 09:59:08 PM
Quote from: Positive Touch on August 11, 2015, 09:27:17 PM
Quote from: mormapope on August 11, 2015, 08:18:35 PM
Konami's biggest sin before bowing out is never re-porting MGS2 and never porting MGS3 to PC. Shit, rerelease MGS1 you dumbfucks, its easy money.

Konami could clean up by fixing their old ports of metal gear and silent hill games. shame they don't care.

Konami, apparently, has zero interest in its own legacy. I really don't understand how a company with a history as long and as storied as Konami gets to that point, but from what people who've worked there have been saying recently the company leadership is really screwed up.

yeah I just seen that article about how awful the company culture is right now. that's a real damn shame. there's so much they could be doing with all those classic ips, but if management wants to ignore em and treat everyone there like shit too, there's not much hope. I feel genuinely bad for anyone working there right now.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Human Snorenado on August 12, 2015, 12:36:28 AM
Quote from: Queen of Ice on August 11, 2015, 10:49:27 PM
I'm sure he already does, Rah.

Anyways, konami is releasing all the Suikoden games on psn. :larry Maybe they're gearing up something for Suiko's 20th anniversary? :larry you will always be my favorite jrpg series. :tocry

...even Suikoden III?

:uguu
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: thisismyusername on August 12, 2015, 12:37:10 AM
Well, MGS1-3 isn't a huge loss since you can already emulate those. Granted, 3 probably won't do 60FPS but still...

Bigger loss (depending on who you ask) is not having 4 and Peace Walker HD. Peace Walker can be done with PPSSPP and maybe the 360 emulator but 4 is a toss up depending on how fast they get that PS3 emulator going.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Himu on August 12, 2015, 12:42:40 AM
Quote from: Human Snorenado on August 12, 2015, 12:36:28 AM
Quote from: Queen of Ice on August 11, 2015, 10:49:27 PM
I'm sure he already does, Rah.

Anyways, konami is releasing all the Suikoden games on psn. :larry Maybe they're gearing up something for Suiko's 20th anniversary? :larry you will always be my favorite jrpg series. :tocry

...even Suikoden III?

:uguu

They put Suiko III on psn last month. :aah
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Great Rumbler on August 12, 2015, 12:44:15 AM
Quote from: Queen of Ice on August 11, 2015, 10:49:27 PM
I'm sure he already does, Rah.

Anyways, konami is releasing all the Suikoden games on psn. :larry Maybe they're gearing up something for Suiko's 20th anniversary? :larry you will always be my favorite jrpg series. :tocry

TRIGGER WARNING :

spoiler (click to show/hide)
Konami
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will release a new
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Suikoden
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on
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pachinko machines.
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(Source : an insider at The Bore)  | OT | NO SPOILERS
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: thisismyusername on August 12, 2015, 12:50:16 AM
Himu be like: (http://i.imgur.com/d2aDmd3.jpg)

(Man if only an X-box emulator was alive... *sigh*)
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Himu on August 12, 2015, 12:58:43 AM
Silent Hill :brazilcry

I'm sorry what they did to you, boo. I'm so sorry!

Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Positive Touch on August 12, 2015, 01:29:52 AM
silent hill was such a great trilogy. wonder what they coulda done with the series if they kept going.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on August 12, 2015, 01:30:01 AM
Quote from: thisismyusername on August 11, 2015, 10:17:12 PM
Quote from: Great Rumbler on August 11, 2015, 05:08:39 PM
Quote from: Premium Lager on August 11, 2015, 04:43:42 PM
Jesus Himuro read the fucking report.

PC only contributes to 19% of take two revenue OVERALL not only GTA, so thats even worse

At least with Oscar you could argue about numbers but you guys are dumb as shit

That 81% is split between 4 different platforms. So, yeah, 19% is kind of a lot, actually.

Even if we're being generous and dropping PS360 from the equation that'd be 19% (nearly 20%) for PC versus the... 40.5% for PS4 and X-box.

20% vs 40% to two consoles. A 20% gap. ZOMG PC ISN'T A WORTHWHILE INVESTMENT AMIRITE!?

(Spoiler for Rah and Lager: PC cuts most of the middlemen retail bullshit out thereby publishers get more outside of that 10-30% cut the publishing platform [Valve/Steam, Apple/App Store,...] takes from.)

If we're going to cut PS360 back in for realism that'd be 20.25% for 81% versus 19% (nearly 20%) on PC. A .25% difference. ZOMG PC ISN'T TO BE TAKEN SERIOUSLY AMIRITE?

Yeah if we disregard the majority of consoles out there pc numbers look better,

Maybe we should disregard any sales of games on pcs that have components prior to xbone and ps4 launch?
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Himu on August 12, 2015, 01:53:13 AM
Quote from: Positive Touch on August 12, 2015, 01:29:52 AM
silent hill was such a great trilogy. wonder what they coulda done with the series if they kept going.

really was a great trilogy
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: mormapope on August 12, 2015, 02:23:19 AM
Quote from: thisismyusername on August 12, 2015, 12:37:10 AM
Well, MGS1-3 isn't a huge loss since you can already emulate those. Granted, 3 probably won't do 60FPS but still...

Bigger loss (depending on who you ask) is not having 4 and Peace Walker HD. Peace Walker can be done with PPSSPP and maybe the 360 emulator but 4 is a toss up depending on how fast they get that PS3 emulator going.

MGS3 at 60 FPS  :lawd
Going back to 30 FPS  :brazilcry

MGS3 HD is without a doubt one of the best ports and remasterings ever. When I think of what a remaster should be, MGS3 HD is it. 

Peacewalker is a good game but its barely a stealth game, plays more like a stealth game with action mechanics. MGS4 is fucking terrible but it should've been ported to PC and 360. Don't give a fuck if the game is a million gigabytes, it should've been on 360 at some point.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: thisismyusername on August 12, 2015, 07:15:08 AM
Quote from: Premium Lager on August 12, 2015, 01:30:01 AM
Yeah if we disregard the majority of consoles out there pc numbers look better,

WHOOSH goes the point over your head. But that's okay, we now all know where Polish gówno comes from.

Also way to dodge me putting the last gen consoles back in and showing you all platforms are nearly neck and neck for 2K. But googoogoodjob, idiot.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on August 12, 2015, 08:28:14 AM
Would Gta be made if there were no consoles? No

Would Gta be made if Rockstar didnt release it on PC? Yes

Thats basicly the end of the discussion.

Dunno why you got to bring ethnic slurs to the table. No point talking to racist scum like you
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Great Rumbler on August 12, 2015, 08:50:27 AM
Quote from: Premium Lager on August 12, 2015, 08:28:14 AM
Would Gta be made if there were no consoles?

Yes, because if consoles didn't exist, then everyone would have a PC.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Himu on August 12, 2015, 08:55:16 AM
When did anyone ever say consoles aren't important? :mindblown

ALL WE HAVE MAINTAINED THIS ENTIRE DISCUSSION IS THAT PC GIVES COMPANIES EXTRA PROFIT. IT'S JUST ANOTHER PLATFORM AMONG A SEA OF PLATFORMS. 20 %  AMONG 5 SYSTEMS IS GOOD. NOT EVEN THAT, IT IS FANTASTIC. IT IS A LOT OF MONEY. ARGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH.



GAMES LIKE THE WITCHER 3 WOULDN'T EXIST WITHOUT CONSOLES, TRUE. HOWEVER, PC IS LARGE ENOUGH FOR COMPANIES TO GET A LARGE BOOST IN SALES THEY NEED NOW. FUCK.

HOLY FUCK, I AM NOT BUYING A PS4 IN 2015 NOW. AND IT IS ALL YOUR FAULT.

Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on August 12, 2015, 09:00:09 AM
Feelscaught.gif
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on August 12, 2015, 09:14:12 AM
Why do you want a ps4 anyway?

Pc is getting all the same games
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Great Rumbler on August 12, 2015, 09:22:11 AM
This thread is bad enough without Rahx and Lager setting out specifically to make it even worse.  :snoop :snoop :snoop
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Van Cruncheon on August 12, 2015, 09:56:43 AM
itt peasants
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Himu on August 12, 2015, 12:06:13 PM
Quote from: Premium Lager on August 12, 2015, 09:14:12 AM
Why do you want a ps4 anyway?

(http://i.imgur.com/HQX20n3.jpg)
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Tasty on August 12, 2015, 01:19:38 PM
Quote from: Rahxephon91 on August 11, 2015, 10:45:15 PM
Go fuck yourself you taco.

Real talk, saying this slur in this context is not OK.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Himu on August 12, 2015, 01:21:05 PM
Seriously, I have no idea why you think attacking people is going to win people to your side, Rah. No one is going to back you when you treat Andy-kun like that.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Human Snorenado on August 12, 2015, 02:46:44 PM
Yeah, andy isn't my favorite person in the world, but that's not cool.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on August 12, 2015, 05:13:56 PM
Why doesnt anyone call out myuserwhatever for his ethnic bs?
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Himu on August 12, 2015, 05:25:33 PM
Called him out the other week when he was dismissive towards racial inequality.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Kara on August 12, 2015, 05:43:36 PM
I'm more Jozef Zajczyszkiewiczkiewicz than Jozef Pilsudski.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Positive Touch on August 12, 2015, 06:43:00 PM
Quote from: Premium Lager on August 12, 2015, 05:13:56 PM
Why doesnt anyone call out myuserwhatever for his ethnic bs?
Quote from: Premium Lager on August 12, 2015, 05:13:56 PM
Why doesnt anyone call out myuserwhatever for his ethnic bs?

shut up and eat your boiled eggs
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Rahxephon91 on August 13, 2015, 01:31:39 AM
Quote from: Queen of Ice on August 12, 2015, 01:21:05 PM
Seriously, I have no idea why you think attacking people is going to win people to your side, Rah. No one is going to back you when you treat Andy-kun like that.
Don't really care.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: chronovore on August 13, 2015, 05:21:22 AM
The world must be such a scary place for you.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on August 13, 2015, 05:46:01 AM
Quote from: JayDubya on August 13, 2015, 04:44:12 AM
Quote from: Human Snorenado on August 12, 2015, 02:46:44 PM
Yeah, andy isn't my favorite person in the world, but that's not cool.

And next on tone policing by fucking psychopaths, Charles Manson talks about Helter Skelter.  Stay tuned.

 :huh
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Himu on August 13, 2015, 10:50:22 AM
Quote from: Rahxephon91 on August 13, 2015, 01:31:39 AM
Quote from: Queen of Ice on August 12, 2015, 01:21:05 PM
Seriously, I have no idea why you think attacking people is going to win people to your side, Rah. No one is going to back you when you treat Andy-kun like that.
Don't really care.

 :comeon
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: bork on August 13, 2015, 11:00:56 AM
Quote from: Rahxephon91 on August 13, 2015, 01:31:39 AM
Quote from: Queen of Ice on August 12, 2015, 01:21:05 PM
Seriously, I have no idea why you think attacking people is going to win people to your side, Rah. No one is going to back you when you treat Andy-kun like that.
Don't really care.

But he does and that's not cool.  Don't do that again.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Human Snorenado on August 13, 2015, 05:25:14 PM
Quote from: JayDubya on August 13, 2015, 04:44:12 AM
Quote from: Human Snorenado on August 12, 2015, 02:46:44 PM
Yeah, andy isn't my favorite person in the world, but that's not cool.

And next on tone policing by fucking psychopaths, Charles Manson talks about Helter Skelter.  Stay tuned.

You've got your mouth on my balls so much lately I'm shocked you don't have gold bond powder all over your face

:hitler
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: archie4208 on August 13, 2015, 08:48:58 PM
July NPD
1.) Lego: Jurassic World (360, 3DS, PS3, Xbox One, Wii U, PS4, Vita)
2.) Batman: Arkham Knight (PS4, Xbox One, PC)
3.) Minecraft (360, PS3 ,Xbox One, PS4)
4.) Grand Theft Auto V (PS4, Xbox One, 360, PS3, PC)
5.) Rory Mcilroy PGA Tour (PS4, Xbox One)
6.) The Elder Scrolls Online: Tamriel Unlimited (Xbox One, PS4, PC)
7.) Destiny (Xbox One, PS4, 360, PS3)
8.) Mortal Kombat X (PS4, Xbox One)
9.) FIFA 15 (PS4, 360, Xbox One, PS3, Wii, Vita, 3DS)
10.) Call of Duty: Advanced Warfare (PS4, Xbox One, 360, PS3, PC)
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: thisismyusername on August 13, 2015, 09:40:18 PM
:violin Splatoon :violin

You're a kid now~♪
You're a flash in the pan with a creepy pedo fanbase now~♫
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: tiesto on August 13, 2015, 11:50:23 PM
I'm actually more surprised people still give a fuck about the MK series...
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Himu on August 14, 2015, 12:18:27 AM
Mortal Kombat completely lost me with 4. :yeshrug I'd go back to MK2 and 3 but ultimately, while finding them fun, I never really have a desire to go back to MK. I recognize that 9 and 10 are good games, though. But definitely not my thing.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on August 14, 2015, 02:18:40 AM
PS4 no 1
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Trent Dole on August 14, 2015, 02:21:48 AM
Quote from: Premium Lager on August 14, 2015, 02:18:40 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QBZClr7eDHA
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: thisismyusername on August 15, 2015, 01:36:20 AM
Oscar come home.  :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :uguu
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on August 16, 2015, 04:42:06 AM
Oscar has left you hahahahahaha
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: tiesto on August 19, 2015, 02:35:19 PM
Welp, looks like no plans to release P5 on the PC. Rahx vindicated?

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1098584 (http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1098584)
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: D3RANG3D on August 19, 2015, 03:03:31 PM
Quote from: tiesto on August 19, 2015, 02:35:19 PM
Welp, looks like no plans to release P5 on the PC. Rahx vindicated?

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1098584 (http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1098584)

(http://i.imgur.com/KADRtXZ.gif)
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Human Snorenado on August 19, 2015, 03:25:55 PM
I still own a PS3 for a reason

:yeshrug
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Rahxephon91 on August 19, 2015, 03:41:30 PM
And Type 0 is apparently another crappy port.

and a few more PS4/Vita Japanese games have been announced.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: thisismyusername on August 19, 2015, 05:05:52 PM
Quote from: Human Snorenado on August 19, 2015, 03:25:55 PM
I still own a PS3 for a reason

:yeshrug

^

Also people expecting Atlus that has been merged two damn times within the past 6 or so years to have a PC version.  ::)

spoiler (click to show/hide)
What's truly bizarre is Sega not getting in on that action and taking Atlus' IP's/game's and porting it themselves.
[close]
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Take My Breh Away on August 19, 2015, 06:21:28 PM
Quote from: thisismyusername on August 19, 2015, 05:05:52 PM
Quote from: Human Snorenado on August 19, 2015, 03:25:55 PM
I still own a PS3 for a reason

:yeshrug

^

Also people expecting Atlus that has been merged two damn times within the past 6 or so years to have a PC version.  ::)

spoiler (click to show/hide)
What's truly bizarre is Sega not getting in on that action and taking Atlus' IP's/game's and porting it themselves.
[close]

I bet P5 has at least a "timed exclusive to playstation" moneyhat after the reception the announcement got. Valkyira Chronicles did so well on PC I'm surprised Sega hasn't followed it up with Skies Of Arcadia Generations HD and then the Persona games. There's an obvious market since even FF XIII did well for Square (It's FFXIII for fuck sake)

Unless Sony and Nintendo are running moneyhat interference since P5 is a pretty important exclusive to Sony and Nintendo has to promote that SMT cross over. I don't see why they haven't done even more with steam due to the success of VC.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: thisismyusername on August 19, 2015, 08:36:46 PM
Quote from: Take My Breh Away on August 19, 2015, 06:21:28 PM
Quote from: thisismyusername on August 19, 2015, 05:05:52 PM
Quote from: Human Snorenado on August 19, 2015, 03:25:55 PM
I still own a PS3 for a reason

:yeshrug

^

Also people expecting Atlus that has been merged two damn times within the past 6 or so years to have a PC version.  ::)

spoiler (click to show/hide)
What's truly bizarre is Sega not getting in on that action and taking Atlus' IP's/game's and porting it themselves.
[close]

I bet P5 has at least a "timed exclusive to playstation" moneyhat after the reception the announcement got. Valkyira Chronicles did so well on PC I'm surprised Sega hasn't followed it up with Skies Of Arcadia Generations HD and then the Persona games. There's an obvious market since even FF XIII did well for Square (It's FFXIII for fuck sake)

Unless Sony and Nintendo are running moneyhat interference since P5 is a pretty important exclusive to Sony and Nintendo has to promote that SMT cross over. I don't see why they haven't done even more with steam due to the success of VC.

It's Atlus. They've always been struggling/break-even for money with their stuff. Ever since they were bought out from Index to Sega (when Index ran into hot-water) the first thing I thought was that Sega would get their hands on Atlus' previous properties (read: SMT's) and port them and/or localize the Japanese only ones to the west for SMT fans. But, that hasn't happened in a bizzare "hands off" approach to Atlus. I guess they're worried that doing that would piss off Atlus or mess with their "mojo" to where they won't.

Meanwhile, Atlus US (which only localizes for US/Canada) has been struggling to help Atlus Japan break even with localizations to where they localize :kobeyuck -level moe pantsu shit for the past... four or so years. :holeup

I mean it's not like Sega doesn't have quality PC port houses. Their PC ports since like... what, 2006? has been quality/solid. So it would just be a matter of Atlus US and Sega US going "hey, there's demand for our/Atlus Japan properties like Catherine and SMT on PC. Sega has these port-houses that we can out-source to that would do a pretty quality job on them. We should do that" and actually convincing Atlus Japan, which has always been niche, that it's worthwhile.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on August 20, 2015, 10:40:20 AM
Type long ass posts about possible ports instead of joining the winning team brehs
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Himu on August 20, 2015, 01:14:41 PM
...we already have Ps3s, the system Persona 5 is going to be on...and since when is two paragraphs long?
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on August 20, 2015, 03:39:23 PM
Well I guess you are on the winning team
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: archie4208 on August 27, 2015, 03:05:30 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/RjVonF6.jpg)

:obama
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Great Rumbler on August 27, 2015, 04:05:18 PM
Rocket League is incredibly fun, I played it well into the night more than once at Quakecon.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: thisismyusername on August 27, 2015, 04:32:59 PM
Quote from: Premium Lager on August 20, 2015, 03:39:23 PM
Well I guess you are on the winning team

Yes, he's on PC. Thereby winning... :obama

Quote from: archie4208 on August 27, 2015, 03:05:30 PM
http://i.imgur.com/RjVonF6.jpg

:obama

... Like so (http://steamspy.com/app/252950).

You were saying?
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: VomKriege on September 03, 2015, 06:05:55 AM
GT6 sold less than 2.5m copies according to some documents used in a lawsuit (A company name appears on banners at Monza, claims it should have given proper authorization for this). The number may be not up to date but that's pretty terrible. EDIT : Source is disputed though.

People say it's because it was released on PS3 when the public attention went to PS4, and that may be true, but having followed and owned GT5:P and GT5 the truth is that this franchise has major issues. Polyphony is unable to manage the intended scope of the game or of their own schedules and promises, and they have lost a lot of prestige and goodwill by fumbling it for so long. They seriously need to refocus the design, because it seems it has become technically impossible to just be everything (everyday cars + Vision GT fantasy cars + FIA partner + rally + NASCAR + Top Gear + decent sim) with thousands of cars.

The driving itself was fine (to a layman like me) but it was hard to engage with the game.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Kara on September 04, 2015, 01:10:03 AM
I can't even remember the last entry I was excited to play and I was a dyed in the wool fanboy for it once upon a time. 3 I guess? Like a lot of Sony IPs it got dated after its breakout entry.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: brawndolicious on September 04, 2015, 07:21:57 PM
Driving games are sort of a graphics ho benchmark so a 7 year old console isn't going to sell that many copies.

I don't think any normal person cares about these games until they do something totally  newish like being the first one to have a huge car count, damage, first person camera with interior modeling, and other general shit that makes it feel like you have access to real life cars. The checklist of features expected with these games now is ridiculous. Maybe we should have more games like the Toyota Yaris game.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Take My Breh Away on September 04, 2015, 07:47:40 PM
The name alone should have sold GT 6 but I guess 5 was so foul and the reports of the monetization of the in game economy in 6 (Along with 6's general mediocrity and outright glacial pacing) killed interest. The graphics ho argument for 7 is going to be harder since there's a PC game on the market that's already bested the consoles for the generation (Project CARS on PC is a complete performance fuck up, but it looks exceptionally pretty at highest settings and insurmountable for any new racing game on consoles) so you wonder if the name has any worth or they can recover the IP.

The things I'd do for a new outrun, though :goty2
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: chronovore on September 04, 2015, 08:28:07 PM
Quote from: VomKriege on September 03, 2015, 06:05:55 AM
GT6 sold less than 2.5m copies according to some documents used in a lawsuit (A company name appears on banners at Monza, claims it should have given proper authorization for this). The number may be not up to date but that's pretty terrible. EDIT : Source is disputed though.

People say it's because it was released on PS3 when the public attention went to PS4, and that may be true, but having followed and owned GT5:P and GT5 the truth is that this franchise has major issues. Polyphony is unable to manage the intended scope of the game or of their own schedules and promises, and they have lost a lot of prestige and goodwill by fumbling it for so long. They seriously need to refocus the design, because it seems it has become technically impossible to just be everything (everyday cars + Vision GT fantasy cars + FIA partner + rally + NASCAR + Top Gear + decent sim) with thousands of cars.

The driving itself was fine (to a layman like me) but it was hard to engage with the game.
Having dipped my toes in licensing, and for a racing game at that, I can tell you it is a total mess. The idea that you have to get permission in addition to the track's just to show an advertisement, when  the advertiser paid for its placement is ridiculous.

In a sane world, the track management advertising contract includes permission for usage. However, there is no consistency in the contract from track to track. It's likely that polyphony were bit by legalese, but who knows who is even reviewing their international contracts?
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on September 04, 2015, 11:05:27 PM
Gran Turismo 5 was a really shitty game, especially when you consider how it long it took for development and how expensive the budget was.  I wouldn't be surprised if they pissed away a ton of goodwill, resulting in poor GT6 sales.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: archnemesis on September 05, 2015, 01:59:48 AM
I would have bought GT6 instantly if it was released on PS4, but I don't need another Gran Turismo for the PS3 when I already have tons of unplayed content in GT5.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: VomKriege on September 05, 2015, 03:41:27 AM
Quote from: am nintenho on September 04, 2015, 07:21:57 PM
Driving games are sort of a graphics ho benchmark so a 7 year old console isn't going to sell that many copies.

I don't think any normal person cares about these games until they do something totally  newish like being the first one to have a huge car count, damage, first person camera with interior modeling, and other general shit that makes it feel like you have access to real life cars. The checklist of features expected with these games now is ridiculous. Maybe we should have more games like the Toyota Yaris game.

Nah, GT is selling on average between 10 and 15 million copies (GT5 sold 10 + 5 for the Prologue), I think there's a real market of normal guys to back it up, although yeah I think GT is there unlike any other racing game because it covers that insane checklist you mention (esp. the access to mundane cars along dream ones) that is pulling the overall quality of the game apart.

Quote from: Take My Breh Away on September 04, 2015, 07:47:40 PM
The name alone should have sold GT 6 but I guess 5 was so foul and the reports of the monetization of the in game economy in 6 (Along with 6's general mediocrity and outright glacial pacing) killed interest. The graphics ho argument for 7 is going to be harder since there's a PC game on the market that's already bested the consoles for the generation (Project CARS on PC is a complete performance fuck up, but it looks exceptionally pretty at highest settings and insurmountable for any new racing game on consoles) so you wonder if the name has any worth or they can recover the IP.

The things I'd do for a new outrun, though :goty2

I think the GT formula has become somewhat obsolete at this point but I don't have any idea as to how they can tackle that : for all its faults, it's still a monster franchise so PD must do something right. As you say, there's a lot of competition and GT can't claim now they're the only ones to do certain things (notably in the graphics, simulation department). I suspect the online component must become the main course of the game : people shits with reason on the terrible IA, but is there really a point in improving it when it never match up to the challenge of a race with human players ? More online means also more microtransactions, no escaping that I think. It wouldn't be too farfetched that the best course of action would be to release one base GT game only for PS4, but with tons of added content on the regular and season pass... A bit what they did with the Spec thing in the past.

I think having the standard cars is a travesty but on the other hand it's very likely that's it's actually the mundane car selection that keep GT relevant to the mass public... PD has become a bit of a prisoner of its success.

Quote from: Mary Tyler Whore on September 04, 2015, 11:05:27 PM
Gran Turismo 5 was a really shitty game, especially when you consider how it long it took for development and how expensive the budget was.  I wouldn't be surprised if they pissed away a ton of goodwill, resulting in poor GT6 sales.

I think the core gameplay was sound, but yeah GT5 felt disjointed. The NASCAR, Top Gear, Karts felt like fluff and tacked on. The focus is all over the place. I think GT has definitely fallen behind in the pseudo-sim department though and it's been long overdue that they evolved beyond the weirdly arcade race organization they have where you start bottom of the grid to a real time qualifying system. Also PD needs to stop half implementing features (Inconsistent assets for car and track, a full time and weather system) while on the same making promises on stuff they end up ditching or half assing (The course maker advertised at launch is still not released for GT6  :lol ). I think the "career" grind mode needs to be streamlined, it's honestly not a lot of fun, even if I understand that you have to work a bit because being able to buy some cars.

Quote from: chronovore on September 04, 2015, 08:28:07 PM
Having dipped my toes in licensing, and for a racing game at that, I can tell you it is a total mess. The idea that you have to get permission in addition to the track's just to show an advertisement, when  the advertiser paid for its placement is ridiculous.

In a sane world, the track management advertising contract includes permission for usage. However, there is no consistency in the contract from track to track. It's likely that polyphony were bit by legalese, but who knows who is even reviewing their international contracts?

The legal stuff must be insane, considering how many pies PD has its fingers into (FIA deal, GT Academy, the whole GT Vision thing...) and I suspect the vetting for that must be really weak. Things go along fine until they don't like in this case (But I believe the plaintiff was denied by the court ?).

EDIT : Also shutting the GT5 servers  at GT6 release was a real dick move.
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Post by: Rufus on September 05, 2015, 05:13:21 AM
Quote from: chronovore on September 04, 2015, 08:28:07 PM
Quote from: VomKriege on September 03, 2015, 06:05:55 AM
GT6 sold less than 2.5m copies according to some documents used in a lawsuit (A company name appears on banners at Monza, claims it should have given proper authorization for this). The number may be not up to date but that's pretty terrible. EDIT : Source is disputed though.

People say it's because it was released on PS3 when the public attention went to PS4, and that may be true, but having followed and owned GT5:P and GT5 the truth is that this franchise has major issues. Polyphony is unable to manage the intended scope of the game or of their own schedules and promises, and they have lost a lot of prestige and goodwill by fumbling it for so long. They seriously need to refocus the design, because it seems it has become technically impossible to just be everything (everyday cars + Vision GT fantasy cars + FIA partner + rally + NASCAR + Top Gear + decent sim) with thousands of cars.

The driving itself was fine (to a layman like me) but it was hard to engage with the game.
Having dipped my toes in licensing, and for a racing game at that, I can tell you it is a total mess. The idea that you have to get permission in addition to the track's just to show an advertisement, when  the advertiser paid for its placement is ridiculous.

In a sane world, the track management advertising contract includes permission for usage. However, there is no consistency in the contract from track to track. It's likely that polyphony were bit by legalese, but who knows who is even reviewing their international contracts?
http://gamasutra.com/view/news/252841/Court_rules_for_Gran_Turismo_in_trademark_suit_cites_First_Amendment.php
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Post by: chronovore on September 05, 2015, 06:29:15 AM
Excellent. That's a dirtbag move: "my publicity rights have been violated by virtually portraying them in a place where I paid to have them featured."

Dirt.

Bag.
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Post by: Trent Dole on September 05, 2015, 02:08:25 PM
Business~
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Post by: thisismyusername on September 05, 2015, 02:54:07 PM
Quote from: Mary Tyler Whore on September 04, 2015, 11:05:27 PM
Gran Turismo 5 was a really shitty game, especially when you consider how it long it took for development and how expensive the budget was. I wouldn't be surprised if they pissed away a ton of goodwill, resulting in poor GT6 sales.

^

Top Gear Test Track doesn't even have rain, and the "out of bounds" is really limited. For something that was supposed to be the first appearance of that, you'd think they'd have utilized the Top Gear brand better. But they didn't, Forza heard the complaints got Jeremy Clarkson to even do this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzUNdXPGOf4

And in Forza 6 they're going to 3D rain physics the track. Them listening to fans of cars? Impossible with GT now a days.

"A livery editor? WHAT IS THAT!?"
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Post by: mormapope on September 05, 2015, 09:46:17 PM
Forza 4 essentially slaughtered GT when it came to console racing sim driving being fun and tuning/customization being detailed as fuck. I'd say having normal consumer cars in Forza and Gran Turismo is a huge plus and that not having those cars would be pretty dumb. Being able to take a Ford Bronco and add enough shit so it can race with supercars should sound appealing to 90% of the people that use cars or like cars in general.

Main reason why I find PC racing sims to be boring as fuck. Wow, I can drive this super duper race car against other super duper race cars, such a fantasy that is. Don't get me wrong, those cars are fun to drive, but there has to be more than just top of the line race cars.

I probably put in around 200 hours into Forza 4. Going in I would race with automatic transmission with the assists on besides the racing line. After playing it a fuck ton, I would race with manual transmission with clutch, no stability control, no anti lock braking, none of that stuff, everything off except for the rewind mode.

Eventually I would do endurance races with a friend and his coworkers where we would race in a serious fashion for 45 minutes. Strict rules would be in place like which car you could use and how much you could upgrade it. Incredibly fun, the most fun I've ever had with a racing game.
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Post by: VomKriege on September 06, 2015, 03:40:18 AM
Quote
Them listening to fans of cars? Impossible with GT now a days.
"A livery editor? WHAT IS THAT!?"

Well, PD did nab a guy from Turn 10 for the sound, so it could seem that maybe they want to adress the long held criticism in this department. The absence of a livery editor is pretty inexcusable at this point, yeah. I can buy that an extensive external damage representation does not matter that much but not being to put your personal touch to your cars is really backward.
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Post by: archie4208 on September 06, 2015, 11:21:26 AM
MGS5 shipped 3 million so far.

It has sold about 415k on PC.
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Post by: Take My Breh Away on September 06, 2015, 11:46:08 AM
Quote from: VomKriege on September 06, 2015, 03:40:18 AM
Quote
Them listening to fans of cars? Impossible with GT now a days.
"A livery editor? WHAT IS THAT!?"

Well, PD did nab a guy from Turn 10 for the sound, so it could seem that maybe they want to adress the long held criticism in this department. The absence of a livery editor is pretty inexcusable at this point, yeah. I can buy that an extensive external damage representation does not matter that much but not being to put your personal touch to your cars is really backward.

They just put up a bunch of staff recruitment notices http://www.polyphony.co.jp/recruitment/index.html

So I wonder if they are going to hold off till 2017/2018 and reboot since GT5&6 did a lot of damage.
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Post by: thisismyusername on September 06, 2015, 12:01:58 PM
Quote from: archie4208 on September 06, 2015, 11:21:26 AM
MGS5 shipped 3 million so far.

It has sold about 415k on PC.

http://steamcharts.com/app/287700

Peak's been going up and up and up. :doge
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Post by: Cerveza mas fina on September 07, 2015, 08:48:04 AM
Quote from: archie4208 on September 06, 2015, 11:21:26 AM
MGS5 shipped 3 million so far.

It has sold about 415k on PC.

Is that good?

Not sure.
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Post by: VomKriege on September 07, 2015, 09:22:24 AM
3m in a week is pretty good. If the numbers found on the net are accurate, MGS4 sold 4 to 5m and MGS3 3,6. Best selling game is 2 with over 7m copies.
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Post by: mormapope on September 07, 2015, 09:35:31 AM
MGS2 is also still the highest rated MGS game in the franchise  :rejoice
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Post by: Positive Touch on September 07, 2015, 11:05:05 PM
:smh
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Post by: Mods Help on September 07, 2015, 11:11:54 PM
Quote from: Positive Touch on September 07, 2015, 11:05:05 PM
:smh

You know you love it.

(http://i.imgur.com/vpFEZP1.jpg)
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Post by: Positive Touch on September 07, 2015, 11:14:32 PM
3's sales got hurt bad because 2 was such a shitshow
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Post by: Mods Help on September 07, 2015, 11:18:29 PM
2 doesn't have your ass in the grass at all times so of course it sold better; better game.
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Post by: mormapope on September 08, 2015, 03:31:50 PM
MGS3's sales got hurt because it came out in a year where a bajillion other great games came out. Its my favorite game that year next to GTA San Andreas, but it is what it is. MGS2 came out when the PS2 started to get heavy hitters, it was one of the games to get the console for.
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Post by: Positive Touch on September 08, 2015, 04:49:22 PM
and ALSO it's sales were hurt because of the huge backlash against mgs2. DEAL WITH IT
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Post by: Positive Touch on September 08, 2015, 04:50:19 PM
for real tho everyone hated mgs2 when it first came out. it only got a decent rep many years later
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Post by: Mods Help on September 08, 2015, 04:57:34 PM
Only haters hated MGS2 when it came out. Haters and people who can't deal with the story. The story is easy to ignore. You must be one of those people who plays Metal Gear Solid once and then drops it. That's why you hated 2. Because you were unwilling to invest in its gameplay and judged it for its story rather than that gameplay.
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Post by: mormapope on September 08, 2015, 05:02:54 PM
"Everyone" being the MGS1 fans that would've sucked Snake's dick if given the chance.

MGS2 story, storytelling, dialog, all of that is weird as fuck and I wouldn't fault someone for criticizing that stuff. But the main complaint, the only thing people cried for years and years was Raiden. Some people would not shit talk the game at all if the protagonist was Solid Snake.

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Post by: Positive Touch on September 08, 2015, 07:53:59 PM
God save these lost children, for they know not the depths of their dumbness
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Post by: mormapope on September 08, 2015, 08:09:59 PM
If you like any MGS at all, you got a little dumb in ya  :doge
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Post by: Stoney Mason on September 08, 2015, 08:13:46 PM
Quote from: Mods Help on September 08, 2015, 04:57:34 PM
Only haters hated MGS2 when it came out. Haters and people who can't deal with the story. The story is easy to ignore. You must be one of those people who plays Metal Gear Solid once and then drops it. That's why you hated 2. Because you were unwilling to invest in its gameplay and judged it for its story rather than that gameplay.

Yeah because its not like its a game that completely shoves its story down your throat.

 ::)


There are plenty of individual reasons to like or not like individual installments of the series that vary from person to person.

I can't stand 2 even though I recognize its good from a gameplay perspective especially relative to its time. Having to schlock through that story was still a painful experience for me. Although I understand completely how some people really enjoyed how batshit insane it was.
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Post by: Human Snorenado on September 08, 2015, 08:18:23 PM
During the last boss fight, I got up and made a sandwich and came back and one of those stupid, incomprehensible cutscenes was still playing. After MGS2, people who continued to make excuses for the story being anything other than the dumbest shit ever rendered into graphics instantly got moved into my "these fuckers are going into the sea" column.
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Post by: Positive Touch on September 08, 2015, 08:26:49 PM
they also like to forget that whole omg it was a trick!!! shit was the last hour of the game and before that was ten hours of nagging girlfriend and gee this guy looks and sounds exactly like solid snake i wonder who he is and rollerblading fat guys and here's how you complete every task before we give you a chance to do it

shit sucked and getting to the gameplay underneath was a pain. the rerelease with all the extra stuff outside of the campaign was the first time the game approached something good
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Post by: Stoney Mason on September 08, 2015, 08:31:15 PM
Quote from: Human Snorenado on September 08, 2015, 08:18:23 PM
During the last boss fight, I got up and made a sandwich and came back and one of those stupid, incomprehensible cutscenes was still playing. After MGS2, people who continued to make excuses for the story being anything other than the dumbest shit ever rendered into graphics instantly got moved into my "these fuckers are going into the sea" column.

Playing Metal Gear Solid 2 was alike like watching those Matrix sequels. You suddenly realized that the creator(s) thought they were a lot more clever than they actually were and it started taking the story in a direction that I didn't care about at all.

I think MGS 3 is the good kind of goofy. And MGS 2 is the bad kind.
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Post by: Rahxephon91 on September 08, 2015, 08:57:24 PM
Metal Gear Solid 2's story gets up it's own ass at some points, but it's still pretty good and interesting. I'm between 2 and 3 on which one I like more. 2 gets points because it honestly is really good and it's the first one I played, but 3 is pretty much the best game ever made with a far better story.
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Post by: Mods Help on September 08, 2015, 08:59:41 PM
MGS2 shoved its story down your throat just like 1 did. 2's story sucks. The problem I have are people saying it's a bad game because of its story when no one who claims to love MGS2 said they love it for the story.

You talk about the story, did you get stealth camo? Unlimited ammo? Did you play it on higher difficulties? Did you get the dog tags? Did you ever play Substance and play Euro Extreme? Did you ever play the VR missions? Or the missions as Snake or Ninja?

Because if what you did was play MGS2 once, and try to lay claim to having an informed opinion about the game? You don't.

At that point, you might as well play Diablo on normal for the story, beat it once, and drop it, and say,"what a bad game." Metal Gear Solid 2 is similar. Unless you did all of the above, or at least tried to, your opinion on the game cannot be taken seriously. Especially in regards to a game series that's all about replaying and unlocking new features.
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Post by: Positive Touch on September 08, 2015, 09:02:35 PM
i did everything in the game and the rerelease stop getting emotional
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Post by: Stoney Mason on September 08, 2015, 09:03:49 PM
Quote from: Mods Help on September 08, 2015, 08:59:41 PM
MGS2 shoved its story down your throat just like 1 did. 2's story sucks. The problem I have are people saying it's a bad game because of its story when no one who claims to love MGS2 said they love it for the story.

You talk about the story, did you get stealth camo? Unlimited ammo? Did you play it on higher difficulties? Did you get the dog tags? Did you ever play Substance and play Euro Extreme? Did you ever play the VR missions? Or the missions as Snake or Ninja?

Because if what you did was play MGS2 once, and try to lay claim to having an informed opinion about the game? You don't.

At that point, you might as well play Diablo on normal for the story, beat it once, and drop it, and say,"what a bad game." Metal Gear Solid 2 is similar. Unless you did all of the above, or at least tried to, your opinion on the game cannot be taken seriously. Especially in regards to a game series that's all about replaying and unlocking new features.

You care alot more than I do. I don't like it. You did. It's really that simple.
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Post by: Mods Help on September 08, 2015, 09:03:51 PM
Quote from: Positive Touch on September 08, 2015, 09:02:35 PM
i did everything in the game and the rerelease stop getting emotional

I'm not the one crying about the fact people love a game I hate. :smug

Quote from: Positive Touch on September 08, 2015, 07:53:59 PM
God save these lost children, for they know not the depths of their dumbness

Quote from: Positive Touch on September 07, 2015, 11:14:32 PM
3's sales got hurt bad because 2 was such a shitshow

Quote from: Positive Touch on September 08, 2015, 04:49:22 PM
and ALSO it's sales were hurt because of the huge backlash against mgs2. DEAL WITH IT

Quote from: Positive Touch on September 08, 2015, 04:50:19 PM
for real tho everyone hated mgs2 when it first came out. it only got a decent rep many years later

 :itagaki

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Post by: tiesto on September 08, 2015, 09:57:11 PM
2 was great at the beginning, as soon as Raiden entered the picture things got progressively dumber, with most of the puzzles a repeat of the first game's (yeah I know that's kinda the point). 3 was awesome apart from interface issues - constantly swapping camo and micromanaging your wounds was annoying. I do like the semi open, varied environments and the whole Boss thing was cool. 4 had the 2 problem - great at the beginning, delved into stupidity and waaaay too many cutscenes as you go on. I think I might like 1 the best out of all of 'em.
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Post by: Kara on September 08, 2015, 11:16:19 PM
Laugh and grow fat y'all.
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Post by: Trent Dole on September 09, 2015, 12:53:20 AM
Two was so great it killed any interest I had in future installments of the series for a very long time. I might play 3 someday since it's apparently actually really good and V sounds like an actual game and not some shitty fake wannabe movie so I may get that on a steam sale or something eventually as well. :expert
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Post by: mormapope on September 09, 2015, 01:09:02 AM
MGS3 is just as dumb as MGS2, just in different ways.

Did you know WW2 was won for allied powers because a group that consisted of:

A man that can control hornets, a 80 year old photosynthetic sniper, someone with telepathy, a dude that uses a flamethrower jetpack, and the woman commander who gave birth on D-Day?

:letsfukk



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Post by: Kara on September 09, 2015, 01:13:31 AM
Well I mean people think the American and British armies won World War II which is just as laughable. (http://i.imgur.com/1j8TccT.png)
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Post by: mormapope on September 09, 2015, 01:25:40 AM
Maybe if Germany had bee men and soldiers with telepathy, things would've gone differently.
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Post by: Cerveza mas fina on September 09, 2015, 03:43:25 AM
Quote from: Kara on September 09, 2015, 01:13:31 AM
Well I mean people think the American and British armies won World War II which is just as laughable. (http://i.imgur.com/1j8TccT.png)

This is a pet peeve of mine.

"We freed you" uuuh yeah could have nothing to do with the Eastern Front that was 6 times the size.

No one freed us :gun
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Post by: mormapope on September 09, 2015, 04:09:18 AM
Pet peeve of mine are people that deny the United States had a huge impact during and after the war.  Not saying anyone is doing that here, but Europeans get pretty cheeky with some of the shit they say.
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Post by: VomKriege on September 09, 2015, 05:36:45 AM
Quote from: mormapope on September 09, 2015, 01:09:02 AM
MGS3 is just as dumb as MGS2, just in different ways.

Did you know WW2 was won for allied powers because a group that consisted of:

A man that can control hornets, a 80 year old photosynthetic sniper, someone with telepathy, a dude that uses a flamethrower jetpack, and the woman commander who gave birth on D-Day?

:letsfukk

That's Kojima shortcomings in a nutshell. Dude just can't or won't write in his plot actual complex real situations. Which would not be a problem if at the same time he wasn't trying to say stuff about the "economy of war" or the "control of the information".
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Post by: Kara on September 09, 2015, 12:45:00 PM
Quote from: mormapope on September 09, 2015, 04:09:18 AM
Pet peeve of mine are people that deny the United States had a huge impact during and after the war.  Not saying anyone is doing that here, but Europeans get pretty cheeky with some of the shit they say.

Something obscene like 80% of the Wehrmacht's casualties were on the Eastern Front. I would never deny the matériel contributions of the U.S., but the Russian winter killed more Nazis than GIs did.

Pacific Theater is another story entirely,  obv.
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Post by: VomKriege on September 09, 2015, 01:19:34 PM
Worst debate ever. Allied effort prevailed because it was much more than the sum of its parts, kept united and achieved an efficient (at least somewhat) cooperation. Not unlike WW1.

That the eastern front saw the most massive land battles and price in blood is factual. Nothing to debate here really.
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Post by: Cerveza mas fina on September 10, 2015, 08:20:24 AM
:piss Russia :piss2
:piss Germany :piss2

:piss US and UK being allies with Russia :piss2

Poland fighting on all fronts :gun

:piss nationalism though :piss2
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Post by: mormapope on September 10, 2015, 10:16:45 AM
 :snoop
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Post by: Kara on September 10, 2015, 02:59:47 PM
Lol, if you ever find yourself bored casually talk about Western Betrayal around Poles. The fireworks rarely disappoint. Shit's like Winged Hussar cosplay on steroids. :lawd
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Post by: VomKriege on September 10, 2015, 04:28:07 PM
Well, the Poles did get fucked up pretty bad. But the sad truth is that once they were "liberated" by Socialism in one country there was nothing Western powers could have done. I hope NATO will be more a more solid protection now if push ever come to shove.
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Post by: thisismyusername on September 10, 2015, 06:17:14 PM
Take this shit to the "Poland doesn't matter for shit, Lager" thread you fucks. What the hell does any of that have to do with console's sales declining and PC sales booming?  :maf :doge
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Post by: archie4208 on September 10, 2015, 06:36:06 PM
Quote from: thisismyusername on September 10, 2015, 06:17:14 PM
Take this shit to the "Poland doesn't matter for shit, Lager" thread you fucks. What the hell does any of that have to do with console's sales declining and PC sales booming?  :maf :doge

Civ 5 has sold ~7.3 million copies. (http://steamspy.com/app/8930)   :doge
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Post by: Kara on September 10, 2015, 07:03:08 PM
Quote from: thisismyusername on September 10, 2015, 06:17:14 PM
Take this shit to the "Poland doesn't matter for shit, Lager" thread you fucks. What the hell does any of that have to do with console's sales declining and PC sales booming?  :maf :doge

The next time u forget about Poland ur going to regret this. :bolo
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Post by: Positive Touch on September 10, 2015, 07:49:21 PM
getting hepatitis c >>>> visiting talking about or thinking about Poland
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Post by: VomKriege on September 10, 2015, 08:39:11 PM
Quote from: thisismyusername on September 10, 2015, 06:17:14 PM
Take this shit to the "Poland doesn't matter for shit, Lager" thread you fucks. What the hell does any of that have to do with console's sales declining and PC sales booming?  :maf :doge

Look at it like this : Poland is Nintendo, PC masterracists are Germany and Xbox and PS4 are the Allies  :usacry .
Probably in that order ?
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Post by: Cerveza mas fina on September 11, 2015, 04:35:37 AM
If anything Poland is Sega.
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Post by: archie4208 on September 14, 2015, 10:07:21 PM
MGS5 finally got dethroned as the best selling game on Steam by Isaac Afterbirth (http://i.imgur.com/r7gQoxT.png)  (http://i.imgur.com/Hz4Ud0U.png)
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Post by: Joe Molotov on September 14, 2015, 10:42:43 PM
Quote from: archie4208 on September 14, 2015, 10:07:21 PM
MGS5 finally got dethroned as the best selling game on Steam by Isaac Afterbirth (http://i.imgur.com/r7gQoxT.png)  (http://i.imgur.com/Hz4Ud0U.png)

Preorder now for $6.66.
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Post by: Cerveza mas fina on September 15, 2015, 04:11:47 AM
Bloodborne has passed 2 million

:bow :bow2
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Post by: D3RANG3D on September 17, 2015, 12:47:08 PM
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Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Tasty on September 30, 2015, 03:39:14 PM
Splatoon has sold 681,495 copies in Japan alone and is now the fastest-selling Wii U game there, passing Mario Kart 8.
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Post by: Rahxephon91 on September 30, 2015, 03:41:19 PM
And it's a game that shipped pretty barebones and is still missing things that pretty much every other modern online game has.

And for me, it got pretty old after the initial fun of the traversal waved. Whats left is a pretty meh playing TPS.

But hey it's a Nintendo game!
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Post by: Tasty on September 30, 2015, 03:45:44 PM
http://www.nintendo.com/whatsnew/detail/vy8mvC_LJPHnlpBFTR5w-BYV1FP_m7hN

Super Mario Maker has sold 1 million units worldwide.

Quote
Today it was revealed that more than 1 million units* of Super Mario Maker have been sold around the world since its launch on Sept. 11**. The addition of 1 million new “fan” developers has led to the creation of more than 2.2 million Super Mario courses, which combined have been played nearly 75 million times.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: archie4208 on October 01, 2015, 11:49:58 AM
Steam results for September:

 Total copies sold: 70,359,628
Total copies sold excluding free weekends and free to keep deals: 28,333,095
Average price: $11.47
Average discount: 16.61%

 1.) METAL GEAR SOLID V: THE PHANTOM PAIN (691,086, LTD: 691,086, price $59.99, lowest price $50.77)
 2.) Counter-Strike: Global Offensive (488,432, LTD: 16,424,907, price $14.99, lowest price $14.99)
 3.) Mad Max (363,606, LTD: 363,606, price $59.99, lowest price $22.97)
 4.) Rocket League (255,656, LTD: 1,414,075, price $19.99, lowest price $19.99)
 5.) Left 4 Dead 2 (179,559, LTD: 13,046,655, price $19.99, lowest price $9.99)
 6.) Terraria (177,622, LTD: 6,699,031, price $9.99, lowest price $2.49)
 7.) H1Z1 (127,188, LTD: 1,779,793, price $19.99, lowest price $14.99)
 8.) Garry's Mod (124,547, LTD: 9,750,976, price $9.99, lowest price $9.99)
 9.) Chivalry: Medieval Warfare (116,491, LTD: 3,143,667, price $24.99, lowest price $4.99)
10.) Middle-earth: Shadow of Mordor (115,540, LTD: 1,433,546, price $49.99, lowest price $15.25)
11.) Call of Duty: Black Ops II (112,167, LTD: 2,602,246, price $59.99, lowest price $16.81)
12.) Borderlands 2 (110,669, LTD: 5,574,198, price $19.99, lowest price $4.99)
13.) Grand Theft Auto V (109,061, LTD: 3,020,980, price $59.99, lowest price $37.19)
14.) METAL GEAR SOLID V: GROUND ZEROES (100,929, LTD: 583,411, price $19.99, lowest price $8.00)
15.) DARK SOULS II: Scholar of the First Sin (99,333, LTD: 402,547, price $49.99, lowest price $24.99)
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on October 29, 2015, 02:55:31 AM
PS4 at 29.3 million, impressive.

Xb is like 15 million behind? Ms doesnt show numbers anymore even :)
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: archie4208 on November 11, 2015, 04:18:07 PM
https://twitter.com/Steam_Spy/status/664477601239404545

Quote
Fallout 4 had around 1.2M owners on Steam on day 1.

It will take 3 full days for my site graphs to catch up, sorry.

:omg
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: thisismyusername on November 11, 2015, 05:47:20 PM
B-B-But PS4. ::)
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: archie4208 on November 11, 2015, 05:51:38 PM
PS4 probably sold more out of the gate, but the PC version is still doing really well and will have a long tail with Steam sales and mods.

Skyrim is at like 9.5 million on PC after 4 years.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: archie4208 on November 11, 2015, 11:10:35 PM
On the other end of the spectrum, Mushihimesama hasn't even broke 10k units. (http://steamspy.com/app/377860)  :gloomy
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Kara on November 11, 2015, 11:56:28 PM
Quote from: archie4208 on November 11, 2015, 11:10:35 PM
On the other end of the spectrum, Mushihimesama hasn't even broke 10k units. (http://steamspy.com/app/377860)  :gloomy

Owners: 8,943 ± 2,378

Now that's what I call margin of error. :lol
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Trent Dole on November 12, 2015, 12:29:22 AM
Quote from: archie4208 on November 11, 2015, 11:10:35 PM
On the other end of the spectrum, Mushihimesama hasn't even broke 10k units. (http://steamspy.com/app/377860)  :gloomy
It's a port of an old ass niche game. :yeshrug
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: archnemesis on November 12, 2015, 01:01:57 AM
I will buy all Cave shoot 'em ups once they are $5 or less. $15-20 is simply too much for an old port that will last me 2-3 hours.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on November 12, 2015, 03:09:51 AM
Quote from: archie4208 on November 11, 2015, 05:51:38 PM
PS4 probably sold more out of the gate, but the PC version is still doing really well and will have a long tail with Steam sales and mods.

Skyrim is at like 9.5 million on PC after 4 years.

I'm one of those Skyrim victims, damn that game was boring.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: tiesto on November 12, 2015, 09:30:40 AM
Quote from: archie4208 on November 11, 2015, 11:10:35 PM
On the other end of the spectrum, Mushihimesama hasn't even broke 10k units. (http://steamspy.com/app/377860)  :gloomy

Looks like Rahx was right... Steam ain't the panacea for niche Japanese games like everyone thinks it is. TITS 2 also didn't do so hot :(
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Positive Touch on November 12, 2015, 09:52:34 AM
I mean it's not gonna magically make games no one gives a shit about successful, but it's still a good way to being in money if your game isn't allowed on a console. and there are certain franchises/genres that'll do good enough numbers that it'd be stupid for pubs to ignore it.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Mods Help on November 12, 2015, 09:54:44 AM
Quote from: tiesto on November 12, 2015, 09:30:40 AM
Quote from: archie4208 on November 11, 2015, 11:10:35 PM
On the other end of the spectrum, Mushihimesama hasn't even broke 10k units. (http://steamspy.com/app/377860)  :gloomy

Looks like Rahx was right... Steam ain't the panacea for niche Japanese games like everyone thinks it is. TITS 2 also didn't do so hot :(

Pretty bad logic.

Game that wasn't sent to the press for review, wasn't on streams, came out in an almost stealth release, zero marketing bombs.

Let's blame Steam and say it's not a panacea to niche games when that's the least of that games problems.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Am_I_Anonymous on November 12, 2015, 10:15:25 AM
Quote from: Premium Lager on November 12, 2015, 03:09:51 AM
Quote from: archie4208 on November 11, 2015, 05:51:38 PM
PS4 probably sold more out of the gate, but the PC version is still doing really well and will have a long tail with Steam sales and mods.

Skyrim is at like 9.5 million on PC after 4 years.

I'm one of those Skyrim victims, damn that game was boring.

I agree. Played it once for about an hour and never played it again. Garbage.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Rufus on November 12, 2015, 10:21:52 AM
Quote from: tiesto on November 12, 2015, 09:30:40 AM
Quote from: archie4208 on November 11, 2015, 11:10:35 PM
On the other end of the spectrum, Mushihimesama hasn't even broke 10k units. (http://steamspy.com/app/377860)  :gloomy

Looks like Rahx was right... Steam ain't the panacea for niche Japanese games like everyone thinks it is. TITS 2 also didn't do so hot :(
Steam hasn't been the saviour for a long time. It used to be that merely getting on Steam meant financial success for an indie game. Now the flood gates have been opened pretty much every game that isn't exclusive to a platform (or gigantic enough to be its own platform) is also on Steam. There's only so much gravy to go around.

Cave tried and failed (?) to go mobile, too. The genre is probably just 'dead', with Cave being the last notable dev left alive. Other games occupy people's time and money now.

I also heard more about TITS2's herculean localization effort than I did about the game.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: D3RANG3D on November 12, 2015, 11:36:24 AM
Niche releases on steam save me from buying/importing overpriced console versions.  :expert :gaben

Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: VomKriege on November 12, 2015, 01:00:14 PM
Gonna have to agree with Mods Help here. Steam is just a retail and distribution store. One that made it much easier for smaller games to exist on the whole but that does not (and how could it ?) insulate from competition and marketing.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Rise on November 12, 2015, 04:23:05 PM
Quote from: archie4208 on November 11, 2015, 11:10:35 PM
On the other end of the spectrum, Mushihimesama hasn't even broke 10k units. (http://steamspy.com/app/377860)  :gloomy
the genre is dead. selling full-priced console releases to the few people who actually care about these games was probably the smartest thing cave did last gen, even if the armchair marketing experts on GAF pretended otherwise. for reference, mushi 360 sold 5.1K units in the first week at full price in japan.

at least the "steam will save cave!!" meme is finally dead. also, I don't agree with saying this game had no marketing or was a stealth release. there was a bunch of "cave on steam" hype in August and they even made a new website, promoted it on social media, etc. it's about as good as it gets for niche games and it still bombed.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Trent Dole on November 12, 2015, 06:51:22 PM
Nicca it's steam, everybody knows to wait for the sales. Also this is a port of some old shit so I'd wager a good portion of the more rabid mofos out there already have this game. I'll do it for like $5 in six months or whatever, not gonna miss anything by waiting a bit more on playing something that's already old as fuck.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: brob on November 12, 2015, 06:54:48 PM
With steam they get a bigger cut of the $$ so maybe it still works out at a profit. Or at least enough to port some more of the old games. I would like to see Guwange, though that one is maybe a bit unlikely to be prioritized. u_u
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: archie4208 on November 12, 2015, 07:04:15 PM
October NPD:

 1.) Halo 5: Guardians (XBO)
2.) NBA 2K16 (PS4, XBO, 360, PS3) [Note: Second Month]
3.) Assassin's Creed: Syndicate (PS4, XBO)
4.) Madden NFL 16 (PS4, XBO, 360, PS3)
5.) WWE 2K16 (PS4, XBO, 360, PS3)
6.) FIFA 16 (PS4, XBO, 360, PS3)
7.) Destiny: The Taken King (PS4, XBO, 360, PS3)
8.) Yoshi's Wooly World (NWU)
9.) Uncharted: The Nathan Drake Collection (PS4)
10.) Rock Band 4 (XBO, PS4)
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Rise on November 12, 2015, 08:07:12 PM
Quote from: brob on November 12, 2015, 06:54:48 PM
With steam they get a bigger cut of the $$ so maybe it still works out at a profit. Or at least enough to port some more of the old games. I would like to see Guwange, though that one is maybe a bit unlikely to be prioritized. u_u
guwange isn't impossible. it came out on 360 so they'll probably just port that.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Take My Breh Away on November 12, 2015, 08:16:24 PM
Quote from: archie4208 on November 12, 2015, 07:04:15 PM
October NPD:

 1.) Halo 5: Guardians (XBO)
2.) NBA 2K16 (PS4, XBO, 360, PS3) [Note: Second Month]
3.) Assassin's Creed: Syndicate (PS4, XBO)
4.) Madden NFL 16 (PS4, XBO, 360, PS3)
5.) WWE 2K16 (PS4, XBO, 360, PS3)
6.) FIFA 16 (PS4, XBO, 360, PS3)
7.) Destiny: The Taken King (PS4, XBO, 360, PS3)
8.) Yoshi's Wooly World (NWU)
9.) Uncharted: The Nathan Drake Collection (PS4)
10.) Rock Band 4 (XBO, PS4)

Xbone took consoles as well.

Uncharted Collection doing so bad probably means that every "Remaster" set to release post Gravity Rush will probably taken out back and shot. Minecraft finally ending its reign of terror is interesting, though.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on November 13, 2015, 02:56:20 AM
Man xbox cant even close gap with halo

xbox is done

Good numbers for Uncharted Remaster
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on November 13, 2015, 03:01:25 AM
Damn Halo under 1 million? Series gonna be put out to pasture

 :lol
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: mormapope on November 13, 2015, 03:03:37 AM
 :drake
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on November 13, 2015, 03:09:05 AM
Halo 3 did 3.3 million in 5 days to a similar install base

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CTrF2dWWEAEpGVC.jpg)
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Trent Dole on November 13, 2015, 04:08:42 AM
Yes, Halo sales are almost as terrible as your posting.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: headwalk on November 13, 2015, 04:24:59 AM
new halo bombs. ps4 bombs in october after a price cut.

the whole ship is going down and they're still fighting over the best table for dinner.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on November 13, 2015, 06:01:36 AM
Quote from: Trent Dole on November 13, 2015, 04:08:42 AM
Yes, Halo sales are almost as terrible as your posting.

 :brazilcry
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: VomKriege on November 13, 2015, 06:20:03 AM
Quote from: Premium Lager on November 13, 2015, 03:09:05 AM
Halo 3 did 3.3 million in 5 days to a similar install base

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CTrF2dWWEAEpGVC.jpg)

Not according to that graph.
"Physical sales only, one week period for Halo 5, two weeks for Halo 3, three weeks for every other title"

 :noooo
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: archnemesis on November 13, 2015, 06:53:39 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/3PTMZhz.png)

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=185308652&postcount=2812
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: archie4208 on November 13, 2015, 07:49:00 AM
http://steamspy.com/app/377860

Mushihimesama hit 12k units. 

We're (hopefully) gonna make it bois.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Tasty on November 13, 2015, 11:14:18 AM
Yoshi outselling Uncharted :neogaf
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: archie4208 on November 13, 2015, 11:16:13 AM
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=185328740&postcount=853

Degica seems happy.

We did it Reddit!

Quote from: Tasty Meat on November 13, 2015, 11:14:18 AM
Yoshi outselling Uncharted :neogaf

Yoshi is pretty darn good.  :uguu

Although I hate when I'm at 19/20 stickers at the end of a stage.  :maf
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Tasty on November 15, 2015, 10:38:00 PM
Guess JP sales came out, and... :doge

(http://i.imgur.com/vIeA9eM.png)
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: archie4208 on November 15, 2015, 10:49:15 PM
No wonder DQH is coming to PC.

NIS needs to also taste that sweet Steam sale money.  :gaben
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: BrokenVerses on November 15, 2015, 10:54:27 PM
Well the new Tomb Raider bombed.

I liked TR2013. Goddamn SquareEnix for their incompetence.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Positive Touch on November 15, 2015, 10:58:45 PM
square Enix sent out approximately 10000 emails begging people to buy the collector's edition. when you can't even sell off 5000 copies of ce you know you've got a real bomb on your hands. of course, everyone should have expected this.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: benjipwns on November 15, 2015, 11:01:08 PM
To be fair, it's only released on half its intended platforms. Most true gamers are probably waiting for the PS4 version next fall.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Great Rumbler on November 15, 2015, 11:02:22 PM
Not only did they launch on exactly ONE console [the less popular one, at that], but they also released it against friggin' Fallout 4.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: thisismyusername on November 15, 2015, 11:11:46 PM
Quote from: archie4208 on November 15, 2015, 10:49:15 PM
NIS needs to also taste that sweet Steam sale money.  :gaben

Been saying that for a while. Too bad they'll be dead before they listen. Disgaea PC. :violin

Quote from: BrokenVerses on November 15, 2015, 10:54:27 PM
Well the new Tomb Raider bombed.

> 2015
> Console exclusive

What did Square-Enix expect? You can't make a multi-platform title into an exclusive and expect people to follow. You just can't. It'll make the sales back when the other versions release, but they better hope MS doesn't ask for their money back with the next outing.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: benjipwns on November 15, 2015, 11:15:39 PM
Quote from: Great Rumbler on November 15, 2015, 11:02:22 PM
Not only did they launch on exactly ONE console [the less popular one, at that], but they also released it against friggin' Fallout 4.
And Black Ops III essentially.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Tasty on November 15, 2015, 11:21:55 PM
Apologies, those tweets were NPD.

Disgaea 5: 26k
Dragon Quest Heroes: 31k
Chibi-Robo! Zip Lash: 35k

(http://i.imgur.com/mUydYmp.png)
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Joe Molotov on November 15, 2015, 11:29:30 PM
Quote from: BrokenVerses on November 15, 2015, 10:54:27 PM
Well the new Tomb Raider bombed.

I liked TR2013. Goddamn SquareEnix for their incompetence.

Xbone exclusive on the same day as Fallout 4. Good plan.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: suppadoopa on November 16, 2015, 12:12:19 AM
Squeenix got their dinero at the end of the day so it isn't a total loss for them
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Trent Dole on November 16, 2015, 02:43:51 AM
Quote from: Tasty Meat on November 15, 2015, 11:21:55 PM
Apologies, those tweets were NPD.

Disgaea 5: 26k
Dragon Quest Heroes: 31k
Chibi-Robo! Zip Lash: 35k

(http://i.imgur.com/mUydYmp.png)
Well DQH is a goofy spinoff and not a mainline DQ game really so this doesn't seem that lamentable tbh. Just means people picked Chibi over Musou, which is fine when you consider there's a new Musou like every other month and Chibi don't happen that often.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on November 16, 2015, 03:37:38 AM
Shame Tomb Raider bombed, the first one was really good. But what were they expecting really.

Will buy definitive edition on PS4 next year with all the dlc.

Quote from: suppadoopa on November 16, 2015, 12:12:19 AM
Squeenix got their dinero at the end of the day so it isn't a total loss for them

I doubt it that's how they feel.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Take My Breh Away on November 16, 2015, 08:35:59 AM
Quote from: Tasty Meat on November 15, 2015, 11:21:55 PM
Apologies, those tweets were NPD.

Disgaea 5: 26k
Dragon Quest Heroes: 31k
Chibi-Robo! Zip Lash: 35k

(http://i.imgur.com/mUydYmp.png)

That Dragon Quest Heroes ad suddenly appearing on Steam makes so much sense now

Every 3rd party exclusive on console is going to have to come with a "Must also release on the PC at the same time" clause as long as gaming exists because holy shit exclusives are doing awful. Even with Halo 5's lack of performance compared to the others, it's still the top selling exclusive of the year and outsold Bloodborne and Splatoon's opening months twice over. And that's not a good thing.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: thisismyusername on November 16, 2015, 11:24:51 AM
Bloodbourne bombed?

In any case, it and Tomb Raider are more saying: "You can't make a former multiplatform series/IP into an exclusive IP/series." People simply will not jump over to another platform from the one they played the series on just to continue to play that series.

I have a feeling Street Fighter 5 may have weaker than average sales, but I'm sure I'll probably be proven wrong since 1) most of the hardcore has gone PS4 so that works in Sony's "exclusive" favor and 2) PC is day and date with the PS4 version so even then people can still get the next one if they have a capable PC.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: mormapope on November 16, 2015, 11:47:47 AM
Street Fighter V will do fine/well on the PS4. I don't believe for a second though that it'll remain exclusive to PS4 for the entire generation. Arcade Edition was slated as the final version of SF4. Three years later, Ultra was released. Capcom feels reactionary when it comes to these things. Same deal with Resident Evil 4, and a lot of other games during that gen.

Plus, whose to say that denying a Xbone version will ever exist isn't part of the deal or contract Sony has with Capcom?
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Mods Help on November 16, 2015, 12:09:59 PM
LOL.

Stop being naive.

SFV xbone won't happen because SFV allows you to fight people across platforms.

This means:

1. Sony has a deal set up that allows you to fight people on the PC platform while also on the PS4 platform and vice versa so long as it's not on MS' console.

or

2. The more likely reason, MS doesn't want people to play people across platforms, period. There's a reason FFXIV, the hugely successful MMO, isn't on Xbone yet. I'll let you figure out as to why. (http://www.destructoid.com/final-fantasy-xiv-could-come-to-the-xbox-one-if-microsoft-cooperates-276486.phtml)

More than likely, SFV not coming for Xbox has nothing to do with Capcom. Being Capcom, I'm sure they'd love it on the system. If anyone is to prevent it coming to Xbox, it's MS.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Mods Help on November 16, 2015, 12:14:28 PM
Also, technically, DQH isn't a ps4 exclusive.

In Japan it's ps3/ps4. I've got a ps3 import version of it sitting right here.

Guess who dropped the PS3 version from western release. :doge

Guess who's a big DQ fan and Musou fan but doesn't have a ps4. :doge

Guess what system most DQ fans I know have and which one they don't? :doge

Guess which company is fucking stupid? :doge
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: mormapope on November 16, 2015, 12:36:02 PM
http://www.gamespot.com/articles/xbox-will-never-get-a-version-of-street-fighter-5-/1100-6427987/

The amount of pussyfooting when it comes to a clear answer means its more than Microsoft not wanting cross platform play.

Plus, remember Hadouken Cabs? This was released in 2013, in November, during or before these consoles launched:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lIxFeq_OvkE

And then you have this:
https://twitter.com/Yoshi_OnoChin/status/356859689188868098

Am I naive for thinking Sony offered cash to Capcom for SFV's development in exchange for PS4's to be the main platform for SF4 at all major tournaments for its final dominant year(minus EVO due to the PS4 version not being fixed yet), and for Sony's name to pop up in almost every major tournament stream?

Seems like you haven't kept up at all. You called me out on not having Shenmue knowledge, looks like you haven't kept up with Street Fighter V at all.
 :letsfukk
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Mods Help on November 16, 2015, 12:41:13 PM
I'm aware of all of that and I have kept up with SFV. All you're speaking is conjecture. However, there's very reasonable data that suggests it's Microsoft. There's a precedent, after all.

Ono being a troll doesn't mean he's ALWAYS a troll, though. Him saying they're not working on SFV doesn't really mean that is a confirmation it's coming to Xbone. Come on, now. What kind of logic is that?

Also, you underestimate Microsoft's "my way or the highway" deals. This is MS we are talking about. You can make the assumption that Sony paid a deal. After all, they're publishing.

But doubting it's not coming to Xbone because of MS  when MS has a history of "our house, our rules" is pretty :neogaf

Also, I never discounted that Sony paid a deal and that's the reason. It is, after all, the first point I listed. Seems you're trying to school me on SFV without having read a word I said.  :doge
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: mormapope on November 16, 2015, 12:48:39 PM
Also, thinking about it, cross platform play for something like Final Fantasy 14 is a lot more important than for something like an FPS, or fighting game. The population of an MMO is important as fuck, not many players want to explore and do quests in areas that are empty and only filled with NPCs and enemies. The amount of players in a self contained Xbone port would be low, making the game world suffer, so unless cross platform play was in, it wouldn't be financially smart for Square Enix to port it.

Microsoft saying no because of the cross platform shit is dumb. But a fighting game will not live or die based on cross platform play. All the versions of SFIV have players amongst themselves and they all have big enough communities to survive. Killer Instinct would do fine on PS4, Street Fighter V would be financially worth it for it to have its own contained playerbase.

EDIT: I read what you said, you said the more likely reason was because of cross platform play. To me that's a lot less likely because Capcom would have to do a port regardless, so tinkering with matchmaking or online play a bit would not be out of the question.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: mormapope on November 16, 2015, 12:59:06 PM
What makes more sense financially?

Situation A


Capcom originally wants to make SFV a multi console game. Microsoft doesn't want cross platform play. Capcom decides to not do a SFV port, and then somehow is able to get money from Sony, even though altering the game just a bit and porting to the Xbone would probably make just as much or more money.

Situation B

Capcom wants to make SFV, they decide that development is risky financially at this point in time. They ask Microsoft if they want Street Fighter V, they say no due to other investments. They ask Sony if they want Street Fighter V, they say yes and will help fund development in exchange for some sort of exclusivity, SFIV gets a PS4 port, which both companies will pay for, and Sony gets their brand in Capcom hosted tournaments.

And if the scenario was truly Situation A, I'd say Capcom is just as dumb as Microsoft for not making a simple compromise to make money.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: archie4208 on November 16, 2015, 01:02:50 PM
Speak of the devil. (http://store.steampowered.com/app/405900/?snr=1_7_7_comingsoon_150_6)

(Why Disgaea 1?  :yuck)
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Mods Help on November 16, 2015, 01:05:35 PM
In order for your argument to have merit, we need to establish high profile games that allow cross platform across PS and Xbox and PC ecosystems. Cross platform games between Xbone, PC, and PS4:

Farming Simulator
The Golf Club

Those are the main games that allow it.

The Division was originally supposed to allow cross platform. But the developers backtracked and it doesn't anymore.

You are highly underrating cross platform, I think.

Name a single cross platform high profile game that allows you to play on the big three between platforms: PC, PS, and Xbox besides obvious stuff like FFXIV (which funnily enough, came out when MS was willing to find Japanese exclusives for their 360 platform). Now that MS is the runner up in the race they have zero reason to give Sony any rope.

We are not at the point where cross platform between all of the big three is a thing yet.

But maybe it is Sony's deal after all. Who knows? We don't know. All we can do is guess, but you shouldn't underestimate MS' willingness to be petty as fuck. That's kind of their thing.

Also, PSN is designed to allow this. Xbox Live, not so much.

More than likely, given all evidence, it's probably both: Capcom wanted cross platform across all platforms for SFV. MS said no. Sony paid exclusivity then. The real question is whether or not it'll eventually come to Xbone. I really, really doubt it. This doesn't seem like a Tomb Raider situation.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: mormapope on November 16, 2015, 01:13:32 PM
Microsoft is petty, but compromises are usually made if you're confident you'll get sales on a platform. Capcom made a lot of mistakes from 2011-2013, their confidence was probably shot.

Its all guessing in the end though, you're right.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Mods Help on November 16, 2015, 01:19:13 PM
The reason I don't think it'll come to Xbone is because, hey, if it was a regular Sony exclusive, it'd be obvious that it's typical Capcom FUD and that it's coming to Xbone eventually.

But this isn't the case: cross platform changes ALL the variables. Since you can play SFV between PC and PS4 right now, if it came to XB1 there would be a natural assumption that it'd have support as well and it likely wouldn't because of all of the reasons above.

This gives Capcom two options:

1. Release it on Xbone even without cross platform support. I have friends buying a ps4 for SFV who previously were Xb1 exclusive. The cross platform is a huge deal too. I'm buying a PS4 for SFV myself. Let's say Capcom releases it on XB1 later without cross play. Who's going to buy it? Most people who want it will have already migrated because being a multiplatform game with a highly dedicated fanbase, it doesn't have the problem other exclusives do. Further, sales may be lower specifically because XB1 version doesn't allow cross play, and it'll be seen as the gimped version. I haven't even gotten into the fact that hardware like sticks and fight pads generally support PS hardware (PS3/PS4) and PC but not Xbox 1.

2. Not release an Xbone version period.

But I've been wrong before and I'll be wrong again. It's what I think, though.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: mormapope on November 16, 2015, 01:22:41 PM
We'll both be wrong when Street Fighter Alpha 4 gets released as a Xbone exclusive.
:phil
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Great Rumbler on November 16, 2015, 01:24:50 PM
Quote from: archie4208 on November 16, 2015, 01:02:50 PM
Speak of the devil. (http://store.steampowered.com/app/405900/?snr=1_7_7_comingsoon_150_6)

(Why Disgaea 1?  :yuck)

They'll probably release them all eventually.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Mods Help on November 16, 2015, 01:26:38 PM
Quote from: mormapope on November 16, 2015, 01:22:41 PM
We'll both be wrong when Street Fighter Alpha 4 gets released as a Xbone exclusive.
:phil

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LtXRtHPf7uM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wf20vlxkRzU

:noah

Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Rahxephon91 on November 16, 2015, 02:14:26 PM
Quote from: Mods Help on November 16, 2015, 12:14:28 PM
Also, technically, DQH isn't a ps4 exclusive.

In Japan it's ps3/ps4. I've got a ps3 import version of it sitting right here.

Guess who dropped the PS3 version from western release. :doge

Guess who's a big DQ fan and Musou fan but doesn't have a ps4. :doge

Guess what system most DQ fans I know have and which one they don't? :doge

Guess which company is fucking stupid? :doge
Or maybe the game just wasn't going to sell? Not bringing the PS3 version wasn't dumb. Cross platform games haven't been selling at all on the Last gen systems and most retailers only cary the Next gem version.

So what would be the point of bringing the PS3 version? Have it sell even less? That's stupid.

This is almost as bad as "well I get it digital so plenty of people must".

I mean I'm pretty sure the PS4 version of Zesteria sold moe then he PS3 version.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Take My Breh Away on November 16, 2015, 02:50:44 PM
Quote from: thisismyusername on November 16, 2015, 11:24:51 AM
Bloodbourne bombed?

In any case, it and Tomb Raider are more saying: "You can't make a former multiplatform series/IP into an exclusive IP/series." People simply will not jump over to another platform from the one they played the series on just to continue to play that series.

I have a feeling Street Fighter 5 may have weaker than average sales, but I'm sure I'll probably be proven wrong since 1) most of the hardcore has gone PS4 so that works in Sony's "exclusive" favor and 2) PC is day and date with the PS4 version so even then people can still get the next one if they have a capable PC.

Bloodborne sold over time and hit 2 million so it wasn't a total bomb but it took months to reach the 2 million mark in September and Sony ran a lot of PR spin about "Being pleased with its results" around NPD time because it didn't really do a lot. Even Evolve had a better debut month. For a big AAA "system seller" it had really lethargic sales and a bad attach rate by the metric that people seem to be measuring a system seller exclusive. It didn't bomb but it wasn't exactly the roaring success PR makes it out to be. 

Also whodat pls. MS has already said they were offered SF V and turned it down to back their own horse. Capcom took the money hat from Sony and Sony PR waved some bullshit about "We really wanted cross play to not divide the community and mean ol' MS said no" to try avoid the same Tomb Raider shitpile, even though MS announced Cross Play between PC/Xbone was coming with Windows 10 only two weeks later after SF V announced (Man Sony has either good PR or fan-people who literally can't think for themselves and know when they are getting played by PR). Neither MS or Sony has any incentive to offer cross play between consoles and especially since PSN is currently a trainwreck you pay to participate in. Like hell Sony would say "You can play on our creaky ol' Network or our competitors shiny stable network". Till there's an actual monetary incentive to allow cross platform across everything. No console company is going to allow it unless it's in their ecosystem. SF V was a completely money driven decision and not "For the good of the community". It's just being spun about the "Community" by the PR people. And people believe it every time   
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Mods Help on November 16, 2015, 02:52:26 PM
Quote from: Rahxephon91 on November 16, 2015, 02:14:26 PM
Quote from: Mods Help on November 16, 2015, 12:14:28 PM
Also, technically, DQH isn't a ps4 exclusive.

In Japan it's ps3/ps4. I've got a ps3 import version of it sitting right here.

Guess who dropped the PS3 version from western release. :doge

Guess who's a big DQ fan and Musou fan but doesn't have a ps4. :doge

Guess what system most DQ fans I know have and which one they don't? :doge

Guess which company is fucking stupid? :doge
Or maybe the game just wasn't going to sell? Not bringing the PS3 version wasn't dumb. Cross platform games haven't been selling at all on the Last gen systems and most retailers only cary the Next gem version.

So what would be the point of bringing the PS3 version? Have it sell even less? That's stupid.

This is almost as bad as "well I get it digital so plenty of people must".

I mean I'm pretty sure the PS4 version of Zesteria sold moe then he PS3 version.

Don't make the assumption that I thought the game would sell. It'd bomb either way. It's Dragon Quest, a niche jrpg in the west, tied with Musou, a niche beat em up series in the west. Musou games do well purely due to what property they're attached to in the west. Zelda Musou does pretty solid in the west because it's fucking Zelda. Fist of the North Star did pretty bad because Fist doesn't have a terribly dedicated audience in the west despite the memes and its cult status. Gundam Musou did pretty alright, because Gundam/mecha fans in America are fairly dedicated to the property. Samurai Warriors does okay but no one really knows who those people outside of Japanese history nerds. People mostly buy it because SAMURAI'S wielding fucking lightsabers. VWOOM VWOOM VWOOM. Dynasty Warriors does good because it's the flagship even if western knowledge of the Four Great Masterpieces is zero.

So yeah, it was always going to bomb.

But putting it only on PS4 is doing itself no favors. A downloadable version should have been available for PS3. Might be a risk, but I'm sure they would have sold more.

Now Final Fantasy Musou. If (when) it happens, assuming the western collaboration with Omega Force is a dud, I fully expect that to be the best selling recent Warriors game in the west ever.

I think a Steam release of DQH would really only slightly help, but not by much because there aren't any DQ games on Steam and the audience doesn't know what the fuck it is.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Rahxephon91 on November 16, 2015, 03:12:46 PM
Seeing as how digital sales of games on consoles apprantly account for maybe 20-30% I doubt that would have sold better than the PS4 version. So no there's no point to bringing out a PS3 version of any Japanese game now. The last gem versions of games increasingly sell less and less, even in Japan. The numbers show that.

And nothing was gained by being on PS4? Well an actual market push for one. I'm not sure what Squares objective or expectations were but being on PS4 or any current platform allowed some actual attention/relevance. If it was just a PS3 game say it would be another low profile release. A PS4 release allowed for some attention and probably greater distribution. It's a shame it didn't amount to much but I also very much doubt also having the PS3 release would have done much. I don't know the numbers for say Tales of Zesteria which is the closest comparison but I'm sure the PS4 version easily outsold it and it's also the only version you can find in your local target or Walmart.

Seeing as how they clearly didn't cheapen out on the actual localization I'm not sure it would also be worth spending money localizing both versions when one will probably sell far lower.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Mods Help on November 16, 2015, 03:13:43 PM
I don't think there's nothing gained by being on ps4, but not everyone has a ps4 yet and is a Japanese game fan. That's all I'm saying.

I wonder how much Tales of Zestiria sold on PS3.

Show me some recent ps3 numbers of notable games, please?
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Tasty on November 16, 2015, 03:42:26 PM
Too much words, not enough :doge
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Trent Dole on November 16, 2015, 04:36:44 PM
Quote from: Tasty Meat on November 16, 2015, 03:42:26 PM
Too much words, not enough :doge
                          /
(http://i.imgur.com/sHDdc9L.png)
:teehee

Not doing a Dl version on PS3 does feel kind of weird/pointless to me. Trying to nudge the Musou heads in the west over to the 4 maybe and not taking that huge a hit sales wise cause those games ain't that big over here to begin with? Who knows.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Rise on November 16, 2015, 04:46:35 PM
Quote from: Mods Help on November 16, 2015, 03:13:43 PM
Show me some recent ps3 numbers of notable games, please?
I think the most recent thing that there's numbers for is MGSV. PS3 version was like 5% of total sales. Cross gen is dead outside of Japan, there's a reason they didn't localize the PS3 version. They dropped the PS3 version of that Gust game too for localization.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: benjipwns on November 16, 2015, 05:32:12 PM
Quote from: mormapope on November 16, 2015, 01:22:41 PM
We'll both be wrong when Street Fighter Alpha 4 gets released as a Xbone exclusive.
:phil
World Tour mode plz

GBA version of Alpha 3's greatest flaw. :'(
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: thisismyusername on November 16, 2015, 11:19:57 PM
Quote from: benjipwns on November 16, 2015, 05:32:12 PM
Quote from: mormapope on November 16, 2015, 01:22:41 PM
We'll both be wrong when Street Fighter Alpha 4 gets released as a Xbone exclusive.
:phil
World Tour mode plz

GBA version of Alpha 3's greatest flaw. :'(

Emulate the PSP version on PPSSPP. :phil

Quote from: Take My Breh Away on November 16, 2015, 02:50:44 PM
Quote from: thisismyusername on November 16, 2015, 11:24:51 AM
Bloodbourne bombed?

In any case, it and Tomb Raider are more saying: "You can't make a former multiplatform series/IP into an exclusive IP/series." People simply will not jump over to another platform from the one they played the series on just to continue to play that series.

I have a feeling Street Fighter 5 may have weaker than average sales, but I'm sure I'll probably be proven wrong since 1) most of the hardcore has gone PS4 so that works in Sony's "exclusive" favor and 2) PC is day and date with the PS4 version so even then people can still get the next one if they have a capable PC.

Bloodborne sold over time and hit 2 million so it wasn't a total bomb but it took months to reach the 2 million mark in September and Sony ran a lot of PR spin about "Being pleased with its results" around NPD time because it didn't really do a lot. Even Evolve had a better debut month. For a big AAA "system seller" it had really lethargic sales and a bad attach rate by the metric that people seem to be measuring a system seller exclusive. It didn't bomb but it wasn't exactly the roaring success PR makes it out to be. 

Also whodat pls. MS has already said they were offered SF V and turned it down to back their own horse. Capcom took the money hat from Sony and Sony PR waved some bullshit about "We really wanted cross play to not divide the community and mean ol' MS said no" to try avoid the same Tomb Raider shitpile, even though MS announced Cross Play between PC/Xbone was coming with Windows 10 only two weeks later after SF V announced (Man Sony has either good PR or fan-people who literally can't think for themselves and know when they are getting played by PR). Neither MS or Sony has any incentive to offer cross play between consoles and especially since PSN is currently a trainwreck you pay to participate in. Like hell Sony would say "You can play on our creaky ol' Network or our competitors shiny stable network". Till there's an actual monetary incentive to allow cross platform across everything. No console company is going to allow it unless it's in their ecosystem. SF V was a completely money driven decision and not "For the good of the community". It's just being spun about the "Community" by the PR people. And people believe it every time   

I dunno. MS's policies are shaky as fuck. "Day one on X-box and not on Playstation" for indies, for instance. It's just as bad as Sony's "no remakes unless they add something new" policy during the PSX era.

FF14 didn't happen because MS doesn't like "opening" their network up for other platforms to merge with. Simple as that. Double so when FF11 probably didn't set the world on fire since everyone playing that was either 1) on PS2 (RIP support for that next year) and 2) on PC. So their attempt to courting Japanese developers on 360 failed and they can't give a fuck since the 11 subs didn't come to the 360 from PS2.

Also you're forgetting that Portal 2 did cross-play and Rocket League does it as well. Sony allows people to open their network up while MS doesn't. MS is only doing it so Killer Instinct will actually have an "active playerbase" if PC users don't take to it (probably going to be MS store exclusive on Windows. :yuck ) so stragglers that ARE on PC will have a playerbase.

But other titles? I extremely doubt they'll allow cross-play, but who knows.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Tasty on November 17, 2015, 12:21:52 AM
Quote from: Trent Dole on November 16, 2015, 04:36:44 PM
Quote from: Tasty Meat on November 16, 2015, 03:42:26 PM
Too much words, not enough :doge
                          /
(http://i.imgur.com/sHDdc9L.png)
:teehee

This is my favorite thing ever. :lol
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Take My Breh Away on November 18, 2015, 05:11:44 PM
Quote from: thisismyusername on November 16, 2015, 11:19:57 PM
Quote from: benjipwns on November 16, 2015, 05:32:12 PM
Quote from: mormapope on November 16, 2015, 01:22:41 PM
We'll both be wrong when Street Fighter Alpha 4 gets released as a Xbone exclusive.
:phil
World Tour mode plz

GBA version of Alpha 3's greatest flaw. :'(

Emulate the PSP version on PPSSPP. :phil

Quote from: Take My Breh Away on November 16, 2015, 02:50:44 PM
Quote from: thisismyusername on November 16, 2015, 11:24:51 AM
Bloodbourne bombed?

In any case, it and Tomb Raider are more saying: "You can't make a former multiplatform series/IP into an exclusive IP/series." People simply will not jump over to another platform from the one they played the series on just to continue to play that series.

I have a feeling Street Fighter 5 may have weaker than average sales, but I'm sure I'll probably be proven wrong since 1) most of the hardcore has gone PS4 so that works in Sony's "exclusive" favor and 2) PC is day and date with the PS4 version so even then people can still get the next one if they have a capable PC.

Bloodborne sold over time and hit 2 million so it wasn't a total bomb but it took months to reach the 2 million mark in September and Sony ran a lot of PR spin about "Being pleased with its results" around NPD time because it didn't really do a lot. Even Evolve had a better debut month. For a big AAA "system seller" it had really lethargic sales and a bad attach rate by the metric that people seem to be measuring a system seller exclusive. It didn't bomb but it wasn't exactly the roaring success PR makes it out to be. 

Also whodat pls. MS has already said they were offered SF V and turned it down to back their own horse. Capcom took the money hat from Sony and Sony PR waved some bullshit about "We really wanted cross play to not divide the community and mean ol' MS said no" to try avoid the same Tomb Raider shitpile, even though MS announced Cross Play between PC/Xbone was coming with Windows 10 only two weeks later after SF V announced (Man Sony has either good PR or fan-people who literally can't think for themselves and know when they are getting played by PR). Neither MS or Sony has any incentive to offer cross play between consoles and especially since PSN is currently a trainwreck you pay to participate in. Like hell Sony would say "You can play on our creaky ol' Network or our competitors shiny stable network". Till there's an actual monetary incentive to allow cross platform across everything. No console company is going to allow it unless it's in their ecosystem. SF V was a completely money driven decision and not "For the good of the community". It's just being spun about the "Community" by the PR people. And people believe it every time   

I dunno. MS's policies are shaky as fuck. "Day one on X-box and not on Playstation" for indies, for instance. It's just as bad as Sony's "no remakes unless they add something new" policy during the PSX era.

FF14 didn't happen because MS doesn't like "opening" their network up for other platforms to merge with. Simple as that. Double so when FF11 probably didn't set the world on fire since everyone playing that was either 1) on PS2 (RIP support for that next year) and 2) on PC. So their attempt to courting Japanese developers on 360 failed and they can't give a fuck since the 11 subs didn't come to the 360 from PS2.

Also you're forgetting that Portal 2 did cross-play and Rocket League does it as well. Sony allows people to open their network up while MS doesn't. MS is only doing it so Killer Instinct will actually have an "active playerbase" if PC users don't take to it (probably going to be MS store exclusive on Windows. :yuck ) so stragglers that ARE on PC will have a playerbase.

But other titles? I extremely doubt they'll allow cross-play, but who knows.

The indie "Parity stuff" ended up being the exact same "If you ship late then you add something" clause as retail and indies being indies were perpetually offended they were asked to add an exclusive feature or something small. It was comical how much Chubbigans tried to make it a thing, then it turned out "Indie devs don't want to play by the same rules as usual" (Especially as devs who actually played ball found out getting a pass was as small as just having a new enemy type or extra color palates for a week or two before updating the PS4 version). Of course, not a lot of people were interested because they needed to shitpost it to death how "Horrible" it was. 

Indie devs :gurl 

As for cross play. Sony's "altruism" is just another marketing gimmick. They never really let cross play go on too much before and most of the time it's less "Oh, we want to keep communities together because we're so good to gamers" and more "We put cross play on and MS won't touch it so it's a de-facto console exclusive when it's not in their ecosystem" because why would either company want to promote the other companies online service with cross play? Almost everything this gen coming from the Sony camp, PR based on reading the forums and dressing it up exactly how the customers want to hear it with the language that Neogaf and other fanboys can easily parrot like that "Community" line. It's almost admirable if it wasn't so perpetually irritating and shoved in your face.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Joe Molotov on November 18, 2015, 05:14:52 PM
Quote from: Tasty Meat on November 17, 2015, 12:21:52 AM
Quote from: Trent Dole on November 16, 2015, 04:36:44 PM
Quote from: Tasty Meat on November 16, 2015, 03:42:26 PM
Too much words, not enough :doge
                          /
(http://i.imgur.com/sHDdc9L.png)
:teehee

This is my favorite thing ever. :lol

A feverish guy flipping the bird with a mouth full of spider eggs is your favorite thing?
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Great Rumbler on November 18, 2015, 05:18:33 PM
Quote from: http://fortune.com/2015/11/16/fallout4-is-quiet-best-seller/
Bethesda’s Fallout 4 sold 12 million copies and generated over $750 million in its first 24 hours at retail on Nov. 10.

:bow
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Joe Molotov on November 18, 2015, 05:19:53 PM
Those are shipped numbers. :wag
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Kara on November 18, 2015, 05:20:09 PM
Black Isle lol

Obsidian lol
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Tasty on November 18, 2015, 10:17:26 PM
Quote from: Joe Molotov on November 18, 2015, 05:14:52 PM
Quote from: Tasty Meat on November 17, 2015, 12:21:52 AM
Quote from: Trent Dole on November 16, 2015, 04:36:44 PM
Quote from: Tasty Meat on November 16, 2015, 03:42:26 PM
Too much words, not enough :doge
                          /
(http://i.imgur.com/sHDdc9L.png)
:teehee

This is my favorite thing ever. :lol

A feverish guy flipping the bird with a mouth full of spider eggs is your favorite thing?

:doge Educate urself (http://raechoo.tumblr.com/post/132803071045/tims-the-type-of-person-who-does-the-thing-even)
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on November 20, 2015, 09:56:59 AM
Massive numbers for fallout daaamn
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on November 25, 2015, 04:31:25 AM
PS4 hit 30.2 million sold through before Xmas and Black Friday
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Trent Dole on November 25, 2015, 04:50:28 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/WnuG5dn.gif)
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on November 26, 2015, 01:05:17 AM
Check a 200 page sticky thread about a topic and then post a gif that "you don't care" breh
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Positive Touch on November 26, 2015, 01:07:20 AM
shove it up your ass sideways kosma. quit this corny bullshit where you act like you're not trolling.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on November 26, 2015, 01:13:39 AM
How is this trolling? Oh wait i just posted the latest sales in the sales topic

Do you work for ms or something that you are so salty?

Sorry you cant handle news, maybe make a new thread about sales where no sony sales are allowed
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Kara on November 26, 2015, 01:58:21 AM
Za naszą i waszą wolność. :delicious
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Tasty on November 26, 2015, 03:29:58 AM
NERDFITE!!!
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Positive Touch on November 26, 2015, 07:05:53 AM
hands-down the worst thing about owning a ps4 is knowing kosma is our there somewhere enjoying it too
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Mods Help on November 26, 2015, 09:30:30 AM
I bought my FGC/JRPG machine for 300 dollars via Amazon Black Friday sale. The power of waiting. :doge If only it came with Ultra SFIV and not fucking Uncharted. I could not care any less about replaying those games at this point though I love 2 and could speed run it like a total special fellow back when it came out. <3 never played 3 tho.

Before I tell myself I regret this, I now have all the tools for SFV, which is the main reason I'm buying it. Got me a ps4 on the way, and already got myself a fightpad.

I now also have a means to play this WITCHER game people keep talking about but lol there's no chance I'll have time to play it because I'm dedicated to getting awesome at SF at this point which requires dedication. :(
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: tiesto on November 26, 2015, 10:34:34 AM
Quote from: Mods Help on November 26, 2015, 09:30:30 AM
I bought my FGC/JRPG machine for 300 dollars via Amazon Black Friday sale. The power of waiting. :doge If only it came with Ultra SFIV and not fucking Uncharted. I could not care any less about replaying those games at this point though I love 2 and could speed run it like a total special fellow back when it came out. <3 never played 3 tho.

Before I tell myself I regret this, I now have all the tools for SFV, which is the main reason I'm buying it. Got me a ps4 on the way, and already got myself a fightpad.

I now also have a means to play this WITCHER game people keep talking about but lol there's no chance I'll have time to play it because I'm dedicated to getting awesome at SF at this point which requires dedication. :(

Have you played the other Witchers? Good shit, probably my favorite western RPGs outside of the Ultima series. I still have to try the 3rd though.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Mods Help on November 26, 2015, 10:35:53 AM
I have Witcher 2 but my computer chugs running it. With Cdpr did a Witcher 2 ps4 port but oh well.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on November 26, 2015, 11:05:39 AM
No need to play w1 and w2 at this point, just start at 3
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Mods Help on November 26, 2015, 11:14:47 AM
Fuck, I forgot you have to pay for psn now. Does ps4 come with free months of ps plus?
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Positive Touch on November 26, 2015, 01:15:00 PM
only if u never had it before
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Tasty on November 27, 2015, 09:50:46 PM
http://www.businessinsider.com/target-online-sales-break-record-2015-11

The Wii U is BACK! :rock

spoiler (click to show/hide)
:P
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Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Mods Help on November 28, 2015, 09:04:05 PM
wrong thread
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: chronovore on December 03, 2015, 09:55:08 PM
Quote from: benjipwns on November 15, 2015, 11:01:08 PM
To be fair, it's only released on half its intended platforms. Most true gamers are probably waiting for the PS4 version next fall.
Yeah, this is me. And I think a number of people jumped from 360 to PS4 instead of Xbone this gen.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on December 11, 2015, 10:06:44 AM
:smug
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on December 11, 2015, 10:45:58 AM
Tomb Raider 200k on xbone and 360 combined

Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Trent Dole on December 11, 2015, 04:26:46 PM
Just fucking let tomb raider die already.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Positive Touch on December 11, 2015, 04:32:51 PM
Quote from: Trent Dole on December 11, 2015, 04:26:46 PM
Just fucking let tomb raider die already.

:| the last one was one of the biggest sellers in the franchise and most likely the only reason this one bombed is bc is was an exclusive that went up against Fallout. GTFO
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Trent Dole on December 11, 2015, 05:20:25 PM
Fine, but I think it's weird that people are still into Indian Jones with tits.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Joe Molotov on December 11, 2015, 10:00:25 PM
Quote from: Trent Dole on December 11, 2015, 05:20:25 PM
Fine, but I think it's weird that people are still into Indian Jones with tits.

Why do you think that's weird? People like Indiana Jones and they like tits.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: mormapope on December 11, 2015, 10:17:26 PM
Tomb Raider 2013 was Rambo Part 2.
Rise of the Tomb Raider is Indiana Rambo.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on December 12, 2015, 01:55:39 AM
Btw the Order 1886 sold more the TR2

MS picking those exclusives well  :'(
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Rahxephon91 on December 12, 2015, 02:13:45 AM
Quote from: Trent Dole on December 11, 2015, 05:20:25 PM
Fine, but I think it's weird that people are still into Indian Jones with tits.
It's weird that people like quality action adventure games? Ok, that doesn't make sense. I mean Uncharted is popular and while these new Tomb Raider games are good versions of the Uncharted formula(some aspects even better such as combat in the first one) they also do the exploration angle far better.

Rise was a good game, it was also more of the same. I really wish the game would embrace survival mechanics. Take some inspiration from MGS3.

It was a terrible time to release it though. In between some of the biggest multi player series with single player followings and one of the years biggest rpg? Bad idea for a simply good single player action game.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: tiesto on December 12, 2015, 10:15:27 AM
I never played the reboots because them going in the Uncharted linear scripted action direction instead of the trap-dodging, puzzle-solving of the earlier TR games turned me off.

Lara Croft and the Guardian of Light is the best game in the franchise...
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on December 12, 2015, 11:34:15 AM
So wrong wrath goddamn but I guess you werent born in  1996, or maybe 5 or something and playing Mario
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on December 12, 2015, 01:59:49 PM
Replaying Tomb Raider past 1996 doesnt make sense, if you werent there at the time you just can't judge really. Game aged horribly.

First Uncharted was ok, third one had the greatest setpieces imho.

While were at it only Halo 1 and Gears 1 are amazing. I did enjoy Gears 2 but 3 was zzz.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on December 12, 2015, 02:43:40 PM
My bad I thought you were like 5/6 then
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on December 13, 2015, 01:49:17 AM
Oh then no wonder you thought it sucked  :lol
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on December 13, 2015, 03:01:23 AM
Oh I agree I hate that excuse too but I think it holds up sometimes.

I remember plenty or complex games i sucked at as a kid (Alone in the Dark) i thought were cool and some i thought sucked.

Of course you can dislike the game. But if you played Prince of Persia years earlier, and then got TR in 3D you would be more impressed. For you the game exists in a vacuum as you just started gaming.

 Also Silent Hill is from 1999. Thats a whole generation almost of devs working in 3D, really not a fair comparison.

Re is not even close to the level of complexity of TR, just prerendered backgrounds. Good comparison would be Mario 64 which had amazing controls (go Nintendo and tech innovation)

Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: BrokenVerses on December 13, 2015, 10:01:23 PM
From GAF

Quote
US launch month

Tomb Raider [All Formats] - 644,000
Rise of the Tomb Raider [All Formats] - 201,000 (-69%)

Bonus:

Tomb Raider [Xbox 360] - 348,000
Rise of the Tomb Raider [Xbox One] - 175,800 (-49%)
Rise of the Tomb Raider [Xbox 360] - 25,200

UK first week launch

(100%)

Tomb Raider [All Formats] - 206,500
Rise of the Tomb Raider [All Formats] - 44,000 (-79%)

Bonus:

Tomb Raider [Xbox 360] - 103,000
Rise of the Tomb Raider [Xbox One] - 37,400 (-64%)
Rise of the Tomb Raider [All Formats] - 44,000 (-57%)
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: mormapope on December 13, 2015, 10:04:15 PM
Those numbers make a lot of sense. Tomb Raider in 2013 was released on two consoles that each had huge consumer bases. Even if it was released on PS4 it probably would've still fallen a bit short due to how many current gen console owners there are right now.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: brob on December 13, 2015, 10:09:03 PM
does the new tomb raider have survival elements yet? It's a very obvious and good addition and also would help distinguish it from uncharted. pls let me eat wolves and raid tombs rather than shoot mans.  :(

Quote from: WRATH VICE™ on December 12, 2015, 11:37:23 AM
I played all of them from back then and have replayed some recently. I always thought they sucked.

if you always thought tomb raider sucked: a) why did you play all of them and b) why did you replay some recently? ???
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: mormapope on December 13, 2015, 10:12:01 PM
Based on what I've read and seen, mechanically its identical to Tomb Raider 2013 with a lot more tombs/ruins and more puzzles.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: brob on December 13, 2015, 10:14:53 PM
a step in the right direction I guess, hope it sells well enough that they can iterate further so I can raid tombs and eat wolves.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Great Rumbler on December 14, 2015, 12:00:23 AM
Quote from: mormapope on December 13, 2015, 10:04:15 PM
Those numbers make a lot of sense. Tomb Raider in 2013 was released on two consoles that each had huge consumer bases.

It launched on PC, too.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: thisismyusername on December 14, 2015, 01:25:23 AM
Eh, the original Tomb Raider and 2 was amazing for the time. It even had decent platforming. Running jumps were 3 squares away. Regular jumps: 2 or so. You could figure out the platforming easily. Lara's character wasn't cranked up to overkilling sex-pot until after the second where the character/Core blew up and Eidos pulled an Ubisoft on the series.

I haven't finished the Crystal Reboot nor the Re-Reboot yet. I need to get on doing that last one of the reboot. :doge I didn't mind that reboot, personally. Outside of the muddled family history that Crystal decided to throw in. :doge :doge :doge

@Wrath: Tomb Raider 2 is a classic and I won't hear different. :bolo

Quote from: Great Rumbler on December 14, 2015, 12:00:23 AM
Quote from: mormapope on December 13, 2015, 10:04:15 PM
Those numbers make a lot of sense. Tomb Raider in 2013 was released on two consoles that each had huge consumer bases.

It launched on PC, too.

Yeah, but the numbers don't include the PC platform?
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: brob on December 14, 2015, 01:31:36 AM
Quote from: WRATH VICE™ on December 14, 2015, 12:42:41 AM
Keep in mind that I lived in the golden age of piracy around here and those games were 1$ a pop. So it wasn't difficult to find or too much money to spend to try them out at my leisure and curiosity.

the money is whatever, I was more thinking about the obvious waste of time it would be to keep playing a game you're not enjoying. I've been meaning to play Legend at some point, cus I think that might be the good one to replay, but I can't really be bothered.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: mormapope on December 14, 2015, 06:40:12 AM
Games are a pretty weird medium when it comes to returning to stuff you played in the past. I played through Half Life 2 on the original Xbox and the 360, thought it was average/good but nothing special. I just finished a playthrough and now its definitely one of my favorite games of all time.

As we get older we appreciate things differently, while also being a lot more impatient when it comes to other things.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Mupepe on December 14, 2015, 07:47:54 AM
Quote from: thisismyusername on December 14, 2015, 01:25:23 AM
Eh, the original Tomb Raider and 2 was amazing for the time. It even had decent platforming. Running jumps were 3 squares away. Regular jumps: 2 or so. You could figure out the platforming easily. Lara's character wasn't cranked up to overkilling sex-pot until after the second where the character/Core blew up and Eidos pulled an Ubisoft on the series.

I haven't finished the Crystal Reboot nor the Re-Reboot yet. I need to get on doing that last one of the reboot. :doge I didn't mind that reboot, personally. Outside of the muddled family history that Crystal decided to throw in. :doge :doge :doge

@Wrath: Tomb Raider 2 is a classic and I won't hear different. :bolo

Judging distances by squares.

:dead

I can relate though
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Mods Help on December 14, 2015, 08:55:39 AM
Tomb Raider anniversary is really good for what it's worth.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: seagrams hotsauce on December 22, 2015, 02:34:14 PM
Whoops, wrong thread
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Positive Touch on December 22, 2015, 02:52:10 PM
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Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on January 05, 2016, 09:16:38 AM
Quote from: Premium Lager on November 25, 2015, 04:31:25 AM
PS4 hit 30.2 million sold through before Xmas and Black Friday

35.9 million sold through now

Beast mode
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on January 21, 2016, 11:39:40 AM
Germany numbers

LT sales:
[PS4] 2,800,000 (68%)
[WIU] 690,000 (17%)
[XB1] 600,000 (15%)
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Trent Dole on January 21, 2016, 07:45:24 PM
Hahaha beaten by the fucking WiiU
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: thisismyusername on January 22, 2016, 12:51:38 AM
Quote from: Trent Dole on January 21, 2016, 07:45:24 PM
Hahaha beaten by the fucking WiiU

That DRM reveal fucked them so hard. :lol Nobody wants the X-box after that reveal. Even though they have backpedaled and tried to bring goodwill back, the damage has been done.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on January 22, 2016, 05:56:23 AM
France:

PS4: 2.15 Million
WiiU: 742K
XBO: 715K
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on January 23, 2016, 08:31:14 AM
The Bone is Microsoft's last console.  Even during the 360 heyday, Microsoft had to defend keeping the Xbox 360 around to shareholders.  It just isn't a big money maker.

Sony as a whole has yet to get out of junk bond status even though PS4 is doing well.

This is still the last console generation.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: tiesto on January 23, 2016, 10:17:45 AM
99 Bones sold last week in Japan  :lol
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Take My Breh Away on January 23, 2016, 12:09:22 PM
Quote from: Mary Tyler Whore on January 23, 2016, 08:31:14 AM
The Bone is Microsoft's last console.  Even during the 360 heyday, Microsoft had to defend keeping the Xbox 360 around to shareholders.  It just isn't a big money maker.

Sony as a whole has yet to get out of junk bond status even though PS4 is doing well.

This is still the last console generation.

All it takes is Microsoft hitting the panic button and going for "If it works on Windows 10, it works on Xbox and vice versa" and consoles are done. Good fucking luck to Sony if they think they can pull "It can also be on PC but Linux Only" because Valve fucked up and Khronos group are playing politics again with Vulkan (This time the wheel is on "Nvidia's fault" and will spin around to AMD or Intel come GDC when they announce another delay)

Next gen is probably going to be branded W10 or Linux pre-built form factors as reference models. The age of consoles is over 

(http://i.imgur.com/ZwrDlVR.gif)
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Mods Help on January 23, 2016, 12:25:14 PM
Quote from: Take My Breh Away on January 23, 2016, 12:09:22 PM
Quote from: Mary Tyler Whore on January 23, 2016, 08:31:14 AM
The Bone is Microsoft's last console.  Even during the 360 heyday, Microsoft had to defend keeping the Xbox 360 around to shareholders.  It just isn't a big money maker.

Sony as a whole has yet to get out of junk bond status even though PS4 is doing well.

This is still the last console generation.

All it takes is Microsoft hitting the panic button and going for "If it works on Windows 10, it works on Xbox and vice versa" and consoles are done. Good fucking luck to Sony if they think they can pull "It can also be on PC but Linux Only" because Valve fucked up and Khronos group are playing politics again with Vulkan (This time the wheel is on "Nvidia's fault" and will spin around to AMD or Intel come GDC when they announce another delay)

I've re-read this multiple times and still can't garner what the fuck you mean.

Valve is fighting with Vulcan? Where's ambassador Spock?

So you're saying MS will just repackage consoles as pcs? Is that what you're saying?

Just really confusing post.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Trent Dole on January 23, 2016, 02:06:14 PM
I was going to do a joke post saying 'TurboGrafx-16 is NEC's last console!' but they did a JP only machine after that. :gloomy Every gen is the last console gen. People like physical discs and broadband ain't what it should be all over the states and so gaming based in physical media is probably not going to be uh, going anywhere for a while still.
Quote from: Mods Help on January 23, 2016, 12:25:14 PM
Just really confusing post.
Definitely a pile of nonsense but you can't deny the greatness of this gif.
(http://i.imgur.com/ZwrDlVR.gif)
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Take My Breh Away on January 23, 2016, 02:25:48 PM
Quote from: Mods Help on January 23, 2016, 12:25:14 PM
Quote from: Take My Breh Away on January 23, 2016, 12:09:22 PM
Quote from: Mary Tyler Whore on January 23, 2016, 08:31:14 AM
The Bone is Microsoft's last console.  Even during the 360 heyday, Microsoft had to defend keeping the Xbox 360 around to shareholders.  It just isn't a big money maker.

Sony as a whole has yet to get out of junk bond status even though PS4 is doing well.

This is still the last console generation.

All it takes is Microsoft hitting the panic button and going for "If it works on Windows 10, it works on Xbox and vice versa" and consoles are done. Good fucking luck to Sony if they think they can pull "It can also be on PC but Linux Only" because Valve fucked up and Khronos group are playing politics again with Vulkan (This time the wheel is on "Nvidia's fault" and will spin around to AMD or Intel come GDC when they announce another delay)

I've re-read this multiple times and still can't garner what the fuck you mean.

Valve is fighting with Vulcan? Where's ambassador Spock?

So you're saying MS will just repackage consoles as pcs? Is that what you're saying?

Just really confusing post.

Yes. I just mean MS and Sony and Nintendo will repackage consoles as PC's. Or to make a non-distinguished mentally-challenged less buzzword version

Microsoft are in a position where everything on xbone can be made available on PC and every future Xbox just be a W10 PC with Xbox branding that runs anything you throw at it would be a viable option. They would lose revenue in license fees from 3rd party publishers outside of their own store but it would give them control of the core gaming ecosystem and the final "Fuck you" to Sony and Nintendo who would have no response option other than to start moneyhatting everything in comparison to MS getting games on their console by default or just give up and go to PC. Consumers would then have the choice of buying a console (Which at that point, USB-C Thunderbolt ports may have taken off and it would be feasible to "Upgrade" your console components with a co-processing unit like Razer Core) or building their own gaming system. 

Vulkan is a competing API to Direct X and supposedly the silver bullet that would "make linux gaming popular" by the company that created OpenGL. The final version been constantly delayed and the developer has a bad habit of blaming everyone but themselves for it (Recently they are claiming Nvidia hasn't made a back end for it and Nvidia's claiming Vulkan is nowhere near release ready). It has no release in sight and games using it are not likely to appear till late 2017/18.

With Valve made their own Linux OS. It's terrible and a bad advertisement for linux gaming (You can get much lighter and better distros) on top of people's waning trust of Valve's brand. If Sony started moneyhatting 3rd party exclusives with "Only on Linux" in response to Microsoft tearing down the wall between PC and Xbox. No sane publisher or developer would agree to it and it would destroy the concept of 3rd party exclusives.

In summary. There is no option but to adopt PC gaming in the future from a practical and financial standpoint. If Microsoft starts killing the distinction between console and PC. It's going to force a massive change for the entire industry and focus it towards the PC gaming model as traditional locked down ecosystem consoles wouldn't be able to survive against a model where you can just play anything, anywhere.

And Mobile Gaming still will be a beast :bow2
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on January 23, 2016, 03:07:10 PM
Hahahhaa Microsoft is in the position

Hahahaha
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on January 23, 2016, 11:46:47 PM
I just see Microsoft dropping Xbox consoles in 2018 or 2019.  The Xbox brand may live on but as a cloud gaming service or whatever Microsoft is messing around with at that time.  Then eventually the Xbox name goes away when Microsoft inevitably rebrands it once they find that the Xbox name doesn't mean much in the 2020s.

I could see Sony stretching the PS4 out as long as the PS3 if not longer.  If (and this is a big if) Sony makes a PS5, it probably won't be out until 2021 at the earliest.

Nintendo will keep pumping out new consoles and handhelds every 4-5 years because they want to put out a new NSMB or Mario Kart; the reason why they release one of those games per console/handle per generation is that they can't get away with minor upgrades that they could get away with if it was a new device.  As a result, Nintendo will likely keep putting out new hardware so long as they are creatively bankrupt.  Nintendo consoles will never move more than 15-20 million units.  It is a reliable 15-20 million because it's the same manchildren buying the latest and greatest NSMB game so they can get a stiffy at the latest nostalgic inclusion of a new item or a new gameplay mechanic that is ripped from Super Mario Bros 3 or Super Mario World.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Tasty on January 24, 2016, 02:13:51 AM
Quote from: Take My Breh Away on January 23, 2016, 12:09:22 PM
Quote from: Mary Tyler Whore on January 23, 2016, 08:31:14 AM
The Bone is Microsoft's last console.  Even during the 360 heyday, Microsoft had to defend keeping the Xbox 360 around to shareholders.  It just isn't a big money maker.

Sony as a whole has yet to get out of junk bond status even though PS4 is doing well.

This is still the last console generation.

All it takes is Microsoft hitting the panic button and going for "If it works on Windows 10, it works on Xbox and vice versa" and consoles are done. Good fucking luck to Sony if they think they can pull "It can also be on PC but Linux Only" because Valve fucked up and Khronos group are playing politics again with Vulkan (This time the wheel is on "Nvidia's fault" and will spin around to AMD or Intel come GDC when they announce another delay)

Next gen is probably going to be branded W10 or Linux pre-built form factors as reference models. The age of consoles is over 

(http://i.imgur.com/ZwrDlVR.gif)

This GIF is brilliant. :lol

I don't see MS or Sony getting out of the race. Microsoft loves tossing the "Xbox" brand onto other shit ("Xbox Music," rly? Also "Cortana" for smartphones, etc.) because it's their only entertainment brand that has stuck even a little.

Sony also has very few solid consumer products left. I could see them ending the PS line if they were to split the company up or whatever, but as it stands the PS4 is Sony's only actual success of the past 5 years.

Nintendo is of course off snuffing glue in the corner, but their cash reserves and conservative board mean they can do "risks" like Amiibo and smartphone games to juice the bottom line while still middling around sales-wise for their systems for at least another 10 years I think. The only scenario that would disrupt this is if some kind of corporate takeover happened. Though I suppose the new CEO could be a wildcard, should be interesting what kind of moves he makes compared to Iwata.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: HyperZoneWasAwesome on January 24, 2016, 04:00:32 AM
I want consoles, and yes, even handheld consoles to stick around if for nothing else then to act as a bulwark against the encroaching mobile takeover of the gaming industry.

the PC market can't, and I don't believe it ever really will become bigger then mobile is now or will be in the future. Nor do I really see the utterly shitty 'monetization' models for mobile gaming going away either. People who buy gaming-capable computers, or even computers in general will never be a bigger market to game makers then phones/tablets, and the PC game market looks a hellava lot poorer without the multi-platform development model that it enjoys now.

Traditional publishers who want to keep that model have incentive to keep it around. So I'm hoping, and believing, that there will be a place for consoles in the future.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: mormapope on January 24, 2016, 03:28:29 PM
The main thing that would change if consoles get phased out is game devs wouldn't push PC hardware nearly as much. Every AAA dev or publisher would have to release more modest games that sell well due to word of mouth or really simple games that have a hook. Game budgets would become much lower due to less demand and having to make a game that works on all modern hardware that isn't juiced up.

Basically everyone would have to play by rules that PC only developers have been following the entire time.

It would be a huge reset.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Mods Help on January 24, 2016, 03:44:52 PM
Quote from: HyperZoneWasAwesome on January 24, 2016, 04:00:32 AM
I want consoles, and yes, even handheld consoles to stick around if for nothing else then to act as a bulwark against the encroaching mobile takeover of the gaming industry.

the PC market can't, and I don't believe it ever really will become bigger then mobile is now or will be in the future. Nor do I really see the utterly shitty 'monetization' models for mobile gaming going away either. People who buy gaming-capable computers, or even computers in general will never be a bigger market to game makers then phones/tablets, and the PC game market looks a hellava lot poorer without the multi-platform development model that it enjoys now.

Traditional publishers who want to keep that model have incentive to keep it around. So I'm hoping, and believing, that there will be a place for consoles in the future.

Why are you scared of mobile? What mobile games have you played?
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: VomKriege on January 31, 2016, 03:45:12 AM
Guys aren't you forgetting to factor SteamBoxes as the game changer ? :smug

Joke aside, I guess they would actually have more of a place in a market where consoles would be bodysnatched with Windows/Linux prebuilt standards.

Quote
All it takes is Microsoft hitting the panic button and going for "If it works on Windows 10, it works on Xbox and vice versa"

Didn't they sorta tried starting something like that with GFWL ?

Quote
I don't see MS or Sony getting out of the race. Microsoft loves tossing the "Xbox" brand onto other shit ("Xbox Music," rly? Also "Cortana" for smartphones, etc.) because it's their only entertainment brand that has stuck even a little.

Not an insider by any means but Microsoft is to me one of the companies most susceptible to actually just re-tool/dump something not performing to expectations, to the point of just rolling back or discontinuing services to consumers pretty abruptly. I don't think they are that commited to the survival of the "Xbox brand", certainly not as much as Sony is with Playstation. If it dies, Microsoft will just bankroll another few Titanics before finding one that sticks, I guess.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Take My Breh Away on January 31, 2016, 06:32:12 AM
Quote from: VomKriege on January 31, 2016, 03:45:12 AM
Guys aren't you forgetting to factor SteamBoxes as the game changer ? :smug

Joke aside, I guess they would actually have more of a place in a market where consoles would be bodysnatched with Windows/Linux prebuilt standards.

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All it takes is Microsoft hitting the panic button and going for "If it works on Windows 10, it works on Xbox and vice versa"

Didn't they sorta tried starting something like that with GFWL ?

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I don't see MS or Sony getting out of the race. Microsoft loves tossing the "Xbox" brand onto other shit ("Xbox Music," rly? Also "Cortana" for smartphones, etc.) because it's their only entertainment brand that has stuck even a little.

Not an insider by any means but Microsoft is to me one of the companies most susceptible to actually just re-tool/dump something not performing to expectations, to the point of just rolling back or discontinuing services to consumers pretty abruptly. I don't think they are that commited to the survival of the "Xbox brand", certainly not as much as Sony is with Playstation. If it dies, Microsoft will just bankroll another few Titanics before finding one that sticks, I guess.


Steam Boxes launched the same day as Fallout 4 and Rise Of The Tomb Raider. Guess which "Flop" people talked about (Then got butthurt when it sold over a million) :heh

GFWL was a separate service and a complete clusterfuck that no one wants back. Especially as it was completely separate from Xbox but they tried bringing the same concepts over. What I'm trying to get at is that if Microsoft said "No more barriers between PC and Console. Same executable on Windows 10 runs on Xbox and you own it everywhere". 3rd parties and indies would cream their pants and it would be an "Uh-Oh" moment for Sony and Nintendo. Especially trying to buy timed exclusivity would get a lot more expensive and that would open the market further for Dell or even Nvidia to make their own "Xbox" along with Microsoft having their own box. Especially since there's been pretty significant advances in USB-C Thunderbolt technology. "Upgradeable" consoles are possible next gen.

Also, Windows 10 games currently supposed to just run with the Xbox app like Steam would. The problem with the app is that it just puts layers of confusion by opening the windows store app instead of going directly in the Xbox app. But it's really lightweight and fast. It boots quicker than steam for most PC games for me, so I use it a fair bit more than I expected to. It's not bad, but it needs a lot more work.


Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: thisismyusername on January 31, 2016, 07:44:13 AM
Wait, Steamboxes sold over a million!? :leon

Too many suckers buying into that Linux ecosystem when Valve's distro of it certainly isn't ready. :doge
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: VomKriege on January 31, 2016, 08:45:43 AM
Quote from: thisismyusername on January 31, 2016, 07:44:13 AM
Wait, Steamboxes sold over a million!? :leon

Too many suckers buying into that Linux ecosystem when Valve's distro of it certainly isn't ready. :doge
Nah I think it's either Fallout or ROTR. Steambox is a total trainwreck, I never understood how some could take with a straight face the idea that Valve could compete in a cutthroat hardware mass market. It doesn't have the manpower or even the intent.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Take My Breh Away on January 31, 2016, 09:41:24 AM
Quote from: thisismyusername on January 31, 2016, 07:44:13 AM
Wait, Steamboxes sold over a million!? :leon

Too many suckers buying into that Linux ecosystem when Valve's distro of it certainly isn't ready. :doge

Like VK says. It was Tomb Raider that didn't flop. At least the console stans bitched about it and generated a ton of traffic and media buzz for it (Because it's a actually really good AAA Popcorn game and word of mouth likely helped it). Steam Machines were such a flop you have to remind people they came out and flopped harder on the same day.  :doge

ROTR's doing healthy on Steam so far, so Square got away with it, it seems.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on January 31, 2016, 03:05:59 PM
Lol ROTR prob needs to sell a few million to break even
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Great Rumbler on January 31, 2016, 03:18:06 PM
Quote from: Premium Lager on January 31, 2016, 03:05:59 PM
Lol ROTR prob needs to sell a few million to break even

The previous Tomb Raider sold something like 3-4 million and S-E was still disappointed by those numbers.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on January 31, 2016, 03:22:02 PM
Yeah exactly, cant imagine they are happy with 1/2 now.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: chronovore on February 09, 2016, 07:09:34 PM
Quote from: Great Rumbler on January 31, 2016, 03:18:06 PM
Quote from: Premium Lager on January 31, 2016, 03:05:59 PM
Lol ROTR prob needs to sell a few million to break even

The previous Tomb Raider sold something like 3-4 million and S-E was still disappointed by those numbers.

S-E can eat a bag of dicks. That year they were fond of blaming anything developed by their non-Japanese development houses, and waltzed right past their troubled Japanese studios, humming and looking away.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: archie4208 on February 09, 2016, 07:57:29 PM
XCOM 2 sold >500k after half a week (http://steamspy.com/app/268500)  8)

spoiler (click to show/hide)
Maybe that'll cause Firaxis to hurry up a performance patch. :maf
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Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on February 13, 2016, 06:54:52 AM
Chrono, how do you feel about the timed excl deal?
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on March 11, 2016, 03:39:39 AM
Feb NPD:

Hardware down 23% YOY
PS4 number 1 and up YOY

That's pretty impressive

PS4 = 405k or 406k !

XB1 = 248k or 249k

Close to getting outsold 2:1 in their best territory, gloomy gloomy for xbox.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Fifstar on March 11, 2016, 05:37:55 AM
Quote from: Premium Lager on March 11, 2016, 03:39:39 AM
Hardware down 23% YOY

(https://jayramon.files.wordpress.com/2015/06/oscar.jpg)
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on March 11, 2016, 07:24:44 AM
never forget
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Take My Breh Away on March 11, 2016, 08:09:41 AM
RIP The traditional console model :lawd   

I will be shocked if NX didn't embrace PC in some form at this point to get a leap on Sony as they are stuck trying to push a locked hardware/ecosystem while everyone else is free to try take "Free form factors".

Also Naruto outselling SF V  :heh
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on March 11, 2016, 08:39:15 AM
 :lol if you think Nintendo will do that

Traditional consoles will be around for a long time, at least Playstation will. No one is going to abandon a market where tens of millions of people purchase full priced AAA games every year. You are insane if you think so.

Xbox is really done I think, unless MS has a change of heart and pulls a rabit out of their hat for next gen.

PC will be PC, and I can see a large section of the hardcore remaining there.

Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Mupepe on March 11, 2016, 10:28:26 AM
I have a belly button
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: chronovore on March 12, 2016, 11:04:02 AM
Quote from: Premium Lager on February 13, 2016, 06:54:52 AM
Chrono, how do you feel about the timed excl deal?

I don't visit this thread often, sorry.

I hear it was critical to the game being funded, so I'm fine with it. I'll buy it on PS4 when it comes out.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Am_I_Anonymous on March 14, 2016, 02:40:50 PM
Wonder what the Divisions numbers are going to be across the platforms. I mean I know it's going to be pretty substantial, but I wonder how substantial?
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: archie4208 on April 14, 2016, 07:13:59 PM
March NPD

Tom Clancy's The Division (PS4, Xbox One, PC)
Far Cry: Primal (PS4, Xbox One, PC)
The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess HD (Wii U)
Grand Theft Auto V (PS4, Xbox One, 360, PS3, PC)
UFC 2 (PS4, Xbox One)
MLB 16: The Show (PS4, PS3)
Pokken Tournament (Wii U)
NBA 2K16 (PS4, Xbox One, 360, PSe)
Call of Duty: Black Ops III (Xbox One, PS4, 360, PS3, PC)
Minecraft (360, PS4, Xbox One, PS3)

Pokken outselling Street Fighter.   :sabu
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Take My Breh Away on April 14, 2016, 07:20:38 PM
Killer Instinct now has over 6 million players as well

Capcom what the fuck.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: thisismyusername on April 14, 2016, 07:53:07 PM
Quote from: Take My Breh Away on April 14, 2016, 07:20:38 PM
Killer Instinct now has over 6 million players as well

Capcom what the fuck.

How many are paid-for versus free-to-play?
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: thisismyusername on April 14, 2016, 09:32:09 PM
Quote from: archie4208 on April 14, 2016, 07:13:59 PM
Pokken outselling Street Fighter.   :sabu

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=201005276#post201005276

Quote from: -tetsuo-;201005276
Pokken > SFV

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=201005404&postcount=209

Quote from: CosmicQueso;201005404
LTD?  Not quite.  Almost.

Capcom: (http://i.imgur.com/iphWzzz.gif)

Rest of us: (http://i.imgur.com/y3G0g0s.gif)
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: mormapope on April 14, 2016, 09:54:24 PM
All those delicious IPs up for grabs when Capcom goes under  :hyper
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on April 14, 2016, 10:35:45 PM
Fighting game fad died off somewhere around 2011.

Didn't Sony pay Capcom to make SF5 though?
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: mormapope on April 14, 2016, 10:50:24 PM
They paid for some of it's development or promotion, but probably not a sizable amount in general.

MKX was a top 5 best selling game last year, 2D fighters are doing well enough. Fighting games in general sales wise are just as big as they were, except for Street Fighter.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: thisismyusername on April 14, 2016, 10:55:57 PM
Quote from: Mary Tyler Whore on April 14, 2016, 10:35:45 PM
Didn't Sony pay Capcom to make SF5 though?

Some of it, like Morma said.

As for fighting games, they've generally always been niche. But SF5 collapsed hard due to it's bad launch state. It remains to be seen if it'll recover post-June, but I extremely doubt it. Every other fighter floats by pretty successfully with their niches.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Take My Breh Away on April 15, 2016, 07:58:04 AM
Quote from: thisismyusername on April 14, 2016, 07:53:07 PM
Quote from: Take My Breh Away on April 14, 2016, 07:20:38 PM
Killer Instinct now has over 6 million players as well

Capcom what the fuck.

How many are paid-for versus free-to-play?

They didn't say the ratio but KI is essentially just a demo with one character in "F2P" mode. I'd imagine the conversion rate for purchases is high since you need to buy something to get any sort of experience in the game. The six million number was for unique log ins in March. So probably a fair chunk of people made a purchase. Probably related to Season 3.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on April 15, 2016, 10:59:12 AM
Honestly no one cares about fighters anymore unless there is some beefy SP ala MK, right?
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Tasty on April 15, 2016, 04:54:57 PM
Quote from: archie4208 on April 14, 2016, 07:13:59 PM
March NPD

Tom Clancy's The Division (PS4, Xbox One, PC)
Far Cry: Primal (PS4, Xbox One, PC)
The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess HD (Wii U)
Grand Theft Auto V (PS4, Xbox One, 360, PS3, PC)
UFC 2 (PS4, Xbox One)
MLB 16: The Show (PS4, PS3)
Pokken Tournament (Wii U)
NBA 2K16 (PS4, Xbox One, 360, PSe)
Call of Duty: Black Ops III (Xbox One, PS4, 360, PS3, PC)
Minecraft (360, PS4, Xbox One, PS3)

Pokken outselling Street Fighter.   :sabu

Holy fokken shit :dead
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Tasty on April 15, 2016, 06:35:51 PM
Nintendo 3DS has also sold more this Q1 2016 than Q1 2014. 
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Joe Molotov on April 15, 2016, 07:48:55 PM
Quote from: Tasty Meat on April 15, 2016, 06:35:51 PM
Nintendo 3DS has also sold more this Q1 2016 than Q1 2014. 

Fire Emblem Fates, Bravely Second: End Layer, Langrisser Re:Incarnation -TENSEI-, Zero Escape: Zero Time Dilemma, 7th Dragon III Code: VFD :lawd

Catering to the Otakus :lawd
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: tiesto on April 15, 2016, 11:10:39 PM
3DS Langrisser game :gloomy

Looks so shitty, sad to see this series be revived and turned into this. I guess it beats getting revived as a mobile gatcha though.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Tasty on April 16, 2016, 07:56:44 PM
Quote from: Joe Molotov on April 15, 2016, 07:48:55 PM
Quote from: Tasty Meat on April 15, 2016, 06:35:51 PM
Nintendo 3DS has also sold more this Q1 2016 than Q1 2014. 

Fire Emblem Fates, Bravely Second: End Layer, Langrisser Re:Incarnation -TENSEI-, Zero Escape: Zero Time Dilemma, 7th Dragon III Code: VFD :lawd

Catering to the Otakus :lawd

And the best JRPG this year has yet to come out. :lawd
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: VomKriege on April 17, 2016, 02:29:58 AM
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/04/17/magazine/the-minecraft-generation.html?rref=collection%2Fsectioncollection%2Fmagazine&_r=2

Long article on Minecraft, with the mention that it's still selling 10,000 a day.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: chronovore on April 17, 2016, 06:23:06 AM
Quote from: VomKriege on April 17, 2016, 02:29:58 AM
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/04/17/magazine/the-minecraft-generation.html?rref=collection%2Fsectioncollection%2Fmagazine&_r=2

Long article on Minecraft, with the mention that it's still selling 10,000 a day.

Seems like it's just starting to catch fire over here in Japan. At least, where we are in the suburbs of Kansai, it is only now beginning to become crazy popular. Most kids are playing it on smartphone or tablet, though the PS4 version is likely popular too. My son has had friends over every day to play four-player local splitscreen games. It is mayhem.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on April 28, 2016, 02:31:14 AM
PS4 at 40 million shipped

PSN higher revenue then whole of Nintendo, keep ignoring digital Nintendo  :lol
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Tasty on April 28, 2016, 09:48:06 AM
Quote from: Premium Lager on April 28, 2016, 02:31:14 AM
PS4 at 40 million shipped

PSN higher revenue then whole of Nintendo, keep ignoring digital Nintendo  :lol

They're not though. :wtf
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: archnemesis on April 28, 2016, 10:31:35 AM
Nintendo are trying to improve their digital branch. Maybe it will reach a decent level with the launch of the NX.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: thisismyusername on May 01, 2016, 05:45:39 PM
Quote from: archnemesis on April 28, 2016, 10:31:35 AM
Nintendo are trying to improve their digital branch. Maybe it will reach a decent level with the launch of the NX.

:gurl :comeon :dead

If you're serious: :gurl :gurl :gurl :comeon :comeon :comeon
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: archnemesis on May 02, 2016, 02:38:08 AM
They are already a decade behind Microsoft with having digital purchases tied to accounts. At some point they should be able to catch up. IIRC, they first tried it with the 3DS launch.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on May 12, 2016, 07:27:27 AM
There is no trying to catch up, the recipe is there, just implement it. Or hire someone that knows how to do it. They don't have to reinvent the wheel almost every company has some normal account system.

I can login to Steam from my toothbrush and make purchases, that I can access on my laptop or wherever. It's not rocket science.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: archie4208 on May 12, 2016, 06:51:45 PM
April NPD

Dark Souls III (PS4, Xbox One)
Ratchet & Clank (PS4)
MLB 16: The Show (PS4, PS3)
Tom Clancy’s The Division (PS4, Xbox One, PC)
Grand Theft Auto V (PS4, Xbox One, 360, PS3, PC)
Minecraft (Xbox One, 360, PS4, PS3)
Quantum Break (Xbox One)
Call of Duty: Black Ops III (Xbox One, PS4, 360, PS3, PC)
NBA 2K16 (PS4, Xbox One, 360, PS3)
Star Fox: Zero (Wii U)
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Great Rumbler on May 12, 2016, 07:42:49 PM
:bow DANK SOULS :bow2
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Take My Breh Away on May 12, 2016, 08:21:55 PM
Console sales figures are apparently "very disappointing" according to rumbles on twitter and no company is putting out PR. So that PS4 Neo leak probably just totalled all three of them till the end of the year because no one is going to buy a new console. It's going to get hilarious.

And congratulations to Activision Blizzard for winning May NPD with the highly successful Overwatch. 
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: mormapope on May 12, 2016, 09:12:43 PM
This gen is going to flat line completely for hardware sales soon, except on months of behemoths like GTA and Elder Scrolls. Last gen had so many gimmicks or surprises that casual players could fuck around with.

Last gen had:

CoD
Guitar Hero/Rockband
Wii
Kinect
Minecraft

A person buys a console to play Rock Band or Call of Duty, now they would have access to other mega popular things. Last gen had a ton of different waves of things being popular for a couple or few years.

This gen, Call of Duty sells well but sales for each game are inconsistent as fuck and they haven't hit a previous peak reached before. Nintendo is dead. Rock Band and Guitar Hero sequels flopped. Motion controls are dead. Minecraft is the biggest outlier.

Nothing new has been introduced this gen to gain casual attention, nadda. There is no new wave. Console sales this gen have been driven by bundles and "good will" so to speak, buying a console now for a few games and building up a big library over time.


Software in general will either sell well or well enough, but this gen for Sony and Microsoft will not reach the hardware numbers of last gen, not even close.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: tiesto on May 12, 2016, 10:45:57 PM
I like that gaming is becoming a bit more 'core-driven' this gen, personally. Last gen may have had a lot of great casual-oriented games but it seems like the more niche titles were all but gone.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: archie4208 on May 13, 2016, 08:02:34 AM
Quote from: Take My Breh Away on May 12, 2016, 08:21:55 PM
Console sales figures are apparently "very disappointing" according to rumbles on twitter and no company is putting out PR. So that PS4 Neo leak probably just totalled all three of them till the end of the year because no one is going to buy a new console. It's going to get hilarious.

And congratulations to Activision Blizzard for winning May NPD with the highly successful Overwatch.

PS4 - 175k
XB1 - 168k
WIU - 32k
360 - 13k
PS3 - 4k

:gaben
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: archie4208 on May 13, 2016, 11:17:52 AM
Quote from: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=203492850&postcount=1247
Official numbers are out.

Dark Souls 3 - 504,000
Quantum Break < 150,000 (including bundle)
Bravely Second < 100,000

Others sales from this month

MLB 16 the Show < 185,000
The Division - 175,000 (including bundle)
Call of Duty: Black Ops III - 262,000 (including bundle)

Call of Duty: Black Ops III bundle sold 157,000 unit this month, 90% of total PS4 sales.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Tasty on May 13, 2016, 11:25:29 AM
Star Fox somehow charting :mindblown
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: thisismyusername on May 13, 2016, 11:27:16 AM
Quote from: tiesto on May 12, 2016, 10:45:57 PM
I like that gaming is becoming a bit more 'core-driven' this gen, personally. Last gen may have had a lot of great casual-oriented games but it seems like the more niche titles were all but gone.

Enjoy it being the last physical release generation, then? Cores are starting to go digital. Digitals are upticking slowly but surely toward 25-50%.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on May 13, 2016, 12:26:22 PM
ill ride the physical wave till the end

buy play sell
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Yulwei on May 13, 2016, 12:31:21 PM
Quote from: archie4208 on May 13, 2016, 08:02:34 AM
Quote from: Take My Breh Away on May 12, 2016, 08:21:55 PM
Console sales figures are apparently "very disappointing" according to rumbles on twitter and no company is putting out PR. So that PS4 Neo leak probably just totalled all three of them till the end of the year because no one is going to buy a new console. It's going to get hilarious.

And congratulations to Activision Blizzard for winning May NPD with the highly successful Overwatch.

PS4 - 175k
XB1 - 168k
WIU - 32k
360 - 13k
PS3 - 4k

:gaben

Looks like gaming is fucked but luckily there are enough games already out to last a life time.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Kara on May 13, 2016, 12:34:10 PM
Quote from: Kaffir The Reaper on May 13, 2016, 08:14:45 AM
Quote from: archie4208 on May 13, 2016, 08:02:34 AM
PS3 - 4k

The Ghost of Oscars Past left us a message.

Gotta play DUST 514 while you still can.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Mupepe on May 13, 2016, 12:38:35 PM
Damn.  Those Quantum Break numbers are sad.  A great fucking game too.  Oh well.   :doge
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on May 13, 2016, 01:00:50 PM
april is traditionally the bad month I think, oscar would back that up
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Joe Molotov on May 13, 2016, 01:30:07 PM
Also, it was raining this month.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Tasty on May 13, 2016, 01:40:21 PM
All digital future :rejoice

All digital present :rejoice
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Positive Touch on May 13, 2016, 04:33:30 PM
soooo... is remedy finished?  :(
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: thisismyusername on May 13, 2016, 11:16:35 PM
Quote from: Positive Touch on May 13, 2016, 04:33:30 PM
soooo... is remedy finished?  :(

With Microsoft? Probably. I don't see Microsoft bankrolling further Remedy titles. As a studio? Hardly, AFAIK. Steam's launch of Alan Wake helped them out. Really, though: MS's mandates for them is what is fucking Remedy over more than anything. I doubt a non-UWA/UWP of Quantum Break for PC would be as shit-show-y as the UWA release.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: chronovore on May 25, 2016, 12:40:24 AM
Quote from: thisismyusername on May 13, 2016, 11:16:35 PM
Quote from: Positive Touch on May 13, 2016, 04:33:30 PM
soooo... is remedy finished?  :(

With Microsoft? Probably. I don't see Microsoft bankrolling further Remedy titles. As a studio? Hardly, AFAIK. Steam's launch of Alan Wake helped them out. Really, though: MS's mandates for them is what is fucking Remedy over more than anything. I doubt a non-UWA/UWP of Quantum Break for PC would be as shit-show-y as the UWA release.

All of this is almost certainly true. Adhering to MS mandates on their platforms is just maddening.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on May 25, 2016, 03:40:25 AM
Next Remedy game on PS4 aaawww yissss
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Take My Breh Away on May 25, 2016, 06:21:41 AM
Quote from: thisismyusername on May 13, 2016, 11:16:35 PM
Quote from: Positive Touch on May 13, 2016, 04:33:30 PM
soooo... is remedy finished?  :(

With Microsoft? Probably. I don't see Microsoft bankrolling further Remedy titles. As a studio? Hardly, AFAIK. Steam's launch of Alan Wake helped them out. Really, though: MS's mandates for them is what is fucking Remedy over more than anything. I doubt a non-UWA/UWP of Quantum Break for PC would be as shit-show-y as the UWA release.

A Win 32 release of QB on steam would have likely have been just as much a shitshow because the game is an absolute monster spec wise. Especially now Remedy put in options to uncap things like the temporal resolution. Only a Fury X or GTX 1080 can run it at 1080P 60FPS native with no upscaling and a fury X will run it better because it's one of the few titles using Async compute fully for the lighting engine. It's an insane looking game effects wise and Remedy is clearly showing off in spots (That bit in Chapter 2 where the weather freaks out in the alleyway is amazing)

The expectations of the PC base were they were just going to to smoke on rigs it just because it's "only 720P" on xbone followed by reality that "Oh wait Remedy made a game with full global illumation, real time lighting and forced MSAAx4 that murders specs" and it's a miracle of the universe it even runs on xbone. It likely would have been "Only 720P" on PS4 as well because the amount of tech the game is pushing is obscene and some of the options really are just "Next gen of PC hardware only". And it was outright neglegent Microsoft and Remedy didn't come out and say it before launch that even your top of the range PC is going to have trouble with it and it was the next gen hardware pusher (It worked for Crytek y'know). UWP got the blame for it despite the problems being relatively minor with UWP and not people admitting Remedy made a game that has a lighting system a generation ahead of what everyone else is using that kills rigs.

I remember seeing an interview with Remedy saying they came in well under budget for a game with less budget than a normal AAA game and the TV show was far cheaper than expected so, they probably did get away with it. But what a shitshow not warning people before launch. Especially since they could have marketed it as the new "So you say you are PC master race? Prove it" title if they didn't fuck up so hard on launch.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on May 25, 2016, 07:43:18 AM
This always happens with some PC game though so it's expected unless you started PC gaming post 2012 or something when it became the thing to do on GAF.

I think Alan Wake had similar issues right? I remember that game was tough to run too compared to other games around that time.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Take My Breh Away on May 25, 2016, 11:09:13 AM
Quote from: Premium Lager on May 25, 2016, 07:43:18 AM
This always happens with some PC game though so it's expected unless you started PC gaming post 2012 or something when it became the thing to do on GAF.

I think Alan Wake had similar issues right? I remember that game was tough to run too compared to other games around that time.

Alan Wake used the same sampling tech on 360 that influenced QB where the game ran at 540P using multisampled 720P images (Or some wizardry like that) and upscaled out so it looked cleaner than other sub-720 games on the 360 like COD 4. It was one of the first real intensive resource games on PC for a while. The marketing of PC gaming has changed from bragging about specs and how each new game was going to be an amazing tech powerhouse that shows off a great rig and new cards to keeping quiet and hoping no one notices, even if the game is well optimized. Even NVIDIA and AMD just pushes the on board features like Gameworks but don't start talking about how it will look incredible with the new 1080 GTX like they used to do. But it's mainly down to the steam effect of publishers hoping people just buy the on sale version to fill their library and wanting to keep the "PC Master Race" complacent. If you tell your consumers that your 970/i5 is not good enough these days. They will just tell you fuck off and not buy your game instead of rushing to buy upgrades or dealing with some reduced settings till the next gen of cards comes along like they used to. 

It's the downside to the PC Gaming Renaissance in that companies can't make games with future technology or be barraged with angry people demanding why it doesn't run at ultra settings on their "glorious" rigs any more.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Rufus on May 25, 2016, 12:39:20 PM
This new class of PC fanboys came into it with the expectation set by shit consoles. The #1 greatest strength of PC gaming has always been scalability, but the PC masterrace shitters don't realize that running every console port at twice the framerate on a medium rig from 2 years ago just because it's a console port is not normal.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: thisismyusername on May 25, 2016, 10:35:38 PM
Quote from: Take My Breh Away on May 25, 2016, 06:21:41 AM
Quote from: thisismyusername on May 13, 2016, 11:16:35 PM
Quote from: Positive Touch on May 13, 2016, 04:33:30 PM
soooo... is remedy finished?  :(

With Microsoft? Probably. I don't see Microsoft bankrolling further Remedy titles. As a studio? Hardly, AFAIK. Steam's launch of Alan Wake helped them out. Really, though: MS's mandates for them is what is fucking Remedy over more than anything. I doubt a non-UWA/UWP of Quantum Break for PC would be as shit-show-y as the UWA release.

A Win 32 release of QB on steam would have likely have been just as much a shitshow because the game is an absolute monster spec wise. Especially now Remedy put in options to uncap things like the temporal resolution. Only a Fury X or GTX 1080 can run it at 1080P 60FPS native with no upscaling and a fury X will run it better because it's one of the few titles using Async compute fully for the lighting engine. It's an insane looking game effects wise and Remedy is clearly showing off in spots (That bit in Chapter 2 where the weather freaks out in the alleyway is amazing)

The expectations of the PC base were they were just going to to smoke on rigs it just because it's "only 720P" on xbone followed by reality that "Oh wait Remedy made a game with full global illumation, real time lighting and forced MSAAx4 that murders specs" and it's a miracle of the universe it even runs on xbone. It likely would have been "Only 720P" on PS4 as well because the amount of tech the game is pushing is obscene and some of the options really are just "Next gen of PC hardware only". And it was outright neglegent Microsoft and Remedy didn't come out and say it before launch that even your top of the range PC is going to have trouble with it and it was the next gen hardware pusher (It worked for Crytek y'know). UWP got the blame for it despite the problems being relatively minor with UWP and not people admitting Remedy made a game that has a lighting system a generation ahead of what everyone else is using that kills rigs.

I remember seeing an interview with Remedy saying they came in well under budget for a game with less budget than a normal AAA game and the TV show was far cheaper than expected so, they probably did get away with it. But what a shitshow not warning people before launch. Especially since they could have marketed it as the new "So you say you are PC master race? Prove it" title if they didn't fuck up so hard on launch.

I don't doubt a Win32 port would've been bad, but as bad as the UWA with no modding or attempt to fix until a patch came out? :doge :gurl
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on May 26, 2016, 02:59:52 PM
Uk year to date hardware sales, only PS4 doing good

Year To Date Hardware sales (units)

PlayStation 4 - 207,907 units (+6.7%)
Xbox One (-15.8%)
Nintendo Wii U (-48.3%)

PlayStation 3 (-74.6%)
Xbox 360 (-87.2%)
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Great Rumbler on June 02, 2016, 01:42:52 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/LXvYIc2.jpg)
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Joe Molotov on June 02, 2016, 01:58:42 PM
In case any ladies were cuntfused, here's a handy chart to mansplain how successful Minecraft is.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: tiesto on June 02, 2016, 02:13:13 PM
And I still haven't played it.

spoiler (click to show/hide)
Day 1 when DQ Builders gets released in the US though
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Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Take My Breh Away on June 02, 2016, 02:32:14 PM
Under 500,000 Steam Machines were sold by Valve partners since launch 

http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2016/06/its-time-to-declare-valves-steam-machines-doa/

Time to ignore publishers threatening to bolt to their own services, shovelware infested early access programme, lack of consumer support and not release Half Life 3 for another year, then :doge

Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Rufus on June 02, 2016, 02:40:54 PM
They'll get to those things when they can be automated, be patient.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Joe Molotov on June 02, 2016, 02:51:23 PM
Unpaid interns are hard at work on HL3 in between doing translation work.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Tasty on June 02, 2016, 02:54:25 PM
The issue is that the Steam client has always been a piece of shit, the controller was too weird, and the branding/marketing was muddled at best.

Hmm actually this sounds like a list of the Wii U's problems (replace Steam with the system's OS.) :P
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: archie4208 on June 02, 2016, 03:11:17 PM
At least Steam has more than 5 games.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Tasty on June 02, 2016, 03:28:19 PM
Quote from: archie4208 on June 02, 2016, 03:11:17 PM
At least Steam has more than 5 games.

I wonder if there were any really Steambox-exclusive games if that would have helped.

Gabe should have launched HL3 with this thing.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Trent Dole on June 02, 2016, 06:11:30 PM
A Steambox/SteamOS (part of this complete breakfast!) would've alienated the shit out of anyone who isn't on it (basically EVERYONE) and thus probably would have done more harm than good.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: VomKriege on June 04, 2016, 02:16:11 AM
Quote from: Tasty Meat on June 02, 2016, 03:28:19 PM
Quote from: archie4208 on June 02, 2016, 03:11:17 PM
At least Steam has more than 5 games.

I wonder if there were any really Steambox-exclusive games if that would have helped.

Gabe should have launched HL3 with this thing.

Exclusives would defeat the whole point of being PCs, wouldn't it ?
Besides any title good enough to move out "Steam machines" would surely be immensely more profitable to Valve by just being sold to a much greater user base. They don't really have any stake in the hardware anyway with these things.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Positive Touch on June 04, 2016, 09:37:02 AM
Also they're never making half life 3
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on June 04, 2016, 02:17:38 PM
half life 2 wasnt even that good imho
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Kara on June 04, 2016, 03:11:18 PM
Quote from: Positive Touch on June 04, 2016, 09:37:02 AM
Also they're never making half life 3

Like Shenmue 3.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: thisismyusername on June 04, 2016, 04:15:49 PM
Quote from: Tasty Meat on June 02, 2016, 02:54:25 PM
The issue is that the Steam client has always been a piece of shit, the controller was too weird, and the branding/marketing was muddled at best.

Hmm actually this sounds like a list of the Wii U's problems (replace Steam with the system's OS.) :P

Steam client has nothing to do with Linux flopping. Linux flopping is due to Nobody but Valve and a certain hardcore segment wanting Linux. You can't get Ubisoft, EA, or Activision titles on the OS. Capcom is slowly getting there (whenever SF5 launches on it? :doge :doge :doge :doge :doge :doge :doge :doge :doge :doge :doge :doge  :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :doge ), but other Japanese publishers and niche ones like NISA aren't there.

So... why would you go Linux when 80-95% of your Steam library isn't there?
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Positive Touch on June 04, 2016, 04:27:47 PM
Quote from: Kara on June 04, 2016, 03:11:18 PM
Quote from: Positive Touch on June 04, 2016, 09:37:02 AM
Also they're never making half life 3

Like Shenmue 3.

after shenmue 3, Yu Suzuki spent years wandering the desert as he struggled to find a reason to wake up in the morning, his only hope being that somehow, someway he would find someone to find shenmue 3

after half life 2, Gabe Newell built an actual palace made out of thousand dollar bills and empty nerd fulfillment

there won't be a half life 3
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Positive Touch on June 04, 2016, 04:33:38 PM
i still don't understand what the appeal of Linux is beyond saying "i put Linux on my machine"
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: thisismyusername on June 04, 2016, 04:46:25 PM
Quote from: Positive Touch on June 04, 2016, 04:33:38 PM
i still don't understand what the appeal of Linux is beyond saying "i put Linux on my machine"

"Free as in Freedom, not Free as in Beer." Able to check the OS's source-code and vouches for it if you're security minded. Able to work as a "team" to make new applications or drivers for it. Essentially if you're a programmer and know C, it's useful for you as a programming environment and focus. If you're 99% of other consumers, Windows does everything else, has developers developing for it (because of user base) and thereby kills any sort of need for Linux.

Publishers aren't going to publish Linux-Native applications if only 1% of their purchasers are buying it and using it. Epic and iD Software did native ports of their games in the mid-90's early-00's. They dropped it, do you know why? Because hardly anyone moved to Linux. It's why the whole "we're forking Debian and building our own OS!" fell flat for me with Valve's announcement. There's a market for small-form-factor PC's. But paying $1,000 for one + not having Windows/majority of titles isn't it.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Kara on June 04, 2016, 05:08:37 PM
If my industry wasn't very software driven I might consider going back to Linux, but that's purely for ideological reasons.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Star_OS
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Take My Breh Away on June 04, 2016, 05:12:40 PM
Quote from: thisismyusername on June 04, 2016, 04:46:25 PM
Quote from: Positive Touch on June 04, 2016, 04:33:38 PM
i still don't understand what the appeal of Linux is beyond saying "i put Linux on my machine"

"Free as in Freedom, not Free as in Beer." Able to check the OS's source-code and vouches for it if you're security minded. Able to work as a "team" to make new applications or drivers for it. Essentially if you're a programmer and know C, it's useful for you as a programming environment and focus. If you're 99% of other consumers, Windows does everything else, has developers developing for it (because of user base) and thereby kills any sort of need for Linux.

Publishers aren't going to publish Linux-Native applications if only 1% of their purchasers are buying it and using it. Epic and iD Software did native ports of their games in the mid-90's early-00's. They dropped it, do you know why? Because hardly anyone moved to Linux. It's why the whole "we're forking Debian and building our own OS!" fell flat for me with Valve's announcement. There's a market for small-form-factor PC's. But paying $1,000 for one + not having Windows/majority of titles isn't it.

There's a rumor one of the big announcements MS is making at E3 is "Xbox big picture" mode which just turns W10 PC into an Xbox dashboard, lets you access the big stores through app tiles and selling it as an OEM for small form factors. If that's true and the other one that Bethesda's making their own client then Gabe better pray Blizzard isn't stealing all his hat money.

Communist's open source "Free as in Freedom" software plan? Failed. Closed ecosystems win again  :success
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: thisismyusername on June 04, 2016, 05:13:29 PM
Red Star, not https://tails.boum.org/?

In other news: http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2015/02/the-state-of-linux-gaming-in-the-steamos-era/

Quote from: Take My Breh Away on June 04, 2016, 05:12:40 PM
Quote from: thisismyusername on June 04, 2016, 04:46:25 PM
Quote from: Positive Touch on June 04, 2016, 04:33:38 PM
i still don't understand what the appeal of Linux is beyond saying "i put Linux on my machine"

"Free as in Freedom, not Free as in Beer." Able to check the OS's source-code and vouches for it if you're security minded. Able to work as a "team" to make new applications or drivers for it. Essentially if you're a programmer and know C, it's useful for you as a programming environment and focus. If you're 99% of other consumers, Windows does everything else, has developers developing for it (because of user base) and thereby kills any sort of need for Linux.

Publishers aren't going to publish Linux-Native applications if only 1% of their purchasers are buying it and using it. Epic and iD Software did native ports of their games in the mid-90's early-00's. They dropped it, do you know why? Because hardly anyone moved to Linux. It's why the whole "we're forking Debian and building our own OS!" fell flat for me with Valve's announcement. There's a market for small-form-factor PC's. But paying $1,000 for one + not having Windows/majority of titles isn't it.

There's a rumor one of the big announcements MS is making at E3 is "Xbox big picture" mode which just turns W10 PC into an Xbox dashboard, lets you access the big stores through app tiles and selling it as an OEM for small form factors. If that's true and the other one that Bethesda's making their own client then Gabe better pray Blizzard isn't stealing all his hat money.

Communist's open source "Free as in Freedom" software plan? Failed. Closed ecosystems win again  :success

Honestly, I wouldn't mind being on Linux if it wasn't a pain in the ass to manage. Drivers still haven't gotten better, support is lackluster from closed-source devs like Adobe because they don't want to open some of their source for people to check/make fixes on, etc.

If Linux was released before Windows 3.1 launched for Businesses? I could see a case, but the horse was already out of the barn by the time Linux came around.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Human Snorenado on June 05, 2016, 02:34:48 PM
Quote from: thisismyusername on June 04, 2016, 04:15:49 PM
Quote from: Tasty Meat on June 02, 2016, 02:54:25 PM
The issue is that the Steam client has always been a piece of shit, the controller was too weird, and the branding/marketing was muddled at best.

Hmm actually this sounds like a list of the Wii U's problems (replace Steam with the system's OS.) :P

Steam client has nothing to do with Linux flopping. Linux flopping is due to Nobody but Valve and a certain hardcore segment wanting Linux. You can't get Ubisoft, EA, or Activision titles on the OS. Capcom is slowly getting there (whenever SF5 launches on it? :doge :doge :doge :doge :doge :doge :doge :doge :doge :doge :doge :doge  :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :doge ), but other Japanese publishers and niche ones like NISA aren't there.

So... why would you go Linux when 80-95% of your Steam library isn't there?

You're talking to Fandrex. Logic doesn't enter into it when he can take an opportunity to further identify with one of his chosen tribes.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Tasty on June 05, 2016, 05:15:01 PM
Quote from: Human Snorenado on June 05, 2016, 02:34:48 PM
Quote from: thisismyusername on June 04, 2016, 04:15:49 PM
Quote from: Tasty Meat on June 02, 2016, 02:54:25 PM
The issue is that the Steam client has always been a piece of shit, the controller was too weird, and the branding/marketing was muddled at best.

Hmm actually this sounds like a list of the Wii U's problems (replace Steam with the system's OS.) :P

Steam client has nothing to do with Linux flopping. Linux flopping is due to Nobody but Valve and a certain hardcore segment wanting Linux. You can't get Ubisoft, EA, or Activision titles on the OS. Capcom is slowly getting there (whenever SF5 launches on it? :doge :doge :doge :doge :doge :doge :doge :doge :doge :doge :doge :doge  :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :doge ), but other Japanese publishers and niche ones like NISA aren't there.

So... why would you go Linux when 80-95% of your Steam library isn't there?

You're talking to Fandrex. Logic doesn't enter into it when he can take an opportunity to further identify with one of his chosen tribes.

:confused

Reading comprehension, how does it work
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Take My Breh Away on June 09, 2016, 06:20:54 PM
Sony took May but are refusing to put out a statement again. "Under 213K" is the current number for PS4's sold in the NPD thread. No software over 1 million either. UC4 took it in the end.

http://venturebeat.com/2016/06/09/may-2016-npd-uncharted-finds-its-fortune-ahead-of-doom-overwatch/

Uncharted 4: A Thief’s End (PS4)
Doom (PS4, Xbox One, PC)
Overwatch (PS4, Xbox One, PC)
Battleborn (PS4, Xbox One, PC)
Grand Theft Auto V (PS4, Xbox One, 360, PS3, PC)
Minecraft (PS4, Xbox One, 360, PS3)
NBA 2K16 (PS4, Xbox One, 360, PS3)
Call of Duty: Black Ops III (Xbox One, PS4, 360, PS3, PC)
MLB 16: The Show (PS4, PS3)
Dark Souls III (PS4, Xbox One)


Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: archie4208 on June 09, 2016, 06:35:05 PM
May NPD

1. Uncharted 4: A Thief’s End (PS4)
2. Doom (PS4, Xbox One, PC)
3. Overwatch (PS4, Xbox One, PC)
4. Battleborn (PS4, Xbox One, PC)
5. Grand Theft Auto V (PS4, Xbox One, 360, PS3, PC)
6. Minecraft (PS4, Xbox One, 360, PS3)
7. NBA 2K16 (PS4, Xbox One, 360, PS3)
8. Call of Duty: Black Ops III (Xbox One, PS4, 360, PS3, PC)
9. MLB 16: The Show (PS4, PS3)
10. Dark Souls III (PS4, Xbox One)

Legit surprised Doom did so well.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Bebpo on June 09, 2016, 06:36:39 PM
Uncharted numbers seem fine.  We know first week was 2.3 million WW (which included digital sales).  Game will probably do about the same as Uncharted 3, which is around 10 million LTD.  Doesn't really matter though, Uncharted's over and it was always a mid-sized franchise.

Bigger surprise was Doom outselling Overwatch with physical copies. 

...but then again Blizzard and digital.


Honestly, every year NPD is getting more and more useless as digital sales are taking over.  I thought Ubisoft or someone said the ratio had already gone up to like 50%.  So basically sales can be 2x what NPD shows.  Would be nice if NPD tracked digital sales from the platform owner stores and combined them with physical sales to stay relevant.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Positive Touch on June 09, 2016, 06:37:54 PM
battleborn at 4? everyone acted like the game sold all of 6 copies

also i hope doom has some moderate traction bc it's been getting so much great press
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Great Rumbler on June 09, 2016, 09:14:39 PM
Good on id. They made a legit great game and are getting rewarded for it.

And there's the real possibility that Doom bombing would have been the end of id, so it being successful should convince Bethesda to keep them around for a least a while longer.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: benjipwns on June 09, 2016, 09:20:17 PM
Bethesda seems like an alright publisher, I had some concerns when they started gobbling up companies and such but they seem to more or less let the teams do their own thing. Like id bringing in Crytek's engine guy even though id tech isn't going to be licensed anymore. And giving them the time to restart and redo Doom from scratch and do it in the way they did.

Now if only they took every single person in the entire company and forced them into 180 hour work weeks to create Human Head's vision of Prey 2.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Great Rumbler on June 09, 2016, 09:37:42 PM
Quote from: benjipwns on June 09, 2016, 09:20:17 PM
Now if only they took every single person in the entire company and forced them into 180 hour work weeks to create Human Head's vision of Prey 2.

:tocry
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: thisismyusername on June 09, 2016, 10:09:36 PM
Quote from: Positive Touch on June 09, 2016, 06:37:54 PM
battleborn at 4? everyone acted like the game sold all of 6 copies

No sales numbers. I wanna see the receipts.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Tasty on June 09, 2016, 11:09:37 PM
Not a single Wii U SKU on the top 10, RIP.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on June 10, 2016, 12:04:14 AM
Thanks to Aquamarine on the gamrconnect forums.

PS4 Hardware:
May 2016 NPD: 207,300 (+35.8% from last May)

XBO Hardware:
May 2016 NPD: 107,100 (-23.3% from last May)

WIU Hardware:
May 2016 NPD: 25,300 (-40.7% from last May)

360 Hardware:
May 2016 NPD: 11,900 (-53.5% from last May)

PS3 Hardware:
May 2016 NPD: 10,700 (-44.5% from last May)
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Joe Molotov on June 10, 2016, 12:05:51 AM
Where's Vita, tho?
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on June 10, 2016, 12:45:53 AM
YTD 2016 vs 2015

PS4
2015: 1.188m
2016: 1.347m (+13%)

XB1
2015: 981k
2016: 896k (-9%)

Wii U
2015: 326k
2016: 233k (-29%)
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: thisismyusername on June 10, 2016, 12:48:38 AM
Quote from: Premium Lager on June 10, 2016, 12:04:14 AM
Thanks to Aquamarine on the gamrconnect forums.

But where is Battleborn's numbers!? I want to know how badly the sales for software are since I want to know if the narrative of that being a complete bomb is right. :lol
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on June 10, 2016, 01:49:59 AM
it didnt chart in the uk I think
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: benjipwns on June 10, 2016, 02:59:21 AM
This was from a few weeks ago, but the game apparently tanked in players on Steam at roughly the same time so it might have made everything up front and has no legs:
http://www.videogamer.com/ps4/battleborn/news/battleborn_sales_tracking_just_ahead_of_original_borderlands_gearbox_cautiously_optimistic.html
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Sales of Gearbox's online shooter Battleborn are "tracking just ahead" of the original Borderlands, creative director Randy Varnell has revealed, describing the game's launch as being "pretty good".

Speaking on Twitch, Varnell said that the studio is feeling "cautiously optimistic" about the game's future, before adding: "The launch has been pretty good. We do a lot of comparisons back to the first Borderlands back in 2009 and that launch felt a lot similar for us.

"Ultimately Borderlands [was an] extremely successful new game for us, and even Borderlands 1 went on to sell, I think, almost 7, 8 million units in its lifetime," he said. "Battleborn is actually tracking just ahead of where Borderlands was on the sales, and we think it's going to be a game that is going to work like that. A decent, solid launch. We're seeing steady and growing user counts on all three platforms, and hoping that word of mouth is going to take us even further."

Battleborn debuted at No.1 in the UK All-Formats Charts following its release last week, although sales figures for the game have not been revealed by 2K. The original Borderlands, meanwhile, sold over 2 million units worldwide within its first two months of launch.

EDIT: Evolve was the title I was trying to think of that had something similar happen. IIRC, it did really well out of the gate, now it had 177 total players today on Steam.
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Post by: benjipwns on June 10, 2016, 03:02:36 AM
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Evolve cannot be played in the following countries: Burma, Cuba, Iran, Democratic People's Republic of Korea, Sudan, Syrian Arab Republic, Bolivarian Republic of Venezuela
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Kara on June 10, 2016, 03:20:07 AM
I can't in good conscience play a game forbidden in so many workers' states.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: benjipwns on June 10, 2016, 03:24:24 AM
Probably because there's no Red Star OS compatible version, Windows only.  :wag
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Post by: Cerveza mas fina on June 10, 2016, 04:15:28 AM
Ok this is what Battleborn did in the UK:

Week 1 - nr 3/4 PS4/XB1
Week 2 - nr 22/25 (this is hundreds of units only already I presume)
Week 3 - nr 40
Week 4 - nr 33/39
Week 5 - uncharted

It charted in France for 1 week, but not in Germany, Italy, Spain etc.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Take My Breh Away on June 10, 2016, 07:29:32 AM
Quote from: Bebpo on June 09, 2016, 06:36:39 PM
Uncharted numbers seem fine.  We know first week was 2.3 million WW (which included digital sales).  Game will probably do about the same as Uncharted 3, which is around 10 million LTD.  Doesn't really matter though, Uncharted's over and it was always a mid-sized franchise.

Bigger surprise was Doom outselling Overwatch with physical copies. 

...but then again Blizzard and digital.


Honestly, every year NPD is getting more and more useless as digital sales are taking over.  I thought Ubisoft or someone said the ratio had already gone up to like 50%.  So basically sales can be 2x what NPD shows.  Would be nice if NPD tracked digital sales from the platform owner stores and combined them with physical sales to stay relevant.

I think Sony would have expected better with U4 and console sales with the massive push they ran for it. It seems the first month numbers were very close to Doom and Overwatch while numbers came in slightly under or around Halo 5 according to cosmicqueso on gaf. Mario Kart 8 is going to take the record for the biggest selling exclusive debut this gen since that did 1.1 million on NPD (In just three days, even). Likely why they are quiet on PR. There's not much to spin as Bloodborne moved more console units than U4 did and sales weren't exceptional, just about average for a console exclusive this gen and tracking the same as Halo 5 did. And if you start including digital, Overwatch stomped a massive hole in everything this month.

I think the bigger take is that companies are going to seriously re-evaluate exclusives because they are nowhere near the value proposition they once were. Halo 5 and Uncharted 4 failing to move console units is a huge, colossal fuck up and companies need to have a major, major rethink.     
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on June 10, 2016, 07:48:22 AM
Maybe Halo failed but PS4 is at 40 million and counting.

 :smug
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Take My Breh Away on June 10, 2016, 07:51:00 AM
Quote from: Premium Lager on June 10, 2016, 07:48:22 AM
Maybe Halo failed but PS4 is at 40 million and counting.

The seven titles in the attach rate is FIFA 14, FIFA 15, FIFA 16, Destiny, COD Ghosts, COD AW and COD Black Ops 3 :doge
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: archie4208 on June 10, 2016, 12:49:45 PM
http://i.imgur.com/fCbD5kD.png

Nintendo had a good run.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Positive Touch on June 10, 2016, 12:57:17 PM
wait... i didn't even realize that doom outsold fucking overwatch, even with the giant amount of hype behind ov. this warms my crusty clotted heart.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Kara on June 10, 2016, 02:10:50 PM
It probably didn't, digital purchases aren't included.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Positive Touch on June 10, 2016, 03:09:52 PM
ah yeah forgot about that; o well
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Trent Dole on June 10, 2016, 03:10:44 PM
Doom and Overwatch both seem to be primarily PC oriented titles and thus I'd wager both of them have a pretty significant chunk of their sales via digital.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: archie4208 on June 10, 2016, 04:16:34 PM
Doom sold 586k on PC (every copy has to be activated on Steam and it has Denuvo protection which hasn't been cracked yet so piracy is a non issue).

Overwatch probably sold several million copies because it's a fuckin Blizzard game.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Bebpo on June 10, 2016, 06:36:41 PM
Quote from: archie4208 on June 10, 2016, 04:16:34 PM
Doom sold 586k on PC (every copy has to be activated on Steam and it has Denuvo protection which hasn't been cracked yet so piracy is a non issue).

Overwatch probably sold several million copies because it's a fuckin Blizzard game.

Didn't Blizzard put out a PR that 7 million copies of Overwatch were sold in the first week or two?
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: archie4208 on June 10, 2016, 07:36:31 PM
Blizzard said 7 million players which would include shared accounts, rentals, and Korean PC bang users (which is a major portion of the population as Overwatch is the #2 game in South Korea and is nipping at League of Legends's heels).
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Third on June 11, 2016, 06:57:16 AM
Is Xbox dead yet?

May NDP seems to indicate so. Poor MS
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Trent Dole on June 11, 2016, 04:10:47 PM
Fuck the hell off you mindless corporate cocksucking piece of shit. :gun
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on June 12, 2016, 08:00:18 AM
Quote from: archie4208 on June 10, 2016, 12:49:45 PM
http://i.imgur.com/fCbD5kD.png

Nintendo had a good run.

Nintendo's audience used to be children and manchildren.  Now that children are playing on tablets and smartphones, that just leaves the manchildren.  Little wonder why Nintendo is keeping the NX a secret: they're probably still trying to figure out how to capture lightning in a bottle again and find a way to recapture their lost audiences.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Kara on June 12, 2016, 10:36:15 AM
Aquamarine still jeopardizing her Wall Street job for video games I see.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Yulwei on June 12, 2016, 02:28:19 PM
Quote from: archie4208 on June 10, 2016, 12:49:45 PM
http://i.imgur.com/fCbD5kD.png

Nintendo had a good run.

Damn that's crazy. I honestly hope the NX does well for Nintendo. It would be a big blow to gaming if they went out of business
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Positive Touch on June 12, 2016, 03:11:09 PM
nintendo not going out of business lol. even if they decide it's not profitable to make systems anymore, they still have plenty of money to make more games. it'll be a long time before Mario (and his associated merchandise) becomes unprofitable.

also using star fox as a metric for success is lol. when's the last time they made a good star fox, let alone one that sold well?
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Take My Breh Away on June 13, 2016, 05:46:43 AM
Quote from: Positive Touch on June 12, 2016, 03:11:09 PM
nintendo not going out of business lol. even if they decide it's not profitable to make systems anymore, they still have plenty of money to make more games. it'll be a long time before Mario (and his associated merchandise) becomes unprofitable.

also using star fox as a metric for success is lol. when's the last time they made a good star fox, let alone one that sold well?

Ninthings have this idealistic vision of hard man Yamauchi saying he will "Never sell Nintendo" and the IP's would go down with the ship if Nintendo ever went down. Even though Yamauchi had to take a vacation to think because Bill Gates offered to buy Nintendo for a ridiculous amount in 2000 or so. He genuinely did think about selling up because N64 didn't perform to the standard of the SNES and GC was an expensive gamble (That Nintendo lost hugely on in both marketshare and mindshare) but decided to decline in the end. Then he was forced to resign in 2003 because of a massive EU anti-trust scandal so that gen really sucked for him.

If Nintendo did have financial trouble and NX was a bust. They would have a plan B and either go third party or let Tencent or Microsoft swoop in on them. It's been that way since the 90's.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: archie4208 on June 16, 2016, 10:15:07 AM
While not exactly related to video game sales as we know it, Overwatch has surpassed League of Legends as the top played game in South Korea (https://twitter.com/ggDoA/status/743325191304949760).  LoL was the top dog for nearly 4 years straight and constantly had >40% market share.  To see any game get close to it, much less surpass it, is a big deal.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on June 17, 2016, 03:31:08 AM
Do these places have some license fee or?
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: archie4208 on June 17, 2016, 06:58:43 AM
Yeah.  Blizzard, Riot, Nexon etc charge licensing fees to PC Bangs in exchange for perks in their games (bonus EXP, all characters unlocked, etc).
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Kara on June 17, 2016, 11:01:23 AM
I'd enjoy the coming end of WE IZ MAJOR LEAGUE OK but Dota 2 is an even worse Team Fortress 2 at this point.

HoN won. #HoNderful
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Purple Filth on June 18, 2016, 01:12:35 PM
Quote from: Kara on June 12, 2016, 10:36:15 AM
Aquamarine still jeopardizing her Wall Street job for video games I see.

Even going as far by being on VGchartz for that attention  :lol
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: thisismyusername on July 28, 2016, 11:50:19 AM
Less than 100k copies of Street Fighter V were shipped from April to June (http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1254126)

(http://i.imgur.com/y1X0MVp.gif)

"BUT WAIT FOR EVO! SURELY THAT'LL BRING PLAYERS BACK/NEW PLAYERS WILL BUY!" -GAF.

Excuse me while I:
:neogaf :neogaf :neogaf :neogaf :neogaf :neogaf :neogaf :neogaf :neogaf :neogaf :neogaf :neogaf :neogaf :neogaf :neogaf :neogaf :neogaf :neogaf :neogaf :neogaf :neogaf :neogaf :neogaf :neogaf :neogaf :neogaf :neogaf :neogaf :neogaf :neogaf :neogaf :neogaf :neogaf :neogaf :neogaf :neogaf :neogaf :neogaf :neogaf :neogaf :neogaf :neogaf :neogaf :neogaf :neogaf :neogaf :neogaf :neogaf :neogaf :neogaf :neogaf :neogaf :neogaf :neogaf :neogaf :neogaf :neogaf :neogaf :neogaf :neogaf :neogaf :neogaf :neogaf :neogaf :neogaf :neogaf :neogaf :neogaf :neogaf :neogaf :neogaf :neogaf :neogaf :neogaf :neogaf  :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :neogaf :neogaf :neogaf :neogaf :neogaf :neogaf :neogaf :neogaf :neogaf :neogaf :neogaf :neogaf :neogaf :neogaf

Oh. That was rich. But seriously: Capcom has to be shitting themselves since this means they badly mismanaged their estimates (2million by the end of March/launch month). And yes, I know Evo was this month. But the point remains: It's not going to bring new players in if there is no demand past the launch month. Capcom has to essentially "reboot" the game by adding in things that were missing from the "vanilla" launch in an attempt to get peoples minds off the disastrous launch. Evo's showing isn't going to fix that.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: qq more on July 28, 2016, 12:14:10 PM
The "EVO WILL SAVE THE GAME" always had me. Most people who were interested in SFV for competitive play has already gotten the game. Most people who skipped out are the casual players, EVO wouldn't do shit for them.

It's like when some GAFers think Brawl sold 500k last year solely because of Project M  :lol
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Tasty on July 28, 2016, 01:57:14 PM
Super Street Fighter 5 incoming :neogaf
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: mormapope on July 28, 2016, 03:21:48 PM
Quote from: Tasty Meat on July 28, 2016, 01:57:14 PM
Super Street Fighter 5 incoming :neogaf

Wonder if there would be an Xbone and NX version.

Cross platform play across all platforms would drastically help with player population, but I remember hearing how busted PS4/PC crossplay was at launch.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: benjipwns on July 28, 2016, 03:27:43 PM
It's not the same without the Playstation Experience fully integrated. The PC version compromised the dream enough already.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: thisismyusername on July 28, 2016, 06:56:51 PM
Quote from: mormapope on July 28, 2016, 03:21:48 PM
Quote from: Tasty Meat on July 28, 2016, 01:57:14 PM
Super Street Fighter 5 incoming :neogaf

Wonder if there would be an Xbone and NX version.

Cross platform play across all platforms would drastically help with player population, but I remember hearing how busted PS4/PC crossplay was at launch.

It's still busted. They haven't fixed the alt-tab host-advantage problem. :neogaf Capcom :neogaf
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Vertigo on July 28, 2016, 07:48:59 PM
Quote from: mormapope on July 28, 2016, 03:21:48 PM
Quote from: Tasty Meat on July 28, 2016, 01:57:14 PM
Super Street Fighter 5 incoming :neogaf

Wonder if there would be an Xbone and NX version.

Cross platform play across all platforms would drastically help with player population, but I remember hearing how busted PS4/PC crossplay was at launch.

If Capcom does that the passive aggressive threads on Gaf will be a treat.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: thisismyusername on July 28, 2016, 09:21:00 PM
I don't think most of the Street Fighter 5 thread posters would care too much. Outside of losing the "but Sony paid for it!" defense for the piss-poor state that Capcom has the game in still. The only way I can see Capcom saving it isn't F2P (though that may help somewhat) it's simply doing away with the whole "game as a service" goal they had. It's apparent about 5-6 months later that plan simply isn't coming to fruition. Zenny/real money microtransactions was dropped. The daily fight money still isn't here. Online Battle Rooms are still a mess last I heard. I dropped the game shortly after launch, so I wouldn't know the state of those. Though I've heard connections are somewhat better but the matchmaking is still a complete crap-shoot on actual connections.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on August 12, 2016, 04:49:06 AM
xbox took july in us.

did the slim launch or something?
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Post by: Take My Breh Away on August 12, 2016, 07:25:47 AM
Quote from: Premium Lager on August 12, 2016, 04:49:06 AM
xbox took july in us.

did the slim launch or something?

Aggressive price cuts and bundles on the huge bone. Slim is August.

Minecraft was the biggest selling game even when including digital copies of everything else so a slow month overall, anyway.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on September 16, 2016, 03:34:07 AM
Bit late but Xbox took August as well in the US.

That Slim effect.

Wouldn't be surprised if it takes September as well now. Wonder what the margins are.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: archie4208 on October 14, 2016, 09:42:44 PM
Someone in Twitter leaked some September NPD numbers (https://twitter.com/astronautclaire)

1. NBA (1.3mil)
2. Madden (727k w/o bundles, 788k with)
3. FIFA (444k)

Forza Horizon 3 (150k w/ 5 days tracking)
GTA V (152k)
Uncharted 4 (100k, most w/ PS Sim bundle)
WoW legion (>100k)
Overwatch (82k, >1 million physical console sales)

No Man's Sky (50k, nearly 90% drop :rofl)
ReCore (<50k)
DQ7 (35k)
YoKai Watch 2 (35k)
Xcom 2 (<25k)

PS3 (40k) > Wii U (36k) :rofl
PS4 (285k)
Xbone (332k)
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: thisismyusername on October 14, 2016, 11:14:18 PM
X-com 2 being the console port right? Damn, that's a drop from the first isn't it?
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: thisismyusername on October 15, 2016, 12:18:22 AM
Quote from: Kaffir The Reaper on October 14, 2016, 11:52:37 PM
the first didn't even do 8K on consoles IIRC.

Wow, seriously? I guess GAF gave me a reality distortion field on that being a successful console port of them.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on October 15, 2016, 01:47:48 AM
Maybe it sold well digital? Also it seems the type of game that would do well in Europe
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Post by: VomKriege on October 15, 2016, 05:41:47 AM
I think it was more than that but there's no question it sold way, way less than on PC. There's a reason why 2 was PC exclusive for so long...
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: archie4208 on October 15, 2016, 07:13:51 AM
PC version has sold ~1 million so far (http://steamspy.com/app/268500)
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: tiesto on October 15, 2016, 11:50:59 AM
DQ7 so low  :'(
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: archie4208 on October 15, 2016, 12:11:08 PM
Just means I can flip DQ7 for even more money in a few years.  :drool
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Positive Touch on October 15, 2016, 01:00:26 PM
does this mean we can stop saying "maybe x will be the game that finally brings dq into the mainstream!" and just admit that it's niche in the West
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Post by: Trent Dole on October 15, 2016, 06:39:50 PM
Well a port of an old game on a system on its way out the door is not going to blow the doors off the charts and anyone who thought it would is delusional.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Tasty on October 15, 2016, 08:00:57 PM
Quote from: tiesto on October 15, 2016, 11:50:59 AM
DQ7 so low  :'(

Remake of a Japanese-focused game on a dying system. Unsurprised. At the very least they have the new script they can use in further ports and remakes.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Tasty on October 15, 2016, 08:02:23 PM
Quote from: Positive Touch on October 15, 2016, 01:00:26 PM
does this mean we can stop saying "maybe x will be the game that finally brings dq into the mainstream!" and just admit that it's niche in the West

Mainline entries do pretty well. Remakes and spin-offs much less so.

Same thing with Pokemon, just on a smaller scale.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: thisismyusername on October 27, 2016, 04:43:55 PM
Previously on "Street Fighter 5 is a gigantic failure...":

Quote from: thisismyusername on July 28, 2016, 11:50:19 AM
Less than 100k copies of Street Fighter V were shipped from April to June (http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1254126)

(http://i.imgur.com/y1X0MVp.gif)

Let's extend that from April to September now! (http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1301499) (Including Digital Sales!)

(http://i.imgur.com/y1X0MVp.gif) (http://i.imgur.com/y1X0MVp.gif) (http://i.imgur.com/y1X0MVp.gif)

Street Fighter 5 is done-zo. Absolutely nothing they can do beyond making it F2P and giving people that bought their Alpha version free content for the life of the product will help at this point.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Trent Dole on October 27, 2016, 11:11:12 PM
I've seen one of my fighter loving buds playing various versions of SFIV recently so I suppose there you have it. :lol I'd say RIP but since it was never a full fucking game to begin with you can't really say it's dead.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Take My Breh Away on October 28, 2016, 06:50:19 AM
There was a rumor in FGC circles that Sony were dropping sponsorship of the Capcom Pro Tour next year because the game's just been an absolute disaster for them (Didn't they supposedly pay a "Comical" amount of money for the exclusivity? Remember someone with knowledge of the subject said sometime before launch that Sony was throwing around stupid money for 3rd party deals like SF V and No Man's Sky and paid twice as much as MS did for the COD Maps). Supposedly Capcom is either trying to get a big peripheral manufacturer like Razer or PDP to front part of next years pot or they are not going to bother with a pro tour at all because it turned out most people were just playing it for the pot and Japanese players referred to it as more like a job than a game they enjoyed.

God what a disaster. Especially since MK X pulled in 8 million at last count for it's retail version. In the F2P space, Killer Instinct pulled in over 7 million with a big buy through on its DLC content (And people thought MS were high for turning down SF V). Even DOA 5 Last Round pulled in 4 million and that has a huge amount of buy through on it's DLC. Fighting games are not dead but the way Capcom fucked up SF V is absolutely nuts.
 

Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Tasty on October 28, 2016, 02:08:10 PM
I'd bet money that more people bought the Smash 4 Ryu DLC than SFV lololol
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Bebpo on October 28, 2016, 07:34:03 PM
Quote from: Take My Breh Away on October 28, 2016, 06:50:19 AM
There was a rumor in FGC circles that Sony were dropping sponsorship of the Capcom Pro Tour next year because the game's just been an absolute disaster for them (Didn't they supposedly pay a "Comical" amount of money for the exclusivity? Remember someone with knowledge of the subject said sometime before launch that Sony was throwing around stupid money for 3rd party deals like SF V and No Man's Sky and paid twice as much as MS did for the COD Maps). Supposedly Capcom is either trying to get a big peripheral manufacturer like Razer or PDP to front part of next years pot or they are not going to bother with a pro tour at all because it turned out most people were just playing it for the pot and Japanese players referred to it as more like a job than a game they enjoyed.

God what a disaster. Especially since MK X pulled in 8 million at last count for it's retail version. In the F2P space, Killer Instinct pulled in over 7 million with a big buy through on its DLC content (And people thought MS were high for turning down SF V). Even DOA 5 Last Round pulled in 4 million and that has a huge amount of buy through on it's DLC. Fighting games are not dead but the way Capcom fucked up SF V is absolutely nuts.

Wow.  I never realized that the other fighters still sold that much.  Especially because as an Arc System Work fan my frame of reference is Guilty Gear/Blazblue selling 100-200k or something, so SFV still seemed ok.  But damn, compared to MKX SFV is dead.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: thisismyusername on October 28, 2016, 08:02:00 PM
Quote from: Take My Breh Away on October 28, 2016, 06:50:19 AM
There was a rumor in FGC circles that Sony were dropping sponsorship of the Capcom Pro Tour next year because the game's just been an absolute disaster for them (Didn't they supposedly pay a "Comical" amount of money for the exclusivity? Remember someone with knowledge of the subject said sometime before launch that Sony was throwing around stupid money for 3rd party deals like SF V and No Man's Sky and paid twice as much as MS did for the COD Maps). Supposedly Capcom is either trying to get a big peripheral manufacturer like Razer or PDP to front part of next years pot or they are not going to bother with a pro tour at all because it turned out most people were just playing it for the pot and Japanese players referred to it as more like a job than a game they enjoyed.

The only one that panned out on that is CoD, and that's in decline (slowly). I doubt most X-box owners give a shit about the DLC exclusivity, though. :idont Sony better be ponying up money to From to continue to pump out exclusive Souls at this point until people tire of that.

Quote from: Bebpo on October 28, 2016, 07:34:03 PM
Quote from: Take My Breh Away on October 28, 2016, 06:50:19 AM
There was a rumor in FGC circles that Sony were dropping sponsorship of the Capcom Pro Tour next year because the game's just been an absolute disaster for them (Didn't they supposedly pay a "Comical" amount of money for the exclusivity? Remember someone with knowledge of the subject said sometime before launch that Sony was throwing around stupid money for 3rd party deals like SF V and No Man's Sky and paid twice as much as MS did for the COD Maps). Supposedly Capcom is either trying to get a big peripheral manufacturer like Razer or PDP to front part of next years pot or they are not going to bother with a pro tour at all because it turned out most people were just playing it for the pot and Japanese players referred to it as more like a job than a game they enjoyed.

God what a disaster. Especially since MK X pulled in 8 million at last count for it's retail version. In the F2P space, Killer Instinct pulled in over 7 million with a big buy through on its DLC content (And people thought MS were high for turning down SF V). Even DOA 5 Last Round pulled in 4 million and that has a huge amount of buy through on it's DLC. Fighting games are not dead but the way Capcom fucked up SF V is absolutely nuts.

Wow.  I never realized that the other fighters still sold that much.  Especially because as an Arc System Work fan my frame of reference is Guilty Gear/Blazblue selling 100-200k or something, so SFV still seemed ok.  But damn, compared to MKX SFV is dead.

Animu is always niche. It's Tekken, MK, and SF for the "triad" of mainstream fighters. Maybe Marvel in the West, but Asia don't care (yet?).
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Take My Breh Away on October 30, 2016, 12:36:23 PM
Quote from: Bebpo on October 28, 2016, 07:34:03 PM
Quote from: Take My Breh Away on October 28, 2016, 06:50:19 AM
There was a rumor in FGC circles that Sony were dropping sponsorship of the Capcom Pro Tour next year because the game's just been an absolute disaster for them (Didn't they supposedly pay a "Comical" amount of money for the exclusivity? Remember someone with knowledge of the subject said sometime before launch that Sony was throwing around stupid money for 3rd party deals like SF V and No Man's Sky and paid twice as much as MS did for the COD Maps). Supposedly Capcom is either trying to get a big peripheral manufacturer like Razer or PDP to front part of next years pot or they are not going to bother with a pro tour at all because it turned out most people were just playing it for the pot and Japanese players referred to it as more like a job than a game they enjoyed.

God what a disaster. Especially since MK X pulled in 8 million at last count for it's retail version. In the F2P space, Killer Instinct pulled in over 7 million with a big buy through on its DLC content (And people thought MS were high for turning down SF V). Even DOA 5 Last Round pulled in 4 million and that has a huge amount of buy through on it's DLC. Fighting games are not dead but the way Capcom fucked up SF V is absolutely nuts.

Wow.  I never realized that the other fighters still sold that much.  Especially because as an Arc System Work fan my frame of reference is Guilty Gear/Blazblue selling 100-200k or something, so SFV still seemed ok.  But damn, compared to MKX SFV is dead.

It's still a really successful genre. I'd expect Tekken 7 to clear 3 million easily next year, especially now it's on Steam and likely coming to Switch as well (Since its an Unreal 4 game). MK X is just a sales beast because of the well done long term support. I'd imagine Injustice 2 will be the same, especially now they packed in loot crate monetization in that and NRS are continually improving their craft ever since WB bought them so there's little doubt it's going to be a great game (And it sounds like if there's a PC version, it's probably going to be handled by Q-LOC again which is good since they unfucked the PC version of MK X). I don't think anyone anticipated how well the F2P games would do as well (KI and DOA 5LR, you really have to buy some content to get a full experience so that works as well. And Tecmo was smart enough to put the really fetishy stuff behind a pay wall) 
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on October 31, 2016, 03:30:24 AM
I don't play fighting games so don't know about that, but history has shown that gamers will accept all kinds of shitty payment models if the gameplay is top notch.

Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: bork on October 31, 2016, 08:14:02 AM
Quote from: thisismyusername on October 27, 2016, 04:43:55 PM
Street Fighter 5 is done-zo. Absolutely nothing they can do beyond making it F2P and giving people that bought their Alpha version free content for the life of the product will help at this point.

It still sold more than 1.4 million copies and Capcom's making additional money on DLC.  Its sales seem to be in line with the last few Street Fighter releases.  Only vanilla SF4 sold a crapton more than the rest.

Capcom still lists it as a success since it did more than a million.

:idont

But that's what they get for releasing an unfinished product.  You have to wonder when they will learn...if ever.  They fucked up with Marvel 3 (releasing the Ultimate edition so quickly after the regular one), they fucked up with Street Fighter X Tekken (the gem DLC fiasco and 'DLC' characters being on the disc), and they certainly fucked up with this game.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: thisismyusername on October 31, 2016, 08:20:57 AM
Quote from: bork pls on October 31, 2016, 08:14:02 AM
Its sales seem to be in line with the last few Street Fighter releases.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1303379

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Ultra Street Fighter 4 - 767.000
Street Fighter V - 205.000
Street Fighter x Tekken - 129.000
Street Fighter IV - 104.000

I mean you could say that Ultra was put into Humble Bundles, but that's still an under performance of slightly beating the vanilla launch. PS4 release is probably slightly higher due to the community, but still pretty bad.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: bork on October 31, 2016, 08:37:37 AM
Total sales, not for a period of time.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: bork on October 31, 2016, 09:40:29 AM
Quote from: Kaffir The Reaper on October 30, 2016, 12:53:21 PM
The truth that a lot of SF5 fanboys don't want to face is the game is botched on many basic levels, is extremely barebones and the gameplay itself is good but not great.

Marketing was bad, but let's not act like word of mouth didn't help kill the game's sales.

I don't tend to check out discussion on technical issues with the game- are 'fanboys' really defending the game's issues?  Doesn't seem like it to me.  That said, we've had this same song and dance 1-2 times here already.  The game is not barebones and the game play is generally accepted as great.  It is still ridiculous that there's no arcade mode yet and they never bothered to fix survival mode, though.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Raist on November 01, 2016, 03:41:31 PM
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2016-11-01-nintendo-to-end-wii-u-production-this-week


What a fucking disaster.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Trent Dole on November 01, 2016, 03:51:26 PM
I didn't know they were still making them but since the Fred Meyer I was at the other day had a 'full' shelf with six of them on it this past weekend I guess they are supplying up for the holiday season. ???
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Take My Breh Away on November 01, 2016, 04:27:25 PM
Quote from: bork pls on October 31, 2016, 09:40:29 AM
Quote from: Kaffir The Reaper on October 30, 2016, 12:53:21 PM
The truth that a lot of SF5 fanboys don't want to face is the game is botched on many basic levels, is extremely barebones and the gameplay itself is good but not great.

Marketing was bad, but let's not act like word of mouth didn't help kill the game's sales.

I don't tend to check out discussion on technical issues with the game- are 'fanboys' really defending the game's issues?  Doesn't seem like it to me.  That said, we've had this same song and dance 1-2 times here already.  The game is not barebones and the game play is generally accepted as great.  It is still ridiculous that there's no arcade mode yet and they never bothered to fix survival mode, though.

It's turned into such a running joke between shitposters and the defense squad that there are bingo cards for it.

(http://i.imgur.com/Jsh76a6.png) (http://i.imgur.com/hsLJICv.jpg)

Overall. Capcom fucked up by not reacting, Didn't drop price enough and kept expecting a sales "Bump" from Story Mode/Evo on ESPN that never came, instead of getting aggressive. And no doubt it lost players due to the botched updates and the CFN outages. It is what it is, now and Capcom has to live with their shitty decision making.
:yeshrug
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: archie4208 on November 01, 2016, 08:07:47 PM
http://steamspy.com/app/289070

Civ 6 broke 1 million copies sold in less than 2 weeks.  :rock
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: archnemesis on November 02, 2016, 04:23:51 AM
Well deserved.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: a slime appears on November 04, 2016, 08:31:13 AM
I like that DOOM, a game that came out later and from a completely different genre, managed to put in Arcade Mode before SFV. :rofl

At least SFV's MP has a bigger community. :'(
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: tiesto on November 04, 2016, 10:52:01 AM
Haven't bought SF5 yet (I'm still holding out hopes there'll be a Championship Edition with all the DLC in there and then some), but was over my friend's house and played it for a bit... it's decent but when we immediately played KOFXIV it's like night and day. KOF is just so much smoother, with a larger character roster.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Take My Breh Away on November 21, 2016, 06:15:28 PM
Titanfall 2 bombed. Skylanders bombed. Rise Of The Tomb Raider on PS4 bombed spectacularly (Doing significantly worse than the Xbone version, if a thing like that was possible). Watch_Dogs 2 bombed. Dishonored 2 bombed. WWE 2K17 bombed. Gears 4 and Mafia 3 did OK. Only Battlefield 1, NBA 17 and FIFA 17 did well in October.

Who the fuck is running this insane industry?
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Great Rumbler on November 21, 2016, 06:20:17 PM
Dishonored 2 has sold about 250k on Steam.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: thisismyusername on November 21, 2016, 07:15:06 PM
Quote from: Take My Breh Away on November 21, 2016, 06:15:28 PM
Who the fuck is running this insane industry?

I don't necessarily want to pin it 100% on the industry. You have economic issues (British Exit, Trump coming in) being a forefront with a possible depression happening in America soon again (as crazy as that sounds). A lot of folks are struggling and new IP's aren't gonna do well as most of the console/PC fanbase are in their 20-30's now and either have full-time jobs or game with friends so they pick up the same thing (Overwatch, BF) over single-player stuff (I feel FF is gonna underperform S-E's expectations).

But some of it is squarely on them pumping thousands of titles into the holiday season when most folks can't afford that.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Positive Touch on November 21, 2016, 07:38:26 PM
there's a shitload of good games all dropping at once. some are gonna get lost in the shuffle.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: archie4208 on November 21, 2016, 09:04:45 PM
Quote from: Take My Breh Away on November 21, 2016, 06:15:28 PM
Titanfall 2 bombed. Skylanders bombed. Rise Of The Tomb Raider on PS4 bombed spectacularly (Doing significantly worse than the Xbone version, if a thing like that was possible). Watch_Dogs 2 bombed. Dishonored 2 bombed. WWE 2K17 bombed. Gears 4 and Mafia 3 did OK. Only Battlefield 1, NBA 17 and FIFA 17 did well in October.

Who the fuck is running this insane industry?

Mobile publishers.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Himu on November 21, 2016, 09:11:14 PM
Quote from: Take My Breh Away on November 21, 2016, 06:15:28 PM
Titanfall 2 bombed. Skylanders bombed. Rise Of The Tomb Raider on PS4 bombed spectacularly (Doing significantly worse than the Xbone version, if a thing like that was possible). Watch_Dogs 2 bombed. Dishonored 2 bombed. WWE 2K17 bombed. Gears 4 and Mafia 3 did OK. Only Battlefield 1, NBA 17 and FIFA 17 did well in October.

Who the fuck is running this insane industry?

Oscar was right.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Tasty on November 22, 2016, 11:26:23 AM
Quote from: Take My Breh Away on November 21, 2016, 06:15:28 PM
Who the fuck is running this insane industry?

People aren't buying games as much anymore. Casuals are gone and the already-untenable AAA industry is bleeding on razor thin margins.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: eleuin on November 22, 2016, 12:41:32 PM
too bad there isn't a 4 month period before the holidays where nothing is being released
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on November 22, 2016, 01:41:52 PM
Sad if tomb raider bombed, game was great

Pretty sure Mean Streets of Gadzgetan will do great though :rock
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on November 22, 2016, 02:12:40 PM
Quote from: Tasty Meat on November 22, 2016, 11:26:23 AM
Quote from: Take My Breh Away on November 21, 2016, 06:15:28 PM
Who the fuck is running this insane industry?

People aren't buying games as much anymore. Casuals are gone and the already-untenable AAA industry is bleeding on razor thin margins.

Wrong

people are spending more on less games Im pretty sure
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Tasty on November 22, 2016, 02:45:20 PM
Quote from: Premium Lager on November 22, 2016, 02:12:40 PM
Quote from: Tasty Meat on November 22, 2016, 11:26:23 AM
Quote from: Take My Breh Away on November 21, 2016, 06:15:28 PM
Who the fuck is running this insane industry?

People aren't buying games as much anymore. Casuals are gone and the already-untenable AAA industry is bleeding on razor thin margins.

Wrong

people are spending more on less games Im pretty sure

So you agree with my post? :dunno
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Take My Breh Away on November 22, 2016, 04:33:02 PM
Quote from: Tasty Meat on November 22, 2016, 11:26:23 AM
Quote from: Take My Breh Away on November 21, 2016, 06:15:28 PM
Who the fuck is running this insane industry?

People aren't buying games as much anymore. Casuals are gone and the already-untenable AAA industry is bleeding on razor thin margins.

Nah, Casuals are still here. They are just buying less titles. NBA 2K17, Madden NFL 17 and FIFA 17 all did huge and it's FIFA's biggest ever year in the US (Also Pro Evo is fucking dead) while Minecraft and GTA V are still hanging around. They just don't buy except for those safe bets and maybe one or two of the big new IP's like Destiny and Overwatch or one of the AAA franchises that has actually had some polish and thought into it like Mortal Kombat X. They are spending but they are just satisfied with two or three releases a year and content to spend on that.

AAA needs a massive rethink. 
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Huff on November 28, 2016, 12:10:43 AM
I haven't played a vidya this year that wasn't on my phone #partoftheproblem

Although I did buy a couple PC games that I won't ever play
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Joe Molotov on November 28, 2016, 12:17:17 AM
I picked up Dishonored 2 and Deus Ex Mankind Divided this week for $25. Keep sending your multi-million dollar AAA titles to die, publishers. :rejoice
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: MMaRsu on November 28, 2016, 04:57:55 PM
https://t.co/ymfImtz7Q4

Shadow of Mordor GOTY ( steam key but have 2 buy through uplay ) 1$.70 cents
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Mupepe on December 03, 2016, 07:57:26 PM
Outside of usually one, maybe two games per year I only buy when they're at least 50% off.  This is the first time I didn't buy a Forza game at launch.  Most of my friends are the same way.  $10 - $20 is usually the sweet spot for me to pick up a game as sad as it sounds.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Bebpo on December 07, 2016, 02:08:07 PM
Ok, so FFXV tanked in Japan as expected.  650-700k opening sales down down from like 1.3-1.5 million FFXIII opening down from like 2-3 million opening at FF primes.  For reference, 650k opening is FFXIII-2 level.  If you count FFXIII-2 as a real FF game like X-2 (I sorta do), then this is just sorta par for course decline. 

Reasons are a million and gaf has a whole fight on what's behind it.  XV's still the highest selling PS4 game in Japan fwiw, but if the series declines any further it's in trouble. 

My personal thoughts on things that contributed towards FF's decline in Japan:

-No steady flow of mainline titles to keep brand awareness of the last decade.
-LR & XV both being non-traditional jrpgs.  While the west is over turn-based dungeon/town/cutscenes rpgs, Japan is still resistant to change.  Pokemon, Persona, DQ still sell well in Japan and all 3 follow traditional jrpg structure.
-Japanese tastes have changed over the years, Japan likes cute girls and social links
-open world rpgs are still fairly niche in Japan.  Xenoblade X also did abysmal sales and suffered from a lot of the same flaws as FFXV it seems showing Japanese developers are having trouble working a traditional jrpg heavy narrative into an open world structure.
-XIII/XIII-2/LR all being less than amazing probably didn't help (although I thought XIII-2 was a lot of fun personally; haven't played LR)
-PS4 sales are still not super strong.  Persona 5 did 550k opening which was great, but a bunch of that was PS3 sales.  PS4 only titles aren't struggling but are definitely down.  A PS3 version of XV would've helped some.
-Also XIII wasn't released digitally and digital sales have been growing in Japan.  My guess out of nowhere for Japanese digital sales ratio on mainstream titles is probably around 10-20%, so maybe add another 100k which doesn't really change anything.
-XV demos probably didn't leave a great impression
-Games are too fucking expensive.  I hardly see anyone talk about this, but when your games are $90+ it effects a lot of people.  This is one reason imo why F2P mobile stuff is booming in Japan.  The economy still is weak over there, people can't find jobs and live with their parents, and you're asking people to spend $90 on a game that might be crap?  I think this also has some effect on the stronger handheld market in Japan since handheld games are typically about 2/3rds the price of console games.  I really think there needs to be some discussion at some point about full price games in the industry and F2P isn't the alternative.  Ratchet & Clank PS4 did well at $40, The Last Guardian would've probably done well at $40, at $60 I have a feeling TLG is going to tank.

Probably missed some stuff, but those are all my thoughts on what happened.  I haven't played XV yet, and since they're still making the game apparently, I might hold off for 6 months until they finish it, but yeah FF is a strong selling series (It's still top10 selling franchises after Pokemon, DQ, Yokai Watch, Monster Hunter and maybe one or two other series) and I can't see SE just abandoning big mainline FF titles because that'd be like Atlus abandoning P5 when it's selling its highest right now, BUT I think SE is going to buckle down on budgets.  FFXV's lack of CG and other budget conscious decisions is a step in that direction.  I think we're gonna see tight 3 year dev cycles, hardly any CG, smaller scope for FF mainlines.  I also think they're not going to go back to traditional structure jrpgs because they'd rather double down and focus more on the much larger worldwide market than try to become a big seller in Japan again to the detriment of western sales.

But yeah, right now the problem is SE has no staff free.  KH team is doing KH3, FFXIV team is still working FFXIV or spinoffs like DQB2, a smaller team is working with CC2 on FFVII Remake and FFXV team is still working on finishing FFXV & DLC.  As much as it'd be nice for FFXV to be "fixed" into a better game, it might make more sense for SE to just cut FFXV off as is, let it be a mess and then start fresh on FFXVI ASAP with full production to be out in 3 years.  2017 could be KH3, 2018 FFVII-1, and 2019 for FFXVI would be a better solution imo than 3 years of FFXV stuff and FFXVI being 5-6 years off.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: bork on December 07, 2016, 02:09:17 PM
Here's my personal thoughts on things that contributed towards FF's decline in Japan:

-Everyone is on mobile now and doesn't give a shit about consoles.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Himu on December 08, 2016, 02:07:51 AM
Everyone is on mobile but persona 5 grew while FF declined. It's more than mobile.
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Post by: Rahxephon91 on December 08, 2016, 02:25:43 AM
I feel like that actually proves it's mobile among other things.

A niche otaku favorite grew on a otaku system, while a casual friendly series had a decline.
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Post by: Bebpo on December 08, 2016, 02:43:30 AM
MGSV maintained too.  It's not just mobile.  That's a part of it, but you don't drop from 1.5 million to almost half that because mobile is bigger now.  Then again, like I said, I count FFXIII-2 as sorta mainline entry and FF had already dropped to this level so maybe FFXV is maintaining and the huge FF drop was between FFXIII and FFXIII-2 which in that case probably would be a reaction to FFXIII.

If DQXI didn't have the 3DS version coming out beforehand and was just a console PS4 game, I bet it'd do pretty alright and nothing like these FFXV numbers.  It's FF or FFXV or a combo of both.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Bebpo on December 08, 2016, 02:49:33 AM
It's also interesting that someone on gaf posted that all the Japanese friends they had who didn't buy FFXV said "FF is too hard to play these days"; we bitch and complain about the dumbing down of difficult games (hell even Persona and SMT are easy mainstream now) and making games easy to steamroll (I hear FFXV is a joke if you do the side content), but if you want those mainstream dollars, people just want to press a button to win now :|

Another observation I have is I wonder if the reason why Japanese gamer tastes prefer turn-based is that when you're used to gaming on a train or out and about, it's much easier to play a game where you have no time pressure and you can sit, choose your next move and then watch it play out.  Whereas arpg/action requires constant attention and so it seems "hard" to keep track and less relaxing.  Then again Monster Hunter sells huge and is an action game and portable so I dunno.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: bork on December 08, 2016, 07:43:17 AM
You guys are making it seem like Persona 5 had massive sales.

It sold 337,767 copies, on both PS3 and PS4 combined, in its first week.  Up from Persona 4's 192,812, sure, but nothing spectacular.

Quote from: Kaffir The Reaper on December 08, 2016, 02:51:03 AM
I'd say the mobile market being much bigger than the dying console market in japan definitely is the bigger take away here.

It's all drying up.  Game stores are closing down or getting smaller.   I meant it when I said that it was almost depressing going to stores and arcades the last couple of times I went over there in the past year.  :-\

Maybe the Switch being a portable will help...but frankly I doubt it.  You just can't compete with phones.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: thisismyusername on December 08, 2016, 08:38:28 AM
Quote from: bork pls on December 08, 2016, 07:43:17 AM
You guys are making it seem like Persona 5 had massive sales.

It sold 337,767 copies, on both PS3 and PS4 combined, in its first week.  Up from Persona 4's 192,812, sure, but nothing spectacular.

That's actually pretty good for a niche series in Japan.

I mean that's not to say that you're not right about Japan being mobile country now a days. It is. But I mean in perspective, Persona growing while still being "niche" is an amazing/good thing.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Take My Breh Away on December 08, 2016, 08:57:04 AM
Quote from: bork pls on December 08, 2016, 07:43:17 AM
You guys are making it seem like Persona 5 had massive sales.

It sold 337,767 copies, on both PS3 and PS4 combined, in its first week.  Up from Persona 4's 192,812, sure, but nothing spectacular.

Quote from: Kaffir The Reaper on December 08, 2016, 02:51:03 AM
I'd say the mobile market being much bigger than the dying console market in japan definitely is the bigger take away here.

It's all drying up.  Game stores are closing down or getting smaller.   I meant it when I said that it was almost depressing going to stores and arcades the last couple of times I went over there in the past year.  :-\

Maybe the Switch being a portable will help...but frankly I doubt it.  You just can't compete with phones.

Wonder if Nintendo will allow a big app ecosystem in with all the major communication/social media apps and mobile games while also doing a 4G version for Japan. Stuff like 4G and Skype intergration is probably one of the only things that kept Vita (barely) alive over there and might broaden its appeal since part of the reason phone gaming is so popular over there is that people live by their phones and the games you only have to invest as much as you want into them since they are F2P. Offering a device that offers both your mobile games and the big AAA's along with the apps you need for life (Outside of calls, natch) might be enough to start getting people into Switch in Japan.

Meanwhile, Square is probably going to look for a way to hammer Luminous into Switch Hardware and eagerly awaiting the "Deploy to Switch" menu in Unreal 4. Dragon Quest XI would be straight money if they had it ready in time for Switch launch. 
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: thisismyusername on December 08, 2016, 08:59:44 AM
Wasn't it 3G and that option was dropped pretty quickly? I can't recall any Japanese games supporting that option post-launch. If I remember right, most of that support was for async. gameplay. You'd do a turn, send it via 3G to another person and they'd do a turn and send it back.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: bork on December 08, 2016, 09:00:29 AM
Quote from: thisismyusername on December 08, 2016, 08:38:28 AM
Quote from: bork pls on December 08, 2016, 07:43:17 AM
You guys are making it seem like Persona 5 had massive sales.

It sold 337,767 copies, on both PS3 and PS4 combined, in its first week.  Up from Persona 4's 192,812, sure, but nothing spectacular.

That's actually pretty good for a niche series in Japan.

Is Persona really a "niche series" with all the marketing, games, toys, TV show, etc.?
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Take My Breh Away on December 08, 2016, 09:01:14 AM
Quote from: thisismyusername on December 08, 2016, 08:59:44 AM
Wasn't it 3G and that option was dropped pretty quickly? I can't recall any Japanese games supporting that option post-launch. If I remember right, most of that support was for async. gameplay. You'd do a turn, send it via 3G to another person and they'd do a turn and send it back.

True. I forgot it was 3G.

4G is probably way more viable an option that I would be surprised if Nintendo didn't have that option available.
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Post by: Tasty on December 08, 2016, 01:03:55 PM
Quote from: Bebpo on December 07, 2016, 02:08:07 PM
2017 could be KH3

Hahahaha
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Post by: Great Rumbler on December 08, 2016, 02:46:20 PM
50 million PS4s sold to consumers worldwide:

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/daily-briefs/2016-12-08/sony-sells-over-50-million-ps4-consoles-worldwide/.109633
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: thisismyusername on December 08, 2016, 06:05:41 PM
Quote from: bork pls on December 08, 2016, 09:00:29 AM
Quote from: thisismyusername on December 08, 2016, 08:38:28 AM
Quote from: bork pls on December 08, 2016, 07:43:17 AM
You guys are making it seem like Persona 5 had massive sales.

It sold 337,767 copies, on both PS3 and PS4 combined, in its first week.  Up from Persona 4's 192,812, sure, but nothing spectacular.

That's actually pretty good for a niche series in Japan.

Is Persona really a "niche series" with all the marketing, games, toys, TV show, etc.?

I dunno about specifically in Japan, but in the west it totally is. SMT in general has been second fiddle with Final Fantasy from what I remember about how the series is received in Japan.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Rahxephon91 on December 08, 2016, 06:26:27 PM
Persona 5 is going to do well here. Not CoD or even FF numbers but good. We have pre-order cards for it at Target for some reason.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Himu on December 08, 2016, 06:40:50 PM
Persona 5 not doing niche 250k traditional jrpg numbers will be something to see
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on December 10, 2016, 01:47:03 AM
Quote from: Great Rumbler on December 08, 2016, 02:46:20 PM
50 million PS4s sold to consumers worldwide:

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/daily-briefs/2016-12-08/sony-sells-over-50-million-ps4-consoles-worldwide/.109633

2:1 on xbox
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Trent Dole on December 10, 2016, 02:51:15 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/dcTeY7E.gif)
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on December 10, 2016, 04:01:02 AM
u cared enough to post :lol

here a gif for u

(https://i.imgur.com/68ATAM0.gif)
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Trent Dole on December 10, 2016, 04:25:23 AM
Quote from: Premium Lager on December 10, 2016, 04:01:02 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LoHGTzqJTM0
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on December 10, 2016, 07:01:26 AM
Go cry moar about Let it Die being a PS exclusive

Seems jap devs currr

maybe u can play halo 12 instead or some other game people outside the states dont care about

:umad
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Post by: Trent Dole on December 10, 2016, 03:48:34 PM
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Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on December 10, 2016, 04:27:21 PM
Just go play mario on your phone

oh wait you have gettodroid another loser platform with no support

do you even play games?
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on December 11, 2016, 01:34:32 AM
Why even edit your post if I quoted it. Are you distinguished mentally-challenged?
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Himu on December 11, 2016, 02:44:27 AM
 :dunno



:crazy
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Rahxephon91 on December 11, 2016, 03:04:46 AM
I don't even know why there's still an xbox.  The One is even more useless than the Wii U.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: thisismyusername on December 11, 2016, 11:35:39 AM
Quote from: Premium Lager on December 10, 2016, 04:27:21 PM
oh wait you have gettodroid another loser platform with no support

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.nostalgiaemulators.neslite&hl=en

:umad

Even if it wasn't included in the app store, since Android is Linux, he could root it and set up an emulator that way. You have to bend over backwards on iPhone to "jailbreak" it to do similar.

Mobile Platform stannery is just as bad as console stannery.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: tiesto on December 11, 2016, 12:46:22 PM
Quote from: Rahxephon91 on December 11, 2016, 03:04:46 AM
I don't even know why there's still an xbox.  The One is even more useless than the Wii U.

I'm more shocked there's a Scorpio. I was thinking after the failure and redundancy of the One, and the push for Win 10, that MS would focus primarily on the PC market.

The first few years of the 360 were probably the pinnacle of MS in the console race, but then once they started focusing on Kinect and nothing but Halo/Gears/Forza, they lost a lot of what made those years special.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Himu on December 11, 2016, 12:58:32 PM
doesn't x1 have a lot of niche stuff like sunset overdrive and d3? xbox one has better exclusives to me than ps4. If you're not looking for a pc, x1 would be a good system if you find those exclusives more enticing. not that i agree with it, but i can understand it. this idea that there's no reason to own an x1 is confirmation bias. People say, why buy an x1 when you can buy its games on pc? You can say the same thing about ps4. i got a ps4 for shenmue III and that's coming out on pc as well. A lot of ps4 "exclusives" are like that. but some reason, that's only a problem if the x1 does it?

complaining about ms and game variety makes no sense in light of the xbox one. You know, the system with the phantom dust remaster, d3, sunset overdrive, killer instict;etc on it.

Not supporting MS' console just stating some facts. It appears a lot of people agree too since Scorpio is selling more than the PS4 Pro.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on December 11, 2016, 01:03:56 PM
Quote from: Queen of Ice on December 11, 2016, 12:58:32 PM
Not supporting MS' console just stating some facts. It appears a lot of people agree too since Scorpio is selling more than the PS4 Pro.

what?

I assume you mean xbox s since Scorpio is next year, and Xbox is getting wrecked by PS4 hard.

Its 2:1 worldwide and gap is getting bigger every day
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: seagrams hotsauce on December 11, 2016, 01:06:34 PM
is the one a failure? Anecdotally I know one person with a PS4 and everyone else has Xbox
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on December 11, 2016, 01:07:37 PM
Well One is at 25 million PS4 at 50.

Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Himu on December 11, 2016, 01:21:11 PM
Quote from: Premium Lager on December 11, 2016, 01:03:56 PM
Quote from: Queen of Ice on December 11, 2016, 12:58:32 PM
Not supporting MS' console just stating some facts. It appears a lot of people agree too since Scorpio is selling more than the PS4 Pro.

what?

I assume you mean xbox s since Scorpio is next year, and Xbox is getting wrecked by PS4 hard.

Its 2:1 worldwide and gap is getting bigger every day

i wasn't talking about ltd, but in recent months it is better selling than the ps4.

i thought xbox one s was the scorpio. shows how much i pay attention to games these days.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Rahxephon91 on December 11, 2016, 01:46:16 PM
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doesn't x1 have a lot of niche stuff
Not at all..Nothing compared to the PS4.

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like sunset overdrive and d3? xbox one has better exclusives to me than ps4.
Sunset Overdrive is not niche or wasn't meant to be. It's also not a very good game. D3 is about the only thing you have. The Phantom Dust Remaster is'nt happening. And really the Xbox One has better exclusives?

Upcoming PS4 Console Exclusives:
13 Sentinels: Aegis Rim (Atlus)
Ace Combat 7 (Bandai Namco)
Akiba’s Beat (XSEED Games)
Atelier Firis: The Alchemist of the Mysterious Journey (Koei Tecmo)
Berserk and the Band of the Hawk (Koei Tecmo)
Blue Reflection: Sword of the Girl Who Dances in Illusions (Gust)
City Shrouded in Shadow (Bandai Namco)
Crash Bandicoot N. Sane Trilogy (Activision)
Danganronpa 1•2 Reload (NIS America)
Danganronpa Another Episode: Ultra Despair Girls (NIS America)
Danganronpa V3: Killing Harmony (NIS America)
Dark Rose Valkyrie (Idea Factory International)
Days Gone (SIE)
Death Stranding (SIE)
Detroit: Become Human (SIE)
Digimon World: Next Order (Bandai Namco)
Disaster Report 4 Plus: Summer Memories (Granzella)
DJMAX Respect (Neowiz Games)
Dragon Quest Heroes II (Square Enix)
Dragon Quest XI: In Search of Departed Time [Console Ver.] (Square Enix)
Dreams (SIE)
Earth Defense Force 5 (D3 Publisher)
Farpoint (SIE)
Fate/Extella: The Umbral Star (XSEED Games)
Final Fantasy VII Remake (Square Enix)
Final Fantasy XII: The Zodiac Age (Square Enix)
God of War (SIE)
Granblue Fantasy Project Re: Link (Cygames)
Gran Turismo Sport (SIE)
Gravity Rush 2 (SIE)
Gundam Versus (Bandai Namco)
Horizon: Zero Dawn (SIE)
Itadaki Street: Dragon Quest and Final Fantasy 30th Anniversary (Square Enix)
Kingdom Hearts HD 1.5 + 2.5 Remix (Square Enix)
Kingdom Hearts HD 2.8: Final Chapter Prologue (Square Enix)
Knack 2 (SIE)
The Last of Us Part II (SIE)
MLB: The Show 17 (SIE)
Musou Stars (Koei Tecmo)
New Hot Shots Golf (SIE)
Nights of Azure 2: Bride of the New Moon (Koei Tecmo)
NieR: Automata (Square Enix)
Ni no Kuni II: Revenant Kingdom (Bandai Namco)
Nioh (SIE)
Persona 5 (Atlus)
Samurai Warriors: Sanada Maru (Koei Tecmo)
Senran Kagura: Peach Beach Splash (XSEED Games)
 SG/ZH School Girl/Zombie Hunter (D3 Publisher)
Shenmue III (Ys Net)
The Silver Case (NIS America)
Spider-Man (SIE)
Sudden Strike 4 (Kalypso Media)
Summon Night 6: Lost Borders (Gaijinworks)
Super Robot Wars V (Bandai Namco)
Tales of Berseria (Bandai Namco)
Tokyo Xanadu eX+ (Falcom)
Touhou Genso Wanderer (NIS America)
Toukiden 2 (Koei Tecmo)
Uncharted: The Lost Legacy (SIE)
Valkyria: Azure Revolution (Sega)
WipEout Omega Collection (SIE)
Yakuza 0 (Sega)
Yakuza: Kiwami (Sega)
Yakuza 6 (Sega)
Ys VIII: Lacrimosa of Dana (Falcom)
Zero Escape: The Nonary Games (Aksys Games)

Current:
Akiba’s Trip: Undead & Undressed (XSEED Games)
Atelier Sophie: The Alchemist of the Mysterious Book (Koei Tecmo)
Blade Arcus from Shining EX (Sega)
BlazBlue: Central Fiction (Aksys Games)
Bloodborne (SIE)
Dead or Alive Xtreme 3: Fortune (Koei Tecmo)
Deception IV: The Nightmare Princess (Koei Tecmo)
Dengeki Bunko: Fighting Climax Ignition (Sega)
Digimon Story: Cyber Sleuth (Bandai Namco)
Disgaea 5: Alliance of Vengeance (NIS America)
Dragon Quest Builders (Square Enix)
Dragon Quest Heroes: The World Tree’s Woe and the Blight Below (Square Enix)
Driveclub (SIE)
Dynasty Warriors 8: Xtreme Legends Complete Edition (Koei Tecmo)
Earth Defense Force 4.1: The Shadow of New Despair (XSEED Games)
Exist Archive: The Other Side of the Sky (Aksys Games)
Fairy Fencer F: Advent Dark Force (Idea Factory)
Final Fantasy X | X-2 HD Remaster (Square Enix)
Final Fantasy XIV: A Realm Reborn (Square Enix)
God Eater 2: Rage Burst (Bandai Namco)
God of War III Remastered (SIE)
Grand Kingdom (NIS America)
Gravity Rush Remastered (SIE)
Guilty Gear Xrd: Sign (Aksys Games)
Guilty Gear Xrd: Revelator (Aksys Games)
Gundam Breaker 3 (Bandai Namco)
Hatsune Miku: Project Diva X (Sega)
Helldivers Super-Earth Ultimate Edition (SIE)
inFAMOUS: Second Son (SIE)
Journey: Collector’s Edition (SIE)
J-Stars Victory VS+ (Bandai Namco)
Killing Floor 2 (Deep Silver)
Killzone: Shadow Fall (SIE)
The King of Fighters XIV (Atlus)
Knack (SIE)
The Last Guardian (SIE)
The Last of Us Remastered (SIE)
LittleBigPlanet 3 (SIE)
MLB: The Show 14 (SIE)
MLB: The Show 15 (SIE)
MLB: The Show 16 (SIE)
MotoGP 14 (Bandai Namco)
MXGP 14 (Bandai Namco)
Nights of Azure (Koei Tecmo)
Nitroplus Blasterz: Heroines Infinite Duel (XSEED GAmes
Nobunaga’s Ambition: Sphere of Influence (Koei Tecmo)
Nobunaga’s Ambition: Sphere of Influence – Ascension (Koei Tecmo)
No Man’s Sky (Hello Games)
Odin Sphere: Leifthrasir (Atlus)
Onechanbara Z2: Chaos (XSEED Games)
One Piece: Pirate Warriors 3 (Bandai Namco)
The Order: 1886 (SIE)
Ratchet & Clank (SIE)
Republique (GungHo Online Entertainment)
Robinson: The Journey (Crytek)
Romance of the Three Kingdoms XIII (Koei Tecmo)
RIGS: Mechanized Combat League (SIE)
Samurai Warriors 4 (Koei Tecmo)
Samurai Warriors 4-II (Koei Tecmo)
Samurai Warriors 4: Empires (Koei Tecmo)
Sengoku Basara 4: Sumeragi (Capcom)
Sengoku Basara: Sanada Yukimura-Den (Capcom)
Senran Kagura: Estival Versus (XSEED Games)
Star Ocean: Integrity and Faithlessness (Square Enix)
Street Fighter V (Capcom)
Super Robot Wars OG: The Moon Dwellers (Bandai Namco)
Sword Art Online: Lost Song (Bandai Namco)
Sword Art Online: Hollow Realization (Bandai Namco)
Tales of Zestiria (Bandai Namco)
Tearaway Unfolded (SIE)
Toukiden: Kiwami (Koei Tecmo)
Uncharted: The Nathan Drake Collection (SIE)
Uncharted 4: A Thief’s End (SIE)
Until Dawn (SIE)
Until Dawn: Rush of Blood (SIE)
Valkyria Chronicles Remastered (Sega)
The Witch and the Hundred Knight: Revival Edition (NIS America)
World of Final Fantasy (Square Enix)
Yakuza: Ishin (Sega)

Xbox:
Upcoming:
Crackdown 3 (Microsoft)
Halo Wars 2 (Microsoft)
Sea of Thieves (Microsoft)
State of Decay 2 (Microsoft)
Scalebound (Microsoft)

Current:
Dead Rising 3 (Microsoft)
Dead Rising 4 (Microsoft)
Fantasia: Music Evolved (Disney Interactive)
Fighter Within (Ubisoft)
Forza Horizon 2 (Microsoft)
Forza Horizon 3 (Microsoft)
Forza Motorsport 5 (Microsoft)
Forza Motorsport 6 (Microsoft)
Gears of War: Ultimate Edition (Microsoft)
Gears of War 4 (Microsoft)
Halo: The Master Chief Collection (Microsoft)
Halo 5: Guardians (Microsoft)
Kinect Sports Rivals (Microsoft)
Plants vs. Zombies: Garden Warfare (EA)
Powerstar Golf (Microsoft)
Project Spark (Microsoft)
Quantum Break (Microsoft)
Rare Replay (Microsoft)
ReCore (Microsoft)
Rise of the Tomb Raider (Square Enix)
Ryse: Son of Rome (Microsoft)
ScreamRide (Microsoft)
Shape Up (Ubisoft)
State of Decay: Year-One Survival Edition (Microsoft)
Sunset Overdrive (Microsoft)
Titanfall (EA)
Zoo Tycoon (Microsoft)
D3

Yeah don't see how you could say Xbox has more exclusives. Especially more niche exclusives. You really have to like Halo, Gears, and Forza to find the xbox worthwhile.


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complaining about ms and game variety makes no sense in light of the xbox one. You know, the system with the phantom dust remaster, d3, sunset overdrive, killer instict;etc on it.
Um no, as someone who actually has an xbox it makes complete sense. Most of the big xbox games are the same games that have been the big xbox games since the 360. A few small efforts don't change the argument and at the end of the day the only real argument you have for is D3. One game.


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Not supporting MS' console just stating some facts. It appears a lot of people agree too since Scorpio is selling more than the PS4 Pro.
Scorpio is'nt out.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Tasty on December 11, 2016, 07:27:29 PM
Quote from: Rahxephon91 on December 11, 2016, 03:04:46 AM
I don't even know why there's still an xbox.  The One is even more useless than the Wii U.

:dead

Rahx's Redemption :rejoice
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Tasty on December 11, 2016, 07:28:26 PM
Am I dummy for wanting a One S or PS4 Slim instead of the big bad beefy Scorpio/Pro?

As a Nintard graphics don't really do it for me and I'd rather have a smaller, cheaper, quieter system with lower power intake.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on December 11, 2016, 10:19:56 PM
The Bone is totally worthless, that I can agree with.  However the PS4 is still doing pretty shitty for a supposed market leader console.

:bow low expectations :bow2
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Trent Dole on December 11, 2016, 10:34:19 PM
Quote from: Tasty Meat on December 11, 2016, 07:28:26 PM
Am I dummy for wanting a One S or PS4 Slim instead of the big bad beefy Scorpio/Pro?

As a Nintard graphics don't really do it for me and I'd rather have a smaller, cheaper, quieter system with lower power intake.
In one of these threads somewhere somebody posted a video where they put a bunch of people in front of two tvs with one running a regular ps4 and the other a pro and asked them to figure out which is which, most didn't see that much of a difference and felt for the difference in price the improvements aren't really worth it. :doge
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Tasty on December 11, 2016, 10:51:41 PM
Quote from: Trent Dole on December 11, 2016, 10:34:19 PM
Quote from: Tasty Meat on December 11, 2016, 07:28:26 PM
Am I dummy for wanting a One S or PS4 Slim instead of the big bad beefy Scorpio/Pro?

As a Nintard graphics don't really do it for me and I'd rather have a smaller, cheaper, quieter system with lower power intake.
In one of these threads somewhere somebody posted a video where they put a bunch of people in front of two tvs with one running a regular ps4 and the other a pro and asked them to figure out which is which, most didn't see that much of a difference and felt for the difference in price the improvements aren't really worth it. :doge

Yeah, that Cinemassacre vid really rustled some jimmies. :lol

I can see the argument for, like, performance (TLG is apparently a mess if you're not on a Pro on the lowest settings) but otherwise it doesn't really matter to me.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: benjipwns on December 11, 2016, 11:03:15 PM
Depends on how the Scorpio truly turns out I think. One S is really tempting, especially for those of us who don't have non-Nintendo consoles in a while and want to also use the 360 back compat on cheapo used games.

That said, I just got a 1060, and there will be a Scorpio S...

And you've got your Switch coming, and there will be a Scorpio S...

I just hope Microsoft realizes how much better then One S just in general looks compared to that garbage that originally trotted out for both the Bone and 360.

And that's even realizing that getting any kind of Xbox is dumb with a modern PC considering the Sony exclusives + console exclusives situation. BUT SHUT UP.

Nintendo and Microsoft have offset analogs. Sony continues 20 years of being discredited.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Raist on December 12, 2016, 02:19:39 AM
Quote from: Tasty Meat on December 11, 2016, 10:51:41 PM
Quote from: Trent Dole on December 11, 2016, 10:34:19 PM
Quote from: Tasty Meat on December 11, 2016, 07:28:26 PM
Am I dummy for wanting a One S or PS4 Slim instead of the big bad beefy Scorpio/Pro?

As a Nintard graphics don't really do it for me and I'd rather have a smaller, cheaper, quieter system with lower power intake.
In one of these threads somewhere somebody posted a video where they put a bunch of people in front of two tvs with one running a regular ps4 and the other a pro and asked them to figure out which is which, most didn't see that much of a difference and felt for the difference in price the improvements aren't really worth it. :doge

Yeah, that Cinemassacre vid really rustled some jimmies. :lol

I can see the argument for, like, performance (TLG is apparently a mess if you're not on a Pro on the lowest settings) but otherwise it doesn't really matter to me.

I really don't think it's worth it TBH, especially considering the price difference. There isn't that much of a difference, and not every game will be significantly improved anyway.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Trent Dole on December 12, 2016, 05:55:49 AM
Regular PS4 can be had for $250, that ain't bad at all.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: thisismyusername on December 12, 2016, 08:15:09 AM
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1324303

Dead Rising 4 outsold The Last Guardian (in the UK).

 :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on December 12, 2016, 08:26:56 AM
shocking! never suspected a million selling franchise about zombies from 2006 to outsell a 10 year delayed quasi sequel feautering a hairy rodent
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: mormapope on December 12, 2016, 08:27:39 AM
All of this Xbox hate and angst in this thread, past two pages feel like stealth Sony Gaf posts
 :dayum

At least Microsoft has put energy into backwards compatibility. Have fun rebuying PS2 ports on the PS4 Slim and then PS3 ports on the PS4 Super Pro.  :lol

Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on December 12, 2016, 08:30:18 AM
sure they put in energy cause its the only exclusives its getting

sure they dont release games from january to september but you can play alan wake one more time
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: a slime appears on December 12, 2016, 08:32:15 AM
This is my new favorite image:

(http://i.imgur.com/dcTeY7E.gif)
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: thisismyusername on December 12, 2016, 11:55:36 AM
Quote from: Premium Lager on December 12, 2016, 08:26:56 AM
shocking! never suspected a million selling franchise about zombies from 2006 to outsell a 10 year delayed quasi sequel feautering a hairy rodent

What I'm laughing at is Sony investing so much money into said niche hairy rodent game. That game should've been shitbinned as soon as the PS4 launched. Meanwhile, a company that doesn't understand what fans want makes a sequel more casual and sells (and probably has made their money back) while being a timed-exclusive.

In the words of Trump: Sad!
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Rahxephon91 on December 12, 2016, 12:50:35 PM
Quote from: mormapope on December 12, 2016, 08:27:39 AM


At least Microsoft has put energy into backwards compatibility. Have fun rebuying PS2 ports on the PS4 Slim and then PS3 ports on the PS4 Super Pro.  :lol
If they are quality remasters like Modern Warfare, FFXHD, and so on then gladly..

and I don't know what is funny about The Last Guardian. Sony partially said they don't expect it to be a big seller, but its about taking a loss to diversify the lineup. Which is something that Microsoft does not do at all and it makes their platform unattractive.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on December 12, 2016, 01:11:32 PM
Quote from: thisismyusername on December 12, 2016, 11:55:36 AM
Quote from: Premium Lager on December 12, 2016, 08:26:56 AM
shocking! never suspected a million selling franchise about zombies from 2006 to outsell a 10 year delayed quasi sequel feautering a hairy rodent

What I'm laughing at is Sony investing so much money into said niche hairy rodent game. That game should've been shitbinned as soon as the PS4 launched. Meanwhile, a company that doesn't understand what fans want makes a sequel more casual and sells (and probably has made their money back) while being a timed-exclusive.

In the words of Trump: Sad!

TLG is one of the reasons why SCEJ got an American to reorganize them.

Watch that Kojima game be a disaster too.

That said its a money pit but having these games is why Sony is number 1,  4 gens straitght and MS is still missing any kind of impact in Japan and Europe
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Take My Breh Away on December 12, 2016, 02:00:19 PM
Quote from: Premium Lager on December 12, 2016, 01:11:32 PM
Quote from: thisismyusername on December 12, 2016, 11:55:36 AM
Quote from: Premium Lager on December 12, 2016, 08:26:56 AM
shocking! never suspected a million selling franchise about zombies from 2006 to outsell a 10 year delayed quasi sequel feautering a hairy rodent

What I'm laughing at is Sony investing so much money into said niche hairy rodent game. That game should've been shitbinned as soon as the PS4 launched. Meanwhile, a company that doesn't understand what fans want makes a sequel more casual and sells (and probably has made their money back) while being a timed-exclusive.

In the words of Trump: Sad!

TLG is one of the reasons why SCEJ got an American to reorganize them.

Watch that Kojima game be a disaster too.

That said its a money pit but having these games is why Sony is number 1,  4 gens straitght and MS is still missing any kind of impact in Japan and Europe

That money pit just got ten foot higher.

http://nypost.com/2016/12/11/sony-considers-merging-gaming-and-film-divisions/

Call Sony games "Movies" for years and suddenly Sony wants to merge divisions. 2016 Meme magic, brehs :doge
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Tasty on December 12, 2016, 02:50:33 PM
Quote from: Take My Breh Away on December 12, 2016, 02:00:19 PM
Quote from: Premium Lager on December 12, 2016, 01:11:32 PM
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Quote from: Premium Lager on December 12, 2016, 08:26:56 AM
shocking! never suspected a million selling franchise about zombies from 2006 to outsell a 10 year delayed quasi sequel feautering a hairy rodent

What I'm laughing at is Sony investing so much money into said niche hairy rodent game. That game should've been shitbinned as soon as the PS4 launched. Meanwhile, a company that doesn't understand what fans want makes a sequel more casual and sells (and probably has made their money back) while being a timed-exclusive.

In the words of Trump: Sad!

TLG is one of the reasons why SCEJ got an American to reorganize them.

Watch that Kojima game be a disaster too.

That said its a money pit but having these games is why Sony is number 1,  4 gens straitght and MS is still missing any kind of impact in Japan and Europe

That money pit just got ten foot higher.

http://nypost.com/2016/12/11/sony-considers-merging-gaming-and-film-divisions/

Call Sony games "Movies" for years and suddenly Sony wants to merge divisions. 2016 Meme magic, brehs :doge

I blame David Cage. :goty :goty2
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: thisismyusername on December 12, 2016, 09:45:50 PM
Quote from: Premium Lager on December 12, 2016, 01:11:32 PM
Watch that Kojima game be a disaster too.

I'm dubious on that claim, but we'll see. If it's 2020 and Death Stranding has no release date and the PS5 is launching? Yeah, we'll be in TLG 2.0 territory.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: bork on December 13, 2016, 08:09:41 AM
Quote from: Tasty Meat on December 11, 2016, 07:28:26 PM
Am I dummy for wanting a One S or PS4 Slim instead of the big bad beefy Scorpio/Pro?

As a Nintard graphics don't really do it for me and I'd rather have a smaller, cheaper, quieter system with lower power intake.

There is something to be said for "future proofing" with a Pro or Scorpio (can we get a real name already?  I don't even think of astrology...that's a Nick Fury villain) and least in the Pro's case, it's only a difference of $100 or less...but it's not like there's anything out right now that makes the Pro a must-have system over the Slim.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Human Snorenado on December 13, 2016, 06:44:48 PM
My PC is two years old and is better than the pro or scorpio. I might get a slim or one s at some point if enough console exclusive shit is out there that I feel I need to play, but as for now, not feeling it.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Beezy on December 16, 2016, 10:26:40 AM
Titanfall 2 moved up in November :clap
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Take My Breh Away on December 24, 2016, 05:48:27 AM
Mobile Gaming accounts for biggest spend in gaming in 2016, PC follows behind with over six times more spend than console spending, according to research group  (https://www.superdataresearch.com/market-data/market-brief-year-in-review/)

PC Gaming keeps on dying  :doge
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: archie4208 on December 24, 2016, 07:06:06 AM
Yeah but that doesn't count because F2P games aren't really games and nobody buys games on Steam until they're 90% off.  :doge
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: tiesto on December 25, 2016, 11:14:42 AM
Quote from: Take My Breh Away on December 24, 2016, 05:48:27 AM
Mobile Gaming accounts for biggest spend in gaming in 2016, PC follows behind with over six times more spend than console spending, according to research group  (https://www.superdataresearch.com/market-data/market-brief-year-in-review/)

PC Gaming keeps on dying  :doge

Too bad not nearly enough PC gamers are spending on Xanadu Next or the Trails series :(
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: D3RANG3D on December 25, 2016, 11:32:24 AM
Not buying Xanadu Next is shameful. :maf
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: thisismyusername on December 27, 2016, 09:39:57 AM
Quote from: tiesto on December 25, 2016, 11:14:42 AM
Quote from: Take My Breh Away on December 24, 2016, 05:48:27 AM
Mobile Gaming accounts for biggest spend in gaming in 2016, PC follows behind with over six times more spend than console spending, according to research group  (https://www.superdataresearch.com/market-data/market-brief-year-in-review/)

PC Gaming keeps on dying  :doge

Too bad not nearly enough PC gamers are spending on Xanadu Next or the Trails series :(

I bought the first Trails, but I haven't even bothered to play it yet. I'm sure most are in the same boat in regards to the second.

JRPG boom (with many crap titles or ports, granted) kinda kill those niche JRPG series.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on January 05, 2017, 01:21:35 PM
ps4 at 54 million

sold 6 million during holidays

:lawd
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: archnemesis on January 05, 2017, 01:44:27 PM
That's pretty impressive. I hope it stays around for another five years.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Raist on March 06, 2017, 03:21:04 PM
Switch opened with 80k HW sales in the UK. That's below the Wii (105k) but above WiiU (40k, lelz).

BotW accounts for 75% of Switch SW sales :lol

Although...

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01    HORIZON ZERO DAWN
02    THE LEGEND OF ZELDA

Horizon is the biggest ever new IP launch for Sony on the PS4, biggest launch of the year overall all platforms considered, although did not quite beat Uncharted 4.

Nice try, Nintandoz.
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Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Bebpo on March 09, 2017, 03:56:28 PM
Opening sales-wise and public perception, Switch does to be falling somewhere between Wii U (what's that, a new Wii add-on?) and Wii (casual party machine).  Guessing it'll be somewhere around a GC type success, maybe a little better.  Depends on if it gets some runaway hits that elevate it to the mainstream.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: archie4208 on March 20, 2017, 09:09:34 PM
http://steamspy.com/app/524220

Nier sold ~138k in 3 days on PC.  :rock
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Great Rumbler on March 20, 2017, 11:10:46 PM
Based on the trend line, it looks like it'll end up selling a lot more than that.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: a slime appears on March 21, 2017, 09:05:33 AM
Quote from: Raist on March 06, 2017, 03:21:04 PM
Switch opened with 80k HW sales in the UK. That's below the Wii (105k) but above WiiU (40k, lelz).[/spoiler]

Quote from: Bebpo on March 09, 2017, 03:56:28 PM
Opening sales-wise and public perception, Switch does to be falling somewhere between Wii U (what's that, a new Wii add-on?) and Wii (casual party machine).

According to GameStop it's one of the best performing console launches and looking to out do the Wii in sales: http://www.gamespot.com/articles/gamestop-nintendo-switch-sales-phenomenal-could-ou/1100-6448845/
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: tiesto on April 04, 2017, 12:54:13 PM
Nier Automata has sold 1 million. Extremely well-deserved...
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Raist on April 11, 2017, 08:25:47 AM
Things looking good for xbox exclusives portfolio.

http://www.remedygames.com/remedy-continues-a-successful-year-with-two-new-games/

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Remedy is also working on a game project codenamed P7. The company’s strategy is to release the game on a wider range of platforms, which is why Remedy is developing its Northlight technology also for PlayStation 4 consoles.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: bork on April 14, 2017, 07:31:24 AM
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Switch sold more than 906,000 units in March in the United States, according to NPD Group sales data, Nintendo announced. That makes Switch the fastest-selling video game system in Nintendo history, and one of the fastest-selling video game systems of all time. Nintendo notes that this sales surge was accomplished in a non-traditional month for a console launch.

The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild sold over 1.3 million units in March in the United States, including 925,000 units on Switch and 460,000 units on Wii U. Nintendo notes that more Switch copies of Zelda were sold than Switch systems themselves, which they say may be attributed to people who purchased both a limited edition of the game to collect and a second version to play.

The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild was also the fastest-selling Nintendo launch game of all time, as well as the fastest-selling game ever in The Legend of Zelda series.

Nintendo will provide a full accounting of worldwide Nintendo Switch sales, as well as other financial information, during its fiscal-year earnings release on April 27.

Read more at http://gematsu.com/2017/04/switch-sells-906000-units-march-us-legend-zelda-breath-wild-tops-1-3-million#pj58r9OR0iwU5Kkm.99
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: a slime appears on April 14, 2017, 08:42:42 AM
Zelda BotW has an attach rate of 102%

Pretty sure that's an INDUSTRY FIRST ™

 :whoo
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Huff on April 14, 2017, 09:55:46 AM
Nintendo fans buying the same game multiple times since there's nothing else to play

Smh
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Great Rumbler on April 14, 2017, 10:06:26 AM
I personally know someone who bought both a regular version of BotW and the big special edition. I don't know why.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Joe Molotov on April 14, 2017, 11:38:59 AM
Quote from: Great Rumbler on April 14, 2017, 10:06:26 AM
I personally know someone who bought both a regular version of BotW and the big special edition. I don't know why.

He also bought the regular Special Edition.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Take My Breh Away on April 14, 2017, 05:02:14 PM
MS has their damage control piece out, but Sony stone cold silent even with HZD out and planned to be a big unit mover :lol

Ghost Recon Wildlands or Zelda took software, apparently. Likely GRW because Ubi discloses Digital sales to NPD and Nintendo doesn't but it would have to be a hell of a number to top 1.3 million across both versions of Zelda.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: a slime appears on April 17, 2017, 08:01:20 AM
Quote from: Joe Molotov on April 14, 2017, 11:38:59 AM
Quote from: Great Rumbler on April 14, 2017, 10:06:26 AM
I personally know someone who bought both a regular version of BotW and the big special edition. I don't know why.

He also bought the regular Special Edition.

What about me; I have two Master Editions (long story) and a Wii U version.

 :expert
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: archie4208 on April 27, 2017, 07:01:06 AM
Switch 2.74 million units sold
Zeruda 3.84 million units sold (2.76m Switch, 1.08m WiiU)

 :jawalrus
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Raist on April 29, 2017, 12:43:18 PM
20,000 confused moms bought the Switch version for their kids' WiiU.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: archie4208 on April 29, 2017, 01:42:18 PM
Alternatively, 20,000 neckbeards bought the collector's edition for their anime figurine cabinet.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on May 01, 2017, 05:06:35 PM
Meanwhile ps4 is passed 60 mil
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Great Rumbler on May 01, 2017, 06:59:18 PM
Quote from: Jack Remington on May 01, 2017, 06:34:09 PM
Persona 5 did well, right?

It's probably Atlus' most successful games ever.

The latest report on sales was about a week after it's international launch, when they reported that it had shipped 1.5 million units worldwide [including 500k in Japan].
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: thisismyusername on May 01, 2017, 07:37:22 PM
Quote from: Jack Remington on May 01, 2017, 06:34:09 PM
Persona 5 did well, right?

Yes, easily for Atlus.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on May 05, 2017, 07:38:32 AM
Apprently Overwatch raked in 1 billion in revenue since launch  :o
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: tiesto on May 22, 2017, 06:00:31 PM
Persona 5 the second best selling game for April :bow :bow :bow

NES Classic #2 console :bow :bow :bow
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Raist on May 23, 2017, 07:46:27 AM
GTAV has just hit 80M copies shipped. And it's still topping the charts in most countries. Insane.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: a slime appears on May 24, 2017, 07:50:01 AM
Quote from: Raist on May 23, 2017, 07:46:27 AM
GTAV has just hit 80M copies shipped. And it's still topping the charts in most countries. Insane.

And to think that Rockstar rewarded the man responsible for those sales by firing him.

:kobeyuck
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Rufus on May 24, 2017, 08:29:43 AM
The profits probably climbed high enough for them to backstab him for his share. A victim of his own success. :trumps
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: a slime appears on May 24, 2017, 08:47:20 AM
You're probably right!

 :lucas
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Yeti on May 24, 2017, 10:15:02 AM
Did you ever hear the tragedy of Darth Autotheft The Grand? I thought not. It’s not a story the Publishers would tell you. It’s a Developer legend. Darth Autotheft was a Dark Lord of the Developers, so powerful and so wise he could use the Code to influence the players to create sales… He had such a knowledge of the dark side that he could even keep the profits he cared about from falling. The dark side of the Code is a pathway to gameplay some consider to be unnatural. He became so powerful… the only thing he was afraid of was losing his job, which eventually, of course, he did. Unfortunately, he taught Rockstar everything he knew, then Rockstar fired him in his sleep. Ironic. He could save others from unemployment, but not himself.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: chronovore on May 26, 2017, 12:35:44 AM
Quote from: Rufus on May 24, 2017, 08:29:43 AM
The profits probably climbed high enough for them to backstab him for his share. A victim of his own success. :trumps

This is known now as the "Activision Maneuver," thanks to Infinity Ward and others.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Tasty on May 28, 2017, 09:49:47 PM
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1381620

Nintendo rumored to up Switch production to 18 million for this fiscal year (their current estimate is 10 million.) Essentially PS4/Wii territory.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Great Rumbler on June 16, 2017, 10:11:51 AM
PS4's up to 60 million shipped worldwide:

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2017-06-16/sony-ships-60.4-million-ps4-consoles-worldwide/.117456
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Raist on June 16, 2017, 06:58:23 PM
It's sold through (estimate, obv.) not shipped.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Joe Molotov on June 16, 2017, 07:50:45 PM
Quote from: Kaffir The Reaper on June 16, 2017, 07:17:42 PM
Guess consoles aren't dead after all. Probably because there's enough people who don't want to move to mobile exclusively.

Oscar still taking Ls from beyond the grave.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: seagrams hotsauce on June 17, 2017, 02:56:41 PM
Quote from: chronovore on May 26, 2017, 12:35:44 AM
Quote from: Rufus on May 24, 2017, 08:29:43 AM
The profits probably climbed high enough for them to backstab him for his share. A victim of his own success. :trumps

This is known now as the "Activision Maneuver," thanks to Infinity Ward and others.

Hey guys, google "activision maneuver" in quotations
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Fifstar on June 20, 2017, 07:20:09 AM
Nintendo is really dropping the ball with shipments.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: tiesto on June 20, 2017, 06:18:24 PM
Who the hell keeps buying GTA5?
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Tasty on June 20, 2017, 06:41:33 PM
Quote from: Fifstar on June 20, 2017, 07:20:09 AM
Nintendo is really dropping the ball with shipments.

They're selling millions of the things every month. I doubt they're intentionally leaving money on the table.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: tiesto on June 20, 2017, 09:11:56 PM
Quote from: Kaffir The Reaper on June 20, 2017, 08:04:00 PM
Quote from: tiesto on June 20, 2017, 06:18:24 PM
Who the hell keeps buying GTA5?

Literally anybody who just bought a console or gaming pc or built a rig will buy GTA V. It's also on last gen hardware which helps for people who haven't jumped into next gen yet. Plus GTA online is insanely popular with it's own subgenre of LP's and Twitch streams much like Minecraft.

Honestly, how are you even surprised? It's been the biggest game franchise out there for more than a decade.

Cuz you'd think everyone would have it already :P
Hell, even I own a copy and I don't even like the series that much (though V is probably the best of all of them).
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Great Rumbler on June 20, 2017, 09:16:25 PM
It's kind of insane how much content there is for GTA Online, and Rockstar keeps pumping out more free expansions/content packs every month or so.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: chronovore on June 21, 2017, 03:13:35 AM
Quote from: Kaffir The Reaper on June 20, 2017, 10:05:51 PM
GTA V is cool and all. But I have absolutely no idea how people haven't gotten sick of it either.

It's a good game, better than the atrocious IV. But it really wasn't that great. I guess it's basically the MMO but not really Online mode that keeps people coming.

Rockstar keeps adding play modes, missions, and purchase-able content. It doesn't surprise me that it's still popular. I do worry about the "level 347" players' lifestyle choices, though.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Fifstar on June 21, 2017, 03:49:46 AM
Quote from: Tasty Meat on June 20, 2017, 06:41:33 PM
Quote from: Fifstar on June 20, 2017, 07:20:09 AM
Nintendo is really dropping the ball with shipments.

They're selling millions of the things every month. I doubt they're intentionally leaving money on the table.

That's not what I'm saying, I'm saying since they underestimated demand before release they can't fullfill demand now. And since they're competing with Apple and other bigger companies for parts it seems like they can't ramp up production up as quick as they should.

I doubt they can even ship a million units at the moment. Japan gets about 25.000 units per week right now, they don't get north of 900.000 for US and Europe.

It's understandable coming from the WiiU failure but still...
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: a slime appears on June 22, 2017, 08:56:35 AM
The problem with supply and demand is that it's tough to guess what the demand is and it's even harder to quickly react to it.

You can't blame Nintendo for playing it safe after the Wii U. They went from gaming leper to golden child in the span of three months. Forecasting sales, ramping up manufacturing, organizing product assembly, scheduling shipping, and arranging payments for the whole thing is at minimum a 6+ month laborious process involving several hundred people. And most of those people all come from different cultural backgrounds, speak different languages, have their own fiscal goals to maintain, and must adhere to their own business schedules. It's an organizational nightmare when you're trying to meet global demand for a hot product.

Considering that the Switch is consistently a top seller in four major global markets and console shipments are coming in literally weekly to most major retailers, they are actually doing a phenomenal job. It's more than likely due to Nintendo's 30 year history with overseas manufacturers that are letting them compete and hold their own against Apple and other major electronic OEMs.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Fifstar on June 23, 2017, 01:59:57 AM
Quote from: a slime appears on June 22, 2017, 08:56:35 AM
Considering that the Switch is consistently a top seller in four major global markets and console shipments are coming in literally weekly to most major retailers, they are actually doing a phenomenal job. It's more than likely due to Nintendo's 30 year history with overseas manufacturers that are letting them compete and hold their own against Apple and other major electronic OEMs.

You're probably right. It just kinda sucks as somebody that is still a Nintendo fanboy at heart. Still haven't seen on in store here in germany (although it can be had for around 350€ at some smaller online shops).

The pricing of the system is also interesting. The forums were all "thing is DOA" after the pricing reveal. Now it's clear they could have gone for the european price of the system and people would still buy it in droves. Maybe even 350$.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Tasty on July 18, 2017, 04:29:05 PM
MK8D outsold BotW (Switch) in Japan. :o
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Great Rumbler on July 18, 2017, 05:18:44 PM
That's not really too surprising, MK has always been super-popular in Japan while the Zelda series has only been modestly popular.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Trent Dole on July 18, 2017, 11:15:43 PM
Also don't forget how MKDS was basically the DSotM of video games remaining in the top 10/20 for basically eternity in the US. That series sells forever.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: zomgee on July 19, 2017, 11:12:59 AM
Quote from: Tasty Meat on June 20, 2017, 06:41:33 PM
Quote from: Fifstar on June 20, 2017, 07:20:09 AM
Nintendo is really dropping the ball with shipments.

They're selling millions of the things every month. I doubt they're intentionally leaving money on the table.

yeah seems very much unlike them

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I'm still burnt over the NES and the eventual SNES bullshit.
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Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Fifstar on July 19, 2017, 03:40:18 PM
Quote from: zomgee on July 19, 2017, 11:12:59 AM
Quote from: Tasty Meat on June 20, 2017, 06:41:33 PM
Quote from: Fifstar on June 20, 2017, 07:20:09 AM
Nintendo is really dropping the ball with shipments.

They're selling millions of the things every month. I doubt they're intentionally leaving money on the table.

yeah seems very much unlike them

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I'm still burnt over the NES and the eventual SNES bullshit.
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NES Mini and SNES mini belongs to marketing and not sales though

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Got two preorders at different shops already in  :-*
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Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Raist on July 25, 2017, 08:52:38 AM
(https://abload.de/img/rektd9um1.png)

:teehee

Knack gonna have some Mario for breakfast later this year :bolo
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Tasty on July 25, 2017, 02:57:03 PM
Lol UK
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Trent Dole on July 25, 2017, 03:19:07 PM
Almost as if there's a larger install base of PS4s than Switches. :-*
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Tasty on September 01, 2017, 02:25:18 PM
Nintendo Switch Vs. PlayStation 4: In Japan, The Switch Keeps Dominating  (http://kotaku.com/the-nintendo-switch-keeps-outselling-the-ps4-in-japan-1798691215)

(https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--aC-o7Geq--/c_fit,fl_progressive,q_80,w_636/ldubrqskcz6ph8jth1xb.png)

Lager explain
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Himu on September 01, 2017, 02:26:32 PM
:lol

What did he bet again? I think it was an avatar.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Raist on September 01, 2017, 03:02:39 PM
A handheld doing better than a console in Japan? Wow didn't see that coming.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Himu on September 01, 2017, 03:09:51 PM
Quote from: Raist on September 01, 2017, 03:02:39 PM
A handheld doing better than a console in Japan? Wow didn't see that coming.

Check the pre-release discussion for Switch and how Switch was oh so damned because of Wii U.

"It's hybrid and will do wonderful in Japan because it's a handheld."

"No it's a console."

"No, you're a westerner. That's how you will play it because that's how you play games. You don't play handhelds. Switch can be whatever you want it to be. For Japan, it will be a handheld. Here, it will be marketed as a console. There's no way this will fail."

*people keep treating it like a Nintendo console despite what I told them many times*

Morons. lol
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Himu on September 01, 2017, 03:16:26 PM
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1262160&page=1

please bump :lol

Raist, read the replies. Gamers are morons.  :lol
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: a slime appears on September 01, 2017, 08:03:38 PM
Wow wtf, Switch really is dominating.

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The total sales for the PS4 in its first 26 weeks on sale in Japan is 665,760 units sold. The PlayStation 4 has been a very successful console for Sony in Japan with healthy sales.

The Switch’s sales figures are healthier. In its first 26 weeks on sale in Japan, the Nintendo Switch has sold 1,527,962 units. In comparison, it took Sony 69 weeks in Japan to hit 1,523,471 units sold.

To be fair, the PS4 launched when console sales were at their lowest point. Still over double is quite a feat.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: thisismyusername on September 02, 2017, 12:04:17 AM
Quote from: Raist on September 01, 2017, 03:02:39 PM
A handheld doing better than a console in Japan? Wow didn't see that coming.

.

Is anyone surprised at it being successful in Japan because of the hybrid focus?

If it's successful in the west in smoking PS4 numbers there, I'll be surprised.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Himu on September 02, 2017, 12:10:57 AM
I just love how people want Nintendo to die so much. :lol
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Tasty on September 02, 2017, 03:46:11 AM
Quote from: Raist on September 01, 2017, 03:02:39 PM
A handheld doing better than a console in Japan? Wow didn't see that coming.

Hindsight is always 20/20 :idont

Quote from: Exodust on January 20, 2016, 12:44:39 PM
So it's another Wii U.

I am shocked.

Quote from: Human Snorenado on January 20, 2016, 02:32:23 PM
Nintendo's last console

:rejoice

Quote from: CatsCatsCats on January 20, 2016, 02:54:36 PM
Seriously. Microsoft or Sony need to show up with a box of money and tell em to just make games. Each console is more of a joke than the last

Quote from: Phoenix Dark on January 21, 2016, 09:18:06 AM
Decade old tech and it'll take Ntards half a decade to realize it.

Quote from: Premium Lager on July 26, 2016, 09:36:47 AM
Carts  ::)

Whats the point

Quote from: D3RANG3D on July 26, 2016, 09:46:02 AM
R.I.P. in peace Nintendo.  :success

Quote from: Momo on July 26, 2016, 10:22:45 AM
gg, time to reskin more mobile games with nintendo chars because this shit is dead already.

Quote from: Dufus on July 26, 2016, 10:42:42 AM
I guess Nintendo wants to take so many steps backwards with the home console that the hardware is basically like a handheld :neogaf

Who the fuck is gonna buy a $300 handheld with the graphics of a $100 smartphone?

Quote from: Exodust on July 26, 2016, 12:38:14 PM
Any interest I might have had in this went out of the window.

Quote from: Olivia Wilde Homo on September 04, 2016, 10:43:40 PM
This thing will be a dumpster fire.

Quote from: Human Snorenado on September 07, 2016, 12:55:48 PM
Quote from: Dufus on September 07, 2016, 12:44:34 PM
The more I think about it, the more I think this system will be a complete clusterfuck. Worse than Wii U.

It will suck as a handheld and as a home console. The only thing it'll have going for it is the combined software of handheld and console which currently is separate (3DS, Wii U).

I guess as long as it has Pokemon and shit it'll sell. But yeah.

It's not looking good to me brehs. (http://www.thecoli.com/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/francis.png)

Of course this is how it's going to play out. Anyone saying otherwise is deluding themselves.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: a slime appears on September 02, 2017, 08:15:48 AM
Quote from: Queen of Ice on September 02, 2017, 12:10:57 AM
I just love how people want Nintendo to die so much. :lol

Yeah I don't get it. People are fucking idiots. Plus Nintendo can't/won't die. They have zero debt, an ungodly amount of cash, and are a hell of a lot more flexible than Sony/Microsoft. A healthy game industry is good for EVERYONE. People seeing failure in an industry puts investors off and people are more reluctant to spend.

You guys are fucking lucky Apple gives no shits about the game industry and Nintendo bounced back with the 3DS. 2010 - 2014 was a pretty crucial period for converting throngs of people to stick with mobile gaming and that fell-off hard due to quality control and lack of stewardship from Apple.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Himu on September 02, 2017, 09:26:34 AM
Quote from: Tasty Meat on September 02, 2017, 03:46:11 AM
Quote from: Raist on September 01, 2017, 03:02:39 PM
A handheld doing better than a console in Japan? Wow didn't see that coming.

Hindsight is always 20/20 :idont

Quote from: Exodust on January 20, 2016, 12:44:39 PM
So it's another Wii U.

I am shocked.

Quote from: Human Snorenado on January 20, 2016, 02:32:23 PM
Nintendo's last console

:rejoice

Quote from: CatsCatsCats on January 20, 2016, 02:54:36 PM
Seriously. Microsoft or Sony need to show up with a box of money and tell em to just make games. Each console is more of a joke than the last

Quote from: Phoenix Dark on January 21, 2016, 09:18:06 AM
Decade old tech and it'll take Ntards half a decade to realize it.

Quote from: Premium Lager on July 26, 2016, 09:36:47 AM
Carts  ::)

Whats the point

Quote from: D3RANG3D on July 26, 2016, 09:46:02 AM
R.I.P. in peace Nintendo.  :success

Quote from: Momo on July 26, 2016, 10:22:45 AM
gg, time to reskin more mobile games with nintendo chars because this shit is dead already.

Quote from: Dufus on July 26, 2016, 10:42:42 AM
I guess Nintendo wants to take so many steps backwards with the home console that the hardware is basically like a handheld :neogaf

Who the fuck is gonna buy a $300 handheld with the graphics of a $100 smartphone?

Quote from: Exodust on July 26, 2016, 12:38:14 PM
Any interest I might have had in this went out of the window.

Quote from: Olivia Wilde Homo on September 04, 2016, 10:43:40 PM
This thing will be a dumpster fire.

Quote from: Human Snorenado on September 07, 2016, 12:55:48 PM
Quote from: Dufus on September 07, 2016, 12:44:34 PM
The more I think about it, the more I think this system will be a complete clusterfuck. Worse than Wii U.

It will suck as a handheld and as a home console. The only thing it'll have going for it is the combined software of handheld and console which currently is separate (3DS, Wii U).

I guess as long as it has Pokemon and shit it'll sell. But yeah.

It's not looking good to me brehs. (http://www.thecoli.com/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/francis.png)

Of course this is how it's going to play out. Anyone saying otherwise is deluding themselves.

(https://imgur.com/tvEhiab.gif)
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Himu on September 02, 2017, 09:28:53 AM
I hope these people don't gamble because :whew

A series of bad calls.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Human Snorenado on September 02, 2017, 09:45:32 AM
If Nintendo is gonna put out BotW caliber games, more power to them and I hope they stay around forever.

The fact that they put out terrible shit like Splatoon and Animal Crossing when they could devote those resources to better games they're capable of making is what is infuriating.

Sony and MS are like eating somewhere that's mediocre but reliable. Nintendo is like eating somewhere that every once in a while, they serve you this unspeakably awesome four course meal made by a true master chef, and charge you the same as the other guys. But most of the time they let their simpleminded child cook you cold spaghetti noodles with applesauce.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Himu on September 02, 2017, 09:52:56 AM
Quote from: thisismyusername on September 02, 2017, 12:04:17 AM
Quote from: Raist on September 01, 2017, 03:02:39 PM
A handheld doing better than a console in Japan? Wow didn't see that coming.

.

Is anyone surprised at it being successful in Japan because of the hybrid focus?

Haha.

"Handhelds are trending down. Dedicated handhelds are dead."

Here's what I noticed about gamers. That they tend to apply a fatalist logic. It's as if all of us have aspergers.

3ds sales 60m units. Vita bombs.

Gamer logic: dedicated handhelds are dead because vita bombed. Never is it considered that vita was just a bomb at the market. Nor Switch's capability as a hybrid.

WiiU bombs.

Gamer logic: Switch will be a failure because Wii U was a failure. Even though Wii U had confusing marketing and never really could communicate what it was or why it was needed. Meanwhile, Switch communicated what it was out the gate. Yet people continued to equate it Wii U. Marketing matters. It's like saying the ps4 is just another PS3 while ignoring the context of ps3's release (high price, no games, hard to develop for;etc). That's how gamers looked when they said Switch would be another Wii U.

It's really odd. It's like gamers have a short term memory. Companies are capable of bouncing back. We've seen it with Nintendo, MS, AND Sony but somehow, nope, Nintendo was doomed because they didn't make a corebox.

You say it's obvious but look at the pre-release talk of Switch and look at how dumb people are. Was the Switch being succesful a given? No. But it was very, very likely.

TLDR: not sure if gamers are trolling or stupid
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Himu on September 02, 2017, 09:55:13 AM
Quote from: Human Snorenado on September 02, 2017, 09:45:32 AM
If Nintendo is gonna put out BotW caliber games, more power to them and I hope they stay around forever.

The fact that they put out terrible shit like Splatoon and Animal Crossing when they could devote those resources to better games they're capable of making is what is infuriating.

Sony and MS are like eating somewhere that's mediocre but reliable. Nintendo is like eating somewhere that every once in a while, they serve you this unspeakably awesome four course meal made by a true master chef, and charge you the same as the other guys. But most of the time they let their simpleminded child cook you cold spaghetti noodles with applesauce.

This says nothing of what you said how Switch would go, pre-release.

You can not like Animal Crossing and still deduce massive sales potential from the machine based on its premise. Comparing it to Wii U has never made sense, and the quotes Andy posted is hilarious fanboy war tier drivel.

Just stating facts.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Positive Touch on September 02, 2017, 10:02:16 AM
Quote from: Queen of Ice on September 02, 2017, 09:52:56 AM
TLDR: not sure if gamers are trolling or stupid

this might've had more effect if you hadn't spent the last month making equally terrible predictions in the sonic and mario threads


anyways i hope what nintendo's software divisions takes away from the huge success of zelda and inevitably mario is that they can't pull that shit they did with wii and wii u where they came up with one template for each game and then cranked out sequels that didn't build on it in any meaningful way. it works for the kids you're marketing to bc it'll be the first in a series that they play, but for everyone else it starts to feel like old hat. and yes, i know a lot of those games had insane sales, but it clearly wasn't enough to carry the wii u alone.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Himu on September 02, 2017, 10:09:22 AM
Quote from: Positive Touch on September 02, 2017, 10:02:16 AM
Quote from: Queen of Ice on September 02, 2017, 09:52:56 AM
TLDR: not sure if gamers are trolling or stupid

this might've had more effect if you hadn't spent the last month making equally terrible predictions in the sonic and mario threads


anyways i hope what nintendo's software divisions takes away from the huge success of zelda and inevitably mario is that they can't pull that shit they did with wii and wii u where they came up with one template for each game and then cranked out sequels that didn't build on it in any meaningful way. it works for the kids you're marketing to bc it'll be the first in a series that they play, but for everyone else it starts to feel like old hat. and yes, i know a lot of those games had insane sales, but it clearly wasn't enough to carry the wii u alone.

What terrible predictions? I never made any real predictions for mania and deduced sonic fans would like it based on pre-release hype. Now, the question of whether or not I'd like it was different. Not my fault I think Sonic sucks.

Mario, I haven't made a hard bet on, but I predict it'll probably be divisive with most people liking it.

In any case, that's not here nor there. And has nothing to do with sales. Mania will sell well because it's nostalgia bait. Odyssey will sell well because it's fucking Mario. Now whether Odyssey will be a good game, however...based on all reliable information? :yeshrug
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Raist on September 02, 2017, 10:55:11 AM
Quote from: a slime appears on September 02, 2017, 08:15:48 AM
Quote from: Queen of Ice on September 02, 2017, 12:10:57 AM
I just love how people want Nintendo to die so much. :lol

Yeah I don't get it. People are fucking idiots. Plus Nintendo can't/won't die. They have zero debt, an ungodly amount of cash, and are a hell of a lot more flexible than Sony/Microsoft. A healthy game industry is good for EVERYONE. People seeing failure in an industry puts investors off and people are more reluctant to spend.

You guys are fucking lucky Apple gives no shits about the game industry and Nintendo bounced back with the 3DS. 2010 - 2014 was a pretty crucial period for converting throngs of people to stick with mobile gaming and that fell-off hard due to quality control and lack of stewardship from Apple.

Mobile was never going to replace consoles. No matter how much cash Apple would have thrown at it and regardless of Nintendo going the Sega way.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Human Snorenado on September 02, 2017, 11:14:05 AM
Quote from: Queen of Ice on September 02, 2017, 09:55:13 AM
Quote from: Human Snorenado on September 02, 2017, 09:45:32 AM
If Nintendo is gonna put out BotW caliber games, more power to them and I hope they stay around forever.

The fact that they put out terrible shit like Splatoon and Animal Crossing when they could devote those resources to better games they're capable of making is what is infuriating.

Sony and MS are like eating somewhere that's mediocre but reliable. Nintendo is like eating somewhere that every once in a while, they serve you this unspeakably awesome four course meal made by a true master chef, and charge you the same as the other guys. But most of the time they let their simpleminded child cook you cold spaghetti noodles with applesauce.

This says nothing of what you said how Switch would go, pre-release.

You can not like Animal Crossing and still deduce massive sales potential from the machine based on its premise. Comparing it to Wii U has never made sense, and the quotes Andy posted is hilarious fanboy war tier drivel.

Just stating facts.

I mean, in a world where Donald Trump is president clearly all reliable prognosticators are liars.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on September 03, 2017, 06:37:50 AM
I expected the Switch to bomb and I was wrong.  Oh well.

To be fair, we hadn't seen any BOTW-caliber games from Nintendo since Mario Galaxy 2 so it was almost a seven year stretch since Nintendo made a game that could be considered a classic.  I guess well done Nintendo games still do well.  Hopefully they learn their lesson and their future software lineup is strong and not Wii Music and Paper Mario Sticker Star type of crapola.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: a slime appears on September 04, 2017, 08:21:12 PM
This is why you guys don't get paid the big bucks like Michael Pachter.

:iface


Quote from: Raist on September 02, 2017, 10:55:11 AM
Mobile was never going to replace consoles. No matter how much cash Apple would have thrown at it and regardless of Nintendo going the Sega way.

No but it had a very real shot of demolishing Nintendo's core profit pillar, the handheld market.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: thisismyusername on September 04, 2017, 08:22:29 PM
The only reason I'd get a Switch is for Rocket League, and even then I'd probably just get a GPD Win for that. :doge
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: archie4208 on September 05, 2017, 11:23:11 AM
https://twitter.com/PLAYERUNKNOWN/status/905083558833860609
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Positive Touch on September 05, 2017, 11:38:54 AM
10 million Jesus fucking Christ
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: archie4208 on September 05, 2017, 11:46:44 AM
Ten million in 6 months.  :dizzy
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Great Rumbler on September 05, 2017, 01:07:22 PM
About $300 million in sales for a game that probably hasn't cost 1% of that.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: archie4208 on September 05, 2017, 01:21:10 PM
It's not quite that simple as the game is the equivalent of 15 USD in CN and RU, which combined make up about 25% of the playerbase according to SteamSpy.  There is also a loot crate system in place so they are earning more money via microtransations.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Tasty on September 05, 2017, 02:57:54 PM
I've never even heard of this game. :thinking
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Joe Molotov on September 05, 2017, 03:11:33 PM
Quote from: Tasty Meat on September 05, 2017, 02:57:54 PM
I've never even heard of this game. :thinking

Have you heard of Twitch.tv?
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Rufus on September 05, 2017, 03:26:02 PM
You may know it as PUB-G.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Rahxephon91 on September 05, 2017, 03:53:49 PM
Quote from: Tasty Meat on September 05, 2017, 02:57:54 PM
I've never even heard of this game. :thinking
How is this possible for someone on the internet in gaming circles?

It's like not knowing about Dota, LoL, or even CS.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Tasty on September 05, 2017, 05:41:23 PM
I know about those but deliberately don't keep up on the MOBA scene.

So this is a MOBA then?
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Rahxephon91 on September 05, 2017, 05:56:52 PM
No it's kind of like an massive open world king of the hill.

But I mention those games because like them it's also a pretty big PC multi game.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Raist on September 05, 2017, 06:35:47 PM
Quote from: Great Rumbler on September 05, 2017, 01:07:22 PM
About $300 million in sales for a game that probably hasn't cost 1% of that.

More like 0.1%. It looks like shit, runs like crap, is most likely an asset rip from DayZ etc, plays exactly like any of those games, and there's just one map.
And I bet they got an extra nice % with their MT bullshit that wasn't supposed to happen :lol
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Rahxephon91 on September 05, 2017, 08:15:49 PM
I mean I don't really agree. The game kind of looks decent running at 60FPS. Animation and modeling can be quite decent. It doesn't seem to be an assist rip of DayZ since it's running on UE4. It also doesn't run like crap for me, but it's not like I wouldn't expect bugs from this kind of game.0
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: tiesto on September 05, 2017, 08:18:46 PM
Quote from: Tasty Meat on September 05, 2017, 02:57:54 PM
I've never even heard of this game. :thinking

I've heard of it but don't really understand what the hype is over based on the little bit I see. I'll admit that online multiplayer PC shooters aren't exactly in mine, or any of my friends, wheelhouses.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: eleuin on September 06, 2017, 12:36:29 AM
Wonder when we'll start seeing real clones? Can't imagine publishers like EA won't try to brute force themselves in as they did with mobas
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Positive Touch on September 06, 2017, 12:43:56 AM
gtav already put out a clone mode the other day. I'm sure the market will be flooded in 2018.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on September 06, 2017, 08:50:22 AM
Virgin clones

Nothing beats playing the chadoriginal.

In 15 years gaming cred and talk will be about if you played PUBG back in the day, the break out title in the genre. Just like WoW in mmo's.

Not the first one, but the break out game.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on September 06, 2017, 08:54:24 AM
Quote from: eleuin on September 06, 2017, 12:36:29 AM
Wonder when we'll start seeing real clones? Can't imagine publishers like EA won't try to brute force themselves in as they did with mobas

This genre will be so easy to get a game into they won't be able to say no.

Just wait for the inevitable battle royale + here shooter mashup at some point.

spoiler (click to show/hide)
Tom Clancys Shadow Island
Battlefield Apocalypse
Overwatch Showdown
[close]
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Positive Touch on September 15, 2017, 08:35:10 AM
r.i.p. volition
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Tasty on September 15, 2017, 08:33:57 PM
I assume that's MK8 DX.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: archie4208 on September 16, 2017, 09:56:43 AM
https://twitter.com/Steam_Spy/status/909048842234023937
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on September 19, 2017, 08:15:44 AM
I really want PUBG on Switch so I can play it always.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: chronovore on September 19, 2017, 09:13:40 AM
Quote from: Premium Lager on September 19, 2017, 08:15:44 AM
I really want PUBG on Switch so I can play it always.

I want it on PS4 so I can play it, period. On my current PC, it'd be a slideshow.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Raist on September 19, 2017, 09:23:22 AM
Quote from: chronovore on September 19, 2017, 09:13:40 AM
Quote from: Premium Lager on September 19, 2017, 08:15:44 AM
I really want PUBG on Switch so I can play it always.

I want it on PS4 so I can play it, period. On my current PC, it'd be a slideshow.

I have a feeling it's going to run like shit on consoles.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on September 19, 2017, 04:11:52 PM
PS4 would be fine too

Game will prob run fine if they optimize it
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: chronovore on September 20, 2017, 08:09:05 PM
It'll mainly depend on the competency of who ports it, and the engine on which it's based. Unreal is okay on PS4, and they'll have the xbone port's experience behind them at that point.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Great Rumbler on October 16, 2017, 10:05:25 PM
Cuphead has already blown past 1 million sales:

https://www.greenmangaming.com/newsroom/2017/10/16/cuphead-sells-1-million-units-2-weeks/
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Eteric on October 22, 2017, 11:20:36 AM
They deserve it. I still need to buy my copy.

Do you guys uh... Do Media Create around here? NPD? I don't know quite how this forum works yet.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Great Rumbler on October 22, 2017, 12:17:04 PM
Stuff like that gets posted here occasionally, but usually only if there's something interesting. You can post as much about sales stuff here as you want, though.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Nintex on October 24, 2017, 05:23:57 PM
Latest NPD software:

Software

Overall - In order of revenue, not unit sales.

1. Destiny 2*  :patel
2. NBA 2K18  :badass
3. Madden NFL 18  :ufup
4. FIFA 18  :snoop
5. Mario & Rabbids: Kingdom Battle**  :salute
6. Marvel vs. Capcom: Infinite  :mjcry
7. Grand Theft Auto V  :shaqc
8. NHL 18  :putin
9. The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild**  :checkit
10. Tom Clancy’s Rainbow Six: Siege  :snore

11. Mario Kart 8**  :trumps
12. Metroid: Samus Returns**  :itagaki
13. Pokken Tournament DX**  :huh
14. Overwatch*  :money
15. Ark: Survival Evolved**  :iface
16. Uncharted: The Lost Legacy  :goty
17. NBA Live 18  :what
18. Splatoon 2**  :heh
19. Crash Bandicoot: N. Sane Trilogy  :kobeyuck
20. Minecraft  :oreilly
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Tasty on October 24, 2017, 05:57:39 PM
Switch's evergreen titles still out in force, crazy.

That's probably a good debut for Metroid considering it's on a dying, half-decade-old platform.

Mario Odyssey is gonna be a fucking monster.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Great Rumbler on October 24, 2017, 07:45:33 PM
Would have been nice to see Metroid in the top 5 and show Nintendo that people still really care about the franchise, though...
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Assimilate on October 24, 2017, 08:31:05 PM
Who keeps buying GTA after all these years?? wtf
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: archie4208 on October 24, 2017, 08:49:44 PM
Quote from: Great Rumbler on October 24, 2017, 07:45:33 PM
Would have been nice to see Metroid in the top 5 and show Nintendo that people still really care about the franchise, though...

Superior Metroid game Hollow Knight has sold 550k copies on Steam. (http://steamspy.com/app/367520)  :bow2
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Great Rumbler on October 25, 2017, 01:02:48 AM
One of Falcom's PC games from about a decade ago is finally getting an English release:

https://youtu.be/WD4toLQwIf8
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Para-Medic on October 25, 2017, 10:45:23 AM
From 4Gamer/Gematsu here is the latest Media Create Sales. Oct.16th -22nd 2017.

Software Sales (followed by lifetime sales)

    [PS4] Gran Turismo Sport (Limited Edition Included) (SIE, 10/19/17) – 150,286 (New)
    [PS4] City Shrouded in Shadow (Bandai Namco, 10/19/17) – 48,935 (New)
    [PS4] The Evil Within 2 (Bethesda Softworks, 10/19/17) – 42,941 (New)
    [PS4] Itadaki Street: Dragon Quest & Final Fantasy 30th Anniversary (Square Enix, 10/19/17) – 42,092 (New)
    [PSV] Uta no Prince-sama: Amazing Aria & Sweet Serenade Love (Broccoli, 10/19/17) – 19,904 (New)
    [PSV] Itadaki Street: Dragon Quest & Final Fantasy 30th Anniversary (Square Enix, 10/19/17) – 18,784 (New)
    [NSW] Splatoon 2 (Nintendo, 07/21/17) – 16,483 (1,249,006)
    [NSW] Mario Kart 8 Deluxe (Nintendo, 04,28,17) – 11,142 (758,597)
    [PS4] Middle-earth: Shadow of War (Warner Bros., 10/12/17) – 8,083 (28,227)
    [NSW] The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild (Limited Edition Included) (Nintendo, 03/03/17) – 5,430 (616,383)
    [NSW] Pokken Tournament DX (Nintendo, 09/22/17) – 5,224 (102,359)
    [3DS] Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga + Bowser’s Minions (Nintendo, 10/05/17) – 5,092 (43,094)
    [PS4] FIFA 18 (Limited Editions and Bundles Included) (Electronic Arts, 09/29/17) – 3,910 (79,701)
    [PS4] No Heroes Allowed! VR (SIE, 10/14/17) – 3,464 (8,925)
    [PS4] Pro Evolution Soccer 2018 (Konami, 09/14/17) – 2,987 (105,005)
    [3DS] The Snack World: Trejarers (Level-5, 08/10/17) – 2,882 (183,780)
    [NSW] Monster Hunter XX Nintendo Switch Ver. (Capcom, 08/25/17) – 2,814 (158,448)
    [3DS] Animal Crossing: New Leaf Amiibo+ (Nintendo, 11/23/16) – 2,748 (256,413)
    [NSW] NBA 2K18 (2K Games, 10/17/17) – 2,689 (New)
    [PS4] The Legend of Heroes: Trails of Cold Steel III (Limited Edition Included) (Falcom, 09/28/17) – 2,473 (107,772)

Hardware Sales (followed by last week’s sales)

    Switch – 31,092 (40,803)
    PlayStation 4 – 25,075 (16,933)
    New 2DS LL – 8,449 (10,569)
    PlayStation 4 Pro – 6,203(5,773)
    New 3DS LL – 6,187 (8,369)
    PlayStation Vita – 3,535 (3,938)
    2DS – 1,367 (1,565)
    New 3DS – 195 (242)
    Xbox One – 69 (71)
    PlayStation 3 – 50 (65)
    Wii U – 40 (58)
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Eteric on October 25, 2017, 11:26:17 AM
Switch dropped a bit. Wonder if it's in prep for Mario Odyssey?
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Tasty on October 25, 2017, 01:10:17 PM
TEW2 in top three. :obama
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Eteric on October 25, 2017, 03:59:44 PM
Before I forget, anyone here part of the sales age discord? I'd like an invite if possible.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Huff on October 25, 2017, 06:33:50 PM
I don't think anyone here particularly cares about sales too much Eteric. Oscar did, but it's been a bit of a dead thread since he left.

Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Para-Medic on October 25, 2017, 11:40:57 PM
Oh guess I should clarify a bit. I'm not Sales-AGE or anything like that, I never even posted on GAF like my intro post here stated. I've got no special access or analytic tools for any numbers, only what the news outlets post. I don't track or make predictions, I'm not invested at all tbh.

I do like to see the discussions around sales though, so if I can help facilitate that by copy-pasting some charts and numbers every now and again without stepping on toes, I totally will. :D
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: team filler on October 26, 2017, 01:34:34 AM
Is nintendo winning yet?
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Corporal on October 26, 2017, 01:54:00 AM
Man, as a Ninthing sales-age during the Wii/DS era was a blast. Afterwards I only ever lurked in the sales threads.

Still, keeping an eye on the numbers is always a good idea, methinks. So, I'm gonna continue lurking here if y'all don't mind. Pray that  I won't become more active, because I'm pretty sure I was an obnoxious sales-ager.

Also: I am thoroughly spoiled by the stats and comparisons to previous weeks/franchise entries/etc on GAF. Being spoon-fed conclusions was nice.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Trent Dole on October 26, 2017, 03:15:44 AM
Quote from: filler on October 26, 2017, 01:34:34 AM
Is nintendo winning yet?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c1hLduV1p88
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: tiesto on October 26, 2017, 08:00:29 AM
Quote from: Huff on October 25, 2017, 06:33:50 PM
I don't think anyone here particularly cares about sales too much Eteric. Oscar did, but it's been a bit of a dead thread since he left.

I lurked the Media Create threads on GAF, not really one to post or get into arguments over sales, but I always liked to see what was trending in Japan and such.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Eteric on October 26, 2017, 08:43:58 AM
Quote from: filler on October 26, 2017, 01:34:34 AM
Is nintendo winning yet?

Doing really well. Hard to "win" against systems that have been out so long, though. :)
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Para-Medic on October 26, 2017, 12:15:17 PM
Lately Nintendo Switch is always on top, but if you combine PS4+Pro sales you'll notice that often times the PS4 family is still king.

It goes back and forth depending on the software releases. PS4 technically "won" this week because of the new games for example. Switch is going to dominate for the next month+ on the back of Mario I think?

The stories what come out of Japan though for people trying to get Switches? Wowie. You got the raffles, the Yakuza scalpers, huge lines etc...
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: team filler on October 26, 2017, 01:11:45 PM
I'm only happy in life when Nintendo hardware sells the most :)
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Joe Molotov on October 26, 2017, 03:58:07 PM
Quote from: filler on October 26, 2017, 01:11:45 PM
I'm only happy in life when Nintendo hardware sells the most :)

Well, you'll probably be feeling pretty good next month.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: team filler on October 26, 2017, 05:10:55 PM
Being a Ninthing is the best. I don't even need to own the systems or play the games to get enjoyment  :rejoice
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Para-Medic on October 27, 2017, 03:34:18 AM
On another note, Square-Enix has announced that the FFXII Remaster has sold over 1 Million copies across digital and physical. To celebrate this announcement they also released a new piece of artwork. (Click Spoiler, Right Click image> View Image, to see fullsize)

spoiler (click to show/hide)
(http://gematsu.com/gallery/albums/final-fantasy-xii-the-zodiac-age/october-26-2017/Final-Fantasy-XII-The-Zodiac-Age_2017_10-26-17_001.jpg)
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Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Positive Touch on October 27, 2017, 06:53:54 AM
penelo's pose  :-\
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on October 27, 2017, 07:14:17 AM
Love all the ninthings coming out here in this thread now Switch is selling well
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Para-Medic on October 27, 2017, 10:35:17 AM
Quote from: Positive Touch on October 27, 2017, 06:53:54 AM
penelo's pose  :-\

The whole piece seems weird, maybe even rushed or something, compared to what is normally stunning artwork from the guy. Like I have the LE Guidebook for the FFXII remaster and the artwork within man...  :whew
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Positive Touch on October 27, 2017, 10:55:25 AM
o shit the guide has artwork in it? ffxii artwork is surprisingly hard to find
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: OathToOrder on October 27, 2017, 12:04:55 PM
Quote from: Eteric on October 25, 2017, 03:59:44 PM
Before I forget, anyone here part of the sales age discord? I'd like an invite if possible.

Invites are still closed but Vena is the admin of the sales Discord.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Great Rumbler on October 30, 2017, 10:08:53 PM
Some Switch sales data:

Hardware - 7.63 million
Software - 27.48 million

The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild: 4.70 million
Mario Kart 8 Deluxe: 4.42 million
Splatoon 2: 3.61 million
1-2-Switch: 1.37 million
ARMS: 1.35 million
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Raist on October 31, 2017, 03:15:59 AM
PS4 at 67.5M (shipped). Q2 up YoY (4.2 vs. 3.9).
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Joe Molotov on October 31, 2017, 10:35:44 AM
Nintendo is predicting that the Switch will outsell the Wii U (~14 million) by next March. They're obviously gonna be shipping a ton of Switches this November and December.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: CrazyDiamond on October 31, 2017, 11:23:58 AM
I'm glad Splatoon and Arms sold well. Hoping for more new IPs.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: team filler on October 31, 2017, 02:24:10 PM
 :smug
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Corporal on October 31, 2017, 05:25:03 PM
So, about that 500k MariO sales in Japan rumour. Am I allowed to enthusiastically wave my official Nintendo MJGA flag and hope it turns out true?
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Van Cruncheon on October 31, 2017, 07:35:42 PM
i dig the switch but when we gonna get some decent games? super sonic odyssey is trash, as are arms and splatoon. someone get me something for adults stat
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Tasty on October 31, 2017, 07:56:50 PM
Gal Gun 2 is coming, bro.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Van Cruncheon on October 31, 2017, 08:15:56 PM
jesus fire emblem warriors is dry
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Rahxephon91 on October 31, 2017, 09:14:28 PM
I would have said Xenoblade......but those visuals and dialogue...
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Mr. Gundam on November 01, 2017, 12:25:04 PM
You guys are slacking' on yer sales.

Software Sales (followed by lifetime sales)

[NSW] Super Mario Odyssey (Nintendo, 10/27/17) – 462,038 (New)
[PS4] ARK: Survival Evolved (Spike Chunsoft, 10/26/17) – 70,177 (New)
[3DS] Shin Megami Tensei: Strange Journey Redux (Limited Edition Included) (Atlus, 10/26/17) – 60,848 (New)
[PS4] Assassin’s Creed Origins (Ubisoft, 10/27/17) – 49,419 (New)
[PS4] Taiko Drum Master: Drum Session (Bundle Edition Included) (Bandai Namco, 10/26/17) – 28,245 (New)
[NSW] Splatoon 2 (Nintendo, 07/21/17) – 22,445 (1,271,451)
[PS4] Gran Turismo Sport (Limited Edition Included) (SIE, 10/19/17) – 17,670 (167,956)
[3DS] Idol Time PriPara: Yume All-Star Live! (Takara Tomy A.R.T.S, 10/26/17) – 14,885 (New)
[NSW] Mario Kart 8 Deluxe (Nintendo, 04,28,17) – 13,936 (772,533)
[PS4] The Evil Within 2 (Bethesda Softworks, 10/19/17) – 12,624 (55,565)
[PS4] Itadaki Street: Dragon Quest & Final Fantasy 30th Anniversary (Square Enix, 10/19/17) – 9,570 (51,662)
[PS4] City Shrouded in Shadow (Bandai Namco, 10/19/17) – 8,117 (57,052)
[NSW] The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild (Limited Edition Included) (Nintendo, 03/03/17) – 6,307 (622,690)
[3DS] 12-Sai. Torokeru Puzzle: Futari no Harmony (Happinet, 10/26/17) – 6,195 (New)
[PS4] Middle-earth: Shadow of War (Warner Bros., 10/12/17) – 5,869 (34,095)
[NSW] Pokken Tournament DX (Nintendo, 09/22/17) – 4,588 (106,947)
[PSV] Itadaki Street: Dragon Quest & Final Fantasy 30th Anniversary (Square Enix, 10/19/17) – 4,210 (22,994)
[3DS] Animal Crossing: New Leaf Amiibo+ (Nintendo, 11/23/16) – 3,815 (260,228)
[3DS] Rune Factory 4 (Platinum Collection) (Marvelous, 10/26/17) – 3,567 (New)
[3DS] Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga + Bowser’s Minions (Nintendo, 10/05/17) – 3,480 (46,575)
Hardware Sales (followed by last week’s sales)

Switch – 126,701 (31,092)
PlayStation 4 – 18,719 (25,075)
New 2DS LL – 9,203 (8,449)
New 3DS LL – 6,448 (6,187)
PlayStation 4 Pro – 5,934 (6,203)
PlayStation Vita – 3,705 (3,535)
2DS – 1,412 (1,367)
New 3DS – 220 (195)
Xbox One – 97 (69)
PlayStation 3 – 45 (50)
Wii U – 41 (40)
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Great Rumbler on November 01, 2017, 01:11:04 PM
Anybody have historical first week numbers for previous mainline Mario games?
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Purple Filth on November 01, 2017, 01:24:57 PM
Quote from: Mr. Gundam on November 01, 2017, 12:25:04 PM
You guys are slacking' on yer sales.

Software Sales (followed by lifetime sales)

[NSW] Super Mario Odyssey (Nintendo, 10/27/17) – 462,038 (New)
[PS4] ARK: Survival Evolved (Spike Chunsoft, 10/26/17) – 70,177 (New)
[3DS] Shin Megami Tensei: Strange Journey Redux (Limited Edition Included) (Atlus, 10/26/17) – 60,848 (New)
[PS4] Assassin’s Creed Origins (Ubisoft, 10/27/17) – 49,419 (New)
[PS4] Taiko Drum Master: Drum Session (Bundle Edition Included) (Bandai Namco, 10/26/17) – 28,245 (New)
[NSW] Splatoon 2 (Nintendo, 07/21/17) – 22,445 (1,271,451)
[PS4] Gran Turismo Sport (Limited Edition Included) (SIE, 10/19/17) – 17,670 (167,956)
[3DS] Idol Time PriPara: Yume All-Star Live! (Takara Tomy A.R.T.S, 10/26/17) – 14,885 (New)
[NSW] Mario Kart 8 Deluxe (Nintendo, 04,28,17) – 13,936 (772,533)
[PS4] The Evil Within 2 (Bethesda Softworks, 10/19/17) – 12,624 (55,565)
[PS4] Itadaki Street: Dragon Quest & Final Fantasy 30th Anniversary (Square Enix, 10/19/17) – 9,570 (51,662)
[PS4] City Shrouded in Shadow (Bandai Namco, 10/19/17) – 8,117 (57,052)
[NSW] The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild (Limited Edition Included) (Nintendo, 03/03/17) – 6,307 (622,690)
[3DS] 12-Sai. Torokeru Puzzle: Futari no Harmony (Happinet, 10/26/17) – 6,195 (New)
[PS4] Middle-earth: Shadow of War (Warner Bros., 10/12/17) – 5,869 (34,095)
[NSW] Pokken Tournament DX (Nintendo, 09/22/17) – 4,588 (106,947)
[PSV] Itadaki Street: Dragon Quest & Final Fantasy 30th Anniversary (Square Enix, 10/19/17) – 4,210 (22,994)
[3DS] Animal Crossing: New Leaf Amiibo+ (Nintendo, 11/23/16) – 3,815 (260,228)
[3DS] Rune Factory 4 (Platinum Collection) (Marvelous, 10/26/17) – 3,567 (New)
[3DS] Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga + Bowser’s Minions (Nintendo, 10/05/17) – 3,480 (46,575)
Hardware Sales (followed by last week’s sales)

Switch – 126,701 (31,092)
PlayStation 4 – 18,719 (25,075)
New 2DS LL – 9,203 (8,449)
New 3DS LL – 6,448 (6,187)
PlayStation 4 Pro – 5,934 (6,203)
PlayStation Vita – 3,705 (3,535)
2DS – 1,412 (1,367)
New 3DS – 220 (195)
Xbox One – 97 (69)
PlayStation 3 – 45 (50)
Wii U – 41 (40)

That fight for the bottom :whew
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Mr. Gundam on November 01, 2017, 01:25:48 PM
Quote from: Great Rumbler on November 01, 2017, 01:11:04 PM
Anybody have historical first week numbers for previous mainline Mario games?

(2007) Galaxy - 250,585
(2010) Galaxy 2 - 339,901
(2011) 3D Land - 343,492
(2013) 3D World - 99,588
(2017) Odyssey - 462,038
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Great Rumbler on November 01, 2017, 01:27:39 PM
Certainly puts the Odyssey numbers in context [i.e. they're really good].
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Mr. Gundam on November 01, 2017, 01:28:45 PM
Strange seeing Ark at #2.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Rahxephon91 on November 01, 2017, 01:31:07 PM
Quote from: Mr. Gundam on November 01, 2017, 01:28:45 PM
Strange seeing Ark at #2.
It really isn't. Western open world games have been doing solid in Japan for awhile.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Mr. Gundam on November 01, 2017, 01:33:01 PM
Quote from: Rahxephon91 on November 01, 2017, 01:31:07 PM
Quote from: Mr. Gundam on November 01, 2017, 01:28:45 PM
Strange seeing Ark at #2.
It really isn't. Western open world games have been doing solid in Japan for awhile.

The only thing I knew about Ark was "dinosaurs!"
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Mr. Gundam on November 01, 2017, 01:41:34 PM
Developers have already thrown into the PS4 pot, so you won't get dominant Switch support from 3rd parties. Probably more multi-plat releases and the occasional exclusive like SMT. They still haven't announced a release date for DQ11 and are awfully quiet about it.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Mr. Gundam on November 01, 2017, 04:47:11 PM
I don't have enough time to play my PS4, so getting another system makes no sense. I'm sure the new Mario is fun.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Himu on November 01, 2017, 05:03:38 PM
Don't compare switch to ps4. Please stop comparing Switch to ps4. Repeat after me,"I will stop comparing Switch to PS4!"
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Mr. Gundam on November 01, 2017, 05:04:16 PM
 ???
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Himu on November 01, 2017, 05:05:38 PM
They aren't even remotely competing in the same space for the same crowd. Switch is a hybrid with a completely different set of expectations that comes with being both a console and a handheld. As I hypothesized, support that Nintendo had for 3ds would transfer over to the Switch.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Himu on November 01, 2017, 05:41:26 PM
Robot-san said that Switch isn't necessary because ps4 has third party support in the bag. The problem is that they're not necessarily rivals so that's not true.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on November 01, 2017, 06:06:10 PM
LOL at the low Gran Snorismo sales
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: team filler on November 01, 2017, 06:32:49 PM
suck it hatahs, nintendo dominating the sales charts once again  :aah :whew
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Mr. Gundam on November 01, 2017, 06:52:26 PM
Quote from: Cindi Mayweather on November 01, 2017, 05:41:26 PM
Robot-san said that Switch isn't necessary because ps4 has third party support in the bag. The problem is that they're not necessarily rivals so that's not true.

I said that I don't see 3rd party support jumping ship completely and I can't justify buying a Switch because I don't have time for the games I already have. Those were totally separate statements and you seem to have read into it and/or took it personally or something.

 ???

I'll just stick to my niche mecha games.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Tasty on November 01, 2017, 07:35:54 PM
I wanna see Odyssey compared to the NSMB series.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Mr. Gundam on November 01, 2017, 07:37:24 PM
Quote from: Tasty Meat on November 01, 2017, 07:35:54 PM
I wanna see Odyssey compared to the NSMB series.

I was surprised I couldn't find more in-depth comparisons this morning on Resetera.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Great Rumbler on November 01, 2017, 07:40:52 PM
Went digging through some old threads on GAF:

New Super Mario Bros. Wii - 934.739
New Super Mario Bros. U - 163.528
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Corporal on November 02, 2017, 08:04:16 AM
Everybody and their cousins are playing MarO, but I instead bought Snake Pass at 50% off. I feel like such a rebel right now. :smug

Anyway. Those are some solid MariO numbers. 125k switches ain't too shabby either. So, I'm guessing that's all they have for switch consoles in the big ol' stockpile for the foreseeable future? Gotta suck to have so much demand and being unable to deliver, while simultaneously squandering the goodwill of your consumers and hopefuls.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Joe Molotov on November 02, 2017, 11:48:02 AM
http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20171102005773/en/

Quote
In just five days, the new Super Mario Odyssey video game for the Nintendo Switch system sold more than 1.1 million units in the U.S. alone. That makes it the fastest-selling Super Mario game ever in the U.S., surpassing the New Super Mario Bros. Wii game
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Corporal on November 02, 2017, 12:48:33 PM
Nintendo's all out of bubblegum again.

Now if you'll excuse me, I gotta watch some old Mario ads in celebration.  :doge :nsfw :doge
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: team filler on November 02, 2017, 06:59:41 PM
All praise be to Allah
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Clockwork5 on November 03, 2017, 02:58:24 AM
I am a bit shocked it is selling faster than NSMB in the US. It suggests a really high attach rate.

I really hope Nintendo makes good on the early success of the system.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on November 03, 2017, 07:29:10 AM
Nintendo gets complacent very fast.  BOTW and Odyssey was as good as it was because Nintendo was pretty desperate.  Now that Switch is selling like gangbusters, I'm dreading the inevitable Wii Music era of Nintendo where they just get by doing as little as possible.  I'd like to be wrong but this seems to be their MO for the past couple of generations.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: OathToOrder on November 03, 2017, 08:11:17 AM
Quote from: Olivia Wilde Homo on November 03, 2017, 07:29:10 AM
Nintendo gets complacent very fast.  BOTW and Odyssey was as good as it was because Nintendo was pretty desperate.  Now that Switch is selling like gangbusters, I'm dreading the inevitable Wii Music era of Nintendo where they just get by doing as little as possible.  I'd like to be wrong but this seems to be their MO for the past couple of generations.

Not gonna happen. Iwata retired (bitch) and Kimishima is a hardcore businessman with Yakuza ties. He reminds me lot of BASED Yamauchi.

I think that they will keep re-iterating on this brilliant hybrid concept with better hardware each generation (see nvidia's statement about long time partnership).

Nintendo always wins.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Corporal on November 03, 2017, 09:07:31 AM
I am still wondering what brainfart made them go with the whole "chat via smartphone app" approach. I mean, it's not even using the Bluetooth connectivity. Just how far up your own arse do you have to be to even consider that squid attachment thing with its cable-only hookups. If that's a business or Yakuza decision, then I want Iwata back. :maf

...

I'm more concerned whether Nintendo can finally grab some consistent third party support this time around. Vita dying with more or less opportune timing will help at least in regard to the niche/deplorables segments, but they will have to work hard to whittle away the established communities and fanbase commitments to existing competing platforms.

I mean, I'm happy with my Doom (etc) showcase pieces, but unless that translates into prolonged support and a thriving and profitable market for third parties is the question.
Basically, I'm fearing the Wii scenario of test games, Nintendo franchise clones, Babiez shovelware and loads of bankrupt or fired "hardcore" Devs whose games sell three copies each because the fans for those kinds of games just aren't on the platform and have little incentive to leave their current feeding grounds. The situation is eerily similar, with the exception of the Vita users being up for grabs this time around.

Well, I'll be happy with even a Wii scenario because I'm all about slobbering that delicious Nintendo knob, but still. Look at how wretchedly the Wii died. I'd like to see switch fade out (when its time comes) without such humiliation.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: OathToOrder on November 03, 2017, 09:35:20 AM
We're already seeing better 3rd party support than we've seen on a Nintendo console in a long time. Sure, there are some stinkers like Crapcom but Switch has completely different demographics than Wii. It has a gimmick that is actually very good and resonates with 'gamers" unlike Wii and WiiU.

As for turd party, Nintendo makes their consoles for their strong selection of 1st party IPs unlike MS/Sony with 3rd party so I've accepted that Nintendo consoles will never have 3rd party support on par.

All successful consoles get shovelware.

I agree about the voice chat thing, utterly stupid and very Nintendo-like.

Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: thisismyusername on November 03, 2017, 12:50:21 PM
Quote from: OathToOrder on November 03, 2017, 09:35:20 AM
We're already seeing better 3rd party support than we've seen on a Nintendo console in a long time.

Yeah, I'm honestly surprised by that. Outside of INDIEZZZZZZZzzzzzz, it's actually getting some more ports. But we'll see how long that lasts. Wii U got some early 360 era ports and then nose-dived after those bomb'd.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Corporal on November 03, 2017, 01:35:05 PM
Yup, the initial outpouring of support is not the problem.

Wii launched with quite a few big name brands as well, and for the first two years or so coasted along quite nicely. Sure, quality was hit or miss, but third parties at worst made solidly average efforts to cash in. After sales either didn't pick up or actually declined, third parties were out of there faster than you could say "the unprecedented partnership with EA on WiiU will fix what went wrong with the Wii!".  ::)

//OFF TOPIC RANT
I'm still sore that Boom Blox went bust. Or Blast Works with its cool Nintendo network integration. Or the last ditch attempt from Hudson to save their hides by releasing competent rereleases of older games on Wiiware. Red Steel was a good effort as well. Started out massively overhyped and was shunned when it actually released a good sequel. Heck, while The Conduit might never be anything more than a B tier franchise, it was still an honest effort. On another console with an active shooter fanbase it would have skimmed off a few unlucky lambs with well meaning grandmas or fifteen year olds with too much lunch money, but nobody who was still left on Wii had any interest in those kinds of games, much less middling ones. Or how about the FFCC franchise, which pretty much died on Wii.
//END

Sigh.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on November 03, 2017, 05:29:00 PM
Quote from: Mr. Gundam on November 01, 2017, 04:47:11 PM
I don't have enough time to play my PS4, so getting another system makes no sense. I'm sure the new Mario is fun.

I didnt have time to play on ps4 either, but somehow with the switch i sneak in an hour here or there...
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Tasty on November 03, 2017, 11:44:07 PM
Quote from: Olivia Wilde Homo on November 03, 2017, 07:29:10 AM
Nintendo gets complacent very fast.  BOTW and Odyssey was as good as it was because Nintendo was pretty desperate.  Now that Switch is selling like gangbusters, I'm dreading the inevitable Wii Music era of Nintendo where they just get by doing as little as possible.  I'd like to be wrong but this seems to be their MO for the past couple of generations.

DKC Returns, Galaxy 2, Excitebots, Punch-Out, Sin and Punishment 2, and Xenoblade came out after Wii Music. There were also pretty great third party titles too, which is usually the best part of a Nintendo console that's successful out of the gate. Though I don't dig the lag time where third-parties have to ramp up because they had no faith. Between the id and indie stuff though, Switch seems to be doing well in that regard.

That said, that time also included Other M and Skyward Sword, so point taken.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Tasty on November 03, 2017, 11:53:31 PM
Quote from: Corporal on November 03, 2017, 01:35:05 PM
Yup, the initial outpouring of support is not the problem.

Wii launched with quite a few big name brands as well, and for the first two years or so coasted along quite nicely. Sure, quality was hit or miss, but third parties at worst made solidly average efforts to cash in. After sales either didn't pick up or actually declined, third parties were out of there faster than you could say "the unprecedented partnership with EA on WiiU will fix what went wrong with the Wii!".  ::)

//OFF TOPIC RANT
I'm still sore that Boom Blox went bust. Or Blast Works with its cool Nintendo network integration. Or the last ditch attempt from Hudson to save their hides by releasing competent rereleases of older games on Wiiware. Red Steel was a good effort as well. Started out massively overhyped and was shunned when it actually released a good sequel. Heck, while The Conduit might never be anything more than a B tier franchise, it was still an honest effort. On another console with an active shooter fanbase it would have skimmed off a few unlucky lambs with well meaning grandmas or fifteen year olds with too much lunch money, but nobody who was still left on Wii had any interest in those kinds of games, much less middling ones. Or how about the FFCC franchise, which pretty much died on Wii.
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Sigh.

The Conduit did well considering it was a pretty shitty game (whose claim to fame was "looks good for a Wii game" in an era where 360 and PS3 were a thing), it got a sequel after all.

FFCC died because Square took what people loved about the series (multiplayer) and jettisoned it out the window in favor of a linear, story-based, single-player minigame-laden wagglefest. The two WiiWare games (My Life as a King/Darklord) actually sold very well IIRC despite also being departures from the series formula.

FFCC is a sore spot for me because they had gotten really close to perfecting it with Echoes of Time. It was a linear, story-based game that felt like Final Fantasy, while also being a multiplayer, online-capable, custom character loot-fest. It was fun as fuck and deserved a far better online community than the DS could give it (something Square even realized when they ported it to the Wii... unfortunately with little effort, literally reusing DS assets on the big screen.)
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: CrazyDiamond on November 04, 2017, 12:42:43 AM
Nintendo found a pretty good place with the Switch. Besides their typical Nintendo audience, they have the casual portable 3DS audience and the niche Vita audience. Install base will hopefully atract some 3rd parties and they're set.

While it exists in the same market as the PS4 and PCs, they don't dispute an audience as directly as the PS4 and the Xbone, for instance, and it'll probably keep going because Sony completely gave up on the Vita.

Anyway I think it's good that each console is focusing on its own thing so they can do it better. And fuck Microsoft
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: CrazyDiamond on November 04, 2017, 12:49:01 AM
And Crytal Bearers failed because it fucking sucked. I was so hyped for that shit, it was such a let down.

The Wii port of Echoes of Time was lousy as shit; it's pratically a DS emulator. But I loved that shit, I played so much of it. I seriously hope we get a new Crystal Chronicles soon
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Great Rumbler on November 04, 2017, 01:18:44 AM
Red Steel was absolute garbage, straight up. It deserved to bomb and get flushed down the memory drain. Maybe the sequel was a cool game, I dunno.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: thisismyusername on November 04, 2017, 01:26:24 AM
I remember folks hyping Red Steel and then wet-fart-sound-here. :doge
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Tasty on November 04, 2017, 12:24:33 PM
Those Game Informer bullshots :goty2
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Raist on November 05, 2017, 02:49:07 PM
Anyone who bought those shots as real, as well as the "reenactment" of how the waggle was going to work, only has themselves to blame.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: HardcoreRetro on November 05, 2017, 03:32:09 PM
Quote from: Great Rumbler on November 04, 2017, 01:18:44 AM
Red Steel was absolute garbage, straight up. It deserved to bomb and get flushed down the memory drain. Maybe the sequel was a cool game, I dunno.

If you got the motion plus you should give Red Steel 2 a try. Really solid fps game with pretty good use of the motion controls.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Tasty on November 05, 2017, 04:12:55 PM
Quote from: Raist on November 05, 2017, 02:49:07 PM
Anyone who bought those shots as real, as well as the "reenactment" of how the waggle was going to work, only has themselves to blame.

They were the first shots ever from the system, way before we knew anything about how powerful it was or indeed what its name even was.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: a slime appears on November 07, 2017, 11:32:18 PM
Switch is on-track to outsell the Wii U’s lifetime sales within its first year. :lol
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on November 08, 2017, 02:40:31 AM
Quote from: Tasty Meat on November 05, 2017, 04:12:55 PM
Quote from: Raist on November 05, 2017, 02:49:07 PM
Anyone who bought those shots as real, as well as the "reenactment" of how the waggle was going to work, only has themselves to blame.

They were the first shots ever from the system, way before we knew anything about how powerful it was or indeed what its name even was.

i believed them too because they didnt seem to be good just nice and ok’ish

then i hooked up the wii to my hdtv  :-X

Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Trent Dole on November 08, 2017, 06:08:24 AM
https://twitter.com/Toadsanime/status/928030472537559041
OF ALL TIME! :yeshrug
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on November 08, 2017, 06:55:22 AM
85

85

 :lol
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: team filler on November 08, 2017, 10:46:14 PM
GTA is the Garth Brooks of vidya
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: a slime appears on November 09, 2017, 10:05:57 PM
The Leslie Benzies story is probably the most epic screw-over in video game history.

He is the man responsible for GTAV's sales.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: thisismyusername on November 10, 2017, 05:24:17 PM
Quote from: a slime appears on November 09, 2017, 10:05:57 PM
The Leslie Benzies story is probably the most epic screw-over in video game history.

He is the man responsible for GTAV's sales.

Fill those of us in that didn't follow this drama?
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Raist on November 10, 2017, 05:52:09 PM
Went on a sabbatical after GTA shipped (for quite some time IIRC), never came back, now suing R* for unpaid royalties.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Purple Filth on November 10, 2017, 10:03:32 PM
Quote from: Raist on November 10, 2017, 05:52:09 PM
Went on a sabbatical after GTA shipped (for quite some time IIRC), never came back, now suing R* for unpaid royalties.

And was apparently their "closer" so he ensured GTA V and other games they worked on were wrapped up and ready to ship.

But the main one was that he was apparently the main proponent for the GTAV Online mode when the Housers didn't give a flying fuck and that thing has made them fucking BANK  :lol.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Clockwork5 on November 14, 2017, 08:49:16 AM
I will never understand why you idiots buy GTA5 over and over again....
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: chronovore on November 14, 2017, 07:31:38 PM
Quote from: Rahxephon91 on November 01, 2017, 01:31:07 PM
Quote from: Mr. Gundam on November 01, 2017, 01:28:45 PM
Strange seeing Ark at #2.
It really isn't. Western open world games have been doing solid in Japan for awhile.
Kinda. Japan also insists that their games should run reliably, which Ark doesn't, really.

Quote from: Mr. Gundam on November 01, 2017, 01:41:34 PM
Developers have already thrown into the PS4 pot, so you won't get dominant Switch support from 3rd parties. Probably more multi-plat releases and the occasional exclusive like SMT. They still haven't announced a release date for DQ11 and are awfully quiet about it.
Quote from: Mr. Gundam on November 01, 2017, 06:52:26 PM
Quote from: Cindi Mayweather on November 01, 2017, 05:41:26 PM
Robot-san said that Switch isn't necessary because ps4 has third party support in the bag. The problem is that they're not necessarily rivals so that's not true.

I said that I don't see 3rd party support jumping ship completely and I can't justify buying a Switch because I don't have time for the games I already have. Those were totally separate statements and you seem to have read into it and/or took it personally or something.

 ???

I'll just stick to my niche mecha games.
Your initial statement was correct. 3rd-party on Nintendo has been "sucking hind tit" since the N64. When Nintendo comes out of the gate and stubs their toe, such as with the NGC or Wii U, the developers are caught out supporting a small userbase. When the next system rolls out, Nintendo is very gracious about courting 3rd-party developers but, even when the hardware sells, most of the consumers seem to only want Mario or Zelda products. We've seen major efforts come out specifically for the platform and still fall on their face.

You're also fair to compare Switch despite its hybrid status, because it's also advertised as a home console, not just mobile.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Trent Dole on November 15, 2017, 01:57:48 AM
Quote from: Clockwork5 on November 14, 2017, 08:49:16 AM
I will never understand why you idiots buy GTA5 over and over again....
I didn't even buy it once. :pacspit
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: CrazyDiamond on November 15, 2017, 02:24:00 PM
Media Create Sales: 11/6/17 – 11/12/17
https://gematsu.com/2017/11/media-create-sales-11617-111217

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Software Sales (followed by lifetime sales)

[NSW] Super Mario Odyssey (Nintendo, 10/27/17) – 73,315 (652,284)
[PS4] Call of Duty: WWII (SIE, 11/03/17) – 67,044 (235,368)
[NSW] Splatoon 2 (Nintendo, 07/21/17) – 23,130 (1,318,138)
[PS4] Need for Speed: Payback (EA, 11/10/17) – 20,964 (New)
[NSW] Mario Kart 8 Deluxe (Nintendo, 04,28,17) – 14,027 (802,472)
[PS4] Assassin’s Creed Origins (Ubisoft, 10/27/17) – 11,051 (82,742)
[PS4] ARK: Survival Evolved (Spike Chunsoft, 10/26/17) – 10,253 (103,800)
[3DS] Style Savvy: Styling Star (Nintendo, 11/03/17) – 9,650 (41,826)
[PS4] .hack//G.U. Last Recode (Limited Edition Included) (Bandai Namco, 11/02/17) – 6,659 (68,475)
[PS4] Sonic Forces (Sega, 11/09/17) – 5,938 (New)
[PS4] Occultic;Nine (5pb., 11/09/17) – 5,846 (New)
[NSW] The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild (Limited Edition Included) (Nintendo, 03/03/17) – 5,498 (634,850)
[PS4] Gran Turismo Sport (Limited Edition Included) (SIE, 10/19/17) – 5,439 (182,440)
[NSW] Sonic Forces (Sega, 11/09/17) – 4,686 (New)
[PSV] Occultic;Nine (5pb., 11/09/17) – 4,595 (New)
[PS4] DJMAX Respect (Limited Edition Included) (Arc System Works, 11/09/17) – 4,376 (New)
[PS4] Taiko Drum Master: Drum Session (Bundle Edition Included) (Bandai Namco, 10/26/17) – 4,002 (39,925)
[NSW] Pokken Tournament DX (Nintendo, 09/22/17) – 3,862 (115,691)
[3DS] Shin Megami Tensei: Strange Journey Redux (Limited Edition Included) (Atlus, 10/26/17) – 3,533 (74,180)
[3DS] Animal Crossing: New Leaf Amiibo+ (Nintendo, 11/23/16) – 3,085 (267,322)

Hardware Sales (followed by last week’s sales)

Switch – 79,958 (64,387)
PlayStation 4 – 20,021 (21,830)
New 2DS LL – 10,323 (11,116)
New 3DS LL – 7,296 (7,914)
PlayStation 4 Pro – 6,037 (6,993)
PlayStation Vita – 3,210 (3,576)
2DS – 1,484 (1,539)
Xbox One X – 1,344 (New)
New 3DS – 266 (287)
Xbox One – 121 (114)
PlayStation 3 – 41 (56)
Wii U – 36 (38)

Sonic Team is ded
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Positive Touch on November 15, 2017, 02:31:36 PM
lmaoooo @ gamers collectively abandoning sonic team after we get a taste of real quality
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Joe Molotov on November 15, 2017, 02:57:08 PM
Sonic Team is this guy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LIzp5aL1Hf4
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Tasty on November 15, 2017, 04:14:10 PM
Last Recode (a compilation of 11-year old PS2 games) in its second week outselling a brand-new Sonic on the same platform :lol :lol :lol :dead
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: a slime appears on November 15, 2017, 09:13:36 PM
Quote from: Positive Touch on November 15, 2017, 02:31:36 PM
lmaoooo @ gamers collectively abandoning sonic team after we get a taste of real quality

The Sonic Mania development cost is less than 1% of what Sonic Forces cost. Sonic Team is in some serious shit.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: thisismyusername on November 15, 2017, 09:48:12 PM
Quote from: Positive Touch on November 15, 2017, 02:31:36 PM
lmaoooo @ gamers collectively abandoning sonic team after we get a taste of real quality

Wait, Sonic "Original Character Do Not Steal" Forces is actually good? :doge
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Great Rumbler on November 15, 2017, 09:58:02 PM
Quote from: thisismyusername on November 15, 2017, 09:48:12 PM
Quote from: Positive Touch on November 15, 2017, 02:31:36 PM
lmaoooo @ gamers collectively abandoning sonic team after we get a taste of real quality

Wait, Sonic "Original Character Do Not Steal" Forces is actually good? :doge

No.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: thisismyusername on November 15, 2017, 11:11:27 PM
Ah, misread. Yeah, Forces was such a weird thing to try to bring "fans" into.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: CrazyDiamond on November 15, 2017, 11:22:45 PM
Well here's to hoping Sonic Team will get their shit together after almost two decades of this shit

Or better yet, they'll just hand Sonic to more competent developers
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: benjipwns on November 16, 2017, 02:03:51 AM
The low sales are probably because of Forces' being only 720p on Xbox One.

Also the improper scaling on certain levels on the Xbox One X.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: team filler on November 16, 2017, 04:58:36 AM
sonic team was never that great
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: benjipwns on November 16, 2017, 06:23:43 AM
Quote from: Exodust on November 16, 2017, 04:16:11 AM
I like this joke more since we're talking about japanese sales.
:teehee
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Joe Molotov on November 16, 2017, 09:45:33 AM
Quote from: benjipwns on November 16, 2017, 06:23:43 AM
Quote from: Exodust on November 16, 2017, 04:16:11 AM
I like this joke more since we're talking about japanese sales.
:teehee

https://www.dualshockers.com/xbox-one-x-sold-out-japan/

:success

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Xbox One X - 1,639 units

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Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Tasty on November 16, 2017, 10:40:14 AM
Quote from: filler on November 16, 2017, 04:58:36 AM
sonic was never that great

:teehee
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Corporal on November 16, 2017, 11:08:22 AM
Why are the Japanese so happy with Calladoody:WW2? Is it the lootboxes?

I mean, CoD games did have some limited appeal previously, but this time sales seem to have stayed especially strong. Or am I having a brain fart...? Nearly 70k in its second week seems quite good - for Japan, mind.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: thisismyusername on November 16, 2017, 11:13:15 AM
Quote from: Corporal on November 16, 2017, 11:08:22 AM
Why are the Japanese so happy with Calladoody:WW2? Is it the lootboxes?

I mean, CoD games did have some limited appeal previously, but this time sales seem to have stayed especially strong. Or am I having a brain fart...? Nearly 70k in its second week seems quite good - for Japan, mind.

Japan's minority of shooter folks will generally buy new shooters, CoD included. I don't think the "fatigue" has hit them as hard as the rest of the world because they're like the "otaku"'s of the genre.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: HardcoreRetro on November 16, 2017, 11:25:40 AM
Maybe there's the option to put an anime girl on the Enola Gay in the japanese version.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Tasty on November 16, 2017, 03:24:25 PM
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According to the NPD Group, which tracks U.S. video game sales, the Nintendo Switch system was the No. 1 video game hardware in October, followed by the Super Nintendo Entertainment System: Super NES Classic Edition system in the No. 2 spot. When combined with the Nintendo 3DS family of systems, Nintendo systems accounted for two-thirds of all video game hardware sold in the United States for the second month in a row. The U.S. video game industry achieved hardware sales of more than 1 million total units in October for the first time since 2011.

The Super Mario Odyssey game for Nintendo Switch emerged as the top-selling video game of the month on the NPD sales chart, even though it launched at the end of the month on Oct. 27. The Mario Kart 8 Deluxe and The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild games for Nintendo Switch finished as the No. 10 and No. 11 individual games for the month, respectively.

PissStation 4 and Xboner getting outsold by a 27-year old retro system :miyamoto

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Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: team filler on November 16, 2017, 09:34:18 PM
Nintendo  :success
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Post by: nachobro on November 16, 2017, 10:05:03 PM
 :rejoice Nintendo :rejoice
 :playa :playa :playa :playa

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Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Corporal on November 17, 2017, 04:12:14 AM
All those sales, and Capcom still jumped ship with Monster Hunter World. :smug

(I'm still kinda iffy about treating a fixed-library mini console - and a retro/ROM based one at that - on the same level as Switch/PS4/XBone with their separate games.)

Waving my tiny Nintendo flag with extra pride today.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: archie4208 on November 17, 2017, 05:13:47 AM
Yeah but Monster Hunter actually has good graphics for once.

I'll trade Capcom's inevitable demise for that.  :rejoice
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Corporal on November 17, 2017, 05:48:02 AM
Quote from: archie4208 on November 17, 2017, 05:13:47 AM
Yeah but Monster Hunter actually has good graphics for once.

I'll trade Capcom's inevitable demise for that.  :rejoice
Now, now. MonHanWorld has good word of mouth, and seems to have a pretty good open worldish polish to the gameplay and heavy duty multiplayer involvement on consoles with an actual friendlist/online structure which should make good use of the social aspect of Monster Hunter gaming. It's a solid effort, apparently.

So who's to say they won't profit off viciously backstabbing Nintendo fanboys? It worked pretty well for them when they did it to Sony fanboys before. While they will have major pains with their home market and it's bias towards handhelds, the West may very well finally see what MonHan has to offer.

Only problem is that they could end up with a Tri situation, where people buy a moderate-to-good amount of games, but not really enough to make the whole thing worth the trouble and risk. I doubt it will crash and burn, unless it suddenly is uncovered that it's actually a bad game (lootboxes/DLC/IAP nightmares, crashes, bugs, etc).

I'm gonna miss smacking around some Dino on my way to work, though. And in a restaurant with my buddy. It's not the same without someone you can scream at and punch when the Gs charge hits perfectly (or when it doesn't :doge ).
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on November 17, 2017, 12:47:45 PM
Quote from: filler on November 16, 2017, 04:58:36 AM
sonic team was never that great

ban
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Raist on November 17, 2017, 06:10:23 PM
Oh shit, XboneX tearing up the charts in Japan.

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Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Tasty on November 17, 2017, 07:52:08 PM
Should have sold 7 fewer.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: archie4208 on December 01, 2017, 04:27:43 AM
https://personacentral.com/persona-5-has-shipped-over-2-million-copies-worldwide/

That's a lot of waifus.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Great Rumbler on December 01, 2017, 05:57:58 PM
That's well above what any other Persona game has sold [including sales from remakes].
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: team filler on December 02, 2017, 03:41:53 AM
where the sales?
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: benjipwns on December 02, 2017, 03:46:37 AM
They didn't sell more than a handful, they shipped those all to the bottom of the ocean as part of a write-off. You know all these companies, they just write it off!
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: team filler on December 03, 2017, 01:36:31 AM
I need more sales, benji!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: HardcoreRetro on December 05, 2017, 06:50:05 AM
Quote from: benjipwns on December 02, 2017, 03:46:37 AM
They didn't sell more than a handful, they shipped those all to the bottom of the ocean as part of a write-off. You know all these companies, they just write it off!

That's not called shipping. It's called submarining.

Benji, Benji... What a maroon.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Tasty on December 05, 2017, 04:49:46 PM
Quote from: benjipwns on December 02, 2017, 03:46:37 AM
They didn't sell more than a handful, they shipped those all to the bottom of the ocean as part of a write-off. You know all these companies, they just write it off!

You don't even know what a write-off is.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Joe Molotov on December 05, 2017, 04:53:00 PM
tfw when your mom walks in on you writing off  :noah
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Tasty on December 05, 2017, 11:24:43 PM
Quote from: Joe Molotov on December 05, 2017, 04:53:00 PM
tfw when your mom walks in on you writing off  :noah

But they do. And they're the ones writing it off!
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Raist on December 08, 2017, 05:16:13 PM
Lootfront 2 bombed (relatively speaking). Less that half of the original's first month sales in the US :lol
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Rahxephon91 on December 11, 2017, 02:00:57 AM
Wonder if it's because of the first game or the loot stuff.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Corporal on December 11, 2017, 04:55:25 AM
Probably more of the former than the latter.

A bad prequel will poison word of mouth. Lootboxes that affect progression are too complex a concept to spread as readily.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: CrazyDiamond on December 11, 2017, 04:59:24 AM
Seeing government officials calling it a Star Wars themed casino would probably be enough tough

But I don't know how widespread that stuff was on regular people news
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: archie4208 on December 12, 2017, 10:38:45 AM
https://twitter.com/NintendoAmerica/status/940566931987423232

Already at ~75% of Wii U's LTD in 9 months.  :obama
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Joe Molotov on December 12, 2017, 11:24:04 AM
Quote from: archie4208 on December 12, 2017, 10:38:45 AM
https://twitter.com/NintendoAmerica/status/940566931987423232

Already at ~75% of Wii U's LTD in 9 months.  :obama

Dear Nintendo, please port the rest of the good Wii U games to the Switch (TMS#FE, Captain Toad, Tropical Freeze...and okay that's pretty much it) and we can both just forget that whole thing ever happened.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Corporal on December 12, 2017, 11:42:41 AM
Blue shells and repetitive audio samples. Yeah. That's a lot of smiles alright.  :yuck

Good pace though. Hard to believe that Nintendo still seems to have some supply issues, judging by their release tactics in  Japan.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: archie4208 on December 12, 2017, 01:21:08 PM
Quote from: Joe Molotov on December 12, 2017, 11:24:04 AM
Quote from: archie4208 on December 12, 2017, 10:38:45 AM
https://twitter.com/NintendoAmerica/status/940566931987423232

Already at ~75% of Wii U's LTD in 9 months.  :obama

Dear Nintendo, please port the rest of the good Wii U games to the Switch (TMS#FE, Captain Toad, Tropical Freeze...and okay that's pretty much it) and we can both just forget that whole thing ever happened.

>#FE
>Good

 :foodcourt
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Joe Molotov on December 12, 2017, 01:30:25 PM
Correct.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: archie4208 on December 12, 2017, 05:40:24 PM
It's basically a Persona 5 alpha (I'm pretty sure they even use the same engine).  It was fine when it came out, but I couldn't recommend it in a post P5 world.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Tasty on December 12, 2017, 06:49:38 PM
Switch sold the same as the PS4 in the same timeframe, but without a full holiday boost. :whew

Can't wait to see what the full 1-year tally is.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Joe Molotov on December 12, 2017, 08:54:53 PM
I consider it to be Persona 4.5.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: team filler on December 12, 2017, 09:36:11 PM
Quote from: archie4208 on December 12, 2017, 10:38:45 AM
https://twitter.com/NintendoAmerica/status/940566931987423232

Already at ~75% of Wii U's LTD in 9 months.  :obama
:gladbron :whoo :smug
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Great Rumbler on December 13, 2017, 12:29:07 AM
The turn around from Wii U to Switch is pretty incredible, and really shows what a totally misstep the former system was. So, in the end, what was it that killed the Wii U, but saved the Switch?
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Tasty on December 13, 2017, 01:13:21 AM
Same thing happened with GC -> Wii. Nintendo's done this boom-bust thing a couple times (and yet people still write them off when they're off their game.)
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Rahxephon91 on December 13, 2017, 01:25:12 AM
I think it's pretty clear that Nintendo consoles have to offer something the other systems don't. The Wii and it's motion controls offered something that was appealing and it was boosted by Nintendo support. The Wii U really did'nt. The tablet controller really in the end amounted to nothing and so you had a console that really was not really appealing. The Switch does thanks to being portable. I'm not saying "oh it's all a gimmick" or maybe I am, but I think that diminishes the point. Even if their consoles all have great Nintendo support they are always going to lack the games or features the mainstream wants. They aren't ever going to be the place people will go to for Madden or CoD. Even if the system was as strong as it's rivals. So they need something that makes it clear that the system is unique and with that software that makes use of it.  The Switch is so obvious in how unique it is that it is no way confusing to anyone that it's a system unlike the PS4 or Xbox. The WiiU really didn't. It has a tablet controller that does what beyond being an over-sized thing that displays maps. Oh boy!
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Trent Dole on December 13, 2017, 02:44:54 AM
Prior to the holiday season ramping up I'd regularly see switches in stores. Hell a place had one in a week or so ago even, they're not supply constrained where I am and this isn't a low pop area.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on December 13, 2017, 07:25:01 AM
Nintendo gets complacent very easily.  When a fire is lit under their asses, they are one of the best.  Which makes their lazy, complacent phases all the more frustrating.  The Switch has had a great launch year and I'll be interested to see if they keep that streak going or if they think Wii Music 2 (or whatever the Switch equivalent will be) is an acceptable leading holiday title.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Positive Touch on December 13, 2017, 08:31:18 AM
yeah i think besides being a solid system, having new hi-quality zelda and mario titles, a mario kart port, and a new splatoon all helped a ton. nintendo always suffers most when they have huge dead spaces in their first party release calendar.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: kingv on December 13, 2017, 10:35:30 AM
I care too.

I expect to see smash bros u in 18, and maybe a few other Wii U and and 3ds ports with some big hitters at the end of the year.

Really hoping for Bayo 3 in the fall. Will be there say 1!
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: kingv on December 13, 2017, 10:38:23 AM
Quote from: Trent Dole on December 13, 2017, 02:44:54 AM
Prior to the holiday season ramping up I'd regularly see switches in stores. Hell a place had one in a week or so ago even, they're not supply constrained where I am and this isn't a low pop area.

I saw a lot leading up to thanksgiving, but it seems like they are rarer but still findable after Black Friday. For example, right now, they are OOS on Amazon, but you can still get a bundle at GameStop.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Raist on December 13, 2017, 02:06:26 PM
I wouldn't draw too many conclusions on the Switch yet.

It's been launch hype + half a holiday season, with the usual cohort of diehard Nintendo fans being starved to death after the WiiU trainwreck, and pretty much every single major IP (in terms of sales) launched already. If the November NPD results leak is anything to go by, it may not end up being the massive hit it appears to at first glance.

But hopefully they keep doing reasonably well, and maybe decide putting a bit more effort into new IPs and drastic changes on old ones.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Fifstar on December 13, 2017, 05:00:44 PM
Oh c'mon.

Switch is gonna outsell Wii U in 10 months, has its big holiday season in december and there are still lots if not the biggest ips left. Pokemon? Smash Brothers? Animal Crossing? 2D Mario? Proper new Mario Kart?

Sure it probably won't keep up with the ps4 Sales but the Switch will definetly be a huge success dir Nintendo. You don't sell 10 Million systems without a holiday season if you're not doing some things right.

Imagine the damage Pokemon + a possible pricedrop might do in december 2018.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Tasty on December 13, 2017, 05:12:14 PM
Pokemon alone ensures this thing will outsell the GameCube, and probably the N64 too.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: team filler on December 13, 2017, 06:10:02 PM
nintendo combined their handheld and console teams as well as markets. Winning!  :success :miyamoto
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: archie4208 on December 13, 2017, 06:35:56 PM
Now I only have to buy one underpowered system instead of two.

And people say Nintendo isn't consumer friendly.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: HardcoreRetro on December 16, 2017, 09:43:37 AM
Quote from: Exodust on December 13, 2017, 10:11:40 AM
Oh yeah No More Heroes might come out in 2018. But only I care about that one.

Disgusting lies.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Corporal on December 17, 2017, 04:50:40 PM
I really wish we could get an unfiltered view of the supply situation of the switch. I mean, it's astounding that Japan still only gets roughly 200k per week. It's strange that Nintendo still can't seem to ramp up production. I mean, we know they are competing with pretty much every smartphone producer for parts, but you'd think they would have had enough foresight to plan ahead for a success scenario. They have been in this market for decades now.


I'm undecided on the next No More Heroes entry. Loved the first one despite (or maybe because of?) it being a horrible, janky, crass Frankenstein Monster, but found the second one to be outright dull since it was polished enough to lose appeal and choke on its inadequacies. Didn't even finish it.
To be quite honest, I'd probably rather have a NMH crossover. A "Gaiden" entry to e.g. Yakuza could be hilarious. But what do I know.

Random thought: ...just give me fucking a P.N.03 sequel. I have a craving for rhythm based combat and delicious gyrating hips. Errr, amazing presentation and music and Sci-Fi themes. Cough.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Beezy on December 17, 2017, 05:58:51 PM
Quote from: Corporal on December 17, 2017, 04:50:40 PM
Random thought: ...just give me fucking a P.N.03 sequel. I have a craving for rhythm based combat and delicious gyrating hips. Errr, amazing presentation and music and Sci-Fi themes. Cough.

 :mynicca
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on December 18, 2017, 02:44:03 AM
Quote from: Joe Molotov on December 12, 2017, 11:24:04 AM
Dear Nintendo, please port the rest of the good Wii U games to the Switch (TMS#FE, Captain Toad, Tropical Freeze...and okay that's pretty much it) and we can both just forget that whole thing ever happened.

Man support this 100%.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: kingv on December 18, 2017, 11:51:30 AM
Quote from: Corporal on December 17, 2017, 04:50:40 PM
I really wish we could get an unfiltered view of the supply situation of the switch. I mean, it's astounding that Japan still only gets roughly 200k per week. It's strange that Nintendo still can't seem to ramp up production. I mean, we know they are competing with pretty much every smartphone producer for parts, but you'd think they would have had enough foresight to plan ahead for a success scenario. They have been in this market for decades now.


I'm undecided on the next No More Heroes entry. Loved the first one despite (or maybe because of?) it being a horrible, janky, crass Frankenstein Monster, but found the second one to be outright dull since it was polished enough to lose appeal and choke on its inadequacies. Didn't even finish it.
To be quite honest, I'd probably rather have a NMH crossover. A "Gaiden" entry to e.g. Yakuza could be hilarious. But what do I know.

Random thought: ...just give me fucking a P.N.03 sequel. I have a craving for rhythm based combat and delicious gyrating hips. Errr, amazing presentation and music and Sci-Fi themes. Cough.

Honestly, switch supply situation is much better than the Wii. That thing was hard to find for like 2 years almost.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Corporal on December 18, 2017, 12:14:07 PM
Quote from: kingv on December 18, 2017, 11:51:30 AM
Honestly, switch supply situation is much better than the Wii. That thing was hard to find for like 2 years almost.
Should that not be a cautionary tale for them and spurn them on to avoid a repeat of such a situation?
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: kingv on December 18, 2017, 03:52:15 PM
I just think it’s the way of Nintendo. They have always been conservatively run.

Theoretically we can say they shouldn’t make the same mistake twice, but otoh my guess is that being extremely conservative with supply chain and financial risks is probably a reason why Wii U didn’t completely tank the company.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Corporal on December 20, 2017, 03:26:07 AM
It's precisely because Nintendo is so conservative that I'd expect them to cover all the bases, with scaling options both upwards and downwards in their supplier contracts. It's only prudent to keep your ass covered for all possible outcomes. Oh well. Some things we will never know with certainty. Maybe some investor Q&A or end of fiscal year disclosures will allow us to dig into this a bit more. Eventually, I mean.

...

So, we got a sneak peak at the upcoming week 50 numbers in Japan.
Switch almost at 3 million (230k sales) and MariO selling 110k copies (a substantial increase wk/wk, now over 1 Million total, plus digital).

200-odd k sales once again. Will they empty their storage for the last big week, and if so, how much will that amount to? The suspense.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Raist on December 20, 2017, 01:45:37 PM
I need to know. Why do you always type "MariO" not "Mario".
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Positive Touch on December 20, 2017, 04:06:28 PM
mario Odyssey
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: team filler on December 20, 2017, 04:23:34 PM
MariOdd
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Joe Molotov on December 20, 2017, 08:17:50 PM
MariOOOOOOOOO
               /
(http://i.imgur.com/XODA2mj.jpg)
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Corporal on December 21, 2017, 10:00:26 AM
Let's be honest, odyssey is one of those odd words. When typing it in I always have a split second where I'm unsure just how many d's and s's there are in Oddysey. Hence, MariO.

Less work, no Fight Club porn-frame-insert moments or 'nam flashbacks during entry, and most people will quickly recognise what game I'm referencing, because what else could it possibly mean. Plus, I'm saving like several button presses. And bandwidth. And thus energy. I'm doing this for the environment, really. :smug

Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Corporal on December 23, 2017, 03:43:48 AM
Neverrrrrr. Y'all just trying to hammer in the nail that sticks out. I'm a special snowflake, dammit, the status quo is just trying to suppress my uniqueness. Down with the establishment.

Mods halp, I'm being repressed.


....So, how about them Japan numbers, huh. PS4 is probably going to be down YOY at the end of the calendar year, which obviously spells doom for the entire company. Sony should obviously just stick to selling insurance. The market has spoken.
Tongue in cheek fanboying aside, I'm (very) mildly shocked that the exclusive MonHan Bundle and MHW demo/beta thing didn't do more to the numbers. MS on either of its platforms is nonexistent in Japan, so I'd have thought that the positive word of mouth and surely substantial PR expenditure from Capcom would have pushed PS4 sales upwards a bit more. Oh well.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: HardcoreRetro on December 23, 2017, 07:37:04 AM
Quote from: Corporal on December 17, 2017, 04:50:40 PM
I'm undecided on the next No More Heroes entry. Loved the first one despite (or maybe because of?) it being a horrible, janky, crass Frankenstein Monster, but found the second one to be outright dull since it was polished enough to lose appeal and choke on its inadequacies. Didn't even finish it.
To be quite honest, I'd probably rather have a NMH crossover. A "Gaiden" entry to e.g. Yakuza could be hilarious. But what do I know.

The second game wasn't directed by Suda51. Suda doesn't actually like the second game much either.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Rahxephon91 on January 04, 2018, 02:24:18 AM
I also have a similar opinion about NMH2. I really didn't care for it. The polish and "Travis is so cool" story did nothing for me.

And honestly I did'nt like the retro job mini games.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: archie4208 on January 04, 2018, 08:14:51 AM
https://twitter.com/NintendoAmerica/status/948901835284283393
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Tasty on January 04, 2018, 10:04:26 AM
:miyamoto
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Great Rumbler on January 04, 2018, 11:38:59 AM
Quote from: https://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20180104005222/en/
In the U.S., more than 60 percent of Nintendo Switch owners have Super Mario Odyssey, and over 55 percent own The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild. Not only are these games system-sellers, but they’re also two of the highest-rated games in history. Nintendo Switch owners also possess the fun, competitive games Mario Kart 8 Deluxe and Splatoon 2 at rates of more than 50 percent and 20 percent, respectively.

They're saying that the Switch has sold at least 4.8 million in the US, so with those attach rates we're looking at Mario at 2.88 million, Zelda at 2.64, Mario Kart at 2.4 million, and Splatoon 2 at 0.96 million just in the US.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Purple Filth on January 04, 2018, 02:41:10 PM
Quote from: Great Rumbler on January 04, 2018, 11:38:59 AM
Quote from: https://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20180104005222/en/
In the U.S., more than 60 percent of Nintendo Switch owners have Super Mario Odyssey, and over 55 percent own The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild. Not only are these games system-sellers, but they’re also two of the highest-rated games in history. Nintendo Switch owners also possess the fun, competitive games Mario Kart 8 Deluxe and Splatoon 2 at rates of more than 50 percent and 20 percent, respectively.

They're saying that the Switch has sold at least 4.8 million in the US, so with those attach rates we're looking at Mario at 2.88 million, Zelda at 2.64, Mario Kart at 2.4 million, and Splatoon 2 at 0.96 million just in the US.

Mario and Zelda are the 2 games i bought for my recently acquired Switch so i'm adding to those stats  :lol

Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on January 04, 2018, 07:03:31 PM
Just remember though, single player games are dead
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: team filler on January 04, 2018, 07:31:32 PM
 :rejoice
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Corporal on January 04, 2018, 10:54:30 PM
Despite my being a Ninthing and by now already owning a switch, I was deeply concerned initially that a 300+USD tablet with middle of the road stats would crater so hard it would send Nintendo into a tailspin. I'm glad my lack of faith was unfounded.
Then again, I also thought PSP and 3DS would sell like shit (and that the panicked 3DS price drop would never work), so maybe I should just stay out of the prediction league as far as handhelds are concerned.

Now, let's see how the software side develops. I mean, I'm fine with just Nintendo, Indies and a bunch of tentpole releases, but more is always better. Wii gave me a whole boatload of low polish and/or low budget games that I enjoyed far more than I had any right to. So, bring back Boom Blox. MySims. And the My Life As A _____ franchise.

TLDR: :smug & :aah
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: kingv on January 04, 2018, 11:05:20 PM
The blank is for cuckold, I think, right?
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on January 05, 2018, 02:52:27 AM
How soon till Switch overtakes Xbox? I can see 2019.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Great Rumbler on January 05, 2018, 03:09:54 PM
I don't think there are any solid, recent numbers for the Xbox One, but it's probably around 25 million. Unless the Xbox One X really takes off long-term or the Switch completely craters, I could see the Switch hitting 30 million sometime next year [if not sooner].
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Trent Dole on January 05, 2018, 03:49:10 PM
This thing outselling the Wii in the same time frame domestically is fucking insane. :doge
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Great Rumbler on January 05, 2018, 03:57:57 PM
Wii shipments were selling out basically as soon as they entered the store for almost a year after the console launched, so it definitely sold well below it's potential. The Switch supply has been fairly sparse, but I've seen it around in stores, so it's probably sold about as well during it's first year as it could.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Tasty on January 05, 2018, 05:02:49 PM
"Nintendo deliberately understocks their systems in order to create artificial scarcity."

::)
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Himu on January 05, 2018, 05:05:56 PM
Someone find me the post where Lager bet me Switch would not reach 40m units.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: kingv on January 05, 2018, 07:20:59 PM
Quote from: Trent Dole on January 05, 2018, 03:49:10 PM
This thing outselling the Wii in the same time frame domestically is fucking insane. :doge

I’m guessing this probably means that the switch outsold the PS4 in December.

I agree it’s nuts because Wii was a juggernaut, and that was partially because it was cheaper. Switch is actually more expensive than PS4 and Xbox one, and it’s still going wild.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: thisismyusername on January 05, 2018, 10:56:53 PM
Quote from: kingv on January 05, 2018, 07:20:59 PM
Quote from: Trent Dole on January 05, 2018, 03:49:10 PM
This thing outselling the Wii in the same time frame domestically is fucking insane. :doge

I’m guessing this probably means that the switch outsold the PS4 in December.

I agree it’s nuts because Wii was a juggernaut, and that was partially because it was cheaper. Switch is actually more expensive than PS4 and Xbox one, and it’s still going wild.

Portable console gaming is what is selling it for most folks, I'd assume. The fact that it actually has gotten third parties (like Rocket League getting a port) helps it as well.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: CrazyDiamond on January 06, 2018, 10:12:41 AM
Well let's just hope they keep at it. Both the Wii and the Wii U were launched with big promises of 3rd party support. Wii U got a couple ports of old games at the first year and then nothing

But then again if the Switch manages to retain at least part of the 3DS market it will keep doing good, and it has almost no competition on that front
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: thisismyusername on January 06, 2018, 06:48:29 PM
Exactly. That's why I haven't bought one yet (plus the online fee that's coming :doge ): Third parties talked a big talk every Nintendo "cycle"/console and then dropped off the face of the earth post-year-1.

The announced ports of stuff like Doom seems to mean the attach rate for these titles must be profitable for them(?) to announce further ports.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on January 06, 2018, 09:42:39 PM
The Switch has had the strongest first year software lineup I've seen on a Nintendo console or handheld.  However they blew their wad pretty early with a Mario Kart, Mario, Zelda, Splatoon, and Xenoblade all within the first year.  That's going to be tough to follow up for this year or future years since it's unreasonable to expect games of those caliber and scale every year moving forward.  As long as they don't put all their eggs into Wii Fit 3 or some shit for the next holiday season, I'm sure they will be fine.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: CrazyDiamond on January 06, 2018, 10:06:49 PM
This will be a lot easier to keep up now that they can focus on one console alone

They already got Kirby and Yoshi coming soon, Pokemon Switch probably later this year as usual and maybe Metroid if we get lucky. They always have a new Fire Emblem in the works, Smash 4 port might be coming and we haven't even seen the january Direct yet so they can probably hold it for at least this year

There's also the hope that one day we'll see whatever it is that Sakurai and Retro are working on
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Tasty on January 06, 2018, 10:21:31 PM
What Diamond said. They have Mario and Zelda but that still leaves quite a few big guns (speaking both commercially and critically here.)

The Switch will get two generations of Pokemon (plus a bunch of spinoffs), a (unified) Smash, a new Metroid Prime, Bayo 3, Animal Crossing, Kirby, Yoshi, and honestly, probably another Mario and Zelda. The last Nintendo console success, the Wii, got two mainline games for each. There will be multiple Fire Emblem games, which is now popular in the west post-Awakening. Another New Super Mario Bros., despite the series rocky quality, would sell gangbusters.

And if they wanted, they could dredge up any of the following to pad things out: Sin & Punishment, Luigi's Mansion, Kid Icarus, Donkey Kong Country, F-Zero, Wario Land/Ware, Fatal Frame, Star Fox, Excite Bike/Truck, Custom Robo, Pikmin, Mario Party, etc. Let's also not forget that Nintendo has launched two successful all-new IPs in the last few years: Splatoon and ARMS. So there's hope there, too.

Will the third-party ports last? Maybe, maybe not. The Wii couldn't handle PS360 games to the point where it was more economical to make completely new games (Umbrella Chronicles, Dead Rising, TatsuCap, etc.) The fact that the Switch is getting Doom, etc. at all is cause for optimism. Not to mention the SMT5 exclusive lockdown.

I've always maintained that the success of the Switch could be foreseen by combining the 3DS and Wii U libraries and asking prospective console buyers if that would be good enough to buy a single system for.

Will the Switch's second year (and after) suck? Maybe. Based on history, I'd probably bet no, though. When a Nintendo system flops, it kinda flops out of the gate, and vice-versa for their successful ones. The only outlier is the 3DS, but the measures to turn around that sinking ship were unusually drastic (and not applicable to the Switch's situation, since, y'know, the Switch is the fastest selling console of all time in the United States.)

Yes, the Switch had a strong start, but that doesn't mean there's nowhere to go but down.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Tasty on January 06, 2018, 10:28:05 PM
Actually, it just occurred to me that MS and Sony "soft-splintering" their current-gen console bases with the One X and PS4 Pro could actually help the Switch, since it thrusts the concept of spec scaling onto traditionally console-only (or mainly-console) developers. In previous gens there was only one set of specs to work with per console, but not anymore.

Of course, it's easier to start with a base game and spec it up than it is to do the opposite, but who's to say the Switch won't become the "base" version with the PS4/XO a spec target above that, and the Pro/One X another notch above that?

Food for thought.

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I mean Nintendo actually practiced this the earliest of the three with the GameBoy Color upgrade, continued to the DSi and "New Nintendo 3DS" line.
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Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Tasty on January 06, 2018, 10:33:11 PM
One last post, but I have to comment that we're in the current "Nintendo news lull" and during this time I always see posts like "OK, well, what do they even have after 6+ months from now?"

And then there's a Nintendo Direct or E3 or some shit and Nintendo announces crazy things like Metroid Prime 4, Bayo 3, SMT5, #FE, Return of Samus, MH3U and 4 (at the same event!) etc. Stuff no one could have even imagined was in development (or exclusive to them) at all. I'd expect more stuff like that soon.

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Apologies, this is like a year of bottled-up Switch-induced Ninthingery pouring out, since until now I've been focused on the games and not the sales. But fastest-selling in the US after 10 months is a massive milestone.
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Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Himu on January 06, 2018, 11:28:09 PM
Nintendo probably already had Animal Crossing in the oven and that will release in 2019. Not sure what's coming out for 2018 but I have faith in Nintendo.

Why do I like Nintendo more the older I get?
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: thisismyusername on January 07, 2018, 12:48:15 AM
Quote from: Tasty Meat on January 06, 2018, 10:21:31 PM
Will the third-party ports last? Maybe, maybe not. The Wii couldn't handle PS360 games to the point where it was more economical to make completely new games (Umbrella Chronicles, Dead Rising, TatsuCap, etc.)

This is the major one for me (and the problem with Nintendo in general): If they don't have the multi-plats, there is no reason for me to buy their console.

Outside of 2-3 IP's they own (and this applies to MS and Sony on their consoles as well) I could not give a shit about exclusives/first-party. And this is something that eludes a lot of Nintards. "How can you hate Mario!?" I don't hate Mario, I just don't give a shit. Third party titles appeal to me.

Having Rocket League on the system is all well and good (but the performance seems lacking compared to the PC version apparently), but having paid-for online ($20 for sub-par to X-box Live and PSN) is what kills the value for me. I'm sure if you're into single-player stuff--which I am--the system will be fine with the portable/console hybrid focus. BUT there is a lot of Madden/et. al. folks that Nintendo would be missing if they don't get EA and ... well, it's just EA at this point besides Sony with Baseball on-board.

Basically, what I'm saying is: Show me the money third parties. If they don't flop this year with non-Beth/Atlus stuff, and continue to pump out titles, I may eventually get a Nintendo console, and I haven't had one (outside of the handhelds) since the Gamecube.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Tasty on January 07, 2018, 01:00:22 AM
For the most part, the PC and systems by Microsoft and Sony more or less have equivalent libraries (with gaps for exclusives, of course.) Nintendo systems on the other hand are mostly exclusive by nature of strong first-party software.

Simplified, of the four current-gen options, there's a strong chance that the system you own shares the majority of its library with two out of the three other platforms. In that scenario, why wouldn't you get the system with more exclusives (assuming they're exclusives you'd want?)

The message from the Wii through to the Switch is that Nintendo does not intend their systems to be the primary platform for core gamers. And honestly everyone seems fine with that. It's only really a problem if you're dead-set on only own one current-gen system. And of the people on this forum, how many of those are there? Even I'm getting a PS4 soon.

As someone who is traditionally a Nintendo system owner first, I'm the target demo most excited by strong third party support. But if you're not a Ninthing and already have a PS4, is there a point to the Switch having third-party parity with it? It'd run games you could get on your PS4 worse.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: benjipwns on January 07, 2018, 02:19:44 AM
Quote from: Tasty Meat on January 07, 2018, 01:00:22 AM
For the most part, the PC and systems by Microsoft and Sony more or less have equivalent libraries
:stop
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Tasty on January 07, 2018, 02:28:16 AM
:umad

Bring me a list of all third-party AAA games since 2013 and which platforms they're available for and prove me wrong.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: benjipwns on January 07, 2018, 03:02:25 AM
FACT CHECK

the game i'm playing right now and when i made that post isn't on any console, nor will its expansion RISE AND FALL on a console

then there's something that does get ported like adventure capitalist that they stopped updating on PS4 within two months because the console gamer mind can't handle it

puny consoles and their faux gaming libraries smashed by reality :rejoice

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Tim wouldn't waste his time with a console and you know it  :snob
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Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Tasty on January 07, 2018, 03:07:29 AM
No Verrit code? Sorry, but I cannot verify the veracity of the source of your post. Please fix.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Tasty on January 07, 2018, 03:09:24 AM
Quote from: benjipwns on January 07, 2018, 03:02:25 AM
Tim wouldn't waste his time with a console and you know it  :snob

You mean Drake? For sure he'd have some uber mega Batcomputer to play Crysis 8 on or whatever, but he's also a sucker for the classics.

(https://i.imgur.com/7cQAekx.jpg)

Dude probably got eight SNES Classics on release day in person.

"Master Timothy, I'm not sure if this is the best use of your funds- :larry"

"Alfred, I just got a text! The GameStop on Loeb Ave has at least 30 in stock right now! We can make it! :gladbron"

"Whatever you say, Master Tim. ::)"
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Raist on January 07, 2018, 06:51:27 AM
Quote from: Tasty Meat on January 06, 2018, 10:28:05 PM
Of course, it's easier to start with a base game and spec it up than it is to do the opposite, but who's to say the Switch won't become the "base" version with the PS4/XO a spec target above that, and the Pro/One X another notch above that?

Food for thought.

The PS4/XB1 and their respective upgrades all have extremely similar hardware though. The Switch is completely different. And the PS4/XB1 <> PS4P/XB1X gap is absolutely nothing compared to what it is with the Switch. I mean, just look at Doom.

The 3rd party ship sailed a long, long time ago dude. Let it go~
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Tasty on January 07, 2018, 07:37:00 AM
"Letting it go" was sort of the entire point of that post, dude. :P
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: benjipwns on January 07, 2018, 11:30:47 AM
like how old is Alfred supposed to be in that? :lol

the clash broke up like 35 years ago

a lot of people point to Bruce, especially due to the Robin's, as the goofy sliding time scale aspect of DC, but really it's gotta be Alfred since he had to be old enough to take care of Bruce after his parents were killed as a kid...and then there's the times they have Alfred as a loyal butler to the Wayne's for years prior...and on the other end of the spectrum you have the version where Alfred is some kind of UK fuckup (or on the run from MI6) of some sort who thanks to his family connections got the Wayne job as a last chance right before they were killed and he takes on Bruce out of also being lost

and then there's Gotham's version where by the time Bruce is old enough to be Batman instead of The Shadow as a kid, Alfred's gonna be like 85 and Gordon's going to be in his 70s probably, Penguin not far behind...though it does better when it's just set in a version of Gotham City and the Batman world, especially with the totally fucked up life for Gordon and the show's pretty great casting and hammy acting, versus trying to actually be a Batman prequel...i might even prefer it at this point to the idea that became Smallville (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bruce_Wayne_(TV_series)) because of how stupid nonsense it is, and actually kinda regret that it tried to be a prequel for that first season and setup characters like Renee and Crispus and Harvey Dent and so on, though they totally don't care about it at this point since they have done things like age Poison Ivy 15+ years between seasons

also i love that someone finally cast Julian Bashir as Ra's

plus since i have been intermittently catching up on it quite a bit behind what's airing, i get to pretend that BD Wong's Hugo Strange is just another of Whiterose's plans

wait, what is this thread supposed to be about again?

someone should make a batman video game, bet it would sell a lot, free tip to Warner Bros. from me
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: benjipwns on January 07, 2018, 12:12:47 PM
well i can certainly tell this isn't a safe space
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Raist on January 08, 2018, 08:00:07 PM
They sold 20M in 2017. I seriously doubt they can crack 100M by the end of this year. Unless they slash the price to sub-200 permanently, and even then it'd be a stretch.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Raist on January 08, 2018, 09:50:25 PM
Oh GameSpot :lol

Needs moar giant red arrows on the pic tho.


https://twitter.com/gamespot/status/950525133042716672
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Tasty on January 08, 2018, 09:59:38 PM
Quote from: Raist on January 08, 2018, 09:50:25 PM
Oh GameSpot :lol

Needs moar giant red arrows on the pic tho.


https://twitter.com/gamespot/status/950525133042716672

I got you fam

(https://i.imgur.com/rXNq1h6.jpg)
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Joe Molotov on January 08, 2018, 11:59:42 PM
Quote from: Exodust on January 08, 2018, 07:54:21 PM
https://twitter.com/Wario64/status/950520728931123200

https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/playstation-4-sells-59-million-units-worldwide-during-the-2017-holiday-season-300579105.html

PS4 could reach 100 million by the end of the year. Beating the PS3 and reaching Wii sales.

#ButConsolesAreSupposedToBeDead

Let Oscar rest in peace, you savages. 😩
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Tasty on January 09, 2018, 12:08:44 AM
The iPhone was supposed to kill handhelds too.

#OscarWasWrong
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on January 09, 2018, 01:35:36 AM
Hope Oscar comes back to eat crow

BTW all yall were sucking his d all the time over this so don't act like you called it.

Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on January 09, 2018, 01:49:04 AM
Quote from: Premium Lager on February 15, 2013, 09:30:24 AM
Vita is not PS4.

The market the Vita targets has tablets smartphones now.  The market the PS4 will target is still there.

:bow Vision :bow2

Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on March 12, 2013, 08:32:54 PM
Consumers do want video games.  Luckily, video games are provided on their browsers, phones, and tablets at a fraction of the cost of console games.

false prophet
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Himu on January 09, 2018, 01:55:08 AM
Find that bet we made.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on January 09, 2018, 02:00:33 AM
(https://media.tenor.com/images/b1ddbe42edc3c295344422f8a0246a48/tenor.gif)
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Himu on January 09, 2018, 02:06:50 AM
:rofl
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on January 09, 2018, 02:07:23 AM
I looked in this thread but can't find it. Sorry bebe.

I actually unhooked my PS4 from my telly so I can hook up my Switch  :-[
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Tasty on January 09, 2018, 02:08:03 AM
Quote from: Premium Lager on January 09, 2018, 01:35:36 AM
Hope Oscar comes back to eat crow

BTW all yall were sucking his d all the time over this so don't act like you called it.



I'm still sucking his D, fuck off.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on January 09, 2018, 02:19:03 AM
More lipservice from the Bore
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Himu on January 09, 2018, 02:30:10 AM
FIND THE BET SOMEONE.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Himu on January 09, 2018, 02:40:32 AM
Found it.

Quote from: Cindi Mayweather on January 13, 2017, 02:41:10 AM
Quote from: Premium Lager on January 13, 2017, 02:37:34 AM
So are we on for an avatar bet? Yours can be "Kosma was right, PS4 and vag all night!"

50 million, thats only half/third of what any playstation has done. Should be doable if it has mainstream appeal right?


40 million.



Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on January 09, 2018, 04:15:43 AM
Well well well
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Raist on January 09, 2018, 07:03:42 AM
https://www.resetera.com/posts/3010612/

Not sure what's funnier. The whole "YAAAAS SWIIIITCH SLAAAAY" Nintard shtick or the fact that he got banned for it :lol
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: tiesto on January 09, 2018, 09:45:17 AM
2014 was a good year for WiiU owners. I don't get the hate for that year. Also a great year for dance music.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: kingv on January 09, 2018, 10:44:10 AM
That’s like five more great games than released on PS4 and Xbox one combined that year.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Tasty on January 09, 2018, 12:36:55 PM
Smash :rejoice

No Smash Switch :goty2
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on January 09, 2018, 03:10:44 PM
I really dont like Smash
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Tasty on January 09, 2018, 03:32:33 PM
Quote from: Premium Lager on January 09, 2018, 03:10:44 PM
I really dont like Smash

Too bad. :miyamoto
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Raist on January 09, 2018, 07:01:22 PM
Partake in list wars from 4 years ago brehs.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: kingv on January 09, 2018, 11:58:34 PM
Quote from: Premium Lager on January 09, 2018, 03:10:44 PM
I really dont like Smash

Agreed. I get why people like it... but personally think it sucks.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: kingv on January 10, 2018, 12:38:46 AM
Quote from: Exodust on January 09, 2018, 11:14:16 AM
I just said that.

It's not a long post, you can read it if you want to reply instead of frothing at the mouth to reply right away.

I still disagree it wasn’t exciting. Mario kart 8, tropical freeze, Bayo 2 are all pretty amazing, and many likemthe bring trash that is Smash bros.

Maybe you mean it’s not exciting in that it’s exactly the type of games you expect Nintendo to release. Which i guess is true, but those were also the type of games people bought the Wii U for (personally I only bought it for Bayo 2).
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Trent Dole on January 10, 2018, 01:18:47 AM
Quote from: Tasty Meat on January 09, 2018, 12:36:55 PM
Smash :rejoice

No Smash Switch :goty2
There'll at least be an announcement of some kind this year, they may even dump over the wiiu/3ds one combining all the exclusive stages as some sort of complete/deluxe version too.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Tasty on January 12, 2018, 03:28:33 PM
https://twitter.com/aarongreenberg/status/951634151790096384

:playa
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: kingv on January 12, 2018, 04:40:23 PM
Goddamn, read the replies on that and you’ll be yearning to read 100 pages of Nintendo fanboys on resetera talking about the direct. That trash is 1995 IGN level.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Joe Molotov on January 12, 2018, 06:48:42 PM
Quote from: kingv on January 12, 2018, 04:40:23 PM
Goddamn, read the replies on that and you’ll be yearning to read 100 pages of Nintendo fanboys on resetera talking about the direct. That trash is 1995 IGN level.

War. War never changes.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: team filler on January 12, 2018, 07:30:45 PM
where are the sales numbers?



nintendo rules!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on January 13, 2018, 04:39:34 PM
i think its clear in units it was switch> ps4 > xbox

xbox besting ps4 on revenue prob

anyway xbox is dead
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Tasty on January 13, 2018, 06:07:29 PM
https://twitter.com/SuperMeatBoy/status/951943736467976192
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: archie4208 on January 13, 2018, 07:34:09 PM
I'd buy SMB on Switch if it had the DannyB soundtrack.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Kf7ycHajX4 :lawd

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sa6aBOch16M  :snoop
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Beezy on January 13, 2018, 08:54:39 PM
They changed the soundtrack for Super Meat Boy? Why?
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Positive Touch on January 13, 2018, 09:03:46 PM
https://www.destructoid.com/super-meat-boy-composer-refuses-to-license-the-original-soundtrack-for-ps4-vita-release-313693.phtml
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: kingv on January 13, 2018, 09:46:42 PM
I’m just going to assume that DannyB is Danny Brown.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Tasty on January 14, 2018, 08:28:34 PM
Wrong thread!
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Tasty on January 15, 2018, 09:52:27 PM
https://kotaku.com/the-nintendo-switch-had-an-incredible-year-in-japan-1822084194

Quote
In Japan, Nintendo sold 3.4 million Switch consoles in 2017. Website Nintendo Soup notes that during the PS4's first year, Sony sold 920,000 consoles. Meaning? It looks like the Switch ended up outselling the PS4 three to one.

:o

(https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--mSosKIFi--/c_scale,fl_progressive,q_80,w_800/vknk5urdaqfegqkkpazd.jpg)

:rejoice

:miyamoto
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: kingv on January 15, 2018, 10:12:10 PM
I was just wondering how that was looking. That 3.4 million is a damn impressive number, meaning it probably sold about as much in Japan as the US.

I wonder when/if we start to see the switch as a target platform for Japanese software. For some of the Niche games, switch would seem to be a better platform than the PS4, in that a company could more easily make 360-level assets to work on the switch and not have their game look like Trash compared to AAA.

... I’d love switch Yakuza (though Yakuza 0 is a damn good-looking game, even if it has roots in PS3).
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Tasty on January 15, 2018, 11:51:42 PM
It'll get 3DS and Vita devs, Nintendo-adjacent devs, and indies, plus a lot of current-gen ports (far more than the Wii U did, since it was only geting PS360 ports for about a year before pubs abandoned it.)
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: kingv on January 16, 2018, 12:08:54 AM
Quote from: Exodust on January 15, 2018, 11:42:15 PM
Well Yakuza 1 and 2 got ported to the Wii U in japan, so you never know.

Huh, I didn’t know that.

Would be a fun game on a portable. Yakuza 0 is a far better game than I expected.
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Post by: Tasty on January 18, 2018, 12:26:20 PM
Quote
REDMOND, Wash.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Nintendo Switch sold more units in December than any other video game system, according to the NPD Group, which tracks video game sales in the United States. Holiday shoppers purchased 1.5 million Nintendo Switch systems during the five-week reporting period of December, which is a critical month for the video game industry. Since its launch 10 months ago, Nintendo Switch has sold more than 4.8 million units, making it the fastest-selling home console in U.S. history.

The Nintendo 3DS family of systems also demonstrated continued strength, posting its best sales month since December 2014. Collectively, the different versions of Nintendo 3DS hardware sold more than 750,000 units in the U.S. in December, a 27 percent increase over the same period a year ago. The sales also pushed the Nintendo 3DS family of systems to a new milestone of more than 21 million sold in the U.S.

Combined hardware sales of Nintendo Switch, Nintendo 3DS and the Super Nintendo Entertainment System: Super NES Classic Edition system topped 2.6 million units, which accounted for more than half of all hardware sold during the month.

Four Nintendo Switch games finished high on the December sales charts for individual titles: Super Mario Odyssey at No. 3, Mario Kart 8 Deluxe at No. 4, The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild at No. 9 and Splatoon 2 at No. 16. Additionally, Pokémon Ultra Sun and Pokémon Ultra Moon for Nintendo 3DS finished No. 13 and No. 14, respectively.

(https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--Ux3vT0BS--/c_scale,f_auto,fl_progressive,q_80,w_800/1301254001525534565.gif)
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Tasty on January 18, 2018, 12:30:07 PM
SNES Classic sold (*does the math*) 1.85 million 350,000 in December. :o
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Tasty on January 18, 2018, 12:31:27 PM
It's so fucking wild that the GOTY edition of a Mario Kart game from nearly four years ago is the fourth-best-selling game in December.

It really is that good though. :lawd
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Raist on January 18, 2018, 12:34:10 PM
Quote from: Tasty Meat on January 18, 2018, 12:30:07 PM
SNES Classic sold (*does the math*) 1.85 million in December. :o


2.6 - 1.5 - 0.75 = 1.85 brehs.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Tasty on January 18, 2018, 12:36:42 PM
Lol whatever. Nintendo. :rejoice
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: kingv on January 18, 2018, 01:49:54 PM
I’m not too surprised at the 3DS numbers. I grabbed a 2DS with Mario Kart 7 preinstalled for like $80. And all of the selects were only $20 for the entire holiday season. You could give a kid in the right age range a pretty fucking stellar Christmas for $120 or so.

I’m more surprised with the switch. I never saw more than 1 or 2 on the shelf anywhere after thanksgiving, I had figured that this was due to Nintendo not stocking a damn thing syndrome. Apparently they were just flying off the shelves. I probably should have realized when like three of my friends either gave them to their kids or got one for Xmas.

I wouldn’t mind if Nintendo kept pumping or 3DS software, but my wish would be that they dual release everything on Switch. I’m still playing my 3DS, especially to play mario party and New Leaf with my kid, but I struggle to get excited to play like, Metroid returns on the original 3DS, that thing is just hand torture for me.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: team filler on January 18, 2018, 06:14:18 PM
 :smug :patel :miyamoto :rejoice :success
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Corporal on January 18, 2018, 08:52:27 PM
So, even a slowpoke like me has seen the recent NPD numbers (12/2017 and all/2017).

I am pleased with Xenoblade Chronicles 2 selling well. Did OK in Japan, did OK in USA, who cares about Europe because we still bang rocks together when it comes to cross-country sales tracking. Too lazy to scrounge together data from multiple sources, besides, nobody cares anyway.


....So many "as a service" and lootbox games. We will be dragging that crap along with us for a good while, huh. It's just crazy how well CoDWW2 is doing. That's gotta be a whole shitton of lootbox money.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: team filler on January 18, 2018, 09:28:32 PM
I care goddamnit
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: kingv on January 18, 2018, 09:53:08 PM
Horizon zero dawn was a pretty damn popular exclusive game on sale for most of the year on a much larger install base and it got smoked by at least 3 Switch exclusives, physical vs physical+digital.

That’s pretty crazy when you think about it.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Rahxephon91 on January 18, 2018, 10:03:12 PM
Horizon was also better than any of those Switch exclusives so clearly quality doesn't mean anything.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Great Rumbler on January 18, 2018, 10:46:19 PM
Nah, at the very least Zelda was better than Horizon.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Rahxephon91 on January 18, 2018, 11:08:39 PM
I don't even know what the other Switch exclusives are. I just wanted to make a troll post because I don't like the Switch or Nintendo.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Great Rumbler on January 18, 2018, 11:10:15 PM
Quote from: Rahxephon91 on January 18, 2018, 11:08:39 PM
I don't even know what the other Switch exclusives are. I just wanted to make a troll post because I don't like the Switch or Nintendo.

Ok
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: team filler on January 18, 2018, 11:24:03 PM
Quote from: Rahxephon91 on January 18, 2018, 11:08:39 PM
I don't even know what the other Switch exclusives are. I just wanted to make a troll post because I don't like the Switch or Nintendo.
:sheik
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Post by: kingv on January 18, 2018, 11:24:23 PM
I have tried a few times to get into Horizon. It’s too Ubi-esque to me. Couldn’t get into it at all.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Rahxephon91 on January 18, 2018, 11:30:44 PM
I guess Horizon is Ubi-esque a bit, but not really.

It has a fully focused single player that is filled with unqiue cutscenes, missions, dungeons, whatever you name it. The single player doesn't feel copy and pasted, it feels like someone gave a damn and carefully thought it out.

It's side activities are also not awful or overwhelming in number. The dungeons are few, but all unique in whats inside them. Each one also unlocks new things you can do to the robo dinos. The Long Neck things are also few in number and also usually in unique areas. It also doesn't feel pointless to do them.

The raider camp things are the most Ubisoftish, but they are at least tied to a side quest with it's own story.

If anythng it felt like someone made a Ubisoft game except actually good and not with a bunch of garbage content and fat that just crowds out the map.

I don't know when I think of open world Ubisoft game I think of a map with a millions of shit on it, a boring copy and paste mission design, and pretty much nothing but repeated thoughtless content. Which is not Horizon at all.

Also the game understands pacing, unlike most open world games where it's here is the open world whatever.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Tasty on January 19, 2018, 12:02:11 AM
Starting to think Nintendo's success isn't due to the Switch or shit. It's literally cause Zelda and Mario are rad as fuck. If Zelda was exclusive to Wii U and they did a Wii U revision (possibly substituting a cooler name) at the same time, the Wii U would have sold as much this year as the Switch.

Always knew games are just what mattered. In consumers' eyes, the Wii U had the lamest generation of Nintendo home console software ever. Switch is a 180 in that sense.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Rufus on January 19, 2018, 05:23:40 AM
Eh. It's a Nintendo tablet. Name recognition and guaranteed software support. Also great for people who want to replace their DS and for parents to give to children who've been pacified by iPads as toddlers. It's what the Wii U should have been in the first place, but maybe the tech wasn't there (or cheap enough).
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Great Rumbler on January 19, 2018, 01:38:20 PM
If the Wii U had launched with those games, things might have been different. But it was too far gone by 2017 [or, really, 2015] for a couple of really great games to save it. The Switch shed off the baggage and started fresh with a killer first-year lineup, along with it being much more portable and versatile than the Wii U.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Rufus on January 19, 2018, 01:54:08 PM
Retroactively makes the Wii U even worse, like the prototype that should never have gotten out.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: kingv on January 19, 2018, 02:24:55 PM
i Definitely think, for Nintendo especially, you gotta have that “must play” game to get people in the door for year 1 and catch some momentum.

Honestly, Wii U’s first year is mostly notable for how most of the Nintendo Published games were B and C tier franchises.

Wii Party U or Wii Fit U would not have seemed so bad had it been bookended by a new 3D Zelda and Kart or smash or 3D Mario.

It just seems terrible because those were basically the high points of year 1.

Also, the 2 screen gimmick was just not as good as expected. Not many games did I give a shit about the tablet. Mostly, I played everything on a pro controller, and the games that required 2 screens really made it too confusing. On a DS you can see both screens at the same time, but when I have one in my lap and one on my tv, it’s very difficult to keep track of both.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Nintex on January 19, 2018, 07:26:52 PM
Quote from: Rufus on January 19, 2018, 01:54:08 PM
Retroactively makes the Wii U even worse, like the prototype that should never have gotten out.
Iwata had the right idea when he wanted to drop the GamePad.

Wii U really was the beta test for the Switch.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Assimilate on January 23, 2018, 04:48:31 PM
Quote from: Exodust on January 19, 2018, 08:03:03 PM


With the Switch you had hardware with an understandable appeal and clear message with what looked like Nintendo's most ambitious games in almost a decade. Switch is Nintendo understanding the market, the Wii U is them hoping the branding is enough.

And then you'll have them sitting on shelves collecting dust just like Wii's did.

I'll never understand Nintendo fans.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: agrajag on January 28, 2018, 10:58:24 PM
Yeah, and the Wii sold because of Twilight Princess. Sure, Jan.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Raist on January 31, 2018, 02:13:55 AM
Here, some numbers

Nintendo LTD

NSW 14.8M
SMO 9M
MK8D 7.3M
BOTW 6.7M
SPL2 4.9M


MHW (First week, Japan, PS4 only) 1.35M
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: team filler on January 31, 2018, 02:19:29 AM
 :pitbull
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Fifstar on January 31, 2018, 04:38:01 AM
 :aah
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: archie4208 on January 31, 2018, 05:12:07 AM
:bow Monster Hunter :bow2
:bow Nintendo :bow2
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: team filler on January 31, 2018, 05:55:02 AM
I rank Odyssey below sunshine, 64 and galaxy
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Clockwork5 on January 31, 2018, 02:12:03 PM
I miss the cat suit from 3DW. I hope they make another one of those. I guess a port would be alright but I played the shit out of that game and crave some new blood.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Great Rumbler on January 31, 2018, 05:06:46 PM
Odyssey notching a 60% attach rate is pretty insane.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Rahxephon91 on January 31, 2018, 05:36:04 PM
I'm happily part of that 40%.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Great Rumbler on January 31, 2018, 05:38:27 PM
Okay.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Purple Filth on January 31, 2018, 07:25:33 PM
Quote from: Great Rumbler on January 31, 2018, 05:06:46 PM
Odyssey notching a 60% attach rate is pretty insane.

Indeed.

And i still haven't played my copy yet  :lol :lol :lol :lol

:snoop
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Great Rumbler on January 31, 2018, 07:35:33 PM
Also, it wasn't mentioned in the previous post with the Switch sales numbers, but Xenoblade is just over 1 million worldwide. Numbers for the other two Xenoblades aren't readily available, but I did some rough math/estimations and came away with maybe 500k for each, so this would be really good news for the series.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on February 01, 2018, 01:43:40 AM
I think its really bad news if the feedback they get this is the art style people like  :-\
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Raist on February 01, 2018, 02:07:24 AM
Quote from: Great Rumbler on January 31, 2018, 07:35:33 PM
Also, it wasn't mentioned in the previous post with the Switch sales numbers, but Xenoblade is just over 1 million worldwide. Numbers for the other two Xenoblades aren't readily available, but I did some rough math/estimations and came away with maybe 500k for each, so this would be really good news for the series.

Yeah, didn't think people would care :yeshrug

FWIW, the next best selling title after BOTW is 1-2 Switch at 1.9M.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: bluemax on February 01, 2018, 04:19:06 AM
Quote from: Rufus on January 19, 2018, 01:54:08 PM
Retroactively makes the Wii U even worse, like the prototype that should never have gotten out.

It makes me angry because I bought so many games for the stupid Wii U, and didn't finish most of them (except Zelda) and now I wish they were on Switch but there's no fucking way I'm rebuying them.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Momo on February 01, 2018, 11:05:25 AM
'Dragon Ball FighterZ shipments and digital sales top two million ' :rejoice
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Corporal on February 01, 2018, 12:13:08 PM
Those Monster Hunter World numbers are dang nice. I still dare say it was a braindead decision to bet the farm on such a radical departure from the norm, but at least it paid off.

Also rather relieved that neither the franchise nor the company seems to have suffered much from the transition.

The amount of people finally giving the franchise a honest look just because it finally got pushed down their gullets on their shiny HD boxes is hilarious, though.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Rahxephon91 on February 01, 2018, 01:32:56 PM
I mean I don’t play handhelds and playing an action game on a handheld has never been fun. So of course I’m going to try a new Capcom game if it’s on consoles.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Rahxephon91 on February 01, 2018, 04:07:57 PM
Quote from: Premium Lager on February 01, 2018, 01:43:40 AM
I think its really bad news if the feedback they get this is the art style people like  :-\
They should just not make anymore Xenoblade games if so.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Great Rumbler on February 01, 2018, 04:53:09 PM
:trumps
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: bluemax on February 02, 2018, 01:18:59 AM
Quote from: Corporal on February 01, 2018, 12:13:08 PM
Those Monster Hunter World numbers are dang nice. I still dare say it was a braindead decision to bet the farm on such a radical departure from the norm, but at least it paid off.

Also rather relieved that neither the franchise nor the company seems to have suffered much from the transition.

The amount of people finally giving the franchise a honest look just because it finally got pushed down their gullets on their shiny HD boxes is hilarious, though.

What is so radically different about it? The beta felt like the same game it has always been just with two sticks and prettier graphics.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: archie4208 on February 02, 2018, 09:41:13 AM
Quote from: bluemax on February 02, 2018, 01:18:59 AM
Quote from: Corporal on February 01, 2018, 12:13:08 PM
Those Monster Hunter World numbers are dang nice. I still dare say it was a braindead decision to bet the farm on such a radical departure from the norm, but at least it paid off.

Also rather relieved that neither the franchise nor the company seems to have suffered much from the transition.

The amount of people finally giving the franchise a honest look just because it finally got pushed down their gullets on their shiny HD boxes is hilarious, though.

What is so radically different about it? The beta felt like the same game it has always been just with two sticks and prettier graphics.
You no longer get hand cramps when playing for more than 30 minutes.  :teehee
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Raist on February 02, 2018, 03:47:01 PM
Soony making mad bank.

Q3 gaming revenue up 16%, profit up 70%.

Kaz Hirai stepping down as CEO, replaced by Yoshida. (no, not Shu).
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Corporal on February 03, 2018, 03:16:03 AM
Quote from: bluemax on February 02, 2018, 01:18:59 AM
What is so radically different about it? The beta felt like the same game it has always been just with two sticks and prettier graphics.
Two sticks ain't new. :doge

Before this, Monster Hunter was an almost certain Handheld exclusive. Sure, they repeatedly and half-assedly tried to get back to their console roots with Tri etc, but in the end the most sales and their target demographic resided firmly in the handheld sector. Slowly declining sales, yes, but still.

Bonus: The step away from a rigidly segmented world towards a sandboxy setup leads to a radical rework of internal logic, and the accompanying tweaks are quite substantial. And yes, "HD graphics" and production values. It may still be a Monster Hunter, but this time they pretty much had to rejigger all the innards. (Please note, I'm not trying to diminish the effort that went into the handheld games, but the scope is clearly different - even on the bloated "big franchise" level.)

It was a substantial risk to go all-in like that with a mainline entry, platform and "mobility" change and simultaneous tweaks to the formula and presentation, however minor they seem. Granted: we will probably never know of their plan B and C, unless a suspiciously over-polished or obviously-held-back release on another platform shows up out of the blue later on. So who knows with how much confidence they took this leap of faith. A leap of faith it was, nonetheless. (Substitute desperation or whatever you see fit)
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: kingv on February 05, 2018, 12:32:26 AM
I wouldn’t be surprised to see Monster hunter have sort of a dual track approach, where there is one sort of switch version alongside the ps4 version.

Frankly it could probably be the same game with worse graphics.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: archie4208 on February 09, 2018, 07:31:47 AM
http://www.siliconera.com/2018/02/09/monster-hunter-world-ships-6-million-units-set-record-fastest-capcom-title-reach-6-mil/
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Tasty on February 09, 2018, 09:30:59 AM
Quote from: archie4208 on February 09, 2018, 07:31:47 AM
http://www.siliconera.com/2018/02/09/monster-hunter-world-ships-6-million-units-set-record-fastest-capcom-title-reach-6-mil/

I said goddamn. Absolutely crazy.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: team filler on February 09, 2018, 07:13:16 PM
That's a whole lot of boring
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Post by: Tasty on February 09, 2018, 08:34:02 PM
Quote from: filler on February 09, 2018, 07:13:16 PM
That's a whole lot of boring

Fuck you? :idont
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Post by: team filler on February 09, 2018, 08:39:42 PM
I'm not gonna keep pretending to like these trash games, they're not exclusive to nintendo anymore
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Post by: Tasty on February 10, 2018, 12:18:37 AM
Quote from: Exodust on February 10, 2018, 12:00:00 AM
Quote from: filler on February 09, 2018, 08:39:42 PM
I'm not gonna keep pretending to like these trash games, they're not exclusive to nintendo anymore

With this post, Tasty Meat gazes upon the abyss.

Fuck you!  :rage
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Post by: Beezy on February 10, 2018, 10:39:22 AM
No DBZ numbers yet?
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Post by: Raist on February 10, 2018, 11:31:35 AM
Quote from: Beezy on February 10, 2018, 10:39:22 AM
No DBZ numbers yet?

>2M shipped+digital
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Post by: archie4208 on February 21, 2018, 08:00:56 PM
https://venturebeat.com/2018/02/21/january-npd-2018-monster-hunter-even-slays-beasts-like-call-of-duty-and-pubg/


    Monster Hunter: World
    Dragon Ball: Fighterz
    Call of Duty: WWII
    PlayerUnknown’s Battlegrounds*
    Grand Theft Auto V
    NBA 2K18
    Super Mario Odyssey**
    The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild**
    Mario Kart 8**
    Madden NFL 18
    Star Wars: Battlefront II*
    Assassin’s Creed: Origins
    UFC 3
    Tom Clancy’s Rainbow Six: Siege
    FIFA 18*
    Dragon Ball: Xenoverse
    The Sims 4*
    Splatoon 2**
    Dissidia: Final Fantasy NT
    Need for Speed: Payback*

Monster Hunter is mainstream baby.  :lawd
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Tasty on February 21, 2018, 08:46:17 PM
Finally :rejoice
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: team filler on February 22, 2018, 01:07:09 AM
 :boring
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Raist on February 22, 2018, 03:36:27 AM
Quote
PlayStation 4, Switch and Xbox One all performed well in the month of January. The Nintendo Switch sold the most systems, but Sony’s PlayStation 4 generated the most revenue. In dollar sales, the gap between the top-selling platform and the third best-selling was only 3 percent.
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Post by: Corporal on February 22, 2018, 06:25:29 AM
January went smoothly in the US, it seems. Nice one. Something for everyone.

Not quite as excited for MonHan going mainstream since I'm more of a "I liked it before it was cool" whiner that will surely dislike where the game will go from now on with all the dirty casuals streaming in - but it's undeniably a good thing since it means the Capcom gamble paid off and the franchise has a future. I just hope my pessimistic fanboy ass will be thoroughly proven wrong in the future.

Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Raist on February 22, 2018, 07:09:43 AM
Quote from: Corporal on February 22, 2018, 06:25:29 AM
January went smoothly in the US, it seems. Nice one. Something for everyone.

Not quite as excited for MonHan going mainstream since I'm more of a "I liked it before it was cool" whiner that will surely dislike where the game will go from now on with all the dirty casuals streaming in - but it's undeniably a good thing since it means the Capcom gamble paid off and the franchise has a future. I just hope my pessimistic fanboy ass will be thoroughly proven wrong in the future.

We're talking about Capcom here. They make significant changes to their IPs once per decade. You'll be fine.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Raist on February 28, 2018, 03:55:41 PM
https://www.sie.com/en/corporate/release/2018/180228.html

Quote
Sony Interactive Entertainment (SIE) today announced global sales of Horizon Zero Dawn™ have exceeded 7.6 million copies just one year since it launched exclusively on PlayStation®4 (PS4™)*1. The exceptional year-one-sales mark Horizon Zero Dawn as the most successful new first-party franchise launch on PS4. Horizon Zero Dawn was released on February 28, 2017 to widespread critical acclaim, winning numerous industry awards. 

Well deserved.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: kingv on February 28, 2018, 06:17:03 PM
I thought zero dawn was incredibly boring.

Probably why it hasn’t sold as well as Zelda  :paul
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Post by: Great Rumbler on February 28, 2018, 06:29:51 PM
Horizon could get boring if you tried to do all the side quests and collection [like most Ubisoft-style open world games], but the main questline was good and hunting huge dino-bots was fun.
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Post by: Raist on March 01, 2018, 01:32:05 AM
It's 30% off (35% with PS+) till March 6th btw.
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Post by: Cerveza mas fina on March 01, 2018, 01:40:14 AM
Might be tempted then...

On the other hand it will be on PS plus one day.
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Post by: kingv on March 01, 2018, 09:22:58 AM
It was just one of those games that never clicked with me.

I can see hypothetically what other people saw in it, but it just never came together for me.

I think it just seemed like too much of a rehash of other games to me. It’s basically techno Tomb Raider with an uglier protagonist.
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Post by: HardcoreRetro on March 02, 2018, 01:25:11 PM
Quote from: kingv on March 01, 2018, 09:22:58 AM
I think it just seemed like too much of a rehash of other games to me. It’s basically techno Tomb Raider with an uglier protagonist.

Refined Ubisoft sandbox Tomb Raider Reboot. The rehash thing basically counts for every game though.

Getting your traps and stuff to work in synch was pretty cool to me.
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Post by: Svejk on March 02, 2018, 03:10:14 PM
Dark Souls 3 (with some strange, ninja rabbit game) is part of March 2018 Humble Bundle. 
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: HardcoreRetro on March 02, 2018, 03:17:21 PM
Quote from: Svejk on March 02, 2018, 03:10:14 PM
Dark Souls 3 (with some strange, ninja rabbit game) is part of March 2018 Humble Bundle.

The Ninja rabbit thing is from the people that made Lugaru. One of the games that was in the very first Humble Bundle.
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Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on March 02, 2018, 04:10:05 PM
Quote from: Svejk on March 02, 2018, 03:10:14 PM
Dark Souls 3 (with some strange, ninja rabbit game) is part of March 2018 Humble Bundle.

The rest of the games are:
Lost Castle
Splasher
Aviary Attorney
Last Day in June
Holy Potatoes! We're In Space?!
Drawkanoid [Humble Original, not on Steam]
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Post by: kingv on March 02, 2018, 04:59:02 PM
Welll at least we got dark souls 3.
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Post by: archie4208 on March 05, 2018, 06:03:23 AM
http://www.capcom.co.jp/ir/english/news/html/e180305.html

Making MH multiplat was Capcom's best decision in years.
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Post by: kingv on March 05, 2018, 12:57:11 PM
Tbh, monster hunter worlds sales have kind of surprised me.

It’s a good game, but it just doesn’t seem like it has mainstream appeal.... but I guess it does.
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Post by: Tasty on March 05, 2018, 03:16:17 PM
Quote from: archie4208 on March 05, 2018, 06:03:23 AM
http://www.capcom.co.jp/ir/english/news/html/e180305.html

Making MH multiplat was Capcom's best decision in years.

this + simultaneous launch

So glad MH and Pokemon have gotten with the times on that.
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Post by: Mr. Gundam on March 06, 2018, 11:50:50 AM
Quote from: kingv on March 05, 2018, 12:57:11 PM
Tbh, monster hunter worlds sales have kind of surprised me.

It’s a good game, but it just doesn’t seem like it has mainstream appeal.... but I guess it does.

It's got loot, you can play with friends online and stream your gameplay. Seems like a recipe for success.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: kingv on March 06, 2018, 02:21:57 PM
Quote from: Mr. Gundam on March 06, 2018, 11:50:50 AM
Quote from: kingv on March 05, 2018, 12:57:11 PM
Tbh, monster hunter worlds sales have kind of surprised me.

It’s a good game, but it just doesn’t seem like it has mainstream appeal.... but I guess it does.

It's got loot, you can play with friends online and stream your gameplay. Seems like a recipe for success.

It also has anthromorphic cats, and other weirdo Japanese shit.

I assumed that would scare away the Call of duty/gta crowd. Maybe PS4 has just hit critical mass where it doesn’t really matter what that crowd ignores or not anymore.
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Post by: CrazyDiamond on March 06, 2018, 02:55:31 PM
If anything the cats just drew even more people in
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Post by: Mr. Gundam on March 07, 2018, 03:41:15 PM
Doesn't Overwatch have some of that silly/weird shit in it?
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Post by: Cerveza mas fina on March 09, 2018, 08:13:28 AM
Tons of silly costumes yes
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Crash Dummy on April 02, 2018, 07:12:05 AM
bought a cheap ps4 with fifa and gran turismo sport, saw there's an easter sale on the psn. what's some good shit for someone new to this gen to pick up? i'm thinking of getting watch dogs 2 and doom
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Post by: Mr. Gundam on April 02, 2018, 01:05:04 PM
Quote from: Crash Dummy on April 02, 2018, 07:12:05 AM
bought a cheap ps4 with fifa and gran turismo sport, saw there's an easter sale on the psn. what's some good shit for someone new to this gen to pick up? i'm thinking of getting watch dogs 2 and doom

Yakuza 0
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Post by: Raist on April 02, 2018, 06:34:09 PM
Quote from: Crash Dummy on April 02, 2018, 07:12:05 AM
bought a cheap ps4 with fifa and gran turismo sport, saw there's an easter sale on the psn. what's some good shit for someone new to this gen to pick up? i'm thinking of getting watch dogs 2 and doom

You missed free Bloodborne and Ratchet by, like, 2 days.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: kingv on April 03, 2018, 08:45:39 AM
Quote from: Mr. Gundam on April 02, 2018, 01:05:04 PM
Quote from: Crash Dummy on April 02, 2018, 07:12:05 AM
bought a cheap ps4 with fifa and gran turismo sport, saw there's an easter sale on the psn. what's some good shit for someone new to this gen to pick up? i'm thinking of getting watch dogs 2 and doom

Yakuza 0

Maybe Nier Automata too. I’ve turned a few friends onto it and they all loved it. Great mind fuck story.
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Post by: Crash Dummy on April 03, 2018, 09:17:19 AM
^thanks, seems cheaper on amazon than on psn store so will order off there later this week
Quote from: Mr. Gundam on April 02, 2018, 01:05:04 PM
Yakuza 0
thanks, i just tried the demo for yakuza 6 and liked it
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Post by: kingv on April 03, 2018, 11:10:43 AM
Yakuza went from a series I only vaguely knew about to one of my favorite series all off of 0. Such a great game.
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Post by: Rahxephon91 on April 03, 2018, 11:27:34 AM
BloodBorne, Doom, Final Fantasy XV, Gravity Rush 2, Horizon Zero Dawn, Nier, Persona 5, Titanfall 2, Uncharted 4/LL, and for sure Witcher 3 are some of the things you should look into.
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Post by: Crash Dummy on April 25, 2018, 12:01:01 PM
so psn is having a sale on japanese stuff at the moment, so far have yakuza 0 and persona 5 in my basket and thinking about either nier or yakuza kiwami

e: full list here https://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/psn-discounts-25418-2930737
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Post by: Svejk on April 25, 2018, 12:19:06 PM
Got Yakuza 0 in my basket too with that Humble Bundle 50% off code...  gonna wait to pull the trigger on it, as in hopes that it may get discounted even further over the course of May.   Still playing GoW atm, and that coupon doesn't expire till June 4th too.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Great Rumbler on April 25, 2018, 04:38:59 PM
Nintendo Cardboard Box sold 120k [across the two versions] first week in Japan:

https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2018-04-25/japan-video-game-rankings-april-16-22/.130836
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: kingv on April 25, 2018, 11:50:01 PM
Damn the switch is a monster in Japan. 7 of the top 10 titles.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: team filler on April 26, 2018, 12:56:58 AM
 :D
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: archie4208 on April 26, 2018, 09:57:04 AM
https://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/en/finance/hard_soft/index.html
https://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/en/finance/software/index.html
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Post by: Great Rumbler on April 26, 2018, 01:14:29 PM
I'm really happy about Xenoblade 2 selling 1.3 million. As far as I can tell, that's quite a bit above what the previous two games sold.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Great Rumbler on April 26, 2018, 01:59:54 PM
Another interesting bit of information is that the SNES Classic has sold over 5.28 million units worldwide. I actually saw one in the wild the other day, sitting up on a high shelf behind the register at the local Gamestop.
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Post by: Corporal on April 27, 2018, 03:15:15 PM
3DS still clinging on for dear life. Not bad.

Goodbye, last genuine handheld of Nintendo (given Switch sales numbers, I doubt Nintendo will ever again go with two separate platforms). Still, kind of a shitty last hurray. DS would have been a better last guard.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Raist on April 28, 2018, 07:19:48 PM
PS4 LTD at 79M (shipped).

Sold 19M in FY17, down 1M vs. 2016. They're expecting 16M in 2018. Sony had a good run.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Great Rumbler on April 28, 2018, 07:36:52 PM
Home consoles are dead, mobile is the future ect.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: kingv on April 29, 2018, 02:19:49 AM
That actually seems weird, aren’t consoles sales usually super backloaded because of price drops?
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Post by: Trent Dole on April 29, 2018, 04:08:02 PM
PS4's been holding steady at $249 for a while now.
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Post by: Raist on April 29, 2018, 04:40:24 PM
Quote from: kingv on April 29, 2018, 02:19:49 AM
That actually seems weird, aren’t consoles sales usually super backloaded because of price drops?

Consoles always peak 3-4 years into their lifetime.

spoiler (click to show/hide)
Except the Wii fad and the Xbone flatline  :marimo
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Post by: Raist on May 03, 2018, 05:09:32 PM
https://twitter.com/PlayStation/status/992048960691933192
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Nintex on May 03, 2018, 06:35:10 PM
Quote from: Great Rumbler on April 26, 2018, 01:59:54 PM
Another interesting bit of information is that the SNES Classic has sold over 5.28 million units worldwide. I actually saw one in the wild the other day, sitting up on a high shelf behind the register at the local Gamestop.
Whatever happened to the return of the NES classic?

Hopefully the new Nintendo bass stays true to that promise.
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Post by: tiesto on May 03, 2018, 08:01:11 PM
Quote from: Nintex on May 03, 2018, 06:35:10 PM
Quote from: Great Rumbler on April 26, 2018, 01:59:54 PM
Another interesting bit of information is that the SNES Classic has sold over 5.28 million units worldwide. I actually saw one in the wild the other day, sitting up on a high shelf behind the register at the local Gamestop.
Whatever happened to the return of the NES classic?

Hopefully the new Nintendo bass stays true to that promise.

Heard some rumors it's supposed to be back this summer...
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Post by: archie4208 on May 14, 2018, 01:59:57 PM
https://twitter.com/Persona_Central/status/996079002816204800

That's a lot of waifus.
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Post by: MMaRsu on May 14, 2018, 03:17:40 PM
Deserved, what a brilliant game <3
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Post by: Great Rumbler on May 14, 2018, 04:41:12 PM
That pretty much blows the doors of any of the other Persona games, right?
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Post by: tiesto on May 15, 2018, 06:31:37 PM
Quote from: archie4208 on May 14, 2018, 01:59:57 PM
https://twitter.com/Persona_Central/status/996079002816204800

That's a lot of waifus.

Hopefully this'll mean more turn based console RPGs.
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Post by: archie4208 on May 15, 2018, 07:21:51 PM
You'll get rhythm game spinoffs and you'll like it.   :cody
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Post by: Rahxephon91 on May 15, 2018, 09:03:55 PM
Persona 5 was really good.

I am itching for another turn based jrpg though. Good thing there's Dragon Quest in September. Among 100s of other good looking games that decided to release around then.
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Post by: tiesto on May 16, 2018, 06:35:26 PM
Quote from: Rahxephon91 on May 15, 2018, 09:03:55 PM
Persona 5 was really good.

I am itching for another turn based jrpg though. Good thing there's Dragon Quest in September. Among 100s of other good looking games that decided to release around then.

Octopath, baby!
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Great Rumbler on June 06, 2018, 04:35:43 PM
Quote from: http://www.ign.com/articles/2018/06/06/nier-automata-hits-3-million-sales-worldwide
The Japanese Nier: Automata Twitter account announced that the game has hit over 3 million physical game shipments and digital copies sold worldwide.
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Post by: Tasty on June 06, 2018, 06:25:58 PM
Meanwhile, at Microsoft
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: archie4208 on June 29, 2018, 05:15:46 PM
https://nintendoeverything.com/hollow-knight-sells-over-250000-copies-on-switch-in-its-first-two-weeks/

It deserves every sale and then some.  HK is up there with Super Metroid in terms of best of their genre.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: kingv on June 29, 2018, 05:49:44 PM
That’s about 1/4 of the steam sales (according to steam spy) in a week.

That’s pretty damn good. No wonder every indie under the sun is trying to port to switch.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: team filler on June 29, 2018, 05:50:36 PM
 :D
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Tasty on June 29, 2018, 06:06:14 PM
Dat E3 Direct boost :noah
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Post by: Corporal on June 29, 2018, 06:23:22 PM
It's ridiculous that Indies are selling gangbusters while big 3rd parties are more or less fleeing in abject terror. It's nothing new, I guess.


I'm really curious about that Totally Not StarfoxTM game from Ubisoft (with Totally Not AmiibosTM). Sales comparisons between the various platforms will probably be very interesting.
Still, the waters are a bit muddled unless they come out with a Master Chief/Destiny(?) collab as well. I mean, give Ninthings Nintendo franchise tie-ins and they'll be there, day and date. Particularly since the game looked more Starfoxy than any recent Stafox game by Nintendo.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Tasty on June 29, 2018, 06:34:51 PM
>big third parties are fleeing in abject terror

> Wolfenstein II was released on Switch today
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Post by: archie4208 on June 29, 2018, 06:50:07 PM
I prefer indies on Switch as long as there's some semblance of parity with PC versions. 
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Post by: Tasty on June 29, 2018, 06:57:51 PM
Indie stuff these days should just come out for everything tbh. Though thankfully that seems to be the case more and more.

Unreal and Unity baybeh. 8)
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: kingv on June 29, 2018, 07:29:49 PM
Unfortunately Unity games in particular just seem to be terribly optimized on Switch.

Third parties just need to understand that there’s not much of a market for old ports or feature incomplete ports. It’s a hard sell to buy the latest South Park RPG on Switch for $60 when it’s selling for $20 on PS4 and X1 every other week.

My bold prediction is that Switch becomes the primary platform for Japanese centric games in the next 2 years. It regularly doubles the sales of the PS4 in Japan, eventually devs making games for a primarily Japanese audience will notice.

Edit; maybe even sooner. I would not be surprised for Switch to overtake PS4 in Japan By the end of its 2nd year.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Corporal on June 29, 2018, 07:44:09 PM
Switch to become some sort of successful Vita, eh? Judging by Japanese sales, that might very well happen. I certainly wouldn't mind.

Quote from: Tasty Meat on June 29, 2018, 06:34:51 PM
>big third parties are fleeing in abject terror

> Wolfenstein II was released on Switch today
Aw c'mon Tasty. Don't do this to yourself. :-\

You raise an interesting point though. That game should be doomed, by all accounts. Late port, middle-of-the-franchise release without simultaneous prequel port, a step down from said prequel. Franchise hasn't been on any related platform for ages either. That's kinda risky.

(Less aggravating than the ME3 idiocy on WiiU for sure, ... but still kind of a weird choice even if you  only treat is as "training" for the devs.)

Will still sell some copies for sure, after all the switch software market is still rather young, hype is somewhat still going and there's very little like Wolfie 2 on the switch. Far cry from a genuine effort, though.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Tasty on June 29, 2018, 08:14:55 PM
Yeah bork has been saying it's the new Vita for a while. :lol
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Post by: tiesto on June 30, 2018, 11:09:51 AM
Quote from: Tasty Meat on June 29, 2018, 06:34:51 PM
>big third parties are fleeing in abject terror

> Wolfenstein II was released on Switch today

SE recently announced a Switch specific studio as well. If their games continue along the lines of Octopath,  :lawd
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Post by: agrajag on July 04, 2018, 11:14:58 AM
Fwiw wolfenstein has been creeping up the eshop charts. It wasn't top 30 the first few days of release, and slowly climbed and now sitting at 17. Considering it's a 60 dollar game and most high charting titles on the eshop are significantly cheaper.
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Post by: agrajag on July 08, 2018, 05:15:33 PM
Quote from: agrajag on July 04, 2018, 11:14:58 AM
Fwiw wolfenstein has been creeping up the eshop charts. It wasn't top 3 the first few days of release, and slowly climbed and now sitting at 17. Considering it's a 60 dollar game and most high charting titles on the eshop are significantly cheaper.

Wolf is now top 10 on eshop, the only non-Nintendo $60 dollar game on there.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: kingv on July 08, 2018, 10:25:47 PM
We all nintentards now!
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Corporal on July 09, 2018, 03:41:48 PM
That's Nintenyearolds for you.

Or Ninthings.


Gonna be interesting to see just how many "MMO" shooters Switch can support. There's Paladins, Fortnite, and Warframe in the probably not so near future.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: agrajag on July 18, 2018, 01:46:18 PM
When is the F2P version of Paladins coming?

Anywho, Octopath opened at 110k in japan
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Post by: kingv on July 18, 2018, 10:41:27 PM
Based Nintendo has 9/10 of the top selling games on media create last week.

Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Joe Molotov on July 18, 2018, 10:43:28 PM
Quote from: agrajag on July 18, 2018, 01:46:18 PM
Anywho, Octopath opened at 110k in japan

They also shipped 110k in Japan.
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Post by: team filler on July 19, 2018, 12:11:04 AM
 :D
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Nintex on July 31, 2018, 05:23:24 AM
Nintendo posted some new financials.

Best analysis I've seen so far:
https://twitter.com/ynakamura56/status/1024195781887111168 (https://twitter.com/ynakamura56/status/1024195781887111168)

The Switch has already outsold the Wii U but software sales are slow.
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Post by: benjipwns on July 31, 2018, 07:44:57 AM
(https://media1.tenor.com/images/13e3d809ec4f44e39ce04ac00313ff1f/tenor.gif?itemid=4902066)
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: HardcoreRetro on July 31, 2018, 08:02:26 AM
Does Kirby become transgender if he eats a pussy?
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Post by: Nintex on July 31, 2018, 08:30:05 AM
I knew something was up with those numbers

https://twitter.com/mochi_wsj/status/1024201777753645056 (https://twitter.com/mochi_wsj/status/1024201777753645056)

Now it makes more sense.
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Post by: Raist on July 31, 2018, 09:02:58 AM
I'd assume they would'nt be included for the "last year" figures, no?

Besides, Apr-June 2017 was right after the launch. And included MK8. I'm not shocked by those numbers TBH.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: kingv on July 31, 2018, 11:21:26 AM
Quote from: Raist on July 31, 2018, 09:02:58 AM
I'd assume they would'nt be included for the "last year" figures, no?

Besides, Apr-June 2017 was right after the launch. And included MK8. I'm not shocked by those numbers TBH.

I’d say those numbers are actually really good. Especially considering that not much notable has come out in Q2. Comparing back to launch numbers and saying sales and attach rate has went down doesn’t really make sense. It seems really obvious that the first people to buy a switch are going to get more games.
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Post by: Great Rumbler on July 31, 2018, 06:03:05 PM
Quote
Super Mario Odyssey: 11.17 million units
Mario Kart 8 Deluxe: 10.35 million units
The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild: 9.32 million units
Splatoon 2: 6.76 million units
1-2-Switch: 2.45 million units
ARMS: 2.01 million units
Kirby Star Allies: 1.89 million units
Xenoblade Chronicles 2: 1.42 million units
Donkey Kong Country: Tropical Freeze: 1.40 million units
Mario Tennis Aces: 1.38 million units

Nintendo announced that its Nintendo Switch console has now sold 19.67 million units worldwide as of June 30. The company has also sold 86.93 million software units for the Switch.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: kingv on July 31, 2018, 06:22:16 PM
Kind of shocked that Donkey Kong, Tennis, and Kirby sold that well. Wonder how Bayo 2 has done...
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Post by: Tasty on July 31, 2018, 06:46:33 PM
Lmao at 1-2-Switch being fucking fifth. And it's not like there's been any long droughts. 90% of those must be launch-day sales.

Best Mario Kart game ever hitting #2 even though it's an enhanced port :rejoice

In a little over a year it's sold almost 2 million more than vanilla MK8 too :whew
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on August 01, 2018, 03:38:49 PM
Mk is trash sorry bebe
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Post by: Tasty on August 01, 2018, 03:47:12 PM
What kind of misanthropic piece of flaming garbage do you have to be to shit on the gaming equivalent of a rainbow.
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Post by: Trent Dole on August 01, 2018, 03:47:19 PM
Quote from: Premium Lager on August 01, 2018, 03:38:49 PM
Mk is trash sorry bebe
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SHoNWwhzh3M
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Post by: team filler on August 01, 2018, 07:01:36 PM
crash team racing fans  ::)
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: bluemax on August 01, 2018, 11:57:38 PM
Quote from: kingv on June 29, 2018, 07:29:49 PM
Unfortunately Unity games in particular just seem to be terribly optimized on Switch.

Third parties just need to understand that there’s not much of a market for old ports or feature incomplete ports. It’s a hard sell to buy the latest South Park RPG on Switch for $60 when it’s selling for $20 on PS4 and X1 every other week.

My bold prediction is that Switch becomes the primary platform for Japanese centric games in the next 2 years. It regularly doubles the sales of the PS4 in Japan, eventually devs making games for a primarily Japanese audience will notice.

Edit; maybe even sooner. I would not be surprised for Switch to overtake PS4 in Japan By the end of its 2nd year.

Making a well optimized game in Unity is hard enough to begin with, doing it on a console is even more of a pain in the fucking ass. I don't know if there is a dollar amount that would get me to agree to shipping a Unity game on a console again.

Maybe in a couple of years Mike Acton and the dudes will change that, but for now hard pass.
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Post by: kingv on August 02, 2018, 01:08:04 AM
I'd be curious in understanding why. A lot of the games on unity that play like dog shit are not really very impressive graphically when it comes right down to it. It's weird to me that they perform so poorly on the switch (and frankly sometimes even a PS4).
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Post by: agrajag on August 02, 2018, 01:16:08 AM
It's weird to me seeing DK sales figure lower than a Kirby game. Nintendo really didn't take care of the franchise with all those weird bongo games.
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Post by: Cerveza mas fina on August 02, 2018, 03:55:34 AM
Quote from: Tasty Meat on August 01, 2018, 03:47:12 PM
What kind of misanthropic piece of flaming garbage do you have to be to shit on the gaming equivalent of a rainbow.

The randomness really ruins the experience. There should be a mode without power ups.

One of the reasons why Diddy Kong Racing was the better RACING game to this day is that you didnt get random shit at least.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Nintex on August 02, 2018, 12:10:35 PM
Best selling console in the US for June is the NES Classic  :tophat
But from 99 MSPR upwards (some NPD's dick PR speak) it's the PS4 at #1 and Switch at #2.

Xbox One and PS4 sales also up compared to last year.
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Post by: Fifstar on August 02, 2018, 04:21:31 PM
Quote from: Premium Lager on August 02, 2018, 03:55:34 AM
Quote from: Tasty Meat on August 01, 2018, 03:47:12 PM
What kind of misanthropic piece of flaming garbage do you have to be to shit on the gaming equivalent of a rainbow.

The randomness really ruins the experience. There should be a mode without power ups.

One of the reasons why Diddy Kong Racing was the better RACING game to this day is that you didnt get random shit at least.

You can deactivate power ups in custom races In mk8 I think.

What sucks is that the game unlocks all major content from the start so there is no reason to even beat the unbalanced single player.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: archie4208 on August 03, 2018, 09:59:53 AM
https://twitter.com/NintendoEurope/status/1025275122863800326
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Post by: kingv on August 03, 2018, 10:49:33 AM
Can’t believe mario tennis aces was #1 in June. People actually like that shit that much?
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Post by: MMaRsu on August 04, 2018, 09:02:17 AM
Quote from: kingv on August 03, 2018, 10:49:33 AM
Can’t believe mario tennis aces was #1 in June. People actually like that shit that much?

What other games came out?
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Post by: Raist on August 04, 2018, 11:40:56 AM
Mario in the title. That's enough for Nintards to buy buckets of it.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: agrajag on August 04, 2018, 11:49:38 AM
Quote from: Exodust on August 02, 2018, 03:54:12 AM
DKCR on the Wii sold a fuckton if I remember correctly.

Yeah but it released on Nintendo's most popular console, when itbwas still not completely past its prime. In comparisson, DKC does poorly compared to Kirby on a console with a 20 mil install base.. Consider for a second that the original DKC was one of the top selling SNES games of all time.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: archie4208 on August 20, 2018, 07:45:43 AM
http://www.capcom.co.jp/ir/english/news/html/e180820.html
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Tasty on August 20, 2018, 11:29:04 AM
Quote from: archie4208 on August 20, 2018, 07:45:43 AM
http://www.capcom.co.jp/ir/english/news/html/e180820.html

:whew
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Tasty on August 20, 2018, 11:29:49 AM
Quote
Monster Hunter: World, the best-selling title in company history, achieved this 10 million-unit milestone following the titles' PC release on the globally accessible Steam platform, allowing the game to appeal to a wider fan base spread across a greater number of regions, and in combination with continued robust sales of the home console version of the game even now, more than six months after its release.

:obama
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Positive Touch on August 20, 2018, 09:01:45 PM
so now that the series has established world dominance, can we please get a palico- centered spinoff?
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Tasty on August 21, 2018, 10:17:06 AM
Quote from: Positive Touch on August 20, 2018, 09:01:45 PM
so now that the series has established world dominance, can we please get a palico- centered spinoff?

I heard Stories was OK and they play more of a story role in that.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Joe Molotov on August 22, 2018, 02:05:27 PM
Microsoft finally has a #1 selling game in Japan. :rejoice

(https://i.imgur.com/9YRrf4Z.png)
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Great Rumbler on August 22, 2018, 04:30:32 PM
Only one game not on a Nintendo system in the top 15. :neogaf
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: HardcoreRetro on August 22, 2018, 04:36:32 PM
They should bring that Taiko game over with the controllers.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Tasty on August 22, 2018, 05:32:22 PM
Quote from: Great Rumbler on August 22, 2018, 04:30:32 PM
Only one game not on a Nintendo system in the top 15. :neogaf

filler just came buckets.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Nintex on August 22, 2018, 06:24:10 PM
US sales NPD

Octopath Traveler #1 software All Platforms
Half of July's top 10 best-sellers are Nintendo platform exclusives.

Switch #1 hardware

Xbox One up yoy

 :nintendo

spoiler (click to show/hide)
PlayStation crushed Sony has no $$$ to compete only flute players and Kojima garbage carrying is new Shenmue money waster :esports

Xboax getting all dat revenue through Ultra GamePass, Xbox Live GoLd Playah and X Xbox X One X X Hardware :dice

Superior Square Enix exclusive(TM) JRPG on Nintendo Switch blowing minds of filthy gajin :miyamoto

Where's your monster hunter wold now mothafucka :mynicca
[close]
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Great Rumbler on August 22, 2018, 06:29:45 PM
Good to see Octopath doing well. It's not a great game, all things considered, but I do like a lot of what it's doing and a sequel with bigger budget and a bit more ambition would definitely get my money.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: tiesto on August 22, 2018, 06:29:52 PM
Quote from: Joe Molotov on August 22, 2018, 02:05:27 PM
Microsoft finally has a #1 selling game in Japan. :rejoice

(https://i.imgur.com/9YRrf4Z.png)

Blue Dragon and Lost Odyssey were #1 on their release, I'd imagine.

Anyways GO OCTOPATH!
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Nintex on August 22, 2018, 06:34:09 PM
Nintendo better watch out that the Microsoft ballers don't buy Square Enix  :doge
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: team filler on August 22, 2018, 06:39:04 PM
 :D 8)
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Joe Molotov on August 22, 2018, 07:43:53 PM
Quote from: tiesto on August 22, 2018, 06:29:52 PM
Quote from: Joe Molotov on August 22, 2018, 02:05:27 PM
Microsoft finally has a #1 selling game in Japan. :rejoice

(https://i.imgur.com/9YRrf4Z.png)

Blue Dragon and Lost Odyssey were #1 on their release, I'd imagine.

Anyways GO OCTOPATH!

(https://i.imgur.com/YMC6hSf.gif)

(https://i.imgur.com/THXCHLD.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/70AQMkg.png)
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: HardcoreRetro on August 23, 2018, 06:25:46 AM
At least the Lost Odyssey commercial will always be number 1 in my heart.

https://youtu.be/8-x12UEo-rs
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on August 23, 2018, 09:44:08 PM
It's a shame what happened with the Blue Dragon series.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on August 24, 2018, 09:41:46 AM
Series?
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Joe Molotov on August 24, 2018, 10:35:57 AM
Quote from: Premium Lager on August 24, 2018, 09:41:46 AM
Series?

There were two more games that were sent to die in Nintendo's handheld ghetto. :(
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: HardcoreRetro on August 25, 2018, 02:35:37 PM
Blue Dragon talk and not mentioning this masterpiece.

https://youtu.be/LUjxPj3al5U


Shameful.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: archie4208 on September 01, 2018, 03:53:16 PM
https://nintendoeverything.com/mario-rabbids-kingdom-battle-sells-over-two-million-copies/

:obama
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: archie4208 on October 24, 2018, 10:39:01 AM
https://twitter.com/MatPiscatella/status/1054961609700007936

Now it's a bit dishonest to compare it since DQ11 is $60 and DQ9 was $40(?), but I'm glad it did pretty well. 
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Great Rumbler on October 30, 2018, 05:18:44 PM
Quote
Nintendo revealed that its Nintendo Switch console has sold 22.86 million units worldwide as of September 30. The company has also sold 111.10 million software units for the Switch. The console has now surpassed the lifetime worldwide unit sales of the Nintendo GameCube, which has sold 21.74 million units.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Himu on October 30, 2018, 05:26:49 PM
About 17 million more units and you lose the bet, Lager.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Tasty on October 30, 2018, 06:11:49 PM
Quote from: Great Rumbler on October 30, 2018, 05:18:44 PM
Quote
Nintendo revealed that its Nintendo Switch console has sold 22.86 million units worldwide as of September 30. The company has also sold 111.10 million software units for the Switch. The console has now surpassed the lifetime worldwide unit sales of the Nintendo GameCube, which has sold 21.74 million units.

The real reason filler returned today. 8)
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: archie4208 on November 07, 2018, 05:01:56 AM
https://gematsu.com/2018/11/dragon-quest-xi-echoes-of-an-elusive-age-shipments-and-digital-sales-top-four-million

~733k sales in the west after two months seems solid.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Tasty on November 07, 2018, 11:02:58 AM
It's certainly not a bad sign I don't think, but who knows what the publisher's expectations are.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Himu on November 07, 2018, 11:04:03 AM
Quote from: archie4208 on November 07, 2018, 05:01:56 AM
https://gematsu.com/2018/11/dragon-quest-xi-echoes-of-an-elusive-age-shipments-and-digital-sales-top-four-million

~733k sales in the west after two months seems solid.

That's fantastic for DQ.

And it didn't come with an FF demo this time.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: archie4208 on November 07, 2018, 05:26:27 PM
http://ir.take2games.com/phoenix.zhtml?c=86428&p=irol-newsarticle&ID=2375981

RDR 2 already at 17 million.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Tasty on November 08, 2018, 10:13:12 AM
WTF
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Nintex on November 18, 2018, 03:55:47 PM
https://twitter.com/MatPiscatella/status/1064176590135820288 (https://twitter.com/MatPiscatella/status/1064176590135820288)

NPD person mildly shocked as Nintendo's Pokemon game does well.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Himu on November 18, 2018, 04:02:10 PM
Quote from: archie4208 on November 07, 2018, 05:26:27 PM
http://ir.take2games.com/phoenix.zhtml?c=86428&p=irol-newsarticle&ID=2375981

RDR 2 already at 17 million.

Rockstar is the closest this industry has to well, rockstars. It’s insane.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Nintex on November 18, 2018, 06:15:31 PM
https://twitter.com/Chris_Dring/status/1064269628405424129 (https://twitter.com/Chris_Dring/status/1064269628405424129)

In the UK, Pokemon did ok. Not sure how Nintendo will reach their lavish targets with numbers like these though.

Fallout is yikes.  :lol

Hitman is...

Quote
Compared with 2012's Hitman Absolution, launch physical sales of Hitman 2 are down 90 per cent.

 :doge
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Great Rumbler on November 18, 2018, 09:03:00 PM
Quote from: Nintex on November 18, 2018, 06:15:31 PM
https://twitter.com/Chris_Dring/status/1064269628405424129 (https://twitter.com/Chris_Dring/status/1064269628405424129)

Fallout is yikes.  :lol

Not really surprised, there, multiplayer is the only real draw and it's definitely not nearly enough to get people excited. On the other hand, Fallout 4 was a massive hit [12 million copies went out to retailers on day 1], so a big drop off still means a lot of copies got sold.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Raist on November 19, 2018, 01:11:45 AM
Quote from: Nintex on November 18, 2018, 03:55:47 PM
https://twitter.com/MatPiscatella/status/1064176590135820288 (https://twitter.com/MatPiscatella/status/1064176590135820288)

NPD person mildly shocked as Nintendo's Pokemon game does well.


... relief? He got Nintendo stocks or something?
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: thisismyusername on November 19, 2018, 01:35:50 AM
Quote from: Raist on November 19, 2018, 01:11:45 AM
Quote from: Nintex on November 18, 2018, 03:55:47 PM
https://twitter.com/MatPiscatella/status/1064176590135820288 (https://twitter.com/MatPiscatella/status/1064176590135820288)

NPD person mildly shocked as Nintendo's Pokemon game does well.


... relief? He got Nintendo stocks or something?

A bunch of /vp/ folks thought it was going to bomb because low Amazon ranking in the US and Japan, so low pre-order numbers. B-b-b-bomba and all that.

Surprise, /v/ being wrong on something.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Nintex on November 19, 2018, 06:14:47 PM
From what I'm seeing, quite a few of the core Nintendo fanbase are still on the fence (but leaning to picking it up at some point) or don't like the 'Go' turn Nintendo has taken. It also explains the low user scores on Metacritic.
However a lot of new players who've only played Go on their phones or picked up the Switch casually are very interested in the game. And the overall vibe seems to be 'better than expected'.

Based on Twitch and Twitter coverage a lot of the gamer girl streamers are also hooked to dressing up and petting their Eevee's.

Nintendo is selling cute/adorable (Eevee) and nostalgia (Pikachu) and it seems to work.
If you're a 90's kid you'd have to be dead inside if the trailer they cut to the original theme song of the TV show doesn't remind you of your childhood.  :'(
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Tasty on November 19, 2018, 06:44:23 PM
Quote
If you're a 90's kid you'd have to be dead inside if the trailer they cut to the original theme song of the TV show doesn't remind you of your childhood.  :'(

Or you never stopped being a fan of the series, and now have to actively prevent yourself from eyerolling when Kanto and the anime's first season get referenced nonstop.

It was neat when they brought the OG theme back for X/Y. Most people thought The Pokemon Company wouldn't reference the 4kids seasons as heavily as that.

And then it was sorta neat last year when the OG theme was the ending to the movie.

But now they're just slapping it over some game footage and expecting me to care.

Playing this game, I kinda feel like Mika Stoklasa watching Star Trek 09.

Like, I can recognize things I like there, but it wasn't even made for me anyways.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Nintex on November 19, 2018, 06:56:37 PM
I have a feeling the game will flame out faster than other Pokemon titles because it seems very light on content for a Pokemon game.
After all they removed the grind and replaced it with catching plus they made all Pokemon visible in the overworld.

People that picked it up on friday are already sharing scenes of late game content.

Pokemon Yellow sits at ~35 hours on 'How long to beat'.

I can't see Pokemon Let's Go Matching that.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Raist on November 20, 2018, 01:48:24 PM
Quote from: thisismyusername on November 19, 2018, 01:35:50 AM
Quote from: Raist on November 19, 2018, 01:11:45 AM
Quote from: Nintex on November 18, 2018, 03:55:47 PM
https://twitter.com/MatPiscatella/status/1064176590135820288 (https://twitter.com/MatPiscatella/status/1064176590135820288)

NPD person mildly shocked as Nintendo's Pokemon game does well.


... relief? He got Nintendo stocks or something?

A bunch of /vp/ folks thought it was going to bomb because low Amazon ranking in the US and Japan, so low pre-order numbers. B-b-b-bomba and all that.

Surprise, /v/ being wrong on something.


It's just a weird choice of words. Like, he was actually worried pokemanz would tank.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Nintex on November 21, 2018, 03:03:47 PM
https://twitter.com/MatPiscatella/status/1064683171013218305 (https://twitter.com/MatPiscatella/status/1064683171013218305)

Kinda obvious this guy has a stake in Nintendo
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Fifstar on November 22, 2018, 04:05:08 AM
Quote from: Nintex on November 21, 2018, 03:03:47 PM
https://twitter.com/MatPiscatella/status/1064683171013218305 (https://twitter.com/MatPiscatella/status/1064683171013218305)

Kinda obvious this guy has a stake in Nintendo

Not really. His main stick is "everybody is doing fantastic", celebrating good sales in general. He's very positive on Sony and Xbox in the NPD threads on era all the time too. He seems to be some kind of social media figure head for the NPD.

Regarding the Pokemon post, it's just a better story to say "uh, we had a bad feeling about this one but now it exeeded our expectations" than "yeah, it did pretty well like all pokemon games".
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Tasty on November 22, 2018, 11:34:33 AM
IGN: Pokémon: Let's Go, Pikachu! and Let's Go, Eevee! have sold three million copies in just one week and have become the fastest selling Nintendo Switch titles since the system's launch in March of 2017. (https://www.ign.com/articles/2018/11/22/pokemon-lets-go-pikachu-and-eevee-break-switch-sales-record-2)
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Raist on November 22, 2018, 02:12:14 PM
Quote from: Nintex on November 21, 2018, 03:03:47 PM
https://twitter.com/MatPiscatella/status/1064683171013218305 (https://twitter.com/MatPiscatella/status/1064683171013218305)

Kinda obvious this guy has a stake in Nintendo

I'll help him figure it out: they're garbage (well except SM64).
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Tasty on November 22, 2018, 09:03:42 PM
NSMB Wii and MKDS were really good.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Tasty on November 30, 2018, 12:56:47 AM
Nintendo Switch is predicted to outsell the PS4 in 2019 according to Strategy Analytics (https://news.strategyanalytics.com/press-release/devices/nintendo-will-take-number-one-spot-sony-2019-game-console-market-says)
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Raist on November 30, 2018, 01:50:09 AM
Analysts, AKA "I'm captain obvious, fuck you pay me".
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Nintex on November 30, 2018, 06:15:13 PM
We get the worst advice from our teachers and parents.
"You should work and study hard"
"You should be a doctor/manager/builder/computer programmer/dentist/lawyer/whatever"

It's never:
"Just become a corporate lobbyist my son. You'll be sipping champagne and snorting coke from the asses of hot interns"
or
"Do you know what a hedgefund manager is? How about I tell you about how you can own 3 houses and have the money of other people pay for them"
or
"Do you see those politicians? They have these people called advisors. They get paid the big bucks without doing much at all"
or
"Become an analyst in basically anything and get paid to predict things based on nothing really. You could drive a Porsche if you want"

Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: kingv on December 01, 2018, 12:04:07 PM
I always tell my daughter “do you know what an Instagram thot is? Don’t you want to go to Dubai?”
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Great Rumbler on December 01, 2018, 12:19:10 PM
Quote from: https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2018-11-29/switch-console-breaks-nintendo-black-friday-weekend-record/.140098
Nintendo revealed on Wednesday that the Nintendo Switch is now the highest-selling console in the company's history during the Thanksgiving-Cyber Monday period (November 22-26), surpassing the sales of the Wii during that same time period in previous years. The time period was also the best-selling week for the Switch in the United States, and was the top-selling video game product online from Black Friday to Cyber Monday (November 23-26).

According to Nintendo, buyers purchased US$250 million in Nintendo products from November 22 to 26. Sales for Nintendo Switch hardware grew 115% compared to the same time period last year. First party Switch games (games developed, produced, or published by Nintendo) topped 1 million units (including digital downloads) from November 22-26, a 78% increase from last year over the same time period.

Combined sales of the Pokémon: Let's Go, Pikachu! and Pokémon: Let's Go, Eevee! Nintendo Switch games in the United States have hit more than 1.5 million units since the November 16 launch (the game recently recorded sales of 3 million units worldwide in its first week).

The Super Mario Party game's lifetime sales surpassed 1 million units in the U.S. as of Cyber Monday, and is now the fastest-selling game in the Mario Party series. The game is also the fifth million-selling first-party Nintendo Switch game in the United States.

Nintendo also reported that the Pokémon Ultra Sun and Pokémon Ultra Moon 3DS games have a combined lifetime sales of more than 2.2 million units in the U.S.

Nintendo also revealed that the lifetime sales of the Nintendo Switch in the United States have surpassed 8.2 million units, and Nintendo 3DS lifetime sales in the United States have surpassed 22 million units. The Super NES Classic Edition console has surpassed 2.5 million units in lifetime sales, while the NES Classic Edition surpassed lifetime sales of 2 million units.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Tasty on December 01, 2018, 12:33:29 PM
Reggie redeemed  :success
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Nintex on December 01, 2018, 01:42:48 PM
And Smash Bros. is yet to hit.

 :lawd
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: kingv on December 01, 2018, 07:15:11 PM
Looks like they have a shot at hitting 20 mil.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Himu on December 01, 2018, 09:25:04 PM
Quote from: Great Rumbler on December 01, 2018, 12:19:10 PM
Quote from: https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2018-11-29/switch-console-breaks-nintendo-black-friday-weekend-record/.140098
Nintendo revealed on Wednesday that the Nintendo Switch is now the highest-selling console in the company's history during the Thanksgiving-Cyber Monday period (November 22-26), surpassing the sales of the Wii during that same time period in previous years. The time period was also the best-selling week for the Switch in the United States, and was the top-selling video game product online from Black Friday to Cyber Monday (November 23-26).

According to Nintendo, buyers purchased US$250 million in Nintendo products from November 22 to 26. Sales for Nintendo Switch hardware grew 115% compared to the same time period last year. First party Switch games (games developed, produced, or published by Nintendo) topped 1 million units (including digital downloads) from November 22-26, a 78% increase from last year over the same time period.

Combined sales of the Pokémon: Let's Go, Pikachu! and Pokémon: Let's Go, Eevee! Nintendo Switch games in the United States have hit more than 1.5 million units since the November 16 launch (the game recently recorded sales of 3 million units worldwide in its first week).

The Super Mario Party game's lifetime sales surpassed 1 million units in the U.S. as of Cyber Monday, and is now the fastest-selling game in the Mario Party series. The game is also the fifth million-selling first-party Nintendo Switch game in the United States.

Nintendo also reported that the Pokémon Ultra Sun and Pokémon Ultra Moon 3DS games have a combined lifetime sales of more than 2.2 million units in the U.S.

Nintendo also revealed that the lifetime sales of the Nintendo Switch in the United States have surpassed 8.2 million units, and Nintendo 3DS lifetime sales in the United States have surpassed 22 million units. The Super NES Classic Edition console has surpassed 2.5 million units in lifetime sales, while the NES Classic Edition surpassed lifetime sales of 2 million units.

BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA


...i really need to get into stocks. This keeps happening! I keep predicting the market. :bow

bubububububu ps4 and xbox one make nintendo systems redundant bubububu-ing :lol
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Raist on December 02, 2018, 07:44:26 AM
Buying stocks, the most fun one can have with Ninty-related things.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Tasty on December 02, 2018, 11:26:11 AM
Quote from: Raist on December 02, 2018, 07:44:26 AM
Buying stocks, the most fun one can have with Ninty-related things.

(https://i.imgur.com/WfjQdeZ.jpg)
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Great Rumbler on December 06, 2018, 10:06:16 AM
3.5 million copies shipped for Nier: Automata:

https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/daily-briefs/2018-12-06/nier-automata-game-worldwide-digital-sales-shipments-exceed-3.5-million/.140458
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Nintex on December 06, 2018, 02:39:23 PM
3.5 million people now depressed and reconsidering existence BECOME AS GODS  :rejoice
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Nintex on December 09, 2018, 01:59:44 PM
UK numbers for Smash are in.
Quote
The game's launch sales are 302 per cent higher than the numbers achieved by Super Smash Bros for Wii U and they're 233 per cent higher than Super Smash Bros for 3DS. Launch sales are also 62.5 per cent higher than the Wii game Super Smash Bros Brawl. All of which means Ultimate is the fastest-selling Smash Bros game in the franchise's UK history.

It's worth noting that the sales only include physical numbers, so digital downloads of Ultimate have not been counted.
:dead
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Nintex on December 11, 2018, 04:40:25 PM
First Japanese sales mumblings for Smash.

1.3 million

Highest opening for non-Pokemon Nintendo game in Japan ever if true  :doge
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Tasty on December 11, 2018, 05:08:33 PM
I can't imagine what this monster is doing in the US.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Great Rumbler on December 11, 2018, 05:47:58 PM
Quote from: Tasty Meat on December 11, 2018, 05:08:33 PM
I can't imagine what this monster is doing in the US.

Should at least do Brawl numbers [1.4 million in the first week], if not better.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Great Rumbler on December 12, 2018, 05:52:49 PM
Media Create numbers:

-Super Smash Brothers Ultimate (Including Bundled Editions) - 1,220,535   
-Switch - 281,222
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Nintex on December 12, 2018, 06:53:05 PM
Holy shit.

Higher opening than New Super Mario Bros. Wii did back in the day.
It almost got to Melee LTD sales at launch.

This game is a monster.

next year Nintendo has another slate of big sellers lined up at a faster pace than this year (which was fuck all and Pokemon and Zelda at the end):
- Fire Emblem
- Animal Crossing
- Pokemon RPG

And other stuff sprinkled in between.
Pac-Man might close his mouth.  :doge


Also I wonder if Nintendo has fired the fucker who said:
"What say you? New Super Mario Bros. Switch? F-Zero Switch? Pilotwings Switch? Star Fox Switch? Pikmin Switch?"
"No my man me and my team are gonna waste my precious first party development time playing with these cardboard boxes instead!"
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Tripon on December 19, 2018, 11:15:56 AM
Updated Smash numbers: 406.617 for a total of 1.6 million.
Pokemon also sold another 108K to go to 1.1 million.

Switch sold 281K
PS4 sold 81K
3DS sold 20K
PSV sold 2.6K
XB1 sold 1K

Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Nintex on December 19, 2018, 07:35:01 PM
Quote
Nintendo Australia has just announced that Super Smash Bros. Ultimate is now the fastest-selling Nintendo home console game in Australia and New Zealand – ever.

Total Australian and New Zealand sales over the first three days were almost 80% higher than that of Super Mario Odyssey. In addition, Smash Bros. Ultimate is the fastest selling eShop game ever. Nintendo Australia’s figures come from internal data and include eShop sales.

 :whew
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Tasty on December 20, 2018, 08:57:53 AM
:lawd
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: kingv on December 22, 2018, 11:22:54 AM
I wonder how well that PS classic is selling, because every time I go to a store I see stacks of them.

Just goes to show the Nintendo master race.

 :asuka :stan
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Nintex on December 22, 2018, 11:32:41 AM
In Europe I've seen them at store counters 20% / 30% off.
It doesn't seem like it'll be kept in stock long after the holidays.

Although I must say that NES/SNES classics are also in stock everywhere.
It seems like demand for those has dried up.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Joe Molotov on December 22, 2018, 11:47:28 AM
Quote from: kingv on December 22, 2018, 11:22:54 AM
I wonder how well that PS classic is selling, because every time I go to a store I see stacks of them.

Just goes to show the Nintendo master race.

 :asuka :stan

Pic I snapped when I was at Best Buy last night.

(https://i.imgur.com/C2aKQO4.jpg)

 :mike
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Nintex on December 22, 2018, 11:57:04 AM
Hey Kids want to play 50hz versions of the PS1 games that weren't your favorites back in the day and also Final Fantasy VII, Tekken 3 and Ridge Racer.

Boy do we have a product for you!
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Joe Molotov on December 22, 2018, 12:32:13 PM
It's called the PSTV!
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Rahxephon91 on December 22, 2018, 06:50:24 PM
I mean regardless of the thing being a shitty product. As someone who that should appeal to, I have plenty of solid and official ways to play PS1 games already.

The PS3, PSP, Vita, and Vita TV.

Before the PS4 Sony had done a really good job about having PS1 games accessible.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: kingv on December 22, 2018, 10:32:28 PM
To be honest, the pax/n64 generation of games are the ones I have the least interest in going back to without, at the bare minimum, frame rate improvements.

So many of those are just so rough technically, and Frankly there just aren’t that many games that are that great from the time period.

I’m not sure I could pick more than a dozen from both systems combined that I really have any interest in playing again.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: thisismyusername on January 02, 2019, 05:19:38 PM
So, if VGChartz is to be believed: BF5 sold 3.3 million copies. :neogaf
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Great Rumbler on January 02, 2019, 05:45:48 PM
Quote from: thisismyusername on January 02, 2019, 05:19:38 PM
VGChartz

 :cmonson
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Great Rumbler on January 10, 2019, 02:40:30 PM
Quote from: https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/daily-briefs/2019-01-10/ps4-console-sells-91.6-million-units-worldwide/.141796
Sony Interactive Entertainment (SIE) announced on Monday that the PlayStation 4 game console has cumulatively sold more than 91.6 million units globally as of December 31, 2018, and sold more than 5.6 million units globally during the 2018 holiday season.

In addition, SIE noted that the Marvel's Spider-Man game has sold more than 9 million copies worldwide as of November 25, 2018. The game shipped last September. The total number of PS4 games sold cumulatively worldwide amount to 876 million copies, and more than 50.7 million game copies for the PS4 were sold during the 2018 holiday season.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on January 15, 2019, 11:34:23 PM
Dang PS4 going to be the 3rd PS to hit over a 100 million

Meanwhile all xboxes combined have sold less then PS2

Microsoft  :lol
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Trent Dole on January 16, 2019, 01:36:58 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/XVpA8JI.jpg)
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: team filler on January 17, 2019, 04:41:56 PM
where are the sales  ???
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: team filler on January 18, 2019, 07:04:33 PM
Quote from: filler on January 17, 2019, 04:41:56 PM
where are the sales  ???
???
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Tasty on January 18, 2019, 08:00:00 PM
Quote from: filler on January 18, 2019, 07:04:33 PM
Quote from: filler on January 17, 2019, 04:41:56 PM
where are the sales  ???
???

Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: team filler on January 18, 2019, 08:26:47 PM
 ::)
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Tasty on January 19, 2019, 09:05:00 AM
:P
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Joe Molotov on January 27, 2019, 04:48:20 PM
https://www.businessinsider.com/nintendo-switch-best-selling-console-2018-2019-1

Quote
Nintendo had an impressive 2018 — the analysts at the NPD Group report that the Nintendo Switch was the best-selling console of the year, and that for the the first time since 2009, the Japanese company earned more revenue from its games than any other publisher.

Nintendo reports that 8.7 million Switch units have been sold in the U.S. from its launch in March 2017 through November 2018. The NPD group reports that December sales for the Switch were the highest for any console since the Nintendo Wii in December 2009. Riding the sales of the Switch, overall console sales grew to their highest totals since 2009, too.

(https://i.imgur.com/OcsGnag.gif)
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Tasty on January 27, 2019, 10:37:33 PM
Waiting for when Switch US LTD beats GameCube's worldwide LTD.

Shouldn't be too long
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on January 31, 2019, 03:12:31 AM
Cube had Metroid though
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Trent Dole on January 31, 2019, 06:52:35 AM
https://www.engadget.com/2019/01/31/nintendo-switch-nears-n64-lifetime-sales/
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: kingv on January 31, 2019, 09:25:51 AM
They sold almost 10 million switches in October-December?! Whoa!

Weeaboo!
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Great Rumbler on January 31, 2019, 03:37:19 PM
Nintendo's ability to rapidly bounce back from failure will never not be compelling.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Nintex on January 31, 2019, 04:47:02 PM
Modern Nintendo's cycle is always predictable
- Reinvents the wheel with a master stroke that drives sales right out of the gate
- Doesn't really understand why their previous product did so well so their next product is based on the wrong assumptions and not nearly as succesful
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Great Rumbler on February 01, 2019, 06:57:07 PM
Quote from: https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/daily-briefs/2019-02-01/ps4-console-sells-94.2-million-units-worldwide/.142883
Sony revealed in its financial results presentation for the third quarter of fiscal year 2018 (October 1, 2018 to December 31, 2018) that it shipped 8.1 million PlayStation 4 units during the quarter, bringing its worldwide total to 94.2 million units. The third-quarter shipments decreased by 0.9 million units compared to the same period in the previous fiscal year.

Sony Interactive Entertainment (SIE) announced in January that it had cumulatively sold more than 91.6 million units globally as of December 31, 2018, and sold more than 5.6 million units globally during the 2018 holiday season.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Nintex on February 05, 2019, 05:32:27 PM
EA is producing some great comedic material today.

https://twitter.com/ZhugeEX/status/1092907238073815041 (https://twitter.com/ZhugeEX/status/1092907238073815041)
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Potato on March 28, 2019, 04:27:38 AM
Anyone remember how many Switch units Nintendo had to sell from Jan-Mar to meet their 20 million target?
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Great Rumbler on March 28, 2019, 08:47:52 AM
They shipped 32 million worldwide through the end of last year.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Fifstar on March 28, 2019, 09:07:51 AM
This week is the last week Media Create releases full numbers. Famitsu and Dengeki are still around but who knows how long until they follow suit.

It's one of the few topics I still follow on Reeee, so I am mildly upset about this /autism
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: kingv on March 28, 2019, 10:55:38 AM
When was that 20 million goal supposed to end?

Edit: looks like it was 4/1/18 through 3/31/19.

If they sold 32 million through the end of 2018... they might actually make it. I think they had 15 million sold at the end of 3/32/2018
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Potato on March 28, 2019, 04:27:07 PM
That's what I was thinking. They have sold almost 1 million in Japan since 1 Jan and sales in the West have been good too. Probably just miss it I think, but they will get close.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Great Rumbler on April 25, 2019, 06:20:40 PM
Quote from: https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2019-04-25/nintendo-sees-13.7-percent-increase-in-sales-in-fiscal-year-2019-reveals-sales-data-for-switch-console-games/.146122
Nintendo sold 16.95 million Nintendo Switch consoles in the fiscal year (a 12.7% increase from last year), and 118.55 million Nintendo Switch software units (an 86.7% increase from last year).


Nintendo also revealed it has sold a total of 34.74 million Nintendo Switch units worldwide as of March 31.


Nintendo has sold a total of 5.95 million combined units of its NES Classic Edition and Super NES Classic Edition.


Mario Kart 8 Deluxe: 16.69 million copies
Super Mario Odyssey: 14.44 million copies
Super Smash Bros. Ultimate: 13.81 million copies
The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild: 12.77 million copies
Pokémon: Let's Go, Pikachu! / Pokémon: Let's Go, Eevee!: 10.63 million copies
Splatoon 2: 8.70 million copies
Super Mario Party: 6.40 million copies
New Super Mario Bros. U Deluxe: 3.31 million copies
1-2-Switch: 2.97 million copies
Mario Tennis Aces: 2.64 million copies
Kirby Star Allies: 2.56 million copies
Donkey Kong Country: Tropical Freeze: 2.25 million copies
Captain Toad: Treasure Tracker: 1.18 million copies
Octopath Traveler: 1.17 million copies
Yoshi's Crafted World: 1.11 million copies
Nintendo Labo Toy Con 01: Variety Kit: 1.09 million copies
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: tiesto on April 25, 2019, 08:39:04 PM
I heard Xeno 2 was over 2 million? Why is it not on the list?
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Great Rumbler on April 25, 2019, 08:52:26 PM
Quote from: tiesto on April 25, 2019, 08:39:04 PM
I heard Xeno 2 was over 2 million? Why is it not on the list?

The chart from Nintendo's report only shows games that sold a million copies in the previous fiscal year [along with their lifetime totals].

I did some digging, and the best estimate I can give you for XB2's total sales is somewhere between 1.53 million [it's total sales as of September 2018] and 2.64 million [the total sales of Mario Tennis Aces, the #10 best-selling game on Switch as reported on Nintendo's website].
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Tasty on April 25, 2019, 10:31:31 PM
Those are fucking crazy numbers for Smash and Pokemon considering the timeframes.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Tasty on April 25, 2019, 10:32:46 PM
Also MK8DX leading the pack and clearly showing Nintendo the importance of Battle Mode fills me with everlasting joy 😊☺️
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Great Rumbler on April 26, 2019, 09:50:42 AM
https://twitter.com/11bitstudios/status/1120998732739350529

Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Raist on April 26, 2019, 04:39:45 PM
17.8M PS4 shipped in FY2018 (down YoY, 2017 was 19M). 96.8M shipped LTD.

"No next-gen PS launch in the next 12 months". You don't say.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on April 26, 2019, 04:45:09 PM
I wonder if Xbox has sold over 30 million
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Trent Dole on April 28, 2019, 02:46:46 PM
Quote from: Borys on April 28, 2019, 01:42:16 PM
Is PS5 really an Autumn 2020 release? :(
Seems to be the general belief. 360 launched 05 and then the bone was '13. So current round will only be a year shorter if new machines hit next year. Of course this gen also may feel a bit shorter cause we got the pro/x upgrades. :meeble
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Nintex on April 28, 2019, 06:56:42 PM
Yup 2020 or even 2021.

Microsoft could pull a fast one but I doubt they have any software ready.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Great Rumbler on April 28, 2019, 07:08:55 PM
Quote from: Nintex on April 28, 2019, 06:56:42 PM
Microsoft could pull a fast one but I doubt they have any software ready.

I doubt their recent studio acquisitions will have anything ready before 2021, at least.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on May 03, 2019, 11:07:37 AM
Uhm excuse me halo 12 is ready to go as is gears 8 and crackdown 4
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Rahxephon91 on May 03, 2019, 12:29:30 PM
Like there will be anymore Crackdown.

You mean Forza whatever.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on May 04, 2019, 12:14:17 AM
Youre prob right
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: thisismyusername on May 07, 2019, 05:59:22 PM
https://twitter.com/DomsPlaying/status/1125855108066086913

:smugpepe
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Tasty on May 07, 2019, 06:50:06 PM
Sims 4 players up?

By 35%?!
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Great Rumbler on May 07, 2019, 07:12:46 PM
Quote from: Tasty Meat on May 07, 2019, 06:50:06 PM
Sims 4 players up?

By 35%?!

The console version came out just a few months before the start of this fiscal year, so it's probably from that.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Tasty on May 07, 2019, 07:13:37 PM
Oh OK, I thought it had somehow become like, an MMO

Like a WoW-like MMO
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: thisismyusername on May 08, 2019, 11:40:54 AM
Bigger news is that BF5:

BritneyFlop.gif 'd.

"Don't like our SJW agenda? Don't buy it!"

Indeed, Patrick Soderlund. Indeed. Good thing you got that golden parachute though!
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Trent Dole on May 08, 2019, 03:50:30 PM
FPS stuff is getting stale in general, how well has CoD been doing lately?
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Chooky on May 08, 2019, 04:56:14 PM
Quote from: thisismyusername on May 08, 2019, 11:40:54 AM
"Don't like our SJW agenda? Don't buy it!"

reaaaaally doubt that was the reason it underperformed
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Nintex on May 08, 2019, 05:52:15 PM
You start out with an alternative history WW2 game.

You turn that into a WW2 game without any of the iconic fights and release a trailer that puts a focus on the cosmetics and how 'inclusive' it is.
And you have Trevor Noah present the thing.

It doesn't sell

 :pika
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: thisismyusername on May 08, 2019, 06:07:11 PM
Quote from: Chooky on May 08, 2019, 04:56:14 PM
Quote from: thisismyusername on May 08, 2019, 11:40:54 AM
"Don't like our SJW agenda? Don't buy it!"

reaaaaally doubt that was the reason it underperformed

Private party that they tried to scrub from the internet:

(https://preview.redd.it/p6jmzypxvp121.jpg?width=960&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=5fa0ee2df029233173ec7b78af845d903d17aee9)

If you want to not believe that folks didn't like the way they were marketed at, well... that's your problem, not mine.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Trent Dole on May 08, 2019, 07:03:36 PM
FPS games are usually for chuds so....
Maybe they were trying to tap into the fat Overwatch market, that game is all hyperdiverse, but it's also actually fun. :teehee
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: thisismyusername on May 08, 2019, 09:48:31 PM
Quote from: Trent Dole on May 08, 2019, 07:03:36 PM
FPS games are usually for chuds so....
Maybe they were trying to tap into the fat Overwatch market, that game is all hyperdiverse, but it's also actually fun. :teehee

That would be hilarious since Overwatch has been dying for like 2-3 years.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: eleuin on May 08, 2019, 11:07:04 PM
How is one screen from a party indicative of the whole failure to sell the game  :confused

It released after closely after two of the biggest games of the year

I promise you the average joe that buys these games does not know nor care about "sjw propaganda"  :cmonson
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Great Rumbler on May 15, 2019, 02:07:49 PM
https://twitter.com/Nibellion/status/1128651405584142343
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: team filler on May 15, 2019, 02:09:34 PM
 :D
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Raist on May 17, 2019, 05:36:57 PM
What a shock.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: thisismyusername on May 18, 2019, 01:25:15 AM
https://twitter.com/HDKirin/status/1129583006660800512


Kotaku writer should've bought more copies of Disgaea 5. :fbm
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on May 18, 2019, 02:13:31 AM
Quote from: Nintex on May 08, 2019, 05:52:15 PM
You start out with an alternative history WW2 game.

You turn that into a WW2 game without any of the iconic fights and release a trailer that puts a focus on the cosmetics and how 'inclusive' it is.
And you have Trevor Noah present the thing.

It doesn't sell

 :pika

One could argue that making such an alternative history is blackwashing (or femalewashing or whatever bs they included in the game) history itself, cultutal appropriation of a historic event, the biggest conflict ever.

You could say that is hugely disrespectful to the memory of those involved.

Anyhoo Battlefield was best around 1-2 and idk why they want to stray from that gritty real world formula (anf afaik bf was always the arcadey game already compared to Arma) anf go down this herp game bs.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on May 18, 2019, 02:19:12 AM
Quote from: thisismyusername on May 08, 2019, 11:40:54 AM
Bigger news is that BF5:

BritneyFlop.gif 'd.

"Don't like our SJW agenda? Don't buy it!"

Indeed, Patrick Soderlund. Indeed. Good thing you got that golden parachute though!

Battlefield should never be about whats between your legs, your skin colour or where u want to stick your wiener in.

Just anonymous cannon fodder in an endless conflict.
Title: Riotious and Chinese Spyware defenders BTFO:
Post by: thisismyusername on May 23, 2019, 11:41:28 AM
BTFO:
T
F
O
:

https://twitter.com/DarkDetectiveNL/status/1131100082512846848

https://twitter.com/DarkDetectiveNL/status/1131104429699194880

:neogaf I hope shooting yourself in the head was worth it, THQ and Deep Silver.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Great Rumbler on May 23, 2019, 03:41:44 PM
lmao
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Tasty on June 26, 2019, 10:08:08 AM
Checked in on Media Create, the only non-Switch game in the top 10 is the PS4 rerelease of Yakuza 5. :doge

Also this was kinda obvious a few years ago but Yokai Watch has completely collapsed. Another corpse of a "Pokemon killer" on the pile.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: team filler on June 26, 2019, 05:08:12 PM
 :D
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Fifstar on June 27, 2019, 05:14:54 AM
Japanese sales overall are tepid though. We'll see how much the Switch killer lineup and the handheld revision will change that.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Potato on June 27, 2019, 07:06:03 PM
Yokai Watch is just another franchise run into the ground by too many sequels and spinoffs too quickly.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Tasty on July 02, 2019, 11:16:27 AM
(https://infographic.statista.com/normal/chartoftheday_12750_nintendo_home_console_sales_n.gif)

Semi-old but still neat to see. :obama
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Trent Dole on July 02, 2019, 01:37:54 PM
Wow, overtaken the 64 and closing in on the SNES. :meeble
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Great Rumbler on July 02, 2019, 02:21:29 PM
Don't see it doing Wii numbers, but it'll probably pass the NES without too much trouble.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Fifstar on July 02, 2019, 04:54:38 PM
Who knows, depending on how low the price for the Switch Mini will go I can see it going beyond 100 million. It's gonna beat 50 million by years end, after less than three years worth of sales.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Tasty on July 02, 2019, 05:30:21 PM
Yeah I was thinking today it's sort of a tossup whether it'll hit 100 mil, but I see it capturing more of the handheld audience in the future, and there's no handheld "competition" this time.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: kingv on July 02, 2019, 05:45:37 PM
Quote from: Fifstar on July 02, 2019, 04:54:38 PM
Who knows, depending on how low the price for the Switch Mini will go I can see it going beyond 100 million. It's gonna beat 50 million by years end, after less than three years worth of sales.

Yeah, if there’s a $150 version in a couple
Of years, I’m sure it will get there.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on July 10, 2019, 06:40:00 AM
Damn Nintendo has some shit console sales compared to industry leader Sony.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: team filler on July 10, 2019, 07:42:59 AM
 ::)
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Potato on July 10, 2019, 08:32:46 AM
Switch lite about to destroy the Japanese charts
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on July 10, 2019, 09:07:19 AM
Its pretty cool but with how shoddy the joy cons are having them stuck and non replaceable is a big nono.

Ill wait for the pro.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Nintex on July 19, 2019, 03:20:37 AM
https://twitter.com/EPro/status/1151955513900335104 (https://twitter.com/EPro/status/1151955513900335104)

Guess this is not the biggest year of Xbox
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Rahxephon91 on July 19, 2019, 03:22:58 PM
They’ll find some metric to define how it is. That’s the Xbox way.

Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Raist on July 19, 2019, 04:31:42 PM
Xbone hardware has been going down YoY for so many years now, they must be selling negative numbers.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on July 21, 2019, 12:11:02 PM
All xbox gens combined sold less then PS2
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Raist on July 23, 2019, 04:08:47 PM
Quote from: riotous on July 23, 2019, 01:19:12 PM
I think the GamePass fire sale they did is a desperate attempt to respond to those terrible hardware numbers.

Pretty funny seeing Xbots claim MS "doesn't care about hardware sales" lol

To be fair, Spencer and friends have said that a few times :lol
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Raist on July 23, 2019, 08:21:45 PM
Quote from: riotous on July 23, 2019, 04:46:16 PM
Quote from: Raist on July 23, 2019, 04:08:47 PM
Quote from: riotous on July 23, 2019, 01:19:12 PM
I think the GamePass fire sale they did is a desperate attempt to respond to those terrible hardware numbers.

Pretty funny seeing Xbots claim MS "doesn't care about hardware sales" lol

To be fair, Spencer and friends have said that a few times :lol

No they haven’t.

“The business isn’t about console sales” is an entirely different statement than “we don’t care about hardware sales.”


Nice. You're almost at MS PR level of spin :lol
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: team filler on July 23, 2019, 09:55:11 PM
nintendo rules  8)
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Tasty on July 23, 2019, 11:30:01 PM
Quote from: filler on July 23, 2019, 09:55:11 PM
nintendo rules  8)

:miyamoto
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: team filler on July 24, 2019, 04:31:37 PM
 :rejoice
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Raist on July 24, 2019, 06:49:04 PM
Quote from: riotous on July 24, 2019, 04:28:28 PM
Oh so you are in idiot,


:rofl
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Nintex on July 27, 2019, 06:09:19 PM
That's weird. Fire Emblem is actually above the Marvel thing on the eShop  :pika
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Trent Dole on July 30, 2019, 03:46:18 AM
https://twitter.com/ZhugeEX/status/1156086524397727745
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Tasty on July 30, 2019, 08:35:52 AM
PS4 being as popular as the PS2 is just... weird to think about for me. I had so accepted that (traditional) console sales like that were pretty much over and that you'd need a standout feature like the Wii Remote to hit those sales again. Glad I was wrong and the industry seems healthy. :)
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Great Rumbler on July 30, 2019, 08:49:58 AM
It's because people realized that mobile games are and will always be garbage.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Nintex on July 30, 2019, 12:54:47 PM
- Economy crashes
- Japan stops making hit games
- Microsoft switches focus to P R O J E C T  N A T A L  :derp
- Nintendo coasts on Wii shovelware
- 3DS is launched at $249

Analysts: "Wow, traditional gaming is dead!"
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Great Rumbler on July 30, 2019, 04:50:37 PM
Quote from: riotous on July 30, 2019, 11:44:14 AM
Still pretty wild that the 360 outsold the Wii in the US. 

Do you have the specific numbers? I tried to find US totals for 360 but could only find up through late 2011.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Great Rumbler on July 30, 2019, 05:31:39 PM
Xbox360 sold about 85 million worldwide total, though I can't find any concrete US numbers later than 2011 [when it was about 25 million sold], while the Wii sold just under 50 million in the US. I could see it being really close between those two for US numbers, since that market was far and away the 360's strongest.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: benjipwns on July 31, 2019, 03:02:14 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EAs-b1hWwAAftBc?format=jpg&name=small)

this is actually a really odd graph in a lot of ways
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on July 31, 2019, 06:45:09 AM
Quote from: Great Rumbler on July 30, 2019, 08:49:58 AM
It's because people realized that mobile games are and will always be garbage.

People, including myself, got wowed at the download numbers but didn’t pay attention to the fact that people would only spend a few minutes playing, say “this sucks” and remove it.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Occam on July 31, 2019, 12:17:45 PM
I realize this is anecdotal, but I know several people who purchased multiple 360s because they got sick of sending it in, which makes me believe that 360's install base was almost certainly lower than 85 Million. Reminder that only the 5th revision (Jasper) finally solved the RRoD problem for good, and that was 3 years in, and that all previous versions had a failure rate of nearly 100% as time went on.

Is there anyone here who bought only one single 360?
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: nachobro on July 31, 2019, 01:58:01 PM
I had three of them. An OG, the one with HDMI, and then the small one (not the xbone clone looking one). Had RROD on the first which is why I got the HDMI model.

My 60gb PS3 still runs today though it's so goddamn loud it's almost unusable.  :lol
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on July 31, 2019, 03:45:35 PM
Had 3 360s too
2 PS3s
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Trent Dole on July 31, 2019, 04:08:36 PM
I had two 360s. OG model kept dying (which I think it ultimately was revealed to be a known continuous thing by MS, they could only tempy fix some of them?) and then a slim which has lived on. The OG model was given to my now former brother in law, and yeah it eventually started having problems for him. :doge
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: kingv on July 31, 2019, 07:18:10 PM
Quote from: Premium Lager on July 31, 2019, 03:45:35 PM
Had 3 360s too
2 PS3s

Now that I have more money and companies have gotten smart about how they do the refreshes, I also just tend to buy two consoles.

I ended up buying a pro and x1x. If they figure out a better upgrade to switch than just “new battery” I’ll probably end up getting one of those too..

Usually you can end up doing this for pretty cheap nowadays too if you wait for some trade in deal.

I think I traded in my original Bone and PS4 for pro versions for like a total of $250.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: nachobro on August 01, 2019, 10:25:28 AM
Trade in deals are why I have a X1X, heh. Managed to stack an Xbone trade in deal with another deal at Gamestop and got and X1X and RDR2 for $160 :lol
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Svejk on August 01, 2019, 11:17:49 AM
I had an OG RROD...  First and only console to ever shit out on me.... they "fixed" it, but the lights never worked the same...  Got laid off, sold that POS...  Never looked back at MS since.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: paprikastaude on August 01, 2019, 12:53:03 PM
Quote from: riotous on July 30, 2019, 11:44:14 AM
Still pretty wild that the 360 outsold the Wii in the US.

Wii support completely died out of nowhere after the 4th year in a 8 year generation for everyone else. Everyone thought that was because Nintendo were prepping that huge HD lineup :juicy
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Occam on August 01, 2019, 01:22:28 PM
Yeah, what was Nintendo thinking when they suddenly stopped making Wii games? Microsoft was just as bad, they did pretty much drop non-Kinect game support for 360 after they launched Kinect. And then, hilariously they launched Xbone bundled with Kinect 2 and didn't have a single Kinect game for the new system.
WTF.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Occam on August 01, 2019, 01:50:55 PM
Yep, if they had built in a mic they could have narrowed the price gap with PS4 considerably. Instead they bundled it with the new and more expensive Kinect 2 - for which they never made any software. Hahaha.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Joe Molotov on August 01, 2019, 01:52:11 PM
Waggle was shit, nobody wanted that garbage.

“Oh, but the casual gamers and grandmas in nursing homes are driving the market now, hardcore games don’t matter anymore. Traditional consoles are dead.”

They played Wii Sports and then threw that crap in the closet with their Furbys and beanie babies.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: team filler on August 01, 2019, 02:25:48 PM
 ::)
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Svejk on August 01, 2019, 03:20:09 PM
I still love playing Wii Sports Resort with my kids.  :)
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Occam on August 01, 2019, 04:14:33 PM
Motion control is absolutely needed for VR, but I don't need it slapped onto every single game like Nintendo did.
It worked pretty well for first person shooters.

Wii (U) is a pretty cool party system, it has many games that can be played by non-gamers.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Great Rumbler on August 01, 2019, 05:25:19 PM
First week sales in Japan:

01./00. [NSw] Fire Emblem: Three Houses - 143,130 / NEW

For reference:

03./00. [WII] Fire Emblem: Goddess of the Dawn - 75,359 / NEW

01./00. [3DS] Fire Emblem: Awakening - 242.600 / NEW

01./00. [3DS] Fire Emblem Fates: Black Kingdom / White Kingdom - 260.675 / NEW

01./00. [3DS] Fire Emblem Echoes: Shadows of Valentia - 135,195 / NEW
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Nintex on August 01, 2019, 06:37:36 PM
Fire Emblem is pretty much sold out in the Netherlands which has never happened with a Fire Emblem game before.
I managed to pick-up the first print CE of Echoes a year after its release.

Could we be entering a phase where Japan is sorta 'done' with Fire Emblem and it is actually more popular in the EU/US.  :dizzy
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: nachobro on August 01, 2019, 06:38:15 PM
Quote from: Occam on August 01, 2019, 01:22:28 PM
Yeah, what was Nintendo thinking when they suddenly stopped making Wii games? Microsoft was just as bad, they did pretty much drop non-Kinect game support for 360 after they launched Kinect. And then, hilariously they launched Xbone bundled with Kinect 2 and didn't have a single Kinect game for the new system.
WTF.

Just Dance and Xbox Fitness had it but that's about it. I don't think the first first-party kinect game (not counting Xbox Fitness as a game) came out til like the middle of the next year. :lol
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: bluemax on August 01, 2019, 11:36:16 PM
I haven't touched my Wii in years and I think Mario Galaxy might be one of the only games I ever get the urge to play. Then I remember the waggle and nope out.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: benjipwns on August 02, 2019, 12:15:57 AM
My Wii's bluetooth module died, which prevents it from booting even in GameCube mode, and I couldn't fix it even with a replacement. So I bought a bluetooth module for my PC and a wireless sensor bar (for a combined total of $7) so I can just play via Dolphin. :doge

Nintendo shutting down the internet play had killed the need for it anyway, I randomly played Mario Kart online every three months or so. Otherwise I really only would play Order Up! rather than the "actual" games I had never finished. :doge :doge
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Occam on August 02, 2019, 12:57:52 AM
There are still several Wii games I've been meaning to finish, like Wario Land Shake It. I'm pretty sure there's a homebrew patch allowing you to map the shaking to a button.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Nintex on August 02, 2019, 12:21:25 PM
Quote from: bluemax on August 01, 2019, 11:36:16 PM
I haven't touched my Wii in years
:girlaff
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Tasty on August 02, 2019, 01:53:20 PM
Quote from: Nintex on August 02, 2019, 12:21:25 PM
Quote from: bluemax on August 01, 2019, 11:36:16 PM
I haven't touched my Wii in years
:girlaff

He'd have to find it first. :rodney
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: tiesto on August 02, 2019, 03:06:33 PM
I think once it starts getting colder out and I break into my backlog I'll finally start Opoona.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Tasty on August 02, 2019, 03:18:19 PM
Quote
poon

:beavis
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Tripon on August 27, 2019, 10:45:29 PM
https://www.resetera.com/threads/media-create-sales-week-33-2019-aug-12-aug-18.136276/post-23796584

Quote
Obon holidays

Week 32+33, 2018
NSW - 104.085
PS4 - 46.565

Week 32+33, 2019
NSW - 92.677
PS4 - 36.393
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: team filler on August 27, 2019, 11:06:24 PM
 :D
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on August 28, 2019, 08:30:56 AM
Just a few more decades and switch will catch up with ps4 king of consoles
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Tasty on August 28, 2019, 09:46:00 AM
Quote from: Premium Lager on August 28, 2019, 08:30:56 AM
Just a few more decades and switch will catch up with ps4 king of consoles

Any record PS4 breaks, Switch can break it better~ (https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2018-12-18-nintendo-switch-the-fastest-selling-us-console-this-generation)

Switch can do anything better than you~ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2fW5Z2z6pXM)
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on August 29, 2019, 07:57:38 AM
Im sorry its not a track meet its a marathon

spoiler (click to show/hide)
fuck the cementary a distinguished black fellow gets buried on -ice cube
[close]

If Switch hardware with TV output outsells PS4 lifetime ill buy you a game.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Fifstar on August 29, 2019, 08:20:24 AM
Quote from: Premium Lager on August 29, 2019, 07:57:38 AM
If Switch hardware with TV output outsells PS4 lifetime ill buy you a game.

 :hitler

Come over to the light side, you're almost there anyways  :-[
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: kingv on August 29, 2019, 09:00:33 AM
Switch already outsold PS4 in Japan.

As an otaku interested in experiencing the superior Japanese culture,that’s all that matters.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Potato on August 29, 2019, 09:17:49 PM
Quote from: Premium Lager on August 29, 2019, 07:57:38 AM
Im sorry its not a track meet its a marathon

spoiler (click to show/hide)
fuck the cementary a distinguished black fellow gets buried on -ice cube
[close]

If Switch hardware with TV output outsells PS4 lifetime ill buy you a game.


Why the need to qualify? Switch hardware is Switch hardware regardless of whether it has TV out or not.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: thisismyusername on August 29, 2019, 09:20:08 PM
Quote from: Potato on August 29, 2019, 09:17:49 PM
Quote from: Premium Lager on August 29, 2019, 07:57:38 AM
Im sorry its not a track meet its a marathon

spoiler (click to show/hide)
fuck the cementary a distinguished black fellow gets buried on -ice cube
[close]

If Switch hardware with TV output outsells PS4 lifetime ill buy you a game.


Why the need to qualify? Switch hardware is Switch hardware regardless of whether it has TV out or not.

Because he's a Sony Baloney Pony, he feels threatened.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: team filler on August 29, 2019, 09:44:14 PM
 :miyamoto
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: thisismyusername on August 29, 2019, 09:55:06 PM
:trumps Us Master Racers have to step in to remind you console plebs who really wins in the end, though, as moderators.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Joe Molotov on August 30, 2019, 01:00:03 PM
Pretty good as long as Epic keeps giving away free games. :money
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Trent Dole on August 30, 2019, 02:52:26 PM
That Fortnite money ain't gonna roll in forever.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: thisismyusername on September 05, 2019, 11:30:03 AM
Quote from: Trent Dole on August 30, 2019, 02:52:26 PM
That Fortnite money ain't gonna roll in forever.

Just like Oil, they'll have to go to to fracking.

(https://i.imgur.com/I9lI93f.jpg)

:trolledsoftly
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: HardcoreRetro on September 11, 2019, 06:48:47 AM
Ain't L.A. Noire on the thing?
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Fifstar on September 11, 2019, 08:41:24 AM
It also has 8th gen games, AAA games, EA games, streaming media if you count youtube and it's not like MS or Sony have free online either.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Great Rumbler on September 11, 2019, 08:51:19 AM
IT ONLY DOES FUD
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Tasty on September 11, 2019, 09:01:13 AM
Quote from: thisismyusername on September 05, 2019, 11:30:03 AM
Quote from: Trent Dole on August 30, 2019, 02:52:26 PM
That Fortnite money ain't gonna roll in forever.

Just like Oil, they'll have to go to to fracking.

(https://i.imgur.com/I9lI93f.jpg)

:trolledsoftly

drinky is rolling in his grave at how low-effort modern Nintendo trolling has become.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: kingv on September 11, 2019, 09:07:18 AM
2017: switch is all right, but it’s too weak. It’ll never run real games like Doom or the Witcher 3.

2019: those games are old anyway

2020: Nintendo is just a kiddy company. Switch is too kiddy. It has blue and red joycons like a toy.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Rahxephon91 on September 11, 2019, 12:17:34 PM
Well it dosen't run those games well.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Himu on September 11, 2019, 12:24:34 PM
Hahahahaha :sabu
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Himu on September 11, 2019, 12:33:43 PM
Quote from: Premium Lager on August 29, 2019, 07:57:38 AM
Im sorry its not a track meet its a marathon

spoiler (click to show/hide)
fuck the cementary a distinguished black fellow gets buried on -ice cube
[close]

If Switch hardware with TV output outsells PS4 lifetime ill buy you a game.

Stop making bets.

You said switch wouldn’t sell 40m units (less than 3ds Ltd at the time) and you bet me you’d have an avatar saying you like big black dick.

No idea what Switch lifetime is now but it will be easy for it to get to 40 million.

Stop. Just stop!!
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Great Rumbler on September 11, 2019, 01:41:52 PM
Quote from: Cindi Mayweather on September 11, 2019, 12:33:43 PM
No idea what Switch lifetime is now but it will be easy for it to get to 40 million.

36.87 million, as of the end of June.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Himu on September 11, 2019, 02:00:10 PM
Quote from: Great Rumbler on September 11, 2019, 01:41:52 PM
Quote from: Cindi Mayweather on September 11, 2019, 12:33:43 PM
No idea what Switch lifetime is now but it will be easy for it to get to 40 million.

36.87 million, as of the end of June.

AHAHAHAHA

Someone find that bet in this or switch thread
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Joe Molotov on September 11, 2019, 02:37:45 PM
http://www.thebore.com/forum/index.php?topic=44542.msg2222096#msg2222096
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: team filler on September 11, 2019, 07:10:33 PM
 :drool
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Tripon on September 25, 2019, 12:09:33 AM
https://twitter.com/nintendolife/status/1176709204637290496
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Tripon on September 25, 2019, 10:31:08 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/6pcCSMD.png)

https://www.resetera.com/threads/media-create-sales-week-38-2019-sep-16-sep-22.143085/
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: kingv on September 25, 2019, 11:41:43 PM
Whoa switch has outsold PS4 3:1 in Japan this year? That’s more than I thought.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: team filler on September 26, 2019, 02:14:38 AM
 :D
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Potato on September 26, 2019, 07:10:35 PM
Most interesting part of the chart is that the full fat Switch didn't suffer a drop in numbers.

I can't decide if it shows that they hadn't managed to successfully cater to the portable only crowd with the full fat version or that now we are seeing the multiple Switches per household effect...
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: HardcoreRetro on September 28, 2019, 06:33:58 PM
What is Fishing Spirit and why is it not released over here?
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: nachobro on October 02, 2019, 01:27:22 PM
Arcade fishing game that got ported to Switch. It looks cool and should totally come here

https://youtu.be/Y8FJh57pGYc

Fishing Star World Tour is on Switch and supposedly quite good if you're looking for a fishing game
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Joe Molotov on October 02, 2019, 01:40:26 PM
[NSW] Dragon Quest XI S: Echoes of an Elusive Age – Definitive Edition (Limited Edition Included) (Square Enix, 09/27/19) – 303,204 (New)
[PS4] Code Vein (Bandai Namco, 09/27/19) – 60,843 (New)
[PS4] Atelier Ryza: Ever Darkness & the Secret Hideout (Koei Tecmo, 09/26/19) – 53,428 (New)
[NSW] The Legend of Zelda: Link’s Awakening (Nintendo, 09/20/19) – 45,775 (187,150)
[PS4] Ys IX: Monstrum Nox (Falcom, 09/26/19) – 45,378 (New)
[PS4] FIFA 20 (Electronic Arts, 09/27/19) – 43,751 (New)
[PS4] World of War Z (H2 Interactive, 09/26/19) – 27,872 (New)
[PS4] Monster Hunter World: Iceborne Master Edition (Capcom, 09/06/19) – 26,324 (346,239)
[NSW] Atelier Ryza: Ever Darkness & the Secret Hideout (Koei Tecmo, 09/26/19) – 25,538 (New)
[NSW] Super Mario Maker 2 (Nintendo, 06/28/19) – 14,731 (644,445)

Switch – 115,732 (9,149,477)
Switch Lite – 80,757 (258,693)
PlayStation 4 – 15,034 (7,134,310)
PlayStation 4 Pro – 9,624 (1,289,692)
New 2DS LL (including 2DS) – 2,181 (1,665,281)
New 3DS LL – 203 (5,884,406)
Xbox One X – 83 (16,990)
Xbox One S – 75 (91,164)
PS Vita – 39 (5,862,595)

Code Vein and Ys IX outsold by RZA (combined). Japan demands more thighs. :uguu
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: bork on October 24, 2019, 12:29:57 PM
Apparently Ring Fit Adventure was the number one-selling game in Japan last week.
(https://cdn.arstechnica.net/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/ringfit-5-640x427.jpg)
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: HardcoreRetro on October 24, 2019, 12:44:29 PM
Quote from: nachobro on October 02, 2019, 01:27:22 PM
Fishing Star World Tour is on Switch and supposedly quite good if you're looking for a fishing game

I already got that. Was like 15 euros in the summer sale. Can't pass up a good arcade fishing game.

Still have fond memories of the PS1 Fisherman's Bait games.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1d5FX3Y7ZKg

Blisters on hands from reeling in the fish.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on October 30, 2019, 02:30:58 PM
PS4 sales overtake Wii and PS1
Now the second best-selling home console of all time.

https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2019-10-30-ps4-overtakes-wii-and-ps1-to-become-second-best-selling-home-console-of-all-time

 :umad
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: team filler on October 30, 2019, 02:38:47 PM
 ::)
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Rufus on October 30, 2019, 02:40:01 PM
I knew you would jump on this. :lol
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: bork on October 31, 2019, 07:43:39 AM
https://twitter.com/Stealth40k/status/1189845470614556673
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on October 31, 2019, 07:56:40 AM
Impressive that Switch has already sold twice as much as Xbox One.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: bork on October 31, 2019, 08:24:23 AM
Quote from: Premium Lager on October 31, 2019, 07:56:40 AM
Impressive that Switch has already sold twice as much as Xbox One.

Seems to be on par with Xbox One, not selling twice as many.

https://www.tweaktown.com/news/64602/xbox-one-sales-hit-41-million/index.html
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Great Rumbler on October 31, 2019, 08:46:00 AM
Switch should be pretty close to passing the SNES.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on October 31, 2019, 01:18:42 PM
Would love to see sales numbers across regions. Bet US is responsible for like 75% of xbox sales.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on October 31, 2019, 08:18:17 PM
Quote from: Premium Lager on October 31, 2019, 01:18:42 PM
Would love to see sales numbers across regions. Bet US is responsible for like 75% of xbox sales.

Who cares? The US is the only country that matters anyway.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on November 01, 2019, 01:12:39 AM
MS cares because

PS4 sales overtake Wii and PS1
Now the second best-selling home console of all time.

https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2019-10-30-ps4-overtakes-wii-and-ps1-to-become-second-best-selling-home-console-of-all-time

 :umad
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Trent Dole on November 01, 2019, 10:55:58 AM
Neither of those are MS consoles and thus they have no reason to care, and neither do you unless you own stock in any of these companies, please grow up.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on November 01, 2019, 10:57:34 AM
:umad
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Trent Dole on November 01, 2019, 11:23:33 AM
https://twitter.com/dril/status/972534838057230336
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on November 01, 2019, 12:52:51 PM
:umad
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Joe Molotov on November 20, 2019, 12:28:23 PM
Software Sales (followed by lifetime sales)

[NSW] Pokemon Sword / Shield (The Pokemon Company, 11/15/19) – 1,364,544 (New)
[PS4] Death Stranding (Limited Editions Included) (SIE, 11/08/19) – 37,382 (223,291)
[NSW] Luigi’s Mansion 3 (Nintendo, 10/31/19) – 29,718 (235,047)
[NSW] Ring Fit Adventure (Nintendo, 10/18/19) – 28,015 (263,940)
[PS4] Star Wars Jedi: Fallen Order (Deluxe Edition Included) (Electronic Arts, 11/15/19) – 26,761 (New)
[PS4] Call of Duty: Modern Warfare (SIE, 10/25/19) – 9,411 (181,165)
[NSW] Mario & Sonic at the Tokyo 2020 Olympic Games (Sega, 11/01/19) – 9,042 (42,756)
[PS4] Need for Speed: Heat (Electronic Arts, 11/08/19) – 7,638 (23,944)
[NSW] Minecraft: Nintendo Switch Edition (Bundle Version Included) (Microsoft, 06/21/18) – 7,637 (1,003,160)
[PS4] Persona 5 Royal (Limited Edition Included) (Atlus, 10/31/19) – 7,195 (228,756)

Hardware Sales (followed by lifetime sales)

Switch – 97,565 (550,531)
Switch Lite – 82,751 (9,515,266)
PlayStation 4 – 4,393 (7,171,340)
PlayStation 4 Pro – 3,701 (1,319,925)
New 2DS LL (including 2DS) – 1,188 (1,674,022)
New 3DS LL – 74 (5,885,066)
Xbox One S – 41 (91,462)
Xbox One X – 39 (17,338)
PS Vita – 20 (5,862,786)

Sword & Shield had the best first week for a Switch game, although about 500k+ under Sun & Moon and X & Y opening weeks.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Tasty on November 20, 2019, 12:51:20 PM
3DS Japan LTD on XY's release: 13.223.532 (https://www.neogaf.com/threads/media-create-sales-week-41-2013-oct-07-oct-13.698176/)

Switch Japan LTD last week: 9.885.679 (https://www.resetera.com/threads/media-create-sales-week-45-2019-nov-04-nov-10.152808/)

S&S selling less is probably because the Switch doesn't have as large an install base yet.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: bork on November 20, 2019, 12:55:30 PM
Xbox actually not dead last  :o

Quote
Switch – 97,565 (550,531)
Switch Lite – 82,751 (9,515,266)

Shouldn't those lifetime sales numbers be reversed?  :thinking
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Great Rumbler on November 20, 2019, 01:10:26 PM
Quote from: https://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2019-11-19-nintendo-switch-uk-sales-spike-30-percent-as-pok-mon-sword-and-shield-sets-record
It's been a good week for Nintendo, which had six games in the UK Physical Top Ten. Pokémon Sword and Shield accounted for three of those positions, and combined together represent the biggest Nintendo Switch launch to date (beating the record held by last year's Super Smash Bros Ultimate).

It's actually the third biggest Nintendo launch in UK history, behind Wii Fit in second place and Pokémon Sun and Moon at No.1.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: team filler on November 20, 2019, 01:13:08 PM
 :D
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Tripon on November 21, 2019, 12:23:01 AM
https://twitter.com/CrocOclock/status/1197015320046817280
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: OnlyRegret on November 21, 2019, 01:45:20 AM
so much for pokemongate
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Potato on November 21, 2019, 02:00:10 AM
I wouldn't call it a great debut for Pokemon though. I would have expected a bigger impact for the fact that it's a new gen on a new system. Installed base shouldn't be that relevant unless there were switch shortages.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Fifstar on November 21, 2019, 07:17:11 AM
Quote from: Potato on November 21, 2019, 02:00:10 AM
I wouldn't call it a great debut for Pokemon though. I would have expected a bigger impact for the fact that it's a new gen on a new system. Installed base shouldn't be that relevant unless there were switch shortages.

Apparently it sold 2 million in the first week. That's pretty great considering the price increase.

Install base is a different topic. Personally I feel the OG switch has less kids in it's user base which would mean that the game has a high sales potential this holidays in combination with the cheap Switch lite.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Great Rumbler on November 21, 2019, 08:49:06 AM
It's down a bit from the previous mainline entries [last three were 2.6, 2.0, and 1.9], but some of that difference could be made up for with the digital versions.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Fifstar on November 21, 2019, 09:53:04 AM
Quote from: Great Rumbler on November 21, 2019, 08:49:06 AM
It's down a bit from the previous mainline entries [last three were 2.6, 2.0, and 1.9], but some of that difference could be made up for with the digital versions.
???

It sold 2 million (with digital) so it's only down Vs Sun Moon. Which was released during the peak of Pokémon Go
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Great Rumbler on November 21, 2019, 10:01:07 AM
Anyway, here's some global numbers:

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The Pokémon Company announced today that Pokémon Sword and Shield has sold over six million units globally in its first week. That includes both digital and physical sales since the game’s release date on November 15.

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BusinessWire also reports that two million copies were sold in the first two days in the US, making it the highest-grossing launch in the US for any Pokémon game. That could put it on track to sell four million copies faster than Pokémon Sun and Moon, which previously set the record for a Nintendo game sales in the United States.

For an additional comparison, the 2013's Pokémon X and Y sold four million units across the globe in its first week, while last generation's Pokémon Sun and Moon reportedly sold 7.2 million in its first week according to Eurogamer.

https://www.ign.com/articles/2019/11/21/pokemon-sword-and-shield-is-now-the-fastest-selling-switch-game
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on November 21, 2019, 10:24:06 AM
Game Freak vindicated
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Chooky on November 21, 2019, 11:51:08 AM
another screeching internet mob proven irrelevant
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Tasty on November 21, 2019, 12:15:27 PM
Celebrate a global corporation's right to make lower quality products brehs :wow
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: kingv on November 21, 2019, 02:40:06 PM
Isn’t 6 million like 20% of the switch install base?
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Raist on November 21, 2019, 03:05:04 PM
Bit less, isn't it around 40M?

In any case, Nintendo titles have insane attach rates, while 3rd party stuff sells like shite, more news at 11.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: team filler on November 21, 2019, 03:05:59 PM
3rd party shite sellls like shite!  ::)
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Rahxephon91 on November 21, 2019, 05:30:41 PM
Quote from: Tasty Meat on November 21, 2019, 12:15:27 PM
Celebrate a global corporation's right to make lower quality products brehs :wow
I mean people have been buying Nintendo systems for awhile......
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Trent Dole on November 21, 2019, 06:06:58 PM
Quote from: Rahxephon91 on November 21, 2019, 05:30:41 PM
Quote from: Tasty Meat on November 21, 2019, 12:15:27 PM
Celebrate a global corporation's right to make lower quality products brehs :wow
I mean people have been buying Nintendo systems for awhile......
Hey man most of us had enough sense to not buy a weeooo.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Joe Molotov on December 04, 2019, 10:36:56 AM
Quote
11/25/19 – 12/01/19 Software Sales (followed by lifetime sales)

[NSW] Pokemon Sword / Shield (The Pokemon Company, 11/15/19) – 275,959 (2,023,043)
[PS4] SD Gundam G Generation Cross Rays (Limited Edition Included) (Bandai Namco, 11/28/19) – 64,538 (New)
[NSW] SD Gundam G Generation Cross Rays (Limited Edition Included) (Bandai Namco, 11/28/19) – 45,282 (New)
[PS4] 13 Sentinels: Aegis Rim (Limited Edition Included) (Atlus, 11/28/19) – 34,608 (New)
[NSW] Luigi’s Mansion 3 (Nintendo, 10/31/19) – 26,256 (285,175)
[NSW] Ring Fit Adventure (Nintendo, 10/18/19) – 22,302 (312,383)
[NSW] Minecraft: Nintendo Switch Edition (Bundle Version Included) (Microsoft, 06/21/18) – 11,084 (1,022,756)
[NSW] Mario & Sonic at the Tokyo 2020 Olympic Games (Sega, 11/01/19) – 10,439 (62,021)
[NSW] Mario Kart 8 Deluxe (Nintendo, 04/28/17) – 9,834 (2,543,292)
[NSW] Super Smash Bros. Ultimate (Nintendo, 12/07/18) – 9,789 (3,348,488)

Hardware Sales (followed by lifetime sales)

Switch – 111,621 (9,729,181)
Switch Lite – 75,142 (703,371)
PlayStation 4 – 5,045 (7,180,607)
PlayStation 4 Pro – 3,572 (1,326,357)
New 2DS LL (including 2DS) – 1,486 (1,676,500)
Xbox One S – 518 (92,041)
Xbox One X – 373 (17,760)
New 3DS LL – 94 (5,885,241)
PS Vita – 26 (5,862,835)

Switch + Pokeman just facerolling into the holidays.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Joe Molotov on December 04, 2019, 02:46:44 PM
Meanwhile in America:

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Switch and Switch Lite systems sold a combined total of more than 830,000 units in the United States from November 24 to 30, according to Nintendo data, ranking as the single best week of U.S. sales in Switch history, Nintendo announced.

Cyber Monday broke records as well, becoming the best one yet for Switch.

Nintendo also announced several updated Switch game lifetime sales numbers for the Americas, including:

Pokemon Sword / Pokemon Shield – three million units
Mario Kart 8 Deluxe – 8.5 million units
Super Smash Bros. Ultimate – eight million units
Super Mario Odyssey – 6.5 million units
New Super Mario Bros. U Deluxe – 1.5 million units

Total sales of Switch hardware in the Americas have surpassed 17.5 million units.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: team filler on December 04, 2019, 03:04:14 PM
 :D :D
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Great Rumbler on December 04, 2019, 04:27:05 PM
Pokemon S/S is probably at least 8 million copies sold by now [including 2-3 million for Europe and digital sales in Japan].
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Tasty on December 04, 2019, 04:47:09 PM
S&S sales are insane, I was expecting typical mainline numbers and even I'm mildly surprised.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: nachobro on December 04, 2019, 04:50:40 PM
dexit boycott :lol
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Tasty on December 04, 2019, 04:57:50 PM
Where the fuck is Pkmn Home :rage
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Joe Molotov on January 08, 2020, 11:01:19 AM
Switch is just the 4DS in Japan. Pokemon and Brain Training dominating the market.

Famitsu Sales: 12/23/19 – 12/29/19
Software Sales (followed by lifetime sales)

[NSW] Pokemon Sword / Shield (The Pokemon Company, 11/15/19) – 243,476 (2,988,134)
[NSW] Luigi’s Mansion 3 (Nintendo, 10/31/19) – 59,349 (505,998)
[NSW] Ring Fit Adventure (Nintendo, 10/18/19) – 52,521 (495,639)
[NSW] Minecraft: Nintendo Switch Edition (Bundle Version Included) (Microsoft, 06/21/18) – 40,905 (1,145,939)
[NSW] Mario Kart 8 Deluxe (Nintendo, 04/28/17) – 40,883 (2,659,009)
[NSW] Mario & Sonic at the Tokyo 2020 Olympic Games (Sega, 11/01/19) – 40,866 (195,128)
[NSW] Super Smash Bros. Ultimate (Nintendo, 12/07/18) – 35,385 (3,453,052)
[NSW] Dr. Kawashima’s Brain Training for Nintendo Switch (Nintendo, 12/27/19) – 34,696 (New)
[NSW] Super Mario Party (Nintendo, 10/05/18) – 34,649 (1,263,710)
[NSW] Tsuri Spirits Nintendo Switch Version (Bandai Namco, 07/25/19) – 33,623 (336,995)

Hardware Sales (followed by lifetime sales)

Switch – 141,227 (10,338,048)
Switch Lite – 93,041 (1,045,383)
PlayStation 4 – 59,123 (7,353,273)
PlayStation 4 Pro – 22,226 (1,394,970)
New 2DS LL (including 2DS) – 2,875 (1,690,122)
New 3DS LL – 170 (5,885,915)
Xbox One X – 195 (18,642)
Xbox One S – 102 (92,604)
PS Vita – 53 (5,863,016)
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Ghoul on January 08, 2020, 11:04:11 AM
Quote from: Tasty Meat on December 04, 2019, 04:57:50 PM
Where the fuck is Pkmn Home :rage

Coming in March, but because dexit, if you have completed the dex you've got all the possible ones... Unless they release more mons when home comes out, some sprites are already in game
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Tripon on January 30, 2020, 11:36:55 PM
https://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/pdf/2020/200131_2e.pdf

Switch at 48 million
Ring Fit 1.7 million
Luigi Mansion 3 4 million
Pokemon Sword & Shield 12.28 million
Nintendo Switch Online subs 15 million
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Fifstar on January 31, 2020, 04:30:35 AM
That's sold to customers by the way.

Mama Nintendo is beastin  :heart :D
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Potato on February 13, 2020, 07:14:12 AM
Switch lite seems to not be cannibalising sales of the full fat switch in Japan. Rather it's just added to the baseline. I wonder if that's the same everywhere else?
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Fifstar on February 13, 2020, 02:22:12 PM
Quote from: Potato on February 13, 2020, 07:14:12 AM
Switch lite seems to not be cannibalising sales of the full fat switch in Japan. Rather it's just added to the baseline. I wonder if that's the same everywhere else?

I don't know, but the lite is a significant downgrade. It's positioned as a device for kids or as a secondary device. It's reasonable that it's not eating all that much into the target group that is interested in the full Switch experience which made up most of their sales until now.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: MMaRsu on February 13, 2020, 03:50:38 PM
Pokemon SS

spoiler (click to show/hide)
(https://cdn.drawception.com/images/panels/2016/11-15/fnDAFrFBrf-2.png)
[close]

 :yuck
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: team filler on February 14, 2020, 01:07:34 AM
it's 12.28 million not 14.88 million  :doge
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Tasty on March 25, 2020, 12:10:55 PM
https://www.famitsu.com/news/202003/25195316.html

Three day physical sales:

Smash: 1.23 million :larry

Poke SwSh: 1.36 million  :nope



...some game featuring cute animals: 1.88 million  :dsp

pandemic what? :miyamoto
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Potato on March 25, 2020, 04:14:38 PM
Apparently Switch is sold out everywhere and it's listed well above rrp with third party sellers on Amazon.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Tripon on March 26, 2020, 12:02:27 AM
https://twitter.com/anarchyKaos666/status/1242988738986168320
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: team filler on March 26, 2020, 03:35:19 AM
 :miyamoto :pimp :D
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Svejk on March 26, 2020, 07:50:19 AM
Saw that Nintendo's shop was selling refurbed, first gen Switches.  Page went down for maintenance and hasn't come back.  I'd be willing to go that route to save $50.... but I guess that's not happening now.  :-\
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on April 03, 2020, 01:19:38 PM
Man get the 1.1, double game time
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Tasty on April 07, 2020, 10:58:08 AM
https://animalcrossingworld.com/2020/04/animal-crossing-new-horizons-sells-2-68-million-physical-japanese-copies-in-first-10-days/

10-day update: 2.68 million physical copies sold in Japan
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Positive Touch on April 07, 2020, 11:35:58 AM
well it's not nintendogs level of sales, but that's still pretty good
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Tasty on April 07, 2020, 02:09:05 PM
Quote from: Positive Touch on April 07, 2020, 11:35:58 AM
well it's not nintendogs level of sales, but that's still pretty good

First week sales for Nintendo Dogs in Japan was 168,000. That game was more legs than launch, sales-wise.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Tasty on April 08, 2020, 09:43:08 AM
Quote from: Tasty Meat on April 07, 2020, 10:58:08 AM
https://animalcrossingworld.com/2020/04/animal-crossing-new-horizons-sells-2-68-million-physical-japanese-copies-in-first-10-days/

10-day update: 2.68 million physical copies sold in Japan

Update: ACNH has sold 3 million physical copies in Japan in its first three weeks, according to Media Create. (https://www.resetera.com/threads/media-create-sales-week-14-2020-mar-30-apr-05.180971/)

Switch hardware has sold 830,000 additional units in the same timeframe.

Speculation that it's the best opening for a Switch game in Japan.

Edit-

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> 400K 3rd weeks

Famitsu Sales: Week 49, 1999 (Nov 29 - Dec 05)
01./01. [GMB] Pokemon Gold / Silver |GameBoy/GameBoy Color/Super GameBoy| <RPG> (Nintendo) {1999.11.21} (¥3.800) - 453.500 / 2.317.549 (+3%)

Famitsu Sales: Week 51, 2009 (Dec 14 - Dec 20)
02./01. [WII] New Super Mario Bros. Wii <ACT> (Nintendo) {2009.12.03} (¥5.524) - 570.512 / 1.972.070 (+23%)

Famitsu Sales: Week 51, 2010 (Dec 13 - Dec 19)
01./01. [PSP] Monster Hunter Freedom 3 # <ACT> (Capcom) {2010.12.01} (¥5.524) - 434.837 / 3.095.502 (-15%)

Famitsu Sales: Week 51, 2018 (Dec 17 - Dec 23)
01./01. [NSW] Super Smash Bros. Ultimate # <FTG> (Nintendo) {2018.12.07} (¥7.200) - 424.127 / 2.106.678 <80-100%> (-5%)

Famitsu Sales: Week 14, 2020 (Mar 30 - Apr 05)
01./01. [NSW] Animal Crossing: New Horizons # <ETC> (Nintendo) {2020.03.20} (¥5.980) - 423.367 / 3.031.784 (-42%)
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Fifstar on April 08, 2020, 05:03:33 PM
this will end up as one off the all time highest selling games in japan, second maybe only to red/blue.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Yeti on April 09, 2020, 12:20:31 AM
Hopefully that means they keep supporting it.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: tiesto on April 09, 2020, 12:54:34 AM
I knew AC was popular but had no idea how huge it was. People who I never even heard once mention games are all clamoring for a Switch, and complaining how they're now super rare. Last time I heard about this craziness about a game from non-gamer people was... Wii Sports and Wii Fit.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Potato on April 09, 2020, 04:19:32 AM
Has any game in history ever dropped at a more opportune time than animal crossing New Horizons?
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Nintex on April 09, 2020, 06:49:47 AM
Quote from: Potato on April 09, 2020, 04:19:32 AM
Has any game in history ever dropped at a more opportune time than animal crossing New Horizons?

Animal Crossing (2001 Video Game)  :thinking
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Tasty on April 09, 2020, 07:48:13 AM
2002 in America.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Tasty on April 09, 2020, 10:49:59 AM
https://www.polygon.com/2020/4/8/21214052/nintendo-switch-japan-stock-shortage-where-to-buy

No more Switches for Japan right now. :(
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Beezy on April 09, 2020, 10:53:41 AM
They've been sold out everywhere in the states too, unless you're fine with the lite version.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Fifstar on April 17, 2020, 03:23:41 AM
Quote from: Tasty Meat on April 09, 2020, 10:49:59 AM
https://www.polygon.com/2020/4/8/21214052/nintendo-switch-japan-stock-shortage-where-to-buy

No more Switches for Japan right now. :(

Switch sales dropped like a stone last week :(
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Ghoul on April 17, 2020, 06:32:33 AM
can't sell if you don't have. The lite is fine, but since getting my AC one it's really cool to be able to hook upto a TV
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Fifstar on April 17, 2020, 02:21:44 PM
Really? AC is actually one of those "intimate" and cozy games I prefer playing handheld.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Fifstar on April 21, 2020, 10:29:10 AM
Switch apparently above 1 Million in march npd, AC is shattering all previous franchise records  :mynicca
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Tasty on April 21, 2020, 10:31:11 AM
NPD does include some limited forms of digital I think so we might get a clearer picture at overall sales in US than Japan. :ohhh

Edit- NOPE lol

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Animal Crossing: New Horizons was the best-selling game of March 2020, despite the lack of digital tracking for Nintendo published software. Animal Crossing: New Horizons instantly becomes the 2nd best-selling game of 2020.

Still :clap
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Tasty on April 21, 2020, 10:33:49 AM
Quote
Animal Crossing: New Horizons achieved the 3rd highest launch month physical dollar and unit sales of any Nintendo published game in tracked history. Only Super Smash Bros. Ultimate (Dec 2018) and Super Smash Bros. Brawl (Mar 2008) sold more in the launch month.

Nintendo's two biggest US franchises:

Smash



...and Animal Crossing :lol
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Tasty on April 21, 2020, 10:36:34 AM
Each fucking piece of that PR is more fucking insane than the last.

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Launch month dollar sales of Animal Crossing: New Horizons have exceeded the lifetime sales of all other Animal Crossing franchise games, making Animal Crossing: New Horizons the best-selling game in franchise history.

Edit- Read wrong but still :dizzy
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: kingv on May 01, 2020, 10:12:09 AM
Quote from: Beezy on April 09, 2020, 10:53:41 AM
They've been sold out everywhere in the states too, unless you're fine with the lite version.

Yeah I’ve been seeing even used ones go for like $500 lately.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Tasty on May 03, 2020, 01:00:09 AM
https://twitter.com/Stealth40k/status/1255856051209080832

That bit about it being the best-selling console game in 10 years is ridic. Off the back of physical sales only.

RIDIC
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Tasty on May 03, 2020, 01:00:56 AM
Nintendo filling their warchest and being safe for another decade+ :heart
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: team filler on May 03, 2020, 01:11:48 AM
 :D
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Nintex on May 03, 2020, 06:29:23 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QRMBKd-4OIg



Noooo you can't have the best selling game when we have ray tracing, space marines,
torture porn and a massive online infrastructure

Hahaha Nintendo 64 models go BRRRRRRRRRRRR
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Trent Dole on May 04, 2020, 05:42:08 PM
Quote from: Tasty Meat on May 03, 2020, 01:00:09 AM
https://twitter.com/Stealth40k/status/1255856051209080832

That bit about it being the best-selling console game in 10 years is ridic. Off the back of physical sales only.

RIDIC
Oh hey I have an anecdote about digital AC sales being massive that I'm not sure if I've shared here or not. A little bit ago I went and looked through amazon's top switch games and AC digital was #1 with physical at #3. People love them some animal island sim.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Great Rumbler on May 04, 2020, 06:38:25 PM
It's estimated that 5 million digital copies of Animal Crossing were sold just in March:

https://www.superdataresearch.com/blog/worldwide-digital-games-market/
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Tasty on May 04, 2020, 07:03:00 PM
That 5 mil number is underselling it a little.

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Animal Crossing: New Horizons sold more digital units in a single month (5.0M) than any console game in history. The Nintendo-published title broke the console record for monthly digital game sales previously held by Call of Duty: Black Ops IIII. Animal Crossing: New Horizons also roughly matched the first-month digital sales of Super Smash Bros. Ultimate and Pokémon Sword and Shield put together. The game’s combination of social features and a relaxing setting likely appealed to individuals stuck at home. Closures of brick and mortar stores also meant that a higher share of consumers purchased the game digitally compared to past Switch titles.

(emphasis added)
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Nintex on May 04, 2020, 07:15:36 PM
Won't be long before the Animal Crossing economy is bigger than the world economy. I imagine that its digital market place already has a higher market value than a number of countries  :doge
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Tasty on May 04, 2020, 07:16:48 PM
Since Nintendo and us fanboys are taking a victory lap anyways, I just wanna say... people compare Disney and Nintendo a lot, but the fact that Nintendo is rising to heavens right now and Disney is sinking to hell shows IMO just how much more valuable to society Nintendo is.

Haters owned into the stratosphere :miyamoto
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Tasty on May 04, 2020, 07:20:40 PM
Quote from: Nintex on May 04, 2020, 07:15:36 PM
Won't be long before the Animal Crossing economy is bigger than the world economy. I imagine that its digital market place already has a higher market value than a number of countries  :doge

You might not be wrong about that... (https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_nkw=animal+crossing+new+horizons&_sacat=0&rt=nc&_udhi=45)
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Great Rumbler on May 04, 2020, 07:20:45 PM
Thought I was done with Nintendo after the Wii U, but they keep pulling me back in. :rejoice
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Nintex on May 04, 2020, 07:23:35 PM
Nintendo always does this shit with a single reheated game that you don't see coming.
A few months ago I was like: "Oh yeah a new AC, they've shown it in 2 Directs, no one knows this exists"

And somehow the small nuggets of information seep down into the fabric of society and their new game is the biggest thing in entertainment.

PS5 and Xbox One X Series X will be none events compared to this.  :doge
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Great Rumbler on May 04, 2020, 09:15:52 PM
It helped that a chill, relaxing game came out right when everyone was locked inside and anxious about the corona.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Rahxephon91 on May 04, 2020, 09:17:23 PM
Animal Crossing just looks like such a lame and stupid series. Don't get the appeal. Well, at least XB is coming out. Switch has been dry for me all year.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: thisismyusername on May 04, 2020, 10:19:44 PM
Some people (like the gheys like Andy) just want to interior decorate, Rah.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Tasty on May 04, 2020, 10:46:30 PM
In real life, some people just don't understand the appeal of watering flowers and tending a garden, and some love it. That's the closest analogue to enjoying Animal Crossing that feels appropriate. Ensuring flowers don't die is both a chore and a pleasure.

Consistency and stability inspire an inner calm.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Tasty on May 07, 2020, 10:31:33 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/gLu5da0.png)

JESUS TAPDANCING CHRIST
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Great Rumbler on May 07, 2020, 12:48:08 PM
Some more Switch numbers:

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Nintendo also revealed it has sold a total of 55.77 million Nintendo Switch units worldwide as of March 31.

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Mario Kart 8 Deluxe: 24.77 million copies
Super Smash Bros. Ultimate: 18.84 million copies
The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild: 17.41 million copies
Super Mario Odyssey: 17.41 million copies
Pokémon Sword / Pokémon Shield: 17.37 million copies
Pokémon: Let's Go, Pikachu! / Pokémon: Let's Go, Eevee!: 11.97 million copies
Animal Crossing: New Horizons: 11.77 million copies
Splatoon 2: 10.13 million copies
Super Mario Party: 10.10 million copies
New Super Mario Bros. U Deluxe: 6.60 million copies
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: team filler on May 07, 2020, 01:03:07 PM
 :D :D :D
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Tasty on May 07, 2020, 01:33:30 PM
Quote from: Great Rumbler on May 07, 2020, 12:48:08 PM
Nintendo also revealed it has sold a total of 55.77 million Nintendo Switch units worldwide

Two GameCubes put together. :obama
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Beezy on May 07, 2020, 01:47:20 PM
Is BotW the first mainline Zelda to keep up with a mainline Mario game in sales?
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: team filler on May 07, 2020, 04:01:19 PM
how much do they make off hardware sales?  :hyper
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Tripon on May 07, 2020, 05:41:23 PM
https://www.yahoo.com/finance/m/206e8a4d-d462-3f93-8d0a-d588e016f7cd/nintendo-sells-21-million.html

21 million for the year.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Raist on May 07, 2020, 06:30:44 PM
Quote from: Great Rumbler on May 07, 2020, 12:48:08 PM
Some more Switch numbers:

Quote
Nintendo also revealed it has sold a total of 55.77 million Nintendo Switch units worldwide as of March 31.

Quote
Mario Kart 8 Deluxe: 24.77 million copies
Super Smash Bros. Ultimate: 18.84 million copies
The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild: 17.41 million copies
Super Mario Odyssey: 17.41 million copies
Pokémon Sword / Pokémon Shield: 17.37 million copies
Pokémon: Let's Go, Pikachu! / Pokémon: Let's Go, Eevee!: 11.97 million copies
Animal Crossing: New Horizons: 11.77 million copies
Splatoon 2: 10.13 million copies
Super Mario Party: 10.10 million copies
New Super Mario Bros. U Deluxe: 6.60 million copies

Exact same top 10 for the 3rd gen in a row :hyper
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Trent Dole on May 08, 2020, 09:16:53 PM
Hey stick with what works. :money. :yeshrug
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Nintex on May 22, 2020, 09:08:05 AM
https://twitter.com/MatPiscatella/status/1263816732491149313 (https://twitter.com/MatPiscatella/status/1263816732491149313)

https://twitter.com/firstadopter/status/1263816343184461830 (https://twitter.com/firstadopter/status/1263816343184461830)

CALL OF DUTY MODERN WARFARE  :salute

NINTENDO SWITCH  :miyamoto

FUCK THE HATERS

Nintendo sold over $1 billion in products in a s i n g l e  m o n t h

HAHA VIDEO GAME SALES GO BRRRRR

(https://abload.de/img/fireshotcapture087-1aa5jmm.png)

(https://cdn.lowgif.com/full/a18913bcbe3fd90b-irti-funny-gif-7392-tags-mario-kart-8-luigi-blocks-red-shell.gif)
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: team filler on May 22, 2020, 09:17:01 AM
 :playa :D
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: tiesto on May 22, 2020, 03:29:06 PM
I've been in love with the Switch but I'm hoping Nintendo doesn't get too complacent... Complacent Nintendo is worst Nintendo.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Trent Dole on May 22, 2020, 08:32:24 PM
oh don't worry their next console is destined to be a shitshow it's how the pattern works for them lately.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on May 24, 2020, 12:13:01 PM
Complacent Nintendo is something we saw with Iwata but Nintendo leadership since seems to be more cognizant of the traps of thinking Wii Fit and Wii Music is enough.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Nintex on May 24, 2020, 05:59:42 PM
Quote from: ExoYZA on May 24, 2020, 05:33:58 PM
I'm still convinced that if 1-2 Switch wasn't forgotten while BOTW, SMO and Splatoon 2 did gangbusters we'd see more of the dumb shit. Ringfit ended up a success it seems but Labo not really doing much made them realize "these people actually want videogames and not to check their BMI's daily, huh"
They fixed it by having dedicated teams for their not-game shit. The problem with the Wii era especially was that they had the core teams work on it and cancelled or changed the direction of titles late in development that did not fit that casual profile (Project HAMMER, Kid Icarus Wii, Pilotwings Wii) to bolster their casual line-up. So you got dumb shit like Link's Crossbow Training because that was some asset flip they could do without putting the production of the next Zelda title in jeopardy or in the case like Project HAMMER it didn't work as a casual title and was cancelled. Some developers didn't like this sudden shift to making a quick buck with waggle and left causing more problems.
Nintendo quickly changed their approach leading to a stacked line-up of Donkey Kong, Metroid: Other M and more, but by then the damage had already been done.

It's kinda funny that MS proceeded to do the same thing for their Kinect line-up. Put a real sequel to Fable on the backburner, gutted Rare and cancelled Perfect Dark, Kameo, Crackdown and PGR sequels.
In the case of Microsoft though the damage went further as it burned their second and third party relationships with the likes of Itagaki and left a gaping hole in their first party line-up for a decade.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: tiesto on May 24, 2020, 06:50:07 PM
I'll be honest, I got to play Project HAMMER at E3 2006 during the whole Wii unveil and it seemed like your generic C+-tier action game at that stage. I understand people were desperate for "hardcore" games during the whole post-2008 lull for the platform, but if the game actually came out I assure you it would've been forgotten pretty quickly.

I'll also be honest and say I had a blast with Link's Crossbow Training as a quick casual lightgun score-attack game.

Switch right now is that awesome cross-section between Nintendo first-party exclusives, indies galore, Japanese 3rd parties (with some exclusives of their own), and "gamier" western games. It's got the most fleshed out console lineup of a Nintendo console since the SNES. Every genre is represented in force, even ones not normally associated with Nintendo like western RPG (which hasn't really existed on Nintendo since SNES to my knowledge) and open world.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Positive Touch on May 24, 2020, 08:15:49 PM
Quote from: tiesto on May 24, 2020, 06:50:07 PM

like western RPG (which hasn't really existed on Nintendo since SNES to my knowledge)

how dare you disrespect the Aidyn Chronicles like this
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: tiesto on May 24, 2020, 08:57:09 PM
Quote from: Positive Touch on May 24, 2020, 08:15:49 PM
Quote from: tiesto on May 24, 2020, 06:50:07 PM

like western RPG (which hasn't really existed on Nintendo since SNES to my knowledge)

how dare you disrespect the Aidyn Chronicles like this

tbf, I actually never heard of the game...
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Positive Touch on May 24, 2020, 09:01:18 PM
only reason i know about it is from being friends with a nintendo fanboy back in the day who was desperate for anything to play



the game fucking sucks btw
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Nintex on May 25, 2020, 04:54:40 PM
Quote from: Positive Touch on May 24, 2020, 09:01:18 PM
only reason i know about it is from being friends with a nintendo fanboy back in the day who was desperate for anything to play



the game fucking sucks btw
All Nintendo fans have been there  :fbm

"You know, Sonic Riders isn't so bad" :derp

"On PlayStation 2 they might have Tenkaichi 3 but the graphics on 2 on the GameCube are better" :derp

"Burnout 2 is the best game in the series anyway" :derp

"Actually there is a Final Fantasy game on the Wii"  :derp

"HD games aren't that impressive just look at Kameo"  :derp

"The Conduit looks better than most shooters on Xbox 360"  :derp
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: team filler on May 25, 2020, 07:19:29 PM
 ::)
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Tasty on May 25, 2020, 08:14:56 PM
Quote from: Nintex on May 25, 2020, 04:54:40 PM
Quote from: Positive Touch on May 24, 2020, 09:01:18 PM
only reason i know about it is from being friends with a nintendo fanboy back in the day who was desperate for anything to play



the game fucking sucks btw
All Nintendo fans have been there  :fbm

"You know, Sonic Riders isn't so bad" :derp

"On PlayStation 2 they might have Tenkaichi 3 but the graphics on 2 on the GameCube are better" :derp

"Burnout 2 is the best game in the series anyway" :derp

"Actually there is a Final Fantasy game on the Wii"  :derp

"HD games aren't that impressive just look at Kameo"  :derp

"The Conduit looks better than most shooters on Xbox 360"  :derp

Chillingly accurate except I think you got Budokai and Tenkaichi confused; Wii and PS2 got Tenkaichi 3 and the Wii version was pretty good (I feel like the game overall was a step down from Tenkaichi 2, a Wii launch title/port.)
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Joe Molotov on June 18, 2020, 01:13:48 PM
Ring Fit Adventure crossed a million copies sold in Japan. Mario Kart 8 is about to cross 3 million. Animal Crossing close to 5 million.

June 8, 2020 to June 14, 2020
[NSW] Animal Crossing: New Horizons (Nintendo, 03/20/20) – 77,259 (4,860,488)
[NSW] Clubhouse Games: 51 Worldwide Classics (Nintendo, 06/05/20) – 47,181 (111,624)
[NSW] Ring Fit Adventure (Nintendo, 10/18/19) – 20,023 (1,006,069)
[NSW] Mario Kart 8 Deluxe (Nintendo, 04/28/17) – 9,727 (2,986,454)
[NSW] Splatoon 2 (Bundle Version Included) (Nintendo, 07/21/17) – 8,692 (3,455,342)
[NSW] Xenoblade Chronicles: Definitive Edition (Nintendo, 05/29/20) – 7,950 (115,525)
[NSW] Minecraft: Nintendo Switch Edition (Bundle Version Included) (Microsoft, 06/21/18) – 6,968 (1,413,900)
[NSW] Pokemon Sword / Shield (The Pokemon Company, 11/15/19) – 6,741 (3,621,068)
[NSW] Super Smash Bros. Ultimate (Nintendo, 12/07/18) – 6,634 (3,725,316)
[NSW] Super Mario Party (Nintendo, 10/05/18) – 4,855 (1,467,338)

Hardware Sales (followed by lifetime sales)

Switch – 38,685 (11,575,724)
Switch Lite – 16,502 (2,302,362)
PlayStation 4 Pro – 5,381 (1,551,151)
PlayStation 4 – 3,902 (7,612,259)
New 2DS LL (including 2DS) – 920 (1,719,354)
New 3DS LL – 84 (5,887,760)
Xbox One X – 90 (20,530)
Xbox One S – 14 (93,329)
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Nintex on June 18, 2020, 01:37:13 PM
Japan bought a switch .gif
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: team filler on June 18, 2020, 06:31:53 PM
 :D
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: bork on June 29, 2020, 03:01:39 PM
https://twitter.com/VGChartz/status/1277371415696728066

This after it was listed as the fastest-selling PS4 game in the UK, holy shit.  Is this is a case of everyone who was going to buy it having already purchased the game?
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Pissy F Benny on June 29, 2020, 03:36:04 PM
uncharted 4 apparently had a similar drop :trumps
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Yeti on June 29, 2020, 09:00:45 PM
I’ll get it when it’s $20, maybe
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Svejk on June 29, 2020, 10:19:30 PM
PS Plus next year for me on PS5, HD'afied  ;)
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: paprikastaude on June 29, 2020, 10:47:31 PM
The Chartz still live? :jeanluc
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Tasty on June 29, 2020, 11:19:23 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/Bgz0sj0.jpg)
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Trent Dole on June 29, 2020, 11:36:59 PM
Isn't VGChartz notoriously inaccurate so whatever they say is basically not really true?
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Positive Touch on June 30, 2020, 12:53:07 AM
vgchartz old methodology was to call random gamestops and ask how much a title sold, then make up a number based on that. site is complete bullshit.

also iirc uncharted 4 is one of the best selling games on ps4 and did huge numbers
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Raist on June 30, 2020, 06:54:50 AM
That 2nd week drop is straight from the sales tracker though, so it's accurate information.
It's towards the higher end of the average 2nd week drop especially for huge titles though, nothing exactly surprising.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Nintex on August 06, 2020, 05:57:47 AM
Nintendo posts five-fold profit jump as Animal Crossing sales top 22 million


 :miyamoto :preach :money :rash :success :dice :trumps :birb

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Nintendo has proved a winner of the pandemic as stuck-at-home gamers flock to titles like “Animal Crossing”, which sold 10.6 million units in the first quarter, bringing its total sales to 22.4 million since launching in March.

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Nintendo sold 5.7 million Switch units in the first quarter, composed of 3 million of its hybrid home/portable Switch console plus 2.6 million units of the portable-only Switch Lite, which went on sale last September.
Quote
“The numbers are even more impressive when you consider that throughout the entire quarter, the Switch was hard to get in all major markets,” said Serkan Toto, founder of game industry consultancy Kantan Games.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EeuCFzIWsAAam7W?format=png)


Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: team filler on August 06, 2020, 02:07:34 PM
 :heart :pimp :success
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Fifstar on August 07, 2020, 09:19:04 AM
 :bow :bow2
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: chronovore on August 10, 2020, 04:37:57 AM
Jesus. They’re going to be intolerable to work with as 3rd party. Which never really sells on their iron anyway.

:fbm
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Fifstar on August 10, 2020, 10:48:03 AM
Quote from: chronovore on August 10, 2020, 04:37:57 AM
Jesus. They’re going to be intolerable to work with as 3rd party. Which never really sells on their iron anyway.

:fbm

Lol, arrogant Nintendo is real I guess? Got some stories to share?

As for the second part, I bet at least some indie developers like Team Cherry or Concerned Ape beg to differ.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Nintex on August 10, 2020, 11:09:25 AM
The guy that made snipperclips never wants to work with Nintendo again  :thinking
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Nintex on September 14, 2020, 05:47:36 PM
https://twitter.com/VGC_News/status/1305597939629215745 (https://twitter.com/VGC_News/status/1305597939629215745)

No there is a global recession and pandemic people are saving for next gen hardware  :crybaby

Haha Animal Crossing, Super Mario and Zelda go brrrrrr :miyamoto
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Great Rumbler on September 14, 2020, 06:48:44 PM
https://twitter.com/MatPiscatella/status/1305490895882526721
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Svejk on September 14, 2020, 07:32:58 PM
If people want to keep paying $300 for 10 year old hardware, go for it.  :trumps
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Nintex on October 16, 2020, 07:11:30 PM
September NPD 2020
Switch - 670.000
PS4 - 160.000
XBO - 91.000

Physical only (No digital):
Mario 3D All star - 1.165.000
Marvel's Avengers - 450.000
Animal Crossing: New Horizon - 180.000

 :pika
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Post by: Joe Molotov on October 16, 2020, 08:28:21 PM
Mehvel's Ehhhvegners
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: team filler on October 16, 2020, 09:07:42 PM
 :heart :miyamoto :heart
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Trent Dole on October 17, 2020, 01:41:41 AM
I get that PS4/X1 are on the way out but Switch selling nearly 3x as the two of them combined is still pretty :o
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Tasty on November 08, 2020, 10:48:15 AM
https://www.gamesradar.com/animal-crossing-new-horizons-is-the-series-best-selling-entry-with-26-million-copies-shifted/

New Horizons (26 mil) has more than doubled New Leaf's total sales (12.8 mil.) And New Leaf was the previous high watermark for the series.

It took New Leaf seven years to hit that number. It's been basically seven months since New Horizons released.

ACNH is on course to beat MK8 Deluxe to become the best-selling Switch game.

(https://i.imgur.com/X9p2O7L.gif)
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: team filler on November 08, 2020, 10:56:30 AM
 :horny
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Tasty on November 08, 2020, 12:39:12 PM
Imagine back in 2001/2002 when the first Animal Crossing was being translated for America, you told Treehouse that one day an Animal Crossing game would (likely) become the best-selling game on its console... they probably wouldn't believe you. No one really expected the first game to do all that well in America (but it ended up surprising, and convincing the higher-ups to invest more in the series.)
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: pgtl_10 on November 12, 2020, 12:42:24 AM
Is Animal Crossing any good?
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Tasty on November 12, 2020, 07:50:41 AM
Quote from: pgtl_10 on November 12, 2020, 12:42:24 AM
Is Animal Crossing any good?

What kind of games do you like?

If you're allergic to life sims, I'm afraid it's not quite genre-bendingly good enough to appeal outside that.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Nintex on November 12, 2020, 07:27:55 PM
Nintendo sold over 730k Switches in October.  :whoo
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: team filler on November 12, 2020, 07:29:15 PM
 :playa :bow :bow :bow :bow :miyamoto :bow2 :bow2 :bow2 :bow2 :bow2
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Tasty on November 12, 2020, 07:29:34 PM
Quote from: Nintex on November 12, 2020, 07:27:55 PM
Nintendo sold over 730k Switches in October.  :whoo

US or WW?

Edit- Just US, holy shit.

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With growth of 136% when compared to the same month in 2019, the Nintendo Switch family of systems saw its strongest October sales yet, with more than 735,000 units sold between Nintendo Switch and Nintendo Switch Lite in the U.S. According to numbers provided by NPD, the October 2020 sales of Nintendo Switch are the second-highest October sales of any video game console in history, only outdone by the 807,000 units sold of the Wii system in October 2008.

October continues a record-setting streak for Nintendo Switch as the best-selling video game console for 23 consecutive months – the most months in a row for any video game console since NPD started tracking sales numbers. To date, Nintendo Switch has sold more than 22.5 million units in the U.S., according to NPD. And according to internal Nintendo data, Nintendo Switch has sold-in more than 63 million units worldwide.

The Wii-DS days are here again :playa
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Nintex on November 12, 2020, 08:07:35 PM
Nintendo can hardly keep up with demand as is, but I imagine the Switch Lite and Switch would shoot into the stratosphere if they dropped prices of the existing models and introduced a new Switch 4k or Pro at $349 - $399.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Tasty on November 12, 2020, 08:39:39 PM
$149 Switch Lite
$199 Switch
$299 Switch Pro

I need a Reggie version of :trumps

Anyways yeah, whenever the Lite in particular drops to the DS's launch price ($149), that's the big sweet spot.

If there's enough stock, I could see Switch Pro picking up sales if Series X and PS5 can't metaphorically stay on shelves.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on November 15, 2020, 08:46:51 AM
730k in October dayuuum
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Nintex on November 15, 2020, 09:04:01 AM
Quote from: Tasty on November 12, 2020, 08:39:39 PM
$149 Switch Lite
$199 Switch
$299 Switch Pro

I need a Reggie version of :trumps

Anyways yeah, whenever the Lite in particular drops to the DS's launch price ($149), that's the big sweet spot.

If there's enough stock, I could see Switch Pro picking up sales if Series X and PS5 can't metaphorically stay on shelves.
If Switch Pro is akin to Xbox Series S with a screen and Nvidia DLSS they could get basically get ports of everything  :miyamoto
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Tasty on November 15, 2020, 11:18:37 AM
:drool I'm particularly excited about that nVidia DLSS tech.

That plus cloud versions being a thing now means everything is possible for Switch :jeb
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Tasty on November 15, 2020, 11:20:10 AM
Also I'm not convinced the Switch Pro will have a screen. Could wring a lot more performance out for the dollar if they just did a box.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Tasty on November 15, 2020, 01:36:12 PM
If Switch Pro is real I'm drooling at the thought of a 60fps performance mode for Animal Crossing. :drool

The previous two console AC's were 60fps while the handheld entries were 30fps, until NH. Switch Pro + 60fps AC would rectify this.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Beezy on November 15, 2020, 05:27:21 PM
I feel like you're all being way too optimistic about Nintendo doing a significant hardware refresh.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Tasty on November 15, 2020, 05:36:17 PM
Quote from: Beezy on November 15, 2020, 05:27:21 PM
I feel like you're all being way too optimistic about Nintendo doing a significant hardware refresh.

(https://i.imgur.com/9BRZSwR.png)

I take it you missed the Project Cafe runaway hype train. :lol

I'm not expecting much, because I'm honestly pretty content with my current Switch (it could honestly be the last video game system I ever buy and I wouldn't care as long as software/online support is still there.)

But it's fun to speculate. :)
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: naff on November 15, 2020, 06:03:24 PM
Quote from: Tasty on November 15, 2020, 05:36:17 PM

I take it you missed the Project Cafe runaway hype train. :lol


omg, i had totally forgotten about this. man i was excited about a next gen project cafe zelda and thought the wii u looked so sick initially. i did end up playing botw on it, but imagine if it that came out back in 2013 or so  :noah
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Beezy on November 15, 2020, 09:00:41 PM
Lol I've been around for all the Nintendo hypetrains, that's why I keep my expectations low when it comes to their hardware. I'd shed tears of joy if they proved me wrong.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Trent Dole on November 15, 2020, 09:07:47 PM
4k Switch BELIEVE :rejoice
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: bork on November 24, 2020, 09:46:51 AM
Hyrule Warriors Age Of Calamity sold three million+ copies already.  Best launch sales for a musou game ever.

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Koei Tecmo reveals (via Famitsu) that this sales total already makes Hyrule Warriors: Age of Calamity the best-selling Warriors game of all time, outselling lifetime totals achieved by the likes of Dynasty Warriors, Dragon Quest Warriors, Fire Emblem Warriors, and the previous Hyrule Warriors games in a matter of days.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: team filler on November 24, 2020, 11:16:38 AM
 :heart    :bow :bow :bow :link :bow2 :bow2 :bow2
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Tasty on November 24, 2020, 01:41:10 PM
Holy goddamn shit. I don't even respect Musous but I respect that. :playa
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Tasty on November 24, 2020, 01:43:49 PM
You get the Musou + newer Hyrule Warriors Wii U/3DS players + the Zelda weebs in it for the story. They're some mad geniuses up in there. :miyamoto
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Tasty on December 13, 2020, 09:04:51 AM
Factoid I missed.

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Super Smash Bros. Ultimate is the best-selling fighting game of all time, having sold over 21 million copies by September 2020.

In just 1.8 years. :trumps
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Great Rumbler on December 13, 2020, 07:11:18 PM
It's crazy how well Nintendo first-party games continue to sell.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Tasty on December 13, 2020, 07:36:17 PM
Nintendo operates on a tick-tock cycle, next gen might be the bad old days again but goddamn is it hard to imagine right now.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Great Rumbler on December 13, 2020, 09:09:23 PM
The Wii U was mostly an example of just being too soon. The tech wasn't there to do what Nintendo really wanted, but they pushed it out anyway. I'd imagine that whatever comes after Switch will continue to be a hybrid system, so it shouldn't have nearly the same kind of problems that last gen had.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: team filler on December 15, 2020, 02:10:44 AM
after switch will be a console you experience only in drive-in theaters  :miyamoto
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Nintex on December 15, 2020, 11:40:06 AM
Quote from: Tasty on December 13, 2020, 07:36:17 PM
Nintendo operates on a tick-tock cycle, next gen might be the bad old days again but goddamn is it hard to imagine right now.
They have the secret weapon. Nvidia DLSS.
If they deploy that well they could release a system that punches well above its weight.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Nintex on December 24, 2020, 06:43:34 AM
https://twitter.com/GameSpot/status/1341911521157402625 (https://twitter.com/GameSpot/status/1341911521157402625)

We won gamers  :dice

Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Tasty on December 24, 2020, 08:03:59 AM
Honestly... time to unionize. Strike while the iron is hot.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Tasty on December 24, 2020, 08:29:37 AM
Game journalism :neogaf
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Nintex on December 24, 2020, 08:51:38 AM
#stopthesteal  :hmph

We were ahead by a lot. Gamers won.

You can't even sports right now. Also there's the big loss of not having the Olympics that should be taken from the Sports total.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: team filler on December 24, 2020, 12:49:56 PM
Quote from: riotous on December 24, 2020, 08:28:36 AM
Quote from: Nintex on December 24, 2020, 06:43:34 AM
https://twitter.com/GameSpot/status/1341911521157402625 (https://twitter.com/GameSpot/status/1341911521157402625)

We won gamers  :dice

lol.. the original article had this wrong.. I actually contacted the guy on twitter and he updated it.. now his article just makes no sense.

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/videogames-are-a-bigger-industry-than-sports-and-movies-combined-thanks-to-the-pandemic-11608654990

"Videogames are a bigger industry than movies and North American sports combined, thanks to the pandemic"

lol.. it's now comparing WW gaming to WW movies + NA sports lol

" A previous version of this report stated that PwC expected the global sports industry to be worth $75 billion in 2020. That figure was for North America. The story has been updated."

My fact checking wins again!
:dead
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: team filler on December 24, 2020, 01:54:59 PM
he got nuked dadsplained from orbit  :lol
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Nintex on December 24, 2020, 02:04:37 PM
 :rodney "I'm gonna write some clickbait and make my boss happy. Maybe he'll give me some Amiibo for Christmas"

 :snob "Excuse me sir, this is all wrong did you check your facts. I very much doubt the integrity of your sources and your ability to run these numbers"

 :rodney "Thank you for your feedback, I will change it a bit"

 :snob "This is still all wrong, clearly you haven't got the faintest idea what you are doing"

 :crybaby "Get away from me GamerGater"

Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: MMaRsu on December 24, 2020, 02:39:29 PM
Do kids even know what a gamergater is these days

Sounds like a fucking sports drink

Gamer Gatorade
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Potato on December 24, 2020, 06:44:21 PM
It's safe to assume that any time a "games journalist" writes anything about the financial aspects of the industry, they have misunderstood facts at best or purposely misrepresented the numbers to suit their personal agenda.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Nintex on December 24, 2020, 07:18:01 PM
Quote from: Potato on December 24, 2020, 06:44:21 PM
It's safe to assume that any time a "games journalist" writes anything about the financial aspects of the industry, they have misunderstood facts at best or purposely misrepresented the numbers to suit their personal agenda.
(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/iqjUoDBNSYI/hqdefault.jpg)
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: team filler on December 28, 2020, 09:55:51 PM
https://twitter.com/nintendolife/status/1343751096704053249
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Tasty on December 29, 2020, 11:01:01 AM
Amazon Releases Best Sellers of 2020, Top 10 Dominated by Nintendo (https://www.dualshockers.com/amazon-top-selling-games-nintendo-dominates/)

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1. Animal Crossing: New Horizons (Physical)
2. Super Mario 3D All-Stars
3. Mario Kart 8 Deluxe
4. Super Smash Bros. Ultimate
5. Animal Crossing: New Horizons (Digital)
6. Cyberpunk 2077 (PS4)
7. Ring Fit Adventure
8. Hyrule Warriors: Age of Calamity
9. The Last of Us Part II
10. The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild

New Horizons charting twice :whew
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: mormapope on December 29, 2020, 11:18:15 AM
And people act like Sony first party games have the same pedigree as Nintendo's  :lol
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Nintex on December 29, 2020, 11:26:11 AM
This really was the biggest year for Xbox
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: MMaRsu on December 29, 2020, 01:30:22 PM
Well at least Cyberpunk charted  :)

Also goddamn Nintendo just raking in cash
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Potato on December 29, 2020, 04:21:38 PM
Quote from: mormapope on December 29, 2020, 11:18:15 AM
And people act like Sony first party games have the same pedigree as Nintendo's  :lol
Sony's first party games literally follow the same sales trajectory as any other AAA game. Hugely front-loaded and then only maintain a tail because they quickly join the bargain bin, followed by new versions bundled with the DLC. After the first 3 months, literally nobody is paying full price for Sony first party games.

Nintendo, on the other hand, can sell Mario Kart 8 at full price for 6 years and counting.

There's no comparing pedigree. Sony ain't even welcome in the competition.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Tasty on December 29, 2020, 05:13:06 PM
We're still a few decades away from Super Sony World for sure. :trumps
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Nintex on December 29, 2020, 08:00:25 PM
You just know Microsoft is going to blow 50 billion on a HALO rollercoaster that will never open.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Tasty on December 29, 2020, 09:46:47 PM
Quote
Nintendo, on the other hand, can sell Mario Kart 8 at full price for 6 years and counting.

Also I should note they increased the price by $10 with the Switch version. :lol And it's selling better than ever. :D
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Beezy on December 30, 2020, 02:29:19 PM
All these Wii U ports selling like crazy, yet it feels like Nintendo's output of new games for the Switch is low. I have more than enough to play, so I'm not complaining. I just wish they'd give their less popular franchises a shot again.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Tasty on December 30, 2020, 02:51:02 PM
Nintendo pulled back on 2H 2020 releases because of COVID, and in prior years I'd accept some mocking to suggest this, but it really feels like they've been holding back announcing a lot of shit.

Switch is allegedly only halfway through its lifecycle so I'm sure we'll be getting some meat soon.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: MMaRsu on December 30, 2020, 04:05:08 PM
You'd like some real meat wouldnt you

 :obama
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: BIONIC on December 30, 2020, 04:47:16 PM
Quote from: MMaRsu on December 30, 2020, 04:05:08 PM
You'd like some real meat wouldnt you

 :obama

Don’t we all?  :goty
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Tasty on December 30, 2020, 04:56:37 PM
Quote from: MMaRsu on December 30, 2020, 04:05:08 PM
You'd like some real meat wouldnt you

 :obama

(https://i.imgur.com/K35gd1A.gif)
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Tasty on February 01, 2021, 09:36:57 AM
Nintendo Switch has now outsold 3DS
Switch Lite alone almost equals Wii U (https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2021-02-01-nintendo-switch-has-now-outsold-3ds)

(https://i.imgur.com/WdrpTEB.gif)
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Tasty on February 01, 2021, 09:40:02 AM
Idiots in 2016: "But if Nintendo merges handheld and console that'll mean half the games and half the hardware/software sales!"

Reality: :nope :miyamoto
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Tasty on February 01, 2021, 09:46:11 AM
https://twitter.com/ZhugeEX/status/1356160519095394304

https://twitter.com/ZhugeEX/status/1356160526489890817

Switch should overtake Wii this year. :o
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Tasty on February 01, 2021, 10:05:25 AM
Animal Crossing: New Horizons appears to be the fast-selling console exclusive ever made, even including pack-ins such as WiiSports and the original Super Mario Bros.

31 million sales in 9 months.

New Horizons will have eclipsed the rest of the franchise total (N64 + GC + City Folk + Wild World + New Leaf + spinoffs) by the end of this year quarter. Holy shit. :mindblown

People wanting Year 2 DLC to BIG but also remain free, while I'm sitting here going, "There's no way Nintendo doesn't recycle the Smash/Zelda/Pokemon 'two-hit expansion pass'" idea.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Nintex on February 01, 2021, 01:51:07 PM
What surprises me most about Nintendo's success is that they've done it in a different price bracket.
Selling $99 - $149 handhelds with Pokemon to kids is much easier than a $300 - $350 device.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Tasty on February 01, 2021, 01:54:44 PM
Inflation probably helps. As did the 3DS breaking in with that ridiculous $250 launch MRSP, I think anyways.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Tasty on February 01, 2021, 07:34:29 PM
https://twitter.com/sonicpulsar/status/1356318751092826117
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Potato on February 02, 2021, 11:58:53 PM
Don't know about you guys, but here a Nintendo title at launch can usually be picked up for AU$64 and the regular price at the big retailers will be $69 and sometimes $79 for Smash and Zelda.

Digital will always cost $80+ except for the occasional sale or if you buy the Nintendo online voucher things.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Tasty on February 03, 2021, 01:38:33 PM
https://twitter.com/rayforcegame/status/1356940242352107520

(https://i.imgur.com/ifcXUie.jpg)

:yikes for Sony

(http://www.thebore.com/forum/Smileys/default/5x0jee.gif)
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: MMaRsu on February 03, 2021, 02:20:46 PM
I dont think Sony really cares all that much about Japan anyway

Gonna bet they are still huge in other parts of Asia too
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Raist on February 03, 2021, 04:07:57 PM
Quote from: Tasty on February 03, 2021, 01:38:33 PM
https://twitter.com/rayforcegame/status/1356940242352107520

(https://i.imgur.com/ifcXUie.jpg)

:yikes for Sony

(http://www.thebore.com/forum/Smileys/default/5x0jee.gif)


(https://i.imgur.com/S9eei.gif)

Playstation sales last Quarter: 880B yen.
Nintendo: 630B

I don't think they give a fuck about Japan :lol
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: bork on February 04, 2021, 07:27:20 AM
https://twitter.com/rayforcegame/status/1356961988518109192
https://twitter.com/rayforcegame/status/1357148804512837632

Makes sense that PS5 sales are so bad there when nobody can get one.  :doge

To note, most of the games in the top 15 are Nintendo-published titles.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Tasty on February 08, 2021, 01:10:18 PM
Bad software sales isn't a good sign either. 😬
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: bork on February 08, 2021, 09:11:53 PM
https://twitter.com/AndyPlaytonic/status/1358692562975002624
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Joe Molotov on February 09, 2021, 09:18:34 AM
for all intensive porpoises
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: chronovore on February 16, 2021, 12:58:19 AM
Quote from: MMaRsu on February 03, 2021, 02:20:46 PM
I dont think Sony really cares all that much about Japan anyway

Gonna bet they are still huge in other parts of Asia too

Sony as an international business entity might not care a whole lot about Japan. Sony as a Japanese zaibatsu definitely is hurting about this. There is a strange affliction in the Japanese business mind that sees conquest at home as being infinitely superior to any other market, despite its size. It’s a matter of personal pride.

Obligatory:
spoiler (click to show/hide)
:expert
[close]
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Nintex on March 29, 2021, 02:48:33 PM
https://twitter.com/GIBiz/status/1376524667813511171 (https://twitter.com/GIBiz/status/1376524667813511171)

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Monster Hunter Rise  8)
Super Mario 3D All-Stars  8)
Animal Crossing: New Horizons  8)
Super Mario 3D World + Bowser's Fury  8)
Minecraft Dungeons   :-\
Minecraft (Switch)   :-\
Mario Kart 8: Deluxe  8)
FIFA 21  :yuck
Luigi's Mansion 3  8)
Super Mario Odyssey  8)

:mario :mario :mario :mario :mario
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Tasty on March 29, 2021, 03:31:28 PM
Good news for Rise. :)
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Svejk on March 29, 2021, 04:21:01 PM
Quote from: Nintex on March 29, 2021, 02:48:33 PM
https://twitter.com/GIBiz/status/1376524667813511171 (https://twitter.com/GIBiz/status/1376524667813511171)

Quote
Monster Hunter Rise  8)
Super Mario 3D All-Stars  8)
Animal Crossing: New Horizons  8)
Super Mario 3D World + Bowser's Fury  8)
Minecraft Dungeons   :-\
Minecraft (Switch)   :-\
Mario Kart 8: Deluxe  8)
FIFA 21  :yuck
Luigi's Mansion 3  8)
Super Mario Odyssey  8)

:mario :mario :mario :mario :mario
Speaking for Mario: Only because people know that the prices will never be this low ever again for Mario games.  Hell, even I bought Mario Odyssey and Mario Maker 2 because I knew they were as cheap as they were gonna get.  Personally, I haven't even touched either them yet. .... 

Damn it, Nintendo!.. How do you still manage to siphon money (more than I've spent on my PS5, accessories and games!) from me when I don't even play your shit?!?   :dead 

(https://y.yarn.co/b4e24776-d663-4de7-b7c0-fb627017078e_text.gif)
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Tasty on April 05, 2021, 06:49:29 PM
Monster Hunter Rise Surpasses 5 Million Units Globally! (https://www.capcom.co.jp/ir/english/news/html/e210405.html)

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Capcom Co., Ltd. (Capcom) today announced that Monster Hunter Rise for Nintendo Switch has shipped 5 million units worldwide.

The Monster Hunter series consists of hunting action games that pit players against giant monsters in a beautiful natural environment. Beginning with the first title in 2004, the series established a new genre in which players cooperate to hunt ferocious monsters with their friends and has since grown into a global phenomenon with cumulative sales of the series exceeding 66 million units shipped as of December 31, 2020.

Monster Hunter Rise is an all-new Monster Hunter title for Nintendo Switch. The game was developed with Capcom's proprietary RE ENGINE in order to provide a new, accessible Monster Hunter experience that can be enjoyed anytime, anywhere and with anyone. In addition to new monsters and locales, the game provides a completely fresh take on the hunting experience through a host of new, exhilarating hunting actions made possible with the Wirebug. With this, players can traverse terrain at high speed, or even bind monsters and control them. Further adding to the excitement is the debut of new "canyne" hunting partners called Palamutes. The title garnered critical acclaim following the release of two demos featuring both local and online cooperative play prior to launch, with resulting shipments exceeding 5 million units one week since release.

Additionally, Monster Hunter Stories 2: Wings of Ruin, a new role-playing game that will feature elements that can link with Monster Hunter Rise is scheduled for release on July 9, 2021. What is more, Capcom will roll out a wide variety of initiatives that go beyond the scope of games to continue increasing brand value. These include the series' first Hollywood film adaptation Monster Hunter, which is being met with success worldwide, as well as character merchandising and apparel.

Capcom remains firmly committed to satisfying the expectations of all users by leveraging its industry-leading game development capabilities in order to create highly entertaining gameplay experiences.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Tasty on April 05, 2021, 06:52:05 PM
Quote from: IGN
For comparison, Monster Hunter World shipped five million copies in three days, but across both Xbox One and PlayStation 4 platforms.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Nintex on April 06, 2021, 04:44:34 AM
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Capcom remains firmly committed to satisfying the expectations of all users by leveraging its industry-leading game development capabilities in order to create highly entertaining gameplay experiences.

Capcom discovered the secret that a video game company should focus on making video games
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Tasty on April 06, 2021, 08:29:19 AM
Quote from: Nintex on April 06, 2021, 04:44:34 AM
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Capcom remains firmly committed to satisfying the expectations of all users by leveraging its industry-leading game development capabilities in order to create highly entertaining gameplay experiences.

Capcom discovered the secret that a video game company should focus on making video games

Not exactly:

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What is more, Capcom will roll out a wide variety of initiatives that go beyond the scope of games to continue increasing brand value. These include the series' first Hollywood film adaptation Monster Hunter, which is being met with success worldwide, as well as character merchandising and apparel.

Who likes that MH film?? ???
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Nintex on April 06, 2021, 08:35:47 AM
Quote from: Tasty on April 06, 2021, 08:29:19 AM
Who likes that MH film?? ???
Paul W. S. Anderson and Milla Jovovich
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Tasty on April 06, 2021, 08:43:29 AM
Not even Tony Jaa huh? :P
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Nintex on April 06, 2021, 11:53:59 AM
Quote from: Tasty on April 06, 2021, 08:43:29 AM
Not even Tony Jaa huh? :P
mediocre video game movies is their fetish :trumps
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: MMaRsu on April 13, 2021, 04:43:41 PM
60 mil budget

WORLDWIDE
$37,054,169

 :lol 'a huge succes'
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Nintex on April 16, 2021, 04:33:54 PM
Microsoft can buy whatever the fuck they want, they're not moving any boxes

https://twitter.com/MatPiscatella/status/1383042564756893703 (https://twitter.com/MatPiscatella/status/1383042564756893703)
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Svejk on April 16, 2021, 04:51:00 PM
People can bitch all they want about Sony.  Fuckin' love my PS5 with my enhanced PS4 collection.  Worth every damn penny.   :trumps
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Don Rumata on April 16, 2021, 06:57:54 PM
Quote from: Nintex on April 16, 2021, 04:33:54 PM
Microsoft can buy whatever the fuck they want, they're not moving any boxes

https://twitter.com/MatPiscatella/status/1383042564756893703 (https://twitter.com/MatPiscatella/status/1383042564756893703)
The general consensus is that MS is playing the long game with gamepass/Xcloud, not trying to sell Xboxes.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Nintex on April 16, 2021, 07:27:26 PM
If they don't move Xbox's and GPU supply remains as is it's going to be a very long game.
In fact, GamePass for PC is hardly advertised at all. It's mostly Xbox promotions.

Last I checked GamePass was at 18 million subscriptions and by pulling Xbox One X and other older models from shelves they're reliant on Series S/X.
To me the number of GamePass subscriptions at the moment seems tied to the number of boxes they can sell.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Beezy on April 16, 2021, 10:56:06 PM
I know you don't live in the US Nintex and I don't know what the XSX sales numbers are, but they're not sitting on shelves here. Both next gen consoles have been hard as hell to find.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: team filler on April 17, 2021, 12:01:45 AM
nintendo winning and I didn't have to spend a dime helping the team get another W  :rejoice
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: HardcoreRetro on April 17, 2021, 10:22:05 AM
Quote from: Beezy on April 16, 2021, 10:56:06 PM
I know you don't live in the US Nintex and I don't know what the XSX sales numbers are, but they're not sitting on shelves here. Both next gen consoles have been hard as hell to find.

They haven't been restocked here for weeks now as far as I can tell. Last time I tried was like the middle of March and I was probably like a minute too late with ordering or something.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Beezy on April 17, 2021, 10:56:25 AM
On twitter, Wario64 posts when sites has them available. I've seen Gamestop, Best Buy and I think Amazon restocks in the past week or two.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: HardcoreRetro on April 17, 2021, 11:52:07 AM
Like Nintex, I'm Dutch. We got this telegram app group with people that use bots when they go up, but even that has been silent. Seems there's been nothing the last two weeks in the Netherlands.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Nintex on April 17, 2021, 04:03:19 PM
Quote from: HardcoreRetro on April 17, 2021, 11:52:07 AM
Like Nintex, I'm Dutch. We got this telegram app group with people that use bots when they go up, but even that has been silent. Seems there's been nothing the last two weeks in the Netherlands.
I'm not tracking Xbox in Europe, US is their strong market.

Xbox in Europe outside of the UK was already dead with Xbox One.
Which sort of has its benefits actually. I never had to worry about Xbox One games selling out.

You can still buy some 'Day One Edition' launch games  :doge

I remember when HALO 3 launched. That was a big event. Stores trying to match discounts, bundles stacked up everywhere.
Haven't seen such buzz for Xbox on this side of the world in a long time.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Nintex on April 18, 2021, 07:55:40 PM
https://twitter.com/nintendolife/status/1383665356569399305 (https://twitter.com/nintendolife/status/1383665356569399305)

(https://i0.wp.com/mynintendonews.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/mario_kart_pie_chart.jpg?resize=586%2C566&ssl=1)

(http://cdn1.vox-cdn.com/assets/4457705/mario_kart_overlapping_line_chart.jpg)

https://www.polygon.com/2014/5/15/5718168/mario-kart-series-sales (https://www.polygon.com/2014/5/15/5718168/mario-kart-series-sales)

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Mario Kart 8 will likely be the worst-selling game in franchise history, here's why

 :miyamoto
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Tasty on April 18, 2021, 08:30:32 PM
Polygon was confirmed trash since launch but this is the sweetest nail in the coffin. 8)
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Rufus on April 19, 2021, 12:15:03 PM
Dig up an article from 2014 to lick your fan wounds. :lol

They assumed it was stuck on the Wii U. No shit they thought MK8 sales would suck. If anything, lambast them for stretching this premise beyond ten words.

Fanthings deserve drug resistant gonorrhea.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Nintex on April 19, 2021, 12:48:15 PM
Quote from: Rufus on April 19, 2021, 12:15:03 PM
Dig up an article from 2014 to lick your fan wounds. :lol

They assumed it was stuck on the Wii U. No shit they thought MK8 sales would suck. If anything, lambast them for stretching this premise beyond ten words.

Fanthings deserve drug resistant gonorrhea.
It was a dumb take either way. Mario Kart 8 was not going to do worse than Super Circuit and would very likely outsell Double Dash and both things happened before it released on Switch because it sold 8.3 million units on Wii U.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Fifstar on April 19, 2021, 04:44:37 PM
Quote from: Rufus on April 19, 2021, 12:15:03 PM
Dig up an article from 2014 to lick your fan wounds. :lol

They assumed it was stuck on the Wii U. No shit they thought MK8 sales would suck. If anything, lambast them for stretching this premise beyond ten words.

Fanthings deserve drug resistant gonorrhea.

That article is a meme on resetera, no need to dig it up. Polygon probably just keeps it online because it drives so muchs traffic.

That chart is all kinds of dumb.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Rufus on April 19, 2021, 06:00:27 PM
Quote from: Fifstar on April 19, 2021, 04:44:37 PM
That article is a meme on resetera, no need to dig it up. Polygon probably just keeps it online because it drives so muchs traffic.

That chart is all kinds of dumb.
That's even worse.  :jeanluc
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Nintex on April 26, 2021, 07:43:58 PM
https://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2021-04-26-nier-replicant-ver-1-22474487139-is-no-1-in-the-uk-uk-boxed-charts (https://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2021-04-26-nier-replicant-ver-1-22474487139-is-no-1-in-the-uk-uk-boxed-charts)

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Nier Replicant ver.1.22474487139 tops the charts, knocking FIFA 21 down to No.2. The last Nier game that was released came in March 2017 in the form of the acclaimed Nier Automata. This remake sold 50% fewer copies than Automata.
89% of sales were on PS4 and 11% on Xbox One. Digital sales are not included.

People growing tired of EA's shit and embracing Yoko Taro :rejoice


Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Fifstar on May 06, 2021, 07:16:06 AM
https://twitter.com/ZhugeEX/status/1390206156631592960

Nintendo sets a new record for operating profit for a videogame platform holder, almost doubling Sony Playstation own record FY2020 profits  :lol

Previous record was Nintendo during the Wii/DS era

Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Great Rumbler on May 06, 2021, 03:37:22 PM
Been a great year for the Switch with PS4/Xbone on their last legs and PS5/XSX in short supply.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Bebpo on May 16, 2021, 12:24:25 AM
I just saw that RE8 completely bombed in Japan down from RE3R even.

I wonder what the reasoning is. RE3R wasn't that long ago, have tens of thousands of Japanese players who would play RE sold their PS4s and moved to Switch only at this point? Or is it because Japanese players aren't big on FPS? RE7 did fine, but PS4 was healthier at that point and RE still had a lot of hype. Was a huge drop from RE6 still.

I'm sure RE8 will do fine worldwide. And I didn't expect it to do anything special in Japan. Just surprised it's down from like 180k -> 140k opening from RE3R.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Nintex on May 16, 2021, 06:47:23 AM
Quote from: Bebpo on May 16, 2021, 12:24:25 AM
I just saw that RE8 completely bombed in Japan down from RE3R even.

I wonder what the reasoning is. RE3R wasn't that long ago, have tens of thousands of Japanese players who would play RE sold their PS4s and moved to Switch only at this point? Or is it because Japanese players aren't big on FPS? RE7 did fine, but PS4 was healthier at that point and RE still had a lot of hype. Was a huge drop from RE6 still.

I'm sure RE8 will do fine worldwide. And I didn't expect it to do anything special in Japan. Just surprised it's down from like 180k -> 140k opening from RE3R.
FPS games don't do that hot in Japan in general and they really advertised mostly the action parts of this game and the vampire lady.
I was quite surprised how different the tone of the game is compared to the trailers. Much more silly/cringe/80's movie as you would expect from Resident Evil and far less 'serious'.
The vampire lady plays a very small role in the game overall.

I expect PS5 shortages also have something to do with this. I was quite surprised to see how well it runs on Xbox One X and PS4 (Pro).
This game was announced as a PS5 game first and they didn't put the last gen versions on the radar until they released the demo.
There is also the part where Capcom says it isn't Resident Evil 8 but Resident Evil Village and still put a VIII in the logo. Overall the marketing was just weird.

There's a rumor that Capcom is working on a (timed exclusive) Resident Evil game for Switch releasing late 2021 or early 2022 but it hasn't surfaced yet.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Svejk on May 17, 2021, 11:46:36 AM
The lack of VR is a big miss imo.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: naff on May 17, 2021, 11:08:29 PM
maybe they looked at Skyrim VR and figured they'll pull releasing it as a whole new SKU alongside the PSVR 2 :success
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: MMaRsu on May 18, 2021, 03:11:52 AM
Quote from: Nintex on May 16, 2021, 06:47:23 AM
Quote from: Bebpo on May 16, 2021, 12:24:25 AM
I just saw that RE8 completely bombed in Japan down from RE3R even.

I wonder what the reasoning is. RE3R wasn't that long ago, have tens of thousands of Japanese players who would play RE sold their PS4s and moved to Switch only at this point? Or is it because Japanese players aren't big on FPS? RE7 did fine, but PS4 was healthier at that point and RE still had a lot of hype. Was a huge drop from RE6 still.

I'm sure RE8 will do fine worldwide. And I didn't expect it to do anything special in Japan. Just surprised it's down from like 180k -> 140k opening from RE3R.
FPS games don't do that hot in Japan

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Yes. So I'll start with Apex and then Andrew may want to jump on, on FIFA. So on Apex, clearly, as you said, Japan is the second-largest market for Apex, which is very exciting for us. And we know that it's one of the largest markets for the Nintendo Switch.

https://www.fool.com/earnings/call-transcripts/2021/02/02/electronic-arts-ea-q3-2021-earnings-call-transcrip/

 :what
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Trent Dole on May 21, 2021, 03:44:15 PM
I know some weebs who love them some Apex so that checks out. :uguu
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Joe Molotov on May 22, 2021, 02:35:25 PM
A lot of vtubers play Apex.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: chronovore on June 02, 2021, 08:21:12 AM
The markets are wildly different. People who play competitive FPS are not inherently the same group who want single player horror games.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: team filler on August 13, 2021, 12:44:23 AM
https://twitter.com/Erzat110/status/1425822249676775429

https://www.famitsu.com/news/202108/12230186.html


the winning never stops  :trumps
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: bork on August 13, 2021, 09:14:18 AM
https://twitter.com/GameDataLibrary/status/1426003162889134082

 :whoo



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Famitsu Sales: Week 32, 2021 (Aug 02 - Aug 08)


01./04. [NSW] Minecraft # <ADV> (Microsoft Game Studios) {2018.06.21} (¥3.600) - 14.912 / 2.102.413 (+7%)
02./02. [NSW] The Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword HD <ADV> (Nintendo) {2021.07.16} (¥5.980) - 13.873 / 234.224 (-25%)
03./05. [NSW] Crayon Shin-chan: Ora to Hakase no Natsuyasumi - Owaranai Nanokakan no Tabi # <ADV> (Neos) {2021.07.15} (¥5.982) - 13.798 / 156.274 (+12%)
04./06. [NSW] Mario Kart 8 Deluxe <RCE> (Nintendo) {2017.04.28} (¥5.980) - 13.615 / 3.958.065 (+11%)
05./07. [NSW] Ring Fit Adventure # <HOB> (Nintendo) {2019.10.18} (¥7.980) - 12.282 / 2.734.231 (+5%)
06./11. [NSW] Momotaro Dentetsu: Showa, Heisei, Reiwa mo Teiban! <TBL> (Konami) {2020.11.19} (¥6.300) - 10.927 / 2.300.976 (+19%)
07./09. [NSW] Monster Hunter Stories 2: Wings of Ruin <RPG> (Capcom) {2021.07.09} (¥6.990) - 10.135 / 205.463 (+6%)
08./12. [NSW] Super Smash Bros. Ultimate # <FTG> (Nintendo) {2018.12.07} (¥7.200) - 8.978 / 4.367.573 (+5%)
09./13. [NSW] eBaseball Professional Baseball Spirits 2021: Grand Slam <SPT> (Konami) {2021.07.08} (¥6.980) - 8.950 / 159.492 (+5%)
10./08. [NSW] Game Builder Garage <EDU> (Nintendo) {2021.06.11} (¥3.164) - 8.925 / 200.100 (-9%)

11. [NSW] Super Mario 3D World + Bowser's Fury – 8,248 / 836,565
12. [NSW] Super Mario Party – 6,780 / 1,952,132
13. [NSW] Miitopia – 6,536 / 217,957
14. [NSW] Animal Crossing: New Horizons – 6,529 / 6,844,545
15. [NSW] Mario Golf: Super Rush – 6,057 / 161,785
16. [NSW] Clubhouse Games: 51 Worldwide Classics – 5,077 / 762,996
17. [NSW] Pokemon Sword/Shield – 4,974 / 4,099,325
18. [NSW] Monster Hunter Rise – 4,748 / 2,303,192
19. [NSW] Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Games Tokyo 2020 – 4,639 / 397,154
20. [NSW] Splatoon 2 – 4,460 / 3,915,901
21. [NSW] Zelda: Breath of the Wild – 4,210 / 1,852,012
22. [NSW] The Great Ace Attorney Chronicles – 3,737 / 18,197
23. [NSW] NEO: The World Ends with You – 3,229 / 22,028
24. [NSW] The Legend of Heroes: Trails of Cold Steel II – 2,853 / NEW
25. [NSW] New Pokemon Snap – 2,756 / 265,980
26. [NSW] Taiko no Tatsujin: Drum 'n' Fun! – 2,620 / 613,725
27. [NSW] Fishing Spirits: Nintendo Switch Version – 2,577 / 604,827
28. [NSW] Human: Fall Flat – 2,447 / 168,897
29. [NSW] Dragon Quest XI S (New Price Version) – 2,274 / 122,574
30. [NSW] Super Mario Maker 2 – 2,256 / 1,116,046
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Tasty on August 13, 2021, 09:46:35 AM
They got some smart cookies working at that there Nintendo, I'll tell ya.
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: bork on August 13, 2021, 10:36:06 AM
Kinda funny that the number one game, beating out Zelda, is a Microsoft title.  :P
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Svejk on August 13, 2021, 11:12:38 AM
Quote from: bork on August 13, 2021, 10:36:06 AM
Kinda funny that the number one game, beating out Zelda, is a Microsoft title.  :P
(https://c.tenor.com/4UveVXCbRdAAAAAM/puke-barf.gif)
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Tasty on August 13, 2021, 01:12:24 PM
:lol
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Nintex on August 13, 2021, 01:16:20 PM
We got a classic bomba

23. [NSW] NEO: The World Ends with You – 3,229 / 22,028
Title: Re: Next-Gen Sales Thread |OT| We already sold all the sales. Sorry.
Post by: Tasty on August 13, 2021, 01:49:32 PM
I think/hope US sales are better.
Title: Sales Bore | Media Create Sales: Week 36, 2021 (NO STAFF POST)
Post by: Nintex on September 20, 2021, 01:22:41 PM
With the collapse of SalesAge and SalesEra we welcome our sales brehs to the Bore.  :heart

We have exclusive sales numbers and charts with full numbers and analysis.

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+-------+------------+------------+------------+------------+------------+-------------+
|System |  This Week |  Last Week |  Last Year |     YTD    |  Last YTD  |     LTD     |
+-------+------------+------------+------------+------------+------------+-------------+
| NSW # |     67.114 |     60.942 |     83.920 |  3.778.286 |  3.773.514 |  21.118.660 |
| PS5 # |     16.975 |     17.075 |            |    774.481 |            |   1.029.631 |
| XBS # |      2.089 |      2.605 |            |     56.566 |            |      87.990 |
| PS4 # |      1.763 |      1.431 |      2.161 |     94.018 |    469.086 |   9.384.908 |
| 3DS # |        789 |        746 |        849 |     22.084 |     43.756 |  24.580.992 |
+-------+------------+------------+------------+------------+------------+-------------+
|  ALL  |     88.730 |     82.799 |     86.965 |  4.725.435 |  4.289.442 |  57.375.021 |
+-------+------------+------------+------------+------------+------------+-------------+
|  PS5  |     14.847 |     15.580 |            |    655.646 |            |     862.268 |
| PS5DE |      2.128 |      1.495 |            |    118.835 |            |     167.363 |
| XBS X |        351 |      1.259 |            |     33.675 |            |      58.551 |
| XBS S |      1.738 |      1.346 |            |     22.891 |            |      29.439 |
| NSW L |     10.937 |     11.088 |     30.458 |    980.884 |  1.569.005 |   4.052.976 |
|  NSW  |     56.177 |     49.854 |     53.462 |  2.797.402 |  2.204.509 |  17.065.684 |
|  PS4  |      1.763 |      1.431 |        435 |     93.794 |    290.906 |   7.809.185 |
|n-2DSLL|        789 |        746 |        824 |     22.084 |     41.180 |   1.186.047 |
+-------+------------+------------+------------+------------+------------+-------------+

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Famitsu Sales: Week 37, 2021 (Sep 06 - Sep 12)

01./00. [PS4] Tales of Arise # <RPG> (Bandai Namco Entertainment) {2021.09.09} (¥7.980) - 151.316 / NEW <80-100%>
02./00. [NSW] WarioWare: Get It Together! <ETC> (Nintendo) {2021.09.10} (¥4.980) - 72.277 / NEW <40-60%>
03./00. [PS5] Tales of Arise # <RPG> (Bandai Namco Entertainment) {2021.09.09} (¥7.980) - 50.482 / NEW <80-100%>
04./01. [NSW] Ring Fit Adventure # <HOB> (Nintendo) {2019.10.18} (¥7.980) - 14.628 / 2.818.859 <80-100%> (-6%)
05./02. [NSW] Mario Kart 8 Deluxe <RCE> (Nintendo) {2017.04.28} (¥5.980) - 13.863 / 4.039.388 <80-100%> (-11%)
06./03. [NSW] Minecraft # <ADV> (Microsoft Game Studios) {2018.06.21} (¥3.600) - 13.529 / 2.180.811 <80-100%> (-5%)
07./04. [NSW] Momotaro Dentetsu: Showa, Heisei, Reiwa mo Teiban! <TBL> (Konami) {2020.11.19} (¥6.300) - 8.749 / 2.367.610 <80-100%> (-15%)
08./05. [NSW] Super Smash Bros. Ultimate # <FTG> (Nintendo) {2018.12.07} (¥7.200) - 8.428 / 4.416.060 <80-100%> (-13%)
09./00. [NSW] Ys IX: Monstrum Nox <RPG> (Nippon Ichi Software) {2021.09.09} (¥6.980) - 7.324 / NEW <60-80%>
10./08. [NSW] Pokemon Sword / Shield # <RPG> (Pokemon Co.) {2019.11.15} (¥5.980) - 7.012 / 4.135.212 <80-100%> (-10%)
11./07. [NSW] Super Mario 3D World + Bowser's Fury <ACT> (Nintendo) {2021.02.12} (¥5.980) - 6.920 / 879.622 <80-100%> (-12%)
12./00. [PS4] NBA 2K22 # <SPT> (Take-Two Interactive Japan) {2021.09.10} (¥7.000) - 6.291 / NEW <60-80%>
13./09. [NSW] Clubhouse Games: 51 Worldwide Classics <ETC> (Nintendo) {2020.06.05} (¥3.980) - 5.775 / 794.275 <80-100%> (-1%)
14./11. [NSW] Animal Crossing: New Horizons # <ETC> (Nintendo) {2020.03.20} (¥5.980) - 5.195 / 6.877.928 <80-100%> (-9%)
15./10. [NSW] Super Mario Party # <ETC> (Nintendo) {2018.10.05} (¥5.980) - 4.814 / 1.987.103 <80-100%> (-16%)
16./14. [NSW] Splatoon 2 # <ACT> (Nintendo) {2017.07.21} (¥5.980) - 4.781 / 3.940.324 <80-100%> (+11%)
17./00. [NSW] NBA 2K22 <SPT> (Take-Two Interactive Japan) {2021.09.10} (¥6.000) - 4.401 / NEW <40-60%>
18./13. [NSW] Game Builder Garage <EDU> (Nintendo) {2021.06.11} (¥3.164) - 4.317 / 233.438 <80-100%> (-6%)
19./15. [NSW] The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild # <ADV> (Nintendo) {2017.03.03} (¥6.980) - 3.683 / 1.872.140 <80-100%> (-11%)
20./06. [PS4] Tsukihime: A Piece of Blue Glass Moon # <ADV> (Aniplex) {2021.08.26} (¥7.000) - 3.368 / 77.478 <80-100%> (-58%)
21./26. [NSW] Monster Hunter Rise # <ACT> (Capcom) {2021.03.26} (¥7.990) - 3.340 / 2.321.703 <80-100%> (+16%)
22./18. [NSW] Miitopia <SLG> (Nintendo) {2021.05.21} (¥4.980) - 3.278 / 243.053 <80-100%> (-10%)
23./17. [NSW] eBaseball Professional Baseball Spirits 2021: Grand Slam <SPT> (Konami) {2021.07.08} (¥6.980) - 3.015 / 189.057 <80-100%> (-25%)
24./23. [NSW] Fitness Boxing 2: Rhythm & Exercise <HOB> (Imagineer) {2020.12.03} (¥5.800) - 2.949 / 143.966 <80-100%> (-2%)
25./16. [NSW] Tsukihime: A Piece of Blue Glass Moon # <ADV> (Aniplex) {2021.08.26} (¥7.000) - 2.941 / 79.302 <80-100%> (-29%)
26./00. [PS4] F1 2021 <RCE> (Electronic Arts) {2021.09.09} (¥7.909) - 2.734 / NEW <40-60%>
27./00. [NSW] Sonic Colors: Ultimate # <ACT> (Sega) {2021.09.09} (¥3.990) - 2.689 / NEW <20-40%>
28./27. [NSW] Mario Golf: Super Rush <SPT> (Nintendo) {2021.06.25} (¥5.980) - 2.641 / 182.579 <80-100%> (+8%)
29./20. [NSW] The Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword HD <ADV> (Nintendo) {2021.07.16} (¥5.980) - 2.592 / 263.674 <80-100%> (-20%)
30./28. [NSW] New Super Mario Bros. U Deluxe <New Super Mario Bros. U \ New Super Luigi U> <ACT> (Nintendo) {2019.01.11} (¥5.980) - 2.515 / 1.093.933 <80-100%> (+9%)

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US NPD TOP 5 SEPTEMBER
XSX - Call of Duty - 189,009
XSX - GTAV - 90,382
PS4 - Madden 2021 - 78,299
NSW - Mario Kart 8: Deluxe - 23,004
NSW - Animal Crossing 10,404

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EU GSD TOP 5 SEPTEMBER
PC - Farming Simulator - 899,233
PC - GTAV - 100,323
PS4 - FIFA 2021 - 50,323
NSW - Mario Kart 8: Deluxe - 23,302
NSW - Animal Crossing - 10,876

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Afghanistan AFGI TOP 5 September
PS2 - Need for Speed: Underground 2 - 159
PS2 - Tenchu - 139
PS2 - Final Fantasy X - 94
XBX - HALO - 23
GBA - Hamtaro Ham Ham Adventures - 4

This is probably the last week we will have numbers from this region

Events to watch:
- Release of Metroid Dread
- Release of Call of Duty (this game could do really well, it is pretty popular)
- Release of Hentai Gaiden No Densetsu (we keep track of all game sales including X-rated titles)
- Big secret Microsoft acquisition
- Switch Pro


We got some motherfuckn charts brehs  :mynicca

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Title: Re: Sales Bore | Media Create Sales: Week 36, 2021 (NO STAFF POST)
Post by: BIONIC on September 20, 2021, 02:02:22 PM
Do you have the link to the discord?

I have some hot Splatoon sales I’d like to share  :rash
Title: Re: Sales Bore | Media Create Sales: Week 36, 2021 (NO STAFF POST)
Post by: Tasty on September 20, 2021, 02:40:24 PM
:snore
Title: Re: Sales Bore | Media Create Sales: Week 36, 2021 (NO STAFF POST)
Post by: Nintex on September 20, 2021, 03:46:31 PM
Quote from: BIONIC on September 20, 2021, 02:02:22 PM
Do you have the link to the discord?

I have some hot Splatoon sales I’d like to share  :rash
That sounds like anecdotal evidence what is the source of those sales.  :thinking
Title: Re: Sales Bore | Media Create And Other Sale Numbers |OT|
Post by: team filler on September 20, 2021, 10:39:56 PM
nintendo is winning  :rejoice
Title: Re: Sales Bore | Media Create And Other Sale Numbers |OT|
Post by: james on September 22, 2021, 01:54:59 PM
Wait, NPD numbers, with real numbers?

What is this sorcery
Title: Re: Sales Bore | Media Create And Other Sale Numbers |OT|
Post by: team filler on September 22, 2021, 02:18:44 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/8Ngaj4F.gif)
Title: Re: Sales Bore | Media Create Sales: Week 36, 2021 (NO STAFF POST)
Post by: BIONIC on September 22, 2021, 02:25:52 PM
Quote from: Nintex on September 20, 2021, 03:46:31 PM
Quote from: BIONIC on September 20, 2021, 02:02:22 PM
Do you have the link to the discord?

I have some hot Splatoon sales I’d like to share  :rash
That sounds like anecdotal evidence what is the source of those sales.  :thinking

Deez nuts. Haha goteem.
Title: Re: Sales Bore | Media Create And Other Sale Numbers |OT|
Post by: Joe Molotov on November 04, 2021, 11:14:56 AM
https://www.gematsu.com/2021/11/switch-worldwide-sales-top-92-87-million-the-legend-of-zelda-skyward-sword-hd-tops-3-6-million

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The 10 best-selling first-party Switch titles are:

Mario Kart 8 Deluxe – 38.74 million
Animal Crossing: New Horizons – 34.85 million
Super Smash Bros. Ultimate – 25.71 million
The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild – 24.13 million
Pokemon Sword / Pokemon Shield – 22.64 million
Super Mario Odyssey – 21.95 million
Super Mario Party – 16.48 million
Pokemon: Let’s Go, Pikachu! / Pokemon: Let’s Go, Eevee! – 13.83 million
Splatoon 2 – 12.68 million
Ring Fit Adventure – 12.21 million
Nintendo also announced additional sales numbers, including the first official numbers for The Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword HD.

Super Mario 3D World + Bowser’s Fury – 7.45 million
The Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword HD – 3.6 million (New)
New Pokemon Snap – 2.19 million (New)
Mario Golf: Super Rush – 1.94 million (New)

Sheeeeeeeeeeeesh
Title: Re: Sales Bore | Media Create And Other Sale Numbers |OT|
Post by: team filler on November 04, 2021, 01:03:15 PM
skyward sword  :)
Title: Re: Sales Bore | Media Create And Other Sale Numbers |OT|
Post by: Joe Molotov on November 04, 2021, 01:43:35 PM
It's sold more on the Switch than it did on the Wii.
Title: Re: Sales Bore | Media Create And Other Sale Numbers |OT|
Post by: Potato on November 04, 2021, 07:39:32 PM
I don't think anyone could have predicted in 2017 that a WiiU re-release and Animal Crossing would both easily blow through 35m copies sold and not look like slowing down in the slightest.

Or that a Zelda game would top 25m!
Title: Re: Sales Bore | Media Create And Other Sale Numbers |OT|
Post by: team filler on November 04, 2021, 09:04:21 PM
 :rejoice
Title: Re: Sales Bore | Media Create And Other Sale Numbers |OT|
Post by: Tasty on January 07, 2022, 09:36:39 AM
https://kotaku.com/the-nintendo-switch-outsold-every-other-console-combine-1848314676
Title: Re: Sales Bore | Media Create And Other Sale Numbers |OT|
Post by: Great Rumbler on January 07, 2022, 03:51:48 PM
Quote from: Tasty on January 07, 2022, 09:36:39 AM
https://kotaku.com/the-nintendo-switch-outsold-every-other-console-combine-1848314676

Pretty sure this has been true for way more than just this past year.
Title: Re: Sales Bore | Media Create And Other Sale Numbers |OT|
Post by: Sho Nuff on January 18, 2022, 03:55:28 AM
Sonic Generations is $4.99 on the MS store and the backcompat on the Series X is cranked to 60fps/4K, fuckin nuts looking
Title: Re: Sales Bore | Media Create And Other Sale Numbers |OT|
Post by: Tasty on February 03, 2022, 11:15:13 AM
Switch Outsells Wii And PlayStation 1, Passes 100 Million Faster Than Any Other Home Console (https://www.ign.com/articles/nintendo-switch-100-million-sales-outsells-wii)
Title: Re: Sales Bore | Media Create And Other Sale Numbers |OT|
Post by: Rahxephon91 on February 03, 2022, 11:21:01 AM
Don’t get it but ok.
Title: Re: Sales Bore | Media Create And Other Sale Numbers |OT|
Post by: team filler on February 03, 2022, 01:19:21 PM
Quote from: Rahxephon91 on February 03, 2022, 11:21:01 AM
Don’t get it but ok.
:miyamoto
Title: Re: Sales Bore | Media Create And Other Sale Numbers |OT|
Post by: Svejk on February 03, 2022, 01:45:13 PM
Who needs quality when you got quantity?  :biden
Title: Re: Sales Bore | Media Create And Other Sale Numbers |OT|
Post by: Potato on February 03, 2022, 02:58:47 PM
Lol some real Gamer™ vibes in here.
Title: Re: Sales Bore | Media Create And Other Sale Numbers |OT|
Post by: Rahxephon91 on February 03, 2022, 05:56:28 PM
Yes in the sales thread from the Nintendo fans.
Title: Re: Sales Bore | Media Create And Other Sale Numbers |OT|
Post by: Potato on February 03, 2022, 06:09:00 PM
Quote from: Rahxephon91 on February 03, 2022, 05:56:28 PM
Yes in the sales thread from the Nintendo fans.
:derp

Quote from: Rahxephon91 on February 03, 2022, 11:21:01 AM
Don’t get it but ok.

Quote from: Svejk on February 03, 2022, 01:45:13 PM
Who needs quality when you got quantity?  :biden

 :shaking
Title: Re: Sales Bore | Media Create And Other Sale Numbers |OT|
Post by: Nintex on February 03, 2022, 06:41:11 PM
https://twitter.com/MatPiscatella/status/1489320074712272896 (https://twitter.com/MatPiscatella/status/1489320074712272896)

I told y'all their yields would be terrible for quite some time at those clock speeds :trumps
Title: Re: Sales Bore | Media Create And Other Sale Numbers |OT|
Post by: Potato on February 03, 2022, 06:48:09 PM
Is the demand going to really be there though?

Seems like Sony just getting ahead of the downturn in demand due to the recent M$ acquisitions.
Title: Re: Sales Bore | Media Create And Other Sale Numbers |OT|
Post by: Nintex on February 03, 2022, 07:00:26 PM
Quote from: Potato on February 03, 2022, 06:48:09 PM
Is the demand going to really be there though?

Seems like Sony just getting ahead of the downturn in demand due to the recent M$ acquisitions.
Demand is there, they have a stellar line-up coming up with Gran Turismo and some other things and still lots of fans haven't been able to buy it yet.
The bigger question is how long people are willing to wait and if Microsoft can stay ahead with production and thus promotions.

Considering the big acquisitions won't bear fruit anytime soon, whoever gets their supply issues fixed first will win this generation.
The fact that they have to cut down supply for the fiscal year also means we won't see a PS5 Slim until at least later in 2023.
Title: Re: Sales Bore | Media Create And Other Sale Numbers |OT|
Post by: Potato on February 03, 2022, 07:16:58 PM
I think Sony are in trouble honestly.

The Series S, as hamstrung as it is by its limitations, turned into the most accidental masterstroke of all. Gives people a cheap and available entry point.

The PS5 is only getting less desirable and less available. Every day that goes by that someone who wants one can't get one is one day closer to them looking at the XB and seeing that it is available and has a much stronger library with an even stronger potential library.

If the CoD crowd goes to Xbox (and if MS have any brains, they will be able to move them across easily), then the US market will start to resemble the 360/PS3 days with Nintendo as the wildcard.

Europe, as always, is going to be the hard sell for MS.
Title: Re: Sales Bore | Media Create And Other Sale Numbers |OT|
Post by: Rahxephon91 on February 03, 2022, 08:06:42 PM
Less desirable to who? The system is very in demand.

Xbox has a better library? Compared to what? Xbox has been widely available this entire time and hasn't detured PS5 sales.
Title: Re: Sales Bore | Media Create And Other Sale Numbers |OT|
Post by: Potato on February 03, 2022, 09:22:26 PM
Quote from: Rahxephon91 on February 03, 2022, 08:06:42 PM
Less desirable to who? The system is very in demand.

Xbox has a better library? Compared to what? Xbox has been widely available this entire time and hasn't detured PS5 sales.
Settle down there Sony Pony.
Title: Re: Sales Bore | Media Create And Other Sale Numbers |OT|
Post by: Rahxephon91 on February 03, 2022, 09:29:53 PM
As someone who has a series X, why don't you answer the question?
Title: Re: Sales Bore | Media Create And Other Sale Numbers |OT|
Post by: Tasty on February 03, 2022, 09:41:39 PM
Quote from: Rahxephon91 on February 03, 2022, 11:21:01 AM
Don’t get it but ok.

Taking a critical look, probably a third of those sales don't technically count as "home consoles" since they're Switch Lites.

That said, as much as I personally liked the Wii, I'm really happy the Switch has dethroned it. Just an all-around better system, and Nintendo will learn better lessons from the Switch's success I feel.
Title: Re: Sales Bore | Media Create And Other Sale Numbers |OT|
Post by: Potato on February 03, 2022, 09:41:56 PM
Quote from: Rahxephon91 on February 03, 2022, 09:29:53 PM
As someone who has a series X, why don't you answer the question?
But I don't have a Series X.
 :dunno
Title: Re: Sales Bore | Media Create And Other Sale Numbers |OT|
Post by: Tasty on February 03, 2022, 09:52:56 PM
https://twitter.com/thetruebowser/status/1489237330246332418

Man... fucking imagine if Switch passes 1 billion in software sales. Holy shit.
Title: Re: Sales Bore | Media Create And Other Sale Numbers |OT|
Post by: Tasty on February 03, 2022, 09:55:03 PM
Props to PS2, which somehow managed (https://www.sie.com/en/corporate/release/2011/110214.html) 1.52 billion games sold.
Title: Re: Sales Bore | Media Create And Other Sale Numbers |OT|
Post by: Rahxephon91 on February 03, 2022, 10:02:47 PM
Quote from: Potato on February 03, 2022, 09:41:56 PM
Quote from: Rahxephon91 on February 03, 2022, 09:29:53 PM
As someone who has a series X, why don't you answer the question?
But I don't have a Series X.
 :dunno
I do.

So what great library are you talking about?

Title: Re: Sales Bore | Media Create And Other Sale Numbers |OT|
Post by: Potato on February 03, 2022, 10:23:08 PM
Quote from: Rahxephon91 on February 03, 2022, 10:02:47 PM
Quote from: Potato on February 03, 2022, 09:41:56 PM
Quote from: Rahxephon91 on February 03, 2022, 09:29:53 PM
As someone who has a series X, why don't you answer the question?
But I don't have a Series X.
 :dunno
I do.

So what great library are you talking about?
To start with:
I mean, you can't seriously be debating that Sony will have the same breadth and depth of library that MS will this generation. Only a fucking distinguished mentally-challenged fellow would think that.

Anyway, we're getting off topic here. You were saying you "don't get it" when referring to Nintendo smashing through 100 milion.

What is there not to get about the appeal of the Switch to the market and why it has been such a roaring success that you had to enter into a sales thread to fanboy hard with ol' mate Svejk?
Title: Re: Sales Bore | Media Create And Other Sale Numbers |OT|
Post by: Rahxephon91 on February 03, 2022, 10:47:23 PM
All those Bethesda titlies are on PS4.
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I mean, you can't seriously be debating that Sony will have the same breadth and depth of library that MS will this generation. Only a fucking distinguished mentally-challenged fellow would think that.
They didn't for the entire of Xbox One and later half of the 360. Why would that change now? MS has to actually prove this. Just buying shit dosen't deliver anything. Not when its going to take years for these seeds to bear fruit. Nor can I tell where Sony's first-party output will be in years. You'll be lucky if these studios ship one game this gen. What can I tell you and unless you just have an axe to grind(which you seem to), is Sony first party has been much better than MS's offering.

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What is there not to get about the appeal of the Switch to the market and why it has been such a roaring success that you had to enter into a sales thread to fanboy hard with ol' mate Svejk?
Saying this while ignoring that the biggest Nintendo fanboy here posted it, is rather ironic.

And I don't get it, because I don't get the appeal of Nintendo. I have one for the Japanese games and not Nintendo's main offerings. But like the typical Nintendo fan, you responded to someone not liking Gods Gift to Gaming with insults.

And while I know people don't read my posts, this Sony pony accusation thrown at me is always pretty funny. Because when you look at the threads for say Ghost of Tsushima, God of War, most of Sony's offerings, the one with the dissenting opinion is myself.
Title: Re: Sales Bore | Media Create And Other Sale Numbers |OT|
Post by: Potato on February 03, 2022, 11:48:24 PM
 :neogaf


The fanboyism is fucking throbbing in you mate. Go take a cold shower and cool down
Title: Re: Sales Bore | Media Create And Other Sale Numbers |OT|
Post by: Tasty on February 04, 2022, 12:21:01 AM
Quote from: Rahxephon91 on February 03, 2022, 10:47:23 PM
But like the typical Nintendo fan, you responded to someone not liking Gods Gift to Gaming with insults.

I mean if the Bore, and this page specifically are anything to go by, filler Nintex BIONIC Rumbler Joe and me pretty much either ignore you or engage with you honestly... but sure, whatever man...
Title: Re: Sales Bore | Media Create And Other Sale Numbers |OT|
Post by: Potato on February 04, 2022, 12:53:11 AM
Quote from: Rahxephon91 on February 03, 2022, 10:47:23 PM
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What is there not to get about the appeal of the Switch to the market and why it has been such a roaring success that you had to enter into a sales thread to fanboy hard with ol' mate Svejk?
Saying this while ignoring that the biggest Nintendo fanboy here posted it, is rather ironic.
How dare someone post an article about sales figures in the sales thread!!!

(https://c.tenor.com/pO0TcsNV6DoAAAAC/greta-how-dare-you.gif)
Title: Re: Sales Bore | Media Create And Other Sale Numbers |OT|
Post by: Nintex on February 04, 2022, 03:48:39 AM
Nintendo sales walking in like

(https://c.tenor.com/eBEU9NZVYL0AAAAd/greta-thunberg.gif)

Even Metroid did over 2 million :neo

Nintendo totally dominating Japan uncontested and Xbox GamePass will make this a very difficult generation for Sony.
Title: Re: Sales Bore | Media Create And Other Sale Numbers |OT|
Post by: Svejk on February 04, 2022, 10:06:32 AM
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/e6/74/f8/e674f8f4caecba827bfa7f6115bc765e.gif)

Haven't had this much fun since Cee Dubbya One.  :lol
Title: Re: Sales Bore | Media Create And Other Sale Numbers |OT|
Post by: Rahxephon91 on February 04, 2022, 10:33:24 AM
Quote from: Potato on February 04, 2022, 12:53:11 AM
Quote from: Rahxephon91 on February 03, 2022, 10:47:23 PM
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What is there not to get about the appeal of the Switch to the market and why it has been such a roaring success that you had to enter into a sales thread to fanboy hard with ol' mate Svejk?
Saying this while ignoring that the biggest Nintendo fanboy here posted it, is rather ironic.
How dare someone post an article about sales figures in the sales thread!!!

(https://c.tenor.com/pO0TcsNV6DoAAAAC/greta-how-dare-you.gif)
I just call it like it is.

You’re the one getting triggerd by people saying the mildest thing about Nintendo dude.
Title: Re: Sales Bore | Media Create And Other Sale Numbers |OT|
Post by: Rahxephon91 on February 04, 2022, 12:42:48 PM
Quote from: Potato on February 03, 2022, 11:48:24 PM
:neogaf


The fanboyism is fucking throbbing in you mate. Go take a cold shower and cool down
You don’t know what you are talking about.

The only people who are fanboys here are you, filler, and andrex.

It’s ok. You’ll be ok. People not liking your childhood friend is no big deal.
Title: Re: Sales Bore | Media Create And Other Sale Numbers |OT|
Post by: Potato on February 04, 2022, 03:24:27 PM
I know you are, but what am I?
Title: Re: Sales Bore | Media Create And Other Sale Numbers |OT|
Post by: Rahxephon91 on February 04, 2022, 04:03:29 PM
Ignored.
Title: Re: Sales Bore | Media Create And Other Sale Numbers |OT|
Post by: Potato on February 04, 2022, 04:05:51 PM
Quote from: Rahxephon91 on February 04, 2022, 04:03:29 PM
Ignored.
Lol. Fuckhead.
Title: Re: Sales Bore | Media Create And Other Sale Numbers |OT|
Post by: Rahxephon91 on February 04, 2022, 04:21:24 PM
Go suck Nintendo’s cock some more bitch.
Title: Re: Sales Bore | Media Create And Other Sale Numbers |OT|
Post by: Potato on February 04, 2022, 05:14:08 PM
Quote from: Rahxephon91 on February 04, 2022, 04:21:24 PM
Go suck Nintendo’s cock some more bitch.
LOL. Go and have a cry.

Here are some more sales data for you to cry yourself to sleep over.

(https://i.imgur.com/SKLKMj4.png)


(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FKp2I_9XMAIP5Vf?format=png&name=medium)


(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FKp2MJcXoAEKO-d?format=png&name=medium)


(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FKp3vVvXsAQmkrl?format=png&name=large)


(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FKp4vm5XwAIq23M?format=png&name=medium)


Title: Re: Sales Bore | Media Create And Other Sale Numbers |OT|
Post by: Rahxephon91 on February 04, 2022, 06:11:59 PM
Complains about fanboys.

Then makes the biggest fanboy post.

What’s your point? Nintendo games sell well and are successful? Ok. I think everyone knows that. I’m not sure what this proves. Does that mean they’re good? Well I guess if your using the logic of a 12 year old. But then again that would also mean some pretty shitty games and those Sony games you’re triggerd over are also good.

So like what’s your point? I also own a Switch, Dread, and various (bad) Pokemon games so it’s not like I haven’t added to that.
Title: Re: Sales Bore | Media Create And Other Sale Numbers |OT|
Post by: Potato on February 04, 2022, 07:13:53 PM
Ignored
Title: Re: Sales Bore | Media Create And Other Sale Numbers |OT|
Post by: Rahxephon91 on February 04, 2022, 07:36:55 PM
Gotcha. You don’t have one. Just another  Nintendo fanboy.


The video game equivalent of MCU fans.
Title: Re: Sales Bore | Media Create And Other Sale Numbers |OT|
Post by: team filler on February 04, 2022, 09:24:01 PM
nintendo rules, that's why they have the highest sales. simply the best there is, the best there was and the best there ever will be. feels good to be the best  :rejoice
Title: Re: Sales Bore | Media Create And Other Sale Numbers |OT|
Post by: mormapope on February 04, 2022, 11:49:22 PM
The Switch is a perfect complimentary console or platform, an excellent handheld, excellent library of weeb games and indies, great first party content as a whole. Cheaper and more available stock that moves quickly. Great third party support for accessories/controllers.

The momentum for Switch has never stopped. Breath of the Wild 2 will garner a fuck ton of attention and be a GTA level selling game. I give Nintendo props personally for going from the Wii-U to this.
Title: Re: Sales Bore | Media Create And Other Sale Numbers |OT|
Post by: Rahxephon91 on February 05, 2022, 02:21:13 AM
No one said otherwise.
Title: Re: Sales Bore | Media Create And Other Sale Numbers |OT|
Post by: HardcoreRetro on February 05, 2022, 05:01:56 AM
Quote from: Rahxephon91 on January 25, 2022, 03:14:46 PM
It’s just not for you.
Title: Re: Sales Bore | Media Create And Other Sale Numbers |OT|
Post by: Rahxephon91 on February 05, 2022, 08:45:42 AM
You do realize that was a joke post about how people defend the shitty writing in Life is Strange games right?

Anyway I’m fine with the Switch, not for most of the Nintendo games on it though.
Title: Re: Sales Bore | Media Create And Other Sale Numbers |OT|
Post by: tiesto on February 05, 2022, 12:34:28 PM
Switch is my favorite Nintendo system since the almighty SNES.  :rejoice
Title: Re: Sales Bore | Media Create And Other Sale Numbers |OT|
Post by: Svejk on February 05, 2022, 02:08:32 PM
I wish I shared you all's enthusiasm for the Switch.  It's hard for me to not to be underwhelmed by it.  It has a good Zelda, Mario and Metroid, but aren't the best of the series.  The joycons are the gimpest of controllers since the Wii and suck to hold.  Yeah, I could get a pro controller, but it should come with one for the price they charge for this dated device. Only reason I hold on to mine is to wait for BOTW2.  I would say MP4 too, but I have a strong feeling it will be pushed to launch with the Switch successor... For good reason. 

I can see why people gravitate towards it though.  1 - The portability allows for anywhere gaming.. Great for people doing commutes and parents to toss to their children to get them off their backs, stfu, go to your corner and leave me alone.
2 - The first years of launch, it was the village bicycle with every dev dropping a simpleton load on it.  Smart on Nintendo to make it so accessable.  Hence the "vast library of quality games".
3 - The reason I got it, and many others, it's their first party line up.  It's been strong enough to hold it's ground, however, after playing through BOTW, Odyssey and Dread, I find them hardly "Teh best Mario's Zeldass and Metroidzzz". Whoever thinks so should go back and play prior installments again.  Again, they're great... But not the best of Nintendo.  NES, SNES and GC era Nintendo still remains supreme imo.  :)

Anywho, just glad the industry is still going stronger than ever and there's more to come... Just need stupid shit to stay out of it. (But that's a whole other argument)

Title: Re: Sales Bore | Media Create And Other Sale Numbers |OT|
Post by: Rahxephon91 on February 05, 2022, 03:29:04 PM
Quote from: Svejk on February 05, 2022, 02:08:32 PM
I wish I shared you all's enthusiasm for the Switch.  It's hard for me to not to be underwhelmed by it.  It has a good Zelda, Mario and Metroid, but aren't the best of the series.  The joycons are the gimpest of controllers since the Wii and suck to hold.  Yeah, I could get a pro controller, but it should come with one for the price they charge for this dated device. Only reason I hold on to mine is to wait for BOTW2.  I would say MP4 too, but I have a strong feeling it will be pushed to launch with the Switch successor... For good reason. 

I can see why people gravitate towards it though.  1 - The portability allows for anywhere gaming.. Great for people doing commutes and parents to toss to their children to get them off their backs, stfu, go to your corner and leave me alone.
2 - The first years of launch, it was the village bicycle with every dev dropping a simpleton load on it.  Smart on Nintendo to make it so accessable.  Hence the "vast library of quality games".
3 - The reason I got it, and many others, it's their first party line up.  It's been strong enough to hold it's ground, however, after playing through BOTW, Odyssey and Dread, I find them hardly "Teh best Mario's Zeldass and Metroidzzz". Whoever thinks so should go back and play prior installments again.  Again, they're great... But not the best of Nintendo.  NES, SNES and GC era Nintendo still remains supreme imo.  :)

Anywho, just glad the industry is still going stronger than ever and there's more to come... Just need stupid shit to stay out of it. (But that's a whole other argument)
Yep.

I've taken my Switch on flights and my work on Saturdays and it's been good for playing non-graphically interesting games that I'd really want to play on a tv, ports, or just doing some mindless grinding. Also thanks to the controller set-up it's easy to get a Bomberman game going during outside Summer days. Those early ads of people playing at rooftop parties are not lying.

But I have it for the Japanese third-party support and the nontypical Nintendo first-party stuff like Xenoblade or Platnium published stuff. And every time I play them I think my experience would be better if they were on another system. But I mean despite having the worse XB(with 2), its no doubt better than the WiiU.

But Im not a Nintendo faithful and don't care about their first-party output.

But also frankly I think people let Nintendo get away with too much shit.

I mean during the Wii era they were shit at releasing their niche games.

Selling DLC with the toys that they artificially limit is bullshit that if anyone else did they would be run out of town.

The hardware is cheaply made and just super weak and lacking basic features.

Online is garbage.

Top games have bad production values. Sorry, it's 2022, Pokemon should have voice acting and not look like crap.

And to me it just comes back to Nintendo is not what I grew up with and thier vibe is not what I like about video games.



Title: Re: Sales Bore | Media Create And Other Sale Numbers |OT|
Post by: Beezy on February 05, 2022, 04:03:25 PM
Saying that the Mario, Zelda, and Metroid games aren't the best in their franchise doesn't take away from the Switch at all. They're are all old franchises with multiple great games. You can't expect every new addition to be better than the previous games.

Rahx, why does Pokemon need voice acting? Pokemon doesn't need great graphics, but I also think I'd enjoy them more if they did. But I don't see what voice acting would add. The voice acting in BotW felt unnecessary.
Title: Re: Sales Bore | Media Create And Other Sale Numbers |OT|
Post by: Rahxephon91 on February 05, 2022, 06:18:31 PM
Because it has cutscenes. Simple as that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrAMJ7grdvU

If you're going to have the opening like you did with Sword, how do you not have voice acting? If you're going to have me watch and read all this crap, you might as well also voice it. The visuals want to emulate anime, why not also have that effect on the rest of the production?  Hell voice acting in itself is also an accessibility item, beyond also being a thing that if done well adds  another layer of character. If you don't like voice acting you can turn it off. And the reason it doesn't is simply that it would cost money, lets be honest. It's 2022, games have voice acting. When an indie rpg like Disco Elysium can have full voice acting there is no excuse.

Sword and Shield also use soccer as a motif. Yet you don't have say a live broadcasting commentary to your fight or a lively audience that reacts and cheers to what's going on. That yells, "Go Pikachu" when you use one. Like I understand gamers like Potato seem to not think any of this matters as long as the gameplay is good(which it wasn't), but to me games are a sum of their parts. When the presentation fails the experience that's a failure. The minutia of these things is important.
Title: Re: Sales Bore | Media Create And Other Sale Numbers |OT|
Post by: Beezy on February 05, 2022, 06:38:49 PM
Wow, I didn't know that Pokemon games had cutscenes now. :lol
Title: Re: Sales Bore | Media Create And Other Sale Numbers |OT|
Post by: Rahxephon91 on February 05, 2022, 07:16:08 PM
Quote from: Beezy on February 05, 2022, 06:38:49 PM
Wow, I didn't know that Pokemon games had cutscenes now. :lol

I don’t know if your joking. I never played the DS games and the GBC/GBA games are clearly not working in the same space. Sword though is a full console level jrpg and when you have things were one would expect voice or voice can add to the experience it’s a little weird in its absence.
Title: Re: Sales Bore | Media Create And Other Sale Numbers |OT|
Post by: Beezy on February 05, 2022, 09:33:31 PM
I haven't played any of the Switch Pokemon games.
Title: Re: Sales Bore | Media Create And Other Sale Numbers |OT|
Post by: Potato on February 05, 2022, 10:52:19 PM
The best thing about the nerds from Sales-Era/Gaf branching off is that they produce some good charts and comparisons these days.

Easier to see the absolute mental pace the DS set and the crazy way the Switch has just kept going from strength to strength. This data is a little behind as Switch hardware is now over 100 million.

Not sure how much longer it can hold out though. I can see a successor at least being announced this year with a 2023 release date.(https://i.imgur.com/FyLR3Xs.png)
Title: Re: Sales Bore | Media Create And Other Sale Numbers |OT|
Post by: bork on February 07, 2022, 09:10:02 PM
Quote from: Rahxephon91 on February 05, 2022, 07:16:08 PM
Quote from: Beezy on February 05, 2022, 06:38:49 PM
Wow, I didn't know that Pokemon games had cutscenes now. :lol

I don’t know if your joking. I never played the DS games and the GBC/GBA games are clearly not working in the same space. Sword though is a full console level jrpg and when you have things were one would expect voice or voice can add to the experience it’s a little weird in its absence.

We already went over this:

https://nintendoeverything.com/game-freak-on-why-pokemon-sword-shield-doesnt-have-voice-acting/
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“There’s sort of two main reasons, so firstly this is a RPG with a whole lot of text that we’re then localising and releasing in nine different languages at the same time. So from a purely practical point of view actually getting that organised and carrying out all the voice recording, the corrections and so on in nine different languages for release on exactly the same day is something that would be incredibly difficult. So, that’s one reason why we haven’t chosen to do it this time around.

    But the other reason is one of character image, in the sense of when you play a game, if you’ve got a voice on that character that instantly provides to the player an image, a feel for that character that they don’t generate themselves, it’s pushed on them from the development side. Whereas if we have really flavourful text, for those characters, but no voice the players can kind of create their own image of who that character is as they’re playing. And that’s something we really like to encourage as we’re creating games.”

When the anime voices were brought up, Ohmori added:

    “There’s similar linguistic problems – there are some where all of them are the same, such as Pikachu, where that would be fine, but other ones have completely different names across all languages. And another point to consider is that in the game we’re focusing on them as being living creatures, so having them making a sound like a living creature – rather than just shouting out their own name – is quite nice.”

The localization stuff makes sense, but the second reason is just some bullshit.
Title: Re: Sales Bore | Media Create And Other Sale Numbers |OT|
Post by: Rahxephon91 on February 07, 2022, 11:19:42 PM
You're just posting the bullshit PR response. There's nothing stopping them from having the audio be Japanese and English and text for other languages like most releases. Or they could go further and have other voiced languages like Square "somehow" does. They are Nintendo, unlike many of these companies they have multiple localization/regional groups. They have tons of money, resources, and talent to do it. It would be an undertaking(that others are able to do somehow, I mean Assassins Creed has lots of dialogue too).

But we all know why that doesn't happen.
Title: Re: Sales Bore | Media Create And Other Sale Numbers |OT|
Post by: bork on February 08, 2022, 07:30:40 AM
Quote from: Rahxephon91 on February 07, 2022, 11:19:42 PM
You're just posting the bullshit PR response. There's nothing stopping them from having the audio be Japanese and English and text for other languages like most releases. Or they could go further and have other voiced languages like Square "somehow" does. They are Nintendo, unlike many of these companies they have multiple localization/regional groups. They have tons of money, resources, and talent to do it. It would be an undertaking(that others are able to do somehow, I mean Assassins Creed has lots of dialogue too).

But we all know why that doesn't happen.

You're saying what I already did. 

You also keep saying "Nintendo."  Pokemon isn't entirely Nintendo- they own one-third of the Pokemon Company and Game Freak was the developer.  It might explain why the visuals aren't on par with say, Breath Of The Wild.
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Post by: Rahxephon91 on February 08, 2022, 10:06:30 AM
And you posted it again for no reason? We already went over why that interview is crap, so why did you feel the need to post it again?

And who cares? Nintendo is the publisher correct? They are the ones who fund the game, have a vested interests in the production of the game, sign off what the game is going to be, and also would be the ones to handle the localization and release of the game. They could no doubt buff up Game Freak. Correct? So they are to blame.

Maybe Gamefreak would want to add voice acting, but if Nintendo isn’t going to pay for it(which would not surprise me) then it’s not going to happen.
Title: Re: Sales Bore | Media Create And Other Sale Numbers |OT|
Post by: bork on February 08, 2022, 10:43:55 AM
Quote from: Rahxephon91 on February 08, 2022, 10:06:30 AM
And you posted it again for no reason? We already went over why that interview is crap, so why did you feel the need to post it again?

For the same reason you felt the need to post what you said again?

Quote from: Rahxephon91 on February 08, 2022, 10:06:30 AM
And who cares?

Well, you, since you can't stop talking about it.  It's been what- a week now and you're still going on about Pokemon graphics?

Quote from: Rahxephon91 on February 08, 2022, 10:06:30 AM
Nintendo is the publisher correct? They are the ones who fund the game, have a vested interests in the production of the game, sign off what the game is going to be, and also would be the ones to handle the localization and release of the game. They could no doubt buff up Game Freak. Correct? So they are to blame.

Maybe Gamefreak would want to add voice acting, but if Nintendo isn’t going to pay for it(which would not surprise me) then it’s not going to happen.

https://zenmarket.jp/en/blog/post/10040/does-nintendo-own-pokemon
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The Pokémon Company manages the brand, the license, and publishes games. They also operate all the stores that produce the merchandise you know and love.

Nintendo owns 1/3rd of the Pokemon Company and has a stake in Creatures, too, but the developer listed for Legends is Game Freak.  The game box says "The Pokemon Company" on the spine next to Nintendo.

:expert
Title: Re: Sales Bore | Media Create And Other Sale Numbers |OT|
Post by: Rahxephon91 on February 08, 2022, 01:09:12 PM
The Pokemon company is listed as brand management and in charge of the mobile games.

But Nintendo is also mentioned as being involved in qa, distribution, locolization, and so on. I guess we don't know the break down.

But my question is who is providing most of the funding, signs off on the pitches, and makes the release schedule?
Title: Re: Sales Bore | Media Create And Other Sale Numbers |OT|
Post by: bork on February 08, 2022, 01:22:39 PM
Quote from: Rahxephon91 on February 08, 2022, 01:09:12 PM
The Pokemon company is listed as brand management and in charge of the mobile games.

But Nintendo is also mentioned as being involved in qa, distribution, locolization, and so on. I guess we don't know the break down.

But my question is who is providing most of the funding, signs off on the pitches, and makes the release schedule?


My guess is the Pokemon Company.

Edit- NeoGAF still good for something.
https://www.neogaf.com/threads/interview-with-jeffrey-kalles-former-nintendo-employee.75594/

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<Jeff>I helped name a lot of Pokemon in Pokemon Gold and Silver, which is kind of, sort of Development, but outside is a whole different little arena, the Pokemon group.

<Jonathan> They have a special club, or something?

<Jeff> Well, yeah. They kind of underwent different management groups.

<Jonathan> Those Pokemon people wear the black hats.

<Jeff> I’ve got some good stories about the Pokemon group. They’re very protective of their property is what I’ll say. It’s published by Nintendo, but not of Nintendo, it’s definitely Game Freaks, which is the original Japanese Developers. It’s their game, and they let you know it.
Title: Re: Sales Bore | Media Create And Other Sale Numbers |OT|
Post by: Nintex on February 08, 2022, 02:16:51 PM
Quote from: Potato on February 05, 2022, 10:52:19 PM
I can see a successor at least being announced this year with a 2023 release date.
Won't be announced this year, might launch next year but even that is still up in the air.

It depends on Nintendo's game development pipeline more than anything.
They started with the 'launch window', sequels to Mario, Zelda etc. which for once in Nintendo history was actually delivered within the launch window.
Then they move on with expanding the audience with Pokemon, Smash Bros., Fire Emblem, Mario Sports titles and various spin-offs, sequels and remakes.

Finally there is the twilight years, where they coast on Mario Party, a second 3D Mario and projects with a lower priority such as Metroid and a second mainline Zelda release.
They have yet to slow down with software releases, which means they're not holding back for a new system.

All things considered COVID probably delayed all their plans by a year and canned any plans for a Switch Pro.
Overall I think we're looking at a spring 2024 release for Switch 2 at the earliest.
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Post by: bork on February 20, 2022, 11:50:38 PM
https://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2022-02-20-horizon-forbidden-west-is-the-second-biggest-ps5-launch-so-far-uk-boxed-charts

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Horizon: Forbidden West was comfortably the No.1 game in the UK boxed charts, according to the latest GfK figures.

The game is the second biggest PS5 launch so far, behind popular launch game Spider-Man: Miles Morales and just ahead of FIFA 22. Like Spider-Man, the new Horizon was released on both PS4 and PS5. 68% of the boxed sales were on PS5 with the remainder on the older PlayStation.

Forbidden West's launch sales are down 35% compared with its predecessor: 2017's Horizon: Zero Dawn. However, this data does not factor in digital sales, and the download market has accelerated significantly in the last five years. Digital download data will be released later in the week.

Considering the lack of availability of PS5 consoles, we might expect Horizon to rise up and down the charts as more machines become available.

Interesting.  Would have thought it would sell better on the PS4 with the much larger userbase and certainly that for physical copies. 

Do the sales being listed as "down" compared to the original matter when they're not tracking digital sales?
Title: Re: Sales Bore | Media Create And Other Sale Numbers |OT|
Post by: Svejk on February 21, 2022, 09:47:53 AM
Quote from: bork on February 20, 2022, 11:50:38 PM
https://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2022-02-20-horizon-forbidden-west-is-the-second-biggest-ps5-launch-so-far-uk-boxed-charts

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Horizon: Forbidden West was comfortably the No.1 game in the UK boxed charts, according to the latest GfK figures.

The game is the second biggest PS5 launch so far, behind popular launch game Spider-Man: Miles Morales and just ahead of FIFA 22. Like Spider-Man, the new Horizon was released on both PS4 and PS5. 68% of the boxed sales were on PS5 with the remainder on the older PlayStation.

Forbidden West's launch sales are down 35% compared with its predecessor: 2017's Horizon: Zero Dawn. However, this data does not factor in digital sales, and the download market has accelerated significantly in the last five years. Digital download data will be released later in the week.

Considering the lack of availability of PS5 consoles, we might expect Horizon to rise up and down the charts as more machines become available.

Interesting.  Would have thought it would sell better on the PS4 with the much larger userbase and certainly that for physical copies. 

Do the sales being listed as "down" compared to the original matter when they're not tracking digital sales?
I blame cross-gen and being only a year out in New gen... with half the market still trying to upgrade, but can't.  If I were in that boat, I'd skip purchasing this too until I could play it the way it was intended (PS5 and/or PC)...  either that, or too many PS4 peeps were burnt to the 3rd degree with the dubious launch of Cyberpunk and are still skeptical.   

But we all know the true reason why......
spoiler (click to show/hide)
(https://image.api.playstation.com/vulcan/ap/rnd/202110/2000/3UwtyLer3xjXOX2qlhunnvnJ.png)
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Title: Re: Sales Bore | Media Create And Other Sale Numbers |OT|
Post by: naff on February 22, 2022, 10:30:54 PM
Quote from: Svejk on February 21, 2022, 09:47:53 AM
I blame cross-gen and being only a year out in New gen... with half the market still trying to upgrade, but can't.  If I were in that boat, I'd skip purchasing this too until I could play it the way it was intended (PS5 and/or PC)...  either that, or too many PS4 peeps were burnt to the 3rd degree with the dubious launch of Cyberpunk and are still skeptical.   

But we all know the true reason why......
spoiler (click to show/hide)
(https://image.api.playstation.com/vulcan/ap/rnd/202110/2000/3UwtyLer3xjXOX2qlhunnvnJ.png)
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p much all of the above. wouldn't be surprised if digital sales do outstrip physical, but it's kinda baffling. my friends with Horizon all bought digital 'cause they wanted it guaranteed unlocked at midnight release day and work from home/didn't want to travel into town. no-one played it at midnight though, stores were doing early deliverys to arrive on release day (some even got it early!) and they were selling ~35% cheaper ($140nzd on psn vs $94 physical at all the big stores here -_-) and then you can't resell it. fuckin stooooopid
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Post by: bork on February 23, 2022, 07:44:43 AM
Quote from: Svejk on February 21, 2022, 09:47:53 AM
Quote from: bork on February 20, 2022, 11:50:38 PM
https://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2022-02-20-horizon-forbidden-west-is-the-second-biggest-ps5-launch-so-far-uk-boxed-charts

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Horizon: Forbidden West was comfortably the No.1 game in the UK boxed charts, according to the latest GfK figures.

The game is the second biggest PS5 launch so far, behind popular launch game Spider-Man: Miles Morales and just ahead of FIFA 22. Like Spider-Man, the new Horizon was released on both PS4 and PS5. 68% of the boxed sales were on PS5 with the remainder on the older PlayStation.

Forbidden West's launch sales are down 35% compared with its predecessor: 2017's Horizon: Zero Dawn. However, this data does not factor in digital sales, and the download market has accelerated significantly in the last five years. Digital download data will be released later in the week.

Considering the lack of availability of PS5 consoles, we might expect Horizon to rise up and down the charts as more machines become available.

Interesting.  Would have thought it would sell better on the PS4 with the much larger userbase and certainly that for physical copies. 

Do the sales being listed as "down" compared to the original matter when they're not tracking digital sales?
I blame cross-gen and being only a year out in New gen... with half the market still trying to upgrade, but can't.  If I were in that boat, I'd skip purchasing this too until I could play it the way it was intended (PS5 and/or PC)...  either that, or too many PS4 peeps were burnt to the 3rd degree with the dubious launch of Cyberpunk and are still skeptical.   

But we all know the true reason why......
spoiler (click to show/hide)
(https://image.api.playstation.com/vulcan/ap/rnd/202110/2000/3UwtyLer3xjXOX2qlhunnvnJ.png)
[close]

Horizon is supposed to be really good on PS4, I thought- regardless, I'm not sure why you'd think people would skip buying it because Cyberpunk was shitty on consoles.
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Post by: Svejk on February 23, 2022, 09:24:19 AM
Quote from: bork on February 23, 2022, 07:44:43 AM
Quote from: Svejk on February 21, 2022, 09:47:53 AM
Quote from: bork on February 20, 2022, 11:50:38 PM
https://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2022-02-20-horizon-forbidden-west-is-the-second-biggest-ps5-launch-so-far-uk-boxed-charts

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Horizon: Forbidden West was comfortably the No.1 game in the UK boxed charts, according to the latest GfK figures.

The game is the second biggest PS5 launch so far, behind popular launch game Spider-Man: Miles Morales and just ahead of FIFA 22. Like Spider-Man, the new Horizon was released on both PS4 and PS5. 68% of the boxed sales were on PS5 with the remainder on the older PlayStation.

Forbidden West's launch sales are down 35% compared with its predecessor: 2017's Horizon: Zero Dawn. However, this data does not factor in digital sales, and the download market has accelerated significantly in the last five years. Digital download data will be released later in the week.

Considering the lack of availability of PS5 consoles, we might expect Horizon to rise up and down the charts as more machines become available.

Interesting.  Would have thought it would sell better on the PS4 with the much larger userbase and certainly that for physical copies. 

Do the sales being listed as "down" compared to the original matter when they're not tracking digital sales?
I blame cross-gen and being only a year out in New gen... with half the market still trying to upgrade, but can't.  If I were in that boat, I'd skip purchasing this too until I could play it the way it was intended (PS5 and/or PC)...  either that, or too many PS4 peeps were burnt to the 3rd degree with the dubious launch of Cyberpunk and are still skeptical.   

But we all know the true reason why......
spoiler (click to show/hide)
(https://image.api.playstation.com/vulcan/ap/rnd/202110/2000/3UwtyLer3xjXOX2qlhunnvnJ.png)
[close]

Horizon is supposed to be really good on PS4, I thought- regardless, I'm not sure why you'd think people would skip buying it because Cyberpunk was shitty on consoles.
I just thought the average gamer that's unfamiliar with Euro jank and had a poor experience with the PS4 CP, the thought process would be, I'm not getting another open world game till I'm upgraded; regardless of dev reputation. 

As silly as that thought may be, a better reason over that is people are simply struggling and don't have the skrilla to drop on vidyah.  Especially being the start of the year... Don't know about y'all, but everything from rent, internet, insurance, Prime, groceries, etc. All have been hiked.  Inflation is so trill right now.   :doge
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Post by: Svejk on March 13, 2022, 11:19:14 PM
Rise, Tarnished!

https://twitter.com/BenjiSales/status/1502299637297913873
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Post by: Joe Molotov on March 14, 2022, 03:43:31 AM
O Elden Ring!
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Post by: Nintex on March 16, 2022, 08:00:25 PM
Elden Ring sold 12 million in just 3 weeks, outpacing Skyrim, GTAV and a few other titles

https://twitter.com/ELDENRING/status/1504019697909616642 (https://twitter.com/ELDENRING/status/1504019697909616642)

When I look at the overall release schedule I expect it will continue to sell extremely well for a while yet. The other 2022 games that could be this big are probably Starfield, Hogwarts Legacy and BOTW but there are lots of question marks surrounding those.
I also wonder if it will prompt developers to rework games. Is Fable for instance going to be more like BOTW and Elden Ring than what Fable used to be. Will Mass Effect be sci-fi Elden Ring?
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Post by: Nintex on May 19, 2022, 01:25:10 PM
https://twitter.com/AndyPlaytonic/status/1527292703741923332 (https://twitter.com/AndyPlaytonic/status/1527292703741923332)

:pika
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Post by: Pissy F Benny on May 19, 2022, 02:01:26 PM
I'd love to know what the numbers were. 12 xboxes and the 2 PS5's that were in still in stock?
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Post by: Nintex on May 19, 2022, 02:19:02 PM
Quote from: Pissy F Benny on May 19, 2022, 02:01:26 PM
I'd love to know what the numbers were. 12 xboxes and the 2 PS5's that were in still in stock?

The actual numbers

Xbox Series S - 6,120
Xbox Series X - 105

PlayStation 5 (Disc+Digital) - 2,963


YTD is 400k vs. 70k in favor of PS5.
Switch is at 1.8 million for the year.
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Post by: Tasty on May 19, 2022, 07:30:49 PM
Quote from: Nintex on May 19, 2022, 02:19:02 PM
YTD is 400k vs. 70k in favor of PS5.
Switch is at 1.8 million for the year.

(https://i.imgur.com/8dpb6Yy.png)
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Post by: Beezy on May 21, 2022, 05:50:06 AM
Quote from: Nintex on May 19, 2022, 01:25:10 PM
https://twitter.com/AndyPlaytonic/status/1527292703741923332 (https://twitter.com/AndyPlaytonic/status/1527292703741923332)

:pika
Focusing on GamePass and Series S only in Japan makes sense. It could be the perfect secondary console.
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Post by: Nintex on May 21, 2022, 06:16:30 AM
All the S really lacks is a disk drive, if they add that and additional storage it's pretty much all ~95% of the consumers need.
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Post by: Nintex on July 26, 2022, 06:51:26 PM
:drudge
https://twitter.com/tomwarren/status/1552024260872478722 (https://twitter.com/tomwarren/status/1552024260872478722)

oh shit
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Post by: Tasty on July 26, 2022, 06:55:54 PM
What about their Cloud Division?

Also their Ad Tech division is gonna do gangbusters next fiscal year after nabbing Netflix.
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Post by: chronovore on August 06, 2022, 07:06:58 AM
Wow, I'd missed the speculation about MS buying Netflix. Might be time to buy.
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Post by: Nintex on August 06, 2022, 07:20:40 AM
The rumors are true, Netflix is joining Xbox.
You can now watch your favorite shows like The Witcher, Breaking Bad, Castlevania, Resident Evil and my personal favorite The Umbrella Academy, Day 1 on Xbox GamePass.
Creating the ultimate subscription service combining the biggest selection of movies and TV shows with the best selection of video games for console and PC on the planet.

(https://www4.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Phil+Spencer+TOtbPAmgdXxm.jpg)

To celebrate this, Xbox GamePass will be $1 for the coming 6 months for both new and existing subscribers.
Gamers will also have access to the X-Cloud streaming service directly from Office 365 giving hard workers the break they deserve.

This year will be the biggest year of Xbox.

(https://c.tenor.com/-yg0BMY_U2wAAAAC/crowd-cheering-crowd.gif)
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Post by: Raist on August 08, 2022, 04:32:43 PM
Quote from: chronovore on August 06, 2022, 07:06:58 AM
Wow, I'd missed the speculation about MS buying Netflix. Might be time to buy.

I didn't know they pay that well in Japan, surely Netflix can't be cheap.
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Post by: Svejk on August 10, 2022, 11:55:57 AM
https://twitter.com/ZhugeEX/status/1557340150593626112

 :obama :salute
(https://i.gifer.com/origin/a0/a0a61a3e905240c616ee261ed4936e1b_w200.gif)
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Post by: Tasty on August 10, 2022, 03:08:27 PM
A very nice course correction after the PS3.
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Post by: Nintex on August 10, 2022, 06:57:19 PM
PS4 was sort of like a ballsy move. A platform just for games when everyone else was chasing the casuals and TV services. I don't think Sony got enough credit for pulling the console industry back on track.
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Post by: Tasty on August 11, 2022, 10:43:27 AM
Quote from: Nintex on August 10, 2022, 06:57:19 PM
PS4 was sort of like a ballsy move. A platform just for games when everyone else was chasing the casuals and TV services. I don't think Sony got enough credit for pulling the console industry back on track.

I think they were relieved the Wii U launched earlier and failed cause outside VR/AR (even lumping EyeToy into this) their heart just isn't into gimmicks, particularly the ones lifted from Nintendo.

After the blue ocean turned red and the casuals fled to smartphones, it only made sense to focus on your most ardent and profitable consumer market (gamers). Even Nintendo kinda realized this because Wii U and Switch adopted industry-standard controller layouts and they've turned back to focusing mostly on their own fans instead of "growing gaming" or whatever their mantra was 2004-2013 or so.
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Post by: Nintex on August 11, 2022, 01:38:18 PM
Looking at the Switch, 3DS, Kinect and other succesful 'casual' devices and games (Fortnite and Minecraft) I think that Nintendo's Wii U failure significantly accelerated the move to mobile gaming.
Wii U not being called Wii U and having a stronger line-up for both casuals and gamers alike would've made more people upgrade to the new system.
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Post by: Nintex on August 18, 2022, 04:39:40 AM
https://twitter.com/Nibellion/status/1560181839259648000 (https://twitter.com/Nibellion/status/1560181839259648000)

:cruise :japancry :japancry :japancry :japancry :japancry :japancry :japancry :japancry :cruise
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Post by: Svejk on September 01, 2022, 12:26:57 PM
Quote
In the latest in a seemingly endless line of major industry acquisitions, Chinese conglomerate Tencent and Japan’s Sony Interactive Entertainment have collectively bought just over 30% of controlling stock from stellar studio FromSoftware — as announced by FromSoft parent Kadokawa Group.

Tencent subsidiary Sixjoy Hong Kong will take ownership of 16.25% of the purchased shares, while SIE will sire the remaining 14.69%. It is important to note that Kadokawa Group remains the majority shareholder in FromSoftware, owning a huge 69.66% of the Dark Souls studios stock. This “third-party allotment” of shares has been allowed in order to bolster FromSoft’s financial resources, as well as facilitate its growth in overseas territories. The deal is expected to close September 7, 2022.

https://www.destructoid.com/tecent-sony-acquire-fromsoftware-stock-30-percent-kadokawa-group/
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Post by: Nintex on September 12, 2022, 01:55:50 PM
:snob

https://twitter.com/NintendoCoLtd/status/1569212130930622464 (https://twitter.com/NintendoCoLtd/status/1569212130930622464)
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Post by: Potato on September 12, 2022, 03:57:21 PM
Is that in Japan alone?

 :mindblown
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Post by: Tasty on September 12, 2022, 11:19:01 PM
ACNH and recent DQs didn't hit that kind of number until the month mark jesus christo
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Post by: Nintex on September 16, 2022, 05:13:14 PM
Nintendo watching the in-depth competition probes for the buy-out of a publisher that skipped their platform for the better half of a decade :iface

(https://www.aroged.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/Nintendo-Switch-took-98-of-the-Japanese-market-in-the.png)

Nintendo watching Sony and Microsoft fight over the remaining 1.8% of the Japanese video game market  :success

Square Enix developers trying to figure out how to port Final Fantasy 16 to Switch  :existential
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Post by: Tasty on September 21, 2022, 02:11:39 PM
NPD Results Show PlayStation 5 Outsold Switch In August (North America) (https://www.nintendolife.com/news/2022/09/npd-results-show-playstation-5-outsold-switch-in-august-north-america)

:pika
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Post by: Beezy on September 21, 2022, 03:44:19 PM
I did not expect to see Kirby on the top 20 of the year list. :o
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Post by: bork on September 22, 2022, 12:50:44 PM
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Famitsu has published its estimated physical game software and hardware sales data for Japan for the week of September 12, 2022 to September 18, 2022.

Dragon Quest X: Rise of the Five Tribes Offline was the highest selling new release of the week, moving 143,836 units for Switch, 48,100 units for PlayStation 4, and 28,371 units for PlayStation 5 for a total of 220,307 opening retail sales.

Splatoon 3 for Switch was still the highest selling overall game of the week, moving an additional 506,610 copies in its second week of sales.

Splatoon outselling a multi-platform Dragon Quest new release.
 :whoo

Can't believe how insanely popular that game is over there.
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Post by: Tasty on September 22, 2022, 01:02:08 PM
The King is dead, long live the King? :uhhh
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Post by: Potato on September 22, 2022, 04:45:44 PM
Including digital sales it's well over 4 million in Japan.
 :whew
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Post by: Svejk on October 19, 2022, 11:56:01 AM
https://twitter.com/DevilMayCry/status/1582748663801335808

Because Itsuno delivers.  :rejoice Dragon's Dogma 2 will win video games.
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Post by: Tasty on October 20, 2022, 11:31:36 AM
Still wanna play the PC version, but wanna start with 1 and 3 first.

Capgods :preach
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Post by: Joe Molotov on November 08, 2022, 10:24:14 AM
Nintendo dropped some new sales figures.

Nintendo Switch has sold 114.33 million units worldwide (as of September 30, 2022)

The 10 best-selling first-party Switch titles are:

Mario Kart 8 Deluxe – 48.41 million
Animal Crossing: New Horizons – 40.17 million
Super Smash Bros. Ultimate – 29.53 million
The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild – 27.79 million
Pokemon Sword / Pokemon Shield – 25.37 million
Super Mario Odyssey – 24.40 million
Super Mario Party – 18.35 million
Pokemon Brilliant Diamond / Pokemon Shining Pearl – 14.92 million
Ring Fit Adventure – 14.87 million
Pokemon: Let’s Go, Pikachu! / Pokemon: Let’s Go, Eevee! – 14.81 million

Nintendo also announced the following additional sales numbers:

Pokemon Legends: Arceus – 13.91 million
Mario Party Superstars – 8.07 million
Splatoon 3 – 7.90 million (New)
Nintendo Switch Sports – 6.15 million
Kirby and the Forgotten Land – 5.27 million
Mario Strikers: Battle League – 2.17 million
Xenoblade Chronicles 3 – 1.72 million (New)
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Post by: bork on November 08, 2022, 03:09:02 PM
https://twitter.com/gamedatalibrary/status/1590003819425173510

 :o
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Post by: Potato on November 08, 2022, 04:56:15 PM
Have circumstances ever conspired so well for any game ever?

Everything just fell into place for that game.
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Post by: Potato on November 08, 2022, 05:00:16 PM
Quote from: Joe Molotov on November 08, 2022, 10:24:14 AM
Nintendo dropped some new sales figures.

Nintendo Switch has sold 114.33 million units worldwide (as of September 30, 2022)
Hardware sales are starting to drop off. I'd say this Christmas is the last hurrah for Switch and next year is going to be way, way down. They really need to be prepping the next hardware for release in the next 12 months.
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Post by: Joe Molotov on November 09, 2022, 09:29:57 AM
Quote from: Potato on November 08, 2022, 05:00:16 PM
Quote from: Joe Molotov on November 08, 2022, 10:24:14 AM
Nintendo dropped some new sales figures.

Nintendo Switch has sold 114.33 million units worldwide (as of September 30, 2022)
Hardware sales are starting to drop off. I'd say this Christmas is the last hurrah for Switch and next year is going to be way, way down. They really need to be prepping the next hardware for release in the next 12 months.

"Surely this year they'll announce the Switch 2!"

Nintendo: "Enjoy this new Nintendo Switch Pikmin Bundle, just in time for Christmas." :miyamoto
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Post by: thetylerrob on November 09, 2022, 01:52:33 PM
Price will be $450. Gaijin inflation, Please understand.   :)
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Post by: Tasty on November 09, 2022, 05:02:51 PM
10-year plan for Switch :preach

2027 for Switch 2 :miyamoto
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Post by: bork on November 23, 2022, 05:44:44 PM
https://twitter.com/Wario64/status/1595544262237487105

Best-selling game, glitches and all. 
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Post by: Potato on November 23, 2022, 05:47:38 PM
Lol, Pokemon fans are the worst...well, aside from Sony Ponies who swear those cinematic walking shit games have amazing stories.
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Post by: Tasty on November 23, 2022, 05:48:32 PM
This franchise is gonna have to hit Sonic 06 levels of rock bottom before people wake up.
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Post by: Nintex on November 23, 2022, 06:04:53 PM
I simply thank the Pokemon fans for funding my Fire Emblems, Xenoblades, Metroids and Zelda's and I hope they enjoy their Pokemon branded Switch and new Pokemon game.  :playa
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Post by: Potato on November 23, 2022, 06:40:38 PM
Quote from: Tasty on November 23, 2022, 05:48:32 PM
This franchise is gonna have to hit Sonic 06 levels of rock bottom before people wake up.
The problem is that the core gameplay of Pokemon remains functional, and even excellent, in spite of the technical issues.

Sonic never adapted to 3D gaming and the core gameplay in the modern era has never been good which allowed for Sonic 06 levels of trash to exist.
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Post by: Joe Molotov on December 01, 2022, 01:36:53 PM
Famitsu has published its estimated physical game software and hardware sales data for Japan for the week of November 21, 2022 to November 27, 2022.

Quote
Software Sales (followed by lifetime sales)

[NSW] Pokemon Scarlet / Pokemon Violet (The Pokemon Company, 11/18/22) – 577,279 (3,114,571)
[NSW] Splatoon 3 (Nintendo, 09/09/22) – 39,322 (3,407,477)
[NSW] Minecraft (Microsoft, 06/21/18) – 11,223 (2,866,629)
[NSW] Mario Kart 8 Deluxe (Nintendo, 04/28/17) – 11,057 (4,917,646)
[PS5] Horizon Forbidden West (SIE, 02/18/22) – 10,107 (112,333)
[NSW] Nintendo Switch Sports (Nintendo, 04/29/22) – 9,682 (783,853)
[NSW] Ace Angler: Fishing Spirits (Bandai Namco, 10/27/22) – 5,414 (44,470)
[NSW] Super Smash Bros. Ultimate (Nintendo, 12/07/18) – 4,478 (5,015,307)
[NSW] Momotaro Dentetsu: Showa, Heisei, Reiwa mo Teiban! (Konami, 11/19/20) – 4,108 (2,743,464)
[NSW] Kirby and the Forgotten Land (Nintendo, 03/25/22) – 3,994 (923,009)
Rankings 11 to 30 will be announced on December 2.

Hardware Sales (followed by lifetime sales)

Switch OLED Model – 99,863 (3,183,702)
PlayStation 5 – 45,530 (1,894,179)
Switch – 32,926 (18,899,449)
Switch Lite – 23,338 (4,993,867)
Xbox Series S – 9,031 (221,450)
PlayStation 5 Digital Edition – 5,390 (297,238)
Xbox Series X – 2,908 (171,548)
PlayStation 4 – 2,220 (7,828,361)
New 2DS LL (including 2DS) – 65 (1,189,250)

Already past 3 million in Japan alone. :dead
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Post by: Pissy F Benny on December 01, 2022, 01:56:38 PM
A lot of people are able to :miyamoto
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Post by: Potato on December 01, 2022, 02:20:33 PM
It's almost like people who obsess about frame rates and resolutions are NOT the target market for Pokemon or something...
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Post by: Tasty on December 01, 2022, 02:49:55 PM
Switch LTD being 26 mil, PS5 being 1.8 mil and PS4 being 7.8 mil really puts the Switch's success in perspective.
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Post by: Joe Molotov on December 01, 2022, 03:59:07 PM
Quote from: Tasty on December 01, 2022, 02:49:55 PM
Switch LTD being 26 mil, PS5 being 1.8 mil and PS4 being 7.8 mil really puts the Switch's success in perspective.

I don't think that includes PS4 Pro figures, which gives it another 2 mil or so, but still even the Vita sold ~6 million units. :japancry
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Post by: Nintex on December 29, 2022, 05:49:49 PM
I thought Sony had stopped selling PS4's but they just dropped a new PS4 500GB + COD: MWII bundle for ~349 Euro,
which is a lousy deal considering 1TB models bundled with games were about ~299 Euro and sometimes even cheaper pre-COVID and you can buy an Xbox Series S right now for < 250 Euro.

spoiler (click to show/hide)
(https://media.s-bol.com/gDBzrkxBVzR9/gKM0BG/1200x1004.jpg)
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Still with the combination of games dropping on Steam, PS4, Switch and even PS4-only ports like Resident Evil 4: Remake there might be some life in the old dog left.
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Post by: Tasty on December 30, 2022, 10:44:37 PM
"What idiot pays for Switch Online or the Expansion Pass?"

https://www.tweaktown.com/news/88898/nintendo-switch-online-made-nearly-1-billion-in-2021/index.html

Quote
According to the data, Nintendo Switch Online made $932 million in 2021 and made up 10-20% of the total multi-game subscription market on consoles. That's up against Xbox Game Pass, which made 30-40% at $2.9 billion revenues, and PlayStation, who made up 40-50% of that market.

Based on public data made available by Nintendo and compiled by TweakTown, the Switch Online service made up 31% of Nintendo's total digital revenues ($3.054 billion) and just 8% of the company's overall dedicated video games earnings ($14.350 billion).

Was always gonna be third place, but a billy in revenue and more subs than Apple TV+... :miyamoto
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Post by: Nintex on January 01, 2023, 02:02:46 PM
https://twitter.com/videogamedeals/status/1609271971753218048 (https://twitter.com/videogamedeals/status/1609271971753218048)

Xbox Series S has moved past the $249 barrier and still isn't sold out.  :doge
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Post by: Joe Molotov on January 01, 2023, 02:11:50 PM
That's because the woke mafia at Microsoft declared War on Christmas by calling it a Holiday pack.
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Post by: HardcoreRetro on January 01, 2023, 02:32:27 PM
Should've made a Kwanzaa-pack. Include a bigger and blacker controller.

"Return of The Duke!"
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Post by: Nintex on January 01, 2023, 02:41:35 PM
Quote from: Joe Molotov on January 01, 2023, 02:11:50 PM
That's because the woke mafia at Microsoft declared War on Christmas by calling it a Holiday pack.
To be fair, it has to be the most unappealing holiday packaging since the Wii IOU vouchers.
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Post by: Tasty on January 01, 2023, 02:53:05 PM
The heck is "Walmart+"
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Post by: Joe Molotov on January 01, 2023, 10:12:06 PM
The newest streaming service that you have to pay $12.99 a month for because they have that one show.
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Post by: Nintex on January 05, 2023, 09:35:46 AM
https://twitter.com/verge/status/1610820173631557632 (https://twitter.com/verge/status/1610820173631557632)

Looks like PlayStation did it again.
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Post by: Joe Molotov on January 05, 2023, 10:09:53 AM
Was there a PS5 shortage? I hadn't noticed.
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Post by: Nintex on January 22, 2023, 01:59:38 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FnGAWfNXEAAhEnP?format=jpg)

This is Xbox Series S+X vs. PS5.

Absolutely brutal.
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Post by: Tasty on January 22, 2023, 06:25:01 PM
June: "Okay, that's not bad-"

July: "Oof"

August: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xYJ63OTMDL4

September+: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JD7xFsEsJ7U
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Post by: Tasty on January 22, 2023, 06:27:42 PM
Just for my own enjoyment someone please add a column for Switch sales
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Post by: Nintex on January 22, 2023, 07:05:17 PM
For Switch the estimate from the sales-age autisties seems to be:

Oct: 250k
Nov: 1m
Dec: 1.5m

no real numbers available.
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Post by: Tasty on January 22, 2023, 10:39:57 PM
So, put together:

PS5XBXNSW
October277,000   260,000        250,000
November     1,328,000     730,0001,500,000
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Post by: HardcoreRetro on January 23, 2023, 04:54:29 AM
Quote from: Nintex on January 22, 2023, 01:59:38 PM
[img]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FnGAWfNXEAAhEnP?format=jpg[img]

This is Xbox Series S+X vs. PS5.

Absolutely brutal.

Is it? Xbox still seems to be selling way better than the doom and gloom would lead you to believe. The way people talk about this shit you'd think it'd sell a pittance of the PS5 sales. Not like 2/3 of the PS5.
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Post by: Nintex on January 24, 2023, 04:29:17 PM
https://twitter.com/DomsPlaying/status/1617991925080133633 (https://twitter.com/DomsPlaying/status/1617991925080133633)

 :whew
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Post by: Nintex on January 24, 2023, 05:23:24 PM
Quote from: HardcoreRetro on January 23, 2023, 04:54:29 AM
Is it? Xbox still seems to be selling way better than the doom and gloom would lead you to believe. The way people talk about this shit you'd think it'd sell a pittance of the PS5 sales. Not like 2/3 of the PS5.
Not really because the US is Xbox strongest market.

In Europe and Japan the PS5 is way ahead so the closer the gap in the US the better for Xbox.
It started out the year very strong too. Especially the Xbox Series S.

Don't forget the pricing as well, Xbox Series S sells for $200 - $250 and Series X was $399 at some point.
PlayStation 5 went up in price to $549 and most units sold were probably $649 or $749 bundles.

We know that the Xbox Series S sells better than the Xbox Series X. So on a 50/50 split Xbox Series X sold 365k at best. However it is more likely that the split is 60/40 or even 70/30 in favor of the Series S.
The current market position for the Xbox seems to be 2nd console for Switch owners or a cheap option to play F2P games like Fortnite, Sea of Thieves and Minecraft.
Xbox is really doing a poor job with marketing and positioning and they cancel things the fans really like (like their backwards compatibility progam).

They seem to be completely lost as to what audience to target. The Minecraft kids and TikTokers ain't gonna buy Starfield.
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Post by: Potato on January 24, 2023, 06:42:37 PM
If I buy into this generation, it's most likely going to be a Series S. Price is way too steep for the PS5/SX and there's pretty much nothing worth paying that entry fee for anyway.

My decision may be affected by the timing/specs of the Switch 2 but, at this point, I am not interested in what Sony/MS are selling.
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Post by: Nintex on January 24, 2023, 07:51:00 PM
Quote from: Potato on January 24, 2023, 06:42:37 PM
If I buy into this generation, it's most likely going to be a Series S. Price is way too steep for the PS5/SX and there's pretty much nothing worth paying that entry fee for anyway.

My decision may be affected by the timing/specs of the Switch 2 but, at this point, I am not interested in what Sony/MS are selling.
That's the argument that MS doesn't put forward enough, you can play Cyberpunk 2077, HALO Infinite, Elden Ring and more on a ~$250 machine.
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Post by: Potato on January 24, 2023, 08:18:16 PM
Quote from: Nintex on January 24, 2023, 07:51:00 PM
Quote from: Potato on January 24, 2023, 06:42:37 PM
If I buy into this generation, it's most likely going to be a Series S. Price is way too steep for the PS5/SX and there's pretty much nothing worth paying that entry fee for anyway.

My decision may be affected by the timing/specs of the Switch 2 but, at this point, I am not interested in what Sony/MS are selling.
That's the argument that MS doesn't put forward enough, you can play Cyberpunk 2077, HALO Infinite, Elden Ring and more on a ~$250 machine.
To be fair, you can play all of those games on the previous generation of consoles too, so why would anyone shell out AU$450+ to play them on a new machine?

This generation sucks balls and is almost completely worthless at this point.
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Post by: HardcoreRetro on January 25, 2023, 05:15:02 AM
Quote from: Potato on January 24, 2023, 08:18:16 PM
Quote from: Nintex on January 24, 2023, 07:51:00 PM
Quote from: Potato on January 24, 2023, 06:42:37 PM
If I buy into this generation, it's most likely going to be a Series S. Price is way too steep for the PS5/SX and there's pretty much nothing worth paying that entry fee for anyway.

My decision may be affected by the timing/specs of the Switch 2 but, at this point, I am not interested in what Sony/MS are selling.
That's the argument that MS doesn't put forward enough, you can play Cyberpunk 2077, HALO Infinite, Elden Ring and more on a ~$250 machine.
To be fair, you can play all of those games on the previous generation of consoles too, so why would anyone shell out AU$450+ to play them on a new machine?

This generation sucks balls and is almost completely worthless at this point.

At least the game that got touted as the first real next-gen game is an absolute banger. (Forspoken)
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Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on January 25, 2023, 02:00:27 PM
Quote from: HardcoreRetro on January 23, 2023, 04:54:29 AM
Quote from: Nintex on January 22, 2023, 01:59:38 PM
[img]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FnGAWfNXEAAhEnP?format=jpg[img]

This is Xbox Series S+X vs. PS5.

Absolutely brutal.

Is it? Xbox still seems to be selling way better than the doom and gloom would lead you to believe. The way people talk about this shit you'd think it'd sell a pittance of the PS5 sales. Not like 2/3 of the PS5.

I suppose a big factor is that Series S is designed to be more affordable and the Xbox Series consoles aren’t as supply restricted as the PS5. It’s not a massacre but it’s a pretty weak showing for the Xbox’s primary market. Neither console is doing that fantastic tbh. Now that the shortages are supposedly over for PS5, this will be a key year to see if Sony can step it up.

Meanwhile Switch continues to print money.
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Post by: Raist on February 10, 2023, 02:32:52 PM
(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/820664964921688144/1073572105683206144/Capture_decran_2023-02-10_a_12.52.10.png?width=762&height=989)


#2 :lol how. :lol
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Post by: Nintex on February 10, 2023, 05:56:49 PM
Same as with Mario Kart 8, when people pick up the PS5 they usually pick up GTA5 too.
It's probably the $20 upgrade that is selling the most.
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Post by: Tasty on February 10, 2023, 07:22:54 PM
MK8DX is almost as impressive.
Title: Re: Sales Bore | Media Create And Other Sale Numbers |OT|
Post by: Nintex on February 10, 2023, 07:27:03 PM
Quote from: Tasty on February 10, 2023, 07:22:54 PM
MK8DX is almost as impressive.
Someone at Nintendo took Arthur Gies' Mario Kart sales pie chart personally
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Post by: team filler on February 10, 2023, 08:24:52 PM
Quote from: Potato on December 01, 2022, 02:20:33 PM
It's almost like people who obsess about frame rates and resolutions are NOT the target market for Pokemon or something...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JVK7piwE3m4

 ;)
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Post by: HardcoreRetro on February 11, 2023, 05:39:20 AM
Quote from: Nintex on February 10, 2023, 07:27:03 PM
Quote from: Tasty on February 10, 2023, 07:22:54 PM
MK8DX is almost as impressive.
Someone at Nintendo took Arthur Gies' Mario Kart sales pie chart personally

You can't mention that and not post the pie chart. Still makes me laugh my ass off.

(https://i0.wp.com/mynintendonews.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/mario_kart_pie_chart.jpg?ssl=1)
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Post by: Nintex on February 21, 2023, 03:33:18 PM
From the Activision take-over hearing.

Look at what the corpo clowns did to our beautiful Xbox :tocry
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fpg9XpTXwAI0Qqx?format=jpg)

Market Share
EU: PS 80 Xbox 20
Worldwide 70/30
Japan 96/4

Looks like Microsoft's strategy is to convince the regulators that the Xbox is literally the SEGA Saturn :lol

The first question should've been: "Why haven't you made a new Banjo Kazooie or PGR yet?"
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Post by: Raist on February 22, 2023, 08:07:34 AM
Man I had no idea Ninty got blasted so hard in Yurop.
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Post by: Nintex on February 22, 2023, 07:46:49 PM
The regulators don't consider Nintendo direct competition to Xbox and PlayStation and Microsoft ran away with that classification.

It's kind of weird though, it would mean that Nintendo owns 100% of whatever market they are considered to be in :idont
The numbers wouldn't differ much in the end I think. The world wide split would probably be something like 45% Nintendo, 40% PlayStation and 15% Xbox.

In Europe it's probably 50% PlayStation / 35% Nintendo / 15% Xbox
Japan 80% Nintendo / 18% PlayStation / 1.5% MegaDrive Mini 2 / 0.5% Xbox
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Post by: team filler on February 22, 2023, 10:47:30 PM
no matter how you slice up the pie, nintendo is winning and I am loving it!  :)
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Post by: Potato on March 24, 2023, 04:31:50 PM
Some pretty severe copium abuse going on in the Sony enthusiast media

https://www.pushsquare.com/news/2023/03/japan-sales-charts-huge-drop-in-ps5-sales-but-still-on-top-just (https://www.pushsquare.com/news/2023/03/japan-sales-charts-huge-drop-in-ps5-sales-but-still-on-top-just)

Quote
Sales of the PS5 console in Japan are down for a second week running, but the system still shifted just enough units to be named the country's best-selling box last week. 34,156 PS5 disc consoles were sold during the week beginning 13th March 2023 while 6,255 PS5 digital editions got bought. The PS5's closest rival was the Nintendo Switch OLED, which it narrowly outsold by exactly 1,004 units.

Imagine being so desperate for a win you use the sku numbers rather than the actual numbers for each console...

totals
Switch: 49,585
PS5: 40,411
[close]

It's also interesting to see how quickly the pent up demand seems to have moved through the system now that it's freely available to buy.
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Post by: Nintex on March 24, 2023, 06:06:13 PM
The power of the PlayStation was always the depth of its library, never the 1 game.

It wouldn't slow down because there was always something to play. It seems like it's heading into classic Nintendo console (GameCube/Wii U) territory, where the system peaks if there's a big game (Final Fantasy this summer) and then drops again.
I think people underestimate the importance of the Switch for the Japanese market. Nintendo rolling out new 4K hardware would probably kill a number of teams and studios like the end of the 3DS era did.

In fact people who told Square Enix to bring over the 'Nintendo exclusives' like Octopath Traveler to more platforms were wrong. Octopath Traveler 2 isn't doing as well as Octopath Traveler without the Nintendo publishing.

For that reason alone I expect the Switch to be supported for another 2 to 3 years at least. There might be something more powerful out or perhaps some way to upscale or easily patch in 'better graphics' but Nintendo isn't going to give up a 99% uncontested market because IGN thinks Zelda TOTK looks too much like BOTW. There's going to be mainly be ports and remasters though.

I wonder how Nintendo feels about the sudden interest in the 3DS and if they might postpone the shutdown after all.
The Wii U online shop is dying with little fanfare but tons of people are buying things on the 3DS eshop right now.
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Post by: Nintex on April 07, 2023, 06:37:13 AM
Soyny: It's a difficult market :fbm

CHADCOM :dice

https://twitter.com/cvxfreak/status/1644227242183254016 (https://twitter.com/cvxfreak/status/1644227242183254016)
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Post by: Nintex on April 12, 2023, 11:50:02 AM
https://twitter.com/Chris_Dring/status/1645724868288081924 (https://twitter.com/Chris_Dring/status/1645724868288081924)

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Post by: Svejk on April 12, 2023, 12:52:44 PM
PS Fif slaying the UK this year so far.   :miyamoto
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Post by: bork on April 12, 2023, 12:55:50 PM
Quote from: Svejk on April 12, 2023, 12:52:44 PM
PS Fif slaying the UK this year so far.   :miyamoto


...Or maybe most of those sales were on PS4.  :P
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Post by: Svejk on April 12, 2023, 03:27:07 PM
Quote from: bork on April 12, 2023, 12:55:50 PM
Quote from: Svejk on April 12, 2023, 12:52:44 PM
PS Fif slaying the UK this year so far.   :miyamoto


...Or maybe most of those sales were on PS4.  :P
(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/981326723213819926/1095333927998214255/Capture_decran_2023-04-11_a_13.05.52.png)
 :miyamoto
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Post by: Nintex on April 12, 2023, 06:06:32 PM
Welp, time for Microsoft to reboot and announce the next Generation of Xbox.

XBOX GPT (codename CORTANA)

An Xbox with a ChatGPT bot built-in and over 20TF of raw CPU power using the latest Ryzen 3D technology, Nvidia RTX Tensor Cores that comes with a controller than can also be used as handheld device within range of the system.
The system will launch with an AI enhanced version of the highly anticipated Starfield, Redfall, Forza and Minecraft Legends. Smart Delivery 2.0 ensures games are delivered even smarter to the Xbox platform. Unfortunately the system is not backwards compatible with other Xbox systems because it is simply too powerful. It costs less than $50 per teraflop and comes in at a launch price of $999 and a 1 month Xbox GamePass AI+ Subscription that will automatically select games for you based on your player history. AI Game Assist will literally play the games so you don't have to, taking care of difficult sections and making games like Elden Ring* enjoyable for everyone. AI matchmaking ensures that when you play SEA OF THIEVES you will be matched with players of your skillset and interests. Many more AI features are coming in the near future, stay tuned!

*Elden Ring is not yet announced for Xbox GPT and is simply an example of a difficult game that would benefit from this new system. Stay tuned for new exciting projects from Xbox GPT Studios.
 
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Post by: MMaRsu on April 13, 2023, 05:43:50 AM
Quote from: Nintex on March 24, 2023, 06:06:13 PM
Octopath Traveler 2

Was never going to be a big seller on any platform. Nobody cares for 16 bit looking jrpg's these days.
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Post by: Potato on April 13, 2023, 07:35:40 AM
Quote from: Svejk on April 12, 2023, 03:27:07 PM
Quote from: bork on April 12, 2023, 12:55:50 PM
Quote from: Svejk on April 12, 2023, 12:52:44 PM
PS Fif slaying the UK this year so far.   :miyamoto


...Or maybe most of those sales were on PS4.  :P
(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/981326723213819926/1095333927998214255/Capture_decran_2023-04-11_a_13.05.52.png)
 :miyamoto
Lol Benji sales
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Post by: Svejk on April 13, 2023, 08:33:47 AM
Quote from: Nintex on April 12, 2023, 06:06:32 PM
Welp, time for Microsoft to reboot and announce the next Generation of Xbox.

XBOX GPT (codename CORTANA)

An Xbox with a ChatGPT bot built-in and over 20TF of raw CPU power using the latest Ryzen 3D technology, Nvidia RTX Tensor Cores that comes with a controller than can also be used as handheld device within range of the system.
The system will launch with an AI enhanced version of the highly anticipated Starfield, Redfall, Forza and Minecraft Legends. Smart Delivery 2.0 ensures games are delivered even smarter to the Xbox platform. Unfortunately the system is not backwards compatible with other Xbox systems because it is simply too powerful. It costs less than $50 per teraflop and comes in at a launch price of $999 and a 1 month Xbox GamePass AI+ Subscription that will automatically select games for you based on your player history. AI Game Assist will literally play the games so you don't have to, taking care of difficult sections and making games like Elden Ring* enjoyable for everyone. AI matchmaking ensures that when you play SEA OF THIEVES you will be matched with players of your skillset and interests. Many more AI features are coming in the near future, stay tuned!

*Elden Ring is not yet announced for Xbox GPT and is simply an example of a difficult game that would benefit from this new system. Stay tuned for new exciting projects from Xbox GPT Studios.
(https://i.imgur.com/C6oi35g.jpg)
"The only thing I don't like about the XBOX GPT, is that it's TOO powerful."
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Post by: team filler on April 13, 2023, 07:40:11 PM
people really valued opinions of dudes like that  :neogaf

or even worse, luke smith  :kermit
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Post by: tiesto on April 13, 2023, 08:00:16 PM
Quote from: MMaRsu on April 13, 2023, 05:43:50 AM
Quote from: Nintex on March 24, 2023, 06:06:13 PM
Octopath Traveler 2

Was never going to be a big seller on any platform. Nobody cares for 16 bit looking jrpg's these days.

Octopath 1 did great and plenty of people still do. Myself included of course.
Just look at everyone who won't stfu about Chained Echoes. Or the scramble to get physicals of the FF Pixel Remasters.
Hell, YosP himself said he'd consider making a new FF pixel based game.
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Post by: Potato on April 13, 2023, 09:37:59 PM
Hot take: Octopath II going multiplatform on day one meant it lost the Nintentards who always buy exclusive third party games day one no matter if they like the genre or not or have any intention of playing.
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Post by: MMaRsu on April 14, 2023, 10:14:52 AM
Quote from: tiesto on April 13, 2023, 08:00:16 PM
Quote from: MMaRsu on April 13, 2023, 05:43:50 AM
Quote from: Nintex on March 24, 2023, 06:06:13 PM
Octopath Traveler 2

Was never going to be a big seller on any platform. Nobody cares for 16 bit looking jrpg's these days.

Octopath 1 did great and plenty of people still do. Myself included of course.
Just look at everyone who won't stfu about Chained Echoes. Or the scramble to get physicals of the FF Pixel Remasters.
Hell, YosP himself said he'd consider making a new FF pixel based game.

Who about what? I have no clue what Chained Echoes even is. That should tell you how much of a hype these games have.
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Post by: MMaRsu on April 14, 2023, 10:15:12 AM
Quote from: team filler on April 13, 2023, 07:40:11 PM
people really valued opinions of dudes like that  :neogaf

or even worse, luke smith  :kermit

Then went on to become a huge shill at Bungie
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Post by: team filler on April 14, 2023, 10:20:33 AM
the entire gaming media were mostly always shills.


I remember dave halverson used to get shit for being too soft in his reviews, but I think he at least genuinely liked the games he rated well. one of the few I can remember that seemed to have a real love for the games he reviewed. never felt like hype, just love for platformers.
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Post by: Nintex on April 14, 2023, 12:45:39 PM
Quote from: Potato on April 13, 2023, 09:37:59 PM
Hot take: Octopath II going multiplatform on day one meant it lost the Nintentards who always buy exclusive third party games day one no matter if they like the genre or not or have any intention of playing.
What struck me most about buying those 2nd hand 3DS games the other day was the save files.
Bravely Default had a 19 hour save on it, which is hardly finished but decent.

Ever Oasis
Lvl 1 00:23
Lvl 4 01:16

Dragon Quest 7
lvl 2 01:45

But the same dude

Dragon Quest 8
lvl 3 01:00

Breh, you hardly played DQ7 why the hell would you buy DQ8  :lol
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Post by: tiesto on April 14, 2023, 03:29:03 PM
Quote from: MMaRsu on April 14, 2023, 10:14:52 AM
Quote from: tiesto on April 13, 2023, 08:00:16 PM
Quote from: MMaRsu on April 13, 2023, 05:43:50 AM
Quote from: Nintex on March 24, 2023, 06:06:13 PM
Octopath Traveler 2

Was never going to be a big seller on any platform. Nobody cares for 16 bit looking jrpg's these days.

Octopath 1 did great and plenty of people still do. Myself included of course.
Just look at everyone who won't stfu about Chained Echoes. Or the scramble to get physicals of the FF Pixel Remasters.
Hell, YosP himself said he'd consider making a new FF pixel based game.

Who about what? I have no clue what Chained Echoes even is. That should tell you how much of a hype these games have.

Indie 16-bit style RPG that was one of the highest ranked games of 2022.

I still haven't played it (waiting for a physical) but anyone in any sort of RPG community has heard countless people evangelizing it. To the point it became tiresome even for someone who likes this.
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Post by: Nintex on April 14, 2023, 04:14:59 PM
I've seen a lot of youtubers cover Chained Echoes calling it the next Xenogears or whatever. It seems like a great game. Sea of Stars is also getting tons of pre-release coverage.
Even small upstart RPG YouTubers easily get 20k followers within weeks, which is not a lot in the grand scheme of things but enough to support their channels and gain traction to grow.

Octopath II was hurt not being a Nintendo exclusive because Nintendo would've put in more marketing effort (especially in the EU).

These type of RPG's usually sell pretty well, not huge million seller Nintendo levels but enough to be very profitable (considering the low development costs). One clear sign is the Trails series, which is doing fantastic compared to when it originally released.
The Atelier games are getting a reprint with the release of Ryza 3. Which is also a series gaining popularity.

I think Square Enix shot themselves in the foot with so many games released in such a short time span though. Many RPG publishers don't seem to realize that there's a lot of overlap between fanbases and franchises.
Most people interested in Octopath II were probably still deep into Fire Emblem Engage when it released. A physical release is also important, RPG players are old school and collectors (obviously).
Not doing a physical release of MegaMan Battle Network in Europe certainly hurts sales.

Steam played a big role in this too, making many of these RPG's much more accessible. MegaMan Battle Network Vol 1. is currently the 8th global top seller on Steam with Vol 2. listing at 24.
If you consider it's just a collection of a bunch of upscaled GBA ROMs that's an impressive showing. Currently ahead of Resident Evil 4 even. 

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Post by: Svejk on April 19, 2023, 09:41:14 AM
https://twitter.com/MatPiscatella/status/1648677630202511361

Shit's only gonna ramp up more when FFXVI drops. 
Just wait till Bloodborne and MGS Remakes get revealed.  :umad
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Post by: HardcoreRetro on April 19, 2023, 02:45:47 PM
I'm waiting for them to remaster The Last of Us a third time.
Title: Re: Sales Bore | Media Create And Other Sale Numbers |OT|
Post by: Potato on April 19, 2023, 04:05:45 PM
Is it time for a God of War Reboot reboot?
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Post by: Nintex on April 22, 2023, 07:04:52 AM
Quite remarkable how Switch continues to beat expectations both on the software and hardware side.
https://twitter.com/Protodude/status/1649635400657297408 (https://twitter.com/Protodude/status/1649635400657297408)
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Post by: Svejk on April 22, 2023, 11:19:02 AM
Sold out?  It wouldn't surprise me if they deliberately cut physical production to prompt that.  Plus to push/manipulate more digital sales.  Still, pretty cool to see gba games sell so well this day and age.  Glad Capcom went thier own collection route rather than letting Nintender shit it out, peanuts and all, on their online jank.
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Post by: Nintex on April 22, 2023, 02:32:38 PM
Quote from: Svejk on April 22, 2023, 11:19:02 AM
Sold out?  It wouldn't surprise me if they deliberately cut physical production to prompt that.  Plus to push/manipulate more digital sales.  Still, pretty cool to see gba games sell so well this day and age.  Glad Capcom went thier own collection route rather than letting Nintender shit it out, peanuts and all, on their online jank.
I don't think they expected this to hit the top of the charts but it did.

It's probably some folks importing copies to Europe (where it has no physical release) but there is more buzz surrounding the game than you would expect, especially because it's landing right between Resident Evil 4: Remake and Tears of the Kingdom.
With that said Ryza 3 also did quite well to the point where there might be a reprint of the first 2 games. It seems like the Switch has build on the trend set by the 3DS that not just Nintendo software sells on Nintendo systems.
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Post by: Nintex on April 24, 2023, 02:39:47 PM
I think Microsoft really underestimates how much GamePass kills the gift, birthday present and impulse buy sales.

https://twitter.com/IconEra_/status/1650444672387493888 (https://twitter.com/IconEra_/status/1650444672387493888)
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Post by: Potato on April 24, 2023, 03:19:00 PM
Quote from: Nintex on April 24, 2023, 02:39:47 PM
I think Microsoft really underestimates how much GamePass kills the gift, birthday present and impulse buy sales.

https://twitter.com/IconEra_/status/1650444672387493888 (https://twitter.com/IconEra_/status/1650444672387493888)
That's gotta hurt when you own the franchise
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Post by: Nintex on April 25, 2023, 04:48:23 PM
In todays episode of fuck around and find out

https://twitter.com/tomwarren/status/1650954341807714311 (https://twitter.com/tomwarren/status/1650954341807714311)
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Post by: Nintex on April 25, 2023, 06:19:44 PM
Ryza 3 is the fastest selling in the series
https://twitter.com/NoisyPixelNews/status/1650507272093573120 (https://twitter.com/NoisyPixelNews/status/1650507272093573120)
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Post by: Joe Molotov on April 27, 2023, 09:27:38 AM
Microsoft topping the Japanese charts last week :rejoice

Software Sales (followed by lifetime sales)

[NSW] Minecraft Legends (Microsoft, 04/18/23) – 13,490 (New)
[NSW] Kirby’s Return to Dream Land Deluxe (Nintendo, 02/24/23) – 7,658 (392,645)
[NSW] Pokemon Scarlet / Pokemon Violet (The Pokemon Company, 11/18/22) – 7,527 (4,998,901)
[NSW] Mario Kart 8 Deluxe (Nintendo, 04/28/17) – 7,416 (5,250,971)
[NSW] Mega Man Battle Network Legacy Collection (Capcom, 04/14/23) – 6,342 (58,717)
[NSW] Splatoon 3 (Nintendo, 09/09/22) – 6,039 (3,991,533)
[NSW] Minecraft (Microsoft, 06/21/18) – 5,838 (3,112,005)
[NSW] Cuphead (Superdeluxe Games, 04/20/23) – 4,085 (New)
[PS4] Resident Evil 4 (Capcom, 03/24/23) – 3,860 (124,496)
[NSW] Nintendo Switch Sports (Nintendo, 04/29/22) – 3,789 (1,060,179)

Hardware Sales (followed by lifetime sales)

Switch OLED Model – 39,763 (4,254,463)
PlayStation 5 – 33,572 (2,899,698)
PlayStation 5 Digital Edition – 8,183 (471,335)
Switch – 7,674 (19,277,706)
Switch Lite – 4,368 (5,281,338)
PlayStation 4 – 789 (7,866,970)
Xbox Series X – 376 (184,959)
New 2DS LL (including 2DS) – 137 (1,191,421)
Xbox Series S – 112 (251,538)
Title: Re: Sales Bore | Media Create And Other Sale Numbers |OT|
Post by: Nintex on April 27, 2023, 10:29:58 AM
Quote
Switch OLED Model – 39,763 (4,254,463)
PlayStation 5 – 33,572 (2,899,698)
PlayStation 5 Digital Edition – 8,183 (471,335)
"PlayStation has the biggest sales combined, no one wants to play Zelda at 30fps on a baby screen."
(https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/1305465310305189889/z74ND-Ch_400x400.jpg)

Quote
Switch OLED Model – 39,763 (4,254,463)
Switch – 7,674 (19,277,706)
Switch Lite – 4,368 (5,281,338)
"Two can play that game gaijin"
(https://i.imgur.com/0fudHa7.jpg)

Quote
Xbox Series X – 376 (184,959)
New 2DS LL (including 2DS) – 137 (1,191,421)
"Arigato Japan, this is the biggest year of Xbox and we're seeing incredible momentum in the Japanese market outselling Nintendo's most popular handheld device by almost 200% and we're also the biggest third party publisher on Nintendo platforms"
(https://i0.wp.com/xboxera.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/11/3567628-xbox_phil_e3_jasonlewisphoto_096.jpg?resize=780%2C470&ssl=1)

Quote
Xbox Series S – 112 (251,538)
New 2DS LL (including 2DS) – 137 (1,191,421)
"I see only very small year for very small Xbox"
(https://i.imgur.com/0fudHa7.jpg)
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Post by: Nintex on April 28, 2023, 05:26:39 PM
https://twitter.com/6d6f636869/status/1651837225938857984 (https://twitter.com/6d6f636869/status/1651837225938857984)

spoiler (click to show/hide)
There weren't any "new" games to buy
[close]

spoiler (click to show/hide)
They probably haven't finished Elden Ring yet
[close]
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Post by: Potato on April 28, 2023, 08:18:56 PM
Absolutely the worst video game generation ever. The fact that people are buying these trashboxes is really concerning.
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Post by: Nintex on April 29, 2023, 05:37:45 AM
Quote from: Potato on April 28, 2023, 08:18:56 PM
Absolutely the worst video game generation ever. The fact that people are buying these trashboxes is really concerning.
Considering the state of the GPU market and PC gaming it's not weird that they just buy better hardware.

It's funny though, I was excited about the Xbox Series X when I bought it right after Christmas 2021. The Xbox One X was already much improved over the Xbox One and it seemed like Microsoft was on the right track again.
The Switch on the other hand, I waited until Splatoon 2 dropped in case it flopped again like the Wii U and I already had BOTW on the Wii U.

Now the Switch evolved into something special. Tons of great new releases and Nintendo has been killing it with all their big IP's and growing others like Metroid, Fire Emblem and Xenoblade.

Meanwhile the Xbox Series X seemingly got worse over time. Especially when it comes to missing out on big new games like Final Fantasy 16 and Silent Hill 2 or even performance. Add in the fact that games got more expensive (70 - 90 Euro, instead of the usual 50 - 60 Euro) and it's a recipe for disaster. The saving grace, the big slate of Xbox first party titles are nowhere to be seen or are dissapointing. HALO Infinite was a fun game but not the ground breaking new HALO or return to form we had been waiting for. Classic franchises like Perfect Dark and Fable are announced but never released. It also doesn't help that publishers like Ubisoft completely dropped the ball. Something I also enjoyed was the great backwards compatibility but they ended adding new titles to that too. The PS5 has many of the same problems but at least has more big exclusive games and the library seems to be growing at a steady pace. It's also getting basically all the third party Switch/PS4 games.
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Post by: chronovore on May 01, 2023, 01:09:53 AM
Quote from: Nintex on April 25, 2023, 04:48:23 PM
In todays episode of fuck around and find out

https://twitter.com/tomwarren/status/1650954341807714311 (https://twitter.com/tomwarren/status/1650954341807714311)

I feel like they're likely leaning on this to make cutbacks, despite the pandemic accounting for an unnatural and brief growth surge in game sales and the general staying-the-fuck-home movement.
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Post by: Nintex on May 09, 2023, 08:14:06 AM
Nintendo dropped their results. Despite Fire Emblem, Xenoblade, Metroid Prime and even Bayo 3 crossing a million in sales Switch has slowed down.

https://twitter.com/vooksdotnet/status/1655834301966221314 (https://twitter.com/vooksdotnet/status/1655834301966221314)

No new hardware expected for another 12 months it seems.
Title: Re: Sales Bore | Media Create And Other Sale Numbers |OT|
Post by: Svejk on May 09, 2023, 08:46:36 AM
Quote from: Nintex on May 09, 2023, 08:14:06 AM
Nintendo dropped their results. Despite Fire Emblem, Xenoblade, Metroid Prime and even Bayo 3 crossing a million in sales Switch has slowed down.

https://twitter.com/vooksdotnet/status/1655834301966221314 (https://twitter.com/vooksdotnet/status/1655834301966221314)

No new hardware expected for another 12 months it seems.
I think at this point, it'd be best they hold off until this supposed Phase 2 of current gen that's about to get going, starts losing it's momentum.  A full-on successor would be WAY more appealing than the yuckitty yuck mid-gen upgrade reveals.  As long as Nintendurrr doesn't shoot themselves in the foot and not allow BC, it should have no problem to continue riding the switch wave.

Now if PS and XB pull out some surprise hand held guns on par with the upper decker, a new handheld war will wage strong.  With GP and PS+, the libraries are both already a powerhouse of content.
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Post by: Nintex on May 09, 2023, 09:32:42 AM
MS is heavily invested in the ROG Ally, I bet Nintendo is watching that closely to see how it performs. Sony and Nintendo seem to be less in competition these days. They don't seem to mind the popular Switch + PS5 combo.

Overall I agree that the ship for a Switch Pro has sailed and a new system needs to be a significant upgrade. With regards to the Switch I think there's still some gas in the tank as software sales are still very strong and even niche titles like Ryza 3 are selling well.
Advance Wars 1+2 has consistently charted high on the eShop also.

The best direction for Nintendo is to just keep pumping out software and make up hardware revenue with other ventures like the movie and theme park. If their margins allow it they should also do some price drops and more agressive sales. Another thing that would help is reprints and repackaging, plenty of early Switch games and Collectors Editions that have since gotten more popular sequels are hard to find now.

With a little effort they can expand the audience for series like Xenoblade, Fire Emblem, Metroid and perhaps even F-Zero into the next generation.
Title: Re: Sales Bore | Media Create And Other Sale Numbers |OT|
Post by: Potato on May 10, 2023, 08:55:08 PM
The day the Switch drops in price, you can mark my words that the Switch 2 will be announced within 3 months.
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Post by: Nintex on May 14, 2023, 02:16:39 PM
Wonder if Nintendo will release launch numbers next week.

https://twitter.com/NinEverything/status/1657744833539375104 (https://twitter.com/NinEverything/status/1657744833539375104)
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Post by: Nintex on May 15, 2023, 03:02:30 PM
https://twitter.com/NinEverything/status/1658158810786332672 (https://twitter.com/NinEverything/status/1658158810786332672)
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Post by: Nintex on May 17, 2023, 10:01:42 AM
https://twitter.com/NintendoUK/status/1658819692553809921 (https://twitter.com/NintendoUK/status/1658819692553809921)

"... and I see it out there, I see commentary, that if you just build great games everything would turn around" - Phil Spencer

Elden Ring sold 20 million since launch, God of War did 10 million in 3 months, Hogwarts Legacy did 12 million in 2 weeks and is now at 15 million.

TOTK did 10 million in 3 days.

Fastest selling Nintendo game in the United States, ever.

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Post by: team filler on July 02, 2023, 06:09:42 AM
where are the sales? I might buy a switch because of the new 2D mario game. I still haven't attempted emulation because I don't want to buy a controller to see if it works on my crap pc  :lol
Title: Re: Sales Bore | Media Create And Other Sale Numbers |OT|
Post by: Joe Molotov on July 27, 2023, 10:35:43 AM
Software Sales (followed by lifetime sales)

[NSW] Pikmin 4 (Nintendo, 07/21/23) – 401,853 (New)
[NSW] The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom (Nintendo, 05/12/23) – 15,616 (1,775,035)
[NSW] Mario Kart 8 Deluxe (Nintendo, 04/28/17) – 10,749 (5,385,022)
[NSW] Nobunaga’s Ambition: Awakening (Koei Tecmo, 07/20/23) – 10,633 (New)
[PS4] Nobunaga’s Ambition: Awakening (Koei Tecmo, 07/20/23) – 10,434 (New)
[NSW] Minecraft (Microsoft, 06/21/18) – 7,512 (3,200,000)
[NSW] Splatoon 3 (Nintendo, 09/09/22) – 6,337 (4,066,350)
[NSW] Nintendo Switch Sports (Nintendo, 04/29/22) – 5,784 (1,131,645)
[PS5] Final Fantasy XVI (Square Enix, 06/22/23) – 4,904 (401,376)
[NSW] Super Smash Bros. Ultimate (Nintendo, 12/07/18) – 4,844 (5,239,500)

Pikmin 4 > Final Fantasy 16
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Post by: Svejk on July 27, 2023, 11:13:33 AM
Yet, Miyamoto doesn't understand why Pikmin isn't gangbusters. Lol

https://www.gamespot.com/articles/miyamoto-theorizes-why-this-nintendo-series-isnt-a-massive-sales-hit/1100-6516181/
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Post by: Svejk on July 27, 2023, 11:21:13 AM
Meanwhile, PS5 just surpassed 40 mil, making Astrobot hit over 40 mil, being the most played PS5 game... surpassing BOTW (Switch and WiiU combined) 29 mil, and Mario Odyssey at 26 mil, in less than half the time frame..

Astrobot > Everything else  :betty
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Except Dragon's Dogma  8)
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Post by: Joe Molotov on July 27, 2023, 12:58:22 PM
Pikmin openings in Japan:

Pikmin 1 (GC, 2001) - 101,299
Pikmin 2 (GC, 2004) - 161,930
Pikmin 3 (WiiU, 2013) - 102,188
Pikmin 3 Deluxe (Switch, 2020) - 171,349
Pikmin 4 (Switch, 2023) - 401,853

stonks
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Post by: Nintex on October 27, 2023, 06:52:17 PM
Nintendo beheaded Sonic in broad daylight

Japanese sales

Super Mario Bros. Wonder = 638634

Sonic Superstars = 4128
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Post by: Joe Molotov on December 07, 2023, 10:21:38 AM
Dragon Quest Monsters 3 is outselling Final Fantasy XVI, AAAA gaming confirmed dead.
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Post by: team filler on December 10, 2023, 11:53:26 AM
sales are all that matters in gaming  8) 8)
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Post by: Nintex on December 27, 2023, 04:02:32 PM
The sales
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GCXfTB7XMAAksbj?format=jpg)

The budgets
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GBvFy2KXoAAGFxB?format=jpg)

The reason why Sony is doubling down on Spider-Man, God of War and Horizon it seems. And why they want Naughty Dog back on AAAA single player games.

The competition

Wii Sports — Wii — 82.90 million
Mario Kart 8 — Wii U/Switch — 65.47 million
Pokémon Red/Green/Blue/Yellow — GB/GBA/VC — 59.52 million
Super Mario Bros. — NES/GBC/GBA/3DS(VC) — 48.24 million
Animal Crossing: New Horizons — Switch — 43.38 million
Pokémon Gold/Silver/Crystal — GBC/DS — 42.21 million
Pokémon Diamond/Pearl/Platinum — DS/Switch — 40.34 million
Pokémon Ruby/Sapphire/Emerald — GBA/3DS — 37.88 million
Mario Kart Wii — Wii — 37.38 million
Tetris — NES/GB — 35.84 million
Wii Sports Resort — Wii — 33.14 million
The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild — Switch/Wii U — 32.85 million
Super Smash Bros. Ultimate — Switch — 32.44 million
New Super Mario Bros. — DS — 30.80 million
New Super Mario Bros. Wii — Wii — 30.32 million
Duck Hunt — NES — 28.31 million
Wii Play — Wii — 28.02 million
Super Mario Odyssey — Switch — 26.95 million
Super Mario World — SNES/GBA — 26.30 million
Pokémon Sword and Shield — Switch — 26.02 million
New Super Mario Bros. U — Wii U/Switch — 25.59 million
Pokémon Sun & Moon — 3DS — 25.09 million
Nintendogs — DS — 23.96 million
Super Mario Bros. 3 — NES/GBA — 23.71 million
Mario Kart DS — DS — 23.60 million
Super Mario 64 — N64/DS — 22.97 million
Wii Fit — Wii — 22.67 million
Pokémon Scarlet and Violet — Switch — 22.10 million
Wii Fit Plus — Wii — 21.13 million
Super Mario Party — Switch — 19.66 million
The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom — Switch — 19.50 million
:miyamoto
Title: Re: Sales Bore | Media Create And Other Sale Numbers |OT|
Post by: Nintex on January 13, 2024, 05:44:39 PM
Top 10 selling games of 2023 in Japan according to Famitsu.
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The Legend of Zelda Tears of the Kingdom (Switch)- 1,929,603
Super Mario Bros. Wonder (Switch) – 1,549,401
Pikmin 4 – (Switch) 1,119,027
Pokémon Scarlet & Violet (Switch) – 907,432 (5,246,363)
Momotaro Dentetsu World (Switch) – 795,681
Mario Kart 8 Deluxe – (Switch) 617,223 (5,631,598)
Kirby’s Return to Dream Land Deluxe (Switch) – 514,581
Dragon Quest Monsters 3: The Dark Prince (Switch) – 510,477
Splatoon 3 (Switch) – 503,312 (4,191,126)
Super Mario RPG (Switch) – 447,687

Quote
Switch – 4,062,609 (31,786,656)
PS5 – 2,587,468 (4,964,857)
Xbox Series X/S – 141,712 (540,107)
PS4 – 73,292 (9,491,059)

Nintendo wins Japan for the 19th year in a row. :miyamoto
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Post by: chronovore on January 26, 2024, 07:29:05 AM
Quote from: Nintex on December 27, 2023, 04:02:32 PM
The reason why Sony is doubling down on Spider-Man, God of War and Horizon it seems. And why they want Naughty Dog back on AAAA single player games.

I think it's one reason we're seeing such a panic in game dev right now as well. There's a lot of "hope" by executive staff that AI will be doing some heavy lifting in the next 2-3 years, and everyone's looking "overstaffed" by that reckoning.
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Post by: Joe Molotov on March 28, 2024, 02:06:28 PM
Software Sales​
[NSW] Princess Peach: Showtime – 77,562 / NEW
[PS5] Dragon's Dogma 2 – 68,592 / NEW
[PS5] Rise of the Ronin – 64,646 / NEW
[NSW] Dragon Quest X Online: The Door to the Future and the Sleeping Girl – 17,919 / NEW
[NSW] Mario Kart 8 Deluxe – 9,276 / 5,758,176
[NSW] Super Mario Bros. Wonder – 8,118 / 1,795,584
[PS4] Dragon Quest X Online: The Door to the Future and the Sleeping Girl – 7,333 / NEW
[PS5] Final Fantasy VII Rebirth – 7,121 / 305,756
[NSW] Mario vs. Donkey Kong – 6,987 / 131,428
[NSW] Minecraft – 6,563 / 3,476,939

Hardware Sales​
Switch OLED – 46,851
Switch Lite – 7,826
Switch – 6,151
PS5 – 24,183
PS5 Digital Edition – 3,605
Xbox Series X – 958
Xbox Series S – 402
PS4 – 250
New 2DS LL – 9

Tired: Triple-A Playstation games
Inspired: Triple-B Nintendo games
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Post by: Svejk on April 25, 2024, 09:23:37 AM
https://twitter.com/Genki_JPN/status/1783396814995194002

 8) Because DD2 is the bee's fucking knees and everyone should be playing it.
I tried to tell Capcom 10 years ago, but they didn't listen.  :kermit