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Title: Apple Basic Bitch Thread
Post by: Tasty on July 04, 2012, 04:44:03 AM
Update 7/30/18: This is now a generic Apple bitch thread. Enjoy.



Original thread title: Fuck you apple

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I have a Galaxy Nexus. It's a pretty good phone.

Apple doesn't want it sold in the US. So now, there's an injunction on it and you can't legally purchase it here right now.

Patent wars are fricking stupid, but aside from feigned indignation at all this (and curiosity at how Google would react) I didn't really care.

But now, in order to be able to sell the Galaxy Nexus again, Google is sending out an emergency OTA patch.

This patch removes functionality Apple claims to have patented. (http://t.co/KaRVK9Mc)

Even though I wanted to ignore what Apple was doing, even though I already bought my device months ago and have been a happy camper, Apple is actively reaching out and crippling my phone and there's nothing I can do about it.

Fuck you Apple. "Hate the game, not the player." That's bullshit. Apple's choosing to impose the injunction, to tie up the courts with glorified patent trolling.

Hey you know what Google's doing with the mountain of patents they got from Motorola? Not fucking suing the dicks off their competitors because they're a competitive threat.

What a slimey, underhanded, spineless shell of a fucking worthless company. Fuck you Apple.
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Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: Shaka Khan on July 04, 2012, 04:49:11 AM
You seem kind of... mad.

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Sent from my iPad
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: fart on July 04, 2012, 04:50:25 AM
i like apples they taste like candy CRUNCH CRUNCH
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: Shaka Khan on July 04, 2012, 04:51:07 AM
In all seriousness though, I've been following the recent developments, and I can't deny how ugly the fight has become. The recent injunctions are a major setback.
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: Tasty on July 04, 2012, 04:52:06 AM
i mad :maf

Because:
- This actually affects me. I was sort of ho-hum on the injunction, thinking it will probably be lifted before the end of the month, but now I (and all other GN owners) are getting screwed over.
- The patent is dumb and shouldn't have bee granted in the first place, and the judge is a moron or on the Apple payroll. I don't know which would be worse.
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: Shaka Khan on July 04, 2012, 04:55:54 AM
The patents being fought over nowadays are becoming more and more abstract and bordering on arbitrary. I have to say, nerfing local searches is kind of scummy, especially since nobody gives a fuck about it on iOS. :lol
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: Tasty on July 04, 2012, 05:00:55 AM
The patents being fought over nowadays are becoming more and more abstract and bordering on arbitrary. I have to say, nerfing local searches is kind of scummy, especially since nobody gives a fuck about it on iOS. :lol

Yeah, and it's even more pathetic that it's the one they're pushing through the courts. Guess they didn't think they could go toe to toe on the telephony stack or other phone stuff (Apple's patent is actually for the feature on a desktop OS.)
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: benjipwns on July 04, 2012, 05:34:54 AM
Modern IP law.  :yuck

Entirely written by corporations, to be abused by corporations. :american

I blame Disney.  :usacry
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: Tasty on July 04, 2012, 06:07:39 AM
Modern IP law.  :yuck

Entirely written by corporations, to be abused by corporations. :american

I blame Disney.  :usacry

Curious, what does Disney have to do with it?
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: MCD on July 04, 2012, 06:23:31 AM
Please wait for Windows Phone 8.
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: benjipwns on July 04, 2012, 06:26:06 AM
For IP in general, basically this kind of thing:
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/2f/Copyright_term.svg)

This is copyright, and Disney has played a major factor in it trying to protect their works. And when they do copyright or trademark, they often do all of IP, including patents.

They even changed the patent system last time around to encourage patent trolls. Rather than whoever comes up with it first, it's now whoever files first.
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: pickle on July 04, 2012, 06:54:44 AM
shocking that a company co-founded and completely shaped by a heinously douchey asshole would turn out to be douchey.

I had hoped Tim Cook would try and alleviate some of that. But apparently not.
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: Momo on July 04, 2012, 07:24:13 AM
+1 Positive point for living in a third world garbage dump
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: Tasty on July 04, 2012, 07:43:20 AM
Apple's the new Oracle as far as I'm concerned. They're halfway there already with this patent trolling BS.
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: benjipwns on July 04, 2012, 07:51:58 AM
Oracle
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1Bg461mnN8#t=45m10s

AN INFORMATION APPLIANCE

A CARDBOARD BOX FULL OF BITS
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: Eric P on July 04, 2012, 08:00:03 AM
shocking that a company co-founded and completely shaped by a heinously douchey asshole would turn out to be douchey.

we talking about disney or apple at this point?
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: benjipwns on July 04, 2012, 08:04:15 AM
we talking about disney or apple at this point?
Knew I should have posted this.

And yes.
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: Tasty on July 04, 2012, 11:38:44 AM
At least the Brits have some sense. (http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=481184)
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: Van Cruncheon on July 04, 2012, 01:03:14 PM
i finally got the ics update for my razr maxx, and finally android seems almost civilized. shame about my galaxy tab 7.7 and honeycomb, though.
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: Diunx on July 04, 2012, 01:45:17 PM
Always hated apple, don't know how people can deal with their distinguished mentally-challenged os.
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: Purple Filth on July 04, 2012, 02:40:04 PM
i mad :maf

Because:
- The patent is dumb and shouldn't have bee granted in the first place, and the judge is a moron or on the Apple payroll. I don't know which would be worse.

I doubt Apple payroll has much to do with it since the Patent system as been fucked for years


Please wait for Windows Phone 8.

Are you working for MS now since you have been shilling windows 8 for a while.  ???
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: Beezy on July 04, 2012, 02:43:23 PM
You've got to be fucking kidding me.
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: Takao on July 04, 2012, 04:01:09 PM
Apple sues Google, Google sues Apple.

RIM inherits the Earth?

NOPE
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: Purple Filth on July 04, 2012, 04:10:23 PM
Apple sues Google, Google sues Apple.

RIM inherits the Earth?

NOPE

Who?
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: Mr. Gundam on July 04, 2012, 04:10:51 PM
Always hated apple, don't know how people can deal with their distinguished mentally-challenged os.

I don't know, but my iPad is pretty cool.
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: Lan on July 04, 2012, 04:37:27 PM
crap, that is why I couldn't buy from the play store... I really wanted a nexus galaxy :(
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: Takao on July 04, 2012, 08:31:10 PM
Apple sues Google, Google sues Apple.

RIM inherits the Earth?

NOPE

Who?

Exactly
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: The Sceneman on July 04, 2012, 10:10:09 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aeXXwQrQiPE
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: Tasty on July 04, 2012, 11:35:20 PM
i finally got the ics update for my razr maxx, and finally android seems almost civilized. shame about my galaxy tab 7.7 and honeycomb, though.

Should have gone for a Nexus 7.
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: Van Cruncheon on July 04, 2012, 11:47:48 PM
i like 4g and a super amoled display, and i like it three months ago
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: recursivelyenumerable on July 05, 2012, 12:17:33 AM
I need to get in on this patent stuff. Think I'll have another six or so shots of espresso and the awesome patentable ideas will start flowin
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: Tasty on July 05, 2012, 12:18:41 AM
i like 4g and a super amoled display, and i like it three months ago

You buy skinned, you get what you get.
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: Eel O'Brian on July 05, 2012, 12:26:52 AM
nexus 7 is skinned
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: Himu on July 05, 2012, 12:28:44 AM
Damn, I can't defend this and this makes me not want an iphone.
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: Tasty on July 05, 2012, 12:58:42 AM
nexus 7 is skinned

Oh?
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: chronovore on July 05, 2012, 01:09:44 AM
Modern IP law.  :yuck

Entirely written by corporations, to be abused by corporations. :american

I blame Disney.  :usacry

:dap
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: Eel O'Brian on July 05, 2012, 01:44:12 AM
nexus 7 is skinned

Oh?

yeah, it's got a portrait-only menu kind of like the kindle fire - i think you can turn it off, though
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: Tasty on July 05, 2012, 02:14:33 AM
nexus 7 is skinned

Oh?

yeah, it's got a portrait-only menu kind of like the kindle fire - i think you can turn it off, though

I believe that's stock behavior.
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: Eel O'Brian on July 05, 2012, 09:28:12 AM
yeah, you're right, they just locked out the tablet home screen and restricted it to the phone interface

you have to root it to turn the tablet home screen back on
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: demi on July 05, 2012, 09:36:23 AM
There's a hilarious amount of butthurt on Google+
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: Tasty on July 05, 2012, 09:44:13 AM
yeah, you're right, they just locked out the tablet home screen and restricted it to the phone interface

you have to root it to turn the tablet home screen back on

Most likely because it's on the lower-end of tablet size. Still a somewhat confusing decision, but Honeycomb left me with a bad taste in my mouth for Android's tablet UI (which is mostly fixed by ICS.) I remember calling Honeycomb "the ugliest version of Android yet." Amazing how they turned that around in ICS to "the most beautiful version of Android yet."

There's a hilarious amount of butthurt on Google+

It's pretty much the best outlet for that sort of thing, considering it's, well, Google's social network and this is Google's primo phone.
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: demi on July 05, 2012, 09:49:38 AM
And it's super hilarious the stuff that comes out.

ANDROID IS BEATING APPLE THEY ARE SCARED

:lol
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: demi on July 05, 2012, 09:53:15 AM
#BoycottApple
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: Eel O'Brian on July 05, 2012, 09:53:35 AM
i don't have a problem with them locking it to the phone interface, cramming all the tablet home screen stuff into a 7 inch screen is kind of awkward and clunky anyway
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: Eel O'Brian on July 05, 2012, 09:56:50 AM
#BoycottApple

being android fans, weren't they already doing that by default?
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: Tasty on July 05, 2012, 10:22:18 AM
i don't have a problem with them locking it to the phone interface, cramming all the tablet home screen stuff into a 7 inch screen is kind of awkward and clunky anyway

Yeah. 10"+ is good for the tablet UI, but the phone UI is fine on a 7"er.
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: chronovore on November 08, 2012, 08:41:26 PM
RISE FROM YO' GWAVE...!

So, here's my contribution to the Fuck Apple movement:
I brought my USA-bought Verizon iPhone 4S to Japan with me, as well as my iPad 2 3G/WiFi.

We went to the KDDI/AU cellphone store last night to try and get a SIM card installed in my US phone, for use in Japan. Apparently it doesn't work that way. Doesn't it work that way in Europe?
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: G The Resurrected on November 08, 2012, 08:56:41 PM
Chronovore that is cause the phone is locked via the CDMA, you actually have to tell Verizon that you are going to go overseas so they release the phone, then you can use any sim in the damn thing.
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: chronovore on November 08, 2012, 09:02:08 PM
Really?

I told Verizon that I was leaving the country, but they didn't mention anything like that. I suspended the phone's service; are you saying that I should be able to use the phone with a new SIM if the CDMA is unlocked?
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: G The Resurrected on November 08, 2012, 09:05:56 PM
Did they even give you a sim? Yes basically they should have suspended it on your phone. Once you turn off the CDMA portion the sim becomes the main connection. Its kind of tricky with the 4s, the 5 is super simple to use that crap. Just call up verizon they should be able to walk you through it.
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: chronovore on November 09, 2012, 12:47:22 AM
Thanks, I'll give that a try.

What about the iPad? Same thing?
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: G The Resurrected on November 09, 2012, 12:58:06 AM
If its the 3g model yes its the same issue.
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: chronovore on November 25, 2012, 11:18:35 PM
OK, so Verizon has unlocked the phone for me. I took it to my cell carrier's store, Au. They put in a micro-SIM to see if it would work, but it just stayed on "Searching..." for a signal.

Online articles state that there's an activation step (http://www.zdnet.com/blog/cell-phones/international-travelers-here-is-how-to-sim-unlock-your-verizon-apple-iphone-4s/6712), the clerks did not mention seeing this dialog/notification appear. Then again, from the linked article, the Verizon rep did not ask me for step #5, I did not turn off my phone, probably because I didn't mention having a new SIM yet.

Should I just "bite" and have Au sell me a SIM, and if it doesn't work, I am just out some yen?


Edit: I've just purchased an AU-specific "shiro-ROM" 4S 16GB to tide me over. It sounds as though I'd have had to go with Docomo or Softbank instead of AU to get my Verizon phone to work.

Thanks again for your advice!
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: chronovore on December 07, 2012, 02:01:38 AM
Spent WAY TOO MUCH TIME today trying to figure out where Apple hid middle-mouse-button config in OS X 10.8

MMB is used for camera control in every single 3D app in the world, but my Mac was using it to switch between applications (think alt-tab), and there was no place to set it. It turns out that the OS recognizes the MMB input in third-party mice, but doesn't provide a place to define the input in System Preferences.

I finally fixed it by plugging in a Mighty Mouse, the only Apple-made 3-button mouse I know of, and then changed the function there. Now ALL MY MICE properly use MMB as "button 3" instead of "Switch Application."

This is the first time I've found something that I could have fixed in FUCKING MOMENTS on a PC, in any version of Windows, but about half my day. :maf
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: chronovore on July 08, 2013, 10:31:10 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/Qi7DcE8.png)

 :mindblown
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: Madrun Badrun on July 08, 2013, 10:34:19 PM
I'm currently making an iOS app.  I agree with the sentiment of this thread.  Bleh. 
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: Diunx on July 09, 2013, 01:31:09 AM
Apple products :lol
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: TakingBackSunday on July 09, 2013, 01:41:08 AM
people who give a shit  :lol
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: Momo on July 09, 2013, 02:25:59 AM
Android Tablet and Phone here. Apple has pissed me off from way before i-shit times, when I had to use their shitty desktops to use physics/math software. Fuck em double.
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: Tasty on July 09, 2013, 02:49:15 AM
awww remember taco-chan?

Who?

(http://cdn.screenpicks.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/VeepAndrewRecap-560x315.jpg)
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: Tasty on July 09, 2013, 02:59:33 AM
???
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: Momo on July 09, 2013, 03:13:06 AM
I always associated you with Takao as well.
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: Raban on July 09, 2013, 03:19:00 AM
i thought of you two like the bobbsey twins

he was freddie and you were flossie

dawwwww
Quote
The Bobbsey Twins are the principal characters of what was, for many years, the Stratemeyer Syndicate's longest-running series of children's novels, penned under the pseudonym Laura Lee Hope. The first of 72 books was published in 1904, the last in 1979, with a separate series of 30 books published from 1987 through 1992.
Goddamn you're old, Oscar. Dropping references to >100-year old characters.
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: Shadow Mod on July 09, 2013, 04:02:32 AM
Android Tablet and Phone here. Apple has pissed me off from way before i-shit times, when I had to use their shitty desktops to use physics/math software. Fuck em double.

They also have like no support for older computers so basically fuck you if you don't update.
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: chronovore on July 09, 2013, 06:59:47 AM
Yeah, and iOS is similar. Upgrade your phone if you want the new iOS. Upgrade your iOS if you want any new apps.
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: Momo on July 09, 2013, 08:25:20 AM
Android Tablet and Phone here. Apple has pissed me off from way before i-shit times, when I had to use their shitty desktops to use physics/math software. Fuck em double.

They also have like no support for older computers so basically fuck you if you don't update.
And sadly for me the modeling software I used only ran on ancient macs
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: TakingBackSunday on July 09, 2013, 04:18:02 PM
Yeah, and iOS is similar. Upgrade your phone if you want the new iOS. Upgrade your iOS if you want any new apps.

 ???

Apple is making iOS7 compatible with 3 year old phones and three year old iPads.  That's well within reason.

And even if you think that's still too soon, Apple's approach prevents fragmentation which is still a big problem on Android.
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: Tasty on July 09, 2013, 04:21:57 PM
Fragmentation on Android isn't a problem if you're not a 14-year old Latino girl who's given the cheapest Android phone her parents think they can get away with.
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: TakingBackSunday on July 09, 2013, 04:23:31 PM
Fragmentation on Android isn't a problem if you're not a 14-year old Latino girl who's given the cheapest Android phone her parents think they can get away with.

Yet there are plenty of companies out there, some of our clients included, that rely on that demographic.  It's just extra hassle on our developers when they can be focusing on exciting new technologies and features on jelly bean.
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: brawndolicious on July 09, 2013, 07:29:35 PM
It's pretty fucking ridiculous when something like Hulu doesn't work on Motorola phones released after the buyout.
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: Tasty on July 09, 2013, 07:45:30 PM
Fragmentation on Android isn't a problem if you're not a 14-year old Latino girl who's given the cheapest Android phone her parents think they can get away with.

Yet there are plenty of companies out there, some of our clients included, that rely on that demographic.  It's just extra hassle on our developers when they can be focusing on exciting new technologies and features on jelly bean.

If you want to reach the biggest market you're always going to have to put extra work in. It's the same deal with browsers and game consoles.
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: Junpei the Tracer! on July 09, 2013, 09:41:04 PM
Yeah what happen to Takao? I don't see him at GAF either.
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on July 09, 2013, 09:41:43 PM
You assholes ran him off.  I hope you're happy.
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: naff on July 10, 2013, 06:53:32 PM
Apple has been fucking shit up ever since Serlet left and the iOS team started running shit. 10.6 was their swansong. Serlet was the true mastermind, screw Jobs
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: AdmiralViscen on July 10, 2013, 07:07:16 PM
I sure hope iOS7 is more "compatible" than iOS6 was on 2-3 year old iPhones. That shit brought my wife's 4 to its knees.

Nice casual racism Andrex
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: chronovore on July 10, 2013, 07:59:06 PM
Yeah, and iOS is similar. Upgrade your phone if you want the new iOS. Upgrade your iOS if you want any new apps.

 ???

Apple is making iOS7 compatible with 3 year old phones and three year old iPads.  That's well within reason.

And even if you think that's still too soon, Apple's approach prevents fragmentation which is still a big problem on Android.

If you're just going to sit there making sense, I don't think this thread has a place for you.
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: Flannel Boy on July 10, 2013, 08:03:17 PM
I hope Apple buys Nintendo.
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on July 10, 2013, 08:17:56 PM
whats a good android tablet? Nexus 7?
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: TakingBackSunday on July 11, 2013, 10:56:29 AM
pretty much the only android tablet you should consider.  its tits.
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: Eel O'Brian on July 11, 2013, 11:00:31 AM
I'm gonna say the Nook HD+. It's currently $149 for the 16GB and $179 for the 32GB since B&N are getting out of the tablet business. MicroSD slot, 1920x1280 9" screen, Bluetooth, etc. The screen is probably the best in class for the size range. They've added the play store and all the google stuff (Chrome, maps, etc) so it's pretty much a regular android tablet once you install a new launcher.
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: Tasty on July 11, 2013, 11:59:12 AM
N7 refresh should be out somewhat soon.

I sure hope iOS7 is more "compatible" than iOS6 was on 2-3 year old iPhones. That shit brought my wife's 4 to its knees.

Nice casual racism Andrex

It was a reference to something when I made it but I forgot what. :lol
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: Polari on July 12, 2013, 05:06:38 PM
Fragmentation on Android isn't a problem if you're not a 14-year old Latino girl who's given the cheapest Android phone her parents think they can get away with.

According to Google's own stats there's far more 14-year old Latino girls with cheap parents than previously realised.

(http://i.imgur.com/4oFBA3D.png)
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: Tasty on July 12, 2013, 05:15:51 PM
The question to be asked is whether people who pay nothing or little up front for phones are worth considering when targeting platform versions. Since they're less likely to monetize well, it's easily possible to focus on 4.0+.
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: Positive Touch on July 12, 2013, 05:25:01 PM
build brand loyalty by not having out-of-date versions be broken and shitty?
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: chronovore on May 30, 2017, 03:08:03 AM
My iPad is nearly 3 years old now.

To support my iPad, I needed a newer version of Xcode. The code/profile/whatever components weren't included, even though my Xcode was installed WAY more recently than my iPad purchase.

To get the new version of Xcode, I needed OS X Sierra.

To get Sierra, I backed up everything and pulled the trigger.

Under default behavior, now my Mac has backed up my Downloads and Documents folder (all my business stuff) into iCloud. When I asked it to stop, it wants to delete my local copies of all that on all my computers (https://www.howtogeek.com/273629/how-to-restore-your-desktop-and-documents-after-disabling-icloud-sync-in-macos-sierra/).

Apparently all I need to do is drag things from my local iCloud instance to their previous designated location. But this is the most ass-backward way to do this. Literally backward: why not delete the instance from iCloud and leave the originals, you know, WHERE THEY ALREADY ARE?
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: brawndolicious on May 30, 2017, 03:25:48 AM
That's actually a very synergistic paradigm shift where their disruption of your obstruction of their abstract abstraction makes everything just work.
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: chronovore on May 30, 2017, 03:34:29 AM
That's actually a very synergistic paradigm shift where their disruption of your obstruction of their abstract abstraction makes everything just work.

I got a big grin, then worried that you might be serious, so it's like a stalled grin. My face is beachballing.
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: chronovore on November 23, 2017, 12:42:02 AM
iOS 11.2.1 update came out today. Recently? I learned my lesson about wireless updates previously, so I connected to my Mac and started the process, of course backing up before letting it do anything.

I check back in 20 minutes, and the damned thing is in Recovery Mode, where it wants to be connected to a Mac with iTunes before it will do anything else. Well, shit, what do you think you're attached to? Then iTunes itself appears to be crashed and unresponsive, but what's actually happening is that iTunes has put its warning dialog on my second monitor, even though nothing else associated with iTunes was on the second monitor. :maf

The iPhone quit mid-restore several more times, and finally it successfully updated on the sixth attempt.

Now it's downloading its previous apps and other contents from wi-fi instead of the local backup because fuck me, I guess.

I need the phone since I'm going to the city tonight for T-day with expats, and also because I've got an appointment at the Apple Store to have them look at my iMac. I don't want to put the old girl down, I think she's still got life in her, but she's been hard-rebooting every 10 minutes or so. I don't expect a computer from 2009 to last forever, so this isn't really a complaint so much as just feeling sad.

Fuck my iPhone 6 though.
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: Tasty on November 23, 2017, 12:44:56 AM
(https://storage.googleapis.com/gweb-uniblog-publish-prod/original_images/Android-Oreo-Transformation.gif)
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: chronovore on November 23, 2017, 07:52:21 PM
Update: I schlepped very heavy my 2009 iMac downtown, and carried it into three different shops which claimed online to do Mac repairs. Only one of them was willing to take it, but said it would take 2-3 weeks for them to repair it, because they'd track down a specific problem, whereas Apple would swap the whole unit out. This is true for iOS devices, but that store is not correct about how Apple handles OS X/macOS devices. I bailed, and went to my appointment.

Instead of staring at me fearfully like the other stores, the Apple staff took the massive machine off my hands, placed it back on their shelf before even confirming my appointment. n.b. I hate the appointment policy at Apple Stores, but it worked for me yesterday; the guy behind the counter spent half an hour with me, going through the various hardware checks they can run and, when those all came back clean, he suggested that I could try rolling back to a previous version of the OS. That sounded like hoodoo, but so far it appears to be working.

I let my iMac run all night, it didn't reboot once. It looks like the old gal has a little life left in her. And the whole boutique experience really ended up working out for me last night.
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: chronovore on November 28, 2017, 08:01:42 PM
https://www.wired.com/story/macos-high-sierra-hack-root/

 :picard
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: nudemacusers on November 28, 2017, 08:06:11 PM
Apple gives users an easy way to get into their computer if they forget a password and everyone loses their minds. Typical overreacting Facebook clickbait buzzfeed libcuck Social Studies Warrior looneytunes stuff.
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: seagrams hotsauce on November 28, 2017, 08:07:20 PM
Yo, I had to lug around a 2007 iMac in a city once and it was a fucking nightmare, I feel your pain. Why'd you go to the other stores first besides the Apple store though? The few experiences I've had with off-site "apple certified" places left me with very negative impressions, but the Apple store has gone smoothly pretty much every time
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: Purple Filth on November 28, 2017, 08:33:29 PM
https://www.wired.com/story/macos-high-sierra-hack-root/

 :picard

that's like some windows 98 press escape on the login screen shit  :lol
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: chronovore on November 28, 2017, 08:33:48 PM
Yo, I had to lug around a 2007 iMac in a city once and it was a fucking nightmare, I feel your pain. Why'd you go to the other stores first besides the Apple store though? The few experiences I've had with off-site "apple certified" places left me with very negative impressions, but the Apple store has gone smoothly pretty much every time
:respect

Via the route I took to reach Shinsaibashi Apple Store, the other shops were less than 100m out of the way. The station at which I arrive neighbors an electronics retail hub. I had 90 minutes, so I figured why not try? Third party places in Japan are less sketchy than the ones I've visited in the USA. At the very least, if they're not sure that they can help, the Japanese clerks will politely demure.

So I wasn't completely sure Apple would even receive the iMac for repair. As it turns out, they wouldn't have been able to help if it were a hardware issue; they only go back 7 years for support. After that, they suggest the customer find a third-party repair solution.  :-\

The bright side is that Apple confirmed nothing wrong with the hardware, and reinstalled a less onerous version of OS X. Since then, it has not rebooted once! It's been running consistently since then. Seriously happy that it was a free "repair" and I don't have to put Ol' Yeller down.
:rejoice
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: Tasty on November 30, 2017, 04:29:53 PM
https://www.wired.com/story/macos-high-sierra-hack-root/

 :picard

:sabu
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: kingv on December 21, 2017, 08:09:37 AM
Confirming what everybody basically already knows.... Apple does indeed throttle the performance of old phones in newer OS updates.... ostensibly to help maintain battery life on older batteries. So you’re 2+ year old iPhone really is a little t slower than it was over time.

http://www.slate.com/articles/technology/technology/2017/12/what_s_wrong_with_apple_slowing_down_older_iphones.html#lf_comment=761236069
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: bork on December 21, 2017, 09:00:03 AM
Just more confirmation that ditching Apple products was the way to go. 
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: chronovore on December 21, 2017, 09:05:00 AM
Just more confirmation that ditching Apple products was the way to go.

Did you read the article?
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: ToxicAdam on December 21, 2017, 09:06:37 AM
Does this apply to Ipads too?

Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: chronovore on December 21, 2017, 09:12:58 AM
Does this apply to Ipads too?

Theoretically, it could. My iPad Air 2 is slower under current (11.2.1?) than it had been. But iPads have sick batteries and CPU compared to the phones, IIRC.
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: archnemesis on December 21, 2017, 09:22:47 AM
I hope they get sued/fined by the EU.
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: kingv on December 21, 2017, 10:49:54 AM
It’s a really crappy policy.

It makes it so that replacing the battery on your iPhone isn’t even really worth it. I’d rather replace my battery for 70 bucks after three years and have snappy performance than for Apple to slowly kill my phone.

Edit: I haven’t noticed my air 2 slowing down much. But iPads have always had longer lifespans than the phones. I suspect my air 2 will go at least a few more years before I feel bothered to replace it.
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: seagrams hotsauce on December 21, 2017, 03:23:17 PM
LMFAO @ ios deleting apps with no notice by default now. What a shitty dumb fucking idea, fuck Tim Cook and fuck this company
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: TVC15 on December 21, 2017, 03:48:10 PM
Does this apply to Ipads too?



I don’t think so. People still use ancient iPads without much complaint. I think from the original story this applies to non-plus sized phones.

iOS 11 on my 7 plus, even after several updates, seems to have killed my battery life by about 25%.
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: Tasty on December 21, 2017, 04:17:28 PM
Gizmodo: Everything Apple Fucked Up This Year
 (https://gizmodo.com/everything-apple-fucked-up-this-year-1821251634)
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: chronovore on December 21, 2017, 06:55:48 PM
LMFAO @ ios deleting apps with no notice by default now. What a shitty dumb fucking idea, fuck Tim Cook and fuck this company
Do you mean deleting from an iOS device any 32b apps which can't run anyway? Or is this something about apps which pass distribution approval and are then reneged?
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: chronovore on December 21, 2017, 06:58:20 PM
It’s a really crappy policy.

It makes it so that replacing the battery on your iPhone isn’t even really worth it. I’d rather replace my battery for 70 bucks after three years and have snappy performance than for Apple to slowly kill my phone.

Edit: I haven’t noticed my air 2 slowing down much. But iPads have always had longer lifespans than the phones. I suspect my air 2 will go at least a few more years before I feel bothered to replace it.

But Apple itself doesn't have a policy for "replace battery." They've got a flat repair rate which covers anything that's wrong with your iOS device, and it's exorbitant enough that a tremendous amount of third-party repair businesses have cropped up. Apple doesn't benefit from replacing batteries, but this "hidden" feature does appear to make their hardware run for longer, but at slower speeds.
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: chronovore on December 21, 2017, 07:04:40 PM
Gizmodo: Everything Apple Fucked Up This Year
 (https://gizmodo.com/everything-apple-fucked-up-this-year-1821251634)

I almost stopped reading that article, because the first items seem like itsnothing.gif bullshittery, but then I kept reading:
Quote
iOS 11 tricks people into thinking Bluetooth and wi-fi turns off
Here’s another rude thing: in the new iOS Control Center, you think you’re turning off Bluetooth and wi-fi by deselecting their icons. But you’re not. Toggling these features into the off position simply disables them. This really pissed off security researchers who believed many users would feel tricked into a false sense of security that their devices weren’t talking to other devices when they actually were.

:holeup
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: bork on December 21, 2017, 07:14:21 PM
Just more confirmation that ditching Apple products was the way to go.

Did you read the article?

Yes.

> Just more confirmation that ditching Apple products was the way to go.

:rollsafe

Honestly, if what happened with my previous iPhone wasn't enough to get me to switch to Android, the shit I've seen this year with the people at my firm and iOS 11 would have done it.  So many problems.

The folks with Android phones?  No issues.  :pimp

The people with Blackberries?  :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl *ahem*
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: kingv on December 21, 2017, 08:59:39 PM
It’s a really crappy policy.

It makes it so that replacing the battery on your iPhone isn’t even really worth it. I’d rather replace my battery for 70 bucks after three years and have snappy performance than for Apple to slowly kill my phone.

Edit: I haven’t noticed my air 2 slowing down much. But iPads have always had longer lifespans than the phones. I suspect my air 2 will go at least a few more years before I feel bothered to replace it.

But Apple itself doesn't have a policy for "replace battery." They've got a flat repair rate which covers anything that's wrong with your iOS device, and it's exorbitant enough that a tremendous amount of third-party repair businesses have cropped up. Apple doesn't benefit from replacing batteries, but this "hidden" feature does appear to make their hardware run for longer, but at slower speeds.

Essentially, I don’t think the idea of throttling the phone to lengthen battery life is batshit stupid, but it should be an option in setttings and not something that is turned on that you can’t turn off. Or at least recommend give some sort of notice like “your battery life is now <75% of a new battery, we recommend replacing the battery at an authorized Apple repair center to avoid tgrottling and unexpected shutdowns. click here to make an appointment.”

Instead it just seems like planned obsolescence to sctively make the older models perform worse than they could. Sure they have an ambivalent explanation, but I’m sure Tim Cook is aware that this has the follow on benefit of making the new phone look even better in comparison.
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: Human Snorenado on December 21, 2017, 09:37:45 PM
Reading back through this thread, chrono sounds like a spousal abuse victim.

You can leave Apple, chrono. I promise it will be ok.
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: chronovore on December 22, 2017, 12:03:23 AM
Reading back through this thread, chrono sounds like a spousal abuse victim.

You can leave Apple, chrono. I promise it will be ok.

:uguu

I've been this close (**holds fingers microns apart**) several times. The one time I bought a refurbished PowerBook, it was the biggest lemon I've ever encountered in 35 years of computing. It had stuff wrong with it all the time, which nearly made me ditch Apple. The little Japan-exclusive Panasonic notebook I had from work was better in every way except the touch-pad.

When I took it in for repairs the first time, I hadn't known that Apple had decided to "Think Different" about turning shit in for repair as well. I'd taken a train and a half-hour walk to the Apple Store in Shinsaibashi, only to be told I couldn't see anyone without an appointment, and without one I'd have to wait 6 hours for the next opening. I just about flipped my goddamned lid.

The next couple of times it went in for repairs, I had my appointment, but they tried to tell me I'd damaged it myself. It had ARRIVED damaged, but they were unwilling to take the blame for it. Apple employees at HQ have been baffled why they didn't just give me a new unit and move on. I think Japan assumed the foreigner (me) was trying to pull a fast one. My loathing increased.

When an old iPod Touch had a headphone jack problem, they offered to repair it for ⅔ the price of a new iPod Touch. There was no other repair option. $2 headphone jack, they wanted $270 to fix it, but they'd give me $50 credit toward a new purchase if I liked. I was struck dumb.

When I tried getting Apple to look at my iPhone 4S, they claimed that there was nothing they could do about its (now legendary) battery life. I've heard the 4S called "The World's Greatest Corded Phone." They offered to let me buy a newer phone for some exhorbitant amount.

Anyway, yeah — I have strong doubts about the Apple ecosystem, and my next computer's going to be a mid-range desktop PC so I can play Steam games and have decent graphic capabilities.
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: seagrams hotsauce on December 22, 2017, 03:55:04 AM
LMFAO @ ios deleting apps with no notice by default now. What a shitty dumb fucking idea, fuck Tim Cook and fuck this company
Do you mean deleting from an iOS device any 32b apps which can't run anyway? Or is this something about apps which pass distribution approval and are then reneged?

No it has this dumb "offload unused apps" option that arbitrarily decides to delete apps from the phone without deleting the icon, putting a little cloud icon next to the app name indicating that it's in the cloud I guess. My phone died playing hearthstone last night and after it restarted guess what? Hearthstone gone for some distinguished mentally-challenged reason
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: chronovore on December 22, 2017, 05:09:51 AM
LMFAO @ ios deleting apps with no notice by default now. What a shitty dumb fucking idea, fuck Tim Cook and fuck this company
Do you mean deleting from an iOS device any 32b apps which can't run anyway? Or is this something about apps which pass distribution approval and are then reneged?

No it has this dumb "offload unused apps" option that arbitrarily decides to delete apps from the phone without deleting the icon, putting a little cloud icon next to the app name indicating that it's in the cloud I guess. My phone died playing hearthstone last night and after it restarted guess what? Hearthstone gone for some distinguished mentally-challenged reason

 :o
Weird. Offload Unused Apps is an opt-in feature by default, and there's no way it should have done that. Nasty.
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: seagrams hotsauce on December 22, 2017, 05:27:33 AM
I don't remember turning it on, but it's possible. It's so weird though, it also unloaded the default Maps app a week or two ago, which I don't use a lot but seems like it would be something permanently installed.
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: chronovore on December 22, 2017, 08:00:02 AM
I don't remember turning it on, but it's possible. It's so weird though, it also unloaded the default Maps app a week or two ago, which I don't use a lot but seems like it would be something permanently installed.

Haha~! Yeah, you've got a bug. There's no way Apple'd be unloading their own app. It's horrible just trying to get rid of Health.app or News.app
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: kingv on December 22, 2017, 09:41:37 AM
Their own maps app is horrid also.

The directions are infinitely worse than google maos
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: thisismyusername on December 22, 2017, 10:10:52 AM
Fragmentation on Android isn't a problem if you're not a 14-year old Latino girl who's given the cheapest Android phone her parents think they can get away with.

According to Google's own stats there's far more 14-year old Latino girls with cheap parents than previously realised.

(http://i.imgur.com/4oFBA3D.png)

4-5 years later and this still applies. :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :doge Googie be slow on getting "Project Treble" up sooner than they did. Shame OEMs are trying to avoid it by releasing more Nougat/7 phones since if they release 8-phones they have to support Treble out of box and that allows folks to just flash a ROM of Stock Android. :doge
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: thisismyusername on December 22, 2017, 10:29:07 AM
On topic though: Despite being Steve's pick, I feel like Jobs would be rolling in his grave in pure anger over how Apple under Cook has turned out. I like Apple, but holy shit there's absolutely no reason to get OS X anymore. :'(


Also $5000 Pro Mac.  :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl They are fucking insane.
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: Himu on December 22, 2017, 10:37:57 AM
This is why I have an iPhone 5s and I haven't updated in like two years. I'm still on ios9.
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: thisismyusername on December 22, 2017, 02:49:25 PM
It kinda sucks Apple has shat the bed like that considering I'm not super happy with Windows. I want a decent CLI but it's awkward on Windows. It's not on Windows, it's on Bash on Ubuntu on Windows. :snoop

Even worse, you can't actually interface with the Windows system without going through a bunch of bullshit to make it like /mount/sdd/c because they separate the two despite New Technology kernel originally supposedly supposed to support non-Windows kernals.

You can't "top" the hung system to kill Windows processes. :'( Task Manager or bust. :'( :'(
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: kingv on December 22, 2017, 02:52:20 PM
Shouldn’t the hung system be the top?
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: Tasty on December 22, 2017, 02:54:30 PM
Shouldn’t the hung system be the top?

That's a common misconception.
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: chronovore on December 29, 2017, 02:38:55 AM
Confirming what everybody basically already knows.... Apple does indeed throttle the performance of old phones in newer OS updates.... ostensibly to help maintain battery life on older batteries. So you’re 2+ year old iPhone really is a little t slower than it was over time.

http://www.slate.com/articles/technology/technology/2017/12/what_s_wrong_with_apple_slowing_down_older_iphones.html#lf_comment=761236069

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/dec/29/apple-apologises-for-slowing-older-iphones-battery-performance

2017: The Year of Unfelt Apologies
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: Mupepe on December 29, 2017, 09:11:25 AM
I got my first iphone this year - an Iphone 8+.  I really like it.  There's a few gripes about some illogical extra steps to do some basic things but so far that's really all.  I'm not big on apps or gaming.  I just surf the web and listen to music/audiobooks.  My last two phones (Nexus 5 and Lumia 950XL) would have a dead battery by about noon, even when new.  I've been putting my phone on the charger at night with 40-60% battery left every night.  I've got no real complaints after about a month of use.

Edit: Wait, I do have a gripe.  Why do all pictures show up in the same damn spot in Photos?  More precisely, why do saved pictures show up in the camera roll in the Camera app?  My one, single eccentricity is that I like to save nudie photos but now if I'm showing someone pictures I've taken then Sunny Leone's tits or Reddit PAWG ass is sitting right next to it.  And you know how motherfuckers love to swipe unprompted.  Any tips on how to get around this shit would be appreciated.
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: Himu on December 29, 2017, 09:40:22 AM
My phones touch screen isn't working so I can't use it :brazilcry
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: thisismyusername on December 29, 2017, 10:44:25 AM
Shouldn’t the hung system be the top?

That's a common misconception.

(https://media.tenor.com/images/056073ce863d6abc27c76aa5c48315f7/tenor.png)

It kinda sucks Apple has shat the bed like that considering I'm not super happy with Windows. I want a decent CLI but it's awkward on Windows. It's not on Windows, it's on Bash on Ubuntu on Windows. :snoop

Even worse, you can't actually interface with the Windows system without going through a bunch of bullshit to make it like /mount/sdd/c because they separate the two despite New Technology kernel originally supposedly supposed to support non-Windows kernals.

You can't "top" the hung system to kill Windows processes. :'( Task Manager or bust. :'( :'(

see that is what i dont get

if i run a linux VM on windows i know what will work and what will not

but this bash on ubuntu thing, you have linux CLI goodies integrated with windows but not quite

how the hell does that make it better? with a VM you know it's nicely separated but with bash on windows you don't know what the hell is going on

It's meant to manage the systems/servers via a Windows UI. Similar to using OS X, but the thing is: OS X is already UNIX (a BSD flavor granted...) so it does a near 1:1 with managing the system AND a fleet of systems like *NIX distros, whereas Windows... doesn't. It just emulates so those that program or whatever on *NIX are "comfortable and can do that on Windows!"
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: chronovore on December 29, 2017, 10:47:54 AM
I got my first iphone this year - an Iphone 8+.  I really like it.  There's a few gripes about some illogical extra steps to do some basic things but so far that's really all.  I'm not big on apps or gaming.  I just surf the web and listen to music/audiobooks.  My last two phones (Nexus 5 and Lumia 950XL) would have a dead battery by about noon, even when new.  I've been putting my phone on the charger at night with 40-60% battery left every night.  I've got no real complaints after about a month of use.

Edit: Wait, I do have a gripe.  Why do all pictures show up in the same damn spot in Photos?  More precisely, why do saved pictures show up in the camera roll in the Camera app?  My one, single eccentricity is that I like to save nudie photos but now if I'm showing someone pictures I've taken then Sunny Leone's tits or Reddit PAWG ass is sitting right next to it.  And you know how motherfuckers love to swipe unprompted.  Any tips on how to get around this shit would be appreciated.

Yeah, Photos.app: it's shit. There's no way other than dividing into Albums, and the interface for sorting photos into albums is not happymaking. The NSFW stuff will still show up if you start browsing in All Photos or Camera Roll for locally saved stuff. I deleted my risqué pictures entirely so they wouldn't be part of my iCloud photo backup. And when I say "risqué," I mean mild stuff that I didn't want showing up on my screensaver if I ever just use my Pictures directory as a screensaver.
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: Mupepe on December 29, 2017, 11:07:04 AM
damn these family friendly companies.  looks like I just won't be showing anyone anything.
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: Himu on December 29, 2017, 12:33:38 PM
Alternatively, play it like Amirox and just not care. ;)
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: chronovore on December 29, 2017, 06:30:43 PM
damn these family friendly companies.  looks like I just won't be showing anyone anything.

Mups gon' mups:
http://mashable.com/2014/09/29/sexting-photo-apps/#3mjROxSYbPqU
http://bgr.com/2015/08/10/iphone-hide-photos-tips-tricks/
https://www.reddit.com/r/iphone/comments/5jfeh0/best_app_for_hiding_nude_photos/

n.b. I finally got curious enough to google, but I haven't tried any of these methods. Looks like the first link is for an older version of iOS, but if the companies have stayed current, it should still work. Keepsafe apparently was still good a year ago.
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: zomgee on December 29, 2017, 09:12:35 PM
It kinda sucks Apple has shat the bed like that considering I'm not super happy with Windows. I want a decent CLI but it's awkward on Windows. It's not on Windows, it's on Bash on Ubuntu on Windows. :snoop

Even worse, you can't actually interface with the Windows system without going through a bunch of bullshit to make it like /mount/sdd/c because they separate the two despite New Technology kernel originally supposedly supposed to support non-Windows kernals.

I *think* the new Insider update fixes this.
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: bork on January 24, 2018, 09:05:42 PM
Finally got my wife to ditch her iPhone and her Pixel 2 is coming tomorrow.  No more Crapple
:rejoice

spoiler (click to show/hide)
I got me a Pixel 2, too.  That shit niiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiice.
[close]
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: Tasty on January 25, 2018, 01:08:50 AM
:jawalrus
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: Assimilate on January 25, 2018, 11:23:26 AM
Finally got my wife to ditch her iPhone and her Pixel 2 is coming tomorrow.  No more Crapple
:rejoice

spoiler (click to show/hide)
I got me a Pixel 2, too.  That shit niiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiice.
[close]

Been with Apple ever since Steve got back to the company. I'm honestly debating getting out. Apple under Cook has been a fucking disaster. There's only two things that keep me tied to Apple

1. The ecosystem of Imessage. Everyone i know in the U.S has an iphone and i'm always out of the country. Even though there's android phones with two sim card slots which would be amazing for me the imessage/facetime chat keeps me locked into apple.
2. The fact that it's really easy to run Linux alongside OSX while Windows is still shit is another bonus.

But man has APPLE been falling off big. And a fucking 1k Iphone? like really??? And no decent macbook pro??

I hope the company starts getting smashed on their stock price. They need a shakeup.
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: chronovore on March 11, 2018, 06:48:18 PM
https://youtu.be/305ryPvU6A8

It's a great ad by Spike Jonze. I get pissed at Apple for a bunch of stuff, but their ad campaigns are always the best out there.
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: Valkyrie on March 11, 2018, 07:39:25 PM
Once my 6S dies out, I’m going on team Android. Sick of feeling like I’m being held hostage due to “Let’s make everything as annoying as we can for users who don’t own only Apple products”, among other things.
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: Assimilate on March 11, 2018, 07:46:40 PM
What keeps apple alive is the fact that android is a mess. If it were more unified and not so goddamn cluttered Apple would be destroyed overnight.

Same goes for Windows. If Windows was just better Apple would be done. Everything Apple is cumbersome now and i'm tired of the apple tax. Sell your shitty peripherals at a reasonable price you fucking cunts.

They get away with selling crappy headphones at a markup just because. Someone needs to smack tim cook in the mouth because this company is failing, hard. That homepod isn't going to do shit because SIRI fucking stinks compared to Alexa and Googles voice assistant.
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: nudemacusers on March 11, 2018, 07:48:06 PM
“Let’s make everything as annoying as we can for users who don’t own only Apple products”
When Google submits its apps, they're not sending their best. They're sending apps that have lots of problems, and they're bringing those problems. They're bringing ads. They're bringing spyware. They're buggy. And some, I assume, are good apps.

:trumps
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: nudemacusers on March 11, 2018, 07:50:57 PM
Someone needs to smack tim cook in the mouth because this company is failing, hard.
(https://i.imgur.com/buNRicI.png)
 :success
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: thisismyusername on March 11, 2018, 08:02:24 PM
It's a great ad by Spike Jonze.

Sure, if you want a dance number. The actual fucking thing they're advertising only does "one thing" (hey Siri, play me music) and doesn't show what else it does. At that point consumers would be like "why would I buy that when I can just tell my iPhone to do the same?"

The dancer number bit worked for the iPod because the iPod was a portable music player, it made sense. What is the HomePod's use? To play music that your phone can already do?

(I'd slam Google's ads for it's "HomePod" thing as well if it did the same thing)
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: bork on March 11, 2018, 08:32:41 PM
Being Apple-free
:rejoice
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: Coax on March 12, 2018, 12:44:23 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/omVWIAH.png)

Edit: posted to wrong thread :doge
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: Brehvolution on March 12, 2018, 01:08:02 PM
I was excited for the homepod until I read that you can't hook up any device and play music from it. It won't play anything over bluetooth. It only plays music through Apple Music over wifi. That is pretty much bullshit for a $350 speaker.
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: bork on March 12, 2018, 10:24:27 PM
I was excited for the homepod until I read that you can't hook up any device and play music from it. It won't play anything over bluetooth. It only plays music through Apple Music over wifi. That is pretty much bullshit for a $350 speaker.

But all you need is Apple® Music™ and iTunes®.  What else is there?  ???
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: nudemacusers on March 12, 2018, 10:29:13 PM
I was excited for the homepod until I read that you can't hook up any device and play music from it. It won't play anything over bluetooth. It only plays music through Apple Music over wifi. That is pretty much bullshit for a $350 speaker.

But all you need is Apple® Music™ and iTunes®.  What else is there?  ???
Aren’t all the other music players using command line interfaces?  :yuck

Sorry I’m too busy enjoying a modern lifestyle to sit around and tinker with config files and updates  :-X
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: brawndolicious on March 13, 2018, 02:06:41 AM
I was excited for the homepod until I read that you can't hook up any device and play music from it. It won't play anything over bluetooth. It only plays music through Apple Music over wifi. That is pretty much bullshit for a $350 speaker.

But all you need is Apple® Music™ and iTunes®.  What else is there?  ???
Aren’t all the other music players using command line interfaces?  :yuck

Sorry I’m too busy enjoying a modern lifestyle to sit around and tinker with config files and updates  :-X

yoo boi I got iPhone X here let me show you this WILDE new song that I heard on Apple Music. Wait hold on I gotta update. It'll sound almost as good on those homepods as on my Airpods, which turn up the pitch like those anime music videos.

This song is LIT you will love it and why is it taking so long to download....oh sorry I was holding it wrong. That's user error. Not Apple's fault.
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: chronovore on March 13, 2018, 03:18:05 AM
 I would be stunned if the HomePod didn’t also allow users who are on iTunes Match, the cloud storage solution for people who curate their own music library.

Apple has been so pushy about Apple Music that I have no interest in ever supporting it. I hear it’s pretty awesome, but I am angry that it still continues to show up in user interface sections even though I’ve told Apple to never mention it to me again.

https://www.theverge.com/2018/1/29/16944318/homepod-itunes-match-apple-music-icloud-library-siri

 Apple’s official product page doesn’t list if iTunes Match also works with that, but it is confirmed that users can use AirPlay to directly control whatever you want to come out of HomePod.  But that official webpage is just more of Apple bullshit pushing Apple Music at the cost of other potential users.
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on March 13, 2018, 03:25:41 AM
I would love to switch back to android, but on Android you never know if some apps are available, when they will be available, if they will work and for how long they will work.

Its such a swamp of shit.

Also you dont know how long your phone will be supported or if it will get updates, what kind of bloatware is installed etc.
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: kingv on March 19, 2018, 01:33:47 PM
Discovered a week or two that trying to send some shit to Chromecast is basically impossible on an iPhone. Had an amazon movie I wanted to watch at a friends place, and had to whip out my dick and type in my password to his roku instead of chromecast.
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: Tasty on March 19, 2018, 02:23:32 PM
I would love to switch back to android, but on Android you never know if some apps are available, when they will be available, if they will work and for how long they will work.

Its such a swamp of shit.

Also you dont know how long your phone will be supported or if it will get updates, what kind of bloatware is installed etc.

Google Pixel phones are supported with three years of software and security updates (https://www.theverge.com/circuitbreaker/2017/10/4/16403922/google-pixel-2-phone-android-update-schedule). They're also the first to receive new OS updates, and come with no bloatware. My Pixel 2 launched with Android 8.0 Oreo, and will receive Android P, Q, and R (roughly 9.0 to 11.0.)

For the record, if you're buying a phone through a telco, you kinda deserve whatever bloatware you get. :trumps But I understand that's not common practice in your glorious Yurop.
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: desert punk on March 19, 2018, 03:19:23 PM
As much as I despise Apple as a company, I'm not above buying their stuff. They are perfect for casual filth like me who can afford them and just wants to have some nice things that work without much problems.

I wasn't really happy with my Galaxy S4, though it's pretty much my fault for buying the cheapest Android shit available. But even though I love my iPhone, if someone asked me if they ought to buy one, I'd tell them to get one of the better Android models instead. Those new iPhone prices are a fucking disgrace. I'm not gonna buy a new one any time soon.
 
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: bork on March 19, 2018, 03:21:39 PM
Just get a Pixel 2.  Don't need to get it through a provider...Google sells them too.  Zero bloatware.  Super-easy to set up and import all your stuff over...even from an iPhone.

Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: desert punk on March 19, 2018, 03:45:12 PM
I don't really need a new phone anytime soon. As long I'm adamant about ignoring any iOS-updates I'll be fine with my iPhone 7+ for a long while.
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: Assimilate on March 19, 2018, 05:11:22 PM
If i were to switch to android i'd definitely get a Pixel . However, i just switched the battery on my Iphone 6 and it's running perfectly fine. I probably won't switch until the end of the year at least.

The shit that really pisses me off with the Apple right now that makes me want to switch

1. Icloud fucking sucks
2. Siri fucking sucks
3. Accessories are too expensive straight from apple
4. IOS is not as smooth as it was, some really unintuitive garbage going on
5. Itunes fucking sucks (once my fake student discount is up i'm probably switching to spotify)
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: chronovore on March 20, 2018, 05:42:45 PM
Figured out why Amazon was in no rush to put the Prime Video app on AppleTV for the longest time: while all the Prime Video free streaming stuff is readily available, anything to rent or buy must first be purchased through a regular web browser. That's /arguably/ easy on mobile devices, as you can just fire up the browser, but AppleTV doesn't have a browser on the device.

It threw me for a loop, because I'd been using the Amazon Prime Video app on PS3/PS4 for a year, and it allows users to just clickthrough a purchase to their registered Amazon account.

Apple's policy to prevent people from entering their CC information in apps and then being held accountable was understandable, but the idea that I have already got an account on a server and can't access it is utter foolishness.
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: TVC15 on March 20, 2018, 05:54:21 PM
Figured out why Amazon was in no rush to put the Prime Video app on AppleTV for the longest time: while all the Prime Video free streaming stuff is readily available, anything to rent or buy must first be purchased through a regular web browser. That's /arguably/ easy on mobile devices, as you can just fire up the browser, but AppleTV doesn't have a browser on the device.

It threw me for a loop, because I'd been using the Amazon Prime Video app on PS3/PS4 for a year, and it allows users to just clickthrough a purchase to their registered Amazon account.

Apple's policy to prevent people from entering their CC information in apps and then being held accountable was understandable, but the idea that I have already got an account on a server and can't access it is utter foolishness.

I figured it was Amazon’s choice to do it this way. Apple probably wanted a % cut for each rental/sale.
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: Tasty on March 20, 2018, 06:30:09 PM
Figured out why Amazon was in no rush to put the Prime Video app on AppleTV for the longest time: while all the Prime Video free streaming stuff is readily available, anything to rent or buy must first be purchased through a regular web browser. That's /arguably/ easy on mobile devices, as you can just fire up the browser, but AppleTV doesn't have a browser on the device.

It threw me for a loop, because I'd been using the Amazon Prime Video app on PS3/PS4 for a year, and it allows users to just clickthrough a purchase to their registered Amazon account.

Apple's policy to prevent people from entering their CC information in apps and then being held accountable was understandable, but the idea that I have already got an account on a server and can't access it is utter foolishness.

I figured it was Amazon’s choice to do it this way. Apple probably wanted a % cut for each rental/sale.

Correct. This is also why Comixology stopped allowing comic purchases shortly after getting bought by Amazon.

On the other side of the fence, Google Play has a similar policy but allows exemptions if the digital goods can be bought outside the app (like on the web.) Amazon Prime Video and Comixology on Android have full in-app purchase support.
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: TVC15 on March 20, 2018, 06:37:40 PM
Figured out why Amazon was in no rush to put the Prime Video app on AppleTV for the longest time: while all the Prime Video free streaming stuff is readily available, anything to rent or buy must first be purchased through a regular web browser. That's /arguably/ easy on mobile devices, as you can just fire up the browser, but AppleTV doesn't have a browser on the device.

It threw me for a loop, because I'd been using the Amazon Prime Video app on PS3/PS4 for a year, and it allows users to just clickthrough a purchase to their registered Amazon account.

Apple's policy to prevent people from entering their CC information in apps and then being held accountable was understandable, but the idea that I have already got an account on a server and can't access it is utter foolishness.

I figured it was Amazon’s choice to do it this way. Apple probably wanted a % cut for each rental/sale.

Correct. This is also why Comixology stopped allowing comic purchases shortly after getting bought by Amazon.

On the other side of the fence, Google Play has a similar policy but allows exemptions if the digital goods can be bought outside the app (like on the web.) Amazon Prime Video and Comixology on Android have full in-app purchase support.

I don’t know if it’s still the case, but Spotify cost more to subscribe through the iOS app than it did through the Spotify website.
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: Brehvolution on March 21, 2018, 11:52:05 AM
I miss Spotify so much.  :( I had to cave to my daughter's wishes since all their stuff was on Apple music. They were each going on month to month subscriptions and I had my Spotify sub. I thought that was a waste of money when the whole family could be covered for $14.99/month. So in the end, it was me that had to start over with my curation.

The things we have to do for our kids.  :maf
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: Assimilate on March 21, 2018, 12:03:51 PM
I miss Spotify so much.  :( I had to cave to my daughter's wishes since all their stuff was on Apple music. They were each going on month to month subscriptions and I had my Spotify sub. I thought that was a waste of money when the whole family could be covered for $14.99/month. So in the end, it was me that had to start over with my curation.

The things we have to do for our kids.  :maf

Out of curiosity what do you like about Spotify over Itunes music?

I've been using apple music but everyone i know is on spotify.
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: Brehvolution on March 21, 2018, 01:07:53 PM
I miss Spotify so much.  :( I had to cave to my daughter's wishes since all their stuff was on Apple music. They were each going on month to month subscriptions and I had my Spotify sub. I thought that was a waste of money when the whole family could be covered for $14.99/month. So in the end, it was me that had to start over with my curation.

The things we have to do for our kids.  :maf

Out of curiosity what do you like about Spotify over Itunes music?

I've been using apple music but everyone i know is on spotify.

Spotify would lead me to more bands I liked that I had never heard of before. It had more flexibility like "Play similar bands like X band" and it would do a good job. All you can do with Apple music is start a radio station from a song and the stuff it plays can be all over the place. Spotify did a better job curating a weekly playlist based on what you listened to that week. Apple music seems to make a playlist with new music and most of it isn't anything like you listened to. I felt that Spotify learned my tastes catered to it and Apple music is just saying "Here is whatever we feel you should listen to. Skip it if you don't like it we don't care looool"

I can deal with it, whatevs. I listen to podcasts more than music these day.
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: chronovore on March 21, 2018, 06:14:17 PM
Figured out why Amazon was in no rush to put the Prime Video app on AppleTV for the longest time: while all the Prime Video free streaming stuff is readily available, anything to rent or buy must first be purchased through a regular web browser. That's /arguably/ easy on mobile devices, as you can just fire up the browser, but AppleTV doesn't have a browser on the device.

It threw me for a loop, because I'd been using the Amazon Prime Video app on PS3/PS4 for a year, and it allows users to just clickthrough a purchase to their registered Amazon account.

Apple's policy to prevent people from entering their CC information in apps and then being held accountable was understandable, but the idea that I have already got an account on a server and can't access it is utter foolishness.

I figured it was Amazon’s choice to do it this way. Apple probably wanted a % cut for each rental/sale.

Correct. This is also why Comixology stopped allowing comic purchases shortly after getting bought by Amazon.

On the other side of the fence, Google Play has a similar policy but allows exemptions if the digital goods can be bought outside the app (like on the web.) Amazon Prime Video and Comixology on Android have full in-app purchase support.

Are you certain that it's that simple?

With Amazon managing the customer's Amazon account fully, Apple tentatively has no ground to make a claim other than to say, "Only allow purchases on a browser, in-app purchases must be through an Apple account for consistency." Amazon could e-e-easily  put a link on the in-app page which leads to a webpage for purchase. It's clunky, but would be in-line with that policy. As it is, there's just a statement that purchased or rented items can be viewed in-app.

It's SO counterintuitive.
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: Tasty on March 21, 2018, 06:24:40 PM
I am 95% Apple would frown or outright disallow an app that did that.

I'm sure Amazon doesn't *like* leaving money on the table, so it must be Apple's policy. Any potential purchases must be done using their in-app payment APIs.
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: chronovore on March 21, 2018, 08:27:43 PM
I am 95% Apple would frown or outright disallow an app that did that.

I'm sure Amazon doesn't *like* leaving money on the table, so it must be Apple's policy. Any potential purchases must be done using their in-app payment APIs.

Digital content, yeah. Except I can purchase stuff through Amazon.com on the browser, even Comixology titles and Amazon streaming rentals — so maybe Apple forbids the use of direct links in-app to mobile browser pages?

(peeks)

Huh, even the iOS Amazon.app offers the category for digital music, but the purchase buttons are dimmed/deactivated, and it shows "Digital music is not available for purchase from this device." It similarly seems unable to purchase digital music through the web browser now as well. Huh.  :-\
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: Tasty on March 21, 2018, 08:35:37 PM
Feel free to revisit the title of this thread. ;)
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: chronovore on March 21, 2018, 08:52:00 PM
Feel free to revisit the title of this thread. ;)
Oh, I always have that at the edge of my awareness. Not just when in this thread, but in my daily life now.

My next computer's going to be a Win10 machine, so I can use Oculus Medium and sculpt virtually.

My next phone may or may not be Android. I'm really getting tired of feeling trapped in Apple's econosphere.
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: Tasty on March 21, 2018, 09:24:03 PM
You can soft-transition ahead of time by switching to Chrome, Gmail, etc. on your iPhone.

I mean, you won't be able to set them as defaults and Chrome had to be a reskinned Safari cause of Apple's dumb bullshit, but it's a start. :rejoice
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: kingv on March 21, 2018, 11:04:18 PM
I am 95% Apple would frown or outright disallow an app that did that.

I'm sure Amazon doesn't *like* leaving money on the table, so it must be Apple's policy. Any potential purchases must be done using their in-app payment APIs.

Digital content, yeah. Except I can purchase stuff through Amazon.com on the browser, even Comixology titles and Amazon streaming rentals — so maybe Apple forbids the use of direct links in-app to mobile browser pages?

(peeks)

Huh, even the iOS Amazon.app offers the category for digital music, but the purchase buttons are dimmed/deactivated, and it shows "Digital music is not available for purchase from this device." It similarly seems unable to purchase digital music through the web browser now as well. Huh.  :-\

Yeah, Apple disallowed links to external sites in like 2009 or so. About the time they introduced iBooks. A lot of companies were pissed because Apple started taking 30% of all in-app purchases.

IMO, 30% seems like highway robbery to me, and it should be like 1/3 of that. Of course, I stock up on iTunes cards at like 15% off face value too.
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: thisismyusername on March 21, 2018, 11:06:38 PM
My next phone may or may not be Android. I'm really getting tired of feeling trapped in Apple's econosphere.

While I like Android, the OS upgrade problem leaves a lot to be desired. Maybe my opinion would change if Treble was more readily adopted.
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: Tasty on March 21, 2018, 11:41:03 PM
My next phone may or may not be Android. I'm really getting tired of feeling trapped in Apple's econosphere.

While I like Android, the OS upgrade problem leaves a lot to be desired. Maybe my opinion would change if Treble was more readily adopted.

All phones that launch with Android 8.0+ are required to support Treble. For phones upgrading to 8.0+, it's optional - Treble was backported to the original Pixel phones and the Essential PH-1, but that's pretty much it because OEMs are laaaazzzyyyy.
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: brawndolicious on March 22, 2018, 01:44:40 AM
I have the Essential and coming from someone who's used Android since 2012, it's actually pretty weird getting updates every month.
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: Tasty on March 22, 2018, 01:49:25 AM
They're doing it right. I hope they can last until their second phone.
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: Assimilate on April 29, 2018, 10:47:28 AM
In another 5 years Apple might be dead if they don't change their ways.

They're entire service offerings are fucking GARBAGE. How can they continue to be like this and think it's ok?

Siri- fuckinG BLOWS

Icloud- FUCKING BLOWS, why do they think hiding all your stuff within itself is good? people like folder options, they like how dropbox does things. Why not just copy what people like you STUPID FUCKS

Iphoto- is pure frustration. again, this comes back to icloud and it's team being dumb as fuck. It's confusing knowing what will or will not be deleted across devices, or how the fuck "streaming" your photos to your devices actually work. How about make it easy so a fucking nude doesn't pop up out of nowhere when you don't want it to? 

They leave pro end users behind- their "back to my mac" feature is such garbage (add this to icloud being junk). Does anyone know a decent remote desktop software for mac that isn't complete ass???

Itunes- i don't even have to say anything anymore. I'm about to switch to spotify. Everyone i know is on it. Might as well join and just delete the itunes software completely off all my shit.

homepod- is a laughing stock.


People are switching to amazon for almost everything it seems. They really need to come out with their own IOS type phone and software. Android is ok but it's a cluttered mess for me . If amazon came out with their own phone i think Apple would die overnight. They're selling alexas left and right, even my fucking mom bought one and loves it.

I can feel the change happening. Apple has a few more years left.

/rant.
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: kingv on April 29, 2018, 11:00:38 AM
Amazon did have a phone a few years ago.

They kind of fucked it up by pushing amazon too hard on it, from what I understand. It didn’t sell very well.
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: Assimilate on April 29, 2018, 11:07:07 AM
Amazon did have a phone a few years ago.

They kind of fucked it up by pushing amazon too hard on it, from what I understand. It didn’t sell very well.
i remember and that was a disaster but that was a few years ago. we're talking now, they're up, and their services are dominating.

i say they give it another shot.
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: thisismyusername on April 29, 2018, 11:22:46 AM
>implying Apple will die when they have homosexuals like NudeMacUser1of5 buying their shit


Good joke. They'll be niche like they were in the 90's. But I don't think they'll "die" like they were doing in the 90's.
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: nudemacusers on April 29, 2018, 11:32:48 AM
Ur fave alsorans will die before Apple tbh. 200 billy cash on hand buys several lifelines.
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: samfish on April 29, 2018, 11:40:18 AM
Apple really should just dump Siri and allow Google or Amazon or whoever else to sell their AIs like an app. Siri is never going to be able to compete at this point because Apple doesn’t harvest their users data.

iCloud would be alright if it integrated better with the OS X file system. If I save a PDF or something it should be in my documents folder on my Mac. Instead everything is tucked away in the iCloud folder where a lot of the file structure feels redundant.

And iPhoto ugh. It needs to be smarter. I was at a photo print kiosk at a store a few weeks ago trying to print pics of my kids. The guy behind me got a full view of my wife in all her glory because the damn hidden photos aren’t actually hidden. Even if you hide a photo it ends up in photo stream and Moments on all your other devices.
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: Assimilate on April 29, 2018, 12:08:45 PM


And iPhoto ugh. It needs to be smarter. I was at a photo print kiosk at a store a few weeks ago trying to print pics of my kids. The guy behind me got a full view of my wife in all her glory because the damn hidden photos aren’t actually hidden. Even if you hide a photo it ends up in photo stream and Moments on all your other devices.
Apple is stupid as fuck and they still function as if everyone using their products are 10 year olds.

The lack of auto-correct on 'bad words' is just such a joke at this point, especially when your CEO is an intensely gayman    :beli
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on April 29, 2018, 04:10:53 PM
Yeah apple has a lot of dumb shit (icloud, tunes, photos etc)

But its still miles ahead of android where it matters: appstore, stability

In the end why would anyone care the apple apps are crap now if you can get the best and most stable apps from the app store? Its your own fault for keeping itunes lol
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: kingv on April 29, 2018, 04:31:15 PM
Apple really should just dump Siri and allow Google or Amazon or whoever else to sell their AIs like an app. Siri is never going to be able to compete at this point because Apple doesn’t harvest their users data.

iCloud would be alright if it integrated better with the OS X file system. If I save a PDF or something it should be in my documents folder on my Mac. Instead everything is tucked away in the iCloud folder where a lot of the file structure feels redundant.

And iPhoto ugh. It needs to be smarter. I was at a photo print kiosk at a store a few weeks ago trying to print pics of my kids. The guy behind me got a full view of my wife in all her glory because the damn hidden photos aren’t actually hidden. Even if you hide a photo it ends up in photo stream and Moments on all your other devices.

Might as well just post it here, now that it’s out there.

 :exxy :whatsthedeal :blessup :exxy :whatsthedeal :blessup
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: samfish on April 29, 2018, 05:48:13 PM
Well if you really want to see her, here you go:

 :nsfw
spoiler (click to show/hide)
just kidding. But she looks great. Good jerk off material for sure
[close]
:nsfw
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: Assimilate on May 02, 2018, 10:43:23 AM
The earnings call turned out to be average, and with everyone running for the hills beforehand this gives apple stock a boost.  :shaq2

The Iphone X isn't totally dead either like some people predicted. In the long run this hurts Apple. Their execs probably think all is good and they can continue to be the new Comcast of customer satisfaction.
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: Brehvolution on May 02, 2018, 11:27:48 AM
I pick up a X a couple of weeks ago. Easily the best phone and camera I've ever had. FaceID works better than I expected. Though it only works half the time with a hat and sunglasses on. Plus, my carrier had a promotion and I got $350 off of the price.
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: Assimilate on May 02, 2018, 11:36:18 AM
I pick up a X a couple of weeks ago. Easily the best phone and camera I've ever had. FaceID works better than I expected. Though it only works half the time with a hat and sunglasses on. Plus, my carrier had a promotion and I got $350 off of the price.
I'm still rocking a 6s. With the battery replacement program this thing still has life. I was close of getting the X but something about it turned me off (could have been the fact that they didn't even include an actual fast charger plug which is fucking insane not to do) I'll wait for whatever phone comes out this fall and then i'll switch.

What carrier gave you $350 though?
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: Brehvolution on May 02, 2018, 11:50:47 AM
AT&T. I was also turned off by the X at first. Once I realized that the screen was bigger than my 6S+ it was an easier decision. I ended up giving my old phone to my son which is the only reason I got a new phone.
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: Assimilate on May 02, 2018, 11:53:35 AM
i'm going to wait it out until the end of the year. either get the XS or the X when it's a lower price.

What i really want though is the watch.
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: chronovore on May 03, 2018, 05:18:18 AM
I wimped out on switching to Android. My provider called me and offered me an upgrade to an iPhone 8 (sizable, as I'm on 6, not 6 Plus or 6S) and bump my plan to 20GB/month for the same rate as I'm currently paying if I commit to 2 years.

Well, hell yes.
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: samfish on May 03, 2018, 08:55:41 AM
I'm going to cling to my 6s Plus as long as possible or until they bring back Touch ID. Fuck Face ID. I don't want a phone where my wife can't unlock it because it only recognizes 1 face.

Still having a headphone jack is also nice.
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: Brehvolution on May 03, 2018, 09:53:11 AM
Face ID does the same thing when Touch ID doesn't work and asks for the code to unlock it.
i'm going to wait it out until the end of the year. either get the XS or the X when it's a lower price.

What i really want though is the watch.

I've had a series 2 "Watch edition" which is the more expensive but relatively indestructible version. It's a little thicker as well. The sapphire glass face is still pristine and scratch free. I can't say the same for the stainless steel housing which has some scuffs and scrapes from everyday wear for over a year. Most of them are waterproof as well.

The watch face gallery is uninspired and I always find myself going back to the same one. You can control the flow of music and volume. It's too small of an area to search for music on the watch. You are better served to find what you want and hit play on your phone.

It's handy to tell Siri to call or text someone when you are alone and don't want to look like idiot in public. Especially when it doesn't work the first time. Text messages show up and are easily readable. You can respond with your voice which is handy when you are driving. Call quality on the watch is fair, but not that loud. The other person can e hard to hear if there is background noise like when driving.

If you are still on the fence, get a cheap version to try it out. Then upgrade when it's something you see yourself using in the long term.

tl;dr version. 7/10 would buy again.
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: Assimilate on May 03, 2018, 02:02:08 PM
Face ID does the same thing when Touch ID doesn't work and asks for the code to unlock it.
i'm going to wait it out until the end of the year. either get the XS or the X when it's a lower price.

What i really want though is the watch.

I've had a series 2 "Watch edition" which is the more expensive but relatively indestructible version. It's a little thicker as well. The sapphire glass face is still pristine and scratch free. I can't say the same for the stainless steel housing which has some scuffs and scrapes from everyday wear for over a year. Most of them are waterproof as well.

The watch face gallery is uninspired and I always find myself going back to the same one. You can control the flow of music and volume. It's too small of an area to search for music on the watch. You are better served to find what you want and hit play on your phone.

It's handy to tell Siri to call or text someone when you are alone and don't want to look like idiot in public. Especially when it doesn't work the first time. Text messages show up and are easily readable. You can respond with your voice which is handy when you are driving. Call quality on the watch is fair, but not that loud. The other person can e hard to hear if there is background noise like when driving.

If you are still on the fence, get a cheap version to try it out. Then upgrade when it's something you see yourself using in the long term.

tl;dr version. 7/10 would buy again.
The main pull on the watch for me would be the ability to use it at the gym without a phone in my pocket constantly slipping out. I want it for that ability to answer calls and listen to music. Outside of that the heart monitor is nice.

I'll probably wait until this fall to see if a new version comes out or if the price drops on the 3rd edition.

Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: Brehvolution on May 03, 2018, 04:07:35 PM
Non LTE watches have 5gb of local storage for music when the phone is not within bluetooth range. Plenty of room for a couple of playlists. Sync the headphones to the watch and you'll be good to go. The watch does a more precise measure of the health metrics tracked(heart rate, steps, and sleep if you want to wear it overnight).
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: Assimilate on May 03, 2018, 06:14:12 PM
Non LTE watches have 5gb of local storage for music when the phone is not within bluetooth range. Plenty of room for a couple of playlists. Sync the headphones to the watch and you'll be good to go. The watch does a more precise measure of the health metrics tracked(heart rate, steps, and sleep if you want to wear it overnight).
to receive calls do you have to have the phone near bluetooth range? no right? i can leave the phone home, on wifi, and then use the watch at the gym and receive calls right?

Apple does some things great and then other things that leave me baffled. Like, how the fuck does IOS still not allow multiple users??? The Ipad is such a worthless device for a home when you can't have multiple user profiles. Fucking apple. do they really expect every single individual to have their own ipad? they live in Sanfran valley la la fucking land.
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: shosta on May 03, 2018, 10:14:56 PM
San Francisco isn't a valley
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: Assimilate on May 03, 2018, 10:38:58 PM
San Francisco isn't a valley
i was adding silicon valley with sanfran you fuckboy
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: chronovore on May 04, 2018, 02:12:34 AM
Yeah, Apple considers each iPhone, iPad, iPod to be an individual's sole device.

Yeah, it's lame.

It's even more lame to consider how many extra devices they've likely sold due to this policy.
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: bork on May 04, 2018, 08:30:08 AM
I'm going to cling to my 6s Plus as long as possible or until they bring back Touch ID. Fuck Face ID. I don't want a phone where my wife can't unlock it because it only recognizes 1 face.

Still having a headphone jack is also nice.

Can't you just use a passcode?  :doge

I gotta admit, I was very much against the removal of headphone jacks, but since I got a Pixel 2, I haven't cared.  Don't have BT headphones or anything...just realized that I rarely if ever use headphones with my phone in general, and hey, there's a adapter for it if needed.  Still sucks if you want to listen and charge at the same time, though. 
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: Brehvolution on May 04, 2018, 08:45:06 AM
Non LTE watches have 5gb of local storage for music when the phone is not within bluetooth range. Plenty of room for a couple of playlists. Sync the headphones to the watch and you'll be good to go. The watch does a more precise measure of the health metrics tracked(heart rate, steps, and sleep if you want to wear it overnight).
to receive calls do you have to have the phone near bluetooth range? no right? i can leave the phone home, on wifi, and then use the watch at the gym and receive calls right?

If your phone was ever on the gym's wifi, the watch will be as well so yes it will work like it is attached to the phone. I left my phone at home one day and went to work. I received all my messages on the watch. You would need the phone nearby for calls though.
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: Assimilate on May 04, 2018, 10:40:49 AM
Non LTE watches have 5gb of local storage for music when the phone is not within bluetooth range. Plenty of room for a couple of playlists. Sync the headphones to the watch and you'll be good to go. The watch does a more precise measure of the health metrics tracked(heart rate, steps, and sleep if you want to wear it overnight).
to receive calls do you have to have the phone near bluetooth range? no right? i can leave the phone home, on wifi, and then use the watch at the gym and receive calls right?

If your phone was ever on the gym's wifi, the watch will be as well so yes it will work like it is attached to the phone. I left my phone at home one day and went to work. I received all my messages on the watch. You would need the phone nearby for calls though.
facetime calls won't work though if the phone is at home?



I gotta admit, I was very much against the removal of headphone jacks, but since I got a Pixel 2, I haven't cared.  Don't have BT headphones or anything...just realized that I rarely if ever use headphones with my phone in general, and hey, there's a adapter for it if needed.  Still sucks if you want to listen and charge at the same time, though.
Yeah i never understood the outrage over this.  At this point if you're using headphones with a phone it should be wireless. And if you're an audiophile you're already using a separate DAP with an amp anyways.
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: Brehvolution on May 04, 2018, 11:37:49 AM
Looks like Facetime audio will work.
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: kingv on May 04, 2018, 08:37:32 PM
I'm going to cling to my 6s Plus as long as possible or until they bring back Touch ID. Fuck Face ID. I don't want a phone where my wife can't unlock it because it only recognizes 1 face.

Still having a headphone jack is also nice.

I miss my headphone jack honestly. Long since lost my dongle, my Bluetooth headphones are shitty, at the bottom of my workout bag, and I always forget to charge them, but I have 4 pairs of headphones in my desk.
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: Assimilate on May 05, 2018, 09:21:11 AM
I'm going to cling to my 6s Plus as long as possible or until they bring back Touch ID. Fuck Face ID. I don't want a phone where my wife can't unlock it because it only recognizes 1 face.

Still having a headphone jack is also nice.

I miss my headphone jack honestly. Long since lost my dongle, my Bluetooth headphones are shitty, at the bottom of my workout bag, and I always forget to charge them, but I have 4 pairs of headphones in my desk.
i got the BeatsX recently. I swore i'd never buy Beats anything but these are really nice. The sound quality isn't as good as wired, but after a few min you don't even notice the difference.

Being wireless around the city, at the gym, is just so much better. There's no reason to have a wired headset with your phone. No reason at all.
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: Joe Molotov on May 24, 2018, 10:54:42 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/SteamDB/status/999787051838042112

:beli
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: Tasty on May 24, 2018, 11:28:18 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/SteamDB/status/999787051838042112

:beli


:heyman

Meanwhile on Android https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHv_anDGyx8
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: Tasty on May 24, 2018, 11:54:46 PM
I have the Essential and coming from someone who's used Android since 2012, it's actually pretty weird getting updates every month.

https://www.androidpolice.com/2018/05/24/essential-reportedly-cancels-second-phone-puts-sale/

Welp, lol.
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: thisismyusername on May 25, 2018, 12:14:08 AM
I have the Essential and coming from someone who's used Android since 2012, it's actually pretty weird getting updates every month.

https://www.androidpolice.com/2018/05/24/essential-reportedly-cancels-second-phone-puts-sale/

Welp, lol.

:neogaf

Who didn't see that coming? Beyond brawn anyway. Asking $500 or so for a literal "Who?" company phone that has grand/lofty-goals like that panorama camera accessory doesn't get support. Who knew!?
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: Brehvolution on June 04, 2018, 04:37:03 PM
https://twitter.com/JonyIveParody/status/1003717179349569536
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: Tasty on June 04, 2018, 04:53:26 PM
RIP OpenGL on Apple devices for no reason
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: D3RANG3D on June 04, 2018, 06:00:21 PM
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Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: Nintex on June 04, 2018, 06:07:46 PM
RIP OpenGL on Apple devices for no reason
Apple just killed 90% of the indie game development on their platform.

What the fuck.  :doge

"Jon, it's time to open the vault and see what Steve left us to save Apple."

"Yes, Tim. Let's open the vault and see what Jobs left us..."

*finds note*

"There's a small note here Tim"

"What does it say Jon?"

"It says: "Kill OpenGL, love Steve"
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: Tasty on June 04, 2018, 06:46:37 PM
Tim Cook: "Hey it worked when we did it to Flash, what's the difference? :idont"
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: Assimilate on June 04, 2018, 06:52:13 PM
Here we have Google and Amazon working tirelessly on world domination with A.I and what does Apple do? Offer you more animojis.

This is the entire Apple team now. A bunch of fucking queens and women running the show. No macbook updates, or references to their shit keyboard. This is a goddamn disaster and yet stocks are up?

It shows you that most of these 'analysts' are Ted Dansoned. When Steve Jobs was dropping revolutionary products you got the analysts saying "they can't keep this up, what happens after ipods? there's nothing" but now the company is clearly lacking any real innovation or leadership but "wow look at that you can stick your tongue out! let's bump this stock to the roof"

 :shaq2
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: Tasty on June 04, 2018, 06:54:00 PM
If pump and dumps work with penny stocks, why not the richest tech company in the world? :idont
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: TakingBackSunday on June 04, 2018, 11:01:42 PM
Here we have Google and Amazon working tirelessly on world domination with A.I and what does Apple do? Offer you more animojis.

This is the entire Apple team now. A bunch of fucking queens and women running the show. No macbook updates, or references to their shit keyboard. This is a goddamn disaster and yet stocks are up?

It shows you that most of these 'analysts' are Ted Dansoned. When Steve Jobs was dropping revolutionary products you got the analysts saying "they can't keep this up, what happens after ipods? there's nothing" but now the company is clearly lacking any real innovation or leadership but "wow look at that you can stick your tongue out! let's bump this stock to the roof"

 :shaq2

This is the dumbest fucking post
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: Assimilate on June 04, 2018, 11:12:39 PM
Here we have Google and Amazon working tirelessly on world domination with A.I and what does Apple do? Offer you more animojis.

This is the entire Apple team now. A bunch of fucking queens and women running the show. No macbook updates, or references to their shit keyboard. This is a goddamn disaster and yet stocks are up?

It shows you that most of these 'analysts' are Ted Dansoned. When Steve Jobs was dropping revolutionary products you got the analysts saying "they can't keep this up, what happens after ipods? there's nothing" but now the company is clearly lacking any real innovation or leadership but "wow look at that you can stick your tongue out! let's bump this stock to the roof"

 :shaq2

This is the dumbest fucking post

 :badass

woah someone really liked those new animojis
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: brawndolicious on June 05, 2018, 12:08:02 AM
I have the Essential and coming from someone who's used Android since 2012, it's actually pretty weird getting updates every month.

https://www.androidpolice.com/2018/05/24/essential-reportedly-cancels-second-phone-puts-sale/

Welp, lol.

:neogaf

Who didn't see that coming? Beyond brawn anyway. Asking $500 or so for a literal "Who?" company phone that has grand/lofty-goals like that panorama camera accessory doesn't get support. Who knew!?

I paid $150 for a 4 month old phone that was originally like $700. I'm not gonna claim I had any great expectations but this phone performed better than any other I've had (S2, Nexus 5, Moto X Pure). I could say the same thing about my first experience with a cougar, no regrets then no regrets now.

Yeah, okay I wouldn't recommend this to a Patagonia wearing survivalist who's used the same toothbrush since 1984, but it's a great trap phone as the kids would say. Can install LineageOS and not worry too much if you brick it.

Not sure how ceramic/titanium recycling works tho.
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: Tasty on June 05, 2018, 03:00:34 AM
Here we have Google and Amazon working tirelessly on world domination with A.I and what does Apple do? Offer you more animojis.

This is the entire Apple team now. A bunch of fucking queens and women running the show. No macbook updates, or references to their shit keyboard. This is a goddamn disaster and yet stocks are up?

It shows you that most of these 'analysts' are Ted Dansoned. When Steve Jobs was dropping revolutionary products you got the analysts saying "they can't keep this up, what happens after ipods? there's nothing" but now the company is clearly lacking any real innovation or leadership but "wow look at that you can stick your tongue out! let's bump this stock to the roof"

 :shaq2

This is the dumbest fucking post

Apple Schills™ aren't welcome ITT.
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: nudemacusers on June 05, 2018, 03:29:35 PM
What about smart, intelligent Apple product buyers?
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: Tasty on June 05, 2018, 03:32:14 PM
What about smart, intelligent Apple product buyers?

Imaginary people are likewise banned from the thread, sorry.
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: nudemacusers on June 05, 2018, 03:33:11 PM
RIP dufus’ girlfriend  :(
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: Assimilate on July 12, 2018, 12:42:04 PM
macbook pro bump in specs https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2018/07/apple-updates-macbook-pro-with-faster-performance-and-new-features-for-pros/

it's a big bump in terms of specs but ignores all the other problems people have with these macbook pros.

what does this mean for the macbook air/macbook? it's not looking very promising.
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: nudemacusers on July 12, 2018, 06:15:36 PM
Ready for a new air put one in me daddy cook
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: Assimilate on July 14, 2018, 12:42:34 PM
Ready for a new air put one in me daddy cook
Yeah, ready for a new air as well but that new pro looks enticing. There's rumors they'll be discontinuing the air with only the macbook as an option. Makes sense considering how thin they are. What more could they do with an air besides go full 'chrombook' which would be stupid.

So i don't know if i should wait for the new macbooks or jump on this pro. i don't need all that power, and at 1799 that's pretty steep.
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: Corporal on July 15, 2018, 08:38:01 PM
As long as they have such a hard on for their stupid fragile butterfly keyboard tech that they stick to it even in the face of significant breakage I'm not even gonna look at these things. Fuck replacing like half the laptop just because a key is busted. Also their stupid gimmicky touch bar that I somehow really want despite knowing that it's crap and a shit replacement for Esc&Fn keys.

...

I'm more thinking about an iPad 2018. There's some offerings where you technically get the iPad (or the LTE plan) for free. Maxes out at 5GB of LTE data per month, but that is enough for on the go stuff. Two years commitment at 20 bucks per month. Reasonable as far as Telekom plans go in good old Germany. Hmmmm....

I just can't get myself to like the newer iOS's. I hate the design. I'd seriously pay 50 bucks more to get the pre-v7 iOS UI with some bugfixes under the hood. No need for multitasking and all that other jazz. Basically a Gandpa-iPad.

So, I should probably just get a random Amazon tablet on sale for cheap and suffer through Android for a few more years.  :-\  :yuck
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: bork on July 17, 2018, 07:46:14 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dx8J125s4cg

The throttling
:neogaf
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: Tasty on July 17, 2018, 08:15:54 PM
$6700 brehs.
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: Assimilate on July 17, 2018, 08:27:38 PM
But why would anyone buy such a laptop? that'd burn a hole through your fucking balls and if it's going on a table all the time why not just buy a desktop?
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: bork on July 17, 2018, 08:27:59 PM
$6700 brehs.
:dead
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: bork on July 17, 2018, 08:28:50 PM
But why would anyone buy such a laptop? that'd burn a hole through your fucking balls and if it's going on a table all the time why not just buy a desktop?

But then how am I show supposed to show everyone that I'm a successful professional as I sit in Starbucks all day long?  ???
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: Corporal on July 17, 2018, 09:34:53 PM
"""Pro"""

Small reminder. This is the "Pro" line. Made by Professionals, for Professionals. None of that cheapo crap for the lowly plebs. A Pro price for Pro performance and Pro extensibility.


:whatsthedeal :umad


Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: Tasty on July 17, 2018, 09:50:33 PM
And Pro third-degree burns.
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: chronovore on July 17, 2018, 10:29:01 PM
"""Pro"""

Small reminder. This is the "Pro" line. Made by Professionals, for Professionals. None of that cheapo crap for the lowly plebs. A Pro price for Pro performance and Pro extensibility.


:whatsthedeal :umad

Ha ha! FAKE NEWS.  "Extensible" doesn't belong in any sentence where Apple hardware is concerned!
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: nudemacusers on July 17, 2018, 10:36:25 PM
if you were really pro all of your devices would be wifi/bt enabled. cords are for the working classes.
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: Assimilate on July 29, 2018, 04:28:43 PM
was checking out the Macbook pros. Man they're nice. Pricey, but fucking nice.

If a new macbook air doesn't come out this fall i may have to go with a pro.
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: jorma on July 29, 2018, 05:05:50 PM
The title of this thread is grossly misleading, "fuck me apple (again and again)" would be a more relevant title.

Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: Tasty on July 29, 2018, 05:53:32 PM
There's a great Mega64 podcast skit dealing with Rocco's Apple obsession titled "Apple Cuck." :lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_B2gXK0EGc8
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: Assimilate on July 29, 2018, 07:14:48 PM
The title of this thread is grossly misleading, "fuck me apple (again and again)" would be a more relevant title.
there's simply no other alternative that offers everything apple does though. it's that complete integration that keeps me there despite the bullshit they pull with the "apple tax"

i mean just look at that android google thread. people talking about 'we get 2 year support with a pixel" like wtf? 2 years of software updates? that's fucking laughable. i've had my iphone6 and macbook air for over 4 years and they're both working perfectly fine and if i didn't have the desire to upgrade i could stick it out with this phone for at least another year, and this laptop for a solid 3 more years if not more.

not to mention the resale value on apple products is much higher so you tend to recoup some of that "apple tax" anyways.
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: Tasty on July 29, 2018, 08:32:14 PM
Pixel 2's get three years of software updates (https://www.androidpolice.com/2017/10/19/google-says-pixel-2-will-receive-three-years-software-updates/), which is the same as the iPhone.

The iPhone also recently got raked over pretty bad about the whole "slowing down old phones" update. Aside from that, there's been diminishing returns in macOS and iOS software updates anyways, as you yourself have said ITT (re: Animojis.)

Resale values are on a long timescale so it's much harder to judge them for newer products than Apple's lines, but the Pixel's resale prices have remained fairly good and consistent. A used first-gen Pixel can be bought today on eBay for $200-250 (https://www.ebay.com/itm/Google-Pixel-XL-AT-T-T-Mobile-Verizon-32GB-128GB-LTE-FACTORY-UNLOCKED-Smartphone/282921120225?hash=item41df69b1e1%3Am%3AmcITQ8wljfw8ppmwU3IqfoQ%3Asc%3AUSPSFirstClass%2102109%21US%21-1&var=582778950251&_sacat=0&_nkw=used+google+pixel+1+128+gb&_from=R40&rt=nc&_trksid=m570.l1313&LH_TitleDesc=0%7C0), which is easily comparable with a used iPhone 7 (https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2334524.m570.l1313.TR10.TRC1.A0.H0.Xused+iphone+7+128+gb.TRS1&_nkw=used+iphone+7+128+gb&_sacat=0&LH_TitleDesc=0&_osacat=See-All-Categories&_odkw=used+iphone+7).

To be clear, you're paying a first-party "tax" no matter who you go with (Apple, Microsoft, Google), but to pretend there's a huge gap in ecosystems these days is just outdated thinking. Pick what you like, but don't pretend it's inherently better.

Edit- And if we're throwing laptop updates into the mix, there's simply no question that Chrome OS beats everyone else. (https://support.google.com/chrome/a/answer/6220366?hl=en) But that's not really fair since it was created over a decade after Windows and macOS, and automatic updates were a huge priority in its initial design.
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: Kara on July 29, 2018, 08:34:10 PM
There's a great Mega64 podcast skit dealing with Rocco's Apple obsession titled "Apple Cuck." :lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_B2gXK0EGc8

"Why is Apple playing catch up to all the other companies? They should be innovating! Don't be imitating, you're Apple!" :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: Assimilate on July 29, 2018, 09:05:14 PM
Pixel 2's get three years of software updates (https://www.androidpolice.com/2017/10/19/google-says-pixel-2-will-receive-three-years-software-updates/), which is the same as the iPhone.

The iPhone also recently got raked over pretty bad about the whole "slowing down old phones" update. Aside from that, there's been diminishing returns in macOS and iOS software updates anyways, as you yourself have said ITT (re: Animojis.)

Resale values are on a long timescale so it's much harder to judge them for newer products than Apple's lines, but the Pixel's resale prices have remained fairly good and consistent. A used first-gen Pixel can be bought today on eBay for $200-250 (https://www.ebay.com/itm/Google-Pixel-XL-AT-T-T-Mobile-Verizon-32GB-128GB-LTE-FACTORY-UNLOCKED-Smartphone/282921120225?hash=item41df69b1e1%3Am%3AmcITQ8wljfw8ppmwU3IqfoQ%3Asc%3AUSPSFirstClass%2102109%21US%21-1&var=582778950251&_sacat=0&_nkw=used+google+pixel+1+128+gb&_from=R40&rt=nc&_trksid=m570.l1313&LH_TitleDesc=0%7C0), which is easily comparable with a used iPhone 7 (https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2334524.m570.l1313.TR10.TRC1.A0.H0.Xused+iphone+7+128+gb.TRS1&_nkw=used+iphone+7+128+gb&_sacat=0&LH_TitleDesc=0&_osacat=See-All-Categories&_odkw=used+iphone+7).

To be clear, you're paying a first-party "tax" no matter who you go with (Apple, Microsoft, Google), but to pretend there's a huge gap in ecosystems these days is just outdated thinking. Pick what you like, but don't pretend it's inherently better.

Edit- And if we're throwing laptop updates into the mix, there's simply no question that Chrome OS beats everyone else. (https://support.google.com/chrome/a/answer/6220366?hl=en) But that's not really fair since it was created over a decade after Windows and macOS, and automatic updates were a huge priority in its initial design.
What are you talking about "same with the iphone" . My iphone has gotten every single update besides the ones that came to the Iphone X and it's going on 5 years.

I've never seen an Android hold value. You're saying Pixel first gens sell used for $200-$250? Most Iphone 7s are over $300 both on Ebay and Offerup. I mean, you can't look at a listing that's in 100-200 range that's still being bid on. Just look at offerup. It's hard to find a 7 in the mid 200s (you can get lucky but on average they're over 250). Also, from most indications Pixel hasn't saved HTC, so i don't know what the future holds for either HTC in general, or the Pixel line.  Google still hasn't figured out how to do this properly.

Don't compare a chromebook to an actual windows/mac laptop. They're not the same just because a Pixel chromebook sells for an absurdly high price (1k last i checked) which is fucking laughable.

But none of this tackles the point i made why i stick with Apple. It's the overall integration between laptop,phone, watch, services. It's still the best out there. Not to mention Imessage, facetime, things that Google is just now trying to catch up on. Fuck, most apps don't even come to android first, and some times when they do it's buggy as fuck. If you live in NA i don't see 1 single reason to get an Android over Iphone.

In my view Apple's obstacle right now is Siri and their 'homepod'. Siri being the bigger of the two.
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: Tasty on July 29, 2018, 09:36:08 PM
What are you talking about "same with the iphone" . My iphone has gotten every single update besides the ones that came to the Iphone X and it's going on 5 years.

I was mistaken about this and I apologize.

However, I do question the viability of a phone past three years. Hardware at that point is what tends to break down, especially the battery. In addition, I've heard nightmare stories about people updating old iPhones, not only to have headline features disabled but severe performance degradation too. I think three years is a perfectly viable update schedule -- more than that is appreciated, but less than that is unacceptable, and I agree with that notion.

I've never seen an Android hold value. You're saying Pixel first gens sell used for $200-$250? Most Iphone 7s are over $300 both on Ebay and Offerup. I mean, you can't look at a listing that's in 100-200 range that's still being bid on. Just look at offerup. It's hard to find a 7 in the mid 200s (you can get lucky but on average they're over 250).

We're arguing over (at most) $50 here, I think I've proven my point.

Also, from most indications Pixel hasn't saved HTC, so i don't know what the future holds for either HTC in general, or the Pixel line.  Google still hasn't figured out how to do this properly.

This is tangential and not relevant to the conversation. The part of HTC that had a hand in the Pixel line is now fully owned by Google, and the Pixel 2 XL proves Google has no issues switching OEMs if there's an issue with HTC.

Don't compare a chromebook to an actual windows/mac laptop.

I wasn't, you're the one who brought laptops into the conversation, and they're a separate beast entirely. As I mentioned, it's not a fair comparison for either side.

They're not the same just because a Pixel chromebook sells for an absurdly high price (1k last i checked) which is fucking laughable.

What Chrome OS has historically lacked compared to macOS and Window is a variety of native apps, especially of the professional variety. That gap is getting smaller with Android and Linux app support, alongside work on a Windows dual boot option. The Pixelbook and Pixelbook 2 aren't worth the price for most people (as far as a $1000+ laptop is justifiable to anyone), but by the time of the Pixelbook 3 it may be. The hardware itself is certainly high-end and premium.

But none of this tackles the point i made why i stick with Apple. It's the overall integration between laptop,phone, watch, services. It's still the best out there. Not to mention Imessage, facetime, things that Google is just now trying to catch up on.

I'm glad you mention integration because there's strengths there Google does well and Apple doesn't (as vice-versa.) Google Drive blows iCloud out of the water. When will Apple "catch up" to Google Photos? Google Maps? Chromecast?

When will Apple get something like Project Fi or Voice? YouTube? Google Docs? Gmail? Nest's entire line of products? There's still many areas where Google integrates and Apple doesn't even bother, so it's difficult for me to accept "Apple's stuff is way more integrated" on its face. That only makes sense if by integrated you mean "exclusive to their hardware," but that's not really integration, it's lock-in.

I can say "Hey Google, show me my kitchen" and Google Home™ will throw my Nest Cam IQ™'s security feed onto my Chromecast™-enabled television. That's integration.

Google's "issue" in this area is that they don't pick favorites, and their services work well on all platforms. If anything, that hurts them, since if they suddenly switched to the "Apple way," you'd have a lot of sudden Android and Chrome OS conversions.

Fuck, most apps don't even come to android first, and some times when they do it's buggy as fuck.

If you have a recent, personal anecdote about an an app like this, I'd love to hear it, because it hasn't really been true for years. I don't see you as a Snapchat type, either.

If you prefer iOS and macOS, that's totally fine. But to imply you'd be lacking some kind of extra "magic" (the Apple version of Nintendo's "whimsy") by not picking Apple is totally false.
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: Assimilate on July 29, 2018, 09:58:49 PM

However, I do question the viability of a phone past three years. Hardware at that point is what tends to break down, especially the battery. In addition, I've heard nightmare stories about people updating old iPhones, not only to have headline features disabled but severe performance degradation too. I think three years is a perfectly viable update schedule -- more than that is appreciated, but less than that is unacceptable, and I agree with that notion.
Really? I think 4 years is the sweet spot. My phone has been perfectly fine (other than a battery change which all phones require at that point) and honestly if my phone wasn't lacking memory i could easily hold out. Maybe you don't feel the same way i do because of Androids roadmap and lack of utilization of old hardware? Apple is known for this though, their computers, phones, ipads,ipods they all have all been known to last.


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We're arguing over (at most) $50 here, I think I've proven my point.
Just from a quick glance i'd actually say the average price difference is closer to $100 and that's not insignificant for most people.

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This is tangential and not relevant to the conversation. The part of HTC that had a hand in the Pixel line is now fully owned by Google, and the Pixel 2 XL proves Google has no issues switching OEMs if there's an issue with HTC.
It is relevant because it can show there's a problem with Google's overall strategy. There's so much fracturing already with Google's product line anymore of it is not a good thing regardless how they can transition.

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I'm glad you mention integration because there's strengths there Google does well and Apple doesn't (as vice-versa.) Google Drive blows iCloud out of the water. When will Apple "catch up" to Google Photos? Google Maps? Chromecast?

When will Apple get something like Project Fi or Voice? YouTube? Google Docs? Gmail? Nest's entire line of products? There's still many areas where Google integrates and Apple doesn't even bother, so it's difficult for me to accept "Apple's stuff is way more integrated" on its face. That only makes sense if by integrated you mean "exclusive to their hardware," but that's not really integration, it's lock-in.

I can say "Hey Google, show me my kitchen" and Google Home™ will throw my Nest Cam IQ™'s security feed onto my Chromecast™-enabled television. That's integration.

Google's "issue" in this area is that they don't pick favorites, and their services work well on all platforms. If anything, that hurts them, since if they suddenly switched to the "Apple way," you'd have a lot of sudden Android and Chrome OS conversions.
Yeah, look i agree with you there and that's why i pointed out Siri as huge problem for Apple. That level of integration Google has with those services is definitely a plus when you add them with Google's voice assistant. However, the other things can still be utilized in IOS so it diminishes the advantage a bit. You don't have Imessage and Facetime on Google. I know it doesn't mean much to some people but it is pretty big.

Icloud is the other point i wanted to throw in there that Apple has to tackle. icloud fucking blows. I'm in total agreement with that but even so it's not like most people switch to google drive, they switch to dropbox ( blows my mind apple just didn't simply scoop them up)


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If you have a recent, personal anecdote about an an app like this, I'd love to hear it, because it hasn't really been true for years. I don't see you as a Snapchat type, either.

If you prefer iOS and macOS, that's totally fine. But to imply you'd be lacking some kind of extra "magic" (the Apple version of Nintendo's "whimsy") by not picking Apple is totally false.
Didn't fortnite not even come out for Android yet? Most major apps dont' come to android first, and from my memory (granted this is from a few years ago) facebook, insta, all these huge apps people care about were always slightly inferior on Android. But like you said the gap is closing, i'm sure of that, but the overall offering and ecosystem Apple has is still unmatched, regardless if the gap is closing. We're talking about RIGHT NOW.

I'm not a blind Apple fanboy. I used to be a complete evangelist, urging people to switch to Apple but that was in the late 90s early 2000s. Now i want people to switch out. Apple is too big, too bloated. There's major problems in the company that have yet to be addressed including the ones we mentioned Siri, Icloud, home offerings, etc .
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: Tasty on July 29, 2018, 10:14:39 PM
Re: Updates - The update situation probably doesn't bother me as much as it should because 1. I've always stuck with Google's phones (first Nexus, then Pixel), and 2. past the two year mark, historically, the newest phones seem so shiny and awesome that I couldn't stand waiting another 1-2 years to upgrade. Camera improvements were particularly stark in the transition from Nexus to Pixel. Plus, there's battery degradation, which affects all phones to some degree. Going forward, all OS updates are seeing diminishing returns, so it may start to bother me more going forward. For the time being, three years still seems like a really good amount.

Re: Resale values - Like I said, resale values work on a long timescale. But you're right, there's a non-insignificant different today.

Re: HTC - I'm actually unsure if Google is even dependent on them for anything substantial anymore. They paid over $1 billion for over 2000 HTC engineers and designers, so the only thing they may be using at this point is HTC's factories, and they can transition to another (like Foxconn) even more easily than when they dumped HTC's original Pixel 2 XL (https://www.theverge.com/2017/11/2/16598218/google-pixel-2xl-htc-u11-plus-design-plans-change) for LG's version.

Re: Messaging - It's easily the biggest area Google's fumbled and Apple's been killing it there for over a decade, so the difference is even more stark. It's so key to the mobile experience that it's hard to believe Google has bungled it so hard. If someone says they're staying with iPhone for iMessage, I completely understand that decision. I just don't accept that Apple's services are "more integrated" with the hardware, with that statement being a "pro" for buying Apple hardware.
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: Tasty on July 29, 2018, 10:23:25 PM
Also yes, it's mindblowing Apple hasn't bought Dropbox (though I think they tried?), just like it's crazy to me Google hasn't shelled out WhatsApp-level cash for an established messenger. All that bluster over Allo only for it to be killed off in less than two years, just like everyone expected. That's what's really crazy to me -- that they expected Allo to take off at all.

Now they're pinning all their hopes on RCS but that needs so much buy-in from so many companies in so many different industries (telecom, phone OEM, app) that there's almost no way it creates the messaging panacea Android users want and deserve. Bleh.
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: Tasty on July 29, 2018, 10:29:49 PM
Thinking about it a little more, I think Google was probably pressured out of the messaging game by phone OEMs and telecoms. For a few OS updates there, Hangouts was a required Google app, but then suddenly it wasn't. I'm sure OEM/telcos wouldn't be happy if there *was* a first party iMessage equivalent that everyone just used, since there's so much money in the mobile messaging game.

Not to mention the EU probably fining them a gajillion dollars for trying to "own" the messaging experience.

Another detriment to being "open" I suppose. :goty2
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: Tasty on July 29, 2018, 10:53:19 PM
Getting back on topic, Apple's ditching Qualcomm modems in new iPhones for Intel (https://www.theverge.com/2018/7/25/17614930/apple-iphone-2018-intel-cellular-modems-qualcomm-legal-dispute), which means a 1-2 year lag in 5G support, and much slower/more power-intensive LTE modems on current networks.

Gotta love Apple's completely frivolous lawsuits!
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: nudemacusers on July 29, 2018, 11:02:16 PM
Go to macrumors u figgurts :no1curr
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: Tasty on July 29, 2018, 11:03:57 PM
Do your ten kids get iPhones or is that just a Daddy Privilege?  :foodcourt
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: Tasty on July 29, 2018, 11:04:48 PM
Also I made this great extension that can hide threads you don't like, you should try it.
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: nudemacusers on July 29, 2018, 11:06:50 PM
Your hiding extension is only for Firefox and chrome and I don’t hate myself enough to slum with those also ran browsers :nope
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: Tasty on July 29, 2018, 11:07:16 PM
Oh right I forgot you use the garbage fire that is Safari. :lol
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: Tasty on July 29, 2018, 11:07:48 PM
Does Safari even have extensions, or would that take users too far outside Apple's precious walled comfort zone?
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: Tasty on July 29, 2018, 11:09:51 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/P7FngoJ.png)

Which one's the "also ran" again? :foodcourt
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: Assimilate on July 29, 2018, 11:11:48 PM
I use Chrome on OSX right now because of the extensions but Safari as of right now with this new rollout coming out is going to have much better web support for privacy. I know Google is saying they will be implementing their own high measures but do you really trust Google with your information? I tend to trust Apple more rightfully or not.


Plus, a lot of the extensions i use on Chrome are now on Safari.  But we'll see once the new OSX comes out if i truly do switch out of Chrome.
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: nudemacusers on July 29, 2018, 11:14:05 PM
59 percent of the population also voted killary and look where that got us

Assimilate bb ur missing out on handoff if you’re not using safari
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: Tasty on July 29, 2018, 11:19:56 PM
Handoff?

Safari would need to offer handjobs to get me to use it. And then probably not even then.
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: Tasty on July 29, 2018, 11:20:25 PM
Hey guys remember the 90s when browser updates were tied to OS updates?

Oh wait that's still the case for Safari. :crowdlaff
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: Assimilate on July 29, 2018, 11:21:42 PM
59 percent of the population also voted killary and look where that got us

Assimilate bb ur missing out on handoff if you’re not using safari
Oh, i know. handoff is nice. I'll probably give Safari a go again after the update.

 
Hey guys remember the 90s when browser updates were tied to OS updates?

Oh wait that's still the case for Safari. :crowdlaff
But it's not. Sometimes it is, sometimes it's not. Depends on how big the update is. And major browser updates are so fucking sparse anyways so what are you even complaining about?
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: Tasty on July 29, 2018, 11:28:25 PM
You have no idea how much easier our lives as developers get every six weeks when a new Chrome updates hits, and how much better the web gets overall as a result. If Chrome, Edge, and Firefox updated like Safari, the web would still be trapped in 2008.

Then again Apple's the black sheep of the web standardization community anyways, taking years to implement things like WebGL, IndexedDB, and so much else. It got so bad that Safari's been dubbed the new IE6. (https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2015/06/op-ed-safari-is-the-new-internet-explorer/)

I thank God every day Safari isn't more popular than it already egregiously is.

Say you don't care about technical shit all you want, but this does trickle down to end users. If you think something about the web is shitty, it's likely because Apple's holding everyone back.
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: nudemacusers on July 29, 2018, 11:28:30 PM
Taking a call on your phone, moving it to your computer, then moving it to your iPad, then back to your phone :lawd
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: Tasty on July 29, 2018, 11:31:50 PM
Taking a call on your phone, moving it to your computer, then moving it to your iPad, then back to your phone :lawd


There is no way anyone actually does this. :lol

I do enjoy making calls on my PC, but that's something Google Voice has been able to do since 2009. Can an untethered Mac do that? :idont
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: Assimilate on July 29, 2018, 11:33:19 PM
Taking a call on your phone, moving it to your computer, then moving it to your iPad, then back to your phone :lawd


There is no way anyone actually does this. :lol

well not on that level but taking it on your computer and then moving it to your phone yeah all the time. It's great.
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: nudemacusers on July 29, 2018, 11:36:29 PM
I answer cellular calls on my Mac/iPad all the time and then bounce to my phone if I’m going to the car etc.
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: Tasty on July 29, 2018, 11:41:02 PM
Yeah I can see it being handy but that example was just too much lol.

Also: talking on the phone :donot
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: nudemacusers on July 30, 2018, 12:04:55 AM
Also: talking on the phone :donot
True :holeup
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: kingv on July 30, 2018, 12:25:57 AM
Yeah I can see it being handy but that example was just too much lol.

Also: talking on the phone :donot

I applied for a loan the other day and didn’t take it because they required me to talk on the phone.

Nah, fam, I’m not talking to you.
Title: Re: Fuck you Apple
Post by: jorma on July 30, 2018, 01:19:29 AM
The title of this thread is grossly misleading, "fuck me apple (again and again)" would be a more relevant title.
there's simply no other alternative that offers everything apple does though. it's that complete integration that keeps me there despite the bullshit they pull with the "apple tax"

i mean just look at that android google thread. people talking about 'we get 2 year support with a pixel" like wtf? 2 years of software updates? that's fucking laughable. i've had my iphone6 and macbook air for over 4 years and they're both working perfectly fine and if i didn't have the desire to upgrade i could stick it out with this phone for at least another year, and this laptop for a solid 3 more years if not more.

not to mention the resale value on apple products is much higher so you tend to recoup some of that "apple tax" anyways.

oh yeah, right up the ass, that's the spot. fuck me harder, apple!
Title: Re: oh yeah, right up the ass, that's the spot. fuck me harder, apple!
Post by: Tasty on July 30, 2018, 01:46:56 AM
Thanks for the thread title idea. 👌🏻
Title: Re: oh yeah, right up the ass, that's the spot. fuck me harder, apple!
Post by: Himu on July 30, 2018, 01:49:55 AM
Lost my iPhone the other week. Turned on find my iPhone when I got home. Had it returned within a day.

Co-worker loses her (android) phone, doesn’t have find my phone option, and her phone is still lost.

:rejoice APPLE :rejoice
Title: Re: oh yeah, right up the ass, that's the spot. fuck me harder, apple!
Post by: Tasty on July 30, 2018, 02:02:32 AM
https://www.google.com/android/find

:confused

Also, who loses their phone? Like you're literally a loser in that case lmao.

Edit 11/21/18 - Ironically, I would eventually lose my phone about two months after I made this initial post. I was/am a loser. :(
Title: Re: oh yeah, right up the ass, that's the spot. fuck me harder, apple!
Post by: Himu on July 30, 2018, 02:21:50 AM
I work at a car rental place and someone drove off with it
Title: Re: oh yeah, right up the ass, that's the spot. fuck me harder, apple!
Post by: seagrams hotsauce on July 30, 2018, 04:30:06 AM
i lose my phone in my house on what seems like a bi-daily basis. not all of use have such spry minds young man
Title: Re: oh yeah, right up the ass, that's the spot. fuck me harder, apple!
Post by: headwalk on July 30, 2018, 06:36:04 AM
people in creative industries who justify buying macbook pros because they "need a powerful laptop for work" almost universally work with still media or do a bit of render light FCP at best.

anyone in animation or CG who genuinely needs a bit of grunt left the ship long ago.
Title: Re: oh yeah, right up the ass, that's the spot. fuck me harder, apple!
Post by: Himu on July 30, 2018, 07:32:06 AM
people in creative industries who justify buying macbook pros because they "need a powerful laptop for work" almost universally work with still media or do a bit of render light FCP at best.

anyone in animation or CG who genuinely needs a bit of grunt left the ship long ago.

Final cut used to be the reason to own a Mac if you edited video. Not so much these days I assume. Haven’t touched that biz in a long time.
Title: Re: Generic Apple bitch thread
Post by: headwalk on July 30, 2018, 08:20:42 AM
X was the turning point for most people. industry is split now between people using premier because it's easy to use and has better AE functionality and avid spergs who stick with the film industry standards.

just being able to copy and paste between prem and AE is everything for me.
Title: Re: Generic Apple bitch thread
Post by: Assimilate on July 30, 2018, 11:32:58 AM
I'd imagine most of these youtube 'creative' types are on macbooks. it's all i see any of them use but none of it even requires a machine of the power of that i9.  who will actually buy that thing and for what?
Title: Re: Generic Apple bitch thread
Post by: Tasty on July 30, 2018, 11:36:28 AM
X was the turning point for most people. industry is split now between people using premier because it's easy to use and has better AE functionality and avid spergs who stick with the film industry standards.

just being able to copy and paste between prem and AE is everything for me.


I fucking love Premiere. <3
Title: Re: Generic Apple bitch thread
Post by: Tasty on July 30, 2018, 11:36:44 AM
Also, new title is much worse. :yeshrug
Title: Re: Generic Apple bitch thread
Post by: nachobro on July 30, 2018, 11:47:28 AM
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Generic Apple bitch
it me
Title: Re: Generic Apple bitch thread
Post by: Corporal on July 30, 2018, 02:02:30 PM
Still annoyed as fuck that Apple went with Metal or whatever the fuck they cooked up instead of jumping from OpenGL to Vulkan like they should have.

Still have an OpenGL bible stashed away somewhere.

And now OpenGL and -CL are deprecated in MacOS, soon to be forgotten. So sad.  :'(
Title: Re: Generic Apple bitch thread
Post by: Tasty on July 30, 2018, 02:22:12 PM
I mean, most devs are going to be using Unity or whatever which will spit out platform-specific versions pretty easily, but even still Apple's constant attempts to reinvent the wheel irk me.

At the very least, they confirmed WebGL is sticking around in Safari (just being translated to Metal), which means you can still use an OpenGL derivative, it'll just be in the browser. That's not super viable for mainstream games, but WebAssembly is arriving soon which should make it good enough for indies. Who knows though, I stopped applying logic to dev and publisher technology decisions a while ago.
Title: Re: Generic Apple bitch thread
Post by: headwalk on July 30, 2018, 02:50:37 PM
it's all i see any of them use but none of it even requires a machine of the power of that i9.

well it's not like the pro lets you use the power of that i9 without throttling the shit out of it anyway.
Title: Re: Generic Apple bitch thread
Post by: Tasty on July 30, 2018, 02:51:29 PM
it's all i see any of them use but none of it even requires a machine of the power of that i9.

well it's not like the pro lets you use the power of that i9 without throttling the shit out of it anyway.

There's an "update" coming to "fix" that.

Once again Apple rides in with a fix for a big problem... that they themselves made.
Title: Re: Generic Apple bitch thread
Post by: Assimilate on July 30, 2018, 07:48:57 PM
it's all i see any of them use but none of it even requires a machine of the power of that i9.

well it's not like the pro lets you use the power of that i9 without throttling the shit out of it anyway.

it's all i see any of them use but none of it even requires a machine of the power of that i9.

well it's not like the pro lets you use the power of that i9 without throttling the shit out of it anyway.

There's an "update" coming to "fix" that.

Once again Apple rides in with a fix for a big problem... that they themselves made.
It was a bug which could have been something to do with intel, no one really knows yet.

And stop, this type of stuff happens all the time. Let's not even get into the clusterfuck that is windows and window laptop problems or worse, Google and their inability to get decent smooth scrolling into Android until like 2 years ago. Apple is really fast with their software updates and bug fixes.

Let's keep the complaints rational.

Title: Re: Generic Apple bitch thread
Post by: Tasty on July 30, 2018, 08:14:32 PM
This thread is for all Apple bitching, no matter how petty. ;)
Title: Re: Generic Apple bitch thread
Post by: Crash Dummy on July 31, 2018, 02:13:16 AM
have we bitched about how upgrading the hdd on the new macbooks costs as much as another computer? like how is this remotely justifiable, i thought hard discs are meant to be really cheap now?
Title: Re: Generic Apple bitch thread
Post by: Rufus on July 31, 2018, 06:24:23 AM
Well, they only offer SSDs now. While they're steadily falling, they're nowhere near HDDs yet. The higher the capacity, the higher the premium.

That being said, the Apple tax is hefty.

The mark-up is worst for the 13-inch, it seems. For the cheapest 13-inch Pro, doubling capacity from 128GB (two 64GB chips, I assume; the board fits four) to 256GB adds 200$. 256GB M.2 SSD drives can be had for less than half that.
Soldering two more chips onto the board cannot possibly be that much more expensive. :doge 400$ for 512GB and 800$ for 1TB. You can get 2TB drives for that. :rofl
Title: Re: Generic Apple bitch thread
Post by: chronovore on July 31, 2018, 08:07:22 AM
Also, new title is much worse. :yeshrug

Change it to "Apple's Basic Bitch Thread" :teehee
Title: Re: Generic Apple bitch thread
Post by: thisismyusername on July 31, 2018, 09:27:06 AM
Soldering two more chips onto the board cannot possibly be that much more expensive. :doge 400$ for 512GB and 800$ for 1TB. You can get 2TB drives for that. :rofl

Gotta pay the Chinese workers pay for the Made in the USA tax. :doge
Title: Re: Generic Apple bitch thread
Post by: brawndolicious on July 31, 2018, 10:39:31 AM
They solder the SSDs? The other ultrabooks just use a regular M.2 socket. If you're being super gentle with the bottom cover, it probably takes 5-10 minutes to change it yourself.

Honestly, it would probably be cheaper if they just used socketed SSDs and the competition is just as thin (or thinner). Maybe it's to force you to overbuy initially but I think it would be in Apple's interest to take less mark-up on Macbooks to get people fully into their ecosystem. Everyone knows they make their real money on iPhones and the App store.
Title: Re: Generic Apple bitch thread
Post by: Rufus on July 31, 2018, 10:46:36 AM
They solder the SSDs? The other ultrabooks just use a regular M.2 socket. If you're being super gentle with the bottom cover, it probably takes 5-10 minutes to change it yourself.

Honestly, it would probably be cheaper if they just used socketed SSDs and the competition is just as thin (or thinner). Maybe it's to force you to overbuy initially but I think it would be in Apple's interest to take less mark-up on Macbooks to get people fully into their ecosystem. Everyone knows they make their real money on iPhones and the App store.
Yeah, the entire thing is integrated on the board. Older Pros had an M.2 slot, I'm pretty sure, but not anymore. Tight margins. :marimo


Title: Re: Generic Apple bitch thread
Post by: Brehvolution on July 31, 2018, 10:48:20 AM
It's soldered to the board for one reason:

 :cody So you can't upgrade it :cody

:money
Title: Re: Apple Basic Bitch Thread
Post by: Tasty on July 31, 2018, 11:06:32 AM
Also, new title is much worse. :yeshrug

Change it to "Apple's Basic Bitch Thread" :teehee

(https://media.giphy.com/media/12ZDIx1Mw1cXVm/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: Generic Apple bitch thread
Post by: Assimilate on July 31, 2018, 11:50:18 AM
Well, they only offer SSDs now. While they're steadily falling, they're nowhere near HDDs yet. The higher the capacity, the higher the premium.

That being said, the Apple tax is hefty.

The mark-up is worst for the 13-inch, it seems. For the cheapest 13-inch Pro, doubling capacity from 128GB (two 64GB chips, I assume; the board fits four) to 256GB adds 200$. 256GB M.2 SSD drives can be had for less than half that.
Soldering two more chips onto the board cannot possibly be that much more expensive. :doge 400$ for 512GB and 800$ for 1TB. You can get 2TB drives for that. :rofl
This is my number 1 problem with Apple. Like why nickel and dime your goddamn customers.

Main reason why i won't jump to a pro right now. I rather have the extra ram/and memory into a less powerful computer. Im' hoping they come out with either a 13inch macbook or a new macbook air where i can max out the ram and memory.
Title: Re: Apple Basic Bitch Thread
Post by: Kara on August 02, 2018, 02:48:36 PM
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2018/08/lisa-brennan-jobs-small-fry-steve-jobs-daughter/
Title: Re: Apple Basic Bitch Thread
Post by: chronovore on August 02, 2018, 09:10:52 PM
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2018/08/lisa-brennan-jobs-small-fry-steve-jobs-daughter/

What an asshole.
Title: Re: Apple Basic Bitch Thread
Post by: Assimilate on August 25, 2018, 10:43:38 AM
I've made the choice to upgrade my phone this september. Now the question is to what.

Do i go with the X? the 8? or whatever new one apple comes out with?

Or do i fucking switch? Seriously, if Android wasn't such a cluttered fucking mess i'd switch. I was playing around with a friends (i think) Asus. The thing was razor thin, light, borderless with tons of memory and a replaceable battery. And she got it for like $500 bucks.

I'm sick of this Apple bullshit but they got us prisoners.
Title: Re: Apple Basic Bitch Thread
Post by: Tasty on August 25, 2018, 11:22:59 AM
ASUS? :nope

Pixel :ohyeah
Title: Re: Apple Basic Bitch Thread
Post by: Assimilate on August 25, 2018, 03:20:38 PM
I was just thinking today that Apple needs a cheaper phone with the internals and screen of the X but without all the fucking glass. The phone is beautiful, all the Iphones are, but no one fucking sees it or uses it without a case most of the time unless they're rich fuckers that don't care.

Even with apple care insurance i still put a case on my phones. It's pretty stupid because i'm sure 90% of users use these phones with a case.
Title: Re: Apple Basic Bitch Thread
Post by: Brehvolution on August 27, 2018, 11:19:39 AM
I'll take the degraded look on my X in a clear case rather than risk scratches or shatters without one. But I do sometimes take it out of the case and fondle it. :shaq
Title: Re: Apple Basic Bitch Thread
Post by: nudemacusers on August 27, 2018, 01:56:42 PM
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2018/08/lisa-brennan-jobs-small-fry-steve-jobs-daughter/
I knew the guy was an asshole on the subject of his daughter but it takes a real cold motherfucker to say that kind of shit to your kid’s face. What a psycho.

Ew gross he asslicked bono. Prob worse than being a horrible father tbh.
Title: Re: Apple Basic Bitch Thread
Post by: nudemacusers on August 27, 2018, 02:04:43 PM
ASUS? :nope

Pixel :ohyeah
Lol seriously if you’re getting a droid at least don’t get some oem also ran shit.
Title: Re: Apple Basic Bitch Thread
Post by: bork on August 27, 2018, 02:13:40 PM
:bow Pixel :bow2
Title: Re: Apple Basic Bitch Thread
Post by: kingv on August 27, 2018, 02:46:21 PM
I’ve gotten so used to using my phones with a case that they feel overly skinny and hard to use without one.

Also, Jobs is a mega asshole, like a truly horrible person apparently up until the day he died. I do like how the daughter is trying to spin all of it into “he was giving me life lessons” and is frustrated this story is about him when it’s her memoir.

Like, the only reason people give a shit about your memoir is because of your famous dad.

 :mindblown
Title: Re: Apple Basic Bitch Thread
Post by: Assimilate on August 27, 2018, 04:37:19 PM
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2018/08/lisa-brennan-jobs-small-fry-steve-jobs-daughter/
I knew the guy was an asshole on the subject of his daughter but it takes a real cold motherfucker to say that kind of shit to your kid’s face. What a psycho.
That's not shocking though. Most of the great CEOs are complete psychos. You kinda have to be.

Also, he never wanted her, or the mother. He probably resented her a lot but eventually came around.
Title: Re: Apple Basic Bitch Thread
Post by: Assimilate on September 09, 2018, 06:30:34 PM
3 days until the apple event.

the big reveal for me won't be the Xs but the rumored cheaper 6.1 inch model https://appleinsider.com/articles/18/09/09/purported-61-inch-lcd-iphone-xc-shown-off-on-social-media

I don't want the whole glass back and 'look at how luxurious my phone is' I just want an affordable Iphone with good specs and a nice screen.

I don't really get the 6.1 ratio though... why would they do that? Why not just make an Iphone X but without the glass? This leaves me a bit confused especially since there's apparently going to be an Xs+ model as well.
Title: Re: Apple Basic Bitch Thread
Post by: Brehvolution on September 10, 2018, 09:56:59 AM
On the Romanian(?) telco site that is taking pre-orders has a 512GB XS+ for almost $1700US.  :lol
Title: Re: Apple Basic Bitch Thread
Post by: Assimilate on September 12, 2018, 06:53:15 PM
I don't really get the 6.1 ratio though... why would they do that? Why not just make an Iphone X but without the glass? This leaves me a bit confused especially since there's apparently going to be an Xs+ model as well.

Because it's a cheaper screen both tech and size.  They don't necessarily make OLED panels the same size / shape as LCD ones.
I guess. $750 price point. I"m down with that but then the fucking release date is mid to late Oct? WTF.

Another shitty Apple event. Just new phones and a new watch. No Macbook air, or any new product. Awful.
Title: Re: Apple Basic Bitch Thread
Post by: TVC15 on September 12, 2018, 08:57:12 PM
I’m in for the iPhone Ex Plus Alpha.
Title: Re: Apple Basic Bitch Thread
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on September 13, 2018, 02:55:59 AM
No small iPhone means my wife is going to go Android for sure.

Really don't get why they arent making one small phone.
Title: Re: Apple Basic Bitch Thread
Post by: chronovore on September 13, 2018, 03:39:39 AM
No small iPhone means my wife is going to go Android for sure.

Really don't get why they arent making one small phone.

"Courage."
Title: Re: Apple Basic Bitch Thread
Post by: Crash Dummy on September 13, 2018, 07:44:20 AM
No small iPhone means my wife is going to go Android for sure.

Really don't get why they arent making one small phone.
how small a phone does she want? i have small hands and am fine with the x
Title: Re: Apple Basic Bitch Thread
Post by: kingv on September 13, 2018, 08:46:27 AM
I just had purify off for a few days and was kind of surprised how bad the hijacked web pages and malicious redirects have gotten on an iphone. I was getting redirects even when trying to click through to pretty vanilla ass web pages like eBay and huffingtonpost straight from google.

I'm not even really sure how it occurs or the method of infection .
Title: Re: Apple Basic Bitch Thread
Post by: chronovore on September 13, 2018, 11:30:33 AM
No small iPhone means my wife is going to go Android for sure.

Really don't get why they arent making one small phone.
how small a phone does she want? i have small hands and am fine with the x

I think the point is that the SE could easily get a refresh and be a popular model.
Title: Re: Apple Basic Bitch Thread
Post by: Brehvolution on September 13, 2018, 12:06:02 PM
Still giggling over the XR being the "cheap" model at $750.
Title: Re: Apple Basic Bitch Thread
Post by: Yeti on September 13, 2018, 01:03:51 PM
I think it is finally time to upgrade my iPhone 5s. When my air conditioning died for a week, the extreme heat in my apartment seems to have overheated the battery causing it to expand and push the screen out. The protective case I have it in seems to be holding everything in place for now, but I'm thinking it's only a matter of time before it dies.
Title: Re: Apple Basic Bitch Thread
Post by: Assimilate on September 13, 2018, 04:17:25 PM
I think it is finally time to upgrade my iPhone 5s. When my air conditioning died for a week, the extreme heat in my apartment seems to have overheated the battery causing it to expand and push the screen out. The protective case I have it in seems to be holding everything in place for now, but I'm thinking it's only a matter of time before it dies.

 :kobeyuck

here i was thinking i stretched out my Iphone 6 too long
Title: Re: Apple Basic Bitch Thread
Post by: Yeti on September 13, 2018, 06:29:37 PM
It was working fine up until then, there really wasn't a reason to upgrade.

 :trumps
Title: Re: Apple Basic Bitch Thread
Post by: Assimilate on September 13, 2018, 07:08:19 PM
Don't these phones chug? I was using my friends cheap 2018 android and that was zipping fast compared to my 2014 Iphone 6.

Now comparing the Iphone X to my 6  :-X

The X is insanely fast
Title: Re: Apple Basic Bitch Thread
Post by: Yeti on September 13, 2018, 09:32:43 PM
Actually it's weird, I haven't really experienced any slowdown issues with my 5s like I did with previous iphones. The only slow down issue I really have with it is loading different emoji keyboards in imessage, it sometimes takes a few seconds to switch between keyboards.
Title: Re: Apple Basic Bitch Thread
Post by: Assimilate on September 13, 2018, 09:56:57 PM
Actually it's weird, I haven't really experienced any slowdown issues with my 5s like I did with previous iphones. The only slow down issue I really have with it is loading different emoji keyboards in imessage, it sometimes takes a few seconds to switch between keyboards.
Walk into a store and try the new phones then test how your phone feels.

Also, wow $270 for applecare on all X phones. Unbelievable.  They're really going nuts aren't they.


BUt that dual slim slot with both being active is pretty darn cool and useful for me. I think the Xr it is.
Title: Re: Apple Basic Bitch Thread
Post by: TVC15 on September 13, 2018, 10:14:47 PM
Ugh, need to stay up until midnight to preorder but I’m in a lot of pain today and just want to toke and pass out.
Title: Re: Apple Basic Bitch Thread
Post by: thisismyusername on September 13, 2018, 11:37:58 PM
I think it is finally time to upgrade my iPhone 5s. When my air conditioning died for a week, the extreme heat in my apartment seems to have overheated the battery causing it to expand and push the screen out. The protective case I have it in seems to be holding everything in place for now, but I'm thinking it's only a matter of time before it dies.

You need to replace that shit fast and take that battery to a tech recycle center pronto. That shit will explode soon.

(Though since a lot of dumpster fires happen at a Tech recycle center... maybe you should look for a "safe"  :doge :doge :doge :doge :doge way of exploding it yourself. :doge :doge :doge :doge :doge :doge :doge :doge)
Title: Re: Apple Basic Bitch Thread
Post by: bork on September 14, 2018, 08:17:17 AM
No smaller model means it's time for articles to come out about how the writer doesn't miss their smaller phone and that Apple was right to take away the choice of model types.  :doge

It was working fine up until then, there really wasn't a reason to upgrade.

 :trumps

So why not just get the battery replaced?
Title: Re: Apple Basic Bitch Thread
Post by: kingv on September 14, 2018, 09:02:36 AM
Especially now that battery replacement has gotten cheap.

I’ve moved onto the leasing train. As long as my carrier keeps giving me deals every 18 months to trump, I’ll probably keep doing it. I think I’m paying $15 a month for a 7 or something like that.
Title: Re: Apple Basic Bitch Thread
Post by: Brehvolution on September 14, 2018, 09:09:52 AM
Actually it's weird, I haven't really experienced any slowdown issues with my 5s like I did with previous iphones. The only slow down issue I really have with it is loading different emoji keyboards in imessage, it sometimes takes a few seconds to switch between keyboards.
Walk into a store and try the new phones then test how your phone feels.

Also, wow $270 for applecare on all X phones. Unbelievable.  They're really going nuts aren't they.


BUt that dual slim slot with both being active is pretty darn cool and useful for me. I think the Xr it is.

Why would you pay for applecare if your carrier already offers insurance?  ???
Title: Re: Apple Basic Bitch Thread
Post by: Mupepe on September 14, 2018, 09:27:33 AM
Bah. I haven’t bought an expensive phone in ages, but I got an 8+ as a gift last year and really liked it so I just preordered the 256gb max in space gray.
Title: Re: Apple Basic Bitch Thread
Post by: TVC15 on September 14, 2018, 09:45:46 AM
Bah. I haven’t bought an expensive phone in ages, but I got an 8+ as a gift last year and really liked it so I just preordered the 256gb max in space gray.

I got a 256gb space gray max, too. We better not get our phones confused when we’re ass fucking.
Title: Re: Apple Basic Bitch Thread
Post by: Brehvolution on September 14, 2018, 10:08:02 AM
How much was it?
Title: Re: Apple Basic Bitch Thread
Post by: kingv on September 14, 2018, 10:36:44 AM
AppleCare+ has been a rip-off for a long time. All phone insurance is unless you break your phone screen on the regular.

Replacing the XR screen is expensive... but you only save like $200 once you factor in the cost of AppleCare and you’re out $270 no matter what

I wonder if AppleCare will be cheaper on the non-oled phones.
Title: Re: Apple Basic Bitch Thread
Post by: Mupepe on September 14, 2018, 11:07:11 AM
Bah. I haven’t bought an expensive phone in ages, but I got an 8+ as a gift last year and really liked it so I just preordered the 256gb max in space gray.

I got a 256gb space gray max, too. We better not get our phones confused when we’re ass fucking.
Why would that be a bad thing? I’ll just save a bunch of my nudies in your camera.

How much was it?
$1249 I think. I’ll be honest. I didn’t really look so that I wouldn’t doubt myself before I purchased.

Do they really require signatures for delivery? It said it did but I won’t be home on Friday when delivery bros come.
Title: Re: Apple Basic Bitch Thread
Post by: Assimilate on September 14, 2018, 11:44:37 AM


I wonder if AppleCare will be cheaper on the non-oled phones.
It's the same price for all X phones.
Title: Re: Apple Basic Bitch Thread
Post by: Assimilate on September 17, 2018, 03:59:50 PM
for the love of god why is iphoto and icloud such fucking garbage. it's a pile fo fucking garbagegggggeeee.

someone help me out. i want to make sure my photos can go to the cloud, but i don't want a potential nude popping up every time i open my goddamn photo app or log into a device and have pics start downloading to that fucking device.

anyone? and i can't stand how apple has a bullshit "hidden" photos folder which is not actually hidden. seriously, they're fucking distinguished mentally-challenged. that whole cloud computing team needs to be wiped out and handed pink slips.

(maybe i should use my prime photos to store stuff there. i share it with my brother. if we have two different profiles he can't see them right?)
Title: Re: Apple Basic Bitch Thread
Post by: brawndolicious on September 17, 2018, 08:21:00 PM
It's uncouth* to keep nudes for more than a day.

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*can also be considered problematic**

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**may also use gross***

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***just save them in a Google drive folder and delete the local copy if you really, really got to keep them.
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Title: Re: Apple Basic Bitch Thread
Post by: Assimilate on September 17, 2018, 08:35:15 PM
It's uncouth* to keep nudes for more than a day.

spoiler (click to show/hide)
*can also be considered problematic**

spoiler (click to show/hide)
**may also use gross***

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***just save them in a Google drive folder and delete the local copy if you really, really got to keep them.
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it's more than just that. it's the fact that if you delete off your phone the fotos are gone completely. it's so unintuitive and you have to drop through hoops. i've decided on going with amazon drive since i get unlimited photo storage with prime.
Title: Re: Apple Basic Bitch Thread
Post by: kingv on September 17, 2018, 10:24:55 PM
Why do you share nudes with your brother?!
Title: Re: Apple Basic Bitch Thread
Post by: Assimilate on September 17, 2018, 11:48:01 PM
Why do you share nudes with your brother?!
  ::)


so i just realized the Xr screen isn't even 1080p

unbelievable  :snoop
Title: Re: Apple Basic Bitch Thread
Post by: thisismyusername on September 18, 2018, 12:50:19 AM
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2018/08/lisa-brennan-jobs-small-fry-steve-jobs-daughter/
I knew the guy was an asshole on the subject of his daughter but it takes a real cold motherfucker to say that kind of shit to your kid’s face. What a psycho.
That's not shocking though. Most of the great CEOs are complete psychos. You kinda have to be.

Also, he never wanted her, or the mother. He probably resented her a lot but eventually came around.

I dunno about the CEO claim. But yeah: It's been known for a long while that Jobs treated Lisa and her mom like shit.

For as much as he was an asshole (and it's a huge notable thing) as a person: Jobs could market shit like it wasn't shit and people would buy it. Apple post-him hasn't had the same "magic" as it had under him.
Title: Re: Apple Basic Bitch Thread
Post by: Assimilate on September 18, 2018, 12:55:42 AM


For as much as he was an asshole (and it's a huge notable thing) as a person: Jobs could market shit like it wasn't shit and people would buy it. Apple post-him hasn't had the same "magic" as it had under him.
Right, since there is no super asshole maniac guiding the ship everyone seems content taking home nice paychecks and sitting on their asses.

- siri still sucks
- iphoto still sucks
- itunes still sucks
- icloud still sucks
- Mac OS hasn't changed much
- Ios hasn't changed much

Apple is the new Microsoft.
Title: Re: Apple Basic Bitch Thread
Post by: Coax on September 18, 2018, 01:11:57 AM
For as much as he was an asshole (and it's a huge notable thing) as a person: Jobs could market shit like it wasn't shit and people would buy it. Apple post-him hasn't had the same "magic" as it had under him.

Steve deserves all the praise and criticism he's given, is the way I see it. One thing doesn't cancel the other out imo. He was the driving force of the company's spirit for the longest time during their most innovative periods.

(That said I still think the Newton had innovative features)
Title: Re: Apple Basic Bitch Thread
Post by: chronovore on September 18, 2018, 06:09:49 AM
For as much as he was an asshole (and it's a huge notable thing) as a person: Jobs could market shit like it wasn't shit and people would buy it. Apple post-him hasn't had the same "magic" as it had under him.

Steve deserves all the praise and criticism he's given, is the way I see it. One thing doesn't cancel the other out imo. He was the driving force of the company's spirit for the longest time during their most innovative periods.

(That said I still think the Newton had innovative features)

The Newton was an interesting piece of kit, to be sure. Unfortunately the support for early adopters was atrocious.
Title: Re: Apple Basic Bitch Thread
Post by: Assimilate on September 18, 2018, 10:29:44 AM
And despite all i said above i won't dare go to Android.

IOS12 just came out and made my iphone 6 feel practically new again.
Title: Re: Apple Basic Bitch Thread
Post by: kingv on September 18, 2018, 10:50:24 AM
Why do you share nudes with your brother?!
  ::)


so i just realized the Xr screen isn't even 1080p

unbelievable  :snoop

Xr doesn’t even have 3D Touch!

This probably means my next iPhone will be an 8. No damn way am I paying $1k for a phone.
Title: Re: Apple Basic Bitch Thread
Post by: nachobro on September 18, 2018, 11:01:01 AM
iOS 12 :rejoice

My phone runs so much smoother now. 11 really sucked donkey balls
Title: Re: Apple Basic Bitch Thread
Post by: bork on September 18, 2018, 11:26:31 AM
For as much as he was an asshole (and it's a huge notable thing) as a person: Jobs could market shit like it wasn't shit and people would buy it. Apple post-him hasn't had the same "magic" as it had under him.

Apple faltered when they ousted Jobs in the 80s...not surprising that without him they've lost direction again.  But for all the bitching and complaining that people do, tons of them still continue to purchase Apple products. 

Ditching the Apple ecosystem
:rejoice
Title: Re: Apple Basic Bitch Thread
Post by: Tasty on September 18, 2018, 11:56:51 AM
https://twitter.com/reckless/status/1041991273819910144

$1000 you say :leon
Title: Re: Apple Basic Bitch Thread
Post by: kingv on September 18, 2018, 12:18:09 PM
For as much as he was an asshole (and it's a huge notable thing) as a person: Jobs could market shit like it wasn't shit and people would buy it. Apple post-him hasn't had the same "magic" as it had under him.

Apple faltered when they ousted Jobs in the 80s...not surprising that without him they've lost direction again.  But for all the bitching and complaining that people do, tons of them still continue to purchase Apple products. 

Ditching the Apple ecosystem
:rejoice

I still have an iPhone and iPad but I recently bought a refurbished Kindle Fire tablet for like $30 and that thing is surprisingly decent as a comic reader/web browser/simple apps.

Biggest drawback is you have to side load all of the google services because the amazon App Store is not great.

I’ve had Android phones in the past, and while there are certain things I preferred with them, In my experience, “forced obsolescence” was actually worse on the ones I’ve owned.

I think both of the ones I had, eventually the carrier pushed out an update that upgraded to a new version of Android that basically made them super slow and shitty. This happens on iPhone too... but more slowly.
Title: Re: Apple Basic Bitch Thread
Post by: Assimilate on September 18, 2018, 02:02:08 PM
https://twitter.com/reckless/status/1041991273819910144

$1000 you say :leon

Again, at the end of the day the fact that my Iphone 6 is now 5 years old and with Ios12 running as good as when i bought it, there's no fucking reason to switch to an Android that starts to suck within 1.5 years.

I've decided to skip this gen again. A family member bought the Xmax and i will be grabbing that 7+ they just sold me for $350 with new battery replacement. Considering i can sell my 6 here for $190, i just spent $160 for practically a brand new 7+.

I'll upgrade next year.   :)
Title: Re: Apple Basic Bitch Thread
Post by: Assimilate on October 29, 2018, 07:07:38 PM
Tomorrow is the day we may actually see a new MacBook Air.

I'm hoping it's borderless with facial recognition. That'd be really fucking sweet.  The notch is annoying on the phone but I think with the laptops it'd be pretty nice.

Title: Re: Apple Basic Bitch Thread
Post by: Assimilate on October 30, 2018, 10:27:06 AM
New MacBook Air $1199

Same design as the last but with less bezel retina display +Touch ID, 17% less volume in size. 100% recycled aluminum. 3 colors.

I was hoping for a $999 price point. A little bit underwhelming but it is such a perfect laptop already there's not much they could do .
Title: Re: Apple Basic Bitch Thread
Post by: Assimilate on October 30, 2018, 10:35:33 AM
128gb starting storage for a $1199 computer. This fucking company, I swear.

I wish I liked Window so I could ditch this fucking company forever.
Title: Re: Apple Basic Bitch Thread
Post by: Brehvolution on October 30, 2018, 10:58:04 AM
It's funny because you couldn't backup your 128gb iphone to it.
Title: Re: Apple Basic Bitch Thread
Post by: TakingBackSunday on October 30, 2018, 11:25:48 AM
that new ipad pro is amazing looking
Title: Re: Apple Basic Bitch Thread
Post by: kingv on October 30, 2018, 12:12:08 PM
100% recycled aluminum is just “these are all the reconditioned MacBook Air shells from the last time we offered this laptop (not really, obviously)”

So the new iPad Pro has usb C. That seems like a big change. Although $800 for a freaking iPad is some dumb bullshit that will keep me from upgrading to it.

All I do on them is watch videos, read comic books, and play phone games.

I’d like a bigger screen but not for those prices.
Title: Re: Apple Basic Bitch Thread
Post by: Assimilate on October 31, 2018, 08:17:52 PM
It's funny because you couldn't backup your 128gb iphone to it.

 :snoop

I'm besides myself right now because I really wanted a new laptop.

shitty keyboard, low memory, $1199 price tag.
Title: Re: Apple Basic Bitch Thread
Post by: bork on November 01, 2018, 08:03:29 AM
It's funny because you couldn't backup your 128gb iphone to it.

 :snoop

I'm besides myself right now because I really wanted a new laptop.

shitty keyboard, low memory, $1199 price tag.

Get over Apple and buy a Windows PC or a Chromebook.  If you hate Windows so much...put Linux on it?
:idont
Title: Re: Apple Basic Bitch Thread
Post by: Assimilate on November 01, 2018, 08:22:07 AM

Get over Apple and buy a Windows PC or a Chromebook.  If you hate Windows so much...put Linux on it?
:idont

When you actually look at the options that are out there though the price for the Air isn't that unreasonable. The only thing apple does that pisses me off is the memory thing, they price gouge you on that. It's the Apple "tax" bump that is annoying.
Title: Re: Apple Basic Bitch Thread
Post by: thisismyusername on November 01, 2018, 09:04:41 AM
put Linux on it?
:idont

Shoot yourself in the head if you don't like your migraine option, nice.
Title: Re: Apple Basic Bitch Thread
Post by: Rufus on November 01, 2018, 09:55:06 AM
Unless you need a particular piece of software that isn't available for it, Linux is A-OK. :hmph
Title: Re: Apple Basic Bitch Thread
Post by: chronovore on November 01, 2018, 10:25:35 AM
put Linux on it?
:idont

Shoot yourself in the head if you don't like your migraine option, nice.
:rofl
:dead
Title: Re: Apple Basic Bitch Thread
Post by: thisismyusername on November 01, 2018, 11:51:34 AM
Unless you need a particular piece of software.

...Like 90% of games, and software?

Like, I like Linux. But 1) the UI is atrocious 2) the driver support is poor (but getting better, granted) and 3) it's built for servers, not desktop (see #1-2).


You can use it for Retropi just fine, but anything else? It's Windows or bust. But I don't know if Assy is HUEHUEHUE enough to run a bunch of Free to Plays through SteamPlay/WINE on Linux.
Title: Re: Apple Basic Bitch Thread
Post by: Rufus on November 01, 2018, 12:19:41 PM
Games are a clincher, at least if you don't want to tinker at all, but if you don't play games, it's just fine for everyday use. No fiddling and the UI of most major distros is fine. :yeshrug
Title: Re: Apple Basic Bitch Thread
Post by: Assimilate on November 01, 2018, 12:21:59 PM
Unless you need a particular piece of software.

...Like 90% of games, and software?

Like, I like Linux. But 1) the UI is atrocious 2) the driver support is poor (but getting better, granted) and 3) it's built for servers, not desktop (see #1-2).


You can use it for Retropi just fine, but anything else? It's Windows or bust. But I don't know if Assy is HUEHUEHUE enough to run a bunch of Free to Plays through SteamPlay/WINE on Linux.
I don't care about games at all on the computer. I was always console even when I did play games which I haven't in over a year.

Windows is so obnoxious to use though. My MacBook Air has been ace since I bought it in 2014. I really just want more strength and a better screen which this new one has..... what pisses me off is the memory. I need at least 256 but fuck me if I'm going to pay that much extra.

And since the Mac is the only machine that can actually switch between MacOS, Linux, and windows all on the same machine.... it's hard for me to not get one so I don't even know why I'm bitching

EDIT: well I know why the machine isn't the perfect one I wanted. I don't want this new fucking keyboard, I want more memory and slight more power but going with the MacBook Pro with that stupid touch crap is also fucking dumb. Sigh, do I wait for the new pros or do I punk down and go with the air?
Title: Re: Apple Basic Bitch Thread
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on November 01, 2018, 12:26:10 PM
You can also have mac os on a pc
Title: Re: Apple Basic Bitch Thread
Post by: Assimilate on November 01, 2018, 12:31:39 PM
You can also have mac os on a pc
I've had friends do that, way too much trouble.
Title: Re: Apple Basic Bitch Thread
Post by: bork on November 01, 2018, 01:28:50 PM

Get over Apple and buy a Windows PC or a Chromebook.  If you hate Windows so much...put Linux on it?
:idont

When you actually look at the options that are out there though the price for the Air isn't that unreasonable. The only thing apple does that pisses me off is the memory thing, they price gouge you on that. It's the Apple "tax" bump that is annoying.

$1000 starting for this shit? 

Quote
1.6GHz dual-core Intel Core i5, Turbo Boost up to 3.6GHz, with 4MB L3 cache
128GB PCIe-based SSD
8GB of 2133MHz LPDDR3 onboard memory

At least they have a whopping TWO USB ports this time around. 

I don't care about games at all on the computer. I was always console even when I did play games which I haven't in over a year.

Windows is so obnoxious to use though.

I mean...not really?  It works pretty well for me.  I've had both Macs and PCs over the years and found that I just slowly gravitated more and more towards Windows stuff after dual OS booting became a thing. Found it super-annoying when something was missing on OSX that was easily available on Windows.  Only got into PC gaming when it got more console-like in a lot of ways thanks to Steam and the like becoming the norm.

What is that you do with your computer?  If I wasn't into gaming I'd buy something much cheaper.  Besides games, I don't do much more than browsing and streaming.  Did just fine with netbooks a decade or so ago when I wasn't into PC gaming.
:idont

You can also have mac os on a pc
I've had friends do that, way too much trouble.

Yeah, don't think I'd want to mess with that.
Title: Re: Apple Basic Bitch Thread
Post by: thisismyusername on November 01, 2018, 01:30:25 PM
You can also have mac os on a pc

Hackintoshes are work, though.
Title: Re: Apple Basic Bitch Thread
Post by: thisismyusername on November 01, 2018, 01:33:54 PM
New screen I can understand. But why "more strength" if you're current use case is doing you just fine?
Title: Re: Apple Basic Bitch Thread
Post by: Assimilate on November 01, 2018, 01:36:11 PM
New screen I can understand. But why "more strength" if you're current use case is doing you just fine?
It's not, it's showing its age.

If I can sell it in this country for a good price I will make the jump. Going to see what I can get for it.
Title: Re: Apple Basic Bitch Thread
Post by: bork on November 01, 2018, 01:53:38 PM
New screen I can understand. But why "more strength" if you're current use case is doing you just fine?
It's not, it's showing its age.

If I can sell it in this country for a good price I will make the jump. Going to see what I can get for it.

Apple is showing a trade-in program for up to $1000 off the new Air, at least in 'Murica.
Title: Re: Apple Basic Bitch Thread
Post by: Assimilate on November 01, 2018, 05:08:15 PM
New screen I can understand. But why "more strength" if you're current use case is doing you just fine?
It's not, it's showing its age.

If I can sell it in this country for a good price I will make the jump. Going to see what I can get for it.

Apple is showing a trade-in program for up to $1000 off the new Air, at least in 'Murica.
They're saying my current air which is close to what they are selling new for $899 is worth $265 as a trade in  :lol


I may be able to get around $700 for it here.
Title: Re: Apple Basic Bitch Thread
Post by: bork on November 01, 2018, 09:23:42 PM
If it's not a big upgrade (sure doesn't look like it from those specs), why bother? 
Title: Re: Apple Basic Bitch Thread
Post by: Assimilate on November 01, 2018, 09:27:01 PM
If it's not a big upgrade (sure doesn't look like it from those specs), why bother?
well, because if I can still get a decent price for it now I might as well because waiting any longer and then I won't be able to.
Title: Re: Apple Basic Bitch Thread
Post by: bork on November 07, 2018, 12:27:54 PM
I love this dude's videos.  Here's a news story where they brought in MacBook with a broken screen for repair, cited water damage, and were told it would cost $1200 to change out the parts and that they could just buy another Mac for that price.  Louis opened it up, bent a single pin back into place, and then it worked perfectly.  Said he wouldn't charge anything to do that either.  :doge

Also has a segment where an iFixit guy explains how Apple is trying to control everything and even went as far as to invent their own screws to stop people from opening stuff up, now glues batteries into iPhones, and made it so that if iOS detects that a replacement home button was put into an iPhone, it will stop working. Scummy shit.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o2_SZ4tfLns
"[Apple] declined to provide a spokesman, but issued a statement claiming their customers are best served by Apple's certified experts using genuine parts.  They denied systemically overestimating repair costs."  :lol ::)
 :cmonson

"How often do people show up here with the Apple Store telling them it can't be fixed or it's too expensive to fix?  Somewhere between 10 and 30 times a day."
:dead
Title: Re: Apple Basic Bitch Thread
Post by: chronovore on November 08, 2018, 12:40:08 AM
Yeah, my next machine's gonna be a Windows 10 PC, and it's not far in the future. I'll regret having to use iTunes on Windows for my overcommitment to their media ecosphere, but I'll just cry while quietly finally working through my Steam backlog.
Title: Re: Apple Basic Bitch Thread
Post by: kingv on November 09, 2018, 10:52:02 AM
I upgrade to an XR.

It’s a pretty nice phone, and the screen seems huge after coming from a regular ass 7. No way could I ever use this shit one handed though.

I almost sprung for an XS but it’s just so damn expensive. My wife, of course wants a 256GB XS Max so I’m trying to figure out how much I could get for one of the kids.

Also, fuck apple.
Title: Re: Apple Basic Bitch Thread
Post by: EightBitNate on November 09, 2018, 11:14:24 AM
I have it on good authority that the 9.7” iPad will hit $229 this Black Friday.
Title: Re: Apple Basic Bitch Thread
Post by: kingv on November 09, 2018, 12:16:20 PM
Damn. I’ll buy one at that price.

I have an iPad Air 2 that my crumbsnstchers have commandeered as a YouTube machine

The air 2 is surprisingly still well usable for an apple device considering it’s age. They seem to be getting a little better about the forced obsolescence.
Title: Re: Apple Basic Bitch Thread
Post by: bork on November 09, 2018, 12:44:24 PM
fuck apple.

...

I upgrade to an XR.

 My wife, of course wants a 256GB XS Max so I’m trying to figure out how much I could get for one of the kids.
Damn. I’ll buy one at that price.
:mindblown
Title: Re: Apple Basic Bitch Thread
Post by: Tasty on November 09, 2018, 12:54:03 PM
Apple fans in a nutshell lol.
Title: Re: Apple Basic Bitch Thread
Post by: kingv on November 09, 2018, 02:09:36 PM
Apple sucks.... you guys want to check out my new iPhone?
Title: Re: Apple Basic Bitch Thread
Post by: Rahxephon91 on February 13, 2019, 12:28:51 AM
Question. I have my refund coming soon and I'm interested in getting a Macbook. But I'm not going to go high end.

So it seems my choice is between the new Air or the Macbook Pro 2018 without the touchbar.

It will mostly be used as a school labtop. I'm not worried about video games or anything. I just want something reliable, fast enough for word internet use, and so on, not too bulky, to use a version of itunes that is'nt shit, and in general have something the works with my Apple Tv, iphone, and ipad.

It kind of seems like the Air is the winner, but I am prone to opening a lot of tabs and shit. I've had cheap HP labtops and I get annoyed how slow even a internet browser can run.

So I guess I'm looking for a recommendation.
Title: Re: Apple Basic Bitch Thread
Post by: bork on February 13, 2019, 08:19:16 AM
Question. I have my refund coming soon and I'm interested in getting a Macbook. But I'm not going to go high end.

So it seems my choice is between the new Air or the Macbook Pro 2018 without the touchbar.

It will mostly be used as a school labtop. I'm not worried about video games or anything. I just want something reliable, fast enough for word internet use, and so on, not too bulky, to use a version of itunes that is'nt shit, and in general have something the works with my Apple Tv, iphone, and ipad.

It kind of seems like the Air is the winner, but I am prone to opening a lot of tabs and shit. I've had cheap HP labtops and I get annoyed how slow even a internet browser can run.

So I guess I'm looking for a recommendation.

Recommended laptops (Macs and PCs) - https://thewirecutter.com/reviews/best-laptops/
More recommendations broken down by use - https://thewirecutter.com/electronics/laptops/

They think the MacBook Air 2018 is the best MacBook at the moment. 

If you don't need to do anything special, why not save some money and get a Windows laptop instead?
Title: Re: Apple Basic Bitch Thread
Post by: Quaker on February 13, 2019, 09:28:32 AM
Research the keyboard on whatever model you end up with. Ever since they redesigned the keyboards a few years back they have been prone to failure due to dust getting underneath the switches. They redesigned them again last year but I think that was a bandaid. I might be wrong, though.
Question. I have my refund coming soon and I'm interested in getting a Macbook. But I'm not going to go high end.

So it seems my choice is between the new Air or the Macbook Pro 2018 without the touchbar.

It will mostly be used as a school labtop. I'm not worried about video games or anything. I just want something reliable, fast enough for word internet use, and so on, not too bulky, to use a version of itunes that is'nt shit, and in general have something the works with my Apple Tv, iphone, and ipad.

It kind of seems like the Air is the winner, but I am prone to opening a lot of tabs and shit. I've had cheap HP labtops and I get annoyed how slow even a internet browser can run.

So I guess I'm looking for a recommendation.
Title: Re: Apple Basic Bitch Thread
Post by: bork on February 13, 2019, 10:40:50 AM
If I were going to go for a small ultra-book style laptop, I'd check out the Surface Go (the 8GB RAM/SSD models, not the 4GB RAM base models).  The better configuration is around $650 with a type cover, IIRC.  Supposed to be great for the price.
Title: Re: Apple Basic Bitch Thread
Post by: thisismyusername on February 13, 2019, 11:31:28 AM
Doesn't the Surface Go suck in terms of speed/multi-tasking?
Title: Re: Apple Basic Bitch Thread
Post by: Rufus on February 13, 2019, 11:32:50 AM
He's pretty clear about wanting to be in Apple's ecosystem, so that's kind of moot.
Title: Re: Apple Basic Bitch Thread
Post by: hampster on February 13, 2019, 12:01:25 PM
I also used my refund on Apple stuff - Bought an iphone se to replace my 6+ I got in 2015. The se is very cheap these days and I'm in the mood for a small phone. My pocket is going to feel so nice :)

My first gen ipad air is even older but still going okay. Seems to studder when ever I type too fast but otherwise still works. Considering a new ipad, or maybe a surface, in the near future.
Title: Re: Apple Basic Bitch Thread
Post by: nachobro on February 13, 2019, 12:30:21 PM
I have a 6 year old Air and it still performs pretty well. I mainly use it for web or remote desktop stuff, but it'll run WoW on low settings. Can't speak to the keyboards on the new ones but the performance on the Airs is pretty good for what they are imo.
Title: Re: Apple Basic Bitch Thread
Post by: bork on February 13, 2019, 10:33:34 PM
Doesn't the Surface Go suck in terms of speed/multi-tasking?

That's what I heard, too, but I started seeing stuff pop up about it recently and was seeing a lot of praise for the 8GB ram models. 

I'd probably buy one to mess around with if I didn't have my little GPD Win 2 (which I think runs way better than the Go does anyway).  I ignored the Go when it came out and only recently saw one on display at Costco.  If they had released this type of Surface earlier on, I definitely would have gone for it over the Surface Pro 4 I used to have.  That was great as a laptop, but awful as a tablet (too heavy, had semi-noisy fans, and had shitty battery life).  This model is apparently pretty good both ways for its class.
Title: Re: Apple Basic Bitch Thread
Post by: Rahxephon91 on February 13, 2019, 11:51:45 PM
I ended up going with the Macbook Pro 13inch 2017.

All my friends have Pros and spoke pretty highly of them. So I said why not.
Title: Re: Apple Basic Bitch Thread
Post by: hampster on February 16, 2019, 01:21:12 PM
I also used my refund on Apple stuff - Bought an iphone se to replace my 6+ I got in 2015. The se is very cheap these days and I'm in the mood for a small phone. My pocket is going to feel so nice :)

When I bought it, the only color in stock was gold. I thought it was that cool pink gold apple sells. Apparently apple sells actual gold colored phones. Its ugly :yuck

I'm an idiot :lol
Title: Re: Apple Basic Bitch Thread
Post by: kingv on August 06, 2019, 02:32:28 PM
Macs fucking suck.

I’m visiting my dad trying to use his stupid iMac to vpn into my work pc and get some shit done.

I’ve spent 2 hours just trying to get it working correctly. It boots slow as fuck, installing updates is slow as fuck, it failed on the updates at least once.

My mom has an iMac too. And it’s exactly the same piece of shit when I use it.

I haven’t seen a PC in the wild this fucked up since Windows XP, to be honest.

Title: Re: Apple Basic Bitch Thread
Post by: EightBitNate on August 06, 2019, 03:00:15 PM
Macs fucking suck.

I’m visiting my dad trying to use his stupid iMac to vpn into my work pc and get some shit done.

I’ve spent 2 hours just trying to get it working correctly. It boots slow as fuck, installing updates is slow as fuck, it failed on the updates at least once.

My mom has an iMac too. And it’s exactly the same piece of shit when I use it.

I haven’t seen a PC in the wild this fucked up since Windows XP, to be honest.

Your problem is that you’re trying to use a Mac for nerd stuff. Don’t do that.
Title: Re: Apple Basic Bitch Thread
Post by: bork on August 27, 2019, 01:58:48 PM
Got a new iPhone (for work)- upgraded from an iPhone 5SE to an iPhone 7, because I'm not paying any money for this garbage so I get whatever is considered the lowest tier of phone available.  Fine with me.

What a fucking pain in the ass it was getting the phone set up.  It seemed promising enough initially, with it telling me to just put the old phone next to it and it would move stuff over.  Then it wanted me to take a photo of an image on the old phone screen.  And wouldn't register.  After like 10 tries it worked.  Then it prompted me to enter my iCloud password.  Entered the correct one but it wouldn't take it the first five times.  Then it prompted me to enter iTunes info and the same shit happened.  Not incorrect...but keeps asking me for it and/or sitting there doing nothing.  Finally after like three restarts and 20 times entering the same shit in, it finally saves it and starts working.

Made sure it was set up, then turned that crap off immediately and tossed it into my bag.  Don't ever use this shit unless I need it, which is usually when doing on-call like six times max out of the year. 

When I got my Pixel and moved stuff over it?  It did like 99% of everything for me, working perfectly the first time, like it should.  My wife, too- and she was coming from an iPhone.  :doge

(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/WyAAAOSwiCRUbtHc/s-l300.jpg)
Title: Re: Apple Basic Bitch Thread
Post by: Tasty on August 27, 2019, 02:30:50 PM
Eh, Google wants people to switch from iPhones (even including an iPhone transfer cable in recent Pixels...) Apple doesn't really care. So that's not surprising the migration process is underdeveloped.
Title: Re: Apple Basic Bitch Thread
Post by: chronovore on November 03, 2020, 10:00:02 PM
https://www.theverge.com/21540028/apple-iphone-ios-14-back-tap-hidden-secret-button-gesture?amp;

This is pretty neat. I set mine up to do both App Switcher and take a screenshot.
Title: Re: Apple Basic Bitch Thread
Post by: nudemacusers on November 03, 2020, 10:01:38 PM
just ordered a iphone 12 pro and am waiting for a new appletv on friday :heart
Title: Re: Apple Basic Bitch Thread
Post by: G The Resurrected on November 03, 2020, 10:13:11 PM
Why didn’t you wait for the new Apple TV?
Title: Re: Apple Basic Bitch Thread
Post by: nudemacusers on November 03, 2020, 10:52:28 PM
for clarity i'm waiting for an appletv announcement on friday (one can hope/dream). I skipped the 4k assuming they'd drop one last year but they fucked up.  >:(
Title: Re: Apple Basic Bitch Thread
Post by: G The Resurrected on November 03, 2020, 11:04:12 PM
They should be revealed at the ARM event on the 10th
Title: Re: Apple Basic Bitch Thread
Post by: kingv on November 04, 2020, 02:01:59 AM
I bought AirPod Pros.... then I returned them!

They don’t sound good on phone calls. Hopefully my Bose quiet comfort 35 II’s will be better.
Title: Re: Apple Basic Bitch Thread
Post by: archnemesis on November 04, 2020, 06:56:08 AM
I'm very happy with that Bose model, although I never use them for phone calls.
Title: Re: Apple Basic Bitch Thread
Post by: kingv on November 04, 2020, 08:27:21 AM
I'm very happy with that Bose model, although I never use them for phone calls.

I spend a ton of time on the phone for work.

Right now I use the Bose sound sport free for calls. They are ok, but get a bit uncomfortable. They are very good and secure for working out though.

The airpod pros I really liked the noise cancelling, but I could get a good fit on my left ear and it always felt like it was going to fall out. I think the poor fit is also what caused the poor sound quality on calls. Like some sort of feedback from the ear canal to the mics used for noise cancelling.

The QC 35 II’s were on sale for $199, seemed like a good deal when they normally are $300+
Title: Re: Apple Basic Bitch Thread
Post by: nudemacusers on November 06, 2020, 10:43:53 PM
They should be revealed at the ARM event on the 10th
oh duh, for some reason i thought those were dropping today... i did get a leather case for my 12 pro, so all is not lost.  :doge

i thought the sleeve looked kinda cool but $130 is nearing actual artisan maker-tier and i'd rather put my money there tbh. but maybe it looks nicer in person.

btw everyone is sleeping on the silver color and giving too much love to pacific blue.
Title: Re: Apple Basic Bitch Thread
Post by: nudemacusers on November 14, 2020, 06:57:27 AM
gotta say i've been enjoying the meltdowns over the M1's performance #s. 😂
Title: Re: Apple Basic Bitch Thread
Post by: TakingBackSunday on November 14, 2020, 11:02:12 AM
gotta say i've been enjoying the meltdowns over the M1's performance #s. 😂

I haven’t really been following the M1 stuff - what meltdowns?
Title: Re: Apple Basic Bitch Thread
Post by: nudemacusers on November 14, 2020, 11:07:06 AM
https://www.pcworld.com/article/3596814/no-the-new-macbook-air-is-not-faster-than-98-of-pc-laptops.html

and all around reddit (pcmasterrace, hardware, technology, etc).

:trumps
Title: Re: Apple Basic Bitch Thread
Post by: TakingBackSunday on November 14, 2020, 11:41:58 AM
lol wow the butthurt
Title: Re: Apple Basic Bitch Thread
Post by: Tasty on November 14, 2020, 12:26:08 PM
This happened before when Apple started ramping up their A* chips in the iPhone line and blew past basically everyone else. In terms of raw performance, top-end Android phones are still consistently 2-3 years behind the top-end iPhones.

Not sure if people forgot or if they were expecting things to go differently this time for whatever reason. Apple doesn't make big changes on a whim, if they're transitioning to new hardware you can probably bet it's damn solid (for their purposes.)
Title: Re: Apple Basic Bitch Thread
Post by: nudemacusers on November 14, 2020, 02:24:24 PM
i wonder how john c dvorak is handling this news...

edit: actually checked his twitter and tbh i'm not surprised at the genre pivot  :rofl
Title: Re: Apple Basic Bitch Thread
Post by: Tasty on November 14, 2020, 02:43:37 PM
i wonder how john c dvorak is handling this news...

edit: actually checked his twitter and tbh i'm not surprised at the genre pivot  :rofl

Speaking of the elder technorati, I'm gonna pour a drink and celebrate when Jon Guber John Gruber finally stops blogging. He's not as annoying as MG Siegler but his self-important style of writing consistently rankles me, just when I think "Oh maybe he's mellowed out and reasonable now."
Title: Re: Apple Basic Bitch Thread
Post by: Rufus on November 14, 2020, 04:01:33 PM
(https://images.anandtech.com/doci/16226/perf-trajectory.png)
https://www.anandtech.com/show/16226/apple-silicon-m1-a14-deep-dive/4

Apple leapt, Intel wept.  :rimshot
Title: Re: Apple Basic Bitch Thread
Post by: Tasty on November 14, 2020, 04:05:16 PM
Intel got too confident and now it's biting them in the ass

Meltdown/Spectre musta really fucked their plans up :trumps

Speculative execution was always kinda cheating anyways.
Title: Re: Apple Basic Bitch Thread
Post by: Rufus on November 14, 2020, 04:06:47 PM
They couldn't get their 10nm process off the ground. They've been stuck on 14nm (+++) for a couple iterations now.
Title: Re: Apple Basic Bitch Thread
Post by: Tasty on November 14, 2020, 09:37:44 PM
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25095438

Apple, you're fucking up.
Title: Re: Apple Basic Bitch Thread
Post by: chronovore on November 15, 2020, 10:36:11 PM
lol wow the butthurt
In fairness, someone at Apple needed to put a link directly to the formulation of that statement. There's bad faith arguing on the part of Apple's detractors, but this kind of claim is automatically incendiary.
Title: Re: Apple Basic Bitch Thread
Post by: T-Short on November 16, 2020, 09:31:45 AM
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25095438

Apple, you're fucking up.

Being addressed. Bottom paragraph on this article updated: https://support.apple.com/en-gb/HT202491 (https://support.apple.com/en-gb/HT202491)
Title: Re: Apple Basic Bitch Thread
Post by: Tasty on November 16, 2020, 09:33:33 AM
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25095438

Apple, you're fucking up.

Being addressed. Bottom paragraph on this article updated: https://support.apple.com/en-gb/HT202491 (https://support.apple.com/en-gb/HT202491)

Which part? The overly-restrictive software installation policies of macOS aren't the issue (this time), it's the need to phone home (with the privacy-invasive logging that implies, along with sending the app developer's ID over plaintext so snoopers can see what app you open every time you open it) and hanging apps on opening if Apple is down or the connection is bad.

It's a bad idea implemented even worse.

Edit-

Quote
In addition, over the the next year we will introduce several changes to our security checks:

A new encrypted protocol for Developer ID certificate revocation checks
Strong protections against server failure
A new preference for users to opt out of these security protections

I mean, good, but this is table stakes. Launching without these should have gotten someone (or multiple people) fired.

Quote
We have never combined data from these checks with information about Apple users or their devices. We do not use data from these checks to learn what individual users are launching or running on their devices.

Pinky promise!

The NSA, on the other hand...
Title: Re: Apple Basic Bitch Thread
Post by: T-Short on November 16, 2020, 09:38:25 AM
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25095438

Apple, you're fucking up.

Being addressed. Bottom paragraph on this article updated: https://support.apple.com/en-gb/HT202491 (https://support.apple.com/en-gb/HT202491)

Which part? The overly-restrictive software installation policies of macOS aren't the issue (this time), it's the need to phone home (with the privacy-invasive logging that implies, along with sending the app developer's ID over plaintext so snoopers can see what app you open every time you open it) and hanging apps on opening if Apple is down or the connection is bad.

It's a bad idea implemented even worse.

Quote
In addition, over the the next year we will introduce several changes to our security checks:

* A new encrypted protocol for Developer ID certificate revocation checks
* Strong protections against server failure
* A new preference for users to opt out of these security protections

Also, the dev ID doesn't show which app you open, just who developed the app.
Title: Re: Apple Basic Bitch Thread
Post by: Tasty on November 16, 2020, 09:39:01 AM
Responded above.
Title: Re: Apple Basic Bitch Thread
Post by: Tasty on November 16, 2020, 09:39:33 AM
Also, love the timeline on these improvements.

November 2021. Yay.
Title: Re: Apple Basic Bitch Thread
Post by: Tasty on November 16, 2020, 09:40:39 AM
Quote
Also, the dev ID doesn't show which app you open, just who developed the app.

That's still problematic for a vast swath of apps, which are the only app by their developer. It's not defensible because it's less bad.
Title: Re: Apple Basic Bitch Thread
Post by: T-Short on November 16, 2020, 10:06:23 AM
Quote
Also, the dev ID doesn't show which app you open, just who developed the app.

That's still problematic for a vast swath of apps, which are the only app by their developer. It's not defensible because it's less bad.

Sure. I just wanted to make sure the semantics were correct. Hehe
Title: Re: Apple Basic Bitch Thread
Post by: Tasty on November 16, 2020, 10:12:08 AM
I don't understand the use of HTTP... the excuse that dev uses is "well it's a cert verification service, so how can it use HTTPS?" like it's some philosoraptor conundrum.. no it's not lol

You already have keychain or whatever storing your trusted root level certs... why in the world wouldn't you just hit OCSP with HTTPS and rely on the existing security architecture there?  The fuck?


Yeah that part has people scratching their head. It was probably just easier/faster to do over HTTP.

Like a lot of parts of the capitalist machine, Apple's claims of focusing on privacy are more marketing-driven than development-driven.
Title: Re: Apple Basic Bitch Thread
Post by: chronovore on March 30, 2022, 09:59:04 PM
https://80.lv/articles/apple-would-be-forced-to-allow-alternative-app-stores-and-sideloading/

Not sure if this is better here, or in the Apple vs. EPIC thread.

Not only will separate stores be forced by the EU, but it looks like mandatory support for an Apple payment method must also be removed? That seems wild.
Title: Re: Apple Basic Bitch Thread
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on March 31, 2022, 01:25:11 PM
europeans use iphones?
Title: Re: Apple Basic Bitch Thread
Post by: bork on April 03, 2022, 04:52:48 PM
I bought an Apple product.
:stahp

iPad Mini.  First Apple product purchase in six+ years.  Wanted a smaller tablet and this is the only good one.  Glad there are browsers like Brave, with full Adblock built-in, or this would be going right back.
Title: Re: Apple Basic Bitch Thread
Post by: bork on June 17, 2022, 09:25:26 PM
I'm selling that Apple product.  :doge

Did not like iOS and found myself just using my Android phone more instead.  Got a Surface Go 3 to replace it.
Title: Re: Apple Basic Bitch Thread
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on June 18, 2022, 09:09:29 AM
I pad mini is the worst
Title: Re: Apple Basic Bitch Thread
Post by: bork on June 19, 2022, 12:19:11 PM
I pad mini is the worst

Jelly scrolling  :yuck
Title: Re: Apple Basic Bitch Thread
Post by: bork on June 19, 2022, 12:21:04 PM
Returning the Go 3 now, but only because Amazon and Best Buy are dumping Surface Pro 7+ i5/8gb ram models for $699 with the type cover included this weekend.  Somehow came out to be $30 cheaper than the Go 3 with type cover.
Title: Re: Apple Basic Bitch Thread
Post by: Potato on June 19, 2022, 03:03:48 PM
Weren't you trying to buy a smaller tablet though?
Title: Re: Apple Basic Bitch Thread
Post by: bork on June 19, 2022, 03:54:40 PM
Weren't you trying to buy a smaller tablet though?

Yes- and also I didn't want to spend this much when I all wanted a tablet for was for streaming video and using the web-  Just wanted to have extensions and adblock for the latter.  On the drive to return the Go 3, I thought about how fucking stupid this all was and canceled the Best Buy order.  Then I went home and checked to see if my firm's Lenovo discounts applied to the new 10" Chromebook Duet 3- and it did, so ordered that instead and got it for $300 after shipping and tax.  Much better.

I'm glad I tried the Go 3 out though.  It was a hassle-free full return so no big deal. 
Title: Re: Apple Basic Bitch Thread
Post by: Potato on June 19, 2022, 11:39:34 PM
I'm interested to hear how that performs. Not really in the market for a tablet, but could be tempted by the right price/performance.
Title: Re: Apple Basic Bitch Thread
Post by: bork on June 21, 2022, 12:02:52 PM
I'm interested to hear how that performs. Not really in the market for a tablet, but could be tempted by the right price/performance.

Just got it- coming from the 2020 model, there's noticeable improvements.  The screen is a bit bigger and higher resolution (2K now versus 1080P), the bezels are a bit thinner, and there's now two USB-C ports on the left and right sides for charging and peripherals instead of just one.  The back cover (has a kickstand) and keyboard cover are also improved and feel like they're made of better, sturdier material.  The keyboard is more solid and better for typing on, although it's also heavier.  With both covers on, it's laptop-heavy, but they pop right off so no big deal- the magnets are also much better and stay on pretty well.  The older model's keyboard cover flopped open all the time.  But as soon as a smart folio cover is available for sale, I'll definitely pick one up, since I tend to only use the keyboard cover if I travel.  The back cover also has an opening that's for a stylus holder.  I saw some early reviews complaining that they didn't get one, but it was in the box, so dunno.  Apparently this uses some new standard for styluses and older ones don't work?  Dunno because I don't use them, but if one is for sale cheap enough, I'll probably give it a try.

I don't generally use an external display with tablets, but the first gen model had problems with anything over 1080P and would often run at 30hz.  This new version supposedly fixes this and works just fine up to 1440P at least- will definitely test this out.  Curious how it works on a 4K TV.  If I can get even 1080P/60hz, I'd be be fine with it since that would mean it could be used to play back streaming video on trips.

The setups on these things are so incredibly fast that it was ready to go in a couple of minutes- tried going to Youtube and the playback speed/switching to full-screen was faster, plus sites that had performance issues on the old model like Discord now run normally, so I'm pretty happy.  Definitely runs better with the newer Snapdragon processor upgrade from the older MediaTek one.  Battery life is supposed to have taken a hit from the original, but it's like 10+ hours instead of 12, so not a big deal.

This model only has 4GB of RAM and 64GB of storage space- there is an 8GB RAM model coming out in Europe, possibly with 128GB of space, but they haven't said anything about the States.  The previous model was also 4GB and I never really had a problem with it up until things got slow with the Chrome OS v100 update.  If people say that 8GB makes a huge difference, I might just give this model to my wife and buy another one (if they come out here), but for my uses, it probably won't matter much.  The storage space also doesn't bother me since I don't save anything locally- this is pretty much just used as a portable (desktop) Chrome Browser, with a couple of apps for streaming, and for that purpose, it's awesome. 
Title: Re: Apple Basic Bitch Thread
Post by: james on September 07, 2022, 10:14:24 AM
Lets see what outdated garbage they release today for the sheeple

 :crowdlaff
Title: Re: Apple Basic Bitch Thread
Post by: james on September 07, 2022, 01:22:56 PM
A watch? Are they going after the silent generation market? Considering the main feature is that it detects when seniors crash into trees I guess so

 :heyman

Title: Re: Apple Basic Bitch Thread
Post by: james on September 07, 2022, 01:31:25 PM
STFU about watches holy shit
Title: Re: Apple Basic Bitch Thread
Post by: james on September 07, 2022, 02:17:10 PM
No SIM cards its Sprint all over again

 :tauntaun :tauntaun :tauntaun
Title: Re: Apple Basic Bitch Thread
Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on September 07, 2022, 02:34:44 PM
Well I’m grabbing the Apple Watch ultra, been waiting for a good replacement for my Apple Watch 4.

I have the beats pro so no need to get the new AirPods.

And my 13 pro is still great so will not be updating till they get ride of the notch and finally add usb c out.
Title: Re: Apple Basic Bitch Thread
Post by: james on September 07, 2022, 02:43:40 PM
Should have called it the iPhone 13 U

Well I’m grabbing the Apple Watch ultra, been waiting for a good replacement for my Apple Watch 4.

Its called Garmin you fool
Title: Re: Apple Basic Bitch Thread
Post by: Potato on September 07, 2022, 05:03:03 PM
Well I’m grabbing the Apple Watch ultra, been waiting for a good replacement for my Apple Watch 4.

I have the beats pro so no need to get the new AirPods.

And my 13 pro is still great so will not be updating till they get ride of the notch and finally add usb c out.
Do you need an intervention dude? Just say no to drugs Apple.
Title: Re: Apple Basic Bitch Thread
Post by: bork on September 08, 2022, 10:30:54 AM
"Apple Watch ULTRA!"

 :crowdlaff :girlaff

Can already picture someone making My Hero Academia memes with this.  :doge

Getting bothered by requests to upgrade to the iPhone 14 at work.  FFS, they just announced it- we don't have pricing yet and these are people who were foaming at the mouth to get 13s last year so they're not eligible to upgrade anyway- FUCKING STOP.
:kinison

And my 13 pro is still great so will not be updating till they get ride of the notch and finally add usb c out.

Rumors are USB-C is happening with the 15.
Title: Re: Apple Basic Bitch Thread
Post by: james on September 08, 2022, 12:31:58 PM
https://twitter.com/TheTechInfinity/status/1567777409029779456
Title: Re: Apple Basic Bitch Thread
Post by: bork on September 08, 2022, 03:52:48 PM
I got a new iPhone (for work)- didn't want to spend any money so the best free option was an iPhone SE 2020 3rd gen model.  Was previously using an iPhone 7- this shit looks exactly the same except for the glossy back.
:dead

Taking forever to set up and transfer data, too, despite there barely being anything on the phone to begin with. :dizzy
Title: Re: Apple Basic Bitch Thread
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on September 08, 2022, 04:05:31 PM
my girl  was like "i'm getting you an iphone "

lol just kidding
Title: Re: Apple Basic Bitch Thread
Post by: nudemacusers on September 09, 2022, 08:12:20 AM
we all know you don't have a girlfriend  :biden


apple watch ultra looks kinda cool but I have a stainless 6 and am in no hurry to upgrade.
Title: Re: Apple Basic Bitch Thread
Post by: Fifstar on September 10, 2022, 03:42:27 AM
I got a new iPhone (for work)- didn't want to spend any money so the best free option was an iPhone SE 2020 3rd gen model.  Was previously using an iPhone 7- this shit looks exactly the same except for the glossy back.
:dead

Taking forever to set up and transfer data, too, despite there barely being anything on the phone to begin with. :dizzy

Well that's the point of the se series. My wife has that phone and I sometimes envy her because it's such a nice compact phone compared to my pixel 6. iOS though  :yuck
Title: Re: Apple Basic Bitch Thread
Post by: Tasty on September 10, 2022, 11:42:13 AM
Google abandoning the Small Pixel/XL Pixel model still seriously annoys me. The a series has gotten big now too.
Title: Re: Apple Basic Bitch Thread
Post by: chronovore on September 12, 2022, 01:01:55 AM
http://twitter.com/hi1ar10us/status/1569028195881459712
Title: Re: Apple Basic Bitch Thread
Post by: james on September 12, 2022, 02:19:10 PM
 :drudge :drudge :drudge

Apple in shambles

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The iPhone 14 and ‌iPhone 14‌ Plus have seen "bad" pre-order results, indicating that Apple's positioning of the two new standard models may have failed, according to Apple analyst Ming-Chi Kuo.

The ‌iPhone 14‌ and ‌iPhone 14‌ Plus are expected to be in stock in retail stores on their launch dates, "reflecting lackluster demand." As it stands, Kuo says that the pre-order results for the ‌iPhone 14‌ and ‌iPhone 14‌ Plus are worse than those of the third-generation iPhone SE and the iPhone 13 mini. He noted that Apple cut orders of both the third-generation ‌iPhone SE‌ and the ‌iPhone 13‌ mini in the first half of 2022 due to low demand.

https://www.macrumors.com/2022/09/12/kuo-iphone-14-plus-worse-than-iphone-13-mini/
Title: Re: Apple Basic Bitch Thread
Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on September 12, 2022, 03:31:30 PM
>
- Nobody

> Yeah let’s green light a Hillary Clinton road trip show.
- Apple

Now this image greets me every time I turn my tv on. Please make it stop Apple.

(https://th.bing.com/th/id/OIP.BhghwlgYi9go4JChk66y_wHaEK?pid=ImgDet&dpr=3)
Title: Re: Apple Basic Bitch Thread
Post by: Potato on September 12, 2022, 03:34:12 PM
Looking at her face, you really can see where the lizard people rumours come from...
Title: Re: Apple Basic Bitch Thread
Post by: bork on September 12, 2022, 09:19:42 PM
http://twitter.com/hi1ar10us/status/1569028195881459712

https://twitter.com/treadwayy45/status/1569099486043017217
Title: Re: Apple Basic Bitch Thread
Post by: Tasty on September 12, 2022, 11:14:56 PM
iPhone 69 :lol