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General => Dysfunctional Hall of Fame => The Borecast/Cruncheons => Topic started by: Eel O'Brian on October 31, 2012, 12:01:13 AM

Title: Cruncheons 35: Book Club, Surface RT, iPad Refresh, Fallen Enchantress, XCOM
Post by: Eel O'Brian on October 31, 2012, 12:01:13 AM: http://cruncheons.podbean.com/mf/web/2vjcfg/Cruncheons35Halloween.mp3 (http://cruncheons.podbean.com/mf/web/2vjcfg/Cruncheons35Halloween.mp3)

Doug returns just in time for the long-awaited Book Club edition, with talk of Horror,Sci-Fi, and Fantasy. Then it's on to the MS Surface RT, iPad Mini + 4, and general tablet talk. In Segment 2, Doug and Robert go in-depth on Fallen Enchantress and XCOM, followed by some quick hits on recent games.

SEGMENT ONE:

Book Club: Stephen Baxter, Jeremy Bishop's Torment (19:00), Scott Nicholson's The Red Church, Speed Dating with the Dead, The Skull Ring (26:15), Ian Tregillis (30:20), N. K. Jemisin's Inheritance Trilogy (33:25)

Tablet Talk (38:00): iPad Mini, iPad 4, small-form tablets, Microsoft Surface RT & Pro (57:40)

SEGMENT TWO:

Borderlands and Diablo 3 redux (1:14:20)
Fallen Enchantress (1:29:15)
XCOM: Enemy Unknown (1:53:30)
Quick Hits - Silent Hill: Book of Memories, Street Fighter x Tekken Vita, Anna, Giana Sisters: Twisted Dreams (2:17:00)

Contest: Enter to win a games bundle (courtesy of longtime listener D3RANG3D) from Indiegamestand.com - The GeneForge Saga, Gnomoria, and a Mystery Game!

We'll talk with you again soon!
Title: Re: Cruncheons 35: Book Club, Surface RT, iPad Refresh, Fallen Enchantress, XCOM
Post by: Human Snorenado on October 31, 2012, 12:10:23 AM: Haha, I actually have been told to leave dinner tables before for being "impolite company"
Title: Re: Cruncheons 35: Book Club, Surface RT, iPad Refresh, Fallen Enchantress, XCOM
Post by: Eel O'Brian on October 31, 2012, 12:25:35 AM: I don't know when this ep will show in iTunes, btw. That's a direct link in the OP. Podbean was down all day, and now I can't get it to imbed in the feed no matter how many times I edit, it just disappears from the post. I emailed their support, but they're the most uncommunicative service I have ever used (they make me long for the Borecast libsyn days), so I don't expect much. Best to grab the link.
Title: Re: Cruncheons 35: Book Club, Surface RT, iPad Refresh, Fallen Enchantress, XCOM
Post by: pilonv1 on October 31, 2012, 01:03:42 AM: Still no Wii U roadshow impressions :(
Title: Re: Cruncheons 35: Book Club, Surface RT, iPad Refresh, Fallen Enchantress, XCOM
Post by: Van Cruncheon on October 31, 2012, 02:53:44 AM: i gave those on a previous episode!
Title: Re: Cruncheons 35: Book Club, Surface RT, iPad Refresh, Fallen Enchantress, XCOM
Post by: pilonv1 on October 31, 2012, 05:05:33 AM: Which one? I must be losing my mind in my old age, can't remember it.
Title: Re: Cruncheons 35: Book Club, Surface RT, iPad Refresh, Fallen Enchantress, XCOM
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on October 31, 2012, 06:48:31 AM: Ok, I was wondering why it wasn't showing up on iTunes. I'll direct download.

Quote from: Van Cruncheon on October 31, 2012, 02:53:44 AM
i gave those on a previous episode!

Wow, you must be getting senile in your old age:

Cruncheons 34: Borderlands 2, FTL, Torchlight 2, XCOM, Guild Wars 2: http://www.thebore.com/forum/index.php?topic=39067.msg1567161#msg1567161

Quote
Doug's stuck doing homework this episode, so Book Club and the Wii U Experience are vaporware yet AGAIN*

...

*It's still coming, we swear!
Title: Re: Cruncheons 35: Book Club, Surface RT, iPad Refresh, Fallen Enchantress, XCOM
Post by: pilonv1 on October 31, 2012, 07:28:43 AM: I KNEW IT
Title: Re: Cruncheons 35: Book Club, Surface RT, iPad Refresh, Fallen Enchantress, XCOM
Post by: Eel O'Brian on October 31, 2012, 09:02:30 AM: ok, it should be up on itunes soon
Title: Re: Cruncheons 35: Book Club, Surface RT, iPad Refresh, Fallen Enchantress, XCOM
Post by: Brehvolution on October 31, 2012, 10:02:29 AM: :hyper
Title: Re: Cruncheons 35: Book Club, Surface RT, iPad Refresh, Fallen Enchantress, XCOM
Post by: Van Cruncheon on October 31, 2012, 11:17:29 AM: well! i am going senile! i'll hafta cut a wii u pre-launch hate special, then!
Title: Re: Cruncheons 35: Book Club, Surface RT, iPad Refresh, Fallen Enchantress, XCOM
Post by: MrAngryFace on October 31, 2012, 01:11:10 PM: I need to remember to cancel my wii-u preorder- I just wanted the dude out of my face so I pre-ordered
Title: Re: Cruncheons 35: Book Club, Surface RT, iPad Refresh, Fallen Enchantress, XCOM
Post by: MrAngryFace on October 31, 2012, 02:26:22 PM: http://www.circlemud.org/ -- MY touch-typing instructor. You cant look away from the screen but you have to buffer commands against the lag of your 14.4 connection ahhhhhh!
Title: Re: Cruncheons 35: Book Club, Surface RT, iPad Refresh, Fallen Enchantress, XCOM
Post by: pilonv1 on November 01, 2012, 06:12:31 AM: Enjoyed the business laptop talk. I spilled nearly a whole bottle of water over my Dell Latitude two weeks ago. Like if I tried I couldn't pour more water over it. Water coming out USB/eSata ports, if I picked it up and tilted it water would flow (not drip or dribble) out of it. Despite this sudden bathing it survived and hasn't missed a beat.
Title: Re: Cruncheons 35: Book Club, Surface RT, iPad Refresh, Fallen Enchantress, XCOM
Post by: D3RANG3D on November 01, 2012, 11:55:44 AM: I kinda want a Nexus 10...but the fact that Doug said the build quality of the 7 is crappy, yeah I know not by the same manufacturer then there is that whole incompatibility of apps on certain Android devices. :-\
Title: Re: Cruncheons 35: Book Club, Surface RT, iPad Refresh, Fallen Enchantress, XCOM
Post by: recursivelyenumerable on November 01, 2012, 01:15:38 PM: I played with the Surface briefly, it just took me a few minutes to get decent at typing (touch typing) with the touch cover. I am really good at learning new instruments / interfaces / languages / etc though, YMMV if you're not as awesome as me.
Title: Re: Cruncheons 35: Book Club, Surface RT, iPad Refresh, Fallen Enchantress, XCOM
Post by: MrAngryFace on November 01, 2012, 02:50:45 PM: touch cover is great- im not going to bother with the type cover
Title: Re: Cruncheons 35: Book Club, Surface RT, iPad Refresh, Fallen Enchantress, XCOM
Post by: Brehvolution on November 03, 2012, 12:13:01 AM: something to note about XCOM:

1.)The grey market is your best friend.

2.) If you rage quit because a soldier died. You are a pussy.
Title: Re: Cruncheons 35: Book Club, Surface RT, iPad Refresh, Fallen Enchantress, XCOM
Post by: hampster on November 03, 2012, 07:27:22 PM: Excellent episode. I really enjoyed the tablet talk. In all the tablets you guys have gone through, have any of you bought or tried a note 10.1? I don't own a tablet but if I did I think it would be that one. I can't draw worth a shit, but kind of wish I did. Might be fun learning on a tablet

Also, first post on the bore :D
Title: Re: Cruncheons 35: Book Club, Surface RT, iPad Refresh, Fallen Enchantress, XCOM
Post by: Eel O'Brian on November 03, 2012, 09:06:13 PM: Welcome!

I've never tried a Note, but I've always been intrigued by it. Samsung's tablets always seem so underpowered compared to the competition, though. It's like they don't really give a shit and are just going through the motions of releasing a tablet every now and then.
Title: Re: Cruncheons 35: Book Club, Surface RT, iPad Refresh, Fallen Enchantress, XCOM
Post by: Van Cruncheon on November 03, 2012, 09:34:01 PM: i have a tab 7.7, but i'd really like to try the note. good luck on me gettin THAT one past the wife after today's purchase :teehee
Title: Re: Cruncheons 35: Book Club, Surface RT, iPad Refresh, Fallen Enchantress, XCOM
Post by: D3RANG3D on November 04, 2012, 01:45:07 AM: Quote from: Van Cruncheon on November 03, 2012, 09:34:01 PM
i have a tab 7.7, but i'd really like to try the note. good luck on me gettin THAT one past the wife after today's purchase :teehee

What did you get a Surface or Ipad 4?
spoiler (click to show/hide)
You paid in full for a WiiU :teehee
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Title: Re: Cruncheons 35: Book Club, Surface RT, iPad Refresh, Fallen Enchantress, XCOM
Post by: Van Cruncheon on November 04, 2012, 02:49:04 AM: Worse
Title: Re: Cruncheons 35: Book Club, Surface RT, iPad Refresh, Fallen Enchantress, XCOM
Post by: MrAngryFace on November 04, 2012, 02:54:19 AM: :teehee
Title: Re: Cruncheons 35: Book Club, Surface RT, iPad Refresh, Fallen Enchantress, XCOM
Post by: Human Snorenado on November 04, 2012, 09:41:23 AM: Did you get a slave, Van Cruncheon?
Title: Re: Cruncheons 35: Book Club, Surface RT, iPad Refresh, Fallen Enchantress, XCOM
Post by: Eel O'Brian on November 04, 2012, 10:50:02 AM: Quote from: Van Cruncheon on November 04, 2012, 02:49:04 AM
Worse

is it MINI
Title: Re: Cruncheons 35: Book Club, Surface RT, iPad Refresh, Fallen Enchantress, XCOM
Post by: Van Cruncheon on November 04, 2012, 10:53:47 AM: yes :-( i finally got tired of samsung/verizon/google sucking and went back to my abusive mommy apple
Title: Re: Cruncheons 35: Book Club, Surface RT, iPad Refresh, Fallen Enchantress, XCOM
Post by: Eel O'Brian on November 04, 2012, 10:57:48 AM: watching the RDF descend over that iPad Mini GAF thread is hilarious:

Stage 1: "Man, the screen is kinda bad."

Stage 2: "After using it for a while, the screen isn't so bad."

Stage 3: "I like the screen better, actually. Even though it isn't retina, it's much more intimate and warm."

Stage 4: "This is the real iPad."

As someone not susceptible to that kind of bullshit, I ask you - is the screen as shitty as I think it probably is?
Title: Re: Cruncheons 35: Book Club, Surface RT, iPad Refresh, Fallen Enchantress, XCOM
Post by: MrAngryFace on November 04, 2012, 11:37:19 AM: IMO it benefits from the smaller dimensions- looks fine to me- its not retina but wtfever looks good.
Title: Re: Cruncheons 35: Book Club, Surface RT, iPad Refresh, Fallen Enchantress, XCOM
Post by: Van Cruncheon on November 04, 2012, 02:36:48 PM: it's shitty. the galaxy tab 7.7 screen poops all over it. heck, even the surface looks better.
Title: Re: Cruncheons 35: Book Club, Surface RT, iPad Refresh, Fallen Enchantress, XCOM
Post by: MrAngryFace on November 04, 2012, 03:06:05 PM: I dunno- it looks ok; I mean from a JOE SCHMOE standpoint
Title: Re: Cruncheons 35: Book Club, Surface RT, iPad Refresh, Fallen Enchantress, XCOM
Post by: Eel O'Brian on November 04, 2012, 05:06:24 PM: Saw it at Best Buy today. Screen not as bad as I thought, but still pretty fuzzy on tiny text. It's crazy light.
Title: Re: Cruncheons 35: Book Club, Surface RT, iPad Refresh, Fallen Enchantress, XCOM
Post by: Van Cruncheon on November 04, 2012, 05:17:16 PM: i bought it because 7-8" is the perfect size <3

i can touch it all day
Title: Re: Cruncheons 35: Book Club, Surface RT, iPad Refresh, Fallen Enchantress, XCOM
Post by: cool breeze on November 04, 2012, 05:59:29 PM: Quote from: MrAngryFace on November 04, 2012, 03:06:05 PM
I dunno- it looks ok; I mean from a JOE SCHMOE standpoint

yeah, but it's still billed as a premium product. I don't mind all the problems with my nexus 7 because it's only ("only") $200. For the more expensive Mini, I'd expect more for the money. If there's a faster retina ipad mini, I'd upgrade right away. I like iOS and I like small tablets. 7-8 inch is the perfect faffing around size. For some reason 10 inch gets me thinking it's big enough that it should replace a net/notebook for real work.
Title: Re: Cruncheons 35: Book Club, Surface RT, iPad Refresh, Fallen Enchantress, XCOM
Post by: MrAngryFace on November 04, 2012, 06:06:45 PM: i've owned the first three generations of iPad and I still dont see how its anything more than a device for consuming media
Title: Re: Cruncheons 35: Book Club, Surface RT, iPad Refresh, Fallen Enchantress, XCOM
Post by: Eel O'Brian on November 04, 2012, 06:11:23 PM: you can do productive stuff on it, you just have to needlessly go around your elbow to get to your ass every time

i can write on it using google drive/docs, but that isn't optimal
Title: Re: Cruncheons 35: Book Club, Surface RT, iPad Refresh, Fallen Enchantress, XCOM
Post by: D3RANG3D on November 05, 2012, 03:01:33 AM: I expected something truly shameful like a second Vita or something. :lol
Title: Re: Cruncheons 35: Book Club, Surface RT, iPad Refresh, Fallen Enchantress, XCOM
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on November 05, 2012, 06:59:24 AM: Quote from: MrAngryFace on November 04, 2012, 06:06:45 PM
i've owned the first three generations of iPad and I still dont see how its anything more than a device for consuming media

I think this is the main reason why I haven't went to a tablet. Despite its small screen size, there is a lot that I can do with my 4S.
Title: Re: Cruncheons 35: Book Club, Surface RT, iPad Refresh, Fallen Enchantress, XCOM
Post by: Eel O'Brian on November 05, 2012, 10:16:28 AM: Honestly, I have been considering dumping my iPad 3, getting a 16GB mini, and just keeping the leftover cash. I kind of want out of the Apple ecosystem, but between the iPod Touch I used to own, the iPad 1 I had to sell, and the 3 I now own, I've dropped around $150 in apps over the years. That's hard to walk away from, particularly if I had to rebuy a lot of that stuff on another tablet. The Mini would let me continue to use those apps, and I'd have around $150 left to put in my pocket (coincidentally around the amount I've already spent on Apps). If I ever wanted to upgrade in the future, it would cost a lot less money to do so. The screen isn't great, to put it kindly, but while I was at Best Buy I checked out some comics online and they seemed fine (the extra screen real estate actually made them a little more readable than the Nexus 7). I dunno, just kicking it around for now.
Title: Re: Cruncheons 35: Book Club, Surface RT, iPad Refresh, Fallen Enchantress, XCOM
Post by: MrAngryFace on November 05, 2012, 10:42:30 AM: I can do MOST things i'd want to do with a netbook on my Surface- but what i'd really like is for it to be my go-to work machine; waiting on the Pro for that. For now it's my note taking/email sending/forum browsing/communicating device while @ work. Also nice n subtle device for killing time during meetings ;)
Title: Re: Cruncheons 35: Book Club, Surface RT, iPad Refresh, Fallen Enchantress, XCOM
Post by: hampster on November 05, 2012, 10:24:39 PM: Quote from: The Experiment on November 05, 2012, 06:59:24 AM
Quote from: MrAngryFace on November 04, 2012, 06:06:45 PM
i've owned the first three generations of iPad and I still dont see how its anything more than a device for consuming media

I think this is the main reason why I haven't went to a tablet. Despite its small screen size, there is a lot that I can do with my 4S.

I still use an old ipod touch for all my tablet needs. But my eye sight isn't what it used to be, I think I'll need to upgrade soon