The intro promo with Punk/Heyman/AJ last week is one of the best segments in years.
the tag division is back, thats why. the primetime players need those belts
the tag division is back, thats why. the primetime players need those belts
That Kane and Daniel counseling session at that restaurant was amazing.
RAW (don't watch Smackdown!) has been pretty much been a borefest for years. Recent shows are no different, but there are a few bright spots here and there. I like the over-the-top stupid video segments with Daniel Bryan and Kane and the Punk/Heyman promo stuff...
...and that's it. Might be fun to see what happens with Ryberg and Punk, but he's just filler while John Cena heals up.
AJ as GM is stupid. The GM role itself is way past played-out and they need to do something new with it already, or at least get someone in the role that can actually DO something with it. Heyman back in that spot would be great.
And on the subject of AJ- her entrance theme sounds like "SLUT IT UP!!" Listen to it...you won't be able to unhear it! :lol
too late. its the same with too many limes.It's a shameful thing, lobster head.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NH9E_1sTFhw
Sandow is the greatest of all the new wrestlers recently.
This guy will be the next great heel after Punk hangs it up (which he said will be while he is still young enough to enjoy his life)
It's a shameful thing, lobster head.
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When did WWE get awesome again?
Kane and Daniel tag team is probably the funnest tag team I've seen since Public Enemy in the WCW
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HNGGGG
I haven't watched in a while, but heel CM Punk sounds great.
AJ featuring more in shows makes me want to kill myself though, most annoying wrestling character of all time.
Apparently Vince will be on tonight, some kind of AJ job review.
The big news is that Vince removed the RAW head writer, Brian Gerwitz, from his position after about 10 years. THAT may end up making a big difference.
The big news is that Vince removed the RAW head writer, Brian Gerwitz, from his position after about 10 years. THAT may end up making a big difference.
Who wrote the Attitude era?
did he roid rage or somethinIf a guy punches/pushes the back of your head I'm pretty sure you would get super angry or knock the dude out.
So I tried watching the last RAW show and its completely average. Why must you lie heruro?
Amazingly, the next RAW main event is going to be RYBACK versus Punk. Cena's arm must have not been ready. :lol
And Hell In A Cell is in Atlanta, too- it feels like Vince is totally trying to recreate Goldberg, lol.
Meanwhile, TNA had it's "biggest PPV of the year," Bound For Glory, which as usual felt like another episode of Impact.
The big Aces and Eights reveal? D-VON. :rofl
Ryback's only in the picture because Cena won't be healed in time for Hell in a Cell.
I saw Ryback live a few months ago and he's like a crazy super move cameo in a Capcom VS fighter instead of a main eventer.
^ hater
Well, looks like all the mid-card belts are irrelevant again. Thanks, WWE.The only two relevant belts are the WWE Championship and the Tag titles.
:lol pretending any of the belts mean anything today.
Doesnt surprise me in the least that WWE went to shit again since this thread was posted
Its no surprise that the rise of John Cena was at the same time I stopped giving a shit. I'm not blaming him specifically, since he worked fine before. Mostly how everything just fell apart, I mostly blame the brand split.
There was a good two week period around when this thread was posted where it wasnt disgusting
And let's not forget that other guys like Jack Swagger were also in the main event picture...then pushed back down to the lower-midcard.
And let's not forget that other guys like Jack Swagger were also in the main event picture...then pushed back down to the lower-midcard.
the best example of this is the miz. went from having the wwe championship to losing to fucking kofi kingston for the intercontinental belt. Is there a wrestler who was downgraded so fast ever before?
Hey, I did say "wasnt disgusting" not that it was good. Some segments were really good a few weeks ago but the overall show was usually poor.There was a good two week period around when this thread was posted where it wasnt disgusting
No there wasn't, there was a period where it was less bad than it usually is so it seems good. The low standards of what constitutes a good show is hilarious.
They fucked up by not making new stars when they had dozens of guys coming through OVW who were good but they killed them all.
I'm slightly interested in the PPV but only because they booked themselves into a corner with Ryback, not because they've created a good build.
Why does WWE do that shit?vincemcmahon.gif
Why does WWE do that shit?vincemcmahon.gif
This was only decent when drunk/high. Though the Sheamus and Big Show match was good.
Haha so HiaC to get its own Botchamania then?Randy and Del Rio alone could power the next 5 botchmanias
Survivor Series is going to own
btw i got like full rep green rep bar with only three posts :bow
"Naked Jelly Donut Stinkface" is probably not a phrase you've heard before, but former WWE developmental wrestler Devon Nicholson has issued a statement addressing the reports of 'inappropriate conduct' at WWE's former training school at Deep South Wrestling.Nicholson sent the following to Dave Meltzer of f4wonline.com:"I was in DSW during the time of the incident between Zack Ryder, Melissa Coates and Drew Hankinson. Nobody involved in the "Naked Jelly Donut Incident" were forced to do it. They volunteered to do it to get out of training that day. Bill had come up with the elaborate game because he wanted them to train and didn't think they'd agree to it."Hankinson was not "nearly naked" he was totally naked, the only thing covering his genital area were his hands. He was in the ring nude for approximately 30 - 45 minutes while Demott walked from one corner to the other holding up approximately 18 jelly donuts for Hankinson to "stink face" on both Zack Ryder and Melissa Coates. Ryder and Coates were cheered on heavily by many of the DSW talent who also did not want to train.""I had passed a try out and was paying to be there to learn wrestling and attempt to get a WWE contract but went back to wrestling in Puerto Rico shortly after this incident occurred. I doubt Vince McMahon knew that this type of "training" was going on in his territory and I had assumed him finding out was one of the reasons it was shut down and Demott was let go. Although I disagreed with some of his training methods, I had a good relationship with Bill Demott while I was in DSW and valued the wrestling related advice he gave me."
the shield will win.If they win with classic cowardly heel tricks they are DEAD. The only way to keep their momentum is to have them go over strong and dominant over KANE, BRYAN and THE RYBACK. Not seeing Vince oking that ever.
CM PUNK GOAT INJURED BY RYFUCKNah, his knee's been fucked up for a while now.
:maf
PWInsider.com is reporting there is a big push internally in WWE to make the product edgier.
While this is not Vince McMahon's idea, he's said to be on-board with listening for ideas as he recognizes numbers are down across the board. The hope is in light of the low ratings, to give the audience something different compared to what they've been seeing over the last couple years. According to the report, we can also expect to see more wrestling heavy programming.
Smack down and main event > rawSmackdown is pretty much always > Raw. Every year when the draft happens everyone laments all the talent being transferred over to Raw, expresses concern that SD won't be cool anymore, and SD always continues to be the true A show to most internet fans.
in terms of quality of product, 3hr RAW is the best thing to happen to the WWE in years.
Nope. Three hour RAW has lead to longer matches and time spent on the undercard. We have a US, Intercontinental, and Tag Team division because of 3 hour RAW. Cesaro has gotten a 10-20 minute match every week because of 3 hour RAW.
No one ever quits wrasslin
Who was the person who said TNA > WWE?Me. Because it is, if you dont agree then well, the WWE has made your wrestling brain rotten.
Watched TNA tonight and that shit is a joke. :lol
Who was the person who said TNA > WWE?
Watched TNA tonight and that shit is a joke. :lol
WWE just delivered one of the best matches of the year (probably the best). The Shield delivered.
This PPV was so cash.
Cesaro wins clean
The Shield wins clean
Rhodes Scholar wins clean
Sheamus loses again, clean
AJ heel turn
Ziggler with the superkick
Ziggler over Cena winning the mainevent
Best PPV of the year.
I hope Rollins is okay :(
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The "Barrah Barraj" is dead- the crowd was totally silent when Wade came out. And given how lively they were the rest of the night, that's really saying something.
I thought the ppv was great. Naomi pulled some moves, and with her having the Diva belt Diva matches won't be a complete bore anymore. Big Show v Sheamus was good but seemed boring because of the fucking shield match and ended on a high note. The Ziggler and Cena match was great though predictable (obvious AJ was going to turn heel). Have no complaints aside from the short Cesaro match. Cesaro god deserves better but it can't be helped if he injures R Truth.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hlrTxtdtOlI
Only bad part was Miz tv and 3mb v miz;etc
I also see no proof of a ziggler face turn, aside from the BK crowd putting him over John Pena. Most of the roster is made up of faces, so make more heels and make boring heels faces. They're on a good start by making Alberto a face since he was going NOWHERE as a heel. They'd be smart to make Kofi heel NOW because that crowd was dead towards Kofi and put Barrett over him. Kofi is the most safe and boring guy on the WWE roster, switch it up.
Anyone watching RAW tonight?
Why are the voting options on WWE Active so damn small?
Why are the voting options on WWE Active so damn small?
So people will accidentally vote for Cena
we know the slammy's are rigged if anger management does not win best lol segment
lmao ziggler
No daniel bryan vs punk as match of the year.(http://i.imgur.com/wphdf.gif)
No Daniel Bryan matches AT ALL.
that dude is going to fail a wellness test. looks like he has been awake for 20 years(http://i.minus.com/igJtSZKGz10pG.gif)
going to the houston show
oh god why did i watch this weeks episode
:nsfwI wish to throw gasoline and a lit match on the server that hosts this
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that dude is going to fail a wellness test. looks like he has been awake for 20 years(http://i.minus.com/igJtSZKGz10pG.gif)
You guys realize it's all acting, right?
Low Ki is wrestling his match as Agent 47
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You guys realize it's all acting, right?
what is the point of this year long build up if punk ends up losing? shouldn't this be about him gaining respect and solidifying his legacy as a legend? If they go with rock vs cena 2 they are flat out distinguished mentally-challenged and I may end up going on a 6 month to a year break after mania season.
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Because it's John Cena. Even if other guys are more deserving and need that push, the WWE revolves around him and everything he's been involved in for the past year has been busy work getting him ready for The Rock rematch. I expect his feud with Ziggler to just end come the Rumble when Cena tosses a banana peel out in front of him causing Ziggler to do a 360 flip out of the ring or something equally embarrassing for the future WHC. I mean shit, Ziggler could even get a dirty win over Cena last night and he used all his moves (his superkick looks really nice, by the way).
The Rock wins at the Rumble and takes the title into Elimination Chamber where he faces Cena, Punk and two randoms. Cena almost wins but there's some screwy interference and Rock retains. This sets up Cena vs Rock for the title (Cena wins it, duh) and Punk goes on to either not be in WM29 or faces Lesnar, Undertaker, Randy Orton or a returning superstar like Christian or Mark Henry.
Well Rock is also going to be at Elimination Chamber apparently.
So there's a sliver of hope that Punk leaves RR with the championship. Will he will clean? Probably not. Will he win at all? Probably not. But I can see a scenario in which Cena wins the RR and then Rock wins the championship at EC and then Punk gets wrapped up in another feud about respect going into WM.
I think the overall show sucked aside from Pipe bomb/punk vs Rock.
Ziggler, the guy they're pushing now, hit Cena with his finisher TWICE, Cena still kicks out, Big E came out and laid out Cena with his finisher, CENA STILL KICKS OUT. Cena hits Ziggs with Attitude Adjustment and wins? Bullshit. Way to bury and not put someone over taco.
Cesaro vs Khali rematch was good. Nice to show the denizens of Raw the GAWD.
Wade Barrett and Santino? Santino sucks. Get rid of his ass. Steamboat owns though.
I agree that if it is still like this after Mania I may go on break.
The Rock's intensity still made CM Punk back down. He seemed almost surprised by the Rock's responses to him, which is weird given his "pipe bomb" before that.
The Rock's intensity still made CM Punk back down. He seemed almost surprised by the Rock's responses to him, which is weird given his "pipe bomb" before that.
???
That's just Punk giving Rock his time to shine that they were building up to dude.
Once Punk actually had the mic, he made Rock go from superman to oldman in no time flat.
Punk eviscerated Rock. Intensity? More like "same old shit new year."
Big E. reminds me of a bear stuffed into a marshmallow (:heart)
I dont think it's worth talking about Cena anymore, EVERYONE with sense should just record the show and forward when his bullshit comes up.
After what happened on Smackdown, it's very clear that JOHN CENA is winning the Rumble.
After what happened on Smackdown, it's very clear that JOHN CENA is winning the Rumble.
WWE has signed El Generico to a deal, PWInsider.com confirmed this morning. As we noted several months back, the company has had interest in him and it's been Generico's goal since not signing with Ring of Honor to get into the company.
One of the reasons WWE was so interested in Generico was that he speaks a number of different languages. The feeling was that would in handy as an asset for international markets.
Generico was removed from this weekend's Pro Wrestling Guerrilla event in California and it appears may already be done on the independent scene. He returned to Ring of Honor at Final Battle 2012 in what may prove to be his last-ever match with longtime partner/rival Kevin Steen.
Generico's signing is said to be part of a bigger WWE plan as the company has a number of names on their radar that they want to lock in for deals. I am told it's a Triple H move and that there will be a lot more signings to come, as long as those the company are interested in can pass the necessary medical exams.
QuoteWWE has signed El Generico to a deal, PWInsider.com confirmed this morning. As we noted several months back, the company has had interest in him and it's been Generico's goal since not signing with Ring of Honor to get into the company.
One of the reasons WWE was so interested in Generico was that he speaks a number of different languages. The feeling was that would in handy as an asset for international markets.
Generico was removed from this weekend's Pro Wrestling Guerrilla event in California and it appears may already be done on the independent scene. He returned to Ring of Honor at Final Battle 2012 in what may prove to be his last-ever match with longtime partner/rival Kevin Steen.
Generico's signing is said to be part of a bigger WWE plan as the company has a number of names on their radar that they want to lock in for deals. I am told it's a Triple H move and that there will be a lot more signings to come, as long as those the company are interested in can pass the necessary medical exams.
Promote HHH
Have Vince retire
Not every idea is going to work you negative nancy.
Sin Cara was a Triple H move, too.
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Sin Cara is a great talent and has major popularity in Mexico. It was a good hire, especially when he's improved via his pairing with Rey.
Not every idea is going to work you negative nancy.
They don't have ANY ideas that are working. :lol
Not every idea is going to work you negative nancy.
They don't have ANY ideas that are working. :lol
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Cm punk and rock feud is pretty good so far.
Shield owns,
tag team division is fun,
Cesaro is booked very consistently and is awesome week after week,
It is pretty clear week in and week out you don't like anything about wwe. Watch nxt or just stop watching wwe and watch new japan and roh.
You say it is shit when anyone with sense would realize they are slowly changing everything about their format:
by rebuilding the tag division,
slowly dismantling the diva division and rebuild it,
introducing new talent and giving them major main event storylines
as they prepare for the future. Only an idiot would be unable to see this.
You see Sin Cara as a failure on Triple H's part? How? Like shark said it was a good intl business move and by partnering with Rey he will learn to adapt to the WWE style. Rey had to go through the same thing when he came to the company.
It is like you expect it to get better instantly. Fucking smarks.
At this week's CES media conference in Las Vegas, WWE executive Perkins Miller revealed that WWE plans to expand their "WWE Active" mobile App to help offset declining TV ratings. This would especially apply to three-hour Raws.
Perkins said that in addition to running special voting, such as for the Slammy Awards, WWE plans to expand live streaming of video content during Raw, potentially offer games to win points while watching WWE TV, implement a social media element into the software, and offer other content that will prevent viewers from changing the channel.
Perkins said the App "enables our fans to stay completely connected to the show and stay glued to the couch throughout our commercial breaks through the entire show. It's a really powerful tool to sustain a rating."
The plan comes at a time when Raw was riding a 20-show streak of third hour viewership declining from the second hour.
Regarding the expansion of content available on the App, Perkins said WWE CEO Vince McMahon "is so content-focused, he's even said that the content on the second screen can be as good as you can see on television."
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I'm with bork on this, but I do realize that it's mostly cause wrestling just isn't for me anymore. Yet I still follow it every now and again cause I used to be huge into it.
God I hate people who dissect and quote shit line for line.
If you're with Bork please tell me what is going on in WWE tv currently so I know that you're at least knowledgeable and not agreeing with him out of spite and ignorance.
That's not true. I think most of it is garbage (which it is), but there are some things I like. You have already flip-flopped in this thread, starting it out all hyped up for the WWE, then calling it mediocre, and now you have a hard-on for it again for whatever reason.
I can't remember- did you watch wrasslin' back in the 80s/90s? If not, maybe that's why you don't hate what's on there now. It's total crap. I think it HAS improved in some ways, but it is still grade A wrestlecrap all the way.
Anyways, Bork, as usual, you're wrong. Cesaro does not have a feud with Khali
and has been extremely well booked for months,
the tag team division is just getting started as they're building up their tag teams without Team Hell No to support it, Sin Cara is a failure but your initial point was that Sin Cara being a failure is a slight on Triple H when picking up Mistico is a good business move failure or not.
Your complaints mostly seem to be,"WHY ISN'T IT GOOD NOW?"
When it is clear to pretty much everyone else that they are slowly improving the thing.
In the past year we have had Cesaro, The Shield, Ryback, and Big E introduced to the roster and placed in near good mid card and main event roles.
WWE is clearly trying to create new talent and superstars. I said in that original post they've introduced new talent, and you only concentrate on Ryback. Cute.
Why don't you do us a favor and stop watching WWE programming? If it has been bad for more than a decade, why do you continue to watch? Do what I did and take a hiatus.
Cop-out reply to one-sided argument, Exodust's fantastic reply ignored
Just spare me and the rest of the thread your constant mewling every time you disagree.
You do realize that everything you dissed about the Attitude Era is still prevalent in this one right? Now lets see what the Attitude Era had over this one:
-Much more charismatic wrestlers who were bigger and better draws than 99% of the wrestlers now.
- Every belt got better exposure than it did now.
- Storylines were not exactly better but were definitely more unpredictable making for better TV.
- Most if not all wrestlers were at least decent which led to better matches.
- The Main Event was much bigger, broader and had better wrestlers.
- Faces weren't the only ones who won clean.
- Heels were more vile and managed to draw a lot of heat.
- More wrestlers were put over than buried in that era.
- Say what you will about the Attitude era, but this is wrestling. It's more fun to see people trash talk and have brawls with blood and shit than whatever stupid PG rated Cena wankfest we got now.
- Despite how it cared more about soap opera like shit, we had actual big matches on Raw more often with title changes that mattered.
- What do you mean the belts lost more clout then? You have a fucking spinner belt where a wrestler who got big in 2005 has already won it over 12 times. Hell you have two world championships now.
- Stone Cold Steve Austin, The Undertaker, Triple H, The Rock, Kurt Angle and Mankind was probably the best main event roster of all time.
- There was a reason that crowd poped more and cared more about wrestlers back then. They put on better matches and were a thousand times the showman these ones are.
- I'll give that after the fingerpoke of doom WCW fell off hard, especially with that stupid Jeff Jarrett era and the idiotic Millionaires Club face faction. But WCW from the start of NWO to the rise of Goldberg is easily some of the best wrestling on TV. You had the Cruiser Weight division, international wrestlers, factions feuding against each other like gangs, Sting, Goldberg, NWO, DDP and more in the main event. Most of WCW's downfall can be attributed to Kevin Nash's terrible writing and a mishandled Bret Hart. And yet it still got more and better crowd reaction than this WWE product.
Yeah please use the nostalgia card, cause that always works. The fact of the matter is that yes bad shit in Wrestling was always there, but even the bad was entertaining, and i'd take that over the whole lot of boring the WWE is now.
Cop-out reply to one-sided argument, Exodust's fantastic reply ignored
Just spare me and the rest of the thread your constant mewling every time you disagree.
No. This thread is for discussion. Stop getting riled up because people's opinions differ from yours. The only only arguing here is you, with "NO YOU'RE WRONG" posts. I'm not doing that. Exodust isn't doing that. It's just you. Chill out, relax, and let's talk wrassle.
burying some former WCW stars
I stopped watching around the time that guys like Orton and Cena were getting a foothold in the midcard. There was definitely a standard WWE style you could see in how those guys wrestled, along with Brock Lesnar, Batista, Shelton Benjamin & Charlie Haas, etc. Maybe not the movesets so much, but they all threw their fake punches the same way, raised their free arm really high for Irish whips, stuff like that. One of the things I really enjoyed about wrestling was the different regional and personal styles that these guys developed, and it had started to feel more and more homogenized.
Like how in a tag match there's always a dude crawling to get a tag while the next guy runs over the other team when he does. WWE needs to realize sometimes you need a squash and even a normal match with no drama to make the good ones look even better.
burying some former WCW stars
They seemed to put a premium on grooming the homegrown guys, maybe from scars left by the talent exodus to WCW in the mid-late 90's. Certainly seemed like they were more comfortable with guys who had come up through the system, or who identified as WWE guys, rather than wrestlers who would always be keeping their options open (ironic since all the talent are "independent contractors" IIRC).
I stopped watching around the time that guys like Orton and Cena were getting a foothold in the midcard. There was definitely a standard WWE style you could see in how those guys wrestled, along with Brock Lesnar, Batista, Shelton Benjamin & Charlie Haas, etc. Maybe not the movesets so much, but they all threw their fake punches the same way, raised their free arm really high for Irish whips, stuff like that. One of the things I really enjoyed about wrestling was the different regional and personal styles that these guys developed, and it had started to feel more and more homogenized.
Also, wrassling always has the curse of trying to produce 4+ hours of new TV every week, written by guys who aren't exactly David Simon. There's a certain amount of crappiness baked into the format.
Couldn't have said it any better myself, fantastic post man. I forgot how every match started getting more predictable too. Like how in a tag match there's always a dude crawling to get a tag while the next guy runs over the other team when he does. WWE needs to realize sometimes you need a squash and even a normal match with no drama to make the good ones look even better.
Also agreed on most of what you said Himuro, I've always been on and off with wrestling even when it was good but I kept hovering around it cause it was always interesting. Now i'm wondering what have been the great matches from after WM24 cause I'm interested and i have the free time to justify it.
Forgot to mention, finally watched New Japan Wrestle Kingdom 7.
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Good shit.
Big Show has finally found 'it' and it's great. I thought he was the fucking worse talent the WWE had in employment for years. But his heel run has been fucking rad. All his matches have largely been great. Hopefully he ends his career on a high like this.
We were talking about Generico being signed to WWE and how it was an awesome move from Triple H. Then you post something about Sin Cara, as if that is proof of anything, when Triple H is behind a myriad of some of the best talent pick ups and storylines recently: including The Shield and tag team revival.
By your language, it gives off an air that nothing will please you, despite the very clear idea that the company is trying.
They are scouring RoH and PWG for indie talent, they are going after international wrestling stars like Sin Cara (failed) and Alberto Del Rio (success) to secure some international success.
They are graduating their NXT headliners to the main program and getting them involved in the main event, or if not that, building them up so that they eventually reach the main event.
They have shifted from Cena and gave CM Punk an over year long title reign.
They are shifting from big, bad guys to smaller men like Daniel Bryan, CM Punk, Antonio Cesaro, Seth Rollins, and Dean Ambrose.
That is not discussion. It is repetition.
Clearly, to anyone with a brain, WWE is attempting to secure their future. And I think it's fun to watch.
Big Show has finally found 'it' and it's great. I thought he was the fucking worse talent the WWE had in employment for years. But his heel run has been fucking rad. All his matches have largely been great. Hopefully he ends his career on a high like this.
- Brand split doesn't even matter anymore, so just kill it already.
He definitely resembles his dad and there's that swagger. But dude needs a better look than bald head and no beard, he just looks like yet another generic white dude who happens to be son of a legend.
I am glad you had fun Himuro. It sucked watching from home and was a huge disappointment for me other than the Rock and Punk
I am glad you had fun Himuro. It sucked watching from home and was a huge disappointment for me other than the Rock and Punk
It was just another episode of RAW- awful as the 20th anniversary tribute show - but OK as a RAW show I guess. I liked the backstage Team Hell No/Rhodes Scholars segment and the Rock/Punk stuff and that was about it, although I missed most of the cage match with Cena/Ziggler.
Although think about this. On the RAW 20TH ANNIVERSARY TRIBUTE SHOW, HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPION CM PUNK had a match against...BRODUS CLAY. Who admitted to happily "shucking and jiving."
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Holy shit, I haven't seen a corkscrew in a long time. I miss over the top finishers :(
They are trying really hard to get Alberto Del Rio over as a baby face. He did a promo for I believe the WWE App where he said that Big Show would go down just like the Ravens will go down to the Niners, then said 'Who's got it better than us? Nobody" which is the Niners slogan. It can be found on the WWE website (and of course, the WWE App) if you want to check it out. They didn't have the crowd mic'd into it on the WWE website, but it got the biggest pop of the night, even bigger than the Rock.
After The Rock got taken down by the Shield, he said 'You got me this time. But I promise you I will be WWE Champion."
The dark match after air was John Cena and Sheamus beat Big Show and Wade Barrett. Cena getting the pin on Big Show. Then Del Rio fought Show off and ended the night giving everyone high fives.
Anyway the wrestler specific VHS tapes had an assortment of matches and sometimes a montage, the Warrior one had Blackend effectively introducing me to Metallica and Heavy Metal :rock Most of the matches though were The Warrior Vs. The Undertaker. So for the longest time I thought they had a long standing feud, it was definitely one of my favorites as a kid. When I look Warrior or Takers history there's no mention of it, until I stumbled upon a comment about how they faced off a lot in house shows :lol
I specifically remember the body bag match and that match is specifically mentioned as a house show :lol
Both PWInsider.com and WrestlingObserver.com have reported that Cena's promo was so bad, he actually had heat backstage. His promo was such a steaming pile of **** that the other wrestlers in the back were left scratching their heads wondering what in the hell this man was doing talking about video games with children in the audience when he was supposed to be selling us on the Royal Rumble match. - Cageside.com
CENA TRASHED BACKSTAGEQuoteBoth PWInsider.com and WrestlingObserver.com have reported that Cena's promo was so bad, he actually had heat backstage. His promo was such a steaming pile of **** that the other wrestlers in the back were left scratching their heads wondering what in the hell this man was doing talking about video games with children in the audience when he was supposed to be selling us on the Royal Rumble match. - Cageside.com
bork why have you not joined
http://www.thebore.com/forum/index.php?topic=39443.0
CENA TRASHED BACKSTAGEQuoteBoth PWInsider.com and WrestlingObserver.com have reported that Cena's promo was so bad, he actually had heat backstage. His promo was such a steaming pile of **** that the other wrestlers in the back were left scratching their heads wondering what in the hell this man was doing talking about video games with children in the audience when he was supposed to be selling us on the Royal Rumble match. - Cageside.com
PWInsider didn't report it as heat as much as a topic of conversation. No one can truly have heat with Cena or they will end up like Colt Cabana or Alex Riley.
What happened to Riley?
Cena constantly took verbal shits on him backstage in front of others. Riley attacked him back verbally and his push ended and he became a Jobber to Jobbers because John Cena was upset.
No. John Cena drastically wants to change his character but WWE aka Vince won't let him. He was given free reign with that promo and it was shit. He should be talking less and doing scripted promos, not talking on the mic like Punk. That said he's still not popular in the back because he's the golden boy. Either he's not putting people over because he's got HBK GOAT ego or creative doesn't WANT him to put people over and he goes along with it. Considering his willingness to put over people like Punk, I gotta say it's probably creative.
It's not dirt sheet. Remember Cena walking out on Punk in the middle of a promo in 2011? It's a part of that.
Cena is stated as being very annoyed with his position within the company
and it doesn't take much logic to know that for Vince Cena > all.
CM Punk and The Rock are headlining Rumble and this dude is still at the center of attention. You can call it what you want.
Either he goes along with the shitty booking like everyone else, or he has an almost Hogan like ego in that he refuses to put people over. The other week he took what, two or three of Dolph's finishers AND one of Big E's and STILL KICKED OUT? No. He has to be calling these matches.
Observer Awards for 2012:spoiler (click to show/hide)LOU THESZ/RIC FLAIR AWARD (WRESTLER OF THE YEAR)
1. HIROSHI TANAHASHI (419) 3,328
2. C.M. Punk (294) 2,325
3. Kazuchika Okada (75) 1,221
4. John Cena (31) 857
5. Daniel Bryan (5) 204
6. Austin Aries (2) 157
7. Bobby Roode (10) 130
8. Cima (3) 101
9. Sheamus (4) 69
10. The Rock (2) 37
MOST OUTSTANDING WRESTLER
1. HIROSHI TANAHASHI (394) 2,695
2. Kazuchika Okada (114) 1,326
3. Daniel Bryan (153) 1,273
4. El Generico (55) 515
5. C.M. Punk (34) 469
6. Austin Aries (20) 358
7. Davey Richards (18) 317
8. Dolph Ziggler (2) 244
9. Daisuke Sekimoto (5) 197
10. Tetsuya Naito (1) 161
BEST BOX OFFICE DRAW
1. THE ROCK (422) 2,620
2. John Cena (92) 1,564
3. Brock Lesnar (123) 1,309
4. Anderson Silva (55) 733
5. Georges St-Pierre (26) 565
6. Chael Sonnen (9) 317
7. Hiroshi Tanahashi (22) 245
8. Jon Jones (2) 212
9. C.M. Punk (4) 121
FEUD OF THE YEAR
1. HIROSHI TANAHASHI VS. KAZUCHIKA OKADA (275) 1,753
2. Anderson Silva vs. Chael Sonnen (238) 1,689
3. The Rock vs. John Cena (121) 1,136
4. C.M. Punk vs. Daniel Bryan (49) 512
5. Ronda Rousey vs. Miesha Tate (15) 371
6. John Cena vs. C.M. Punk (16) 291
7. Blue Panther vs. Negro Casas (25) 271
8. John Cena vs. Brock Lesnar (7) 235
9. Yuji Nagata vs. Stack of Arms ( 214
10. Bobby Roode vs. James Storm (22) 203
TAG TEAM OF THE YEAR
1. CHRISTOPHER DANIELS & KAZARIAN (373) 2,248
2. Kane & Daniel Bryan (124) 1,219
3. Young Bucks (78) 1,071
4. Mark & Jay Briscoe (43) 805
5. Takao Omori & Manabu Soya (73) 612
6. Super Smash Brother (61) 579
7. Daisuke Sekimoto & Yuji Okabayashi (51) 539
8. Satoshi Kojima & Hiroyoshi Tenzan ( 347
9. Katsuyori Shibata & Kazushi Sakuraba (2) 184
10. Cody Rhodes & Damien Sandow (3) 161
MOST IMPROVED
1. KAZUCHIKA OKADA (517) 2,948
2. Michael Elgin (52) 887
3. Rush (64) 576
4. Damien Sandow (33) 552
5. Bully Ray (25) 344
6. Adam Cole (14) 322
7. Karl Anderson (1) 253
8. Titus O’Neil (9) 194
9. Dolph Ziggler (20) 178
10. Frankie Kazarian (18) 173
BEST ON INTERVIEWS
1. C.M. PUNK (365) 2,668
2. Chael Sonnen (145) 1,557
3. The Rock (129) 1,131
4. Paul Heyman (37) 608
5. Christopher Daniels (12) 299
6. Kevin Steen (14) 291
7. Bully Ray (22) 284
8. Daniel Bryan (14) 272
9. Big Show (2) 176
10. Austin Aries ( 167
MOST CHARISMATIC
1. THE ROCK (298) 2,077
2. Hiroshi Tanahashi (74) 1,275
3. John Cena (69) 1,067
4. C.M. Punk (107) 1,032
5. Daniel Bryan (67) 539
6. Chael Sonnen (28) 378
7. Brock Lesnar (6) 281
8. Georges St-Pierre (3) 199
9. Shinsuke Nakamura (2) 124
10. Austin Aries (1) 117
BEST TECHNICAL WRESTLER
1. DANIEL BRYAN (391) 2,513
2. Prince Devitt (122) 1,030
3. Davey Richards (43) 969
4. Hiroshi Tanahashi (77) 774
5. Zack Sabre Jr. (52) 536
6. Yuji Nagata (41) 369
7. Austin Aries (13) 273
8. Daisuke Sekimoto (2) 144
9. Negro Casas (5) 134
10. Eddie Edwards (3) 119
BRUISER BRODY MEMORIAL AWARD (BEST BRAWLER)
1. KEVIN STEEN (368) 2,457
2. Togi Makabe (49) 755
3. Bully Ray (71) 726
4. Sheamus (31) 716
5. Brock Lesnar (69) 466
6. Sami Callihan (27) 404
7. Michael Elgin (3) 231
8. Big Show (26) 221
9. Minoru Suzuki (29) 203
10. L.A. Park (11) 176
BEST FLYING WRESTLER
1. KOTA IBUSHI (285) 1,857
2. Ricochet (111) 1,229
3. Pac (88) 1,108
4. El Generico (87) 722
5. A.R. Fox (46) 540
6. La Sombra (17) 415
7. Samuray del Sol (46) 412
8. Prince Devitt (9) 300
9. Mascara Dorada (26) 271
10. Kenny Omega (22) 241
MOST OVERRATED
1. RYBACK (148) 1,028
2. The Miz (88) 825
3. Garett Bischoff (55) 405
4. Randy Orton (21) 299
5. Ken Anderson (9) 295
6. Sheamus (13) 286
7. Matt Morgan (21) 240
8. Big Show (2) 195`
9. Rob Van Dam (14) 142
10. Brodus Clay (1) 134
MOST UNDERRATED
1. TYSON KIDD (286) 1,629
2. Dolph Ziggler (85) 718
3. Daniel Bryan (56) 357
4. Kassius Ohno (32) 293
5. Jack Swagger (9) 260
6. Drew McIntyre (19) 251
7. Sin Cara (18) 209
8. Satoshi Ishii (15) 183
9. Hunico (6) 172
10. Justin Gabriel 139
PROMOTION OF THE YEAR
1. NEW JAPAN PRO WRESTLING (497) 3,452
2. Ultimate Fighting Championships (91) 1,388
3. World Wrestling Entertainment (85) 1,357
4. Dragon Gate (33) 477
5. CHIKARA Pro (19) 344
6. Total Nonstop Action (18) 324
7. Pro Wrestling Guerrilla (3) 308
8. IWRG (5) 255
9. AAA (12) 253
10. ROH 133
BEST WEEKLY TV SHOW
1. TNA IMPACT (122) 1,043
2. Ring of Honor (73) 926
3. WWE NXT (61) 869
4. WWE Monday Night Raw (76) 828
5. WWE Main Event (85) 819
6. Dragon Gate Infinity (65) 781
7. WWE Smackdown (28) 591
8. Bellator (60) 433
9. New Japan World Pro Wrestling (62) 401
10. Fight Factory (36) 289
PRO WRESTLING MATCH OF THE YEAR
1. HIROSHI TANAHASHI VS. MINORU SUZUKI 10/8 TOKYO (277) 2,014
2. John Cena vs. Brock Lesnar 4/29 Chicago(87) 1,202
3. Davey Richards vs. Michael Elgin 3/31 Ft. Lauderdale (146) 1,185
4. Hiroshi Tanahashi vs. Kazuchika Okada 6/16 Osaka (121) 1,057
5. Undertaker vs. HHH 4/1 Miami (77) 859
6. Kazuchika Okada vs. Tetsuya Naito 3/4 Tokyo (68) 661
7. Kenny Omega vs. Kota Ibushi 8/18 Tokyo (35) 204
8. C.M. Punk vs. Daniel Bryan 5/20 Raleigh (4) 180
9. The Rock vs. John Cena 4/1 Miami (18) 135
10. Blue Panther vs. ***** Casas 3/2 Mexico City (2) 121
ROOKIE OF THE YEAR
1. DINASTIA (199) 1,530
2. Mr. Touchdown (214) 1,496
3. Eita Kobayashi (106) 755
4. ACH (5) 519
5. Saturyne (31) 341
6. Tadarius Thomas (40) 291
7. Ross & Marshall Von Erich (1) 110
BEST NON-WRESTLER
1. PAUL HEYMAN (479) 2,747
2. Ricardo Rodriguez (97) 1,291
3. Vickie Guerrero (24) 722
4. A.J. (22) 464
5. Gedo (25) 404
6. John Laurinaitis (3) 172
7. Truth Martini (4) 157
8. Vince McMahon (2) 153
9. Nigel McGuinness ( 129
10. Jim Cornette 99
BEST TELEVISION ANNOUNCER
1. JIM ROSS (234) 1,902
2. Nigel McGuinness (205) 1,647
3. William Regal (64) 967
4. Joe Rogan (130) 965
5. JBL (47) 777
6. Kevin Kelly (29) 364
7. Mike Tenay (10) 192
8. Michael Schiavello (24) 181
9. Jesse Manuel Guillen (12) 175
10. Mike Goldberg (6) 115
WORST TELEVISION ANNOUNCER
1. MICHAEL COLE (166) 1,723
2. Taz (117) 1,242
3. Booker T (151) 1,023
4. Jerry Lawler (109) 920
5. Josh Matthews (23) 412
6. The Miz (28) 214
7. Todd Keneley (17) 184
8. Mike Goldberg (10) 135
9. Jesus Zuniga (12) 95
10. Mike Tenay ( 90
BEST MAJOR SHOW
1. NEW JAPAN KINGS OF PRO WRESTLING 10/8 TOKYO (425)2,618
2. WWE Extreme Rules 4/29 Chicago (118) 1,348
3. WWE WrestleMania 4/1 Miami (13) 1,033
4. New Japan Dominion 6/16 Osaka (23) 479
5. ROH Glory by Honor 10/13 Mississauga (38) 364
6. All Japan 3/20 Tokyo (2) 323
7. CMLL Anniversary show 9/14 Arena Mexico (29) 257
8. UFC 146 All Heavyweight show 5/26 Las Vegas (13) 213
9. WWE TLC 2011 12/18 Baltimore (17) 185
10. TNA Destination X 7/8 Orlando (2) 184
WORST MAJOR SHOW
1. UFC 149 7/21 CALGARY 214
2. Extreme Reunion 4/28 Philadelphia 113
3. WWE No Way Out 5/20 East Rutherford, NJ 94
4. TNA Against All Odds 2/12 Orlando 74
5. TNA Genesis 1/8 Orlando 39
6. WWE Royal Rumble 1/29 St. Louis 32
7. TNA Lockdown 4/15 Nashville 28
8. WWE Hell in a Cell 10/28 Atlanta 27
9. TNA No Surrender 9/9 Orlando 23
10. UFC on FX Maynard vs. Guida 6/22 Atlantic City 19
BEST WRESTLING MANEUVER
1. KAZUCHIKA OKADA RAINMAKER 201
2. Antonio Cesaro Neutralizer 92
3. Daniel Bryan Yes/No/LeBell lock 82
4. Antonio Cesaro versions of bolo forearm 64
5. Ricochet 630 30
6. Sonjay Dutt moonsault double foot stomp 29
7. Dragon Kid dragon rana 18
MOST DISGUSTING PROMOTIONAL TACTIC
1. WWE’S PRESENTATION OF PAUL HEYMAN AND C.M. PUNK COMING IN DURING JERRY LAWLER’S RETURN, AIRING CLIPS OF HIM WHILE HE WAS DEAD AND BEING REVIVED, AND THE FAKE HEART ATTACK PROMO 493
2. Extreme Rising using Sabu’s overdose/passing out while advertising his return to the promotion 44
3. UFC’s handling of Jeremy Stephens’ arrest, trying to bail him out and still have him fight on the show while he was stuck in jail that afternoon 27
4. Linda McMahon’s senatorial campaign and how WWE handled it 19
WORST TELEVISION SHOW
1. WWE RAW 319
2. TNA Impact 199
3. Ultimate Fighter: Nelson vs. Carwin 81
4. WWE Smackdown 71
5. Ring of Honor 41
6. CMLL 17
7. Championship Wrestling from Hollywood 16
WORST MATCH OF THE YEAR
1. JOHN CENA VS. JOHN LAURINAITIS 5/20 RALEIGH 151
2. Santino Marella vs. Ricardo Rodriguez 6/17 E Rutherford 78
3. Clay Guida vs. Gray Maynard 6/22 Atlantic City 48
4. John Cena vs. Kane 1/29 St. Louis 38
5. Gunner vs. Kris Lewis 8/23 Orlando 38
6. Divas Battle Royal 8/20 Fresno 29
7. Sheamus vs. Daniel Bryan 4/1 Miami 28
8. Brodus Clay vs. David Otunga 6/17 East Rutherford 25
9. Gunner vs. Garett Bischoff 2/12 Orlando 21
WORST FEUD OF THE YEAR
1. JOHN CENA VS. KANE 253
2. TNA vs. Aces and 8s 192
3. John Cena vs. John Laurinaitis 65
4. Kane vs. Zack Ryder 43
5. Vickie Guerrero vs. A.J. Lee 41
6. A.J. Styles vs. Claire Lynch 19
WORST PROMOTION OF THE YEAR
1. TOTAL NONSTOP ACTION 269
2. Ring of Honor 202
3. World Wrestling Entertainment 80
4. Pro Wrestling NOAH 72
5. Extreme Rising 65
6. Strikeforce 56
7. Bellator 44
8. Inoki Genome Federation 32
9. Championship Wrestling from Hollywood 18
BEST BOOKER
1. GEDO & JADO 592
2. Joe Silva 154
3. Mike Quackenbush 58
4. Vince McMahon 20
PROMOTER OF THE YEAR
1. DANA WHITE 379
2. Takaaki Kidani 289
3. Vince McMahon 171
4. Mike Quackenbush 59
BEST GIMMICK
1. JOSEPH PARK 154
2. Damien Sandow Savior of the Masses 147
3. Daniel Bryan Yes/No 111
4. Kazuchika Okada Rainmaker 97
5. CM Punk all year as champion 58
5. Ryback 53
6. Team Hell No 26
7. Antonio Cesaro 21
8. Bray Wyatt 19
9. Bully Ray 17
WORST GIMMICK
1. ACES AND 8S 163
2. Tensai 148
3. Natalya 92
4. Claire Lynch 90
5. Brodus Clay 48
6. The Miz 27
7. AJ als General Manager 21
8. Joseph Park 18
BEST PRO WRESTLING BOOK
1. JONATHAN SNOWDEN - SHOOTERS 137
2: Steven Johnson, Greg Oliver, Mike Mooneyham & JJ Dillon - Heroes & Icons: The Pro Wrestling Hall of Fame 72
3: Booker T - From Prison to Promise 49
4: Lance Storm - Storm Front 23
BEST PRO WRESTLING DVD
1. CM PUNK BEST IN THE WORLD 548
2. Last of McGuinness 21
3. Such Great Heights: The Jon Fitch Story 19[close]
What are you talking about
Fuck wrestlgaf how do I invade
Was this episode worth it then? FUK YOU BORK LASER WHY YOU F5 ME?
Tonight's episode of RAW felt like a really important episode of Smackdown.
i didn't notice what punk did here:
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i didn't notice what punk did here:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hewFrqjtWFA
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(http://i.imgur.com/qp2fxOH.jpg)Do all webcomics need useless panels between the setup and punchline.
(http://i.imgur.com/qp2fxOH.jpg)Do all webcomics need useless panels between the setup and punchline.
This place is pretty good if you stay out of the relationship and wrestiling threads. If you want a good laugh, read through the school shooting thread. Drew is going to win poster of the year if he keeps it up in that thread.
It just hit me that Ziggler wasn't on RAW either this week. He was in Atlanta and worked a dark match instead. Weird.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8S06GagVuWI
Holy shit why didn't anybody tell me about this.
I'll be watching cause i have nothing else to do.
New one is pretty terrible too.
So the fuck what. Just enjoy it. The feud is good. Punk and Cena bring out the best in each other and I'm liking this storyline. Soon, The Gassed will be gone, we'll see what happens after WM. Cena won't be Champion for long, he doesn't benefit from it. The WWE, however, does benefit from a Cena WM championship, and it's all about dat payola. Cena will have the belt gone by MitB especially since Del Rio is definitely losing the belt at WM, and Big Show is now strapless, Kane will be be available since Hell No will be broken up. Shut the fuck up, enjoy it, and stop complaining about a Cena championship.
Swagger has no charisma, but his manager is good. And a good manager can make a wrestler with no charisma into something special. Swagger just needs to stop saying WE THE PEOPLE AD NASEUM.
Design looks eh but not horrible on RAW due to lighting, but looks great in pics. :yeshrug: Also like it how it looks on Rock's shoulders. Customizable side plates :bow
The WWE-produced "The Rise And Fall Of ECW" is good. No revisionist bullshit in there.
Raw :yuck
ah shit, guy finally had an anyurism? or however thats spelled?Kane never let him out of the freezer he stuck him in
Triple H: "Rest in peace, Paul Bearer. You will never be forgotten. There will never be another."
Hulk Hogan: "Very sad about Paul Bearer, he was a great person and one of the original boys, he was what made wrestling great, much love and respect."
Bret Hart: "Goodbye to a good friend, Paul Bearer. Say hi to Owen for me."
Michelle McCool: "You always made me smile. Great entertainer, even better man! We love you and will forever miss you! God bless."
Sean Waltman: "I'm so at a loss right now for words... I've known him since 1995 and I can't get myself together enough to write anything at the moment... I will miss you, William Moody. George Jones on the radio and Jack Daniels. His crazy sense of humor. I laughed more to him that just about anyone."
Edge: "Very sad to hear about William Moody/Paul Bearer. Such a sweet man, and my friend. My condolences to his family. I'll miss ya Uncle Paul."
Kevin Von Erich: "Percy Pringle was such a funny guy. Everyone loved him."
Matt Morgan: "Damn. One of my favorite characters as a little boy, and one that I befriended as a man, gone. One of the all time best!
Ricardo Rodriguez: "Paul Bearer/William Moody, you taught me so much. It truly sadens me to hear about this! I love you, and I think you enterally. RIP."
Shawn Michaels: "I'm so sorry to hear of the passing of Paul Bearer. Our prayers go out to him and his family. God Bless!!"
Jim Ross: "Just informed via wwe.com Paul Bearer aka Percy Pringle passed away earlier today. I have no other details. RIP old friend."
Shane Helms: "Saddened to hear about the passing of wrestling legend (Paul Bearer). Glad I got to see ya one last time just recently, Paul. Bless your fam... I never heard one bad thing said about Paul. In this biz, that's extremely rare. It says a lot about the man."
Kevin Nash: RIP my friend. You will never be replaced. Not to late to add to the (Hall of Fame).
The Miz: "Just found out Paul Bearer died tonight. He was always so nice when I talked to him. My thoughts n prayers are w/his family."
Dixie Carter: Our condolences go out to the many family, friends, and fans of William Moody. A great performer in our industry."
Eric Bischoff: Condolences to family, friends, and fans of Paul Bearer. Never had the privilege of working with him. Much respect."
Honky Tonk Man: "Saddened to hear of my pal Paul Bearer passing away. I was informed a few moments after he silently went. A great fellow has gone."
Joey Mercury: "Very saddened to hear of Paul Bearer's passing. An extremely gracious and generous man I had the good fortune of knowing."
Tensai: "RIP Paul. A good man and an asset to this business and locker room. Always brought a smile to people's faces. You'll be missed."
Cliff Compton: "Paul Bearer was great. A genuine nice person and a legendary manager. #RIP"
Mickie James: "Very sad to hear that Paul Bearer has passed away tonight... My thoughts, prayers, and heart go out to his family, friends, and loved ones...RIP."
Ted DiBiase (Jr.): "Losing one of our own @WWE feels like losing a family member. Thank you for the memories, paul. God Bless."
Eddie Edwards: "Saddened to hear about Paul Bearer passing away. #RIP #ThankYou"
Todd Keneley: RIP William Moody AKA Paul Bearer/Percy Pringle. A truly great talent and genuine good person. I am honored to have met/worked w/you."
This is the worst build to a mania I have ever seen.Yeah it's really, really bad. What bad blood feuds are there for us to care about? Who are the celebs? Isn't there usually a celeb in a match for the fuck of it? I guess they figure THE ROCK is a big enough of a deal to get all the buys by himself...
The rock was on Leno the other night. Didn't bring the belt, didn't talk about mania, didnt even mention wwe. Just complete burial. Vince was dumb to put the strap on this dude. He has no respect for his past or the people who helped him along the way.
Tell me he isn't shitting on his "family" ( his words)?
The rock was on Leno the other night. Didn't bring the belt, didn't talk about mania, didnt even mention wwe. Just complete burial. Vince was dumb to put the strap on this dude. He has no respect for his past or the people who helped him along the way.
The rock's return has been the worst I've ever seen of any big time wrestling star. He's just so slow and lame now, his character is basically the babyface Rocky Mavia that everyone shat on before we got The Rock except he gets cheers cause of his history. The Rock fanboys eat it up, my cousin who is 2 years older than me damn near cried when I told him Punk carried him in the match and the reason he doesn't show up is cause he can't go anywhere.
I mean no one was expecting some HBK level shit. Bret came back from injuries and not wrestling for a decade, Sting went to a retirement home, etc. But what's The Rock's excuse? He should still be able to go. I mean we could have had this shitty Rock/Cena match again without the belt buckle they're shilling for now. Punk deserves that title, he's more than proven that.
Also what is up with the weak ass card this year? Punk/Taker, Swagger/Del Rio and Hunter/Brock make sense and have a chance of shining, but man does the rest look hastly thrown together. Why wasn't that Barrett/Miz/Jericho IC match not saved for WM? Who the fuck cares about Ryback/Mark Henry? Why is the Shield wasted like that?
Mandark, I figured they gave him the belt to market the PPV and be the face of the WWE for a while to build up hype but he's not even doing that, or can barely make it to a show.
Hollywood, CA AND Stamford, Conn. – February 19, 2013 – Paramount Pictures and WWE (NYSE: WWE) today announced a promotional partnership to support Paramount’s upcoming feature film releases, G.I. JOE: RETALIATION and PAIN & GAIN. The cross-platform partnership includes integration opportunities on WWE programming at the Elimination Chamber pay-per-view event as well as appearances by film star and WWE Champion Dwayne “The Rock®” Johnson on Monday Night Raw® and WrestleMania® 29. In addition to storyline integration on its TV broadcasts, WWE will utilize all of its assets, including live events, digital and social media to promote the films and engage millions of fans each week.
G.I. JOE: RETALIATION is a co-presenting partner of Elimination Chamber with integration during the pay-per-view as well as storyline integration with stars D.J. Cotrona and Adrianne Palicki on Monday Night Raw on USA Network, leading up to the film’s release on March 29.
edit: Himu, weren't you the one saying WWE was patiently building up its young stars of the future and getting all chesty when people said they'd just default back to recognizable old faces and dumb booking decisions?
edit: Himu, weren't you the one saying WWE was patiently building up its young stars of the future and getting all chesty when people said they'd just default back to recognizable old faces and dumb booking decisions?
edit: Himu, weren't you the one saying WWE was patiently building up its young stars of the future and getting all chesty when people said they'd just default back to recognizable old faces and dumb booking decisions?
I never argued this especially with THE ROCK headlining Wrestlemania.
Even I admit they fall back on old stars. I never argued they didn't. However, I did argue that WWE has a lot of current talent and there's potential for good stuff. It's such an utter shame they're not using it for Mania.
I don't know what's going on though. TLC, Elimination Chamber, and Royale Rumble were great PPVs. They had all the potential in the world to build up a great Wrestlemania, but the past month has had me going what the fuck.
And to be fair, they kind of still are pushing their younger/newer talent. Alberto del Rio v Jack Swagger for instance, even Ryback v Marky mark.
Cesaro does not have a feud with Khali and has been extremely well booked for months, the tag team division is just getting started as they're building up their tag teams without Team Hell No to support it, Sin Cara is a failure but your initial point was that Sin Cara being a failure is a slight on Triple H when picking up Mistico is a good business move failure or not. Rock vs Punk has had one tv appearance so far, and yet it still has heat.
Your complaints mostly seem to be,"WHY ISN'T IT GOOD NOW?" When it is clear to pretty much everyone else that they are slowly improving the thing. In the past year we have had Cesaro, The Shield, Ryback, and Big E introduced to the roster and placed in near good mid card and main event roles. WWE is clearly trying to create new talent and superstars.
I'm open-minded about the future, especially because of NXT, the handling of The Shield, the handling of Ryback in recent months, and Cesaro. Their use of talent from the indies and developmentals has been spot on. Talent wise, I don't think there has ever been a point in the company's history where they have had as much pure workers assembled as they do now. 2013 could be a fantastic year if utilized well.
My overall point is that current WWE is not as bad as you think it is, and more than that, it's certainly on an upswing. But no, you have to go on about how terrible it is, week in, week out. Even I, with the acknowledgement that it can be average at times, see the potential and keep watching because I'm entertained. Please exit this thread until you can actually contribute instead of being a nostalgia 90's fellatio tard. The real kicker is the pretense that you are right because wrestling used to be so much better! when it also used to be so much worse.
Watching Raw, Smackdown, Main Event, and NXT every week, I get ample amount of passion, love, and technical prowess, and talent from the WWE shows I watch. I'm thoroughly entertained and have not been this entertained with WWE in ten years.
Anyways, from NXT, I think these guys are the future of WWE and have a lot of charisma. I think NXT is a good idea of what HHH plans for WWE once he takes over and turns it back into a full fledged wrestling company. My opinion at least.
Bo Dallas
D'lo has the best entrance music everNah, that's Kurt Angle
(http://img820.imageshack.us/img820/5246/imageraa.jpg)The FROM part is certainly interesting
My ubersmark friend is not even ordering mania this year the build has been so shit! I could maybe order it myself and pay the ungodly price all alone or go to some stupid restaurant and put up with idiots or just find a stream I guess. :gloomy
There's a rumor going around that hbk will betray hhh at mania and set up for hhh vs hbk retirement final match at mania 30. I'm down for that.
Thank you so much for this thread. My students love WWE but I have no clue what they're talking about. Now I kinda know. :lol
Thank you so much for this thread. My students love WWE but I have no clue what they're talking about. Now I kinda know. :lol
Anything in particular?
Sweat stain? :troll
And yeah that wasn't sweat.
CM Punk's interview got me dying...
Rosenberg: You got anything to say to the smark marks at home?:troll
Punk: Yeah Fuck You! (http://www.the-coli.com/images/smilies/smugdon.png)
Mark Henry: You talking bout me nicca?! :birdman
Rosenberg: :owoah
Punk: Nah not you Mark, the smart marks at home... you're Strong Mark :smugbiden
Mark: I'mma let you live this time Punk but Rosenberg you got one more time... :ufup
Rosenberg: :sadbron
Me Watching At Home: :heh (http://www.the-coli.com/images/smilies/50KS8.png)
where you can order NJPW Invasion Attack
http://www.ustream.tv/njpw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nIGojwed0l8
Calm down, Himuro.
The ads in the intermission of the NJPW show were better than Mania. Tanahashi and Okada playing Vangard Breakers and the Inoki smartphone calculator.
I wish njpw would air their stuff in America.
What is happening? I missed it and on the hulu broadcast they'll edit the crowd.
He feels like a throwback to old 90s hamfisted gimmicks, I kinda liked that. Brodus somehow doesnt work though
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:rofl
Give Fandango Intercontinental title. Fuck The Miz.
Wade Barrett is the Intercontinental Champion.
They wanted to turn him face a while ago. He will likely turn face as he dumps AJ.They really should have during the Vickie run. Dunno why that didn't happen just like I dunno why they didn't turn Swaggie during the Cole/Lawler thing a while back.
They wanted to turn him face a while ago. He will likely turn face as he dumps AJ.They really should have during the Vickie run. Dunno why that didn't happen just like I dunno why they didn't turn Swaggie during the Cole/Lawler thing a while back.
She's hot, so who cares?
Ziggler...turning face? I don't see that happening after the way he got the belt.
You can have two heels feud with each other for a couple of months. Then he goes on to fight face Christian until someone else comes along to drop the title to.
If Ryback turned heel he would have waited for Henry to leave first, that wasnt a heel turn.
Doing something bad to John Cena = Being a heel. WWE LOGIC.
The Rock was the heel, though. HE TOOK THE TITLE AND LEFT THE WWE UNIVERSE.
John Cena saved it and the WWE Universe from collapse.
Even though I dislike him as a wrestler and character he seems to be a really cool dude irl.
Dot Net reader Ross Knoebel met John Cena at a gym in the Roanoke, Va. area on Monday and sent the following notes regarding his experience.
I just saw bunch of guys in my gym including John Cena. He was kind of a jerk to others wanting pictures but snapped this one with me before he started to get seemingly annoyed. Funny, he took his phone and snapped a photo of some average guy during a lift and said, 'Not fun, huh?' He seemed to be walking normal no limp or anything."
They'll fuck it up like they fucked up the ending to Summer Of Punk II.
This is the WWE dude. Don't hype yourself up again.
I really hope that when CM Punk retires he becomes an actor or something. Like Rowdy Roddy Piper with a few roles in decent flick(s)
Something tells me he'll end up like Chris Jericho. A popular figure that's somewhat well known but not on some Dwayne Johnson shit.
Watched a tiny bit of RAW last night and cut it off before the final hour. Felt good, man.I only caught the ending confrontation bit with Punk, and Big Slow's fucking return goddamnit why go away forever Paul White you worthless immobile piece of shit.
Will watch Summerslamfest.
cm punk would never do coke :(
fuck you, big show has been doing great work latelyYeah that period of a few months where he wasn't on tv was pretty great! :P
I thought wrestling was getting great, himuro?It is.
The problem is that they keep relying on the same old guys. They're gunning for Big Show vs Orton title picture. :zzz In a few years, when Rock has a movie contract, Austin is off at his ranch, Cena is injured, Big Show and Undertaker are retired, and Brock Lesnar doesn't give a fuck because he already has enough money, they're going to have a shit load of untested guys who potentially could do great things, but they're going to be in bigggg trouble.
I just can't believe they ended that FIRE Bryan vs new corporation angle by having BIG SHOW INSERTED INTO THE TITLE PICTURE.
I liked Reigns. But I wasn't sold on Reigns until that match. He's the first big man WWE wants to push that I agree deserves a push in a while.
this raw is shit aside from NOA/Punk and Shield match and Ultimate Warrior HOF announcement
Holy shit the Dbry swerve :damn
They pulled the gun on that too soon.
To be fair, they shouldn't have turned him anyways. I don't think they did considering people are now saying the Yes chant at college ball games and shit. They turned him heel at the wrong fucking time.
Never going to happen boys.
Yes, Vince McMahon, HHH are aware and acknowledged it happened.
Was not given the impression it will change WM lineup.
Batista didn't come cheap and they have to get their money out of him so he's staying a face and headlining WM.
Jamie Noble was the agent for the RR match, and they didn't have the guys in the ring putting it together until 6PM last night so he is getting blamed.
Batista isn't a draw like you think he is, Metal.
Batista isn't a draw like you think he is, Metal.
Still a draw.
Also, forgot they boosted Bray up as well.
Disgusting how?
Disgusting how?
actually caring what goes on in childrens enteratinment. brony level
Why's Randy Orton still the champ?
I thought everybody hated him, not even in a heel way, but get off the TV kinda hate cuz he's so boring, like X-pac.
And what makes Daniel Bryan a draw?Have you been watching the fucking product at all? Holy shit.
Have you been watching the fucking product at all? Holy shit.
The yes chant caught on at a college game, I doubt any of them watch or care about wrestling. One kid probably liked the chant on tv and started it off at the game and everyone joined in. It's just a chant. Buyrates and ratings didn't suddenly increase when he was in the running for the championship and featured in the main event. Just sounds like the new internet hero to me :yeshrug
WWE will be dead in 10 years anyway.
WWE proved they'rw buttfuck distinguished mentally-challenged in like 2005, and that's being generous. You're going to keep watching, and you'll always act like it's getting better.
Wrestling in general is never going to be as popular as both boom periods, and the heads won't change anytime soon. It's done, give up now or stop giving that much of a crap and watch anyway.
Never trust the dirt sheets. Wait for legit information.
Never trust the dirt sheets. Wait for legit information.
WWE is in the midst of one of the most eventful weeks in years – and the company’s existing storyline plans through WrestleMania could be scrapped entirely by Friday night.
WWE has called for all-day creative meetings on Thursday and Friday, according to a report by Wade Keller of PWTorch.com. A source says that “nothing is sacred” in terms of long-standing booking plans plans and “everything will be reevaluated.”
The roller coaster ride began on Sunday night when it became apparent to fans that Daniel Bryan would not be part of the Royal Rumble match. The strong negativereaction to Batista winning the Rumble, Daniel Bryan’s continuing popularity growth and the shocking departure of CM Punk from the company are all being cited as reasons for the shakeup.
We’ll have more details on this story later in the week, but it appears that things are going to get even more interesting by the time the week is over.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=99041303&postcount=144
:tocry
Who would see that Jan 13 crowd reaction and then do nothing with it?
PWI is reporting another "big star" is quitting WWE today.
It's lunchtime. Watching Wrestlemania 1. Yeap. I didn't grow up during the Golden Era. Seems stupid to have access to all this and not experience it for the first time. After this I'm going to go in order. What do I watch after WM1? WM2? Is there a good ppv order I should follow?
Paige and Emma are cool beans. I love Emma. Is she over?
Couldn't get anything to play yesterday. :/Yeah, ran like shit all yesterday for me. I'm watching 1998 Royal Rumble right now on my laptop and having no issues, though.
Great show. Future of WWE is bright. Can't wait till some of these current dudes like Big Slow, RBO, and Cena retire.
Nxt has been better than the main roster for like a minute dude. I've been saying to watch nxt if you are an actual wrestling fan for about a year and a half. It has the best feuds, it has the best wrestling, it has the best characters.
And yeah, that move Paige did was amazing. I thought she was going to do the scorpion deathlock or sharpshooter. Then she pulled out that move and it looked actually painful.
The show also took a massive dump on whatever garbage TNA is producing on Thursdays.
I hope they make NXT live on Thursdays just to shit on TNA.
http://www.reddit.com/r/SquaredCircle/comments/1z6j44/hhh_michael_cole_dave_kapoor_lead_writer/
Interesting tidbits. Vince could have just signed for an actual channel and gave cable the finger.
"We're not a wrestling company anymore. We do wrestling, sure, but we're an entertainment company." :snoop
just do ur selfs a favor and bookmark this
https://sites.google.com/site/chrisharrington/mookieghana-prowrestlingstatistics/four_stars_plus_ppv
then go watch shield vs team hell no ryback from tlc 2012
Wow, it's like they took the NXT formula and applied it to Raw. It's heavily action-based and extremely focused tonight.
Also fuck green man christian vs sheamus is fucking boring status.
btw that Chicago crowd sucked.
So no posts about this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UfO78fFgrTk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-EQYSuG1GFY
I didn't watch raw of course so I missed it.
Daniel is going to beat HHH at mania so we're going to have Orton vs Batista vs Bryan at the main event.
:obama
You've brought me back as a viewer, WWE. :obama Thank you for not succumbing to that god awful original main event plan.
Daniel Bryan is going to do Triple H the favor.
Kane, Brad Maddox, Shawn Michaels, X-PAC, they'll all come out there and hit finishers on Bryan so he'll lose.
Triple H wouldn't even do Punk a favor during their feud and in that match Triple H also had the time to beat up The Miz, R Truth, and Kevin Nash. He made the entire thing a vehicle for his COO storyline and failure feud with crackle knees Nash.
WMXXX is a going to be a disaster. Batista vs Orton was just the fecal-matter cherry on top.
So no posts about this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UfO78fFgrTk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-EQYSuG1GFY
I didn't watch raw of course so I missed it.
Daniel is going to beat HHH at mania so we're going to have Orton vs Batista vs Bryan at the main event.
:obama
You've brought me back as a viewer, WWE. :obama Thank you for not succumbing to that god awful original main event plan.
what's so appealing about the hobo guy? just seems like the pepsi generation's john cena.
i like the deliverance dude they keep rolling out in a porch chair though, even if the promo i heard was ripped straight from true detective.
Triple H is the GOAT heel :rejoice
streams? we in the Network era, bruh.
someone link the irc channel plz
This has been a great Mania so far. excellent opening, fantastic opening match, squash match with a great finish and fun battle royal.
I'm pleasantly surprised.
Go Bray Wyatt!!
My jaw fucking dropped for real.
It's a nice twist but I would rather have seen the streak broken in service of it meaning something. Brock Lesnar winning doesn't really do anything for him since he's not a real wrestler at this point anyway.
Was that a botch?
It's a nice twist but I would rather have seen the streak broken in service of it meaning something. Brock Lesnar winning doesn't really do anything for him since he's not a real wrestler at this point anyway.
???
It's a nice twist but I would rather have seen the streak broken in service of it meaning something. Brock Lesnar winning doesn't really do anything for him since he's not a real wrestler at this point anyway.
???
I mean someone who's active and not sort of a guy who shows up occasionally to fill out a contract at this stage.
I'd rather have seen shawn michaels end it or some younger guy so it can elevate him. Brock doesn't need elevating. But whatevs.
Depending on the main event this will go down as one of the best Mania's.
I would love a dusty finish screwing Bryant out of the title but they don't have the balls to do it. ;)
I would love a dusty finish screwing Bryant out of the title but they don't have the balls to do it. ;)
We have been saying Bryan will lose at Mania for months. Bryan winning changes the status quo. Bryan losing is what everyone is expecting.
Apparently HHH and Steph are directing this entire event. This is their first time directing an entire PPV. Vince has little if any to do with this PPV. As we saw with NXT ppvs, HHH knows what the fuck he is doing.
I thought Bryan was injured. :lol
I feel like Wyatt is buried despite the great match cause of the awful finish, though.
prince paul our lord and savior
This will go down as one of the greatest and most memorable Wrestlemania's of all time. Played with all your emotions, made you laugh, made you cry, made you smile, made you cheer, made you sigh. We saw the end for many legends (Hogan Rock & Austin together one last time in one ring, Undertaker, possibly New Age Outlaws) while seeing the beginning of the next generation of WWE (the Shield, Bray Wyatt, Cesaro, Usos, Daniel Bryan). We saw the greatest thing in the history of wrestling end tonight. We saw fantastic wrestlers putting on fantastic wrestling matches that kept us emotionally invested. And most of all, we finally got to see our guy, Daniel Bryan, get his moment. Wrestlemania 30 represented the past, present and future of WWE. It entertained you and toyed with all of your emotions. This pay-per-view is exactly why we are wrestling fans. It reminded us of why we watch wrestling. This is why I love the WWE. There is absolutely nothing like it. (yes I posted this on another article, but I felt it was relevant to this one as well)
Icono, are you excited or NJPW x ROH? :hyperI came soooooo close to going to the NY show, but it would have cost me like $400 and I can't drop that much money on wrestling without knowing how good the card will be in advance. But muh one and only chance to see Tanahashi, Nakamura, Okada, Liger, etc. live... :'( :'(
Icono, are you excited or NJPW x ROH? :hyper
WHY DID THEY MAKE PAIGE LOOK WEAK WHEN SHE CAN GO WITH AJ?!?!
so tickets to this aren't too expensive, is this something where i could walk in cold and at just enjoy it from the physical / spectacle aspect or would i be lost like with Wrestling is / Chikara?
I don't know much about Chikara
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xR08M6EUd0g
:dead
He looked realllll red when leaving the ring on Monday.
i have real mixed feelings about the guy since he got into using his celebrity to spread homophobic rants and other rightwing nutterisms.
still, it always, always, *always* sucks when a guy dies young and leaves a family behind. and he was a really memorable wrestler if nothing else. really knew how to get a crowd going, and his last speech showed that talent never left him.
Punk saved wrestling by leaving.
God bless CM Punk.
Can you guys expound more on Punk saving WWE, and why WM30 was so well received? I'm not a wrestling fan but am interested in this. Is it a case of getting the old guys out and giving new guys shine?
That was no diss to Punk either.
I think he knew shit was fucked up and that the only thing that would "save" the product would be WWEs second biggest star (although apparently he sold more merch than Cena often did) going home and refusing to play. If he'd stayed and played, we would've gotten an okay Punk vs Triple H match, Sheamus vs Bryan (BUT THIS TIME IT'S A REAL MATCH), and Batista versus Orton with Batista winning as a hated champion. I think Sheamus and Bryan have great matches together but I wouldn't want that. Especially when it looked liked Daniel Bryan was going to be Daniel Wyatt for a hot minute.
I miss seeing CM Punk and I think the chanting of his name during GOOD/GREAT matches is the worst fucking thing but I don't hate him. If anything, I respect him more now.
What do you mean by best/hard workers btw? I thought everything is planned out and staged beforehand, and they gauge who is most popular and let that person win to build a name for himself. Or if it's an up-and-comer, he's someone who the execs have decided to back (give him a cool intro, surprise win, etc).
Killing off the Ultimate Warrior shows a real commitment by the WWE to moving away from the older stars, and letting the younger guys take over.\
What do you mean by best/hard workers btw?
Alternately, think of the old, established stars as old music acts who do the same 6-10 songs on every tour and haven't had a new hit in a decade. Whereas Daniel Bryan is Kendrick Lamar.
This is for EricP:
http://www.voicesofwrestling.com/2014/04/10/a-beginners-guide-to-new-japan-pro-wrestling/
Should help you a bit if you go to the NJPW and ROH show.
"Boreton" is one of the main reasons the main event match at WM30 was great. Give credit where credit is due.
And Undertaker losing the streak is a pretty big change. You're acting like there hasn't been a big change, when there already are big changes.
Boreton is capable of good matches, but let's not pretend like 90% of the time whatever he does or says isn't a snoozefest.
Undertaker losing the streak is big, but so was Cena losing clean to Punk, The Miz being a world champion, etc.
Undertaker shows up like once or maybe twice a year, Brock Lesner shows up a little more but still isn't a regular. While it's a big change and one of the very few things that got people talking about wrestling again, and with WM being fantastic I understand why everyone is high on wrestling right now. But give it time is all I say, WWE switched from great to awful too quickly and frequently for me to jump on the bandwagon. Don't be too ahead of yourself, Himu. You've done that before and came down on it as quickly as you were hyped a lot yourself. If the next few months are great, I'll agree with ya.
I think the WWE has been pretty good recently. I mean, 2013 wasn't their best year ever or anything, but there was plenty of great matches between the tag division, Bryan, Cesaro, Orton, Punk, Rollins, the MITB, etc. At least 2014's main event scene should be better now that Bryan's been solidified as a top guy, meaning he'll always get plenty of time to have great matches on PPV (unless they feel the need to do shitty swerve finishes) and Cesaro looks like he's on his way up.This is for EricP:
http://www.voicesofwrestling.com/2014/04/10/a-beginners-guide-to-new-japan-pro-wrestling/
Should help you a bit if you go to the NJPW and ROH show.
This is useful if you want to start following NJPW, but I think if you're only looking to familiarize yourself with their wrestlers, you should just watch Wrestle Kingdom 7 or 8 (it's basically their WrestleMania). WK7 is the better show (and it's one of the best shows of all time imo), whereas WK8 is more current (which was still great, but a few of the undercard matches weren't all that good). It would be a good way to learn each guy's character, signature spots, finishers, etc. while watching a show that has great production and atmosphere. If you don't care about that stuff and just want to see the best matches, then last year's G1 Climax would be perfect (Day 4 was the best).
Bryan as the defending champ has Karate Kind Part 3 all over it. Part one was great with the underdog, Daniel Laruso, overcoming the odds to win at the All Valley Karate Tournament. Part 2 was a nice twist on the theme. Daniel Laruso went to Okinawa to help Mr Miyagi tie up his lose ends; but D-Bry has no Mr Miyagi, so we skip right to Part 3. Daniel Lauruso has to fight against the broken down Sensei John Kreese's quest for revenge. In this instance the part of Kreese is played by HHH. If you recall, Kreese recruited Terry Silver and Karate's Bad Boy Mike Barnes (ie. Orton and Batista)... as you also should recall, Karate Kid Part 3 kind of sucked balls.
I wonder how many Slim Jim commercials are filming in heaven now
Also, Bryan's dad died. :(
Six hours til midget wrasslin!! GET HYPE!! :punch
Evelotion/Shield was great.
DBry/Kane was great.
Cesaro/RVD/Swagger was great
THE END of Cena/Wyatt was fuckery of the highest order.
I actually read a live report saying that some kids in the audience were cheering for the Wyatts so maybe it's working. :whew
They're heels :yeshrug
Heels are supposed to be cowardly and cheat to win.
See, I hate this.
I hate that every heel must be cowardly. It's fucking bullshit.
Is there a legal way to watch them online? I'm interested in seeing them.
Did ANYone watch the njpw/roh events
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Someone make this into a Coli style smiley pls
G1 started tonight
Wish I had time to watch it :gloomy
I'm not surprised that after a great Wrestlemania, shit just devolved into "Will Cena overcome the odds?" bullcrap again.
Ambrose/Rollins was a terrible bait & switch, considering it was the one match that could have saved a subpar show.G1 started tonight
Wish I had time to watch it :gloomy
Make sure you watch Day 1 if you haven't yet. It might even top Dragon Gate's Dead or Alive as the best show of the year. Everything before intermission was good, and everything after was absolutely fantastic. Nakamura/Shibata has to be one of my top 5 matches of the year so far.
I'm not surprised that after a great Wrestlemania, shit just devolved into "Will Cena overcome the odds?" bullcrap again.
It didn't.
They doing this because Daniel Bryan is injured. It was supposed to be Brock v Dbry. But he has a serious neck injury.
Cena is obviously a transitional champ. And is going to get borked the shit out of him.
Also, I honestly don't care about Cena with Ambrose v Rollins. Which is clearly the current focus.
And Cena's matches the past month have also included Reigns. It has been about Reigns as much as it's been about Cena.
I don't think the diva stories suck at all right now.I'm really big on Paige v AJ, especially after Monday.
http://www.tmz.com/2014/07/27/impact-wrestling-cancelled-spike-tv-tna/
And nothing of value was lost. But seriously, sucks for the guys who are now out of a job. Hopefully this means Kurt Angle will retire before he dies in the ring.
The show was pretty goddamn horrible whenever I tuned in to watch it, so I'm not surprised. Did it ever even get good ratings?
The show was pretty goddamn horrible whenever I tuned in to watch it, so I'm not surprised. Did it ever even get good ratings?
Yes. It was actually starting to be a competitive alternative to WWE. But that hasn't been true for a while now, especially since Hulk and Nash came and WCW'd the company.
Sorry for the late appearance guys, my phone has been ringing off the hook.
-I can confirm, that according to sources, TNA is leaving Spike. Not canceled. LEAVING. TMZ has been on a bad streak lately, starting with whiffing on the Donald Sterling punishment.
-There is a new home in place and you're all going to be pretty excited about it. Of course plans can change, but as of now, it's looking like it may be somewhat of a possible lock.
-There was some friction between TNA and Spike about pushing black wrestlers on a hick channels. I can confirm, that according to sources, Centric made a strong push to land Impact.
-This is NOT the end of TNA. This was Dixie's decision and she's been planning all along. That's why they invested in new rings, signed new talent contracts, booked future venues.
That's all I have right now. I'll keep you all updated.
As noted, TNA does have 2 months to secure a new deal with another cable network but it's going to be very hard for them to get the money that Spike was giving them. WWE didn't get an increase on their deal with NBC Universal and WWE Superstars was cancelled from WGN a few years back and WWE Main Event was cancelled from ION this year so if WWE can't get their shows on other networks then that doesn't bode well for TNA.
What a :trash Raw
Best part was the Bork/Cena promo
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We need way more Japanese pro wrestling fans here. :-\
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Broke Dad v Laundry Matt :jawalrus
How do you watch Chikara?
Predictable from a mile. It was obvious Brock would win but I never thought Cena would let him do that much damage.
I've taken to singing 'I always wiiin!' to the trumpets in Cena's theme, so nah, I didn't think this was going to happen! So very decisively too!
But where do they go from here? Who is there to fight Bork?
Also there's been better Raws than this PPV.
honest opinion, is watching NXT by itself ok or should it be watched as an addendum to the major shows? Like are the NXT stories self contained of does stiff spill in and out from the major shows?
ok. i noticed it's on Hulu.honest opinion, is watching NXT by itself ok or should it be watched as an addendum to the major shows? Like are the NXT stories self contained of does stiff spill in and out from the major shows?
NXT is worth it by itself. Best thing WWE has going and a lot better than a lot of other promotions.
this is a really interesting look at the life of an exótico, that is; a gay luchador.
http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2014/09/01/man-without-mask
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Haven't watched in months.
I check out the coli's TSC forum japanese news thread. They tend to post the matches and ppvs. There's rumors that suggest that Jeff Jarrett's Global Force is pretty much a new age National Wrestling Alliance, but international and he's trying to get JR to comment on English commentary for NJPW. They're going to air NJPW's big ppv event in January in America on ppv. good place to start.
Just check out this thread. When there's an event, they post daily motion links.
http://www.thecoli.com/threads/japanese-wrestling-discussion-news.33877/page-23
I check out the coli's TSC forum japanese news thread. They tend to post the matches and ppvs. There's rumors that suggest that Jeff Jarrett's Global Force is pretty much a new age National Wrestling Alliance, but international and he's trying to get JR to comment on English commentary for NJPW. They're going to air NJPW's big ppv event in January in America on ppv. good place to start.
Just check out this thread. When there's an event, they post daily motion links.
http://www.thecoli.com/threads/japanese-wrestling-discussion-news.33877/page-23
jr on new japan commentary? good god
I check out the coli's TSC forum japanese news thread. They tend to post the matches and ppvs. There's rumors that suggest that Jeff Jarrett's Global Force is pretty much a new age National Wrestling Alliance, but international and he's trying to get JR to comment on English commentary for NJPW. They're going to air NJPW's big ppv event in January in America on ppv. good place to start.
Just check out this thread. When there's an event, they post daily motion links.
http://www.thecoli.com/threads/japanese-wrestling-discussion-news.33877/page-23
jr on new japan commentary? good god
he said he also wants to do commentary with CM Punk on NJPW.
So was the Rollins/Ambrose match any good? Would like to know. I like em both and am interested if it was worth watching.
Eric, thought you'd like this. SA wrestling/mma forum has made a best of Japan list from the 2000's and it's amazing.
http://theditch.biz/BestOf2000s_Japan.xls
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FihfGAXEf5g
and here is that aforementioned main event
That was bizarre. Miz had multiple conversations with the cat about co-starring in a buddy cop movie. Started taunting it with a stuffed cat. Then eventually was begging the cat to help him. Then Rowan stole the stuffed cat.
The cat fell asleep multiple times during these segments which only added to the weirdness.
Mike Johnson of PWInsider has gotten information from within WWE that Sting will finally make his debut for the promotion at the annual Survivor Series event this Sunday on November 23rd.
Lyte are you joking the four big ppvs don't mean shit anymore besides WM and RR. Survivor Series and Extreme Rules no longer have their mystique or share their past historicity or legacy in this PG environment. They seriously need to steal the World War III idea from WCW. They need to steal ideas from WCW"s ppv model.
Now let's see how they screw it all up.That really is the main reason everyone tunes in nowadays, isn't it? :lol
On the Thursday edition of Wrestling Observer Radio, it was said by Dave Meltzer, who is the founder, publisher, and editor of the Wrestling Observer Newsletter, that after Brock Lesnar’s contract expires with WWE this spring. Lesnar will likely sign with the UFC and make another run at the UFC heavyweight championship.
i am watching this live because it's free on the network. john cena looks like ronald mcdonald
And Naomi's ass winsthe match!
Yeah. It could have been a lot worse.
Oh, so Fandango was in earlier.
that clothesline!
WHY AM I WATCHING ADAM ROSE WRESTLE HEATH SLATER
i only watch NXT so i have no idea what is going on
ADAM ROSE JUST LEAVING HIS HAND OUT FOR THE TAG FOR LIKE A MINUTE :rofl :rofl :rofl
:mindblown
I don't think it kills rusev's build up because he wasn't pinned.
I don't think it kills rusev's build up because he wasn't pinned.
It made him look weak because he was dominating everyone thrown at him -before this match- and then Ryback destroyed him, with it taking interference for him to pin Ryback.
so what does the spanish commentary sound like if they destroyed the spanish commentary station?
oh, the stipulation was that they'll be fire if they lose? if so, it checks out story-wise
holy shit DOLLLLPH!!! :hyper
So I'm guessing no Sting?
Is Monday Night Wars good or is too pro-WWE? Have I answered my own question?
No. No more Flair in the ring. Hell, Sting should be hanging it up but this is going to be a one match deal, so hopefully HHH can get something out of him. Flair, Sting, Hogan, and all the rest...there's nothing wrong with still having them on TV, but they should be in GM/manager/non-wrestling roles, enhancing younger talent.
I like that Erick Rowan's character is a awkward, spergy manchild now. I bet his favorite video game is Majora's Mask.
Also A_i_A, Flair is still around. He was in NXT (WWE developmental) as his daughter's hypeman. Haven't watched in a few weeks so that may be over now.
I did like the line calling him "an upside-down Sheamus" too. :lol
Ya'll should really really listen to the new Colt Cobana podcast. Punk gets on and spills the beans about his departure. It's a disgusting tale and really makes me question if I should continue supporting this awful company:
tsmradio.com/coltcabana/
site's getting hammered so use this direct link:
http://www.tsmradio.com/colthold2/show226.mp3
Ya'll should really really listen to the new Colt Cobana podcast. Punk gets on and spills the beans about his departure. It's a disgusting tale and really makes me question if I should continue supporting this awful company:
tsmradio.com/coltcabana/
site's getting hammered so use this direct link:
http://www.tsmradio.com/colthold2/show226.mp3
EDIT: Also there are not any better alternatives than the WWE wrestling wise.
EDIT: Also there are not any better alternatives than the WWE wrestling wise.
Wrong. On every level.
Let's not act like most wrestlers wouldn't leave wherever their at for a shot at a decent run in the WWE in a heart beat. I'm not saying they are the best run, or even the best company. What I'm saying is almost anyone and everyone who watches/loves/lives on wrestling would probably go WWE before anything else. The ones who don't usually are those who've been burned before understandably and unsurprisingly considering of what we now know about the medical staff.
Bryan Alvarez did a (free) podcast about internal reactions to the Punk interview: http://www.f4wonline.com/component/content/article/77-figure-four-daily/40095-free-today-figure-four-daily-1128-backstage-wwe-reaction-to-cm-punk-podcast-with-colt-cabana-tons-more
Summary:
Almost everyone in the company loved it, even the people who don't like Punk.
Ryback is mad (obviously)
Vince is mad, but he's not too upset about it.
Triple H on the other hand is furious. "He wants to kill Punk."
Triple H and Stephanie absolutely hate Punk.
Colt Cabana is on the shitlist (it's not like he was ever going to get a shot, anyway)
wasn't colt already on the shit list
EDIT: Also there are not any better alternatives than the WWE wrestling wise. Every wrestler's goal is to be the wwe champion and big dog over there. International fame and a much bigger payout than any other wrestling company. It really is interesting to see how ProWrestling is still reeling from the aftermath of the monday night wars. There's one big dog in town. If a WCW still existed Punk would have probably jumped ship way before he left the business all together.
The price is 999 yen per month. The conversion rate is favorable right now as that price is $8.40 in the U.S., $9.60 Canadian and 5.38 pounds.
There will be a full lineup of live events, basically every major show will air live. There are four shows in December, including late Saturday's tag team tournament finals. There are five shows in January, including Wrestle Kingdom, the 1/5 Korakuen Hall show (Raw after WrestleMania show), and the two Fantastica Mania shows from Korakuen Hall, as well as a 1/30 show.
There will be a lot of archived content including what appear to be documentaries surrounding some of the legendary matches in New Japan history including Antonio Inoki vs. Willem Ruska, Inoki vs. Hulk Hogan, Tiger Mask vs Dynamite Kid, Keiji Muto vs. Nobuhiko Takada, as well as all of the major events as well as the G-1 Climax movie that playerd this year in movie theaters in Japan.
Takaaki Kidani said that New Japan is right now the No. 2 pro wrestling company in the world as a business, but No. 1 as far as wrestling goes, and their goal is to surpass WWE and be No. 1 as far as business.
They are taking a similar risk as WWE, in the sense they are undercutting the price of iPPVs, as the big shows have been 1800 yen, and the Tokyo Dome was last year around 3500 yen, looking to increase volume with the lower price. WWE was not successful in the same strategy. They also also apparently giving up Samurai! TV, as the shows that were formerly on Samurai! TV, like the Korakuen Hall shows, will now by on the service.
If you time your order, you would be able to watch the entire G-1 Climax series for $8.40 instead of $150 from two years ago and $110 this past year. When it comes to the U.S. market, they are undercutting themselves, but the U.S. is not their primary market.
Right now they are showing on the screen the Inoki & Sakaguchi vs. Karl Gotch & Lou Thesz match.
There are hundreds of matches historically, including everything of significance from the past three years, and some matches every year dating back to 1972.
The first year goal is 100,000 subscribers.
Vince McMahon was on the Stone Cold Podcast on Monday night. They did a live stream on the Network. He was asked about the Punk situation but didn't really say much. Apologized for Punk getting termination papers on his wedding day and basically seemed to indicate that the door was still open for Punk to come back, citing Stone Cold himself, Hogan, Warrior, etc. as guys who walked out/had fallings out with, said bad shit about WWE, and came back regardless.
However, Vince claims that he didn't even listen to the podcast.
In my opinion he's made 3 big mistakes in his career
1) Putting HHH in a power position while still letting him be an in ring presence was a bad idea and the outcome was predictable.
2) Getting rid of Macho Man, for whatever reason, was a terrible idea. He was a top tier announcer that only Ross and Bobby the Brain could touch. Him+Vince was legendary shit.
3) Empowering Shawn Michaels wasn't actually a terrible idea, but allowing them to control matchmaking decisions was.
I personally thing CM Punk is a overrated blowhard. I will never understand why people don't realize all he did was steal pre-wwf steve austin's gimmick either.
Bret hart? Boring? He's the best in ring storyteller I've ever seen.
Anyways Vince listened to the podcast. Only to a part of it.
WWE's problems were perfectly encapsulated by that interview.
CM Punk didn't steal Austin's gimmick at all. That's a weird accusation.
And that was the only thing Punk did apparently? You didn't see straight edge society? So is every wrestler who is inspired by the dusty Rhodes underdog storyline, that's bad too? Wrestling recycles story lines all the time.
And Bret Hart had some of the best feuds in WWF history. Bret v Shawn is top tier, Bret v Austin is also top tier. The whole Canada faction. Austin v Bret is my personal favorite of all time match. The double turn is fantastic.
The point is that Punk did more than break the fourth wall, and he had a lot of great story lines that had nothing to do with Reality Era-esque shoot working. Saying all Punk did was rip off Austin makes it hard to take you seriously when engaging you on this topic.
And Bret Hart is the greatest of all time. :bow
I'm not surprised somebody tried to hurt punk, he does come off as an asshole. I don't imagine he had a lot of friends backstage.
As for the rest....of course it's my opinion but
1) HHH being in charge now has not helped move the brand forward. I've never seen so many bland main carders as I do now.
2) Macho was forced out..rumors of him fucking stephanie/doing drugs/fighting with Pat Patterson always pop up. I really think he got buried for no reason and would have been the perfect guy to handle the belt....but of course we all know Hogan/Vince Squashed that.
3) Michaels built the attitude era, arguable the WWE's best era since the mid 80's boom. However he also helped bring it down with that whole "I lost my smile" bullshit because he didn't want to drop the title.
Nash thinks the screwjob was a work, your thoughts?
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Really, this is just a bunch of prima-donna carnies who think they're more than just guys play-fighting. It's funny when you look at how much stupid backstage drama comes from all that.
Nash thinks the screwjob was a work, your thoughts?
We know all about this up and down. Why would Nash think it's a work? :lol :dizzy He had to be joking when he said that.
I actually side with Vince and co. on that one, because Hart was leaving, didn't want to drop the belt to HBK, and acted like a bitter little bitch about it. HBK is a dick too for lying and saying he had nothing to do with it.
Bret v Austin imo is the unofficial launch of the attitude era.
Also the attitude era sucks.
As for Screwjob being a work, who knows. But if it was a work it'd seal Bret as the GOAT if he's been acting this entire time.[/img]
Attitude era had higher ratings because of shock value and mass appeal. Hitting mankind in the head with a chair to the point where his head bleeds out is ridiculous. Wrestling on thumb tacks. The rise of Hardcore Wrestling. Hillbilly shit.
Wrestling was not dying before AE. WWF was dying before AE. What saved the WWF wasn't wrestling but story lines. It can be arguable that the Attitude era ultimately killed wrestling in America. Vince bought and strong armed all the competition because he's a fucking prick. Then WCW died. Now WWE was the only game in town. THAT killed wrestling, and wrestling popularity now is fucking horrible.
Well we agree that Vince McMahon and WWF killed wrestling in general in America. The 70's and 80's had the highest ticket buys of live wrestling more than any era. And that asshole went blew it all up.
Going by footage, and talking about American wrestling only, I'm going to have put 80's as the GOAT era. This includes WWF, NWA, and more.
These days, a wrestler who plays heel, like Seth Rollins will make a tweet about how to get over as a pro wrestler and make a response to the Vince McMahon interview I was talking about. Even in public they have zero worry nor care about protecting the business and air their stuff openly. I bet if you were a kid these days you get to meet Seth Rollins the person, not Seth Rollins the character.
I dunno, I'm at 37:00 and falling asleep here. :zzz When does he start talking about wrasslin?
Yeah I heard it. Just reinforces that CM Punk is a complete douchebag who does not play well with others. I wish him the best of luck saying "it's not about the money" while he tries to sell you everything he can put his name on.
Fuccckkkkk that guy.
Yeah I heard it. Just reinforces that CM Punk is a complete douchebag who does not play well with others. I wish him the best of luck saying "it's not about the money" while he tries to sell you everything he can put his name on.
Fuccckkkkk that guy.
I agree with Meltzer. Pretty much all the top guys have huge egos. It's why they're top guys.
This weeks podcast was shit until the last 30minutes. Colt is insufferable.
We were told most, but certainly not all, of the WWE talent loved some of what he said what he said. Many were not happy about him complaining about his booking when he was booked better than all but a few guys over the past three years. The feeling of guys that while he complained about putting over Rock, Undertaker and Brock Lesnar in 2013, that most of them would have loved to have been in the position to work twice with Rock, and then do Mania against Undertaker and SummerSlam with Lesnar regardless of the outcome. One major name, while seeing Punk’s side on the medical issue and some other issues , felt most of the interview was “sour grapes.”
Many felt he came off badly about complaining that he was booked against HHH at WrestleMania, noting he’d be in one of the top matches and would get ample time to promote it. McMahon in the Austin podcast said that WrestleMania wasn’t about one main event these days, although Punk’s argument to that is that the guys in the one real main event get paid far better than just about anyone else on the show. Several felt he made himself look bad in complaining about having to put over Rock, Undertaker and Lesnar. The “two sides of every story” saying was said by others, but there was also a consensus that what he said about his experience in WWE was the same as many would say, with the difference that he made more money than all but a few, and they admired his balls to say it publicly.
Another person who knows several major WWE talents said, discounting the few that will parrot whatever Punk said, his experience is that there was a feeling that Punk’s comments on Ryback were unprofessional and cheap, and that nobody bought Ryback kicked Punk as hard as he could or intentionally broke his ribs. However, there was the feeling Punk is a genius, particularly for how he handled the situation. There was a lot of hate for Colt Cabana (I really don’t see why) according to one person. Some said they felt Punk was bitter. Almost nobody had any sympathy for his injury situation, noting that every top guy on the roster that works a full schedule has a litany of injuries.
And Meltzer's opinion:
Some people will interpret this as WWE = bad, others as Punk is an egomaniac, some of his facts weren’t correct, and use that to absolve WWE of anything negative. The reality is somewhere in the middle.
But on the egomaniac thing, or Punk has too high an opinion of himself, this is a fact of life that people who say these things about main event talent don’t understand. They are all like that or they wouldn’t be main event talent. If you don’t have the confidence that you are the best, you wouldn’t be main event talent. It amuses me when people read books by top stars or listen to interviews and go, “This guy is full of himself.” If they are a top guy, either they are being honest with you and are, to a degree, full of themselves, or they are putting on fake performance. Privately, there isn’t one of them who doesn’t think they are the best, some are more subtle about it than others. And as time goes on, the ones who are comfortable with it, hold back on the fakeness a lot less. Punk was not the greatest natural athlete. He did not have a look that would have gotten him a push in another era. He had tons of great matches because he was in good enough shape to do so, worked hard enough to do so, and was smart enough to understand how to do so. His promo ability is top tier on the all-time list, which is something that is a combination of hard work, practice, and ego.
If you knock him for thinking he should have had a WrestleMania main event, just remember if he wasn’t thinking that way, he’d be just a guy in prelims who would have never gotten higher than those in charge pegged him to get at first. And if that person had complained, nobody would give a rats ass what he said, true or not. Everyone has different goals. From the outside, the idea that someone believes they succeeded or failed as a pro wrestler based on whether they got a WrestleMania main event sounds like somebody with a major problem. While there is some realness to it, it’s also in other ways a fake honor chosen largely by one guy. It’s a guy who has a great track record historically at building his company, but also has greatly lessened the overall popularity of the industry at the same time, and whose track record at knowing what top talent is in this day and age and being ahead of the curve on it is spotty at best. The reality is this is a company that wanted to fire Punk years ago, that fired Daniel Bryan twice, and would have totally botched this year’s Mania had Punk not quit. They even came close to cutting Cena, whose charisma was obvious in his first week of training school to anyone with an eye for talent. And it was a company determined to put Orton vs. Batista as last year’s Mania main event. Worrying about their judgment to define how you look at your career is ridiculous.
http://www.cracked.com/blog/5-writing-changes-that-would-save-pro-wrestling/
:obama
I wouldn't call Austin a dick but maybe I'm wrong.
http://www.cracked.com/blog/5-writing-changes-that-would-save-pro-wrestling/
:obama
What they mean by pro wrestling they really mean WWE. NJPW, TNA, LUCHA, or anyone else does most of this. WWE is the worst big wrestling fed in the world. Even NXT, owned by WWE, doesn't do this shit.
Being a WWE fan does not a pro wrestling fan make. It annoys me when people make sweeping statements about pro wrestling when it's wholly a WWE problem.
That said, it's on the money.
TNA is definitely over scripted and cheesy. But they don't hold back stars and it doesn't pretend it's anything more than a cheesy wrestling show.
Hogan ruined TNA.
At one point they had a really decent amount of wrestlers and people were getting pushes and hall the sudden Hogan came in and it went back to the same old same old.
It's on Hulu and the network and I don't like giving wwe much money so I iust watch on Hulu.
I suggest NXT if you:
- want traditional wrestling show where storyline and feuds are only there to help fuel matches and rivalries.
- if you don't want to see the same wrestlers every week
- if you want to see more experimental wrestling
- if you want quality storylines that matter and make everything count, including having the belt
Oh, and if you want actual women's wrestling
CM punk signed a multi-fight deal to get his ass kicked in the UFC. Just announced.
The IWGP jr Tag match sounds like it's going to be a hell of a lot of fun
Creating a Chris Benoit character and using it online platform has led to users being banned from online play [in WWE 2K15].
There's been some pushback over the policy, but can you really blame the video game company in this case? By the way, it does not appear as though first-time abusers of the policy are facing a permanent ban, as tweets used in the story show one percent receiving a two-week ban for using the game mapping feature to create Benoit's face.
when will it be on hulu is the question
I'm kinda hoping they save the paint and theatrics of Devitt's entrance for major shows.
I can see WWE hearing the pop and seeing the reaction and being like "WE'RE DOING THAT EVERY NIGHT!"
I'm kinda hoping they save the paint and theatrics of Devitt's entrance for major shows.
I can see WWE hearing the pop and seeing the reaction and being like "WE'RE DOING THAT EVERY NIGHT!"
You know it they will haha.
Charlotte is my GIRL, how did Sasha do? :whoo
Charlotte v Natayla = my match of the year :lawd
Itami should have a Mega Man gimmick where he has to defeat everybody who stole his moves to reclaim them.
Really liked the NXT show. The Itami/Balor tag match and Sasha/Charlotte were good and Zayn/Neville was great. It's a breath of fresh air after how awful Raw has been recently.
Itami should have a Mega Man gimmick where he has to defeat everybody who stole his moves to reclaim them.
Really liked the NXT show. The Itami/Balor tag match and Sasha/Charlotte were good and Zayn/Neville was great. It's a breath of fresh air after how awful Raw has been recently.
don't tell me you've been watching raw but not nxt :tocry
when will it be on hulu is the question
i don't know if the specials make it to hulu unfortunately.
don't tell me you've been watching raw but not nxt :tocry
don't tell me you've been watching raw but not nxt :tocry
I don't watch the weekly NXT shows, but I hardly watch Raw either. I just leave it on in the background and look over whenever an interesting match or storyline is on (so, hardly ever). I have no doubt that NXT is the WWE's best show, tho. Everything is better than Raw & Smackdown at this point.
NXT is really good. It's an hour long and generally packed with wrestling.
im guessing revolution shat all over this ppv? not even shocked
All WWE talent and producers and TV production people are currently all set for WWE TLC tonight in Cleveland.
I'm told tensions are at a fever pitch and have been all day. Many guys on the card tonight want to go out of their way to be the match of the night. The feeling is that a small company rivalry has started between the main roster and the NXT roster. Many agree that is good for all sides involved.
What is usually a lighter atmosphere many hours before doors open is not the case today. I'm told that it is very quiet backstage and that talent is very focused on the show tonight. They know the NXT show is going to be considered "show of the year" among many and they want this TLC show to rival or top it.
Many of the main matches have already been rehearsed. There was a giant black curtain covering the ringside area so nobody outside of the main players know what is going to happen tonight.
NXT is HHH"s baby. It's his pet product of how he envisions WWE when he takes over. :hitler All new WWE main roster wrestlers (Shield, Wyatts, Rose, Dallas;etc) all came up from NXT. They're not being pushed because....well, it's not HHH. :hitler Certain staff members have been purposely trying to sabotage HHH's new crop on Raw to make them look bad, to not impress Vince, and get in Vince's ear, to tell him HHH's not ready to take over. This has been known.
Over the years, Dunn has become a controversial figure among hardcore wrestling fans, in large part because he's generally being considered to be right there with Vince McMahon as far as the bizarre, self-loathing "What we do isn't professional wrestling" stuff goes and is not a fan of historical wrestling references on WWE programming. Perhaps his most vocal critic is Jim Cornette, who worked with Dunn when worked as a color commentator and member of the creative team. Cornette has noted that when William Regal first came to the WWF as "The Real Man's Man" Steven Regal in 1998, Dunn reprimanded him for comparing Regal to legendary British wrestlers Billy Robinson and Dynamite Kid while on commentary. According to Dunn, "nobody would know who they were."
A few years ago, when Jerry Lawler was inducted to the WWE Hall of Fame, he was asked who he wanted to induct him. Lawler immediately chose Lance Russell, the legendary announcer of Memphis Wrestling for decades who was the Howard Cosell to his Mohammed Ali. Russell has known Lawler since was a teenager and Russell brought him on TV to show off his detailed drawings of the previous week's major house show matches. Dunn reportedly freaked out because "nobody knows who he is" and Lawler ended up being inducted by William Shatner. Why William Shatner? He did a forgettably bad angle with Lawler in 1995 on Raw to promote "Tekwar," a USA series he created that quickly bombed. As is always the train of though when Dunn, McMahon, et al make these decisions, they were hoping people who aren't wrestling fans would tune in; because people who don't like wrestling are SO easily swayed by celebrity appearances...right?
im guessing revolution shat all over this ppv? not even shocked
Yeah, and get this-QuoteAll WWE talent and producers and TV production people are currently all set for WWE TLC tonight in Cleveland.
I'm told tensions are at a fever pitch and have been all day. Many guys on the card tonight want to go out of their way to be the match of the night. The feeling is that a small company rivalry has started between the main roster and the NXT roster. Many agree that is good for all sides involved.
What is usually a lighter atmosphere many hours before doors open is not the case today. I'm told that it is very quiet backstage and that talent is very focused on the show tonight. They know the NXT show is going to be considered "show of the year" among many and they want this TLC show to rival or top it.
Many of the main matches have already been rehearsed. There was a giant black curtain covering the ringside area so nobody outside of the main players know what is going to happen tonight.
If that's true, they really failed last night. :lol
I'd probably hate the PPV a lot if I didn't stop paying attention halfway through.
http://www.cagesideseats.com/2011/4/28/2139834/wwe-executive-kevin-dunn-profiling-the-maligned-but-fairly-paid-vp
I'm just waiting to see how they fuck up the Devitt character.
nah, bo dallas was :piss2 tier from the start. his gimmick was was forced and lame and he wasn't interesting to watch in the ring.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wRRsXxE1KVY
:lol
Did you watch him on NXT? His gimmick was natural on there. Maybe it works better with a more intimate crowd? At NXT, his gimmick was anything but forced. He had a winning streak and rubbed it in everyone's face. So the crowd would turn around and say,"NO MORE BO" and he'd be like,"NEED MORE BO?!?!"NXT is a crowd made up of 100% smarks, everything is gonna be over there. I noticed the same thing when going to local wrestling here. The crowd reaction is almost always exactly what the promoter wants, because the crowd knows what's up. I mean just look at Adam Rose. Dude is 110% lame as fuck, but he was super over in NXT.
a heel that thinks he's a babyface is hilarious. Why Vince, why?! :brazilcry
- There has been talk of bringing Adrian Neville up to WWE's main roster with a new gimmick.
Cocky, but well assured face. i like him. it's simple, but there's nothing wrong with simple. he's just pro wrestler as fuck, from his moveset to his promos.
looks like a muscular hobbit. get him and Sheamus into a Lord of the Rings feud
Coming out of the PPV last night, I've been told many in the company are not happy with the end result. While many knew it would be tough to top the NXT show, there were people who thought it could be pulled off.
There have been rumblings that some talent knew they couldn't top NXT so in a silent protest in favor of Triple H, some superstars were described "mailing in" their matches last night. Many are in favor of Triple H and what he has done with the NXT product and feel it is time for Triple H to take the lead on the main roster.
John Cena held a talent meeting about an hour ago which was described to me as forceful yet calm in his approach. Cena stressed that a silent protest is not what the roster needs. Instead, they need to go out there and start stepping it up every night for their point to be proven.
Cocky, but well assured face. i like him. it's simple, but there's nothing wrong with simple. he's just pro wrestler as fuck, from his moveset to his promos.
I thought they turned him heel some months back?
Guys, most of you are probably too young to remember when wrestling was actually wrestling, I feel sorry for you guys :-(
Serious question: How old do you think most of us are here?
I'm like the second youngest here at the age of 24(btw I had VHS tapes of all the old wrestling matches that was given to me by my cousins at the age of 4, The Ultimate Warrior and early Sting were my favorites before the whole Attitude thing came to be). Most people here are married and have children, and range from 32-47. Not sure about the new additions we got off Gaf-hop. But yeah, most people here are adults with their shit together.
Guys, most of you are probably too young to remember when wrestling was actually wrestling, I feel sorry for you guys :-(
Serious question: How old do you think most of us are here?
I'm like the second youngest here at the age of 24(btw I had VHS tapes of all the old wrestling matches that was given to me by my cousins at the age of 4, The Ultimate Warrior and early Sting were my favorites before the whole Attitude thing came to be). Most people here are married and have children, and range from 32-47. Not sure about the new additions we got off Gaf-hop. But yeah, most people here are adults with their shit together.
New Japan announced that BUSHI will be out of action for up to 6 months as he has been diagnosed with an epidural hemorrhage, which is a concussion to the spinal cord, after a mishap on the December 19th show.
WWE is prepping a new gimmick for Adrian Neville that has been described to us as "Mighty Mouse-esque." Of course, that's the old cartoon character who was very small but very strong
Quote from: PWInsiderWWE is prepping a new gimmick for Adrian Neville that has been described to us as "Mighty Mouse-esque." Of course, that's the old cartoon character who was very small but very strong
Just when you think the WWE can't get any worse. :lol
(http://38.media.tumblr.com/b5eb0f52869814394213958d9a2e5460/tumblr_n6egi8bTIl1skeohxo2_250.gif)
Holy shit, he really does look like lore.
But seriously what's the point of a developmental of you give wrestlers completely different characters, and not allow them to use the wrestlers they've built up for two years or so? It's stupid
But seriously what's the point of a developmental of you give wrestlers completely different characters, and not allow them to use the wrestlers they've built up for two years or so? It's stupid
But seriously what's the point of a developmental of you give wrestlers completely different characters, and not allow them to use the wrestlers they've built up for two years or so? It's stupid
There is a logic that says the kind of character that works in the smaller intimate setting like NXT may not work in a larger arena style setting.
In some situations I totally agree.
Vinny thinks he still knows what's best for business.
I'd make the argument Vince never knew what was best first business and was just lucky.
This just in...Kevin Nash won't even put his own son over...
http://www.tmz.com/2014/12/24/kevin-nash-arrested-battery-wwe-wrestler/
For those not familiar with the AMAZING Tanahashi and Okada feud and are going to tune into to wrestle kingdom, here's a fantastic overview
http://youtu.be/nZkV-mBD7tU
Literally just got an email from NJPW World saying that they can no longer offer me the product and cancelling it out from underneath me effective 1/3/2015
I wanna watch shimmer because NXT and TNA are the only promotions I watch now that have women's wrestling. I should get a best of shimmer dvd
It’s not official yet, but it is expected that “Macho Man” Randy Savage will be announced tonight on Raw as the first inductee into the WWE Hall of Fame’s Class of 2015, WWE.com has learned.
One of the most colorful characters and most popular Superstars in WWE history, fans worldwide have been clamoring for Savage’s induction since the hallowed Hall opened its doors. Even WWE Hall of Famer “Stone Cold” Steve Austin broached the topic in his must-see live podcast on WWE Network with Mr. McMahon just weeks ago. The WWE Chairman said that Savage would “definitely” take his place in the Hall of Fame, though he did not indicate when.
A former two-time WWE Champion, Intercontinental Champion and WCW Champion, the late “Macho Man” also took part in what is considered one of the greatest matches in sports-entertainment history when he battled Ricky “The Dragon Steamboat at WrestleMania III.
The 2015 WWE Hall of Fame induction ceremony takes place on Saturday March 28, the night before WrestleMania 31, at San Jose's SAP Center. Tickets for the event go on sale this Saturday at 1 p.m. ET/10 a.m. PT.
Will “Macho Man” Randy Savage take his rightful place in history and be enshrined in the WWE Hall of Fame? Tune into Monday Night Raw, live tonight at 8 p.m. ET on USA Network, to find out — plus, be sure to watch WWE Network throughout the day for updates on this major announcement!
It’s not official yet
WWE.com has learned
Going from 2012 WK - to 2015 WK in PPV order so I can catch up on storylines and see the entire Tanahashi and Okada storyline play out.
QuoteIt’s not official yet, but it is expected that “Macho Man” Randy Savage will be announced tonight on Raw as the first inductee into the WWE Hall of Fame’s Class of 2015, WWE.com has learned.
One of the most colorful characters and most popular Superstars in WWE history, fans worldwide have been clamoring for Savage’s induction since the hallowed Hall opened its doors. Even WWE Hall of Famer “Stone Cold” Steve Austin broached the topic in his must-see live podcast on WWE Network with Mr. McMahon just weeks ago. The WWE Chairman said that Savage would “definitely” take his place in the Hall of Fame, though he did not indicate when.
A former two-time WWE Champion, Intercontinental Champion and WCW Champion, the late “Macho Man” also took part in what is considered one of the greatest matches in sports-entertainment history when he battled Ricky “The Dragon Steamboat at WrestleMania III.
The 2015 WWE Hall of Fame induction ceremony takes place on Saturday March 28, the night before WrestleMania 31, at San Jose's SAP Center. Tickets for the event go on sale this Saturday at 1 p.m. ET/10 a.m. PT.
Will “Macho Man” Randy Savage take his rightful place in history and be enshrined in the WWE Hall of Fame? Tune into Monday Night Raw, live tonight at 8 p.m. ET on USA Network, to find out — plus, be sure to watch WWE Network throughout the day for updates on this major announcement!
...QuoteIt’s not official yetQuoteWWE.com has learned
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Thank you for subjecting yourself to raw for us, lyte :(
The whole "fired" storylines are awful.
You guys may notice that this year I haven't organized the rumble royal roulette. Well, I didn't see a point this year. You guys can totally do it, but honestly I'm not even sure if im watching Mania this year. 2014 was the most consistently awful year of WWE I've ever seen. WCW 1999-2000 status. It actually reminded me why I quit watching wrestling in the early 2000's to begin with.
Also from what I hear, Ambrose is being shat on still? And they're still trying to make Roman talk and give him awful promos despite the fact that during The Shield he was endearing BECAUSE he was a silent giant of few words who just kicked ass?
How can a multi-million public corporation get away with such mediocrity?
Apparently he and bray are feuding. Still. Could be wrong. Taking Ambrose out of the Rollins feud made no sense to me. For weeks it was literally the only good thing about RAW and the only thing looked forward to. Then they replaced him with Cena, and dropped it altogether. They never even finished their feud despite Seth betraying the Shield, you know, the stable they were in for two years.
Absolute bollocks writing.
From what I hear, Rollins is building up a really good heel run and really filling in his niche. Shame I'm not there to see it but I refuse to watch the other stuff surrounding that.
Wait, the Bray and Ambrose STILL isn't done at Rumble? They've been feauding since at least Hell in a Cell. :snoop
On Vince McMahon encouraging talent to reach for the 'brass ring' on the WWE Network: (Laughs) "You know it’s funny, because one of the things that he had mentioned was, he said something about the Millennials not having any ambition, right. It’s funny, because the WWE does this personality test with some of their more successful superstars, where they rank you on all of these scores, like your desire for power, and your personality, and all that kind of stuff. One of the things they ranked was ambition, and it’s funny, because in this personality assessment, I got the lowest score for ambition that the lady had ever seen. So they do it on a percentile basis, so from 0 to 100, I was in the bottom 1 percentile of ambition.
(Laughs) It’s funny because the lady was like, ‘How on earth are you so successful given that you seem to have no ambition?’ I said, ‘Well, that’s where there’s a flaw on the test. I have no ambition for what society says is important as far as things like money, and all that kind of stuff.’ What I am ambitious about is I want to be the best wrestler that I can possibly be, and I think there’s some sort of mistake in generations, as far as what he thinks as far as our generation lacking ambition. Our generation just wants different things than what his generation wants, and I think that’s a societal thing as well. There’s an older generation of people who say, ‘No, you guys should want this, you guys should want this, you guys should want this.’ Whereas our generation, a lot of us say, ‘No, we don’t want that, we want something different, and a lot of the things that you guys wanted, are the reason that the world is messed up. We need to change our value system.’ So that’s it, that’s a very different take on what’s going on."
On WWE's lack of competition: "But people do need to stand up and say, ‘No, this isn’t what I want, I want to do this. This is me, this is how I want to present myself on television. This is how I want to be within WWE, this is how I view professional wrestling, this is what I would like it to be.’ People have to have the courage to come up and say that. But the hard thing is, he was talking about the Attitude Era and how things were different, well things wouldn’t have been that much different if there wasn’t a WCW. Like guys could say, ‘Hey, I don’t want to do this. If you want to fire me fine, because I’m going to go to WCW and make just as much money.’ That doesn’t exist right now. It’s people who are okay with like, ‘Hey, my life without WWE, is as good as my life with the WWE.’ They have to be able to say, ‘Okay, if I’m going to say this is what I want to do, or else I’m taking my ball and going home.’ They have to have some sort of plan for when they take their ball and go home, they have something else to do, which is hard, especially when you have a family, and all that kind of stuff. So yeah, I have very interesting thoughts on that whole podcast. It’s a very interesting look into the mind of Vince McMahon, so it was fascinating."
On Triple H's leadership in WWE and NXT: "I have never actually talked to him about his vision for the future of wrestling, and that is actually something I should talk to him about, because we think a lot alike in a lot of ways. I like what he’s done with NXT, I think NXT is an awesome show. That last special that they did was an awesome product. I think Hunter is very intelligent wrestling wise, like he knows wrestling, he knows what works wrestling wise. I’m not exactly sure what are his ideas, and what aren’t his ideas within the WWE, but I want to say two of the most successful current acts that happened in the last year, like The Shield and the Wyatts, I think those are Triple H ideas, but I’m not exactly sure, as far as their execution and that sort of thing."
Bleacher Report: Wrestling fans rarely agree about anything. But I think, to a fan, everyone believes it's pretty great to have you back. Are you as excited as we are?
Daniel Bryan: I'm so excited (laughs). You know, I don't remember being this excited in a very, very long time. There's nothing I love more than getting in the ring and wrestling. And it's been a long, long eight months being out. I can't wait to come back.
B/R: I remember hearing you were going to be out for a couple of months. And then all of the sudden, a couple of months turned into eight months and even rumors you'd never return at all. It sounds like quite a journey. Can you walk me through how we ended up where we are today, with you returning to SmackDown this Thursday?
Bryan: It actually happened in the summer of 2013. I was in a match with Randy Orton and did a suicide dive out of the ring and missed. My head hit the guardrail, and I felt a shooting pain go down my arm.
But I thought, "Ah, I'm not really worried about it." Later in that match, though, I did a dropkick off the top rope, and when I landed, I literally couldn't feel my arms, and I couldn't get up. It's what's called a stinger, and after that match, they had me go and get MRIs, and I had a bulging disc in my neck.
That's not unusual for wrestlers, but what was happening is that it was closing the space around the nerves in my neck, which was sending shooting pains down my arm.
B/R: That wasn't enough to stop you. I think we all remember your path to glory at WrestleMania 30. Was there something that made you reconsider just working through it?
Bryan: Around May of 2014, after all the WrestleMania stuff, all of the sudden it went from shooting pain down my arm to weakness. When that happens, that's when you need to fix it right away, or it could be permanent.
B/R: You're a professional athlete. What constitutes weakness?
Bryan: Like, it was so weak—Brie and I don't have automatic locks. We actually have to turn the key in the car to open it. And I was so weak I couldn't even unlock the car door.
B/R: Wow.
Bryan: Yeah. And that's when they said, "No, you need to go get surgery now so that this doesn't get any worse. So I went to get the surgery and they were expecting only a six- to eight-week recovery. But the strength just wasn't coming back.
The theory was the nerve had been crushed for so long it might not come back. So we were trying all these different things. There's a nerve that runs from your neck all the way down to the end of your hand. So there was talk of a second surgery on my neck, there was talk of a surgery on my arm, on my elbow.
There was just so much weakness and sometimes this shooting pain. But the doctors really couldn't agree on what to do. I was set to do the elbow surgery because we couldn't think of anything else to do.
B/R: Obviously that didn't happen. What did?
Bryan: I saw a naturopath who works with Carson Palmer, a quarterback for the Arizona Cardinals who was having a horrible shoulder problem. He could barely even pick up a football. Then, all of a sudden, he was able to play.
That's because he saw this guy in Denver who does something called "Muscle Activation Technique." And so I went and saw that guy, and for the first time in months, after just one visit, I had strength in my arm.
B/R: That was all it took?
Bryan: It only lasted about five days. But then I went and saw him a second time, and it's lasted all the way until now. It's been very interesting, very confusing, very frustrating. But the last month has been very hopeful.
I was at this point where I wondered "Man, is this ever going to get better?" I was actually facing the fact that I might not be able to come back to wrestling. And then it's almost like a miracle healing. And that's been pretty exciting to me.
B/R: What do you think it is about professional wrestling that makes guys so susceptible to injury just as they finally reach the pinnacle of success? I think of Paul Orndorff, just as he gets his big chance against Hulk Hogan in 1986. Of Stone Cold Steve Austin as he prepared for his run on top in 1997. For you it was in 2013, right in the middle of your greatest run. What is it about rising to the top that is so fraught with danger?
Bryan: You know what? I've actually never thought about it like that. But that's interesting. And I think it's because you have to work so hard to get to the top.
I trained with Shawn Michaels, and I started when I was 18 down in San Antonio, Texas. And one of the things that Shawn told me was that it's much easier once you actually get to the top than it is to get there. Because you have to work so hard to get the fans to appreciate you. To cheer you or to boo you.
In working that hard, a lot of times that's where the injuries come. When you get to the top, you still have to work hard. But you don't have to constantly prove to the fans that you can be a top star.
B/R: You went to Denver and have been given a second life in your wrestling career. But I assume you can't just waltz back into the ring and be Daniel Bryan. What have you done to prepare your body for being a professional wrestler again?
Bryan: I've been doing a lot of jiu-jitsu and kickboxing. To me, that's what transfers over best to wrestling. Because what we do is a lot of up and down, right? It's a lot of falling, it's a lot of getting up. It's a lot of jumping.
But there is a saying that goes a little something like this: "Nothing prepares you for wrestling like wrestling." If you get on a treadmill and say, "Oh, I can run 20 minutes and 10 miles per hour," that's not the same as going out and doing an eight-minute match.
B/R: Any chance you were working with another certain pro wrestler with similar interests? Or was this down in Phoenix?
Bryan: I was working at the MMA Lab out in Phoenix. And I was doing that before I was even healing. This was kind of my thought process: "Maybe even if my strength doesn't come back, maybe I can still come back and do things that don't require my right arm."
B/R: (Laughs)
Bryan: Right? So I was working on this file of stuff I could do. Because normally, I don't pick people up anyway in my style of wrestling.
To me, wrestling is the ultimate martial art. If you focus on the art part of martial arts, it's a very artistic expression of combat. How can I express myself in this creative fashion where it's still believable, where the fans would still enjoy it, without using my right arm? It's almost like a fun problem to try to explore.
B/R: It's a fun problem you're glad you don't have to solve anymore.
Bryan: Obviously, I'm thrilled I can use my right arm again. (Laughs).
Perhaps a thing of the past?
B/R: Do you think you will mitigate some of the risks now? Will you eliminate some of the daredevil things you do, like the diving headbutt or missile dropkick off the top rope? Or do you think we'll see the same Daniel Bryan?
Bryan: It's hard for me to say. It's all going to depend on how my body feels.
This has happened to me before when I was on the independents. I would go away—I wouldn't get hurt or anything—but I'd go England for six months. And in that time period, I would be changing my style.
So, I've been home for eight months, watching WWE TV and seeing what I need to do to make myself better and make myself different than anyone else.
B/R: A change was coming, regardless of physical limitations?
Bryan: My style was going to change anyway. But it's true, I'll be asking myself, "Do I need to do the top-rope dropkick and all that stuff every night?" (Laughs). Probably not. It's hard, though, because I think that's exciting.
But there are other exciting things I could do that won't put as much pressure on my neck. I've been doing exercises to strengthen my neck, but I won't really know how it's going to feel until I get in there and do it.
B/R: I would imagine you take some comfort in having a regular opponent like Kane for your first match back Thursday on SmackDown. Or is it difficult because you've had so many matches it might be hard to give people something fresh?
Bryan: I'm not worried about that. Especially now. I might worry about that in three or four months. But my brain works in wrestling. That's how my brain thinks. It's frustrating being at home, because that's how I creatively express myself.
I've been coming up with wrestling ideas my entire adult life. And I've been doing that for the last eight months, too—I just haven't been able to do any of them.
So, no. I'm not worried about running out of ideas and doing the same old stuff. Because it's not going to be the same old stuff. I'm not going to be the same old Daniel Bryan. I'm going to be a different Daniel Bryan. A Daniel Bryan better suited to what's going on in the WWE right now to make things more exciting and different.
B/R: Finally, they are building this entire campaign around you. Launching SmackDown's move to Thursday on the strength of your return. How does it feel to come back after all this time and still be right at the top? That has to be a good feeling?
Bryan: It's pretty crazy to me, this whole thing with the "Yes Movement." A lot of it is just luck. Why did the people choose me? As opposed to choosing Cesaro, or choosing Dolph [Ziggler], or any number of the great superstars we have in WWE?
For some reason, they specifically got behind me. And they've been with me for this entire time. Even during this time off.
B/R: They didn't forget about you.
Bryan: They're constantly reminded of me. That's different than when someone like Sheamus is out with an injury. When someone else is out, there's just not any mention of them.
It helps that my wife is with WWE. When Brie comes out, a lot of times she'll get "Yes" chants. And so they are reminded of me. When The Authority comes out, people are reminded about what they did to me. That's helped keeping my name out there.
A lot of that is just luck and our fans being awesome. There are a lot of guys who have been top guys and don't acknowledge the luck factor. (Laughs).
B/R: But sometimes success really is beyond your control?
Bryan: It takes a spark. It takes something that captures the fans' imaginations. And if I knew what that was, everybody would have it. But I don't know what it is! (Laughs).
I can't explain it. If I could, I would tell everybody, everybody would be super popular, and the whole thing would be through the roof. It doesn't happen like that, though. It's every bit as big a mystery to me as it is to people who look at me and wonder, "Why in the world are people supporting this guy? He looks like a goat."
I'm not big. I'm not this. I'm not that. There must be something relatable about me that the fans enjoy. That's one of the things I love about this. They have their own voice. As much as you want to tell them what to think and how to react, you can't.
I main evented WrestleMania 30, not because I was chosen to. It's because the fans would accept nothing else. And there's nowhere else, in entertainment or in sport, where the fans have that kind of voice. To me, that is very powerful.
Source: BleacherReport
Probably should have posted this last month, but Wrestlecrap Gooker Award voting is still up.
http://www.wrestlecrap.com/inductions/gooker-award-voting-what-was-the-worst-of-the-worst-in-2014/
None of those nominations really stands out as the worst of 2014 to me, although I don't know about any of the TNA stuff. I went with the Bellas because that Brie heel turn made absolutely zero sense.
Daniel Bryana and CM Punk are like the only two in the past few years who got mainstream media attention and are very recognizable by people who aren't wrestling fans. I'd argue that both were able to break that barrier very well and WWE not taking good advantage of that is why a new Wrestling boom didn't happen.
Instead we're stuck with Cena and Orton :zzz
I'm surprised AXS is going to show the Invasion Attack match for Ishii vs. Naito. It was really great, but their first match at New Beginning is probably my choice for 2014 MOTY. I guess it wouldn't have the same impact if you hadn't seen Ishii before then, though. The lack of Shibata is pretty surprising as well. They could have put one of his matches with Goto up or his G1 match with Ishii. I think anyone would immediately like his style, especially since they're trying to appeal to the MMA fans that regularly watch the network. Oh well. It's still a great lineup of matches either way.
Haven't caught it yet. I watch the day after it airs because I watch on Hulu.
WWE are going with roman reigns as the next top guy and not Daniel Bryan. It's baffling.
Another example is the invasion angle. They fucked it up.
WWE has had so many opportunities just handed to them that they've fucked up over the years. It's hilarious.
WWE are going with roman reigns as the next top guy and not Daniel Bryan. It's baffling.
No it's not. Reigns is a big guy and is more handsome than Bryan. This is TV...that kind of shit matters. It's just fucking stupid because the audience makes the stars in pro wrestling, not the company. Shoving Reigns down our throats is just going to make for another boring 'top guy' that gets booed, Cena-style. :zzz They shoved Rocky Maivia down everyone's throats in the 90s and that backfired big time. Only by completely reinventing himself and turning heel did it work...and you know they won't do that with Reigns. He doesn't have the talent for that anyway.QuoteAnother example is the invasion angle. They fucked it up.
Yup. The funny thing is that the Invasion angle ended up being their backup plan. The original storyline was going to have it be a brand split and they decided against this...only to end up doing it anyway with RAW and Smackdown later on. :dizzyQuoteWWE has had so many opportunities just handed to them that they've fucked up over the years. It's hilarious.
So did WCW. So did TNA, even. The bigger they get, the more out of touch they become.
What did Rocky say about Koslov?
What did Rocky say about Koslov?
Not much, weirdly. Nothing about their tag team or anything. It seemed to singularly focus on Rocky. I think that this is another interview constrained by the 45 minute interview time unfortunately
Taguchi's mask! :lol
WHAT SAY YE LYTE
http://www.wrestlingforum.com/raw/1549745-so-thats-why-jbl-burying-ascension.html
http://www.wrestlingforum.com/raw/1549921-raw-reunion-should-go-down-one-best-raws-ever.html
The Sting vs. Hogan match would be the biggest match in WCW history. On the surface it was the WCW guy taking out the NWO in one match, but deep down the match would represent the guy Hogan buried finally standing tall and representing WCW in a win. The match would be WCW and, before then NWA, kicking out Hulk Hogan, WWE and all the non-wrestling muscleheaded Rock & Roll wrestling bullsh*t that never should have crossed the Mason/Dixon line in the first place.
Hey guys, can we do something like the royal rumble thread from last year? Should be fun even though anyone who gets roman reigns is the loser.
boy am i glad i didn't watch all of this
The Iron Sheik @the_ironsheik
CROWD SHIT ON THE ROYAL RUMBLE #RoyalRumble2015
Rock getting booed.
Based smark crowd.
I love how they brought out the rock hoping he would kill the boos but the crowd booed anyway.
Man, for a while it was just boring big wrestlers coming in like it's Vince McMahon's wet dream or something :lol People really don't like Reigns, do they?
Am I wrong or did they somehow do their patented "destroy a guy's character where the crowd doesn't care anymore" with Ambrose. Last I heard he was getting big pops for a bit. At least Brock is handled well, I guess.
That was the first time I'd watched any WWE programming in... 6 years? 7? Something like that.
The championship match was awesome. From what the people I watched the show with told me, I really, really like the way they've booked Lesnar. He's a fucking beast, he doesn't show up all that often, and when he does it's a special thing. I'm fine with a mostly inactive champion.
The rumble match itself was mostly shit. The WWE still can't book what should be a slam dunk match, one of a kind that only happens once a year.
It was fine until Daniel Bryan got eliminated. Bryan was obviously the most over face in the company; he should have won the Rumble and gone on to Mania. From what I've been told, fans really haven't taken to Reigns as a top face. Hell, even Wyatt was more over and intriguing; having him win was a plausible outcome. If Bryan isn't going to win, there's NO REASON not to have him stick around until the end; jobbing him out in the middle of the match shits on the most over guy in your company and means you don't get to use him in a top level program anytime soon. If you have him stick around until the last few and then he gets fucked over by somebody, great, you still don't have him win which is what you (for some reason) wanted but NOW HE'S AT LEAST USEFUL. The way they booked it, what is Daniel Bryan going to do next? Might as well have not even had him in the fucking Rumble.
And that's about all the attention I'll bother paying to the WWE for the next god knows how long. It's been 6-7 years since I watched anything, 8-9 since I watched regularly, and they STILL HAVE the same fucking problem- they don't know how to book wrestling, which is kind of a problem when your job is booking wrestling. What a fucking waste.
#cancelwwenetwork is trending #1 worldwide :o
Vince's cumbucket daughter and her husband are the main problems, in addition to their legion of non-wrestling fan sitcom writers booking shit.
WWE lost almost 900 million dollars last year, and now this :hyper
Also HHH and Steph aren't the main problem at all. It's Vince.
I don't think that's fair to Reigns. The guy is someone between a rock and a hard place.
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how was the chikara show, eric?
Can I get a TLDR explanation for why twitter is exploding about cancelling the WWE Network. I also heard there was a lot of booing at a recent show in Philly. Is that just Philly being Philly or something else.
Why won't the WWE do what the fans want and make Daniel Bryan their man? From an outsider perspective...he doesn't seem to fit the body type that I associate with WWE. He's smaller than Cena and the beard probably doesn't help his mainstream marketability.
I noticed he has nearly 2mil followers on twitter whereas Reigns has like 750k :leon
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they thought this was a good idea brehs.
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WWE has announced John Cena vs. Rusev for the Fast Lane pay-per-view.
This match was set up when Rusev interrupted Cena's interview time after the Royal Rumble on Sunday. Yep, it was that simple. Fast Lane takes place on February 22 in Memphis, Tennessee at the FedEx Forum.
WWE announced that Triple H has challenged Sting to a face-to-face confrontation at the Fast Lane pay-per-view.
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Perfect! Maybe needs to be a little smaller?
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Hmm...about the same size. OK, will use Rocky for 'what' and Redd can stay as 'foxx'.
Network broke 1 million subs.Those numbers are most likely as of 12/31. :P
Twitter hashtags work again.spoiler (click to show/hide):fbm[close]
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Perfect! Maybe needs to be a little smaller?
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Hmm...about the same size. OK, will use Rocky for 'what' and Redd can stay as 'foxx'.
...using a wrestler other than Stone Cold for a what smiley
:foxx
so according to meltzer they're getting rid of wrestlemania numbers and this is the first one to do so. next year's wrestlemania, instead of a play button, is going to have a star on it. fuck tradition and history and longevity apparently :rofl
Meltzer says verbatim,"Wrestlemania will no longer feature numbers because Vince thinks it makes the event sound too old."
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god someone get vince senile ass out the paint.
Unless he turns heel and acts like how he did in that interview. Natural heels tend to be dicks.
If it were up to me, Ambrose would be the new face of WWE.
But personally, there should never be "THE guy". You should have 5-10 wrestlers who are all interchangeable in the main event besides the two top guys.
If I were to choose the two to lead the WWE into the future, it'd be Ambrose and Rollins.
But even then, you had Ultimate Warrior, Savage, Jake the Snake, Rick Rude, Mr. Perfect;etc.
In the Attitude Era, you had Stone Cold, HHH, The Rock, HBK, Jericho, Kurt Angle;etc and all were viable in the main event.
Could a lot of this be due to WWE now being a public company?
But even then, you had Ultimate Warrior, Savage, Jake the Snake, Rick Rude, Andre The Giant, Mr. Perfect;etc.
In the Attitude Era, you had Stone Cold, HHH, The Rock, HBK, Jericho, Kurt Angle;etc and all were viable in the main event.
It wasn't until Cena was on top that suddenly it became THE guy.
If it were up to me, Ambrose would be the new face of WWE.God I wish. Ambrose is easily my favorite dude on Raw right now.
But personally, there should never be "THE guy". You should have 5-10 wrestlers who are all interchangeable in the main event besides the two top guys.
If I were to choose the two to lead the WWE into the future, it'd be Ambrose and Rollins.
We need that look of Vince's when Austin pours cement into his car as an emoticon.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gLjQiYBPQI
The one with Vince's eyes about to pop out of their sockets is the best one. :roflWe need that look of Vince's when Austin pours cement into his car as an emoticon.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gLjQiYBPQI
What time in the video? There's a few good ones in there.
If it were up to me, Ambrose would be the new face of WWE.God I wish. Ambrose is easily my favorite dude on Raw right now.
But personally, there should never be "THE guy". You should have 5-10 wrestlers who are all interchangeable in the main event besides the two top guys.
If I were to choose the two to lead the WWE into the future, it'd be Ambrose and Rollins.
If only WWE went with my fantasy booking of Ambrose winning the Rumble. Then he could just go extra crazy talking about how he's not scared of Brock and maybe even change their match to be No DQ, Falls Count Anywhere. Then he could just go ham and hit Brock with a car or something to win.
Once he wins the belt, he can restart his feud with Rollins since he knows Seth will have to fight him if he wants to cash in MITB. In the meantime he can just treat the belt like shit and not care about it. Drag it on the ground, toss it to the ref behind his back, maybe even have a video of him trying to pawn it the night after Wrestlemania...whatever it takes to get heat with the Authority and build up how much they want Rollins to take it from him.
But instead we got Reigns. :what
EDIT: I should clarify I don't hate Reigns as a wrestler. I just don't think he's ready for the big time yet, not by himself. He could definitely be a top dude in a year or two. He just needs time to develop and learn how to operate as a singles dude.
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:gladbron
I checked it this morning and I HAVE IT. YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS :hyper
ERIC, THEY HAVE A KUNG FU MOVIE BLOCK ON THURSDAYS. They're showing Opium and the Kung Fu Master right now. Come Drink With Me (:hyper) comes on next, and then Golden Swallow. :lawd
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:gladbron
I checked it this morning and I HAVE IT. YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS :hyper
ERIC, THEY HAVE A KUNG FU MOVIE BLOCK ON THURSDAYS. They're showing Opium and the Kung Fu Master right now. Come Drink With Me (:hyper) comes on next, and then Golden Swallow. :lawd
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:gladbron
I checked it this morning and I HAVE IT. YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS :hyper
ERIC, THEY HAVE A KUNG FU MOVIE BLOCK ON THURSDAYS. They're showing Opium and the Kung Fu Master right now. Come Drink With Me (:hyper) comes on next, and then Golden Swallow. :lawd
So what you're saying is if WWE didn't fuck up, we'd be having Ambrose, Rollins, Punk, Bryan and Ziggler in the main event scene? Man, that would have been great.
Devitt is gonna be a superstar.
Kenta will not.
Don't forget Yoshi Tatsu
Tajiri was over. But only when he was a comedy character.
Anyone that has a story where they cut off Val Venis' dick is okay by me.
so are we including lord tensai as a japanese wrestler
so are we including lord tensai as a japanese wrestler
Beyond terrible, but it's promoted as a fantastic storyline on the wwe network. I swear it's in at least 1/3 of the Monday Night War episodes lol
so are we including lord tensai as a japanese wrestler
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The WWE currently acknowledges that what you're watching isn't real and is a scripted story event. The other week you [HHH] publicly consoled - on live air - a child despite being a heel character; Steve's podcast - which is going to be featured on WWE Network - openly talks at length about pro wrestling within the context that the entire thing is just one big storyline; the WWE Network features shows like Legends of Wrestling or WWE 24/7 that fully embrace the fact that pro wrestling is a work. Currently in the WWE storyline, Seth Rollins is being backed by the authority on the basis of being hand chosen. In real life, Roman Reigns is actually Seth Rollins: a hand chosen man picked to lead the WWE into the future. Given the fan response to Seth Rollins, and the inerrant fact that WWE chooses to admit time and again that wrestling is indeed a work, what were WWE expecting with Roman Reigns in terms of fan reception when all of WWE's current fan favorites were thrown out of the Royal Rumble without a hint of bravado or showmanship in order to protect Reigns? WWE fully acknowledges that we're watching is fake, but is suddenly surprised when they insult the audience's intelligence. WWE continues to act like the internet wrestling community is a minority, when most if not all modern wrestling fans consume or discuss wrestling on the internet, yet WWE continues to make storylines as if we're not all in on the joke. The dissonance is odd.
Help me finish me phrase my question for HHH through the Steve Austin show. I'm trying to bring up the fact that WWE always treats their things like it's fake, but then are suddenly surprised when the audience revolts against their choices. It's like, you can't act like it's not fake, and then at the same time insult your audience's intelligence, you know? How should I end this?QuoteThe WWE currently acknowledges that what you're watching isn't real and is a scripted story event. The other week you [HHH] publicly consoled - on live air - a child despite being a heel character; Steve's podcast - which is going to be featured on WWE Network - openly talks at length about pro wrestling within the context that the entire thing is just one big storyline; the WWE Network features shows like Legends of Wrestling or WWE 24/7 that fully embrace the fact that pro wrestling is a work. Currently in the WWE storyline, Seth Rollins is being backed by the authority on the basis of being hand chosen. In real life, Roman Reigns is actually Seth Rollins: a hand chosen man picked to lead the WWE into the future. Given the fan response to Seth Rollins, and the inerrant fact that WWE chooses to admit time and again that wrestling is indeed a work, what were WWE expecting with Roman Reigns in terms of fan reception when all of WWE's current fan favorites were thrown out of the Royal Rumble without a hint of bravado or showmanship in order to protect Reigns? WWE fully acknowledges that we're watching is fake, but is suddenly surprised when they insult the audience's intelligence. WWE continues to act like the internet wrestling community is a minority, when most if not all modern wrestling fans consume or discuss wrestling on the internet, yet WWE continues to make storylines as if we're not all in on the joke. The dissonance is odd.
Help me finish me phrase my question for HHH through the Steve Austin show. I'm trying to bring up the fact that WWE always treats their things like it's fake, but then are suddenly surprised when the audience revolts against their choices. It's like, you can't act like it's not fake, and then at the same time insult your audience's intelligence, you know? How should I end this?QuoteThe WWE currently acknowledges that what you're watching isn't real and is a scripted story event. The other week you [HHH] publicly consoled - on live air - a child despite being a heel character; Steve's podcast - which is going to be featured on WWE Network - openly talks at length about pro wrestling within the context that the entire thing is just one big storyline; the WWE Network features shows like Legends of Wrestling or WWE 24/7 that fully embrace the fact that pro wrestling is a work. Currently in the WWE storyline, Seth Rollins is being backed by the authority on the basis of being hand chosen. In real life, Roman Reigns is actually Seth Rollins: a hand chosen man picked to lead the WWE into the future. Given the fan response to Seth Rollins, and the inerrant fact that WWE chooses to admit time and again that wrestling is indeed a work, what were WWE expecting with Roman Reigns in terms of fan reception when all of WWE's current fan favorites were thrown out of the Royal Rumble without a hint of bravado or showmanship in order to protect Reigns? WWE fully acknowledges that we're watching is fake, but is suddenly surprised when they insult the audience's intelligence. WWE continues to act like the internet wrestling community is a minority, when most if not all modern wrestling fans consume or discuss wrestling on the internet, yet WWE continues to make storylines as if we're not all in on the joke. The dissonance is odd.
You already know the answer to this. It'll be "We're not in the pro wrestling business, we're in the entertainment business. Seeing a reaction like this shows that we have an engaged fanbase" or some such thing.
January 30, 2015
I just want to touch on the Royal Rumble finish and the fan backlash to the Roman Reigns win a little bit here. I was just listening to Talk is Jericho (PodcastOne.com) and Chris had Dave Meltzer on to discuss the Royal Rumble. Dave brought up a point just quickly off the cuff about why the crowd might have turned on Roman that hadn't been mentioned before and it really struck a chord with me. I wanted to highlight that point here. I'm not going to make the point at the start; I want to tell the story that sets up the point to see if you can come to the conclusion as I make it.
For over 15 years now WWE has been doing the Evil Owner/Heel Authority figure story line. The main focus of WWE programming for almost 2 decades has been that the people in charge of WWE are selfish egomaniac heels that don't give a damn about what fans think; they constantly throw obstacles in front of the top baby faces to hold them down and gloat when they succeed and really rub the fan's nosed in it whenever possible. Vince did it to Austin, Laurenitis did it to Cena, and The Authority has been doing it to Daniel Bryan. Think about this for a minute. This has been the primary focus for almost 20 years. If you are a WWE fan under the age of 30 (started watching at 6-10 yrs old) this is all you know. Your entire experience as a WWE fan has been: the people running WWE are bad evil people who don't care what you think.
Further more over the last 18 months The Authority has specifically talked about "The Face of the Company" and how they are going to control who that is. From Summer Slam 2013 until Bryan was stripped of the Title in May last year, it was all about how Daniel Bryan was the best, the fans loved him, but the evil owners of WWE wanted to keep him down and keep him from being the top guy. This angle included the fans; they had the "Yes movement", they did the "Occupy RAW" show where "fans" got to stand up against the evil owners to give their guy a chance.
WWE blended real life and storyline into the show in an attempt to blur the lines of reality, which really fired fans up. Fans supported their guy and turned on anyone associated with The Authority. Fans loved Daniel Bryan and wanted him to succeed and many of them knew that much of what The Authority was saying about him were the legitimately held beliefs of the company.
So now we come to the Royal Rumble 2015 and it's time to reap what you sow. Nearly 20 years of WWE Bosses are evil and don't care what you think, then almost 2 years of WWE owners pick the face of the company not you fans, and now the guy they have win the Rumble and hope will be cheered, is someone most fans know is the chosen face of the company, handpicked by those very same Evil Owners. What do you expect to happen? It's almost a Pavlovian response at this point, isn't it?
You could argue that the fans turning on Roman Reigns at the Royal Rumble was actually a credit to WWE booking and storytelling. The fans reacted exactly as they have been conditioned to. Fans have been taught that WWE corporate is the enemy, and we should not accept anything that they are in favour of, and that's exactly what they did. The lines have been blurred, so it doesn't matter that Roman isn't the handpicked guy in Storyline; smart fans, Philly fans, and certainly WrestleMania fans are going to know that he's the handpicked guy just the same, and as a result he's going to face their wrath.
Lance Storm
Got in on this WWE network free month thing. Other than NXT, what should I check out aside from nostalgia trips?
Too bad, he's a good wrestler and was just getting big.
Too bad, he's a good wrestler and was just getting big.
ah you saw the photos?
Too bad, he's a good wrestler and was just getting big.
ah you saw the photos?
:lol
Nah. Saw the girl though :lawd
Are any of those pseudo documentaries about wrestlers on the WWE network? I wanna watch the Punk one and the Austin one.Yeah there's a bunch of them on the network. Punk's, Austin's, HHH's, two Batista ones, and a bunch more.
i am watching this. i don't know why
I thought Bryan vs Reigns was great and by far the best singles match of Roman's career (which isn't saying much). The finish wasn't very good and the wrong guy won imo, but the match itself was better than I expected. Bryan is just that awesome.
I guess the idea was to give Roman the best match possible to try and get some momentum behind him before he wins the title at WrestleMania. He's still going to get booed against Brock, though.
I can't believe people used to pay $50 for these or whatever
If not...what are they going to do with him?Sheamus and Dolph Ziggler still need a match for WM. :heh
I thought Bryan vs Reigns was great and by far the best singles match of Roman's career (which isn't saying much). The finish wasn't very good and the wrong guy won imo, but the match itself was better than I expected. Bryan is just that awesome.
I guess the idea was to give Roman the best match possible to try and get some momentum behind him before he wins the title at WrestleMania. He's still going to get booed against Brock, though.
it really feels like the writing staff has just given up. either that or VKM has just destroyed their will.
If not...what are they going to do with him?Sheamus and Dolph Ziggler still need a match for WM. :heh
Wrestlemania looks excit :zzz
Just took out a small loan (feels like it) to pay for a VIP package for Wrestlemania. Jesus that was fucking expensive to get since it sold out so quickly. Gonna go to the Hall of Fame and RAW events too!How'd you get a package? When I tried to get one all the sites said they were sold out so I had to buy everything piecemeal.
I should make a sign for the bore since I've got a ringside chair, which I get to keep.
Mania is two weeks away.Me but only because I'm going. Gonna try and get tickets to the NXT show on Friday as well.
...
Does anyone even care?
i'm having friends over to watch it but uh no. we will get drunk and laugh when it's badYep, even bad PPVs are fun with pizza n booze n bros! :rock
Cena can have the US title on Raw
So you don't think Brock is gonna re-sign? I figure if they can get him to sign another contract they'll just keep the belt on him for another 6mos-a year
More like the wet dog. :gloomy
Brock resigning is the only thing that made this year's Mania somewhat interesting imo. Now they can book his match in a bunch of different ways. I think the best thing they could do, though, is to have Roman win by turning heel and aligning with Heyman. That way they can also get a face run out of Brock. It makes perfect sense since everybody already wants to cheer Brock and boo Roman.
The Rock is here :zzz
What was the point of that? Triple H beats Sting so it can lead into a long ass dumb moment featuring The Rock and Ronda Rousey? Meh.
Ronda > Sting confirmed.
They're probably drawing this out in attempt to get it darker outside for the Undertaker/Wyatt entrances.
This match sucks.
I mean, last years match sucked but we did see the streak end. This? Soooooo boring.
No point to this match. Wyatt is forever buried now.
Brock dominates but Reigns wins. I see it happening.
I want brock to win then Rollins cashes in. I do see Reigns winning though.
Did anything happen with that Axlmania thing? Guess not.
However I did get to start a "Please Retire" chant for Big Show that caught on quickly, so that was funny.
Wait, what? I knew he was injury prone but I didn't know it was that bad.
Steph and Trips egos are probably too big to not want to be the focal point of the show.
Haven't they been doing some variant of the 'evil owner' angle for nearly 20 years now?
Haven't they been doing some variant of the 'evil owner' angle for nearly 20 years now?
There's still too much garbage, but it does have more bright spots, yeah.
Last night I think I liked everything except the Authority stuff. That faction needs to end already. Harper and Rowen need to rejoin Wyatt, too.
Cena is in the twilight of his career and they are pretty obviously setting him up for one final run with this current storyline.
Welcome to Wrestling Inc's coverage of Triple H's media conference to promote tomorrow's NXT Takeover: Unstoppable.
* Triple H apologizes for his voice and says "with a nose like mine, changing allergy zones three times" is a bad thing.
* HHH puts over Charlotte and Sasha Banks headlining an NXT live event last week. He wants them to change the perception of what women do in the industry.
* The NXT tours will continue. He's looking at festival touring and some international shows as well. He wants NXT to be a full brand by next year.
* HHH thanked ESPN and Jeremy Schapp. He said he hopes that they can work together more, or produce more of those for the Network.
* Sami Zayn has been cleared, an will compete.
* HHH thinks Becky/Sasha could steal the show.
* Matt Bloom has been promoted to permanent head coach at NXT. Sara Del Rey is assistant head coach now.
* Sara Del Rey is still working as a road agent as well.
* He already considers NXT an additional brand. He wants to find what's best suited for NXT. Things that work on the main roster may not work in NXT.
* Triple H wants NXT on the road 3 days a week by 2016. He wants NXT to have a two-tour function eventually. He doesn't want to lose the homegrown fans in Flordia, either.
* Triple H doesn't care if someone has indy experience or not, but having experience helps.
* He doesn't know if NXT will become a cable TV show. He's happy where they are on the WWE Network. Triple H sees NXT as a selling point for the Network, too.
* Hideo Itami will be represented, but will not be wrestling tomorrow night.
* While NXT is a third brand, it's still there to get people ready for the main roster, Triple H says. He says the best problem he can have is Vince calling him in the middle of a hot angle and asking for that star.
* Triple H says that there are several talents in NXT ready for the main roster, but there aren't spots for them, or else they'd be there.
* HHH says WWE developmental is a young man's game. He says it takes a while for them to get talent up to speed.
* Triple H says he likes Ring of Honor and Dragon Gate. He says he's not trying to make NXT a direct competition to them. He wants to make the best roster that he can. He thinks if NXT's business grows, so will RoH's. He said he'd love to help support ROH and grow.
* Triple H says there are talents that said they turned down NXT deals for ROH. He says they haven't spoken to those talents on any level.
* Triple H says he wanted to make NXT an individual brand from day 1, but didn't tell anyone that.
* Triple H thinks Samoa Joe is a phenomenal talent. Says he was at the performance center a month or two ago. He doesn't know if they'll do business. He said they only spoke for about five minutes, and it was mostly pleasantries.
* He says there are plenty of talents that won't make it on the main roster, and gimmicks that won't work on the main roster.
* Vince McMahon doesn't see all of NXT. Triple H shows him bits and pieces.
* HHH doesn't see Cena going anywhere. He thinks it's great that Cena is confident enough to give younger stars a time to shine. Time pushes people to move to different roles.
* Someone asks about Emma. Triple H says it's more than possible for her to get back in the title picture.
* Triple H says Vince McMahon was blown away by the NXT show WrestleMania weekend. Triple H didn't know Vince would be there until last minute. McMahon messaged him and said he'd be there. Triple H said that several WWE executives came and were impressed, and wanted to do more with it.
* Triple H puts over the progress of Sami Zayn working without a mask and Baron Corbin.
* There aren't plans of an all-female NXT show or special, but it could happen.
* Nothing in NXT was by accident. He had a vision for this.
* The majority of the fans dictate what they do.
Don't forget, we'll have live coverage of tomorrow night's NXT Takeover: Unstoppable here on Wrestling Inc.
So I won't get to laugh at Billy Corgan some more :'(
TNA issued the following statement to Prowrestling.net on Thursday.
It has come to our attention that several internet news sources have falsely attributed statements to TNA, its executives and broadcasting partner. These false statements constitute defamation and if necessary we will seek all legal remedies available to us.
Powell's POV: At least I assume this statement is in response to the cancellation report that Dave Meltzer reported in the Wrestling Observer Newsletter. After all, TNA doesn't mention anything about the cancellation report specifically in this statement. Is this TNA's way of disputing the story without actually saying which story they are disputing?
Wonder if WWE is going to start funding ROH under the door like they wanted to do with ECW.
* Triple H says he likes Ring of Honor and Dragon Gate. He says he's not trying to make NXT a direct competition to them. He wants to make the best roster that he can. He thinks if NXT's business grows, so will RoH's. He said he'd love to help support ROH and grow.
Quote* Triple H says he likes Ring of Honor and Dragon Gate. He says he's not trying to make NXT a direct competition to them. He wants to make the best roster that he can. He thinks if NXT's business grows, so will RoH's. He said he'd love to help support ROH and grow.
I prefer it despite its flaws to the WWE look. The WWE look feels so fake to me. I prefer NXT and Lucha look too.
shrug. Bought tickets.
So jelly. Would have killed (lol) to see the Angle/Benoit match live.Well I also had to sit through Steiner HHH live. :lol
Been to two Wrestlemanias and Survivor Series. Great times.
Oh boy Cena wins. :zzz
Haven't watched BG yet because EVO is on, but I thought that Kevin Owens vs John Cena feud is fantastic in terms of promos, but the matches...they're not my thing. I don't get much storytelling from them. They're mostly spot fests and calling cool moves. Puro and NXT has spoiled me.
In the storm I release control,God and his Universe will sail me where he wants me to be,one love. HH
— Hulk Hogan (@HulkHogan) July 24, 2015
MediaTakeout is saying the snippet of the audio they heard has more than 50 n-words. And not the one ending with a.
"I don’t know if Brooke was f*cking the black guy’s son," Hulk raved, the sources add.
"I mean, I don’t have double standards. I mean, I am a racist, to a point, f*cking n*ggers. But then when it comes to nice people and sh*t, and whatever."
Then, in a tirade to rival the racism embarrassments suffered by Mel Gibson and "Dog The Bounty Hunter," Hulk unloaded even more hatred!
According to sources, he said: "I mean, I’d rather if she was going to f*ck some n*gger, I’d rather have her marry an 8-foot-tall n*gger worth a hundred million dollars! Like a basketball player!
"I guess we’re all a little racist. Fucking n*gger."
Andre the Giant called Bad News Brown/Allen the same racist name and almost paid for it – Well sadly it appears that Andre liked to drop the N-bomb back in his day. It also appears that some of those wrestlers didn’t like it and weren’t intimidated by the Giant’s size. Bad News Brown was one of them and on a tour of Japan, he had about enough of the Giant’s “humor.”
Bad News has told this story in interviews and as the story goes, Andre the comedian was in the back of the bus during a Japan tour telling racist jokes. Andre was loud enough, likely intentional, for Brown to hear it. Brown had enough and ordered the bus drive to stop the bus. Bad News got up and told Andre to step outside. As the story goes Andre refused to step outside knowing how much of a bad dude Bad News was. Hulk Hogan and a few others apparently settled things down and Andre apologized to Brown the next day.
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I AM A REAL AMERICAN
FIGHT FOR THE RIGHTS OF WHITE MAN
I AM A REAL AMERICAN
FIGHT WHATS WHITE
FIGHT FOR YOUR LIFE
It's best to play it safe and rep the rock
Sheik doesn't write his own Tweets.
http://mattenglish.kinja.com/the-iron-sheiks-online-renaissance-and-why-we-should-i-1578646116
Sorry to break kayfabe
ban archie. he ruins dreams
Shiek was right about Brian Blair being an asshole too, you know.
:ohhh
Does he got an asterisk in the Wrassling Hall of Fame? :money
So did they effectively remove a ton of old wrestling media from their history too?
Dude was basically everywhere up through the mid 90's, no?
Erasing him from history is a bit much considering WWE fired Del Rio for slapping someone because of their racist remarks and completely disrespecting him. Or the fact that all of the male black wrestlers are in tag teams so they can't be in the singles division. Or the fact there's never been a black WWE champion. Or Cryme Time, or Mexicools, or the entire HHH vs Booker T storyline. WWE subsists on racism, and hasn't fired a fucker like Michael Hayes, but can delete every single video from their archives of Hogan and fire him like they actually give a shit.
To say nothing of that time that Kane raped a corpse.
Erasing him from history is a bit much considering WWE fired Del Rio for slapping someone because of their racist remarks and completely disrespecting him. Or the fact that all of the male black wrestlers are in tag teams so they can't be in the singles division. Or the fact there's never been a black WWE champion. Or Cryme Time, or Mexicools, or the entire HHH vs Booker T storyline. WWE subsists on racism, and hasn't fired a fucker like Michael Hayes, but can delete every single video from their archives of Hogan and fire him like they actually give a shit.
Gets a little more uneasy if you look harder at some of the sexism too. Or fucked up ass story lines like when HHH got married and Stephanies high/drunk in the car. :holeup
To say nothing of that time that Kane raped a corpse.
I applaud the WWE for scrubbing a racist completely from it's history
http://www.wwe.com/superstars/donald-trump (http://www.wwe.com/superstars/donald-trump)
To say nothing of that time that Kane raped a corpse.
In talking about what the network wanted for the Season Four finale of “Hogan Knows Best”, Radar quotes Hogan as saying to Heather Clem on the tape: “VH1 wanted me to do a big thing and go back to the house I grew up in. So we knock on the door and a big f*g lives there now!” He continues, “This half-gay was enamored with Linda,” speaking about his now ex-wife.
bork pls :maf
undertaker turned from evil undead dude with magic powers to old man who hits people in the balls :maf
Del Rio is back
Del Rio beat Cena for the U.S. title
His manager is now...Zeb Coultur?! :lol
this sounds absolutely thrilling ::)
Sucks that Rollins injured...Rollins...but this also means that the WWE is forced to change shit up. Roman is zzzzz but maybe we'll get a new *good* top heel in place. I just don't know who it should be. Watch them just turn Ambrose heel.
How? This is as low as it can go :lol(http://i.imgur.com/U6TmiYm.jpg)
Sheamus is way worse than Cena.Maybe so but he's better than Reigns imo. He's a better talker than Reigns, better heel than Reigns is a face, and though he looks stupid that gives the crowd something to chant every time he shows up. Plus he's probably only gonna have it til Royal Rumble and Brock shows up to get it back.
I'm honestly really not invested in this shit anymore so when I watch I'm generally just shrug at all the directions they take.
So that being said.
Survivor Series was ok. The SS match was fun. Taker/Kane vs. Wyatts was fun, Reigns vs. Ambrose was fun.
The swerve ending was fun.
Whatever.
Anyone hear Russo bury the PPV the other night? :lol
Anyone hear Russo bury the PPV the other night? :lol
On what show?
It was a great Raw and a good main event match (and aftermath). Good for Roman.
While you guys prattle on about wwe, here's for the wrestling fans :doge
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wOaZ2tbDhis&feature=youtu.be
Luke Gallows is coming back too! Also one other person. The Rumble being for the WHC isn't even mentioned in the thread, shit Rumble confirmed. I'm going to go see a performance of The Book of Mormon on that day and don't feel too bummed about missing it live since the last few were kind of shit anyway. Recently learned that Gangrel is part of a regional indie league that is on local tv and he was their champ for a bit. Need to check their stuff out. Oh and somebody point me towards where I can see me some Lucha Undergound, wanna check that shit out too.
Indeed, but that was for a vacated title not the 'can roman overcome the odds of 29 other men GOTTA MAKE ROMAN LOOK STRONG' bullshit this is.well in my dream world hhh fucks with roman and gets him eliminated. then aj styles wins the rumble and reforms the
Bring up the Bullet Club like the Radicalz back in the day.
They filled the holes that the attitude era roster had, and improved the wrestling by a shit-ton as a result. But knowing WWE now, it'll be another group that gets whacked right after they start getting good heat.
Forget about developing anyone, they had someone come to the main roster from NXT (Owens) and on the strength of his own work in the ring and on the mic get VERY over, then couldn't figure out what to do with him cause I guess he's fat or whatever.
:piss Vince :piss2
Owens is doing quite well on Raw these days imo. Dude is easily 3rd best on the mic in the company, getting good face time, and looking like a real brutish asshole heel in his feud with Ambrose.
If WWE signs the NJPW talents that they are rumored to be romancing, it can be a HUGE development for WWE if they handle it efficiently and position these talents as top hands from the get go. Impactful debuts should be the order of the day. AJ Styles and Shinsuke Nakamura can both be major, singles stars for WWE. WWE does not have two, better singles wrestlers currently on their roster than AJ and Nakamura.
I shared my take on these talents with WWE management after I broadcast Wrestle Kingdom 9 last year. I raved about all four of the men that WWE is allegedly recruiting. I hope that this deal comes to fruition for WWE fans sake.
My GOAT isn't injured anymore? I want to watch KO vs Zami and what AJ does. I also want to see the women's ongoing feud. But I don't want to watch Raw.
My GOAT isn't injured anymore? I want to watch KO vs Zami and what AJ does. I also want to see the women's ongoing feud. But I don't want to watch Raw.
It feels like they're building towards Owens/Sami at WM.
I wouldn't be shocked if they abandoned the Owens/Zayn storyline since Sami has been out for so long.
40 minutes? That sounds more like 20 minutes, tops. :P
Yeah, RAW is only worth watching in bits and pieces. If I watch it, I also just put it on while I'm doing something else or playing games. There's a 90 minute edit version weekly on Hulu, BTW. 90 minutes still feels too long. :lol I'd turn it on after weeks of not watching and still see the same old shit again...like I hadn't missed anything. It's so awful. And that's what I meant about having good wrestlers earlier...I know they've had people for a long time, but if you watch RAW, you wouldn't know it. Nobody gets used correctly.
I haven't been watching it much for a while but I'll start tuning in more now that it's 'Mania season again.
Yes but didn't they want to put Zayn on the main roster too soon because he was at the time the face of nxt and his departure would leave a gap. He was going to stay in NXT period, after that feud, even if he hadn't been injured. But they want to play the long game and make it a long term feud since Sami hadn't gotten his win back and Sami wasn't going to get his win back injury or not because he works best as a long term goal seeker (beating Owens, getting the championship).
The fact that Zayn is the one that eliminated Owens shows they view the feud as a long term money maker.
AJ STYLES VS CHRIS JERICHO FOR THE FIRST TIME EVER
This could be worth it
Raw and SD are both filmed in stadiums though, they're not gonna be able to have intimate lighting the way other promos in smaller venues. That's a weird beef though. You don't like being able to see shit clearly?
I see what you mean, though it doesn't distract me as much since I probably don't watch those promotions as regularly as you. The NXT brooklyn kinda shoots a hole through my venue size theory. My guess is you're right and it's probably intentional since it's in line with WWE's 'elevated' presentation of everything
I would peg Bull Dempsey as the only active member of the WWE roster that owns a Vita. Dude looks like a neckbeard pedo through and through.
http://www.kayfabenews.com/guy-never-seen-shinsuke-nakamura-overjoyed-impending-wwe-debut/
:rofl :rofl :rofl
http://www.kayfabenews.com/guy-never-seen-shinsuke-nakamura-overjoyed-impending-wwe-debut/
:rofl :rofl :rofl
That's cute, but at the same time, wrestling nerds making fun of "fake fan" wrestling nerds is still kind of sad.
Bret Hart has prostate cancer. :(
Bret Hart has prostate cancer. :(spoiler (click to show/hide)That would explain all his fucking butthurt comments over the years about everything.[close]
:rofl
(From last month)
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Hunter was NEVER that good. Dude was in the mid card during the Attitude era. Like the Headbangers and Oddities. :trash
Nah, 2000 Haitch was legitimately the best heel on the planet.
Hunter was NEVER that good. Dude was in the mid card during the Attitude era. Like the Headbangers and Oddities. :trash
Even his bad period was still better than than most on the roster. Only two things I can think of that I disliked was anything involving a feud with Boreton and Eugene. Otherwise? Always a fun watch.
At one point in time, slightly before you started watching, women wrestlers actually had awesome matches. Or was it during when you watched? I don't remember the exact dates when Trish and Lita wrestled. Also we had Chyna as IC champ, which wasn't the greatest run but still.
I think we've already seen the big change him and Punk made together. The HBK and Bret of this generation. Along with basically reviving the dead indy scene in the early 2000s.
Bryan's legacy without the concussion stuff is pretty big. It's going to be a lot bigger than just reviving the indy scene and changing WWE's perception of what a superstar has to look like. Because of why Bryan retired, future generations of talents are going to become more aware of how to work safer and having longer careers and a more healthy post-career. That's what Meltzer is implying.
Him and Punk really do feel like game changers for how WWE operates. Honestly, with exception to Cena, the top two guys of the last 8-10 years have been indie guys that definitely destroyed every single mold that Vince had told us made a star.
Vegan? Check.
Straight Edge? Check.
Tattooes? Check.
Unkept beard and crazy hair? Check.
Small? Check.
Ring technicians? Check.
Now look at the next crop of guys, a chubby French Canadian. A small Syrian, Muslim, French Canadian man billed from Mexico. Or a tall, charismatic Michael Jackson inspired Japanese man with weird hair. A small, adorable women that loves to hug and isn't a supermodel.
Honestly. The doors have been busted wide open, and Punk and Bryan a large part of that.
I've seen plenty of people online brushing off Punk as if he didn't do anything. I understand people are on a "fuck Punk" kick right now, but without his Summer of Punk storyline we probably wouldn't even see Indy guys get a real honest chance.
CM Punk broke down the door. Daniel Bryan made sure it stayed opened. Permanently.
Even before the summer of Punk angle, he was incredibly important. Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't Punk the first modern indy star to win a world title in WWE? Punk was the first one to change the perception of indy guys that they can't cut it in WWE. It's no coincidence that all the major indy stars that WWE have had in recent years (including Bryan) were signed after Punk was Heavyweight Champion.
His King Of The Indies tourney run (and the final against Low-Ki) was indirectly responsible for the independent scene's resurgence and directly responsible for the formation of Ring Of Honor. Past that, his time in the WWE opened a ton of doors that guys like Sami Zayn, Kevin Owens, AJ Styles and Samoa Joe are benefiting from today.
My God, so not only did Bryan help make it OK for indie guys to get signed and succeed in WWE, but he also helped create the modern indie wrestling scene by leading to the creation of ROH.
What's crazy about Bryan's in-ring WWE career is that it lasted less than 5 years. For reference, The Shield debuted 3 and a half years ago. Dolph Ziggler debuted almost 10 years ago. To achieve as much as Bryan did in that short time without the backing of Vince and co. is insane.
We lost this generation's Austin and Rock(Or Bret and Shawn if you wanna go with the new gen comparison) in the span of three years. That really sucks.
Don't forget he's a pit bull rookie redneck*When he debuted, JBL specifically called out him winning the IWGP title and threw out a "Just like Brock Lesnar" too.
*Who is nearly 40 years old and has been a top Japanese star for the past several years.
I get if WWE doesn't want to mention TNA, but shit at least bring up his other accomplishments (even if you don't bring up NJPW by name). You make him look like a geek when he should be at least in the upper mid card.
Roman is going to need new opponents after WM outside of Triple H and Ambrose. Build up some guys already Jesus.
Don't forget he's a pit bull rookie redneck*When he debuted, JBL specifically called out him winning the IWGP title and threw out a "Just like Brock Lesnar" too.
*Who is nearly 40 years old and has been a top Japanese star for the past several years.
I get if WWE doesn't want to mention TNA, but shit at least bring up his other accomplishments (even if you don't bring up NJPW by name). You make him look like a geek when he should be at least in the upper mid card.
Roman is going to need new opponents after WM outside of Triple H and Ambrose. Build up some guys already Jesus.
Meltzer's piece on Bryan in the WON this week gave me feels. :fbm
It's a legit awesome article.
Shane McMahon is back? :lol what brought this on?
Shane McMahon is back? :lol what brought this on?
Not enough talent for Mania, I guess? Very weird return and weird that it's A) Shane against Taker and B) Taker effectively acting as McMahon's flunky here.
For storyline purposes, he came back and demanded to be handed control of the company, with it being implied that he has some dirt on dear ol' dad.
Yeah, WWE, that's what you need-- MORE MCMAHON. ::)
a mysterious "RAW vs. WWE" post-Mania event has popped up on Ticketmaster.
http://www.ticketmaster.com/wwe-monday-night-raw-vs-wwe-baltimore-maryland-05-23-2016/event/15004F8AE1514B5C (http://www.ticketmaster.com/wwe-monday-night-raw-vs-wwe-baltimore-maryland-05-23-2016/event/15004F8AE1514B5C)
Maybe this is how Vince is going to make Smackdown relevant again: by putting himself on it exclusively
Roman Reigns is still set to be the star of the show, in essentially the same position he was in a year ago. Reigns will be going against a WWE champion who is going to be cheered like crazy over him, even though the object of the match is for it to be his breakout performance and solidify him as the top babyface in the company. As of right now, the plan is for Reigns to go over and be the top babyface in the company for years to come. Vince McMahon wants this to be the springboard for several years of Reigns in the position formerly held by John Cena. And it’s very clear he’s not going to be cheered. Of all the wrestlers Reigns could face that would be the biggest drawing opponents for him unless a new guy is elevated to the top level, they are Cena, Undertaker, Brock Lesnar and possibly Dean Ambrose if he’s elevated properly. Probably right underneath that is Seth Rollins. All except Rollins are babyfaces, and there is strong belief the crowd will turn Rollins babyface upon his return, and he’d be more effective in that role. But just by the numbers game, when you’ve got The League of Nations and Kevin Owens as the top heels, and Owens, with the most potential out of that group being the one who doesn’t have a Vince McMahon main eventer look, they may fight to keep Rollins on the heel side. There’s also Randy Orton returning shortly, who is another babyface, but one who is better as a heel.
WWE is coming off a period where the prior top face, John Cena, was routinely booed most weeks on television, heavily in the larger markets, and even more on the big PPV shows. At the same time, nobody in the company moved merchandise, sold tickets, and for much of that period, garnered response, both positive and negative like Cena.
With Reigns, in many ways you have a lesser Cena. His personality isn’t strong. Like with Cena, he’s far from the best or most versatile in-ring performer, but he works hard every night. Like Cena, he can have tremendous matches in main events and then people criticize him as a bad wrestler.
But he is not as big a star as Cena, and this is with years of getting him ready. The audience at Fast Lane and at Raw booed him heavily when he’s supposed to have his most momentum building to his big win. At the same time, he does well in main events at house shows. His merchandise numbers are good, although nowhere near Cena level.
He has the look to be a star and he’s a great athlete who works hard. The problem is, the audience make up of wrestling has changed greatly and the main attributes that people look at to be the top guy, essentially looks, are less important because it’s an audience that for the most part doesn’t care in a money way about looks. But like all entertainment businesses, decisions are made based on looks and the perception that looks are the key factor in being a top star.
Perhaps in another era, based on the standards of that era, Reigns would be the guy to lead the company for the next five years. But no amount of knowing what used to work or thinking what should work can cover up, that today, this didn’t work. You can analyze why, and I’ve heard it from the smartest guys in the business, and some who may not be so smart. But none of those reasons, whether they are right or wrong, changes that no matter how things should have gone, and how crowds should have reacted, they didn’t. And going into WrestleMania, they aren’t going to change, particularly with the audience that travels to that show loving HHH. He’s the guy who gave them their NXT and him clearly wanting that adulation while winking that he’s playing bad guy on television and that the angles on the show don’t count.
But as a part-time wrestler, HHH’s role was to set up the new star, which means losing the title, unless Vince McMahon gets cold feet again. But this time, there’s really no answer. The most popular wrestler, Brock Lesnar, is also part-time. Dean Ambrose isn’t Vince McMahon’s type. They can go back to Cena as the default guy, but they’ve got nobody in developmental right now that that fully fits the standards they want as a new Cena. That’s not to say that putting a likeable character like Sami Zayn in that spot to today’s audience that it may not work. It probably will. But that requires Vince McMahon to see wrestling as something different than he sees it.
And at this point, it doesn’t seem to matter. Business is what business is. There are no major difference makers, except maybe for a unique match here and there. Whether Roman Reigns or Sami Zayn or Dean Ambrose is the face of the company, it’ s not 1987 when you change the world champion and put the wrong guy with the belt and business goes to hell. The story of the last several years has been the struggle between the hardcore fans and the decision makers relying on what the standards once were and aren’t any longer. And in the end, none of this seems to have any bearing on the bottom line.
I just don't understand why there needs to be one guy. It's much more entertaining when there are 3-5 guys who are all the "top" guy. Can you imagine Austin without Vince or Rock? I mean, if there's only one guy, then there is no story to tell. That's the problem right now. There's no story being told. The only story is "hey, pretend like Roman isn't going to win so we can surprise you when he does lolol".
Cena was fine last year. That was refreshing.
It wouldn't exactly "fix" things. But might as well go deep with Roman as top face while giving him a heel to battle him, and who better than the former face of the company?
Cena's already a heel to half the crowd, officially turning him would just flip reactions and potentially lower his merch sales, I just don't see it happening. Would it be great and freshen up an insanely stale character? Yeah, but would Vince ever say yes to his long running primary concern and breadwinner being eeevil?
I think it's more resignation to him being at the top of the card no matter what, so why not have him be a heel?
ngl brehs I marked out like a small child when Shane's music hit. i really thought he wasn't ever coming back.
roman turning heel rumors, let us pray
https://www.reddit.com/r/SquaredCircle/comments/4bqzl4/smackdown_spoilers_piped_in_boos/
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Corbin wins! No Cena. So weird placement to me, although if you're gonna have Shaq, it can't be a preshow thing.
dkd, that's Lana, yeah. Took me a minute to figure out who it was during the show, too.
Corbin wins! No Cena. So weird placement to me, although if you're gonna have Shaq, it can't be a preshow thing.
dkd, that's Lana, yeah. Took me a minute to figure out who it was during the show, too.
was she at least better than eva marie at wrestling
It was legit bad. Every match finished was bad.
It was legit bad. Every match finished was bad.
Nah, Zack Ryder winning was a legitimately awesome surprise
-Zack Ryder lost the IC title to The Miz
I thought that last night's Raw was tons better than Mania.
:yeshrug
I thought that last night's Raw was tons better than Mania.
:yeshrug
Is that really saying much? :doge
There was a fan made version of Cesaro's theme with EVEN MORE sirens added in but I sadly can't find it. :(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJ3t39qyATE
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:confused
so...what was the point of any of that match?
Huh, that would fit the Mr. McMahon character pretty well actually, in that he engineers situations where he can always be right.
Of course they usually also blow up in his face so that part should be fun.
Wrestling sucks and is dumbAlso, videogames.
Balls Mahoney passed away :(
https://twitter.com/Candido118/status/720059481640583168
Wrestling sucks and is dumb
There's a house show in Hawaii happening on June 29 that has a fucking insane card.
>Charlotte vs. Asuka
>Kevin Owens vs. Brock Lesnar
>John Cena vs. Shinsuke Nakamura
Crossing my fingers it's a Network special.
http://variety.com/2016/tv/news/wwe-smackdown-live-usa-1201782569/
Brand split is back baby.
Ive always hated the brand split. But the show sucks so don't really care, I just think it's funny they did this after firing half of their roster.
Ive always hated the brand split. But the show sucks so don't really care, I just think it's funny they did this after firing half of their roster.
Half their roster? They did their annual spring cleaning for like half a dozen dudes that never get used, and Sandow. They bring up at least that many NXT people every year anyway.
I'm more surprised they did the brand split with SD being on USA now. Hopefully this doesn't go too disastrously
Big Dave thinks having two world champs is a bad idea. I can't disagree with him since you're basically halving the pool of challengers for the top spot.
But Roman and Cena will never lose so it's moot. :teehee
Vince is so adamant on keeping Roman a babyface that it's hurting the company.
Maybe they'll do a thing where they hotshot the title back and forth between the three with a big payoff at SS? Who knows wtf they're thinking these days, though.
Just realized he won't be around for the draft. That may end up being funny.
Lesnar got busted by USADA
gg
DANIEL BRYAN IS THE SMACKDOWN GM :lawd
...this 3/2 Raw/SD pick structure is resulting in a stacked Raw roster and a sparse SD roster from all appearances
The draft is still going on, BTW, on the WWE network for another hour....this 3/2 Raw/SD pick structure is resulting in a stacked Raw roster and a sparse SD roster from all appearances
Raw has that extra hour to burn and it's supposed to have a cruiserweight division again, so it wasn't surprising.
What I didn't like was Stephanie (which might as well have been Vince) shitting all over Smackdown. The show just went live and they're still making it seem like a B-show again. They're never gonna learn.
What will a real change be? If creative on SD is different. That's what can potentially make all the difference, regardless of the roster.
New commentary teams!
Raw: Cole, Graves, Saxton
SD: Mauro, JBL, Otunga
http://www.wwe.com/article/new-wwe-announce-teams-revealed
I think SD is gonna be the show I'll watch weekly. I think there's a solid base there and a lot of room to grow, while Raw is very status quo.
UPDATE: In addition to the commentary booth updates on Raw, SmackDown Live and more, WWE Hall of Famers Booker T and Jerry “The King” Lawler will bring their decades of experience in sports-entertainment to recurring Pre-Shows and Kickoffs as key analysts, among other names still to be announced. Stay with WWE.com for additional updates.
Cena's already there.Cena basically has one foot out the door. With all his other commitments I wouldn't be shocked if he shifted to part timer soon.
Orton did a pretty good job with Jericho. Apparently he's going to be the top Smackdown babyface. Weird with Dean on there.
Cena's already there.
Raw is uh, pretty damn good. Did not expect this
Raw is uh, pretty damn good. Did not expect this
Agreed. And my thinking the whole time has been "now how can they make it all go downhill from here? :doge
By having Roman pin Balor. :doge:gloomy
Except I don't want to watch Raw and Smackdown every week so I'm still gonna pick one :lol
That was the best Raw in ages. :ohhh
Raw is pretty rough but I think SD has been pretty solid.
It's really, really hard to watch Summer Slam after that amazing NXT show. I dunno if I'm gonna be able to get through this live. :lol
Ambrose sucks in the ring but he's a good talker.
Ambrose sucks in the ring but he's a good talker.
So was Rowdy Roddy Piper :yeshrug
Piper was a better talker, doe.
Lesnar just fucking murdered Orton.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=URNRTrpnT7g
the fatal 4-way next week doesn't inspire a lot of excitement
i doubt it'll be cass. i doubt it'll be owens. so we just have reigns and rollins again.
Gotta say, he's the only heel who can actually get mad heel heat by acting like one.Other heels could do that but instead they play to the crowd for cheers. KO is the best example of this. Dude is good as a heel but he works the ring and mic for cheers from the crowd. Stuff like him shitting on Cole or having clever but mean lines is okay but it's not real heel work. What Miz has done for quite a while now (since the Mizdow stuff) is genuine heel work and he's just so goddamn good at making people hate him.
Even now I bet you some are seeing this as too real for them and can't stand that he attacked poor Daniel Bryan :'(
That Miz/Bryan segment^They never finalized those contracts.
:whoo
Dirt sheets are saying that the Dudleys really did finish their run with the WWE and they had a farewell segment with the crowd that wasn't televised. What we did see on TV was a shitty way to go out, lol. This still makes no sense to me since it was reported that both of them signed new contracts recently.
PWInsider.com reported several weeks ago that the team had come to terms for a new deal with the company. Sources indicate that while that was correct, the new deals had not yet been officially executed and at some point over the last seven days, WWE and the Dudleys amicably agreed to part ways and that the team would finish out on Raw, dropping the teased split of the team that had been built over the last several weeks.
:beli HHH making himself the center of attention again. I'd rather have Roman.
Smackdown stay winning.
I was mostly kidding there. Either way I don't watch Raw so put whoever on there. :lol
And the first WWE Universal Champion is...
Kevin Owens! :o
With help from HHH
:dead
Orton Injured, Possibly Out Of Backlash PPV Match Tonight
It looks like there is trouble brewing behind the Randy Orton vs. Bray Wyatt match scheduled for tonight's WWE Backlash pay-per-view.
According to a report by James McKeena, Orton has been dealing with an undisclosed injury that will prevent him from working tonight's match with Wyatt.
"The Viper" just recently returned from a lengthy hiatus taken while he underwent surgery and spent several months undergoing rehab before having his first PPV match back with WWE at last month's SummerSlam show.
As of this article, WWE is still advertising the Orton-Wyatt match for tonight's PPV.
https://streamable.com/664ugoodbye my september no fap challenge
Harley Quinn Alexa Bliss. :lawd :lawd :lawd
Apparently Goldberg vs. Lesnar is happening at Survivor Series. :larry
WrestleZone published a story today, crediting their writer Justin LaBar, that TNA’s tape library had been sold to WWE and that Billy Corgan would be continuing on with a rebranded version of Impact Wrestling.
TNA’s longest-running employee Bob Ryder pushed back strong against the report, stating: “Guess again ‘reliable sources.'”
I mean that's obvious based on the Summerslam ending.
I mean that's obvious based on the Summerslam ending.
Not really 'obvious' so much as 'convoluted' and 'really dumb'
http://www.wwe.com/article/paige-suspended-60-days :-\
Thirty-seconds-of-Google will get you her version of the story.
Fair enough. It honestly sounds more lame and happenstance-riffic than, say, when a UFC fighter has similar problems.Thirty-seconds-of-Google will get you her version of the story.
But that implies that I care enough to google this. :doge
Fair enough. It honestly sounds more lame and happenstance-riffic than, say, when a UFC fighter has similar problems.Thirty-seconds-of-Google will get you her version of the story.
But that implies that I care enough to google this. :doge
"WWE has suspended Saraya-Jade Bevis (Paige) for 60 days effective immediately, for her second violation of the company’s talent wellness policy," wrote WWE in a statement released on their official website on Monday.
Shortly after the news went public via WWE's statement, the WWE Superstar and Total Divas cast-member took to social media to vent her frustration regarding her second suspension for a WWE Wellness Policy violation.
As Paige explained in a tweet posted on her official Twitter page on Monday, she had a legitimate prescription and a doctors note for the medication she took that resulted in her testing positive for a prohibited substance, yet it wasn't enough for WWE.
"Same sh*t different day," wrote Paige in the first of four tweets acknowledging her WWE suspension and Wellness Policy violation. "Kids ... please don't get prescriptions or doctors notes. Not acceptable."
In a separate tweet, Paige wrote a controversial one-liner saying, "Rules apply depending on your status." This seems to be alluding to WWE giving special privileges to certain talents depending on who they are.
"Ok here we go again. Yes, I know about my daughters [suspension, and] once again she has not failed a [drug] test.
My daughter has had a long term neck injury which [in my opinion] has not been dealt with. I have [asked] my daughter to return to [the] U.K. for help with this injury as help and direction in the U.S.A. has not been forthcoming [in my opinion]. She has been in pain and out of in-ring action for a fair while now and has been prescribed pain killers which apparently is against the [WWE] wellness program. I feel my daughter has been let down big time in the U.S.A. and the proper care and advice needed in the position she has been in has not happened. To say I am pissed off with the situation is an understatement. This is my statement. I am not open to questions. Thank you for your cooperation.”
https://twitter.com/WWE/status/785671565073522689
:idont
So after all the confusing build up, Wrestlemania XX arrived. Godz, what did you think going into this match?
At the time I was still a fairly big WWE fan, and I bought tickets as soon as they went on sale, with the hopes of seeing a rumored (at the time) match between Hulk Hogan and Randy Savage. That….didn’t quite happen….but, I digress. I had a tradition of going to WWE shows dressed as Hulk Hogan at the time, the crowd got a kick out of it and it was just fun to represent my favorite wrestler of all time. So I brought the Red and Yellow all the way to NYC for ‘Mania.
Out of nowhere, this thing really takes a turn for the bizarre, as the crowd starts chanting “Hogan”.
HUH?!
Godz, do you have anything to do with this?
I heard someone taunting me from behind “Hey Hogaannnn…” I turn around, and there’s someone decked out as a 1980’s Macho Man Randy Savage.
So we’re taunting each other back and forth (He’s a few rows behind me), and the crowd starts really getting into it, as I get in “Macho’s” face, taunt him with my replica WWF title belt, we’re cutting promos on each other, etc. A small “Hogan” chant starts up, and even people at ringside can be seen looking up at us.
The biggest pop of the night (hush, I’m the one telling this) comes when I rip my shirt off and do all the classic Hogan poses. Someone tells me that the commentators are even watching at this point, I look down and see that its true. Big Hogan chant continues until a security guard comes over and is like “Man that’s funny as hell, but they told me to make you sit down.”
Why is the Spirit Squad a thing in 2016? :goty
WWE issued a statement to the New York Post regarding the suspension of Paige. “Saraya-Jade Bevis tested positive for an illegal substance, not a prescription drug,” reads the WWE statement. “In addition, WWE is providing world-class medical care for her in-ring injury.” Read more at NewYorkPost.com.
Powell’s POV: Paige and her family members have claimed publicly that she was suspended over a prescription that the company did not approve of. WWE typically doesn’t offer details in terms of what triggered Wellness Policy suspensions, but it appears they felt the need to tell their side of the story in this case.
Sunny, did you see your dude finally weighing in on the election?
https://twitter.com/DaveBautista/status/788079876335136768
I'd forgotten how crazy people were for Batista. Was watching old WWE Draft episodes of Raw on the Network last week (don't ask) and the 2009 episode, where he'd just gotten back from an injury had the crowd going nuts for him. One day he'll return, maybe after the next GotG. Just keep him away from the title. Hell, throw him in a match with HHH at WM.
As for Paige...24 year olds make crazy decisions. Good luck to her I guess
Probably gonna break from watching SD only and watch Raw tonight for Goldberg :-\
Don't talk about the Spear master that way :maf
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This kinda sucks if Brock doesn't come out.
You're right, I should be meaner. THANKS FOR ENDING BRET'S CAREER, YOU FUCKING HACK.(https://static1.squarespace.com/static/522a2049e4b0a0ce717e990c/562cd929e4b08c9d7b38b606/562cd92ae4b01024eb62b64e/1445779762470/download+(17).gif)
:doge
Have they said when the match will be? I really hope Bill's got enough time to get in ring shape.Survivor Series I think? So, next month.
Ruru deserves better than getting buried by Reigns. :fbmYeah, I don't get that. Usos were booked the same way. Jumping and 2 on 1-ing dudes and such yet they were the good guys. Hell it became more obvious when they became heels. Dudes just changed ring gear to hoodies and their song to something with a harder beat without changing their personalities at all and were perfect heels. Is it too much to hope for a double turn from this feud? A good guy foreigner would be a pleasant change for once.
I hate the feud anyway because Roman comes off as an asshole who is interrupting Rusev's life (crashing the wedding celebration, interrupting when Rusev is showing off his family). And he's supposed to be the babyface? ???
Wow that Goldberg promo was great. Didn't embarrass himself, kept it simple, and sounded wonderful. It shows he's done TV work since WCW, because he's GREAT on the mic now.FWIW the youtube version cut out where he called the game "2017WWE2K" or something like that but otherwise it was a fantastic promo.
Pretty fucking good!
TS is fine. D-Bry comes off as a real piece of shit any time I've caught it. SD is a dumpster fire, too, but is shorter and has AJ. At least NXT finally has some focus with the Dusty Classic and influx of CWC guys after being completely aimless from day 1 of Balor's reign on.
My gf is continually confused about how Roman is the good guy. The entire Rusev promo was about how he loves his family and how great they are. Somehow that = BAD GUY.
:lol
You marks
For me, the past 2 moths of Bryan both as a fully written character and him being (mostly) himself on TS and TD/TB has made me come to dislike him a lot.DBs best schtick was him being a dick to AJ? Gtfo haha
Post "retirement" DB can kick rocks. Dude is STILL talking about the doctors being wrong, his post WWE wrestling plans, voting for the weirdest candidate in the race, being an absolute shitbag to his co-workers and in laws on TV. It makes sense that his best character was when he was a dickbag to AJ on TV every week. That was the closest to the real him. Who would have thunk it?
I like Bryan a LOT but he looked terrible. Just a little grooming would have paid off even bigger.
You don't understand, Sunny. She shit on my favorite of all time, Daniel Bryan! Therefore she's an evil monster who hates children and also WWE charities are all fraudulence! :maf :maf :mafTo be fair Komen for the cure is a pretty bullshit charity and Steph very very rarely gets any sort of comeuppance for being an asshat on TV. Misogyny is NOT tolerated on the SA boards these days and she's endlessly called a Mary Sue on there. :lol
I didn't watch live last night. I'm glad I didn't.
They did Curtis Axel so fucking rotten after he gave THE GREATEST PROMO OF HIS FUCKING LIFE.
Yep, he RKO'd Kane during his match and then left. Then there was a backstage interview where he just looked around for a while and then said "if you can't beat em, join em" and left.
Also Becky Lynch got a yellow streak spraypainted on her back and James Ellsworth cost Dean a title shot. All in all a good, weird show. Oh, also the Hype Bros won a match. Most shocking moment of the night.
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Only way to do it is keep making emails every month because the free trials are tied to emails instead of card numbers
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I hope Orton goes all in with the Wyatts. He could use a refresh, or something. I'm fine with the Viper stuff, I don't think that's a gimmick that expires, but making Randy more interesting would be good.
Well, gimmick is definitely the wrong word. But it's his character. His motivations have always been really written poorly post-Legacy, which is a shame. He's still dynamite in the ring. Let's hope this gives him some direction and freshening.I hope Orton goes all in with the Wyatts. He could use a refresh, or something. I'm fine with the Viper stuff, I don't think that's a gimmick that expires, but making Randy more interesting would be good.
What is The Viper gimmick? I would argue that's what has made him so boring and forgettable the past few years is that he hasn't actually had a gimmick in like 5-6 years. From the time he turned face in what...2011? He hasn't had any kind of discernible character beyond "Randy Orton".
Kane, Taker, and a surprise transfer from Raw: Brawn Strowman! :doge Actually after last night I wouldn't be surprised to see Ambrose join a team against the Wyatts.
Also for what its worth I do like WWE a lot more now than I did before. I think it has to do with just watching less. Stopped Raw outside of PPVs, picked up Smackdown, and don't watch NXT outside of the Takeovers and I'm immediately more positive on the product.
Right now there are no plans for bringing Nakamura to the main roster. At least for now, he’s pegged to be the flagship star of the NXT brand.
Quote from: Big Dave MeltzerRight now there are no plans for bringing Nakamura to the main roster. At least for now, he’s pegged to be the flagship star of the NXT brand.
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Holy shit the NWA On Demand set up is absolute garbage.Free trial?
How was the PPV?
Turned off Raw after Goldberg humiliated Rusev. :fbm
Turned off Raw after Goldberg humiliated Rusev. :fbm
Rusev is WWE's top heel though, he's doing god's work helping put over Goldbug.
Wrestling has become a block of time where I get to play games or browse the web and she gets to write or draw. Every Monday, Tuesday, and some Sundays. It's a good thing to have.
Turned off Raw after Goldberg humiliated Rusev. :fbm
Rusev is WWE's top heel though, he's doing god's work helping put over Goldbug.
I thought that was Roman. :^)
http://www.wwe.com/article/205-live-premieres-nov-29-on-wwe-network?sf40786623=1
New Live weekly show on the Network for the Cruisers.
Is this just admitting that the Raw Cruiser division is a failure?
If you're looking to stop watching WWE, no reason to stop watching wrasslin'. Check out Lucha Underground, which is something different but might just scratch your itch. Also, one bonus - it's only an hour each week. And they have an off-season.
Election special: Corey Graves and Booker T in WWE's hilarious green screen room doing election coverage
Am I the only one who was kinda weirded out with Booker acting like more of a cartoon character when he showed up in WWE?
Like, I'm not going to pretend I watched the last few months of WCW(our cable provider switched to WWF a bit before the buyout) but he never came off like that to me in WCW.
Told by 2.heart Drs at this time that my heart is wore out from footbal&wrestling I have 2 yrs to live , conjestive hesrt failure reality
Undertaker showed up to be...a cheerleader? ??? Also sounds like he might be a regular again :doge
They're swapping the IC title with the CWC. At least that's the way I see it. I believe 205 Live is being tapped before Smackdown so it makes sense to move them there.
And having Sami go up against Ziggler doesn't make any sense really.
True but I don't really see who benefits in a direct face vs face match in that case.. The SS matches are different cuz you got a mix. Having Miz vs. Sami gives a clear good guy/bad guy.
Problem is then, what the hell does Miz and Ziggler do without the IC title? They ain't Cruisers.
Bill Goldberg says he tweaked his shoulder on RAW and his body feels “horrible” in the days leading up to his in-ring return against Brock Lesnar at Survivor Series.http://www.sescoops.com/goldberg-says-he-tweaked-his-shoulder-on-raw-my-body-feels-horrible/
During an interview with Scott Dargis of NBC Sports, Goldberg spoke about the reaction he got during his first WWE TV appearance in 12 years, what he’s done to train for his fight against Lesnar and his son finally getting able to watch him wrestle. Fans will remember several weeks back that Goldberg slipped in the ring while brawling with Rusev. When asked if the slip was Goldberg’s body telling him it’s time to take it easy, Goldberg replied, “Oh God yes. Absolutely…”
DIY vs the Revival was insane. These dudes continually outdo themselves.
DIY/Revival is probably the match of the year. About as good as wrasslin can get in 2016.
LOL and another PPV ending missed as the network disconnects in the final seconds of the main event. This is at least the third time this has happened to me. I pay for this because it's easier than signing up for a new email every month, but this kind of bullshit fills my spite-o-meter to the maxIf you're always home for the ppvs there's plenty of streams around.
DIY/Revival is probably the match of the year. About as good as wrasslin can get in 2016.
also quick question, what do ya'll think of the Ellsworth angle?
Dave says Goldberg's going to be sticking around for a bit, and he'll be having a rematch with Lesnar, which is a deal they made within the last week (originally, Lesnar was booked to win). Lesnar, among others pushed for the deal because he saw money in Goldberg, and Vince must have seen it too. Dave isn't sure, but he presumes he'll be working the Rumble (which he says is pretty much a given) and Wrestlemania. Beyond that, it's unclear.Everyone wants a piece of that Goldberg payday
He also says the match was not shortened due to Goldberg's injury. From the time he decided to stay, the point of the match became getting him over, so they did the match that originally got him over.
I agree with most of this, but I thought Seth getting the title at Mania was dope, and Roman getting shit on for like six months after that actually got me on his side. I guess if not liking Roman Reigns makes me a smark so be it, but even the most casual fans I know despise him. I loved Seth as the chickenshit heelHave a dude conquer the streak and then get slaughtered by 'berg brehs.
The possibility of beating Brock to get the streak rub was squandered when they had him lose the title without losing because they caved to smarks who hated Roman, which also damn near killed Roman's career and also made the rest of 2015 miserable television with Seth being the center of attention and murdering Sting live on PPV. Arguably, it was squandered the month after he destroyed Cena is a far more brutal squash than what Goldberg did to Brock, when during the rematch, Cena mostly dominated, had Brock running off, and had Brock seconds from tapping before interference saved him. And DEFINITELY by the time Brock got into a feud with Dean Ambrose.
Goldberg squashing Brock was a way cooler moment than anything that has happened with Brock since Brock squashed Cena. No one is going to get a rub from beating Brock, because he'll leave for 3-6 months, come back with actual media hype and be bigger than everyone, while whoever beat him will have been booked into oblivion within that same period.
:lol of fucking courseQuoteDave says Goldberg's going to be sticking around for a bit, and he'll be having a rematch with Lesnar, which is a deal they made within the last week (originally, Lesnar was booked to win). Lesnar, among others pushed for the deal because he saw money in Goldberg, and Vince must have seen it too. Dave isn't sure, but he presumes he'll be working the Rumble (which he says is pretty much a given) and Wrestlemania. Beyond that, it's unclear.Everyone wants a piece of that Goldberg payday
He also says the match was not shortened due to Goldberg's injury. From the time he decided to stay, the point of the match became getting him over, so they did the match that originally got him over.
Oh and can I go back to the fucking laughable moment in Takeover when they played Joey Samoey's Version 1 music when he won? Fucking LMAO, I lost it when I heard that bass for Jet Moto 2.It's still up on the network archive, surprisingly
I really want Joe to get that callup. He could do great work with Miz, Cena, or even with Corbin if they went that way. Plus he and AJ would work great together as well. Hell they could build him as Smackdown's monster and have him do a crossbrand match with Braun or Bork.I could go for that. No clue why they gave him back the title and don't have him jump up. If he's supposed to be a gatekeeper at NXT, fine, but...he could do a lot up on SD or even Raw.
Good Smackdown last night. The main event scene being one big comedy show has somehow made SD so much more endearing to me now. Dean endlessly poking and backpatting Shane, Ellsworth coming out in a neck brace and still winning a ladder match, AJ just getting pissed at everything...so good. :lol Unexpectedly, the one part of the show that falls flat for me is DBrine getting upset at the heels and using his authority to put them in matches against Kane.
So Shane was okay? I love the idea of multiple people on the roster being mean as fuck to Bryan, and Bryan just kind of pouting and letting 50 year old Kane do his dirty work for him.
Man they switch that womens belt like every month or two now huh
The matches scheduled for a house show here Friday are
KO/Roman
Seth/Y2J
Charlotte/Bayley
Sasha/Nia Jax
New Day/Club/Cesaro and Sheamus/Enzo and Cass
I've lost almost all interest in the Raw women's division. Smackdown has the better group of womens wrestlers. Alexa/Becky far more interesting of a feud.
All the women should be on one show, same with tag teams. There aren't enough wrestlers in those divisions to justify a roster split.
205 tonight. Wonder if it'll be worth a shit.
The decision to do it live AFTER SD is the dumbest shit. Especially if they didn't move the division to SD. So now you're going to have those guys working Raw, their own show, NXT, and house shows, and half of them aren't even on full time contracts.
205 tonight. Wonder if it'll be worth a shit.
The decision to do it live AFTER SD is the dumbest shit. Especially if they didn't move the division to SD. So now you're going to have those guys working Raw, their own show, NXT, and house shows, and half of them aren't even on full time contracts.
I wouldn't be surprised if they have the show live on Tuesday so it traps the cruisers up on Mondays and Tuesdays. Limits their ability to do shows elsewhere. That way if they wave a contract in their face they'll be more likely to sign it.
I wouldn't be surprised if they have the show live on Tuesday so it traps the cruisers up on Mondays and Tuesdays. Limits their ability to do shows elsewhere. That way if they wave a contract in their face they'll be more likely to sign it.
Oh, that's downright...McMahon.
I wouldn't be surprised if they have the show live on Tuesday so it traps the cruisers up on Mondays and Tuesdays. Limits their ability to do shows elsewhere. That way if they wave a contract in their face they'll be more likely to sign it.
That doesn't make a lot of sense to me, since most indies run Friday-Sunday. Most of the bigger ones don't even run Sundays. If anything, keeping them trapped to Mondays and Tuesdays gives them more of a chance to keep working indie dates.
Can we all agree that anytime Chris Jericho has been a face, it's been the worst Chris Jericho ever?
Can we all agree that anytime Chris Jericho has been a face, it's been the worst Chris Jericho ever?
I can't believe how weird the dudes on GAF are to think that a heel can't be happy to win a title. There was nothing about Alexa being emotional over winning the title in front of her parents that breaks kayfabe or character. Shit man, even the fucking Undertaker had parents that he loved. The only kayfabe breaking on Talking Smack is Bryan, but they love it when he does it so they can say SHOOOOOOOOOT for 15 posts in a row.
I remember a time when they called people like myself, Sunflower, Heel, Dream, etc "gimmick posters" for not being in line with whatever the internet hivemind on wrestling was that week, yet now the thread is literally 20,000 posts of people cutting promos on each other in character as if they're really wrestlers. There was for real a time when daring to suggest that Dean Ambrose was kind of shitty would get people trying to get you banned for gimmick posting.
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I can't believe how weird the dudes on GAF are to think that a heel can't be happy to win a title. There was nothing about Alexa being emotional over winning the title in front of her parents that breaks kayfabe or character. Shit man, even the fucking Undertaker had parents that he loved. The only kayfabe breaking on Talking Smack is Bryan, but they love it when he does it so they can say SHOOOOOOOOOT for 15 posts in a row.
As for Ellsworth, he explained his actions on Talking Smack: AJ Styles has been unable to beat him. AJ retaining the title means that James gets a title shot against the man who can't beat him, ergo, he'll be the next WWE Champion.now that is some wrasslin logic :lol
I can't believe how weird the dudes on GAF are to think that a heel can't be happy to win a title. There was nothing about Alexa being emotional over winning the title in front of her parents that breaks kayfabe or character. Shit man, even the fucking Undertaker had parents that he loved. The only kayfabe breaking on Talking Smack is Bryan, but they love it when he does it so they can say SHOOOOOOOOOT for 15 posts in a row.
I remember a time when they called people like myself, Sunflower, Heel, Dream, etc "gimmick posters" for not being in line with whatever the internet hivemind on wrestling was that week, yet now the thread is literally 20,000 posts of people cutting promos on each other in character as if they're really wrestlers. There was for real a time when daring to suggest that Dean Ambrose was kind of shitty would get people trying to get you banned for gimmick posting.
:neogaf
I remember a time when they called people like myself, Sunflower, Heel, Dream, etc "gimmick posters" for not being in line with whatever the internet hivemind on wrestling was that week, yet now the thread is literally 20,000 posts of people cutting promos on each other in character as if they're really wrestlers. There was for real a time when daring to suggest that Dean Ambrose was kind of shitty would get people trying to get you banned for gimmick posting.People got so angry, too. SO ANGRY. How dare you think differently! It's pretty rough reading in that wrassle thread now. Just today someone said:
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Who's the most famous professional wrestler who's actually really shit in ring; Kevin Nash or HHH?
My answer is HHH
Rusev deserves better.The reaction he and Lana got at the house show I went to last week was fantastic. The boos for them shitting on New Mexico and the USA chants were deafening. The only people who got louder reactions were Roman and Big Show. Show easily got the biggest pop of the night, same thing as the last house show I went to here. Kids love that big fucker!
Alexa Bliss is my favorite. My favorite everything.
Yeah but who gives a shit? Why is sharking talent pathetic?Personally, I think HHH's death reign is actually full of tons of good TV matches and angles and holds up a lot better than his McMahon-Helmsley era run that people say was his best time. I also think it is genuinely a bit pathetic at how much he, as a man in his mid 40s who has been at the top of his industry for closing in on 20 years and is the heir apparent to take over WWE (and is a multi-millionaire), shamelessly panders to the smark crowd with NXT and his proud dad social media pics. Shit is sad. You're begging for approval of people like this, Hunter:
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I think it's less him pandering to smarks and more so him being a smark himself. Didn't he grow up idolizing Flair, Rhodes and Harley Race?
So did pretty much everyone else who got into the business at that time. You really think HHH watches Dragon Gate and is like HMMM WE NEED TO SIGN THIS UHAA NATION GUY? Of course not. He sends Regal around to scout people the internet buzzes about, then he takes pictures with them and takes credit for signing them. HHH thinks EVOLVE is the hottest indie company, breh.
PPV was OK. Felt like Sunday Night Smackdown and not a special event, but still good.
Ellsworth switching sides to AJ made zero sense. Not even for wrasslin'.I can't believe how weird the dudes on GAF are to think that a heel can't be happy to win a title. There was nothing about Alexa being emotional over winning the title in front of her parents that breaks kayfabe or character. Shit man, even the fucking Undertaker had parents that he loved. The only kayfabe breaking on Talking Smack is Bryan, but they love it when he does it so they can say SHOOOOOOOOOT for 15 posts in a row.
Alexa was clearly out of character at the beginning of that interview-- She was overly-happy and sweet. Might as well have been a different person. Then it was like she remembered she was a heel and shifted back into Bliss-bitch mode when she started talking about Becky Lynch.
Just because she's a raging cunt when doing her job doesn't mean she's one 100% of the time. I see absolutely no reason why being happy and emotional over winning the title is somehow character/kayfabe breaking. It wasn't character breaking when KO cried after winning the title. A heel being caught up in emotion is not character breaking.
It's true though. Everyone is engaged with him during his matches, just like they are with Cena matches. That match with KO had no chants for KO. Everyone was chanting for or against Roman. Which is a lot lot better than no reaction like Carmella gets. Fucking Philly, the smarkiest cunt town in the country, popped for Roman and chanted you deserve it for his title win at the end of last year because they liked how he was booked for that show (as a total bad ass). In fact, crowds are clearly dying for a reason to cheer for Roman based on how having him go on a rampage works EVERY SINGLE TIME. It's not Roman's fault they book him like Hogan instead of Goldberg.That's exactly why it isn't true though! No one is chanting "YOU CAN'T WRESTLE" at roman. Smarks don't hate him because they think he's bad at wrestling. Everyone hates him because of the fucking booking! Like, yeah, duh, it isn't his fault, but he still gets booked like motherfucking Superman! Are people supposed to be like "Oh, well he's gone over for three years even though everyone has booed the fuck out of him, but that's okay because he doesn't actually get to dictate his own schedule"? No! He constantly goes over in situations where everyone wants him to lose, no one gives a fuck about that shit! And everyone wants to cheer him because his shit would work so much better as a fucking heel! None of this means the audience 'doesn't understand' why they actually like Roman Reigns! EVERYONE IS FUCKING SICK OF THEM TRYING TO MAKE ROMAN HAPPEN FOR LIKE FOUR YEARS!
That's exactly why it isn't true though! No one is chanting "YOU CAN'T WRESTLE" at roman. Smarks don't hate him because they think he's bad at wrestling. Everyone hates him because of the fucking booking! Like, yeah, duh, it isn't his fault, but he still gets booked like motherfucking Superman! Are people supposed to be like "Oh, well he's gone over for three years even though everyone has booed the fuck out of him, but that's okay because he doesn't actually get to dictate his own schedule"? No! He constantly goes over in situations where everyone wants him to lose, no one gives a fuck about that shit! And everyone wants to cheer him because his shit would work so much better as a fucking heel! None of this means the audience 'doesn't understand' why they actually like Roman Reigns! EVERYONE IS FUCKING SICK OF THEM TRYING TO MAKE ROMAN HAPPEN FOR LIKE FOUR YEARS!
It's true though. Everyone is engaged with him during his matches, just like they are with Cena matches. That match with KO had no chants for KO. Everyone was chanting for or against Roman. Which is a lot lot better than no reaction like Carmella gets. Fucking Philly, the smarkiest cunt town in the country, popped for Roman and chanted you deserve it for his title win at the end of last year because they liked how he was booked for that show (as a total bad ass). In fact, crowds are clearly dying for a reason to cheer for Roman based on how having him go on a rampage works EVERY SINGLE TIME. It's not Roman's fault they book him like Hogan instead of Goldberg.That's exactly why it isn't true though! No one is chanting "YOU CAN'T WRESTLE" at roman. Smarks don't hate him because they think he's bad at wrestling. Everyone hates him because of the fucking booking! Like, yeah, duh, it isn't his fault, but he still gets booked like motherfucking Superman! Are people supposed to be like "Oh, well he's gone over for three years even though everyone has booed the fuck out of him, but that's okay because he doesn't actually get to dictate his own schedule"? No! He constantly goes over in situations where everyone wants him to lose, no one gives a fuck about that shit! And everyone wants to cheer him because his shit would work so much better as a fucking heel! None of this means the audience 'doesn't understand' why they actually like Roman Reigns! EVERYONE IS FUCKING SICK OF THEM TRYING TO MAKE ROMAN HAPPEN FOR LIKE FOUR YEARS!
It's true though. Everyone is engaged with him during his matches, just like they are with Cena matches. That match with KO had no chants for KO. Everyone was chanting for or against Roman. Which is a lot lot better than no reaction like Carmella gets. Fucking Philly, the smarkiest cunt town in the country, popped for Roman and chanted you deserve it for his title win at the end of last year because they liked how he was booked for that show (as a total bad ass). In fact, crowds are clearly dying for a reason to cheer for Roman based on how having him go on a rampage works EVERY SINGLE TIME. It's not Roman's fault they book him like Hogan instead of Goldberg.That's exactly why it isn't true though! No one is chanting "YOU CAN'T WRESTLE" at roman. Smarks don't hate him because they think he's bad at wrestling. Everyone hates him because of the fucking booking! Like, yeah, duh, it isn't his fault, but he still gets booked like motherfucking Superman! Are people supposed to be like "Oh, well he's gone over for three years even though everyone has booed the fuck out of him, but that's okay because he doesn't actually get to dictate his own schedule"? No! He constantly goes over in situations where everyone wants him to lose, no one gives a fuck about that shit! And everyone wants to cheer him because his shit would work so much better as a fucking heel! None of this means the audience 'doesn't understand' why they actually like Roman Reigns! EVERYONE IS FUCKING SICK OF THEM TRYING TO MAKE ROMAN HAPPEN FOR LIKE FOUR YEARS!
Why has he been hated in, say, year one though? Sure, I get it - people are tired of whatever happening for four years, but that doesn't excuse the Year One hate. Roman Year One. Like it's a damn Batmang.
It can all be tracked down to the fragility and small stature of Little Danny Bryan and his following. And this is coming from someone who legitimately enjoyed Bryan. You can almost get a 1:1 balance of people who hate Roman but want Bryan to wrestle again and die in the ring. For their entertainment!
This pretty much covers it, but I will add that I wasn't nearly as in tune with what's happening with wresting a few years ago as I am now and for the most part I missed Bryan's ascension and entirely missed the Shield storyline/breakup between manias (30 and 31 I think). I can't speak to why other people feel some way about reigns, but personally my issues with his presence have nothing to do with that.It's true though. Everyone is engaged with him during his matches, just like they are with Cena matches. That match with KO had no chants for KO. Everyone was chanting for or against Roman. Which is a lot lot better than no reaction like Carmella gets. Fucking Philly, the smarkiest cunt town in the country, popped for Roman and chanted you deserve it for his title win at the end of last year because they liked how he was booked for that show (as a total bad ass). In fact, crowds are clearly dying for a reason to cheer for Roman based on how having him go on a rampage works EVERY SINGLE TIME. It's not Roman's fault they book him like Hogan instead of Goldberg.That's exactly why it isn't true though! No one is chanting "YOU CAN'T WRESTLE" at roman. Smarks don't hate him because they think he's bad at wrestling. Everyone hates him because of the fucking booking! Like, yeah, duh, it isn't his fault, but he still gets booked like motherfucking Superman! Are people supposed to be like "Oh, well he's gone over for three years even though everyone has booed the fuck out of him, but that's okay because he doesn't actually get to dictate his own schedule"? No! He constantly goes over in situations where everyone wants him to lose, no one gives a fuck about that shit! And everyone wants to cheer him because his shit would work so much better as a fucking heel! None of this means the audience 'doesn't understand' why they actually like Roman Reigns! EVERYONE IS FUCKING SICK OF THEM TRYING TO MAKE ROMAN HAPPEN FOR LIKE FOUR YEARS!
Why has he been hated in, say, year one though? Sure, I get it - people are tired of whatever happening for four years, but that doesn't excuse the Year One hate. Roman Year One. Like it's a damn Batmang.
It can all be tracked down to the fragility and small stature of Little Danny Bryan and his following. And this is coming from someone who legitimately enjoyed Bryan. You can almost get a 1:1 balance of people who hate Roman but want Bryan to wrestle again and die in the ring. For their entertainment!
It can all be 'tracked down' to the WWE audience being tired of having people they don't want to cheer for being shoved down their throats. After years of Cena...they push another guy in the same way to the moon, but at least Cena could get mixed reactions and cut a promo, whereas Roman was pretty much universally-booed to the point that they were piping in cheers. :lol He was also shit on the mic. Not even the Rock coming out to give him some cred could save him.
Dude needs an appearance/gimmick change and a re-packaging. He was good in his role as the 'big man' in the Shield and should be doing something like that. In fact, I think he's doing better right now playing sidekick to Seth again.
I just realized Becky was Irish, yet I'm still surprised by just how Irish she is.
Hype Bros won a match to become #1 contender's to the Wyatt's tag title...and Ryder got injured in that match :(
http://www.wwe.com/shows/smackdown/2016-12-13/article/ryder-suffers-knee-injury Kneecap popping off sounds goddamn horrendous.
I believe it was WM32 people pointed to as having the boos turned down. Having been there, the actual boos were deafening. Out of that main event, Steph got the best reaction of the three :lol
Punching someone in the face is more awful than a theatrical elbow drop? :mindblown
Idk what the point you're trying to make is. He's flying through the air and punching a dude in the face.
I miss when wrestlers would do a taunt before the finishing move so you know it's over.
The People's Elbow is fine by me when it's used as an insult to injury type move. Don't really hate it as a finisher either because it reminds me of Warrior's Splash and Hogan's leg drop.
Some cool shit from the 1/4 dome shows in the late 90s:
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Some cool shit from the 1/4 dome shows in the late 90s:
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Savage and Rick Steiner? WCW let them over there for this?
Dirtsheet rumors are that AJ is going to turn face again next year.
I'm annoyed mostly because he'd be great as a face if they just change his character's allegiance instead of his character. WWE has a problem with making faces into total goobers, which I hope doesn't happen.
But dude kills it in matches so whatevs, wouldn't bother me too much.
Some cool shit from the 1/4 dome shows in the late 90s:
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Savage and Rick Steiner? WCW let them over there for this?
Macho was replacing Goldberg, and he was a freelancer. Steiner and Benoit were on the card as part of the WCW/NJPW working relationship, which was still a thing, but on its last legs. Chono and Fake Sting as Team 2000 would get sent over to WCW for a week right after this, and Muta would get sent over later in the year, and I think that's all the interaction the companies had left in their relationship.
Was Raw any good? Rumble build so I would imagine they're trying.
What I've seen of Bring It To the Table is that they get some wrestling fan to sit in front of a couple WWE folks and complain the usual internet complaints like "Why can't Raw just be 2 hours!" and then they explain the reality of the situation. They treat the dude like TRASH too, it's pretty enjoyable to see until he brings up a point you might have agreed with and you feel shame. I dig it. So far.
What I've seen of Bring It To the Table is that they get some wrestling fan to sit in front of a couple WWE folks and complain the usual internet complaints like "Why can't Raw just be 2 hours!" and then they explain the reality of the situation. They treat the dude like TRASH too, it's pretty enjoyable to see until he brings up a point you might have agreed with and you feel shame. I dig it. So far.
OK, I gotta watch this. :lol
CJ Parker vs Cody :leon Cody being a huge shittalking heel is the right way to use him. Match was pretty damn goodNo shit. I'll definitely hunt it down. No chance in hell I would have been awake for it, but my alarm for work went off while Twitter and Boots were giffing the main event so I don't need to watch it
Live giffing a show is the weirdest shit to me. You can't be paying attention to anything. Watch the show and do it later, dawg. You'll still get your retweets.If you wanna get popular, you sacrifice the match for being first. I get Boots' hustle. There's a point where I can't do it though, hah.
I'm excited to get brand new gifs of Scott Norton in 2017 :rejoice :rejoice :rejoice
Any truth to Kenny Omega being WWE-bound?don't bet on it, but I'm sure they're gonna make offers. He's signed through the next year so he can't jump ship.
Kenny's New Japan contract expires Jan 31 so he won't be at the Rumble for sure.
He's shit talked WWE a lot in the past, but hey that could be a work.
In my situation, I managed to convince my girlfriend to watch wrestling with me before we moved in together. When we did we made wrestling nights a thing. Now I am really disliking Raw overall but she uses the 3 hours as background noise while she does other things and actually likes a lot of the silly characters.
My girlfriend likes wrestling more than I do right now. I can't believe I managed to make that happen.
You guys don't ever have to watch. You can start a show enjoying it, then stop enjoying, and you can just shut it off. Or, you can just not tune in in the first place. I see this talk every single week, but fucks never stop watching. It's like the people who complain about The Walking Dead for 3 seasons instead of just dropping it because it's a shitty show. Surely there is something better to do for 3 hours on a Monday night than watch a show you dread, know you're not going to enjoy, and then not enjoy after you've spent 3 hours watching.pretty much. i only watch what i enjoy. smackdown is a fun show that i really like but i still skipped any main event that involved james ellsworth. raw is just a lost cause for me at this point, which is why i quit it altogether. i like jericho/owens and new day but anything good from them will be on youtube the next day so that's good enough for me.
You guys don't ever have to watch. You can start a show enjoying it, then stop enjoying, and you can just shut it off. Or, you can just not tune in in the first place. I see this talk every single week, but fucks never stop watching. It's like the people who complain about The Walking Dead for 3 seasons instead of just dropping it because it's a shitty show. Surely there is something better to do for 3 hours on a Monday night than watch a show you dread, know you're not going to enjoy, and then not enjoy after you've spent 3 hours watching.
Vince is emoticon worthy in everything he does. I'll use it, goddammit! He's probably the most gifable wrestling entity.\
I see a lot of money in Dunne. Very convincing cunt.
He's almost too convincing of a cunt. In that he seems like he might actually be a rapist.
Ziggler threatening to kill Lawler and Lawler being announced to call the Rumble sure sounds like Ziggler will get eliminated by Lawler in the Rumble. :/
I've seen some make the argument that we have a better number of in ring workers now then before but they also lacking charisma, character, psychology and booking. So it's all a wash.
Yeah, Cole is and has always been just there. Not offensive. Not great. Just there. Byron and Tom are both also just there. JBL is horrific, though. Dude has been absolute garbage since he came back. Mauro sucked the second he got comfortable and could let his cheesy ass self come out.
Cory/Tom is the best team right now for sure in WWE.
I really don't have any opinion of Michael Cole, but I think that Tom Phillips and Byron Saxton do very well. The internet has some sort of hate-on for Byron (mostly Simpsons fans, because they're terrible humans) but I find him completely serviceable and a good foil to JBL when he's around. Graves is top notch and has found his calling. They're in good hands with or without Cole. Cole needs a break!
Yeah, Cole is and has always been just there. Not offensive. Not great. Just there.
Mauro's line the day that the Trump piss stuff was revealed was hilarious though:
"AJ Styles first year in WWE has been golden, he's been showered with praise for his in ring performances" :rofl
Rumble 2000 was one of the best PPV's they did. The match quality wasn't super amazing, but the crowd was just lit up from the opener to the end, Angle getting murdered didn't hurt Angle's credibility a single iota (If anything it helped his growing "Obvlivious doofus" gimmick) and the intercontinental three way being slow and not great worked in the favour of the show since it slowed the pace down, but it didn't burn people out because it was short enough, the crowd was hot as fuck for Jericho who was booked smartly to get his shit in and take the title.
Have to watch it again some day. Thanks Stro.
Attitude Era embraced the Jerry Springer trash TV aspect well and it's still entertaining because of it. Most of the matches sucked and some of the segments were corny, but overall it was entertaining to watch. Unlike the slog we get on raw now for three hours a week.
Yeah, too many DQ/No contest matches back then, but I'm not going to act like this past era's seemingly endless 6 man tag main events and champion losing with no championship on the line matches is any better.
I'll still take Attitude Era WWF over most other eras of WWE. Rock N' Wrestling had great shit too but does suffer from a lack of good in ring workers aside from Jake The Snake and others. I've seen some make the argument that we have a better number of in ring workers now than before but they also lack charisma, character, psychology and booking. So it's all a wash.
And I'm not one of those Wrestling's good old days folks either. I just find that the Attitude Era's highs outweighs it's lows, but I do get not liking it as much as others because it was clearly aimed at teenage dudes.
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Attitude Era embraced the Jerry Springer trash TV aspect well and it's still entertaining because of it. Most of the matches sucked and some of the segments were corny, but overall it was entertaining to watch. Unlike the slog we get on raw now for three hours a week.
Yeah, too many DQ/No contest matches back then, but I'm not going to act like this past era's seemingly endless 6 man tag main events and champion losing with no championship on the line matches is any better.
I'll still take Attitude Era WWF over most other eras of WWE. Rock N' Wrestling had great shit too but does suffer from a lack of good in ring workers aside from Jake The Snake and others. I've seen some make the argument that we have a better number of in ring workers now than before but they also lack charisma, character, psychology and booking. So it's all a wash.
And I'm not one of those Wrestling's good old days folks either. I just find that the Attitude Era's highs outweighs it's lows, but I do get not liking it as much as others because it was clearly aimed at teenage dudes.
I guess I lack the sophistication to appreciate wrestling the way Stro and Sunflower do. I can see the difference between 'good' and 'bad' wrestling, but I also don't care nearly as much as either of those guys. In any case I appreciate the passion, and I trust and even will differ to both of their opinions as these are clearly two nerds who have dedicated way more time and thought on the subject than I ever will.
I turned Raw off after the first segment. Seems like I made the right call. :doge
Didn't catch SD. Wyatts are on the outs? :/ Again?
I'd be happy with no more Ziggler ever.
That'd be fine if they ever actually did anything with Orton, though. Dangit. What's the point?
This is SD though, so I can actually give them the benefit of the doubt. They actually might have a good reason.Didn't catch SD. Wyatts are on the outs? :/ Again?
Haven't really been following it, but there's tension between Orton and Harper. Harper accidentally hit Wyatt last week IIRC, so the storyline this week was that Bray set up the match for them to settle their differences. Orton won and then Wyatt gave Harper his finisher and celebrated with Orton.
LOL if Orton suddenly turns face and the reason given is "it was all a trick to destroy the family from within" or some nonsense. :lol
I'm QUITE positive that the Randy Wyatt thing has absolutely been the long con where, since Randy couldn't beat the family, he joined them to destroy the family from the inside by immediately causing tension between Bray and Luke, leading to Bray and Luke breaking apart, leaving Randy to finally have Bray 1 on 1. Bringing the title into that makes no fucking sense to me, though. It's not necessary in the least for that type of story.
AJ/Shane would be extremely disappointing. I wouldn't have wanted an AJ/Cena retread but does anyone really want AJ/Shane?
Don't exactly want AJ in a comedy match at Mania, we got three of them with Ellsworth in just these couple of months. Dude's been the highlight of most PPV's he's in so I'd rather he get a work rate match like Stro said.
Also, is Miz not planned for anything? He's been killing it lately, so hope he does have a match at WM.
Let's pretend Balor is cleared - not a win, obviously, but to kick off a feud. Who with?
Roman Reigns is fun to watch in the ring.:what
Reigns needs to be repackaged
I was definitely in the wrong comparing someone to the Wrasslegaf usuals. I'm sorry. Guilty as charged.
Bray Wyatt was earmarked for a title run in 2017 so that means that both he and Randy Orton are in contention for winning the Royal Rumble, with the other winning the WWE title at the Elimination Chamber PPV.
One of the backstage rumors currently making the rounds is that Orton would win the Rumble and Wyatt the Chamber match (and the championship), thereby setting up their title match at WrestleMania 33.
I liked Gargano and Chiampa/AoP more than I expected. I liked Nakamura Roode too but I saw some people on Reddit who were literally saying "this is a smarks fantasy booking wet dream, thank you WWE" last night and I gotta say I was just kinda confused by that and the "BIGGEST MONEY MATCH" hype they were attempting. Definitely weak compared to most Takeovers, though HHH basically admitted as much this week, no?
Yeah I was confused about the biggest money match hype they kept pushing. I don't think anyone had the thought of Roode vs Nakamura until they were both in NXT, and then it was as a lolrandom styles clash type of match. With all the build of "Roode won a random fatal four way to get a title shot and Nakamura made funny faces at him". Joe vs Nakamura was a dream match. Nakamura vs Balor in WWE I guess was a dream match. Nakamura vs Sami was a dream match. Nakamura vs Bobby Roode :neogaf
Made me really worry for Nakamura's main roster, weekly TV career, because he didn't mesh well at all with Roode's style, and that's about as close to the most basic of American TV style wrestling anyone can get.
Guess the Taker/Roman mania rumors are true, which is really disappointing
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Yeah, I do.Ah, gotcha. How avid a viewer are you? A third of the price of an annual sub for 4 events doesn't seem worth it to me, though I guess that's less than the price of individual PPVs
I sub one month for each of the big 4 PPVs. The back catalog doesn't interest me much at all.
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Word is it's not a work. Poor Seth. :fbm
John Cena & Nikki Bella vs. The Miz & Maryse. This is notable in a lot of ways. When this match came out, a ton of people internally were rolling their eyes about it. On one hand, it does feel like a waste for Cena, who was originally to face Undertaker, and there was also talk of Samoa Joe and others. But there is also a lot of talk that it would be Nikki Bella’s last match (there are reports of that but nobody we’ve asked about it internally either had any knowledge or confirmed it). If so, you can see her wanting to go out with her boyfriend at WrestleMania and see him maybe wanting that as well. Miz has done a great job of late and the Miz & Maryse couple are a near main event level act. With the storyline where Natalya pushed that “John will never marry you,” I keep thinking this could lead to a proposal, and if that’s the case, in the big picture, this match makes sense. I don’t know that’s the case. That would be a far bigger thing as far as something memorable than anything, even a great match with A.J. Styles, that Cena could be to the majority of fans.
I thought he was already a heel :smug
ADDED: Legends With JBL - Stan Hansen (02/07/2017) http://network.wwe.com/video/v1222707183
SD's commentary is horrific. Mauro's corny ass lines and looking like he wants to die when Tom Phillips speaks, Tom being there at all and randomly popping in for forced lines, JBL apparently forgetting how to speak English most of the time and randomly yelling nonsense, and Otunga's terrible delivery of everything. It's really, really bad.
Show lookin great. Awesome stuff.
I'll watch it if I can for the same reason. But based on SmackDown,, the show looks like a complete afterthought. Alexa vs. Naomi is going to be a fucking mess.
Fucking DYING when they loaded him in to the amberlamps and there was an ad for an upcoming Bon Jovi show on the arena sign.
How come my name is on this :tocry
Jericho gonna get a semi main event face run in 2017 over getting his name put on a list.
Fucking DYING when they loaded him in to the amberlamps and there was an ad for an upcoming Bon Jovi show on the arena sign.
Don't even remember who that is.
Oh and uh, what was that Emmalina thing? They just...didn't?
Some rumors about her gimmick being a throwback to Sable and The Kat but nobody could agree on how it worked so they dropped it. Not clear on whether Emma or creative decided it wasn't worth a shot.
WWE sources have confirmed that the company has abandoned their plans for the Emmalina gimmick and are turning back to the Emma character.
Ryan Satin of Pro Wrestling Sheet is reporting that officials decided to nix the idea after producers realized that "after multiple rehearsals, she couldn’t pull off what they were looking to accomplish." He adds that the character was supposed to be a throw-back to the likes of Sable and The Kat but that officials felt that Emma wasn't committing enough to the role.
One official told us that there was some internal debate on going back to the "Emma" name, especially if the character is to be an evil heel (as Emmalina is a better heel name), but that ultimately it was decided to save the name for perhaps another shot in the future.
Eva's planning ahead. She has a bright career in her next 5 years. After that, who knows.
Doesn't eva have some weird talentless bf leech that wwe hates or some shit?Yes, he's completely stupid and wholly awful. He's fun to watch.
Vader is working to get a HOF spot. Dude is all about posting shit, having it get picked up by the sheets/reddit/twitter, and then immediately deleting it and pretending like it never happened. About 2 months ago he said both that a second opinion said he was fine, and that DDP Yoga cured him.
They didn't do the collapsing ring spot even though they clearly teased it. Fuckers.
Imagine this.
Broken Hardys vs Day of the New
Vanguard 1 hijacks Francesca 2.
Imagine this.
Broken Hardys vs Day of the New
Vanguard 1 hijacks Francesca 2.
I was thinking more Broken vs. Wyatts.
I think the Wyatt's are split for now and they are going with the angle that Orton split them.
That SD ending segment was fucking awesome.
I miss goofy stuff like that.
Yo, for a hot minute I thought Corbyn was a repackaged Bo Dallas.
Turns out they're not the same person. :doge
Looks like Fast Lane was a dud. I checked out after the Sasha/Nia Jax match.
Strowman/Reigns was good. What's funny is the internet dumbfucks calling it "two inexperienced wrestlers" when Reigns is more than capable, and puts on good matches regularly.
So WM is
Taker vs Roman
Bayley vs Charlotte vs Sasha
Gallows and Anderson vs Cesaro and Sheamus
Brock vs Goldberg
Jericho vs Owens
What is raw gonna do for a month? Drag out replacing Seth with Finn against HHH?
There's no way for all of those to get a meaty, substantial match even with a 2 hour preshow.
That's true, but time wise that show is going to be a nightmare. You know Seth/HHH and Taker/Roman will be 40 minutes each with entrances and post match stuff. AJ/Shane will likely be twice as long as it needs to be as well.
Yeah, it shows that they have the utmost faith in him and are giving him the biggest thing they possibly can on the show. But it's still a gigantic waste of AJ. You have literally the best guy in the world on the biggest show in the world and it's with a 47 year old whose giant bump will be the focus of the match.Don't get me wrong, no doubt he could have a wonderful match with someone else, and we're missing that to do a Shane match. But I see the business behind the decision.
the internet digs their heels in and is continuing the feelings of #notmychampion and probably will forever. It's a shame.
the internet digs their heels in and is continuing the feelings of #notmychampion and probably will forever. It's a shame.
God forbid people resent having something that isn't working shoved down their throat for three plus years. Surely the best way to fix the issue of the top babyface getting loudly booed any time he's on TV is by having him beat Taker at Mania
They encourage you to boo Roman
crowds are clearly dying for a reason to cheer for Roman
According to Meltzer, Reigns winning the galactic championship off Lesnar is likely happening.
That will be his 3rd coronation. :teehee
Kairi Hojo has signed with WWE and should be heading to NXT in April. Are we gonna get a joshipuroresu feud going with her and Asuka?
OK, yeah, this might be better than Bork Laser.omg :rofl
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Ryback - still dumb as fuck. :lol
A lot of times people talk about how there’s no long-term planning but the WrestleMania 34 main event for April 8, 2018, which obviously could change, is set for Lesnar vs. Reigns for the Universal title.
That doesn’t necessarily mean Reigns is beating Undertaker or that Lesnar will have a full one year run as champion, although both could happen. I have no idea of what the finish will be of Undertaker vs. Reigns. The goal is very much to make Reigns the next Cena, which was the plan for Santa Clara two years ago, until they decided to delay it based on fan reaction.
The plan is to once again build for a year and have the big coronation at WrestleMania. The idea between now and then is for Reigns to be the face, not just when he wins the title, but to fully replace John Cena as the lead babyface of the company. How they’ll make that work is uncertain. They may just go with the idea that the fans that attend TVs and PPVs that boo Reigns are a minority of their worldwide audience and ignore the obvious crowd reaction. It’s hard to believe that in one year, considering it’s been more than two years since they’ve tried to change things, that the Santa Clara reaction of Lesnar being far and away the most popular wrestler on the show as the heel, and Reigns being even more far and away the most hated, even positioned as main event babyface, will change much with another year of attempting to convince fans Reigns is the guy.
I just checked wrestlewiththeplot after seeing you guys post and hooooolllyyyy fuckingggg christ. Asuka gotta burn that belt
Eagerly awaiting tonight's New Day segment.
Cena was fine. He played the straight man announcer role perfectly.
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I could have sworn the other guy sitting with him was Orton, but it wasn't, right? Was that Tyler Breeze?
I think my expectations for Southpaw were too high. I saw that teaser and hoped for matches, maybe 6 episodes that are a half hour long or more. Instead it was just promo work. Which is fine, whatever, but...I wanted some wrassles.
Cena was fine. He played the straight man announcer role perfectly.
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I could have sworn the other guy sitting with him was Orton, but it wasn't, right? Was that Tyler Breeze?
Fandango.
Tyler was The Banker.
I think my expectations for Southpaw were too high. I saw that teaser and hoped for matches, maybe 6 episodes that are a half hour long or more. Instead it was just promo work. Which is fine, whatever, but...I wanted some wrassles.
It would be fun to have some 80s parody style wrasslin' too, but that really wasn't the point of the whole thing.
When they have a network with hundreds upon hundreds of hours of 80s wrestling, then make a parody show laughing about how bad 80s wrestling was, it's already weird enough, imo. I mean, it's whatever, but WWE has consistently made some weird choices in regards to their vault footage. Like when they had HHH tell Booker that WCW was a joke, Booker agreed, then at WM King AND JR also agreed, then they bring in Goldberg the next night and want you to buy the WCW DVD a few months later.
So now you have goofs writing think pieces about how "spot on" SPRW was parodying 80s territory wrestling, which according to SPRW was low budget garbage you should laugh at. While WWE also wants you to watch 80s territory wrestling on the Network. Pick a side is all I'm saying, dawgs.
They already had a "lol90ssux *except attitude era*" show. It was called Are You Serious and starred Josh Matthews and Road Dogg MST3King shit.
i'm bummed that the smackdown women's match is just a battle royale. that shit is destined for the preshow :(
also i'm annoyed that there's no inter-brand matches other than the men's battle royale. even a brand vs brand tag match or something would be cool.
Which is really crazy considering how sick of Jericho everyone was for years up until the past few months.
Which is really crazy considering how sick of Jericho everyone was for years up until the past few months.
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He always comes back from his hiatuses and tries something new. Never seemed stale to me.
Really fascinating how hard American Alphas have dropped off. 25% of the crowd didn't like them, 25% didn't care either way. For me personally, I stopped giving a shit about them after the GREAT match at Takeover Dallas because they went full blown video game bullshit immediately after that match and it was basically like watching a video game version of Kurt Angle in tag team form from that point on. They settled into their formula and that's that. And crowds just don't care. It's basically like SD in 2003 trying to pretend that WGTT were top level stars despite doing nothing to convince you of it.
I'm still under the delusion Asuka will be a surprise entrant after she loses the title to Ember Moon at Takeover. I'm know I'm getting my hopes up for nothing.Oh damn I hadn't even thought of that. Now I'm also gonna get excited for nothing lol.
Really fascinating how hard American Alphas have dropped off. 25% of the crowd didn't like them, 25% didn't care either way. For me personally, I stopped giving a shit about them after the GREAT match at Takeover Dallas because they went full blown video game bullshit immediately after that match and it was basically like watching a video game version of Kurt Angle in tag team form from that point on. They settled into their formula and that's that. And crowds just don't care. It's basically like SD in 2003 trying to pretend that WGTT were top level stars despite doing nothing to convince you of it.
That being said, Usos vs Alpha on SD was fan fucking tastic. And rightful winners, the Usos, who I absolutely love ever since they turned heel. I just love it. They're naturals. Fuck the face-painting siva dances.
These Miz and Maryse segments parodying Total Bellas are great. :roflhttps://streamable.com/b2wso
:sabu :sabu :sabu :sabu :sabuThese Miz and Maryse segments parodying Total Bellas are great. :roflhttps://streamable.com/b2wso
The Cena/Miz thing is really dumb. Centering the feud around a show that is expliclity about the real lives of fake wrestlers has been dumb since Total Divas started, but now it's extra dumb because you have Cena doing multiple promos on the fake show point by point destroying Miz's gimmick, yet you're supposed to still buy this as a "real" feud on the fake show rgekljdvasmnkldvsfldvfskl
And you have that on the same show where a dude desecrated a body and burned down a house to destroy a supernatural power source. I just want some consistency is all. Either go all out with goofy shit, or all in with shooty shit.
The Cena/Miz thing is really dumb. Centering the feud around a show that is expliclity about the real lives of fake wrestlers has been dumb since Total Divas started, but now it's extra dumb because you have Cena doing multiple promos on the fake show point by point destroying Miz's gimmick, yet you're supposed to still buy this as a "real" feud on the fake show rgekljdvasmnkldvsfldvfskl
And you have that on the same show where a dude desecrated a body and burned down a house to destroy a supernatural power source. I just want some consistency is all. Either go all out with goofy shit, or all in with shooty shit.
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Because if I'm watching a normal TV show and the actors turn to the camera to break character and bitch about the producers giving them shitty lines, it kind of ruins the whole show unless the whole show is like that.
The Cena/Miz thing is really dumb. Centering the feud around a show that is expliclity about the real lives of fake wrestlers has been dumb since Total Divas started, but now it's extra dumb because you have Cena doing multiple promos on the fake show point by point destroying Miz's gimmick, yet you're supposed to still buy this as a "real" feud on the fake show rgekljdvasmnkldvsfldvfskl
And you have that on the same show where a dude desecrated a body and burned down a house to destroy a supernatural power source. I just want some consistency is all. Either go all out with goofy shit, or all in with shooty shit.
The Cena/Miz thing is really dumb. Centering the feud around a show that is expliclity about the real lives of fake wrestlers has been dumb since Total Divas started, but now it's extra dumb because you have Cena doing multiple promos on the fake show point by point destroying Miz's gimmick, yet you're supposed to still buy this as a "real" feud on the fake show rgekljdvasmnkldvsfldvfskl
And you have that on the same show where a dude desecrated a body and burned down a house to destroy a supernatural power source. I just want some consistency is all. Either go all out with goofy shit, or all in with shooty shit.
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Because if I'm watching a normal TV show and the actors turn to the camera to break character and bitch about the producers giving them shitty lines, it kind of ruins the whole show unless the whole show is like that.
Is it too much to ask for narratives to be tonally and thematically consistent :uguu
Is it too much to ask for narratives to be tonally and thematically consistent :uguu(https://media.giphy.com/media/6XHWT7J5mAda0/giphy.gif)
It's 2010. It's Wrestlemania. On stage are Bob Uecker and Antonio Inoki chatting it up while standing next to Gorgeous George's widow. At the end of the stage is Bruce Hart wearing jeans and sunglasses.Inoki showed at 2010?! Whuh?!
Eva Marie released. That's a shame, she was an awesome heat magnet despite not being good in the ring.
They had The Goddamn Undertaker say it. THE UNDERTAKER.
I fucking hate the "Ultimate Thrill Ride" shit. I hate that it has to be shoe-horned into every single segment.
They had The Goddamn Undertaker say it. THE UNDERTAKER.
Yeah, but the actual set is a functional roller coaster. Shit will be hot. Pretty sure the whole thing was a clever way to get Taker to the ring faster, tbh.
Yeah, but the actual set is a functional roller coaster. Shit will be hot. Pretty sure the whole thing was a clever way to get Taker to the ring faster, tbh.man i went to the wrong wrestlemania. stupid wedding :maf
In defense of WWE, more women will be a part of this Wrestlemania than any previous I can remember. They're all getting a paycheck and that's pretty cool.
In defense of WWE, more women will be a part of this Wrestlemania than any previous I can remember. They're all getting a paycheck and that's pretty cool.
For sure. I still remember S1 of Total Divas where the women's match was cut, and they'd try to do a Battle Royale to get everyone a payday. Now there's more meaning, and they all get paid.
Fine with women's SD being on Preshow. It's a mess of a match, and perfect for a preshow. I'd blame the booking for not having a simpler women's match but they don't have a story worth a shit going on down there. Dana Brooke needs to get to SD ASAP to fix that division.Yeah its a mess but if it ends with Naomi getting her title back I'll be happy. It was awesome to see how the crowd exploded for her yesterday.
My hype levels are super low. I only care about Roman vs. Undertaker just to see how many boos Roman gets. :fbm
The Roman/Taker vid from Raw has anywhere from 1 to 3+ million more hits than anything else from Raw or Smackdown. It clearly has the most interest and heat and should def end the show. The KO/Jericho segment has 150K views. Lol.
Is there any truth to Rollins being sick and possibly missing his Mania match again? Holy shit if true. The guy is cursed.starting to think storyline hhh is right. this rollins dude is a chump.
I'm pretty sure axxess is the least smarky and most kid friendly event of mania weekend but ok
I'm pretty sure axxess is the least smarky and most kid friendly event of mania weekend but ok
Yeah, because tons of kids and casual families drop hundreds/thousands to fly across the country to get autographs. WM is the hardest of hardcores and rich casuals. Booking Progress and ICW on Axxess was totally for the kids.
Hopefully there is never another Roode/Nak match. These guys have ZERO chemistry.
Fucking DIED as the lady security guard trying to stop Gronk because she thought he was actually just a fan hopping the railing.
Becky cosplaying as the main character from Horizon Zero Dawn. :hulk
Boos are clearly not getting muted. The crowd has been there for almost 7 hours.
Boring. :zzz
The show fell off a cliff after the Hardyz
Ramen wins :zzz He acted heelish during the match, which was smart.
What was that brief dialogue exchange at the end there, I wonder?
Is it just that I'm older now or is wrestling really shitty now? Even HHH's entrance was lame in comparison to the past few years. I couldn't even laugh at it like I did the terminator shit.
Hardys being hired on the strength of Broken Brilliance only to be brought back as...2001 Hardy Boys is mind boggling.
STEPHANIE OFF TV FOR AWHILE
ANGLE NEW GM
THIS IS THE BEST EPISODE OF RAW IN AGESHardys being hired on the strength of Broken Brilliance only to be brought back as...2001 Hardy Boys is mind boggling.
Aren't they still mired in that lawsuit with TNA? They might be waiting for that to clear up before they can go ahead with it.
crowd wasn't as hot as they normally are.
NAKAMURA IS FEUDING WITH THE MIZ
I WANT OFF THIS RIDE
Lmao stro is the best gimmick poster ever
Also, Dosukebe, I think it's happening. Can't help it. People wanna love AJ. Now it's time for them to give a reason to.
So I'm watching Joey Janelas Sprang Break because FloSlam hasn't figured you simple flash grabber extensions can access their content that's locked behind a paywall. This is maybe the worst thing I've seen since I watched one of the IWA DS deathmatch shows. Excalibur is doing commentary and constantly bitching about FloSlam's production people and hoping cops shut the show down so he can go home, they have DOORS instead of tables I presume because doors were too expensive, you can't see anything that happens outside of the ring which is great for a falls count anywhere match that spends half the match in the stands. It's amazing.
https://legitshook.squarespace.com/strobogos-wrasslin-potpourri-reviews/2017/3/30/joey-janelas-spring-break
It's so hilariously bad. Excalibur calls the show and makes it hilarious most of the time, though. He has some incredible calls. This show features Scott Hall as a genie, a battle royal called the Clusterfuck that includes the Invisible Man and Glacier, Marty Jannetty vs Joey Janela with a run ins from Earl Hebner and Virgil, Dan Severn in the main event, and like 8 DOORS being broken instead of tables.
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Reading that WWE is doing their best to keep the roster switches a big secret this time and that the talent don't know where they're headed, either. Isn't that how it always is?
Seems to be set that AJ is headed to Raw, though, and that Nakamura will take his place as a top babyface on SD. Nobody seems to know if Reigns is moving over for sure or not.
And then rumors are that Charlotte AND Sasha are going to SD, with Alexa and someone else (Becky?) taking their place on Raw.
And wow, people are really coming out now to call JBL a big asshole for his childish behavior and bullying. Mauro is done with WWE. I loved Meltzer saying how hypocritical the Be A Star people are, knowing the shit that goes on in the WWE, but keeping their association with them anyway. :lol
The thing is, everyone has known about JBL being a piece of shit for 20 years. None of these stories are new or anything. People treating it like saying mean things to a guy with a mental issue is as bad or worse than threatening to rape dudes for years. If Mauro was just a regularly, mentally healthy guy, this would be such a non story, just like all the other times.
Even Dave's reasoning for doing the story was because he saw a handicapped kid get into a fight in 5th grade and didn't do anything about it. So in his mind, he's seeing Mauro as this special kid who can't defend himself, and even then he outright said he didn't blame JBL, but the culture of the company and higher ups. While also calling JBL a gutless coward. And then saying he didn't want to run the story and wasn't going to run it until people basically begged him to because if he didn't no one would, but he was content to not run it for the same reasons Coach will no longer do wrestling segments, yet feels like he has the high ground to talk shit about that for some reason.
Well Be A Star is a WWE creation, so it's not like it's some serparate charity, so there's nothing they would do besides disappear if WWE wanted to. But I digress.
The thing is, everyone has known about JBL being a piece of shit for 20 years. None of these stories are new or anything. People treating it like saying mean things to a guy with a mental issue is as bad or worse than threatening to rape dudes for years. If Mauro was just a regularly, mentally healthy guy, this would be such a non story, just like all the other times.
Even Dave's reasoning for doing the story was because he saw a handicapped kid get into a fight in 5th grade and didn't do anything about it. So in his mind, he's seeing Mauro as this special kid who can't defend himself, and even then he outright said he didn't blame JBL, but the culture of the company and higher ups. While also calling JBL a gutless coward. And then saying he didn't want to run the story and wasn't going to run it until people basically begged him to because if he didn't no one would, but he was content to not run it for the same reasons Coach will no longer do wrestling segments, yet feels like he has the high ground to talk shit about that for some reason.
Well, WWE and Be A Star, there's a great amount of irony there. Probably what Meltzer was meaning. They're not like, an outside group to my knowledge. Now I gotta make sure.
"WWE's anti-bullying initiative"
Yep
He sucks because he sucks, yes. But that goes to show that he doesn't need to be treated with kid gloves because he's bipolar. Dude used to get fucked on opium and valium before mouthing off to Yakuza members and trying double legs on fighters in Japan.
That entire segment where Braun beat the shit out of Roman. :delicious
They are building up Strowman for Lesnar, but Strowman is on track to have a match with Reigns at Payback first. But we can see from Bray being moved to Raw, but still talking about Orton, that PPV matches already set up are still going to happen.I was reading that the SD title will be defended on Payback, a Raw PPV, since Bray is Raw now. :lol
Braun 100% tipped that ambulance for real and I won't hear otherwise.
Also, the Shibata brain thing was a work. :neogaf What a weird thing to work, though. Gedo got me.
Fucking lol at how fall American Alpha have fallen. Silent reaction, Gable Sucks chants, second decisive loss to the Usos, getting laid out by the SHINING STARS.
KO may end up back on Raw.
I just read that Balor got a concussion last night and may be out again.
:neogaf
Smackdown's womens division is in dire straits. They should have at least kept Mickie over on SD. Feel bad for Becky, she deserves better.
An update on the situation with Katsuyori Shibata. Unfortunately the news appears to be very bad and that the injuries are not storyline. This is not 100 percent because there are many situations historically where this could be just storyline or a cover for something else, but it appears this is the case and that a combination of dehydration and the trauma of the legitimately skull-on-skull head-butt hospitalized him and at this point it is believed he will never be cleared to wrestle. He is currently in the hospital and is awake, can carry on a conversation, has some memories of the match itself. He initially had some right side paralysis but that is getting better.
I thought AJ/Okada from the opening night of G1 2014 was the moty, but the Suzuki match was close. AJ been da gawd for 3 years running now :whew
Officially done?
How was Raw? Strowman bring the fun? I heard he threw Kalisto in the trash :lolhttps://streamable.com/ob9s9
How was Raw? Strowman bring the fun? I heard he threw Kalisto in the trash :lolhttps://streamable.com/ob9s9
Can it really get worse than Orton vs Bray?
A Jinder Mahal vs. Randy Orton feud makes PERFECT sense. It's what the people want.
You know what, fuck it, put the title on Jinder. Why not? It worked out for JBL outta nowhere in 2004. Randy has been 100% half assing it since his last injury so what's the worst that can happen? Can it really get worse than Orton vs Bray?
I'm trying to get through the 45th anniversary NJ show and man, it's basically a Road To... show even with the title changes. It's always been weird to me that NJ doesn't get more shit for 70% of any given card being clear filler where everyone involved is half assing it. It's been that way for a long, long, long time. Well over a decade.
You know what, fuck it, put the title on Jinder. Why not? It worked out for JBL outta nowhere in 2004. Randy has been 100% half assing it since his last injury so what's the worst that can happen? Can it really get worse than Orton vs Bray?
I'm trying to get through the 45th anniversary NJ show and man, it's basically a Road To... show even with the title changes. It's always been weird to me that NJ doesn't get more shit for 70% of any given card being clear filler where everyone involved is half assing it. It's been that way for a long, long, long time. Well over a decade.
Yknow, good for Jinder. I saw his Talking Smack promo from the previous week where he said he's on fire, nobody can out-train him or out-diet him, he's in the best shape of his life.
And now he's headlining a PPV. Good for you Jinder.
Who cares what the reason is? It's an interesting development regardless of the reasoning.
I assume Bollywood Boyz got dropped because it's hard to have them be taken seriously with that name while they dance and talk about butter chicken beat downs. I could have SWORN one of them showed up on Impact in the last few months though.
I listened to Alvarez trying to hinder Jinder. What a tool. Basically running with the PROTECT DA BIZ shit in 2017 because a jobber was even in a match to get a title shot, while completely ignoring the other 5 guys in the match had no business being in it either. Weird how he singled out the one brown guy in the match :trumps
Complain about Jinder Mahal being in a multi man number one contender match because he's a jobber, yet be cool with Mojo, Ziggler, and Rowan being in it. :beli Remember how just the week before on SD, Sami Zayn lost a number one contender match for the SECONDARY championship? He definitely deserved to be in the match, brehs.
I mean, I don't think Jinder is that good either
The idea of Jinder being in the match at all really reinforces that "land of opportunity" theme of Smackdown. That coming over to SD means you have a clean slate and a chance to prove yourself. Jinder being in the match and winning it has done more for that idea that basically anything since August.
Sure, OK, we get some jobber-level guys getting pushes. Yay...?
I'm actually OK with Jinder, but Mojo? Bleh. I suspect Jinder will just end up getting fed to Orton anyway.
Well, duh. It's clearly just a filler program. It probably won't even be a PPV match.
Mojo is fine now. He's improved a lot. Not great or anything, but I don't get angry when I see him on my screen anymore.
Kalisto has nice new ring gear,
It's funny that they address Ambrose and Jericho teaming but not Rollings and Balor. They REALLY don't want us to hear Balor talk. He's just the cool guy with the leather jacket.
People are going to be booing the shit out of him in a year IMO.
I can basically ignore WWE outside of YouTube clips until SummerSlam. :rock
I turned off SD after that terrible, terrible, TERRIBLE opening promo with Ziggler and Nakamura where Ziggler compared him to Michael Jackson in the creepy freak probably a pedo way instead of great artist way, rambled about The Simpsons, and then Nak spoke overly exaggerated Japanese to WHAT chants.
The Ziggler/Nakamura promo was horrific.
Congrats, WWE. I no longer care about Nakamura. Guess I'll rewatch his WK match with AJ a million times to ease the pain. :'(
The Ziggler/Nakamura promo was horrific.
Congrats, WWE. I no longer care about Nakamura. Guess I'll rewatch his WK match with AJ a million times to ease the pain. :'(
Why watch that when you could watch Nak vs Ibushi the year before :lawd Legit ass the best match of a generation. All time classic. Both AJ and Nak had better matches with Okada and Tanahashi in 2014-2015. Not to say AJ/Nak wasn't a blast to watch.
So.. bray just never gets a return match cause he went to Raw ???
So.. bray just never gets a return match cause he went to Raw ???
WWE today announced the name of its other July pay-per-view.
It is called WWE Great Balls of Fire.
Great. Balls. Of. Fire.
Wrestling has had plenty of clumsy and silly names over the years, from December to Dismember to Insurrextion to Taboo Tuesday to In Your House 7: Good Friends, Better Enemies. But this one is so bad it’s good. One: It has the word “balls” in it. Two: It is named after a 1957 Jerry Lee Lewis song. Three: Undoubtedly, the official song of WWE Great Balls of Fire will not be “Great Balls of Fire.”
Roman is the best main event face WWE has had since Bret Hart.
On the other hand, Roman/Braun was EXCELLENT. Roman is the best main event face WWE has had since Bret Hart. That shit was a masterful performance last night. I genuinely can't believe fans still won't give him his daps.
Please, I don't hate him at all nor am I some weirdo Bryan stanley who thought he should have won the rumble that year either. Roman is straight up boring. Boring moveset, boring character, boring matches, boring feuds, boring. Nothing about him stands out other than the fact that he's pushed. Which either has weirdo smarks care enough to boo him or above it all anti-smarks want to cheer him because fuck smarks.
Roman has only been good when:
-He was protected in the Shield
-Had that one match with Bryan at Fastlane
-Is being beaten to hell by a heel
Other than that he's flopped as a face. Got no charisma, hasn't evolved his moveset at all. He's popular in the same sense that Cena is popular, except to a much lesser degree. He never had the honeymoon period where he was genuinely liked. He went directly from Shield to being jammed down our throats and immediately fell on his face.
Honestly, the best case you can make for Cena is that he's been around long enough to have good moments.
On the other hand, Roman/Braun was EXCELLENT. Roman is the best main event face WWE has had since Bret Hart. That shit was a masterful performance last night. I genuinely can't believe fans still won't give him his daps.
Guys, Bryan is fucking dead cause of Bryan. I'd argue he may have never entirely adapted to WWE style/schedule and worked too damn hard. When he last came back they paired him with Kane to feud, much to the outrage of many a smarky smark, but that was cause Kane is one of the safest workers they have, and D Bry still did lots of self smashy shit and had to stop anyway. Hell, I love Daniel, he was one of the best wrestlers to come along in year and even got the mic/persona shit down big time, but he's dead cause he killed himself.
You know that if Shibata can wrestle again, he and Bryan will have a match. And most likely, they'll at least tease a headbutt spot because you can always count on a pro wrestler to tempt fate.
wait wtf? what happened to braun? :maf
A one handed match? :lol Vince please.
Guess that means SD is pretaped too? I don't mind the shows in the UK but every year they have to make the same jokes about tea and the Queen and put on fake accents and it's awful.
http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/article/braun-strowman-undergoes-surgery?sf78971426=1
Strowman out 6 months
-- According to f4wonline.com, while Braun Strowman did undergo elbow surgery, WWE's claim that he will be out "up to six months" is a work.
-- With that said, it's likely that Strowman's elbow also isn't "shattered" as WWE claims and with the wording that he would be out "up to" six months, the original timetable of 1-2 months is probably still accurate. Either way, he is out for "Extreme Rules" in June and very likely, "Great Balls of Fire" in July.
I flipped it on for a quick minute and saw Goldust beating up R Truth while the crowd chanted "Thank you Goldust"
i only tune in to see alexa tbh
EDIT: Posted this before I saw those Alexa gifs :heartbeat
It's unfortunate that the Welcoming Committee has to have Carmella on it, but it's a small roster so what can you do?
Why is post Mania time always the weakest?Load is blown. Gotta recuperate. Summerslam usually gets hot.
I feel like there is more stuff going on now than during WM season, which was pretty terrible television overall. Like, probably the weakest lead up to a WM in years. I guess that's bound to happen when your two main matches are with guys who only show up on TV every few weeks.
Jinder won? Sweet.
Meanwhile the best wrestler in the company lost due to count out because he got caught in an announce table. :doge
Meltzer is real mad about Asuka beating Goldberg's record. :doge
Meltzer is real mad about Asuka beating Goldberg's record. :dogeCheck this salt
Meltzer is real mad about Asuka beating Goldberg's record. :doge
I got as far as the horrendous "This is your life" segment with Bliss/Bayley, and that was more than enough to cut it off.
And this was the go-home show for the PPV. :lol
I got as far as the horrendous "This is your life" segment with Bliss/Bayley, and that was more than enough to cut it off.
And this was the go-home show for the PPV. :lol
Oh you didn't finish it? You don't know how far down it can go! It was pretty bad.
Naturally a lot of people got upset they insulted wrasslin' fans. "Why would you insult your viewers?" easy answer, because they keep fucking coming back, again and again, and again, and again
I got as far as the horrendous "This is your life" segment with Bliss/Bayley, and that was more than enough to cut it off.
And this was the go-home show for the PPV. :lol
Oh you didn't finish it? You don't know how far down it can go! It was pretty bad.
I stopped watching Wrestling a while ago mostly because there's way too much wrestling going on. For me to keep up is to sacrifice a bunch of my other interests.
I stopped watching Wrestling a while ago mostly because there's way too much wrestling going on. For me to keep up is to sacrifice a bunch of my other interests.
The commercial for it on SD last night featured Sasha Banks and it made me laugh. How has WWE not managed to make even one of these dudes marketable?
They almost had it for Gallagher but then they made him do the umbrella jump thing for every match and people stopped caring.
I stopped watching Wrestling a while ago mostly because there's way too much wrestling going on. For me to keep up is to sacrifice a bunch of my other interests.
Realistically, I think she might be about done. She's lost something pretty major and I don't know if she can get it back.
imagine a 325 Live where only big folks wrassle.
WWE could have NXT as a brand with KENTA, Chris Hero, Tommy End, La Sombra, Neville, Tyler Bate, Pete Dunne, Asuka, Athena, Nikki Storm, Ciampa, Gargano, Akira Tozawa, Cedric Alexander, Austin Aries (if you absolutely have to, I guess), Jack Gallagher, Máscara Dorada, Rich Swann, Spanky, Drew McIntyre, Roderick Strong, and Biff Busick. Instead, you've got them all spread out across 3 different "brands", while filling in the gaps with shitbirds like Eric Young, TJP, those bland dudes from Australia/NOAH, and the ultimate euro cunt piece of shit Noam Dar.
I stopped watching Wrestling a while ago mostly because there's way too much wrestling going on. For me to keep up is to sacrifice a bunch of my other interests.
I have nothing but time, but I just got realized that for the last couple years I've been waiting for some kind of 'oh shit' moment, or some angle that's actually interesting and not incredibly predictable, and that probably isn't happening anytime soon. It got to the point where watching just felt like homework
I did the same around the godawful "Ruthless Aggression" era only to be reeled back by the Pipe bomb. At this point there's youtube and shit where if a big, cool thing does happen it'll probably be linked in this thread. So at least the internet is advanced enough where I can look up good moments when they happen and I actually start giving a damn again.
What it boils down to is that WWE is doing what they think is best. A lot of people (enough to continue funding the company?) agree and watch. I don't and don't watch for the most part. Their product is fine but not for me.
Yall missed Heel Batista's monster run. It was the best thing.
Yall missed Heel Batista's monster run. It was the best thing.
Only vaguely remember this, but I remember some good promos. I miss Big Dave.
If you came in from the pipe bomb promo (the second one he did, the WWE one he rehashed) - I'm sorry the rest of everything was kinda crap. It was a rough time. Not as rough as a year or two before, but hey.
Yall missed Heel Batista's monster run. It was the best thing.
I know the pipe bomb was a rehash of the ROH one.
And from what I know Batista's monster heel run lasted like a month, so if it was that good it didn't last long like everything in WWE.
My mistake. I was under the impression he only did it for a little while before facing Cena at Mania.
SPOTLIGHT, PLEASE :bowYall missed Heel Batista's monster run. It was the best thing.
Only vaguely remember this, but I remember some good promos. I miss Big Dave.
Let me feed you!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zAzSHKscApM
I legit went from watching BOTSJ 2017 to a show from MSG 40 years prior and enjoyed the MSG show a lot, lot more, despite it not being particularly good wrestling. Some of it was actually quite bad. But it was nice to see matches without stand offs and cartwheels out of headlocks or apron bumps because that's just what you're supposed to do to have an exciting match now. An era where Freddie Blassie can get Roman Reigns heat just taking his time to leave the ring before the match. Where no one complains about who is getting pushed or who is getting berried.
Just a simple wrestling show.
Bray Wyatt's wife, Samantha Rotunda, has filed for divorce in Florida accusing the WWE performer of adultery and misdeeds, according to the Daily Mail. Rotunda's lawyer names current WWE ring announcer Jojo Offerman as the person who Wyatt is having an affair with.
-- In his counter-petition for divorce filed in Hernando County, Wyatt requested an injunction to force his wife to keep quiet about the split. He claims she made 'defamatory statements about the husband to several people in the community in an effort to ruin his reputation.'
-- In Samantha's response to Bray's request for an injunction she says: 'It is a shame that the Husband would make such false claims and attempt such media gaming. Ms. Rotunda will not only prove Husband's allegation and claims are nothing more than a media ploy and endeavor to create an offense to defend his adultery and misdeeds.
-- According to Samantha's divorce petition, she and Wyatt were married in 2012 and separated in March after Wyatt allegedly walked out on her and their two daughters, 6 and 4.
Maybe now people will realize that his ratings are just one man's arbitrary and inconsistent opinions and people shouldn't take them seriously unless they have the same taste as him
It's okay, you get to see him fail on his own. He's a lot better than he was, but breaking up Enzo and Cass is like poison to the both of them.
Now what's lil Enzo gonna do?
The Enzo/Cass segment at the end was fucking garbage. I don't know how anyone can claim Cass is good in the mic. He sucks. His delivery sucks, he's awkward, he stumbles over his words. He repeats himself constantly. Dude's reading from a script. The whole thing was stupid and boring.
Is anyone hyped for the G1 special at Long Beach? I won't have to get up at 4 AM to watch Kenny Omega wrestle. :rock
Tanahashi vs. Billy Gunn, though. :goty2
Is anyone hyped for the G1 special at Long Beach? I won't have to get up at 4 AM to watch Kenny Omega wrestle. :rockI'm going with my brother and dad. My dad's gonna be fucking stoked to see Billy Gunn in 2017 :sabu
Tanahashi vs. Billy Gunn, though. :goty2
i guess i'm the ultimate smark but I got really fed up with wrestling last mania and just recently discovered my cable package has NJPW and it's greatIs anyone hyped for the G1 special at Long Beach? I won't have to get up at 4 AM to watch Kenny Omega wrestle. :rock
Tanahashi vs. Billy Gunn, though. :goty2
Meeeeeeee. Been really liking NJPW since I finally got AXS.
What's the story on Austin Aries? Why is he not liked?
Obnoxious asshole with a Napoleon complex who gets fired from every where he goes, which is why he's been in and out of TNA/ROH 4-5 times a piece.
Fuck it, toss all four of those dudes in the ring together. That'd be a battle to watch.
All those shots of Angle during that segment had me laughing my ass off.
Alright, these gifs are pulling me back in
And notice how big his fucking lifts are, too
The people shitting on Jason Jordan as Kurt's son angle specifically because JJ is black can get fucked.
I started watching the Network interview with Jason and Kurt and turned it off after a couple of minutes. It was kind of awkward and cringe-worthy. I will give props to both of them for seeming legit into the angle-- Kurt was absolutely beaming about connecting with his "son."
I can also see this just bombing and nobody caring, but if they do it right, it could help propel Jason Jordan to stardom. Personally I think he should be a heel along with a heel Kurt as his manager/mouthpiece. But I'm sure he'll be the face and they'll probably have Chad Gable come in as his opponent instead.The people shitting on Jason Jordan as Kurt's son angle specifically because JJ is black can get fucked.
Who is doing that? ???
It's been about a year since the brand split, when do we get another Draft? Those are always fun.
Maybe 20% of anything in American wrassles has been a hit. Take the hottest eras and the majority of it is still dog shit. People seem to not understand that WWE isn't and hasn't been written to be watched every week since at least the start of 3 hour/guest host era. That's why angles go on forever and repeat weekly, and all the rematches for what seems like months on end, as well as the constant recaps of what happened last week or the past 3 weeks. WWE shows are written for people who only watch once a month to get caught up for the PPV, or newcomers, who can be brought up to speed within one show.
Of course watching every week is going to make you miserable. But it should be noted that the loudest anti-WWE guy in Wrasslegaf, who insists that WWE will be going out of business in 5 years and can't go more than 2 posts without mentioning it, watches every week and actually went out of his way to find Raw while on vacation in Italy.
Yeah, I was watching last night and man is Smackdown just shitting all over Raw. Way better roster now. Bet that won't last long. :doge
I wishAlexa Bliss's assAlexa Bliss was still on SD. I like her...Bailey and Sasha are stale as fuck now and the Raw women's side just sucks with the focus kept on the same 2-3 people.
I'm editing a wrestling book right now (a great excuse to subject myself to this trash again). The one thing I learned today is that when Hogan was in Rocky III, he wasn't famous yet. I probably could have figured that out if I looked at dates.
Depends on how you define famous. He was already huge in Japan and had just come off of a year long, well selling feud with Andre in 1980, had done TV with Lou Ferrigno, and had exploded in AWA before Rocky III came out.
There are reports that WWE is considering the idea of having another Superstar Shakeup following SummerSlam, likely in the fall timeframe.
The first Shakeup earlier this year initially led to great ratings but there was soon a big drop off as it is believed the movements led to less interesting rosters in general. It's possible the next Shakeup could be a way to rectify those changes.
Another change being talked about is to send one or more wrestlers from either Raw or Smackdown down to NXT. These wrestlers would be either those who were previously in NXT who Vince McMahon simply isn't going to push on the main roster or talent who are have no storylines but could end up being much more relevant on NXT as major players.
Source: Wrestling Observer Newsletter.
Nashville on July 17 was the site of a recent story when people from both WWE and GFW ended up at the same bar at night. GFW had meetings in Nashville, whereas WWE held Raw in the city.
The story involves Karen Jarrett and Braun Strowman with the report indicating that Karen approached Strowman for an autograph for her son, who is apparently a fan of Braun's. Strowman reportedly had no idea who Karen was and depending on what version you want to believe, either was rude to Karen or swore at her.
Karen didn't take to it kindly and "immediately cut a major loud promo" on Braun for blowing her off and during her tirade indicated that she would go and tell her son's father about this incident. Her ex-husband and son's father is none other than Kurt Angle.
When Strowman heard this, he was said to immediately change his tune and agreed to not only sign the autograph, but he was said to have "begged" Karen not to tell Kurt or anyone else. He also repeatedly apologized but Karen said she would still be telling Kurt about this so Strowman then reportedly said he'd get on his knees and beg.
As the story goes, Strowman did eventually get on his knees and begged her not to tell anyone in front of a lot of WWE wrestlers. Karen then said that even if Kurt was not the father of her son, he should not act like that to a mother who was simply asking for an autograph for her son and Strowman agreed and once again apologized.
Source: Wrestling Observer Newsletter
Also that post-SD bit might be a setup for Cena/Corbin? I'd be down to watch that for sure.
I was randomly thinking about Cesaro after seeing people STILL acting like he's the most held back talent ever and would be such a huge star back on the indies and in Japan. He was on the indies and worked in Japan. He wasn't pushed as a huge star then, either. In fact, the biggest push of his pre-WWE career came as...part of a tag team where he took on the personality and gimmick of his more established tag partner. PWG put the title on him before they really blew up, but no one else did.:trumps
If he's such an incredible talent and Vince just doesn't know how to book him, why is it that every other promoter in the world booked him the same way?
Cesaro is bland as hell. I never saw why he should ever get pushed. When your most popular move is swinging people around you're nothing but a novelty.
Cesaro is bland as hell. I never saw why he should ever get pushed. When your most popular move is swinging people around you're nothing but a novelty.
Cesaro is bland as hell. I never saw why he should ever get pushed. When your most popular move is swinging people around you're nothing but a novelty.
I don't even think the dude is bad, but that swinging thing is likely the dumbest move in WWE. Worse than even the superman punch.
You know how people say Vince should let him be himself and he'd get so over. Remember when he was himself and the gimmick/character he came up for himself was Swiss banker with terribly tacky suits who says HEY a lot?
Going to SummerSlam for free 8)That's a fair price for a modern day wwe ppv. :teehee Nah this is one of the big four so it should be a good time.
spoilers, obviously. this is still hilarious the next day
WTF :lol
Decided to give Summerslam a shot and I'm greeted by HBK dressed up as col sanders. What the fuck dude
3MB owned, Braun was amazing and I hope he gets a singles match with Brock at SS and not some shitty B PPV that's one brand only.Was the crowd just chanting "3MB" at Jinder? :lol :rofl
That's not a negative. They chanted it towards Drew at Takeover as well. Showing where they came from.
HOLY SHIT BRAUN DA GAWD :rejoice
I enjoyed the main event more than I expected tho Brock is probably my least fave of the 4. Seems like shit is about the same as it was since ManiaThat means you like Roman more. :holeup
Any reasonable person would like Roman more than post-Suplex City Brock, though.:dunno
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for better or worse, looks like roode is gonna be team blue
fingers crossed he'll be able to eventually have a good match in wwe. at least him and aj have worked together before, so that should make it a lot easier. he just didn't mesh well with anyone he worked with in nxt.
He's like another Kane. Just rely on him for solid matches, rarely spectacular.Hadn't thought about it that way but it makes sense, good point. And to be fair, being a top heel doesn't require amazing match work. Look at Miz: dude is a superstar heel and on a goddamn tear but still wrestles in a more subdued style.
Here's the thing: Drew isn't that good. His post-WWE run was trash and for some reason he was able to convince people he was secretly this great talent. He's not going to have a great match against anyone. Bobby Roode isn't going to have a great main event match with anyone because he's not a main event type wrestler in this era. Bobby being paired up with Japanese workers with heavy, stiff strike based offense was never going to work and I was amazed they went with Itami right after those two matches with Nak.
Anyway, here's the gifs for Summerslam for those interested
https://legitshook.squarespace.com/new-blog-3/2017/8/22/wwe-summerslam-2017
Why did you put Dean Ambrose on that list you piece of shit :ufup
:brazilcry
Omg I got the survey too, I have to counter act the Dean Ambrose vote. Better vote for The Drifter.
I went with AJ, Neville, Corbin, Roman, Braun, Rusev, Joe, Bruno, Johnny Wrestling, Usos
The great Dean Ambrose:
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What's wrong with any of those guys except for maybe Corbin? Dean Ambrose better than NEVILLE, Roman, BRAUN, Rusev, and the USOS?
Wtf, uce.
:brazilcry
Omg I got the survey too, I have to counter act the Dean Ambrose vote. Better vote for The Drifter.
I went with AJ, Neville, Corbin, Roman, Braun, Rusev, Joe, Bruno, Johnny Wrestling, Usos
NXT Women’s Champion Asuka relinquished her title to NXT General Manager William Regal tonight at Full Sail University in Orlando, Fla. After her dominant performance and historic 500-plus day reign as NXT Women’s Champion, The Empress of Tomorrow looks to her future for new opportunities in WWE, though no specific details are known at this time. Her reign will officially end on the date that her historic announcement airs.
http://www.wwe.com/shows/wwenxt/article/asuka-relinquishes-nxt-womens-titleQuoteNXT Women’s Champion Asuka relinquished her title to NXT General Manager William Regal tonight at Full Sail University in Orlando, Fla. After her dominant performance and historic 500-plus day reign as NXT Women’s Champion, The Empress of Tomorrow looks to her future for new opportunities in WWE, though no specific details are known at this time. Her reign will officially end on the date that her historic announcement airs.
:salute
http://www.wwe.com/shows/wwenxt/article/asuka-relinquishes-nxt-womens-titleQuoteNXT Women’s Champion Asuka relinquished her title to NXT General Manager William Regal tonight at Full Sail University in Orlando, Fla. After her dominant performance and historic 500-plus day reign as NXT Women’s Champion, The Empress of Tomorrow looks to her future for new opportunities in WWE, though no specific details are known at this time. Her reign will officially end on the date that her historic announcement airs.
:salute
Can't wait for her to lose to Alexa in 3 minutes on the main roster. ::)
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:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
Is that really Marty? Sounds like a distinguished mentally-challenged Indian fan.
:dogeIs that really Marty? Sounds like a distinguished mentally-challenged Indian fan.
Yeah...that's Marty.
There was a shoot incident involving Global Force Wrestling’s Rosemary and masked luchadora Sexy Star at Saturday night’s Triplemanía XXV show in Mexico City that resulted in Rosemary’s elbow popping from an armbar finisher.
The reports are that Star put the move on legitimately to end a four-way match for the Reina de Reinas title that also involved Lady Shani and Ayako Hamada.
According to PWInsider.com, Rosemary’s injury is said to not be that serious and she is not expected to be out of action for too long.
It was noted that Lady Shani and Star were legitimately shooting on each other at one point during the match. The backstage scene was said to be “extremely tense.” Star left the arena but was brought back by Vampiro and she apologized to Rosemary. She then quickly left again.
Shani was still upset after the match and was reportedly looking for Star backstage to finish what they started.
Rosemary spoke out on the incident Sunday night on Twitter. Via the social media platform, Rosemary took direct aim at Star for her actions in the ring and after in the locker room.
She wrote, “Let me make this perfectly clear: if you take liberties with someone else’s body when they are giving it to you and trusting you to keep them safe, you are not tough. You are an asshole. And you don’t belong in this business.
“Sexy Star decided to do that this weekend at Triplemania. And while I have remained quiet on social media until I was more calm to address the situation, I have now been informed that she is telling people that it us a work. You are all now being informed that Sexy Star is a liar. She was a liar in the locker room when she was forced to apologize and instead cooked up some bullshit excuse that she “didn’t know” and she is a liar now. You know if you are torquing on someone’s arm. You know an armbar is a real and dangerous hold.
“The only reason your face is not broken right now is because a little voice inside my head as I lay on the apron kept repeating, “Don’t go to Mexican prison…” (thanks, Demon)
“However, turning to positives: the outreach from the wrestling community has been incredible. I’m overwhelmed with how much love I feel right now from friends, fans and people I have yet to meet in this amazing business. We are a family and we protect our own. If you violate that, you are not welcome here.
“I also want to thank the AAA locker room. Multiple people came up to me saying how sorry and disgusted they were. Thank you Hamada and Shani, who also had to deal with bullshit from Star during that match. Thank you Vampiro, for professionally trying to calm a volatile situation, though, as you know, once the excuses started pouring out of Sexy Star’s mouth in lieu of an apology, it was over.
“Thank you to the amazing GFW locker room, both present that night and not. I have so much support from everyone and talent, crew and office have all reached out to show me that.”
That promo was fucking stupid. That's the kind of promo people shit on Vince Russo for. Shit made absolutely no sense and is a terrible way to build to a fake wrestling match. The whole thing almost felt like a punishment to Roman. Obviously Cena was going to eat him alive even in a normal promo, but to do the worked shoot shit and outright shit on Roman for failing to be the guy the company wants him to be (and also randomly taking a shot at Taker), talking about heel turns and 4th walls....shit is silly.
This is how you get an angle where Goldberg refuses to take Kevin Nash's powerbomb and forces Nash/Steiner to call a match on the fly much to the kudos of the announcers.
Maybe the intention was a true sink or swim moment for Roman, but shit, I see no benefit to a promo like that ever. I could probably talk for 3 days how fucking distinguished mentally-challenged that whole segment was.
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- In general it seems to be edited for time, cutting any lul in the dialog and making the responses look instantanuious.
- They cut some comments, most glaringly being Cena talking about not being old and busted like 'Taker and him claiming the power is in the audiences hands.
- The part where Roman forgets his lines and Cena agitates him about not being able to cut a promo is excised.
- Roman's "fake bitch" is bleeped out
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I thought it was fine. Their match should be good so that's mostly all that matters; this is just a way to get some heat on the match/feud I suppose. I'm guessing this is a product of "what do we do to keep Roman over/in a top spot while Brock has the title and feuds with Braun" since there's no room for Roman in the title picture with Bork Laser having the title and Braun having gotten himself over like a motherfucker.
But if I had to guess, I'd say stro is upset that it makes Roman look stupid.
:hitler
Roman looked like he was fumbling by design. It wasn't exposing him for being a poor talker. It was letting Cena be Cena, and playing it up. The next couple weeks will show Roman getting one over on Cena, I am sure. It's all according to keikaku.
Roman looked like he was fumbling by design. It wasn't exposing him for being a poor talker. It was letting Cena be Cena, and playing it up. The next couple weeks will show Roman getting one over on Cena, I am sure. It's all according to keikaku.
I don't know why you think this when we know, for a fact, that Roman is terrible on the mic. Then again maybe this whole post is a joke because of the keikaku thing.
Jasmine St. Claire showed up to give JB a lap dance because she'd been watching for 3 weeks and saw no asses
Yet no one seems to remember that in the same segment, the Dupps play spin the bottle with each other and Stan Dupp tells Goldylocks she has pretty pussy lips. :trumps
That was a low tier PPV, yet I am still tempted to go to TLC to see Asuka
What the hell was that mess that closed out Raw last night? I expected all of 205 Live to turn on Enzo and beat the shit out of him, but instead he insulted the show and the wrestlers, and then Neville threw some insults and beat him down (yes!) and speculation is that Neville may leave 205 and be back on the main roster, plus that might have been a double-turn.And I guess after the show ended Braun showed up, slammed Enzo, and then all the Cruiserweights beat him up for like 5-10 minutes. How bizarre.
...What? ???
I'm pretty excited for TLC and I'm glad I'm going to it but also...Kane? :neogaf
At least Kane came back up through the ring, as one would expect him to do. Also the new theme remix is solid.
https://streamable.com/h2ok6
Guess WWE can't keep it a secret any longer....and now we know for sure what happened to Bo, Bray, and Jojo. Wonder if anyone else got it besides Reigns...
But weird choices for replacements. Surprised that they didn't make it s 2 on 4 match or keep Roman's replacement a secret until the match starts.
Balor and AJ makes no sense, but hey, it will be better than what was planned, lol. Won't be surprised if this match turns into a TAG MATCH PLAYA and the two team up against a Harper/Rowan run in or something.
You can't keep that shit a secret and change the main event and main focus of the show that people bought tickets for the night of the show and expect people not to be pissed. Angle and AJ being replacements doesn't have to make any kind of story sense, they're trying to make up for fans not getting the Shield reunion match they were promised, and that's a pretty big consolation prize.
If you really need a storyline for it (which you don't), Kurt as GM felt bad about fans not getting the Shield reunion he promised them, so he's making it up to the fans the best way he knows how. So, you know, the real reason.
Where are the tables, ladders and chairs on this Tables, Ladders and Chairs PPV?
Where are the tables, ladders and chairs on this Tables, Ladders and Chairs PPV?Just the main this year. Previous shows had a match featuring one of each (and also stairs one time :lol ) alongside the main which features the whole shebang.
Where are the tables, ladders and chairs on this Tables, Ladders and Chairs PPV?
:lol Yeah, most of the matches aren't going to have them. You'd think every match would have something, but lol WWE.
:beli that's been a complaint of the TLC PPV since it existed, and now making it one match that actually matters is lol WWE? It's fucking dumb to have a ladder, a chair, and a table match and then expect people to care at the end of the night when you do a TLC match with the same spots.
That was legitimately one of the worst matches I've ever seen, and I've seen literally the worst WCW, TNA, WWE, ECW has put out, as well as deathmatch tournaments in barns in front of 50 people. Fucking HORRIBLE.
Finish was cool but overall eeeehhh. Why are they literally burying and trashing Strowman to put Kane over in the year of our Lord 2017? Also my boy Cesaro still getting sidelined as usual so nothing new in this year of WWE I missed, I guess.
At least AJ and Bálor was great.
What the fuck was that part when kane put Strowman through the floor next to the announce table, you couldn't see shit
That was legitimately one of the worst matches I've ever seen, and I've seen literally the worst WCW, TNA, WWE, ECW has put out, as well as deathmatch tournaments in barns in front of 50 people. Fucking HORRIBLE.lol, it was a mess but for something whose initial plans were destroyed due to aids and they had to alter it in like two days it was fun.
Finish was cool but overall eeeehhh. Why are they literally burying and trashing Strowman to put Kane over in the year of our Lord 2017? Also my boy Cesaro still getting sidelined as usual so nothing new in this year of WWE I missed, I guess.
At least AJ and Bálor was great.
I guess they're going to do a Kane/Strowman feud? :zzzWhat the fuck was that part when kane put Strowman through the floor next to the announce table, you couldn't see shit
Maybe to not show whatever it was Strowman did to not get hurt by the chairs. BTW, didn't they basically do that same spot some years back when John Cena had a match with Wade Barret after the Nexus formed?
At least I was sports entertained. Did Bálor do anything of interest recently? Last time I saw him was when he debuted on Raw and immediately left with an injury.
Balor has done nothing of interest since 2013. Even that's being nice.
I legit can't believe they dropped the ball that hard on both replacement matches. Both ended up being the dullest and worst matches of the show regardless of the talent involved. Balor got a dull match out of fucking AJ Styles.
We didn't Pumpkin Demon and that makes me sad.
So Emma finally had her first PPV match...and her last. She got released.
:dead
Summer Rae and Darren Young are gone, too.
It's not a nick name like Hitman or Stone Cold. It's a fucking number.
Yeah, the same guy that had a bad match with AJ Styles at WM in 2016 is going to try to have a good match with a much less versatile and high spot oriented Kenny Omega at WK in another bid to stay relevant by attaching himself to much younger, much hotter stars in the industry all so he can plug his booze cruise.:hyper
Yeah, the same guy that had a bad match with AJ Styles at WM in 2016 is going to try to have a good match with a much less versatile and high spot oriented Kenny Omega at WK in another bid to stay relevant by attaching himself to much younger, much hotter stars in the industry all so he can plug his booze cruise.
Guess the Jinder project didn't work out as well as they hoped, feels like such a quick change for a long reign. Must have decided to have the title picture more interesting out into Mania season.
AJ is actually older than Brock. By a month, but still. They're both 40.
Any idea where I can watch the Ric Flair 30 for 30 online?
On SD they announced that he'd be back on Raw next week. People online seem to think they are gonna try and squeeze in New Day vs Shield by have the teams invade the opposite show, which New Day has done twice now.
Could just be Reddit being Reddit but I'm into the idea.
Shouldn't the WWE network have a shit ton of old Flair matches available to stream? Assuming you have a subscription, that is. I don't so I don't know.
Shouldn't the WWE network have a shit ton of old Flair matches available to stream? Assuming you have a subscription, that is. I don't so I don't know.
I thought they just had the stuff from the Turner WCW buyout on? Any subscribers here that can clarify?
They own pretty much everything. All Georgia Championship Wrestling, all JCP going back to all incarnations since 1931 to 1988, Championship Wrestling From Florida, WCCW, AWA, plus WCW and WWF runs obviously. They own the vast majority of his career, and other stuff can be found on NWA's trash on demand service. But yeah, do a BING video search for Flair vs whoever and if its online it will probably pop up.
I just can't stand Hogan. The tape changed my perception of him. :yeshrug
Nice knowing you, Jason Jordan :lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oP-6Z1RlaIc
Nice knowing you, Jason Jordan :lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oP-6Z1RlaIc
This segment was so cringe worthy in the best way. :lol Jordan's horrible fake-crying and Angle just standing there while HHH gave Jordan a pedigree was
:delicious
This is clearly to set up a match between HHH and Angle for later (Mania?), but it made Angle look like a weak little bitch, which is pretty bad going into Survivor Series.
Nice knowing you, Jason Jordan :lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oP-6Z1RlaIc
Does he have a chin?
(http://i.imgur.com/fNomohD.gif)Nice knowing you, Jason Jordan :lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oP-6Z1RlaIc
Trips getting hotter every year.
Booker is just jealous he's not as fine as him. Marry me Jason!!!
Booker is just jealous he's not as fine as him. Marry me Jason!!!
Jason, girl? Jason Jordan? The dude’s about as sexy as a piece of toast with a hole in it without butter. There’s no character there. What are you seeing that I’m not?
1. Real jacked
2. Excellent package
3. Sweet smile
4. Son of a two time gold medalist and WWE Hall of Famer
What else do you need?
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Booker is just jealous he's not as fine as him. Marry me Jason!!!
Jason, girl? Jason Jordan? The dude’s about as sexy as a piece of toast with a hole in it without butter. There’s no character there. What are you seeing that I’m not?
A very attractive man who will ravage me into the night.
His character is the super sweet athletic guy who is trying to do well at work but it's not working, and I'm really rootng for him
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Out of all black wrestlers I'm pretty sure TVC would fuck 2 Cold Scorpio.
Booker's commentary seems even more bizarre than normal tonight. :lol
We’ve long known that burrito chain Chipotle is the fast food stop of choice for the wrestler on the go. As Seth Rollins explained, “If you can just get a bowl with a bunch of meat and vegetables and rice, you're pretty set.”
Now, thanks to David Shoemaker and his crack staff over at The Ringer’s The Masked Man Show podcast, we know what happens when Braun Strowman walks into the joint.
For starters, the Monster Among Men isn’t like Rollins and other calorie counting, clean eating Superstars...
If I’m hungry, I eat. A lot of guys that I work with [are] so worried about, “Oh, I gotta eat here or there or this and that.” I just eat, man. I don’t care.
While Braun says he’s “kinda like a cow” who eats all day long, his go to meal is Chipotle. And he always gets the same thing. So much so that the one by his house starts prepping his bowl the minute they spot 6’ 8” nearly 400 pounder pulling up.
That order?
A bowl. One scoop of rice. Grilled vegetables. Three scoops of steak. Two scoops of chicken. Guac. Corn. Sour cream.
The Ringer did the math, and that’s 1470 calories, if he doesn’t eat the complimentary tortilla - which I imagine is a game-time decision for the self-professed grazer. If he goes for the carbs, it’s 1770.
They also checked with their local store, and learned that order would ring up at $22.17.
And, keep in mind Strowman says he “binge-eats” as part of his always eating plan, so even after killing that bowl...
He’s not finished with you yet, Chipotle.
Why the fuck is Chrisley Knows Best not on after Smackdown now? WTF?
3. I want him to fuck me. Sexiest bastard on the roster.:samoa
I prayed for Bray Wyatt to get hit by a car and die before going to bed tonight.:what
Oh, any great ECW PPVs? I used to watch the TV show in the late 90s, but I have no idea which PPVs are great.
No. ECW is fucking trash.
The reason that the Bludgeon Brothers - Luke Harper and Erick Rowan are only going by Harper & Rowan now is because Vince McMahon believes that by going with just their last names, the team as heels comes across as being more "dominant.":confused
-Jordan goes on to do something else.
"Awful" is kind of the point of Broken Matt. It was over the top stupid/absurd/bad that people liked ironically until it blew up and people were entertained by precisely because of how stupid it was.
-Every time I see the two NXT blonde call-ups on both shows, I just think "Alex Bliss" clones. Especially the one on Smackdown. They look so damn interchangeable.fwiw, Liv Morgan (Smackdown blonde) is a Carmella clone. But she's better at it.
The wife of WWE Superstar Rich Swann, indie wrestler Vannarah "Su Yung" Riggs, posted the following on her Facebook page earlier today::hhh :samoa :huh :hulk :crazy :cac
"I can not wait to see my husband tomorrow! After such an awesome weekend of wrestling debuting in two different promotions across America nothing would be better than to see his face.”
The post seems to indicate that the two have reconciled following the arrest of Swann last week for kidnapping/false imprisonment and battery – touching and striking.
Last night was mostly boring. I enjoyed the main event match, which I didn't expect to. Also there were some solid signs, so that's something.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRS8qYWX4AA-4t8.jpg:small)
:lol
Booker's commentary is secret best part of Raw. :lol
They mentioned him but then just had Bray give a promo where he did a :woken impression.
edit: well nevermind, here he is :lol
https://twitter.com/WWE/status/942972037588545536
Turned off Raw before this got announced but do they even have enough women to do this? Is that the reason that the NXT call ups happened? :lol
Last night was mostly boring. I enjoyed the main event match, which I didn't expect to. Also there were some solid signs, so that's something.
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:lol
There are rumors Vince is bringing back the XFL. What could possibly go wrong? :doge
-- In what could potentially be a revealing move amidst rumors of him getting back into the football business, WWE CEO Vince McMahon sold 3.34 million shares of WWE, which amounts to roughly $100 million.
-- According to the filing, McMahon sold his shares "primarily to fund a separate entity from the Company, Alpha Entertainment LLC, which Mr. McMahon established to explore investment opportunities across the sports and entertainment landscapes, including professional football."
-- As noted earlier in the week, McMahon has already filed for several XFL and football related trademarks, fueling further rumors that he is either going to re-launch the XFL or some other variation of a football league separate from WWE, but which for all intents and purposes will be funded by his pro wrestling corporation.
"On December 21, 2017, Vincent K. McMahon ("Mr. McMahon"), Chairman and Chief Executive Officer of World Wrestling Entertainment, Inc. (the "Company"), sold 3,340,000 shares of the Company's Class A common stock in a block trade made in accordance with the provisions of Rule 144 of the Securities Act of 1933, as amended. Mr. McMahon executed the sale primarily to fund a separate entity from the Company, Alpha Entertainment LLC, which Mr. McMahon established to explore investment opportunities across the sports and entertainment landscapes, including professional football. Mr. McMahon has informed the Company that he has no current plan to sell additional shares of the Company's stock and that he intends to continue in his capacity as the Company's Chairman and Chief Executive Officer for the foreseeable future.
The shares sold by Mr. McMahon represent approximately 4.3% of the Company's total outstanding shares of Class A and Class B common stock. After the sale, Mr. McMahon beneficially owns 32,193,375 shares of the Company's Class B common stock, which represents approximately 82.8% of the Company's total voting power and approximately 41.8% of the Company's total outstanding shares of common stock."
Kalisto's wife posted to Instagram to rip into the fan, while also revealing that Kalisto had to get stitches, an MRI and may have possibly suffered a fracture as well. For those wondering, the fan was actually sitting in a suite, got a running start and launched the water bottle. Those around him turned him in and he was caught.
Yeah Matt is ...not working. They ruined the broken/woken gimmick, gj wwe.
Yeah Matt is ...not working. They ruined the broken/woken gimmick, gj wwe.
Oh no. I’ve missed a few eps. What’s gone wrong?
Stolen shamelessly from Resetera.
http://www.prowrestlingsheet.com/enzo-amore-rape-allegations/#.WmZg3qinGUk
Stro-favorite Enzo Amore suspended for raping people. I’m just glad I won’t have to see this piece of shit for a while.
-- At the Manhattan Center in Manhattan, WWE held two exclusive dark matches for the fans there. They were:
* Mustafa Ali pinned Lince Dorada with an inverted 450 splash in a very quick match.
* Drew Gulak & Tony Nese went to an apparent no contest against Hideo Itami & Akira Tozawa. The fans hated that, chanting "bullsh*t" as the four of them wrestled to the back. The four then brawled back out and went at it again, this time with Tozawa pinning Gulak and the fans chanted bullsh*t again.
-- The Miz made his way from the Barclays Center to the Manhattan Center, sometime soon after the APA poker segment. He did a promo saying that his aim is to make the Intercontinental title relevant again and said he would win the Royal Rumble and go on to headline WrestleMania as the IC champ.
-- After D-X closed out Raw at the Manhattan Center, Ric Flair made his way out and cut a brief promo. He talked about how he was in WWE for the first three Raw shows before heading to WCW, which he called a mistake. He then said he is lucky to be here with all his wrestling friends and feels that all that matters is to be with those who love and respect you.
-- Following that, The Miz came back out and cut a promo on the Balor Club and D-X, calling himself the only champion in the building and saying the rest of them were all former champs. This prompted Seth Rollins to come out, the two went at it a bit on the mic before Rollins laid him out with the Blackout and everyone started chanting "suck it."
-- Finally, Triple H came out and thanked the fans for 25 years and for coming back to where Raw originated.
Fans at the Manhattan Center for last night's Raw 25 were said to be extremely frustrated/upset/bored due to the significant stretches of non-action. When nothing was going on there, the fans were forced to watch the big screen at the happenings over at the Barclays Center portion of the show. In the video below, the audience can be heard chanting "bullsh*t" and "we want wrestling" among other things.https://twitter.com/Its0nlyRachel/status/955632380399816704
The fans weren't the only ones bored as a picture of Jerry Lawler and Jim Ross made its way onto the internet in which the two appear to be sleeping - again likely through the segments that were taking place at the Barclays Center.(https://i.imgur.com/j2ZurGA.jpg)
Enzo being fired makes up for the shitty show 10x over.
THERE'S ONLY ONE WORD TO DESCRIBE YOU AND I'M GONNA SPELL IT OUT:\
R-A-P-I-S-T RAAAAAPIST!
https://twitter.com/totaldivaseps/status/957445334854262784who is she? :omg :heart :heartbeat
:lawd
That was a really fun Rumble.
They MUST now be setting up Sasha/Bayley, they MUST.
Brock Lesnar and Braun Strowman had a bit of a shoot altercation last night during their match. Strowman caught Lesnar with a legit knee to the face which Brock did not appreciate. Lesnar then responded with two vicious right hands that seemed to legit stagger Strowman.https://twitter.com/AussieEmmet/status/957807231851884545
tbh i wanna catch up on the wrasslin but find it all so time consuming cuz I haven't watched in two years. I guess I could watch current stuff and then back track idk I refuse to watch NJPW or NXT without being updated on the storyline because it's so important in both and a large part of the fun. Seeing feuds without them growing in-ring just isn't the same.As far as WWE and NXT, now is the perfect time to do that. Same for NJPW.
You might love Okada vs. Suzuki at G1: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x5wicy7
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6rqQMbVHSI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6rqQMbVHSI
:rofl
Who the hell was "The Wall?" ???
Originally the bodyguard of Berlyn, the renamed Das Wonderkind Alex Wright, The Wall would break away from his former boss and developed a gimmick where he would "break the code" and intentionally injure other wrestlers by chokeslamming them through tables, often from high places like the top rope, apron, or even the video screens. Sid Vicious, then WCW Champion who got sick of Hulk Hogan trying to steal the spotlight, would turn on Hulk and put a $500K bounty on the Hulkster's head. At Spring Breakout 2000, The Wall intimated that he was going to cash in by standing on top of a hotel a few hundred yards away. Hulk Hogan, after years of taking his vitamins, had the tremendous eyesight to see him 400 yards away and 15 stories up.
WCW got rebooted 2 weeks later and the feud and angle were dropped completely. A few months later, The Wall would join the Misfits in Action as Sgt. AWOL, returning to the original Wall gimmick/name shortly before WCW went out of business. After that, he had a stint in TNA as Malice, and AJPW as Gigantes. He then died of a heart attack at 36 that it is claimed had nothing to do with drugs. :doge
I'm not well versed in the going ons of wrestling in the past few years, so I just guessed. If so good on him because Braun is pretty great, dude shouldgethave had a title run by now.
I gave up halfway through Smackdown today. What a mess it was. Anything that involves Ziggler now is instant :nope for me. I think it's time to take a break but I really like AJ. :-\ Not sure when/why things turned but Raw really has pulled ahead now.
Also the mixed match stuff is really great. Sami/Becky, Rusev/Lana, and of course Braun/Alexa are all really fun teams. The whole thing seems more relaxed and its much better look at the same characters.
On November 28, 2016, matches for WWE Main Event began taping prior to Monday Night Raw. This was done due to the cancellation of WWE Superstars and to make room for the new cruiserweight special, 205 Live, streaming on the WWE Network immediately following SmackDown every Tuesday night.
Is there any truth to the rumblings that Vince is finally stepping down (to focus on the XFL) and giving a lot more control of everything to HHH, or is that just more dirt sheet bullshit?
I see that they are going to be going back to PPVs regularly-featuring wrestlers from both brands again. Already the beginning of the end for brand split 2.0?I gave up halfway through Smackdown today. What a mess it was. Anything that involves Ziggler now is instant :nope for me. I think it's time to take a break but I really like AJ. :-\ Not sure when/why things turned but Raw really has pulled ahead now.
Ziggler got himself a nice new contract for the next two years where he's going to play glorified jobber to the stars, but will get paid nicely and can do other stuff/leave right after he's done for the night. If he was so tired of everything...WHY DID HE SIGN ON FOR TWO MORE YEARS!?
SD has been bad for me ever since the whole Daniel vs. Shane 'war' started. It's a beyond tired storyline that needs to fucking end already.Also the mixed match stuff is really great. Sami/Becky, Rusev/Lana, and of course Braun/Alexa are all really fun teams. The whole thing seems more relaxed and its much better look at the same characters.
IIRC this is produced by the people who do NXT, which probably explains why it has been better. I've only watched a few of these and wish they put them on the network.
According to a recent Sports Illustrated article, Dolph Ziggler's new contract with WWE is worth $1.5 million per year. As well, he never really seriously considered leaving the company and always had intentions of re-signing.
According to speculation on a recent Wrestling Observer Radio, after WWE goes to dual branded PPV events beginning in May, it's possible that all PPVs will be expanded to be four hours in length as a way to get more matches on the card. One of the concerns for joint Raw/Smackdown PPVs is that there isn't much time left on a normal three-hour show for any mid-card matches.
There's a psuedo insider on SA who insists Dolph's deal isn't nearly that much. Which I don't doubt because nobody's given a shit about Dolph for ages. Four hours every PPV? So will the big 4 be 5 or 6 hours each without the preshows included now, then? :dizzyQuoteAccording to a recent Sports Illustrated article, Dolph Ziggler's new contract with WWE is worth $1.5 million per year. As well, he never really seriously considered leaving the company and always had intentions of re-signing.
:confusedQuoteAccording to speculation on a recent Wrestling Observer Radio, after WWE goes to dual branded PPV events beginning in May, it's possible that all PPVs will be expanded to be four hours in length as a way to get more matches on the card. One of the concerns for joint Raw/Smackdown PPVs is that there isn't much time left on a normal three-hour show for any mid-card matches.
:dizzy
I won't click those as I don't want to believe you're a real person with a real job in the real world
I just don't want to believe such depraved deviants are wandering the streets alongside young John Cena fans :jeanluc
Asuka wasn't ready for the English language. Still wifey doe
Reading up on RAW, since he won the gauntlet, Braun faces Brock at Wrestlemania? I thought the big, dreaded, year-long plan has been to have Reigns beat Brock at Wrestlemania? Is it expected to become some sort of three-way match? Stro?
-- On last night's Wrestling Observer Radio, one of the discussions was about WWE setting up a future Seth Rollins vs. Roman Reigns storyline which is likely the reason that Rollins beat Reigns clean on Raw.
-- The plan is still for Reigns to defeat Brock Lesnar and win the WWE Universal title, but after that there are a lack of opponents for Reigns into the summer. Dave Meltzer speculated that if WWE presented a heel like Bray Wyatt as Roman's first post-WrestleMania feud, it would be a complete failure.
-- Braun Strowman and Finn Balor would be two other candidates, but Strowman for one doesn't make sense as WWE doesn't want him losing in a one-on-one match. As a result, Rollins appears to be the guy being groomed to step up and challenge Reigns in a program following WrestleMania.
this motherfucker reigns is gonna main event mania 4 years in a row. how in the fuck does vince fall in love this hard with this guy of all people :picard :trash
That was a shit PPV. There wasn’t a single good match. The main event was incredibly boring and everyone took long as snaps at some point or another.
That was a shit PPV. There wasn’t a single good match. The main event was incredibly boring and everyone took long as snaps at some point or another.
I thought it was pretty good. And by that I mean the play session of Dragon Quest Builders I was doing while this on in the background. I barely glanced at anything other than the Ronda segment- We knew Asuka was going to win. We knew Reigns was going to win. I figured Bliss would retain and I wonder what is going to happen at Mania because it doesn't look like Asuka is going to face her. So who is she going to face? Is it going to be Ronda? The rest was :zzz.
Joey Styles is trash now then forever:trigger
Saudi Arabia to Host the Greatest Royal Rumble®
RIYADH, Saudi Arabia & STAMFORD, Conn.--(BUSINESS WIRE)-- The Saudi General Sports Authority in partnership with WWE will present the Greatest Royal Rumble event at the King Abdullah Sports City in Jeddah, Saudi Arabia on Friday, April 27. For the first time ever, the Royal Rumble match will feature 50 WWE Superstars. As part of this historic event, fans will see WWE Superstars John Cena™, Triple H™, Roman Reigns™, AJ Styles™, Braun Strowman™, The New Day™, Randy Orton™, Bray Wyatt™ and Shinsuke Nakamura™, among others.
This press release features multimedia. View the full release here: http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20180305005764/en/
Ticket and broadcast information will be available in the coming weeks. This event is part of a 10-year strategic multiplatform partnership in support of Vision 2030, Saudi Arabia’s social and economic reform program.
“The Greatest Royal Rumble will be a spectacle of historic proportions,” said Vince McMahon, WWE Chairman & CEO. “Our partnership with the Saudi General Sports Authority reflects a long-term commitment to present WWE’s world-class entertainment to a global audience on a grander scale than ever before.”
As reported yesterday, Brock Lesnar defeated Kane in a match at a house show in about 35 seconds, much to the anger and disappointment of many fans in attendance who felt ripped off. According to f4wonline.com, there is definitely a reason for WWE going ahead with such a short match - it is part of a bigger, short-term plan to turn Lesnar heel (and thus, Roman Reigns face) ahead of their clash at WrestleMania 34
People chanted 'you still suck' when he beat Cena at a B PPV, how do you think a Wrestlemania crowd is going to respond? :lol
"Sacrificing" :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol
Taker is a hobbled old man who should have retired years ago and definitely shouldn't have been in the ring last year at WM. He's around one day a year and has literally no impact on storylines or the promotion. There was nothing to sacrifice.
Goldberg wasn't even supposed to have a run, the Survivor Series match was supposed to be a one off and it was Brock's idea for it to be a quick surprise squash.
Neither of those 50 year olds were "sacrificed" for Roman or anyone else.
Loooooooool at Brock laughing on the way out. That's not really surprising, all of his other house show matches the past 2 years have been like 90 secs to maybe 3-4 minutes. Who the fuck really wants to see 50 year old Kandidate Kane wrestle longer than 30 seconds in 2018?
But seriously. Is anything good going on in WWE right now? How's my girl Asuka?
Maybe they're finally turning her face, which she should have been a long time ago because she's naturally too sweet to be a heel. If she's crying she'll probably get bullied by Alexa and turn face.
Lessee-
-Shinsuke and Asuka both won their respective Rumble matches.
-Shinsuke has been on TV more lately but still doesn't seem to be a big focus.
-Asuka is still on her winning streak and they have her feuding with Nia Jax, but ultimately this is going to shift to her likely feuding with Charlotte and I guess jumping to Smackdown?
-Asuka winning the Rumble was overshadowed by Ronda Rousey popping up. She's going to be in a mixed tag with Angle as her partner vs. HHH and Stephanie. Dirtsheets are saying it will be 90% Angle/HHH during the match.
-John Cena is doing this dumb angle where he keeps talking about how he's going to win to get to Mania, fails, and repeats it. Apparently this is all to set up the eventual Taker match at Mania and all this boring shit is a work and :zzz
-Smackdown is still all about SHANE VS. DANIEL and Kevin Owens and Sami Zayn are there and oh yeah AJ and :zzz
-WWE is still trying to push Roman hard as a face and nobody cares.
-Roman may still be under fire in a potential steroid scandal but WWE is staying tight lipped about it. Braun Stroman is the backup in case shit happens, apparently.
-Jason Jordan is gone for a while because of an injury. Does anyone care? Will he be remembered upon returning? :doge
-Rey Mysterio was set to sign a deal and probably still will, but he injured himself so he probably won't be at Mania.
What else is worth mentioning?
I was kinda hype for Mania post-Rumble but but this lull and zzzzzzzz PPVs that don't need to be taking place have dulled it for me. I think things might get better post-Fastlane this coming weekend. I like Asuka, Braun, Elias, and Miz right now. Not sure about anyone else.
https://twitter.com/GifsOfWrestling/status/971474367241752576
I missed Fastlane while wallowing in terrible depression. Anything worth watching?Glazing over a recap it sounds uh, not very exciting. Maybe the tag and six pack matches.
Jeff Hardy was arrested on Saturday night for driving while impaired in Cameron County, NC. He was arrested in Concord at approximately 10:20 PM after he allegedly struck a guardrail. According to the accident report, Hardy "ran off the roadway to the right, in turn striking about 105 feet of guardrail before the back end of the car spun out 90 degrees to the left, coming to rest in the middle of the right N bound lane of travel."
Documents also show that Hardy was released from custody about an hour later but he has a court date related to the charge on April 18 and his license was also suspended for 30 days. WWE has yet to comment on this situation, but Hardy was prepping for a return to the ring within the next month after being sidelined since last October due to shoulder surgery.
I missed Fastlane while wallowing in terrible depression. Anything worth watching?Glazing over a recap it sounds uh, not very exciting. Maybe the tag and six pack matches.
Ziggler's angle heading into WM is similar, in that he's never had a singles match at WM. And the rumors are his singles match will be against...Shane McMahon :lol
Ziggler's angle heading into WM is similar, in that he's never had a singles match at WM. And the rumors are his singles match will be against...Shane McMahon :lol
They’re only putting Kid Rock in so they can have HOFed a future president twice.:dead
cena challenged undertaker, roman yelled at vince and got suspended, nia jax went nuts, the hardy family appeared, and braun won a tag team battle royale by himself and is going to challenge for the tag belts solo. pretty good raw overall.
did i miss ronda? i thought she was supposed to be on every raw
Hardy stuff was just a video package but still got me hyped
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Plans change all of the time in WWE and that was obvious this week when Ronda Rousey, despite being advertised for all Raw’s leading up to WrestleMania, was not on the show this week.Well that got pulled back real quick :lol
It appears that she has been pulled from all episodes until the “go home” show for WrestleMania. Rousey was originally booked to appear on the 3/19 episode of Raw in Dallas, Texas at the American Airlines Arena and the 3/26 show at the Quicken Loans Arena in Cleveland, Ohio but she is no longer listed on advertisements for those shows.
As of this writing, she is only scheduled to appear on one more Raw before Mania. That would be the 4/2 show at the Philips Arena in Atlanta, GA
the one way to redeem this stupid ko/sami thing is to make them friends again and have them be co-winners of the battle royale
QuotePlans change all of the time in WWE and that was obvious this week when Ronda Rousey, despite being advertised for all Raw’s leading up to WrestleMania, was not on the show this week.Well that got pulled back real quick :lol
It appears that she has been pulled from all episodes until the “go home” show for WrestleMania. Rousey was originally booked to appear on the 3/19 episode of Raw in Dallas, Texas at the American Airlines Arena and the 3/26 show at the Quicken Loans Arena in Cleveland, Ohio but she is no longer listed on advertisements for those shows.
As of this writing, she is only scheduled to appear on one more Raw before Mania. That would be the 4/2 show at the Philips Arena in Atlanta, GA
SD teased that Shane had a "big announcement" tonight. Which was that he's leaving the show "for a while." He books Owens vs. Sami for Mania, but then the two of them beat the shit out of him instead. :lol ??? :lol:huh :heyman
Shane said he'd step down as commissioner indefinitely.
He didn't say anything about not being a wrestler.
:rollsafe
-- According to pwinsider.com, AJ Styles made only one appearance over the weekend when he showed up briefly to save Shinsuke Nakamura from an attack by Kevin Owens and Sami Zayn. Styles was originally supposed to team with Nakamura to take on Owens and Zayn, but was attacked with chairshots before the match began. Randy Orton then filled in for him for the remainder of the tour as Nakamura's tag team partner.
-- While Styles is dealing with some sort of injury, exact details are unknown. However, he is backstage at Raw tonight getting evaluated by WWE's medical staff. Styles is booked into one of the top matches at WrestleMania 34, where he will be defending his WWE title against Nakamura, so it remains to be seen what impact his injury will have on that scheduled bout.
Surprised they obviously gave Matt that much free reign. What will they do with him now though ???
-- The Ultimate Deletion match between Matt Hardy and Bray Wyatt which was taped last week and aired on Raw last night was a huge hit online, especially on social media where it was the trending #1 for a number of hours even after Raw ended. The real determination as far as the company goes will come later today when viewership numbers come out for Raw, specifically how much of the audience was retained in hour three.
-- Michael Hayes was listed as the producer of the segment/match and Jeremy Borash was also said to be heavily involved, as per PW Insider. Reby Hardy - Matt's wife - filmed and edited a lot of the footage that was used in the match and some of the music that played was also composed by her.
-- Jeff Hardy's cameo was not edited out and Jeff continues to work out at the Performance Center this week in anticipation of a return to WWE TV. Matt Hardy and Bray Wyatt were both backstage at Raw.
During the airing of the Ultimate Deletion match, which was pre-taped last week, WWE did a dark match for the live audience with Braun Strowman wrestling and defeating Elias. After that match, Kane came out to attack Strowman and was put through a table.
Meanwhile the Hulu version of Raw removed the Ultimate Deletion entirely :lol
Following more than two years of extensive evaluations, four-time World Champion Daniel Bryan has been medically cleared to return to in-ring competition by leading neurosurgeons, neurologists and concussion experts, including Dr. Robert Cantu, Dr. Javier Cárdenas and Dr. Jeffrey Kutcher.
Bryan underwent a full review of his medical history and received comprehensive neurological and physical evaluations independent of WWE. He was cleared by each doctor as well as WWE’s Medical Director, Dr. Joseph Maroon.
They cleared Daniel Bryan to wrestle. Guess AJ really is injured
So the only match I wanted to see in WM is off? That sucks.
Considering he was announcing his return to the ring, the crowd didn't seem to react much more than they would to say, Bobby Roode doing a GLORIOUS bomb.
What's up next is Shane/Bryan returning and booking themselves against Sami/KO at YESSLEMANIA
OH MY
That was a pretty awful Raw as a WM build-up show.
-- WWE announced via their website that Charlotte Flair is injured and will miss tonight's Mixed Match Challenge where she was scheduled to team up with Bobby Roode to take on Finn Balor & Sasha Banks. WWE is conducting a poll to vote on Charlotte's replacement and the choices are: Carmella, Becky Lynch and Lana.
-- Charlotte was also scheduled to take on Natalya tonight on Smackdown Live, but that match is presumably not going to happen either. At this time, there is no word on if her Smackdown women's title match at WrestleMania against Asuka is in danger of being changed or cancelled.
On her ideal night in: "I'm pretty anti-social. I don't go out. I'm very immature still. My ideal night for me, personally, is watching Disney movies and drinking a glass of wine by myself in the hotel room. That's my ideal night. I guess people would describe me as the character I portrayed in NXT when I threw glitter and wore tutus and was very bubbly because that's what I love. I love things that are sparkly and glittery and Disney, all of these things a 26-year-old probably shouldn't like but I do.":uguu
So why didn't they go with "evil Disney princess" for her gimmick instead of Harley Quinn wannabe? :P
Network just added about 50 hours of WCW Saturday Night :rejoice
Former TNA World champion James Storm is backstage at Raw in Atlanta, GA, PWInsider.com has confirmed.:neogaf
There is no sign of The Undertaker backstage at Raw.
QuoteFormer TNA World champion James Storm is backstage at Raw in Atlanta, GA, PWInsider.com has confirmed.:neogaf
There is no sign of The Undertaker backstage at Raw.
I bet I’m the only guy here that could satisfy Nia Jax. None of you baby-dicked fucks stand a chance.
I bet I’m the only guy here that could satisfy Nia Jax. None of you baby-dicked fucks stand a chance.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZqo4OZ0Pqs
After Monday night's WrestleMania 34 "go-home" episode of WWE RAW went off the air, RAW Tag-Team Champions Sheamus and Cesaro came out and attacked Roman Reigns. Eventually, John Cena ran in to make the save. Reigns and Cena hit a Spear and an Attitude Adjustment to send Sheamus and Cesaro retreating to the back. Reigns and Cena posed for the crowd a bit and that was about it. For the third straight week, the advertised post-show dark match main event did not take place.:lol
"I think it would be really cool. Obviously it comes down to a couple of different things creatively, but I think it would be really neat. I think it would be able to show a different aspect of myself. It really just depends on the route that we want to take my character; if there's any type of evolution that needs to be made in the next couple of years. I think with a character like Paul Heyman, the different things that we could do would be really cool. It would show not only myself, but also him in a totally different light. I wouldn't just be the guy bouncing around not saying anything. If there's something I need to say, I'm going to step up and say it because regardless if I'm with a guy like Paul Heyman, I would not be a Paul Heyman guy, he would be a Roman Reigns guy, that's the way that would work."
I don't give a shit who manages Ronda, I don't ever want to see or hear that fat fuck Paul E. Heyman ever again. So fucking sick of him.
Based on how much weight he's gained between WM 30 and WM 34, how sweaty he constantly is, and how red he constantly is, I'd say I might get my wish pretty soon
He can't die fast enough as far as I'm concerned. It's his fault I still have to hear about Tommy Dreamer once in a while.:what
Stro, you used to be fat, weren't you?
Entirely on screen talent only, although he does give suggestions for Brock's angles and has been said to still mentor some of the current talent when he's around. The only reason Heyman has a job with WWE at all is because Brock said so. They didn't want to bring him back when Brock came back.
His promos for the last two years have been just a chopped up version of the same thing.
1. No one fucks me in the ass except Comcast
2. Lol at the idea of Paul Heyman being able to get and maintain an erection or be physically able to have sex in 2018 and beyond
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Just thinkin about ravishing thangs
Who is this Sam Roberts dude and why does he look like Pauly Shore's cousin?
I'm on the network yet they still cut to ads?
Man, Kane looks awful now.
Uh....the last time Wyatt was on TV, he and Matt were trying to kill each other at Matt's house and Wyatt was drowned in a lake
Also note: Last year, Bray was in a WWE Championship match
This year, he did a run in in a battle royal on the pre-show
"Even Cena looks shocked" is the new "even Speedwagon is afraid"
The first hour was on Youtube and twitter as well
The Future of Music fool:huh
The Future of Music fool:huh
Seth's catchphrase is burn it down, it's in his song, he comes out to flames...then comes out as a White Walker? :lol
Miz looks like he stole Nakamura's gear :lol
Balor isn't the demon at WM :lol
:heymanI wonder if WWE changed the winner to fuck with the betting odds. :P
Good opener.
I wonder since it isn't a sport that someone could just make bets and switch the booking based on the odds to make a shit load of money
I'm fine with this, the running tears of Asuka fanboys is going to be hilarious.
I don't like how this Cena thing is going. Just running to the back and then going to come out for a regular match? What the fuck? :lol
The ref told him Taker arrived. He went to get his gear dawg. Always be prepared for a match.
I never really understood why Taker/Cena at WM was a dream match, but ok.
I never really understood why Taker/Cena at WM was a dream match, but ok.
The whole dumb bit made me enjoy this, but I'd really like it if Taker somehow wins. He won't, though.
damn stro this shit is gonna be on until midnight? what matches are left?
nia/bliss (laundry break)
aj/naka
brock/roman
i'd rather there be no mystery partner.
No chance of Big Dave here right? I'm afraid even asking that will result in Big Show instead
Braun continues to be the best wrestler in the business.
Asuka and Nakamura both win the Rumbles...
...and both lose at Mania.
:confused
Braun Strowman's mystery partner at WrestleMania 34 last night is reportedly WWE official John Cone's son. Strowman picked the "fan" from the audience and then proceeded to team up with him in the match, ultimately winning both the bout and the Raw tag team titles. Below is a picture with Strowman, John Cone and his son after the match:(https://image.ibb.co/ia5W9x/nicholas.jpg)
Y'all ready for another 3 hours of Raw tonight! .:stop
:rkelly
Y'all ready for another 3 hours of Raw tonight! .lol no
:rkelly
Y'all ready for another 3 hours of Raw tonight! .
:rkelly
:snoop
fwiw it seems Nicholas is the son of one of the refs
QuoteBraun Strowman's mystery partner at WrestleMania 34 last night is reportedly WWE official John Cone's son. Strowman picked the "fan" from the audience and then proceeded to team up with him in the match, ultimately winning both the bout and the Raw tag team titles. Below is a picture with Strowman, John Cone and his son after the match:
...So why did Braun need to walk around for five minutes to find the kid? They couldn't put him in the front row? :doge
Matt being helped to win by Bray was :what
-- It was noted on the Wrestling Observer Radio that Asuka was forbidden to use the armbar in her match against Charlotte because it was Ronda Rousey's finisher that she would be using in her match. The loss last night also seems to imply that the plan for Asuka vs. Ronda Rousey is likely off and instead WWE will build towards Charlotte vs. Rousey, possibly as the main event of next year's WrestleMania 35.:-\ Would rather have Asuka/Ronda.
-- It was also speculated that perhaps the reason WWE decided to end Asuka's undefeated streak is that it will be easier to book her moving forward and for the time being she will remain on Raw.
-- According to a report at prowrestlingsheet.com, Vince McMahon and Brock Lesnar got into a verbal altercation after the conclusion of the main event at WrestleMania. While full details are unknown, the report says that Lesnar was "livid" after returning backstage, which did not sit well with McMahon. They further state that Lesnar proceeded to then throw his WWE Universal title belt either at McMahon directly or at a wall before walking away.:heyman
-- The @WrestleVotes Twitter account relays a related story, saying that Brock had words with people backstage after the match but it did not get physical as others stepped in to ensure that the situation did not escalate. This report does not specifically name McMahon.
-- If the above is true, it is unclear what exactly would have caused the issues but there are rumors that perhaps Lesnar went off script towards the end of the match against Roman Reigns or it's also possible that WWE officials were not happy at his stiff elbow that caught Reigns and lead to a ton of blood spilling out.
Oh is that what happened? I thought he got knocked into the lake and like kind of drowned and therefore Matt won the match :lol
"Xenophobia" might be the wrong word to use here, but...both Japanese wrestlers not getting the belts? It does make you wonder. :P
Asuka/Charlotte stuff:Quote-- It was noted on the Wrestling Observer Radio that Asuka was forbidden to use the armbar in her match against Charlotte because it was Ronda Rousey's finisher that she would be using in her match. The loss last night also seems to imply that the plan for Asuka vs. Ronda Rousey is likely off and instead WWE will build towards Charlotte vs. Rousey, possibly as the main event of next year's WrestleMania 35.:-\ Would rather have Asuka/Ronda.
-- It was also speculated that perhaps the reason WWE decided to end Asuka's undefeated streak is that it will be easier to book her moving forward and for the time being she will remain on Raw.
Raw:
Ember Moon called up!
RAW IS NICHOLAS
Braun and Nicholas relinquish the belts
:stahp
No Way Jose called up (Should I be excited?)
Bork, TVC, get your lives. Are you really watching 3 hours more wrestling tonight?
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Bork, TVC, get your lives. Are you really watching 3 hours more wrestling tonight?
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I’ll watch Paul for both of us, baby.
Isn’t post-WM usually a worthwhile one?
Well when it's over, make sure to let me know if you think you spent your time well watching it
Isn’t post-WM usually a worthwhile one?
mandy rose :lawd also why does paige look like a monster person?
She retired? No wonder she sounded like she sounded like calling the battle royal.
also whoever does her makeup now got her fucked up
old paige
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With all these debuts on Raw tonight, is Smackdown going to get anyone? :lolThere's only one person Smackdown needs, brother :hulk
A shame, Sheamus has been in a lot of good matches with a real smash mouth style pretty much absent from WWE otherwise for the past decade.
-- The finish of the Brock Lesnar vs. Roman Reigns match was a tightly guarded secret backstage, so much that none of the writers and many of the producers were under the assumption that Reigns was going to win. The move to have Lesnar win was a late change, but Dave Meltzer on Wrestling Observer Radio, said it wasn't a last minute change, implying that it was likely decided sometime during the week.
-- The referee did know how the finish would go but he was only told during the match to "count to three." In other words, the referee went into the match believing - like everyone else - that Reign was going to win, but at some point during the match, he received clear instruction that the finish was changed and to count the three for Brock instead.
-- The reason for the switch is because it became obvious that WWE was not going to get the type of reaction from the audience that they wanted for Reigns, so now the rumor is that Lesnar will drop the title in Saudi Arabia not only to get a more positive reaction, but because WWE sees that country as an important partner and this could be a "perk" they were given.
LOL. Heyman also got re-signed, BTW.
:heyman
Paul Heyman's contract is tied to Brock Lesnar's and the belief is that Heyman will always be around as long as Lesnar is. Dave Meltzer on Wrestling Observer Radio said that Heyman could always stick around even if Lesnar leaves and in fact, the company already had another role lined up for him this year in the event that Lesnar decided not to re-sign.
For those wondering, last night is expected to be Paige's last appearance on TV. Her future projects with WWE include being featured on Total Divas next season as well as being used for promotion for the upcoming movie about her life.
The " twitter insiders" were saying Jeff Jarrett was going to be the GM
Charlotte breaks Asuka's streak, 2 days later loses to Carmella :rofl(https://data.whicdn.com/images/252036997/original.gif)
http://www.wwe.com/shows/greatest-royal-rumble/2018/undertaker-chris-jericho
rusev was supposed to face undertaker but why not go with someone bigger? :doge this greatest royal rumble show is gonna be wild, too bad its on at like 11am on a friday here.
A recent online report suggested that the reason WWE inserted Rusev into the fatal four way for the US Title at WrestleMania was to appease him due to the fact that he supposedly asked for his release. According to Dave Meltzer on a recent Wrestling Observer Radio that report was very likely untrue, however, late on Thursday after earlier being removed from the casket match against Undertaker, Rusev changed both his Instagram and Twitter pages (removing his name) and also added an email address for booking information. These changes seem to suggest he is no longer with WWE, but neither party has made any public statements so it's anyone guess what's going on.
Meltzer gave the ladder match and Gargano/Ciampa 5 stars. :omg
The highest rated WM match was the Rousey match at 4.25.
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HE'S FAT
https://twitter.com/usweekly/status/985689168989900800 :gloomy
You saying the heel turn is finally upon us?http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AusZBl1ztoI
According to an article in People, John Cena got "cold feet" as his wedding to Nikki Bella drew closer and ended their union, leaving his ex-fiancee "heartbroken." The two were supposed to get married May 5 in Mexico and got engaged last year at WrestleMania 33. Someone close to the couple told People:
QuoteShe never gave him an ultimatum. He talked a really good game about having changed, about having his priorities straight, about knowing what’s important, and that it was her. But as the day got closer, it was like he just went back to who he’s always been — which is someone who puts himself first, always. He’s an incredibly dedicated, driven, ambitious guy. And for the longest time he said he didn’t think he had room in his life for a spouse or kids. It seems like in the end that was still the truth. But in that case, he never should’ve proposed, let alone in front of millions of people. Now she’s heartbroken. This was supposed to be the happiest time of her life. He ruined it and blew everything up.
In what has been a weird and seemingly pointless series of developments, WWE has announced that Rusev vs. Undertaker in a Casket Match at the Greatest Royal Rumble is back on.:confused
Ziggler on Raw. Smackdown already looking up.
i also enjoy jinder but sacrifices must be made. also i guess seth is moving to sd?
Why wouldn't you just have Baron Corbin come out instead of doing a vignette? ???
Why wouldn't you just have Baron Corbin come out instead of doing a vignette? ???
At least he got a vignette, Mojo Rawley had to settle for an "exclusive wwe.com video"
I'll say Roode
seriously tho put the whole BC on Smackdown. Also was Alexa on at all tonight? Maybe she's moving
Moving to Raw
Jinder Mahal
Sunil Singh
Ruby Riott
Liv Morgan
Sarah Logan
Kevin Owens
Sami Zayn
Zack Ryder (announced via Twitter)
Tyler Breeze
Fandango
Natalya
Dolph Ziggler
Drew McIntyre
Konnor of Ascension (announced via Instagram)
Viktor of Ascension (announced via Instagram)
Mojo Rawley (announced via YouTube)
Baron Corbin
Bobby Roode
Mike Kanellis (announced via Twitter)
Chad Gable (announced via YouTube)
Moving to Smackdown
The Miz
It's like they took the entire SD under and midcard and moved them over to Raw this time around. If these guys were "lost in the shuffle" on SD, how are they going to fair any better on Raw, especially with all the returns/new additions from last week?at the least they can work matches on main event since that tapes at raw
The breakup is a big blow to the Bella Brand.
I don't see Strowman ever leaving Raw since Vince handles all of his segments personally
Alternatively, replace Gallows and Anderson with Titus, Apollo, and Dana Brooke.This I could see. Now that Shelton is solo I can see him joining Titus Worldwide and tagging with those guys.
This I could see. Now that Shelton is solo I can see him joining Titus Worldwide and tagging with those guys.
Sanity is coming to SD. Yay, nay? (I don't know them well but I already know Stro is gonna say nay :lol)I like them all except for Eric Young. Dude can go blow
btw Something to Wrestle is a real good podcast and I'm not in to 99.9% of wrasslin pods. Full recommendations.
No Nicki Cross.wait really? :-\ wtf is the point then
No Nicki Cross.wait really? :-\ wtf is the point then
Didn't watch the draft but it looks like SD won like it's 2002.
Those Steiner promos :lol
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VbvMbLiQLr8
I'm watching 2002-2006 Smackdown and Raw, basically up till I got cable since I was like 3/4 during 02 and 03 trying to watch Smackdown but not knowing when it came on, it's good for the most part. Smackdown more than Raw especiallySuch a good era of WWE. The roster was thick as hell with real power during that time. Really never was surpassed, though the current WWE roster is really just as strong (I could see the argument for even stronger as well).
WWE has received an emergency restraining order against a crazed fan after he posted messages on his Instagram account in what was interpreted as threats against the company and its wrestlers, according to TMZ.
The individual in question, Armando Alejandro Montalvo, has been reportedly harassing WWE and its employees since 2015 and has several incidents against him, including in July 2015 when he "smeared his own feces" all over the walls of the WWE Performance Center in Orlando. He continued with more bizarre stunts in the days that followed, threatening staff, banging on doors and wearing makeshift wrestling costumes. After already being warned to not appear on WWE property, police were called and Montalvo was actually shot at and charged with multiple offenses.
After once again being ordered to stay away from WWE facilities, Montalvo was seen outside an NXT taping at Full Sail University in March, uttering nonsense, harassing employees and challenging Vince McMahon to a fight. He was able to drive off before security could confront him. However, in the weeks that followed, Montalvo continued to post to his Instagram videos related to WWE and on April 4, his post was deemed a threat causing WWE to seek the restraining order. One of the company's claims is that he has threatened to use his own semen in a biological attack.
Anything happen tonight? I was napping. I did do a soft masturbation earlier.
Heel Shinsuke with that new hip-hop intro to stop people from chanting his theme :lolPeople are going to anyway but this is still a pretty great flip of his entrance. :bow
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7uP5cpdXaHg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7uP5cpdXaHg)
big poppa pump don't look so good these days
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F5ul6cXMhkk
According to Brad Shepard of Bodyslam.net, Sami Zayn is not expected to be at the Greatest Royal Rumble in Saudi Arabia. WWE apparently told Sami that he wasn’t needed at the show.
Sami reportedly shot a backstage segment with Kevin Owens to explain his absence. Here is a quote from Shepard about the reason:
Quote“The indication backstage is that he wasn’t included because he’s a Syrian Muslim. Saudi Arabia-Syria relations have long been strained”
Shepard adds that there was a lengthy list of rules for WWE Superstars to follow while they are in the country.
WWE's women's roster won't be part of Friday's Greatest Royal Rumble show, but it looks like the company have found a way to make it up to them.
According to Jerry Lawler on his latest Dinner With The King podcast, WWE plan on handing their female talents "a heck of a payday" as compensation for missing the show, though he gave no indication of the amount.
shoulda called into work today :'(
I feel bad for the little girl in the front dressed up like Bayley. :'(
I feel bad for the little girl in the front dressed up like Bayley. :'(
What type of especially stupid child would dress like Bailey? It deserves no pity.
Jericho cutting a promo with zero crowd reaction :rofl
The reason WWE brought in the sumo wrestler - Hiroki Sumi - for the 50-man Greatest Royal Rumble has a bit of a funny/bizarre back story to it. According to Dave Meltzer on Wrestling Observer Radio, the Prince of Saudi Arabia - who wanted the show to begin with - gave Vince McMahon a list of wrestlers that he wanted to see on the show when the two sides were negotiating.:money
While he listed a bunch of names, the key names he wanted on the show were The Ultimate Warrior, The Undertaker and Yokozuna. Because Yokozuna (and Warrior) have been dead for a long time, the word going around backstage was that Vince felt "compelled" to bring in someone who looked sort of like Yokozuna to appease the Prince.
:lol I was thinking about this during Raw when Cole mentioned Braun won "a championship" at the GRR, and wondered if that title was just gonna change hands at the GRR every year and go unmentioned til then. And if that's the case, there will probably be some hilarious conversations with the royal family when, inevitably, someone holding it gets dropped from the company in the interim between eventsQuoteThe reason WWE brought in the sumo wrestler - Hiroki Sumi - for the 50-man Greatest Royal Rumble has a bit of a funny/bizarre back story to it. According to Dave Meltzer on Wrestling Observer Radio, the Prince of Saudi Arabia - who wanted the show to begin with - gave Vince McMahon a list of wrestlers that he wanted to see on the show when the two sides were negotiating.:money
While he listed a bunch of names, the key names he wanted on the show were The Ultimate Warrior, The Undertaker and Yokozuna. Because Yokozuna (and Warrior) have been dead for a long time, the word going around backstage was that Vince felt "compelled" to bring in someone who looked sort of like Yokozuna to appease the Prince.
they should have brought back renegade warrior too
Braun got cheered while utterly destroying two hometown favorites last night. :lol I don't think it's possible to be more over than that.
What the FUCK at the AJ v Nak finish? That end was so bad that I’m like actually legit disappointed! That was a really fun match they had going!
What the FUCK at the AJ v Nak finish? That end was so bad that I’m like actually legit disappointed! That was a really fun match they had going!
I got super-bored after that awful Nia Jax/Bliss match, tuned out of a lot of the other stuff, and missed some of that. Guess that finish is why it wasn't the last match on the card.
The one thing I like about this PPV is the interaction between brands during that Elias segment.
I really wish I could understand what they're going for with AJ/Nak. Two of the best in the world, with "history in Japan" they keep hyping, then they keep having matches with abrupt shitty finishes and the whole angle now seems to be about balls. It went from DREAM MATCH to 3 matches in the span of a month, none of which were particularly satisfying, and in another era would be leading to some kind of amazingly stupid gimmick match.
If this was Russo Era or even TNA, I'd think we'd be in for something like a cup on a pole match, winner gets to protect his nuts from now on
I really wish I could understand what they're going for with AJ/Nak. Two of the best in the world, with "history in Japan" they keep hyping, then they keep having matches with abrupt shitty finishes and the whole angle now seems to be about balls. It went from DREAM MATCH to 3 matches in the span of a month, none of which were particularly satisfying, and in another era would be leading to some kind of amazingly stupid gimmick match.
that chair throw from AJ (and imo the whole match before the ending) deserves to be in the "Good" column
https://twitter.com/totaldivaseps/status/993317891134062592
:rofl
According to Dave Meltzer on Wrestling Observer Radio, Big Cass has the look and body type that WWE likes and so they will likely continue to push him over and over again even if he fails to get over with the audience.
I imagine it'll be Jinder vs Roman for a spot. Dunno how many people are in total but I imagine it'll be three from each side. So Finn, probably Roman, and one more from Raw.
Smackdown is doing The Miz vs. Jeff Hardy, Rusev vs. Daniel Bryan, and Charlotte vs. Peyton Royce for spots tonight.
Looking at those matches up there, it's probably gonna be a MITB of all former champs for the men. :-\
There definitely needs to be more shitting on Alvarez, that fucking hyperbolic weaselly moron. If you ever have the misfortune to read or listen to him, you'll never find a guy who was actually IN the business that understands it less. He seriously can't comprehend angles on Raw that 7 year olds get. He was a fucking wrestler! He sometimes still does matches!:badass
Wait, why does U.S. champ Jeff Hardy get a MiTB shot but IC champ Seth Rollins didn't? :dogeSeth said he didn't want a shot cause he already holds the most important belt on Raw :rollsafe
WWE used Kurt/AJ footage from TNA on Table for 3 and plugged GWN at the end of the show...and now it boosted their traffic so much their site can't handle it :lol :lol :lol:neogaf :money :money :money
Meanwhile for actually paying since day one all I've gotten is a shirt and a copy of the WM34 program :-\
Did you unsubscribe from promotional emails? They won't give you any free gifts if you do that, of course :doge
All you have to do is get a free trial is use a different email and putting in a different street address. You can use the same card endlessly. I haven't paid since the first 6 months.
According to a report at Pro Wrestling Sheet, Big Cass is in the doghouse because he went against a directive given to him before his segment at Smackdown two weeks ago. The segment in question was when Cass beat down a little person who was dressed up as Daniel Bryan.
The plan from WWE officials was for the attack to end after Cass hit the impersonator with a big boot, but Cass tried to lobby for a further beatdown that was turned down. However, Cass felt strongly about it that he went and approached Vince McMahon to get approval, but Vince also shot him down.
Despite no one approving the idea of the segment extending past the big boot, when it played out on TV, Cass ignored the explicit instructions by mounting the little person and unloaded with a series of punches. Backstage, officials were upset and it subsequently ended up with him in major hot water. That weekend, Cass lost his match against Daniel Bryan at Backlash (it's unclear if this was the idea all along or if the finish was changed after the events on TV) and then a few days later, he wasn't even used on Smackdown as we noted here.
On their YouTube recap of the segment, WWE edited out the footage of the punches, pretty much confirming that Cass went off script.
Doubt they're paying 1 billion for a taped show.
this segment w/ Bobby's "sisters"
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Brehs Okada/Omega was the best match of all time.
Punk lost again at UFC. Dana White is saying that's it for him.better not be before enzo >:(
...So when will we see Punk back in WWE? :doge
Punk lost again at UFC. Dana White is saying that's it for him.Considering that literally a few days before the fight he was in court defending against them suing for his entire net worth probably not anytime soon. If he showed up in the indie world at some point I'd not be surprised.
...So when will we see Punk back in WWE? :doge
Upon further review, I think I'd also rather see an Enzo return before a Punk return:mynicca
The Nia Jax/Ronda Rousey match is the best booking WWE has done in like, forever. The match was pretty good too.
There's been 22 MITB matches already!? ???I believe it, they did it at mania and at a separate ppv a year or two maybe and then you factor in having multiple per show on account of the brand split (which they seem to have stopped now since the women have their own mitb match too and four on one card would be way too goddamn many).
elias seems to be resonating w/ the crowd for almost a year now. lets give the belt back to dolph ziggler. that'll pay off for us. :doge
She did a great job channeling Stone Cold last night.
And then they kayfabe-suspend her for a month. :lol I hope that means run-ins and shit and not her actually being off TV for the next 30 days. :doge
https://twitter.com/WWE/status/1009147537268314119
:dayum :idont
Did he really get fired for going too far with a midget, like Reddit says?
Good, now get rid of Dolph once and for all.
RIP Vader. Can anyone refresh my memory as to why he never had a good WWE career? He was a fantastic big guy.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GsQkzFGD61U
Did you watch the G1 Special, Stro? Was Omega able to drag Cody to a decent match this time?It was okay, but they had to pull out a lot of gimmicks.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U0R9Gc20urI
Pure gold
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-dZGsd2rAY
Extreme Rules:
NAKAMURA VS. JEFF HARDY FOR THE U.S. TITLE FIRST TIME EVER HYPE IT UP WWE
Nakamura comes out and low blows Jeff, then the match starts and he pins him. :lol :doge
OH SHIT RANDY ORTON IS BACK TO FUCK UP SHIN
HAHA SWERVE Orton continues to beat up Jeff for no reason, then just leaves.
:confused
Roman loses again
:neogaf
Are they still seriously going to have him go over Lesnar at Summerslam? :lol
wait so is this the main event? fucking dolph ziggler?
Hulk Hogan is backstage at the PPG Paints Arena. Hogan wrote on Twitter hours before the start of Extreme Rules that he met with the locker room and formally apologized for his racist comments in 2015. It is unknown when or if he will be returning to TV.
We go to Charly Caruso backstage, who discusses Hulk Hogan being reinstated to the WWE Hall of Fame and that he is mingling backstage. She says that it's great to have "The Hulkster back in the family. She talks about an encounter she had with James Ellsworth earlier and says she was disgusted by him.
What's this about Hogan?
TVC, not upset at the Nakamura match, just scratching my head at the booking. What was the point of all that?(/b] ???wait so is this the main event? fucking dolph ziggler?
Thought it was over after the AJ/Rusev match and then found out this was left- LOL. Might as well be over early then.
I don’t know what you’re upset about. Vince’s tweaking of Nakamura’s gimmick into “Japanese dude that likes touching pee-pee” is great.
'Loses a bunch' is usually how they build up future world champs so probably. WWE is very stupid.Roman loses again
:neogaf
Are they still seriously going to have him go over Lesnar at Summerslam? :lol
we can only hope. the brock lesnar project wore out its welcome like two years ago. enough already
Vince's plan to make Lesnar hated, by doing the whole "He doesn't give a fuck because he's going back to UFC" thing, might be working now, but it's still not going to help at all to make the crowd like Reigns. I don't understand why Vince would even think that.
Cena never got a heel turn in spite of a decade of boos. Roman will be the same way, might as well accept it now and ignore his matches like I do.
also last night roman was getting the dueling "lets go roman/roman sucks" chants. been a while since i heard some pro-roman chants.
there's a new top guy in town now, brothers
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/372503124226867203/468430979099394070/trump-and-bobby-660x400.jpg)spoiler (click to show/hide)same as the old top guy :doge
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Even thickheaded Vince has got to see that Roman isn't the top guy they should be pushing (at least as a face).
Even thickheaded Vince has got to see that Roman isn't the top guy they should be pushing (at least as a face).
Narrator: "In fact, he did not see that"
https://twitter.com/WWE/status/1019020990674710528
So if the Sasha/Bayley team loses the next match, one of them is being "shipped off to Smackdown" as punishment. Fucking finally. They needed to be broken up for a while now.lol, a friend of mine is :maf at the thought of this happening, especially without a big send-off match.
Still making it out to be the B show, though?
So if the Sasha/Bayley team loses the next match, one of them is being "shipped off to Smackdown" as punishment. Fucking finally. They needed to be broken up for a while now.lol, a friend of mine is :maf at the thought of this happening, especially without a big send-off match.
Still making it out to be the B show, though?
Also Lana's accent is a weird thing. She doesn't use it in commercials that air during Raw and Smackdown, but then sorta half uses it on TV and doesn't use it at all for Total Divas. :idont
Mandy Rose's theme is really catchy
Damn only 46. :( Nikolai Volkoff passed too. RIP to them both
Damn only 46. :( Nikolai Volkoff passed too. RIP to them both
RIP Brickhouse Brown, too. Sexay hung himself in jail. :-\
Heard a lot of good things about TNA recently, so I checked out Slammiversary and it was actually a good show, felt fresh, had an interesting look since it was in the middle of a bar/club. Checked out Impact as well and it was also a pretty solid weekly TV show, certainly better than any Impact I've seen in many years. They seem to have a pretty open door policy for their roster these days, with a lot of their talent on other shows like Lucha Underground and MLW. They're definitely an alternative at the moment, with a good mix of pretty crazy spot fests, very bloody violent brawls, and actually paying attention to stories.
Speaking of MLW, I also watched Battle Riot, which was their first "special event" on BeIn Sports. They have a bizarre roster of a lot of the same TNA/Lucha Underground guys mixed with local Florida scene, 2010 WWE mid carders, and NXT wash outs. But they have Tony Schiavone calling the action, they air their show at 6:05 Eastern, Col. Robert Parker has revived the Studd Stable, and they have better production values than TNA or ROH somehow. Sadly, they've also added Matt Striker, who is as annoying as ever, seemingly speaking entirely in memes or references and then patting himself on the back and congratulating anyone that gets the references. Low Ki is currently their champion ( :lol ), Tom Lawler seems to be who they're building around, and I believe they put their weekly show on Youtube for free.
I wish I could figure out why Sami Callihan is so in demand right now, every place with a TV or internet show books this mother fucker and he's absolute garbage :trash :trash :trash A disgusting piece of shit who isn't good at anything except looking like legit white trash you'd find in a shithole like Dayton, not the cartoony white trash like the Wyatts or Sanity. He looks like someone covered a potato in snot.
The G1 Climax has been great as usual. Thankfully Block A is absolute trash so you can easily skip everything until Okada vs Tanahashi happens, which is nice for people like me who get exhausted watching the G1 even picking and choosing what to watch.Must See Tier
This is going high on MOTY list
- Ishii vs Ibushi
- Ishii vs Goto
- Goto vs Omega
- Naito vs Omega
- Naito vs Ishii
- Ishii vs ZSJ
- Ibushi vs ZSJ
- Ibushi vs Sanada
Worth a watch tier
- Juice vs Naito
- Juice vs Omega
- ZSJ vs Sanada
- Juice vs Ibushi
Ibushi is clearly the best dude in the world right now. Nonstop greatness with every opponent, each match a completely different style. Worth noting that the crowd doesn't exactly turn on Kenny in every match I've seen, but they definitely have wanted his opponent to win in all the matches I've seen but one. Crowd was 100% for Naito from the jump in their match, although Naito is the most over guy in the company so that's not super surprising.
I make too much money to be pirating shit.::)
TVC vs. Filler? Would that be the main event on a Bore Wrestling Alliance show? :thinking
On a somewhat related note, @WrestleVotes is reporting that some WWE officials feel that this year's SummerSlam lacks "excitement" with the event only 20 days away and that perhaps tonight on Raw, the company will make some moves to fix that.:doge
Like maybe Braun cashing in his MITB since this is probably the only time Brock will be at Raw until WM season?
I have no idea what any of the build up for SS is, the last show I watched was about an hour of Extreme Rules and the Network was shitting so hard I gave up completely and never went to finish it. I haven't even looked at any TV results since then. What's AJ doing at SS?
I turned on Raw to see Brock throwing a cell phone at the wall and then sitting down to read some outdoors magazne with a smirk on his face. I assume that was the pinnacle of the show tonight.
They're seriously going to have Braun lose the briefcase, aren't they? :stahp
Oh yeah because I want Roman to keep chasing the championship in spite of nobody but mark ass Stro caring about him.
Just give it to him and get it over with.
He gets very excited when he sees some crazy shit or an old dude pops up that he used to know, then baffled at some modern indie fuckery type shit, but it's nice to have him back. Kind of crazy no one was able to get him to call wrestling for almost 20 years. Who the fuck is bankrolling MLW? Their roster and production seems like they'd be burning through money.
Rumors are Brock is going to continue working with WWE and do UFC at the same time again. LMAO if he ends up keeping the belt.
Unless Brock/Roman start their match with some crazy spot and like, destroy the ring/set/everything at ringside, crowd is going to shit so hard on that match. They're obviously going to shit on Roman regardless, but the build for the match is they also want smarks and marks alike to resent Brock. There's no good outcome crowd wise outside of a cash in.Could do another mid-match cash in, even though they just did that...and they did it to Roman/Bork before. Maybe do that and have Roman get pinned so Bork doesn't take an L. Kinda no matter what they do it is gonna be dumb at this point, just because of how many times Roman has flopped against Bork :yeshrug :heh
Would it be more :lol to have Roman finally beat Brock and then have an immediate cash in and lose (which they already did with him once but it did work pretty well) or have Brock beat Roman AGAIN and then Braun/KO swoop in and steal a win on him while Roman cries and giant dadded again?
asuka leaving wwe?
Dirt sheets this morning are also saying that house shows are advertising Roman vs. Braun for future shows, so I guess one of them is going heel. Hope it's Roman. But it won't be. :-\Cash in time :rejoice
Should I go to thisi hear hoodslam is pretty fun. you might have a chance to get covered in fake cocaine by someone named drugs bunny/possibly get away with doing real cocaine openly
https://www.eventbrite.com/e/hoodslam-sexy-anime-wrestling-show-tickets-48739938468?aff=efbeventtix
fuck all the ambrose haters :maf
Should I go to thisi hear hoodslam is pretty fun. you might have a chance to get covered in fake cocaine by someone named drugs bunny/possibly get away with doing real cocaine openly
https://www.eventbrite.com/e/hoodslam-sexy-anime-wrestling-show-tickets-48739938468?aff=efbeventtix
The next guy said that he was burned out by the main roster and the only show he is looking forward to is NXT. He said that SummerSlam would go too long while NXT is crisp and on point. He asked H is sometimes he wishes he could step back and put the NXT approach to the main roster. H said he wishes he could fly and walk on water. He said everyone has opinions on things and they are free to express them. H is happy he likes NXT. He again said people have different likes and dislikes. The great thing for WWE is that they don’t have a shy fan base and the fans will let them know. He said eventually they hear the fan base. He said that they encourage the fans to let them know what they think.
Is it me or has New Day outlived their gimmick? I dunno what else they could even do but I really don't get what they can still do with it.
Is there anyon less interesting than Randy Orton? You people shit on Dolph, but Orton is orders of magnitude less interesting as a person.(https://memegenerator.net/img/instances/61225439/hey-hey-nothing-you-can-say.jpg)
Damn, gave it to Rhonda already. Is there a MITB case to cash in?
Jesus the Bella twins are hideous. Look like things that would be crawling out of your TV at 3am.:huh
Jesus the Bella twins are hideous. Look like things that would be crawling out of your TV at 3am.
Rhonda’s makeup is fucking terrible.
AJ vs. Joe was very good and was one of the few matches where a DQ finish was fine since it helps segue into HiaC.
Rollins vs. Ziggler and Bryan vs. Miz were fineEverything else sucked.spoiler (click to show/hide)but kinda boring after spending a month watching G1[close]
While there are still other options on the table, Dave Meltzer said on Wrestling Observer Radio that WWE is considering main eventing Evolution with Ronda Rousey vs. Nikki Bella. The idea is to headline with their two biggest mainstream stars.
On Observer Radio, backstage plans for turning Asuka heel were also discussed.
During his post TakeOver: Brooklyn 4 media call, Triple H said Johnny Gargano’s knee injury was legitimate. While there’s still some question as to how serious it was, PW Insider says it did result in the finish of his match with Tommaso Ciampa being changed, although the plan was always for Ciampa to retain the NXT title.
If all you can come up with is a squash on PPV, the match doesn't need to be booked.
So Roman just came out to both cheers and boos. Guess the Cenafication is in full effect.
He was still getting audible cheers. Sounded a lot like what Cena usually gets so I made a note of it :yeshrug
Is Braun not being allowed to cash in his new gimmick?
According to Dave Meltzer on Wrestling Observer Radio, Becky Lynch turning on Charlotte Flair is not something that surprised WWE officials. The entire storyline has been planned from day one with the expectation that the audience in New York would pop bigtime for Lynch attacking Flair as she has been built as an underdog babyface. Ultimately, it is not a heel turn much like what has happened with the Sasha Banks and Bayley storyline over on Raw.
QuoteAccording to Dave Meltzer on Wrestling Observer Radio, Becky Lynch turning on Charlotte Flair is not something that surprised WWE officials. The entire storyline has been planned from day one with the expectation that the audience in New York would pop bigtime for Lynch attacking Flair as she has been built as an underdog babyface. Ultimately, it is not a heel turn much like what has happened with the Sasha Banks and Bayley storyline over on Raw.
:confused
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EHbQe7QJjNQ
looks like they're set on ruining Braun now :yuck
looks like they're set on ruining Braun now :yuck
Gotta get Roman over!
Former WWE Universal champion Brock Lesnar is backstage at tonight's WWE Hell in a Cell, the first time he's been backstage at a WWE show since dropping the title at SummerSlam. According to PW Insider, Lesnar is walking around in the back in full view of all the other talent and officials, so the company is not making any attempt to hide him as they usually do for surprise appearances. As such, it remains unclear if Lesnar is scheduled to appear on camera at the PPV tonight.
Matt Hardy is backstage at Hell in a Cell, after apparently retiring from in-ring competition after last night's house show in Corpus Christi. This isn't really a surprise as Hardy has been backstage at recent WWE events working as a producer.
Nia Jax, who has been off of TV while nursing a reported leg injury, is also backstage tonight at the PPV but whether she is involved in the show is also unknown.
Didn't train grip strength enough imo
Randy Orton just took a screwdriver, put it through Jeff Hardy's ear-pierce hole, and twisted it. :yuck
#HIAC 2018 folks.
This is gunning for WWE show of the year if Roman/Braun is as great as their previous matches
I thought I was sick of Bork Laser but maybe I'm just sick of Bork as champion? Because I (and the people I was watching with) all popped pretty big when his music hit and he kicked in the cell door then just beat the shit out of Braun and Roman with table pieces and eventually was all "I'ma beat the shit out of a dude with another dude, fuck it"
I can get behind using him this way but still don't want to have the title on him long term.
This isn’t terribly surprising, but seeing the numbers laid out like this is pretty eye-opening.
Over at our sister site MMAFighting, Dave Meltzer reports Brock Lesnar is still training for a return to UFC. A deal hasn’t been signed for his next fight in the Octagon, however, which is probably part of why we saw him kick the door off a cage in WWE last night (Sept. 16) at Hell in a Cell.
The other reason is because Vince McMahon’s company is getting a lot of money from the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia to run shows in that country over a ten year contract signed earlier this year. The events, which feature pro-government propaganda that’s drawn the ire of fans and human rights groups, started with this spring’s Greatest Royal Rumble. Meltzer writes that based on WWE’s business statements it appears the company added $45 million in revenue from that one date - more than even an event like WrestleMania generates.
Brock wrestled Roman Reigns in Jeddah on that April 27 show, and his appearance on pay-per-view (PPV) Sunday night was to set-up another Universal title match on WWE’s yet-to-be-announced Nov. 2 return to Saudi Arabia. It’s not known if he’ll face Reigns one-on-one or if it will be a Triple Threat with Braun Strowman. It does look like Lesnar will get a check for an amount “well into the seven figures” for the trip.
MMAFighting’s report confirms again that Brock is in the USADA testing pool, meaning the clock is again ticking on his suspension for testing positive around his last UFC fight and indicating he is serious about a return. But with no deal signed for the teased fight with heavyweight and light heavyweight champ Daniel Cormier and a bunch of Saudi money on the table, the Beast is back in WWE for at least one more match.
As much as I hate that this part-time pr*ck is still around, it's hilarious to see the dirtsheets trying to save face after they all said he was gone.:neogaf
MMAFighting’s report confirms again that Brock is in the USADA testing pool
Also, Paige is very creepy looking with her overinflated plastic lips.
Who could have predicted that Truth would end up being one of the most genuinely entertaining performers in the WWE at the beginning of the year?
Anyone watch the Australia show? I saw the last half of the Undertaker vs. Triple H match and it was depressingly horrible.
Father time. :fbm
I got two hours into the Aussie show and then couldn't stay awake anymore. I was partially thinking 'man Bryan's match is still coming up but I can't keep my eyes open' and then it turned out that match was like a five minute shit show so I didn't miss anything anyway. :doge
Is Ambrose turnings heel? Oh boy, this is likely going to culminate in some shitty Ambrose vs Roman thing, isn’t it?
man that WON report about NJPW is concerning. i hope it's Meltzer crying wolf but it would really fucking blow if things went south for them
The new management team for NJPW headed up by Harold Meij has apparently ruffled a few feathers within the promotion. According to a recent report from the Wrestling Observer Newsletter, some NJPW talent are even considering leaving the company.:leon
In particular, there appears to be some backlash toward Meij himself.
“The initial reaction was that the feeling was that he talks down to the wrestlers,” Meltzer wrote. He then continued to say many of the wrestlers are concerned he has no history in the business as well.
Moral amongst some has changed enough that they are considering leaving the company.
“There are people who in the past had never even considered WWE who are thinking about it, and others who were completely committed to staying who are probably still leaning that way, but are considering the WWE option.”
man that WON report about NJPW is concerning. i hope it's Meltzer crying wolf but it would really fucking blow if things went south for them
???
Let’s just say that the next few months are going to be very interesting. Some early contract offers made have raised some concern to go along with the issues mentioned in last week’s issue. While there is a lot of pride here for the quality of the matches stemming from the Kobe and Long Beach shows during what is usually the post-G-1 down period, and the great reaction to G-1 and its business success, but the new regime (Harold Meij and new General Manager Michael Craven) is very different and not experienced in dealing with wrestlers. There may be economics that we’re not aware of, but there was a lot about the U.S. expansion with enthusiasm, between the new dojo and running a regular California and West Coast second circuit (which I don’t think would have been a good idea) and the pull back from there, and other changes. But it feels like a lot has changed in the last 30 days. Craven, who is believed to be the head of talent relations as well as international expansion, may be the most unpopular guy among the wrestlers with the new regime. Craven I believe was the Tech Business Director at Hays Japan, managing technology recruitment for a company and had worked in IT recruitment for 20 years. He has lived in Japan since 1998, coming from the U.K. and has been involved in developing many of the top senior level technology executives in Asia. The initial reaction was that the feeling was that he talks down to the wrestlers and made strange comments and they know he has no background in wrestling, which is a very unique industry. Morale with the company was very high as you could tell by any interviews with the talent, particularly during G-1 where the level of work had led to high pride across the board with the feeling they were doing the best matches in the world and producing the best overall product. Now the morale is more weird than anything, with more uncertainty about what will happen next and less confidence than with the old administration. Another person noted that the new team has gotten off to a rough start and that all the wrestlers, both Japanese and American, are talking about how they feel like they are seen as workers in a factory assembly line as opposed to high level athletes or entertainers. The excitement so many had for working here has taken a hit. It’s really a bad time for that with the goal of international expansion and that fun vs. WWE money was a key to a lot of people, but if you lower the fun aspect, that changes the equation, and basically we’re coming in on the single most interesting and important contract season since New Japan started garnering some international growth. There are people who in the past had never even considered WWE who are thinking about it, and others who were completely committed to staying who are probably still leaning that way, but are considering the WWE option.
“We are currently monitoring the situation,” a WWE rep said in a statement sent out to media outlets.
0% chance that show gets cancelled. WWE didn't miss any shows when one of their active talents murdered his wife and kid.
Several United States senators, led by Chris Murphy of Connecticut - WWE's home state - have urged the company to reconsider the upcoming Crown Jewel show in Saudi Arabia and pause their overall relationship with the country. In an Independent Journal Review article, Murphy had this to say:Quote“Because [Linda McMahon] is part of the president’s cabinet […] the administration really should give it some thought and maybe even prevail upon them not doing it. I’d hope that they would be rethinking their relationship with the kingdom especially with respect to events coming up in the next weeks like [WWE Crown Jewel]"
-- Other senators on the Senate Foreign Relations committee also expressed concern over Crown Jewel including Chris Coons who at first acted surprised by the news regarding the future event before saying that the company “should be taking a hard look” at its relationship with the kingdom moving forward. Added Senator Lindsey Graham: “There should be a pause."
-- WWE has declined comment other than releasing a brief statement saying that they are "monitoring the situation" but internally, the company is making back up plans in case they are forced to stop the event. One of the working ideas is to move the major matches to Survivor Series, but to cancel the World Cup tournament.
-- In a recent interview with The Sun, WWE EVP Triple H made a statement that took many observers off guard by claiming that he isn't sure if Vince McMahon has ever watched an episode of NXT from beginning-to-end:
“I don’t know that he’s ever even watched a full episode of NXT start to finish. He’s busy. “He will pick up a lot from bits and pieces from what he sees. To me it’s always amazing – his insight of things. I realise he just saw a snippet but what he will say about that snippet is a bigger overall arc to the entire product, and I’m like, ‘That’s really right.’ I think it’s great that he doesn’t see all of it because it gives him a different perspective. It gives him an outsider view on it.”
-- Triple H made the comments in London while announcing the debut of NXT UK – which airs on the WWE Network next Wednesday October 17. He added that he isn't sure if Vince will watch the new NXT UK but that he is "very keen and very excited for the international expansion... for the future of the business." NXT UK airs on the WWE Network at 8pm Wednesday October 17
I mean I wasn't a fan of the dude, but didn't want this to happen :-\
Good luck to him and I want to see him back now.
The RE thread immediately turned into bitching about Roman's booking/wrestling, then bitching at each other over it as a few of the community regulars desperately try to let people know that isn't a group of miserable miscreants and they aren't normally like this :lol :lolhttp://www.thebore.com/forum/index.php?topic=45505.0
If he comes back, I can see him getting a massive, HHH-returning-from-quad-injury level pop. Hope he beats it.he's made for life whenever he does come back. but fuck, i lost an aunt to leukemia and its just a devastating disease. hopefully him already being in excellent shape helps him beat this.
That match ended up being quite good though. Opening match was full of terrible botched but that's what you get for putting Lita in a 15 minute matcu in 2018
Evolution is pretty bad.
Two of Shayna Bazler's friends interfered in the NXT title match and the referee didn't call a disqualification because.
The battle royale was the pre-show match. It was not memorable except I think Nia Jax knocked Tamina Snuka unconscious by throwing Zelina at her.
Also, they've already run four or five promotionals about how revolutionary/evolutionary/inspiring/empowering this show is. I understand the show is important, but please stop patting yourself on the back for 10 minutes. It's all tell and no show.
I thought it was pretty good once they got past the opener and battle royal. The 6 man was a lot of fun and had a lot of fun spots and good tag psychology, MYC finals was a full on joshi match, NXT match was a psychology heavy match with a year of history going into it, Becky/Charlotte was a stunt show, and Ronda/Nikki was a sports entertainment match. Four completely different styles and matches that were all pretty good, with a super hot crowd and the MYC/NXT presentation.
It was certainly a better show than the Australia one.
That was the only match I skipped. :lol Just tired of seeing that feud. Time to move on already.Evolution is pretty bad.
Two of Shayna Bazler's friends interfered in the NXT title match and the referee didn't call a disqualification because.
Are those the other two "horsewomen" who are with Ronda? I thought the idea was to do a horsewomen vs. horsewomen feud (Becky, Charlotte, Sasha, and Bayley are the other set IIRC) but guess that's not happening anytime soon.
The New Day just came out dressed like the Brood to their theme music :roflhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lxkmgbmjKW4
So did anyone watch SD?
In the most recent edition of The Wrestling Observer Newsletter, Dave Meltzer provided more information about the reasons behind Bryan's refusal to go to Saudi Arabia. Meltzer stated that Daniel knew very little about Saudi Arabia until he performed at the WWE Greatest Royal Rumble pay-per-view earlier this year, and revealed that Bryan believed he couldn't go back under those circumstances.
Meltzer further noted that Bryan's decision had little to do with women not being allowed to compete at WWE Crown Jewel, but that the Superstar had learnt about Saudi Arabia's treatment of homosexuals, and about Saudi Arabia not allowing Sami Zayn, who is of Syrian descent, to perform on the show, which he felt was racist.
According to The Observer, Bryan wanted The Miz to win the number one contender's match in Australia last month, although Meltzer was unsure if it was because Bryan knew the WWE Championship match would take place in Saudi Arabia, or if Bryan felt it wasn't the right time for him to pick up a conclusive win during their feud.
not to advocate for the dude, but how is that not the perfect opportunity to just give Hulk the world cup win instead of Shane?
I missed the first two hoursish of it and just caught the utter insanity. :doge Well aside from The New Day rolling in on a magic carpet. :lolThe show sounds like one huge "fuck you" troll from the WWE. I have to watch this now :lol
It was a very straight show with actually pretty interesting presentation of announcing all the acomplishments of each guy in the tournament before the match, serious pre-match promos, and so forth...until Brock/Braun, and then it was just a train of :lol and :wtf for the next hour and a half.
Idk that would make Dolph an American Badass :jeanluc
(https://i.imgur.com/fqSHQuw.png)
:dead
Idk that would make Dolph an American Badass :jeanluc
(https://i.imgur.com/fqSHQuw.png)
:dead
I don't know anything about Japanese wrestling, and not much about wrestling in general. But this seems like a ridiculous made-up story posted by a guy who doesn't know the WWE pays for coffee when it negotiates at the cafe. And the Japanese guy was probably polite about it and stayed for the entire pitch.
it's a joke. he's pulled that stunt on the Japanese media a couple times lol https://www.sescoops.com/naito-pulls-yet-another-dine-and-dash-on-tokyo-sports-what-else-should-the-b-team-do-for-a-victory-celebration-poll/
WWE sources have confirmed that starting this Monday, Raw will indeed no longer have any overrun. In the past, the overrun lasted anywhere from 4 minutes up to 15 minutes, as a carry over from the Raw vs. Nitro days. The impacts of this will be fairly minimal apart from having a minor effect on ratings and forcing WWE to begin their main angle each Monday a few minutes earlier than normal and finishing on the dot at 11 PM ET.
It is believed that Brock Lesnar agreed to a new deal with WWE around 10/18 but as noted, terms are being kept in strictest confidence. Lesnar will be wrestling at Survivor Series, but not at the TLC PPV. It's unclear if he will be at the Royal Rumble, though that event is being held in a stadium so he will probably be there. Lesnar also has a planned match at WrestleMania 35.
According to the latest Wrestling Observer Newsletter, there is supposed to be a "significant angle" that is expected to push his storyline forward into next year and it will include wrestlers other than Braun Strowman. Seth Rollins - who mentioned Lesnar's name on Raw - and Drew McIntyre - who is being groomed as a main eventer - are the top two candidates.
According to a report at PWInsider, Braun Strowman is his "own worst enemy" backstage, often showing up late to events and leaving early as well. The report adds that Strowman has had trouble backstage with "etiquette" and often makes a misstep right before WWE officials are ready to commit to him as the next big star in WWE and someone to build the Raw brand around, causing the company to cool off on his push.
If this report is true, it could explain why WWE steered away from crowning Strowman as the Universal Champion at Crown Jewel, choosing instead to extend Brock Lesnar's tenure with the company and putting the title back on him in a match that many people viewed as a squash.
WWE officials continue to be extremely high on Drew McIntyre and according to WrestleVotes, they have felt this way for "months" and are readying him for a significant push in 2019. Bryan Alvarez on Wrestling Observer Live added that Drew is likely penciled in to be the Universal Champion sooner rather than later.
Coupled with the earlier report about Braun Strowman as well as Roman Reigns' indefinite absence, it's possible that WWE will now begin grooming McIntyre as not only a future Universal Champion, but the one to dethrone Brock Lesnar - either next year at Royal Rumble or more likely at WrestleMania 35.
There is a concern backstage that Alexa Bliss could be sidelined a while due to what is being reported as post-concussion syndrome. Not only is she not booked for Survivor Series which is two weeks away, but Bliss' line on Raw that she could "get used to this" (an authority role) has some believing that she isn't expected back in the ring anytime soon.
Bray Wyatt continues to be off TV and rarely used at live events simply because WWE has nothing for him creatively. The hope is that by keeping him away from TV and events, when he comes back, it will be a complete refresh and a surprise. Wyatt has been without a program ever since his partner Matt Hardy was taken off of TV to rehab his injuries.
"10-20-30 years from now, there's no reason we can't be as big [as] or bigger than Disney," [Stephanie] McMahon said. "Now that's a tall order, especially given recent transactions. However, there's no reason why we can't get there.":gurl
Was Drew over as a babyface when he came back to NXT or was he a heel?the crowd went wild for him but they go wild for everyone. he was positioned as a babyface but goddamn he's the most boring fucker imaginable. however he fits the mold of tall and stacked like vince wants so i'm not surprised he's gonna be the dude til roman returns.
dirtsheets are stupid as fuck. two days ago it was "strowman didn't get the title cause he's injured and we can 100% tell cause of how he's walking" to now it's "strowman didn't get the title cause he's fucking up backstage and our source 100% confirms it" :lol
Was Drew over as a babyface when he came back to NXT or was he a heel?the crowd went wild for him but they go wild for everyone. he was positioned as a babyface but goddamn he's the most boring fucker imaginable. however he fits the mold of tall and stacked like vince wants so i'm not surprised he's gonna be the dude til roman returns.
Both Fightful.com and WrestleVotes are reporting that Sunday's big match between Becky Lynch and Ronda Rousey is off after injuries suffered by Lynch last night on Raw.
Lynch was examined by WWE doctors after Raw and was reportedly found to have a black eye, a concussion and a broken nose and she was not able to travel with the rest of the Smackdown roster to St. Louis - the site of tonight's show. For those asking who or how Lynch was injured, it is not entirely visible from the camera shots, but the injury was caused by Nia Jax and while initially there was no heat on her backstage, reports suggest that that "sentiment has changed."
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With Becky Lynch seemingly out of this Sunday's Survivor Series match against Ronda Rousey due to a concussion and a broken nose, WWE is scrambling to figure out a new program for WWE Raw Women's Champion Rousey for the PPV. PWInsider also confirms that Lynch is sidelined and they report that officials are discussing a scenario where Becky will quickly drop the title to another woman, who would then go onto face Rousey on Sunday.
Under this scenario, Charlotte Flair, Mandy Rose and one of the IIconics have been discussed as possible replacements, but with Charlotte that would be a significant fast track of a potential WrestleMania 35 main event whereas the other two would be a significant downgrade and would not make much sense.
As noted before, another possibility is that WWE keeps the title on Lynch and simply pushes back her match against Rousey to next year's Royal Rumble in January.
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As reported, Becky Lynch has apparently suffered a concussion and a broken nose after being stiffed last night by Nia Jax in the Raw vs. Smackdown brawl. While WWE cameras did not catch Jax's shot to Lynch, a short clip by a fan in attendance as made its way online which you can see below.
Rumor has it that while WWE officials originally were not blaming Jax for the injury, the sentiment has changed and she may be facing considerable backstage heat for carelessly injuring one of the company's top stars and very likely screwing up arguably the most anticipated match for this weekend's Survivor Series.
I don't think Becky is really a heel to begin with, but weird they'd blow Charlotte/Ronda on 5 days notice when that has been the planned WM match, possibly even WM main event, for a year now.
I don't think Becky is really a heel to begin with, but weird they'd blow Charlotte/Ronda on 5 days notice when that has been the planned WM match, possibly even WM main event, for a year now.
the cool bork
not...you know
https://twitter.com/WWE/status/1062540897638707200
What is it with AJ always getting low blows? :lol
https://twitter.com/WWE/status/1062540897638707200
What is it with AJ always getting low blows? :lol
He's got too many kids already, no more for him
I'm surprised they put the strap on him again since he had to relinquish titles twice due to being beat to hell. Evil D Bry Vs. Bork should be cool, Guerrero that shit my dude!
Bryan's already dead so it doesn't matter if Brock kills him. :aahI'm surprised they put the strap on him again since he had to relinquish titles twice due to being beat to hell. Evil D Bry Vs. Bork should be cool, Guerrero that shit my dude!
Betting that they didn't want AJ getting beaten down by Brock again, so now it's Daniel Bryan who will get squashed!
:ryker
Punk was best as a commentator. :doge'I always watch NXT with my pants off!'
Cole actually apologized on air during the MYC for saying all the humiliating shit he said during that season.
https://deadspin.com/ex-wwe-wrestler-enzo-amore-got-kicked-out-of-the-crowd-1830527959
filler’s fave still makin’ dem headlines. Maybe when filler returns to The Bore, Enzo will return to the ring.
PWInsider reports that Amore did not interact with any talent while in the backstage area (as he was there for about 10 seconds) but that there were "some pretty angry wrestlers" and that as per WWE policy, all of their talent was likely instructed to refrain from making any public comments. Another source reached out to say the reaction backstage was not as serious as that but that many simply shook their heads and felt "disappointed and embarrassed" for Enzo.
I hope they never get called up.
I liked Survivor Series when the matches settled grudges in a team combat format. I can't imagine why anyone would care whether one show or the other has bragging rights over another.
Oh, and I thought the WWE fans liked Ronda Rousey, but I guess I was sorely mistaken on that point.
Yeah that's the first time she's been booed. I don't think itll make much of an impact on her overall though. The crowd will always pop for whoever is using a weapon in match, no matter what their character is supposed to be.
They weren't just booing...they were chanting "thank you Charlotte." Maybe that was also just for the heel turn everyone wanted?
:idont
I can't believe it just dawned on me that 205 is purple because it's Smackdown and Raw colors combined :lol :lol :lol
Team Blue is not doing well after being swept by Raw in the battle for brand supremacy at Survivor Series on Sunday night. Just how does SmackDown LIVE’s leadership plan to move the brand forward?
That’s what The Miz is hoping to find out when he hosts Shane McMahon to get the “State of the State” tonight on “Miz TV.” What will Shane McMahon have to say as Team Blue looks to move past the stunning outcome of Sunday night?
"the new daniel bryan." ok lol
WWE's Smackdown preview text:QuoteTeam Blue is not doing well after being swept by Raw in the battle for brand supremacy at Survivor Series on Sunday night. Just how does SmackDown LIVE’s leadership plan to move the brand forward?
That’s what The Miz is hoping to find out when he hosts Shane McMahon to get the “State of the State” tonight on “Miz TV.” What will Shane McMahon have to say as Team Blue looks to move past the stunning outcome of Sunday night?
NONE OF THIS HAPPENED. :lol
What a shitty follow-up to Survivor Series this was. And Charlotte, after going full heel on Ronda, comes out and takes on both Iiconics? Is she supposed to be a face? A tweener? Who knows?
Survivor Series is kind of non-canon character wise and has been since the original brand split. Brand loyalty trumps everything, so unless you turn on someone from your own show, it doesn't really count.
:yeshrug thinking too much about WWE continuity in 2018 brehs
Did something happen to AJ now, too? He wasn't on SD last night and is no longer on Mixed Match Challenge.
Is there a known reason Asuka ended up on the shit list?Not White. :trumps
Is there a known reason Asuka ended up on the shit list?
She's not on the shit list and has the second most matches won this year in the entire company, all brands. She's just not Charlotte or Becky so there is no story for her, just like there's no story for any of the women on Raw that aren't Ronda or her opponent.
Is there a known reason Asuka ended up on the shit list?
Sat through Raw expecting to see Bray Wyatt come back and save Finn Balor from the beatdown at the end of the show.
Joke's on me!
:neogaf
How did things get this bad when the main event is Baron Corbin vs. Finn Balor? And the new big heel faction is Corbin, Lashley, and Drew?
:neogaf :neogaf
Been out of the loop. What happened to my beloved Dolph?
That was one of the worst episodes of Raw I’ve ever seen
There was almost nothing to like about this week’s episode of Monday Night Raw:
- One of the biggest reasons WWE has been stale for what feels like a decade is that they constantly go back to the well with the authority figure angles, and more often than not it’s a heel trying to hold back a babyface. There aren’t a lot of characters who can make this work, and there aren’t any who are currently on the WWE roster. We saw this all throughout the evening, with Baron Corbin running wild and even creating another authority figure, this one for the women’s division in Alexa Bliss. You won’t be surprised to learn that led to a segment where she was immediately feuding with two babyfaces over that power dynamic.
- Whatever happened to those reports/rumors that Vince McMahon hates factions? It sure feels like we’ve seen some variation of a treacherous trio on damn near every episode of Raw for the past six months, no matter how little it makes sense. Here, we got Corbin, Bobby Lashley, and Drew McIntyre. They ran roughshod over Elias, one of the only babyfaces who gets cheered consistently, and then did the same to Finn Balor, who has been utterly lost since he got injured was forced to drop the Universal championship. That was two years ago, by the way.
- That’s another big issue with this show. Everything is heat. It’s never ending. There are no babyface wins to be found.
- Oh, wait, there was a babyface win to be found -- Seth Rollins issued an Intercontinental championship open challenge and defeated his opponent with the Falcon Arrow, which was a nice change of pace. The problem? Dolph Ziggler was the guy who answered said challenge. I don’t care who the two wrestlers are, I can’t get into a match if I’ve already seen it 748 times this year.
- Speaking of Rollins, we got a pre-tape segment with Dean Ambrose where he cut a promo about how Rollins is sick and there’s no medicine to cure him while a doctor was shooting a needle into his ass because he needed a rabies shot.
- The Lucha House Party are working a gimmick where they can basically do what they want as a trio in tag team matches under their own rules, where things like tagging in and out and being the legal man don’t matter. They are doing this as babyfaces.
- Nia Jax cut one of the worst promos of all time that may have actually hurt whatever heat she got for being terrible at her job and legitimately hurting an opponent. I’ve never seen an arena go from booing a heel to sitting on their hands cringing at every word. Ronda Rousey interrupted this promo, where Jax was verbally assaulting her, and she came to the ring smiling from ear to ear because the fans were cheering her. She even stopped the show, if only for a few seconds, to tell the crowd how much she appreciates them cheering for her. Then it was her turn to cut a bad promo where she did the weird voice fluctuation thing and at one point seemed to forget her lines. It was so uncomfortable. To top it off, Jax responded to a challenge for a fight by saying “I’m stalling for time” before everyone just stood around. Finally, Natalya’s music hit and she ran in. That’s what she was stalling for? Then Nattie was attacked by The Riott Squad before she could even get to the ring and Ruby Riott, Liv Morgan, and Sarah Logan were easily beaten back by the Raw women’s champion in a matter of seconds. The segment just sort of ended after that. Bad promos, terrible storytelling, awful timing — this was a disjointed mess that went nowhere. One of the worst segments of the year.
- AOP won a match because Drake Maverick pissed on a robe.
- After Ember Moon won a match against Alicia Fox, No Way Jose came out for his match against Jinder Mahal. He, of course, had his conga line and Renee Young could be heard on commentary saying “Ember Moon hates dancing” while Moon was dancing and smiling in the conga line.
- Alexa Bliss booked a segment where Sasha Banks and Bayley would have an “open forum” to answer questions from the audience. After announcing this, Banks and Bayley went on Twitter and mentioned women’s tag team titles as a way to promote the segment. They were asked precisely one question: “what would you change about the women’s division?” That left the door wide open to bring up the aforementioned women’s tag team titles. Instead, they ran down Bliss, because, again, this show has to be all about whoever the authority figure is at any given time. The segment ended when Alicia Fox, Mickie James, and Dana Brooke randomly ran in and attacked.
Again, this was one of the worst episodes of Monday Night Raw I have ever had the displeasure of watching. It is a show entirely dependent on stars and it has no stars, because the man in charge of making them doesn’t seem to know how to do so or caters to part timers who don’t want to show up every week.
- After Ember Moon won a match against Alicia Fox, No Way Jose came out for his match against Jinder Mahal. He, of course, had his conga line and Renee Young could be heard on commentary saying “Ember Moon hates dancing” while Moon was dancing and smiling in the conga line.
Watch Raw brehs :mjlol
This was so bad it's almost- naw, it's just bad. Nia is awful. Tamina...stands there. :lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZfWt6TTHRSA
lowest rated raw ever last night
i wonder why :neogaf
Smackdown and The New Daniel Bryan :rejoice
Turned it off before it got to this part. Enjoyed the intensity of the opening segment with Charlotte, Asuka, and Becky...and that was about it. Them ignoring crazy-psycho-heel Charlotte from Survivor Series and keeping her a face is so stupid.yeah that is dumb, especially since she keeps saying she beat Ronda and everyone else is like "wtf no you lost". :lol
There's something amazing about all these nerds begging for the end of Cena/Roman and when it finally happens, they get 3 hours centered around Baron Corbin as a heel authority figure :dead
I saw a thread on The Coli that Dean Ambrose is now Bane wtf :lol :lol
Reading wrestling threads on The Bire :jeanluc:samoa
Seth Rollins opened WWE’s flagship television show by admitting the show we are all watching has sucked for the better part of a month.
Rollins knows Raw is bad, he listed the many reasons why Raw is bad, all while fans watched the opening segment of Raw. The reigning Intercontinental champion even brought up Raw’s sinking TV ratings multiple times during his promo.
Then General Manager Elect Baron Corbin came out and Rollins blamed everything on him. WWE copping to having produced a bad show for weeks on end and then throwing Corbin under the bus for all it, was a very WWE thing to do.
Anyone watch TLC? I was out and didn't watch it live. Came home and just watched the segment where Vince decided to bury Baron Corbin and had a bunch of guys beat him down with chairs and get an Angle Slam.
When I opened the Network app, it didn't even show TLC as in-progress and I had to go to the PPV section to bring it up. :lol Nice to see Asuka getting the belt back even if the focus is on Becky and Charlotte still.
Tonight's Raw is supposed to have Vince out to "shake things up." Roster change-up time?
Man, wtf- why did they shit can Paige? That wonderful skank was the best authority figure they ever had, removing her from the GM role just because RAW is a flaming pile of AIDS is dumb AF:money
Man, wtf- why did they shit can Paige? That wonderful skank was the best authority figure they ever had, removing her from the GM role just because RAW is a flaming pile of AIDS is dumb AF
Just to clarify the development on Smackdown with Paige being removed from the GM role, this is strictly a creative decision to abolish that role on both shows. Paige's performance as GM was extremely well received by officials and she is going to be re-assigned to a new role with the company, though it remains to be seen whether it will be on Smackdown.
John Cena back on Raw and Smackdown.god bless us, every one
also isn't smackdown moving to friday soon? impact can't stop taking the Ls
how was the hogan thing
Is it just me or did Hogan look really out of shape?
:hulk
This main event is awful. Should have had the Hogan segment or the Brock/Braun face-off end the show.
:hulk
This main event is awful. Should have had the Hogan segment or the Brock/Braun face-off end the show.
Whaaaaaaaat? But when do we ever get to see Seth and Dean wrestle each other?
Lacey Evans and EC3 debuted tonight...on Main Event.
:neogaf
Lacey Evans and EC3 debuted tonight...on Main Event.
:neogaf
Still doing better than No Way Jose!
(I don't actually know that for a fact, he may be dominating Main Event and I wouldn't know it cause I'm not one of the 3 people that watches it)
For those unable to watch the stream for whatever reason or can't watch a video right now, these are some personal notes from the All Elite Wrestling Double or Nothing rally:
- Christopher Daniels confirms he, Frankie Kazarian and Scorpio Sky have all signed with All Elite Wrestling.
- Cody talks about compared to other forms of entertainment and sports that wrestlers are mostly always the least paid, but AEW plans to change that.
- Cody claims in AEW, wins and losses will matter more than "ever before"
- Cody claims the fans are most important and there won't be any set of stars the fans are seen as they "have to cheer", fans can be whatever fans they want to be.
- Matt Jackson claims they (The Elite) were all approached by the Khan family and asked, "Do you really want to change the world?"
- Matt Jackson claims all talent are welcomed in AEW, no matter the gender, the race, the religious views, etc. If they are "Elite" ... they are welcomed and wanted at AEW.
- Matt Jackson claims the Chinese promotion, "OWE" (Oriental Wrestling Entertainment) will have a partnership with AEW and they will bring their talent into AEW to help showcase their talent.
- Nick Jackson confirms May 25th 2019, Double or Nothing takes place at the MGM Arena in Las Vegas, NV.
- Brandi confirms there will be a women's division in AEW.
- Brandi speaks about touring the last year all around the world and has been speaking to the best talent around the world and "more on that to come."
- Brandi confirms that wrestlers will be paid on an equal scale regardless of gender.
- Britt Baker doubles down on the statement of AEW prioritizing women's wrestling.
- Britt Baker confirms her signing with AEW.
- MJF implies a company cannot be "elite" without him. (More than likely confirming his signing with AEW)
- Joey Janela (with Penelope Ford) attacks MJF from behind.
- Janela confirms both he and Ford are "All Elite" in 2019.
- 100k+ people are confirmed to be watching the rally live online.
- Page claims this is the best "first day on the job" because he doesn't have a boss micromanaging his every move or how to speak or how to play his music. His "boss" is "us" (the fans)
- Adam Page claims in 2019, he will be the first "All Elite Wrestling Champion"
- PAC makes his way onto the stage.
- PAC and Adam Page have an intense stare down on the stage.
- PAC confirms his signing with AEW.
- Cody confirms the second AEW show will take place in Jacksonville, FL on an unannounced date. Confirms a portion of the gate will go towards the benefit of the victims of Gun Violence.
- Chris Jericho makes his way out onto the stage.
- Chris Jericho confirms his signing with AEW.
- Chris Jericho confirms he'll be apart of "Double or Nothing" on May 25th.
- End of conference.
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CONFIRMED AEW Roster as of the end of the conference with more obviously to come down the line:
- Cody
- Matt Jackson
- Nick Jackson
- Adam Page
- Christopher Daniels
- Frankie Kazarian
- Scorpio Sky
- MJF
- Joey Janela
- PAC
- Chris Jericho
- CIMA
- T-Hawk
- El-Lindamen
- Takehiro Yamamura.
- Penelope Ford
- Britt Baker
- Brandi Rhodes
-- As noted, WWE has tentatively planned for a John Cena vs. Lars Sullivan match at WrestleMania, however, behind-the-scenes developments this week have caused uncertainty on whether this match will actually take place.
-- The Wrestling Observer Newsletter reports that Sullivan was actually scheduled to debut on the main roster this week, working dark matches on Raw and Smackdown. However, due to an "anxiety attack", he either didn't show up to Raw or left early. WWE officials made contact with him and "smoothed things over" but the next night at Smackdown, he never showed up to the event at all and ended up flying back to his his home in Colorado.
-- At this point, nothing is known on if WWE will continue the anticipated monster push that was scheduled. Perhaps there won't be a sign until the Royal Rumble as that is when the angle leading to the WrestleMania match was expected to begin. While WWE is significantly more understanding of mental health issues after their experiences with Mauro Ranallo, it's still up in the air whether the company will remain committed to Sullivan or whether they will decide that it's too risky to invest in him that heavily.
i was surprised they were going that hard with him anyway. he doesn't seem to be a standout dude in looks or ring ability.
Walter has pretty much been the most in demand non-NJ/WWE act in the world in the past year. The reddit list I posted a few days ago has a bunch of his matches from 2018. He got some crazy deal from WWE where he can stay in Germany and run his company's dojo, work pretty much anywhere (IE all the UK indies, PWG, etc), never have to work in America or come to the main roster if he doesn't want to, which he has said many times he has no interest in being on Raw/SD but will probably do NXT from time to time.
Basically got main event money to work UK NXT when he feels like it and not go to New Japan or AEW.
He looks like a giant baby and chops the shit out of people.
worthwhile raw? i saw nikki cross was there and lashley won the ic title
mj8688
2 days ago
He missed the whole point of the documentary, that the morality of wrestling changes and leaves Bret, the archetypal hero, out on the fringes.
Graham Stephen
5 days ago
Jordan Peterson, a mark? Whodathunkit?
rainman11985
4 days ago (edited)
I was surprised to hear JP say that Bret wasn't a very sophisticated guy. In that doco he shows such deep knowledge of the psychology of a Pro Wrestling match. It's the type of deep knowledge that I thought JP respected. If they had a conversation about archetypal stories and hero and villain relationships Bret wouldn't miss a beat and I' sure would give JP examples and nuances he'd never heard before.
barrelrolldog
2 days ago
so JPs deep point about wrestling is that bret hart isn't sophisticated and wrestling isn't sophisticated? its a form of storytelling for dummies who can't read?
am i supposed to be impressed by this assessment or what? who doesn't know wrestling is storytelling? some people don't read and watch wrestling tv and movies instead? truly mind blowing stuff...
and bret hart is sophisticated actually. in the world of wresting he was the guy having amazing technical matches. and out of the ring he is a smart guy, bitter sure but i'm not sure why he deserves to be labelled unsophisticated. seems like more of a bias from JP against wrestling and wrestlers than anything else.
wobbly nostrils
3 days ago
Do these kids know how lucky they are to have such a great teacher?
Owen Sheridan
1 week ago (edited)
THAT GUY UP ON THE FRONT ROW TYPING ON HIS LAP TOP AND SCRUTINIZING HIS IPHONE IS IGNORANCE PERSONIFIED....BUT I GUESS LIFE WILL CHANGE THAT FOR HIM.
I Know My Worth.
The past year I’ve created a special atmosphere at NXTTAKEOVER.
Until WE* can come 2 an agreement as 2 what MY WORTH actually is, there won’t be any appearances or performances from
“The Velveteen DREAM” or
my likeness.
~ Thank U
— The DREAM (@VelveteenWWE) January 21, 2019
I tapped into my sleeping psychic abilities after reaching twenty five.
I don’t use cellphones as a matter of principle, so I prefer to communicate telepathically
Btw Dream is on this week's NXT, marks
According to the latest Wrestling Observer Newsletter, there is a "very good chance" that Ronda Rousey may be finished with WWE soon, with WrestleMania being her last match. If that is the case, it would strongly suggest that Rousey would put over Becky Lynch on the way out.
The Observer adds that there was a "decent amount of talk" internally regarding Rousey finishing up, given her tendency to talk about her tenure in WWE as a temporary thing with her long-term goal being to start a family with husband Travis Browne and live her life on her farm.
It was originally reported that Rousey signed a "multi-year" deal with WWE but she really only made a commitment for one year with WrestleMania as the target end date, however, as we have seen with Brock Lesnar, it's always possible that Vince McMahon could make another great offer and keep her until the May PPV. Even if she does leave, Rousey is expected to be affiliated with WWE moving forward and she could even have a role like Undertaker or John Cena where she would return to TV at certain times.
:rejoice
rousey is trash, please let this be true :-[
In a follow-up to a previous headline about Ronda Rousey potentially wrapping up with WWE after WrestleMania, TMZ has noted that Rousey is likely headed for a "break" after the PPV and that she is "super happy" about her wrestling career and has no plans to end it.
WWE noticed the story and released the following statement:
"Ronda Rousey is under contract with WWE until April 10, 2021. Whether she wants to start a family is a private matter."
Ultimately, it appears that Rousey is considering stepping away from WWE - likely to begin a family - but that she remains with WWE for another 2+ years and will likely be back at some point. The TMZ report also notes that nothing has really been set in stone yet.
Despite his recent claims on social media about being done with WWE, Velveteen Dream was shown sitting at ringside during the main event of Saturday night's NXT TakeOver: Phoenix live WWE Network special between Tommaso Ciampa and Aleister Black.https://twitter.com/WWENXT/status/1089341154770903041
I like new daniel brian and I like aj styles. I wouldn't call that match bad, there were some nice moments, but overall felt like no one curr
shins out already ::)
I swear he was wearing a Sabu shirt, toothe first thing my friend and i noticed and we were both confused at it :lol
they really sent ronda out to the wolves :lol
Dean's contract expires in April, apparently he's not interested in resigning even for more money.
ORIGINAL: After being attacked and replaced by Nia Jax as the 30th entrant in the men's Royal Rumble, R-Truth had to be held back by agents - Brian "Road Dogg" James being specifically named as one - in the backstage area. Truth was reportedly "hot" at Nia Jax claiming that she hurt his "ankle and face" during the spot where he was taken out. Sources add that James had to "hold (Truth) back" from going to "hunt" Jax.
UPDATE: Some readers have pointed out that WWE.com has posted a video of R-Truth looking for Nia Jax seeking an apology for stealing his spot, but there is no footage of people holding him back or any sort of real aggression described above. At this point, I'm unsure if Truth's reaction away from the cameras was legit, a work or some combination of the two. I'm just passing along what observers saw backstage and relayed to me.
WWE conducted a quick interview with Ember Moon, who revealed that she messed up her elbow "really bad" and that the injury will require "immediate surgery." Ember said she doesn't know how long she will be sidelined but that it will be "a while." It appears the injury may have happened after a spot with Alexa Bliss executed a standing moonsault onto Moon but that's just a guess.
Are any of those even an actual loss other than Ambrose? :lol:whatsthedeal
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tYzdqVif76g
After last Tuesday’s Smackdown, WWE management approached several talent whose contracts were coming up for expiration asking them to re-sign new long term deals, reports the Wrestling Observer Newsletter. The catalyst for this was Dean Ambrose telling the promotion that he wasn’t interested in signing another contract extension which has prompted officials to try and “quell” the talk of people wanting out. They have also promised a major focus on the tag team division, while also giving guys who are unhappy pushes and overall upping the pay of anyone who re-signs.
One of the key talent that WWE is looking to re-sign are the Usos, whose contracts are coming up due in April of this year. The Usos would likely be a strong target for All Elite Wrestling given they would make natural opponents for the Young Bucks.
While that looks :lol , he's obviously making that reaction to Byron speaking.
How long has this chick with the MAGA thot gimmick been around?
How long has this chick with the MAGA thot gimmick been around?
Lacey Evans? Did they cut her off or did I miss something?
Oh yeah I guess Asuka still works for the company, let her kill Mandy or Sonya or both
They needed to do a roster change-up like a year ago already. Apparently it's finally happening this year after Mania.Oh yeah I guess Asuka still works for the company, let her kill Mandy or Sonya or both
Yeah, this is what really sucks about all the focus being on the Raw championship match. :-\
Last week, Corey Graves' wife - Amy Polinsky - took to social media to reveal and imply that she caught her husband cheating on her with WWE's Carmella, however, a report by Pro Wrestling Sheet paints a different picture - Corey and Amy are separated and have been in divorce proceedings for the last six months and Corey has actually been living in a different house for two of those months. It is being said that their divorce is very close to being finalized.
The report adds that over the weekend, Corey informed his ex-wife that he is now seeing someone else - Carmella - and that the relationship began after he separated and moved out of the house and she did not react well to that news, blasting him on social media. Amy removed the original post, but continued to post throughout the day, making indirect references to the situation, before her Instagram account was taken offline.
please tell me Ricochet can talk. bc otherwise it's gonna be quiet for him. breh was easily one of my favorites in Lucha Underground
damn he's smaller than Balor is
Haha, DIY vs the Bar tonight, Aleister vs Almas, and Ricochet vs... Eric Young.
It was reported on the latest Wrestling Observer Radio, Triple H was unaware of the recent NXT call-ups and there was a communication gap. Aleister Black was the only one of the four who was really on the radar as someone who would be called up.
-- To complicate matters, all four guys have been announced for NXT TakeOver for WrestleMania weekend, so it's unclear how things will maneuvered over the next few weeks. It was also noted that most of the changes recently have been a reaction by Vince McMahon to low ratings, the AEW stuff as well as the surprise announcement of the Undertaker taking independent bookings. As a result, he just wanted the "top four" NXT guys but it's unclear whether he actually picked them himself or was just told that these are the best four.
Personal trainer David Goyea in Hawaii posted on his Instagram that he was honored to have WWE superstar Roman Reigns train at his gym, while also noting that Reigns was preparing for an "in-ring return."
"Had the absolute honor and privilege of having @romanreigns train at @_islandclubandspa during his stay in Waikiki! It was very humbling for an athlete of his caliber to not only train here but also speak so very highly of our facility. Glad we provided a great space to help him prepare for his in ring return!
With Arn being fired, I believe Charles Robinson is the last man standing from the WCW purchase.
man they gotta get Ronda an acting coach
I mean it was always gonna be an angle with someone, my money was on Becky but hey, looks like Haitch will be healed up in time to wrassle Big Dave at mania, which is fine as long as they keep it like 10 minutes (fucking thing will be 25 minutes long AT LEAST and feature at least 15 mins of restholds and two over the hill dudes out of gas)
50 year old Batista vs 50 year old HHH months after HHH tore his pec, 5 years since Batista has worked at all....and beloved movie star Batista who will be in the next billion dollar Avengers movie a month after WM is the heel in this program?
:lol :lol :lol :lol
50 year old Batista vs 50 year old HHH months after HHH tore his pec, 5 years since Batista has worked at all....and beloved movie star Batista who will be in the next billion dollar Avengers movie a month after WM is the heel in this program?
:lol :lol :lol :lol
I think Vince knows what he's doing, smark
:money
Also :lol :lol if the angle is really Batista is mad HHH didn't respond to his tweets about wanting to have another match, so he attacked his idol and mentor on his birthday so he could get HHH's attention because HHH only likes indie guys now.
Is Vince trying to repeat the Becky/Charlotte/Ronda storyline with Kevin Owens "replacing" Kofi now? :lol
:money
i originally thought they'd be doing some sort of becky vs charlotte thing for fastlane with the winner going to WM but maybe that's the plan for Kofi and KO now?
and then there's the whole other weird Ronda thing on Raw that is happening
On a recent edition of Wrestling Observer Radio, the release of TJP was discussed and it was noted that in today's landscape, WWE is not firing any wrestlers and that TJP's dismissal was strictly due to "disciplinary reasons" and something the company felt they had to do.
Arn Anderson was reportedly fired after an "incident" at a house show that led to a stand-off with Vince McMahon. The reports suggest that some people sided with Arn and others with Vince, who felt that the situation wasn't handled well and the blame fell on Anderson. Anderson was said to be very well liked backstage by talent.
makes sense i guess. plus i suppose they have to have vince be the bad guy in this because they want hhh to be the good guy vs batista so they can't make H be the dick for kofi and becky
Despite getting knocked out of the WWE title match at Fastlane in favor of a returning Kevin Owens, a WWE source indicated that Kofi's work as of late as well as the audience reaction definitely hasn't gone unnoticed and that there are still big plans for him. The source added that the long term plan for the New Day was always for one member to branch out and get a significant singles push, however, not many expected it to be Kingston.
Kassius Ohno is on NXT UK now :lol
His actual role is a player coach and is essentially the liaison and emissary for Regal/HHH with new indie talent because he has a relationship with basically every promoter and company that WWE hires from, has worked with almost everyone they hire, and intimately familiar with both ends and systems. I would say he's likely going to do work at the UK PC and probably try to convince WALTER that Raw/SD wouldn't be so bad.
Also NXT UK definitely needs more talent and stars anyway because it's literally just British Strong Style and now WALTER that any one gives a shit about.
:gladbron :lawd
https://twitter.com/RondaRousey/status/1100785982113075200
https://twitter.com/RondaRousey/status/1101200661151014912
https://twitter.com/RondaRousey/status/1101223230214303744
If you were to follow WrassleGAF/ERA, you'll find a discussion every 3 or so pages where people are afraid to like a talent until they've vetted them to make sure they don't have any problematic content or views out there.
Purity tests for fucking pro wrestlers, brehs :lol :lol :lol
So it's now Becky and Charlotte at Fastlane for the title and they'll work back in Ronda after, not bad.
Stephanie McMahon comes out to the ring with the vacant RAW Women's Title belt and a clipboard. Stephanie steps in the ring and gets on the mic. She introduces a replay of Rona Rousey dropping her RAW Women's Title belt in the ring last week. Stephanie says it's time to rectify this situation, and she introduces Charlotte. She introduces Becky Lynch next, and Becky comes out walking with a crutch. Stephanie says they need a Champion, so this Sunday, Charlotte and Becky will go one on one to determine the new RAW Women's Champion. Stephanie says that because Becky isn't medically cleared, she has to sign an agreement saying she won't sue WWE if she gets injured worse during the match. Charlotte and Becky briefly exchange words, and Stephanie tries to get Becky to focus on signing the contract. Becky signs it, and their match for Sunday is official.
On the big screen we see Ronda Rousey coming in from the parking lot in to the arena. Ronda Rousey comes out to the ring and gets in Stephanie's face. Stephanie says Ronda gave her no other choice, but Ronda says she didn't vacate her Title, she just wanted Becky to be added to the match. Ronda tells Stephanie to giver her the Title back, and Stephanie hands the belt back to her. Stephanie says that at Fastlane, Becky will still face Charlotte. If Becky loses, she's done, if she wins she'll be added to the Title match at WrestleMania. Ronda says she has free range to do anything she wants, because Stephanie just wants to make money and doesn't care about Becky and Charlotte's frail bodies. Ronda yells about the fans booing her, and says she's done entertaining, everyone knows she would break Charlotte and Becky's noses just by sneezing at them. Ronda then kicks down Charlotte and pummels on Becky. She puts Becky in the arm bar, as Charlotte and Stephanie watch from ringside. Ronda pummels on Becky again and puts her in another arm bar.
Ronda lets go and holds up her Title belt. Charlotte backs up the ramp, and Ronda continues the beat down on Becky in the ring. Ronda puts Becky in another arm bar, then she lets go and holds up her Title belt again. Stephanie is backstage for an interview. She says what just happened in the ring is completely ridiculous, and Ronda is the animal that Stephanie knew she was. She says Ronda has no regard for her opponents, the fans, Stephanie, or WWE. Stephanie says she's sick to her stomach about Ronda beating down Becky. Stephanie says Ronda is going to get what's coming to her. Stephanie says she has a lot to think about, and Ronda's behavior needs to be addressed, and it might impact Ronda's career. Fastlane is this Sunday!
An unconfirmed report by WrestlingINC suggests that Arn's dismissal did indeed occur after an incident at a house show and it was because he allowed an intoxicated Alicia Fox to wrestle. Anderson was the road agent responsible for that match and apparently cleared Fox to wrestle despite her condition. When Vince McMahon found out, he was "furious" and terminated Anderson.
On the heels of the report today that Arn Anderson was fired from WWE after clearing an intoxicated Alicia Fox to wrestle at a house show last month, Fightful.com notes that Fox was offered rehab by WWE but went missing soon thereafter to the point where no one knew where she was or even if the rehab was offered. They add that Fox has been on "thin ice" for a while and even had an incident last year before WrestleMania where cameras caught her arguing with Ronda Rousey's husband, Travis Browne. She also reportedly was late for a house show back in 2017 at a time when she was being positioned for a push.
Rumor: Arn Anderson was fired for letting Alicia Fox have a match while intoxicated.Sacking the agent for the talent being shitty is stupid but not unprecedented. Not so long ago I think it was Finley that was sacked for letting Miz(?) get some heel heat by coming out and interrupting the national anthem. :usacryQuoteAn unconfirmed report by WrestlingINC suggests that Arn's dismissal did indeed occur after an incident at a house show and it was because he allowed an intoxicated Alicia Fox to wrestle. Anderson was the road agent responsible for that match and apparently cleared Fox to wrestle despite her condition. When Vince McMahon found out, he was "furious" and terminated Anderson.
If this is true, why would anyone have sided with Arn?
And then Alicia Fox is still with the company and not fired. :dogeQuoteOn the heels of the report today that Arn Anderson was fired from WWE after clearing an intoxicated Alicia Fox to wrestle at a house show last month, Fightful.com notes that Fox was offered rehab by WWE but went missing soon thereafter to the point where no one knew where she was or even if the rehab was offered. They add that Fox has been on "thin ice" for a while and even had an incident last year before WrestleMania where cameras caught her arguing with Ronda Rousey's husband, Travis Browne. She also reportedly was late for a house show back in 2017 at a time when she was being positioned for a push.
Asuka retains. :o Guess they want to break up Mandy and Sonya first. So will Asuka job to Mandy at Mania...or Lacey Evans? :thinking
I could understand needing Charlotte in that match if you were going to keep Ronda a face- gotta have at least one heel in there or the dynamic could get weird. But after last week that's no longer a concern. I honestly just don't think they're planning anything further in advance than the next segment anymore. Something (ratings? AEW? creeping senility???) has Vince shook.
I could understand needing Charlotte in that match if you were going to keep Ronda a face- gotta have at least one heel in there or the dynamic could get weird. But after last week that's no longer a concern. I honestly just don't think they're planning anything further in advance than the next segment anymore. Something (ratings? AEW? creeping senility???) has Vince shook.
Charlotte just looked dumb standing around doing nothing whenever Ronda has come out to address Becky. For as much build-up as the women's division has had, in the end they've made everything feel worthless apart from this Becky/Ronda with added Charlotte thing, and that's the problem. It's like they forgot about the SD championship and the brand new, DEFENDED ON EVERY SHOW!!!!! tag titles? Still on Raw. :zzz
bork i was flummoxed. flummoxed i tell you
i havent even thought about Shelton in ages.
GIVE ME WHAT I WANT
GIVE ME WHAT I WANT
GIVE ME WHAT I WANT
GIVE ME WHAT I WANT
GIVE ME WHAT I WANT
GIVE ME WHAT I WANT
GIVE ME WHAT I WANT
:hhh
Batista vs HHH in a Wrestlemania "epic" in 2019 is going to be so terrible, I can't wait. I wonder if it will be able to be worse than DX vs Brothers of Destruction in 2018.It's gonna be No DQ now so that H can bust out the old slegehammer again. Very excited for a dull 25 minute match that could have been a great 10-15 minute match.
Oh neat, WrassleGAFERA has #Cancelled Aleister Black for making fun of Lana's fake tits after she made fun of his tattoos. :lol
EDIT: Oh it appears what they're ACTUALLY upset/concerned with is that he followed up by making fun of fake outrage types, so now he's sus and very likely alt-right and they'll be monitoring the situation very closely. ::)
Has anyone purchased the promoter mode DLC for Fire Pro World? It's only a year and a half late. I'm interested because you know...that was the most interesting thing they promised, but paying for game shit when I haven't played ANY games in almost 2 months and haven't opened Fire Pro in a year seems like a real hassle.
On the latest Wrestling Observer Radio, Dave Meltzer spoke on Ronda Rousey’s future by pointing out that she is not scheduled for any dates on WWE’s post-WrestleMania European tour. He added that while before it was a given that Rousey would be back as an active wrestler after taking a hiatus, now things are a bit muddier and it’s not a lock that she will ever be back - mainly because she’s hasn’t had a lot of fun with the WWE fans turning on her.
While all that is conjecture, the only thing we do know is that Rousey remains under WWE contract for another two years so even if she isn't on TV as a wrestler, she would still be legally bound to the company for that period of time.
"And now that I’m a heel, I can openly profess my love to all the heels that I love. Here’s the list of some of the heels that I love. I love you Liv Morgan. I love you Sarah Logan. I love you Ruby Riott…and I love you Stephanie McMahon. I can’t go down the whole list…I’ll probably ruin everything. Everyone’s all mad."
I think John Cena posted a pic of Angle on instagram, but he does shit like that all the time. Last check he nor Taker were scheduled at all. Cena was originally going to be up against Lars Sullivan, but Lars broke his brain and all plans were scrapped.
ayyI think John Cena posted a pic of Angle on instagram, but he does shit like that all the time. Last check he nor Taker were scheduled at all. Cena was originally going to be up against Lars Sullivan, but Lars broke his brain and all plans were scrapped.
Please don't be Baron Corbin Please don't be Baron Corbin Please don't be Baron Corbin Please don't be Baron Corbin Please don't be Baron Corbin Please don't be Baron Corbin Please don't be Baron Corbin Please don't be Baron Corbin Please don't be Baron Corbin Please don't be Baron Corbin Please don't be Baron Corbin Please don't be Baron Corbin Please don't be Baron Corbin Please don't be Baron Corbin Please don't be Baron Corbin
This shit with Kofi is officially way too drawn the hell out now. :lol
Dirt sheets are saying that either the Angle/Corbin match will have more participants added or that Corbin is just being teased for the match and will be kicked out of it by someone more popular as it gets closer to Mania.
There's hope!
Taker pls stay away, there's gonna too many WM matches already
Nikki Bella is retiring from wrestling. I wonder if that means she'll get a retirement match at wrestlemania or elsewhere.
https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/nikki-bella-retiring-wwe-apos-145737219.html
I guess she'll hang on as a reality TV show star. Although I use the term star loosely.
well tbf almost everyone that wasn't with wwe had a cup of coffee in impact/tna in the 2000shttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELaHIUDO5q0
well tbf stfu nerd mother fucker:smug
Since Raw is in Boston will Gronk show up? :lol
this probably ends with a dq from asuka getting attacked by her actual wm opponent or something, right? if they randomly give the title to charlotte that'd be fucked :lol
They got out of making a SD women's match by putting the title on someone in the Raw match :deadfunny thing is they were advertising a 4 way match on SD to find an opponent for Asuka up until yesterday and then they decided "fuck it" and went this route.
Definitely expect WM to end with the Four Horsewomen all holding up their titles, even if Becky and Charlotte just tried to kill each other for 25 minutes
Is this the worst Mania buildup ever? It's gotta be up there.
I feel like you could say that for every WM for the past decade or more.
You forgot the women's battle royale and matches for the raw and sd tag titles, though I guess those haven't been set yet. Gonna be a long show, will probably watch it in two parts :lol
i thought there was gonna be usos vs hardys or was that just teased? i remember the usos calling them out on SD at some point
This meme is incredible:
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10156315843181279&id=195158401278&ref=m_notif¬if_t=feed_comment_replyou
It's a video so you gotta view it on fb. Can anyone name these wrestlers? I'm not really up with the latest guys (and this could be an older clip too)
This meme is incredible:
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10156315843181279&id=195158401278&ref=m_notif¬if_t=feed_comment_replyou
It's a video so you gotta view it on fb. Can anyone name these wrestlers? I'm not really up with the latest guys (and this could be an older clip too)
That's HHH and Batista from just 2-3 weeks ago
couldn't find the gif i mentioned so this one will have to doHah, I remember somebody tried asking that on a qna stream with some lady competitor and her and the host were all 'wtf is wrong with all of you' :lol
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They just did Ali/Joe for the title last night, but I guess that hasn't stopped them before. Cena and Joe would be :teehee but entertaining. Also is Mustafa Ali just Ali now? His titantron video was just ALI in rainbow colors with a black screen and nothing else :lol
WWE network has the whole thing scheduled for 7.5 hours including pre-show but it's bound to run longer. I doubt I'll make it through the whole thing in one night.
Final WM card:
Ronda Rousey vs Charlotte vs Becky Lynch Raw and Smackdown Women's Championships Winner Takes All
Brock Lesnar vs Seth Rollins WWE Universal Championship
Daniel Bryan vs Kofi Kingston WWE Championship
Finn Balor vs Bobby Lashley WWE Intercontinental Championship
Samoa Joe vs Rey Mysterio WWE US Championship (possibly to be changed to Ali last minute, also possibly John Cena, the original plan for Joe)
Bayley/Sasha Banks vs Nia Jax/Tamina vs The IIconics vs Natayla/Beth Phoenix WWE Women's Tag Team Championships
Usos vs The Bar vs Nakamura/Rusev vs Ricochet/Aleister Black Smackdown Tag Team Championships
The Revival vs Curt Hawkins/Zach Ryder Raw Tag Team Championships
Buddy Murphy vs Tony Nese WWE Cruiserweight Championship
Batista vs HHH No Holds Barred, HHH's career on the line
Miz vs Shane McMahon Falls Count Anywhere
Kurt Angle vs Baron Corbin, Kurt Angle's farewell match
Roman Reigns vs Drew McIntyre
AJ Styles vs Randy Orton
Andre The Giant Memorial Battle Royal
Women's Battle Royal
Cheap seats for a wrestling show
$200
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wtf was that box shit lol
NM they did have cheaper seats but we decided to go back to the hotel instead, lol. Figure my wife would get pretty bored quickly. Now I'm watching Raw and they seem to be unifying the titles-- it's Kofi versus Seth for the main event WTF
According to the Wrestling Observer Newsletter, Sasha Banks “tried to quit” WWE over the weekend, after feeling as if she was “blindsided” when told that the company was taking the new women’s tag team titles off of her and Bayley. Banks was supposedly under the assumption that the duo would have a strong run with the titles, bringing credibility and seriousness to the new championship. With the Iiconics as the new title holders, this now makes the belts seem like “gimmick comedy belts.”
Rey Mysterio to Raw.
...why?
EC3 on TV :whatisthis
LOL if Vince axed the Paige bringing a new team to challenge the Iiconics storyline.
Anyone know how bad Big E is hurt? Hope he isn't gone too long.
suck it bork
how long has aiden english been on 205 live as commentary? :lol
AJ Styles
The Miz
Ricochet
Aleister Black
Erik
Ivar
Andrade
Zelina Vega
Rey Mysterio
Jimmy Uso
Jey Uso
Naomi
EC3
Lacey Evans
Eric Young
Cedric Alexander
Roman Reigns
Finn Bálor
Elias
Bayley
Ember Moon
Kairi Sane
Lars Sullivan
Buddy Murphy
Liv Morgan
Chad Gable
Apollo Crews
Mickie James
wait so "The Shield's Final Chapter" thing on the network on sunday is gonna be a live house show or something? :doge
Probably means Becky gonna end up staying on Raw eventually
I think something happened on Monday, the pacing of the matches were odd, it was super boring after the Moment of Bliss segment, we just left with like one hour of show to go. It was the first time we ever did that. The crowd just didnt give a damn after a while and was dead for the rest of the night.There was some intense weather to the point of there being tornado warnings for CT and southward happening that messed up some performer's travels so RAW was pretty heavily panic rewritten due to a bunch of people not being able to be there.
I like the idea of managers, but Asuka and Kairi Sane don't need one, and if they did, it shouldn't be Paige.
In fact, Paige should be no one's manager.
The big man also had an interesting response to a fan who warned him that he is now in "The Big Dog's" yard as Roman Reigns was also moved from RAW to SmackDown Live as part of the 2019 WWE Superstar Shake-up.:lol
In response to that comment, Sullivan noted, "I'll take a dump in his yard."
"It really is disheartening that Comedy Central actually pushes Ziggler more than WWE does"
and the viking boiz....good lord that still makes me laugh. why not just called them The Viking Raiders, that's way better? :lol
Zelina Vega, Andrade, and Aleister Black moved to Smackdown because Fox wanted latinos (and Black is married to Vega)
No reason to watch Raw now :rejoice
Should be a good match though, right?
I missed the first half hour. What happened?
- Shane McMahon comes out to the ring to kick off the show, with his extended introduction from the ring announcer. There's a kid in a full Ultimate Warrior costume in the front row. Shane says he's here tonight to talk about Roman Reigns, and how Reigns punched Vince McMahon last week. Shane shows us a replay of the punch and talks about how disgusting it was. Shane said that was like attacking a national treasure, and Shane wonders about what the appropriate action to take against Reigns would be. Shane says instead of a fine or suspension, they're going to settle it in the ring. Shane tells Reigns to get his butt out here, and this isn't a request, because Reigns works for Shane and his family, it's an order. Reigns comes out and steps in the ring with a microphone. Roman and Shane come face to face and they both drop their microphones. Elias ambushes Reigns from behind, then Shane attacks him and stomps on Reigsn in the corner. Reigns comes back with a big boot and some punches. Elias runs back over and double teams Reigns with Shane now. Elias hits the Drift Away on Reigns and then they leave.
- Still to come: Kofi Kingston vs. Shinsuke Nakamura; and Finn Balor vs. Andrade
- We see Shane and Elias talking backstage about how good it felt to get revenge on Reigns.
- WWE Champion Kofi Kingston is backstage for an interview. Xavier Woods joins to be his hype man. They talk about Kofi being the WWE Champion and his match against Shinsuke tonight. Kevin Owens walks in wearing a New Day shirt and helps get Kofi pumped up for his match tonight.
- Finn Balor vs. Andrade: We see a pre-taped promo from Andrade and Zelina before the match. The opening bell sounds and this one spills out to ringside early on. Andrade leaps from the turnbuckle for a corkscrew moonsault down onto Balor at ringside. Back in the ring, Andrade continues the offense and controls the pace of the match after hitting a flying knee to the face of Balor. Balor finally fights back and then hits a double stomp on Andrade. They fight into the turnbuckle and Andrade goes for a Frankensteiner, but Balor rolls through and dumps Andrade out to ringside. Balor hits a big suicide dive on Andrade, then takes him back in the ring. Andrade fights back with a spinning elbow, then the running knee strike in the corner for a two count. Balor comes back with an inverted DDT, and both men are down. Zelina climbs to the top rope and tries to leap down on to Balor, but Balor moves and she lands in Andrade's arms. Andrade puts her down, then Balor hits a dropkick on Andrade. Balor follows up with the Coup De Grace on Andrade for the three count.
Winner: Finn Balor
- We see Elias backstage warming up his guitar and singing about Roman Reigns. Elias proposes that Roman should face him one on one at Money In The Bank. Shane hops up next to Elias and says that was great, but Reigns will never accept, so it's time for them to go. Shane and Elias get in a limo and drive out of the arena.
- We see some video from earlier today of Mandy Rose and Sonya Deville telling Paige they are way out of her league, and it's too late for Absolution to return.
- Kairi Sane vs. Peyton Royce: Kairi is joined by Paige and Asuka. Peyton and Billie Kay cut a promo on them before the match. Peyton starts off strong against Kairi and chokes her up against the ropes then stomps on her. Kairi fights back and hits an axe kick, then a neckbreaker. Kairi hits a running elbow on Peyton in the corner, then she goes up to the top rope. Kairi hits the flying elbow drop for the three count after a short match.
Winner: Kairi Sane
- Paige and Asuka celebrate with Kairi after the match. Mandy and Sonya interrupt their celebration and they have a face-off on the ramp. Jinder Mahal and the Singh Brothers then interrupt, and it looks like Jinder's match against Chad Gable is up next.
- We see a pre-taped promo from Aleister Black in a black t-shirt in front of a black background.
- Chad Gable comes out for his match with Jinder, but on the ramp Lars Sullivan ambushes him from behind. Lars beats down Gable at ringside and slams him into the ring post. Lars then turns his attention to Jinder, and he slides in the ring. Jinder and the Singh Brothers start to flee the ring. Lars grabs one Singh brother and suplexes him down, and then he powerbombs the other Singh brother while Jinder escapes. R-Truth comes out to interrupt and he charges Lars. Truth hits the ring and starts trading punches with Lars now. They brawl all over the ring until Sullivan hits a suplex, and then a running powerbomb.
- We go to Roman Reigns' locker room for an interview. Reigns says he accepts Elias' challenge and he's going to break his jaw.
- Charlotte comes out to the ring, and she's got a mic. She talks about her WrestleMania loss to Becky Lynch in their triple threat match with Ronda Rousey. Charlotte says she was robbed at WrestleMania, and she wants Becky to come out and explain why she thinks she's the rightful Champion when she didn't beat Charlotte. Becky comes out and gets on the mic. She tells Charlotte that it was a winner takes all match, and Charlotte must not have understood what that meant. Becky says she beat the woman Charlotte couldn't beat - Ronda, and Becky has beaten Charlotte more times than she can count. They continue to talk trash until Bayley comes out to interrupt. Bayley says the Superstar Shakeup was supposed to be a fresh start, but all she sees is a rerun between Charlotte and Becky. Bayley says Becky has never beaten her. Charlotte tells Bayley to get in the back of the line because this is Charlotte's show. Bayley challenges Charlotte to a match to determine the #1 contender, but Charlotte says she's not worth her time. Bayley slaps the microphone out of Charlotte's hand, and it looks like we might have a match now.
- Charlotte vs. Bayley: Charlotte starts off strong and backs Bayley into the corner off the opening bell. Charlotte shoves Bayley, and Bayley shoves her back and knocks her down. Charlotte misses a spear and Bayley comes back with a neckbreaker. Charlotte fights back and slams Bayley into the corner. They trade slaps to the face now and Charlotte gets the upper hand and drops Bayley. Bayley rolls up Charlotte for a two count, then hits a springboard cross body for another two count. Bayley hits some strikes in the corner, but Charlotte ducks one and takes out Bayley's knee. Charlotte starts focusing her offense on Bayley's knee now, and Bayley rolls out to the apron for a breather. Charlotte looks for the Figure Four, but Bayley fights out and drops her. Both women are down now and Bayley is selling the knee. Charlotte escapes a suplex attempt, then she drops Bayley with a big boot for a two count. Charlotte goes for a moonsault off the top, but Bayley rolls out of he way. Bayley follows up with a German suplex. Bayley hits a sunset flip into the turnbuckle, then pins for a two count. Bayley misses a shot and Charlotte answers with a spear. Charlotte immediately pins for the three count.
Winner: Charlotte
- Charlotte will now receive a shot at Becky's Championship. We see Becky backstage watching on a monitor. Becky does an interview where she says she doesn't underestimate her competition, but she's betting on herself at Money In The Bank. She says she'll defend her RAW Title against Lacey Evans and her SmackDown Title against Charlotte at Money In The Bank.
- We see Kofi, Xavier and Kevin Owens backstage in front of a table of pancakes. Kofi is warming up for his match against Nakamura up next.
- They air Bray Wyatt's "firefly fun house" vignette that also aired on RAW. Bray says he can't wait to show everyone what he learned, and he introduces us to the buzzard box and the witch doll. Bray says he used to be a bad person, but he's done being that "pathetic slob loser." Bray takes a chainsaw to a cardboard cutout of himself and cuts it in half.
- Kofi Kingston vs. Shinsuke Nakamura: Woods and Owens are at ringside, and Owens does the ring introduction that Big E usually does. Rusev and Lana are at ringside in Nakamura's corner. The opening bell sounds and Kofi and Nakamura trade strikes evenly in the opening moments. Kofi fires up and hits a cross body off the top on a standing Nakamura for a two count. Kofi connects with a kick, but then he misses a spear and Nakamura answers with a knee drop. Nakamura follows up with kicks and he sends Kofi out to the apron. They fight out to ringside where Nakamura connects with more kicks to the head and upper body. Back in the ring, Nakamura tries to toss Kofi but Kofi lands on his feet. Kofi taunts Nakamura and then clotheslines him. Kofi hits a dropkick, but then he misses a shot in the corner. Nakamura boots Kofi in the head then slams him down on the mat. Nakamura misses a shot and Kofi comes back with a double stomp on Nakamura. Kofi and Nakamura trade kick attempts now but miss all of them. Kofi latches on to Nakamura and hits the SOS. Kofi pins, but then Rusev runs in to break it up, and the ref calls for the DQ.
Winner via DQ: Kofi Kingston
- Owens and Xavier hit the ring to break it up and this one turns into an all-out brawl. Woods gets taken out at ringside, but Owens and Kofi are able to clear the ring. Owens then turns on Kofi and kicks him in the face. Owens beats down Kofi and Woods now, then he grabs the WWE Title belt from ringside and yells at Kofi. Owens takes Kofi out to ringside and looks to powerbomb him, but then Xavier Woods dropkicks Owens to break it up. Owens comes back with a clothesline on Woods and beats him down. Referees finally come out and Owens leaves. Kofi and Woods are hurting at ringside as Owens stares them down from the stage, and SmackDown goes off the air.
According to the Wrestling Observer Newsletter, Daniel Bryan was going to get a rematch against Kofi Kingston at Money in the Bank but his injury caused the change to Kevin Owens and the speeding up of his heel turn.
WWE is doing more focus group work than ever in an attempt to figure out why ratings and live show business is down, says the WON.
Per the Observer, Nikki Cross will be a member of the Raw roster and it’s likely her husband, Killian Dain, will join her.
They’re also saying the B-Team have been moved to the SmackDown brand, and no decision has been made regarding Sheamus.
SI is saying Dean Malenko has quit WWE.
Look how long Khali was there and he basically doesn't even have knees.
Jim Ross recently mentioned that WWE re-signed an undercard wrestler who isn’t even on television to a $500K contract.:confused
That led to a report from Fightful that Dash Wilder & Scott Dawson of The Revival were offered 5 year, $500K per year deals.
Wrestling Observer confirmed the offer, and said that Wilder & Dawson turned down the contracts.
That Lio Rush wasn’t on TV Monday night or mentioned while Bobby Lashley was on-screen could be a sign he’s done on Raw.:no1curr
Btw I think last night’s Raw was the worst I’ve ever seen.
Btw I think last night’s Raw was the worst I’ve ever seen.
They outdo themselves every week...just in the wrong way!
I know this is more for the long-term, but LOL at the roster moves with feuds that have just continued from the other shows, like Miz and Shane. And double-LOL at The Iiconics being on matches, as the tag champs, on MAIN EVENT already. :lol
UFC President Dana White told ESPN's Ariel Helwani on Tuesday that the former UFC Heavyweight Champion and mega-WWE Superstar has informed the promotion that he is retired from the sport.
"He told me he’s done," White said of his recent discussion with "The Beast Incarnate."
White added, "He’s retired."
Goldberg is being advertised for the next Saudi show :what
"We don’t know what the issue was, but Bryan was at TV on 4/30 in Columbus, OH and medically cleared and will be written back into the storylines, perhaps as soon as next week."
500k per year seems like a pretty good offer for two short dudes in a tag team :shrug
500k per year seems like a pretty good offer for two short dudes in a tag team :shrug
Saw something about this saying that when you factor in all the expenses they have to pay on their own, it doesn't equate to anywhere near as much and probably ends up getting being like $300,000. Still better than someone like Lio Rush is getting and uh...I certainly wouldn't be complaining.
:idont
The dude just got done with 5 months of chemo and he's already working double duty :mjcrydat Top Guy spot :rejoice
Is the Jags a well run operation?:goty2
Vince, Roman, DBryan, and Kofi all came out within the first 10 minutes. They are dying for a good rating :lol
pls no one from raw go to smackdown :nope
Vince, Roman, DBryan, and Kofi all came out within the first 10 minutes. They are dying for a good rating :lol
a night we'll never forget cause this is when aj and the good brothers reunite and just kill everyone in the ring :lawd
Ugh. Time to take a big shit./
thank god bork watches so i don't have to
The Revival vs. Gallows & Anderson: Before the opening bell, The Usos interrupt from the stage with mics. They talk about The Revival claiming to be the hottest team in WWE. They ask if you've heard of Icey Hot, and they bring out a jar of something called "Uso Hot," and they say it should be activating right about now. The Revival members start selling that there is something in their trunks burning them. The Usos tell the Revival to come up to the stage and take some bottled water to relieve the pain. The Revival grabs the water and pours it in their trunks. The Usos then inform them that that will make the burning worse, and they were supposed to drink the water. The Revival keeps selling the burning in their trunks and they run backstage.
LACEY EVANS SQUASHES A JOBBER IN FRONT OF THE MIB ENTRANTS!Man this segment was so stupid and pointless. All the other entrants beforehand went 'Screw Lacey lets show her' and then they did literally nothing, even after Becky showed up and whopped her post match, they just let her wander off! If there's several of them and only one her and they hate her, shouldn't they all collectively stomp the shit out of her? It was terrible and bad and made no goddamn sense! What are you even doing aaaah :doge
RIVETING!
:snore
As pointed out by David Bixenspan, Triple H briefly liked a tweet blaming Vince McMahon for WWE’s ‘confusing and pointless’ storylines, and saying the company should provide its wrestlers with health insurance.
According to the Wrestling Observer, both the FOX and USA Networks are putting pressure on WWE to end the brand-split due to poor program ratings for Raw and SmackDown. This somewhat explains the bizarre "wild card" rule announced by Vince McMahon on last night's episode of Raw, where he stated that a certain set of superstars can jump back and forth between the brands at any point. This week's viewership numbers haven't been released yet, but WWE did have Game 4 of the NBA playoff showdown between the Houston Rockets and the Golden State Warriors to compete with.
Meanwhile, last week's numbers were the lowest WWE has had all year, down significantly from the same point last year at the start of the new quarter. SmackDown Live specifically has dropped nearly 40% in the 18-35 demographic.
On the flip side I will ask what are Kofi and R Truth supposed to be? A PG black panther stable? I always wondered why they had to team up two black guys. Both those guys look like they could be in a prison black gang."
Some blacks want to take advantage of their great grandparents misfortunes, and they want a piece of the pity pie. Instead of taking some personal responsibility, they choose to attack the white man and say we must take care of them financially. Black Panther Party. These guys are the epitome of racist clowns. When immigrants (particularly of the illegal persuasion coming from our neighbors down south) hear that we are "land of the free", to them that means they get free stuff. There is a clear political divide among the races. The democrats essentially bribing minorities for votes is the root cause of this problem. So many other reasons.
That sounds like a brave gay guy you worked with, in a weird in way. He would actually have no reservations about telling his straight co workers about how he had sex with other men? I'm sorry but that's where I would draw the line and make him feel like a worthless outcast of society.
It's not a racial thing. It's not whites vs the chinese or whites vs blacks or anything like that. It's what matters in this world. We live in America, the mecca of everything. WWE is the mecca of pro wrestling because they are an American-based company. We live in America, Meltzer is an American "journalist". IF these Chinese organizations had more exposure to the American audience, then I could see the logic behind throwing them a bone.
But the point is no one cares about Chinese wrestling in America except a select few who, like you and Meltzer, get excited at the prospect of being viewed as a "better educated and more cultured" wrestling fan. No one cares.
Haha, this is hilarious. They're not gonna let anyone out of any contracts but so many fewer people are going to be on tv now. Maybe they'll have a house show touring crew that never shows up on tv.
* Titus O'Neil def. EC3 in the opening bout of the evening. The fans inside the O2 Arena were already making noise. It's clear we've got a pretty hot crowd tonight. No surprise when WWE visits the U.K. O'Neil picked up the win via pin fall.
* The Revival def. The Lucha House Party in an excellent tag-team contest. This was a quality match. There was great in-ring action from all of these guys. In the end, The Revival picked up the "W."
WWE RAW SPOILER RESULTS (Taped On 5/13/2019)
The show opens with the usual video package and then we shoot inside the O2 Arena to see a packed house full of passionate WWE fans.
From there, we shoot to the ring and jump right into this week's red brand action.
Special International Edition Of MizTV With Roman Reigns
This week's RAW kicks off with a "special international edition" of Miz TV.
The Miz talks about his upcoming Steel Cage match against Shane McMahon at the WWE Money In The Bank pay-per-view. He then introduces his guest for this week, SmackDown Live Superstar Roman Reigns.
"The Big Dog" is immediately interrupted by Elias, who comes out with his trademark guitar. Shane McMahon also ends up coming out. Elias and Reigns square off until Miz and Bobby Lashley, who also entered the scene, attack him in a three-on-one beat down.
Shane McMahon ends up announcing Bobby Lashley and Elias vs. The Miz and Roman Reigns for the show. That match is actually up next. Stay tuned!
The Miz & Roman Reigns vs. Bobby Lashley & Elias
In the match that was just put together after a wild installment of Miz TV, The Miz and Roman Reigns managed to pick up the "W" over the duo of Bobby Lashley and Elias.
The match saw interference from Shane McMahon which led to the finish via Disqualification.
After the match was over, Reigns fired back up and took out Shane while The Miz fought off the other guys with a steel chair.
Winners via Disqualification: The Miz & Roman Reigns
Video Package For WWE Universal Championship Match At WWE Money In The Bank
After the tag-team match ended, we shoot to a video segment. This segment saw an in-depth video package that told the story and built-up the highly-anticipated WWE Universal Championship showdown between "The Architect" Seth Rollins and "The Phenomenal" A.J. Styles.
Backstage: Shane McMahon, Braun Strowman & Sami Zayn
From there, we go to a backstage segment. This segment saw the cameras backstage at the O2 Arena where Shane McMahon calls Braun Strowman to his office.
"The Monster Among Men" shows up and we see Sami Zayn as well, who was already in the office with Shane-O-Mac. Zayn is complaining.
Shane ends up announcing Braun Strowman vs. Sami Zayn for later in the show. The winner of the match will get Strowman's current spot in the Men's Money In The Bank Ladder Match at the upcoming WWE Money In The Bank pay-per-view.
Mojo Rawley vs. Apollo Crews
After the backstage segments and some brief down time, we head back to the ring for our next match of the evening.
In one-on-one action, Mojo Rawley took on Apollo Crews. This was essentially a squash match, with Rawley getting the showcase spotlight. He picked up in a quick win, and did so in dominant fashion.
Winner: Mojo Rawley
Backstage: Nikki Cross' New Character
After the Mojo Rawley/Apollo Crews squash match, we shoot to the back for another backstage segment.
We see Nikki Cross. She is performing her new gimmick, as she teased in a recent social media promo that made the rounds recently. She comes off somewhat timid and very calm. Almost the opposite traits she displayed in her former character.
It is announced that Nikki Cross will be replacing Alexa Bliss in the Fatal-4-Way Match.
WWE Money In The Bank Double Contract Signing
We head back inside the O2 Arena, which now features a decked out ring for the Double Contract Signing for WWE Money In The Bank.
With that said, we shoot inside the ring where Charlotte Flair, Lacey Evans and WWE RAW and SmackDown Women's Champion Becky Lynch come out for the contract signing.
Lynch received a huge ovation from the London fans. The crowd was also popping pretty good for particular lines she dropped during her promo.
While trying to give her retort, "The Queen" was given the "What?!" treatment from the fans. The crowd didn't seem particularly interested in anything Evans had to say, either.
When all was said-and-done, the contracts were signed for the Lynch vs. Evans RAW Women's Title Match and the Lynch vs. Charlotte SmackDown Women's Title Match at the 5/19 WWE Money In The Bank PPV at the XL Center in Hartford, Connecticut.
After putting pen-to-paper, Evans and Charlotte puts boots-to-asses ... metaphorically speaking. The two ended up putting "The Man" through a table in the ring to end the segment.
Baron Corbin vs. Ricochet
From there we take a short break before heading back to the ring for our next contest.
Baron Corbin and Ricochet make their way to the squared circle for the third match of the evening. This was a pretty good little match. The fans were way into Ricochet. In the end, however, Corbin ended up getting his hand raised.
Winner: Baron Corbin
Backstage: Cesaro, Rey Mysterio & His Son
After the Corin-Ricochet bout, we shoot behind-the-scenes for another backstage segment.
We see Rey Mysterio and his son when Cesaro enters the picture. Cesaro insults Mysterio's son one too many times, which leads to a brawl between Mysterio and Cesaro.
Rey Mysterio vs. Cesaro
The backstage chaos involving Rey Mysterio and Cesaro has now made its' way out to the ring.
Our next contest is Mysterio and Cesaro in one-on-one action. This was kept pretty basic and obviously Mysterio didn't do a whole lot, but the crowd still seemed to enjoy it.
The finish saw Mysterio pick up the win.
Winner: Rey Mysterio
Backstage: The Revival
We head backstage again for another segment. The Revival are shown. The two cut promos about how they are done with being embarrassed. They make it clear that they are on a mission to get redemption. They end up challenging The Usos to a match.
Backstage: Bray Wyatt Returns With Another "Firefly Fun House" Segment
From there it was everyone's favorite time of the week -- Firefly Fun House time!
Bray Wyatt returned with the latest installment of his much-talked-about segment. The segment featured a lot of the usual bells and whistles we have become accustomed to. The theme was to tease that Bray Wyatt will soon be returning to the ring.
WWE Men's MITB Ladder Match Spot On-The-Line
Braun Strowman vs. Sami Zayn
After that awesome segment, we head back to the ring for the previously announced match between Braun Strowman and Sami Zayn.
As announced earlier in the show, Strowman's spot in the Men's Money In The Bank Ladder Match will be on-the-line, meaning a win for Sami Zayn would result a change to the currently advertised match for the 5/19 PPV.
When all was said and done, that is exactly what happened.
Zayn ended up picking up the win over "The Monster Among Men" after Baron Corbin and Drew McIntyre did a run-in and interfered. With the win. Zayn now replaces Strowman in the Men's Money In The Bank Ladder Match at the WWE PPV in Hartford, CT. later this month.
After this match, Strowman ended up firing back up and putting Sami Zayn through a table to end the RAW broadcast on the USA Network.
Winner and NEW Men's MITB Ladder Match Participant: Sami Zayn
According to Dave Meltzer on Wrestling Observer Radio, Braun Strowman is wrestling injured - likely a significant bicep or triceps injury though it’s interesting that he worked a long match last on Raw. This doesn’t appear to be the reason he was taken out of the match though as Meltzer noted that his removal is part of a bigger, longer storyline that will play out presumably over the next several weeks.
Bork give me the SD spoilers so I can tell myself I don’t need to watch tonight.
Bork give me the SD spoilers so I can tell myself I don’t need to watch tonight.
You never need to watch Smackdown. Or Raw. Or any wrestling show. Don't do this to yourself, bb.
Also I have to finish editing a graphic novel on feminism tonight. I kind of wish the author could know I worked on it while watching WWE.
WWE supports a culture of inclusion regardless of gender, race, religion or sexual orientation, and we are committed to embracing all individuals as demonstrated by the diversity of our employees, performers and fans worldwide.https://www.forbes.com/sites/alfredkonuwa/2019/05/14/wwe-fines-lars-sullivan-100000-for-past-bigoted-comments/#6c5bb57a604e
Dylan Miley (aka Lars Sullivan) will be fined $100,000 and required to complete sensitivity training for offensive commentary uncovered from his past. WWE will also facilitate meetings for Dylan with community organizations to foster further discussion around the power of social media and the impact of your words.
WWE SMACKDOWN LIVE SPOILER RESULTS (Taped On 5/14/2019)
- The show opens with Roman Reigns introducing The Miz, however they are interrupted by Elias and Shane McMahon. Shane McMahon bans Miz from the arena tonight. Out of nowhere, Daniel Bryan and Rowan hit the ring for a four-man beat down on "The Big Dog," until his cousins The Usos hit the ring to make the save. A 3-on-4 Handicap Match is announced by Shane McMahon for later tonight. He mentions that if Miz interferes, the Steel Cage Match they have scheduled for the WWE Money In The Bank PPV will be cancelled. Check out some spoiler photos from this segment.
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- Andrade won the The Fatal-4-Way involving himsel, Ali, Randy Orton and WWE Intercontinental Champion Finn Balor took place. The finish saw Andrade get the pin on Balor. There were some cool ladder spots in the match, and some exciting high spots. This was said to be an extremely good match early in the show that really set the tone for the evening. Check out spoiler video highlights from the Fatal-4-Way match here.
- After the match, Andrade goes for the Money In The Bank briefcase, however Ricochet comes out and hits the ring to stop him.
- Backstage, we see WWE Champion Kofi Kingston with Xavier Woods. Kingston makes it clear he wants to go on The Kevin Owens Show by himself later in the show.
- Charlotte Flair cuts a quick promo on RAW and SmackDown Women's Champion Becky Lynch. "The Queen" vows to win the SmackDown Women's Championship and subsequently end her rivalry with "The Man" for good when the two meet in the ring for the Women's blue brand title at the WWE Money In The Bank PPV. Check out video footage of this segment by clicking here.
- Another cryptic backstage vignette with Aleister Black aired.
- Shane McMahon, Daniel Bryan, Rowan & Elias beat Roman Reigns and The Usos in the 3-on-4 Handicap Match announced in the opening segment of the show. After the match, the heel foursome continued to punish Reigns and The Usos until The Miz hit the ring to make the save.
- Backstage, we get quick promos from Paige and Ember.
- The Kabuki Warriors def. Mandy Rose & Sonya Deville in tag-team action. Kairi Sane and Asuka came out and Paige announces that the duo will now be known as The Kabuki Warriors. The Ilconics were on commentary for the tag match, which Asuka and San won when Asuka rolled up Mandy for the 1-2-3.
- We see Lars Sullivan
- Kevin Owens cuts a promo backstage. As he's talking, he is interrupted by The New Day's music. Out comes WWE Champion Kofi Kingston to the ring while Owens is shown on the titan tron still talking backstage. Finally, Owens makes his way out and he and Kingston brawl in the aisle. Sami Zayn ends up running in and helping Owens beat down the WWE Champion until Kingston's New Day brother Xavier Woods comes out to even things up. Eventually, the heels retreat as Kingston and Woods stand tall.
Watched the Tom Magee special and that was a damn good match. It's pretty crazy to see a guy of his size flipping around in the 80s. Just kinda weird that he kinda hung around WWE for years doing dark matches and then left. Him saying he never heard anything about being the next Hogan was pretty crazy, maybe he'd have stuck around. Also I liked Davey Boy Jr's impression of Bret. :lol
Or when he had Kaientai fake lip sync while Bruce Prichard did a dubbed over english promo live
The Baron Corbin push is fascinating. I almost have to believe it's legitimate trolling the audience, if spiteful instead of lighthearted trolling.
Tuesday's Smackdown Live was down in viewership numbers, generating 1.827 million viewers down from last week's 1.931 and slightly lower than the 1.833 two weeks ago, which up until Tuesday was the least watched Smackdown since the 2016 brand split and move to live shows. The 2018 edition drew 2.175 million and the 2017 edition was watched by 2.348 million.
On the night, Smackdown dropped all the way to #13 in total viewership and it even faltered in the 18-49 demographic, where the show finished #6. It was beat by an NBA playoff game, an NHL playoff game, SportsCenter, the NBA Draft Lottery show and an NBA pre-show.
Meanwhile, Miz & Mrs. was up in viewership numbers, being watched by 1.009 million compared to 898,000 the week before. It's only the second time the show has topped a million viewers this season and the first time in the last four weeks.
On the latest Wrestling Observer Radio, it was noted that WWE ended up fining Lars Sullivan $100,000 and putting him into sensitivity training due to some backlash and complaints from sponsors. When that happened, WWE felt they had to publicly take action but weren’t interested in releasing Sullivan outright. As a result, a significant $100,000 fine was levied.
It was also stated that it is a steep fine (one of the largest in history that the company has announced) and a good part of Sullivan’s yearly salary and definitely in the range of what he made last year in NXT. Dave Meltzer speculated that WWE will likely allow Lars to pay the fine over instalments by taking it out of his pay check and he confirmed that the fine is “real” despite some online speculation that it was made up.
Nitro:
9/23/96
3/8/99
5/31/99 or 6/7/99
Really all Nitros between late March and October of 1999 are just awful not even in the lmao Russo way, but the Jesus fuck Kevin Nash way.
4/10/00 The Bischoff/Russo reboot
I'm assuming you can pick just about any show in 00 and 01 and it's going to be terrible. Thunder was always trash so pick literally any episode.
https://twitter.com/RealPaigeWWE/status/1128571756472668160
So...they still didn't get the name they wanted. :doge
https://www.tmz.com/2019/05/16/ashley-massaro-wwe-superstar-dead-at-39/
:fbm
A lot of people are misinterpreting the situation, PAC was always supposed to beat Page. The issue was that the match would lead to PAC vs. Omega, which they didn't want Omega to lose, so they cancelled it
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make that face an emote :lol
https://www.cagesideseats.com/platform/amp/wwe/2019/5/21/18634222/wwe-raw-third-hour-changeI noticed they were doing that for the title matches on MITB. Reminded me of NXT, they do something similar
"WWE’s plan to improve Raw’s third hour involves (checks notes) dimming the lights"
:dead
i like that they advertise it as "equal to or exceeding wrestlemania". that's such a weird thing to say :lol
i like that they advertise it as "equal to or exceeding wrestlemania". that's such a weird thing to say :lol
i like that they advertise it as "equal to or exceeding wrestlemania". that's such a weird thing to say :lolI've said that's more of a threat than a positive but was told this year's mania was actually good in response. :-[
I've actually liked their PPVs this year. It's the weekly TV where they are struggling hard.
jericho's soggy titties and muffin top :oreillyare actually somewhat intentional, he gained weight to be a 'bruiser' type character in Japan. :lol
moxley :rejoice:rejoice :rejoice :rejoice
So are they believing their own hype a little too much or just playing to the smarky smarks?yes to both
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sj722uGZHX0:dead :dead :dead :dead :dead :dead :dead :dead :dead :dead :dead :dead
Ain't no party like a Brock party.i thought you were kidding https://streamja.com/5k7l
Also, I love that Bork Lesnar doesn't know the WWE and had to be informed he had a year to cash in his boom box.
Ain't no party like a Brock party.i thought you were kidding https://streamja.com/5k7l
Also, I love that Bork Lesnar doesn't know the WWE and had to be informed he had a year to cash in his boom box.
:rofl that's actually pretty great
Vince Russo is not buying the beef between WWE and AEW.
The former WWE, WCW and Impact Wrestling head writer took to social media on Tuesday to share his thoughts on what is truly going on, which is that he thinks the two promotions are actually "in bed together" (a.k.a. working together).
"Watching RAW on DVR–Unless @WWE is IN BED with @AEWrestling they have ABSOLUTELY lost their minds by acknowledging them on THEIR FLAGSHIP SHOW," wrote Russo of the Sami Zayn/AEW reference on Monday night's RAW. "#1 NEVER acknowledges #2. Conspiracy? Not when you look at Paul Heyman/ECW being in bed with WWE from the jump."
Russo continued, "Don't misunderstand me-if @WWE & @AEWrestling are working together-as I believe they are-it's a GOOD THING if it makes the wrestling product better for the casual fans. I'm just saying-don't be worked. This has happened once before with ECW/WWE. History tends to repeat itself."
The controversial behind-the-scenes wrestling figure concluded by sharing his belief that as far as he is concerned, "there is no question that WWE and AEW are in bed together."
"There's NO QUESTION that @WWE & @AEWrestling are in bed together--NONE," wrote Russo. "Several things don't add up. When you look at the entire picture it becomes evident. I'm going to invite the @CnsprcyHrsmn on the new "Truth with Consequences" to lay this all out. Bro---YOU'RE BEING WORKED."
I still think he fucking sucks, and I don't think it's just a WWE thing
That almost is the most surprising part...dude is pretty chill about everything. He liked the company, he liked the people, he liked the Make a Wish stuff, and he liked performing. He just didn't like the battles over stories and having to fight with Vince. Podcast is worth a listen, definitely a long vent session but not venomous or hatefully exaggerated. He seemed just as surprised as anyone else that they made a big hoopla over him leaving, that was pretty funny. :lol
I'm just glad he's able to catch his breath and move on to some shit that will make him happy
Link to the show: https://omny.fm/shows/talk-is-jericho/the-emancipation-of-jon-moxley
Chris Jericho was advertised to do a live Talk is Jericho show at Starrcast on 5/26, but wasn’t there. They put out a cardboard cutout of Jericho in its place before telling people he wasn’t there. According to Jericho, he had canceled the booking a month ago and told Conrad Thompson, due to finding out the event was going to air on Fite TV as part of their iPPV package. He said that they continued to advertise him after he had already said he wasn’t doing the show. Thompson hasn’t said anything about what happened.
Starrcast was still promoting Flair and PAC as being there the day of the events, the BTE that covered stuff at Starrcast still showed they had the Flair/Steamboat discussion advertised IN THE BUILDING DAYS AFTER FLAIR WAS TAKEN OFF THE EVENT :lol :lolsomeone on reddit said PAC was still in the opening movie for the show too. i didn't notice that but :rofl if so
PAC was still on all the promotional material for DON the day of as well :lol
Have listened to this song for 10 seconds and I'm already high af:lol
Bork Lesnar, after making a big deal about having a whole year to cash in, will cash in his money in the bank award this week.
Oddly, I was looking forward to more Boom Box Bork.
this saudi show has the worst fuckin card jesus christA WRESTLEMANIA EQUIVALENT EVENT
goldberg vs taker
hhh vs orton
roman vs shane
rollins vs corbin
dolph vs kofi
lars sullivan vs 3 mexicans i think?
50 man jobber battle royale
luckily el idolo andrade cien almas will be there to steal the show :playa
Rollins vs Corbin is hilarious
was the match worth watching? that's the only thing on the card that seemed interesting.
Mansoor is a NXT guy, which you would know if you WERE WATCHING THE ONLY WWE PROGRAMMING WORTH A SHIT, BORK
Mansoor is a NXT guy, which you would know if you WERE WATCHING THE ONLY WWE PROGRAMMING WORTH A SHIT, BORK
I just watch the Takeovers. I know, I know. Need to watch the TV. :-[
The saudi guy won the rumble held in saudi? :o
Main event time.
So...did Natalya and Alexa Bliss really fly over on the promise they would get to wrestle and then not be on the show at all? :lol
Raw starting with Rollins cutting a talking segment short by hitting Elias with a chair, giving a two line promo and leaving then a match starts...all within 10mins.
Is WWE learning?
EC3 showed up on TV just to get his shit wrecked by Rollins :lol
these fuckin frank thomas testosterone commercials are annoying as shit
Are those the NUGENIX commercials? Who the hell thought that name was a good idea?
FRANK THOMAS OUT HERE TURNING HUSBANDS INTO GIANT DADS :rejoice
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ou2-qgoGARo
that was the best raw in like 3 years :leon
Having a match within the first 10mins of Raw, Seth acting like he's got a spine for once as the champ, a bunch of people that have been background or not even on TV having time in the spotlight, promos from almost everyone (Lacey pls) being really good, and the matches were engaging as well. Even Roman had a good segment.
It definitely felt a lot different than the past month or so. I dunno, I actually felt compelled to watch this week when I normally just have it on the background.
Stro, as someone that spends a lot of time working out, what do you think of the natural male-enhancing power of NUGENIX?
I caught up on a couple of Network docs and man, Seth Rollins seems inescapably depressed and miserable. Even when he's a talking head in something like Becky's 24, he's so worn down and zombified. Then you'll see him walking around in other ones in the background or telling someone good job after a match and he's just :goty2 in every shot.
It's 2003 all over againgood news for smackdown :rejoice
It's 2003 all over againgood news for smackdown :rejoice
Wasn't Heyman the head writer for SD in 2003? Maybe now Raw is going to be the better show. :thinkingyep, that era of smackdown was great. rey, benoit, angle, edge, and eddie plus heyman writing :delicious brock and cena popped in around that time too (2004?)
Heyman had been working on certain storylines and with certain talents, including Ronda Rousey, Brock Lesnar, Alexa Bliss and many others dating back far before that point. He's been in the inner circle when it comes to the creative process for some time without an official title. He and WWE have been circling around this deal for a long time and finally came to terms recently.
To say this is a massive return to form for Bischoff is a grand understatement. We are told that WWE approached him about the role and that his previous work in collaborating with Turner Broadcasting. Spike and other networks in building past TV series was one of the reasons Bischoff was pitched for the position.
We are told that they will be overseeing all aspects of their individual series, answering directly to Vince McMahon. They are now the top of the pyramid, respectively, for Raw and Smackdown but obviously McMahon will always have the last say. One WWE source compared their roles to Paul Levesque's in NXT in that they will be in charge, but it's still Vince's company.
Free for you dirty yankistanis, maybe. While I'm over here looking for streams.
So far this is like Raw quality.
:cornettehttps://twitter.com/TheJimCornette/status/1145128226618036224
Is that next show in two weeks going to be streaming?
So is this gimmick that Mike is a cuck or something? ???it is now i guess :lol his previous gimmick was not being on tv so i guess this is a step up
G1 special from Dallas
first day of the G1 Climax tournament is in Dallas this year, it's airing on AXS, NJPW World, and various illegal sites as we speakG1 special from Dallas
???
You will NEVER catch me watching Raw or Smackdown dawg. But Finn/Nak had an NXT match and it was boring as hell, so I expect it to be extra trash on a random Smackdown.
Didn't even realize that Extreme Rules is this weekend. :lol No hype.
How did they get from Miz vs Shane to Shane vs Roman? And how the fuck did Taker get involved?The Shane and Roman beef is because of some fuckery at SuperSaudiShowdown with the Roman/Drew match (not sure what exactly, didn't watch). Then on a Raw, Shane (Smackdown star) and Drew (Smackdown star) were beating down Roman (Smackdown star) and Undertaker randomly appeared for unknown reasons and took them both out.
I looked at the WWE Web site to see the matches on for Sunday. The Undertaker and Roman Reigns are wrestling the boss' son and Drew McIntyre in the main event(?). What are you supposed to hype there, the possibility of two in-ring aneurysms?main event is a hardcore mixed tag winner takes all match with seth/becky vs corbin/lacey. :zzz heyman yet again teasing a brock cash-in but w/e. outside of the matches i listed above the event sounds kinda lackluster.
Corbin/Lacey as a main event pairing is the most aggressive fuck you Vince has ever thrown out at his audience, imo
Chris Jericho spends about 7 minutes making fun of Stephanie's boob job. It's literally middle school shit. He has an upcoming match with Rhyno but ignores him to say BOOBIES. Booker comes out, then Rock comes out, calls Shane (who isn't even out there) both a pussy and a motherfucker (neither are censored on Network, motherfucker was on TV I believe, Steph missed her cue on both to cut him off :lol ), then stops just short of calling Booker a distinguished mentally-challenged fellow. Jericho saying "boobies", literally, got a bigger pop than anything you've heard in years besides maybe Bryan at his absolute PEAK of YES Movement. :juicy
https://twitter.com/real1/status/1148790518509375488I WAS ON TV FOR A MONTH! ::)
I'll say this: NXT UK could really use Enzo right now :zzz
Stone Cold leads an appreciation night for himself after retaining the WWF Championship via DQ against Kurt Angle. This leads to MILKOMANIA RUNNING WILD. As JR was solo on commentary for this due to Heyman being the MC, he took the time to berry every Alliance member that spoke.
A 12 man tag of mid carders doing nothing (Big Show/APA/Spike/Billy Gunn/Scotty 2 Hotty vs Dudleys/O'Haire/Palumbo/Hugh Morrus/Tommy Dreamer) but finisher spam for 5 minutes that had bigger reactions than any main event WWE can do today. This is the last time any of the Alliance guys besides the Dudleys wrestle on Raw for the rest of the angle.
DDP gets his ass beaten by Undertaker yet again, and is then pinned by Sara Taker. This is basically the end for DDP. He has 4 televised matches through Survivor Series and end of the Invasion. Note: That's a full 3 months. DDP is the biggest star to come over from WCW. They buried him from the start and then didn't even use him for the last half of the angle. He came in by allowing his contract with Turner to be bought out at 50 cents (possibly less) on the dollar, then took a much lower contract than what he had with WCW because he really wanted to be involved. He was immediately turned heel and took on a creepy pervert stalker gimmick, despite the absurdity of him being obsessed with Sara Taker when he was married to Kimberly. Literally every week after he gets his ass kicked by Taker and most weeks, Taker's Wife, sometimes Kane as well. Then to end it all Taker beats his ass at Summerslam, then does it again the next night on Raw and has his wife pin him. After that he has 2 squash matches against Big Show (one on a UK only PPV, one in 29 secs on Smackdown), a match on Heat with Edge, and the battle royal at Survivor Series, all of which are in November, so he was completely absent for September and October, and essentially November as well. You might remember I mentioned Palumbo and O'Haire being pulled from main shows after a Taker squash. After this show, they're now also gone for the last 3 months of the angle. Kanyon gets another two weeks before he loses the US title and is only on the weekend shows for the last 3 months. Rhyno also is going to go down hurt and miss the last 2 months.
By the time they get to Survivor Series, the Alliance has: Steve Austin, Kurt Angle, Christian, Shane and Stephanie McMahon, William Regal, Test, Debra, Ivory, Terri having jumped from WWF. Guys already on the WWF roster before the angle started: Dudley Boys, Raven , Rhyno, Justin Credible, Tazz, Paul Heyman. Guys who debuted with the angle: RVD, Tommy Dreamer, Booker T, DDP, Chuck Palumbo, Sean O'Haire, Kidman, Kanyon, Lance Storm, Mike Awesome, Hugh Morrus, Shawn Stasiak, Shane Helms, Buff Bagwell, Chavo Guerrero Jr. At some point both members of Kronik came in for I think two matches, and Steven Richards was their manager but they quit/fired right after a garbage match with Taker/Kane.
So, by the time the angle ended, these were the people who came in from ECW/WCW for the angle and were not already WWF talent who were still wrestling on Raw/SD: Booker T, RVD, Lance Storm, and oddly enough The Hurricane. That's it. Kidman vanished after the first few weeks and didn't come back until the last month or so, but only once or twice on main shows. Chavo popped up late into the angle but only on SD once I think. The rest of Alliance matches on TV were from guys who had been in WWE 3 months to 2 1/2 years before the angle started or were WWF guys before ECW/WCW even went out of business.
br live doesn't work for me, I've tried every browser :stahp
I can't even get to a video player :fbmbr live doesn't work for me, I've tried every browser :stahp
??? Works for me- thought it was fucked up, then realized if you start from the beginning it's just a bunch of nothing and you have to skip ahead until the broadcast actually starts.
I've tried disabling everything, tried all browsers :bagelguy
AEW President and co-founder Tony Khan released a statement on Twitter last night revealing that the staging for Fight for the Fallen was inspired by an old wrestling based episode of South Park. Khan also stated that the event wasn't designed to make a profit, as all the money they raised went towards the victims of the Jacksonville shooting from August 2018.
AEW would end up raising an impressive $150,000, with Cody Rhodes announcing more donations expected to come.
the one thing I didn't try and it worked :mjcry now I have to use chrome to watch :yuckI've tried disabling everything, tried all browsers :bagelguy
Just run it into incognito mode.
lol brock new champ
lol bork is champ again:brock :cornette :brock
bork should have taken it off kofi. tired of seth and brockI was suspecting this would happen since Fox would probably like a big name for the champ of SD when it starts up on their network.
was filler running the cameras last night?
https://streamable.com/6y80q
:lol
lmao that was aggressive as hell
was filler running the cameras last night?
https://streamable.com/6y80q
:lol
Heyman Raw Era begins with...Heyman coming out (with Bork) :lol
was filler running the cameras last night?
https://streamable.com/6y80q
:lol
cant tell if Renee's "jeez" was in disgust or thirst.
either way :cornette
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:nugenix
should be some enzo and big cass emoticons tbh ::)
R Truth gazed like a madman at that sweet Drake ass.
R Truth gazed like a madman at that sweet Drake ass.
Was just about to post this :lol :rofl
i never liked charlotte much. but i didnt imagine the womens division would tank so much w/o her
they need sasha back bad too. give her the mega push.
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Free ride ends next month. $50. Whew.
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Free ride ends next month. $50. Whew.
Nope! They must be joking to be charging that much.
(https://i.imgur.com/HDAm6cN.png)lol paying for streams.
Free ride ends next month. $50. Whew.
I read something that Bischoff was supposed to start 2-3 weeks ago and it keeps getting pushed back and he hasn't even been at the shows at all and everyone is just :what wondering what the fuck they're supposed to do until then
Everyone has been dropping middle fingers lately. Kofi, Seth, Becky, and now KO too. I guess they are just having everyone do it and see who gets the best reaction.
on his podcast he said he wasn't taking over til after extreme rules cause he had to get all his shit handled before he moved to connecticut
Well the reports are he also wasn't involved at all in last night's show and unlike Heyman, hasn't offered any ideas or anything to anyone. Why the fuck is he moving to Connecticut for this? There's no way Heyman/Bischoff aren't canned by the end of the year, and surely he's not expected to be at Titan Towers during the week.
Well if he is gonna be the Fox liaison guy, probably easier for him to be in CT since Fox is in NYC and he can work with WWE people as well. At the very least it's easier than being two timezones away. That's my guess anyway.
Bayley is so bad on the mic.
Bayley is so bad on the mic.
I remember she did a promotional on Raw Talk, and it was so awful Lita called it out. You know you are awful when Lita calls you out for doing a terrible monologue.
Also, Booker T stepped in and "fixed" Bayley's awful promo.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7wLS-IoZbM
In conclusion, Dusty's promo class didn't help Bayley.
Double Talk Dave said DON did over 100k buys worldwide, about 70k in the US. I'm pretty sure it was at the same price point (for some reason, they push people to buy it on B/R Streaming instead of traditional PPV, but it's the same price point for both, so idk why anyone would be inclined to buy it on an app they have to download and pay extra for in the same way that UFC now puts their PPVs behind a streaming service subscription paywall seems really fucking stupid to me). They have their audience willing to pay that premium, I don't think that will last that long if their events aren't better than FF/FFTF.
Once they start TV is going to be interesting because I see a whole, whole lot of structural issues that I think TV is going to exacerbate and cause this thing to fall apart a lot quicker than expected. Lotta dudes burning bridges with this starting up thinking there's no way it wasn't going to last forever and they're getting that big money, but tbh each show I have less and less faith that they aren't going to implode on themselves within a year or two.
I do not think Cody/Bucks/Kenny doing their blatant RAH RAH WE'RE STARTING A REVOLUTION bullshit straight out of the ECW playbook can sustain itself in 2019 with billions of entertainment services, 30 different wrestling streaming services, the prices for everything, and the general audience being wise to that brainwashing attempted bullshit. I also don't think that really works when you start your company with the backing of a billionaire and getting a TNT TV deal before you even run a single show really has the grass roots feel to it.
Then again, smarks are the easiest fans to work so who knows.
Bubba works for ROH now so there's probably a contract thing stopping it.
bring out rikishi
dont use the theme people actually know and like
aight
Did they use the Headshrinkers theme or Bad Man?
kelly still looking good too
bring out rikishi
dont use the theme people actually know and like
aight
Did they use the Headshrinkers theme or Bad Man?
Too Cool theme.
:??? but that was his theme too
Hope so...she's only 32!:leon
...only 2 DX members?
Dave Meltzer of the Wrestling Observer Newsletter (h/t Wrestling Inc's Marc Middleton) reported Bischoff was unlikely to serve as the creative leader for SmackDown's storylines. The presumption was that he instead would work closely with Fox as the network becomes the show's new home in October.:badass
Bischoff addressed the situation on his podcast 83 Weeks (h/t Robert Gunier of Wrestling Inc):
"I've been reading a lot of the 'dirt' from a lot of the 'dirt sheets'/faux journalists out there that presumably are trying to convince people that they know what's really going on. So far, the reporting on all of my—everything that I've read has been wrong! I'm not going to address it specifically because No. 1 I don't want to give them or the crap that they bring any credibility. My start date was never supposed to be before July 22. I made that very clear and that was the understanding across the board but nonetheless, it was reported across the boards early on by dirt sheet scumbags not-to-be-named-here and it was reported wrong."
Lead writers Steve Guerreri and Steve Oppenheim were let go by WWE last week. Pro Wrestling Sheet first reported it, and said the releases were not Paul Heyman or Eric Bischoff’s call.:hmm
I'm going to assume RVD 1. Didn't ask anyone in TNA if they were okay with him going on Raw (not like they could stop him anyway) 2. No one in WWE knew he was in TNA 3. He didn't mention it to them either :lol
I swear they have the same group for every show/Axxess for 10 years :lol Some of them were still active when they started doing these reunion/anniversary/throw back shows.
I think I read Finn’s time off starts after SummerSlam.
(https://i.imgur.com/oNNpmwb.jpg)Joey Ryan & Orange Cassidy dream team. :bow
omg I want to see Scott Steiner and Orange Cassidy go at it. At a Rancid themed event. In an American Legion hall.
people online saying its 12-15k when set up for wrestling but that's still a good number
Luckily for AEW the bar is so low that just not being awful is a victory. It's really up to them to fuck this up for themselves and the rest of the industry as a whole.
Luckily for AEW the bar is so low that just not being awful is a victory. It's really up to them to fuck this up for themselves and the rest of the industry as a whole.
Can't wait to see how they do that! :hyperspoiler (click to show/hide):-\[close]
Aiden English's obsession with Humberto Carrillo's face is the weirdest thing :lol It's on the same tier as Graves' obsession with Mandy Rose that clearly goes into entirely inappropriate for work and would be sexual harassment if he actually ever spoke to her.
Also :lol at already having a masked team of lucha dudes and instead getting two unaffiliated unmasked guys to do a bunch of Lucha Bros spots.
:jeanluc at how empty that arena was. It was basically just the floor seats. I don't think I've ever seen the opposite hard cam side that empty ever. They're filming before SD now? Like...how many hours before SD? Shane Strickland is legit, happy to see they are immediately giving him shit to do instead of have him sit around for months and months and months at the PC and tiny Florida cites.
This had to be the best 205 since they lost Ali, Buddy Murphy, and Cedric within a few weeks of each other.
The goal right now is to run 100 to 120 live events per year, probably four PPVs, 51 television shows and many Saturday night house shows and on occasion more than one house show a week, but with the idea that in spreading the talent out, the top talent does maybe 75 matches, a number hopeful to keep their ability to work great matches high, since that’s probably more of a key goal is high match quality on top as compared with any other promotion
There’s been some talk of NXT going live on FS1 opposite AEW’s TNT show. This could also involve integrating the brand with 205 Live.
Whether he'll actually step back remains to be seen, considering just this week he popped into Smackdown that he wasn't scheduled to be at and rewrote the entire show 4 hours before air time :lol
"see?? Vince has still got it!"
Alzheimers?
That's a new money-making gimmick!!\
With another lackluster quarterly earnings report on the books, WWE attempted to mask its poor performance during its Q2 earnings call by focusing on the new overseers, Paul Heyman and Eric Bischoff, of his primetime series on USA and eventually Fox.
The decision to create two new executive positions is just what McMahon needs to position himself to take a more strategic view of the WWE product, allowing the wrestling company to refresh their output, or as McMahon put it, “relaunch in terms of our content.”
The company put the best possible face on the numbers by noting the declines were shrinking, pointing out that lower ratings at the end of the quarter were not as steep as the ones that began it.
In another creative refresh, McMahon stated on the call that WWE would be increasing the edginess of the storylines, but staying within the parameters of a PG rating. This is a smart move to attempt to lure back lapsed fans who may be bored with the current product’s tame/non-existent stories, and lured to new wrestling company AEW, which carries a TV-14 rating.
On that note, the WWE head also decried AEW’s recent focus on what he dubbed “blood and guts” and stated that the WWE “is just not going back to that gory crap that we graduated from.”
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omg plz add to smilies
that ending was weird :lol
edit: https://streamable.com/cm3h2
Wtf
Wtf
(https://www.thecoli.com/media/bischoff-wow.2871/full)spoiler (click to show/hide)according to meltz vince called for a rewrite of smackdown at the last minute again this week[close]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z42MB5rd_xMthat ending was weird :lol
edit: https://streamable.com/cm3h2
That looked like something from a circa 2003 PS2 Smackdown game
that ending was weird :lol
edit: https://streamable.com/cm3h2
that ending was weird :lol
edit: https://streamable.com/cm3h2
That looked like something from a circa 2003 PS2 Smackdown game
that ending was weird :lol
edit: https://streamable.com/cm3h2
Apparently the last match of the night went too long and they ran out of time to do the segment properly. :lol
:what that obviously wasn't a live segment, they could have done that any time during the day
On today's Observer Radio, Dave reported that five new matches will be added to the card for SummerSlam.spoiler (click to show/hide)Dolph Ziggler vs. Goldberg
Roman Reigns vs. Daniel Bryan
Iconics vs. Mandy and Sonya vs. Bliss and Cross vs. Kabuki Warriors for the Women's Tag Titles
Drew Gulak vs. Oney Lorcan for the Cruiserweight Title
Drew McIntyre vs. Cedric Alexander[close]
I'm here for that Roman match. It's bizarre but Roman has suddenly become the last likable Shield member left in WWE. They need to turn Seth heel after Summerslam, the Becky Lynch's boyfriend angle ruined him (and diminished her)
he's fat:samoa
PLOT TWIST!
The segment which closed SmackDown this past Tuesday has already been mocked for a variety of reasons. Ridiculously produced, badly acted, and the latest example of WWE promising something - Roman Reigns announcing his SummerSlam opponent - and not delivering. But at least the scene of a production rig falling on the Big Dog gave us a mystery! Right!?!?!?
Well, WWE launched an “investigation” into the incident, and if we take it at face value, the case is closed.
“In the final moments of this week’s SmackDown LIVE, Roman Reigns was intending to make a SummerSlam challenge from the backstage area, but The Big Dog just barely evaded sheer catastrophe when tons of steel beams came plummeting toward him.
A preliminary investigation has found the incident Tuesday night involving Roman Reigns was caused by a forklift backstage carrying lighting grids that were not properly secured.
Update to story - 10:40 a.m. ET
It has now been determined that the incident in question was specifically caused by a forklift driver error.”
* Astrolux, Dragon Bane, and Arkangel Divino vs. Aramis, Toxin, and Arez (Pre-Show)
* La Parka vs. Pagano vs. Puma King vs. Aero Star vs. Drago vs. Averno vs. Chessman vs. Super Fly vs. Electroshock vs. Monster Clown vs. Daga vs. TBA (Copa TripleMania)
* Blue Demon Jr. vs. Rey Wagner (Mask vs. Hair Match)
* Niño Hamburguesa and Big Mami (c) vs. Sammy Guevara and Scarlett Bordeaux vs. Villano III Jr. and Lady Maravilla vs. Australian Suicide and Vanilla (Four-Way for the AAA World Mixed Tag Team Championship)
* El Hijo del Vikingo, Myzteziz Jr., and Golden Magic vs. Mocho Cota Jr., Carta Brava Jr., and Tito Santana vs. Pimpinela Escarlata, Mamba, and Máximo
* Keyra (c) vs. Lady Shani vs. Taya vs. Tessa Blanchard vs. Faby Apache vs. Chik Tormenta vs. La Hiedra (TLC Match for the AAA Reina de Reinas Championship)
* Laredo Kid, Pentagón Jr., and Fénix vs. Kenny Omega and The Young Bucks
* Psycho Clown, Cody Rhodes, and Cain Velasquez vs. Texano Jr., Taurus, and a mystery opponent:mindblown
Samoa Joe has been fined an undisclosed amount by WWE due to his behavior earlier today at Pittsburgh International Airport.
When asked by a WWE producer if he was responsible for the forklift incident that nearly injured Roman Reigns this past Tuesday night on SmackDown LIVE, Joe responded aggressively and knocked the phone out of the producer’s hand.
Goldberg....vs Dolph Ziggler
what the fuck
My IIconics got done dirty
:tocry
It's ok Peyton, you'll always be champ of my heart
On the plus side this means Roman vs DBryan which should be pretty good.
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I'm so confused about so many WWE things right now
What the fuck is this forklift angle with Roman? The associated tweets to push it along are so random and weird. The way it was shot/edited was so bad and weird and stupid I wasn't even sure what it was I was watching.
Why is Goldberg having a match with Dog Ziggler?
They had the IIconics win the tag titles at WRESTLEMANIA, and in the 4 months they've had the titles, they've had 3 defenses before dropping the titles in a random four way match? :lol
Do they even pretend there's a roster split anymore? Looking at the results it looks like it was almost entirely Smackdown talent(New Day, Kabookey Warriors, IIconics, Mandy/Sonya, Rey, Andrade, Joe, Roman, Dog Ziggler, Charlotte).
We getting the Samoan Joes :rejoice
Bryan Alvarez noted yesterday that Vince McMahon once again tore up the script for SmackDown late in the day and rewrote the show.
Along those same lines, Ryan Satin says he heard Eric Bischoff still hasn’t had much influence on creative since starting work.
According to the Observer, the idea is now that Daniel Bryan is a heel that even the other heels dislike. That’s part of the story they’re telling with the Roman Reigns attacks.
There are people in power who are behind Andrade, says Dave Meltzer on Wrestling Observer Radio, and they may be starting up trying to do something with him now.
A mask vs. hair match against Rey Mysterio, by the way, likely won’t happen, apparently because they don’t want Andrade cutting his hair and Mysterio can’t lose his mask.
The ending reveal by Buddy Murphy that Rowan was the person behind (one? both?) attacks on Reigns “may not be 100% set in stone as other ideas have been pitched.”
Bryan’s “career-altering announcement” appears to have been dropped completely, as no one mentioned it backstage last night. WWE could always decide to work it back into this or a different storyline, however.
A casualty of the overall changes appears to be the match between Roman & DB which was planned for SummerSlam. That will now “likely be dropped in order to let the current storyline play out.”
What :lol :lol :lol the fuck is going on with smackdownAfter finding out Joey Samoey wasn't at fault for the accidents, Roman got word Buddy was responsible. This lead to a segment where Roman kicked everyone out of the locker room except Buddy and then yelled at Buddy who said he didn't do shit and if he knew who it was he wouldn't tell Roman. Roman then threw him around the locker room for a few mins and Buddy said it was Rowan.
What :lol :lol :lol the fuck is going on with smackdownAfter finding out Joey Samoey wasn't at fault for the accidents, Roman got word Buddy was responsible. This lead to a segment where Roman kicked everyone out of the locker room except Buddy and then yelled at Buddy who said he didn't do shit and if he knew who it was he wouldn't tell Roman. Roman then threw him around the locker room for a few mins and Buddy said it was Rowan.
This was all broadcast on the Titantron and Smackdown ended with a shot of Bryan and Rowan (who just finished a match with New Day) from behind watching it the screen. No real resolution or dialogue or anything. :lol
Why the fuck is he wearing a crooked Warner Brothers hat for this :lol
No Andrade :gloomy
Per the Wrestling Observer Newsletter, there have been many changes made to the SummerSlam card over the past week, with much of it playing out on Raw and SmackDown.
That includes Paul Heyman apparently making the decision to do the women’s tag team title change on Raw, and a Sami Zayn vs. Aleister Black moving up.
There could be further changes coming to the SummerSlam card and, in fact, the Observer notes those changes are “likely.”
We see AJ Styles, Luke Gallows and Karl Anderson approach Finn Balor backstage and start hassling him. They say this is The OC's world, and AJ is going to finish off Ricochet for good tonight. AJ says he's been getting good luck wishes all week, but Finn is the one who might need good luck tonight. Finn says he's not going to play Bray Wyatt's mind games. AJ says it would be a shame if Wyatt did to Balor what he did to Mick Foley and Kurt Angle. AJ says Balor should give them the word if he needs any help during his match.
Oney Lorcan vs. Drew Gulak (c): Gulak's Cruiserweight Title is on the line in this one. Gulak connects with a leaping knee to Oney's face right off the opening bell. Gulak wrestles Oney down to the mat, and the two men trade holds now until they get up to their feet and have a stare down. Oney fires up with a series of chops to the chest, but Gulak is able to take him down again and regain control of the pace. Lorcan comes back with a running blockbuster for a two count, and Gulak rolls out to ringside for a breather. Lorcan follows him out and nails the Champion with some stiff chops to the chest. Back in the ring, Gulak grabs Lorcan and applies his modified dragon sleeper, but Lorcan reaches the ropes to break the hold. They brawl back and forth in the ring now, and Lorcan grabs Gulak by the beard or face and starts slapping him. Lorcan hits a series of running elbow strikes, and the Champion is down. Gulak pulls on the ring apron, and when the ref goes to fix it, Gulak hits a shot to the throat of Lorcan. This leads to Gulak hitting the Cyclone Crash for the three count.
Winner & still Cruiserweight Champion: Drew Gulak
Apollo Crews vs. Buddy Murphy: We're told this is Buddy Murphy's first match as an official member of the SmackDown Live roster. The opening bell sounds and Murphy immediately starts off with a running knee to the face of Crews for a two count. Murphy follows up by stomping on Crews in the corner. Crews fights up and they run the ropes, and they collide in mid-air and both men are down. Crews is up first and hits an enziguri on Murphy, then he follows up with more strikes. More kicks from Crews, then he misses a shot and Murphy fires back with a kick of his own. Murphy looks for a flying cross body off the turnbuckle, but Crews catches him and hits a Samoan drop. Crews follows up with a standing moonsault for a two count. Murphy and Crews fight in the corner, and Murphy gets the upper hand with some kicks. Murphy follows up with a running powerbomb for a two count. They fight out to ringside, and Murphy throws Crews into the steel steps. Murphy gets in the ring and comes flying back out with a suicide Swanton Bomb on Crews on the ringside floor. Murphy throws Crews in the ring, but before Murphy himself can get back in, Rowan comes out of nowhere and attacks Murphy. Rowan beats down Murphy at ringside and the ref calls for the bell.
Winner via DQ: Buddy Murphy
Rowan continues to beat down Murphy, and he powerbombs Murphy into the ring post. Rowan yells at Murphy to keep his name out of his mouth. The screen cuts to backstage and we see Daniel Bryan watching on a monitor.
Elias comes out to the ring for a song and starts trashing Toronto. WWE Hall of Famer Edge comes out to interrupt. Edge gets in the ring and hits the spear on Elias. Edge heads to the back and poses on the stage for his hometown fans.
Alexa Bliss & Nikki Cross (c) vs. The Iconics: The Women's Tag Titles are on the line in this one. Nikki starts off strong against Billie, and then Nikki tags in for the double team. Billie turns things around, then tags in Peyton for the double team. Peyton works on keeping Nikki grounded now, and throws her down by the hair. Peyton and Billie trade frequent tags now to continue the offense on Nikki. Nikki finally fights back, and Nikki and Peyton both take each other down by the hair at the same time. Alexa and Billie tag in, and Alexa cleans house. Alexa wastes some time taunting Peyton, which leads to Billie booting her in the face. Nikki breaks up the pin attempt. Peyton tags in, but Alexa fights off the double team, and Nikki takes out Billie. PEyton misses a kick, but she connects with a backbreaker for a two count. Peyton wastes some time throwing a temper tantrum, and Alexa drops her. Alexa follows up with the Twisted Bliss for the three count.
Winners & still Women's Tag Team Champions: Nikki Cross & Alexa Bliss
I didn't know Edge was allowed to do anything physical at all
I don't get bringing back Goldberg. His whole gimmick was getting the hugest push of his time, as in the longest winning streak I remembered. Do people actually like him?
AJ styles wins.
I don't get bringing back Goldberg. His whole gimmick was getting the hugest push of his time, as in the longest winning streak I remembered. Do people actually like him?
As novelty acts go, he's fine. He doesn't stick around long, and he's got some charisma to him. He is the direct opposite of Shane McMahon, in other words, whose welcome was never extended and thus could never be worn out.
Takeover was great. The guy from the Street Profits is incredible. I loved Io Shirai's match. As an aside, I would like to marry both Io and Charlie Caruso.
AJ styles wins.
Worth watching the whole thing? I paused it for 20 minutes or so to go take the dog out.
I don't get bringing back Goldberg. His whole gimmick was getting the hugest push of his time, as in the longest winning streak I remembered. Do people actually like him?
As novelty acts go, he's fine. He doesn't stick around long, and he's got some charisma to him. He is the direct opposite of Shane McMahon, in other words, whose welcome was never extended and thus could never be worn out.
Takeover was great. The guy from the Street Profits is incredible. I loved Io Shirai's match. As an aside, I would like to marry both Io and Charlie Caruso.
Heel Io's look
:mouf
Implied neck snapping too? JFC.
Good to see him go over at least- I half-expected them to have Finn win. That's how it felt with Bray before. :doge
Implied neck snapping too? JFC.
Good to see him go over at least- I half-expected them to have Finn win. That's how it felt with Bray before. :doge
Finn is supposed to take a couple of months on leave after Summerslam. Kind of hope Finn brings back his Demon persona after he comes back.
Implied neck snapping too? JFC.
Good to see him go over at least- I half-expected them to have Finn win. That's how it felt with Bray before. :doge
Is the crowd chanting "Kofi's stupid, Randy sucks?" LMAO.I thought it was 'Kofi's Stupid, Randy's not'.
Vince McMahon and Kevin Dunn will “have to” get more involved with NXT if it becomes a live two hour show on FS1, per Dave Meltzer.
Interesting how both Lacey Evans and Baron Corbin have disappeared lately. :lolwell deserved time off for championship level talent :playa
so sasha demanded a main event title feud to come back
WWE remembered they have Braun.i'm into it
So are we getting the OC vs. Rollins/Braun/Ricochet now? :thinking
Interesting how both Lacey Evans and Baron Corbin have disappeared lately. :lol
Interesting how both Lacey Evans and Baron Corbin have disappeared lately. :lol
Don't worry breh, King of the Ring coming back next week, gonna have King Corbin
:money
Raw: Baron Corbin, Cesaro, Cedric Alexander, Drew McIntyre, Ricochet, Sami Zayn, Samoa Joe & The Miz
Smackdown: Ali, Andrade, Apollo Crews, Buddy Murphy, Chad Gable, Elias, Kevin Owens & Shelton Benjamin
Buddy Murphy can't catch a fuckin break :lol
I find it absolutely hysterical how for a looooong time smarks believed Shane leaving is what made the show they liked when they were 11 go bad only to be proven oh so very wrong when he came back and is by far the worst McMahon we have to deal with.
Watching Orange Cassidy get over is gonna be worth it just to watch Cornette die in public (and I kinda like Corny in some ways)Detractors say he's always the same, but most of the times I've seen him he's done different clever interesting shit.
If you turn NXT into a full fledge show, what's the developmental show?
When it still sucks who are smarks gonna blame :heyman
no nxt announcement yet tonight as promised by meltz and jericho, still time after the tag match i guess.
https://twitter.com/LORAFRIMANEE/status/1163640267741769730
last night's raw was all pretty good so i wonder what they cut. i'd say joe/cesaro but that was a KOTR match
also the press release on NXT says it will still be at Full Sail
https://www.wwe.com/shows/wwenxt/article/nxt-moves-to-usa-network?sf217821656=1
also the commentary team is staying the same
https://twitter.com/mauroranallo/status/1163817129759522820
Team WWF (Chris Jericho, Big Show, Kane, The Rock and The Undertaker) defeated The Alliance (Booker T, Kurt Angle, Rob Van Dam, Shane McMahon and Stone Cold Steve Austin)
Chris Jericho has been such a lame asshole for so long it's almost impossible to remember there was a time when he was cool and entertaining. However that time was about 20 years ago.
https://twitter.com/BossMoz/status/1163998153428754433
:larry
Chris Jericho has been such a lame asshole for so long it's almost impossible to remember there was a time when he was cool and entertaining. However that time was about 20 years ago.
I liked the bit where he returned to WWE, incited the crowd for 10 straight minutes without saying anything, and then left. That was amusing. Oh, and when he called Tom Phillips "Tim." I think he can still be entertaining.
I still dig Chris' work. :-[
Chris Jericho has been such a lame asshole for so long it's almost impossible to remember there was a time when he was cool and entertaining. However that time was about 20 years ago.
I liked the bit where he returned to WWE, incited the crowd for 10 straight minutes without saying anything, and then left. That was amusing. Oh, and when he called Tom Phillips "Tim." I think he can still be entertaining.
This one, right?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xgJtlt1h_Lc
Good stuff. :lol
Another story going around backstage as it pertains to NXT’s future is that it will continue along its same path with Triple H heading up the brand and no real direct involvement from either Vince McMahon or Kevin Dunn. The Wrestling Observer Newsletter notes that this will probably be the case as long as ratings are good and that while ultimately the company is his and he will give suggestions here and there, he will most likely remain “hands off” due to time constraints he already has that will get worse when the XFL launches next year. It was cautioned, however, that if AEW begins winning the “ratings war”, Vince wouldn’t hesitate to get more involved not just creatively, but perhaps by using more main roster stars on NXT or even moving NXT out of Full Sail University
https://twitter.com/ShamrockKen/status/1165067744468983808The best part is that Ken Shamrock tagged the wrong twitter account after tagging the right one earlier.
Ken Shamrock has lived a hard life.
:jeb
If only so he can change his attire to something like
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instead of a TGIF waiter
I thought you were making a terrible suggestion, but they actually put Roode and Ziggler in a team? :notlikethisand they just beat lucha house party and the revival in this tag team gauntlet
once one of the usos got arrested again they had the OC win it in a triple threat and neither uso has been on tv since
https://twitter.com/WWE/status/1166531102808268800
:brain
finally someone who can cut a damn promoYes, a promo. The same promo every time. :zzz
and stro is correct, quick dave reversal :lol
https://twitter.com/davemeltzerWON/status/1167136605179527168
:stahpand stro is correct, quick dave reversal :lol
https://twitter.com/davemeltzerWON/status/1167136605179527168
SUCK IT FILLER
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and stro is correct, quick dave reversal :lol
https://twitter.com/davemeltzerWON/status/1167136605179527168
Rumors now are that Vince is going to do another draft before Smackdown Fox move.
Enzo is enjoying the attention.What, takeover by injuring yourselves sliding under the ropes and falling off the apron? FOH
https://twitter.com/real1/status/1167512965492424704
probably the opposite. fox is paying a lot more than usa
Bryan Alvarez: WWE to break some big news next week, said to be on par with the NXT TV deal.
“I don’t know what the news is. I know that something happened within WWE yesterday that the people that do know what it is were expecting the word to get out yesterday but it didn’t. The feeling is that it will get out probably sometime next week. I don’t know what it is. I know that the people that know feel like it’s a very big story so we’ll have to wait. It’s very similar to the NXT to USA story in the sense that, I heard about the news in the morning and I expected the news to be out by the end of the day and it wasn’t so we waited until the news broke. Something absolutely happened and we’re gonna know about it soon enough and that’s literally all I can tell you about it. But people there do believe that it’s a big story.”
Fox is moving to the WWE Network.
I don't think enough people have B/R Live for there to be streams :lol
Is DDP Riker?
Jericho over Page to become the first AEW champ.
Yeah four kinda meh shows in a row has lessened my positivity on AEW a bunch. I suppose they can right this once TV hits and they have an easier way to tell a story but how are they even handling that? Is there going to be writers/editors? Who's even handling booking?
The only real character/story they have going right now is that Kenny would rather be wrestling in Japan instead of his own company :lol
https://twitter.com/WWE/status/1168645583529238528
Is this supposed to mimic a boxing or MMA match signing?
Honestly, at this point the best case scenario might somehow be AEW shitting the bed so Vince mostly leaves NXT alone and it can just be 2 (really 1.5 considering commercials) hours of what people love about NXT already
(haha it's gonna be destroyed because we can't have anything nice)
I might actually have to start watching RAW and smackdown regularly if they just let Bray Wyatt do this all year.
https://twitter.com/WWE/status/1168720485544103936
Should be interesting, especially since Bayley is in a feud with Charlotte on SD
https://twitter.com/WWE/status/1168720485544103936
Should be interesting, especially since Bayley is in a feud with Charlotte on SD
About time. Although yeah- feels like too many heels now. I guess if nothing else, they have Bayley drop the title and then re-team with Sasha to go after the tag belts again.
Three of the four horsewomen are now heel. Rumor is that they are all being set up to reunite in some capacity later on.
"The victim reported the theft of his championship wrestling belt while he was eating inside Longhorn Steakhouse. The victim stated he arrived at the Millionaire Club Airport Terminal and place the belt inside his rented limousine. The limo driver shuttled the victim to Longhorn for dinner. The victim remained at Longhorn while the limo driver returned to the airport. The victim had taken the wrong luggage from the airport and the driver took it back to the terminal. When the driver picked up the victim from the restaurant, the belt was missing. Responding officers searched the limo and airport for the belt without success. On-call CID was consulted, and forensics responded to the scene.
Victim: Christopher "Jericho" Irvine, W/M, 11/9/70
Jerry Lawler from mid 1997 on is one of the most embarrassing characters in the history of pro wrestling
Jerry Lawler from mid 1997 on is one of the most embarrassing characters in the history of pro wrestling
He at least made for a stupid-fun heel-leaning color commentator. When WWE went PG it was like he got neutered. :lol
I disagree completely. He was garbage as a color man in WWF PG, WWF TV 14, WWE TV 14, WWE PG. Now, Then, Forever.
1. Jericho lost the title? WHAT :lol
2. Longhorn Steakhouse :doge
Andrade :gloomy
Good match though!
...Rowan vs Roman is waaaaaaay less exciting than Bryan vs Roman
WWE needs to do a 24/7 belt segment mocking this.When Drake won the belt for a sec last night Graves said something like "now he's gotta take a limo to a chain restaurant" :lol
Wait so he flew back home with the belt, and instead of going home with his luggage and gear first, instead took a limo to go to a chain restaurant?
:dead :dead :dead
And you know what happens when Vince thinks of lesbians-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3UqQU8-lbDE
:money
I love the graphic that just says "THE LESBIANS" :lol
:dead
King having orgasms and using binoculars
:dead :dead
Wait so he flew back home with the belt, and instead of going home with his luggage and gear first, instead took a limo to go to a chain restaurant?
:dead :dead :dead
Living the Fat Jericho gimmick :rejoiceFaticho! :teehee
Newly crowned All Elite Wrestling champion Chris Jericho will defend his title against Cody Rhodes at the Full Gear pay-per-view event in November, Sports Illustrated has learned.
The match is indicative of AEW’s commitment to the win-loss record of its stars. Rhodes has yet to lose in singles action, defeating Shawn Spears at this past weekend’s All Out pay-per-view, as well having his hand raised in the company’s signature match, which took place against Dustin Rhodes in May at the inaugural Double or Nothing show. Rhodes also went to a draw with Darby Allin at Fyter Fest in July.
charlotte just dropped one of the worst moonsaults ive ever seenShe landed on her feet. :doge
I saw the KOTR was having triple threats and shit? What the fuck is going on with it? How can they fuck up a basic ass tournament?
Is Rowan's new gimmick finding other bald guys with long beards and attacking them?
As soon as the brackets were announced, I said Corbin was going to win
And honestly... since he's come back from Extreme Rules, he's put on some pretty good matches. I also hate him as a heel and don't have a visceral "xpac heat" reaction where I just want him to go away. I think part of it is that he's wrestling in a tank top instead of a fucking Chili's waiter's outfit.
Anyway, I'm good with it, whatever. At least that match sort of makes sense from a narrative standpoint, unlike the Roman vs Rowan match that no one wants other than a senile 74 year old Republican that increasingly treats his promotion like his own personal action figure collection.
:money
I've seen it said elsewhere that Corbin's current ring wear looks like he is in gimmick transition so him going from tank man to King Baron Von Corbin would make sense. Gable's looked really good and I'd be psyched on him winning but the King rub usually goes to heels and thus congrats to Mr. Applebee's.
A backstage incident with former WWE star Big Cass marred last night’s WrestlePro farewell for owner Pat Buck, who was officially wrestling his last match for the promotion after signing on with World Wrestling Entertaining as a Producer.
PWInsider.com has confirmed with multiple sources that were present that Cass, who was booked as an unadvertised surprise to appear in a battle royal, was acting “aggressive and erratic” backstage over the course of the evening, leading to several incidents and finally, his expulsion from the Rahway Rec Center in Rahway, NJ.
At one point, Cass confronted AEW star Joey Janela in a threatening manner, looking for a physical confrontation, apparently stemming from Janela’s run-in several months back with Enzo Amore at a Blink 182 concert in New Jersey. One source believed Cass slapped Janela, but we were not able to confirm that. The irony over the situation, we are told, is that Cass and Janela had been in the same locker room the night before for Northeast Wrestling and there had been zero issues at all.
Are they not even pretending the brand split is a thing right now
How is the Miz supposed to be a baby face?
how was the AJ match?
how was the AJ match?
Hasn't happened yet!
Well, looks like the mid-card belt is irrelevant again. Thanks, WWE.
how was the AJ match?
Hasn't happened yet!
Never mind-The more things change, the more they stay the same...
LMAO, it was on the KICKOFF SHOW!? :lol
Missed that.
is the 24/7 title required to be defended on this show? :thinking
Guess not, AussieBadAss83.
Guess not, AussieBadAss83.
He deleted the tweet!
Did WWE bring up Street Profits to just ramble in their promos instead of wrestle?
Robert Roode, who has been a Main Event exclusive for most of the past 9 months, got a clean pinfall victory over the Universal Champion on PPV? :leon
ALL HAIL KING CORBIN OF THE KNIGHTS OF NUGENIX!
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Rusev is Maria's baby daddy? KANE IS BACK AND A CHAMPION? King Corbin? What the fuck am I reading here
On Wrestling Observer Live, Bryan Alvarez claimed he heard Vince McMahon was shown a NFL draft broadcast recently and the upcoming WWE draft will have more “pomp and circumstance” as a result. This could be why WWE announced NBC and Fox stars will be announcing picks on Oct. 11 & 14.
Doesn't look like anything to me
Did Miz/Shane feud ever have an actual ending?
Sami Zayn is now Nakamura's manager? Lmao. Why is Nakamura wearing body suits that shows off his cleavage? How long has he been IC champ?
What happened with Samoa Joe with the Roman Reigns stuff?
rip velveteen dream's reign :'( :gloomy
network got rekt?
e: nvm back. pete dunne time.
Imperium is there? Imperium vs Era for War Games might be a real thing? :leon
They haven't had a single TV show and they're already talking about action figures, video games, and 3 hours :dead
https://twitter.com/NikoExxtra/status/1175845943763243009
https://mobile.twitter.com/LaceyEvansWWE/status/1175466342843113472
:lol
As an extra incentive for younger wrestling aficionados who have developed an allergic reaction to traditional advertising, Winter says Fox “may look at reducing inventory loads” during the “SmackDown” broadcasts, with an eye toward cutting the amount of spots by somewhere “in the 10-to-20-percent range.” And while the double-box commercial format has become a staple of Fox’s NFL and Major League Baseball broadcasts, Winter says that particular innovation isn’t likely to find its way into “SmackDown.”https://adage.com/article/media/fox-wwe-land-progressive-presenting-sponsor-friday-night-smackdown/2200021
NXT UK moving to Thursday next week. Now only Tuesdays are safe from wrasslin
Former Impact Wrestling Champion John Hennigan has signed a deal to return to World Wrestling Entertainment, PWInsider.com has confirmed.https://www.pwinsider.com/ViewArticle.php?id=129885
Hennigan, 39 years old, had a long run with WWE after winning the third season of their Tough Enough reality series, performing for the promotion through 2011 as John Morrison. During his first run with the company, he held the WWE Intercontinental Championship, the WWE version of the ECW title and had several WWE Tag Team title reigns with Joey Mercury.
Small update on the Punk situation from Dave today on Observer Radio. He mentions that the impression he was given is that Punk’s tryout went well and that it is likely he’ll get an offer to work on the WWE Backstage show.::)
Dave mentions that it would be FOX hiring him and not WWE, although many he has talked to speculate Punk would like to get a “Lesnar or Goldberg” type deal to come back and wrestle. He also says that he doesn’t think FOX would hire Punk if WWE was against it.
Final note, he says that after the ESPN interview a few months ago where Punk criticized AEW for mentioning him, AEW people told Dave they’d “never work with him”. Dave notes that the full story of what happened makes that stance understandable, but did not go into detail on what the full story is.
This is mesmerizing; Asuka goes camping on her birthday.Asuka is hilarious, she's obviously playing up the kawaii waifu persona for hits but that video was great and yeah, whatsup with that backyard.
Asuka, apparently, has a gravel pit for a backyard. I don't know what it is about these videos, but I can't stop watching. At one point, Asuka is eating corn and I am riveted.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XnRYy6aI1kg
the "never work with him" bit is hilarious
"If he ever wanted to be part of this and had the passion to come back to wrestling, that door is always open. No ego, no situation would ever prevent us from having him come in because the fans have never given up on Punk. Ever.”
new raw song is goofy as always, but it's good to see all the pyro again
new set is kinda weird but i'm into it
Bork showed up which means "time til a Lawler 'WHAT exclamation'" is about 5min :lol
and now brock just murdered dominic in the ring so maybe the kid shoulda been a guerrero after all
i give it 2 months before they ditch this commentary team.
take a drink everytime they say "season premiere of Raw"
Is Rusev a face or heel now?
Says Double or Nothing is "the most commercially and critically successful wrestling pay-per-view" of the year. Cites doing over 110,000 buys at the price point they set, for their first ever show, while not having any TV to build it up. Happy with how well All Out did, despite the challenges of losing Jon Moxley to a MRSA infection 10 days before.are we pretending wrestlemania doesn't exist?
Designed to be more sports-based, but that doesn't mean they will lack drama (just like traditional sports aren't devoid of drama). Stories will stem from "wrestling in the ring," "personal issues," and "grudges" - with less focus on the "preposterous" and "ridiculous."can you really say this when you have a man pretending to be a dinosaur who wrestles with children on the roster as well as whatever orange cassidy is?
I will hit a flying clothesline on anyone I see wearing a bit of the bubbly t shirt in publictry the judas effect instead ;)
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TRENDING NUMBER ONE ON TWITTER
Are they? :thinking
[18:58:23] Mucho_Miedo: MAMMA MIA HANGMAN PAGE IS READY TO SEND PAC TO THE OLD TOWN ROAD
Riho is the first AEW womens' champ.
The big hyped-up main event has turned into John Moxley and Kenny Omega brawling out of the ring.
The big hyped-up main event has turned into John Moxley and Kenny Omega brawling out of the ring.
Somehow the match wasn't DQed.
The big hyped-up main event has turned into John Moxley and Kenny Omega brawling out of the ring.
Somehow the match wasn't DQed.
What? :lol
:confused
Yikes at Trump supporter Jack Swagger being your big fucking surprise signing to end your first show. Trash tier personality drain with no charisma.
That was a fuckin gimmick ya fuckin mark :lol
I’m a conservative. I voted for Donald Trump and back in 2016 everybody was talking about, “Oh my God, here’s another TV character trying to run for the presidency.” They didn’t really take him seriously. He made some outrageous claims like, “Make America Great Again” and build this wall and stuff like that. I was somewhat on the fence then but two years later going into his third year, I am so happy about the progress that he has made and I really don’t understand why so much of the media and everybody wants to portray him as such a negative president when it’s unprecedented what he’s done.:trumps
That was OK I guess. I bet NXT destroyed this.
AEW is a flop. Jack fucking Swagger is their big surprise for their debut episode. :dead 50 year old, fat, drunk Chris Jericho is their biggest star. :dead Cody Rhodes had over a half hour of screen time :dead The first fucking main event had a run in :dead the first show ends in a cluster fuck with 10 guys in the ring :dead
:camby
Seriously...look at Jake Hager's face at the end. What is up with that blank expression? :lol
https://twitter.com/AEWonTNT/status/1179578826461859840
The series premiere of All Elite Wrestling’s (AEW) “Dynamite” on TNT came out on top against WWE’s NXT on USA Network in the Wednesday night Nielsen Live+Same Day ratings.
“Dynamite” averaged a 0.68 rating in adults 18-49 and 1.4 million viewers over two hours, compared to a 0.32 rating and 891,000 viewers for NXT. This week also marked the first time that NXT has aired its full two-hour show on USA. NXT has previously aired exclusively on the streaming platform WWE Network, but the first hour began airing on USA beginning Sept. 18 with the second hour remaining on WWE Network until last night.
Both shows ranked among the top 10 shows on cable Wednesday night in the adults 18-49 demographic. For further comparison, this week’s episode of WWE’s flagship show “Monday Night Raw” averaged a 0.89 rating and 2.57 million viewers over three hours in Live+Same Day.
Not suprised. I mean, NXT seems cool, but the scale of NXT and what AEW are trying to achieve are different. I don't think the WWE thought things though.
Which is why NXT is going to be traveling really soon. :doge
On WWE releasing a statement congratulating the AEW debut::badass
“Because they’re embarrassed. I know how they work. And the fact is, I haven’t seen the actual rating but I’m assuming they know how what it is, and I think we probably kicked their ass. They started this. Everything that they’ve done has been a reactionary move to us. We’re not in a war with anybody besides ourselves. I don’t care if you put...you resurrect John and George and it’s the reunion of the Beatles at the Super Bowl or whatever. All that matters is our show. You can put anything up against us, and we can’t compete with that. We can compete with what we’re doing.”
On the war with NXT
“They kinda started this war, and the very first night they got destroyed. Big deal, it’s our first debut, great. But they have to come back and say you know, ‘It’s a marathon and not a one-night sprint.’ Who’s ever said it’s a one-night sprint? It’s not a war for us. Now, we’re placed in one and we’re gonna kick ass because we’re gonna do what we do very, very well. There’s a little bit of an arrogance toward us that’s now gone. I was very excited to get that sh*t going. All that talk, its like hockey, against someone yapping against you. When you score 10 goals, and someone is talking sh*t, you say 'look at the scoreboard, it's 8-0'..that shuts people up in their place and then they get mad and then they get desperate. I'm not saying anyone is desperate, I'm not saying anything at all. We put on a great show and got a great number apparently and if some people are excited, as most people are, that's great and if others are angry at us, then we're sorry."
AEW stomped NXT in the ratings, which is unfortunate because NXT stomped AEW in the quality dept.NXT put on a mini Takeover basically, they can't match that level every week can they? Honestly I don't think NXT was shoved onto TV on Wednesdays to beat AEW so much as siphon off some people ratings wise. :money
What was Raw's rating this week? Did AEW even come to it?Raw had a 0.9 in 18-49 (shares aren't really comparable on different days but w/e) and 2.57 mil viewers on Monday, and that's with NFL beating them.
The only thing I'm gonna say in defense of that first AEW TV show is that having a lot of number one contender Cody and champ Jericho makes sense in a build up to their match. That's about it- it was still too much time spent on a handful of people.
Rock has been doing this "Finally The Rock has come back....Home" thing since 2005 :dead
It wasn't funny, but what is funny is that actually probably will stick with him and it has to be a rib from Vince directly
Firefly funhouse needs to go.
Agreed. It fucking sucks and crowd was dead silent for it.
Shane McMahon is fired, which frees him up for a NXT run :jeb
Wow, the crowd was dead silent for Roman Reigns entrance.
:neogaf
Velasquez? Bye Kofi, back to the midcard with ye.
Two days ago I got an email from WWE saying 205 Live would be on Fridays after Smackdown, but NXT is on instead. Did they cancel it within two days? :lol
As a wrestling fan, it was awesome to see 3 months of build, 6 months of championship reign for Kofi pissed away in seconds so we can have a part timer wrestle someone that's had like 1 or 2 matches probably at Survivor Series.
:money
Uht-oh, it looks like things are getting complicated in terms of the ongoing negotiations to bring former UFC Heavyweight Champion and new AAA Lucha Libre performer Cain Velasquez into the WWE Universe.
In a follow-up to a previous report about WWE engaging in negotiations with Cain Velasquez, at one point a deal was close enough that WWE started steering storylines towards a possible match against Brock Lesnar.
Hell in a Cell is tomorrow, there's, uh, four matches announced. ???
https://twitter.com/luchalibreaaa/status/1180667876145090567kenny olivier! :lol
Is Omega trying some meta commentary where he shows more interest in wrestling for everywhere but AEW?
Speaking of:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YSQ-Obh0O98
Impact President Ed Nordholm recently revealed details on what led to Kevin Sullivan’s departure from the company. Nordholm claimed that they found out that Sullivan was working with AEW on Double or Nothing while still employed with Impact. Sullivan was told that working for a rival company was inappropriate and a significant conflict of interest, so he ended up telling Impact that he would discontinue working for AEW. However, Impact later learned that Sullivan was still doing work for AEW and so Impact began taking steps to replace him, however, Sullivan ended up sort of beating them to the punch by giving his notice last month.
The following excerpt is an interview by Nordholm with PWInsider.com:Quote“It is interesting that the reports I have seen characterize Kevin as an independent contractor that left because he had not received a contract offer; Kevin was a full-time, senior executive with Anthem with all of the fiduciary responsibilities that come with that.”
“When we learned that Kevin had participated in Double or Nothing, we addressed with him the inappropriateness of moonlighting for a competitive business while a senior executive with Anthem. He assured us at the time that he would discontinue that work. When we learned that he was still providing these services to AEW we started organizing ourselves to replace him at an appropriate time. Dave Sahadi was brought back a couple of months ago to begin working with us at our television tapings. With his involvement in All Out it was apparent that he would leave – either as his own choice or ours – but he did not actually advise us of his decision until Sunday September 22nd. Anthem has/had no relationship with his company. Kevin Sullivan was an executive employed by Anthem Wrestling who attempted to recruit his department to join a competitor while a full time employee and executive with Impact Wrestling."
I feel kinda bad for D'amore and Cyrus at Impact... sorta feel like if they'd had billionaire money to throw around they could book/run a better promotion than the Elite wankers.
But if we're giving people shit for pillaging RoH, let's not leave Trips out considering that all the men's champions in NXT are basically Ring of Dishonor
Hell in a Cell is tomorrow, there's, uh, four matches announced. ???
Don't worry, they'll still figure out a way to put the Cruiserweight title match on the pre-show. :doge
Ali vs. Orton has been added after a segment on the pre-show. It feels like this is all being put together at the last minute.
Weird that the one match up that Smackdown hyped up is the 2nd match of the night, and the one they literally made today (Ali vs Orton) is after this Reigns/Bryan vs Rowan/Harper match.
Edit: And they already wasted the Women's match that was already in Hell in a Cell, the other women's match is a regular match as far as we know. (Baley vs Flair). There's no way to go but down, the match sequence seems out of order.
Nikki Cross and Alexa Bliss don't seem good wrestlers. Asuka and Kairi are carrying this match. Hope they put the belt on Asuka and Kairi because it might mean better women tag matches in general.
Edit: There we go!
What are they chanting? ???
What are they chanting? ???
Holy shit and AEW.
Now please come back.
What are they chanting? ???
Holy shit and AEW.
Now please come back.
No, after that. Something else.
Seriously though, how do you get a DQ ending in a hell in a cell match, when no DQ is the rules.
Man, Bray Wyatt is so over.
#cancelwwenetwork is trending. I bet the people who canceled will have their subs renewed by the time Crown Jewel airs. :doge
Clearly sensing that a line was about to be crossed, the referee tried to stop Rollins from using the hammer. But The Beastslayer did it anyway, bringing the tool straight down on the whole pile, causing the ref to wave off the match while a crew of medics tended to Wyatt. Rollins, who was clearly on the verge of madness, made the mistake of straddling his fallen foe and quickly found himself ensnared in the Mandible Claw as Wyatt rose up from his back and continued his attack.:hmm
Rollins was helpless to respond as Wyatt took him outside the ring, exposing the arena floor by tearing up the mat. It became clear that the Universal Championship was the last thing on Wyatt’s mind. Wyatt smashed Rollins face-first into the arena floor with Sister Abigail and applied the Mandible Claw once again. This time, the writhing Rollins was spared only by the signature shrieks that precede Wyatt’s exit. Hell in a Cell did not end with “The Fiend” Bray Wyatt as Universal Champion. But clearly, he’d gotten what he came for all the same.
Also Kane/Mankind had a HIAC match in 1998 on Raw that was a no contest.
I can't believe they tried mood lighting again :laugh
It's been terrible since 1997 Kane days, terrible with Sin Cara, and I'm pretty sure they did it with someone else that I can't remember at the moment
Maybe now the WWE will get the Kabuki Warriors some team theme music instead of a poorly done mix of both wrestlers' scores.
It's like they decided to just scrap the Mike/Maria story and move it to Rusev/Lana instead.
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It's like they decided to just scrap the Mike/Maria story and move it to Rusev/Lana instead.
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I was listening to Konnan and Disco Inferno's podcast, and they basically said that the Rusev angle is basically to shit on him as much as possible before he gets released. I can believe that.
It's like they decided to just scrap the Mike/Maria story and move it to Rusev/Lana instead.
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I was listening to Konnan and Disco Inferno's podcast, and they basically said that the Rusev angle is basically to shit on him as much as possible before he gets released. I can believe that.
But then why would they have Lana be involved in this if they wanted to release him? Why still make him look strong by taking out both Corbin and Orton? ???
That was the ending? :lol
She's a gamer and it looks like she rose up :jeanlucyou just described my penis : ;)
Too much wrasslin going on but I've heard good things about the NWA show so I'll check it out tomorrow or this weekend. Tonight I'll stick with NXT. Missed a lot by going back and forth last week and AEW was weak anyway.
Jon Moxley vs. Shawn Spears
#1 Contender Match -- Jimmy Havoc vs. Darby Allin
Adam "Hangman" Page & Dustin Rhodes vs. Chris Jericho & Sammy Guevara
AEW Tag Title Tournament First Round -- The Young Bucks vs. Private Party
Isaiah Swerve Scott vs Roderick Strongfor those interested in what NXT has announced for tonight
NXT Cruiserweight Title Match -- Lio Rush vs Drew Gulak
KUSHIDA vs WALTER
I wonder how long it takes for the aew crowd to turn on Cody Rhodes seeing as he’s going be indy triple h, but without the excuse of being good at one point.
"I can't not ask this- who the fuck said that [CM Punk's] ass is too big?"
"Hunter [is the one that said his ass is too big]. It was all about the workout s--t, man and how he looked in an 8 x 10 or whatever," J.R. began. "He's not going to look the same because he's not the same, and if all you're going to do is put out androids all looking alike what the hell do you got? You got no uniqueness, you've got no individuality - so, that was the whole deal.
"I think the consensus was that this guy might not be in great shape because he looks soft. And I'm saying that his softness as far as his ass is concerned - his ass issue was a non-issue in my view," J.R. continued. "It was basically based on the fact that the perception was he had an over-sized, soft ass. Silly as it sounds, it's so absurd that it doesn't make any sense, and I swear to God, folks, I'm not making this up. But that was the whole deal and then finally, through hell and high water, he plowed through this bulls--t and became the star that he is. He had a Hall of Fame level career there, there's no doubt about that. Will he ever be in the Hall of Fame? Eh, I wouldn't bet on that one. And I'm not so sure that he would accept it if it was offered."
J.R. believes that the treatment Punk received while working for WWE is a prime example of bullying, however, that's just "show business" to Ross.
"It's show business, it's God d--n show business and it's unfair to anybody that's being persecuted in that regard," J.R. stated. "It's not fair, it's being like a bully because you can, you get the stroke. It's not good. I just don't like singling people out in that regard, especially somebody that could go and Punk could go."
Ross explained that backstage politics were regularly affecting Punk's career and the direction it ultimately took in WWE. He noted how impressive it is that Punk went on to have a run worthy of a spot in the Hall of Fame despite the adversity he was constantly faced with behind the scenes.
"Any time we talk about CM Punk's career in WWE or wherever it may be, you've got to talk about politics because that's what he was the victim of," J.R. said. "I'm not going to say you put all of it on WWE because generally, when you have that sort of conflict, personal conflict, it takes two to tango to some degree. But I all in all, Punk was an overt victim of unfortunate, ill-timed politics in his run in WWE. And despite of all that, in spite of all those push-backs, look at the run he had. That shows you just how good he really was."
They all do that bullshit. What was the fake 'Mania attendance record? 90,000 in the Silverdome or something?101k in AT&T Stadium now. I went to that show, not what I'd call their best :lol
:hulk
What the fuck Bayley is hot now
https://twitter.com/ReneusMeister/status/1182727731659902977
Additional WWE Draft picks
Apollo Crews — SmackDown
Drew Gulak — SmackDown
EC3 — Raw
Eric Young — Raw
Heath Slater — SmackDown
Sin Cara — Raw
Tamina — SmackDown
The B-Team — SmackDown
I think you mean "Drew Gulak sentenced to lifetime of obscurity and jobbing on SD"
More likely:this is where we find out if wwe values mike more than the 10 guy. iirc they released him the second he asked
They'll take him off TV entirely and then add the time he was in rehab to his contract and make him sit out his entire contract just to spite him and not allow AEW or ROH to sign him. Even though lol, who the fuck cares about Mike Bennett. Also likely they'll continue to embarrass him via his wife unless she decides to sit out as well. And then she'll probably have all the time on her contract missed via maternity leave added to her contract as well.
the four horsefaces :rofl
I can not believe how terrible 2K20 is looking :lol :lol :lol
humberto and andrade on raw...so is cain gonna be the only mexican on smackdown? >:(
Plus there will be a major story breaking in Japan this week unless something falls through and we will have a special show on that.Meltz teasing. Wonder what it is? NXT Japan?
With two concurrent giant dad segments going all they need is to give one guy an incel gimmick and they'd have all the topical subject matter covered.
With two concurrent giant dad segments going all they need is to give one guy an incel gimmick and they'd have all the topical subject matter covered.
Rollins setting the Funhouse on fire
:rage
Who is the heel here again? :doge
That ending would have kind of made sense if the feud continued...but it's over, no? ???
Feels like SD women's division got decimated, especially with Sasha out hurt. Figured Liv would stay on SD since rumors are she's supposed to be getting repackaged and a big push.
I can not believe how terrible 2K20 is looking :lol :lol :lol
For whatever it’s worth, the latest Wrestling Observer Newsletter notes that Vince McMahon was laughing about the reaction from fans to the Hell in a Cell main event.
Backstage reactions to the Fox Sports/NFL draft segments on SmackDown weren’t good, sources told WrestlingNews.co. One wrestler allegedly told the site, “[WWE] can’t help themselves. It always makes me cringe when you see them trying so hard to show everyone how mainstream they are.”
The initial belief is WWE will not honor Mike Kanellis’ latest release request.
CM Punk’s Pro Wrestling Tees store removed all but one of the shirts which were selling there, adding to speculation he’ll soon be announced as part of Fox’s WWE studio show team.
Alexa Bliss and Nikki Cross have been moved over to SmackDown for “considerations and draft picks down the line.”
This is really weird, and if anyone has any insight into this, or can put it into context, it would be awesome. Asuka goes to the hair salon and is eating throughout the video as her hair is being cut and dyed, etc.getting your hair cut, bleached, and dyed multiple colors can an hours long process and has a lot of downtime where you just sit around waiting for the bleach/dye to set. i've seen salons that have coffee shops inside/next door or serve wine for people to have to pass the time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJm-3a3rGgo
Is this a real thing? I mean, is it some kind of weird salon/diner fusion? Do people commonly eat when they get their hair cut? Is this a Japanese thing?
I am perplexed by this. And I am wondering why the video does not conclude with Asuka spitting green mist on the stylist.
This is really weird, and if anyone has any insight into this, or can put it into context, it would be awesome. Asuka goes to the hair salon and is eating throughout the video as her hair is being cut and dyed, etc.getting your hair cut, bleached, and dyed multiple colors can an hours long process and has a lot of downtime where you just sit around waiting for the bleach/dye to set. i've seen salons that have coffee shops inside/next door or serve wine for people to have to pass the time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJm-3a3rGgo
Is this a real thing? I mean, is it some kind of weird salon/diner fusion? Do people commonly eat when they get their hair cut? Is this a Japanese thing?
I am perplexed by this. And I am wondering why the video does not conclude with Asuka spitting green mist on the stylist.
even bleaching/toning my hair at home has 40min-1hr where i just sit around and wait for stuff to happen.
I tend to agree with TVC that NXT is reliably good and AEW is still up in the air and could turn into a trainwreck at any moment so there's more excitement to watch it head to head than NXT for a while at least. The first year or two of TNA in retrospect was must see shit because you never knew what the fuck would happen and some weeks you'd have like 45 minutes devoted to X-Division matches or old school blood baths and other weeks you'd have AJ Styles chasing Disco Inferno with a chainsaw and calling him a taco.
i made that chanko asuka showed on her last vid. was pretty goddamn good :mouf
Scuttlebutt now is that Bischoff never had any creative influence whatsoever, that he didn't learn most of the talent names, and would just leave on TV days and not answer his phone when anyone had questions :lol
He was hired to be a fall guy for when Fox got mad at ratings drop and shitty shows and that happened sooner than expected :dead
Fox was already mad because they wanted Paul Heyman :dead
Man, Mr. Kennedy with his jiggly gut bouncing over his trunks :lol
Trevor Murdoch looking absolutely disgusting even by his standards
NWA running a PPV in December :lol
AEW women's division needs a lot of work.
I wonder if Double Talk Dave will say anything about AEW not delivering on TWO promoted matches for this show, in addition to effectively doing that on the debut main event as well.
Jurassic Express has their TV debut without Luchasaurus. They shoulda bumped their debut.
don't remember seeing kayden carter before but damn she got ass :-[
Lol AEW booking:
Britt Baker gets a title shot after winning...tag matches, not even against the champ
LAX don't ask for a match at the PPV with the tag tournament winners, but against the Young Bucks, a team eliminated in the first round and who now have a 50/50 record
Lucha Bros taking out SCU, who isn't even in their bracket...wouldn't it make more sense to have them take out the dinosaur dude in the team they were actually facing?
There's still actually no explanation at why Kenny and Mox hate each other so much
Main event sponsored by Hot Topic
Scuttlebutt now is that Bischoff never had any creative influence whatsoever, that he didn't learn most of the talent names, and would just leave on TV days and not answer his phone when anyone had questions :lol
He was hired to be a fall guy for when Fox got mad at ratings drop and shitty shows and that happened sooner than expected :dead
Fox was already mad because they wanted Paul Heyman :dead
I don't believe the part about him just being there to be the fall guy, but it would be amazing if true! :lol
I gotta say though, after the draft...it's like Fox may have wanted the A show...but they got the B show.
Rumors for the Day:
A report from Sports Illustrated says Eric Bischoff was fired by Vince McMahon because of SmackDown’s big second week ratings drop, to send a message to stockholders how committed he is to the success of the show on Fox.
SI also notes Bischoff’s four month run was “marked by his failure to assimilate into the corporate structure of the company”.
WWE attempted to buy Pro Wrestling NOAH as part of their push to launch NXT Japan, according to Dave Meltzer of Wrestling Observer Radio. The deal did not happen.
While it was speculation and not reporting, Meltzer also recently said on Observer Radio he thinks Seth Rollins burning down Firefly Fun House was a way to write the concept off as Fox doesn’t want it as part of SmackDown.
One more from Observer Radio... R-Truth & Carmella were split in the Draft because USA came up with the 24/7 title and wanted to keep the champ on Raw, but WWE doesn’t like separating real life couples and Corey Graves is on SmackDown.
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This borders on Miz tier, made specially worse because Jericho worked in Mexico and with lucha dudes for years and years, plus Darby had his hands tied behind his back and weighs about 140 pounds. Jericho is making no effort to be a proper base and protect Darby on those moves.
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This borders on Miz tier, made specially worse because Jericho worked in Mexico and with lucha dudes for years and years, plus Darby had his hands tied behind his back and weighs about 140 pounds. Jericho is making no effort to be a proper base and protect Darby on those moves.
I see Jericho has gone subtle with his benoit tribute tights :-*
I’d love to go on a full day bender with him to hear his ‘Chris was framed’ theories he’s been wise enough to not spit out in public so far.
https://twitter.com/WWEAsuka/status/1184629659234795520
:asuka :asuka :asuka :asuka :asuka
https://twitter.com/WWEAsuka/status/1184629659234795520
:asuka :asuka :asuka :asuka :asuka
I told mom I want to go to cabbage camp this summer.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D2KZZKsWnEc
I don't know why a Japanese woman using the Asian equivalent of a Ronco product is so fascinating.
Looks like there's a clear winner in the Great Wrasslin War of 2019...
https://www.cagesideseats.com/impact-wrestling/2019/10/20/20924279/joey-ryan-signs-with-impact-wrestling-bound-for-glroy
Eric Bischoff really did wait over two hours into his latest podcast to address his departure from WWE.
On this week’s episode of 83 Weeks, Bischoff attempted to explain why he was let go by WWE last week. Hired by WWE in late June, Bischoff was fired as Executive Director of SmackDown amidst reports of missteps with FOX as well as questions about his work habits.
When discussing his shorter than expected stint with WWE, Bischoff sounded more disappointed than surprised by the move from Vince McMahon.
“My feelings right now are, number one, I’m really grateful for the opportunity to work in WWE. It didn’t work out the way I wanted it to work out. It clearly didn’t work out the way Vince McMahon wanted it to work out. But that happens. I’m not taking any of it personally. Professionally, I’m taking a hard look at it and thinking it through. More than anything, I’m grateful for the opportunity. Part of the reason is I am, I had a chance to work with a great team of people. The writing staff for SmackDown in particular, as well as a lot of other writers who were on Raw. They are very, very talented and unbelievably hard working and dedicated group of people. Just to have the opportunity to work with people like that, was worth this experiment.”
Eric continued:
“I didn’t come here thinking I was going to be in WWE for 5 or 10 years. I looked at it as a relatively short term opportunity, meaning 2-3 years. I didn’t think it would be quite this short term, but sometimes that happens. WWE is a great company with a very defined culture and process. I didn’t necessarily fit into it. That’s just the way it is. I’m not sad, disappointed, any of those things. Just looking forward to the next opportunity, whenever and wherever that may be.”
Cracking back on what he called the dirt sheets, Bischoff wanted to make it very clear that he and current SmackDown Executive Director Bruce Prichard are very close friends. In fact Bischoff would go on to say that without Prichard he probably would not have gotten the opportunity with WWE in the first place.
Bischoff would also announce his travel plans for the remainder of the year. The former WWE employee plans to stay in Stamford, Connecticut until the end of November before heading down to Florida where he plans to spend a month with family during the Holidays. Bischoff will then make his way back to his home in Wyoming.
When asked by his podcast co-host Conard Thompson if he would do it all over again, Bischoff quickly answered he had no regrets and he would do it all over again in a heartbeat. Bischoff added he would have liked to have met Vince McMahon’s expectations and also would have liked to have had a longer run with WWE this time around.
:dead at RVD's heel turn apparently mad because people kept doing his moves in the match and then he took his ponytail out and looked worse than HBK and the fan reaction was :neogaf
this Humberto dude looks like such a "who the fuck" i thought he was a random jobber for Rollins to style on
Best Dynamite show so far:
Lucha Bros vs Private Party was LIT. Fenix is the most spectacular performer in da biz and has been for 2-3 years. Dude does the craziest shit and no one has made me :gladbron more often and as regularly in years. Private Party went from complete unknowns to a made team over the past 3 weeks so that's a success. Shame they completely ran out of gas towards the end.
Dark Order fucking sucks, at least the sloppy fat guy, their gimmick/look doesn't fit at all with everything else. SCU/Lucha Bros should be rad. However, the Young Bucks again getting a higher billed match on the show and a PPV match/feud over the tag tournament stuff despite being eliminated in the first round is fucking lame. The titles already feel secondary and there aren't even champions crowned. JR going on and on on commentary about how the Bucks are the best team in the world even though they were ELIMINATED IN THE FIRST ROUND OF THE TAG TOURNAMENT AND YET ARE STILL BOOKED LATER IN THE SHOW AND HAVE A PPV MATCH SET just makes the actual tag tournament seem like a sham. They didn't even mention the tag tournament and championship match again after SCU won their match. Didn't promote it later in the show, didn't say "hey folks tune in next week for" at the end of the show. Nothing.
This stuff with Jericho/Cody...Cody can not go a show or BTE or Youtube exclusive without mentioning WWE. It's getting kind of sad. And Jericho after winning the title is a completely different character than the Jericho they were establishing up to that point. The Bubblay got twitter memes so now that's his character. The Inner Circle is still forced as fuck and all they had to do was say Jericho sought out the best young talent to surround himself with, but instead they went with Jericho saying these 4 guys are his closest friends in the biz despite having zero association with any of them besides Jack Swagger beating him almost 10 years ago. Jericho has basically reverted to 2003-2005 Jericho that was stale as fuck and led to him taking 2-3 years off to refresh. There's also no reason why Cody/Jericho is being portrayed like such a serious personal feud, but they also haven't established what the Omega/Mox issue is either and that's been going on for 5 months now.
Speaking of Omega, he's got some of his juice back, and it seems like they've dropped the "Has Kenny lost his smile" thing.
I love how genuinely confused to the point of starting to get angry at Orange Cassidy JR was. I also love how Tony marks out for everything, including Excalibur's commentary, live on the air. He was so bitter and burned out the last 2 years of WCW and avoided the business for most of the past 20 years, so to have him back on TNT and loving his job and wrestling is great to hear.
Thought the main event would finally have a clean finished after 3 weeks in a row of run ins and cheap finishes....only for them to do no finish at all :lol WCW truly back: 4 weeks of shows, 4 weeks of wonky main event finishes.
They're doing a terrible job of actually building up next week's show, just expecting you to tune in because of course you're going to watch. Compare this to NXT which sets up and promotes 3-4matches per show for the next show, with 2-3 for the week after, and another 2 or 3 set up for after that. You could argue that AEW is focusing on the PPV and NXT can focus solely on TV, but in 4 weeks of promoting the PPV AEW has only announced 3 matches, 2 of which were announced before they even started TV, and one of which is a tag match with a team eliminated from the first round of the tag tournament and another team not even booked in the tournament. The only guys getting real focus are, of course, The Elite and their opponents. For the PPV, they'll have one week to set up and promote a tag title match, the woman who lost to the woman's champ last week was on the show while the woman's champion was not (also holy shit Britt Baker has never had a good match in her life, has she?) and nothing has been set up for Riho at the PPV. And actual undercard stuff? Maybe Sammy Guevarra vs MJF? Swagger vs Page or Goldust? Are there any feuds or angles going on that don't involve members of The Elite?
AEW actually continued after TNT went off the air. Pac and Moxley continued to fight, with Pac laying out Moxley and tried to find something to hurt Moxley with. He found a chair, wraps it around Moxley and about to do some shit. For some reason Omega comes down and stops it, takes the chair off Moxley, and chases off Pac. Both Omega and Moxley just kinda of stare at each other. By this point, Pac is in the crowd trying to get away, and then Adam Page shows up and he's finds Pac in the crowd and beats him up a little bit too, but Pac still gets away. Page cuts a promo that basically boils down that Page and Pac have a match at Full Gear.
Why they didn't do this on TNT, I have no idea. You only saw this if you were watching the international feed with no commercials.
It's the best current wrestling show
Why they hell didn't they put him on Smackdown to begin with since A. He's always been associated with Smackdown and B. The Cain/Brock angle is on Smackdown and Rey is a key part of it.
Do they still do her entrance with the camera going straight into her asshole?
https://twitter.com/MarkRedbeliever/status/1187929778260762624
:doge
The third professional MMA bout of former WWE Superstar turned AEW wrestler Jake Hager ended in controversy on Saturday night at Bellator 321.
During the Bellator MMA event held at the Mohegan Sun Casino in Uncasville, Connecticut on Saturday, October 25th, Hager, formerly known as Jack Swagger, saw his third MMA bout end in a "No Contest" ruling.
Hager's bout with MMA heavyweight fighter Anthony Garrett in the opener on the Bellator 321 televised card on Saturday, the fight was stopped less than two minutes after the action got underway due to Hager landing a hard groin shot on his opponent, the second for him in under 30 seconds.
The referee of the fight, veteran MMA official Dan Miragliotta ruled Hager's low blows unintentional and thus, because the fight wasn't able to proceed, it was ruled as a "No Contest."
Hager represented All Elite Wrestling (AEW) at the Bellator 321 event, as he had an AEW banner in his corner and three of the fellow members of Chris Jericho's faction, The Inner Circle -- Sammy Guevara, Santana and Ortiz -- were sitting front row for the fight.
(https://media.giphy.com/media/1eukJHWk3XmrTW2PJz/giphy.gif)NXT is very good but it really just feels like "better WWE" to me right now. AEW/Impact are just copycat WWE and Raw/SD are average to bad WWE. Power is the only thing that feels unique and that's got me into it.
(I mean it's pretty good, but not as good as NXT)
Sami Callihan took the TNA title off of Brian Cage at the Impact tapings and Tessa Blanchard challenged him :rejoiceSo...why not just give her the X Division title at your biggest PPV and have her use Option C? Or have Sami win at the PPV? Strange.
Tessa gonna be the first woman TNA Heavyweight Champion :rejoice
The new shirt currently for sale on WWE’s custom site now resembles the Space Jam logo.:dead
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https://www.prowrestlingsheet.com/wwe-statement-jordan-myles-shirt/
and on the aew side, cody is bragging about firing the pyro guy for scaring his dog at all out even though anyone with sense wouldn't have brought their dog out at a wrestling showWell that's dumb, mistakes happen, and yeah on him for bringing doggo out in such a noisy environment.
The main event of this week's Raw is the giant dading angle. :lol
https://twitter.com/tde_wrestling/status/1189013728433508352
Kabuki Warriors finally both looking more "heel" and "kabuki"
Spitting green mist at and ditching Paige
:lawd :asuka
world series dominated the ratings with 11mil+ viewers so pretty much everything else got rekt. i'm always surprised by baseball doing so well cause it is perhaps the most boring sport of all time.
there's another WS game tonight so expect down ratings for both AEW and NXT
reading the raw recap, seems like most of the same but asuka/kairi new look is pretty dope. might dig around for the aj/humberto match cause that sounds like it'd be an actual legit match.
seems Mansoor only has a job so he can work these saudi shows 1-2x a year :lol
My tweets yesterday were completely disrespectful and were unprofessional.
I have offend a ton of people and used anger to fuel me. With that being said.. I’d like to take this time to state an apologize for not giving a shit about what others think of me. The anger I have inside of me has been built up for years now. Call me what you want, but you’ll never EVER be able to call me fake. I’ve been lied too, used, and often mistreated by others who I viewed as associates. I’ve tipped toe around, kept quiet, even took some Ls when necessary. Emotionally charged up due to the shirt which triggered past emotions. I’m never going to be sorry for being me nor will I take back my words. I’m the damn professional wrestler in the WORLD & universe today. My ribs are touching and I’m tired of waiting. Time to snatch plates from those that have been eating far too long and always gets seconds while guys like myself have to eat crumbs from the floor like an unwanted child. For 4 years .. I gave my all to a promotion only to find out that you could only reach so high just as long as you didn’t surpass certain “people”.. I never begged for anything, I never kissed no ass, nor did rub elbows with the right ppl to get ahead. I HUSTTLED, WORKED HARD. I didn’t call Hunter everyday to get booked in New Japan (s/o to NJPW) I earned it. I’ve always wanted to be “The Guy” and of no one will allow me to be in that spot.. I shall blaze my own trail to that spot rather it be by the approval of others or not. Today i shall continue to go the distance. Today I shall Lee moving forward. Today I shall rise up from my past ashes like a Dark Phoenix and promote change in this industry. Remember these words I AM THE BEST IN THE WORLD! AND NO MAN OR WOMAN WILL STOP ME FROM BEING HONEST. GO THE DISTANCE... #MylesAhead
#ForTheCulture
I never begged for anything, I never kissed no ass, nor did rub elbows with the right ppl to get ahead.dude is an entertainer, not an accountant. networking and "rubbing elbows" is part of the game
...did Dio really make an "all according to keikaku" reference???
:ufup
https://www.foxsports.com/wwe/story/wwe-presents-the-first-ever-women-s-match-in-saudi-arabia-102919
Weird. Why wouldn't the first women's match in SA include: Bayley, Sasha, Charlotte, or Becky? Shit even Asuka/Kairi/Alexa?
https://www.foxsports.com/wwe/story/wwe-presents-the-first-ever-women-s-match-in-saudi-arabia-102919
Weird. Why wouldn't the first women's match in SA include: Bayley, Sasha, Charlotte, or Becky? Shit even Asuka/Kairi/Alexa?
Maybe they didn't want to go.
Correct me if I'm wrong here: Didn't Lacey/Nattie go from feuding for 2 months to randomly being a team and now they're having a historic match in Saudi Arabia for no reason?
Notably, three members of WWE's women's roster has also made their way overseas. Natalya, Lana and Lacey Evans are all in Saudi Arabia but there is zero expectation or suggestions that any of them will be able to compete on the PPV. It's possible WWE may use them for promotional appearances instead. Last year, WWE had Natalya and Alexa Bliss on the tour and were seemingly led on by the Saudi government in terms of possibly having the two wrestle; however, on the day of the event, the idea was completely nixed.
https://twitter.com/WWE/status/1189457986533507074QuoteNotably, three members of WWE's women's roster has also made their way overseas. Natalya, Lana and Lacey Evans are all in Saudi Arabia but there is zero expectation or suggestions that any of them will be able to compete on the PPV. It's possible WWE may use them for promotional appearances instead. Last year, WWE had Natalya and Alexa Bliss on the tour and were seemingly led on by the Saudi government in terms of possibly having the two wrestle; however, on the day of the event, the idea was completely nixed.
:confused
Rick and Morty nightwut
What the fuck is this promo? Tony and Cody in the back of a limo? It's been going on for 5 minutes. Why didn't they edit this?
Did you never watch WCW? This was done multiple times for Flair and Dusty, more so Flair as ironically Cody is more of a Flair mark than a Dusty mark.
Well, she's right about Paige.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WhELgKgByh0
Enjoyed the turn to villainy, but maybe the tag champs could win one without blinding their opponents.
https://twitter.com/GIFSkull/status/1189714785010515968:cornette was right. literal cosplay wrestlers :lol
They're fucking.
The idea of Adam Cole trying to stand up to Brock Lesnar is :lol :lol :lolthe true fantasy booking is that cole hangs back while brock and fiend beat the shit out of each other and then has UE distract fiend while brock is struggling to get up. then cole gets off the last shot on brock and pins him for the W.
Was anything from Crown Jewel worth watching?
LOL at the Cain/Brock match being short as hell and Brock going over. Why am I supposed to care about Cain now?
praying for an nxt invasion of smackdown tonight as a "break emergency glass" solution, or dbryan vs sami at the least.
instead we'll probably get paul e on miztv while brock bounces in the ring for 2 hours
As always with WWE, the show must go on. Live at 8/7 CT on FOX, SmackDown will feature Superstars, such as Daniel Bryan, The Miz, Carmella, Nikki Cross, Dana Brooke — plus, additional surprises.
They just promoted a steel cage match between Seth Rollins and Bray Waytt on Raw for Monday.
Man I kinda wanna check out that SD. :-[ They just put a stupid truncated version up on hulu later, right?
Man I kinda wanna check out that SD. :-[ They just put a stupid truncated version up on hulu later, right?
Coool, not up yet tho. :mafMan I kinda wanna check out that SD. :-[ They just put a stupid truncated version up on hulu later, right?
Yupyup!
https://www.hulu.com/series/wwe-friday-night-smackdown-e2bf2de2-ab7f-49cc-9c70-4092641983d2
For Immediate Release
WWE® AND THE SAUDI GENERAL ENTERTAINMENT AUTHORITY EXPAND EVENT PARTNERSHIP
STAMFORD, CONN. and RIYADH, SAUDI ARABIA, November 4, 2019 – Following the historic Crown Jewel event in Riyadh, WWE (NYSE: WWE) and the Saudi General Entertainment Authority (GEA) have expanded their live event partnership through 2027 to include a second annual large-scale event. WWE and GEA also continue to work towards the completion of a media agreement in the MENA region.
This long-term partnership demonstrates WWE and GEA's commitment to bring sports entertainment to the region and supports Saudi Arabia's Vision 2030.
Mike Johnson reports that Adam Cole, Roderick Strong, Matt Riddle, and Damian Priest are “in New York City for tonight’s Monday Night Raw.”
They're gonna do Rey vs Brock at Survivor Series instead of involving Brock in brand war bullshit? :lol The world needed Brock vs Fiend vs Adam Cole for the lulz
They're ignoring heel/face alignments and just making it brand versus brand. Fucking ROWAN is out there to save the OC and Rollins :lol
Are we in a bad reenactment of Hamlet or something?
What happened to the steel cage match between Rollins and The Fiend? :lol
What happened to the steel cage match between Rollins and The Fiend? :lol
Was this announced at Smackdown last week? Don't even remember lol.
WWE has announced that 205 Live will be taking place at Full Sail University this Friday night. WWE is teasing that the 205 Live wrestlers and NXT wrestlers will all be under the same roof.
No word on what prompted the venue change but it could be because it’s easier tape in Orlando while the main roster flies out of the country for the European tour. There is a double taping of Raw and SmackDown on Friday so that is the most likely reason. Either way, this will get the 205 Live wrestlers in front of a hot crowd and the show should come across better on TV.
205 Live will air at 10 pm eastern on the WWE Network, immediately after Friday Night SmackDown.
The brands are in open war, but Heyman needs his giant dading angle to go another week.
so Bayley is definitely winning that champions match right
so Bayley is definitely winning that champions match right
Reposting here for at-hand community fapsturbation porpoises.
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It’s just perfect. WWF Magazine really seems like it was peak journalism. Did he do this on tv?
Reposting here for at-hand community fapsturbation porpoises.
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It’s just perfect. WWF Magazine really seems like it was peak journalism. Did he do this on tv?
Reposting here for at-hand community fapsturbation porpoises.
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It’s just perfect. WWF Magazine really seems like it was peak journalism. Did he do this on tv?
https://twitter.com/hunktears/status/1191426101634953227
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZAmgF5VNPA
I missed that...did they just squash the Polo Boys? :lol
Is that another DQ ending for Raw?
Is that another DQ ending for Raw?
It's all about the WAR now, who cares about silly matches?!
We have HHH as the general here, directing his "NXT Army," and nobody representing the Raw and/or SD sides of this, lol.
I know this is a take as fresh as a rotten apple but jimmy havoc has the worst look I’ve ever seen in the biz :hhh
Taynara does this "LOOK AT MY ASS DROP" thing on the ring apron before she gets in during her entrance.
The announcer's face was like
:hhh
I gotta say NXT seems a lot better actually live than watching it on demand the next day :yeshrug
Didn't Garza have pants on before the commercial break? :lolhttps://twitter.com/WWENXT/status/1192265141393346560
I'm all in on Swerve
Man....it feels rude as hell to put Dakota Kai's partner in War Games, then have Dakota not allowed in because she's a loser, have her partner team with someone else on Smackdown, then lose again to Shayna for what seems like the 5th time in 2 years, and then she's replaced entirely by Mia Yim who is....definitely not as good as her and has barely been involved in the angle so far.
Maybe she'll get pissed and turn and be the last member of team Shayna :brain
Also it appears WALTER (and the rest of Imperium and by extension NXT UK) invaded Smackdown and Raw tapings and Seth Rollins gets the shit chopped out of him while the crowd boos the shit out of him :lol
The Corbin and Lana segments sound absolutely miserable
Now it's time for the New Day to get the tag belts back, then get beat down by Imperium.
They should have just bought the LAX name from TNA/Anthem, I'm pretty sure they made a big deal at letting talents take names and gimmicks with them. I mean LAX was a thing many years before them but fuck it, they're still dressing the same, the gimmick is still the same, the video and music is as close as they could get to LAX....just pay the few extra sheckles and get the real name.
Otherwise they're PeePees.
JR going on a rant about wrestling reffing. :lol
What a goofy ass entrance. :lol Why is Shawn Spears gimmick literally a chair now?
WTF was that Awesome Kong/Brandi hair shit from the pre-show? :lol
Cody looking around wondering when the hell his actual theme music is going to kick in. :lol
WHY IS THERE A TOWEL!? :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol
Well, damn- dude in the crowd threw some shit all over him.
I think Omega’s hammy aspects are starting to win me over
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I’ve not seen the show but idk it seems like they’re starting to run out of omg it isn’t wwe good will now.
I’ve not seen the show but idk it seems like they’re starting to run out of omg it isn’t wwe good will now.
The big ish for me is that there just doesn’t seem to be many people on the roster. If there are more, they aren’t on TV or the shows. Feels like the same 10 or so people every card, even more than WWE to me.
SIN CARA CONTRACT RELEASE
Last night, after praying and considering it a lot, thinking about my children and their future, I made one of the most difficult but sensible decisions that I had to make in my professional wrestling career; I have asked for my WWE release.
Since I was a child, all I wanted to do was fight and all my life I have made decisions and sacrifices to put myself in a position to fulfill that dream. They are 20 long years of experience and total ethrega to my sport that I love and respect. I have traveled the world, met incredible people and fought for the incredible fans of the WWE Universe.
I am so grateful for the opportunity they gave me, however, I realized that I am stuck in a place where I am not valued as an athlete or talent. I have worked hard and honestly for many years to polish my trade, I have been loyal, respectful, a team player, support and I have patiently waited for the opportunity to show the world everything I can do. Unfortunately, after all these years, that opportunity never came or I feel that it will ever come while I remain where I am.
The best years of my professional wrestling career are coming and I think the best is yet to come! I am a healthy, disciplined man, respectful of my profession and its environment, of my companions and mainly of the public to whom I have never failed. This is not the end, on the contrary, this is the beginning of the next chapter and I am excited for what the future holds! (Isaiah 43: 18-19)
I want to thank WWE for this incredible chapter, I will always be grateful. Most importantly, thanks to the WWE Universe for its unwavering support and to all my public that in all parts of the world has supported me and showed its affection, the only way I can correspond is to continue providing myself with all the dedication, passion and professionalism that I have Always shown. Thanks from the bottom of my heart.
Even though it hasn’t been announced yet by WWE, The Colons are reportedly done with the company and it is the reason why they weren’t on the recent WWE house show in San Juan. The Observer Newsletter notes that WWE has offered to bring Carlito back but he is currently undecided on that.
“What MJF should have done is thrown in his scarf,” said Bully Ray. “Because the scarf could have been symbolic of the towel. You could have seen him get on the apron, look at the referee, and throw in the scarf. The referee could have looked at the scarf as if that was the throwing in the towel. That would have been very symbolic.”
Bully Ray understands what they were trying to do, though, but believes it could have been a legendary moment. “After he turned on Cody, what I would have done if I was MJF was take his scarf and I would have blotted the face of Cody Rhodes. I would have gotten all of Cody’s blood on that scarf and that’s the scarf I would wear from now until the end of the day. That scarf could have been his Shroud of Turin, the shroud that Jesus’ blood was on, that could have represented with that scarf. To AEW fans, Cody walks on water, he is to AEW what Dusty was to the NWA … that is the moment in time that would have lived forever.”
I thought my love for Asuka would never end, would defy time and space and the IIconics.
But she ate insects.
I love you, Asuka, now and forever. We are done.
(Please don't tell me how you ate insects and they taste great and are nutritious. You are stupid, and I hate you in life.)
Sounding pretty racist right now, bub
Excalibur and Jimmy Havoc got into a fight at Tony Schiavone's birthday party
Excalibur put that spooky nerd to sleep :dead
Then Jimmy got mad and threw his phone at Excalibur but missed and shattered it on a wall
:dead
https://twitter.com/WWEonFOX/status/1194480602583633925
::)
So, AEW tonight, what all is announced? I know of:according to their twitter, moxley is gonna cut a promo
* Hangman v PAC rematch that nobody wants of an originally unwanted match that just happened
* “Records count” tag team championship match between who gives a fuck and Chris Jericho and that cool young dude I wouldn’t mind disciplining
The first one is legit making me yawn thinking about it. The second one is just a stupid idea but I can’t play down Jericho’s ability to amuse me very much.
They need to push Vanessa borne more :mynicca
Jordan Myles recently released a video lashing out at WWE, apparently quitting the company in the process.
“As of today, I’d like to officially announce that I quit f*cking WWE," Myles said in the video. "I am no longer employed. I refused to work for racists. I f*cking quit, f*ck them."
Myles continued, "I hate that f*cking company and everything they f*cking stand for. All they ever did was hold our people back. I do this sh*t for the culture. I don’t need anyone’s f*cking permission to do what I want to do. Screw Jordan Myles, don’t ever call me by that slave name. Call me ACH and don’t forget the ‘Super’, b*tch. I quit, f*ck you!"
Dijak is not who I expected to be the 4th member of Team Ciampa at all, kind of random although I guess he did have that thing with Strong for a bit. Really figured it was going to be a returning Dream or Gargano.
1. Him quitting doesn't mean shit if WWE doesn't release him, and you can count on one hand how many people they've actually let go without a fight in the past 4-5 years. The only guys to really get out were Rey and Punk and that was because they had the money for lawyers to get them out.
2. I think he's going to have a hard time getting booked anywhere significant for a while
I love that know one knows who the fuck this UK broad is even though she's the champion. Ain't no one watching NXT UK.
AEW should use this week's show as the template going forward.Are they just doing four PPVs a year?
Shorter matches that lead to something, remembering that they can actually let people cut promos (some for the better, some not so hot) to set up angles and matches/feuds, a vignette to progress a storyline/character arc, backstage segment or two, actually setting up and announcing matches for the next show instead of waiting until the weekend and tweeting some shit out. I'm not at all sold on needing to do immediate rematches when half of the roster has gone 3-4 weeks (or more) without being on TV time, but Page/PAC was how you should do such a match: Faster paced for TV, twisting all the spots and beats from the previous match, decisive winner and now you can move on. Scorpio Sky pinning Jericho was an interesting move, since there's not really anyone else lined up for Jericho right now a mini feud between PPVs could do a lot for Scorp.
I will say they're already definitely overdoing the wild brawl shit and lights going out shit. They've done both every week and did the lights out thing at least 3 times this week.
:lol at JR calling Full Gear "Fully Loaded" multiple times and then calling Jack Swagger and having to walk it back.
The latest edition of the Wrestling Observer Newsletter reports that WWE reportedly tried to help ACH before his recent issues went public. ACH said he was quitting the company because they were “racist” and the “old guard” was holding younger talent back.https://411mania.com/wrestling/wwe-reportedly-tried-to-help-ach-before-issues-went-public/
At the time WWE tried to help him, he reportedly disappeared from Orlando. He ended up deleting his Twitter account after his public meltdown, but he has since restored it. WWE has yet to comment at all on the story, outside of a brief statement about the allegedly racist shirt that started everything. At the time, the shirt resembled blackface and ACH was very upset over it, although WWE pulled the design.
The Observer also notes that he has been in contact with a promotion about appearing, but there’s no word on whether or not he’s still under contract with WWE.
Finally, while ACH called “Jordan Myles” his slave name, it should be noted that he is the one who picked it out.
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Damn the Miz having a 2K20 glitch on his suit 😂
https://twitter.com/TonyKhan/status/1196575691191521282
What happens when you win this brand war?
I’ve been in some dark places, but I’ve never wondered about the finer details of Jeff Jarrett’s career.
Do they have paige on that shit every week? :camby
He needs to work on his upper body if he’s gonna get back in the ring :hulk
Kanyon cutters :rejoice :rejoice :rejoice
:money
iirc, fox is. i'm sure he'd be happy to collect a second paycheck for a brock schedule
well there it is
https://twitter.com/nwa/status/1197167033974218759
Effective immediately: Jim Cornette has resigned from the National Wrestling Alliance. As an announcer on the November 19th edition of NWA Power, Jim made remarks during a singles match between Nick Aldis and Trevor Murdoch that were both offensive and do not meet the high standards of decency and good faith of the National Wrestling Alliance.
To ensure that such an error can never happen again, we've established new procedures of review for all NWA programming going forward.
We sincerely regret our failure in this regard.
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WHAT IS TIM STORM'S FUTURE?
And since they didn't announce the 4th member of Team Ciampa, being that Punk just returned and the show is in Chicago, they're going to have to pull a real surprise to have the crowd not get pissed it isn't Punk.
And since they didn't announce the 4th member of Team Ciampa, being that Punk just returned and the show is in Chicago, they're going to have to pull a real surprise to have the crowd not get pissed it isn't Punk.i thought it was dijak, riddle, keith lee, and ciampa?
Also :lol at having Billy Gunn destroy most of the mid card and be head and shoulders bigger than everyone in the ring. MJF came up to his traps :lol
New ic title belt :o
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I started Takeover about 10 minutes late and started from the beginning....why the hell is Dakota Kai in this after all?
I started Takeover about 10 minutes late and started from the beginning....why the hell is Dakota Kai in this after all?
PWG presents WAR GAMES
You know, Sin is actually a pretty solid show. It was probably the best WCW PPV since Spring Stampede 1999, which isn't saying much since WCW PPVs had been atrocious since then, especially all of 2000. There's a real sense of enthusiasm from the talent and announcers, and most everything at least has logical booking and storytelling even if the execution isn't flawless.
The only thing that really doesn't make sense and is real WCW fuckery is the entire main event scene, where Flair is CEO and keeps booking Steiner in disadvantagous matches and Jeff Jarrett is Scott's buddy but keeps getting booked into forced situations to turn on him or otherwise cause conflict, and then there's a mystery man that keeps attacking Sid so Flair brings a mystery man himself who also beats up Sid and then it turns out the whole thing was a month(s) long ruse and Flair/Steiner were in cahoots the whole time.
The thing that really stands out is how terribly WCW handled Sid's injury. Because he needed to be pinned, they just let him hang out in the ring with his leg dangling, the "match" continued, Scott Steiner at one point actually steps on his broken leg, and it's a good 5-6 minutes before a trainer is in the ring checking on him. WWE would have immediately ended the match by either just stopping it or having Steiner quickly pin him and do the mystery surprise after.
One thing that stood out was the crowd seemed unusually hot for dying days WCW, and my suspicions were confirmed where there's a brief part in the main event where the fake crowd noise completely cuts out and the audience is as silent as you'd expect :dead
Helms/Chavo was a stand out match, Jung Dragons vs Karagias/Knoble was pretty good, and DDP/Nash vs Palumbo/O'Haire was a really well thought out/laid out match with Nash working about as hard as you're going to see him after 1997.
https://twitter.com/EverythingAEW/status/1198255488774934529
https://twitter.com/EverythingAEW/status/1198278296250834946
UPDATE: On his post-show media conference call, Triple H addressed Baker being shown on the feed. He said the person in the truck who used the shot didn’t know she worked for a rival promotion. Once she’d been shown however, they had to mention it, which is why Mauro said her name. Triple H said he’d never want to put her in a position to get heat for appearing on a WWE show.
Was there a more comically bad performer in wrestling than Lex Luger in 1999-2001? It's like he completely forgot how to do anything in his one job he'd been at for about 15 years. His actual wrestling is at an all time worst where he's clearly not even attempting to put any effort into anything, his promos are at an all time worst where he's constantly stumbling over lines and stuttering, just being on camera he's constantly looking directly into the camera and at directors during segments, always missing his cues. It's really fascinating.
He was very solid in 1987-1991ish, at least very carryable and willing to work. HE was also a bad promo, and his WWF run was bad, but I did quite enjoy the Sting/Lex dynamic in the early Nitro days, and I'm still not sure why he was so fucking over in 1997 besides the torture rack was cool and he had a rad entrance theme. Anything after the Wolfpac, he's just so awful, but it turned a corner in late 1999 where he started to become entertainingly bad and by the time 2001 comes around he's fascinating because I don't think I've ever seen a guy so blatantly fuck off like that with no worries of repercussions or professional pride.
That match was a cluster fuck as expected, weird to have NXT use cheap heel tactics to steal a win and then act like heels afterwards too.
While I know the WWE are bad at getting faces over I do wonder if the now smarky crowd that will always boo whichever babyface wwe chooses regardless if they suck or not is also an issue.
Smarky crowds are more likely to cheer heels I figure.
Jesus everyone is so gigantic in these old WCW clips.
Lex, Buff, Steiner, Kronik, Goldberg, The NBTs, Mike Awesome, Rey Jr., Konnan, are all ridiculously juiced up. Lance Storm swears he never did steroids but that seems hard to believe to me.
Is Mauro not on the show because Corey Grave subtweeted him? :lol
UPDATE: Mauro Ranallo did not appear on Sunday night’s Survivor Series after he deleted his Twitter account, possibly over the tweets from Graves. Michael Cole addressed Ranallo’s absence from the show, saying that Ranallo was so passionate at NXT Takeover: WarGames that he “blew his voice out.”
ORIGINAL: Mauro Ranallo has deleted his Twitter account following posts to the platform made by Corey Graves that may have been critical of his commentary work at NXT Takeover: WarGames. Ranallo called last night’s NXT Takeover show alongside Nigel McGuinness and Beth Phoenix, and Graves posted to his Twitter account suggesting that Pheonix and McGuinness were either not getting a chance to talk or weren’t getting their deserved praise. He also suggested that there were “far too many” references to Chicago rap, as you can see below.
Ranallo has been open about his living witb bipolar disorder, which was the focus of Showtime’s Bipolar Rock N’ Roller documentary. Frank Shamrock, who is Ranallo’s manager and friend, replied to Graves with a retort about the Smackdown announcer’s tweets:
More like hopefully Rey cripples Brock and we don't have to see Brock until Wrestlemania
Whose fucking idea was it to put Ricochet in a body suit :wtf
Also lmao at smark central Chicago cheering for Roman and booing Rollins.
I haven’t been paying much attention: is Rey intentionally dressed like Doink or is this just another unfortunate costume decision?
I haven’t been paying much attention: is Rey intentionally dressed like Doink or is this just another unfortunate costume decision?
Joker costume.
I haven’t been paying much attention: is Rey intentionally dressed like Doink or is this just another unfortunate costume decision?
Joker costume.
I don’t think you can do a Joker look in wrestling without it reading as Doink.
Holy shit, I’ve only been idly paying attention and I just realized this random hillbilly he’s talking to is the fucking Undertaker. I don’t think I’ve seen him out of character before. He sounds like just another teenage sheep rapist.
Holy shit, I’ve only been idly paying attention and I just realized this random hillbilly he’s talking to is the fucking Undertaker. I don’t think I’ve seen him out of character before. He sounds like just another teenage sheep rapist.
:confused
What are you watching?
On the latest Wrestling Observer Radio, Dave Meltzer discussed the Mauro Ranallo situation and how Ranallo deactivated his Twitter and ended up not working the Survivor Series PPV despite being scheduled for it after a tweet directed to him by peer Corey Graves. Meltzer noted that Ranallo and his friend/manager Frank Shamrock were very upset but he didn’t quit and things are “fine” between Ranallo and WWE and that he is expected to be there on Wednesday in his regular spot at the NXT commentary booth. Meltzer went on to say that WWE wasn’t happy with Graves though he wasn’t taken off of Survivor Series while the company is sympathetic towards Ranallo and don't want him to quit or leave.
Graves for his part must have heard the report by Meltzer and had this to say:
Didn't the year START with the McMahons coming out and saying the show sucked and blaming it all on Corbin?
Good to see fresh, young talent like Rey Mysterio winning the US championship.Vince really knows how to get these young up and comers over
That was the best opening segment on Raw in a long time
That was a really good episode of Raw!
https://twitter.com/adampacitti/status/1199224564959584256
“Vince is done with Humberto Carrillo for the time being. He’s giving him the ‘Cedric Alexander.’ Like you’re still gonna see him on TV. I’m sure he’s gonna win here and there, but like it’s exactly like Cedric Alexander. He got a few weeks, Vince thought he wasn’t getting over, so he’s just — he’s done.”
i like mauro even if he's a bit much at times, and i actually kinda agree with that graves tweet. but if any critique is gonna make the dude shut down his entire life for weeks at a time, i dunno what can be done about that other than just not looking at social media.
I feel for him, I think we share some traits in this emotional regard, but the difference between Mauro and me is that I‘m not dumb enough to think a notoriously mean industry is going to suck in its gut to make me feel welcome. I’d also never be dumb enough to force a baker that hates me to bake me a gay wedding cake. It’s just a stupid idea, and you’re asking for it.
I don't know how Vince can even stomach doing his job. He's been doing this shit since the early 1970s, never taking any time off, always at TV, always producing, always working at home. How could he possibly have any passion or creativity left?
Back from the break, Daniel Bryan's music hits and the former World Champion makes his way down to the ring. Bryan gets on the mic and he talks about Wyatt offering him a Universal Title rematch if he "lets him in."
....
Wyatt asks if Bryan remembers how he helped change Wyatt, because The Fiend remembers. Wyatt says he almost forgot - he promised a "new face" tonight, and he's a man of his word. The lights in the building turn red and The Fiend pops out from the ring and tries to pull Bryan down under the ring. Bryan fights back, but The Fiend is able to lock him in the mandible claw.
The Fiend pulls Bryan down into the hole in the ring that he popped out of. The Fiend pulls his hands up and it looks like he has chunks of Bryan's hair in his hands. The Fiend pulls up more hair from the hole in the ring and throws it on the canvas. We hear laughing over the arena speakers, and we cut to black.
Wrestling fans are easy marks for anything spooky :moneyAm wrestling fan, can confirm
Have your main event champion have a gimmick he can only do in pre-tapes, brehsthe all time best promos are pre-tapes brother :wag
lol imagine if :cornette said that shit
He'd probably call her a Jap in 2019 tbh
i thought the bad photoshop stuff would stop when cena left but it's been making a comeback lately
lol imagine if :cornette said that shit
He'd probably call her a Jap in 2019 tbh
Please, Corny’s more creative than that. He’d break out nip.
Maybe I’m just blanking because I haven’t really watched WWE TV lately, but what do you mean by bad photoshop stuff exactly?
Maybe I’m just blanking because I haven’t really watched WWE TV lately, but what do you mean by bad photoshop stuff exactly?
I guess it's more comedy bits using the screen. Used to be slideshows of photoshoped pics to be "embarassing" but now it's more "goofy" edited video things. The most recent example is a couple weeks ago when Corbin played Roman's entrance titantron with a puppy barking over it.
So this is why WWE doesn't air house shows. #starrcade :doge
So this is why WWE doesn't air house shows. #starrcade :doge
Anything happen? Or just crap?
The PS4 game is on sale for $15.
The PS4 game is on sale for $15.
Can you download mods for the PS4 version?
Hasn't his being signed been known for months now?
Full release schedule is as follows:
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Wednesday, Dec. 4 – Raw Women’s Champion Becky Lynch vs. SmackDown Women’s Champion Bayley vs. NXT Women’s Champion Shayna Baszler
Dark Order molested that fat guy.the terror! They got hands all over his face :lol
AEW is running multiple cults, I think.The Brandi kong bit was such a buzzkill after the great match beforehand.
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The dirtsheets said that Vince loves him some Keith Lee. If Lee could cut a promo, he'd make McMahon cream in his pants.
He's REALLY awkward at them. A dude with so much physical charisma but then he speaks and comes off like such a fuckin' goober.
balor/ciampa/lee next week, winner faces cole for the title the week after. nxt is the only show that can book a decent main event :lol
In case you were wondering about the ACH saga:
He did indeed get his release and returned to the indies, debuting in MLW a few nights ago.
He also has quit wrestling all together
WWE has come to terms on the releases of Jonathan Huber (Luke Harper) and Sin Cara. WWE wishes them all the best in their future endeavorshttps://www.wwe.com/article/luke-harper-sin-cara-released
Former WWE Superstar Big Cass (CaZXL) took to Twitter today and made a threat to AEW star Joey Janela.(https://i.imgur.com/aavEzmO.jpg?1)
Cass wrote, "Hey @janelababy. Say one more word about me and your life will end. Real talk.#HowYouDoin"
The tweet was deleted just over an hour after it was posted.
There's no word yet on what brought the comments on, but Cass and Janela had an incident back in September that could have ended with Cass going to jail, if it weren't for Janela declining to press charges.
You can see a screenshot of the deleted tweet from Cass below:
Looks like Humbuto is getting a push again.:rejoice
Looks like Humbuto is getting a push again.:rejoice
what in the fuck is this weekend update ass shit :lol
Kevin Owens is shown backstage walking around with his metal pipe, and he finds the truck that the AOP arrived in. Owens starts smashing up the truck and yells at AOP to come at him. Owens opens the back door of the van, and it looks like there's someone sitting in there with their back turned to him. Suddenly the AOP attack Owens from behind and beat him down. They slam Owens' head into the van door. The AOP says something to the guy in the van, and he turns around with a hood over his head. He lifts up the head to reveal that it is Seth Rollins. Seth gets out of the van with an evil look on his face and tells Owens this is what it's come to. Seth gives Owens a curb stomp on the arena floor, then Seth walks off with the AOP.
Back from the break, we see a replay of what just happened, and then Seth Rollins comes out to the stage with a mic. He says "What do you want from me?" Seth says he used to get along with the WWE Universe, but something went wrong and they don't like him anymore, and he can't figure out why. Seth says he doesn't take nights off, he fights through injuries, he puts it all on the line in the ring for each and every one of you. Seth say he sticks his neck out for the fans in the ring and in the media, and in return he gets spit on and disrespected. Rollins said last week he told everyone he had nothing to do with the AOP, and it was the truth, but that wasn't good enough. Since the fans jumped on the Owens bandwagon, and they want to push him, it's time for him to push back. He says the fans and Owens drove him to stand side by side with two men who understand - The AOP. The AOP come out to the ring and stand next to Rollins, then they all leave together.
2 nights ago, I couldn't sleep all night because I was perpetually thinking about Rhea Ripley for hours and hours on end. I ended up finally dozing off for 3 hours, during which she had a cameo in the dream I had.https://www.reddit.com/r/SquaredCircle/comments/e8vohb/i_think_im_becoming_obsessed_with_rhea_ripley_to/
Last night, my sleep was choppy. I had back-to-back dreams that were all directly about her. I'd literally go to sleep, dream about Rhea, wake up, repeat. I must've done this 4-5 times over the course of the night.
For context, here's something I posted 2 nights ago when this first became an issue:
I've been hugging and kissing my pillow all night pretending it's Rhea Ripley. I just love her broad shoulders, strong arms and chiseled back. I wanna hop on her back and hold on while she gives me a piggy back ride.
God, have you ever seen a sexier specimen of a woman? Muscular in all the right ways, dominant, beautiful face; I just can't help but imagine her forcefully pinning me down and kissing me deeply, sending feelings of pure bliss throughout my body while all I can think is YES! YES! YES! - RHEA! RHEA! RHEA! RHEA!
I want her to take me. Deflower me. Make me all hers. I'll be her little spoon while she holds me from behind and I nuzzle back against her, the happiest I've been in my life, as we both drift off to sleep <3
WE THE (TRUMP) PEOPLEHe just sat down at the commentary booth with JR uh oh :lol
https://twitter.com/MrBrandonStroud/status/1204824049613975552
The Revival made their entrance. Dash Wilder fell on his ass when they entered the arena. If it was a work, he fooled people because it looked like a real fall.https://twitter.com/tde_wrestling/status/1205663429824012288
NWA also doing a January PPV. No idea why they think they can do a monthly PPV schedule.
I wish I knew what NWA's business model is because there's no way they're not doing everything at a loss.
Barely been paying attention to this PPV for the most part- I guess Ziggler is now Corbin's crony what with Bobby Roode suspended and all?
wouldve been better if dbry was the Fiend
wouldve been better if dbry was the Fiend
Yeah. It's such a dumb story regardless. Miz's motivations make no sense when Dbry is treating him like shit the whole time.
how long is this giant dad thing gonna go :lol
Good show
Kairi seemed to suffer from some sort of injury.
Colon said he had been suspended for not turning up to a drug test. He explained he was working for his father’s company in Puerto Rico and suddenly received a call from WWE, who told him he had to travel to mainland USA for a random drug test. The former Shining Star told the company he was happy to be tested but was unwilling to pay for a flight to the mainland. He instead offered to go to a medical facility WWE chose for him in Puerto Rico. Colon then didn’t hear anything back from the company until he received a letter telling him he had been suspended.
Colon said: “I was not on the road, I was not scheduled for any event in the near future. I am in Puerto Rico when they call me suddenly, not to use me, but to travel to do a doping test. I was ready to do it, but I told them that I was in Puerto Rico and that I was willing to go to a place that they chose to test me without any problem, without any discomfort. I was not going to pay for a trip to just get tested for doping.
“Then I didn’t hear anything from the company about it and I thought they were going to call me when they found a place to do the test. Almost two months pass and I get the letter that I am suspended, according to them, because I refused to take the test. And that is not correct. They took it as I was out of the country, but I was available.
“I don’t want them to say that I failed to test positive because that is totally false and incorrect. They usually do their doping test at events. Someone appears there to collect the urine of fighters, employees, referees […] to do their evaluation once a month. I did not say anything positive. I was in Puerto Rico. I have to clarify it because my reputation is worth more than any cheque.”
:thinkingor-ange bry-an
https://mobile.twitter.com/iLikeJason_/status/1206505264859557888
https://twitter.com/luchablog/status/1206067513718644736
90 day non compete doesn't apply to Mexico I guess. :lol
Also using the Sin Cara name. :lol
The new name, which is now being reflected in all his social media accounts, is Cinta de Oro - a tribute to his idol and coach who passed away three years ago in 2016. The sons of the original Cinta de Oro have given their blessing to Sin Cara to carry forward the name as well as gifted him the last mask that their late father wore
Jimmy Fallon did a segment on the big screen where he introduced some of the WWE Superstars and gave a holiday message.
Kevin Owens came out for a promo. Before he even got started, Mojo Rawley interrupted. They have a No DQ match.
Kevin Owens b. Mojo Rawley in 7:00.
Owens won after a Stunner and a Pop-up Powerbomb through a table. Owens called Rawley a “little bitch” afterwards and called out Seth Rollins and AOP.
After a break, Rollins and AOP came out. Rollins offered Owens a handshake, but Owens attacked with a superkick. AOP beat Owens down and the heels stood tall.
Bobby Lashley (w/ Lana) defeated Cedric Alexander in 11:00.
Lashley won with a spear. Lana started talking a couple minutes in, and got in the ring, imploring Alexander to “show respect.” The Lashley/Lana wedding will be LIVE on 12/30.
Drew McIntyre defeated Zack Ryder (w/ Curt Hawkins) in 2:00.
Squash. McIntyre won with the Claymore Kick, and attacked Ryder with his old Future Shock DDT after the match, as well as another Claymore on Hawkins. McIntyre cut a genuinely funny promo afterward. He promised that 2020 belongs to him.
Becky Lynch cut a simple promo calling out Asuka. Asuka came out with Kairi Sane. She cut a rough promo in English and then a great one in Japanese. “Asuka Two-Belts” is her goal. Becky replied with “any time, any place” in Japanese.
Aleister Black defeated a local competitor in 0:15.
Squash. Black won with the Black Mass. Before Black could even get up the ramp...
Buddy Murphy defeated a local competitor in 0:15.
Squash. Murphy won with Murphy’s Law.
Black came back out, and they stared down. Black extended a handshake, but Murphy shoved him out of the way. Black then laid out Murphy with a Black Mass from behind. The two will have a TLC rematch next week (December 30).
Ricochet defeated Tony Nese in 2:00.
Ricochet won with the Recoil.
Charlotte Flair defeated Chelsea Green in 5:00.
Flair won with the Figure Eight.
The OC (AJ Styles, Luke Gallows, & Karl Anderson) defeatedRandy Orton & the Viking Raiders (Ivar & Erik) in 12:00.
Styles pinned Orton with the Phenomenal Forearm. They are now 1-1.
Erick Rowan defeated a local competitor in 1:00.
The jobber gave Rowan a candy cane to distract him while he went for Rowan’s cage. Rowan attacked on the outside and pinned the jobber after two claw chokeslams. Still no hint of what’s under Rowan’s canvas.
Rusev came out to a great reaction. Only Orton got a bigger reaction than him all night. He cut a promo on Bobby Lashley, saying he’s thrilled that Lashley’s marrying Lana because he can’t imagine a worse punishment. No Way Jose came out for their match with the conga line.
Rusev defeated No Way Jose in 0:30.
Rusev won with the Machka Kick, and they danced together afterwards.
Rey Mysterio (c) defeated Seth Rollins (w/ AOP) via disqualification in 8:00 to retain the WWE United States title.
Rey hit the 619 but AOP interfered during the splash attempt, causing the DQ.
Afterwards, the heels beat down Rey and cleared the announce table to put him through it. Samoa Joe, who had been doing commentary, stood up to them, ready for a fight. He’s officially turned babyface. AOP then attacked and overwhelmed Joe with the numbers advantage.
Seth then hit the stomp on Rey in the stage, and AOP put Joe through the announcer’s table with their combo powerbomb. Joe looked like he hit his head on the support portion of the table — really nasty.
The Christmas shows are always terrible. They really should do a best of show instead.
The Christmas shows are always terrible. They really should do a best of show instead.
At least the Raw crew gets off. Smackdown still gotta work. :doge
So uh....doesn't this really make the prophecy all bullshit, as Anakin DID NOT bring balance to the force. Not even one of his progeny did. If anything, Palpatine is the chosen one if we're going by the route Anakin took to be the chosen one.NXT sounds really weird this week
Who had "Rhea Ripley" as breakout NXT star of 2019 at the beginning of the year, and also stop lying
It’s weird you know like NXT is the opposite of what WWE is. Serious stories, not a lot of garbage filler. And that’s what AEW fans want AEW to be but I don’t know. I mean, they have all of their top guys getting beaten down by a bunch of masked geeks, 2 of which were just job guys. Then you have Tony trying to interview an alien. I mean, this is like Nitro. And not in a good way:lol
why does every lady indy wrestler have prison quality tats? it really took me out of the may yeezys when all the wrestlers had sub mma ink :hhh
Everyone thought AEW was going to be like New Japan but it turns out it is New Generation WWF?
Yeah probably. I doubt Kenny Omega would be wrestling on Main Event had he gone to WWE.
According to the Wrestling Observer Newsletter, current plans call for The Revival to become a comedy act, which has apparently led to some mixed feelings.
Ryback is currently teasing working with AEW in 2020, and there is a belief that will happen.
Caught up on AEW last night. Is anyone going to have the balls to tell Brandi she’s currently the worst part of the promotion and needs to not be on TV right now?Probably not, some people actually like what she's doing somehow. I think it sucks.
The former NXT Champion now begins his first reign as a United States Champion by defeating one of WWE’s most decorated Superstars. Andrade earned the title opportunity after claiming a brutal Gauntlet Match win besting Humberto Carrillo.
Catch the newly crowned U.S. Champion on Monday Night Raw at 8/7 C on the USA Network.
AEW has burned though all their good will extra quick, I didn’t think that even their commentators would be shitting on the product by this point in their life span :mynicca
If anyone remembers Lars Sullivan, after taking a leave of absence due to anxiety issues after his past online comments full of racism, homophobia, and sexual talk about Stephanie McMahon resurfaced, then being put on the IR due to surgeries, is back in the online news as a gay for pay video he was in before becoming a wrestler has come to light.
:crowdlaff
lmao, but is he truly the large sullivan? We can't tell from the few images in that story.
Rowan approaches Lana backstage and asks why he wasn't invited to her wedding. Rowan talks to his covered cage in his hand and says "we don't care anyway." Rowan screams then walks away, and Lana looks confused.
What the fuck is happening?
-- Last night's WWE Raw - anchored by the Lana/Bobby Lashley wedding angle - was up huge in overnight viewership numbers generating an average of 2.433 million viewers - compared to last week's near record low 1.835 million.
-- Raw was #4, #5 and #6 on the night in the 18-49 demographic among cable shows, while finishing 7th in total viewership. While there was no NFL competition for the first time in months, Raw did go up against a college football game that led the way with over 6 million viewers.
-- Hourly figures are below, showing a much lower degradation, which probably supports the notion that the Lana/Lashley wedding attracted viewers and did a good job keeping them through the 10-minute overrun.
* Hour 1 - 2.525 million
* Hour 2 - 2.464 million
* Hour 3 - 2.328 million
No idea. I didn't watch last week and don't know what they had planned this week. I think they've had minimal matches and mostly awards and recaps in the past few years but that was when it was an hour long an on the Network, not 2 hours on USA.
They're probably about to get turned into a comedy group and BERRIED
JOIN THE INNER CIRCLE. GET A FORD GT. :lol
JOIN THE INNER CIRCLE. GET A FORD GT. :lol
The Ford costs "millions of dollars" (wut) and "they all pitched in to buy it." So LE CHAMP can't afford it on his own? :doge
Do you think they think they're building anticipation for Swagger's first match instead people wondering what the fuck the point of hiring him at all is?
Speaking of big guys who haven't wrestled yet. When the hell is Wardlow getting into the ring?
pretty good smackdown tonight but wtf was that random john morrison appearance? :lol
Wrestle Kingdom 14 Night 1 viewing information
Date: Saturday, Jan. 4
Location: Tokyo Dome -- Tokyo, Japan
Start times: 5 p.m. JST | 3 a.m. ET (pre-show starts at 2 a.m.) | 2 a.m. CT | 12 a.m. PT
Watch live: FITE TV | Price: $49.99 (includes both nights and New Year's Dash)
Live stream: NJPWWorld.com (Subscription required; English broadcast available)
Wrestle Kingdom 14 Night 2 viewing information
Date: Sunday, Jan. 5
Location: Tokyo Dome -- Tokyo, Japan
Start times: 3 p.m. JST | 1 a.m. ET (pre-show starts at 12 a.m.) | 12 a.m. CT | 10 p.m. PT
Watch live: FITE TV | Price: $49.99 (includes both nights and New Year's Dash)
Live stream: NJPWWorld.com (Subscription required; English broadcast available)
According to the latest twitter goss: gabba gulaks brother (who’s an indie worker) has been done for at least having child porn, so don’t expect to see drew on tv any time in the near future
5 stars from Meltzer for this one he loves kids
Night 2 was definitely a much stronger show than Night 1.
:dead at how fucking terrible Jericho looked. So fat he has to buckle his weight belt off to the side because his gut is too big in the front to latch :dead Also his 30 year vet psychology of doing a lionsault immediately after 6 dragon screws of every variation.
Again the Naito story lost me 2 years ago so him "finally winning the big one" didn't do shit for me and :dead at his celebration getting interrupted and the biggest night of his professional life ending with him being helped out with his head down and no confetti celebration like Tana and Okada get. Certainly fitting with his booking arc. Didn't feel like a king making moment at all to me, would be shocked if he still has either title by the G1.
That jobber screaming at Rowan's cage :rofl
Need a clip of that video ASAP.
aight its time to wrap up this giant dad storyline. its not gonna get any better than last week.
That Riho finish is the worst AEW has been.
Oh good, it is a swerve.
:whew
I generally don’t criticize people’s marriages but Cody really needs to get his annulled if he wants to save his wrestling promotion.For real man. That shit sucks so fucking bad and it drags the life out of everything around it. Fucking ultra garbage
AEW has turned into the bullshit finish promotion,AEW is co-founded by Dusty's kid so if you think about it we're all a bit foolish to have ever expected otherwise. :teehee
So how much of a shit show was this weeks aew, I might give it a watch when ITV bother putting it on catch up ;)The middle section was a complete fucking shit show, particularly brandi and the DDP bit.
i said it before, power is the best currently running show
NWA Powerrr has the same issue everyone else does with a shitty women wrestling division.
A couple friends and I are going to the next powerrrrrrrr tapings on the 25th (I live in Atlanta) and god I hope Papa Pump is there, getting called fat by Scott Steiner is legit on my bucket list.NWA Powerrr has the same issue everyone else does with a shitty women wrestling division.
NXT would like a word with you.
HAWT TAKE: NWA powerrrrrrrrr is a better show and more competently run promotion than AEW
“The Villain” Marty Scurll has reportedly signed a new deal with Ring of Honor, but that’s not all … he’s also apparently the promotion’s new lead booker.
PWInsider reports the length of Scurll’s new deal is unclear, but ROH has been locking talent into two-year contracts as of late and they presume his deal to be at least that long.
According to PWInsider … Marty is also taking on lead booking duties for the company, which began this weekend. Hunter Johnston aka Delirious will remain with the company in a creative role behind the scenes, but Scurll will have the lead position going forward.
Marty’s new deal also seems to allow him to work with other promotions, though it’s unclear which.
As of this writing, no official announcement has been made by Scurll or Ring of Honor.
EDITOR’S NOTE: We have not been able to confirm the information in PWInsider’s report at this time, but are working to do so.
Tessa Blanchard is currently "under fire" from various women wrestlers, accusing her of a being a racist and a bully.https://twitter.com/VcrWrestling/status/1216109146275303425
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.forbes.com/sites/alfredkonuwa/2020/01/11/tessa-blanchard-under-fire-amid-allegations-of-racism-bullying/amp/
https://mobile.twitter.com/ImChelseaGreen/status/1216058204238630912
https://mobile.twitter.com/Sienna/status/1216057780395827200
:nugenix
I still haven’t seen Marty wrestle so I can’t judge whether he’s worth the hype, but the articles on this story make it sound like RoH basically gave him run of their promotion with the freedom to work wherever he wants. It sounds pretty sweet, if too good to be true. Is this dude worth it for RoH?
I wouldn't be surprised about Tessa being a bully, she's aggro as fuck and the reason WWE didn't pick her up after the MYC was because she had attitude issues they wanted her to fix before hiring her and dealing with them.
I also wouldn't be surprised at her dropping N bombs, as she is a third generation wrassler from the South.
Say, isn’t Royal Rumble this month? Start of Wrestlemania season, right boys? Exciting!
Has this year’s Wrestlemania big match leaked yet? Well, I know it must have by now. What is it?
Impact's PPV name is Hard to Kill. So they just no contest RVD vs Brian Cage.
RVD suffering from a mid life crisis and looking like death isn't interesting.
Impact's PPV name is Hard to Kill. So they just no contest RVD vs Brian Cage.
RVD suffering from a mid life crisis and looking like death isn't interesting.
I think he's like a decade past a mid-life crisis.
After the match, RVD celebrated in the ring with his girlfriend and her girlfriend.
Impact's PPV name is Hard to Kill. So they just no contest RVD vs Brian Cage.
RVD suffering from a mid life crisis and looking like death isn't interesting.
I think he's like a decade past a mid-life crisis.QuoteAfter the match, RVD celebrated in the ring with his girlfriend and her girlfriend.
Y'all just hatin on a playa
you'd think she was the first wrestler to say the n word ::)
Brian Cage did not work against Rob Van Dam at Hard to Kill due to a torn bicep. SoCalUncensored.com is reporting Cage is signing with All Elite Wrestling, but the injury was the reason Cage did not compete. It should be noted that Cage's wife, Melissa Santos, is stating he has not signed anything with AEW.
Jordanne Grace is a fattie, ODB is a fattie, and at least Taya Valkyrie is Thicc.
RVD got rid of that hilariously awful numetal theme for some weird trap song? Smh. Also fuck him making out with that woman is genuinely disgusting.
Since 2016, [RVD] has been dating, former escort and now fellow professional wrestler Katie Forbes.:doge
Punished Murphy.
And RAW ends with hugs and previews for next week. LOL no overrun.
Punished Murphy.
Indeed- now he's a Rollins flunky.
NXT and AEW should just save money and cancel themselves now that NWA has my man :steiner
And it’s still more coherent than AEW! :steiner
Edit: lol Steiner said carolies instead of calories. The man always delivers, doesn’t he?
Sami spitting on her vag late in the match is the most vile and :wtf heel work I've seen in ages.
The four-year deal is worth $175 million, just under $45 million per year, and includes TNT having an option for 2024 at a significantly increased price.
Thankfully Dynamite isn't just BTE with wrestling, because BTE is fucking awful, unfunny trash. I have no idea how that caught on, it's legitimately unwatchable. They have a side series about getting room service at hotels and it's basically mini shoots that are a million times more engaging and personality showing than BTE.
I think people are still just excited that there's a big money promotion that isn't Vince. For some (myself included), it's not enough to overlook the glaring flaws that you can't just brush off as "oh they're new" anymore. And it's easier to be harder on them because they're new, fresh, and were supposed to be the wrestling promotion by wrestlers for wrestling fans and instead are just another flavor of WWE.
I'm still not sure why people like AEW. I completely understand hating Vince's "vision" for "sports entertainment," but it's not like there aren't other viable alternatives going on right now that do a better job at everything people SAY they want in a WWE alternative. NXT gives you great OMG workrate matches with coherent storytelling with believable characters; NWA powerrrrrrrrr is an incredible throwback to late 70's/early-mid 80's southern wrasslin with weird yet somehow charming shit, an emphasis on old timey grapplin, and well booked angles and characters. Impact is even a thing still and mostly doesn't suck outside of the dumb RVD shit. And that's not even going into shit like New Japan, AAA, etc.I'm fairly new to wrestling. I got interested in pro wrestling in general via seeing NJPW when they came to australia, and started watching it because I was basically expecting something like NJPW. (bucks, kenny, cody etc.) I can't stand RAW/Smackdown bullshit. I'm thinking I might just pivot to watching NXT or NWA powerrrrr. I don't hate AEW but they're kinda losing me. First few weeks I was glued to it but now I kinda drift out. The stupid bullshit with the Nightmare Collective is really sinking the fucking show.
The only things AEW really excels at are people doing moves at each other in high speed succession with little to no psychology involved and shitting on the idea of suspending your disbelief. And giving Jericho a platform, I guess. I'd honestly rather watch RAW, and I haven't bothered watching RAW in like a month.
bruh the womens match on dynamite just sucked the life out of the entire arena after the 4 way tag damn
I liked seeing DDP wrestle there. He did pretty nice for a creaky 60 year old, and he looked like he was having a blast. As long as this doesn’t become a thing, I’ll consider this nice.Yeah it wasn't as bad as I thought it was gonna be. MJF kinda over sold him though :lol
DIY vs Mustache Mountain :leon
Imperium vs Undisputed Era :leon
Finn Balor vs that Russian guy :leon
AlsoOh that's why they call it TNA :rash
https://youtu.be/bzk2moM8iNQ
That apparently got TNA banned from twitch :dead
Who was that guy acting like an authority figure just now? ???
https://old.vocaroo.com/i/s1WerSKCnhbx
no ufc thread so posting this herehttp://www.thebore.com/forum/index.php?topic=31157.0
that mcgregor fight :neogaf
You'd think WWE could find somebody who could translate Japanese for a backstage interview. :doge
liv's new look :whew
https://twitter.com/WWEPPorn/status/1219473250893410305liv's new look :whew
I kinda miss the old look. She looks pretty generic right now.
LOL at that being the main event segment. LOL at Liv's big re-debut match being that.
https://twitter.com/PERCADONCIC/status/1219305188663709698
(https://i.imgur.com/3vUhwZJ.jpg)
:dead they really did a top rope pop up DDT for a near fall on picture in picture :deadThat was in PiP? :lol I watch on fite.tv that spot was crazy
Who decided Britt Baker should get promo time?that shit show of a promo :anhuld
Who decided Britt Baker should get ring time?
Who decided Britt Baker should be employed by a wrestling company?
https://twitter.com/MeltzerSaidWhat/status/1218427250594369537
https://twitter.com/DavidChairez26/status/1218367636418985984
--- Konnan books for AAA. and said earlier that the other guy isn't going to get booked at AAA while he's there.
https://twitter.com/luchablog/status/1218412177662627840
https://twitter.com/luchablog/status/1218412758187814912
https://twitter.com/luchablog/status/1218416710887333888
Some friends and I are going to the NWA Powerrrrrrrr tapings in Atlanta this Saturday and if Scott Steiner is there, I *WILL* get him to call me fat
Is that similar to Britt Baker having a hard time cutting a promo and the audience groaning?
Was she tearing up because she kept fucking up the promo or because it was an emotional promo
"Babyface Lacey Evans" not working and Vince probably not understanding why the woman who has spent her entire career telling people they're nasty and not being able to wrestle well can't get over as a face just because he wants to fuck her is the most 2020 WWE thing of all time ever, can't wait for the first of what I'm sure will be many title wins for her this Sunday
"Babyface Lacey Evans" not working and Vince probably not understanding why the woman who has spent her entire career telling people they're nasty and not being able to wrestle well can't get over as a face just because he wants to fuck her is the most 2020 WWE thing of all time ever, can't wait for the first of what I'm sure will be many title wins for her this Sunday
Yeah. :lol :-\ Her whole gimmick is so heel-oriented. Easily one of the worst face turns to do with this kind of character. At least change her entrance theme or something.
The relationships thing is weird because they spent so many years going out of their way to put couples on different shows and almost always book anyone dating in romance angles with people they aren't dating in real life and now they'll kill their booking and shows to make sure all couples are on the same show no matter what.
End the brand split and trim some fat would be an ideal solution :yeshrug
Either that or make one show an all women’s show and one all men, were probably not far off an all women’s show not completely tanking the rating further :-*
House shows are combined rosters or some shit to keep the couples happy
The relationships thing is weird because they spent so many years going out of their way to put couples on different shows and almost always book anyone dating in romance angles with people they aren't dating in real life and now they'll kill their booking and shows to make sure all couples are on the same show no matter what.
Not even everybody, which is a head-scratcher- Bianca Belair is still on NXT even though her husband Montez Ford is on Raw. Same with Nikki Cross on SD and Killian Dain back on NXT.
But yeah modern WWE booking is trash. Like, one day Jinder fucking Mahal went from not having won a match on tv in months to we're supposed to take him seriously as a title contender after one match, then he's just champion? Utter fucking trash. Put work in to establish it. Don't just decide one day "this is what it's gonna be" and ask everyone to forget years of shitty booking.
I'm actually still fine with the brand split but lord do they ever need to just cut a bunch of people.
But yeah modern WWE booking is trash. Like, one day Jinder fucking Mahal went from not having won a match on tv in months to we're supposed to take him seriously as a title contender after one match, then he's just champion? Utter fucking trash. Put work in to establish it. Don't just decide one day "this is what it's gonna be" and ask everyone to forget years of shitty booking.
Jinder at least made sense in that they were trying to expand a bunch into India. IIRC that either fizzled out or nobody gave a shit after a while.
But yeah modern WWE booking is trash. Like, one day Jinder fucking Mahal went from not having won a match on tv in months to we're supposed to take him seriously as a title contender after one match, then he's just champion? Utter fucking trash. Put work in to establish it. Don't just decide one day "this is what it's gonna be" and ask everyone to forget years of shitty booking.
Jinder at least made sense in that they were trying to expand a bunch into India. IIRC that either fizzled out or nobody gave a shit after a while.
That's just a dumb fucking reason to push someone that has to get pops or heat in 'murica, tho. I'm not saying Jinder COULDN'T have worked, but asking your audience all of a sudden out of the blue to take credibly someone that was losing on Main Event a couple weeks previously is the height of arrogance and stupidity.
I mean, at the time even I was like "well at least this is saving us from a face champion Randy Orton, so whatever" but man did it suck.
I'm actually still fine with the brand split but lord do they ever need to just cut a bunch of people.
If they do that, the shows will be even more stale and samey than ever. Not that it's really any different now.
:neogaf
I'm actually still fine with the brand split but lord do they ever need to just cut a bunch of people.
If they do that, the shows will be even more stale and samey than ever. Not that it's really any different now.
:neogaf
Nah they can cut plenty of people and still use under utilized people. But some people don't need to be on your roster anymore if you're not going to do anything with them. Fuck man, give the Apollo Crews of the world a chance to be somebody somewhere else if you can't use them.
how big was the ass? we talking some rikishi donker or a darby allin sharp ass?Pretty big. Dude was a chunky mess.
That NXT worlds collide thing tonight is being held in a big arena :hehNXT events that occur alongside the Big 4 PPVs are usually held in the same arena as the main shows (and cost about as much to attend too).
I assumed that was a access deal like it was before, I’m actually looking forward to it just to see how empty the building is :mynicca
plz say daddy was there
I can't decide if Sam Roberts looks like Dean Ambrose with AIDS or like the human form of Oscar The Grouch
Ugh, what happened to Daniel Bryan’s head? He needs hair. He looks awful.
Wait, so Vince probably wanted him to get a haircut and he wouldn’t, so he came up with a shitty angle to trick him into doing it? Never mind, I like it now.
“Actually, it was my idea. And my idea was not the hair, it was just the beard. I had kind of pitched this to them as this idea of, ‘OK, how do we extend this story with Bray Wyatt,’ which is what they wanted to do, because he’s already defeated me cleanly, right? How do we do that? One of the things to me was that he’s changed people’s character so much when he’s faced them. And by him ripping out or cutting my beard, it would be this idea that he’s stripping me of part of my identity. That was my kind of pitch to them. What actually happened? They said, ‘Well, yeah, then he can cut your hair, too!’ And I was like, ‘No, I don’t really want that. I don’t want my hair to be cut.’ I kind of wanted my hair to be longer. Just wrestling wise, I like that.
But then, the day of, we’re like, ‘OK, well, he will rip out some of your hair.’ You’d have to understand the mechanisms that are going on while this is happening. We’re in a live TV show, right? So, they pulled me under the ring, they’ve got two barbers there who are in charge of like, getting my beard off and getting hair off so there can be this appearance of him ripping out my hair and all that kind of stuff. And we have a minute and a half of TV time left on the live show. And there’s also a producer down there, who’s saying, ‘We need more hair, we need more hair, we need more hair!’ And it’s completely dark under there. We were all so crammed in this little area because there’s also like real stuff under the ring that needs to be under the ring. It’s just all in this crammed little area and these guys are cutting my hair and cutting my beard really quick and they’re supposed to just to cut X amount of hair off, which wasn’t as much as they ended up doing. But the one guy on one side did a great job. They actually both did a great job considering the circumstances. But one guy just went a little too tight and a little too high. And then, after the show, they did their best … they tried after the show for like 45 minutes to make it like not just a shaved head. But that was the best we could do under the circumstances.
And it’s really funny, because as different as it is for my character, I knew I was in trouble, because my wife hates shaved heads. She’s never liked them, and I texted her immediately after. I said, ‘You’re not going like this.’ And her response was ‘What did you do?’ And I know I’m in trouble because she knows that this idea of the beard thing was my idea. So, my idea has led me to this. And I tried to take a couple pictures before I FaceTimed her, but none of them were good. And I was just like, ‘OK, I better just FaceTime her.’ And then, you know those conversations that you have with your significant other where it’s like, they’re really quiet and you can just see the anger. This was one of those kinds of things. But luckily that happened the day after Thanksgiving, and then I flew home that Saturday, and we had a bunch of family and stuff there, so she couldn’t be too outwardly mad. Then after a day or two it blows over. She just gets used to it, and that’s sort of how it all went down.”
Did I miss the King Corbin match :(
Ok, it is Brock. Why is he in the Rumble?
:heyman
Did not expect Drew to win. So what is the SD title situation going to be? Roman gets a shot anyway?
Edge coming back and being in there for so long was just like Beth in the women's rumble earlier, too, lol.
Did not expect Drew to win. So what is the SD title situation going to be? Roman gets a shot anyway?
Edge coming back and being in there for so long was just like Beth in the women's rumble earlier, too, lol.
That was a terrible event. Very few bright spots. I haven’t missed anything at all by dropping WWE.
I did like that they had Roman elimate Edge because they clearly couldn’t have someone the audience likes do it.
Edge also injured AJ with a spear.
You know, I would’ve loved it if Roman eliminated Edge AND won the rumble.
I don’t mind Charlotte but she seems to be on a Big Show turn schedule where every time I watch (only ppvs and maybe the odd tv segment for main roster shit) she’s turned one way or another. Is she a face or heel now? :idont
Saudi Show is Feb. 27th, Elimination Chamber is March 8th. So uh, that's 10 days to set up the March PPV. :lol
this MVP intro is comical if they're not giving him pyro
WWE has about 45 women wrestlers between Raw, Smackdown, NXT, NXT UK, and the PC, yet they still are giving spots in the Rumble to retired talents and a man crossdressing in a call back to like...10 years ago?
Fuck I just realized I’m watching Raw again :(
The surprise entrants aren't even surprises. They've brought Molly/Beth/Kelly Kelly out for everything for the past 3 years. Also what the fuck at having Tegan Nox and Dakota Kai in the match and not having them in at the same time.
Was there some angle with Beth and Charlotte heading into this or was Beth trying to get herself another PPV match for February.
Sasha is hurt? Again? >:(
Lol at just ignoring the back of Beth's head gushing blood. The back of her head was looking like prime 80s Flair and DustyTV
https://twitter.com/SKProWrestling/status/1221984566572802049
Pretty sure the chair was gimmicked, but fuck.
Jim Cornette is calling Kenny Omega an incel virgin on his podcast :lol :cornette Cornette’s podcast is the best part of wrasslin because he is INSANE. He’s going on about how Kenny would be wrestling 9-year old girls on TV if he was allowed.
They should do a look back at the time when Edge cheated on his wife with Lita and Matt Hardy went apeshit got fired then had an angle where Kane impregnated her and Snitsky kicked the baby and Matt came back only to lose over and over again to Edge!And that's why I kicked your leg outta your leg!
Please stop giving crazy tennis racket man attention.Jim Cornette is calling Kenny Omega an incel virgin on his podcast :lol :cornette Cornette’s podcast is the best part of wrasslin because he is INSANE. He’s going on about how Kenny would be wrestling 9-year old girls on TV if he was allowed.
The latest drive thru? :hyper
not wyatt?
not wyatt?
Sorry, meant on Raw.
Edge returned for....a Wrestlemania feud with Randy Orton?
:goty
Edge returned for....a Wrestlemania feud with Randy Orton?
:goty
During the Royal Rumble PPV on Sunday night (Jan. 26), Pro Wrestling Sheet reported there had been “tense encounter” backstage between Brock Lesnar and Matt Riddle. Nothing physical, but after years of Riddle tweeting about how he was going to retire Brock, Lesnar apparently decided to take the opportunity to give The Original Bro a piece of his mind.
We’ve got a couple new reports on the incident, and it seems more like a one-way communication than the “verbal altercation” Sheet described. “Tense” sounds like the right word, though.
According to sources of TalkSPORT’s Alex McCarthy, Lesnar approached Riddle and grabbed his shoulder to get his attention. The former UFC Heavyweight champ then told the former UFC welterweight:Quote“Kid, you might as well stop saying my name and tagging me in shit because you and I will never work together. Ever.”
Riddle - no stranger to awkward backstage moments with legends of the business - is said to have tried to respond, but Brock kept moving and didn’t give him a chance to. Fightful says a source described the scene by saying Lesnar’s the “wrong one to f*** with and that Matt “was spoken to by Brock and he understood.”
All the sites confirmed the incident didn’t involve any physical violence.
Riddle, who was tweeting about retiring Brock as recently as Saturday night, was eliminated in just 41 seconds during the Rumble match. This morning, he tweeted this:
https://twitter.com/SuperKingofBros/status/1222180207622336513
WWE has always been able to count on drawing ratings for certain shows, like for episodes of Monday Night Raw coming just one evening after a pay-per-view. This has been true even in the WWE Network era.
But that’s slowly changing.
Look at this trend (as pointed out by the Wrestling Observer) over the past few years in regards to viewership for the post-Royal Rumble episode of Monday Night Raw:
2016: 4.10 million
2017: 3.62 million
2018: 3.40 million
2019: 2.71 million
2020: 2.40 million
WWE promoted Charlotte Flair and Drew McIntyre making their decision on who they would challenge for a title at WrestleMania 36 (even if they didn’t follow through on that, in Flair’s case), and it didn’t make much difference at all. They also promoted Edge returning to the show to make clear he’s back and will be wrestling some more. That didn’t make much difference at all.
considering the reactions he's been getting lately, Drew is already the top babyface. not that there's much competition on raw.
Yeah, but will that last? He seems like way more of a natural heel type.well that is the tough part. i know he was a huge face in TNA as the "fuck SPORTS ENTERTAINMENT i'm bringing back PRO WRESTLING" guy and supposedly vince has been in love with him for years so i could see him getting the roman treatment for better or worse
https://mobile.twitter.com/TeganNoxWWE_/status/1222275273367879683
:what
i still don't know who the fuck chelsea green is and they haven't explained it very well
oh wow he actually cracked his own :lol
Then why the hell are they doing one in February? Why didn't they do a normal takeover with the Rumble instead of Worlds Collide, especially as they didn't do anything with the UK talent in either Rumble anyway? Now they're going to have a stopgap show that will surely be quality but then will make the WM show a rehash or have a show with a month and a half of new storylines when this upcoming show has stuff going back to October.
Fastlane got canceled this year.
Nah, there's nothing on the calendar between Elimination Chamber and Mania, at this point it would be hard logistically to put a ppv together on basically a month and a half's notice.
STAMFORD, Conn., January 30, 2020 – WWE (NYSE: WWE) today announced that Co-Presidents George Barrios and Michelle Wilson will depart the company, effective immediately, and will no longer serve on its Board of Directors.
Frank A. Riddick III, who has served as a member of WWE’s Board of Directors for more than 11 years, has been named interim Chief Financial Officer, reporting to WWE Chairman & CEO Vince McMahon. WWE has commenced a search for both a permanent Chief Financial Officer and Chief Revenue Officer.
WWE remains well positioned to continue its growth and operate effectively against its strategic priorities, including content creation and distribution, digitization, and localization in key markets around the world. The Company expects its full year 2019 Adjusted OIBDA to be approximately $180 million.
“I would like to thank George and Michelle for their 10+ years of service and contributions to the organization,” said McMahon. “I am grateful for all that was accomplished during their tenure, but the Board and I decided a change was necessary as we have different views on how best to achieve our strategic priorities moving forward.
I think one of them is in Rowan's cage:lol
Dan Ryckert gets hired by WWE and the stock drops 20%. :dogesomehow ryckert is gonna rise to one of those president roles :lol
Surely it will stretch to Wrestlemania too
In an effort to stand out from the pack of Wrestlemania week shows, Impact announced their event would be a throwback to the company’s TNA days. TNA: There’s No Place Like Home on April 3 will be a celebration of the past.
Impact has been announcing the former TNA talents invited to participate throughout the past week. Here is the list (so far):
Chris Sabin
“Wildcat” Chris Harris
Scott Steiner
Petey Williams
Amazing Red
Disco Inferno
D’Lo Brown & Ken Anderson as Aces & Eights
wasn't watching raw but this seems aight
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Did Rey get popped for steroids this time? :lol
Saudi shows went from a 50 man Royal Rumble to getting HBK out of retirement for a DX vs Brothers of Destruction match to Undertaker vs Goldberg to Brock vs Cain Velasquez and Braun vs Tyson Fury to Brock vs.....Ricochet?A WRESTLEMANIA EQUIVALENT EVENT :doge
:brock2
Nah, but apparently MOA JOE is about to get a wellness violation.
:samoa
Hahaha this mixed gender match is awkward. Kip Sabian is just beating this little Japanese schoolgirl wrestler while her partner Kenny Omega is in the corner gazing all intense like he’s a cuck in the closet watching his missy get bulled by a real man. This really is 100% Kenny’s fetish.the reason i know me and kenny aint compatible is he went for the cuck angle instead of the penelope ford femdom angle :drool
A dentist heel who breaks her opponent's teeth so she can get extra scratch doing emergency surgery on them after the show :leonGotta respect the hustle
That would be the best gimmick in AEW tbh
A dentist heel who breaks her opponent's teeth so she can get extra scratch doing emergency surgery on them after the show :leonGotta respect the hustle
That would be the best gimmick in AEW tbh
Was that a fan jumping mjf at the end there? :lol kayfabe lives
As we work to strengthen engagement in 2020, we are pursuing several strategic initiatives that could increase the monetization of our content, including the distribution of content in the Middle East and India as well as strategic alternatives for our direct-to-consumer service, WWE Network.curious what these alternatives to the network will be
Looking forward to listening when I get home :-*
I love how he directs most of his ire at Olivier when he's just a fairly unassuming weeb nerd, when the Young Bucks are far more objectionable all around.
Vince is apparently thinking about selling off PPV rights to some other OTT streaming service, effectively knee capping the main selling point for the Network (Most recent PPVs and NXT are always the top two shows, NXT is now on TV). They're also still working on a higher tier that won't include the live PPVs but will have like...merch sales or some shit?
The fuck? He fired the presidents and then is openly thinking about tanking the thing he's built his company around for the past 5 years? And is going to be spending most of his time on the XFL with no one to run the company? The vote of no confidence angle about to happen IRL.
Vince is apparently thinking about selling off PPV rights to some other OTT streaming service, effectively knee capping the main selling point for the Network (Most recent PPVs and NXT are always the top two shows, NXT is now on TV). They're also still working on a higher tier that won't include the live PPVs but will have like...merch sales or some shit?
The fuck? He fired the presidents and then is openly thinking about tanking the thing he's built his company around for the past 5 years? And is going to be spending most of his time on the XFL with no one to run the company? The vote of no confidence angle about to happen IRL.
I'm just shocked that Corny hasn't blocked 5 Star Dave on ye olde tweet machine
I'd get banned off here for saying what I wish would happen to Harpo & the rest of his ilk but you know how I feel so imagine it.Fuck all y'all.
Seriously? :lol
2K20 has released Southpaw Regional Wrasslin DLC but it appears that almost all of the characters weren't even in the series. :what
In fact it seems like the only character from it is the Tyler Breeze evil banker guy. There's a tower dedicated to Rusev's Big Bart character but he's not listed as one of the new characters. Other than that I don't think any of the others included were on either season of SRW.
New WWE Superstar Characters:
Georgia Washington (Charlotte Flair)
Dosvetanya (Lana)
Bad Hair Day (Ember Moon)
Misfit Molly (Becky Lynch)
Samantha Urai (Kairi Sane)
Sasha Memorybanks (Sasha Banks)
Bay Lee Billionaire (Bayley)
Mackelroy (Tyler Breeze)
Glam Rocker (Johnny Gargano)
Sea Creature
Lana was in fact on Southpaw...as a completely different character. Even though there's a storyline dedicated to Rusev's character and angle, which she was a part of. :what
One of the arenas included is a Nitro Spring Break arena with the ring in a pool though, which would be neat for create an area in a game that wasn't completely broken.
:goldbergSeriously? :lol
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Announced Card (Subject to Change, even more so because it's AAA)
Drago Kid, Iron Kid & Laredo Boy vs. Látigo, Low Rider & Parkita Negra Mini Trios Match
Dinastía ** (AAA World Minis Champ), **Big Mami, & Mr. Iguana vs. Lady Maravilla ** (1/2 AAA Mixed-Tag Champs), **La Hiedra, & Parka Negra Relevos Triple A Match
Los Parks (LA Park Jr. & 1/2 of The Crash Tag Team Champs Hijo de LA Park) vs. & Villano III Jr (1/2 AAA Mixed-Tag Champs) & Súper Fly vs. Los Jineteas del Aire (2/3 of AAA Trios Champs Myzteziz Jr. & Octagón Jr.) Three-Corner Tag Match
Hijo Del Vikingo (1/3 of AAA Trios Champs Los Jineteas del Aire), Rey Horus (1/3 of RoH Six-Man Champs) & Puma King vs. Los Mercenarios (Rey Escorpión, Texano Jr. & Volz Ultra Champ Taurus) Six-Man Tag Match
Psycho Clown (EMW Champ), Murder Clown & "Luchador Sorpresa" vs Nuevo Poder del Norte (Carta Brava Jr., Mocho Cota Jr. & Tito Santana) Speical Trios Match
Lucha Brothers (AAA Tag Team Champs Fénix & Pentagón Jr.) & Dr. Wagner Jr. vs La Faccion Ingobernable (La Bestia Del Ring, 1/2 of the Crash Tag Team Champs LA Park & KAOZ Champ Rush Toro Blanco) Lucha Estellar Official Poster
:drudge :drudge :drudge :drudge :drudge
On the new experience :cornette reads an email outright calling Dave Meltzer an austisty
And also goes on another unhinged 10 min rant about Kenny Olivier
:rejoice :rejoice :rejoice
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PqZee90STHE:drudge :drudge :drudge :drudge :drudge
On the new experience :cornette reads an email outright calling Dave Meltzer an austisty
And also goes on another unhinged 10 min rant about Kenny Olivier
:rejoice :rejoice :rejoice
Jesus dude, you have me anticipating my commute tomorrow!
dave is an autisty :lolSure, but I have more of an issue with Cornette trying to justify his behavior with it. Eh.
I’m so tempted to listen now but I know it will put me in a good mood for work if I save it for the morning. Is it epic? Please tell me it’s at least as good as last week’s.
i put on raw and becky is bleeding everywhere? ???
So Rusev and Bobby are "done" and this feud is now just Lana and Liv, with no explanation why? LOL.
Last I saw, it was "creative has no plans for Rusev right now."
...wasn't that whole cuck thing supposed to be their most popular storyline!? :lol
apparently a year or so ago he was tired of what they were putting on the buffet because it was the same food over and over again, so he hired a bunch of new cooks to rework their concept and they completely redid the buffet menu from scratch.
Snorenado, could you please go to that Shoneys and hang out there for like a week and get Steiner to sign something for me?
Anyone else following the cornette biz beef :delicious
Poppy will be performing live at TakeOver: Portland.:larry
:dead at the women's match turning into a Kenny Omega tribute and 98 pound Riho doing snap dragon suplexes on a 200 pound woman just landing on her head both times, then hitting a northern lights suplex as well :cornette
AEW has had 3 1/2 months to build for this PPV and they're going to end up booking half the card in the last 2 weeks before the show :dead
The PPV already sold out. AEW afans already shown that they buy the PPV. Even full gear sold around 100,000+
My point was more what's the fucking point of having such long gaps between PPVs when you're just going to scramble and put most of the show together 2-3 weeks beforehand anyway?
The PPV already sold out. AEW afans already shown that they buy the PPV. Even full gear sold around 100,000+
My point was more what's the fucking point of having such long gaps between PPVs when you're just going to scramble and put most of the show together 2-3 weeks beforehand anyway?
1. Disco Inferno has a podcast? Who would listen to that? He was a shitty ham-and-egger.
2. Cornette is going to have everyone thinking Meltzer is autistic now. Jim Cornette knew exactly what he was doing. This list needs to be updated with “Convinced wrestling industry Dave Meltzer is autistic”: https://bleacherreport.com/articles/1171870-15-targets-of-verbal-and-physical-abuse-from-jim-cornette
:cornette :steiner:dead at the women's match turning into a Kenny Omega tribute and 98 pound Riho doing snap dragon suplexes on a 200 pound woman just landing on her head both times, then hitting a northern lights suplex as well :cornette
Next week’s commutes are looking pretty sweet!
SEAN MOONEY has a podcast :dead
That main event was overbooked to hell
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mgdgywqUT5w
I watched the first ep of the Ruthless Aggression doc and lol that they're still running with the narrative of "We started Raw and ruled the wrestling world and then Ted Turner decided to buy himself a wrasslin' company and compete with us" as if Ted Turner hadn't been running wrestling on his network since before it even went national and actually bought JCP in late 1988. It's also always conveniently ignored that prior to Raw and Nitro, ratings weren't particularly important and WCW traditionally had always had higher ratings on their weekend shows than WWF. There's really never ever been a discussion about ratings on pre-Monday Night Wars shows, even from WCW guys.
so...no matt hardy and randy match. watching raw is already a mistake :lol
Caught up on Corn Daddy. I’m surprised he’s dropping NXT for Raw. He never seemed as big as everyone else on NXT, but he seems to have really rapidly cooled on it over the past month.wonder if any of them have cte bad enough to benoit me :dunno
Anyway, if he’s only covering Raw and AEW now, his AEW reviews are going to start sounding significantly more positive. Unless, you know, Jim happens to be irrationally insane.
Also we should have a WrassleBore meetup at this. We can have a classic Backstage Betty contest like teen girls used to in the 70s, and see who can groupie it up best and bed the most old wrestlers. They’re probably all CTE’d so it probably won’t be much more difficult than it is for you guys at the playground.
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I personally can’t wait to get London Bridged by Bushwacker Luke and New Jack. Also: Kevin Sullivan a2m.
Did anyone watch this new NWA show? Normally I’d just watch it but I see that Mall Bump kid is on it and I don’t want to endorse that nonsense unless it’s worthwhile.
mall kid needs to roid up :goldberg
already outlived pops by about 3 years :success
What the hell is up with Angelico and Jack Evans’ ring gear? They’re dressed like special edition Mountain Dew cans. And why does their tag team have such a lame name?For real. Whenever they do something cool it makes me angry because they're dressed like motocross themed jobbers
That match was pretty legit. I thought that jump was fantastic.
WWE Superstar Samoa Joe reportedly suffered an injury during a commercial shoot last week and is currently not cleared to wrestle.
According to Ryan Satin of Pro Wrestling Sheet, the injury occurred when Joe took a table spot as part of a WWE commercial shoot. Joe reportedly hit his head, and Satin has been told by sources that The Samoan Submission Machine could miss "a considerable amount of time."
Also just ignored that the Thuganomics character was supposed to be a corny white guy trying to be a black gangsta rapper and treated the whole thing as legitimite. Just ignored the heel version of the character, Brock feud, "FU"
I mean I know most of the fans were in on the joke and Cena would have gotten over anyway, but still, the way it's presented in the documentary just feels weird and almost propagandish :doge
https://twitter.com/greatbrianlast/status/1230960389506109441
:dead at the women's match on AEW and how completely disinterested the commentary team was in it. JR COMPLETELY shitting on Statlander's gimmick, literally asked Excalibur to explain it and then told him to stop when he got into it :lol , the cut away to Tony's coffee, JR asking if there was Blue Chew in Tony's coffee, Brit Baker complaining about being cyber stalked and berrying the entire division and ranking system.
WWE really going to do Cena vs Goldberg for the Universal Title? :doge
“The way I had it listed the main event is no longer on the card.”
“A lot’s changed. The only two matches that I’ve written about that have changed and I was told that they were changed are Bray Wyatt and Roman Reigns and John Cena and Elias. I believe there are four or five matches that have been changed.”
That's a few years old, but still awesome.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSd-DxuAUzUspoiler (click to show/hide)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R1fXUWZNb7Q[close]
In other news, Adam Page making his way up my favorites tweeter listhttps://twitter.com/AytchDeeThang/status/1231735523342942209
https://twitter.com/theAdamPage/status/1231721820585373696
This may be the worst and best wrestling shirt I’ve seen in years. I’m so conflicted. Why is the sword so big?bigger than brock's ;)
I'd say that's a pretty good description of Drew McIntyre himself
The fuck is with Wrestlers and cupping?carnies are fucking retarded
Is he hyping Pizza King?
How do you see a tweet like that and not see that he's working a gimmick for attention
He claims pizza is all about the toppings, and sauce is just there for moisture. I’ve lost a lot of respect for Jim this morning. I guess his eating habits have always been questionable.
https://twitter.com/eric_berge/status/1232730375446835202
https://twitter.com/JANELABABY/status/1232730649397727232
:cornette
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Kenny Olivier wore this on goddamned American television :cornette
cornette orders a burger with double cheese, double mayo, and double onion. :kobeyuck the man is not to be trusted around food.
Meltzdawg now saying WM will have Reigns vs. Goldberg and Cena vs. Fiend but he doesn't know which match is for the title :lol
the meltz speculation is that fiend retains today via fuckery, oldberg and reigns get a "whos the biggest dog" dick measuring contest, and cena declares himself for the elimination chamber tomorrow on smackdown which he wins and then fights bray. seems possible to me.
The bell sounds and Lesnar swats away an offensive attempt from Ricochet. From there The Beast launches Ricochet in the air with the first German Suplex of the match. The announcers reference suplex city. Lesnar with another suplex. And for a third time, Ricochet goes flying and landing on his neck/back. Lesnar toys with a grounded Ricochet now.
Lesnar hoists Ricochet up like a small child and launches him with his F-5 finisher. That's it, folks. Just that fast, Brock Lesnar defeats Ricochet and retains his WWE Championship. Michael Cole says this performance by Lesnar was a direct message to Drew McIntyre, Lesnar's opponent for his title defense at WrestleMania 36.
The music of Wyatt dies down and now he and Goldberg stare each other down from across the ring. The bell sounds and this one is officially underway. Goldberg hits a spear out of nowhere immediately. He covers him, but Wyatt kicks out at two.
Wyatt locks Goldberg into the Mandible Claw but the WWE Hall Of Famer fights his way out of it. Goldberg catches The Fiend with another spear out of nowhere. And again. Goldberg hits a total of four spears and covers him. 1-2... Wyatt still manages to kick out.
Out of nowhere, The Fiend locks Goldberg in the Mandible Claw once again. Goldberg is trying to fight his way out of it, but The Fiend sinches it in tighter. Goldberg manages to make it to his feet while still in the hold. Goldberg headbutts his way out of the hold and finds himself in position to deliver his finisher, the JackHammer. He hits it. 1-2-3. Goldberg wins. Goldberg is the new WWE Universal Champion.
Lol if they spent like what...9 months on this Fiend bullshit, rebuilding the very damaged Bray Wyatt character into something to be taken seriously again, only to have him drop the title in a random match with 53 year old Goldberg at a stunt show in Saudi Arabia:snoop :shaq2
After The Match:
The lights go out and the music of Goldberg stops. When the lights come back on, Goldberg is in the ring alone with the WWE Universal Championship title belt.
"Just like that, 'The Fiend' is gone," says Michael Cole.
Did Bray not even bring his spooky title belt to the showHe did but then the title somehow turned back into the regular blue one once 'berg won it!
The main event of Revolution is going to be Pac jobbing to Pockets.
The main event of Revolution is going to be Pac jobbing to Pockets.and it will fucking rule. :rejoice
Trying to fight the urge to well actually... this comparison.let it loose brah, that's the purpose of forums
The arena recently updated their listing for the pay-per-view and now has The Usos vs. Dolph Ziggler and Robert Roode vs. Heavy Machinery vs. Lucha House Party vs. The New Day vs. new SmackDown Tag Team Champions John Morrison and The Miz, inside the Chamber structure with the blue brand tag team titles on the line.
Morrison and The Miz just defeated The New Day for the titles at WWE Super ShowDown in Saudi Arabia on Thursday.
The arena previously had another Chamber match advertised with the winner going on to challenge for the WWE Universal Title at WrestleMania 36. The participants listed were Roode, Roman Reigns, Shinsuke Nakamura, King Baron Corbin, Daniel Bryan and WWE Intercontinental Champion Braun Strowman. That match, which was never officially announced by WWE, is no longer advertised by the arena. It was believed that the line-up would change, but that Reigns and some of the others would remain in the match.
Reigns was expected to win that advertised Chamber match, to go on to WrestleMania 36 and challenge "The Fiend" Bray Wyatt for the WWE Universal Title at WrestleMania 36. The Fiend dropped the title to WWE Hall of Famer Bill Goldberg at Super ShowDown in Saudi Arabia yesterday, and Reigns then confronted him on tonight's SmackDown. It looks like WWE found another way to get to Reigns vs. the Universal Champion at WrestleMania 36.
With the arena pulling that match, there's no word yet on if there will be a Men's Elimination Chamber match with singles competitors.
Reigns is gonna win at WM with one fucking spear after the bell and then we’re going to get Brock vs Reigns again in the summer. 💤
Reigns vs Cain vs Kane triple threat
darby allin is the least convincing wrestler on the entire roster including pockets. i will never be convinced he could hurt someone.
i completely forgot about him :lol
i thought he was a fan :rofl
Cody is a dumb wrestler.
I’m surprised you liked that tag match that much. I thought that was the pits outside of Page. Omega and the Bucks are just incoherent in the ring. They’re like children fucking arbitrarily with the autocomplete function on this iPhone keyboard.
My deepest secret is sometimes I really enjoy stupid spot fests and cool moves and Page/Omega have a lot of really cool combo sequences.
The former President and current General Manager of All Japan Pro Wrestling (AJPW), Jun Akiyama, will soon be traveling from Japan to the United States to serve as a guest coach at the WWE Performance Center in Orlando, Florida, and to meet with WWE EVP Paul "Triple H" Levesque while in town.
Uh oh, did I just miss something I’m going to need to see before the next :cornette?https://streamable.com/3ddky
Haha, who the fuck did Ricochet piss off
https://twitter.com/maki_itoh/status/1235044793253654529https://twitter.com/maki_itoh/status/1235042112153874432
Matt Hardy is def going to AEW. The Bucks of Youth were in his latest video. He knew they'd come :uguu
Obviously it will be some form of it. I think there could be some fantastic fuckery with Kenny getting turned into a BTE sprite and Orange Cassidy. And Khan money. They should poach Jeremy Borash as well.
The build in the latest :cornette drive thru is beautiful :lawd
”I’m so mellow right now.”
“Same thing that went wrong with everybody else that went there from WCW. Look at what everybody did. Triple H beat everybody. Kevin Nash went in and he did a DQ and then he got beat. Sting got treated worse, he had one match with them and he was done. That’s the thing when a guy is a mark and he wants to beat everybody and who is a legitimate pu**y. Wikipedia don’t like, seriously. Look at what he’s done, nothing. Then he got into professional wrestling and that was his time to shine.”
“I think about it when people ask me about it but I know there’s not a chance in hell that we get to be inducted because of the way my brother [rips WWE].”
According to the Wrestling Observer Newsletter, there was “negativity and uncertainty” within Vince McMahon’s reaction to Shayna Baszler after her match with Kairi Sane on Monday Night Raw this week, apparently because Baszler didn’t come off like a WrestleMania headliner.
Wait- there's no SD men's chamber match for the number one contender? So it really was just Roman proclaiming himself the next in line and getting it? :lol
about that protection :lol
Guess Vince changed his mind
Or Dave was full of shit :doge
all petite is coming here, kinda surprised cause its a pretty small arena but i guess they are doing smaller venues than wwe
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Alexia Briss is some low key anti-semitism. :lol:drool
After last night's Raw went off the air, Seth Rollins got on the mic and cut a promo saying "you may not like it, but I am the Monday Night Messiah and anyone who messes with me will wind up just like that" in reference to beating down Kevin Owens. Drew McIntyre then came out and delivered a Claymore Kick to Rollins before ending the night by saying: "I’ll be damned if we’re going to end the night with that son of a bitch Seth Rollins getting the last laugh in Washington, DC" and that once he beats Brock Lesnar at WrestleMania and wins the title, things will be different.
WWE taped matches for this week's Main Event prior to last night's Raw. Below are the results:
Ricochet def. Eric Young
Humberto Carrillo def. Shelton Benjamin after hitting him with a moonsault
EDITOR'S NOTE::mike
I don't want anyone to think I'm a fan of Eric Young, the above posts were satire
seems like a smart move to hire a dude who retired from the nfl due to back issues. the future tag team with mojo will certainly make it all worthwhile.
World Wrestling Entertainment has pulled the plug on this Friday's Smackdown taping in Detroit, Michigan and will instead broadcast Friday Night Smackdown and 205 Live this week from the WWE Performance Center in Orlando, Florida, PWInsider.com has confirmed with multiple sources.https://twitter.com/SeanRossSapp/status/1237939658841034754
The decision was made today due to the current coronavirus outbreak.
An official announcement regarding the change is forthcoming.
There is no word whether this means this coming Monday's Raw taping will also follow suit.
On the latest Wrestling Observer Radio, Dave Meltzer confirmed that Rezar of the AOP suffered a torn right biceps during his match on Monday Night Raw. He continued to work the rest of the match despite the injury but it was clear his right arm was injured. While WWE has not officially confirmed the injury, the belief is that Rezar will be sidelined for "several months" if surgery isn't required and if he does have to undergo surgery, he could be out up to 8 or 9 months.
That's going to be a lot of lost revenue for them, damn.I remember they did something similar at the HQ office after there was some huge snowstorm that trapped everyone in Connecticut. Ended up being an excellent show but was pretty weird. WWE usually does their best when they have to improvise like that.
Going to be so weird seeing a show with no audience in attendance. Are they going to pipe in cheers? :doge
Luckily most cities are making their limits for events 250 or 500 so I doubt the Crockett Cup would need to worry.
Why doesn’t WWE just do a hologram audience?
Are they going to even keep going during the break? :thinking
Who knew that the NWA had the right business plan all along during a studio show? :doge
But really, why was Triple H so good on commentary tonight?
But really, why was Triple H so good on commentary tonight?
Either a lack of Vince in his ear or if he was, Trips probably just ignored him
triple h-uh on the mic-uh is always-uh a treat-uh
“The WWE Hall of Fame Ceremony and NXT TakeOver will not take place as previously scheduled. We will share further details as they become available.”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZko8p5-yKs
Crockett Cup is suspended, refunds will be issued.
In studio shows in Atlanta is canceled until June.
National Wrestling Alliance? I been out the game so long I have no idea what the fuckNWA Power is the best wrestling show out there right now and its the best time to catch up...and it's all legally on Youtube!
National Wrestling Alliance? I been out the game so long I have no idea what the fuckNWA Power is the best wrestling show out there right now and its the best time to catch up...and it's all legally on Youtube!
I've been wanting to catch up on AEW and start from the beginningdon't bother :nope stro is wrong about nwa but he's at least spot on about AEW. it's so poorly booked it makes WWE look competent by comparison. legit the only good shows are nxt and nwa. everything else is either wwe or really wants to be wwe and fails.
how the fuck did ROH dieThat's Evolve that WWE is working with now. Dunno about ROH. I know that Bubba Dudley is in charge over there and it's gone real downhill. Lethal is still with ROH and a tag champ I believe?
Wasn't WWE using ROH as a farming system and had stake in the company now or something? Jay Lethal is still with ROH? That man would make bank at WWE.
They've been a ghost of a promotion since NXT blew up and took the entire roster and the only time anyone cared about them was when the New Japan guys were in town, and then the entire Bullet Club up and left all at the same time and the company was pretty much built entirely around The Elite and NJ coming in, then NJ stopped working with them. They also are absolutely terrible at getting people to sign contracts before making them the focus of the company so they went from champions like Adam Cole, Kyle O'Riley, Jay Lethal, Chris Daniels, Cody Rhodes to Matt Taven and Quebecer Pierre Carl Outlette from The Mounties in the early days of Raw.Time to put Cornette back in charge :lol
wait so the big reveal is luke harper? and he's calling chris daniels an old man? breh just cause you dyed your gray beard doesn't make you young. :lol
AEW with a larger audience than WWE! :o
https://twitter.com/AEWonTNT/status/1240458505867288577
You want them to bump in front of no one?
"Drew & Wife"
He is over. I'm blown away but he's somehow getting really good reactions. He came back from TNA with "the look" and Vince fell back in love is the reason behind it I guess.
"Drew & Wife"
He is over. I'm blown away but he's somehow getting really good reactions. He came back from TNA with "the look" and Vince fell back in love is the reason behind it I guess.
The real problem with AEW is that no one is there to tell the talent "no." The Bucks and Lucha Bros wanna do million mile an hour stupid spot monkey fests with dozens of finisher kick outs, so they get to do them. Cody wants to be his dad and shit on WWE, so he gets to try, anyway. Jericho wants to be fat and gets to, Moxley wants to have stupid gory garbage matches every week, etc etc etc.
Honestly the only thing worth watching on the show is Britt Baker emasculating Tony Schiavone. But I'm aware that I'm a very specific audience with a very specific kink, so.
The real problem with AEW is that no one is there to tell the talent "no." The Bucks and Lucha Bros wanna do million mile an hour stupid spot monkey fests with dozens of finisher kick outs, so they get to do them. Cody wants to be his dad and shit on WWE, so he gets to try, anyway. Jericho wants to be fat and gets to, Moxley wants to have stupid gory garbage matches every week, etc etc etc.
Honestly the only thing worth watching on the show is Britt Baker emasculating Tony Schiavone. But I'm aware that I'm a very specific audience with a very specific kink, so.
So it's the exact opposite problem of WWE.
aew is fine. its an entertaining rasslin tv show with fun characters, engaging storylines, decent booking, and white hot crowds. not sure what more folks want tbh, especially when there's a niche for everyone now
storylines/promos/character work >>>>> wrestling match quality anyway, so i don't think a strictly sports focused product would've worked as well, at least here in america. that's why stuff like the cody lashing worked as well as it did
at the end of the day, it's a tv show first and foremost, so it's got to hook as much of the mainstream wrestling audience and lapsed fans that it can
i agree on the in-ring storytelling stuff actually, but it should be there to accentuate the first and foremost storytelling done outside the ring too. i'm not implying you disagree with the latter either, just speaking on my preferences.
like the omega/page vs young bucks match was all out spots with tons of in ring story telling, but it wouldn't have had as much impact without the good build or without page getting over being an attitude era-like character.
98.9% of all no crowd shows suck from any company so i dunno if that's much of an endorsement
i'm sure aew is fine if all you want is "not wwe" but there's nothing there for me. adam page seems to have already grown more than i expected there, he was the one highlight of the entire last ppv, so good on him. otherwise most of there stuff seems to be kinda meh with a mix of old and busted wwe (matt hardy, luke harper, goldust) and literal who cares wwe (swagger, the 10 guy). maybe all they need is cody to make another speech or two about how much his dad means to him or whatever. also they should fire their entire women's division and start over.
these shows are so bizarre :lol
solo cole is not the move i would have gone with :lol
https://twitter.com/AEWrestling/status/1241189251124953089luckily we're getting these fresh faces and new stars instead, thank god for aew :lol
AEW cancels war games and will do it later.
when does nwa air
replaying the triple threat from RR2015 is a weird choice but this match is :lawd so i'll allow it
We're about to get RAW and Smackdown coming from Titan Studios in Connecticut in a couple of weeks. :doge
So Brodie Lee/Luke Harper's new gimmick is basically Vince McMahon.It makes the whole dark order thing pretty cringy having them be a WWE stand in. It fits as a really nerdy hurr durr the wwe are a cult that turn you into a jobber, but man I still don't like it. As soon as it was the daddy eats first thing I was like aw fuck he's meant to be vince, I think that's way too on the nose.
Mike Johnson stated on PW Insider Elite Audio that everyone in WWE is against carrying on with WrestleMania 36 in any form. Vince McMahon dictated that the show must go on and that is exactly what happened.
“I can confirm after speaking to dozens of people in the company. I’m talking wrestlers, behind the scenes people, whatever, there is only one person who felt that they should have went forward with WrestleMania and that’s why they’re going forward with WrestleMania and that’s Vince.”
Brodie revealed that when he and Rowan were out with injuries, Vince McMahon had a plan to repackage them as a new version of Demolition.
Brodie said he was told, “Vince wants to put you guys back together and give you a big push and he wants you guys to be like Demolition.” Brodie wasn’t sure if wearing Demolition gear in 2018 would work but Vince let them pitch some ideas. He said Rowan had great ideas for their Bludgeon Brothers look. Jericho asked Brodie to clarify what he meant about Vince wanting them to look like Demolition. Brodie said, “We were shown a picture of Demolition and he said this is what he wants you guys to be. Literally a picture of Demolition and creative services showed us other pictures and it was very Demolition-ish.”
Brodie said he called Mark Carrano 15 times and he didn’t answer so he texted him and got through to him to let him know that he wanted to get his release. After that is when he went public on Twitter because he didn’t want WWE to control the narrative and he knew Shawn Spears did the same and his release was granted.
Brodie said Vince called him and said, “For business reasons, I can’t let you go.” He added, “Hunter called me and said ‘what do you want to do, do you want to go to New Japan?’ I was like yes, 100 percent. I was like can we make that happen? He goes, ‘yeah, I think I can make that happen.’ And then, of course, it never happened and nothing ever came of it and then we talked about going to NXT and that never happened.”
I saw something on twitter about phil putting out feelers for working mania, could be fake news tho :trumps
Not only did WWE not reach out to CM Punk for WrestleMania this year, Dave Meltzer said on Wrestling Observer Radio that the company is against the idea of him ever wrestling for them again. There’s apparently more bitterness from WWE toward Punk now than vice versa.
Supposedly all the rest of the tv leading up to Mania and both nights of the "ppv" (excuse me, "network event" or whatever we're calling it these days) are already taped.
But yes, obviously they should have just shut everything down but Vince is insane.
So what's AEW's excuse...
Even crazier: Some of the smaller Japanese companies are running with full crowds. All Japan not only ran Korakuen Hall with 1200 people a few days ago, but also ended the longest Triple Crown title reign since 1997 with the most defenses in a reign since 2004-2005 at it.
I saw something on twitter about phil putting out feelers for working mania, could be fake news tho :trumps
Don't think that's happening.QuoteNot only did WWE not reach out to CM Punk for WrestleMania this year, Dave Meltzer said on Wrestling Observer Radio that the company is against the idea of him ever wrestling for them again. There’s apparently more bitterness from WWE toward Punk now than vice versa.
This is stemming from some of the stuff he has continued to say about the company, despite being on the Fox show. :lol
But hey, with Mania like this...Vince might get desperate. :doge
So:
EDIT: Cesaro and Asuka, who weren't officially booked in announced matches, are not on the active roster for now.
Edge vs. Orton did take place so Edge story is false. One of the Usos faced Morrison in a ladder match so that story as far as none of the four being on the show is also false.
CM Punk’s agent actually reached out to WWE about doing business together, says the Wrestling Observer Newsletter, but was shot down because Vince McMahon doesn’t ever want to work with Punk again, apparently.
There were rumors going around that Asuka, Cesaro, Edge, and Kevin Owens were pulled from WrestleMania 36 but they all worked the show as scheduled, per the Observer.
According to PW Insider, Murphy was supposed to be on Monday Night Raw this past week but he wasn’t cleared for the show.
Insider also says WWE is scheduled to resume TV tapings on April 10 and all tapings for the month of April are scheduled for the Performance Center with all live events still canceled.
The Observer notes WWE has made the decision not to use Akam while Rezar is out injured.
https://twitter.com/garrettkidney/status/1234606571889577992
https://twitter.com/ryansatin/status/1244458299610689536
Kenny Omega seems to have a death wish and he wishes that death to happen on one of these quarantined shows for some reason :what
Meltzer also mentioned that Kenny Omega was dealing with a torn labrum and his shoulder is “all messed up.”https://www.cagesideseats.com/2020/4/3/21206494/rumor-roundup-april-3-2020-gronkowski-role-wrestlemania-36-money-in-the-bank-kenny-omega-injury
God Damn Sasha's outfit tonight. :lawd
When did Cesaro get a new theme? It’s awful.
These guys are killing each other in front of no people.
Talk shit about Reigns being forced on everyone but Rollins is the bigger offender. Mostly because he actively participates in making himself insufferable. Even when he’s supposed to be a babyface.
little upset we got no limp bizkit
What is that lump on Takers arm?
Both are terrible
tbf the Matt Hardy stuff was also intentionally so bad it's good, but the Boneyard match seemed to play it completely straight which is bad in the other direction.
The Firefly Fun House match could be the best worst thing of all time or the actual worst thing of all time based on other Bray gimmick matches
This pre-show match is like one of those weird soft core pornos the indie wrestlers make.
The yelling is honestly ruining this match.
Not all of them.
This is exceptionally worse.
Nah, that added to it because he sounded like Clint Eastwood in Gran Torino.
None of the matches yesterday were as bad as this one. The entire internet is popping off about the yelling.
Tommy End used to have a real quality porn tumblr.
Dolph was world champion once.
What happened to The Revival? They leave WWE?
Is Nia Jax also gone? Last I recall she like walked out?
I watched the Benoit Vice doc...
surely I'm not the only on that picked up on the implication that he had raped Nancy or otherwise did something to injure her sexually? Like....her sister said she wouldn't go into the details about the incident other than he hurt her, but didn't know if it was an accident or not, but wouldn't get into the details out of respect for his remaining family. Surely that can only be some weird sex thing right?
:jeanluc
That entire thing was worth it only for Titus and his incredible gif
I watched the Benoit Vice doc...
surely I'm not the only on that picked up on the implication that he had raped Nancy or otherwise did something to injure her sexually? Like....her sister said she wouldn't go into the details about the incident other than he hurt her, but didn't know if it was an accident or not, but wouldn't get into the details out of respect for his remaining family. Surely that can only be some weird sex thing right?
:jeanluc
What made you think that? I watched it but I thought he beat her up
Well, because she freely talked about Sullivan hitting her, and all the details of the murder were given in explicit detail, but she didn't want to go into the detail of this one particular incident that she didn't know was an accident or not other than her hurt her. Which to me sounds like a sex thing gone too far and her not wanting his other kids to know he was rapist or something on top of a murderer.
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https://www.reddit.com/r/SquaredCircle/comments/fw2wig/the_firefly_funhouse_was_great_but_im_not_sure/
:dead
Idk it wasn't as weird as I thought, I guess I was acclimated from the first night though. Certainly didn't feel like WM on any level of course.
I can't wait to get all the details about the making of Boneyard/Funhouse matches because neither seemed to have any Vince input, particularly the Funhouse since I mean....obviously. Interested in who was responsible for what, if Vince really just gave Bray a clean slate to do whatever the fuck he wanted and how he reacted to the THQ era SvR video game storyline, Cena's thoughts, etc.
The only details I've seen on either were that the NXT crew did the Boneyard match and Raw/SD crew did the Funhouse...thing.
WhatCulture has a report with even more tidbits about Taker vs. Styles:
Filming took place in Florida, but not “anywhere near the Performance Center” in Orlando.
WWE contracted an outside production company to build a graveyard set for a promo, but Haitch and Hayes were so impressed by the work they hired them to build out everything we saw during the match.
The set took five days to build.
It was an eight hour shoot, done from 9 p.m. Eastern on Weds., Mar. 25 until 5 a.m. Eastern on Thurs., Mar. 26.
Clean-up after filming took an entire week.
The company “deliberately” hired contractors from the Orange County area where the PC is. WhatCulture reports many of the workers believe it’s the only work they may be getting for a while due to the coronavirus outbreak, and it’s “no exaggeration to state that WWE paid their rent for April”.
WWE originally want to film Taker driving through an embankment and across an abandoned bridge for his entrance, but had to scrap plans as it was city property and they didn’t have the necessary permits.
The extras playing druids (WhatCulture isn’t clear, but it almost sounds like they were the same guys doing set construction) were coached up by AJ, Taker, Karl Anderson & Luke Gallows. The wrestlers never got impatient, and took as much time as the extras wanted or needed to do what asked of them (get beat up by the Badass).
As a long-time Biker Taker mark, this is my favorite one... all the dialogue was improvised. Which just goes to show you that Mean Mark is one of the all-time great $#!+-talkers.*
Undertaker was not supposed to cut his arm when he smashed the hearse window. Even the glass breaking only happened because he wanted to try re-shooting that moment from a different angle. The producers debated editing it out, but ended up running with and liking what it added.
Hunter & Hayes found a fake hand prop on the set and wanted to use it, but didn’t have an idea for it. Taker is the one who suggested using it after he buried AJ, as a callback to his Buried Alive match with Mankind at 1996’s In Your House 11.
Former NXT champion Rhea Ripley has gone back to Australia and won't be on NXT TV this week, reports pwinsider.com. Ripley was forced to return to her home country as her work visa recently expired and she needs to go back there to initiate the process to renew it. With travel bans down all over the world and both Australia and the United States requiring visitors/residents to self-quarantine, her return date back to North America is completely up in the air. At least, she will miss this week's TV tapings which are supposed to carry WWE through several episodes of NXT. Given these recent developments, it's fair to wonder whether Ripley dropping the NXT title to Charlotte happened due to her impending absence.:thinking
Wow that's some TNA level shit. WWE should have had that handled months ago.
that rhea visa story is just made up nonsense. :lol dirtsheets :lol
that rhea visa story is just made up nonsense. :lol dirtsheets :lol
Ripley herself spoke about needing to return to Australia to get her visa renewed while doing ‘Mania press. In those same interviews, though, she said her plans were changed by the coronavirus pandemic.
So she’s still in the States but her visa is expired or expiring. Question remain as to when exactly it expires or expired, whether WWE and the authorities have arranged for her to continue working until she can travel, and what the plan is - since there probably wasn’t a “what to do in case of global pandemic” procedure in place until very recently, if at all.
these ladies murdering each other in a room with 6 people :lawdspoiler (click to show/hide)io vs charlotte :leon[close]
There's only been one release in like 5 years that didn't get best of luck in their future endeavors but I can't remember who it was. Enzo maybe?
WWE has come to terms on the release of Eric Arndt (Enzo Amore).
tbf from what i've seen the revival seem to have burned most of their goodwill will alot of online fans, but i don't look into the aew cult so take that with a grain of salt
The Rebirth might be a better name. Be interesting to see what they go with, but I wager that they'll end up better known by the name they pick in AEW than they were as WWE main roster guys.
the best they could have been in aew is if they brought in :cornette as their manager to get mega heat, he even said he'd do it but that bridge is burnt now :lol
haha freed during the plague so they literally can't work anywhere.meltz said a week or two ago that both their guarantees had been paid out completely so with no house shows and tv being pre-taped they weren't making anything while staying with wwe either. at least now they can sell tshirts or something, or sign another contract with aew :doge
WWE: “We’ll do it live!”https://www.reddit.com/r/SquaredCircle/comments/fz7l1o/wor_news_and_notes_41120/
Original plan: Yesterday WWE was suppose to tape five weeks of Smackdown and on Monday they were to tape five weeks of RAW. However Dave was specifically told: “That is the plan until Vince changes his mind.”
Last night Vince changed his mind. As the talent will be going to the PC every Monday, Wednesday, and Friday to be live on their respective shows. How is WWE getting away with this in Florida, a shutdown state? “It doesn’t matter.” -Dave
WWE and USA has an angle in their contract where there must be a set number of taped shows a year. (Dave isn’t 100% sure on FOX’s deal but believes there is something similar.) Dave believes Vince is concerned that, even during a pandemic, if WWE doesn’t meet the quota then it’ll give the networks an out to change (and possibly cancel) their deals. Dave believes a network would never do that in these unprecedented times, but many people higher up in WWE agrees with the decision economically.
Dave thinks FOX and USA will possibly make a decision/answer to this predicament in the coming days. And if they decide to pull an “ESPN on UFC” and cancel tapings then Vince will be stuck with less options than he has prior to this new venture.
“A WWE employee has tested positive for COVID-19. We believe this matter is low risk to WWE talent and staff, as the individual and a roommate became symptomatic in the days following exposure to two people working in acute health care on the evening of March 26, after WWE’s TV production on a closed set was already complete. The employee had no contact with anyone from WWE since being exposed to those two individuals, is doing well, and made a complete recovery.”
Yeah there's ordinances in place but apparently they're going to be able to keep doing live shows in FL from the PC anyway ???i believe its because "media" is essential and also loosely defined so wwe is taking advantage of that
Kurt Angle was also released.
:confused
Some of them may have just been "furloughed." Guess the XFL shit and current TV situation have Vince in a panic.
Kurt Angle was also released.
:confused
Some of them may have just been "furloughed." Guess the XFL shit and current TV situation have Vince in a panic.
Zack Ryder still living another daynegative, he's been added to the list. rip.
:rejoice
Rowan, the Colons, Sarah Logan added to the list
As of this writing, at least 39 people (wrestlers and employees) have been released by WWE but it looks like more releases are coming.
WrestleVotes is reporting that the expectation is that the number of people expected to be released will go into the hundreds when all is said and done. That would include people who work behind-the-scenes on the road and at company headquarters.
My brother in law; who was my legal guardian??? is that weird or is it just me?
If Roman gets the ball rolling on a union, he'll finally get the face reaction Vince could only dream of :rejoice
Wait....wait, what did I miss? lmao
How TF you gonna cut Taynara Conti?
Isn't there already a tag team called the revolt?
Dax Harwood & Cash Wheeler already have heat on the indies, per PW Insider, as Caleb Konley & Zane Riley have been calling their tag team “The Revolt” name for five years.
The Revolt Expressthe revolting express :yuck
I was gonna say flash back to when Motorhead played HHH to the ring that one time at 'mania but Lemmy either couldn't be bothered to learn the words or was just too fucking drunk to recall them but that actually happened TWICE. :lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2RnGfGtnBM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L25OLvFonj8
Lets hear these voicememos. Until otherwise, gonna assume this is a hack and BS posted on Reddit for shits and giggles.i didn't want to believe it either but
Not immediately expecting the worst out of pro wrestlers is why you're never going to be president, Joe
I know what it is like to be accused in public of something. Especially being an honorary black person.
so the accuser posted more pics of convos supposedly with dream but the pics also showed he was in a group chat named "exposing n words". :lol
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In an update, Dave Meltzer reported on Wrestling Observer Radio that Brisco was actually furloughed and not released altogether, as many Producers were back on April 15.https://www.wrestlinginc.com/news/2020/04/backstage-update-on-gerald-brisco-wwe-status-following-669725/
Brisco had been mainly scouting amateur wrestling events for the past several years, responsible for giving a look to guys such as Brock Lesnar, Jason Jordan, Chad Gable, among others. It was noted that there are currently no amateur wrestling tournaments going on right now due to the coronavirus pandemic, but Brisco could be brought back in the future because he was just furloughed.
Dutch Mantell (or Zeb Colter as he was known in WWE) tweeted to say he's heard 'directly out of Stamford' that McMahon is negotiating to sell the company to ESPN and FOX.
"HUGE NEWS: Overheard directly out of WWE Stamford is that a deal is being negotiated to sell WWE and the network to ESPN and FOX by as early as mid-May," he wrote.
During PW Insider Elite audio, Mike Johnson noted something very interesting about the TNA name.
It’s not going away because people know the TNA name and they tuned in for it in a big way. Sure the Twitterati associate the TNA name with the bad, but in reality pre-2009, TNA did a lot of good and innovative stuff and had a very loyal and hardcore following.
Impact Wrestling’s TNA event at WrestleCon was cancelled, but they aired a special on AXS TV. Those numbers were very good and the network went to Impact Wrestling to suggest that they keep using the throwback name.
“We are told the [TNA] special did way, way, way better than anybody ever hoped and AXS TV reached out to Impact Wrestling and said, ‘hey let’s do more TNA stuff there is still some value there.’ They are looking at integrating TNA back onto AXS TV in some fashion.”
It was noted that TNA will begin to integrate into Impact Wrestling programming. This will culminate into TNA becoming a much larger part in Impact Wrestling. We will have to see how far the takeover goes and if it results in a second show of sorts.
It was also noted that this is an “experiment.” It was made clear that Moose is a self-proclaimed TNA World Champion and Tessa Blanchard is the official Impact Champion. Its going to be like when Ric Flair showed up in the WWF with the WCW belt but with more possibilities.
All sporting events have been cancelled or are taking place without fans since the lockdown was imposed due to the Coronavirus pandemic. However, Florida is ready to welcome back fans at events by next week. Governor Ron DeSantis announced the guidelines for reopening the state today, which allows arenas to have a limited number of fans:
“Large spectator sporting events should use strict social distancing guidelines and limit occupancy of venues to 25 percent of building capacity.”
Events could start having fans as soon as Monday, May 4th. If WWE and AEW choose to, they can hold events with fans starting next week.
“The Big Dog” hasn’t been seen on television since then. WWE has also removed him from banners on their website
Quote“The Big Dog” hasn’t been seen on television since then. WWE has also removed him from banners on their website
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:idont
Bryan’s been on every week I think :yeshrug
LAWL. I checked their page just now and he's not on there. He is on the banner on SD but didn't seem him anywhere else (on that page). Isn't Daniel Bryan also not working? It's the same with him.he's on not on the main page cause its all show recaps and he's not on the show. click into anything and he's right there though, ex: https://www.wwe.com/superstars
I would think AEW could run episodes of Dark/stuff from Jericho cruise/BTE st yle stuff for a while before having to run live shows
is rey mysterio dead now?
Why would Bray Wyatt ever wrestle not as The Fiend? This is the same logic as Balor not always wrestling as the Demon when he's nigh invincible and unbeatable when he wears tassles and body paint.
I love that the WWE HQ gym is completely unchanged since the mid to late 80s, and the rest of Titan Towers appears to have had no renovations or upgrades beyond logos and pictures on the walls since the Attitude Era. Couldn't be more symbolic for WWE.
If they could have Brother Love and Doink show up during the match, they could have had Cornette follow it around the whole time bitching about how it was destroying wrasslin
Their Twitter has Drew as the banner and is full of Raw stuff- brand split over?probably temporarily suspended since everyone is in the same place and they are missing a bunch of folks
i forgot he calls corbin "possum" :lol
A serious problem for WWE has always been them emphasizing a certain sort of in-ring style. Safe, with a certain tone and formula - unless it's a PPV match. And even if it is a PPV match, wrestling psychology is pretty much dead there lol
It's gotten more pronounced now that they have the performance center churning out talent that all work the same way.
I simply do not understand it.
Let's look at Stone Cold Steve Austin's moveset.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbEjZTyT_qM
Every single attack hits the upper body or the spine. He's got a DDT in that moveset as well. The Stunner is great, but the stunner without this arrangement of moves doesn't sell unless they're jobbers. What makes the Stunner so devastating is Stone Cold hitting you with a spine buster and then doing an elbow drop on your fucking neck after punching the shit out of your face. So when he puts that Stunner on your back and neck are fucking DONE. A finisher is only supposed to help balance and support a move set. This is what makes a complete wrestler and helps sell a storyline inside the confines of a match.
It's a simple moveset but it has a logical sense of flow.
Despite being known for more brutal, hardcore wrestling the Attitude Era might just have overall actual better wrestling than today's spot fests.
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/ralph wiggum voice
"I like spot fests!"
I hate to break it to you, but Austin's moveset in particular was not built around psychology to set up the stunner, it was pretty much the same stuff he was doing in the early 90s but with more brawling thrown in after the neck and knee injuries. Also...the sharpshooter is primarily lower back focused, although sometimes overly portrayed as a leg hold. It's a fancy boston crab, why do you think it's a neck hold? ???
Psychology and storytelling are overused buzzwords that I think often even people in the wrestling business don't really understand. Psychology and storytelling aren't about moves. There are only a handful of in ring "stories" in pro wrestling and they're all very simple templates:
Straight wrestling contest
Good guy struggles against bad guy cheating
Good guy struggles against bigger bad guy who may or may not be cheating
Good guy out for revenge
Younger talent vs Vet
Squash matches
Spot fests
Bloodfeud
None of those except spot fests are really about the moves themselves, but the ebbs and flow of momentum swings and changes. Selling and being able to garner empathy or hatred is is more important than your moveset being built from the ground up to make your finish work better. Now, does that help? It can. Using Okada as an example, yeah his moveset is all built around moves to set up the Rainmaker, but it's the personality and passion and ebbs and flows in his matches, not that the dropkick sets up the Rainmaker but when he hits the dropkick in terms of story beats that makes it work the way it does.
I myself have shit on Ric Flair a lot in a lot of places over his shitty psychology, but he's the prime example of why "psychology" is misunderstood and bogged down in details when pro wrestling isn't about details but emotion and momentum. Basically 3 generations of people in and out of the business consider him the GOAT. But his "psychology" was trash. 90% of his offense had nothing to do with the figure four, his matches rarely ever built up to a MOVE finish, a lot of his heat segments were really pretty aimless in terms of what he was physically doing, and he frequently used his template of a match and just plugged guys into what he did.
But it always worked because 1. His personality was entertaining as a heel or a face so crowds always wanted to see him 2. His matches were built like roller coasters of the slow clicking ride up the hill (his heat segments) followed by a short burst of a steep drop or loop (the face explodes back), followed by slowing things back down to build back up for another drop or loop, followed by slowing things back down, then a sprint to an often out of control finish and halting stop. The actual moves and what they were building to didn't matter, because the psychology was just to take the audience on an up and down ride. Ricky Steamboat was also an expert at this, as his "psychology" in terms of moves was pretty scattershot (like 80% of his matches ended with roll ups or the crossbody, which were built to by...chops and arm drags, see what I mean?) but his selling and being able to take audiences on the emotional ride was far more important than the moves themselves. And that's why when you combine Ric Flair and Ricky Steamboat, you get greatness.
This is also why Terry is much better than Dory, why Hogan/Mach drew much more than HBK/Bret, why Dusty was such a big draw despite having such a bad body and not much in ring skill, why Eddie was more beloved than Benoit (pre-deaths of course), why Rey was more over than 100 other lucha dudes who did the same stuff or crazier stuff. Of course there are subdivisions for the templates and different countries have different styles, expectations, and audiences. But even in Japan, the guys who became the biggest stars from Rikidozan all the way through Okada were guys whose matches were about emotional rides as opposed to getting bogged down in every move making perfect sense and building to specific finisher. Okada's 50 step finishing stretches aren't about the moves and counters themselves, but the excitement of building to something finally hitting and ending the fight. There are a million guys that are technically perfect, all their moves make sense for their finish, but those have never been the guys to be big stars anywhere in the world no matter the style.
A serious problem for WWE has always been them emphasizing a certain sort of in-ring style. Safe, with a certain tone and formula - unless it's a PPV match. And even if it is a PPV match, wrestling psychology is pretty much dead there lol
It's gotten more pronounced now that they have the performance center churning out talent that all work the same way.
My last favorite PPV match gimmick became the whole endlessly kicking out of finishers for an "epic" match. That shit seems to be their go to for event matches and I sleep.
It was kind of like the SD/Raws immediately after 9/11 that were WE'RE HERE TO ENTERTAIN YOU IN THESE TRYING TIMES but happened to be WMpretty much exactly what prichard said on his show about wm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjjfxzBQqGM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjjfxzBQqGM
I need to start watching that show. Is it WWE focused?
Wrestlemania was worth it for the boneyard match, the rest may as well have not happened :lol
EDIT: In regards to people not giving a shit about wrasslin right now, I am at an all time low interest in watching ANY wrestling, even old classic shit. Absolutely no interest whatsoever. I checked in for WM and the MITB match but you couldn't get me to watch a wrestling show right now.
Holy shit, NWA has the best crowd lighting, belts, and feel than any other American fed right now. :oyeah power is easily my favorite show. its stopped production for now but its all on youtube for a catch up
Holy shit, NWA has the best crowd lighting, belts, and feel than any other American fed right now. :o
NWA airs 24/7 on youtube dot com baybayyyy. start it off here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aegl1dWAT_8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5H10_sZVnN4
Jim Cornette running a promo on pregnancy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5H10_sZVnN4
Jim Cornette running a promo on pregnancy.
Vince is probably low key happy Becky got pregnant so he can have an excuse to stop pushing women at the top of the card again since Becky's push was a hold over from Ronda's and it's pretty clear Ronda was getting the WM main event regardless of who she was working with. They didn't even do a second Evolution PPV while still constantly talking up how great they are pushing women now because Ronda wasn't going to work it :lolPretty convinced that Evolution was mostly a band aid for the women not being able to work the initial saudi shows.
Also both :lol but also :jeanluc and :goty that it appears his entire wardrobe is don't tread on me/thin blue line/crosses shit. No telling how many MAGA hats and shirts he has. I would almost guarantee he has an ALL LIVES MATTER shirt or hat somewhere. Definitely a wardrobe that matches up with his repeated donations to Ted fucking Cruz :pacspit
If you ignore the domestic abuse stuff ya probably
You will NOT talk shit about 3rd degree Mongrovian Kara-TAY black belt Aron "Shooter" Stevens, ma'amthat's not til season 2 iirc so she's not there yet. after episode 10 and with the addition of the new announcer the feel of the show changes, but in a better way i think. they learned a lot from that first set of shows and the whole promotion gets a bit of an upgrade from it.
We have confirmed with multiple sources today that Gulak's WWE contract expired after last night's Smackdown was taped. We are told the two sides had been discussing a new deal, but had not yet come to terms on the deal before Gulak's existing deal expired. This shockingly places Gulak on the open market just hours after one of his best WWE performances to date as he would have no 90-day non-compete as WWE would not be paying him going forward, which means he can appear and wrestle anywhere immediately.https://www.pwinsider.com/article/136464/shocking-departure-from-wwe.html?p=1
TNA isn't operating?iirc they pretaped a couple months of tv and haven't done much since
austin theory is a seth dude now? :leon
Also both :lol but also :jeanluc and :goty that it appears his entire wardrobe is don't tread on me/thin blue line/crosses shit. No telling how many MAGA hats and shirts he has. I would almost guarantee he has an ALL LIVES MATTER shirt or hat somewhere. Definitely a wardrobe that matches up with his repeated donations to Ted fucking Cruz :pacspit
Former WWE Superstar Shad Gaspard is the subject of a massive ongoing search after he went missing following a swim he and his 10-year-old son went on during the day on Sunday in Venice Beach, California.
According to multiple sources, Gaspard and his son were among a group of people caught in a strong rip-current at approximately 4pm, leading to lifeguards racing to the scene to pull everyone out.
While Gaspard's son was luckily rescued, the longtime pro wrestling star has not yet been found.
Are you sure you're not just psyched on having some 'new' wrestling to watch with a crowd?
What the fuck happened to him
Does he say he grew up without a father figure and that's why he'll literally die in the ring for Vince?that would explain why it sounded like he loved Vince even more than his own wife 😂
Wrestling Observer Radio has updates on Britt Baker, Matt Jackson and Rey Fenix after last night’s episode of AEW Dynamite, who all appeared to get hurt.
Fenix appeared to hurt his hip after diving to the outside onto a group of wrestlers following his match with Orange Cassidy. According to Bryan Alvarez, Fenix is ‘banged up’ and ‘hurting’ but will likely still compete in the Casino Ladder match on Saturday at Double or Nothing.
Baker, meanwhile, was seen clutching her knee during a tag match in which Kris Statlander and Hikaru Shida slammed Nyla Rose onto her. Rose landed with all of her weight on Baker’s right knee, which was bent at the time. She is current scheduled to face Statlander on Saturday, but it was noted that she has to get evaluated by a doctor today and it looks like ‘a pretty serious knee injury’.
Finally, there was Matt Jackson, who did a dive off of a wall in the stadium with his brother Nick onto the Inner Circle. It’s believed that Jackson suffered some sort of rib injury as a result, either a bruise, torn cartilage or a break. He took shots to the ribs after that but was visibly in pain as the show went off the air. He is currently scheduled to be a part of the Stadium Stampede match at Saturday’s event. He will also get checked out today.
i think the only way people will stop doing the diving headbutt is is someone snaps their neck in the ring doing it tbh, the only thing i can think of that wrestlers have chilled out on is unprotected chair shots
you've got fuckers still taking head drops all the time a decade since misawa died in the ring
Watched Dark Side of the Ring's Chris Benoit episode.
There's a sobering section of the episode where it highlights the flying headbutt that was such a staple in Benoit's moveset. It continues,"Harvey Race created it [the flying headbutt] and said not to use it because it hurt your spine and would prevent you enjoying an old age. Dynamite Kid uses it and winds up in a wheelchair. Chris Benoit uses it and loses his mind."
Then I thought to Daniel Bryan who, even after coming out of retirement for concussion related issues, still does the move.
At this point, Daniel's fate could very well be sealed. I quit watching wrestling because of his retirement. I couldn't enjoy watching these men and women I look up to continue to do this to themselves. The CM Punk interview with Colt Cabana and the poor medical treatment of the workers (Punk being given a Z pack while having a staph infection) helped reinforce that decision. So when Bryan hung it up, so did I. Years later I see Bryan's back to it, still doing flying headbutts and suicide dives.
What was it all for? Daniel Bryan is a tragedy waiting to happen.
Oh Bryan is definitely fucked in his later years. Even before heading to WWE (which is 10 years now), he had at LEAST 20 documented concussions and surely more than that and multiple in between then and the first time he went on the IR list for the neck issue, and one of his first matches back from that, he had Harper drop him directly on top of his head to "test out" his neck, continued doing the diving headbutt, ADDED a rapid headbutt spot that got him and Dolph fucked up. So then he is forced to retire due to concussion stuff up to and including seizures and since he's returned he's had at least 2 more concussions and continues to do the diving headbutt.
He broke self quarantine with a toddler and a pregnant wife to wrestle Drew Gulak and Cesaro in an empty gym
He broke self quarantine with a toddler and a pregnant wife to wrestle Drew Gulak and Cesaro in an empty gym
He's an addict. I love him, he's safer than he was before his first "retirement," and he's better off performing in WWE than the indies or AEW, but he's absolutely an addict. He'll do this as long as he's allowed to. Supposedly he's retiring after his next contract is done but I don't believe that shit for a minute.
He's my favorite current wrestler (and my pick for best in the wooooooooorld currently working) but yeah, dude is fucking insane.
Cindy, I know you weren't watching at this point, if you have access to the Network, watch his match with Bork Laser from Survivor Series 2018. He's so goddamn good.
He's an addict. I love him, he's safer than he was before his first "retirement," and he's better off performing in WWE than the indies or AEW, but he's absolutely an addict. He'll do this as long as he's allowed to. Supposedly he's retiring after his next contract is done but I don't believe that shit for a minute.
He's my favorite current wrestler (and my pick for best in the wooooooooorld currently working) but yeah, dude is fucking insane.
Cindy, I know you weren't watching at this point, if you have access to the Network, watch his match with Bork Laser from Survivor Series 2018. He's so goddamn good.
AEW Injury update:Trashing 3 of your big wrestlers the week before a ppv, for a weekly show infront of an empty stadium :|QuoteWrestling Observer Radio has updates on Britt Baker, Matt Jackson and Rey Fenix after last night’s episode of AEW Dynamite, who all appeared to get hurt.
Fenix appeared to hurt his hip after diving to the outside onto a group of wrestlers following his match with Orange Cassidy. According to Bryan Alvarez, Fenix is ‘banged up’ and ‘hurting’ but will likely still compete in the Casino Ladder match on Saturday at Double or Nothing.
Baker, meanwhile, was seen clutching her knee during a tag match in which Kris Statlander and Hikaru Shida slammed Nyla Rose onto her. Rose landed with all of her weight on Baker’s right knee, which was bent at the time. She is current scheduled to face Statlander on Saturday, but it was noted that she has to get evaluated by a doctor today and it looks like ‘a pretty serious knee injury’.
Finally, there was Matt Jackson, who did a dive off of a wall in the stadium with his brother Nick onto the Inner Circle. It’s believed that Jackson suffered some sort of rib injury as a result, either a bruise, torn cartilage or a break. He took shots to the ribs after that but was visibly in pain as the show went off the air. He is currently scheduled to be a part of the Stadium Stampede match at Saturday’s event. He will also get checked out today.
https://twitter.com/411mania/status/1263485787888205863
From wrestling fans?
whatever happened w/ the thing w/ Dream sending dick pics to underage girls
https://twitter.com/we_are_stardom/status/1264045951607386113
Apparently committed suicide from cyber-bullying. :(
Has Ambrose improved since going to AEW? His wrestling ability was limited and his matches boring for a while in WWE.
No. He was much better at the start of his NJ run but half way through the G1 got another staph infection and since then has been the same or worse than he was the last 2 years of WWE. The only times he's perked up in AEW is when he got to do full blown CZW shit a couple of times and otherwise seems like he's bored and phoning it in like he had been in WWE for 2-3 years. Especially notable because his energy level is completely different and very evident that he enjoys working NJ/Japan in general more than AEW/US and he's only had like 4 NJ matches since AEW started TV.
how long have they been doing this hockey wall thing
Man Double or Nothing seems to be getting crazy high praise and I thought it was a slog and every match was a struggle to get through. I haven't felt this far out on an island on a show in a long time.
is luv getting repackaged again?
Man Double or Nothing seems to be getting crazy high praise and I thought it was a slog and every match was a struggle to get through. I haven't felt this far out on an island on a show in a long time.
Most of the show got mixed reviews (from "this was just kinda there" to "this was pretty good") but other than you everyone I've heard from had universal praise for the Stadium Stampede shenanigans.
My issue with it was they didn't go far enough with wild and silly shit. The Hardys did something more creative and entertaining in their backyard with no budget. So here are 10 minds, unlimited budget, unlimited possibilities in a unique setting and 90% of it was just a normal Attitude Era hardcore match brawl.
Seems like Riddle is going to smackdown.
:lol that might be record time for a Cindi 180They're FTR now
EDIT: Apparently The Revival showed up at AEW last night? :leon
Been trying to get WWE 2K20 to run
Jaxson Ryker
One-half of the Forgotten Sons tag team
:money
-- As per a report from wrestlinginc.com, NXT Champion Adam Cole's contract with WWE is set to expire in August of this year and he has yet to agree to terms on a new deal. While negotiations are ongoing, Cole's services would be assumed to be of great interest to AEW as he was a member of the Bullet Club with the Young Bucks, Kenny Omega and Adam Page while his girlfriend is Britt Baker, one of AEW's top stars. Baker has actually went public with the fact that she hopes that Cole can one day share the same ring with his Bullet Club "family."
-- This report adds that if Cole decides to re-sign with WWE, it would be for significantly more money than he is earning right now and if that happens, he would almost surely be destined for the main roster soon thereafter in the fall time frame. If Cole decides to decline all of WWE's offers, he would become a free agent and be eligible to work any events, including AEW's All Out, in September.
Wrestling Inc confirmed that there are discussions about bringing Io Shirai and Velveteen Dream up to the main roster from NXT.
-- With WWE launching a new "free tier" for the WWE Network earlier this week, the 30-day free trial that was offered to potential new customers is gone. The wording when subscribing now reads: "WWE Network subscriptions are billed in advance and recur monthly. Billing starts on the date you subscribe or reactivate your account subscription, and re-bill on the same day each month until cancellation." The new free tier - which includes recent episodes of WWE TV as well as select PPVs and specials - essentially replaces the free month and is meant to promote the network and potentially convert those customers into paying ones.
-- While the free month for new subscribers has been scrapped for now, it seems the company is reserving the right to bring it back during "high traffic times" such as before WrestleMania, according to f4wonline.com. This would allow WWE to try to pump up subscriber numbers during their most important quarter and report those figures during the Q1 conference call that normally takes place in April.
They did a promo for this Sunday's PPV that is a remake of the In Your House game intro. :lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_AWpj5GZgU
The original:spoiler (click to show/hide)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B03oh27KuHs[close]
aew banning linda is like me banning her from my house, its highly unlikely she would ever go anyway :lol
Charlotte not taking the fall :rollsafe
Actually the optics of this whole thing, I hope they filmed this 2 weeks ago or something
Andrade needs to knock Charlotte up so she can get tf off tv.
Im tired of her
This takeover sucks, brehs
The current social climate in the United States has a hot topic among people over the last few weeks as change needs to be made. Various WWE stars have come out to talk about the Black Lives Matter movement.https://wrestlingnews.co/wwe-news/wwe-hall-of-famer-involved-in-heated-debate-backstage-at-nxt-takeover-in-your-house/
Sean Ross Sapp of Fightful Select reports that WWE Hall of Famer and NXT agent Shawn Michaels “was in a heated debate” at NXT Takeover In Your House ahead of the show on Sunday night in Winter Park, Florida at Full Sail University.
Per the report, the legendary pro wrestler was discussing the current social climate with another producer. This is when the other producer mentioned that everyone already gets treated the same.
It was noted that the statement didn’t go over well with Michaels, who proceeded to break down systematic prejudice and inequality to the person. He did so in “a very heated discussion.”
According to the report, the argument made its way back to multiple wrestlers the following day. However, Michaels was said to be a “professional” and worked with the person even after the argument went down.
- According to a report by Gary Cassidy of Sportskeeda, WWE is set to go ahead with a "controversial" storyline this Friday on Smackdown that will include Jeff Hardy and Sheamus as they build towards Sunday's match at Backlash.
-- Cassidy notes that a contract signing segment will air which will be interrupted by a "man in a lab coat and four security guards." Hardy will then accuse Sheamus of trying to "ruin his life" while the latter will look to seek "assurances" ahead of their match by demanding that Jeff undergo a urine test since he refuses to wrestle against a "junkie" and under the assumption that Jeff will not be able to pass the test. The segment then continues until Jeff loses control and throws the urine sample on Sheamus' face.
I noted earlier that it was Vince McMahon’s decision to remove Paul Heyman from his role as the head of creative for Monday Night Raw.
This came after frustration with the declining ratings as Heyman was trying to build for the future while SmackDown was seen as a show that was more in line with McMahon’s creative vision.
And yet apparently still in charge, ultimately.
If only there was some other parallel situation we could compare it to and see that it would end poorly!
:trumps
Last week, CM Punk used his platform on Twitter to take a shot at AJ Styles for not voicing support for the Black Lives Matter movement. The tweet is deleted now, but Punk said that it’s been “obvious for years” that Styles would respond in that manner.
Punk then followed it up with this tweet, which doesn’t mention Styles by name, but the implication is clear:
https://twitter.com/CMPunk/status/1268971886735695873
Speaking of people saying ridiculous and stupid things, Randy Orton confirmed on Corey Graves’ After the Bell podcast today that AJ Styles is indeed a flat Earther:Quote“AJ is a flat Earther. He thinks the Earth’s flat. And I know that’s just a really comical topic to talk about, and I give him shit about it, and he hates it.”
“No, it’s not a rib, he thinks the Earth’s flat.”
Backlash is pretty :zzz so far.
Backlash is pretty :zzz so far.
Didn't think it was possible for Asuka to have a bad match, but there you go. Nia Jax is awful and that crappy ending ensures a rematch.
Not at all interested in Blandy Boreton and the world's greatest wrestling match.
Also, Jeff Hardy's ears are gross. Don't anyone bother trying to explain the allure of mutilating yourself like that.
30 minutes of Edge vs Orton in literally any year sounds like snoozeplex city, bitch
Is it just me, or are they piping in audience reactions/crowd noise into the Edge/Orton match? It sounds like there's suddenly way more people watching.
So was it the greatest wrestling match ever or not
One of the audience members/trainees at the PC tested positive for 'rona on June 9th.
WWE didn't let the talent know until yesterday. At the same time they put out a press release. After taping multiple shows. After bringing in 71 year old, in poor health Ric Flair to the PC. And they told all of the crowd members they couldn't wear masks and if they did to not show up. Some talent found out in the middle of live streams. From fans in the chat.
:what
We all know how Benoit's story ended. It was tragic. We're not here to dispute that fact, or glorify his death. I know there are conspiracy theories, and have been since his death, that he was murdered and it was a frame job. I know many feel that all Nancy had to do was tapout.
Chris Benoit had one of the most storied careers in wrestling history, has held more titles than many other Hall of Fame entrants, and has fought against or with almost every notable name in the industry from the last quarter century.
It's time to let Benoit into the Hall of Fame
Those three days were the definition of tragedy. No one disputes that.
But 3 days out of 14,644 should not erase the other 14,641 days.
Benoit deserves a spot in the WWE Hall of Fame.
The Hall of Fame, home to celebrities and wrestlers who were never even legendary beyond simple nostalgia, is rife with murderers, abusers, and other criminals. So why not Chris Benoit?
Okay, I see your point. But Kobe raped a woman--should the world not have mourned his loss and held countless memorials? MLK cheated on his wife--should we rename MLK Boulevard to something else? Gandhi was racist--should his legacy be erased? So was Stone Cold, Hulk Hogan, Ric Flair, Vince McMahon, many others. Yet they're all, excluding McMahon, heralded as legends. It applies to so many sports icons out there. it's a double standard--people want to erase Benoit, but others don't have that fate. See my point?
Hogan WAS erased for a bit. And he didn't murder his wife and son.
Kobe was found not guillty of raping that woman. Murder vs a not guilty charge hmmmm?
Chris Benoit was not found guilty in a court of law, either. Doesn't mean it didn't happen hmmmm?
If any of the names you mentioned murdered their wife and child (and then themselves), 100% absolutely they should be erased. If someone thinks Benoit can murder their family member and they can "compartmentalize it" maybe they care about wrestling a little too much. Maybe that person should analyze how much they actually like/love their family compared to entertainment.
"There are murderers and rapists in the HOF so why not Benoit" is actually the most valid argument, which says everything about how horrible the HOF is.
Many other WWE Legends have been inducted despite horrible vices and crimes. Jimmy "Superfly" Snuka, was indicted and arrested for the murder of his girlfriend in 1983 (due to dementia, which should be noted is what Benoit was suffering from at the end of his life, he was found unfit to be held for trial). Ric Flair is a notorious alcoholic, womanizer, and rumors have persisted of domestic violence for decades and was involved in road rage incidents in the 90's. Steve Austin, one of the biggest names in WWE history, was a known racist (he keyed "congratulations, *RACIAL SLUR HERE*" on Ahmed Johnson's rental car after Ahmed won the IC title) and has a record for beating his then-girlfriend Tess Broussard as well as his ex, Debra. Beloved Booker T spent almost two years in jail for the armed robbery of a Wendy's in his youth. Future hall of famers the Hardyz have been plagued with domestic violence (Matt) and multiple arrests for DUI (Jeff). Hall of Famer Verne Gagne body slammed a 97-year-old man in the nursing home they lived in; the injuries led to the victim's death--but Verne Gagne was never prosecuted due to dementia. Sunny, aka Tammy Lynn Sytch, who was a blonde bombshell during the Diva's era and was inducted into the HoF in 2011, has been arrested nearly a dozen times--including five times in a four week period--for various crimes, ranging from burglary, assault and DUI. Two-time Hall of Fame inductee Scott Hall murdered a man while working as a bouncer in an Orlando nightclub.
Yeah in self defence, he talks about it on his wwf doc that’s probably on the network
Hall was a bouncer and a guy at the bar got turned down by a woman and caused a scene and got....bounced. He then went out and broke all the windows out of Hall's car. Hall confronted him, the guy pulled a gun, the gun went off and the guy ended up dead.
It is what led to Hall becoming an alcoholic.
If ol' Jimmy could get away with that for so long, I no longer doubt any of the "bear skin rug" stories :dogeIs vince a top or a bottom?
Matt Riddle, Jack Swagger, Jack Gallagher, Sheamus named in #speakingout
:kobeyuck What the fuck..
The allegations by this independent female performer are completely false and another attempt to harass and humiliate Mr. and Mrs. Riddle and to try to tarnish their reputation in the community.
We have been aware for the last two years of this performer stalking the Riddle family.
In 2019, our firm had drafted a pleading against this performer to seek an injunction for cyberstalking in the Circuit Court for Orange County, Florida.
Jack Gallahger has been fired. Didn't even get best of luck in his future endeavors.
Matt Riddle's attorney:QuoteThe allegations by this independent female performer are completely false and another attempt to harass and humiliate Mr. and Mrs. Riddle and to try to tarnish their reputation in the community.
We have been aware for the last two years of this performer stalking the Riddle family.
In 2019, our firm had drafted a pleading against this performer to seek an injunction for cyberstalking in the Circuit Court for Orange County, Florida.
Seems to be a different situation with Riddle if this has been going on for a couple of years and his attorney is all over it- WWE seems to think so, since he's still being prominently-featured on Smackdown and the first half of the show was a segment/match with him and AJ- He went over and won.
Seems to be a different situation with Riddle if this has been going on for a couple of years and his attorney is all over it- WWE seems to think so, since he's still being prominently-featured on Smackdown and the first half of the show was a segment/match with him and AJ- He went over and won.
Tonight's ep of Smackdown was filmed last week and the Smackdown didn't have time to film this week due to what happened with the positive COVID-19 test and having to test the entire company.
He also said some racist stuff in that interview. Then liked a tweet defending him as it was just a joke bro he just thought she was super hot, then unliked it and posted an apology :lol
Go turn on a random 2002 Raw/SD and literally almost every interaction between a male and female is blatant sexual harassment, physical intimidation, or physical assault.
Now, generally it's from heels and is portrayed as scummy, but HHH spends 2 months trying to beat up Stephanie every show and gets cheered for it every time he gets his hands on her. Vince is a creep for picking Stacy as his personal secretary because she's hot and shows him her vag while table dancing for him in the middle of the ring after he dismissed multiple other women for not being attractive enough to be his secretary, but the same week, still face Ric Flair randomly books Trish and Terri in a bikini paddle on a pole match. Of course, both segments were cheered. All of the faces always try to get Torrie naked and then her whole angle is being emotionally/verbally/possibly physically abused by Tajiri.
Earlier today, John Ourand of the Sports Business Journal tweeted that FS1 was going to be "scaling back product" on WWE shoulder programming, which would mean WWE Backstage as far as wrestling goes. Ourand claimed that Backstage wouldn't be produced weekly but stopped short in saying that FS1 was pulling the plug entirely. However, a report from pwinsider.com states that FOX officials met this afternoon and informed everyone involved in the program that the series was done in its "current format." Those who were working on Backstage are of the belief that it's been canceled (except perhaps for a special episode here and there) and pro wrestling reporter Ryan Satin even tweeted a 'thank you' to everyone he worked with. While Renee Young is under contract to WWE, CM Punk's future in wrestling is unclear as he has no agreement in any form with WWE and was signed by FOX. In fact, WWE even stopped advertising Punk's Backstage appearances several months ago.
Vikings and Profits continue to be wholesome entertaining content
imma need the E to sign Anna Jay asap
https://www.instagram.com/annajay____/
Charlotte Flair is out after having surgery for... something.
Charlotte Flair is out after having surgery for... something.
needs moar tiddies I guess
what are you implying, mate ;)
The good news is that there will be enough excommunicated guys to start their own deplorable wrestling fed, so filler can have something to watch:cornette
The good news is that there will be enough excommunicated guys to start their own deplorable wrestling fed, so filler can have something to watch
Jon Moxley pulled from AEW tonight due to possible exposure
tna fired tessa blanchard :lol :lol :lol
they must have finally come across the shit tape :doge
The NYPost.com reported the following on Wednesday with a claim from former WWE Superstar Terri Runnels regarding "The Beast Incarnate."
I don’t have a lot of respect for Brock, I don’t think Brock respects wrestling fans. Brock did something that if it was in today’s day and time …
He showed his penis to me and called my name as I was walking past where he was in the dressing room and opened his towel so I could see his manly bits. I would have much rather him not be so disrespectful of a female that’s been in this business for as long as I have been.
He knew he was gonna have a lot of power, that they were gonna give him the strap but at that point, I’d been in this business a long time. I have respect and what he did was very, very wrong. From a respect standpoint, from a sexual harassment standpoint, it was wrong.
Gary Cassidy of sportskeeda.com reports that newly promoted Smackdown superstar Matt Riddle's first feud on the blue brand will be against King Corbin and the latter is not especially happy about it. While this plan has been in motion for months dating back to the Survivor Series where the two interacted and again at the Royal Rumble, it appears WWE only informed Corbin of the upcoming storyline recently, prompting him to insist that Riddle defeat "five enhancement talent" before facing him.
Charlotte Flair was recently written out of WWE storylines after losing to Asuka and being attacked by Nia Jax. While WWE has played this up as a legitimate injury, news came out that she was actually undergoing elective surgery and would be out for anywhere between 6-8 weeks, however, a later report then claimed that Flair would be sidelined even longer, perhaps even until 2021 with a "zero" percent chance of returning for SummerSlam. Speaking on Sport Hiatus, Charlotte clarified her status:
“I’ll only be gone for a few weeks. They can still play things on the WWE Network but utilizing my social media will be most important while I’m gone.
With WWE, there are so many things that I’m part of. I’m part of an organization called ‘Girl Up’ where I’m able to stream live from my social media—no one is going to miss me. They’re still going to feel like I’m there is basically what I’m saying. I’m gone but I’m not really gone.”
QuoteGary Cassidy of sportskeeda.com reports that newly promoted Smackdown superstar Matt Riddle's first feud on the blue brand will be against King Corbin and the latter is not especially happy about it. While this plan has been in motion for months dating back to the Survivor Series where the two interacted and again at the Royal Rumble, it appears WWE only informed Corbin of the upcoming storyline recently, prompting him to insist that Riddle defeat "five enhancement talent" before facing him.
:foodcourt
QuoteCharlotte Flair was recently written out of WWE storylines after losing to Asuka and being attacked by Nia Jax. While WWE has played this up as a legitimate injury, news came out that she was actually undergoing elective surgery and would be out for anywhere between 6-8 weeks, however, a later report then claimed that Flair would be sidelined even longer, perhaps even until 2021 with a "zero" percent chance of returning for SummerSlam. Speaking on Sport Hiatus, Charlotte clarified her status:
“I’ll only be gone for a few weeks. They can still play things on the WWE Network but utilizing my social media will be most important while I’m gone.
With WWE, there are so many things that I’m part of. I’m part of an organization called ‘Girl Up’ where I’m able to stream live from my social media—no one is going to miss me. They’re still going to feel like I’m there is basically what I’m saying. I’m gone but I’m not really gone.”
Report: Karl Anderson & Luke Gallows To IMPACT Wrestling ‘Pretty Much A Done Deal’
Luke Gallows & Karl Anderson Reportedly Starting Their Own Wrestling Promotion
During the Living The Gimmick: A Pro Wrestling Podcast, it was revealed that Luke Gallows and Karl Anderson are likely in the process of opening their own pro wrestling promotion on the side. They have also reportedly recorded content for this venture as well.
Anderson and Gallows trademarked with Southpaw Wrestling names, and they have been working hard at recording content for their Patreon as well.
Where are TNA getting their money from
WWE Superstar Kane, in his other guise as Mayor Glenn Jacobs of Knox County, TN, cast the only dissenting vote when the Board of Health acted to require face masks in most public buildings to curb the spread of coronavirus (COVID-19).
"Knox County Board of Health votes 7-1 to mandate a mask ordinance for anyone inside certain buildings," WVLT-TV sports reporter Zack Rickens tweeted. "Mayor Jacobs is the only nay. Board will re-evaluate the order at its next meeting."
There are rumors the Lee/Cole match is being reshot or at least the finish changed because one of the NXT dudes posted a picture of the finish on their social media :lol :lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yFsqRtMlFx0
this looks like shid :hhh
If it plays like All Stars it's gonna be rad.
OC vs Jericho got a ton of hype and push and it was boring as fuck.Indeed, it was quite a letdown. I don't know what happened..
https://twitter.com/MsCharlotteWWE/status/1282452553964249089
Hey, who's ready for family friendly entertainment with Seth Rollins and Rey Mysterio?
Riddick: Our response to COVID has been highlighted by our tremendous creativity. Importantly, we adapted our business to continue to safely stage in-ring performances, produce other content for our global markets, and multiple distribution channels, as well as to market our brands. Supporting these achievements, we established extensive safety measures to protect the health and well-being of our talent and employees.
To mitigate the potential risk to our performers, we evaluated our operations and cost structure and developed extensive contingency plans. As a result we implemented a comprehensive mix of various short-term cost reductions and cash flow improvement actions. These included reducing executive and board member compensation, increasing operating expenses, third-party staffing, consulting, and talent costs, and reducing employee head count by way of a furlough.
An important outcome of our efforts is that we have been able to substantially offset the loss of live event ticket revenue and merchandise revenue with lower production costs and reduction in other expenses. To enhance liquidity we also deferred spending on our new headquarters, directly reducing 2020 capital expenditures by approximately $140 million. We temporarily suspended the repurchase of stock under our repurchase program, and withdrew $200 million from our revolving credit facility in early April. As such we believe we have sufficient liquidity, which totaled approximately $500 million at the end of the first quarter, to manage the challenges ahead.
Paul Levesque: Thank you, Michael. Obviously, as Vince mentioned earlier, the health and safety of our performers, employees, and crew are the company’s top priorities. And since the beginning of this around mid-March we have been producing content on closed sets with only essential personnel in attendance and following guidelines set forth by our medical team in conjunction with state and local officials and the CDC. The protocol for these closed sets are extraordinary and include heightened safety and sanitizing during use, long duration electrostatic and anti-microbial sprays and coatings, pandemic level cleanings, and disinfecting between and after our events.
As it relates to our talent, production, crew, and employees, we conduct COVID-19 testing in advance of any TV or content production, using polymerase chain reaction, or PCR, testing, which is the most statistically valid, highest level of accuracy test available today. No one is allowed to enter a WWE closed set without a negative COVID-19 test. Once on set individuals must wear masks when talent are not performing social distancing and sanitize where appropriate. In the event of a positive test result, individuals must self-quarantine for a minimum of 14 days, will not be cleared to work until they are symptom-free and test negative. Extensive contact tracing is done following any positive test. Individuals possibly exposed are identified in quarantine appropriately.
And this process is constantly being updated. We’re looking at this every day. Our medical staff working with state and local officials, as I mentioned, and the CDC, to reflect the most current data and medical recommendations available.
*Brandon’s note: WWE began testing in late June, after multiple people who were present at the Performance Center contracted the virus.
Nia Snax
:lol
AEW is doing a women's tag tournament on youtube (not on Dark, not on Dynamite, a separate thing) and among the people they've hired is Taynara ( who is teaming with Anna Jay :mouf ) and.....Cameron. From the Funkadactyls. The one who tried to pin someone laying on their stomach.
:what
https://twitter.com/ToBeMiro/status/1290385907858542592
:money
You're telling me Shawn Michaels wasn't the crazy one in that tag team?
I think that was obvious a long ass time ago.
What's fucking wild is he was penciled in to beat Bryan for the title at WM last year, but got an injury that only kept him out of action for like 2 weeks and instead they went with Kofi and Vince just...dropped Ali entirely. Went from "I'm putting the title on this guy at WM" to being in the Andre battle royale on the pre-show to being in a random thrown together tag team with SHORTY G by the end of the year to this year having all of 3 televised matches. Shame, Ali is an amazing talent, great in the ring and with unique promos, with a unique perspective and background. You'd think just for WWE's own love of patting themselves on the back for their own PR that they'd give him a prominent role.
Idk I was just looking him up on cagematch. Not being used for 7 months, not even on the C shows, is never a good sign
damn what a rad new group full of midgets
:badass
Who the fuck wants Adam Cole to be a face :what
You've been paying for it? :jeanluc #trumpset
While WWE hasn't announced or confirmed anything yet, multiple sources are now reporting that a deal to move to SummerSlam next week to the Amway Center is pretty much a done deal but once it's official, the company will release a statement. F4WOnline reports that at this point, no tickets are going to be sold for the PPV which would mean that those in attendance would strictly be WWE personnel. The fact that there will be no fans also doesn't put the pressure on the company to announce anything right away.
-- PWInsider adds that WWE is looking to move all their tapings - Raw, Smackdown and NXT - from the Performance Center to the Amway Center as it is a much larger facility and gives the company significantly more freedom in terms of staging and production. They also add that for the first time, WWE is considering using "virtual fans" as a possibility for SummerSlam and all future broadcasts, something that their partner FOX has been using for MLB.
Changing the topic when is the last time anyone watched current wrestling outside of YouTube clips :doge
Pretty sure it was mania for me, I may have watched money in the bank but can’t remember anything about it :lol
I was getting it for about 7 quid a month via a US account before the pound went to shit :killme
I jjust can't do this no crowd shit. I guess I did watch the last TNA PPV and I'll try Summerslam/All Out, but it's just too weird
I jjust can't do this no crowd shit. I guess I did watch the last TNA PPV and I'll try Summerslam/All Out, but it's just too weird
Changing the topic when is the last time anyone watched current wrestling outside of YouTube clips :doge
Pretty sure it was mania for me, I may have watched money in the bank but can’t remember anything about it :lol
I thought the thunderdome was starting tonight, you won’t be getting any YouTube views for raw off me mcmahon :hmph
I think this is supposed to be Mickie James' big return match? They're focusing on Rollins and Joe arguing at ringside instead. :lol
I think this is supposed to be Mickie James' big return match? They're focusing on Rollins and Joe arguing at ringside instead. :lol
Yeah, that was absolutely awful television. Rollins didn't have a microphone on him and the wrestlers didn't react to their match being disrupted.
Either element would have been fine on its own. Combining them ruined both.
Changing the topic when is the last time anyone watched current wrestling outside of YouTube clips :doge
Pretty sure it was mania for me, I may have watched money in the bank but can’t remember anything about it :lol
had no idea patrice wrote for wwe :doge
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Corey Graves was somehow able to look into the camera and explain that "somehow, Braun found his way into the Firefly Funhouse- this parallel world that nobody can find the entrance to" with a straight face.
https://mobile.twitter.com/MattBoone1984/status/1298301333867560962
https://mobile.twitter.com/MattBoone1984/status/1298301333867560962
Brock is also gone- his contract was not renewed- speculation is when 'Ronamania is over, they'll pay however much it takes to bring him back.Yeah Brock's contract ended at Mania and it's probably not worth it to bring him out for 0 crowds/wall of TVs showing Klansmen. As you say I'm sure he'll be back to plague the main event scene and hold the title for ages while barely ever defending it soon enough.
wtf is up w/ Keith Lee's outfit :heh
The biggest story of the day has been about Vince McMahon's new edict, which has barred the WWE talents from engaging with third parties. WrestlingInc was the first to reveal in an exclusive report that the Superstars have been given a 30-day ultimatum to sever all ties with third-party platforms such as Cameo, Twitch, TikTok, Youtube, etc. The inability to do so could result in fines, suspensions, and immediate termination of the contracts for the Superstars.
Vince McMahon had a call with the Superstars, and the WWE Boss said that it was the duty of the talents to promote and protect the brand.
Vince McMahon then sent a letter to the Superstars, an excerpt of which can be found below:
"Some of you are engaged with outside third parties using your name and likeness in ways that are detrimental to our company. It is imperative that these activities be terminated within the next 30 days (by Friday October 2). Continued violations will result in fines, suspension, or termination at WWE's discretion."
The backstage reaction, as expected, has not been positive as there is a section of the roster who are livid by WWE's request
Clash Of Champions' main event is Roman vs. Jey Uso?
:titus
Clash Of Champions' main event is Roman vs. Jey Uso?
:titus
Drew vs. Orton rematch, I'm guessing. That's a bigger matchup.
It makes sense booking wise tbh :titus
Well did you see the bump Darby took? They don't seem to tell anyone no to anything no matter how reckless.Holy shit why
https://twitter.com/Jordan_Patu/status/1302411364720193543
Eric Young is TNA champion? :heh
Eric Bischoff thinks fans are ditching pro wrestling for cable news
“The one question that nobody ever asks about fucking anything whether it’s politics, entertainment, or whatever it is, is ‘why’? Why did those people leave and where did they go? I have a theory and my guess or instinct tells me that 18-49 demo - my sense is that those people are watching the news.
“Look at Tucker Carlson’s 18-49, look at CNN’s 18-49, look at MSNBC. That was the wrestling audience. Where have they gone? They’ve gone to cable news. Why have they gone to cable news? Because cable news is more like professional wrestling than professional wrestling used to be. Their promos are fucking awesome!
“Regardless of your political ideologies, or what you believe in, or where you get your information from, it doesn’t fucking matter. Everybody does the same thing. They get up there, and they fucking argue, and they cut great promos on each other. It’s great narrative. There’s almost always someone up there that you want to choke and there’s almost always someone up there that’s saying what you believe in. So, you’re investing more emotion watching cable news than you get from watching wrestling because the promos are better!”
https://www.cagesideseats.com/wwe/2020/9/18/21446125/eric-bischoff-pro-wrestling-fans-cable-newsOur current President did own the only venue to ever host two consecutive Wrestlemanias. :thinkingQuote
Eric Bischoff thinks fans are ditching pro wrestling for cable news
“The one question that nobody ever asks about fucking anything whether it’s politics, entertainment, or whatever it is, is ‘why’? Why did those people leave and where did they go? I have a theory and my guess or instinct tells me that 18-49 demo - my sense is that those people are watching the news.
“Look at Tucker Carlson’s 18-49, look at CNN’s 18-49, look at MSNBC. That was the wrestling audience. Where have they gone? They’ve gone to cable news. Why have they gone to cable news? Because cable news is more like professional wrestling than professional wrestling used to be. Their promos are fucking awesome!
“Regardless of your political ideologies, or what you believe in, or where you get your information from, it doesn’t fucking matter. Everybody does the same thing. They get up there, and they fucking argue, and they cut great promos on each other. It’s great narrative. There’s almost always someone up there that you want to choke and there’s almost always someone up there that’s saying what you believe in. So, you’re investing more emotion watching cable news than you get from watching wrestling because the promos are better!”
:hulk
Have any of you marks bought WWE Battlegrounds? I've seen next to nothing about it online and only found it it released yesterday from an ad i saw on the xbox one store earlier today :titus :lol
2k love their fuckery tbf.
There’s something about Jim Sterling types (fake virtue signallers or we the fuck you say these days) doing wrestling content that burns my soul. I’m fully aware of all sleazy and scummy it is, that’s part of its appeal to me like true crime shid, I don’t need some candy ass Johnny come lately crying about how it’s so bad and wicked and evil it is all the time.
Meanwhile, there are no published reviews for the game on metacritic. It may be 2K Games did not send out review copies in a timely fashion.
The Observer notes that Vince McMahon was talking about singles pushes for Bianca Belair and Peyton Royce a few weeks ago but then forgot about them.
is there any proof that vince is still alive :hmm
i'm thinking of becoming a vince is secretly dead truther
This week’s episode of Monday Night Raw opened with RETRIBUTION getting right down to the business of cutting cringe promos about destroying all of WWE because they aren’t corporate sellouts who take money to chase an imaginary brass ring.
This came right after Tom Phillips revealed the group signed a contract with the company and are now official members of the Raw roster.
It doesn't even make sense. All of them have been all over WWE TV anyway. It's not like they're PC guys that never got TV time. Mia Yim and Dijakovic have been on a gang of Takeovers and in title matches, Yim has been on Smackdown and the Royal Rumble. The dread guy was randomly the announcer for Raw for a few months for some reason. Dijak had I think 4 title matches this year.
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:mouf
What? Vince is cucking Rey AGAIN? :dead
Dio Maddin is Mace
Dominik Dijakovic is T-Bar
King just said "T-Bar stands for 'That boy ain't right." :lol
Dunno who Slapjack is. When he tagged in, King audibly laughed when Tom said his name. :rofl
Dio Maddin is MaceYou know a gimmick is good when the announcers are actively shitting on and laughing at it.
Dominik Dijakovic is T-Bar
King just said "T-Bar stands for 'That boy ain't right." :lol
Dunno who Slapjack is. When he tagged in, King audibly laughed when Tom said his name. :rofl
T-Bar of RETRIBUTION hit back at CM Punk on Twitter saying the following:QuoteYou mock my brother SLAPJACK because you are a coward like every current and former @WWE Superstar. You tease leading RETRIBUTION but we will not follow you to failure like your New Nexus. We will destroy this place piece by piece, including you if you ever show up.
Also had the misfortune of watching part of Contest of Champions. Sami Zayn handcuffed Jeff Hardy to a ladder via the giant hole in his earlobe.
Also had the misfortune of watching part of Contest of Champions. Sami Zayn handcuffed Jeff Hardy to a ladder via the giant hole in his earlobe.
WTF? :lol
I have it on but missed a lot of it. Just found out that Nia Jax, Shayna Bazler, and Nikki Cross weren't cleared to wrestle, so instead they just seem to have canceled the tag match and Asuka ran out to face Bayley, only for it to be a quick DQ.
Also had the misfortune of watching part of Contest of Champions. Sami Zayn handcuffed Jeff Hardy to a ladder via the giant hole in his earlobe.
WTF? :lol
I have it on but missed a lot of it. Just found out that Nia Jax, Shayna Bazler, and Nikki Cross weren't cleared to wrestle, so instead they just seem to have canceled the tag match and Asuka ran out to face Bayley, only for it to be a quick DQ.
Yeah, the Asuka thing was stupid even for wrestling.
I hope I explained it well enough: Handcuffs, one cuff attached to the ladder, the other locked through the piercing hole in Jeff Hardy's ear.
https://twitter.com/WWE/status/1310376497228771329
Kurt Angle is a mutant
how skippable was the take over? :hmm
Of course an arab is the leader of the anteefuh tarist group. :doge
Has anyone attempted to explain why any show/executive/whoever is drafting the draft would choose for its brand a group hellbent on destroying the WWE?
lol who cares don’t people show up on both shows anyway now :heh
I don't think couples being on different shows matter when they're running all the shows at the same place for months at a time
I don't think Sting was ever on the gas after his body builder period and the first year or so of his wrestling career. His body during his peak Surfer Stang run could definitely have been achieved naturally, especially for a guy with a bodybuilding and weight lifting background.
The girl is mia yim but who the fuck are the other 3 jaybrones :whatisthis
I don't think Sting was ever on the gas after his body builder period and the first year or so of his wrestling career. His body during his peak Surfer Stang run could definitely have been achieved naturally, especially for a guy with a bodybuilding and weight lifting background.
https://youtu.be/-yUGi2X42sQ
:yeshrug look at him compared to Lex, Warrior, Bulldog, Goldberg, Hogan, even Nikita in the 80s.
Lars Sullivan randomly back. Guess they thought enough time has passed following the reveal that he posted a bunch of racist and homophobic shit on a BBS years ago?They never cared about that, it's all shit Vince thinks anyway. :doge Lars was actually out cause he was injured wasn't he?
Lars Sullivan randomly back. Guess they thought enough time has passed following the reveal that he posted a bunch of racist and homophobic shit on a BBS years ago?They never cared about that, it's all shit Vince thinks anyway. :doge Lars was actually out cause he was injured wasn't he?
Oh good, the entire Seth/Murphy/Mysterio clusterfuck is moving to SD, hooray
"Lars was somewhat harmlessly flirtatious, but he also expressed a seemingly “genuine” interest in mobility and how yoga could help his lifting. Yesterday was the first time he paid for and set an appointment for a professional session. 4 hours before the scheduled session, he sends the above. At that point it becomes pretty clear he’s just a scumbag..."
Why did they do a everyone is a free agent thing if they were just going to swap a handful of people?
Why did they do a everyone is a free agent thing if they were just going to swap a handful of people?
Plus this time they seem to be swapping people currently in feuds with each other. How does this make things any different? :lol
It's fucking nuts that they have Shinsuke Nakamura in a midcard tag with Cesaro, the guy they constantly throw in mid card tags because he's not interesting enough on his own. I hope his contract is up this year, NJ really needs him back.
lmaoooo how long has Alexa been doing this Fiend shit
Among those names that were included in the night two pool of wrestlers eligible to be drafted but weren't are: Andrade, Viking Raider Erik, Billie Kay, Tamina and Zelina Vega. It would be assumed they are now free agents, free to be signed by either brand. From night one, Mickie James remains the only "unsigned" wrestlers as previously unselected talent Shorty G. (Smackdown), Gran Metalik (Raw) and Lince Dorado (Raw) were ultimately selected.
BREAKING HUGE NEWS
Eva Marie might be coming back to WWE
:nugenix
BREAKING HUGE NEWS
Eva Marie might be coming back to WWE
:nugenix
Did Eva Marie fix her dead eyes and inability to emote as the humans do? Because I know she hasn't gotten any more skilled as a wrestler.
where’d they find this giant black dude with AJ :titus
ok what’s up with this Matt riddle dork
that big mf was a ninja :lol :lol :lol
Otis is on Raw as a "lucha" named "El Gran Gordo."
:dead
With just six nights left before his WWE Championship Hell in a Cell showdown against Drew McIntyre, Randy Orton entered the career-altering structure to send a “message from hell” to The King of Claymore Country. The Viper believes that for all of his previous battles inside Hell in a Cell, and for the Cell’s horrific reputation, he has not been changed at all.
It wasn’t long before McIntyre arrived, looking to give Orton a preview of their battle this Sunday. But Orton had the cage locked and chained shut. Luckily, the WWE Champion had bolt cutters stashed nearby to break the chains and get inside the Cell as Raw went off the air.
The something something nicknames that everyone in the Fed has are so wack :lolThey all get those nicknames but can only have one name name like Otis and Cesaro. :money
Barely any have a ring to them
Didn't think the Roman Reigns business could get any worse, but then WWE had a 45-minute I Quit match.
Also, Samoa Joe made me laugh out loud. He said Jeff Hardy ruined Elias' mix tape release. It was probably funnier when Joe said it.
One of them Wild Samoans has cancer and they're bringing that dude to a place that's being investigated as a multiple time offense hot spot for COVID cases :titus
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this looks like booty graphically, why is kenny olivier wearing a novelty muscle suit :lol
And then in other news, Nia Jax has injured yet another wrestler. This time Mandy Rose. :dizzy
Chelsea Green made her Smackdown debut last night, promptly broke her arm during the match, and will now be out for a while.
:dead
According to Wrestling Observer Radio’s Dave Meltzer, Vince McMahon tore up the script for last Friday’s SmackDown “on Thursday night/Friday morning” and rewrote it. No one else involved in the show had the new script until late afternoon.
Meltzer also said on WOR that Zelina Vega was making more money from her work on Twitch and other services than she was from her WWE.
They really haven't abandoned that whole thing yet?
They really haven't abandoned that whole thing yet?
Vince is reportedly very impressed with Rey's daughter. I wonder why since she has...stood around and not really done much?
I was talking about Retribution
De Cholitas zijn vrouwen die meedoen aan wedstrijden freestyle worstelen. Het woord cholita komt van Chola, vrouwen die de enorme plooirok dragen. Meestal zijn het hardwerkende vrouwen, vaak staan ze op markten of verkopen allerhande spullen op straat. Vroeger ten tijden van de Spanjaarden was chola een racistisch scheldwoord. Mede dankzij de huidige president die van inheemse afkomst is, wordt de chola meer en meer met trots gedragen. Tegenwoordig wordt het zelfs als een geuzennaam gebruikt. Het Cholitas worstelen vindt elke zondag plaats in El Alto, dat is op de hoogvlakte boven La Paz en wordt druk bezocht. Ondanks het ogenschijnlijk geweld is alles goedmoedig en alle worpen en valpartijen zijn zorgvuldige choreografiën. De grootste fans zijn heel jonge kinderen, die steeds tussendoor met hun helden op de foto willen en na afloop dan ook juichend en springend de ring bestormen.:doge
I might put it on just for it to bore me to sleep 😴
He should bring back the fruity blue shorts :doge
WWE books a stable as a group being mad and frustrated with how shitty WWE books them, only for WWE to then immediately book them to look like trash losers who are now far worse off than they were prior to the formation of the stable?
Weird.
:dead :dead
Sting debuted on Dynamite and they immediately put out a PRESS RELEASE for it saying he has a multi year deal
The show ends with Don Callis of TNA and close friend of Kenny Omega cheating to screw Moxley out of the title then running off from the arena with the show ending with Callis saying he and Kenny will explain on Impact next week :dead If they do an angle with Kenny taking the title to Impact :dead :dead :dead
The New York Times has named its Best Performances of 2020.
Alongside distinguished actors and actresses in big budget dramas by Netflix and HBO sits Maxwell Jacob Friedman for his performance in Le Dinner Debonair.
Who is that swinging the chair
This 2020/2021 commercial
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Gb6UoqHwKw
:titus
Meanwhile, Charlotte Flair had some work done on her face, right?
they only did an "in loving memory of" card before the theme started
how can they call keith lee's finisher the spirit bomb lol
how can they call keith lee's finisher the spirit bomb lol
I’ll have to watch it now :goldberg
Just saw one fan theory that would qualify as a "dumb finish." Goldberg beats Drew and gets the title. Drew is then a surprise Rumble entrant and wins again so he can get his title back at Mania.
PLZ NO
:waluigi
They're a couple :trumps
There was an amusing bit in the women's Rumble where Naomi and Bianca missed a cue or something for one of Naomi's elaborate return to the ring stunts. So they repeated the same sequence of moves two minutes later. Byron Saxton foolishly called attention to it.
EDIT: Pete Rosenberg won the 24-7 title. John Layfeld said, "This could be the worst event in wrestling history."
Randy Orton
Edge
AJ Styles
Big E
Daniel Bryan
Sheamus
Jeff Hardy
Bobby Lashley
Jey Uso
Cesaro
The Miz
John Morrison
Otis
Sami Zayn
Shinsuke Nakamura
Dolph Ziggler
Mustafa Ali
Dominik Mysterio
Rey Mysterio
Baron Corbin
Braun Strowman
Ricochet
Elias
Riddle
Xavier Woods
Looking like the finish is going to be Orton coming back in after having done nothing and winning it?
They're a couple :trumps
Say what??
:titus
why have they changed a load of peoples entrance music to much shitter music?
why have they changed a load of peoples entrance music to much shitter music?
WWE doesnt work with CFO$ anymore so they're trying to get off as many of those themes as possible to not pay the publishing company anymore.
I wish it was 04, Chris was still alive :stahp
The only time this came up at Elimination Chamber was during the Kickoff show, when the panel decided to debate the father of Lacey’s baby before getting around to wondering what this means for Asuka. Peter Rosenberg remarked “let’s not forget who Asuka is, no one wants to see Asuka.” Booker T said “trust me, somebody is going to step up.” Charly Caruso closed by saying “that’s something we’ll be waiting to find out. Of course there will be developments throughout the evening as to who Asuka will be facing when she puts her Raw women’s championship on the line.”
Then the show happened and she wasn’t mentioned.
Throwing Tag straps on him and Priest wouldn't be surprising since Vince pretty actively doesn't give a shit about that division.
Throwing Tag straps on him and Priest wouldn't be surprising since Vince pretty actively doesn't give a shit about that division.
They are high on Priest right now apparently so this wouldn't surprise me too much. Who even ARE the RAW tag champs?
Night one wasn't that bad. Nice seeing a crowd back, even though I think it's nuts. They kept showing shots of them and lots of people didn't have masks on.
Good to see Fiend back in regular costume and not that WTF IS THIS LMAO costume from before. That was the worst ring gear since Giant Gonzalez.
Good to see Fiend back in regular costume
I imagine Joe is a he wants to wrestle and they won't clear him one. Billy Kay is a weird one she was on wrestlemania :doge
WWE released Braun Stowman!, Alistair Black and some jabronis, after cutting a shit load of office staff the other week, they're 99% selling up in the near future :gladbron
I'm thinking they're selling up to CAA so they get their own version of UFC (that's where Nick 'Not Tony' Khan came from, the new big dog in WWE corporate).
theyre trimming up for a sale surely, or trying to get to get Tony Khan to spend aew of business by bloating their budget with WWE cast offs, I'd give it 99% to the sale and 1% to the 9d chess move
SD's roster now has SEVEN total women on it after canning Ruby, who I hope goes on to somewhere that appreciates her better.
there was word going around not long back that he was in a bad place cos of luke harpers death, he maybe decided to put family first and not be on the road half of the year. he doesn't seem like he'd get a lol fuck you wwe release
When Bray Wyatt was released by the WWE just days ago, it reportedly had a major effect on the entire WWE roster and it even sent them shockwaves like never before. This is because Brat Wyatt was beloved by almost everyone in the WWE and he was also one of the top merchandise sellers the company has had. The feeling backstage is that since the promotion put so much time, money and effort into him and his characters, most especially his "The Fiend" character, he was untouchable and he wouldn't be affected by the releases brought about by the budget cuts.
According to Fightful, nearly 20 WWE talents said that they were very frustrated with the company and that some of the veterans even feel like their jobs are no longer safe. It was also noted that morale in WWE had dropped in a big way during the previous batch of releases, but once live events returned, morale was back up, though when Bray Wyatt was released, morale took a huge hit once again.
WWE has always seen a rotation with their talents, but lately things have been a lot different in the WWE, especially since top Superstars are the ones who are being released. The budget cuts reason that the WWE has been giving their talents is believed to be accurate as the WWE want to get their payroll under control.
A couple of years ago, a number of WWE talents were given bigger contracts because WWE Chairman Vince McMahon didn't want his wrestlers to sign with AEW, but now it seems that the mindset has changed and they are more on keeping costs down than worrying about people jumping ship to AEW or other wrestling promotions.
I have mostly come around on the idea of AEW tho, possibly because WWE is at what has to be an all time low.
fwiw both are shite and i watch neither (other than a couple of smackdowns when crowds came back), maybe wrestling isn't for me anymore :huh
The AEW love-in is getting a bit silly now.HOLY SHIT!
The CM Punk match was hard mediocre, but I'm seeing it get B+ scores everywhere. The women's battle royale was all kinds of terrible and that got a B-. The PPV was easily 90 minutes too long, some matches felt like a real slog to get through and the only really outstanding match was Bucks v Luchas.
I get that people really want a credible opposition promotion, but automatically increasing match ratings just because it's not WWE and <insert indie darling here> is over there is entirely counter-productive.
The absolute worst thing about AEW is AEW marks.spoiler (click to show/hide)Also can't look at Tony Khan without seeing this:
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Lots of WWE firings.
Don't want to celebrate anyone losing his job, but never was a fan of Nia Jax. Her firing was for the best.
ngl I have a soft spot for Shane and enjoy his silly matches :trumps
Cody Rhodes(and Brandi probs) is going back to WWE :cody
I had some spare psn credit so out it to buying the mark edition of WWE2K22 :stahpI'm anxious to hear more. When the Yuke's to 2K transition really happened, apparently it was remarkably buggy. I'm hoping it recovers and does well. Fans deserve a good game.
Turns out it's pretty fun, by far the best it's been since under 2k and maybe the best since here comes the pain(so far) :titus
I had some spare psn credit so out it to buying the mark edition of WWE2K22 :stahpI'm anxious to hear more. When the Yuke's to 2K transition really happened, apparently it was remarkably buggy. I'm hoping it recovers and does well. Fans deserve a good game.
Turns out it's pretty fun, by far the best it's been since under 2k and maybe the best since here comes the pain(so far) :titus
Triple H has retired, which robs us of seeing what would have been one of the most self indulgent matches of all time v Cody Rhodes :stahp
VINCE OUT :titus
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/business/business-news/wwe-vince-mcmahon-steps-back-misconduct-investigation-1235166429/
Still booking tho :neogaf
It has appointed McMahon’s daughter Stephanie to serve as interim CEO and interim chairwoman, WWE also said on Friday.
I'm surprised Big Johnny is still there tbh, but as long as nothing sexually harassmenty about Vince comes out, it turns out he didn't use company cash to pay his hoes off and the story doesn't go past "sleazy man in sleazy behaviour shocker", I think Vince will take back over in 6 months or so when theres only Bix left who cares about the story.
Hopefully that ugly bitch Kevin Dunn eats shit :trumps
For years, a long-standing rumor had been shared amongst wrestling fans regarding Executive Vice President of TV Production Kevin Dunn. The story, which had been making the rounds on Reddit years ago, was that Dunn’s father had saved WWF tapes from a burning trailer. Vince McMahon supposedly felt so indebted to Dunn and his father that he guaranteed them jobs for life.
Bryan Alvarez had incorrect info :titus
After news broke that Vince McMahon had retired, reports quickly followed that Brock Lesnar responded to that news by getting good and pissed off enough about it to walk out of Friday Night SmackDown, where he was planned to appear in Boston. This led to the company apparently trying to put together a backup plan for SummerSlam while still trying to get “The Beast” to reconsider.
He did just that.
Despite reports that a script was written up that didn’t include him just before showtime, Lesnar walked right back into SmackDown following the conclusion of the main event. Theory, the Money in the Bank contract holder, was in the middle of the ring when that familiar riff hit the speakers and the commentary team had this to say:
Pat McAfee: “I thought...”
Michael Cole: “I did too!”
It seemed to be a clever way to acknowledge that something was amiss without outright admitting that there was turmoil. Of course, there will undoubtedly be speculation from fans that it was all a big work, but business is business and Brock is a businessman before anything else.
And Logan Paul is the best worker on the planet :titus
"The Observer reports an actual fight went down, with Punk “starting things by swinging fists at The Bucks’ Matt Jackson.” Punk’s trainer, Ace Steel, was also involved and apparently threw a chair that hit Nick Jackson in the eye. Kenny Omega was also allegedly involved and Steel apparently bit him and grabbed his hair."
Apparently ol MMA Phil finally picked up his first shoot fight win and whooped either one of or both of the Bucks afterwards :cornette
Further details are continuing to emerge regarding WWE’s firing of Mandy Rose due to her paid content service.
It’s worth reiterating a misconception – WWE didn’t fire Rose just because of the fact she had a subscription service, but more so because of the nature of what she was posting on there, which, according to Dave Meltzer on Wrestling Observer Radio, the company believes “way, way, way crossed the line”.
Of course you can still argue whether that’s right or wrong on WWE’s part, but it’s important to note that distinction.
Meltzer explained how NXT booker Shawn Michaels found out, and what his immediate reaction was, saying:
“They switched the whole show around because they – what happened was, there was a meeting and Matt Bloom brought to Shawn Michaels, told him what some of the stuff that she’s been putting on her subscription service is.
“And told Shawn what was there, and Shawn’s immediate thing was, ‘We’ve got to get the title off of her immediately’. Switched around the whole show, got the title off of her.”
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Meltzer added that the plan was for Perez to win the title from Rose anyway, but it would have been on either January 10 or February 4, but instead, Michaels made the decision to hastily move it forward as soon as he found out what Rose had been posting.
The following day, news emerged that Mandy Rose had been released from her WWE contract.
Meltzer added:
“She’s had the subscription service, and it got popular and lucrative, and she went further and further, and the feeling was that she way, way, way crossed the line. And they believe that they had absolutely no choice but to get rid of her.”
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Fightful Select previously reported that Rose had indicated to people in recent months that she did realize what she was posting could get her in trouble with WWE management.
Rose’s reign with the NXT Women’s Title clocked in at 413 days, so it was just four days off being the second-longest NXT Women’s Title reign of all time behind Asuka’s.
So apparently Mandy Rose made 500 large (brother) in the last week alone. Simps are fucking wild yo :doge
I'd truly love to know how much Stephanie and Vince hate each other now :thinking
The Saudis :(
I'd truly love to know how much Stephanie and Vince hate each other now :thinking
The sad truth is that an unscripted reality show of them dealing with each other would be more entertaining than the last 10 years of WWE.
I doubt Shad Khan is going to spend half his net worth on it tbh.
I'm starting to wonder if the Saudi thing was someone spreading a rumour to test the waters :thinking
WWE and UFC have merged, but see my new avi for the big news :titus
UFC and WWE?! :mindblown
HOT PREDICTION: whoever buys it brings in :what as a minority owner.
There's reports TKO is going to oust everyone close to Vince to have a fresh start. This could include Trips and Steph.