Is there a worthwhileiOSmmo yet?
I have been playing a shameful (any) amount of LoTRO and either I've become a god or they've really scaled back the difficulty in this game. I'm playing a hunter and i've hit lvl 47 w/ less than 60 hours of gaming. I've found that I can just run certain instances and get 1/3rd of my required level XP from one run which is nearly infinitely repeatable as the instances scale. Also you don't have to loot monsters or visit trainers. The game now auto loots and you now automatically get skills (like in Conan), you also now get XP from crafting.
I'm already in areas I have never visited because I'd always get bored and stop playing the game, so I guess the chances have been successful.
Got a beta invite for the Elder Scrolls, anyone else in it?
Prob going to download it this week and give it a go.
Is there a worthwhile iOS mmo yet?
Got a beta invite for the Elder Scrolls, anyone else in it?
Prob going to download it this week and give it a go.
Played it for like 5 minutes last beta. Not planning to play anymore.
Got a beta invite for the Elder Scrolls, anyone else in it?
Prob going to download it this week and give it a go.
Played it for like 5 minutes last beta. Not planning to play anymore.
Looks like this thread gets Guild Wars 2 hotness!
Is Treesong a closeted GW2 fan like Manabyte?
:ohhh
That's fucking stupid. Nobody cares about the MMOs posted in here but the people posting about them. I never stopped anyone from discussing MMOs. You guys just don't do it and get mad at me for discussing the games I play.
If he / Guild Wars 2 annoys you so much why don't you slap him on ignore and keep it moving?
been playing a bunch of star trek online. if you're not a trek fan you probably won't be down but it's a good game. very little grind, AC style crew mission system for xp, space and ground combat, and shockingly little required real money transactions required.
You could make yourself your own Sexy Counsellor Troi and offer to strip for money. After awhile, you may be able to get onto their ship and work yourself up the ranks before revealing yourself. Name her Counseller Troi-Dong Horse
We're in the middle of developing Everquest Next Landmark (on schedule right now for end of this month).
god dammit ff11 is still sub-based. i want to play that trash
Am I the only person hyped about EQ Next? It looks like it could force me to return to mmos.
Why? Looks great to me.
I guess I have more faith in EQN than WildStar or ESO but the difference is only a matter of really shit and slightly less shit, it's shit all the same :kobeyuck
Yeah, I'm pretty sure my GW2 discussion is miles ahead of what the rest of the forum has contributed.
I was hyped for EQnext, but after the reveal I lost most interest due to the art direction and disjointed feel it gives me.
EQ should have stuck to its roots and be realistic in its art design, make a realistic sandbox mmo. Not a cartoony minecraft wow hybrid.
We can also discuss broader topics in which any mmo experience is relevant. For instance..
Having retired from mmos, I haven't dealt with this issue in awhile but I'd love to get folks views on guild politics. I was lucky to join a few very good guilds, but even the best tended to face some ugly problems at one point or another. Whether it was the tension between the "first group" raiders and those trying get in said group, or arguments over raid times, I rarely remember a month that didn't have some drama.
Did you just ignore the drama and use your guild as a hub - basically a spot to raid for a couple hours and sign out until next time? Did you try to bring folks together, solve issues, etc? Something else? Personally I handled it a variety of ways. I remember the biggest problem in the guilds I joined was indeed the "first group" drama. Our main raiding group would be our 10 best player, normally. But while it tended to be obvious who the best tanks and healers were, dps was often rather interchangable in my view. Sure every group wanted a hunter and whichever shaman spec was OP at the time, but overall I could definitely see why a dps who was left out might feel like he was screwed over. Basically it became a buddy system: if you had been in the guild longer, were a consistent contributor etc you were in. The new guy was left out.
I remember trying to put together a solid second group for those left out, even offering to tank for that group instead of the main one (which pissed our guild leader off to no end). Basically my view was that if you want a healthy guild, folks need to feel appreciated and a part of progression. No one wants to be stuck in a scrub group that can't clear easy content. Unfortunately the guild leader disagreed, I wasn't able to consistently help the second group, and eventually the tension splinted the guild for good. To this day the thought just annoys me. Having two solid 10 man groups would have been VERY beneficial, and would have helped us become a more attractive guild.
I think it's time to officially ban GW2 from The Bore.
NC Soft, as PlayNC, is one of the companies making ContentID claims against YouTube reviews. Angry Joe gave GW2 a 10/10 and now NC Soft has claimed his review content and rejected his disputes:
https://twitter.com/AngryJoeShow/status/421631687764627456
https://twitter.com/AngryJoeShow/status/421630568321646592
https://twitter.com/AngryJoeShow/status/421630045824630784
It's fucking BEYOND ME how anyone could give GW2 a 10 OUT OF MOTHERFUCKING 10. I hope NCSoft makes him suffer.
Treesong, kill this thread. It's got the sickness now.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09LTT0xwdfw
Why is every MMO going for a WoW style MMO? Why not an Ultima-style, Diablo-style MMO? These motherfuckers have been chasing dat WoW money and they have ALL failed. Even when they're free-2-fucking-play they can't get as many players as WoW. It's getting embarrassing.
Why is every MMO going for a WoW style MMO? Why not an Ultima-style, Diablo-style MMO? These motherfuckers have been chasing dat WoW money and they have ALL failed. Even when they're free-2-fucking-play they can't get as many players as WoW. It's getting embarrassing.
They kind of did that (Diablo) with Marvel Heroes, and while it's OK the micro transaction model is a rusty spiked dildo in your ass.
NO ONE FUCKING CARES ABOUT GUILD WARS 2
Why is every MMO going for a WoW style MMO? Why not an Ultima-style, Diablo-style MMO? These motherfuckers have been chasing dat WoW money and they have ALL failed. Even when they're free-2-fucking-play they can't get as many players as WoW. It's getting embarrassing.
They kind of did that (Diablo) with Marvel Heroes, and while it's OK the micro transaction model is a rusty spiked dildo in your ass.
How's the gameplay? iirc one of the Diablo 2 leads worked on it.
Because it's fucking shite.It really isn't. It's a decent MMO that does some good things well. The combat is fun. The world is fantastic and great to explore, which the game actually rewards. It has some of the best scale in the genre.
They're actually not redoing the character animations. It's just a visual upgrade. Orcs will continue to have the same base model and hunched over running animation.
Man.... warriors are so fucking boring. I don't know what it is but it's something about things just not feeling right mechanically and audiovisually and the rage mechanic being sort of meh. It's definitely not as fun as the monk. I mean... I love the way my character looks right now. Female night elf + 2H sword is sexy as fuck. I really don't know what to do know. I guess I am interested in 'mastering' the class and raiding with it but something just feels off. :fbm
The other option I have is orc shaman. I like orcs in general, but their model in the game is fucking UGLY. Why is a Thrall SUCH A FUCKING BADASS but every other orc model in the game is so stupid looking? Fucking blizzard and their shit man I swear.
SOE is closing down four of its MMOs. Star Wars: Clone Wars Adventures and Free Realms will close on March 31st. Vanguard and Wizardry Online will bow out on July 31st.
I didn't want to buy in on EQN yet. Are they giving away the keys to SOE customers?
GAF MMO guilds are pretty awful, not sure why you'd subject yourself to that kind of torture willingly, good game or not.
The GW2 GAF guild is good.
TESO: At level 3 now and can totally understand the complaints about how drab the beginning is. The world does seem potentially large. Quests are a mixed bag. There's a lot of text to quests and I've mostly skipped through them. As in SWTOR, the idea of elongated story telling and MMO progression (often vertical) systems clash against each other. Players want to skip through the babble and complete the objective for rewards. The story wants you to click through a bunch of dialog options. The pace conflicts. The animations are stiff, combat (SO FAR) is pretty basic, and jumping is really floaty and gives no sense of physical interaction with the world.
Right now I'm on a quest to find a monkey, but the quest isn't working. I see other players with a monkey following them (immersion ohnos), but no monkey shows up for me at the exact spot where it says to find the monkey.
Holy fuck. The alliance war takes place in a huge portion of Cyrodiil.
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Holy fuck. The alliance war takes place in a huge portion of What's this? My interest has peaked. Kind of reminds me of the Wintersgrasp map in WoW, during a pvp battle.
that's tamriel from elder scrolls
What's this? My interest has peaked. Kind of reminds me of the Wintersgrasp map in WoW, during a pvp battle.
why is the continent shaped like a shield now
is that cuz they took out the shitty parts where the animal people liveHoly fuck. The alliance war takes place in a huge portion of What's this? My interest has peaked. Kind of reminds me of the Wintersgrasp map in WoW, during a pvp battle.
that's tamriel from elder scrolls
omg the male regard's /dance
My dude runs like a stiff and then suddenly I'm Beyonce on the dance floor.
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that on a pentium iii, breh?
docbon: Which faction in Wildstar do you plan to roll?
So there's this five-minute trailer (http://dai.ly/x1cq6mj) (dailymotion) for version 2.1 of Dragon Quest X and man, I really wish this would come to the west.
:lol Isn't there an NDA?
http://massively.joystiq.com/2014/02/18/world-of-warcraft-instant-level-90-boost-price-revealed-at-60-u/
Post this here, even tho I discussed it in the gaf thread.
docbon: Which faction in Wildstar do you plan to roll?
I think Blizz gave up on getting new players, so they're trying to milk the Blizz faithful for whatever they can. I'm amazed at the people who said they'd pay $60 to skip to 90. You're paying the company that made the game additional money to skip out on playing a majority of the game all while still paying monthly just to have access to the game. Anyone doing this needs to go to the corner of shame. I realize third party sites were offering this anyways, but that's always been a testament to the meat of the game being 80% boring work. If you're at that point where you would pay to avoid playing then just quit the game.
I was going to dedicate some time for a certain game over this weekend, but after ending my night with a round of PVP in the arena i have come to the conclusion that this game fucking sucks.
I honestly can't believe I found ESO to be way more enjoyable than this game.
MMOs are dead.
http://atlas.guildwars2.com/en/#/map
This is actually kind of cool. A lore website for that game that is an interactive map of the game world's map.
Actually, nevermind. There's barely anything on the map at this point except small pictures of art from the Living Story. It needs to be far more extensive than this.
Sounds like they need to get rid of the 'starter island' all together.
There's another TESO beta this weekend. I have a key if someone else wants it.
There's another TESO beta this weekend. I have a key if someone else wants it.
how big of a download is it?
for whatever reason I still haven't uninstalled WoW, even though I haven't played in ages. Subconsciously holding out for f2p I guess.
Gave TESO another go and
I just don't find that teso's combat holds up in PVP. Throw in the skill lag in large fights and it's just sort meh pvp for me. There's a lack of information, and weird hit detection rules, and just a lack of feel or flow to combat.
http://www.mmo-champion.com/content/3805-Dev-Watercooler-Pruning-the-Garden-of-War
I am curious to see how WoW players react to this. Either A) They get mad as hell because years of progression were taken away or B) They suddenly realize that there never was any progression and their relative power to monster power was always the same. The third option is magical pain-free cognitive dissonance.
It'd bring back a small niche, but not hordes. People may find the past to be far shittier than their nostalgia would tell them.
Ebonheart Pact definitely has the ugliest areas by far. Fuck that faction.
lol @ expansions with a box price of a new PC game -- for a game you already subscribe monthly to.
lol @ expansions with a box price of a new PC game -- for a game you already subscribe monthly to.
We've got another Etoilet. Time to close up shop gents, it was an okay run.
https://forum-en.guildwars2.com/forum/info/updates/Game-Update-Notes-April-15-2014
Huge Patch Notes
docbon: After you left and we all got bored waiting, We took to FA BL. Ended up taking the west side of their map. Then Colin showed up w/ ANet in tow, so I knew the patch was coming soon. Wasted too much time on FA's Hills before hopping over to HoD's BL to take stuff. If I had ten more mintues I probably could have flipped their t3 Hills. =/
As for new stuff: Wardrobe is awesome. Freely swapping traits is awesome. Megaserver has been awesome with no probs so far. New meta boss spawn timers are meh. One of my grandmaster traits involves killing Karka Queen to unlock it, but there's only three Queen spawns now so eh. Did Taco after the patch. Game performance with high amounts of players seems better now. Not a lot of lag in cities despite the increased numbers.
Hearts have a new message system when completing them. Like that. DO NOT LIKE that you don't get any traits until level 30. That sucks imo.
Also, I missed out on about 4g by not immediately selling all my runes I had stocked up. The krait rune market fell quick.
Does the Veteran questing offer good rewards or is it mostly done to see the stories?
It seems my old beta access doesn't get me into newer betas for Wildstar? Kind of sucks. Wanted to try it one more time.
I signed up for the ArcheAge beta, but it seems they're just letting streamers in right now.
Damn, WoW has gotten dead lately. I was there when 5.4 hit and it was amazing. Lots of server queues as well. Now everything is so lifeless. It's really kind of sad. And weird because WoD is still months away, and there probably isn't going to be a 5.5 in the meantime.
Damn, WoW has gotten dead lately. I was there when 5.4 hit and it was amazing. Lots of server queues as well. Now everything is so lifeless. It's really kind of sad. And weird because WoD is still months away, and there probably isn't going to be a 5.5 in the meantime.
http://massively.joystiq.com/2014/05/01/defiance-will-flip-the-f2p-switch-this-summer/
Defiance going F2P in June. It was B2P but I didn't see a lot of PR or attention put towards it post-launch, so i wonder if people even still knew it existed and was B2P?
http://massively.joystiq.com/2014/05/01/guild-wars-2-begins-chinese-open-beta/
Guild Wars 2 starts Open Beta/Early Access. Two weeks later is the official Chinese Launch. 500k Early Access copies sold so far.
It's the first "purchasable" B2P MMO in China. Curious to see how staying with that approach holds up in the market.
Made it through the first real zone (Crimson Shores?) with a Drakan Warrior / Explorer. Going to do the same deal with Human Spellslinger / Scientiest and Something Stalker / Settler.
Like what I played, which is more than I can say for most MMOs these days. Don't really care that questing is samey, given that no one has developed a proper solution to the core problem / tedium of questing as of yet.
Not super impressed with the world. Seamless zones should have been the standard years ago, but oh well.
Made it through the first real zone (Crimson Shores?) with a Drakan Warrior / Explorer. Going to do the same deal with Human Spellslinger / Scientiest and Something Stalker / Settler.
Like what I played, which is more than I can say for most MMOs these days. Don't really care that questing is samey, given that no one has developed a proper solution to the core problem / tedium of questing as of yet.
Not super impressed with the world. Seamless zones should have been the standard years ago, but oh well.
guild wars 2
muwhahahahaa
The world is pretty seamless. Are you still in the tutorial area?
I'm just gonna go ahead and say that out of WoW, ESO, GW2 and Wildstar, Wildstar has the most shit art direction. I appreciate the cartoon style, but not the actual style. I see some Neogaffers comparing Wildstar to WoW. Wildstar wishes it had the artists WoW has. The environments have weird colors and the biggest offenders are the really the immensely shitty character designs, despite the expressive animation.
(http://i5.minus.com/iq7y4P1qcQ0gu.png)Makes me think of that weird shooter thing that SE cancelled a while back. I GOT FUNK IN MY JUNK
I've been logging into Guild Wars lately but haven't really gotten into it yet. Logged in just now on a new character in pre-searing. Fucking amazing. The engine has aged very well and the ambient sounds are really nice too. This is something WoW completely fails on. WoW has nice music but shit ambient sounds. Guild Wars had both, yo.
I hope I can get into it again because, fuck, at this point it's an amazing game compared to some of the shit of this day and age, especially Guild Wars fucking 2. Fucking fuck that shit game. And fuck etoilet for peddling that shit. Fucking disgusting. We went from an original game that did its own thing to a half-assed WoW clone with an absolute shit combat system.
Also, Kripp's video on Wildstar is pathetic. What a whore. He must have some contract with Blizz over Hearthstone, because ain't nobody excited for Warlords of Draenor.
I believe the stuff you make can be eventually put into EQN.
I believe the stuff you make can be eventually put into EQN.
Any idea of how this works? Dota 2 gives a cut of their revenue to item contributors, so I'm wondering if EQ Next has something similar in place. I hope it isn't just being used as a source of free labor.
EQN looks very good to me. I think people are going to create some amazing dungeons and shit.
https://forum-en.guildwars2.com/forum/info/updates/Game-Update-Notes-May-20-2014
Queens Pavilion + Labyrinthine Cliffs
-Queensdale Train killed
-The more ridiculous task traits changed to level appropriate tasks.
-Old LS stuff attainable
-hawt phoenix weapons
Probably other stuff. Haven't read all of it. I know there's something WvWvW related to come, but not sure where in their release schedule it will come into play.
:pacspit you broke the etoilet post chain
Also, Firefall is finally launching JJuly 29th. Game has been in beta limbo for years.Did it ever become fun?
...so please give me a laundry list of things that you enjoyed about old MMOs that I can respond to with Guild Wars 2 bullshit.
Blizzard claims that most of the losses were "disproportionately concentrated in the East."
There is some good news for the company: ARPG Diablo III has sold over 20 million copies since its launch in spring 2012.
Got into the Archeage beta this weekend. Will try it out.Hopefully its not a pain to get to the housing/sailing/exploring stuff. No NDA either.
yeah Archeage, so much promised but it is stuck in WoW mode. I paid 150 bucks for the alpha and have no desire to play it now.
I am not sure what you're talking about. There's the world and dynamic events in the game. You run into the events and choose to do them or not.
“We really don’t know if it will grow again,” said lead game designer Tom Chilton. “It is possible, but I wouldn’t say it’s something that we expect. Our goal is to make the most compelling content we can.”
He added: “By building expansions, you are effectively building up barriers to people coming back. But by including the level 90 character with this expansion, it gives people the opportunity to jump right into the new content.”
Free week for former subscribers of FF14.
http://massively.joystiq.com/2014/08/20/final-fantasy-xiv-throws-free-week-for-its-first-anniversary/
Given that I dislike heavily PvE focused MMOs, it's miraculous I even enjoy playing WoW. Raiding was hard to get into, but now that I'm into it, I'll admit it is exciting to get better and better gear. It's basically hard fought character progress that replaces leveling at max level. It's really nothing but a carrot on a stick, and that's going to suck when you're at the end of the line. Which is why MMO's focus should be on PvP, but I guess if you're too fucking dumb to design a game to work well for PvP, PvE will do. :beli
Also reading this thread http://neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=877061 makes me realize what an emotionally stunted bunch of gamers WoW gamers are and also helps me understand why I played WoW on and off over the years; it was never that good of a game.
It annoys me when people talk about how the good old days of WoW were all about strategy and having to use stuns or whatever as if it's so amazingly unique. Guild Wars 1 had that shit and blew WoW the fuck away in that regard. You had to use your wits at almost EVERY SINGLE ENEMY ENCOUNTER. But the entire fucking MMO industry is pretending that game never existed, including ArenaNet. :yuck
Sweet jesus... leveling through Cata content is almost impossible. The dungeons are so fucking bad. I detest the dipshits that designed the Cata dungeons.
Cataclysm is really one of the most embarrassing things I've played. I remember doing some shitty quest involving Thrall and his wench talking my fucking ears off, and Thrall ended up proposing to her. I mean you can't make this shit up. Unless you're Blizzard of course. In that case you can not only make that shit up, but a whole bunch of other shit!
WELCOME TO ONLINE GAMING, BITCH!
Blizz is planning to flatten out tanks for better or worse -- http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/14058407204?page=1
I've been leveling as Brewmaster, but just for the easy dungeon queues. Haven't done enough questing to see how the damage works in the later levels during quests.
Blizz is planning to flatten out tanks for better or worse -- http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/14058407204?page=1
I've been leveling as Brewmaster, but just for the easy dungeon queues. Haven't done enough questing to see how the damage works in the later levels during quests.
I'm not sure what this even means. Vague as fuck.
What I want is more damage during questing. Decent damage for questing, decent damage for raiding, instead of shit damage for questing and high damage for raiding.
Metzen clarified that Blizzard will continue supporting World of Warcraft. "My hope personally is that we'll support it forever," he said.not surprising. wow, hearthstone, and (maybe) heroes means they have infinite money generators for many years to come.
But they only have 3 franchises :/Sounds like that's two franchises that don't have card games yet.
Titan Canceled
http://www.polygon.com/2014/9/23/6833953/blizzard-cancels-titan-next-gen-mmo-pc
It was essentially vaporware at this point so I'm not surprised to see it confirmed.
Hey, I got an idea. Why don't you just fucking kill yourself?O-ho-ho. :badass
My face model, on the other hand, makes it seem like my character is perpetually sucking on a lemon.Fits your post history though.
Mind you the animations are the worst part of the new models...
Here's a hilarious example of how wonderful the new models are.
Before
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After
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:dead
I've been mostly affected by the change to nelves though.
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Look what they did...
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Look what they did to my poor baby. :stahp
Decided to grab WoW during that $5 sale and play for the first time, and oh man I can see why they were offering the free level 90s with the purchase of WoD. I've been tanking dungeons from 15-57, and it feels like each and every dungeon encounter is effectively broken. I've downed dozens of different bosses and yet I can't explain a single mechanic because they get absolutely vaporized before they can begin any sort of attack pattern. The game has the fastest leveling I've seen in an MMO, but still manages to feel mind numbingly tedious at the same time.
I was really excited to play through ~ten years~ of group content at first but now I don't really feel like continuing. :fbm
At this point I think the subs are just planned for initial revenue to soften the transition to FTP microtransactions.FF14 seems to be doing okay, but it's definitely an exception.
:beli Game is fine, breh. MMORPG.com :hehAnyone getting Elder Scrolls? I heard it's much better now.
Bruh, just browse the MMORPG.com forums. I'm reading stuff like "yeah it's better but still boring so I went back to Guild Wars 2". Nuff said. :holeup
I just played till max lvl in Draenor and thats it, first time that I leveled since WOTLK and I enjoyed it.
Don't have time for that shit anymore though.
What Blizz really should do is try to make the next MMO with consoles in mind as well, ala FF14.
F2P or B2P, PC/Console crossplay.
I had some fun with MoP. Some of the early zones reminded me of Nagrand, which is one of my favorite zones in WoW. Liked the dungeons too. But once the shine wore off it was just...WoW again.
Which is also brought down by boring mmo quests.
It's also the best feature of XI and XIV.
Played for a few hours. My impression:Most chat activity goes on in private chats (linkshells) instead of out in the open. I learned to appreciate that after realizing how dumb a lot of an MMO playerbase can be.
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I'm a bit annoyed I haven't interacted with a single player even once. I've seen very little chat activity also. Ul'Dah or whatever it's called is a shit-tier city. It's a dull, ugly, too big city.
For an irl shut-in you sure seem hung up on digital interaction. :iface
Isn't that how almost all shut-ins are. :iface
I was originally follow naming conventions for my cat boy, but having every single cat with only two possible last names was so boring.
Don't worry, we have assize now.Best expansion (lol) ever!
:rejoice
I think I may have started my character on an (unofficial) french speaking server :beli
I'm not 100% sure if I'm gonna play after these first 30 days but all you need is to email me for that no? PM me then
I'm having more fun now but it's still not WoW-tier for me.
Here's what I think is really dumb.
From what I've seen, the max level shit, it seems pretty complicated, the combat. I see screens covered with buttons. But from level 1, it only gives you one action button. They might say it's to let you get used to things and keep it simple. Why would you do that knowing this shit gets complicated eventually? It seems to me that if you can't handle MORE THAN ONE ABILITY at level 1, how the hell are you gonna manage a ton of abilities at max level? It makes no sense to have the early levels so utterly dumbed down. It would be much better to introduce the complexity as soon as possible so you can get used to it. Level 1 should have started with a bunch of abilities and then build stuff on top of that. Especially because it makes no sense. For example the first ability as gladiator is spammed at level 1, but then you learn another ability that combo's with the first ability. So you end up doing ability 1 -> 2 -> 1 -> 2, etc, instead of just spamming 1 all the time. Why not do that from the beginning? The first level is utterly pointless because it teaches you nothing. You probably won't ever spam the first ability like that. Shit makes no sense.
Anyways I've leveled to gladiator to 16 and I just hit level 15 as marauder. I think marauder is more fun early on. A bunch of cool abilities. I love the stun, big axe swinging animation. I still hope it gets better though. Dungeons are super awkward without proper aggro abilities. Events are awkward too. I ended up fighting together with someone with an event, then we parted ways, having said nothing to each other the whole time. >:(
Which one of you is this? :expert
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/63112?p=3039574#post3039574
I love reading Rufus' complaints about FF14. They're super petty overblown non-issues that I've pretty much only seen him ever complain about.:ufup
Take issue with female dragon people being physical classes but not the literal midget race, breh. :umad
Also the Defiance skill is great for warrior. Increase in HP and threat, while lowering damage. It's basically defensive stance for warriors in WoW. Except you can turn it off. Which allows me to actually do damage when playing alone. Why couldn't WoW do it so fucking simple? Unbelievable.
Wait for Crowfall.
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With respect to GW2 and MMOs in the future, I'd love to see fights where every member of the raid had to be up to snuff. Not just in terms of "my dps is x and I don't stand in fire," I'm talking about actually doing shit. Same with healers.
With respect to GW2 and MMOs in the future, I'd love to see fights where every member of the raid had to be up to snuff. Not just in terms of "my dps is x and I don't stand in fire," I'm talking about actually doing shit. Same with healers.
Wildstar exposed a ton of raiders by doing this. Before the 40 man raid was downsized, there was only one guild in the world that was actually able to clear it, due to how many possible ways there were for individuals to basically wipe the entire raid group. Here's one of their members explaining how the raiding feels:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=naYJnhMdUW0
I'm finishing up all the post-game content in ff14 before i move on to heavensward and yeah it's a pain in the ass to do. a lot of it was designed for larger groups and it's such a pain in the ass to get a group assembled. queue times are regularly two to three hours bc the playerbase isn't large enough to have many ppl still going thru old content. it gets especially frustrating when you finally get a group and then end up with some shitty players or worse some assholes that don't listen. the base game only had me doing multiplayer content once or twice a week and that was way more enjoyable bc game progress wasn't so dependant on others.
My trouble with the upcoming MMOs is that they're basically all single-player style games with MMO shit slapped onto them. I saw preview vids of people playing Blade and Soul, Black Desert Online, just playing by themselves, doing quests, talking to NPCs. I mean these games are supposed to played with other people right? Show me that then. :snoop
Crowfall looks like amateur garbage but at least that game is trying to go for an MMO feel. :beli
WoW is shockingly dead btw. It was bad at the end of 5.4, which was towards the end of 2014. But now it's much, MUCH worse. Everything WoW-related seems dead, websites like openraid, etc. Pretty crazy to see.I wonder what's next. Legion seems like a forced attempt at nostalgia and might work for a few weeks. But ultimately people will quit again. Personally I'm not coming back until it's f2p, which probably means never.
Anyone playing Blade & Soul? I rolled on Old Man Cho as a 16 foot tall geriatric giant.Yup, same server. :-[ Whole lotta fetch quests in the few hours I did last night.
So Legion is looking pretty terrible. I'm starting to think WoD and Legion are 'expansions' that are meant to 'streamline' WoW so they can be released on console. WoD removed a ton of abilities from WoW and dumbed absolutely everything down, and Legion seems to do the same.IIRC its because they are giving it to Demon Hunter
It's funny cuz I was thinking about playing a demonology Warlock and thought yeah that seems cool, transform into a demon and shit :obama
then I found out the ability that allows you to do that, is being REMOVED with the coming 'expansion' :dead
I can't even keep straight who is alive anymore. Almost every leader or big name was either killed by a bad guy or became a bad guy and got killed. Tirion and Voljin went out like straight bitches too, no point to them being killed.
you're such a failure
if you want something stuck in the past play FF14
If you want modern game design play BDO or GW2
If you want a lobby game play Warframe or something
Playing WoW in the year of our lord, 2017?http://www.thebore.com/forum/index.php?topic=45102.0
Do you hate yourself?
http://www.thebore.com/forum/index.php?topic=45102.0
So ive been luruking in the wind itching to play an MMO, people seem to bum vanilla WoW, but im confused, I would have thought that the content of vanilla wow still exists, so I dont know the difference.
So ive been luruking in the wind itching to play an MMO, people seem to bum vanilla WoW, but im confused, I would have thought that the content of vanilla wow still exists, so I dont know the difference.Which MMOs have you played before and enjoyed, and which did you dislike and why? I've played tons of them and can probably suggest something.
also there's no cross-realm bullshit in vanilla
i played on a private server i did deadmines which took two hours, later i encountered the same people i partied with to do that dungeon
that feeling of running into someone you did a dungeon with, that's something unique i haven't experienced in so long
and it does a much better job of making the world feel 'alive' than having NPCs say a million lines
You think you remember how tedious Vanilla was but oh boy.
Also Vanilla rotations were, for the most part, boring as shit.
Legion WoW isn't much better.
So ive been luruking in the wind itching to play an MMO, people seem to bum vanilla WoW, but im confused, I would have thought that the content of vanilla wow still exists, so I dont know the difference.Which MMOs have you played before and enjoyed, and which did you dislike and why? I've played tons of them and can probably suggest something.
I'd actually suggest FFXIV to you, it's honestly one of the better MMORPGs. Good graphics, awesome sounds. You can level up in many different ways and it doesn't feel tedious. There are lots of classes, and you can put them all on the same character. You can play alone and also with others. There are some parts of the main scenario quests where you have to play with others, but that's fine. It's also a little overwhelming with content, but easy to get into. I dunno if you were into the FF series, but if you were, the sounds and the monsters will bring you down on a fun nostalgia trip.
Also Vanilla rotations were, for the most part, boring as shit.
Legion WoW isn't much better.
It really is though. The overall experience in Vanilla will always hold the #1 place in my heart, but it is a grindy tedious endeavor.
I wasn't talking about the overall experience. I was replying to 'Vanilla rotations'. They reduced every class to 'use on cooldown'. It's actually reminds me of Guild Wars 2 and the whole thing is just bizarre. 'Expansions' to dumb down the entire game, basically.
this is the Guild Wars 2 emporium, leave your trinities at the door please
^L2P scrub
Still not sure what you're looking for hungrymoob. I can tell you that the BDO leveling experience is grindy. What it has as a play option is the life sim/sandbox stuff. You can buy up real estate, establish a refinery or go deep into breeding horses. BDO is combat, beautiful world, and an interconnected web of systems for its sandbox.
Would help if I knew what you liked/disliked about the games you've tried.
bruh get some therapy before you get new games. you sound manic. not trying to be mean but I'm getting a little worried over here.
Okay so unbeknownst to all ya'll I reinstalled WoW again
well after 10 hours in ffxi i finally finished my first mission! helped a ton after i realized i had to buy spells for my black mage lol
enjoying it more and more after the confusing first few hours. it's still a pain in the ass navigating everything, and i don't look forward to manually making a party, but the game is growing on me more and more.