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General => Video Game Bored => Topic started by: Stoney Mason on July 01, 2014, 03:39:07 PM

Title: Emulation thread
Post by: Stoney Mason on July 01, 2014, 03:39:07 PM
I don't know if we already have one of these but I'm making one anyway cause I didn't see one when I did a couple of searches.


Every few years since I discovered emulation in the late 90's, I dip back into the scene on and off to check out what is going on and give a go to see what's changed and how things have improved. I've been doing that over the past week. This has probably been the longest stretch I've been away from it though since I started following it from the beginning. Just thought I'd post some general thoughts for people who may have been out of the scene for awhile.

MAME is mame. I mean for the first time it hit me a bit and I was a little sad and depressed that arcades are gone. They were just about dead the last time I tried MAME years ago but now its like the funeral and headstone have been up for a long ass time. It feels slightly different. MAME is reflective of that. Most of the big work has already been done. I saw nothing new that really blew me away. It was mostly the same as it was last time. Model 3 stuff is still sketchy but most of the important other stuff that I would actually care about runs pretty darn well. The last time I tried this NFL Blitz 2000 wasn't really playable unless you had some kind of super computer but now its easily playable with any decent real gaming PC. I will always love MAME because I grew up with and in arcades but its a bit sad to realize that there will never be another really big moment where a new generation of arcade games is brought over.

PSCX2 is definitely better than the last time I tried it. But often I found myself surprised at how sketchy it is on certain things. I suddenly was in the mood for some NBA Street and was disappointed to find it was kind of unplayable. I mean it can play but the performance is sketchy and all over the place. If I investigated enough I could probably figure out the right cocktail to make it more like it originally was but I find that futzing with a lot of stuff was what was needed in a good amount of games. That being said, I'm being over-critically. It does do a lot very well. I'm playing through Dragon Quest 8 for the first time, and outside of a few little graphical artifact issues, its been nearly flawless. Solid B+.

Dolphin. This one is way way better than it use to be. Needs a pretty beefy CPU to be effective but when you get it going, its great. As a comparison I remembered NBA street was on the gamecube and man it runs like a dream on this thing. As good as I remember it on the original system. Much better than the PS2 version. Rock solid graphics and sound. A lot of the dolphin/wii stuff is like that if you find the right cocktail of settings. Really impressive stuff. I was surprised at how much I preferred this one over the PSCX2.

PPSSPP which is the PSP emulator was another real big surprise. This thing is really good. It didn't exist the last time I was into emulation. But man it runs really good. And for me it opens up a library of games, that I never really experienced as I got out of the hardware PSP scene pretty early. Playing something like chinatown wars on this with an actual 360 controller is probably the best experience you can have with Chinatown Wars on any platform arguably since it never came to PC or Xbox. Really good emulator that I will spend a good amount of time with catching up.

DeSmuME/no$gba

Really this about Desmume but I wanted to mentioned no$gba because on low spec systems, it's still the better choice even though its barebones - like it doesn't do savestates on DS games. But on my fairly crappy laptop it could still run DS games full speed. Desmume couldn't on it. Although on my gaming desktop it runs just fine and is the better choice since it actually has most of what you want in an actual emulator compared to no$.

Both run pretty well although I find these emulators were very sketchy with sound. And of course playing in a split screen format like the DS on a monitor can be a bit weird.

Retroarch is one of those multi-core pieces of software that can run a lot of different emulators under the same front end. I was curious to try it because I've heard people constantly talking about it but never actually used it. It's okay.

I mean if you are really into the concept of a universal media box that does everything, I could see why such a piece of software and concept would be interesting to you but otherwise the current way I do emulation on my PC is fine even if it is through many different discreet programs that cover different platforms.

I didn't bother with Nes/snes/genesis/n64/psx and earlier stuff as I figured those scenes were pretty stable already.

That's pretty much it. Nothing especially deep on the topic but I thought in general we could have one big emulation thread that covers the subject when we want to discuss versus making individual threads on the topic that die immediately.

Title: Re: Emulation thread
Post by: Himu on July 01, 2014, 03:41:36 PM
NullDC is great! There are visual glitches in Shenmue but other than that it's great!
Title: Re: Emulation thread
Post by: Great Rumbler on July 01, 2014, 03:42:39 PM
ScummVM emulation on Android is exceedingly nice. I played through Curse of Monkey Island, The Dig, and Day of the Tentacle last year and they ran really well on my okay-but-not-that-great Android tablet; controls took a little getting used to, but they weren't a major hassle.
Title: Re: Emulation thread
Post by: demi on July 01, 2014, 03:46:55 PM
Good for a crutch fallback, but nothin beats an original tho.
Title: Re: Emulation thread
Post by: Raban on July 01, 2014, 03:51:50 PM
Try HIGAN, it's amazing
Title: Re: Emulation thread
Post by: Himu on July 01, 2014, 03:53:41 PM
Disagree. Shenmue 1 and 2 original have frame rate drops and all kinds of shit. Emulation made it even better. Not a single frame dip. Playing on the original is overrated.
Title: Re: Emulation thread
Post by: demi on July 01, 2014, 03:54:27 PM
Shenmue sucks anus nuggets tho. Nobody cares
Title: Re: Emulation thread
Post by: Himu on July 01, 2014, 03:55:17 PM
Emulation in hd and hooked up to my hdtv :rejoice

Fuck playing originals
Title: Re: Emulation thread
Post by: demi on July 01, 2014, 03:56:46 PM
That kind of attitude will get you gay bashed in Cali, Himu.
Title: Re: Emulation thread
Post by: Himu on July 01, 2014, 03:58:17 PM
Thank god I'm not gay :rejoice
Title: Re: Emulation thread
Post by: demi on July 01, 2014, 04:03:41 PM
 :beli
Title: Re: Emulation thread
Post by: Himu on July 01, 2014, 04:05:07 PM
:aah
Title: Re: Emulation thread
Post by: Bebpo on July 01, 2014, 04:25:00 PM
Yeah, I've seen people running 3d PSP games at 60fps with AA on their phones and it kind of blows me away.  I should check out a psp emulator for the remaining few psp games I still wanna play.
Title: Re: Emulation thread
Post by: Rufus on July 01, 2014, 04:25:01 PM
Yeah, PPSSPP is amazing. Thanks for mentioning Chinatown Wars. I played it on DS a bit, but totally forgot there was a PSP version. Gotta check that out.

PCSX2 has issues with Summoner, so I ended up buying the PC version. Champions of Norrath doesn't work well either, disappointingly. You have to run it in software mode and that requires a beastly Intel CPU cranked to 4GHz and above. :fbm

I tried retroarch on my netbook (which runs and Ubuntu variant), but the configuration drives me up the wall and the documentation is complete garbage. The config file comments are the best source of information. :beli GBA games run fine, but I can't get the mednafen core working for PS games. There are other options on Linux, but PCSX Reloaded has issues with a lot of games I've tried, but those that do run run full speed. When I had win7 on it I couldn't find an emulator that would run PS games.
Title: Re: Emulation thread
Post by: Beezy on July 01, 2014, 04:27:20 PM
Any working Sega Saturn emulators out there?
Title: Re: Emulation thread
Post by: Bebpo on July 01, 2014, 04:27:54 PM
I'm guessing Valkyria Chronicles 3 & Nayuta no Kiseki are real nice on ppsspp.
Title: Re: Emulation thread
Post by: demi on July 01, 2014, 04:28:12 PM
Yup, I used it to play some Legacy of Thor 2
Title: Re: Emulation thread
Post by: Himu on July 01, 2014, 04:28:40 PM
Quote from: Beezy on July 01, 2014, 04:27:20 PM
Any working Sega Saturn emulators out there?

Gonna try tonight but apparently this is the best one

http://www.emulator-zone.com/doc.php/saturn/satourne.html
Title: Re: Emulation thread
Post by: archnemesis on July 01, 2014, 04:48:00 PM
I used PCSX2 tonight for the first time in a while. Having the possibility to skip frames and using save states is nice although the emulation is far from perfect. Most of the time I prefer using my modded PS2 instead.
Title: Re: Emulation thread
Post by: Rufus on July 01, 2014, 04:50:32 PM
Quote from: Beezy on July 01, 2014, 04:27:20 PM
Any working Sega Saturn emulators out there?
There's SSF and Satourne. The former looks like it died, but it was/is good. All I ever tested on it was Panzer Dragoon though, which it played flawlessly.
Title: Re: Emulation thread
Post by: cool breeze on July 01, 2014, 04:55:03 PM
mame/arcade emulation is a different beast with the newer/better emulators only working with newer romsets.

if a game has trouble in PCSX2 and you just want to play it, rather than play it at higher resolutions, you can enable software mode (F9, I think).  if you have a quad core cpu, increase the number of rendering threads.  still not perfected, but you get better compatibility and fewer glitches in software mode.

and n64 emulation stagnated years ago and still has its problems.  in my experience gamecube/wii emulation is better.

I haven't gotten much into PSP or DS emulators, aside from messing with the android ds emulator.  few weeks back people found a way to render DS games at higher resolutions.

about android emulation, today some early videos of dolphin on the nvidia k1 were shown and it runs decently.  nvidia shield 2 will end up being a great portable emulation machine.

Quote from: Bebpo on July 01, 2014, 04:27:54 PM
I'm guessing Valkyria Chronicles 3 & Nayuta no Kiseki are real nice on ppsspp.

do you know if there's any progress on a translation patch for Nayuta?
Title: Re: Emulation thread
Post by: demi on July 01, 2014, 05:23:25 PM
I used SSF_012_beta -- thats what I have on my desktop here
Title: Re: Emulation thread
Post by: magus on July 01, 2014, 06:17:33 PM
yeah i used SSF beta too, i ran panzer dragoon saga until i realized that the encounter rate was slowly driving me crazy

then i played keio flying squadron 2 on it because i needed a really wacky jappy game
Title: Re: Emulation thread
Post by: Bebpo on July 01, 2014, 06:21:10 PM
Quote from: fryinghigh on July 01, 2014, 04:55:03 PM
Quote from: Bebpo on July 01, 2014, 04:27:54 PM
I'm guessing Valkyria Chronicles 3 & Nayuta no Kiseki are real nice on ppsspp.

do you know if there's any progress on a translation patch for Nayuta?

No idea.  But since it's an action rpg can probably just enjoy the gameplay and nice music.
Title: Re: Emulation thread
Post by: bork on July 01, 2014, 06:34:25 PM
Quote from: Formerly Known As Himuro on July 01, 2014, 03:55:17 PM
Emulation in hd and hooked up to my hdtv :rejoice

Fuck playing originals

I remember the first time I felt this way was back in the modded O.G. Xbox days.  Seeing arcade games like Street Fighter Alpha 2 and playing 4P X-Men The Arcade Game, perfectly, with awesome filters enabled, on a TV with game controllers made my jaw drop.  Back then I had a modded Neo-Geo AES with S-Video out.  The picture was awesome, but it had nothing on Neo-Geo games running emulated, in 480P, with filters, via component out.  Was done buying Neo-Geo games after that.   :lol

When I get my new PC tomorrow, I'd like to try some DC emulation and also see how Game Cube emulation fares.  Would love to play PN03 and F-Zero via HDMI in 1080P.  :drool
Title: Re: Emulation thread
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on July 01, 2014, 06:44:45 PM
Is there a Xbox 1 emulator? Really wanna play Rallisport ande Amped and Inside Pitch
Title: Re: Emulation thread
Post by: Himu on July 01, 2014, 07:28:59 PM
Quote from: MyNameIsMethodis on July 01, 2014, 06:44:45 PM
Is there a Xbox 1 emulator? Really wanna play Rallisport ande Amped and Inside Pitch

There's one but it is still being developed
Title: Re: Emulation thread
Post by: demi on July 01, 2014, 08:26:20 PM
Ya, when its done you can play the 4 games to play on it
Title: Re: Emulation thread
Post by: Beezy on July 01, 2014, 08:31:30 PM
Quote from: magus on July 01, 2014, 06:17:33 PM
yeah i used SSF beta too, i ran panzer dragoon saga until i realized that the encounter rate was slowly driving me crazy

then i played keio flying squadron 2 on it because i needed a really wacky jappy game
I just wanna play Dragon Force again. I haven't played it since the Saturn was still alive. :tocry
Title: Re: Emulation thread
Post by: Positive Touch on July 01, 2014, 09:11:58 PM
is boktai 3 translated yet

also i would like to say kega is still the greatest emulator ever
Title: Re: Emulation thread
Post by: Positive Touch on July 01, 2014, 09:30:44 PM
OH SHIT SIREN 2 WORKS WITH PCSX2 AND IT RUNS GREAT ON MY COMPUTER FUCK YES JESUS CHRIST MY LIFE IS SO AWESOME RIGHT NOW HELL YEAH
Title: Re: Emulation thread
Post by: Himu on July 01, 2014, 09:42:10 PM
Siren 2 :obama haven't played. How is it?
Title: Re: Emulation thread
Post by: Positive Touch on July 01, 2014, 09:59:12 PM
i dunno i just played the intro lol. but the original is one of my all-time favorites
Title: Re: Emulation thread
Post by: Bebpo on July 02, 2014, 09:23:05 PM
Quote from: Formerly Known As Himuro on July 01, 2014, 09:42:10 PM
Siren 2 :obama haven't played. How is it?

really good from the few hours I played back in the day.  Like the original but new creepy environments and one chapter is military so there's passable RE combat.
Title: Re: Emulation thread
Post by: DCharlieJP on July 02, 2014, 09:55:43 PM
Yeah, there is nothing like the real thing for me - and by that i mean the original hardware running RGB out to a monitor or an arcade machine

However, i just like having space and less clutter so i sold everything and went back to emu - for the time i spent on it was nicer to have the cash in my pocket than reams of games i'd never play
Title: Re: Emulation thread
Post by: Stoney Mason on July 11, 2014, 05:52:41 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8IDX2-JZ3Dc

Very cool. Dude is updating the rosters for GameCube NBA Street Vol 2.
Title: Re: Emulation thread
Post by: Himu on July 11, 2014, 06:22:04 PM
Put volume 2 on dd services
Title: Re: Emulation thread
Post by: Steve Contra on July 11, 2014, 06:23:46 PM
Volume 2 was sooooooooo good.  I wish they still made games like that  :'(
Title: Re: Emulation thread
Post by: Himu on July 11, 2014, 06:33:16 PM
Quote from: Steve Contra on July 11, 2014, 06:23:46 PM
Volume 2 was sooooooooo good.  I wish they still made games like that  :'(

:tocry
Title: Re: Emulation thread
Post by: Himu on July 11, 2014, 07:43:48 PM
Unbreak my heart, dammit.
Title: Re: Emulation thread
Post by: Stoney Mason on March 09, 2015, 06:26:08 PM
http://www.amiduos.com/

Ended up playing around with this, this weekend. Have to say I was impressed. Much better than Bluestacks.

Handled a high percentage of what I threw at it.
Title: Re: Emulation thread
Post by: kick51 on March 09, 2015, 06:40:30 PM
nullDC is pretty far from great
Title: Re: Emulation thread
Post by: CatsCatsCats on March 11, 2015, 09:45:31 PM
Maybe I should try out some gcn emu, I have an urge to play through Eternal Darkness again
Title: Re: Emulation thread
Post by: Rufus on March 12, 2015, 01:05:17 AM
Dolphin does GC too.
Seems to run almost flawlessly too, with some tweaking: https://wiki.dolphin-emu.org/index.php?title=Eternal_Darkness:_Sanity%27s_Requiem
Title: Re: Emulation thread
Post by: thisismyusername on March 12, 2015, 01:38:43 AM
Thread bump just reminded me I have China Town Wars PSP to play... I should probably do that and not on the PSP hardware I have sitting around here.
Title: Re: Emulation thread
Post by: Purrp Skirrp on July 23, 2015, 04:59:38 AM
I don't want to buy a Wii U, so I'm looking to get my :nintendo fix via Dolphin.

Looking for mostly arcade multiplayer games with select few worthwhile single player games (usually action/adventure games that still hold up).

Trying to clean up redundancies like selecting best game in respective series, unless multiple iterations are worth playing.

Qs: NBA Street Vol. 2 or 3? Both Viewtiful Joes or just 2? Both Pikmin or just 2? Best Monkey Ball for minigames?

Halp me brahs.

My List (all 4 stars and up on compatibility chart):

spoiler (click to show/hide)
Burnout 2: Point of Impact
Chibi-Robo!
Def Jam: Fight for NY
Kirby's Return to Dream Land
Klonoa
Mario Golf: Toadstool Tour
Mario Kart 64
Mario Power Tennis
NBA Street V3
Paper Mario   
Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door
Pikmin
Pikmin 2
Sega Soccer Slam
SSX 3
Super Mario Galaxy   
Super Mario Galaxy 2   
Super Mario Strikers
Super Monkey Ball 2
Tatsunoko vs. Capcom: Ultimate All-Stars
Tony Hawk's Underground 2
Viewtiful Joe
Viewtiful Joe 2
WarioWare: Smooth Moves
Wario Land: Shake It!
Xenoblade Chronicles

:expert
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Title: Re: Emulation thread
Post by: benjipwns on July 23, 2015, 05:32:32 AM
Vol. 2 > V3

Tony Hawk 3 > Underground 2; come at me
Title: Re: Emulation thread
Post by: bork on July 23, 2015, 09:27:59 AM
Play NBA Streets 1 and 2.  Play SSX Tricky and SSX3.  And where are PN03 and F-Zero GX on your list?  :punch
Title: Re: Emulation thread
Post by: Purrp Skirrp on July 23, 2015, 02:59:06 PM
Quote from: benjipwns on July 23, 2015, 05:32:32 AM
Vol. 2 > V3

Tony Hawk 3 > Underground 2; come at me

I was leaning towards this. Played 2/4 and THUG but never THUG2/TPS3.

And I really liked Vol. 2, but never tried 3 and that one has Mario and the gang in it! :derp

Quote from: bork laser on July 23, 2015, 09:27:59 AM
Play NBA Streets 1 and 2.  Play SSX Tricky and SSX3.  And where are PN03 and F-Zero GX on your list?  :punch

Really? Street 1 is worth playing? Why not just play 2? Tricky and SSX3 are probably different enough; both games have their respective fans that list it as their favorite of the series.

:lol Okok, I'll try PN03. It's like a rhythm shooter game? And I'll try F-Zero GX, but I never played any WipeOut/F-Zero/type of games. They just seem more on-rails than other racers.



Really wish Burnout 3 was on GC. Looks like Dolphin is a really solid emulator. Gonna pick up refurbished Wiimotes/Nunchuks, the GameCube adapter and a few controllers.

Probably most excited to finally finish Paper Mario and play its sequel :-[ :omg :hyper
Title: Re: Emulation thread
Post by: brob on July 23, 2015, 03:14:42 PM
THPS3 is the best in the series. Viewtiful Joe 1 is the better game of the series, 2 is superfluous imo. PN03 was only worth playing when you were a poor gamecube-only child, it's a very middling kind of boring tedium.
Title: Re: Emulation thread
Post by: Take My Breh Away on July 23, 2015, 03:25:05 PM
Mario Golf: TT one of the GOAT Golf games. Camelot never topped it. You can skip Tennis though. 

Also take Sega Soccer Slam over Mario Strikers. Make sure it's the PAL version though as it added a ton of unlockable content and has less framerate issues.

Oh and Paper Mario TTYD is probably the single best GC game made let alone one of the best RPG's ever made so yeah, go do that.
Title: Re: Emulation thread
Post by: demi on July 23, 2015, 03:58:39 PM
My Wii & Gamecube collections. Take your pick, you're sure to be enjoyed.

Code: [Select]
Wii

Arc Rise Fantasia
Baroque
Dragon Quest Swords: The Masked Queen and the Tower of Mirrors
Endless Ocean: Blue World
Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles: The Crystal Bearers
Final Fantasy Fables: Chocobo's Dungeon
Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn
Fragile Dreams: Farewell Ruins of the Moon
Kirby's Dream Collection
Klonoa
Little King's Story
Metroid Prime Trilogy
Metroid: Other M
Opoona
Resident Evil: Darkside Chronicles
Resident Evil: Umbrella Chronicles
Rhythm Heaven Fever
Sakura Wars: So Long, My Love
Sin & Punishment: Star Successor
Super Mario All-Stars 25th Anniversary
Super Mario Galaxy
Super Smash Brothers Brawl
Tales of Symphonia: Dawn of the New World
The Last Story
The Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword
Trauma Center: Second Opinion
Trauma Team
Wario Land Shake It!
Xenoblade Chronicles
Zack & Wiki: Quest For Barbaros' Treasure
Sonic Colors

Code: [Select]
Gamecube

007: Agent Under Fire
007: Everything or Nothing
007: From Russia With Love
1080 Avalanche
Animal Crossing
Batallion Wars
Baten Kaitos Origins
Baten Kaitos: Eternal Wings and the Lost Ocean
Beyond Good & Evil
Billy Hatcher and the Giant Egg
Chibi-Robo
Cubivore: Survival of the Fittest
Custom Robo
Donkey Kong: Jungle Beat
Donkey Konga 2
Eternal Darkness: Sanity's Requiem
Evolution Worlds
Final Fantasy: Crystal Chronicles
Freedom Fighters
Frogger's Adventures: The Rescue
F-Zero GX
Gauntlet: Dark Legacy
Geist
Gladius
Harvest Moon: A Wonderful Life
Ikaruga
Killer 7
Lord Of The Rings: The Third Age
Lost Kingdoms
Lost Kingdoms 2
Luigi's Mansion
Mario Kart: Double Dash!!
Mario Power Tennis
Mario Superstar Baseball
Medabots Infinity
Mega Man Anniversary Collection
Mega Man Network Transmission
Mega Man X Collection
Mega Man X: Command Mission
Metal Gear Solid: The Twin Snakes
Metroid Prime
Metroid Prime 2: Echoes
Metroid Prime 2: Echoes Bonus Disc
Midway Arcade Treasures
Midway Arcade Treasures 2
Midway Arcade Treasures 3
Nintendo Gamecube Preview Disc
Odama
P.N. 03
Pac-Man VS.
Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door
Phantasy Star Online Episode 1 & 2
Phantasy Star Online: Episode 3 Card Revolution
Pikmin
Pikmin 2
Resident Evil
Resident Evil 4
Resident Evil 4 Preview Disc
Resident Evil Zero
Second Sight
Skies of Arcadia Legends
Sonic Adventure 2 Battle
Sonic Heroes
Soul Calibur 2
Star Wars Rogue Squadron 3: Rebel Strike
Starfox Adventures
Starfox Assault
Super Mario Sunshine
Super Monkey Ball
Super Monkey Ball 2
Tales of Symphonia
The Haunted Mansion
The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess
Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 3
Tony Hawk's Underground
Tony Hawk's Underground 2
Ty the Tasmanian Tiger
Ty the Tasmanian Tiger 2: Bush Rescue
Ty the Tasmanian Tiger 3: Night of the Quinkan
Viewtiful Joe
Viewtiful Joe 2
Wario World
Wave Race: Blue Storm
XIII
XMen Legends 2: Rise of Apocalypse
The Simpsons Hit & Run
Title: Re: Emulation thread
Post by: bork on July 23, 2015, 04:29:03 PM
Quote from: Swishercrat on July 23, 2015, 02:59:06 PM
Really? Street 1 is worth playing? Why not just play 2? Tricky and SSX3 are probably different enough; both games have their respective fans that list it as their favorite of the series.

It's kinda like SSX in that sense.  Different atmosphere, too. 

Quote
:lol Okok, I'll try PN03. It's like a rhythm shooter game? And I'll try F-Zero GX, but I never played any WipeOut/F-Zero/type of games. They just seem more on-rails than other racers.

PN03 is a straight third-person shooter.  No rhythm stuff.  You need to dodge left and right or duck when enemies shoot you.  F-Zero GX is a Sega arcade racer...it's not as "rigid" as Wipeout.
Title: Re: Emulation thread
Post by: Purrp Skirrp on July 23, 2015, 05:36:05 PM
Thoughts on these? Loved MGS 3, didn't like 4 outside of the improved gameplay mechanics. Never played 1 or 2.

Title: Re: Emulation thread
Post by: Positive Touch on July 23, 2015, 06:24:15 PM
twin snakes is a half-assed upgrade of the original. it's still the better choice if you've never played the original tho.

I don't like skies of arcadia but a lot of people love it. it's a very traditional jrpg with a lighthearted animu script and a ton of random battles.

metroid prime is a love-it-or-hate-it game. very slow and methodical first person adventure game with lots of puzzles.
Title: Re: Emulation thread
Post by: Beezy on July 23, 2015, 08:03:57 PM
Skies of Arcadia Legends is crack. I'd also recommend Baten Kaitos & BK: Origins. I never actually beat Origins because I got distracted by other shit going on in life and then the laser fucked up, but it had the better and quicker battle system.
Title: Re: Emulation thread
Post by: Himu on July 23, 2015, 08:24:32 PM
KILLER 7
Title: Re: Emulation thread
Post by: Mr. Nobody on July 23, 2015, 08:45:47 PM
Memories of NBA Street Vol. 2  :lawd

I don't think I ever played Vol. 3
Title: Re: Emulation thread
Post by: Purrp Skirrp on July 24, 2015, 03:08:28 AM
Playing Street 2 and Chief Rocka comes on :mynicca

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YFbLRZCExBk

Dolphin is pretty awesome. This gonna be real good with GameCube controllers, though 360 controller is decent.

GameCube has a good library despite some questionable design decisions with the console itself.

Some solid multiplayer games too.

Local co-op on consoles :rejoice
Title: Re: Emulation thread
Post by: demi on July 24, 2015, 10:32:05 AM
But seriously check out Arc Rise Fantasia. Great JRPG for Wii, and is even playable with a Gamecube controller. I consider it a Gamecube RPG by law :lawd

Sonic Colors is also playable with Gamecube controller.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Wii_games_that_use_the_Nintendo_GameCube_controller
Title: Re: Emulation thread
Post by: Himu on July 24, 2015, 10:40:23 AM
NBA street 2 is godlike
Title: Re: Emulation thread
Post by: Purrp Skirrp on July 24, 2015, 06:34:03 PM
:trashLIST WARZ:trash


GameCube
(http://i.imgur.com/ala4QKG.png)
:gladbron


Wii
(http://i.imgur.com/HTTeGag.png)
:whoo
Title: Re: Emulation thread
Post by: demi on July 24, 2015, 06:47:33 PM
Good list - not that I endorse your blatant piracy
Title: Re: Emulation thread
Post by: Purrp Skirrp on July 24, 2015, 06:52:09 PM
Hey, I bought a Wii U...twice :nintendo :snoop
Title: Re: Emulation thread
Post by: Purrp Skirrp on July 25, 2015, 01:27:34 AM
Trying to perfect each game's emulation is annoying af and I am too much of a lazy POS to tweak each game individually :idont

Overestimating one's abilities :itagaki



>.> Terrisus Scale of Video Game Accessibility & Required Efforts >.>

PC: emulation >>> PC: modding >>> PC: KB&M >>> PC: Xbox 360 controller support >>> Console: patches and installs >>> Console: playing off disc >>> Console: playing off hard drive (once downloaded)

Most effort <-------------------------------------------------------------- Minimal Effort -----------------------------------------------------------------------> No Effort



I've put off New Vegas because of dealing with mods, despite knowing about Nexus. Need a flabby :gaben emoticon.
Title: Re: Emulation thread
Post by: benjipwns on July 25, 2015, 01:51:34 AM
Street 1 is like only slightly exaggerated, kinda like the first NBA Jam was compared to what comes later. 2 I think hits the best combination of keeping the basketball basics while not going absurdly over the top. V3 and after seem to have design that doesn't know what it's trying to do. 2 especially really knows what its design goals were even in the menus.

THPS 3 is like the last of the "old" Tony Hawk franchise, before THUG 2 re-introduces it as a separate mode. I think THUG 2 is the best of the games after 3 by far, but 3 fits with 2 and 1 in terms of how I can pop it in without a save and have a fun hour or two unlocking almost every level and then going back to do goals.

Actually, a few years ago, I want to say around 2012, I went online with THPS3 and there were actually two other dudes playing it. On the one suburbs map they were trying to vert move to manual to revert to grind to revert to manual to vert move from one half pipe along a fence/wall to another.  :aah

It had been like five years since I even played it so was struggling to pull off regular manuals and revert combos so I was just watching for a bit until they were like "try it taco" and I promptly pulled off every step until the grind where my guy fell face first and ground that across the wall and into the half pipe.

 :bow blood streaks from biffing it :bow2

It's kinda crazy how they put out all of those games on like nine month dev cycles and did stuff like completely rewrite the physics engine from 2 to 3 to 4. I think 3 is like a bunch of stuff they cobbled onto Renderware so they could meet the deadline. And then when they started to add the cars and climbing and bullshit. And the levels got bigger and bigger.

Then they made the Call of Duty: Ghosts co-op mode thing before:
(http://images.eurogamer.net/2013/articles/1/6/9/2/5/2/9/140507007638.jpg)
Title: Re: Emulation thread
Post by: benjipwns on July 25, 2015, 01:54:52 AM
New Super Mario Bros Wii will run like perfectly on Dolphin even with an Intel GPU.

I know this because my laptop has the bluestooths so I was like I'll try the wiimote with Dolphin, and it was the smallest game I had. It's like less than 500MB.

So I'd toss that in your list. It looks pretty nice at high resolutions kinda like DKCR. Or Kirby's Epic Yarn, etc.

EDIT: Plus you can map it to almost any controller in existence since it uses two buttons and exactly one motion control.
Title: Re: Emulation thread
Post by: Himu on July 25, 2015, 01:47:10 PM
I only got to play THPS 3 psx version that my cousin got for Christmas. That was the same Christmas I got my ps2. By then, I couldn't care about Tony Hawk because I had MGS2 and FFX dammit.
Title: Re: Emulation thread
Post by: Purrp Skirrp on July 25, 2015, 05:24:56 PM
Going legit brehs.

Mario Tennis via VC is a serious reason going Wii over Dolphin. Game was awesome and emulates like shit.


My special fellow splurg:

GameCube compatible Wii. Getting an HDMI converter so I can hook it up to my component-less TV:
(http://i.imgur.com/bEiq9jI.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/jPX8dP7.png)

(http://i.imgur.com/zROgkPU.png)

(http://i.imgur.com/TjXx360.png)

Player's Choice labels :pacspit
Title: Re: Emulation thread
Post by: Purrp Skirrp on July 25, 2015, 05:30:01 PM
RIP Neversoft.

New Tony Hawk is trying to appeal to my nostalgia, but looks awful.

I would be up for a new Skate though. Does that studio still exist?

Title: Re: Emulation thread
Post by: brob on July 25, 2015, 07:30:15 PM
Quote from: Swishercrat on July 25, 2015, 05:30:01 PM
RIP Neversoft.

New Tony Hawk is trying to appeal to my nostalgia, but looks awful.

I would be up for a new Skate though. Does that studio still exist?

no.
Title: Re: Emulation thread
Post by: demi on July 25, 2015, 07:56:50 PM
See how easy it is to just do it legit? Piracy is for suckers. Nothing beats an original.

And FFNY > Vendetta
Title: Re: Emulation thread
Post by: Purrp Skirrp on July 25, 2015, 08:07:13 PM
Quote from: demi on July 25, 2015, 07:56:50 PM
See how easy it is to just do it legit? Piracy is for suckers. Nothing beats an original.

And FFNY > Vendetta

I see some cases for it like if something never releases, but yeah the original hardware is just going to work as intended no bullshit.

And honestly, I like having a physical library.

:expert


Vendetta still good though? FFNY is $20 more. AKI wrestling games :lawd

Quote from: brob on July 25, 2015, 07:30:15 PM
Quote from: Swishercrat on July 25, 2015, 05:30:01 PM
RIP Neversoft.

New Tony Hawk is trying to appeal to my nostalgia, but looks awful.

I would be up for a new Skate though. Does that studio still exist?

no.

 :goty
Title: Re: Emulation thread
Post by: chronovore on July 25, 2015, 10:09:03 PM
Quote from: Swishercrat on July 25, 2015, 05:24:56 PM
Going legit brehs.

Mario Tennis via VC is a serious reason going Wii over Dolphin. Game was awesome and emulates like shit.


My special fellow splurg:

GameCube compatible Wii. Getting an HDMI converter so I can hook it up to my component-less TV:
(http://i.imgur.com/bEiq9jI.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/jPX8dP7.png)

(http://i.imgur.com/zROgkPU.png)

(http://i.imgur.com/TjXx360.png)

Player's Choice labels :pacspit

Def Jam Vendetta is a cool ass game. Sad and sorry that AKI was one of the last victims of EA before Electronic Arts started trying to redefine itself by being less alpha-predator.
Title: Re: Emulation thread
Post by: chronovore on July 25, 2015, 10:16:18 PM
On topic:

Blatant piracy is bad, I agree. That said, companies which basically don't re-release or screw up releases of their back catalog are inviting this kind of behavior. That's right, I'm blaming the victim... :cosby.gif
Title: Re: Emulation thread
Post by: mormapope on July 26, 2015, 12:14:21 AM
Chances are if your game didn't physically come out in 2013 or later, there won't be new copies on shelves anymore. Which means a seller or vendor will be selling it used.

Used game prices are dependent on a lot of things, but I have no sympathy for used game sellers that price gouge the fuck out of their inventory hoping someone bites. If you pay $200 for Earthbound used on the SNES, and you aren't doing it for collection purposes, you're a sucker and an idiot. Buying a Wii-U just to play Earthbound legally would also mean you're an idiot.

Physical only media has a timeframe of acceptable cost equaling demand. I don't feel bad for used game sellers that lose customers that wise up to their bullshit. If game publishers like Nintendo moved past 2007 marketplace practices, they would make more money and collectors wouldn't have to shell out $50 for scratched Gamecube discs.
Title: Re: Emulation thread
Post by: Purrp Skirrp on July 26, 2015, 02:53:20 PM
Quote from: Beezy on July 23, 2015, 08:03:57 PM
Skies of Arcadia Legends is crack. I'd also recommend Baten Kaitos & BK: Origins. I never actually beat Origins because I got distracted by other shit going on in life and then the laser fucked up, but it had the better and quicker battle system.

Remember reading a while back that the V.O. for Baten Kaitos is horrible? That true? Otherwise, people seem to recommend both as good games. Doesn't it have a unique card battle system too?

Bad V.O. bugs the shit outta me.
Title: Re: Emulation thread
Post by: Rufus on July 26, 2015, 02:55:57 PM
Sound quality is the real problem. It's very tinny, but I think (strangely) setting it to mono fixes that. Otherwise it's no worse than other games from the era.
Title: Re: Emulation thread
Post by: Purrp Skirrp on July 26, 2015, 03:05:25 PM
Hmm. I was never into JRPGs much, but mainly due to not bothering with them. I want to try out the genre, but I'm trying to only go with some of the best/or more accessible titles from the GC/Wii era.

I'll own soon:

Arc Rise Fantasia
Xenoblade Chronicles
Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door

Are these the best of the best? Any noticeable admissions besides maybe Baiten Kaitos series?

Something to keep in mind: I'm not opposed to anime, but I also never really got into it either besides my Toonami days so titles like Tales of Symphonia got me confused whether I'd like it.

:idont
Title: Re: Emulation thread
Post by: demi on July 26, 2015, 03:21:23 PM
You need SKies of Arcadia, but its kinda pricey (up there with Xenoblade)
Title: Re: Emulation thread
Post by: Purrp Skirrp on July 26, 2015, 03:32:13 PM
Yeah, I spent too much for now, but I'll add it to my list. Space/air pirates :aah
Title: Re: Emulation thread
Post by: Beezy on July 26, 2015, 03:48:31 PM
Quote from: Swishercrat on July 26, 2015, 02:53:20 PM
Bad V.O. bugs the shit outta me.
Then why are you buying Arc Rise Fantasia? :lol
Title: Re: Emulation thread
Post by: mormapope on July 26, 2015, 03:51:44 PM
Thousand Year Door is the best RPG on the Gamecube. Combat never becomes dull, the right amount of challenge, really neat and whimsical settings, great writing, isn't too short or too long. Arguably the best game with Mario in the title.
Title: Re: Emulation thread
Post by: Himu on July 26, 2015, 03:56:53 PM
When it comes to video game piracy of old generation games I don't understand how any gamer with a brain could justify guilt tripping pirates given that:

1. piracy has been the main form of cataloging gaming history for decades
2. most developers do not re-release, and in some cases, CAN'T re-release
3. sometimes prices of original games get ridiculously out of hand
4. gamers have a "future is better" "now is better" "the past is the past and thus inferior" policy, making games all about the now, and this makes games of the past always be interpreted as obsolete by the masses, which the gaming companies aren't going to re-release shit - besides top historical classic games - because gamers have deemed anything beyond the last generation unplayable

Factor all of these above and gamers AND game companies have been complicit in killing gamings history. Piracy is then, THE way to go for the most part and has been THE main source of cataloging game history.

Will NBA Street Volume 2 ever be re-released? Doubt it.

Will SSX3 ever be re-released? Doubt it.

Will we ever get Pocky and Rocky re-released? Doubt it.

Pirate that shit.
Title: Re: Emulation thread
Post by: Stoney Mason on July 26, 2015, 03:59:54 PM
meh. Let's just focus on the games or the emulation. No one is going to preach anybody into stopping piracy or continuing piracy. The emulation market exists. It isn't going anywhere. Emulation is cool and provides services that the original consoles couldn't.
Title: Re: Emulation thread
Post by: Himu on July 26, 2015, 04:07:10 PM
Do you have Rhythm Heaven Wii on your list?
Title: Re: Emulation thread
Post by: Purrp Skirrp on July 26, 2015, 04:12:59 PM
Quote from: Beezy on July 26, 2015, 03:48:31 PM
Quote from: Swishercrat on July 26, 2015, 02:53:20 PM
Bad V.O. bugs the shit outta me.
Then why are you buying Arc Rise Fantasia? :lol

Fuck! Demi :punch

There's an undub iso of the game and I kind of rolled my eyes thinking it was just weaboos being picky about the dub. Hopefully the dub isn't that bad.

Regardless, if the game's good, it's something I can overlook. This is video games we're talking about; bad V.O. is commonplace. I'll check out Baten Kaitos and its sequel eventually.



Good points about piracy. It's not black or white.

#4 is too true and really weird. I get this industry is built on technology and that's always evolving, but some games hold up really well and have nothing newer that's comparably better.

Some of these prices are ridiculous too. If the Wii U can run Wii games, isn't it a given that it could run GameCube games as well? Why doesn't Nintendo release digital versions of these games if they don't bother reprinting their older games?

Can't imagine it cost much with the Wii U's backwards compatibility built in (not really emulating anything). Nintendo gonna Nintendo I guess.


And no Rhythm Heaven, but I'll add it.  :hump myself by amassing such a backlog. It's gonna be fun though going through a lot of good games :hyper
Title: Re: Emulation thread
Post by: demi on July 26, 2015, 04:37:36 PM
Quote from: Queen of Ice on July 26, 2015, 03:56:53 PM
When it comes to video game piracy of old generation games I don't understand how any gamer with a brain could justify guilt tripping pirates given that:

1. piracy has been the main form of cataloging gaming history for decades
2. most developers do not re-release, and in some cases, CAN'T re-release
3. sometimes prices of original games get ridiculously out of hand
4. gamers have a "future is better" "now is better" "the past is the past and thus inferior" policy, making games all about the now, and this makes games of the past always be interpreted as obsolete by the masses, which the gaming companies aren't going to re-release shit - besides top historical classic games - because gamers have deemed anything beyond the last generation unplayable

Factor all of these above and gamers AND game companies have been complicit in killing gamings history. Piracy is then, THE way to go for the most part and has been THE main source of cataloging game history.

Will NBA Street Volume 2 ever be re-released? Doubt it.

Will SSX3 ever be re-released? Doubt it.

Will we ever get Pocky and Rocky re-released? Doubt it.

Pirate that shit.

or u could just get a job and buy it. do u live in somalia? no.
Title: Re: Emulation thread
Post by: demi on July 26, 2015, 04:39:30 PM
Quote from: Beezy on July 26, 2015, 03:48:31 PM
Quote from: Swishercrat on July 26, 2015, 02:53:20 PM
Bad V.O. bugs the shit outta me.
Then why are you buying Arc Rise Fantasia? :lol

And here you are recommending Baten Kaitos :lol

Dont act like that game is the pinnacle of VO
Title: Re: Emulation thread
Post by: Beezy on July 26, 2015, 10:47:00 PM
Don't act like they're comparable. Arc Rise is bottom of the barrel when it comes to voice acting. :gurl
Title: Re: Emulation thread
Post by: demi on July 27, 2015, 12:51:04 AM
They most certainly are comparable - at least Ryfia doesnt sound like shes speaking into an echo chamber
Title: Re: Emulation thread
Post by: Himu on July 27, 2015, 01:31:37 AM
Quote from: demi on July 26, 2015, 04:37:36 PM
Quote from: Queen of Ice on July 26, 2015, 03:56:53 PM
When it comes to video game piracy of old generation games I don't understand how any gamer with a brain could justify guilt tripping pirates given that:

1. piracy has been the main form of cataloging gaming history for decades
2. most developers do not re-release, and in some cases, CAN'T re-release
3. sometimes prices of original games get ridiculously out of hand
4. gamers have a "future is better" "now is better" "the past is the past and thus inferior" policy, making games all about the now, and this makes games of the past always be interpreted as obsolete by the masses, which the gaming companies aren't going to re-release shit - besides top historical classic games - because gamers have deemed anything beyond the last generation unplayable

Factor all of these above and gamers AND game companies have been complicit in killing gamings history. Piracy is then, THE way to go for the most part and has been THE main source of cataloging game history.

Will NBA Street Volume 2 ever be re-released? Doubt it.

Will SSX3 ever be re-released? Doubt it.

Will we ever get Pocky and Rocky re-released? Doubt it.

Pirate that shit.

or u could just get a job and buy it. do u live in somalia? no.

Pretty sure you were the one bragging about your cd tray colection of burned DC games. :lol
Title: Re: Emulation thread
Post by: demi on July 27, 2015, 07:52:53 AM
I was a dumb yung kid full of virility and without money - I'm no saint
Title: Re: Emulation thread
Post by: Himu on July 27, 2015, 02:32:05 PM
Well, the games I emulate I tend to already own. :yeshrug
Title: Re: Emulation thread
Post by: Purrp Skirrp on July 27, 2015, 02:48:40 PM
Guys, pls, I swear I'll buy 'em all :brazilcry


I don't feel morally corrupt emulating games I already own (maybe I'll do the Arc Rise undub), but it's just the whole emulation process that I find annoying. Tinkering with settings and configs chasing perfection.

Maybe I'm overestimating how many games have problems, but it seemed like most were certainly playable, but with a host of annoying glitches (like videos and menu overlays being fucked up in Street V2).
Title: Re: Emulation thread
Post by: Positive Touch on July 27, 2015, 03:12:26 PM
the price is worth the glitches
Title: Re: Emulation thread
Post by: Positive Touch on July 27, 2015, 03:13:56 PM
and for real as long as you can get the game running relatively smoothly, emulation >>> the real thing. being able to bypass hardware limitations and shitty dev decisions (fuck you save points!) is a godsend.
Title: Re: Emulation thread
Post by: D3RANG3D on July 27, 2015, 03:18:12 PM
>Overpaying for nostalgia...

spoiler (click to show/hide)
I don't mind paying 5-20 bucks for some "classic game" anymore than that ... :comeon
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spoiler (click to show/hide)
(http://i.minus.com/ibnOgB2dQm9JJc.gif)
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Title: Re: Emulation thread
Post by: Stoney Mason on July 27, 2015, 07:15:45 PM
Quote from: Positive Touch on July 27, 2015, 03:13:56 PM
and for real as long as you can get the game running relatively smoothly, emulation >>> the real thing. being able to bypass hardware limitations and shitty dev decisions (fuck you save points!) is a godsend.

This. Especially the save states. I got rid of all my retro hardware years ago and never looked back. Obviously there are some systems like the Saturn, that never got really emulated properly so I'm fine with that hardware but collecting old snes, n64, gamecube, systems etc doesn't interest me in the least. But playing the games is something I have interest in. And more power to those who feel the opposite and like to collect the stuff. 
Title: Re: Emulation thread
Post by: Himu on July 27, 2015, 07:19:32 PM
Dreamcast is one of the few systems I can see myself collecting again, because Dreamcast, unlike other systems looks AMAZING hooked up to HD. The other systems need emulation to look good on a modern tv, but not DC because VGA.
Title: Re: Emulation thread
Post by: Positive Touch on July 27, 2015, 07:48:53 PM
eh it does look good but even still save states and no disc loading is pretty hard to turn down
Title: Re: Emulation thread
Post by: Himu on July 27, 2015, 08:27:59 PM
Too true. However, NullDC does not have save states. Demul does, but it's not as stable and requires more resources and more fiddling than NullDC.
Title: Re: Emulation thread
Post by: bork on July 28, 2015, 02:28:52 PM
Quote from: Queen of Ice on July 27, 2015, 07:19:32 PM
Dreamcast is one of the few systems I can see myself collecting again, because Dreamcast, unlike other systems looks AMAZING hooked up to HD. The other systems need emulation to look good on a modern tv, but not DC because VGA.

I have a Dreamcast hooked up to a TV with a VGA cable.  It looks OK I guess.  The resolution is pretty low.
Title: Re: Emulation thread
Post by: Himu on July 28, 2015, 02:49:39 PM
Get this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JXvXE-Nqr54
Title: Re: Emulation thread
Post by: Purrp Skirrp on July 30, 2015, 12:45:08 PM
Edit: Been getting off topic.

After looking at prices, I'm glad Atlus reprinted a bunch of their classic PS2 RPGs.

Nocturne costing $20 instead of the inflated AF prices from a few years back :rejoice


Going to mess with PCSX2. Is this a better emulator than Dolphin? Its site says 94% of the PS2's library is playable. Didn't know PS2 emulation was this good.
Title: Re: Emulation thread
Post by: Rufus on July 31, 2015, 01:21:45 AM
What the compatibility list deems "playable" may still have big flaws. Most major titles run fine, with some notable exceptions like MGS3. The only title I completed on PCSX2 was a Persona 4 undub which ran flawlessly, some slowdown notwithstanding (which was likely owed to my AMD CPU).

Dolphin is in much more active development, though PCSX2 seems to be picking up again. They recently started doing progress reports like Dolphin.
Title: Re: Emulation thread
Post by: Purrp Skirrp on July 31, 2015, 02:35:25 AM
Seems like overall it's serviceable, but once I replace the AC adapter cable for my PS2 fat I'm going to use that instead. Most PS2 games are priced well anyway.

I wish there was a good OG Xbox emulator :'(
Title: Re: Emulation thread
Post by: Stoney Mason on July 31, 2015, 07:36:13 AM
I played Dragon Quest 8 on pcsx2 and other than a few tweaks I had to perform, I thought it did well. I think PCsx2 is pretty decent. I just think dolphin is more impressive because its emulating "superior" hardware and it seems to do it better.
Title: Re: Emulation thread
Post by: Stoney Mason on February 02, 2016, 07:19:39 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MsuKQfsu-zk

Impressive feat. Still a long long way's off.

Title: Re: Emulation thread
Post by: qq more on February 02, 2016, 07:26:03 PM
Quote from: Stoney Mason on February 02, 2016, 07:19:39 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MsuKQfsu-zk

Impressive feat. Still a long long way's off.
holy shit, thats really awesome so far.
Title: Re: Emulation thread
Post by: Stoney Mason on June 26, 2016, 11:52:26 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KS7Fl30JZcA
Title: Re: Emulation thread
Post by: bork on August 10, 2016, 12:19:29 PM
What's the best arcade emulator out there now?  (With a GUI)
Title: Re: Emulation thread
Post by: Rufus on August 10, 2016, 12:38:21 PM
MAME is still king as far as I know.

Here's a list of frontends:
http://emulation.gametechwiki.com/index.php/MAME#Frontends
Title: Re: Emulation thread
Post by: Purrp Skirrp on September 13, 2016, 12:47:43 AM
https://u.pomf.is/tdizly.mp4
Title: Re: Emulation thread
Post by: a slime appears on September 29, 2016, 08:54:02 AM
Got a free Raspberry Pi 0. It's not much but I'm excited to setup and have a dedicated emulation box for my HDTV! :hyper

If emulation quality is good then I might spring for the latest Pi 3 so I can get full-speed PS1 and N64 games going.
Title: Re: Emulation thread
Post by: Stoney Mason on October 15, 2016, 12:58:16 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0j-esEcTCQ

Making nice progress.
Title: Re: Emulation thread
Post by: benjipwns on October 21, 2016, 11:32:59 PM
Five years later, Snes9x is alive!

http://www.snes9x.com/phpbb3/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=23752

The main change is that they changed the CPU(?) core from the old hacky type that was different and doing speed fixes for each game to a more accurate universal one written by byuu (bsnes/higan) along with some other various updates and clean-ups.

spoiler (click to show/hide)
nobody cares, zsnes for life :doge
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Title: Re: Emulation thread
Post by: Great Rumbler on October 21, 2016, 11:37:36 PM
Been playing a lot of Star Ocean 2, Legend of Mana, Saga Fronter, and Breath of Fire 3 since it's been a while.

:piss Final Fantasy :piss2
Title: Re: Emulation thread
Post by: BobFromPikeCreek on December 14, 2016, 09:28:37 AM
Why are all emulator front ends so god damn user unfriendly? Anyone have any recs that:

1) Aren't a nightmare to configure.
2) Work well with the steam overlay/Steam Link.
3) Can be navigated entirely via controller.

Spent like an hour setting up Attact-Mode last night only to find out I can't trigger the steam overlay with it and it freaks my Steam Link the fuck out when I try to return to Steam. Then spent like two hours trying not to hang myself while trying to set up EmulationStation.
Title: Re: Emulation thread
Post by: Rufus on December 14, 2016, 10:47:37 AM
I like Retroarch, but it gets more difficult to configure the more you demand of it (game specific configs, overlays, controllers when there's no pre-configured template). That said, it has an XMB copy for a UI and is completely navigable with a controller. The 360 controller works out of the box.

I have no idea how well it works with a Steam Link. There is a GAF thread where some of the devs hang out though, who are always helpful if you ask nicely.

Just found this, which is relatively recent and seems reasonably well explained:
http://blog.followtrain.tv/2016/04/steam-link-retroarch-ice-emulators-snes-genesis/
Title: Re: Emulation thread
Post by: BobFromPikeCreek on December 14, 2016, 10:52:28 AM
RetroArch looks pretty cool actually. Thanks! I'll give it a try later.
Title: Re: Emulation thread
Post by: Stoney Mason on January 13, 2017, 02:06:50 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fr7FQgfvUhs&feature=youtu.be
Title: Re: Emulation thread
Post by: zomgee on January 13, 2017, 03:42:00 PM
Quote from: BobFromPikeCreek on December 14, 2016, 09:28:37 AM
Why are all emulator front ends so god damn user unfriendly? Anyone have any recs that:

1) Aren't a nightmare to configure.
2) Work well with the steam overlay/Steam Link.
3) Can be navigated entirely via controller.

Spent like an hour setting up Attact-Mode last night only to find out I can't trigger the steam overlay with it and it freaks my Steam Link the fuck out when I try to return to Steam. Then spent like two hours trying not to hang myself while trying to set up EmulationStation.

Have you even approached HyperSpin/RocketLauncher? It's what I use.
Title: Re: Emulation thread
Post by: a slime appears on January 14, 2017, 10:00:14 AM
Out of curiosity anyone run into G-sync destroying their perf on emulators?

Having g-sync ticked to full-screen and windowed was my culprit, wtf.
Title: Re: Emulation thread
Post by: Stoney Mason on January 17, 2017, 11:56:10 PM
The recent Nintendo news has made me want to play a Zelda game so I decided to give Windwaker a shot since I owned it at one point but never really played it.


Discovered this texture mode for it which is really nice.

http://onthegreatsea.tumblr.com/post/150927505610/hypatias-hi-res-wind-waker-texture-pack-v-10

I run it on the ishiiruka branch of dolphin and it runs extremely well. An example of it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_pNEbePpn4

I use a different shader set than the one in that video so the lighting is a bit different for me but you get the idea.

The remastered version exists for the Wii U emulator but my computer struggles with that emulator especially being on an AMD card.
Title: Re: Emulation thread
Post by: Sho Nuff on January 29, 2017, 02:29:05 PM
Holy shit, apparently someone made NesicaXLive work on an unencrypted PC :O

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CUFc-MsUsAAYEuT.jpg)

(Btw Nesica is the system that runs on Japanese cabinets and is basically a legit HyperSpin)
Title: Re: Emulation thread
Post by: bork on January 29, 2017, 07:47:54 PM
Quote from: Sho Nuff on January 29, 2017, 02:29:05 PM
Holy shit, apparently someone made NesicaXLive work on an unencrypted PC :O

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CUFc-MsUsAAYEuT.jpg)

(Btw Nesica is the system that runs on Japanese cabinets and is basically a legit HyperSpin)

Holy shit!  But what does this mean?  People can download brand new games for free somehow?
Title: Re: Emulation thread
Post by: bork on January 29, 2017, 07:58:50 PM
Looks like this was cracked a while ago?

Found a torrent with most of the games ready to go.  I wonder if this will run well enough on the GPD WIN...
Title: Re: Emulation thread
Post by: doctavius bonbon on January 30, 2017, 12:35:29 AM
http://obsrv.org/

Two years late to the party, but got a group of four players to play RE Outbreak on a fan server last night. Never got an opportunity to play it during the PS2 days before the official server got shut down, so it was cool being able to get a group of total newbies to run through it. It doesn't look too terrible with the textures and resolution bumped up, and having discord made it a billion times easier to coordinate.
Title: Re: Emulation thread
Post by: MMaRsu on April 26, 2017, 08:55:54 AM
Hi yall bore bro's

Is there any way to improve FPS even more in Dolphin or PCSX2 without upgrading my laptop? It seems like most games run better on software mode in PCSX2 and especially on OPENGL. Which seems weird to me because I think before I upgraded to W10 I got better FPS on D3D9.

These here be my specs:

Intel I7 QM2670 @ 2.20ghz
GT540M
8GB Ram

I know it's a bad laptop but I don't get why some games cant stay at locked 60
Title: Re: Emulation thread
Post by: Stoney Mason on April 26, 2017, 09:15:44 AM
Maybe try ishiiruka branch of dolphin. That's supposed to run better on older/lesser hardware.

https://forums.dolphin-emu.org/Thread-unofficial-ishiiruka-dolphin-custom-version
Title: Re: Emulation thread
Post by: thisismyusername on April 26, 2017, 09:50:19 AM
Quote from: Dosukebe on January 29, 2017, 07:47:54 PM
Quote from: Sho Nuff on January 29, 2017, 02:29:05 PM
Holy shit, apparently someone made NesicaXLive work on an unencrypted PC :O

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CUFc-MsUsAAYEuT.jpg)

(Btw Nesica is the system that runs on Japanese cabinets and is basically a legit HyperSpin)

Holy shit!  But what does this mean?  People can download brand new games for free somehow?

LTTP, but:

Quote
(http://i.imgur.com/UNJQRCB.png)

Yes. This is the only way to get the P4U2 2.0 patch instead of the 1.5 or whatever Arc/Atlus never updated the console versions to in terms of balance for the shadow characters.

Note, NESICA-LIVE has a warning that you can edit out (like I did) on certain games and the thing (this is from last summer, so I haven't gotten an updated if there is one version) can be finicky. Still having P4U on PC. :rejoice

Quote from: doctavius bonbon on January 30, 2017, 12:35:29 AM
http://obsrv.org/

Two years late to the party, but got a group of four players to play RE Outbreak on a fan server last night. Never got an opportunity to play it during the PS2 days before the official server got shut down, so it was cool being able to get a group of total newbies to run through it. It doesn't look too terrible with the textures and resolution bumped up, and having discord made it a billion times easier to coordinate.

Did they English the text with a patch like FF12 International? I dunno if I'd want to run through that with Japanese menus.
Title: Re: Emulation thread
Post by: Rufus on April 26, 2017, 10:14:33 AM
Quote from: MMaRsu on April 26, 2017, 08:55:54 AM
Hi yall bore bro's

Is there any way to improve FPS even more in Dolphin or PCSX2 without upgrading my laptop? It seems like most games run better on software mode in PCSX2 and especially on OPENGL. Which seems weird to me because I think before I upgraded to W10 I got better FPS on D3D9.

These here be my specs:

Intel I7 QM2670 @ 2.20ghz
GT540M
8GB Ram

I know it's a bad laptop but I don't get why some games cant stay at locked 60
Emulators need a good CPU with high clock speeds. 2.2GHz probably isn't cutting it. Check the wiki for the games you have issues with, there may be hacks you can enable to speed it up, but the best thing you could do is get a system with a faster CPU.
Title: Re: Emulation thread
Post by: benjipwns on April 26, 2017, 01:11:11 PM
Xenia (360 emulator) had an update this week that got a bunch of games...well, they aren't exactly playable yet, but they're into gameplay now. Lots of less demanding XBLA stuff is suddenly working at 60fps too.

There was a rumor about some apparently strangely specific code submitted to the subversion a few months back. Like somebody working on the back compat for the Xbone dropped something on the guy. :shh
Title: Re: Emulation thread
Post by: benjipwns on April 26, 2017, 01:13:31 PM
As for the framerate thing, try reducing the resolution and then just stretching to full screen vertically, many of those PS2 games were never even running at full frame 480p so if you're running them at even a laptop's standard resolution you're pushing massive amounts of pixels out in comparison.
Title: Re: Emulation thread
Post by: MMaRsu on March 22, 2021, 09:23:29 AM
Starting MGS4 on RCPS3 now.

 :lawd
Title: Re: Emulation thread
Post by: MMaRsu on March 22, 2021, 09:24:58 AM
Quote from: benjipwns on April 26, 2017, 01:11:11 PM
Xenia (360 emulator) had an update this week that got a bunch of games...well, they aren't exactly playable yet, but they're into gameplay now. Lots of less demanding XBLA stuff is suddenly working at 60fps too.

There was a rumor about some apparently strangely specific code submitted to the subversion a few months back. Like somebody working on the back compat for the Xbone dropped something on the guy. :shh

Xenia now

https://youtu.be/Dq68EtdOYik