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Title: Cruncheons 58: It's About Ethics In Trick Or Treating
Post by: Eel O'Brian on October 31, 2014, 04:35:35 PM
http://cruncheons.podbean.com/mf/web/z8q32a/Cruncheons58.mp3

It's All Hallow's Eve, and in our first segment we're talking about such eerie topics as GamerGate, Apple Pay,and Tablets/Phablets. In Segment Two, we turn our withering gaze towards games like The Evil Within, Persona IV Ultimax, Shadow of Mordor, Borderlands: The Pre-Sequel, Endless Legend, Civilization Beyond Earth - and the most horrifying game of them all, Senran Kagura Shinovi Versus.

Happy Halloween, and we'll talk to you again soon!
Title: Re: Cruncheons 58: It's About Ethics In Trick Or Treating
Post by: Eel O'Brian on October 31, 2014, 04:35:53 PM
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=922936
Title: Re: Cruncheons 58: It's About Ethics In Trick Or Treating
Post by: Rufus on October 31, 2014, 04:38:29 PM
:rejoice
Title: Re: Cruncheons 58: It's About Ethics In Trick Or Treating
Post by: Steve Contra on October 31, 2014, 04:39:00 PM
Well I looked up Senran Kagura Shinovi Versus and now I have to burn my computer and register as a sex offender.  Happy Halloween.
Title: Re: Cruncheons 58: It's About Ethics In Trick Or Treating
Post by: Eel O'Brian on October 31, 2014, 04:40:31 PM
Which one of us bought that?

(http://cdn2.scratch.mit.edu/get_image/project/16112046_144x108.png?v=1398475700.3)
Title: Re: Cruncheons 58: It's About Ethics In Trick Or Treating
Post by: Rufus on October 31, 2014, 04:41:14 PM
It's not Drinky? :leon
Title: Re: Cruncheons 58: It's About Ethics In Trick Or Treating
Post by: Human Snorenado on October 31, 2014, 04:41:32 PM
Quote from: Rufus on October 31, 2014, 04:41:14 PM
It's not Drinky? :leon

Ok, not such a mystery
Title: Re: Cruncheons 58: It's About Ethics In Trick Or Treating
Post by: D3RANG3D on October 31, 2014, 04:42:42 PM
 :mouf :rejoice :aah
Title: Re: Cruncheons 58: It's About Ethics In Trick Or Treating
Post by: Brehvolution on October 31, 2014, 05:00:58 PM
I almost left work and would have missed this. :rejoice
Title: Re: Cruncheons 58: It's About Ethics In Trick Or Treating
Post by: pilonv1 on November 01, 2014, 05:24:28 AM
I was wondering which meds Doug had forgotten to take that led to him steamrolling over everyone else's chance to speak, and then he mentioned the two energy drinks.
Title: Re: Cruncheons 58: It's About Ethics In Trick Or Treating
Post by: bork on November 01, 2014, 09:11:49 AM
Completely agree with The Evil Within put-downs.  Can't even say that I went in expecting Resident Evil 4 when I played.  Was just turned off by how bad it was.  Traded it up for Diablo III on PS4, which will be my first time playing the game on any platform.

Animu:


But damn, too much life and hometown for Doug to handle.   :lol  Doesn't sound like you gave it much of a chance because of all the perverted content.  I am surprised you bought it at all because of that, though.  I do disagree with your assessment of the game play.  It is mechanically-sound and you were clearly in full "Church lady prude mode" when you went off on it.  The 3DS sequel has better game play and a much better challenge, and even tones down the pervertedness a bit, but I would definitely recommend that you stay far away from it after listening to this podcast!   :) 

I assume I am the one being labeled as a pervert by Doug in that rant, which is sort of both insulting and awesome at the same time. 
 :neogaf
Title: Re: Cruncheons 58: It's About Ethics In Trick Or Treating
Post by: Human Snorenado on November 01, 2014, 10:03:42 AM
Dude, a GIS of that game returns nothing but jail bait loli crap

:ufup
Title: Re: Cruncheons 58: It's About Ethics In Trick Or Treating
Post by: Kara on November 01, 2014, 10:18:56 AM
Less than 5 minutes in and you get a "cultural hegemony." :aah

(http://i.imgur.com/p3MvB8P.png)
Title: Re: Cruncheons 58: It's About Ethics In Trick Or Treating
Post by: bork on November 01, 2014, 10:32:48 AM
Quote from: Human Snorenado on November 01, 2014, 10:03:42 AM
Dude, a GIS of that game returns nothing but jail bait loli crap

:ufup

Shocking that an image search of a fan-service heavy game would return nothing but perverted image results!

GIS  "Diablo III female" or "Borderlands 2 Maya" and you'll also get some questionable content.  This should be no surprise.

The content is explicitly obvious-- Not even the Xseed dudes are going to try and attempt to cover that up this time around.

This is one of the few games like this that has good game play behind it, with each entry getting better in game play and challenge levels.   If you don't like uguu-ecchi stuff, I'm not sure why you would even consider buying this game, however, because Senran Kagura is blatant about its insane levels of tits n' ass and it's pretty obvious that Van Cruncheon does not go for this kind of thing.
Title: Re: Cruncheons 58: It's About Ethics In Trick Or Treating
Post by: Van Cruncheon on November 01, 2014, 11:47:54 AM
Quote from: bork laser on November 01, 2014, 09:11:49 AM
Completely agree with The Evil Within put-downs.  Can't even say that I went in expecting Resident Evil 4 when I played.  Was just turned off by how bad it was.  Traded it up for Diablo III on PS4, which will be my first time playing the game on any platform.

Animu:

  • Holy shit, Doug bought Persona 4 Ultimax?!   :o
  • HOLY SHIT, DOUG BOUGHT SENRAN KAGURA!?   :o  :rofl

But damn, too much life and hometown for Doug to handle.   :lol  Doesn't sound like you gave it much of a chance because of all the perverted content.  I am surprised you bought it at all because of that, though.  I do disagree with your assessment of the game play.  It is mechanically-sound and you were clearly in full "Church lady prude mode" when you went off on it.  The 3DS sequel has better game play and a much better challenge, and even tones down the pervertedness a bit, but I would definitely recommend that you stay far away from it after listening to this podcast!   :) 

I assume I am the one being labeled as a pervert by Doug in that rant, which is sort of both insulting and awesome at the same time. 
 :neogaf

well, you're a good judge of fighting mechanics, but JESUS CHRIST DUDE :ufup
Title: Re: Cruncheons 58: It's About Ethics In Trick Or Treating
Post by: Van Cruncheon on November 01, 2014, 11:48:40 AM
Quote from: pilonv1 on November 01, 2014, 05:24:28 AM
I was wondering which meds Doug had forgotten to take that led to him steamrolling over everyone else's chance to speak, and then he mentioned the two energy drinks.
:-( i gotta cut back
Title: Re: Cruncheons 58: It's About Ethics In Trick Or Treating
Post by: bork on November 01, 2014, 12:54:29 PM
Quote from: Van Cruncheon on November 01, 2014, 11:47:54 AM
well, you're a good judge of fighting mechanics, but JESUS CHRIST DUDE :ufup

It's not like I didn't warn about that content!

:umad
Title: Re: Cruncheons 58: It's About Ethics In Trick Or Treating
Post by: Van Cruncheon on November 01, 2014, 02:16:33 PM
Quote from: bork laser on November 01, 2014, 12:54:29 PM
Quote from: Van Cruncheon on November 01, 2014, 11:47:54 AM
well, you're a good judge of fighting mechanics, but JESUS CHRIST DUDE :ufup

It's not like I didn't warn about that content!

:umad

it needed to be more extreme of a warning! :tocry
Title: Re: Cruncheons 58: It's About Ethics In Trick Or Treating
Post by: bork on November 01, 2014, 03:22:47 PM
 :cody
Title: Re: Cruncheons 58: It's About Ethics In Trick Or Treating
Post by: pilonv1 on November 01, 2014, 06:13:03 PM
Quote from: The Walrus on November 01, 2014, 03:31:39 PM
Everyone's voices sound different than I expected  :lol

Robert does a good Kermit the Frog impression. Or maybe Ray Romano.

:lol I'm never going to unhear this now.

I liked the tablet discussion, whoever said people weren't upgrading much resonated with me. I'm still using an iPad 2 since call I do is use it as a consumption device. And even with iOS7 it's fine. It's a bit slow at times but video looks good and plays smoothly. The only game I've played on it in over a year is Desert Golf. There's not a lot of benefit for me going to an air 2 outside of the better screen, so it's an easy way to not spend $500+. When I can't stream the NBA or Netflix on this iPad 2, or web browsing and twitter become too slow to use regularly, then I might upgrade. 

Wife has a nexus 7 and is perfectly happy with it. There's no reason to upgrade outside of screens at the moment. Every other new feature is basically useless to us.
Title: Re: Cruncheons 58: It's About Ethics In Trick Or Treating
Post by: bork on November 01, 2014, 06:20:38 PM
Quote from: Van Cruncheon on November 01, 2014, 02:16:33 PM

it needed to be more extreme of a warning! :tocry

How about this?

(http://i.imgur.com/KE9YHe3.png)

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:cody
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Title: Re: Cruncheons 58: It's About Ethics In Trick Or Treating
Post by: D3RANG3D on November 01, 2014, 08:17:13 PM
 :nsfw
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Title: Re: Cruncheons 58: It's About Ethics In Trick Or Treating
Post by: border on November 08, 2014, 05:17:09 PM
I rather enjoyed this episode.

I wasn't expecting such a long rant about GamerGate.  And I mostly expected Doug to be dismissive of both sides in GamerGate, and not so plainly supportive of one.  To me that whole clusterfuck feels like two fringe groups bickering over nonsense, both desperately believing they are fighting for the heart and soul of a culture/hobby.  At the end of the day though the mainstream will pay little heed to either side and business will keep rolling on as usual. 

It's like all these social justice bloggers nervously wringing their hands debating about whether Miley Cyrus' twerking or Iggy Azalea's rapping is offensive cultural appropriation.  By the time you settle the issue they both will have been replaced by some other garbage.

I was glad to hear the broader discussion about women in STEM and computer science specifically.
Title: Re: Cruncheons 58: It's About Ethics In Trick Or Treating
Post by: Van Cruncheon on November 08, 2014, 07:15:14 PM
i'm an unabashed sjw, and since i'm deep in the corporate tech world, i see a lot of the shit ways in which duders treat women. it's pretty annoying.
Title: Re: Cruncheons 58: It's About Ethics In Trick Or Treating
Post by: Human Snorenado on November 08, 2014, 10:42:02 PM
I'm firmly of the belief that there are not two sides to this story; there's the misogynists and the truth.
Title: Re: Cruncheons 58: It's About Ethics In Trick Or Treating
Post by: Eel O'Brian on November 08, 2014, 11:10:21 PM
I started feeling crappy a few minutes before we recorded, so I didn't talk much in this episode. I knew very little about GG because I hadn't paid attention to it, but I know this: No one gave a fuck about games journalism prior to all this, and now it's suddenly reeeally important. That tells me all I need to know about what the core of this is. Also, shitbags posting people's personal info. Nerds be needing a public asswhipping.
Title: Re: Cruncheons 58: It's About Ethics In Trick Or Treating
Post by: recursivelyenumerable on November 09, 2014, 03:15:48 AM
Quote from: Van Cruncheon on November 08, 2014, 07:15:14 PM
i'm an unabashed sjw, and since i'm deep in the corporate tech world, i see a lot of the shit ways in which duders treat women. it's pretty annoying.

this, and it's even worse in smaller shitty companies in my experience. I had a boss who was a straight up serial rapist.
Title: Re: Cruncheons 58: It's About Ethics In Trick Or Treating
Post by: Oblivion on November 09, 2014, 10:17:23 PM
A two and a half hour long podcast?  :whoo