THE BORE

General => The Superdeep Borehole => Topic started by: Kara on March 23, 2015, 02:58:06 AM

Title: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies (Tour de France, brehs)
Post by: Kara on March 23, 2015, 02:58:06 AM
Today I got into my first road wreck (no one worry my mom, dad, only sibling, long-term partner, clients and tell them about it, I'm OK aside from some cuts and a jammed finger) and when I got home the first thing I did wasn't tend to myself, but to sit down and tweak some shit on my bike that had been bothering me the whole ride. It was about then that I figured I had the bug. :-\

So without further ado...

(http://i.imgur.com/VJdfNt8.jpg)

-What are you riding? What are you buying? (http://i.imgur.com/z34VqJ2.gif)

-Give a fuck about professional doping cycling? (http://i.imgur.com/8X33Qrx.gif)

-Anything else I missed. (http://i.imgur.com/fzFLwp7.gif)
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies :MichaelHarrington:
Post by: Kara on March 23, 2015, 03:08:02 AM
Currently riding: an Orbea Carpe. I bought it to just use as a commuter bike, but I actually prefer riding it for fun and riding hard at that, neither of which the bike is terribly designed for.

Planning to get: a slightly out of date lower end Orbea Orca (the B M50). In the long run I'm probably better off getting a disc break Avant, but the Avant comes off as so (http://i.imgur.com/fzFLwp7.gif). That and I think I can grow farther as a rider on something like an Orca over an Avant. (I'm really not buying another bike for a long time after I get this one. Famous last words. :fbm)

Racing, well haven't followed a live event yet, but I am planning to pop in at a stage of this year's Tour of California. (I have to be in Santa Barbara in May anyway. :goty2) Get to see Team United UnitedHealthcare on their sexy Wilier Triestinas if I can block off some time. :noah
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies :MichaelHarrington:
Post by: Van Cruncheon on March 24, 2015, 11:03:52 AM
sorry, breh. i'd love to support you in this, but i need proper motor oil and, of course, leather. :mouf

this effete spandex biz is too aia homo for me. :pd

 i need more of that fierce truckstop papa grizzly, big bore, long stroke, rock hard iron action :phil
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies :MichaelHarrington:
Post by: Kara on March 24, 2015, 02:06:37 PM
sorry, breh. i'd love to support you in this, but i need proper motor oil and, of course, leather. :mouf

this effete spandex biz is too aia homo for me. :pd

 i need more of that fierce truckstop papa grizzly, big bore, long stroke, rock hard iron action :phil

Breh the feel of one of the most efficient forms of transportation and you yourself being the power plant. :lawd

Those are just the Tour de Fabulous wannabes. Mountain bikers are obnoxious as fuck hypermasculine dudebros.

Then there's the eurotrash urban commuters that wear suits and shit thus having to shit up their rides with fenders.

I'm a tweener. Got some bright, tight clothes as well as some dapper urban threads.
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies :MichaelHarrington:
Post by: Kara on March 24, 2015, 02:15:14 PM
I was gonna build a bike but I think I'm too lazy.

It's hard as fuck to find a sporty bicycle with no gears.

They're overpriced but they exist.

http://www.orbea.com/us-en/bicycles/carpe-60/

http://www.pinarello.com/en/bike2014/fixie/catena

http://m.feltbicycles.com/productcatalog/series/1/82482

http://www.scott-sports.com/global/en/products/238409007/SCOTT-OTG-10-Bike/

All track bikes are single gear as well, iirc, but that's probably overkill.
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies :MichaelHarrington:
Post by: Kara on March 24, 2015, 03:49:54 PM
I'm ngl, I'd wear a suit if I rode to work on Colnago's urban bike.

I'll also probs wear one when I ride to a cafe in Trieste on a Wilier Triestina to read Joyce and lust after younger women (http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italo_Svevo).
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies :MichaelHarrington:
Post by: Kara on March 24, 2015, 04:05:26 PM
If it's a shitty bike I'd do it myself. Orbea has lifetime warranties but you can nullify it if :ufup so I'll let someone else work on those for me.
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies :MichaelHarrington:
Post by: Kara on March 24, 2015, 09:32:34 PM
So one of the prestige races is going on atm (the Tour of Catalonia) and there was no live coverage worldwide today because of "technical difficulties." In Catalonia. :heh

Apparently the UCI sucks or something? I only know that they make the East German Olympic Committee look like the U.S. Anti-doping Agency.
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies :MichaelHarrington:
Post by: Madrun Badrun on March 24, 2015, 09:34:42 PM
Put some peanut butter on your finger.
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies :MichaelHarrington:
Post by: Van Cruncheon on March 24, 2015, 11:09:03 PM
using your own body to power something is pure proletarian mudperson.  :PP slumming as a mudperson is a grotesque parody of liberal pathos. :ufup

squandering the earth's precious resources to inefficiently move a frivolous vehicle, on the other hand? that is the privilege of those of means, my friend.  :lenowned

now, the REAL height of the elitist condition is a palanquin, moved entirely by the flesh of lessers. ah, when the day comes when we can compare how many strong indentured bearers power our opulent mobile litters. the only stat that matters when one is at the very apex of his condition is the integer value of souls in his immediate and non-negotiable employ...  :fabulous
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies :MichaelHarrington:
Post by: Madrun Badrun on March 24, 2015, 11:11:34 PM
As fancy as your words are, its hard to sell yourself as elite when we know you own a scooter.  Scooters are for poor teenagers and middle eastern herders than need to bring their goat to the market. 
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies :MichaelHarrington:
Post by: Van Cruncheon on March 24, 2015, 11:13:27 PM
gwyneth paltrow rocks a fuckin' vespa gts300. don't you cluck about elitism to the founder of goop.com, you unpleasant little truffle-rooter. a vespa 946 costs more than you made in the last three years of your life.
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies :MichaelHarrington:
Post by: Kara on March 24, 2015, 11:17:19 PM
Years ago I recognized my kinship with all living beings, and I made up my mind that I was not one bit better than the meanest on earth. I said then, and I say now, that while there is a lower class, I am in it, and while there is a criminal element I am of it, and while there is a soul in prison, I am not free. :bolo
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies :MichaelHarrington:
Post by: Van Cruncheon on March 24, 2015, 11:19:06 PM
no jesuit you, you servile of the oligarchs!
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies :MichaelHarrington:
Post by: Madrun Badrun on March 24, 2015, 11:19:42 PM
1) Defending yourself with gwyneth paltrow's taste is asking for trouble

2) Cost doesn't mean its high class

3) I hope I get the chance, sometime in my life, to make a fat person cry by calling them a 'unpleasant little truffle-rooter'.

4)  I'm a grad student.  A hamburger costs more than I've made in the last three years of my life.
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies :MichaelHarrington:
Post by: Van Cruncheon on March 24, 2015, 11:23:38 PM
(http://aidanmoher.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/terry-goodkind.jpg)
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies :MichaelHarrington:
Post by: Kara on March 24, 2015, 11:25:41 PM
no jesuit you, you servile of the oligarchs!

If I want to fill my empty (metaphoric) soul with life in service to the only god we trust (money), that's between me and the tears I cry alone in the dark. :bolo
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies :MichaelHarrington:
Post by: Madrun Badrun on March 24, 2015, 11:27:37 PM
(http://aidanmoher.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/terry-goodkind.jpg)

I honestly can't tell if you posted a scooter rider or someone you think might look like me. 
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies :MichaelHarrington:
Post by: Van Cruncheon on March 24, 2015, 11:28:28 PM
i posted a man who knows the worth of his talent.
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies :MichaelHarrington:
Post by: Madrun Badrun on March 24, 2015, 11:29:40 PM
He knows his books suck too?

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TBH I've only ever seen the TV show and kind of liked it because of the BDSM overtones.
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Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies :MichaelHarrington:
Post by: Madrun Badrun on March 24, 2015, 11:35:01 PM
My favourite scene was in S02E01 where some hot brunette in bondage leather gear is doing up the corset of a hot blond in bondage leather gear and she's all like 'Is there anything else ...I can do for you' IMPLYING SEX. 
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies :MichaelHarrington:
Post by: Kara on March 25, 2015, 01:42:15 AM
There's a century ride this fall I want to kick my ass into shape to ride and if that happens + I get a suitable ride by then, I'm going to pretend like I'm being sponsored by The Borecast / Cruncheon. :cody

e: My ride will likely have bright pink paint on it. http://i.imgur.com/Z7SnI06.jpg
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies :MichaelHarrington:
Post by: Kara on March 25, 2015, 01:03:33 PM
Carbon bikes are usually race-derived so their frame geometry is about what works there and not not so much aesthetics. Time trial bikes are rolling dweebmobiles (that fly). :lol

The great thing about steel frames is that as long as you don't let them rust they're indestructible. Aluminum frames average something like 3 years before degrading and while carbon is theoretically going to outlive you, it can crack in a crash and become unusable.

Agree about single gear styling.
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies :MichaelHarrington:
Post by: Kara on March 25, 2015, 04:12:40 PM
Rose sells cheaper bikes on average if you're willing to RTFM and do a lot of the building yourself. I think their low end frames are aluminum alloy (i.e. steel-like). Plus you're in Yurop so you don't have to put up with 350€ shipping like we do here.

If the low sprocket on this beauty's cassette was higher than 25 I'd be all over it. It's like the Ural of velos. :noah

http://www.bianchiusa.com/bikes/road/all-road/campione/

If it was celeste instead of black this wouldn't matter, natch. :bolo
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies :MichaelHarrington:
Post by: Kara on March 27, 2015, 03:28:52 PM
Got a bunch of cash and I was like, "Time to get that Orca now. :leon"

Going to need to set myself goals or something or else I'm going to end up with a 5 thousand dollar bike before I know it.
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies :MichaelHarrington:
Post by: king of the internet on March 27, 2015, 03:36:02 PM
I've been riding again now that the snow has melted, still without functional brakes since last fall. It's kind of thrilling actually. You really gotta commit to crossing intersections. Fuck you death, I'm not afraid.  :pacspit
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies :MichaelHarrington:
Post by: Kara on March 27, 2015, 05:29:40 PM
I've been riding again now that the snow has melted, still without functional brakes since last fall. It's kind of thrilling actually. You really gotta commit to crossing intersections. Fuck you death, I'm not afraid.  :pacspit

Night riding is great for this. Running stop signs like they're not there. :lawd

BTW, now that you're here I think we have a real solid "other two wheel Bore" thing. Two wheel Bore has families and partners; the other two wheel Bore has malcontentedness and death wishes. :aah
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies :MichaelHarrington:
Post by: Kara on March 28, 2015, 03:20:51 AM
Went out for a "quick" ride tonight and ended up breaking my single ride distance record. :neogaf

I also broke my average km/h and top speed (without downhill) records too. :shaq

Gonna destroy that century this fall. :miyamoto

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8X4aJDnixN0
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies :MichaelHarrington:
Post by: Kara on March 29, 2015, 09:53:19 PM
DUFUS OMG I FOUND A EURO RETAILER THAT SHIPS THIS TO THE STATES

http://www.wilier.com/en/products/int/road/strada?origin=us

I CAN HAVE A WILIER AND A HIPSTER BIKE AND SOMETHING TO GRIND OUT LONG DISTANCE RIDES

105 / Tiagra hybrid parts too. :obama

E: "Cycling is about suffering."  (Jacques Boyer) Finally I found the right pastime for me. :rejoice
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies :MichaelHarrington:
Post by: Rufus on March 30, 2015, 04:29:12 PM
So much for cameraderie, eh?
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies :MichaelHarrington:
Post by: Rufus on March 31, 2015, 08:42:51 AM
^_^
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies :MichaelHarrington:
Post by: Am_I_Anonymous on March 31, 2015, 08:44:26 AM
Got some preview pics of vularai's new peddle powered whip

(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41aUbpNXVnL._SX300_.jpg)

:rejoice

 :fabulous
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies :MichaelHarrington:
Post by: bork on March 31, 2015, 10:01:54 AM
Would imagine it to be more like this.

(http://geekologie.com/2014/03/06/peewee-herman-bike-for-sale.gif)
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies :MichaelHarrington:
Post by: Kara on March 31, 2015, 10:20:31 AM
Got some preview pics of vularai's new peddle powered whip

(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41aUbpNXVnL._SX300_.jpg)

:rejoice

 :fabulous

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pink_jersey

:fabulous
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies :MichaelHarrington:
Post by: Kara on April 02, 2015, 04:14:30 AM
Ran a stop sign on my ride tonight (which isn't unusual), but unlike what usually happens (nothing), la policía came barreling through the intersection at virtually the same time thanks to the disparity in our respective rates of travel and I almost got pulped by The Man, who then drove erratically after getting caught with their hand in the cookie jar.

Vélo. :rejoice
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies :MichaelHarrington:
Post by: Kara on April 05, 2015, 06:08:50 PM
This guy is my hero. http://sheldonbrown.com/eagle.html

Why am I trying to get into men's cycling again? www.cyclingweekly.co.uk/news/latest-news/dani-king-bounces-back-164563

Audrey Cordon-Ragot. :noah http://wigglehonda.com/audrey-cordon-ragot-fra/

Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies :MichaelHarrington:
Post by: Kara on April 07, 2015, 01:21:21 PM
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1934030988/ ?

From what I gather there's a certain amount of proprietary manufacturing in big brand stuff so that probably makes it difficult to produce a book like that. Also (at least here), manufacturers try not to piss off local bike shops / dealers so there's a lack of incentive to teach people how to cut those businesses out of the equation.

Unrelated: Sucks that this won't ship to the U.S. http://www.merlincycles.com/felt-f95-road-bike-2014-72321.html

e: Real talk: the commune was out of town for the holiday and I did some wrenching around on my bike in the living room and it rode so well afterwards. :noah
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies :MichaelHarrington:
Post by: Kara on April 07, 2015, 01:40:34 PM
You're not supposed to use platform pedals if you're a "serious" cyclist but there isn't one type of "serious" pedal (there isn't even one type of clipless pedal) so they just don't give you any pedal. Cycling, truly the nickel and diming hobby. :swiss

I know Specialized ships their bikes with shitty platform pedals even though the store pics all show them not having pedals. I can't imagine that's a unique thing.
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies :MichaelHarrington:
Post by: Kara on April 07, 2015, 08:39:41 PM
After waaaay too much research I think I'm going to get a BH Zaphire.

Year or two old ones are very reasonable, they come with Tiagra drivetrains, and have carbon forks.

Plus they're Basque. :euskadi:

It kind of sucks that the entry level road bike is more and more an entry gran fondo bike. If I wanted to be comfortable I'd drive a car. :bolo

Now to find some cleats...
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies :MichaelHarrington:
Post by: Kara on April 07, 2015, 09:37:27 PM
Aaaaand bought.

http://www.pricepoint.com/Brand/BH/BH-Zaphire-Tiagra-Road-Bike-Blue.axd

Hundred dollars off until tomorrow, couldn't say no.

Now to figure out where to put it. :lol

They had Shimano shoes on clearance for 40 too. :leon For once it pays to have XBOX HUEG feet. :rejoice

Too bad they're only Shimano pedal compatible. :shaq2
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies :MichaelHarrington:
Post by: king of the internet on April 08, 2015, 04:08:22 PM
A quality bike is definitely one of the first investments I'll make if / when I ever get my shit together. Well, I want a quality bike but also a junker on the side. There's a certain something about having a junker you can use and abuse without a care. Beat it up, toss it on the ground, run that shit raw. :noah
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies :MichaelHarrington:
Post by: Kara on April 08, 2015, 05:28:55 PM
Aside from maybe the drop handlebars that seems like exactly what you were looking for, D.  :D

Bike Radar liked it too. http://www.bikeradar.com/us/road/gear/category/bikes/road/product/review-kona-paddy-wagon-14-48839/

Allez, allez!

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Riding the Tour de France on a single gear bike (like it says in that review). :mjlol:
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Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies :MichaelHarrington:
Post by: Kara on April 08, 2015, 05:39:42 PM
A quality bike is definitely one of the first investments I'll make if / when I ever get my shit together. Well, I want a quality bike but also a junker on the side. There's a certain something about having a junker you can use and abuse without a care. Beat it up, toss it on the ground, run that shit raw. :noah

Because of the stupid pun I used for the thread title I want to buy a Motobécane from Bikes Direct and just fucking abuse the shit out of it. Maybe use their touring bike in my first few audax rides. :mjlol:
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies :MichaelHarrington:
Post by: Kara on April 09, 2015, 03:55:51 PM
My BH arrived. :o

Holy FUCK 23mm tires are terrifying.  :lol And they're more or less slicks too. :lol :lol

I think I'm going to remove the platform pedals from my single gear bike and put them on my new one until I learn how to handle losing 10mm or so of tire width and the traction of pitted tires.

As an added benefit it'll let me learn how to use clipless pedals on a much more forgiving frame with one gear and one I'm used to riding already. 8)
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies :MichaelHarrington:
Post by: Kara on April 09, 2015, 04:04:29 PM
I think 18-20mm is the width for tarmac racing at the professional level.  :'(

That Kona you were looking at had tires ~30mm. :obama

Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies :MichaelHarrington:
Post by: Kara on April 09, 2015, 05:52:13 PM
Wind resistance is so #struggle. :stahp

The helmet I wear on the street (it weighs more and has more coverage than my other helmet) has a dweeby sun visor and I removed it before a night ride once. Oh boy. Above 12 kilometers per hour it was like pedaling through sludge. (Without the visor the helmet isn't aerodynamic at all.)

Oddly birettas don't feel the same way. Guess smooth surface + visor cuts through wind alright.
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies :MichaelHarrington:
Post by: Kara on April 10, 2015, 04:00:20 AM
Yeah, after practicing with them tonight I'm going to admit that clipless pedals are utterly terrifying.

I say this as someone who skied a zillion years ago too. :lol

This is going to be a nonstop adrenaline rush. :rejoice

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I kinda want to start skiing again now. :hitler
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Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies :MichaelHarrington:
Post by: Kara on April 10, 2015, 03:55:19 PM
They seem like a good fit with single gear, especially when your RPM gets really high.

Unrelated: metal as heck http://www.bikeradar.com/us/mtb/gear/article/absa-cape-epic-a-bike-burial-ground-44005/
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies :MichaelHarrington:
Post by: Kara on April 11, 2015, 09:27:10 PM
Hit 45 kilometers per hour on my ride today. :win

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It was fucking terrifying. :brazilcry
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Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies :MichaelHarrington:
Post by: Kara on April 11, 2015, 10:23:55 PM
It was my first ride with these BTW. I'm never going back to padded gloves again unless they're a fashion statement.

http://www.giro.com/us_en/zero-ii.html

Plus they come in my colors. (Black and white.) :supergay
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies :MichaelHarrington:
Post by: Kara on April 14, 2015, 03:09:47 AM
Watching Paris-Roubaix in stunning HD® on my DVR and dis shit metal as fuck. :rock

Speaking of racing, I realized I can ride the road course from the 1984 Olympics without much inconvenience because it was run around here instead of LA. Too bad it has a descent that's utterly terrifying without factoring in spaced out drivers in SUVs and teensy tiny bike lanes. :brazilcry (Ironically Mission Viejo has always had narrow bike lanes despite renaming a street in honor of the Olympic bike race it hosted.)
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies :MichaelHarrington:
Post by: Kara on April 14, 2015, 03:26:55 PM
RIP rim brakes.

http://www.uci.ch/pressreleases/the-uci-and-wfsgi-study-the-introduction-disc-brakes-professional-road-cycling/

A future with cheap disc brake bikes. :rejoice
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies :MichaelHarrington:
Post by: Kara on April 15, 2015, 01:47:36 PM
Performance single chain? :leon

http://www.bikeradar.com/us/road/gear/article/sram-brings-1x-to-the-road-with-new-force-1-and-rival-1-groupsets-43808/

BTW the end of Paris-Roubaix is awesome. 7 rider finish in a velodrome. :rock
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies :MichaelHarrington:
Post by: Kara on April 18, 2015, 12:23:45 AM
Got in my first duel today. :cody

TFW you're pedaling until your legs fall off on a single speed and your rival just shifts into a higher gear and blows you away. :goty2

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Sadly I don't think my bete noire was using the SRAM Rival groupset. :goty
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On a related note, if/when I go to my first race I'm definitely going to get punched the fuck out. I don't understand how velo makes me even more of a douchebag than ma voiture, but it does. :holeup
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies :MichaelHarrington:
Post by: Kara on April 19, 2015, 12:28:00 AM
Sooooooooo my next project is going to be a bad life decision. :-\

I'm going to convert my single speed. Taking off the flat bars and adding a drop bar, plus swapping out the stock drivetrain for a SRAM Rival groupset (without the brakes) provided that's not impossible, which I don't think it will be since the top end model in this line by Orbea has a 10 speed, single chain Shimano groupset and every model uses the exact same frame. (Orbea is big on modular design, another model they produce called the Avant can be equipped with pretty much anything--mechanical or electronic transmission, rim or disk brakes, et cetera.)

Single speed is really nice and the no muss, no fuss is great but... it's just not a good fit for my riding needs at the moment. The frame I'm using is heavy as fuck (it weighs about the same as 2 pro race bikes combined) and that makes any varied terrain riding more of bother than it should be. Plus, I GottaGoFast (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4VsdfdZfyc) and this single speed is freewheel, not fixie, so I top out a lot sooner than I would like to--not that 40 something km/h isn't fast. :lol

I can't even use it for what I originally bought it for (riding to the cafe), honestly. There are no bike lanes on the route from the commune to the cafe, the road traffic between here and there is moderately fast (55-60 km/h), and the drivers here don't know how to handle bicycles on the road (i.e. riding slow is a death wish). Not only will the project let me meet my riding needs, but I'll be able to wear my swank riding jacket to the cafe for a legitimate reason after it too. :-*

Luckily for me the geometry of the frame is actually rather road race bike, so this isn't a complete exercise in lunacy. It'll also give me something to ride in an audax someday. :D
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies :MichaelHarrington:
Post by: Kara on April 21, 2015, 07:30:58 PM
Yeeeeeeah... building a road bike was a little too much for me to handle. :lol Took it into the shop to have them finish it up (and undo what I fucked up :-[ ).

On the plus side, I won't die on my first ride. (Or is that a downside? >:( )

Road bikes have fucking weird weight distribution. The imbalance the cassette and rear derailleur cause really throw you off; tbh I understand why weight is such a big fucking deal in groupsets in a way I couldn't before.

Also a carbon fork paired with an aluminum frame is fucking black magic. :o
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies :MichaelHarrington:
Post by: Kara on April 24, 2015, 05:42:45 AM
The holy grail y'all. :noah

(http://i.imgur.com/8yrQV8e.jpg)

Belgian frame (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ridley_Bikes).

Italian groupset. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Campagnolo)

French clipless pedals (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Look_%28company%29).

German tires (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Continental_AG).



Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies :MichaelHarrington:
Post by: Kara on April 29, 2015, 02:46:25 AM
Strava says I hit 65 kilometers an hour on my ride tonight. :cody

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I'm really going to become roadkill. :brazilcry
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Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies :MichaelHarrington:
Post by: Kara on June 21, 2015, 12:24:46 PM
Riding on skinny af tires isn't actually that scary. Don't get me wrong, they're intimidating the first few rides but then you adapt. What really sucks about a road bike are the drop handlebars. I'm still uncomfortable when I ride my BH because of those. TBH, I now understand why fondo frames are all the rage these days.

Also, having more than one gear is really bad for a speed junkie like me. I absolutely cannot pace myself. :'(
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies :MichaelHarrington:
Post by: Purrp Skirrp on July 17, 2015, 08:22:03 AM
Going to incorporate bike riding into my weight loss regimen.

Miss the days I could ride around on a Mongoose pegging bros left and right.

Feeling too flabby for a serious man's bike, but I have one and the need for speed lies dormant in my special fellow genes (pops use to ride 30+ miles just to see my mom).

I have a nice old man's bike (inherited from passed elder gpa), where if you pedal fast enough you can power the headlight! (http://i.imgur.com/mWgHft0.png)

Contrast that with my best bud who has multiple long boards and can dance on em doin' tricks and skip hops with that Go-Pro fuck state mentality (http://i.imgur.com/SikmoaM.png)
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies :MichaelHarrington:
Post by: Kara on July 18, 2015, 10:23:16 PM
Posters other than me itt. :rejoice This is Velo-Bore's Shenmue 3 moment. :tocry

 :lol Reading your initial experiences on a "sporty" bike was deja vu Dufus. When I got my single gear I was all "I don't need a helmet. :jawalrus" and after my first ride I was like "GET ME A HELMET. (http://www.thecoli.com/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/sadbron.png)" Have you got down into the drops yet? You go fast as hell when you're down there. :win

In America we call those tools Allen wrenches. Internationally they're usually called hex keys. If you stick with this you will end up with several of them... I have two combination ones that cover any size imaginable because I was sick of trying to work on my bikes and not having an Allen wrench big or small enough to work a screw. :lol

Your cassette is actually a little more aggressive than the one on my single gear (16t vs. 18t) so I'm not surprised how powerful and fast it seems right now. 11t is what you'll find at one end of a pro transmission. The only time you'll really feel humbled is on a long sprint when you spin out or when you're going up a hill and have to crank hard. Other than that there's not a ton of difference between a single and a multiple speed bike.

It sounds like you could use some spacers on your stem since you're leaning too far forward. Unless you're in the drops you shouldn't be that hunched over. When I want to get really upright on my multigear bike with drop handlebars I hold the parts of it closest to the stem like it's a flat handlebar. Not sure if that will work for you but try it out!

@Swish - Riding is a great way to get fit because it's fun (unlike a lot of other cardio). Not sure how flabby n sick you are atm, but a lot of bikes have weight limits so watch out for that. (Usually around 240 pounds.) A steel frame bike is pretty invincible and since they weigh a lot it'll make you work harder to ride, you might look at that.

:tocry So happy to have company itt again.
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies :MichaelHarrington:
Post by: Kara on July 18, 2015, 10:32:43 PM
Oh, RE ride quality: my single speed is on 28cm tires like your Kona and my 10 speed is only on 23cm tires (:dead) and the 10 speed is MILES more comfortable over rough surfaces than the single speed so I don't think it has as much to do with tire size as the frame itself. My 10 speed has a carbon fiber fork while my single speed doesn't, for example.
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies :MichaelHarrington:
Post by: Kara on July 19, 2015, 01:59:01 PM
Your seat's the correct height if you have to stand on your tip toes when the bike is stopped. It seems counterintuitive but you pedal the most efficiently when your legs can almost fully extend.

Planks (especially side planks) are better than pushups for building your flexibility. And just riding a lot will get your body used to the geometry, I hardly do yogaish stuff anymore because I ride so much.

As for running out of energy, sorry for the remedial question but is your cassette fixie or freewheel atm? (Yours can flip and be either.) If it's fixie that's why, fixies are the most demanding bicycle setup available. If it's freewheel, try to pace your pedaling and fuel appropriately before riding. (Take in sugars 15-20 mins before riding and bring a sugared drink on your ride.) You're the engine in the most efficient form of human transportation on the planet but like an engine you can't run at high RPM indefinitely.
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies :MichaelHarrington:
Post by: Kara on July 19, 2015, 06:44:38 PM
Stock rims are almost always :trash, a way for companies to save some extra bucks. See also: cranksets.
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies :MichaelHarrington:
Post by: Purrp Skirrp on July 20, 2015, 09:20:16 PM
250 seems to be the cut off for too fat for life. Chairs and bikes with these 250 lb weight limits. I'm still shy of 250, but it's a good reminder to not get so fat :wag

For the longest time, normal was 6 foot 180 lbs fit. Gotta get back to that :-\

There's these videogamey bike machines at the gym I go to and they're actually pretty decent for a 30 minute ride. Should I practice more with the fake bikes before going for the real thing?

The machines try to replicate hills and different terrain so I don't know if it's any less strenuous than the real thing.
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies :MichaelHarrington:
Post by: Kara on July 21, 2015, 02:31:37 AM
It sounds like you're leaning too far forward, D. The only time it's really difficult for me to see is if I've pulled the brim of my biretta too far down.

How did you decide on the frame size you got? The official recommendations err too much on the side of being too large. (I should buy bikes with 60 cm top tubes officially but I feel much more comfortable on a 58 cm.) I would definitely play around with raising your stem with spacers or even getting a shorter one. A trip to the local bike shop for a fitting might do the trick too but those can cost money.

@Swish - I don't read good things about stationary bikes but the people who do the writing in this scene are comically out of touch with reality. If it works for you that's what matters imo. The only meaningful differences to me are:

-you can stand and pedal on an outdoor bike (better workout)
-you get to go fast on an outdoor bike
-you can get hurt on an outdoor bike

I don't think they can really prepare you to ride a modern road bike beyond basic stroke (:teehee) techniques (you really fucking fly on the stuff they sell now) and you definitely won't learn how to shift right (bike transmissions are... interesting).
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies :MichaelHarrington:
Post by: Kara on July 21, 2015, 02:37:02 AM
As for me, my goal this weekend is to try out clipless pedals for the first time. :anhuld

I'm actually a bit scared because my riding routes are all tarmac that's chewed the heck up so if I fall (which is likely) I'm going to get cut the fuck up. :brazilcry

I also have to make sudden stops a lot which just presents more opportunities to fall over. :stahp

#pray4kara
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies :MichaelHarrington:
Post by: Kara on July 21, 2015, 01:34:54 PM
A shorter stem lets you turn your front wheel with less effort. Since your frame is larger and your tires are 28s it shouldn't be too hazardous for you if you shorten it.

As a plus, the bike will feel a lot more nimble at low speeds.
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies :MichaelHarrington:
Post by: Purrp Skirrp on July 21, 2015, 02:35:34 PM
Is shifting different on these nicer bikes? Always do it while pedaling.

Left side are gears 1, 2, 3, and right side 1-7 on my bike. Don't know what you call them, but I know how they work on my bike :P
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies :MichaelHarrington:
Post by: Kara on July 21, 2015, 03:27:15 PM
Is shifting different on these nicer bikes? Always do it while pedaling.

Left side are gears 1, 2, 3, and right side 1-7 on my bike. Don't know what you call them, but I know how they work on my bike :P

You can shift while you aren't pedaling but the transmission won't actually change until you next pedal.

The shifter on the left usually controls the chainring like your bike does (it sounds like you have a triple, those are rare now, it's usually just 2) and the the one on the right usually controls the cassette at the rear (again like yours) but there are a lot more than 7 speeds now, 11 is the norm and entry level is usually 9.

The big change would be getting used to how to shift up and down, each of the big 3 groupset companies has its own way of doing it and one of them (SRAM) will be changing theirs when they release their wireless system this year. I have a Shimano set and I hate how one of the shifting actions is built into the brake lever. It's one of the reasons my next bike will have Campagnolo instead.
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies :MichaelHarrington:
Post by: Purrp Skirrp on July 21, 2015, 04:29:16 PM
Mine has levers like these:

(http://i.imgur.com/TyOWQVul.jpg)

Is that style outdated?
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies :MichaelHarrington:
Post by: Kara on July 21, 2015, 05:01:59 PM
Vintage!

Yeah, those went out of style around 2009ish. This is what you use now.

(http://i.imgur.com/dthOEe7.jpg)

(Shimano's pictured, though the other 2 are similar enough.)

E: I was kind of blown away when I read that Lance Armstrong used the kind you posted when he no longer had to.
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies :MichaelHarrington:
Post by: Kara on July 24, 2015, 12:10:51 AM
I think I fell back in love with my single gear, Dufus. :heh

It's just so damn liberating to not have to worry about anything when you're riding. :whew

And cranking the pedals as hard as you can when going uphill. :lawd

I definitely need to switch out the flat handlebar though. A 60 cm top tube should not feel as short as mine does.

I also need to swap out the brakes, not only are these ones :trash, but given how fast I ride they're straight up dangerous.

Vélos. :rejoice
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies :MichaelHarrington:
Post by: Kara on July 25, 2015, 08:42:29 PM
I swapped out the brake pads on my single speed. Thing rides better than new now. :lawd

I thought V-brakes were always :trash, but with these new pads I barely have to pull the brake levers to stop like on my 10 speed. :lawd

God I love dicking around with my vélos, I can see why Drinky is an addict with his motos. :itagaki
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies :MichaelHarrington:
Post by: Kara on July 26, 2015, 08:49:59 PM
Clipless pedals are weird. Like you don't really use your feet to pedal at all, it's all in your legs. The really nice thing about this is that it's a lot harder to spin out because your feet can't fly off the pedals, which means a lot less shifting gears. The shitty thing about this is that you can't really "take a break" while pedaling like you can with platform pedals.

The shoes I have are a little to big for me so I'm going to keep my eyes peeled for a pair that fits better that's also compatible with Look pedals. (My current shoes are only compatible with Shimano pedals, which makes sense since they're Shimano shoes.) I found out Look sells pedals built in France and I gotta have that.
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies :MichaelHarrington:
Post by: Kara on July 26, 2015, 09:47:13 PM
Hmmmm, supposedly my shoes will work with Look pedals. Do I want to wager 50 bucks on that? Do I want to have wasted buying my Shimano pedals?
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies :MichaelHarrington:
Post by: Kara on August 01, 2015, 02:28:58 PM
People riding to get that bangin' bikini bod shouldn't use single gear bikes on hilly terrain. I didn't even have to try to blow by them this morning. #puncheur :lol

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<Veritas> i think i'm going to buy an el camino
<Veritas> http://www.commencalusa.com/el-camino-essential-sram-650b-grey-2015-c2x14719948
<Veritas> that one lol, not the embarrassing automobile
<Aequitas> when u ride that u still gotta wear a flannel over a wifebeater with only the top button fastened with a sick bandeezy
<Veritas> u got it ese
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies :MichaelHarrington:
Post by: thisismyusername on August 01, 2015, 02:41:07 PM
Are hybrids still a thing? I was meaning to pick one up, since on paper they sounded good: Mountain Bike for dirt roads, urban for paved roads. But I'm not sure if they're practical for mixed riding or reliable.
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies :MichaelHarrington:
Post by: Kara on August 01, 2015, 03:11:58 PM
Yeah, definitely!

http://www.cannondale.com/nam_en/2015/bikes/fitness-urban/fitness/quick-cx/quick-cx-5
http://www.trekbikes.com/us/en/bikes/city/dual_sport/ds_series/8_2_ds/
http://www.gtbicycles.com/usa_en/2015/bikes/road/2015-grade-alloy-claris
http://m.specialized.com/us/en/bikes/multi-use/crosstrail/crosstrail
http://www.giant-bicycles.com/en-us/bikes/model/roam.3/22193/84016/

(I tried to pick entry level models, but these all scale up. Basically you pay more for lighter, better parts as you go up in cost and frames stay the same until you jump from metal to carbon fiber.)

In terms of reliability, as long as you don't get ambitious with your offroad riding (dirt and gravel should be nbd) and you keep your bike maintained the biggest problem you'd face are punctures and that's easily fixed with sturdy tires. Almost all of those bikes use mountain bike gears which should be pretty sturdy. (The GT doesn't but I am a little familiar with it and people say it's very rugged.)

Embrace two wheels mon ami. :preach
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies :MichaelHarrington:
Post by: Kara on August 02, 2015, 02:16:06 PM
Another weekend ride, another pinch flat and resulting walk of shame home. :snoop :goty2

This time it was on my single speed too, which has pretty rugged tires (that I'd inflated yesterday!) but I was mad as fuck after being slowed down by a family faffing about on foot across two lanes of a bike path :sheik and cranked through a turn too sharp. That's all she wrote. :brazilcry

Of course it's my rear tire too. :iface

ON THE PLUS SIDE, I apparently earned the fourth fastest time ever on a secteur on this ignominious excursion according to Strava. :drake :money :preach

I need to just bite the bullet and go to the really really big bike path that isn't riding distance from the Commune on the weekends. It's not like my 58 frame isn't easy to squeeze in the trunk of a car. :yeshrug
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies :MichaelHarrington:
Post by: Kara on August 18, 2015, 01:31:57 AM
Think I've got my shopping list set for Eurotrashing out my BH brehs. :whew

It's gonna be so Eurotrash. :noah And a lot of the stuff I found is available in the colors of my bike (black, blue, and white) so this shit's going to look so aesthetically pleasing after I'm done too. :lawd

I did end up putting some Michelin tires instead of Hutchinsons on my shopping list. I'm not getting tubeless rims and tbh I don't really see the benefit in getting Hutchinsons if you're not getting tubeless tires. Plus Michelin sells tires with blue sidewalls. :preach

Wish I'd known more about bottom brackets when I was getting deep into this. I have kind of a smaller one which makes me feel like I'm wasting pedal strength and even though I plan on keeping my BH for awhile it really makes it hard to justify buying a Stages power meter because my next bike will hopefully not have this bottom bracket.
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies :MichaelHarrington:
Post by: Kara on August 19, 2015, 01:48:08 AM
I think recumbents are a great option for people who just want to get around or have certain disabilities. (One of the regular riders on my local bike path is a person with disabilities who rides one.) They can get pretty fast too even though they've been outlawed in racing for like a 100 years or something. :shaq Their handling is supposedly pretty shitty though.

You could probably fit some studded 25 tires on your Kona. (I don't know if those exist.) Dropping to 25s would give you more fender clearance too. From what I gather fitting fenders on a traditional road frame is usually a tight package, even on frames designed to take them.

As for aero bars, they're kind of inconvenient to climb with and that strikes me as their major limiting factor. In addition to that, because they're kind of specialized they're expensive to purchase and most bikes that aren't time trial bikes don't come with them at time of purchase and from what I gather the overwhelming majority of bike riders don't make significant modifications to their bikes after purchase so if it's not there then it's not ever going to be there.
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies :MichaelHarrington:
Post by: Kara on August 19, 2015, 10:38:53 PM
http://ax-lightness.de/en/cycling/bike-components/stems/rigid/

:lawd 600 euros for nothing but a stem.
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies :MichaelHarrington:
Post by: Kara on August 21, 2015, 07:08:14 PM
Yeah... I hit some real climbs today and they kicked my ass. :dead

I mean I know I need to get leaner (which I'm working on!) but I wonder how much better I'd do with a triple instead of a compact crank. :gaben My rear cassette is a 12-30 and I was in the easiest gear possible like 40% up the climb. :brazilcry

Also I really should have bought some nice brake pads instead of cheapie stopgap ones. It's scary as fuck to be going 60 km downhill and having pretty much nothing happen when you brake. :busta
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies :MichaelHarrington:
Post by: Kara on August 26, 2015, 01:01:16 AM
You know, the bottom bracket is kind of an important part of a bicycle but they have to be one of the most confusing things in the world.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bottom_bracket#Sizes

Look at how many "standards" there are. :dead

The worst thing is that the press fit "standards" are recent concoctions which means they're destined for a short lifespan. (BB30 seems to be the one everyone thinks has the least legs from what I've read.) Meanwhile BSA has been around FOREVER and probably will go on a lot longer.
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies :MichaelHarrington:
Post by: Kara on August 30, 2015, 10:31:30 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yOgHsrsrf34

:dead :dead :dead :dead :dead

Dufus I'm ttly watching this, you game? :expert
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies :MichaelHarrington:
Post by: Kara on September 01, 2015, 11:03:51 PM
Think I trashed either the tire or the rim on my rear wheel this morning because I was too impatient to wait for a jogger. That'll be fun to have fixed tomorrow since I don't really want mismatched tires or wheels... hoping that I'll just have to buy a new set of tires.

On the plus side the jogger was SEETHING at me for passing them and then making them slow down. Now you know how it feels, shortstride.  8)
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies :MichaelHarrington:
Post by: Kara on September 19, 2015, 04:02:33 PM
Think I'm getting a thing for classic steel bikes. :-\

So many options out there though. :aah

From something "modern" and relatively inexpensive like this:

http://surlybikes.com/bikes/pacer

To something absolutely ridiculous like this:

http://www.bianchiusa.com/bikes/road/all-road/eroica/

I need to make a significant upgrade to my existing bikes to get this wanderlust out of my system. My Orbea is chromoly. :larry
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies :MichaelHarrington:
Post by: Kara on September 19, 2015, 05:33:26 PM
It's because it's certified to be used in a historic bike race they have every year that forbids newer style bikes. That means they had to do stuff like commission replica Campagnolo parts.

Still a ridic price, mind, but there's a reason for it.

Plus hand built in Italy and the Campagnolo stuff is either hand built in Italy or Romania.
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies :MichaelHarrington:
Post by: Kara on September 23, 2015, 01:30:02 AM
http://www.hutchinsontires.com/en/entreprise?mod=france

Glad I hadn't bought new tires yet. The Francofication of my vélo can be even more complete. :lawd
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies :MichaelHarrington:
Post by: Kara on September 30, 2015, 01:03:04 AM
Dufus, I had my first dérailleur problem. My rear mech got out of whack and shifting up was agonizing for a couple of rides.

Fixing it was pretty simple, I just needed to tighten the cable that goes in to the part which I did by fussing with a dial on the dérailleur but the entire time I was like DUFUS WAS RIGHT.

Loving my new Hutchinson tires btw. Vive la République. :lawd
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies :MichaelHarrington:
Post by: Kara on September 30, 2015, 11:48:49 AM
It's pathetic if you inflate with compressed CO2. The tire losses pressure in 24 hours. :goty

Buying a quality inner tube can slow down the pressure loss. Weeks between ination is going to be tough to top I think, though. I have to top mine off every other ride because I run them at their maximum pressure. :shaq2

Getting into this hobby has really made me appreciate tire design for automobiles.

Look at this fucking goober, btw: http://www.bicycling.com/repair/repair/what-happened-when-we-sent-maintenance-noob-repair-school

Now I know why bike mechanics are a bit rude. :sabu
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies :MichaelHarrington:
Post by: Kara on November 21, 2015, 04:56:58 PM
Slammed my stem (almost). Pray for me bike brehs, going out in 30 or so. 🙏

My vélo looks kinda like this now. :lol

https://youtu.be/C8IUZQuBAXI
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies :MichaelHarrington:
Post by: Kara on November 21, 2015, 11:02:13 PM
Slamming really improved my bike fit. I no longer feel like I'm riding a frame that's too small for me. :rejoice

Pros: more aerodynamic riding position, especially when I'm on the hoods. I really felt the cumulative effect of this towards the end of the ride. Not as uncomfortable as I was expecting, really just stress on parts of my body I wasn't used to. I only did a sprint ride, so I'm cautious about the setup's efficacy until I crank out a real long ride.

Cons: having to adjust to different handling (feels twitchier now) and not having as much wind resistance to keep me from blowing my load early. Also my respiration felt totally different (I wasn't getting nearly as much oxygen as I'm used to) but I'm not sure if that's because of my body position or the fact that I ate like shit earlier in the day so I'm going to watch that. As much as I like a better fit I like breathing efficiently better.
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies :MichaelHarrington:
Post by: Kara on May 28, 2018, 05:39:22 PM
How short was your first stem?

How short was your second stem?

What's the size of your frame? (The seat tube length.)

How tall are you?
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies :MichaelHarrington:
Post by: team filler on May 28, 2018, 05:49:33 PM
I once owned a huffy, hopped a lot of curbs
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies :MichaelHarrington:
Post by: Kara on May 29, 2018, 12:17:07 PM
Yeah, that frame is too big for you. You could drop down to a 70mm stem but that would noticeably change the way it handles.

A steel frame with a carbon fork will put you in a bike you had before. It's almost exclusive to racing bikes for people who want to ride steel but also want to still be a weight weenie. It sounds like you value comfort so I would recommend an all steel frame unless you were going to lift it a lot.

A lot of the things you're looking for are reasonable and practical which, since this is the bicycle industry, means you don't have a lot of off the shelf options. How luxurious can you get? I think something like this (https://velo-orange.com/collections/campeur/products/vo-campeur-frame) from a company that only sells frames would be what you're looking for. (Reading your post I actually kept thinking, "This has got to be a Velo Orange commercial, right?" They have a lot of the accessories you're looking for too.)

If you can't get that expensive I would suggest looking at vintage frames. Cyclo-touring used to be popular and there are tons of "comfortable, but quick" frames that were built for that purpose. Since you want to convert to single speed a 5 speed frame is the easiest type to work with because modern day track wheel hubs use the same frame spacing at the rear (120mm). There are lots of good frames from the late 70s, early to mid 80s that shouldn't be discounted though.

If you go vintage I would advise against anything French. I own a vintage French bike and I love it but all of the parts are standards that were specific to France so owning one is more of a hobby with a benefit than a mode of transportation.

Whichever option you elect I think you should prioritize a bike with a threaded fork. Threaded stems let you adjust the height of the handlebars and the distance away from you. It's not a common design anymore because it costs more to produce but they still exist and all bikes before 199X had threaded forks on the road.

There's nothing wrong with rim brakes. They're just fine. Unfortunately pushing disc brakes has been an easy way for the bigger companies to turn sales so disc only frames are not uncommon now. Tektro makes a cable pull disc brake (the Spyre) that preserves simplicity while being a disc brake.

I think you might find this podcast (https://cyclingtips.com/2016/08/cyclingtips-podcast-episode-9-rethinking-road-bike-tire-sizes-and-pressures/) informative RE: tire size and pressure.
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies :MichaelHarrington:
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on May 29, 2018, 12:53:11 PM
Got 600 km already on the bike I bought a few months back, electric bike really is great in such a hilly town. Use it every day to pickup or drop off my daugther at kindergarten
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies :MichaelHarrington:
Post by: VomKriege on July 01, 2018, 08:39:27 AM
ASO has forbidden Froome to enter in the imminent Tour de France. Team Sky has appealed the decision but apparently ASO is within its prerogatives.

Froome presented an abnormal level of an illicit substance in a test made several months ago and the official decision is still pending.
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies :MichaelHarrington:
Post by: Kara on July 01, 2018, 09:40:44 PM
I fully expect the case to be magically resolved ASAP because we all know ASO actually runs the sport but lol, couldn't have happened to a nicer team and guy.
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies :MichaelHarrington:
Post by: VomKriege on July 02, 2018, 06:54:55 AM
Well what do you know, the UCI just announced the case was closed  :lol
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies :MichaelHarrington:
Post by: VomKriege on July 03, 2018, 03:16:45 AM
...and thus Froome is welcomed back on the Tour.
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies :MichaelHarrington:
Post by: Kara on July 03, 2018, 11:26:31 AM
I already knew this but what a farce of a sport. Were they just sitting on it?

Hopefully Bedhead Bardet saves us from another :zzz Tour with an amazing stage run ŕ la the 2015 Critérium du Dauphiné or 2016 Tour.
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies :MichaelHarrington:
Post by: VomKriege on July 03, 2018, 12:02:41 PM
I already knew this but what a farce of a sport. Were they just sitting on it?

Hopefully Bedhead Bardet saves us from another :zzz Tour with an amazing stage run ŕ la the 2015 Critérium du Dauphiné or 2016 Tour.

Yeah it's weird. I read at a glance that there was a protracted legal battle behind the scenes and that the doping testing lab finally yielded that some of the science of the test could be challenged much to UCI chagrin (apparently ?). I guess the ASO rebuff forced the hand of the UCI to reach a decision...
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies :MichaelHarrington:
Post by: VomKriege on July 05, 2018, 05:39:39 AM
The Cycling Podcast has some musings about the Froome case :
- The rule is that suspicious cases are held private before they're confirmed to be actual doping violations. WADA own reporting is that 66% or so of the litigious samples end up clear. It's true that in that light, Froome wasn't treated "fairly" and that may explain why it felt like it dragged for so long.
- The problematic substance is not outright banned, you can use it without an exemption provided you're under a certain threshold. There's also a lot of actual science details (factoring dehydration or not etc...) to explain why it took so long.
- Apparently the UCI was operating under pressure as they didn't want to give the impression Froome was judged with a lighter hand, hence why it was leaning towards a harder stance that he would be punished if it was a conclusive violation.

And of course, the case may have been legally settled but it probably did nothing to change the mind of anti / pro Froome & Sky people.
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies :MichaelHarrington:
Post by: Kara on July 06, 2018, 12:03:41 AM
I'll give it a listen. They touched on your first point in this week's Cycling Tips podcast and it's a fair point... if we accept claims we can't verify from an international organization that's routinely discredited.

Speaking of, it's ludicrous that WADA didn't even make Froome submit a controlled pharmacokinetic study. Are all in competition adverse findings waived now for the same reason? What about strict rider liability, is that gone too? Or is the answer to both of those questions, "No, unless you have massive Murdoch money behind you."

Should I start a separate Tour de France thread for this weekend?
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies :MichaelHarrington:
Post by: VomKriege on July 11, 2018, 03:46:55 AM
We'll probably be only be two to react. I'd say this thread can do with the temporary derail ?

I mean personally I don't like Froome and I'm one of the "haters" for sure so...

Apparently a bit of a spat yesterday between Dave Brailsford of Sky and UCI President David Lappartient, the former calling the latter "a French town mayor in spirit" which is funny because Lappartient is a town mayor, of the city hosting yesterday's stage arrival. Lappartient fired back by playing dumb and saying that if it was meant as an insult, Brailsford should maybe remember there would be no Tour without mayors.

It was a day of anger as team Quick Step was very pissed that no other team helped them pacing the bunch yesterday, going as far as calling them Mickey Mouse teams with Mickey Mouse tactics (  :reeeee ). QS is apparently the only team who brought a real sprinting train this year, the smaller teammates headcount shifted common tactics to sprinters having only a couple of pacers now. They did not work in vain though as Gaviria won his second stage for the Belgian squad.

Lionel Birnie also revealed he had a cheeky nickname for team Cofidis : Cofidisappointing.
:neogaf
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies :MichaelHarrington:
Post by: VomKriege on July 12, 2018, 01:20:46 PM
Bardet and Dumoulin losing time today because of mechanicals (and a 20 seconds penalty for Dumoulin  on top of it) while Martin wins the stage centered around the Mur de Bretagne.

Cobbles stage on Sunday. I might try to catch that one...

Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies :MichaelHarrington:
Post by: Kara on July 12, 2018, 03:37:52 PM
Did people slack on sprint trains because of the roster reduction or because no one is going to take the green jersey from Sagan? The world may never know. (Quick Step isn't the most logically run team so they're inoculated against both I suppose.)

Julian Alaphilippe is having a nice tour so far. Doubt he'll survive the mountains with Quick Step though.

Roubaix is going to be :noah, I'm so stoked.

Also I guess I should out myself as a Direct Énergie supporter. :shaq2
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies (Tour de France, brehs)
Post by: TEEEPO on July 12, 2018, 03:41:07 PM
 :shaq2
bardet and dumoulin
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies :MichaelHarrington:
Post by: VomKriege on July 12, 2018, 04:16:59 PM
Did people slack on sprint trains because of the roster reduction or because no one is going to take the green jersey from Sagan? The world may never know. (Quick Step isn't the most logically run team so they're inoculated against both I suppose.)

Julian Alaphilippe is having a nice tour so far. Doubt he'll survive the mountains with Quick Step though.

Roubaix is going to be :noah, I'm so stoked.

Also I guess I should out myself as a Direct Énergie supporter. :shaq2

Roster reductions it seems. I mean... QS won the two actual sprints without much pain so they probably were right to but they can afford to with no real GC contender. Alaphilippe is doing good but probably is frustrated to be well placed but without a win.

Honestly Direct Énergie is probably a better choice than FDJ or Cofidis  :doge

I'd take literally anyone over Froome but without any specifics. If I had to choose, Bardet of course (but I don't think he has it in him...) or Nibali (always was find of Italian GC riders). Curious to see how Landa will do too, though I fully expect Movistar to be a total clusterfuck as usual.
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies (Tour de France, brehs)
Post by: TEEEPO on July 12, 2018, 04:17:50 PM
i also have no idea how i eluded this thread for so long. cycling is a huge part of my identity

it's a bit of a bummer that stage 9 is on the same day as the world cup finals though it's a short stage and start times can change

i just hope the gap furthers between tvg/porte and thomas/froome on the cobbles. i want full fuckery
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies (Tour de France, brehs)
Post by: VomKriege on July 12, 2018, 04:20:32 PM
Hopefully Barguil deliver some class too. It's a shame the guy sounds so mercurial and reluctant to discipline but I guess that may his charm too.
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies (Tour de France, brehs)
Post by: TEEEPO on July 12, 2018, 04:36:18 PM
and this thread is the perfect excuse to post a pic of my whip
(https://i.imgur.com/WEfoaJT.jpg)

the photo is a bit dated. she's now sporting the new mavic cosmic pro carbon sl ust wheelset

tubeless  :rejoice
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies (Tour de France, brehs)
Post by: Kara on July 12, 2018, 04:38:53 PM
i also have no idea how i eluded this thread for so long. cycling is a huge part of my identity

The old thread title was a French language Obama era pun joined to a meta reference to the Bore motorcycle thread joined to a reference to a 1960s book about poverty in America; I'm kind of surprised anyone figured out it was a cycling thread.

Anyway, bienvenue. :) In the fashion thread I think you indicated you're a Fred? Whatcha ride? :phil

e: lmao, beaten already. How do you like the SRAM?
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies (Tour de France, brehs)
Post by: VomKriege on July 12, 2018, 04:47:54 PM
Copy pasted from CyclingNews

Quote
Movistar SD Arrieta, yesterday:
"Another race will start for us after the cobblestones stage. But we don't have three leaders. We have only one leader: it's Nairo Quintana because of his past at the Tour de France."

Suuuure.

Edit : He denied saying that, when asked by As  :lol
The first quote appeared on the Tour official site.
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies (Tour de France, brehs)
Post by: TEEEPO on July 12, 2018, 04:55:23 PM
quintana on the cobbles :lol :lol :lol
though he is a fairly decent sprinter and much better time trialist than people give him credit for



the sram force 22 is finicky af if not properly dialed in but i've only ever ridden sram so the fuck do i kno  :idont
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies (Tour de France, brehs)
Post by: VomKriege on July 13, 2018, 11:27:31 AM
Nibali wins the stage !
Well, younger brother of Vincenzo, Antonio won a stage on the Tour of Austria, that is.

Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies (Tour de France, brehs)
Post by: BisMarckie on July 13, 2018, 09:05:41 PM
I am only a really casual watcher of the TDF so please excuse my ignorance:

Is there any realistic way for Froome not to win again? Is the time he lost so far going to matter?
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies (Tour de France, brehs)
Post by: Kara on July 13, 2018, 11:20:46 PM
He could suffer a catastrophic mechanical again; the Pinarello Dogma X-Light is still made out of hopes and dreams.

Losing is unlikely though--he has domestiques who would be the #1 rider on other teams and is a supreme physical specimen with cutting edge doping marginal gains on a team that basically exists to win the Tour.

Unrelated: VK, is Pierre Rolland a "meme" rider in France? Among anglophones he is (https://www.reddit.com/r/olland/) and it's one of my guilty pleasures.
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies (Tour de France, brehs)
Post by: VomKriege on July 14, 2018, 12:07:53 AM
I'm not familiar enough with the sport the rest of the year to be certain about Rolland. I'm not sure he's a meme and I think there's a bit of slight disappointment with his results considering his White Jersey and his very good placing in the Giro 2014. But most promising French riders are held to a brutal standard of The Next Tour Hope.

The time Froome lost so far is inconsequential really, all the more since there's barely any serious GC contenders in front of him with 20" or so at best. It's a bit pointless to speculate on his form based on that just yet, before the race starts proper in the mountains. Last year Froome conceded 22" to Bardet in the last 300m of the 12th stage but in the end he was as strong as ever. And he still has the individual time trial in the penultimate stage to close minuscule gaps & cushion itself against non specialists (Bardet for instance).

As Kara said, he also have the best GC team. I would be less definitive about the foregone conclusion but unless he has some catastrophic event (on the cobbles or something), it will take either a rival with an overclocked performance and/or Froome facing real difficulties (which may happen, since he also rode and won the Giro a few weeks ago) to lose his favourite status.
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies (Tour de France, brehs)
Post by: VomKriege on July 14, 2018, 07:10:37 AM
Yesterday was an absolute bore and howler of a flat stage, which sparked the usual debates. I'm one to accept not every day can be done at 100%, effort & risk management is an integral part of a three weeks race, and that it's not good to bow the sport to just entertainment & TV purposes. Nowadays current Tour make a better job at spicing the first week than 20 years ago ? Or so it seems to me.

The only thing that really bothers me is the question is how can we make breakaways a viable alternative in the flatter stages instead of a fool's errand (or hopeless publicity stunt). I'm not sure it's possible in this age of radios.

Edit : It's a bit of a shame that due to the later start this year the Bastille Day stage looks so flat though. It is what it is...
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies (Tour de France, brehs)
Post by: VomKriege on July 14, 2018, 07:33:47 AM
Oh and it seems that two days ago Bardet and Dumoulin crashed into each other resulting in their mutual mechanical and it only became known in the late evening. Dutch media is hyperventilating because Dumoulin didn't get help in maybe a timely manner (his only domestique at that moment was too short to swap bikes).

Edit : more drama

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/tensions-emerge-within-katusha-as-konyshev-labels-kittel-as-egotistical/
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies (Tour de France, brehs)
Post by: Kara on July 14, 2018, 10:19:20 AM
Sagan :lol
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies (Tour de France, brehs)
Post by: TEEEPO on July 14, 2018, 11:26:12 AM

The only thing that really bothers me is the question is how can we make breakaways a viable alternative in the flatter stages instead of a fool's errand (or hopeless publicity stunt). I'm not sure it's possible in this age of radios.

ez, rid the peloton of power meters and limit the radio broadcasts like they did for they olympics.
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies (Tour de France, brehs)
Post by: VomKriege on July 14, 2018, 12:31:53 PM
Sagan :lol

Gaviria and Greipel were penalised for headbutts so Sagan officially is in second place of the stage still.
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies (Tour de France, brehs)
Post by: VomKriege on July 14, 2018, 12:33:45 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/SophieSmith86/status/1018138216552173568

I guess the lesson here is "don't sign with Katusha".
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies (Tour de France, brehs)
Post by: VomKriege on July 14, 2018, 12:48:38 PM
So lot of hype for the cobbles tomorrow, a lot of fans are hoping for the specialists and their teams to ride hard and possibly create gaps. There was also no break up to this point even if the last two stages weren't too hard for the peloton.

Dans Martin crashed today and is injured, he'll probably suffer a bit tomorrow if he starts. Too bad, he was a good show last year.

Apparently people expect QuickStep to continue riding fast tomorrow, they've been the team taking responsibilities the most this far.

Edit :

Quote
great bit of coverage - well spotted by Millar

Boulting I wonder why Ag2R have come to the front - looks like Naesen and Vuillermoz - not sure why they are there

Millar - Could be because of the wind maybe a change of direction its a tail cross at the moment --- (
sudden helicopter shot showing 90 degree turn in road and long flat straight) ...no look they will turn and it will be a cross wind and that will start to cause mayhem starting from the back ( peloton completely lined out now) - echelons could form

Boulting ( intrigued) yes , yes gaps are forming , Kristoff chasing ...a group has gone clear

Prediction accuracy 100% : Insight 100%
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Kirby: Some cyclists from the same team with the blue and brown jerseys are on the front . Maybe it's a feed zone. Well they are feeding on the excitement of the crowd. Oh this is marvellous.

:neogaf

https://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=20379382#p20379382 (https://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=20379382#p20379382)
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies (Tour de France, brehs)
Post by: TEEEPO on July 14, 2018, 01:37:34 PM
tony martin suffered a spinal fracture so he will not be starting tomorrow  :'(
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies (Tour de France, brehs)
Post by: Kara on July 14, 2018, 02:03:36 PM
Shitty. :(

I don't think the stage will be very exciting tomorrow, just looking forward to a mini Paris-Roubaix (it's my favorite race) with a bunch of grand tour hopefuls getting beaten the hell up.
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies (Tour de France, brehs)
Post by: VomKriege on July 14, 2018, 05:23:42 PM
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/tour-de-france-more-disappointment-for-empty-handed-demare/

Another Tour, another middling FDJ showing...
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies (Tour de France, brehs)
Post by: TEEEPO on July 14, 2018, 06:04:02 PM
the kittel incident was overblown, naturally

https://twitter.com/CyclingCentral/status/1018159111362564096

still not a good look
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies (Tour de France, brehs)
Post by: VomKriege on July 14, 2018, 07:34:47 PM
Kittel ANNIHILATES bike by leaving at the door of the bus.

The Tour is also the time for transfer rumours. L'Equipe from today suggests Richie Porte, leaving the possibly dunking ship of BMC, might be going to Aqua Blue (instead of Trek as conventional wisdom had it) which would also upgrade to a World Tour licence.

Porte is not that hot a commodity as he's aging and his GT pedigree is not that strong all things considered (unless of course he ranks well in a couple of weeks) so there's not a lot of teams he could reasonably en up with at the moment.
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies (Tour de France, brehs)
Post by: TEEEPO on July 15, 2018, 03:06:53 AM
 :rejoice
the best part about living in the states is that there is no way i'll be spoiled by the outcome

 :stahp
though waiting on tiz to upload the race on weekends
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies (Tour de France, brehs)
Post by: VomKriege on July 15, 2018, 07:04:49 AM
No internet so will have to follow the stage on the radio, am forced to tune in to RMC, the main sport radio, a bunch of obnoxious loud fuckwits. Of course will probably have to suffer a lot of pregame filler for the WC final.

Pray for me.

Oh god Porte out of the Tour, he crashed right at the start of the stage :lol the biggest favourite who never was.
Go Vincenzo !
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies (Tour de France, brehs)
Post by: VomKriege on July 15, 2018, 07:11:52 AM
What the fuck they're editing together some of the commentary of the 1998 final with a Macron speech in his campaign where he went berserk  :lol RMC you hack frauds !
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies (Tour de France, brehs)
Post by: VomKriege on July 15, 2018, 07:17:13 AM
Rojas (Movistar) out.
Greipel caught in the crash.
Dumoulin trailing behind due to a mechanical.

And we didn't even reach the first cobbles  :lawd

Edit : Fuck this, switched to NOS. Can't speak Dutch but at least it's real race coverage. And a Michel Fugain song as interlude.

Edit : 10 men up front including Calmajane and De Gendt.

Edit : Dan Martin in a lot of pain after yesterday's crash. May throw the towel. Sad, the guy can animate a stage...

Edit : Keukeleire (Lotto S) out too, caught in the early crash.
Breakaway has reached the cobbles first section.
Bardet punctured.
Bardet came back but changed bikes twice :yeshrug
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies (Tour de France, brehs)
Post by: VomKriege on July 15, 2018, 08:27:49 AM
Shots fired at Elon Musk on BikeRadar :

https://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=20380628#p20380628 (https://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=20380628#p20380628)

Quote
Elon Musk is really sad it's not raining, would have loved to get his submarine out to rescue a trapped rider. Quintana would fit it easily.

Quote
He could save the world you know.

A crash and 4 riders taking a shortcut...

Edit : Bardet dropped and chasing again after a mechanical...
Froome caught in a crash but back with the MJ group.
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies (Tour de France, brehs)
Post by: Kara on July 15, 2018, 10:20:27 AM
MAI HUSBANDO WON MY FAVORITE (FACSIMILE) RACE :heart :heart :heart :heart :heart

GOD IS REAL
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies (Tour de France, brehs)
Post by: VomKriege on July 15, 2018, 10:28:10 AM
That was animated but less GC chances than could have been expected, maybe ? Though Porte out, Uran losing time, Landa & Bardet closing the gap on Froome by the very end (ridiculous stage for Bardet, plagued by issues, had a tough day with multiple chases), Quintana finishing alongside Froome are all interesting.
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies (Tour de France, brehs)
Post by: Kara on July 15, 2018, 10:58:21 AM
Porte feels like it should be a big deal but I haven't taken him seriously in this race for awhile.

Bedhead Bardet staying in the top 20 after that horrible stage could be a big deal. Pinot would have crumbled after a stretch like that.

Sky keeping 2 in the top 10 definitely a big deal.

Everyone was pretty cautious though, which is to be expected.

Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies (Tour de France, brehs)
Post by: VomKriege on July 15, 2018, 11:58:56 AM
Bardet has a good cadre of domestiques too, those guys will die for him. It's easier because they're only really playing GC but still. I can't see him winning unless Froome has a nasty flop or fringale but he's a worker, I can give him that. Though people are already speculating he got help from motos or something because French favouritism. Still not having lost the Tour until now was pretty much the goal here.

Looking at the GC Barguil is just there almost at the time. He had a stinker of a season but who knows what legs he'll have on the climbs.

Edit : Dan Martin survived the day.
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies (Tour de France, brehs)
Post by: VomKriege on July 15, 2018, 12:05:25 PM
Bernal, previously a favourite for the white jersey, lost 16mn.
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies (Tour de France, brehs)
Post by: VomKriege on July 15, 2018, 01:55:56 PM
Oh god people whining it wasn't a difficult enough stage. Or that it was too difficult. Fans are never happy.
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies (Tour de France, brehs)
Post by: VomKriege on July 15, 2018, 02:37:46 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/ridemediaHQ/status/1018503620612927488

That's a quote from BMC manager and everyone interprets it as a passive aggressive shot at Porte, who as mentioned is probably off to a new team soon.

If so it is pretty harsh, I mean the guy knows in how much pain he is, I don't think he retired lighty. It's not impossible the medical assessment on the spot was also playing cautious.

Still it seems to confirm everyone's bias that the Aussie is not tough enough to be Tour winning material. "He didn't even try to go back on his bike" (I'd be wary commenting on that on the basis of just the TV broadcast), many people are saying. Reckless as it is, maybe they're right and it's true some riders would and did try to continue racing with nasty injuries.

Another common remark, a longstanding one and perhaps fairer, is that Porte bike handling has never been all that.
---
Bernal fucked by BMC car...
https://giant.gfycat.com/IdleHandsomeKilldeer.webm

---

Fracture after all ?

https://mobile.twitter.com/inrng/status/1018546662615154689
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies (Tour de France, brehs)
Post by: Kara on July 15, 2018, 04:42:53 PM
BMC is going to announce a merger with CCC–Sprandi–Polkowice on Monday to save their World Tour license; I'd say he's pissed that this will take the limelight from that but Van Avermaet is still in yellow. Sure am glad an Armstrong ally like Ochowicz is sticking around. :yuck

spoiler (click to show/hide)
RIP orange jerseys in the peloton. RIP Guerciotti in the peloton. :'(
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Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies (Tour de France, brehs)
Post by: VomKriege on July 16, 2018, 04:38:13 AM
So I'm listening to the Doping Corner The Move formerly known as Stages, Lance Armstrong's podcast. It has a reputation for being the most riding technique focused out there, whatever you think of Lance (or Hincapie). The tone is more edgy than the utterly polite and British Cycling Podcast, of course. The one about yesterday's stage is decent.

They speak a bit about the latest hysteria around motors in bikes, Lance is pretty candid about it all (though he doesn't believe in motors in the pro peloton) "Lots of shit happening in the peloton in my days but no motors.".
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies (Tour de France, brehs)
Post by: VomKriege on July 16, 2018, 06:24:20 PM
Vuillermoz (AG2R) out.

Otherwise with over a week in and many events, crashes and small surprises, everything sort of balanced itself to keep GC fairly even out...

Basically any serious contender is within 130 seconds (a little more if you include Dan Martin as a very outside chance but he's banged up). Froome hasn't killed the race yet despite the TTT so there's that I guess.

There seems to be all this faux hype around Thomas being an internal rival (with even Wiggins writing a paper in the Guardian about it which is pretty abrasive to Brailsford, a "self serving" who will play both sides and be "in their ears constantly"), but this narrative is brought up every year when it's actually very rare for a super dom to outright challenge their leader (they're mostly content with a good GC placing and signing a lucrative deal elsewhere).

Movistar finished the cobbles in a fairly good and surprising place. I'm still not convinced by the whole three leaders thing. People are hopeful that each playing their solo chance recklessly could actually be the best way to make Sky suffer... Another narrative brought up every year but reality is often that everyone plays super defensive.

Apparently ASO decided to have some very short mountain stages in the mix, to incentivize riders going all in all stage I guess ? And tomorrow stage should be pretty brutal as an opener.
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies (Tour de France, brehs)
Post by: TEEEPO on July 17, 2018, 02:52:56 AM
 :whew

just caught up. some of the most exhilarating shit i've seen all year; a rollercoaster of a stage

https://twitter.com/modcyclingphoto/status/1018590876187193345

bardet :bow2
didn't expect less after his strade bainchi performance. if craddock drops, the combativity jersey is his


:fbm
and porte



anyways, i know nearly all the roads by heart for tomorrow's ride so i'm excited af
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies (Tour de France, brehs)
Post by: VomKriege on July 17, 2018, 01:17:04 PM
Alaphilippe for the win, the Yellow Jersey on the breakaway (cool) otherwise a pretty defensive day for the GC with Uran the only one to lose big, other minor GC contenders losing a few seconds (haven't checked) and the Sky train chow chowing...

Saw a guy nicknaming the Spanish team Vomistar on CyclingNews tho :lol
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies (Tour de France, brehs)
Post by: VomKriege on July 17, 2018, 04:10:24 PM
Seen on CN

Quote
Dekker_Tifosi wrote:
Kittel, Cavendish and Groenewegen make the time limit with only 30 seconds to spare

Sprinters gonna suffer this year.
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies (Tour de France, brehs)
Post by: VomKriege on July 17, 2018, 07:56:31 PM
https://www.podiumcafe.com/2018/7/17/17583750/they-must-take-advantage

Surely something has to happen tomorrow !

Well, one can hope.
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies (Tour de France, brehs)
Post by: TEEEPO on July 17, 2018, 11:58:28 PM
 :larry
boring day

 :whew
annecy though
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies (Tour de France, brehs)
Post by: TEEEPO on July 18, 2018, 12:00:17 AM
even though i didn't expect a gc battle today, i did expect more from the gc competition
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies (Tour de France, brehs)
Post by: VomKriege on July 18, 2018, 08:18:31 AM
Attacks right from the drop of the flag, with riders aggressively jockeying for position in the neutralised start already, at the level of the red car of the Tour director. Hopefully a good omen for today.

Sagan, Barguil, Caruso among the five trying to break immediately.
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies (Tour de France, brehs)
Post by: VomKriege on July 18, 2018, 11:51:38 AM
Well color me surprised, Thomas attacked Froome and vice versa. This will throw a wrench in the Sky finely tuned locomotive, hopefully, because otherwise Froome seems on the level with only Dumoulin as a serious contender if it comes down to the ITT...

Vomistar :trash

We have a better idea of who really contend for the podium now.
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies (Tour de France, brehs)
Post by: BisMarckie on July 18, 2018, 12:15:17 PM
elle colorés me surprised, Thomas attacked Froome and vice versa. This will throw a wrench in the Sky finely tuned locomotive, hopefully, because otherwise Froome seems on the level with only Dumoulin as a serious contender if it comes down to the ITT...

Vomistar :trash

We have a better idea of who really contend for the podium now.

Again, I am only a casual watcher and I only saw the last 30km today, but Thomas and Froome looked like they just got out of the shower ready to go when they crossed the finish line.
How in the world is that possible?
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies (Tour de France, brehs)
Post by: VomKriege on July 18, 2018, 12:33:38 PM
elle colorés me surprised, Thomas attacked Froome and vice versa. This will throw a wrench in the Sky finely tuned locomotive, hopefully, because otherwise Froome seems on the level with only Dumoulin as a serious contender if it comes down to the ITT...

Vomistar :trash

We have a better idea of who really contend for the podium now.

Again, I am only a casual watcher and I only saw the last 30km today, but Thomas and Froome looked like they just got out of the shower ready to go when they crossed the finish line.
How in the world is that possible?

Asthma.
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies (Tour de France, brehs)
Post by: BisMarckie on July 18, 2018, 12:36:39 PM
:ohyou

I mean yeah I have no doubt that these guys are doped, but so is everyone else. Is Team Sky just that much better at it?  :doge
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies (Tour de France, brehs)
Post by: VomKriege on July 18, 2018, 12:59:44 PM
Cynical and speculative : Better doping regimen. And state of the art training.
Reasonable : Better poker face and hard to gauge on TV actual fatigue level.
Rational : Better pacing and protection until the very last Kms.

We'll see if Froome (and Dumoulin) cracks. He ran and won the Giro, up until recently common wisdom was that in modern times you couldn't do both really. Froome in on his way to possibly winning four, five if he decides to ride the Vuelta (?), of all the major GTs in succession which is unprecedented (in the modern era if not ever).

Froome has "days without" sometimes and he could bonk (or so I hope). Thomas is unproven on three weeks, he's crash prone, the consensus is that he looks the best he ever had on the Tour.

In the end Sky on the TdF is just that much a stronger team, it's ridiculous.
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies (Tour de France, brehs)
Post by: VomKriege on July 18, 2018, 01:07:30 PM
Kittel, Cavendish, Renshaw, possibly Zabel out (but apparently reinstated, he arrived 3 seconds late), over the time limit (which has been made more lenient by ASO). At this rate the Champs sprint is gonna be full of fresh faces. And Sagan.
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies (Tour de France, brehs)
Post by: VomKriege on July 18, 2018, 05:33:59 PM
As always this time of year, when the Tour get sucker punched by USPS Sky, comes the question of budgets and how Sky can afford its super team. There's no doubt they are the top spenders by a decent margin but at the same time Katusha is supposedly not too far (32m euros against 35 or 37 in 2017) yet the difference of quality on the road feels much larger. Meanwhile QuickStep has a great team (though not for GTs) and enjoy much success on half the price... And the money doesn't seem to account entirely in having two (maybe three) British GT winners in succession.

The race has been like this for 20 years now and I don't know you solve this. The pro DS riders certainly don't either, obviously.

Edit : on financing, a quote (origin unclear)found on CN regarding Vaughterd...

Quote
Much of that stress seemed to be of Vaughters’s own creation. He’d been relying on some creative accounting — to put it kindly — for the last few years to effectively inflate the team’s budget beyond its actual means. Every team in the WorldTour has a bank guarantee with the UCI, so that if the team folds, salaries continue to be paid for about three months. Slipstream had been leaning on this guarantee, only funding itself through October of each year. If it didn’t find a sponsor by then, it would run out of money and the UCI would pay salaries through the end of the year.

http://forum.cyclingnews.com/viewtopic.php?p=2207998#p2207998
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies (Tour de France, brehs)
Post by: VomKriege on July 19, 2018, 06:31:59 AM
How François Thomazeau broke the Festina affair for Reuters

The Cycling Podcast: 76: Kilometre 0 – Breaking the story (Download link)
https://audioboom.com/posts/6938376.mp3?modified=1531990705&source=rss&stitched=1
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies (Tour de France, brehs)
Post by: VomKriege on July 19, 2018, 07:11:33 AM
Rowe and Poels (Sky) apparently already at the back of the peloton. High paced start... Maybe the Sky train won't attack the Apple d'Huez with 4 doms still ?

Edit : Well false hopes. The train will probably control the race until the very last Kms of the ultimate climb.
:yeshrug
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies (Tour de France, brehs)
Post by: Kara on July 19, 2018, 11:09:42 AM
Edit : on financing, a quote (origin unclear)found on CN regarding Vaughterd...

Quote
Much of that stress seemed to be of Vaughters’s own creation. He’d been relying on some creative accounting — to put it kindly — for the last few years to effectively inflate the team’s budget beyond its actual means. Every team in the WorldTour has a bank guarantee with the UCI, so that if the team folds, salaries continue to be paid for about three months. Slipstream had been leaning on this guarantee, only funding itself through October of each year. If it didn’t find a sponsor by then, it would run out of money and the UCI would pay salaries through the end of the year.

http://forum.cyclingnews.com/viewtopic.php?p=2207998#p2207998

It's from this article.

https://www.velonews.com/2017/10/feature/inside-slipstreams-brush-with-death_450279

There is definitely a finance issue in the sport but to a certain degree it's self-inflicted, first in chasing away sponsors with poor doping prevention (how many people know Festina makes watches?) and then in allowing sponsorship to become very insular (a few years ago we had a bunch of factory teams with no title sponsors).

Kenny: There are definitely tiers in doping. Lance competed in one of the dirtiest eras ever but his regimen was so good that he could stand out. In addition to that there are ethical tiers in the sport that are purely voluntary. Some teams belong to MPCC which is an organization that holds its members to higher standards than WADA and other teams do not. To illustrate this in practice, Bradley Wiggins was able to compete while taking a banned substance because of a special exemption. If Sky had been a member of MPCC at the time he would not have been able to compete.

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/now-we-understand-why-team-sky-never-joined-says-mpcc-doctor/

imo people should only support MPCC teams if they want a cleaner sport.
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies (Tour de France, brehs)
Post by: BisMarckie on July 19, 2018, 11:17:12 AM
I don't think Kruijswijk can do it :(
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies (Tour de France, brehs)
Post by: TEEEPO on July 19, 2018, 11:25:44 AM
:snoop
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies (Tour de France, brehs)
Post by: BisMarckie on July 19, 2018, 11:26:48 AM
Geez that guy in the Zidane jersey....
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies (Tour de France, brehs)
Post by: BisMarckie on July 19, 2018, 11:32:51 AM
Nibali down

Alpe d`Huez is always such a shitshow
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies (Tour de France, brehs)
Post by: TEEEPO on July 19, 2018, 11:33:31 AM
nibali taken down by a spectator, most likely  :maf
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies (Tour de France, brehs)
Post by: Kara on July 19, 2018, 11:44:23 AM
Chapeau, Bardet.
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies (Tour de France, brehs)
Post by: BisMarckie on July 19, 2018, 11:47:47 AM
TIL that Dumoulin is not French :doge
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies (Tour de France, brehs)
Post by: VomKriege on July 19, 2018, 12:34:50 PM
Nibali taken down by a (gendarmerie ?) motorbike blinded with some of the smoke canisters the spectators cracked open...
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies (Tour de France, brehs)
Post by: VomKriege on July 19, 2018, 05:00:37 PM
Nibs out. That sucks.

Bardet could podium again (he's proving year in and year out he can keep pace with the best of them up until the very last kilometers) but I fear he will never win a tour unless he suddenly become a raging time trialist or with freak conditions. Dumoulin looking good so far too.

Edit : I stand corrected, it wasn't a motor bike who took out Nibali

https://twitter.com/LeGruppetto/status/1020050957525311494

Also the fuck at the asshole who tried to punch Froome. I don't mind the booing, but that's just heinous and sad.
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies (Tour de France, brehs)
Post by: Kara on July 20, 2018, 02:27:00 AM
idk if Bardet can podium this year. He lost yet another teammate last stage and the mountains are going to add up fast with Naesen. He'll need an amazing solo (again).

Sucks that he's on the back foot and Uran is out.
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies (Tour de France, brehs)
Post by: VomKriege on July 20, 2018, 04:08:09 AM
idk if Bardet can podium this year. He lost yet another teammate last stage and the mountains are going to add up fast with Naesen. He'll need an amazing solo (again).

Sucks that he's on the back foot and Uran is out.

I could see it if at least one of the two Sky leaders fade. I think Bardet is the best climber with consistent form of the remaining GC contenders. But yeah all current top 7 or 8 riders could podium.

Props to Lotto Jumbo though, they're having a better year as a GC contender than 2017. Kruijswijk attack probably helped shaking things up yesterday because otherwise it could have super defensive again.

The old "wise" consultant on Belgian radio was super cranky yesterday, basically calling sprinters a bunch of lazy bums checking out on the broom wagon and disrespecting the sport. Seems awfully hyperbolic for a freak year in the numbers of sprinters not making the time limit.

Edit :
Lionel Birnie goes to Dutch corner
The Cycling Podcast: 78: Kilometre 0 – Dutch Corner (download link)
https://audioboom.com/posts/6939837.mp3?modified=1532073208&source=rss&stitched=1

It's minor but you hear Dutch fans booing the Sky team. I'm saying it because reading English speaking forums the only people being abusive in the Tour live audience are all assumed to be French.
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies (Tour de France, brehs)
Post by: VomKriege on July 20, 2018, 08:05:47 AM
Halfway through it, time to whip out the commentary bingo !

- "First week sucks."
- "All riders are content to be made into a giant dad (edit: that's an hilarious word filter :lol) by Sky for minor honours, SAD !"
- A GC contender tries a long distance attack "No it's too early ! You're only making it easier for Sky !"
- A GC contender tries an attack on the finish "No it's too late ! You're only making it easier for Sky !"
- Inconsistent rulings by commissars.
- FRENCH FAVORITISM  :maf
- "Attacking while a rival is down, shameful !" "Fuck that it's a race."
- "That blurry, poorly framed gif seals it : that bike has a motor in it."
- "Don't run alongside the riders !"
- "Those wildcards teams shouldn't even be in."
- Week 1 : "Movistar has one of the strongest teams, maybe they can best Sky."
- "It's totally Valverde's year !" :insane
- Week 2 : "Movistar is trash."
- Week 1 : "Cofidis sucks."
- Week 2 : "Cofidis sucks."
- Week 3 : "Cofidis sucks."
- "That was terrible, cycling is dead, I'm not watching the Tour ever again." :maf said every year.

Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies (Tour de France, brehs)
Post by: VomKriege on July 20, 2018, 11:44:21 AM
Quote
Quote
This Sagan bloke is utterly dominating the sprints.
Beat the plucky French hope.
Why aren't the crowd booing? :P

Maybe they are asleep?

https://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=20385890#p20385890 (https://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=20385890#p20385890)

:lol
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies (Tour de France, brehs)
Post by: TEEEPO on July 20, 2018, 03:21:30 PM
tour ratings are down for both france and the uk

it's hard to know if its solely attributed to the world cup, the recent scandals surrounding team sky or the tour being the same damn thing year in and year out due to the expensive sky train. my guess is all three
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies (Tour de France, brehs)
Post by: VomKriege on July 20, 2018, 06:13:53 PM
tour ratings are down for both france and the uk

it's hard to know if its solely attributed to the world cup, the recent scandals surrounding team sky or the tour being the same damn thing year in and year out due to the expensive sky train. my guess is all three

It's been widely noted, in all the controversy in yesterday's stage, that the Alpe d'Huez was less crowded than usual though it probably had to do with more severe security too. Today's episode of the Cycling Podcast alluded to the often not mentioned point that security, beyond protecting riders from stupid assholes, may be concerned with any sort of attack (notably in the wake of the Nice attack in two years ago). Crétins running too close or taking a jab is a bit of a marronnier, it has been going on for years. Overall it's  a small miracle (or testament that mankind ain't so bad) in itself that so few mass accidents happened on a three week event spanning thousands of km of free access for the public only a few metres away from the athletes.

To get back on track, I think this Tour experiments (we still have that super short mountain stage with a grid start coming...) are probably ASO trying to shake the formula. It's good but ultimately the main issue is Sky suffocating competition in the race... And ASO can't solve this by itself.

Though maybe some revenue sharing with the teams might help, somehow... If only to help them out of the constant state of sponsorship precarity Kara mentioned earlier. UCI wants to keep the number of World Tour teams stable year on year but it's not clear they would have done so without Bahreďn and the UAE bankrolling a couple of squads. The absence of an "Italian" team at the WT level is mind-blowing to be honest.
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies (Tour de France, brehs)
Post by: VomKriege on July 20, 2018, 06:58:57 PM
I stand corrected, the UCI may actually want to reduce the number of WT teams to 16, maybe even 15 under Lappartient :

http://forum.cyclingnews.com/viewtopic.php?p=2284923#p2284923 (http://forum.cyclingnews.com/viewtopic.php?p=2284923#p2284923)

He is also apparently pushing for better minimum wage in female cycling (post just before the one I linked).
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies (Tour de France, brehs)
Post by: VomKriege on July 21, 2018, 12:59:46 PM
Yeah it's gonna be hard for Bardet unless he has some smashing legs in the Pyrénées. I hoped he could take a handful of second today but he lost time. And even if the leaders fade they're all taking time on the ITT (Roglic is good there, right ?).

Guess it's time to root for Dumoulin...

http://forum.cyclingnews.com/viewtopic.php?p=2291744#p2291744

Quote
Guess Movistar needs a couple more leaders

:dead
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies (Tour de France, brehs)
Post by: Kara on July 21, 2018, 04:51:30 PM
Roglic is really good in the time trial.

I'd be excited for the individual time trial this year but it's too late in the race (like last year) for my taste.

Also for whatever reason no one has figured out all we want to watch when there's a time trial is the entirety of a contender's ride instead of constantly cutting to a rider that just started. :zzz :zzz :zzz

Speaking of Bedhead Bardet, I didn't know he had Napoleon on his custom frame this year. :doge

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tHlkSsoo2Fs

"The French Brand" on those custom MAVIC wheels. :doge CORIMA annihilated. :teehee
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies (Tour de France, brehs)
Post by: VomKriege on July 21, 2018, 04:57:15 PM
I guess the ITT is so late not to kill the suspense but yeah... It makes for an anticlimactic ending (with the finale mostly neutralized). ITT are fine but as you pointed out the TV format is not optimal...
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies (Tour de France, brehs)
Post by: Kara on July 21, 2018, 04:59:35 PM
If Velon was smart they'd sell a cheap subscription to watch it from the perspective of your favorite rider. That would be so sweet.
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies (Tour de France, brehs)
Post by: VomKriege on July 21, 2018, 05:11:38 PM
Otherwise, another moron tried to throw liquid at Froome (ended on Bardet allegedly...). Barhain-Merida is considering legal action (http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/bahrain-merida-considering-legal-action-against-tour-de-france-after-nibali-crash) for Nibali crash and possible drama at Sky is not just between their two Tour contenders but all three of them, with Wiggo dropping yet more cryptic comments (http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/bradley-wiggins-were-still-not-at-the-bottom-of-it/).
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies (Tour de France, brehs)
Post by: VomKriege on July 22, 2018, 09:10:33 AM
Can't we just gift the MJ to Sagan ?
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies (Tour de France, brehs)
Post by: VomKriege on July 22, 2018, 01:49:16 PM
Moscon has apparently been kicked out of the race, no public statement on why yet... (An altercation between racers during the stage ?).

Moscon has already been in hot waters for racist remarks at a FDJ rider not too far back, and he was accused of crashing another FDJ guy as payback IIRC but this went nowhere as no images of the incident existed and witnesses had different versions. Since then not everyone is a friend in the peloton.

Edit : he hit a Fortuneo rider in the bunch.
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies (Tour de France, brehs)
Post by: VomKriege on July 24, 2018, 03:11:40 AM
Brailsford blames Tour de France roadside reactions on 'a French cultural thing'

Well fuck you too, Sir David John Brailsford.

Edit : As the Cycling Podcast commented, his father lived and worked here and himself is a bit of a Francophile and certainly familiar with the land. It makes that shit even more jarring because it's obviously just a cynical PR stunt. I don't know if it's to shift attention or give juicy bits to press but Sky lifting pages wholesale from Lance Armstrong and USPS then playing dumb at why everyone gets so suspicious is :maf
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies (Tour de France, brehs)
Post by: TEEEPO on July 24, 2018, 11:24:39 AM
poor Yates  :'(
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies (Tour de France, brehs)
Post by: VomKriege on July 24, 2018, 04:51:05 PM
Quote
I guess it's like a scene in a heist movie when they put the crew together

"So who's in Froomey's 8"
"We've got a solid crew, G, a lot of good guys. Kwiato and Week Three Wout you know. JC from the Valverde gang and this Colombian kid we've been hearing all about"
"Who's the muscle?"
"Our man Luke as usual and Moscon."
"Moscon, are you crazy?"
"I know, I know, I've heard the stories too, but I did a score with him in Spain and he was OK"
"But the kid's a hothead"
"Sure. Look, I wanted Kneesy from the Italian Job, or Dutch Dylan, but this comes from the top. The Big D has insisted, so forget about it"

https://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=20388594#p20388594 (https://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=20388594#p20388594)
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies (Tour de France, brehs)
Post by: TEEEPO on July 25, 2018, 02:14:24 AM
tomorrow, or today, is the day we've all been been waiting for and there are possible thunderstorms in the afternoon

 :gddr5

this has the potential to be a colossal shitshow

Quote
At Km 0, riders shall be positioned in the same order as the general classification after the previous stage. They shall be distributed into five different groups. The first twenty riders in the general classification shall be included in the first group in offset rows with the wearer of the yellow jersey in first place. Riders shall then position themselves freely in the other groups corresponding to their places in the general classification.

movistar has 3 riders in the top 20 so expect for some aggression straight out the gate. i feel this move despite being an obvious one is quite transparent with the way movistar elected to have two riders in the breakaway in yesterday's stage. the real question is who will cooperate with movistar? i expect at least one other team will join them in an attempt to break the sky train but i wouldn't be surprised if they whole damn lot joins in.

last year quintana had an impressive showing on the shortest stage of the tour which ended in a sprint finish, so i'm expecting quite a bit from him. not sure if i can handle much more of this mediocrity

spoiler (click to show/hide)
i know it's not his fault. light riders like him, bardet and such get destroyed by the timetrial pace of the sky train, which is partly why i fucking hate it so much. mountain stages have been entirely too predictable and quite frankly, boring.
[close]
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies (Tour de France, brehs)
Post by: VomKriege on July 25, 2018, 07:12:14 AM
It's gonna be do or die because if no GC rider goes hard from the start I don't see why Sky couldn't mount at least a partial train. All at the risk of breaking/getting a fringale and blowing your top 10 position. I think there will be action but wouldn't be too surprised if it's quieter than desired sadly. I hope Bardet, Steven Kruijswijk or the Movistar hombres have the legs.

Also pretty long odds on this but hear me out : Maybe, possibly, Dan Martin will kamikaze himself.

Otherwise it came out that for the cobbles AG2R had the wrong tyres on most bikes which may account for Bardet multiple punctures.  :shaq2 I know the whole "professionalism is why we blow races" is a bit of a running joke but that shit ain't serious if you claim to be contending for the Maillot Jaune.

Also Quick Step is looking for a main sponsor again. They struck a deal with Maes (the non alcoholic version anyway), the team has its budget regardless for next year, Quick Step will stay too but not as the team headline and Lefevere is probably baiting for better bids but still... QS is a top team, certainly the best Classics squad, very prominent in the last two TdF despite not playing GC, you'd think finding a sponsor wouldn't be too hard. The economic model in cycling is a bit of a dystopian miracle.
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies (Tour de France, brehs)
Post by: VomKriege on July 25, 2018, 07:29:09 AM
Read on BikeRadar forums :

Quote from: ddraver
I suspect the GC domestiques sprinting up through the field to 'help' might cause more carnage than anything at the front.
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies (Tour de France, brehs)
Post by: TEEEPO on July 25, 2018, 09:40:34 AM
 :fbm
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies (Tour de France, brehs)
Post by: TEEEPO on July 25, 2018, 09:42:31 AM
and the sky train is dictating the pace

grid start is a failure
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies (Tour de France, brehs)
Post by: TEEEPO on July 25, 2018, 10:39:37 AM
of all people, sagan crashed on the descent  :shaq2
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies (Tour de France, brehs)
Post by: TEEEPO on July 25, 2018, 10:43:22 AM
he's moving on the live tracker  :preach

Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies (Tour de France, brehs)
Post by: TEEEPO on July 25, 2018, 10:52:30 AM
shiit, quintana is putting in the work

haven't seen him do that since, 2016...
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies (Tour de France, brehs)
Post by: TEEEPO on July 25, 2018, 10:59:02 AM
sky tactically making TD work for GT  :shaq2
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies (Tour de France, brehs)
Post by: TEEEPO on July 25, 2018, 11:00:33 AM
QUINTANA MADE IT TO VALVERDE

 :gddr5

WHERE ARE YOU BIKE BORES
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies (Tour de France, brehs)
Post by: BisMarckie on July 25, 2018, 11:02:23 AM
Dumoulin the real MVP  :aah
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies (Tour de France, brehs)
Post by: VomKriege on July 25, 2018, 11:02:28 AM
At work following the stage.
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies (Tour de France, brehs)
Post by: TEEEPO on July 25, 2018, 11:03:21 AM
landa needs to make a move to try to break apart the train otherwise it will be for nothing
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies (Tour de France, brehs)
Post by: BisMarckie on July 25, 2018, 11:06:12 AM
It's hard to get excited though when the Sky train just devours the entire race.
Quintana is trying but they are only 250m ahead of Sky.
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies (Tour de France, brehs)
Post by: TEEEPO on July 25, 2018, 11:06:25 AM
sagan might abandon  :'(
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies (Tour de France, brehs)
Post by: TEEEPO on July 25, 2018, 11:10:18 AM
still 8km to go with altitudes that should benefit quintana but yea, sky is just stupidly strong

quintana's minute lead is slowly diminishing. it's almost a repeat of giro 2017 except exceptionally more lame. what TD managed to do that day was stuff off legends

TD is our only hope
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies (Tour de France, brehs)
Post by: Kara on July 25, 2018, 11:12:10 AM
QUINTANA MADE IT TO VALVERDE

 :gddr5

WHERE ARE YOU BIKE BORES

I'm here, really been enjoying this stage (aside from the Sky train :zzz).
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies (Tour de France, brehs)
Post by: TEEEPO on July 25, 2018, 11:15:28 AM
got damn, that road

this could be legendary...
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies (Tour de France, brehs)
Post by: BisMarckie on July 25, 2018, 11:17:50 AM
Dawaj Rafal!
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies (Tour de France, brehs)
Post by: TEEEPO on July 25, 2018, 11:27:03 AM
pouring one out for my boy bardet
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies (Tour de France, brehs)
Post by: TEEEPO on July 25, 2018, 11:30:52 AM
landa and froome struggling

not like it matters for the latter
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies (Tour de France, brehs)
Post by: TEEEPO on July 25, 2018, 11:32:24 AM
though having him in the back of the group means he's putting in that extra bit of effort


AND TD BABY, YESSSSSS
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies (Tour de France, brehs)
Post by: BisMarckie on July 25, 2018, 11:38:20 AM
Well I guess Thomas is the de facton captain now. :trumps
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies (Tour de France, brehs)
Post by: TEEEPO on July 25, 2018, 11:38:53 AM
hopefully quintana is back to his 2015 form with two more mountain stages following today
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies (Tour de France, brehs)
Post by: TEEEPO on July 25, 2018, 11:42:05 AM
overall a great stage that would've been better without the sky train. miss u porte and nibali

at one point it was 7 riders, 4 of which were sky
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies (Tour de France, brehs)
Post by: TEEEPO on July 25, 2018, 11:46:28 AM

oh, tomorrow is a flat recovery stage  :fbm
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies (Tour de France, brehs)
Post by: Kara on July 25, 2018, 12:16:18 PM

oh, tomorrow is a flat recovery stage  :fbm

What do you think this is, the Vuelta!
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies (Tour de France, brehs)
Post by: TEEEPO on July 25, 2018, 12:19:50 PM
yes :fbm
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies (Tour de France, brehs)
Post by: TEEEPO on July 25, 2018, 03:22:34 PM
https://www.instagram.com/p/BlqiNvvjSyD/?taken-by=petosagan

he made it :punch :clap
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies (Tour de France, brehs)
Post by: TEEEPO on July 25, 2018, 05:36:21 PM
https://www.instagram.com/p/Blpp8mdgmvx/?hl=en

all the injuries indured during this year's tdf really puts all the diving during the world cup in perspective, no?

adrenaline is a hell of a drug  :pimp
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies (Tour de France, brehs)
Post by: VomKriege on July 25, 2018, 05:38:20 PM
Sprinter drama !

(https://i.imgur.com/xvlvGNV.jpg)

Démare has a bit of reputation of having one arm longer than the other after grabbing a tad too long to the team car... He could also have been pushed uphill by spectators (Armstrong recounted one such occurrence of Cippo passing a Giro mountain thanks to numerous pushes...), as speculated by some. Démare say commissioners were all around him the whole way (had the broom wagon on his ass)... Rasmussen also barged in on Twitter because of course he did.
Apparently the data was approximated (GPS tracking is not pinpoint yet) and Démare didn't climb as fast as Greipel thought.
:yeshrug

It's been a miserable Tour for FDJ (can't help that Pinot couldn't race) regardless. I'm not sure they're in shape to win the stage tomorrow or force a sprint and I wouldn't give much of a chance to Démare winning on the Champs...

Also Froome was apparently shoved down by a policeman (mistaking him for an amateur, the race was still going for the last riders it seems) while riding down post stage.

All in all it's been a petty Tour. :fbm
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies (Tour de France, brehs)
Post by: TEEEPO on July 25, 2018, 09:03:48 PM

Also Froome was apparently shoved down by a policeman (mistaking him for an amateur, the race was still going for the last riders it seems) while riding down post stage.

All in all it's been a petty Tour. :fbm

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Di9nKPJWwAIcoUJ.jpg)
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies (Tour de France, brehs)
Post by: TEEEPO on July 26, 2018, 11:04:19 PM
will lotto jumbo and movistar attack or be content with roglic and quintana finishing in the top 5? neither have secured a podium finish so i expect some drama but with what was essentially a rest day, i can't imagine anything breaking apart the sky train short of thomas cracking :'(

my personal hope is that both teams go all fucking out along with dumoloin but with quickstep having yet to secure funding from a new sponsor despite being well, fucking quickstep, those podium/top10 finishes are worth their weight in gold.

this sport is so frustrating at times.



miss you contador :'(
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies (Tour de France, brehs)
Post by: Kara on July 27, 2018, 12:20:26 AM
https://www.instagram.com/p/Blpp8mdgmvx/?hl=en

all the injuries indured during this year's tdf really puts all the diving during the world cup in perspective, no?

When I met John Degenkolb I thought to myself, "You're this small? But you're such a badass! ???"
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies (Tour de France, brehs)
Post by: VomKriege on July 27, 2018, 02:42:27 AM
Fair play to Démare, he proved me wrong.

I guess the white jersey will be decided today. Latour has 6mn on Martin, 8 on Bernal. If he doesn't crack...
Barguil will attack I guess. Dan Martin too.
Bardet and Landa would need to as well but I don't see why they would suddenly be better than everyone after being an octave down the best riders for two weeks.

As for Roglic he only has 15 seconds or so to gap, he'll attack as late as possible.
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies (Tour de France, brehs)
Post by: VomKriege on July 27, 2018, 05:43:17 AM
https://www.instagram.com/p/Blpp8mdgmvx/?hl=en

all the injuries indured during this year's tdf really puts all the diving during the world cup in perspective, no?

When I met John Degenkolb I thought to myself, "You're this small? But you're such a badass! ???"

It's less flagrant when watching the race but the picture of Froome facing the gendarme also highlight just how thin riders are...
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies (Tour de France, brehs)
Post by: VomKriege on July 27, 2018, 08:27:27 AM
Sagan is struggling something fierce. Might not get to Paris.
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies (Tour de France, brehs)
Post by: TEEEPO on July 27, 2018, 10:13:02 AM
sagan has made it to the sprinter group

is it just me or is sky riding scared with dumoulin? his mere presence has them shook



and go landa!!
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies (Tour de France, brehs)
Post by: TEEEPO on July 27, 2018, 10:56:22 AM
 :gddr5
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies (Tour de France, brehs)
Post by: VomKriege on July 27, 2018, 11:03:03 AM
I know it's pointless because the stage is not done in a vacuum and things unfold in relation to standings and the end of the race approaching... But it's a pity not all stages are like this.
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies (Tour de France, brehs)
Post by: TEEEPO on July 27, 2018, 11:04:39 AM
 :gddr5
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies (Tour de France, brehs)
Post by: TEEEPO on July 27, 2018, 11:05:09 AM
still 30km left!!!

holy shit
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies (Tour de France, brehs)
Post by: Kara on July 27, 2018, 11:28:06 AM
Dawaj Rafal!
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies (Tour de France, brehs)
Post by: Kara on July 27, 2018, 11:50:21 AM
Great ride by Primoz. He had a third lung today.

It looked like Zakarin's brakes started to give way at the end of the stage before he fell off the back. Not a great look for the only SRAM team.

Time trial is going to be great with Primoz in the top 3 and Froome nipping at his heels. 
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies (Tour de France, brehs)
Post by: team filler on July 28, 2018, 02:49:45 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rgo-yEaXDzA
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies (Tour de France, brehs)
Post by: VomKriege on July 28, 2018, 03:14:35 AM
Froome apparently cheered yesterday on the podium, for the first time...

As the Tour closes with Bardet in a somewhat disappointing place, inevitably pops up the debate on his palmarčs and his Tour centric seasons. He has a decent record in Classics and Monuments (I read he managed at least a top 20 on all of them) and it feels a bit of a waste to cage him in the TDF which he may never win instead of taking shots at slightly more accessible races.

Maybe, like some other French riders, it would take a move to a foreign team to free him a bit...
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies (Tour de France, brehs)
Post by: VomKriege on July 28, 2018, 03:45:23 AM
One article highlighting some of the doubts I had with the idea of revenue sharing in cycling...

http://inrng.com/2014/01/problem-revenue-sharing/
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies (Tour de France, brehs)
Post by: TEEEPO on July 28, 2018, 04:20:59 AM
It looked like Zakarin's brakes started to give way at the end of the stage before he fell off the back. Not a great look for the only SRAM team.

zakarin is such a shit descender though. it was more likely a flat spot causesd by the way he was skidding around the corners

he also did the gc group a favor by going in the back... even the Eurosport commentators were mentioning how he needed to go in the back before he causes an accident


just imagine yesterday's stage if we had porte and especially nibali  :'(
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies (Tour de France, brehs)
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on July 28, 2018, 05:32:39 AM
Is the tour still a thing? Serious question, how is viewership nowadays? Only hearing bar things about this years Tour.
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies (Tour de France, brehs)
Post by: VomKriege on July 28, 2018, 06:54:49 AM
Is the tour still a thing? Serious question, how is viewership nowadays? Only hearing bar things about this years Tour.

Viewership a bit down this year though it might by just context with the world cup. Still as big as ever.
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies (Tour de France, brehs)
Post by: VomKriege on July 28, 2018, 07:49:09 AM
I've mostly followed the Tour on radio, old style but my favourites this year :

Dan Martin, again. Never stop not waiting to attack.
Majka, Kruijswijk, Van Avermaet for animating the race.
Bernal sounds like a future monster.
A mention for Chavanel on his 18th and last Tour.

Letdowns : Landa, I expected more of him than just try his hand at one stage. Bardet though apart from winning it he would never live up to his two podiums. Barguil, hard to deny he seems to waste his potential by being so obtuse to modern training. Getting cosy in a middling French squad is not the good idea.

Teams I liked : Lotto Jumbo, most improved since the last Tour, they now look like a very strong outfit. Quick Step, more influential than you would expect in a GT.

Teams flops : Lotto Soudal, invisible the whole time bar for the brave attempts by De Gendt. Barhain-Merida had a pretty poor showing too though heightened by Nibali pulling out. Katusha.
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies (Tour de France, brehs)
Post by: TEEEPO on July 28, 2018, 11:03:39 AM
 :doge
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies (Tour de France, brehs)
Post by: VomKriege on July 28, 2018, 11:31:24 AM
:doge

Team Sky riders finish 2, 3, 4 of the ITT  :goty2 (+ 14, 17 and 25 with Luke Rowe as the only outlier in 112th place)
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies (Tour de France, brehs)
Post by: Kara on July 28, 2018, 11:52:06 AM
It looked like Zakarin's brakes started to give way at the end of the stage before he fell off the back. Not a great look for the only SRAM team.

zakarin is such a shit descender though. it was more likely a flat spot causesd by the way he was skidding around the corners

he also did the gc group a favor by going in the back... even the Eurosport commentators were mentioning how he needed to go in the back before he causes an accident

I think he's kind of shit in general once you factor in doping, but the moment I'm thinking of happened in the relative flat of a town / village / whatever they're called and then he just faded away afterwards. Could have just been nerves (he almost ate the tarmac when the rear wheel locked up) or his lack of skill, you're right.
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies (Tour de France, brehs)
Post by: Kara on July 28, 2018, 12:17:47 PM
It's baloney that Froome is going to podium despite never doing domestique duties. Great time trial though, everyone seemed to have written him off.

To add to my earlier point about sponsorship being too insular and exacerbating the economic problems of the sport: Team BMC was underwritten for awhile by the owner of BMC Switzerland who died this year and the new leadership at the company signaled they had no interest in continuing the arrangement because it hadn't made business sense in a long time. This lead to the following shuffle of bike (and title) sponsors: Giant is going to be a (possibly the only!) title sponsor for Team BMC next season and Cervelo is going to be a title sponsor for Team Sunweb next season. At a certain level I understand why Giant would want to sponsor a "super" team, but Team BMC is "American" (they get tons of TV time here) and Giant doesn't need any help in the American market. Cervelo is owned by a Dutch conglomerate and that ownership jumped at the chance to sponsor Team Sunweb because it has the best Dutch rider in the sport on it. (Sorry, Kruijswijk.) This all has a certain logic to it, but it's not going to reverse the trend that began after Lance.
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies (Tour de France, brehs)
Post by: VomKriege on July 28, 2018, 12:41:11 PM
I never looked into it but is there a reason why lotteries were so enamored with cycling (Lotto BE, Lotto NL, FDJ, ONCE... Probably missing a couple earlier ones, Italians maybe) ? My guess is probably due to laws surrounding national owned lotteries limiting the outlets they could invest in... Though I heard Lotto NL and FDJ are phasing out as sponsors soon, too.

It never looked very healthy on the economic front, much less so with billionaires & petrostates picking up the burden of "saving" World Tour teams in the last decade or so.
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies (Tour de France, brehs)
Post by: Kara on July 28, 2018, 01:00:13 PM
Fandom in Europe skews more proletarian than it does in la anglophonie so you see more proletarian sponsors like lotteries, home improvement (Quick-Step, Hansgrohe), payday lenders (Cofidis), utilities (Movistar, Direct Énergie), or housewares (BORA) for European teams.

Contrast that with Mitchelton (wine), Drapac (money laundering real estate investment), Sky (pay-TV), and bike companies for the Anglosphere.

Personally I don't care for lotteries being able to advertise at all, let alone in the sport, but if Cofidis and the Kingdom of Bahrain can sponsor in the sport without issue I know that's wishful thinking.
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies (Tour de France, brehs)
Post by: VomKriege on July 28, 2018, 03:13:17 PM
Yeah The Ringer touched on that (the fandom being more blue collar). Orieca was a mining company, too.

With regards to the situation at QuickStep, someone mentioned that sponsoring this outfit (main) for a Belgian company would probably be on the same order of magnitude than one of the major teams in the local football league. The Tour probably has bigger international appeal but for some of those sponsors it's not really here or there (though Belgium is probably one of the places where you'll get a ton of domestic coverage too). Their new secondary sponsor, Maes breweries, is not a brand that get exported AFAIK.
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies (Tour de France, brehs)
Post by: VomKriege on July 29, 2018, 07:10:53 PM
It's also the hot season for new contracts and the rumor mill is that Sky would be interested in Soler and Pinot :doge Soler sounds rational because he has the profile they love and is already a bit of a luxury domestique with prospect of becoming a good GT contender.

Movistar is bleeding support riders, with some speculation that Quintana is loathed by most of his teammates. Though really in truth it's probably the money and the success that lures so many to Sky : they also offered a lucrative 5 year contract to Evenepoel which is supposedly the next Belgian big thing but he turned it down for QuickStep. I would guess because he'll have more freedom from the get go to chase wins in one day races if he's strong enough or because he's more interested in Classics than GT.
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies (Tour de France, brehs)
Post by: Kara on August 01, 2018, 11:47:51 AM
http://twitter.com/TeamDEN_fr/status/1024661055421734913

 :money
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies (Tour de France, brehs)
Post by: VomKriege on August 09, 2018, 01:08:04 AM
Soler to stay at Movistar.

Jan Ullrich arrested in Mallorca for trying to break in Til Schweiger house to attend a party he wasn't invited to. Ullrich has not been in a good place for many years and is a bit of a pariah in Germany.

Bernal and Latour probably out for the remainder of the season and Landa unsure to attend the Vuelta because of an horrific crash at San Sebastian. Alaphilippe won the race.
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies (Tour de France, brehs)
Post by: VomKriege on August 10, 2018, 07:08:39 AM
And Ullrich was arrested again in Frankfurt after hitting, under the influence of drugs, a prostitute. He flew back home to enter rehab...
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies (Tour de France, brehs)
Post by: TEEEPO on August 20, 2018, 05:39:52 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/0fmz38E.jpg)

:ohyeah
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies (Tour de France, brehs)
Post by: BisMarckie on August 20, 2018, 06:16:21 PM
I went for a 85km ride yesterday at a very leisurely pace and yet I am still sore. I should do this more often. :doge
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies (Tour de France, brehs)
Post by: TEEEPO on August 20, 2018, 06:17:10 PM
 :respect
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies (Tour de France, brehs)
Post by: BisMarckie on August 20, 2018, 06:30:05 PM
I want to go roughly the same distance next week but with a slightly more difficult profile.

(https://abload.de/img/indexokcak.png)

Pray for me.  :doge


Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies (Tour de France, brehs)
Post by: TEEEPO on August 24, 2018, 03:52:41 PM
 :gddr5
La Vuelta a Espańa
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies (Tour de France, brehs)
Post by: BisMarckie on August 28, 2018, 04:33:21 PM
I managed to do my 90 km route. Only managed a little over 20km/h on average though, but to be fair, I had to go uphill basically all the time. :doge
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies (Tour de France, brehs)
Post by: TEEEPO on September 09, 2018, 12:12:56 PM
i might be alone in watching today's stage but what a fucking race
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies (Tour de France, brehs)
Post by: TEEEPO on October 05, 2018, 04:22:16 PM
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1b/20180930_UCI_Road_World_Championships_Innsbruck_Men_Elite_Road_Race_Valverde_wins_850_2058.jpg)

this is everything
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies
Post by: Kara on October 05, 2018, 04:33:19 PM
There's been a lot of nasty press here with his win, which I can understand, but Sagan is a creep and everyone here loves him because he lip syncs Grease or whatever.

Wish Bardet could have won, on a selfish note. He's so close to really getting that marquee palmarčs.
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies
Post by: VomKriege on March 22, 2019, 12:27:24 PM
Team Sky to become Team Ineos, possibly with even more budget.
Direct Énergie rumored to get a sponsorship from French Big Oil company Total.

Is this green washing ?

Will Astana change names to reflect the rechristened city denomination ?
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies
Post by: VomKriege on May 18, 2019, 03:26:02 AM
Dumoulin out of the Giro, for some Dutch journalists possibly a blessing in disguise for his upcoming Tour performance. Otherwise all favorites are there and nicely bunched together in the GC after this first week. Roglic is the tentative front runner but lost a top clmbing domestique IIRC. Same for Nibali. Consensus is that Astana has the strongest team as a whole.

Lastly, rumors / speculations that Bernal's injury, which was supposed to lead Ineos (ex-Team Sky) in Italy, was purely diplomatic in order to have him on the Tour.
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies
Post by: Kara on May 18, 2019, 10:35:23 AM
Team Sky to become Team Ineos, possibly with even more budget.
Direct Énergie rumored to get a sponsorship from French Big Oil company Total.

Is this green washing ?

I'm glad les boys are on the state oil company gravy train now. Y'all did it. :tocry

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Whenever their Twitter account posts something I still don't recognize the uniform. :lol
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Having a chemical conglomerate feels like a moral upgrade over being in Murdoch's bosom but probably isn't.
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies
Post by: VomKriege on May 19, 2019, 04:36:43 AM
There's talk of BIG MONEY and BIG TRANSFERS around with Total now in the fray, latest rumors are Kristoff and Alaphilippe. I'm a little concerned that we'll see once more a top French rider suddenly plateau and underperform after he gets his top contract with a French team. I don't know if it's complacency, management issues, skewed perception or something else but it never really pans out optimally.
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies
Post by: VomKriege on May 23, 2019, 03:48:30 AM
Démare had his first win of the season on the Giro, in a stage where most of the contenders were involved in a crash in the last km.  :-\
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies
Post by: Kara on May 23, 2019, 04:18:17 AM
There's talk of BIG MONEY and BIG TRANSFERS around with Total now in the fray, latest rumors are Kristoff and Alaphilippe. I'm a little concerned that we'll see once more a top French rider suddenly plateau and underperform after he gets his top contract with a French team. I don't know if it's complacency, management issues, skewed perception or something else but it never really pans out optimally.

The stereotype outside France is that the training there is 20 years behind the times. (Bardet having to travel to Switzerland to get a power meter is the oft mentioned anecdote.) No idea if that's true or not, but I like to think it is a little (because I like that more than Sky marginal doping baloney).
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies
Post by: VomKriege on May 23, 2019, 04:50:08 AM
Yeah, I wouldn't want to be a stereotypical baguette holding snob making a gallant but hopeless stand against doping but considering what "top of the line training regime" entailed in the last three decades...

Another glaring unavoidable issue is that the Tour is really the only metric that counts, no matter how absurd. I'm not sure Alaphilippe would benefit from being forced to plan his season around that and be judged by his performance there or his "inability" to be a contender.

Oh well... Hopefully we can avoid a Team Ineos parade.
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies
Post by: VomKriege on May 23, 2019, 05:08:44 AM
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/campenaerts-hits-back-at-wiggins-suggestion-that-he-should-swap-teams/ (http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/campenaerts-hits-back-at-wiggins-suggestion-that-he-should-swap-teams/)

:lol :dead

Daniel Friebe on the Cycling Podcast also expressed his belief, following the signing of new (British IIRC) staff that Barhain-Merida will probably downsize the remains of its Italian core.
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies
Post by: VomKriege on May 24, 2019, 10:10:47 AM
Roglic as the top GC contender of the Giro, a new pink jersey leader and a Barhain staff member investigated by the UCI for links to the doping doctor at the center of the recent Austrian scandal... Slovenia has really boomed at the top of the cycling game yesterday.
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies
Post by: VomKriege on May 24, 2019, 05:19:29 PM
After half a Giro of heightened criticism at how flat the race was (up to the point that some riders and journalists were concerned that it actually messed with the form and conditioning of favorites), fireworks finally started for good today. S.Yates was the biggest loser, he sorta bonked. Lopes had a bad day too though a mechanical didn't help. Zakarin (who won the stage), Mollema, Carapaz and Landa were the biggest winners and took back time to Roglic. Nibali followed in the Slovenian wheel without too much issue. A lot of GC riders apparently look spent so who knows if they'll be able to keep up but it is shaping up well for an exciting finale.

Edit : And Nibali is trying really hard to psych out Roglic by moaning incessantly about his passivity.
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies
Post by: VomKriege on May 24, 2019, 05:55:51 PM
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If Froome were Kenyan-Kenyan and named something like Chris Frumchotui, he would've been the darling of this forum for at least a couple of years.

:lol

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http://forum.cyclingnews.com/viewtopic.php?p=2356100#p2356100 (http://forum.cyclingnews.com/viewtopic.php?p=2356100#p2356100)
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies
Post by: BisMarckie on May 24, 2019, 06:31:10 PM
The culture wars reached cycling. :noooo

Probably the last place where I expected a Ben Shapiro reference.  :doge
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies
Post by: VomKriege on May 24, 2019, 06:51:24 PM
I took a read at The Clinic over there and was mildly surprised to see the motor doping thread has been, for all intents and purposes, dead since last Tour after being all the craze for a couple of years. I guess the lack of any actual scrap to latch to or the lack of more bold claims by dubious insiders killed it somewhat.

Not sure I'm too sad about it though it's bound to happen in major pro races at one point.
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies
Post by: VomKriege on May 25, 2019, 03:18:11 PM
Great ride by Carapaz today to take the pink jersey. The favorites group was a bit lightheaded in giving too much leash (or unable to pursue), it's not clear Roglic or Nibali are in total control here, Roglic seemed weirdly unconcerned on the finish line as Nibali was sprinting for bonus seconds... As someone on the CN forums said Roglic's confidence is either 0% or 100% judging on how the stage was raced. Yates had a better day, so did Lopes (pretty weak attacks tho), Majka kept up, Zakarin sunk and Landa might be expected to be a superdom... Again. :lol
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies
Post by: VomKriege on May 26, 2019, 04:11:01 AM
Also Colombian team Manzana Postobon was dissolved afterone too many doping case involving its riders.
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies
Post by: VomKriege on May 27, 2019, 03:41:55 AM
Is there many other sports where a coach having to take a piss will serve extensive media coverage as a major game fact ? :lol

Roglic had a bad Sunday, suffering a mechanical in the last stretch of the stage and being forced to change bikes with his teammate Tolhoek because the team car was right at this moment stopped so that the DS could answer the call of nature. It was impossible to swap bikes beyond that because the racing went hectic upfront and Roglic crashed as he was trying to bridge the gap, relinquishing 40 second to Carapaz and Nibali.

There's speculation that Roglic picked form too early and is starting to fade. It's also clear he is impaired by the lack of support as his domestiques are not quite up to the task.
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies
Post by: VomKriege on May 28, 2019, 04:49:37 AM
Interesting bit of trivia in today's Cycling Podcast : Valerio Conti, who was on top of GC several days earlier in that Giro, is the first rider born in Rome to wear the pink jersey. Danilo di Luca in 2007 was the first "southern" born Giro winner (if Abruzzes counts as southern), since then joined by Sicilian born Vincenzo Nibali.
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies
Post by: VomKriege on May 28, 2019, 03:11:51 PM
Another good eventful stage despite the backup route but the gaps weren't as dramatic as they could have been ultimately. Lopez bonked at the end and lost a handful of seconds in the last kilometers, it's hard to imagine he can contend despite a very strong show of force by Astana. At this point Carapaz or Nibali look like the most probable winners, especially since they have the strongest teams besides the Kazakhs on top of being the strongest riders.

Ciccone took the stage in flamboyant fashion as the strongest man of a major breakaway that went up the road a few kilometers in.

Edit : Lopez had apparently the fastest climb on the Mortirolo

http://www.climbing-records.com/2019/05/migul-angel-lopez-fastest-on-mortirolo.html?m=1 (http://www.climbing-records.com/2019/05/migul-angel-lopez-fastest-on-mortirolo.html?m=1)
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies
Post by: Kara on May 28, 2019, 09:57:59 PM
VK, just wanted to say that while I don't care for the Giro I'm really appreciating the updates. :respect
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies
Post by: VomKriege on May 29, 2019, 04:16:32 AM
VK, just wanted to say that while I don't care for the Giro I'm really appreciating the updates. :respect

 :preach I usually only get into a fever for the Tour but things lined up well this year with the Giro being broadcasted live, free and easily streamable plus my planning allowing it to have stages as background noise. It is definitely a pleasing race to follow as no team is so ridiculously strong they can hammer out opposition just by tempo.

Carapaz is going to Team Ineos and that's the worst kept secret it seems. It made the rounds yesterday that he was approached by another team. He's managed by an agent who has many South American riders and over half a dozen clients at Ineos. That agent had a meeting a few days ago with Dave Brailsford and a famous talent scout specialized in South America.
It's not confirmed but it's all been reported as direct as it could be short of making an affirmative statement.

At any rate, Movistar has a whole swath of riders with contracts ending soon and probably couldn't afford to keep a Giro-winning Carapaz on top of Valverde, Landa and Quintana. The Spanish team is notoriously cagey about any transfer talk but it's already been rumoured that Quintana may have avenues elsewhere (Arkea Samsic). Valverde expected to stay put, because he's as much family / prop that you could be for a star rider. As for everyone's favourite cycling Iago, Landa, who knows what dark scheme he's thinking of anyway.

La Gazzetta Dello Sport got dragged a bit for publishing an article insinuating some very dark speculation after Roglic's discarded bike was nowhere to be found on Jumbo Visma's car following the stage he had a mechanical in and took Tolhoek's one. He himself was offered a functional bicycle by Movistar second car, so that's where the missing contraption was but that only became clear the following day.
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies
Post by: VomKriege on May 29, 2019, 06:55:08 AM
Also quite a shock to see Movistar tactics™ being effective.
They still have time to jinx it tho.
They're leading the team classification (again) so there's that.
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies
Post by: VomKriege on May 30, 2019, 02:44:33 AM
Frenchman Nans Peters won the bike race yesterday, which got the TV commentators up to cringy heights which in turn rolled my eyes at the back of the skull. But the AG2R rider was indeed the strongest of a chaotic breakaway despite being composed of strong raiders like Jungels (who had a bit of a relative stinker again... Bypassing classics for the Giro wasn't the best idea), Formolo or De Gendt. Peters extracted in the final kilometers and quickly put a minute he never lost. Chaves chased and finished second : He's not back to his rising star status of a couple of years back but that's encouraging.
First AG2R stage win on the Giro since 2011 IIRC. They had a meager year so far, it's their first World Tour success this season.

Landa squeezed an attack just before the finish and he took 19 seconds to Nibali (who also lost 7" to Carapaz). Baby gains but it's weird Nibali couldn't follow. Maybe a day without and he's lucky there was no earlier attacks.

Today supposedly a stage for the last two remaining sprinters, Ackermann and Démare, for the best sprinter jersey.

On the transfer front, Carapaz's agent is adamant that several offers are/were on the table including Arkea Samsic (again !) but common wisdom is that the move to Ineos is done and settled. Ineos would also keep all its high profile riders next season (Froome, Thomas, Kwiat, Bernal).
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies
Post by: VomKriege on May 30, 2019, 10:07:11 AM
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What just happened? Somebody destroyed a bike in front of break:D

I was only listening to RAI coverage and they were talking about some crazy guy throwing stuff.
I could not see what happened, fortunately nobody got hurt.

EDIT: it has just been reported by RAI that, apparently, he was a bit inebriated and wanted to participate in today's stage, he was obbiously denied that, so he lost his marbles

Wiggins is wild

http://forum.cyclingnews.com/viewtopic.php?p=2360638#p2360638 (http://forum.cyclingnews.com/viewtopic.php?p=2360638#p2360638)
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies
Post by: VomKriege on May 30, 2019, 11:55:23 AM
What the fuck Groupama-FDJ :hhh  :snoop

After letting a three man break forward -a guarantee that Ackermann wouldn't be able to take the sprint jersey from Démare- that Bora (and Israel Cycling + Quick Step) didn't chase efficiently they decided to suddenly roll it back with 2km left for a bunch sprint just at the moment the break seemed it would make it on knife's edge (It sort of did, Cima won narrowly). Ackermann takes second place, Démare is 7th or 8th and lose the sprinting jersey, most definitely for good.

What a cock up, Jesus.

The Directeur Sportif was as surprised and pissed as anyone behind the screen. The strategy this morning was to let a break take the stage to protect the jersey, and to sprint defensively and let Bora take responsibility if need be so one of the riders (Démare himself or a road captain) fucked that up.
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies
Post by: VomKriege on May 31, 2019, 03:56:36 AM
It would seem that the Giro Race Radio was inaccurate in giving gaps yesterday, which may account for some of the tactics being off pace, the bunch thought the breakaway was closer for a lot of the final stretch.

No ITT in the upcoming Tour. Watch Team Ineos savage the race and (French) climbers anyway.

Edit : Misunderstood, there's one short ITT with hills.
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies
Post by: VomKriege on May 31, 2019, 06:26:38 AM
Kara on blast notice

https://www.cyclingweekly.com/news/ultimately-cyclists-just-narcissists-says-tv-broadcaster-psychotherapist-400429
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies
Post by: VomKriege on May 31, 2019, 11:40:55 AM
Esteban Chaves winning the stage like a boss.  :mods
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies
Post by: TEEEPO on May 31, 2019, 05:45:36 PM
esteban chaves parents :dead
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies
Post by: VomKriege on May 31, 2019, 05:55:20 PM
It's do or die tomorrow with the last stage & mountains before the ITT. Nibali needs to at least take a minute or 90 seconds on Carapaz, others behind him even more. It could happen but Carapaz looked strong throughout.

People already having Monday Morning Directeur Sportif Insights with a debate that Nibali maybe was too focused on Roglic to mark Carapaz who soared to victory in stage 14 with almost two minutes on the Italian. But to be fair, who was really paying attention to Carapaz and considered him a contender ? It seems absurd to say this about a guy who managed to finish fourth in the GC to that race before but it is at least partially true.

Anyway it was a pleasing race to follow because it wasn't strangled by the top teams but at the risk of sounding smug... That's the happy result of lower attractivity and competition. The Tour is a victim of its success in that way.
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies
Post by: BisMarckie on May 31, 2019, 05:56:32 PM
Planned my route for tomorrow. First time riding my bike this year. Gonna take it easy and just ride for around 80km.
 Mostly flat roads, but the weather is going to be nice and I will probably stop for a glass of wine on the way.   8)
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies
Post by: VomKriege on June 01, 2019, 06:42:45 AM
Nibali up to GOB levels of illusion and psyching out opponents : his latest interview for RAI / Gazzetta is about how Landa is the strongest and implying Carapaz shouldn't rely on him today.

Edit : Zakarin in the break, now that's entertainment.
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies
Post by: VomKriege on June 01, 2019, 08:34:06 AM
Monster tempo by Astana in the second of the five climbs today and everything is already down to the big guys. Nibali and Roglic got dropped by Lopez, Landa and Carapaz but bridged back on the descent. There's no denying the latter three looks like the strongest at that point.

Zakarin fumbled in the descent. Sivakov (the Franco-Russian rider as French commentators insist, though to be fair he does consider himself French despite running Russian for next Olympics) is also quite good. Another monster rider in Ineos :/ . Rumors that Lopez may be headed to Ineos, apparently, because I guess the deck is never too stacked in pro sports.
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies
Post by: VomKriege on June 01, 2019, 11:27:50 AM
Rest of the tappa underdelivered a bit but that's often the case for those "ultimate chance to win" stages at the very tail end. After pushing so hard the pace went down enough that most of the big names managed to join back. Crashes and outside circumstances were the most notable thing : Zakarin, Majka and most importantly Lopez crashed... Seemingly because of a spectator for the Colombian, who was pissed enough to slap the guy. He'll maybe get a penalty for that and lost some time on Sivakov, white jersey still in play ? Roglic was pushed by a spectator for long seconds and didn't gesture the guy to stop. The Slovenian couldn't keep up when Landa, Carapaz and Nibali pushed hard in the finish despite throwing his all into it : he basically towed the rest of the GC guys for 2km only to lose single seconds to them still. Carapaz tried to gift Landa the win but Bilbao was the strongest to take his second stage win. But seeing the Maillot Rose working hard at the front was class, not gonna lie.

Landa is on the GC podium but I'd imagine Roglic is expected to claw that back in the ITT tomorrow.
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies
Post by: VomKriege on June 01, 2019, 12:34:16 PM
Roglic slapped with a 10 seconds penalty for that fan push.
Lopez is probably discussed by judges.

Alaphilippe renewed for 2 years at Quick Step
Zakarin rumoured at CCC.

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I think Carapaz just likes grimacing for no reason

Perhaps he trains with Voekler in the offseason?

http://forum.cyclingnews.com/viewtopic.php?p=2361513#p2361513 (http://forum.cyclingnews.com/viewtopic.php?p=2361513#p2361513)

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Scott would have done better with Nieve for GC

http://forum.cyclingnews.com/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=34601&p=2361390&hilit=Nieve#p2361390 (http://forum.cyclingnews.com/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=34601&p=2361390&hilit=Nieve#p2361390)

:dead
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies
Post by: VomKriege on June 02, 2019, 08:52:17 AM
About today's ITT...

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i put 500$ on campenaarts x 1.75, easy money.

YIKES

 :yikes :dead

http://forum.cyclingnews.com/viewtopic.php?p=2361876#p2361876 (http://forum.cyclingnews.com/viewtopic.php?p=2361876#p2361876)
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies
Post by: Potato on June 02, 2019, 09:25:23 AM
Going to ride to work in the morning. First ride for about 4 weeks and it's freezing at the moment. Not looking forward to it, but it needs to be done.
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies
Post by: VomKriege on June 03, 2019, 09:02:56 AM
According to the Gazzetta, Carapaz will go from his current 150k€ / year Movistar contract to a 1,5m€ / year one at Ineos. Movistar goofed up with keeping his salary up to date...

Rumors that Jumbo Visma is interested in Kittel... And that Katusha may fold.

Team Dimension Data is having an annus horribilis.
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies
Post by: VomKriege on June 05, 2019, 07:23:27 AM
Big conservative money rumors :

Dave Brailsford to perhaps be promoted to manage the performance of all the sporting endeavours of Ineos billionaire boss (that include an America's Cup team and perhaps soon the OGC Nice football club).

Rod Ellingworth was earmarked to replace him but he left shortly after the team changed sponsors to Barhain-Merida. Barhain also has a partnership with McLaren now that could get upgraded to a main sponsorship or so it's told.

Michelton-Scott might also get a main or second sponsor from Colombia.

Most of the Giro 2019 top 10 riders will probably not be at the Tour, with Nibali and Roglic now reported hesitant to features. S.Yates on the other might end up doing it to support his brother.

Probably a lot of movement at DQS, like every year, with Alaphilippe moving up the hierarchy they'll probably have the usual brutal turnover imposed by their relatively limited budget. People expect Viviani and Mas to go to richer pastures at the very least
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies
Post by: TEEEPO on June 06, 2019, 12:41:40 AM
i can't let my man vom hanging so i'll share my quick thoughts on the giro, which i was behind on by about a day late for each stage, hence why i was absent during the thread (thanks whoever was ddosing tiz-cycling :maf). on one hand, having an underdog and the first ecuadorian to win a tour is fucking exciting but on the other hand, the cancellation of gavia and an entire stage being rerouted due to the starting town not having the means to host because of funding caused by municipal problems really hampered the latter half. the whole point of the giro is that once the climbing starts, it never stops. but the little bits of racing we saw were hella exciting, so i guess there's that?


and i wasn't aware of the tour's route this year and if nairo doesn't secure a win, or at the very least a podium spot, then his days are numbered. so that leads me to my prediction: this year's tour was designed for the colombians. this one is a bit easier to predict but sagan isn't going to be wearing the green. his season is bothced due to being ill during the critical training block of the program so it's an uphill battle for him until maybe the nationals. he won't be reaching his peak this season
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies
Post by: VomKriege on June 06, 2019, 04:28:37 AM
As I understand it, it's the whole first third or half of the Giro that was redesigned at the last minute because of the Grand Départ town having to be changed. It's also a pity Dumoulin didn't finish, Bernal didn't show up and Roglic lost his doms but that's life.
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies
Post by: TEEEPO on June 12, 2019, 11:11:11 AM
froome is out with a broken femur  :o
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies
Post by: TEEEPO on June 12, 2019, 01:57:57 PM
froome blowing his nose during a descent on a gusty day is the cause of him crashing into a wall at 60kmph. at those speeds, he'd be lucky to only have a broken femur. let's just hope any additional injuries are below the neck

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UPMwjQi1MwA&feature=youtu.be&t=12
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies
Post by: BisMarckie on June 12, 2019, 04:38:58 PM
It‘s easy to hate on Froome and Team Sky in general, but I hope he will be a ble to recover soon.
The tone of the comments to this news has been incredibly vile.
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies
Post by: VomKriege on June 12, 2019, 05:54:12 PM
It‘s easy to hate on Froome and Team Sky in general, but I hope he will be a ble to recover soon.
The tone of the comments to this news has been incredibly vile.

I haven't seen the comments but I can imagine. It's a brutal injury, not something to cheer on. Without getting all fair play up this bitch, I'd rather see the performers I don't like get beaten on the field.
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies
Post by: VomKriege on June 18, 2019, 01:14:45 PM
G.Thomas fell and had to forfeit his Tour de Suisse participation. He needs to pass exams to see if he'll race the TdF.
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies
Post by: TEEEPO on June 21, 2019, 12:09:58 PM
https://cyclingtips.com/2019/06/the-weekly-spin-putting-chris-froome-crash-conspiracy-theories-into-context/

really makes you think  :whatisthis
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies
Post by: VomKriege on July 01, 2019, 03:09:32 AM
Warren Barguil will wear the Tricolore jersey on the Tour.
 :checkit
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies
Post by: VomKriege on July 07, 2019, 05:04:14 PM
Fuglsang crashing on first stage.  :goty2
FDJ going a great TTT.  :checkit
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies (Tour de France, brehs)
Post by: TEEEPO on July 12, 2019, 01:44:17 AM
carapaz to join ineos in 2020
 :shaking
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies (Tour de France, brehs)
Post by: Kara on July 12, 2019, 01:43:44 PM
Pinot is top 10? :gladbron
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies (Tour de France, brehs)
Post by: TEEEPO on July 14, 2019, 02:34:29 AM
https://twitter.com/ammattipyoraily/status/1150078127856652288

what a fucking stage
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies (Tour de France, brehs)
Post by: Kara on July 14, 2019, 02:43:37 AM
 :mindblown

Alaphilippe in first and Pinot in third. :checkit
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies (Tour de France, brehs)
Post by: VomKriege on July 15, 2019, 01:14:47 AM
De Gendt get a win, Lotto Soudal has a good Tour so far with Wellens too, Quick Step obviously delighted too (maybe that Merckx spirit floating), French guy in yellow on the 14th of July, another one possibly contending for GC virtually ahead... Hopefully Bardet and Barguil can light some fireworks in high mountains.

Don't know what lies ahead but at least for once people cannot complain the first week was a bore ? Though maybe has a little to do with Froome and Dumoulin not starting.
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies (Tour de France, brehs)
Post by: TEEEPO on July 17, 2019, 06:20:53 PM
pinot and the rest of the french gc contenders potentially lost the tour due to an attack initiated by alaphilippe on what was supposed to be a relatively boring sprint stage :lol you can't make this shit up
 
and i'm very happy for ewan's first tour stage win
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies (Tour de France, brehs)
Post by: TEEEPO on July 18, 2019, 07:46:58 PM
rohan dennis dropping out the day before the ITT is quite bizarre given that he was the favorite to win the stage  ???
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies (Tour de France, brehs)
Post by: VomKriege on July 20, 2019, 12:18:29 PM
After a week/month/year/years of musings about Alaphilippe clearly not being a Tour winner, he's now 2mn ahead after the ITT, some real climbs and in the last third of the race.

 :whatsthedeal :larry

I don't want to be that guy but it's gonna be hard not to find it suspect if he wins it.
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies (Tour de France, brehs)
Post by: BisMarckie on July 20, 2019, 06:03:42 PM
Buchmann has been a really pleasant surprise. Probably the first German since Ullrich and Klöden who can become a serious gc contender.

We don’t like to talk too much about Ullrich and Klöden nowadays.  :doge
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies (Tour de France, brehs)
Post by: BisMarckie on July 20, 2019, 06:05:53 PM
With athletes now using microdosing to circumvent anti doping legislation, I am under no illusion that any sport is clean. :trumps
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies (Tour de France, brehs)
Post by: TEEEPO on July 21, 2019, 01:39:38 AM
supposedly the same lab that figured out how to test for good ol fashion blood doping has found a foolproof way to test for micro doping but you know, half-lifes and testing protocols that basically favor the illusion of a clean peloton and all

i can't lie, i have serious doubts on a 32 year old alaphilippe coming to gc form but whatever, allez allez allez!
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies (Tour de France, brehs)
Post by: Kara on July 21, 2019, 02:31:00 AM
Unlike Froome and Thomas he doesn't exactly have a general classification team around him, either. (Though it's not like the team he's on isn't very rich and very successful.)

He has sooooome palmares so I'm not as pissy about his run this year as I have been about Sky runs in prior years, but I'm also biased because he saved me from a Peter Sagan overall victory in the Tour of California.
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies (Tour de France, brehs)
Post by: TEEEPO on July 21, 2019, 02:54:17 AM
imagine, winning three classics and a tour in a single year

i still think he's going to pull a simon yates
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies (Tour de France, brehs)
Post by: TEEEPO on July 21, 2019, 10:53:55 AM
looks like this is 51's race to win
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies (Tour de France, brehs)
Post by: VomKriege on July 21, 2019, 05:19:27 PM
looks like this is 51's race to win

He wanna be the first to Paris to see them aliens.
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies (Tour de France, brehs)
Post by: TEEEPO on July 24, 2019, 10:25:33 PM
cool, two of riders that don't support three of the non-french hopefuls are suspended

nope, there's nothing suspicious about it
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies (Tour de France, brehs)
Post by: TEEEPO on July 25, 2019, 09:21:46 AM
calling this stage amazing thus far is an understatement
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies (Tour de France, brehs)
Post by: TEEEPO on July 25, 2019, 10:41:47 AM
 :mindblown
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies (Tour de France, brehs)
Post by: TEEEPO on July 25, 2019, 10:50:50 AM
gerriat vs bernal  :mindblown

quintana finishing the ascent with 6" over the gc group :mindblown:

yellow cracking :mindblown:
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies (Tour de France, brehs)
Post by: TEEEPO on July 25, 2019, 10:57:01 AM
alaphilippe caught back up on the descent :mindblown:
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies (Tour de France, brehs)
Post by: TEEEPO on July 25, 2019, 10:58:13 AM
and now alaphilippe is going past the group over the descent :mindblown:
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies (Tour de France, brehs)
Post by: TEEEPO on July 25, 2019, 11:03:08 AM
and now it's raining on the descent :mindblown:
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies (Tour de France, brehs)
Post by: Kara on July 25, 2019, 11:13:12 AM
 :lol
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies (Tour de France, brehs)
Post by: BisMarckie on July 25, 2019, 11:18:50 AM
Buchmann held his own despite being isolated early. :obama

Hope he will attack tomorrow, top 3 finish would be awesome for him.
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies (Tour de France, brehs)
Post by: TEEEPO on July 25, 2019, 11:19:36 AM
the best part was when movistar attacked when quintana was well in the breakaway, taking about 3 mins from him. i will always be baffled by movistar's tour tactics but at least this will surely create a lot of internal drama

what a tour
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies (Tour de France, brehs)
Post by: VomKriege on July 25, 2019, 12:33:35 PM
Bardet getting the polka jersey. That would be a decent consolation price.
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies (Tour de France, brehs)
Post by: Kara on July 25, 2019, 03:26:52 PM
Speaking of Bardet, was Alaphilippe's descent on par with Bardet's in 2015 (I want to say)? That's one of my favorite present day Tour moments.
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies (Tour de France, brehs)
Post by: TEEEPO on July 26, 2019, 09:24:52 AM
pinot  :fbm

https://streamable.com/gciq9
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies (Tour de France, brehs)
Post by: TEEEPO on July 26, 2019, 10:45:46 AM
WHAT THE FUCK
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies (Tour de France, brehs)
Post by: BisMarckie on July 26, 2019, 10:51:19 AM
Sucks for Buchmann, but that weather is crazy. 36 degrees celsius right now in the valley and there is ice on the road in Tignes
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies (Tour de France, brehs)
Post by: Mr Gilhaney on July 26, 2019, 11:06:59 AM
i would like to have seen them try tbh

https://twitter.com/joscelinryan/status/1154764343910838272
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies (Tour de France, brehs)
Post by: TEEEPO on July 26, 2019, 04:01:25 PM
WHAT THE FUCK

https://www.cyclingweekly.com/news/racing/tour-de-france/difficult-weather-forces-tour-de-france-shorten-stage-20-just-59km-432930

Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies (Tour de France, brehs)
Post by: TEEEPO on July 26, 2019, 04:05:15 PM
though not surprised, landsides are going to become the new norm in higher elevations due to global warming. permafrost is what keeps the slopes intact, or were in the case of the alps. i knew this was the inevitable but fuck, i didn't expect it to happen this fucking soon. fuck this gay earth
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies (Tour de France, brehs)
Post by: VomKriege on July 26, 2019, 04:05:23 PM
WHAT THE FUCK

https://www.cyclingweekly.com/news/racing/tour-de-france/difficult-weather-forces-tour-de-france-shorten-stage-20-just-59km-432930

The fix is in for French riders Egan Bernal.
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies (Tour de France, brehs)
Post by: VomKriege on July 26, 2019, 05:34:58 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/umoF3xP.jpg)
Doping? Sorry I didn't play Deus Ex.  :kermit
France is back !
Pinot Alaphilippe is the new Fignault, suck it haters.
At last we can stop pretending to respect any foreign riders besides the Belgians, Dutchmen, Italians and Spaniards.
:rejoice :preach

spoiler (click to show/hide)
I'll never get to post it so I had to get it out of the system.
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Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies (Tour de France, brehs)
Post by: TEEEPO on July 26, 2019, 05:39:27 PM
 :stahp
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies (Tour de France, brehs)
Post by: TEEEPO on July 27, 2019, 04:20:41 PM
 :shaking
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies (Tour de France, brehs)
Post by: TEEEPO on August 31, 2019, 05:33:59 PM
vuelta, anybody?  :-\
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies (Tour de France, brehs)
Post by: VomKriege on August 31, 2019, 05:48:41 PM
vuelta, anybody?  :-\

I was kind of disconnected and only realized we were well in a couple of days ago... And I look at l'Equipe and you have a French rider (!) from Cofidis (!!!) In Red.
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies (Tour de France, brehs)
Post by: VomKriege on September 16, 2019, 03:18:03 AM
Well Roglic won a Grand Tour this year.
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies (Tour de France, brehs)
Post by: TEEEPO on September 19, 2020, 12:33:45 PM
WHAT

THE

FUCK
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies (Tour de France, brehs)
Post by: VomKriege on September 19, 2020, 01:04:06 PM
Yellow, white, polka jersey :larry
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies (Tour de France, brehs)
Post by: TEEEPO on September 19, 2020, 01:30:44 PM
https://twitter.com/faustocoppi60/status/1307364442431197188

 :lol
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies (Tour de France, brehs)
Post by: VomKriege on September 19, 2020, 02:21:03 PM
"Alien" performance :putin :cenk
Title: Re: Yes bécane! - The Other Bore Biker Daddies (Tour de France, brehs)
Post by: VomKriege on September 21, 2020, 12:23:09 PM
French police barged in Arkea-Samsic for a surprise search. Speculation / rumor is that they're targeting Nairo Quintana.