THE BORE

General => Video Game Bored => Topic started by: Himu on June 15, 2015, 01:28:08 PM

Title: Shenmue III OT - I CAN believe that it's bad!
Post by: Himu on June 15, 2015, 01:28:08 PM
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/ysnet/shenmue-3

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EDS2SYm5-hg

amaze.
Title: Re: Shenmue E3 thread of disappointment
Post by: toku on June 15, 2015, 01:38:11 PM
It'll be alright. You can survive this.
Title: Re: Shenmue E3 thread of disappointment
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 15, 2015, 01:44:10 PM
Ya its time to give this up.  It aint going to happen.  Maybe talk to a therapist. 
Title: Re: Shenmue E3 thread of disappointment
Post by: Himu on June 15, 2015, 01:47:13 PM
:umad at Shenmue fans who think anything is going to happen
Title: Re: Shenmue E3 thread of disappointment
Post by: Kara on June 15, 2015, 02:00:41 PM
RYO CAN'T BE TRAPPED IN THAT CAVE FOREVER
Title: Re: Shenmue E3 thread of disappointment
Post by: Himu on June 15, 2015, 02:06:11 PM
The Shenmue fans on gaf are so fucking delusional :rofl
Title: Re: Shenmue E3 thread of disappointment
Post by: Positive Touch on June 15, 2015, 02:08:35 PM
fuck is wrong with Shenmue fans? like I love Lunar and Mega Man Legends but when you hit the 15 year mark with no sign of a sequel is time to let go and move on.
Title: Re: Shenmue E3 thread of disappointment
Post by: Rufus on June 15, 2015, 02:09:17 PM
RYO CAN'T BE TRAPPED IN THAT CAVE FOREVER
Man, that ending. I've played that recently for the first time. What a way to end something you know isn't going to continue.
Title: Re: Shenmue E3 thread of disappointment
Post by: Himu on June 15, 2015, 02:10:12 PM
fuck is wrong with Shenmue fans? like I love Lunar and Mega Man Legends but when you hit the 15 year mark with no sign of a sequel is time to let go and move on.

The problem is that you think we all expect a sequel. I personally do not expect it. However, I would LIKE an HD collection, but even I'm not expecting anything.
Title: Re: Shenmue E3 thread of disappointment
Post by: Positive Touch on June 15, 2015, 02:11:26 PM
no one bought the games the first time around so....
Title: Re: Shenmue E3 thread of disappointment
Post by: Himu on June 15, 2015, 02:13:43 PM
Actually 1 sold 1 million, which I'm pretty sure is more than Lunar, which has had multiple ports.
Title: Re: Shenmue E3 thread of disappointment
Post by: Himu on June 15, 2015, 02:15:34 PM
Seriously though, I have no idea what's wrong with some of these people. Yu put up a teaser image with a big III on it in some theater for a presentation, and it was a fucking huge troll :rofl Nothing came about of it of course, but even after that, these people STILL think when he posts something that hints at something that it's a confirmation. :rofl
Title: Re: Shenmue E3 thread of disappointment
Post by: Kara on June 15, 2015, 02:16:06 PM
fuck is wrong with Shenmue fans? like I love Lunar and Mega Man Legends but when you hit the 15 year mark with no sign of a sequel is time to let go and move on.

We got an MMO and an appearance in a mascot cart racing game. :smug
Title: Re: Shenmue E3 thread of disappointment
Post by: Himu on June 15, 2015, 02:25:37 PM
Real talk, I don't expect Shenmue III to ever be made and I'm fine with that. What I want is an HD Collection in 1080p, Japanese voices, Passport esque models, and modern lighting. Since Sony helped revive Grim Fandango for a new release - an overbudget game that bombed in 1998 and formed a cult fanbase - it's not impossible given Yu's recent relationship with Sony.

However, the problem is EXPECTING that to happen. It'd kick ass and would totally nice if it did happen, but expecting it? :rofl
Title: Re: Shenmue E3 thread of disappointment
Post by: Himu on June 15, 2015, 02:29:08 PM
Vularai :lawd

Shenmue 1+2 HD Collection with Passport models and 1080p :lawd

(http://i.imgur.com/fDQ93Aw.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/YDS2lxl.jpg)

One can dream  :noah
Title: Re: Shenmue E3 thread of disappointment
Post by: Positive Touch on June 15, 2015, 04:09:39 PM
Actually 1 sold 1 million, which I'm pretty sure is more than Lunar, which has had multiple ports.

 :sabu these tears

lunar didn't cost seventy million to make and it wasn't met with severe backlash upon release
Title: Re: Shenmue E3 thread of disappointment
Post by: Kara on June 15, 2015, 04:12:23 PM
People have to give a shit in order for there to be a backlash. A Working Delays Sega CD game is the height of irrelevance.
Title: Re: Shenmue E3 thread of disappointment
Post by: Positive Touch on June 15, 2015, 04:18:53 PM
these feelings :rejoice

two cult classics beloved by discerning weebs, or two forgotten mistakes beloved by feverish loonies? the choice is clear

Title: Re: Shenmue E3 thread of disappointment
Post by: Himu on June 15, 2015, 04:18:56 PM
:damn Vularai
Title: Re: Shenmue E3 thread of disappointment
Post by: Trent Dole on June 15, 2015, 04:22:06 PM
Seriously though, I have no idea what's wrong with some of these people. Yu put up a teaser image with a big III on it in some theater for a presentation, and it was a fucking huge troll :rofl Nothing came about of it of course, but even after that, these people STILL think when he posts something that hints at something that it's a confirmation. :rofl
You'd think after that Mega 64 video he was involved in people would know better. :lol
Title: Re: Shenmue E3 thread of disappointment
Post by: Himu on June 15, 2015, 04:22:27 PM
Seriously though, I have no idea what's wrong with some of these people. Yu put up a teaser image with a big III on it in some theater for a presentation, and it was a fucking huge troll :rofl Nothing came about of it of course, but even after that, these people STILL think when he posts something that hints at something that it's a confirmation. :rofl
You'd think after that Mega 64 video he was involved in people would know better. :lol

:rofl

I forgot about that :dead

Yu is the master troll :rejoice
Title: Re: Shenmue E3 thread of disappointment
Post by: Tasty on June 15, 2015, 04:28:34 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ar0KojxIvmQ

Better than anything Sega could crap out today.
Title: Re: Shenmue E3 thread of disappointment
Post by: Himu on June 15, 2015, 04:30:42 PM
Shut up, Andy. Is it still real to you? :brazilcry

(http://i.imgur.com/CYCDRCD.jpg)
Title: Re: Shenmue E3 thread of disappointment
Post by: Tasty on June 15, 2015, 04:32:27 PM
It's a good thing I only stan popular, long-running game series. :aah

spoiler (click to show/hide)
Though I still want a new House of the Dead. Sega plz
[close]
Title: Re: Shenmue E3 thread of disappointment
Post by: Himu on June 15, 2015, 04:33:49 PM
You also stan the the least popular console since the dreamcast

:umad
Title: Re: Shenmue E3 thread of disappointment
Post by: Tasty on June 15, 2015, 04:41:22 PM
I don't care, it's already got better games than the Dreamcast and still has at least a year of life left. :umad
Title: Re: Shenmue E3 thread of disappointment
Post by: Trent Dole on June 15, 2015, 04:51:28 PM
Wrong.
Title: Re: Shenmue E3 thread of disappointment
Post by: Himu on June 15, 2015, 05:03:43 PM
I don't care, it's already got better games than the Dreamcast and still has at least a year of life left. :umad

(http://i.imgur.com/ZbxumvN.gif)
Title: Re: Shenmue E3 thread of disappointment
Post by: Trent Dole on June 15, 2015, 05:29:50 PM
E3 is so exciting that we're fighting the 16 bit console war again.
Title: Re: Shenmue E3 thread of disappointment
Post by: Tasty on June 15, 2015, 05:33:48 PM
Check the meta breh  :hitler
Title: Re: Shenmue E3 thread of disappointment
Post by: Kara on June 15, 2015, 05:51:01 PM
E3 is so exciting that we're fighting the 16 bit console war again.

For some of us it never ended. :goty2
Title: Re: Shenmue E3 thread of disappointment
Post by: qq more on June 15, 2015, 08:07:42 PM
I don't care, it's already got better games than the Dreamcast and still has at least a year of life left. :umad
(http://i.imgur.com/NjmAh.gif)
Title: Re: Shenmue E3 thread of disappointment
Post by: Tasty on June 15, 2015, 08:11:15 PM
For the record I didn't even start this, Himu gonna Himu lol.
Title: Re: Shenmue E3 thread of disappointment
Post by: thisismyusername on June 15, 2015, 08:25:25 PM
E3 is so exciting that we're fighting the 16 bit console war again.

For some of us it never ended. :goty2

Still living in the Sega vault, eh? :hitler
Title: Re: Shenmue E3 thread of disappointment
Post by: Kara on June 15, 2015, 08:40:51 PM
I make Andy look like Stoney Mason. :brazilcry
Title: Re: Shenmue E3 thread of disappointment
Post by: Himu on June 15, 2015, 08:43:55 PM
For the record I didn't even start this, Himu gonna Himu lol.

You can't say you posted a 1:50 minute video and say it will be better than anything sega will crap out today, in some fanboy-ish hilarity, and say,"that person started" :dead

Admit it, it's real to you Andy.
Title: Re: Shenmue E3 thread of disappointment
Post by: Tasty on June 15, 2015, 08:53:41 PM
For the record I didn't even start this, Himu gonna Himu lol.

You can't say you posted a 1:50 minute video and say it will be better than anything sega will crap out today, in some fanboy-ish hilarity, and say,"that person started" :dead

You guys brought up Mega64, I just posted the vid for context. And is what I said about modern Sega really in dispute? :comeon Gurl. :gurl

Admit it, it's real to you Andy.

You keep saying that but I don't think either of us knows what it means in such a context.
Title: Re: Shenmue E3 thread of disappointment
Post by: Kara on June 15, 2015, 08:55:49 PM
Modern Sega is a successful PC publisher. :gaben
Title: Re: Shenmue E3 thread of disappointment
Post by: Himu on June 15, 2015, 09:19:18 PM
I fucking hate this fanbase.

They're fucking stupid. It makes me wish I wasn't a Shenmue fan because they're so fucking DUMB.

http://www.shenmuedojo.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=48&t=47611&start=195#p1086881

Quote
My heart almost stopped at the beginning of the conference... I seriously was thinking of Shenmue instead of The Last Guardian. Such a bittersweet moment!
Title: Re: Shenmue E3 thread of disappointment
Post by: cool breeze on June 15, 2015, 09:51:40 PM
it's real (on kickstarter)
Title: Re: Shenmue E3 thread of disappointment
Post by: Himu on June 15, 2015, 09:58:40 PM
Vularai, hold me.
Title: Re: Shenmue E3 thread of disappointment
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 15, 2015, 09:59:50 PM
Himu remember this day.  Life will only be down hill from now on. 
Title: Re: Shenmue E3 thread of disappointment
Post by: Himu on June 15, 2015, 10:00:06 PM
Bluffing time.

fuck is wrong with Shenmue fans? like I love Lunar and Mega Man Legends but when you hit the 15 year mark with no sign of a sequel is time to let go and move on.

You will never get a new Lunar. No one gives a shit.

You will never get a new Mega Man Legends, no one gives a shit.

God. :rejoice

Now I can finally bask in crow tears. :rejoice

Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread
Post by: Great Rumbler on June 15, 2015, 10:00:50 PM
Bluffing time.

fuck is wrong with Shenmue fans? like I love Lunar and Mega Man Legends but when you hit the 15 year mark with no sign of a sequel is time to let go and move on.

You will never get a new Lunar. No one gives a shit.

You will never get a new Mega Man Legends, no one gives a shit.

God. :rejoice

Now I can finally bask in crow tears. :rejoice



Thanks, Sony. :beli
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread
Post by: cool breeze on June 15, 2015, 10:00:53 PM
$10,000 for the original jacket.  only 1 available.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread
Post by: Human Snorenado on June 15, 2015, 10:00:55 PM
I will never get an actual Phantasy Star V

:tocry
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread
Post by: Himu on June 15, 2015, 10:02:59 PM
I'm going to enjoy this.

I will never get an actual Phantasy Star V

:tocry

You will never get a Shining Force 5.
Title: Re: Shenmue E3 thread of disappointment
Post by: Kara on June 15, 2015, 10:03:10 PM
fuck is wrong with Shenmue fans? like I love Lunar and Mega Man Legends but when you hit the 15 year mark with no sign of a sequel is time to let go and move on.

fuck is wrong with Shenmue fans? like I love Lunar and Mega Man Legends but when you hit the 15 year mark with no sign of a sequel is time to let go and move on.

fuck is wrong with Shenmue fans? like I love Lunar and Mega Man Legends but when you hit the 15 year mark with no sign of a sequel is time to let go and move on.
Title: Re: Shenmue E3 thread of disappointment
Post by: Kara on June 15, 2015, 10:04:13 PM
fuck is wrong with Shenmue fans? like I love Lunar and Mega Man Legends but when you hit the 15 year mark with no sign of a sequel is time to let go and move on.

fuck is wrong with Shenmue fans? like I love Lunar and Mega Man Legends but when you hit the 15 year mark with no sign of a sequel is time to let go and move on.

fuck is wrong with Shenmue fans? like I love Lunar and Mega Man Legends but when you hit the 15 year mark with no sign of a sequel is time to let go and move on.
Title: Re: Shenmue E3 thread of disappointment
Post by: Kara on June 15, 2015, 10:04:25 PM
fuck is wrong with Shenmue fans? like I love Lunar and Mega Man Legends but when you hit the 15 year mark with no sign of a sequel is time to let go and move on.

fuck is wrong with Shenmue fans? like I love Lunar and Mega Man Legends but when you hit the 15 year mark with no sign of a sequel is time to let go and move on.

fuck is wrong with Shenmue fans? like I love Lunar and Mega Man Legends but when you hit the 15 year mark with no sign of a sequel is time to let go and move on.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread
Post by: Human Snorenado on June 15, 2015, 10:04:44 PM
I'm going to enjoy this.

I will never get an actual Phantasy Star V

:tocry

You will never get a Shining Force 5.

Phantasy Star was always the better series. But, yeah. Never getting either.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread
Post by: Himu on June 15, 2015, 10:04:57 PM
:rofl :umad :rofl
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread
Post by: Human Snorenado on June 15, 2015, 10:05:45 PM
In good news tho, the chances of Shenmue 3 sucking as bad as the first two games is roughly 100%, so this just means MORE trolling, really

:gladbron
Title: Re: Shenmue E3 thread of disappointment
Post by: Himu on June 15, 2015, 10:06:09 PM
Read this statement.


People have to give a shit in order for there to be a backlash. A Working Delays Sega CD game is the height of irrelevance.

Then read it again.

Get a good whiff.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread
Post by: Mr. Nobody on June 15, 2015, 10:06:24 PM
 :umad
 :umad
 :umad
 :umad
 :umad :umad :umad :miyamoto
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread
Post by: Positive Touch on June 15, 2015, 10:07:12 PM
GOD FUCKING DAMMIT I'M GONNA TROLL YOU FUCKS SO HARD JUST WAIT
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread
Post by: Positive Touch on June 15, 2015, 10:08:12 PM
this is by far the worst e3 ever in history
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread
Post by: Himu on June 15, 2015, 10:08:54 PM
This is the greatest E3 of all time :rejoice
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread
Post by: Himu on June 15, 2015, 10:09:19 PM
This has me so fucking happy and emotional I may just buy a PS4 to give Sony a big thank you.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread
Post by: Positive Touch on June 15, 2015, 10:10:55 PM
I'm calling up triumph for an emergency meeting so we can regroup and refocus our strategies
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread
Post by: Mr. Nobody on June 15, 2015, 10:10:58 PM
This has me so fucking happy and emotional I may just buy a PS4 to give Sony a big thank you.

Buy me one too bby  :-*
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread
Post by: cool breeze on June 15, 2015, 10:13:09 PM
already $200k funded
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread
Post by: Himu on June 15, 2015, 10:13:43 PM
Guys, go to the Dojo. We deserve this. :tocry

http://www.shenmuedojo.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=47619
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread
Post by: Rman on June 15, 2015, 10:15:23 PM
Can someone tell me why a multi-million dollar company like Sony is using KS?
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread
Post by: Great Rumbler on June 15, 2015, 10:16:14 PM
Can someone tell me why a multi-million dollar company like Sony is using KS?

Because they don't want to be on the hook for the entire budget on this turkey.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread
Post by: Dennis on June 15, 2015, 10:17:03 PM
Please give generously.

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/ysnet/shenmue-3
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread
Post by: cool breeze on June 15, 2015, 10:17:09 PM
Can someone tell me why a multi-million dollar company like Sony is using KS?

assess demand, maybe.  the IGA castlevania kickstarter was something like that.

now $350k+
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 15, 2015, 10:18:51 PM
Can someone tell me why a multi-million dollar company like Sony is using KS?

Because why take risks when you don't have to?
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread
Post by: Rman on June 15, 2015, 10:20:08 PM
Just seem a bit shady for KS for letting multinationals use it.

What's next, Kickstarting Oreo flavors?
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread
Post by: Mr. Nobody on June 15, 2015, 10:20:17 PM
Can someone tell me why a multi-million dollar company like Sony is using KS?

Because why take risks when you don't have to?

Clearly.

300+k :whew
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread
Post by: thisismyusername on June 15, 2015, 10:20:30 PM
Prepare for giggles and laughs from Shenmue fan disappointment! STRAP IN.

That egg on your face, bae.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread
Post by: Tasty on June 15, 2015, 10:20:38 PM
18% funded.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread
Post by: Himu on June 15, 2015, 10:21:50 PM
Anyone know if they're going to remake 1 and 2? Seems odd to not announce that as well.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread
Post by: Tasty on June 15, 2015, 10:22:10 PM
In.

(http://i.imgur.com/TGia14G.png)
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread
Post by: Mr. Nobody on June 15, 2015, 10:22:26 PM
This project will only be funded if at least $2,000,000 is pledged by Fri, Jul 17 2015 9:51 PM EDT.

The perfect birthday present  :lawd
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread
Post by: Himu on June 15, 2015, 10:22:46 PM
OMG Andy you beautiful fucker.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread
Post by: thisismyusername on June 15, 2015, 10:23:56 PM
Anyone know if they're going to remake 1 and 2? Seems odd to not announce that as well.

Probably not. At best you'll get an "HD" treatment, which would probably be the best move for them: Uprez the assets to the best you can, then throw them out the door for quick bucks.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread
Post by: Himu on June 15, 2015, 10:24:05 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EDS2SYm5-hg
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread
Post by: thisismyusername on June 15, 2015, 10:24:38 PM
In.

http://i.imgur.com/TGia14G.png

But you're not going to play either version, yeah? Pledge the PC version and give me? :uguu
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread
Post by: Himu on June 15, 2015, 10:25:30 PM
Anyone know if they're going to remake 1 and 2? Seems odd to not announce that as well.

Probably not. At best you'll get an "HD" treatment, which would probably be the best move for them: Uprez the assets to the best you can, then throw them out the door for quick bucks.

Like I said, I'm really rooting for 1+2 with Passport disc models and modern lighting. Maybe they could crib III's lighting system for the remakes?
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread
Post by: Tasty on June 15, 2015, 10:26:07 PM
First stretch goal is "recaps" of Shenmue 1 and 2. Probably cutscenes and stuff.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread
Post by: Tasty on June 15, 2015, 10:26:50 PM
In.

http://i.imgur.com/TGia14G.png

But you're not going to play either version, yeah? Pledge the PC version and give me? :uguu

Pledge $30 and get your own copy you cheap slut.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread
Post by: Tasty on June 15, 2015, 10:28:45 PM
25% funded.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread
Post by: Himu on June 15, 2015, 10:31:00 PM
TONIGHT THERE IS ONLY GAME.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0Izd2f6k2I
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread
Post by: Tasty on June 15, 2015, 10:31:53 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/Nsj9ZBY.png)
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread
Post by: Kara on June 15, 2015, 10:35:21 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/Nsj9ZBY.png)

:rofl hi haters :rofl
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread
Post by: Himu on June 15, 2015, 10:36:09 PM
They really do look silly now, don't they?

Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread
Post by: Dennis on June 15, 2015, 10:36:12 PM
Watch Shenmue 3 crush all naysayers.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread
Post by: thisismyusername on June 15, 2015, 10:37:06 PM
In.

http://i.imgur.com/TGia14G.png

But you're not going to play either version, yeah? Pledge the PC version and give me? :uguu

Pledge $30 and get your own copy you cheap slut.

Why do that when we both know you're not going to buy it to play on either platform? :uguu
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread
Post by: Kara on June 15, 2015, 10:39:26 PM
Jimbo PM your name so I can pledge $100 and get your name in the credits.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread
Post by: Tasty on June 15, 2015, 10:45:05 PM
In.

http://i.imgur.com/TGia14G.png

But you're not going to play either version, yeah? Pledge the PC version and give me? :uguu

Pledge $30 and get your own copy you cheap slut.

Why do that when we both know you're not going to buy it to play on either platform? :uguu

I'll probably have a good PC by then.

Jimbo PM your name so I can pledge $100 and get your name in the credits.

:dead
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread
Post by: Positive Touch on June 15, 2015, 10:47:31 PM
Jimbo PM your name so I can pledge $100 and get your name in the credits.

Joey JoJo JJR Shabidoo
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread
Post by: thisismyusername on June 15, 2015, 10:47:48 PM
I'll probably have a good PC by then.

:bolo We'll see. If not... :ufup :bolo :comeon
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread
Post by: Kara on June 15, 2015, 10:48:37 PM
694K already. :lawd
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread
Post by: nachobro on June 15, 2015, 10:48:37 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/fPnpqE4.jpg?1)

:rejoice
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread
Post by: Tasty on June 15, 2015, 10:49:09 PM
I should probably play the first two before this comes out lol.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread
Post by: Tasty on June 15, 2015, 10:53:15 PM
37% funded.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread
Post by: Human Snorenado on June 15, 2015, 10:54:55 PM
Worst E3 ever
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread
Post by: Tasty on June 15, 2015, 10:55:39 PM
Worst E3 ever

Don't worry man, Animal Crossing Wii U might be announced tomorrow too.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread
Post by: Mr. Nobody on June 15, 2015, 10:57:54 PM
https://twitter.com/FioraAeterna/status/610640868215668736

 :hitler
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread
Post by: Trent Dole on June 15, 2015, 10:58:35 PM
What the a 2 day KS? Yeah this is a blatant pr thing. If they ran the standard 30 days or whatever they could probably out raise Iga.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread
Post by: thisismyusername on June 15, 2015, 10:59:29 PM
What the a 2 day KS? Yeah this is a blatant pr thing. If they ran the standard 30 days or whatever they could probably out raise Iga.

:huh

? It's 31 days to go, breh.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread
Post by: Kara on June 15, 2015, 11:00:26 PM
I just realized someone is going to make a NAOMI mod for this that recreates the aesthetic of the original games. :lawd
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread
Post by: Himu on June 15, 2015, 11:00:33 PM

I find that they haven't aged well at all.......


How?
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread
Post by: Shaka Khan on June 15, 2015, 11:02:01 PM
Nothing gives me life more than looking back at how foolish Himu was.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread
Post by: Human Snorenado on June 15, 2015, 11:02:14 PM

I find that they haven't aged well at all.......


How?

...they sucked to begin with?
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread
Post by: Positive Touch on June 15, 2015, 11:02:39 PM
I can't imagine this'll have the same kind of gameplay as the old ones bc how can you do a full open world game on a limited budget.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread
Post by: Barraco Barner on June 15, 2015, 11:02:59 PM
Bought Ryo's jacket
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread
Post by: thisismyusername on June 15, 2015, 11:03:23 PM
Bought Ryo's jacket

Pic or didn't happen.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread
Post by: thisismyusername on June 15, 2015, 11:04:03 PM
Nothing gives me life more than looking back at how foolish Himu was.

To be fair to her, though: Did anyone expect this?
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread
Post by: Tasty on June 15, 2015, 11:04:53 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/IAkAPwq.gif)
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread
Post by: Himu on June 15, 2015, 11:05:03 PM
Nothing gives me life more than looking back at how foolish Himu was.

You don't have to be like that. I never expected III to ever happen.

At most I have expected an HD release, and that is what I have clamored for years. My post history backs that up.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread
Post by: Tasty on June 15, 2015, 11:05:30 PM
42% funded.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread
Post by: Shaka Khan on June 15, 2015, 11:06:04 PM
Nothing gives me life more than looking back at how foolish Himu was.

You don't have to be like that. I never expected III to ever happen.

At most I have expected an HD release, and that is what I have clamored for years. My post history backs that up.

But this should be a lesson in never saying never. Now apologize to every Shenmue fan you had their dreams crushed.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread
Post by: Kara on June 15, 2015, 11:06:25 PM
Nothing gives me life more than looking back at how foolish Himu was.

To be fair to her, though: Did anyone expect this?

I ALWAYS BELIEVED HE'D GET OUT OF THAT CAVE :tocry
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread
Post by: Himu on June 15, 2015, 11:06:46 PM
It should be for sure. Now to play Shenmue II! :punch
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread
Post by: Tasty on June 15, 2015, 11:10:39 PM
Hey himu

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwCERQCw5dI
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread
Post by: Mr. Gundam on June 15, 2015, 11:11:10 PM
Why can't I pledge for a physical PS4 copy?
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread
Post by: Kara on June 15, 2015, 11:12:22 PM
I just realized this is going to have Steam cards. :lawd
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread
Post by: Kara on June 15, 2015, 11:18:48 PM
[Lunar Legend] . . . a re-telling of the story of the first Lunar for the Game Boy Advance released in April 2001 in Japan and in North America the following December.

Lunar: Silver Star Harmony was created by Game Arts and distributed by Gung Ho Works. The game was released in the U.S. on March 2, 2010 for the PSP. The game is another enhanced remake of Lunar: The Silver Star.

Lunar: Silver Star Touch was released in the U.S on September 19, 2012 for iOS. The game is another enhanced remake of Lunar: The Silver Star, although no noticeable improvements had been made.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread
Post by: Trent Dole on June 15, 2015, 11:20:18 PM
What the a 2 day KS? Yeah this is a blatant pr thing. If they ran the standard 30 days or whatever they could probably out raise Iga.

:huh

? It's 31 days to go, breh.
I saw Ju 17 and missed the l on the end not being an n. :derp Yeah rip Igavania being the biggest game KS.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread
Post by: Positive Touch on June 15, 2015, 11:23:19 PM
[Lunar Legend] . . . a re-telling of the story of the first Lunar for the Game Boy Advance released in April 2001 in Japan and in North America the following December.

Lunar: Silver Star Harmony was created by Game Arts and distributed by Gung Ho Works. The game was released in the U.S. on March 2, 2010 for the PSP. The game is another enhanced remake of Lunar: The Silver Star.

Lunar: Silver Star Touch was released in the U.S on September 19, 2012 for iOS. The game is another enhanced remake of Lunar: The Silver Star, although no noticeable improvements had been made.

DON'T PUSH ME KARA YOU DON'T WANT THIS
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread
Post by: Trent Dole on June 15, 2015, 11:29:14 PM
Shenmue thread incomplete with this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rccW9Tig6_Y
I'm lookin for sailors
Lookin high and low
I'm lookin for sailors
Where did they go
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread
Post by: Himu on June 15, 2015, 11:31:56 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/aAMn22R.gif)
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread
Post by: Kara on June 15, 2015, 11:34:42 PM
997K :hitler
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread
Post by: Tasty on June 15, 2015, 11:35:08 PM
:drudge 50% funded. :drudge

(http://i.imgur.com/rVNfrro.png)
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread
Post by: Kara on June 15, 2015, 11:36:12 PM
ONE MILLION TROOPS / DOLLARS
WOW
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread
Post by: Tasty on June 15, 2015, 11:36:27 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/aAMn22R.gif)

Holy shit :dead

Sega fans, man...

I need a vid for this.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread
Post by: cool breeze on June 15, 2015, 11:36:35 PM
fastest to a million?
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread
Post by: Tasty on June 15, 2015, 11:38:23 PM
1 hour 45 minutes almost exactly. Wow.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread
Post by: Himu on June 15, 2015, 11:38:48 PM
I need a smoke. so. bad.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread
Post by: nachobro on June 15, 2015, 11:53:09 PM
I need a smoke. so. bad.
loaded up on smoke beforehand mostly to laugh at sony conference. probably the reason i decided almost $200 was a reasonable price for shenmue  :lol
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread
Post by: Mr. Gundam on June 15, 2015, 11:56:43 PM
Seriously, why no physical PS4 version?
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread
Post by: nachobro on June 15, 2015, 11:58:14 PM
Maybe Sony is gonna handle that after they give him the rest of the money
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread
Post by: eleuin on June 16, 2015, 12:01:57 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/aAMn22R.gif)

Holy shit :dead

Sega fans, man...
I need a vid for this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HXJTWEEi6BM
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread
Post by: Shaka Khan on June 16, 2015, 12:09:39 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/aAMn22R.gif)

Holy shit :dead

Sega fans, man...
I need a vid for this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HXJTWEEi6BM

"WE DID IT! WE DID IT!"

:dead
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread
Post by: Shaka Khan on June 16, 2015, 12:12:57 AM
All that aside, if there's one real thing we learned this month, is how absolutely paramount something like Kickstarter is to sustain the dying breed that is core gamers.

Just put your money where your mouth is, frantic stanleys.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread
Post by: Kara on June 16, 2015, 12:41:36 AM
1.2 million :hitler
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread
Post by: The Legend of Sunblade on June 16, 2015, 01:20:31 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ar0KojxIvmQ&feature=youtu.be

i hope this still happens
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread
Post by: Cheddahz on June 16, 2015, 01:22:13 AM
Ryo looks like he smeared his face with butter
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread
Post by: Himu on June 16, 2015, 01:30:13 AM
Had a fun session tonight. Made it to the sailors part, played some darts. Shame I can't play Space Harrier on NullDC.

Stay positive, friends.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-p5djGmavk

:jawalrus
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread
Post by: Himu on June 16, 2015, 01:40:11 AM
Anyways Andrex, I'm not sure if Shenmue is your thing. I'm not sure. It COULD be, but it's possible it won't be either. You tend to like games that are all about mechanics, games like Mario or Monster Hunter. However, you do enjoy alternative gaming too, like Animal Crossing. Shenmue isn't completely like Animal Crossing. The goal in Shenmue is to become a martial arts master in the traditional kung fu movie vein. The goal in Animal Crossing is to pay your stuff off. However, they create similar play mindsets for me. They're both games you boot up to RELAX. Shenmue is a game that requires patience. It isn't a game like modern games where everything is rewarded every time all the time. It's a game series about patience, sometimes literally. In Animal Crossing you plant stuff, dig for fossils, rearrange furniture, you have to wake up on Sunday to get beets, you only have one chance a day or a week to do certain things like get fortune telling or buy art from Redd if you don't cheat. Likewise, Shenmue is about getting information, and sometimes passing the time till the next event. Shenmue is also story-based, but if you're not interested in the story you don't have to fuck with it. So I'm split. I think you could love it, I think you could hate it. Like with Animal Crossing it's not really a game series with much middle ground. Either you get it or you don't. But I'd say with a big caveat that Shenmue is also a game that takes some time to adjust and "get". Even I didn't understand what the fuck I was playing when I first played it, but by the time I beat it it became one of my favorite games.

For what it's worth, 1 is not really action-based. You don't have a single fight on the first disc, I think, beyond the Sakuragaoka Park fight. But like I said, it's a game series about build up, and disc 3 becomes loads with fights. Shenmue II however, has tons of fights and has much more action-packed, fish out of water, traditional kung fu movie set up.

I highly suggest watching this, Andy.

https://youtu.be/xEvHCUgu3ko
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread
Post by: Tasty on June 16, 2015, 01:47:31 AM
Nah I'm gonna go in blind with an open mind and see where it takes me, like I used to do when I was a kid. No preconceptions other than maybe a cool boxart or TV commercial.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread
Post by: Himu on June 16, 2015, 01:50:20 AM
:obama
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread
Post by: Himu on June 16, 2015, 01:54:57 AM
Setting records.

I donated to the 60 dollar level.

http://www.cnet.com/news/shenmue-3-becomes-fastest-game-to-ever-hit-1-million-on-kickstarter/
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread
Post by: Kara on June 16, 2015, 01:59:36 AM
Going to wake up to this being fully funded and then I'm going to post a eulogy to the haters.

#optimism #hope
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread
Post by: Himu on June 16, 2015, 02:15:50 AM
As Shenmue fans we must have patience. If not tomorrow morning, tomorrow afternoon. :smug

You know what the best part of this is? Every few years I go back to Shenmue Dojo and re-read the Shenmue III section and I just want more but there's no answers. There was always uncertainty of it just never happening and I gave up on it a long time ago. But with this announcement, I saw Yu actually talking about Shenmue III. Like, it existed. For real. I couldn't fathom and I still can't fathom it because for so long we have been left in the dark, toyed with, trolled, and it just feels good to get actual answers from Yu.

Moreover, it feels great actually getting recognition from the gaming community. Shenmue fans for years have been the butt of gamings jokes. You know what it feels like when your favorite game is literally a joke to most people? After Yu's amazing retrospective on Shenmue 1 at GDC, the amount of sheer disrespect during the Q&A towards this gaming legend was enough to make me angry and I could barely finish watching it. But right now, it's no longer a joke. You don't have assholes like Jeff Gertsmann being fucking assholes about Shenmue, because now they've finally learned to shut the fuck up like God intended. But here we are, and Shenmue is smashing Kickstarter records and shit. It just feels really good for the community to have our back and to be happy for us and for Shenmue - one of the most influential games ever made  - to be not be treated as a joke and finally get its just recognition.

Today fucking owned.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread
Post by: mormapope on June 16, 2015, 03:09:36 AM
 :umad

Jeff Gertsmann trolls people by accident when he reviews videogames. Also, while this is awesome for Shenmue fans, there are people no doubt investing money into this and they've never touched a Shenmue game or give a serious fuck about its creator. Nerd curiosity or inner nerd cred validation is at full force here. Shenmue fans have let other people know why they should play and care about this series for 15 years, that's going to rub off on people.

Shenmue didn't influence much either. The majority of open world games use the GTA3 design philosophy of go to point A, B, or C and complete a linear mission in a open world. Shenmue isn't like that at all.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread
Post by: milchs evil twin on June 16, 2015, 03:24:41 AM
World Cup, Super Bowl and Shenmue 3 within the span of a year...

I'M A BELIEVER


spoiler (click to show/hide)
Looks kinda meh. Prefer the original graphics.
[close]
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread
Post by: Himu on June 16, 2015, 03:50:32 AM
It's a kickstarter. It's a demo, those graphics aren't final. It's a demo of the Guilin chapter of Shenmue II where you have to jump across stones. It isn't even going to be in III. They haven't even started officially working on the game. Considering how little they have to work with, it's really good considering they're just going with an idea. I'm sure the final game will look much better.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread
Post by: milchs evil twin on June 16, 2015, 04:05:58 AM
Still, what can we realistically expect from this. It's one location right now. Looks like it will be a minimum viable game. I guess we will get (some of) the story, but I can't see them having the resources to give us the insane level of detail the first two had.


Whatever. It's coming. :rejoice :rejoice :rejoice
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread
Post by: Dennis on June 16, 2015, 06:53:35 AM
WE DID IT
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread
Post by: Purrp Skirrp on June 16, 2015, 06:57:34 AM
As Shenmue fans we must have patience. If not tomorrow morning, tomorrow afternoon. :smug

You know what the best part of this is? Every few years I go back to Shenmue Dojo and re-read the Shenmue III section and I just want more but there's no answers. There was always uncertainty of it just never happening and I gave up on it a long time ago. But with this announcement, I saw Yu actually talking about Shenmue III. Like, it existed. For real. I couldn't fathom and I still can't fathom it because for so long we have been left in the dark, toyed with, trolled, and it just feels good to get actual answers from Yu.

Moreover, it feels great actually getting recognition from the gaming community. Shenmue fans for years have been the butt of gamings jokes. You know what it feels like when your favorite game is literally a joke to most people? After Yu's amazing retrospective on Shenmue 1 at GDC, the amount of sheer disrespect during the Q&A towards this gaming legend was enough to make me angry and I could barely finish watching it. But right now, it's no longer a joke. You don't have assholes like Jeff Gertsmann being fucking assholes about Shenmue, because now they've finally learned to shut the fuck up like God intended. But here we are, and Shenmue is smashing Kickstarter records and shit. It just feels really good for the community to have our back and to be happy for us and for Shenmue - one of the most influential games ever made  - to be not be treated as a joke and finally get its just recognition.

Today fucking owned.

I said biiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiitch.
(http://i.imgur.com/qHxvQLt.gif)

Shenmue is still a joke. Those Kickstarter records are thanks to fans like you, only second to Sonic stans in terms of long held inferiority complexes.

Get hyped for that :trash VO and influential :piss QTE "gameplay" :piss2

There's no way this game will live up to the expectations of its fanbase either, so I look forward to the inevitable punchline in the disappointment this will bring.

(http://i.imgur.com/zbM59bj.jpg)
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread
Post by: thisismyusername on June 16, 2015, 07:20:24 AM
Shenmue didn't influence much either. The majority of open world games use the GTA3 design philosophy of go to point A, B, or C and complete a linear mission in a open world. Shenmue isn't like that at all.

This. You're crazy, Himu, if you think Shamu actually influenced open-world design. It may have possibly created the genre (which I kinda doubt, GTA1 came out earlier?) and gave some people a view of "slice of life" shit like Animal Crossing. But it's design hasn't been used in most other open-world titles.

Also it's funny you 180'd from "hahaha, stupid fans holding out hope:"

Prepare for giggles and laughs from Shenmue fan disappointment! STRAP IN.

to "I TOLD YOU SO! I ALWAYS BELIEVED! :rejoice " in a matter of hours after this reveal happened. The only reason this is getting funded is because most people want to support it finally happening and backing up fans crazy hope. If this bombs a third time, you can expect not even Sony funding a fourth. So you better hope Yu has a goddamn conclusion for the series planned in this outing.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread
Post by: milchs evil twin on June 16, 2015, 07:44:19 AM
FUNDED!

As for the impact of Shenmue, I think it's somewhat limited, which is a damn shame. Graphics may have improved, but no game has ever felt as much like you're actually inhabiting that world ever since. Even something like GTA 5 is much more detached feeling.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread
Post by: sarslip on June 16, 2015, 08:03:35 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/aAMn22R.gif)


dis bissh ass knew what it was just from the shakuhachi notes   :neogaf
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread
Post by: qq more on June 16, 2015, 08:15:30 AM
Will fund once I get my pay-

woah what

In.

(http://i.imgur.com/TGia14G.png)
wait

waittttt

andrex is actually interested in a sega game?! andrex, you alright? are you feeling ok?
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread
Post by: Himu on June 16, 2015, 08:15:34 AM
Also it's funny you 180'd from "hahaha, stupid fans holding out hope:

Prepare for giggles and laughs from Shenmue fan disappointment! STRAP IN.

to "I TOLD YOU SO! I ALWAYS BELIEVED! :rejoice " in a matter of hours after this reveal happened. The only reason this is getting funded is because most people want to support it finally happening and backing up fans crazy hope. If this bombs a third time, you can expect not even Sony funding a fourth. So you better hope Yu has a goddamn conclusion for the series planned in this outing.

I don't think you can read. I said I gave up years ago. Why can't I be happy this is finally happening? What is wrong with you? I also never said there was nothing wrong with hoping. There had been massive evidence stockpiling for years. The problem was Shenmue fans who were always expecting something and making our fan base a joke. There's nothing wrong in wanting something - there is something wrong with always expecting something despite prior evidence.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread
Post by: Himu on June 16, 2015, 08:29:40 AM
Shenmue didn't influence much either. The majority of open world games use the GTA3 design philosophy of go to point A, B, or C and complete a linear mission in a open world. Shenmue isn't like that at all.

First off, fuck Gertsmann.

Second, are you really saying a fully voiced cinematic game with quick time events didn't inspire the industry? That is literally gamings blueprint currently. It's pretty clear how influential Shenmue and Metal Gear Solid are to modern gaming, especially when we get into QTE's and their prevalence. For what it's worth, I never really considered the game comparable to open world games. It's like comparing apples and oranges. They don't remotely follow the same design sense and never really have. When you go further down the rabbit hole, it's pretty clear Shenmue has inspired games like Yakuza, Morrowind, Heavy Rain, and LA Noir. In terms of free roaming roaming cinematic games with QTE's and enhanced world interaction Shenmue's influence is pretty clear and pretty much the go to. Do you really think RE4 would use QTEs if Shenmue hadn't made them relevant? Hell, it's in the name. QTE was specifically named for Shenmue, yet you deny its impact on gaming.

Pretty delusional.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread
Post by: Positive Touch on June 16, 2015, 08:32:09 AM
well I had Shenmue 2 on my Amazon wish list for like 5 years now. "I can just wait on this. it's only $3 and it's it's not like it'll ever get any higher," I always told myself. it's at $30 and climbing as of right now. fml
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread
Post by: qq more on June 16, 2015, 08:35:26 AM
well I had Shenmue 2 on my Amazon wish list for like 5 years now. "I can just wait on this. it's only $3 and it's it's not like it'll ever get any higher," I always told myself. it's at $30 and climbing as of right now. fml
shit

reminds me of when the megaman legend games skyrocketed in price when 3 was announced
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread
Post by: Himu on June 16, 2015, 08:38:29 AM
Xbox version?

Fucking emulate the DC version. I can show you how.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread
Post by: Positive Touch on June 16, 2015, 09:13:57 AM
Xbox version?

Fucking emulate the DC version. I can show you how.

my pc's in pieces in a box in the basement. lemme get off my ass and fix it.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread
Post by: Himu on June 16, 2015, 09:24:43 AM
Do you have a 360? How were you planning on playing it?

Emulated doesn't support the arcade games if that's important to you.

At this point, I'd hold off. I was expecting Shenmue I+II HD to probe audience interest in III, but that didn't happen. Maybe they're working on it? Maybe Yu can answer that question.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread
Post by: Positive Touch on June 16, 2015, 09:28:22 AM
course I got a 360. no arcade games sucks tho. what did they include in 2? my favorite time waster in 1 was Space Harrier.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread
Post by: Himu on June 16, 2015, 09:32:57 AM
Space Harrier
Hang On
Outrun
Fucking Afterburner II

There's also enhanced darts. You can play solo like before, or you can challenge other players to Dart contests to see who has the most points. Funnest mini game next to Triple Triad. :bow

There's gambling like with traditional dice games like big or small. There's shit like Lucky Hit, which I personally think sucks. You can arm wrestle too, but the doozy is there's street fighting in II. You can fight dudes for cash in Kowloon.

Kowloon you really have to search for the machines though because there's no central arcade. My issue with Kowloon is there's no darts. :brazilcry
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on June 16, 2015, 09:39:35 AM
Is this funded yet?
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread
Post by: Rufus on June 16, 2015, 09:44:54 AM
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/ysnet/shenmue-3
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on June 16, 2015, 09:49:30 AM
Oh wow it's really happening.

I played the demo on Xbox once and it didn't really impress me. Maybe it was even the full game. Hmm.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread
Post by: Kara on June 16, 2015, 10:04:23 AM
We are gathered here to pay disrespect to the haters, whose death gives us life. Please rise.

Blessed are those who love, for they will be #blessed by Kickstarter

For I am convinced that neither death nor life, neither Hong Kong nor Yokosuka, neither the present nor the future, nor any powers, neither height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the genius of Yu Suzuki that is in Shenmue games

We now commit their bodies to the ground;

Ignore list to ignore list, salt to salt, DUST 514 to DUST 514:

in the sure and certain hope of the resurrection of our beloved series.

Amen.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread
Post by: mormapope on June 16, 2015, 10:08:09 AM
First off, fuck Gertsmann.

Second, are you really saying a fully voiced cinematic game with quick time events didn't inspire the industry? That is literally gamings blueprint currently. It's pretty clear how influential Shenmue and Metal Gear Solid are to modern gaming, especially when we get into QTE's and their prevalence. For what it's worth, I never really considered the game comparable to open world games. It's like comparing apples and oranges. They don't remotely follow the same design sense and never really have. When you go further down the rabbit hole, it's pretty clear Shenmue has inspired games like Yakuza, Morrowind, Heavy Rain, and LA Noir. In terms of free roaming roaming cinematic games with QTE's and enhanced world interaction Shenmue's influence is pretty clear and pretty much the go to. Do you really think RE4 would use QTEs if Shenmue hadn't made them relevant? Hell, it's in the name. QTE was specifically named for Shenmue, yet you deny its impact on gaming.

Pretty delusional.


QTEs being in other games? Sure, Shenmue showed how it could be done. 

You yourself have said comparing Yakuza to Shenmue in any capacity is dumb, that they're completely different games. If you read the developmental history of Morrowind, any of it, you can see that they weren't inspired by Shenmue at all because they were too busy working on the game on and off before 1997. Heavy Rain follows in the same footsteps as Indigo Prophecy, which has a bunch of QTEs but very few branching story points. L.A. Noire is a mix of Shenmue (item twirling and some story branches) and GTA3. RE4 had a bunch of QTEs, so there's that. 

Shenmue had little to no impact. You can say how much work the creator and his team went through is inspiring, but the game itself didn't inspire much. I've played both Shenmue games to completion, I'm not looking to trash the series. But the most honest perspective for both Shenmue games is they're special snowflakes that some people cared about, but plenty of consumers and game designers didn't give much of a shit back then.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread
Post by: Himu on June 16, 2015, 10:14:38 AM
Naw, I think Yakuza and Shenmue are different kinds of games. When I said open world games, I was mainly talking about GTA which is usually the bigger comparison. Yakuza is clearly inspired by many elements of Shenmue personally, that doesn't mean they're comparable. Either way, I don't think it matters and this is a time for #positivity.

Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread
Post by: Great Rumbler on June 16, 2015, 10:18:09 AM
I'm not going to chip in to the Kickstarter, but I'll buy Shenmue 3 on Steam to support Gaben. :yeshrug
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread
Post by: Kara on June 16, 2015, 10:24:35 AM
I said biiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiitch.
(http://i.imgur.com/qHxvQLt.gif)

Shenmue is still a joke. Those Kickstarter records are thanks to fans like you, only second to Sonic stans in terms of long held inferiority complexes.

Get hyped for that :trash VO and influential :piss QTE "gameplay" :piss2

There's no way this game will live up to the expectations of its fanbase either, so I look forward to the inevitable punchline in the disappointment this will bring.

(http://i.imgur.com/zbM59bj.jpg)

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Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread
Post by: mormapope on June 16, 2015, 10:26:31 AM
Don't know if this has been posted yet, but Shenmue 3 is funded or funded to the point of happening.

It will easily get to 5 million bucks, maybe 10 or 15 million.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread
Post by: Joe Molotov on June 16, 2015, 10:27:50 AM
I said biiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiitch.
(http://i.imgur.com/qHxvQLt.gif)

Shenmue is still a joke. Those Kickstarter records are thanks to fans like you, only second to Sonic stans in terms of long held inferiority complexes.

Get hyped for that :trash VO and influential :piss QTE "gameplay" :piss2

There's no way this game will live up to the expectations of its fanbase either, so I look forward to the inevitable punchline in the disappointment this will bring.

(http://i.imgur.com/zbM59bj.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/XhtBrW0.png)(http://i.imgur.com/XhtBrW0.png)(http://i.imgur.com/XhtBrW0.png)(http://i.imgur.com/XhtBrW0.png)(http://i.imgur.com/XhtBrW0.png)(http://i.imgur.com/XhtBrW0.png)(http://i.imgur.com/XhtBrW0.png)(http://i.imgur.com/XhtBrW0.png)(http://i.imgur.com/XhtBrW0.png)(http://i.imgur.com/XhtBrW0.png)(http://i.imgur.com/XhtBrW0.png)(http://i.imgur.com/XhtBrW0.png)

:dead
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread
Post by: Himu on June 16, 2015, 10:28:09 AM
I'm betting on 6 million. I'd like 8-10 million. Really want them to say something about an HD collection.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 16, 2015, 10:59:33 AM
At $2,386,886  with 29,935 backers.  2,389,601/29,935  = 79.82.  You disgusting fan boys.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread
Post by: Tasty on June 16, 2015, 10:59:44 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/EVqeIQIl.png)

http://www.kicktraq.com/projects/ysnet/shenmue-3/
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread
Post by: Himu on June 16, 2015, 11:01:16 AM
At $2,386,886  with 29,935 backers.  2,389,601/29,935  = 79.82.  You disgusting fan boys.

One of the former admins at Shenmue dojo who backed 10k :lol
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread
Post by: thisismyusername on June 16, 2015, 11:01:37 AM
Also it's funny you 180'd from "hahaha, stupid fans holding out hope:

Prepare for giggles and laughs from Shenmue fan disappointment! STRAP IN.

to "I TOLD YOU SO! I ALWAYS BELIEVED! :rejoice " in a matter of hours after this reveal happened. The only reason this is getting funded is because most people want to support it finally happening and backing up fans crazy hope. If this bombs a third time, you can expect not even Sony funding a fourth. So you better hope Yu has a goddamn conclusion for the series planned in this outing.

I don't think you can read. I said I gave up years ago. Why can't I be happy this is finally happening? What is wrong with you? I also never said there was nothing wrong with hoping. There had been massive evidence stockpiling for years. The problem was Shenmue fans who were always expecting something and making our fan base a joke. There's nothing wrong in wanting something - there is something wrong with always expecting something despite prior evidence.

Sure, you "gave up years ago." But your reaction to this news being "OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG I BELIEVED! I BELIEVED!" is funny to me. You were all ":rejoice Gamer Tears :rejoice " and then it happens and you're all ":ohhh :phil " to the news.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 16, 2015, 11:01:55 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/aAMn22R.gif)

Holy shit :dead

Sega fans, man...
I need a vid for this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HXJTWEEi6BM

"WE DID IT! WE DID IT!"

:dead

Grown men should not be this excited ever. 
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread
Post by: Himu on June 16, 2015, 11:02:50 AM
Also it's funny you 180'd from "hahaha, stupid fans holding out hope:

Prepare for giggles and laughs from Shenmue fan disappointment! STRAP IN.

to "I TOLD YOU SO! I ALWAYS BELIEVED! :rejoice " in a matter of hours after this reveal happened. The only reason this is getting funded is because most people want to support it finally happening and backing up fans crazy hope. If this bombs a third time, you can expect not even Sony funding a fourth. So you better hope Yu has a goddamn conclusion for the series planned in this outing.

I don't think you can read. I said I gave up years ago. Why can't I be happy this is finally happening? What is wrong with you? I also never said there was nothing wrong with hoping. There had been massive evidence stockpiling for years. The problem was Shenmue fans who were always expecting something and making our fan base a joke. There's nothing wrong in wanting something - there is something wrong with always expecting something despite prior evidence.

Sure, you "gave up years ago." But your reaction to this news being "OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG I BELIEVED! I BELIEVED!" is funny to me. You were all ":rejoice Gamer Tears :rejoice " and then it happens and you're all ":ohhh :phil " to the news.

Point me to a place where I said believed? Pretty positive my reaction is mostly due to the fact I didn't believe?

I mean, you have to understand. I am battered. I have been disappointed after hint after hint after teaser for almost ten years. You don't realize it's a defense mechanism. I couldn't get hyped or excited because that always sets up disappointment. :brazilcry
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread
Post by: Tasty on June 16, 2015, 11:03:17 AM
Will fund once I get my pay-

woah what

In.

(http://i.imgur.com/TGia14G.png)
wait

waittttt

andrex is actually interested in a sega game?! andrex, you alright? are you feeling ok?

:wtf

I love Sega games. Historically they've been some of the most outright-fun pure-gameplay arcadey experiences ever. Great memories of House of the Dead, Crazy Taxi, and the occasional Sonic game.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread
Post by: Himu on June 16, 2015, 11:06:03 AM
Shenmue is not a pure gameplay experience, Andy. It blends gameplay with cinematic story telling. It's a game wholly driven by storytelling. Shenmue I has maybe less than 10 fights in it.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread
Post by: milchs evil twin on June 16, 2015, 11:06:16 AM
You bitches won't kill my vibe.

Edit: I think it's mostly driven by immersion for me, however vague that may be defined. You felt like you actually lived in Yokosuka in the first game, and you felt like you were only a traveller in Hong Kong. No game has ever conveyed that as well to me.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread
Post by: studyguy on June 16, 2015, 11:06:51 AM
Already funded. You can't stop this  :punch Fucking QTEs, capsule toys, sailors, 4wudu
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread
Post by: Himu on June 16, 2015, 11:10:41 AM
Anyone else remember this? Ten years. :brazilcry

http://archive.videogamesdaily.com/news/200508/141_p1.asp

Kikizo broke my heart.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread
Post by: Kara on June 16, 2015, 11:15:18 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/EVqeIQIl.png)

http://www.kicktraq.com/projects/ysnet/shenmue-3/

Bummer, won't beat the Star Citizen :expert s.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread
Post by: Himu on June 16, 2015, 11:18:04 AM
You bitches won't kill my vibe.

Edit: I think it's mostly driven by immersion for me, however vague that may be defined. You felt like you actually lived in Yokosuka in the first game, and you felt like you were only a traveller in Hong Kong. No game has ever conveyed that as well to me.

Agreed. I loved how in I it really was your home town and II was completely fish out of water. The way the dialogue enhanced this was a great touch. In Shenmue, you ask for where a place is and the npcs act like you already know where it is, which forces more exploration. In II, you ask where something is and they give these fucking elaborate directions, like, keep going that way and you'll see a man next to some birds, turn left and keep going.

Even the way you learn moves. I always loved how they never say stupid 4th wall shit like most games, and if you're going to do a move like <- -> X they'd say, shift your weight backward, then thrust forward as you punch.

Even the QTE's are like this. In other games, QTE's are fucking random button presses. In Shenmue, all the button prompts are in relation to actual buttons in fights. So if Ryo punches in a QTE, you press the punch button. If you're going to duck and then punch, you press down and then punch button. It was always so natural and consistent that few games have.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread
Post by: Great Rumbler on June 16, 2015, 11:19:29 AM
It will easily get to 5 million bucks, maybe 10 or 15 million.

For reference, it's made more than half of Bloodstained's total [$5.5 million] in about 14 hours.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread
Post by: Himu on June 16, 2015, 11:19:58 AM
What do you guys want in III?

I want more arcade games. I want Daytona USA and Virtua Fighter 2 in Shenmue III. No, I don't care they didn't exist in the 80's!

And speaking of immersion, I want the voice track to be fully voiced in Chinese for maximum immersion. :rejoice
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread
Post by: Great Rumbler on June 16, 2015, 11:22:17 AM
I want more arcade games. I want Daytona USA and Virtua Fighter 2 in Shenmue III. No, I don't care they didn't exist in the 80's!

I wouldn't get my hopes up for Shenmue 3 including Sega arcade games, if I were you. Especially after reading the FAQ:

Quote
Is this game affiliated with SEGA?

SEGA has officially given us the rights to use the "Shenmue" license.

Are there plans for the HD versions of Shenmue 1 & 2?

The property rights for Shenmue 1 and Shenmue 2 belong to SEGA, so we are not in a position to comment on that.

Comes across like Sega throwing Yu Suzuki a bone by giving him their blessing to go forward with a game they have zero interest in pursuing, rather than Sega actually having some involvement themselves which would make it easier to put their arcades games in it.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread
Post by: milchs evil twin on June 16, 2015, 11:23:07 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/EVqeIQIl.png)

http://www.kicktraq.com/projects/ysnet/shenmue-3/

Yeeeeah, right.


As for what I want from it, I'm keeping my hopes down. I don't expect any games and little of the attention to detail, as I just don't think that's realistic given the circumstances. There's no way this lives up to I and II. I just want some conclusion to the story.

I wonder if Shenmue will ever return to a bigger city again.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread
Post by: Himu on June 16, 2015, 11:26:18 AM
I think we may hit Beijing in III.  It'd make sense if that's where Chi You Men hq is. One of he stretch goals is Bailu village. That seems familiar?

I want more arcade games. I want Daytona USA and Virtua Fighter 2 in Shenmue III. No, I don't care they didn't exist in the 80's!

I wouldn't get my hopes up for Shenmue 3 including Sega arcade games, if I were you.

YSNet is licensing the Shenmue license. How much would it be to license Space Harrier, Hang On, Afterburner, Outrun, Daytona, and VF2?
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread
Post by: Great Rumbler on June 16, 2015, 11:27:11 AM
That trend line is the current daily average stretched out to the end, which is impossible to keep up. $7-$8 million is possible, though.

YSNet is licensing the Shenmue license. How much would it be to license Space Harrier, Hang On, Afterburner, Outrun, Daytona, and VF2?

You mean, how much would it cost to get rights to games that Sega might actually care about versus the rights to a game they have zero interest in? "More" is the answer to that, and I rather think you should be wanting them to put that money into core gameplay elements [cutscenes, combat, voice acting, graphics] than fun little additions.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread
Post by: Himu on June 16, 2015, 11:30:11 AM
Sega please give us Shenmue I+II HD with updated controls and Japanese VO at least.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread
Post by: Kara on June 16, 2015, 12:15:31 PM
What do you guys want in III?

I want more arcade games. I want Daytona USA and Virtua Fighter 2 in Shenmue III. No, I don't care they didn't exist in the 80's!

And speaking of immersion, I want the voice track to be fully voiced in Chinese for maximum immersion. :rejoice

I just want Ryo to get out of that cave. :tocry
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread
Post by: Positive Touch on June 16, 2015, 12:31:36 PM
Sega released way more popular games in hd and they flopped. I think a rerelease is even less likely than 3, especially an enhanced one like you're hoping for.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread
Post by: Kara on June 16, 2015, 12:34:36 PM
Sega released way more popular games in hd and they flopped. I think a rerelease is even less likely than 3, especially an enhanced one like you're hoping for.

Jimbodamus has spoken, hope you're ready for an amazing HD release Himu-chan. :hyper
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread
Post by: Himu on June 16, 2015, 12:36:40 PM
Okay. I'll take concessions. Don't enhance it. Modernize the controls and give us Japanese vo and that's it.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread
Post by: Kara on June 16, 2015, 01:13:14 PM
I think I'm going to get my sibling's name in the credits. Shenmue was the game that got them into gaming and a lot of my fondness for the title stems from that. (Got a call from mom once asking what they were playing that had them asking people where they could find some sailors. :dead) I had to cut them out of my life this year but I still love them and I hope they play this and see their name. :uguu
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread
Post by: Tasty on June 16, 2015, 01:35:48 PM
What do you guys want in III?

I want more arcade games. I want Daytona USA and Virtua Fighter 2 in Shenmue III. No, I don't care they didn't exist in the 80's!

And speaking of immersion, I want the voice track to be fully voiced in Chinese for maximum immersion. :rejoice

I just want Ryo to get out of that cave. :tocry

And I want him to get out of the closet. :aah
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread
Post by: Great Rumbler on June 16, 2015, 01:40:11 PM
What do you guys want in III?

I want more arcade games. I want Daytona USA and Virtua Fighter 2 in Shenmue III. No, I don't care they didn't exist in the 80's!

And speaking of immersion, I want the voice track to be fully voiced in Chinese for maximum immersion. :rejoice

I just want Ryo to get out of that cave. :tocry

And into my car.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread
Post by: CatsCatsCats on June 16, 2015, 03:03:40 PM
Lol @ people paying so much to play this. Incredible
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread
Post by: Himu on June 16, 2015, 03:06:46 PM
Lol @ people paying so much to play this. Incredible

Stick to Minecraft.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread
Post by: Great Rumbler on June 16, 2015, 03:19:19 PM
Like, I don't really care that much about playing Shenmue 3. I played the original back in the day, liked it okay and thought what it did was pretty amazing at the time, but I didn't even play Shenmue 2 all that much. To me, though, the Shenmue 3 announcement is what E3 is all about: crazy surprise announcements that people go nuts over. Seeing the extreme reactions from people made it totally worth it.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread
Post by: Stoney Mason on June 16, 2015, 03:22:54 PM
I have zero interest for shenmue 3. Played the originals and thought they were mostly over-rated even back then although they had interesting little bits in them. That being said, good on them for making something for the audience that wants it. It's no different to me than any other kickstarter. If it interests a person. That's cool. If it doesn't that's cool too.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread
Post by: CatsCatsCats on June 16, 2015, 03:53:31 PM
Lol @ people paying so much to play this. Incredible

Stick to Minecraft.

:gurl I don't care how much you wanted to play this game, people pledging 100+ aren't gonna get that value out of it. But who am I to stand in the way of the fleecing of nerds?
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread
Post by: Himu on June 16, 2015, 03:59:30 PM
Who said anything about value? I want to donate 200 dollars, but the rewards are mostly the reason.

At the 200 dollar level I would get:

(http://i.imgur.com/qucTuT3.png)

- Printed artbook curated by Yu Suzuki
- Backer-only Advanced Technique Scroll (In-game Item)
- 20 Capsule Toy Tickets  (In-game Item)
- Mp3 download of the original soundtrack with unreleased tracks
- Shenmue 3 T-shirt
- Digital copy of the trial version for PC
- My name in the credits.
- Physical PC version.
- Be able to participate in surveys and vote in polls for the ideas you want to see in the game.

I usually scoff at collectors editions and stuff. I find all of that stuff extraneous and stupid, but not with Shenmue. I want it all. :rejoice I'm considering doing the 250 level for the physical OST.   :mynicca Shenmue II didn't have a soundtrack released and I want in. :hyper
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread
Post by: Tasty on June 16, 2015, 04:02:34 PM
I don't want anything physical which is why I didn't donate more.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread
Post by: nachobro on June 16, 2015, 04:58:06 PM
I almost went with the Physical OST reward but eh, it was $75 more than the one below it. Dunno if some CDs are worth $75 for me. Also remember they'll add $10 to whatever you contribute for shipping any physical rewards.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread
Post by: Kara on June 16, 2015, 05:12:12 PM
You forgot Yu Suzuki's gratitude, Himu. That alone is worth at least $5. :wag
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread
Post by: qq more on June 16, 2015, 05:20:29 PM
Are the Toy Capsules physical or is it an in-game item? The wording is sort of confusing me and would like some clarification.

"An actual toy capsule that will appear in the game!"

Leaning towards the former though.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread
Post by: Himu on June 16, 2015, 05:21:50 PM
I don't know. I think they're real.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread
Post by: nachobro on June 16, 2015, 05:24:54 PM
Seems like he capsule is a physical replica of one in the game
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread
Post by: Himu on June 16, 2015, 05:38:28 PM
Yeah, I just went with 60 because I can't afford anything else right now. :tocry I really hope I can get the soundtrack without going through KS when this comes out.

Speaking of the soundtrack, that is looking REALLY good right now with Iuchi coming back. Here's hoping they reunite the entire soundtrack team.

Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread
Post by: milchs evil twin on June 16, 2015, 05:42:27 PM
Seems like it's confirmed now that Sony is involved more deeply.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread
Post by: Himu on June 16, 2015, 05:44:24 PM
Yu Suzuki interview coming soon!

Also:

(http://i.imgur.com/0xRacNX.png)
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread
Post by: Kara on June 16, 2015, 05:46:56 PM
Yeah, I just went with 60 because I can't afford anything else right now. :tocry I really hope I can get the soundtrack without going through KS when this comes out.

:tocry
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread
Post by: cool breeze on June 16, 2015, 05:47:29 PM
Seems like it's confirmed now that Sony is involved more deeply.

yeah, same situation as bloodstained.  kickstarter to gauge interest.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread
Post by: The Legend of Sunblade on June 16, 2015, 05:49:30 PM
Gio Corci mentioned in their livestream that Sony ARE helping with funding and development.

Prob the same situation as SFV then. Sony seems chill on these games getting PC releases.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread
Post by: Himu on June 16, 2015, 05:53:20 PM
Yeah, Sony are being real champs over here. They could easily make this shit exclusive to their system but nope, they letting PC gamers eat. :rejoice Thanks for funding these games and allowing me to not forcing me to buy your system, brehs. :rejoice
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread
Post by: Shaka Khan on June 16, 2015, 05:57:01 PM
Will the project continue raking money at the same page in light of this now?
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread
Post by: Himu on June 16, 2015, 06:04:08 PM
I don't understand your question? What do you mean same page? The project is on considering how fast this got funded likely. Sony probably won't go all out in terms of money.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread
Post by: Rufus on June 16, 2015, 06:19:06 PM
I think he meant "pace".
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread
Post by: milchs evil twin on June 16, 2015, 06:25:39 PM
Why are people mad at this?

It didn't get made before the KS thing.

It gets made now.

Who the fuck cares about anything else.

I'm a massive MS fanboy, and I'm simply glad this is happening. Thanks Sony, you sold me my first PlayStation.

spoiler (click to show/hide)
In 2017 at the earliest
[close]
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread
Post by: eleuin on June 16, 2015, 06:31:16 PM
Never played a Shenmue before, pledged 29$  :yeshrug
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread
Post by: Himu on June 16, 2015, 06:31:34 PM
Yu Suzuki interview.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=33&v=yPgiRIR07qU

Confirms Sony is co-developing and publishing. Also confirms this will be a FULL Shenmue experience.

I still can't believe this shit. This is actually happening, isn't it?
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (Sony backed, full Shenmue experience)
Post by: Himu on June 16, 2015, 06:36:11 PM
Yu posted a plog on Playstation.

Quote
Hello everyone. Yu Suzuki here. It has been 14 years since Shenmue II first went on sale. The game system it was released on, the Dreamcast, is not around anymore, but the voices of the fans that have been eagerly awaiting the sequel are still there and are as loud as ever. Any country I visit for work, any event where I am up on stage, any interview I do, the question I always get asked is, “When is the next Shenmue coming out?”

Moved by the fans and their passion, I have been constantly doing my homework and preparing for this day. And here it is — today marks the beginning of the Shenmue III project on Kickstarter. If there were to be a sequel to Shenmue, I wanted the voices of the fans to be heard, so we could make it together. I knew that could happen with Kickstarter.

PlayStation fans love video games, deeply understand video games, and have great ideas about what video games should be. Your support and cooperation will be absolutely necessary for this project. Our Kickstarter goal of 2 million dollars is certainly not an easy one. However, if we do reach that 2 million dollar mark, Shenmue will live again on PS4 (and PC).

The more our project can collect for game development during this campaign, the more the game will come alive — with more quests, more story events, more mini-games, the addition of a free-battle system, and more fight options. Stretch goals are part of the project to show supporting fans what they can expect as project funds increase. Like at the 2.5 million dollar stretch goal, Shenmue I & II flashback scenes will be added.

If you have not heard of Shenmue or are a first-time Shenmue gamer, this stretch goal will give you an even deeper gaming experience. Both you and your friends will benefit from your support, and you will be helping to create the next generation of Shenmue fans.

One of the rewards for the project will be the Shenmue III Demo Version. Something like this, of course, was not around for I & II. This is a Kickstarter-only privilege that will allow you to play Shenmue III before it gets to the stores. Besides me and the development team, those who play the Demo Version will really have the first word on the new Shenmue III.
We have a lot to show you, so please come and take a look at our project page.
So, until next time!

http://blog.us.playstation.com/2015/06/15/yu-suzuki-begins-crowdfunding-shenmue-iii-on-ps4/
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread
Post by: Kara on June 16, 2015, 06:42:46 PM
Why are people mad at this?

It didn't get made before the KS thing.

It gets made now.

Who the fuck cares about anything else.

I'm a massive MS fanboy, and I'm simply glad this is happening. Thanks Sony, you sold me my first PlayStation.

spoiler (click to show/hide)
In 2017 at the earliest
[close]

They're angry because they stopped loving games years ago and never stood for anything greater than themselves so seeing our love and self-sacrifice prevail is like two daggers twisting in their hearts. If they even still have hearts. They deserve our pity, not our ire.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (Sony backed, full Shenmue experience)
Post by: a slime appears on June 16, 2015, 06:58:45 PM
Kickstarter for these types of projects is a real shitty way to manipulate the system just to be a barometer for consumer interest. They set false goals and the general public gets conned into thinking games cost a lot lower than they really do.

This project is literally pre-ordering a game for full price years ahead of release. I'll just pocket my money and wait until it's released so I can get a physical boxed version.

I was also there near the very front and people lost their shit. A guy was literally sobbing not in front of me. It was pretty cool though being part of gaming history and being feet away from Yu Suzuki at GDC for his Shenmue presentation and now E3 for this.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (Sony backed, full Shenmue experience)
Post by: Tasty on June 16, 2015, 07:04:57 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ce9iBXXmzgA
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (Sony backed, full Shenmue experience)
Post by: Shaka Khan on June 16, 2015, 07:17:17 PM
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=168482158&postcount=4675

Good jon, Yu. You could have saved this person's life by announcing the KS before Friday, but noooooo, you had to give in to the game of hype and console wars.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (Sony backed, full Shenmue experience)
Post by: Kara on June 16, 2015, 07:20:15 PM
Hanged.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (Sony backed, full Shenmue experience)
Post by: VomKriege on June 16, 2015, 07:27:26 PM
The problem is that crowdfunding being used by billionaire companies is somewhat jarring to a lot of people, who think it's an antithesis to what this system should be supporting. Because they don't need it really and they're pushing aside amateur projects which are the ones who are supposed to rely on unconventional funding. 2 millions (or even 4 or 6) is almost chump change for a project like Shenmue and certainly for Sony (I know it's not Sony that does the KS, but they suggested the idea to Yu Suzuki, clearly). For them it is all just a cheap way to gain some viral marketing traction and pre-orders masquerading as donations. It's the same modern nadsat that substitute "professionalism" with "passion" and it is being instrumentalised to strip the public up to the most fundamental customer's rights.

Of course if we go over the finer points, there's as always a large grey area in those matters but not really when the situation is so comically being abused by a company the size of Sony.

Jadedness aside, everyone is free to do what he wants with his money and while not a big Shenmue fan, I recognize it is really a miracle it may exist at all (way more than TLG or FF7R) so I won't rain on the fan's parade constantly. I fear the final result will be underwhelming, but heh...

EDIT : Also I believe crowdfunding is not really compatible with a project of that ambition or that size.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (Sony backed, full Shenmue experience)
Post by: Kara on June 16, 2015, 07:47:00 PM
Because this was on Kickstarter I found something completely unrelated that I'm also backing.

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/puuung1/love-is-puuungs-illustration-of-love
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (Sony backed, full Shenmue experience)
Post by: Positive Touch on June 16, 2015, 07:48:40 PM
if it takes a relative handful of people with a lot of disposable income to chip in to a pile that'll ultimately allow a game to get made when it wouldn't otherwise, then who cares? how does it hurt you or anyone else? they're basically allowing people to buy super limited premium packages of their game is all.

and the bit about taking money from small devs is straight up bs. there's not a limited pool of money for all games on ks; anyone can succeed. these big projects get a lot of money bc people know the track record of the team behind them and know that they will almost undoubtedly deliver a finished product.

I swear some of yall have this warped naive view of how money moves in the industry. so many gamers judge companies with the same criteria they should be using to judge friendships...
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (Sony backed, full Shenmue experience)
Post by: Himu on June 16, 2015, 07:58:06 PM
I read a post on gaf earlier about Sony funding and the KS guaging interest and some moron was like "not a fan of this approach" as if there's any other approach available. Gamers :snoop
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (Sony backed, full Shenmue experience)
Post by: Kara on June 16, 2015, 08:04:06 PM
Money is infinite. -Jimbo
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (Sony backed, full Shenmue experience)
Post by: Himu on June 16, 2015, 08:05:39 PM
Seriously though, I think people overestimate the amount of money that'd be required to make Shenmue III with today's tech. A large part of Shenmue's budget was changing systems and making a whole new engine. Never mind the revolutionary things they were doing at the time that should be so much easier now. Witcher 3 was made on 15 million. GTAV was made on 200 million and that's because it's such a huge game. Shen mue III is more than likely going to be similar to Disc 4 of II: there's a village of Langshuishan and a lot of country. In fact, looking at the map for Shenmue's story as revealed at the GDC presentation, it's likely Shenmue will never be set in another urban environment. From now on the focus is heavily on rural villages. Comparing a game of that scope to GTAV? It's not even close. If Shenmue III kickstarter reaches 8-10 million like I'm hoping it does, that will be a large amount of its budget estimates I'm betting.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (Sony backed, full Shenmue experience)
Post by: Positive Touch on June 16, 2015, 08:06:14 PM
Money is infinite. -Jimbo

QUIT CALLING ME JIMBO :maf
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (Sony backed, full Shenmue experience)
Post by: VomKriege on June 16, 2015, 08:07:01 PM
But does it "ultimately allow" Shenmue III to get made ? There's no way this game costs 2 million and no way this amout would be the do or die difference for a company like Sony.

And I don't see how it's a naive view of financing. Quite the contrary in fact. It's those Kickstarter (or some Patreons, etc...) which appeals to "donations", "you're not a consumer, you're a backer and a co-producer", "putting Shenmue in the hands of gamers" yadda yadda and all this sentimental bullshit when we are in fact speaking of a multi-million dollar project destined to make profits and appeal to mass markets.

EDIt : The Witcher 3 cost 15, marketing not included. Otherwise it's double that amount. With maybe Polish wages in the equation.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (Sony backed, full Shenmue experience)
Post by: Great Rumbler on June 16, 2015, 08:09:42 PM
But does it "ultimately allow" Shenmue III to get made ? There's no way this game costs 2 million and no way this amout would be the do or die difference for a company like Sony.

If this was a sure bet, why did Sony wait 14 years? Why didn't Sega did it themselves?
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (Sony backed, full Shenmue experience)
Post by: Himu on June 16, 2015, 08:09:48 PM
No one said it will cost 2 million. They're prodding gamers for interest and talk where their money is to support a game that had its last release in 2002.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (Sony backed, full Shenmue experience)
Post by: VomKriege on June 16, 2015, 08:24:34 PM
If this was a sure bet, why did Sony wait 14 years? Why didn't Sega did it themselves?

Why didn't Sega do it themselves ? Because they were broke and Shenmue was a flop. Why didn't Sony pick it up before ? I dunno man, but the fact that Sega owns the licence probably averted anyone else from chipping in. Why do Sony pick it up now ? Probably because of opportunities.
I never said it was a sure bet. But risky projects were greenlighted before we invented crowdfunding, didn't they ? It is the job of companies like Sony to take some risks in backing products that they deem able to appeal to an audience, in the pursuit of profit. They have armies of people to try to assess what will please the public, they don't need Kickstarter for that... well, unless they want to dress it as some sort of grassroot movement and create some buzz before hand, with minimal commitment.

Not that I think that Yu Suzuki is a conman, but the KS page is really pretty barebones on the whole financial hubbub*. The stretch goal chart really does present it as if 2m is the base budget and 4m would be necessary to have a bigger village and 5x more minigames. As a slime appears said, it's a wee bit deceptive to my tastes.

* And well, for a project the size of Shenmue III (even if it only a fraction of II), I would also expect a much meatier presentation of the artistic outline of the project.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (Sony backed, full Shenmue experience)
Post by: Himu on June 16, 2015, 08:29:03 PM
Fucking. Gamers. :snoop

http://m.neogaf.com/showpost.php?p=168474718
http://neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=168462237&postcount=17

Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (Sony backed, full Shenmue experience)
Post by: Purrp Skirrp on June 16, 2015, 09:09:03 PM
Real talk, I never actually played Shenmue I/II so I can't hate.

Willing to try this if if it turns out decent.

Were the QTEs in the first two games done as result of hardware limitations, or were they a very deliberate design choice?

I'd rather they do away with them as I don't think I've ever enjoyed cinematic simon says. WOAT gameplay mechanic.

I loved Bully on PS2, more so than any GTA mainly cuz of the setting (Vice City a close 2nd). Would you say it shares similarities with Shenmue?

#positivity #jeffgirthmann #happy4himu :respect
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (Sony backed, full Shenmue experience)
Post by: Positive Touch on June 16, 2015, 09:15:52 PM
it was a deliberate decision. Shenmue coined the term qte, and while it wasn't the first game to have them, the way they were implemented is clearly what modern qtes copy.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (Sony backed, full Shenmue experience)
Post by: VomKriege on June 16, 2015, 09:18:54 PM
Quote
Were the QTEs in the first two games done as result of hardware limitations, or were they a very deliberate design choice?

Well, isn't everything a product of limitations ?
It was obviously a design choice though, because Shenmue was pretty intricate when it needed to be, the combat system is pretty much on par with Virtua Fighter translated to a TPS beat them all. QTE served the same purpose as they do today, modeling unorthodox interactions (for videogames anyway) to allow for the scope of activities present in the game. IIRC, QTE sequences are a rather minor part of the mechanics of the game.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (Sony backed, full Shenmue experience)
Post by: Trent Dole on June 16, 2015, 09:19:23 PM
Fuck anyone shitting on this. Shenmue fans have waited a long time. Just like Iga fucks have been. At least for my stupid obsessive niche we had some handheld games and the multiplayer thing. 'mue fans have had what, race a forklift in Sanic racing? You poor bastards. Savor this shit you guys.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (Sony backed, full Shenmue experience)
Post by: Himu on June 16, 2015, 09:29:06 PM
In Shenmue the QTE's a design principle. Shenmue doesn't have that many cutscenes. It isn't a game where you're going to be spending most of your time doing them.  It's not like modern games in that sense, and especially not like a Quantic Dream title.

Shenmue's QTE's really have not been topped in gaming. Shenmue at its heart is an adventure game. Hence the deliberate design choice to make the cinematics a bit more engaging.

The QTE's are mostly a way to lend to different types of scenarios. For example, in Shenmue II,  you get your bag stolen and find the kid who swiped it. If you complete the chase QTE successfully, you will end up here in a fight at the docks. If you fail the QTE, the game does not end. You must gather more information on where he went. So you'll find out he headed to an Eatery. Go there and you have a good ol' fashion kung fu movie teahouse fight. Fail the fight? There's no game over. You have to find a new way to find them. Shenmue is unique in that sometimes the overall game experience is different based on the player and their own route and it's really, really hard to see everything in one playthrough. QTE cutscenes are a way of masking the games more open-ended elements that help separate it from other games. By not making failure completely a bad thing, it allows for interesting situations.  Shenmue without QTE's isn't Shenmue. Unlike other games it does them in a really unique manner, one that games that ripped it off haven't caught up on.

I'd say Bully shares a lot of similarities with Shenmue 1: they're both character driven games that take place in small towns where people know each other. NPCs have their stories and everything, there's sometimes a daily schedule, you do menial tasks like going to class (Bully) or going to work (Shenmue), it has holidays, and a calendar as the months pass by. I'd say Bully took obvious inspiration from Shenmue 1. It took a lot of things from it and did their own thing.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (Sony backed, full Shenmue experience)
Post by: VomKriege on June 16, 2015, 09:30:50 PM
Bully shares a few passing similarities with Shenmue, more than GTA anyway. The gestion of time through out the day, mostly. Shenmue was pretty vast and open for its time, but its goal is more to imitate the life of a Japanese young adult and a small city (...within the confines of a martial arts revenge universe). Your character must go home for the night every day, and some interactions and setting will only be available at certains times and like Bully an overarching calendar and the seasons structures the different grand phases of the games. The narrative is more dirigist and you have an actual deadline / finite amount of time to reach the protagonist's goal.

Yakuza games are probably the ones closest to Shenmue.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (Sony backed, full Shenmue experience)
Post by: Himu on June 16, 2015, 09:36:50 PM
I never really connected the dots between Yakuza and Shenmue. I love both, but they're just completely different experiences. It's like comparing Dark Souls to Metroid because you unlock new abilities or keys or whatever to unlock new areas and can sequence break.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (Sony backed, full Shenmue experience)
Post by: VomKriege on June 16, 2015, 09:44:54 PM
Pseudo-open world games with an heavy emphasis on combat mechanics (something that is always simplistic in GTA's, while Shenmue is "Virtua Fighter RPG" and Yakuza a beat them all with open world bits in between fights), capturing a stereotypical flavor of Japanese life, drawing their inspiration from a certain genre of Asian / Japanese cinema (and I find that much more focused that what GTA does), with mini games (GTA I would qualify that as mostly side missions), made by Sega. But the difference is pretty substantial yeah. Yakuza seems a mash between some of Shenmue ideas infused back with some of the lessons of GTA.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (Sony backed, full Shenmue experience)
Post by: Great Rumbler on June 16, 2015, 09:47:39 PM
Fuck anyone shitting on this. Shenmue fans have waited a long time. Just like Iga fucks have been. At least for my stupid obsessive niche we had some handheld games and the multiplayer thing. 'mue fans have had what, race a forklift in Sanic racing? You poor bastards. Savor this shit you guys.

Yeah, I can't hate on this, because I had a similar reaction to isometric RPGs making a comeback.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (Sony backed, full Shenmue experience)
Post by: Kara on June 16, 2015, 09:48:16 PM
Fuck anyone shitting on this. Shenmue fans have waited a long time. Just like Iga fucks have been. At least for my stupid obsessive niche we had some handheld games and the multiplayer thing. 'mue fans have had what, race a forklift in Sanic racing? You poor bastards. Savor this shit you guys.

Love you breh. :tocry
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (Sony backed, full Shenmue experience)
Post by: Positive Touch on June 16, 2015, 09:55:05 PM
come on, it's not that hard to see. the both feature very detailed Japanese cities with lots and lots of minigames, distractions, and interactive shit. most of both series have you running around talking to people and investigating shit. biggest difference is that Shenmue focuses on all the little stuff, while Yakuza focuses on ass beating. they're not that different.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (Sony backed, full Shenmue experience)
Post by: Trent Dole on June 16, 2015, 09:59:09 PM
Shenmue and Yakuza are made by the same dev even. :-[
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (Sony backed, full Shenmue experience)
Post by: Purrp Skirrp on June 16, 2015, 10:02:02 PM
In Shenmue the QTE's a design principle. Shenmue doesn't have that many cutscenes. It isn't a game where you're going to be spending most of your time doing them.  It's not like modern games in that sense, and especially not like a Quantic Dream title.

Shenmue's QTE's really have not been topped in gaming. Shenmue at its heart is an adventure game. Hence the deliberate design choice to make the cinematics a bit more engaging.

The QTE's are mostly a way to lend to different types of scenarios. For example, in Shenmue II,  you get your bag stolen and find the kid who swiped it. If you complete the chase QTE successfully, you will end up here in a fight at the docks. If you fail the QTE, the game does not end. You must gather more information on where he went. So you'll find out he headed to an Eatery. Go there and you have a good ol' fashion kung fu movie teahouse fight. Fail the fight? There's no game over. You have to find a new way to find them. Shenmue is unique in that sometimes the overall game experience is different based on the player and their own route and it's really, really hard to see everything in one playthrough. QTE cutscenes are a way of masking the games more open-ended elements that help separate it from other games. By not making failure completely a bad thing, it allows for interesting situations.  Shenmue without QTE's isn't Shenmue. Unlike other games it does them in a really unique manner, one that games that ripped it off haven't caught up on.

I'd say Bully shares a lot of similarities with Shenmue 1: they're both character driven games that take place in small towns where people know each other. NPCs have their stories and everything, there's sometimes a daily schedule, you do menial tasks like going to class (Bully) or going to work (Shenmue), it has holidays, and a calendar as the months pass by. I'd say Bully took obvious inspiration from Shenmue 1. It took a lot of things from it and did their own thing.

Sounds cool actually.

I want to try out Sleeping Dogs too, heard some good things about it and that it shares similarities with Bully.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (Sony backed, full Shenmue experience)
Post by: Himu on June 16, 2015, 10:10:47 PM
Shenmue is not combat heavy.

That's the largest difference. Shenmue 1 has maybe 10 fights. Yakuza 3 by the end of my playthrough I had recorded about 500 fights total, I don't remember. Yakuza is about buying weapons and finding cool ways to use them to see kick ass heat animations. Shenmue is about exploration and investigation. Yakuza has random battles. Shenmue only has battles as directed by the story. Yakuza has a leveling system and learn new moves through leveling up like in an rpg. In Shenmue you buy moves or you are taught them if you choose and there's no leveling system beyond mastering move power.

Shenmue is an adventure game with action elements. Yakuza is about the action part of action adventure first and foremost.

Comparing Shenmue and Yakuza is pretty fucking stupid in every sense of the word. If you find any similarities between how they play, you have literally only concentrated on the superficial. If you think they are at all similar, I don't think you've put any significant time into either.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (Sony backed, full Shenmue experience)
Post by: Positive Touch on June 16, 2015, 10:37:08 PM
look at your third paragraph and realize you just said the same thing I did
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (Sony backed, full Shenmue experience)
Post by: Mr. Nobody on June 16, 2015, 10:42:08 PM
come on, it's not that hard to see. the both feature very detailed Japanese cities with lots and lots of minigames, distractions, and interactive shit. most of both series have you running around talking to people and investigating shit. biggest difference is that Shenmue focuses on all the little stuff, while Yakuza focuses on ass beating. they're not that different.

Himu's in denial is all  :smug
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (Sony backed, full Shenmue experience)
Post by: Positive Touch on June 16, 2015, 10:50:42 PM
the masses spoke and they chose Yakuza
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (Sony backed, full Shenmue experience)
Post by: Himu on June 16, 2015, 10:59:48 PM
I'm not sure why people bring up yakuza to troll me as if I didn't make gafs Yakuza 1 and 2 Op's. Real talk, I love both series but I honestly don't give a shit about comparing them. For me it's like comparing Tony Hawk to Jet Set Radio. Love both, enjoy both. :yeshrug Been saying it for nearly ten years, yet people never change their tune. And bringing up Yakuza and masses is laughable. Yakuza 1 was a complete bomb, and :rofl at Yakuza 2 sales. I bet Shenmue 1 sold better worldwide than all of the Yakuza games released in America put together. People begged for Yakuza 5 for years and Yakuza 0  and  Isshin being released in English isn't certain. Comparing two franchises no one gives a fuck about, and yet I highly doubt Yakuza fans in the west would pool 2.5 million in less than 24 hours.

It is what it is.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (Sony backed, full Shenmue experience)
Post by: Positive Touch on June 16, 2015, 11:15:25 PM
u mad
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (Sony backed, full Shenmue experience)
Post by: The Legend of Sunblade on June 16, 2015, 11:22:46 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/7tLRvNs.png)

https://twitter.com/aevanko/status/611010117958381568
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (Sony backed, full Shenmue experience)
Post by: Kara on June 16, 2015, 11:26:33 PM
Stay #positive, Himu. Want to play a game of lucky hit?
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (Sony backed, full Shenmue experience)
Post by: Kara on June 16, 2015, 11:32:06 PM
We made the Beeb. :lawd

http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-33144515

Should hit 3 million by tomorrow. That's almost as many dollars as Lunar has ports.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (Sony backed, full Shenmue experience)
Post by: Himu on June 16, 2015, 11:35:59 PM
Lucky Hit sucks! Darts :punch

Sega AM2 reunion :rejoice

Vularai shade :lawd
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (Sony backed, full Shenmue experience)
Post by: Positive Touch on June 16, 2015, 11:43:34 PM
both of you are going to hell
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (Sony backed, full Shenmue experience)
Post by: Van Cruncheon on June 17, 2015, 12:08:54 AM
:cody
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (Sony backed, full Shenmue experience)
Post by: Lucretius on June 17, 2015, 12:15:55 AM
Decided to fire up the old Dreamcast and play some Shenmue since there's nothing really to do in FFXIV until Heavensward.
Those tank controls.     :-\
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (Sony backed, full Shenmue experience)
Post by: Kara on June 17, 2015, 12:43:16 AM
both of you are going to hell

my masterpiece is waiting for the end of e3 8)
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (Sony backed, full Shenmue experience)
Post by: Himu on June 17, 2015, 04:24:50 AM
Decided to fire up the old Dreamcast and play some Shenmue since there's nothing really to do in FFXIV until Heavensward.
Those tank controls.     :-\

They take getting used to for sure, but they're pretty manageable, much better tank controls than other franchises at the time like Resident Evil.

Tips:

- Shenmue should be relaxing. Don't fight the controls.
- Try playing one handed for optimal relaxation mode.
- Inside interiors do not run unless you're going down a straight path, such as Hazuki house in the hallway that has Iwao's office/the family alter/ bath room. You don't run around corners in interiors because you will get caught sides. Use d-pad inside interiors for the most part only. If you're going to run, just pump the run button for a few seconds, don't hold it.
- Outside, there's really no reason to use d-pad beyond steering and adjusting Ryo. Running is all you kinda need to do. Generally, you hold run button and then hold left or right depending on the direction you want to go.
- Try this: in Yamanose/Sakuragaoka, try holding the run button at all times while pressing d-pad for steering. This will give you good practice at steering. Try this one handed.
- When trying to examine, zoom with right trigger and move the analog stick to the top most object, then cycle through objects with d-pad.

When you have the controls down, it's pretty much the most relaxing game ever. Y2Kev and I used to talk about this a lot in relation to the controls and how you can play one handed.

I made this video on how to control Ryo in Shenmue II a long time ago. Of course, Shenmue II has analog non-tank controls which I also show later in the video, so it's not really necessary to use in relation to Shenmue II, but definitely helpful for people who want to play 1 and are having a rough go of it. Notice I do everything I told you to do in this video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmvP_katqa0

Don't fight the controls. Like the games themselves, just let it flow, friend. Don't fight it or put expectations on top of it. I am absolutely sorry for tapping to the music in this video, it is habitual. :lol :brazilcry :expert

Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (Sony backed, full Shenmue experience)
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on June 17, 2015, 06:55:35 AM
Sony Japans involvement is a recipe for success

Yu Suzuki + team that is still making the Last Guardian =  :pimp

Looking forward to playing this

spoiler (click to show/hide)
in 2023 on my iphone
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Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (Sony backed, full Shenmue experience)
Post by: Lucretius on June 17, 2015, 09:11:21 AM
Yeah, I've got the controls down.  I played I and II on Dreamcast back when they were released.  I actually have two copies of the PAL version of Shenmue II for some reason.  I still think the controls are suboptimal, but they certainly require you to chill the fuck out and take your time.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (Sony backed, full Shenmue experience)
Post by: Himu on June 17, 2015, 09:21:54 AM
They're definitely not optimal. When I first played Shenmue, Christ my experience controlling it was horrific. But over time I learned to chill and embrace the game, which I feel ties in with the games design, which is essentially "chill the fuck out". Even the story is like "you are obsessed with revenge, chill the fuck out". :lol Which I always felt was an interesting contrast. Either way, that video is mostly for people who are interested in playing 1 for the first time. In II, the first thing I do is turn on analog controls :lol
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (Sony backed, full Shenmue experience)
Post by: a slime appears on June 17, 2015, 09:52:44 AM
Fuck anyone shitting on this. Shenmue fans have waited a long time. Just like Iga fucks have been. At least for my stupid obsessive niche we had some handheld games and the multiplayer thing. 'mue fans have had what, race a forklift in Sanic racing? You poor bastards. Savor this shit you guys.

Were you the dude crying in front of me at the Sony press conference? Or were you the insanely loud woman having convulsions a few rows behind me?

In all seriousness I get where you're coming from and I'll be there day 1 too but my beef is how the whole project got presented. If Sony wants to put out Shenmue, that's fantastic and more power to them, but don't go live on-stage and pretend you have nothing to do with a Kickstarter. Also don't set a false funding goal which would have never covered development costs and was just there to gauge consumer interest for what amounted to requiring the fan base to pay for a game in-full years ahead of release.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (Sony backed, full Shenmue experience)
Post by: Himu on June 17, 2015, 09:54:13 AM
They really shouldn't have revealed Sony is backing this so soon. Revealing that on day one of the thing was really fucking stupid.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (Sony backed, full Shenmue experience)
Post by: a slime appears on June 17, 2015, 09:56:46 AM
They really shouldn't have revealed Sony is backing this so soon. Revealing that on day one of the thing was really fucking stupid.

It really soured the whole thing. Fans/Media ate that shit up, like they always do, but most professionals I've talked to about this were really down on how sleazy the whole thing came across. Industry buzz on this last night was not good.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (Sony backed, full Shenmue experience)
Post by: Kara on June 17, 2015, 10:00:08 AM
This whole industry is sleazy from production to release, and I see this sort of thing as the natural progression from preordering through pawn shops.

I don't care what industry buzz is. We made the Beeb. :rejoice
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (Sony backed, full Shenmue experience)
Post by: Himu on June 17, 2015, 10:02:03 AM
I really have no problem with kickstarter being a new form of Internet petition.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (Sony backed, full Shenmue experience)
Post by: Himu on June 17, 2015, 10:04:07 AM
But also, Shenmue and its fans trolling the industry and not vice versa?

:rejoice

Full. Fucking. Circle
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (Sony backed, full Shenmue experience)
Post by: a slime appears on June 17, 2015, 10:06:30 AM
It's funny seeing both sides of the coin on events like these. Completely different reactions based on insight into the process.

I just hope thy build a good team and this sees release before the console generation is out.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (Sony backed, full Shenmue experience)
Post by: Kara on June 17, 2015, 10:17:04 AM
lol I work with legitimately sleazy businesses, give the ********INSIDER INFO******** thing a rest.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (Sony backed, full Shenmue experience)
Post by: Himu on June 17, 2015, 10:23:35 AM
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No because it's not coming to the $500 box of metal and plastic that I'm emotionally invested in.

This game would not even exist right now without Sony. Every other Publisher including MS had 14 years to pick this game up but they all steered clear of it. Sony gives it the green light and for doing so they're now the scum of the Earth. This E3 has brought out the salt fersure. But I guess that's what happens when megatons go off. They leave trails of salt in their wake.

http://neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=168610048&postcount=3230

:rejoice

Make em cry, Shenmue :rofl

I am REALLY enjoying this. This is for that AWFUL GDC Q&A, assholes. Fuck "the industry".
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (Sony backed, full Shenmue experience)
Post by: nachobro on June 17, 2015, 11:14:43 AM
I'll admit it's a little weird that there's no physical PS4 version but eh, still getting the game and it'll be physical on PC. So that's good enough for me.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (Sony backed, full Shenmue experience)
Post by: Himu on June 17, 2015, 11:15:55 AM
They said that there's no physical ps4 version from the Kickstarter. That doesn't mean Sony won't release a physical ps4 version.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (Sony backed, full Shenmue experience)
Post by: nachobro on June 17, 2015, 11:21:23 AM
I guess that's fine. But I'm not sure if I'll want to buy another copy of the game after I've spent $185 on the game and extra stuff.

But I probably will anyway lol
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (Sony backed, full Shenmue experience)
Post by: Positive Touch on June 17, 2015, 11:27:15 AM
This whole industry is sleazy from production to release, and I see this sort of thing as the natural progression from preordering through pawn shops.

yeah, again I don't see what the problem is. the people paying in to Kickstarter are buying actual items in addition to the game. and fuck, if a few people wanted to pay a couple thousand solely for a copy of the game, you know damn well plenty of people would do just that. no one is being robbed, no one is being cheated. selling off premium packages to gauge consumer interest is not scummy.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (Sony backed, full Shenmue experience)
Post by: Lucretius on June 17, 2015, 12:01:03 PM
I predict a physical PS4 version will happen.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (Sony backed, full Shenmue experience)
Post by: Tasty on June 17, 2015, 12:19:33 PM
They really shouldn't have revealed Sony is backing this so soon. Revealing that on day one of the thing was really fucking stupid.

Transparency is good, whether we like the truth or not.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (Sony backed, full Shenmue experience)
Post by: Human Snorenado on June 17, 2015, 12:26:34 PM
I don't have a problem with how the game came to be.

I just have a problem that it will one day exist.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (Sony backed, full Shenmue experience)
Post by: Himu on June 17, 2015, 12:33:57 PM
They really shouldn't have revealed Sony is backing this so soon. Revealing that on day one of the thing was really fucking stupid.

Transparency is good, whether we like the truth or not.

It was very transparent. They confirmed it in less than 24 hours after the initial announcement. :wtf Transparency is fine, but if you make the message confusing, you hurt the potential funds of the project.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (Sony backed, full Shenmue experience)
Post by: Himu on June 17, 2015, 12:34:43 PM
I guess that's fine. But I'm not sure if I'll want to buy another copy of the game after I've spent $185 on the game and extra stuff.

But I probably will anyway lol

They said there's no physical ps4 version for the Kickstarter. That doesn't mean there's no retail PS4 version, especially with Sony now backing it.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (Sony backed, full Shenmue experience)
Post by: Himu on June 17, 2015, 02:01:14 PM
http://www.polygon.com/2015/6/17/8795017/shenmue-on-a-budget
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (Sony backed, full Shenmue experience)
Post by: VomKriege on June 17, 2015, 02:24:44 PM
Now that I vented my rightful outrage yesterday...
The KS money will be pocketed by YS and they may actually need it to start working, as they say. Either to pay a licensing fee to Sega, or hire a team to work on pre-production, etc...

The fact the game is not exclusive to PS4 probably means that Sony is only one of several partners of YS in the financing. Well, by definition even if they don't put a single dollar in the thing, Sega has de facto some say in the matter.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (Sony backed, full Shenmue experience)
Post by: Himu on June 17, 2015, 02:35:02 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/2Ubs3iZ.png)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CHtSS61UEAA-R2N.jpg)
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (Sony backed, full Shenmue experience)
Post by: Tasty on June 17, 2015, 02:53:05 PM
:dead
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (Sony backed, full Shenmue experience)
Post by: Himu on June 17, 2015, 02:53:24 PM
VULARAI RYO IS LEAVING THE CAVE

Quote
Interesting infos from interview :

- The story begins directly where Shenmue II ended
- May have arcade games (it's a kickstarter stretch goal)
- New gameplay features : retrieve fighting skills scrolls, part of fighting system, can be unlocked in mini-games, gambling, side quests. The scrolls will unlock super moves and increase Ryo's skills.
- Good relationships between Sega and Yu Suzuki. Sega gave all elements from Shenmue 1 and 2 that Yu Suzuki need for Shenmue 3
- Cédric Biscay is in charge of PC version, and to find funds
- We will get new infos february 27, at "MAGIC " convention in Monaco
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (Sony backed, full Shenmue experience)
Post by: tiesto on June 17, 2015, 04:00:37 PM
So now here is where I turn in my former SEGA fanboy badge... I have yet to play Shenmue 2. I own a copy for the Xbox but want to know the best way to play it.

If I played the Xbox one, it would be on the 360 since my Xbox isn't hooked up. Dunno how this game runs on 360.

I would have to procure the Euro DC one, which might be a few bucks (dunno what prices are like on this).

What do you guys think? What's the ideal way to play?
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (Sony backed, full Shenmue experience)
Post by: VomKriege on June 17, 2015, 04:05:01 PM
The Shenmue 2 Euro DC release was already a pain to find a few months in at the time. Prices are high, all the more since the announcement...
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (Sony backed, full Shenmue experience)
Post by: studyguy on June 17, 2015, 04:16:20 PM
Shenmue I&II will drop on steam or some shit in short order. Count on it.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (Sony backed, full Shenmue experience)
Post by: Himu on June 17, 2015, 04:17:34 PM
So now here is where I turn in my former SEGA fanboy badge... I have yet to play Shenmue 2. I own a copy for the Xbox but want to know the best way to play it.

If I played the Xbox one, it would be on the 360 since my Xbox isn't hooked up. Dunno how this game runs on 360.

I would have to procure the Euro DC one, which might be a few bucks (dunno what prices are like on this).

What do you guys think? What's the ideal way to play?

Dreamcast is the ideal version. However, it makes file transfer near impossible now since DC online is dead so you'll be starting over with 0 capsules and default moves. However, if you play it emulated, you can file transfer.

It's still the ideal version. It has Japanese voice track on DC, and while the game takes places in China, the Japanese voice track treats the subject matter more seriously and the voice acting is much more professional and of quality. It really helps you buy into the story more despite not being the actual language that should be spoken, which leads to greater immersion.

Shenmue IIx on Xbox is meh. They added bloom lighting with greatly takes away from the more realistic architecture and lighting. It greatly dampers the visuals. They added a motion blur during fights and it looks awful. Loading and some textures are better, but not much else. The dub is awful. It's not hilarious and charming like Shenmue 1's English dub, but it lacks the quality and emotional gravitas of the Japanese voice acting. It just sucks ass. However, IIx? It's still the easiest way to play it in right now if you're American if you're not privy to emulating.

The good news? IIx looks and runs fantastic on 360. The 360 glitches the game so you don't get the stupid motion blur or shitty bloom lighting. It looks just like the DC version. So this "glitch" is a vast improvement. Sometimes the music fucks up in the 360 version but it's not that bad. If you don't mind the dub, and it's not COMPLETELY awful for the main characters, it's worth picking up if you play it on 360. It looks BEAUTIFUL on 360 on hdtv.

IIx also added a really fun mini game where you can take photos. There's a mini game where you have to fill in an album book and find every single npc that it requests and snap a photo. Get all the photos unlocks comics that tell bonus story (the ship ride over to HK, what happened with Xiuying's brother;etc). It's easily the best addition that wasn't in DC II, but it's just bonus spice.

Either way is a good route. Shenmue II is my favorite game and one of the greatest sequels I have ever played. It improves on almost every element of the original while adding its own flair to make it feel like it is it's own distinct game.

Fucking GOAT.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0Izd2f6k2I
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (Sony backed, full Shenmue experience)
Post by: Himu on June 17, 2015, 04:23:07 PM
Shenmue I&II will drop on steam or some shit in short order. Count on it.

It's not a guarantee because the games have a licensed engine and this means money. Money is not something Sega is willing to spend on Shenmue. However if they license it out to YS, they have add this as a KS goal.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (Sony backed, full Shenmue experience)
Post by: studyguy on June 17, 2015, 04:27:29 PM
Are they even doing goals? I don't think they are.
Anyway, whoever owns the license will get it out there. I have faith, no one's about to leave that money on the table.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (Sony backed, full Shenmue experience)
Post by: Himu on June 17, 2015, 04:28:56 PM
They are not goals yet, but it's pretty clear from Yu's own words that they are going to have more stretch goals.

Maybe this clue us in on if we will see an HD re-release:

http://kotaku.com/getting-the-rights-to-shenmue-was-easier-than-you-d-thi-1712037863
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (Sony backed, full Shenmue experience)
Post by: thisismyusername on June 17, 2015, 04:47:42 PM
VULARAI RYO IS LEAVING THE CAVE

Quote
Interesting infos from interview :

- The story begins directly where Shenmue II ended
- May have arcade games (it's a kickstarter stretch goal)
- New gameplay features : retrieve fighting skills scrolls, part of fighting system, can be unlocked in mini-games, gambling, side quests. The scrolls will unlock super moves and increase Ryo's skills.
- Good relationships between Sega and Yu Suzuki. Sega gave all elements from Shenmue 1 and 2 that Yu Suzuki need for Shenmue 3
- Cédric Biscay is in charge of PC version, and to find funds
- We will get new infos february 27, at "MAGIC " convention in Monaco

The only thing Sega needs to do is allow them to re-release Shenmue 1/2 on Steam/consoles. That rumored ParterNET X-box 360 port of Shenmue 1(and 2?) already means most of the work was done by Sega. Release it while the iron is hot, bbz.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (Sony backed, full Shenmue experience)
Post by: Himu on June 17, 2015, 05:00:44 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/mab13Du.png)

gamers :rofl
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (Sony backed, full Shenmue experience)
Post by: VomKriege on June 17, 2015, 05:19:45 PM
Didn't JSR HD bomb ? Not sure new releases are worth the effort for Sega. And YS should focus on its current game instead of chasing two hares at once.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (Sony backed, full Shenmue experience)
Post by: studyguy on June 17, 2015, 05:20:51 PM
They did JSR in HD?
That game needs a new title all together, not a re-release.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (Sony backed, full Shenmue experience)
Post by: Himu on June 17, 2015, 05:22:09 PM
They didn't go with it precisely because re-releases like Space Channel 5 and JSR HD bombed.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (Sony backed, full Shenmue experience)
Post by: cool breeze on June 17, 2015, 05:25:31 PM
how they handle arcade games should be interesting to see.  without sega it can be good and bad.  maybe they can get namco and capcom games in there now.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (Sony backed, full Shenmue experience)
Post by: Himu on June 17, 2015, 05:28:58 PM
how they handle arcade games should be interesting to see.  without sega it can be good and bad.  maybe they can get namco and capcom games in there now.

Yu is saying arcade machines will be a stretch goal. Also, he says Sega are letting him use anything from 1&2 development so that may include arcade machines.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (Sony backed, full Shenmue experience)
Post by: VomKriege on June 17, 2015, 05:42:47 PM
They did JSR in HD?
That game needs a new title all together, not a re-release.

Two or three years ago.
Had fun revisiting the game and discovering the US levels (bit of a nice surprise, wasn't expecting it at all) and the horrible framerate in that park section. Controls are as stiff as on the DC (i like it though) and some parts didn't age well.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (Sony backed, full Shenmue experience)
Post by: Himu on June 17, 2015, 05:56:26 PM
I never had a framerate drop in JSR HD. 60 FPS JSR :rejoice No frame rate drops in Explosion!
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (Sony backed, full Shenmue experience)
Post by: VomKriege on June 17, 2015, 06:09:29 PM
I never had a framerate drop in JSR HD. 60 FPS JSR :rejoice No frame rate drops in Explosion!

Isn't the game locked ar 30fps because of the original engine ?
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (Sony backed, full Shenmue experience)
Post by: Himu on June 17, 2015, 06:23:41 PM
Fuck no. Steam version is 60.


Explosion! on DC a frame rate middle finger due to the amount of explosions. Shit is smooth as butter. JSR HD on Steam has not one frame rate dip.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (Sony backed, full Shenmue experience)
Post by: thisismyusername on June 17, 2015, 06:31:55 PM
Have PC and all emulated consoles and not care :rejoice

FTFY. :pimp
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (Sony backed, full Shenmue experience)
Post by: Himu on June 17, 2015, 07:31:30 PM
Yeah, so I tried out the Undub. I wanted to show my experience with it.

This is in NullDC.

https://youtu.be/omQuHZIncVs

A quick tour of Dobuita with the Undub version. This shows its many kinks and glitches that this undub has. The Japanese version has different code for voices, and the curator for this undub managed to combine them. For the most part, it's really good and works as intended, but there are many times when you can simply tell that the English dub doesn't match the dialogue or took liberties with the script out of necessity which creates awkward moments since this is the Japanese voices with the English script. So some characters lines stall, sometimes they really short in Japanese and this makes the English line really short in terms of duration. Occasionally, characters appear to be talking when there isn't even any dialogue. Still, for what it is, it's a suitable alternative to the dub, and wonderful practice if you are a student of the Japanese language.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (Sony backed, full Shenmue experience)
Post by: nachobro on June 17, 2015, 07:32:33 PM
I guess that's fine. But I'm not sure if I'll want to buy another copy of the game after I've spent $185 on the game and extra stuff.

But I probably will anyway lol

They said there's no physical ps4 version for the Kickstarter. That doesn't mean there's no retail PS4 version, especially with Sony now backing it.
I understand that. That doesn't mean I can't be annoyed as a backer of the kickstarter.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (Sony backed, full Shenmue experience)
Post by: Lucretius on June 17, 2015, 07:35:59 PM
My gaming setup right now.
Yes, that's two copies of Shenmue II.

(http://i.imgur.com/kOssWHP.jpg)
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (Sony backed, full Shenmue experience)
Post by: Himu on June 17, 2015, 07:44:19 PM
Let me buy one of those Shenmue II EU's. Seriously. I had to sell mine for cash a while back and now I'm fucked because of the price increase. Selling your favorite game because you need the dough. :( Please.

The JP voice acting is so good in 1.

https://youtu.be/fmk85tCJeRE
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (Sony backed, full Shenmue experience)
Post by: Lucretius on June 17, 2015, 07:56:59 PM
holy crap, it's all but disappeared on eBay and Amazon marketplace now.  Looks like it's tripled in price since the KS announcement.
I'm probably going to hold onto my extra copy for now.

Have you considered burning an ISO?  I think even most unmodded Dreamcasts can play burned discs.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (Sony backed, full Shenmue experience)
Post by: Himu on June 17, 2015, 08:02:17 PM
I have to get a new Cast first, but yeah, I've done it before. Still got my Gameshark Lite over here....
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (Sony backed, full Shenmue experience)
Post by: nachobro on June 17, 2015, 08:04:47 PM
Good lord at those prices. Glad I've already got a copy of 1 and 2. Wish I had extra now  :lol
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (Sony backed, full Shenmue experience)
Post by: Lucretius on June 17, 2015, 08:05:50 PM
I might trade it for a decent copy of Panzer Dragoon Saga :)
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (Sony backed, full Shenmue experience)
Post by: Rufus on June 17, 2015, 08:08:04 PM
I think even my beat up copy of 2 is worth some serious moolah. Nice. :win
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (Sony backed, full Shenmue experience)
Post by: nachobro on June 17, 2015, 08:09:56 PM
On the plus side, 3 probably won't be out for a year or two. Plenty of time for the price to drop down
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (Sony backed, full Shenmue experience)
Post by: Lucretius on June 17, 2015, 08:12:54 PM
Judging by the Amazon.co.uk marketplace prices, those three copies of Shenmue I'm holding onto are worth a cool grand here in the US.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (Sony backed, full Shenmue experience)
Post by: Himu on June 17, 2015, 08:25:11 PM
Yeah I checked the co.uk because that's where I originally bought it and :suicide
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (Sony backed, full Shenmue experience)
Post by: nachobro on June 17, 2015, 08:44:29 PM
Time to learn Japanese. All the JP copies are half or less of the price of the EU ones.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (Sony backed, full Shenmue experience)
Post by: Himu on June 17, 2015, 08:50:20 PM
Yeah I'm thinking of just going with the JP versions. Playing Shenmue in Japanese with JP subs :drool
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (Sony backed, full Shenmue experience)
Post by: Lucretius on June 17, 2015, 09:03:29 PM
Xbox version isn't a bad way to go. Not ideal but certainly cheaper.
Good thing about playing the Japanese dreamcast version is they didn't censor the transwoman. In the original version Yuan is a male who dresses as a woman. The European version rerecorded the Japanese dialogue to make her actually female.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (Sony backed, full Shenmue experience)
Post by: Himu on June 17, 2015, 09:06:27 PM
Yeah, I've got the Xbox version sitting over here. In hindsight I should have sold that one. If I want to play II though, I don't really need a physical version. NullDC emulates it perfectly.

I upgraded my shit.

(http://i.imgur.com/mAGTb79.png)

I need that trial.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (Sony backed, full Shenmue experience)
Post by: a slime appears on June 17, 2015, 09:31:13 PM
lol I work with legitimately sleazy businesses, give the ********INSIDER INFO******** thing a rest.

:lol

Relax, my dude!
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (Sony backed, full Shenmue experience)
Post by: nachobro on June 17, 2015, 10:52:01 PM
http://www.polygon.com/2015/6/17/8798203/shenmue-kickstarter-budget-sony
In other news, Kuchera remains an idiot.

Damn people are salty as hell over this game.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (Sony backed, full Shenmue experience)
Post by: Himu on June 17, 2015, 11:06:05 PM
It's amazing how Shenmue fans have taken over a decade of jokes, memes, and more but a giant bulk of the community just can't handle this.

(http://cdn2.kevinmd.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/salt_0310.jpg)

They need laughter in their lives.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4IXbDwuKT0
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (Sony backed, full Shenmue experience)
Post by: VomKriege on June 18, 2015, 02:48:53 AM
Fuck no. Steam version is 60.

Nah dawg, I just checked and apart from the menus, the game is capped at 30fps and it's hardcoded in the original engine according to all the discussions I read in the last years (it's a recurring point of contention (http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=115264876&postcount=1749)). You can still find people moaning about it on Steam forum as recently as 4 days ago (http://steamcommunity.com/app/205950/discussions/0/611701999531292715/). I'm pretty confident that if you run a FPS counter ingame you'll see this.

Not that the game needs to run in 60fps anyway. Stable 30 is already an improvement from the original.

EDIT : Some guy apparently working at Blit Software which did the "HD" port says the same thing (http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=42661723&postcount=1523).
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (Sony backed, full Shenmue experience)
Post by: milchs evil twin on June 18, 2015, 08:02:00 AM
Shit, I have PAL DC versions of Shenmue I/II and the XBOX version of 2. Not really mint condition, but even then it looks like I could make some money.

:(

Too bad I want to own them forever.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (Sony backed, full Shenmue experience)
Post by: Himu on June 18, 2015, 09:53:15 AM
Thanks for the clarification on jsr. I thought it was advertised as having 60 fps.

:bow

CLIFFY

https://mobile.twitter.com/therealcliffyb/status/610654059591176192

Shenmue games are now on twitch. What does this mean?

(http://i.imgur.com/AZvPC8s.png)
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (Sony backed, full Shenmue experience)
Post by: Rufus on June 18, 2015, 10:19:31 AM
Streamers lining up to do series re-caps. Happens a lot these days. There's an uptick of Fallout streams right now, too. Usually this starts closer to release, but I imagine a lot of teenagers tune in to see what this Shenmue thing is about.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (Sony backed, full Shenmue experience)
Post by: Himu on June 18, 2015, 10:34:16 AM
I'm going to be doing a twitch then. How do I stream? Is it resource extensive?
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (Sony backed, full Shenmue experience)
Post by: nachobro on June 18, 2015, 10:46:03 AM
It's very easy to do, though you do need a semi-decent CPU on whatever PC you use.

This guide is pretty helpful, the links at the bottom will show you how to get the software and how to set it up: http://help.twitch.tv/customer/portal/articles/792761-how-to-broadcast-pc-games

If you don't know anything about streaming, I recommend using Xsplit. However it does limit you to 30fps if you are using the free version. OBS is slightly harder to set up but you can stream at 60fps for free.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (Sony backed, full Shenmue experience)
Post by: Rufus on June 18, 2015, 11:23:11 AM
I am the wrong person to ask, but I'm gonna blab anyway~

Since you're probably going to play on an emulator you should be fine on that end. All you need for that is screen capturing software. OBS (https://obsproject.com/) is free and widely used. They also have a calculator (https://obsproject.com/estimator) online where you can see what quality you can go for depending on your CPU, type of game and your upload speed. Twitch will probably offer some advice there as well.

You definitely need to figure out how to read and interact with chat, since that's a big part of the appeal. A mic would be ideal for obvious reasons. Reading chat depends on screen real-estate. You want to avoid alt-tabbing to a browser for sure, as for how you do it is up to you. If you play in fullscreen you can put chat on your phone, but a second monitor would be ideal. Otherwise you can put the emulator window and chat side by side and only have OBS capture the emulator.

And that is the sum total of my streaming knowledge. :v
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (Sony backed, full Shenmue experience)
Post by: nachobro on June 18, 2015, 11:28:06 AM
If you do it with one monitor it isn't too hard. I've had to do it that way a few times. Run the emulator in a 720p window, popout twitch chat & put it next to that, use game capture to grab the emulator window (not screen capture) and you're good to go.

A mic would be best but not required. Plenty of people stream without a mic and do just fine, but it makes talking with chat easier since you don't have to stop playing to type a response.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (Sony backed, full Shenmue experience)
Post by: cool breeze on June 18, 2015, 12:45:05 PM
how they handle arcade games should be interesting to see.  without sega it can be good and bad.  maybe they can get namco and capcom games in there now.

Yu is saying arcade machines will be a stretch goal. Also, he says Sega are letting him use anything from 1&2 development so that may include arcade machines.

cool.

the other thing I'm wondering about is voice acting, and I totally understand if they can't afford multiple languages.  I'll probably end up playing shenmue 2 dreamcast to hear what the Japanese voice acting is like.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (Sony backed, full Shenmue experience)
Post by: nachobro on June 18, 2015, 12:49:07 PM
VF6 should be a stretch goal and it'll only be playable within Shenmue  :lol
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (Sony backed, full Shenmue experience)
Post by: Himu on June 18, 2015, 12:57:22 PM
3.2 million reached. Yu I doing an AMA tomorrow on reddit.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (Sony backed, full Shenmue experience)
Post by: Himu on June 18, 2015, 01:18:02 PM
I left this comment on the new update. :maf

Tried to be as nice and reasonable as possible. The marketing for this KS sucks.


Quote
The marketing for this KS is really bad, you can do better. The video tells nobody who doesn't know what Shenmue is anything about it or why it's special. The video, rather than recapping the story of a boy driven by anger and revenge as he goes to extremes to find his fathers killer on an epic coming of age Kung fu story, is about potential village expansions. But no, Yu talks about move scrolls instead. Rather than show Shenmue's legacy and how it has impacted modern games it foolishly assumes that new players know what Shenmue is when it has had a new 20 year absence from the market.

It has been coasting on the goodwill of Shenmue fans and the interest of non-fans. It needs more than that and to articulate why such a game would make Huber act like an excited child and end up grasping his co-workers hands in tears. It needs to show WHY it's so special to us so it can be passed on to a new generation. Tell new people about the story, tell them about the innovations that can still be seen today such as the cinematic cutscenes, attention to detail, weather effects, and QTE's.

Unveil more reward tiers. There's almost nothing between $500 tier and the $10,000 tier. You need to give more reasons to make people want to upgrade their tier. Please unveal the entire list of stretch goals so we know what we are dealing with.

How come Yu isn't going to every gaming news outlet and interviewing them on Shenmue III and why it's special? How many of them are in English? Please stop with the French stuff. The game will only be at Monaco? But not TGS or GDC or PAX? I realize that some of the developers are from France but France doesn't have a monopoly on Shenmue fans. Try marketing this in China, for instance.

The marketing for this KS can be better than this. Yu doing a Reddit AMA is a good place to start but you can do better than this. Take a look at the Bloodstained Kickstarter for an example on how to communicate with the fans and potential backers in a more transparent manner.

Thank you, looking forward to III.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (Sony backed, full Shenmue experience)
Post by: Mr. Nobody on June 18, 2015, 03:27:45 PM
Hm. I still have 1 but I sold 2 years ago  :-\

Ah well. If Sega/Sony have any sense, remasters/remakes of both are in the works.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (Sony backed, full Shenmue experience)
Post by: thisismyusername on June 18, 2015, 04:42:47 PM
Hm. I still have 1 but I sold 2 years ago  :-\

Ah well. If Sega/Sony have any sense, remasters/remakes of both are in the works.

There's always... piracy and emulation. :smug
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (Sony backed, full Shenmue experience)
Post by: Himu on June 18, 2015, 04:48:06 PM
Hm. I still have 1 but I sold 2 years ago  :-\

Ah well. If Sega/Sony have any sense, remasters/remakes of both are in the works.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yRp-DatyBJs

No excuse. :smug

Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (Sony backed, full Shenmue experience)
Post by: nachobro on June 18, 2015, 05:14:58 PM
There's always... piracy and emulation. :smug
:wag
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (Sony backed, full Shenmue experience)
Post by: VomKriege on June 18, 2015, 05:22:34 PM
I left this comment on the new update. :maf

Tried to be as nice and reasonable as possible. The marketing for this KS sucks.

I thought the same while watching some interview to a French outlet. The KS presention, on a whole, is not up to snuff for such an expensive and ambitious game, I find it vague and not professional enough. I worry that Yu is pandering too much to his devoted but sparse fans (in the grand scheme of things) which only will make harder to sell to non "hardcore gamer of the Dreamcast generation" an estranged, long-removed sequel reliant on former opuses. While Yu Suzuki is a formidable game designer, I'm not sure he can manage a company and a production with the same talent. I wouldn't be too surprised at that point that the production will be laborious or that the game could bomb hard. Not what I hope for, but possibilities nonetheless...
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (Sony backed, full Shenmue experience)
Post by: Himu on June 18, 2015, 05:32:56 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SB7A_YRsZ_U

I left this comment on the new update. :maf

Tried to be as nice and reasonable as possible. The marketing for this KS sucks.

I thought the same while watching some interview to a French outlet. The KS presention, on a whole, is not up to snuff for such an expensive and ambitious game, I find it vague and not professional enough. I worry that Yu is pandering too much to his devoted but sparse fans (in the grand scheme of things) which only will make harder to sell to non "hardcore gamer of the Dreamcast generation" an estranged, long-removed sequel reliant on former opuses. While Yu Suzuki is a formidable game designer, I'm not sure he can manage a company and a production with the same talent. I wouldn't be too surprised at that point that the production will be laborious or that the game could bomb hard. Not what I hope for, but possibilities nonetheless...

They need to fire Awesome Japan and hire the people that did Bloodstained. Apparently, Awesome Japan is the one handling the KS.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (Yu Suzuki Reddit AMA Friday)
Post by: Himu on June 18, 2015, 05:46:31 PM
Ryo's updated model in the latest Famitsu :lawd

(http://i.imgur.com/NndVN6m.jpg)

That's my stoic modern samurai :tocry

The fact they were able to do all of this with a prototype bodes well. I'm really hoping we get a hyper updated version of this in the end:

(http://www.shenmue-uk.com/ryoleavingdojo.jpg)
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (Sony backed, full Shenmue experience)
Post by: VomKriege on June 18, 2015, 05:59:35 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SB7A_YRsZ_U

Why would you film Yu Suzuki from the back ?
French gaming press  ::)
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (Yu Suzuki Reddit AMA Friday)
Post by: Himu on June 18, 2015, 06:01:16 PM
I know that some of the developers are French, but what's with all the French wank?

I left this comment on the new update. :maf

Tried to be as nice and reasonable as possible. The marketing for this KS sucks.

I thought the same while watching some interview to a French outlet. The KS presention, on a whole, is not up to snuff for such an expensive and ambitious game, I find it vague and not professional enough. I worry that Yu is pandering too much to his devoted but sparse fans (in the grand scheme of things) which only will make harder to sell to non "hardcore gamer of the Dreamcast generation" an estranged, long-removed sequel reliant on former opuses. While Yu Suzuki is a formidable game designer, I'm not sure he can manage a company and a production with the same talent. I wouldn't be too surprised at that point that the production will be laborious or that the game could bomb hard. Not what I hope for, but possibilities nonetheless...

I don't think it'll be laborious. I think they'll get maybe half the budget of Shenmue II, so about 20 million. What made Shenmue so expensive back then was that they were among the first to do it and were learning how to implement it. Never mind scrapping development on the Saturn, changing systems, and creating a new engine. When Shenmue 1 and 2 came out, there weren't really games similar to it. Now, there's an entire genre dedicated to it and almost everyone has an open-world now. This makes development a lot easier because the industry has now over a decade of resources and experience making these types of games. Never mind that they're using Unreal 4, which if I'm reading right, makes a lot of the things that made Shenmue 1 and 2 so hard to make easy and a natural part of the engine. It also helps that Yu has talked about the game being much smaller in scale to Shenmue II and closer to 1. Given that it is in rural China, expect there to be less npcs as well. Yu has flat out said that he is not sacrificing detail for size and scope like so many modern open-world games. He's trying to craft an intimate, smaller experience. I'd say if things go as planned, the game should be ready for release in summer or christmas 2017. There's no reason for this to be laborious given today's resources and game development, and since the story and all that is already done, all they have to do is just make it. Whether or not it will be a success is different, but I think a lot of gamers are looking for something different these days, and a lot of titles like The Walking Dead, Gone Home, Papers Please, Stanley Parable, and more have shown there is a large interest in alternative gaming, for which Shenmue constitutes. If anything, now is the right time for a new Shenmue due to today's gaming environment more thn it was in 1999. If they pull their cards right, this can be a big success. Not a CoD or GTA success, but do pretty good and fund Shenmue IV.

Famitsu article summary

Quote
- He noticed that fans were getting more and more despondent about the chances of a Shenmue 3 ever coming out, and being willing to settle for just about any format (novel, manga etc.) just to see the conclusion of the story, but he really wanted to make the sequel as a game even if it didn't have all the bells and whistles he'd like to put in it.
- He first learned about Kickstarter about 3 years ago through a fan who'd used it before, although it took a while before he decided that was really the way to go forward. Tried looking for a major company to partner with, but couldn't find one that met his criteria. Eventually, he decided Kickstarter was the best option.
- Sega readily allowed him to make the game, and SCE gave their support too (nothing specific here).
- It'll be out on PS4 and PC. No mention of other platforms, no mention of considering any other platforms.
- 2 million is the bare minimum for the game to exist, and if that was all they got, it would just be focused on the story. The more money it gets, the more of the things he wants to do will be possible.
- He wants to give the fans what they want as much as possible, asking for their opinions during development and incorporating those into the final game. Like if they have two ideas for a character, they might ask backers to vote on which they prefer.
- As far as money goes, he expects the game's investment will primarily come from individual backers, so he wants them all to be happy with the finished product. Doesn't sound like Sony and others are giving them all THAT much.
- The story will take place in Guilin, beginning immediately after 2's end. You'll be able to go around the town(s) in that area, back to the mountains, infiltrate the Chi You Men's Guilin branch, etc.
- Back when he made Shenmue 2, he was determined that Shenmue 3's focus would be making a deeper open world rather than a bigger one. Fewer characters means they can have more to say, they can have more complex AI, etc. The character Ryo will talk to the most in 3 is Shenhua, so he wants to develop her as much as possible, making it so that talking to her lots makes her behaviour towards him change, makes quests involving her proceed differently, etc.
- Not that any of this is to say it won't be an open world game. Stretch goals will determine how much the town(s) can be expanded (presumably this is referring to stretch goals like those we can already see, the 'other towns' in that video aren't addressed here.)

- QTEs were originally designed so that people who weren't very good at battles could still enjoy the game.
- He wants to make 'free battles' (which are likely to have their name changed) less about pressing buttons at the right time and more about making the right decisions.
- He also wants to make them less about practising and inputting commands and more centred around the Technique Scrolls, so obtaining and using those is enough to win battles. These Technique Scrolls will ideally connect a number of different elements in the game together in a natural way.
"Shenmue had a number of minigames, gambling spots etc. that you could spend time playing around in, but I wanted something that would connect all of them somehow. I mean, obviously you can obtain money through part-time jobs, use that in gambling to get more of it and then buy weapons...but not that kind of connection, a closer one. If we can meet a number of our stretch goals and make the open world elements more elaborate, I'm hoping to be able to connect these side elements together, centred around the scrolls.
- He's desperately trying to find some way to include forklifts in the game in a way that will make sense, because Shenmue fans seem to love them.
- He wanted to gather as many of the people who worked on the earlier games as possible because it'd be reassuring to fans. They're planning to publish staff comments from a number of figures working on the game, including the writer Masahiro Yoshimoto.
- He's asked about whether he has an idea in his head about what'll come after Shenmue 3's done (presumably 4, but it doesn't come out and say this). He says he does, but right now he's focused on working on Shenmue 3. Certainly doesn't sound like this game will be 'it' at any rate.
- As the Kickstarter page says, he's hoping the game will be ready to release at the end of 2017.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (Yu Suzuki Reddit AMA Friday)
Post by: VomKriege on June 18, 2015, 06:20:16 PM
Yeah as I said, my impressions are derived from the communication with the KS and everything : design may be may more focused in his head. I'm following from time to time the news about At the Gates, a crowdfunded 4x game by Jon Schafer (head design for Civ V) with his small company and the thing has been very long in the oven. It's just the reality of doing ambitious games with a small team and on a budget which seems to be what they are headed at, without the comfort of having a whole infrastructure with you like Suzuki had at Sega.

Also, the French guy with him is an unknown quantity to me. His somewhat nebulous professional activity is to be a middle man between Japan & France for business purposes. His company apparently seized some of the licencing rights for Tezuka characters, he's producing a Japanese movie,... I gather he bonded with Suzuki a few years back and he acts like a sort of press agent or something.

Anyway only time will tell.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (Yu Suzuki Reddit AMA Friday)
Post by: Himu on June 18, 2015, 06:33:30 PM
I wouldn't bank the games development based on the KS. The KS is handled by a company they hired called Awesome Japan.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (Yu Suzuki Reddit AMA Friday)
Post by: VomKriege on June 18, 2015, 06:36:27 PM
I wouldn't bank the games development based on the KS. The KS is handled by a company they hired called Awesome Japan.

Yeah I read that in your post earlier.
So on top of paying the KS commission, you also have to give them their cut ? Sounds  :derp but I guess it's a better deal than to pay 2 people to do it ?
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (Yu Suzuki Reddit AMA Friday)
Post by: nachobro on June 18, 2015, 06:36:42 PM
There you go, Himu. They added a $3000 tier to get a replica jacket
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (Yu Suzuki Reddit AMA Friday)
Post by: Himu on June 18, 2015, 06:48:09 PM
They need a 1000, 2000, and 5000 tier too but it's a good step in the right direction for people who have more money than me. :lol
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (Yu Suzuki Reddit AMA Friday)
Post by: Positive Touch on June 18, 2015, 06:49:48 PM
queen you know a guide that'll let me see as much as possible of s1 in a single playthru?
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (Yu Suzuki Reddit AMA Friday)
Post by: Himu on June 18, 2015, 06:56:51 PM
Sure. First step should always been buying Crawl Cyclone or whatever. It's a low kick sweep and THE move for using against Chai in the arcade on disc 2. You can beat him if you concentrate on practicing leg moves, but that one if probably the most important one.

If you want to see Ryo and Nozomi's Christmas scene, fail the Warehouse QTE and you'll repeat it every day until you pass it. Do it until like, the 23 or something. Take your time, you don't want to be on Disc 3 with a job at Christmas or New Years day because you will miss the scenes.

http://www.shenmue-uk.com/shenmue_uk_tips_s1.html

How are you playing it? Emulated? If so, I suggest playing the Eu version because when you play Eu II DC, you can transfer files. :)
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (Yu Suzuki Reddit AMA Friday)
Post by: Positive Touch on June 18, 2015, 07:06:34 PM
lol I didn't mean you had to type up a bunch of stuff for me but thx. I was about to dust off the old dc and play my copy.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (Yu Suzuki Reddit AMA Friday)
Post by: Himu on June 18, 2015, 07:07:38 PM
wtf server error
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (Yu Suzuki Reddit AMA Friday)
Post by: Himu on June 18, 2015, 07:10:56 PM
:lawd Enjoy! Shenmue is a great summer game. Not as good as it is as a winter game though :bow Click the link. It has more tips. I typed the Nozomi Xmas thing up because it's not on there for some reason and a lot of people miss it. Eri :punch

There's also the school girls thing. On disc 2 while at the docks for the first time, talk to uhhhh, I forgot her name but she's at the Hoku Hoku Lunchbox stand next to the soda machine near the New Warehouse district where you'll find Warehouse 8. Talk to her and she'll talk to you about her sister Mai. After that, you'll get to do some school girl punchin' even if it's a QTE.

Shenmue is chock full of secrets and stuff that it's hard for one list to have it all.

Edit: for further characterization on Ryo and Iwao on the first day only (they disappear after that), examine the carrots on the kitchen table, walk up the cherry blossom tree, and examine the Kanji display at the head of the dojo to get flashbacks.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (Yu Suzuki Reddit AMA Friday)
Post by: Positive Touch on June 18, 2015, 08:31:36 PM
god dammit how do I access the passport section I dug a fucking phone cord out of the basement for this
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (Yu Suzuki Reddit AMA Friday)
Post by: Himu on June 18, 2015, 08:36:17 PM
What do you want to use on the passport
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (Yu Suzuki Reddit AMA Friday)
Post by: Mr. Nobody on June 18, 2015, 08:43:24 PM
Haven't tried nullDC in a while but my computer is likely too flabby for it.  :-\

Handles PSX games like a champ with mednafen though  :hyper
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (Yu Suzuki Reddit AMA Friday)
Post by: Himu on June 18, 2015, 08:45:49 PM
My computer runs it great on Core 2 Duo. Have beaten both games on NullDC with it and it runs better than it does on DC. Has a few graphic glitches but no other issues.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (Yu Suzuki Reddit AMA Friday)
Post by: Positive Touch on June 18, 2015, 09:03:34 PM
What do you want to use on the passport

the nozomi section that had all the neat stuff
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (Yu Suzuki Reddit AMA Friday)
Post by: Himu on June 18, 2015, 09:16:40 PM
What do you want to use on the passport

the nozomi section that had all the neat stuff

Besides the profiles, which are all on Shenmue Dojo, it's only available in video form now.

http://youtu.be/-fmOSLFIvVo

I'm jealous because I never got to experience it. :(
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (Yu Suzuki Reddit AMA Friday)
Post by: Positive Touch on June 19, 2015, 01:04:42 AM
great job Sega on making most of that shit online for no reason. not having access to all that really sucks. I still had all my old prize cans stored on my memory card tho lol
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (Yu Suzuki Reddit AMA Friday)
Post by: Himu on June 19, 2015, 01:19:20 AM
great job Sega on making most of that shit online for no reason. not having access to all that really sucks. I still had all my old prize cans stored on my memory card tho lol

http://shenmuedojo.net/new/games/s1characters.html
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (Yu Suzuki Reddit AMA Friday)
Post by: Mr. Nobody on June 19, 2015, 02:14:50 AM
My computer runs it great on Core 2 Duo. Have beaten both games on NullDC with it and it runs better than it does on DC. Has a few graphic glitches but no other issues.

There's hope  :rejoice
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (Yu Suzuki Reddit AMA Friday)
Post by: Himu on June 19, 2015, 08:40:05 AM
Interview with the programmer Tak Hirai!

The website has all the cool stuff that should be on the KS page.  :-\ they even have a What's Shenmue history section.

http://shenmue.link/us-en/topics/#item25

Also, there needs to be clarification on the Sony front. They are not publishing it or fully backing it. They are giving it SOME funding. Shenmue III has a lot of investors apparently. This means that the majority of the budget will be gained from Kickstarter. :brazilcry Donate what you can!!!!
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (Yu Suzuki Reddit AMA Friday)
Post by: Himu on June 19, 2015, 09:01:55 AM
My computer runs it great on Core 2 Duo. Have beaten both games on NullDC with it and it runs better than it does on DC. Has a few graphic glitches but no other issues.

There's hope  :rejoice

If you're going for it, especially for II, get the optimized Shenmue Null DC version.

http://www.shenmuedojo.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=37&t=46995
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (Yu Suzuki Reddit AMA Friday)
Post by: Great Rumbler on June 19, 2015, 09:03:40 AM
The website has all the cool stuff that should be on the KS page.  :-\

They should be pushing out an update nearly every day, getting this information out to people through one centralized location. Apparently, they picked somebody to run the Kickstarter who has no idea  how to run a Kickstarter past setting up the initial project page.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (Yu Suzuki Reddit AMA Friday)
Post by: Himu on June 19, 2015, 09:17:49 AM
It's a great interview too. He goes over the development like how they had no reference point for making an open-world game and why making it was so difficult.

I'm going to bring up the bad KS updates on the AMA. Hopefully he answers. Eek! Yu Suzuki answering a question I ask?!
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (Yu Suzuki Reddit AMA Friday)
Post by: Great Rumbler on June 19, 2015, 09:35:04 AM
They haven't even posted an update to thank people for hitting the project goal.  :snoop
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (Yu Suzuki Reddit AMA Friday)
Post by: demi on June 19, 2015, 11:40:24 AM
Just saying I was there front and center when Shenmue 3 was announced and Himu wasnt.

True Shenmue fan right here

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Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (Yu Suzuki Reddit AMA Friday)
Post by: Positive Touch on June 19, 2015, 11:42:47 AM
I just remembered SHITMOO

legendary thread
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (Yu Suzuki Reddit AMA Friday)
Post by: nachobro on June 19, 2015, 11:42:47 AM
I get like two emails a day with updates. Surprised they aren't putting them on the site.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (Yu Suzuki Reddit AMA Friday)
Post by: Great Rumbler on June 19, 2015, 11:46:27 AM
moar like shit-moo

Shenmue 1 IS boring, and that's part of the novelty.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (Yu Suzuki Reddit AMA Friday)
Post by: Himu on June 19, 2015, 11:48:29 AM
moar like shit-moo

Shenmue 1 IS boring, and that's part of the novelty.

:yeshrug

Explains it better than I could.

http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/117856/Analysis_On_Shenmue__Dare_to_Be_Dull.php
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (Yu Suzuki Reddit AMA Friday)
Post by: Himu on June 19, 2015, 11:54:55 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=49&v=-dL198n2d0o

So YSnet is self publishing Shenmue III. It's completely indie. This worries me because it seems that most of the money will be made from KS, and I'm not sure that amount of money (and a liberal estimation for the max amount of money that will be made from the Kickstarter is around 6 million) is enough for a full Shenmue experience. It could very well be a Walking Dead situation where it's barebones and follows a linear structure, but that isn't Shenmue to me. Here's hoping it's more in line with past games in terms of overall experience. Doesn't seem like Sony is giving much.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (Yu Suzuki Reddit AMA Friday)
Post by: Himu on June 19, 2015, 01:22:58 PM
http://www.gameinformer.com/b/features/archive/2015/06/19/yu-suzuki-shenmue-iii-interview-e3-2015.aspx?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (Yu Suzuki Reddit AMA Friday)
Post by: VomKriege on June 19, 2015, 05:14:56 PM
I guess I should have gone with my first hunch : Sony is really doing all this on the cheapest way possible. All good for Sony astroturfers anyway.
This is why I would like those announcements to be worded more straightforwardly.

Sorry to have been a blowhard with this shit. Guess you should never reach conclusions in the heat of the moment...
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (Yu Suzuki Reddit AMA Friday)
Post by: Himu on June 19, 2015, 08:38:36 PM
You're not being a blowhard. It's been an emotional week for Shenmue fans!

Read the GI link? Maybe there's hope.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (Yu Suzuki Reddit AMA Friday)
Post by: Himu on June 19, 2015, 11:00:49 PM
You can laugh all you want! Never thought it was going to happen, and felt for a while that even if it did happen it wouldn't be too good, but right now I don't give a fuck. Positivity train! :rejoice
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (Yu Suzuki Reddit AMA Friday)
Post by: Himu on June 20, 2015, 02:53:27 AM
YU RESPONDED TO ME IN THE AMA :hyper :hyper :hyper

Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (Yu Suzuki Reddit AMA Friday)
Post by: Mr. Nobody on June 20, 2015, 02:58:27 AM
YU RESPONDED TO ME IN THE AMA :hyper :hyper :hyper

 :respect
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (Yu Suzuki Reddit AMA Friday)
Post by: VomKriege on June 20, 2015, 03:31:44 AM
YU RESPONDED TO ME IN THE AMA :hyper :hyper :hyper

- "Suzuki-san, what about ludonarrative dissonance in regards to Shenmue ?"
- "Shenmue was a mistake, it's nothing but trash."
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (Yu Suzuki Reddit AMA Friday)
Post by: Himu on June 20, 2015, 03:38:27 AM
Suzuki says that they need 10 million for a full open world of the previous games. I predict this KS may end with 6 million, but if they enable paypal donations and the ability to donate after the KS ends it will hit 10 million easily.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (Yu Suzuki Reddit AMA Friday)
Post by: Vertigo on June 20, 2015, 07:14:33 AM
I've put in for my digital copy, but I can't see this game living up to the older ones. Nostalgia is a son of a bitch.

I'm expecting a very clean, straightforward experience with a smidgen of the exploration the older games provided.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (Yu Suzuki Reddit AMA Friday)
Post by: Himu on June 20, 2015, 12:05:29 PM
I've put in for my digital copy, but I can't see this game living up to the older ones. Nostalgia is a son of a bitch.

I'm expecting a very clean, straightforward experience with a smidgen of the exploration the older games provided.

I refuse to play a water downed Heavy Rain esque Shenmue. Refuse.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (donate what you can! Most funds come from KS!)
Post by: VomKriege on June 20, 2015, 12:09:00 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5iQ2m_sEtuw
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (donate what you can! Most funds come from KS!)
Post by: Himu on June 20, 2015, 12:13:32 PM
The reddit AMA was amazing. At the end it had over 1600 comments, And Yu replied for at least 4-5 hours. He went completely out of the way to talk to us. I went to bed around your three but even by then it was still my favorite AMA!

Here's the QA. I'm so proud that Shenmue Dojo and I curated so many quality questions and we got pretty much all of them answered.

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How accurately will Shenmue III be compared to your original vision of the game or will there be major compromises?

YS: There are a total of 11 chapters that make up the whole story. Over the past 14 years I originally planned for there to 4 or five games to the series. If at all possible, I would still like to realize the full story of 11 chapters.

Will Shenmue III enable PayPal or a means to donate to the project when the Kickstarter ends? Projects like Star Citizen gained tens of millions in donations by allowing this.

YS: I am still thinking about it, but have not decided yet.

Shenmue is a Peach Blossom tree correct? Could you tell us what type of tree exactly?
I would like to plant one.


YS: It is more like a cherry blossom tree, that blooms its flowers in the springtime. It is actually a tree I made up for the story.

Hello Suzuku-san! Will a day-to-night cycle and weather system return to Shenmue 3? They added so much to the atmosphere of previous games. Thank you Suzuki-san!

YS: Of course!

Will you reassure us that Ryo's face will be changed back to the Ryo we all know and love when Shenmue 3 releases, and not this impostor wearing Ryo's jacket that you have on Kickstarter? That is NOT our Ryo!

YS: I am not happy with Ryo's face. It will be the face I have in my mind in the end.

Will the gameplay in Shenmue III be more contemporary or will it be more in line with past Shenmue iterations?

YS: As for III, I would like to make a less stressful user interface, that will feature more usability. From now on, I will make that a focus.

Yu are my hero!
Shenmue is credited with introducing the QTE. Given the significant advances in gaming systems and technology over the last decade, are you confident that you can show the gaming world something we have not seen before?


YS: Thank you very much.

Will we see any capsule toys based on Ape Escape or any of the Sony franchise in Shenmue 3?

YS: I have not decided the capsule toys, so please keep your ideas coming.

Have you ever consider telling the rest of the tale for Shenmue in a book if the opportunity to make Shenmue III never came up?

YS: Yes, I have but if I did do that, it would give away the end of the story, and I thought that would be a big minus.

What was your inspiration for the story behind the first two Shenmue games?

YS: When I was making Virtua Fighter, I went location hunting in China. I was very inspired by Chinese martial arts. That very well may have been the beginning.

Will practicing moves make a return in Shenmue 3 along with the FREE battle system? A lot of fans feel not being able to practice moves was big piece missing in Shenmue 2, and I also personally loved being able to practice and make the moves stronger. It really makes you feel as if you are learning marital arts and then performing them in a skill-based actual battle feels very satisfying.

YS: I want to do it yes!

Will players have access to both the Japanese and English voice overs for the game?
And I wanted to say thank you so much for Shenmue and Shenmue II, it brought a tear to my eye seeing those games at E3 during the Shenmue III announcement, I cannot wait. Those two games are what made me curious about Japan as a child, and I am now trying to work as a Japanese translator!


YS: I am thinking about that, yes. However it is not for sure.
It is because of fans like you, I wanted to make a sequel. Thank you very much.

Will the band-aid ever come off?

YS: I am considering a special option where it could be removed.

Will we see Ryo's Journal return? Would be cool to be able to flip the pages using the PS4's touchpad.

YS: I would like to bring back the Journal. That is an interesting idea, I will look into it. Thank you.

What do you think of the current state of Japanese game development?

YS: I see the share of mobile games increasing, the budgets of games decreasing. It will be harder to express a game's vision.
I would hope the console and PC markets gain more popularity.

Any possibility of a bicycle finally being added to Shenmue 3? Thank you so much again, Yu!

YS: There is a 60 horsepower bike in Shenmue 1. For Shenmue, 3 I was thinking about something with 1 horsepower.

Will character polls compromise your artistic vision?

YS: I really want to get everyone's opinion on the characters. I have something in mind that won't break the world immersion.

In Suzuki-san’s opinion, what is the essence of arcade games? Are those influences in Shenmue?

YS: With an arcade game, you are restricted to a 3 minute window to express what the game is. That is how I made games for the longest time. I wanted to create a game that could be played at a more leisurely pace, so I created what ended up being Shenmue.

Yu, are you really going to be signing your autograph on the illustration for the $300 kickstarter signed collectors edition? So far there is almost 2000 backers, that is a lot of illustrations to sign!

YS: Of course I will write them all myself!

Will Shenmue 3 have any sort of multiplayer component? Perhaps Co-op or a versus mode?

YS: I am thinking about something that would resemble that.

Do you have any more details to share about the stretch goals? It's not clear to me what a "Rapport System" or "Character Perspective System" entails.

YS: They are new systems, so naturally they need new names. The Rapport System will govern changes in Shenhua's actions depending on your conversations with or actions towards her. The "Character Perspective System" will highlight different characters personalities as they go through the story.

What will Ryo do to earn money in Shenmue 3?
As great and engrossing as the story and gameplay were in Shenmue 1 and 2, I (and many others) really really liked the forklift driving. It was like I could learn a new (video game) skill, get good at it, and putter around the docks like a badass.


YS: There will be part time jobs that will be indicative of those you would find in China. In the Stretch goals there will also be the old favorites.

Do you have any dogs or cats?

YS: 3 yorkshire terriers and a turtle.

Love your work! You are a pioneer in this industry! As for my question:
How much game elements/features will we be missing in the game if the campaign doesn't reach the $5 million mark?


YS: I will say this: if we reach the $5 mil mark, one of the things I really want to do with Shenmue 3 will become a reality.
At $10 million, it will truly have the features of an open world.

Who would win a fight between Ryo and Akira?

YS: Akira! Akira is up to 5 now, and Ryo is still on 3.

Can we expect more duck racing in Shenmue III? That was the best easter egg I've ever seen in a video game.

YS: I would love it.

How was it working with mega64?

YS: It was really fun. I would love to do it again.
I hope they pitch in for the replica Ryo jacktet!

Will there be forklift gameplay in Shenmue III?

YS: Look for it in the Stretch Goals!

Given Shenmue 2's ending and previous items found within the series; will swordplay enter gameplay at all? What about the story, can we expect Ryo to use a sword at some point?

YS: I can't answer that.

Do you have a favorite game that you've developed other than Shenmue?

YS: I had fun making all the games I worked on, and can't say one was better than another. Boring answer I know, but it really is true.

I only have one statement. I think I speak for everyone here when I say that Shenmue is one of the greatest game series of all time. And one quick question, what can we expect for surprises in the 3rd installment without spoiling the storyline at all?

YS: How could I do that? Sorry, gotta pass. Thank you very much though!

I've always wondered, why did you set the game in the 1980s rather than present day?

YS: I wanted put forward the differences in culture and values between the two periods.

(Suzuki-san, thank you for coming today! Shenmue is the reason I came to Japan. Those living towns and people you showed in your games were so natural and real, that I wanted to see it for myself. So, now I am in my fourth year of living in Japan.
What I'd like to ask is, if you had billions of yen, what would your dream Shenmue be?
Also, were there any features or gameplay you liked that didn't make it into Shenmue 1 or 2?)


YS: One where the player could live in that world. A second life.

I have two important questions for you:
Do you know where I can find some sailors?
Would you like to try a game of Lucky Hit?


YS: Yes, but not right now.
Uh, ok.

I love the music from Shenmue, if anything kept me thinking about Shenmue from time to time during these 10+ years it was the music. Was is your favorite piece from the soundtrack? Thank you for bringing Shenmue to our lives, I can't thank you enough.

YS: Of course I love both the Shenmue and Shenhua themes, and all of them really, but the one that really sticks with me is the Tomato Mart.

Will there be more funding tiers added to the Shenmue 3 Kickstarter, specifically between the $500 and $3000 tier?

YS: Yes.

Shenmue 3 is just the start. How successful does the game need to be for us to get Shenmue 4 and so on until the saga is complete?

YS: If the fans are not happy with 3 there will not be a 4. So I please hope we can together make this game the best it can be.

What Sega console is your favourite and why?

YS: The Dreamcast. It has really good balance. I was involved with the hardware as well, so it had a lot of meaning for me.

Suzuki-San...welcome to the fantasy zone! It's finally happening. Any plans on more arcade games within Shenmue III?

YS: I plan on making plans.

Why do you create?

YS: Why does one climb the mountain?
The shark cannot breath when it does not swim.

Any info on the stretch goals for Choubu and Bailu village?

YS: Choubu is a riverside village with lots of shops, souvenir stores, hotels and temples. The quests in this village should be very enjoyable, I think.
Bailu is the village where Shenhua was raised and also a place that Ryo's father, Iwao, had visited when he was younger. Here as well the quests will play an important role as Ryo and Shenhua start their journey.

Are all the towns listed in the Kickstarter stretch goals in the game already, or are the stretch goals only there as a means to help give them more features and spice?

YS: They are there, but with more powered up through the stretch goals.

Will Ryo ever go back to Japan?

YS: Not in 3.

Who is your favorite Shenmue character?

YS: It has always been Shenhua.

Are you still involved in any programming activities?

YS: I still write algorithms, logic verification, and make simple prototypes.

Do you play airsoft, paintball, or anything similar?

YS: I think it was Afterburner that I really got into airsoft. The office floor was covered with plastic BBs. Yeah, the Berretta 93R rocks. I put a real hunting scope on that one.

Are you at all a fan of Anime? If so, what are your favourites?

YS: Sure, but its all pretty old stuff.

Will the game take advantage of the virtual reality goggles on PS4 and PC?

YS: Right now, there are no plans for a vr system compatibility, but I love the idea of using it to peer into the world of Shenmue.

When creating Shenmue 3, will you use any assets at all from 1 & 2? Or do you have to start all over from scratch because SEGA still owns the first two games?

YS: The assets from 1 & 2 will get a lot of use.


Also gaf has a great summary on the funding thing and we need all the help we can get!!

http://m.neogaf.com/showthread.php?t=1067382

PLEASE DONATE WHAT YOU CAN
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (donate what you can! Most funds come from KS!)
Post by: thisismyusername on June 20, 2015, 12:30:18 PM
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Have you ever consider telling the rest of the tale for Shenmue in a book if the opportunity to make Shenmue III never came up?

YS: Yes, I have but if I did do that, it would give away the end of the story, and I thought that would be a big minus.

Welp, congrats on never finishing Shenmue then. If he doesn't complete it with 3, it's never gonna happen.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (donate what you can! Most funds come from KS!)
Post by: Himu on June 20, 2015, 12:34:35 PM
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Have you ever consider telling the rest of the tale for Shenmue in a book if the opportunity to make Shenmue III never came up?

YS: Yes, I have but if I did do that, it would give away the end of the story, and I thought that would be a big minus.

Welp, congrats on never finishing Shenmue then. If he doesn't complete it with 3, it's never gonna happen.

Did you read that question right? It says nothing in relation to what you said. Yu has a book of his story outline. The person asked if Yu considered posting it before. Yu said he had, but decided on not to because it'd spoil the story. He says nothing about not finishing the story in III. :wtf
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (donate what you can! Most funds come from KS!)
Post by: thisismyusername on June 20, 2015, 12:37:44 PM
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Have you ever consider telling the rest of the tale for Shenmue in a book if the opportunity to make Shenmue III never came up?

YS: Yes, I have but if I did do that, it would give away the end of the story, and I thought that would be a big minus.

Welp, congrats on never finishing Shenmue then. If he doesn't complete it with 3, it's never gonna happen.

Did you read that question right? It says nothing in relation to what you said. Yu has a book of his story outline. The person asked if Yu considered posting it before. Yu said he had, but decided on not to because it'd spoil the story. He says nothing about not finishing the story in III. :wtf

I read it exactly right, couple it with this:

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Shenmue 3 is just the start. How successful does the game need to be for us to get Shenmue 4 and so on until the saga is complete?

YS: If the fans are not happy with 3 there will not be a 4. So I please hope we can together make this game the best it can be.

AKA: "I have no plans of finishing the story with Shenmue 3. Please be excited buy Shenmue 3 to get 4/5/6/7/8/9/10/11 to finish the series!"

Which at this point is ":wtf It took you YEARS to even get a sniffing chance of doing Shenmue 3. Now that you're doing it, why WOULDN'T you attempt to finish the story or tie up ends and have a suppliment comic/novel/whatever for the plot-strings you want to leave for a '4' in case that DOESN'T happen."

Why would he leave that hanging for a chance of another game? Just... doesn't seem like a good idea to me, after Sega gave up.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (donate what you can! Most funds come from KS!)
Post by: Himu on June 20, 2015, 12:39:38 PM
Then maybe you quoted the wrong quote because the quote you posted in relation to a book and not the ending.


Anyways, it's not going to end in III. Most likely it end in IV. If III goes well, we will get IV. If III doesn't go well at least we got III. No compromises. I have been waiting for this for a decade. I refuse to compromise. Yu refuses to compromise. Fuck compromise.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (donate what you can! Most funds come from KS!)
Post by: thisismyusername on June 20, 2015, 12:42:53 PM
Then maybe you quoted the wrong quote because the quote you posted in relation to a book and not the ending.

No, I quoted the right quote: He has the complete story mapped out and could've finished it years ago. He didn't want to because it would "spoil the story." Now that he has a chance with Shenmue 3 to finish the story, he then says in another question "please buy Shenmue 3 and have it be successful so I can do a Shenmue 4."

If he has that complete story mapped out, why wouldn't he finish it with Shenmue 3 thereby saving himself the agony of praying that a "Shenmue 4" will happen to allow him to complete the story? Double so: If he had that story completely done and could've done it years ago, why wouldn't he? People begged him for a Shenmue 3, at that point he could've done a novel and washed his hands of it.

Basically, Himu my problem is this: It feels like he's going to pull another Shenmue 2 ending and leave 3 on a "to be continued" in the hopes of being able to do a 4 and thereby leaving fans in a lurch of praying for a Shenmue 4 if 3 fails (I'm not calling that yet, it's wayyy to early to say given dev costs/etc. not there yet). Meanwhile, he has the complete story mapped out and could EASILY have given fans what they wanted, a conclusion to the story. It may not have been interactive or graphical/"movie"-like, but it would've been better than nothing for all these years. Now he's doing the same thing again that Shenmue 2's "to-be-continued" with 3. Why wouldn't you call that out as a "uh... why?" move.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (donate what you can! Most funds come from KS!)
Post by: Tasty on June 20, 2015, 01:55:25 PM
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Shenmue 3 is just the start. How successful does the game need to be for us to get Shenmue 4 and so on until the saga is complete?

YS: If the fans are not happy with 3 there will not be a 4. So I please hope we can together make this game the best it can be.

Dis bish already lining up 4 an 5 :comeon

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Suzuki-San...welcome to the fantasy zone! It's finally happening. Any plans on more arcade games within Shenmue III?

YS: I plan on making plans.

 :nintendo
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (donate what you can! Most funds come from KS!)
Post by: Himu on June 20, 2015, 02:03:38 PM
Then maybe you quoted the wrong quote because the quote you posted in relation to a book and not the ending.

No, I quoted the right quote: He has the complete story mapped out and could've finished it years ago. He didn't want to because it would "spoil the story." Now that he has a chance with Shenmue 3 to finish the story, he then says in another question "please buy Shenmue 3 and have it be successful so I can do a Shenmue 4."

If he has that complete story mapped out, why wouldn't he finish it with Shenmue 3 thereby saving himself the agony of praying that a "Shenmue 4" will happen to allow him to complete the story? Double so: If he had that story completely done and could've done it years ago, why wouldn't he? People begged him for a Shenmue 3, at that point he could've done a novel and washed his hands of it.

Basically, Himu my problem is this: It feels like he's going to pull another Shenmue 2 ending and leave 3 on a "to be continued" in the hopes of being able to do a 4 and thereby leaving fans in a lurch of praying for a Shenmue 4 if 3 fails (I'm not calling that yet, it's wayyy to early to say given dev costs/etc. not there yet). Meanwhile, he has the complete story mapped out and could EASILY have given fans what they wanted, a conclusion to the story. It may not have been interactive or graphical/"movie"-like, but it would've been better than nothing for all these years. Now he's doing the same thing again that Shenmue 2's "to-be-continued" with 3. Why wouldn't you call that out as a "uh... why?" move.

You say easily, but it isn't easy. Cutting out the entire last two games and relying on only one game to finish the story would make for a very, very, muddy experience.

Easily?

(http://i.imgur.com/JeUb8g8.png)

Shenmue II ended on that fifth image. We are on chapter 5.

Never mind this.

(http://i.imgur.com/vz34sgC.jpg)

Easily? You really, really shouldn't use words like that in regards to Shenmue and cutting chapters. Suzuki has said ending it in 3 is impossible over the years. Although his vision is 5 games, if need be - and we are definitely in "need" here - he can cut it to 4 but no more. 3 ending the story is impossible. The problem is your own expectations of the story ending. Suzuki has never said it would over the years. Never. Ideally, he wants 4. If 3 does well, and it very well may, we will get Shenmue 4. If it doesn't do well, at least got 3. There is no reason to compromise quality for a need to rush to the ending. Especially a game like Shenmue, which is as much about the journey.

Fans don't want an ending from 3. We want continuation.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (donate what you can! Most funds come from KS!)
Post by: Tasty on June 20, 2015, 02:38:04 PM
Another 15 years of trolling Shenmue fans about a game that may never come out sounds great to me. :leon
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (donate what you can! Most funds come from KS!)
Post by: Mr. Nobody on June 20, 2015, 05:35:19 PM
Not gonna lie, not ending in 3 sounds rather far fetched.

This existing right now is somewhat of a miracle...slow your roll breh
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (donate what you can! Most funds come from KS!)
Post by: cool breeze on June 20, 2015, 06:01:21 PM
I spent some time digging out old systems and games to see what I need to replay 1 and 2.  just learning I never ripped shenmue back in the day, probably because it's 3 gdis, and the process is a pain.  don't want to download anything, emulation is out.  but I have a VGA adapter so playing it on my old, noisy, musky dreamcast is an option.  For shenmue 2, I don't have the pal version for dreamcast and glancing at prices online, forget it.  they were high and shenmue 3 made them higher.  I can play my old xbox copy but I'd have to take my xbox apart and remove a time capacitor or something.  I'm reading it's backwards compatible on the 360 with some glitches, that seems to be the best option.  I wish they released versions on steam or gog.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (donate what you can! Most funds come from KS!)
Post by: Himu on June 20, 2015, 06:02:44 PM
360 version for II is your best option if you want to go the legal route.

Or you can just burn II DC to cd-r's and play that way.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (donate what you can! Most funds come from KS!)
Post by: Himu on June 21, 2015, 02:54:22 PM
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/141291-Sony-will-be-involved-in-marketing-and-production-for-Shenmue-3

great article

also, 3.5 reached
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (donate what you can! Most funds come from KS!)
Post by: Lucretius on June 21, 2015, 05:27:07 PM
These were my predictions on the future of Shenmue III April 2014.

Shenmue III

Free-to-play, card based battle system. 
Facebook exclusive.
In-app purchases of card booster packs.
In-app purchases of virtual quarters to play Outrun and Space Harrier. 
spoiler (click to show/hide)
(Virtual quarters cost $1.99.)
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Send out mass messages to your entire friends list asking "Please help me find sailors!" 
Amazing voice acting…
spoiler (click to show/hide)
in Japanese only with no subtitles because Sega doesn't localize their RPGs anymore.
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Amazing story…
spoiler (click to show/hide)
that ends in a huge cliffhanger teasing Shenmue IV which will never get made.
[close]
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (donate what you can! Most funds come from KS!)
Post by: Himu on June 22, 2015, 12:02:51 PM
Amazing article. This sounds soooo gooood! :lawd The return of Ren! :lawd :hyper

http://www.4gamer.net/games/305/G030593/20150618126/

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Thanks for being here.
YS: Thanks for having me. before jumping into questions I just want to make clear that Shenmue is a Kickstarter project and the scope and contents depend on the stretch goals.

-- Yeah, looking at the Kickstarter stretch goals there are the rapport system and skill tree and other added.
YS: We add more stretch goals so as more people pledge the scope of the game will get bigger. So as of now I can’t talk in detail about the mechanics of the game. What I’m able to accomplish will very much depend on the funds we can gather. I want to avoid telling too much and end up betraying those who have paid.

-- Under those circumstances, what do you want to do with Shenmue III?
YS: I want to show the relationship between Ryo and Shenhua in more detail. Even further than previous games.

-- It’s kind of hard to imagine how that would work.
YS: Maybe so. I want to to challenge myself, but new things are hard to get people to understand and therefore harder to gain support for. That’s one of the reasons we have prepared stretch goals like larger map and mini games.

-- So you made easy to understand stretch goals first.
YS: As more money comes in, the world of Shenmue III gets larger, and the game becomes more complete. But if it becomes a question of what game has the largest world, the game with the largest budget has a sure advantage. When it comes to Shenmue III, I want to ensure that there are other parts to enjoy besides just the open world aspects.

-- Can you give us any examples?
YS: At 3.2 million dollars there is the rapport system stretch goal. Actions and conversations will affect the relation between Ryo and Shenhua in subtle ways. The way Shenhua speaks and cooperate etc. will change.

-- It seems like the story could change depending on the relationship.
YS: Let’s just say that it depends on the budget. Making statements like that is just asking for trouble (laugh).

-- I get it (laugh). Could you explain the 5 million dollar stretch goal; the character perspective system?
YS: That is where the player will take control of characters like Shenhua and Ren instead of Ryo.

-- At a certain point in the game will we be able to change characters freely?
YS: I can’t talk about details yet, so I will just say that it’s not necessarily like we are letting you control the other characters exactly like Ryo.

-- So it’s not like you can just change characters at will.
YS: The personality of Ren and Shenhua is different from Ryo, so even if they see the same thing the reactions would be different. When you played as Ryo it was his decisions, but playing as Ren and Shenhua would make it very interesting.

-- Hearing that makes me even more interested (laugh).
YS: I’m unable to describe it any more until the 5 million dollar stretch goal is reached, so I’ll stop here for today.

-- By the way, will the story end with this part.
YS: To tell the truth, the original story is too long to end here. So I decided against trying to fit it all in to Shenmue III.

-- Which means that after the Shenmue III project has been finished we have to wait for the the next part.
YS: First we have to do our best to make Shenmue III a solid game.

-- Let’s leave the appearance of Shenmue III and talk about the backend. Can you tell us why you chose to use Unreal Engine 4?
YS: It’s because it’s easy to use and fits with how I imagine Shenmue to look. There are like rendering tendencies for the different engines, and the base colors of Unreal Engine 4 added with “dampness and scent” makes it Shenmue.

-- Are the colors you imagine the same as with the first two parts?
YS: Of course. Shenmue had that air humidity feeling well presented and it had a smell too. That’s what I aim for with Shenmue III.

-- So you’re saying that if you take a scenery out of the game and look at it you’d be able to say “That’s Shenmue!”?
YS: Yeah, That’s what I want to do. But the promotional video we made for Kickstarter felt dry. Kind of ended up like the Californian humidity level (laugh).

-- Your idea of the exact colors or the “scent” of the graphics, is it hard to convey that to the developers?
YS: It it very very hard to explain it. It’s like trying to explain what a melon is to someone who only has seen watermelons and mandarins. Well, you can say the size is about in the middle, but trying to explain the taste is very hard.

-- With that said, do you have members from the former parts working on Shenmue III?
YS: Yes. So we have the original members that kind of know what Shenmue is about.

-- After fifteen years, it’s quite the thing to bring everyone together again.
YS: I think so. Everyone has gone independent or changed their positions, but even at this stage when the scope of the production isn’t set in stone they have gladly offered to join. That’s really heartwarming.

-- It feels like the relationship is deeper than what you could expect from work colleges.
YS: That’s because Shenmue was a project that was more than just work. Ten years after the development of Shenmue II we had this get-together and more than 100 people came.

-- That’s amazing. I’m not sure if I would call that just a get-together.

-- The level of creativity in the games you have created is often very high. Is there any secret to this?
YS: No. I never play games outside work, so I don’t get that influenced by other games. Maybe that’s the reason.

-- I had this idea that you researched other games thorough and tried to make something different, but I guess that’s not true then.
YS: Yeah. it easier to just make something from zero (laugh).

-- So maybe If someone from the media like me hear an explanation for a game and say “Is it like the mechanics from that other game?” you might not be able to get it?
YS: I’m sorry, but I guess that’s true. Well, maybe I have to study the trends in the most popular games.

-- By the way, this is the first in a long time that you get to work on a game this big.
YS: Yeah. It feels like it was a long time ago I got this invested in a game.

-- It’s not like you totally left the game industry, but what do you think of the game industry in Japan looking from a bit afar.
YS: The game engine Unity came out and made it easy for just one person to make his own game, which is a good thing. It wouldn’t be healthy if only big budget games were able to survive. It’s good that the market has expanded with more alternatives. But it’s kind of sad that a majority of games that make money are small like games for smartphones.

-- Do you feel like more effort should be made in making titles for the consoles?
YS: Yeah. Before, Japan was said to be number one in game making. It’s sad that the knowledge that had amassed during that time wasn’t used better.

-- Many of the people during that time went over to make games for smartphones.
YS: It’s not like games for smartphones are necessarily bad, but what’s characteristic of smartphone game making is that the development cycles from start to finished tend to be fast. It might be good for business, but I’m not really satisfied with that. If you compare to cars there’s the really popular cars that sell well. They make a lot of money for the company, but if they don’t develop their flagship model their technical advancement will suffer.

-- In USA there is still a lot of money spent in games for game consoles and PC.
YS: Yeah. That kind of rich content helps activate the whole industry. I hope the industry in Japan gets back on track like before...

-- Oh, the interview got very negative suddenly. Could you maybe give a word of encouragement to the young developers of today or people thinking about making games?
YS: Today is different from before. It’s possible for anyone to make games now. Before it was impossible to make games if you didn’t know how to program, but now there are tools for that. It’s also possible to study game development, and it’s easy to learn from the internet. Living in this age you shouldn't think too hard and just try for fun, go in the direction that feels best for you. Begin with having fun creating.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (donate what you can! Most funds come from KS!)
Post by: Great Rumbler on June 22, 2015, 01:51:50 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nXqrYx-04Ok
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (Yu Suzuki Reddit AMA Friday)
Post by: Human Snorenado on June 22, 2015, 01:57:52 PM
I've put in for my digital copy, but I can't see this game living up to the older ones. Nostalgia is a son of a bitch.

I'm expecting a very clean, straightforward experience with a smidgen of the exploration the older games provided.

I refuse to play a water downed Heavy Rain esque Shenmue. Refuse.

Stop lying. You will play this even if it's a Tell Tales games clone.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (donate what you can! Most funds come from KS!)
Post by: thisismyusername on June 22, 2015, 04:52:15 PM
Then maybe you quoted the wrong quote because the quote you posted in relation to a book and not the ending.

No, I quoted the right quote: He has the complete story mapped out and could've finished it years ago. He didn't want to because it would "spoil the story." Now that he has a chance with Shenmue 3 to finish the story, he then says in another question "please buy Shenmue 3 and have it be successful so I can do a Shenmue 4."

If he has that complete story mapped out, why wouldn't he finish it with Shenmue 3 thereby saving himself the agony of praying that a "Shenmue 4" will happen to allow him to complete the story? Double so: If he had that story completely done and could've done it years ago, why wouldn't he? People begged him for a Shenmue 3, at that point he could've done a novel and washed his hands of it.

Basically, Himu my problem is this: It feels like he's going to pull another Shenmue 2 ending and leave 3 on a "to be continued" in the hopes of being able to do a 4 and thereby leaving fans in a lurch of praying for a Shenmue 4 if 3 fails (I'm not calling that yet, it's wayyy to early to say given dev costs/etc. not there yet). Meanwhile, he has the complete story mapped out and could EASILY have given fans what they wanted, a conclusion to the story. It may not have been interactive or graphical/"movie"-like, but it would've been better than nothing for all these years. Now he's doing the same thing again that Shenmue 2's "to-be-continued" with 3. Why wouldn't you call that out as a "uh... why?" move.

You say easily, but it isn't easy. Cutting out the entire last two games and relying on only one game to finish the story would make for a very, very, muddy experience.

Easily?

Yes, easily. I'm not even talking about the third game/concluding there. Let me requote it since you seemed to have missed the golden opportunity:

Quote from: In bold
Have you ever consider telling the rest of the tale for Shenmue in a book if the opportunity to make Shenmue III never came up?

YS: Yes, I have but if I did do that, it would give away the end of the story, and I thought that would be a big minus.


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Fans don't want an ending from 3. We want continuation.

Then continue to pray your "continuation" attempt will be successful. I'm not going to sit there and pray a 4/5/6... happens for a saga that could have the story's writer flesh out his plotpoints into a novel and have it be translated into English after for the niche fans.

AKA: "Easily" end the fucking thing instead of having people beg Sega for years who washes their hands and pawns it off onto Sony.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (donate what you can! Most funds come from KS!)
Post by: Himu on June 22, 2015, 05:19:06 PM
There won't be a 5 or 6. More than likely, Yu will end it in 4.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (donate what you can! Most funds come from KS!)
Post by: Himu on June 23, 2015, 10:06:46 AM
Amazing interview with Ryo's Japanese voice actor. He actually learned Bajiquan!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHJpUqx3GI0

Shame that they think English speakers can't handle Japanese with English subs and dubbed over Ryo's VOICE ACTOR but oh well. AMAZING interview!
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (donate what you can! Most funds come from KS!)
Post by: Tasty on June 23, 2015, 10:27:09 AM
Don't you mean SEIYUU :expert
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (donate what you can! Most funds come from KS!)
Post by: Joe Molotov on June 23, 2015, 11:13:17 AM
I prefer CV.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (donate what you can! Most funds come from KS!)
Post by: Steve Contra on June 23, 2015, 02:04:11 PM
Wait, he says 10 million for an open world game?  :neogaf
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (donate what you can! Most funds come from KS!)
Post by: Positive Touch on June 23, 2015, 02:07:11 PM
to be fair, he did say they were gonna reuse a bunch of assets from the old games. but even still I see no fuckin where he can pull off a game like this for such a low amount of money unless he's using enslaved Korean programmers.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (donate what you can! Most funds come from KS!)
Post by: Positive Touch on June 23, 2015, 02:07:47 PM
brb going to tell Polygon that yu suzuki is using enslaved Korean programmers
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (donate what you can! Most funds come from KS!)
Post by: Himu on June 23, 2015, 02:14:37 PM
When he says open-world game, he's talking about the scope of Shenmue 1, likely even less because it doesn't take place in an urban environment. Not the scope of say, GTAV or a Just Cause or something.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (donate what you can! Most funds come from KS!)
Post by: Tasty on June 23, 2015, 02:20:49 PM
Guys guys guys, Unreal Engine 4 is like a magic wand. All Yu Suzuki has to do is wave it and he can make the same scope as Shenmue 2 cost 20x less.  :clap
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (donate what you can! Most funds come from KS!)
Post by: Himu on June 23, 2015, 02:24:50 PM
Shenmue II cost about~ 20 million. So half of that is 10 million.

 :ufup
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (donate what you can! Most funds come from KS!)
Post by: Human Snorenado on June 23, 2015, 02:28:58 PM
[space reserved for "I told you so" trolling when a shoddy product is finally released]
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (donate what you can! Most funds come from KS!)
Post by: Trent Dole on June 23, 2015, 02:31:41 PM
That's gonna be a few years from now...
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (donate what you can! Most funds come from KS!)
Post by: Steve Contra on June 23, 2015, 02:42:02 PM
the eventual 2019 Shenmue 3 visual novel is going to be great

spoiler (click to show/hide)
Joking aside I don't see how they can possibly release anything that resembles the originals with that budget. This whole thing stinks of Sony manipulating this event to dominate the news cycle at e3 without having to care about the final product.
[close]
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (donate what you can! Most funds come from KS!)
Post by: Himu on June 23, 2015, 03:07:20 PM
the eventual 2019 Shenmue 3 visual novel is going to be great

spoiler (click to show/hide)
Joking aside I don't see how they can possibly release anything that resembles the originals with that budget. This whole thing stinks of Sony manipulating this event to dominate the news cycle at e3 without having to care about the final product.
[close]

We will see. Sega has given them everything from 1, 2, and I believe Online to use, Unreal 4 eases development for developers, the game is likely much smaller in scale compared to 1 and 2 due to the setting. Shenmue 1, 2, the Saturn prototype, and changing systems all cost 47 million combined, but they were also pioneers in a lot of areas in gaming. So that's going to make it even more expensive due to the time. What they did during those times they did without a reference. The team is now 14 years more experienced, and open-world games have taken off, given them much actual references. I think the 10 million figure is feasible. But all this does not account for pay. Witcher 3 managed to do what it did with 15 million. We will see.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (donate what you can! Most funds come from KS!)
Post by: Tasty on June 23, 2015, 03:36:43 PM
Shenmue II cost about~ 20 million. So half of that is 10 million.

 :ufup

I was more commenting on the original KS goal which Shenmue fans were saying was totally doable because of UE4. :P
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (donate what you can! Most funds come from KS!)
Post by: Steve Contra on June 23, 2015, 03:59:33 PM
Also any assets they plan on reusing aren't "free" in anyway.  I can't imagine the expense in trying to get an animation rig built in 1998 (and the exported animations and frankly anything else) to work on a new engine in 2015 but I'm guessing it's "a lot".
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (donate what you can! Most funds come from KS!)
Post by: Himu on June 23, 2015, 04:24:27 PM
Shenmue II cost about~ 20 million. So half of that is 10 million.

 :ufup

I was more commenting on the original KS goal which Shenmue fans were saying was totally doable because of UE4. :P

Who said this? On gaf? Morons. :neogaf
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (donate what you can! Most funds come from KS!)
Post by: Himu on June 23, 2015, 05:58:01 PM
Anyways, I'm just really positive and happy. I haven't been this positive about games in years! I still am considering getting a ps4 simply due to that Sony conference even though it's not necessary because Shenmue 3 and FF7r are coming to PC. I just feel that Sony should be rewarded for being so awesome. :tocry
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (donate what you can! Most funds come from KS!)
Post by: Himu on June 24, 2015, 03:16:02 PM
Over the past few days I have been replaying Shenmue II disc 4.

I have a save specifically for when I want to replay it because I consider it one of gamings biggest milestones and achievements.

Before, it always made me sad, but this time I did it for the first time with the knowledge we are getting Shenmue III, and it made me really, really happy. I was happy seeing all of these questions and stuff that I may actually get answers to. Shenhua talks about the Shenmue tree, animals and life in Guilin, country livin', her adoptive father, the old lady who taught her how to sew, urbanism vs naturalism, all this stuff that's hinted in 3 you think you'll never see ever. And we're fucking getting it. We're actually going to get it! :hyper Every time I played this section of the game I had a sense of melancholy because I knew this was it and the last time you'd see Shenmue, but for the first time I could sit back and enjoy it in full without pressure that I will never get answers to my questions or get to see all this cool shit Shenhua was talking about.

I highly suggest everyone who has played II and felt similar to do the same. What an amazing experience! :lawd

Life is amazing. :tocry

(http://i.imgur.com/sUM8Cmf.gif)
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (donate what you can! Most funds come from KS!)
Post by: seagrams hotsauce on June 24, 2015, 09:52:20 PM
Stumbled across this today and this seems as appropriate a place to put it as anywhere. I'm tempted but every time I preorder vinyl it gets delayed for three months (http://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0558/2081/products/Shenmue_1024x1024.jpg?v=1432919251)
http://mondotees.com/collections/music/products/shenmue-selects
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (donate what you can! Most funds come from KS!)
Post by: Himu on June 25, 2015, 12:01:34 AM
yup i'm getting it
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (donate what you can! Most funds come from KS!)
Post by: VomKriege on June 27, 2015, 10:40:37 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZm-HzCVzL4&t

At 3:15

(http://i.imgur.com/SqSmyb9.gif)
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (donate what you can! Most funds come from KS!)
Post by: Himu on June 27, 2015, 01:18:52 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/6qL7BZU.gif)
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (donate what you can! Most funds come from KS!)
Post by: VomKriege on June 29, 2015, 01:36:29 PM
Awesome Japan, in charge of the KS, are currently being burned at the stake by fans. Not unwarranted, mind you, but beyond the fact that changing them now will only disturb this campaign more, they may not be the sole source of problems. To be honest, I would have expected way more videos, images, vertical slices, a way more compelling treatment presenting the core ideas of the game, and that doesn't sound so preposterous considering the resume of Yu Suzuki, the ambition of the project and how long it's been in the oven. This would actually go a long way to convince me that the project has a clear direction. Right now the impression (which may just be that, an impression) is that they -including Yu Suzuki- are way in over their head.

Maybe I'm setting too high a standard, because Bloodstained doesn't give me the impression to have presented a lot more actual content (the presentation is way more slick though) during campaign ? But really, would the KS page pass muster as a game pitch in a "real" "professional" setting ?
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (donate what you can! Most funds come from KS!)
Post by: Himu on June 29, 2015, 04:12:49 PM
The biggest problem with AJ is their complete lack of social media presence and fan involvement and trying to make Shenmue known to people who don't know what Shenmue is. But, yeah, I agree with you.

Sorry for bursting at you yesterday, had a bad day. I was being a jerk, sorry.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (donate what you can! Most funds come from KS!)
Post by: Himu on June 29, 2015, 07:06:45 PM
http://www.twitch.tv/shenmuedojo

Streaming will continue on the Dojo tonight, same time as usual, 10pm EST.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (donate what you can! Most funds come from KS!)
Post by: VomKriege on June 30, 2015, 12:42:15 AM
Well, we all have bad days and can relate. Also I can be an opinionated basterd. So don't worry too much  :)
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (PS4 PHYSICAL COPY! PLEDGE NOW!!!)
Post by: Himu on July 03, 2015, 12:40:51 PM
SHENMUE 3 PS4 PHYSICAL COPY REWARD

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/ysnet/shenmue-3/posts/1283532

PLEDGE NOW NO EXCUSES
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (PS4 PHYSICAL COPY! PLEDGE NOW!!!)
Post by: nachobro on July 03, 2015, 05:53:54 PM
But Himu...the placeholder art is ugly.  :'( People should revoke their pledges!
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (PS4 PHYSICAL COPY! PLEDGE NOW!!!)
Post by: VomKriege on July 04, 2015, 12:37:35 AM
That Awesome Japan apology  :lol
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (PS4 PHYSICAL COPY! PLEDGE NOW!!!)
Post by: Himu on July 04, 2015, 02:28:36 AM
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=170828960&postcount=12245

Q: I have a #YouaskYu question. Suzuki-sama, at $5 million, exactly HOW open world will Shenmue 3 be, compared to Shenmue 1/2? Arigatou!

YS: I'm expecting something similar to Dobuita in terms of scale.

HNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNGGGGGGGGGGGG
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (PS4 PHYSICAL COPY! PLEDGE NOW!!!)
Post by: Himu on July 04, 2015, 10:06:50 AM
Yesterday I was never as proud to be a gamer as then. The Shenmue community rallied in positivity. We made a goal to extend our pledges 30 dollars or more yesterday, and the KS curators heard our cries and helped us. Over 1200 new backers, over 330k made yesterday, a potentially damaging Kotaku article that possibly helped turn the media attention to something more positive, great new tiers, evdry person who loves Shenmue was giving it their all yesterday despite all the adversity, to help Yu and his team out and we have raised 4.2 million dollars. I'm just really proud of the community right now, what we have achieved (almost second highest kickstart game ever, only 10k left, and with over 20k less backers I might add).

I even did a monster stream on Twitch that last six hours in celebration and I never play games that long anymore.

Shenmue fans we got this. This game and this KS and the community have restored my faith in gaming despite the awfulness surrounding it.

I mean

(https://scontent-ams3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xtp1/v/t1.0-9/11705246_1006540609365770_6137622936454982649_n.jpg?oh=683ca92d435ece030b0a0aefb431bd45&oe=562D1501)
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (PS4 PHYSICAL COPY! PLEDGE NOW!!!)
Post by: Himu on July 05, 2015, 04:12:09 AM
Fantastic pieces on Shenmue's uniqueness:

https://youtu.be/V5bSkggI5Ps

And from Eurogamer:

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2015-07-05-what-makes-shenmue-2s-open-world-so-special
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (PS4 PHYSICAL COPY! PLEDGE NOW!!!)
Post by: Mupepe on July 05, 2015, 01:08:01 PM
Get them to do an X1 version and I'm in. I'm not buying a ps4 for TLG and Shenmue 3.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (PS4 PHYSICAL COPY! PLEDGE NOW!!!)
Post by: Himu on July 06, 2015, 01:27:02 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/9CQsOMh.jpg)

:jawalrus
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (PS4 PHYSICAL COPY! PLEDGE NOW!!!)
Post by: VomKriege on July 06, 2015, 02:07:21 AM
http://www.shenmuedojo.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=48235

 :dead
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (PS4 PHYSICAL COPY! PLEDGE NOW!!!)
Post by: Himu on July 06, 2015, 02:16:59 AM
Hard to hate. He's not wrong. It really could elevate their school. Definitely a risk, but I don't see what's wrong with giving back to what inspired you to do something like that to begin with.

I too would like to visit Guilin.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (PS4 PHYSICAL COPY! PLEDGE NOW!!!)
Post by: VomKriege on July 06, 2015, 02:25:52 AM
Hard to hate. He's not wrong. It really could elevate their school. Definitely a risk, but I don't see what's wrong with giving back to what inspired you to do something like that to begin with.

I too would like to visit Guilin.

I don't hate, I just find it's a lot of money to throw for something that could provide little tangible results. Shenmue fans are both admirable and scary in a way.

EDIT : Also, as a tangent, a part of that money is going to KS pockets. For a sum like that I would have contacted YsNet without any middleman and negotiated directly.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (PS4 PHYSICAL COPY! PLEDGE NOW!!!)
Post by: Himu on July 06, 2015, 02:28:55 AM
Eh, well it's not like he donated 20k himself. It was split between him and his brother. If I had the cash, I'd do the same. I'm stuck with the 120 tier, but if I could, I would donate 500 or 1000 easy. Shenmue isn't like other games, hence the passion. I'm pretty sure the fanbase is the only reason why we are even getting III and Shenmue hasn't been forgotten in obscurity. Considering the niche appeal, I find that pretty cool how people are willing to donate 20k to it. It really shows the games emotional power it has on its fans.

They wanted the dinner, that's why they did the pledge and not via correspondence.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (PS4 PHYSICAL COPY! PLEDGE NOW!!!)
Post by: chronovore on July 16, 2015, 08:00:19 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gY6GzhjPXaE
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (PS4 PHYSICAL COPY! PLEDGE NOW!!!)
Post by: Himu on July 16, 2015, 11:04:34 AM
I loved that trailer. The first trailer was really rough but this one despite being early has a strong sense of art direction. It recreates a fan favorite scene from II, and has the spirit of Shenmue in it. The music helps a lot as the song is a classic Shenmue song and music is a huge part of the series experience as it transports you into another place. Ryo's stoic personality can be seen through the animation as well, which is my favorite part, because all of the characters behave and walk and carry themselves differently, integral to their personality and I was worried that flavor was lost. Even the cheesy booty zoom is Shenmue as fuck and got a good laugh out of it. That trailer does things and stirs emotions. The fact they managed to do it without funding with limited staff because they haven't even started hiring yet, gives me even more forth in this product that it will be something special.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (PS4 PHYSICAL COPY! PLEDGE NOW!!!)
Post by: Tasty on July 16, 2015, 11:56:45 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gY6GzhjPXaE

Papyrus :kobeyuck
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (PS4 PHYSICAL COPY! PLEDGE NOW!!!)
Post by: Himu on July 16, 2015, 01:04:59 PM
???
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (PS4 PHYSICAL COPY! PLEDGE NOW!!!)
Post by: qq more on July 16, 2015, 01:05:03 PM
Just backed $100. Pretty excited for this tbh
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (PS4 PHYSICAL COPY! PLEDGE NOW!!!)
Post by: Himu on July 16, 2015, 01:37:59 PM
I backed 120.

I need that capsule toy for my Shenmue collection. If it's Chai, I riot.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (PS4 PHYSICAL COPY! PLEDGE NOW!!!)
Post by: Tasty on July 16, 2015, 01:50:16 PM
???

(http://i.imgur.com/4sAvIXV.png)
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (FINAL TWO DAYS!)
Post by: HyperZoneWasAwesome on July 16, 2015, 03:05:29 PM
I'm in for 80.

Physical copy with (I presume) in-engine flashbacks to earlier games. Even still I don't expect this game to come out even near to its planned release date. I look forward to this thread being bumped in 2017, 18, 19...
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (FINAL TWO DAYS!)
Post by: Himu on July 16, 2015, 05:48:46 PM
I am streaming from now until late night and most of tomorrow to celebrate the KS ending.

www.twitch.tv/shenmuedojo
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (PS4 PHYSICAL COPY! PLEDGE NOW!!!)
Post by: Kara on July 16, 2015, 09:18:25 PM
???

(http://i.imgur.com/4sAvIXV.png)

Sans-serif. Not even once.

spoiler (click to show/hide)
I realize the g has a serif.
[close]
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (PS4 PHYSICAL COPY! PLEDGE NOW!!!)
Post by: chronovore on July 16, 2015, 09:23:30 PM
I loved that trailer. The first trailer was really rough but this one despite being early has a strong sense of art direction. It recreates a fan favorite scene from II, and has the spirit of Shenmue in it. The music helps a lot as the song is a classic Shenmue song and music is a huge part of the series experience as it transports you into another place. Ryo's stoic personality can be seen through the animation as well, which is my favorite part, because all of the characters behave and walk and carry themselves differently, integral to their personality and I was worried that flavor was lost. Even the cheesy booty zoom is Shenmue as fuck and got a good laugh out of it. That trailer does things and stirs emotions. The fact they managed to do it without funding with limited staff because they haven't even started hiring yet, gives me even more forth in this product that it will be something special.

I laughed aloud at that booty-zoom as well. I was like, oh, c'mon.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (FINAL TWO DAYS!)
Post by: Himu on July 16, 2015, 10:17:08 PM
TODAY AND TOMORROW ARE CRUCIAL FOR THE FUTURE OF SHENMUE.

Do what you can!!!

http://youtu.be/fgAjZ6lZg_A
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (FINAL TWO DAYS!)
Post by: tiesto on July 16, 2015, 11:03:14 PM
Finally got paid so I just pledged for the $250 collector's edition  :-[
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (FINAL TWO DAYS!)
Post by: Himu on July 16, 2015, 11:05:56 PM
The next 24 hours is a fuck you to all Shenmue haters everywhere.

Despite a half assed ks campaign handled by morons, being FAR less known in gaming, HUNDREDS of articles spreading misinformation on why you shouldn't support Shenmue III kickstarter, it will go on to become the highest backed game kickstarter of all time and set a new record despite people telling us for over a decade that no one wants nor cares about Shenmue. Far more well known and celebrated franchises and creators have been surpassed and after tomorrow no one will be able to deny Shenmue, its fans, or continue to treat it like a meme despite being the great game franchise of all time.

Eat it.

:bow
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (FINAL TWO DAYS!)
Post by: Kara on July 17, 2015, 12:31:43 AM
:clap well said :clap
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (FINAL TWO DAYS!)
Post by: Himu on July 17, 2015, 01:05:26 AM
To remind you of anyone who feels my reaction is not justified, here is what Shenmue's status was just a year ago.

:piss https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cw8Tndlbyng :piss2




Eat it. Choke on it.

Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (FINAL TWO DAYS!)
Post by: Trent Dole on July 17, 2015, 01:34:48 AM
Oh wow it's only a bit more than 1k away from surpassing Bloodstained and it's not even really in its final stretch yet. Y'all are some passionate mofos. :bow
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (FINAL TWO DAYS!)
Post by: Himu on July 17, 2015, 08:39:34 AM
AHAHAHAHAA

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CHl4moZVEAE3Bs_.jpg:orig)
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread - AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA SHENMUE HATERS AHAHAHAHAHA
Post by: Himu on July 17, 2015, 08:47:23 AM
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Yakuza has more mainstream appeal they said.

Shenmue III Kickstarter has made more money than all Yakuza games released in the west combined :rofl

AHAHAHAHAHAHAA
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread - AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA SHENMUE HATERS AHAHAHAHAHA
Post by: Human Snorenado on July 17, 2015, 11:04:06 AM
I don't know what you're talking about. As one of the forum's resident Shenmue haters, getting more Shenmue to hate on can only be a good thing. Coupled with the fact that with the budget the game will have available to it, it is almost certain to be a let down in scope from the first two, this is like Christmas.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread - AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA SHENMUE HATERS AHAHAHAHAHA
Post by: Joe Molotov on July 17, 2015, 11:10:02 AM
Where's the $10 Million? Obviously Shenmue fans don't love Shenmue enough to fund a non-gimped version of Shenmue 3.  :'(
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread - AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA SHENMUE HATERS AHAHAHAHAHA
Post by: Himu on July 17, 2015, 11:46:01 AM
AHAHAHA the back tracking
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (PS4 PHYSICAL COPY! PLEDGE NOW!!!)
Post by: Tasty on July 17, 2015, 12:00:52 PM
???

(http://i.imgur.com/4sAvIXV.png)

Sans-serif. Not even once.

spoiler (click to show/hide)
I realize the g has a serif.
[close]

Sans-serif :rejoice

Serif :kobeyuck
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (FINAL TWO DAYS!)
Post by: Tasty on July 17, 2015, 12:02:08 PM
To remind you of anyone who feels my reaction is not justified, here is what Shenmue's status was just a year ago.

:piss https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cw8Tndlbyng :piss2




Eat it. Choke on it.

Uh, I don't think you realize the kind of guy Gerstmann is, lol.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread - AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA SHENMUE HATERS AHAHAHAHAHA
Post by: Himu on July 17, 2015, 12:51:15 PM
Doesn't matter and it doesn't detract from my point. I remember full well that Yu Suzuki Q&A for Shenmue post mortem where his career and legacy were made fun of, treated without care, and mocked by industry professionals in a business setting despite being arguably a creative genius. Shenmue fans and Suzuki in particular have been trolled and mistreated for over a decade. Gertsmann is merely a drop, but the video is a general demonstration of how the professional gaming media has treated Shenmue, even through this entire kickstarter campaign and is the very reason for my disdain for gaming media and gamers as a whole.

Tonight, they will have their feet in their mouths.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread - AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA SHENMUE HATERS AHAHAHAHAHA
Post by: VomKriege on July 17, 2015, 12:56:46 PM
I guess we have to make do to form our generation's Bataan death marches.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread - AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA SHENMUE HATERS AHAHAHAHAHA
Post by: Himu on July 17, 2015, 01:00:01 PM
Yes, that's exactly what I said.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread - AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA SHENMUE HATERS AHAHAHAHAHA
Post by: Tasty on July 17, 2015, 01:01:07 PM
Lol his rant was a joke for a panel. He even asked at the end when it's coming out.

Being uptight and not taking jokes well is why the Shenmue fanbase probably doesn't have the best reputation...
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread - AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA SHENMUE HATERS AHAHAHAHAHA
Post by: Rufus on July 17, 2015, 01:03:26 PM
Being uptight and not taking jokes well is why the Shenmue SEGA fanbase probably doesn't have the best reputation...
Fixed. Though it is mostly a moot point these days.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread - AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA SHENMUE HATERS AHAHAHAHAHA
Post by: Himu on July 17, 2015, 01:03:37 PM
The joke is the point, Andrex. Shenmue's existence and legacy WAS a joke. You are missing my entire point.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread - AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA SHENMUE HATERS AHAHAHAHAHA
Post by: VomKriege on July 17, 2015, 01:05:12 PM
Yes, that's exactly what I said.

Well, mistreated for a decade sounds overly dramatic, does it not ?
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread - AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA SHENMUE HATERS AHAHAHAHAHA
Post by: Himu on July 17, 2015, 01:08:45 PM
Only if you assume it's dramatic. It's fairly accurate, but all you are willing to do is troll and conflate hyperbolic comparisons.  Tell me how the fanbase, franchise, and Suzuki were not mistreated? Suzuki could not get a job.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread - AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA SHENMUE HATERS AHAHAHAHAHA
Post by: Himu on July 17, 2015, 01:22:14 PM
In any case, we are going to enjoy this, and there's nothing you can say to ruin that especially Andy's "this won't be good for the franchise" I've been dealing with you trolls for TEN YEARS. Surely you can deal with this for ONE DAY.

:aah
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread (PS4 PHYSICAL COPY! PLEDGE NOW!!!)
Post by: Kara on July 17, 2015, 02:33:25 PM
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Sans-serif. Not even once.

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Sans-serif :rejoice

Serif :kobeyuck

Mobo devs vs. bookworm typeface warZzz
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread - AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA SHENMUE HATERS AHAHAHAHAHA
Post by: Tasty on July 17, 2015, 02:47:00 PM
Web fonts :rejoice

Book fonts :ufup
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread - AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA SHENMUE HATERS AHAHAHAHAHA
Post by: Joe Molotov on July 17, 2015, 02:56:45 PM
font nerds  :cac
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread - AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA SHENMUE HATERS AHAHAHAHAHA
Post by: Human Snorenado on July 17, 2015, 03:41:28 PM
AHAHAHA the back tracking

Go back and listen to the Cruncheons that came out after E3- I've been remarkably consistent with my take on this.

I mean, I'll go ahead and let you enjoy this time before an actual product ships, because if there's one thing that is blatantly obvious, it's that people don't enjoy Shenmue for gameplay, so why should you be excited for more "game" to "play," you're just excited because you're feeling vindicated that your pet franchise is getting more life breathed into it. Congrats! Enjoy this time. Once the game comes out and is, at best, more of the same banal shit but in all probability just a fucking poorly put together mess, that's when the crows come home to roost, sister. And oh, the trolling that will happen.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread - AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA SHENMUE HATERS AHAHAHAHAHA
Post by: Himu on July 17, 2015, 05:20:31 PM
I love Shenmue for its gameplay.

:umad

And it is back tracking. What happened to WORST E3 EVER?!?!?!

:rofl

6 million incoming. 8)

Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread - AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA SHENMUE HATERS AHAHAHAHAHA
Post by: Human Snorenado on July 17, 2015, 05:50:31 PM
You love the Sims, though, so your opinions are super sus.

:yeshrug

Seriously, all you're really celebrating is that there are fewer than 75k people who really, really love Shenmue and that vague promises have been made. Congrats on having hope about your favorite series; I look forward to shitting all over that hope when a subpar game is released.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread - AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA SHENMUE HATERS AHAHAHAHAHA
Post by: Himu on July 17, 2015, 05:53:08 PM
Goddamn I can taste the salt from here. :mouf

Honestly you not liking the sims says more about you than it does me, and it what it says is,"I have limited gaming taste and cannot appreciate diverse gameplay styles" so I win out every time due to my eclectic taste. :rejoice

"I'm Triumph and I want every game to be the same which is why I like diablo so much clickclickclick"

Like, I can understand not liking The Sims, but in taste arguments, you will fail every time when actually trying to argue that The Sims is an a bad game.

Also I bet you Shenmue III will have more gameplay than Fallout 4: no mini map, no quest markers, no handholding. But you prop up a franchise that has become the definition of everything wrong modern AAA RPGs: a mollycoddling mainstream title that has so little faith in its users it has to tell them where every quest is and advertises itself as having "deep" moral choices such as bombing a valuable town for resources for no reason and no changes nor recognition in the game world and being a goody two shoes that completes Wasteland Survival Guide's just because. Bask in :mouf as Fallout 4 turns out to be a disappointment and has the writing of a teen novel.

You are what you hate. :umad
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread - AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA SHENMUE HATERS AHAHAHAHAHA
Post by: Human Snorenado on July 17, 2015, 05:59:48 PM
I really should bookmark all of this goddamn nonsense, but I'm so confident in a shitty product being delivered that there's really no need.

:jawalrus
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread - AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA SHENMUE HATERS AHAHAHAHAHA
Post by: Himu on July 17, 2015, 06:02:20 PM
You can't handle the truth. Especially the truth that You love Fallout 3, a game with worse first person shooting than Chex Quest but you always talk about the "game" part of other games while propping up a franchise where 90% of your time is spent in dialogue windows.

:rofl
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread - AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA SHENMUE HATERS AHAHAHAHAHA
Post by: Human Snorenado on July 17, 2015, 06:09:08 PM
Fallout 3 isn't really meant to be played for it's shooting, and I don't love it because of that; I love it because it's a big fucking sandbox full of fun stuff to do, and I love post-apocalyptic settings.

Look, whatever. I'm not going to get drawn into this bullshit with you. You're happy about this Shenmue thing. Congratulations. We'll talk again in a couple years when a shitty game on par but most likely WAY WORSE than the first two comes out, and I'll troll you until you cry and leave the forum for a month. It's the circle of Himumu. I love you to death, but goddamn. Find an even keel.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread - AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA SHENMUE HATERS AHAHAHAHAHA
Post by: Himu on July 17, 2015, 06:10:13 PM
All these excuses. :rejoice
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread - AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA SHENMUE HATERS AHAHAHAHAHA
Post by: Great Rumbler on July 17, 2015, 06:14:20 PM
I really should bookmark all of this goddamn nonsense, but I'm so confident in a shitty product being delivered that there's really no need.

:jawalrus

Nah, we're gonna HOF this thread for future reference.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread - AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA SHENMUE HATERS AHAHAHAHAHA
Post by: Human Snorenado on July 17, 2015, 06:20:15 PM
All these excuses. :rejoice

I'm still not sure wtf you're talking about. The only thing this has proven is that around 67,000 people are willing to put down an average of $90 each to be disappointed. What, exactly, am I making excuses for? That Shenmue 3 is getting made? Look how it had to happen.

Again, please, enjoy this time. This is your day of jubilee. Upon release, I get my turn.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread - 6 MILLION
Post by: Himu on July 17, 2015, 06:22:52 PM
If Shenmue III is a modern classic and it makes the haters look even more silly :rejoice

They can't even let Shenmue fans have this. Naw, gotta wah wah while we making 6 million. rejoice

It's been 15 years and he can't just let go! :bow Suzuki's Magic :bow2
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread - 6 MILLION
Post by: Tasty on July 17, 2015, 06:26:51 PM
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Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread - AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA SHENMUE HATERS AHAHAHAHAHA
Post by: VomKriege on July 17, 2015, 06:31:03 PM
Only if you assume it's dramatic. It's fairly accurate, but all you are willing to do is troll and conflate hyperbolic comparisons.  Tell me how the fanbase, franchise, and Suzuki were not mistreated? Suzuki could not get a job.

So what ? Tough shit for him although not totally unexpected, having massive games bombing and your company going through hard times can do that, fair or not. Fans were not fired from their job for being fans. Being the butt of jokes in the internet videogaming community is not really what I would call mistreatment.

You're doing great in the challenge with The Last of Us fandom, however.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread - 6 MILLION
Post by: Himu on July 17, 2015, 06:38:06 PM
For someone who doesn't seem to care about Shenmue you sure do like posting in this thread. :lol define it what you want, it was highly annoying and the only one being dramatic here is you. I said my piece a page back. You just need to deal with it. Whether being the butt of gamings jokes is mistreatment or not, the general disrespect towards Suzuki was never warranted and doesn't mean any of us have to like it.

this is the part where you compare this to Nazi Germany while pointing fingers that people are being dramatic, yes?
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread - 6 MILLION
Post by: Himu on July 17, 2015, 06:40:13 PM
All you have to do to is look at this page full of haters. They can't shut the fuck up, because they know they lost while they stink up a positive congratulatory thread for a series they don't even like. This is the nature of Shenmue haters: endlessly butthurt. :rofl
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread - 6 MILLION
Post by: mormapope on July 17, 2015, 06:45:54 PM
For someone who doesn't seem to care about Shenmue you sure do like posting in this thread. :lol define it what you want, it was highly annoying and the only one being dramatic here is you. I said my piece a page back. You just need to deal with it. Whether being the butt of gamings jokes is mistreatment or not, the general disrespect towards Suzuki was never warranted and doesn't mean any of us have to like it.

this is the part where you compare this to Nazi Germany while pointing fingers that people are being dramatic, yes?

Every prolific videogame designer or director has been shit on by the tons by all communities online. Hideo Kojima gets told to direct movies instead of games. David Cage doesn't even get that much praise with the shit talk, people hate everything that he touches. Ken Levine is now viewed as a heel turn hack because Bioshock Infinite didn't satisfy everybody. The Houser Brothers are viewed as hacks that are apparently the worst writers on the planet. The people at Square Enix have been dumped on every minute since FFXIII's release in 2009.

And you know what? Almost all of these people are successful even though they get shit on constantly. The only difference between people disrespecting those devs compared to Yu Suzuki is Yu has been in Sega's basement for more than a decade.

Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread - 6 MILLION
Post by: Human Snorenado on July 17, 2015, 06:50:52 PM
All you have to do to is look at this page full of haters. They can't shut the fuck up, because they know they lost while they stink up a positive congratulatory thread for a series they don't even like. This is the nature of Shenmue haters: endlessly butthurt. :rofl

Literally every post I have said, "Please enjoy this time, I'll argue with you when there's a finished game"

You're too busy trying to spike a ball at midfield to realize you haven't gotten into the fucking endzone, you lunatic
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread - AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA SHENMUE HATERS AHAHAHAHAHA
Post by: Kara on July 17, 2015, 06:51:27 PM
font nerds  :cac

Yo momma's so fat they call her Superblack Heavy Ultra Extended.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread - 6 MILLION
Post by: Himu on July 17, 2015, 06:51:54 PM
For someone who doesn't seem to care about Shenmue you sure do like posting in this thread. :lol define it what you want, it was highly annoying and the only one being dramatic here is you. I said my piece a page back. You just need to deal with it. Whether being the butt of gamings jokes is mistreatment or not, the general disrespect towards Suzuki was never warranted and doesn't mean any of us have to like it.

this is the part where you compare this to Nazi Germany while pointing fingers that people are being dramatic, yes?

Every prolific videogame designer or director has been shit on by the tons by all communities online. Hideo Kojima gets told to direct movies instead of games. David Cage doesn't even get that much praise with the shit talk, people hate everything that he touches. Kevin Levine is now viewed as a heel turn hack because Bioshock Infinite didn't satisfy everybody. The Houser Brothers are viewed as hacks that are apparently the worst writers on the planet. The people at Square Enix have been dumped on every minute since FFXIII's release in 2009.

And you know what? Almost all of these people are successful even though they get shit on constantly. The only difference between people disrespecting those devs compared to Yu Suzuki is Yu has been in Sega's basement for more than a decade.

Where did I say Suzuki got shit? Suzuki got nothing. His career treated like a joke. A man whose last directorial game was an all time classic - virtua fighter 4 - and the gaming press had the opportunity to interview him in a Q&A and belittled him in a professional business setting. I highly suggest watching it. Then you can know what you're talking about on any level. Those developers got shit, true. But their opinions and experiences were valued. Suzuki was treated like a joke. Not liking this at all however puts Shenmue fans on par with TLOU fans though, I guess! Despite any grievance being warranted.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread - 6 MILLION
Post by: Human Snorenado on July 17, 2015, 06:52:40 PM
Maybe those two Shenmue games are just THAT FUCKING BAD, Himuro

:yeshrug
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread - 6 MILLION
Post by: Joe Molotov on July 17, 2015, 06:53:16 PM
I wish Himu had came up with that extra $4 Million so we could have gotten more than Shenmue III: Hidden Object Adventure, but I guess this is alright. :-\
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread - 6 MILLION
Post by: cool breeze on July 17, 2015, 06:54:59 PM
i decided to up my pledge to the ps4 retail.  it's a bad idea but might as well go full bore nostalgia here.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread - 6 MILLION
Post by: Himu on July 17, 2015, 06:55:16 PM
Maybe those two Shenmue games are just THAT FUCKING BAD, Himuro

:yeshrug

I'm pretty sure half the press that was there hadn't even played them.

:yeshrug
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread - 6 MILLION
Post by: mormapope on July 17, 2015, 06:56:06 PM
Where did I say Suzuki got shit? Suzuki got nothing. His career treated like a joke. A man whose last directorial game was an all time classic - virtua fighter 4 - and the gaming press had the opportunity to interview him in a Q&A and belittled him in a professional business setting. I highly suggest watching it. Then you can know what you're talking about on any level. Those developers got shit, true. But their opinions and experiences were valued. Suzuki was treated like a joke.

Who in the gaming press?

Looking up Yu Suzuki Virtua Fighter 4 warranted random videos and this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=blvsIhT65g4
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread - 6 MILLION
Post by: Great Rumbler on July 17, 2015, 06:56:56 PM
Yeah, I think literally no one here other than Himu knows what incident she's talking about.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread - 6 MILLION
Post by: Himu on July 17, 2015, 06:57:34 PM
GDC Shenmue postmortem Q&A. There's a Q&A after the post mortem. Those are all "professionals".
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread - 6 MILLION
Post by: VomKriege on July 17, 2015, 07:01:00 PM
For someone who doesn't seem to care about Shenmue you sure do like posting in this thread. :lol define it what you want, it was highly annoying and the only one being dramatic here is you. I said my piece a page back. You just need to deal with it. Whether being the butt of gamings jokes is mistreatment or not, the general disrespect towards Suzuki was never warranted and doesn't mean any of us have to like it.

this is the part where you compare this to Nazi Germany while pointing fingers that people are being dramatic, yes?

Already did that, man (I have a good one with the destruction of Shenmhatera and a pillar of salt. Needs work.). Now just scratching my head at living vicariously the hardships of a game designer I guess  :itagaki (Well not this one, but the YS smiley is not there yet).
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread - 6 MILLION
Post by: VomKriege on July 17, 2015, 07:03:27 PM
Yeah, I think literally no one here other than Himu knows what incident she's talking about.

In defense of Himuro, we are still a long way to an Alternate Reality Game  :uguu
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread - 6 MILLION
Post by: Great Rumbler on July 17, 2015, 07:05:06 PM
GDC Shenmue postmortem Q&A. There's a Q&A after the post mortem. Those are all "professionals".

I'm looking at it right and I'm not seeing anything that is remotely like what you're talking about.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread - 6 MILLION
Post by: mormapope on July 17, 2015, 07:06:54 PM
GDC Shenmue postmortem Q&A. There's a Q&A after the post mortem. Those are all "professionals".

Can't find a video of this, but reading the questions from here...
http://www.seganerds.com/2014/03/19/yu-suzukis-shenmue-postmortem-qa-recap/

Sounds like normal questions to me.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread - 6 MILLION
Post by: Himu on July 17, 2015, 07:09:16 PM
For someone who doesn't seem to care about Shenmue you sure do like posting in this thread. :lol define it what you want, it was highly annoying and the only one being dramatic here is you. I said my piece a page back. You just need to deal with it. Whether being the butt of gamings jokes is mistreatment or not, the general disrespect towards Suzuki was never warranted and doesn't mean any of us have to like it.

this is the part where you compare this to Nazi Germany while pointing fingers that people are being dramatic, yes?

Already did that, man (I have a good one with the destruction of Shenmhatera and a pillar of salt. Needs work.). Now just scratching my head at living vicariously the hardships of a game designer I guess  :itagaki (Well not this one, but the YS smiley is not there yet).

Who said anything about living vicariously? :lol

It just got highly annoying over the years, is all. Shenmue had been treated like a joke. Now it's made 6 million. It felt like vindication, is all. Instead, you decide to turn something happy and positive into some stupid ass overly dramatic hyperbole comparing to WW2 atrocities. Do you realize you sound like the dumbest person here?
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread - 6 MILLION
Post by: Kara on July 17, 2015, 07:15:25 PM
Himu stop letting them shit up our day. :gurl

6 million raised. :preach

New record pledge. :preach

Fastest to a million or w/e. :preach

Getting shit done with #positivity. :preach
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread - 6 MILLION
Post by: Himu on July 17, 2015, 07:18:35 PM
GDC Shenmue postmortem Q&A. There's a Q&A after the post mortem. Those are all "professionals".

Can't find a video of this, but reading the questions from here...
http://www.seganerds.com/2014/03/19/yu-suzukis-shenmue-postmortem-qa-recap/

Sounds like normal questions to me.

You have to think within the context of the time.

At the time, Cerny said clearly and plainly that they would only answer ONE question in relation to Shenmue III or Suzuki would walk off the stage and the Q&A would end.

No one knew if III would come. At that point, the question was redundant and tongue and cheek jab. It's first question that's asked. He doesn't ask how Yu been thinking of ways to POSSIBLY release Shenmue III. He asks,"When will Shenmue III be released?". A light jab, because he certainly KNOWS that Yu isn't working III at that point, but he wants to take the piss anyways.

Some guy asks a random question about Space Harrier. He doesn't even care, despite this being a post mortem for Shenmue.

Maybe I'm being over sensitive over the QA. I don't know. All I know is that at the time it angered me.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread - 6 MILLION
Post by: Himu on July 17, 2015, 07:19:30 PM
Himu stop letting them shit up our day. :gurl

6 million raised. :preach

New record pledge. :preach

Fastest to a million or w/e. :preach

Getting shit done with #positivity. :preach

It's impossible for them to ruin this day but it seems just as impossible for them to not shit up this thread further by comparing things to WW2 atrocities like a fucking distinguished mentally-challenged fellow.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread - 6 MILLION
Post by: Great Rumbler on July 17, 2015, 07:19:59 PM
GDC Shenmue postmortem Q&A. There's a Q&A after the post mortem. Those are all "professionals".

Can't find a video of this, but reading the questions from here...
http://www.seganerds.com/2014/03/19/yu-suzukis-shenmue-postmortem-qa-recap/

Sounds like normal questions to me.

You have to think within the context of the time.

At the time, Cerny said clearly and plainly that they would only answer ONE question in relation to Shenmue III or Suzuki would walk off the stage and the Q&A would end.

No one knew if III would come. At that point, the question was redundant and tongue and cheek jab. It's first question that's asked. He doesn't ask how Yu been thinking of ways to POSSIBLY release Shenmue III. He asks,"When will Shenmue III be released?". A light jab, because he certainly KNOWS that Yu isn't working III at that point, but he wants to take the piss anyways.

Some guy asks a random question about Space Harrier. He doesn't even care, despite this being a post mortem for Shenmue.

Maybe I'm being over sensitive over the QA. I don't know. All I know is that at the time I angered me.

 :snoop :snoop :snoop :snoop :snoop :snoop :snoop
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread - 6 MILLION
Post by: Kara on July 17, 2015, 07:29:42 PM
Banal is a really negative term too, Himu. Everyday is the actual word but the person asking the question chose that one instead.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread - 6 MILLION
Post by: Himu on July 17, 2015, 07:32:23 PM
Banal is a really negative term too, Himu. Everyday is the actual word but the person asking the question chose that one instead.

Yeah I wasn't fond of that word choice, either.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread - 6 MILLION
Post by: Human Snorenado on July 17, 2015, 07:32:53 PM
GDC Shenmue postmortem Q&A. There's a Q&A after the post mortem. Those are all "professionals".

Shitting on Yu Suzuki at a Q&A after a Shenmue postmortem seems pretty warranted, considering that the series was a colossal fucking failure. Good job for once, gaming press!
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread - 6 MILLION
Post by: Great Rumbler on July 17, 2015, 07:40:33 PM
GDC Shenmue postmortem Q&A. There's a Q&A after the post mortem. Those are all "professionals".

Shitting on Yu Suzuki at a Q&A after a Shenmue postmortem seems pretty warranted, considering that the series was a colossal fucking failure. Good job for once, gaming press!

Well, if that was their intention, then they completely botched it. Not a single one of them ran up to the mic and yelled "Your game sucks and your face is dumb!" What a truly sad day for the gaming press.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread - 6 MILLION
Post by: Human Snorenado on July 17, 2015, 07:41:38 PM
GDC Shenmue postmortem Q&A. There's a Q&A after the post mortem. Those are all "professionals".

Shitting on Yu Suzuki at a Q&A after a Shenmue postmortem seems pretty warranted, considering that the series was a colossal fucking failure. Good job for once, gaming press!

Well, if that was their intention, then they completely botched it. Not a single one of them ran up to the mic and yelled "Your game sucks and your face is dumb!" What a truly sad day for the gaming press.

Fuck, I take it back. Fuck you, gaming press.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread - 6 MILLION
Post by: Trent Dole on July 17, 2015, 07:58:08 PM
Himu stop letting them shit up our day. :gurl

6 million raised. :preach

New record pledge. :preach

Fastest to a million or w/e. :preach

Getting shit done with #positivity. :preach
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GF8aaTu2kg0
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread - $6,333,295! WE DID IT!
Post by: Himu on July 17, 2015, 09:55:24 PM
 $6,333,295

we did it guys

:tocry

Oh my god. Shenmue's future starts NOW. :tocry

Paypal announced.

Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread - $6,333,295! WE DID IT!
Post by: Tasty on July 17, 2015, 09:57:52 PM
Congrats Himu and Kara. :)

...sheeeiiit, that's means they're gonna charge my card now, lol. Forgot about that.

Eh, $100 shouldn't be too bad.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread - $6,333,295! WE DID IT!
Post by: Kara on July 17, 2015, 10:00:13 PM
Ryo

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Cave!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :preach
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread - $6,333,295! WE DID IT!
Post by: Tasty on July 17, 2015, 10:01:19 PM
Now where's that MML3 Kickstarter :hitler

And don't give me that "Red Ash" crap. :comeon
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread - $6,333,295! WE DID IT!
Post by: cool breeze on July 17, 2015, 10:03:59 PM
in 2018 (optimistic) I can be playing shenmue 3   :clap

then I can move on to begging for shenmue 4  :omg

Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread - $6,333,295! WE DID IT!
Post by: Positive Touch on July 17, 2015, 10:11:01 PM
Now where's that MML3 Kickstarter :hitler

And don't give me that "Red Ash" crap. :comeon

who in gods name could have hope for red ash after we've all seen how number 9s development has been?
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread - $6,333,295! WE DID IT!
Post by: Barraco Barner on July 17, 2015, 10:12:17 PM
Yu Suzuki would have only raised a miserly $6,333,266 if it were not for my charitable heart.

You're welcome.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread - $6,333,295! WE DID IT!
Post by: Himu on July 17, 2015, 10:13:29 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/1hobNNV.png)

Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread - $6,333,295! WE DID IT!
Post by: qq more on July 17, 2015, 11:26:05 PM
Now where's that MML3 Kickstarter :hitler

And don't give me that "Red Ash" crap. :comeon

who in gods name could have hope for red ash after we've all seen how number 9s development has been?
Yeah seriously. I am a huge fan of the Mega Man series and even I didn't even bother with Red Ash, despite wanting MML3 so bad.

Fuckin' Inafune. The whole thing about MN09 has become a mess.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread - $6,333,295! WE DID IT!
Post by: tiesto on July 17, 2015, 11:30:53 PM
I kickstarted MN9 ages ago but haven't really been paying much attention to its development. Apart from playing a bit at TooManyGames, and it seemed decent enough. What happened with it?
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread - $6,333,295! WE DID IT!
Post by: Supermanisdead on July 17, 2015, 11:59:24 PM
wow..... speackless. this is a great day in history. i want to thank the fans. i want to thank the lord, the most gracious the most merciful

yu suzuki is coming for wigs with shenmue 3.

ryo hazuki will come out of the cave. the icon         the legend.



and 2 all the haters. u truly thot. (http://i.imgur.com/zDJCnhP.gif) (http://i.imgur.com/zDJCnhP.gif)

"it was a failure"
"its boring"
"bad va"

u tried it.

let me say 1 thing:

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(http://i.imgur.com/8Tj7Fhe.gif)6 million american dollars(http://i.imgur.com/8Tj7Fhe.gif)





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Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread - $6,333,295! WE DID IT!
Post by: Icon A on July 18, 2015, 12:03:19 AM
how many college tuitions could be paid with 6 million dollars
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread - $6,333,295! WE DID IT!
Post by: Supermanisdead on July 18, 2015, 12:06:43 AM
how many college tuitions could be paid with 6 million dollars

still not enough for you to learn how to be a normal human being you worthless scum
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread - $6,333,295! WE DID IT!
Post by: Joe Molotov on July 18, 2015, 12:22:51 AM
Ryo

Is

Getting

Out

Of

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Cave!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :preach

What if the whole game takes place in the cave tho? :hitler
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread - $6,333,295! WE DID IT!
Post by: Himu on July 18, 2015, 12:25:04 AM
Beating Shenmue 2 now. On disc 4.

www.twitch.tv/shenmuedojo
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread - $6,333,295! WE DID IT!
Post by: Himu on July 18, 2015, 02:59:41 AM
This post :brazilcry

Quote
Congrats everyone. We did it. :) Only just returning to this thread now but I've been hovering over the Shenmue threads, the Kickstarter page and Yu's twitch stream all night. Pressed for time tonight so only just now getting a chance to respond.

I want to stress just how much of a ridiculous and unexpected success this actually is. Over the coming days we're going to see waves of negativity from those less informed than the awesome gamers that inhabit this forum to the tune of things like "oh no 10 million wasn't reached so epic fail" when this statement and proclamations that echo the same sentiment are flat-out wrong. Let's put this in to context for a second:

Yu Suzuki is a gaming legend whose only equal is Miyamoto. Sony is the number one platform holder who've held the most successful console business of all-time since 1994. Both Yu Suzuki and Sony's third party relations team firmly believed that a possible and realistic goal for Shenmue 3 would be a hard and attainable 2 million. 2 million is the goal that after all their investigative research, all their projected forecasts, all their effort and energy spent in to deriving just how much demand there was for Shenmue was a goal that realistically speaking they believed they might reach to get this game funded.

Together we united as caring and passionate fans and generated 6.3 million; more than three times the amount that people who should theoretically know far better than us thought they could realistically and possibly reach and achieve. Three times the amount that even Sony believed they could realistically hope to achieve. We blew. Their expectations. Out of the water. Yu Suzuki had the most happy and profound smile in that stream, a smile that eventually led to tears because even he was massively stunned and shocked at the ridiculous, far reaching and contagious love for Shenmue that echoed over the vista of the games sphere this past month. He was overwhelmed with happiness and emotion because we went above and beyond even the expectations he held in his most vivid dreams.

Never forget: 2 million was the realistic and achievable target determined by both Yu and a fucking platform holder. We stand today emotionally exhausted, elated that this game is coming and with the highest funded video game Kickstarter of all-time. Shenmue beat every other game there is and beat them by a significant margin. What we achieved was wonderful and to echo other posters here an emotional roller coaster of an experience for everyone involved. This campaign is an epically massive success. Make no mistake, this sentiment is entirely correct. There is no possible argument against this. We have the numbers. We succeeded and we succeeded massively. And if you think this ends here; just wait for the love to continue in to the rivers of time as we push for extra funding and Shenmue HD.

Shenmue 1 and 2 are IMO the most ambient, emotional, atmospheric and immersive games of all-time. Lovingly crafted, beautifully realised, emotionally resonant, truly wonderful experiences that are some of the most special games I've ever experienced in my entire life.

We are getting a sequel to those games. It's not a dream any more, because the dream just became real.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread - $6,333,295! WE DID IT!
Post by: qq more on July 18, 2015, 10:46:11 AM
Ryo

Is

Getting

Out

Of

That

F
U
C
K
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Cave!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :preach

What if the whole game takes place in the cave tho? :hitler
Must find cavemen.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread - $6,333,295! WE DID IT!
Post by: Himu on July 18, 2015, 11:22:19 AM
CAVE SIM
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread - $6,333,295! WE DID IT!
Post by: Kara on July 18, 2015, 11:30:57 AM
TBH I'm deathly afraid of Shenmue 3 being a Platonic meditation on the nature of reality. In a cave.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread - $6,333,295! WE DID IT!
Post by: Kara on July 18, 2015, 12:19:42 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/lb6WBmt.jpg)

:preach
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread - $6,333,295! WE DID IT!
Post by: Himu on July 18, 2015, 12:24:01 PM
:preach

Got the same email. I can't believe!
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread - $6,333,295! WE DID IT!
Post by: Himu on July 20, 2015, 03:10:47 PM
This video is perfection.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XCX-BC-9bIE
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread - $6,333,295! WE DID IT!
Post by: Himu on July 22, 2015, 02:21:24 AM
https://twitter.com/SST_V/status/623686139740712960

:hyper
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread - $6,333,295! WE DID IT!
Post by: Lucretius on July 22, 2015, 08:58:53 AM
https://twitter.com/SST_V/status/623686139740712960

:hyper

It's a ringtone.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread - $6,333,295! WE DID IT!
Post by: Himu on July 22, 2015, 10:26:03 AM
https://twitter.com/SST_V/status/623686139740712960

:hyper

It's a ringtone.

It's also Sega acknowledging Shenmue and taking advantage of a situation. Despite having a record KS, or the entire situation at all, Sega has yet to comment on Shenmue III at all. Yet they make a pr statement about trying to gain back customer trust. Sega kind of ignores Shenmue at large. For instance, it was left out of Sega's milestones a little while back. They pretend it doesn't exist. So it's more than a ringtone, actually. And could hint that Sega isn't as stupid as we think they are and will ignore the demand for 1 and 2 HD, but since it's Sega - who hates money - even that's not really a guarantee.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread - $6,333,295! WE DID IT!
Post by: Lucretius on July 22, 2015, 10:54:01 AM
Sega is as stupid as we think they are.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread - $6,333,295! WE DID IT!
Post by: Himu on July 22, 2015, 11:16:33 AM
:tocry
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread - $6,333,295! WE DID IT!
Post by: VomKriege on July 22, 2015, 11:38:09 AM
Shenmue HD ports being a money maker for Sega might be arguable. If one was to be narrow, all the KS proves is that there's 70k people ready to throw money at Shenmue, how much sales would that translate to ? (The PSN Resident Evil HD remake broke over a million in April 2015, as a point of comparison). Besides if they should ever do that, wouldn't it make more sense to release them closer to Shenmue 3 release ? I guess you could say they could have surfed on the KS buzz too but obviously having a finished product under such delays was probably impossible.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread - $6,333,295! WE DID IT!
Post by: Himu on July 22, 2015, 11:51:33 AM
Shenmue 1/2 HD also have problems. In the credits of both games, there's a huge, huge, long list of licenses and stuff that help create the games. So it creates an issue of likely paying for those licenses. It's pretty much rumored what's been holding Shenmue 1/2 HD from being released now. You could infer it would be better to release them closer to the release of III. That said, an announcement isn't the same as a release. If I were Sega, and license issues would bear no trouble, I would do a stagger release. Release 1 in 2016 and and II in 2017.

Things that need to be done for a Shenmue 1/2 HD release:

- Dual analog support, this means right stick for camera
- Better walking controls. II already had better controls by having analog controls. Untanking the controls, or making it smooth to control via analog would be a big help as getting used to the controls is the largest initial barrier in Shenmue 1

I think both of those are requirements.

It also has to be said that REmake is the greatest game remake of all time. It deserves those sales, and it really helps that it had only been Gamecube/Wii exclusive prior to now so not everyone who wanted to play it got to.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread - $6,333,295! WE DID IT!
Post by: Tasty on July 22, 2015, 12:13:28 PM
https://twitter.com/SST_V/status/623686139740712960

:hyper

It's a ringtone.

:dead :dead :dead
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread - $6,333,295! WE DID IT!
Post by: VomKriege on July 23, 2015, 12:06:20 AM
I always read that Shenmue HD ports were more or less done, but is this solid information ? Also, good point on the possible licensing issues.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread - $6,333,295! WE DID IT!
Post by: Himu on July 23, 2015, 12:09:47 AM
They are done but again, licensing, and the other DC ports bombed - even JSR - despite demand. So they killed them. Paying for the license and then having the thing bomb? Nawwww.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread - $6,333,295! WE DID IT!
Post by: VomKriege on July 24, 2015, 12:57:39 AM
They are done...

My question was about the source of this. Is this rooted in anything ?
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread - $6,333,295! WE DID IT!
Post by: Himu on July 24, 2015, 11:35:36 AM
It was listed on dev xbla.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread - $6,333,295! WE DID IT!
Post by: milchs evil twin on July 25, 2015, 08:21:41 PM
This video is perfection.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XCX-BC-9bIE

I really think Shenmue is among the very first 3D games that didn't age completely terribly visually.

Although maybe that's just the nostalgia talking, and if my first games had been on PS1 or 360, I would think completely differently about that.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread - $6,333,295! WE DID IT!
Post by: Himu on July 25, 2015, 10:13:51 PM
I don't think so. I first played it in 2006 and thought it looked better than next generation games at the time like Oblivion. I find its aesthetic timeless even if some of the textures have aged or the fact the mouths don't actually move, it looks so good and both games have an incredible sense of place. Consider that Shenmue 1 came out two years after Final Fantasy VII.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread - $6,333,295! WE DID IT!
Post by: Positive Touch on July 25, 2015, 11:34:36 PM
pc gaming tho
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread - $6,333,295! WE DID IT!
Post by: Himu on July 26, 2015, 12:03:43 AM
What about it?

Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread - $6,333,295! WE DID IT!
Post by: Positive Touch on July 26, 2015, 01:27:29 AM
pc gaming had some good graphics way before Shenmue
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread - $6,333,295! WE DID IT!
Post by: Himu on July 26, 2015, 02:03:13 AM
Oh. Duh.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread - $6,333,295! WE DID IT!
Post by: Van Cruncheon on July 26, 2015, 05:29:09 PM
i liked shenmue better when they made it interesting, visually appealing, and playable as sleeping dogs
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread - $6,333,295! WE DID IT!
Post by: Himu on July 26, 2015, 05:33:28 PM
I still haven't played that. I have it on steam but have trouble running it.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread - $6,333,295! WE DID IT!
Post by: Positive Touch on July 26, 2015, 10:58:13 PM
it's pretty damn awesome
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread - $6,333,295! WE DID IT!
Post by: milchs evil twin on July 27, 2015, 10:05:17 AM
I just remembered how much I hated the ending of Shenmue II back then.

Not only the cliffhanger, but also that it turned to fantasy to a degree that wasn't really evident before.

The main reason I loved Shenmue was how real a lot of it felt, and floating swords didn't really fit into that...

I've mostly accepted it since, I guess.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread - $6,333,295! WE DID IT!
Post by: Himu on July 27, 2015, 12:45:58 PM
I suggest replaying disc 4 now that it's announced.

I thought disc 4 was one of the most amazing story accomplishments in a game. But it was also sad because that's when the game was about to end and a reminder that we weren't going to be getting III.

But after III announcement it's a preview for III and it's even more amazing.

Shenmue has always had fantasy. Shenhua talks about a prophecy that will be fulfilled between her and some man in the east. Ryo dreams of a foreign girl the very day he gets the Phoenix Mirror. He dreams of prophecy and destiny and they don't even meet in the first game, showing just how large in scope the journey he is getting into is. I'm pretty fine with the magic because it was always hinted, and the world of Shenmue is one with subject low fantasy anyways. Jianmin touches a tree and a rush of leaves fall. When Xiuying is practicing Bajiquan the ground shakes. Baji is known for its ground shaking style irl, but in Shenmue it almost seems hinted at as literal. Shenhua can recall the memories of ancestors, use Ki, and it's hinted she is reincarnated, we don't know.

There's even these scenes in I:

http://youtu.be/m6sqmuTd-6c

I've never had a big issue with the way the fantasy is presented, because it does so in a far more elegant manner than other games. In other games, magic is innate. In Shenmue, it's tied to myths and prophecy that is subdued. Ryo has prophecy dreams but they could easily just be taken as dreams, and he doesn't even remember them. I've always liked that. I've also always enjoyed how it manages to mix Chinese cosmology and religion into the story without going overboard, again, like other games with fantasy. I'd say Shenmue's low fantasy is probably one of the best story accomplishments in a game in how it portrays it with an actual sense of mystery and wonder.

Also, if you rewatch II's ending you'll notice the sword doesn't float by itself. That's Shenhua using her Ki to make it float.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread - $6,333,295! WE DID IT!
Post by: Kara on July 27, 2015, 02:03:31 PM
Also, if you rewatch II's ending you'll notice the sword doesn't float by itself. That's Shenhua using her Ki to make it float.

:snoop
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread - $6,333,295! WE DID IT!
Post by: Himu on July 27, 2015, 02:12:00 PM
:lol

Just clarifying. A lot of people actually think the sword is floating by itself. For real.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread - $6,333,295! WE DID IT!
Post by: milchs evil twin on July 27, 2015, 08:33:42 PM
Fucking love the graphics still.

In many ways, there's still nothing like it.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread - $6,333,295! WE DID IT!
Post by: Himu on July 27, 2015, 08:45:38 PM
Agreed. When I replayed 1 last month there was this lady with this wonderfully extravagant and detailed peacoat. It's just a random npc in the office you work at. I never realized how detailed her clothes are until now.

(http://i.imgur.com/Z6alZM7.jpg)

Look at that fucking SCARF.

And it's a random NPC with no importance towards the story and look at all that detail on her her clothes. :lawd
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread - $6,333,295! WE DID IT!
Post by: Supermanisdead on July 27, 2015, 09:29:28 PM
those types of things are so amazing and its hard to explain to people why shenmue is just so fucking crazy. like a shop u will probably never enter is actually fully modeled inside with all completely unique textures and shit. its just crazy
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread - $6,333,295! WE DID IT!
Post by: Van Cruncheon on July 27, 2015, 09:45:42 PM
itt gafthink
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread - $6,333,295! WE DID IT!
Post by: Van Cruncheon on July 27, 2015, 09:46:08 PM
you brehs check out the order 1886? it has some amazing models and textures
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread - $6,333,295! WE DID IT!
Post by: Kara on July 27, 2015, 10:07:08 PM
It's 2015, why would I play a Sony exclusive?
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread - $6,333,295! WE DID IT!
Post by: Himu on July 27, 2015, 10:08:15 PM
I think this sequence of posts perfectly highlights how pathetic Shenmue haters are. They can't let it go. They have to bomb into a happy, positive thread because they prefer playing games made for pedophiles instead. :yeshrug Truly a shame.

those types of things are so amazing and its hard to explain to people why shenmue is just so fucking crazy. like a shop u will probably never enter is actually fully modeled inside with all completely unique textures and shit. its just crazy

One of my favorite things about the games is how many hidden things there are. It's impossible to see or do everything on one play through.

For my Shenmue II stream, I did something I ddn't even know was in the game: getting your own duck. Now, I knew about duck races a long time ago. But that was just regular ol' betting. But you can unlock your own duck to race in the duck races that you control. It took a while, because the initial stats are shit, but after enough leveling up you can win the race! It gets even tougher, though, because after you win, you race against mallards and ducklings that are way, way faster than the normal white ducks you usually race with.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread - $6,333,295! WE DID IT!
Post by: Supermanisdead on July 27, 2015, 10:23:52 PM
 :(
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread - $6,333,295! WE DID IT!
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on July 28, 2015, 09:45:30 AM
Don't let the haters get you down Himuro. Everyone enjoys different aspects of games.

It's 2015, why would I buy a MS console?

More accurate.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread - $6,333,295! WE DID IT!
Post by: Joe Molotov on July 28, 2015, 01:32:34 PM
It's 2015, why would I play a Sony exclusive?

Cuz Nintendo and Microsoft won't certify Darling Pantsu Raider ~Desu Desu My Heart~
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread - $6,333,295! WE DID IT!
Post by: Kara on July 28, 2015, 02:09:14 PM
Why would Nintendo certify a competitor to Fire Emblem? :hitler
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread - $6,333,295! WE DID IT!
Post by: Fifstar on July 28, 2015, 03:15:28 PM
Don't let the haters get you down Himuro. Everyone enjoys different aspects of games.

It's 2015, why would I buy a console?

More accurate.

Yeah
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread - $6,333,295! WE DID IT!
Post by: seagrams hotsauce on July 29, 2015, 01:38:01 AM
dp
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread - $6,333,295! WE DID IT!
Post by: seagrams hotsauce on July 29, 2015, 01:38:37 AM

Himu, what's the easiest and/or cheapest way to play Shenmue II? I've been trying to bootleg it and it's a pain in the ass.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread - $6,333,295! WE DID IT!
Post by: Himu on July 29, 2015, 02:07:59 AM
Emulate it.

I'll send you the details via pm if you're interested.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread - $6,333,295! WE DID IT!
Post by: seagrams hotsauce on July 31, 2015, 12:20:07 AM
Please do. I've tried and failed a few times and I appreciate any tips.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread - $6,333,295! WE DID IT!
Post by: Himu on July 31, 2015, 12:51:52 AM
Pm sent
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread - $6,333,295! WE DID IT!
Post by: Bebpo on July 31, 2015, 04:38:11 PM
i liked shenmue better when they made it interesting, visually appealing, and playable as sleeping dogs

You mean Yakuza.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread - $6,333,295! WE DID IT!
Post by: Human Snorenado on July 31, 2015, 06:15:54 PM
i liked shenmue better when they made it interesting, visually appealing, and playable as sleeping dogs

You mean Yakuza.

No, he meant Sleeping Dogs.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread - $6,333,295! WE DID IT!
Post by: Himu on July 31, 2015, 06:50:21 PM
Shenmue 1 and 2 are pretty great. Much better than those games. :smug
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread - $6,333,295! WE DID IT!
Post by: Himu on July 31, 2015, 07:17:10 PM
Yup.

It's understandable to want to compare Sleeping Dogs and Yakuza to Shenmue because, I mean, how they top those two games? They can't. But it's time to let things go.

Like Elsa.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread - $6,333,295! WE DID IT!
Post by: Human Snorenado on July 31, 2015, 07:18:04 PM
"You know what this game could use, is a boring ass narrative and a forklift"
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread - $6,333,295! WE DID IT!
Post by: Himu on July 31, 2015, 07:27:50 PM
It's really understandable to want games to have the more long paced style of Shenmue. Every other game is about thrills all the time! While Shenmue is about slow build up and ebbs and flows, something other games just can't understand or appreciate! It's perfectly understandable to be asking those questions and I completely agree with you.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread - $6,333,295! WE DID IT!
Post by: Human Snorenado on July 31, 2015, 07:50:01 PM
Shoving a guy's face into a fan in Sleeping Dogs was more satisfying than anything that happened in either Shenmue game. Shit, ALL of the things that happened in both games.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread - $6,333,295! WE DID IT!
Post by: Himu on July 31, 2015, 07:50:31 PM
Shenmue III kick off meeting. It's happening! :hyper

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CLF_0wQUkAA_Om_.jpg)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CLBirV5WwAA8wE4.jpg)

(http://s8.postimg.org/48dy2wbid/Untitled.png)

Suzuki-san even put our wishes on a shrine.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread - $6,333,295! WE DID IT!
Post by: Bebpo on July 31, 2015, 07:59:11 PM
I was just joking though.  I really loved Shenmue games as a teen.  I think they may have been my first sandbox games and it was awesome exploring the world.  I also really liked the combat since Virtua Fighter was my jam and it was like a dumbed down VF.  Plus it had that asian flavor and I was a bit weaboo-ish.

But I didn't give this kickstarter a dollar because I don't trust nostalgia and don't believe in developers who are unproven in recent years regardless of what they did ages ago.


Yakuza is good/bad/good/bad cycle between games and could use being a bit more real sandbox, and Sleeping Dogs was awesome but fuck that MMO shit.

Just my $.02
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread - $6,333,295! WE DID IT!
Post by: Himu on July 31, 2015, 08:09:38 PM
Shoving a guy's face into a fan in Sleeping Dogs was more satisfying than anything that happened in either Shenmue game. Shit, ALL of the things that happened in both games.

I agree that it makes a lot of sense to say this knowing that you have not played Shenmue II. I also agree that pushing a man's head in a fan is much better than fighting 70 dudes in one long uninterrupted fight. I also agree that pushing a guys head into a fan is much better than being handcuffed to another guy Butch Cassidy and The Sundance Kid as you're chased by gangsters in a crime filled city literally made of shit in one Walled City Kowloon. I also agree that pushing a guys head in a fan is much better than being chased by a cheeseburger with a chainsaw.

I also agree that Shenmue has absolutely zero anything badass in it, because I only really played it for ten minutes, and couldn't be assed to actually learn to appreciate and play it because I have ADHD and every video game needs to be the same way, with the same style, with the same pacing and that Saints Row IV is a good game and not disappointing dog shit.

A gif of something not badass happening in Shenmue. I mean, come on Ryo, why aren't pushing a guys head in a fan?

(http://i.imgur.com/EDdVXm2.jpg)

I also agree you should keep posting in this thread.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread - $6,333,295! WE DID IT!
Post by: Kara on July 31, 2015, 08:49:45 PM
Four wude stylee. :whew
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread - $6,333,295! WE DID IT!
Post by: Himu on August 01, 2015, 03:46:34 AM
Four wude stylee. :whew

Like water, my friend.

(http://i.imgur.com/VeGjaC4.gif)
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread - $6,333,295! WE DID IT!
Post by: Barry Egan on August 01, 2015, 04:11:02 AM
Himu annihilating the haters left and right itt.  :whoo
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread - $6,333,295! WE DID IT!
Post by: chronovore on August 05, 2015, 12:49:07 AM
But it's hilarious how she got her undies in a twist when I pointed out how it was lame to hate on Red Dead Redemption when she hadn't even played it. Sure, this is fair.  ::)
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread - $6,333,295! WE DID IT!
Post by: Himu on August 05, 2015, 01:01:27 AM
Eh? Did I really hate on RDR? I'm pretty sure the more accurate word was skeptical, and after GTAIV that seemed pretty smart to do. But even if you're right, when it comes to brass tacks, I gave RDR a fair shot and I will admit I'm wrong. I certainly wouldn't be hating on an RDR sequel thread, after a 14 year absence. However, I don't think my skepticism was at all misplaced. I'm pretty sure the conversation was more like "I'm skeptical RDR is good. GTAIV kinda sucked :yeshrug" "It's good" "I don't believe you" "IT'S FUCKING GOOD" "I DON'T WANNA BELIEVE YOU" "FINE THEN, BUT IT'S GOOD" "Woah, this is good you're right" "I TOLD YOU :ufup"

Hardly what you could consider hate, but prove me wrong. I've been wrong before and I will be wrong again.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread - $6,333,295! WE DID IT!
Post by: Kara on August 05, 2015, 01:08:36 AM
Judge yourself without conceit and do not show moves thoughtlessly.

(http://i.imgur.com/VeGjaC4.gif)
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread - $6,333,295! WE DID IT!
Post by: Himu on August 05, 2015, 01:19:07 AM
:lol you and this Wude stuff
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread - $6,333,295! WE DID IT!
Post by: chronovore on August 05, 2015, 01:27:08 AM
Eh? Did I really hate on RDR? I'm pretty sure the more accurate word was skeptical, and after GTAIV that seemed pretty smart to do. But even if you're right, when it comes to brass tacks, I gave RDR a fair shot and I will admit I'm wrong. I certainly wouldn't be hating on an RDR sequel thread, after a 14 year absence. However, I don't think my skepticism was at all misplaced. I'm pretty sure the conversation was more like "I'm skeptical RDR is good. GTAIV kinda sucked :yeshrug" "It's good" "I don't believe you" "IT'S FUCKING GOOD" "I DON'T WANNA BELIEVE YOU" "FINE THEN, BUT IT'S GOOD" "Woah, this is good you're right" "I TOLD YOU :ufup"

Hardly what you could consider hate, but prove me wrong. I've been wrong before and I will be wrong again.

One of these days I will read through the RDR thread and find it, but I recall that you were pretty annoyingly certain about how crappy Grand Theft Horse was going to be, and were loud about it all the way until you actually played it. I am glad that you eventually decided to play it, and enjoyed it.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread - $6,333,295! WE DID IT!
Post by: Himu on August 05, 2015, 01:32:14 AM
I already found it.

http://www.thebore.com/forum/index.php?topic=34900.0

It was not hate at all. It was a passing statement and you somehow thought it was a judgement on the game itself when it really wasn't. I'm pretty sure you are remembering things wrong. I liked the original Red Dead, had no problem with Grand Theft Horse, and I have always been an advocate for different settings in games. I think you are perhaps thinking of someone else.

I mean, my first post on RDR thread first page was:

Looks amazing.

:bow R* :bow2

You need to let this go, friend. I was never down on RDR as you think I was.

Be brave and stay calm to make the right decision.

(http://i.imgur.com/VeGjaC4.gif)
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread - $6,333,295! WE DID IT!
Post by: chronovore on August 05, 2015, 02:00:22 AM
Thanks for finding that!

I don't think you read the whole exchange; I understand that you didn't hate something that you hadn't even tried, but you were very fond of extrapolating from other people's impressions to make suppositions about what made the game compelling while steadfastly ignoring what several posters (including myself) were telling you about the game. I'm not sure why I found it so frustrating at that time, but perhaps after disagreements in this thread you have some empathy for my situation.

I'd also forgotten about Third, and what horrible taste he had in games.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread - $6,333,295! WE DID IT!
Post by: chronovore on August 05, 2015, 02:01:46 AM
Oh, man. That whole exchange was FIVE years ago.  :-\
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread - $6,333,295! WE DID IT!
Post by: Himu on August 05, 2015, 02:03:24 AM
You aren't allowed to mention that part but you did anyways :maf
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread - $6,333,295! WE DID IT!
Post by: Himu on August 05, 2015, 02:09:24 AM
I don't find frustration with the stuff in the thread at all, I'm used to it when comes to it and Shenmue. Being a Shenmue fan in itself is a battle with frustration. In any case, I still agree with my original assessment: that RDR is a tighter GTAIV in a western setting. I don't see how that's a slight on the game at all. In many ways it is GTAIV done right and expands upon many things that were originally in that game and does so in a more creative and memorable manner. You may disagree with that, but I have always felt that way about the game. That doesn't mean I dislike it at all - on the contrary in fact.

Regarding the empathy remark, that was only one thread for RDR and I bought the game a mere month later. The people in this thread have been trolling my Shenmue fanhood for years. Even then, it's a false equivalence.

But that's not too bad because it allows us to have some fuckery. It's just for fun, and I'm not overly frustrated.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread - $6,333,295! WE DID IT!
Post by: Kara on August 05, 2015, 02:32:55 AM
Regarding the empathy remark, that was only one thread for RDR and I bought the game a mere month later.

To act without hesitation, to do what is right.

(http://i.imgur.com/VeGjaC4.gif)
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread - $6,333,295! WE DID IT!
Post by: Himu on August 05, 2015, 02:36:09 AM
:dead
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread - $6,333,295! WE DID IT!
Post by: chronovore on August 05, 2015, 02:43:35 AM
I don't find frustration with the stuff in the thread at all, I'm used to it when comes to it and Shenmue. Being a Shenmue fan in itself is a battle with frustration. In any case, I still agree with my original assessment: that RDR is a tighter GTAIV in a western setting. I don't see how that's a slight on the game at all. In many ways it is GTAIV done right and expands upon many things that were originally in that game and does so in a more creative and memorable manner. You may disagree with that, but I have always felt that way about the game. That doesn't mean I dislike it at all - on the contrary in fact.

Regarding the empathy remark, that was only one thread for RDR and I bought the game a mere month later. The people in this thread have been trolling my Shenmue fanhood for years. Even then, it's a false equivalence.

But that's not too bad because it allows us to have some fuckery. It's just for fun, and I'm not overly frustrated.
Your statements are making me want to thread necro like no-one has thread necro'd in years.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread - $6,333,295! WE DID IT!
Post by: Himu on August 14, 2015, 01:53:41 PM
Update:

Gamespot's The Point has a video interview with Playstation's Gio Corsi.

http://www.gamespot.com/videos/the-point-how-did-shenmue-3-raise-63-million/2300-6426535/

The description reads as: Danny talks to PlayStation's Gio Corsi about how they helped bring Shenmue 3 to E3, and explores the psychology behind our desire to fund Kickstarter projects.


Also, we will have Shenmue news in September. Please look forward to it!

(https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xtf1/v/t1.0-9/11863282_1708176602751749_2832800018208396778_n.png?oh=888c90f948c4559c664964b9bfca893f&oe=563F62C5)
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread - $6,333,295! WE DID IT!
Post by: Himu on August 16, 2015, 01:08:36 AM
Fantastic and informative interview on the creation of Shenmue in 2000.

http://shmuplations.com/shenmue/

I really hope YSnet gets Mitsuyoshi on board.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84jVIRENnVA

:preach
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread - $6,333,295! WE DID IT!
Post by: Himu on September 02, 2015, 02:14:54 PM
Amazing Shenmue III interview. Wow. :preach

http://otakumode.com/news/55c62e97887d92a516b043ae/Interview-with-Yu-Suzuki-Producer-of-the-%E2%80%9CShenmue%E2%80%9D-Series?page=1

Quote
[...] for Shenmue 3 they were cheering as if a deceased child just came back to life (laughs). It was like witnessing a supernatural phenomenon, something resurrecting from the deepest depths of the underworld.

Quote
Among the characteristics of Shenmue, there are the keywords of “nostalgy” and “the presence of everydays.” I’m not planning on doing anything grandiose, I just want to draw out the interestingness that lies concealed behind the curtains of everydays.

Quote
I want to include developments with a sense of distance and atmosphere in mind, such as when a character couldn’t say what he/she wanted to due to influences of the moment and workings of the heart.

Quote
Since the surrounding world is very important in Shenmue, I put great emphasis on the differences in perception, and these differences will also be reflected in the characters’ behavior. For example, when you are playing with Ryo, you will only have options from Ryo’s world, so even if Ryo can’t do something, you might progress further with Ren or stay even more ahead if you are Shenhua.



:bow

Suzuki-san
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread - $6,333,295! WE DID IT!
Post by: Kara on September 02, 2015, 03:48:10 PM
They said the remaining episodes planned are being condensed into the third game. Ryo is not going back in that cave and the haters are going to lose. :rejoice
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread - $6,333,295! WE DID IT!
Post by: Himu on September 02, 2015, 04:31:06 PM
That wasn't  said at all.  Shenmue III is not the final game.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread - $6,333,295! WE DID IT!
Post by: Positive Touch on September 02, 2015, 04:41:22 PM
Shenmue IV: Lost at Sea
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread - $6,333,295! WE DID IT!
Post by: Joe Molotov on September 02, 2015, 04:58:58 PM
Shenmue IV: Live FREE or Die Hard
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread - $6,333,295! WE DID IT!
Post by: Tasty on September 02, 2015, 05:19:16 PM
Shenmue V: The Search for More Money

Back us on Kickstarter™: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/ysnet/shenmue-5-the-search-for-more-money
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread - $6,333,295! WE DID IT!
Post by: Kara on September 02, 2015, 09:52:18 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/4EzvswZ.jpg)
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread - $6,333,295! WE DID IT!
Post by: Himu on September 02, 2015, 10:12:47 PM
All that means is that Suzuki isn't making Shenmue III only chapter 5/6. It doesn't mean this will be the last game. Suzuki has been adamant that it's not. You are taking his statement far too literal and reading wayyyyy too much into it.

Also, their translation is amateur and shit.

A more accurate translation would be, from my own understanding of Japanese:

With Shenmue III it wouldn't be reasonable to do just one chapter's worth per region so I have restructured the story to fit the budget.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread - $6,333,295! WE DID IT!
Post by: Kara on September 02, 2015, 10:57:24 PM
:badass
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread - $6,333,295! WE DID IT!
Post by: Himu on September 02, 2015, 11:54:45 PM
Sorry. I've already dealt with this elsewhere and people taking a simple badly translated text as literal despite Yu saying a billion times that III isn't the last game.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread - $6,333,295! WE DID IT!
Post by: VomKriege on September 18, 2015, 08:15:16 AM
Paypal donations are open, if anyone care.
I gave the game a lot of shit (and expect to do it again, to be fair) but Ys had the good sense of only opening that campaign for a set period of time (a little over 100 days).

PC version is in a bit of shuffle right now, it's offered as a reward and the FAQ says they are "discussing it with other concerned parties".
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread - $6,333,295! WE DID IT!
Post by: VomKriege on October 05, 2015, 03:14:44 PM
Since our resident Shenmue fan went on a weird tangent with a joke account, it's up to the h8ers to keep you informed  >:(

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2015-10-04-i-could-do-with-a-bit-more-money-yu-suzuki-on-the-return-of-shenmue

We can all thanks Ryan Payton, it seems.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread - $6,333,295! WE DID IT!
Post by: Mods Help on December 25, 2015, 02:42:00 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_NppngNCC8

Best Xmas gift ever
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread - $6,333,295! WE DID IT!
Post by: mormapope on January 05, 2016, 04:15:41 PM
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/ysnet/shenmue-3/posts/1457889

Quote
The results are in for the poll posted in the final update of last year asking whether or not Kickstarter Exclusive Rewards should be made available for the Slacker Backer PayPal campaign.

The polling period lasted from December 24, 2015 to January 1, 2016. All Kickstarter Backers who pledged for a reward of $5 or more were eligible to vote. Of the 68,533 eligible Kickstarter Backers, there were 15,110 respondents.

The poll results are posted below. 4,670 of the respondents answered, “Yes, please make the Kickstarter Exclusive Rewards available on PayPal.” 4,009 respondents answered, “No, Kickstarter Exclusive Rewards are for Kickstarter only.” And 6,432 answered, “Either is fine with me.”

Considering the strong response from those of you who felt that the Exclusive Rewards should remain exclusive for the Kickstarter, those Exclusive Rewards will not be made available on the PayPal page as originally promised.

Seems like a weird decision.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread - $6,333,295! WE DID IT!
Post by: mormapope on January 05, 2016, 04:24:32 PM
So paypal backers still get the bonuses offered by that route, while the kickstarter bonuses will not be carried over and remain exclusive to kickstarter funders.

Why would someone vote no in that poll though?  :lol
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread - $6,333,295! WE DID IT!
Post by: Mods Help on January 05, 2016, 04:41:39 PM
So paypal backers still get the bonuses offered by that route, while the kickstarter bonuses will not be carried over and remain exclusive to kickstarter funders.

Why would someone vote no in that poll though?  :lol

people want to feel special. "i've got exclusive kickstarter stuff" some shenmue geeks value collectible shit only THEY can have. that's what happens when you haven't had a new entry since 2001 and the only thing new shenmue to buy is merch.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread - $6,333,295! WE DID IT!
Post by: Tasty on January 05, 2016, 04:48:49 PM
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/ysnet/shenmue-3/posts/1457889

Quote
The results are in for the poll posted in the final update of last year asking whether or not Kickstarter Exclusive Rewards should be made available for the Slacker Backer PayPal campaign.

The polling period lasted from December 24, 2015 to January 1, 2016. All Kickstarter Backers who pledged for a reward of $5 or more were eligible to vote. Of the 68,533 eligible Kickstarter Backers, there were 15,110 respondents.

The poll results are posted below. 4,670 of the respondents answered, “Yes, please make the Kickstarter Exclusive Rewards available on PayPal.” 4,009 respondents answered, “No, Kickstarter Exclusive Rewards are for Kickstarter only.” And 6,432 answered, “Either is fine with me.”

Considering the strong response from those of you who felt that the Exclusive Rewards should remain exclusive for the Kickstarter, those Exclusive Rewards will not be made available on the PayPal page as originally promised.

Seems like a weird decision.

But the "Yes"/"I don't care" people were the majority (73%)...
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread - $6,333,295! WE DID IT!
Post by: pilonv1 on January 06, 2016, 04:08:13 AM
Glad I didn't back this
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread - $6,333,295! WE DID IT!
Post by: Mods Help on January 06, 2016, 03:57:39 PM
Honestly it's not a big deal. Paypal people get the same stuff except like 3 items. Oh no, you don't get phone cards. Okay.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread - $6,333,295! WE DID IT!
Post by: Kara on January 06, 2016, 04:02:10 PM
Glad I didn't back this

Ur lucky I'm bound by the 4 Wude, bub
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread - $6,333,295! WE DID IT!
Post by: Mods Help on January 06, 2016, 04:17:14 PM
Glad I didn't back this

Typical fake shenmue fan whodat

Buying this when I get home :hyper

(http://i.imgur.com/AOMpVkm.gif)

Can buy dlc but can't support Ryo Hazuki when it really counts.

For shame. I put 200 into this.  :P
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread - $6,333,295! WE DID IT!
Post by: Tasty on January 06, 2016, 04:52:54 PM
Is that McLovin?
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread - $6,333,295! WE DID IT!
Post by: Mods Help on January 06, 2016, 05:16:05 PM
no it's the guy from star trek enterprise
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread - $6,333,295! WE DID IT!
Post by: pilonv1 on January 07, 2016, 01:42:37 AM
Glad I didn't back this

Typical fake shenmue fan whodat

Buying this when I get home :hyper

(http://i.imgur.com/AOMpVkm.gif)

Can buy dlc but can't support Ryo Hazuki when it really counts.

For shame. I put 200 into this.  :P

Triumph made me see the light :rejoice

Is that McLovin?

Sometimes Andrex can't help show his age
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread - $6,333,295! WE DID IT!
Post by: Mods Help on January 20, 2016, 03:57:56 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/nBrc88v.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/ZQ8mUGl.jpg)

Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread - $6,333,295! WE DID IT!
Post by: chronovore on January 20, 2016, 04:21:31 PM
Dreamcast really has aged well.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread - $6,333,295! WE DID IT!
Post by: Tasty on January 20, 2016, 05:14:54 PM
Wait Dolphin can do Dreamcast? :doge
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread - $6,333,295! WE DID IT!
Post by: qq more on January 20, 2016, 05:33:22 PM
Looks really rough at the moment, but I'm sure it's just because it's a prototype. First snapshot looks mostly alright though. The rainy (?) and grainy effects is kinda bleh though.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread - $6,333,295! WE DID IT!
Post by: Mods Help on January 20, 2016, 07:29:06 PM
It's a prototype.

Another one.

(http://s11.postimg.org/6ziojbc7n/image.jpg)
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread - $6,333,295! WE DID IT!
Post by: Mods Help on February 27, 2016, 09:22:27 AM
Life is amazing. :tocry

(http://i.imgur.com/CTgHpQX.jpg)

Wake up, and see the SHENMUE TREE in hd

(http://i.imgur.com/OsglEnG.jpg)

Shenhua's house! OMG

(http://shenmue.link/blog/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/magic1.jpg)

:tocry

I have no words :tocry I am literally sitting here crying in joy seeing this. :brazilcry

(https://i.imgur.com/qAbSXHg.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/zXfHTVi.png)

Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread - $6,333,295! WE DID IT!
Post by: Mods Help on February 27, 2016, 09:29:45 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_f2de7xktA

:noah

Listening to this music as I look at that screen :lawd

Imagine those graphics with this music.

https://youtu.be/vklgmdrxVwk

:bow Shenmue III :bow2
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread - $6,333,295! WE DID IT!
Post by: Sho Nuff on February 27, 2016, 12:46:43 PM
Don't fuck up don't fuck up don't fuck up don't fuck up don't fuck up don't fuck up don't fuck up don't fuck up don't fuck up don't fuck up
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread - $6,333,295! WE DID IT!
Post by: Mods Help on February 27, 2016, 01:13:58 PM
https://twitter.com/japanfm/status/703622762108231680

OMFG

Turn on the sound when watching.

The emotions, they stir. :tocry :brazilcry
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread - $6,333,295! WE DID IT!
Post by: Mods Help on February 27, 2016, 01:16:51 PM
https://youtu.be/IN5kwWj9fpM

:brazilcry

For those who would like to listen to the entire godly :bow worthy song

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=np90UxzpEx0
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread - $6,333,295! WE DID IT!
Post by: Mods Help on February 27, 2016, 04:50:56 PM
Even more.

https://youtu.be/mY3goVYBrOA

rabbit is for dinner, there's a painting of luoyang and the cursed mountains in HD, a fire at the fire pit, and a sunset marking the night before Ryo and Shenhua enter a cave to search for her father for 15 years. Just like how we left it.  :preach
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread - $6,333,295! WE DID IT!
Post by: seagrams hotsauce on February 27, 2016, 06:11:14 PM
This is enough to reduce you to tears...?
http://i.imgur.com/OsglEnG.jpg
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread - $6,333,295! WE DID IT!
Post by: Mods Help on February 27, 2016, 06:15:23 PM
Nope, this is.

http://i.imgur.com/CTgHpQX.jpg

So happy.  :)

Plus, the video makes it even better.

I'm not sure if you played Shenmue II, but Shenhua's house is, for all intents and purposes, the end of the game. Most items in the house have a story. You examine them and Shenhua tells you about them. You talk to her over that fire. You examine different art her father owns on his mantle, the painting of the cursed mountains, the ancient luoyang painting, even the kitchen has a story in a way. Then there's the Shenmue tree, which was revealed in a pretty surprising manner, and the mystery behind it. So to see Shenhua's house, in such vivid recreation, just the way we left it, is highly emotional. Given we know the story of each and every one of those items in that house and that tree and those cows that Shenhua doesn't eat because they need them for their farm land. Yeah, I'm gonna cry because it shows Shenmue lives on, and I still can't fucking believe I'm going to see each and every one of those things again and get continuation.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread - $6,333,295! WE DID IT!
Post by: Trent Dole on February 27, 2016, 10:48:59 PM
MH gets to see their beloved series actually continue in its proper form while mine is now a fucking pachinko game but there's a proper successor to it on the way at least. I never got into the Shen but I understand the enthusiasm.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread - $6,333,295! WE DID IT!
Post by: Mods Help on February 27, 2016, 11:10:36 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETWhauvTOWY

It's pretty obvious from the aesthetic that this is Kid Nocon's handiwork.

Living the dream. Gogo Kid.
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread - $6,333,295! WE DID IT!
Post by: Mods Help on March 02, 2016, 12:30:50 PM
omg

https://youtu.be/U9h5vlYdzbA

(http://i.imgur.com/bRxej6P.gif)

It's now March so I should start a new game of my favorite game ever Shenmue II!!!!
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread - $6,333,295! WE DID IT!
Post by: Mods Help on March 02, 2016, 05:32:01 PM
Put it in full screen and you really get a glimpse of Bailu village here. Wow, it's Shenmue III! Bailu looks bigger than I expected.  :o I was expecting Yamanose combined with Sakuragaoka in terms of scale. Choubu is going to be nuts.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jaEQs0Y6Smo

Hi res screens!

(https://i.imgur.com/Vyarbv6.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/sz41zOw.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/4XzNVhS.jpg)
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread - $6,333,295! WE DID IT!
Post by: Mods Help on March 05, 2016, 03:40:44 PM
The entire presentation at Monaco in English subtitles!

https://youtu.be/HjeCsdcSIUs
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread - $6,333,295! WE DID IT!
Post by: Himu on November 29, 2016, 10:32:52 AM
Shenmue III re-reveal at psx plus XV in the same week. I cannot contain my joy. hype.

:tocry
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread - $6,333,295! WE DID IT!
Post by: Himu on December 03, 2016, 02:40:14 AM
TODAY
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread - PC VERSIONS FOR PRE ORDER 12/15!
Post by: Himu on December 13, 2016, 09:30:47 AM
PC version ready for pre order 12/15! Shenmue III INFO ONSLAUGHT COMING! Game has entered final phase of development!

http://gematsu.com/2016/12/shenmue-iii-pc-pre-orders-begin-december-15
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread - PC VERSIONS FOR PRE ORDER 12/15!
Post by: Positive Touch on December 13, 2016, 09:51:32 AM
final stage of development wtf where's the media
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread - PC VERSIONS FOR PRE ORDER 12/15!
Post by: Himu on December 13, 2016, 09:55:03 AM
This month and early next year
Title: Re: The Shenmue III thread - PC VERSIONS FOR PRE ORDER 12/15!
Post by: nachobro on December 13, 2016, 10:06:08 AM
i hope i can change my kickstarter to a pc version. i honestly don't remember what i picked when i donated.
Title: Re: The Shenmue III thread - PC VERSIONS FOR PRE ORDER 12/15!
Post by: Great Rumbler on December 13, 2016, 10:12:21 AM
i hope i can change my kickstarter to a pc version. i honestly don't remember what i picked when i donated.

Kickstarters usually send out a survey sometime post release where you can set what platform you want. Or you can message them yourself and see if you can change it if you've already picked a platform.
Title: Re: The Shenmue III thread - PC VERSIONS FOR PRE ORDER 12/15!
Post by: nachobro on December 13, 2016, 10:20:22 AM
Yep, just saw a notice about a survey before anything is shipped in my original Kickstarter email. Thanks though! :D
Title: Re: The Shenmue III thread - PC VERSIONS FOR PRE ORDER 12/15!
Post by: Tasty on December 13, 2016, 11:17:26 AM
Can't wait for the Shenmue 4 Kickstarter to launch when this gets released. :doge
Title: Re: The Shenmue III thread - PC VERSIONS FOR PRE ORDER 12/15!
Post by: Madrun Badrun on December 13, 2016, 11:28:01 AM
I cant wait for reviews to say its a dreamcast quality game. 
Title: Re: The Shenmue III thread - PC VERSIONS FOR PRE ORDER 12/15!
Post by: Himu on December 13, 2016, 11:30:30 PM
I cant wait for reviews to say its a dreamcast quality game.

what a compliment :rejoice
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread - PC VERSIONS FOR PRE ORDER 12/15!
Post by: VomKriege on December 14, 2016, 05:21:40 AM
final stage of development wtf where's the media

Final stage to early stage of launching full production.
Good for Yu if this thing is moving forward within a reasonable frame.
Title: Re: The Shenmue III thread - PC VERSIONS FOR PRE ORDER 12/15!
Post by: Himu on December 15, 2016, 02:27:10 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/CIVk8aB.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/WB8qQOz.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/qgE9DSH.jpg)

HEAVY BREATHING HABCBDIAMCJWKFB

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/ysnet/shenmue-3/posts/1764527
Title: Re: The Shenmue III thread - NEW SCREENSHOTS I CANT BELIEVE THIS IS HAPPENING!!!!!
Post by: Himu on December 15, 2016, 02:32:01 AM
Shenmue II, the greatest game ever made, is getting a sequel and I cannot fucking believe this shit

Someone fucking hold me :tocry

It's so beautiful :tocry
Title: Re: The Shenmue III thread - NEW SCREENSHOTS I CANT BELIEVE THIS IS HAPPENING!!!!!
Post by: Himu on December 15, 2016, 02:39:51 AM
I want to make a shoutout to all Shenmue haters.

You can eat shit.

You were proven wrong in 2015 when it made record numbers.

You will be proven wrong next year when the GAWD is revived and Chi You shits down your NECK.

As the dragon rises from the Earth, you will say,"holy shit queen of ice was right all along! I was wrong! I didn't believe and for this I shall pay tribute, for I was blind but now I see!"

DON'T STOP BELIEVING

http://youtu.be/1k8craCGpgs

:rejoice

Dreams really do come true :tocry
Title: Re: The Shenmue III thread - NEW SCREENSHOTS I CANT BELIEVE THIS IS HAPPENING!!!!!
Post by: Himu on December 15, 2016, 09:38:24 AM
HI RES

(http://shenmue.link/blog/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/S3_20161215_IMAGE-01.jpg)

(http://shenmue.link/blog/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/S3_20161215_IMAGE-02.jpg)

(http://shenmue.link/blog/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/A-familiar-piece-of-heavy-machinery.jpg)
Title: Re: The Shenmue III thread - NEW SCREENSHOTS I CANT BELIEVE THIS IS HAPPENING!!!!!
Post by: Positive Touch on December 15, 2016, 10:12:59 AM
omg hype rising
Title: Re: The Shenmue III thread - NEW SCREENSHOTS I CANT BELIEVE THIS IS HAPPENING!!!!!
Post by: Huff on December 15, 2016, 10:32:07 AM
You know what this games not going to look like?

Those screen shots
Title: Re: The Shenmue III thread - NEW SCREENSHOTS I CANT BELIEVE THIS IS HAPPENING!!!!!
Post by: demi on December 15, 2016, 10:34:50 AM
http://i.imgur.com/WB8qQOz.jpg

Nice photoshop I guess
Title: Re: The Shenmue III thread - NEW SCREENSHOTS I CANT BELIEVE THIS IS HAPPENING!!!!!
Post by: Himu on December 15, 2016, 11:00:27 AM
It's definitely a photoshop. They aren't satisfied with Ryo's face and decided to photoshop. Work in progress. It's a Kickstarter.
Title: Re: The Shenmue III thread - NEW SCREENSHOTS I CANT BELIEVE THIS IS HAPPENING!!!!!
Post by: VomKriege on April 04, 2017, 07:29:47 PM
So... hum. Not to be an ass, but what's the latest info on this ?
Release is supposed to be December 2017 ? Seems pretty optimist but maybe the development is farther along than I realize.
Title: Re: The Shenmue III thread - NEW SCREENSHOTS I CANT BELIEVE THIS IS HAPPENING!!!!!
Post by: Great Rumbler on April 04, 2017, 07:44:51 PM
Unless a Kickstarter game is close to being finished when the campaign goes up, assume that they will miss their original release date.
Title: Re: The Shenmue III thread - NEW SCREENSHOTS I CANT BELIEVE THIS IS HAPPENING!!!!!
Post by: Kara on April 04, 2017, 09:08:50 PM
They sent me an email recently, so they're at least going through the motions still.
Title: Re: The Shenmue III thread - NEW SCREENSHOTS I CANT BELIEVE THIS IS HAPPENING!!!!!
Post by: Joe Molotov on April 04, 2017, 09:23:07 PM
They sent me an email recently, so they're at least going through the motions still.

The email was coming from inside the cave!
Title: Re: The Shenmue III thread - NEW SCREENSHOTS I CANT BELIEVE THIS IS HAPPENING!!!!!
Post by: Kara on April 04, 2017, 09:53:11 PM
Keyser Söze is Lunar: Silver Star Story Complete. :o
Title: Re: The Shenmue III thread - NEW SCREENSHOTS I CANT BELIEVE THIS IS HAPPENING!!!!!
Post by: Trent Dole on June 01, 2017, 05:25:10 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8N50IGhCWk
Title: Re: The Shenmue III thread - NEW SCREENSHOTS I CANT BELIEVE THIS IS HAPPENING!!!!!
Post by: Joe Molotov on June 08, 2017, 09:19:06 AM
http://kotaku.com/shenmue-iii-delayed-to-second-half-of-2018-1795918468

PLS UNDERSTAND
Title: Re: The Shenmue III thread - NEW SCREENSHOTS I CANT BELIEVE THIS IS HAPPENING!!!!!
Post by: Valkyrie on June 08, 2017, 11:03:09 AM
If that won't bring Himu back to post about, nothing will.
Title: Re: The Shenmue III thread - NEW SCREENSHOTS I CANT BELIEVE THIS IS HAPPENING!!!!!
Post by: Tasty on June 08, 2017, 11:37:53 AM
Even last year there it was pretty clear they wouldn't make 2017 so I'm not surprised. I'm skeptical they'll make 2018 considering we still don't have any gameplay. Even MN9 had gameplay footage at this point, and that was a barebones throwback platformer.
Title: Re: The Shenmue III thread - NEW SCREENSHOTS I CANT BELIEVE THIS IS HAPPENING!!!!!
Post by: Mupepe on August 03, 2017, 03:47:34 PM
Just checking if this is dead yet. 
Title: Re: The Shenmue III thread - NEW SCREENSHOTS I CANT BELIEVE THIS IS HAPPENING!!!!!
Post by: Himu on August 03, 2017, 03:48:08 PM
Update at Gamescom!
Title: Re: The Shenmue III thread - NEW SCREENSHOTS I CANT BELIEVE THIS IS HAPPENING!!!!!
Post by: VomKriege on August 03, 2017, 04:11:51 PM
Update at Gamescom!

Star Citizen vibes  :beavis
Title: Re: The Shenmue III thread - NEW SCREENSHOTS I CANT BELIEVE THIS IS HAPPENING!!!!!
Post by: Himu on August 03, 2017, 04:44:14 PM
Update at Gamescom!

Star Citizen vibes  :beavis

I wouldn't say so. The developers have been very transparent about the games progress and even announced that the game won't be released this year. Yu gave a candid announcement saying that the game will come out 2018 and to please have patience.

Last month in the monthly update they announced that the game will be at Gamescom for the media.
Title: Re: The Shenmue III thread - NEW SCREENSHOTS I CANT BELIEVE THIS IS HAPPENING!!!!!
Post by: VomKriege on August 04, 2017, 04:53:06 AM
That was mostly in jest to be fair (The Gamescom connection). Still skeptical about Shenmue but Star Citizen is ten times the trainwreck.
Title: Re: The Shenmue III thread - NEW SCREENSHOTS I CANT BELIEVE THIS IS HAPPENING!!!!!
Post by: Great Rumbler on August 04, 2017, 03:11:32 PM
Shenmue 3 is at least being helmed by a guy who shipped a game this decade.
Title: Re: The Shenmue III thread - NEW SCREENSHOTS I CANT BELIEVE THIS IS HAPPENING!!!!!
Post by: thisismyusername on August 04, 2017, 04:21:56 PM
All this talk about 3 and I'm just sitting here waiting for Sega to release 1 and 2 HD. :doge
Title: Re: The Shenmue III thread - NEW SCREENSHOTS I CANT BELIEVE THIS IS HAPPENING!!!!!
Post by: benjipwns on August 04, 2017, 05:28:43 PM
Shenmue 3 is at least being helmed by a guy who shipped a game this decade.
Even better...Shenmue III is being helmed by a guy who has shipped a game this millennium. Roberts bailed out of Digital Anvil before they finished Freelancer and were bought by Microsoft. Starlancer shipped in 2000 but he was too involved in filming Wing Commander to do more than get a producer credit on that. And Wing Commander IV was 1996.

So Yu did both chapters of Shenmue (including an altered port to the Xbox), that Ferrari racer and Virtua Fighter 4 in the time it took Roberts to make the Wing Commander movie and abandon Freelancer. Yu got a producer credit on a bunch of other stuff too like OutRun 2. He also was part of the group overseeing turning the Dreamcast into the NAOMI hardware. :lol
Title: Re: The Shenmue III thread - NEW SCREENSHOTS I CANT BELIEVE THIS IS HAPPENING!!!!!
Post by: benjipwns on August 04, 2017, 05:36:20 PM
Wow, Chris Roberts has one of the co-producer credits on Lord of War and Lucky Number Slevin.

He also was an executive producer for that first Punisher movie with Thomas Jane. (He just wants his kids back.)

And Kevin Costner sued him for breach of contract over a movie that was never made. (http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/life/people/2005-11-30-costner-lawsuit_x.htm)
Title: Re: The Shenmue III thread - NEW SCREENSHOTS I CANT BELIEVE THIS IS HAPPENING!!!!!
Post by: Great Rumbler on August 17, 2017, 03:27:58 PM
Deep Silver will be publishing Shenmue 3:

http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2017-08-17-deep-silver-will-publish-shenmue-iii
Title: Re: The Shenmue III thread - NEW SCREENSHOTS I CANT BELIEVE THIS IS HAPPENING!!!!!
Post by: Himu on August 17, 2017, 06:29:40 PM
Couple of weeks till Gamescom!
Title: Re: The Shenmue III thread - NEW SCREENSHOTS I CANT BELIEVE THIS IS HAPPENING!!!!!
Post by: VomKriege on August 18, 2017, 04:55:54 AM
Sounds like it's shaping up like a real game.
Title: Re: The Shenmue III thread - NEW SCREENSHOTS I CANT BELIEVE THIS IS HAPPENING!!!!!
Post by: Himu on August 21, 2017, 07:03:21 PM
https://youtu.be/UweI4Ra2QbM

Title: Re: The Shenmue III thread - NEW SCREENSHOTS I CANT BELIEVE THIS IS HAPPENING!!!!!
Post by: Himu on August 21, 2017, 07:09:42 PM
Models and animation look bad but it's still ways off. Still though, that is not Shenhua. I don't know who that imposter is but it isn't her!

The trailer still got me emotional as fuck though. Shenmue!!!
Title: Re: The Shenmue III thread - TEASER TRAILER 8/21 I CANT BELIEVE THIS IS HAPPENING
Post by: Sho Nuff on August 21, 2017, 07:21:27 PM
What is wrong with their faces

Everything else looks ok though
Title: Re: The Shenmue III thread - TEASER TRAILER 8/21 I CANT BELIEVE THIS IS HAPPENING
Post by: Himu on August 21, 2017, 07:22:52 PM
They finally left the cave!! :lawd

Title: Re: The Shenmue III thread - TEASER TRAILER 8/21 I CANT BELIEVE THIS IS HAPPENING
Post by: Positive Touch on August 21, 2017, 07:37:16 PM
the difference between the cave graphics in the dc version and this look insane. shame about those faces tho my god
Title: Re: The Shenmue III thread - TEASER TRAILER 8/21 I CANT BELIEVE THIS IS HAPPENING
Post by: Purple Filth on August 21, 2017, 08:04:03 PM
 Those faces

:shaqc
Title: Re: The Shenmue III thread - NEW SCREENSHOTS I CANT BELIEVE THIS IS HAPPENING!!!!!
Post by: Tasty on August 21, 2017, 09:00:00 PM
Looks about like I expected (a Dreamcast game in a Dolphin-like up-res-ing emulator.) Excite?
Title: Re: The Shenmue III thread - TEASER TRAILER 8/21 I CANT BELIEVE THIS IS HAPPENING
Post by: Positive Touch on August 21, 2017, 09:14:44 PM
lol what Dreamcast games were you playing

(https://i.imgur.com/Tj0Km5A.jpg)
Title: Re: The Shenmue III thread - NEW SCREENSHOTS I CANT BELIEVE THIS IS HAPPENING!!!!!
Post by: Himu on August 21, 2017, 09:15:55 PM
Looks about like I expected (a Dreamcast game in a Dolphin-like up-res-ing emulator.) Excite?

:confused
Title: Re: The Shenmue III thread - TEASER TRAILER 8/21 I CANT BELIEVE THIS IS HAPPENING
Post by: tiesto on August 21, 2017, 09:37:31 PM
Environment art looks much better than I thought it would, very lovely. The mannequin like faces though... hopefully they'll work on that next.

Still, maybe now is a good time to -finally- get around to playing 2.
Title: Re: The Shenmue III thread - TEASER TRAILER 8/21 I CANT BELIEVE THIS IS HAPPENING
Post by: Himu on August 21, 2017, 09:45:49 PM
Being back Shenhua's dress! Her new design is shit!

Environment art looks much better than I thought it would, very lovely. The mannequin like faces though... hopefully they'll work on that next.

Still, maybe now is a good time to -finally- get around to playing 2.

Shenmue II is my favorite! Please play it on Dreamcast!
Title: Re: The Shenmue III thread - TEASER TRAILER 8/21 I CANT BELIEVE THIS IS HAPPENING
Post by: seagrams hotsauce on August 21, 2017, 10:51:14 PM
I really hope we get a HD rerelease of the first two games before this drops
Title: Re: The Shenmue III thread - TEASER TRAILER 8/21 I CANT BELIEVE THIS IS HAPPENING
Post by: chronovore on August 22, 2017, 12:48:31 AM
What is wrong with their faces

Everything else looks ok though

They look like those J-fetish zentai kigurumi people who wear full-head anime masks.

PS: Don't google this if you don't already know what it is. Value your sanity.
Title: Re: The Shenmue III thread - TEASER TRAILER 8/21 I CANT BELIEVE THIS IS HAPPENING
Post by: Mr Gilhaney on August 22, 2017, 07:26:01 AM
It might look bad. But remember actually playing it will be even worse quality, than those facial animations. It's the Shenmue way.
Title: Re: The Shenmue III thread - TEASER TRAILER 8/21 I CANT BELIEVE THIS IS HAPPENING
Post by: Steve Contra on August 22, 2017, 04:27:24 PM
Wow, they don't have shit do they? Flying a camera around the environment and a couple animation tests for a "trailer".
Title: Re: The Shenmue III thread - TEASER TRAILER 8/21 I CANT BELIEVE THIS IS HAPPENING
Post by: Rufus on August 22, 2017, 04:37:05 PM
Starting where Shenmue 2 left off, underfunded and out of time.
Title: Re: The Shenmue III thread - TEASER TRAILER 8/21 I CANT BELIEVE THIS IS HAPPENING
Post by: Himu on August 22, 2017, 04:50:21 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/g5yUqjb.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/ufpkE9s.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/AbrZoIT.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/6aBGfXn.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/QcbflbL.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/WalDXEv.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/YLvset1.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/LMB9IsH.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/OJWDQyo.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/aB0cIOJ.jpg)
Title: Re: The Shenmue III thread - TEASER TRAILER 8/21 I CANT BELIEVE THIS IS HAPPENING
Post by: Raist on August 22, 2017, 05:12:17 PM
Those faces wtf.

spoiler (click to show/hide)
(http://cdn.funkidslive.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/Thunderbirds_1280.jpg)
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Title: Re: The Shenmue III thread - TEASER TRAILER 8/21 I CANT BELIEVE THIS IS HAPPENING
Post by: Himu on August 22, 2017, 05:36:52 PM
The model for Shenhua is seriously giving me migraines. That is not my girl. :( Really glad it's a placeholder.
Title: Re: The Shenmue III thread - TEASER TRAILER 8/21 I CANT BELIEVE THIS IS HAPPENING
Post by: CatsCatsCats on August 22, 2017, 06:00:19 PM
Trailer is bad
Title: Re: The Shenmue III thread - TEASER TRAILER 8/21 I CANT BELIEVE THIS IS HAPPENING
Post by: Himu on August 22, 2017, 06:23:39 PM
:stahp

(http://i.imgur.com/01cdkyr.jpg)

It sin't just the face but the entire outfit and design. Why a French beret? Why the bright yellow? Shenhua is a huntress. She would scare away her game. It doesn't fit the forest. It doesn't fit someone who lived their live surrounded by nature. It doesn't feel worn.

It's terrible.

The most confusing thing? It's a downgrade from her previous model in III. What the fuck.

In-game from II:

(http://i.imgur.com/uu1ymyy.jpg)

Promotional material:

(http://i.imgur.com/BrOrFgL.jpg)

III reveal:

(http://i.imgur.com/4jLAYjj.jpg)

Comparison:

(http://i.imgur.com/dp7b7On.jpg)

:stahp

Why the regression when the older model was clearly better?

Either way, it's clear to me that it's a placeholder but WHY.
Title: Re: The Shenmue III thread - TEASER TRAILER 8/21 I CANT BELIEVE THIS IS HAPPENING
Post by: Himu on August 22, 2017, 06:30:52 PM
The detail in the environments and the FUCKING PHOENIX MIRROR OMG DID YOU SEE IT really got me hyped. That shows they're still applying the classic Shenmue attention to detail. The models will probably be the last to be updated fully. Can't wait! :D

(http://i.imgur.com/uxqZNPk.png)

I also love that we get to see the martial arts kung fu adventure in this trailer!

(https://media.giphy.com/media/3owvKgeLlPXWv67W7u/giphy.gif)

:hyper

(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/280458008809701388/349343242535567380/shen3cave.png)
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/280458008809701388/349343255583916055/shen2cave.png)

Hnnnnnnnnnnnnnggggg!
Title: Re: The Shenmue III thread - TEASER TRAILER 8/21 I CANT BELIEVE THIS IS HAPPENING
Post by: Sho Nuff on August 22, 2017, 08:26:22 PM
DON'T
SHOW
PLACEHOLDER
ASSETS
Title: Re: The Shenmue III thread - TEASER TRAILER 8/21 I CANT BELIEVE THIS IS HAPPENING
Post by: Himu on August 22, 2017, 10:33:53 PM
The title screen :hyper

(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-aV-e8mCl0rw/WZvkuANeZSI/AAAAAAAAC5U/NPUc-2yvZMUPkEm3jxarl0H4U2MV3QIOwCLcBGAs/s1600/gamewatch-image.jpg)
Title: Re: The Shenmue III thread - TEASER TRAILER 8/21 I CANT BELIEVE THIS IS HAPPENING
Post by: Himu on August 23, 2017, 12:39:12 AM
Game Watch interview.

Game Watch Japan has published a very interesting interview with Suzuki-san, the interview took place during Gamescom and includes some really insightful and interesting information about Shenmue III, here's some of it:

-The released Shenmue III teaser footage is real-time in-game graphics.
**-All character models are temporary and subject to change.
-Facial animations were initially implemented but have been removed about a month ago.**
-The teaser was especially made for Gamescom 2017, no further plans to show more of the game at this year's Gamescom or Tokyo Game Show. However, a full-scale promotion will take place next year.
-Deep Silver will publish the game internationally, and they'll provide budget and promotional support. A publisher for Japan is to be decided.
-Suzuki-san would like to continue the series in Shenmue IV if possible.
-Suzuki-san is not interested in forcing the Shenmue story to complete in Shenmue III.
-Shenmue III will take around 30 hours of gameplay to complete.
**-The fighting engine in Shenmue III is being built from scratch, and unlike Shenmue II it won't use the Virtua engine.**
-A system that allows phone calls with characters from Shenmue and Shenmue II is planned for Shenmue III.
-Suzuki-san would like to bring as many voice actors from the previous games as possible, but some are retired now, he will audition a new voice actress for Shenhua.
-OST from Shenmue and Shenmue II will probably be reused in Shenmue III.
**-The new partnership with Deep Silver is strong and it's aimed to improve the Shenmue III experience beyond what was initially planned on the Kickstarter.**
Title: Re: The Shenmue III thread - TEASER TRAILER 8/21 I CANT BELIEVE THIS IS HAPPENING
Post by: Tasty on August 23, 2017, 12:51:36 AM
Quote
-Suzuki-san would like to continue the series in Shenmue IV if possible.
-Suzuki-san is not interested in forcing the Shenmue story to complete in Shenmue III.

(https://media.giphy.com/media/xTCAOp83NoE8/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: The Shenmue III thread - TEASER TRAILER 8/21 I CANT BELIEVE THIS IS HAPPENING
Post by: Himu on August 23, 2017, 12:58:12 AM
Old news. And if it's like GoT final two seasons I'm glad he's not rushing. Fuck that. Shenmue deserves greatness and not a hacked rush job.
Title: Re: The Shenmue III thread - TEASER TRAILER 8/21 I CANT BELIEVE THIS IS HAPPENING
Post by: Himu on August 23, 2017, 02:32:39 AM
Positive omg.

Famitsu has an interview with Yu and III will start from the last day of II!

https://www.famitsu.com/news/201708/23140186.html

We'll get to see the cave and everything! It'll start from Shenhua's house!
Title: Re: The Shenmue III thread - TEASER TRAILER 8/21 I CANT BELIEVE THIS IS HAPPENING
Post by: Positive Touch on August 23, 2017, 07:24:42 AM
yesssss i hope it'll have some more conversation-heavy bits like the end of 2 did. exploring shenhua's town will be :bow :bow2
Title: Re: The Shenmue III thread - TEASER TRAILER 8/21 I CANT BELIEVE THIS IS HAPPENING
Post by: Himu on August 23, 2017, 09:13:41 AM
It will. It'll have the dialogue system from the Guilin chapter. Apparently the story changes depending on what you say. Which is also similar to II. Like if you keep talking about Nozomi Shenhua will be like "Nozomi again, huh?"

Apparently we will be able to chop wood for work and Suzuki wants us to be able to fish. I really hope Shenhua's cows play a part and you get to take care of them for your daily duties like you could with the kitten in 1.

I can't wait for them to show us Ren! :hyper
Title: Re: The Shenmue III thread - TEASER TRAILER 8/21 I CANT BELIEVE THIS IS HAPPENING
Post by: Himu on August 23, 2017, 12:00:53 PM
Famitsu interview translated

http://www.phantomriverstone.com/2017/08/translationinterview-with-yu-suzuki.html?m=1
Title: Re: The Shenmue III thread - TEASER TRAILER 8/21 I CANT BELIEVE THIS IS HAPPENING
Post by: TVC15 on August 25, 2017, 10:18:30 PM
Game looks terrible, which is what fans want. Call me when Yu Suzuki returns to his best game, Sword of Vermillion.
Title: Re: The Shenmue III thread - TEASER TRAILER 8/21 I CANT BELIEVE THIS IS HAPPENING
Post by: Himu on August 26, 2017, 01:31:56 AM
https://www.vg247.com/2017/08/25/shenmue-3-open-world-dead-eyed-characters-shenmue-4/

Apparently a great interview. Haven't had the chance to read it.
Title: Re: The Shenmue III thread - TEASER TRAILER 8/21 I CANT BELIEVE THIS IS HAPPENING
Post by: Trent Dole on September 11, 2017, 05:22:15 PM
http://www.siliconera.com/2017/09/11/shenmue-1-2-pack-listed-ps4-xbox-one-via-european-retailers/
Ports incoming?
Title: Re: The Shenmue III thread - TEASER TRAILER 8/21 I CANT BELIEVE THIS IS HAPPENING
Post by: WaveRacer 64 on September 11, 2017, 05:57:45 PM
It has a sort of DeviantArt fanart feel to it, hard to pinpoint what is clashing with the visuals beyond the obvious but I would say it's the shaders and light effects that look like they're turned up to 11.
Title: Re: The Shenmue III thread - TEASER TRAILER 8/21 I CANT BELIEVE THIS IS HAPPENING
Post by: Himu on September 11, 2017, 06:21:32 PM
http://www.siliconera.com/2017/09/11/shenmue-1-2-pack-listed-ps4-xbox-one-via-european-retailers/
Ports incoming?

1 better have time skip for the complainers

Also I really hope that they manage give 1 a Japanese dub track
Title: Re: The Shenmue III thread - TEASER TRAILER 8/21 I CANT BELIEVE THIS IS HAPPENING
Post by: Svejk on May 16, 2018, 08:32:14 AM
Quote
Deep Silver today announce that their upcoming release Shenmue III has been moved and will now release in 2019.

The extra time will be used to polish the quality of the game even further, to the high standards it deserves and release the product in the best possible timeframe.
:doge
Title: Re: The Shenmue III thread - TEASER TRAILER 8/21 I CANT BELIEVE THIS IS HAPPENING
Post by: Great Rumbler on May 16, 2018, 10:37:05 AM
Nobody knew that game development could be this complicated!
Title: Re: The Shenmue III thread - TEASER TRAILER 8/21 I CANT BELIEVE THIS IS HAPPENING
Post by: Rufus on May 16, 2018, 10:44:58 AM
It only completes the nostalgia package.
Title: Re: The Shenmue III thread - TEASER TRAILER 8/21 I CANT BELIEVE THIS IS HAPPENING
Post by: Human Snorenado on May 16, 2018, 10:53:25 AM
I'm just sad that Himu isn't here anymore  :goty2
Title: Re: The Shenmue III thread - TEASER TRAILER 8/21 I CANT BELIEVE THIS IS HAPPENING
Post by: Human Snorenado on May 16, 2018, 10:56:17 AM
Even if it does it's not going to be a "game" anymore than the first two were

:yeshrug
Title: Re: The Shenmue III thread - TEASER TRAILER 8/21 I CANT BELIEVE THIS IS HAPPENING
Post by: I'm a Puppy! on May 16, 2018, 12:54:55 PM
Even if it does it's not going to be a "game" anymore than the first two were

:yeshrug
You gonna try to tell me that airing out books isn't compelling gameplay? :ufup
Title: Re: The Shenmue III thread - TEASER TRAILER 8/21 I CANT BELIEVE THIS IS HAPPENING
Post by: Joe Molotov on May 16, 2018, 01:25:41 PM
I'm just sad that Himu isn't here anymore  :goty2

I'll unban her when this game comes out.
Title: Re: The Shenmue III thread - I CANT BELIEVE THIS [DELAY] IS HAPPENING
Post by: nachobro on May 16, 2018, 02:11:54 PM
:yeshrug

gives me time to play through the remasters now
Title: Re: The Shenmue III thread - I CANT BELIEVE THIS [DELAY] IS HAPPENING
Post by: Nintex on May 16, 2018, 06:02:23 PM
How long before Deep Silver files for bankruptcy because Yu put all their money in flying mediocre voice actors across the globe.
Title: Re: The Shenmue III thread - I CANT BELIEVE THIS [DELAY] IS HAPPENING
Post by: Tasty on May 22, 2018, 04:13:08 PM
I'm just sad that Himu isn't here anymore  :goty2

I'll unban her when this game comes out.

:dead
Title: Re: The Shenmue III thread - TEASER TRAILER 8/21 I CANT BELIEVE THIS IS HAPPENING
Post by: Kurt Russell on May 28, 2018, 05:19:35 AM
While Yakuza 6 came out a month ago with Kiwami 2 out in August.

Best series won :rejoice

...we get it, having trash opinions is your bore gimmick, but this is the most jaw-droppingly idiotic thing you've ever said.
Title: Re: The Shenmue III thread - TEASER TRAILER 8/21 I CANT BELIEVE THIS IS HAPPENING
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on May 28, 2018, 05:27:10 AM
I'm just sad that Himu isn't here anymore  :goty2

I'll unban her when this game comes out.

Assuming Himu is a her when Shenmue 3 comes out
Title: Re: The Shenmue III thread - TEASER TRAILER 8/21 I CANT BELIEVE THIS IS HAPPENING
Post by: Kurt Russell on May 28, 2018, 06:06:52 PM
Exodust is what would happen if Winger and Nickleback had a baby.
Title: Re: The Shenmue III thread - I CANT BELIEVE THIS [DELAY] IS HAPPENING
Post by: Coax on June 28, 2018, 10:22:11 AM
New PC requirements (https://www.gamewatcher.com/news/shenmue-iii-3-pc-system-requirements) reveal 100GB install.

Quote
We thank you for your understanding.

For a game that looks like it does I have no idea what they're doing.
Title: Re: The Shenmue III thread - I CANT BELIEVE THIS [DELAY] IS HAPPENING
Post by: Tasty on June 28, 2018, 10:30:26 AM
They must have gone with fully prerendered cutscenes because the graphics are trash.
Title: Re: The Shenmue III thread - I CANT BELIEVE THIS [DELAY] IS HAPPENING
Post by: nachobro on June 28, 2018, 10:33:22 AM
Haven't gotten my backer survey yet but I still don't know what platform to get it on :-\
Title: Re: The Shenmue III thread - I CANT BELIEVE THIS [DELAY] IS HAPPENING
Post by: Joe Molotov on June 28, 2018, 10:43:12 AM
Haven't gotten my backer survey yet but I still don't know what platform to get it on :-\

PS5
Title: Re: The Shenmue III thread - I CANT BELIEVE THIS [DELAY] IS HAPPENING
Post by: nachobro on June 28, 2018, 10:51:52 AM
 
PS5
:gloomy
Title: Re: The Shenmue III thread - I CANT BELIEVE THIS [DELAY] IS HAPPENING
Post by: seagrams hotsauce on July 04, 2018, 04:25:26 AM
not PC. 30 fps, 4:3 cutscenes, denuvo. lol

August 23 release
Title: Re: The Shenmue III thread - I CANT BELIEVE THIS [DELAY] IS HAPPENING
Post by: nachobro on July 04, 2018, 04:52:38 AM
i went with the physical ps4 version, also i guess i had a shirt included with my pledge? i forgot all the shit i bought in for and then it showed me my total and i got retroactively embarrassed.
Title: Re: The Shenmue III thread - I CANT BELIEVE THIS [DELAY] IS HAPPENING
Post by: thisismyusername on July 04, 2018, 05:46:25 AM
not PC. 30 fps, 4:3 cutscenes, denuvo. lol

August 23 release

Denuvo in a game that can be pirated/emulated already? That's a bold strategy, cotton. Let's see if it works out for them.
Title: Re: The Shenmue III thread - I CANT BELIEVE THIS [DELAY] IS HAPPENING
Post by: Great Rumbler on July 04, 2018, 11:01:35 AM
https://youtu.be/OE_xPfHP0dY
Title: Re: The Shenmue III thread - I CANT BELIEVE THIS [DELAY] IS HAPPENING
Post by: MMaRsu on July 04, 2018, 11:44:54 AM
Denovo = no thx
Title: Re: The Shenmue III thread - I CANT BELIEVE THIS [DELAY] IS HAPPENING
Post by: Kara on July 04, 2018, 01:19:37 PM
Suck it Yazkuza, the king is back. :bow2
Title: Re: The Shenmue III thread - I CANT BELIEVE THIS [DELAY] IS HAPPENING
Post by: eleuin on July 04, 2018, 04:19:43 PM
don't even remember backing this  :lol
the email from "fangamer mailroom" looked like spam

oh well at least it was only $29 to experience this shit show
Title: Re: The Shenmue III thread - I CANT BELIEVE THIS [DELAY] IS HAPPENING
Post by: benjipwns on July 23, 2018, 03:19:26 AM
https://www.voidu.com/en/shenmue-i-ii-2

19% off plus use code "schoolsout" to get another 20% off for $19.43

is a steam key

lowest price to date for those fetishists who need this
Title: Re: The Shenmue III thread - I CANT BELIEVE THIS [DELAY] IS HAPPENING
Post by: Himu on August 21, 2018, 10:05:17 AM
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=umlqbGMuOws

Looks like shit. My expectations have been completely tempered. That is NOT Shenhua. Shenhua doesn’t wear a French beatnik hat and it isn’t yellow. Those models are not acceptable. If you cannot even achieve the fidelity for the main characters as done on the fucking Dreamcast then don’t even bother.
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - looks like shit but I have a obligation of seeing it to the end
Post by: Tasty on August 21, 2018, 10:18:16 AM
Seeing it through? But aren't there still Shenmue 4-6 to go?
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - looks like shit but I have a obligation of seeing it to the end
Post by: Himu on August 21, 2018, 10:28:22 AM
Realistically they only need 4 after 3. But I doubt that’s gonna happen.
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - looks like shit but I have a obligation of seeing it to the end
Post by: I'm a Puppy! on August 21, 2018, 09:35:48 PM
Honestly, I never played Shenmue for the graphics even back in the dreamcast days (not that it wasn't cool back then).
So I'm not too off put. But, typically when animation is bad though, that points to other issues in the game...
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - looks like shit but I have a obligation of seeing it to the end
Post by: Himu on August 21, 2018, 11:37:36 PM
Honestly, I never played Shenmue for the graphics even back in the dreamcast days (not that it wasn't cool back then).
So I'm not too off put. But, typically when animation is bad though, that points to other issues in the game...
That’s my main concern.

But to me they look worse than the Dreamcast versions in the passport. And if you can’t look better than Dreamcast...
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - looks like shit but I have a obligation of seeing it to the end
Post by: I'm a Puppy! on August 22, 2018, 12:16:17 AM
It's Yu Suzuki! When has he ever let you down? :hitler
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - looks like shit but I have a obligation of seeing it to the end
Post by: Himu on August 22, 2018, 12:19:51 AM
Never
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - looks like shit but I have a obligation of seeing it to the end
Post by: Trent Dole on August 22, 2018, 03:59:36 AM
Oh hey you have an exact set day (which they will miss). Bloodstained recently was declared to be '2019' with no window beyond that given. :doge
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - looks like shit but I have a obligation of seeing it to the end
Post by: paprikastaude on August 22, 2018, 07:46:42 AM
e: wrong thread
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - looks like shit but I have a obligation of seeing it to the end
Post by: Himu on February 24, 2019, 12:37:56 AM
https://shenmuedojo.com/edge-magazine-330-to-feature-shenmue-3-coverworld-exclusive-story/

(https://shenmuedojo.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/e5Untitled-1.png)

:obama
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - looks like shit but I have an obligation to see it to the end
Post by: Himu on March 14, 2019, 10:35:42 AM
Dear God

https://za.ign.com/m/shenmue-iii/130291/feature/shenmue-iii-first-gameplay-preview

This preview is like Paul on the road to the Dasmascus.

:bow
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - THIS IS STILL REAL?!
Post by: bork on March 14, 2019, 10:52:45 AM
Hope this gets a retail release so people ask for it like they did back in the Dreamcast days: "Ya'll got that SHEN-MOO-WAY?"

Right up there with "Residential Evil" and "Capcom versus Sink."
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - THIS IS STILL REAL?!
Post by: Himu on March 14, 2019, 10:54:10 AM
It apparently will be released at retail :rejoice
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - THIS IS STILL REAL?!
Post by: Svejk on March 14, 2019, 10:57:04 AM
Quote
“Can you open drawers and closets like in the old games?” I asked Yu Suzuki, the man behind the Shenmue series.

“Of course” he said. “It’s Shenmue, after all.”
:rejoice
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - THIS IS STILL REAL?!
Post by: bork on March 14, 2019, 10:58:32 AM
Quote
“Can you open drawers and closets like in the old games?” I asked Yu Suzuki, the man behind the Shenmue series.

“Of course” he said. “It’s Shenmue, after all.”
:rejoice

Quote
“And after you open drawers and closets like in the old games, can you do anything?” I asked Yu Suzuki, the man behind the Shenmue series.

“Of course not” he said. “It’s Shenmue, after all.”

:rollsafe
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - THIS IS STILL REAL?!
Post by: Svejk on March 14, 2019, 11:13:16 AM
 :heyman
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - THIS IS STILL REAL?!
Post by: Joe Molotov on April 11, 2019, 10:52:59 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/AGjVonL.jpg?1)

(https://i.imgur.com/RG0BS1U.gif)
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - THIS IS STILL REAL?!
Post by: Himu on April 11, 2019, 10:54:00 AM
:rejoice
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - THIS IS STILL REAL?!
Post by: thisismyusername on April 11, 2019, 11:05:09 AM
Someone better port in the All Stars Racing Transformed tracks to make the day-job portion actually fun. :goty2
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - THIS IS STILL REAL?!
Post by: Himu on April 11, 2019, 11:08:22 AM
Someone better port in the All Stars Racing Transformed tracks to make the day-job portion actually fun. :goty2

In Shenmue III you can fish for a day job. Problem solved.
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - THIS IS STILL REAL?!
Post by: Don Rumata on April 11, 2019, 12:06:12 PM
I hope this game isn't gonna turn out as a self-referential hell of a meme fest.
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - THIS IS STILL REAL?!
Post by: Svejk on April 11, 2019, 12:44:01 PM
It kinda sucks that SI & II saves won't transfer.  That pretty much eliminated the chance of me replaying them, when I can just refresh on youtubez.
spoiler (click to show/hide)
Who am I kidding, I don't have time to play through them again anyway. lol
[close]

Anywho, queue the music... 8)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hpj1d8EJbJk
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - THIS IS STILL REAL?!
Post by: tiesto on April 11, 2019, 04:47:48 PM
I hope this game isn't gonna turn out as a self-referential hell of a meme fest.

I'd be worried if western indie devs were making it. They love putting memes and wink wink 4th wall stuff for better or worse.
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - THIS IS STILL REAL?!
Post by: VomKriege on June 03, 2019, 03:13:58 PM
Delayed to Fall 2019.
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - THIS IS STILL REAL?!
Post by: Svejk on June 03, 2019, 03:18:58 PM
Coming out the same month as Def Stranding now.  :doge
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - THIS IS STILL REAL?!
Post by: nachobro on June 03, 2019, 03:19:20 PM
two masterpieces a week apart :rejoice
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - THIS IS STILL REAL?!
Post by: MMaRsu on June 03, 2019, 04:53:09 PM
yeah its gonna sell even less now maybe
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - THIS IS STILL REAL?!
Post by: Himu on June 06, 2019, 07:29:40 PM
https://twitter.com/CFG_Cebman/status/1136756559143407617

Holy fuck
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - THIS IS STILL REAL?!
Post by: Tasty on June 10, 2019, 03:47:50 PM
https://twitter.com/Nibellion/status/1138144531805802496

👀
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - THIS IS STILL REAL?!
Post by: headwalk on June 10, 2019, 03:50:46 PM
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/ysnet/shenmue-3/comments

handling it well.
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - THIS IS STILL REAL?!
Post by: Himu on June 10, 2019, 03:51:26 PM
get fucked deep silver
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - THIS IS STILL REAL?!
Post by: Tasty on June 10, 2019, 03:51:35 PM
Damn PC gamers are crazy lol
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - THIS IS STILL REAL?!
Post by: Himu on June 10, 2019, 03:51:47 PM
this game is fucked now.
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - THIS IS STILL REAL?!
Post by: Tasty on June 10, 2019, 03:54:30 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/KEbUJJ1.jpg)
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - THIS IS STILL REAL?!
Post by: Svejk on June 10, 2019, 03:58:03 PM
Consoles be like this to PC now...

(https://media1.tenor.com/images/f354e94951fc9abc544bea3d28b26c66/tenor.gif)
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - THIS IS STILL REAL?!
Post by: Himu on June 10, 2019, 04:05:05 PM
Except you can just install the store if you want the game...

Shut the fuck up. Epic is a cluster fuck and inferior service. I don't really care what I want. This is bad for the game and this has damaged its reputation beyond repair.
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - THIS IS STILL REAL?!
Post by: Nuitangg on June 10, 2019, 04:09:01 PM
Uplay and Origin were both shit in the beginning.  Both less shitty now.
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - THIS IS STILL REAL?!
Post by: Himu on June 10, 2019, 04:09:19 PM
I don't really give a fuck. Reaction to the news is understandably bad. This is bad for the game. When it comes to Shenmue, I give no fucks. I only care about what's good for the game. This is NOT good for the game.
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - THIS IS STILL REAL?!
Post by: paprikastaude on June 10, 2019, 04:17:02 PM
Except you can just install the store if you want the game...

This, don't get the drama of the last months. Are fat gabe's cheerleaders fighting for the titles of worst fanboys, or what?  :lol  But then again, pc nerds were already up there with nintendies in the last years.
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - THIS IS STILL REAL?!
Post by: Himu on June 10, 2019, 04:20:39 PM
Why is it hard to understand that the game was advertised for being on a certain service for 4 years and it turns out it won't be?
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - THIS IS STILL REAL?!
Post by: Himu on June 10, 2019, 04:31:06 PM
Why is it hard to understand that the game was advertised for being on a certain service for 4 years and it turns out it won't be?

Nobody is lacking in this understanding.

not really. many are dismissive like Spieler
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - THIS IS STILL REAL?!
Post by: Trent Dole on June 10, 2019, 04:36:23 PM
lol
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - THIS IS STILL REAL?!
Post by: thisismyusername on June 10, 2019, 04:38:03 PM
Damn PC gamers are crazy lol

(https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/935/229/02b.jpg)

>Epic store

(https://i.imgur.com/SAYTyy4.png)

This same anger was lobbed at MS for Games for Windows Live and it needing X-box Live gold to play online, for instance. It's just terrible shit to pull on an "open" platform.
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - THIS IS STILL REAL?!
Post by: thisismyusername on June 10, 2019, 04:40:11 PM
Except you can just install the store if you want the game...

Or go to the pirate bay like a smart person.

I'd rather the Russian's have my information than the Chinese. Thank you very much.
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - THIS IS STILL REAL?!
Post by: Don Rumata on June 10, 2019, 06:20:13 PM
Except you can just install the store if you want the game...

Or go to the pirate bay like a smart person.

I'd rather the Russian's have my information than the Chinese. Thank you very much.
Chinese food > Russian food.
Think carefully as to who you want to be your new masters.
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - THIS IS STILL REAL?!
Post by: thisismyusername on June 10, 2019, 06:22:46 PM
Except you can just install the store if you want the game...

Or go to the pirate bay like a smart person.

I'd rather the Russian's have my information than the Chinese. Thank you very much.
Chinese food > Russian food.
Think carefully as to who you want to be your new masters.

I'm not talking food. I'm talking my personal information. I don't trust China with that.
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - THIS IS STILL REAL?!
Post by: Momo on June 10, 2019, 07:19:48 PM
O m e g a l u l. Glad I moved back to console mid gen.
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - THIS IS STILL REAL?!
Post by: Don Rumata on June 10, 2019, 07:29:54 PM
O m e g a l u l. Glad I moved back to console mid gen.
Lol,
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - THIS IS STILL REAL?!
Post by: Momo on June 10, 2019, 07:34:11 PM
I'm not building a new pc till Star citizen is in at least beta. See you guys in 2035 on mars.
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - THIS IS STILL REAL?!
Post by: Kara on June 10, 2019, 09:32:10 PM
Ryo is getting out of that fucking cave and I don't care how many shitty distribution platforms I have to install in order for that to happen.

:bolo
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - THIS IS STILL REAL?!
Post by: MMaRsu on June 11, 2019, 01:26:08 AM
ayy lmao deceiving backers with thos egs bullshit again fuck you deep silver and yu suzuki
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - THIS IS STILL REAL?!
Post by: Momo on June 11, 2019, 02:10:14 AM
I bet Yu Suzuki knows next to fuckall about EGS and is just happy making the game, blame DS really.
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - THIS IS STILL REAL?!
Post by: VomKriege on June 11, 2019, 02:21:43 AM
Would Shenmue III (or Phoenix Point or any other games with a similar controversy) had been fine if they only ever mentioned PC as a platform -though there's also the Windows / Linux issue at that level- without mentioning Steam ? It's impressive that the two became so synonymous they were used almost interchangeably up to the launch of EGS. I don't know if they could have gotten away from mentioning Valve's service since players would probably have bombarded them with questions to clarify that point.
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - THIS IS STILL REAL?!
Post by: MMaRsu on June 11, 2019, 02:39:10 AM
Really these are right moves? Alienating a large part of the pc playerbase?
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - THIS IS STILL REAL?!
Post by: Trent Dole on June 11, 2019, 02:59:54 AM
Really these are right moves? Alienating a large part of the pc playerbase?
Epic gives a larger cut of sales and all those PC backers are guaranteed $$$ so from a business standpoint, arguably? :-[ Alienating a big chunk of the people who helped make the game happen is probably not a very good idea though even if there's a payout involved.
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - THIS IS STILL REAL?!
Post by: MMaRsu on June 11, 2019, 05:53:00 AM
What sales though, barely anything is selling on the egs. Even their free games are downloaded by less than 5% of egs users.
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - THIS IS STILL REAL?!
Post by: thisismyusername on June 11, 2019, 09:06:09 AM
Trent, what does that have to do with his question? :lol

Every Epic store defender (and even the fucking CEO) uses: "Muh 12% cut!" and has nothing else to argue why the Epic store is better. :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - THIS IS STILL REAL?!
Post by: Great Rumbler on June 11, 2019, 09:15:34 AM
We do at least know that Metro: Exodus sold like total garbage on EGS, dunno outside that, though.
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - THIS IS STILL REAL?!
Post by: Momo on June 11, 2019, 09:18:02 AM
Isnt that cut also only for US sales or something like only for some payment processors or get fucked?
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - THIS IS STILL REAL?!
Post by: thisismyusername on June 11, 2019, 09:27:38 AM
Isnt that cut also only for US sales or something like only for some payment processors or get fucked?

I know he's tweeted about it with "well that's payment processors, baby. XD" but I can't find it.

Anyway, SteamSpy dude and Sweeny can go fuck a duck.
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - THIS IS STILL REAL?!
Post by: Coffee Dog on June 11, 2019, 10:55:11 AM
Frankly, at this point I'm glad we're more focused on storefronts than the game itself. It's low budget as fuck and shows it, and gamers have been allergic to ugly games for like fifteen years. This isnt going to be a hit with anyone but the people that already liked Shenmue, and that renders it DOA. Hope its good so i can enjoy it at least.

Why is it hard to understand that the game was advertised for being on a certain service for 4 years and it turns out it won't be?

I bought the first two mass effect games on steam and the third one launched as a EA store exclusive despite that. I just dont see the difference to me as someone who plays these games between this and that situation back in 2012. I know i was intending to use my steam credit to buy this now exclusive game and it pissed me off that i couldnt. And guess what? It turned out it really didnt matter and it was just another launcher.

My computer currently has installed
-steam
-Bnet
-Origin

There are also
-bethesda launcher
-uplay

How is this any different?
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - THIS IS STILL REAL?!
Post by: Momo on June 11, 2019, 11:21:30 AM
Jesus if there's one thing I wish I could uninstall, it's bnet.
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - THIS IS STILL REAL?!
Post by: thisismyusername on June 11, 2019, 11:39:29 AM
Jesus if there's one thing I wish I could uninstall, it's bnet.

Do it, figgit. I don't miss it for anything.

-Steam
-Origin
-Uplay (soon to be uninstalled since no longer selling on Steam)

That's it. Maybe GoG for Gwent but that's so minor that I don't really launch the launcher unless an update stops it from running.
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - THIS IS STILL REAL?!
Post by: Momo on June 11, 2019, 11:47:52 AM
I have asshole friends that force me to play hots :fbm
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - THIS IS STILL REAL?!
Post by: MMaRsu on June 11, 2019, 12:45:41 PM
Frankly, at this point I'm glad we're more focused on storefronts than the game itself. It's low budget as fuck and shows it, and gamers have been allergic to ugly games for like fifteen years. This isnt going to be a hit with anyone but the people that already liked Shenmue, and that renders it DOA. Hope its good so i can enjoy it at least.

Why is it hard to understand that the game was advertised for being on a certain service for 4 years and it turns out it won't be?

I bought the first two mass effect games on steam and the third one launched as a EA store exclusive despite that. I just dont see the difference to me as someone who plays these games between this and that situation back in 2012. I know i was intending to use my steam credit to buy this now exclusive game and it pissed me off that i couldnt. And guess what? It turned out it really didnt matter and it was just another launcher.

My computer currently has installed
-steam
-Bnet
-Origin

There are also
-bethesda launcher
-uplay

How is this any different?

Because EGS isn't " just another launcher " bro. Get that disengenous crap outta here. Inform yourself.
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - THIS IS EPIC!
Post by: BisMarckie on June 11, 2019, 12:48:24 PM
Be a fanboy for a distribution and DRM platform brehs :sabu
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - THIS IS EPIC!
Post by: MMaRsu on June 11, 2019, 01:29:55 PM
Oh so enjoying all your games in one place, ease of access, ease of features, choice of where to purchase and a centralized friends list is being a fanboy  :leon

having your fav games held hostage on a service that sucks ass is not being a fanboy  :heh

BisMarckie you are a nice dude but you're wrong on this one bro.
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - THIS IS EPIC!
Post by: paprikastaude on June 11, 2019, 01:47:37 PM
Oh so enjoying all your games in one place, ease of access, ease of features, choice of where to purchase and a centralized friends list

so... a pc?  :ryker
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - THIS IS EPIC!
Post by: Himu on June 11, 2019, 01:52:31 PM
Imagine being a Shenmue diehard, finally getting a sequel and continuation to your favorite game, and it ends up going down in flames.

I really need a pat on the back.

:goty
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - THIS IS EPIC!
Post by: Chooky on June 11, 2019, 02:03:29 PM
imagine missing out on a series revival because of a controversy manufactured by school shooters
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - THIS IS EPIC!
Post by: Himu on June 11, 2019, 02:10:02 PM
imagine missing out on a series revival because of a controversy manufactured by school shooters

?
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - THIS IS EPIC!
Post by: Trent Dole on June 11, 2019, 02:11:23 PM
Imagine being a Shenmue diehard, finally getting a sequel and continuation to your favorite game, and it ends up going down in flames.

I really need a pat on the back.

:goty
A Sega adjacent thing ending in fuckery? Well I never!
(https://i.imgur.com/5WPKLdM.jpg)
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - THIS IS EPIC!
Post by: Mr Gilhaney on June 11, 2019, 02:25:08 PM
imagine missing out on a series revival because of a controversy manufactured by school shooters

imagine wanting more shenmue
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - THIS IS EPIC!
Post by: Momo on June 11, 2019, 02:25:23 PM
Someday someone competent will buy/run Sega and Atari, I'll be dead by them but I will shed a single tear and nod my head from above in the great spaceship while playing coop games with xenu
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - THIS IS EPIC!
Post by: Kara on June 11, 2019, 02:54:23 PM
Imagine being a Shenmue diehard, finally getting a sequel and continuation to your favorite game, and it ends up going down in flames.

I really need a pat on the back.

:goty

Dan - Be brave and stay calm to make the right decision
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - THIS IS EPIC!
Post by: MMaRsu on June 11, 2019, 03:30:09 PM
Oh so enjoying all your games in one place, ease of access, ease of features, choice of where to purchase and a centralized friends list

so... a pc?  :ryker

Yeah until this exclusivity bullshit started ;)
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - THIS IS EPIC!
Post by: Kara on June 11, 2019, 03:58:33 PM
Bitters, 2013: :lol Keep dreaming, they'll never make a Shenmue 3. A Lunar sequel is just as likely.

Bitters, 2015: :lol Sure thing, Yu Suzuki is going to deliver on this.

Bitters, 2017: :lol Vaporware!!

Bitters, 2019: Now that Shenmue 3 is definitely coming out I am VERY passionate about DRM platform exclusivity.
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - THIS IS EPIC!
Post by: Himu on June 11, 2019, 03:59:18 PM
HOLY FUCK 13 MINUTES OF SHENMUE III GAMEPLAY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ROKhVOFkZfs
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I still can't believe this is real!
Post by: BisMarckie on June 11, 2019, 04:50:14 PM
It looks like a game from around 2006.

Yet I don‘t think that‘s a bad thing somehow in this specific case. :gopnik
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I still can't believe this is real!
Post by: Himu on June 11, 2019, 04:58:01 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gSI9XWCm0Xc

Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - THIS IS EPIC!
Post by: MMaRsu on June 11, 2019, 05:45:25 PM
Bitters, 2013: :lol Keep dreaming, they'll never make a Shenmue 3. A Lunar sequel is just as likely.

Bitters, 2015: :lol Sure thing, Yu Suzuki is going to deliver on this.

Bitters, 2017: :lol Vaporware!!

Bitters, 2019: Now that Shenmue 3 is definitely coming out I am VERY passionate about DRM platform exclusivity.

well I personally have zero attachment to Shenmue 3 I just hate exclusivity on the pc platform, holding games hostage so it is sold nowhere else. That doesn't incentivize me to use your store at all. So Epic can fuck right off with their bullshit.
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I still can't believe this is real!
Post by: paprikastaude on June 11, 2019, 05:47:57 PM
having an inexplicable fetish for this  :gaben =/= holding hostage. You can play it any time on the platform you own  :doge
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I still can't believe this is real!
Post by: team filler on June 11, 2019, 05:50:02 PM
should be switch exclusive
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I still can't believe this is real!
Post by: Bebpo on June 11, 2019, 07:28:47 PM
So I watched the trailer and gameplay footage and why does this game still look like a DC/PS2 game with PS3/X360 graphics? Like the animations and models look like an indie game but doesn't this have a decent AA budget?

I sorta see games like Darksiders as medium budget AA games and they look way better than this visually. This looks like a 3 person indie team in a garage working for a few years on a $500k budget.
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I still can't believe this is real!
Post by: Kara on June 11, 2019, 09:39:19 PM
Cindi... these clips you posted. We're here at last. :tocry

And best of all it looks like something from an alternate timeline where Dreamcast won that console generation.
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I still can't believe this is real!
Post by: BisMarckie on June 11, 2019, 09:41:33 PM


And best of all it looks like something from an alternate timeline where Dreamcast won that console generation.

That's what I wanted to say with my 2006 comment, it works for this game.
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I still can't believe this is real!
Post by: Himu on June 11, 2019, 09:49:53 PM
This is so peaceful and chill. Holy fucking shit Shenmue really is back.

https://youtu.be/FaPzMrYzLZA
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I still can't believe this is real!
Post by: Himu on June 11, 2019, 09:52:53 PM
The videos are missing music because of the way the streamer played it. Apparently he turned it off.

Dojo folks have added music and bah gawd. It's so peaceful and relaxing, the way Shenmue should be.

https://youtu.be/Www9bqNDHs0
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I still can't believe this is real!
Post by: Svejk on June 11, 2019, 10:41:18 PM
YUSSSSSS
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I still can't believe this is real!
Post by: nachobro on June 11, 2019, 10:44:39 PM
this game is gonna be fuckin great
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I still can't believe this is real!
Post by: Kara on June 12, 2019, 12:48:08 AM
This is so peaceful and chill. Holy fucking shit Shenmue really is back.

https://youtu.be/FaPzMrYzLZA

Richard Epcar?!?!?! :o
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I still can't believe this is real!
Post by: MMaRsu on June 12, 2019, 07:54:46 AM
having an inexplicable fetish for this  :gaben =/= holding hostage. You can play it any time on the platform you own  :doge

Stop this moronic line of arguments that Im a steam fanboy. Fuck off if you dont want to read
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I still can't believe this is real!
Post by: Huff on June 12, 2019, 08:05:16 AM
lol MMaRsu making a run at being more of a dipshit than rituous
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I still can't believe this is real!
Post by: Momo on June 12, 2019, 08:20:49 AM
I agree with MMaRsu about 95% of this stuff, where we split is having time to argue over bullshit like this.
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I still can't believe this is real!
Post by: Himu on June 12, 2019, 08:54:35 AM
https://m.ign.com/articles/2019/06/12/shenmue-3-feels-more-like-a-video-game-than-its-predecessors-a-e3-2019 

Omg I just read a preview for Shenmue III! Pinch me!!
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I still can't believe this is real!
Post by: Kara on June 12, 2019, 10:12:56 AM
https://m.ign.com/articles/2019/06/12/shenmue-3-feels-more-like-a-video-game-than-its-predecessors-a-e3-2019 

Omg I just read a preview for Shenmue III! Pinch me!!

Quote
A new element Shenmue III brings to the series, is that Ryo now needs to eat. Ryo’s stamina decreases when he runs as well as when he gets hit during battles. To regain stamina he needs to either sleep or eat. If you don’t recover your stamina, it means that you’ll be going into battles with less HP, and Ryo will lose the ability to run while exploring. On paper that doesn’t sound fun at all, but simulating Ryo’s everyday needs of food and sleep feels like a natural evolution for the series.

We're gonna eat, y'all. :whew

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“I see these mini games as a form of meditation. There’s many different ways to achieve your goal in Shenmue III. If you’re not sure where you want to start, you might want to give it a thought while chopping some wood or performing the horse stance for a while.”

:whoo
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I still can't believe this is real!
Post by: Himu on June 14, 2019, 12:43:22 AM
I hate this guys inflectiONS....but I like, his, video.......

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eXwXIkjaMC0
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I still can't believe this is real!
Post by: MMaRsu on June 14, 2019, 05:28:39 AM
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Hello Everyone,


We want to make sure that the Backers are aware that we are listening to their concerns. We kindly ask all our fans to have some patience, we are currently at E3 demoing the game and need to get back to our respective offices to assess the situation and together find a way forward to justify the trust you placed in us.



Thank you for your patience and support.
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I still can't believe this is real!
Post by: MMaRsu on June 14, 2019, 05:32:18 AM
https://youtu.be/THfDYs6YtOM
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I still can't believe this is real!
Post by: Kara on June 14, 2019, 11:21:03 AM
I'm sure you got that backer email.
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I still can't believe this is real!
Post by: MMaRsu on June 14, 2019, 12:39:50 PM
I'm sure you got that backer email.

Nah I didn't back this shit but I just wanted to post it here for all to see :)

I was gonna buy this on Steam though
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I still can't believe this is real!
Post by: Kara on June 14, 2019, 02:02:04 PM
That was sarcasm, it's obvious you don't give a shit about the game and are doing console warZzz shite.
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I still can't believe this is real!
Post by: MMaRsu on June 14, 2019, 02:15:30 PM
Uhh ok? I played the original on Dreamcast back in the day. But thanks for your hot take. I haven't ever backed a game, but I do buy games that were kickstarted.
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I still can't believe this is real!
Post by: Himu on June 14, 2019, 03:07:28 PM
If you are going to come to this thread just to shit and troll please fuck off.
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I still can't believe this is real!
Post by: Himu on June 14, 2019, 03:11:10 PM
btw, I do feel betrayed. I've lost money and am not getting what I specifically paid for. But I still have hope they will make right of this and give out steam keys to those who ordered them.
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I still can't believe this is real!
Post by: Svejk on June 14, 2019, 03:19:06 PM
I'm thinking they will...  I got an email stating that they aware of all the concerns and are going to do their best to address it. 

BELIEVE

(https://images-wixmp-ed30a86b8c4ca887773594c2.wixmp.com/f/cbd5baf7-3bcb-4f2c-8dcc-1ce7e072f0ff/dbc6xhu-57d1690b-42fd-4f77-ac38-e5f2a64bec65.jpg?token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJzdWIiOiJ1cm46YXBwOjdlMGQxODg5ODIyNjQzNzNhNWYwZDQxNWVhMGQyNmUwIiwiaXNzIjoidXJuOmFwcDo3ZTBkMTg4OTgyMjY0MzczYTVmMGQ0MTVlYTBkMjZlMCIsIm9iaiI6W1t7InBhdGgiOiJcL2ZcL2NiZDViYWY3LTNiY2ItNGYyYy04ZGNjLTFjZTdlMDcyZjBmZlwvZGJjNnhodS01N2QxNjkwYi00MmZkLTRmNzctYWMzOC1lNWYyYTY0YmVjNjUuanBnIn1dXSwiYXVkIjpbInVybjpzZXJ2aWNlOmZpbGUuZG93bmxvYWQiXX0.u0wRo2KZuL_hZ8DA6FZROwI_b_kgrKaUxQqDJgpQemw)
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I still can't believe this is real!
Post by: Himu on June 14, 2019, 03:23:23 PM
Either way I will be double and triple, maybe even quadruple dipping.

Copies bought and paid for so far:

ps4 ks art book edition
regular boxed pc

Waiting to pre-order:

limited run game collectors edition
 
who knows after that.
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I still can't believe this is real!
Post by: Kara on June 14, 2019, 03:41:27 PM
I used to care about having everything on one platform, then I stopped PC gaming (other than card games) regularly. Now no matter what platform I fire up I have to install patches out the wazoo so functionally it's the same crummy user experience no matter what.

That said, I'm sympathetic to actual backers who care.

If you didn't back, then go play a game of lucky hit before I hop in a black car and merc your pops in his dojo.
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I still can't believe this is real!
Post by: Himu on June 14, 2019, 05:32:10 PM
My issue is this:

1. I paid for a steam copy specifically. So did many others.

2. I was going to build a pc specifically to play Shenmue III because my current computer is unable to run something like it.

3. Egs is exclusive for a year. The copy is ordered will come with an EGS code. I don’t want to play it on egs, which has sketchy practices. Once that year exclusive deal is over I will not have a steam key still despite having bought it for steam already. I will have to buy another copy of Shenmue III on pc which is utter bullshit.

4.they even said originally that the pc version would be a physical version with an actual disc. Turns out this was not true and it’s just a code. Why would I, a Shenmue fan, want a physical code? I want a physical version to future proof my purchase so I am not beholden to digital storefronts. I believed it would be an actual disc that could be applied so I could also own it on steam. I have done that with pc games in the past.

Everything related to the pc version has been fucked.

Thankfully also ordered a PS4 version.
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I still can't believe this is real!
Post by: nachobro on June 17, 2019, 01:45:39 PM
I went with the PS4 version cause at the time that was the only physical edition. I didn't even own a PS4 at the time but I wanted physical. :lol Kinda glad I didn't swap to PC now even though I'd prefer Physical Steam to PS4 even if it'd just be an empty box. I just never use my PS4 and I really dislike the controller.

Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I still can't believe this is real!
Post by: Himu on June 17, 2019, 02:09:35 PM
Did you order both in the event one of them fucked you over? If so,  :rollsafe

No I went with both because PS4 would be nice but PC would be ultimate version because of fidelity and mods. When it comes to Shenmue I buy for all systems, no fucks given. I had II on DC and Xbox for example. Need to rebuy II DC since I sold it years back for cash. :( I needed the money. I turn into full on Bork collector mode when it comes to Shenmue. I'm buying multiple copies of the retail version for instance. Gamestop has a pre-order bonus and I will be getting that version for the bonus. Limited Run Games has a Collectors Edition coming and I will be buying that version because it looks like a good collectors edition. So in the end I will end up with 4-5 copies of Shenmue III.
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I still can't believe this is real!
Post by: thisismyusername on June 17, 2019, 02:59:50 PM
Playing Shenmue 1 and I'm enjoying it more than my last replay. so that's good.

Just wait until you reach the job area.

Worst part of both games. Two games running.
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I still can't believe this is real!
Post by: Himu on June 17, 2019, 03:07:59 PM
Best part.
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I still can't believe this is real!
Post by: The Sceneman on June 22, 2019, 09:51:42 AM
I'd better get my ass into gear and play through Shenmue 1&2 on Xbone while theyre on GamePass. I need to get ready for todays forklift race
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I still can't believe this is real!
Post by: nachobro on July 02, 2019, 08:51:11 AM
So the new kickstarter email offered some new options. They basically said they can't do steam keys at launch but they will now offer refunds OR you can opt to get a steam key after one year.

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/ysnet/shenmue-3/posts/2553891

Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I still can't believe this is real!
Post by: Tasty on July 02, 2019, 09:42:39 AM
So the new kickstarter email offered some new options. They basically said they can't do steam keys at launch but they will now offer refunds OR you can opt to get a steam key after one year.

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/ysnet/shenmue-3/posts/2553891



It sucks but I kinda applaud the transparency, we usually don't get any details about these "deals" until they're expired, so the fact they're definitively pegging it for a year is somewhat refreshing. It's a while out but at least they're not like "Yeah sometime in 2020 probly."

They can still be criticized for the initial decision regarding EGS, but that ship sailed and so the question now is "how to move forward."

In a year, Shenmue 3 will be on PS4, Epic Games Store, and Steam (and by then, probably half price or less.) I'm not sure who can complain about that.
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I still can't believe this is real!
Post by: nachobro on July 02, 2019, 10:40:57 AM
I'm sure someone will find a way :lol
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I still can't believe this is real!
Post by: Coffee Dog on July 02, 2019, 11:03:52 AM
I just hope that enough refunds are processed that it materially hurts the game. Everybody threw money at the screen because Sony told them to without considering the game that was being made or understabding the fluid and unreliable nature of kickstarter projects. Now people saw slow gameplay and low budget graphics and remembered that they didnt want shenmue, all this epic stuff is a bigger deal than the game itself because everyone already wants to avoid paying money for it in the first place and is looking for an excuse to do so.
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I still can't believe this is real!
Post by: Tasty on July 02, 2019, 11:11:49 AM
I just hope that enough refunds are processed that it materially hurts the game. Everybody threw money at the screen because Sony told them to without considering the game that was being made or understabding the fluid and unreliable nature of kickstarter projects. Now people saw slow gameplay and low budget graphics and remembered that they didnt want shenmue, all this epic stuff is a bigger deal than the game itself because everyone already wants to avoid paying money for it in the first place and is looking for an excuse to do so.

On the surface this seems like a wild theory, but it might actually have some merit. :thinking

Plugging the KS at the Sony conference was definitely weird and I wouldn't ever want to see something like that again; on the other hand, if Shenmue 3 wouldn't exist without having done that, then it's hard to criticize.
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I still can't believe this is real!
Post by: Himu on July 02, 2019, 11:20:38 AM
Well at least I don’t have to rebuy what I paid for.

Also, people now have to wait an entire year to play a Shenmue game as it’s held hostage by some shady deal.

Lol things never change. This game is fucked. We will not be getting Shenmue 4 unless epic or someone finances it. Which is unlikely because that’s why they needed to do the KS to begin with, which isn’t another trick theybcan pull off. This games rep is so tainted with such bad PR and marketing that I do not see it hitting 1 million, much less 200k. I’m going to enjoy the ride and thank Deep Silver and Epic for killing Shenmue - AGAIN.

I just hope that enough refunds are processed that it materially hurts the game. Everybody threw money at the screen because Sony told them to without considering the game that was being made or understabding the fluid and unreliable nature of kickstarter projects. Now people saw slow gameplay and low budget graphics and remembered that they didnt want shenmue, all this epic stuff is a bigger deal than the game itself because everyone already wants to avoid paying money for it in the first place and is looking for an excuse to do so.

At this point the game is published by Deep Silver who gave fat stacks and Epic. Lol it’ll be fine in that regard.

What you should be worrying about now is how this will impact the game sales long term as Steam was a good place to sell such a niche product.
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I still can't believe this is real!
Post by: Coffee Dog on July 02, 2019, 11:23:28 AM
I just hope that enough refunds are processed that it materially hurts the game. Everybody threw money at the screen because Sony told them to without considering the game that was being made or understabding the fluid and unreliable nature of kickstarter projects. Now people saw slow gameplay and low budget graphics and remembered that they didnt want shenmue, all this epic stuff is a bigger deal than the game itself because everyone already wants to avoid paying money for it in the first place and is looking for an excuse to do so.

On the surface this seems like a wild theory, but it might actually have some merit. :thinking

Plugging the KS at the Sony conference was definitely weird and I wouldn't ever want to see something like that again; on the other hand, if Shenmue 3 wouldn't exist without having done that, then it's hard to criticize.

The game was going to get savaged on release for being a game about chopping wood and slowly mastering martial arts stances. At least now everyone who doesnt enjoy the series can just take their money and gtfo months in advance, the discourse around the game will be a thousand times better as a niche bomb than some colossal hype juggernaut that pisses off eight million dollars worth of people simultaneously.
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I still can't believe this is real!
Post by: Tasty on July 02, 2019, 11:31:26 AM
Shenmue 2 bombed so hard it put the series in a coma for almost two decades, and was also notoriously difficult to attempt to port (for technical and/or legal reasons; I know a 360 port was in the works but canned at some point.)

I kinda doubt Shenmue 3 will do that much damage, especially if Coffee Dog's prediction comes to pass and the launch is just Shenmue uber-fans lapping it up. I also have to think Deep Silver will try porting the game to anything under the sun that can run it, going into the future. We might see Shenmue Trilogy on PlayStation 5 or Switch 2, etc.

The series still has a future, it's just not particularly clear what it is yet. But at least there's hope, which I'm not sure you could say after Suzuki got "corner desk'd" and the Dreamcast died.
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I still can't believe this is real!
Post by: Himu on July 02, 2019, 11:39:53 AM
The game would be fine as a kung fu simulator.

Who cares about the Kickstarter?

You have to convince at least a million people to buy Shenmue III in order to get a IV.

These controversies do not help.

We live in a gaming environment where Animal Crossing is considered a top tier franchise, a game like Life Is Strange has an audience. Niche games have never been more successful than now. A game like Shenmue had more cards on its table to be enjoyed and find its audience now than in 1999/2001 when it was stuck on the Dreamcast. This is partially why Steam was a great choice: it’s full of niche successes. It’s the platform that Valkyrie Chronicles, Dark Souls, and Ys extremely popular and a big tent.

Pissing people kickstarters off?

Not only that but they pissed off consumers by pissing kickstarters off by proxy on top of not putting it on a safe bet platform on release.

This game will not be successful. Not because it’s not niche - after all we live in a  gaming landscape where games that allow you to work as Uber Drivers or Fascist regime border suppliers exist - but because of the utterly horrific marketing and controversies. Now that they have pissed off the majority of pc gamers - a massive of slice of sales this game was relying on - you basically only have PS4.

This game is fucked and it’s not because it has you training in horse stance.
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I still can't believe this is real!
Post by: Himu on July 02, 2019, 11:41:52 AM
Fuck Deep Silver and Epic.
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I still can't believe this is real!
Post by: Coffee Dog on July 02, 2019, 11:57:16 AM
Games like Life Is Strange and Animal Crossing are hardly niche; Animal Crossing is a massively successful multimillion selling market leader interior design game and Life Is Strange is a critically successful drama that made way more money than anyone writing the sub-Degrassi high script deserves because the market constantly craves for an influx of barely interactive "narrative games". These games have massive commercially viable hooks and have massive playerbases because of it.

Shenmue is an extremely slow walking around town talking/punching people game in an industry clogged full of massive open worlds and no shortage of games with more exciting melee combat. It's not a "sexy" game in the least. Yakuza games are the sexy version of Shenmue and I'm sure even Judgement will dunk on Shenmue 3 in terms of sales.

Its not like the Shenmue pc ports caused a resurgence of articles like "go back and play Shenmue, its a classic". It was a lot of "these games are weird and old and make me fall asleep, I hope Shenmue 3 learns a lot of lessons from it". Remasters/remakes are a huge deal in getting people hyped, and their reception was pretty indicative of how a faithful and authentic 3rd game would be received. It's not worth entertaining the possibility that in 2019 Shenmue would become some big breakout success with content creators gushing over how magical the experience is; we're already past that point. Shenmue is a real niche, not some 5 million seller my girlfriend wants to play like Animal Crossing. It's more in common with those train simulator games that the press passes over every year than anything commercially viable for a large audience.
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I still can't believe this is real!
Post by: Himu on July 02, 2019, 11:58:08 AM
Some niche game where you stamp papers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_QP5X6fcukM

Some game that has literally no action.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AURVxvIZrmU

Some game where you play as a cyberpunk bartender.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7x393waFKDw

I personally think you have to be a fool to think Shenmue III would bomb naturally just because it has you chopping wood. That, or grossly uninformed about today's gaming.

There's no denying it's a niche product. But today's gaming is all about successful niche products.

It's all a matter of:

A. the game being good
B. marketing

So far they have completely stumbled the marketing and show nothing but story sequences when they should be showing Shenmue to be the kung fu simulator its always been. There's been less than 10 seconds of actual gameplay in the trailers for the game. The E3 impressions were mostly good and  a lot of people liked it. Of course, there were the people who didn't, but Shenmue has always been divisive. The point is the gameplay made a good impression on people.

In order for this game to be successful riding its intricacies was the safest best to selling to the most diverse audience Shenmue has ever had access to.

Instead, they decided to piss off an entire platform, one the game was definitely relying on for success. GG.
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I still can't believe this is real!
Post by: nachobro on July 02, 2019, 12:03:37 PM
We will not be getting Shenmue 4
we never were
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I still can't believe this is real!
Post by: Himu on July 02, 2019, 12:04:56 PM
Games like Life Is Strange and Animal Crossing are hardly niche; Animal Crossing is a massively successful multimillion selling market leader interior design game and Life Is Strange is a critically successful drama that made way more money than anyone writing the sub-Degrassi high script deserves because the market constantly craves for an influx of barely interactive "narrative games". These games have massive commercially viable hooks and have massive playerbases because of it.

Sell Life Is Strange to me ten years ago. That game would NOT be selling what it is now and that's a fact. Life Is Strange is definitely niche. It's a boring game - on purpose. Shenmue is also a boring game - on purpose. Ten years ago, boring games that involve the daily lives of teenagers were not a thing and adventure games backed by companies like Square Enix were, for all intents and purposes, dead.

Animal Crossing had an audience before, but New Leaf took it to a whole new level. It is definitely niche. Just because it's successful does not mean it's not niche. It has just managed to fit into that niche comfortably.

Either way, you ignored my other multiple examples.

Ys was a a total bomb before heading to Steam. I bought Ys III for psp and it was a complete bomb. Putting it on Steam invigorated the games sales. Now they're up to like, Ys IX? And a big part of that is Steam.

Valkyria Chronicles sold GANGBUSTERS when the game was released on Steam when it did only modest before. It's a strategy rpg. Strategy rpgs are niche.

A big part of the reason the Japanese games are so successful now is because of Steam. It has expanded their audience ten fold and has done extremely well for niche games.

Then there's games like Stardew Valley. A game like Stardew Valley/Harvest Moon is niche and that game has sold enough it could afford its own island by now.
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I still can't believe this is real!
Post by: Himu on July 02, 2019, 12:15:39 PM
Using Shenmue HD games as an example also doesn't work because they're 20 years old. Most gamers don't expect anything from something 20 years old. Also using Yakuza as a counter example doesn't work because unless you've been living under a rock, Yakuza games in America UNTIL RECENTLY had to be BEGGED to be released. Once again proving that today's gaming landscape is extremely fertile for niche products having surprise successes. And their popularity blew up even more on.....wow, it's that word I keep repeating...Steam.

Either way, I don't really care anymore. They've decided to go and fuck it up. I will be playing and hopefully enjoying III for what it is now that Deep Silver and Epic have decided to go and piss in everyone's tea.
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I still can't believe this is real!
Post by: Coffee Dog on July 02, 2019, 12:21:56 PM
Games like Life Is Strange and Animal Crossing are hardly niche; Animal Crossing is a massively successful multimillion selling market leader interior design game and Life Is Strange is a critically successful drama that made way more money than anyone writing the sub-Degrassi high script deserves because the market constantly craves for an influx of barely interactive "narrative games". These games have massive commercially viable hooks and have massive playerbases because of it.

Sell Life Is Strange to me ten years ago. That game would NOT be selling what it is now and that's a fact. Life Is Strange is definitely niche. It's a boring game - on purpose. Shenmue is also a boring game - on purpose. Ten years ago, boring games that involve the daily lives of teenagers were not a thing and adventure games backed by companies like Square Enix were, for all intents and purposes, dead.

Animal Crossing had an audience before, but New Leaf took it to a whole new level. It is definitely niche. Just because it's successful does not mean it's not niche. It has just managed to fit into that niche comfortably.

Either way, you ignored my other multiple examples.

Ys was a a total bomb before heading to Steam. I bought Ys III for psp and it was a complete bomb. Putting it on Steam invigorated the games sales. Now they're up to like, Ys IX? And a big part of that is Steam.

Valkyria Chronicles sold GANGBUSTERS when the game was released on Steam when it did only modest before. It's a strategy rpg. Strategy rpgs are niche.

A big part of the reason the Japanese games are so successful now is because of Steam. It has expanded their audience ten fold and has done extremely well for niche games.

Then there's games like Stardew Valley. A game like Stardew Valley/Harvest Moon is niche and that game has sold enough it could afford its own island by now.

I dont really know what the purpose to your labelling of "niche" is if there is a multimillion audience ravenously waiting to devour product. Candy Crush is niche by that definition to the point of rendering the term useless. I'm talking about products that are commercially less viable due to their lack of appeal.

Shenmue is a game whose every feature is at a glance done better in just about AAA game on the market. Where can I get better melee combat? Where can I get a breathtaking open world? Where can I get a plot that isnt just talking to ugly elderly chinese villagers? How about any other game out there?

You say that Shenmue is designed to be boring as fuck but throw life is strange in the same sentence like...life is strange is literally a game about teenagers getting in shouting matches at each other/authority figures and constant drama. Every episode ends on giant dramatic setpieces where characters freak out and big decisions have to be made! Its not a game where you just go to class every day doing boring bullshit. Just like papers please, a game where youre constantly making stressful decision while a timer ticks down judging your performance, or valhalla where every day youre given a cast of characters with unique stories, not just doing the mundanity of bartending. Not a single one of the games you listed is anywhere near as weird and niche as shenmue, theyre all stock standard VNs, RPGs, etc. Commercially successful genres that generally appeal to millions.

Shenmue's about chopping wood!
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Post by: Himu on July 02, 2019, 12:31:33 PM
Puzzle games are extremely popular and definitely not a niche genre. Tetris is one of the best selling games of all time.

Adventure games have been niche for generations, what Life Is Strange basically constitutes.

Shenmue can market itself as a smaller open-world. More people are hesitant to big, sprawling open worlds with checklists of things to do. Shenmue's bread and butter is a more intimate open-world. You can sell that to people.

And Shenmue is more than about chopping wood. It's a kung fu simulator. There are zero games besides Shenmue that have you feel like you're actually building up to becoming a true kung fu master. Oh, they'll do it in one game. Shenmue? Multiple. Shenmue is an epic. It is about more than chopping wood.

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life is strange is literally a game about teenagers getting in shouting matches at each other/authority figures and constant drama.

Yes, a game that goes into the lives of people is usually considered boring. It's not an action-game. It's not a zombie fest. It doesn't use a big license. Your sentence here also betrays yourself. Shenmue is about a boy on a quest for revenge to become a kung fu master to defeat his fathers killer. Which sounds more boring? Teenage shout matches or the epic kung fu story? Did you not just say that story-oriented games sell well now? :thinking Does Shenmue not fall into this category then? Shenmue II has far more action and adventure than Life Is Strange. Have you actually ever played Shenmue II? On the surface, Life is Strange is FAR more boring than Shenmue.

If you haven't noticed, most games are action games. It's why something like Phoenix Wright would be considered a boring game. It's a game that has zero action. It's about clicking on shit and providing evidence and talking to people. It's basically a point and click adventure game tied with a VN. But it did well because it worked to its own strengths. It's definitely not mainstream. But it's not like it's a horrific failure either.

Not a single one of the games you listed is anywhere near as weird and niche as shenmue, theyre all stock standard VNs, RPGs, etc. Commercially successful genres that generally appeal to millions.

A game like V-a11-halla is definitely weird. Stop lying to yourself to take an opportunity to shit on Shenmue and try to understand my point. It's a weird game.

And definitely not stock.

And yet it has carved a niche for itself and is pretty successful.

I wasn't focused on genre until this post. You clearly do not understand the history of the games, franchises, and genres I'm talking about.

You have to really, really try to convince yourself, very hard, or be completely ignorant of the history of jrpgs and adventure games to say that Life Is Strange, Va11halla, Ys, and Valkyria Chrocniles are not niche products. Just like how Fire Emblem is a niche product that somehow found success. So niche it was on its death bed. Like I said: niche games and genres have a lot of options these days, more than ever before. Surely there's room for a kung fu simulator epic.

(https://i.imgur.com/ejuTHOn.png)
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I still can't believe this is real!
Post by: nachobro on July 02, 2019, 04:26:57 PM
https://twitter.com/TimSweeneyEpic/status/1146103878540308481
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I still can't believe this is real!
Post by: Mr Gilhaney on July 02, 2019, 05:34:32 PM
 Only took them 3 games to begin doing that.

Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I still can't believe this is real!
Post by: Sho Nuff on July 02, 2019, 08:21:58 PM
Future Sho Nuff: Hello young Sho. I've come back to 2002 to tell you about Shenmue 3
Young Sho Nuff: OMG is it coming out next year
Future Sho: Actually it's going to ship like 17 years later
Young Sho: Oh my god no, I mean I'll wait, but won't I be married with kids by then?
Future Sho: LOL I wouldn't worry about that. I mean uh, maybe. Anyway it's going to be the Shenmu'iest and Ryo's getting out of the fucking cave
Young Sho: Hold on, will I have free choice of what digital marketplace it releases on?
Future Sho: Not really, but I thought you wanted Ryo to get out of that cave
Young Sho: FUCK YOU, GO BACK TO THE FUTURE, I'M NO LONGER INTERESTED
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I still can't believe this is real!
Post by: Himu on July 02, 2019, 08:32:07 PM
Future Sho Nuff: Hello young Sho. I've come back to 2002 to tell you about Shenmue 3
Young Sho Nuff: OMG is it coming out next year
Future Sho: Actually it's going to ship like 17 years later
Young Sho: Oh my god no, I mean I'll wait, but won't I be married with kids by then?
Future Sho: LOL I wouldn't worry about that. I mean uh, maybe. Anyway it's going to be the Shenmu'iest and Ryo's getting out of the fucking cave
Young Sho: Hold on, will I have free choice of what digital marketplace it releases on?
Future Sho: Not really, but I thought you wanted Ryo to get out of that cave
Young Sho: FUCK YOU, GO BACK TO THE FUTURE, I'M NO LONGER INTERESTED

most of the people who react like this aren't even shenmue fans. people think it was only shenmue fans who backed it when even tasty supported it on kickstarter and I know full on shenmue haters who have as well out of solidarity.

personally, while i'm mad about the fact i am not getting what i paid for for a full year, I'm getting the game on ps4 anyways so it's not the biggest of deals. thankfully I get it for steam eventually and won't have to buy a whole new copy and shit.
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I still can't believe this is real!
Post by: Tasty on July 02, 2019, 09:06:16 PM
Future Sho Nuff: Hello young Sho. I've come back to 2002 to tell you about Shenmue 3
Young Sho Nuff: OMG is it coming out next year
Future Sho: Actually it's going to ship like 17 years later
Young Sho: Oh my god no, I mean I'll wait, but won't I be married with kids by then?
Future Sho: LOL I wouldn't worry about that. I mean uh, maybe. Anyway it's going to be the Shenmu'iest and Ryo's getting out of the fucking cave
Young Sho: Hold on, will I have free choice of what digital marketplace it releases on?
Future Sho: Not really, but I thought you wanted Ryo to get out of that cave
Young Sho: FUCK YOU, GO BACK TO THE FUTURE, I'M NO LONGER INTERESTED

Baby Tasty: ...what the fuck is a "digital marketplace"? (And can I buy Pokemon cards there?)
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I still can't believe this is real!
Post by: Tasty on July 02, 2019, 09:07:43 PM
Yeah it's true I kicked in $100 and still haven't played a lick of the series, lmaaaaoooo

Hey Sho can I have your time machine? I could really use that money these days. :doge
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I still can't believe this is real!
Post by: Svejk on July 02, 2019, 09:56:48 PM
A shame this got pushed to November.  Def Stranding will take priority over this.   Waited 17 years, I can wait another month or two.  :yeshrug
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I still can't believe this is real!
Post by: chronovore on July 03, 2019, 01:02:11 AM
Yeah it's true I kicked in $100 and still haven't played a lick of the series, lmaaaaoooo

Hey Sho can I have your time machine? I could really use that money these days. :doge

Sho Nuff is saving his money for a joint visit to a whisky bar in Kyoto.
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I still can't believe this is real!
Post by: Kara on July 03, 2019, 04:59:44 AM
Future Sho Nuff: Hello young Sho. I've come back to 2002 to tell you about Shenmue 3
Young Sho Nuff: OMG is it coming out next year
Future Sho: Actually it's going to ship like 17 years later
Young Sho: Oh my god no, I mean I'll wait, but won't I be married with kids by then?
Future Sho: LOL I wouldn't worry about that. I mean uh, maybe. Anyway it's going to be the Shenmu'iest and Ryo's getting out of the fucking cave
Young Sho: Hold on, will I have free choice of what digital marketplace it releases on?
Future Sho: Not really, but I thought you wanted Ryo to get out of that cave
Young Sho: FUCK YOU, GO BACK TO THE FUTURE, I'M NO LONGER INTERESTED

Great post. Ryo is getting out of that damn cave. :punch
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I still can't believe this is real!
Post by: headwalk on July 03, 2019, 08:56:42 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/rG0PXsp.png)
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I still can't believe this is real!
Post by: nachobro on July 03, 2019, 09:25:43 AM
buying ps4 and getting a steam key for the kickstarter version might be the way i go as well. mainly i just want all the extra tchotchkes i paid for ASAP
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I still can't believe this is real!
Post by: Don Rumata on July 03, 2019, 09:02:24 PM
Future Sho Nuff: Hello young Sho. I've come back to 2002 to tell you about Shenmue 3
Young Sho Nuff: OMG is it coming out next year
Future Sho: Actually it's going to ship like 17 years later
Young Sho: Oh my god no, I mean I'll wait, but won't I be married with kids by then?
Future Sho: LOL I wouldn't worry about that. I mean uh, maybe. Anyway it's going to be the Shenmu'iest and Ryo's getting out of the fucking cave
Young Sho: Hold on, will I have free choice of what digital marketplace it releases on?
Future Sho: Not really, but I thought you wanted Ryo to get out of that cave
Young Sho: FUCK YOU, GO BACK TO THE FUTURE, I'M NO LONGER INTERESTED

Baby Tasty: ...what the fuck is a "digital marketplace"? (And can I buy Pokemon cards there?)
Only of Pokemon within the Galar region.
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I still can't believe this is real!
Post by: Tasty on July 04, 2019, 03:25:42 AM
Semi-ironically, Ruby and Sapphire would release that year, featuring the series' only true break in backwards comparability (even today) and restricting most Kanto Pokemon until FireRed/LeafGreen years later. :doge

Needless to say I wasn't a fan of those games either.
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I still can't believe this is real!
Post by: VomKriege on July 19, 2019, 06:43:31 AM
Pat and Woolie from Castle Super Beast (ex-Super Best Friends) touched on the latest Shenmue III PR trainwreck and it was pretty savage. "Nagoshi wanted to make a Shenmue-like one city block RPG in the crime world. And he did. 15 TIMES in the span of years that will separate Shenmue II and III."

:dead

And before Cindy knee drops my ass : Yakuza is not exactly Shenmue and I know a lot of fans are invested in the specific Shenmue story. But Yakuza scratches many of those Shenmue sweet spots for many a people. Also I only paraphrased that bit, that's not the whole of their discussion.

It's pretty sad how much good will they continue to squander even now (regardless of opinions on the Kickstarter's very intent, obviously I was already pretty sour from the word "go"). As always, some of the drama will be muted if the game turns out OK.
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I still can't believe this is real!
Post by: Himu on July 19, 2019, 10:33:19 AM
I just want the game to come out. Don’t care anymore. What a shitshow.
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I still can't believe this is real!
Post by: Kara on July 19, 2019, 12:27:21 PM
Knickerbockers with a gaming podcast I had to Google trying to come at Yu Suzuki-dono. :comeon
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I still can't believe this is real!
Post by: Himu on July 19, 2019, 12:51:51 PM
At this point, I view this game very low.

It was originally a kickstarter game and so far is dishonoring everything the kickstarter set out to do.

I gave over 100 dollars specifically for the pc demo for instance, and no pc demo announcement yet and the game comes out in months. It's ridiculous.

Game is a massive mine field of fuckery and I can't wait for it to all end.
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I still can't believe this is real!
Post by: VomKriege on July 19, 2019, 01:52:14 PM
I think it's sadly not too much of a surprise. There was an inherent tension IMHO between running a Kickstarter yet also securing beforehand a retailing deal (including physical copies). The latter implies a different scope for development. We'll have to wait a possible post mortem but I'm still of the mind it was too complex of a game to rely on crowdfunding alone, especially for an outfit like YSnet.
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I still can't believe this is real!
Post by: Himu on July 19, 2019, 01:55:52 PM
Games like Bloodstained did fine and honored their backers. Backers for other games get dlc. I've shelled out 200 + for this game and will still have to buy dlc. I will, but it's still preposterous. Incompetence is rife among YS Net and the entire projects handling of this matter.
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I still can't believe this is real!
Post by: Tasty on July 19, 2019, 02:33:50 PM
Creative types tend to be worse at managing timelines and business needs, news at 11
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Post by: Himu on July 19, 2019, 03:08:47 PM
I'm a creative type and still think this is stupid.
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I still can't believe this is real!
Post by: Tasty on July 19, 2019, 03:24:27 PM
I have low expectations of Kickstarters, and some would call me an idiot for not letting that deter me from proactively funding projects that interest me. (Like, in the slightest. When I evaluate a KS today it's the same as if I was evaluating one in 2011.)

From my viewpoint I give this game's KS overall a 5/10, dependent on the final game merely being finished and not buggy to the point of unplayability.
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I still can't believe this is real!
Post by: VomKriege on July 19, 2019, 03:41:25 PM
https://www.usgamer.net/articles/yu-suzuki-says-shenmue-iii-will-get-us-40-percent-through-ryos-story (https://www.usgamer.net/articles/yu-suzuki-says-shenmue-iii-will-get-us-40-percent-through-ryos-story)

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Yu Suzuki Says Shenmue 3 Will Get Us 40 Percent Through Ryo's Story

:goty
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I still can't believe this is real!
Post by: Himu on July 19, 2019, 04:17:02 PM
40% :lol

If Suzuki has any sense he’d try to end it with 4. Dude is off his rocker.
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I still can't believe this is real!
Post by: Kara on July 19, 2019, 05:10:38 PM
Yu da god trolling all of us :bow2 :bow2 :bow2
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I still can't believe this is real!
Post by: Don Rumata on July 19, 2019, 06:35:23 PM
Who cares about the ending itself? I'm cool with just getting some more Shenmue.
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I still can't believe this is real!
Post by: Kara on July 19, 2019, 07:32:36 PM
Ryo could walk out that fucking cave and fall into another one and I'd be fine. It's about having realistic goals in life. :hmph
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I still can't believe this is real!
Post by: Don Rumata on July 19, 2019, 08:01:33 PM
Ryo could walk out that fucking cave and fall into another one and I'd be fine. It's about having realistic goals in life. :hmph
I just want to explore some cool Chinese village, drink tea, play videogames within a videogame and... learn martial arts moves from homeless people.
Don't care much about dunking on Lan Di, at this point.

Especially after the appalling Shenmue Online cgi trailer, with hadokens and shit.
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I still can't believe this is real!
Post by: nachobro on July 26, 2019, 10:09:39 AM
Finally showing off backer rewards, probably in a bid to stop refunds

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/ysnet/shenmue-3/posts/2574575
Title: Re: Shenmue E3 thread of disappointment
Post by: Akala on July 26, 2019, 10:21:00 AM
:umad at Shenmue fans who think anything is going to happen

Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I still can't believe this is real!
Post by: Svejk on July 26, 2019, 11:48:16 AM
Finally showing off backer rewards, probably in a bid to stop refunds

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/ysnet/shenmue-3/posts/2574575
Those backer faces on those game boards...  :snoop
If this becomes a KS trend, I will never back a game again.  Fuck them and their ugly mugs.  GET OUT OF MY GAME.  :bolo
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I still can't believe this is real!
Post by: Himu on July 26, 2019, 11:57:30 AM
What's worse is you have some white dudes on boards in the fucking countryside of China.

Backer rewards look dope otherwise.
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I still can't believe this is real!
Post by: nachobro on July 26, 2019, 12:02:01 PM
Now that I gave away my PS4 I think I'm just gonna get a refund on this. Don't want to support EGS and don't see the point in waiting a year for a Steam key when it'll be cheaper by far when it launches there.
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I still can't believe this is real!
Post by: paprikastaude on July 26, 2019, 02:47:06 PM
kickstarter faces in games are aids. always.
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I still can't believe this is real!
Post by: Trent Dole on July 26, 2019, 03:53:14 PM
kickstarter faces in games are aids. always.
If you're playing on PC you'll probably be able to turn them into Kramer or whatever shortly after release.
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I still can't believe this is real!
Post by: VomKriege on July 26, 2019, 06:33:52 PM
Finally showing off backer rewards, probably in a bid to stop refunds

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/ysnet/shenmue-3/posts/2574575
Those backer faces on those game boards...  :snoop
If this becomes a KS trend, I will never back a game again.  Fuck them and their ugly mugs.  GET OUT OF MY GAME.  :bolo

Kickstarter backed Pit Fighter 2020 is gonna be rad.
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I still can't believe this is real!
Post by: Svejk on July 26, 2019, 11:00:45 PM
If you can punch or kick their faces as the crowd, then that's fine.
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I still can't believe this is real!
Post by: Trent Dole on August 15, 2019, 01:40:53 AM
https://gematsu.com/2019/08/shenmue-iii-pc-backer-trial-version-launches-in-second-half-of-september
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I still can't believe this is real!
Post by: Tasty on August 21, 2019, 09:17:21 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xz2Ik7fqoNE

Graphics actually not looking too rough anymore. :leon
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I still can't believe this is real!
Post by: NekoFever on August 21, 2019, 09:33:25 AM
Great trailer. I'm really feeling it now. It looks like Shenmue.
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I still can't believe this is real!
Post by: Himu on August 21, 2019, 12:53:43 PM
Ren :rejoice
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I still can't believe this is real!
Post by: bork on September 06, 2019, 10:09:41 AM
https://limitedrungames.com/collections/neo-frontpage/products/shenmue-iii-collectors-edition

(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0912/7444/products/S3_Beautyshot_Final_PS4_with_DCcases_OSleeve.png?v=1567712200)

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This item has not been released. It will be available on Monday, September 9th, 2019 at 12 PM Eastern Time.

Shenmue III on physical disc for the PlayStation 4. This Collector's Edition is limited to just 5,000 copies produced. Region Free.

The Shenmue III Collector's Edition includes:

    Shenmue III physical game for the PlayStation 4
    Premium foil stamped box
    Premium high-gloss individually numbered foil embossed slipcover
    Replica Phoenix/Dragon mirror
    Iron-on patches featuring designs from the Shenmue series
    Shoji door styled light box/desk lamp
    A set of Shenmue stickers
    Commemorative Sega Dreamcast case styled after the original Shenmue Dreamcast case
    Shenmue III Limited Run Games trading card

This item is expected to ship on or slightly before the game's official release date of November 19th, 2019. Please note that if you order anything alongside this item, nothing will ship until everything in your order is ready to ship.
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I still can't believe this is real!
Post by: nachobro on September 06, 2019, 10:24:05 AM
refund info came out. 2 weeks to apply for one starting mid-sept, will take up to 3 months to get it. no more option to get a steam key/physical version in a year, only to change to ps4 or get a refund.
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I still can't believe this is real!
Post by: Himu on September 06, 2019, 10:27:36 AM
refund info came out. 2 weeks to apply for one starting mid-sept, will take up to 3 months to get it. no more option to get a steam key/physical version in a year, only to change to ps4 or get a refund.

WHAT

I want the steam version not a refund. Am I shit out of luck
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I still can't believe this is real!
Post by: nachobro on September 06, 2019, 10:39:12 AM
yep. if you want the steam version you gotta just hold that L for a year.

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/ysnet/shenmue-3/posts/2602855?ref=ksr_email_backer_project_update_registered_users
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I still can't believe this is real!
Post by: nachobro on September 19, 2019, 11:02:20 PM
Refund emails go out tomorrow, trial comes later this month. Refunds are via Paypal. If you already have a link to the survey you can request a refund now.
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/ysnet/shenmue-3/posts/2611201

Also they are now saying Steam keys are a maybe? But also you might never get one so good luck. :neogaf

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Please note the following revision concerning PC option availability.

In the previous Update On PC Version Rewards, the following option for the PC (Epic Games Store) version was announced:

"If selecting either the PC Physical or PC Digital version, an option to also receive a Steam key one year later will be available."

As negotiations with Valve are ongoing, we are not able to make a firm commitment at this point concerning the availability of the Steam keys.

Requests for Steam keys will be accepted through the survey, however, there is the possibility that Steam keys will ultimately not be distributed depending on negotiations with Valve. An announcement will be posted in the updates with the outcome of the negotiations.

We apologize for this revision to the previously stated PC option.
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I still can't believe this is real!
Post by: Himu on September 19, 2019, 11:04:36 PM
I’m done with Shenmue after III hopefully. I can’t take much more. Hate the fanbase now hate the creators.
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I still can't believe this is real!
Post by: Himu on September 20, 2019, 04:30:23 AM
Just got the email. Requested refund for the steam copy I gave them money for. Only have PS4 version backed now. Will not be buying extra copies of the game to support. I am no longer supporting Shenmue with my money unless trust has been rebuilt.
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I still can't believe this is real!
Post by: Coax on September 20, 2019, 05:42:12 AM
Negotiations with Valve? There's a plethora of low-effort games published on Steam that have been granted keys in the past yet here a fairly high profile game can't get keys produced? :wtf
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I still can't believe this is real!
Post by: Great Rumbler on September 20, 2019, 08:44:27 AM
It's definitely not a question of whether they can get on Steam or not, there's barely any barrier of entry anymore. Could be they're trying to get some kind of concessions or special treatment out of Valve
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I still can't believe this is real!
Post by: nachobro on September 20, 2019, 10:47:50 AM
Or they aren't going to Steam at all
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I still can't believe this is real!
Post by: thisismyusername on September 20, 2019, 04:52:32 PM
Or they aren't going to Steam at all

Cool, let's me pirate with no guilt.  :D
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I still can't believe this is real!
Post by: Coffee Dog on September 20, 2019, 07:28:32 PM
Pirate Shenmue 3 because it doesn't have cloud save brehs  :lol
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I still can't believe this is real!
Post by: Don Rumata on September 22, 2019, 05:04:41 AM
https://limitedrungames.com/collections/neo-frontpage/products/shenmue-iii-collectors-edition

(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0912/7444/products/S3_Beautyshot_Final_PS4_with_DCcases_OSleeve.png?v=1567712200)

Quote
This item has not been released. It will be available on Monday, September 9th, 2019 at 12 PM Eastern Time.

Shenmue III on physical disc for the PlayStation 4. This Collector's Edition is limited to just 5,000 copies produced. Region Free.

The Shenmue III Collector's Edition includes:

    Shenmue III physical game for the PlayStation 4
    Premium foil stamped box
    Premium high-gloss individually numbered foil embossed slipcover
    Replica Phoenix/Dragon mirror
    Iron-on patches featuring designs from the Shenmue series
    Shoji door styled light box/desk lamp
    A set of Shenmue stickers
    Commemorative Sega Dreamcast case styled after the original Shenmue Dreamcast case
    Shenmue III Limited Run Games trading card

This item is expected to ship on or slightly before the game's official release date of November 19th, 2019. Please note that if you order anything alongside this item, nothing will ship until everything in your order is ready to ship.
Not that i'd like any of that pointless crap, but having given 100$+ to the Kickstarter, for a regular ps4 copy, i do feel like a moron now, without even the preorder bonuses.
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I still can't believe this is real!
Post by: bork on September 22, 2019, 02:06:50 PM
Not that i'd like any of that pointless crap, but having given 100$+ to the Kickstarter, for a regular ps4 copy, i do feel like a moron now, without even the preorder bonuses.

I rarely use Kickstarter or Indiegogo and the like- It generally never feels like it's worth it.  Only got burned from one project (lost like $15 so not too bad compared to some of the nightmares I've read about) and made the mistake of backing hardware 7-8 years ago- they delivered, but it took forever and was already on sale at shops when I got it. 

Even with companies I trust, like the GPD folks, I still wouldn't back anything because it seems like backers are the guinea pigs and either get the shittier units first and sellers get the improved models and/or shops get the units for sale before the backers do.
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I still can't believe this is real!
Post by: thisismyusername on September 22, 2019, 03:10:09 PM
Pirate Shenmue 3 because it doesn't have butt save brehs  :lol

Who said anything about cloud saves? I'm talking if Shenmue skips Steam, they won't take my money.
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I still can't believe this is real!
Post by: Coffee Dog on September 23, 2019, 08:34:36 AM
Pirate Shenmue 3 because it doesn't have butt save brehs  :lol

Who said anything about cloud saves? I'm talking if Shenmue skips Steam, they won't take my money.

cloud saves are the only thing Steam offers that could affect your enjoyment of the game, and I like to give people the benefit of the doubt and assume that they are spitting in the eye of devs whose game they've been waiting on for decades over something that actually has an impact on the product, rather than brand loyalty to PC gaming's Wal-Mart.  :lol

Shenmue 1 and 2 didn't launch on Steam either, and they seemed to have turned out well enough. If the game doesn't deserve your money because of digital storefront politics your priorities seem to be more about jerking yourself off than playing the game you want. The fuck you gonna do, play all the nonexistent Shenmue alternatives on the market? That's why you all gave Suzuki your interest free loans in the first place.

Either you want the game or you don't, and "the kickstarter promised a different storefront" is woefully flimsy in a world where Shovel Knight is nearly 6 years old and still has yet to implement a stretch goal campaign and game mode, Tim Schaefer's adventure game got sliced in half, and god knows how much vaporware. Shit happens when you make games, "our publisher put the game on a different storefront" is not one that has a material impact on the quality of the product. It only impacts your feelings.
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I still can't believe this is real!
Post by: nachobro on September 23, 2019, 09:04:50 AM
i was promised a physical edition and am not getting it. kickstarter backers are being shafted with the various editions releasing and missing out on pre-order bonuses. backers were promised to be first to lay hands on the game with the pc demo, and now even steam keys are up in air. damn near every pre-release promise was broken so i feel no guilt in getting all of my money back.

the devs and the pub can get fucked at this point. just because other devs also fucked up doesn't mean i have to take it from these idiots too. at this point i'm turned off enough by the game and series that i've got zero interest anymore. i guess i'll just take it as a lesson to never back one of these idiotic things again (even though I backed psychonauts 2, but only at the basic "pay $25 to get the game" level).

no plans to pirate the game, maybe i'll feel different in a year when i can get the GOTY version for $150 less than i backed for but either way i've got about 500 other games to play between now and then anyway.
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I still can't believe this is real!
Post by: Occam on September 23, 2019, 10:36:18 AM
Backers almost always seem to be the last people to get the game.
It's so annoying when you receive your download code only AFTER the game's official launch.
Speaking of disappointing kickstarter campaigns, the physical rewards for Bloodstained still haven't shipped, and I also still haven't received a physical copy of La-Mulana 2 (which launched ages ago).
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I still can't believe this is real!
Post by: Don Rumata on September 23, 2019, 12:59:37 PM
Not that i'd like any of that pointless crap, but having given 100$+ to the Kickstarter, for a regular ps4 copy, i do feel like a moron now, without even the preorder bonuses.

I rarely use Kickstarter or Indiegogo and the like- It generally never feels like it's worth it.  Only got burned from one project (lost like $15 so not too bad compared to some of the nightmares I've read about) and made the mistake of backing hardware 7-8 years ago- they delivered, but it took forever and was already on sale at shops when I got it. 

Even with companies I trust, like the GPD folks, I still wouldn't back anything because it seems like backers are the guinea pigs and either get the shittier units first and sellers get the improved models and/or shops get the units for sale before the backers do.
I got caught in the hype of Shenmue coming back but lesson learned, i'm done with videogame Kickstarters, they're just too unreliable.

I've pledged to several other non-gaming kickstarters though, and they all delivered just fine (mostly artbooks), with a slight delay at most.
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I still can't believe this is real!
Post by: thisismyusername on September 27, 2019, 08:27:22 AM
Shenmue 1 and 2 didn't launch on Steam either, and they seemed to have turned out well enough.

This is a false equivalence. No shit Shenmue 1+2 didn't launch on Steam in 2000 because Steam wasn't available then. *gasp* Wonderful logic there, dude.

But the thing is: Shenmue 1+2 did eventually launch on Steam... via a port... when Shenmue 3 was announced. But anyway, I'm not sure where you're going with this stupid bit of logic, because you can think I'm "jerking myself off" because I flat-refuse to use a piece of Chinese Spyware that is a leaking sieve of security (make an account? Suddenly get 50+ emails about someone trying to change the password even with their shitty "2Factor" on) and don't trust them with a credit card because of that.

But do go off, king, about how me and others are "being irrational" because "just another store-front" is making a title exclusive.

I'll buy Shenmue 3 if it comes to Steam, if it doesn't: I'll pirate. I'm not sure what is so controversial about a statement like this that you feel the need to be so triggered by it, but continue to feel you "won" or whatever, bro.

(Also this is a more engaging conversation than Rah being triggered, I should probably book-mark this for the next time he spergs out)

And before I forget:

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cloud saves are the only thing Steam offers that could affect your enjoyment of the game,

Hardly. I couldn't give a shit about cloud saves. They're a "nice to have, but not needed" feature. Because there's things like "backing up the save manually" that you can do on PC.

For me, I do not trust Epic's security with my financial or account information. So thereby, I flat-out refuse to use their store and buy games "exclusive" to it. You can think that's not the reason, but if you honestly think that cloud saves are the only reason I would pirate Shenmue 3 if it's Epic Exclusive for more than a year: You're just as bad as Rah at missing the point.
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I still can't believe this is real!
Post by: nachobro on September 27, 2019, 08:37:04 AM
got my refund already, that was quick. some people are complaining cause epic/ys net didn't factor paypal fees into the refund amounts, but i'm pretty sure i got more back than i pledged so i'm fine with that.

i believe i still got an egs code for the demo so if anyone wants it, pm me.
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I still can't believe this is real!
Post by: thisismyusername on September 27, 2019, 08:40:27 AM
You do if 4chan is anything to go buy. They'll process the refund but still give you a code.
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I still can't believe this is real!
Post by: Sho Nuff on October 03, 2019, 02:30:57 AM
What do you need to do to get the demo? I'm a backer but haven't gotten anything.
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I still can't believe this is real!
Post by: Don Rumata on October 03, 2019, 06:10:07 AM
I'm also a backer (a 100 fucking €) and didn't get shit.  >:(
I think it's because i selected a PS4 copy, since i didn't trust them to do a PC port.
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I still can't believe this is real!
Post by: nachobro on October 03, 2019, 08:55:53 AM
I did end up getting a demo code if either of you want it, I guess it only went to PC backers. Requires PC and EGS of course.
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I still can't believe this is real!
Post by: Don Rumata on October 03, 2019, 09:35:39 AM
I'll let Sho Nuff go first if he wants it.
I'm cool waiting for the full game anyway.

I just think they've handled this whole campaign kind of weird, to be honest.
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I still can't believe this is real!
Post by: Svejk on October 03, 2019, 10:31:11 AM
With so many choice nugz coming in the next 4-5 months, I don't know when I'll even get a chance to play S3.  :doge  That being said, I don't want this game to be any longer than 10 hours plz.
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I still can't believe this is real!
Post by: Sho Nuff on October 03, 2019, 01:12:41 PM
If it hasn't been claimed I'd love to play this sucker over the weekend!
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I still can't believe this is real!
Post by: nachobro on October 03, 2019, 01:16:26 PM
sent it via pm, enjoy! :D
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I still can't believe this is real!
Post by: Sho Nuff on October 03, 2019, 09:10:01 PM
ME AND RYO ARE GOING ON AN ADVENTURE, RIGHT NOW
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I still can't believe this is real!
Post by: paprikastaude on October 04, 2019, 01:59:04 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGhIyhUyEo8
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I still can't believe this is real!
Post by: Don Rumata on October 04, 2019, 04:07:18 PM
ME AND RYO ARE GOING ON AN ADVENTURE, RIGHT NOW
How is the combat?
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I still can't believe this is real!
Post by: Sho Nuff on October 04, 2019, 09:53:03 PM
All right, so, this is pretty much okay. It feels like Shenmue proper, and although there's not a lot of deep meaningful stuff to do in the demo itself, I think they did a really good job recreating the feel of what was one of the most expensive games of all time with a budget that is...not that.

Didn't play a lot of combat but it seemed....servicable!? Gotta give it another run.
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I still can't believe this is real!
Post by: Svejk on October 14, 2019, 02:05:47 PM
Wait, ... this is showing as $59.99 pre-order on PSN?  Thought this was a $30-$40 tier game.   ???
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I still can't believe this is real!
Post by: Coffee Dog on October 15, 2019, 01:40:57 AM
No, it's just ugly.
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I still can't believe this is real!
Post by: Svejk on November 01, 2019, 05:32:15 PM
Been watching the game movies on youtubez to refresh my memory and holy crap... S2 is so damn broad and amazing!  :lawd  I only remember bits and pieces back then. (Modded DC with dat VGA box!)  Needless to say, if Yu keeps up this momentum into S3, this will be something special. 
Hype refortified.
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I still can't believe this is real!
Post by: Chooky on November 01, 2019, 06:54:55 PM
shenmue 2 is so underappreciated even tho it does what 1 wanted to do a million times better. the game was absolutely massive in scope for its time and it's fucking wild to explore each area. makes 1 look like a tiny little opening area.
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I still can't believe this is real!
Post by: Joe Molotov on November 07, 2019, 03:46:07 PM
Game is gonna be $35 on Black Friday at Best Buy, talk about la bomba. :neogaf
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I still can't believe this is real!
Post by: Pissy F Benny on November 07, 2019, 05:52:18 PM
When do reviews drop for this? There’s gonna be some catch like it being 4 hours long isn’t there.
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I still can't believe this is real!
Post by: Don Rumata on November 07, 2019, 06:55:14 PM
Are they shipping these out already to backers? 'Cause i still got no email about it.
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I still can't believe this is real!
Post by: Svejk on November 07, 2019, 07:11:16 PM
I paid $30 as a backer and getting a digital copy.   :idont. Was this originally suppose to be a $50-$60 game?

I read Yu mentioned a 10-20 hour adventure, iirc.  Sounds fine to me. 
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I still can't believe this is real!
Post by: nachobro on November 07, 2019, 09:39:37 PM
it'll be $60 on release but best buy is selling it for $35? first time i've seen a game with that big of a discount announced before release. :lol
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I still can't believe this is real!
Post by: chronovore on November 08, 2019, 11:51:44 PM
All right, so, this is pretty much okay. It feels like Shenmue proper, and although there's not a lot of deep meaningful stuff to do in the demo itself, I think they did a really good job recreating the feel of what was one of the most expensive games of all time with a budget that is...not that.

Didn't play a lot of combat but it seemed....servicable!? Gotta give it another run.

Did your opinion of it end up changing much after your 2nd run?
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I still can't believe this is real!
Post by: bork on November 12, 2019, 05:01:56 PM
https://twitter.com/LimitedRunJosh/status/1194312240704491521
That Dreamcast case reminding of the good ol' days
 :tocry
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I still can't believe this is real!
Post by: TVC15 on November 12, 2019, 08:51:49 PM
I really hope this is good for Cindi’s sake.
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I still can't believe this is real!
Post by: Yeti on November 13, 2019, 09:25:20 AM
I think Cindi soured on it because of how it went Epic game store exclusive.
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I still can't believe this is real!
Post by: Coffee Dog on November 13, 2019, 10:52:34 AM
I haven't heard anything but good things, though it seems like only Shenmue diehards are the only people interested in the actual game anymore rather than storefront warzzz
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I still can't believe this is real!
Post by: Himu on November 13, 2019, 11:04:34 AM
I think Cindi soured on it because of how it went Epic game store exclusive.

It's more than that. I HATE Shenmue fans. Not only have I soured on the developers but also the fanbase. I know these don't matter in the grand scheme but they were all I had while waiting ten plus years. I defended Shenmue for years. I wrote articles with thousands of views on why Shenmue III is worth being excited about. I streamed the games for the dojo. I spread and advertised that site as much as I could. I have been kicked out of the Shenmue community for being too negative and skeptical. They banned me for that very reason and then registered a fake user, pretended they were me, because they know it'd look bad of you just banned someone who has been a part of the community for OVER TEN YEARS simply because they fairly criticized the site owner.

The developers? Snakes.

The fans? Also snakes.

I have tried for months to get excited again. I was going to buy 5-6 copies.

Now I no longer care, have cancelled multiple copies, and just want this to all end so Shenmue can die forever.
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I still can't believe this is real!
Post by: Svejk on November 13, 2019, 11:19:15 AM
 :holeup  Damn... ain't that some shit.  Sorry to hear that.
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I still can't believe this is real!
Post by: thisismyusername on November 13, 2019, 11:36:55 AM
Calm down, son daughter, it's only a drawing fan-forum.
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I still can't believe this is real!
Post by: Himu on November 13, 2019, 11:48:34 AM
That doesn't change shit.

I know it's just a fan forum and I said in the goddamn post none of it should matter but it does and I'm just sick of Shenmue. Well maybe if you get called a fake fan enough times because you're not a blind fan taco and combined with a scandal that rips players off you might stop giving a shit about your favorite game too.

Fuck off.
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I still can't believe this is real!
Post by: TVC15 on November 13, 2019, 01:06:58 PM
Cindi, do you know what this means? You souring on Shenmue shortly before the release of its long-awaited third entry could mean only one thing... you must become the real Lan Di. The Shenmue fanbase has stolen your personal “Dragon Mirror” when you should be the one that gets to appreciate it.

Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I still can't believe this is real!
Post by: Svejk on November 13, 2019, 01:28:00 PM
Not only did I get an email for the launch trailer, but 14 emails of the launch trailer.  WTF  :lol  :doge

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yu-wfcEKpXk

EDIT:  Just got 2 more emails!  Should I be concerned?
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I still can't believe this is real!
Post by: TVC15 on November 13, 2019, 02:05:05 PM
That’s how Lan Di gets your dads in the age of data caps.
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I still can't believe this is real!
Post by: Himu on November 13, 2019, 03:19:54 PM
Not only did I get an email for the launch trailer, but 14 emails of the launch trailer.  WTF  :lol  :doge

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yu-wfcEKpXk

EDIT:  Just got 2 more emails!  Should I be concerned?

Launch trailer and still no gameplay.

W
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Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I still can't believe this is real!
Post by: Tasty on November 13, 2019, 04:08:53 PM
Shenmue... gameplay? :confused
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I still can't believe this is real!
Post by: TVC15 on November 13, 2019, 04:16:53 PM
Is this on PC? If it makes you feel better, Cindi, if this runs acceptably I’ll suffer through it just so I can loudly shit on it in here. I legitimately hate these games, so I’d hate this one even if it were a “good” Shenmue game. It would make you smiiiiiiiiiiiiile. I’m almost guaranteed to hate this even more than Death Stranding, and I promise you that I will play S3 until its sloppy, disappointing finale.
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I still can't believe this is real!
Post by: thisismyusername on November 13, 2019, 04:30:27 PM
That doesn't change shit.

I know it's just a fan forum and I said in the goddamn post none of it should matter but it does and I'm just sick of Shenmue. Well maybe if you get called a fake fan enough times because you're not a blind fan taco and combined with a scandal that rips players off you might stop giving a shit about your favorite game too.

Fuck off.

Hon, my snark is sound: You're freaking out over a fan forum because you spent 10 years there. You're letting it sour your love for a series because of off-game drama. Maybe... calm down and realize that them treating you like shit is probably a good thing in the sense that you NOW don't have to deal with that drama if they find this third entry as bad as you think it is?

Think of it this way: If you got them SEETHING so fucking hard that they're making fake accounts to try to make you say different/slander you, you know you've won. Laugh about it, and forget them.
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I still can't believe this is real!
Post by: TVC15 on November 13, 2019, 04:45:45 PM
Don’t be like me, Cindi. Don’t let other people get to you and change you.

Now please tell me I’m right and that me buying this will make you happy so I can justify buying another terrible video game that I’ll only play for two hours. Make it snappy please; work is probably expecting me to try to accomplish something today.
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I still can't believe this is real!
Post by: Coffee Dog on November 13, 2019, 04:58:46 PM
Not only did I get an email for the launch trailer, but 14 emails of the launch trailer.  WTF  :lol  :doge

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yu-wfcEKpXk

EDIT:  Just got 2 more emails!  Should I be concerned?

Launch trailer and still no gameplay.

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Backers have had the demo for a month. :lol We've had hours and hours of gameplay for ages.
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I still can't believe this is real!
Post by: thisismyusername on November 13, 2019, 05:00:30 PM
Sure, but Himu's point is more: This is for non-backers. You still haven't shown gameplay to non-backers through official channels. That's pretty... worrying... dude.
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I still can't believe this is real!
Post by: Chooky on November 13, 2019, 05:07:38 PM
i mean, it's shenmue. gameplay is gonna be walking and talking with a handful of virtua fighter fights and some qtes. as far as i know they aren't shaking up the formula.
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I still can't believe this is real!
Post by: Coffee Dog on November 13, 2019, 05:07:42 PM
Sure, but Himu's point is more: This is for non-backers. You still haven't shown gameplay to non-backers through official channels. That's pretty... worrying... dude.

"Worrying". About what? What exactly is worrying? The status of the game? Here's an hour and a half, just from a search of "Shenmue 3 gameplay".
https://youtu.be/0cCVmneDjDA (https://youtu.be/0cCVmneDjDA)

Looks like Shenmue.

The only thing "worrying" is the level of bitch eating crackers shit over their PR, all because of storefront warzzzzz.
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I still can't believe this is real!
Post by: TVC15 on November 13, 2019, 05:11:28 PM
Hopefully Shenmue 3 is successful so they can at least hire some junior high kids or something to do the character models for Shenmue 4. There’s dire stuff in that video.
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I still can't believe this is real!
Post by: Pissy F Benny on November 13, 2019, 05:15:09 PM
Sure, but Himu's point is more: This is for non-backers. You still haven't shown gameplay to non-backers through official channels. That's pretty... worrying... dude.

"Worrying". About what? What exactly is worrying? The status of the game? Here's an hour and a half, just from a search of "Shenmue 3 gameplay".
https://youtu.be/0cCVmneDjDA (https://youtu.be/0cCVmneDjDA)

Looks like Shenmue.

The only thing "worrying" is the level of bitch eating crackers shit over their PR, all because of storefront warzzzzz.

I really hope that’s not the real start menu in the final game cuz it some serious struggle shit. I’d be legit mad if I paid cash money and was greeted with that.
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I still can't believe this is real!
Post by: thisismyusername on November 13, 2019, 05:18:44 PM
Sure, but Himu's point is more: This is for non-backers. You still haven't shown gameplay to non-backers through official channels. That's pretty... worrying... dude.

"Worrying". About what? What exactly is worrying? The status of the game? Here's an hour and a half, just from a search of "Shenmue 3 gameplay".
https://youtu.be/0cCVmneDjDA (https://youtu.be/0cCVmneDjDA)

Looks like Shenmue.

The only thing "worrying" is the level of bitch eating crackers shit over their PR, all because of storefront warzzzzz.

Their job is to sell the game to non-backers. It's "worrying" because they're failing at that.

How do you... not know... business 101? They already have backers money, they don't need to show gameplay to those folks. But they do need to show gameplay to the folks that haven't backed and may be interested in their product. Not showing gameplay this close to launch is pretty worrying.

"Oh, just look up these third part--"

No, third party gamers shouldn't be doing Deep Silvers advertising job for them. Try again.
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I still can't believe this is real!
Post by: Coffee Dog on November 13, 2019, 05:21:05 PM
Sure, but Himu's point is more: This is for non-backers. You still haven't shown gameplay to non-backers through official channels. That's pretty... worrying... dude.

"Worrying". About what? What exactly is worrying? The status of the game? Here's an hour and a half, just from a search of "Shenmue 3 gameplay".
https://youtu.be/0cCVmneDjDA (https://youtu.be/0cCVmneDjDA)

Looks like Shenmue.

The only thing "worrying" is the level of bitch eating crackers shit over their PR, all because of storefront warzzzzz.

Their job is to sell the game to non-backers. It's "worrying" because they're failing at that.

How do you... not know... business 101? They already have backers money, they don't need to show gameplay to those folks. But they do need to show gameplay to the folks that haven't backed and may be interested in their product. Not showing gameplay this close to launch is pretty worrying.

"Oh, just look up these third part--"

No, third party gamers shouldn't be doing Deep Silvers advertising job for them. Try again.

You know timu, since the press didn't steal that copy of the game, I'm pretty sure that Deep Silver is doing their advertising job.

"NO ONLY TRAILERS FROM THE OFFICIAL CHANNEL COUNT AS ADVERTISING"

like what the fuck is that  :lol

Edit: and dammit, i actually bothered to check their official channel, where there's 3 fucking videos of gameplay uploaded in the past few weeks.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d98TKaE63DI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d98TKaE63DI)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oWTYHejeHp0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oWTYHejeHp0)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WNI0hujRW5c (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WNI0hujRW5c)

woah it's almost like you have an axe to grind or something
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I still can't believe this is real!
Post by: Don Rumata on November 13, 2019, 05:24:41 PM
I think Cindi soured on it because of how it went Epic game store exclusive.

It's more than that. I HATE Shenmue fans. Not only have I soured on the developers but also the fanbase. I know these don't matter in the grand scheme but they were all I had while waiting ten plus years. I defended Shenmue for years. I wrote articles with thousands of views on why Shenmue III is worth being excited about. I streamed the games for the dojo. I spread and advertised that site as much as I could. I have been kicked out of the Shenmue community for being too negative and skeptical. They banned me for that very reason and then registered a fake user, pretended they were me, because they know it'd look bad of you just banned someone who has been a part of the community for OVER TEN YEARS simply because they fairly criticized the site owner.

The developers? Snakes.

The fans? Also snakes.

I have tried for months to get excited again. I was going to buy 5-6 copies.

Now I no longer care, have cancelled multiple copies, and just want this to all end so Shenmue can die forever.
Shenmue is already dead, has been for years.
This 3rd one will do like the JSR remaster and just remind people how dated the series is and how little they actually care, beyond the meme itself.

I say this as a fan, since i consider Shenmue 1, one of the greatest achievements in the gaming space.
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I still can't believe this is real!
Post by: Coffee Dog on November 13, 2019, 05:31:00 PM
I think Cindi soured on it because of how it went Epic game store exclusive.

It's more than that. I HATE Shenmue fans. Not only have I soured on the developers but also the fanbase. I know these don't matter in the grand scheme but they were all I had while waiting ten plus years. I defended Shenmue for years. I wrote articles with thousands of views on why Shenmue III is worth being excited about. I streamed the games for the dojo. I spread and advertised that site as much as I could. I have been kicked out of the Shenmue community for being too negative and skeptical. They banned me for that very reason and then registered a fake user, pretended they were me, because they know it'd look bad of you just banned someone who has been a part of the community for OVER TEN YEARS simply because they fairly criticized the site owner.

The developers? Snakes.

The fans? Also snakes.

I have tried for months to get excited again. I was going to buy 5-6 copies.

Now I no longer care, have cancelled multiple copies, and just want this to all end so Shenmue can die forever.
Shenmue is already dead, has been for years.
This 3rd one will do like the JSR remaster and just remind people how dated the series is and how little they actually care, beyond the meme itself.

I say this as a fan, since i consider Shenmue 1, one of the greatest achievements in the gaming space.

Yeah, I'm a newcomer to the Shenmue series having only played the first a couple months ago (playing 2 now), but if this thing didn't have the Epic Store fiasco hanging over its head it was going to have a car crash reception waiting for it when it got into everyone's hands. The game is slow, it's mundane, and in shenmue 3 it's frequently fucking ugly. The only way the series is going to continue after this is if they have a plan to take what they've established here and churn out a Shenmue 4 before they burn through their meager profits, but i'm not optimistic.
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I still can't believe this is real!
Post by: Himu on November 13, 2019, 05:33:42 PM
lmao

"backers have had a demo"

You sound like the shenmue fan whores I've debated online for a goddamn year plus.

In order to sell Shenmue to the masses you have to explain WHAT IT IS. It's the type of game where you have to sell the conceit. It's like Nintendo advertising Animal Crossing and making it all about I don't know, story or something, when Animal Crossing is relaxing fun customization time. They have failed, on every level, to express the appeal of Shenmue because they're dumb shits. And this is the LAUNCH TRAILER and they have NOTHING TO SHOW after 4 goddamn years.

The game is out this month and we HAVE NO IDEA WHAT YOU CAN YOU DO IN IT.

By contrast.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_3YNL0OWio0
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I still can't believe this is real!
Post by: Himu on November 13, 2019, 05:35:07 PM
Meanwhile, I AM GOING TO SELL A STORY-BASED GAME THAT HASN'T HAD A NEW ENTRY SINCE 2001 BY PROMOTING THE STORY, WHICH NEW PEOPLE DON'T KNOW THE FUCK ABOUT rather than promote a unique, niche product for what it is.

Fuck Shenmue, fuck Yu Suzuki, and fuck Deep Silver.
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I still can't believe this is real!
Post by: Himu on November 13, 2019, 05:38:52 PM
Another counter example.

TELL PEOPLE ABOUT THE GAME.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNF5olx8Pi4

Why should any one that hasn't played 1 or 2 be excited for 3 if they don't know the story? Fuck, II is my favorite game of all time and I'm not excited. What is there to do in it? Why should I CARE?
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I still can't believe this is real!
Post by: nachobro on November 13, 2019, 05:42:49 PM
pretty much every pre-release promise they made was a lie so the devs and the pr can both eat dicks. glad i got my dough back.
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I still can't believe this is real!
Post by: Himu on November 13, 2019, 05:47:02 PM
pretty much every pre-release promise they made was a lie so the devs and the pr can both eat dicks. glad i got my dough back.

Good. Fuck them.
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I still can't believe this is real!
Post by: nachobro on November 13, 2019, 05:47:44 PM
it being dropped to bomba prices before it's even out still makes me laugh :lol
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I still can't believe this is real!
Post by: Himu on November 13, 2019, 05:48:18 PM
Is this on PC? If it makes you feel better, Cindi, if this runs acceptably I’ll suffer through it just so I can loudly shit on it in here. I legitimately hate these games, so I’d hate this one even if it were a “good” Shenmue game. It would make you smiiiiiiiiiiiiile. I’m almost guaranteed to hate this even more than Death Stranding, and I promise you that I will play S3 until its sloppy, disappointing finale.

Please do this.
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I still can't believe this is real!
Post by: Coffee Dog on November 13, 2019, 05:50:27 PM
I just..don't understand. Here is a link to a trailer from a couple months ago. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=97O-5xuLkJs (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=97O-5xuLkJs)

It shows combat, minigames, talking to old people. That IS what the game is. It's almost like people didn't make a big deal out of these trailers because don't actually give a shit about the gameplay, Cindi. Like the game has been pretty fucking obvious about what it contains and it isn't resonating with people

pretty much every pre-release promise they made was a lie so the devs and the pr can both eat dicks. glad i got my dough back.

Except for the part where they made shenmue 3 and it looks like a good sequel

But I understand if you gave them that interest free loan for reasons completely unrelated to that.
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I still can't believe this is real!
Post by: team filler on November 13, 2019, 05:51:05 PM
Is this on PC? If it makes you feel better, Cindi, if this runs acceptably I’ll suffer through it just so I can loudly shit on it in here. I legitimately hate these games, so I’d hate this one even if it were a “good” Shenmue game. It would make you smiiiiiiiiiiiiile. I’m almost guaranteed to hate this even more than Death Stranding, and I promise you that I will play S3 until its sloppy, disappointing finale.
what's your twitch, pomp daddy? I wanna watch you play vidya, long play style  :esports
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I still can't believe this is real!
Post by: nachobro on November 13, 2019, 05:52:07 PM
i gave money to them to play the game on steam. they aren't letting me do that and i have no other console that will play it, so i asked for my money back.

all their other fuckups just made it easier to do that.
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I still can't believe this is real!
Post by: Himu on November 13, 2019, 05:52:22 PM
i mean, it's shenmue. gameplay is gonna be walking and talking with a handful of virtua fighter fights and some qtes. as far as i know they aren't shaking up the formula.

What in the bloody FUCK are you talking about?

Shenmue barely has cutscenes. Despite its story focus it is all about the gameplay.
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I still can't believe this is real!
Post by: mormapope on November 13, 2019, 05:55:06 PM
As far as kickstarters or kickstarted games go, Shenmue 3 is going to be viewed less favorably as Mighty Number 9.  :-\
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I still can't believe this is real!
Post by: Himu on November 13, 2019, 05:55:56 PM
I think Cindi soured on it because of how it went Epic game store exclusive.

It's more than that. I HATE Shenmue fans. Not only have I soured on the developers but also the fanbase. I know these don't matter in the grand scheme but they were all I had while waiting ten plus years. I defended Shenmue for years. I wrote articles with thousands of views on why Shenmue III is worth being excited about. I streamed the games for the dojo. I spread and advertised that site as much as I could. I have been kicked out of the Shenmue community for being too negative and skeptical. They banned me for that very reason and then registered a fake user, pretended they were me, because they know it'd look bad of you just banned someone who has been a part of the community for OVER TEN YEARS simply because they fairly criticized the site owner.

The developers? Snakes.

The fans? Also snakes.

I have tried for months to get excited again. I was going to buy 5-6 copies.

Now I no longer care, have cancelled multiple copies, and just want this to all end so Shenmue can die forever.
Shenmue is already dead, has been for years.
This 3rd one will do like the JSR remaster and just remind people how dated the series is and how little they actually care, beyond the meme itself.

I say this as a fan, since i consider Shenmue 1, one of the greatest achievements in the gaming space.

Good. It and its fans fucking deserve it.
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I still can't believe this is real!
Post by: nachobro on November 13, 2019, 05:56:35 PM
also it wasn't an interest free loan cause they refunded me about $15 more than i pledged :lol
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I still can't believe this is real!
Post by: Himu on November 13, 2019, 05:57:11 PM
I just..don't understand. Here is a link to a trailer from a couple months ago. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=97O-5xuLkJs (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=97O-5xuLkJs)

It shows combat, minigames, talking to old people. That IS what the game is. It's almost like people didn't make a big deal out of these trailers because don't actually give a shit about the gameplay, Cindi. Like the game has been pretty fucking obvious about what it contains and it isn't resonating with people

pretty much every pre-release promise they made was a lie so the devs and the pr can both eat dicks. glad i got my dough back.

Except for the part where they made shenmue 3 and it looks like a good sequel

But I understand if you gave them that interest free loan for reasons completely unrelated to that.

That is the only trailer to show gameplay. The ONLY. TRAILER.
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I still can't believe this is real!
Post by: Svejk on November 13, 2019, 06:06:25 PM
I do agree that they should have left this in the grave.  Lord knows the movie industry bringing back old ass sequels has been nothing but shit. (Matrix 4??!  Whyyyy?!?) However, with this already made, and with the success that Bloodstained was with a industry vet doing his thang, I'll remain hyped.  Sorry this has turned out as a shitshow for alot of people.  I'm enjoying the piss outta Death Stranding too.  What a time to be alive and capable of gaming.  :rejoice
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I still can't believe this is real!
Post by: TVC15 on November 13, 2019, 06:12:56 PM
filler, talk me into trying to Twitch Shenmue 3. Keep in mind I’ll only do it if stosta joins me via voip and provides me with ‘90s 900-number-style phone sex for the duration of the hour or two.
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I still can't believe this is real!
Post by: team filler on November 13, 2019, 06:59:00 PM
shenmue and chill  :rejoice
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I still can't believe this is real!
Post by: TVC15 on November 13, 2019, 07:17:32 PM
Would shota even know what 900 number phone sex was like? Is he even old enough to know that was a thing? How would he learn about such a forgotten subject, unless some exhibitionist recorded their calls 20+ years ago and uploaded them, which is... likely. Anyone got any leads?
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I still can't believe this is real!
Post by: Chooky on November 13, 2019, 07:21:02 PM
i'm not sure why i should care how they're promoting it or if it's gonna sell more than 10 copies? i don't have a fucking stake in the company.

sales and interest were always going to be middling at best because that's how the original games were received too. there's no angle where they were gonna be able to get this ponderous-ass game to catch on with streamers or something. and none of that shit matters to me; what i care about is that now i have a new entry in a series i enjoy and the game looks faithful to its predecessors. everything else is gamers getting extremely worked up over little to nothing.
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I still can't believe this is real!
Post by: nachobro on November 13, 2019, 07:54:20 PM
i assumed 900 numbers still existed but then i realized there's just camgirls now. how lame.
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I still can't believe this is real!
Post by: TVC15 on November 13, 2019, 07:57:44 PM
This is what I’m talking about. That REAL USA Up All Night shit... with Gilbert Gottfried and Rhonda Shear.

https://youtu.be/kfVA8iSGgDc
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I still can't believe this is real!
Post by: thisismyusername on November 13, 2019, 09:18:07 PM
Edit: and dammit, i actually bothered to check their official channel, where there's 3 fucking videos of gameplay uploaded in the past few weeks.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d98TKaE63DI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d98TKaE63DI)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oWTYHejeHp0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oWTYHejeHp0)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WNI0hujRW5c (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WNI0hujRW5c)

woah it's almost like you have an axe to grind or something

If you think I have an axe to grind for the sake of discussion, I dunno what to tell you. :idont

I'm just letting you know where Himu is coming from: The game has had like next to no actual gameplay (3! Wow!!!!) trailers while a bunch of story/pre-rendered trailers are shown. If that doesn't really give you alarm bells ringing, I don't know what to tell you. :idont

Now that Himu is actually discussing their point, I'm going to drop this shit because it's dumb. I was just letting you know what they were talking about. Toodles. <3

Edit: No fucking wonder Himu thought there was no gameplay shown: These are uploaded for the Japanese audience (at least, apparently has English subs) no fucking wonder someone would think there was no gameplay when the English/western uploads basically show none of that shit  long-form. WTF Deep Silver/Yu.
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I still can't believe this is real!
Post by: bork on November 13, 2019, 09:47:50 PM
This is what I’m talking about. That REAL USA Up All Night shit... with Gilbert Gottfried and Rhonda Shear.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TUkhgKFllh4
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I still can't believe this is real!
Post by: Himu on November 13, 2019, 09:53:41 PM
Wow three gameplay videos. Fucking finally, actual gameplay that isn't the E3 demo.

Fuck Shenmue.
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I still can't believe this is real!
Post by: Don Rumata on November 13, 2019, 09:58:06 PM
I do agree that they should have left this in the grave.  Lord knows the movie industry bringing back old ass sequels has been nothing but shit. (Matrix 4??!  Whyyyy?!?) However, with this already made, and with the success that Bloodstained was with a industry vet doing his thang, I'll remain hyped.  Sorry this has turned out as a shitshow for alot of people.  I'm enjoying the piss outta Death Stranding too.  What a time to be alive and capable of gaming.  :rejoice
I'll go on a big rant on why Shenmue wouldn't work today, but let me stress that i'll still likely enjoy this thing (even though i'm pretty sure i'll never receive a copy i paid 100€ for, because i have no way to fix the shipping address, so i'm just gonna have to pirate it or something).

Anyway, my point is, i played Shenmue 1 & 2 on Dreamcast when they came out, they were incredible, mind blowing experiences, to this day i'd rank them among my top 5, because of how unique they are... and yet i don't think without that technical marvel, they would've worked as intended.
The story of Shenmue was peculiar for games, because of how grounded it felt, compared to shit with demons and aliens you'd get in any other action game, in this one you talked to shop keepers and grandmas, about where to find common thugs, you worked your way up some massive Triad ring, from the ground floor, it was like a martial arts action movie mixed with a spy thriller.
That part is still unique to this day, and would still find its niche i think (even though the hints of supernatural shit already started to creep in).

What was in support of all that though, was a massive budget to create the most realistic, immersive, and just plain amazing looking world you'd seen by that point in a videogame.
If Shenmue didn't look as it looked, if you couldn't touch and rotate tangerines, if you couldn't go to an arcade at opening hours, with a realistic day/night cycle, talk with any npc (all voice acted), etc. it wouldn't have made the impact that it has.

Now 20 years later, we've had GTA, Red Dead, Assassin's Creed, BotW, about a million open world games and about 15 of which are Yakuza games; the bar for what is considered an incredibly immersive environment has been raised a hundredfold (and even Yakuza, structurally the most similar game to Shenmue, relies a LOT on meme magic, to get by in the space).

What's left?

The tank controls?
The sub par combat?
The QTEs (cool idea at the time, but everybody got fed up with them)?
Below average graphics and world building (in terms of AI routines, interactions, weather cycles, etc)?
Small world with minigames that Yakuza already tested the stress point of, anyway?

All you have left, really, is the story, which only nostalgia-ridden fans are going to engage with, and it's not gonna be finished in this entry (or any other  :lol) anyway.

Shenmue couldn't realistically be made today, because to be what it was back then, it'd need to impress in the way those ones did; to do it, it'd need 200 million dollars, an international team of top developers... i mean even Final Fantasy failed to do that jump, with XV.

Cindi, they're selling the story BECAUSE it's the only realistic thing they CAN sell, not to a general audience, but the handful of people who still care, and a couple of extra weirdos, who jumped in because of the memes.
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I still can't believe this is real!
Post by: Himu on November 13, 2019, 10:00:50 PM
I'm really trying. I should by all rights be excited by what I'm watching.

But I'm not.

I just don't care anymore.

I was going to replay I and II before III last month, but I said fuck that. It really sucks to feel this way. In a way I'm happy they're releasing it for the fans that care. But I truly feel like I'm done with the franchise.

I gave them over 200 dollars, put the entirety of my faith in them and they completely bungled it like incompetent re re's. I'll have to play it myself to win me back.
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I still can't believe this is real!
Post by: Svejk on November 13, 2019, 10:06:09 PM
I just watched the 10 hours of YouTube cut scenes over the past few weeks, and I can't believe how engaging it still seemed. (I forgot more than I thought) Needless to say, it's refreshed my hype and I look forward to some VF style brawling. 
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I still can't believe this is real!
Post by: Himu on November 13, 2019, 10:14:29 PM
I do agree that they should have left this in the grave.  Lord knows the movie industry bringing back old ass sequels has been nothing but shit. (Matrix 4??!  Whyyyy?!?) However, with this already made, and with the success that Bloodstained was with a industry vet doing his thang, I'll remain hyped.  Sorry this has turned out as a shitshow for alot of people.  I'm enjoying the piss outta Death Stranding too.  What a time to be alive and capable of gaming.  :rejoice
I'll go on a big rant on why Shenmue wouldn't work today, but let me stress that i'll still likely enjoy this thing (even though i'm pretty sure i'll never receive a copy i paid 100€ for, because i have no way to fix the shipping address, so i'm just gonna have to pirate it or something).

Anyway, my point is, i played Shenmue 1 & 2 on Dreamcast when they came out, they were incredible, mind blowing experiences, to this day i'd rank them among my top 5, because of how unique they are... and yet i don't think without that technical marvel, they would've worked as intended.
The story of Shenmue was peculiar for games, because of how grounded it felt, compared to shit with demons and aliens you'd get in any other action game, in this one you talked to shop keepers and grandmas, about where to find common thugs, you worked your way up some massive Triad ring, from the ground floor, it was like a martial arts action movie mixed with a spy thriller.
That part is still unique to this day, and would still find its niche i think (even though the hints of supernatural shit already started to creep in).

What was in support of all that though, was a massive budget to create the most realistic, immersive, and just plain amazing looking world you'd seen by that point in a videogame.
If Shenmue didn't look as it looked, if you couldn't touch and rotate tangerines, if you couldn't go to an arcade at opening hours, with a realistic day/night cycle, talk with any npc (all voice acted), etc. it wouldn't have made the impact that it has.

Now 20 years later, we've had GTA, Red Dead, Assassin's Creed, BotW, about a million open world games and about 15 of which are Yakuza games; the bar for what is considered an incredibly immersive environment has been raised a hundredfold (and even Yakuza, structurally the most similar game to Shenmue, relies a LOT on meme magic, to get by in the space).

What's left?

The tank controls?
The sub par combat?
The QTEs (cool idea at the time, but everybody got fed up with them)?
Below average graphics and world building (in terms of AI routines, interactions, weather cycles, etc)?
Small world with minigames that Yakuza already tested the stress point of, anyway?

All you have left, really, is the story, which only nostalgia-ridden fans are going to engage with, and it's not gonna be finished in this entry (or any other  :lol) anyway.

Shenmue couldn't realistically be made today, because to be what it was back then, it'd need to impress in the way those ones did; to do it, it'd need 200 million dollars, an international team of top developers... i mean even Final Fantasy failed to do that jump, with XV.

Cindi, they're selling the story BECAUSE it's the only realistic thing they CAN sell, not to a general audience, but the handful of people who still care, and a couple of extra weirdos, who jumped in because of the memes.

you're forgetting that modern open world games are about bigger is better while shenmue is very much personal and small, even III. In an age when most game players are getting sick of open world games that are big for the sake of it, they could have honed in on what makes Shenmue stand out: its more smaller, bite sized every day open world. Shenmue still has something to offer unique. They could have marketed Shenmue as the antithesis of modern open-world (which it is).

Instead they just gave people a bunch of story to folks who aren't invested in it because they're dumb shits without one inkling as to what the game has to offer.

Fuck Shenmue, Deep Silver, and YsNet. I'm tired of being disappointed and emotionally invested with this franchise.
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I still can't believe this is real!
Post by: Don Rumata on November 13, 2019, 11:27:31 PM
you're forgetting that modern open world games are about bigger is better while shenmue is very much personal and small, even III. In an age when most game players are getting sick of open world games that are big for the sake of it, they could have honed in on what makes Shenmue stand out: its more smaller, bite sized every day open world. Shenmue still has something to offer unique. They could have marketed Shenmue as the antithesis of modern open-world (which it is).

Instead they just gave people a bunch of story to folks who aren't invested in it because they're dumb shits without one inkling as to what the game has to offer.

Fuck Shenmue, Deep Silver, and YsNet. I'm tired of being disappointed and emotionally invested with this franchise.

That shit costs money.
Having that level of small and personal interaction means a whole lot of animations and voice acting, for modern standards, because games like Detroit let you do a whole lot of it, for example, and look positively insane while doing it.

Now, they can barely put together a 3d model that looks human, do you think they could've had any interesting interaction system, even on a small scale (and keep in mind they are ALREADY operating on a small scale) that wouldn't have looked pathetically simple compared to any other modern AAA game?

Story is really the only thing that was "free" for them to leverage on, because people will tune in for it regardless of quality (those who care, anyway).

They went the nostalgia-bait angle, and i think it's an angle that makes sense, given the circumstances, but of course they still managed to fuck that up with external problems, such as the Epic Games thing.

Although you're talking marketing, while i'm talking design, it seems.
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I still can't believe this is real!
Post by: Coffee Dog on November 14, 2019, 10:10:06 AM
I still don't know what is "concerning" or "worrying" when the game seems fine. That's the only thing worth worrying about.
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I still can't believe this is real!
Post by: Himu on November 14, 2019, 12:08:49 PM
Because I was emotionally invested in a project I waited for since 2006 and they've done everything possible to fuck it up to the point where I don't care anymore because I'm sick of being emotionally invested in a cursed franchise.
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I still can't believe this is real!
Post by: Trent Dole on November 14, 2019, 12:13:14 PM
You are not the products you consume. :doge
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I still can't believe this is real!
Post by: Himu on November 14, 2019, 03:32:23 PM
You are not the products you consume. :doge

who said i was? that doesn't stop your emotions getting involved or the fact that the people in charge are incompetents
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I still can't believe this is real!
Post by: TVC15 on November 14, 2019, 09:43:12 PM
Pre-ordered and I already hate it. Why didn't anyone tell me the Epic Store was so fucking terrible? I have a 4k monitor and it has an interface fit for a cell phone screen.
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I still can't believe this is real!
Post by: thisismyusername on November 14, 2019, 11:01:50 PM
Why didn't anyone tell me the Epic Store was so fucking terrible?

mMarSu right now: :trumps

(https://i.imgur.com/plKmdJy.png)
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I still can't believe this is real!
Post by: bluemax on November 14, 2019, 11:16:22 PM
Sure, but Himu's point is more: This is for non-backers. You still haven't shown gameplay to non-backers through official channels. That's pretty... worrying... dude.

"Worrying". About what? What exactly is worrying? The status of the game? Here's an hour and a half, just from a search of "Shenmue 3 gameplay".
https://youtu.be/0cCVmneDjDA (https://youtu.be/0cCVmneDjDA)

Looks like Shenmue.

The only thing "worrying" is the level of bitch eating crackers shit over their PR, all because of storefront warzzzzz.

I really hope that’s not the real start menu in the final game cuz it some serious struggle shit. I’d be legit mad if I paid cash money and was greeted with that.

"How could it be?" - I asked myself before clicking on it. Yeah that looks like "Hey we got a demo on Wednesday someone throw together a start screen!" level of effort. (Speaking purely from experience)
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I still can't believe this is real!
Post by: eleuin on November 16, 2019, 03:18:11 PM
https://twitter.com/MckKirk/status/1195697373533626369

 :foodcourt
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I still can't believe this is real!
Post by: TVC15 on November 16, 2019, 03:22:20 PM
https://twitter.com/MckKirk/status/1195697373533626369

 :foodcourt

BUT THE Y HAVE 3 VIDEOS ON THEY’R OFFICIAL YOUTUBE

Fuck EGS fanboys. I just wanted a chance to play with a poorly modeled kitten or capsule toy
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I still can't believe this is real!
Post by: Pissy F Benny on November 16, 2019, 04:16:13 PM
A 2 days post release embargo? That’s the softest shit I’ve read in at least 4 hours.

This is gonna be an epic turd  :smug
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I still can't believe this is real!
Post by: TVC15 on November 16, 2019, 04:32:52 PM
Hmm, I have a vague idea for a Bore Event Extravaganza for when I complete Shenmue.  It could bring honor and shame and words and deeds to this forum.
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I still can't believe this is real!
Post by: TVC15 on November 16, 2019, 04:53:02 PM
Hoohoo, this one is cooking fast. demi’s going to love this one
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I still can't believe this is real!
Post by: Tasty on November 16, 2019, 07:48:36 PM
:lol How do you even enforce a post-release embargo.
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I still can't believe this is real!
Post by: Trent Dole on November 16, 2019, 08:37:38 PM
Clicking through to that thread the two day post release embargo is just for the Eu who notoriously ignore such things anyway. Still funny that they'd try that in any territory.
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I still can't believe this is real!
Post by: Himu on November 16, 2019, 08:51:12 PM
:lol

Fuck this game
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I still can't believe this is real!
Post by: Himu on November 16, 2019, 10:20:59 PM
Embargo is only for UK/Europe it seems. US is launch day.

I'll also get the game on Monday. Probably won't have impressions as I am a busy bee.

Tvc let me keep your dragon mirror if you get one.
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I still can't believe this is real!
Post by: Tasty on November 17, 2019, 10:58:39 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y8qwh9P0shU

Yo 18 years, goddamn.

Heartwarming message, and he looks noticeably healthier than prior appearances I've seen of him. :thinking
Title: Re: Shenmue E3 thread of disappointment
Post by: Tasty on November 17, 2019, 11:01:26 PM
It's a good thing I only stan popular, long-running game series. :aah

spoiler (click to show/hide)
Though I still want a new House of the Dead. Sega plz
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:jeb HotD5 came out last year :jeb

:rejoice HotD5 console port next year (probably) :rejoice
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I still can't believe this is real!
Post by: TVC15 on November 17, 2019, 11:02:03 PM
Ugh, I can’t believe I committed to this. Does anyone know a good CONCISE story summary for the first two games on YT?
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I still can't believe this is real!
Post by: Joe Molotov on November 17, 2019, 11:14:06 PM
Ugh, I can’t believe I committed to this. Does anyone know a good CONCISE story summary for the first two games on YT?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQa3yGXzGls

spoiler (click to show/hide)
Big Bear Burgers Guy: "All the sailors are BIG."
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Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I still can't believe this is real!
Post by: NekoFever on November 18, 2019, 04:59:09 AM
Oh my god.

(https://abload.de/img/img_06788yk5z.jpg)

It's been 84 18 years...
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Post by: Trent Dole on November 18, 2019, 08:49:57 AM
https://youtu.be/Y8qwh9P0shU
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Post by: Svejk on November 18, 2019, 09:03:16 AM
Anyone do PS4 digital?  Been waiting for my dl code through fangamer, but haven't gotten one yet... and least not that I know if. 
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Post by: Svejk on November 18, 2019, 09:06:29 AM
Ugh, I can’t believe I committed to this. Does anyone know a good CONCISE story summary for the first two games on YT?
I recently watched these over the past month or two...  if you have the time  :-[

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nhIaFY4jVMU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDJoAfZ_PyI

Edit:  Wasn't S3 suppose to come with like a 10-15 minute summary of the prior installments?
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Post by: bork on November 18, 2019, 09:14:00 AM
Anyone do PS4 digital?  Been waiting for my dl code through fangamer, but haven't gotten one yet... and least not that I know if.

If it's like Bloodstained, check your backer rewards page.  Might already be there.
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Post by: TVC15 on November 18, 2019, 11:51:29 AM
WHAT THE FUCK. I am more likely to finish Death Stranding than I am to watch 10 fucking hours of objectively terrible Shenmue 1 + 2 cut scenes. I am more likely to insert a closed set of scissors into my meatus and slowly open them
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Post by: Himu on November 18, 2019, 01:15:27 PM
WHAT THE FUCK. I am more likely to finish Death Stranding than I am to watch 10 fucking hours of objectively terrible Shenmue 1 + 2 cut scenes. I am more likely to insert a closed set of scissors into my meatus and slowly open them

All you need to know:

Ryo's father is killed by Lan Di with mysterious kung fu no one has seen before. Ryo then becomes obsessed with revenge and drops out of school during his senior year, neglects his social relationships. He finds a letter sent to his father by a mysterious man from China to find a Mr. Chen. He finds Chen and Chen instructs Ryo to find a second mirror - a phoenix mirror. Immediately upon receiving the mirror Ryo starts having dreams of a girl in China. Of mystical creatures and legends.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=foFJrtIxAX8

In Chinese legend there's four gods that helped create the skies: the dragon, the phoenix, tortoise, and tiger (note that Ryo has a tiger on the back of his jacket).

These are known as the four symbols, or four gods, in Chinese mysticism:

(https://i.imgur.com/RgoTBpD.jpg)

Ryo pursues Lan Di and finds he's left for Hong Kong so he tries to get a ticket. He works the dorks to find out more about the gang that transported Lan Di. Ryo eventually gets a boat ride to Hong Kong.

Shenmue 1 ends.

Shenmue II is about Ryo's kung fu journey. He's told to find a Master Mo and Man Mo Temple and is told that in order to talk to them he has to have the WUDE, which are four principles of kung fu. Ryo, who is increasingly incendiary, finds them and demands to see the master. It's a woman and he gets his shit wrecked.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZjMJQEfOQs

She says that Ryo is lacking as a martial artist and should give up on his quest.

The rest of the game is about Ryo building his kung fu. Either physically, or mentally (airing out books as punishment, catching three leaves in a row as they fall to the ground).

The game is very similar to kung fu film classics like The 36th Chamber of Shaolin which tell of an angered kung fu disciples training for revenge.

Ryo's obsession for revenge is so bad that he gets violent with people. He beats the crap out of people to get answers and starts hanging out with gangsters.

The story is about revenge and the cycle of its pervasive tendencies. The kung fu master that beats Ryo's ass? Her parents were murdered when she was young too. And her brother decided to go off and get revenge. It's hinted he's a part of the same crime organization as Lan Di now.

Ryo has two paths: the spirit or revenge.

This is further explored by the fact the game is ultimately about loss and how you deal with it. Every major character has lost someone. You meet Fang Mei, an asisstant to the Kung fu master. She's an orphan and makes the best of it. Her rationale is that she's grateful for being an orphan because otherwise she wouldn't have met Xiuying or Ryo. Every character has their own ways of dealing with loss and act as foils to Ryo's need for revenge.

At the end of the game Ryo overcomes adversity and ends up beating the foe he lost to three times before. His kung fu is leveling up. The strong hint is that he's not ready for Lan Di and will lose when they finally confront, which makes for extremely well made build up.

They find that the mirrors act as a map and in order to complete it Ryo has to go to where the mirrors were made: the Guillin region of China.

He takes a boat and meets the mysterious girl he's been dreaming about. He of course doesn't remember her.

What happens is a spiritual walk as they chat. There's hints that Ryo may be turning inwards and get rid of his desire for revenge as he's practicing tai chi, surrounded by the beauty of nature.

(https://i.imgur.com/VeGjaC4.gif)

The game ends as they go in a cave searching for Shenhua's father and find two giant mirrors.

Themes in Shenmue series:

spirit vs hate
man vs nature (Ryo goes from the dilapidated Kowloon to the forest soaked Guilin for example)
urban vs rural
forgiveness and overcoming loss/grief
Ryo's struggle with revenge. He's ultimately a good kid but is losing himself because of it. The game strongly hints he could become the next Lan Di or maybe he could become more spiritual like Xiuying. He has two paths and the fun of the story is seeing where he falls along them.

TLDR: Shenmue is kung fu Star Wars.

You're welcome.
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I still can't believe this is real!
Post by: Himu on November 18, 2019, 01:16:24 PM
Also, thanks to TVC and forcing me to write that fucking shit I have forgiven the Dojo and I'm actually excited for III for the first time in months.
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Post by: Himu on November 18, 2019, 01:24:33 PM
Also, II is full of kung fu film nods.

For example it uses the Jackie Chan multiple angle instant replay editing thing.

Seen here at 3:50

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wuLMOvCJW4s

Shenmue II is the most realized kung fu game of all time. It's all about Ryo's growth as a martial artist.

More this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9e4HDsEJfro

than something like Drunken Master.

36th Chamber of Shaolin is currently on Netflix. I highly suggest watching it before Shenmue III.

Note that at the end of 36th Chamber, the main character fights the villain he was training the whole film for and the treats the fight as if it's nothing. His desire for revenge is utterly gone.

My last tip is TO PLAY IN JAPANESE. IF YOU PLAY IN ENGLISH YOU GET WHAT YOU DESERVE.
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Post by: TVC15 on November 18, 2019, 01:33:53 PM
Also, thanks to TVC and forcing me to write that fucking shit I have forgiven the Dojo and I'm actually excited for III for the first time in months.

Thank you, Cindi. I really appreciate it. I find the VA in these games fun in the context of video games, but when you give me a multi-hour block of Shenmue or MGS VA to watch, it starts turning my brain into pudding the same way paying attention to a children's TV show does. It feels like there's so much effort placed on clear enunciation or something (which I guess is kinda understandable given the gaming medium).

Oh, question: does the PC version of 1+2 offer better control options? I might be able to play the original games if I can use an analog stick to move around. Or are the PC ports just bad? I remember a lot of complaints about the rereleases, but I'm not sure if they were just about the console versions.
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Post by: Himu on November 18, 2019, 01:41:32 PM
They added analog control to Shenmue 1.

II already had analog control. It was non-tank and I loved it. And they changed it in the remaster to make the analog control to behave like the d-pad and be tank link.  They essentially downgraded the analog controls for Shenmue II HD.

Again, another example of shenmue devs fucking up.

I don't know about PC but I hear they're better now.
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I still can't believe this is real!
Post by: Svejk on November 18, 2019, 01:43:07 PM
Anyone do PS4 digital?  Been waiting for my dl code through fangamer, but haven't gotten one yet... and least not that I know if.

If it's like Bloodstained, check your backer rewards page.  Might already be there.
Yeah, still not seeing it.  I emailed them, so waiting on that.   Not like I have time to play it anytime soon anyway.   :doge
Also, thanks to TVC and forcing me to write that fucking shit I have forgiven the Dojo and I'm actually excited for III for the first time in months.
Nice!  Welcome back
 :playa
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I still can't believe this is real!
Post by: Himu on November 18, 2019, 02:15:25 PM
I got Shenmue III and don't know how to feel.
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Post by: nachobro on November 18, 2019, 02:16:34 PM
lol of course there's already dlc made, shenmue 3 is a modern game in the wrong ways :lol
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Post by: Himu on November 18, 2019, 02:38:19 PM
How TF do I get my backer code and lmao at this start screen
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Post by: Himu on November 18, 2019, 03:10:59 PM
This is very cheap.

Changing run from L to R and zoom from R to L is an odd decision. Even more odd is that I can't change the buttons.
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Post by: Pissy F Benny on November 18, 2019, 04:04:39 PM
Post a pic of the start screen, is it the same as the horrific one from the demo?
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Post by: TVC15 on November 18, 2019, 04:20:31 PM
This is very cheap.

Changing run from L to R and zoom from R to L is an odd decision. Even more odd is that I can't change the buttons.

How are you playing already? Or is it just the backer demo?
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Post by: Himu on November 18, 2019, 04:33:34 PM
I got it shipped from fangamer/kickstarter. It's the full game.

Impressions:

- Day one is bad.

- They learned jack shit from Shenmue II and have regressed. In Shenmue II they fixed the glacial pacing of the original. You ask where something is and people point things out and give literal directions. "Go around that corner, turn a right at the man that feeds birds." Not in Shenmue III.

- The locks you into a small, dinky little town square. You cannot go past it. You are completely limited beyond a few games of Lucky Hit, some ball-pale game, and some capsule toys. You can't do shit.

- Constant cutscenes. In Shenmue II's Gulin chapter you talk with Shenhua as you walk. It's very organic and relaxing. Here, I'm putting my controller down and it's constantly feeding me tips and tricks.

- Constant loading with a ps2 like loading screen. Nah. If you load that much you don't tell the players when you're loading because now we're conscious of when you're loading. A black screen is more preferable.

- The UX is terrible and makes the game a chore. Like I'm playing Lucky Hit. You only get one try in this game it seems. Okay, fine. But when you mess up and land on the wrong slot you have to go back to square one. You say yes you want to play Lucky Hit again, and then you have to select the board you lost at AGAIN. In II all they did was a simple,"wanna another shot?" and you could say yes or no and you're right back to it. In III it takes so much time to play another game of Lucky Hit on the same board that it borders on tedium. And then I did some toy capsules and said "yes" to wanting more and Ryo instantly got another one without picking which machine. So what's with the inconsistency? Then there's exploring. In this game you will select a dresser drawer and press confirm and you have to press confirm AGAIN. This makes exploring and side games, the two cornerstones of Shenmue's gameplay, completely tedious and slow. Even trying to navigate the journal makes no goddamn sense.

- That said, when it gets in the flow it feels like real Shenmue. I found myself smiling while playing Lucky Hit and listening to that gorgeous music.

As it is the first few days are worst than the beginning of Shenmue 1. At least in 1 you have interesting characters and people with personality and can explore a bit. I'm sure the game gets better as it opens up but damn what were they fucking smoking?
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Post by: TVC15 on November 18, 2019, 05:52:15 PM
Quote
As it is the first few days are worst than the beginning of Shenmue 1.

You pretended to be disinterested in this to trick me into playing it, didn't you?
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Post by: Himu on November 18, 2019, 05:57:43 PM
The game still isn't open but the pieces are starting to come together and it's feeling mighty good :)
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Post by: Himu on November 18, 2019, 07:49:42 PM
Despite the horrendously slow start I'm at work and can't wait to play more.

There are a lot of good moments already and the laid back nature of Shenmue games is shining through. The problem is how locked in you are at the beginning. Again, no idea what they were thinking.
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Post by: NekoFever on November 18, 2019, 10:02:56 PM
The fenced-in opening section doesn't last long, though. It's copying what the first game did where it slowly broadens your horizons as you hit certain trigger points, and it kind of makes more sense in this one where there are a lot of systems to get your head around.

And once you've got a bit more freedom, they've absolutely nailed it. It feels like Shenmue and really doesn't play like they've had to narrow the scope to do it on a budget at all.

My only real criticisms so far are that the UI is dogshit (it starts going downhill from a main menu consisting of text in Impact on a static background, unbelievably) and Ryo runs like he's shat himself. Having to feed yourself has the potential to annoy too, but I'll reserve judgement on that.
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Post by: Himu on November 18, 2019, 10:57:45 PM
The closed opening in I ends very quickly though.

Night chats with Shenhua rock.
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Post by: Sho Nuff on November 19, 2019, 01:08:42 AM
(https://ksr-ugc.imgix.net/assets/027/169/989/7ff848e2d82dc949e6592f7732053948_original.png?ixlib=rb-2.1.0&w=700&fit=max&v=1573455432&auto=format&gif-q=50&lossless=true&s=660159f716527fd96eb5efd5082485f2)

YOU USED
MICROSOFT IMPACT
ON YOUR TITLE SCREEN

Also: where the FUCK does one get their actual digital download code from the Kickstarter page

edit: Ohhh it's on a Fangamer survey page, i had to dig into my emails. Goes live in 11 hours or so. Oh boy
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Post by: Himu on November 19, 2019, 01:17:57 AM
Do I have to enter the PS4 code to access my backer shit
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Post by: Sho Nuff on November 19, 2019, 01:34:17 AM
(https://i.ibb.co/nrR6M4J/SM3.jpg)
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Post by: Don Rumata on November 19, 2019, 02:16:25 AM
The fangamer page has the code for the DLC shit, but not for the game.
I should be getting the physical ps4 version, but i'm not even 100% sure at this point.

It seems they didn't ship with any kind of tracking, for a 100€ order.  :lol
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Post by: Himu on November 19, 2019, 02:30:33 AM
I had ttacking for USPS.

This game gets REALLY good. Full on Shenmue relax mode. It's great!
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Post by: Don Rumata on November 19, 2019, 02:48:35 AM
You access the USPS through the fangamer page? Could be different for the US.
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Post by: Himu on November 19, 2019, 03:05:38 AM
No it was default.

First you have to confirm your address then they send an email saying it's ready for shipment which includes tracking info.
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Post by: Sho Nuff on November 19, 2019, 03:39:58 AM
I think I ordered the digital version because I'm a cheapy mccheap
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Post by: Don Rumata on November 19, 2019, 04:04:21 AM
No it was default.

First you have to confirm your address then they send an email saying it's ready for shipment which includes tracking info.
Just found the email.
It confirms it's shipped with royal mail, and it is NOT tracked.

Quote
We are acting as the order fulfilment agent for Fangamer and your order was dispatched on 13-Nov-2019
Your order was dispatched via Royal Mails International service.
NB this not a tracked service and will be delivered by your normal National Mail service

Please note Spiral Galaxy are dispatching the Physical game ONLY. All other kickstarted items will be delivered seperately - Please see Updates on Kickstarter for further information.

Your Order Reference Number is : [ :-* REDACTED :-*] (NB. this is not a courier tracking number)


I hope it doesn't get lost.  :'(
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Post by: Himu on November 19, 2019, 04:09:47 AM
You're a Brit I see. Pegged you as a Frenchie or Spaniard
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Post by: Don Rumata on November 19, 2019, 04:20:07 AM
You're a Brit I see. Pegged you as a Frenchie or Spaniard
I'm not, but i assume they ship from the UK, so it starts as royal mail, and then goes into other national postal systems.
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Post by: Svejk on November 19, 2019, 07:54:35 AM
I think I ordered the digital version because I'm a cheapy mccheap
Same here.  Yeah, the voucher code is suppose to release at 11am EST in my time zone.  Kinda weird how they're doing this, but oh well.  Not like I have a chance to play it anytime soon. :-\
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Post by: Svejk on November 19, 2019, 08:55:02 AM
I hope to see some Eagleclaw in this episode. Always been my favorite style of Kung Fu since Iron Monkey (the OG one, not that Tarrantino presented abomination.) One of the greatest MA flix of all time.
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Post by: tiesto on November 19, 2019, 09:20:44 AM
(https://ksr-ugc.imgix.net/assets/027/169/989/7ff848e2d82dc949e6592f7732053948_original.png?ixlib=rb-2.1.0&w=700&fit=max&v=1573455432&auto=format&gif-q=50&lossless=true&s=660159f716527fd96eb5efd5082485f2)

YOU USED
MICROSOFT IMPACT
ON YOUR TITLE SCREEN

Also: where the FUCK does one get their actual digital download code from the Kickstarter page

edit: Ohhh it's on a Fangamer survey page, i had to dig into my emails. Goes live in 11 hours or so. Oh boy

At least its not helvetica...
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Post by: Tasty on November 19, 2019, 10:26:49 AM
(https://ksr-ugc.imgix.net/assets/027/169/989/7ff848e2d82dc949e6592f7732053948_original.png?ixlib=rb-2.1.0&w=700&fit=max&v=1573455432&auto=format&gif-q=50&lossless=true&s=660159f716527fd96eb5efd5082485f2)

YOU USED
MICROSOFT IMPACT
ON YOUR TITLE SCREEN

Also: where the FUCK does one get their actual digital download code from the Kickstarter page

edit: Ohhh it's on a Fangamer survey page, i had to dig into my emails. Goes live in 11 hours or so. Oh boy

Looks like someone's starter XNA game or something.

That said, the logo font for the Shenmue series is terrible too, they probably don't know what a good typeface looks like.
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Post by: Svejk on November 19, 2019, 10:30:50 AM
Yeah, didn't the original title use papyrus or something?  Yu should just use the AM2 logo font for everything.
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I still can't believe this is real!
Post by: Himu on November 19, 2019, 10:51:38 AM
(https://ksr-ugc.imgix.net/assets/027/169/989/7ff848e2d82dc949e6592f7732053948_original.png?ixlib=rb-2.1.0&w=700&fit=max&v=1573455432&auto=format&gif-q=50&lossless=true&s=660159f716527fd96eb5efd5082485f2)

YOU USED
MICROSOFT IMPACT
ON YOUR TITLE SCREEN

Also: where the FUCK does one get their actual digital download code from the Kickstarter page

edit: Ohhh it's on a Fangamer survey page, i had to dig into my emails. Goes live in 11 hours or so. Oh boy

Looks like someone's starter XNA game or something.

That said, the logo font for the Shenmue series is terrible too, they probably don't know what a good typeface looks like.

Yu dictates everything and his reasoning is "I heard young English speakers can't read cursive anymore so we aren't using the old logo the series has had for twenty years". He like, designed himself.

George Lucas situation where no one is willing to say no.
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Post by: Tasty on November 19, 2019, 11:31:51 AM
Weren't you also disappointed with DQ11 Cindi? Tough luck with all those long time running nostalgia series games, huh.

She's been warmer on the Switch version I think.
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I still can't believe this is real!
Post by: Himu on November 19, 2019, 11:37:00 AM
So far I'm not disappointed with III? Has borys been reading the page?
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I still can't believe this is real!
Post by: Himu on November 19, 2019, 11:38:59 AM
Weren't you also disappointed with DQ11 Cindi? Tough luck with all those long time running nostalgia series games, huh.

She's been warmer on the Switch version I think.

Nah. I'll buy it to support the series though.
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I still can't believe this is real!
Post by: Himu on November 19, 2019, 01:56:23 PM
More impressions:

- Story pacing is a glacier. We are talking worse than Shenmue 1. And given that II fixed pretty much everything about 1's pacing and story there really is no excuse. So far I've played more than a few hours and literally nothing has happened. I'm still stuck in the first area with places cut off from entry.

- Combat is horrific. Generic grunt looking dudes that Ryo would have toasted with two punches in previous Shenmue games now can take half your life bar. It makes fighting tedious. They changed moves so you enter button combinations to do moves which doesn't work for Shenmue given the sheer amount of moves at your disposal. The move inputs also make no sense now. In the past there was a dedicated punch button, kick button, dodge button. But now it's just random, but you've got an entire list of moves to use so randomness doesn't work.

- You can't skip text unless they're repeating old information ( stupid decision given the monotony that Shenmue can get to)

- You can't skip cutscenes.

Despite these issues the game is still good.

- It has a relaxed pace and the game loop of training -> getting money for healing items -> exploring -> repeat is fun. This game, more than any other Shenmue game, has the act of perfecting a routine or schedule.

- The game feels so lived in. Chatting with Shenhua at night is a joy.

- I love the martial training aspect and the feel of getting stronger. Exploration is good when you're allowed it.

- Lots of fun diversions like fishing, herb gathering that allow you to gain money. Shenmue III is pretty freeform like II in that regard. Even more so actually.

Right now the biggest issue is the story pacing. It is really, really bad. I hope to God it picks up.
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Post by: nachobro on November 19, 2019, 03:37:13 PM
Anyone want my backer code? They emailed it to me today even though I got a refund. Honestly not sure what it's for, just says it "unlocks in game content"
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I still can't believe this is real!
Post by: Tasty on November 19, 2019, 03:40:49 PM
I just got mine too lol. But keeping it.

Is there a time limit to redeem?
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Post by: Himu on November 19, 2019, 03:41:27 PM
You have to give them your dlc code too. The backer code validates the dlc.
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I still can't believe this is real!
Post by: nachobro on November 19, 2019, 03:42:44 PM
i wonder if everyone got the same password?

oh i dont have a dlc code
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Post by: Pissy F Benny on November 19, 2019, 04:01:56 PM
Anyone want my backer code? They emailed it to me today even though I got a refund. Honestly not sure what it's for, just says it "unlocks in game content"

If it’s PS4 I’ll try it out playboy
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I still can't believe this is real!
Post by: nachobro on November 19, 2019, 04:04:06 PM
seems its usable on both, but if you need a dlc code you may be out of luck. either way give it a shot. ill pm in a sec
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Post by: Pissy F Benny on November 19, 2019, 04:13:40 PM
lol I thought it was for a free copy not some dlc, sorry m8
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Post by: nachobro on November 19, 2019, 04:17:43 PM
 :lol
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I still can't believe this is real!
Post by: Himu on November 20, 2019, 02:02:50 PM
Shenmue III is a bad game.

But I still like it.

Honestly if you aren't a Shenmue diehard you really shouldn't bother playing it.
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Post by: thisismyusername on November 20, 2019, 06:10:18 PM
So in other words, I suffered Shenmue 1-2 for nothing after all the hype for the kickstarter? :goty2
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Post by: Trent Dole on November 20, 2019, 10:27:52 PM
So you think there'll be a IV or is it gonna permadie now.
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Post by: Don Rumata on November 21, 2019, 05:40:24 AM
So you think there'll be a IV or is it gonna permadie now.
It certainly wouldn't have the propulsion this one had.
Announcing a Shenmue 4 on the E3 stage, wouldn't turn heads like 3 did.

That said, it could probably happen if they can keep it super low budget and reuse assets from 3, just to continue the story for the hardcore fans.
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I still can't believe this is real!
Post by: thisismyusername on November 21, 2019, 07:09:26 AM
I mean the Kickstarter made them money. Depending on how hardcore fans like Himu perceive this one (Himu hating it, others liking it????), I could see them getting enough kickstarter money (1million? I guess?) to reuse assets to the finish line, maybe. As highly unlikely as it would be, the "hard" part of getting an engine and getting assets is over.
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Post by: Don Rumata on November 21, 2019, 07:17:34 AM
Engine is UE4, so that was free in the first place.
Shenmue was supposed to be what, 12, 9 parts? I doubt they could wrap it up in 4 anyway.
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Post by: thisismyusername on November 21, 2019, 07:40:20 AM
Was it? AFAIK for AA(A) studios, Epic charges you to get around the licensing recouping fee thing they do on indies.

And yeah, the biggest problem for the series is Yu's hubris: Thinking he can do a GRAND EPIC ADVENTURE!!!! of 12-parts when he hasn't released a first part (at the time). The same issue that plagues TV shows and movies. But made worse in games because they clearly don't write these stories to be slightly self-containing.

(Maybe if Yu made a table-top campaign RPG thing for GURPS, Genesys, D20 Open-Source... he could finish the story that way AND let players write their own adventures for Ryo/etc. But that'd kinda fly in the face of his "control" so would never happen)
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Post by: Chooky on November 21, 2019, 11:39:38 AM
that 12 part thing isn't accurate anyway. iirc the end of shenmue 2 was the conclusion of part 5 or something.
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Post by: Svejk on November 21, 2019, 11:47:57 AM
Yeah, I think he said he could(would) wrap it up with 6 installments... 5, if pushing it.  Been trying to find where I read that, but failing at my google-fu today.  :doge
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Post by: Himu on November 21, 2019, 11:49:00 AM
I never said I hate it. I said the opposite. I like it. But it's a bad game.
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Post by: TVC15 on November 21, 2019, 12:56:56 PM
Hey Cindi, about how many hours will I have to play before it "opens up" and feels not on rails? Sorry for being vague, I hope you know what I mean. When can I do what I want, beyond the initial opening story/tutorial rush?

(Also, maybe you skipped these, but how long are the Shenmue 1&2 summary vids? If it's under an hour total I'll give em a shot)

Just wondering if I should try this tonight. If it takes like 4 hours to get going, it's not a good game to start on a work night.

Also, if any PC nerds could give me recs on best capture software or whatever, I'll see if I can come up with GIF gold. Just give me the name of software, I'll figure it out. No idea if these store overlay capture systems are any good.
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Post by: Himu on November 21, 2019, 01:02:14 PM
The entire town doesn't open up until you do a bunch of bullshit. It's horrific in pacing. Took like a week or more of in game time to have full access to the town.

By comparison you have full access of Hong Kong in Shenmue II at day two if you make it to the hotel.

Complete regression clearly made to pad the game out and of course Shenmue diehards are saying that aspect is good
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Post by: Himu on November 21, 2019, 01:44:59 PM
I made it to the second city/town.

So far this is the most pointless sequel ever made.

Every story revelation is something revealed in II.

The mirrors contain a map to royal treasure?!  :o

Sunming Zhao is Lan Di's father?!?! :o

https://youtu.be/V9F5vROqpwk

And yet Ryo is shocked in every single scene.

Remember the whole goal for Ryo to Guilin to begin with was because that was where the mirrors were made and he could find insight about the treasure? But the whole reveal for the Guilin part is *gasp* the mirrors contain a map to treasure!

Ryo is a fucking dumb ass in this. Asks if Chai is part of the Chi You Men. Did you forget fighting that bald fuck multiple times in Shenmue 1?

The game posits it's "for the fans" but so far is really just an overall overview of the plot points already told in II.

So really, it's for Shenmue 1 fans that skipped the vastly superior Shenmue II.

No answers. No new plot points or development. Just recap of shit we've known for a decade plus.



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Post by: nachobro on November 21, 2019, 03:10:30 PM
 :goty2

that's a bummer
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Post by: Don Rumata on November 21, 2019, 03:16:45 PM
Shenmue 2 being "vastly superior" is debatable, though i just see them as two acts of the same story.  :hitler

Maybe it's been so long, Yu Suzuki actually forgot those plot points himself  :lol
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Post by: team filler on November 21, 2019, 03:22:31 PM
I still need to watch a shenmue 2 longplay  ;)
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Post by: Don Rumata on November 21, 2019, 03:23:53 PM
I still need to watch a shenmue 2 longplay  ;)
The beauty of Shenmue is to live inside that world and immerse yourself in it, the story isn't all that, it'd just be a big waste fo time, in my opinion.
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Post by: Himu on November 21, 2019, 03:43:50 PM
Shenmue 2 being "vastly superior" is debatable, though i just see them as two acts of the same story.  :hitler

Maybe it's been so long, Yu Suzuki actually forgot those plot points himself  :lol

I don't disagree but you know what i mean
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Post by: team filler on November 21, 2019, 08:50:35 PM
I still need to watch a shenmue 2 longplay  ;)
The beauty of Shenmue is to live inside that world and immerse yourself in it, the story isn't all that, it'd just be a big waste fo time, in my opinion.
the beauty of watching a longplay is that I don't actually play the game, I just let someone else live inside and immerse themselves while I watch  :-[
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Post by: Svejk on November 22, 2019, 09:18:09 AM
I can't believe this is sitting in my PS4 right now... and I have no time to play it.  It's still gonna be awhile.  :-\ 
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Post by: Sho Nuff on November 22, 2019, 09:37:01 AM
Oh man. This is....the pacing of this game...it's like...glacial.

This is such a Dreamcast game. The awkward camera cuts, the myriad of technical issues we've solved in the 18 years since... I wish I could knock all the models down to LOD2/LOD3 and run it at 640x480 on a CRT.
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Post by: Mr. Nobody on November 23, 2019, 06:17:23 PM
Is it really that bad? :goty
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Post by: mormapope on November 23, 2019, 07:40:26 PM
Shenmue 1&2 are still technical marvels I'd say. Disregarding gameplay and storytelling, Shenmue was viewed as quite a technical marvel at the time. Like, in HD they still look great to this day.

Shenmue 3 visually looks like eurojank made a generation ago. It's astounding how bad the character models and animations are. This was not going to be a huge, technical marvel. However, it doesn't have that same theming or style the first two games have.

Dreamcast games have lots of charm. Shenmue 3..... doesn't.
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Post by: Himu on November 23, 2019, 09:26:52 PM
Is it really that bad? :goty

Yeah
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Post by: Nintex on November 23, 2019, 09:37:38 PM
The Giant Bomb quick look on this is gold. It's basically 50 minutes of finding the thugs and they talk to every single npc in the world.
This game is bizarre, yet compelling and nothing has been streamlined or changed since the original  :doge
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Post by: Sho Nuff on November 23, 2019, 09:48:23 PM
Shenmue III looks like the Marlowe Briggs team made it
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Post by: Himu on November 23, 2019, 09:55:27 PM
The Giant Bomb quick look on this is gold. It's basically 50 minutes of finding the thugs and they talk to every single npc in the world.
This game is bizarre, yet compelling and nothing has been streamlined or changed since the original  :doge

It's actually much worse.

It regressed.

Shenmue II was far more streamlined than 1. You would ask NPCs for directions and they would give long descriptions after pointing in the overall direction like,"keep going straight up there and turn left when you see the fountain."

There was even a feature where NPCs would guide you to the local and you would follow them.

Shenmue III is in every sense of the word a step beck and whether it was conscious of because of lack of resources.
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Post by: thisismyusername on November 23, 2019, 10:25:44 PM
Shenmue III looks like the Marlowe Briggs team made it

I won't stand for this slander to Marlowe Briggs' team.
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Post by: Don Rumata on November 24, 2019, 01:59:22 AM
My copy is still nowhere to be found.  :'(
Game is even already cracked on PC, so i would've played it first if i had pirated it.   :lol

I really hope it's just very late and not lost in the shuffle, but no tracking on a 100€ pledge will never not be a bum move.
Good luck with a Shenmue 4 crowdfunding, boys.  ;)
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Post by: Don Rumata on November 24, 2019, 02:05:56 AM
The Giant Bomb quick look on this is gold. It's basically 50 minutes of finding the thugs and they talk to every single npc in the world.
This game is bizarre, yet compelling and nothing has been streamlined or changed since the original  :doge

It's actually much worse.

It regressed.

Shenmue II was far more streamlined than 1. You would ask NPCs for directions and they would give long descriptions after pointing in the overall direction like,"keep going straight up there and turn left when you see the fountain."

There was even a feature where NPCs would guide you to the local and you would follow them.

Shenmue III is in every sense of the word a step beck and whether it was conscious of because of lack of resources.
But like, in Shenmue 1 was cool having to look for family names on the sign outside of houses, instead of being guided immediately to a destination.
It wasn't a flawless system, since it was all new stuff they were making up as they went along, but going further in that direction, instead of streamlining it just to get you to the next plot point, would've been more interesting; although Shenmue 2 did have more plot to go through, so i understand why they did it.





Also fuck Shenmue 2 for not letting you phone home, what kind of a cunt is Ryo, that gets off the ship, and doesn't even call back to Fukuhara, Ine-san or Nozomi (although she was in Canada, but still he must've had a number)?
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I still can't believe this is real!
Post by: Himu on November 24, 2019, 02:26:57 AM
Doesn't change that it's a regression.
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Post by: Sho Nuff on November 24, 2019, 02:28:08 AM
The Giant Bomb quick look on this is gold. It's basically 50 minutes of finding the thugs and they talk to every single npc in the world.
This game is bizarre, yet compelling and nothing has been streamlined or changed since the original  :doge

It's actually much worse.

It regressed.

Shenmue II was far more streamlined than 1. You would ask NPCs for directions and they would give long descriptions after pointing in the overall direction like,"keep going straight up there and turn left when you see the fountain."

There was even a feature where NPCs would guide you to the local and you would follow them.

Shenmue III is in every sense of the word a step beck and whether it was conscious of because of lack of resources.

I worked on Shenmue II's loc. The amount of text/voice/resources for that NPC guidance feature was utter insanity. I'd spend days translating different ways to get to Man Mo Temple. It's etched into my brain forever. There were so many cheaper ways they could have done that feature but goddamn they went for it.

I'm at the point where
spoiler (click to show/hide)
I got my ass kicked by the guy with the scar on his face.
[close]
I'm not sure when things are supposed to pick up, nor do I have any idea of how big the map is or what kind of scale the world has
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Post by: Himu on November 24, 2019, 03:03:38 AM
Speaking of phone calls, the phone calls Ryo can make to old friends is really cool and nostslgic.

Chatting with Nozomi after so long feels amazing. Like a long lost friend
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Post by: TVC15 on November 24, 2019, 03:40:58 AM
Going to start DLing this on my PC. I might just jump right into the game without doing any catch-up work or watching the vids. Will I be super confused or do they ease you into the ongoing narrative?
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Post by: Himu on November 24, 2019, 03:55:23 AM
Given that the game is a pointless retread of plot points already made in II.you should be fine
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Post by: TVC15 on November 24, 2019, 05:54:48 AM
This is like sub-community college-level UX design. It’s also way poly-starved. Haven’t had to break that one out in a few generations. There are some nice textures but the environments and characters are so paltry in any polygonal detail.
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Post by: TVC15 on November 24, 2019, 06:01:53 AM
WHY DO THEY KEEP REPEATING THEMSELVES
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Post by: TVC15 on November 24, 2019, 06:10:40 AM
This is so poorly localized. They really captured the original. I’m like 20 minutes in and there have already been several complete non-sequitors that a child would notice.
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Post by: TVC15 on November 24, 2019, 06:30:47 AM
Holy shit, what is the combat? Didn’t Yu Suzuki have something to do with VF? This is terrible  :rofl He lost what little Shenmue had going for it.
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Post by: Chooky on November 24, 2019, 08:43:19 AM

Also fuck Shenmue 2 for not letting you phone home, what kind of a cunt is Ryo, that gets off the ship, and doesn't even call back to Fukuhara, Ine-san or Nozomi (although she was in Canada, but still he must've had a number)?

i mean, it would have been neat, but do you remember trying to make international calls back in the day? that shit was a nightmare.
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Post by: CatsCatsCats on November 24, 2019, 11:48:41 AM
So, we can believe it’s real now?
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Post by: Don Rumata on November 24, 2019, 12:27:41 PM
So you think there'll be a IV or is it gonna permadie now.
It certainly wouldn't have the propulsion this one had.
Announcing a Shenmue 4 on the E3 stage, wouldn't turn heads like 3 did.

That said, it could probably happen if they can keep it super low budget and reuse assets from 3, just to continue the story for the hardcore fans.

Who else but hardcore fans are buying a kickstarter 20 years later sequel to a niche franchise from a niche console that flopped? Shenmue doesn't have casual fans by default.
Not in this state, but Yakuza does and it's a similar base template.
With their current production values i agree, only nostalgia ridden fans will care.
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I still can't believe this is real!
Post by: Himu on November 24, 2019, 12:30:25 PM
They said they wouldnt do a Kickstarter for a 4 anyways so this is a pointless discussion.
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Post by: BIONIC on November 24, 2019, 12:37:26 PM
So, we can believe it’s real now?

Yeah, real shit :rodney
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Post by: Kara on November 24, 2019, 05:05:46 PM
My copy is still nowhere to be found.  :'(
Game is even already cracked on PC, so i would've played it first if i had pirated it.   :lol

I really hope it's just very late and not lost in the shuffle, but no tracking on a 100€ pledge will never not be a bum move.
Good luck with a Shenmue 4 crowdfunding, boys.  ;)

Been too busy to play anyway but it's not even like they want me to play the game when it comes to redeeming my digital download code.
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I CAN believe that it's bad!
Post by: Sho Nuff on November 25, 2019, 07:27:13 AM
Can ANYONE explain to me this seemingly piece of shit combat system?

It keeps popping up QTE's mid-battle. I can't figure out if I'm supposed to hit the buttons immediately after they appear, or on the beat (X-X-A , X-X-A). It seems totally random and there's no explanation.
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Post by: thetylerrob on November 25, 2019, 10:04:02 AM
I know that 6 million isn't a lot in the grand scheme of 3d games development and this has probably been discussed to death, but is there a generally agreed reason that this game turned out so rough looking? Has anyone written an in depth article about the troubled development or is that coming later?
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Post by: Himu on November 25, 2019, 11:51:42 AM
Can ANYONE explain to me this seemingly piece of shit combat system?

It keeps popping up QTE's mid-battle. I can't figure out if I'm supposed to hit the buttons immediately after they appear, or on the beat (X-X-A , X-X-A). It seems totally random and there's no explanation.

Those are qte's for sparring to build a move you have equipped so you can get it to master level. The qte is the moves command.

Buy spin kick and ground kick from the store where you chop wood. Spar with monks and master the moves. Sparring is good because it increases the attack power of moves while also leveling Kung Fu.

Then turn the game on easy mode because normal is dog shit and incredibly unfun.

Btw expect to never hit a qte the first time in this game. Game is trash.
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Post by: Himu on November 25, 2019, 11:54:44 AM
I know that 6 million isn't a lot in the grand scheme of 3d games development and this has probably been discussed to death, but is there a generally agreed reason that this game turned out so rough looking? Has anyone written an in depth article about the troubled development or is that coming later?

7 million and four publishers actually. So back deal money. Idk you ask me. The game doesn't even have the affinity systen which was a KS tier at like 4 million.
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Post by: I'm a Puppy! on November 25, 2019, 12:55:39 PM
QTEs in 2019 :neogaf
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Post by: TVC15 on November 25, 2019, 12:57:58 PM
QTEs in 2019 :neogaf

:bolo How dare you insult Shenmue's legacy. Shenmue invented the QTE! Nobody shits on MC Hammer for playing Can't Touch This in 2019 :bolo

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Post by: demi on November 25, 2019, 01:10:21 PM
So do you get to kill Lan Di yet? The one chance to finish the story and they probably are leaving it yet again at a cliffhanger lmao
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Post by: thisismyusername on November 25, 2019, 03:02:26 PM
We can't do that until Shamu 18, Demi-san. :comeon
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Post by: demi on November 25, 2019, 04:06:02 PM
Just jettison Ryo to the moon to hang out with Mega Man
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Post by: bluemax on November 27, 2019, 02:05:31 AM
Just jettison Ryo to the moon to hang out with Mega Man

Mega Man is about to make his epic come back by appearing in Nintendo's gacha phone game.

I mean the Kickstarter made them money. Depending on how hardcore fans like Himu perceive this one (Himu hating it, others liking it????), I could see them getting enough kickstarter money (1million? I guess?) to reuse assets to the finish line, maybe. As highly unlikely as it would be, the "hard" part of getting an engine and getting assets is over.

1 million ain't gonna get it done unless they hire like 3 kids from Digipen Taiwan to do it.

Engine is UE4, so that was free in the first place.
Shenmue was supposed to be what, 12, 9 parts? I doubt they could wrap it up in 4 anyway.

Costs money for support and they take a cut of whatever you make.
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Post by: Bebpo on November 27, 2019, 02:11:16 AM
So it sounds like this game is as bad as it looked?

Why didn't they re-use the virtua fighter combat which made the combat good in the originals (because VF is the bestest). Did Yu Suzuki not remember how to make the VF engine?
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I CAN believe that it's bad!
Post by: Sho Nuff on November 27, 2019, 02:38:45 AM
Can ANYONE explain to me this seemingly piece of shit combat system?

It keeps popping up QTE's mid-battle. I can't figure out if I'm supposed to hit the buttons immediately after they appear, or on the beat (X-X-A , X-X-A). It seems totally random and there's no explanation.

Those are qte's for sparring to build a move you have equipped so you can get it to master level. The qte is the moves command.

Buy spin kick and ground kick from the store where you chop wood. Spar with monks and master the moves. Sparring is good because it increases the attack power of moves while also leveling Kung Fu.

Then turn the game on easy mode because normal is dog shit and incredibly unfun.

Btw expect to never hit a qte the first time in this game. Game is trash.

THANK YOU BRO. Knocked it down to easy and now it's not awful. My moves are all at level 10 now but I don't know what in the fuck is going on with the button assignments. This IS completely different to the first game, right? Are there even throws!? It's been ages since I played 1&2 (literally on the DC when they first came out) but it feels wrong.
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Post by: Himu on November 27, 2019, 02:48:33 AM
Can ANYONE explain to me this seemingly piece of shit combat system?

It keeps popping up QTE's mid-battle. I can't figure out if I'm supposed to hit the buttons immediately after they appear, or on the beat (X-X-A , X-X-A). It seems totally random and there's no explanation.

Those are qte's for sparring to build a move you have equipped so you can get it to master level. The qte is the moves command.

Buy spin kick and ground kick from the store where you chop wood. Spar with monks and master the moves. Sparring is good because it increases the attack power of moves while also leveling Kung Fu.

Then turn the game on easy mode because normal is dog shit and incredibly unfun.

Btw expect to never hit a qte the first time in this game. Game is trash.

THANK YOU BRO. Knocked it down to easy and now it's not awful. My moves are all at level 10 now but I don't know what in the fuck is going on with the button assignments. This IS completely different to the first game, right? Are there even throws!? It's been ages since I played 1&2 (literally on the DC when they first came out) but it feels wrong.

Shenmue 1 and 2 have an assigned button for combat.

punch, kick, evade, throw.

Shenmue 3 does not have throws and there's no evade/dodge button.

The moves in Shenmue were logical. Pit blow is the first move you learn. You step forward and take a punch so the command is forward + P.

Later on you learn a move in a park by an old man where you can step forward at the same time as moving your hands for a powerful blow. It's called Double Blow. The command is forward + P + K at the same time because that's literally what Ryo is doing: moving his feet and making a hand blow at the same time.

In 3 the commands are random. Double blow is now L2+Square+Cross. Except that makes no sense and is hard af to remember because there's no dedicated kick or punch button.

I'm a Shenmue vet that has nearly every move memorized in my head across both games and I can't be assed to know more than 5 move commands in Shenmue 3.

Even worse, this went over to the QTE's as well. In a QTE, if Ryo punches you're going to press X (the punch button). Is he going to dodge and then kick? You're doing to hit left/right/up/down and then Kick (B). Things had a flow and made logical sense which is why Shenmue's qte's were so satisfying. That? That's detail. Now they're just random button prompts.

For a game made "for the fans" Shenmue III does not understand Shenmue.
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I CAN believe that it's bad!
Post by: Don Rumata on November 27, 2019, 03:02:10 AM

Engine is UE4, so that was free in the first place.
Shenmue was supposed to be what, 12, 9 parts? I doubt they could wrap it up in 4 anyway.

Costs money for support and they take a cut of whatever you make.
I know they take a cut of the profits, but it's still not an upfront cost.
In theory they could start Shenmue 4 in a garage "for free", is what i'm saying.
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Post by: Sho Nuff on November 27, 2019, 05:08:57 AM
Ahh, lemme weigh in on this. If you're starting a UE4 project at any degree of scale, you absolutely want to cut a deal with Epic ahead of time and make sure you've got a plan so you are eligible for official support on UDN (the private one -- NOT the public-facing forums that anyone can access). You -could- start a UE4 game in your garage, but definitely not if you were Square or something.
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I CAN believe that it's bad!
Post by: thisismyusername on November 27, 2019, 05:51:32 AM
So it sounds like this game is as bad as it looked?

Why didn't they re-use the virtua fighter combat which made the combat good in the originals (because VF is the bestest). Did Yu Suzuki not remember how to make the VF engine?

Probably not licensed by Sega (the actual owners of that).
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Post by: Bebpo on November 27, 2019, 06:04:21 AM
Dead or Alive isn't licensed either. There's nothing stopping Yu and the team from doing combat similar to VF unless they just don't remember  or have the skillset to do it anymore.
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I CAN believe that it's bad!
Post by: Don Rumata on November 27, 2019, 06:17:44 AM
Ahh, lemme weigh in on this. If you're starting a UE4 project at any degree of scale, you absolutely want to cut a deal with Epic ahead of time and make sure you've got a plan so you are eligible for official support on UDN (the private one -- NOT the public-facing forums that anyone can access). You -could- start a UE4 game in your garage, but definitely not if you were Square or something.
Maybe i had it wrong, but didn't they hire some modder that redid the Hazuki residence in UE4, as one of their modelers? I'm not sure they're running the biggest operation.
Then again, with all the external investors they got, maybe they did grow significantly bigger than i think.

EDIT: Officially 2 weeks since they allegedly shipped the copy, i'm starting to lose hope.  :fbm
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I CAN believe that it's bad!
Post by: Sho Nuff on November 27, 2019, 07:27:16 AM
This game fucking sucks
How many times do I need to bring liquor and buns to this old drunk fuck

Also ARE THERE UNBEATABLE BOSS FIGHTS? I had one health left on that big asshole who was beating up the old people and I THINK I got cutscened but I'm not sure

Oh great, while I was typing this and watching the cutscene the old drunk fuck just asked me for me to go get him some more liquor, when does this fucking game stop being endless fetch quests and start doing something interesting
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I CAN believe that it's bad!
Post by: Sho Nuff on November 27, 2019, 07:30:09 AM
oh jesus fucking christ the puzzle is literally LOOK THROUGH A BILLION SHELVES TO FIND THE RIGHT LIQUOR

this game can fucking suck it
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I CAN believe that it's bad!
Post by: Sho Nuff on November 27, 2019, 07:38:05 AM
Oh wait no that's a red herring, the answer is you have to buy it for 2000 yuan from another shop

I have 8 yuan now and get 40 yuan from jobs

I think I know the solution for this puzzle: uninstall the game or google for some Cheat Engine tables

BE RIGHT BACK

edit: 999,999 yuan is mine, 42 year olds dont have time to grind stupid bullshit
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I CAN believe that it's bad!
Post by: Svejk on November 27, 2019, 07:54:16 AM
edit: 999,999 yuan is mine, 42 year olds dont have time to grind stupid bullshit
:respect
And can whatever method be done on the PS4 version possibly?  I plan on tackling this game next and ain't got time for grinds either.
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I CAN believe that it's bad!
Post by: Sho Nuff on November 27, 2019, 08:06:30 AM
According to the internet you can use the fortuneteller to cheese some of the minigames. Game's still a friggin slog every step of the way
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I CAN believe that it's bad!
Post by: Sho Nuff on November 27, 2019, 08:22:16 AM
The amount of bullshit this videogame's characters make you go through is so hateful
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I CAN believe that it's bad!
Post by: thisismyusername on November 27, 2019, 10:48:55 AM
Dead or Alive isn't licensed either. There's nothing stopping Yu and the team from doing combat similar to VF unless they just don't remember  or have the skillset to do it anymore.

Sure. But DoA didn't literally rip out VF's engine, put it in another title and then run with it. :doge That's where I'm going with this, Yu took the combat engine of VF into Shenmue IIRC, which might be the problem. If he redid it himself, it wouldn't be a problem but probably expensive.

edit: 999,999 yuan is mine, 42 year olds dont have time to grind stupid bullshit
:respect
And can whatever method be done on the PS4 version possibly?  I plan on tackling this game next and ain't got time for grinds either.

It's Cheat Engine, so... no.
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I CAN believe that it's bad!
Post by: Svejk on November 27, 2019, 11:30:22 AM
Ah ok.  I wasn't familiar with Cheat Engine, so that's good to know... for when I actually get around to playing something on my PC.  :heh
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I CAN believe that it's bad!
Post by: Himu on November 27, 2019, 12:18:15 PM
I want to emphasize how bad the game is. 2000 yuan it takes to get the liquor for Sun.

I had like 1200 yuan and wanted to complete a capsule toy set that sells for 1000 yuan. I put in 600 BUCKS in that machine and didn't get this one particular Emerald toy. This game makes one specific toy for every machine rare as all fuck. They are essentially deliberately limiting your cash flow. The entire game is a grind.

Meanwhile, in Shenmue II you can sell the starter incomplete Virtua Fighter Kids toys collection which comes with Ryo at the beginning of the game for 400 HK. It's so easy to make cash in Shenmue II and these nutjobs went and fucked it.

Shonuff how long did it take you find Sun?

The shitty ass game kept saying,"oh he's at the market at specific times" and I talked to everyone, everyone except this one particular old lady. No one gave a damn answer on where the fucker was. It took DAYS to find him. Then I finally talked to her and she's like "oh he's at the abandoned temple". I went to the temple earlier and saw jack.

Game sucks shit, Yu Suzuki should retire, and Shenmue fans deserve to cry knowing there will never be a Shenmue IV.
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I CAN believe that it's bad!
Post by: Himu on November 27, 2019, 12:20:09 PM
AND YES THERE'S UNBEATEABLE BOSS FIGHTS. I BEAT THAT STUPID UGLY RED FUCK and this scrub aired out Ryo fucking HAZUKI (the same dude that took on 70 dudes at the harbor and beat Dou Niu) like a goddam BUM that was out for TWO DAYS  from a SINGLE. PUNCH. because I don't have the right move.

Fuck this game. I've been in Niaowu for days and have been playing Dark Souls instead. Dark Souls is less infuriating.
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I CAN believe that it's bad!
Post by: Svejk on November 27, 2019, 12:36:10 PM
Well shit... I may hold off to see if some balancing gets patched up before embarking on it..  fuck grinding.. If I waited 15 years for this, I can certainly wait longer.... I need to get back to BB anyway. 
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I CAN believe that it's bad!
Post by: Don Rumata on November 27, 2019, 02:40:31 PM
Cindi you seem to be going back and forth on the game.
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I CAN believe that it's bad!
Post by: Himu on November 27, 2019, 03:18:39 PM
Cindi you seem to be going back and forth on the game.

How so?

When I first posted about it I liked it because I was thinking of the positive, but I have been overwhelmingly negative in my impressions. I've also held back my opinions in full. One post full of negative impressions was deleted. 

Back and forth how?

Shenmue III is a bad game. It's also a bad Shenmue game, which is a totally separate thing.

There are are only two things I suggest Shenmue fans experience with the game (Shenhua chats at night and phone calls to friends in Niaowu). Both of which can be experienced by watching a Let's Play.

Don't buy Shenmue III. It's trash.
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I CAN believe that it's bad!
Post by: Himu on November 27, 2019, 03:30:08 PM
Imagine waiting for 10+ years for a story you've wanted continuation of.

The story is at 40% at the end of Shenmue II according to Yu Suzuki. Shenmue III might as well have moved the story from 40% to 41%. That's how little anything happens. Game is booty cheeks. If anything, I'm holding back on the mother fucker.

Yu Suzuki really tried to shop this POS game for over ten years only to give his fans fetch quests. It is the most pointless video game sequel ever made. Yearly Madden games have more merit.
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I CAN believe that it's bad!
Post by: Occam on November 27, 2019, 05:16:53 PM
That sucks, I feel sorry for the fans, and now am glad I never got into this. I played the first game for about an hour back on Dreamcast and then stopped because I found it boring.
Maybe Suzuki never had any real plan how to continue the story.

Btw, metascore is 70 at the moment...
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I CAN believe that it's bad!
Post by: Bebpo on November 27, 2019, 07:33:09 PM
Imagine waiting for 10+ years for a story you've wanted continuation of.

The story is at 40% at the end of Shenmue II according to Yu Suzuki. Shenmue III might as well have moved the story from 40% to 41%. That's how little anything happens. Game is booty cheeks. If anything, I'm holding back on the mother fucker.

Yu Suzuki really tried to shop this POS game for over ten years only to give his fans fetch quests. It is the most pointless video game sequel ever made. Yearly Madden games have more merit.

I fucking love Shenmue I & II but this whole kickstarter has seemed shady af and so I've never jumped in and waited to see if it surprisingly turned out decent. Forget Yu Suzuki. Games aren't made by 1 person and Ys Net? Neilo? These devs sure aren't AM2 pedigree.

This whole thing seemed like a "we don't know what we're doing but fans will give us money so let's dinker around and try to make a small budget game" bleh.

If they announced a new Suikoden with Murayama writing but developed by some random people on a shoestring budget and decided to go 3d I'd be just as hesitant. These days for kickstarters I don't care about the big name lead, I care about the dev team making it. If they've made consistent good games in a timely fashion I'll trust they can make something good with the premise. But even then you get stuff like Shadowrun Dragonfall/HK -> Battletech  :'(  So always gonna be some luck involved.
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I CAN believe that it's bad!
Post by: Sho Nuff on November 27, 2019, 10:43:20 PM
Shonuff how long did it take you find Sun?

I lucked out. I wound up learning about him BEFORE I got merked by that horribly rendered red fuck in the UNWINNABLE BOSS FIGHT. Then I was like "Oh I bet that's the guy with the secret sauce, he'll probably teach me a move"

That being said, I assumed the boss fight WAS winnable and I was going down a side track, but then when it kept fuckin' GOING, AND GOING, I realized oh no.

I feel like that sequence had a little bit of charm, but then it would ask you to keep doing the same fuckin' thing over and over, and the QTE's were balanced by a giant asshole so catching the chickens -- which might be fun ONCE -- is ruined by the shittiest fuckin timing windows, and I'm playing it on the PC for godsake at 60fps.

So I went to Elder Yeh's house and the game was like "FIND THE SIX TOKENS" and I was like "oh no, I'm going to have to fuck around in town to find more bullshit," but then she's like "HERE ARE ALL THE CABINETS IN MY HOUSE PLEASE FIND THE SHIT INSIDE SOME OF THEM LOL" and I was like "Ooooookay it's walkthrough time"

Nobody on their deathbed is going to say "boy I wish I spent more time playing Shenmue III"
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I CAN believe that it's bad!
Post by: Sho Nuff on November 27, 2019, 10:55:42 PM
One thing I'd like to mention is that Shenmue I and II had HUGE writing teams. If you look at the credits it's like two dozen people. I used to hang out with a guy who wrote the character profiles for all of the Shenmue II NPCs and his work was so nuts that they made a book that's basically a collection of all the characters and their relationships. Something tells me those folks didn't come back for #3.

It's weird, my memory fails me but I remember going out to dinner with a guy who was the Sega-side director for Shen Mue Online; he'd worked on the two games (writing or director team) and they had modeled Dou Niu after him or he'd done his motion acting for him (???). Big stocky guy. Anyway, we were just gonna hang out at an izakaya, but coincidentally THAT DAY they CANCELLED THE GAME. So uh, we drank a lot more than expected.

Also my first boss in Japan had worked on Shenmue on Saturn. He made a spider for Akira to fight, and Yu Suzuki was like "what, he fights a spider?". That's all he remembered.
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I CAN believe that it's bad!
Post by: Himu on November 27, 2019, 11:45:03 PM
Dude I told you the QTE'S are bs

And I lost to the buff red haired dude and went immediately to Sun but you can't learn the move so you have to fucking do another dragged out fetch quest asking about fucking martial artists to train Ryo when he just met an old man that knocked his ass to the grass with one move. If you go there Sun won't be at the temple but you'll go on a stupid quest which sends you to Sun at the end anyways. Pure filler.

Shit game.
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I CAN believe that it's bad!
Post by: team filler on November 28, 2019, 12:33:26 AM
 :-[
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I CAN believe that it's bad!
Post by: BIONIC on November 28, 2019, 12:55:34 AM
Pure filler :mouf
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I CAN believe that it's bad!
Post by: Trent Dole on November 28, 2019, 02:11:54 AM
Man it's more than kind of a bummer that this turned out to be hot garbage.
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I CAN believe that it's bad!
Post by: Sho Nuff on November 28, 2019, 05:40:09 AM
Cindi how far am I in this piece of shit game

I just got the 6 tokens, how much longer until

1. I get out of this hick village and into the city
2. The game is fucking over

Keeping in mind that I fucking cheated and have infinite moneys so anything that's gated by money isn't an issue
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I CAN believe that it's bad!
Post by: Don Rumata on November 28, 2019, 08:30:53 AM

How so?
Wasn't meant to be an accusation, just that in a couple of previous comments it seemed like you were enjoying the vibes of the game more.

My copy came in finally, btw.
Ironically i spent the free time i had playing Control, so i'll get to it when i can.
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I CAN believe that it's bad!
Post by: Himu on November 28, 2019, 11:30:45 AM
The problem is that the game has a little good (talking with Shenhua at night) surrounded by shit.

Shonuff I don't know. I talked with pals about it and Niaowu is halfway through the game. I haven't played in days. The game depresses me too much. I'll probably be back at it soon because as bad as the game is I have to see this through even if I'd rather play dark souls

Once you have the six tokens you go to the tower and see some pointless drek then go to the next city.

The story revelation? Oh, the mirrors were made for hiding Royal treasure. BUT WE ALREADY KNOE THIS.

RYO EVEN MENTIONS IT TO SHENHUA DURING A CONVERSATION AT NIGHT.

And yet the main "revelation" is exactly that.

Before you complete the guilin part I suggest watching this cutscene from II to EMPHASIZE how utterly pointless the point of the Bailu section of the game is. It literally provided NO NEW INFORMATION AND PRETNDS SHENMUE II DID NOT EXIST.

https://youtu.be/V9F5vROqpwk

Facts:

1. We already know that Sunming Zhao is Lan Di's father.
2. We already know that the mirrors contain a treasure map. This is why Ryo went to Guilin to begin with.
3. These two Revelations are the only things revealed in the entirety of the Bailu section relevant to plot.

What was the big deal about the damn bridge? Who cares about a BRIDGE? ASK ABOUT THE DRAGON AND PHOENIX ON THE FLAGS THEY WAVED.

Most pointless game sequel ever.
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I CAN believe that it's bad!
Post by: thisismyusername on November 28, 2019, 12:32:19 PM
Can someone check in on the Youtuber that freaked out at E3? What's his name? Boseman? He might need to be on suicide watch with how Cindy-sama is reacting.

This dude:
(http://i.imgur.com/aAMn22R.gif)
Title: Re: The REAL Shenmue III thread
Post by: thisismyusername on November 28, 2019, 12:37:03 PM
Nothing gives me life more than looking back at how foolish Himu was.

I also miss Shaka.  :'(
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I CAN believe that it's bad!
Post by: Don Rumata on November 28, 2019, 01:06:51 PM
Can someone check in on the Youtuber that freaked out at E3? What's his name? Boseman? He might need to be on suicide watch with how Cindy-sama is reacting.

This dude:
(http://i.imgur.com/aAMn22R.gif)
100% Huber will love it.
He even said he doesn't want to review it because of that.
Besides, he calls every other game a 10 out of 10.
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I CAN believe that it's bad!
Post by: Chooky on November 28, 2019, 01:30:33 PM
"a ton of filler bullshit" as a complaint seems weird because that's like 90% of shenmue anyways? i still want to see this game for myself real bad but i think i'll wait because i'm sure it won't hold a high price for long.
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I CAN believe that it's bad!
Post by: Himu on November 28, 2019, 01:45:31 PM
"a ton of filler bullshit" as a complaint seems weird because that's like 90% of shenmue anyways?

Not in Shenmue II it isn't.
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I CAN believe that it's bad!
Post by: Bebpo on November 28, 2019, 02:00:58 PM
Yeah, Shenmue I was a groundbreaking life sim, II was a kickass adventure game that paved the way for stuff like Yakuza/RGG. III should've taken some cues from Yakuza/RGG since there's been a lot of innovation in the genre since Shenmue II.
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I CAN believe that it's bad!
Post by: Himu on November 28, 2019, 02:07:12 PM
Yeah, Shenmue I was a groundbreaking life sim, II was a kickass adventure game that paved the way for stuff like Yakuza/RGG. III should've taken some cues from Yakuza/RGG since there's been a lot of innovation in the genre since Shenmue II.

Yu proudly flaunts that he doesn't play games.

You can tell that by playing Shenmue III.
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I CAN believe that it's bad!
Post by: Svejk on November 28, 2019, 04:28:15 PM
Well, y'all officially deterred me from wanting to play this now...  :doge
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I CAN believe that it's bad!
Post by: thisismyusername on November 28, 2019, 04:40:25 PM
Yu proudly flaunts that he doesn't play games.

:goty2 No wonder his games aren't that fun to play. :goty2
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I CAN believe that it's bad!
Post by: Himu on November 28, 2019, 05:56:12 PM
Yu proudly flaunts that he doesn't play games.

:goty2 No wonder his games aren't that fun to play. :goty2

Silly statement to make. It's clear he means in the past decade. Calling virtua fighter and other classics not fun is bad enough to revoke your gamer card
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I CAN believe that it's bad!
Post by: thisismyusername on November 28, 2019, 06:03:07 PM
Outrun and Daytona are the only memorable Yu titles. :goty2

I mean, I guess Rent-A-Hero, as well... maybe. But everything else is forgettable or just plain bad/not that fun to play (Space Harrier)
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I CAN believe that it's bad!
Post by: Bebpo on November 28, 2019, 07:48:06 PM
VF4 Evo/VF5 still the best fighting game ever.

Though I’m not sure how much he still had to do with the series. VF2 was incredibly good and genre defining.
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I CAN believe that it's bad!
Post by: Svejk on November 28, 2019, 08:10:33 PM
Fighters Megamix  :lawd
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I CAN believe that it's bad!
Post by: Chooky on November 28, 2019, 08:24:01 PM
shenmue 2 is amazing but it still has plenty of grinding for cash and doing chores and whatnot. they succeeded in making a lot of it fun, but there was still a fair amount of padding.
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I CAN believe that it's bad!
Post by: Himu on November 28, 2019, 08:59:55 PM
shenmue 2 is amazing but it still has plenty of grinding for cash and doing chores and whatnot. they succeeded in making a lot of it fun, but there was still a fair amount of padding.

Chores that are still tied to the story. The padding we are talking about in II and III are very different. In III everything is a grind. II has some padding but III is all padding. It takes multiple days to unlock the full area of Bailu for instance.
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I CAN believe that it's bad!
Post by: Don Rumata on November 29, 2019, 05:18:48 AM
VF4 Evo/VF5 still the best fighting game ever.

Though I’m not sure how much he still had to do with the series. VF2 was incredibly good and genre defining.
I'm not a fighting game guy, but VF4 and 5 were so fun, only the first Soul Calibur, i enjoyed more.
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I CAN believe that it's bad!
Post by: Bebpo on November 29, 2019, 05:31:05 AM
I was thinking today how bullshit it is that like every major 90s/00s fighter is still alive except VF. Tekken, Dead or Alive, Soul Calibur, Street Fighter, Guilty Gear, King of Fighters, Mortal Kombat. Pretty sad that VF is the only one that just died off since it was amazing. Sega really screwed up there.
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I CAN believe that it's bad!
Post by: Sho Nuff on November 29, 2019, 09:16:41 AM
 God the city in this game fucking sucks, it's like a billion shops all lined up
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I CAN believe that it's bad!
Post by: Pissy F Benny on November 29, 2019, 10:26:19 AM
Some of the face models in this are nightmarish, mainly the men, what the fuck. Every story beat dude I’ve encountered looks like they’ve got giant facial tumours so far.
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I CAN believe that it's bad!
Post by: Sho Nuff on November 29, 2019, 10:34:53 AM
WHY CAN'T I FUCKING EVER COMPLETE A SINGLE GODDAMN QTE THE FIRST TIME AROUND, WHAT IS WRONG WITH THE TIMING WINDOWS ON THIS SHIT
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I CAN believe that it's bad!
Post by: Himu on November 29, 2019, 10:38:55 AM
WHY CAN'T I FUCKING EVER COMPLETE A SINGLE GODDAMN QTE THE FIRST TIME AROUND, WHAT IS WRONG WITH THE TIMING WINDOWS ON THIS SHIT

You did the qte where the fortune teller was harassed by the dude didn't you?

Truly terrible :lol
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I CAN believe that it's bad!
Post by: Sho Nuff on November 29, 2019, 10:57:44 AM
That was the one

I also found the SAVE SHENMUE building, what in the god damn actual fuck, they should have called that place THE HALL OF REGRET instead
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I CAN believe that it's bad!
Post by: TVC15 on November 29, 2019, 09:29:56 PM
If you could compare Shenmue 3 to another major franchise disappointment, what would it be? Is it Star Wars prequel bad? Is there something even worse? TLJ?
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I CAN believe that it's bad!
Post by: Svejk on November 29, 2019, 11:12:58 PM
Like.. the 3rd Matrix bad, or more like RoboCop 3 bad?
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I CAN believe that it's bad!
Post by: mormapope on November 30, 2019, 12:10:21 AM
If you could compare Shenmue 3 to another major franchise disappointment, what would it be? Is it Star Wars prequel bad? Is there something even worse? TLJ?

Rocky V.
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I CAN believe that it's bad!
Post by: Sho Nuff on November 30, 2019, 12:29:58 AM
Imagine a new chapter in Star Wars made by someone who had 1/8th the budget and hadn't seen any new movies since 1977.

And imagine there being constant, distracting, completely out-of-place cameos in the background from the people who donated money to get it made.

I'm fucking done with this piece of shit game for now. I'm stuck trying to get a VIP pass for some club. I know who I have to get it from but I can't trigger the sequence of events required to get them to show up somewhere. Fuck this game, I'm going to go play some Budget Cuts in the Vive my buddy gave me and then play Diablo 3 for the first time.
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I CAN believe that it's bad!
Post by: Himu on November 30, 2019, 01:28:12 AM
If you could compare Shenmue 3 to another major franchise disappointment, what would it be? Is it Star Wars prequel bad? Is there something even worse? TLJ?

Imagine if Star Wars fans had to wait almost twenty years for TLJ and you have Shenmue III: a plodding mess with the occasional good idea.
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I CAN believe that it's bad!
Post by: Don Rumata on November 30, 2019, 06:05:15 AM
Imagine a new chapter in Star Wars made by someone who had 1/8th the budget and hadn't seen any new movies since 1977.

And imagine there being constant, distracting, completely out-of-place cameos in the background from the people who donated money to get it made.

I'm fucking done with this piece of shit game for now. I'm stuck trying to get a VIP pass for some club. I know who I have to get it from but I can't trigger the sequence of events required to get them to show up somewhere. Fuck this game, I'm going to go play some Budget Cuts in the Vive my buddy gave me and then play Diablo 3 for the first time.
This is one thing i was worried about. I hate this shit in KS games. :yuck
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I CAN believe that it's bad!
Post by: Svejk on November 30, 2019, 10:45:35 AM
I hate that shit too. I didn't realize how much of a thing that is.  I will never support a game on KS again if this becomes practically mandatory.   :nope
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I CAN believe that it's bad!
Post by: Bebpo on November 30, 2019, 11:22:16 AM
Imagine a new chapter in Star Wars made by someone who had 1/8th the budget and hadn't seen any new movies since 1977.

And imagine there being constant, distracting, completely out-of-place cameos in the background from the people who donated money to get it made.

I'm fucking done with this piece of shit game for now. I'm stuck trying to get a VIP pass for some club. I know who I have to get it from but I can't trigger the sequence of events required to get them to show up somewhere. Fuck this game, I'm going to go play some Budget Cuts in the Vive my buddy gave me and then play Diablo 3 for the first time.
This is one thing i was worried about. I hate this shit in KS games. :yuck

I thought it was handled ok in Bloodstained with the flying paintings. Didn't bother me.
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I CAN believe that it's bad!
Post by: Himu on November 30, 2019, 11:54:56 AM
lmao wrong thread
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I CAN believe that it's bad!
Post by: Sho Nuff on November 30, 2019, 10:22:51 PM
The worst part is when s character is like 'Hey you seriously should go into the next room, there's something important in there" and it turns out to be filled with kickstarter bonus garbage
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I CAN believe that it's bad!
Post by: bork on December 02, 2019, 04:19:23 PM
https://youtu.be/MI9EISn8K0Q
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I CAN believe that it's bad!
Post by: Himu on December 02, 2019, 04:36:35 PM
That video was as much of a waste of time as playing Shenmue III. A recap of 20 year old facts everyone knew about.

Fuck Shenmue and Yu Suzuki but we didn't need to know Shenmue life story, Jim.
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I CAN believe that it's bad!
Post by: nachobro on December 02, 2019, 04:43:01 PM
must have been a high upvote thread about shenmue on r/games so he had to make a video to steal the comments from it :doge
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I CAN believe that it's bad!
Post by: Tasty on December 02, 2019, 05:08:48 PM
Most of his viewers weren't born when Shenmoo 1 and 2 came out Cindy, long recaps pad length ($$$) and satisfy the smooth playdoh brained viewers.
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I CAN believe that it's bad!
Post by: Himu on December 02, 2019, 10:06:44 PM
Wack.
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I CAN believe that it's bad!
Post by: Himu on December 02, 2019, 10:39:02 PM
Guys when I beat Shenmue III I don't ever want Shenmue mentioned in my presence again. They are no longer my favorite games. Mario Odyssey is now. It's a me, nicca!!!
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I CAN believe that it's bad!
Post by: team filler on December 03, 2019, 01:18:16 AM
 :D
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I CAN believe that it's bad!
Post by: Coax on December 03, 2019, 02:05:23 AM
Most of his viewers weren't born when Shenmoo 1 and 2 came out Cindy, long recaps pad length ($$$) and satisfy the smooth playdoh brained viewers.

To my knowledge The Jimquisition series aren't monetized (also checked on mobile without an adblocker and didn't see any). Read a while back that his other videos are though?
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I CAN believe that it's bad!
Post by: Don Rumata on December 03, 2019, 07:04:49 AM
Guys when I beat Shenmue III I don't ever want Shenmue mentioned in my presence again. They are no longer my favorite games. Mario Odyssey is now. It's a me, nicca!!!
I don't get it.
Shenmue 3 could literally give me a kidney stone, and Shenmue 1 would still be one of the best games i've played.  ::)
Otherwise i'd have to hate Silent Hill 1 through 4 with a passion, given the fact that i've even seen that one second movie they made. :yuck
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I CAN believe that it's bad!
Post by: Tasty on December 03, 2019, 08:47:51 AM
Most of his viewers weren't born when Shenmoo 1 and 2 came out Cindy, long recaps pad length ($$$) and satisfy the smooth playdoh brained viewers.

To my knowledge The Jimquisition series aren't monetized (also checked on mobile without an adblocker and didn't see any). Read a while back that his other videos are though?

Damn called out  :duh
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I CAN believe that it's bad!
Post by: bork on December 03, 2019, 08:59:49 AM
Most of his viewers weren't born when Shenmoo 1 and 2 came out Cindy, long recaps pad length ($$$) and satisfy the smooth playdoh brained viewers.

To my knowledge The Jimquisition series aren't monetized (also checked on mobile without an adblocker and didn't see any). Read a while back that his other videos are though?

Not sure if any of his stuff gets monetized anymore- I know he used to talk about not caring and just using other means like Patreon for money.

Edit: Seems like he's doing pretty well- 6,900 patrons with $12,759 a month.

A couple of years ago he posted about how he came up with a "copyright deadlock" system to stop his videos from being flagged and taken down.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cK8i6aMG9VM
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Post by: HardcoreRetro on December 03, 2019, 09:16:15 AM
Otherwise i'd have to hate Silent Hill 1 through 4 with a passion, given the fact that i've even seen that one second movie they made. :yuck

Good guy pyramid head operating the merry-go-round for the kids was great. The pop tart jumpscare. Jon Snow's acting ability.

Great halloween movie.
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Post by: toku on December 03, 2019, 12:41:58 PM
https://twitter.com/angryangryd/status/1201789713671184385
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Post by: Coax on December 03, 2019, 06:21:39 PM
Damn called out  :duh

It's not a big deal :P What's interesting is seeing ongoing user-funded models becoming so much more mainstream in the last few years, where like 8-10 years ago despite ad-supported models being critiqued and alternative models being suggested it obviously didn't seem as viable.
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Post by: nachobro on December 04, 2019, 08:30:52 AM
https://twitter.com/ClementJ64/status/1201959070103678976 :lol
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Post by: Sho Nuff on December 05, 2019, 10:15:05 AM
I'm back on this fucking piece of shit game

I just met the leader of the Red Snakes and then I beat the fuck out of him by spamming GROUND KICK and he never touched me

Then he punched me in the face during a cutscene and I went back to Shenhua all like "UUNNGHHHH THE RED SNAKES ARE SO STRONNNNNNNNNG"

Fuck this piece of shit game
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Post by: Tasty on December 05, 2019, 10:41:28 AM
https://twitter.com/ClementJ64/status/1201959070103678976 :lol

Man even Himuro Plinko had a tilt feature :doge
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Post by: Sho Nuff on December 05, 2019, 10:53:20 AM
I found Ren from Shenmue 2 and I was like "Bro help I got beaten up in a cutscene after kicking this dude's ass" and Ren is like "OK RYO even though we were buddies in the last game and i was a dick to you when I was introduced to you 20 minutes ago, let's go whoop some ass"

So we went back to the same place and beat the shit out of everyone

Then once that was done we both got the shit kicked out of us by the same guy in another cutscene

Now Ryo and Ren are sitting on the dock going "WE NEED TO LEARN KUNG FU, WHERE ARE THERE MARTIAL ARTS MASTERS?"

What a great fun video game
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Post by: Joe Molotov on December 05, 2019, 11:13:24 AM
I found Ren from Shenmue 2 and I was like "Bro help I got beaten up in a cutscene after kicking this dude's ass" and Ren is like "OK RYO even though we were buddies in the last game and i was a dick to you when I was introduced to you 20 minutes ago, let's go whoop some ass"

So we went back to the same place and beat the shit out of everyone

Then once that was done we both got the shit kicked out of us by the same guy in another cutscene

Now Ryo and Ren are sitting on the dock going "WE NEED TO LEARN KUNG FU, WHERE ARE THERE MARTIAL ARTS MASTERS?"

What a great fun video game

Such ludonarrative harmony, just what you'd expect from the master.
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Post by: Svejk on December 05, 2019, 11:22:20 AM
I'm thinking now I'm gonna wait on S3 until whether S4 will happen or not....  Because if it's a no go, I'd rather just stick with my memories of S1 & 2.
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Post by: Himu on December 05, 2019, 12:57:22 PM
Just replay Shenmue II. III is a worse version of it anyhow. In fact, the ending in II is enough. That's our Shenmue ending. Leave it open ended.

Also I haven't met Ren yet and from what I've heard, he isn't even surprised to see Ren. Ren and Ryo make the best duo ever but I'm worried even that will suck.
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Post by: Sho Nuff on December 06, 2019, 12:14:39 AM
When you meet Ren he's like "oh whatever, hey Ryo, I totally forgot about the super fuckin awesome adventure we just had, fuck off"

This game isn't Shenmue
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Post by: Himu on December 06, 2019, 12:30:23 AM
When you meet Ren he's like "oh whatever, hey Ryo, I totally forgot about the super fuckin awesome adventure we just had, fuck off"

This game isn't Shenmue

The game pretends Shenmue II doesn't exist. It's fucking terrible. Yu Suzuki really tried to make a sequel to II for over a decade only to pretend it doesn't exist. Why does Shenmue III even exist? It's the most pointless sequel ever.
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Post by: HardcoreRetro on December 06, 2019, 10:49:47 AM
More like ShenBOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
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Post by: Himu on December 06, 2019, 11:33:13 AM
Speaking of time waster youtube videos (re: jimquisition explaining what Shenmue is and its history) what the fuck is up with these youtubers making long winded videos explaining shit most people clicking already know about? Take this video. I click because I want to know about the the Recess episode, spends ridiculous amount of time talking about how Community is a ripoff of Recess instead of the pertinent Disney episode in question. The dumbass could have made the Community parallel its own goddamn video but nah, he had to fit into a completely different topic. And of course, the run time of the video is nearly 20 fucking minutes.

Modern youtube is dog shit. Fuck.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jLdcFnAbohY
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Post by: nachobro on December 06, 2019, 12:25:50 PM
because videos over 10 min bring in more dough
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Post by: Himu on December 06, 2019, 12:38:59 PM
Sure but that video is 18 minutes and he could summarize the monopoly ep in 10. Instead he goes full autism
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Post by: nachobro on December 06, 2019, 12:58:32 PM
The longer the video, the more ads can be put in it. It's lead to a bunch of pointlessly long garbage videos on every topic.
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Post by: Himu on December 06, 2019, 02:04:04 PM
How does dunkey make money with 4 minute long vids then
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Post by: Rufus on December 06, 2019, 02:08:15 PM
He's popular enough that the amount of views he gets makes up for it.

But then he's also selling merch now, so maybe it isn't working out as well for him any more.
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Post by: nachobro on December 06, 2019, 02:26:28 PM
yeah, the merch probably points to pre-roll ads not bringing in as much as before
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Post by: Bebpo on December 06, 2019, 07:06:55 PM
fwiw, on Era I took a peek and everyone is praising this game as "I can't believe this turned out so good and how much game they managed with their budget <3 <3 <3" and it's mostly positive and praise and group elation.
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Post by: Himu on December 06, 2019, 10:02:58 PM
They're fanboys and fangirls
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Post by: Chooky on December 06, 2019, 10:43:34 PM
yeah generally what i've heard from people that enjoyed the originals is that this is a faithful followup, warts and all
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Post by: thisismyusername on December 06, 2019, 11:42:07 PM
https://twitter.com/GameDataLibrary/status/1199685423460749312

Big oof. Going Epic exclusive killed them, to the surprise of NOBODY.
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Post by: Rufus on December 06, 2019, 11:46:15 PM
Was PC supposed to be the main platform? :lol I know you hate the EGS, but that's bending things a little too far.
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Post by: Himu on December 07, 2019, 01:01:13 AM
RIP Shenmue.
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Post by: Sho Nuff on December 07, 2019, 01:30:30 AM
https://twitter.com/GameDataLibrary/status/1199685423460749312

Big oof. Going Epic exclusive killed them, to the surprise of NOBODY.

PC sales are a non factor in Japan tbh
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Post by: Himu on December 07, 2019, 01:33:12 AM
Also ps4 game sales in japan are down across the board.
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Post by: Bebpo on December 07, 2019, 03:12:04 AM
fwiw I was under the impression no one in Japan cares about Shenmue in 2019 and the fanbase is mostly western at this point. Don't think they were expecting much from the JP sales.
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Post by: Sho Nuff on December 07, 2019, 05:18:01 AM
I'm about to get on the boat to go to murder island and hopefully wrap up this piece of shit game
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Post by: Don Rumata on December 07, 2019, 09:14:45 AM
Was PC supposed to be the main platform? :lol I know you hate the EGS, but that's bending things a little too far.
Yeah, as we said in the past pages, Shenmue died years ago.
This was just very expensive reminiscing.
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Post by: Himu on December 07, 2019, 09:36:23 AM
Fangamer sent me a SECOND copy of this game to remind me of its failure despite me CANCELLING my second copy for pc for a refund
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Post by: Sho Nuff on December 08, 2019, 09:35:15 AM
That's it, the credits are rolling, I'm done.

That was godawful, and as Cindi points out, the most pointless sequel ever made. I will have unmarked spoilers here but I don't think anyone gives a shit so here we go:

- The evil redhead who is like HO HO HO NOW I CONTROL THE CHI YOU MEN: What the fuck? Who the fuck is this? Why do I care? What's her relationship to Lan Di?
- Wreck-it Ralph and the shrine maiden: What a goddamn stupid cutscene that was (you know the one).
- Ren's character: ALL OVER the place. Why is he even in this game?
- Chai: He's fucking terrifying in the first game, he isn't in the second game, and he's back in this to say KEE KEE KEE! NIHON JIN YOWAI! and get tooled in a bunch of bad QTEs.
- The fight against the Kickstarter backers: FUCK this.
- The fight against Lan Di: wow I've really come far in my training since Shenmue I.
- The ending: Well, that's the ending to Shenmue because they aren't making any more after this trainwreck.

This is the one and only line I actually LOL'ed at in the script. Ryo finally gets a clue:
https://youtu.be/RI8SC_9USWw?t=81 (https://youtu.be/RI8SC_9USWw?t=81)
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Post by: Don Rumata on December 08, 2019, 10:05:34 AM
Reminder that i paid 200$ for this.  :lol


Still gonna play it, though. :'(
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Post by: Himu on December 08, 2019, 10:20:01 AM
Same
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Post by: Tasty on December 08, 2019, 11:25:54 AM
$100 and I may never play it lol :awesome
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Post by: Tasty on December 08, 2019, 11:26:51 AM
23 year old Tasty was kind of an idiot
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Post by: demi on December 08, 2019, 02:31:00 PM
I think this is maybe one of few games where the final boss is unbeatable lol
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Post by: Bebpo on December 08, 2019, 03:27:18 PM
I think this is maybe one of few games where the final boss is unbeatable lol

As you are always keen to tell everyone else in other games demi,

git gud
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Post by: Bebpo on December 08, 2019, 03:28:26 PM
- The fight against the Kickstarter backers: FUCK this.

Wait, whaaaaaaaaaaaaaat. You fight Kickstarter backers? :rofl
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Post by: Svejk on December 08, 2019, 03:51:42 PM
Soooo are there any (good) Sega arcade games in this at all??
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Post by: Himu on December 08, 2019, 03:59:15 PM
Soooo are there any (good) Sega arcade games in this at all??

:rofl
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Post by: demi on December 08, 2019, 04:27:12 PM
I think this is maybe one of few games where the final boss is unbeatable lol

As you are always keen to tell everyone else in other games demi,

git gud

As you are always keen to not read,

You literally can't beat the last boss

https://youtu.be/RI8SC_9USWw?t=81
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Post by: HardcoreRetro on December 08, 2019, 05:13:38 PM
That thumbnail picture is perfect.
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Post by: Trent Dole on December 08, 2019, 05:26:30 PM
Oh so this ends like Zone of the Enders did huh? I remember being really annoyed at that shit. RIP Shenmue.
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Post by: HardcoreRetro on December 10, 2019, 05:52:09 AM
I can't believe Yo Toyota fucked this up.
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Post by: Pissy F Benny on May 23, 2020, 04:34:08 PM
lol I was just looking for something and come across my copy of this, how the fuck did Shenmue 3 come out and end up being one of the most forgettable games of all time? :lol

It’s the vidya equivalent of Netflix mod series bloat :neogaf
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Post by: Don Rumata on May 23, 2020, 05:12:19 PM
My ps4 copy is still plastic wrapped.
I paid 200 dollars for the KS, and it's like a trauma i'm trying to remove from my brain.   :stahp
If only i could go back in time to 2015, and break both my hands with a hammer, before i click.

At some point i'll cave and play through it tho.  :doge
It can't be that bad...
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Post by: Rufus on May 23, 2020, 05:23:56 PM
Your pain amuses me greatly, fwiw.
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Post by: Pissy F Benny on May 23, 2020, 05:46:01 PM
My ps4 copy is still plastic wrapped.
I paid 200 dollars for the KS, and it's like a trauma i'm trying to remove from my brain.   :stahp
If only i could go back in time to 2015, and break both my hands with a hammer, before i click.

At some point i'll cave and play through it tho.  :doge
It can't be that bad...

To play it’s true to form Shenmue

spoiler (click to show/hide)
just nothing really happens in it story wise
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Post by: Don Rumata on May 23, 2020, 06:08:32 PM
So it's Shenmue's El Camino.  ::)
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Post by: thisismyusername on May 23, 2020, 06:43:46 PM
But things DID happen in El Camino...

spoiler (click to show/hide)
Jessie got away and lived on a farm in upstate Alaska.
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Post by: Himu on May 23, 2020, 07:31:23 PM
SHENMUE III SUCKS
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Post by: Don Rumata on May 23, 2020, 08:59:13 PM
But things DID happen in El Camino...

spoiler (click to show/hide)
Jessie got away and lived on a farm in upstate Alaska.
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Which was already implied in the series
spoiler (click to show/hide)
(he talks about going to Alaska). And we don't even SEE that, we see 2 hours of him getting some money to get out of town.
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Post by: thisismyusername on May 23, 2020, 09:30:47 PM
But things DID happen in El Camino...

spoiler (click to show/hide)
Jessie got away and lived on a farm in upstate Alaska.
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Which was already implied in the series
spoiler (click to show/hide)
(he talks about going to Alaska). And we don't even SEE that, we see 2 hours of him getting some money to get out of town.
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Sure, but it's a continuation toward that goal. Last we see Jessie, he's driving like a bat out of hell finally free.

spoiler (click to show/hide)
Which then turns into "he's not as free as he thinks since he's still tied to Walt. Even though he wanted to get away (hence Mike's "go to Alaska" dream that he took on) the FBI/Albuquerque PD is after him. Hence, El Camino's "need money to get away and change ID to not have the heat on him" adventure.
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Post by: Himu on September 26, 2020, 01:16:43 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FpNAKDx4CwY

most disappointing game i've ever played in my life
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Post by: Pissy F Benny on September 26, 2020, 02:44:55 PM
Being a bit dated, shitty and janky would have been fine considering the low budget and it being a sequel to a 20 year old series but barely moving the story on at all was disgraceful imo :trumps
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Post by: Trent Dole on September 26, 2020, 02:52:27 PM
There's probably not going to be a Shenmue IV huh.
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Post by: Coffee Dog on September 26, 2020, 02:54:30 PM
They just had to copy Shenmue 2..  After beating the first two I figured I'd take a long break before I played 3, but now I won't bother because it just seems worse than it's 20 year old predecessors in every way :stahp
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Post by: Himu on September 26, 2020, 03:00:27 PM
they pretend shenmue II doesn't exist. it's HAIR PULLING.:stop

There's probably not going to be a Shenmue IV huh.

I hope not.
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Post by: Svejk on September 26, 2020, 04:02:09 PM
they pretend shenmue II doesn't exist. it's HAIR PULLING.:stop

There's probably not going to be a Shenmue IV huh.

I hope not.
I was so close to forgetting that this existed until you brought it up again.  :stahp

However, I feel for you because you, among others, took one for the team..  After reading y'alls impressions in this thread, it sounds like a total shower of sadness shit show.  :tocry
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Post by: Pissy F Benny on September 26, 2020, 04:35:02 PM
The ending wound me up big time

spoiler (click to show/hide)
im thinking Yeah baby let’s go to this new castle or whatever and whip some ass, but lol no the cutscene on the boat ends and then the games finished :tocry
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Post by: thisismyusername on September 26, 2020, 05:24:44 PM
but barely moving the story on at all was disgraceful imo :trumps

Yu really thinks he can get 8 games out of this stone. :girlaff
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Post by: Pissy F Benny on September 26, 2020, 05:30:58 PM
If he pumps out another 5 games of 15-20 hours of running around in circles barely pushing the story forward with an hour (being generous here) of plot development he can :rash
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Post by: thisismyusername on September 26, 2020, 05:41:02 PM
Holy shit, the Hunger Mechanic. :neogaf

I know he wants it to be "immersive." But goddamn, sometimes Good Game Design trumps tedium.
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Post by: Joe Molotov on September 26, 2020, 06:56:29 PM
Holy shit, the Hunger Mechanic. :neogaf

I know he wants it to be "immersive." But goddamn, sometimes Good Game Design trumps tedium.

SHENMUE III SUCKS
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Post by: thisismyusername on November 19, 2020, 10:31:17 PM
Game finally launched on Steam... -66% off the $40. :neogaf Kickstarters, and Epig shills: BTFO. :doge
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Post by: Pissy F Benny on November 20, 2020, 03:23:50 AM
It’s not worth it, shit sux
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Post by: Sho Nuff on November 20, 2020, 04:57:46 AM
I SURE HOPE RYO GETS OUT OF THAT CAVE SOME DAY, HE'S STILL STUCK IN THERE
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Post by: bork on November 20, 2020, 07:07:00 AM
Limited Run Games will be selling a big $149 limited edition today.  Wonder how well that will do?  :doge
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Post by: Pissy F Benny on November 20, 2020, 07:24:09 AM
:hitler

to be fair there are probably a handful of maniacs who are still true believers and will gobble it up
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Post by: thisismyusername on November 20, 2020, 08:08:53 PM
It’s not worth it, shit sux

$20 to see the trainwreck isn't too bad, for the deluxe.
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Post by: thisismyusername on December 28, 2020, 06:17:13 PM
It’s not worth it, shit sux

$20 to see the trainwreck isn't too bad, for the deluxe.

Not even two hours in and this hunger mechanic is awful. It drops your HP as soon as you start running. You can't see the number value outside of the casino like areas in the starting area to where you can "game" it to regen before you lose a HP stone. Once you drop to three, you'll regen health, but my god... what the fuck was Yu thinking tying Sprint to this?

It'd be fine if it dropped throughout the day, ok: Hunger mechanic fits with time passing, but sprinting and then needing to pay $50-100 for a +60-120HP gain? The fuck?
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Post by: Tasty on December 28, 2020, 06:26:37 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FpNAKDx4CwY

most disappointing game i've ever played in my life

Unrelated to the game but related to this: anyone else find this YouTuber absolutely insufferable?
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Post by: pilonv1 on December 28, 2020, 09:17:34 PM
Isn't that every youtuber?
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Post by: Tasty on December 28, 2020, 09:24:11 PM
Isn't that every youtuber?

Maybe these days. That one is extremely prolific in my recommendations, though.
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Post by: thetylerrob on December 28, 2020, 09:47:42 PM
Something pisses me off about......his speech..... cadence.......

Seriously he does the same fucking trailing off thing in every video, maybe a side effect from all the anime. I think his videos are decent though, better than the screaming tuber type.
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Post by: Pissy F Benny on August 26, 2021, 12:07:10 PM
hot update: I was selling off a few old blu rays and games I don't want anymore to one of those we buy your old shit type things to clear out some of the stuff I own, and got 15 English pence for shenmue 3, the game is almost literally worthless :lol :lol :lol
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Post by: VomKriege on May 02, 2022, 09:06:25 AM
Shenmue 4 possibly, maybe, heh ?
https://gamerant.com/shenmue-4-110-industries-hint/ (https://gamerant.com/shenmue-4-110-industries-hint/)

There's also an anime that is doing ok, reportedly.
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Post by: Pissy F Benny on May 02, 2022, 09:19:21 AM
Going by how shit shenmue 3 was it should probably stay anime only going forwards.
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Post by: Svejk on May 02, 2022, 11:11:11 AM
If S4 was truly coming, I'll muster up a playthrough of S3 in hopes for better closer.... If any.  .... Assuming it couldn't be any worse than S3 from what I've heard.
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Post by: Tasty on May 02, 2022, 01:29:30 PM
Shenmue 4 possibly, maybe, heh ?
https://gamerant.com/shenmue-4-110-industries-hint/ (https://gamerant.com/shenmue-4-110-industries-hint/)

There's also an anime that is doing ok, reportedly.

Hmm almost like the medium of games isn't the best match for this tale...
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Post by: Joe Molotov on May 02, 2022, 03:06:58 PM
Shenmue 4 possibly, maybe, heh ?
https://gamerant.com/shenmue-4-110-industries-hint/ (https://gamerant.com/shenmue-4-110-industries-hint/)

There's also an anime that is doing ok, reportedly.

Hmm almost like the medium of games isn't the best match for this tale...

Walking Simulators have become quite popular in recent years.
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Post by: Polident Hive on May 02, 2022, 06:12:52 PM
Is the anime any good? Read it only covers Shenmue 1&2.

Assuming two episodes cover Ryo listening to cassette tapes.
Title: Re: Shenmue III OT - I CAN believe that it's bad!
Post by: Pissy F Benny on May 02, 2022, 07:48:17 PM
If that's the case it all but covers the entirety of shenmue 3 aside from the last 20 mins, story wise at least :heh