This is like the third "wtf Oregon" story I've read in a week.Yeah the rural areas have got some insane fucks in them. Was in a town a few weeks back where many of the spots there were named with a K! Yeaaah.
Does Oregon want to become the new Florida?
If this is resolved peacefully, there are going to be a billion tweets along the lines of "white people take over federal building and make it out okay, black kids get shot playing at the park."To be fair this is a situation with multiple armed people, and post Waco the Feds try to diffuse these things as bloodlessly as possible.
They won't be wrong, either.
If this is resolved peacefully, there are going to be a billion tweets along the lines of "white people take over federal building and make it out okay, black kids get shot playing at the park."To be fair this is a situation with multiple armed people, and post Waco the Feds try to diffuse these things as bloodlessly as possible.
They won't be wrong, either.
Remember kids, the NSF started as the Northwest Secessionist Forces out of Oregon.
#TheDeusExFutureIsReal
Wow Oregon trying to take a shot at the resident fucked up state of the year championship.
I still am laying the odds on Florida.
I know it's Gizmodo, but whatever...
http://gizmodo.com/oregon-was-founded-as-a-racist-utopia-1539567040
When Oregon was granted statehood in 1859, it was the only state in the Union admitted with a constitution that forbade black people from living, working, or owning property there. It was illegal for black people even to move to the state until 1926.
Ammon Bundy said that the group in Oregon was armed, but that he would not describe it as a militia. He declined to say how many people were with him, telling CNN on Sunday that giving that information might jeopardize "operational security."
So, is this guy like a cousin or something of that other deadbeat rancher with the scary militia following named Bundy?
or should anybody at all who's last name is Bundy and first name isn't Al to be regarded with utmost suspicion.
Not Mine: Instead of Jihadists, they are Yeehawdists.
for maximum honky enraging, Obama should send in the drone strikes while signing the executive order for gun control.
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Hey guys, you notice something? Benji has been strangely absent from this thread.
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Wonder why that could be...
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MOVE was what, 9 years before Waco and no one learned anything from that (or even remembers it). I WONDER WHY.If this is resolved peacefully, there are going to be a billion tweets along the lines of "white people take over federal building and make it out okay, black kids get shot playing at the park."To be fair this is a situation with multiple armed people, and post Waco the Feds try to diffuse these things as bloodlessly as possible.
They won't be wrong, either.
Was about to say, Waco is the definitive thing to look at to see how to fuck up at something.
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Hey guys, you notice something? Benji has been strangely absent from this thread.
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Wonder why that could be...
Kara, come get your boy.
:neogaf
I get taxed on both :dead
:neogaf
I get taxed on both :dead
This is why the feds would capture you while Benji escaped.
It's pretty simple, you just tax other nations.
their idealized tyrannical minarchist state with a monopoly on violence.this seems like as good an opportunity as any to plug this book:
Like all really powerful political movements, neoliberalism attempts to reconcile any number of implacable antimonies by repeatedly squaring the circle. This goes some distance in explaining why, by the late 1950's the neoliberal thought collective abruptly stopped asserting they were engaged in the construction of a "new liberalism" and subsequently suppressed all notions of a rupture with previous classical liberal doctrines, contrary to all evidence. The more perceptive commentators on the phenomenon of auto-validation had come to realize that something was afoot, in particular by identifying neoliberalism as an authoritarian variant of the liberal tradition. As early as 1955, Carl Freidrich noted that neoliberals "are fond of quoting Benjamin Constant: 'The government beyond its proper sphere ought not to have any power: within its sphere, it cannot have enough of it'". Karl Polanyi, brother of the Mont Pelerin Society member Michael Polanyi, deflty captured the dynamic:http://public.econ.duke.edu/~erw/190/Mirowski%20Defining%20Neoliberalism.pdf
"[T]he road to the free market was opened and kept open by an enormous increase in continuous, centrally organized and controlled interventionism...Administrators had to be constantly on the watch to ensure the free working of the system. Thus even those who wished most ardently to free the state from all unnecessary duties, and whose whole philosophy demanded the restriction of state activities, could not but entrust the state with new powers, organs and instruments for the establishment of laissez faire."
He can't c/p entire articles and bold lots of sentences then post a smilie on twitter, tho
:heh
He can't c/p entire articles and bold lots of sentences then post a smilie on twitter, tho
:heh
He can't c/p entire articles and bold lots of sentences then post a smilie on twitter, tho
:heh
I do that, you take a screenshot and link it to your tweet. ☝
"I need to get home," he said. "I got cows that are scattered and lost."
...I'm seriously starting to think Benji is out there
...I'm seriously starting to think Benji is out there
That would explain why benji's posting has slowed significantly in the past few days: spotty cell service in rural Oregon.
http://www.theonion.com/graphic/what-you-need-know-about-oregon-militia-standoff-52111
Another man from Utah who took part in the Bundy standoff told Oregon Public Broadcasting that he was miffed by how few protesters showed up. “I feel quite betrayed. It’s been on Facebook that everyone is going to come. And we show up, and everyone just craps out,” he said. “You come up here, ready to get killed if we have to and these people are just on Facebook about it."
He added, “I’m not here to shoot anyone, I’m here to get shot."
“I’m not here to shoot anyone, I’m here to get shot."Newsfeed
Quote“I’m not here to shoot anyone, I’m here to get shot."Newsfeed
Quote“I’m not here to shoot anyone, I’m here to get shot."Newsfeed
Authorities have not yet moved to remove the group of roughly two dozen people, some from as far away as Arizona and Michigan.
He's probably writing them all down now, documenting this elite group of mercenaries and rebels for future historical study.
The Chronicles of The White Company :lawd
:(He's probably writing them all down now, documenting this elite group of mercenaries and rebels for future historical study.
The Chronicles of The White Company :lawd
I honestly wouldn't have pegged you....
He's probably writing them all down now, documenting this elite group of mercenaries and rebels for future historical study.
The Chronicles of The White Company :lawd
I honestly wouldn't have pegged you as the one to drop a casual condottieri reference at The Bore. :lol
FUCK your razor.
Also Amazon sells dildos? :doge
http://gawker.com/angry-militia-leader-stop-mailing-us-dildos-1752580458plane.jpg
lmao
Well didn't this whole thing started over the right to set federal land on fire? Not the brightest bunch we're dealing with here.It depends on which thing you're talking about. There's the Hammond's case, which started in 1999 when the feds told the Hammonds to stop setting non-permitted fires on the border of their property along the federal land and not watching the fires because they'd eventually charge them when they got out of control. The Hammonds disagreed and eventually in 2001 got arrested for arson after like the twentieth fire or something they set. They got arrested a second time in 2006 for more of the same and they apparently never stopped setting shitty fires.
In about October 2015, the Hammond case had attracted the attention of Ammon Bundy and Ryan Payne. The pair had been actively looking for a cause to adopt since the conclusion of the Bundy standoff in May 2014. Beginning in early November, Bundy and his associates began publicizing the case via social media. Over the ensuing weeks, Bundy and Payne met for approximately eight hours with Harney County Sheriff David Ward to detail plans for what they described would be a peaceful protest in Burns, as well as also requesting the sheriff's office protect the Hammonds from being taken into custody by federal authorities. Though Ward said he sympathized with the Hammonds' plight, he declined Bundy and Payne's request. Ward said that he subsequently received death threats by email. Unbeknownst to Ward, Bundy and Payne were simultaneously planning a takeover of Malheur National Wildlife Refuge.
Ammon Bundy and his band of militiamen said they destroyed a fence at the site of their anti-government standoff earlier this week to help out a nearby rancher, but that rancher said Wednesday that he did not give them permission and does not support their mission.
Tim Puckett, a rancher whose land runs adjacent to the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge, told The Oregonian Wednesday he’s never spoken to Bundy, and his ranch hands have already fixed the fence.
“I am very upset,” Puckett told the paper. “They didn’t have my permission to do anything.”
Bundy claimed Monday he had permission from the rancher’s family to destroy the fence, which would allow their cattle to graze on public land, and said he even consulted them on where it should go. Bundy and his supporters are protesting the federal government’s meddling with public grazing lands, which they say should be returned to local residents.
But Puckett said he “didn’t know anything about it” until late Monday night, after the militiamen had already removed 20 to 30 yards of federal fence using the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service’s own equipment, according to The Oregonian. The fence was built last year using a $100,000 grant.
word saladOh right, they're the grazing guys too. Literally nobody is supporting their mission besides some peeps on social media. :gloomy
This is not an emergency situation, unless you turn it into one. Ammon Bundy’s occupation of an empty building is essentially the same as civil-disobedience sit-ins that the political left has engaged in for decades, from anti-war and civil rights protesters in the 60s and 70s (including a nineteen month occupation of Alcatraz by American Indian activists), to Occupy Wall Street Movement and Black Lives Matter activists today.
These ranchers, cowboys, and veterans just happen to be armed, as westerners tend to be.
https://www.oathkeepers.org/critical-warning-to-u-s-military-and-federal-leo-do-not-follow-orders-to-waco-ammon-bundy-occupation-in-oregon-or-you-risk-starting-a-civil-war/
The domestic terrorists who seized the Malheur national wildlife refuge near Bend, OR, are operating with incredible impunity, destroying public property, breaking into federal databases and disrupting sites of archaeological and sacred indigenous interest.:comeon
Though the terrorists sometimes face criminal sanctions for theft of public property when they venture out of their armed compound, their ideological leader, Ammon Bundy, has been able to come and go freely from the site, even after reports of the destruction surfaced.
The terrorists have paved a new road through the refuge, over territory that is considered archaeologically significant; the reserve itself encompasses many Paiute burial sites that the band holds sacred.
The terrorists claim to be there on the Paiute's behalf. Paiute band leaders do not want their help, and are outraged at the disruption of their traditional lands by a racist terror-cell.
Regarding the wildlife refuge, the Burns Pauite Indian tribe and federal government officials said they were worried about possible damage to cultural resources, artifacts, sensitive records and local wildlife habitats.
The US Fish and Wildlife Service strongly condemned the occupiers for building the new road.
“It’s deplorable,” spokesman Jason Holm said in an email. “I’m not sure what part of the [occupiers’] interpretation of the constitution promotes the destruction and desecration of culturally significant Native American sites … This is disgusting, ghoulish behavior.”
Holm also said the fish and wildlife service had received reports that the occupiers were accessing federal records at the refuge, raising concerns about a possibly dangerous data breach. He said the government was now contracting with a data protection and credit monitoring service to safeguard refuge employees whose personal data may have been compromised.
Seriously, these guys had their fun and they've had their chance, the feds need to move in and put a stop to this ridiculous farce.Not yet! Has that 55 gallon drum been delivered yet?!?
Members of the armed standoff at the Malheur National Wildlife refuge said Monday that they've recruited ranchers to stop paying the federal government for the right to run cattle on public land.:doge
The occupation organizers are planning a "signing ceremony" Friday where ranchers will sign documents renouncing their obligation to pay fees tied to the federal grazing allotments, said spokesman LaVoy Finicum.
Two ranchers – one from Oregon and one from New Mexico – have agreed to sign the papers and "I hope they bring a couple more in tow," Finicum said.
The documents will be sent to the U.S. solicitor general, he said.
"It's not about ranching," Finicum said. "It's about asking the federal government to return to the confines of the law and allow the states and the counties to be free to govern themselves."
Leaders of the occupation, now in its 17th day, plan a public meeting Monday night at a hot springs resort in the unincorporated community of Crane to offer details about their plans.
Finicum said it's one of several meetings expected in the coming days as the occupiers take their message outside of Harney County and even outside of Oregon. He visited Utah last week to drum up support for the occupiers' cause.
The gathering is scheduled for 6 p.m. at the Crystal Crane Hot Springs resort.
After Harney County officials "rebuffed" a request to use the county fairgrounds for a meeting last Friday to tell community members about their plans to end the standoff, other communities have "reached out to us," Finicum said, including Grant County.
Finicum, who has stopped paying fees on the federal grazing allotment attached to his Arizona ranch, said he doesn't believe ranchers who stop paying the fees should have free access to the land. Instead, the occupiers support a "production tax" directing grazing fees into local government coffers.
The armed occupiers have organized a "rapid response team" tasked with defending ranchers who agree to stop paying their grazing fees, he said.:lol
"At any time that they need somebody, they can call," Finicum said. "If the sheriff will not respond, we will respond."
As for the refuge, Finicum said, "it returns to Harney County." County officials have said they have no interest in taking ownership of the 187,000-acre land holding.
A contingent from the Center for Biological Diversity, a national environmental group based in Tucson, planned to observe Martin Luther King Jr. Day by hiking on the refuge. The federal government is celebrating the holiday with a fee-free day for recreation on public lands, but the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge remains closed due to the standoff.
In a statement, the center's executive director, Kierán Suckling, said the hike is meant to "bear witness to this great injustice and show the militia thugs that America won't be scared away from its public lands by guns and threats."
The group also is planning a protest Tuesday on the refuge, with supporters traveling from Bend and Eugene to join the handful of environmentalists who have already arrived in Harney County.
I'm seeing in other news that the militia are destroying native american historical relics, and that some of the wildlife preserve is on land owned by them. If this is a reservation, aren't native americans able to enforce their own law on the invaders?seriously? what a bunch of ass clowns
I'm seeing in other news that the militia are destroying native american historical relics, and that some of the wildlife preserve is on land owned by them. If this is a reservation, aren't native americans able to enforce their own law on the invaders?
I'm seeing in other news that the militia are destroying native american historical relics, and that some of the wildlife preserve is on land owned by them. If this is a reservation, aren't native americans able to enforce their own law on the invaders?
Legally? Yeah, they probably can. Forcing these idiots out short of a gun battle is another matter, though, and I doubt the tribal police are equipped for something like that.
I'm seeing in other news that the militia are destroying native american historical relics, and that some of the wildlife preserve is on land owned by them. If this is a reservation, aren't native americans able to enforce their own law on the invaders?
Legally? Yeah, they probably can. Forcing these idiots out short of a gun battle is another matter, though, and I doubt the tribal police are equipped for something like that.
It'd be neat to see the reservation po-po rolling in armored-up army surplus tanks, making squishy noises on these ass-clowns.
Something which there is a ton of here. :lolI'm seeing in other news that the militia are destroying native american historical relics, and that some of the wildlife preserve is on land owned by them. If this is a reservation, aren't native americans able to enforce their own law on the invaders?
Legally? Yeah, they probably can. Forcing these idiots out short of a gun battle is another matter, though, and I doubt the tribal police are equipped for something like that.
It'd be neat to see the reservation po-po rolling in armored-up army surplus tanks, making squishy noises on these ass-clowns.
To be fair, they have too much on their plate dealing with real criminals. I don't think any law enforcement agency wants to deal with these jerkoffs. They are probably on the same level as masturbating homeless men.
Whats Trumps stance?
Really hope they stand down and don't get riled up by the death.
Ryan Bundy, 43, of Bunkerville, Nev., suffered a minor gunshot wound in the confrontation about 4:30 p.m. along U.S. 395. He was treated and released from a local hospital and was in FBI custody, authorities said.
Also arrested during the stop were his brother, Ammon Bundy, 40, of Emmett, Idaho, Ryan W. Payne, 32, of Anaconda, Mont., Brian Cavalier, 44, of Bunkerville, Nevada, and Shawna J. Cox, 59, of Kanab, Utah. They were charged with conspiracy to impede federal officers, a felony.
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In Burns, Oregon State Police also arrested Joseph D. O'Shaughnessy, 45, Cottonwood, Arizona, known in militia circles as "Captain," and Pete Santilli, 50, of Cincinnati, an independent broadcaster known for his aggressive manner and live streaming refuge events. They face conspiracy charges of impeding federal officers.
Jon Ritzheimer, 32, a key militant leader, surrendered to police in Arizona on the conspiracy charge. He gained national fame for complaining on a video about the delivery of sex toys to the refuge in response to the occupiers' plea for supplies.
In the meantime, Operation Mutual Defense, a network of militias and patriot sympathizers, issued a call on its website for help at the refuge. The post was written by Gary Hunt, a board member from California who has expressed support for Timothy McVeigh, who bombed a federal building in Oklahoma City and had ties to the patriot movement.(http://image.oregonlive.com/home/olive-media/width960/img/oregonian/photo/2016/01/27/burnsarrestcollagejpg-311732a88791ec5e.jpg)
"You have an obligation to proceed to the Harney County Resource Center (the wildlife refuge) immediately," Hunt wrote. "If you fail to arrive, you will demonstrate by your own actions that your previous statements to defend life, liberty, and property were false."
Ammon Bundy, Ryan Bundy, Brian Cavalier, Shawna Cox, Peter Santilli, Joseph O'Shaughnessy and Ryan Payne.
Fiinicum on Monday said an interview that "the tenor has changed" between the occupiers and federal authorities.:beli
"They're doing all the things that shows that they want to take some kinetic action against us," he said.
Really hope they stand down and don't get riled up by the death.
Yeah, I don't think that's likely.
The occupiers also claimed Finicum had his hands in the air when he was shot.
"...this hero's murder."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=72MJLxSTiGM
QuoteThe occupiers also claimed Finicum had his hands in the air when he was shot.
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QuoteThe occupiers also claimed Finicum had his hands in the air when he was shot.
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Other militiamen have some takes, and they're super-hot, brehs. :whew"when it came time to do real Patriot shit you ran like bitches"
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So beards are not for gamers and artists? This guy is a System Administrator according to his profile. :huh
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z8KeeIW5eMM
That's some exquisite schadenfreude. :delicious
Bundy actually thought that the feds were just going to let him and his co-leaders drive around the countryside indefinitely without ever being arrested at any point. :neogaf
QuoteThe occupiers also claimed Finicum had his hands in the air when he was shot.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aAGxDWKrjPQ
Fun starts at 8:20.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cvZ_L9JsUsw&feature=youtu.be
Did that one patriot eat all the snack supply? Is that what happened?
A man can be heard talking on the phone in the background while Fry and another man discuss food.
"I was eating your Pop-Tarts," the man tells Fry.
"That's totally fine," Fry responds.
Don't forget snacks!!!!!
Cliven Bundy, the Nevada rancher who touched off one armed showdown with federal authorities and applauded another started in Oregon by his sons, was arrested late Wednesday at Portland International Airport and faces federal charges related to the 2014 standoff at his ranch.
Bundy, 74, was booked into the downtown Multnomah County jail at 10:54 p.m.
He faces a conspiracy charge to interfere with a federal officer -- the same charge lodged against two of his sons, Ammon and Ryan, for their role in the Jan. 2 takeover of the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge in Burns. He also faces weapons charges.
The Bundy Ranch Facebook page reported Cliven Bundy was surrounded by SWAT officers and detained after his arrival from Nevada.
He was arrested at 10:10 p.m., authorities said.
The Bundy patriarch had traveled to Portland with plans to go on to Burns, where four occupiers had been the remaining holdouts of the refuge occupation.
Ammon Bundy's lawyer, Mike Arnold, said Cliven Bundy was considering joining Nevada Assemblywoman Michele Fiore at a news conference that had been planned Thursday morning in Portland to talk about the refuge takeover. Almost immediately after she arrived in Portland, Fiore started talking to the last occupiers by phone and left in a car for the six-hour drive to Burns to help work out their surrender.
"It's terribly unfortunate the timing of his arrest, given all the progress Assemblywoman Fiore made this evening,'' Arnold said, referring to Fiore's intervention on behalf of the holdhouts.
Arnold urged the four remaining occupiers to find some good in it. "He was arrested without incident and without violence," the lawyer said. "That should give them comfort in their decision tomorrow.''
JKS3938 just now
America,
BANG ! Let the domino affect roll down hell. The criminal intent, conspiracy, conflict of interest and aiding and abetting against the Hammond's by our CORRUPT Government that are directly and indirectly connected the American BAR Association "AKA British Accredited Registry / NAZI PARTY." These Co-conspirator with the FBI and mercenaries; cost the Life of LaVoy Finicum... ;-(
1) 9th Circuit Chief Judge of the U.S. District Court of Oregon ANN AIKEN-KLONOSKI
2) Lead District Attorney AMANDA MARSHALL
3) Harney County Judge STEPHAN GRASTY
4) Mayor of Portland CHARLIE HALES
5) Attorney Adviser Department of Inspector General 9th Circuit Court of Appeals JAKE KLONOSKI
6) Brother to Jack ZACH KLONOSKI
7) Sheriff DAVE WARD
😎 and OTHERS
Power Corrupts Absolutely: Ties that Bind Run Deep with Aiken Family in Hammond Case - The Shasta Lantern
BANG ! Let the domino affect roll down hell. The criminal intent, conspiracy, conflict of interest and aiding and abetting against the Hammond's by our CORRUPT Government that are directly and indirectly connected the American BAR Association "AKA British Accredited Registry / NAZI PARTY." These Co-conspirator with the FBI and mercenaries; cost the Life of LaVoy Finicum... ;-(
When one woman -- presumed to be Fiore -- asked two of them about their families, a man responded, "God has put us on this path. Our families are already taken care of; they weren't in our lives much before all this because God made sure we didn't have that to weigh us down so that we could do this."
While I waited for Bundy to reappear, I watched another of his grandsons rope a dummy bull for rodeo practice. Finally, after half an hour, the bodyguard stood over me and grimaced, his hand on his holstered gun. “All right, that’s it, time to go.” I hesitated; the bodyguard shook his head. “I think he’s gone back to sleep,” he said. “The man needs his naps.”
Cliven Bundy, the Nevada rancher who touched off one armed showdown with federal authorities and applauded another started in Oregon by his sons, was arrested late Wednesday
Molly Young @mollykyoung 4m4 minutes ago
Fry just declared war against the government. "Liberty or death. I'm taking that stance." #Oregonstandoff
Laura Gunderson ✔ @LGunderson
Fry: I'm tired of having my money going toward abortion. How can I find a way to not pay for that stuff #oregonstandoff
Everyone has been arrested except for the last dude that says he's suicidal and his not coming out his tent unless the FBI promises that they won't use his tax money for abortions.Tell him they'll specially mark his money so it gets set aside and only goes to wounded veterans.
Laura Gunderson ✔ @LGunderson
Fry says FBI needs "to make peaceful resolution with me." When asked what promises he wants, he doesn't answer. #oregonstandoff
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Dave Killen ✔ @killendave
"they need to make a peaceful resolution with me," "they haven't promised me anything" says Fry #Oregonstandoff
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Dave Killen ✔ @killendave
New voice on call says "The Roman govt paid for abortions too David. So did Jesus; he paid taxes to the Romans" #Oregonstandoff
Everyone has been arrested except for the last dude that says he's suicidal and his not coming out his tent unless the FBI promises that they won't use his tax money for abortions.You know how you avoid paying the federal government? BY GOING TO JAIL.QuoteMolly Young @mollykyoung 4m4 minutes ago
Fry just declared war against the government. "Liberty or death. I'm taking that stance." #Oregonstandoff
Laura Gunderson ✔ @LGunderson
Fry: I'm tired of having my money going toward abortion. How can I find a way to not pay for that stuff #oregonstandoff
Everyone has been arrested except for the last dude that says he's suicidal and his not coming out his tent unless the FBI promises that they won't use his tax money for abortions.You know how you avoid paying the federal government? BY GOING TO JAIL.QuoteMolly Young @mollykyoung 4m4 minutes ago
Fry just declared war against the government. "Liberty or death. I'm taking that stance." #Oregonstandoff
Laura Gunderson ✔ @LGunderson
Fry: I'm tired of having my money going toward abortion. How can I find a way to not pay for that stuff #oregonstandoff
Two sons of Nevada rancher Cliven Bundy and three other men refused to enter pleas in federal court in Las Vegas to charges in an armed confrontation with government agents two years ago.
Magistrate Judge George Foley Jr. entered not guilty pleas on behalf of each man during a sometimes contentious arraignment that featured cat-calls and cheers from about 30 Bundy backers and defendants' family members, under watchful eyes of about a dozen U.S. marshals.
Before balking at entering his plea, Ammon Bundy alleged he had been mistreated in custody to Nevada from Oregon, where he and the others have been held since their arrests in the occupation of a U.S. wildlife refuge this year.
He said he'd been handcuffed for 23 hours during the move, including 11 hours to a bench, and that jailers once passed him by when other inmates were fed. He said he got a meal after he complained.
"I do not see how we are being treated as innocent in any way," he said.
His brother and co-defendant, Ryan Bundy, professed to understand his rights but not the charges against him. He also said he wants to serve as his own lawyer.
The judge noted that a court clerk and prosecutor Steven Myhre had just spent 94 minutes reading the 63-page, 16-count indictment aloud. The word-for-word recital came after the defendants exercised their right to hear the charges against them.
Co-defendants Blaine Cooper and Ryan Payne stood Friday next to their court-appointed attorneys in Las Vegas and said their rights were being violated.:american
Payne told the judge it was "preposterous, sir," to have to defend himself against federal charges in two jurisdictions at the same time.
"I don't understand the pretense of this level of government to bring forth such charges," he added.
Brian Cavalier finished his arraignment — "I will not be entering a plea today," he said — by offering federal prosecutors a pocket copy of the U.S. Constitution.
The cordon of marshals tensed when Cooper picked up the pamphlet and tossed it onto the table of the U.S. attorneys handling the case.
"All political power is inherent in the people. Government is instituted
for the protection, security and benefit of the people; and they have
the right to alter or reform the same whenever the public good may
require it. But the Paramount Allegiance of every citizen is due
to the Federal Government in the exercise of all its Constitutional
powers as the same have been or may be defined by the Supreme Court of
the United States; and no power exists in the people of this or
any other State of the Federal Union to dissolve their connection
therewith or perform any act tending to impair, subvert, or resist the
Supreme Authority of the government of the United States. The
Constitution of the United States confers full power on the Federal
Government to maintain and Perpetuate its existence, and whensoever any
portion of the States, or people thereof attempt to secede from the
Federal Union, or forcibly resist the Execution of its laws, the Federal
Government may, by warrant of the Constitution, employ armed force in
compelling obedience to its Authority."
Cliven Bundy, the Nevada rancher who led an armed standoff over grazing fees on federal lands, is suing President Obama and Nevada officials in hopes of getting charges against him dismissed.oh man, to see the look on Obama and Reid's face when Bundy whips out a pocket constitution
Bundy’s lawyer will file the complaint Tuesday against Obama; Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.); his son, former Clark County Commission Chairman Rory Reid and U.S. District Court Judge Gloria Navarro.
It alleges that they violated several of his constitutional rights and also asks the court to dismiss his indictment and release him from solitary confinement. His legal team will discuss the action Tuesday, following a detention hearing in Las Vegas.
The suit, which names Sen. Harry Reid (R-NV), his son, Rory, U.S. District Judge Gloria Navarro and President Obama as defendants, calls for Bundy to be released from federal custody and awarded $50 million in damages.
In the complaint, Bundy alleges Reid deployed “the equivalent of federal storm-troopers” to meet Bundy’s “peaceful cowboys” defending their grazing rights on public lands. The suit states the “invasion and armed assault” was intended to remove Bundy so Reid and his son could profit off the sale of the land to buyer “reported to be communist Chinese.”
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/cliven-bundy-lawsuit-larry-klaymanQuoteThe suit, which names Sen. Harry Reid (R-NV), his son, Rory, U.S. District Judge Gloria Navarro and President Obama as defendants, calls for Bundy to be released from federal custody and awarded $50 million in damages.
In the complaint, Bundy alleges Reid deployed “the equivalent of federal storm-troopers” to meet Bundy’s “peaceful cowboys” defending their grazing rights on public lands. The suit states the “invasion and armed assault” was intended to remove Bundy so Reid and his son could profit off the sale of the land to buyer “reported to be communist Chinese.”
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Ammon and Ryan Bundy want their Constitutional Rights –including the Second Amendment– to be recognized in jail and are considering suing the Multnomah County Sheriff’s Office to get them, according to a report from Oregon Public Broadcasting.
Specifically Ryan says lack of access to talk with Ammon Bundy violates his freedom of assembly. He also argues that his Second Amendment rights have been violated, presumably because guns are not allowed in jails.
PORTLAND, Ore. (AP) -The leaders of an armed group that took over a national wildlife refuge in rural Oregon have been found not guilty of conspiracy and possession of firearms at a federal facility.http://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/jury-acquits-leaders-of-oregon-wildlife-refuge-standoff
A jury on Thursday exonerated brothers Ammon and Ryan Bundy and five others of conspiring to impede federal workers from their jobs at the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge.
Some of the defendants also were charged with possession of firearms at a federal facility and were acquitted on that count as well.
The standoff began Jan. 2 and lasted nearly six weeks, bringing new attention to a long-running dispute over control of federal lands in the U.S. West.
The Bundys are still facing charges in Nevada stemming from a high-profile 2014 standoff with federal agents trying to round up their father Cliven Bundy's cattle.
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The jury sent a note to the judge that members have "exhausted all discussion" and can't come to an agreement, and that "further deliberation would not help."
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:bow me :bow2
The Oregon trial came to a dramatic end when Ammon’s lawyer Marcus Mumford insisted that his client should be set free, while US District Judge Anna Brown argued that Ammon would have to be taken into custody pending the outcome of the Nevada case. A struggle ensued and Bundy’s lawyer was tackled to the floor by US marshalls and hit with a stun gun
I still don't understand how they are considered "not guilty" of all the stuff they did.
I still don't understand how they are considered "not guilty" of all the stuff they did.
I'm reading that the gun charges were subversient to the conspiracy one, and the conspiracy was tied to intentionally impeding federal workers from performing their duties, all or nothing deal. It may look that a sympathetic jury went nitpicky and technical. It also surfaced that FBI had 15 informants going through the refuge at various points while it was occupied (27 people were charged in several cases in total) so the defence played a counter-conspiracy narrative.
A former bodyguard for Nevada rancher Cliven Bundy has become the final person sentenced in an armed standoff with U.S land management agents nearly five years ago.
Chief U.S. District Judge Gloria Navarro sentenced Brian Cavalier to the 20 months he already served in custody for the April 2014 confrontation.
The 47-year-old Cavalier previously pleaded guilty to two conspiracy charges.
He told the judge on Tuesday he wants to put the case behind him.
Cavalier also pleaded guilty in Oregon and was sentenced to time already served for his role in a 41-day armed occupation of a wildlife refuge in 2016.