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Title: Yakuza/Like A Dragon/Judgement Thread Of There's A New Game Couple Of Months
Post by: Wrath2X on January 20, 2017, 09:43:37 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C2nweqDXUAQHyPS.jpg:large)

https://twitter.com/LennyReviews/status/821224344089149440

Beat Yakuza 5 when it was free on PSN and I think I'll pick this up day 1. Who else is picking this up?
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Post by: bork on January 20, 2017, 09:49:07 AM
Yakuza 5 was free on PSN!?  :o  Fuck, I missed it.  :-\

I've got this pre-ordered.  Will be my first Yakuza game.  :)
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Post by: Cerveza mas fina on January 20, 2017, 10:13:36 AM
sounds like shenmue
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Post by: bork on January 20, 2017, 10:24:11 AM
If I remember right remakes for the first and second game are planned, that'd be cool since I played around with the second many moons ago but never stuck with it for some reason.

1 has a remake that is getting an English release this summer on PS4.  Dunno if there's anything about 2 getting same treatment.

I have Yakuza 1 and 2 on PS2, but never played them.  I picked them up on the cheap before their prices starting skyrocketing.  Also had 3 briefly but sold it off after finding out that they cut content from the game.   ...And I wish I hadn't, because now I'd like to go back and get 3, 4, and Dead Souls for my collection.  Binary Domain, too, even though I have that on PC.

I tried to play 1 but did not want to play it dubbed, and then I did not want to start with 2 without having played 1.  I know they have big recap movies, but I still wanted to start from the beginning.  So perfect that there's 0 and then a remake of the original coming.  :)
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Post by: Cerveza mas fina on January 20, 2017, 10:27:15 AM
Never played one but might give this a go, as its a prequel.

Its a brawler right?
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Post by: Positive Touch on January 20, 2017, 10:38:31 AM
only played 1, but it was basically a Sega open-world game. it was fucking great, aside from the load times. share) shame Sega never brought over the hd remasters of 1 and 2 bc their process are ridiculous now. 
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Post by: archnemesis on January 20, 2017, 01:17:02 PM
I've played the first four games in the series and they are all great. They are very similar to each other though so it's good if you can space them out.
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Post by: Sho Nuff on January 20, 2017, 02:01:17 PM
 :bolo
FOR SHO NUFF, THERE ARE TWO PILLARS OF SEGA

DAYTONA
 :rejoice :rejoice :rejoice :rejoice

YAKUZA
 :dice :dice :dice :dice :dice
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Post by: The Legend of Sunblade on January 20, 2017, 02:02:24 PM
I want this real bad but can't afford it.  :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(

I'll just hook up my ps3 and play yakuza 5 so i can pretend im playing it
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Post by: Bebpo on January 20, 2017, 08:42:24 PM
Kinda tempted to jump into this one because it's a prequel and I can play it without having to catch up (like the samurai ones).  Can't play the mainline ones until I catch up.  Still on  Yakuza 3 with mainline.  Maybe 2017 will be the Yakuza year of catching up.  Probably not.  :'(
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Post by: HyperZoneWasAwesome on January 20, 2017, 09:31:21 PM
So Yakuza 0 in a few days, Yakuza remake this summer, and then Yakuza 6 this time next year?

It's really strange that Sega of all companies is taking a chance on the series in the west. Not expecting to somehow start crushing buildings but I do hope for somewhat decent sales this go around.
hell, they pretty much gave up on the series three times now. Y2 got a veeeery belated release (pretty much the last significant Western PS2 game, unless you're into weab shit), Y3 got an even more tardy release that only happened because Sega of America was shamed into it by Atlus offering Sega Japan a good deal for it, and Y5 only got translated for a digital only release because Sony America sponsored it. Which is how we're now three games behind Japan (only two pretty soon) just for PS4 released entries into the series. Aye yie yie.

But yeah, I love this series. If JRPG's were about badass gangsters, had contemporary settings, and 90's style beat-em-up gameplay, they'd all be like Yakuza. And the world would be a better place.
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Post by: The Legend of Sunblade on January 20, 2017, 11:15:01 PM
Don't forget Dead Souls being a complete flop.

...I loved Dead Souls though.  :'(
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Post by: Joe Molotov on January 20, 2017, 11:55:59 PM
Haven't played a Yakuza game since the first one. Kinda interested.
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Post by: bork on January 23, 2017, 12:37:55 PM
TOMORROW, BITCHES!

(http://49.media.tumblr.com/aaa89240c93ea6d4d4f05a3c70d65521/tumblr_nc4tdqPpgN1r7qbrco1_r1_400.gif)(https://i.makeagif.com/media/12-07-2015/3wTOf8.gif)(http://68.media.tumblr.com/3ef98ee748f71433e4fb9e32dff331e9/tumblr_nc4tdqPpgN1r7qbrco10_500.gif)
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Post by: Mr. Gundam on January 23, 2017, 01:31:54 PM
It's a great game, too bad I bought it back in 2015 and already played through it.

Now that Sega is clearly supporting the series over here, I've stopped importing RGG games will buy them domestically starting with number 6.
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Post by: Sho Nuff on January 23, 2017, 04:51:14 PM
I'M GOING HOME EARLY TOMORROW TO ROCK THIS HARD
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Post by: eleuin on January 23, 2017, 09:37:12 PM
Still need to beat 4 and 5 but using money to buy upgrades now is a great change
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Post by: a slime appears on January 24, 2017, 09:10:20 AM
Can't wait to play!

:hyper :hyper :hyper
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Post by: bork on January 24, 2017, 09:29:56 AM
(http://www.videogamesblogger.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/yakuza-zero-club-dancing-purple-rain-gif-animated-videogame-ps4-ps3.gif)(http://i.imgur.com/qq1oSjo.gif)
(http://i.imgur.com/wRIE3rI.gif)

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 :o :rofl  :o :rofl
(This is from 6)
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Post by: bork on January 24, 2017, 09:52:00 AM
(https://66.media.tumblr.com/c508f95af5b65b4481c6d3f4d8af65d7/tumblr_nzgqkb7tOf1s82c3do1_400.gif)(https://66.media.tumblr.com/c508f95af5b65b4481c6d3f4d8af65d7/tumblr_nzgqkb7tOf1s82c3do1_400.gif)(https://66.media.tumblr.com/c508f95af5b65b4481c6d3f4d8af65d7/tumblr_nzgqkb7tOf1s82c3do1_400.gif)
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Post by: chronovore on January 24, 2017, 06:42:34 PM
I've always been curious about this series, and that OP twitter clip has me more interested than ever.  :doge


If I wanted to start with an older one, which one should I try?


Do any of the Japanese released games have English built-in?
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Post by: chronovore on January 24, 2017, 07:24:29 PM
Good point.


I can deal with spoken Japanese, and can muddle my way through a lot of reading, but it feels like homework.  :-\
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Post by: Positive Touch on January 24, 2017, 08:06:36 PM
only played the first one but from what I remember it had rpg amounts of text, although all the story scenes were voiced
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Post by: Rufus on January 24, 2017, 08:24:44 PM
The first two had a lot of voiced cutscenes, but a lot of story sequences are just textboxes. Lots and lots of textboxes ticking out every letter, very much like an RPG. Plenty of side-quests, too.
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Post by: bluemax on January 24, 2017, 11:07:53 PM
It's weird watching people talk but their lips don't move in 2017.
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Post by: bork on January 25, 2017, 07:28:10 AM
Played through the first chapter last night.  Took a couple of hours.

This game very much a "1080P PS3 game."  The controls are a little too stiff and janky at times.  The environments have almost no interaction whatsoever.  You can't go into most of the stores. 

BUT THE GAME IS FUCKING AWESOME.   
:playa

The story really drew me in and fighting is fun.  You have some brutal finishers and can switch fighting styles on the fly.  All over this!

Also holy crap at Kamurocho.  Sex shops and strip clubs everywhere.   :lol  It's clearly based on Kabukicho, lol.  I wonder how many English speakers playing the game will miss what the names of the shops and descriptions on fliers say, because none of it is translated.
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Post by: a slime appears on January 25, 2017, 08:03:27 AM
Also holy crap at Kamurocho.  Sex shops and strip clubs everywhere.   :lol  It's clearly based on Kabukicho, lol.  I wonder how many English speakers playing the game will miss what the names of the shops and descriptions on fliers say, because none of it is translated.

I definitely will. If you see anything funny please post in the thread!

Also, am I reading the game wrong or is this basically the evolution of Shenmue? Except that it's fun and the story is actually interesting, lol.
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Post by: bork on January 25, 2017, 08:47:37 AM
Also holy crap at Kamurocho.  Sex shops and strip clubs everywhere.   :lol  It's clearly based on Kabukicho, lol.  I wonder how many English speakers playing the game will miss what the names of the shops and descriptions on fliers say, because none of it is translated.

I definitely will. If you see anything funny please post in the thread!

Also, am I reading the game wrong or is this basically the evolution of Shenmue? Except that it's fun and the story is actually interesting, lol.

It does strike me as a better Shenmue, yeah. 

The funniest thing I've seen so far is when you do karaoke right at the beginning of the game.  The end is SO.  80s.   :lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HILWyc1pid0
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Post by: a slime appears on January 25, 2017, 09:01:00 AM
:rofl

Oh man I honestly wasn't expecting that. I was so focused on hitting the buttons and then I glance up and I'm like wtffff is going on lol.
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Post by: Sho Nuff on January 25, 2017, 05:36:21 PM
FUCK THIS GAME IS REAL GOOD

 :dice
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Post by: Beezy on January 25, 2017, 08:09:31 PM
This is PS4 only in the west, right? No PC or PS3? I haven't played a Yukuza game since beating the first on PS2. This looks like a good point to get back into the franchise.
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Post by: StealthFan on January 25, 2017, 10:23:01 PM
This game is good.
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Post by: Lucretius on January 26, 2017, 01:34:32 AM
Fun fact that people forget:  The first Yakuza on PS2 had English voice acting for the western release.  And Goro Majima was voiced by Mark Hamill.  So if you've ever wondered what it would be like to hear Luke Skywalker call people "motherfucker" a lot, check it out.
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Post by: Bebpo on January 26, 2017, 03:06:44 AM
(https://66.media.tumblr.com/c508f95af5b65b4481c6d3f4d8af65d7/tumblr_nzgqkb7tOf1s82c3do1_400.gif)(https://66.media.tumblr.com/c508f95af5b65b4481c6d3f4d8af65d7/tumblr_nzgqkb7tOf1s82c3do1_400.gif)(https://66.media.tumblr.com/c508f95af5b65b4481c6d3f4d8af65d7/tumblr_nzgqkb7tOf1s82c3do1_400.gif)

Since the first time I saw this, I've totally felt this single motion image defines the entire series in a nutshell.
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Post by: bork on January 26, 2017, 07:23:23 AM
This is PS4 only in the west, right? No PC or PS3? I haven't played a Yukuza game since beating the first on PS2. This looks like a good point to get back into the franchise.

PS4-only. 
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Post by: HyperZoneWasAwesome on January 26, 2017, 11:13:44 AM
(http://www.videogamesblogger.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/yakuza-zero-club-dancing-purple-rain-gif-animated-videogame-ps4-ps3.gif)
Yeah, loving the game. It put a big, huge, movie nerdy smile on my face when I saw this guy, Riki Takeuchi in the game. Love that guy. There's gotta be a bunch of gangster-associated actors in this thing that I don't recognize as readily, but Riki, he's hard to miss. But yeah, this game is friggin ace. Nothing else on the market like it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZMTW2Fqw0I
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Post by: Joe Molotov on January 26, 2017, 11:42:12 AM
Fun fact that people forget:  The first Yakuza on PS2 had English voice acting for the western release.  And Goro Majima was voiced by Mark Hamill.  So if you've ever wondered what it would be like to hear Luke Skywalker call people "motherfucker" a lot, check it out.

It also has Bill Farmer doing the voice of Date basically as Sam from Sam & Max.
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Post by: Positive Touch on January 26, 2017, 12:00:41 PM
wait this game has an English dub? it's got Japanese too right? i thought they had given up dubbing these games.
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Post by: Positive Touch on January 26, 2017, 01:01:05 PM
oh. yeah.
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Post by: bork on January 26, 2017, 01:26:22 PM
All right, I gotta have these games now, so Yakuzas 3, 4, and Dead Souls ordered.  Threw in Binary Domain too, because it was so cheap.  Actually both BD and Dead Souls are super-cheap new.  Had to pay $50 a piece for 3 and 4 though.  Figured I'd jump on them already since new copies seem to be getting harder to find.  I already have Yakuza 1 and 2 so that gives me the whole set of English-releases.  Not sure if I'm gonna bother with the two samurai games but I guess I can pick them up on the cheap next time I'm in Japan.  I wish Yakuza 5 wasn't digital-only.  :-\
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Post by: Rufus on January 26, 2017, 01:30:03 PM
You're gonna burn out fast.
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Post by: bork on January 26, 2017, 01:54:40 PM
I just want them for collecting purposes, although I do want to try Dead Souls.  I'm gonna play 0, Kiwami, and 6 on PS4.
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Post by: Rufus on January 26, 2017, 01:56:54 PM
 :piss collecting purposes  :piss2
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Post by: eleuin on January 26, 2017, 02:01:20 PM
3 starts really slow and you might be done with it there
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Post by: bork on January 26, 2017, 02:03:30 PM
:piss collecting purposes  :piss2

:snob

3 starts really slow and you might be done with it there

I had it back when it first came out.  Returned it because it was censored, lol.
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Post by: bork on January 26, 2017, 02:31:00 PM
Ryu Ga Gotoku 6 looking good.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-16ZVup0VTdM/VnPBvEKEWZI/AAAAAAABeRM/bNa6_ir-vvk/w370-h208/yakuza%2B6.gif)
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Post by: a slime appears on January 26, 2017, 10:31:58 PM
:bow collecting purposes :bow2
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Post by: Joe Molotov on January 28, 2017, 10:08:18 PM
Yo this game is lit, played about 8 hours this afternoon, got through Chapter 3. It's like a sweet-ass JRPG, except the fantasy kingdom that you have to save is Japan, and instead of a legendary sword, you just punch everyone in the face.
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Post by: bork on January 28, 2017, 10:15:48 PM
Escape back to glorious 1988 Nippon
:rejoice

Amazon sold out!  Seems like the game is doing well!
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Post by: Joe Molotov on January 30, 2017, 10:44:04 AM
16 hours in and I've only just started Chapter 5; seems like this game is going to be pretty long. So far, I've been doing all the sidequests that I've come across, but apparently none of them are missable, which is good. And there's still so much side content that I haven't touched, like pocket car racing, weapon crafting, Climax Battles and I haven't even unlocked Real Estate/Cabaret Management yet. 
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Post by: Sho Nuff on January 30, 2017, 02:31:51 PM
Apparently there's a total of
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17
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chapters. Holy shit.
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Post by: Joe Molotov on January 30, 2017, 05:39:54 PM
There's 100 sidequests and I think I've done around 25.
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Post by: archie4208 on February 10, 2017, 09:45:58 AM
Yo when

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the camera panned to Tachibana's bat tattoo
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I marked the fuck out.

This game probably has the best plot of anything I've ever played (which is damning with faint praise, but you get the point)
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Post by: Barraco Barner on February 10, 2017, 10:08:06 AM
For all intents and purposes this is my first Yakuza game. Tried 4 but immediately said fuck this and checked out after watching the included recap vids.

Currently have played 70+ hours. Completed the real estate stuff, now working on Cabaret Club. I think I have about 6 chapters left.

This is a fun game  :)
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Post by: archie4208 on February 10, 2017, 10:24:49 AM
For all intents and purposes this is my first Yakuza game. Tried 4 but immediately said fuck this and checked out after watching the included recap vids.

Currently have played 70+ hours. Completed the real estate stuff, now working on Cabaret Club. I think I have about 6 chapters left.

This is a fun game  :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7gzFBnfRfo

:uguu
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Post by: demi on February 10, 2017, 03:59:54 PM
Yakuza 2 got reprinted, and unfortunately its still $50 for a copy. Yikes

... I still want to get it too
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Post by: Positive Touch on February 10, 2017, 04:01:59 PM
oh fuck what where? it's been $120 - $140 compete for a while now.
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Post by: demi on February 10, 2017, 04:05:48 PM
VGP, eBay (just search Yakuza 2), Amazon (search Yakuza 2)
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Post by: HyperZoneWasAwesome on February 10, 2017, 04:29:55 PM
Yakuza 2 got reprinted, and unfortunately its still $50 for a copy. Yikes

... I still want to get it too
Yakuza1-4 got reprinted (Dead Souls... anybody clamoring for that... I'll just wait...)

Even though its likely a miniscule order, its still a great friggin sign that Sega is making some dollars on the series stateside at least. Hope Kiwami and 6 get as much support.
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Post by: archie4208 on February 13, 2017, 08:52:09 AM
The ending was incredibly satisfying.  I'm honestly surprised how much I loved this game and am pumped for the original remake coming out later this year.

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Poor Majima :'(
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Post by: bork on February 13, 2017, 08:55:05 AM
Yakuza 2 got reprinted, and unfortunately its still $50 for a copy. Yikes

... I still want to get it too
Yakuza1-4 got reprinted (Dead Souls... anybody clamoring for that... I'll just wait...)

Even though its likely a miniscule order, its still a great friggin sign that Sega is making some dollars on the series stateside at least. Hope Kiwami and 6 get as much support.

I hope this leads to a physical Yakuza 5 release. :pimp

You can get Dead Souls new for like twelve bucks.  Worth jumping on in case stock finally starts drying up.
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Post by: nachobro on February 14, 2017, 09:17:19 PM
watched giant bomb play a bit of this and went to pick it up right away. holy shit, what a game! doing wrestling moves on dudes, talking up japanese broads, all these ridiculous side missions, and the soap opera main story are all amazing. i picked it up and borrowed a friend's ps4 to keep myself occupied until zelda came out but now i dunno if i'll even finish this in 17 days. :lol

definitely reminds me of shenmue (especially the side missions) while still being a lot more of an actiony brawler.

are the other titles as fun as this? might look in to picking some of those up (assuming any of those reprints are still available)
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Post by: Positive Touch on February 14, 2017, 09:27:20 PM
1 is a great game and the only one I've played. it has a hilarious dub and a ton of loading so ymmv.

2 is supposed to be the best, 3 has a really slow and long intro and is supposed to be alright, and I've heard people say 4 is great.

i should get 2 by the end of the week and so I can FINALLY play it. ten years ago I almost picked it up used but grabbed rule of rose instead. my god that was a terrible mistake.
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Post by: nachobro on February 14, 2017, 09:46:40 PM
jesus the reprints are $50 each :hhh maybe i'll just stick with this one :doge

also should i be putting money into each fighting style equally or just pick a main one and work on that? i'm kinda swapping between brawler and beast depending on where the fight is but i'm not sure if that's the right way to go.
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Post by: fistfulofmetal on February 16, 2017, 02:48:44 PM
I've been playing this and I just finished Kiryu and Majima's first acts.

Boy this game is wild. It starts super strong, the shit with Kuze was super good. Then it shifts to Majima and I'm like wtf I want to see what happens with Kiryu and then his story gets going. The scene at the chiropractor was awesome especially the reveal who Makato was. Now when it shifts back to Kiryu I'm like wtf, I wanna see what happens with Majima!

Spoilers but I have a theory for how the two stories will connect:

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Makato is the person who either owns or knows who owns the Empty lot. It's why there's a hit out on her.
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Don't tell me if that's true or not but it would be the way they connect the stories.
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Post by: benjipwns on February 21, 2017, 01:36:18 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FBtgI8lJ9r4
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Post by: demi on April 12, 2017, 10:51:37 AM
Yakuza Kiwami

http://amzn.to/2oXPpdP
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Post by: bork on April 12, 2017, 01:13:46 PM
$30, nice.
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Post by: Sho Nuff on April 12, 2017, 02:27:34 PM
I just finished this. Fucking masterful game, put me in a cryotube until 2018 when I can play 6.

Best parts:

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Majima's intro in the cabaret club
The porn video sidequests
The cult sidequest
The horny guy who runs around in his underwear all the time
Track jacket sidequest
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(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/ram-E2yPMXQ/maxresdefault.jpg)
(http://wonderpla.net/wp-content/uploads/info/2016/08/info2016083101.jpg)

Also Kuze looks like a super cut version of Wada-san

Some day I'm going to figure out how to whip off my jacket and shirt all in one fell swoop like EVERYONE in this game.
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Post by: archie4208 on April 13, 2017, 03:16:10 PM
$30, nice.

$24 if you have Amazon Prime.  :rock
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Post by: bork on April 14, 2017, 07:30:49 AM
$30, nice.

$24 if you have Amazon Prime.  :rock

:mynicca
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Post by: Sho Nuff on June 02, 2017, 04:35:40 PM
My PS4 started spitting out the disc just when I was half way done with the media king area  :(

Did you do the screw tighten/rubber foot removal?
Title: Re: Yakuza 0 thread of Modern Sega occasionally makes good games.
Post by: chronovore on June 03, 2017, 02:22:12 AM
My PS4 started spitting out the disc just when I was half way done with the media king area  :(

Did you do the screw tighten/rubber foot removal?

SONY QUALITY.
Title: Re: Yakuza 0 thread of Modern Sega occasionally makes good games.
Post by: chronovore on July 03, 2017, 08:34:33 PM
My PS4 also started spitting out discs, so I removed the rubber foot. I'll shave it down later, abut FUCK, SONY, WHAT THE ACTUAL QUALITY CONTROL IS GOING ON? Shit heads. Anyway:

Started, re-started, and abandoned Yakuza Zero.

Yeah, yeah, "git gud" and all that. I was plenty excited to play a bubble-era Japan in an open-world game, but it has already worn out its welcome. Some of this is just "Japan jank," but it's the kind of non-adaptive, Galapagos-esque, this-is-how-we-killed-our-industry bullshit that hits a particularly painful spot for me, so no fucking thanks:


It all felt cheap, poorly tuned, and frustrating.
Title: Re: Yakuza 0 thread of Modern Sega occasionally makes good games.
Post by: Bulleta©™® on July 03, 2017, 10:42:54 PM
So are you going to get 6 next year?
Title: Re: Yakuza 0 thread of Modern Sega occasionally makes good games.
Post by: Himu on July 03, 2017, 10:48:43 PM
Read this thread months ago when it came out and was then and am now, shocked at the reaction considering Yakuza is essentially the same as its been since 2006. All I can ask is,"where tf have you people been?" ??? I'm genuinely curious and this isn't a judgement.
Title: Re: Yakuza 0 thread of Modern Sega occasionally makes good games.
Post by: a slime appears on July 04, 2017, 09:28:22 AM
Read this thread months ago when it came out and was then and am now, shocked at the reaction considering Yakuza is essentially the same as its been since 2006. All I can ask is,"where tf have you people been?" ??? I'm genuinely curious and this isn't a judgement.

Yakuza 1 and 2 came out on platforms people stopped giving a shit about once they bought 360s/PS3s. Yakuza 3/4 were lackluster and sequels to a series no one played.

It took something like 0 along with a heavy marketing push by Sega to make a splash in the U.S. market.
Title: Re: Yakuza 0 thread of Modern Sega occasionally makes good games.
Post by: Himu on July 04, 2017, 10:20:48 AM
I guess I'm an odd ball. I still played ps2 well into the 360 era with Persona 3 coming out in 2007 and 4 in 2008. Same with Yakuza 2. Then again, it was my most played system and I didn't get a 360 until 2007. Buying systems at launch wasn't a thing for me and never has been. I give and gave my systems mileage. Also, Yakuza 1 came out on ps2 when it was still relevant and PS3 had BC. But Sega poorly marketed it. That's okay though, I marketed it for them.

I was still playing my ps2 regularly well into 2010. Then again, didn't get my first hdtv until 2011. I played ps2 pretty consistently for almost ten years. GOAT system.
Title: Re: Yakuza 0 thread of Modern Sega occasionally makes good games.
Post by: Himu on July 04, 2017, 10:35:41 AM
Yakuza did not sell decently. Yakuza 1 bombed. Iirc its sales were in the ten thousands? Or I'm probably thinking of a different game. Either way, sold less than 50k.
Title: Re: Yakuza 0 thread of Modern Sega occasionally makes good games.
Post by: chronovore on July 04, 2017, 06:33:07 PM
Also, Chrono, is it possible that your love or GTA and other open world games like that lead to your disappointment with Y0? Since it is very different even though it can look similar to people on the surface.
In some ways, yes. In other ways, absolutely not. Y0 feels like it was developed by a team that never realized this console generation or even the previous one happened. There are many ways now to deal with save/load flow, player on-boarding,  or even unifying your own in game presentation structure (cinematics). No one is asking Sega to invent the wheel. There are heaps of examples out there.

This game was made in a vacuum.
Title: Re: Yakuza 0 thread of Modern Sega occasionally makes good games.
Post by: Himu on July 04, 2017, 06:55:08 PM
It's just a Japanese game and you're not used to Japanese games like that. It does pretty standard stuff. Japanese games have done the "not all cinematics are voiced" thing forever. yakuza isn't popular enough for that and its budget just keeps increasing. This just kind of shows how much you play story-oriented Japanese games. It's not your thing and was hardly made in a vacuum. You're placing completely different expectations upon it.
Title: Re: Yakuza 0 thread of Modern Sega occasionally makes good games.
Post by: chronovore on July 04, 2017, 07:07:24 PM
It's just a Japanese game and you're not used to Japanese games like that. It does pretty standard stuff. Japanese games have done the "not all cinematics are voiced" thing forever. yakuza isn't popular enough for that and its budget just keeps increasing. This just kind of shows how much you play story-oriented Japanese games. It's not your thing and was hardly made in a vacuum. You're placing completely different expectations upon it.

You might be surprised to find that I completely agree with you. I generally don't play Japanese games because the user experience is so mediocre compared to western games. Japanese development teams still focus on implementing UI from a tool chain that may literally date back to PS1 era.  Limited tools lead to limited implementation, which leads to poor user experience.

 As far as the "not all cinematics are voiced" thing is concerned, as a developer who has worked extensively with localization, i'm actually FOR limiting voiceover wherever possible.  My complaint was intended to reference the multiple and inconsistent UX methods which were being used to display cinematic contact.  When the cinematic is running, the player should know what their options are. I am open to having two types of presentation, but not four or five.

 I will even admit to having a strong negative bias towards these limitations, which are inherent to Japanese development. I fought it for more than 10 years here, from the inside, to little avail.
Title: Re: Yakuza 0 thread of Modern Sega occasionally makes good games.
Post by: chronovore on July 04, 2017, 08:51:47 PM
https://medium.com/@stephchow/creating-a-functional-ui-that-embodies-your-games-world-d8ff66e99b76

Good article on this, if you're curious.

She's living in Japan, I wonder who her consultancy services, due to the reasons I stated.

In short, you're right, this Galapagos UI is ubiquitous, I'm bitter.

Still doesn't excuse it.
Title: Re: Yakuza 0 thread of Modern Sega occasionally makes good games.
Post by: Himu on July 04, 2017, 08:57:42 PM
What's the problem with yakuza 0's UI? Was straight forward to me but then again been playing yak games for a decade so maybe I'm immune to it. I'm also used to jp jank, not that I think yak is jank.
Title: Re: Yakuza 0 thread of Modern Sega occasionally makes good games.
Post by: chronovore on July 04, 2017, 09:46:29 PM
What's the problem with yakuza 0's UI? Was straight forward to me but then again been playing yak games for a decade so maybe I'm immune to it. I'm also used to jp jank, not that I think yak is jank.

Yeah, as a longtime fan who also just said the game has always been this way, I'm guessing you're well used to it. And you play many more Japanese games than I, so you're inured to it.

 Just so that I can speak coherently about the things I am complaining and droning on about, I fired up the game and I am looking at the menus that bothered me so much. I'm just going to focus on the pause menu and the notebook as a worthy sample.

Tooling around the Pause Menu, I'm torn between wanting less choices or more on the first screen. They could have easily taken the nine headings and better pared them down by category.  It's also inconsistent because the Title Menu displays "new" every time there is new information or data under a category. That is not used here so there model is inconsistent. 

These Pause Menu headers are not straightforward. As an example Notebook/Help immediately presents a choice of Notebook or Characters. This should've been an additional heading on the  Pause Menu, or an L1/R1 tab choice, just as Inventory handles its own subcategories. Additionally, offering a "Notebook" and "Characters" choice after selecting the similarly worded "Notebook/Help" header is disorienting and sloppy.

Once I'm in Notebook, there are a wealth of "new" marked headers showing. This is all useful information, but the "new" label didn't propagate to its parent on the Pause Menu or even the notebook/character selection dialog, so it's effectively invisible to the player unless they drill down out of curiosity.

Lastly, on this Notebook,  there are a set of four headers on the left, and their subcategories on the right. Using a directional input on any left column category will automatically display its subcategory headings on the right column.  The left and right columns do not distinguish themselves as which one is active. The buttons display at full brightness and identical border treatment in either case, and even have an identical glossy highlight, so the only way to tell what is actually selected  is to wait for an intermittently animating flash to move across the button. In fact the left column of categories sports a giant drop shadow, so just moving the drop shadow to the right-hand column when it is active would have gone a long way to emphasizing where the focus is, just as Windows and MacOS have done for 20 years.  On top of this, to actually move between the columns requires and except or back choice rather than just letting the player use left and right to move between them. It's a small note, but would alleviate player stress in the UI.
Title: Re: Yakuza 0 thread of Modern Sega occasionally makes good games.
Post by: Positive Touch on July 04, 2017, 10:04:22 PM
iirc all yakuza games run on the same engine and y6 will be the first time they upgrade. the series is running on duct tape and underpaid salaries at this point
Title: Re: Yakuza 0 thread of Modern Sega occasionally makes good games.
Post by: fistfulofmetal on July 04, 2017, 10:49:35 PM
I played Yakuza and Persona back to back and was surprised at how similar the story telling/cutscene styles were between the two. Having tiers of cutscene quality/production seems to be a go-to design choice for Japanese studios. Persona has some that are fully voices and animated, some that are fully voices using in-engine assets, some that are in-engine and mostly text beyond some quips, then some that are just text over character standing still. Yakuza does the same thing, all the way to pre-rendered cutscenes that look great all the way down to static characters with text.
Title: Re: Yakuza 0 thread of Modern Sega occasionally makes good games.
Post by: Himu on July 04, 2017, 11:11:37 PM
One thing critics of this don't get is that games like Persona, Yakuza aren't AAA games. At least Persona wasn't. It might be now when P6 comes out, but P5 is totally still a niche game in terms of budget. A lot of the criticisms thrown here are being made as of all of these games are AAA production quality when they're anything but and these developers have kind of had to cut corners, especially in the PS3 generation (for which Yak 0 and P6 constitute given they are ports to the ps4). If you didn't notice Japanese game sales were pretty low comparably last gen and this is what they've done to survive.

So people who are new to these games and didn't play them in the ps2/3 era find it odd and are expecting AAA quality. It's a place of expectations.

Also, frankly, western game fans are far too used to and demand homogeneity. So usually they deem a flaw is usually a deliberate design decision. You can see this in examples such as the constant bitching about lack of walk and shoot in RE5 after the release of Dead Space. For whatever reason, western game fans demand that all games control the same way, look the same way, and function the same way.

I really like that everything isn't voice acted. Although you can read it when voiced, once upon a time when you played RPGs you read it. Not only are these decisions due to budget constraints, it's also done for pure aesthetic. There's appeal in having to read a game and use your imagination without the game voicing things for you. That said, Yakuza 0's cinematic consistency is probably the worst in the series (that I've played). The stand still cutscenes were really weird and kinda new to me.
Title: Re: Yakuza 0 thread of Modern Sega occasionally makes good games.
Post by: Himu on July 04, 2017, 11:16:33 PM
What's the problem with yakuza 0's UI? Was straight forward to me but then again been playing yak games for a decade so maybe I'm immune to it. I'm also used to jp jank, not that I think yak is jank.

Yeah, as a longtime fan who also just said the game has always been this way, I'm guessing you're well used to it. And you play many more Japanese games than I, so you're inured to it.

 Just so that I can speak coherently about the things I am complaining and droning on about, I fired up the game and I am looking at the menus that bothered me so much. I'm just going to focus on the pause menu and the notebook as a worthy sample.

Tooling around the Pause Menu, I'm torn between wanting less choices or more on the first screen. They could have easily taken the nine headings and better pared them down by category.  It's also inconsistent because the Title Menu displays "new" every time there is new information or data under a category. That is not used here so there model is inconsistent. 

These Pause Menu headers are not straightforward. As an example Notebook/Help immediately presents a choice of Notebook or Characters. This should've been an additional heading on the  Pause Menu, or an L1/R1 tab choice, just as Inventory handles its own subcategories. Additionally, offering a "Notebook" and "Characters" choice after selecting the similarly worded "Notebook/Help" header is disorienting and sloppy.

Once I'm in Notebook, there are a wealth of "new" marked headers showing. This is all useful information, but the "new" label didn't propagate to its parent on the Pause Menu or even the notebook/character selection dialog, so it's effectively invisible to the player unless they drill down out of curiosity.

Lastly, on this Notebook,  there are a set of four headers on the left, and their subcategories on the right. Using a directional input on any left column category will automatically display its subcategory headings on the right column.  The left and right columns do not distinguish themselves as which one is active. The buttons display at full brightness and identical border treatment in either case, and even have an identical glossy highlight, so the only way to tell what is actually selected  is to wait for an intermittently animating flash to move across the button. In fact the left column of categories sports a giant drop shadow, so just moving the drop shadow to the right-hand column when it is active would have gone a long way to emphasizing where the focus is, just as Windows and MacOS have done for 20 years.  On top of this, to actually move between the columns requires and except or back choice rather than just letting the player use left and right to move between them. It's a small note, but would alleviate player stress in the UI.

Never thought about it like this. I'll check it later tonight to see what you're talking about.
Title: Re: Yakuza 0 thread of Modern Sega occasionally makes good games.
Post by: chronovore on July 05, 2017, 08:48:43 PM
Update: QoI's request for clarity required I turn the game back on. Turning it in made me curious, so I upgraded my fighting abilities and stocked up on energy drinks. Beat the boss. Played for another 2 hours, got into it. Game is pretty fun.

UI is still horrible.
Title: Re: Yakuza 0 thread of Modern Sega occasionally makes good games.
Post by: chronovore on July 06, 2017, 09:50:34 AM
UI doesn't bother me much. I have a thing for heavy micromanagement and like how PS2 the whole thing was.

I do see that I'm in the minority of that, though.

According to QoI, it's just something you j-game fans are accustomed to, and the Japanese teams don't have the money to do it over again. Speaking from experience, I'll tell you that it's lack of proper planning, scope, and can provably be shown to save money even over the course of one project by fixing it, but no-one will take responsibility in case it turns out to be more complicated than originally thought. (cough)
Title: Re: Yakuza 0 thread of Modern Sega occasionally makes good games.
Post by: chronovore on July 06, 2017, 09:53:06 AM
And because I'm coming off too negative, I'll add this: The game is legitimately fun. I'm in Chapter 3 now, in Osaka's bridge area, and playing and fighting in a part of town I know very well. It's a fucking blast. This has been great, and I'm enjoying it now. :hyper

I'm convinced that I could improve just about every aspect of the game as a producer, and make Yakuza 6 a more efficient and consistent product. I'm also aware that I'm probably the only person who would care about the changes.  :-\
Title: Re: Yakuza 0 thread of Modern Sega occasionally makes good games.
Post by: TVC15 on August 29, 2017, 12:48:33 AM
Who’s in for Kiwami?
Title: Re: Yakuza 0 thread of Modern Sega occasionally makes good games.
Post by: archie4208 on August 29, 2017, 07:23:30 AM
Amazon delayed my copy until the 31st.  :maf
Title: Re: Yakuza 0 thread of Modern Sega occasionally makes good games.
Post by: Positive Touch on August 29, 2017, 07:39:04 AM
apparently i must have preordered this, bc i got a notification saying i should be getting a copy today. pretty cool bc it's been years since i played the original.
Title: Re: Yakuza 0 thread of Modern Sega occasionally makes good games.
Post by: fistfulofmetal on August 29, 2017, 07:43:57 AM
apparently i must have preordered this, bc i got a notification saying i should be getting a copy today. pretty cool bc it's been years since i played the original.

me too. and I haven't even finished Zero... and I doubt i'll have the appetite to play Kiwami directly after if I do.
Title: Re: Yakuza 0 thread of Modern Sega occasionally makes good games.
Post by: Positive Touch on August 29, 2017, 08:15:56 AM
well amazon says it was only $30 so i'm not too worried about it. i have damn near the whole series already and haven't played past 2 yet so this is just another one on the pile lol
Title: Re: Yakuza 0 thread of Modern Sega occasionally makes good games.
Post by: nachobro on August 29, 2017, 02:41:03 PM
Didn't realize it was out today so I'm going to see if a local shop has a copy I can snag.
Title: Re: Yakuza 0 thread of Modern Sega occasionally makes good games.
Post by: TVC15 on August 30, 2017, 12:47:52 AM
Enjoying this and still early on, but it really feels like this wasn't remade with multiple fighting styles in mind.
Title: Re: Yakuza 0 thread of Modern Sega occasionally makes good games.
Post by: bork on August 30, 2017, 07:24:15 AM
well amazon says it was only $30 so i'm not too worried about it. i have damn near the whole series already and haven't played past 2 yet so this is just another one on the pile lol

I have yet to play through any of them.  But I got Kiwami yesterday anyway...the steelbook version was $24 from Amazon...so why not.
Title: Re: Yakuza 0 thread of Modern Sega occasionally makes good games.
Post by: fistfulofmetal on August 30, 2017, 07:25:16 AM
I picked back up with my Y0 game after 5 months. Gonna try and mainline it to the end so I can start Kiwami eventually.
Title: Re: Yakuza 0 thread of Modern Sega occasionally makes good games.
Post by: nachobro on August 30, 2017, 04:38:57 PM
Got Kiwami at Gamestop (last copy!) and didn't have any time to play it last night. Gonna try and get in a couple hours tonight. If nothing else, the steelbook is a real nice looking case.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: TVC15 on August 31, 2017, 09:52:17 AM
Still really digging this, but it feels like they also inflated the amount of hit points bosses have. Boss fights go on forever.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Positive Touch on August 31, 2017, 11:05:54 AM
yeah I'm only at the end of chapter 2 but I can't say I'm a big fan of the new stuff in the combat system. I'd still take it over the insane load times of the original. also, having only played 1 and 2, i gotta say holy shit this is a huge visual upgrade. fully adjustable camera, everything including interiors is rendered, and everything gets an animated cutscene. looks fucking great.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: a slime appears on August 31, 2017, 08:13:28 PM
I am this close to saying fuck it and ordering Yakuza 1 - 4.  :-\
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Positive Touch on August 31, 2017, 08:24:43 PM
have you played any of the series before?
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: a slime appears on August 31, 2017, 08:41:38 PM
have you played any of the series before?

Yes, didn't really like it until 0.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Positive Touch on August 31, 2017, 08:59:59 PM
then why would you... i am confused
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Himu on August 31, 2017, 09:14:39 PM
Are the following missions still in the game?

My man Yuya's girlfriend mission which I won't spoil because it's god-tier

And the mission where the chick gets Kazuya drunk and steals his money? That was a major "holy shit" moment when the first game came out. Helps in that it's literally the first side mission you can run into.

Everyone who never played yakuza 1 please enjoy it. Have no idea what the fuck they've added to this game but 1 had the best side quests in the series, until 0 at least, and the previous two examples are reasons why.

Not interested in this as I've played yakuza 1 many time before to give a shit but I'll be getting Kiwami 2 because 2 is still the best game in the series.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: a slime appears on August 31, 2017, 09:38:57 PM
then why would you... i am confused

I collect retro games.

RETRO KING BAYBEEEEEE
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Himu on August 31, 2017, 09:50:28 PM
Collectors are the morons who buy and keep games they don't like just to have it right?
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: chronovore on August 31, 2017, 10:27:41 PM
Collectors are the morons who buy and keep games they don't like just to have it right?

Yeah, see, this is what I'm talking about.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Himu on August 31, 2017, 10:48:35 PM
Just commenting on Slime admitting he doesn't like yakuza but for some reason wants to collect yakuza
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: demi on August 31, 2017, 10:51:27 PM
Maybe hes just a bigger yakuza fan than you realize
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Positive Touch on August 31, 2017, 11:22:37 PM
it's worth giving this one a shot. the biggest problem with the original was that it was barely able to run on a ps2. with that taken care of what you have is a fun as hell wild ride of a game. plus it's only $30 so why not
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Himu on August 31, 2017, 11:23:47 PM
Nah the biggest problem with the original was the combat system and long combat load times. That and the SHOTTEH FOCK OP voice acting, Mark Hammil aside. 2 fixed all three.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: TVC15 on September 01, 2017, 12:29:51 AM
Majima Everywhere HALP chap 4. Rank E.

spoiler (click to show/hide)
So I just beat traffic cone Majima for the rank up. Is he done for the chapter now? I've been walking around for a while now with no luck
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Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Positive Touch on September 01, 2017, 12:45:47 AM
Nah the biggest problem with the original was the combat system and long combat load times. That and the SHOTTEH FOCK OP voice acting, Mark Hammil aside. 2 fixed all three.

i was referring to the load times when I said the game barely worked. 30-60 loads of a random battle? no thanks. also almost forgot about the dub. I'd be tempted to consider it a positive, bc it's fucking hilarious.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: TVC15 on September 01, 2017, 12:50:06 AM
Right after that I went in to get a burger and he just showed up. After that was him jumping me when I walked past an alley, another where he jumped into some random brawl, and I see him walking around while doing side quests.

Do any sort of side activity and he's bound to show up.

I forgot, I did that burger one immediately after.

I did advance the story by one mission, so maybe I'm on a Majima-less section. I haven't come across any new side quests either. I'll just finish the chapter.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Himu on September 01, 2017, 01:46:19 AM
Nah the biggest problem with the original was the combat system and long combat load times. That and the SHOTTEH FOCK OP voice acting, Mark Hammil aside. 2 fixed all three.

i was referring to the load times when I said the game barely worked. 30-60 loads of a random battle? no thanks. also almost forgot about the dub. I'd be tempted to consider it a positive, bc it's fucking hilarious.

Oh. The load times had nothing to do with being on ps2 is all I'm saying, given 2'z faster load times.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Positive Touch on September 01, 2017, 06:09:16 PM
https://youtu.be/RQMBuh_ASiQ

comparison between the original and remake starts at about 2:30
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: a slime appears on September 01, 2017, 07:52:36 PM
Collectors are the morons who buy and keep games they don't like just to have it right?

Aren't you the dude who keeps buying Sonic games and posting diatribes on video game forums on how they're awful?

 :heh

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Yakuza 0/Kiwami are cool; I want to give the old games another shot. Didn't know people would be so bothered by it, lol.
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Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Positive Touch on September 01, 2017, 08:29:27 PM
play yakuza 2

also how the FUCK do i do kiwami moves on bosses? i unlocked them for each of the styles, i change to whatever style corresponds with the steam the boss is letting out, and... nothing. no prompt, no move. really starting to piss me off bc some of the bosses are not easy.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Himu on September 01, 2017, 09:14:15 PM
The best ones are 2 and if you're willing to import, Kenzan.

I have no problem with collectors. Just found it odd going from "I've never liked a yakuza game before" to "I want to collect them" is all.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: TVC15 on September 02, 2017, 12:22:19 AM
Majima Everywhere is getting old at Rank C. The fights just take too long at this point. He has too many hit point.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Positive Touch on September 02, 2017, 01:35:48 AM
yeah i figured that out eventually. dunno why i was overlooking something so obvious. and for Goro just blast him with heat moves and he goes down in seconds. I'm not up to c level yet but as of now he barely counter attacks so I just wail on him to get it over with
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Positive Touch on September 02, 2017, 01:36:07 AM
p. s. this game is fucking awesome
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: TVC15 on September 02, 2017, 02:07:45 AM
TVC, have you figured out to use the corresponding style for a heat move when he starts heating up? Boss fights were a lot easier once I figured that out.

I did notice that, but it still seems to take forever, especially in rush style. Depending on how the next boss fight is, I may drop difficulty to combat the sponginess.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: a slime appears on September 02, 2017, 08:13:57 AM
The best ones are 2 and if you're willing to import, Kenzan.

I have no problem with collectors. Just found it odd going from "I've never liked a yakuza game before" to "I want to collect them" is all.

:confused

Yeah, except I never said that, lol. I didn't really like them until 0, which is fucking awesome. Plus I never played Yakuza 2 so that's a good place to start for me after Kiwami.

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I know you're jealous of my Yakuza collection Queen-kun :shh
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Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Positive Touch on September 02, 2017, 05:31:34 PM
welp good to see the batting cage fight is still a Legendary Shit Battle. trying not to snap my controller
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Himu on September 02, 2017, 11:44:54 PM
Was the final fight with
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nishiki and kiryu still hype
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? That was the most hype fight in the game.

Also tell me about the Yuya girlfriend mission in the strip club :lol
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Positive Touch on September 03, 2017, 01:32:37 AM
yo spoilers for the newbies
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Himu on September 03, 2017, 02:58:06 AM
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my nicca shinji RIP :tocry
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Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Positive Touch on September 03, 2017, 03:25:56 AM
finally beat the stupid batting cages FUCK THAT FIGHT JESUS FUCKING CHRIST. spammed healing potions and a three bit combo to win. super trash. also fuck the batting minigame too while we're at it bc it looks like it'll still be impossible in this version.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Himu on September 03, 2017, 03:32:20 AM
Uhhh...that fight owns. If it sucks in the remake then they fucked it up. Better than the bathhouse fight.

Never had a problem with batting cages in yakuza games.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Positive Touch on September 03, 2017, 03:44:08 AM
i remember it being really hard in 1; i no the machines were turned on and the balls would knock you down? here it just sucks bc it's really hard to stun Goro and he starts busting out these combos that can do like 80% even when you're fucking blocking. plus he can dodge any of your openers so you can a. dosage while picking at his health for an hour or b. find one combo that works and cheese it while hoping for the best. trash fight thru and thru.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Positive Touch on September 03, 2017, 03:46:23 AM
also wut @ the batting cages minigame. that part was legendary for fucking people over who wanted a perfect save. to get Haruka 's affinity to sss you had to do everything, including getting a perfect score in the cages. shit was maddening bc you needed like pixel perfect timing.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Positive Touch on September 03, 2017, 09:06:30 AM
:maf :maf :maf
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: TVC15 on September 05, 2017, 12:00:54 PM
I also didn't have any problems with the batting cage fight. Get gud.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: demi on September 05, 2017, 12:02:08 PM
Maybe the Yakuza series is too hardcore for you, have you tried Shenmue?
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Positive Touch on September 05, 2017, 02:16:13 PM
i hate all of you
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: chronovore on September 05, 2017, 09:02:16 PM
i hate all of you

C'mon, PT! I quit the game, too. Let's start our own Yakuza… with blackjack and hookers!
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Positive Touch on September 05, 2017, 09:22:21 PM
being yakuza seems like hard work, plus i need my pinky finger so i can open bathroom doors. lets just sit around and drink yamazaki instead
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Positive Touch on September 05, 2017, 11:22:47 PM
so where's Majima? i maxed out rank f and got a phone call saying he was hiding. haven't seen him for like the last 10 hours. wtf
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Positive Touch on September 05, 2017, 11:29:18 PM
nevermind just checked a guide. never would have guessed bc i just assumed those giant traffic cones were some Japanese thing.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: fistfulofmetal on September 06, 2017, 07:40:10 AM
I finished up Zero. Ending was great, especially for Majima.
Passed Kiwami off to my girlfriend.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: archie4208 on September 08, 2017, 07:38:19 AM
I just hit chapter 6 in Kiwami.  I'm having fun, but I don't think the game is nearly as engaging as Zero.  I might replay Zero if I get a chance in the future.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Positive Touch on September 08, 2017, 04:35:40 PM
i hate that this doesn't have an auto-save. ps4 locked up on waking up and i lost an hour of progress. japan forever refusing to add simple qol additions to series ugh
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Positive Touch on September 09, 2017, 07:18:45 PM
"I'm gonna do everything! platinum here I come!"
*plays one game of mahjong *
"yeah nevermind fuck this shit"
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: chronovore on September 10, 2017, 04:33:23 AM
"I'm gonna do everything! platinum here I come!"
*plays one game of mahjong *
"yeah nevermind fuck this shit"

Yeah, I gave my copy back to the gracious loaner on Friday night, bought him burgers and beers for his kindness. I'll admit, if I see it for ¥1500 down the line, I may bite — but when I came back to the game after a 3 week vacation, I was like:

(http://i.imgur.com/xdXXC.gif)
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: archie4208 on September 10, 2017, 11:17:13 AM
I beat Kiwami.  It was good, but Zero is far, far better.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Positive Touch on September 10, 2017, 01:24:09 PM
"I'm gonna do everything! platinum here I come!"
*plays one game of mahjong *
"yeah nevermind fuck this shit"

Yeah, I gave my copy back to the gracious loaner on Friday night, bought him burgers and beers for his kindness. I'll admit, if I see it for ¥1500 down the line, I may bite — but when I came back to the game after a 3 week vacation, I was like:

(http://i.imgur.com/xdXXC.gif)

oh don't get me wrong I still love the game. a good beat-em-up is as satisfying as a hot meal, and the open world stuff is prolly as close as I'll ever get to a vacation in Japan, so I'm having a ton of fun. just not enough to get good at fucking mahjong. that game has more ridiculous rules than Calvinball ffs.

I beat Kiwami.  It was good, but Zero is far, far better.

:( haven't played 0 yet but damn this game came out ten years ago so I wish ppl would go easier on it. it was flawed but still unlike anything else at the time. plus 0 apparently plays up the wacky stuff, which they deliberately tried to avoid a lot of in y1.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: fistfulofmetal on September 11, 2017, 08:53:57 PM
Girlfriend just finished the Majima Batting Cages fight and then triggered the Majima Everywhere event that I assume ties into it:
spoiler (click to show/hide)
Zombie Majima
[close]
and it's fucking hilarious and awesome.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: fistfulofmetal on September 11, 2017, 09:43:53 PM
She's quite literally playing this game for the sole reason of fighting Majima. She seeks him out at all times.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: fistfulofmetal on September 11, 2017, 09:46:56 PM
After having some trouble at first she's got super good at the combat. Way better than I ever did. She switches between styles with purpose and strategy instead of just stubbornly using one like I did in 0.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Positive Touch on September 12, 2017, 12:02:01 AM
well i beat it. I wanted to finish off the Majima stuff but it got annoying when he'd pop up for a fight but I wouldn't get any new moves. like Jesus I already gotta fight him like 50 fuckin times but you wanna add more?? anyways, ending was still epic and this game is still great. gonna polish off a few remaining things in premium mode then get back to working on yakuza 2.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: toku on October 19, 2017, 05:43:01 PM
https://twitter.com/MadAdam_/status/920974008429969408
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Positive Touch on October 19, 2017, 07:49:40 PM
funny because I read an article where they got some real yakuza to play y3 and one of the things they didn't like was how Kazuya dressed like a low-grade dork lol
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Rufus on October 19, 2017, 08:09:04 PM
Like a host club schlong, specifically.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: fistfulofmetal on October 19, 2017, 09:54:17 PM
funny because I read an article where they got some real yakuza to play y3 and one of the things they didn't like was how Kazuya dressed like a low-grade dork lol

umm, Kiryu IS  low-grade dork.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Positive Touch on October 19, 2017, 10:01:01 PM
when I played kiwami i was blown away by how many sidequests were Kiryu getting fucked over by conmen. how the fuck would someone like that ever be a yakuza lol
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: the freakin woz on October 19, 2017, 11:20:36 PM
nearly finished part 3 of yakuza 5 and i'd be down for a spinoff focused purely on haruka's rhythm stuff. taxi kiryu and hunting saejima also owned
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: demi on November 02, 2017, 02:06:12 PM
Yakuza Kiwami $25 on Amazon

http://amzn.to/2gYua5J

Also $25 at GameStop
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Mr. Gundam on November 02, 2017, 03:48:02 PM
I've got the Japanese version but waiting on a price drop on Zero.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: The Legend of Sunblade on November 02, 2017, 08:57:33 PM
Hey I didn't notice this thread was a thing

I put it a bit on the backburner due to irl duties/danganrinpa, but I might make a go at platinuming Kiwami. I've got most of the CP list done, just need to polish off the worst of the casino games, do all of Mahjong, Climax Battles and the Legend run.

Despite liking 0 more than Kiwami, I'm only really making an effort at the latter cause it asks for so much less of you to do.   :'(
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Positive Touch on November 02, 2017, 09:16:33 PM
i was tempted to plat, but once I heard there's no checkpoints I said no fucking way. doing that whole fight again the Chinese mob then that car chase scene? fuck everything about all that.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: The Legend of Sunblade on November 02, 2017, 09:31:01 PM
That's what the Golden Gun and all the Climax Battle bonuses are for bruddah  :gun :gun :gun :gun :gun
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Positive Touch on November 02, 2017, 10:28:24 PM
sheeeeiiit well guess I better finish up those battles then
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: kingv on January 23, 2018, 10:22:38 AM
I’m finishing up Yakuza 0 and... is there a way to speed up Real Estate Royale? It’s such a slog and I don’t know the fastest way to beat it.

I can burn through one of the five stars in like an hour by playing the damn mini game, but real estate totaled shitty timer makes it pretty rough.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: BobFromPikeCreek on January 23, 2018, 10:42:21 AM
I've never played a Yakuza game before. Kawami's cheap, 0 isn't. Do you think Kawami is a good entry point to the series, or should I stop being a cheap fuck and start with 0?
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Rahxephon91 on January 23, 2018, 10:52:52 AM
Kiwami is a remake of the first game so of course it's worth starting there.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Rufus on January 23, 2018, 10:58:34 AM
But 0 is a prequel to it, so...
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: fistfulofmetal on January 23, 2018, 11:03:54 AM
Start with 0. They made changes to Kiwami that reference stuff that happens in 0.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Rahxephon91 on January 23, 2018, 11:10:01 AM
Well most prequels are made with the idea that you've experienced the previous thing. I never recommend prequels before the original.

While it's true that it being a prequel kind of hurts the story as well as helps as you know who is going to survive. So a lot of the tension and consequences can't be taken seriously. It's also more enjoyable already knowing the characters and how these relationships formed. And relationships in Yakuza are important and I think 0 really expects you to know them already. Does Fuma even appear? Does Majima's oath brother? Things they talk about all from previous games

I think 0 does a good job easing new players in, but the question was is Kiwami a bad place to start. Of course not. It's the first game.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: paprikastaude on January 23, 2018, 11:26:36 AM
Not only is Kiwami's story content altered in favor of having played 0 first, Kiwami also expects you to understand the gameplay/battle mechanics of 0 and is much harder.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: kingv on January 23, 2018, 11:36:32 AM
I’ve never played a Yakuza game before zero, and... it’s pretty sweet. The game does take a while to get going, and has a weird stylistic choice in the opening segment, where the first cutscene is basically a motion comic that makes you think the whole game is going to be this ultra low budget affair.

For whatever reason, only this cutscene is handled this way, and I’m not sure why. The rest of the game has more mid-tier level production values. My only recommendation is that the story takes a couple of hours to really get cooking. There’s some good plot twists and foreshadowing involved, but the beginning is relatively slow.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Rahxephon91 on January 23, 2018, 03:25:33 PM
I'm actually playing 0 right now, on the tail end. At first I didn't like the separation of abilities. Though I realize it's kind of a growth of the the multiple character stuff, I still somewhat perfected one character kind of being able to do everything. The balanced mode is usually ok, but I mean as I played more I somewhat grew to like the styles and kind of bloodborne attack just as being attacked mechanic.

I think it's a good game and I think the story does take a bit to get started but once it does it gets pretty good.

But honestly as someone who's played these games since the English release day on the PS2 I'm glad this isn't my first game. I think ones story is better and does more for Kiyra. My problem is I'm not to afraid of what happens to him in 0 and he doesn't seem to have a real great arch. I'm more intersted in Majima since well his character is pretty different from where he is in the other games. But I mean I'm only intersted because I played he other games.

I mean what does Kiwami change about the story? The main cutscenes are all the same. To the point of using the same rigging.  I plan to play Kiwami after 0, but I can't see either as being a bad start.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: kingv on January 23, 2018, 03:59:36 PM
Based on how long I take to beat games nowadays I will probably end up playing 0 then 6 then Kiwami then kiwami 2.

What I ended up liking about the series is that it’s this hard edged crime story, with side stories that are well developed but basically some sort of lifetime movie/sitcom, and then super ridiculous sub stories like metal gear solid sneaking to buy porn mags from a vending machine in a dark alley without being seen and beating off to porn movies and discussing it with some dude in a diaper.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Rahxephon91 on January 23, 2018, 04:42:55 PM
I really want to finish 0 and Kiwami before 6 comes out. To which I'm sure will then also stay in my backlog for months.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: paprikastaude on January 23, 2018, 04:59:10 PM
Where's the Kiwami 2 localisation announcement :shaq2 Guess they are waiting to avoid people skipping 6 for it. Which is what I planned to do :yeshrug
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: fistfulofmetal on January 23, 2018, 05:01:55 PM

I mean what does Kiwami change about the story? The main cutscenes are all the same. To the point of using the same rigging.  I plan to play Kiwami after 0, but I can't see either as being a bad start.

afaik some side quests are added/changed to directly reference stuff from 0. Also they added a bunch of scenes for Nishiki's change into what he is in Kiwami.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: kingv on January 23, 2018, 05:44:16 PM
Where's the Kiwami 2 localisation announcement :shaq2 Guess they are waiting to avoid people skipping 6 for it. Which is what I planned to do :yeshrug

I’m more excited for the fist of the North Star localization.., I’ll be pissed if we don’t get this but got that shitty musou
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Mr. Gundam on February 21, 2018, 05:30:35 PM
The demo for Hokuto ga Gotoku (Fist of the North Star) hits the Japanese Playstation Store later today.

AWWW YEAH.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Sho Nuff on February 21, 2018, 06:26:24 PM
YES YES YES YES
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: kingv on February 21, 2018, 09:18:24 PM
Can we downroad it in the us?
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Mr. Gundam on February 22, 2018, 11:52:32 AM
Can we downroad it in the us?
With a Japanese psn account you can, not sure if there's any restrictions like needing PS+.

Nope. If you can navigate the Japanese store it's free to download.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Mr. Gundam on February 26, 2018, 05:47:13 PM
Yakuza 6 demo 37 GB WUT
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: kingv on February 26, 2018, 10:26:39 PM
Yakuza 6 demo 37 GB WUT

Hard to fit all that awesome into anything smaller
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Mr. Gundam on February 27, 2018, 11:30:04 AM
Yakuza 6 demo 37 GB WUT

Hard to fit all that awesome into anything smaller

The series is bursting at the seams with awesome, but it's just lazy on Sega's behalf.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Positive Touch on February 27, 2018, 12:24:12 PM
they just had you download the whole map or something?
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: bork on February 27, 2018, 12:27:57 PM
Apparently it's huge because it's a big chunk of the game that you can play through and use your save on the full version when it comes out later.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Mr. Gundam on February 27, 2018, 03:01:12 PM
Yeah, you're downloading the whole game with most of it locked out. Super lazy.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: chronovore on February 27, 2018, 04:56:38 PM
Yeah, you're downloading the whole game with most of it locked out. Super lazy.

Normally I get really worked up about calling out devs as lazy, but your assessment is accurate AF.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Mr. Gundam on February 27, 2018, 06:27:06 PM
Yeah, you're downloading the whole game with most of it locked out. Super lazy.

Normally I get really worked up about calling out devs as lazy, but your assessment is accurate AF.

Yeah, I don't use it lightly. Curious if the download size sways people from giving it a shot.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Mr. Gundam on February 27, 2018, 06:49:42 PM
So Sega accidentally uploaded the full game, not the demo. Whoops.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: paprikastaude on February 27, 2018, 07:08:10 PM
really or j/k?
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Mr. Gundam on February 27, 2018, 07:23:51 PM
really or j/k?

Really. They've pulled the demo down but Tweeted about it.

I've got it on my PS4, will be interesting to see what happens. I've also got the game preordered via Amazon. Physical media for life.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Positive Touch on February 27, 2018, 08:39:27 PM
god dammit i passed on it because I was lazy and now I missed out
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Mr. Gundam on February 27, 2018, 09:20:41 PM
Good. Give them your money. That way we get Kiwami 2 and Hokuto.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: kingv on February 27, 2018, 10:18:44 PM
That hokuto shit looks like way too much effort was put into it not to localize.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: eleuin on February 27, 2018, 10:44:10 PM
That's crazy, was about to ask if they can patch a demo 

Is there anything they can really do at this point
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Mr. Gundam on February 27, 2018, 11:02:51 PM
That's crazy, was about to ask if they can patch a demo 

Is there anything they can really do at this point

They can revoke the license for the download.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: bork on February 28, 2018, 07:52:26 AM
The demo is still up on UK and AU PSN.  Hokuto has a demo up (J-PSN) too, BTW.

Was going to post yesterday that I wondered if it might be possible for someone to get into the full game...and Sega made it easy to do so.  :lol
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Rufus on February 28, 2018, 09:11:00 AM
Only the American version seems to have had the flaw. Hm. So someone basically just upload the wrong files? :doge
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Mr. Gundam on February 28, 2018, 11:07:56 AM
Just checked my download, yep, it's the full game.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: eleuin on February 28, 2018, 11:51:32 AM
Playing completely offline a few dozen hours for a free game doesn't sound so bad
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Mr. Gundam on February 28, 2018, 01:02:12 PM
Sega still hasn't said anything. They could either:

1. Patch it and remove the full game.
2. Let those who downloaded it keep it.
3. Push up the release of the full game.

I kinda hope the move up the release, but not sure if that's realistic.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: paprikastaude on February 28, 2018, 02:13:51 PM
 :kobeyuck

It's not like 6 had it easy to begin with, considering that its advanced point in the story might scare off new Y0 players. And other core players might want to skip it until Kiwami 2 comes... So this doesn't exactly help the game either.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: bork on February 28, 2018, 08:43:46 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XNiaaRXz2b0
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: kingv on March 01, 2018, 09:01:00 AM
I wish they would just push up the release date since it’s clearly done :-/.

The whole thing makes me wonder if the game is pushed back because of delays manufacturing the tstochkes for the song of life/special edition.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Mr. Gundam on March 01, 2018, 11:05:27 AM
Yeah, release the game. I played through the first two chapters, it's done.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Positive Touch on March 01, 2018, 12:32:14 PM
licenses were removed; party's over
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Mr. Gundam on March 01, 2018, 12:45:04 PM
My PS4 is offline. Party continue?

I found GET SOME MILK in manly Yakuza font hilarious.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: bork on March 01, 2018, 12:57:26 PM
I wish they would just push up the release date since it’s clearly done :-/.

The whole thing makes me wonder if the game is pushed back because of delays manufacturing the tstochkes for the song of life/special edition.

Yeah, WTF?  There's no reason for a delay here.  They probably also lost some sales because of people who got the unlocked game and kept their PS4s offline.  Apparently some crazy people have already finished it.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Mr. Gundam on March 01, 2018, 01:00:25 PM
Releasing three days before God of War sounds like a terrible idea. I wonder if it's something to do with the limited edition bonus shit.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: bork on March 01, 2018, 01:01:07 PM
sounds like a terrible idea.

New slogan for Sega Of America.

They do some questionable things.  Like when they released Dengeki Bunko Fighting Climax right around the time the updated version came out in Japan.  WHY WOULD YOU DO THIS?
:mindblown
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: kingv on March 01, 2018, 04:11:09 PM
Releasing three days before God of War sounds like a terrible idea. I wonder if it's something to do with the limited edition bonus shit.

I’ll buy both, God of War to blaze through and trade asap, Yakuza to savor like a fine wine.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Mr. Gundam on March 01, 2018, 04:31:18 PM
I'm totally indifferent to God of War. I've got Ni no Kuni II, Yakuza 6 and Super Robot Wars X to keep me busy this Spring.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Mr. Gundam on March 02, 2018, 03:19:42 PM
Went back online and deleted the game from my HDD. Made it about halfway through chapter 3, really enjoyed what I played.

Remembered that I never played through the copy of Ishin I bought with my PS4 a couple years ago, so I can do that while wait.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: paprikastaude on March 02, 2018, 04:46:16 PM
Don't remind me of Ishin.  :mjcry
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Mr. Gundam on March 02, 2018, 05:49:24 PM
Don't remind me of Ishin.  :mjcry

Kenzan still has my favorite opening song from the whole series. Too bad Ishin didn't have something similar.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iP3jrDER_Lk
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: kingv on March 05, 2018, 11:13:27 AM
So I finally finished 0 last night and man it was a great ride.

I think the character development wth Majima fell flat though. I haven’t played any other Yakuza games, but I’m not really looking forward to bowl cut fekkit Majima. Suave pimp Majima is where it’s at. I also didn’t really understand why he was calling that dude that was watching him Sama or Chama at the end.  Like, that dude threatened to kill him multiple times and like tortured him with a bat and shit and then at the end of the game he’s like “you taught me a lot, bro-chama!”

Maybe it’s just like life where people change and it’s not always logical. Or maybe I need to be Japanese for it to make sense.

Overall I am pretty excited for 6 though, and want to go back to Kiwami at some point too.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Mr. Gundam on March 05, 2018, 11:22:14 AM
Playing 0 first seems like a really weird decision. I feel like it loses a ton of the weight that you'd get out of it by at least playing the first game.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: kingv on March 05, 2018, 12:37:29 PM
0 comes before 1!

I still really enjoyed it. I think i read somewhere that it was a great jumping on point which is why I made the decision.

Also that kiwami felt sort of dated on account of it being a remake of a PS2 game. Tbh, if it really feels that dated I probably would never get through kiwami without playing a more “modern” one first.

I might try to blaze through kiwami before 6. If I skip a lot of the side shot, maybe I can finish it fairly quickly.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Mr. Gundam on March 05, 2018, 12:43:12 PM
Gonna try to plow through Ishin while my wife is out of town this week. Definitely going to miss the wild style sword/gun fighting style once we get back to 6. Hehe.

0 comes before 1!

And was made after 1! I can't imagine playing through Zero without already knowing who Kiryu and Majima are, the point is to see where they came from. Plus, Zero is a much bigger game with more bells and whistles, better gameplay, etc. Even in it's Kiwami iteration it would be a bit lackluster to play the first game after. It won't ruin anything, just seems odd to play a prequel first that's meant to played later.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: kingv on March 05, 2018, 01:51:03 PM
Does Ishin have English subtitles?

I didnt think that one was localized, and I don’t speak Japanese.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Mr. Gundam on March 05, 2018, 03:04:34 PM
Does Ishin have English subtitles?

I didnt think that one was localized, and I don’t speak Japanese.

Ishin and Kenzan don't have any English whatsoever. There are really well put together and helpful walkthroughs for them if you'd like to play them, though.

I played the first two Yakuza games in English on the PS2, but then when Sega was dragging their feet on releasing them here, I started importing the games. 6 is the first game I'm playing in years in English, just to support their localization efforts. I've got the English releases of Zero and Kiwami, but played them both in Japanese earlier.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: kingv on March 05, 2018, 09:48:42 PM
Learning Japanese to play video games... down that path lies madness :-)

I just started kiwami. Figure I need to bang out what I can before 6 drops.

Against my better judgment I think I may actually buy the special edition of 6.


Oh shit, justice kazzy in the grey suit with a gun next to that dead dude from Dohima family, or whatever the fuck.


Edit: after running into Majima... I still don’t think they sell the transition into the mad dog of Shimano. Yakuza 0 Majima is better IMO, at least so far.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: bork on March 05, 2018, 11:10:25 PM
Tried the Hokuto Ga Gotoku demo and really, really liked the battle system- it's like a fusion of the Hokuto Musou games and Yakuza together, with super-stylish (albeit possibly repetitive) gory finishers.  The game looks fantastic, too- they went for a cel-shaded style and it just pops off the screen.

Checked and...this is out on Thursday!?  OK, ordered.  Ya got me, Sega. 

EDIT: Cleared the initial story segment and you get a working dune buggy that you can take and race or opt to leave the city and go drive around (complete with radio- listening to Super Monkey Ball music! :rofl) what appears to be a pretty big outside area.  I dunno if it's open world or not but it has that scale initially.  Got rammed by thugs and this shifted to a fight that had enough enemies on-screen to be like a musou game.  You want to talk crowd-clearing moves?  How about digging your hand into a dude's head and then spinning him around to knock all the other thugs away!   :lol  This is fucking awesome. :bow2
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: kingv on March 05, 2018, 11:38:03 PM
Fuuuuuck.

I really hope they localize that shit. Hokuto is probably my favorite anime series.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: bork on March 05, 2018, 11:42:15 PM
Fuuuuuck.

I really hope they localize that shit. Hokuto is probably my favorite anime series.

Speculation is that this has less of a chance of localization because it's not a mainline Yakuza game and poor sales for the second Ken's Rage game that Koei put out.  I hope this is wrong and it gets a localization, because this is fun as hell.  I didn't even finish the demo...seems like there's more to do after you start driving around. 
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: kingv on March 05, 2018, 11:54:20 PM
Kens rage 2 was garbage though, which is why it sold poorly.

It was basically a rehash of the first one and reviewed terribly.

It seems like localizing it to at least English is a no brained. A translation maybe costs a couple hundred grand or 1 million tops?

I feel like just about any yakuza team game will sell 100K on reputation alone. Heck do digital only if you must.

The game looks like it is pretty high production values from the trailer, so I’m hoping this means that localization will is planned.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: bork on March 06, 2018, 12:05:44 AM
Ken's Rage 2 is kind of different than the original.  The first game tried doing some new things with the musou formula and the second game, made by a different team (not even Omega Force IIRC) was more like a regular musou game with questionable quality.  I like the first game a lot more, although recently I did go back and try the second again and found it oddly better than I remembered it being...maybe because I knew what to expect.

Anyway....yes, please localize this, Sega.  PLS.  Will happily sell off my import copy and buy an American copy.  :american
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: bork on March 06, 2018, 12:07:54 AM
This also serves as a reminder that I own every U.S. Yakuza game and have yet to play anything more than the first part of 0.  Something is wrong with me because these games look so awesome. 
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: kingv on March 06, 2018, 12:21:15 AM
Dude, you can talk to a chick who sells her panties and coach a dominatrix and jerk off to porno.

Play that shit!
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: bork on March 06, 2018, 07:26:36 AM
Dude, you can talk to a chick who sells her panties and coach a dominatrix and jerk off to porno.

Play that shit!

Oh, so it's a realistic simulation game.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: kingv on March 06, 2018, 08:09:47 AM
Oh yeah there is also a dude who runs around in his underwear that talks to you about beating the man ham, and which chicks are hot.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Akala on March 06, 2018, 09:04:12 AM
I bought Kiwami for cheapish on release then read that I should play 0 first as is a better game and ties into YK so I waited on a better price as wasn't really in a hurry.

I am about 10 hours into 0 and it's honestly the furthest I have ever gotten in a Yakuza game...played 1 for a bit back in the day and gave up due to jank iirc. It's pretty fucking dope! Whole thing is kind of a mess, but it's a mess I am appreciating so far.

I have dead souls and 5 I think, will have to look back on. Totally see myself getting 6 at some point, but will wait on a sale as I imagine i will be kinda burned out for a while (assuming I finish 0). :japancry

The only real complaint I have is the massive jump in amount of yens needed to unlock the skill wheel...guessing I start getting more money soonish? Wish CP was shared by both characters...
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: kingv on March 06, 2018, 11:38:57 AM
There is a side game tha5 earns a ton of money quickly...but IMO Majimas is much better than kiryus.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: paprikastaude on March 06, 2018, 01:46:19 PM
Real estate has the way superior story though.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: kingv on March 06, 2018, 02:08:55 PM
I didn’t get very far into real estate. I couldn’t really figure out what advanced the clock or any way to speed it up.

I didn’t really hate the idea of it, but sitting around waiting for timers to fill is some phone game level bull shit.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: kingv on March 06, 2018, 02:20:54 PM
I thought Yuki’s story was pretty good for cabaret hustle or whatever Majima game was called.

But the rest were just ok. Maybe the old dudes one wasn’t so bad
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: paprikastaude on March 06, 2018, 02:22:23 PM
You're not supposed to do it all at once, it encompasses all the other sidequests.

I don't even remember most carbaret kings. But the real estate arc might have been its own GOAT game tbh.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: kingv on March 06, 2018, 02:26:32 PM
Cabaret king I liked because I could just sit there and grind it out.

I feel like by the time I got real estate royale, kiryus story was too close to being done for me to do it with out finding a reason to just fool around in the overworld waiting for the timer to tick.

IMO they should have brought it in at an earlier chapter.

I could really tell how much better my Majima was than my kiryu in the final chapter though. Majima wrecked shop and had about 2x as much health.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: paprikastaude on March 06, 2018, 02:56:38 PM
IMO they should have brought it in at an earlier chapter.

That's true.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: bork on March 07, 2018, 09:45:42 AM
One of the (pre-order?) bonuses for Hokuto Ga Gotoku is a Kiryu skin!  :lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ppUDtlUmvdk
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Mr. Gundam on March 07, 2018, 11:08:57 AM
HgG demo was a lot of fun. I really hope it gets localized, otherwise I'll just import it later.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: kingv on March 08, 2018, 09:47:28 AM
So I’ve burned a couple of hours into Kiwami and have some thoughts about it.

 I think going from 0 to kiwami actually works well. The relationships with reina and Nishiki are already established, so his heel turn hits harder. Of course, he tried to shoot you in the Head in 0, so I guess you shouldn’t be surprised.

It’s weird to me that Yumi wasn’t really in 0. She is sort of like Kiryu’s sister, but just sort of “appears” when he’s clearly been close to Nishiki for a minute.

I still don’t like Kiwami Majima as much as lord of the night Majima.

No one seems to age in this game. 0 takes place in the 80s, Kiwami starts in 95, then kiryu goes to jail for 10 years, so there is like 15-20 years between games and all the characters look the same. Like shouldn’t the head Shimano dude be mad old? And Dojima too. And Kiryu should easily be in like his 40s. It’s just weird choices. Kiryu looks somewhat older, as does Kazama, but Dojima and Shimano look the same even though they should probably be in their 60s.

Overall the game is also way less janky than I expected. Since it had origins on ps2, I expected it to feel more “dated”, but honestly it just feels like more 0.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: paprikastaude on March 08, 2018, 12:56:20 PM
Asians don't age. Except circuit racer man.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: desert punk on March 09, 2018, 09:51:06 AM
(https://doanie.files.wordpress.com/2011/01/average-asian-aging-guide.jpg)

Don't know if that applies to men too though...
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Mr. Gundam on March 09, 2018, 12:35:17 PM
About halfway through Ishin, really digging the storyline and how they've played around with history. Not sure how much people would get out of this without some basic knowledge of the Shinsengumi and individuals from that time period.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: kingv on March 09, 2018, 01:17:01 PM
I’m still really digging kiwami.i May actually like the story better than 0 so far, it picks up much more quickly.

I also like how the frequency of random encounters seems lower. By the end of 0, it got old having to best dow 5 dudes every time you turned a corner. Kiwami I have been able to run up and down the street a few times without getting rushed.

The Majima thing sounded like it would be annoying (and still might) but so far I’m impressed that they have added a good amount of variety to how the encounters start.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: paprikastaude on March 17, 2018, 08:23:28 PM
Kiwami 2 in August :rejoice :rejoice :rejoice

https://gematsu.com/2018/03/yakuza-kiwami-2-coming-west-august-28
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: kingv on March 18, 2018, 01:32:53 PM
Is that bad guy that huge kid that you fight in that yakuza 0 sub story? Looks a lot like him.

Anyway. I might only play yakuza games this year at this rate.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: paprikastaude on March 18, 2018, 01:42:58 PM
Yes.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Mr. Gundam on March 18, 2018, 06:33:32 PM
Yakuza 2 is awesome. Just realize that you're probably not getting Kiwami versions of 3-5 since they're already on the PS3 and utilize the same modern design aesthetic. So start playing the damn games.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: kingv on March 19, 2018, 02:49:55 AM
I don’t need Kiwami versions, just straight ports.

I don’t have a ps3 these days...

Edit: also the main villain of Yakuza 2 started out as a 10 year old stealing people pants. Nice
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Mr. Gundam on March 19, 2018, 11:56:12 AM
Gouda is a cool character. Playable in Of The End/Dead Souls, too.

Looks like 4 and 5 are on PS Now. They'd be smart to get 3 up there, too. Can't imagine they'll port them to the PS4.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: nachobro on March 19, 2018, 12:04:59 PM
It's Sega, do they even do anything but port old games and make shitty Sonic titles anymore?
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: kingv on March 19, 2018, 12:11:50 PM
PSnow is the streaming thing, right?

I really don’t like the idea of streaming vidya, but I suppose I will if it is my only option.

3/4/5 were censored in America, right?
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Mr. Gundam on March 19, 2018, 12:23:44 PM
PSnow is the streaming thing, right?

I really don’t like the idea of streaming vidya, but I suppose I will if it is my only option.

3/4/5 were censored in America, right?

A trivia mini game was cut due to the questions not making much sense to a Western audience in 3, I think. Other than that I don't think so, I played them all in Japanese.

edit: Sounds like they took out mahjong and the hostess club stuff in 3. Never bothered with any of that stuff, honestly.

In 4 they cut the trivia mini game but everything else was retained.

The only thing taken out of 5 was the theme song, which is par for the course of the entire series when localized due to licensing rights.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: kingv on March 19, 2018, 02:21:26 PM
That’s not too bad,

The hostess stuff is fun, too bad they removed it... and it’s not like it’s really all that risqué. It’s maybe pg-13
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Drainage on March 19, 2018, 02:35:15 PM
Big Yakuza complaint here...

Reading text dialogue in this game (0) sucks. I’m mashing X because it takes so long for the words to appear and the constant little animations and bullshit the characters do completely breaks the flow of dialogue. Sometimes I’m mashing X to get past a line I’ve already read that won’t go away (due to some shitty animation playing) and then it’ll skip the next line or two of dialogue before I’ve read it.

This annoys me and when I realized 70% of the game is just reading dialogue text it annoyed me a lot more. How can you stand it? The game is kinda slow and bullshitty in the first place but this just makes it feel so much more so.

All they have to do is cancel the animation if you press X and move to the next line of dialogue.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: daycru on March 19, 2018, 04:24:43 PM
Yeah the presentation is dogshit and the pace can be maddening.

Still my favorite current series though.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Mr. Gundam on March 19, 2018, 05:29:16 PM
That’s not too bad,

The hostess stuff is fun, too bad they removed it... and it’s not like it’s really all that risqué. It’s maybe pg-13

Notice that they left it in for 4 and 5. Sega seriously drug their feet on releasing 3 outside Japan, so people were stuck with whatever they were willing to give them. Y1 and 2 sold terribly in the west, so I think they were just trying to release something safe that would sell but also not ruffle feathers.

I dunno. I gave up and started importing the games with Kenzan! and 3.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: kingv on March 20, 2018, 01:49:08 AM
I think 0 starts off pretty slow, but once it gets moving it's a gripping story.

 I never really had a problem with the presentation, actually. It's probably better than at least half the games out there.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: desert punk on March 20, 2018, 04:54:01 AM
Played the first Yakuza years ago but didn't really get into it. Bought 0 last year during a sale and since y'all talk about I decided to fire it up yesterday evening.

Didn't really get far though. Walked around a bit in the city, sucked at karaoke and got into some fights. So far so good. Liked the atmosphere of 80's Tokio and the brawling is nice but also a bit clunky I think. There's also a lot of talking. Don't know if that's a good thing though, since I remember Yakuza 1 as pretty corny. I'll wait and see where the story leads.

Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: bork on March 20, 2018, 08:09:19 AM
Yakuza 6 is out, in English, in Asia.  Retail and PSN.

...So what was the reason for the delay again?  :doge

(https://scontent.fkul14-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/29365672_10156154289433700_8841173381198905344_n.jpg?oh=a906c910c7add13f984eafaf87ba6221&oe=5B385C4E)
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: a slime appears on March 20, 2018, 09:33:56 AM
Problems with the collector's edition goods.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: bork on March 20, 2018, 09:43:25 AM
Started Hokuto Ga Gotoku last night.  I didn't get much time to play but just wanted to check out the beginning.  The opening is the same training area from the demo, I.E. the story skips all the beginning story from Fist Of The North Star and has you taking out thugs on a few floors then fighting Shin directly (without a fake Yuria doll in the background, hey what?).  Kenshiro then staggers through a town looking for Yuria, gets some water, and is told that she was there and gets a tip to head towards a the "miracle city" of Eden.  I didn't read all of FoTNS but I assume the Eden thing is new for this game.  The story is pretty easy to follow and those cel-shaded graphics. :drool  Looks insane at times- so close to a manga come to life.  Eden was in the demo, too, but now you have to find a way to get inside the city.  That's where I stopped playing for the night.  It's still kind of weird seeing a place in the world of FoTNS that has electricity and clubs and shit.

Problems with the collector's edition goods.

 :-\
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: paprikastaude on March 23, 2018, 05:15:48 PM
It actually took me a while to realize that all the intro songs were removed in the west. The embarrassingly awful replacement song in Kiwami was blatantly off, but I still thought prior games had the original music. Especially since I like the replacement song in 3 over the Japanese version. 4 is better in Japanese, but the western intro was the kind of melodramatic bs that didn't feel out of place.

Either way, I guess even if we got the game, we ain't ever getting this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w4Km-16EJRw

:tocry
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: bork on March 23, 2018, 05:17:27 PM
I haven't even heard that song in the game yet and I cleared the first chapter.  :lol
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: paprikastaude on March 23, 2018, 09:34:22 PM
Speaking of the devil:
https://www.reddit.com/r/yakuzagames/comments/86mval/kiwami_2_will_keep_the_licensed_music_from_the/
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Mr. Gundam on March 28, 2018, 04:46:24 PM
Speaking of the devil:
https://www.reddit.com/r/yakuzagames/comments/86mval/kiwami_2_will_keep_the_licensed_music_from_the/

That's pretty cool.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Mr. Gundam on April 06, 2018, 02:08:22 PM
Finally beat Ishin the other night. Really fun game, did a good job trying to take historical events with a RGG slant.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: kingv on April 14, 2018, 06:15:08 PM
I just finished up Kiwami. I think I liked the order of going from 0 to Kiwami.

The Nishiki arc I think had more impact that way. Playing Kiwami only, he’s more of a villain for most of that game.

I thought the two yacht scenes were interesting, and also think it’s weird how both games the villains near the end end until being sort of introduced quickly, and not built up. Both the dude at the end of 0 and the dude with mole on his face in Kiwami were sort of just there, and not really built up over the whole story.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Mr. Gundam on April 17, 2018, 08:00:10 PM
Hey look at that, my save game and trophies from the full game leak still work. Woohoo!!
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: kingv on April 17, 2018, 08:28:37 PM
Just opened the essence of art edition... the art book is ok, but would have preferred a steel book.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Sho Nuff on April 17, 2018, 09:11:35 PM
Not the best limited edition these guys have ever done
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: kingv on April 17, 2018, 09:44:30 PM
I was very close to getting the one with the glasses, but like... I don’t think I would use them.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: bork on April 17, 2018, 10:08:20 PM
Just opened the essence of art edition... the art book is ok, but would have preferred a steel book.

It's kinda cool that the game case is the book, but yeah, metal cases are nice.  At least this case is better than the Tomb Raider paper ones...
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Svejk on April 18, 2018, 08:00:49 AM
Where's that Yakuza sale, PSN?  dufuq
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: kingv on April 19, 2018, 01:12:05 PM
Played about a chapter of 6 last night. I’m not sure what I think about the new engine. I’m enjoying the heat actions, but it feels a lot less smooth than Zero or Kiwami.

There’s more going on, but I’m not sure that I prefer it.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Sho Nuff on April 19, 2018, 01:20:54 PM
Zero and Kiwami run at double the frame rate, so this feels a little chunkier.

That being said, no load screens on shop entry is fantastico. I also love what they did to the Host Club sequences, everything's so snappy now.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: kingv on April 19, 2018, 01:38:31 PM
I definitely wish it had a performance mode on pro. It still has some pretty eye searing aliasing at whatever resolution it runs at so going down to 1080 and getting even 45 FPS would be good for me.

Running into the shops is cool, but it’s also sometimes annoying. I beat some dudes in the street and wanted to get a burger right nearby for a pick me up and they wouldn’t serve me.

In zero or Kiwami I would just run past a trash mob and enter whatever building and they disappear. Unfortunately that’s no longer an option.

Having only played zero and Kiwami, there’s a lot of characters I am not familiar with.

Plus sides: it seems like there are more heat attacks, and the double heat attacks against Ed with that sewer dude we’re pretty cool. It felt like there a decent number of them, some of which were environment specific. Those fighting with your Bros moments were great in Zero, and they seemed to double down on it here.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Sho Nuff on April 19, 2018, 06:13:16 PM
Yeah um I'm pretty sure my PS4 Pro is not doing this game justice
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: kingv on April 19, 2018, 06:27:23 PM
Really uneven image quality overall and it’s kind of weird.

Like sometimes I’ll see a fence or a power line I’m the distance and it makes me question what resolution it runs at, because the aliasing is so bad.  But then I’ll look at the characters in the same scene and they look really clean.

It’s sort of a weird effect.

Also, there were a couple of scenes that looked really low detail in the prologue, but I’m thinking that they might have just been fmv of some parts of the Yakuza 5 ending or something. Like the parts where Haruka was talking to him in the snow.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: kingv on April 20, 2018, 12:43:19 PM
The Hiji substory is pretty great. I really thought it was funny.

One thing I like about this series is how Kiryu is a really really simple character. He’s basically a flat character whose only depth is that a bunch of shit has happened to him/around him, but he has not many defining traits other than badass.

Actually, the Fist of Athens North Star spin-off is perfect because Kenshiro is basically the same character. It must be some kind of anime trope. It’s sort of like the Japanese version of Superman. Super tough, always honorable, kind of naive, and somewhat boring.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Sho Nuff on April 20, 2018, 01:02:33 PM
Hiji  :-*

Just got to the Hiroshima backstreets. The amount of atmosphere in this game is mindblowing.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: daycru on April 21, 2018, 01:09:28 PM
Y6 feels like a really big demo.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Sho Nuff on April 27, 2018, 02:43:04 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ieaIxziICzI

Cancel all other video games, you can't get any better than this
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Akala on April 27, 2018, 09:46:20 AM
someone really liked evanescence  :lol

I am plugging through and prob like 3/4 of way through 0, i am really liking it but I just don't have time for 30+ hour games at moment.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: HardcoreRetro on April 28, 2018, 05:39:37 AM
https://youtu.be/wM3d266_QWw

This is my favourite karaoke.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: kingv on May 22, 2018, 10:24:52 AM
Yakuza 3,4 and 5 remastered announced for PS4. Yeah, booooyyyyy.

I started up on 6 again after finishing up God of War for trade.  This game is so much better.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: bork on May 22, 2018, 10:38:05 AM
Yakuza 3,4 and 5 remastered announced for PS4. Yeah, booooyyyyy.

I started up on 6 again after finishing up God of War for trade.  This game is so much better.

Needs to be noted that this was for Japan-only, but given how well these games have done I'm sure we'll get them too.  Hope so since that could mean Yakuza 3 without shit cut from it.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: chronovore on May 23, 2018, 06:55:59 AM
https://www.polygon.com/2018/5/22/17380082/yakuza-ps4-remaster
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Rahxephon91 on May 23, 2018, 09:55:08 AM
I think 4 and 5 should remaster well. Those at 60FPS, cleaned up visuals, and better resolution should look almost as nice as 0. Which honestly I thought looked pretty damn good.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on May 29, 2018, 04:59:57 PM
Yakuza 3,4 and 5 remastered announced for PS4. Yeah, booooyyyyy.

I started up on 6 again after finishing up God of War for trade.  This game is so much better.

Needs to be noted that this was for Japan-only, but given how well these games have done I'm sure we'll get them too.  Hope so since that could mean Yakuza 3 without shit cut from it.

Quote
Also revealed in the video, Nagoshi states that there will not be cut content in the remasters, which is great news for those who played the PS3 originals outside Japan.

http://segabits.com/blog/2018/05/29/nagoshi-says-yakuza-3-4-and-5-remasters-are-for-new-overseas-fans-confirms-no-cut-content/

 :rejoice :rejoice :rejoice
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: kingv on May 29, 2018, 11:10:22 PM
These might be the only games I play for like the next year.

Ono-Michio!
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Kurt Russell on May 30, 2018, 02:02:16 PM
Maybe they'll be able to double the playerbase and find at least 4 westerners willing to sit through all of them

 :snore :boring :exxy
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: nachobro on May 31, 2018, 10:12:55 AM
Nice, hadn't had time to get to 6 but maybe now I'll just wait and play them in the proper order
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Purrp Skirrp on May 31, 2018, 09:01:14 PM
Never played a Yakuza game, what's the consensus on Yakuza Ishin?

Is there a likelihood now it'll be released stateside or is it too weeb for the West?

How much does Ghosts of Tsushima have to sell for Sega to think it's worth localizing?
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: kingv on June 01, 2018, 01:55:32 PM
I would take dead souls too tbh. I’d play Yakuza anything
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Svejk on June 02, 2018, 01:53:39 PM
Started Yakuza 0 last night... wtf is the deal with controls for Space Harrier?!?  Absolutely broken.  Is there a setting to change of sort?  Used the d pad and analog... analog was inverted but d-pad wasn't?
The constant defaulting to the center shit, and even at certain times.. the controller wouldn't even respond! 

Of course it was practically 4am, so who knows... gonna try it again tonight, but it felt like i was literally taking crazy pills.. 

Otherwise, so far so good.  The drama and story has been good so far and the combat is a ton of fun.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: daycru on June 04, 2018, 10:41:50 AM
Nice, hadn't had time to get to 6 but maybe now I'll just wait and play them in the proper order
The Yakuza saga is a hell of a roller coaster, and has my strongest recommendation. 0 is the best game in the series so you're starting on top.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: kingv on June 04, 2018, 11:05:47 AM
I feel like playing them all in order or release order is probably best if you can.

 I played 0,1, and now 6. I’m pretty much fine in 6, but there are definitely one or two characters that I don’t recognize but the game clearly thinks I should.

0 has references to later games too, that you won’t pick up on if you play it first. However, I also think that zero raises the stakes somewhat in Yakuza 1 because it fleshes out some of the main side characters and certain story arcs hit harder as a result.

I plan to finish 6 before playing the others, but sort of wish I had all of the remasters available now, instead.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: kingv on June 10, 2018, 02:34:23 PM
It’s definitely better than god of war...

I didn’t really like the new engine at first, coming from the 60 FPS engine it felt like a slideshow. No that I’m at about chapter 7, I see the upside of the new engine more but I’m still not sure I prefer it. The combat still feels slightly simplified to me, especially because there’s just one style.

Maybe there is a move or two that open up that really changes things, but I haven’t found it yet. I sort of preferred the old heat actions to the new setup. There are elements of all the styles in Yakuza 6, but they are sort of mixed together. I like in Yakuza 0 or Kiwami, how it was like “oh you want to wreck shop with weapons, switch to beast instead of “enter heat mode and then sort of get the beast style”.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: bork on June 11, 2018, 09:25:36 AM
Please be true!

https://twitter.com/AboveUp/status/1005985003489189888
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: bork on June 11, 2018, 12:11:15 PM
YES


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lnN-zSuD6jk
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: kingv on June 11, 2018, 12:56:15 PM
Definitely my announcement of the show
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: paprikastaude on June 11, 2018, 12:59:10 PM
Now all that's left on current gen... Ishin  :tocry
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Sho Nuff on June 11, 2018, 06:38:40 PM
YES YES YES YES YES
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: kingv on June 11, 2018, 07:05:28 PM
Now all that's left on current gen... Ishin  :tocry

How many other games are there NOT on American PS4 at this point? Other than Ishin, there’s dead souls and Kenzan, and that’s pretty much it,
Right?
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: eleuin on June 15, 2018, 12:29:04 AM
https://twitter.com/l_unaSy/status/1006712187224637440
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: kingv on June 21, 2018, 11:45:15 PM
So I just finished this up, and am watching the ending credits at the moment.

Overall, it’s a good, even excellent game, but I’m sort of disappointed all the same.

I enjoyed the enhancements of the new engine, but you can really tell that on some level there was a lot of content developed on the old engine that was never brought over to the new one. Like, there’s a lot more reuse of heat actions in 6 than 0 or Kiwami. A lot more environmental objects have unique animations in 0 then 6.

It also feels like there are less sub stories than in the older games. I’m guessing this is also because of the new engine.

I also feel like the combat is sort of dumbed down compared to zero and Kiwami. Even after almost completely maxing everything out. It’s still good... and in some ways it’s more straightforward. Occasionally, in Kiwami or zero you can run into an enemy where it’s not clear how you should approach them. Like I found high level dancing Majima freaking hard as shit in Kiwami. Nothing in 6 is really like that.

I feel like the next game on this engine will be a lot better.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Sho Nuff on June 22, 2018, 12:35:26 AM
So I just finished this up, and am watching the ending credits at the moment.

Overall, it’s a good, even excellent game, but I’m sort of disappointed all the same.

I enjoyed the enhancements of the new engine, but you can really tell that on some level there was a lot of content developed on the old engine that was never brought over to the new one. Like, there’s a lot more reuse of heat actions in 6 than 0 or Kiwami. A lot more environmental objects have unique animations in 0 then 6.

It also feels like there are less sub stories than in the older games. I’m guessing this is also because of the new engine.

I also feel like the combat is sort of dumbed down compared to zero and Kiwami. Even after almost completely maxing everything out. It’s still good... and in some ways it’s more straightforward. Occasionally, in Kiwami or zero you can run into an enemy where it’s not clear how you should approach them. Like I found high level dancing Majima freaking hard as shit in Kiwami. Nothing in 6 is really like that.

I feel like the next game on this engine will be a lot better.

Full agreement on this. Always happens when you do the new engine thing, you've got the other team going balls out on the old engine which they've shipped a billion games with and you're struggling to get to parity on the new one. It sucks a lot.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: kingv on June 25, 2018, 02:14:23 PM
So, I was rewatching the ending and it makes me curious

spoiler (click to show/hide)
I wonder how they are going to set up Yakuza 7. I feel like there will definitely be one, as it seems insane to make the dragon engine and only use it for one game, but not so sure who it will follow.

I really thought they were setting up Yuta to be the heir apparent to Kiryu, but at the end of the game I’m not so sure.

There is also the possibility that they just bring back kiryu again and his ”cover” gets blown halfway through the game.

[close]
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: kingv on June 25, 2018, 05:44:44 PM
I liked Nagumo too.

That guy kind of looks like Colin Karpernick.

No idea what they were saying in the video (probably kiryu says “Nani?!”) but he kind of looks like a Goro Majima type.

Interesting change because in a lot of ways Kiryu is sort of a blank slate of a character. He’s heroic in sort of an unbelievable way. He’s a criminal, but honorable and good and never really does the wrong thing, etc.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: TVC15 on July 01, 2018, 07:49:47 PM
I don’t like Yakuza 6. It just hasn’t grabbed me. It’s boring.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: kingv on July 01, 2018, 08:46:59 PM
I can see that.

I feel like it has some pretty good parts, but overall it’s a pretty big step back from Yakuza 0 or even Kiwami I’m a lot of ways apart from the new engine physics.

I played some of the Hokuto No Ken game at a friends house, and it feels sort of ... low budget compared to Yakuza. Like the combat seemed really iffy. I’m not sure if it’s because I can’t read any Japanese so I just don’t really understand the nuances or if it just IS a lower budget game.

I’ll still get it though.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: HardcoreRetro on July 20, 2018, 12:16:00 PM
Going for the platinum trophy in 6. Game don't seem to have the ammount of content as the other games.

Dreading the substory stuff with the hostess crap. That minigame has never been fun to me. Having Paul Lim for the darts thing is cool though. (Guy that threw the first 9-darter on tv)
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: kingv on July 20, 2018, 07:07:18 PM
I agree six seems lighter in content. It really felt like there are a lot less side stories.

Pretty sure it took less time to beat in general than 0 or Kiwami for
me.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: MMaRsu on August 01, 2018, 04:16:58 AM
So Yakuza 0 comes out today for pc. Just like 5 hours till it unlocks.

Even though I thought the game was kinda boring on PS4 I've already purchased it for Steam so I can try again.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: paprikastaude on August 01, 2018, 11:27:22 AM
(https://abload.de/img/20180801160052_1jzihb.jpg)

 :jeanluc :hhh
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Himu on August 01, 2018, 11:32:00 AM
Gross
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: bork on August 01, 2018, 11:54:05 AM
LOL, and LOL harder if it ends up being a port-up from PS3 instead of PS4.

Even though it's cheap, I think I'm gonna pass on this port unless it runs well on the GPD WIN 2.

Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: MMaRsu on August 01, 2018, 05:59:29 PM
Just hook up a controller
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: bork on August 01, 2018, 08:00:49 PM
https://twitter.com/CheapyD/status/1024723628892540930
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: thisismyusername on August 01, 2018, 09:11:51 PM
Surprise, Surprise. A first-time Japanese IP is a shit port. What's new? :doge

(Though really: Didn't Sega Europe which has a shit ton of PC companies port this? :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol )
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: BisMarckie on August 02, 2018, 07:14:01 AM
Yakuza PC port sucks? :noooo
I was looking to get into the series and it is so cheap :stahp


Can't wait until people find out that the PC version of Shenmue is running nullDC or some other old ass Dreamcast emulator code  :lol
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Rufus on August 02, 2018, 08:19:43 AM
Eh, so long as they fix it...
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: kingv on August 02, 2018, 08:58:20 AM
I thought those prices were weirdly low on Yakuza 0.

Probably best to wait on Shenmue Pc ports too.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: paprikastaude on August 02, 2018, 06:35:24 PM
tbf some people whining about lost saves just didn't know there's no auto save  :taylor
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Himu on August 02, 2018, 10:18:32 PM
tbf some people whining about lost saves just didn't know there's no auto save  :taylor

 
Pc spoiled race
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: bork on August 03, 2018, 09:13:08 AM
Yakuza 6 will be out on PC by the end of the year.  Maybe that will be a better port.   :doge

Saw on Reddit that Yakuza 0 runs at 30-35 FPS on the GPD WIN 2 at 540P with (mostly) low settings on.  That seems pretty playable.  If they get the port patched up I'll probably pick it up for this.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: kingv on August 03, 2018, 10:52:08 AM
PC gamer review actually said the port was pretty good ...

Yakuza 6 would be pretty awesome at 60 FPS.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: bork on August 03, 2018, 03:08:44 PM
Love how 'metal' the logo is!  :lol
(https://gematsu.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/Fist-of-the-North-Star-Lost-Paradise_2018_08-03-18_001-600x739.jpg)
:rock
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: kingv on August 03, 2018, 05:48:57 PM
Definitely playing this even though I was not all that impressed with it when I played 30 mins or so of a friends Japanese copy. It felt really low rent compared to Yakuza. Like sort of Platinums TMNT level production values.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Rufus on August 07, 2018, 06:22:36 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XGVbPRh5Eus
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: kingv on August 08, 2018, 12:10:31 AM
Maybe it’s just my “I been playing games for a long time and they use to look like shit”... but I’m really struggling on telling the difference, even side by side in that video.

Like we have truly hit diminishing returns or something.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Rufus on August 08, 2018, 04:53:30 AM
Well, Youtube compression plays its part of course, but you're not wrong. It's what happens when you target 1080p 60Hz on old hardware like the standard PS4. You have to get the magnifying glass out to see the differences.

I also feel advances in lighting and shadows are not as apparent to people as increased polycounts and resolutions are/were.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: paprikastaude on August 08, 2018, 04:56:42 AM
Love how 'metal' the logo is!  :lol
(https://gematsu.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/Fist-of-the-North-Star-Lost-Paradise_2018_08-03-18_001-600x739.jpg)
:rock

pretty bad compared to the OG - one can only hope it's still on the reversible.

(https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/yakuza/images/5/56/Hokuto_ga_Gotoku_Box_Art.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20171205233456)
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: kingv on August 08, 2018, 08:42:28 AM
Well, Youtube compression plays its part of course, but you're not wrong. It's what happens when you target 1080p 60Hz on old hardware like the standard PS4. You have to get the magnifying glass out to see the differences.

I also feel advances in lighting and shadows are not as apparent to people as increased polycounts and resolutions are/were.

I definitely can almost never tell the difference in shadow quality or ambient occlusion unless they go from “generally some kind of shape” to “completely gone” or “generic round blob”.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: bork on August 08, 2018, 09:35:15 AM
Both are pretty meh tbh.
(https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/483/928/fb0.jpg)
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Bebpo on August 11, 2018, 04:47:25 AM
Got Yakuza 3 PS4 since that's where I left off on the mainline series and I've always wanted to go back and catch up on 3/4/5/6/0. Played the first few hours.

Having not played one of these in a few years (last was the PS4 Samurai one), it's really fun and gripping and hard to put down. Combat definitely feels a bit dated in 3 and while the game looks nice at 60fps and sharp 1080p the sharpness kinda lets you see the lower resolution textures in cutscenes for people's faces and the cities look a little low poly and lacking lighting. It's good enough and like I said the game is gripping so finally gonna play through this one (story seems interesting so far), but it also gets me excited for playing one of the newer ones with improved graphics down the line.

Like that Yakuza 0 video above looks way better than 3 PS4 and that's not even on the new 6/2remake engine.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Bebpo on August 11, 2018, 11:19:30 PM
The golf in Y3 is kusoge levels of bad  :lol
Fishing doesn’t seem all that great either but haven’t gotten the hang of it yet.
Some dude just told me to run a cabaret club and gave me $1,000 to go hire women to work there.
Taking care of bullying problems at school as DAD.KIRYU

I know this is all like 1,000 years ago for people caught up with the series, but still fun!
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: bork on August 12, 2018, 12:11:59 AM
Picked up Yakuza 0 for PC from Fanatical on sale for $15. 

Been interesting in seeing how it runs on portables.  Found a video of it running on the GPD Win 2 at 960x544 and 30+ FPS. It's Yakuza 0 Vita edition!
:leon

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=41KFP9d-zYM

Needs a Switch port.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Bebpo on August 12, 2018, 01:38:29 AM
Ok, darts in RGG3 is terrible
And the Cabaret mini-game thing is weird because who wants to spend the time putting on make up on women and accessories and shit. Way too much effort to make the place profitable. Also more than a bit creepy pimping out women  :lol
But characters are teaching me Okinawa-ben (accent) which is pretty cool, so thumbs up.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Bebpo on August 12, 2018, 02:10:07 AM
I like the Hawaiian shirts everywhere. Definitely feels like a different part of Japan then you normally see.

But man, the beginning of this game is so slow. How many orphanage kid stories do I need to solve to get to the actual Yakuza plot? Opening with a big moment far in the future and jumping back to orphanage quests - the game is pretty evil. The life sim aspect is still great though even if most of the mini-games are terrible.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Himu on August 12, 2018, 02:26:43 AM
Okinawa part is the best part of the game. The rest is old, boring, tired yakuza. Seeing Kiryu interact with the kids and the Okinawa setting in general were a fresh breath of air for the series. Of course they had to rehash what had came before and made a non sensical story surrounding the orphanage. Game would have been better if it were just in Okinawa. My opinion.

Fuck Kamurocho past Yakuza 2 and fuck it hard. Let’s take the same location and put it in 7 games with the same places and the same stores and the same same same same. :trash Kamudogshit.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: kingv on August 12, 2018, 05:30:38 PM
Platinum tmnt?

It’s the one platinum game I think out and out is a bad game.

I could see that it might be fun if you have 4 people co-op going... but other
Than that I thought it was pretty bad.


I even like Korra  better.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Bebpo on August 13, 2018, 05:01:05 AM
About to head to Kamurocho in RGG3, story finally caught up to the intro.
I'm enjoying the story a lot and I like the new Okinawan bro Rikiya. It's good to be back in a mainline Yakuza/RGG story with the whole continuity and all that. Barely remember 1/2 though at this point.

Bosses seem to have way more health and be more bullshit than I remember but I haven't played a traditional Yakuza/RGG in like 10 years. Now I remember to stock up with lots of items.

The fishing is like the hardest fishing mini-game I've played in any rpg. I've tried a bunch of times and never been able to catch a fish. Fuck this minigame  :maf
Game definitely feels dated in a lot of ways. Compared to the last one I played, the PS4 Samurai one which was post RGG5, there's a lot that feels a step back in combat, upgrades, city, UI, etc...it's still really playable but feels kinda like playing SoTC remake where it's definitely an older game. Guessing the full remake of RGG1 & RGG2 play a lot better.

Okinawa part is the best part of the game. The rest is old, boring, tired yakuza. Seeing Kiryu interact with the kids and the Okinawa setting in general were a fresh breath of air for the series. Of course they had to rehash what had came before and made a non sensical story surrounding the orphanage. Game would have been better if it were just in Okinawa. My opinion.

Fuck Kamurocho past Yakuza 2 and fuck it hard. Let’s take the same location and put it in 7 games with the same places and the same stores and the same same same same. :trash Kamudogshit.

I like Okinawa but the city seems pretty tiny compared to my memory of Osaka and Kamurocho. Is there more than just the 1 map?

The kid stuff is fine when it's voiced cutscenes moving the story, when it's not it feels like forced sidequests for the kids to move the plot along and get back to the story. Kinda has pacing issues.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: bork on August 13, 2018, 09:09:20 AM
(https://78.media.tumblr.com/46fda79fab14f203c24d734bfd9af3d8/tumblr_ovmzbizyOk1rzclqfo1_400.png)
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Himu on August 13, 2018, 09:30:07 AM
Yeah bebpo, Okinawa is tiny and it’s a damn travesty.

Tbh I think 0 is a much better Yak game to get back into the series with than 3. 0 might be the best overall game that isnt 2. The only thing that puts 2 over 0 though is its story and Ryuji. Which are still engrossing and fantastic. 0 is also a game that for the first time since 2 manages to make Kamurocho refreshing since it’s in the 80’s.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Bebpo on August 14, 2018, 02:49:40 AM
Man, the pacing in Y3 is super fucking bad. I'm about to leave to Kamurocho and Kiryu is like "I'm going to leave first thing in the morning to sneak away before anyone notices"

Then in the morning it's like oh hey a dog, dog ran away, let's go search for the dog running around Okinawa map again, oh no dog is hungry, go buy dog food, oh no dog wants to play, go buy a toy, ok back to orphanage, oh hey another kid story thing going on, let's go investigate...

w.t.f.

I'm near dropping the game at this point. I don't mind the kid stories but they are killing the pacing hard and it's like every time there is plot movement you have to play through a bunch of kid filler quests to advance. It's really getting tedious.

Plus I hate the boss fights how they block fucking everything and then counter with a combo messing you up so you have to basically hang back and wait for them to attack, dodge around and then get a few hits in and repeat.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Himu on August 14, 2018, 02:54:42 AM
Yak 3 was when the series got long in the tooth. Sell it and bask in the gloriousness that is 0.

Skip 3 and play 0 or wait for Yak 4 port.  Or relive the the :rejoice of Yak 2 and get Kiwami 2.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Bebpo on August 14, 2018, 03:08:50 AM
Yeah, those are all good options.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Himu on August 14, 2018, 03:10:42 AM
Imo go for something new.

Get 0.

It’s incredible and RGG 1/2 quality.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: paprikastaude on August 14, 2018, 04:22:58 AM
3 takes way too long to get the point across in the beginning, but then it was still worth it for the overall story which I felt was one of the best. 4 gets much quicker into the action and has the biggest Kamurocho to explore, but the story was just shit. 0 was basically goty17, everything from gameplay and story and sidecontent comes together perfectly.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Bebpo on August 14, 2018, 04:57:02 AM
Yeah, one reason I don’t want to drop 3 is the story with the resort & army base seems pretty interesting. Once you get to Kamurocho does it pick up? I’m like 6 hours in.

I’ll probably play 0 next then 4/5/6
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: paprikastaude on August 14, 2018, 07:37:10 AM
Yes.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Himu on August 14, 2018, 08:35:51 AM
4-6? :lol Good luck.

I still liked Okinawa section better than Kamurocho in 3. I had no interest in Kamurocho in 3. Been there, done that. Zzz. Then again I like slow sections of games. So :idont
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: kingv on August 14, 2018, 12:03:00 PM
Yakuza 0 and Kiwami combined is one of my favorite gaming memories and combos.

The only weak part of Yakuza 0, imo, is that they don’t really sell Majimas transformation into his character in Kiwami all that well.

But 0 really does add a lot of context to the story in a Kiwami, and makes the major events in it have more impact.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Himu on August 14, 2018, 12:27:12 PM
I’m not the biggest Majima fan. Guy is silly and over the top and good for small gulps. He was best in 1. Mark Hamill did great with him.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: kingv on August 14, 2018, 02:28:32 PM
That was Mark Hamill?!

Also: Mark hamill speaks Japanese?!
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: paprikastaude on August 14, 2018, 02:45:33 PM
The og PS2 game had an english dub with Mark Hamill and Michael Madsen.  :-\
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Himu on August 14, 2018, 05:58:01 PM
The dub wasn’t terrible but yeahhhh, mark was the main highlight.

Suffice to say, was amazing playing Yakuza 2 with English subs. Hasn’t been a dubbed yakuza game since 1. And since that bombed they haven’t tried again. I wonder if they’ll start doing it again now that it’s cult status.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Rahxephon91 on August 14, 2018, 07:58:32 PM
Lets hope they don't.  Yakuza 1's dub was awful.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Himu on August 14, 2018, 08:54:56 PM
I mean, that doesn’t mean that another dub would be.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Rahxephon91 on August 14, 2018, 09:08:13 PM
No one wants to play a Yakuza game in English. That is an idiotic proposition. Especially as the game's faces are photo realistic to the Japanese actors they are displaying and a selling point is that actual Japanese movie actors are in the game. It would be a huge waste of money for Sega and yes the dub would be bad, as they would probably only give it to the same dubbing studios that dub every single anime/anime game out there. It's not like the series is actually big enough to pay for a dub that would move out of the anime dubbing scene. There are hardly any dubbed games with as good voice acting as Yakuza 0 so why even ask for Sega to waste money when the Japanese track is a selling point for the series authenticity?
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Himu on August 14, 2018, 09:34:31 PM
It isn’t an idiotic proposition because being exclusively in Japanese limits its audience. And as the series grows more popular an English dub will be necessary to get more traction. This doesn’t mean taking out the option play subbed. Unless you want yakuza to remain cult status forever, Sega will have to eventually give it a dub. I expect the next the next game with the new main character will have the biggest push for the series since 1 on ps2 and will have a dub.

Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Rahxephon91 on August 14, 2018, 09:40:28 PM
Yakuza is never moving out of cult status. Giving it an English dub is'nt going to all of a sudden make the series sell millions and appeal to more people. If the fact that the game is'nt English voiced is a turn off then you were never going to play the game anyway.

Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Bebpo on August 15, 2018, 03:24:54 AM
I do think it’s funny how they dubbed it to try to make it a big success in the West and if bombed, then they cheaper out and went sub only and it did good.

Talk about Sega USA totally misreading the audience.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: paprikastaude on August 15, 2018, 03:25:55 AM
What's actually more limiting is that the games are only available in English throughout Europe. Maybe we can talk about dubs after they reach the most basic localisation standards.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Himu on August 15, 2018, 03:55:25 AM
I do think it’s funny how they dubbed it to try to make it a big success in the West and if bombed, then they cheaper out and went sub only and it did good.

Talk about Sega USA totally misreading the audience.

Lol

This isn’t what happened at all.

Yakuza 2 bombed even worse than 1 despite being subbed. Yakuza games were in such bad limbo that people waited years for 5 to come out. People weren’t even sure if 5 WAS going to come out in English.

Yakuza has picked up only recently because of 0 and because it was on ps4 and the 360 kids who said ps3 have no game and ignored ps2 games post-2005 finally got a taste of wacky kiryu time. Even then, the numbers aren’t that high.

There is an almost ten year gap between yakuza 2’s release in America and yakuza actually gaining an audience and it sure as fuck wasn’t because yakuza 1 was dubbed.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Himu on August 15, 2018, 04:09:20 AM
Yakuza 1 bombed for a multitude of reasons:

- bad trailer. English dub trailer came out a few weeks before the release. SHOTEH FOCK OP turne off people who would have been interested.

- people thought it was gta in Japan. When it wasn’t that they turned off of it. Again, gamer expectations makes head meet desk.

- combat was kind of stiff in 1. Fighting multiple enemies was blah and it didn’t have the more smooth combat that was ironed out in 2.

- demo in OPM was limited. Was just a fight with Yuya iirc and combat in Yak 1 was stiff. Not the best way to show off what Yakuza is about.

- long load times. Just showed the ps2 was showing its age. This was when each battle had an intro of who you were fighting and you had to wait for the actual battle to load like an rpg. Turning off “where’s gta in japan?” people off even more.

- lack of marketing on Sega USA’s part. Not a single commercial despite Hammil and Madsen in the cast.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Himu on August 15, 2018, 04:20:09 AM
Aforementioned trailer.

Man, 1 still has the best heat attack animations.

https://youtu.be/cBv3k6r4Mik

TLDR I’m old
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: bork on August 15, 2018, 08:14:50 AM
Yakuza is really a niche game series made for a niche audience, and considering that, it has done incredibly well.  I do remember it being called the "Japanese GTA" and that was a bad description.  Also disagree on the dub killing any potential sales- it being in English absolutely made sense for the time and a broader audience...but it didn't sell.

It's interesting seeing recent comments that Microsoft and Nintendo now want the series on their consoles- the last time it got ported was the Wii U "HD" versions of 1 and 2, and the game pretty much bombed IIRC.  Sold like sub-2,000 copies the first week.  But obviously times have changed and the series finally started getting popular worldwide recently.  I am surprised that they are localizing the Fist Of The North Star game, however- I expect that to not do well or even bomb outright.  Am glad it's getting an English and physical release, though!

I just hope that we get a physical copy of Yakuza 5 when it gets the "more HD" treatment.  Sucks that it was the lone mainline game in the series to be digital-only.  Limited Run Games tried to get a production run of the PS3 version, but Sega turned them down.  :maf  (They recently announced that two PS3 games were coming, and while I doubt it...I keep hoping one of them is Y5 after Sega changed their minds or something, heh)

And please...PLEASE localize the two samurai games, Sega.  And port up the two PSP games too. :punch
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Himu on August 15, 2018, 09:45:11 AM
Yeah pretty much every game was dubbed back in the day. This was a time when Sony had a mandate. I was so shocked Yakuza 2 could get away being subbed on a Sony system.

However, I’m talking about niche gamers. I remember on gaf when that trailer dropped many who were going to get it didn’t because the dub. Didn’t play a big part in why it didn’t take off but since we agree this is a niche series for a niche audience people on niche gaming enthusiast boards thought the dub was bad enough to make the game a skip.

Lmao they’ll never do the psp games. Samurai games though, I’m expecting a Kenzan port announced soon to ps4.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: bork on August 15, 2018, 11:58:32 AM
However, I’m talking about niche gamers. I remember on gaf when that trailer dropped many who were going to get it didn’t because the dub. Didn’t play a big part in why it didn’t take off but since we agree this is a niche series for a niche audience people on niche gaming enthusiast boards thought the dub was bad enough to make the game a skip.

I doubt that many people interested in the game didn't end up playing or buying it because of the dub.
:idont


Lmao they’ll never do the psp games. Samurai games though, I’m expecting a Kenzan port announced soon to ps4.

With the popularity increasing, I could see them doing an HD port-up on both games.  Whether or not it would be localized is another story.  :doge
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Himu on August 15, 2018, 11:59:44 AM
Other samurai game came out on ps4 already
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: bork on August 15, 2018, 12:58:53 PM
Other samurai game came out on ps4 already

Sorry, meant both PSP games.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: kingv on August 15, 2018, 02:34:20 PM
Describing Yakuza as Japanese GTA is inaccurate and yet, it’s hard for me to come up with a better descriptor that’s reasonably succinct.

It’s definitely a niche formula, but I think one of the difficulties people have with it is that it’s a difficult game to understand what it’s like without playing it. I showed Yakuza 0 to a few friends who then immediately bought it on PSN, but they didn’t really have much interest until actually playing it.

Its sort of a weird series, because the sum is definitely greater than its parts. Like none of the systems or story or whatever are really all that amazing on their own, but they come together very well.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: paprikastaude on August 15, 2018, 04:45:54 PM
Yakuza is an anti-mobbing simulator with karaoke.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: chronovore on August 15, 2018, 07:10:14 PM
Describing Yakuza as Japanese GTA is inaccurate and yet, it’s hard for me to come up with a better descriptor that’s reasonably succinct.

It’s definitely a niche formula, but I think one of the difficulties people have with it is that it’s a difficult game to understand what it’s like without playing it. I showed Yakuza 0 to a few friends who then immediately bought it on PSN, but they didn’t really have much interest until actually playing it.

Its sort of a weird series, because the sum is definitely greater than its parts. Like none of the systems or story or whatever are really all that amazing on their own, but they come together very well.

"Open-world brawler."

You're welcome.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Himu on August 15, 2018, 07:52:19 PM
When the game first came out many players (even bebpo iirc) labeled it an rpg. It had random battles, battle transitions, and experience points used to level up. :yeshrug
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: bork on August 15, 2018, 08:18:59 PM
Describing Yakuza as Japanese GTA is inaccurate and yet, it’s hard for me to come up with a better descriptor that’s reasonably succinct.

It’s definitely a niche formula, but I think one of the difficulties people have with it is that it’s a difficult game to understand what it’s like without playing it. I showed Yakuza 0 to a few friends who then immediately bought it on PSN, but they didn’t really have much interest until actually playing it.

Its sort of a weird series, because the sum is definitely greater than its parts. Like none of the systems or story or whatever are really all that amazing on their own, but they come together very well.

"Open-world brawler."

You're welcome.

"Shen Mue done right."
 :beetlejuice
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Himu on August 15, 2018, 08:54:02 PM
*curls fist like Arthur*
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: bork on August 15, 2018, 10:54:49 PM
 :woooo
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: kingv on August 15, 2018, 11:07:02 PM
Describing Yakuza as Japanese GTA is inaccurate and yet, it’s hard for me to come up with a better descriptor that’s reasonably succinct.

It’s definitely a niche formula, but I think one of the difficulties people have with it is that it’s a difficult game to understand what it’s like without playing it. I showed Yakuza 0 to a few friends who then immediately bought it on PSN, but they didn’t really have much interest until actually playing it.

Its sort of a weird series, because the sum is definitely greater than its parts. Like none of the systems or story or whatever are really all that amazing on their own, but they come together very well.

"Open-world brawler."

You're welcome.

I feel like that sort of buckets it in with Hulk Ultimate destruction and/or the prototype games. Maybe something like most Spider-Man games circa 10 years ago or so. It’s not inaccurate, but it’s also not exactly accurate.

In a sense I think it has more in common with GTA in some ways.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Bebpo on August 16, 2018, 01:13:55 AM
Welp, helped pick out goofy american clothes for a kid and then played zzz baseball with a bunch of kids on the beach in Y3. Now I think I'm finally going to Kamurocho for real. This is not a good game for when you only have 30-45 mins a day to play.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: kingv on August 16, 2018, 09:51:51 AM
Baseball in Yakuza 6 is boring as hell too.

That minigame is not the flavor. The only good mini games really are ones where you’re pimping, talking to these instathots, going to the club, or watching porno.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: bork on August 16, 2018, 12:29:01 PM
Welp, helped pick out goofy american clothes for a kid and then played zzz baseball with a bunch of kids on the beach in Y3. Now I think I'm finally going to Kamurocho for real. This is not a good game for when you only have 30-45 mins a day to play.

IIRC Yakuza 0 already has an easy config file modification that allows you to save anywhere.  The series is already best on PC.
:rejoice
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Bebpo on August 16, 2018, 02:46:47 PM
Welp, helped pick out goofy american clothes for a kid and then played zzz baseball with a bunch of kids on the beach in Y3. Now I think I'm finally going to Kamurocho for real. This is not a good game for when you only have 30-45 mins a day to play.

IIRC Yakuza 0 already has an easy config file modification that allows you to save anywhere.  The series is already best on PC.
:rejoice

The series actually has a billion save points so you can save like every 5 mins and that's not a problem. I meant more like not much happens in 30-45 mins of Yakuza playing. It's a game that needs a lot of time commitment to feel like you're actually making progress. Which is fine, a lot of rpgs are like that. Just those games are tough to play when you don't have a lot of free gaming time.

Baseball in Yakuza 6 is boring as hell too.

That minigame is not the flavor. The only good mini games really are ones where you’re pimping, talking to these instathots, going to the club, or watching porno.

Yeah, idk. The series has like a million mini-games but most of them are terrible and feel like they spent 3 hours making them. I'd rather have fewer mini-games but good quality ones tbh.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: kingv on August 16, 2018, 03:56:29 PM


The batting cage  one might be fun but I find it really freaking hard. Same with darts and pool. Like I don’t need a video games to reinforce that  I suck at those things.

Karaoke is not bad though. Some of the videos get really freaking weird with strange costumes and shit.

I sort of liked the one where you bet on women’s wrestling in 0, but it felt pretty random.

Definitely the best ones are Cabaret King and Video Chat for pure comedy value.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Bebpo on August 17, 2018, 02:52:08 AM
Ok, once I finalllllllly got to Kamurocho (and by finally, I mean when he said OK I'M FINALLY LEAVING TO MY PLANE...there was still another hour of side-stuff with the couple on the beach, marketing with Haruka, playing hide & seek with the kids), the pacing picked up pretty fast. Just got the base in the bar and off to find one of the 4 boss dudes.

Every.single.mini.game.sucks

Like they introduce CHASES where you dash and jump over objects and can tackle. And it's kinda crappy but ok I guess. But then they use it for RUNNING FROM COPS MINI-GAME and you can't even tell where to go and dudes are grabbing you and it's just all kinds of bullshit. Then there's an easy but zzz section where you have sneak walk by cops on the street.

I'm digging the story, but everything about the gameplay feels kinda so-so. Even the combat feels pretty limited and stale at this point. I'm getting some new moves but they're all really specific context sensitive so the majority of fights are just PPPPK over and over while R1+X strafe dodging and grabbing whatevers around to hit with.

Hmmm, just looked at the wiki for the first time and man I missed a lot of sidequests in Okinawa. Good thing it seems like they aren't chapter limited. Will use the guide once I go back in Okinawa and will use it for Kamurocho for sidequest hunting. I forgot how hidden sidequests are in these games.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Himu on August 17, 2018, 02:59:06 AM
Yakuza 3 sucks :yeshrug

Play 0.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Bebpo on August 17, 2018, 02:59:52 AM
Yakuza 3 sucks :yeshrug

Play 0.

But the story is pretty good and Okinawa is chill.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Himu on August 17, 2018, 03:05:20 AM
I told you okinawa was chill. Yakuza and sleepy atmosphere just fits  really, really well.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Himu on August 17, 2018, 03:08:28 AM
the combat in rgg3 never gets better btw.

i just mashed pppkk or whatever the whole game. 1 and 2 required far more maximization of game systems and moves and had a much better difficulty.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Bebpo on August 17, 2018, 03:16:26 AM
Yeah, that's a bummer. The combat in the samurai ones were shallow but at least had more variety than this.

Also you can stop telling me to play 0. That's the next RGG/Yakuza game I will play after 3.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Himu on August 17, 2018, 03:17:09 AM
:lol

Sorry
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Valkyrie on August 17, 2018, 04:16:41 AM
Never played Yakuza before but I really wanna try 0.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: bork on August 17, 2018, 09:31:27 AM
Bebpo, you need to play Yakuza 0.
:ufup

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Bebpo, you need to play Yakuza 0.
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Bebpo, you need to play Yakuza 0.
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Bet you thought this was going to say "Bebpo, you need to play Yakuza 0.
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Bebpo, you need to play Yakuza 0.
:ufup
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Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: paprikastaude on August 17, 2018, 09:54:49 AM
Never played Yakuza before but I really wanna try 0.

Get it.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Valkyrie on August 17, 2018, 01:09:04 PM
I bought it. We lit, bois.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Bebpo on August 19, 2018, 11:42:35 PM
I'm enjoying Y3's gameplay a lot more now that I'm focusing on collecting and doing sidequests while just life-sim-ing around town doing various activities. A lot of the side quests are great, too bad you need to use a faq/wiki to find them all.

The bowling mini-game while having absolutely terrible physics, is sorta fun in a I-love-all-bowling-games-since-NES-days kinda way. Almost got a Turkey, ended up with a 48 in 3-frame and beat the dude working there which was fun. The split mini-game where you have to take down as many splits as possible in 10 balls is some bullshit with these physics though lol

The batting mini-game is also, not amazing, but pretty alright. I like how there's a digital video of a real pitcher doing the throw right before the ball shoots out. I never went to any batting cages in Japan but if they're all like that, it's pretty next-level compared to the stuff I grew up on here in the states. Especially if they have the crazy stuff in this game where you hit different numbers and things to unlock a target for higher points.

It's been a while since I played a RGG/Yakuza game, so I'm starting to get back in the groove of how to really enjoy these games. The moment to moment gameplay isn't perfect and is often kinda janky, but if you're going around doing lots of stuff and immersing yourself it's a really fun experience.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Bebpo on August 20, 2018, 03:02:07 AM
So I was curious to see what cities the rest of the Yakuza games use, since I stopped following the mainline ones after 3.

So like:
1 is Tokyo
2 adds Osaka
3 adds (small) Okinawa
4 is only Kamurocho (???)
5 adds Fukuoka, Sapporo and Nagoya
6 adds Hiroshima
0 is 80s Tokyo & Osaka

So, uh, what’s up with 4? It’s literally an entire long ass game in only Kamurocho? That sounds whack.

How big are the non-kamurocho cities in 5&6? Osaka size was fine in 2, but man Okinawa is super small in 3.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: paprikastaude on August 20, 2018, 03:06:22 AM
4 has rooftops and undergrounds which they then cut again for later games.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Bebpo on August 20, 2018, 04:00:04 AM
4 has rooftops and undergrounds which they then cut again for later games.

That doesn’t really sound as interesting as a new city.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Himu on August 20, 2018, 04:12:40 AM
4 has rooftops and undergrounds which they then cut again for later games.

That doesn’t really sound as interesting as a new city.
4 stars multiple characters so it makes up for it
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Bebpo on August 21, 2018, 04:18:09 AM
Damn, was reading around for Y3 missables, because 2 of the camera blog moves that are supposed to be available aren’t there for me right now, and stumbled upon a major spoiler that sucks.

spoiler (click to show/hide)
I saw a comment that Rikiya dies in the end ;_;

He’s my favorite new character in the series. I really like him. Bummed that he doesn’t make it through this one ;_; I was thinking he’d make a cool playable character in a later game.
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Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Himu on August 21, 2018, 10:02:20 AM
I mean, no different than Shinji. Any time Kiryu has a young upstart with him is bad news for that guy.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Bebpo on August 23, 2018, 02:17:27 AM
Getting kind of burnt out on the substories in Y3. Been catching up on the 50ish substories from the first 2 chapters in Kamurocho and even though most are short, it’s a lot. Plus some have requirements to trigger them. Haven’t advanced the main story in a few days, just doing 5-10 sidequests per session. Down to about 20 left and once I hit ch.7 another 20ish are added. /sigh

I think I was around 10-12 hours at the start of Ch.6, and now I’m 20 hours+

Some are great, some are basically fight some punks. Series could definitely do with a bit of fat trimming.

Main reason I feel compelled to do them now instead of post main story is they pay out good XP and help me level my skills and get new abilities.

But yeah, after doing these last 20 in ch.6 I may just say fuck it and stick to the main story, at least until I’m back in Okinawa and do the Okinawa quests at least.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Bebpo on August 23, 2018, 03:24:50 PM
So I was up last night and curious about how things improve in game design, ui design, combat design, graphics-design as the series progressed from Y3 onwards. Watched some videos and read reviews of all the games that came after that. My takeaway is that Y4 is basically just Y3 repackaged with 4 main characters and everything that's weak about Y3 will be weak in Y4 except combat should be a bit better with the 4 characters.

Then it sounds like Y5 improves with a new engine. So improves the graphics, improves the UI (quicker into/out of random street battles, thank god I like the wind-up intros for bosses or story stuff but there's so many goddamn street encounters [encounter rate is way too high in Y3 on the street] and the animations are zzz), adds lots of new locations and new gameplay ideas and does a bit more with the Y4 characters and combat. It seems super lengthy and bloated, but a strong improvement over Y3/Y4. I think I read they start voicing more of the game from Y5 onwards.

Then Y0 sounds hot shit, a bit shorter/smaller, but refinement of Y5's UI improvements and graphics & engine, good story/pacing.

Then Y6 comes in with a new engine again, this time combat is changed up and supposed to be pretty awesome, nice graphics, no loads, fully voiced. Sounds good.

And Kiwami 1 basically just sounds like Y0 with RGG1 story, and Kiwami 2 is refinement of Y6 engine/improvements with RGG2 story.


Coming from all that...I'm not going to play Y0 next. Sorry Cindi. I think going back to Y4 after Y0 would be pretty bad and frustrating to get through. It sounds like at the end of the day now that RGG1&2 have been remade with more modern gameplay, that 3&4 are gameplay/ui/graphics/presentation-wise now the low parts of the series. So I think it's better for me to get through Y3 and then play Y4 (and probably play Y5) before Y0 and then Y6. I think playing them in the order released will let me appreciate the improvements the team keeps making year after year.

Right now I'm not interested in playing Kiwami 1&2 because I already played those stories. But after I finish Y6 (and Fist of the North Star Yakuza) and there's no "new" stories I'll probably go back and play Kiwami 1&2 which should both hold up fine a couple years down the line.

Apparently Y4 PS4 is coming in the fall (no release date yet, so probably late fall), and Y5 PS4 in Spring 2019 (so then I'd play Y0 next summer, Y6 in the fall), so that sounds like a good spacing to play the series. Trying to play these games more than one every 3-6 months is easy burnout.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Himu on August 23, 2018, 03:36:29 PM
5’s story isn’t that great and the series gets long winded after 3. 3 for all intents and purposes should have been the last Kiryu game. The stories get more and more dumb are further away from what made 1 and 2 stories great. The reason 0 gets so much praise is because it’s a return to form on the quality that was in 1 and 2. I think the series experiences a massive quality downgrade as time goes on but hey, you might disagree. You’re free to form your own opinion. :)

 
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Joe Molotov on August 23, 2018, 03:37:13 PM
Just wait for Kiwami 4.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Bebpo on August 23, 2018, 03:48:39 PM
5’s story isn’t that great and the series gets long winded after 3. 3 for all intents and purposes should have been the last Kiryu game. The stories get more and more dumb are further away from what made 1 and 2 stories great. The reason 0 gets so much praise is because it’s a return to form on the quality that was in 1 and 2. I think the series experiences a massive quality downgrade as time goes on but hey, you might disagree. You’re free to form your own opinion. :)

That sentence doesn't make sense. Even though 0 is a prequel it still comes in the scheme of development that goes 3->4->5->Isshin -> Y0 -> Kiwami 1 -> Y6 -> Kiwami 2.

From what I'm getting from you is that when it hits Y0 the series gets back to being good again after 3->4->5 being long winded and the stories going downhill.
But if Y0 is the team getting back on the right track, and the games continue to introduce improvements in everything non-story each game, shouldn't that mean Y6 continues that?

Or are you saying the team has been downhill for the last 10 years and they got lucky with Y0 and it's just the one game that is good.

Also even if Y5/Y6's stories are not that good, just having improvements in the gameplay will go along way for me. While I like good stories, I'm ok with bad stories that are entertaining with good gameplay. Like one of my biggest issues with Y3 is the combat is not satisfying/fun. The fights are too short, enemies too easy, and moveset is too limited. So it's just a hurdle in the way of the side stories/main stories. So I'm looking forward to the combat starting to change up from Y4 onwards each game.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Bebpo on August 23, 2018, 03:53:14 PM
Also when I was reading reviews of all the games, including Kiwami 2, everything about Kiwami 2 sounds GREAT except wtf they cut the Shinsekai map entirely because they didn't have the time/budget to remake it in modern graphics. That sucks hard. It's a small map but it's a pretty iconic part of Osaka that was cool to have in RGG/Y2:

(https://i.imgur.com/YMLv6dPh.jpg) (https://i.imgur.com/8RyojIAl.jpg)

Seems like the only stain on an otherwise great game with Kiwami 2.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Himu on August 23, 2018, 04:02:25 PM
I haven’t played 6 and I have no interest in playing it so I can’t compare it to 0.

I’m not saying the games are even bad or that they had a ten year dry period. Do you still play Ace Attorney games? Well let’s make a similar analogy. How many times do I have to play as Phoenix Wright? What changed in continuity and story are there? How much longer can they keep this up? You have games that at one point had a reason to exist turn into milk cash cows that feel been there, done that to the point of deja vu. And while I won’t begrudge anyone can stomach these games for more than its alleged 10, 11? entries, it comes to a point where we should ask how much longer should I play these games if the only reason it seems to exist is for Sega to have a regular milk cow and to fund Nagoshi’s travel expenses so he can fuck beautiful women and get skin cancer inducing tans every year? If you’re a die hard (and who am I to judge? I love Musou), maybe you can stomach it. But I can’t, and even I’m a big fan.

Sometimes it’s best to let things die.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Bebpo on August 23, 2018, 07:39:21 PM
Oh, you're just tired of the franchise. Yeah, I fully understand. I dropped Phoenix Wright around game 3 and even changing protagonists doesn't make a difference since it's the same formula.

I actually don't mind Kiryu being the lead. If they made 100 games with good improving gameplay and entertaining stories in varied locals I'd be fine with Kiryu in every one of them like Link is in every Zelda. The stuff that burns me out on Yakuza (and I was there too, I mean I dropped the series at Y3 because of burn out after 1->2->Kenzan -> 3 and only came back once for Isshin in the last 9 years) is the combat/gameplay being repetitive and the same old same old location with Kamurocho. Kiryu being the MC for each game doesn't bother me at all, but maybe I'll feel different after playing 4/5 with new leads.

Kiryu reminds me a lot of Luffy from One Piece. He's just the most likeable heart of gold, saves kittens out of trees and gives the smack down to anyone that deserves it, character ever so I'm fine with him.

Ideally I'd like to see them continue to do more games like Kenzan and Isshin where it's a different setting/characters but they're played by the digital actors of Kiryu and other mainstay RGG members. It was a brilliant idea, and I'd like to see them do other settings than just samurai samurai samurai. Obviously the RGG/Yakuza engine fucking sucks at non-melee combat so that's the only limiting factor. They could probably do a sci-fi setting on a space colony where guns were prohibited because of danger of blasting holes in the colony.

Fwiw, I remember Kenzan, where you play the story of Musashi, being really good story-wise and Isshin I don't remember anything about it because the story is just ok and bloated (was during that Y4/Y5 era).

I'm hoping that after they port 3/4/5 to PS4 and release them in the west (they've already stated the only reason they are porting 3/4/5 PS3 -> PS4 is for the western audience, so they are coming for sure), that they'll port Kenzan from PS3->PS4 next and localize and release it. I think it'd sell pretty well since Yakuza has a strong western audience now and people would be excited for something different like a samurai epic where you play as Miyamoto Musashi.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: bork on August 23, 2018, 08:34:41 PM
I think it'd sell pretty well since Yakuza has a strong western audience now and people would be excited for something different like a samurai epic where you play as Miyamoto Musashi.

Or Kenshiro.   ;)
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Bebpo on August 25, 2018, 01:26:32 PM
Still working on the sidequests and hitman missions. It turns out 2 of the sidequests I was stuck on that weren't activating are because they were cut from the PS4 port. One is the Answer x Answer mini-game in Club Sega which is a Japanese history trivia mini-game was cut probably due to upcoming localization (wasn't in the US PS3 version) and the sidequest associated with it was cut. Also apparently there was a whole quest chain about "oh no run from the trans person!" which they felt ashamed of and so they cut it which makes sense.

Btw, the chase/running from stuff is SO BAD. I hear it's really only a thing in Y3 & Y4 so I'll be glad when I'm past those games and never have to run from people again. Chasing people isn't as bad, but running from people where you have no idea what the path the game wants you to take and have to keep dying over and over figuring it out is super fucking annoying. There's a sidequest where you have to run from super runner man and I don't know if I'm even gonna bother finishing that one and learning the route.

I'm still torn between whether Yakuza games are a better experience:

A) Doing all the sidequests 100%, constantly stopping the main story and grabbing a wiki and finding all of them between each chapter's events

or

B) Just naturally playing through the story and exploring and doing mini-games at your own pace and taking care of any sidequests you happen to run into along the way


I think B is more fun and enjoyable pacing, but man when I do it that way I miss like 75% of the sidequests in the game, and as I mentioned some of the sidequests are really great little stories, so it sucks to miss the bulk of them. I think I'd actually be fine with a more standard AAA thing where every chapter all the sidequests appear on the map with a little "!" icon so you don't have to wiki and can just go around and do them as you progress the story.

Also I started doing the YF10 simulator thing where you replay bosses in Virtual Fighter mode to unlock their weapons and I still have no idea how you're supposed to fight the big dude Kanda you fight in the Sauna room. I only beat him in the main story using a ton of health items because everytime you attack him he just fucking counters you hard in the middle of your combo even if you're coming in from an opening. Also his moves all have yellow/red glow to them so I don't think you can do standard counters? So I'm not sure how to even hit him without getting hit back and taking a lot of damage.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yIXBfPVKkG8

Hmmm, that gives me some ideas. Looks like you can counter all his stuff, but I don't think you can have so much heat in the simulator one. Gotta try that again.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Himu on August 25, 2018, 01:36:41 PM
Oh, you're just tired of the franchise. Yeah, I fully understand. I dropped Phoenix Wright around game 3 and even changing protagonists doesn't make a difference since it's the same formula.

I actually don't mind Kiryu being the lead. If they made 100 games with good improving gameplay and entertaining stories in varied locals I'd be fine with Kiryu in every one of them like Link is in every Zelda. The stuff that burns me out on Yakuza (and I was there too, I mean I dropped the series at Y3 because of burn out after 1->2->Kenzan -> 3 and only came back once for Isshin in the last 9 years) is the combat/gameplay being repetitive and the same old same old location with Kamurocho. Kiryu being the MC for each game doesn't bother me at all, but maybe I'll feel different after playing 4/5 with new leads.

Kiryu reminds me a lot of Luffy from One Piece. He's just the most likeable heart of gold, saves kittens out of trees and gives the smack down to anyone that deserves it, character ever so I'm fine with him.

Ideally I'd like to see them continue to do more games like Kenzan and Isshin where it's a different setting/characters but they're played by the digital actors of Kiryu and other mainstay RGG members. It was a brilliant idea, and I'd like to see them do other settings than just samurai samurai samurai. Obviously the RGG/Yakuza engine fucking sucks at non-melee combat so that's the only limiting factor. They could probably do a sci-fi setting on a space colony where guns were prohibited because of danger of blasting holes in the colony.

Fwiw, I remember Kenzan, where you play the story of Musashi, being really good story-wise and Isshin I don't remember anything about it because the story is just ok and bloated (was during that Y4/Y5 era).

I'm hoping that after they port 3/4/5 to PS4 and release them in the west (they've already stated the only reason they are porting 3/4/5 PS3 -> PS4 is for the western audience, so they are coming for sure), that they'll port Kenzan from PS3->PS4 next and localize and release it. I think it'd sell pretty well since Yakuza has a strong western audience now and people would be excited for something different like a samurai epic where you play as Miyamoto Musashi.

Playing the same character who has no character development in the same locations with the same gameplay gets tiring after 3-4 entries. I consider yakuza games story based games so I place them on a different set of expectations than I would with Musou or even a Mega Man game.

Imo they should have followed the Final Fantasy or Dragon Quest rule of old. Or better yet, GTA. Every new entry should star a new character. In a new city or even a small town. With a new different timeline. Kenzan for example should have just been RGG3 rather than a spin off. This allows them to tackle different concepts and ideas. Like say, playing as a lady yakuza. Or going back to the time when the first yakuza were made. Or have a 1970’s one. By having Kiryu and Kamurocho as center pieces the games are limited in what they can do and what they can be. And let’s be honest: Kiryu’s story should have ended after 1. It’s the perfect ending: everyone he cared for is dead. The woman he loves is dead, his best friend, his surrogate father. But he has Haruka, the daughter of the woman he loved, and raises her as his own. It’s a bitter sweet ending. Everything after that is filler. Then you could have a new character and then they’ll run into Kiryu like you ran in GTAIII’s protagonist in San Andreas and you get an update on Kiryu and see he owns an orphanage now and everything then he continues living his life. Instead we get the same shit for 15 years.

It’s just limited. In both scope and creativity.

It’s a complaint I have with other games like assassin’s creed games. Here you have a series where you can go back in time but for some reason they mostly stuck with European locations and middle age timelines when you could do anything you wanted. Eventually they drop the Isaac timeline in general. And the game series is just running on fumes with no vision, no creativity. Just hash that shit out every fucking year when there’s so many possibilities at your finger tips. Eventually they wisened up with Origins.

Meanwhile, game series with expansive worlds like Suikoden are dead. It makes me want to gag. Games are shit.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: HardcoreRetro on August 25, 2018, 03:17:35 PM
AC Origins is arguably still an European history game since the Ptolemys ruled Egypt under Greece's control. Even the first game, even though it takes place in the Levant, takes most of it's historic data from the Third Crusade.

The only time they tried were those 2.5D games nobody played. AC Chronicles India, China and Russia I think.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: paprikastaude on August 25, 2018, 03:47:28 PM
???
AC is the only thing doing what it does thematically outside of rts on PC. The range of its settings is also huge. In fact, it's a shame no one else does anything remotely similar and all these backdrops are wasted on its shit gameplay.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: HardcoreRetro on August 25, 2018, 05:00:53 PM
Wow, next you're gonna call out her middle ages timeline thing.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Himu on August 25, 2018, 05:07:25 PM
It's in a centralized location. Assassin's Creed is mostly western settings. What diversity? Maybe I'm wrong.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: paprikastaude on August 25, 2018, 06:33:37 PM
1789 France is a completely different from Ancient Greece, completely different than whatever they did with colonies and pirates and the things in the early series. It doesn't need to have the millionth game in eastern Asia to easily have some of the most varied locales, which also no one else tackles (and I don't even play that shit). Especially compared to your example GTA, which was Miami and a bunch of times New York and Los Angeles.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Himu on August 25, 2018, 06:38:36 PM
GTA has Miami, Vegas, San Francisco, New York, and LA and each other those times they re-use cities they're done in a completely different manner. But I see your point.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: HardcoreRetro on August 26, 2018, 04:12:11 AM
AC's settings are: Third Crusade, Renaissance, Ottoman empire, American Revolution, Golden age of piracy,  French revolution, Victorian England, Ptolemy Egypt and now Ancient Greece.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Bebpo on August 31, 2018, 03:42:54 AM
Finally caught up on all the Kamurocho sidequests in Y3 and back to the main story. Now I'm in the daytime Kamurocho in ch.7 and you know, for being an early PS3-era sub-720p game, Y3 still looks pretty nice. Especially at 1080p with perfect AA in this PS4 remaster. The store signs and textures are all really sharp. The only weak spots is there's no real lighting engine and the NPCs look kinda PS2.5-ish complete with low-res textures. But the main characters and city look good enough.

Also Rikiya is like the best non-Kiryu character in RGG1-3 so far.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: paprikastaude on August 31, 2018, 07:59:36 AM
That Dragon Engine :lawd Been going through Sotenbori just making photos.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: kingv on August 31, 2018, 10:24:52 AM
You start up with Kiwami 2? I have it, but put it aside for a bit. I know Destiny 2 forsaken and spider man will keep me busy for a few weeks, so don’t want to start something long before it drops. Will probably play through that and fist of the North Star in pretty quick succession
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: paprikastaude on August 31, 2018, 03:56:22 PM
:wag Making sidequest-location-revealer the first skill to get is a no-no. That shit needs to be out in any future iteration or way late-game like in 0.

Also the new combat seemed refreshing at first, but it's clearly still far away from the level of 0 in Kiwami 2 still.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Bebpo on August 31, 2018, 07:35:10 PM
They have a sidequest location revealer in later games??????????? :o

I’m literally playing Y3 with an iPad on my lap and constantly switching between looking at the tv and looking at the iPad for the next sidequest location.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Bebpo on September 01, 2018, 02:12:02 AM
I don't understand how 6 and Kiwami 2 can have worse combat than 0? Isn't 0 just the same combat as 4/5 except giving the moves of the other 3 MCs as "styles" for Kiryu? Also I feel like they keep adding more to the combat each game, so it'd be weird for the combat to go backwards for 6 and Kiwami 2.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: kingv on September 01, 2018, 02:40:39 AM
ah, so kiwami 2 didn't add much to the combat from 6?

That kind of sucks. definitely the weakest part of dragon engine.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: paprikastaude on September 01, 2018, 09:32:38 AM
They have a sidequest location revealer in later games??????????? :o

I’m literally playing Y3 with an iPad on my lap and constantly switching between looking at the tv and looking at the iPad for the next sidequest location.

It was an item at the end of 0, which is okay for completionists. But if you put it straight into the beginning, the game stops feeling like walking the earth as Japanese Jesus like it should and instead like another ubisoft checklist.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Bebpo on September 02, 2018, 03:26:29 PM
Here I am enjoying fighting Hitman battles in Y3 with the very simplified combat  :lol
Although the O/triangle counters are really hard to pull off in this compared to other action games. I feel like the punches from enemies come out so fast I just don't have the physical reflexes to counter in time usually.

I think I'll be happy with all the combat from Y4 onwards. I have a low bar.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: kingv on September 02, 2018, 07:00:55 PM
Nice to hear about them adding a little bit more to 6.

I feel like the foundation of 6 was pretty good, but it was just lacking compared to 0. This must be a pretty big remaster the more in think about it, since the Dragon engine works a lot differently than the old engine, I'm sure a lot of encountering to be completely reworked.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: TVC15 on September 02, 2018, 07:44:17 PM
Liking Kiwami 2 a lot. I was a lil worried that I was possibly getting burnt out on the series after I disliked 6.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: bork on September 04, 2018, 04:26:32 PM
https://twitter.com/Wario64/status/1037032516153094144
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: paprikastaude on September 04, 2018, 06:23:04 PM
damn, don't waste any time doing these optional bosses in the Majima chapter of Kiwami 2. Boring and then there's no useful reward.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Bebpo on September 05, 2018, 09:59:05 PM
Can we talk about how hilariously short the main story chapters are in these games sometimes? So I got to ch.7 in Yakuza 3 and it's like "GO SEE MAJIMA", so I spent 90 mins doing all the new Ch.7 sidequests that appeared, the new revelation moves, the new hitman missions. Then I get amped to do the main story and go see Majima and it's like a short cutscene -> 1 fight -> short cutscene -> Ch.8! The entire chapter main story was probably 10 mins long.

I feel like I can kinda judge how long a chapter will be buy the amount of sidequests in it since that's the bulk of the time. Like ch.8 has no sidequests so it'll be quick, ch.9 has only a few so it'll be quick, then ch.10/11 is endgame a million sidequests so that'll take hours and then ch.12 is just the finale. I have 3 free nights of gaming left before I go on vacation, including tonight. Gonna try to do ch.8-12 and finish Y3 before I leave because I'm enjoying it a lot and once I get back Cold Steel 4 is gonna be out in Japan and I'm not gonna want to finish Y3.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Bebpo on September 06, 2018, 03:57:59 AM
Ok, got back to Okinawa in Y3. Government dude explained all the plot points in Tokyo before leaving. Story is kinda dumb but solid and fun in this one. Feels like an 80’s political thriller.

Have almost all the moves and combat is definitely more fun, some of the counters like gun counters -> pick up dropped gun and shoot everyone, or sword catching counters are fun.

Messed around with the fight club. Nice presentation. And the casino games play pretty decent.
The hitman side story that runs along throughout the 2nd half of the plot giving lots of boss fights and a story that is moving towards something is great.

One thing I really don’t like in Y3 is the weapon customization system. It’s needlessly convoluted and if you want to make super weapons you have to run through lots of hoops for the parts. It’s all totally unnecessary too. Kinda hope they ditch that at some point.

Dunno if I’ll have time to finish it. I didn’t explore Okinawa much in the early chapters so I have like 20 sidequests from the beginning to do + all the new chapter 10 sidequests, so I’ll be spending a lot of time in Okinawa now. But that’s good, now that I’m more into the game I think I’ll dig getting to know the area more.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Bebpo on September 10, 2018, 04:21:17 AM
Yakuza 3/RGG3 - Ok, finished just about everything 100% and got to the final boss stage trigger in the last chapter.

Only missing a few quests that require clearing mini-games with high scores and the Cabaret Girl No.1 quest which requires 30 mini-game runs because fuck those grinds (although I did the Golf one where you need to finish with a +0 to trigger the quest). Also missing the Lau fight on the IF7 sim because it's the most bullshit fight in existence (this engine already sucks tracking more than one person for doing counters) and a few fighting tournaments left. Otherwise did 100+ sidequests all the Hitman arc fights and got all the moves woohoo. Around 41 hours now.

So, overall, though the plot is a bit fan-fiction-y with how it all connects to Y1 & Y2, Y3 is a real good game and reminds me why I like this franchise. Lots of great sidequests (even had a phoenix wright quest at the end where you have to solve the mystery by putting together evidence pieces), enjoyable story and characters, some good boss fights (overall the combat is the most satisfying on bosses as long as they're not bullshit), nice graphics, Okinawa is cool and different. Tons and tons of content. Also very pleased with how the game looks all cleaned up in this remaster. Looks like an early era PS4 game a lot of the time. I also like when they put $$ effort into some of the bigger sidequests with full cutscenes and voice. Hoping to see more of that in future games.

My main criticism is that the combat outside of boss fights 1 on 1 is zzz and the encounter rate on the streets is pretty high and mindless. Also the orphanage quests never fit in the main narrative. Like before the final 2 chapters it goes back to running around doing kid quests and it just feels tedious again like the first 6-8 hours. I think all the orphanage stuff should've just been sidequests because that's what they all feel like, sidequests to develop the kids more. Okinawa is kinda small and definitely doesn't get the attention Tokyo does and some fight bits are fucking bullshit with bosses towards the end that basically will counter any attack you throw out so the fights turn into just trying to lure them to attack and counter over and over which is a bit tedious.

One strange criticism I have of Y3 is that they are REALLY STRINGY on XP. Here I am having done 102 sidequests, 20+ hitman missions, all these IF7 fights outside Lau, Fighting Tournaments, tons of random battles, etc.... and my 4 power levels are at 8/9/8/9 out of 10 levels each. In the final stage I'll probably get enough xp to end the game at 9/9/9/9 but considering going from 9->10 requires 175 levels, that's 700 levels still needed to max out and that makes zero sense because even if I did the few remaining sidequests and fighting tournaments and beat Lau for a whopping 2000 xp (aka 2 levels), there's no way I would max out my character even with a 100% playthrough, which strikes me as insane? Feels like you need to play the game new game+ to max out otherwise you end up missing the final moves which sucks. I know in the later games if you're doing all the sidestuff you tend to max out well in advance of the final chapter, so this was really weird. On the other hand I have an absolutely insane amount of money here at the end of the game. Mostly because the Hitman missions would pay like 20,000, 25,000 yen each towards the end...but only give like 10 levels of xp -.- Anyhow not being able to max out my character annoys me, just saying.

Still, enjoyed the game very much and despite the slow start and maybe a bit too many sidequests at 110-ish (they removed some in the remaster), there's a lot of great stuff with great characters in there. Game gets me excited for playing Yakuza 4/RGG4 later this year when the PS4 remaster comes out in Japan.

Will finish it tomorrow, looking forward to

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Beating Mine down :rock
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOpgoeoYAho

This fight is fucking bullshit, just sayin'
Without the timer maybe it'd be more doable, but yeah I tried a bunch of times and bailed. Only fight I'm leaving undone.


Oh and while I played every mini-game in this and beat them at least once each. I still NEVER CAUGHT A SINGLE FISH. I'm very glad there was not a quest that required you to catch a fish because this is the hardest/stupidest fishing mini-game I've ever played in a Japanese videogame.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: paprikastaude on September 10, 2018, 06:57:59 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hhSFYt1fvmI
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: paprikastaude on September 10, 2018, 07:52:15 AM
https://twitter.com/JusticeKazzy_/status/1039115652911583234


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nEIlMFq40dQ
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: bork on September 10, 2018, 07:56:13 AM
 :lol Of course it has to take place in Kamurocho.

A playable demo is supposed to be up today.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: paprikastaude on September 10, 2018, 07:58:41 AM
:lol Of course it has to take place in Kamurocho.

 :beli :shaq2 :fbm
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: kingv on September 10, 2018, 10:00:28 AM
Looks pretty fun.

I’m sure it takes place in Kamurucho because it’s cheaper not to make a new map (this is a Sega game, right?)
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: paprikastaude on September 10, 2018, 10:29:25 AM
If this "new IP" really had to be Yakuza 6.5, I at least would have wanted to either get 1) no combat at all, or 2) a different locale, even if it's another locale from Yakuza.

Looks pretty fun.

I’m sure it takes place in Kamurucho because it’s cheaper not to make a new map (this is a Sega game, right?)

Most Yakuza games still had at least one new smaller locale and there were also were a couple of completely original Samurai maps inbetween. So this might actually be a stilistic choice, which I think is even lamer.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: kingv on September 10, 2018, 10:46:04 AM
The combat looks pretty improved from the trailers. I think he could beat down Majima or Kiryu.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Mr. Gundam on September 10, 2018, 11:28:08 AM
If this "new IP" really had to be Yakuza 6.5, I at least would have wanted to either get 1) no combat at all, or 2) a different locale, even if it's another locale from Yakuza.

Looks pretty fun.

I’m sure it takes place in Kamurucho because it’s cheaper not to make a new map (this is a Sega game, right?)

Most Yakuza games still had at least one new smaller locale and there were also were a couple of completely original Samurai maps inbetween. So this might actually be a stilistic choice, which I think is even lamer.

And it looks like the Tojo clan is still in the game, too.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Bebpo on September 11, 2018, 02:38:16 AM
Finished Y3, outside some tropey stuff the end was good. Like the plot of Y3 definitely wasn't as good as Y1/Y2, but if you aren't comparing it, it's pretty solid and the final boss was pretty ok even if he's no Ryuji. The EVIL WHITE MAN in the end probably has the best english VA I've heard in a Japanese videogame lol.

spoiler (click to show/hide)
I liked the part where Daigo comes out of a coma, dives off his hospital bed, rolls around on the ground grabbing a gun and shoots all the evil CIA guys. Was ridiculous but badass.

Mine fight was kinda ridiculously easy though, but probably because I've been coming from the endgame optional fights like the Hitman ones that are tough.
[close]

The post-game stuff with all the battle scenario challenges like with cool weapons, or 1 on 1, or tag team, etc.. is pretty neat and premium adventure mode afterwards is nice although I'm good at this point. I kinda wish they don't hold off on so many moves until the endgame because I never even got a chance to use a couple. The instant gun steal heat action was super helpful. Run up to a guy and do it, grab his gun and then shoot shoot shoot everyone -> repeat. Guns are pretty fun to use in this one, I don't remember that being a thing so much in Y1/Y2. Too bad that zombie shooter Of the End one sucked. Might try it someday for kicks.

Welp, only took me 9 years, but finally beat Y3. Good game, look forward to Y4.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: bork on September 11, 2018, 07:27:55 AM
Damn, Sega moves fast- Judge Eyes releases on 12/13 and has already been announced for localization, to be released early next year.  The working title is "Project Judge."

They really crank these games out.  It feels like they've dethroned Omega Force's musou releases at this point, but that's probably more due to the larger frequency of localized releases over the past year, lol.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Himu on September 11, 2018, 10:15:00 AM
https://twitter.com/JusticeKazzy_/status/1039115652911583234


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nEIlMFq40dQ

Eh
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Bebpo on September 11, 2018, 12:32:46 PM
Damn, Sega moves fast- Judge Eyes releases on 12/13 and has already been announced for localization, to be released early next year.  The working title is "Project Judge."

They really crank these games out.  It feels like they've dethroned Omega Force's musou releases at this point, but that's probably more due to the larger frequency of localized releases over the past year, lol.

I am never catching up  :'(
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Mr. Gundam on September 11, 2018, 12:53:31 PM
Damn, Sega moves fast- Judge Eyes releases on 12/13 and has already been announced for localization, to be released early next year.  The working title is "Project Judge."

They really crank these games out.  It feels like they've dethroned Omega Force's musou releases at this point, but that's probably more due to the larger frequency of localized releases over the past year, lol.

Sounds like the game has been in development for three years so that's more than likely part of it.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: bork on September 12, 2018, 08:57:19 AM
Damn, Sega moves fast- Judge Eyes releases on 12/13 and has already been announced for localization, to be released early next year.  The working title is "Project Judge."

They really crank these games out.  It feels like they've dethroned Omega Force's musou releases at this point, but that's probably more due to the larger frequency of localized releases over the past year, lol.

I am never catching up  :'(

Hey, I have yet to play through even one of these games, so it's much worse for me.   :lol  I just want to get through Yakuza 0 at least...but I'm more interested in Fist Of The North Star.  Enjoyed the import but shelved it as soon as the localization announcement came up.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Sho Nuff on September 17, 2018, 09:07:11 PM
I'm in Japan for the month and last night I took a long, hard look at how much it would cost for a day trip to Onomichi
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: kingv on September 17, 2018, 09:47:35 PM
Worth it for a pic with Onomichi-kun
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: TVC15 on October 02, 2018, 11:12:45 AM
Any of my Yakky anal pigs grabbing that Fist of the North Star game that came out today? I’d like to know how it compares to Yakuza, and if it’s worth buying.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: kingv on October 02, 2018, 11:47:22 AM
I have it supposed to be delivered today...

I played a bit of the Japanese version at a friends and it felt somewhat lower budget to me but that was really only from like 30 minutes of play so maybe it won’t feel that way when you  get an English dub.

It’s probably worth it if you are a fan of Hokuto no Ken.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: bork on October 02, 2018, 01:16:51 PM
From what I played of the Japanese version (stopped after the 'Murican announcement), it's very similar to Yakuza in structure, but in addition to walking around the city and fighting, there's segments outside the city where you get in a vehicle and drive around (and fight more!).  You can also participate in races.

The American version has more gore added too. 
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: paprikastaude on October 02, 2018, 01:32:27 PM
I'd definitely get it over Judge Eyes, but it still seems way too similar to go straight into currently. Hostess clubbing and UFO catchers again even for this, really?
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: kingv on October 04, 2018, 08:57:52 AM
I put about 2 hours into fist last night and it’s good for fans of the property, definitely the best FOTNS game ever made by a huge margin.

But I’m not 100% sure it’s as good as msinline yakuza. The fighting system to me is kind of weird, at least before I’ve unlocked much.

Like the equivalent of Heat actions are the pressure point strikes, and you can open up enemies to them by kicking the shit out of them. The problem is they are all very involved, long animations, and you will see them over and over again, and they destroy that enemy but not really any of the other enemies.

It feels like it drags out the fights more than necessary.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: paprikastaude on October 04, 2018, 12:59:00 PM
The train never stops

(https://media.playstation.com/is/image/SCEA/psplus-homepage-marquee-portal-01-us-02oct18?$ContentTile_BannerImage$)

https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2018-10-04-november-playstation-plus-games-include-bulletstorm-yakuza-kiwami
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: kingv on October 04, 2018, 01:37:00 PM
If true. That’s a damn sight better than October. Kiwami is a great game.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: kingv on October 05, 2018, 02:07:05 PM
Played a few more hours of Fist of the North Star, and it’s pretty dope if you are a fan of the anime or manga.

It looks like it’s going to twist the story from the manga around a bit to include a lot of the major elements, and kind of reorient it around a single city.

Like you fight devil rebirth, and shin, and go to Cassandra to rescue Toki and are trying to find Yuria, but it’s not all exactly in the way you have seen it before.


Still think the combat is sort of weird. The enemies except for bosses and heavies are all very weak. In general every fight has a ton of dudes, but they explode after like 3 punches.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: kingv on October 09, 2018, 11:00:11 AM
More Fist of the North Star thoughts.

This game is pretty funny if you are a fan of the series, but I think some of it will fall flat otherwise.

There is some funny dialogue in side stories riffing on stuff from the series like (minor spoilers about size stories)
spoiler (click to show/hide)
asking Ken if there’s a channeling point to give a chick bigger boobs of offering to teach a hostess hokuto shinken to make her less nervous with customers
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In Japan FOTNS is popular enough to spawn a chibi version that came out in like 2013 where the apocalypse never happens and all three brothers work in a convenience store and one of the running jokes is that Toki falls deathly ill every episode... but I don’t think most Americans have the familiarity with the property to get those types of jokes.

Overall, I like the game but you can tell it was rushed.

- The sub-stories seem to be resolved very quickly compared to a Yakuza and are lower quality in general (so far).
- the wasteland is pointless. It’s basically just a big empty map whose only purpose is to pick up crafting materials and to pad out the game by making you drive to places. I get the feeling it was supposed to have more to
It, but it just didn’t happen.
- you visit major landmarks from the series but in the most anti climactic way possible. Like you go to Cassandra but can’t actually go inside.
- you do get to relive some major points from the series which is cool, but some of the details are changed around to fit the changed plot
- the music is really cheesy in a good way, especially when you drive around in the wasteland and in some of the mini-games. There is a mini game that is sort of the equivalent of the dance game from Yakuza but it has really wild music. Like there is a hip hop version of symphony no. 9 with a really wack verse. It’s really funny in the context of the game.
- the mini-games are basically remixed Yakuza mini-games. They are both more unique than I expected but also more disappointing. I don’t think any of them are a straight 100% reskin of a Yakuza mini-game but the reworkings don’t always feel like improvements. The hostess game seems abbreviated and actually a good bit harder than what was in Yakuza 0. I never even came close to losing a round in yak 0 but have here... but it’s also simplified. There’s no customization on the hostesses and only 4 tables instead of six. The big twist is that there are skills the hostesses and ken have that can be deployed in a similar fashion to the party mode in Yak 0. The interviews exist sort of, but there’s way less of them.
- the main story is the highlight but rumors are that it’s short, like 8-12 hours if you just go straight through. I’m kind of ok with this though.
- the combat is a pleasant surprise. I think it’s harder than Yakuza and has more depth to it.its not DMC by any means but owning noobs with perfect channeling is pretty fun. Also there’s a lot more big fights which makes sense because many of the enemies Ken can kill in three punches.
- Toki plays the role of Komechi but his fights are actually hard. He breaks out in fits of coughing after attack though, lol. Fucking Toki.

I would like to see a fleshed out sequel where you can play both Kenshiro and Rei or something like that.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: paprikastaude on October 15, 2018, 06:10:59 PM
https://twitter.com/Toadsanime/status/1051798272384352256

I don't know what this means, 0 must have surely sold more than 200k  ???
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: demi on October 15, 2018, 07:55:59 PM
I picked up Yak 6 off gamefly (had coupons)

Just need Kiwami 2 and I'm caught up

... and play them eventually

... starting from the first game
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: kingv on December 06, 2018, 11:21:42 PM
Mahjong is the one thing I wish they would localize into something else.

I have no idea how to play that shit either.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: chronovore on December 07, 2018, 10:19:46 AM
Mahjong is the one thing I wish they would localize into something else.

I have no idea how to play that shit either.

Surely there are simple guides around?

I learned poker so I could complete some bullshit Achievements in GUN, and now I really like playing poker. Maybe give it a shot?
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: paprikastaude on December 07, 2018, 12:04:19 PM
What sucks is that for every other game you get way more cheat items than Mahjong.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Bebpo on January 04, 2019, 06:22:03 PM
Yakuza 0's $12 as early unlock for Humble Bundle Sub for Feb. Also get The Division and some other games free. I have the import on PS4, but double dipped and will play the PC version when I get to it for $12.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Sho Nuff on January 04, 2019, 07:03:59 PM
I'm currently lying on my couch listening to my dad, who is 70, play Yakuza 0 and yell at the screen (he does this for every game he plays, it's best when he's playing one with a silent protagonist because he fills in all the dialogue himself).

"Oh no, that man has a sword!"
"Why can't I grab anything? Oh there we go."
"I took you DOWN, motherfucker!"
"Oh no, sold to the Korean mafia!?"
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Sho Nuff on January 04, 2019, 07:54:16 PM
Dad is ALL IN on cabaret management.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: benjipwns on January 04, 2019, 08:06:37 PM
should record a commentary track for everything he plays
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Valkyrie on January 06, 2019, 02:45:35 AM
I’m about start/stream a blind run of Yakuza 0, probably this week. Wish me luck!
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Mr. Nobody on January 06, 2019, 11:35:30 AM
Got FotNS for $20 :hyper
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Bebpo on January 09, 2019, 11:05:59 AM
Tried out FoTNS Yakuza last night. Ended up playing like 3 hours. Seems pretty good! The RGG Studio really excels at engaging storytelling in these games. They always feel like TV shows where you wanna see the next ep for the main story. Combat seems solid brawler but watching the head explode animation for every grunt really bogs down the combat to the point where I just avoid doing insta-kill moves for grunts, but then the game wants you to do them to build your meter and score so blah. City also seems a lot weaker than a Yakuza city and camera in it is super jank. But still off the bat it seems like one of the better anime/manga games to date thanks to a good studio doing it.

Would love to see them do a Berserk game.

Also the saddest thing about FoTNS is I bought the Kiryu skin because since I don't know much about FoTNS (I've read maybe 20-30 chapters of the manga), with Kiryu's VA you can basically treat the game as Kiryu's adventure in the post-apocalypse. But maaaaan, that skin is so terrible. It doesn't fit the model at all and you get this weird long legged Kiryu that walks like a not-human-being. You'd think the studio that does nothing but make Kiryu Kazuma videogames every year would make an effort to make Kiryu look right in their game, but whoops, guess not!

(https://i.imgur.com/2xLKCVOh.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/9hSiCryh.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/V7pdW3bh.jpg)
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: kingv on January 09, 2019, 12:27:17 PM
Ah man. That Kiryu  skin is hilarious.

I played as the savior of the century’s end, obviously, but didn’t really consider that Kiryu would end up with Weirdo Fist of the North Star proportions.

Fotns was definitely the best Fist game ever made but probably the worst Yakuza. What’s there is good, but just seems like it was really rushed...
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Bebpo on January 09, 2019, 01:56:25 PM
Fotns was definitely the best Fist game ever made but probably the worst Yakuza. What’s there is good, but just seems like it was really rushed...

Yeah, I can definitely see that. Anime games are usually terrible, so even a weak Yakuza game is a pretty good manga/anime game!
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: chronovore on January 09, 2019, 05:32:21 PM
It's their animation budget. They altered their rig for Hokuto-no-Ken and would have to re-do all the animations for Kiryuu to avoid that effect you're seeing.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Bebpo on January 20, 2019, 02:42:23 PM
I picked up the PS4 port of Yakuza 4 to play down the line in a few months after I've cleared my backlog up some. Gave it a whirl just to see how it is and did the intro with Akiyama and uhhhhhh

-The music is crazy awesome jazz funk straight out of Cowboy Bebop
-While you're playing as Akiyama who fights with Capoeira style
-And is voiced by Koichi Yamadera who plays Spike in Cowboy Bebop

???

Seems way too on point to just be a coincidence. I am totally fine with 1/4th of Y4 being a Cowboy Bebop nod Yakuza game. Just kinda out of left field.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: bork on January 21, 2019, 08:03:41 PM
https://store.steampowered.com/app/834530/Yakuza_Kiwami/

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The PC version of Yakuza: Kiwami will launch via Steam on February 19.

[N]ow optimized for PC with 4K resolutions, uncapped framerates, customisable controls and ultra-widescreen support.

https://gematsu.com/2019/01/yakuza-kiwami-for-pc-launches-february-19#bisTMuOV67J2U6TV.99

:phil
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Great Rumbler on January 21, 2019, 08:07:11 PM
Yakuza 0 [Steam version] is part of February's Humble Monthly, and you can get that and The Division [uPlay version] if you buy the upcoming bundle right now for $12:

https://www.humblebundle.com/monthly
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Sho Nuff on January 21, 2019, 08:29:27 PM
I'm playing Kiwami 2 and IT GOOD. Osaka looks awesome af.

The side stories seem to be really really really short tho.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Mr. Gundam on January 22, 2019, 12:20:32 PM
I picked up the PS4 port of Yakuza 4 to play down the line in a few months after I've cleared my backlog up some. Gave it a whirl just to see how it is and did the intro with Akiyama and uhhhhhh

-The music is crazy awesome jazz funk straight out of Cowboy Bebop
-While you're playing as Akiyama who fights with Capoeira style
-And is voiced by Koichi Yamadera who plays Spike in Cowboy Bebop

???

Seems way too on point to just be a coincidence. I am totally fine with 1/4th of Y4 being a Cowboy Bebop nod Yakuza game. Just kinda out of left field.

Akiyama is an awesome character.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Joe Molotov on February 03, 2019, 12:41:21 PM
Yakuza 6 is $20 and Kiwami 2 is $30 at Best Buy this week.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: TVC15 on June 20, 2019, 11:01:59 AM
Anyone know if Judgment is worth my time?
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: bork on June 20, 2019, 11:45:04 AM
Anyone know if Judgment is worth my time?

Supposed to be pretty fun- I just got a copy.  Someone on REEEEE was having a moral dilemma crisis over getting an early copy for $40 off an eBay seller.  I decided to try buying from the same seller and the game came via free FedEx overnight delivery.  Insane.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48098383421_edbc4e0145.jpg)
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: kingv on June 20, 2019, 03:04:59 PM
Is it kilamscloset or something like that? I might order. Seems too good to be true... but don’t care if they fell off a truck or whatever.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: bork on June 20, 2019, 04:08:18 PM
Is it kilamscloset or something like that? I might order. Seems too good to be true... but don’t care if they fell off a truck or whatever.

Yeah.  100% legit, surprisingly, lol.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: bork on June 20, 2019, 11:09:37 PM
Have much stuff to play right now, so just tried Judgment out and did the prologue chapter.  I really haven't played too much of Yakuza (I know, I know!) so apologies if some of this stuff appears in those games, but the gist of this game seems to be-

-"Open-world" type walking around, going into stores/arcades, etc.  Just like Yakuza.
-Battles that also play like Yakuza.  You have two fighting styles to choose from.
-Investigation segments where the camera goes into first-person and you need to focus on certain parts of the environment to find stuff.
-Following suspicious people of interest.  You can run after them, but anything that alerts them will fill up a bar, that once full, is the end of the mission.  You can stop and hide or appear to be doing other stuff on certain marked parts of the area.
-Chase segments where you hit buttons at the right times to dodge or go over/around stuff.

It's interesting to see a different take on the same game world as Yakuza.  Despite you being a P.I., it still feels a little too Yakuza-ish-- your partner is Ex-Tojo clan, lol.  Also for a guy who was supposed to be a hotshot popular lawyer, he sure seems fucking dumb- the story (This is right in the very beginning of the game) is that
spoiler (click to show/hide)
he got someone acquitted, which never happens, and then the guy turns around and murders his girlfriend and sets his apartment on fire.  Uh...hope this leads to something like that guy having been framed.   :P
[close]
  Wouldn't make much sense any other way I guess.

There's also three 2P-only minigames you can play from the main menu: Puyo Puyo (modern version), Fighting Vipers (Arcade), and VF5 Final Showdown (Arcade).  Am assuming you can play the CPU in-game.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: kingv on June 21, 2019, 08:45:18 AM
I went ahead and ordered it.

I’ve got a few other games to finish up first (including kiwami 2, which I’m like halfway through) but $40 is a great price.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Freyj on June 21, 2019, 02:13:07 PM
Guessing I’ll pick this up after Bloodstained despite playing 0, Kiwami and Kiwami 2 in the last 3 months.

Hopefully Sega prioritizes the 3-5 remasters in the West next so I can get around to playing 6 before it needs a remaster.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: bork on June 21, 2019, 02:23:21 PM
Hopefully Sega prioritizes the 3-5 remasters in the West next so I can get around to playing 6 before it needs a remaster.

 :lol
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: bork on June 21, 2019, 04:10:43 PM
https://twitter.com/RGGStudio/status/1142145158701572096
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Freyj on June 23, 2019, 03:22:02 PM
Haven’t played 6 but this feels like a massive step forward from Kiwami 2 in pretty much every aspect.

Story maybe isn’t fair as K2 is working with old source material but this still feels like an improvement over the usual crime melodrama.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: kingv on June 23, 2019, 08:06:43 PM
How is the combat?

I feel like the biggest thing not quite right in the dragon engine games so far. It just feels sort of sloppy with les options.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Freyj on June 24, 2019, 02:45:44 AM
Mandatory “it’s not 0” but I’m enjoying it more than K2. There’s two styles with one being more AoE / crowd control and one better at single target but there’s an insane amount of Heat movies and the wall running adds some nice options.

Also there’s basically zero load in to the combat. You can pretty much just run up on a group of thugs and throw a punch. K2 had this weird “combat loading” thing until the enemy title went away that this does not.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: kingv on June 24, 2019, 10:29:00 AM
The combat loading thing is annoying. Strangely it didn’t really bother me I’m 6, but I’m very aware of it in K2.

Sounds like they are making some strides in the combat piece of the dragon engine. In K2 (and 6 even more so) I feel like the combat is very sloppy feeling and geared towards mostly being a button mashing brawler. It’s fine for what it is, but doesn’t have a ton of depth. Mostly it’s just grab a weapon and beat everybody with it.

Then when they try to have those epic one on one conflicts, the combat isn’t well-suited to it at all. in Y0 you are unlocking cool combat options all the way through until almost the very end of the game, While in K2, it’s like “here are 15 highly specific heat actions that require you to be right next to a specific NPC and then the other combat unlocks are sort of boring.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Freyj on June 24, 2019, 11:14:16 AM
K2 basically forced you into keeping decent weapons on Kiryu which I completely ignored in 0 and K1.

But yeah Judgment is definitely the game where RGGS has settled into the Dragon Engine and I’m enjoying it immensely. Shin Yakuza should be a blast at this rate.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: thetylerrob on June 24, 2019, 12:21:46 PM
Shin Yakuza better not have this wack ass combat system. I still haven't gotten around to playing K2 because 6 was such a bummer. I'll probably try Judgement though.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: bork on June 25, 2019, 07:15:37 AM
https://www.siliconera.com/2019/06/24/yakuza-producer-says-that-yakuza-kenzan-could-get-a-kiwami-version/

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Will you continue to release new Kiwami remakes?

Daisuke Sato, producer: “Personally, Yakuza: Kenzan is quite suitable to get a ‘Kiwami’ makeover. Kenzan was the first Yakuza game on the PlayStation 3, and only released in Japan. A lot of Western players mentioned that they want to play this game in English, and Asian players also want the game to release in Chinese. And because Kenzan was an early PS3 game, if it were to receive a simple HD remaster it would feel like it’s missing something, so in my opinion a ‘Kiwami’ version would be better.”

 

You’ve mentioned that re-negotiating contracts is quite troublesome. Would you consider making games like Kenzan that don’t really require contracts?

Sato: “Because Yakuza: Kenzan! is an early game, the overall appearances of the characters are quite old, and so if we were to create a ‘Kiwami’ version, we could possibly find new actors to contract and swap the models out.”
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: bork on June 25, 2019, 07:57:57 AM
https://twitter.com/RGGStudio/status/1143187022783213568
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: kingv on June 25, 2019, 01:04:43 PM
My $40 copy of Judgement from eBay came last night, and it works!

No idea how that works out, but it’s a good deal.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: bork on June 27, 2019, 03:34:42 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hPw6yXvIVXQ

My $40 copy of Judgement from eBay came last night, and it works!

No idea how that works out, but it’s a good deal.

(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/41t4FSjqR9L._UY445_.jpg)
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: toku on June 28, 2019, 07:57:13 PM
oops beaten  great video tho  :lol
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: bork on July 05, 2019, 12:23:51 AM
https://twitter.com/MaxScoville/status/1146657582339112964
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Mr. Gundam on July 25, 2019, 10:20:31 PM
Judgment is already $39.99 at Amazon. Time to pick it up.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: paprikastaude on August 02, 2019, 06:34:08 PM
How much of Y6 is baby shit? I might want to try the new town, but I really don't care for the latter in the story (nor Haruka idol stuff - skipped 5 entirely).
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: kingv on August 02, 2019, 06:56:05 PM
I think you carry the baby for maybe an hour total.

For the most part you hand the baby off to some mama San and then check in on them every once in a while.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: demi on August 20, 2019, 01:11:57 PM
Yakuza 3, 4, 5 coming to PS4

Yakuza 3 out right now

Physical release when Yakuza 5 is released (Feb 2020)

https://twitter.com/Nitomatta/status/1163853027221970945

(https://yakuza.sega.com/remastered/yakuza3/img/purchase/YakuzaRemastered_glam.jpg)
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: bork on August 20, 2019, 01:13:13 PM
Nice!  Will wait for the physical release.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Rahxephon91 on August 20, 2019, 01:21:27 PM
That Yakuza 5 PS3 case inclusion is super weird.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: bork on August 20, 2019, 01:34:27 PM
That Yakuza 5 PS3 case inclusion is super weird.

I guess it's for people who want to have the "complete set" on their shelf or something. 
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: nachobro on August 20, 2019, 02:22:02 PM
ya yakuza 5 was digital only on ps3 in the us so we never got a case
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: kingv on August 20, 2019, 02:57:41 PM
I’ll probably get this physical actually. I’m still working through Kiwanis 2
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Himu on August 20, 2019, 04:10:16 PM

So I'm curious if they'll make some actual giant leap this time or not. It's most definitely going to be Kamurocho again but what's different?



:lol

If you're Yak'd out now... and you're asking questions like this... :lol
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Himu on August 20, 2019, 04:15:12 PM
I did. I'm just saying to have low expectations.

The fact they're using Kamurocho again, despite saying it's a new clean slate is the biggest hint.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Himu on August 20, 2019, 04:21:34 PM
Fair enough, sorry for being combative.

I do have low expectations for the most part, but I am curious mostly cause they're having an event for it soon and kinda kept this game in the dark for a while (which they don't usually do) outside of like one persona like turn based minigame?

It's okay. And if the new main character doesn't work out expect them to bring back Kiryu.

They played it safe with that series for a full decade. I'm very cynical about whatever direction they take to make things different. It's basically Japanese Assassin's Creed, so that's why I say to keep your expectations low.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: paprikastaude on August 20, 2019, 05:38:53 PM
speaking of different

https://twitter.com/Nibellion/status/1163855153205788673

 :ltg
someone show them the fucking sales of Sekiro and Nioh
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Freyj on August 20, 2019, 05:40:33 PM
Well shit I guess I’m playing Yakuza 3 now. I wanna get through 6 in the next year or so so I don’t have to worry about anymore ports and remasters.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Sho Nuff on August 20, 2019, 06:58:42 PM
GIMME DAT ISSHIN!
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: kingv on August 20, 2019, 07:54:56 PM
Fair enough, sorry for being combative.

I do have low expectations for the most part, but I am curious mostly cause they're having an event for it soon and kinda kept this game in the dark for a while (which they don't usually do) outside of like one persona like turn based minigame?

It's okay. And if the new main character doesn't work out expect them to bring back Kiryu.

They played it safe with that series for a full decade. I'm very cynical about whatever direction they take to make things different. It's basically Japanese Assassin's Creed, so that's why I say to keep your expectations low.

I’m pretty much ok with them just making iterative changes to it.

There’s not really anything else like it, and I like all the weirdness. It’s like the equivalent of comfort food.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Mr. Nobody on August 21, 2019, 02:29:12 AM
Buying the fuck out of that physical collection in Feb
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Mr. Gundam on August 22, 2019, 04:52:09 PM
I finally got around to playing Isshin last year, I think I liked Kenzan better but still an awesome game.

On chapter 2 of Judgment and it's fun but really doesn't feel much different from the mainline games.

Kamurocho of the Dead is clever, by the way.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hPw6yXvIVXQ


What was up with Nagoshi's teeth? Mouthguard? Veneers? Cause damn it just looked too good, almost inhuman.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: bork on August 23, 2019, 08:47:17 AM
Can't wait for Black Friday 2020 when the whole set is $20 :jeb

This is supposedly a "limited print run," so it may end up selling out and getting scalper resale mark-ups.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Mr. Nobody on August 23, 2019, 09:35:47 AM
Can't wait for Black Friday 2020 when the whole set is $20 :jeb

This is supposedly a "limited print run," so it may end up selling out and getting scalper resale mark-ups.

And besides, RGG Studios deserves your full $60 you cheap fuck  :rage

But seriously, a "day one edition" for a limited print run? That implies there might be a subsequent "standard" run but who knows with gamer marketing these days.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: demi on August 23, 2019, 10:15:56 AM
Amazon Link

https://amzn.to/2Zj8nyp
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: kingv on August 23, 2019, 12:53:19 PM
$60 for all three is a great deal imo.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Himu on August 29, 2019, 03:59:59 AM
:jeb

I'm glad you're right. First time I've been excited for Yakuza in literally a decade.

The best part of being cynical is being wrong. :jeb Much better than expecting something and nothing good happens.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: thisismyusername on August 29, 2019, 05:33:17 AM
Yeah Yakuza 7 is full JRPG now.

And that's a good thing. At least now the combat will be engaging than smash square for like two minutes. :doge

/v/ is shitting itself in rage and I'm just like "maybe the game will be more engaging now? :yeshrug "

(I'm not a fan of Kiwami, as I said in the completion thread)
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: nachobro on August 29, 2019, 07:38:01 AM
Shit looks wack as fuck
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: bork on August 29, 2019, 07:49:12 AM
Shit looks wack as fuck

Dunno about this, yeah.  The goofy looking main character and it being turned into a JRPG is...uh...:mindblown  It's not that I mind them trying something different after so many Yakuza games, but why change it from action-based battles to turn-based ones?  This is the kind of thing I would have done in say, Judgment instead of the mainline series.

(https://gematsu.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/Yakuza-7_2019_08-29-19_010.jpg)

Even the enemies have goofy-ass names, lol.  But maybe it will be a lot of fun so am interested in seeing how it turns out. 
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: demi on August 29, 2019, 08:06:04 AM
What the fuck Yakuza is finally good now. Hell yeah
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: porkbun on August 29, 2019, 08:10:58 AM
This is an interesting turn at least.  I'll hold off passing judgment until I see it in action.

I finally got Y0 because of the PSN summer sale.  It'll be a while before I do a full play through but I'll get in far enough to play the Sega arcade games.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Mr Gilhaney on August 29, 2019, 08:19:50 AM
finally they get rid of that shitty ass combat system? yakuza cummies into my boi pussy  :-* :-[
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: nachobro on August 29, 2019, 08:20:42 AM
https://twitter.com/mochi_wsj/status/1166942120847925248

well at least they'll walk it back if people hate it (duh) and won't just drop the series
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: kingv on August 29, 2019, 08:54:53 AM
Should have just hollared at your boys at Platinum to fix the combat.

I’ll still play it though... just not sure what to expect from it. I wonder if it means you will have a party?

Edit: duh, right there on the screen.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: tiesto on August 29, 2019, 09:02:36 AM
So used to the other way around- turn based going action, that this is a breath of fresh air.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: paprikastaude on August 29, 2019, 10:24:50 AM
:leon
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Himu on August 29, 2019, 12:16:44 PM
AAHAHAHAHAHA

NOW YOU KNOW WHAT ITS LIKE ACTION FANS

KISS MY ASS

AHAHAHAHA YOU REAP WHAT YOU SOW

THIS KARMIC JUSTICE FOR FF7 REMAKE.

NOW YOU KNOW HOW IT FEELS.

BAHAHAHAHA
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Himu on August 29, 2019, 12:18:39 PM
So many turn based games have gone action, it's about time to know what it's like. Kiss our ass :jeb

I love this! :dead

edit: and the best part? The very best part? Most of the people crying have been playing Yakuza games for all of a year. :dead I'm sorry bruh, but this situation has me fucking DEAD. :rofl
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: nachobro on August 29, 2019, 12:49:08 PM
but i didn't want ff7 to change either ???

lol at saying people that didn't play the games long enough (dumbest gatekeeping ever?) shouldn't care...cool i guess. what a weird couple of posts.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: kingv on August 29, 2019, 12:54:47 PM
I don’t mind turn based, but the biggest potentiAl problem is see is that there are lot of fights in Yakuza. Turn based fights will take longer, and the encounter rate could really drag the game’s pace down.

Edit; most of the good stuff in Yakuza is the weirdly earnest tone of the main story mixed with bizarro sub quests + the weird characters and story beats.

As long as they keep those items it will still probably be fine.

Edit 2:... this is them getting a switch port ready.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: nachobro on August 29, 2019, 12:57:45 PM
that's my main concern. if they redo the yakuza game to work like an open-ish world jrpg and not just plopping in turn based combat to yakuza that would be better but then why make it a mainline series game? the whole thing is just strange and not helped by the lack of details.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Himu on August 29, 2019, 12:59:35 PM
but i didn't want ff7 to change either ???

lol at saying people that didn't play the games long enough (dumbest gatekeeping ever?) shouldn't care...cool i guess. what a weird couple of posts.

It's just funny to me.

There's nothing wrong with being a fan of it for a year. But it doesn't change the hilarity of someone who has been a fan of Yakuza for a year, isn't used to Yak fatigue, re-using a location for literally a DECADE, the same battle system since the first one in 2006 (or 2005 in JP version), a never ending story for Kiryu, on top of making these games on pretty much a ANNUAL BASIS. They got into the series right when the devs were tired as shit making what they had been making.

And they're pissed that the devs are changing it to a turn based jrpg.

I'm sorry bro. I'm not gatekeeping, and I'm happy the franchise does well in the west now and everything, but that doesn't change the fact the situation is utterly fucking hilarious to me.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: nachobro on August 29, 2019, 01:02:32 PM
if nothing else gotta respect the balls of them changing it up in the opposite way of the entire industry but damn its annoying cause yakuza to me always was the best evolution of beat em up games (in a good way, aka not final fight streetwise) and there's not really a lot of games in that style with the good story and sidequests and such.

most games go the platinum/dmc character action style or arcadey 2d-style which is fine but not engaging in the same way to me.

however you are right that eventually the team was gonna get sick of this shit so they probably had to change up the game for their own sanity.

but also fuuuuck make judgement in that style and not yakuza :maf
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Himu on August 29, 2019, 01:05:18 PM
If anything else, by the time Yak 3-5 are out and people can play all of these games hopefully they'll understand why the developers decided to do this.

Yakuza fatigue is REAL.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: kingv on August 29, 2019, 01:09:19 PM
I get Yakuza fatigue for sure... the games are all really similar, but the battle system on dragon engine really isn’t that old. Imo, it really isn’t the same as the one on Y0 or Kiwami.

Arguably it is worse, but not the same.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: nachobro on August 29, 2019, 01:09:43 PM
5 and 6 i didn't play yet so i'll get to those soon enough and that will keep me busy for a while i bet. i just never got 5 cause no physical release and having other shit to play at the time, don't remember if that also had a localization kerfluffle like 3 did.

either way i guess i have two more game to go through so we'll see how i feel about more in the same style after that :doge

and of course all of this is even more delayed cause who knows when any of these things will hit PC :lol
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Himu on August 29, 2019, 01:11:47 PM
I just find it funny. You don't see nearly as much outcry for making FF7R an action game. You get plenty of "it's not FOR you!!" though. And now you flip it and 4chan and other site are losing their collective minds.

Admit it, Nacho.

That's funny.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Himu on August 29, 2019, 01:12:54 PM
Also yeah you got plenty of Yak games to play.

Did you play 4? One of the more refreshing ones.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: nachobro on August 29, 2019, 01:15:33 PM
yeah its the kind of thing that would be hilarious if i wasn't so annoyed by it. :lol at least with ff7r there's the 1500 releases of the old version to go back to.

but i guess with this it can be the kiryu era vs the kasuga era or w/e. my understanding is that there was never supposed to be 7 kiryu games anyway so they've probably been planning something like this for a while.

Also yeah you got plenty of Yak games to play.

Did you play 4? One of the more refreshing ones.
yep played and really liked 4, having the different missions for the characters was a nice change of pace, and 5 sounds like it took that to anther level so that should be fun. them sorta "backporting" that idea to 0 and fleshing out majima's past was really cool to see. the zombie one was a neat side story too.

i haven't played redone 2 either, just the original version. 2 is my favorite so once that hits pc it'll be nice to revisit it.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: paprikastaude on August 29, 2019, 01:18:13 PM
Hopefully Atlus helps them with a good battle system. And they need less encounters if it isn't a fast system. Since a flop will cancel the style altogether, they need to get it right on the first try this time.

Either way, similar to Resident Evil 7 going first person, I can immediately think of many ways they can enhance the series with fresh takes while also keeping the general essence. Can't wait.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: kingv on August 29, 2019, 01:19:30 PM
I am ultimately open-minded about the change.

One potential positive is that Yakuza is theoretically a game about being in a gang, but it’s game design is such that you are almost always a lone wolf... so you never really feel like you are the chairman, or ex-chairman, or whatever.

The idea of a Yakuza game where you actually control your family, and bring people out on missions with you, and maybe have some kind of Fire Emblem type of development system for their relationships, specialties, and load outs could be interesting if well done.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Rahxephon91 on August 29, 2019, 01:29:22 PM
Don’t care that FFVII Remake is action.

Don’t care that Yakuza 7 is turn based.

It feels good to be open to games doing whatever.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: demi on August 29, 2019, 01:37:25 PM
They do have traditional Yakuza, isn't it called Judgment?
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: nachobro on August 29, 2019, 01:38:41 PM
fuck the police :hmph
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Himu on August 29, 2019, 01:40:56 PM
I am ultimately open-minded about the change.

One potential positive is that Yakuza is theoretically a game about being in a gang, but it’s game design is such that you are almost always a lone wolf... so you never really feel like you are the chairman, or ex-chairman, or whatever.

The idea of a Yakuza game where you actually control your family, and bring people out on missions with you, and maybe have some kind of Fire Emblem type of development system for their relationships, specialties, and load outs could be interesting if well done.


In most Yakuza games, Kiryu isn't, at least officially, associated with the Tojo. So technically he's a former gangster.

This could be the Yakuza game that's actually about being a yakuza. Looking forward to it.

Don’t care that FFVII Remake is action.

Don’t care that Yakuza 7 is turn based.

It feels good to be open to games doing whatever.

Do you like everything?

Or just everything except Nintendo? :teehee ;)

fuck the police :hmph

lmao at Nacho going ACAB
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: nachobro on August 29, 2019, 01:53:11 PM
actually condemned and virtua cop are good cop games so now i'm torn :(

i'll eventually get to judgement when it's on pc but its the kind of thing where i can see yakuza gangsters beating the shit out of each other in the street but a cop/lawyer/detective bashing some dudes head in with a bike is a wtf kinda of thing. i'm sure it'll take me like 3 fights to get over myself though.

i did see that one of the fight enders in judgement is yagami pushing a dude into a car filled with yakuza who then kidnap the enemy for dirtying their ride :lol
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Himu on August 29, 2019, 01:56:23 PM
bro a cop jrpg would be dope

imagine a cop jrpg where you're in japan. they don't have guns so you use your cop kung fu instead :lol
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Rahxephon91 on August 29, 2019, 02:05:40 PM
Quote
Do you like everything?

Or just everything except Nintendo? :teehee ;)
No. I just am not cynical and don’t go off the deep end when game developers don’t make things the way 16 year old me would have wanted them.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Himu on August 29, 2019, 02:08:51 PM
Quote
Do you like everything?

Or just everything except Nintendo? :teehee ;)
No. I just am not cynical and don’t go off the deep end when game developers don’t make things the way 16 year old me would have wanted them.

It was a playful jab. :beli

You are so humorless.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Rahxephon91 on August 29, 2019, 02:14:13 PM
Ok.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: bork on August 29, 2019, 02:15:10 PM
AAHAHAHAHAHA

NOW YOU KNOW WHAT ITS LIKE ACTION FANS

KISS MY ASS

AHAHAHAHA YOU REAP WHAT YOU SOW

THIS KARMIC JUSTICE FOR FF7 REMAKE.

NOW YOU KNOW HOW IT FEELS.

BAHAHAHAHA

:nerds
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: paprikastaude on August 29, 2019, 02:55:15 PM
I am ultimately open-minded about the change.

One potential positive is that Yakuza is theoretically a game about being in a gang, but it’s game design is such that you are almost always a lone wolf... so you never really feel like you are the chairman, or ex-chairman, or whatever.

The idea of a Yakuza game where you actually control your family, and bring people out on missions with you, and maybe have some kind of Fire Emblem type of development system for their relationships, specialties, and load outs could be interesting if well done.

In 4 you would gang up with homeless guys to raid some building, but in the end you'd really only fight by yourself. I think you can do these scenarios much better now. Also there already was an increased emphasis on bonding with strangers. Yet for example in Kiwami 2, it felt way too convoluted to really trigger team attacks. Also, female NPCs can now be playable finally.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: thetylerrob on August 29, 2019, 03:01:50 PM
As a Yakuza fan since release in 2005 (#gatekeeping), I'm kinda okay with this because the dragon engine combat sucks way worse than the old games, but I can see it being really bad also.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: bork on August 29, 2019, 03:54:50 PM
bro a cop jrpg would be dope

imagine a cop jrpg where you're in japan. they don't have guns so you use your cop kung fu instead :lol

 :confused

spoiler (click to show/hide)
Cops do carry guns- they just don't have to use them very much compared to a lot of other countries.  :)
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Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Himu on August 29, 2019, 03:59:39 PM
bro a cop jrpg would be dope

imagine a cop jrpg where you're in japan. they don't have guns so you use your cop kung fu instead :lol

 :confused

spoiler (click to show/hide)
Cops do carry guns- they just don't have to use them very much compared to a lot of other countries.  :)
[close]

Ah. I was thinking of UK. :lol Which would be funnier. Hot Fuzz the game :rejoice
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: bork on August 29, 2019, 04:13:59 PM
https://twitter.com/mochi_wsj/status/1166942120847925248

well at least they'll walk it back if people hate it (duh) and won't just drop the series


More studios should say something like that. "We know this is a change from what you're used to, and we'll go back if you don't like it, but we hope you like the new style". I can respect that a lot more than changing things up and getting mad at audiences for not following along or it killing a series for failing.

Kind of reminds of how they went back to VF2-style, after VF3, with VF4. 
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Bebpo on August 29, 2019, 04:29:31 PM
 :rofl

At new Yakuza being a turn-based rpg.

I mean I'm fine with it since I like rpgs, but boooy is that gonna alienate the western audience that's been helping the series. I wouldn't be surprised if it hurts Japan sales too. But yeah they'll just go back after. I'm in the camp that punching someone in the face and throwing him in the river will be less satisfying as a menu command.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: tiesto on August 29, 2019, 04:39:38 PM
bro a cop jrpg would be dope

imagine a cop jrpg where you're in japan. they don't have guns so you use your cop kung fu instead :lol

There's Crime Crackers, a super early PS1 release from Media Vision of Wild Arms fame, it's a dungeon crawler/FPS/RPG hybrid and not a very good one apparently.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Rahxephon91 on August 29, 2019, 04:51:57 PM
Is the gameplay change really going to alienate western audiences?

Persona 5 has done pretty great and that first screw game me Persona vibes. But if anything has really pushed Persona here, it’s probably not 100% the gameplay. The sense of style, writing, characters, setting, and general vibe is what has probably made Persona popular then other jrpgs.

Now obviously despite some genre aping, Yakuza was never a jrpg. But I don’t know, it’s not like I see the gameplay of the series being praised. It works and is fun enough. There’s not a lot of brawlers like it out there. But usually it’s the story, setting, content, writing, visuals, and so on that have really pushed the series here. I didn’t see a lot of articles about 0’s gameplay. I saw articles about its story. I didn’t see articles about 6’s gameplay. More so the story, the world, and all the content crammed into the game. Yeah being an action game probably makes it an easier sell, but it’s not like Yakuza’s brand of action was super popular to begin with.

If they make a good jrpg and don’t falter with the story, world, and content I don’t see why it can’t be a success here. Polished jrpgs that don’t look like they have the budget of $5 and star nothing but little girls aren’t sales death warrant. Currently excellent Japanese games are respected and rewarded with decent sales.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Himu on August 29, 2019, 04:58:26 PM
Is the gameplay change really going to alienate western audiences?

Persona 5 has done pretty great and that first screw game me Persona vibes.


In the past did you not say that Persona is a bad example to use to make a case that turn based rpgs can sell while defending FFVII turned into an action rpg?


Now obviously despite some genre aping, Yakuza was never a jrpg.

Actually I'd argue it is.

It has random encounters, leveling up, buying in shops, a town, a hub. They just mask it behind the beat em up shit. Battles even take place with a transition screen in the original games. Yakuza has more in common with rpgs than most hybrids which is why the shift to jrpg isn't that much of a departure.

That said I won't have a problem if someone says it's not an rpg either. I see both opinions as valid.

And back when Yakuza came out it was very much praised for its gameplay. It had lots to do, variety, things to unlock. It had a "I wonder what kind of special move this weapon does" appeal to it to the point where you wanted to try out every weapon in the game just to see their Heat.  I really liked the gameplay in the Yakuza games before it became old hat. Some of the boss fights were legitimately dope, like Nishiki vs Kiryu or any Majima boss fight. The gameplay was a feature and asset the story. The amount of moves Kiryu can unlock, between side stepping, counters, combos, just made for a very fun formula.

Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Rahxephon91 on August 29, 2019, 05:10:17 PM
Yes because it makes sense to compare Persona 5 doing maybe now 3 million sales and costing nowhere near the budget of a main line FF game. As an example that FFVII Remake, a clearly expensive AAA game with high sales goals, should be turn based.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Rahxephon91 on August 29, 2019, 05:12:29 PM
Pretty much every game has a level gauge thing. Random battles are the only thing that feel jrpgish. A “hub” city, leveling up things, buying stuff from shops. It’s like every modern open world game.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Himu on August 29, 2019, 05:14:11 PM
Yes because it makes sense to compare Persona 5 doing maybe now 3 million sales and costing nowhere near the budget of a main line FF game. As an example that FFVII Remake, a clearly expensive AAA game with high sales goals, should be turn based.

A turn based game doing 3 million would have been unheard of last gen that isn't named Final Fantasy.

It's also bizarre you're making this argument given the original FFVII sold 10-11 million copies, FFX sold 9 million. FFXIII sold 7 million at last count.

If you have evidence a turn based game sells 3 million it makes no sense to make the argument of sales towards FFVII having an action rpg system. Throw in the history of FF sales and your argument is self defeating and contradictory.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Rahxephon91 on August 29, 2019, 05:17:01 PM
Yeah if you ignore context.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Himu on August 29, 2019, 05:18:08 PM
What's the context? You're still making an argument that a turn based game can sell, while also making an argument that being turn based would limit another game - a game called Final Fantasy VII - from selling. It's hilarious and contradictory. 
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Rahxephon91 on August 29, 2019, 05:39:10 PM
Yeah if you ignore context.

Yeah let’s compare the Gaming landscapes of 97 and 2001 to 2019. Hey I guess according to you FFVII Remake also dosent need voice acting because VII, VIII, and IX sold well.

Like this is stupid. You want to compare a niche series to a mainstream one and then your proof of arguments is “well 10 years ago blah blah blah”. That was ten years ago. VIII Remake is coming out in the development and market realities of 2020. Those realities that also decided that XV should be an action game. A move that probably helped that game to great success.

It makes little sense to compare Persona 5 to FF. Persona 5 trades on it self being JRPG as fuck. It trades on being the most Japanese game possible. FF is a jrpg for the world. It may have anime inspired characters and art direction but they don’t look anywhere as clearly anime as P5. It is a game for a world audience. Budgeted for that as well. We’re talking about two niche series here and you want to compare them to FF. How fucking dumb is that? Persona 5 reaching 3 million sales world wide is probably the peak of that series. A Yakuza selling that would be a miracle. A mainline FF selling just that would be a bomb. Does scale not make sense to you?

Like go ahead, name a turn based game of recent times that has anywhere the budget or sales goals of a modern main FF game. Better yet name a AAA game like FF that dosent have action or at least real time combat. I can’t think of a game at the same level of production of VII Remake that dosent. The closet is DQ and that’s probably an exception.

You also miss the point that no one is saying a turn based FF wouldn’t do well. What people are saying is that an action rpg makes complete sense when your big rpgs are action games. It even makes more sense when you realize even action games have rpg elements now. These entire genres are merging and clearly most of the gaming population is fine, interested, and/or likes this approach. Would the Witcher 3 done as well if it was turn based? Would Mass Effect been a big hit if it didn’t ape cover shooter mechanics that were the trend back then? Probably not. So I’m not sure why you can’t understand that the people who want VII Remake to be as big as possible have decided to make an action based system. I don’t even know why you find this troubling as a fan. When the series has constantly dabbled with real time elements. The ATB is not turn based completely, XII offered actual movement with its atb. XIII is not turn based at all and is largely timed based. XIV is an mmo and has far more action elements then XI. XV is an action game with wait elements. X was basicly the last time the series was ever 100% tun based and its an exception in the series itself. It’s sequel dosent even have the same battle system. So what of VII Remake being action? It’s not even incorrect for the series itself.

You love comparing this to REMake but always forget that ReMake came out in what 2002 when that type of survival horror game was still being made and was popular enough. Then casually make up shit about RE2 Remake. A modern remake that stayed true to the survival roots yet because it was a modern AAA game in 2029 realized it probably needed to play like an over the shoulder game. So I don’t know how that makes sense to you, but action based VII Remake dosent. Where it also seems like they still have materia and wait modes and dosent go to far where it’s not an actual rpg.

Persona 5 did great. The series has strong word of mouth. Built up from the gaming communities hype of 3 and 4. You’re right a Japanese turn based game wouldn’t have done as well last gen. You know what else wouldn’t have? Fucking Yakuza 0. Probably the this gen is not last gen. Japanese games on a whole are doing better. 
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: bork on August 29, 2019, 05:46:11 PM
More Japanese kung-fu cop RPG dicussion plz
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Chooky on August 29, 2019, 05:52:29 PM
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Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: paprikastaude on August 29, 2019, 10:45:30 PM
Word is going around, the new city might be three times the size of Kamurocho.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EDHEM-TUEAARp4c?format=jpg&name=orig)
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Rahxephon91 on August 29, 2019, 11:35:02 PM
Wonder how full on jrpg this is.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Himu on August 30, 2019, 12:13:07 AM
Word is going around, the new city might be three times the size of Kamurocho.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EDHEM-TUEAARp4c?format=jpg&name=orig)

FUck yes
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Himu on August 30, 2019, 12:21:55 AM
Yeah if you ignore context.

Yeah let’s compare the Gaming landscapes of 97 and 2001 to 2019. Hey I guess according to you FFVII Remake also dosent need voice acting because VII, VIII, and IX sold well.

Like this is stupid. You want to compare a niche series to a mainstream one and then your proof of arguments is “well 10 years ago blah blah blah”. That was ten years ago. VIII Remake is coming out in the development and market realities of 2020. Those realities that also decided that XV should be an action game. A move that probably helped that game to great success.

It makes little sense to compare Persona 5 to FF. Persona 5 trades on it self being JRPG as fuck. It trades on being the most Japanese game possible. FF is a jrpg for the world. It may have anime inspired characters and art direction but they don’t look anywhere as clearly anime as P5. It is a game for a world audience. Budgeted for that as well. We’re talking about two niche series here and you want to compare them to FF. How fucking dumb is that? Persona 5 reaching 3 million sales world wide is probably the peak of that series. A Yakuza selling that would be a miracle. A mainline FF selling just that would be a bomb. Does scale not make sense to you?

Like go ahead, name a turn based game of recent times that has anywhere the budget or sales goals of a modern main FF game. Better yet name a AAA game like FF that dosent have action or at least real time combat. I can’t think of a game at the same level of production of VII Remake that dosent. The closet is DQ and that’s probably an exception.

You also miss the point that no one is saying a turn based FF wouldn’t do well. What people are saying is that an action rpg makes complete sense when your big rpgs are action games. It even makes more sense when you realize even action games have rpg elements now. These entire genres are merging and clearly most of the gaming population is fine, interested, and/or likes this approach. Would the Witcher 3 done as well if it was turn based? Would Mass Effect been a big hit if it didn’t ape cover shooter mechanics that were the trend back then? Probably not. So I’m not sure why you can’t understand that the people who want VII Remake to be as big as possible have decided to make an action based system. I don’t even know why you find this troubling as a fan. When the series has constantly dabbled with real time elements. The ATB is not turn based completely, XII offered actual movement with its atb. XIII is not turn based at all and is largely timed based. XIV is an mmo and has far more action elements then XI. XV is an action game with wait elements. X was basicly the last time the series was ever 100% tun based and its an exception in the series itself. It’s sequel dosent even have the same battle system. So what of VII Remake being action? It’s not even incorrect for the series itself.

You love comparing this to REMake but always forget that ReMake came out in what 2002 when that type of survival horror game was still being made and was popular enough. Then casually make up shit about RE2 Remake. A modern remake that stayed true to the survival roots yet because it was a modern AAA game in 2029 realized it probably needed to play like an over the shoulder game. So I don’t know how that makes sense to you, but action based VII Remake dosent. Where it also seems like they still have materia and wait modes and dosent go to far where it’s not an actual rpg.

Persona 5 did great. The series has strong word of mouth. Built up from the gaming communities hype of 3 and 4. You’re right a Japanese turn based game wouldn’t have done as well last gen. You know what else wouldn’t have? Fucking Yakuza 0. Probably the this gen is not last gen. Japanese games on a whole are doing better.

The voice acting argument is a total straw man as I never said that and is a complete hypothetical.

Here are the facts:

- Final Fantasy VII Remake is still Final Fantasy
- There are no turn based rpgs being made of that budget

You are correct. But the original FFVII was also the most expensive game of all time in its day and it was a turn based rpg with a multi million dollar campaign behind it.

Yes, the market is  different, but Final Fantasy has survived despite that shift. In fact, Final Fantasy, aside from Pokemon and until recently Persona, was the ONLY turn based jrpg that sold 7, 8, 9, 10 million units.

Your argument would be logical that "there are no turn based games being made of that budget" if we were talking about a no name franchise.

But we aren't. We are talking about Final Fantasy. And not just any Final Fantasy. The remake of a Final Fantasy that had a multi-million dollar marketing campaign and had a turn based battle system.

Then you're arguing Yakuza 7 can sell because Persona 5 proved turn based rpgs can sell well?

You're jumping through hoops. Your logic is entirely circular.

How circular? Yakzua 0 is an aside. My bringing up Persona 5's sales is more bigger than "Japanese games are more popular now." Persona 5 has now transcended jrpgs and joined the trifecta now making it a quadra. For the entirety of the genres history 200k was the best most jrpgs could amass in America. Now we're talking about a series that is going towards selling 3m worldwide. That is more than "Japanese games are more popular now". What ultimately makes your argument circular is how you argue,"Japanese games are more popular now" while also in the same post arguing why a turn based FFVII remake can't sell when FFVII is probably the most famous console jrpg of all time and you can't get more Japanese than that.

Circular logic.

It's less that you're open to anything, and more that you're just loyal to certain franchises and refuse to admit it. You're a fanboy. That's fine. But you refuse to admit that and use a poor wall of logic to defend your fanboy preferences while also demeaning and be condescending or even much less understanding to other people's preferences. Which makes you more than a fanboy now. Now, it just makes you an asshole.

Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Himu on August 30, 2019, 12:40:09 AM
Anyways can I give the new guy a haircut?

Is there actual footage of the combat because I haven’t seen it? Granted my phone network is pretty blah lately (thanks AT&T). I skipped around the trailer and just saw some story shit.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Rahxephon91 on August 30, 2019, 12:51:09 AM
First of all.

Fuck you.

You are one of the most whinny fanboys I have ever seen on gaf, the bore, wherever. You constantly complain about every single series you love, bitch that they don’t do what you want, and then act like you are the most biggest fan ever. Like you claiming that people who played Yakuza for a year....even brining it up sums that exact kind of fan you are.

You do not know what my taste or opinions are and you are the last person that gets to call anyone a fanboy. Not when there are years of agonizing Shenmue posts from you.

2nd, my logic is the most simple logic to follow.

Action rpgs=Easier to market.

Turn based=More niche.

Why the fuck would I compare FF to Persona. Why would you compare Yakuza to FF.  You simply can’t wrap your head around simple market fact. All anyone has to do is really look at ReMake 2. Why wasn’t a multimillion AAA Remake a tank controls, fixed camera angle horror game. Because Capcom is not an idiot and knows an over the shoulder action game is the most accessible. And this is in a world where ports of Remake 1 and 0 sold well.

It is the exact situation here. An action FFVII is probably going to do better then a turn based. It’s even more logical as fucking FFXV exists.

You want to compare Persona 5, but that’s stupid. Persona 5’s 3 million is well below the sales goals of fucking FFVII Remake.

Again your argument doesn’t make any damn sense. No one said a turn based game couldn’t sell. What is being said is there is probably a ceiling.

And I brought up Persona 5 because as a niche series, it’s in the same ballpark as Yakuza. You know what’s not in the same ballpark?

Final Fantasy VII.

Oh but you see a turn based FFVII sold millions in 1997.

Yes, in 1997 where we didn’t have action games like Devil May Cry, open worlds hadn’t been cracked open by GTA3, rpgs weren’t trying to be Skyrim, third person shooters had lock on, Bungie didn’t show people how console FPS worked on console, and arpgs weren’t far removed from Ys gameplay of running into enemies.

It’s almost as if times have changed and games exceptions, development trends, tastes, and so on have changed.

Oh but Persona 5 did well.

Yeah and?

Uncharted does well. Dosent mean the trend isn’t open world games or multiplayer focused games and not a risk in single player focused narrative games.

Devil May Cry 5 has done about as well as Persona 5. So I guess God of War should go back to it’s more combo heavy gameplay. Oh wait it probably switched to more Souls influenced because that’s the current trend and oh gee probably was expected to bettter and did better then DMC ever would have.

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It's less that you're open to anything, and more that you're just loyal to certain franchises and refuse to admit it. You're a fanboy. That's fine. But you refuse to admit that and use a poor wall of logic to defend your fanboy preferences while also demeaning and be condescending or even much less understanding to other people's preferences. Which makes you more than a fanboy now. Now, it just makes you an a
Ive never seen someone project so hard in my life.

The reality here is because like things you don’t or are fine with them, you feel the need to condescend and be an asshole to them.

Because you know if what you said was true, I’d still like Metal Gear...
But whatever I don’t give a shit. You’re on ignore.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: nachobro on August 30, 2019, 10:10:49 AM
hm i guess the new style isn't too bad

(https://i.redd.it/9zb8g8et3gj31.jpg)
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Himu on August 30, 2019, 10:28:40 AM
Since it’s DQ the bike probably works as a multi hit lmao. That’s probably the whip of the game.

Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Rahxephon91 on August 30, 2019, 10:30:29 AM
It’s Pokémon.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Himu on August 30, 2019, 10:39:24 AM
I’m not talking about the image. The meme made me think how the bike would work with a turn based system. Since they say they’re inspired by DQ I think the bike might work like a whip, which is a weapon that hits most enemies in a line. Or it could be like the boomerang and hit every enemy in a line. The bike in Yak is fantastic for crowd clearing so it’d make a hilarious transition for that. Plus there’s the added hilarity of the potential of maybe being able to keep the bike in your pocket and you whip it out.

Only confusing thing is, how does the system work? DQ is all about formation lines since it’s traditionally in first person. In that battle system image the characters are all across the map lmao. I’ve also never played a third person Dragon Quest inspired game. I gotta see a video of this. :lol
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Himu on August 30, 2019, 10:50:50 AM
I don’t think the battle system is like DQ. That formation is too chaotic. Ha. Looks more like Grandia/FFX-2/Persona 3-5 tbh. Def not a static rpg system where characters stick to their lane but one where they chase the enemy and change placement. There’s also a possibility of it being a hybrid. Like Valkyrie Profile 2, FFXII, or an srpg. Those are games that allow movement on top of turn based combat.

I gotta see a video of this.

Since Yakuza games are so environmental I think movement would be best. You can’t have a Yakuza game without grabbing some poor suckers head and making it hit a wall. :lol I can imagine the combat will be very experimental despite their initial announcement because that’s probably the only logical way to make how Yakuza works into a turn based rpg. I always said the next step for turn based rpg combat is using the environment. Games like VP2 flirted with it. It’ll be interesting how this works.

I need a video. Lol

Really hoping for a hybrid. :hyper
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Rufus on August 30, 2019, 10:52:37 AM
Where do you two draw all this energy from? :goty2
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Himu on August 30, 2019, 10:59:16 AM
Where do you two draw all this energy from? :goty2

Autism. Its power! :jeb
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: paprikastaude on August 30, 2019, 02:37:30 PM
https://gematsu.com/2019/08/yakuza-like-a-dragon-chief-producer-further-details-live-command-rpg-battle-system
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Himu on August 30, 2019, 02:41:31 PM
Called it. It's movement-based. A hybrid :jeb

That way, you can move your character and when your heat bar is full, if you're near a wall, you can smash your enemies skull into the wall. :rejoice

Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Bebpo on August 30, 2019, 03:22:01 PM
Read that and saw the battle clip video and not sold right now. Hope it turns out fun & strategic though. I get they wanted to move to a team rpg with party members but maybe something like FFXII’s gambit system would’ve been a better fit.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Himu on August 30, 2019, 03:52:41 PM
Post battle clip please
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: bork on August 30, 2019, 04:36:25 PM
Post battle clip please

https://twitter.com/game_watch/status/1166932295015518208
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: bork on August 30, 2019, 04:37:11 PM
Might as well just watch the "April Fool's" video since it's the same thing but with 8-bit music added.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noioqCv92hM

If the game really is as crazy as this, I'm all for it.  :lol
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: kingv on August 30, 2019, 04:38:11 PM
Whoa it’s really fucking slow.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Himu on August 30, 2019, 04:50:45 PM
Might as well just watch the "April Fool's" video since it's the same thing but with 8-bit music added.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noioqCv92hM

If the game really is as crazy as this, I'm all for it.  :lol

Looks crazy. The girl is the biggest DQ influence in the video.

Biggest problem is speed. It’s slow as all fuck with a lot of elaborate animations and shit. Despite being like four minutes long battle there were maybe less than 10 turns taken.

Looking at the twitter gameplay footage it looks like they’ve either fixed the speed issue or the April fools video just used the most damaging, high animated attacks for show.

One thing we can confirm is that Heat is basically your Mana. It also looks based around team attacks.

Characters also have a “down” state like Xenosaga 2. Lol

Gotta love them pulling a spiked fucking bat out of their pockets. :lol

Let me put a bike in my pants lmao
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Himu on August 30, 2019, 04:56:01 PM
You can tell DQ has a massive influence. This is basically what DQ would look like if it took place in a modern setting and had realistic graphics. This is oozing DQ charm.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: kingv on August 30, 2019, 06:31:25 PM
Everything about the April fools thing looks cool except for the speed. And honestly the little clip looks slow af too.

A normal Yakuza game, with the same encounter rate and no other changes other than this combat system would be like 200 hours.

Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Rahxephon91 on August 30, 2019, 07:09:47 PM
Looks kind of lame actually.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Mr Gilhaney on August 30, 2019, 07:19:04 PM
Looks kind of lame actually.

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Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Himu on August 30, 2019, 07:21:10 PM
Everything about the April fools thing looks cool except for the speed. And honestly the little clip looks slow af too.

A normal Yakuza game, with the same encounter rate and no other changes other than this combat system would be like 200 hours.



I don’t see it changing as the animations are elaborate. Hope for a speed option.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: kingv on August 30, 2019, 07:48:00 PM
The April fools stuff looked sufficiently polished, but the twitter clips looks like it’s mini game tier.

They do crank these game out so quickly, it makes me wonder how good of a job
They can realistically do with what the schedules must be.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Rahxephon91 on August 30, 2019, 08:21:28 PM
Would have preferred a turn based battle ala FFX or Persona. This looks like low energy Grandia.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Himu on August 30, 2019, 10:20:37 PM
I’ll wait for more footage
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Mr. Nobody on September 01, 2019, 10:48:02 AM
Listen, Yakuza 7 has been announced and quite frankly, that's good enough for me.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: paprikastaude on September 01, 2019, 11:31:54 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wHKysg4UWE

:lawd all in for the new saga
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: bork on September 01, 2019, 02:52:12 PM
"Just like in Dragon Quest!"

 :lol
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: nachobro on September 01, 2019, 03:26:49 PM
Yakuza: Like a Dragon (Quest)
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: BIONIC on September 03, 2019, 01:44:40 AM
Being stuck at work when all you wanna do is manage a cabaret club :goty
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: bork on September 11, 2019, 07:09:53 AM
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The latest issue of Weekly Famitsu has new information on Yakuza: Like a Dragon (Yakuza 7: Whereabouts of Light and Darkness).

Get the tidbits below.

Characters

Saeko Mukouda (voiced by Sumire Uesaka) – Cabaret hostess.

Kouichi Adachi (voiced by Akio Ootsuka) – A former detective. He has received an unreasonable demotion by Horinouchi, the Superintendent General of the Metropolitan Police, for revolting against him. He is working with protagonist Ichiban Kasuga to get closer to Masumi Arakawa, who holds the evidence.

Live Command RPG Battle

When a battle begins, the regular people and those wearing delinquent-like outfits on the field will transform into RPG-like enemy characters with mohawks, or be half-naked, and have weapons.

Summons

By paying money on your smartphone in battle, you can summon help. A large number of characters can be summoned, including Gary Buster Holmes, Gonda Wara, a crayfish, and more. Summons can support you in battle through attack, recovery, and more.

Play Spots

Dragon Kart – A racing game set on a course in the streets of Yokosuka. Pick up boxes to obtain weapons like a rocket launcher or Gatling gun.
       
Traditional Movie Theater – Ichiban Kasuga always falls asleep in the middle of a movie. This is a button-pressing (rhythm game?) where Kasuga battles the temptation of a sheep man in order to overcome that sleepiness.

PachiSlot – PachiSlot games Million God: Kamigami no Gaisen Another God Hades: Ubowareta ZEUS Ver., PachiSlot Fist of the Blue Sky: Houyuu, and PachiSlot Moujuuou: Ouja no Houkou appear. Settings do not reset when you leave the parlor, but rather change with specific timing. Machines located closer to the entrance have higher rates, which reflect the settings of real life parlors. This is the only PachiSlot simulator running on PlayStation 4.

Yakuza: Like a Dragon is due out for PlayStation 4 on January 16, 2020 in Japan, and in 2020 in the Americas and Europe.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Rahxephon91 on September 12, 2019, 01:45:49 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=42&v=2rabEooWDC4

It just looks really dumb now. And wow do the party members look shitty.

I kind of think a one person battle system like Lightning Returns or the Last Ranker would have been better.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: BIONIC on September 12, 2019, 03:16:38 AM
Finished Y0 last weekend with all substories (minus Amon), and in the finale of Kiwami with all subs done (minus Amon) right now as well. Probably gonna start Kiwami 2 tonight since I just got it on sale.

Minus the (mostly) shitty mini games, I’m loving these games far more than I ever imagined.

:jeb Where has this series been all my life? :jeb

P.S: Y7 looks fucking sick, but I’ll only day one it if I’m done with the rest of the games by then.

P.P.S: Make Binary Domain 2 already you fucking cunts :stahp
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: kingv on September 12, 2019, 07:24:38 AM
Does the main character have Majima’s voice actor?

They should have just made Y7 a Majima game.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: bork on September 12, 2019, 08:07:07 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4x6FUgFl-KQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=42&v=2rabEooWDC4

It just looks really dumb now. And wow do the party members look shitty.

I kind of think a one person battle system like Lightning Returns or the Last Ranker would have been better.

Looks like it's going to be fun as hell.  Am really hyped for this now :hyper
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Himu on September 12, 2019, 11:25:16 AM
This looks so great. I knew it’d be environmental in the battles but not that much. Breaking glass to get into stores, getting folks ran over by trucks and shit. This looks amazing.

The balls to do this right when the series gets popular lmao
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: paprikastaude on September 12, 2019, 12:16:47 PM
looks absolutely amazing
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: bork on September 13, 2019, 07:08:09 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IVlhbO5uYlM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gDszjXt6wkE
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: kingv on September 13, 2019, 08:04:17 AM
The fights still look super slow in that actual gameplay footage.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Himu on September 13, 2019, 02:39:27 PM
what is the trailing/motion blur while running ???
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: paprikastaude on September 13, 2019, 02:56:03 PM
it needs to either be faster or have less battles. can't have neither. would be sad if they fuck it up and then don't get a chance to improve it, because they'd immediately go back.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Himu on September 13, 2019, 03:59:46 PM
add a Megaten esque auto feature that speeds up battle bah gawd
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: paprikastaude on September 13, 2019, 05:29:16 PM
they need to consult atlus, I mean what did they buy them for.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: paprikastaude on November 17, 2019, 08:59:01 AM
Yakuza 7 demo out in Japan. I won't try it in Japanese, but apparently it's good - random mobs can be defeated quickly.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Bebpo on November 28, 2019, 03:12:45 PM
So I tried the demo for 7 and it's pretty funny. Like it plays the gag game/parody off really well and is fun and kept me laughing. I don't know if they can keep this up for an entire game, but if so this will actually be pretty great. Also, as a middle age guy with middle age friends I appreciate this rpg starring a middle age guy and his middle age friends.

I was gonna pass on it since I'm still pretty behind on the main series, but since it seems unrelated and this demo is great, I think I'll give it a shot. Just wish there was a PC version at launch.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Bebpo on November 30, 2019, 11:26:00 AM
Btw, I like that the gag in RGG7 is the main guy is delusional and thinks he's in an rpg and everything that happens is head fantasy version of reality and even the people in his "party" don't see anything he's seeing and are like "haha, you're crazy but it's all good". It's pretty funny and gives them a lot of room to do crazy ridiculous stuff. He's also like the complete opposite of Kiryu as a lead since he's a jobless late 30s or 40 something loser with mental issues. I dunno how they can make him the lead for multiple games since it seems like a one trick pony kinda lead.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: bork on December 13, 2019, 03:03:32 PM
https://twitter.com/RGGStudio/status/1205578133337804800
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Rahxephon91 on December 21, 2019, 05:08:52 AM
I've been playing Judgement. I'm on chapter 4 and it's.....kind of boring.

I mean the gameplay is fine enough. I like how the main character feels to play. The story is interesting. Just seems like it has a lot of filler and is too long. 
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: porkbun on December 26, 2019, 08:15:12 AM
I got 6 for Christmas.  I spent most of my time in the game yesterday playing Virtua Fighter and Space Harrier in the arcade.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Coffee Dog on December 26, 2019, 10:35:31 AM
I grabbed judgement for cheap with christmas bucks. I'm gonna be all out of yakuzas soon enough!
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Joe Molotov on January 14, 2020, 12:32:30 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/ckaoKDB.png)
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Rufus on January 14, 2020, 12:37:12 PM
This ain't your grandfathers puff-puff JRPG.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Sho Nuff on January 14, 2020, 09:38:03 PM
After Judgment I....I don't think I can play these games anymore

I'm sorry, it's just...I've had enough  :nope
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Coffee Dog on January 15, 2020, 10:54:32 AM
I'm in chapter 7 of Judgement. Pretty fun, I like how Yagami plays a lot. Love the walljumps and flipping over people's heads.

Story's slow and gets frequently bogged down with sidebars that other Yakuza games would leave as optional, but it's well told despite that. Hope it wraps up before it gets too stupid.

Edit: i do have to add though: this game has the worst encounter rates out of every one of these Yakuzas I've played barring the first one. Even utilizing taxis you run into 2-3 every time you go somewhere, and Yagami doesn't have any equipment slots to put an item that disables them. The best you have is a craftable potion that disables encounters for 5 minutes, which is a very inelegant solution to a problem that has no reason to exist.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: bork on February 26, 2020, 10:55:51 AM
https://www.gematsu.com/2020/02/yakuza-like-a-dragon-dlc-additional-challenge-expansion-pack-announced-includes-new-game-plus-and-high-difficulty-mode

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Sega will release the paid downloadable content “Additional Challenge Expansion Pack” for Yakuza: Like a Dragon “soon” in Japan, which will add additional challenge elements such as “New Game Plus” and a “High Difficulty Mode” limited to a second playthrough, the company announced.

New game plus and higher difficulty settings are going to be PAID DLC?

 :whatisthis
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: nachobro on February 26, 2020, 11:05:52 AM
 :holeup that shit better be included when the game makes it over here
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: demi on February 26, 2020, 11:20:49 AM
Seems useless to me. I don't plan on touching "NG+" or a "harder playthrough" that already requires a clear first. Only diehard Yakuza fans should be annoyed. That's probably none of us
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: bdoughty on March 03, 2020, 09:22:27 AM
Never played any of the Yakuza games. Saw Zero in Gamepass and thought I would give it a shot. Possibly the most boring opening thirty minutes of a game I have ever played. Felt like a damn Poodle on a short leach. Then the dialogue, oh fuck me running, shut up already. Even fast forwarding through he dialog and skipping cutscene after cutscene it just would not stop. Combat felt like nothing special and I estimated it would be 45 hours in before they let you have a weapon that was not a piece of furniture or lead pipe. Camera was wonky and I just gave up after playing though all the karaoke songs, which was the only thing I had found enjoyable due my love of boom boom rocket and rock band blitz. Even there, you got to do one song at the beginning and only after a couple hundred button presses to speed up conversation and roughly twenty five skipped cut scenes and loading screens I made it far enough to walk down a street without being told, "FUCK YOU mission is not this way" and was able to play more songs.



Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Joe Molotov on March 03, 2020, 10:46:47 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FdKrNmYl0yo

I'm sold. :expert
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: porkbun on March 03, 2020, 01:36:24 PM
Never played any of the Yakuza games. Saw Zero in Gamepass and thought I would give it a shot. Possibly the most boring opening thirty minutes of a game I have ever played. Felt like a damn Poodle on a short leach. Then the dialogue, oh fuck me running, shut up already. Even fast forwarding through he dialog and skipping cutscene after cutscene it just would not stop. Combat felt like nothing special and I estimated it would be 45 hours in before they let you have a weapon that was not a piece of furniture or lead pipe. Camera was wonky and I just gave up after playing though all the karaoke songs, which was the only thing I had found enjoyable due my love of boom boom rocket and rock band blitz. Even there, you got to do one song at the beginning and only after a couple hundred button presses to speed up conversation and roughly twenty five skipped cut scenes and loading screens I made it far enough to walk down a street without being told, "FUCK YOU mission is not this way" and was able to play more songs.

The games aren't for everyone for sure.  They are very Japanese in the heavy story element/cutscenes and somewhat obtuse control.  Once you get past the first story missions or two, the city opens up more and you can explore.  The combat does get better the more you go into the game also.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: kingv on March 03, 2020, 02:38:31 PM
How fun you find Yakuza is highly correlated to how much you like weird Japanese shit.

The gameplay is mostly serviceable but if you laugh at grown men in diapers or mini games about fapping to cam girls, you might like it.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: nachobro on March 03, 2020, 02:40:25 PM
Zero also has the longest intro/tutorial of any of the series that I've played. It takes FOREVER
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: kingv on March 03, 2020, 02:47:20 PM
Zero’s story is pretty great though. I really liked all the characters, and the introduction to Majima is an awesome cutscene, even though it’s like 30 minutes long.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: thetylerrob on March 03, 2020, 02:52:35 PM
If you don't like Yakuza 0 you have a smooth brain. I'm sorry, but it's true.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: kingv on March 03, 2020, 10:13:20 PM
Zero also has the longest intro/tutorial of any of the series that I've played. It takes FOREVER

Iirc the intro is really low budget too. Like it has this weird graphic novel style in the beginning, and then it abandons that for bigger budget and then goes back to it in like one part later. It’s like they ran out of budget or something.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: kingv on May 18, 2020, 09:22:30 PM
I finally started up Judgment. I’m liking the new character and the change of pace.

One thing about Kiryu is he’s such a dull cardboard cutout of a character. Tak feels much more like a real person. The English voice acting is pretty good too, except there’s one dude who sounds a lot like Dave Chapelle to me, and the scene he’s in just seems weird because of it.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: curly on July 12, 2020, 09:38:15 PM
kiwami is so obnoxious  :yuck

0 was a fun game with some rough patches, kiwami is a shit game with a few bright spots, mostly sidequests.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Positive Touch on July 12, 2020, 10:03:10 PM
respect the blueprint son
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: curly on July 12, 2020, 10:20:31 PM
how much is changed in kiwami from the original? because coming from 0 with no other yakuza experience it feels extremely similar to 0 but slightly to a lot worse in almost every respect, like a cheaply put together sequel of that game
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: curly on July 12, 2020, 10:23:01 PM
I did like making the sexy insect ladies fight though
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Positive Touch on July 12, 2020, 10:54:55 PM
how much is changed in kiwami from the original? because coming from 0 with no other yakuza experience it feels extremely similar to 0 but slightly to a lot worse in almost every respect, like a cheaply put together sequel of that game

very, very little. the form switching in combat is new, the scenes with kazuma's old friend are new, the majima everywhere is new, and some minigames are new or changed. other than that it's pretty much the same, right down to the frame-for-frame story scenes.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: paprikastaude on July 13, 2020, 09:56:48 AM
The original also still had fixed cameras like Resident Evil with load times inbetween streets. :doge

Should be treated as a story epilogue for 0 these days. It's not great as a game on its own.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: demi on July 13, 2020, 11:26:57 AM
Kiwami > Yakuza 0
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: curly on July 13, 2020, 01:01:13 PM
What are you stupid
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: thetylerrob on July 13, 2020, 01:10:14 PM
Kiwami is pretty rough if you're coming from 0 but you really have to keep in mind that it's the original PS2 game with better graphics and combat, Not a sequel to 0. If you're trying to catch up with the series I think it's okay to turn the difficulty down and just follow the main story. I don't remember if they added many new substories to Kiwami but a lot of those were pretty simple/boring in the original.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: demi on July 13, 2020, 06:48:00 PM
What are you stupid

- Better story
- Better characters
- Better combat
- No terrible cabaret/real estate
- Better XP system

All Yakuza 0 has going for it are the cute GIFs people post - but they never actually seem to talk about the game itself
Weird
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: bork on September 25, 2020, 01:04:11 AM
Gematsu:

-Sega will announce the latest entry in the Yakuza series during the Sega Nama broadcast at Tokyo Game Show 2020 Online on September 27 at 20:00 JST,

-Sega is developing a live-action film based on its Yakuza video game franchise with 1212 Entertainment and Wild Sheep Content, according to a Variety report.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: paprikastaude on September 25, 2020, 02:05:32 AM
Thank god, it's only been an hour since the localisation of 7 was confirmed, definitely need a new Yakuza.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: paprikastaude on September 25, 2020, 09:05:52 AM
https://twitter.com/gematsucom/status/1309469225896103936
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: demi on September 25, 2020, 09:51:55 AM
Currently up to Yakuza 4 in my series playthrough

Every game so far has been leagues above Yakuza 0 EXCEPT Yakuza 3.

Yakuza 3 was just that bad, and I'm not sure a Kiwami version could even save it
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: demi on September 25, 2020, 12:36:54 PM
Majority of Yakuza minigames are dogshit, nobody's missing out
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: paprikastaude on September 25, 2020, 01:53:56 PM
Imagine the sick souls who don't spend every first three hours of a Yakuza game with darts. :jeanluc
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: demi on September 25, 2020, 04:05:41 PM
Three hours I could spend not doing dogshit minigames instead
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Pissy F Benny on September 25, 2020, 04:10:27 PM
I’ve mainlined the yakuza games I’ve played :rash
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Positive Touch on September 25, 2020, 05:54:29 PM
man i wanted to fight the secret boss in Yakuza 2, but i will smash this controller before i ever end up beating this stupid baseball sidequest. i can't stand the fucking timing on that one.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: demi on September 29, 2020, 12:36:00 PM
Almost done with Yakuza 4 and it takes such a liquid shit over Yakuza 3

Also for Y0 fans, Yakuza 4 is pretty much the sequel (the story is heavily centered around what happened in 1985 - particularly Saejima's big shootout shown during Majima's backstory in Y0)

Next up: Yakuza Zombies  :o
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: demi on October 01, 2020, 12:12:46 AM
Dead Souls rules
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Bebpo on October 01, 2020, 12:58:13 AM
Dead Souls rules

 :doge
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Sho Nuff on October 04, 2020, 10:22:33 PM
Dead Souls rules

 :doge

Yes it god damn sure does
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Mr. Gundam on October 05, 2020, 11:38:41 AM
The horribly Engrish Japanese title, OF THE END, is better, but that game is so bad it's good.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Akala on October 05, 2020, 04:24:36 PM
Is Yak 5 really twice as long as the rest of them? Saw on howlongtobeat, seems most are around 20 and 5 is ~40?
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Sho Nuff on October 06, 2020, 09:19:07 PM
Is Yak 5 really twice as long as the rest of them? Saw on howlongtobeat, seems most are around 20 and 5 is ~40?

 It's REAL fucking long.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: paprikastaude on October 06, 2020, 10:48:54 PM
They wanted it to be the series San Andreas and bloated it up with multiple districts. Never played it because you can gtfo with anything idols.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Sho Nuff on October 07, 2020, 12:51:26 AM
They wanted it to be the series San Andreas and bloated it up with multiple districts. Never played it because you can gtfo with anything idols.

By the time I got to the final character I was MORE than ready for that shit to wrap. I think this is the game that broke me on the series.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: demi on October 07, 2020, 01:32:23 AM
Damn, well I'll find out after I finish Dead Souls then
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: bork on October 14, 2020, 03:05:00 PM
Needs to be in two threads!

https://twitter.com/Wario64/status/1316433710053388288
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Supermanisdead on October 17, 2020, 04:12:47 AM
what's the word with this new turn based yakuza? do i need to have played any of the other ones to understand it? just want a cool jrpg to play
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: bork on October 17, 2020, 08:18:59 AM
what's the word with this new turn based yakuza? do i need to have played any of the other ones to understand it? just want a cool jrpg to play

Shouldn't be necessary.

https://www.inverse.com/gaming/yakuza-like-a-dragon-release-date-trailer-smart-delivery-george-takei
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Despite being labeled in Japan as Yakuza 7, this is a soft reboot of the Yakuza franchise. The protagonist and gameplay are both different from previous games. You don’t need to play other Yakuza titles to follow the story, but references will be made to previous narratives. The story will feel more rewarding if you’ve played at least one Yakuza title prior to starting Like a Dragon.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: demi on October 17, 2020, 08:14:43 PM
Finished Yakuza Zombies.

It was annoying constantly loading back and forth between the zombie zone and the regular zone, and the controls (camera/aiming) were wonky, but I enjoyed it.

Yakuza 5 next!
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: BIONIC on October 19, 2020, 04:42:56 AM
Continued my Yakuza journey a couple of weeks ago with 4. Pretty fun, but Akiyama and Tanimiura are super lame compared to Kiryu and a lesser extent Saejima. It’s probably why I dropped it in the first place.

Then got through FotNS last week. Really fun marriage of two things I love. A bit too zany for the source material, and the original characters were lame, but I still had lots of fun.

Started Y5, and so far it’s really good. My boy Kiryu looks so old and tired  :foxx  I just want him to be happy  :tocry  :goty

I’m weirdly enjoying the taxi missions. They usually have a fun little story to break up the monotony.

I’m not looking forward to the game making me go full  :jared  by having me play as idol Haruka  :yuck
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: paprikastaude on October 25, 2020, 08:31:55 PM
I wonder what the decisioning was to not do a Kiwami version for 3-4-5 and instead just do straight ports with only graphics/framerate improved.

(https://i.giphy.com/media/Zl8rba0dlhlqU/200.webp)
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Bebpo on October 25, 2020, 08:51:19 PM
I wonder what the decisioning was to not do a Kiwami version for 3-4-5 and instead just do straight ports with only graphics/framerate improved.

(https://i.giphy.com/media/Zl8rba0dlhlqU/200.webp)

Nah, 3-5 were on PS3. 1-2 were PS2 games. People don't want to play PS2 games as straight ports. People are still ok with straight port 60fps/4k PS3 games.

Made more sense to completely redo 1 & 2 and spend the time/resources on other games instead of full 3-5 remakes.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Bebpo on October 25, 2020, 09:07:25 PM
Oh I thought 1/2 were PS3 as well

Nah, they looked great for PS2, but looked like this:

(https://i.imgur.com/SybbAI4h.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/PeHlcEQh.jpg)
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: demi on October 25, 2020, 09:14:24 PM
Y3 was the first game on PS3, it's straight dogshit. It improves dramatically in 4. Honestly just skip 3, it's so trash

A kiwami version wouldnt save it at all
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: demi on October 25, 2020, 09:22:43 PM
So do it in a better Yakuza game
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Bebpo on October 25, 2020, 11:07:30 PM
I like Y3, demi is just being a jerkface  :maf
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: demi on October 25, 2020, 11:14:43 PM
But Yakuza 5 has you fight Giant Bears
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Bebpo on October 26, 2020, 12:23:34 AM
So? Maybe Y5 is better. Not disagreeing. I've only played 1, 2, 3, Kenzan, and Ishin and a bit of the zombie one.

I'd rate them 1 (for its time, 1 original does not hold up) > Kenzan > 2 > Ishin > 3

But I still liked 3 a lot and would recommend it any day. It might be the worst game in the mainline series idk, but if the worst game is still a fun 8/10 or something, that's fine.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: demi on October 26, 2020, 12:27:28 AM
4 > K2 > K1 > Dead Souls > 0 > 3
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Bebpo on October 26, 2020, 01:06:28 AM
But everyone keeps saying 0 is the bestttt (possibly because a lot of people started with 0)
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: demi on October 26, 2020, 01:08:28 AM
And there's weirdos who think Y3 is good :shrug:

Y5 has me hunting bears in the forest like Elmer Fudd like a Yakuza Roguelike
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: BIONIC on October 26, 2020, 01:31:24 AM
Y3 is the least polished Yakuza game on PS4, but I still liked it. It has some atrocious substory unlock conditions though that involves getting way too good at the shitty mini games, so it’s the only game where I didn’t bother doing all of them.

As for Y5, I really fucking loved everything about Kiryu’s section. Just perfectly distilled Yakuza fuckery.

Saejima’s was just pure filler. I still had fun with it, but like why is this entire hunting village subplot even a thing lmao.

I’m currently going through Haruka’s section, and it’s basically a James simulator at this point  :foxx
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: demi on October 26, 2020, 02:01:41 AM
Yeah Saejima's chapter is a complete slog after Kiryu's
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Sho Nuff on October 26, 2020, 02:13:49 AM
By the time I got to the last character in the game I was ready for it to be OVER. That bit was thankfully pretty short if you skip the side content.

Also doesn't 5 have the Virtua Fighter pachinko games emulated? That shit is HOT
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: BIONIC on October 26, 2020, 02:52:43 AM
Pachinko  :jeanluc
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: demi on October 26, 2020, 09:31:14 AM
Y4 had a VF pachinko machine, I got a trophy off it :3
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Rahxephon91 on October 26, 2020, 10:59:10 PM
But everyone keeps saying 0 is the bestttt (possibly because a lot of people started with 0)
I started with 1 on the PS2. I'd say 0 is up there, but to me 2 and 4 are the real standouts. Haven't played 6.

I have never been less interested in a new Yakuza with 7 though.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: BIONIC on November 01, 2020, 03:34:46 AM
Finished 5.

Haruka’s section was generally crappy, though it had a few fun sub stories at least.

Akiyama plays much better here than in 4, and I feel even personality wise he became more endearing.

I really loved Shinada’s section. His combat opens up nicely. All his story content (main, side, sub) was pretty cool too, with a nice cast of characters. Kinda reminded me of the movie Kingpin (which I love).

Finale went too long (much the like the game in general), but had the usual dumb fun twists and turns the series is known for. Final boss was pretty crazy.

Overall fun game, but way all over the place. Still, I appreciate their ambition.

Onto 6…
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Coffee Dog on November 01, 2020, 01:25:49 PM
But everyone keeps saying 0 is the bestttt (possibly because a lot of people started with 0)

Having played 0, K1, K2, FOTNS and Judgement, Zero still has the best plot and combat imo. And I really, really liked K2.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: paprikastaude on November 01, 2020, 01:36:47 PM
But everyone keeps saying 0 is the bestttt (possibly because a lot of people started with 0)

More like they say that it's the one to start with, not necessarily because it's the best, but because it's the least intimitating way to enter the series.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Pissy F Benny on November 01, 2020, 02:28:59 PM
I think its da best :trumps
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: kingv on November 01, 2020, 03:40:29 PM
I think it’s the best too.

Drsgon engine never quite caught up to the old engine, and I guess probably never will now
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: demi on November 01, 2020, 04:00:44 PM
Doing some last minute trophy cleanup in Y5

Gameplay is good, story is too bloated and feels like it goes nowhere. Even at the end when all the reveals happen you're still sitting there like "what the fuck?". Entire chapters dedicated to absolute bullshit that is irrelevant. Akiyama's bits being the best because Akiyama is the best. Shinada is the most wack character. Should have just brought back Tanimura

4 > K1 > K2 > Dead Souls > 0 > 5 > 3
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: demi on November 01, 2020, 11:10:25 PM
Yakuza 3: Everyone Has Daddy Issues
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: BIONIC on November 02, 2020, 10:33:12 AM
Also the plot point of every living human being.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: demi on November 08, 2020, 12:55:22 PM
Yakuza 6 rules, wayyyyy better than Yakuza 5

The spear fishing minigame is easily one of the best
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Bebpo on November 08, 2020, 01:40:05 PM
Yakuza 7 reviews are super good. Looking forward to skipping 4/5/6/0 and playing that sometime in the next year and then getting back to Kiryu games.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: paprikastaude on November 08, 2020, 02:00:54 PM
I sometimes want to pick up 6 for cheap because I want to try minigames like baseball and fishing, but I don't care for more Haruka idol stories nor crippled Kamurocho.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: demi on November 08, 2020, 02:11:09 PM
Haruka is barely in the game, and all the stuff removed is useless junk like Bowling. Spearfishing & Clan Creator make up for it. Yakuza 6 is also one of the easiest Plats to get in the game because they eased the fuck up on the requirements.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: paprikastaude on November 08, 2020, 02:20:51 PM
oh now I remember, Haruka was the no-go for 5, in 6 it's the baby.

anyway, 7 tomorrow  :rash
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Pissy F Benny on November 08, 2020, 04:37:26 PM
Are there any vids with 30+ mins of unedited gameplay of koozer 7 out there? From what I’ve seen, which isn’t more than a couple of random vids, the battles look like a fucking slog to get thru
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: demi on November 08, 2020, 04:42:52 PM
oh now I remember, Haruka was the no-go for 5, in 6 it's the baby.

anyway, 7 tomorrow  :rash

The baby is a major plot point, but is very much out of the picture. There's one early bit where Kiryu has to find milk and you have to do this silly mini game to calm the baby down, but after that the baby is a non-issue. This game is pretty much Kiyru being an old man beating up people and getting reminded that Kiryu is in fact an old boomer.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: kingv on November 09, 2020, 07:58:30 PM
Biggest problem with 6 is the new engine. There’s just less of everything
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: demi on November 09, 2020, 08:28:06 PM
Good, Yakuza is too bloated, streamlined Yakuza is better Yakuza
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: thetylerrob on November 09, 2020, 08:29:28 PM
Yeah but the combat in 6 and Kiwami 2 sucks though. Thank god they went turn based.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: demi on November 09, 2020, 08:51:54 PM
New engine rules, ragdolls are hilarious and jump kicks are actually useful
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Pissy F Benny on November 11, 2020, 04:55:36 PM
Playing the early parts of koozer 7, idk if I like the new main character so far, he’s too much of a jabroni
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: demi on November 11, 2020, 05:08:34 PM
Finished Yakuza 6, just need to play Judgment and then it's finally time to play 7

My updated ranking sans Judgment

4 > 6 > K1 > 0 > K2 > Dead Souls > 5 > 3

Also Akiyama > Majima

Majima becomes too much of a bitch moping around. Akiyama stay slanging cock, with his BBW secretary Hana
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Pissy F Benny on November 11, 2020, 06:34:27 PM
Playing the early parts of koozer 7, idk if I like the new main character so far, he’s too much of a jabroni

Yo the opening of this is pretty long, I’m a little bit into chapter 2 have 2.5 hours on the game clock
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: bork on November 11, 2020, 08:49:36 PM
Playing the early parts of koozer 7, idk if I like the new main character so far, he’s too much of a jabroni

Isn't that the whole point?  He's kind of bottom-of-the-barrel, but a good-hearted guy who is going to hit rock bottom and then climb to the top- at least that's what I get from the trailer.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Pissy F Benny on November 12, 2020, 12:51:02 AM
Sure, I just miss whipping ass with the baddest man in Japan :tocry
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Pissy F Benny on November 12, 2020, 09:19:31 AM
Played a little bit more this morning and he's starting to grow on me.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: paprikastaude on November 12, 2020, 11:34:49 AM
cum buckets :exxy
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Coffee Dog on November 12, 2020, 02:25:14 PM
Super long intro to the new game. Takes like 4 hours before I feel they really let you loose. Fun setup so far though, new guy is a real moron but I like him well enough.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: BIONIC on November 12, 2020, 02:31:31 PM
Kiryu had a hard life  :tocry
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Sho Nuff on November 12, 2020, 07:32:01 PM
Is it OK to skip judgment before rolling onto 7
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: demi on November 12, 2020, 07:33:07 PM
Why not? Judgment has no relation to Yakuza besides being in Kamurocho
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: paprikastaude on November 12, 2020, 10:51:39 PM
Trash, they've now gone full Ubisoft with the quests. In 0 you could spoil side quest locations extremely late game - okay, whatever. In Kiwami 2 they almost forced the sidequest finder on to you, by making it the very first purchasable skill.

As I feared, now all icons are automatically visible with no option to turn it off.  :yuck :yuck :yuck :yuck Best part in older titles was to stumble upon side content while exploring, but now it's just another shitty Ubi/Sony checklist.

Everything else is good so far, except that chapter 4 is like an endless filler episode.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: demi on November 12, 2020, 11:30:29 PM
You're an idiot, quest finder is the biggest QoL improvement. Fuck aimlessly wandering around and not triggering something because it's in some pixel speck of the city

Biggest problem with Y6 after the previous titles did it just fine
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: paprikastaude on November 13, 2020, 12:01:32 AM
"Yo we better check out this town, find some info" *actually just hold the stick forward for two minutes like a zombie to reach the magic GPS icon*

What a braindead trend in gaming for absolute morons. Particularly in RPGs, where exploration is supposed to be a major aspect. :goldberg i.e. Square Enix can go fuck itself with this shit too.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Pissy F Benny on November 14, 2020, 03:45:36 PM
God kooza 7 is so good, I doubted the move to turn based but it’s proven me wrong :heh

I’m only on chapter 4 and it’s barely even opened up yet :rejoice

Square should take notes on how to make a turn based battle look good from this for their next final fantasy imo.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: paprikastaude on November 15, 2020, 07:17:10 AM
It's okay. I want jobs finally. And more night time.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: HardcoreRetro on November 15, 2020, 07:22:20 AM
I love that the diaper fetish people from Yakuza 2 are a summon in 7.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: HardcoreRetro on November 15, 2020, 07:59:24 AM
The dub karaoke deserves a thumbs up as well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2wS2PVDRfyo
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Pissy F Benny on November 15, 2020, 02:31:14 PM
I love that the diaper fetish people from Yakuza 2 are a summon in 7.

Just got these bros :rejoice
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Sho Nuff on November 18, 2020, 08:16:42 PM
I was totally burned out on 6 but god DAMN 7 rips, love having a new character. Almost wanna see how the English dub is now
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Mr Gilhaney on November 18, 2020, 08:19:08 PM
i want to buy it, but whenever i go and see all the different editions and dlc... it is just... off putting
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Pissy F Benny on November 18, 2020, 11:09:51 PM
Nancy-chan :uguu
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: paprikastaude on November 19, 2020, 07:59:08 AM
i want to buy it, but whenever i go and see all the different editions and dlc... it is just... off putting

 :confused just buy the game
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: paprikastaude on November 19, 2020, 08:24:08 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MTI7BUZ4rgc
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: thetylerrob on November 20, 2020, 01:52:39 AM
If you hate extended parts in JRPGs where you don't have a full party, play the store management minigame until the first checkpoint. You're welcome.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: bork on November 20, 2020, 07:57:54 AM
If you hate extended parts in JRPGs where you don't have a full party, play the store management minigame until the first checkpoint. You're welcome.

:confused

Are you saying that doing that will advance the story?
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: paprikastaude on November 20, 2020, 09:32:09 AM
The dungeon in chapter 6 was stupidly long.  :busta That boss fight though  :jawalrus
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Mr Gilhaney on November 20, 2020, 09:41:22 AM
i want to buy it, but whenever i go and see all the different editions and dlc... it is just... off putting

 :confused just buy the game

i probably should, but it really got that kind of effect on me with any games, when i see 5 different editions and dlc tiers.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Coffee Dog on November 20, 2020, 10:14:12 AM
i want to buy it, but whenever i go and see all the different editions and dlc... it is just... off putting

 :confused just buy the game

i probably should, but it really got that kind of effect on me with any games, when i see 5 different editions and dlc tiers.

The game is totally complete feeling without any DLC from what I played so far. It's just a couple Kiryu/Majima/etc costumes for the party and an additional two DLC jobs, but the game is definitely not hurting for jobs as is.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: paprikastaude on November 20, 2020, 10:42:20 AM
https://twitter.com/gematsucom/status/1329784881396772870
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: thetylerrob on November 20, 2020, 11:46:38 AM
If you hate extended parts in JRPGs where you don't have a full party, play the store management minigame until the first checkpoint. You're welcome.

:confused

Are you saying that doing that will advance the story?
It's how you unlock an optional party member and it significantly lowers the grind in chapter 8 since you also get a ton of money for upgrades and stuff.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: paprikastaude on November 20, 2020, 12:32:13 PM
That management game though. I was expecting to watch some chill numbers and substories coming together like in 0. Instead:


(https://i2.wp.com/gaxstudio.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/i-have-no-idea-what-im-doing-dog-feat-1-620x400.jpg?ssl=1)
(https://media4.giphy.com/media/l3fZLMbuCOqJ82gec/giphy.gif)

:anhuld :crazy :social
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: kingv on November 20, 2020, 05:42:39 PM
They really have a part where you have to earn 3 Million Yen? Dawg. I've been investing in that chicks upgrade shop and have like 500K Yen. Going to take some time.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Pissy F Benny on November 20, 2020, 05:47:35 PM
I’m not there yet (chapter 7) but this one feels far more stingy with xp and cash than the other yakuza games :tocry
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: kingv on November 20, 2020, 05:49:49 PM
I'm on chapter 13 or and have not yet really had to grind.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: paprikastaude on November 21, 2020, 02:55:14 PM
"I can't believe I called My Hero to wipe my ass" :dead
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Mr Gilhaney on November 22, 2020, 10:20:34 PM
alright so bought this fucking game and about 15 hours in.

i love it

Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Pissy F Benny on November 23, 2020, 11:10:37 AM
The Mr Masochist sub story

:rejoice :rejoice :rejoice
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: paprikastaude on November 23, 2020, 02:15:26 PM
I think I'm about to go Game Over in that economy minigame :rogan
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Sho Nuff on November 24, 2020, 08:04:05 PM
all i want to play is this FUCKING video game.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Mr Gilhaney on November 24, 2020, 09:08:19 PM
ok yeah, this management stuff. what the fuck am i doing mens
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Sho Nuff on November 24, 2020, 10:12:07 PM
My favorite part of this game is that Nanba looks 100% the same as my old grizzled BJJ teacher, and one of your party members is a 59-year-old man named Koichi, and I literally work with a 59-year-old man named Koichi
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Pissy F Benny on November 27, 2020, 06:41:31 PM
Chapter 12 is a bit of a slog but the payoff is worth it

:bow :bow :bow :bow2 :bow2 :bow2
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: paprikastaude on November 27, 2020, 07:01:58 PM
I think after like 2 or 3 hours and on rank 30 I finally understand the majority of the property minigame :science
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Pissy F Benny on November 27, 2020, 07:16:36 PM
Keep it lean, don’t take on shitty loans and make sure your staff are always happy, once I’d worked that out I breezed into the top 20 (not done it since)

I did that with 3 properties :trumps
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: thetylerrob on November 27, 2020, 07:17:55 PM
Another PSA gameplay tip, switching Ichiban to the foreman job unlocks a skill to break down walls and doors that are under construction. You don't even have to unlock the skill, it just unlocks immediately and then you can switch jobs back to whatever. I've found a few secret shops in the open world using the skill and it's how you knock down those walls in the randomly generating sewer dungeons. Also, the shops sell the keys you need to open golden safes.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: mormapope on November 27, 2020, 07:21:50 PM
Making sexy and profitable women that you train and look out after  :aah



Seeing the before and after picture of your hostess, seeing your choices making them look hot as fuck
 :lawd



The music
 :rejoice

https://youtu.be/q7gzFBnfRfo
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Pissy F Benny on November 27, 2020, 07:26:03 PM
The jobs system is probably my biggest pet peeve, other than changing sa-chan :expert to an idol early on it doesn’t seem worth fucking around with really, fuck having to grind a job up from scratch and losing a shit load of stats and skills :tocry
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: paprikastaude on November 27, 2020, 07:52:47 PM
Pretty happy with my party by chapter 11, except I wish I could change out Kasuga, because bodyguard is just shit in the long run and I don't wanna restart with another jab.  :goty
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Coffee Dog on November 28, 2020, 12:58:47 PM
Just beat it at around ~65 hours. Game was great!! Probably my 2nd or 3rd favorite of these I've played overall (some overly goofy plot beats bringing it down just a tad). Ichiban is awesome, and I enjoyed the combat more than I thought I would. The job system goes a long way. Wonderful atmosphere as always.

Good koozer, and can't wait for the next one.  :)
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: demi on November 28, 2020, 01:07:29 PM
Chapter 6 of Judgment

So far a pretty middling experience. Lots of CHASE THIS and TAIL THAT and the story is draaaagging right now. Combat is somehow worse than both Yakuza Dragon Engine.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: curly on November 28, 2020, 03:49:19 PM
Pretty happy with my party by chapter 11, except I wish I could change out Kasuga, because bodyguard is just shit in the long run and I don't wanna restart with another jab.  :goty

They level up really fast once you get later in the game plus you get skills and stat bonuses that stay even after you change again.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: BIONIC on November 29, 2020, 02:47:44 PM
I hit the 50 substories done in 3, with 80 total, and I like to at least do all the substories in these games even if I'm not going to platty (which I've only done on Kiwami 2), but I'm at the stage where you just have to keep wandering around hoping to trigger a new story and I'm not really sure I want to do that instead of just moving on to 4.

GameFAQs has really good kuzer guides for finding everything.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: demi on November 29, 2020, 03:54:12 PM
But wandering around aimlessly hoping to trigger a quest is a good thing to some people LUL

Speaking of dumbshit mechanics, Judgment has this stupid shit where enemies can "break" your health and you have to waste time and go heal it (kind of like how some RPGs have a mechanic where you die, you permanently lose HP until you go to a clinic of some sort)
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: paprikastaude on November 29, 2020, 04:12:40 PM
I think I'm about to go Game Over in that economy minigame :rogan

Yup, practically broke now :rogan No new funds from Nick(?) after the second boss was a death sentence. Whatever, I hope lv 3 friendship with the economy woman is good enough to keep her in my party, plus I got several million Yen out of it.

You could change your focus to the Mario Kart storyline, but that shit is pretty wack so far gameplaywise. :larry The developers of F-Zero GX made this...
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: BIONIC on November 29, 2020, 04:33:34 PM
The lack of substory and key locators are some real QOL stuff I miss in 3 and presumably 4-5 as well.

5 has really good sub story tracking on the map. 4 I think is identical to 3.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Mr Gilhaney on November 29, 2020, 06:01:35 PM
fuck me, the SJW's casting 'baseless accusations' on me caught me off guard  :lol
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Pissy F Benny on November 29, 2020, 06:51:23 PM
I marked out for the juggalo enemy type ngl :shh
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: headwalk on November 29, 2020, 07:08:43 PM
https://youtu.be/q7gzFBnfRfo

makes me nostalgic for the chinese buffet that used to do dirt cheap takeaway boxes just down the road from me (this and pan pipe disney themes)

being a respectable citizen i always respected the "you must be able to close the lid" limit, unlike most dudes who'd make a jenga tower out of mini spring rolls and chicken wings.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: thetylerrob on November 29, 2020, 07:47:20 PM
I think I'm about to go Game Over in that economy minigame :rogan

Yup, practically broke now :rogan No new funds from Nick(?) after the second boss was a death sentence. Whatever, I hope lv 3 friendship with the economy woman is good enough to keep her in my party, plus I got several million Yen out of it.

You could change your focus to the Mario Kart storyline, but that shit is pretty wack so far gameplaywise. :larry The developers of F-Zero GX made this...
If you're broke just take out a loan.  :trumps
Only invest in employees that have strong base stats. There are a ton of shitty employees that are pointless to have. Also make sure you have the max amount of businesses and upgrade them until their stats are in the blue before training employees.  It becomes a cakewalk once you start having a decent profit every day and once you've got it done you have a money printer for all the other stuff in the game.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: curly on November 29, 2020, 08:01:38 PM
Yeah I was in a similar state of thinking I had totally fucked the management minigame but when I sold off everything besides the property you start off with and just spent my money on improving that one until I started making a profit it became really easy.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Mr Gilhaney on November 30, 2020, 01:45:31 AM
I skimmed over a YouTube guide to understand the share holders meetings, which is what I kept fucking up. Actually making money through your business always seemed pretty easy
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on November 30, 2020, 12:13:46 PM
Simple mod to fix bug with English combat where you weren’t able to see if an enemy is weak against your attack.

https://steamcommunity.com/app/1235140/discussions/0/2988663148706092290/#c2972901184175627499
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Joe Molotov on November 30, 2020, 12:19:24 PM
If you're broke just take out a loan.  :trumps

Great advice for Yakuza and life. :rejoice
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: demi on December 01, 2020, 09:54:19 AM
Yakuza 7 $35 on Amazon & Best Buy

Got my copy

https://amzn.to/3mEsUVm
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Beezy on December 01, 2020, 04:20:29 PM
The Kazuma Kiryu games aren't directly related to Y7, right? I've only played the first Yakuza game so far.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Joe Molotov on December 01, 2020, 04:31:30 PM
The Kazuma Kiryu games aren't directly related to Y7, right? I've only played the first Yakuza game so far.

Right, it's different characters, different gangs, in a different town. There are supposed to be some connections though.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Tuckers Law on December 01, 2020, 04:33:32 PM
Yakuza 7 $35 on Amazon & Best Buy

Got my copy

https://amzn.to/3mEsUVm
I grabbed the steelbook from Best Buy, guess it’s time I start in on this series,  (I have Zero, Kiwami 1 & 2, 4, and now 7.)
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Pissy F Benny on December 01, 2020, 05:20:15 PM
The Kazuma Kiryu games aren't directly related to Y7, right? I've only played the first Yakuza game so far.

Right, it's different characters, different gangs, in a different town. There are supposed to be some connections though.

lol
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: demi on December 01, 2020, 06:40:44 PM
The Kazuma Kiryu games aren't directly related to Y7, right? I've only played the first Yakuza game so far.

I havent played this one yet but from what I've seen and read, it's pretty separate to be its own story. I'm sure the game will be littered with references to past games - either via story or side content.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Mr Gilhaney on December 01, 2020, 07:54:04 PM
Simple mod to fix bug with English combat where you weren’t able to see if an enemy is weak against your attack.

https://steamcommunity.com/app/1235140/discussions/0/2988663148706092290/#c2972901184175627499

wtf mens. i had no idea this was supposed to show up. devs pls
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Pissy F Benny on December 02, 2020, 04:39:25 AM
they must have patched it, it was showing up for me for the first time last night  :oreilly
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Tuckers Law on December 02, 2020, 07:31:57 AM
Any advice before I start Yakuza Zero?
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Pissy F Benny on December 02, 2020, 08:08:03 AM
its a pretty straightforward game from what i recall :yeshrug
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: BIONIC on December 02, 2020, 08:43:57 AM
Any advice before I start Yakuza Zero?

Do all substories and enjoy the ride  :aah
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Coffee Dog on December 02, 2020, 11:26:09 AM
Any advice before I start Yakuza Zero?

Don't equip the item called charismatic biography because it raises the encounter rate and the item description is kind of unclear about it doing so if I remember correctly. Other than that just jump in blind.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: kingv on December 02, 2020, 02:02:58 PM
they must have patched it, it was showing up for me for the first time last night  :oreilly

Does it just show weak when you hit them? Or can you see if they are weak before you hit attack? I’ve been getting the WEAK! Pop ups since launch
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Tuckers Law on December 02, 2020, 04:03:33 PM
I guess that’s good to know if I need to grind encounters, thanks!
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: demi on December 02, 2020, 04:35:50 PM
You wont need to grind encounters, all Yakuza games are easy and Yakuza 0 uses cash money to level up with, and there are many methods of getting cash in that game
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: bork on December 02, 2020, 11:22:35 PM
Simple mod to fix bug with English combat where you weren’t able to see if an enemy is weak against your attack.

https://steamcommunity.com/app/1235140/discussions/0/2988663148706092290/#c2972901184175627499

There's also this fix for some of the arcade games not working- can't believe Sega hasn't fixed this stuff yet.

https://steamcommunity.com/app/1235140/discussions/0/2988663148721822920/
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: demi on December 03, 2020, 01:04:41 AM
Finished Judgment tonight

Not sure where the praise for this one came from just like Yakuza 0

- story was blah
- combat sucks
- stupid ass gimmicks (Keihin Gang; HP loss)
+ minigames were cool (Paradise VR Dice, Kamuro of the Dead HOTD throwback)
+ the only game I beat Amon in (on Easy LUL) (bonus: his theme slaps (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DjWaZCAhbFs))
+ Pretty easy to get Platinum, I didnt bother though

I'd rank this one on the lower half of the scale
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Pissy F Benny on December 03, 2020, 02:13:20 AM
they must have patched it, it was showing up for me for the first time last night  :oreilly

Does it just show weak when you hit them? Or can you see if they are weak before you hit attack? I’ve been getting the WEAK! Pop ups since launch

It shows up before the attack now :ohhh
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Joe Molotov on December 03, 2020, 10:02:43 AM
I've spent like 7 or 8 hours in chapter 5, just leveling different jobs, exploring the map, and doing management and kart racing.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Pissy F Benny on December 03, 2020, 10:47:21 AM
I need to clear out the kart racing and its sub stories at some point, I'm guessing you can do that post game?
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Sho Nuff on December 03, 2020, 08:10:13 PM
Finished Judgment tonight

Not sure where the praise for this one came from just like Yakuza 0

- story was blah
- combat sucks
- stupid ass gimmicks (Keihin Gang; HP loss)
+ minigames were cool (Paradise VR Dice, Kamuro of the Dead HOTD throwback)
+ the only game I beat Amon in (on Easy LUL) (bonus: his theme slaps (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DjWaZCAhbFs))
+ Pretty easy to get Platinum, I didnt bother though

I'd rank this one on the lower half of the scale

Thx for the PRO REVIEW, I will avoid this one after wrapping 7
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: demi on December 03, 2020, 09:15:41 PM
Now that I have spent the year of our lord 2020 playing every Yakuza game up to 7 (started Y0 in February, finished Judgment in December), I present the DEFINITIVE tier list of Yakuza games

Feel free to reference this in the history books

4 > 6 > K1 > 0 > K2 > Judgment > Dead Souls > 5 > 3
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: thetylerrob on December 04, 2020, 03:37:25 AM
Proud of you even though your tier list is totally fucking wrong like holy shit.

K1 over 0?  :mindblown

6 in the #2 spot?  :cmonson

Dead Souls over 5???  :crazy
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: demi on December 04, 2020, 09:58:22 AM
K1 was more focused as a game

6's story was good, Dragon Engine is great, Spear Fishing rules, they finally cut most of the bullshit fat from the games (a huge problem in Y0)

5 just dragged more than the zombies in Dead Souls. Even the tedium of Dead Souls back and forth was better than Yakuza 5's Haruka shit and Saejima's adventures in Beartown
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Tuckers Law on December 04, 2020, 10:54:57 AM
I was not at all feeling the karaoke minigame at the start of 0, is there a lot of that required in this game?
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: paprikastaude on December 04, 2020, 10:56:17 AM
Only for sidequests.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Pissy F Benny on December 04, 2020, 11:06:37 AM
I still need to beat 2, i've owned it for 2 years and downloaded and deleted it about 5 times :trumps

How long will it take to mainline? Might as well do it between finishing off 7 this weekend and cyberpunk next week if its do-able in 15-20 hours.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: BIONIC on December 04, 2020, 11:12:30 AM
Mainlining a kuzer  :jeanluc
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Pissy F Benny on December 04, 2020, 11:13:11 AM
7 is the only one I've not mostly mainlined :rash
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: BIONIC on December 04, 2020, 01:59:41 PM
:hhh
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Joe Molotov on December 06, 2020, 01:19:55 PM
Current Party:

Ichiban = Foreman
Eri-chan = Idol
Sa-chan = Night Queen
Adachi-kun = Host
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Coffee Dog on December 06, 2020, 01:48:28 PM
I used Nanba as a musician for basically the entire game and did not regret it for a second.

Endless Loveee~
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Pissy F Benny on December 06, 2020, 03:01:51 PM
finished it last night, balls in your court cyberpunk this was probably my goty so far (or tony hawk) :rejoice :rejoice :rejoice

will do a new game plus at some point and fuck around with the job systems a bit more.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Joe Molotov on December 06, 2020, 05:01:30 PM
Yakuza is strictly worse than Final Fantasy 6 though, because it doesn’t let you suplex heavy machinery.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: paprikastaude on December 06, 2020, 05:04:05 PM
Actually I thought about how FF6 spiced up turnbased combat with tons of different input methods decades ago, because I don't know why Yakuza 7 only has square mash or triangle click.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Joe Molotov on December 06, 2020, 06:06:58 PM
Nevermind, this game is Final Fantasy XV now that I classed Joon-gi into a Bodyguard and then gave him the Sakura Storm katana you get for turning in 50 Tojo Clan crests. :lawd
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: paprikastaude on December 06, 2020, 09:02:16 PM
Are they shitting me with

spoiler (click to show/hide)
Majima
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 :brazilcry :shaq2 :titus
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Coffee Dog on December 06, 2020, 09:15:06 PM
Are they shitting me with

spoiler (click to show/hide)
Majima
[close]

 :brazilcry :shaq2 :titus

I did this fight while really underleveled, and poison shot saved my ass. It works on more bosses than I thought.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: kingv on December 06, 2020, 09:51:54 PM
Maxed out the Business minigame. It gets pretty easy after the first stock meeting or two. but $3 Million Yen each time you do another stock meeting after that!
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Joe Molotov on December 07, 2020, 10:06:10 AM
The Circus sidestories. :lol
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Joe Molotov on December 08, 2020, 01:15:38 AM
Maxed out the Business minigame. It gets pretty easy after the first stock meeting or two. but $3 Million Yen each time you do another stock meeting after that!

I did the management sim tonight. If you wait until you've done a lot of side stories, it gets really easy, because the side stories give you some OP employees to wreck face with. I never lost a board meeting.

spoiler (click to show/hide)
The Roomba and the Monkey :lawd
[close]
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: paprikastaude on December 08, 2020, 08:49:48 AM
https://twitter.com/gematsucom/status/1329784881396772870

Shock, they didn't look at the future of the series as they announced :doge

but tbf some time off really can't hurt the series for once.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: BIONIC on December 08, 2020, 08:57:24 AM
I just want Binary Domain 2, or anything that isn’t fucking Yakuza from this team. I want their talent on something fresh.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Sho Nuff on December 08, 2020, 07:57:27 PM
Binary Domain was the hottest shit
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: paprikastaude on December 08, 2020, 09:52:04 PM
It was okay. Really wish it didn't feature the drabbest version I've ever seen of NeoTokyo.

As for something different, I'd be fine with simply getting Ishin :stahp
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: naff on December 08, 2020, 10:13:10 PM
i also loved Binary Domain, but i played it a long time ago
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Mr Gilhaney on December 08, 2020, 10:14:27 PM
Chapter 11. I am not #makingit before cybercunny comes out. rip yakuza, i liked you
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: naff on December 08, 2020, 10:15:31 PM
apparently binary domain only sold 20k copies in NA the year it came out  :o  :'(
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Mr Gilhaney on December 08, 2020, 10:16:06 PM
the only draw of the game was big bo
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: BIONIC on December 09, 2020, 01:07:28 AM
More like Big Bro  :tocry
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Joe Molotov on December 09, 2020, 09:37:03 AM
Just finished Chapter 12. :rejoice

I think I've done all the side stuff up to this point except for finishing Dragon Kart and getting to Executive Hero in Part-Time Hero. Fantastic game.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Pissy F Benny on December 09, 2020, 09:58:57 AM
Chapter 12 once you get past the grind is some god tier shit :bow :bow :bow :bow2 :bow2 :bow2
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Joe Molotov on December 09, 2020, 10:20:00 AM
I already had more than ¥3 Million on hand, so at least that part wasn't a problem. :success
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Pissy F Benny on December 09, 2020, 11:08:07 AM
To be fair you get a watch you can sell for 1.5 mil at the end of chapter 11, which I didn’t realise til it was too late. I was at a decent enough level in the management mini game that it didn’t take too long to get the 3 mil :lol

Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: thetylerrob on December 09, 2020, 11:37:39 AM
I want to get all the steam achievies for some reason but damn the final bonus dungeon requires everyone to be level 99 and the grind is killing me. I'm just grinding xp while working at this point.

This game turned out really great though, best koozer in awhile.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Joe Molotov on December 09, 2020, 11:41:45 AM
If nothing else was coming out this week, I'd probably try to grind out all the achievements, but well...you know. :lol
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: BIONIC on December 09, 2020, 11:54:17 AM
If nothing else was coming out this week, I'd probably try to grind out all the achievements, but well...you know. :lol

You’re a transphobe?  :wag
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Sho Nuff on December 09, 2020, 08:57:28 PM
I was worried about the cash too, but I found the rest of the cats and discovered I had that 1M watch. NP on my way
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: kingv on December 10, 2020, 09:11:28 AM
Got to the final chapter last night. Pretty sure I’m gonna have to grind a bit to get the final boss down. Having to grind is the only negative thing in the game. The difficult spike at the the one boss people weee talking about earlier is really big.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Joe Molotov on December 10, 2020, 09:41:16 AM
Mr. Masochist is great for boss fights. That ass at the end of Chapter 14 that counters every attack can get wrekt.

And you know what's great for non-boss fights?

spoiler (click to show/hide)
Essence of Orbital Laser.  8)
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Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: paprikastaude on December 10, 2020, 03:20:53 PM
Got to the final chapter last night. Pretty sure I’m gonna have to grind a bit to get the final boss down. Having to grind is the only negative thing in the game. The difficult spike at the the one boss people weee talking about earlier is really big.

Usually the only 'git gut' enemies in prior Yakuza games were like the first or second boss, not this :cat
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Sho Nuff on December 10, 2020, 08:19:18 PM
I just finished all of the battle arena but i'm getting slaughtered by

spoiler (click to show/hide)
Maejima and Saejima
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in chapter 12.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: demi on December 10, 2020, 09:28:56 PM
Yakuza just announced for GamePass!

3 4 5 6

https://twitter.com/SEGA/status/1337222900143841282
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Bebpo on December 10, 2020, 09:34:12 PM
Hyped for 6 since it hasn’t gotten a 60fps remaster.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: demi on December 10, 2020, 09:36:48 PM
Soon you can play two of the best Yakuza, and 2 of the worst Yakuza
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Joe Molotov on December 11, 2020, 08:44:05 PM
Finished Y7 this afternoon after 60 hours.

The twists and turns. :popcorn

The manly tears. :tocry

The ridiculous special moves.  :rejoice

10/10
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Supermanisdead on December 11, 2020, 11:20:31 PM
Wow, all of them on gamepass. I will hold off on getting 7 I guess, until I slowly play through 0-6
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: demi on December 20, 2020, 05:39:21 PM
this game is easy top 3 yakuza.

the lack of Akiyama drags it down a LOT

so unfortunately Yakuza 4 is still #1
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: demi on December 20, 2020, 05:52:21 PM
also hearing the LEGENDS in english is so off putting. lmao
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: kingv on December 21, 2020, 05:03:48 AM
also hearing the LEGENDS in english is so off putting. lmao

Those were the only characters I felt like it didn’t work too

spoiler (click to show/hide)
especially kiryu. Like that voice actor just was not the dude. Though I looked it up and it’s the guy that did his voice in the English dub of the original... which was supposedly really bad, right?
[close]
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: demi on December 22, 2020, 11:20:55 PM
1000'd Yakuza

The grind for the True Millenium Tower wasn't even that bad imo. Beat Amon first try
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: kingv on December 23, 2020, 12:32:47 AM
I don’t even know what the true millennium tower is. Is it post game?

My ass is level 70, is that high enough to basically get everything done?
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: demi on December 23, 2020, 01:26:12 AM
Yes it's the super ultimate final dungeon, basically requires Level 99

Level 70 is more than enough to beat the game + post-game dungeon. But you will get shit on in super final dungeon.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: paprikastaude on December 23, 2020, 11:12:55 AM
Can't even finish the second stage of Kamurocho dungeon without Kasuga being a hammer guy? :rogan

Whatever, then I'll leave this final grind and go to the final dungeon. Honestly, the last couple of chapters really started to burn me out on the battle system, it's always the same once you fixate your party. :snore But not in a bearable way like prior entries. Also they should've written sidestories for all the characters instead of only Kasuga (outside the bar). Those street dialogues don't cut it.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: demi on December 23, 2020, 11:51:41 AM
Why do you need to make Kasuga a Foreman? Just leave him as Hero and be done with it.

You only need Foreman for the ability to break walls, and you don't need to be a Foreman to use it, just switch once to it and switch back
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: paprikastaude on December 23, 2020, 12:22:47 PM
ok. I read about the foreman breaking walls and thought it meant dungeon barriers.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: demi on December 23, 2020, 12:45:17 PM
It's the same thing, you need the Foreman ability for that. Just swap Ichiban to Foreman, then swap back, you keep the ability. I don't recall needing the ability at all in the sewers, it just leads to a sidepath most of the time.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: demi on December 24, 2020, 02:21:54 PM
Also huge shout out to Sawashiro, his music was a banger. Entire OSt was amazing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eL_ONyB3eCA
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: paprikastaude on December 24, 2020, 05:57:24 PM
shoot whoever designed that second to last boss in the fucking knee. I'm not chipping that sponge's life away for another excessively boring 20 minutes just to get one shotted right before the end.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: demi on December 24, 2020, 06:37:58 PM
Peerless Resolve
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Pissy F Benny on December 24, 2020, 07:14:12 PM
Poison him too :trumps
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: demi on February 01, 2021, 06:17:45 PM
Judgment coming to PS5 + Xbox (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D1WYt94yttM)
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: bork on February 01, 2021, 07:36:06 PM
Judgment is coming to Stadia too.  Over Steam!
:dead

https://www.gematsu.com/2021/02/judgment-coming-to-ps5-xbox-series-and-stadia-on-april-23

The trailer for the Japanese version lists the price at only 1,980 yen.  The English version is $40.   :-\

Edit:
https://twitter.com/SMTNetwork/status/1356381484354043908
:thinking
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Bebpo on February 01, 2021, 09:15:53 PM
Probably will just double dip for the PS5 version if the PC version isn't out by the time I want to play it.


In other Yakuza news, trying out Yakuza 4 remastered on PC (already had the PS4 re-release for 3/4/5) got me back interested in my "can handle one Yakuza game per year" catch up mood. So might start playing Y4 finally. Played through the opening with the first guy.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Bebpo on February 12, 2021, 10:44:03 PM
You know, I was wondering why the hell Sega hasn't brought out the two Japanese period piece Yakuza games Kenzan and Isshin.
At the time they didn't bring them over because Yakuza barely was selling in the west.

But now from what I gather the series does pretty well in the west.
And Ghost of Tsushima just sold a ridiculous amount following Sekiro selling a ton.

And Sega has no issue re-releasing PS3/PS4 Yakuza port-ups as remastered versions.

And they're sitting on two completely never released games (that are actually pretty great) that would easily sell beyond the cost of localization/porting up. Plus they can sell them on PC now.

I wonder if after doing Yakuza 6/Judgment PC they'll do a Kenzan/Isshin remaster double pack and finally bring it over to the west.

If not, they're just fucking dumb. :dead
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: chronovore on February 13, 2021, 12:41:01 AM
Sega regularly snatches defeat from the jaws of victory.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: thetylerrob on February 13, 2021, 01:02:35 AM
I do remember hearing that Nagoshi was really impressed by GoT so maybe they'll try? Maybe Microsoft could bankroll it or something.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: porkbun on February 15, 2021, 09:35:36 AM
I got a new hard drive for my PS4 so I'm redownloading my digital games and lo and behold there's Yakuza 0.  I must have gotten it during a PS sale and forgot about it.  I was trying to fight like in Y6 and getting my ass kicked pretty bad, especially by the big wrestler who takes all your cash.  But it's nice to have a "new" Yakuza game to play, especially since I have the day off and it's way too cold out to do anything.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: BisMarckie on February 19, 2021, 05:26:56 AM
I tried out Yakuza 0 and got immediately hooked. Even learned how to play Mahjong :lol

Can't wait to get into Kiwami later today
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: paprikastaude on February 19, 2021, 01:14:37 PM
It's quite a stepdown, because it's still the PS2 og at heart, but after Kiwami 1 it gets better again.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Sho Nuff on February 21, 2021, 02:42:11 AM
Seriously under leveled again at chapter 14 in Like a Dragon, you know who is one shotting my party members
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: demi on February 21, 2021, 03:51:22 AM
Just grind the Kamurocho sewers, EZ xp with the Vagabonds
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: BisMarckie on March 11, 2021, 06:37:04 AM
I am playing Yakuza 3 right now and I never hated a combat system more. I know it‘s a 15 year old game, but being stun-locked all the time makes me want to throw things at my TV.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: paprikastaude on March 11, 2021, 06:53:16 AM
Sadly Y5 is where they laid the groundwork for the gameplay in Y0 onward.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: BIONIC on March 13, 2021, 12:36:00 PM
Quick Qs for anyone who beat Y7, please make your answer as spoiler-free as possible.

Chapter 10 spoilers:

spoiler (click to show/hide)
So I just got Joon-gi in my party, and I’m hesitant on how to balance the main story and the substories.

1. I know that you leave Yokohama at some point. Does the game give you the choice of when to leave so you can cleanup any loose substories and mini games? Or does it force you to leave without asking?

2. Nanba hasn’t joined back yet, does he still get XP? Or should I wait until he gets back to do non-story stuff so he doesn’t get too left behind?
[close]

The main story is feeling pretty urgent right now, so it would feel off to do the weird side stuff during that, though I’ll do it if I have to.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Pissy F Benny on March 13, 2021, 12:40:12 PM
Quick Qs for anyone who beat Y7, please make your answer as spoiler-free as possible.

Chapter 10 spoilers:

spoiler (click to show/hide)
So I just got Joon-gi in my party, and I’m hesitant on how to balance the main story and the substories.

1. I know that you leave Yokohama at some point. Does the game give you the choice of when to leave so you can cleanup any loose substories and mini games? Or does it force you to leave without asking?

2. Nanba hasn’t joined back yet, does he still get XP? Or should I wait until he gets back to do non-story stuff so he doesn’t get too left behind?
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The main story is feeling pretty urgent right now, so it would feel off to do the weird side stuff during that, though I’ll do it if I have to.

spoiler (click to show/hide)
you can go back and forth between yokohama and *redacted* in taxis all you want and namba comes back levelled up
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Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: BIONIC on March 13, 2021, 01:35:19 PM
Gotcha. Thanks, friendo.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: paprikastaude on March 13, 2021, 05:23:18 PM
Actually, Kiwami has the worst bosses, even with all the upgrades :thinking 3 has like one overly hard one in the beginning, like all the other games iirc.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: BIONIC on March 13, 2021, 06:26:12 PM
If you’re playing on Normal and doing all the substories so you’re not underleveled, then there’s literally nothing hard about these games (not counting shitty mini games) except for the Amon fights. And they’re more bullshit than any real difficulty anyways, so I generally never bother with them. I only ever beat him in Kiwami 2 because you can just chug on items and troll him with extreme heat since you can’t die during it.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: demi on March 13, 2021, 06:27:35 PM
I told you Y3 is dogshit
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Beezy on March 19, 2021, 08:36:11 PM
Started playing Yakuza Kiwami again after not touching it since December and I was wondering are the sidequests in these games generally good? I haven't been seeking them out. And is anything missable? Last thing I did was rescue the kid from Majima at the batting cages.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Bebpo on March 19, 2021, 08:43:47 PM
Started playing Yakuza Kiwami again after not touching it since December and I was wondering are the sidequests in these games generally good? I haven't been seeking them out. And is anything missable? Last thing I did was rescue the kid from Majima at the batting cages.

The sidequests are great. Don't remember if Y1 had many sidequests.

I think some stuff is generally missable.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: thetylerrob on March 19, 2021, 10:23:36 PM
Not sure how much they added to Kiwami, but Yakuza 1 has the weakest side quests of the series. They're the best part of the other games.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Beezy on March 19, 2021, 10:35:41 PM
Good to know. I'll mostly stick to the story missions for this game then, but do any sidequests I happen to come across.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: porkbun on April 15, 2021, 01:42:00 PM
FYI the PS Store have Kiwami for $5 and Kiwami 2 for $10 for their spring sale.

I already played through Kiwami when it was a PS+ freebie, but I got Kiwami 2.  At the rate I'm getting through 0, I'll get to K2 around Christmastime.  Any time I get to play with it, I waste with Majima playing Outrun, getting drunk on high-end whiskey and playing pool and darts, and looking for random scrubs to beat on with my bat, which might be my favorite fighting style in the series.

I did get a trophy for watching one of the AV girl videos. 

 :exxy

Nice touch they had with the box of kleenex by the TV.  Makes me wonder what people in Kamarucho are doing with all those packages of pocket tissues they're handing out on every block.

 :judge
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: demi on May 06, 2021, 03:45:03 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/4VcGyMR.png)
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Pissy F Benny on May 06, 2021, 05:05:19 PM
is judgement any good?
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: archnemesis on May 07, 2021, 02:02:03 AM
is judgement any good?
I haven't played it myself, but it's supposed to be great.

That goes for all of the Yakuza games. Even the zombie spinoff was good.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: demi on May 07, 2021, 12:39:02 PM
Lost Judgment releases worldwide September 24, Xbox+Playstation

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d62uNxrFttM

Also going forward Yakuza will remain turn based, and Judgment will be action based

https://www.ign.com/articles/the-yakuza-series-will-be-a-turn-based-rpg-series-fully-going-forward
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Bebpo on May 07, 2021, 02:45:30 PM
I really need to play Judgment.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Mr Gilhaney on May 07, 2021, 02:55:23 PM
Yes lads

https://twitter.com/Nibellion/status/1390673759904968704
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Joe Molotov on May 07, 2021, 03:32:19 PM
Can't wait for Yak8za :rejoice
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: BIONIC on May 20, 2021, 06:01:30 PM
So cool he won’t give single moms a loan because they don’t wanna whore themselves out.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Rahxephon91 on May 20, 2021, 06:38:40 PM
Guess I’ll be skipping Yakuza games from here on out. Yakuza 7 just looks like nothing I like about these games and instead doubling down on the stupid shit. Still need to finish the first Judgement which feels slow, but good otherwise.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: chronovore on May 20, 2021, 07:12:29 PM
Can't wait for 8kuza :rejoice

FTFY

Its sequel will be Ya9za, since the etymology of the term is 8-9-3, a famously bad hand in a gambling game, Oichokabu.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yakuza
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Pissy F Benny on May 21, 2021, 02:39:30 PM
Guess I’ll be skipping Yakuza games from here on out. Yakuza 7 just looks like nothing I like about these games and instead doubling down on the stupid shit. Still need to finish the first Judgement which feels slow, but good otherwise.

7 may be the best game in the series :trumps

I wasn't overly keen on the direction it took at first glance but it was genuinely my game of the year for 2020
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: paprikastaude on June 16, 2021, 02:08:38 PM
https://twitter.com/RGGStudio/status/1405222279110402051
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Bebpo on June 16, 2021, 02:14:30 PM
That seems really bad tbh. Worldwide sales, PS5 re-release, bargain discounts (I picked up PS5 version for $30 and so did two other people I know, one friend got it on PS4 for $20) and...1 million copies only?

I remember when the mainline Yakuza games would sell like 500k at launch in Japan.


But this is why the series is so efficient at re-use and yearly releases. Keep the budgets down, keep pumping the games out and get by on niche sales.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: paprikastaude on June 16, 2021, 11:09:11 PM
I remember when the mainline Yakuza games would sell like 500k at launch in Japan.

That time's long over. Zero and 6 were already down to something like 200k in 2015/16. While at that time the games weren't localized or sold 80k in the west. So they are definitely far better off now. Still, I don't know clinging to yearly Kuzer as one of their main sources of income is really future proof for Sega. They kind of countered the quickly decreasing interest in Japan with a new meme fanbase in the West, but I don't think that can really last with more yearly releases that all look alike and will certainly lose interest over here too.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Supermanisdead on June 18, 2021, 09:17:03 AM
Like a dragon is really fun so far. I made it to chapter 3
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Bebpo on June 21, 2021, 02:07:50 AM
Judgment's story is pretty exciting so far. Feels dark compared to the Yakuza games I've played. Also Tak gets the shit beat out of him in ways I can't imagine happening to Kiryu.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: demi on June 21, 2021, 11:41:32 AM
He also tails everyone every 5 minutes
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Bebpo on June 21, 2021, 04:16:44 PM
He also tails everyone every 5 minutes

I can't hear you over the sound of Tak skateboard jump kicking a guy in a moving car's face

(https://i.imgur.com/Da5Ktgmh.jpg)
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: demi on June 21, 2021, 08:07:58 PM
Is that in the tiger style? The crane style? The... oh who cares they both suck shit anyway
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Bebpo on June 21, 2021, 08:23:45 PM
Ok, I'll give you that. Both stances suck and the bosses in infinite red wound mode is bullshit and forces you to just item spam invincibility through the fights.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Supermanisdead on June 22, 2021, 04:25:43 AM
Why are the cutscenes in like a dragon so long. Oh my god I get it! It’s so weird to see teen jrpg writing from middle aged dudes.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Lonewulfeus on June 22, 2021, 11:51:56 PM
Don’t take it so seriously, I’m up to chapter 4 in Like a Dragon and it’s been a pretty funny game so far.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Lonewulfeus on June 25, 2021, 07:05:36 PM
Like a Dragon is by far the best game I’ve played so far this year.  Even the side quests are fantastic and memorable.  The random bits of dialogue you can trigger with your party members definitely reminds me of some of the Tales games I’ve played but I actually give a shit about what these characters are talking about as opposed to Tales.  I made it to Chapter 10 today and just can’t put it down.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: The Sceneman on June 26, 2021, 08:46:56 PM
Yeah Im only on Chapter 4 but the sidequests so far have been hysterical. The "Poundmates" one fucking ruined me. "Gary Buster Holmes" wtf :rofl
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Lonewulfeus on July 01, 2021, 05:50:32 PM
Finished the story mode for Like a Dragon.  Loved every minute of the story and can’t wait to see what kind of shenanigans the gang gets up to next.  End game left a bit to be desired though.  Slight spoilers ahead.

spoiler (click to show/hide)
The end game dungeon as a beefed up version of the final chapter dungeon was pretty lame, I don’t remember the loot specifically but I have a feeling it was the same through all three versions, at least I know it was for the Final and True versions.  Yea they add Amon to the end game versions but otherwise the enemies just had bigger numbers.

Doesn’t hurt my overall experience enough to outweigh just how great the story mode was though.
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I’ll prolly finish the complete achievement list tonight or tomorrow.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Bebpo on July 09, 2021, 01:46:24 AM
Judgment - ALERT ALERT KEIHIN GANG BOSSES ON MAP  :-\


That said, otherwise everything in this game is so good. Been doing all these shop stories and they are GREAT and really nice addition to Kamurocho. The side cases are pretty good & funny too. Between that stuff and the mini-games everywhere and the main story being great this is a real meaty package. Tons to do and it's all pretty enjoyable.

It's also why I can't play more than one of these games per year or two. It's just too much. They're so big.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Bebpo on July 09, 2021, 01:53:42 AM
Also, since y'all played more of these games than me, especially the more recent ones:

At what point in the series did Nagoshi start making the boss fights miserable awful broken shit with bosses raging out and being unstunlockable for huge amounts of time while fucking you up non-stop?

Because I played Y1-3 and the two samurai ones and the bosses weren't fucking awful unfun like Judgment. And I've heard for years that Yakuza bosses are shit, so at some point it seems like the bosses got stupid. They were already cheap in Y1-3/Samurai but they weren't broken rage mode life bars bullshit like this.

I basically just have to spam items in Judgment on bosses and keep doing heat moves non-stop because nothing else works. And mortal wounds is a terrible system.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Bebpo on August 10, 2021, 03:31:54 AM
I’m at ch.8 of 12 in Judgment and honestly I feel like this has a better main story than any of the other Yakuza games I’ve played. The whole Phoenix Wright Detective angle is a lot of fun and the story is really interesting and engaging.

I feel like Judgment 2 won’t have as good of a main plot since it feels like a lightning in the bottle thing of Nagoshi having a really good story idea for the first one. The Yakuza games have good exciting stories but maybe I’m just over Yakuza drama and this feels different enough that it’s fresh.

I really enjoy all procedural stuff like law office talks. It’s nice playing a small family group that aren’t a bunch of Yakuza.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: HardcoreRetro on August 14, 2021, 03:45:38 AM
Holy shit, this karaoke bit got even better with the translated lyrics.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=434rBX_G85o

English Lyrics:
Will it never change?
REM sleep so deep it’s like death
Come on, it’s about time to get up
The sun’s trying to shine, despite the clouds and curtains
“Tomorrow’s a long awaited holiday, let’s go swimming”
I guess you’re dreaming about the sea around now
Never mind age, have fun
We could charter a boat
and stare into the sunset
The ultimate Weekend Day
If we polish today it will shine like a Great Diamond
so Please, Get up my baby!
(Come on, please get up)
(Please! Please wake up)
(You’re never going to wake up)
(I guess I’ll go to sleep too … )


I thought it was supposed to be a cute vacation song.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Bebpo on August 15, 2021, 04:52:03 AM
Ch.10 now in Judgment and most of the side content done. Game is so good.

It has its fair share of legit issues like KEIHIN GANG that detract from it, but man this is a good game and top-tier Yakuza series title. It's rekindling my love for these meaty Kamurocho games.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: paprikastaude on August 18, 2021, 10:56:09 AM
https://twitter.com/RGGStudio/status/1427978594387697670
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Bebpo on August 19, 2021, 02:31:07 AM
Final chapter in Judgment. The main story, which is the best part of the game, falls pretty hard around 70% through. It's a great murder mystery, but they solve the mystery like 65-75% into the story and then the last 25% is just a bunch of chapters of Yagami doing stupid things and getting nowhere again and again and again which isn't a lot of fun and feels like getting nowhere time-wasters. The sidequests/friend quests are still great and in the last 25% they've been the more fun part. Almost done with those as well.

Hopefully the finale stuff will be good crazy badass Yakuza games stuff to end it on a strong note.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: demi on August 19, 2021, 02:38:48 AM
Yeah… About that
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Bebpo on August 20, 2021, 04:32:23 AM
At the point of no return and have 3 friends left and they're all pretty annoying (Mahjong, full batting clear, bunch of art pieces grind from casinos) and need them for the final 2 side cases. While I like the side cases and friend events, not sure I wanna spend the time but will give it a shot before I finish the story. I don't think I've ever bothered doing close to 100% in a Yakuza game before, but I'm so close here I kind of want to try.

Also it's weird how the drone races are totally separate and there's nothing tied to them. There's a lot of races...haven't really bothered after doing the first championship once to check it out.

Hoping Yagami gets disbarred in the ending for all the illegal shit he's done and has somehow not lost his attorney license.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: tiesto on August 21, 2021, 03:30:18 PM
Just fought the big battle at the end of Ch 12 of Y7... that music!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VV1lOo-T15I

 :lawd :lawd :lawd
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Bebpo on August 21, 2021, 05:17:11 PM
So Judgment is glitched and I can't 100% the friends/side cases. I'm down to just Mahjong which apparently I can cheat if I grind 10,000 SP for an item and this runner guy who doesn't show up unless I've run from the cops who don't appear unless a normal battle takes like 5-7 mins+ but after hours of playing today I can't get a sidekick guy to not show up in a normal battle and even if I just block or run in circles the sidekick, even on hard difficulty, will clear all the normal battle enemies before the cops every.single.time. So this is just impossible.

Maybe if I beat the game and then put it on the higher difficulty mode it'll happen and I can get access to the two final lvl.50 city rep side cases. Idk, gonna beat that mahjong and then clear the story I guess at this point. This thing is super annoying. Why this cops showing up thing even exists when normal battles take like 10-30 seconds max is so stupid.

*edit* Got it. 50/50 friends. Gonna clear up the last few side cases and then finish the game. In terms of completion I'm missing the skills from the dice course but don't want to grind the free play passes from the 3 casinos. I've had the worst luck save scumming blackjack the whole game. Ended up just buying chips because I couldn't fucking win a few times in a row even with save/reloads.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Bebpo on August 21, 2021, 11:03:05 PM
Spent 3 hours of retries trying to cheese out Shin Amon and barely did it. I need to stop going for 100% in these games. That was a super bullshit fight.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Bebpo on August 22, 2021, 02:52:53 AM
Finished Judgment, yeah that finale was just nonsense tune out like FFXII or the many other game/movie/book stories that just lose the plot in the end.

They really couldn’t decide whether they wanted a satisfying courtroom finale without the punching or a punch punch shoot shoot over the top Yakuza finale and it just kinda zig-zags between both unsatisfyingly. Same with the main antagonist. When you can’t just punch some of these bad people it struggled figuring out who the actual antagonist is and kept jumping around between a few people instead of having a strong antagonist.

Lots of other stupid stuff like the courtroom stuff is so unrealistically nonsense, the mole has a million chances to shoot Yagami and never does, etc…

The first 70% is one of the stronger Yakuza stories as a detective murder mystery procedural and Yagami is pretty solid and decently smart. But the last 30% is a real mess and worse than pretty much every Yakuza game I’ve played. Just very weak.

That being said it’s a fun & good game. It has legit flaws like the Keihin Gang and the whole dual stance & ex mode system isn’t that great of a combat system, but lots to do in the city, fun sidequests, fun characters, good plot for most of it, nice visuals, and I actually enjoy tailing surprisingly.

It’s a good game and I’m down for another Yagami adventure. Hopefully with better combat, no Keihin Gang thing and maybe next time they’ll figure out the identity struggle between courtroom stuff and punch punch stuff and make it work. Might be better to just ditch the court legal procedural stuff and just make it a punch punch Yakuza story as a punch punch detective.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Bebpo on August 22, 2021, 03:19:57 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/fUiy6x2h.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/ifSbwWFh.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/XofItDvh.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/8ctDUTph.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/BME2N69h.jpg)

Lotta good times for sure in the 45 hours I put in. Although it gets a negative point for being the first Yakuza game I've ever played where if you grab a grunt near a ledge you can't instant kill them by throwing them over the ledge wtf.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: paprikastaude on August 30, 2021, 01:04:02 PM
https://twitter.com/6d6f636869/status/1432215828112437249
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: demi on September 16, 2021, 11:39:07 AM
Lost Judgment out next week, time to tail people again in the name of justice
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: Bebpo on September 17, 2021, 02:28:04 AM
I'm reading the outrage that Lost Judgment treats Sexual Assault stuff absolutely terribly.

Coming from Judgment 1, yeah.

Like this isn't even a reviewers being overly critical iffy thing. The RGG team is really, really dated on dealing with anything with women holy crap. There were parts in Judgment 1 that was like phew...how is this a 2018 game?

The Yakuza/Judgment series is so tied up in this overly masculine BADASS MEN culture and BOOBS BOOBS BOOBS it's ...pretty embarrassing at this point. They really need to work on this aspect ASAP, even if it means Nagoshi backs off a little from full creative control.

I mean his "Kiryu can't hit women so he can't be in Tekken or any fighting game" is  ::)
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: bork on October 08, 2021, 10:07:44 AM
Ryu Ga Gotoku Studio head Toshihiro Nagoshi and Daisuke Sato left Sega. 

Like A Dragon direct sequel also announced.
Title: Re: Yakuza thread of there's a game every couple of months
Post by: bork on September 14, 2022, 08:11:04 AM
https://youtu.be/4wVSyxsUQHU

https://youtu.be/Fxkn-dcy01k

https://youtu.be/AJhqN7R_oAg
Title: Re: Yakuza/Like A Dragon/Judgement Thread Of There's A New Game Couple Of Months
Post by: paprikastaude on September 14, 2022, 09:45:08 AM
 :whatisthis
Title: Re: Yakuza/Like A Dragon/Judgement Thread Of There's A New Game Couple Of Months
Post by: Pissy F Benny on September 14, 2022, 10:36:39 AM
Didn't the main guy leave a year or so ago, what if they're shit :anhuld
Title: Re: Yakuza/Like A Dragon/Judgement Thread Of There's A New Game Couple Of Months
Post by: thetylerrob on September 14, 2022, 10:44:39 AM
I'm glad I waited to play the Judgement games. Steam Deck babyyyyyyyyy

Kpop hair Kiryu is such a weird thing to tease and not elaborate on lol
Title: Re: Yakuza/Like A Dragon/Judgement Thread Of There's A New Game Couple Of Months
Post by: Bebpo on September 14, 2022, 11:04:11 AM
Kiryu milking  :-\

I'm still way behind on the series, but seems like a lack of confidence if after one game with Ichi they're already backtracking.


I think what they should've done if they wanted to bring Kiryu back is do a 3rd period piece one that could be starring him.
Title: Re: Yakuza/Like A Dragon/Judgement Thread Of There's A New Game Couple Of Months
Post by: Pissy F Benny on September 14, 2022, 11:06:31 AM
spoiler (click to show/hide)
kiryu is in like a dragon :shh
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Title: Re: Yakuza/Like A Dragon/Judgement Thread Of There's A New Game Couple Of Months
Post by: bork on September 14, 2022, 11:20:25 AM
Judgement and Lost Judgement are now out on Steam!

$39.99 and $59.99. 
Title: Re: Yakuza/Like A Dragon/Judgement Thread Of There's A New Game Couple Of Months
Post by: BIONIC on September 14, 2022, 02:10:58 PM
Still waiting for LJ edition with the DLC to hit 60% off before getting it. They shit these games out way too quickly with copious asset reuse to reward bad DLC practices. Would’ve gotten it at launch otherwise.

All the new stuff looks pretty hype  :hyper
Title: Re: Yakuza/Like A Dragon/Judgement Thread Of There's A New Game Couple Of Months
Post by: Joe Molotov on September 14, 2022, 03:43:15 PM
Kinda crazy that they're launching LJ at $60 when the PS4/Xbox versions were already 50% off a month after release.
Title: Re: Yakuza/Like A Dragon/Judgement Thread Of There's A New Game Couple Of Months
Post by: bork on September 14, 2022, 04:24:33 PM
Yup; will wait for a sale before grabbing them.
Title: Re: Yakuza/Like A Dragon/Judgement Thread Of There's A New Game Couple Of Months
Post by: Polident Hive on September 14, 2022, 06:05:40 PM
It’s surprising they haven’t done another prequel. Don’t know the numbers but Yakuza 0 seemed like the big breakout game in the west. Got a five year window until Kiryu’s arrested.
Title: Re: Yakuza/Like A Dragon/Judgement Thread Of There's A New Game Couple Of Months
Post by: BIONIC on September 14, 2022, 08:22:25 PM
Still waiting for LJ edition with the DLC to hit 60% off before getting it. They shit these games out way too quickly with copious asset reuse to reward bad DLC practices. Would’ve gotten it at launch otherwise.

All the new stuff looks pretty hype  :hyper

As soon as I say that it’s 55% off lol. Fuck it. Bought.