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Title: SE Signs Deal That Will Waste Millions of Man Hours on Western Trash (SExMarvel)
Post by: 213372bu on January 26, 2017, 01:46:38 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rq_V6WHSmQs&feature=youtu.be
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Marvel Entertainment and Square Enix announced today a multi-year, multi-game partnership, leading with the reveal of The Avengers project. This newly established partnership pairs the creative minds at Marvel and Square Enix for one of the most powerful alliances in interactive entertainment.

 It's been a minute since we got superhero games that aren't fighting or mobile. Can't wait to see something come from this.
Title: Re: SE Signs Deal That Will Waste Millions of Man Hours on Western Trash (SExMarvel)
Post by: Rahxephon91 on January 26, 2017, 07:46:00 PM
Shit Nomura designed characters!
Title: Re: SE Signs Deal That Will Waste Millions of Man Hours on Western Trash (SExMarvel)
Post by: Take My Breh Away on January 26, 2017, 07:49:40 PM
I know Square are going to do something idiotic like pull IO Interactive off Hitman Season 3 for this initiative (S2 is already in production so too late to pull them off that). But when?

Also please god don't let any of their Japanese studios near it either.
Title: Re: SE Signs Deal That Will Waste Millions of Man Hours on Western Trash (SExMarvel)
Post by: thisismyusername on January 26, 2017, 07:53:21 PM
No Hawkeye or Black Widow gun/bow and arrow in this trailer. MCU status: Unconfirmed. :doge
Title: Re: SE Signs Deal That Will Waste Millions of Man Hours on Western Trash (SExMarvel)
Post by: VomKriege on January 26, 2017, 07:54:15 PM
Also please god don't let any of their Japanese studios near it either.

But I really want to see Thor vs Sephiroth in an updated Ehrgeiz engine !  :-\
Title: Re: SE Signs Deal That Will Waste Millions of Man Hours on Western Trash (SExMarvel)
Post by: Rahxephon91 on January 26, 2017, 08:13:11 PM
I know Square are going to do something idiotic like pull IO Interactive off Hitman Season 3 for this initiative (S2 is already in production so too late to pull them off that). But when?

Also please god don't let any of their Japanese studios near it either.
I mean why would they when Crystal Dynamics is free. As is thier close partner Avalanche.  Maybe Square would like to work with Platnium again after Nier.
Title: Re: SE Signs Deal That Will Waste Millions of Man Hours on Western Trash (SExMarvel)
Post by: Yeti on January 26, 2017, 08:15:12 PM
I want Life is Strange: Ms. Marvel edition
Title: Re: SE Signs Deal That Will Waste Millions of Man Hours on Western Trash (SExMarvel)
Post by: Huff on January 26, 2017, 08:59:26 PM
announced way to early

bet none of these games ever come out
Title: Re: SE Signs Deal That Will Waste Millions of Man Hours on Western Trash (SExMarvel)
Post by: Rahxephon91 on January 26, 2017, 09:51:59 PM
announced way to early

bet none of these games ever come out
I bet you most of them do. Crystal Dynamics has been free from Tomb Raider for a while now.
Title: Re: SE Signs Deal That Will Waste Millions of Man Hours on Western Trash (SExMarvel)
Post by: chronovore on August 09, 2020, 09:57:56 PM
http://twitter.com/brielarson/status/1292195532543164416

Game's launching soon.
Title: Re: SE Signs Deal That Will Waste Millions of Man Hours on Western Trash (SExMarvel)
Post by: Lonewulfeus on August 09, 2020, 11:29:13 PM
Not gonna lie, I’m pretty hyped for this game.  The open beta in 2 weeks is gonna determine if I pick it up day 1 though.
Title: Re: SE Signs Deal That Will Waste Millions of Man Hours on Western Trash (SExMarvel)
Post by: Trent Dole on August 10, 2020, 12:18:12 AM
So like this but with more zippers?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZZUMjoxfZA
Title: Re: SE Signs Deal That Will Waste Millions of Man Hours on Western Trash (SExMarvel)
Post by: Don Rumata on August 10, 2020, 05:23:27 AM
This capeshit prank has been going on long enough guys, it's not funny anymore...  :doge
Title: Re: SE Signs Deal That Will Waste Millions of Man Hours on Western Trash (SExMarvel)
Post by: Nintex on August 10, 2020, 05:49:13 AM
Deus Ex died for this, so all I can hope for is that Square Enix introduces Marvel characters to Kingdom Hearts and Disney fans have to pretend they enjoy heart to heart scenes between Goofy and Tony Stark about the difficulties of parenting.
Title: Re: SE Signs Deal That Will Waste Millions of Man Hours on Western Trash (SExMarvel)
Post by: MMaRsu on August 10, 2020, 07:02:42 AM
lmao Square Enox
Title: Re: SE Signs Deal That Will Waste Millions of Man Hours on Western Trash (SExMarvel)
Post by: HardcoreRetro on August 10, 2020, 07:11:09 AM
I watched someone stream this and they looked absolutely miserable while playing.

10/10
Title: Re: SE Signs Deal That Will Waste Millions of Man Hours on Western Trash (SExMarvel)
Post by: BIONIC on August 10, 2020, 07:12:48 AM
Title was ironic, but I really feel a disconnect from this game.

I’ll see how it plays out from afar, but from what I can tell there’s really basic combat and the core loop is just bumping your stats?

I’ll hold further judgement until I see more impressions from people who have played it.

The PS4 has an open beta this weekend. Might as well try it yourself.
Title: Re: SE Signs Deal That Will Waste Millions of Man Hours on Western Trash (SExMarvel)
Post by: Svejk on August 10, 2020, 07:59:19 AM
Everything about this deal is disgusting.  Screw The Avengers.  SE is needing to get someone on Deus Ex follow up FFS.  >:(  This is going to turn out worse that the EA/Star War train wreck.
Title: Re: SE Signs Deal That Will Waste Millions of Man Hours on Western Trash (SExMarvel)
Post by: bork on August 10, 2020, 08:06:31 AM
Title was ironic, but I really feel a disconnect from this game.

I’ll see how it plays out from afar, but from what I can tell there’s really basic combat and the core loop is just bumping your stats?

I’ll hold further judgement until I see more impressions from people who have played it.

The PS4 has an open beta this weekend. Might as well try it yourself.

I might try it after seeing that there's more depth to the combat, but I don't really care much for this game's aesthetic and dunno about the GAAS/grind gameplay.  If I want to play as Marvel characters and go run around beating up bad guys, I already have Ultimate Alliance 3 and its much bigger roster.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2fkC9D717w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=99j8Sag1Bqg

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I have been underestimating this game in terms of possibilities, for a second or two it definitely felt like I've been playing DMC starring Iron Man and it's been fantastic beyond all fours. I also haven't seen anyone (so far) going for the style that I showcase in this video, I hope it'll spark more interest in exploring the full game when it arrives.

Title: Re: SE Signs Deal That Will Waste Millions of Man Hours on Western Trash (SExMarvel)
Post by: Svejk on August 10, 2020, 10:44:14 AM
(https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/c_scale,f_auto,fl_progressive,pg_1,q_80,w_1600/ztdovr3yiikznyseeu1k.png)
(https://i.pinimg.com/236x/ef/47/1d/ef471de353e67b005678ca58d04b9d4c--stoner-questions-legal-humor.jpg)
Title: Re: SE Signs Deal That Will Waste Millions of Man Hours on Western Trash (SExMarvel)
Post by: Nintex on August 10, 2020, 11:06:25 AM
Mickey: "oh no Sora is in Trouble"

Black Widow: "Quick use the Cha-os ex machinum(?) Donald"

Donald: "psyou gotcha BlacksWidows"

Thor: "O no I cannot believe Sepiroth has split the mani.. mana(?) of my soul onto the gust of my conscience I feel my energy draining from my heart"

Iron Man: "Please forgive me Goofy. I cannot open my heart to you. Our love will remain unanswered for I cannot forgive my own sins."

Star Lord: "We really are the last of us"

Mulan: "Now sing everybody!"

****Fly on the winds and pray for my life in the darkness of time with your sooooul..... our love remains darkness of the tiiiiiiides... as we enter the night*****
Title: Re: SE Signs Deal That Will Waste Millions of Man Hours on Western Trash (SExMarvel)
Post by: Pissy F Benny on August 10, 2020, 11:10:27 AM
:bow :bow :bow :bow2 :bow2 :bow2
Title: Re: SE Signs Deal That Will Waste Millions of Man Hours on Western Trash (SExMarvel)
Post by: bork on August 11, 2020, 10:27:54 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aho-6GLe5cc
Title: Re: SE Signs Deal That Will Waste Millions of Man Hours on Western Trash (SExMarvel)
Post by: Joe Molotov on August 11, 2020, 11:48:24 AM
(SEXMARVEL)
Title: Re: SE Signs Deal That Will Waste Millions of Man Hours on Western Trash (SExMarvel)
Post by: Akala on August 11, 2020, 11:56:16 AM
this looks so terrible  :lol

both this and MVC:I look like Marvel was trying to bring console in line with mobage kusoge  :spiders
Title: Re: SE Signs Deal That Will Waste Millions of Man Hours on Western Trash (SExMarvel)
Post by: MMaRsu on August 11, 2020, 12:12:14 PM
Beaten by bork
Title: Re: SE Signs Deal That Will Waste Millions of Man Hours on Western Trash (SExMarvel)
Post by: bork on August 11, 2020, 12:45:41 PM
this looks so terrible  :lol

both this and MVC:I look like Marvel was trying to bring condole in line with mobage kusoge  :spiders

I still want to check out the open PS4 beta for shits n' giggles.
Title: Re: SE Signs Deal That Will Waste Millions of Man Hours on Western Trash (SExMarvel)
Post by: paprikastaude on August 11, 2020, 12:59:04 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aho-6GLe5cc

:pika
Title: Re: SE Signs Deal That Will Waste Millions of Man Hours on Western Trash (SExMarvel)
Post by: Great Rumbler on August 11, 2020, 01:11:38 PM
:piss GaaS :piss2
Title: Re: SE Signs Deal That Will Waste Millions of Man Hours on Western Trash (SExMarvel)
Post by: paprikastaude on August 11, 2020, 01:18:23 PM
Can't wait for this to battle it out with Suicide Squad  :wow (both should bomb into the same oblivion as Anthem, but unfortunately all the manbabies will embrace the hype like they are told to).
Title: Re: SE Signs Deal That Will Waste Millions of Man Hours on Western Trash (SExMarvel)
Post by: Pissy F Benny on August 11, 2020, 01:22:37 PM
this looks like liquid shit :lol glad I had no interest in it anyway :ego
Title: Re: SE Signs Deal That Will Waste Millions of Man Hours on Western Trash (SExMarvel)
Post by: bork on August 11, 2020, 02:03:59 PM
:piss GaaS :piss2

I think you mean :gaas
Title: Re: SE Signs Deal That Will Waste Millions of Man Hours on Western Trash (SExMarvel)
Post by: Nintex on August 11, 2020, 02:09:28 PM
We won't reach peak GaaS until the Sonic GaaS  :rejoice
Title: Re: SE Signs Deal That Will Waste Millions of Man Hours on Western Trash (SExMarvel)
Post by: Trent Dole on August 11, 2020, 02:16:36 PM
Oh it's just their western studios making shitty licensed games and not some crossover thing? :zzz
Title: Re: SE Signs Deal That Will Waste Millions of Man Hours on Western Trash (SExMarvel)
Post by: bork on August 11, 2020, 02:26:22 PM
Oh it's just their western studios making shitty licensed games and not some crossover thing? :zzz

Every time I see it, I just think that they should have made a Black Widow game that played like Tomb Raider.
Title: Re: SE Signs Deal That Will Waste Millions of Man Hours on Western Trash (SExMarvel)
Post by: bork on August 11, 2020, 02:42:46 PM
We won't reach peak GaaS until the Sonic GaaS  :rejoice

Gotta go fart fast

:gaas
Title: Re: SE Signs Deal That Will Waste Millions of Man Hours on Western Trash (SExMarvel)
Post by: Coffee Dog on August 11, 2020, 03:01:40 PM
I'd play it for free, hell a free version of this is basically Marvel Heroes which I wasted a bunch of time on. Gameplay really doesn't look like it's much better than the ultimate alliance games which have like 5 times as many characters. I'll try the open beta for sure but I'll be waiting a while for it to hit a price I'd jump in on.
Title: Re: SE Signs Deal That Will Waste Millions of Man Hours on Western Trash (SExMarvel)
Post by: D3RANG3D on August 11, 2020, 03:22:50 PM
Western Kusoge  :yuck
Title: Re: SE Signs Deal That Will Waste Millions of Man Hours on Western Trash (SExMarvel)
Post by: Sho Nuff on August 12, 2020, 12:45:23 AM
I'm so glad we're getting this instead of a new Deus Ex
Title: Re: SE Signs Deal That Will Waste Millions of Man Hours on Western Trash (SExMarvel)
Post by: Svejk on August 12, 2020, 08:06:51 AM
I'm so glad we're getting this instead of a new Deus Ex
:stahp
Title: Re: SE Signs Deal That Will Waste Millions of Man Hours on Western Trash (SExMarvel)
Post by: Coffee Dog on August 14, 2020, 09:52:58 AM
If anyone's interested, the open beta is up on PS4.

I'm playing on base PS4 so I fully expect a slideshow..
Title: Re: SE Signs Deal That Will Waste Millions of Man Hours on Western Trash (SExMarvel)
Post by: Let's Cyber on August 14, 2020, 11:24:59 AM
Square-enix website is getting hammered. Can't link my account to my console so I can't play.  :doge
Title: Re: SE Signs Deal That Will Waste Millions of Man Hours on Western Trash (SExMarvel)
Post by: Don Rumata on August 14, 2020, 02:30:46 PM
(https://i.pinimg.com/236x/ef/47/1d/ef471de353e67b005678ca58d04b9d4c--stoner-questions-legal-humor.jpg)
'cause it'd look like QWOP.
Title: Re: SE Signs Deal That Will Waste Millions of Man Hours on Western Trash (SExMarvel)
Post by: bork on August 14, 2020, 02:32:39 PM
(https://i.pinimg.com/236x/ef/47/1d/ef471de353e67b005678ca58d04b9d4c--stoner-questions-legal-humor.jpg)
'cause it'd look like QWOP.

The real answer is "turn in your nerd gun and badge, because Prof. X is a telepath and does not have telekinesis."

spoiler (click to show/hide)
And currently is walking around with a dumb-looking cerebro-thing on his head because he came back to life in another body or maybe because of the timeline change or maybe both because COMICS.
[close]

:nerds :expert  :rollsafe
Title: Re: SE Signs Deal That Will Waste Millions of Man Hours on Western Trash (SExMarvel)
Post by: Let's Cyber on August 14, 2020, 02:34:45 PM
Finally got in. Put in around 3 hours.

This game is super high production value turbo trash. Money is burning on screen in the service of a bad PS2 budget title gameplay.
Title: Re: SE Signs Deal That Will Waste Millions of Man Hours on Western Trash (SExMarvel)
Post by: bork on August 14, 2020, 03:32:29 PM
I just ran through the intro level.  This really is the epitome of a "AAA" game.  Cut scene, cut scene, PRESS BUTTON, cut scene, button mash, more cut scenes, cut scene, do some stuff, cut scene, switch characters, repeat.

Thor seems OK I guess.  Iron Man was kind of boring.  Hulk was pretty fun, Cap was good, although there was a point where it kept prompting to press forward and hold O to vault over shield-bearing enemies, and he wouldn't do it because their backs were to the wall.  Black Widow was also good and had better melee stuff than everyone else. 

Visually it looks good, but also off.  There's something about the character models that makes them look like they're from a high quality big budget PS3/360 game.  I selected the performance option over 4K and it seemed pretty smooth for the most part. 

Also kept getting these "YOU ARE NOT CONNECTED TO THE SERVER.  CHECK YOUR CONNECTION" messages every so often.  They cover the middle of the screen and are super-annoying.

Nothing about the way the game plays really stood out to me but Hulk and Widow were the most fun.  Will keep going later.
Title: Re: SE Signs Deal That Will Waste Millions of Man Hours on Western Trash (SExMarvel)
Post by: Let's Cyber on August 14, 2020, 05:36:07 PM
Ironman is a bit more engaging and enjoyable, the Anthem flying is fine.

There are bunch of skills to unlock and whatnot so it's difficult to completely write this off but damn the first impression is bad. Maybe it gets deeper later on but I'd rather wait until this is sub $10 and has X-Men.

Title: Re: SE Signs Deal That Will Waste Millions of Man Hours on Western Trash (SExMarvel)
Post by: Positive Touch on August 14, 2020, 09:52:40 PM
it sure as hell wasn't anything amazing, but i did enjoy it in the same way i've like lots of other comic book beat em ups over the years. i'm interested now. tho i gotta say the different faces and mediocre voice actors were giving me uncanny valley vibes, and the character models look almost last-gen.
Title: Re: SE Signs Deal That Will Waste Millions of Man Hours on Western Trash (SExMarvel)
Post by: bork on August 16, 2020, 11:02:20 AM
Rumor, from a supposed data-leak, on more playable characters:

    Ant-Man
    Vision
    Black Panther
    Dr. Strange
    Falcon
    Mar-Vell
    Mockingbird
    Quake
    Winter Soldier
    Scarlet Witch
    Captain Marvel
    Kate Bishop
    She-Hulk
    War Machine
Title: Re: SE Signs Deal That Will Waste Millions of Man Hours on Western Trash (SExMarvel)
Post by: Let's Cyber on August 16, 2020, 11:23:41 AM
Doctor Strange and Scarlet Witch could be neat but we need lots of X-men. Give me Wolverine, Storm and Magneto cowards.
Title: Re: SE Signs Deal That Will Waste Millions of Man Hours on Western Trash (SExMarvel)
Post by: bork on August 16, 2020, 11:40:01 AM
Doctor Strange and Scarlet Witch could be neat but we need lots of X-men. Give me Wolverine, Storm and Magneto cowards.

Ultimate Alliance 3
:rejoice
Title: Re: SE Signs Deal That Will Waste Millions of Man Hours on Western Trash (SExMarvel)
Post by: kingv on August 16, 2020, 06:47:54 PM
Played through the tutorial. It has very good graphics.... and the voiced acting is notably terrible.

Gameplay feels nice and punchy, so they campaign might be fun.
Title: Re: SE Signs Deal That Will Waste Millions of Man Hours on Western Trash (SExMarvel)
Post by: kingv on August 16, 2020, 09:51:34 PM
Also, ms marvel could do a number on the old prostate.

Edit: also for a game that’s supposed to come out in like 2 weeks it’s buggy as shit. Multiple freezes, disappearing hud in less than a hour of playing it.
Title: Re: SE Signs Deal That Will Waste Millions of Man Hours on Western Trash (SExMarvel)
Post by: Rahxephon91 on September 05, 2020, 01:30:04 AM
Wow the Inhuman aspect of this story feels like a relic. Wonder if it would have featured them had the game started development much later.
Title: Re: SE Signs Deal That Will Waste Millions of Man Hours on Western Trash (SExMarvel)
Post by: Bebpo on September 05, 2020, 02:08:41 AM
The Inhumans are in the game?
Title: Re: SE Signs Deal That Will Waste Millions of Man Hours on Western Trash (SExMarvel)
Post by: kingv on September 05, 2020, 03:51:16 AM
From the demo it seems it’s based on the Terrigen cloud storyline.

Man those were bad times at Marvel.
Title: Re: SE Signs Deal That Will Waste Millions of Man Hours on Western Trash (SExMarvel)
Post by: Lonewulfeus on September 05, 2020, 07:00:48 AM
Tried to do a mission today, got to a room where I needed to kill 5 enemies to continue and they would just straight up disappear, once while I was in the middle of a takedown :rage

Even when I reloaded the check point 90% of the time there were only 2-4 enemies.

I’ll try again tomorrow and hope it’s not still bugged.
Title: Re: SE Signs Deal That Will Waste Millions of Man Hours on Western Trash (SExMarvel)
Post by: Nintex on September 05, 2020, 08:10:27 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EhMLDMyWkAEChX_?format=png)

Adam Jensen died for this
Title: Re: SE Signs Deal That Will Waste Millions of Man Hours on Western Trash (SExMarvel)
Post by: thisismyusername on September 05, 2020, 08:17:07 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CXpuRIZzJog

Just give me that Black Widow solo movie for $10 on my own pipe, Disney.
Title: Re: SE Signs Deal That Will Waste Millions of Man Hours on Western Trash (SExMarvel)
Post by: Svejk on September 06, 2020, 01:33:34 PM
Not sure if I'm more angry that they shelved Deus Ex for this crap, or that this crap will still manage to profit due to their asinine Gaas structure and mouth breathing mellenials will keep shoveling them money.  So angry right now.  :ltg
Title: Re: SE Signs Deal That Will Waste Millions of Man Hours on Western Trash (SExMarvel)
Post by: Trent Dole on September 06, 2020, 08:17:28 PM
It's like 60 dollars but they have a bunch of monetization hooks in it anyway? Why are people ok with this?
Title: Re: SE Signs Deal That Will Waste Millions of Man Hours on Western Trash (SExMarvel)
Post by: Tuckers Law on September 06, 2020, 08:36:25 PM
But don't you get it?!?  Games are a trillion times more expensive now and prices are cheaper than ever!  The developers need that money to stay solvent!

spoiler (click to show/hide)
Please ignore that it's the publisher, and not the developer, that gains from monetization.
[close]
Title: Re: SE Signs Deal That Will Waste Millions of Man Hours on Western Trash (SExMarvel)
Post by: Don Rumata on September 06, 2020, 11:26:47 PM
I played about 80 hours of Division 2 and never paid anything beyond the base price (although i wouldn't mind the New York expansion, once it's cheap) i guess it depends on how decent the game is beyond the monetization, how much you can ignore it.
Title: Re: SE Signs Deal That Will Waste Millions of Man Hours on Western Trash (SExMarvel)
Post by: chronovore on September 07, 2020, 03:03:12 AM
Tried to do a mission today, got to a room where I needed to kill 5 enemies to continue and they would just straight up disappear, once while I was in the middle of a takedown :rage

Even when I reloaded the check point 90% of the time there were only 2-4 enemies.

I’ll try again tomorrow and hope it’s not still bugged.

Weird. I had the same thing happen in the Spider-Man game, during the later Negative-Man/Demon fight. I was doing the same stuff for 10 minutes, couldn't figure out what was happening - looked at YouTube and it's supposed to be spawning hordes of enemies that aren't in my playthrough.  :-\
Title: Re: SE Signs Deal That Will Waste Millions of Man Hours on Western Trash (SExMarvel)
Post by: bork on October 12, 2020, 04:26:59 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bRN00Xg3HyI
Title: Re: SE Signs Deal That Will Waste Millions of Man Hours on Western Trash (SExMarvel)
Post by: chronovore on October 13, 2020, 03:47:04 AM
I really don’t like that guy.
Title: Re: SE Signs Deal That Will Waste Millions of Man Hours on Western Trash (SExMarvel)
Post by: bork on October 13, 2020, 12:27:22 PM
I think The Avengers is a good game that could be a great game with some more content

Well, that's what he's talking about- compares it to Anthem in that they promised "years" of content that might never happen.  The playerbase has dwindled to the point where it's tough to find multiplayer games, etc.  Although he is also talking about PC, which seems unfair to the game as a whole.
Title: Re: SE Signs Deal That Will Waste Millions of Man Hours on Western Trash (SExMarvel)
Post by: bork on October 13, 2020, 12:28:02 PM
I really don’t like that guy.

He dissed Rogue Company in that video.  Rogue Company is fun.   :(
Title: Re: SE Signs Deal That Will Waste Millions of Man Hours on Western Trash (SExMarvel)
Post by: MMaRsu on October 13, 2020, 12:56:21 PM
I really don’t like that guy.

He dissed Rogue Company in that video.  Rogue Company is fun.   :(

Is it Epic only?

Then its not fun bork
Title: Re: SE Signs Deal That Will Waste Millions of Man Hours on Western Trash (SExMarvel)
Post by: bork on October 13, 2020, 01:01:09 PM
I really don’t like that guy.

He dissed Rogue Company in that video.  Rogue Company is fun.   :(

Is it Epic only?

Then its not fun bork

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V9O94UTDAJQ

You can also get it on all the consoles and it has cross-play/progression.  Good stuff.
Title: Re: SE Signs Deal That Will Waste Millions of Man Hours on Western Trash (SExMarvel)
Post by: MMaRsu on October 13, 2020, 01:54:27 PM
I mean I would play it but fuck Epic

Looks like a great game to me, same with that Arena shooter thats only EGS
Title: Re: SE Signs Deal That Will Waste Millions of Man Hours on Western Trash (SExMarvel)
Post by: bork on October 13, 2020, 03:19:53 PM
I mean I would play it but fuck Epic

Looks like a great game to me, same with that Arena shooter thats only EGS

OK, continue to miss out on games over your hate-boner.
Title: Re: SE Signs Deal That Will Waste Millions of Man Hours on Western Trash (SExMarvel)
Post by: Nintex on October 13, 2020, 03:35:16 PM
What a mess, I still can't believe Deus Ex died for this.
Hopefully they're working on a new Deus Ex now instead of more mediocre Marvel stuff.

To be fair, I think that this could've worked as just a single player game like the Batman games, but making it a live service thing doomed it from the start.
Title: Re: SE Signs Deal That Will Waste Millions of Man Hours on Western Trash (SExMarvel)
Post by: Bebpo on October 13, 2020, 03:56:59 PM
Yeah, I keep hearing this game is good, just not amazing and the GAAS post-game is the biggest issue along with the bugs/glitches. That the core combat/gameplay is good and the single player story mode campaign is good.

But man, the game seems like it's gonna die like Anthem and all those other GAAS games.

Which sucks for people like me who will grab it at $20 and want a couple years of character additions if they shut the whole thing down and it barely gets any more characters/stages/bosses/content.
Title: Re: SE Signs Deal That Will Waste Millions of Man Hours on Western Trash (SExMarvel)
Post by: Sho Nuff on October 13, 2020, 10:21:25 PM
Is this dead yet? They still have crazy signage in the Japanese game stores
Title: Re: SE Signs Deal That Will Waste Millions of Man Hours on Western Trash (SExMarvel)
Post by: chronovore on October 14, 2020, 03:09:15 AM
What a mess, I still can't believe Deus Ex died for this.
Hopefully they're working on a new Deus Ex now instead of more mediocre Marvel stuff.

To be fair, I think that this could've worked as just a single player game like the Batman games, but making it a live service thing doomed it from the start.

Avengers has nothing to do with Montreal or the other S-E studios which have made DX games. Crystal Dynamics hasn't made a Deus Ex game. Their Project: Snowblind was going to be DX, but marketing thought it wouldn't sell, so they pivoted to an original IP, which is an even more difficult push. You can still see how much of the core gameplay would have been DX-esque though.
Title: Re: SE Signs Deal That Will Waste Millions of Man Hours on Western Trash (SExMarvel)
Post by: BIONIC on October 14, 2020, 03:17:35 AM
What a mess, I still can't believe Deus Ex died for this.
Hopefully they're working on a new Deus Ex now instead of more mediocre Marvel stuff.

To be fair, I think that this could've worked as just a single player game like the Batman games, but making it a live service thing doomed it from the start.

Avengers has nothing to do with Montreal or the other S-E studios which have made DX games. Crystal Dynamics hasn't made a Deus Ex game. Their Project: Snowblind was going to be DX, but marketing thought it wouldn't sell, so they pivoted to an original IP, which is an even more difficult push. You can still see how much of the core gameplay would have been DX-esque though.

Eidos Montreal had part of their team working on Avengers, and they’re currently working on a Guardians of the Galaxy game as part of this deal.
Title: Re: SE Signs Deal That Will Waste Millions of Man Hours on Western Trash (SExMarvel)
Post by: Borealis on October 14, 2020, 04:01:39 AM
I recall someone mentioning they did substantial work on the campaign.

But yeah, a sizeable part of the studio is in the credits:

https://www.mobygames.com/game/playstation-4/marvel-avengers/credits

Title: Re: SE Signs Deal That Will Waste Millions of Man Hours on Western Trash (SExMarvel)
Post by: MMaRsu on October 14, 2020, 05:16:41 AM
I mean I would play it but fuck Epic

Looks like a great game to me, same with that Arena shooter thats only EGS

OK, continue to miss out on games over your hate-boner.

Not like there arent plenty of other good games to play so :shrug
Title: Re: SE Signs Deal That Will Waste Millions of Man Hours on Western Trash (SExMarvel)
Post by: thisismyusername on October 14, 2020, 06:23:58 AM
OK, continue to miss out on games over your hate-boner.

Will do. While Epig continues to close indie studios because they went with the wrong choice. 💅💅🍵🍵:kermit :kermit
Title: Re: SE Signs Deal That Will Waste Millions of Man Hours on Western Trash (SExMarvel)
Post by: bork on October 14, 2020, 07:10:43 AM
Yeah, I keep hearing this game is good, just not amazing

From who?  Please don't say Era.  :doge

I am also playing the wait-and-see game with this title, though.  If gets enough content and gets better as promised, I'll check it out later on.  Doesn't seem worth it at all right now.
Title: Re: SE Signs Deal That Will Waste Millions of Man Hours on Western Trash (SExMarvel)
Post by: bork on October 14, 2020, 07:11:40 AM
I mean I would play it but fuck Epic

Looks like a great game to me, same with that Arena shooter thats only EGS

OK, continue to miss out on games over your hate-boner.

Not like there arent plenty of other good games to play so :shrug

CAREFUL!  The other games might use UNREAL ENGINE and you'll want to ditch those too, like Fall Guys!

:heh
Title: Re: SE Signs Deal That Will Waste Millions of Man Hours on Western Trash (SExMarvel)
Post by: MMaRsu on October 14, 2020, 07:12:45 AM
I mean I would play it but fuck Epic

Looks like a great game to me, same with that Arena shooter thats only EGS

OK, continue to miss out on games over your hate-boner.

Not like there arent plenty of other good games to play so :shrug

CAREFUL!  The other games might use UNREAL ENGINE and you'll want to ditch those too, like Fall Guys!

:heh

I wanted to ditch Fall Guys because they used Epics anti cheat system

In the end I never did play it again

I have nothing against Unreal Engine, its not like they are trying to become a monopoly on that front.
Title: Re: SE Signs Deal That Will Waste Millions of Man Hours on Western Trash (SExMarvel)
Post by: bork on October 14, 2020, 07:21:17 AM
https://twitter.com/DisGuysaBeast/status/1305865028667617283

:kermit

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Try out Rogue Company on a console!
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Title: Re: SE Signs Deal That Will Waste Millions of Man Hours on Western Trash (SExMarvel)
Post by: Svejk on October 14, 2020, 08:26:13 AM
What a mess, I still can't believe Deus Ex died for this.
Hopefully they're working on a new Deus Ex now instead of more mediocre Marvel stuff.

To be fair, I think that this could've worked as just a single player game like the Batman games, but making it a live service thing doomed it from the start.

Avengers has nothing to do with Montreal or the other S-E studios which have made DX games. Crystal Dynamics hasn't made a Deus Ex game. Their Project: Snowblind was going to be DX, but marketing thought it wouldn't sell, so they pivoted to an original IP, which is an even more difficult push. You can still see how much of the core gameplay would have been DX-esque though.

Eidos Montreal had part of their team working on Avengers, and they’re currently working on a Guardians of the Galaxy game as part of this deal.
I hope this gets cancelled.
Title: Re: SE Signs Deal That Will Waste Millions of Man Hours on Western Trash (SExMarvel)
Post by: Rahxephon91 on October 14, 2020, 11:28:50 PM
I did'nt really care for the Avenger's game and I think the Gas elements are why.

But I would take a better version of this that was X-men instead. Like pretty much every X-man has a wide range of alternative costumes. Thats maybe microtransactions I'd fall for.
Title: Re: SE Signs Deal That Will Waste Millions of Man Hours on Western Trash (SExMarvel)
Post by: chronovore on October 14, 2020, 11:59:28 PM
What a mess, I still can't believe Deus Ex died for this.
Hopefully they're working on a new Deus Ex now instead of more mediocre Marvel stuff.

To be fair, I think that this could've worked as just a single player game like the Batman games, but making it a live service thing doomed it from the start.

Avengers has nothing to do with Montreal or the other S-E studios which have made DX games. Crystal Dynamics hasn't made a Deus Ex game. Their Project: Snowblind was going to be DX, but marketing thought it wouldn't sell, so they pivoted to an original IP, which is an even more difficult push. You can still see how much of the core gameplay would have been DX-esque though.

Eidos Montreal had part of their team working on Avengers, and they’re currently working on a Guardians of the Galaxy game as part of this deal.

Huh! Thanks for the correction!

I was only peripherally involved, and didn't have the whole picture.
Title: Re: SE Signs Deal That Will Waste Millions of Man Hours on Western Trash (SExMarvel)
Post by: Bebpo on October 15, 2020, 12:01:42 AM
Yeah, I keep hearing this game is good, just not amazing

From who?  Please don't say Era.  :doge

From this forum and the few people I know irl who picked it up. Generally most people seemed pretty happy with it outside running into some bugs here and there and the single player campaign being short.

Honestly the only negatives anyone has said to me about the single player is that there aren't enough supervillains and you basically are fighting dumb robo grunts and that the campaign is too short to sell on it's on for $60 if there was no post-game. Also could use some more playable characters.

Otoh, basically everyone's said great combat gameplay (essentially it's a character action game x arpg skillset), great story/writing/custscenes, real good graphics.

Sounds like a good for $20-30 game.
Title: Re: SE Signs Deal That Will Waste Millions of Man Hours on Western Trash (SExMarvel)
Post by: bork on October 15, 2020, 07:11:44 AM
Yeah, I keep hearing this game is good, just not amazing

From who?  Please don't say Era.  :doge

From this forum and the few people I know irl who picked it up. Generally most people seemed pretty happy with it outside running into some bugs here and there and the single player campaign being short.

I don't see a slew of positive impressions from the last page of this thread and Rahx posted his review on YT where he wasn't thrilled with it.

Honestly the only negatives anyone has said to me about the single player is that there aren't enough supervillains and you basically are fighting dumb robo grunts and that the campaign is too short to sell on it's on for $60 if there was no post-game. Also could use some more playable characters.

Otoh, basically everyone's said great combat gameplay (essentially it's a character action game x arpg skillset), great story/writing/custscenes, real good graphics.

Sounds like a good for $20-30 game.

Coming kind of full-circle here- this is what Jim was touching on.  There's not enough content, you're fighting the same AIM enemies over and over again, and it just gets boring.  Will they add enough new content in to make a purchase worth it?  It could very well turn out to be Anthem all over again.  But it could also end up being much-improved.  For all the crap SFV gets, they stuck with it and added a lot to the game over the past few years.  Maybe that will happen with this title, too.  I'm with you and will see how things are going when it's on sale on the cheap.
Title: Re: SE Signs Deal That Will Waste Millions of Man Hours on Western Trash (SExMarvel)
Post by: Pissy F Benny on October 15, 2020, 08:04:26 AM
What happened with anthem have they just given up on it or are they still trying to salvage it :hmm
Title: Re: SE Signs Deal That Will Waste Millions of Man Hours on Western Trash (SExMarvel)
Post by: bork on October 15, 2020, 08:06:48 AM
What happened with anthem have they just given up on it or are they still trying to salvage it :hmm

Last I saw, they said back in May that the game was getting an overhaul and a small team was working to make it much better and blah blah blah.  Nothing since then. 
Title: Re: SE Signs Deal That Will Waste Millions of Man Hours on Western Trash (SExMarvel)
Post by: Svejk on October 15, 2020, 08:39:21 AM
Yeah, they stated that the supposed Anthem 2.0 is still a long ways away...  if it even comes to fruition.  :doge  As many times as it's dropped to $12, I get tempted to fuck around with it, but then ask myself why bother.
Title: Re: SE Signs Deal That Will Waste Millions of Man Hours on Western Trash (SExMarvel)
Post by: Pissy F Benny on October 15, 2020, 10:48:16 AM
EA must have spent a shit load on development for it then, you’d usually expect them to L abandon it and never mention it again, unless there’s someone high up there who has a massive hard on for it :lol :lol :lol
Title: Re: SE Signs Deal That Will Waste Millions of Man Hours on Western Trash (SExMarvel)
Post by: Mr. Gundam on October 16, 2020, 11:38:22 AM
Yeah, I keep hearing this game is good, just not amazing

From who?  Please don't say Era.  :doge

From this forum and the few people I know irl who picked it up. Generally most people seemed pretty happy with it outside running into some bugs here and there and the single player campaign being short.

Honestly the only negatives anyone has said to me about the single player is that there aren't enough supervillains and you basically are fighting dumb robo grunts and that the campaign is too short to sell on it's on for $60 if there was no post-game. Also could use some more playable characters.

Otoh, basically everyone's said great combat gameplay (essentially it's a character action game x arpg skillset), great story/writing/custscenes, real good graphics.

Sounds like a good for $20-30 game.

So you're saying Black Friday $25 game? I can dig it.
Title: Re: SE Signs Deal That Will Waste Millions of Man Hours on Western Trash (SExMarvel)
Post by: Bebpo on October 16, 2020, 12:11:22 PM
Is this dead yet? They still have crazy signage in the Japanese game stores

So they just delayed everything in production for this.

It's dead
Title: Re: SE Signs Deal That Will Waste Millions of Man Hours on Western Trash (SExMarvel)
Post by: Mr. Gundam on October 16, 2020, 12:36:49 PM
Is Spiderman still coming out on the PS4/5?
Title: Re: SE Signs Deal That Will Waste Millions of Man Hours on Western Trash (SExMarvel)
Post by: Bebpo on October 16, 2020, 03:28:02 PM
I mean I guess?

I think what's going to happen given the new consoles is a soft 2.0 reboot next spring/summer with a lot more content and revised systms, ironing the bugs out. Aka the more polished game that should have launched (though how they had to rush the game when it was in dev for so long idk this industry sucks).

Maybe Spider-Man will launch with the PS5 version then.
Title: Re: SE Signs Deal That Will Waste Millions of Man Hours on Western Trash (SExMarvel)
Post by: Nintex on October 16, 2020, 06:46:58 PM
https://avengers.square-enix-games.com/en-us/news/sotg_oct_2020/ (https://avengers.square-enix-games.com/en-us/news/sotg_oct_2020/)

Quote
With this in mind, we’ve decided to push Kate Bishop’s Operation launch back a bit, out of October. We’re sorry for this slight delay, but we are dedicated as a team to quality first.
Quote
We’ve also made the decision to shift our PlayStation 5 and Xbox Series X|S launch to next year to ensure that we give our team the time to deliver a next-gen experience showcasing all that this game is meant to be. More details to come

 :crowdlaff

Thank you for buying a ROADMAP suckers
Title: Re: SE Signs Deal That Will Waste Millions of Man Hours on Western Trash (SExMarvel)
Post by: Supermanisdead on October 17, 2020, 04:19:39 AM
I did'nt really care for the Avenger's game and I think the Gas elements are why.

But I would take a better version of this that was X-men instead. Like pretty much every X-man has a wide range of alternative costumes. Thats maybe microtransactions I'd fall for.

I don't know what they are holding back for, even these boring Avengers have dozens of costumes to choose from. Even Kamala who is less than a decade old has costumes to choose from that aren't in the game. But so far all the looks I've seen are horrible palette swaps and "casual clothes" (Thor in a t-shirt lmao). Fucking VERIZON branded outfits got dev time over... literally anything else.
Title: Re: SE Signs Deal That Will Waste Millions of Man Hours on Western Trash (SExMarvel)
Post by: Nintex on November 06, 2020, 11:49:16 AM
https://twitter.com/gibbogame/status/1324754312279465991 (https://twitter.com/gibbogame/status/1324754312279465991)

 :heh :neogaf :bernie :mynicca :aah :sabu :pacspit :pacspit :aweshum
Title: Re: SE Signs Deal That Will Waste Millions of Man Hours on Western Trash (SExMarvel)
Post by: BIONIC on November 06, 2020, 01:10:11 PM
https://twitter.com/gibbogame/status/1324754312279465991 (https://twitter.com/gibbogame/status/1324754312279465991)

 :heh :neogaf :bernie :mynicca :aah :sabu :pacspit :pacspit :aweshum

Zatt will buy enough shitty skins to save it  :salute   
Title: Re: SE Signs Deal That Will Waste Millions of Man Hours on Western Trash (SExMarvel)
Post by: Borealis on November 07, 2020, 04:45:35 AM
https://twitter.com/gibbogame/status/1324754312279465991 (https://twitter.com/gibbogame/status/1324754312279465991)

 :heh :neogaf :bernie :mynicca :aah :sabu :pacspit :pacspit :aweshum

Mankind Divided contributed a net profit to Square's earnings when it released. Fucking died for this.

 :stahp
Title: Re: SE Signs Deal That Will Waste Millions of Man Hours on Western Trash (SExMarvel)
Post by: MMaRsu on November 08, 2020, 04:02:41 AM
Fuck Square Enix, fuck Live service sheit games, fuck Ubisoft, fuck Assassins Creed bullshit,

fuck it all

the game industry is trash
Title: Re: SE Signs Deal That Will Waste Millions of Man Hours on Western Trash (SExMarvel)
Post by: Nintex on November 08, 2020, 06:03:08 AM
Fuck Square Enix, fuck Live service sheit games, fuck Ubisoft, fuck Assassins Creed bullshit,

fuck it all

the game industry is trash
All this anger, let's come together this is a time of healing  :biden
Title: Re: SE Signs Deal That Will Waste Millions of Man Hours on Western Trash (SExMarvel)
Post by: bork on November 11, 2020, 09:01:11 AM
Fuck Square Enix, fuck Live service sheit games, fuck Ubisoft, fuck Assassins Creed bullshit,

fuck it all

the game industry is trash

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hTOKJTRHMdw
Title: Re: SE Signs Deal That Will Waste Millions of Man Hours on Western Trash (SExMarvel)
Post by: Joe Molotov on November 11, 2020, 09:31:35 AM
Fuck Square Enix, fuck Live service sheit games, fuck Ubisoft, fuck Assassins Creed bullshit,

fuck it all

the game industry is trash

Kill Em All 1985

410,757,864,530 DEAD DEVELOPERS
Title: Re: SE Signs Deal That Will Waste Millions of Man Hours on Western Trash (SExMarvel)
Post by: chronovore on November 12, 2020, 06:05:23 AM
I’ll be grabbing this at the first sale.
Title: Re: SE Signs Deal That Will Waste Millions of Man Hours on Western Trash (SExMarvel)
Post by: Sho Nuff on November 12, 2020, 08:12:30 PM
I’ll be grabbing this at the first sale.

Me too, I feel like this is gonna be sitting next to the copies of Anthem and Destiny 2 on the Shelf of Embarrassment in the japanese shops
Title: Re: SE Signs Deal That Will Waste Millions of Man Hours on Western Trash (SExMarvel)
Post by: Nintex on November 15, 2020, 06:13:56 AM
https://twitter.com/DiscussingFilm/status/1327688979232272392 (https://twitter.com/DiscussingFilm/status/1327688979232272392)
 :kermit
Title: Re: SE Signs Deal That Will Waste Millions of Man Hours on Western Trash (SExMarvel)
Post by: Pissy F Benny on November 15, 2020, 06:30:32 AM
Western trash :pacspit
Title: Re: SE Signs Deal That Will Waste Millions of Man Hours on Western Trash (SExMarvel)
Post by: bork on November 15, 2020, 05:44:39 PM
https://twitter.com/DiscussingFilm/status/1327688979232272392 (https://twitter.com/DiscussingFilm/status/1327688979232272392)
 :kermit

In fairness, it's only referring to the Steam version.  They also say that they got this info from another site, whose article has nothing to do with the number of people online and is from October:

https://www.tweaktown.com/news/75890/marvels-avengers-is-big-success-with-2-million-launch-month-sales/index.html
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Marvel's Avengers is a big success with 2.2 million launch month sales

Square Enix's new Avengers live game enjoyed successful sales roughly equal to Spider-Man's 2018 release, second to FF7 Remake.

 :doge
Title: Re: SE Signs Deal That Will Waste Millions of Man Hours on Western Trash (SExMarvel)
Post by: Bebpo on November 20, 2020, 01:39:10 PM
$30 already on PSN

 :neogaf


Still gonna hold strong and wait until next year when there's a bigger roster of characters/content and it's $20. Although I'm starting to think they'll reboot it as F2P in a year.

*edit* nm, I'm a sucker. Saw it had a free PS5 version upgrade in 2021 + Spider-Man and...caved and got it for $30
Title: Re: SE Signs Deal That Will Waste Millions of Man Hours on Western Trash (SExMarvel)
Post by: bork on November 20, 2020, 02:57:32 PM
$30 already on PSN

 :neogaf


Still gonna hold strong and wait until next year when there's a bigger roster of characters/content and it's $20. Although I'm starting to think they'll reboot it as F2P in a year.

*edit* nm, I'm a sucker. Saw it had a free PS5 version upgrade in 2021 + Spider-Man and...caved and got it for $30

That's a good price.  Shit, I might cave.  :P
Title: Re: SE Signs Deal That Will Waste Millions of Man Hours on Western Trash (SExMarvel)
Post by: Tasty on November 20, 2020, 03:14:17 PM
https://twitter.com/GameLeaksRumors/status/1329859428359790594

👀
Title: Re: SE Signs Deal That Will Waste Millions of Man Hours on Western Trash (SExMarvel)
Post by: bork on November 20, 2020, 03:18:05 PM
Even games like Tomb Raider?  Seems suspect.
:thinking
Title: Re: SE Signs Deal That Will Waste Millions of Man Hours on Western Trash (SExMarvel)
Post by: Nintex on November 20, 2020, 04:35:50 PM
Crazier things have leaked on 4chan and Squenix financials weren't great.

Marvel : Bombed
Tomb Raider : Successful but key players left the team, probably expensive af to do a next gen one
Deus Ex : Ran into the ground with dumb pre-order schemes
Just Cause : ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Hitman : Went back to ioi

With that said, Ubisoft is in a heap of shit and restructuring also and just about managed to avoid a hostile buyout from Vivendi a little while ago.
My biggest question mark is if the price is so low Ubi can afford it or it has been in the works longer.
Title: Re: SE Signs Deal That Will Waste Millions of Man Hours on Western Trash (SExMarvel)
Post by: kingv on November 20, 2020, 05:55:16 PM
Sell it to microsoft obvi.
Title: Re: SE Signs Deal That Will Waste Millions of Man Hours on Western Trash (SExMarvel)
Post by: Sho Nuff on November 20, 2020, 05:57:39 PM
This is 1900 yen at the secondhand shops as of Wednesday night. I will bite when it hits 480 yen.
Title: Re: SE Signs Deal That Will Waste Millions of Man Hours on Western Trash (SExMarvel)
Post by: Nintex on November 20, 2020, 06:45:37 PM
You know, it might not be such a bad idea for Square Enix to throw such rumors out there just to see who would bite or be interested in discussing the options.
Title: Re: SE Signs Deal That Will Waste Millions of Man Hours on Western Trash (SExMarvel)
Post by: kingv on November 21, 2020, 12:28:11 AM
It's really kind of remarkable that the Avengers game was such a bomb. A well-made Avengers would fucking shit money.

Just make a really killer beat em up with a great campaign.

Of course... if you lose a $100 million selling 3 million copies.... you just have a bad business plan, IMO.
Title: Re: SE Signs Deal That Will Waste Millions of Man Hours on Western Trash (SExMarvel)
Post by: Nintex on November 21, 2020, 05:52:56 AM
Without the likes of Anthem they would've probably pulled it off. But gamers are just weary of roadmaps now. Sony cut off its holiday season legs with Spider-Man too.

The only chance they have is a quick next gen patch early next year when PS5 / XSX games are in short supply and people tend to buy 'anything' for their new shiny consoles.

I think a Tomb Raider clone starring Black Widow for PS5/XSX launch would've been a much bigger success.
Title: Re: SE Signs Deal That Will Waste Millions of Man Hours on Western Trash (SExMarvel)
Post by: MMaRsu on November 21, 2020, 06:22:22 AM
It has nothing to do with Anthem. Game is just shit. Fuck off with your live service sheit. Aint nobody got fucking time for that shit
Title: Re: SE Signs Deal That Will Waste Millions of Man Hours on Western Trash (SExMarvel)
Post by: Pissy F Benny on November 21, 2020, 06:35:45 AM
Calm down jim Sterling :cenk
Title: Re: SE Signs Deal That Will Waste Millions of Man Hours on Western Trash (SExMarvel)
Post by: Lonewulfeus on November 21, 2020, 07:10:16 AM
This forum has a bunch of neets, we got plenty of time for that shit :ufup
Title: Re: SE Signs Deal That Will Waste Millions of Man Hours on Western Trash (SExMarvel)
Post by: Great Rumbler on November 21, 2020, 09:35:47 AM
This forum has a bunch of neets, we got plenty of time for that shit :ufup

:mjcry
Title: Re: SE Signs Deal That Will Waste Millions of Man Hours on Western Trash (SExMarvel)
Post by: kingv on November 21, 2020, 07:34:31 PM
Calm down jim Sterling :cenk

Jim Fucking Sterling son.

I remember in the days where I never had seen a Jim Sterling video but saw people talk about him so much

Then I watched one and realized he was the comic book guy from the Simpsons come to life.
Title: Re: SE Signs Deal That Will Waste Millions of Man Hours on Western Trash (SExMarvel)
Post by: Nintex on November 21, 2020, 07:45:43 PM
I remember when Jim wrote shitty reviews to curb the metacritic average of popular and highly rated games and we dunked on him on the old place  :aah
Title: Re: SE Signs Deal That Will Waste Millions of Man Hours on Western Trash (SExMarvel)
Post by: chronovore on November 21, 2020, 08:01:00 PM
Sterling is a self aggrandizing cur who subsists on diminishing the hard work of others. Making himself big by trying to make others small. If he internalized how this is similar to the bullying he almost certainly faced in his youth, he would have to stop doing it.
Title: Re: SE Signs Deal That Will Waste Millions of Man Hours on Western Trash (SExMarvel)
Post by: benjipwns on November 21, 2020, 08:01:25 PM
Even games like Tomb Raider?  Seems suspect.
Tomb Raider has never performed at the levels that Square has projected it to. It sells well, like Deus Ex oddly enough, but disappoints because Square seems to think it should be a major ten million copies type franchise.

I know there's lots of doubling up large studio infrastructures in the same cities (Montreal, Shanghai, etc.) in an Ubisoft deal which might make people think the IPs are the target. This would not be strange in an Ubisoft case though because they've purchased large studios in the same city before to fold them into existing operations, this is the main reason they bought THQ Montreal for example. They mostly left the existing THQ IPs on the table during that auction. Square Enix Montreal would definitely be a target for this I would have to imagine.
Title: Re: SE Signs Deal That Will Waste Millions of Man Hours on Western Trash (SExMarvel)
Post by: Rahxephon91 on November 21, 2020, 08:40:47 PM
Are the Avenger's that popular outside of the movies?

Was making a game that looked like the dollar store version of the movie Avenger's primed to be a hit?

I'm not sure, but I think in general this project always had the wrong vision. At the end of the day people like these super-hero games because it allows them to partake in the stories of characters they are familiar with. Even when the rpg games of Ultimate Alliance or X-men Legends came out, the appeal was you were experiencing instead of reading the story. Batman, Spider-man, and so on are polished and well designed games, but also strong on cinematics, story, and just in general recreating the comic world. I don't think anyone was asking for a grindy Destiny like take.

I mean the game itself admits this when the loot has no visual change to the characters. I'm sure there's a license issue maybe, but also the simple fact that people want to see the characters as they are. When you are a kid you wanted the Batman action figure with the correct costume, not stupid deep sea diving Batman. Sure fans will want the variants, but they wont want them tarnished with the loot.

So if you are making a loot game and missing the huge aspect of loot which is the visual representation of progress, you've already failed.

People wanted a single player adventure that allowed them to experince and partake in Avenger's adventure. Probably one that is cinematic and whatnot because they want to partake in the movies they like. Since Avenger's is a team based thing, of course you'd want co-op.

That's what people wanted, but the game can't even give a half-assed version of that completely since the single player cinematic story is not co-op.

So what you have left is a game that offered a single player that is no doubt crippled by having to be training and share development resources for the Destiny portion. Which does not really jell well.

What people wanted was the Lego Marvel games, but not Lego.

Title: Re: SE Signs Deal That Will Waste Millions of Man Hours on Western Trash (SExMarvel)
Post by: bork on November 21, 2020, 08:59:46 PM
Sterling is a self aggrandizing cur who subsists on diminishing the hard work of others. Making himself big by trying to make others small. If he internalized how this is similar to the bullying he almost certainly faced in his youth, he would have to stop doing it.

One of my biggest problems with him is how incredibly negative so many of his videos are- that's his thing, I know, but but do we really need multiple videos on what is essentially the same thing over and over again (with the same companies) on whatever move executives might have done now?  Him talking about this in character just makes it worse.

Are the Avenger's that popular outside of the movies?

They were always popular characters, but I think it's safe to say that Spider-Man and the X-Men are arguably much more popular, at least the latter used to be.  No idea how the younger crowd views the X-Men since Marvel made such a big push to remove them from as much as they could because of Fox holding the movie rights until recently.  Remember when they tried to push the Inhumans as X-Men replacements?  LOL.

Marvel did an amazing job of making the Avengers absolutely HUGE with their movies, but they have all their properties back.  Why are we still getting Avengers stuff when some of those character stories are seemingly over in their movie universe?  Stop trying to push c-list teams like the Eternals and get to the X-Men and Fantastic Four already.
:bolo
Title: Re: SE Signs Deal That Will Waste Millions of Man Hours on Western Trash (SExMarvel)
Post by: benjipwns on November 21, 2020, 09:25:08 PM
Phase Four got cut off because of COVID, they punted existing movies into what were "held" slots for something bigger. The Eternals was already in production and half-filmed when they got everything back so they're probably hoping it can be a surprise like Guardians. They have to reboot Black Panther now too, it had a 2022 slot.

Something like Galactus would be easy to tease in their existing properties and set up future ones as he moves towards Earth. Especially if they're scared about Fantastic Four going it alone, he's a big enough threat to justify a Fantastic Four/West Coast Second Tier Avengers team-up movie. Then you've cleared the deck of the existing actors, setup a new second tier of movies headlined by FF and made room for the biggest possible property to come in and single handedly re-march Disney to $10 Billion™: X-Men.
Title: Re: SE Signs Deal That Will Waste Millions of Man Hours on Western Trash (SExMarvel)
Post by: chronovore on November 22, 2020, 12:46:14 AM
The Avengers was always a pretty reliable comic book, but not like the breakout popularity in the '80s with anything mutant-related. The X-Men went big, so they added additional titles each month, and it turned out to be a hobby that only dudes who could spend $3-4/book across multiple series each month for 26pp of entertainment. They went to specialty stores as main distribution, so the wire-racks in supermarkets and liquor stores with broader availability to families with kids was reduced. They ended up attenuating their own audience too much.

Anyway, I'm gonna go buy it for $30 and will report back.
Title: Re: SE Signs Deal That Will Waste Millions of Man Hours on Western Trash (SExMarvel)
Post by: tiesto on November 23, 2020, 03:36:03 PM
Crazier things have leaked on 4chan and Squenix financials weren't great.

Marvel : Bombed
Tomb Raider : Successful but key players left the team, probably expensive af to do a next gen one
Deus Ex : Ran into the ground with dumb pre-order schemes
Just Cause : ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Hitman : Went back to ioi

With that said, Ubisoft is in a heap of shit and restructuring also and just about managed to avoid a hostile buyout from Vivendi a little while ago.
My biggest question mark is if the price is so low Ubi can afford it or it has been in the works longer.

IMO, SE really didn't do a good job of trying to 'bridge the gap' between the type of gamers who would buy Squaresoft games sight unsound in the SNES/PS1 days and the Eidos titles. Like, there are some Eidos titles that have obvious resonance for the traditional SE fans - those who like adventure and story-based games - Tomb Raider and Deus Ex, and legacy Eidos products like Anachronox and Kain - but marketing wise, these feel in a separate world than FF/DQ/KH. I think SE should hold onto those but sell off stuff like Just Cause (I was gonna say Hitman too but it seems like they sold off this) which might not resonate as much with the core SE audience.

Also I know SE bought Eidos to diversify back in the PS3/early PS4 era when their Japanese teams were having development struggles, but now that FF14 had the biggest turnaround in gaming history after an unprecedented effort and FF15 finally got shit out like a constipated turd, they seem to have gotten a lot of their mojo back this gen. A healthy assortment of massive hits (FF/DQ/KH) and smaller, but still high quality, games (Nier Automata, Octopath, Trials of Mana, Bravely Default, DQ Builders).

Avengers as a single player, ~40 hour action/adventure RPG (i.e. Kingdom Hearts without the Nomura BS) would've probably been massive. But I feel the GAAS market is now getting overcrowded and it's tough to divert peoples' attention away from the big guns of GTA Online, Fortnite, Destiny, etc... kinda like what happened with MMOs in the post-WOW boom.
Title: Re: SE Signs Deal That Will Waste Millions of Man Hours on Western Trash (SExMarvel)
Post by: chronovore on November 23, 2020, 05:45:05 PM
It's also clear that GaaS is seen as a recurring revenue stream, but sticking it on a full-price game, or even a discounted one, is poorly received by players. Oddly, when people pay for a game, they actually expect to have a full game of some sort. Gatekeeping portions of it is perceived as greed.

Fortnite offering the multiplayer portion of their game as a free option completely re-wrote their path. Destiny 2 going F2P is nuts to me, I'm curious if their model will sustain them. GTA is its own beast, as its always appeared able to dictate the path of the industry to follow in their wake (unless they launch on Nintendo, where even the best GTA of that generation still managed to die).
Title: Re: SE Signs Deal That Will Waste Millions of Man Hours on Western Trash (SExMarvel)
Post by: Tasty on November 23, 2020, 05:58:45 PM
Should all this have been plainly clear to publisher execs after EA's Battlefront II debacle? :doge

How do you take amazing graphics tech and a juggernaut IP at the height of its powers, and flush it all down the space-toilet? Greed. More specifically, rampant and obvious greed.

I knew people would forget but didn't think this quickly. :trumps

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UqIqSi3iy8Y
Title: Re: SE Signs Deal That Will Waste Millions of Man Hours on Western Trash (SExMarvel)
Post by: chronovore on November 23, 2020, 06:53:33 PM
Things the industry should have learned more quickly, and perhaps still hasn't learned:

* Yes, I know PUBG/Fortnite, but that's a matter of a disorganized indie fluke hit demonstrating a gameplay model, and a better financed behemoth striding in and eating their lunch. I'm thinking of how many RTS games game out after Warcraft, and how many half-assed FPS came out after Doom 2, and again after Quake... and most of them fell flat.
Title: Re: SE Signs Deal That Will Waste Millions of Man Hours on Western Trash (SExMarvel)
Post by: bork on November 23, 2020, 09:17:03 PM
SE showing support with a HUGE NEW TOMB RAIDER GAME ANNOUNCEMENT!

spoiler (click to show/hide)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3X1zFREqJc

 :larry
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Title: Re: SE Signs Deal That Will Waste Millions of Man Hours on Western Trash (SExMarvel)
Post by: Sho Nuff on November 23, 2020, 09:52:52 PM
SE showing support with a HUGE NEW TOMB RAIDER GAME ANNOUNCEMENT!

spoiler (click to show/hide)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3X1zFREqJc

 :larry
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I love when they take the thing that everyone likes then they change the art so it's something that nobody likes, I want to see more of that
Title: Re: SE Signs Deal That Will Waste Millions of Man Hours on Western Trash (SExMarvel)
Post by: chronovore on November 24, 2020, 05:38:51 AM
I was just thinking how it looked a lot like that Activision game from back in the day, when they turned it into a 3D action game, with a Bruce Campbell character. The one with the crocodiles. That TR trailer looks like that.

Edit: PITFALL, curse my fatigue-addled brain.
Title: Re: SE Signs Deal That Will Waste Millions of Man Hours on Western Trash (SExMarvel)
Post by: MMaRsu on November 24, 2020, 06:09:34 AM
30 bucks now.

Still wayyy too much.
Title: Re: SE Signs Deal That Will Waste Millions of Man Hours on Western Trash (SExMarvel)
Post by: Great Rumbler on November 24, 2020, 12:39:36 PM
Garbo artstyle
Clearly aimed towards a younger audience
Mobile

 :camby
Title: Re: SE Signs Deal That Will Waste Millions of Man Hours on Western Trash (SExMarvel)
Post by: Joe Molotov on November 24, 2020, 01:35:34 PM
GaaS
Title: Re: SE Signs Deal That Will Waste Millions of Man Hours on Western Trash (SExMarvel)
Post by: kingv on November 24, 2020, 03:16:14 PM
Finally a tomb raider game with art by the guys from Supercell
Title: Re: SE Signs Deal That Will Waste Millions of Man Hours on Western Trash (SExMarvel)
Post by: Lonewulfeus on December 09, 2020, 03:40:56 PM
Just played the Kate Bishop campaign and really enjoyed it.  Took about 3 hours to get through the missions without really stopping to explore the levels.  Kate’s power set is pretty fun, but once I got shotgun arrows upgraded it was pretty much all I used.  It made bigger enemies like dreadbots, exos, and adaptoids just melt.  Her teleport powers definitely have potential but I preferred the bow aspect.  Very solid for free dlc.
Title: Re: SE Signs Deal That Will Waste Millions of Man Hours on Western Trash (SExMarvel)
Post by: Bebpo on December 09, 2020, 04:32:51 PM
Nice, if they can just do that about another 9 times for the rest of the DLC characters (and in a reasonable time frame), it should help the lack of content.
Title: Re: SE Signs Deal That Will Waste Millions of Man Hours on Western Trash (SExMarvel)
Post by: Lonewulfeus on December 09, 2020, 04:52:43 PM
Nice, if they can just do that about another 9 times for the rest of the DLC characters (and in a reasonable time frame), it should help the lack of content.

Yea hopefully they don’t cut their dlc plans short.  I’ve had my fun with it so if they do so be it, but I’d definitely like to play some other avengers for sure.  Most looking forward to Strange and Scarlet Witch of the leaked potential list.
Title: Re: SE Signs Deal That Will Waste Millions of Man Hours on Western Trash (SExMarvel)
Post by: Tycoon Padre on March 04, 2021, 09:12:54 PM
https://twitter.com/jasonschreier/status/1367505999595245579

Things are looking pretty good.

Wonder what the make-good is going to be #4theplayers when they inevitably kill this shit without giving them the free Speederman they were promised. Or maybe they'll just have to wait a few years to get their buck fifty from a false advertising class action :money
Title: Re: SE Signs Deal That Will Waste Millions of Man Hours on Western Trash (SExMarvel)
Post by: Bebpo on March 04, 2021, 09:30:51 PM
Yeah, that's crazy.

At least it only changes xp after lvl.25 which from what I understand is the post-game GAAS part which sucks anyhow. Shouldn't effect the campaign at least.
Title: Re: SE Signs Deal That Will Waste Millions of Man Hours on Western Trash (SExMarvel)
Post by: chronovore on March 05, 2021, 12:18:25 AM
https://twitter.com/jasonschreier/status/1367505999595245579

Things are looking pretty good.

Wonder what the make-good is going to be #4theplayers when they inevitably kill this shit without giving them the free Speederman they were promised. Or maybe they'll just have to wait a few years to get their buck fifty from a false advertising class action :money

 :holeup

I really wonder what the thinking is there.
Then again, no-one launches a GaaS game without retroactively recognizing their model needs adjustment.
Title: Re: SE Signs Deal That Will Waste Millions of Man Hours on Western Trash (SExMarvel)
Post by: benjipwns on March 05, 2021, 12:51:36 AM
March 18th huh, so get your leveling in before Zach Snyder's Justice League ends Marvel forever. :jeb
Title: Re: SE Signs Deal That Will Waste Millions of Man Hours on Western Trash (SExMarvel)
Post by: chronovore on March 05, 2021, 01:46:17 AM
:iface
Title: Re: SE Signs Deal That Will Waste Millions of Man Hours on Western Trash (SExMarvel)
Post by: Lonewulfeus on March 05, 2021, 04:48:55 AM
I did get Kate Bishop to level 50 incredibly fast.  She was pretty much 40 by the end of her short campaign and 50 in 3 missions after that.  I just figured they did that intentionally.
Title: Re: SE Signs Deal That Will Waste Millions of Man Hours on Western Trash (SExMarvel)
Post by: Bebpo on March 18, 2021, 02:39:07 PM
Next-gen versions out now

https://youtu.be/EskZVX0wE_U

Black Panther/Wakanda in the fall. Jack shit else this year otherwise...

 :salute Avengers


Yeah it's gone, SE ain't funding a big team for post-game content for a sales flop like this. Outside Spider-Man I wouldn't be surprised if this is it and maybe they'll try an Avengers 2 paid expansion with more heroes in a couple years.
Title: Re: SE Signs Deal That Will Waste Millions of Man Hours on Western Trash (SExMarvel)
Post by: Tasty on March 18, 2021, 02:40:50 PM
I just read a big op-ed about how Kate Bishop and The Kree were gonna be this game's savior lol
Title: Re: SE Signs Deal That Will Waste Millions of Man Hours on Western Trash (SExMarvel)
Post by: Bebpo on March 18, 2021, 02:48:35 PM
Some people are saying the wording of the press release makes it sound like it's gonna go F2P, I still doubt that would save it. They really fucked this one up.

Still, now that the next-gen version is out, looking forward to playing the Mrs. Marvel campaign.
Title: Re: SE Signs Deal That Will Waste Millions of Man Hours on Western Trash (SExMarvel)
Post by: Joe Molotov on March 18, 2021, 04:56:09 PM
https://twitter.com/PlayAvengers/status/1372639652666994688

:trumps
Title: Re: SE Signs Deal That Will Waste Millions of Man Hours on Western Trash (SExMarvel)
Post by: MMaRsu on March 19, 2021, 03:53:05 AM
Dunno why anyone even bought this mediocre shit

Dont reward mediocrity
Title: Re: SE Signs Deal That Will Waste Millions of Man Hours on Western Trash (SExMarvel)
Post by: Bebpo on March 19, 2021, 03:54:48 AM
Started playing this finally with the PS5 version. Got a few hours in.

Game looks...really good. Playing on the 60fps mode and the image quality is pristine. Looks like a legit next-gen title some of the time. I don't know how people lived with this at 30fps. I tried the 30fps mode and it felt like a really bad sluggish 30fps implementation.

The B-list Avengers surprisingly didn't bother me at all outside Black Widow's awful hair. The voices and the writing are pretty good and the character designs seem...fine? Coming from the comics it's kind of neat how this is pulling from a few different runs. Also trying to do a serious cinematic Modok origin story...well, I'll give them credit for that. Also interesting with the Inhumans stuff.

The Dual Sense is fantastic. Probably best use in a non-exclusive PS5 game. Really adds a lot of weight to hits as Cap (who actually felt good in the combat in the intro) and is solid for hits elsewhere and cutscene stuff.

As a brawler, it seems ok other than lacking hit impact, which is kind of a big deal. Also I hate the camera in this game but it's workable in combat arenas.

As a scripted scene platformer, exploration game though, yikes the camera is way too close and keeps fighting you constantly and the controls are really floaty and everything is scripted and it just feels incredibly awful to play.

Makes me wish the game was nothing but combat arenas and cutscenes. Though maybe just cutscenes would be even better :P

I'm enjoying the cutscenes/story stuff enough and it looks damn nice that I'm hooked and will blow through the campaign and the 2 DLC campaigns, but the gameplay does seem pretty shit. Like the Tomb Raider reboot games were really shallow too with scripted platforming but it worked as a cover shooter better. Idk, I don't like those games much either and they have the same floaty feeling.

Title: Re: SE Signs Deal That Will Waste Millions of Man Hours on Western Trash (SExMarvel)
Post by: Bebpo on March 19, 2021, 03:58:04 AM
They probably should've just hired Platinum Games to do all the gameplay in cooperation with Crystal Dynamics doing all the graphics & cutscenes and writing.
Title: Re: SE Signs Deal That Will Waste Millions of Man Hours on Western Trash (SExMarvel)
Post by: Bebpo on March 25, 2021, 02:25:53 AM
This Avengers game sure is weird. Got past the intro stuff and to the war table and "missions" and it's weird how it's like the story campaign but then it just suddenly ends at the end because MULTIPLAYER MISSION COMPLETE.

Also Ms. Marvel seems kinda shitty compared to the Hulk. And why are there base defense bits where you can barely move outside a small circle.

Weird game, feels like the whole campaign is going to be an extended tutorial. Mostly just enjoying the story. Feels like a Marvel TV show.

Also some of these missions are semi-open world areas...is there no map/radar at all?